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incorrectany new machines would have been different hardware12:00
rexiboymy system is stuffed after a dist-upgrade :( need some helpppp...12:00
exltfai and the kernel dont care - your nodes could all be different hardware as far as linux is concerned12:00
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rexiboyany developers here?12:02
exltwhat language, rexiboy?12:03
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kentrexiboy, whats the problem (im not a developer, but i might be able to help..  who knows)12:04
rexiboyafter doing a dist-upgrade it came up with errors and now I can't login12:04
rexiboygot the error but don't know if I can paste it here12:05
exltpastebin.com12:05
rexiboynever tried it but will give it a go12:05
kipodhow can i reinstall a package12:06
exltworks a treat :)12:06
JDahlkipod, you use dpkg --purge to remove it along with and setup information... why do you need to?12:06
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rexiboyhttp://pastebin.com/22378812:07
rexiboyit is nice :)12:07
HrdwrBoBapt-get remove package12:08
HrdwrBoBapt-get install package12:08
rexiboykent, exlt , did you have a look?12:09
kipodthanks JDahl  i want to reinstall nvidia drivers12:09
kentrexiboy, I got a conflict sort of like that one, but with another package, when i upgraded to hoary.  I removed one of the packages (and all its dependency) and then upgraded and reinstalled the packages i removed.  that worked for me :)12:09
kipodJDahl,  i found oout that i can't run 3d ... since i have installed KDE12:09
rexiboyyeh but which one? :)12:09
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kentreformed, for me, it was something with kdelibs.12:10
exltrexiboy, not base ;)12:10
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JDahlkipod, normally you shouldnt have to remove and reinstall packages... the problem is probably somewhere else12:10
rexiboy:) was not going there12:10
kentrexiboy, well, first try with this one, since its one of the packages that conflicts. xorg-driver-synaptic12:10
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exltPeo-[hawaii]  - please disable your auto-away messages12:11
rexiboybase-files_3.1.0ubuntu_amd64.deb?12:12
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ions|Gnoppixhow can I ssh into a ubuntu/gnoppix system?12:14
rexiboymight just get rid of 64 and put i386 with the 686 kernel, maybe a drop in performance but all the software will work... any thoughts about this?12:15
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kipodJDahl,  yeah i know but i don't have the power to loook for the problem... ( i even don't   know were to start to look )12:16
VirtualDarKnessis there someone who tried mepis too?12:17
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rexiboykent, what are you running?12:23
ions|Gnoppixanyone here know how to get sshd up and running on the ubuntu Live Disk?12:23
MaddMarshall2kshould i take beginning c programming at the community college12:23
MaddMarshall2kim scurred12:23
HrdwrBoBscurred?12:24
MaddMarshall2kyes scurred12:24
VirtualDarKnessscarred maybe12:24
rexiboyi go with scarred :)12:24
MaddMarshall2kindeed... i dont approve of such talk on a regular basis... only when bored12:24
rexiboywhy c?12:24
MaddMarshall2kthats all there is12:25
MaddMarshall2khehe i was looking for a linux class12:25
MaddMarshall2kdont want to learn unix12:25
ions|Gnoppixis there a way to get sshd running on the Ubuntu Live Disk?12:25
kentrexiboy, Ubunto  (Hoary) on this machine.  I have no problems now,  but i got a conflict with a file when i upgraded from warty.12:25
rexiboypython?12:25
jdubions|Gnoppix: apt-get install openssh-server12:25
rexiboykent, did you install the 686 kernel?12:26
genkent, which file12:26
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ions|Gnoppixdoesn't work jdub12:26
genapt-get update12:27
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ions|GnoppixE: Method http has died unexpectedly!12:27
ions|Gnoppixfrom apt-get update12:27
kentgen,  i dont know which file, but it was something that came from kdelibs*.12:27
genwasn't talking to you gnoppix but ok12:27
decklinis there anything special in ubuntu's debootstrap, or can just use debootstrap in debian to install a ubuntu chroot?12:27
snarfis there a way to update ubuntu? you know, for security fixes and whatever12:28
ions|Gnoppixheh, gnoppix had suggested the same thing at the same time so I did it12:28
ions|Gnoppixsudo apt-get update12:28
snarfcool12:28
kentsnarf,  make sure you have the security-fixes enabled with synaptic.  Then just upgrade.12:28
ions|Gnoppixyeah you can use synaptic as well12:29
snarfi ordered some of the free ubuntu cds.. how long does it take to ship? (usa)12:29
RibsFOREVER!12:29
ions|Gnoppixwhy wouldn't sshd be installed by default?12:30
ions|Gnoppixsnarf: I got mine in about 10 weeks12:30
ions|GnoppixI ordered 1012:30
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jdubions|Gnoppix: we have a no-listening-ports-by-default policy, and not everyone wants an ssh server12:31
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rexiboydid anyone here used ubuntu64 and than moved to 386?12:31
ions|Gnoppixoh12:31
snarfok thanks12:31
ions|Gnoppixok well here's the prob, I have the Live disk on an XP machine that I'd like to move about 12 gigs of data to backup then install ubuntu12:32
ions|Gnoppixany ideas how?  I was gonna sftp it onto my gentoo box12:32
Altkei edited my /etc/samba/smb.conf file and (correctly) added a share and changed my workgroup.  i ran testparm and it said it was all good.  but i cant access the smb share on another computer.  do i have to enable it somehow?12:32
rexiboyions|Gnoppix, get another hard drive12:32
ions|Gnoppixugh12:32
ions|GnoppixI'd rather not12:32
ions|Gnoppixsince I don't have an extra12:32
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ions|Gnoppixthat solution costs money12:33
rexiboy:)12:33
rexiboynot expensive though12:33
ions|Gnoppixalthough if I had one I'd be done by now12:33
ions|Gnoppix2 computers on a local network should be able to transfer data12:34
kentright now i think that the only visable bug/problem with Hoary is that the weather applet in gnome tells me its 72 degrees celsius in Malmo (sweden). And thats way wrong. I have tried changing to farenheit, it seems way to much there aswell.12:34
rexiboyions|Gnoppix, how big is your drive?12:34
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ions|Gnoppixone is 120 this one is 4012:34
MaddMarshall2kis there a freely available version of wine or something that will run photoshop?12:34
rexiboykent, maybe it's not wrong?? and we are going to hear about it soon... :)12:34
Ribserm12:34
ions|Gnoppixthe 120 is busy and I'm not  removing it12:34
Ribsyou mean, wine? :)12:35
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Altke72C is pretty hot.. that's hotter than hot water out of a tap :p12:35
luc1f3rWhat is a common file sharing program for linux?12:35
kipodfor some resone i can't run 3d screemsavers and games, what do i need to  check ( i  have installed nVidia drivers and i have configured my xorg file )12:35
luc1f3rsomething for downloading mp3s12:35
sid77MaddMarshall2k, The GIMP ;-)12:35
kentMaddMarshall2k, wine is free. Just install it (i dont know if its in Ubuntus archive, but it can be installed in other ways if not..)12:35
rexiboyions|Gnoppix, can you partition it? create one at the end move the data, say goodbye to xpp...12:35
ions|Gnoppixhmm I dunno could I?  I don't want to lose this data12:36
kipodhere is the err i get when i try 2 run tuxracer o remove and reinstall packages... the problem is probably somewhere else12:36
rexiboykipod, when you first logon do you get the nvidia splash?12:36
ions|GnoppixI *can't* lose this data12:36
kipodrexiboy,  yeah i do12:36
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kipod*Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".12:36
rexiboymmm12:36
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kentgodnight.12:37
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kipodkent, g'night12:37
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ions|GnoppixI guess I could sftp into the Gentoo box and put files there from here since I can ssh out12:37
rexiboyanyone knows if the daily comes with 2.6.10?12:38
genno12:38
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HrdwrBoBrexiboy: you can update your system with it if you want12:38
rexiboyHrdwrBoB, i want to reinstall from scratch taking my 64 off...12:39
rexiboyions|Gnoppix, how long this will take you???12:39
HrdwrBoBI'm not at all sure what's in the daily CD images, sorry, I've updated from warty12:39
ions|Gnoppixsftping 12 gigs across a local network... 3 hours?12:40
ions|Gnoppixbut at least I don't have to crawl under a desk and get dusty :)12:41
VirtualDarKnessrexiboy, .. "daily" ?12:41
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pduxhi12:41
ions|Gnoppixbrb, gonna go start sshd on the gentoo box12:41
pduxwhere i can put my scripts in order to run at the startup ?12:42
rexiboygot it, it's still with 2.6.9-112:43
rexiboythat will do for now :)12:43
JDahldoes Ubuntu migrate source packages from Sid or Unstable? I've noticed that openafs 1.7x is in Sid now, and I am eagerly awaiting in Ununtu12:44
pduxwhat is the folder that i need to copy a script to in order to run that at the startup ?12:44
rexiboyjust have to say that "Turboprint" is a dream to use and setting a printer! love it12:44
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chapter3Anybody usin Horay?  I just did the latest update and now I can't login12:51
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JDahlchapter3, it's the graphical login, isnt it? You probably need to remove xfree86 and then possibly reconfigure xorg12:52
JDahlchapter3, you can still login in console mode, with ctrl-alt-f1?12:52
VirtualDarKnessJDahl, do you have the same problem?12:54
JDahlVirtualDarKness, no, I am just guessing...12:54
kipodchapter3,  u can't login ? what do u do12:54
chapter3The graphical login allows me to type my user/pass, it then changes the resolution to my saved resolution, then sits for a few second, then goes back to the gui login12:54
danielsgnome is broken12:54
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crimsunis it gnome or gdm?12:54
gensounds like gnome12:54
crimsunapt-listbugs has a grave one on gdm12:54
genI bet12:55
crimsunchapter3: try reverting to 2.6.0.6-0ubuntu212:55
chapter3How do i do that?12:56
JDahlif it's gnome, cant he just install fluxbox until gnome is fixed?12:56
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genor xfce, blackbox, openbox, etc12:56
genjdahl, and yea if it's just gnome he can12:57
chapter3Hmm, some more updates, lemme install those12:57
chapter3Looked like just hal updates tho12:57
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crimsunchapter3: yes, 4 hal-related updates resyncing with debian12:58
chapter3btw, i am able to select the "Failsafe Console" session and login to that, although it just gives a term session in the lower right corner of the screen12:58
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genchapter3, just install xfce or such from the failsafe terminal, for temporary use01:00
gensudo apt-get install xfce401:00
chapter3what is that?01:00
crimsuna lighter desktop environment01:00
VirtualDarKnessa lightweight window manager01:00
crimsun(the wm for xfce4 is xfwm4)01:00
VirtualDarKnessyou're right ;)01:01
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VirtualDarKnessanyway it is based on gtk and it is very well done01:01
chapter3hmm ok, looks like it wants to install a bunch of packages, i'll wait a few hours, see if an update comes out, and if not, i'll install that01:01
genit's not that big chapter301:01
genand of course it has a lot of packages01:02
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kipoddid some one in here installed nvidia driver on Ubuntu ( i mean complied the comeny driver form the site )01:02
chapter3ok ty for your help all :)01:03
crimsunkipod: why compile from site? it's already included with ubuntu01:03
crimsunkipod: (e.g., /wiki/BinaryDriverHowto)01:03
VirtualDarKnessdoes someone tried gnome-bluetooth with hoary? I can't install/compile it..01:03
kipodcrimsun,  yeah but it seemd that its not working01:03
kipodcrimsun,  yeah i have been there01:03
crimsunkipod: describe "not working"01:03
genkipod, did you "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" afterwards01:04
kipodwhen i m trying to run a game or a LGscreenSaver i resive this err Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".01:04
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Aurehello01:05
kipodgen yeah01:05
crimsunkipod: warty? hoary?01:05
kipodhoary01:05
crimsunkipod: if you use hoary, you need to follow bugzilla closely01:05
kipodcrimsun,  does it matte r?01:05
genkipod, of course :)01:05
crimsunyes. It's a well-known issue for hoary.01:05
kipod=)01:05
esheranyone can tell me how to get xchat 2.4.1 .debs for ubuntu ?01:05
Aurei can't install mono packages on hoary. Do you have the same problem01:05
genesher, in warty? you can use the backports01:06
esherok i will try01:06
crimsunAure: known issue, stalled from previous build01:06
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kipodcrimsun,  thank man ... can u plz gemme the bugzilla adress ... i m kinda new at this linux thingy01:06
VirtualDarKnessgen, what about the gimp 2.2 backport.. is there any?01:06
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genhttp://ubuntu-bp.sourceforge.net/01:06
bigthi i installed talk and talkd question how do i get talkd to run it keeps saying no talk deamon?01:06
crimsunkipod: it's linked from the ubuntu web site01:06
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esherwhere are backports from 2.4.1 ?01:07
esherbackports.org dont have one01:07
geni just gave you the link esher01:07
esheroh ok tnx :)01:07
genbe sure to apt-get update after you add to the sources.list01:07
VirtualDarKnessgen, "be sure to apt-get update after you add to the sources.list" .. why?01:08
Aurecrimsun, how can I fix this01:08
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genvirtual, because you have to01:08
genanytime you edit the /etc/apt/sources.list01:09
genyou need to apt-get update01:09
esher:)01:09
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crimsunAure: install from the other repo. Check the wiki for the other mono repo.01:09
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Aurecrimsun, ok, thanks!01:10
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VirtualDarKnessgen, right sorry.. I cofused "after" with "before" :D [getting tired!] 01:11
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tenzinhello01:11
genhello01:11
tenzinis this ubuntu-supportchannel only for english-people?01:12
kipodcrimsun,  its says there that the problem is fixed https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=369801:12
JDahltenzin, it's an english speaking channel, yes01:13
tenzinJDahl, does exist an german-ubuntu-chanel too?01:13
JDahltenzin, I wouldnt know01:13
kipodany way i m off to sleep01:14
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salo01:14
kipodg'night all of ya01:14
gennight kipod01:14
sais there a command that i can run to nuke all of gnome off a fresh install?01:15
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saanyone around?01:15
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JDahlsa, probably aptitude can do it for you if install another wm at the same time (otherwise X will be removed)01:16
saalready have xfce4 installed :)01:16
sajust want to nuke gnome and have the install load to a command prompt instead of the gdm or whatever it is that loads to login01:16
jdubsa: remove glib, then install xfce01:17
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GFXstyLERhi01:17
jdubthat's a pretty strong way of doing it01:17
seb128libgtk is enough01:18
saneed gtk01:18
saxfce4 is gtk01:18
seb128you can reinstall after removing :)01:18
jdubsa: when you remove it, it will remove gnome. then you install xfce, which will install it again.01:18
seb128yeah, but remove libgtk it'll remove all the package on top of it01:18
seb128then reinstall  xfce01:18
saapt-get remove libgtk is the command right?01:18
seb128libgtk2.0-001:19
sasorry, moving to ubuntu from freebsd01:19
seb128no problem, don't worry :)01:19
seb128"sudo apt-get remove libgtk2.0-0"01:19
saaye01:19
sai know a little bout using apt01:19
GFXstyLERcan someone tell me how was the ubuntu beta called again?01:20
sai must admit i really like the default setup of the distro to use sudo instead of su -01:20
VirtualDarKnessGFXstyLER, do you mean hoary?01:20
GFXstyLERyes, thank you :)01:20
sawtf01:20
GFXstyLERi forgot01:20
sawhy does apt want the install cd?01:20
gen"wtf"01:21
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JDahlwouldnt it be nice to just mark gnome for removal in aptitude instead of removing libgtk, gnome, xfce, X, + whatever development libraries he might have?01:21
VirtualDarKnessGFXstyLER, np was easy to forgot to me too the first times ;)01:21
JDahlnicer01:21
GFXstyLERmaybe this is a stupid question but, are there many bugs in hoary?01:21
izaaccause there are packages it'll need to install to satisfy dependencies01:21
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gengfx, of course01:22
izaacsa: thats why01:22
WardHi, I've got a cisco aironet wireless card which has been installed automatically by ubuntu. I've got a eth1 and wifi0 in iwconfig, but I'm not able to change something, even not the ESSID01:22
GFXstyLERok thats something that scares me of01:22
sabut why not get them from remote archives?01:22
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sawhy does it need to get them from the disc? that's the first time i've ever needed an install disc after the install was taken care of...01:23
izaacsa: modify the /etc/apt/sources.list and comment the line of the cd01:23
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krixhey01:23
VirtualDarKnesssa, you can also use synaptic01:23
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krixon a fresh install warty i did a dist-upgrade to hoary01:23
izaacVirtualDarKness: yeah thats another way01:23
sathanks01:23
JDahlsa, I would run aptitude from a console.. type '/^gnome$' to find find gnome, mark it for removel with '-' and remove it witk 'g'01:23
saVirtualDarKness: thanks, but i like using cli tools01:23
krixbtw i hit apt-get install gnome-desktop-envirnoment01:23
krixthen it says can ot install because nautilus-media >=0.8.1 is requied01:24
krixbtw nautilus-media depends on libnautilus2-201:24
krixbut01:24
izaacsa: nano /etc/apt/sources.list01:24
izaac:D01:24
krixapt-get install libnautilus2-2 says that01:24
punkrockguy318is cupsys broken in hoary?01:24
krixnautils libnautilis.. packages replaces the libnautilus2-2 :)01:24
krixso what to do now? :)))01:25
saif there is a .xinitrc in a home directory, X will use that before a default setup right?01:25
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sabrb, going to test something, thanks alot for the help01:25
VirtualDarKnesssa, you can also use vi instead of nano .. lol :D01:25
saaye VirtualDarKness01:25
sai use vi :)01:25
VirtualDarKnesshehe01:25
VirtualDarKnessbye01:25
VirtualDarKnesslater01:25
hypa7iai'm having a very strange cd-burning issue... the last 4 cd's i've burned have been returning this error when i try to md5sum /dev/cdrom01:25
hypa7ia$ md5sum /dev/cdrom01:25
hypa7iaerror processing /dev/cdrom: failed in buffer_read(fd): mdfile: Input/output error01:25
hypa7iaany ideas?01:25
hypa7iathis is in warty, btw01:25
hypa7iaand known good cdr's will still md5sum01:26
regeyagah.  it's insulting enough that I'm stuck on a dialup line at home (live in the country, direcway too expensive, etc.) but it's raining like crazy and I think there are some wet connections somewhere. :-/01:26
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regeyaI've slowed to about the equivalent of 9600 baud01:26
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gen9600 baud haha01:26
hypa7iathat's brootal01:26
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hypa7iamy winmodem doesn't even work with linuxant... had to boot into windoze last time i needed dialup >_<01:27
hypa7iahadn't sullied my machine with a reboot in 2 months :-(01:27
odysseyhi im following the steps on the wiki to install beagle from cvs and am trying to make dbus from cvs as it says to do however it wont make as it says there is no makefile present? Any ideas?01:28
hypa7iaso no one has any ideas on the cd-burning issue?01:29
punkrockguy318hypa7ia, :-\ sorry not here01:29
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hypa7iadammit!01:30
odysseyheh01:30
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ingfulhi there =)01:31
hypa7iahaha, i just got like 10 ctcp versions :-p01:31
sensebend:)01:31
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sensebendI haven't got a reply yet01:31
geni didn't either01:31
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sensebendwe're ddosing him with ctcp version01:32
sensebend:)01:32
the--dudi dont suppose anyone happen to have the jre-1_5_0-linux-i586.bin file on their pc?01:32
Ensiferumhello all. thanks for all the help people.01:32
sensebendI do the--dud01:32
Ensiferumhttp://www.student.oulu.fi/~savaisan/stuff/adventures.txt01:32
the--dudthe stupid sun downloadcenter is down...01:32
the--dudsensebend, dont suppose you'd be kind enough to send it?01:32
hypa7iasensebend: not he :-p01:32
sensebendthere you go01:33
the--dudgreat, thanks a lot01:33
sensebendis Sun's site down?01:33
the--dudnah, just their download center01:34
sensebendthat sucks01:34
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ingfulerhm ... anyone know in which paket i can find gnome-ppp ?01:34
the--dud"The Sun Download Center is temporarily unavailable."01:34
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the--dudSun sucks in general hehe01:34
sensebendjust when I was gonna get Solaris for x86 ;) under their educational license01:34
sensebendhehehe, not01:34
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JDahlingful, in gnome-ppp package01:35
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ingfulit's not on my CD JDahl01:35
ingful:(01:35
JDahlingful, maybe you need to add universe to /etc/apt/sources.list01:36
ingfulthx#01:36
ingfulthanx01:36
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odysseyhi im getting this error any ideas please? "Now type 'make' to compile dbus. user@alice:~/cvs/dbus $ make make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop."01:38
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sayay01:38
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saloaded in xfce4 now01:38
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aravaCan somebody plz help me01:38
sasup arava ?01:38
aravaiam stuck in this cramfs initrd stuff01:38
aravasup ?01:39
sashort for what's up :)01:39
aravaK01:39
the--dudnice speed btw sensebend01:39
aravaactually i need to run 2.4 kernel01:39
the--dudfor upload that is...01:39
aravaiam trying to make the kernel package the deb way01:39
sensebendyou're just being nice01:39
sensebendI need more01:39
sai was hoping the default grub config would boot winxp partition just fine01:39
sabut it's being a pita01:39
sensebendyou're welcome though :)01:40
aravai tried the normal way though01:40
genhow much is it (upload) sense01:40
aravai get Kernel Panic saying01:40
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krixhm in hoary the multiverse repo is for what ?01:40
aravanot able to find root01:40
sensebend512kbps01:41
sensebendarava, root is disabled01:41
sensebendyou can do root tasks through sudo and your user password01:41
sensebenderr nevermind, I didn't read what you wrote before that01:41
aravasensebed i think u got me wrong01:41
sensebendI think I did too01:41
aravai was not talking abt root stuff01:41
sensebend:)01:41
sashould a grub entry (never used grub) for XP have savedefault, makeactive, and chainloader +1 ?01:43
aravano its a single linux system (no dual boot)01:43
samine is a dual boot01:43
sawell, trying to get it to be anyway lol01:43
aravaand iam using lilo for some awkward reason01:44
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aravaSo ne body knows how to get 2.4 kernel running on Ubuntu ?01:45
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genarava, why do you want to run 2.4 again01:45
aravawell .. i need it for some patch which is available for 2.401:45
genpatch for?01:46
aravaFast TCP01:46
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aravaK if i have to compile the vannila kernel from kernel.org do we need to put up some patches ?01:47
Cube-nessmuch confusion.. i cannot get a stinking entry in /dev/ for an ide hd i just plopped in..ubuntu is installed on sata hd, and there used to be 2 ide cdroms, now its a cdrom and hd.. computer see's the drive, i can boot the OS on it from grub.. and the Disks, system tools, see the drive (even says /dev/hdb), but theres no info on it.. what going on ?01:47
subterrificarava: ubuntu is designed for 2.6 kernel, i think you're going to run into a lot of problems trying to use a 2.4 kernel and no one is going to want to help you01:47
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GFXstyLERhi01:48
subterrificarava: if you don't have the knowledge to get it working, then you're better off not using ubuntu01:48
GFXstyLERis there a way to have a boot screen in warty like the livecd has?01:48
subterrificarava: or maybe stop using FastTCP whatever that is...01:48
jdubGFXstyLER: no, but there'll be a cool boot thingy in the next release01:48
genthingy01:49
GFXstyLERthx jdub01:49
gennice choice of words jdub :)01:49
spikebheh01:49
aravaK .. thanx for he suggestion but i tried it bcoz i didnt get running on Deb01:49
genbcoz01:49
Cube-nessis there something in /etc/udev maybe that i stopping me form accessing the ide hd?01:49
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aravaDeb also had the same issue01:49
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saarg01:50
sagrub isn't booting my xp partition01:50
subterrificarava: you'd probably have even more problems with ubuntu then because it is further along in its support for 2.6 kernel01:50
JDahlI would be surprised if, e.g., hotplug works with kernel 2.4 in Ubuntu01:51
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JDahlalsa is probably going to be nightmare also01:51
jdubsurprised? i'd fall over and die straight away. :-)01:51
GFXstyLERis this a known problem that while xmms is playing music no other sounds are playable/hearable ?01:53
esherare there anyone k3b clone for gnome ?01:53
GFXstyLERno01:53
GFXstyLERgnome-toaster maybe but thats no k3b clone01:53
jdubesher: there are a few projects around that do similar stuff, but none are packaged for ubuntu yet01:53
scoonesher, you could check out xcdroast01:53
jdubesher: perhaps you'd like to test one -> gnome-baker, optimystic, coaster, and a few others01:53
saanyone know why grub would be failing to load my xp partition?01:53
esherwell, k3b from ubuntu backport dont see my recorder01:54
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Hitchhiker90=)01:54
Hitchhiker90(=01:54
eshertnx jdub , i try some01:54
GFXstyLERdoes ubuntu need a initrd image if i have a separate /boot ext2 partition?01:54
sai had made some space on my hd using partition magic01:54
saso the xp partition is before the linux one01:54
jdubGFXstyLER: the ubuntu kernels use initrd, yes01:55
sai've got menu.lst to readL rootnoverify(hd0,0), makeactive, chainloader +101:55
sabut if i select the xp partition it just hangs01:55
GFXstyLERi want to compile the 2.6.10 kernel01:55
saand i really need to get that back up and running tonight01:55
GFXstyLERbut i dont know how to to this initrd thingy01:55
Aureanother problem w/ my hoary: each time I reboot, I need to set the volume up. How can I fix this ?01:56
subterrificarava: GFXstyLER read the instructions for compiling a kernel on debian01:56
subterrificoops01:56
jdubGFXstyLER: 2.6.10 is already in hoary01:56
the--dudi dont suppose anyone know where wx-conf happens to be in ubuntu?01:56
the--dudor which package provides it?01:56
GFXstyLER@subterrific: thx01:56
the--dudit seems to be related to wxGKT, but that doesnt provide it as far as i can see01:56
scoonAure, set you controls and then do a alsactl store01:57
GFXstyLER@jdub: but hoary has many bugs i heard so i guess is better for me to not use it01:57
saanyone know how to help with my problem?01:57
Cube-nessspeaking of Hoary.. i still get kernel panic at boot.. when hotplug tried to init01:57
subterrificGFXstyLER: there are a bunch of tools you'll need to install, but in the end you basically end up with a .deb for installing the kernel01:57
Cube-ness..when using kernel 2.6.901:57
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Aurescoon, thanks!01:57
JDahlsa, I just pm'ed you the section from my menu.lst01:57
scoonAure, np01:57
jdubGFXstyLER: it's the devel branch, sure, but it's not terrible. perhaps pull 2.6.10 from hoary.01:58
saJDahl: on the forums?01:58
JDahlno, here01:58
saJDahl: didn't see it01:58
GFXstyLER@jdub: so you think i should give it a try ?01:58
gencube-ness, for pciehp and shpchp i assume, if so the fix is in the wiki01:59
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Cube-nessgen, cool.. i'll try to find it02:00
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Aurelast question : NVIDIA drivers work well, but I need to reinstall them each time I reboot. How can I fix this ?02:00
gencubeness02:00
genjust edit /etc/hotplug/blacklist02:00
genand add "shpchp" and "pciehp"02:00
gento the very bottom02:00
genwithout quotes of course (sorry for the quasi-flood there)02:00
Cube-nessheh02:00
Cube-nessok..will try02:01
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Cube-nessthanks02:01
genno problem02:01
Cube-nessbrb.. with luck, in a newer kernel02:01
saJDahl: could you do me a favor and pm that info to me on the ubuntu forums? the handle is sah02:01
scoonAure, hmmm.  that is an odd one.02:01
JDahlsa, sure02:01
scoonAure, never heard of that happening b4.02:01
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saJDahl: thanks, really need to get something done on the windows side ><02:02
scoonAure, have you added nvidia to /etc/modules and changed nv to nvidia in /etc/X11/XF86Conf-4 ?02:02
the--dudhmm, is this something ubuntu specific02:02
Aurescoon, it warns me about a rivafb module activated in the kernel, but lsmod dont't list it02:02
the--dudgtk+ should have a file called gtk-conf, and similar wxgtk+ has one called wx-conf02:02
scoonAure, what is the warning ?02:02
the--dudnone of those are present on my hoary ubuntu02:03
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scoonAure, also, how did you intall the nvidia module ?02:03
Aurescoon, my /etc/modules.conf is empty02:03
Aurescoon, i shutdown gdm and do a nvidia-installer02:04
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scoonuse the installer from nvidia, Aure ?02:04
Aureyes02:04
JDahlsa, should be sent02:05
Aurescoon, my /etc/modules.conf is empty. Is it normal ?02:05
scoonAure, and then do you change nv to nvidia in your xconf file ?02:05
Aureyes02:05
scoonAure, so now you need to and nvidia to /etc/modules.conf02:05
scoonthat will auto load the nvidia module when booting02:05
jdubto /etc/modules02:05
jdubnot /etc/modules.conf02:05
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scoonAure, sorry,02:05
scoon/etc/modules02:06
scoonnot modules.conf02:06
Aureho!02:06
Cube-nessgen, nope.. still panics.. somethign about not syncing02:06
Aurenvidia is under comment02:06
gennot syncing what?02:06
saJDahl: thanks, going to reboot now to test :)02:06
scoonAure, anyway, any module you put there will get loaded when you boot up.02:06
subterrificGFXstyLER: http://archive.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.10/02:06
genwould help to know all of the error Cube-ness02:06
Aurescoon, jdub : i reboot to test02:07
subterrificGFXstyLER: jdub was suggesting that you try one of those 2.6.10 linux-image .deb's with warty02:07
scoonAure, all right.02:07
Cube-nessgen, sorry.. not syncing.. doesnt tell what.. and something about tried to kill an idle task02:07
Cube-nesssometimes i get that02:07
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GFXstyLERsubterrific: thx very much :)02:07
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Cube-nessgen, if it'd help, i can retry and jot down the exact message.. shouldnt it be in some log somewhere?02:09
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Aurescoon, it works perfectly! thanks02:10
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scoonAure, np.  sorry for the confusion.02:10
scoonAure, just to help clear things up02:10
scoonAure, try reading man pages for modules and modules.conf02:11
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Aurei never had a problem w/ modules, so i never had to read those pages... But i'll do that02:12
subterrificjdub: http://elektra.sf.net, any thoughts on that? maybe for grumpy?02:12
AureNow, I need to sleep, it's late late late for me. Seeya !02:13
jdubsubterrific: the author, and the idea, are entirely scary.02:13
scoonAure, cya.02:13
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ogra'Elektra was formerly named Linux Registry'02:16
ogralol02:16
subterrificjdub: what is scary about the idea besides the amount of work it would take?02:16
jdubsubterrific: it's not necessarily a great idea. the implementation is total crack, too.02:17
jdubso if you take a half-baked idea, and bake it with crack, you get... well, fully baked crack.02:17
jdubwhich is not healthy, you see.02:17
subterrificjdub: i'll admit i haven't looked at the implementation, but the screenshots of all those worthless CDATA blocks are a little scary02:19
subterrificjdub: i still think the basic concept is a good idea though, as it makes configuration easier, which can't be bad02:20
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the--dudi just used alien to make a qdvdauthor package, should i like, contact someone to get it in the hoary repos?02:20
jdubsubterrific: "easier" doesn't necessarily mean "put it all in the same big mess"02:20
the--dudor isnt an alien'd suse rpm good enough?02:20
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subterrificjdub: no, but i think "easier" does mean providing a standard for conf files. a standard probably including: API, format, location, tools02:23
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kezzwouldn't apache etc have to be onboard with this?02:23
dissidentcitizenhey guys, whenever I use the apt-get command I always get a message saying "E: Couldn't find package". Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?02:23
kezzthe package isn't in ur lists02:24
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kezzmite need to uncomment the universe repositories in /etc/apt/sources.list02:24
eshermany try's to compile from source ends with: configure error: C++ preprocessor "lib/cpp/" fails sanity check ... but g++ is installed02:24
kezzsudo nano /etc/apt/sources.lst02:24
esheranyone can help ?02:24
kezzthen sudo apt-get update02:24
jdubsubterrific: different pieces of software have very, very different needs. there's enough evidence of this already (windows registry, gconf, etc).02:25
kezzesher have you got build-essential installed?02:25
rgsnever tried irc before, just set up an old Dell poweredge with Ubuntu02:25
esherkezz, i check 1mom02:25
esherno :)02:26
eshertnx mate02:26
esherworks now :D02:26
kezz:)02:26
esheri love ubuntu, no other debian-dist runns so smooth on my notebook ;>02:28
kezzyeah its the best i've found for my ibook02:28
dissidentcitizenyep kezz I haven't uncommented those lines, but how can I alter the documents read-only properties to change them?02:28
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subterrificjdub: i agree, but i think what you just said helps the case for some sort of standard, both the windows registry and gconf are standards. the issue being that we've got no standard for lower-level needs. gconf is too heavy for sshd, xorg, etc...02:29
kezzah dissidentcitizen you need to sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.lst02:29
dissidentcitizenokay, have opened it up02:29
kezzthen sudo apt-get update02:29
dissidentcitizenah, cunning.....brb02:29
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dissidentcitizenok I have entered apt-get update into the sources.lst but nothing happens?02:31
kezzno dissidentcitizen02:31
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kezzyou need to remove that and also remove the # in fron of the universe lines02:31
kezzthen ctrl+o ctrl+x to save and exit02:32
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kezzthen type sudo apt-get update at the command line02:32
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kezzthe # means that apt will ignore these lines02:32
dissidentcitizenok I think I understand, but when I open my sources.lst file in nano its empty02:32
kezzwhere as you want it to use them02:32
kezzsudo /etc/apt/sources.lst02:32
kezzsorry with a nano in the middle02:33
grepper  /etc/apt/sources.list02:33
dissidentcitizenok yep have done that, it opens a black nano window with various commands at the bottom02:33
kezzheh yeah my bad02:33
kezzits /etc/apt/sources.list02:34
dissidentcitizenoh! hehe ok yeah its opened ok now....02:34
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usual** (totem:6904): WARNING **: Visualization disabled because your gst-plugins is too old (0.8.6.0)02:35
usualanyone know when gstreamer is going to get updated in hoary02:36
krixbye02:36
jdubsubterrific: gconf isn't too heavy, it's just inappropriate.02:36
jdubsubterrific: elektra is also inappropraite.02:36
kezzcan't you update the plugins?02:36
lifelessjdub: is gnome-phonemgr in hoary ?02:37
sobralenseis the gdesklets a bit slow or its the hoary I'm using.. ?02:38
jdublifeless: not yet02:38
jdublifeless: it'll be in universe probably02:38
lifelessK. see you soon02:39
subterrificjdub: by heavy i mean dependencies: ldd /usr/lib/libgconf.so shows 11 libraries02:42
usualwill gstreamer be updated to a version capable of playing dvd's in hoary before release?02:43
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usualor does no one know02:44
TheMusosubterrific: In terms of linked libraries, you haven't seen anything. I have seen executables and libraries linked to over a screen full of libraries.02:44
jdubsubterrific: not a huge issue02:44
usualI've asked for a couple days now without answer02:44
jdubusual: gstreamer can play dvd's, but we can't ship the required bits underneath02:45
usualjdub, I havn't been able to get gstreamer totem to play dvd's even with the codecs and libdvdcss2 installed, xine yes but gstreamer no, it claims the version isn't capable, so do the people in gstreamer02:46
subterrificjdub: for a more universal config API, you'd only want to depend on libc. i agree that this sort of library would be inappropriate for a few applications, but the aim would be to help a majority and looking at the smiliarities in most of the config files in /etc, and $HOME/.*.conf it shouldn't be difficult02:46
usual#gstreamer02:46
subterrificjdub: it is a huge issue, sshd would never be able to use gconf02:47
jdubusual: ah, with totem? no, you couldn't do that until the very latest totem that is now in hoary02:47
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jdubsubterrific: dude. it's a dumb idea anyway. i have very low care factor for it. :)02:47
usualjdub, I just updated totem in hoary, it claims the version of the gstreamer plugins isn't high enough to play dvd's02:48
jdubsubterrific: read countless mails on xdg about it if you're really interested.02:48
jdubusual: there you go :)02:48
usual** (totem:7147): WARNING **: Visualization disabled because your gst-plugins is too old (0.8.6.0)02:48
crimsunperhaps it needs 0.8.8?02:48
usualjdub, thats why i was asking if they were going to be updated02:48
usualI think I do need 8.802:48
jdubthey will be at some stage, yes02:49
usualyes02:49
usualok02:49
usualthank you02:49
usualwonder who the maint is02:49
jdubanything in the gnome platform or desktop release will be updated until preview02:49
jdubseb128 maintains them for ubuntu02:49
usualk02:49
usualthanks02:50
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kebachow do i put my existing user to audio-group?02:58
crimsunsudo adduser youruser audio03:00
crimsunthen log out and back in03:00
kebacthanks03:02
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xhypnoanyone used perl formats???03:09
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kebachow do i enable root acount?03:09
restrexkebac how do i enable root acount?03:10
restrexgraphically?03:10
kebacmy friend asks03:10
crimsunthe answer is on the wiki03:10
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restrexyea :)03:10
setiteno03:10
restrexkebac read a little :) passwd in root (by sudo -s)03:10
restrexcrimsun the answer is on the wiki03:11
restrex:)03:11
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jdubrestrex: www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo03:11
jdubkebac: but i don't recommend doing it :)03:11
restrexjdub I know :)03:11
jdubrestrex: you should point to it when answering03:11
restrexjdub ok :)03:11
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setite@find linux03:13
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setitewhoops wrong network03:13
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adoyretsamonoccy: yo03:15
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passdoubthi03:16
Guardiannhello03:16
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drspinawww - flamewars still offtopic :-(03:19
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yccow00p03:19
drspin;) hi all!03:19
ycconomasteryoda :)03:19
kebaclol03:19
yccocrimsun ogra Got my laptop up and going with Ubuntu finally!03:19
kebacthis 'sudo' thing sucks03:20
yccokebac sudo rox03:20
adoyretsamonycco, so you back up on Ubuntu03:20
yccokebac sudo su -03:20
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kebacquote from wiki: Q: What about a trojan shell script containing a line like "sudo rm -rf /" executed in the user account? A: What about a trojan shell script containing "rm -rf /", or one which records all of your keystrokes (including passwords) and sends a copy to the attacker? Running untrusted scripts is always dangerous.03:20
yccokebac and you can do anything you want as you normally would as root.03:20
kebacwhere's the answer?03:20
yccoanyone logging in as root is a moron.03:20
adoyretsamonycco, one of the guys (ragreen asked about a site... lol)03:20
yccoIMNSHO03:20
adoyretsamonycco: certainly03:21
regeyao_O03:21
drspinycco: agreed03:21
crimsunoccy/ycco: excellent!03:21
adoyretsamonwell, off to the neighbors to help get her on the net.03:21
adoyretsamonbb later.03:21
yccosorry, that wasn't a very good advocacy statement was it?03:21
yccoheh03:21
yccoadoyretsamon heh, copy cat. :P03:21
adoyretsamonmaybe wifi via d50503:21
adoyretsamonlol03:21
yccoerr tac  ypoc03:21
regeyait was especially amusing when I first took this machine down to singleuser, and it asked me for the root password.03:22
adoyretsamonnomasteryoda says hey, hey, hey!03:22
yccocrimsun yah, nomasteryoda <-- let me use his cdrom, and it worked like a charm.03:22
crimsunrock03:22
yccostupid cd.03:22
setitenomasteryoda... a little backards today?03:22
yccoerr03:22
adoyretsamonycco: and my broadband..lol03:22
yccostupid cdrom03:22
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adoyretsamonyea03:22
yccoadoyretsamon heh03:22
yccohahahahahah03:22
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yccotouchdown USC!03:23
etiteslook im cool too03:23
adoyretsamonhad to crawl under the house to unstop the pipes03:23
adoyretsamonXX fingers it worked03:23
yccosetite heh03:23
yccoadoyretsamon better you than me bud.03:23
adoyretsamonhehe03:23
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yccohad to go under my in-laws house to run cat503:23
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yccothat wasn't fun.03:23
adoyretsamonlol03:23
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adoyretsamonat least its 4-5 ft here03:24
adoyretsamonl8r03:24
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yccoShould I be able to simply use my XF86Config-4 file from Fedora Core 1.0?03:24
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yccoit worked at 1400x1050 just fine.03:25
yccoadoyretsamon 1024x768 is a silly res on these displays.03:26
ycco1400x1050 is perfect.03:26
crimsunycco: yes03:26
yccocrimsun ahh ok.  I'll wait till the apt-get dist-upgrade is finished.03:26
yccocrimsun my desktop experience with hoary wasn't fun. ;)03:26
yccohehe03:26
yccoI'm sure it probably could have been fixed, but I didn't want to bug people with questions about unstable.03:27
crimsunyeah, hoary is teething currently03:27
yccoif you are going to run testing, you should know what you are doing.  (and I don't)03:27
yccoheh03:27
luc1f3rGuys: when packages are uninstallable, what does that mean and what do I do if i need them as dependencies for a program??03:28
yccoluc1f3r not enough info03:29
yccoluc1f3r need to know what you are talking about exactly.03:29
yccoluc1f3r cheesy nick.  heh03:29
ycco:)03:29
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regeyaluc1f3r, the uninstallable package breaks dependencies in some way, and installing it may break other packages.03:29
regeyaplenty of info for a generic answer, not enough to help with the specific problem. ;-)03:30
yccoregeya hehe03:30
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regeyaand mind you if what I say doesn't make sense, I'm suffering from insomnia.  that's my excuse today.03:30
Danko123456Hi, Ive got an ez one...03:31
yccohahaha, intercepted.03:31
Danko123456How to add a user?03:31
yccoif what I say doesn't make sense, it's because I don't know what I'm talking about.03:31
yccoDanko123456 man useradd03:31
yccoDanko123456 or adduser03:31
Danko123456hehe03:31
Danko123456thanks...03:31
yccosomething like:03:31
yccoadduser user_name03:31
yccoone does one thing, another does another.03:31
yccoCan't remember which is prefered.03:32
yccow00p, dist-upgrade complete03:32
Danko123456adduser03:32
Danko123456then it prompts you03:32
regeyaluc1f3r, what are you trying to install, and what package is uninstallable?03:32
Danko123456how do you update OS?03:32
yccoDanko123456 sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade03:32
yccoDanko123456 kick back and enjoy.03:33
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martinaldhi03:33
martinaldi'm having problems building software on ubuntu03:33
martinaldi have apt-get install gcc03:33
martinaldbut when i try and compile some software it always complains and dies at the stage where it tries to find the gnu C++ compiler03:33
martinaldthe gnu C compiler is found no problems whowever03:33
martinaldhowever03:33
crimsunmartinald: install build-essential03:34
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martinaldah. yes, that would make sense. thanks v. much03:35
martinaldi'm guessing this is going to cure about a billion issues i've had with this :)03:35
passdoubtanybody know how to go about setting up an old ISA Awe 64 in ubuntu03:36
martinaldgod, that's old :)03:37
martinaldsndconfig?03:37
yccohmmm03:37
yccocrimsun how do I reconfigure X?03:37
crimsunsudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree8603:38
yccoit didn't like my Fedora Core 1.0 XF86Config-4 file.03:38
passdoubton boot alsa mixer says alsactl: load state 1134 no sound cards found03:38
Danko123456whats that command in unix, like a write, that splits the screen in two...?03:38
martinaldscreen?03:38
martinaldno03:38
Danko123456none?03:39
Danko123456buhu...03:39
martinalderm03:39
martinaldhow do you mean, splits the screen in two?03:39
Danko123456like a chat...03:39
martinaldwrite?03:40
martinaldi don't know what you mean03:40
Danko123456I know its sthg like that.03:40
Danko123456among users.03:40
Danko123456you can have many users logged on right...03:40
martinaldok, i am having a problem with glib..  Requested 'glib-2.0 >= 2.4.0' but version of GLib is 2.2.003:40
Danko123456so they can talk03:40
martinaldyes03:40
martinaldwrite probably03:40
martinaldyes thats what you want03:41
Danko123456hm...03:41
martinaldtype write [username] 03:41
Danko123456let me see.03:41
martinaldpresse enter03:41
yccohmmm, it said that I had /dev/input/mice for a mouse on my laptop before... but this lappie doesn't have usb.03:41
yccoerr03:41
yccodoesn't have usb mouse.  I have a touchpad03:41
martinald/dev/input/mouse?03:41
ycco s/mouse/mice/03:41
Danko123456hey bash is pretty cool...you can edit the command line...03:41
Danko123456:)03:41
martinaldanyone know where i can get glib-2.4.0 from?03:42
martinaldubuntu only seems to have 2.2.003:42
Danko123456Where are all the bin dirs?03:42
Danko123456I mean I need to find a program...03:42
crimsunmartinald: hmm?03:42
crimsunmartinald: apt-get install libglib2.0-dev03:43
martinaldyes that's what i have done03:43
martinaldbut it only has 2.2.003:43
crimsunmartinald: ...warty/main has 2.4.7-0ubuntu203:43
martinaldyes but it contains 2.2.003:43
yccocrimsun is there a GUI way to configure X?03:43
nomasteryodaDanko123456, if you know the name type 'which programname'03:44
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ycco:/03:44
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nomasteryodaor apropos wireless03:44
crimsunycco: ...a gui way to configure a gui?03:44
yccocrimsun well.... I just need to get X working.03:44
method55is mozilla thunderbird in the synaptic package manager only version 0.8?03:44
ycconot getting any lovin'03:44
martinaldlol03:44
crimsunmethod55: for warty, yes.03:44
martinaldwhat error are you having?03:44
JDahlycco, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (xserver-xorg) to reconfigure03:45
yccoI've used this laptop @1400x1050 for like... ever.03:45
yccoJDahl that's not working.03:45
martinaldwhat's the problem with it?03:45
yccoheh, X isn't starting.03:45
nomasteryodaycco, 1024x768?03:45
yccoI am no X-pert.03:45
crimsunycco: when you attempt to start it, what error does it give you? please paste /var/log/XFree86.0.log onto pastebin.com03:45
ycconomasteryoda 1024x768 sux03:45
nomasteryodalol03:45
nomasteryodayes03:45
martinaldlol that's going to be intresting if he has no gui03:46
method55crimsun: when do things such as that get updated?03:46
yccocrimsun heh, no X it's sorta hard (a pain) to paste things ;)03:46
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martinaldcan you roughly remember the last error?03:46
nomasteryodalinks?03:46
crimsunmethod55: nothing is updated for warty except security fixes and non-invasive high-priority essential bugfixes.03:46
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method55what is the other release?03:46
crimsunycco: hold.03:46
yccocrimsun k bud.03:46
crimsunmartinald: pkg-config glib-2.0 --modversion03:46
nomasteryodamartinald, we should have setup that before he left =)03:46
regeyathe thing is, my printer is printing lovely cyan and magenta, and my monitor's showing me lovely IBM CGA-style cyan and magenta, which isn't cyan and magenta.03:47
martinaldpkg-config glib-2.0 --modversion03:47
martinald2.2.003:47
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Danko123456thanks yoda03:47
eEyeHi guys, i just installed ubuntu, i trying to get root in xterm, like su and my password but its look like im not in wheel group of something cauz authentication fail, any idea?03:47
crimsunmartinald: then you don't have glib 2.4's development headers and libraries installed.03:47
yccocrimsun  occy.net/tmp03:48
crimsunycco: curl -F "code=</var/log/XFree86.0.log" -F poster=YourNick -F parent_pid= -F paste=Send http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php 2> /dev/null | grep YourNick03:48
martinaldoh. how do i do that?03:48
martinaldsynaptic shows them installed03:48
yccocrimsun heh, k, sec.03:48
crimsunmartinald: paste onto pastebin.com the output of `apt-cache policy libglib2.0-dev'03:48
yccocrimsun the XF86Config file is from my old Fedora Core 1.0 installation.03:49
martinaldlibglib2.0-dev:03:49
martinald  Installed: 2.6.0-0ubuntu103:49
martinald  Candidate: 2.6.0-0ubuntu103:49
martinald  Version Table:03:49
martinald *** 2.6.0-0ubuntu1 003:49
martinald        500 http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary/main Packages03:49
martinald        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status03:49
martinaldit's not very long, no point putting it on pastebin03:49
yccomartinald #flood please.03:49
crimsunmartinald: ...pastebin.com next time, not the channel.03:49
martinaldlol.. oj03:49
martinaldok03:49
yccomartinald anything over 2 lines.03:49
martinaldright, i'm sorry, i'm sorry...03:50
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martinaldi only meant to paste the first 3 lines, sorry...03:51
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crimsunycco: did you paste /var/log/XFree86.0.log?03:53
yccocrimsun does it take a while to do?03:53
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yccoit's hanging, like the process isn't going through.03:53
martinaldcrimsun do you have any idea what i've done wrong here?03:53
crimsunycco: oh, I see it.03:53
ycco<li><a href="http://pastebin.com/223849">ycco</a><br />03:53
yccoheh03:53
regeyagyh.03:53
Danko123456why is my apt-get update not work?03:54
yccocrimsun that was cool, I'll have to make a tip on my site about that one ;)03:54
Danko123456as root, synaptic is closed.03:54
crimsunycco: be sure to credit http://sh.nu/nvidia, not me :)03:54
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neighborleehow do I find broken packages in synatpic with broken filter..im checking 'broken' and clicking ok but  not seeing anything broken show up ?>?03:54
yccocrimsun did you see the occy.net/tmp (XF86Config file) ?03:54
crimsunycco: yep03:54
yccok03:54
yccoI'm thinking some path isn't right.03:55
yccoin my old XF86Config file or something.03:55
crimsunmartinald: sudo apt-get --reinstall install libglib2.0-dev03:55
yccohahaha03:55
yccoTouchdown USC!!!03:55
yccoDang... they are blowing things wide open.03:55
martinaldcrimsun, i've done that, and i'm still getting the same output for the --modprobe03:55
yccoI guess noone here watches US college football. :)03:55
martinaldno, it's shit. :)03:56
yccomartinald heh :P watch your language potty mouth.03:56
martinaldlol :S03:56
eEyeThere is any way to enable the root user in a term?03:56
martinaldwhy do you need it? out of intrest?03:56
crimsunmartinald: ...modprobe?03:56
martinald--modeversion sorry03:56
martinaldmodversion*03:56
crimsunycco: ubuntu doesn't use xfs (the font server)03:57
yccocrimsun ahh, so just take that out?03:57
yccocrimsun or replace the font stuff from the original XF86Config file.03:58
yccothat should work right?03:58
crimsunycco: you need the fully-enumerated font paths03:58
yccocrimsun k, let me try and do some cut and pasting. heh03:58
martinaldycco, out of intrest, why did you past your XF86Config file/03:58
crimsun(you at least must have FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" )03:58
crimsun(in Section "Files")03:59
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crimsunmartinald: what program are you attempting to compile?04:00
snowhello room, I have a question about ubuntu04:00
crimsunbrb04:00
martinaldgnome-outliner04:00
martinaldgnome-outliner.sf.net04:00
martinaldit's very new, first release only came out today, but it's from an idea from the guy behind the new mozilla.org site and the visual design of it04:01
snowhow do I change the resoltion in gnome?04:01
martinaldsnow04:01
martinaldare you using warty?04:01
snowya04:02
yccocrimsun hmmm, I replaced the files section from the default Ubuntu XF86Config file into the old Fedora Core 1.0 XF86Config file and took out that Files section.04:02
martinaldit's in computer -->04:02
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snowi just installed ubuntu and no virtualy nothing about linux04:02
yccocrimsun should I redo the pastebin.com thingy?04:02
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martinaldit's in computer --> system settings - display resolution04:02
snow*smacks forhead*04:03
martinaldlol04:03
martinaldbelieve me, it's taken them about.. 5 years? to get that in gnome04:03
yccocrimsun just repasted it.04:03
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snowthank you! I can see! it was on 1920 or somthing b404:04
martinaldlol04:04
yccosnow 1600x1200 is best I find :)04:04
yccosnow depends on your monitor/lcd size though04:04
yccoand your eyesight.04:04
snowis there some kinda of basic introduction I can read so I don't bore you all with my newbie questions?04:04
ycco:)04:04
martinaldit depends on the refresh rate imo04:04
yccosnow you won't bore me, Those are the only kinds I can answer.04:04
martinaldi can't stand (ie: i get headaches) on anything less than 85Hz04:04
yccosnow ;)04:04
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snowis there any disadvantage of runing higher refresh?04:05
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snowyeah 1600x1200 looks about right on my 21in04:05
yccosnow yah, that's what I run on my 21"04:05
yccosnow @85hrz04:05
martinaldi'd run 1600x1200 on this 19" but it's cheap n nasty and therefore can only do 75Hz04:06
martinald@ 1600x120004:06
martinaldcrimsun, do you know what's going wrong?04:06
spikebbah04:06
crimsun(sec, just returned)04:06
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snowyeah mine will only do 70 at this reso04:06
crimsunycco: still not working?04:08
yccocrimsun nosir...04:08
yccocrimsun I pasted an updated X log.04:08
crimsunycco: yeah, just read it04:08
snowthis isn't too bad to use actually, coming from a microsoft background lol04:09
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martinaldit's a lot better than it used to be04:10
yccocrimsun hmm, that files section is from the default Ubuntu XF86Config-4 file.   (I made a backup copy of the original before I touched it.04:10
snowi saw that the internet and network setup itself, that was sweet04:10
martinald*shudder* KDE 1.0 w/ mandrake 704:10
HrdwrBoByech04:10
snowis there any kind of auto detect with this os?04:10
martinaldyes, ubuntu is simply amazing at setting hardware up04:10
martinaldyup04:10
HrdwrBoBsnow: yes, for the most part04:10
yccosnow most things just work.04:10
spikebi used to use gnome 1.0 and E04:11
spikebheh04:11
snowso, do I assume my usb printer has been setup already?04:11
martinaldi just plugged my wireless, microsoft, mouse into the USB port and less than a second later it had it all configured04:11
yccosnow you should run the printer tool in gnome.04:11
martinaldif the driver is there, i believe it will. it's very simple to configure it if it's not04:11
snowok, will look for that04:11
regeyahey, that was the first and last good release of mandrake, martinald :-P04:11
martinaldi ran it on a p133 w/ 16mb ram and a 2.5GB hdd04:12
martinaldit took over 8 hours to install04:12
crimsunmartinald: I will try and build against warty in a sec. Give me a few, juggling multiple issues here.04:12
martinaldsure. i'm on hoary here, but that shouldn't matter?04:12
crimsunycco: would you paste your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4?04:12
yccocrimsun sure.04:13
snowwow, that was easy! it setup it ok04:13
luc1f3rregeya, I'm installing dvdrip w/ APT04:13
regeyawowie zowie, that took a long time, luc1f3r04:13
regeyaluc1f3r, and what package is refusing to install?04:14
luc1f3rregeya, sorry, was eating dinner04:14
martinaldsnow. good to hear. have you used synaptic?04:14
yccocrimsun done04:14
snowmy other experence with linux was using slackware on a p133 laptop, I wasn't impressed ;p04:14
martinaldlol04:14
snowno, what's synaptic?04:14
luc1f3rregeya, libgtk-perl libgtk-pixbuf-perl transcode fping libevent-perl04:14
luc1f3rall of those04:14
regeyahm.04:14
martinaldsynaptic manages installing and upgrading your system. you can install thousands of apps with one click, and upgrade every application on your computer with two04:15
crimsunmartinald: I can't find a 'gnome-outliner' on sf04:15
martinaldgnomeoutliner.sf.net?04:15
luc1f3rregeya,04:15
luc1f3rThe following packages have unmet dependencies:04:15
luc1f3r  dvdrip: Depends: libgtk-perl but it is not installable04:15
luc1f3r          Depends: libgtk-pixbuf-perl but it is not installable04:15
luc1f3r          Depends: transcode (>= 2:0.6.6) but it is not installable04:15
snowkick ass!04:15
luc1f3r          Depends: fping but it is not installable04:15
luc1f3r          Depends: libevent-perl but it is not installable04:15
luc1f3rE: Broken packages04:15
crimsunmartinald: ah, you inserted an extraneous hyphen :)04:15
martinaldsorry :-\04:16
regeyaluc1f3r, I take it you're trying to install dvdrip from the marillat repo?  if you're trying to use the unstable repo, it wants newer packages than warty has.  you'll either need to backport those packages, or temporarily add hoary repos.  I recommend against adding both hoary and warty and trying to pin, because I had problems with that.04:16
regeyamy wife beckons.04:16
yccoluc1f3r please use #flood for pasting more than 2 lines.04:16
regeyaI shall be gone for a while.04:16
yccoluc1f3r or pastebin.com heh04:16
luc1f3rycco, what's that?04:16
yccoluc1f3r it is considered impolite to paste more than 2 lines on irc.  It's called flooding and can mess with dial-up users connections.04:17
crimsunmartinald: just built fine here in a warty chroot04:17
crimsunmartinald: so the problem is local to your configuration04:17
crimsun(as I suspected)04:17
yccoluc1f3r so you should use #flood if you have to paste stuff.  or... the pastebin.com site.  (I'm not in X or I'd paste the curl thing... -- I feel like a fish out of water in command line)04:18
luc1f3rycco, okay04:18
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yccocrimsun I've found me a job on #ubuntu!04:18
yccoheh04:18
martinaldi compiled glib by source, but I'm sure that was 2.4.004:19
crimsunycco ;)04:19
nomasteryodalol04:19
martinalddo you know how i can force it to uninstall entirely and reinstall?04:19
crimsunmartinald: uh...04:19
ycconomasteryoda you aren't watching the game?  (half-time now)04:19
crimsunmartinald: you do know that installs to /usr/local by default?04:19
martinaldhow do you mean?04:19
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nomasteryodahuh... nope04:19
ycconomasteryoda USC is SPANKING OU.04:19
crimsunmartinald: did you pass --prefix to ./configure ?04:19
nomasteryodatoo busy on linuxshow irc and here04:20
martinaldwhich prefix?04:20
nomasteryodahehe04:20
ycco--prefix=/usr ?04:20
martinaldi'll try that04:20
crimsunmartinald: no04:20
crimsundo _not_04:20
yccomartinald confirm with crimsun04:20
yccoheh04:20
yccomartinald I don't know what I'm talking about here.04:20
martinaldwhat do you mean?04:20
crimsunyou will completely screw your current glib package handled by ubuntu (2.6.0)04:20
martinaldright04:20
yccoeeek, /me remembers never to suggest that again.04:21
martinaldwell i did it with gnome-outliner's configure and it made no difference04:21
crimsunI advise you clean out /usr/local/lib/pkgconfig of any glib*04:21
martinaldhow do i do that?04:21
martinaldrm?04:21
martinaldrm glib-2.0.pc?04:22
ycconomasteryoda hey04:22
crimsunmartinald: look recursively in /usr/local and erase anything related to glib04:22
martinaldok04:22
ycconomasteryoda can you get me your XF86Config-4 file from your 7500?04:22
nomasteryodalet me boot it up04:22
yccocrimsun this may be the easiest way.04:23
crimsunycco: ok.04:23
yccohe has the same laptop with X working at 1024x76804:23
martinaldoh fuck.04:23
martinaldi think i've just done something quite bad04:23
yccomartinald potty mouth. :)04:23
yccohahaha04:23
crimsunwell if you're running hoary nothing's that important04:23
nomasteryodayea, potty mouth04:24
crimsun:P04:24
martinald???04:24
yccoYou can't hear this chick singing04:24
yccotoo funny04:24
ycconomasteryoda turn on the half-time show.04:24
crimsunycco: who's singing?04:24
martinaldi removed the reference to glib in the folder you mentioned04:24
martinaldbut now it complains that it can't find GTK 2.004:24
yccocrimsun hmmm, Jessica Simpson?  Don't really know.04:24
nomasteryodaycco, might see some nip?04:24
nomasteryodahehe04:24
yccoYou can't hear her.04:24
ycconomasteryoda haha04:24
yccoI love technical difficulties at live events.04:25
yccoyou can hear her now.04:25
crimsunmartinald: please tell me you didn't compile gtk 2.[0246]  as well04:25
martinaldno04:25
martinaldjust libtool04:25
martinaldnot libtool04:25
martinaldjesus, glib.04:25
martinaldoh shit, maybe it was libtool i compiled04:25
crimsun...04:25
martinaldi don't know04:26
crimsunoh man.04:26
martinaldlol04:26
luc1f3rSomeone help me install dvdrip??04:26
crimsunpaste the directory listing of /usr/local/lib/pkgconfig in #flood04:26
luc1f3rI'm having trouble with dependencies04:26
crimsun^ martinald04:26
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ycconomasteryoda you hooking a home dog up?04:26
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martinalddone04:27
Quest-MasterIs it really not possible to resize an ext3 partition?04:27
crimsunmartinald: those are all for glib04:27
martinaldright04:28
crimsunmartinald: you need to erase anything in /usr/local related to glib04:28
martinaldi deleted the glib file in there04:28
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martinaldso rm -r glib*?04:28
crimsunmartinald: no, those files you just listed are also part of glib04:28
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martinaldright. so how do i know which files are related to glib04:28
DanielCGreetings everyone. I'm playing with my brand new Ubuntu installation and I'm happy. Does anyone know if there is a "alarm clock" I can install?04:28
crimsunmartinald: anything with those filenames in /usr/local/* are04:29
DanielCI searched on Synaptic for "alarm" but I didn't find anything.04:29
martinaldcould i just uninstall with synaptic?04:29
yccoDanielC you can do this:  (in a terminal)  sudo apt-cache search alarm04:29
crimsunmartinald: how can you uninstall with synaptic if you didn't install with synaptic by compiling manually from tarball, and therefore synaptic doesn't know?04:30
yccoDanielC you may want to also include the universe packages in your /etc/apt/sources.list04:30
martinaldbecause i assume it's in the same directories as synaptic would of put it and synaptic is saying it's installed?04:30
DanielCycco: by default, it only shows a firewall. How do I add "universe" to the sources?04:30
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crimsunmartinald: that's precisely my point: you assume(d) incorrectly.04:30
yccoDanielC you can edit the file and uncomment the universe line. :)04:30
DanielCycco: beauty!  Thanks!04:31
yccoDanielC you'll have to sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade afterwards though.04:31
crimsunmartinald: by default, things will install into --prefix=/usr/local04:31
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martinaldok04:31
martinaldok04:31
martinaldok04:31
martinaldi see04:31
yccoDanielC good luck to you.04:31
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martinaldi get you now04:31
martinaldis it possible to make clean or something?04:31
DanielCycco: thanks  -- Ubuntu rocks btw :-)04:31
yccoDanielC I concur :)04:31
nmyodaycco, so where do you want it?04:31
crimsunmartinald: if you still have the compiled source, try `make uninstall' or `make deinstall'04:31
ycconmyoda sec.... can you dcc ?04:32
nmyodawill try04:32
ycconmyoda not here... hang on.04:32
martinaldok i tried make clean which is obviously the wrong command lol04:32
nmyodaport is open on server04:32
nmyodaok04:32
martinaldright it's deleting stuff04:32
DanielCycco: Is there a way to tell, on Synaptic, that a given package is from 'universe' ?04:32
ycconmyoda unless you have a place I can wget it from.04:32
nmyodagive sec04:32
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crimsunDanielC: there is via the commandline using apt-cache(8) policy04:33
DanielCok04:33
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martinaldcrimson, i have nothing in the /usr/local/lib/pkg-config now04:34
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Cranehello04:35
martinaldand i have nothing related to glib in /usr/local04:35
Craneanyone using fluxbox04:35
Crane?04:35
xhypnoyes, but not on ubuntu, on my slack box04:36
xhypnoI can ans ?'s though04:36
yccoDanielC sorry, I don't use Synaptic. :/  (not in X now either)04:36
CraneI just installed it on my ubuntu and I have no menus?04:36
DanielCycco: ok, np. thanks04:36
crimsunCrane: fluxbox does not conform to the fd.org menu layout yet04:37
martinaldcrimsun, how would i set my PKG_CONFIG_PATH? if you happen to know04:37
nmyodaok... so we see if that works04:37
crimsunmartinald: you should not need to set it.04:38
xhypnoAnyone having Zonefile probs with Bind6 on Warty04:38
crimsunbind6?04:38
nmyodaman i sure love this Ubuntu04:38
ycconmyoda hmmmm oooooh k.04:38
Crane<---- n00b what do you mean fd.org crimsun?04:38
nmyodai need it on my new laptop04:38
yccocrimsun I have his XF86Config file, same exact hardware.... and it doesn't work.04:38
ycco:/04:38
snownmyoda i've been using it for 10mins and I like it :)04:38
nmyodacrap man04:38
crimsunmartinald: make absolutely sure you have _nothing_ related to gtk or glib in /usr/local/*04:38
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crimsunmartinald: then execute: `sudo ldconfig'04:38
crimsunmartinald: then clean the source for gnomeoutliner, then rerun ./configure04:39
nmyodathat should have worked04:39
Guardiannanyone know why i cant get on localhost04:39
nevynGuardiann: "get on localhost"04:40
nevyn?04:40
Guardiannto set up my printer04:41
martinaldchecking for glib-2.0 >= 2.4.0 gtk+-2.0 >= 2.4.0 libxml-2.0 >= 2.6.8 libgnome-2.0 >= 2.6.0 libgnomeui-2.0 >= 2.6.0... Package gtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path.04:41
nmyodasnow, congrats man04:41
nmyodavery fast and gnome is so simple04:41
nevynwhere is the ubuntu tool for configuring printing?04:41
Guardiannit doesnt work for me04:42
martinaldwhich port do you need to forward for vino?04:42
martinaldaka remote desktop sharing04:42
nevynGuardiann:how doesn't work?04:42
nmyodagnome-cups-manager04:43
yccocrimsun pasted new /var/log/XF86Config.0.log and /etc/X11/XF86Config-404:43
snownmyoda yeah if I can get my parents to use it I'll keep it on here vs xp, they had so many problems with that04:43
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crimsunk04:44
nmyodasnow, too many people do04:44
yccocrimsun now I'm using the same XF86Config-4 file that nomasteryoda has on his Ubuntu laptop (Same as my Dell Insprion 7500)04:44
nmyodawindows is crap for the average computer user who wants just to read email and surf web04:44
martinaldoh god, don't start the windows bashing stuff04:44
nmyodalol04:45
yccoheh04:45
Guardiannnevyn webrowser loclahost:63104:45
nmyodano, just telling some truth04:45
martinaldwell ok04:45
yccoyeah, I would agree with that.04:45
martinaldbut windows is very useful and stable for many people04:45
yccomartinald I haven't met any of those people.04:45
JDahlGuardiann, that doesnt work in ubuntu does it? you to use the gtk configuration tool04:45
yccomartinald but ok.04:45
martinaldk well you just have.04:46
yccomartinald ahh ok.04:46
nmyodamartinald, then you are one of the few04:46
ycco1 down.04:46
nmyoda1 down out of millions04:46
Guardiannwhats the gtk tool04:46
nevynGuardiann: HOW does the printer tool not work for you?04:46
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yccowe should post that on slashdot   1 person uses windows successfully.  That's news!04:46
nmyodagnome-cups-manager04:46
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nevynGuardiann: gnome-cups-manager04:46
JDahlGuardiann, cups configuration04:46
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nmyodaycco, LOL04:46
nevynJDahl: thankyou.04:46
Guardiannyep wont see the printer04:46
regeyaoh dear hey04:47
regeyalook it's Guardiann04:47
Guardiannhello04:47
regeyahey Guardiann, the printer won't show up automagically, AFAIK04:47
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nmyodaGuardiann, is it usb?04:47
regeyayou have to doubleclick on the "New Printer" icon...duh.04:47
Guardiannnope it par04:47
nmyodaok04:47
crimsunycco: so this config works, correct?04:48
Guardiannregeya yep just like windows04:48
yccocrimsun it works for nomasteryoda04:50
yccocrimsun doesn't work for me.04:50
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adoyretsamonyes04:50
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yccocrimsun X trys to start... but I never get anything.04:50
adoyretsamoni'm using it under the nmyoda name04:50
adoyretsamonright now04:50
yccocrimsun I actually get the ubuntu sounds04:50
yccowhich is odd04:50
yccoyeah, I get the ubuntu sounds... (with gdm I presume) but don't get a display.  Just black screen.04:50
crimsunycco: same kernel, same /proc/cmdline, same modules loaded as nmyoda?04:51
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nmyodayes should be04:51
yccocrimsun default warty ubuntu, unless he's using hoary04:51
nmyodacrimsun, warty04:52
yccoonly thing I have that might be odd is universe.04:52
yccoheh04:52
yccoand I've apt-get updated and apt-get dist-upgraded today.04:52
yccobut other than that....04:52
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Guardiannok once again thanks for the help04:53
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Guardiannlater04:53
yccothis is where I wish we had a gui X configuration tool.04:53
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nmyodaycco, that would be nice04:53
crimsunycco: do you remember what resolution and refresh rate you wanted?04:54
ycco1400x1050  refresh rate... not sure.04:54
nmyoda60hz?04:54
nevyneww04:54
yccowhatever works for the display.04:54
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nmyodaycco, see mine has never liked anything but 1024x76804:55
nmyodaeven in winders04:55
ycco        HorizSync    31.5 - 90.004:55
ycco        VertRefresh  59.0 - 75.004:55
yccoand then... I also had this.04:56
ycco        ModelName    "LCD Panel 1400x1050"04:56
ycconmyoda I've used 1400x1050 on this laptop every since I bought it in 200004:56
ycconmyoda with Linux and Redhat 7/8/9 FC104:56
nmyodawell, i will risk changing in ubuntu.. for you... to see if mine gets hosed too...hehe04:56
twisted_steelI'm using that same res. on my laptop as well04:57
crimsunycco: any idea why your listed HorizSync and VertRefresh don't correspond with the values you just pasted?04:57
crimsunHorizSync 28-49, VertRefresh 43-7204:57
yccocrimsun the ones I pasted are from his laptop04:57
yccoerrr04:57
yccough.04:57
nmyodaah04:57
nmyodathat could be it04:57
yccoThe ones I pasted were from my old FC1 XF86Config file.04:57
crimsunok, let's try your HorizSync and VertRefresh values from the old FC1 XF86Config04:58
yccooh ok...04:58
nmyodaycco, did you try dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xfree8604:58
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ycconmyoda didn't try that.04:59
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nmyodafound on wiki05:00
crimsunmartinald: did you ever resolve the glib issue?05:00
yccocrimsun that didn't work. :/05:00
martinaldnope05:00
Quest-Masterhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=43383#post43383 <-- :(!!!05:00
crimsunycco: you don't happen to have a lcd+crt toggle using the function key, do you?05:00
HrdwrBoBQuest-Master: ext3 is resizable05:01
yccocrimsun heh, let me check that.05:01
HrdwrBoBwhy do you have to resize often?05:01
ycconmyoda no luck, but I got sound. heh.05:01
nmyodalol05:01
nmyodaok05:01
nmyodai'm trying that same string here05:02
nmyodaon this one05:02
qmaster_Because I have a small hard drive and have to manage my brother on Windows and myself on Ubuntu. ;d05:02
grepperanyone know the prefered way to set mtu when using dhcp ?  When I used static I just put "mtu  N" in interfaces under eth005:02
qmaster_HrdwrBoB: Why can't I resize it then?05:02
yccocrimsun no.... fn+CRT/LCD isn't doing anything05:03
yccofreakin' wild05:03
ycco:(05:03
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joshuahi05:04
HrdwrBoBqmaster_: you can't move the start of the partition05:04
joshuadoes anyone run on a laptop and hibernate (save to disk) ?05:04
nomasteryodai used to05:05
joshuanomasteryoda you used to be able to hibernate? no longer?05:05
Quest-MasterMeaning I can't restart it HrdwrBoB? :(05:05
crimsunycco: hmm.05:06
qmaster_Ack05:06
qmaster_I meant05:06
qmaster_Resize.05:06
qmaster_:P05:06
yccocrimsun yeah, me too.05:06
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joshuanomasteryoda: was it very difficult to get working?05:07
yccothe fact that the sounds start up, seem to indicate that GDM is actually starting.05:07
nomasteryodajoshua, on the old dell Insprion 750005:07
nomasteryodanot really05:07
nomasteryodabut then again, i had a suspend to disk file setup on that system05:07
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nomasteryodahave not tried it in a long time05:08
crimsunycco: ok, let's try another method: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop && startx05:10
yccocrimsun ok05:10
ycco * GNOME Display Manager not running                                     [ ok ] 05:11
yccoseems like it's doing something.05:11
yccobut can't see it. :)05:11
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crimsunjust a black screen?05:12
yccoyah05:12
yccojust a black screen.05:12
crimsunok, ctrl+alt+backspace should kill it and return you to the prompt05:12
nmyodaycco, mine won't take that resolution at all...05:12
nmyodacrap05:12
crimsunnmyoda: can you adjust the DefaultDepth to 16 ?05:12
crimsunerr05:12
nmyodawill try05:13
crimsunthat was to ycco05:13
yccohmmmmmm05:13
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nmyodaok05:13
crimsunsorry nmyoda, disregard that05:13
yccohey guys....05:13
nmyodai tried 24 bit05:13
yccoWould there be a problem with some sort of host issues?05:13
nmyodayes05:13
yccolike...05:13
yccoI was at your house right... and....05:13
nmyodayou bet05:13
crimsunycco: quite possibly if your dhcp lease gives you a new hostname, and ...05:13
nmyodathat is it05:13
yccoI'm getting a really slow long pause...05:13
nmyodayou have it...05:13
nmyodanail on the head05:14
yccowell... but where is it?05:14
yccoheh05:14
yccoresolv.conf?05:14
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yccohmm05:15
yccotook out the kool-aid stuff05:16
yccoheh05:16
yccoand the 192.168.1.1 nameserver.05:16
yccoand it is setup as how it should be.05:16
yccostopped gdm and restarted.05:16
nmyodaifdown ifup05:16
yccostill no love.  black screen05:16
yccooh, need to bring down the interface?05:16
nmyodai would05:16
ycco(I did the commands manually)05:16
nmyodayea05:16
nmyodaok05:16
yccoshouldn't matter though... but.05:17
yccohmmm05:17
yccowhere is it set that it puts that stuff in automatically at boot?05:17
yccoor how can I reconfigure network stuff through dpkg05:17
yccoheh05:17
crimsunyou'd need to edit /etc/network/interfaces05:17
yccok05:18
yccoyeah, eth0 isn't auto05:18
yccoI'm good05:18
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yccoI'm obviously on the net :)05:18
nmyodalol05:18
ycco<tap> this thing *screeeech* on? <tap> <tap>05:19
ycco*chuckle*05:19
nmyodabrb..05:19
ycconomasteryoda hey... install FC1 on that laptop and I'll guaren-dang-tee you you'll get 1400x105005:19
nomasteryodawow05:20
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xedAnyone have any tips on reserving battery power when using laptop on battery power...?05:22
xedwith Ubuntu that is05:22
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lukinsanyone have problem where gnome-panels are just blank05:23
Muskrathttp://cam64000.miemasu.net/ViewerFrame?Mode=Motion&Resolution=320x240&Quality=Motion&Interval=30&Size=STD&PresetOperation=Move&Language=005:23
method55i have asked this before but im doing a fresh reformat...should i format the partition im installing windows as FAT if i want to be able to access certain things in my linux partition05:24
method55?05:24
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yccomethod55 yeah, that's fine.05:25
yccomethod55 do the windows as fat3205:25
method55okay05:25
yccomethod55 and then do your linux partition as ext305:25
yccoand your swap partition as swap :)05:25
method55im making 1 for windows as FAT, another for linux and another for storage as FAT05:25
method55yeah well ubuntu makes the swap partition when i install05:25
xedcan someone briefly explain to me what the use of the swap partition is?05:26
yccomethod55 I'd create a.) windows partiton  b.) linux partition c.) swap partition.05:26
yccoxed when you run out of ran, it uses disc space.05:26
yccoerrr disk space.05:26
yccough05:26
yccowhen you run out of ram.05:26
xedram?05:26
ycco:)05:27
melazyboyits the equiv of windows virtual memmory05:27
xedOh..05:27
xedMaybe I should've made a larger swap partition then...?05:27
yccoxed how much ram do you have?05:27
xed512 =\05:27
method55the way i have it is a 15gig windows FAT then a 15gig linux ext3 then a 30gig FAT storage, when i install linux it usually parts the linux partition so it has a SWAP partition in front of it...or at least it did it last time05:27
xedddr05:27
yccoxed 1G swap is fine (512 meg is fine too)05:27
xedand I think 64 is used by ATI card. =\05:27
melazyboywe just preallocate it to a certain sector and keep it a static size while windows dynamically reallocates it in a very slow manor.05:27
yccoxed typicaly you double your ram and that's your swap....   but... anything bigger than a 2Gig swap on a desktop box is silly.05:28
method55should i make a swap partition or should i let linux make it when i install05:28
ycco(anything bigger than 1 gig swap seems silly to me)05:28
xedycco: so it uses the harddrive space.. like it would with the RAM?05:28
melazyboyxed: yar05:28
yccoxed from my understanding yes, it uses your hd space when you run out of ram.05:28
method55does that sound good?05:28
method55i thought swap was kind of like windows page file...am i wrong?05:29
yccomethod55 up to you.  I choose to create my own manually. But you may want to let it automagically do it for you.05:29
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yccomethod55 don't know what windows page file is.05:29
yccoheh05:29
method55if i create it manually...will ubuntu pick up on it when i install?05:29
melazyboymethod55: window's 'page file' is virtual memmory05:29
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melazyboymethod55: if you mkswap and swapon05:30
SkifThis is weird... my laptop used to support CPU frequency scaling, but now the GNOME applet claims it doesn't. :P05:30
xedhmm..thats pretty cool.05:31
melazyboymethod55: ubuntu should do it for you05:31
xedBut ONLY if I run out of available RAM, right?05:31
method55what do you mean do it for me?05:31
melazyboySkif: Did you build your own kernel?05:31
Skifmelazyboy: nope05:31
Skifmelazyboy: well, yeah, but I'm not running it now. :)05:32
melazyboymethod55: If you set up a swap partition and install ubunutu, it should see that you have an already existing swap partition and ask if you wish to use it for that install as well -- historically people have had 5 distros of linux sharing the same swap drive05:32
xedHmm.. maybe I should've made the swap partition greater?05:33
melazyboySkif: got me, you can try restarting it in /etc/init.d/05:33
SkifI ran the script linked to from http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/CPUFreqModuleLoading but it claimed that my CPU did not support it.  Which wouldn't bother me, only it used to work. :P05:33
Skifmelazyboy: powernowd fails to start, but the init.d completes successfully :-\05:33
xedI wonder if there's any way to get ubuntu into using that hdd space that it uses for the swap to be used as the initial memory..05:33
melazyboyxed: 512meg swap is all you should ever need. if you cap it out you probably have a problem05:34
method55melzy: thanks, but i was going to partition the drive when i install winxp on the first partition, it has the option of partitioning the drive and formatting certain ones NTFS/FAT32 but i dont think i can format as a swap...if i leave the empty partition as just unallocated space will ubuntu ask me if i want to format it as swap?05:34
xedmelazyboy, what do you mean 'cap it out'?05:34
method55in that case i will just let ubuntu make the partition because i think it defaults it at 512?05:34
method55i have 512mb of RAM in this laptop...so another 512 swap would theoretically give me 1024mb which is more then enough for me05:35
melazyboymethod55: winxp can't handle any form of linux partition, the compromise is in vfat aka fat32, btw ntfs write support isn't avaiable for linux yet05:35
the--dudmethod55, the whole point of RAM is that it has 100th the access times of harddrives05:36
method55i know i cant read my NTFS partition from nix and my ext3 partition from win05:36
method55thats why im using FAT05:36
the--dudif you used your harddrive as RAM, it would be pointless05:36
yccobbiab.05:36
melazyboymethod55: Yes if you leave 512 megs of unpartitioned contigious space on your hard drive, then the ubuntu installer will pick it up and you can make that your swap05:36
xedI'm about to be disconnected, aren't I? -_-05:36
xeddamn neighbour's wifi05:36
nomasteryodalol05:36
xedAhoyhoy?05:37
melazyboyanyway just got my new episode of sg1, see ya later.05:37
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nomasteryodamelazyboy, where05:37
nomasteryodahehe05:37
method55i have always used NTFS for my windows partition...will FAT32 run just as well?05:37
melazyboythe only things i pirate are telivision its not fair, asia gets the cell phones 5 years before us, sweden the fiber internet connections 10years before us, and the whole fucking world watches telivision shows made in the US 6months before they syndicate here.. something is v. fishy05:38
method55haha05:38
nomasteryodatrue05:38
nomasteryodatv is the last hope05:38
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melazyboysg1 s8ep13 is out and sga s1ep16 is out you can find them on torrentreactor.to torrentreactor.net tvswarm.com torrentvortex.net among others05:40
melazyboysee you later and good night.05:40
the--dudsdsl is quite the news in the usa isnt it?05:40
the--dudor, do you have it?05:40
snowanyone here have a hp officejet 6110 3 in one runing on linux?05:40
blu1hello, im currently using mandrake 10.1 and in need to know reasons for switching to ubunty, and what kind of learning curve im looking at, keep in mind ive been on linux for a total of 1week05:41
the--dudblu1, if you like mandrake there's no real reason to change...05:41
melazyboyblu1: Read up on debs vs rpms, and check out the advantages of apt-get thats the only difference that will matter to you, but its very significant05:41
the--dudbut then again, is there anything specifically you dont like about mandrake?05:41
snowi find it easy to use and I've only ever used windows05:41
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rexiboyhello all :)05:42
the--dudhear hear, apt is superiour to rpm05:42
rexiboyrpm days are runing out!05:42
the--dudas long as you run warty, you can have a very newbie experience...05:42
blu1well, for instance, apt-get, how often are the sources updated? also, to what degree is more software available with apt-get?05:42
the--dudbut you'll get some pretty outdated applications, unless you want to tackle your way through hoary05:43
rexiboyjust did a fresh install of ubuntu, but when i try to install a theme it says: Insufficient permissions to install the theme" any idea?05:43
the--dudwarty being the *very overly cautious and stable* branch, and hoary being bleeding edge05:43
the--dudrexiboy, sudo?05:44
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melazyboyblu1: the sid repos is updated instantly the hoary repos (ubuntu maintained) is ubdated usually within a week or two of the release, and the stables are of coarse much like on non-cooker mandrake infrequently updated to ensure maximum stability05:44
rexiboythe--dud, this is wierd though I'm installing to my home dir05:44
yccoheh, lame but... rebooted.  Still no X love.05:44
melazyboyblu1:05:44
the--dudycco, xorg or xfree?05:45
ycco*yawn*05:45
yccothe--dud xfree05:45
melazyboyblu1: Infrequently meaning up to 6months old05:45
the--dudok, i prefer xorg...05:45
yccohmmm05:45
yccois it hard to switch from xfree to xorg?05:45
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ycconomasteryoda thanks for all your help bud.05:45
the--dudnah, just type apt-get install xserver-xorg05:46
yccocrimsun  you too.05:46
nomasteryodanp05:46
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snowanyone use an officjet in here?05:46
rexiboywhy do i need to sudo 2 install a theme???05:46
nomasteryodadid you get it running?05:46
the--dudor something similar, i think thats the package name05:46
yccothe--dud it'll use it instead of xfree then?05:46
ycconomasteryoda no.  :/05:46
nomasteryodaargh05:46
the--dudycco, itll automatically remove xfree05:46
nomasteryodaoh well05:46
yccogot nothing to lose at this point.05:46
the--dudbut in haory, it seems to have problems configuring xorg through dpkg-reconfigure, so you'll have to do xorgconf manually05:46
nomasteryodatrue...05:47
nomasteryodamy CDrom still works...hehe05:47
the--dudwhich is better any how, as you gain more control05:47
blu1well, then, urpmi is just about the same, it gets updated about the same?05:47
blu1ive been thinking about switching to debian, but ive heard that debian based distributions are better b/c they get updated more often than debian...05:47
yccohmm05:47
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blu1but enjoy virtually the same stability...05:48
yccoxorg isn't a package.05:48
xedhow do I turn off laptop-mode?05:48
the--dudxserver-xorg05:48
xednevermind05:48
rexiboyany idea about this theme business?? even as a root I have no permission!05:48
the--dudheh, prolly some dir thats chmodded 000 or such :o05:49
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xedwhy would anyone do that? =/05:49
yccothe--dud that's an hoary thing.05:50
rexiboythe--dud, how this is poss?05:50
xedchmod command?05:50
yccoit's not in warty05:50
rexiboydid 77705:50
HrdwrBoBblu1: obviously, we would recommend ubuntu :))05:50
the--dudtry find / -perm 00005:51
the--dudor something similar05:51
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blu1hrdwrbob: shrug, expected objectivity among "linux" userrs05:52
Jasoneyi ordered ubuntu cd's on dec 5 and was wondering when they might arrive05:52
rexiboyfind: /proc/7579/task/7579/fd/4: No such file or directory05:52
HrdwrBoBblu1: that is my objective recommendation05:53
=== the--dud wonders when a gnome fix will arrive for these small icons/tabs on the panel....
the--dudnever? :/05:53
the--dudits really getting annoying05:53
HrdwrBoBblu1: I've used most other distros and prefer ubuntu05:53
yccoheck, even over a modem it shouldn't take you more than a day if you dl' it. :)05:53
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rexiboyHrdwrBoB, wait till yoper 2.2 is out :)05:53
yccodl the iso image that is.05:53
the--dudyoper has such a horrible package management... untill they fix up each and every single package, yoper is unusable05:53
yccoget a cheap 2x cdrom05:53
yccoand you are golden.05:54
liberioni like my own distro05:54
yccoerrr cdr05:54
liberioni built05:54
xedDo I need some sort of dvd driver or something installed for my dvd rom to work?05:54
rexiboythe--dud, they are using apt-get and the list is growing, not as big as debian...05:54
nomasteryodaxed, as in movie dvds?05:54
rexiboyxed, get xine and it should work05:55
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nomasteryodayes05:55
xedI have xine.05:55
the--dudrexiboy, yeah, but in my experience... something like 25% of their packages had errors05:55
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xedI'm just wondering..05:55
liberionxed: make sure libdvdnav libdvdread libdvdcss is installed05:55
the--duddependencies, lacking information, poor file struct, etc05:55
xedNormally it takes me 10 minutes to copy a dvd to hdd05:55
xedbut for some reason it's taking me 30 minutes for one dvd =\05:55
rexiboythe--dud, wierd :)05:55
liberionxed: then chmod 777 /dev/dvd and link that first to dev05:55
nomasteryodaxed, hdparm... change drive settings...05:55
nomasteryodamake sure dma is on05:55
xedhdparm?05:55
=== rexiboy got to go and work this theme issue!
xedsomeone makes sense05:56
nomasteryodaxed, link... just a sec05:56
the--dudim wondering about a little thingie...05:56
xedlin..k..?05:56
liberionhey guys whats a good hdparm setting ya think05:56
the--dudspeaking about linking dvd to /dev/dvd05:56
the--dudi have two ide dvd players, one is a burner05:56
the--dudand i dont want to statically link one, so that i can only *play* dvd's on one of my trays05:57
the--dudshould be some fancy dynamic way to do it...05:57
liberionthe--dud: what to play 2 dvd drives05:57
the--dudnah, but one day i might want to use the burner for playback, and the next id want to use the other05:58
the--dudits not a problem by far, but it just seems weird that you have to link it in such manners05:58
liberionthe--dud: just loop them05:58
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nomasteryodahdparm settings... look at /usr/share/doc/hdparm/README.Debian05:59
the--dudcome to think of it... why exactly does xine and the rest of the dvd players insist on using /dev/dvd?05:59
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yccoheh05:59
nomasteryodalol05:59
liberionnomasteryoda: nah just looking for preferences mostly06:00
nomasteryodaok06:00
the--dudcouldnt it just look at any available drives, and see who has a dvd in it?06:00
the--dudand if both has, it could just prompt the user...06:00
ycconomasteryoda what is your host called?06:00
xedWhat were you saying about hdparm nomasteryoda?06:00
yccocool-aid?06:00
yccoI wanna grep for it in my X configs06:00
nomasteryodaon this new Dell d505 latitude.. i use this "hdparm -X69 -d1 -u1 -m16 -c3 /dev/hda"06:01
nomasteryodabut it is a fast drive too06:01
liberionthe--dud: dvd are prone to region code and tricks so they cant be played i my system automatically detect dvd after i built xine06:01
ycconomasteryoda will that work on the Dell 7500?06:01
ycconomasteryoda that hdparm thing?06:01
nomasteryodaycco, change the X6906:02
nomasteryodato something smaller06:02
nomasteryodalike X6806:02
ycconomasteryoda heh, it won't hurt it will it?06:02
nomasteryodathose are the HD speeds ... like06:02
the--dudat least early dvd-roms has the rather lame locking to a specific region06:02
nomasteryodayea06:02
nomasteryodalock it up06:02
the--dudi havent seen that in about 2-3 years time on dvd-roms06:02
ycconomasteryoda don't want to lock up my hard drive :P06:02
nomasteryodalol06:02
nomasteryodaonly for reboot06:02
nomasteryodaheh06:02
nomasteryodaX68 should work06:02
ycco"hdparm -X69 -d106:02
ycco               -u1 -m16 -c3 /dev/hda"06:03
yccoooops06:03
nomasteryodawould be a 66mhz06:03
nomasteryodamine is 133mhz i think06:03
yccohdparm -X68 -d1 -u1 -m16 -c3 /dev/hda  would harm the 7500?06:03
nomasteryodathat should work... let me ck06:03
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the--dudarg, i really wish that linux had some sort of competitor for protools/cubase/cakewalk06:04
the--duda real powerful and user friendly DAW06:05
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the--dudardour and audicity just isnt any good06:05
liberionnomasteryoda: dont forget -a806:05
the--dudnot compared to protools any how06:05
xednomasteryoda, I'm not familiar with setting hdparm =(06:07
yccowell... I need to get sleep.  Tx crimsun  and nomasteryoda   I'll check in tomorrow and see if we can't get X up and going.  :/06:07
ycconight guys06:08
the--dudhmm, dist-upgrade seemed to disable my sound device...06:09
the--dudbrb, rebooting06:09
nomasteryodanite06:10
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xedAnyone have any error messages come up when using gaim?06:14
xedie "Error contacting server switchboard"06:14
xedor something similar to that06:14
ubuntu_foollooking for help connecting ubuntu live to a WinXP system using smbclient.  Anyone here who can help?06:15
nomasteryodaxed, check proxy06:15
xedeh?06:15
nomasteryodaxed, under the gaim settings06:15
nomasteryodapreferences06:15
nomasteryodaubuntu_fool06:15
nomasteryodatry smb://ipaddress of winbox/sharename06:16
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xednomasteryoda, I.. don't see anything thats relating to proxies..06:18
nomasteryodajust sec06:19
xedAlrighty06:19
ubuntu_foolmany thanks!06:19
nomasteryodaok06:19
nomasteryodanp06:19
nomasteryodawelcome06:19
nomasteryodalol06:19
nomasteryodaxed, under the Preferences06:20
nomasteryodaNetwork06:20
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the--duddist-upgrade killed my sound it seems...06:20
nomasteryodaif you might be behind a proxy, select environmental06:20
the--dudhow inconvenient...06:20
nomasteryodawow06:20
xedokay, well I'm not..06:20
xedbut I'll select it anyways06:20
nomasteryodathe--dud, try changing using alsamixer06:20
nomasteryodaok06:20
nomasteryodamight help06:20
xedThanks a bunch06:21
nomasteryodanp06:21
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the--dudhmm, the soundjuicer app can play mp3s06:26
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the--dudbut the same mp3s are dead in xine/totem06:26
the--dudhmm, a whole crap load of xine plugins got wiped out!06:28
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dabaslonHey, anyone awake?06:31
dabaslonI guess you are..06:31
the--dudi were actually using my sound today >_<06:31
dabaslonWhat do I do if I want to search kazaa for a file?06:31
dabaslonWhat do I need to use?06:31
spikebheh06:31
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dabaslon:)06:32
xedWhat's the latest version of Gaim released for ubuntu?06:32
dabaslonI want to find some ebooks.06:32
spikeb1.1.0 is in hoary i believe06:32
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dabaslonSo anyone have any ideas on my kazaa dilemma?06:33
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dr_williswaiting fior the Ubuntu live cd to download so i can burn it and play with it. How does it compare to say, Morphix, or Knoppix?06:34
spikebit uses gnome.06:34
dr_willisit just a 'test' out linux sort of cd. or got a large set of tools? office apps? system recovery? ect. :p06:35
dr_willisie: whats its "design goal" :P whats it ment to be used for.06:35
spikebdr_willis,  it has quite a bit installed - openoffice.org, firefox, gaim, rhythmbox, etc are all on the cd06:36
dr_willisi just seem to have a large collection of live cd's LOL. :P06:36
spikebaside from being slow (it's a livecd) it's very usable06:36
snowcan anyone tell me why my sound wants to return to the lowest setting?06:36
dr_willisso a general purpose 'untrashable' system :P06:36
spikebsnow, probably alsa stupidity06:36
spikebdr_willis, other than the fact that it may mount some of your partitions if it recognizes them, yes06:36
spikebheh06:36
snowalsa?06:37
dr_williscool. smart enough to see the swap partion and so on. :P06:37
dr_willisKnoppix has saved me MANY an hour of work in the past.06:37
spikebsnow, yeah the sound system for kernel 2.6.x06:37
xedWhats the latest version of Mozilla for Ubuntu?06:37
spikebsnow, it defaults to muted06:37
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snowuh well how do I stop that, I move the volume bar and it moves back down06:38
spikebhmm06:38
the--dudsooo... esd sound driver works06:38
spikebim not sure - mine cooperates with me06:38
the--dudbut not alsa or oss it seems06:38
dr_willishmm esd is a sound deamon that then uses ALSA isent it?06:39
dr_willisor am i confused.06:39
dr_willisapp-->Deamon-->drivers06:39
spikebdr_willis, generally, but some sound applications can skip the daemon06:39
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xedWhats the latest version of Mozilla for Ubuntu?06:40
the--dudjust when i was thinking everything was so darn nice hehe06:40
the--dudsomething has to get borked right up06:40
spikebfirefox 0.93 is installed by default06:40
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odysseycould someone please tell me what package provides "make-kpkg"?06:41
xedspikeb, but what's the latest?06:41
spikebxed, that is the latest, if you don't use a backport.06:42
xedwhat's a backport?06:42
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spikebxed, a package taken from a newer version of ubuntu (the unstable version in this case), tested a little, and made available for the stable version06:42
dr_willissounds like a 'nice name' for a dirty body part. Lol :P06:42
xedoh..06:42
xedI don't.. think I'm using that06:43
spikebprobably not. :)06:43
the--dudhmmmmmm, so.... ill try doing a full reboot06:43
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zenroxis thare a way to speed up file transvers from a win machine to linux06:46
zenrox3 mbs now and its a 100mb network06:46
dudok... a restart did wonders for my sound06:46
dr_williszenrox,  depends - ya useing samba? or ssh?06:46
dudweird stuff06:47
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zenroxsamba06:47
dr_willisi think there may be a tweak or 2 in the smb.conf - but prioberly wont gain ya much.06:47
zenroxdr_willis,  i am using samba06:47
zenroxprobly06:47
dr_willisanyone else conferm that samba is faster or slower then useing ssh?06:47
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dr_willisuseing "winscp" now to move a large # of files to a win box. and it seems vbery slow also.06:48
zenroxssh woudl it be hard to get dirs06:48
dr_willis:) Winscp makes that easy06:48
zenroxcasue i am moving mp3s from win to nix06:48
xedhow do I install a file using command line?06:48
dr_williszenrox,  heh heh -06:48
xedsudo install <filename> right?06:48
zenroxxed,  no06:48
xedhmm06:48
xedsudo dpkg install <filename> ?06:49
zenroxsudo dpkg install filename.deb06:49
xedDamnit, I should stop guessing06:49
xedhey! I was right!06:49
zenroxlol06:49
dr_willisisent there an install program taht does 'somthing' but Not what you are wanting to do  :P06:49
xedonly .deb files?06:49
zenroxxed yes06:49
xedOh man =906:49
xed=(06:49
xedwhat bout .gz files?06:50
dr_willisdpkg is the '.deb' package manager.  other types of programs/things may need other tools./commands.06:50
zenroxonly deb files a tar.gz file you have to extract it and compile it06:50
Faustushi, what this bus about having to add font paths to XF86Config-4 upon installing.  They are already there.  This same message also mentions deleting any mention of /usr/lib/X11/fonts/CID in any file, is this limited to /etc/X11fs/config and /etc/X11/fs-xtt/config, that don't exist, or does it include removing it from XF86Config-4?06:50
xedhow do I go about doing that zenrox, in the console atleast?06:50
dr_willisa .gz file could be most anything. nothing special abouit it.. it should have some install docs :p06:50
zenroxxed tar -xzvf filrename.tar.gz06:50
dr_willisa .tgz is also a .tar.gz file.06:50
zenroxxed if bz2 then its tar -xjvf filename.tar.bz206:51
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xedzenrox, firefox-1.0.installer.tar.gz <-- thats the file name.06:53
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zenroxxed extract that doing tar -xzvf fireblabla.tar.gz06:53
xedDone that..06:54
zenroxthen go in to the dir06:54
zenroxand do sudo ./installer06:54
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sexyteethhey06:55
zenroxhello06:55
sexyteethfirst time in X-chat...how's it going?06:55
zenroxgoes just fine06:56
sexyteethhow long have you been using X?06:56
zenroxxchat??06:57
sexyteethyes. not the drug06:57
zenroxoff an on for 6 years06:58
zenroxthats goes for linux too06:58
sexyteethI'm new to linux as well06:58
sexyteethi used windows for 6 years06:58
sexyteethfeels like starting from scratch06:59
zenroxsexyteeth,  you'll love it once you start to understand how it works06:59
sexyteethi like things about it...and it intreages me06:59
sexyteethbut pisses me off I can't change a mp3 into a wave file yet07:00
zenroxsexyteeth,  i just wanted a chalange and i found it starting with rh 7.007:00
sexyteethoh i'm using ubuntu....i understand it's easier than red hat.07:00
zenroxrh 7.0 -7.2 mdk 9.0 -10.1 gentoo, suse 8.0-9.0 then ubuntu07:00
zenroxthoes are the distros i have used07:01
zenroxand i live ubuntu07:01
zenroxlove07:01
sexyteethubuntu seems cool. but like i said...i don't know how to do some stuff that used to be simple to me07:01
sexyteethcan't even print yet07:02
zenroxsexyteeth,  have http://ubuntuguide.org in your bookmarcks then07:02
sexyteeth=(07:02
zenroxand www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki07:02
zenroxand www.ubuntuforums.org too07:03
izaaci use to do everything with ubuntu except karaoke cds hehe07:03
izaaceven DVD Backups07:03
sexyteethi know it can be done07:04
sexyteethseems ten times harder than windows07:04
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izaacsexyteeth: configure a printer is a pieace of cake07:05
sexyteethi've contemplated getting another PC...so I can have windows on it...and just send the mp3's to it and change them into waves using cool edit07:05
izaacthere are a lot of front ends for cupsys07:06
izaacsexyteeth: use xmms07:06
sexyteethseems expensive but simpler07:06
zenroxya use xmms07:06
zenroxi love xmms07:06
zenroxrythembox is kewl too07:06
izaacit has a plug in to turn mp3 into wav07:06
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izaaclike winamp07:07
sexyteethi have xmms07:07
zenroxit can also play mp3s07:07
zenroxwmas and mp4s aac07:07
izaacgo to preferences07:07
izaacor something like that07:07
izaachehe07:07
kurtwAfter spending a few months away from Ubuntu (mostly to play around with FC3) I am back.  Just got NetworkManager working.  Boy is that great!07:07
izaacdont remember right now, im transcoding a VOB07:08
sexyteethyeah preferances?07:08
sexyteethwell that's a step in a right direction07:08
sridhello guys07:08
izaacright click07:08
sridI am new to ubuntu07:08
izaacgo to options -> preferences07:09
zenroxsrid we know07:09
zenroxlol07:09
kurtwDoes anyone know how to get PHP5 working in Ubuntu without having to compile PHP from source?07:09
sriddownloading the warty ISO in a 6kbps line07:09
srid6kBps07:09
izaacand then choose an output plugin07:09
sridzenrox: how?07:09
zenroxkurtw,  look at ubuntuguide.org07:09
zenroxsrid i just know07:09
sridzenrox: i am a debian user07:10
sridswitching to ubuntu bcoz of some latest packages in ubuntu07:10
zenroxsrid i am just playing around07:10
sridhmm07:10
izaacsexyteeth: got it?07:10
kurtwzenrox, those are instructions for php407:11
sexyteethi'm looking at the plug ins07:11
zenroxkurtw,  find the packages for php5 and install them the same way07:11
izaacis the disk_writer07:12
sexyteethi see wave player and I want to convert mp3's to waves07:12
kurtwkurtw@tinkerpad:~ $ sudo apt-get install php507:12
kurtwReading Package Lists... Done07:12
kurtwBuilding Dependency Tree... Done07:12
kurtwE: Couldn't find package php507:12
dabaslonSo how does it work for apps when I want to install one made lets say for red hat or sthg?07:12
izaacsexyteeth: choose the disk_writer plugin, click ok07:13
Amaranthdabaslon: you can use alien to convert RPMs to debs07:13
izaacput the files you want to convert in the playlist07:13
izaacclick play07:13
izaacand that's all07:13
dabaslonthx07:13
izaackurtw: sudo apt-cache search php07:15
izaacand check your sources if you got the universe and multiverse07:15
sexyteethi don't think i have a disk writer program07:15
sexyteeththey're all players07:16
izaacsexyteeth: is a plugin in xmms07:16
izaacxmms is the program07:16
kurtwizaac, I only see packages for php407:16
sexyteethyes07:16
sexyteethi don't even think this is working07:18
gbrmnsexyteeth: if you have mplayer install you can also do; mplayer -vo null -vc dummy -af resample=44100 -ao pcm -waveheader -aofile "outfile.wav" "infile.mp3"07:18
sexyteethit plays the mp3s folder but it gives me no reason to believe it converts them to mp3s07:18
sexyteethi mean waves07:19
sexyteethdo i need to enable anything?07:19
izaacdont think so07:20
sexyteeththis is retarded.07:21
sexyteethit does nothing07:21
sexyteethit's confirmed07:21
snowhow do I get mpg avi etc files to play?07:25
sexyteethwould anyone else like to recomend a program that can change the format of an mp3 to wave?07:25
sexyteethsorry snow...this channel is useless07:26
spikebsince we're useless, you can go now.07:27
izaacsexyteeth: man mpg12307:28
snow*shrugs* I think ppl are sleeping07:28
izaacis command line07:28
izaacbut very powerful07:28
sridso ubuntu is basically gnome centric debian07:28
izaacsrid: warty is like the testing in debian07:30
izaacand hoary the unstable07:30
sexyteethwhat's it do?07:30
izaacsexyteeth: it shows you how to manage mpg123 to convert mp3 files to wav07:31
snowhow do I playback avi, mpg files?07:32
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sexyteethopen up a termanol and type mp3123 and that's it?07:33
izaacman mpg12307:33
izaactype: man mpg12307:33
izaacwhat you want to do?07:34
izaaca  Music CD Burn?07:34
sexyteethyup07:34
izaachttp://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/MP3-CD-Burning.html07:35
sexyteethi can burn a mp3 disc ok07:35
izaac:D07:35
sexyteethusing cd creater07:35
sexyteethcool. hope the sites you gave me are more for Dummys than the others.07:37
izaachttp://www.patoche.org/LTT/sound/00000122.html07:37
sexyteethcause that's how i like it.07:37
izaachttp://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AudioCDCreation07:39
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sridizaac: bad! .. currently i am using debian/unstable07:39
sexyteethi tried bookmarking once but I guess i didn't do it correctly07:39
sridso where do I download hoary?07:40
izaacsrid: there is no ISO image for hoary07:40
izaaccause is unstable,07:40
DanielCHello. When I mount my Win partition, Nautilus starts up showing the Windows folder. How can I make it stop?07:40
izaacuntil march07:40
sridizaac: so can I just dist-upgade from warty?07:40
izaacsrid: if you know what you are doing07:41
sridtoy story for debian. ? for ubuntu?07:41
izaacthere are broken dependencies07:41
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fleeceis apache in the ubuntu apt repository, or do you have to go 'outside' ubuntu for a web server?07:47
odohmm, why my X has only 16bit colors even after I have 24bit as only option on X's conf07:48
DanielCfleece: yes it is. No need to go "outside"07:48
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chapter3somebody had recommend an alternate x11 manager earlier, it had a short package name, 4 or 5 characters, and begain with an 'x', ring any bells?07:53
izaacodo: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xfree86-server07:53
crimsunchapter3: xfce407:53
chapter3that was it, ty :)07:53
izaacjeopardy time :|07:54
izaacjaja07:54
snowhow do I install win32 codecs?07:54
izaacsnow: add marillat sources07:55
izaacthen type: sudo apt-get install w32codecs07:55
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snowhow do I add marillat sources?07:56
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zenroxsnow go look in the ubuntuforums.org07:56
izaacsnow: http://ubuntuguide.org/#codecs07:57
izaaccheck step 207:57
chapter3ok i installed xfce4, now how do i use it?07:57
snowok will look there thanks07:57
IRCMonkey__hi, im trying to setup ubuntu on a hard drive. i want to format the entire thing for linux but after the install it reboots i cant get it to boot from the hard disk... what am i doing wrong?07:57
carthikSo which MP3 Tagger app uses musicbrainz? anyone in the know?07:57
izaacno prob07:57
IRCMonkey__i tried setting up a partion w/ /boot and set it as bootable07:58
snowi want to add extra repositories?08:00
izaacsnow: you must08:00
snowok I'll just do what it says on that site then08:01
izaacdont be afraid, just follow the instructions08:01
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snowwow it works, not very user friendly but works none the less08:03
IRCMonkey__hello..08:04
izaacIRCMonkey__: sorry i dont know how to resolve your problem :S08:04
izaacyou got an error when you are installint it?08:04
izaacinstalling*08:05
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IRCMonkey__no errors ... tired auto partitioning08:07
IRCMonkey__tried manual partitioning... setting /boot as bootable tried doing 1 ext and 1 swap and booting off /ext08:07
IRCMonkey__its not setting up mbr properly08:08
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izaacIRCMonkey__: try without /boot08:09
izaaconly /08:09
izaac /home08:09
izaacant whatever you want08:09
izaacreiser or ext308:10
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IRCMonkey__i tried that too08:13
IRCMonkey__didnt work08:13
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izaac:S i try hehe08:14
ojpdkool..08:14
ojpdcan I dual boot it with my windows xp??08:15
IRCMonkey__not the hd 'cause i just had windows on it08:15
IRCMonkey__ojpd: yes w/ grub08:15
ojpddoes ubuntu come w/ grub?08:15
izaacojpd: is the default boot manager08:15
ojpdcool.. so it's just like installing Mandrake or Redhat??08:16
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IRCMonkey__ojpd: ubuntu installer is a lot more diffcult to setup than mandrake /red hat08:17
gnuyenhow can you tell what version of X you're running?08:17
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izaachere in irc?08:18
snowwhat should I try if my sound isn't working?08:18
izaacsnow: try to visit alsa webpage, to see if your soundcard is supported08:18
snowok, what if it isn't?08:19
highvoltageAt one stage in Warty, I had to "sudo killall esd" sometimes to get my sound to work again08:19
izaacvisiting the ubuntu forums? and the wiki08:19
izaacor google08:19
snowhum..08:19
izaacthose are my 3 main info resources08:19
snowi think I know what they meant when they said free software doesn't mean free lunch lol08:20
ojpdoh.. ok.. do i hafto type in commands n stuff while installing? and is it gonna get rid of my windows partition if i use d default installation?08:20
izaacojpd: nop08:20
izaacjust follow instructions08:20
izaacand say yes or no08:20
izaacthats the difficult08:20
ojpdOk dude.. u da man!! thanks izaac! what's the difficult part?08:21
izaacojpd: and if you want your windows partition just select custom partition08:21
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gnuyenI'm trying to do twinview with xorg08:22
gnuyenbut it doesn't seem to work08:22
gnuyenone screen just blanks out08:22
izaacojpd: the part that you need to choose hehe yes or no08:23
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ojpdhehe ok.. hehehe sorry.. m kinda new at this. hehehe08:23
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izaacojpd: dont worry08:23
geppyHow could one rebuild the Package lists on the ISO?  Does it have to be done manually?08:23
izaacjust relax and enjoy the ride08:23
ojpdahuh.. thanks izaac.. well am gonna install it now.. woo hoo!! go go go ubuntu!!08:24
izaacgeppy: it need a lot of work i think08:24
geppyizaac:  What all needs to be done?08:24
izaacchange the packages lists, satisfy dependencies, etc08:25
geppyThere's no script to change the packages lists?08:25
snowwhen ever it says 'note to debian users' that means ubuntu too right?08:25
jdubsnow: sometimes08:26
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izaacgeppy: there is a project... i think the name is morphix but is offtopic where youy can build your own iso08:26
geppyizaac:  I'm aware of other projects where you can build your own ISOs;  but I'm just trying to slightly modify the Ubuntu ISOs;  they're almost how I want them.08:27
izaacim not very familiar with te process, why dont you post in the forums?08:27
izaacthe*08:27
geppyAlright; thanks.08:27
gnuyenwhats a command to get X version information of a running X server?08:28
izaacmaybe someone can help you when awake08:28
gnuyenI'm trying to get my nvidia drivers to work08:28
izaacgnuyen: just download08:28
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izaacsudo apt-get install nvidia-glx08:28
jdubgnuyen: xdpyinfo08:28
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gnuyeni did do that08:30
gnuyenbut it's not quite working properly08:30
gnuyenglx isn't working08:30
geppyizaac:  dpkg-scanpackages =)08:30
jdubuse apt-ftparchive instead08:31
izaacgnuyen: sudo nvidia-glx-config enable08:31
izaacgeppy: checking08:32
gnuyenError: /etc/X11/xorg.conf or /var/lib/xfree86/xorg.conf.md5sum08:32
gnuyenshould i create the md5sum?08:32
gnuyenwith md5sum?08:32
izaac:O are you using xorg08:32
gnuyenyeah08:32
izaacthen i dont know08:32
izaacsorry08:32
gnuyenxpyinfo told me i was08:32
carthikwhat program can I use to rip songs from an audio cd as oggs or mp3s?08:34
geppycarthik: grip08:34
ctdcarthik: sound-juicer08:35
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geppysound-juicer lacks functionality08:36
geppyit's pretty, though08:36
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brokenladderwow!  ubuntu is great!08:36
izaacgrip is enogh08:36
brokenladderhow do i install it?08:36
brokenladderit just booted to a working gnome install with great anti-alised sans-serif fonts.08:37
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carthikthanks geppy, ctd - grip is now up and running, I will try the juicer too, sometime.08:38
carthikSo is there an MP3 tagger that uses musicbrainz yet for linux?08:38
geppysound-juicer08:38
geppybut it sucks08:39
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brokenladderuhh..can anyone tell me how to begin by installing ubuntu?08:40
brokenladderthat would be great.08:41
snowok so when downloading a sound driver from alsa, do I download their all in one driver or a sound card spcific driver?08:41
carthikpop the cd in, reboot after making the computer bootable from the cd drive, brokenladder08:41
brokenladderit did boot from the cd08:41
zenroxbrokenladder,  use the werty install cd08:41
brokenladder??08:41
brokenladderwtf08:42
zenroxnot the live cd08:42
brokenladderoh fuck's sake08:42
brokenladderi don't have a burner.08:42
brokenladderis there an installer that will install over the net from here?08:42
zenroxbrokenladder,  order it from there main page08:42
brokenladderi want it now.08:42
zenroxfree to get it08:42
brokenladderi can just use my roomie's burner tomorrow.08:42
zenroxso start the d/l then08:42
izaaczenrox: really? to every part of the world?08:42
brokenladderi want it now.08:42
zenroxby morn it should be done08:43
Anerhello I recently installed ubuntu with grub to allow my windows to boot too. but unfourtantly I can't managge to load windows anymore - after the load screen of XP is appearing for a friction of a moment the computer restarts - I would apritiate help.08:43
brokenladdercan it be installed over the net?08:43
zenroxizaac,  yes08:43
izaacWOW!!!!!08:43
zenroxi got mine and i am in the usa08:43
zenroxnote that it took 3 weeks for me to get them08:43
zenroxfrom swisserland08:43
zenroxizaac and you can get as many as you would like08:44
izaac:O08:44
izaacsounds cool08:44
deadshelli got mine already08:44
zenroxi got my 4 that i orderd april ill order more08:44
carthikbrokenladder, it should be possible to install from the live-CD (since it's based off of knoppix' cd)08:45
Aneranyone?08:45
snownite ppls08:45
brokenladderit's based on knoppix??08:45
brokenladderholy hell.08:45
brokenladderthe default ubuntu experience is great.08:46
brokenladderstill tons of things i need to configure, but good.08:46
brokenladderi need to make list view and non-spatial right away.08:46
brokenladderneed to make metacity not show contents on move/resize (way annoying)08:46
zenroxbrokenladder,  then bookmark http://ubuntuguide.org that wil helps lots08:46
brokenladdercool08:46
carthikThe live cd uses some borrowed stuff08:46
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synthabusionanyone use the ppc version?08:47
zenroxsynthabusion,  nope08:47
synthabusionok08:47
seek187Does ATI have a xorg driver yet????08:47
zenroxseek187,  i think thay do08:48
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seek187ok thx08:49
Anersomeone?08:50
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Adrenalwith mozilla working with gnome08:52
mkrubelis there a supported application in ubuntu that copies CDs?08:52
Adrenalis there any chance that sunbird will eventually take over as the default ubuntu calender?08:52
mkrubelwill the nautilus CD burner do it somehow?08:52
geppymkrubel:  xcdroast?08:53
geppymkrubel: k3b?08:53
deadshellAner, what the /boot/grub/menu.lst say for windows?08:53
mkrubelmeh, I was looking for something with fewer buttons08:53
geppymkrubel:  Fewer than k3b?  IT08:54
geppyIt's pretty simple.  =)08:54
mkrubelI know, I know, cdrecord doesn't have any; Aren't users hard to please?08:54
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Aneryou mean when editin the boot sequence? can't remember precisly - save default, root (hd0,0) cahinloader+1 and another thing I can't remember08:54
Anerthanks for helping btw08:55
deadshellare you running abuntu now Aner ?08:55
mkrubelgeppy, what is IT?08:55
Anerno I'm runung windows from another computer altogether08:56
geppymkrubel:  A typo.  :)08:56
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geppyI meant to type "It's pretty simple," but I messed it up.08:56
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deadshellAner,  try reading this http://www.buildyourown.org.uk/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=421308:57
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Anerthanks - I apritiate08:58
deadshellnp08:58
deadshellAner, scroll down to J_o_e respnce on that forum09:00
Anerthnx09:00
AnerI must say that using ubuntu is a blast09:00
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deadshell:D09:01
deadshellanythning debian is fun09:01
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bestadvocateI love the debian ethos09:03
izaaci REALLY recommend Wesnoth09:05
izaacan open source strategy game09:05
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izaacit is great09:05
method55well i got linux on here all right, thanks for the help everyone09:05
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bestadvocateizaac: i play it alot09:05
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bestadvocateused to play it on windows cause the source was such a pain, but now getting it on Ubuntu is a breaze09:06
izaacyeah its very easy to install09:07
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bestadvocateIm going to be running hoary in about 8 hours09:08
izaac:O09:08
IRCMonkey__im still trying to get it to install09:09
bestadvocatei wonder if they still have that bug where stuff disapears off the menu when you update with synaptic09:09
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bestadvocatehave you seen how they split the "computer" menu in two? isnt it great?09:10
izaac:O in hoary they are packing GNOME 2.9.209:10
da_bon_bonno 2.10 ?09:11
IRCMonkey__it will be 2.10 by the time it ships09:11
bestadvocateIts like a semi safe sid :] 09:11
izaacbestadvocate: i dont have ubuntu in english09:11
bestadvocateizaac: where you from?09:11
izaacmexico09:11
Konliedcan anyone confirm that torrent.ubuntu.com is down>09:12
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Konliedgetting timeouts on port 696909:12
method55is it hard to get nvidia drivers working on ubuntu?09:12
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izaacKonlied: is up and running09:12
bestadvocateno its really easy method5509:12
izaacmethod55: pieace of cacke09:12
x66221_I need HELP please :) ... I installed ubuntu onto hde and I installed mandrake onto hdg; right now, I'm in mandrake on hdg and I want to get something off of the hde disk; so I'm trying to mount hde but I'm stuck; I tried "mount -t ext2 /dev/hde1 /ubuntu" and it says "mount point /ubuntu does not exist"; how do I do this?09:12
bestadvocatei can give you a webpage09:13
method55i have an intell pentium 4 so i want the IA32 driver right?09:13
bestadvocatex66221_ try mounting in ext3 thats the default i think09:13
izaacyeah i think the same09:14
method55also....the reason i was wondering about installing this is because i just installed ubuntu on this laptop and the max resolution i can set it to is 1024x768...i figured the nvidia driver would let me go higher?09:14
Konliedizaac: you sure about that? http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/announce09:14
bestadvocateoh no nevermind did you make the folder ubuntu x6622109:14
izaacmethod55: you can do a dpkg-reconfigure xfree86-server09:14
method55i'm new to linux, i have no idea what that means =)09:15
izaacKonlied: ha sorry i think you mean the site09:15
bestadvocatemethod55: i dont know if it will raise the resolution, but i do know that without the driver on my cpu the screen is off center09:15
izaacKonlied: dont know09:15
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x66221_bestadvocate: no, how do I make the folder?09:15
method55besta: my screen is fine as of now09:15
bestadvocateget to root09:15
x66221_ok09:15
zenroxits sudo mkdir for maken a dir in /09:16
method55should i get the package from the nvidia site or somewhere else?09:16
bestadvocatex66221_ then type "mkdir /ubuntu09:16
zenroxmkdir for /home/yoursuername09:16
izaacmethod55: yeap only type: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx09:16
x66221_bestadvocate: cool!  that did it and it mounted well.  thanks!09:16
bestadvocatecoolbeans x66221_09:17
izaacmethod55: i mean in the terminal09:17
Konliedcan anyone recommend alternative ubuntu torrents?09:17
method55glx?09:17
method55i got an error when i tried09:18
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izaacwhat error?09:18
method55Reading Package Lists... Done09:18
method55Building Dependency Tree... Done09:18
method55Package nvidia-glx is not available, but is referred to by another package.09:18
method55This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or09:18
method55is only available from another source09:18
method55E: Package nvidia-glx has no installation candidate09:18
method55sorry for spam09:18
bestadvocatemethod55 you might have to apt-get update09:18
method55type sudo apt-get update?09:19
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bestadvocateyah thats the ticket09:19
method55Reading Package Lists... Done09:19
bestadvocateok now try apt-get install nvidia-glx09:20
bestadvocateand if it dont work then type "sudo apt-get cache search nvidia"09:20
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Altkei get this when running 'testparm' after editing 'etc/samba/smb.conf':  None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.09:21
method55$ sudo apt-get cache search nvidia09:21
method55E: Invalid operation cache09:21
Altkehow to fix that one?09:21
bestadvocatedid i spell that right... one moment09:21
lizdeikaapt-get cache -> apt-cache09:21
izaacsudo apt-cache search nvidia09:21
bestadvocateyah thats what i ment  thanks guys09:22
method55linux-restricted-modules-2.6.8.1-3-386 - Non-free Linux 2.6.8.1 modules on 38609:22
method55nvidia-kernel-common - NVIDIA binary kernel module common files09:22
izaacmethod55: only those?09:22
method55that is what it is listing09:22
izaacweird09:23
method55thanks for the help by the way, its greatly appreciated09:23
bestadvocateizaac: my sentements exactly09:23
bestadvocatemaby its already installed by some mis-hap?09:23
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method55how do i find out09:23
izaacis in the main source the nvidia driver09:23
bestadvocate.... run synaptic and search for nvidia is what i would do09:24
method55that comes up with the same thing pretty much09:24
bestadvocatedoes it show nvidia-glx as instaled at all?09:25
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method55it shows the nvidia kernal common one09:25
method55it doesnt list it at all09:25
bestadvocatejust install that and then we can see if it works anyway09:25
zenroxmethod55,  warty or hoary09:25
method55warty09:25
method55warthog09:25
method55i think09:25
zenroxmethod55,  do you have all the difernt repos enabled09:25
method55no i just realized that09:25
method55i only have the first one09:25
zenroxthats why09:26
bestadvocatelol09:26
zenroxyou need all the others09:26
method55:) sorry09:26
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bestadvocatehow often does this chanel get nvidia vs ATI flamewars anyway?09:27
zenroxbestadvocate,  alote09:27
method55yay...i see it now09:27
method55can i install it right from syanptic?09:27
method55er synaptic even09:27
zenroxmethod55,  yes09:27
method55ill do that09:27
bestadvocatefunny ubuntu and video cards just dont associate in my head09:27
zenroxmethod55,  not follow the http://ubuntuguide.org for set up09:28
zenroxnot =now09:28
zenroxbestadvocate,  its more about witch one is better supported in nix09:28
method55should i get nvidia-settings as well09:28
zenroxyes09:28
zenroxmethod55,  follow the guide09:28
bestadvocatemethod55: this was my favoret source on how to install nvidia drivers: http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=8407&page=409:30
zenroxbestadvocate,  but that wont help on ubuntu09:30
bestadvocateyah it will09:30
x66221_ANYONE: in /etc/fstab, what is the meaning of the last two numbers in each line?09:30
bestadvocateits an article about ubuntu09:30
zenroxbestadvocate,  the ubuntuguide.org is more spisivic for ubuntu09:31
zenroxbestadvocate,  oh ok09:31
bestadvocatex66221_ its the number of times to check the harddrive for errors09:31
zenroxx66221_,  dont know09:31
bestadvocatejust leave it zero zero and make life easyer09:31
x66221_bestadvocate: ok, thanks09:32
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ograbestadvocate: this guide is nice, but the second part is totally replaced by: sudo nvidia-glx-config enable09:33
bestadvocatereally?09:33
bestadvocatedoh09:33
randabisheh09:33
ograbestadvocate: keep in mind, if you ever edit your X config by hand you will never be able to yue any X configuration tool09:33
ogrause even09:33
ograso make a backup copy of the file if you wnat to do this ;)09:34
housetierwell... there IS a way09:34
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bestadvocatehasnt messed me up too much so far :)09:34
ograhousetier: what, choking around with md5sums ?09:35
ograheh09:35
housetierogra yes like the comments in the file itself suggest09:35
ograhousetier: i think the backup way is the easiest ;)09:35
housetiermuch easier indeed09:35
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bestadvocatesomeone help me outa here09:36
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ograbestadvocate: installing nvidia in ubuntu comesw down to three things, not more, not less: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx, sudo nvidia-glx-config enable, reboot09:36
bestadvocateorga: it even aparently works with just a gui reboot, cause i still havent rebooted to the new kernel09:37
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ograbestadvocate: nothing to edit, nothing to touch.....just these three things and you are done.....09:37
KonliedWhat's the quickest method for me to get ubuntu?09:37
bestadvocatedownload it if you have  a fast conection from their servers...?09:38
ograKonlied: the quickest is to download the iso09:38
ograKonlied: the easiest is to order CDs for free and wait 6weeks09:38
Konliedif not..?09:38
Konliedheh09:38
bestadvocateKonlied: toooooo long dont wait!09:38
ograKonlied: shipit.ubuntu.com if you dont have broadband....they are entirely free (incl. shipping)09:39
bestadvocatehas anyone here ever used jigdo?09:39
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Konliedbut then that for debian so I'm niot sure if its relevant09:40
bestadvocateahh, the amount of bandwidth saved made it seem apealing but you have staved me off Konlied09:40
bestadvocatekonlied how slow is the download going?09:41
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Konliedit was at 4.6 (I should be getting ~50k norm).. try again09:42
bestadvocatebummer, i normally get 5.5 but now im getting 1209:42
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ograKonlied: there are different mirrors listed on the ubuntu site....09:43
Konliedyeah I'm hitting up http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/releases/4.10/release/ (37KBps ... 8)09:43
bestadvocateonly 7 hours 45 min till i am ridding that whory hedgehog09:44
bestadvocateride sonic ride09:44
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Konliedheh, isn't it a somewhat minor release?09:45
bestadvocatebut it gives me new stuff! new means better right?09:45
Konliedmind you, debain users like me shouldn't talk about stable releases09:46
BugShi, im having this weird problems with my mouse09:46
BugSit stucks on a random time at the left upper corner of my screen09:46
bestadvocateBugS :well try feeding it09:46
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ograbestadvocate: it is highly unstable....are you sure you really want this ?09:46
BugSand all i can do is move it real slow. any acceleration results in the cursor being moved back in the corner09:47
bestadvocateyah i like reporting bugs09:47
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ograbestadvocate: just to warn you ;)09:47
BugSit is an USB mouse09:47
randabisheh09:47
randabisI like my warty09:47
bestadvocateorga: plus nothing like a good system crash to accelerate the learning curve09:47
ograheh09:47
Konliedbestadvocate: list of changes http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ubuntu09:47
Konliedrelease adds apache.. odd since apache is quite hard to set up09:48
Konliedxampp all the way baby09:48
bestadvocateoooooh abiword 2.2.209:49
spikebheh09:49
spikebubuntu traffic is always behind09:49
bestadvocateindeed09:49
KonliedI was wondering if I can update ubuntu versions using apt or spm?09:50
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bestadvocateyah apt works fine09:50
bestadvocatethats how i am installing hoary, i am using apt09:51
Konlieddoing that with debian unstable messed my system so here I am09:51
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bestadvocate:] 09:51
bestadvocateI need to give debian a second shot, havent tried it since over a year ago09:52
Konliedyay for smaller release cycles09:52
bestadvocatewhen sarge comes out i will give it a shot09:52
bestadvocatethen switch to sid :}09:52
KonliedDespite what they are saying the installer is still no better09:53
Konlied(that's on TCv3)09:53
jmobbestadvocate: hahahaha, you're assuming that sarge is actually going to come out!09:54
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KonliedI get the feeling most of us here are bitter ex debian users09:54
jmobKonlied: I still use it, but at work, and we use sarge.09:55
bestadvocatenot me i never got a working debian :] 09:55
spikebme? i'm not bitter.09:55
spikebi just don't like the assholes09:55
spikeb:)09:55
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dabaslonhey you guys know how to compile java with gcj?09:57
dabaslonAnd set the whole thing up on the Ubuntu...09:57
jmobhttp://www.geek.com/news/geeknews/2003Jan/bch20030129018402.htm09:57
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bestadvocatedabaslon: whats java?09:58
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TTilusbestadvocate: kinda coffee...09:58
d3vic3bestadvocate: a programming language09:58
ezduzitcoffee...mmmmm09:59
Konliedjmob: it'09:59
bestadvocatei think its also i kind of really short homo-erectus09:59
jmobdabaslon: Do you have gcj installed?09:59
jmobdabaslon: do you want to -compile- (to machine code) or byte-compile to jvm byte code?10:00
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ezduzit.10:01
bestadvocateim patial to caffeen with bubles10:02
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jmobKonlied: seems bonkers?10:02
ezduzitanybody know anything about asla?10:02
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krixhey10:02
KonliedI didn't think you could compile to anything but bytecode10:02
bob2Konlied: gcj compiles it to machine code10:02
bob2ezduzit: it should be setup automatically for you already10:02
Konliedbut.. that goes against the principles of java, no?10:03
dabasloni WANT TO COMPILE like with javac10:03
dabaslonI think...10:03
jmobdabaslon: that's not that hard10:03
dabaslon@ my school we just so can you walk me through?10:04
dabaslonscratch that.10:04
dabaslonso can you walk me through?10:04
seek187Is the menu editor broke in hoary?10:04
ezduziti'm trying to listen to an audio cd. it's not happening.10:04
ezduzitit plays but no sound. mp3 on hardrive play fine10:05
dabaslonim listening to some boring song...10:05
dabaslon:)))10:05
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dabaslonjmob:so can you walk me through?10:05
bob2ezduzit: sounds like your cd drive isn't plugged into your sound card10:05
jmobdabaslon: http://www.sunsite.ualberta.ca/Documentation/Gnu/gcc-3.0.2/html_node/gcj_6.html#SEC610:05
bob2dabaslon: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats, there's a section on java10:05
jmobdabaslon: I haven't read that, but it looks decent10:06
dabaslonDoes this describe all the installation, and all?10:06
dabaslonk10:06
jmobdabaslon: I found that with google btw10:06
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ezduzitwell i'm a newbie...but a friend told me to type some stuff...and it came up my asla files10:06
bob2I really don't think your problem is related to ALSA.10:07
ezduzitdoes anyone know anything about azla?10:08
ezduzitthanks...alsa10:08
jmobezduzit: that doesn't sound like an alsa problem10:08
jmobezduzit: if you already have sound it sounds like you don't have your cd-rom drive hooked up to your sound card.10:09
zenroxezduzit,  or your vol for your cdrom is so low10:09
ezduzitok then.10:10
ezduzitmust be it's not conected because i adjusted the mixer10:10
jmobezduzit: there's a cable that goes directly from your CD-ROM to your sound card, if it's not there's only a few players that can ``emulate'' it being there.10:11
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randabishmm10:12
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dabaslonDo you think the gcj compiles like javac, meaning source can be same?10:13
bob2ezduzit: try 'totem cdda://' i na terminal, no quotes.10:13
dabaslonshould be...10:13
bob2dabaslon: no10:13
dabaslonanyhow.10:13
dabaslonno?10:13
dabaslonserious?10:13
dabasloncant be..10:13
bob2a) gcj compiles to machine code, not java byte code10:13
bob2b) gcj isn't sun's java, and is probably incomaptibile in some small ways10:14
bob2c) gcj uses classpath, which is not a complete implementation of sun's java standard library10:14
bob2if this is for school, use sun's java10:14
jmobbob2: as long as it produces byte code to spec it should run any JVM10:14
bob2yes, I know10:14
ezduziti have a wire that runs to the motherboard and a wire that runs from the motherboard to the soundcard10:15
jmobclasspath is compatable with JDK 1.0 supposedly :)10:15
dabaslonyou think I should?10:17
dabaslonserious?10:17
jmobdabaslon: is this for school?10:17
dabaslonI was hoping its the same thing.10:17
dabaslonThis....10:17
dabaslon:)))))))10:17
dabaslonk...10:17
dabaslonIts for HIGHer learning.10:18
dabaslonso you think go for javac?10:18
dabaslonwhich java do I download?10:18
jmobdabaslon: wtf that means, use Sun's JDK, it's going to be more reliable, unless you have a free software bug up your ass it's going to be easier to deal with.10:18
dabaslonon the site...10:18
dabaslontheres many10:18
dabaslonhaha10:19
dabasloncool stuff....10:19
dabaslonhigher learning means I wanna learn it school or no school.....10:19
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dabaslonbut thanks.10:20
dabaslon:)10:20
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tam_hello10:20
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Emanuelezhello * :)10:20
tam_how many people on x-chat10:21
Emanueleztam_: me is one of them :)10:21
tam_which country you in ?10:22
krixitaly :P :)10:22
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krixhm in hoary is there any j2re package ?10:23
krixor just do the way what says the ubuntuguide?10:23
tam_don't know10:23
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jmobtam_: irssi10:23
Emanueleztam_: italy10:23
tam_Australia10:24
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ezduzitmy cd drives are connected to my soundcard. I'm looking at my console right now. what programs can imulate whatever it is I need?10:27
jmobezduzit: gnome-cd doesn't work?10:28
dabaslonkrix, you want a sun-j2sdk1.5_1.5.0_i386.deb?10:28
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dabaslonHey, is that the one I need?10:29
ezduzitit's just the cd player10:29
krixdabaslon, maybe yes ?10:29
krixdabaslon, is there in hoary ?10:29
ezduzitnot sound juicer or sound recorder10:29
ezduzitubuntu's cd player10:29
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dabaslonI dont know, I have that one, for some reason...10:31
dabaslon:)10:31
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dabaslonSomeone gave it, or I got it somewhere...10:31
krixdabaslon, not requied10:31
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krixi installed by hand :)10:31
krixbtw thx.10:31
dabaslonsure...10:32
krixbut another problem. Installed mozilla-firefox frm hoary10:32
krixinstalled flashplayer plugin. But now when i went to a flash site10:32
krixthen firefox freeze :)10:32
dabaslonheh..10:32
dabaslonthats cause youre living on the bleeding edge...10:32
dabaslonhahaha10:32
krixhaha :)10:32
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dabaslonthats ffrom the site...10:33
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dabaslonI wish I knew how to compile java on my computer...10:33
dabaslonIve had this OS for a while and still nothing...10:33
ezduziti wish i knew how to play and listen to a cd10:33
dabaslonit suck anyhow...10:34
dabaslonyou have warty?10:34
d3vic3erm10:34
ezduzityup10:34
dabaslonWhats not working for you, software?10:34
d3vic3dabaslon, do you have j2sdk installed ?10:35
dabaslonIm trying to figure howto...10:35
dabaslonthe installation, everything.10:35
d3vic3well10:35
dabaslonyeey10:35
d3vic3sudo apt-get install j2sdk10:35
dabaslonthx10:35
dabaslonfunk/10:36
dabaslonagain missing package...10:36
d3vic3I think it is in multiverse though, so u might wanna edit the sources file10:36
dabaslonhow...10:36
d3vic3sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list10:38
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ezduzitok then. i can't figure it out. my systom must not like Ubuntu.10:38
brokenladderi'm brand spanking new to ubuntu.  loving it but i have some questions.10:38
brokenladderhow do i set up a password for my root account?10:38
dabaslonk without sudo is fine, im logged as root.10:38
bob2brokenladder: the FAQ in the topic explains it10:39
dabaslonwhich one do I add?10:39
bob2but you don't need to10:39
dabaslonthe one from the site?10:39
brokenladderdon't need to?10:39
bob2ezduzit: no, it's your hardware missing something.  xmms and xmms-cdread should work fine, as will gnome-cd in hoary.10:39
brokenladderi want to do stuff that only root can do.10:39
Xofhello10:39
brokenladderlike chown through massive directories.10:39
brokenladderi'll read the faq for now.10:40
XofI've heard that ubuntu maintainers are having difficulty with sbcl (which would unblock a wodge of cl-foo dependencies).  Is this right?10:40
ezduzitthank you bob2 for listening10:40
bob2brokenladder: then you use sudo.10:40
ezduzitwhere can I get/find out more about what I need?10:41
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bob2Xof: try #ubuntu-devel, but I believe it's been discussed on the list in the past.10:41
XofThanks.  I will.  (I'm "upstream" for sbcl)10:41
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d3vic3bob2, do you know what source is sun-j2sk1.5 from ?10:42
brokenladderhow can i use sudo if i haven't made a root password yet?10:42
krixbrokenladder, login with your username10:42
krixthen do a10:42
krixsudo su -10:42
krixtype your user password and then you will be root10:42
scoond3vic3, dpkg -p sun-j2sdk1.5debian10:42
krixthen you can change the root password.10:42
d3vic3dabaslon, are you following ?10:43
ezduzitwhere can I get help?10:43
zenroxkrix,  even easer sudo -s10:43
krixzenrox, what you like :)10:43
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dabaslonnot really got lost...let me read bac10:43
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brokenladderthanks so much10:44
krixnp10:44
brokenladdergawd..ubuntu kicks my slackware desktop's ass.10:44
d3vic3scoon, says package not available10:44
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jholdtis ubuntu deb based?10:44
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scoond3vic3, have you enabled multivers ?10:44
krixjholdt, yep :)10:44
jholdti mean deb package management system10:44
dabaslonwhat do I add, i didnt get it, you dont know yet, right...10:45
d3vic3yup10:45
krixhm a question. In ubuntu the hoary branch is like debian's sid branch ?10:45
krixi mean this is the development tree or something else ?10:45
krixright ?10:45
scoond3vic3, try apt-cache search j2sdk10:45
bob2d3vic3: no, sorry...10:45
d3vic3i did10:45
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bob2d3vic3: 'apt-cache policy sun-j2sk1.5' will tell you10:45
d3vic3it shows it there10:45
krixd3vic3, did an apt-get update after modifing sources.list ?10:45
krix:)10:45
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ezduzitwhere can i get help? hell?10:46
d3vic3yes10:46
krixezduzit, about what ????10:46
d3vic3yes kurtw10:46
bob2ezduzit: try asking on the user list.10:46
no0tichi110:46
d3vic3yes krix10:46
krixd3vic3, okay. :)10:46
ezduzitthank you10:46
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dabaslonim goin to sleep...10:47
d3vic3hmmm10:47
krixdabaslon, good night :)10:47
scoond3vic3, I am running hoary and for what it is worth I get E: Broken packages10:47
randabisheh10:47
d3vic3heh10:47
scoond3vic3, it probably doesn't matter much since the packages are broken.10:47
dabaslonthanks.10:47
randabisI run warty10:48
scoond3vic3, I just installed my from sun. Put it in /opt and added some vars to /etc/profile10:48
d3vic3scoon, tough10:48
scoond3vic3,  ?10:48
randabismade a boo boo earlier and was accidently pointing to the hoary universe and multiverse in my sources.list10:48
d3vic3hmm10:48
randabisbroke a lot of things, but I've got it all sorted out now10:48
d3vic3getting it from sun is not an option, since i'm hacking apt-*10:49
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d3vic3getting it from sun is not an option, since i'm hacking apt-get10:49
randabisexcept I can't get gdesklets working...I open it, it loads, then quits10:49
d3vic3scoon, I'm south african, sometimes you will not understand me10:50
d3vic3heh10:50
scoond3vic3, whatever that means. somebody has to get them from there at some point.10:50
d3vic3yeah10:50
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jholdtwhen i boot the warty install disc the install freezes at the language selection screen and there are two white lines, one spanning the top of the screen, the other the bottom10:52
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jholdtsounds like a graphics problem, though thats silly that it'd have a problem with that... i'm using a sapphire radeon 9200 atlantis10:53
jholdtand its seriously frozen, even the numlock key doesnt toggle on/off10:54
randabisheh ati sucks for linux10:54
krixrandabis, exactly :)10:55
brokenladderwhat is this "colours" crap in my desktop background settings?!10:55
brokenladderit's "colors"10:55
brokenladdercan't the creators of this software spell?10:56
jholdtbroken: not all english speakers in the world are american10:56
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randabishmm10:57
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no0ticrandabis: it's not a news :)10:58
brokenladderbut "colour" is some fringe old school way of writing.10:58
randabisanyone have any experience with vlc?10:58
brokenladderthat's not the way you'd see it written in a science journal.10:58
randabisparticularly vlc-gnome10:58
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no0ticbrokenladder: it's british.10:58
brokenladderi know!10:58
randabiserr gnome-vlc10:58
brokenladderthat's not proper spelling.10:58
jholdtdoes it madder?10:58
jholdt:D10:58
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jholdtyes, i know... i did it just for you ;)10:59
randabisjust wondering because the playlist seems to work funky10:59
brokenladderanyway, how can i change my desktop resolution and make it stick?  do i need to edit the x.org config manually?10:59
randabisyou can't scroll it with the mouse and using the arrows doesn't make it scroll down10:59
jholdtok, ubuntu crashing at cli gui setup is just silly11:00
bob2jholdt: if you're sure your hardware is good, please file a bug11:00
jholdtit is, how?11:01
bob2brokenladder: the detecttion didn't work?11:01
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x66221_newbie question for anyone: I want to COPY ALL files and folders in /home/a to /home/b  how do I do that?11:01
bob2jholdt: bugzilla.ubuntu.com11:01
bob2x66221_: cd /home/a ; cp -r . /home/b11:01
murtazaany idea abt novel client for ubuntu box11:02
x66221_ok, thanks11:02
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brokenladderbob2, i don't know what you mean by detection.11:04
brokenladderit's in 1600x1200 and i'd like it a little lower since this monitor is really small11:05
jholdtwow, gotta love the ubuntu bugzilla account creation11:05
brokenladderwell, thanks for the help and goodnight.  glad to be an ubuntu user.  things going well so far tonight.11:06
brokenladderbest linux installr i've ever seen.11:06
brokenladderincluding red hat, mandrake, slackware, etc.11:06
brokenladderit might even rival the beos installer.11:06
bob2brokenladder: try installing gnome-xrandr and using the panel applet11:06
brokenladderi think i'll just run xorgconf11:07
brokenladderno biggie.11:07
brokenladderbonan nokton11:07
brokenladder(esperanto for "good night")11:07
jholdtdefinately very well thought out... one giant step towards linux being a word grandma knows11:07
brokenladderexactly.11:07
brokenladderyet wthout the microsoftness of fedora. :)11:07
randabisyessir, it's really now11:07
randabisnice11:07
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randabisbest debian-based distro I've ever used11:08
brokenladderi wish the default for metacity was wireframe move/resize though. you have to use gconf editor to set that.11:08
jholdtgotta give knoppix some brownie points though11:08
krixmhmm11:08
krixwhat is the module name that is requied for writing cdroms on a 2.6.X based kernel series ,11:08
krix?11:08
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bob2ide-cd11:09
bob2which is already loaded11:09
krixhmm11:09
bob2cdrecord dev=/dev/hdc foo.iso, or the equivalent in your gui of choice11:09
krixah11:09
krixbtw scanbus didn't find anything11:09
jholdthmm... its taking forever to get my email from bugzilla...11:09
jholdtheh, and there it is11:10
bob2ignore scanbus, you don't need it11:10
krixah11:10
krixokay.11:10
x66221_bob2: in "cp -r . /home/b" what is the purpose of the period?  of course it worked fine, I'm just wanting to understand.11:10
bob2x66221_: . = current directory11:11
bob2x66221_: you could have alternativel yrun 'cp -r /home/a /home/b'11:11
x66221_ok11:11
krixbob2, thanks. working fine11:11
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no0ticcan anyone suggest me a good latex editor?11:16
mjremacs ;)11:16
thisfredno0tic: you mean wysiwig?11:17
no0ticthisfred: no11:17
jholdthow can i use a generic video driver to see if thats the problem thats making setup crash?11:17
thisfredoh ok, in that case emacs11:17
thisfredor vi11:17
krixbye11:17
markus_Hi. It seems that though ubuntu-calendar-january (5.01) is available, the meta-package ubuntu-calendar was not updated (4.12). Anybody knows something about this?11:17
trey3no0tic: taken a look at 'glimmer'?11:17
no0tictrey3: I will11:17
thisfredthere is texmacs, which is neither latex nor emacs exactly but looks impressive (never used it)11:18
mjrmarkus_, hmh, it is for me11:18
markus_Your ubuntu-calendar has version 5.01? (Strange, since I've just updated the package list using the official archive.ubuntu.com repositories...)11:19
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x66221_where's the proper directory to install something like Mozilla Firefox?11:21
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highvoltagefor the versions from mozilla.org?11:21
bob2it's already installed11:21
highvoltageI usually put them in /opt11:22
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bob2if you mean "install random thing from tarball", /usr/local/blah/ is a good choice11:22
x66221_ok11:22
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x66221ANYONE: is there a similar irc channel for mandrake?11:44
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wezzerx66221: #mandrake maybe?11:45
x66221sure enough!  sorry :)11:45
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sereNityhi12:04
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no0tichi12:04
sereNitymy ubuntu cd (ordered) exploded in my cd rom drive.12:04
no0ticsereNity: ?12:05
sereNityi have fotos12:05
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skywebhi12:05
esherlol sereNity ?12:05
esherpls give us some pictures :)12:05
sereNitykk12:06
sereNitywhere can i upload?12:06
esher1mom12:06
skywebafter install ubuntu warty my laptop start with runlevel 2 and don't have root password (what's the default?)12:06
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no0ticesher: lmom? what does it mean?12:07
esherone mom12:07
esherone moment12:07
no0ticskyweb: it's the default12:07
no0ticesher: 1 mom not l mom :)12:07
skywebno0tic: can you give me! :)12:08
esherhehe no0tic12:08
esher:P12:08
no0ticskyweb: to do administration tasks you are supposed to use sudo (the user you created during installation is in /etc/sudoers)12:08
no0ticskyweb: root account is disabled12:09
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skywebno0tic: when use sudo <command> ubuntu request password!12:10
no0ticskyweb: your password, not root password!12:10
skywebops12:10
skywebit's ok12:10
esherwhats the "peon" user in default etc/sudoers12:12
no0ticskyweb: ubuntuguide.org & the wiki on the official site are a good doc source :)12:12
esher?12:12
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RavingIdiotMorning all12:15
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esherhttps://www.debianshells.de/ubuntu_explode/12:21
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maswanesher: Don't sit on it. My sister already discovered that.12:22
nyxtremedoes anyone know a windows emulator for ubuntu that allows me to use window applications and games?12:23
eshernyxtreme, wine ?12:23
no0ticnyxtreme: crossover office for apps, cedega for games12:24
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FyrenSalut / hi12:24
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NyXtremeesher: I tried wine, it's too confusing lol12:25
NyXtremeno0tic: I'll try them, thanks12:25
FyrenIs there anyone speack french here ? :o12:25
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bob2try #ubuntu-fr12:26
sjoerdFyren: try #ubuntu-fr, should be lots there :)12:26
FyrenThx :)12:26
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Fyrenlol 35 people on ubuntu-fr 294 here :o12:27
rsachererHello! i really LOVE ubuntu!!! hoary rocks! --> and my question is: MrProject/Planner in Ubuntu has the ability to store the Projectplan in a postgredatabase, i installed the sql-schema on my database server, but i can't open nor save a plan to the database ... it seems as clicking on the ok button does nothing?12:27
RavingIdiotserver irc.northamerica.freenode.org12:29
bob2rsacherer: I'd try the user list12:29
rsachererbob2, yeah, i just thought somebody might now if this was disabled at build time in ubuntu ...12:30
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RavingIdiotOkay, I'm back and hopefully less lag:)12:31
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RavingIdiotI have a quick question regarding updating Ubuntu. Now, in the FAQ, it mentions adding extra sources to the apt sources. If you actually add those, then do a upgrade, could that potentially break Ubuntu because none Ubuntu supported packages get installed in place of the Ubuntu ones?12:35
RavingIdiotnone=non12:35
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rsachererRavingIdiot, it's a bit for advanced users, you need to know if the package you intend to install, and it's dependencies, could harm (overwrite) ubuntu packages or not ...12:37
rsachereri have a lot of additional packages installed (Java, some debian stuff i did not found in ubuntu, namely pgadminIII)12:38
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RavingIdiotGranted, I have yet to play with Ubuntu, just asking that one question. Just downloaded it, and am gonna burn it now...giving it a shot after trying a couple of other linux distros12:38
rsachererRavingIdiot, be sure to activate the universe apt source (and multiverse if you use hoary), then there should be more or less all packages you need, just for some really specially needs you need additional package sources!12:40
RavingIdiotAnywhere I can check out what versions some of the packages are at?12:40
rsachererapt-cache search <package> or apt-cach show <package>12:41
rsacherer+e12:41
RavingIdiotI mean before installing:)12:41
rsachereror this gui-ish synaptics stuff i never used ..... apt-cache search and show are intended to check package BEFORE installation :-)12:42
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RavingIdiotOkay, before installing Ubuntu;)12:42
rsachererah12:42
sereNitymake sure it doesnt have cracks in it12:43
rsacherernot before installing ubuntu, but before you intend to install the package you want ;-)12:43
sereNitycuz like they tend to explode in ur cd rom12:43
RavingIdiotWell, shoot, I been installing and formatting all week, so if I have to do it again oh well:)12:43
rsacherersereNity, cracks?12:43
RavingIdiotAlright, bbiab, hopefully in ubuntu12:43
sereNityya, my cd exploded in my cdrom drive12:43
rsacherersereNity, what do you have for a drive? a 52x? i read about this a while ago, some norwegian instituted played around with such stuff ;-)12:44
rsachererbut i did not know if this could be true ;-)12:44
sereNityyep 5212:44
sereNitylol12:44
sereNityit was struggling to read12:45
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sereNitythen suddenly a big bang12:45
rsacherer<lol>12:45
sereNityresult.. https://www.debianshells.de/ubuntu_explode/12:45
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rsachererLooooooooooooool12:47
Telephmm?12:48
rsachererwith a bit of imagination, the second picture, the hole of the cd, the crack to the right, the crack to the left and the crack down looks like one of the ubuntu manikin *ggg*12:50
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feAR`hello, i installed ubuntu from cd, and, there is Xfree86, i wanna xorg, btw, xchat`s version is 2.0.8 ;/ i wanna to have unstable software..12:57
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feAR`can someone give me sources.list file with unstable software`s repositories ? :}12:57
stvnfeAR`: get hoary12:58
stvnfeAR`: replace warty with hoary in your sources list12:58
feAR`my sources.list is almost empty :)12:58
feAR`;/12:58
feAR`it would be cool, if you could send your sources.list file on dcc...12:59
stvnfeAR`: search the wiki for multiverse and universe12:59
stvni'm off12:59
feAR`ok, thanks.12:59
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esherfeAR`: http://ubuntu-bp.sourceforge.net/01:01
macewanfeAR: replace warty with hoary in your sources.list - this works01:02
feAR`ok.01:03
feAR`and after that, i`ll do apt-get update && apt-get upgrade, right?01:03
feAR`and i`ll get the new software.01:03
ografeAR: but be aware that unstable really means unstable in ubuntu...this is not debian ;)01:03
feAR`sorry for the lame questions :) i moved from gentoo to debian based distros..01:03
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feAR`i didn`t use debian before.01:04
feAR`so i dont know :)01:05
feAR`in gentoo i used unstable software..01:05
feAR`that was working fine.01:05
dudtovid is such a brilliant piece of godlike script...01:05
rsachererfeAR`, vi /etc/apt/sources, :%s/warty/hoary/g01:06
ografeAR: hoary is in steady flux.... synced from debian sid from time to time and stuffed with additional features and bugs.....so its quite more unstable then debian sid01:06
rsachererfeAR`, then apt-get update, then apt-get dist-upgrade01:06
macewanfeAR: http://www.whiprush.org/2004/12/on_running_deve.html01:06
ografeAR: so it can be that your X server breaks for one or two weeks...your gnome doesnt work or your package management system....01:06
rsachererfeAR`, ogra knows what he is talking about!! i know it by myself how frustrating a hoary 'can' be ;-)01:07
ografeAR: if you are fine with such....upgrade....if not, stay with warty till end of feb. (preview release)01:07
feAR`Get:26 http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary/multiverse Release [101B] 01:07
feAR`Fetched 4965kB in 2m54s (28,5kB/s)01:07
feAR`Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary-updates/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found01:07
feAR`Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary-updates/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found01:07
feAR`Reading Package Lists... Done01:07
feAR`E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.01:08
feAR`:)01:08
feAR`gheh01:08
ografeAR: hoary-updates isnt existing ;)01:08
feAR`ok01:08
rsachererfeAR`, that's ok, hoary-updates ore not really in need right now *g*01:08
feAR`thank you01:09
ograthere is only:  main, restricted, universe and multiverse (like in warty) .... no security updates or updates :)01:09
feAR`ok, another problem.01:09
rsachererogra, is multiverse also included in warty?01:09
ograsure01:10
feAR`it wants upgrade Xfree01:10
feAR`bullshit01:10
feAR`i wanna xorg.01:10
rsachererogra, what's the difference between multiverse and universe?01:10
ograsure01:10
feAR`should i remove xfree by apt-get remove xfree?01:10
rsachererfeAR`, apt-get install xserver-xorg01:10
ografeAR: if you didnt uninstall the ubuntu-desktop package, it should happen automatically01:10
feAR`reformed, ok, but before this, i need to remove Xfree right?01:10
feAR`ubuntu-desktop package, what do u mean? what does this package01:11
feAR`?01:11
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feAR`huf ;))01:11
macewanfeAR: http://www.whiprush.org/2004/12/on_running_deve.html01:11
ograrsacherer: universe = all unsupported free software, multiverse = debian/contrib + non-free01:11
feAR`macewan, thanks, i know how to use apt and dpkg ;)01:12
ografeAR: its a empty meta package that cares for clean updates... if you uninstall some essential desktop Sw (i.e. totem for totem-xine) it gets removed01:12
matiIs localisation easy in Ubuntu?01:12
feAR`ogra, ok, thank you.01:12
macewanfeAR: I was referring to the message he was trying to get across to people.01:13
rsacherermati, apt-cache search localisation01:13
feAR`macewan, ok, thanks.01:13
ogramati: depends.... i heard there are some probs with norwegian or swedish locales01:13
feAR`brb01:13
rsachereracheck - Check common localisation mistakes01:13
ogramati: what do you plan to do ?01:14
rsacherermati, sorry, i did not read the 'easy' so .... i should read before answer :-)01:14
matiogra: Well, I was thinking of a desktop distro for my mom and/or my grandpa. Since they are not very good at english I'd like to make Ubuntu speak Polish. Since I haven't even installed it I'm just gathering information.01:17
ograhmm, polish should be fine (i think there is also a #ubuntu-pl channel and a polish mailing list)01:19
matiogra: I had some looong nights localising Debian and I wanted to know if that is easier in Ubuntu01:19
mati#ubuntu-pl you say...01:20
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feAR`;)01:20
feAR`ok, i did apt-get update, now i`ll do apt-get instlal xserver-xorg, and later i`ll remove Xfree86, and then i`ll do apt-get dist-upgrade01:21
feAR`ok?01:21
matiogra: no #ubuntu-pl at freenode :(01:21
ografeAR: dist-upgrade should care for you....if not, you can get xserver-xorg later...01:22
ogramati: i know there once was one... :(01:22
feAR`no, ogra, dist-upgrade suggessts Xfree update x] 01:22
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ografeAR: the xserver also has meta packages...which one will get upgraded ?01:23
feAR`ok, i`ll do now dist-upgrade.01:23
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brianb04Ubuntu01:24
ogramati: http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2004-December/016989.html01:26
brianb04Everything is working...very well...pleasent surprise.01:27
brianb04Now, to get the Nvidia driver in.01:29
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ograbrianb04: only two commands and a reboot away ;) http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto01:30
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brianb04Yep, found that. Now to tweak that...Ummm, now the big thing, how can I change the refresh on 1280x1024? The card and monitor support higher than 60, and 60 kills my eyes01:31
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ograbrianb04: first make sure the driver runs fine....then you can adjust it with: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree8601:32
ograbrianb04: if you still need more options: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xfree8601:33
brianb04Well, first, I should fix the monitor settings in XConfig...01:33
ograbrianb04: make sure HSync and VSync values match your monitor....01:33
ograbrianb04: and _never_ edit this file by hand01:33
brianb04Oh? Why not?01:33
brianb04Just out of curiosity. Potential of breaking it?01:34
ograbrianb04: because there is acertain md5sum mmechanism thast prevents tools from changing the file after you touchged it01:34
brianb04Ah, I get it.01:34
ogramake a backup before you edit it .....01:34
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ograif you break something....just copy it back01:35
brianb04Okay, here we go, see if everything runs right:)01:36
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kentHow come k3b demands kcontrol in Hoary now? kcontrol puts an entry in the top menu, so its very ugly :(01:41
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brianb04Okay, the driver took, now what was the line to reconfig the X server?01:42
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nyxtremedoes anyone know where to download the trial for cedega?01:46
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tuxJr_14hi01:50
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ograbrianb04: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree8601:53
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bob2nyxtreme: #cedega01:53
lonewolffcan  anyone tell me how to stop ubuntu from changing my resolv.conf file back after every change i make?01:53
bob2lonewolff: you don't want to use DHCP?01:54
lonewolffno, and im not using dhcp01:54
bob2did you install resolvconf?01:54
lonewolffno i didnt01:54
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tcklo01:54
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bob2'grep dhcp /etc/network/interfaces' prints nothing?01:55
bob2you're really sure resolvconf isn't installed?01:55
tcki know someone who needed apps that were not in the Ubuntu repos, so he added the usual Debian repos - so far so good.01:55
tckhe did a complete apt-get update && apt-get upgrade, and because of the additional repos, there's a load of stuff for upgrade - three hours of downloading @ 52Kbps, to be precise.01:56
lonewolffindeed it prints nothing and resolvconf is not installed01:56
tckMy question is this - when it's all finished, will he still be running Ubuntu, or will it simply be Debian unstable?01:56
tck(i know u shouldnt mix ubuntu and debian repos, but still)01:57
bob2tck: it will be a bastard mix of both, and not supportable by debian nor ubuntu01:57
tckthank you,01:57
tckwhat would u call the base system ?01:57
tckweird one eh01:57
bob2which base system?01:57
the--dudGNU/Linux01:57
the--dudas usual...01:57
lonewolffbob2: i use a static public routable ip and my own dns servers, i dont use dhcp (but there is a dhcp server running on the router) and i just want to make ubuntu leave the changes i make01:57
tckor the underlying core of the distribution, debian or ubuntu01:58
bob2lonewolff: I can't htink of anything else that would modify it.  try asking on the list.01:58
bob2tck: gnu, I guess01:58
tck:)01:58
bob2but it's not something that you'd often bother naming01:58
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the--dudi think its nice to include the GNU part when addressing a linux distro01:59
the--dudpay a bit of homage to the hardworking hackers at fsf02:00
zaeemhi guys02:00
zaeemhi bob202:00
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zaeemcan someone help me with using cvs..02:01
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zaeemi cant find out the exact syntax...02:01
zaeemi need to checkout a few files from gnome cvs..02:01
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zAo^morning02:02
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zaeemmorning zAo^02:02
zaeemzAo^: can you help me with using cvs?02:03
zAo^zaeem, dont thinks so, but you can try me :)02:03
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the--dudi find it easier to use a GUI application for cvs02:04
zaeemthe--dud: can you name that app?02:04
the--dudjust a lot of hassle typing all the stuff out02:04
zombicshow can i make my windows partition readable with my normal user?02:05
the--dudciviric or something heh02:05
zAo^zombics, edit /etc/fstab as root. In the parameter collum, use umask=007,gid=100002:05
zAo^remount afterwards02:06
kezzzombics, you need to add a flag to its line in /etc/fstab02:06
the--dudgcvs and lincvs seems to be two zaeem02:06
kezzyeah what zAo^ said02:06
zaeemthnx the--dud02:06
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zombicszAo^, thx man :)02:07
zAo^np02:07
zAo^does anyone know the win32 tool C-Xbox ?02:10
zAo^hmm02:11
zAo^need that one very hard :)02:11
tuxJr_14can anyone show me the linux kernel's version.h file? I messed up the source and fuse is giving me errors02:11
kezztuxJr_14, should be able to get it on kernel.org02:12
zAo^this is mine:02:12
zAo^zao@amd:~$ more /usr/include/linux/version.h02:12
zAo^#define UTS_RELEASE "2.6.0-test7"02:12
zAo^#define LINUX_VERSION_CODE 13260802:12
zAo^#define KERNEL_VERSION(a,b,c) (((a) << 16) + ((b) << 8) + (c))02:12
tuxJr_14zAo^: thanks02:12
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tuxJr_14kezz: they dont have the untarred ones up there02:13
tuxJr_14errr..... LINUX_VERSION_CODE? cant modify that one to suit mine :-P02:14
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kezzwhat did you modify?02:14
tuxJr_14kezz: actually, i used an unofficial patch of something and then it gave errors about the version so i deleted version.h02:15
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rsachererthe z-index .... if i have a <a> tag with a zindex behind other stuff, is the link still clickable?02:18
zAo^How can I transfer files form my linux box to my XBOX? LFTP does not seem to work02:20
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QerubHow can I disable the device icons on the desktop_02:21
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kentQerub, in gconf-editor.  Its in the menu somewhere (though the name in the menu is diffrent, i think its called configuration editor or something like that in english)02:23
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kentQerub, but you will have to find the option to enable in that register, its kind of hard.02:23
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sridis kde available in warty? .. or at least in the repository?02:23
zombicsther is a pack of stuff i need to download to be able to compile on ubuntu?02:23
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kezzzombics, sudo apt-get build-essential02:25
zombicskezz, thx :)02:25
kezzsrid, kde is in the universe repositories02:25
sridhmmm02:25
kezzyou'll need to uncomment them in /etc/apt/sources.list as root02:26
zombicskezz, you ment sudo apt-get install uild-essential right?02:26
kezzbuild-essential02:26
kezzyeah sorry02:26
kezzmy bad02:26
zombicsnp...02:26
zombicsthx :)02:26
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Qerubkent: Yeah, I know it's gconf-edtitor... But I can't find it.02:27
kentQerub, wait a sec and il check02:27
Qerubkent: Thanks!02:27
the--dudi must say, linux is quite the brilliant dvd creation kit02:28
the--dudonce you get your codecs and formats and helper apps sorted that is02:28
the--dudit all comes down to proper memory and disk management i suppose02:28
zombicseverytimg in linux is like  that :> after its working good you cant go back02:28
the--dudyeah, i usually say; when everything is working, its the best thing in the world. but when something goes wrong, you're in hell02:29
the--dudif everything works, any half-brained newbie can use linux02:29
the--dudits when something goes wrong the geek has to step in02:30
the--dudin my views, thats the achilles heel of linux at the moment02:30
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the--dudthe last thing that prevents it from conquering the desktop market you know?02:30
nevynthe--dud: how is this different from windows?02:30
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Qerubkent: apps/nautilus/desktop02:31
Qerubkent: it seems02:31
kentQerub, its Apps->nautilus->desktop   in gconf.02:31
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kentQuest-Master, yes :)02:31
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the--dudnevyn, windows tries to hide all the things that goes wrong02:31
nevynthe--dud: which leads to it's own problems.02:31
Qerubkent: cheers02:31
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the--dudyeah02:32
nevynI'd rather hear about it if theres a problem than have it hidden from me and realise that the data I thought I had no longer exists.02:32
the--dudbut even so, one rarely has to pull out the command line to fix something in windows02:32
the--duddont get me wrong here, ive used linux for close to 4 years02:32
the--dudlinux >> *02:32
the--dudbut still, for linux to take over the market... it needs to have a bit more friendly way of tackling the unexpected02:33
KingNatoIs there an ant package in ubuntu? All I can find is libant package, but they don't provide /usr/bin/ant02:33
the--dudits getting closer with each new distrobution tho, isnt it02:33
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zombicswhen i am trying to compile a theme for kde i geet this error "checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!"02:34
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yccoanyone here know what "Group 0" means in the DRI section of XF86Config file?02:35
bob2zombics: install build-essential and xlibs-dev02:35
nevynKingNato: it might be in universe?02:36
KingNatonevyn: I have both universe and multiverse in my sources.list02:36
zombicsbob2, ok :) thx02:37
yccobob2 finally get ubuntu installed on my Dell inspiron 7500 (it was the CDrom that was having problems)  Now battling with X.  crimsun and nomasteryoda tried to help me last night to no avail.02:37
yccoI get the ubuntu drum sound when gdm starts  but I simply have a black screen02:37
nevynKingNato: I have an "ant" package here on debian sid.02:37
the--dudycco, did you try installing xorg, and using xorgconf?02:38
bob2the--dud: how would that help?02:38
bob2ycco: can you switch to a terminal?02:38
the--dudat least with xorgconf you can fine tune the configuration down to the last pixel02:38
zombicsbob2, i nee to install something with QT? coz it told me "onfigure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!"02:39
KingNatoHmm, lots of Java stuff seems to exist only as source in ubuntu02:39
bob2zombics: libt3-mt-dev02:39
yccobob2 yah, I'm in terminal now.02:40
zombicsbob2, cant find it02:40
zombicsE: Couldn't find package libt3-mt-dev02:40
yccothe--dud that's for hoary I think I told you that last night :)02:40
bob2zombics: libqt3-mt-dev02:41
yccobob2 let me spit XF86Config and XFree86.0.log to pastebin02:41
bob2ycco: anything interesting in /var/log/XFree86.0.log?02:41
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zombicsbob2, thx :)02:41
bob2ycco: it'd be better to send that to the user list02:41
yccobob2 I'm sorta a fish out of water in console.  I can't seem to get anything done without X.02:42
zombicsnow this is the error: "checking for KDE... configure: error:in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.So, check this please and use another prefix!"02:43
bob2kdelibs4-dev02:44
bob2this theme had better show the face of god for the amount of pain you're going through to get it02:45
zombicslol yea.....02:45
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yccobob2 heh02:46
newsbunnyHi - I have an Intel 82801BA chipset onboard sound card which seems to be properly detected, but all sound apps seem to think there are no mixer devices present. I followed most of the suggestions I could find to no avail. Help is most welcome... :)02:46
yccoI remember an old "hand of God" theme02:46
ycco*chuckle*02:46
ycconewsbunny laptop?02:47
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newsbunnyycco - Intel Desktop board02:47
newsbunnynot sure which model02:47
ycconewsbunny ahh...02:47
yccowas thinking there might be something going on in the bios.02:47
ycconewsbunny I'd search google.com/linux  and look for: Intel 82801BA chipset02:48
newsbunnyIf it's disabled in the BIOS would lspci still list it?02:48
ycconewsbunny and see what you turn up.02:48
ycconewsbunny not really sure... do the google search ...   /me checks too02:48
newsbunnythanks02:48
zombicsnewsbunny, no. if its disabled in bios its like you took the sound card out .02:49
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zombicsi hate this@#_$02:50
zombics/usr/share/qt3/bin/uic -L /usr/lib/kde3/plugins/designer -nounload -o configdialog.h ./configdialog.ui02:50
zombicsuic: File generated with too recent version of Qt Designer (3.3 vs. 3.2.3)02:50
zombics:<02:50
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ycconewsbunny I'm in console (my X isn't working :(   So It's really hard to browse the web in lynx or links02:51
ycconewsbunny good luck to you.02:51
zombicsi like it :)02:51
yccowish I knew how to get high res @ the console.02:51
zombicswhat the problem with the X?02:52
yccobob2 anything I can apt-get install or dpkg-reconfigure to easily change my console res?02:52
yccozombics sec...02:52
yccohttp://pastebin.com/22396602:52
yccohttp://pastebin.com/22396502:52
yccoone is my XF86Config file  and the other is my XFree86.0.log file02:53
yccoI type /etc/init.d/gdm start   and "X" starts... and I get a black screen.  I _DO_ hear the ubuntu drum sounds though you normally get when gdm starts.  which is odd.02:54
yccoThis laptop worked fine @1400x1050 under Fedora Core 1.002:54
yccoI even have the old working XF86Config file from FC1:  http://occy.net/tmp/02:55
kentycco, perhaps you have choosen an resolution that the display cant view.  Try to set the resolution to a lower one?02:55
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yccokent heh, read above...02:56
kentycco, about it working in fedora?  perhaps its not realy 100% the same settings now?  im no expert, but if the settings or not the same as on fedora, then i guess it might fail..02:57
yccoI have tried 640 @ 8bpp and still does the same thing.02:57
kentycco, ok..  sad :(02:57
zombicstry to install the ati new driver...02:58
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zombicsfglrx if i remember right02:58
yccozombics new ati driver?02:58
zombicsthe ones that give you the 3D acc...02:58
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zombicshmmm dont remember dint use ATI from the time i used mdk 9 :O03:00
ycco:/03:01
yccosimply worked out of the box with Fedora Core 1.0.  I wouldn't see why there would be a problem.03:01
yccoI wonder what they are doing to get it to work where it won't on Ubuntu.03:02
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ray__I've just managed to intall Ubuntu, how do i get it to start up in terminal mode?03:03
zombicscoz here the auto config dint work 4 me 2 :P03:04
ograycco: looks like a typical hoary bug03:04
yccoogra Cool, but I'm on warty.03:04
yccoheh03:04
ograycco: with all the standard packages ?03:04
yccoyah03:04
ograycco: no extra repos ?03:04
yccohaven't done anything... haven't been able to do anthying.... X no workie :)03:04
zombicswhen i try to compile a theme i get this error:03:05
Quest-Masterycco: You probably had a bad CD03:05
yccoogra well, if Universe is considered "extra" ok...03:05
zombics/usr/share/qt3/bin/uic -L /usr/lib/kde3/plugins/designer -nounload -o about.h ./about.uiuic: File generated with too recent version of Qt Designer (3.3 vs. 3.2.3)03:05
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ograycco: nope...univerfse is ok03:05
yccoQuest-Master heh, that's silly03:05
Quest-Masterycco: It happened to me once. ;)03:05
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yccotoo many people seem to say "Bad CD" to cover everything.03:05
ycco can't get mail working... "Oh, you probably had a bad CD"03:05
ograycco: but some ppl mix hoary and warty (which is bad) or warty and debian sid (which is really evil)03:05
yccohehe03:05
Quest-MasterWell I had the exact same case. X wasn't apparently installed, and it turned out to a bad CD. :\03:06
Quest-MasterI haven't said that about any other case though. :P03:06
yccoogra hey... know how I can get console in high res?  (so it'll help with browsing in console)03:06
Quest-MasterWas X ever working in the past?03:06
kezzzombics, i believe the kde in warty is only 3.2.3 so it only provides 3.2.3 libs03:06
yccoQuest-Master yes, on this laptop under RH 8/9 FC1 for years @ 1400x105003:06
ograycco: on boot hit escape.....then edit the kernel boot line.... vga=791 gives you 1024x768@25603:07
zombicskezz, so what i need to do? :O03:07
yccoI have tried 640 @ 8bpp and no luck03:07
kezzzombics, you need kde 3.303:07
Quest-Masterogra: Is there any way possible to resize an ext3 partition? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1011203:07
kezzwhats hoary's version?03:07
afonitdoes anyone know of a program that can open a multiple page tiff file on linux/ubuntu?  I don't know which one would do it on windows but on the mac their 'preview' app does it03:07
yccoogra ahhh ok.03:07
ograkezz: the release date03:07
ograkezz: 05.0403:07
yccolet me try that.  I'll be back in a bit guys.03:07
zombicskezz, ubuntu sources dont have it yet right?03:08
kezzogra, no i meant what version of kde does it currently have03:08
kezzzombics, no i don't think so you could try editing the files with qt-designer to see if its just a version stamp issue03:08
ograkezz: oh, no idea, i dont use kde ;)03:08
kezzogra me neither03:08
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ograkezz: but i think i heard roumors about 3.303:08
kezzzombics,  in that case you could upgrade to hoary if you really need this app to work, but to be honest i'd look for an alternative03:09
ograQuest-Master: sorry i dont know how to get this work....but you really should consider a LVM installation for your next linx ;)03:10
ogralinux even03:10
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lonewolffi have fixed the dns issue, but does anyone know why i cannot install gnome themes?03:10
kezzQuest-Master, get the partition magic demo if you have windows on the box03:11
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feAR`hey,there was a bootsplash in live cd, then i installed ubuntu ;( it`s gone.03:13
feAR`;] 03:13
feAR`do i need patch kernel and so on? or just to get theme and run it ?03:14
feAR`;] 03:14
ografeAR: live and install are a bit different ... this will change in hoary03:14
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feAR`ogra, in hoary, i`ll have bootsplash?03:14
feAR`x] 03:14
yccoogra heh, where do I put the vga=791 again?  it didn't take.03:15
ografeAR: nope, something better...bootsplash is crap03:15
yccoi did the e  on the kernel line  and put it in there at the end.03:15
ograycco: thats my kernel line: kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.8.1-3-386 root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet splash pci=noacpi vga=79103:15
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yccoogra maybe It didn't save or something.  Let me try again :)03:16
yccobbiab03:16
WardIn which file can i put my wireless settings? I set them in /etc/pcmcia/network.opts, but it doesnt change the settings after a reboot pcmcia stop/start03:16
ograWard: /etc/network/interfaces or use the gui tool in your computer->system tools  menu03:17
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Wardogra: that 's for the IP settings, not the wireless ESSID/key/...03:17
kurtwj03:18
ograWard: nope...03:18
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Wardoh03:18
Wardi'll try the GUI then :p03:18
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ograWard: here is a example with WLAN settings: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/howto/ndiswrapper/03:19
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Wardok03:19
Wardtnx03:19
feAR`what is something better than bootsplash03:20
feAR`?03:20
ografeAR: usplash03:20
feAR`oh03:20
ografeAR: the ubuntu bootsplash.....03:20
feAR`first time i heard about it ..03:20
feAR`ograohhh03:20
ografeAR: search on the wiki03:20
feAR`okay then03:20
feAR`it`s what i want ;)03:20
feAR`thank you very much ogra.03:20
ogra:)03:20
Wardare there lm-sensors binaries/sources in ubuntu or should I compile it by myself?03:21
ograWard: its there....03:22
ograWard: in universe :)03:22
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krixhey there.03:23
krixi'm using hoary and i got a small probelm with xorg :)03:23
ograheh03:23
krixI uncommented the Load "glx" line in xorg config03:23
krixbut in Xorg.log it says that:03:24
Wardogra: oh ok03:24
krixCould not open module 'glx'03:24
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krixFailed to load module "glx" (module doesn't exist, 0)03:24
danielsyou're using the nvidia binary driver, aren't you?03:24
krixyep03:24
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yccow00p, figured it out ogra03:25
danielsknown broken, watching the fixed version build now03:25
danielswill be in later today03:25
yccohow do I edit it so it's permanent?03:25
krixoh.03:25
krixany workaround for this ?03:25
yccoI did a locate grub.conf and couldn't find one.03:25
yccoalso... I seem to have X in 640@8bpp now. heh03:25
ogradaniels: how about my little imac bug....if i understood you correctly its not fixed yet ?03:25
krixanother question03:25
krixhow can i prevent some modules to load at startup automatically ?03:26
danielsogra: not yet; it's, um, difficult to solve03:26
danielsbut i know how to solve it03:26
krixi want to "disable" the snd_81xm module (modem sound driver)03:26
ogradaniels: keep in mid that this is a special edition...03:26
krixany modules.skip file or something else ?03:26
danielsogra: yeah, it's typical apple breakage though03:26
ogradaniels: afaik the first imac that could do 1024x768.....03:26
kezzkrix, maybe comment them out in modules.conf03:26
krixhmm03:27
danielsit's so broken it hurts03:27
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ograycco: /boot/grub/menu.lst03:27
kezzkrix, ive only been using ubuntu for 3 days so im not sure how it handles them03:27
krixkezz: comment out isn't working03:27
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yccoogra ahhh ok.03:27
krixbecause this module isn't in modules.conf:)03:27
krixany other idea ?03:27
zombicswhen i try to compile i get this error :<03:27
zombics/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lperl03:27
yccobawhahahahah03:28
yccoX works03:28
yccowtf?????03:28
yccoI got X working at 1400x1050 @ 24bpp03:28
ograkezz: ubuntu doesnt use modules.conf03:28
yccoall because I put in vga=791????03:28
ograhmm03:28
kezzheh see thats what i was worried about03:28
yccothat sounds freakin' odd03:28
yccobut hey... what do I care?!?03:29
ycco:)03:29
nevynycco: not really03:29
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ograkezz: hotplug/udev and /etc/modules are the relevant places to look for module stuff ;)03:29
zombicsno1? :/03:29
yccow00p, /me does a dance and drinks a little water.03:29
nevynycco: lots of chipsets have dodgy mode-switching functionality.03:29
ycconevyn hmmm03:29
yccowell, it works, so.... I'm a happy camper03:29
yccowhew.03:29
ogra:03:29
ogra)03:29
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yccobbiab... headed to X03:32
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Wardhmm, and where can I find the mkdev.sh for lm-sensors ? :)03:35
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Cloudchaserhmm this is very odd..i installed acroreader-plugin and restarted gnome with ctrl-alt-backspace now i have a blank black desktop03:36
Cloudchaserthe top and bottom bars are there03:36
ograseems nautilus got stuck......did you log out proper before hitting the keys ?03:37
Cloudchaserno03:37
jmobHave I broken my packages somehow? http://rafb.net/paste/results/icRwSD65.html03:37
Cloudchaseri'll try that ogra03:37
Cloudchaserbrb03:37
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jmobSeems all of the dev related X packages depend on 4.3.0.dfsg.1-6ubuntu25 but I have 4.3.0.dfsg.1-6ubuntu25.1 stuff installed.03:37
ograjmob: is your universe enabled ?03:38
danielsjmob: how did ou manage to get 6ubuntu25.1?  where did you intall it from?03:38
danielsoh right, warty-security03:38
jmobogra: yes03:38
danielssorry, never mind me03:38
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ogradaniels: wget does this too....if there is already ubuntu25 it assingns a .1 to the second one if you download manually....03:39
ograhmm, but only at the end indeed ...so this would be .deb.103:40
danielsogra: but yeah, there was a 25.103:40
danielsit was done for the xpm security issue03:40
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ograyup....i saw your msg....(was just to lazy to delete what i wrote before) :P03:40
yccoin X03:41
yccowhew.03:41
ycco:)03:41
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yccomy touchpad doesn't click though....   hmmm03:41
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Cloudchaserhad to restart03:42
Cloudchaserlogging out and back in didn't work...03:43
jmobI'm running amd64, I put debian and Marillat's amd64 repos in my sources.list so I could install mplayer, but I -tried- to set up my apt_preferences so that only packages that were really needed would get dragged in from debian's amd64, so that might've caused the problem, but I'm getting the feeling now that it might not've been the problem and all the dev packages are just broken...03:43
Cloudchasernow to see if the plugin works03:43
ograCloudchaser: next time give your gnome session a chance to save itself before killing it with a gun ;)03:43
Cloudchaserso ctrl-alt-backspace isn't a good thing?03:44
ograCloudchaser: not if there are open apps .....03:44
Cloudchasergotcha03:44
ograjmob: you shouldnt mix debian with ubuntu.....03:44
Cloudchaserand tada! the plugin worked ;)03:44
jmobogra: yes, I'm aware03:45
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ograjmob: for the worst case you could compile the packages from the debian source with ubuntu dependencys03:45
jmobogra: however, there were serveral packages that weren't present anywhere on ubuntu, afaict03:45
ograjmob: mplayer for example is in multiverse....what else did you miss ?03:46
jmobogra: I'm probably just mistaken, I don't think I had multiverse in my sources.list at the time.03:47
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ograjmob: ubuntu is a 100% sync from sid....even if some packages dont build, you will still have 99% of them available ;)03:48
ograso no need for debian sources ;)03:48
jmobogra: Yes, it seems like mixing the two will eventually cause very bad dependancy problems.03:49
ograyup03:49
ograespecially since the upstream freeze for hoary is today....03:49
ograso they will start to drift apart from now on03:50
jmobSo... should I report a bug, or assume I fubar'ed things?03:50
ograjmob: a bug ? about what ?03:50
jmobogra: I can't install any dev packages, my orginal question :)03:50
jmobogra: any dev packages related to X at least03:51
ograjmob: its clearly not supported to mix the distros....03:51
jmobogra: yes, but I don't think that caused the problem03:51
ograjmob: so what app do you want to blame for that ?03:51
jmobogra: eh?03:51
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ograjmob: if you got a bug you need to assign it to an app....so you want to blame apt/synaptic for mixing up your repo lists ?03:52
supertedisn't it supposed to be possible to choose both POP or POP3 server at the incoming mail options in evo 2.0.2 ?03:52
ograsuperted: yup, it is....i use it here ....03:53
dabaslon+-both POP or POP3 :)03:53
krixhm a question :) if i want to create a l10n package for openoffice then in small story what i need to do ?03:53
krixi want to contribure openoffice-l10n-hu package for my desktop and other ppls :)03:53
supertedogra: i thought so too. but i only have "POP" in my list among others03:53
ograkrix: start with buying a HUGE machine ;)03:53
krix(i already builded many debian packages)03:53
supertedand it doesn't seem to work with my mail server03:54
krixogra: that isn't a problem ;)03:54
krixi got a Dual Xeon with 4gig ram :)03:54
jmobogra: Not exactly! I think all the dev packages need to be updated to reflect the version change from 4.3.0.dfsg.1-6ubuntu25 to 4.3.0.dfsg.1-6ubuntu25.103:54
krixso btw. i asking the "way of build an ubuntu package"03:54
krixbut not how we build debian packages with dpkg.03:54
krix:)03:54
ograsuperted: here is only pop too...so it obviously is the pop3 proto03:54
Wardcan you install debian packages without a problem in ubuntu? I want the development version of fluxbox, but ubuntu only has the stable ones03:55
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ograkrix: as you build debian packages...the tools are the same ;)03:55
krixogra: or where can i send some email or anything to somebody make an officially openoffice-l10n-hu package ?03:56
ograkrix: your distribution version should contain something like -ubuntu103:56
krixi mean some "whislist" or some package request03:56
krixubuntu103:56
ograkrix: the ubuntu-develmailing list would be fine i think03:56
krixsome docs about releasnumbering policy ?03:56
ograkrix: not to my knowledge, but if something official exists it will be in the wiki03:57
krixokay. i will see03:57
krixthx.03:57
randabisyum fried potatoes03:58
ograkrix: and see if you can get a quad xeon with 8gig ....its twice as fast *g*03:58
krixlol03:58
krixthat is too much price for me :P :)03:58
randabisI'd go for a double quad opteron :p03:59
ograheh03:59
supertedogra: proto?03:59
ogracol03:59
ograsuperted: protocol03:59
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randabisquitters never win!04:14
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kurtwAnyone know of a resource for PHP5?04:25
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SmokingFireDo you know a good cross platform (gnome and windows) widget set for python?04:38
SmokingFireI want to learn python and do some personal tools with it but I need to use them under windows and ubuntu04:38
dudwxwidgets?04:39
ZzeCoOlunder windows04:39
ZzeCoOl?04:39
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SmokingFireyeah I know of wxwidgets. I just wanted to know what other people think04:39
mjrwxwidgets might provide better windows integration, but I'll toss straight gtk into the fray anyway04:40
SmokingFirethere is also pyGTK but it doesn't have a native look and feel on windows I think.04:40
mjrgtk works on windows too, and I've coded it with python, and it wasn't bad04:40
dudqt has python bindings doesnt it?04:40
SmokingFireI'm using winGAIM right now, although it works great, the look and feel is not win3204:41
jul-lehas anybody got the same error on amule? ERROR: zlib MUST be used, not only advertized.04:41
mjrSmokingFire, well, there's gtk-wimp, which uses the windows theme apis for its look04:41
mjrhttp://gtk-wimp.sourceforge.net/04:41
mjrI think it's even integrated on new gtk versions04:41
SmokingFiredud: I hear/read great stuff about QT but two things. I want to do gnome applications and I hear the free (GPL) version for windows is outdated.04:41
mjr(though that might've been only development versions)04:41
mjractually, there is no free Qt for Windows04:42
mjr(IIRC)04:42
dudthe libraries for win is free arent they?04:42
mjranyway, if you want to do a gnome app, then I do recommend straight GTK04:42
mjr(with gnome stuff added in for optional usage)04:42
SmokingFiremjr: I thought there was a free (for GPL apps) version of QT but really outdated04:43
SmokingFiremjr: however  GTK-Wimp looks nice and I will have a closer look at it.04:43
mjrdud, not free as in libre, IIRC04:43
mjrmight've been free beer04:44
dudi believe its something similar to the mysql lisense04:44
dudso ive heard...04:44
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dudmmm, beer04:44
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dudi seriously need to drunk loads of beer this weekend04:44
mjrah, yes, there it was on the gtk-wimp front page: "GTK-Wimp integrated into GTK+ (Tuesday, 31 August 2004)" :)04:44
dudhad this strong urge ever since new years eve04:45
dudive been sticking to whisky lately when i go out, but i crave beer now...04:45
dudgood old plain simple beer04:45
apesanyone know how to disable the volume icon that appears on the Gnome desktop when you mount something?04:45
apesif i mount my ntfs partition, i get a disk icon on the desktop04:46
ZzeCoOlit happens with the cd roms or dvd roms too04:46
SmokingFireapes: you can create a shortcut04:46
apesyeah, there is a way to disable it04:46
apesi have dopne it before04:46
ZzeCoOli dont know :(04:46
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mjrgconf: /apps/nautilus/desktop/volumes_visible04:47
apeshow about how to disable the security warnings when trying to play like and AVI file and Gnome says "this in an asf file, please check for security before opening this file"04:47
mjruse gconf-editor to toggle that04:47
apesmjr, yeah i cant find the option in gconf04:48
El_Cheis a sound problem known when scrolling in gnome2.8 or in firefox?04:48
El_Chemp3 keep playing, but some noice is added04:48
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mjrhmh, well, that's what it should be04:48
apesmjr, got it04:48
superteddoes anyone know when evo 2.0.3 will hit warty?04:48
apesapps -> nautilus -> desktop -> volumes_visible04:48
apes:-)04:48
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mjrapes, yes, that's what I said ;)04:49
ZzeCoOlsuperted: thunderbird rocks betters04:49
stvnsuperted: never, most likely04:49
apesZzeCoOl, thunderbird does not have calendar04:50
stvnsuperted: warty won't get any updates other than security related ones04:50
apesZzeCoOl, i think the new mozilla proect will address that issue04:51
ZzeCoOli see04:51
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apesanyone know how to disable that dumb Gnome file open security warning?04:51
ZzeCoOli dont use calendar so... thunderbird  is the best for me ....04:51
andi__how can i setup grub, to boot automatically windows not linux?04:51
dudandi_, traitor hehe :P04:52
supertedstvn: until, march, may?04:52
apesandi_04:52
apesandi_04:52
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apesandi__, default04:52
apesandi__, who needs winodws anymore??!?!04:53
stvnsuperted: i got evo 2.1.2 here, in hoary04:53
supertedstvn: yeah i know. but hoary got to unstable for me :\04:53
stvnsuperted: than you've to wait untill march04:53
stvnsuperted: or at least untill the first RCs04:53
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supertedstvn: ok04:54
dudsunbird could be a nice calendar application04:54
dudhopefully04:54
apesyeah sunburd, thats it04:54
dudbut its in such an early stage...04:54
apeswell, with mozilla history im happy04:54
dudyeah04:54
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gaeaHi . . . I'm wondering if anyone else made the mistake of installing a firefox backport, followed by the inability to run firefox unless su'd, due to a JacaPluginFactory5 error.  I changed my apt sources from warty to hoary and removed the backport sources entry, then removed and reinstalled firefox, but no change. :-(04:55
gaeaThe error I'm getting is:04:56
gaea$ firefox04:56
gaea reg - nsGMNotifierProgressListener04:56
gaeaINTERNAL ERROR on Browser End: JavaPluginFactory5 init - no agent?04:56
gaeaSystem error?:: No such file or directory04:56
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apes#gnome04:59
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trukuloanyone with problems in pbuilder with sid ?05:00
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yccohmmm05:04
yccohttp://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/archive/5/2004/10/3/24070705:04
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pybefinally got the net install going on my laptop without any pxe stuff! Ubuntu here we come!05:05
krixhmhm05:05
krixwhen hoary xorg fixed packages will be available ?05:06
yccocan't seem to get the touch pad working.05:06
krix(glx module fix)05:06
krixanybody knows ?05:06
pybeycco: which pad is it?05:06
yccopybe: it is built into my Dell Inspiron 7500 laptop05:06
stvnkrix: what vidcard?05:06
stvnkrix: i'm not aware of any xorg glx problems here05:07
pybeycco: should be synaptic i think05:07
pybeycco: does it not work at all?05:07
yccopybe: here is what I added to my menu.lst05:07
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pybeycco: that will be dealt with by xfree config05:07
yccokernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.8.1-4-386 root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet splash vga=791 psmouse.proto=imps05:07
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yccopybe: it moves the mouse.... but doesn't allow you to "click"05:08
yccoas it did under Fedora Core 1.005:08
krixnvidia05:08
krixstvn : nvidia binary drivers vs xorg glx module :)05:08
krixxorg can not load glx module. It say No such module "glx"05:08
krix:)05:08
pybeycco: thats set in the /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 under the mouse settings05:08
stvnah, no nvidia here, so i wouldn't know05:08
krixhm05:09
krixi thought this is a base probelm with xorg05:09
krixnot just nvidia related05:09
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stvnkrix: you got an url of the description/bugreport05:09
krixstvn: no05:09
krixthis is my problem :) somebody said that this is a know problem05:10
krixand it will be fixed today at somethimes05:10
stvn:)05:10
krixbrb. go to xchat05:10
stvnkrix: ah ok, well update to the latest en greatest and try it ;)05:10
pybeycco: do dmesg | grep Synaptics and see if anything comes up05:10
yccok05:10
yccoSynaptics Touchpad, model: 105:11
yccoinput: SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad on isa0060/serio105:11
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krixre05:11
krixso anybody knows ? :)05:11
etitesstill witht he backward names eh?05:12
yccoetites: heh05:12
pybeycco: do grep synaptics /etc/X11/XF86Config-405:12
yccoetites: logged in as occy already05:12
yccoroot@distance:~ # cat /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 |grep Synap05:12
yccoroot@distance:~ #05:12
etitesawesome05:12
etitesim so bored now05:13
etiteshehe there nothign to do on linux05:13
pybeycco: try lowercase s05:13
etitesnot that there was on windows... but still05:13
yccono love05:13
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etitesi tried running ut2003 linux demo05:13
yccopybe: didn't work that way either.  (didn't find anything)05:13
etitesit keeps dropping me to desktop and random points without errors05:13
pybeycco: this link should help you out, you need the synaptics driver and some settings in the XFREE Conf http://madpenguin.org/cms/?m=show&id=88705:14
apescan someone tell me to to disable the gnome file open security warnings?05:14
yccopybe: k, I'll read.05:14
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yccopybe: sites not resolving.05:15
pe7erer. sorry, quick question, i "accidently" typed dpkg-reconfigure -a in the shell -- if i abort it with ctrl-c, will anything break?05:15
pybeycco: never mind i think is apt-get-able05:16
srbakerpe7er, probably not05:16
pe7ersrbaker, thank you05:16
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pe7er%(05:16
srbakerpe7er, what's wrong with just letting it go?05:17
srbakerpe7er, keep hitting <enter>  it'll have whatever you selected the first time as default :)05:17
pe7eryes?05:17
pe7erreally?05:17
pe7eroh let me hug and kiss some devs now05:17
kurtwAnyone know of a resource for PHP5?05:18
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feAR`how to create an icon/link to My Computer on Ubuntu? x] ] 05:21
feAR`on Desktop i mean x] 05:21
Poprocksjust drag it from the menu to the desktop05:22
kentfeAR`, in gconf-editor (its in Program->system tools  - called something else there though, something with edit in the name).  Tell me if you find that program and il help you from there.05:22
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feAR`i`m there ;p05:23
feAR`as i see, it`s ubuntu patch :}}05:23
feAR`kent, ok05:23
kentfeAR`, then go to apps->nautilus->desktop  and enable the right icons.05:23
feAR`ok thanks05:24
kentfeAR`, do you understand?  :)05:24
feAR`i know what`s next05:24
feAR`x] 05:24
feAR`thanks.05:24
etitesis there a stylexp thing for gnome?05:24
pybeetites: themes05:25
etitesyea....05:25
krixhm05:25
etitesbut how good are they05:25
pybeetites: vgood05:25
krixanybody got problems with evolution 2.1 in hoary ?05:25
kentetites, you meen themes that looks like xp? yes. Look at art.gnome.org and  gnome-look.org05:25
krixi setup my email account05:25
krixhit to send&recive05:25
etiteslike on style xp they morphed everything... i had my windows looking like a mac05:25
krixand no mail arriving.05:25
etitesnot like xp05:25
etitesno05:25
krixauthenticate well but no mail05:25
etitesjust something cool05:25
krix:)05:25
etitesvampiric if possible05:25
kentetites, those sites have lots of themes.05:26
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etitesGDM themes?05:27
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kentetites, yes. gdm etc.05:28
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SeabookHi guys.05:28
AndyFitzhi Seabook05:29
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SeabookIs there a URL from which I can check Ubuntu's apt list from the web browser?05:29
etitesdoes gdm mean login screen because thats all im seeing05:31
etitesis login screens05:31
supertedSeabook: do you mean to browse the repositories?05:32
RuffianSoldierput in the address of the repos in browser address ba?05:32
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Seabookcuz I'm at school now and I don't have access to my Ubuntu box.05:32
supertedSeabook: then do like RuffianSoldier said05:32
SeabookWhat's the address? :D05:32
supertedubuntuguide.org05:32
yccopybe: yeah, that didn't seem to do it.  :/05:32
supertedhas them05:32
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TopDogThis is a stupid question I know, but I'm used to RPM based distro's... when I download a .deb file manually, how do I install it?05:32
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AndyFitzhttp://andy.fitzsimon.com.au/screenshot.jpg  - gimping it up in ubuntu  :P05:32
Potajewenas05:32
RuffianSoldierThe page cannot be found05:32
RuffianSoldier The page you are looking for might have been removed, had its name changed, or is temporarily unavailable.05:32
supertedAndyFitz: nice :)05:32
kentTopDog,   dpkg -i PackageName05:32
TopDogkent, thanks... any way to add a folder to Synaptic?05:32
AndyFitzcheers superted.  I've gotta head off to sleep now ciao05:33
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etitesdo the themes alter just login screen... or do they alter everything05:33
supertedwhat's the name of the pacakge that the updates wallpapers comes with?05:33
kentTopDog, well, i dont know that right now. But there is probably a howto on the ubuntu homepage for that05:33
TopDogsuperted, "ubuntu-calendar"05:33
supertedTopDog: thanks05:33
supertedTopDog: doesn't december exist?05:36
kentetites, the gdm-theme changes gdm,  gtk+-themes changes applications,  etc. There is probably information about that on the pages.05:36
TopDogsuperted, did in desember at least.05:36
SeabookIs there GnuCash in Ubuntu's apt repositories?05:36
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RuffianSoldierSealbook - apt-cache search gnucash05:40
RuffianSoldierDOING!05:40
etitesso i need gtk05:40
etites1 or 205:40
RuffianSoldier..................05:42
RuffianSoldierget both....05:42
etitesi dotn have it already?05:42
RuffianSoldierim sure you do05:42
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dud........................05:43
etites...................05:44
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El_Cheany idea why there is noise when scrolling (AC97 card)05:47
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etitesok i dont see a single theme i wasnt05:48
etiteswant*05:48
etitesthis sucks05:49
dudfor further dottage, i'd reccomend perl -e 'while (1) { print ".";}'05:49
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RuffianSoldier/name JumbaJibbaJo!05:50
RuffianSoldier???05:50
RuffianSoldierOH!05:50
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MagicFabHi05:51
dudo hoi there sailor05:51
JumbaJibbaJoWHOAH05:51
MagicFabI need some help printing from Ubuntu to an HP printer shared from a WinXP machine05:51
JumbaJibbaJotalk about.................. nvm.............05:51
JumbaJibbaJoMagicFab - here is waht you do - boot into WinXP - then print it from there because Linux sucks05:52
MagicFabThe tool in Computer | System COnfiguration | Printing doesn't seem to provide network browsing of Windows shared printers...05:52
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dudyou have to fiddle with samba to get your shared windows files and printers working afaik05:54
Poprocksyeah there seems to be a problem with ubuntu's samba client, or gnome-vfs.. either way it's really annoying05:54
MagicFabPop: it's not even that it doesn't work, it's just that the included tool does not seem to provide for auto-discovery of networked printers05:55
PoprocksI see, I haven't even required that for my particular setup05:55
Poprocksbut browsing network shares doesn't seem to work05:56
MagicFabI am able to browse the Windows shares in the network05:56
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Poprocksoh05:56
JumbaJibbaJoi am not :-(05:56
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Poprocksmaybe it's just broken in hoary05:56
MagicFabvia Computer | Network05:56
PoprocksMagicFab, for the printing thing, can't you just type it in?  That's what I usually have to end up doing in windows anyway05:57
Poprocksbut if it doesn't include a network browser, it probably shoult05:57
Poprocksshould*05:57
MagicFabI'd love to do that if I knew what to type in in the first place.05:57
MagicFab"Host" could be different things...05:57
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MagicFabI see no help05:57
PoprocksI'm at school right now so I can't take a look05:58
MagicFabUnder KDE it's pretty straight forward05:58
Poprocksyeah KDE's printing system is a lot better than gnome's imho05:58
MagicFabperhaps there's another tool for CUPS config via GUI ?05:58
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Poprockswell my class is over, g2g :)05:59
mjrumm, yeah, that's not so much of a gnome thing but a CUPS thing05:59
mjrbut yes, it should include a browser05:59
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MagicFabmjr: that's what I meant... however the KDE desktops I've seen already integrate the CUPS config utils06:00
MagicFabjust trying to explore this from a usability point of view06:00
MagicFab:D06:00
mjryes, and your main point is quite well taken :)06:00
mjr(though irrelevant for me, no windows printer servers thankyouverymuch ;)06:01
MagicFabIt just so happens that I am often at my customer's location (which still have lots of printers shared this way)06:02
MagicFaband it's the only way to print for me06:02
mjryep06:02
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mjryou probably have to succumb to checking the printer names with smbclient -L06:02
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mjrwas it ESR who actually wrote an article on how bad the CUPS config utility is recently06:03
mjryeah, http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/cups-horror.html06:03
mjrok, not that recently :)06:03
da_bon_bonhi all06:04
da_bon_bonhow do i change the mirrors that apt uses ?06:04
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mjredit /etc/apt/sources.list06:04
mjr(there might be a way to do it from synaptic, but I wouldn't know about that)06:04
da_bon_bonmjr: ok.06:04
MagicFabI've also heard the GUEST account has to be active!06:05
MagicFabmjr: that's a start - not familiar with smbclient06:05
MagicFabI see it doesn't report the printer, but I get other info on the host06:05
mjrbugger06:06
MagicFabda_bon_bon: you also go to *Computer | System Configuration | Synaptic Package Manager*, and in Synaptic, choose *Settings | Repositories*06:07
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da_bon_bonMagicFab: thank you...06:07
MagicFabda_bon_bon: from there you can activate existing repositories or add new ones06:07
da_bon_bonMagicFab: hmmm06:07
MagicFabda_bon_bon: both ways (editiing the file or goign through the GUI) require a password06:08
ZzeCoOlis thjere any way to setup ubuntu network to use a specific login name and password for a samba network?06:08
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da_bon_bonMagicFab: i have sudo with NOPASSWD..06:08
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MagicFabthat works too06:09
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ZzeCoOli cant access windows shares with ubuntu network06:09
izaacdid you alredy check the ubuntu guide?06:10
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ZzeCoOlno?06:10
MagicFabZzeCoOl: I remember that was possible with the linneighborhood package06:10
ZzeCoOlis there any giude for the network?06:11
MagicFabZzeCoOl: let me try it, I have a related proble (with printers)06:11
ZzeCoOlok06:11
MagicFabZzeCoOl: I've been looking for that too06:11
ZzeCoOlim waiting06:11
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ZzeCoOli can access the share only with smbmount06:11
MagicFablinneighborhood package depends on smbfs which is used to mount Windows shares it seems06:12
ZzeCoOlbut i want to make ubuntu network work to06:12
MagicFab(which can be used to set them up permanently, which I think is why it includes provision for saving password info, etc.)06:12
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jadawinhi all06:12
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MagicFabZzeCoOl: for that you need to install Samba server06:13
MagicFabwhich is also available in the packages06:13
MagicFabeither from Synaptic or from the command line with apt-get06:13
ZzeCoOlhmmm06:15
MagicFabZzeCoOl: one you install the linneighborhood packe, you have to invoke LinNeighborhood from command line...06:15
ZzeCoOli want to access windows shares from my linux box....and this one needs Samba server?06:16
MagicFabZzeCoOl: yes06:16
ZzeCoOlsec06:16
MagicFabSamba provides networking services for shares to be used from Windows06:16
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ben_dMagicFab: I thought you just could get by with smbfs06:17
ZzeCoOlben_d: u can but Computer -> Network doesnt work06:18
MagicFabben_d: not sure about that06:18
ZzeCoOlu have to mount anything you want manualy06:18
ben_dZzeCoOl: ah ok, I mount everything out of scripts06:19
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ZzeCoOlwhen you are mounting with scripts there is also a problem.....06:19
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ZzeCoOlhow can you setup a share that you have writing access?06:20
ZzeCoOlare you mounting them in your home dir?06:20
MagicFabZzeCoOl: usually install the samba server06:20
MagicFabthen edit its config file06:20
ZzeCoOlor at the /mnt/06:20
MagicFabNot sure about Ubuntu06:20
ben_dZzeCoOl: I use smbmount with options for the correct user permissions06:20
ZzeCoOlok06:21
MagicFabben_d: Zze measn from a Windows machine (don't you) ?06:21
ZzeCoOlMagicFab: i mean from alinux machine06:22
ZzeCoOlMagicFab: i want to access windows shares from linux06:22
ZzeCoOlthats why i waz wondering about samba06:22
MagicFabZze: why would you want to setup a SMB share from Linux to access from Linux ?06:22
jadawinis there a chan for ubuntu maintainer ?06:23
MagicFab(just curious)06:23
ZzeCoOli said WINDOWS shares i never speak about smb shares06:23
ZzeCoOlwindows shares =shares in a windows machine06:24
ZzeCoOlright?06:24
kezzdoesn't nautilus do that?06:24
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ZzeCoOlComputer->Network works in ubuntu only if the windows share is setuped to lgin as a guest06:25
MagicFabZze: SMB share= Windows shares06:25
kezzsmb is the protocol06:26
MagicFabexactly06:26
MagicFabZze: not sure I got your question right from the start06:27
ZzeCoOlok then now im siting infront of a pc with ubuntu ...and i want to broswe smb or windows share of another pc in my lan that have windows installed....but it wants username and password to login06:27
ZzeCoOlthis is more clearly06:27
MagicFabok06:27
MagicFabIs there a password setup for the user that is sharing its files ?06:27
ZzeCoOlif i try computer->network doesnt working06:28
MagicFabUsually if there is no password set up, I specifiy only the user name and no password06:28
ZzeCoOlthere is a password setup06:28
MagicFabthat is the first authentication asked in some cases06:28
MagicFabthen if there is a password on specific shares, it's another level06:29
bretzelIs there any thing in ubuntu to play DVD movies ??? I installed all provided xine/maplyer stuff but no luck to play DVD ...06:29
izaacbretzel06:29
MagicFabwell, enter the user and password of the Windows machine session06:29
ZzeCoOli know the username and passwork and what im asking is if there is any way to make Computer->Network folder work06:29
izaacapt-get install libdvdcss206:29
MagicFabZzeCoOl: I know this can be setup permanently (with tools like linneighborhood) but haven't played much with that yet06:29
bretzelizaac: ? and what I am able to do with libdvdcss2 ?06:29
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ZzeCoOlMagicFab: u mish the point about hat im talking about all this time06:30
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izaacbretzel: to play protected DVDS06:30
MagicFabZzeCoOl: do you at least see a "Windows Network" icon when entering Computer > Network ?06:30
ZzeCoOlyes06:30
MagicFabThen you're supposed to see the workgroup(s)...?06:30
ZzeCoOli can also browse the share but only with the smbmount command06:30
bretzelcant get this pkg06:31
ZzeCoOlyes i can also see the workgroups06:31
MagicFabZzeCoOl: I see... I have the same problem (but with printers)... and the properties dialogs in that browser don't help06:32
bretzelizaac: libdvdcss2 not in any ubuntu sources06:32
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izaactry to add the marillat sources06:32
ZzeCoOl...06:32
MagicFabI think nautilus has extensions for dealing with SMB...06:32
ZzeCoOlok06:32
MagicFablet me see...06:32
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pybe-lappyfinally got some part of ubuntu installed on my laptop via hacked net install. x isnt right still. I am assuming that the window manager is not installed. What bits do i need to apt-get?06:33
pybe-lappyoh and whats the equivalent of rpm -q in debian?06:34
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mjrapt-get install ubuntu-desktop06:34
pybe-lappymjr: tks06:34
MagicFabZzeCoOl: still there ?06:34
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bretzelixaac: ,arillat - no such source06:34
MagicFabZzeCoOl: I see a package named gnome-vfs-extras06:34
pybe-lappymjr: just a small amount of stuff =)06:34
MagicFabZzeCoOl: which is described as:  a collection of gnome-vfs modules which allow you to06:35
MagicFabaccess files from different sources with programs which use gnome-vfs.06:35
MagicFabRight now, gnome-vfs-extras only contains an SMB module that allows you to06:35
MagicFabaccess Samba and Windows shares. This can be used within GNOME 1.x06:35
MagicFabapplications which use gnome-vfs to access files.06:35
pybe-lappywhats the equiv of rpm for deb?06:35
mjrdpkg06:36
mjrMagicFab, that's for old gnome 1 stuff06:36
bretzel izaac: marillat - no such source or wrong url...06:36
MagicFabyeah, mentions 1.x ... is there anything similar ?06:36
MagicFabfor 2.x ...06:36
izaacuse synaptic to add the sources06:37
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mjrthe gnome-vfs-2 smb module is in libgnomevfs2-common06:37
pybe-lappymjr: tks again06:37
Mestapheleshello06:37
bretzelizaac: the url I taken and put in synaptic: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ distrib: warty, section:marillat - fails06:38
Mestapheleslisten, I just did a check sum on a burner warty CD.  Shoudl it show the same checksum as the iso image I downloaded?  I don't have the same iso image anymore.06:39
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bretzelsorry - I don't want to be annoying but can only play manually selected indivisual .VOB file from DVDs there is no dvd navigate interaction that is why I ask for the missing stuff...06:40
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izaacbretzel: distrib is testing06:43
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GdCondorhi06:45
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GdCondorhow can i install evolution 1.4 on ubuntu (and not 2.0)06:45
kentGdCondor, why do you want 1.4?06:45
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GdCondorkent : i don't like 2.006:46
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GdCondorit's not possible to have a shortcut toolbar at the left of the screen...06:46
kentGdCondor, cant help you with that. Perhaps compile it from source then? or find some repository to add to synaptic that has evo 1.4.06:47
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bretzelizaac: ah ok thx: I gonna retry06:48
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HarutoXhihi06:50
HarutoXhow i can download the servers for amule?06:51
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coscohello people.. can you tell me how to install radeon drivers on ubuntu linux?06:51
HarutoXhow i can download the servers for amule?06:51
pybe-lappyHarutoX: there is a button at the top say update or something06:52
HarutoXoh ok06:52
HarutoXlet em try06:52
pybe-lappyHarutoX: got a url in the box next to it irc06:52
pybe-lappyHarutoX: fyi amule didnt work 2 well for me if you have trouble try xmule instead06:53
HarutoXty06:53
HarutoXi got servers now in amule06:54
HarutoX=)))))06:54
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HarutoXppl06:54
HarutoXi want to help all u06:54
kezzamule crashes when i connect06:55
tazlehmm06:55
tazlethe ubuntu installer is playing gameswith me06:55
tazlefor some reason I doesn't seem to like my partition tables06:55
HarutoXif it u havea problem here are a links for full howtoinstall all file:///home/haruto/Desktop/ubuntu/LO%20QUE%20YO%20KERIA.htm06:56
tazleit only shows one partition on my HDD, of type fat16 too06:56
HarutoXPPL THERE ARE THE BEST SUPPORT file:///home/haruto/Desktop/ubuntu/LO%20QUE%20YO%20KERIA.htm06:56
HarutoXREALLY06:56
tazlein reality there are multiple partitions, and cfdisk shows that too, when I start it in a shell06:56
HarutoXI DUN HAVE PROBLEM WITH MY UBUNTU06:56
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kentHarutoX, are you kidding?  that support is on your computer and nobody here can fetch it. Its impossible. What are you talking about?06:57
HarutoXlol06:58
tazleha!06:58
HarutoXjust kidding06:58
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tazleI knew it would be lol06:58
HarutoXhere only have the Basic06:58
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kezztazle, that sounds weird06:58
HarutoXkent where are u from?06:58
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tazlealso, I can't skip the partition editor phase, it keeps throwing me back into it if I hit "Go back"07:00
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kentHarutoX, sweden07:03
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yccocrimsun: you about today?07:06
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ionsany particular reason audio CDs would fail to play on a default install?07:08
DanielCHello. How do I configure mutimedia (e.g. MP3s, audio CDs) on a brand-new Ubuntu system?07:08
ionsheh07:09
ionsok, I'm not the only one07:09
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DanielC:-)07:09
pe7erhey, is there any help out there how i can bring my atmel chip based usb wlan adapter to life? i've found (& apt-get'd) the atmeldriver-source and atmeldriver-tools packages. plus i know of the existance of the 'inofficial driver' at berlios.de07:09
pe7erDanielC: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=94 ... any help?07:10
DanielCpe7er: thanks, I'll take a look at it.07:10
pe7er(i haven't got that far as of yet, but did quite a few things as noted at ubuntuguide.org)07:10
ogrape7er: doesnt the shipped atmel driver work for you ?07:10
pe7eroh. there is one?07:11
ograDanielC: here is everything in one page: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats07:11
supertedim trying to install php5 but it depends on libmm11 and says it can't be installed. i got libmm13 installed so what is the problem?07:11
kentpe7er, that page seems a bit overload? I only added restriced to apt, and installed the gstreamer-plugin for format. And it worked. totem-xine will play movies aswell, no need to compile stuff.07:12
DanielCogra: good good. Thanks!07:12
ogrape7er: there ate atmel_cs, atmel_pci and atmel07:12
ograare eveb07:12
pe7erhow do i get a list of loaded drivers?07:12
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ogralsmod07:12
kentpe7er, lsmod07:12
pe7erthx :)07:12
tazleargh07:13
tazlestupid partition damager07:13
ogrape7er: but i suspect the usb one needs the prism_usb driver07:13
pe7erlsmod|grep atmel = no output07:13
kwellerhi guys,i know this it OT, but i was wondering if i could ask something about webhosting?(or is there a channel for it?)07:13
pe7erlsmod|grep prism = no output, too07:13
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ogrape7er: so just try to run: sudo modprobe prism2_usb07:14
ogrape7er: and look at the last lines of dmesg07:15
kwelleri'm confused on something.the host offers "Shared SSL",but i'm wondering if thats just for when i admin the site,or is it for secure transactions?07:15
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ogrape7er: try this util you found the right one ;)07:15
ograuntil07:15
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pybe-lappygot my laptop nearly completely working now, cant find the wifi card though. It gets picked up under fedora fine and used a orinoco driver (dell true mobile 1500 i think) its a mini pci card prism based. any ideas how to set it up? It did give me the option to use it on the net install so i know ubuntu knows its there.07:18
feAR`ogra,07:18
feAR`i was upgrading my system to hoary, and i get an error07:19
feAR`Fetched 462MB in 5h51m2s (21,9kB/s)07:19
feAR`Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg/libxtst6_6.8.1-1ubuntu8_i386.deb  Connection timed out07:19
feAR`Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/python-sqlite/python2.4-sqlite_1.0-2ubuntu1_i386.deb  Error reading from server - read (104 Connection reset by peer)07:19
feAR`Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/p/python-htmltmpl/python2.3-htmltmpl_1.22-5ubuntu1_all.deb  Error reading from server - read (104 Connection reset by peer)07:19
feAR`E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?07:19
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feAR`ok, i fixed by myself.07:20
pybe-lappyok card info sees it as an Intersil PRISM2 11Mbps Wireless Adaptor. How do I set it up as a network device?07:21
xhypnoHello Room07:22
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pe7erogra: atmeldriver-tools brings an app called lvnet, its documentation reads "lvnet is the monitor utility for the ATMEL Wireless Card adapters. When the pcmcia module fastvnet_cs, the pci module  pcifvnet.o  or the usb module  vnetusba.o  is  loaded  the  lvnet  application can monitor the device's statistics or change it's runtime parameters." >> Looks good, but how can i load those .o files? it's not sudo modprobe vnetusba (did sudo modprobe -r07:23
pe7er prism2_usb for safety)07:23
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pe7erHell xhypno07:24
pe7erHello07:24
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pe7erany idea, anyone? or a hint to a howto would be nice. but i haven't found anything ubuntu specific, plus any info i found seemed to be written for users with a way higher 'experience level' than i have07:25
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KING^^^hello all , can someone help me with something , do i have to install my video card ? if yes how ?07:27
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yccohttp://occy.net/inspiron7500  <-- listing of my current problems with my Dell Inspiron 7500 and Ubuntu.07:31
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KING^^^hello all , can someone help me with something , do i have to install my video card ? if yes how ?07:31
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fleeceanyone get a KVM working nicely with Ubuntu?07:34
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zerokhi07:45
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siretarthi07:46
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siretarthow do I set environment variables for my gnome-session and all started applications?07:47
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pybe-lappygetting this error orinoco_cs: RequestIRQ: Resource in use how can i free up an irq?07:48
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khadyoungATI is better than nVidia07:51
Agrajagwhat07:51
khadyoungI mean, nVidia is better than ATI07:51
Agrajagwhat07:51
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khadyoungSorry, bad joke07:52
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khadyoungIt seems that ATI vs. nVidia flamewars are not allowed. Has this been a problem?07:52
ZzeCoOlhey guys i download linux kernel source but i cant find version.h in /usr/src/linux/include/linux07:52
Agrajagflamewars in general are discouraged07:52
GarathorHi. When i mount my windows-partitions in Ubuntu, i can't find my files and folders with characters like ,  and  in their names.07:53
AgrajagGarathor: add the option nls=utf8 in fstab07:53
Agrajagand remount07:53
ZzeCoOlwhere is version.h file?07:54
GarathorThankyou. Does this go for both FAT32 and NTFS partitions?07:54
AgrajagI think so07:54
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coscohello. i have a ati radoen 9800 PRO graphics card and dont know how to install the driver for it. can you help me ?07:54
ZzeCoOlcosco:07:55
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ZzeCoOlim trying 2 days now07:55
coscothis?07:55
coscoyou have radeon 9800 pro too?07:55
cardadorcosco: have you read the howto?07:55
ZzeCoOlit is the same no matter the model07:55
ZzeCoOlati driver is the same07:55
ZzeCoOli have 9700pro07:56
ZzeCoOlit is imposible to make tha latest drivers work ...07:56
ZzeCoOlbut i can give help about oldest drivers07:56
ZzeCoOlwith 3d support07:56
ZzeCoOlhttp://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto07:56
ZzeCoOlfollow this steps and you are gonna be ok07:57
coscook07:57
coscothank you07:58
ZzeCoOlnp07:58
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coscoanother question .. i runed an application with wine , and now it destroyed my resolution, how can i change it back ? xrandr doesnt work08:02
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hannes__glx broken on hoary?08:03
cardadorcosco: ctrl+alt+(+) or (-) will cycle through resolutions08:03
coscodiesnt work :D08:03
krixhalkeye, maybe yes.08:03
krixhalkeye, what is your problem ?08:03
halkeye'cuse me?08:03
coscoready.08:03
krixhalkeye, my problem is that xorg cannot load glx module because it say no such module "glx"08:03
coscoi clicked on COMPUTER -> screen resolution08:04
krixhalkeye, and at you ?08:04
cosco:D08:04
cardadorcosco: :)08:04
sensebendcosco, you'll need to edit your configuration08:04
sensebendfor whatever xserver you have08:04
cardadorkrix: have you installed the restricted modules for the driver?08:04
krixcardador, good question08:04
krixi installed from nvidia site08:04
krixNVidia.......run file08:04
cardadorkrix: wrong answer :)08:04
krixso not from ubuntu package08:04
krixcardador, why? :)08:04
cardadorwhy not?08:05
krixeh :)08:05
cardadorkrix: why not from ubuntu?08:05
krix'cause i can not create ubuntu package from nvidia-source08:05
krixi need it because i'm using kernel2.6.10-68608:05
krixand for that kernel package there isn't precompiled glx08:05
cardadorkrix: hmm ok08:05
krixnvidia-glx i mean08:05
krixbut. in xorg /usr/X11R6/modules/extensions/08:05
krixi see libglx.so08:06
krixwhat is linked to libglx-NVidia......so08:06
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krixbut xorg say to me that no such module "glx" ...08:06
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krixand don't know why. cardador, any idea pleaseeeeee ? :)08:06
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cardadorkrix: sorry, cant help you :( i havent got a clue08:07
krixmhm :(08:07
coscohello tidwave hello KING08:07
krixhow can i debug Xorg module loading ?08:07
KING^^^hello all , how cand i change my resolution bigger then 1024x768 ?08:07
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krixhm08:08
krixi try something for glx08:08
krixbrb08:08
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tritiumman, evolution SMTP auth has been broken a long time...08:12
tritiumI finally switched to thunderbird08:13
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abelliseb128: ding08:14
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caldwellit seems i'm missing some man pages.  i get nothing for 'man sprintf', 'man strcat', etc.  What need i install from Synaptic to get these?08:15
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brk3hi, could anyone tell me how to stop X for a while? I want to install my nvidia drivers but when i kill X it just seems to start up again automatically. is there a way of just stopping it?08:15
caldwellmanpages-dev?08:15
caldwellbrk3, init 308:16
caldwellchanges your runlevel to 'non-X' multiuser mode08:16
caldwellinit 5 to get back08:16
brk3caldwell: i remember typing that before and it did nothing!08:17
caldwellmanpages-dev did the trick.08:17
caldwellbrk3, wait a minute... ubuntu default runlevel is 208:18
caldwellhow odd...08:18
brk3caldwell: if i type that and then kill X will init 3 prevent it from restarting?08:18
brk3or should it just stop it straight away08:18
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caldwellbrk3, read up on runlevels08:19
kezzwould linux single at the boot prompt work?08:20
brk3sigh.. right so08:20
kezzno sorry im talking rubbish08:20
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leonelbrk3: /etc/init.d/gdm stop08:20
fabbionebrk3: just go to console and do /etc/init.d/gdm stop08:20
fabbionecaldwell: runlevels in ubuntu are not like in RH or Mandrake08:21
leonelbrk3: update-rc.d -f gdm remove08:21
leonelbrk3: /etc/init.d/gdm stop08:21
leonelbrk3: update-rc.d -f gdm remove08:21
fabbioneleonel: no08:21
fabbioneit's enough to stop it08:21
leonelwith this 2 X won't start at boot08:21
fabbionebrk3: just do /etc/init.d/gdm stop08:21
fabbioneleonel: he didn't ask to kill it forever08:21
fabbionebut only for the time to install the Nvidia driver08:21
leonel<brk3> caldwell: if i type that and then kill X will init 3 prevent it from restarting?08:21
fabbioneleonel: read the original question08:22
leonelok08:22
leonelwhatever08:22
brk3fabbione: if i do that wont gdm just restart automatically08:22
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fabbionebrk3: it will not start until you will type /etc/init.d/gdm start or reboot the machine08:23
fabbionebrk3: the "stop" means to not restart automatically08:23
brk3fabbione: perfect08:23
brk3thanks08:23
fabbioneno problem08:23
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GFXstyLERhi08:27
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coscocosco@ubuntu:~ $ glxinfo | grep render08:33
coscodirect rendering: No08:33
cosco    GLX_ATI_render_texture08:33
coscoi fallow your site.. on installing ati driver on linux08:33
coscoand ..08:33
coscoafter rebooting , no error but ... no direct rendering08:33
coscowhat can i do to have 3d acceleration?08:34
GFXstyLERi installed fglrx-driver yesterday, run fglrxconfig, now my x server was trashed again, wtf!08:34
brk3does anyone know if the mono package is big? im on dialup and am trying to download it. its not showing up the size though..08:34
GFXstyLERhad to install ubuntu again and do this damn configuring etc08:34
coscocan someone help me?08:35
coscoafter rebooting , no error but ... no direct rendering08:35
coscocosco@ubuntu:~ $ glxinfo | grep render08:35
coscodirect rendering: No08:35
cosco    GLX_ATI_render_texture08:35
coscoafter rebooting , no error but ... no direct rendering08:35
coscocan someone help me?08:35
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coscowhat can i do to have 3d acceleration?08:35
occyRemoving ubuntu-desktop ...08:35
occyRemoving mozilla-firefox ...08:35
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occywhen I apt-get remove mozilla-firefox08:35
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jarjachaholas a todxs08:36
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brk3occy: is there a way to uninstall firefox without uninstalling ubuntu-desktop? i take it uninstalling that would mess up everything08:38
tritiumoccy, ubuntu-desktop depends on mozilla-firefox08:38
tritiumthat's why...08:38
GFXstyLERubuntu-desktop should make no problems when uninstalling08:39
GFXstyLERi uninstalled it too because of totem-xine08:39
hannes__I have it uninstalled, nd no problems08:39
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GFXstyLERthese #*@!$ ati drivers make much more trouble :)08:40
HaNieLI'm having problems with my ubuntu install, it cant install the ubuntu desktop package for some reason08:40
HaNieLor rather, it cant install the openoffice help file, and therefore not the desktoppackage08:40
coscoplease .. someone .. help me08:41
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misticcosco: ati /nvidia-card?08:42
GFXstyLERati08:42
misticyeah just saw it08:43
coscomistic08:44
coscoyes.08:44
coscoati radeon 9800 pro card08:44
GFXstyLERi would just wait until ati released better drivers instead of 100 hours figuring out how to geht these drivers to work properly08:44
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cosco(yes , I HAVE ATI )08:44
misticcosco: that's odd, my friend has the same card and there it works perfectly08:45
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coscomistic .. i did your steps08:45
coscoand the kernel worked fine08:45
coscobut i have no 3d acceleration08:45
coscoany suggestions?08:45
misticdid you adjust your XF86-config?08:46
coscoYes08:47
coscoi did08:47
cosco       Driver          "fglrx"08:47
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misticwait a sec, i'm gonna try to get my friend over here :-)08:48
coscook.08:48
Feliusmorning all..08:48
misticif he's able to get online offcourse08:48
misticFelius: i would say good-evening, but whatever :-) goodmorning !08:48
Felius06:49 here ;)08:48
mistic20.49 here :)08:49
misticwhere ya from?08:49
FeliusTasmania, Australia.08:49
misticah08:49
misticbelgium here :)08:49
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BoYiep08:49
misticah cosco08:49
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coscoyes?08:49
misticthis guy might be able to help you08:49
misticBoY that is :D08:50
coscoBoY08:50
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BoYyes08:50
BoYwhat seems to be the problem?08:50
coscomistic told you have an ati radeon 9800 pro vicedo card and you install linux drivers on linux and it worked for you08:50
BoYidd08:50
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coscoi have the same card but .. it doesnt work , i installed the drivers , the kernet 686 but no acceleration08:51
coscodirect rendering: No08:51
coscoOpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect08:51
BoYphone08:51
FeliusI have a question which is probably a FAQ, but I can't seem to find the answer in a FAQ anywhere.08:52
misticFelius: did you check the forums?08:52
feAR`I upgraded from warty to hoarty my system, but there is no bootsplash..;/08:52
feAR`can someone help me08:52
misticcause a lot of would-be-faqs are answered there08:52
FeliusNo, hold on..08:53
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FeliusAhh, that looks like a good place to start.  Thanks, mistic.08:53
misticnp Felius08:54
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BoYhmmm08:55
BoYcosco: die you compile the right driver in the kernel?08:55
coscoBoY : i followed  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto <- this guide . step by step08:56
coscoand btw .. my mother board is nvidia nforce.. if it makes a difference08:56
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davmor2what the problem08:57
BoYthat could make the difference08:58
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coscoso .. what's your proposal?08:58
BoYfunky manual :08:59
BoY:)08:59
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davmor2BoY/cosco : what is the problem I have nforce 64bit chipset now and had VIA chipset before nvidia module works on both08:59
tid-wavedavmor2: cosco has ATI card09:00
tid-wavedavmor2: and doesn't have direct rendering09:00
BoYi should install the drivers for the ati site not true aptget09:00
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tid-wavedavmor2: he installed the drivers, is using the ati driver for X but direct rendering doesn't work, it uses Mesa renderer09:01
coscoZzeCoOl,  welcome back , and btw .. i follow the steps from that URL .. and the kernel works , but i dont have 3d acceleration09:01
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ZzeCoOl..09:01
tid-waveBoY: glxinfo | grep direct09:01
tid-waveBoY: what's the return ?09:02
davmor2boy : no apt-get drivers should work fine but they are proprietory drivers that need a restricted kernel have you downloaded it09:02
ZzeCoOlare u sure u dont have 3d support?09:02
ZzeCoOldid you try any 3d screensaver?09:02
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BoYi dont have a problem :)09:02
BoYmy pc works perfectly09:02
tid-waveBoY: i know but i was just curious :)09:02
coscocosco@ubuntu:/mnt/win1/Program Files/Yahoo!/Messenger $ glxinfo | grep direct09:02
coscodirect rendering: No09:02
coscoOpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect09:02
ZzeCoOlcosco:09:02
coscoi sure dont09:02
coscoi have 300 fps .. thats not 3d acceleration09:03
tid-wavedavmor2: he followed each step from the guide, i guess he has those modules09:03
BoYi'm not @ home @ the moment just logged in to my server so cant give you a return :)09:03
ZzeCoOldid you change ati with fglrx in Xfree xonfig file?09:03
tid-waveZzeCoOl: yes he did :)09:03
tid-waveZzeCoOl: i am logged on his machine09:03
ZzeCoOlati drivers are really pain in the ass09:03
tid-waveZzeCoOl: everything is installed as in the guide09:03
ZzeCoOlwait a sec09:03
ZzeCoOlcosco: plz go to synaptic and search fgl09:04
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coscok09:04
ZzeCoOland plz tell me the version of the drivers09:04
cosco2.6.8.1.3-5 <- last version09:04
ZzeCoOlhmm09:04
ZzeCoOlthen it have to work09:04
ZzeCoOli have problem only with the 3.14.609:05
feAR`where to get gaim-vv for ubuntu ? ;( i`m using hoarty..09:05
tid-wavehmm something IS strange09:05
tid-wavei see nvidia_agp09:05
tid-waveloaded09:05
tid-wavethere09:05
feAR`apt-cache search doesnt found .09:05
ZzeCoOlim did make it to install properly 3.14.6 but 2.6.8.1.3-5 waz working fine for me09:06
ZzeCoOlone thing is sure09:06
ZzeCoOlthis isnt any distros problem09:06
coscobrb reboot09:06
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ZzeCoOlthis Fag... ATi is the real problem09:06
ZzeCoOlthey only support windows09:07
tid-wavethey all suck because they don't have free drivers :)09:07
ZzeCoOland this minor driver is a filthy programmers shit that may work or not at every distro09:07
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coscoback09:08
ZzeCoOli like ATi performance in windows that it is way better than nvidia's but in linux ....nvidia rocks09:08
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davmor2tid-wave try running glxgears in terminal09:09
cosco-direct rendering: Yes09:09
cosco-    GLX_ATI_render_texture09:09
cosco-OpenGL renderer string: RADEON 9800 Pro Generic09:09
cosco-THANKS TID_WAVE09:09
ZzeCoOlthere are pathes about the kernel and stuff....but every sigle one that i tryied just doesnt make the game09:09
tid-wavecosco-: the guide had all the instructions .. you needed to put a line in the config09:10
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tid-wave        Option          "UseInternalAGPGART" "no"09:10
tid-wavethis one09:10
tid-wave:)09:10
ZzeCoOl?09:10
ZzeCoOlaha09:10
ZzeCoOlthis one09:10
ZzeCoOltid-wave:09:10
cosco-:)09:10
ZzeCoOlwhat driver do you use?09:10
ZzeCoOl3.14.609:10
ZzeCoOl?09:10
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tid-waveZzeCoOl: i don't have any problems .. i am not even using ubuntu but cosco- asked me for help :)09:11
cosco-TID09:11
cosco-AI DE PULA MEA09:11
cosco-CATI FPS09:11
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ZzeCoOli know that u dont have any problem09:11
tid-waveZzeCoOl: i am using nvidia driver09:11
ZzeCoOlim just curius about the driver that u use09:11
ZzeCoOloohhh ok09:11
tid-waveZzeCoOl: i have an nvidia Vanta 8 MB :)09:11
ZzeCoOlhahaahahah09:11
ZzeCoOlcool09:11
tid-wave3d accelaration wth :) i rule09:12
ZzeCoOlit is a console only machine though09:12
ZzeCoOlhahaha09:12
tid-wavenot really09:12
tid-wavei can run bzflag fine09:12
ZzeCoOleheh09:12
ZzeCoOlsilicon grapix performance09:12
ZzeCoOlhahahaha09:12
pe7erexcuse me, is anybody here whos got experience in installing the driver for an atmel chip based usb adapter?09:12
tid-waveovidiu@ovibox:/$ glxinfo | grep render09:12
tid-wavedirect rendering: Yes09:12
tid-waveOpenGL renderer string: RIVA TNT2/AGP/3DNOW!09:12
tid-wave:)09:12
cosco-zice no comaptible drive with direkt  draw09:13
cosco-sorry09:13
cosco-wrong channel09:13
cosco-:D09:13
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ZzeCoOltid-wave: i mess up with my driver setup so bad that after all here is my output of glxinfo | grep render :glxinfo: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory09:16
tid-waveyou must reinstall the driver09:17
dudhas anyone else been getting sound screwups after recent apt-get updates running hoary?09:17
ZzeCoOlahah09:17
tid-waveor hmmm09:17
ZzeCoOli allready did it09:17
dudesd works, but not alsa or oss for me09:17
tid-waveZzeCoOl: ls /usr/lib | grep GL09:17
ZzeCoOllibGLU.so.109:17
ZzeCoOllibGLU.so.1.309:17
dudwell, after a reboot it seems to work, for a while at least09:17
ZzeCoOlthis is what i get09:18
dudanyone know anything about this?09:18
ZzeCoOlany thoughts09:18
ZzeCoOl?09:18
dudi dont know, its frustrating when apt-get messes up more than it fixes09:19
dudbut it is development...09:19
dudbranch09:19
ZzeCoOltid-wave:09:20
ZzeCoOl?09:20
duddamn stupid of me to do a dist-upgrade now that everything was working so great...09:20
ZzeCoOlahmm09:20
tid-waveZzeCoOl: you don't have the needed file :)09:20
ZzeCoOlok09:21
dudimma try rebooting again...09:21
ZzeCoOlim trying to reinstall09:21
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Bandithello everyone09:22
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emwsonDoes anyone know if Nautilus use cdrecord to burn CDs?09:23
emwsonI can't get nautilus to recognize my blank CDs, but cdrecord works just fine.09:24
emwsonI'm running a custom kernel.09:24
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banditoocan someone tell me what the latest version of Ubuntu is09:26
emwsonbanditoo: 4.1009:26
pe7erok. i try a more detailed question: how do i know what packages are "prebuilt" into the ubuntu kernel? this manual i got tells me i've got to patch the kernel if it isn't patched in order to make it work for my configuration. google = no luck, wiki = no luck. but maybe i just don't know the corresponding lockpick (keyword) yet09:26
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banditooemwson thanks09:27
banditoo I have heard some great stuff about this disstro09:27
banditoothink I may give it a try09:27
emwsonpe7er: You can look at /boot/config-2.6.8.1-4-38609:27
banditoodoes it support cups?09:27
pe7erenwson: thanks09:28
pe7erbanditoo: of course(?)09:28
banditoonice09:28
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pe7eremwson: i'll have a cd to record in a couple of hours, will ps -x while it gets done if you're still there and don't know yet09:29
banditooare there any drawbacks to the distro I hear it is very user friendly and very fast09:29
pe7erbanditoo: it's a preview09:29
banditoo:) like many of them09:29
pe7erbanditoo: but if you want nothing too specific it works greatly out of the box09:29
pe7er(as for me)09:29
emwsonpe7er: Yeah, thanks. I'm stumped as to how Nautilus works and really could use some cues.09:29
banditoobut is it pretty configurable so that you can tweak and add things09:30
pe7ersure. you can mess up everything you want, it's a linux :)09:30
banditoolol09:30
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banditooah 1 last thing does it work with k3b09:31
pe7erdoesn't come with it by default09:31
dudk3b works like a dream for me on hoary09:31
pe7erbut apt-get will work afaik09:31
banditoowhats hoary09:31
dudonly issue is that when k3b tries to use kdelibs to make sound, it kills my sound in general09:32
banditoosorry for so many questions guys09:32
dudbut you can disable sound in the kde control panel09:32
pe7erbanditoo: the preview for the sucessor of the preview. get all info at the wiki09:32
emwsonHoary is the next, upcoming version of Ubuntu09:32
pe7er(e.g. current development release)09:32
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dudhoary has more up to date applications09:32
tmccraryHey09:32
dudand so forth more bugs heh09:32
banditoonice is it downloadable09:32
banditooand i just said i was sorry for the questions :)09:33
pe7erer. why do you ask them then?09:33
tmccraryDoes ubuntu have a public cvs server that I can access? I'd like to get the ubuntu-installer source. I know it's a debian fork, but I'd like to start with the ubuntu version09:33
pe7erbut i'm happy to be able to be able to answer to some questions09:33
pe7er:)09:33
banditoowell i am sorry but I want to know so I ask09:33
banditoo:)09:33
kezzbanditoo, just replace every warty in /etc/apt/sources.list with hoary and then update09:33
genif you don't know how to do it, then you shouldn't be using hoary09:34
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banditoohmmm09:34
emwsontmccrazy: I dunno, but guess that http://patches.ubuntulinux.org/patches/ is a start?09:34
banditoowell three of you guys were extremely helfull thanks09:34
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banditoobut there is always someone that needs to insult us dumb guys :(09:35
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tmccraryemwson, thanks. Although, I'd like to get anonymous cvs access (or svn..whatever) if possible. Patches are great, but not exactly what I'm looking for. :)09:36
emwsonHeh, tell it, brother...09:36
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emwsonDoes anyone know if Nautilus use cdrecord to burn CDs?09:39
tmccrarySo basically there's no way to get Ubuntu source? Or am I going to have to call them or something?09:40
kezzim not sure tmccrary i wouldn't mind a peek either09:41
emwsontmccrary: a quick mail to the devel mailing list or one of the maintainers might provide the quickest answer.09:41
tmccraryyeah, but you'd think they'd be like other distros and not have it completely hidden :) like cvs.ubuntulinux.org or something09:42
kezzalready tried that :P09:42
dudnautilus coasted a dvd+r for me09:43
tmccrarymaybe it's ran by canonical09:43
dudtrying to burn an iso...09:43
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emwsonI can burn CDs with cdrecord, but nautilus claims that there is no blank media in my CDRW?09:43
DagaZis it possible to make a netinstall of ubuntu?09:44
emwsonI'm running a custom kernel, btw.09:44
zenroxDagaZ,  yes go search the wiki09:44
zenroxwww.ubuntulinux.org/wiki09:45
DagaZzenrox: ok.. thx for the tip09:45
zenroxDagaZ,  n/p09:45
invisiblekidI recently used Partition Magic to partition a part of my WinXP hdd and install a second OS (Ubuntu) but now i cannot load into windows  It says it is missing xmnt2002 and autochk  Anyone know what the problem is?09:45
invisiblekidUbuntu boots just fine09:45
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tmccraryIt's a blessing :) j/k09:46
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emwsoninvisiblekid: Can you boot into safe mode?09:49
kentThe shared folders program in Hoary have a small problem (or perhaps the design of the system). It seems to start as root and as such,  it dont have my bookmarks in the file-selection-window when i add stuff to share etc. For a user that seems a bit strange, since it would be handy to have09:50
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invisiblekidi havent tried booting in safe mode emwson but i will try09:51
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emwsonIf you can't, I'd consider rescuing the files you need using Knoppix and then just reinstall the whole, darn Windows thing.09:52
invisiblekidok09:52
invisiblekidthank you09:53
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battletuxHi can anyone point me to a guide to setting up SSH on warty please?10:06
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zerokarmaleftcan someone running hoary check for me to see if ubuntu-patched 2.6.10 kernel sources are available?10:08
jdubbattletux: apt-get install openssh-server <- guide :-)10:08
battletuxthank jdub10:10
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pe7erbattletux: more at the wiki -- http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SSHHowto10:10
battletuxcheers10:11
battletuxi'll gho do some reading10:11
battletux*go10:11
pe7ermake sure to start sshd before connecting to it :)10:11
ZzeCoOlhey guys take a look at this ...10:11
ZzeCoOlroot@Afterburner:/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod # ./make.sh10:12
ZzeCoOlATI module generator V 2.010:12
ZzeCoOl==========================10:12
ZzeCoOlinitializing...10:12
ZzeCoOlError:10:12
ZzeCoOlXFree86 drm includes at /lib/modules/2.6.8.1-4-k7/build/include/../drivers/char/drm do not fit this driver.10:12
ZzeCoOlThis driver is designed to only work with X4.1.0 or higher.10:12
ZzeCoOlYou can match this by getting Linux kernel 2.4.8 or higher.10:12
ZzeCoOlroot@Afterburner:/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod #10:12
ZzeCoOldoes anyone knows what is wrong?10:12
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ZzeCoOl.10:12
esqueletohello people10:12
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krixhey there10:13
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siretartZzeCoOl: have you considered using linux-restricted-modules or if not avaiable module-assisstant?10:15
esqueletoone thing ... we can install ubuntu without been connected to internet ....10:15
ZzeCoOli did10:15
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esqueletoi don't know why but after the installation i he did not installed X10:16
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esqueletowhen i do startx ... i get the X binary is not in the system10:17
esqueletoi try to look in other places but was not in the system ..10:17
esqueletohow can i install it again with apt or alien from CD10:18
dudsudo apt-get install xserver-xorg10:19
dudshould do it10:19
dudor xserver-xfree if you want xfree8610:19
esqueletook ... i will try ...10:19
esqueletoi want xorg10:19
esqueletodo you think that X server was not installed for some reason ??10:20
jdubesqueleto: try installing ubuntu-desktop, see what it says10:20
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esqueletoubuntu-desktop ??? do you mean apt-get install ubuntu-desktop ??10:21
jdubyes10:22
esqueletook ..10:22
esqueletoi will try that too10:22
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esqueletoit said that i have some problems to resolve with dependecy ..10:24
esqueletoand connot do that ....10:24
kentesqueleto, did it say something about running "apt-get -f install"?  that usually fixes stuff.10:24
esqueletogive me some errors..10:24
jdubesqueleto: paste them - we can't help otherwise10:25
esqueletoit's in another computer .. i have to write it here10:25
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HaNieLehm.... im confused... how do i change runlevels in ubuntu??10:26
HaNieLlike init 3, console only and init 5 X ??10:26
esqueletowhat do you want me to paste here .. the fist error .. the one ask me to make apt-get -f install ... or the other ??10:26
esqueletothe second ??10:26
jdubthe first error when you try to install ubuntu-desktop10:27
esqueletook ...10:27
esqueleto...10:27
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esqueletoThe folling package have unmet dependecies10:27
HaNieLafter ive exitted GNOME how do i start it again????10:27
HaNieL/sbin/telinit 5 dont work10:28
esqueletoubuntu-desktop: Depends: gnome-pilot-conduits it is not going to be installed10:28
esqueletognome-system-tools10:29
esqueletolsb10:29
esqueletopython-gd10:29
esqueletopython2.3-pisock10:29
esqueletoslocate10:29
esqueletounzip10:29
esqueletovino10:29
esqueletowvdial10:29
esqueletox-ttcidfont-conf10:29
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esqueletox-window-system-core10:30
esqueletoxchat10:30
esqueletoxfree86-driver-synaptics10:31
zerokarmaleftstop flooding please10:31
esqueletoxpdf10:31
kentesqueleto, are you running hoary or warty?10:31
esqueletowarty10:31
jdubesqueleto: how did you do your install?10:31
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esqueletoi put the CD .. and start install10:31
esqueletosimple10:31
jdubesqueleto: this should definitely not happen - try running the install again, but do not update from the internet10:32
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esqueletoi don't have internet yet10:32
esqueletoin this computer..10:32
esqueletothe ubuntu did not detected the wireless10:32
kebaci have Teh Internte10:33
esqueletook .. i will try again10:33
kentI have the internet aswell ;)10:33
pe7eratmel chip based usb adapter?10:34
pe7eri need people to share this nightmare with me10:34
zerokarmaleftcan someone running hoary check for me to see if ubuntu-patched 2.6.10 kernel sources are available?10:34
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jdubzerokarmaleft: yes, of course10:35
zerokarmaleftexcellent10:35
LucidVisionshello all, Ive been on a 3 month hiatus10:36
LucidVisionsim back here to this wonderful ubuntu community10:36
LucidVisionsive been using osx,,but im back to unbuntu on an x8610:37
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jintonicheya, i just installed ubuntu warty and x wont start up10:38
zerokarmaleftLucidVisions, what did you do with your mac?10:38
xhypnoanyone running a server with ubuntu on it????10:38
LucidVisionszerokermaleft: I sold it for some serious $$10:38
LucidVisionsbuilt 2 pc's and got some phat herB10:39
LucidVisionsheh10:39
LucidVisionsit ran great,it was a powerbook10:39
jintonicx says: (EE) No devices detected.... fatal server error: no screens found10:39
xhypnorun xconfig and reconfig the display/vid card10:40
zerokarmaleftthat's a helluva bargain10:40
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jintonicxf86config, right?10:40
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LucidVisionsI had it for school,but now im back to hardcore x86 linux10:41
zerokarmaleftLucidVisions, welcome back :)10:41
LucidVisionsand ubuntu is my linux distro of choice10:41
LucidVisionsthanks10:41
LucidVisionsI pop in here once a week,http://www.osdl.org/10:42
LucidVisionsim like 5 miles away10:42
LucidVisionsits where Linux torvalds works10:42
jintonicok, no response so i'll guess thats right... horizontal sync i get stuck on... my lcd does up to 1024x768 at 60Hz and only 60Hz10:43
jintonicso what should the horiz sync be?10:43
LucidVisionsbut he stays home except 1 day a week or so10:43
LucidVisionsBeaverton,Oregon10:43
LucidVisionshttp://www.osdl.org/10:43
zerokarmalefti'd rather talk to andrew morton10:44
jintonicanybody?10:45
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Quest-MasterIs Linux originally European?10:46
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Quest-MasterI meant10:46
Quest-MasterLinus10:46
Quest-Master><10:46
zerokarmaleftlinus is finnish10:46
tmccraryDoes applications:/// work for anyone using Hoary?10:46
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tmccraryIn Nautilus10:46
Quest-MasterAh10:46
zerokarmaleftjintonic, what brand/model lcd do you have?10:46
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jintonicsony sdm-s5110:47
LucidVisionsuh,why andrew,he is always so buisy10:47
jintonici tried looking up the specs on it but for some reason acrobat is crashing10:47
LucidVisionsandrew morton drinks to much10:48
LucidVisionshehe10:48
LucidVisionsno one is from oregon here?10:48
zerokarmalefthe has more to say, but you're right...it's probably faster just to read his posts on lkml10:48
zerokarmalefti'd drink with him10:48
zerokarmaleftdrink his ass under the table10:48
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LucidVisionszerokermaleft: I acually beleive you could,,hehe10:49
jintonicalso: i'm using an ati radeon 9200 128MB video card, where should i get drivers specificly made for it instead of the generic driver?10:49
LucidVisionsyou sound like you should live here in oregon10:49
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LucidVisionsare most the people here from other countries?10:50
siimohi anyone here want to test a firefox cvs build optimized for athlon-xp's will also work on athlon-mp amd64 sampron and newer durons, i want to check if it works on ubuntu stable10:50
LucidVisionscontinents10:50
LucidVisionspardon my missspelling10:50
fleecewoohoo!  I just figured out how to get Ubuntu to work with my KVM.10:51
fleecenow my mouse doesn't schitz when I switch10:51
zerokarmaleftjintonic, i'll look em up for you10:51
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jintonicthank you10:51
LucidVisionsnon-us?10:52
LucidVisionsmost people here10:52
jintonicno way! heh... ati gives away linux drivers... its in rpm format though10:52
LucidVisionswhich is very cool if indeed so10:52
fleeceLucidVisions: I'm probably six miles from you right now10:52
xhypnorun xconfig and reconfig the display/vid card10:53
xhypnosrry10:53
xhypnoanyone running a server with ubuntu on it????10:53
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jintonicxhypno: writing a command shorthand isn't a good idea in case people dunno what command you're doing shorthand of :P10:54
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UnderPargreetings everyone from the land of ice and snow10:54
HrdwrBoBxhypno: yes10:54
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sensebendUnderPar, Canada?10:54
UnderParlol yeah10:55
UnderParOntario to be exact10:55
sensebend<=== is a canuck as well10:55
sensebendalso an Ontarian :)10:55
UnderParpleased to meet you10:55
xhypnoHrdwrBob: what services did you remove after the custom install, and what size partitions did you use?10:55
mopedI was wondering I have 2 harddrives and i just formated one and put ubuntu on it but the other one has all my stuff but with windows xp is there a way to acces that hdd from ubuntu10:55
sensebendyou too10:55
sensebendwhat area of Ontario?10:55
UnderParthanks10:55
zerokarmaleftjintonic, horizontal scan range = 28kHz - 61kHz, vertical scan range = 48Hz - 75Hz10:55
UnderParBarrie10:55
kebacmoped: there is, but you cant write ntfs with ubuntu10:55
sensebendI reside near Orangeville10:55
mopedi live in london ontario10:55
UnderPardamm we are neighbors10:55
HrdwrBoBxhypno: ubuntu runs no listening services by default10:56
HrdwrBoBso eh10:56
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sensebendI met someone in another room who lives down the street from me10:56
sensebendthe other day10:56
mopedlol10:56
UnderParsmall world10:56
mopedya10:56
sensebendon the same Cable node in fact10:56
UnderParwere they also using ubuntu10:56
zenroxlol10:56
sensebendno10:56
UnderPar:)10:56
xhypnoHrdwrBob: what did you do to activate them10:56
krixhmhm10:56
sensebendit was kinda creepy10:57
mopedhey can u guys help me with something i just installed ubuntu last night10:57
mopedI was wondering I have 2 harddrives and i just formated one and put ubuntu on it but the other one has all my stuff but with windows xp is there a way to acces that hdd from ubuntu10:57
krixso anyone knows why xorg writes to me for Load "glx" that -> no such module "glx" ???10:57
UnderParhey does anyone know how to set java up to work with Firefox/Mozilla10:57
krixi installed nvidia-sources nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common10:57
UnderPari just installed it 5 mins ago :)10:57
krixdid a m-a a-i nvidia10:57
sensebendUnderPar, follow the guide at http://www.ubuntuguide.org10:57
krixUncommented xorg.conf Load "glx" lines10:57
UnderParah ok thanks10:57
sensebendit works well10:57
krixand rewrite nv -> nvidia10:57
kebacmoped: already answered10:58
krixthen i restarted the whole xorg server10:58
krixnvidia logo shows10:58
krixbut GLX extension not loaded.10:58
zerokarmaleftmoped, follow the guide for mounting ntfs/fat partitions at http://www.ubuntuguide.org10:58
krix(II) LoadModule: "glx"10:58
krix(WW) Warning, couldn't open module glx10:58
krix(EE) Failed to load module "glx" (module does not exist, 0)10:58
krixplease please. Somebody say something :)10:58
tmccraryI have the same problem11:00
krixtmccrary, i'm happy :)11:00
tmccraryubuntu SUCKS at proprietary stuff (debian inheritance, i guess)11:00
krixbtw some ubuntu developer on this channel? :)11:00
krixor somebody say some workaroung please11:01
housetierthe simple approach: don't use xorg11:01
krixhousetier, this isn't an xorg base bug11:01
krixi'm running fine on other distros xorg6.8.1 with nvidia driver load glx :)11:01
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zombicswhen i am trying to compile  program(./configure) it tells me configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0.2) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!11:02
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housetierzombics you need some qt-dev package11:03
housetierI don't know the exact package name but it should end in "-dev", might be libqt-dev or so11:03
LucidVisionsOk,fleece: If you are, you have to register with the lab http://www.osdl.org/11:03
siimoanyone here use ubuntu or debian testing/unstable and an AMD cpu with SSE support and want to help me by testing my Firefox CVS build optimized for athlon-xp's works on these distro's ?11:03
LucidVisionsyou will love it, youll see many of the major players in the linux worl11:04
zombicsit was probebly libqt3-dev thx :)11:04
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siimoall i want to check is if it runs11:04
LucidVisionsSome of us love to burn some,and kick it there. We run linux cluster app11:04
LucidVisionsfun stuffs11:04
LucidVisionsonce a week11:05
zenroxok how do i move files using scp11:05
pybe-lappyzenrox: man scp11:06
LucidVisionsfleece: ive seen andrew morton, Linux Torvalds.Also some unknown players,maby even mark shuttelwotrh,haha,well maby not him,hehe11:06
zenroxpybe-lappy,  that dint help11:06
pybe-lappyzenrox: scp source dest11:06
zenroxhmm11:06
zenroxpybe-lappy, ill try that11:06
pybe-lappyzenrox: scp /home/user/blah.txt user@host:/path/to/put/blah.txt11:07
LucidVisionsfleece: you should come if you are in fact 6 miles from there,thats cool. We love to have knowlegeable people hang.What do you know?11:07
LucidVisionsLinux wise?11:07
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zombicswhat's the package name of glib?11:08
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zombicsther is no package that i can install that will install all i need to compile? :/11:09
krixmhmm11:09
krixi need to debug this glx bug ah :)11:09
jintonici just tried to install the radeon 9200 driver at ati.com (which was an rpm) and it gave me the errors: cannot open packages index using db3 - no such file or directory (2) and cannot open pkgs database in /var/lib/rpm11:09
pybe-lappyzombics: apt-cache search glib maybe?11:09
zenroxthx pybe-lappy  that worked11:10
pybe-lappyzenrox: cool11:10
zenroxit helps if i ant loged in to the ssh at the same time11:10
zombicsfound alout of staff and i cant figure what i need to install :/11:10
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zombicsbut still if there is a pack of all the staff i need to complie it whold be much easyer11:11
housetierzombics there is a meta package called "build-essential" that will install some essential things11:11
housetierbut each and every application has different build dependencies, if you know the package name you can "apt-get build-dep <package>"11:12
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LucidVisionshe quit, well fleece is really missing out11:14
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zombicshousetier, o thx man!!!! that helped alout!11:14
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huttanAnyone know how to fix java with firefox ?11:24
kezzthere's a howto on the wiki i believe11:25
huttani followed it, and it ended up with that my firefox wouldnt start11:25
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kezzany error messages?11:25
huttannope11:26
huttanjust wouldnt start11:26
huttani'll try again...11:26
huttanelse i'll ask11:26
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eEyeHi, there is a way to install xchat-systray on ubuntu?11:28
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pybe-lappygot a dell c400 laptop had no sound and couldnt find the mini pci wifi, added pci=noacpi to the kernel line and got sound and the wifi but some other irq confilct messages on boot. Any ideas?11:34
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pybe-lappyeEye: apt-cache search11:35
eEyeXFce4-systray11:35
eEye;)11:35
bluefoxicydoes anyone have an estimate on how much it takes to install gnome?11:35
bluefoxicyspacewise11:35
ranhello, is there a easy way to change language in gnome? I am using English now but I like to change it to spanish.11:35
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kezzran, you could ask in #ubuntu-es somebody's bound to have done it in there11:38
LucidVisions48mb for the base minimal gnome install11:38
LucidVisions85 with themes and iconsets11:38
LucidVisionsroughly11:39
bluefoxicyLucidVisions:  thanks11:39
LucidVisionsno prob dude11:39
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Gul3hi. i'm new to ubuntu and debian. i'm using synaptic to remove some of the packages that was installed but i get a warning that ubuntu-base will be removed to..? how do i get around this?11:39
zombicswhen i am trying to compile sim i get this error "checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0.2) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!"11:39
LucidVisionsgul3 its ok11:39
Gul3how could that possibly be ok?11:40
LucidVisionsits a fake "dummy package"11:40
siretartGul3: ubuntu-base is just a meta-package, it's ok11:40
LucidVisionsit can be removed with no problems11:40
Gul3ok! thanks..11:40
ranhello, how do I swith to another language?11:41
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housetierzombics what does "apt-cache policy libqt3-dev" report?11:41
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zombicslibqt3-dev:11:41
zombics  Installed: (none)11:41
zombics:O11:41
housetierI thought you had installed it11:42
LucidVisionsran,are you using gnome?11:42
LucidVisionskde has a nice spanish language package11:43
LucidVisionsyou can grab it with synaptic11:43
zombicssame problem :/11:43
zombicslibqt3-dev:   Installed: 3:3.2.3-4ubuntu1    Candidate: 3:3.2.3-4ubuntu1   Version Table:  *** 3:3.2.3-4ubuntu1 011:44
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UnderParwoot it works ;)11:45
ranLucidVisions: Yes, gnome as it comes by default in Ubuntu11:45
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splattahow do i get a copy of hoary ?11:46
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izaacsplatta: hoary isn't released yet11:47
izaacis under heavy development11:47
splattahow would one try a snapshot ?11:47
izaacupgrading from warty11:47
LucidVisionsok,then gnome-intro-es11:47
jdubsplatta: cdimages.ubuntu.com -> daily and 'alpha' cd releases11:47
jdubsplatta: or just upgrade your existing warty install11:47
splattathx11:47
LucidVisionsits the intro spanish gnome package for apt/synaptic11:48
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LucidVisionsand it will require gnome-spanish or whatnot11:48
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ranLucidVisions: there is no such a package with name or description called like that (gnome-intro-es and gnome-spanish)11:50
izaacjdub: that url doesn't exist11:52
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UnderParthis is a very nice distro11:54
UnderPari am impressed11:54
jdubizaac: cdimage.ubuntu.com?11:54
izaacjdub: cause the s11:55
izaaccdimages you told11:55
izaacits alright now11:55
bluefoxicyLucidVisions: http://www.morphix.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?viewmode=flat&topic_id=1755&forum=3  :)11:56
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LucidVisionsahh11:59
LucidVisionsi see11:59
UnderParis there to run ksb as a normal user11:59
UnderParoops11:59
UnderPark3b11:59
LucidVisionsbluefoxy,, gentoo has a tru gaming cd11:59

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