=== ironwolf [~ironwolf@63-228-63-108.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:06] oh fooey, now I can't find libXxf86vm_pic.a [12:12] libxxf86vm1 ? [12:12] Riddell: that's because it doesn't exist [12:13] Riddell: link with -lXxf86vm and get the shared library, not -lXxf86vm_pic, which was a hack to work around the fact it was only shipped static [12:22] daniels: right, thanks === mdz [~mdz@69-167-148-207.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mdz [~mdz@69-167-148-207.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:42] guys i want to file a bug against fstab, is base-files the right package ? [12:44] ogra: what is the bug? :) [12:45] ogra: it's not a base-file, it's contents are probably created by debian-installer [12:45] sivang: floppy uses auto as filesystem.....what makes it impossible to mount vfat floppies through nautilus....havent tested ext2 but i suspect the same there [12:46] ogra: eh [12:46] Riddell: that would be base-config then i thin [12:46] k [12:46] sivang: you can mount them via -t vfat though.... but not in anutilus [12:46] nautilus [12:49] ogra: I think iv'e seen soemthing similar with ntfs.. [12:50] sivang: ntfs floppies ? [12:51] 5060 filed :) [01:00] fstab is spat out by various bits of partman. [01:01] not base-config; that runs after the reboot and therefore after fstab is used [01:01] argh... i was to fast... sorry [01:01] also, 'auto' is the correct value [01:01] so next time i know...partman [01:01] I agree, and was about to say that in the bug [01:02] bu tit doesnt work [01:02] it works for me, so the problem must lie elsewhere [01:02] I have seen that behaviour before, though [01:02] it works on none of my machines.... [01:02] mdz: btw, per your XorgAutoDetection mail, I think there's a regression in that I can't find the way to actually force re-xresprobe'ing. other than that, should just be s/foo/bar/. [01:02] and not on the lots of users machines i have supported until today..... [01:03] mdz: will sort it on monday [01:03] ogra: auto is also the ideal value, so I'd rather see whatever bug it is that makes it not work be fixed [01:04] Kamion: either way will be ok, but its a common bug in #ubuntu just ask in the cannel, you will get multiple response :) [01:04] I'm sure [01:04] I have a policy of not being pressured by that sort of thing though [01:05] in order to keep myself sane [01:05] but if you think its located anywhere else i will try to track it... :) [01:06] daniels: thanks [01:06] mdz: no worries [01:06] it is not, fundamentally, an installer bug. A change there would only be a workaround. My best guess would be either mount itself or the kernel. [01:06] ogra: I just installed a fresh Warty system a couple of days ago, and it worked there [01:07] yep, i thought of the floppy module.... [01:07] I believe 'auto' is passed straight through to the kernel [01:07] might start with util-linux/mount/mount.c:guess_fstype_and_mount() [01:07] mdz: i will try to find it..... [01:08] and for that matter mount_guess_fstype.c [01:08] ok [01:08] :) [01:08] getting images of disks which are vfat but not detected as such online would doubtless be helpful [01:08] if you have trouble, please take a sample floppy and dd the whole thing [01:08] ... what daniels said :) [01:09] I'm certainly willing to look at such an image [01:10] ok i will follow up in the bug then :) === Ygster [~ygster@d80-170-147-36.cust.tele2.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Ygster [~ygster@d80-170-147-36.cust.tele2.fr] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Software] [01:30] moo [01:34] mdz: yeah, I'd go with base for ubuntu-keyring. Anything particular blocking that? [01:34] Kamion: not to my knowledge [01:34] (noticed you added it to supported last week) [01:34] it will depend on gnupg, which is already in base [01:34] ok, I'll do it then [01:34] as long as you're there, we should be able to remove libpcap0.7 [01:34] oh yes, can I add silo to base for sparc? seems obviously correct [01:35] I uploaded a ppp which builds with libpcap0.8 [01:35] thumbs up for silo/sparc [01:36] (ubuntu-keyring's under "Not quite ready for the default install yet", guess that's just transitional) [01:38] lamont: should I add python-minimal and python2.4-minimal to hoary.buildd, since they'll be becoming essential? [01:39] Kamion: yeah, I just didn't want to add it to base until we had talked about it [01:39] but it certainly should have gone into main [01:39] of course, it ended up in universe anyway [01:39] I imagine that'll cause problems for debootstrap [01:39] nah, my update script will ignore it until it's in main [01:39] (or restricted) [01:39] Kamion: certainly [01:40] well, moved it to base anyway :) [01:40] .buildd == essential + build-essential [01:40] lamont: I like to ask you before touching .buildd :) [01:40] Kamion: I'd rather it just kept working.. :-) thanks though. [01:41] mdz: I'll skip the debootstrap upload until ubuntu-keyring's in main then, removing libpcap0.7 shouldn't be urgent [01:44] mdz: UVF is today, or when? [01:45] lamont: see ubuntu-devel@ [01:45] doh [01:45] kewl. I can work on postfix in debian this week then. :-0 [01:47] wow, svn 1.1 and the fsfs repository type totally wipe the floor with svn 1.0 and bdb [01:49] mdz: what should be responsible for adding the Ubuntu archive key to apt-key? Is that an installer job? === enrico [~enrico@enrico.developer.debian] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lamont watches hppa-stage1 slog forward. [02:02] Kamion: ubuntu-keyring should do that when it's configured [02:02] that's the plan anyway [02:03] mdz: btw, glibc -20 builds on ia64 finally [02:04] yay [02:08] mdz: good-oh, less work for me === AndyFitz [~andy@220-245-97-227-qld-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lamont files a bug so he can close it. [02:26] hrm... is python2.4 backwards compatible enough that I can just s/2.3/2.4/, or should I explicily build-dep on python2.3... === lamont tries 2.4 [02:28] lamont: context? [02:28] ispell-lt Build-Depends: python, and hardcodes python2.3 in it's scripts [02:28] 5061 [02:28] ewww [02:28] s/python2.3/python/g [02:29] I bet it works just fine to build-dep python (>=2.3) and use 'python' [02:29] and build-depend on python (>= 2.3) [02:29] great minds, and all that [02:31] and hppa finds it's first hoary bug. :-) [02:32] python 2.4 isn't the default in debian yet, though, is it... [02:32] nope === lamont files a bug against the debian package, pointing at the patchg [02:40] lamont: and it isn't likely to be, if we want to release sarge [02:49] mdz: right [02:49] that was kind of the assumption [02:52] mdz: 5039 - color me clueless, but what package are they talking about> [02:52] ? === lamont will be back in a while [02:53] lamont: eric [02:54] let me guess. arch all [02:54] universe, but we broke it [02:54] binNMU time, eh? or should I create 3ubuntu1? === lamont thinks the latter. [02:55] it needs source changes [02:55] ah, ok [02:55] so it's more than 'needs rebuild". got it. [02:59] yeah. needs a few changes. I'll deal with it later tonight, probably [03:00] 17 files (other than control) have the string 'python2.3' in them. [03:00] is gnome-python meant to have a python 2.4 version ? === lamont bbiab [03:03] lifeless: it does [03:03] python2.4-gnome2 [03:06] Kamion: hmm, missed that. === daniels watches the entire Ubuntu archive rsync, bwlimited to 30kb/sec. [03:06] it's in a different source package from the 2.3 package [03:06] it started yesterday, I'm not at pool/main/g, AFAICT. [03:08] does it upgraqde replace the other? All I noticed was aptitude bitching about python-gnome being removed [03:11] really python-gnome, not python-gnome2? [03:12] there's still a python-gnome2 package; try installing that and see what happens [03:13] python-gnome2 will be automatically removed because of dependency errors: # [03:13] # [03:13] # [03:13] * python-gnome2 depends on python (< 2.4) # [03:13] * python-gnome2 depends on python2.3-gnome2 [universe] # [03:13] * python-gnome2 recommends python-gnome2-extras [universe] well that came out like crap. [03:13] python-gnome2-extras will be automatically removed because of dependency errors: [03:14] python-gnome2-extras depends on python (< 2.4) [03:14] that's strange, because that's not what the package in the archive looks like [03:14] Package: python-gnome2 [03:14] Version: 2.9.1-0ubuntu3 [03:14] Depends: python (<< 2.5), python2.4-gnome2, python (>= 2.4) [03:14] was that the log from trying to install the current version? [03:14] also python-numeric, python-nuermic-ext, python-configlet [03:15] sounds like synaptic is generally confused about which way to resolve the upgrade [03:15] Kamion: thats aptitude up in front of me, having done an update ad hour or so ago. [03:15] all those packages have been updated to python2.4, so there must be something worse that's causing it to decide not to upgrade them [03:15] ok, either way [03:15] ok, I'll fiddle. [03:15] what about gnome-blog ? [03:16] Package: gnome-blog [03:16] Version: 0.7-4ubuntu1 [03:16] Depends: gconf2 (>= 2.6.2-1), python (<< 2.5), python (>= 2.4), python-gnome2 [03:16] deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted universe [03:16] deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security main restricted [03:17] look ok as sources ? [03:18] you should have hoary-security for universe too, but otherwise yes [03:18] (not that that will make any difference at the moment) [03:19] I have a pin to hoary as teh default distro [03:19] just doing another update. [03:20] ok, python-gnome2 is happy now. [03:21] python-configlet still doesn't want to play [03:24] (gnome-blog is copacetic as well) [03:24] universe [03:25] python-configlet hasn't been updated [03:25] K. === Todd_MA_1975 [~Todd_MA_1@h000f6632661b.ne.client2.attbi.com] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === lamont_r [~lamont@209-180-255-158.dnvr.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === enrico [~enrico@enrico.developer.debian] has joined #ubuntu-devel === usual [~colin@alb-69-202-45-196.nycap.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lamont files bug #5063, giggles [05:39] is that one I can get away with filing against debian, I wonder.... === ironwolf [~ironwolf@63-228-63-108.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:53] anybody with access to update the chroot on halley around? === bronson [~bronson@node-40240852.sjc.onnet.us.uu.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === crimsun [~crimsun@crimsun.silver.supporter.pdpc] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:17] morning guys [06:18] lamont: unfortunatly not.. [06:22] fabbione: yeah - I decided to let the buildd's do the testing for me and uploaded it [06:22] I do feel a little guilty, of course. [06:23] lamont: yeah right :) [06:23] it's universe... :-0 [06:23] lamont: do you have a ppc chroot with the latest gcc? [06:23] not personally, I expect. [06:23] ok [06:23] I actually installed a G3 the other day, but it's currently powered off. [06:24] i was wondering if you could do a test build of 2.6.10 on ppc [06:24] it fails on me on a driver on davis [06:24] but it's an old gcc [06:24] and the error looks really strange [06:24] SIGILL? [06:24] no [06:24] in a switch() case FOO === lamont is actually getting ready to fall over into bed. [06:25] it tells me that FOO can't be reduced to an integer [06:25] when it perfectly does on 4 arches [06:25] other than ppc [06:25] wonder if it's because ppc defaults to unsigned types... [06:25] (for at least char) [06:25] ppc is unique that way [06:26] yeah and it uniquely breaks my packages [06:26] i will ask on lkml [06:26] perhaps they know [06:26] 508 packages done for hppa/stage1, fwiw [06:26] cool [06:26] when do you plan to gimme access? === lamont bought connectors for the cyclades, just needs to make time to create cables and wire up the world [06:27] and how are you building now without net access? [06:28] they all live on a 192.168 network in the house, with access to the local mirror [06:28] ssh port forward works fine :-) [06:28] plan is to create an ssh hop-box to let folks in, and use the cyclades for console access to same. [06:29] but my vacation activities have kept me out of the house quite a bit this week.. [06:29] I'm finding it very difficult to get any work done. :-) [06:29] good idea.. but in the beginning i only need ssh access (and be able to copy files around easily) [06:29] ehehhe [06:29] i would love to be in holidays :-) [06:31] I'm really wanting Wietse to relase postfix 2.2 this week, so that I can just turn on the ipv6/tls code that he has in 2.2, rather than porting the patch back to my 2.1.x pile yet again. [06:31] that would be cool :-) [06:31] yeah - it's close, I think [06:35] local root exploit confirmed in 2.6.10: Linux 2.6 KernelCapability LSM Module Local Privilege Elevation [06:35] YEAHHHH [06:35] and i still have to release IT! [06:36] fabbione: well, release it the fix then... :) [06:36] lamont: i need to find pitti [06:37] http://www.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/securityfocus/bugtraq/2004-12/0390.html [06:37] YEAH YEAH YEAHHHHHHH [06:37] RIDE THE KERNEL [06:37] actually... [06:37] we are not that exposed [06:37] because we load capabilities before the login prompt [06:39] well, that's good [06:40] sadly, python2.4 and db4.3 both seem to be annoying hppa's 2.6.8-1 kernel, smp even more than UP. [06:40] rather, building those seems to be. [06:40] ehhe [06:42] dropping python2.1 is going to take a few source changes. [06:58] Errors were encountered while processing: [06:58] libgtk2.0-bin [06:58] lamont: do you have that problem too? [06:59] where? [07:01] in the chroots [07:01] building evolution and others [07:02] Setting up libgtk2.0-bin (2.6.0-0ubuntu1) ... [07:02] Updating the IM modules list for GTK+-2.4.0...done. [07:02] Updating the gdk-pixbuf loaders list for GTK+-2.4.0...done. [07:02] Failed to write cache file: No such file or directory [07:02] dpkg: error processing libgtk2.0-bin (--configure): [07:02] subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 [07:05] ah no.. you didn't see it yet because you are still missing libcamel1.2-dev [07:05] http://people.ubuntulinux.org/~lamont/buildLogs/x/ximian-connector/2.1.2-0ubuntu1/ [07:06] ah, ok [07:06] and btw.. libcamel is there now... [07:06] but hell.. you are in holidays! [07:07] you are not supposed to be here talking about work :-) === kferdous [ivan@ool-45700fc5.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === kferdous [ivan@ool-45700fc5.dyn.optonline.net] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === sm [~simon@lsanca1-ar5-4-60-057-032.lsanca1.dsl-verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:49] Mithrandir: ping [09:10] never mind :-) === abelli [~abelli@84.222.38.7] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:24] morning abelli [09:33] hey Treenaks === Todd_MA_1975 [~Todd_MA_1@h000f6632661b.ne.client2.attbi.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:38] hey fabbione [09:57] we need a kernel task force [09:58] to deal with all the security advisories? [09:58] no to deal with all the configuration and build issues [09:58] hmm, ok. [09:58] where do we start? [09:59] crimsun: what arches do you have? [09:59] only i386 [10:00] i have that :) === mvo [~Michael@ip181.135.1511I-CUD12K-01.ish.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:00] :) [10:02] i got two amd64 and i386 systems :) [10:02] and a m68k doorstop [10:03] amd64 would be good [10:11] ok === pitti [~martin@dialin-145-254-080-037.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:15] Hi [10:15] pitti: ciao [10:16] hey pitti [10:16] pitti: are you having nice holidays? [10:16] fabbione: yes, so far [10:16] pitti: ok.. so i can ruin them [10:16] fabbione: I want to work today, my mailbox explodes and there are a bunch of security issues... [10:16] local root exploit on all the 2.6 serie [10:17] yay [10:17] I just started looking into my mailbox [10:17] and it's public [10:17] I will probably need about two hours to catch up with the most important stuff [10:19] it was funny this morning to edit /etc/shadow as normal user :-) [10:21] d'oh [10:25] i don't understand why it takes 2 hours each day to run updatedb [10:26] is it a known problem? [10:28] is the bug even in 2.6.10? [10:31] all of the 2.6 kernels [10:31] great [10:31] starting from 2.5.7x something [10:32] there have been a LOT of holes in 2.6.x lately [10:32] or is everyone just looking harder? [10:32] ot [10:32] it [10:32] it's Xmas [10:33] it must be xmas [10:35] fabbione: it's the capability one? [10:35] yeps [10:35] so if you have it "built-in" instead of loaded as a module it isn't a problem? *reading bugtraq archive* [10:37] btw ati is looking for testers of their new drivers including amd64 support [10:37] Treenaks: yes. i have been thinking about it too [10:37] and pcie [11:03] who broke apt? [11:03] 5492 -rw-r--r-- 1 sparcbuildd sparcbuildd 5608995 2004-12-29 11:02 apt_0.6.29_20041229-0720 [11:03] configure loop endless [11:07] fabbione: usually I break it and matt uploads it [11:07] fabbione: can I see a build-log? [11:08] mvo: sure [11:08] mvo: email address? [11:09] michael.vogt@canonical.com [11:09] ah no [11:09] i think it is something else [11:09] hmm [11:09] ah, ok [11:09] I was wondering what it might be. the changes from 0.6.28->29 are pretty harmless [11:09] cd build && CXXFLAGS="" ../configure --build sparc-linux [11:09] ../configure: line 21: /dev/null: Permission denied [11:10] this IS WEIRD! [11:10] hehe [11:10] /dev/null is full :P [11:11] sparc obviously sucks [11:12] daniels: actually.. sparc was the only one building 2.6.10 ;) === ogra_ [~ogra@p508EBBFB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:32] mvo: udev was at fault [11:32] fabbione: thanks [11:32] the new version did started automatically [11:33] mangling all the permissions in /dev [11:33] uhhh, that sucks [11:36] ok, people with up-to-date hoary: does /usr/bin/python point to /etc/alternatives/python, or python2.4? [11:37] daniels: /usr/bin/python -> python2.4 [11:37] updated yesterday [11:37] mvo: ok, thanks [11:45] i guess pitti rooted himself [11:46] fabbione: the Australian way? === pitti [~martin@195.227.105.180] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:50] Treenaks: the goatse way === pitti_ [~martin@dialin-145-254-080-086.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === abelli [~abelli@84.222.38.7] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mvo__ [~Michael@ip181.135.1511I-CUD12K-01.ish.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pef [~loic@erodia.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:27] hello === abelli [~abelli@84.222.38.7] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pitti [~martin@dialin-145-254-080-086.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === abelli [~abelli@84.222.38.7] has joined #ubuntu-devel === x4m [~max@211-208.243.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mvo [~Michael@ip181.135.1511I-CUD12K-01.ish.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === macewan [~macewan@ip68-101-19-222.nc.hr.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === abelli_ [~abelli@84.222.38.70] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mdz [~mdz@69-167-148-207.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jdub [~jdub@home.waugh.id.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === abelli_ [~abelli@84.222.38.11] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:58] pitti: http://people.ubuntulinux.org/~fabbione/pasta/linguine_ai_frutti_di_mare/ [01:58] daniels: python does not use alternatives. [01:59] pitti: you will hate me for that [01:59] hey lamont [01:59] lamont: did you update any of the chroot on the buildd recently? [01:59] fabbione: as soon as my modem link downloaded the pics, I will :-) [01:59] lamont: if so be very careful about udev [01:59] lamont: for some reasons the new udev started the daemon (correctly), but it killed all the permissions on the devices [02:00] fabbione: the chroots autoupdate every morning. [02:00] including /dev/null [02:00] fabbione: bah, I doubt that I would eat that stuff. But enjoy! :-) [02:00] fabbione: but then, udev isn't in a proper chroot. [02:01] s/proper/proper buildd [02:01] lamont: iirc it was pulled in a dist-upgrade === SepheeBear [~SepheeBea@24-193-86-118.nyc.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === abelli [~abelli@84.222.38.11] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:05] pitti: you don't like seafood? [02:05] fabbione: not at all [02:05] pitti: oh god.. [02:05] it must suck to be you [02:05] :P [02:06] fabbione: I like fish, but not the other stuff (with many legs and so on) === ogra would take one or two plates of this yummy stuff [02:08] fabbione: most recent dist-upgrade (as of 15 seconds ago) pulled in apt 0.6.29. that is all. no udev [02:09] a buildd wouldn't get it [02:09] hmmm [02:09] it's depended upon by things like ubuntu-base, hal, etc. === fabbione thinks of a polluted chroot... [02:09] fabbione: that's what I'm thinking you have too.. [02:09] oh well [02:09] i will bootstrap another one === pitti_ [~martin@195.227.105.180] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:18] well, off to denver for the day - back later === sto [~sto@sto.developer.debian] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:43] fabbione: did you have a chance to try 2.6.10 on sparc? [02:45] not yet [02:45] it compiles.. that's all i know [02:47] fabbione: Do you have debs of the 2.6.10 build yet? [02:48] fabbione: my machine hangs when switching from openprom to the framebuffer.. can you let me know if it works for you :) [02:48] mjg59: i am going to upload in a hour or so [02:48] sjoerd: it might as well boot fine for me because i only have serial console [02:49] so fb would fail to load [02:49] that would be also interesting to know === mvo [~Michael@ip181.135.1511I-CUD12K-01.ish.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:58] Mithrandir: ping [03:02] pitti: [03:02] cd debian/config [03:02] for i in `find . -type f`; do cat $i | sed -e 's/SECURITY_CAPABILITIES=m/SECURITY_CAPABILITIES=y/g' > $i.new && mv $i.new $i; done [03:03] this will change all the config files to get capability inside the kernel === Capri [~makolb@217.188.237.110] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:03] fabbione: sounds like a quick and safe fix [03:03] i just uploaded 2.6.9-11 with that and the ip-conntrack ftp fix [03:03] pitti: yes. [03:04] there was another message on the lkml [03:04] fabbione: I think the worst that could happen to warty is that you get an error message at bootup if /etc/modules contains capability [03:04] ? [03:04] but nothing more than: It is difficult to exploit [03:04] pitti: i think so... yes [03:04] pitti: i would still ask Herbert and mdz to be 10000% sure [03:04] fabbione: do we need to fix Warty for this ip_conntrack issue? [03:04] pitti: well.. it's a memory leak when using fxp === pitti wonders how one can be more "sure" than 100% :-) [03:05] it's not urgent but if you are doing a USN, just stick it in [03:05] fabbione: can you please mail me and Herbert the patch? [03:05] pitti: you add a 100% for each arch and for each flavour of the kernel you are going to upload :-) [03:06] fabbione: ah, ok :-) [03:06] pitti: the patch for for the ftp? [03:06] yes [03:06] i think i gave it to you already [03:06] otherwise -11 will hit the archive in a few minutes [03:06] it's called fix-ip-conn* [03:06] fabbione: I don't have it yet, but I can just take it from the archive then [03:07] pitti: ok.. ok.. you lazy bastard :) [03:07] fabbione: ? [03:07] i will mail it [03:08] pitti: mail on the way [03:08] fabbione: thanks [03:09] sorry i didn't find Herbert mail on the fly [03:09] I forward it, np === magnon [~magnon@cD9088834.sdsl.catch.no] has joined #ubuntu-devel === amu [amu@amu.developer.debian] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:40] "Believe me or not, the Ubuntu Linux is wanted like hot bread here in Romania. :)" [04:42] yay [04:42] i belive === mako loves hot bread [04:42] how is the heating situation ? [04:44] the super fixed it yesterday :) [04:44] *so* much better === kent [~madhawks@82.145.136.74] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:48] yay [04:48] congrats :) [04:53] goody [04:53] 2.6.10 uploaded [04:53] =) === pitti [~martin@195.227.105.180] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:57] elmo_away: linux-source-2.6.10_2.6.10-1_source.changes is NEW [04:59] fabbione: oh, what did you add? [05:00] nothing.. it's a NEW package... [05:00] source linux-source-2.6.10 [05:00] that is not in the archive yet === seb128 [~seb128@ANancy-151-1-51-9.w83-196.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:01] it is simply new :-) [05:02] ok.. that's enough for today [05:02] cya tommorrow [05:02] oh [05:02] seb128: hey [05:02] fabbione: see you [05:02] Hi seb128 [05:03] libgtk2.0-bin is broken [05:03] hey [05:03] fabbione: since when ? [05:03] Setting up libgtk2.0-bin (2.6.0-0ubuntu1) ... [05:03] Updating the IM modules list for GTK+-2.4.0...done. [05:03] Updating the gdk-pixbuf loaders list for GTK+-2.4.0...done. [05:03] Failed to write cache file: No such file or directory [05:03] dpkg: error processing libgtk2.0-bin (--configure): [05:03] subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 [05:03] on a fresh chroot [05:03] not sure... [05:03] i noticed today on the sparc buildd logs [05:03] probably is something else that broke [05:04] not sure.. [05:04] hadn't have the time to check [05:04] hum ok === mvo__ [~Michael@ip181.135.1511I-CUD12K-01.ish.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === fabbione goes off [05:08] Kamion (or anyone else): where is the source for the installer documentation? [05:09] sivang ? === azeem_ [~mbanck@pD9EA4033.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:11] sivang: in #ubuntu is a guy who wants to help on hebrew localization .... nick: nakee [05:17] mako: debian-installer [05:18] Kamion: can you please put ubuntu-keyring into the base seed? [05:18] mvo__: already done [05:18] last night [05:18] Kamion: great, thanks! [05:18] mvo__: it's still in universe though, can't add it to debootstrap until elmo gets back [05:18] Kamion: thanks [05:20] Kamion: the doc team is talking about the installation manual in #ubuntu-doc [05:21] I'm off to buy some food, will be back in ~1h === KeyserSoze [unbound@pound.ifndef.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === KeyserSoze [unbound@pound.ifndef.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === KeyserSoze [unbound@pound.ifndef.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === KeyserSoze [unbound@pound.ifndef.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === KeyserSoze [unbound@pound.ifndef.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === KeyserSoze [unbound@pound.ifndef.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === KeyserSoze [unbound@pound.ifndef.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === KeyserSoze [unbound@pound.ifndef.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === KeyserSoze [unbound@pound.ifndef.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === KeyserSoze [unbound@pound.ifndef.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === KeyserSoze [unbound@pound.ifndef.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:34] wow. somebody is annoying. [05:35] nah [05:35] i know him personally.. it must have been some crack on the client [05:35] note that he was killing himself [05:35] heh. === mvo [~Michael@ip181.135.1511I-CUD12K-01.ish.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sivang [~sivang@box79162.elkhouse.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:48] daniels: is there any equivalent of http://www.xfree86.org/current/mouse.html for X.Org? [05:49] ogra: here [05:50] sivang: in #ubuntu was a guy who wants to help on hebrew localization .... nick: nakee [05:50] dunno if he is still there [05:50] ogra: let's see [05:50] :) [05:51] ogra: thanks :) [05:51] :) === _rene_ [~rene@dsl-213-023-035-006.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:35] sivang: were you the one talking about a central place for pictures of the ubuntu conference? [06:36] mako: i was asking for that (probably sivang as well) [06:36] mako: for ppl that dont have the bandwith or server place [06:39] ogra: well, i'm setting a wiki page to link to them [06:39] great :) [06:39] and perhaps some general soul will offer some server space [06:40] mako: also, why? [06:40] i would, but i pay the bandwith :( [06:40] ogra: i might have a place.. [06:41] ah, oj....i'm fine with my pcis on my server....just for others.... [06:41] mako: I can ask ChrisH also about the webspace [06:41] pics [06:44] http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/MataroPictures [06:44] Treenaks: you have pictures, right [06:44] Treenaks: you should link them up here: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/MataroPictures [06:45] mako: they are all here: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/ConferenceGalleries [06:47] ogra: ah, you are correct === jinty [~jinty@78.Red-213-96-3.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:48] mako: i thought you added a upload capable page to the wiki..... [06:48] mako: but that would be redundant.... [06:49] ogra: i can change the other one === jinty_ [~jinty@78.Red-213-96-3.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:49] yep, i think that would be cool, or move the links over (i like youre title more ) ;) [06:50] Treenaks: sorry, disregards me [06:55] So who broke the Wiki's "page not found" dialog? [06:57] smurfix: doesnt look broken here [06:57] smurfix: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/search?SearchableText=blah [06:59] Umm, just go to http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FooBarBazWhatever -- that looked better last week. === smurfix just added Amaya's gallery to ConferenceGalleries [07:01] smurfix: uuuh ugly [07:06] smurfix: (not amayas gallery....) [07:06] ogra: I kindof understood what you were referring to. ;-) [07:06] :) [07:12] smurfix: Israeli team page done. [07:12] smurfix: what about new moin, any nwes? [07:14] sivang: Just watch Debian bug #287006, or subscribe to moin in the PTS... [07:16] I'll install it as soon as it's available. [07:20] smurfix: thanks. [07:34] smurfix: that was me, see ubuntu-user [07:35] the old error page was pretty but useless, I thought [07:36] sm: The new error page looks like it belongs to a wholly different website, though [07:37] ok, I'll work on that [07:37] if you think it should be reverted until then, bring it up on the list and I'll obey consensus === zul [~chuck@zul.developer.gentoo] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:38] oh, I'm on -devel here aren't I.. we *make* consensus.. :) [07:39] beat heads in :) [07:42] sm: IMHO it makes sense to revert that change until your new page is ready, but it's your call. [07:42] smurfix: ok [07:42] it would help if I could get in to the ZMI root folder.. does anyone know why :8002 no longer responds ? === mxpxpod [~bryan@mxpxpod.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:13] fabbione: ping === zenrox [~zenrox@wbar7.sea1-4-10-181-189.sea1.dsl-verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === maskie [~maskie@196-30-110-222.uudial.uunet.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lamont looks around for daniels [08:39] or fabbione === mvo [~Michael@ip181.135.1511I-CUD12K-01.ish.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ironwolf [~ironwolf@63-228-63-108.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:51] smurfix: I've reinstated a simplified version with the plone skin [08:52] sm: looks very good now [08:52] thx [08:52] do you think it should do a search automatically ? [08:55] what would it search if you type: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FooBarBazWhatever [08:59] probably the wiki [08:59] I don't do that by default because of robots [08:59] but http://www.ubuntulinux.org/whatever seems to do a full site search already [09:00] so why not [09:01] yep, then do it... [09:11] ok done [09:11] Kamion: http://xorg.freedesktop.org/X11R6.8.1/doc/mouse.html [09:11] lamont: yeah, he fiddled the symlink himself, hence why it's normal. should be more robust. ;) [09:15] daniels: great to see you.... [09:17] daniels: i have a user question.....(will ask in #ubuntu) if you got a sec.... [09:18] ogra: yo [09:18] ogra: not really, sorry. just quickly checking everything before i run off. but put 'daniels:' at the start of the line and I'll check it when I get back later. [09:19] daniels: upgraded my flowerpower imac yesterday xorg doesnt work but gdm starts fine with a blyck screen....any hints ? no errors so far.... [09:22] daniels: there is no hurry for an answer, its one of my many "play around" boxes....could even wait till next year... === sm is now known as sm-away === zul [~chuck@CPE0006258ec6c2-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jdz_ [~jdz@69.49.156.181] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:53] daniels: thanks, updated for the next release === TD [~mike@foghorn.codeweavers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:07] any launchpad gurus here? === Burgundavia_ [~rasputin@199.60.108.71] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zenrox [~zenrox@wbar7.sea1-4-10-181-189.sea1.dsl-verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mjt [~mjt@nat.corpit.ru] has joined #ubuntu-devel === x4m [~max@99.158-200-80.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mvo__ [~Michael@ip181.135.1511I-CUD12K-01.ish.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mako is moderating and it's apprently been a while.. incoming older messages === TD [~mike@foghorn.codeweavers.com] has left #ubuntu-devel ["No] [11:49] daniels: I have a MANIFEST for hppa for you... [11:49] what files did you need again, and where do should they go in the source ball? [11:50] lamont: MANIFEST.hppa.new, just throw it over, unless you've constructed a MANIFEST.hppa.in, xserver-xorg.{docs,install}.hppa, and xlibmesa-dri.install.hppa :) [11:50] Kamion: no worries [11:51] ogra: ah, looks like a HorizSync/VertRefresh thing. file a bug with the output of sudo ddcprobe, lspci -v and /var/log/Xorg.0.log [11:51] daniels: fine, thanks... [11:52] daniels: people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/MANIFEST.hppa.new [11:53] daniels: what is the minimum that I need to do to construct a -ubuntu8.1 locally? [11:53] stage1 is kinda wedged waiting for xorg, you see. [11:55] daniels: is http://xorg.freedesktop.org/ a better URL to point to from the installation manual for X.Org in general than http://www.x.org/? [11:55] well, and gcc-3.3 and db4.3, but almost nothing cares about db4.3 yet [11:56] grr [11:57] lamont: look at the diff between *.i386 between xfree86 and xorg, use that to construct *.hppa. bear in mind that MANIFEST is split between MANIFEST.all.in and MANIFEST.hppa.in [11:58] lamont: so yeah, basically just work from XFree86 and look at the diffs between the i386 stuff between xfree86 and xorg, and also the diff between the MANIFEST.hppa{,.in} [11:58] Kamion: shit yes. www.x.org is an abysmal website, and nothing should ever point there. [11:58] alrighty [11:58] Kamion: cheers [11:58] daniels: and if you do it, when will it be available? :-) [11:58] Kamion: oh btw, /current/doc/ will be longer-lived [11:58] lamont: i don't start work again until the 3rd :) [11:59] daniels: ahead of you :) [11:59] Kamion: heh