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vinscihi all04:54
vinsciI'm considering the possibility of using and extending Malone as a base for another application.04:54
vinsciI haven't been able to find the source code though, who should I talk to about getting that?04:55
KinnisonMalone's source code is not public currently as far as I understand it04:56
vinsciHence the question, who to talk to?04:57
KinnisonMark Shuttleworth I guess04:58
SteveAvinsci: what's your application?04:59
vinscihi stevea, thought you might be at the top of the list :)05:00
vinsciWe're hoping to build a workflow/agenda system for public administrations (local governments)05:01
SteveAwhy do you think the malone sourcecode would help with that?05:02
SteveAhi vinsci.  did we meet at europython?05:02
vinscias a fairly zope x3 app, it ought to provide a good example05:03
vinsciyes, we met in Gothenburg05:03
SteveAare you planning to use zodb or to use a relational database?05:06
vinsciofficially undecided, but I don't want to spend the rest off my life writing obj/rel mappers05:06
SteveAdoes that mean, probably zodb?05:07
vinscithe flow of issues/agendas in a public administration is actually not all that far from bug tracking. The initial use would be to use it as a base for prototyping purposes and as a demo base for the financers (we're seeking public financing)05:07
vinsciyes, but through zodb, we can of course use an sql storage if we like05:07
SteveAi'll tell you a bit about launchpad.  i can't speak to what kind of access to the source code is available for people outside of canonical.  you'd need to talk to mark about that.  there is an intention to make the launchpad code open source at some point in the future, but exactly when or what the circumstances would be for that is totally undecided at the moment.05:09
SteveAlaunchpad stores most of its data in a relational database.  we use sqlobject as an OR tool.  we're not particularly using the zodb.05:09
SteveAalso, malone is far more complex than it would be if it were just a bug tracker05:10
SteveAit is meant to deal with the complexities of different packaged versions of software, and how the bugs in such things are interrelated05:12
SteveAif your main task at the moment is making a mock-up application to demonstrate the ideas and get funding, i'd suggest putting something together using zope3's schemas and autogenerated forms, as a regular zope3 application05:13
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vinscithanks, SteveA05:56
SteveAmaybe look at hiring stephan richter to work with you on building the prototype.  he's good at quickly building proofs-of-concept05:58
vinscibeen playing with sqlobject from a standalone py app and as far as mappers go, it seemed quite usable05:58
vinsciadding him to the list ;)06:02
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