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| enrico | Happy new year! | 04:54 |
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| ChrisH | Happy new one... | 12:06 |
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| enrico | ChrisH: happy happy! | 12:44 |
| abelli | enrico: buon anno | 12:54 |
| abelli | buon anno a todos | 12:54 |
| ChrisH | gracias | 12:55 |
| ChrisH | enrico: Have you ever tried building debian package on ubuntu? I'm trying pbuilder with "--distribution sid" but end up with dependency errors. | 12:56 |
| enrico | Buon anno! | 12:59 |
| enrico | ChrisH: uhm... no, haven't tried yet | 12:59 |
| enrico | however, I'm puzzled by your case | 12:59 |
| enrico | If it's pbuilder, it should be distribution-independent, as it creates a chroot | 12:59 |
| ChrisH | enrico: That's why I thought, too. Do you use pbuilder? Or do you have a sid installation? | 01:07 |
| enrico | I have a sid installation, but I generally don't use pbuilder (I lack a local mirror and I had a slow laptop) | 01:11 |
| enrico | Now I have a better laptop, but I still lack a local mirror... | 01:11 |
| ChrisH | enrico: so you just reboot into sid, update it and build there? | 01:12 |
| enrico | ChrisH: (I generally use sid, but don't tell anyone :) | 01:12 |
| ChrisH | enrico: Argh, the dilemma again. :) | 01:12 |
| enrico | My current problem is trying to share the boot partition between sid and ubuntu, since the rest of the disk is a big LVM volume group | 01:13 |
| enrico | Once I get to do that, I can have nice elastic partitions with whatever I want hanging around happily together in the hard drive | 01:14 |
| enrico | If it weren't for the different kernel, I could run ubuntu in a chroot | 01:14 |
| ChrisH | You could? Even for X stuff? :) | 01:18 |
| ChrisH | I'd like to have one system for all kinds of work. Like Ubuntu in an X window in Sid. Ubuntu ist really nice at work and for the family. But it sucks if you need to do Sid packages. | 01:19 |
| ChrisH | I could not even get two partitions working. debian/lilo and ubuntu/grub successfully managed to kill the other distributions boot sector | 01:27 |
| enrico | ChrisH: sure! Even for X stuff | 01:32 |
| enrico | startx -- :1 | 01:32 |
| ChrisH | enrico: perhaps that's a good way to build sid packages that use X in ubuntu... | 01:33 |
| enrico | ChrisH: you can deboostrap a Debian sid system in a directory and chroot into it | 01:33 |
| enrico | ChrisH: BTW, Hooray for the new DAM! | 01:34 |
| enrico | ChrisH: have you heard? | 01:34 |
| ChrisH | enrico: no... who? | 01:34 |
| ChrisH | enrico: where did you read that? on debian-flame@l.d.o? | 01:34 |
| enrico | ChrisH: (suspance...) | 01:36 |
| enrico | ChrisH: .... | 01:36 |
| enrico | :) | 01:36 |
| enrico | ChrisH: http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2004/12/msg00277.html | 01:36 |
| enrico | TA-DAH! | 01:36 |
| ChrisH | Joerg... nice. :) | 01:36 |
| enrico | 9 new people got an account yesterday | 01:37 |
| ChrisH | I'm no position 5 :) | 01:41 |
| ChrisH | s/no/on/ | 01:41 |
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| enrico | ChrisH: I know you'll make it! :) | 01:48 |
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| abelli | enrico: do you use pterm? | 01:48 |
| ChrisH | enrico: :) | 01:50 |
| enrico | abelli: uh, no, just gnome-terminal | 01:52 |
| abelli | because i think i found something similar to a bug | 01:53 |
| abelli | if u press "" | 01:53 |
| abelli | and then arrows up-down repeatedly ... the screen gets deleted char by char.. | 01:54 |
| enrico | Cute! | 01:55 |
| enrico | FAIL A BAG! | 01:55 |
| abelli | ya | 01:55 |
| abelli | ehehe | 01:55 |
| enrico | reportbug is DA ZING! | 01:55 |
| abelli | ahah | 01:55 |
| abelli | verflixt | 01:56 |
| enrico | hello | 02:52 |
| enrico | I did svn up, then yelp usersguide.xml | 02:55 |
| enrico | but yelp tells me it can't open the document | 02:55 |
| enrico | Curious. If I close other yelps then try again it works | 02:55 |
| === Kinnison yawns a good afternoon to everyone | ||
| ChrisH | Kinnison: happy gnu one 2u2 | 02:58 |
| Kinnison | Hippy New Beer ChrisH | 02:59 |
| abelli | ciao Kinnison | 03:04 |
| === Kinnison hands out 2005 huggles | ||
| === enrico hands out 2005 cookies | ||
| abelli | Kinnison: did you receive the email? | 03:06 |
| Kinnison | abelli: yes; and I replied too | 03:06 |
| abelli | is it a known bug.. or isnt it a bug at all? | 03:06 |
| Kinnison | You've not given me enough data to know if it's a known bug or not yet ;-) | 03:07 |
| abelli | ahh..ok | 03:07 |
| abelli | more than photos.. what do you want? ;) | 03:07 |
| abelli | actually i had a thought about that.. | 03:07 |
| abelli | because you anglo-saxons... | 03:08 |
| abelli | you have such a restricted alphabet ;) | 03:08 |
| Kinnison | Charmed I'm sure | 03:09 |
| abelli | ... | 03:10 |
| abelli | what do you mean "if you have one and not the other"? | 03:10 |
| Kinnison | If you have my font choice; but not a unicode locale; or a unicode locale but not my font choice | 03:10 |
| abelli | ok thank you Kinnison | 03:11 |
| abelli | kinnison what's the pterm way for gterminal's --working-directory | 03:12 |
| Kinnison | How do you mean? | 03:12 |
| Kinnison | It may not have one | 03:13 |
| abelli | arghh.. | 03:13 |
| abelli | Perl.. Power.. | 03:13 |
| sivang | Kinnison: happy new year! | 03:23 |
| sivang | and to all the doc tam | 03:23 |
| abelli | sivang: thank you for leaving me out | 03:24 |
| Kinnison | hey sivang ;-) | 03:24 |
| sivang | abelli: huh? | 03:24 |
| Kinnison | 03:24 | |
| sivang | ! | 03:24 |
| abelli | i thik my pterm has really some major problem | 03:25 |
| Kinnison | sivang: How would you translate then? | 03:26 |
| sivang | Kinnison: my freind :) | 03:27 |
| Kinnison | I see | 03:27 |
| sivang | it's like, "Greetings, My freind" | 03:27 |
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| abelli | sivang: could you please come again with those characters | 03:29 |
| abelli | ;) | 03:29 |
| sivang | abelli: ! | 03:29 |
| sivang | :) | 03:29 |
| abelli | argh.. | 03:29 |
| sivang | translation: no problem at all! | 03:30 |
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| froud | African Greetings | 05:29 |
| froud | anybody tried the makefile. I am eager know if there are any problems | 05:30 |
| hornbeck | I have not tried it | 05:31 |
| froud | hornbeck, do give it a test | 05:53 |
| froud | svn up | 05:53 |
| froud | make ug | 05:53 |
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| sivang | Why do I need channel op to change topic? | 07:24 |
| sivang | Isn't this a cummunity channel? :) | 07:24 |
| === sivang wishes to change the topic back to the origianl one. | ||
| sivang | ChrisH: could you give me op privs for the channel ? | 07:26 |
| froud | sivang, ChrisH is annoyed with me when I changed the subject | 07:33 |
| sivang | froud: yes, but I already asked him about chaning the subject back to the original and he agreed. | 07:34 |
| froud | Oh well | 07:34 |
| froud | sivang, hows your shell scripting | 07:35 |
| sivang | froud: I can pull a couple of them when I need it , a bit rusty at the moment, but working closely to a reference I manage :) | 07:36 |
| froud | How do I get this type of variable to work | 07:37 |
| froud | VERSION=`cat VERSION` | 07:37 |
| froud | tar -czf ubuntu-docs-$(VERSION)-$(RELEASE).tar.gz dist | 07:37 |
| froud | I get | 07:37 |
| froud | Compressing source files ... | 07:38 |
| froud | tar -czf ubuntu-docs-`cat VERSION`-1.tar.gz dist | 07:38 |
| froud | tar: Options `-[0-7] [lmh] ' not supported by *this* tar | 07:38 |
| sivang | something bad with your backtiques | 07:38 |
| sivang | lemme check | 07:38 |
| sivang | thsi was supposed to work I think. | 07:38 |
| froud | that is what I thought | 07:38 |
| sivang | TEST="`cat VERSION`" | 07:52 |
| sivang | echo $TEST | 07:52 |
| sivang | check if this works | 07:52 |
| froud | sivang, nice. thanks :-) | 07:56 |
| sivang | froud: no prob :) | 07:57 |
| froud | ubuntu-docs-WartyWarthog-1.tar.gz | 07:57 |
| sivang | yes | 07:57 |
| sivang | if you're unsure, just have the bash do double qutes expansion which means it tries to evaluate eveything inside, | 07:57 |
| sivang | so then you get the value of the backtiques as if it was a var value. | 07:58 |
| sivang | plus. TIMTOWTDI | 07:58 |
| sivang | :) | 07:58 |
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| froud | cool, will this also work if I define SHELL = /bin/sh | 07:59 |
| ChrisH | sivang: I do know Perl. So I know that acronym. :) | 08:03 |
| sivang | when you put literals to vars like that, I doesn't do double quote expansion - it just uses the literal as a value. | 08:03 |
| froud | sivang, you busy now | 08:30 |
| froud | I want you to test the makefile dist target | 08:30 |
| froud | Any takers for testing | 08:38 |
| froud | ? | 08:38 |
| sivang | I can, sec. | 08:41 |
| froud | ok | 08:41 |
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| sivang | froud: ok, I can svn'd up | 08:49 |
| froud | yes, a few small issues but yes | 08:50 |
| sivang | I did | 08:50 |
| froud | then do | 08:50 |
| froud | make dist | 08:50 |
| sivang | yes? | 08:50 |
| sivang | what does the export parm to svn do? | 08:50 |
| froud | brings a clean printine tree of HEAD | 08:51 |
| froud | pristine | 08:51 |
| froud | we dont want the .svn admin folders etc in dist | 08:51 |
| sivang | ok, good | 08:51 |
| sivang | It' finished | 08:51 |
| froud | did it suceed | 08:52 |
| sivang | has it build the whole thing? | 08:52 |
| sivang | so fast???? | 08:52 |
| sivang | :) | 08:52 |
| froud | this is what we need for the yelp part | 08:52 |
| froud | not sure if the sturcture etc is goo dfor yelp | 08:52 |
| sivang | so it didn't create html | 08:52 |
| sivang | or pdf or anything | 08:52 |
| froud | no | 08:53 |
| froud | you can run make all | 08:53 |
| sivang | did it register anything ? | 08:53 |
| froud | no | 08:53 |
| froud | not that far yet | 08:53 |
| froud | :-) | 08:53 |
| sivang | I am going there and I think I will eventually have an answer | 08:54 |
| sivang | :) | 08:54 |
| froud | I just create a tarball of the src | 08:54 |
| froud | xml only | 08:54 |
| froud | I dont like the way it is creating the tarball | 08:55 |
| sivang | why not? | 08:55 |
| froud | it has the wrong folder and a copy ofthe targ.za inside the tar.gz :-) | 08:56 |
| froud | I am gonna make a change | 08:56 |
| froud | sivang, do svn up | 09:01 |
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| froud | delete the dist folder | 09:02 |
| froud | and old tar.gz | 09:02 |
| froud | then do make dist | 09:02 |
| froud | should be much better | 09:02 |
| sivang | ok, I just did that | 09:05 |
| sivang | I rm the dist folder | 09:05 |
| sivang | and reran make dist | 09:06 |
| froud | ok | 09:06 |
| froud | I am not sure of the structure etc. | 09:08 |
| froud | how were the docs packaged last time | 09:08 |
| froud | perhaps I should also build the HTML is ubuntu-docs | 09:11 |
| froud | perhaps the structure should be ubuntu-docs | 09:12 |
| froud | [VERSION] -[release] / | 09:12 |
| froud | xml/ | 09:13 |
| froud | userguide/ | 09:13 |
| froud | quickguide/ | 09:13 |
| froud | faqguide/ | 09:13 |
| froud | faqguide/ | 09:13 |
| froud | something like that or the xml/ should be called yelp/ | 09:14 |
| froud | what do others think? | 09:14 |
| froud | what about | 09:15 |
| froud | ubuntu-docs/ | 09:15 |
| froud | xml/ | 09:15 |
| froud | html/ | 09:15 |
| froud | userguide/ | 09:15 |
| froud | quickguide/ | 09:15 |
| froud | faqguide/ | 09:15 |
| froud | or | 09:16 |
| froud | ubuntu-docs/ | 09:16 |
| froud | src/ | 09:16 |
| froud | html/ | 09:16 |
| froud | userguide/ | 09:16 |
| froud | quickguide/ | 09:16 |
| froud | faqguide/ | 09:16 |
| sivang | we would have to wait and see what pople thik | 09:17 |
| froud | another | 09:17 |
| froud | ubuntu-docs/ | 09:17 |
| froud | $(VERSION)-$(RELEASE) | 09:17 |
| froud | src/ | 09:17 |
| froud | html/ | 09:17 |
| froud | userguide/ | 09:17 |
| froud | quickguide/ | 09:17 |
| froud | faqguide/ | 09:17 |
| froud | the last one is good since we can uninstall easily | 09:18 |
| sivang | what is the purpose of the ubuntnu-docs dir? | 09:19 |
| === sivang sees alot of redundency in the current staructure. | ||
| froud | that is what goes in the tarball | 09:20 |
| sivang | you mean a tarball of installation on other system than ubuntu? | 09:20 |
| froud | no I mean ubuntu | 09:20 |
| froud | /usr/share/doc/ubuntu-docs | 09:21 |
| froud | Install everything there right? | 09:22 |
| sivang | yes | 09:23 |
| froud | so the root folder in the tarball must be ubuntu-docs, right? | 09:23 |
| froud | This path should contain the src and html, right? | 09:24 |
| froud | I am thinking that during an upgrade it will be good to have /usr/share/doc/ubuntu-docs/$(VERSION)-$(RELEASE) | 09:25 |
| froud | that way we can uninstall old docs and or update to point to new $(VERSION)-$(RELEASE) | 09:26 |
| froud | ? | 09:26 |
| === froud sees people need time to think. Going to watch a movie. | ||
| froud | b c'ing ya | 09:27 |
| froud | sivang, please test the make targets and if there are bugs make bugzilla's and assign them to me. | 09:28 |
| froud | sean@inwords.co.za | 09:28 |
| sivang | c | 09:30 |
| sivang | c'ya | 09:30 |
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