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mdzhello, lunchpad folks12:19
mdzhow many of you are running Hoary now?12:19
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jblackheya spiv12:41
jblackmdz: I am12:41
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kikosalgado, no stub.02:00
kikoemail, I guess02:00
kikoand I'm outta here, catch you tomorrow02:00
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dilysMerge to thelove@canonical.com/dists--bazaar--1.1: new build (patch-39)03:30
dilysMerge to thelove@canonical.com/bazaar--devo--1.1: tweak lints output for adhoc scripting (patch-68, robert.collins@canonical.com)03:30
dilysMerge to thelove@canonical.com/dists--bazaar--1.1: new build (patch-40)04:07
dilysMerge to thelove@canonical.com/bazaar--devo--1.1: refactor the inventory linting and status generation to allow separate invocation, use this to allow status to lint before doing changes, but to still show the lint output after the changes. Fixes: bug #4581 (patch-69, robert.collins@canonical.com)04:07
dilysMerge to thelove@canonical.com/bazaar-debian--debian--1.1: merge in README.Debian updates - bug #4582 (patch-5, robert.collins@canonical.com)04:33
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dilysMerge to thelove@canonical.com/bazaar-debian--debian--1.1: whoops, its janruary, not april (patch-6)05:22
dilysMerge to thelove@canonical.com/dists--bazaar--1.1: new build (patch-41)05:30
dilysMerge to thelove@canonical.com/bazaar--devo--1.1: updating tree-version help to be inline with actual usage (new version instead of dir) (patch-70, jblack@gnuarch.org)05:30
dilysMerge to thelove@canonical.com/dists--bazaar--1.1: new build (patch-42)05:45
dilysMerge to thelove@canonical.com/bazaar--devo--1.1: use a default uid for archive transactions when required. uids are not unique to instances of baz, so this is safe. fixes: #3220 (patch-71, robert.collins@canonical.com)05:46
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dilysMerge to thelove@canonical.com/dists--bazaar--1.1: new build (patch-43)08:03
dilysMerge to thelove@canonical.com/bazaar--devo--1.1: Removed 4 commands (archive-setup|make-(category|branch|version) (patch-72, jblack@gnuarch.org)08:03
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dilysMerge to thelove@canonical.com/dists--bazaar--1.1: new build (patch-44)08:30
dilysMerge to thelove@canonical.com/bazaar--devo--1.1: Fixed several commands to send user to status --lint instead of tree-lint (patch-73, jblack@gnuarch.org)08:31
jblacklooks like the sftp stuff for the supermirror is almost done10:54
dilysMerge to thelove@canonical.com/dists--bazaar--1.1: new build (patch-45)11:08
dilysMerge to thelove@canonical.com/bazaar--devo--1.1: fix memory leak in merge and reduce the number of warnings given. Fixes: #4756 (patch-74, robert.collins@canonical.com)11:08
KinnisonAre we meant to hold general chatter on here about launchpad; or on launchpad-dev?11:09
lifelessthis is the public channel.11:10
lifelessfollow your nose.11:10
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KinnisonOkay11:10
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jblackask stevea. He'd know11:11
SteveA-i vote for more caffiene11:12
jblackodd that you'd say that11:12
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jblackkinnison: so I guess whichever one has the most coffee in it?11:13
=== Kinnison nods and goes caffeine hunting while his desktop merges all the changes since spain
=== Kinnison would like to thank the baz team. It keeps getting better :-)
jblackI'm glad you like it11:17
jordiKinnison: last night I dreamed that I signed all the pending keys.11:19
Kinnisonjordi: Heh11:19
jordiKinnison: bbut that was after you mailed me your script (which had coloured letters, and was a paper).11:20
KinnisonHow do you know about *that* script?! It's meant to be a secret11:20
jordiThen suddenly you were sitting right next to me and told me how a tricky part worked.11:20
jordithe coloured script, or the keysigning script?11:21
Kinnisonthe coloured script on paper11:21
jordiTHE POWER OF DREAMS, MAN11:21
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jordihehehe11:21
=== carlos wants also that script :-P
KinnisonMy real publically available signing scripts are in a baz archive11:22
jordiif it's not coloured, I don't want it. You can't have second class stuff once you've had the REAL THING in your hand.11:23
jordiKinnison: url?11:23
Kinnisonthe baz archive is at http://arch.digital-scurf.org/ds-arch@digital-scurf.org--laptop-2004/11:24
Kinnisonthe thing to check out is ds-arch@digital-scurf.org--laptop-2004/dists--keysigning--011:24
jordithanks11:26
Kinnisonrun the script in there11:26
Kinnisonand then follow the readme in ksp-tools11:26
KinnisonI've only tested it on x8611:26
jordiok11:27
carlosKinnison: I will test it in ppc ;-)11:27
KinnisonI know it will fail on ppc11:27
jordidoes that work with baz only? or will tla grok?11:28
Kinnisoncarlos: if you want to provide the patch to onak to make it work then I'd be grateful11:28
jordicarlos: fix it :)11:28
Kinnisonjordi: erm; I *think* it's a baz archive11:28
lifelessjordi: why not use baz ?11:28
carlosKinnison: dude, it's just a script to sign keys!!11:28
jordiI still don't have baz available in my system.11:28
carlosKinnison: what are you using?11:28
lifelessjordi: what is your system ?11:28
jordicarlos: it is _*the*_ script.11:28
Kinnisoncarlos: I use portions of onak (a gpg keyserver) to provide me with a mechanism to strip unwanted sigs from the keys I sign11:28
jordilifeless: I mean, not available as in not installed :)11:29
KinnisonSo that when you sign the key of someone with 15 uids and 1000s of sigs; you still only send out teeny emails11:29
lifelesswell then, thats easy to fix.11:29
carlosKinnison: ok11:29
carloslifeless: is there any way to add a feature to baz so it fetchs a gpg key when needed to check the archive signatures?11:31
lifelesscarlos: edit your default cjec script.11:32
lifelessgpg can do that already11:32
Kinnisonedit =default.check to contain '--keyserver-options auto-key-retrieve'11:33
Kinnison(without the ''s)11:33
carlosthat's dangerous with evolution11:33
carlosdangerous == takes ages to be able to read some mails11:34
lifelesscarlos: its dangerous everywhere.11:34
Kinnisonwhy would editing ~/.arch-params/signing/=default.check be dangerous for evolution?11:34
lifelesscarlos: and you just asked for baz to do the same :)11:34
carlosKinnison: oh, I thought you were talking about the global configuration file11:35
carloslifeless: but I don't add new archives too often 11:35
KinnisonNo, I'd have said edit .gnupg/gpg.conf if I had ;-)11:35
carloslifeless: I don't want to check all the signatures of the mails I receive by mail :-)11:35
carlosKinnison: ;-)11:36
lifelesscarlos: its got nothing to do with new archives.11:36
SteveA-carlos: have we got schooltool / schoolbell in rosetta yet?11:36
lifelesscarlos: we will be overhauling the gpg stuff though.11:36
lifelessdefault.check is just the solution for now.11:36
carloslifeless: ok11:36
carlosSteveA-: not yet11:36
carlosSteveA-: I'm not doing any big import (yet) until we fix the transaction problem11:37
SteveA-carlos: there's a guy called David Suarez who wants to translate it into spanish11:37
carlosSteveA-: we have already about 8 imports blocked in Rosetta at the moment11:37
SteveA-I've forwarded you an email11:37
carlosoohh, shit, I forgot it. Sorry :-(11:38
SteveA-carlos: I'll be looking into that after breakfast/emailtriage11:38
carlosok11:38
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carlosSteveA-: hmm, it's another mail11:38
carlosSteveA-: I forgot the one you sent me last week11:39
carlostime to answer both11:39
SteveA-what did i send last week?11:39
SteveA-tom hoffman is the schooltool project leader11:39
SteveA-actually, he might be online (possibly).  #schooltool  th1a11:39
SteveA-he'll be around later if he isn't now11:40
SteveA-it would be great to get the schooltool translators involved in rosetta11:40
carlosSteveA-: you sent me an email from a Brazilian guy that was interested on Rosetta11:40
SteveA-oh, okay11:40
carlosSteveA-: We need a way to mark the projects that are using Rosetta directly to get translations == maintainers get the translations from Rosetta directly11:41
carloswe have already pmount, bazaar and synaptic11:41
SteveA-carlos: i guess so.  this isn't so much to do with what translation data is available, but about the intentions of the maintainer11:43
carlosright11:43
SteveA-how about a mail to launchpad@11:44
carlosa mail to launchpad@ and a bug to malone for the doap product11:45
SteveA-lifeless: awesome!  non-star merging!  I'll look for an opportunity to try this out.11:47
lifelessSteveA: note the caveat at the bottom11:52
SteveAi made sure to read every word11:52
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Kinnisonlifeless: Are you still around?12:46
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dilysNew Malone bug #188: "Email address used to login must be available in launchpad", submitted by Guilerme Salgado02:27
dilyshttps://dogfood.ubuntu.com/malone/bugs/18802:27
SteveAdaf: hi.  can you move dilys to #launchpad-dev02:29
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kiko-fudleeeemont04:12
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lamont_rkiko-fud: yes?06:16
dilysMerge to rocketfuel@canonical.com/launchpad--devel--0: Initial support for adding milestones to products. TODO: property security config so that only product maintainer can add milestones, integration with malone, and page testing when UI stabilizes. (patch-1145, brad.bollenbach@canonical.com)06:39
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dilysBug 1964 resolved: Breadcrumbs don't work when virtual hosting08:29
dilyshttps://bugzilla.warthogs.hbd.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=196408:29
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ddaaelmo: do you know how importd@galapagos is supposed to access "sftp://hoover@auckland/srv/arch.no-name-yet.com/www/apt@arch.ubuntu.com"?09:23
ddaaif no, can you set up something simple, like a passphraseless ssh key?09:24
ddaathx09:24
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lifelessmorning09:27
lifelessKinnison: pong09:27
jblackyou're up early09:29
lifelessyah09:29
lifelessddaa: thats already in place09:29
jblackI'm just wrapping up my report to Makr09:30
lifeless?09:30
Kinnisonlifeless: I had an amusing baz merge warning earlier on my laptop09:31
Kinnisonlifeless: Something about some missing logs09:31
jblackMark asked a handful of questions. "What's the state of the supermirror", 'what do people think?', 'how was the migration', etc.09:31
jblackso I wrote up a detailed report for him and you. What we have, where we are, where we're going (literally and figuratively), how we achieve our goals from here, etc.09:32
lifelesscool09:32
jblackwhich is fun for me. 09:32
jblackI get a perverted sense of happiness when I write up detailed summaries. 09:33
jblackIts like coke for me09:33
kikolike a coke orgy even.09:37
Kinnisonlifeless: How's the performance of bazaar on kernel-sized trees?09:38
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lifelessKinnison: for me, acceptable but not blazing.09:38
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lifelessbut some folk have it suck really badly. like REALLY badly.09:42
lifelessand we're trying to track down what makes for the suckage.09:42
KinnisonCool09:45
lifelessKinnison: what version of baz was that ?10:02
lifelessif it was the one before you apt-get updated.. then yes, I know, it was a bug, that warning should only rarely occur.10:02
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KinnisonOkay; it was a baz from before xmas10:12
lifelessKinnison: we were scanning all the history of the local tree in one hit. STUPID10:16
Kinnisonheh10:18
ddaalifeless: I just tested "sftp hoover@auckland/srv/arch.no-name-yet.com/www/apt@arch.ubuntu.com" on importd@galapagos, and got asked to confirm the rsa fingerprint and then got asked for a passwd.10:27
ddaaWhich pretty strongly suggests it is _not_ setup already.10:28
ddaaelmo: okay sorry for the noise it's setup, I just do not know how to use sftp :-/10:38

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