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| Riddell | oh fooey, now I can't find libXxf86vm_pic.a | 12:06 |
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| amu | libxxf86vm1 ? | 12:12 |
| daniels | Riddell: that's because it doesn't exist | 12:12 |
| daniels | Riddell: link with -lXxf86vm and get the shared library, not -lXxf86vm_pic, which was a hack to work around the fact it was only shipped static | 12:13 |
| Riddell | daniels: right, thanks | 12:22 |
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| ogra | guys i want to file a bug against fstab, is base-files the right package ? | 12:42 |
| sivang | ogra: what is the bug? :) | 12:44 |
| Riddell | ogra: it's not a base-file, it's contents are probably created by debian-installer | 12:45 |
| ogra | sivang: floppy uses auto as filesystem.....what makes it impossible to mount vfat floppies through nautilus....havent tested ext2 but i suspect the same there | 12:45 |
| sivang | ogra: eh | 12:46 |
| ogra | Riddell: that would be base-config then i thin | 12:46 |
| ogra | k | 12:46 |
| ogra | sivang: you can mount them via -t vfat though.... but not in anutilus | 12:46 |
| ogra | nautilus | 12:46 |
| sivang | ogra: I think iv'e seen soemthing similar with ntfs.. | 12:49 |
| ogra | sivang: ntfs floppies ? | 12:50 |
| ogra | 5060 filed :) | 12:51 |
| Kamion | fstab is spat out by various bits of partman. | 01:00 |
| Kamion | not base-config; that runs after the reboot and therefore after fstab is used | 01:01 |
| ogra | argh... i was to fast... sorry | 01:01 |
| mdz | also, 'auto' is the correct value | 01:01 |
| ogra | so next time i know...partman | 01:01 |
| Kamion | I agree, and was about to say that in the bug | 01:01 |
| ogra | bu tit doesnt work | 01:02 |
| mdz | it works for me, so the problem must lie elsewhere | 01:02 |
| mdz | I have seen that behaviour before, though | 01:02 |
| ogra | it works on none of my machines.... | 01:02 |
| daniels | mdz: btw, per your XorgAutoDetection mail, I think there's a regression in that I can't find the way to actually force re-xresprobe'ing. other than that, should just be s/foo/bar/. | 01:02 |
| ogra | and not on the lots of users machines i have supported until today..... | 01:02 |
| daniels | mdz: will sort it on monday | 01:03 |
| Kamion | ogra: auto is also the ideal value, so I'd rather see whatever bug it is that makes it not work be fixed | 01:03 |
| ogra | Kamion: either way will be ok, but its a common bug in #ubuntu just ask in the cannel, you will get multiple response :) | 01:04 |
| Kamion | I'm sure | 01:04 |
| Kamion | I have a policy of not being pressured by that sort of thing though | 01:04 |
| Kamion | in order to keep myself sane | 01:05 |
| ogra | but if you think its located anywhere else i will try to track it... :) | 01:05 |
| mdz | daniels: thanks | 01:06 |
| daniels | mdz: no worries | 01:06 |
| Kamion | it is not, fundamentally, an installer bug. A change there would only be a workaround. My best guess would be either mount itself or the kernel. | 01:06 |
| mdz | ogra: I just installed a fresh Warty system a couple of days ago, and it worked there | 01:06 |
| ogra | yep, i thought of the floppy module.... | 01:07 |
| mdz | I believe 'auto' is passed straight through to the kernel | 01:07 |
| Kamion | might start with util-linux/mount/mount.c:guess_fstype_and_mount() | 01:07 |
| ogra | mdz: i will try to find it..... | 01:07 |
| Kamion | and for that matter mount_guess_fstype.c | 01:08 |
| ogra | ok | 01:08 |
| ogra | :) | 01:08 |
| daniels | getting images of disks which are vfat but not detected as such online would doubtless be helpful | 01:08 |
| Kamion | if you have trouble, please take a sample floppy and dd the whole thing | 01:08 |
| Kamion | ... what daniels said :) | 01:08 |
| Kamion | I'm certainly willing to look at such an image | 01:09 |
| ogra | ok i will follow up in the bug then :) | 01:10 |
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| lamont | moo | 01:30 |
| Kamion | mdz: yeah, I'd go with base for ubuntu-keyring. Anything particular blocking that? | 01:34 |
| mdz | Kamion: not to my knowledge | 01:34 |
| Kamion | (noticed you added it to supported last week) | 01:34 |
| mdz | it will depend on gnupg, which is already in base | 01:34 |
| Kamion | ok, I'll do it then | 01:34 |
| mdz | as long as you're there, we should be able to remove libpcap0.7 | 01:34 |
| Kamion | oh yes, can I add silo to base for sparc? seems obviously correct | 01:34 |
| mdz | I uploaded a ppp which builds with libpcap0.8 | 01:35 |
| mdz | thumbs up for silo/sparc | 01:35 |
| Kamion | (ubuntu-keyring's under "Not quite ready for the default install yet", guess that's just transitional) | 01:36 |
| Kamion | lamont: should I add python-minimal and python2.4-minimal to hoary.buildd, since they'll be becoming essential? | 01:38 |
| mdz | Kamion: yeah, I just didn't want to add it to base until we had talked about it | 01:39 |
| mdz | but it certainly should have gone into main | 01:39 |
| mdz | of course, it ended up in universe anyway | 01:39 |
| mdz | I imagine that'll cause problems for debootstrap | 01:39 |
| Kamion | nah, my update script will ignore it until it's in main | 01:39 |
| Kamion | (or restricted) | 01:39 |
| lamont | Kamion: certainly | 01:39 |
| Kamion | well, moved it to base anyway :) | 01:40 |
| lamont | .buildd == essential + build-essential | 01:40 |
| Kamion | lamont: I like to ask you before touching .buildd :) | 01:40 |
| lamont | Kamion: I'd rather it just kept working.. :-) thanks though. | 01:40 |
| Kamion | mdz: I'll skip the debootstrap upload until ubuntu-keyring's in main then, removing libpcap0.7 shouldn't be urgent | 01:41 |
| lamont | mdz: UVF is today, or when? | 01:44 |
| Kamion | lamont: see ubuntu-devel@ | 01:45 |
| lamont | doh | 01:45 |
| lamont | kewl. I can work on postfix in debian this week then. :-0 | 01:45 |
| Kamion | wow, svn 1.1 and the fsfs repository type totally wipe the floor with svn 1.0 and bdb | 01:47 |
| Kamion | mdz: what should be responsible for adding the Ubuntu archive key to apt-key? Is that an installer job? | 01:49 |
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| mdz | Kamion: ubuntu-keyring should do that when it's configured | 02:02 |
| mdz | that's the plan anyway | 02:02 |
| lamont | mdz: btw, glibc -20 builds on ia64 finally | 02:03 |
| mdz | yay | 02:04 |
| Kamion | mdz: good-oh, less work for me | 02:08 |
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| lamont | hrm... is python2.4 backwards compatible enough that I can just s/2.3/2.4/, or should I explicily build-dep on python2.3... | 02:26 |
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| mdz | lamont: context? | 02:28 |
| lamont | ispell-lt Build-Depends: python, and hardcodes python2.3 in it's scripts | 02:28 |
| lamont | 5061 | 02:28 |
| mdz | ewww | 02:28 |
| mdz | s/python2.3/python/g | 02:28 |
| lamont | I bet it works just fine to build-dep python (>=2.3) and use 'python' | 02:29 |
| mdz | and build-depend on python (>= 2.3) | 02:29 |
| lamont | great minds, and all that | 02:29 |
| lamont | and hppa finds it's first hoary bug. :-) | 02:31 |
| lamont | python 2.4 isn't the default in debian yet, though, is it... | 02:32 |
| Kamion | nope | 02:32 |
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| mdz | lamont: and it isn't likely to be, if we want to release sarge | 02:40 |
| lamont | mdz: right | 02:49 |
| lamont | that was kind of the assumption | 02:49 |
| lamont | mdz: 5039 - color me clueless, but what package are they talking about> | 02:52 |
| lamont | ? | 02:52 |
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| mdz | lamont: eric | 02:53 |
| lamont | let me guess. arch all | 02:54 |
| mdz | universe, but we broke it | 02:54 |
| lamont | binNMU time, eh? or should I create 3ubuntu1? | 02:54 |
| === lamont thinks the latter. | ||
| mdz | it needs source changes | 02:55 |
| lamont | ah, ok | 02:55 |
| lamont | so it's more than 'needs rebuild". got it. | 02:55 |
| lamont | yeah. needs a few changes. I'll deal with it later tonight, probably | 02:59 |
| lamont | 17 files (other than control) have the string 'python2.3' in them. | 03:00 |
| lifeless | is gnome-python meant to have a python 2.4 version ? | 03:00 |
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| Kamion | lifeless: it does | 03:03 |
| Kamion | python2.4-gnome2 | 03:03 |
| lifeless | Kamion: hmm, missed that. | 03:06 |
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| Kamion | it's in a different source package from the 2.3 package | 03:06 |
| daniels | it started yesterday, I'm not at pool/main/g, AFAICT. | 03:06 |
| lifeless | does it upgraqde replace the other? All I noticed was aptitude bitching about python-gnome being removed | 03:08 |
| Kamion | really python-gnome, not python-gnome2? | 03:11 |
| Kamion | there's still a python-gnome2 package; try installing that and see what happens | 03:12 |
| lifeless | python-gnome2 will be automatically removed because of dependency errors: # | 03:13 |
| lifeless | # | 03:13 |
| lifeless | # | 03:13 |
| lifeless | * python-gnome2 depends on python (< 2.4) # | 03:13 |
| lifeless | * python-gnome2 depends on python2.3-gnome2 [universe] # | 03:13 |
| lifeless | * python-gnome2 recommends python-gnome2-extras [universe] well that came out like crap. | 03:13 |
| lifeless | python-gnome2-extras will be automatically removed because of dependency errors: | 03:13 |
| lifeless | python-gnome2-extras depends on python (< 2.4) | 03:14 |
| Kamion | that's strange, because that's not what the package in the archive looks like | 03:14 |
| Kamion | Package: python-gnome2 | 03:14 |
| Kamion | Version: 2.9.1-0ubuntu3 | 03:14 |
| Kamion | Depends: python (<< 2.5), python2.4-gnome2, python (>= 2.4) | 03:14 |
| Kamion | was that the log from trying to install the current version? | 03:14 |
| lifeless | also python-numeric, python-nuermic-ext, python-configlet | 03:14 |
| Kamion | sounds like synaptic is generally confused about which way to resolve the upgrade | 03:15 |
| lifeless | Kamion: thats aptitude up in front of me, having done an update ad hour or so ago. | 03:15 |
| Kamion | all those packages have been updated to python2.4, so there must be something worse that's causing it to decide not to upgrade them | 03:15 |
| Kamion | ok, either way | 03:15 |
| lifeless | ok, I'll fiddle. | 03:15 |
| lifeless | what about gnome-blog ? | 03:15 |
| Kamion | Package: gnome-blog | 03:16 |
| Kamion | Version: 0.7-4ubuntu1 | 03:16 |
| Kamion | Depends: gconf2 (>= 2.6.2-1), python (<< 2.5), python (>= 2.4), python-gnome2 | 03:16 |
| lifeless | deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted universe | 03:16 |
| lifeless | deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security main restricted | 03:16 |
| lifeless | look ok as sources ? | 03:17 |
| Kamion | you should have hoary-security for universe too, but otherwise yes | 03:18 |
| Kamion | (not that that will make any difference at the moment) | 03:18 |
| lifeless | I have a pin to hoary as teh default distro | 03:19 |
| lifeless | just doing another update. | 03:19 |
| lifeless | ok, python-gnome2 is happy now. | 03:20 |
| lifeless | python-configlet still doesn't want to play | 03:21 |
| lifeless | (gnome-blog is copacetic as well) | 03:24 |
| Kamion | universe | 03:24 |
| Kamion | python-configlet hasn't been updated | 03:25 |
| lifeless | K. | 03:25 |
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| lamont | is that one I can get away with filing against debian, I wonder.... | 05:39 |
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| lamont | anybody with access to update the chroot on halley around? | 05:53 |
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| fabbione | morning guys | 06:17 |
| fabbione | lamont: unfortunatly not.. | 06:18 |
| lamont | fabbione: yeah - I decided to let the buildd's do the testing for me and uploaded it | 06:22 |
| lamont | I do feel a little guilty, of course. | 06:22 |
| fabbione | lamont: yeah right :) | 06:23 |
| lamont | it's universe... :-0 | 06:23 |
| fabbione | lamont: do you have a ppc chroot with the latest gcc? | 06:23 |
| lamont | not personally, I expect. | 06:23 |
| fabbione | ok | 06:23 |
| lamont | I actually installed a G3 the other day, but it's currently powered off. | 06:23 |
| fabbione | i was wondering if you could do a test build of 2.6.10 on ppc | 06:24 |
| fabbione | it fails on me on a driver on davis | 06:24 |
| fabbione | but it's an old gcc | 06:24 |
| fabbione | and the error looks really strange | 06:24 |
| lamont | SIGILL? | 06:24 |
| fabbione | no | 06:24 |
| fabbione | in a switch() case FOO | 06:24 |
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| fabbione | it tells me that FOO can't be reduced to an integer | 06:25 |
| fabbione | when it perfectly does on 4 arches | 06:25 |
| fabbione | other than ppc | 06:25 |
| lamont | wonder if it's because ppc defaults to unsigned types... | 06:25 |
| lamont | (for at least char) | 06:25 |
| lamont | ppc is unique that way | 06:25 |
| fabbione | yeah and it uniquely breaks my packages | 06:26 |
| fabbione | i will ask on lkml | 06:26 |
| fabbione | perhaps they know | 06:26 |
| lamont | 508 packages done for hppa/stage1, fwiw | 06:26 |
| fabbione | cool | 06:26 |
| fabbione | when do you plan to gimme access? | 06:26 |
| === lamont bought connectors for the cyclades, just needs to make time to create cables and wire up the world | ||
| fabbione | and how are you building now without net access? | 06:27 |
| lamont | they all live on a 192.168 network in the house, with access to the local mirror | 06:28 |
| fabbione | ssh port forward works fine :-) | 06:28 |
| lamont | plan is to create an ssh hop-box to let folks in, and use the cyclades for console access to same. | 06:28 |
| lamont | but my vacation activities have kept me out of the house quite a bit this week.. | 06:29 |
| lamont | I'm finding it very difficult to get any work done. :-) | 06:29 |
| fabbione | good idea.. but in the beginning i only need ssh access (and be able to copy files around easily) | 06:29 |
| fabbione | ehehhe | 06:29 |
| fabbione | i would love to be in holidays :-) | 06:29 |
| lamont | I'm really wanting Wietse to relase postfix 2.2 this week, so that I can just turn on the ipv6/tls code that he has in 2.2, rather than porting the patch back to my 2.1.x pile yet again. | 06:31 |
| fabbione | that would be cool :-) | 06:31 |
| lamont | yeah - it's close, I think | 06:31 |
| fabbione | local root exploit confirmed in 2.6.10: Linux 2.6 KernelCapability LSM Module Local Privilege Elevation | 06:35 |
| fabbione | YEAHHHH | 06:35 |
| fabbione | and i still have to release IT! | 06:35 |
| lamont | fabbione: well, release it the fix then... :) | 06:36 |
| fabbione | lamont: i need to find pitti | 06:36 |
| fabbione | http://www.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/securityfocus/bugtraq/2004-12/0390.html | 06:37 |
| fabbione | YEAH YEAH YEAHHHHHHH | 06:37 |
| fabbione | RIDE THE KERNEL | 06:37 |
| fabbione | actually... | 06:37 |
| fabbione | we are not that exposed | 06:37 |
| fabbione | because we load capabilities before the login prompt | 06:37 |
| lamont | well, that's good | 06:39 |
| lamont | sadly, python2.4 and db4.3 both seem to be annoying hppa's 2.6.8-1 kernel, smp even more than UP. | 06:40 |
| lamont | rather, building those seems to be. | 06:40 |
| fabbione | ehhe | 06:40 |
| lamont | dropping python2.1 is going to take a few source changes. | 06:42 |
| fabbione | Errors were encountered while processing: | 06:58 |
| fabbione | libgtk2.0-bin | 06:58 |
| fabbione | lamont: do you have that problem too? | 06:58 |
| lamont | where? | 06:59 |
| fabbione | in the chroots | 07:01 |
| fabbione | building evolution and others | 07:01 |
| fabbione | Setting up libgtk2.0-bin (2.6.0-0ubuntu1) ... | 07:02 |
| fabbione | Updating the IM modules list for GTK+-2.4.0...done. | 07:02 |
| fabbione | Updating the gdk-pixbuf loaders list for GTK+-2.4.0...done. | 07:02 |
| fabbione | Failed to write cache file: No such file or directory | 07:02 |
| fabbione | dpkg: error processing libgtk2.0-bin (--configure): | 07:02 |
| fabbione | subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 | 07:02 |
| fabbione | ah no.. you didn't see it yet because you are still missing libcamel1.2-dev | 07:05 |
| fabbione | http://people.ubuntulinux.org/~lamont/buildLogs/x/ximian-connector/2.1.2-0ubuntu1/ | 07:05 |
| lamont | ah, ok | 07:06 |
| fabbione | and btw.. libcamel is there now... | 07:06 |
| fabbione | but hell.. you are in holidays! | 07:06 |
| fabbione | you are not supposed to be here talking about work :-) | 07:07 |
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| fabbione | Mithrandir: ping | 08:49 |
| fabbione | never mind :-) | 09:10 |
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| Treenaks | morning abelli | 09:24 |
| fabbione | hey Treenaks | 09:33 |
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| Treenaks | hey fabbione | 09:38 |
| fabbione | we need a kernel task force | 09:57 |
| crimsun | to deal with all the security advisories? | 09:58 |
| fabbione | no to deal with all the configuration and build issues | 09:58 |
| crimsun | hmm, ok. | 09:58 |
| crimsun | where do we start? | 09:58 |
| fabbione | crimsun: what arches do you have? | 09:59 |
| crimsun | only i386 | 09:59 |
| fabbione | i have that :) | 10:00 |
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| crimsun | :) | 10:00 |
| calc | i got two amd64 and i386 systems :) | 10:02 |
| calc | and a m68k doorstop | 10:02 |
| fabbione | amd64 would be good | 10:03 |
| calc | ok | 10:11 |
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| pitti | Hi | 10:15 |
| abelli | pitti: ciao | 10:15 |
| fabbione | hey pitti | 10:16 |
| fabbione | pitti: are you having nice holidays? | 10:16 |
| pitti | fabbione: yes, so far | 10:16 |
| fabbione | pitti: ok.. so i can ruin them | 10:16 |
| pitti | fabbione: I want to work today, my mailbox explodes and there are a bunch of security issues... | 10:16 |
| fabbione | local root exploit on all the 2.6 serie | 10:16 |
| pitti | yay | 10:17 |
| pitti | I just started looking into my mailbox | 10:17 |
| fabbione | and it's public | 10:17 |
| pitti | I will probably need about two hours to catch up with the most important stuff | 10:17 |
| fabbione | it was funny this morning to edit /etc/shadow as normal user :-) | 10:19 |
| pitti | d'oh | 10:21 |
| fabbione | i don't understand why it takes 2 hours each day to run updatedb | 10:25 |
| fabbione | is it a known problem? | 10:26 |
| Treenaks | is the bug even in 2.6.10? | 10:28 |
| fabbione | all of the 2.6 kernels | 10:31 |
| Treenaks | great | 10:31 |
| fabbione | starting from 2.5.7x something | 10:31 |
| Treenaks | there have been a LOT of holes in 2.6.x lately | 10:32 |
| Treenaks | or is everyone just looking harder? | 10:32 |
| fabbione | ot | 10:32 |
| fabbione | it | 10:32 |
| fabbione | it's Xmas | 10:32 |
| fabbione | it must be xmas | 10:33 |
| Treenaks | fabbione: it's the capability one? | 10:35 |
| fabbione | yeps | 10:35 |
| Treenaks | so if you have it "built-in" instead of loaded as a module it isn't a problem? *reading bugtraq archive* | 10:35 |
| calc | btw ati is looking for testers of their new drivers including amd64 support | 10:37 |
| fabbione | Treenaks: yes. i have been thinking about it too | 10:37 |
| daniels | and pcie | 10:37 |
| fabbione | who broke apt? | 11:03 |
| fabbione | 5492 -rw-r--r-- 1 sparcbuildd sparcbuildd 5608995 2004-12-29 11:02 apt_0.6.29_20041229-0720 | 11:03 |
| fabbione | configure loop endless | 11:03 |
| mvo | fabbione: usually I break it and matt uploads it | 11:07 |
| mvo | fabbione: can I see a build-log? | 11:07 |
| fabbione | mvo: sure | 11:08 |
| fabbione | mvo: email address? | 11:08 |
| mvo | michael.vogt@canonical.com | 11:09 |
| fabbione | ah no | 11:09 |
| fabbione | i think it is something else | 11:09 |
| fabbione | hmm | 11:09 |
| mvo | ah, ok | 11:09 |
| mvo | I was wondering what it might be. the changes from 0.6.28->29 are pretty harmless | 11:09 |
| fabbione | cd build && CXXFLAGS="" ../configure --build sparc-linux | 11:09 |
| fabbione | ../configure: line 21: /dev/null: Permission denied | 11:09 |
| fabbione | this IS WEIRD! | 11:10 |
| mvo | hehe | 11:10 |
| mvo | /dev/null is full :P | 11:10 |
| daniels | sparc obviously sucks | 11:11 |
| fabbione | daniels: actually.. sparc was the only one building 2.6.10 ;) | 11:12 |
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| fabbione | mvo: udev was at fault | 11:32 |
| mvo | fabbione: thanks | 11:32 |
| fabbione | the new version did started automatically | 11:32 |
| fabbione | mangling all the permissions in /dev | 11:33 |
| mvo | uhhh, that sucks | 11:33 |
| daniels | ok, people with up-to-date hoary: does /usr/bin/python point to /etc/alternatives/python, or python2.4? | 11:36 |
| mvo | daniels: /usr/bin/python -> python2.4 | 11:37 |
| mvo | updated yesterday | 11:37 |
| daniels | mvo: ok, thanks | 11:37 |
| fabbione | i guess pitti rooted himself | 11:45 |
| Treenaks | fabbione: the Australian way? | 11:46 |
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| fabbione | Treenaks: the goatse way | 11:50 |
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| pef | hello | 12:27 |
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| fabbione | pitti: http://people.ubuntulinux.org/~fabbione/pasta/linguine_ai_frutti_di_mare/ | 01:58 |
| lamont | daniels: python does not use alternatives. | 01:58 |
| fabbione | pitti: you will hate me for that | 01:59 |
| fabbione | hey lamont | 01:59 |
| fabbione | lamont: did you update any of the chroot on the buildd recently? | 01:59 |
| pitti | fabbione: as soon as my modem link downloaded the pics, I will :-) | 01:59 |
| fabbione | lamont: if so be very careful about udev | 01:59 |
| fabbione | lamont: for some reasons the new udev started the daemon (correctly), but it killed all the permissions on the devices | 01:59 |
| lamont | fabbione: the chroots autoupdate every morning. | 02:00 |
| fabbione | including /dev/null | 02:00 |
| pitti | fabbione: bah, I doubt that I would eat that stuff. But enjoy! :-) | 02:00 |
| lamont | fabbione: but then, udev isn't in a proper chroot. | 02:00 |
| lamont | s/proper/proper buildd | 02:01 |
| fabbione | lamont: iirc it was pulled in a dist-upgrade | 02:01 |
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| fabbione | pitti: you don't like seafood? | 02:05 |
| pitti | fabbione: not at all | 02:05 |
| fabbione | pitti: oh god.. | 02:05 |
| fabbione | it must suck to be you | 02:05 |
| fabbione | :P | 02:05 |
| pitti | fabbione: I like fish, but not the other stuff (with many legs and so on) | 02:06 |
| === ogra would take one or two plates of this yummy stuff | ||
| lamont | fabbione: most recent dist-upgrade (as of 15 seconds ago) pulled in apt 0.6.29. that is all. no udev | 02:08 |
| mdz | a buildd wouldn't get it | 02:09 |
| fabbione | hmmm | 02:09 |
| mdz | it's depended upon by things like ubuntu-base, hal, etc. | 02:09 |
| === fabbione thinks of a polluted chroot... | ||
| lamont | fabbione: that's what I'm thinking you have too.. | 02:09 |
| fabbione | oh well | 02:09 |
| fabbione | i will bootstrap another one | 02:09 |
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| lamont | well, off to denver for the day - back later | 02:18 |
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| sjoerd | fabbione: did you have a chance to try 2.6.10 on sparc? | 02:43 |
| fabbione | not yet | 02:45 |
| fabbione | it compiles.. that's all i know | 02:45 |
| mjg59 | fabbione: Do you have debs of the 2.6.10 build yet? | 02:47 |
| sjoerd | fabbione: my machine hangs when switching from openprom to the framebuffer.. can you let me know if it works for you :) | 02:48 |
| fabbione | mjg59: i am going to upload in a hour or so | 02:48 |
| fabbione | sjoerd: it might as well boot fine for me because i only have serial console | 02:48 |
| fabbione | so fb would fail to load | 02:49 |
| sjoerd | that would be also interesting to know | 02:49 |
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| pitti | Mithrandir: ping | 02:58 |
| fabbione | pitti: | 03:02 |
| fabbione | cd debian/config | 03:02 |
| fabbione | for i in `find . -type f`; do cat $i | sed -e 's/SECURITY_CAPABILITIES=m/SECURITY_CAPABILITIES=y/g' > $i.new && mv $i.new $i; done | 03:02 |
| fabbione | this will change all the config files to get capability inside the kernel | 03:03 |
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| pitti | fabbione: sounds like a quick and safe fix | 03:03 |
| fabbione | i just uploaded 2.6.9-11 with that and the ip-conntrack ftp fix | 03:03 |
| fabbione | pitti: yes. | 03:03 |
| fabbione | there was another message on the lkml | 03:04 |
| pitti | fabbione: I think the worst that could happen to warty is that you get an error message at bootup if /etc/modules contains capability | 03:04 |
| pitti | ? | 03:04 |
| fabbione | but nothing more than: It is difficult to exploit | 03:04 |
| fabbione | pitti: i think so... yes | 03:04 |
| fabbione | pitti: i would still ask Herbert and mdz to be 10000% sure | 03:04 |
| pitti | fabbione: do we need to fix Warty for this ip_conntrack issue? | 03:04 |
| fabbione | pitti: well.. it's a memory leak when using fxp | 03:04 |
| === pitti wonders how one can be more "sure" than 100% :-) | ||
| fabbione | it's not urgent but if you are doing a USN, just stick it in | 03:05 |
| pitti | fabbione: can you please mail me and Herbert the patch? | 03:05 |
| fabbione | pitti: you add a 100% for each arch and for each flavour of the kernel you are going to upload :-) | 03:05 |
| pitti | fabbione: ah, ok :-) | 03:06 |
| fabbione | pitti: the patch for for the ftp? | 03:06 |
| pitti | yes | 03:06 |
| fabbione | i think i gave it to you already | 03:06 |
| fabbione | otherwise -11 will hit the archive in a few minutes | 03:06 |
| fabbione | it's called fix-ip-conn* | 03:06 |
| pitti | fabbione: I don't have it yet, but I can just take it from the archive then | 03:06 |
| fabbione | pitti: ok.. ok.. you lazy bastard :) | 03:07 |
| pitti | fabbione: ? | 03:07 |
| fabbione | i will mail it | 03:07 |
| fabbione | pitti: mail on the way | 03:08 |
| pitti | fabbione: thanks | 03:08 |
| fabbione | sorry i didn't find Herbert mail on the fly | 03:09 |
| pitti | I forward it, np | 03:09 |
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| mako | "Believe me or not, the Ubuntu Linux is wanted like hot bread here in Romania. :)" | 04:40 |
| ogra | yay | 04:42 |
| ogra | i belive | 04:42 |
| === mako loves hot bread | ||
| ogra | how is the heating situation ? | 04:42 |
| mako | the super fixed it yesterday :) | 04:44 |
| mako | *so* much better | 04:44 |
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| ogra | yay | 04:48 |
| ogra | congrats :) | 04:48 |
| fabbione | goody | 04:53 |
| fabbione | 2.6.10 uploaded | 04:53 |
| HcE | =) | 04:53 |
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| fabbione | elmo_away: linux-source-2.6.10_2.6.10-1_source.changes is NEW | 04:57 |
| pitti | fabbione: oh, what did you add? | 04:59 |
| fabbione | nothing.. it's a NEW package... | 05:00 |
| fabbione | source linux-source-2.6.10 | 05:00 |
| fabbione | that is not in the archive yet | 05:00 |
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| fabbione | it is simply new :-) | 05:01 |
| fabbione | ok.. that's enough for today | 05:02 |
| fabbione | cya tommorrow | 05:02 |
| pitti | oh | 05:02 |
| fabbione | seb128: hey | 05:02 |
| pitti | fabbione: see you | 05:02 |
| pitti | Hi seb128 | 05:02 |
| fabbione | libgtk2.0-bin is broken | 05:03 |
| seb128 | hey | 05:03 |
| seb128 | fabbione: since when ? | 05:03 |
| fabbione | Setting up libgtk2.0-bin (2.6.0-0ubuntu1) ... | 05:03 |
| fabbione | Updating the IM modules list for GTK+-2.4.0...done. | 05:03 |
| fabbione | Updating the gdk-pixbuf loaders list for GTK+-2.4.0...done. | 05:03 |
| fabbione | Failed to write cache file: No such file or directory | 05:03 |
| fabbione | dpkg: error processing libgtk2.0-bin (--configure): | 05:03 |
| fabbione | subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 | 05:03 |
| fabbione | on a fresh chroot | 05:03 |
| fabbione | not sure... | 05:03 |
| fabbione | i noticed today on the sparc buildd logs | 05:03 |
| fabbione | probably is something else that broke | 05:03 |
| fabbione | not sure.. | 05:04 |
| fabbione | hadn't have the time to check | 05:04 |
| seb128 | hum ok | 05:04 |
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| mako | Kamion (or anyone else): where is the source for the installer documentation? | 05:08 |
| ogra | sivang ? | 05:09 |
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| ogra | sivang: in #ubuntu is a guy who wants to help on hebrew localization .... nick: nakee | 05:11 |
| Kamion | mako: debian-installer | 05:17 |
| mvo__ | Kamion: can you please put ubuntu-keyring into the base seed? | 05:18 |
| Kamion | mvo__: already done | 05:18 |
| Kamion | last night | 05:18 |
| mvo__ | Kamion: great, thanks! | 05:18 |
| Kamion | mvo__: it's still in universe though, can't add it to debootstrap until elmo gets back | 05:18 |
| mako | Kamion: thanks | 05:18 |
| mako | Kamion: the doc team is talking about the installation manual in #ubuntu-doc | 05:20 |
| mvo__ | I'm off to buy some food, will be back in ~1h | 05:21 |
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| kylem | wow. somebody is annoying. | 05:34 |
| fabbione | nah | 05:35 |
| fabbione | i know him personally.. it must have been some crack on the client | 05:35 |
| fabbione | note that he was killing himself | 05:35 |
| kylem | heh. | 05:35 |
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| Kamion | daniels: is there any equivalent of http://www.xfree86.org/current/mouse.html for X.Org? | 05:48 |
| sivang | ogra: here | 05:49 |
| ogra | sivang: in #ubuntu was a guy who wants to help on hebrew localization .... nick: nakee | 05:50 |
| ogra | dunno if he is still there | 05:50 |
| sivang | ogra: let's see | 05:50 |
| ogra | :) | 05:50 |
| sivang | ogra: thanks :) | 05:51 |
| ogra | :) | 05:51 |
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| mako | sivang: were you the one talking about a central place for pictures of the ubuntu conference? | 06:35 |
| ogra | mako: i was asking for that (probably sivang as well) | 06:36 |
| ogra | mako: for ppl that dont have the bandwith or server place | 06:36 |
| mako | ogra: well, i'm setting a wiki page to link to them | 06:39 |
| ogra | great :) | 06:39 |
| mako | and perhaps some general soul will offer some server space | 06:39 |
| sivang | mako: also, why? | 06:40 |
| ogra | i would, but i pay the bandwith :( | 06:40 |
| mako | ogra: i might have a place.. | 06:40 |
| ogra | ah, oj....i'm fine with my pcis on my server....just for others.... | 06:41 |
| sivang | mako: I can ask ChrisH also about the webspace | 06:41 |
| ogra | pics | 06:41 |
| mako | http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/MataroPictures | 06:44 |
| mako | Treenaks: you have pictures, right | 06:44 |
| mako | Treenaks: you should link them up here: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/MataroPictures | 06:44 |
| ogra | mako: they are all here: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/ConferenceGalleries | 06:45 |
| mako | ogra: ah, you are correct | 06:47 |
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| ogra | mako: i thought you added a upload capable page to the wiki..... | 06:48 |
| ogra | mako: but that would be redundant.... | 06:48 |
| mako | ogra: i can change the other one | 06:49 |
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| ogra | yep, i think that would be cool, or move the links over (i like youre title more ) ;) | 06:49 |
| mako | Treenaks: sorry, disregards me | 06:50 |
| smurfix | So who broke the Wiki's "page not found" dialog? | 06:55 |
| ogra | smurfix: doesnt look broken here | 06:57 |
| ogra | smurfix: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/search?SearchableText=blah | 06:57 |
| smurfix | Umm, just go to http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FooBarBazWhatever -- that looked better last week. | 06:59 |
| === smurfix just added Amaya's gallery to ConferenceGalleries | ||
| ogra | smurfix: uuuh ugly | 07:01 |
| ogra | smurfix: (not amayas gallery....) | 07:06 |
| smurfix | ogra: I kindof understood what you were referring to. ;-) | 07:06 |
| ogra | :) | 07:06 |
| sivang | smurfix: Israeli team page done. | 07:12 |
| sivang | smurfix: what about new moin, any nwes? | 07:12 |
| smurfix | sivang: Just watch Debian bug #287006, or subscribe to moin in the PTS... | 07:14 |
| smurfix | I'll install it as soon as it's available. | 07:16 |
| sivang | smurfix: thanks. | 07:20 |
| sm | smurfix: that was me, see ubuntu-user | 07:34 |
| sm | the old error page was pretty but useless, I thought | 07:35 |
| smurfix | sm: The new error page looks like it belongs to a wholly different website, though | 07:36 |
| sm | ok, I'll work on that | 07:37 |
| sm | if you think it should be reverted until then, bring it up on the list and I'll obey consensus | 07:37 |
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| sm | oh, I'm on -devel here aren't I.. we *make* consensus.. :) | 07:38 |
| zul | beat heads in :) | 07:39 |
| smurfix | sm: IMHO it makes sense to revert that change until your new page is ready, but it's your call. | 07:42 |
| sm | smurfix: ok | 07:42 |
| sm | it would help if I could get in to the ZMI root folder.. does anyone know why :8002 no longer responds ? | 07:42 |
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| mxpxpod | fabbione: ping | 08:13 |
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| lamont | or fabbione | 08:39 |
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| sm | smurfix: I've reinstated a simplified version with the plone skin | 08:51 |
| ogra | sm: looks very good now | 08:52 |
| sm | thx | 08:52 |
| sm | do you think it should do a search automatically ? | 08:52 |
| ogra | what would it search if you type: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FooBarBazWhatever | 08:55 |
| sm | probably the wiki | 08:59 |
| sm | I don't do that by default because of robots | 08:59 |
| sm | but http://www.ubuntulinux.org/whatever seems to do a full site search already | 08:59 |
| sm | so why not | 09:00 |
| ogra | yep, then do it... | 09:01 |
| sm | ok done | 09:11 |
| daniels | Kamion: http://xorg.freedesktop.org/X11R6.8.1/doc/mouse.html | 09:11 |
| daniels | lamont: yeah, he fiddled the symlink himself, hence why it's normal. should be more robust. ;) | 09:11 |
| ogra | daniels: great to see you.... | 09:15 |
| ogra | daniels: i have a user question.....(will ask in #ubuntu) if you got a sec.... | 09:17 |
| daniels | ogra: yo | 09:18 |
| daniels | ogra: not really, sorry. just quickly checking everything before i run off. but put 'daniels:' at the start of the line and I'll check it when I get back later. | 09:18 |
| ogra | daniels: upgraded my flowerpower imac yesterday xorg doesnt work but gdm starts fine with a blyck screen....any hints ? no errors so far.... | 09:19 |
| ogra | daniels: there is no hurry for an answer, its one of my many "play around" boxes....could even wait till next year... | 09:22 |
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| Kamion | daniels: thanks, updated for the next release | 09:53 |
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| TD | any launchpad gurus here? | 10:07 |
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| lamont | daniels: I have a MANIFEST for hppa for you... | 11:49 |
| lamont | what files did you need again, and where do should they go in the source ball? | 11:49 |
| daniels | lamont: MANIFEST.hppa.new, just throw it over, unless you've constructed a MANIFEST.hppa.in, xserver-xorg.{docs,install}.hppa, and xlibmesa-dri.install.hppa :) | 11:50 |
| daniels | Kamion: no worries | 11:50 |
| daniels | ogra: ah, looks like a HorizSync/VertRefresh thing. file a bug with the output of sudo ddcprobe, lspci -v and /var/log/Xorg.0.log | 11:51 |
| ogra | daniels: fine, thanks... | 11:51 |
| lamont | daniels: people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/MANIFEST.hppa.new | 11:52 |
| lamont | daniels: what is the minimum that I need to do to construct a -ubuntu8.1 locally? | 11:53 |
| lamont | stage1 is kinda wedged waiting for xorg, you see. | 11:53 |
| Kamion | daniels: is http://xorg.freedesktop.org/ a better URL to point to from the installation manual for X.Org in general than http://www.x.org/? | 11:55 |
| lamont | well, and gcc-3.3 and db4.3, but almost nothing cares about db4.3 yet | 11:55 |
| Clint | grr | 11:56 |
| daniels | lamont: look at the diff between *.i386 between xfree86 and xorg, use that to construct *.hppa. bear in mind that MANIFEST is split between MANIFEST.all.in and MANIFEST.hppa.in | 11:57 |
| daniels | lamont: so yeah, basically just work from XFree86 and look at the diffs between the i386 stuff between xfree86 and xorg, and also the diff between the MANIFEST.hppa{,.in} | 11:58 |
| daniels | Kamion: shit yes. www.x.org is an abysmal website, and nothing should ever point there. | 11:58 |
| Kamion | alrighty | 11:58 |
| daniels | Kamion: cheers | 11:58 |
| lamont | daniels: and if you do it, when will it be available? :-) | 11:58 |
| daniels | Kamion: oh btw, /current/doc/ will be longer-lived | 11:58 |
| daniels | lamont: i don't start work again until the 3rd :) | 11:58 |
| Kamion | daniels: ahead of you :) | 11:59 |
| daniels | Kamion: heh | 11:59 |
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