[12:03] <Josephus> hey
[12:04] <daniels_> jdub: fwiw, wouldn't mind an xorg exemption from uvf, especially since we're already totally up-to-date on 6.8.x branch anyway
[12:06] <jdub> sivang: uvf doesn't affect gnome
[12:07] <jdub> daniels_: xorg is a feature goal, and packaged by us - just a matter of having upgrades confirmed, etc.
[12:07] <sivang> jdub: ah ok, so gnome freatures can be still added..ok
[12:07] <daniels_> jdub: cool
[12:08] <mako> ooh, titbread@hotmail wants 100600 ubuntu CDs
[12:08] <mako> *titbread*
[12:09] <sivang> mako: what with my mere 200 cds pack? will I ever get it? :)
[12:09] <mako> sivang: dude, i can't track individual orders.. you can order more if you'd like
[12:10] <sivang> mako: pitty is, I've checked with shipit and it says my shipment has already been sent. that mean the cds are lost..:(
[12:10] <Josephus> so titbread gets what he wants? :)
[12:10] <mako> or they will ge there
[12:10] <mako> Josephus: i *highly* doubt it
[12:10] <mako> Josephus: i just emailed him
[12:10] <Josephus> :))
[12:11] <Josephus> what was the largest order you processed?
[12:13] <mako> Josephus: like actually sent
[12:13] <mako> ?
[12:13] <Josephus> yes
[12:13] <mako> Josephus: 5000 to the shuttleworth foundation
[12:16] <mako> but we'll be sending 5000 to another group that is organizing huge events and want to promote ubuntu
[12:16] <mako> those are special cases though
[12:19] <mdz> gah
[12:19] <mdz> ubuntu-devel: "maybe some [X]  detection and autoconfiguration would be fine"
[12:20] <mdz> in the same message "please include the ipw2100 driver" :-)
[12:20] <Josephus> that'd be me
[12:24] <lamont> hehe - kernel-source-2.6.9 is ftbfs. :-)
[12:25] <mako> ok.. dinner time fo rme
[12:25] <mdz> lamont: we ought to remove it from the archive
[12:25] <lamont> mdz: but that violates the spirit of universe, no? :-)
[12:25] <Josephus> i know that autodetection stuff sounds lame, but i don't know how to phrase it...
[12:25] <mdz> lamont: yes, but in this case it's terribly confusing for users
[12:26] <Josephus> mdz: and yes, i was wrong about ipw2100
[12:26] <mdz> Josephus: you pretty much implied that we didn't do autoconfiguration of X, which is a bit disparaging toward the people who put a huge amount of time and effort into doing exactly that
[12:26] <ogra> Josephus: for 99% of the users the autodetection of X works out of the box ;)
[12:27] <lamont> mdz: we could create a 'stuff-we-dont-believe-in' suite that is just past the multiverse, and is source only.... :-)
[12:27] <sivang> Josephus: especially on crappy dell laptops :)
[12:27] <ogra> sivang: thats the missing percent ;)
[12:28] <mdz> Josephus: at any rate, I followed up with instructions for how you can help get it working on your hardware
[12:29] <sivang> ogra: we shoudl have a "ubuntu is rocking" site for good testimonials 
[12:29] <mdz> Josephus: but in the future, it generates more good will to look first, before saying that something is missing :-)
[12:32] <Josephus> sorry i didn't wanted to be sound like i despise your work, i just haven't looked into that such thing really exists :/
[12:33] <lamont> mdz: if we do, it should be kernel-patch* kernel-image-* and kernel-source-*
[12:34] <mdz> Josephus: if the probe fails, it asks you questions instead
[12:34] <mdz> Josephus: so in your case, it sounds like your hardware was probed successfully, but for some reason the resulting config wasn't correct
[12:34] <mdz> could be buggy hardware, or something else
[12:36] <ogra> mdz: do you think its ok to put a link in the java wiki page pointing to davyds java package ? (http://wiki.arslinux.com/Ubuntu#Java_1.5)
[12:37] <mdz> ogra: anything and everything having to do with Ubuntu is OK for the wiki
[12:37] <ogra> ok, i was fearing the legal stuff...then i'll do it now :)
[12:38] <sivang> ogra: very good package, gave it a test drive and the 3 steps remedy works quite well.
[12:38] <ogra> sivang: its just created by the java-package package for universe....but doesnt scare the users as much.... :)
[12:39] <ogra> multiverse, sorry
[12:42] <lamont> seb128 about?
[12:44] <mdz> he was a short time ago
[12:46] <lamont> mdz: did we ever file the FTBFS bug on baz?  I know they know about it, but figured I'd get it in the bts.
[12:46] <lamont> along with the rest of the 13 FTBFS's that I have hanging around.
[12:46] <lamont> 13 FTBFS, 7 of them ia64.
[12:46] <mdz> lamont: last I knew, baz was building
[12:47] <lamont> 1.0.1-2 has 64-bit issues
[12:47] <lamont> and is current hoary.
[12:47] <mdz> ok, yes, please file a bug
[12:47] <mdz> 1.0.1-1 was FTBFS everywhere, but that was fixed with -2
[12:47] <mdz> I wouldn't assume that they know; I think they all use i386 or powerpc
[12:50] <amu> Windowlike - random crashes http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=19198
[12:51] <amu> :-) 
[12:51] <ogra> lol
[12:51] <amu> "After starting this tool, it will go into daemon mode and starts to kill randomly random processes...This will give you real-windows-feeling!" 
[12:52] <ogra> amu: i got an additional imac here (additional to the grey g4), if you got anything to test (livecd wise) tell me :)
[12:53] <amu> ogra: cool! 
[12:54] <lamont> mdz: I know lifeless and I discussed it in mataro
[12:54] <mdz> ah
[12:54] <lamont> "fixed in 1.1, but we're not gonna upload that for a month"
[12:54] <sivang> lamont: hehe
[12:55] <mdz> lamont: it remains to be seen how baz and UVF will interact
[12:55] <mdz> probably depends largely on how 1.1 turns out when they've blessed it :-)
[12:56] <mdz> amu: what does it print the first time?
[12:56] <lamont> UVF?
[12:56] <sivang> upstream version freeze
[12:56] <mdz> lamont: upstream version freeze
[12:56] <lamont> ah, ok
[12:56] <sivang> :)
[12:57] <amu> mdz: /dev/cloop0 no such device
[12:58] <mdz> amu: /dev/cloop0 needs to exist before the script is run
[12:58] <mdz> amu: so probably you need to load cloop, and wait for it to be created by udev
[12:59] <amu> mdz: yeah i load it before calling the create_snapshot 
[12:59] <mdz> amu: and wait for it to be created by udev
[12:59] <mdz> it can take several seconds
[01:00] <amu> hmm atm i put a sleep 3 before loading it .. 
[01:01] <mdz> while sleep 1; do if test -b /dev/cloop0; then break; fi; done
[01:01] <amu> hehe, thx 
[01:02] <mdz> amu: we need a name for the new live stuff
[01:03] <amu> liveCD NG :) 
[01:03] <mdz> it should not be specific to the type of media, or to Ubuntu
[01:03] <ogra> hmm, regarding all the illnes in mataro, flubuntu ?
[01:06] <amu> mdz: Ubunt{u}nix *ducks* 
[01:16] <lamont> the lack of lock-stepping in udev is quite annoying sometimes...
[01:19] <calc> sounds like gpdf might be useful enough to get rid of xpdf by hoary release
[01:20] <amu> mdz: oh my god, with qemu it needs 6sec. before coop was C[C[Cup :( 
[01:22] <Riddell> calc: kpdf experimental branch is fantastic
[01:24] <amu> lamont: any reason why kde-18n didnt reached archive? 
[01:25] <mdz> calc: cool
[01:26] <lamont> amu: ISTR it was new.
[01:27] <amu> lamont: yep :)  
[01:28] <calc> mdz: did you see the blog entry about redhat's hacking of gpdf?
[01:28] <mdz> calc: no
[01:29] <calc> http://webwynk.net/jrb/#1103781637
[01:29] <calc> hopefully they can get that into shape soon
[01:29] <mdz> speaking of qemu, does qemu-fast work for anyone?
[01:29] <mdz> it hasn't worked for me on any hardware I've tried
[01:30] <lamont> amu: almost certain
[01:30] <mdz> zsh: illegal hardware instruction  qemu-fast [...] 
[01:30] <lamont> so that'd be an elmo thing
[01:32] <sivang> mdz: I think it's still in _heavy_ development..
[01:32] <amu> lamont: okido, thx, was surprised why orig.tar.gz is in, buildlog say all ok, but deb's are missing.
[01:33] <sivang> mdz: I just can't wait for this to get stable :)
[01:35] <lamont> amu: fwiw, new uploads that wind up in new will get wedged in 'Uploaded' instead of 'Building'
[01:41] <mdz> calc: that sounds like they are writing a replacement for gpdf, rather than working on gpdf
[01:54] <lamont> mdz: bz #4530 - should we leave that open until it's actually fixed in hoary, or let it remain resolved?
[01:54] <lamont> (because it's not...)
[02:04] <calc> mdz: hmm yea
[02:32] <lamont> ah, this week.  right.
[02:36] <ogra> i love our users: <winipegm> sumthing in the thing wasnt enabled
[02:59] <mdz> lamont: we didn't, and that's why they're both still in universe
[03:03] <lamont> ah, ok
[03:04] <lamont> or rather, what that obviously-present option would be.
[03:04] <lamont> alternatively, I guess I could start signing my archive.
[03:05] <mdz> lamont: yes, there is, it's in the man page, and yes, you should start signing your archive
[03:06] <lamont> mdz: yeah
[03:06] <lamont> it's on the list, but not quite above the cutline yet.
[03:07] <lamont> it's right after getting apt-ftparchive generate happy, and such/.
[03:07] <mdz> apt-ftparchive generate needs support for Release files, too
[03:07] <mdz> I'd very much welcome a patch for that
[03:07] <lamont> I thought it creates those...
[03:08] <lamont> ah, that's apt-ftparchive release
[03:08] <lamont> heh
[03:08] <mdz> right
[03:08] <mdz> generate is supposed to let you do everything with a config file, but it doesn't do Release yet
[03:09] <mdz> primarily because I don't use generate
[03:09] <lamont> ok.  once I figure out generate enough, I'll work on a generate/release patch
[03:25] <lamont> but actually, I think I should probably work on postfix soon, maybe even this week...
[03:25] <jdub> mdz: yes, evince uses code from all the gnome viewers and replaces them
[03:26] <jdub> mdz: it's the amalgamated 'Preview'-like viewer than martink was going to work on, but done by different people
[03:26] <jdub> (gar, over-the-cude development, gar)
[03:26] <jdub> s/cude/cube/
[04:05] <lamont> jdub: I thought I was the only one with the  crap connection
[04:05] <jdub> lamont: at pipka's parent's house
[04:05] <lamont> ah, ok
[04:05] <lamont> hi pipka
[04:07] <edomat> lamont: nop, you should come to argentina, most people use dial-up still and i'm fortunately to share a 256 kb dsl connection with my roommate
[04:08] <edomat> i'm in the process of making a ubuntu repository at my university
[04:10] <jdub> edomat: rock!
[04:11] <lamont> edomat: I live at the end of an 802.11 link that is 28km long, rate shaped to 256kbps
[04:11] <edomat> well, come whenever you want, i think that there's space at home :D
[04:11] <lamont> and any time I use > 56kbps agregate over a 5 minute period, it costs me.
[04:11] <lamont> well, the first 3.2GB is free.  after that it hurts.
[04:11] <edomat> wow... i see
[04:12] <lamont> edomat: the really tragic thing is that I live ~300 meters beyond the limit for the local DSL RT.
[04:12] <edomat> lamont: ops
[04:17] <calc> lamont: setup a wifi connection
[04:18] <jdub> later dudes
[04:18] <edomat> bye dudes
[04:18] <mdz> calc: er, that's what he's done
[04:18] <lamont> calc: that's what I'm using... sadly, the topography isn't very conducive to a local link in the right direction
[04:19] <calc> lamont: oh :\
[04:19] <calc> mdz: i meant to someone that has dsl ;)
[04:27] <lamont> calc: yeah.
[05:16] <edomat> well, i have to reboot my ubuntu to see if my new linux-restricted-modules-2.6.9 package works with the 6111 nvidia driver for my tnt2 card :P
[05:16] <edomat> i was the one of the mail :)
[05:26] <lamont> fabbione: you around?
[06:18] <fabbione> morning
[06:19] <fabbione> lamont: now :-)
[07:44] <fabbione> mjg59: ping
[07:45] <mjg59> fabbione: Yo
[07:45] <fabbione> yo
[07:45] <fabbione> ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/lenb/acpi/patches/release/2.6.10/acpi-20041210-2.6.10-rc3.diff.gz
[07:45] <fabbione> any good?
[07:46] <fabbione> i am preparing 2.6.10 and i heard rumors that aCPI is crack
[07:46] <fabbione> and that patch fixes the shit
[07:46] <mjg59> Primary acpi crackness in 2.6.10 is the alsa brokenness, which ought to be fixed in -final
[07:46] <mjg59> Len posted an acpi patch for -final yesterday, though. There's at least a couple of hunks we want from it
[07:47] <fabbione> there is .10 final already.. that's what i am working on
[07:47] <mjg59> Probably safe to go with the entire thing, though
[07:47] <fabbione> yeah that's the one i am talking about
[07:47] <fabbione> ok
[07:47] <fabbione> since 2.6.10 isn't default kernel we can pull all of it in
[07:48] <mjg59> There's another patch we want, which I can push to you later on
[07:49] <fabbione> mjg59: if you have it handy i would much rather like to have it now
[07:49] <fabbione> i am going to flush the queue of patches today and fix the configs
[07:49] <fabbione> so that i might be able to upload at the end of the day
[07:50] <mjg59> Ok, give me a second
[07:50] <mjg59> (Need to go and catch a plane in 5 minutes or so :) )
[07:51] <fabbione> mjg59: ah ok.. don't worry than
[07:51] <fabbione> if it doesn't require CONFIG_ changes i can push it in the last minute
[07:51] <mjg59> Yeah, no CONFIG_ changes
[07:52] <fabbione> ok.. go catch the plane
[07:54] <mjg59> http://www.codon.org.uk/~mjg59/tmp/resume-finish-split.patch
[07:54] <mjg59> Fixes PCI resume on various machines
[07:55] <zeratha> I tried to ask on the #ubuntu channel, but got no reply, so I'm sorry to bother you all. I just did an upgrade and now the sound won't work. It can't seem to find the mixer or sound device. Can someone help please.
[09:34] <abelli> smurfix: ping
[09:41] <smurfix> abelli: 
[09:50] <Treenaks> smurfix: wide unicode character, not available in "fixed"?
[09:55] <smurfix> It's Chinese. "pong". As in "ping pong". 
[09:55] <Treenaks> ah
[09:56] <smurfix> Now I need to find a font with U#2323 in it...
[09:56] <smurfix> U#x2323 even (smiley)
[09:56] <Treenaks> fixed has that one :)
[09:58] <Treenaks> smurfix: because it's an "old style" X font (in xterm)
[09:58] <Treenaks> smurfix: not one of the new ones
[10:10] <fabbione> not TOO bad...
[10:10] <fabbione> 2.6.10 FTBFS on 5 arches over 5
[10:10] <Treenaks> nice
[10:10] <fabbione> BINGO!
[10:11] <Treenaks> fabbione: sounds like you're going to have a nice day ;)
[10:11] <fabbione> hell yeah
[10:11] <fabbione> they all fail in different ways
[10:31] <olivier> Greetings. I tried to get vanilla woody debian on my hoary to compile a .deb on it (via pbuilder that use debootstrap) and debootstrap failed complaining about mounting /sys in the chroot. AFAIK, /sys is in Ubuntu/* and not in Woody. I had to get get an Unstable(from Debian rather Ubuntu) debootstrap to generate my chroot env. Should the Ubuntu version of debootstrap have Ubuntu suite (like hoary) in addition of Debian suite (woody, etc.) and han
[11:55] <maswan> olivier: /sys is a 2.6 thingie, IIRC. and woody is ancient enough to not mix well with 2.6 kernels.
[12:04] <olivier> maswan: ok, thanks for the answer
[01:13] <fabbione> Kamion: ping
[01:39] <smurfix> fabbione: ppc, or Mac?
[01:39] <fabbione> smurfix: it doesn't really matter
[01:40] <fabbione> something that uses a _powerpc.deb
[01:40] <fabbione> would do...
[01:40] <mjg59> fabbione: Did that patch apply ok?
[01:40] <fabbione> mjg59: yup
[01:40] <mjg59> Rocking
[01:40] <fabbione> compiled already
[01:41] <fabbione> mjg59: i might upload today if i can at least fix the FTBFS on ppc
[01:41] <fabbione> ia64 can die a slow death
[01:41] <smurfix> fabbione: unfortunately, right now I don't have a ppc box here, so ...
[01:41] <fabbione> all the others are GO
[01:41] <fabbione> smurfix: thanks anyway
[01:41] <mjg59> fabbione: Ha
[01:41] <mjg59> fabbione: Oh, damn. I meant to ask about a CONFIG change
[01:41] <mjg59> No problem if it's too late, though
[01:42] <fabbione> mjg59: such as?
[01:42] <fabbione> i am still in time to change configs around
[01:42] <mjg59> The one that makes USB have power management support
[01:42] <mjg59> With big EXPERIMENTAL flags
[01:43] <fabbione> that also reminds me that i forgot to add the reiserfs love...
[01:43] <fabbione> mjg59: hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[01:43] <fabbione> what the heck.. it's a new kernel
[01:43] <fabbione> LET'S BRAKE IT TO HELL!!!!!!!!1
[01:43] <mjg59> I guess you've thrown in the intelfb, ACPI video and ibm-acpi stuff?
[01:43] <fabbione> they are already on iirc
[01:44] <mjg59> Yeah, I think they default to M
[01:44] <fabbione> 386:CONFIG_ACPI_VIDEO=m
[01:44] <mjg59> Excellent
[01:44] <fabbione> k7-smp:CONFIG_ACPI_IBM=m
[01:44] <mjg59> It doesn't work on a single machine I've tried it on, but still
[01:44] <mjg59> It's kind of neat
[01:45] <fabbione> k7-smp:CONFIG_FB_INTEL=m
[01:45] <fabbione> do i miss something?
[01:45] <mjg59> fabbione: Nope, that's it
[01:45] <fabbione> this kernel will break the shit
[01:45] <fabbione> i am sure
[01:45] <mjg59> Hrm. Some time, I should send you the Panasonic ACPI stuff
[01:46] <fabbione> mjg59: you are in good time if you want :-)
[01:47] <mjg59> http://www.da-cha.org/letsnote/
[01:48] <fabbione> Treenaks: i still stick with my blog
[01:48] <Treenaks> fabbione: you have a blog?
[01:48] <fabbione> Treenaks: yes.. i need to get it hooked up to planet.*
[01:49] <Treenaks> ah :)
[01:49] <fabbione> and i am not even sure how the rss feed works...
[01:49] <fabbione> someone will have to check it for me
[01:49] <Treenaks> url? :)
[01:49] <fabbione> http://www.fabbione.net/cgi-bin/blog.cgi
[01:50] <fabbione> started like... 2 entries ago
[01:50] <Treenaks> fabbione: ah, sounds great already :)
[01:51] <fabbione> "AND DIE.... AND DIE A LITTLE MOREEEEE"
[01:51] <Treenaks> so I had to alt+sysrq+SSSSUUUB
[01:51] <fabbione> Treenaks: eh?
[01:51] <fabbione> enter in ipv4...
[01:52] <Treenaks> fabbione: no that's the trick.. 
[01:52] <fabbione> a tunnel down... doesn't take the machine to that state
[01:52] <Treenaks> fabbione: I upgraded to 2.6.10, and did a 'shutdown -r now'
[01:52] <fabbione> ah clever
[01:52] <fabbione> i don't understand why people keep using shutdown directly
[01:52] <fabbione> there are:
[01:52] <fabbione> reboot
[01:52] <Treenaks> fabbione: but it refused to bring down my ipv6 tunnel ("use_count 1" or something?)
[01:52] <fabbione> poweroff
[01:53] <fabbione> halt
[01:53] <Treenaks> fabbione: try those on an AIX machine
[01:53] <Treenaks> fabbione: or even Solaris I think
[01:53] <fabbione> ehhehe
[01:53] <fabbione> but damn.. it's linux :-)
[01:53] <fabbione> or make the aliases
[01:53] <mjg59> fabbione: We should sort you out with more recent ipw2100 drivers and stuff at some point too, really
[01:53] <Treenaks> fabbione: but anyway -- all network interfaces, daemons etc. were down.. except for my sixxs.net tunnel
[01:54] <Treenaks> fabbione: so it wouldn't reboot
[01:54] <fabbione> mjg59: done already
[01:54] <Treenaks> fabbione: so I had to GO THERE AND DO IT MYSELF.
[01:54] <mjg59> fabbione: Dude, you rock
[01:54] <Treenaks> ON CHRISTMAS DAY.
[01:54] <fabbione> Treenaks: ehehe
[01:54] <fabbione> mjg59: http://people.ubuntulinux.org/~fabbione/external-drivers
[01:54] <fabbione> that's the update i am taking in with 2.6.10
[01:55] <Treenaks> new atmel firmware?
[01:55] <fabbione> mjg59: except for the fact that i smoke and that brings up your humor to a level close to -10000
[01:55] <Treenaks> wow..
[01:55] <fabbione> ;)
[01:56] <fabbione> mjg59: i added that file to the kernel source package...
[01:56] <fabbione> so that i don't have to get amazingly stupid again to track the hell out of the kernel
[01:57] <mjg59> fabbione: The Panasonic one?
[01:57] <fabbione> mjg59: can you just tell me which patches to apply out of that mess?
[01:57] <fabbione> Driver package
[01:57] <fabbione>     * kernel 2.6.x series : pcc-acpi-0.8.2.tar.gz
[01:57] <fabbione> and ?
[01:57] <mjg59> Yeah
[01:57] <mjg59> That should be it
[01:57] <fabbione> anything else?
[01:57] <mjg59> The rest is userspace
[01:57] <fabbione> hotkey drivers
[01:57] <fabbione>     * Kernel 2.6.8.1: pcc-acpi-0.8.1.all.patch
[01:57] <fabbione> ?
[01:58] <mjg59> Wargh.
[01:58] <mjg59> Hang on a second.
[01:58] <fabbione> ok
[01:59] <mjg59> fabbione: Ok, it's the pcc-acpi-0.8.1.all.patch one you need. But looking at it, I'm not sure it'll apply cleanly
[02:00] <mjg59> There's going to be fuzz in the Kconfig and Makefiles
[02:00] <fabbione> fuzz is not an issue :-)
[02:02] <mjg59> The driver itself should be fine, it's just that the surrounding stuff in the configs is going to have been changed by ibm-acpi being added
[02:02] <fabbione> that's not an issue :-)
[02:05] <Treenaks> fabbione: how about http://hem.bredband.net/ekmlar/vt1211.html (the patch has some makefile rejects, but easy to solve)
[02:05] <Treenaks> fabbione: or should I mail upstream about that, too
[02:06] <mjg59> fabbione: Hm. I have a sony_acpi driver, too
[02:06] <fabbione> Treenaks: mail upstream please
[02:06] <fabbione> mjg59: ok.. let's queue up the 2 patches (panasonic and sony) for -2
[02:07] <fabbione> and you can give me directly the dpatches that way :)
[02:07] <mjg59> Sure, no problem
[02:08] <fabbione> ok.. amd64, sparc64 and i386 look good
[02:09] <fabbione> actually...
[02:09] <fabbione> it's useless to upload
[02:09] <fabbione> nobody can process NEW atm...
[02:09] <mjg59> Bwahahaha
[02:10] <Treenaks> they should have mailed their private key before they left then
[02:10] <fabbione> Treenaks: nah that's thom...
[02:10] <mjg59> If you throw up a source package somewhere, I can do dpatches for the laptop stuff
[02:10] <fabbione> how process the queue is elmo :-)
[02:10] <fabbione> mjg59: sure...
[02:11] <fabbione> my home dir on people
[02:11] <fabbione> remember that the pkgs are not final.. so i don't suggest to install them yet
[02:13] <mjg59> Haha
[02:17] <fabbione> mjg59: the warning wasn't for you
[02:17] <fabbione> but for all the punks in here that grabs all the url that people past
[02:17] <fabbione> paste
[02:47] <fabbione> 275 lines of changelog.. and growing
[02:51] <mjg59> fabbione: http://www.codon.org.uk/~mjg59/tmp/panasonic_acpi.dpatch and sony_acpi.dpatch
[02:51] <mjg59> panasonic_acpi needs to be applied first
[02:51] <mjg59> Both need to be enabled in the config
[02:55] <fabbione>   * ATTENTION/WARNING/SOS/IF YOU OPEN A BUG ON THIS YOU WILL BURN ALIVE:
[02:55] <fabbione>     ->>>>>> Disable emu10k1 build on ppc because it is broken <<<<<<-
[02:55] <fabbione> do you think they will read it?
[02:55] <Treenaks> no
[02:56] <ogra> fabbione: will read what ? 
[02:56] <ogra> ;)
[02:58] <Lathiat> haha
[02:59] <fabbione> mjg59: they are only for i386 and amd64?
[03:02] <mjg59> fabbione: Probably only i386, actually
[03:02] <fabbione> mjg59: well.. the kernel is clever enough not to build if x86 isn't defined (hopefully)
[03:30] <fabbione> drivers/acpi/pcc_acpi.c:92:26: seq_template.h: No such file or directory
[03:30] <fabbione> mjg59: ^^^
[03:32] <mjg59> Arse.
[03:33] <fabbione> (bte x86 is defined also on amd64)
[03:33] <mjg59> fabbione: http://www.codon.org.uk/~mjg59/tmp/seq_template.h
[03:33] <mjg59> Are you able to just smash that on the end of the patch?
[03:34] <fabbione> sure...
[03:35] <fabbione> in what dir should be added?
[03:35] <mjg59> drivers/acpi
[03:36] <fabbione> oky
[03:37] <fabbione> linux-source-2.6.10-2.6.10/drivers/acpi/seq_template.h
[03:37] <fabbione> there :-)
[03:43] <sivang> mjg59: hello
[03:45] <fabbione> i wonder if that rumor i heard a long time ago about a katie bug is true or not....
[03:45] <fabbione> that would make me bypass the NEW queue in one shot ;)
[03:48] <fabbione> mjg59: the 2 modules compile without any problem (amd64 and i386)
[03:48] <fabbione> i still need to check ia64 given that i fix the other FTBFS
[03:49] <fabbione>   LD      .tmp_vmlinux1
[03:49] <fabbione> arch/ia64/sn/built-in.o(.text+0x2102): In function `sn_set_affinity_irq':
[03:49] <fabbione> : undefined reference to `set_irq_affinity_info'
[03:49] <fabbione> make[2] : *** [.tmp_vmlinux1]  Error 1
[03:49] <fabbione> do you have any idea on how to fix it?
[03:50] <fabbione> i know for sure that set_irq_affinity_info exists in arch/ia64/kernel/irq.c that is compiled....
[03:50] <fabbione> so i am a bit puzzled
[03:52] <fabbione> AHHHHHHHHHHH
[03:55] <fabbione> IT'S A PIECE OF DEAD CODE!
[03:55] <fabbione> GROOOAAARRRRRR
[04:07] <mako> ciao fabbione
[04:08] <fabbione> ciao mako
[04:09] <fabbione> what's up man?
[04:09] <mako> hopefuly, they just fixed the heat in my apartment.. it's *cold*.. but i'm ok
[04:09] <mako> fabbione: you working this week?
[04:10] <fabbione> mako: yup
[04:10] <fabbione> i don't have any holidays left until feb
[04:12] <mako> i'm (a) hopelessly behind  ina  few thigns after the conf and (b) wanting to conserve holidays :)
[04:13] <fabbione> mako: well i need to preserve holidays for the honeymoon
[04:13] <fabbione> but i will laugh in feb.
[04:13] <fabbione> when i will be at the galapagos...
[04:16] <mako> wow, that's far away
[04:16] <fabbione> yup :)
[04:16] <fabbione> i will be flying via madrid -> quito (ecuador)
[04:17] <fabbione> 10 days on a boat
[04:17] <fabbione> it's going to be cool
[04:22] <mako> sealions are *so* cute
[04:25] <fabbione> ehhe yeah
[04:26] <sivang> fabbione: they are also very powerful
[04:26] <fabbione> yes i know
[04:26] <fabbione> i am not going there to fight with them :-)
[04:27] <fabbione> and they are pretty social if not disturbed
[04:27] <fabbione> they usually come there alone...
[04:27] <fabbione> etting up libgtk2.0-bin (2.6.0-0ubuntu1) ...
[04:27] <fabbione> Updating the IM modules list for GTK+-2.4.0...done.
[04:27] <fabbione> Updating the gdk-pixbuf loaders list for GTK+-2.4.0...done.
[04:27] <fabbione> Failed to write cache file: No such file or directory
[04:27] <fabbione> dpkg: error processing libgtk2.0-bin (--configure):
[04:27] <fabbione> interesting...
[04:30] <mvo> is elmo the only one who can sync packages?
[04:30] <fabbione> mvo: yes
[04:30] <mvo> :/
[04:31] <fabbione> when i did ask for a backup i was told that there was no need 
[04:31] <fabbione> so....
[04:31] <mvo> ok
[04:31] <mvo> thanks
[04:31] <fabbione> anyway
[04:31] <fabbione> i am off
[04:31] <fabbione> 10 hours of kernel are way too many
[04:31] <mvo> byebye
[04:31] <mvo> :)
[05:22] <sivang> mjg59: ping
[05:30] <mjg59> sivang: Hi
[05:31] <sivang> mjg59: hey again, returning to you on our last convo, I cannot find not script by the name of sleep.sh under /etc/acpi.
[05:31] <sivang> mjg59: would like very much to try and achive suspend on this machine :)
[05:33] <mjg59> sivang: Uh. Can you dpkg -L acpi-support ?
[05:34] <zul> can someone have  a look at 5052 pls in bugzilla thx
[05:34] <sivang> mjg59: and when we're past that, I would love to give the hibernate option a try :)
[05:37] <mjg59> sivang: By the sounds of it, you don't have acpi-support installed properly
[05:38] <sivang> mjg59: ok, I got a list of files that acpi-support has probably insitalled.
[05:40] <mjg59> sivang: Does that include /etc/acpi/sleep.sh?
[05:46] <sivang> mjg59: it seems that it's not htere
[05:46] <mjg59> sivang: What version of acpi-support do you have installed?
[05:47] <sivang> mjg59: 0.9
[05:47] <mjg59> sivang: Is that the entire version string?
[05:50] <sivang> mjg59: this is what dpkg -l scpi-support tells...
[05:50] <mjg59> sivang: Make sure that you have the acpi-support package from http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~mjg59/laptops/ installed
[05:51] <sivang> mjg59: ok, I am installing the one tagged 12th Dec.
[05:52] <sivang> mjg59:  trying to overwrite `/etc/acpi/events/powerbtn', which is also in package acpid
[05:52] <sivang> mjg59: rmeove acpid?
[05:53] <mjg59> Overwrite it
[05:53] <sivang> mjg59: ok
[05:55] <sivang> mjg59: how can I tell it to overwrite it?
[05:55] <sivang> mjg59: -f ?
[05:56] <mjg59> --force-overwrite
[05:57] <sivang> mjg59: ok, i have a bunch of failing dependencies..I'll install them now.
[05:57] <sivang> mjg59: dpms and freinds..
[05:58] <sladen> sivang: do you have mjg59's archive in your /etc/apt/sources.list?
[05:58] <sivang> sladen: #deb http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~mjg59/laptops/ ./
[05:58] <sivang> sladen: ?
[05:58] <sivang> sladen: I will now :)
[05:58] <sladen> sivang: think so
[05:58] <sladen> sivang: remove the '#' comment from the front
[05:58] <sivang> sladen: :) thanks
[06:00] <sivang> mjg59: all installed
[06:00] <sivang> mjg59: :) now try /etc/acpi/sleep.sh ?
[06:02] <mjg59> sivang: Yes
[06:06] <sivang> mjg59: ok, it _did_ suspend, but when I opened the lid (how do I wake him up otherwise?) it only show the cursor at first, and then it also disappeared and nothing happend.
[06:06] <sivang> mjg59: but it suspended very nicely and quickly! :)
[06:08] <sivang> mjg59: I have both my / and /home under LVM in this machine, could it cause problems for the sleep script?
[06:17] <mjg59> It shouldn't
[06:19] <sivang> mjg59: shouldn't ?
[06:20] <sivang> mjg59: ah ok, LVM shouldn't cause in problem. k
[06:45] <Josephus> mine does not resume either
[06:45] <Josephus> but i think it's a framebuffer or nvidia issue
[06:51] <mdz> mjg59: any reason not to upload that stuff to hoary?
[06:52] <mjg59> mdz: I need to finish combining the tools into one app
[06:52] <mjg59> Should be done by the end of the week
[07:18] <sivang> Josephus: I also have nvidia on that machine.
[07:44] <Josephus> sivang: what about framebuffer?
[07:45] <sivang> Josephus: you mean if I am using it?
[07:46] <Josephus> yes
[08:28] <sivang> Josephus: I enabled it in my Xorg setup
[08:38] <Josephus> well for me it's console framebuffer (+gensplash) and i guess that's why resume is not working
[09:50] <Riddell> is there any way of finding out if a package has been accepted or rejected given that my e-mail address probably isn't on the whitelist yet
[09:52] <amu> if you upload now something, it's just beeing deleted 
[09:54] <Riddell> how can we get it so that it won't just be deleted?
[09:56] <amu> Riddell: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/NewDevelopersAndMaintainers
[10:01] <amu> Riddell: If you would like to become an Ubuntu maintainer, please add your name here. http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/MaintainerCandidates/
[10:06] <ogra> Riddell: yeah, join us !!
[10:12] <sivang> Riddell: after you work a bit with a mentor if you need one, you can be considered to be a maintainer and possibly voted to be such by the technical board
[10:15] <ogra> sivang: first he must become a ubuntite ;)
[10:16] <sivang> ogra: right, so that means to first be considered by the community council.
[10:16] <ogra> sivang: nope, ubuntites are self nominated...(you and i are)
[10:17] <ogra> sivang: next step is member.....
[10:17] <sivang> ogra: Are you sure? I was approved by the last CC meeting :)
[10:17] <sivang> so guess I am a memebr now :)
[10:17] <ogra> sivang: then developer iirc and then maintainer
[10:17] <ogra> sivang: oh, when was it ? in mataro ?
[10:18] <sivang> ogra: last tuesday
[10:18] <sivang> btw, did we have a tb meeting today?
[10:19] <abelli> sivang: wasn't that for country teams?
[10:20] <ogra> huh, i thought next meeting is in jan ....
[10:20] <amu> sivang: 4.1. 16.00 
[10:21] <ogra> amu: ah, thanks.... thats what i thought
[10:21] <abelli> ogra: yes..
[10:21] <amu> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/TechnicalBoardAgenda
[10:21] <abelli> amu: how is the 2nd gen live-cd
[10:22] <amu> abelli: nice, i fight with the mouse atm :) 
[10:22] <sivang> amu: hehe
[10:30] <sid77> hi
[11:24] <teuf> hi
[11:28] <Riddell> is there a way to find out which package has a certain file?  (specificly X11/extensions/xf86vmode.h )
[11:30] <smurfix> Riddell: dpkg -S
[11:31] <Riddell> smurfix: I don't have the file installed, that's why I want to find out which package provides it
[11:31] <smurfix> ah. In that case, install apt-file
[11:31] <smurfix> apt-file update; apt-file search NAME
[11:32] <smurfix> In other words, xlibs-dev
[11:38] <Riddell> smurfix: great, thanks
[11:44] <Riddell> hmm, it lies, it says that file is in xlibs-static-dev but it's not
[11:45] <smurfix> That usually means that the archive people haven't rebuilt the contents files recently
[11:45] <sladen> Riddell: the long awaited packages.ubuntulinux.org
[11:46] <Riddell> sladen: ...isn't much use at the moment :(
[11:55] <sivang> sladen: I havn't heared anything about it, has there been planning about p.u.o ?