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LucidVisionsgantoo live gamer cd12:00
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LucidVisionsall demos such as ut2k4 etc,,are on the demo live cd12:01
LucidVisionsquake3 etc,no openoffice shizzlew12:01
LucidVisionsright?12:01
LucidVisionsill get ya a link12:01
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bluefoxicyLucidVisions:  but does it do what I described?  :)12:03
bluefoxicywith the persistant and mergable homes, modularity, extensions on the USB stick or wherever the /home is12:03
bluefoxicywill it wash your dog, do the dishes, and impregnate your girlfriend?12:03
HrdwrBoBbluefoxicy: not quite impregnate12:04
HrdwrBoBbut my fiance is pretty happy with it ;)12:04
bluefoxicyHrdwrBoB:  and you're ok with this right?  *cough*  ;P12:04
HrdwrBoBheh12:04
HrdwrBoBwell the worst bit is we're playing World of Warcraft together atm :/12:05
bluefoxicyo_o12:05
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bur[n] erworld of warcraft on ubuntu?12:08
HrdwrBoByep12:09
bur[n] erhow?  cedega?12:09
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HrdwrBoByeah12:10
HrdwrBoBit's a supported game for cedega12:10
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bur[n] era lot slower than under windows12:10
feAR`hello, can someone help me to install muine player on unbutu?12:10
bur[n] er?12:11
bur[n] eraww crap... i'll have to find out later HrdwrBoB, gotta go12:11
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El_Cheany idea why there is noise when scrolling (AC97 card)? Irq problem?12:11
feAR`The following packages have unmet dependencies:12:11
feAR`  muine: Depends: mono-jit (>= 1.0.2) but it is not going to be installed or12:11
feAR`                  mono-mint (>= 1.0.2) but it is not going to be installed12:11
feAR`         Depends: libgconf-cil (>= 1.0) but it is not going to be installed12:11
feAR`         Depends: libglade-cil (>= 1.0) but it is not going to be installed12:11
feAR`         Depends: libglib-cil (>= 1.0) but it is not going to be installed12:11
feAR`         Depends: libgnome-cil (>= 1.0) but it is not going to be installed12:11
feAR`         Depends: libgtk-cil (>= 1.0) but it is not going to be installed12:11
feAR`         Depends: mono-assemblies-base (>= 1.0) but it is not going to be installed12:11
HrdwrBoBfeAR`: please do not paste that here.12:11
feAR`E: Broken packages12:11
feAR`wtf?12:11
HrdwrBoBEl_Che: your AC97 card is probably garbage12:11
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feAR`HrdwrBoB, ok, sorry :}12:12
feAR`can u help me12:12
feAR`;)12:12
El_CheHrdwrBoB: It is garbage, but its a laptop and no noice in debian proper and older configs12:12
HrdwrBoBhrm12:12
HrdwrBoBwell you can check IRQ problems with cat /proc/interrupts12:12
swoonhi12:12
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swoonhaving a problem with ndiswrapper modprobing... dont understand why in previous ubuntu installs ive had no problems (this is on a fresh install) but I get returns like: utills versions might not match or something like that...12:15
VirtualDarKnesshi.. is there a way to have gedit open files in new tabs instead of into a new window when you double click them from nautilus?12:15
swoonsorry if thats vague12:15
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XrMhi, is there someone that can give some help ?12:17
swoonwell can anyone give me a url to a ubuntu repository so I can get the ndiswrapper package then?12:18
HrdwrBoBVirtualDarKness: I don't beleive so12:18
HrdwrBoBVirtualDarKness: actually, hangon12:18
swoonnautilus doesnt have tabs does it?12:18
kezzswoon there's an ndiswrapper howto on the website12:19
HrdwrBoBno, it doesn't12:19
XrMhow can i avoid a pci card to be detected ? (the hotplug hangs at startup)12:20
zenwhentake it out :D12:20
HrdwrBoBXrM: put the module in /etc/hotplug.d/blacklist12:20
jintonic_x says: (EE) No devices detected.... fatal server error: no screens found12:20
XrMthanks HrdwrBoB, but wich module ?12:21
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HrdwrBoBXrM: whichever module that's causing it to hang12:21
XrMit's a TwinHan DVB-S card12:21
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XrMi don't know12:21
VirtualDarKnessHrdwrBoB, thanks.12:21
XrMthere is no debug display, just hang12:22
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mwh_Hi, when I try to open something with Nautilus it stalls for a very long time, then opens, for example the trashcan or the home dir, anyone know what might cause it?12:22
swoonkezz I still need to get ndiswrapper-utils off the repositories, I can only connect via ndiswrapper see... so I need to get it now so I can install it when Im in ubuntu (now Im in mepis livecd)12:22
kezzi c12:23
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kezz2 secs12:23
swoonok12:23
kezzwarty?12:23
swoonyes12:23
VirtualDarKnessanother thing.. some time ago with isdn4linux I had the number of incoming call displayed on dmesg.. I don't need the isdn card for connect to the internet right now but I'd like to be able to see that numbers12:23
swoonVirualDarKness I love tabs on things also, you could use konqueror in gnome if you wanted to12:24
VirtualDarKness..I followed the isdn howto and the module seems to load fine but I get no numbers in dmesg when I try to call myself.. is that the new module handles it in a different way?12:24
kezzhttp://archive.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/pool/main/n/ndiswrapper/12:24
swoonthanks kezz12:24
HrdwrBoBVirtualDarKness: quite possible, You'd have to go to the isdn people for help with that12:24
VirtualDarKnessswoon, I mean that having gedit opening a new tab instead of a new gedit window when you double click to a text file in nautilus12:25
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HrdwrBoBVirtualDarKness: VirtualDarKness right click on a text file12:25
swoonoh sorry12:25
HrdwrBoBclick on 'Open With'12:25
VirtualDarKnessHrdwrBoB, who are isdn ppl? ;)12:25
HrdwrBoBI don't know, I'm in australia, our telco killed ISN by charging too much for it12:26
HrdwrBoBthen click 'Add'12:26
HrdwrBoBthen type gedit --new-document12:26
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mwh_hmm I can open folders on my desktop allright12:28
VirtualDarKnessHrdwrBoB, doesn't seems to work..12:28
mwh_but if I do something like nautilus /home/foo .. nautilus just stalls12:28
Cloudchaseranyone using firefox 1.0?12:29
ZzeCoOlCloudchaser: ?12:30
ZzeCoOlwhat about firefox12:30
Cloudchasermy sis in law just installed it..i have firefox .9.312:30
ZzeCoOl?12:30
Cloudchasershe doesn't have preferences in the Edit section12:30
Cloudchaseri do...so i dont' know where they are in firefox 1.012:30
ZzeCoOl my sis in law????12:31
ZzeCoOllaw?12:31
Cloudchaserto tell her how to allow popups12:31
Cloudchasersister in law12:31
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ZzeCoOlim not a native speaker and i  dont understand what sister in law means but nevermind12:32
ZzeCoOlif it isnt in the edit manu12:32
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ZzeCoOlthen probably it is in the tools menu12:32
Cloudchaserah she's my husband's sister12:32
Panquekashello! could anyone same how to put an USB modem working on ubuntu? because I read some howto's but I don't fine anything that I can do :\12:33
ZzeCoOlim wonderring if anyone using ubuntu manage to install 3.14.612:33
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KING^^^hello all , i have a question , after when I start dcgui from terminal it doesn't stops to show this12:36
KING^^^FreeDiscSpace: No such file or directory12:37
KING^^^FreeDiscSpace: No such file or directory12:37
KING^^^over and over12:37
KING^^^what is wrong ?12:38
VirtualDarKnessHrdwrBoB, it seems that if I add a parameter into the open with dialog, after the program name, gnome doesn't take it12:38
KING^^^no one can help me ?12:42
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UnderParanyone know what i need to fix this error I am trying to run totem  >>>>> tmw_aspect_ratio_square_menu_item12:44
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VirtualDarKnessHrdwrBoB, the gedit --new-document doesn't seems to work at all..12:55
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swimhay folks, a couple of things, how can I test hibernate (save to disk) ?01:01
yccohttp://occy.net/inspiron7500   <--   man, my touchpad not working is quite annoying.01:01
KING^^^i have a question , after when I start dcgui from terminal it doesn't stops to show this01:01
swimfirst... :)01:01
KING^^^FreeDiscSpace: No such file or directory01:01
KING^^^FreeDiscSpace: No such file or directory01:01
KING^^^FreeDiscSpace: No such file or directory01:01
KING^^^over and over01:01
yccoKING^^^: #flood for pasting more than 3 lines01:01
swimycco: neither is mine, presario r3000z, can you hibernate (save to disk) ?01:02
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yccoswim: haven't used that ever.  Hibernate or whatever... I always stay plugged in.01:02
ycco:/01:02
KING^^^so ... anyone cand help me pls ?01:03
yccoswim: this Dell Inspiron 7500 is too big to be a "laptop"01:03
yccoheh01:03
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swimanyone?01:03
_|Imanewbie|_KING^^^: what ups?01:03
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KING^^^after when I start dcgui from terminal it doesn't stops to show this01:03
KING^^^FreeDiscSpace: No such file or directory01:03
yccoogra: know much about touchpad?01:04
KING^^^over and over01:04
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KING^^^at every second01:04
_|Imanewbie|_KING^^^: no idea =(01:04
yccoKING^^^: what is dcgui?01:04
KING^^^dc++01:04
KING^^^u know ?01:05
yccoKING^^^: I'd think that would be something you could check with the developers aoubt.01:05
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KING^^^ok01:05
yccowell01:05
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yccothe developers of that application01:05
_|Imanewbie|_KING^^^: did you create a folder where you would like to store stuff?01:05
KING^^^yes01:05
_|Imanewbie|_and pointed the save target for it?01:05
_|Imanewbie|_did you set it as your storage folder?01:06
KING^^^yes01:06
swimman Im starting to feel that my only resort for linux on a laptop with all hardware working, might be linspire :( (havent tried it and never wanted to)01:07
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ograycco: nope...and i'm on my way to bed....but here is something that helps: http://tigert.gimp.org/log/archives/2005/01/05/why-didnt-anyone-tell-me-this-earlier/01:09
ogra:)01:09
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yccoogra: tx bud.  night01:10
ogranight :)01:10
_|Imanewbie|_one single off-topic question anyone can recommend a game for me? Athlon Xp 2000+ GeForce FX 5200 256 MB ram01:11
yccocool, I can bug Tuomas directly.01:11
jintonic_damn it01:11
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n00bcan anyone01:14
n00btell me how to use linux and irc?01:14
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yccobbiab, /me trys01:16
jintonic_x won't start up, looks like my video card isn't autodetected by ubuntu, radeon 9200... how should i install the driver for it?01:18
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jintonic_i tried using xf86config, generic radeon driver didn't work01:19
sriis the maintainer of the evo package here by chance?01:20
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tritiumsri, doubtful01:20
sriI wonder if they would update teh warty package of evo and apply this patch01:20
srihttp://bugs.ximian.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6961101:20
sritritium: okay..the #evolution is somewhat unresponsive.01:20
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tritiumsri, I know, there are other bugs with evo, such at SMTP authentication01:21
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Mojo_JojoHi, how do I add new fonts that I downloaded :)01:21
tritiumAnd evo-exchange is still buggy as heck too01:21
sriyes, SMTP is also kinda hosed, but it's more stable than what it was in hoary01:21
sriI'm tempted to upgrade to hoary01:21
tritiumI'm using hoary01:22
sribut not until someone fixes mono01:22
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sribut I need mono for tomboy01:22
tritiumI switched to thunderbird01:22
srithunderbird works iwth exchange?01:22
sriwhat about calendering?01:22
tritiumNo, but evo-exchange is useless anyway01:22
jintonic_could i do something like copy the configuration that knoppix comes up with (which works perfectly)01:23
sriyeah, I kinda need it for the exchange portion01:23
sriI love evo in any case01:23
zerokarmaleftjintonic_, have you tried 'sudo apt-get fglrx-driver'?01:23
jintonic_nope01:23
tritiumIt would be nice if the exchange connector worked properly01:23
tritiumIt doesn't seem to like 2003 Exchange servers with forms-based authentication01:23
srinod01:24
sriI've got it working for mail right now01:24
sriand calendaring as well01:24
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tritiumAnd the evolution-exchange-storage is always crashing01:24
srithe problem is with the global contacts01:24
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sriwhich renders the other two somewhat useless for sending mail since you can't access the contacts :/01:24
tritiumWe seem to have rather different problems.01:25
sriyeah01:25
sriI think I have exchange 200301:26
srihow are you doing authentication?01:26
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sriyou have to use login@domain instead of domain/login01:26
tritiumThe server uses NTLM01:27
etitesomfg i love this multiple workstation thing01:27
etiteswho here utilizes that?01:27
srieh?01:27
tritiumSMTP authentication type is NTLM/SPA01:28
sriomfg should be the name of a new kind of gun in quake01:28
sriah01:28
tritiumI don't administer the servers01:28
srithats only SMTP, what about receiving mail?01:28
zerokarmaleftjintonic_, did you get that installed?01:28
tritiumThat's the only part I'm having trouble with.01:28
sristrange, I don't have that option to use NTLM/SPA for sending mail01:29
sriI have it set to exchange01:29
srinot SMTP01:29
tritiumThat's why.01:29
sriyeah, but exchange works fine and thats the right setting01:29
tritiumexchange does not work at all for me01:30
tritiumI have to use SMTP01:30
tritiumand IMAP01:30
sriyeah, you need to make sure your authentication si correct01:30
tritiumIt is.01:30
tritiumIt's the connector.01:30
tritiumIt's buggy01:30
sriwhat version?01:30
tritium2.1.201:30
sriof evo?01:30
sriI have 2.0.201:31
tritiumyes01:31
tritiumI'm on Hoary01:31
sriyeah, thats why I'm not moving to hoary :)01:31
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tritiumI doubt you'll find 2.1.2 any better than 2.0.201:31
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sriunder realmode linux or something01:31
sriit might fix that ldap authenitcation problem I'm having01:31
srisomeone submitted a patch but I hve no idea if it's been applied.01:32
sriif you get a chance, try using the login@domain method (unless you've tried that and it didn't work), things magically started working for me then.01:32
sriotherwise, it was broken for like forever...01:32
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tritiumI've tried every possible method01:33
ObsidianXis it possible to install ubuntu from the livecd? not like a program included but like a console installation01:33
sritritium: okay, if you think it own't work, I'm not gonna press :-)01:33
tritiumsri, Give it a try.  We have very different problems.01:34
kosmonauttiWhat could be the reason that right after Ubuntu 4.10 installation was finished and I was brought to the login/welcome screen, my keyboard wouldn't work? Everything else like mouse etc.. worked just fine. I made a reboot and it worked after that, but why wouldn't it work right after installation?01:34
tritiumI'm just going to wait a few months on evolution.01:34
sritritium: yeah, thats cool.  make sure you check bugs.ximian.com from time to time.01:35
sritritium: I'm assuming you don't have multiple domains where you are right?01:35
etitesso none of you utilize the multiple workspaces?01:35
tritiumsri, We do have several domains.01:35
tritiumetites, What are you talking about01:35
sriwe have teh largest exchange deployment that I know of.01:35
tritium?01:35
tritiumsri, Where are you?01:35
sritritium: okay..01:36
sritritium: Intel01:36
tritiumWhat location?01:36
sriHillsboro, OR01:36
tritiumOh, okay.01:36
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sriand yourself?01:36
tritiumSandia Nat'l Labs01:36
xaerowhats the default root pass?01:36
sriah, cool.01:36
srithere isn't one01:36
sriyou have to create a root account first01:36
jdubxaero: www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo01:37
tritiumThere's an Intel pentium fab here in Albuquerque01:37
sriyeah, big fab site there01:37
tritiumever been?01:37
sriwe designed that chip here :)01:37
srinever been there.01:37
jdubxaero: there is a root account (sri!) but the password is not set - it is intended that sudo be used01:37
sribeen to Arizona though01:37
tritiumcool01:37
Cube-nessintel fabs are everywhere it seems01:37
Cube-nesslike on every corner in Chandler, Az01:38
Cube-nesshehe01:38
etitestritium are you using gnome01:38
tritiumetites, yes01:38
etitessee the 4 boxes in the bottom right01:38
tritiumyes01:38
kosmonauttiIs anyone else, who uses the AMD64 version of ubuntu, having problems with the powernow-k8? For me, at the boot time it gives the following error: "BIOS Error: numpst must be 1". What could fix this? Obviously Powernow! isn't enabled at the moment?01:38
tritiumThe workspace switcher?01:38
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etitesright click a program on the taskbar and select move to workspace 401:38
xaerokosmonautti: amd64 ubuntu is shit01:38
etitesitll disappear to the 4th workspace01:38
tritiumetites, Yeah, I know...01:38
kosmonauttixaero: Why?01:38
etitesxaero01:38
etitesbad shit or good shit01:38
xaerobad shit01:38
etitesthen why idd you ask what im talking abotu01:38
Cube-nessbad as in good, or bad as in bad01:39
Cube-ness?01:39
tritiumyou were talking about multiple workstations01:39
etitesyea01:39
xaeroamd64 ubuntu is crap imo01:39
kosmonauttixaero: what makes it 'crap'?01:39
xaeroi dont like it01:39
xaerou have to run stuff in chroots etc01:39
tritiumetites, just your choice of terminology01:40
srijdub: yeah, I was going to type that sudo passwd thing next01:40
kosmonauttiwell, that's obvious01:40
etitesahhh pfft01:40
etitesworkspace workstations01:40
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kosmonauttii like the ia32libs better ;-)01:40
sriheh.01:40
tritiumetites, have you tried Ctrl-Alt-RightArrow or Ctrl-Alt-LeftArrow to switch workspaces?01:40
etitesok i get get friggin totem to play a dvd01:41
etitesno i havent01:41
etitesi just click01:41
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tritiumi hate mousing around01:41
zerokarmaleftetites, and Ctrl-Alt-UpArrow and Ctrl-Alt-DownArrow if you have multiple rows01:41
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kosmonauttiWhy was my keyboard 'muted' at first boot?!? :P01:41
jdubxaero: you don't have to run anything in chroots... why on earth would you need to do that?01:41
xaerooh nvm01:42
jdubsri: better to explain how to use sudo than how to set the password01:42
xaerothat was debian:P01:42
jintonic_zero: got the error: e: invalid operation fglrx-driver01:42
swimis there anyway to test hibernate (save to disk) for laptops?01:42
kosmonauttisudo <what you want to do as a root>01:42
xaerokosmonautti: whenever i use sudo it wants a password01:42
jdubxaero: your password. read the page i linked above.01:43
kosmonauttixaero: sure it does01:43
izaacwow amazin' ubuntu01:43
izaacxD01:43
zerokarmaleftjintonic_, sorry, it's 'sudo apt-get install fglrx-driver'01:43
tritiumI'm still wishing for ubuntu on my iPaq...(hint, jdub)01:43
tritiumI just installed familiar 0.8 with GPE, and I was rather disappointed.01:44
jdub:-)01:44
kosmonauttiBasically, Debian is heading the right direction with it's AMD64 port if we consider the fact that they are using the dual architecture (or at least trying :P).01:44
tritium:)01:44
etitesok i have totem xine but it wont play dvds01:44
sjoerdGPE is actually quite nice01:44
etitesxine does but totemxine wont01:44
kosmonauttietites: Why not use xine then?01:45
sjoerdbut it's very very niche atm01:45
etitesi want to see how totem plays them01:45
etitesive read the quality is better01:45
kosmonautti:P01:45
zerokarmaleftjintonic_, and then 'echo fglrx | sudo tee -a /etc/modules'01:45
kosmonauttik01:45
tritiumsjoerd, It's not running very well on my H380001:45
sjoerdtritium: got an H3870 here01:46
kosmonauttiubuntu is the most beautiful amd64 distro to date :)01:46
tritiumsjoerd, familiar 0.8?01:46
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sjoerdtritium: yeah01:46
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tritiumjdub, what are you running on yours?01:46
sjoerdtritium: you mostly notice that familiar 0.8 is really new and not that well tested01:47
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tritiumsjoerd, Yes, I'd agree with that.01:47
jintonic_i got an unmet dependency... fglrx-4.3.0-k34n3l-w4d01:48
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sjoerdthere doing stuff quite different now, with someone else running the show..01:48
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jdubtritium: erm, pocket pc 2002 or something, haven't got a serial cable yet.01:48
tritiumjdub, Oh, my!01:48
sjoerdjdub: tsssss :)01:48
diskordi need to setup a printer but i dont think i have a root account in ubuntu; what do i do?01:48
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etitesis it not working because ubuntu seems to think its a cd drive01:49
etitesit says cd1 in the totem01:49
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jintonic_nevermind, fixed the problem... now i have another01:49
sjoerdtritium: have you ever uses familiar 0.7 and earlier ?01:49
diskordspecifically im running some script linux-config to setup my printer and it is asking me for the root account password01:49
tritiumsjoerd, yes, but I had always used Opie01:49
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jintonic_subprocess preinstall script returned error exit status 201:50
diskordcan anyone help me?01:50
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sjoerdtritium: GPE on 0.8 is a lot better then the previous ones01:50
tritiumdiskord, did you click on "Printing"?01:50
jintonic_sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)01:50
mindphasrIs mono stuff still broken in hoary?01:50
zerokarmaleftjintonic_, what kernel version are you running?01:50
tritiumunder System Settings?01:50
jintonic_whatever warty is01:50
tritiumsjoerd, Oh, okay.  I have no prior experience with it to compare with.01:51
sjoerdtritium: Opie is much more developped and running on commercial platforms and stuff.. but it doesn't use an X server or gtk so it sucks :)01:51
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zerokarmaleftjintonic_, cat /proc/version01:51
tritiumsjoerd, That's why I switched ;)01:51
sjoerd:)01:51
jintonic_2.6.8.1-3-38601:51
jdubsjoerd: who's heading up familiar now?01:51
boogieI have a ? about ubunto. I have been using debian 2.6 but have a problem with my nvidia drivers. Everytime I update I have to reinstall my drivers everyreboot any Nvidia users that can tell me if they have the same in ubunto?01:52
ZzeCoOlguys what are the diffs between Xfree and X.org01:52
zerokarmaleftjintonic_, ok 'sudo apt-get install linux-686'01:52
jdubboogie: there are nvidia packages for ubuntu.01:52
diskordokay that worked but i wonder if its using the driver i downloaded it said something about a gdi driver01:52
sjoerdjdub: Koen Kooi apparently01:52
zerokarmaleftjintonic_, and then try installing the ATI driver again: 'sudo apt-get install fglrx-driver'01:52
jintonic_will this take a while? :-/01:52
sjoerdjdub: dutch guy (we rule :)01:52
jdubsjoerd: ok, never heard of him :)01:52
jdubheh01:52
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jdubas long as you don't spit at me, i don't mind if you're dutch :)01:53
tritiumboogie, you shouldn't really be having that problem in debian either, but I haven't heard of that problem in ubuntu at all01:53
zerokarmaleftjintonic_, it might...ar eyou on modem or something?01:53
boogiejdub, so there are no NVidia probs like I described?01:53
jintonic_no01:53
zerokarmaleftjintonic_, otherwise no01:53
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jintonic_completed01:53
jdubboogie: no01:53
boogieyeah it is odd01:53
sjoerdjdub: i only pestered you for having a dell, i did never spit at you :)01:54
jdubheh01:54
tritiumI thought jdub had a toilet seat01:54
jintonic_doesnt look like anything went wrong with it... same error in driver install01:54
jdubtritium: not any more :)01:54
jdubwell, i still do, but not as my main lappy01:55
tritiumOh, that's right...I remember now.01:55
sjoerdtritium: i'm hoping familiar 0.9 is somewhat more polished.. at least they have a release out again :)01:55
jintonic_or do i gotta reboot for the new kernel to take effect?01:55
tritiumsjoerd, I'm looking forward to it also.01:55
jintonic_proc version hasnt changed01:55
Quest-Masterhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=10112 :\01:56
zerokarmaleftthat shouldn't be what's causing the dpkg error, but go ahead and reboot into the new kernel01:56
diskordtritium, thanks i dunno if its using the manufacturer driver but thanks01:57
tritiumQuest-Master, I tried qtparted recently, and it didn't work for me either.01:57
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tritiumdiskord, What did you do to try to set it up?  Did you navigate the menus to "Printing"?01:58
jintonic_pci: cannot allocate resouce region 4 of device 000:000:002.101:58
diskordyes01:58
tritiumthen what?01:58
diskordthere is a driver from my manufacturer01:58
jintonic_i see that every time the system is starting up, does it mean anything bad?01:58
diskordi was using there installer01:59
diskordbut i couldnt add the printer01:59
diskordi can add it from that menu you refered me to01:59
diskordbut i dont think it is using the same driver01:59
tritiumI see.01:59
zerokarmaleftjintonic_, can you paste 'sudo dmesg' at http://www.pastebin.com?02:00
diskordcan i create a root account and then remove it?02:00
jintonic_ugh, i'd have to type it all02:00
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tritiumdiskord, there is a root account, but you're encouraged to use sudo02:00
ZzeCoOlhow can i search i spesific package with apt-get?02:00
diskordtritium, how do i use the root account02:01
ZzeCoOlspecific*02:01
diskordif i cannot use sudo02:01
diskordfor this02:01
ZzeCoOlthen sudo passwd02:01
ZzeCoOland this will open root acc02:01
jintonic_brb02:01
ZzeCoOlhow can i search i spesific package with apt-get??????????????/02:01
tritiumZzeCoOl, you're trying to find a package, or a file in a package?02:01
ZzeCoOlpackege02:02
tritiumapt-cache search <package>02:02
ZzeCoOlok02:02
ZzeCoOlthanx02:02
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tritiumsure02:02
diskordZzeCoOl, you are wrong sir02:02
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tritiumdiskord, sudo passwd should set a root password02:03
sikonis there a online updating area for ubuntu?02:03
diskordtritium, it does not02:03
tritiumthen you can log in to the root account using that passwd02:03
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diskordbrb02:04
randabissudo passwd root will do it02:04
randabisnot just sudo passwd02:04
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zerokarmaleftjintonic_, 'lspci' is it the same as the pci device that's having resource allocation problems?02:05
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zerokarmaleftis your ati card the same as the pci device, i mean02:05
sikondoes everyone here use ubuntu..? or are just support for it?02:06
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diskordweird02:06
jintonic_no, that device seems to be something on my motherboard02:06
diskordthat config program dont like to let root login02:06
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diskordwell thanks everyone for the advice02:07
jintonic_0000:00:02.1 SMBus: SiS: Unknown device 001602:07
sikonneed help diskord?02:07
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jintonic_my video card is at... 0000:01:00.0 and same til last num (1) because its a dual output02:08
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jintonic_said in words that might make more sense: there are two hardware addresses for my video card: 0000:01:00.0 (primary output; vga) and 0000:01:00.1 (secondary output; s-video)02:10
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tritiumdiskord, I should have told you "sudo passwd root"02:10
diskordsikon, nah i giveup thanks02:10
diskordtritium, it worked i could login at the console thats why i left but that linux-config or whatever wouldn't take my root password02:11
zerokarmaleftjintonic_, what does the rest of the apt-get error message say...just above the error code (2) message02:12
zerokarmaleftwhen you try to install fglrx-driver02:12
tritiumdiskord, you might try sticking with the drivers that come with ubuntu02:12
tritiumgood luck02:13
jintonic_the first error is: dpkg-divert: 'diversion of X to Y by fglrxdriver' clashes with 'doversion of X to Y by fglrxdriver4.3.0'02:14
jintonic_sounds like... there's another driver causing a conflict?02:15
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jintonic_i bet its because of the copy of the driver i got from ati.com02:16
zerokarmaleftjintonic_, yes, you'll have to remove it02:16
jintonic_how do you uninstall an rpm?02:16
izaacwith alien02:16
jintonic_rpm -e?02:17
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zerokarmaleftnot sure - i hate rpm - but from the man page that looks right02:18
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zerokarmaleftthe driver shouldn't have any dependencies anyway02:18
zerokarmaleftuse rpm -evv02:19
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jintonic_cannot open packages index using db3 - no such file or directory (2)02:20
jintonic_cannot open /var/lib/rpm/packages.rpm02:20
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jintonic_hrm02:21
jintonic_i think those are the same errors i got when i tried to install the crap02:21
jintonic_yup,02:21
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zerokarmaleftso when you tried to install the rpm, it failed, but still left some partially installed files laying around?02:22
jintonic_how do i uninstall an rpm with alien?02:22
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jintonic_it appears so02:22
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Adrenalfor some reason my /usr/bin/editor link is broken02:23
Adrenalhow do i create a new one so that i can edit visudo02:23
feAR`can someone help me to make usplash in ubuntu?02:24
jintonic_i'm not seeing a switch that uninstalls anything with alien02:24
feAR`i use hoarty02:24
zerokarmaleftyou're supposed to use alien to convert an rpm to a deb package and then use dpkg to install/remove the package02:24
feAR`please ;(02:24
feAR`:~(02:24
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jintonic_hrm02:24
jintonic_then why is rpm even there? :P02:24
jintonic_to screw over poor fools like me :)02:25
zerokarmaleftdoes rpm have any query options to list what gets installed?02:25
bob2compatibility02:25
bob2it will warn very loudly when you try to use it02:25
Adrenalanyone, how do i repair my /usr/bin/editor link?02:25
bob2how did i tbecome broken?02:25
Adrenali don't know02:25
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Adrenali think possibly install02:26
Adrenalcos just one i typed in visudo02:26
Quest-MasterCan I safely install Python 2.4 alongside my Python 2.3 install without 2.3 being hurt at all?02:26
Adrenali got visudo: no editor found (editor path = /usr/bin/editor)02:26
bob2Quest-Master: 2.4 is the default on hoary now, aiui02:26
Quest-MasterI'm on Warty02:27
bob2Adrenal: ln -s /etc/alternatives/editor /usr/bin/editor02:27
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bob2Quest-Master: you can install python2.4 to /usr/local/ then, safely, yes02:27
Adrenalthe file exists02:27
Quest-Master:)02:27
Adrenalits just when i look in its properties02:27
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Adrenalit says link (broken)02:27
feAR`someone..help me02:28
feAR`x] 02:28
Adrenalfear, whats wrong?02:28
feAR`Adrenal, i want to make usplash on my ubuntu hoary02:29
feAR`;(02:29
feAR`but i dont know how02:29
Adrenalsorry man, we're in the same boot there02:29
bob2feAR`: there isn't anything in the wiki about that?02:29
atom__is usplash even functional yet?02:29
feAR`i installed it on my laptop.02:29
bob2Adrenal: ls -ld /usr/bin/editor02:29
Cranehello all!!!!!02:29
feAR`bob2, on ;} i cant find02:29
feAR`atariboy, no02:29
Adrenallrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root           24 2004-12-22 03:02 /usr/bin/editor -> /etc/alternatives/editor02:29
Adrenalwhich means?02:29
bob2Adrenal: ls -ld /etc/alternatives/editor02:29
bob2feAR`: how did you get it to work on your laptop then?02:30
feAR`i mean, i want bootpslash02:30
feAR`like in livecd.02:30
feAR`one guy from this channel, said, that there is usplash, not bootsplash x] 02:30
Adrenal/usr/bin/vim02:30
feAR`the same things with different names x] 02:30
Adrenalwhich is what /usr/bin/editor is a link to02:30
bob2Adrenal: and when you run '/usr/bin/editor', what does bash say?02:31
jdubfeAR`: definitely not the same things; bootsplash is a terrible kernel hack.02:31
bob2feAR`: no, they're different things02:31
feAR`apt-cache search usplash, doesn`t find anything02:31
jdubfeAR`: it's not in yet02:31
AdrenalNo such file or directory02:31
Adrenalodd, it came up a second ago02:31
esherhmm, my mouse-clicks dont work correctly all at once on x, only every 3-4 try works... on vncserver all works fine ?! any idea ?02:31
feAR`ok, than sorry :) it`s possible to run it?02:31
feAR`where to get..02:31
esherand, i dont touch the X11-Config or so02:32
jdubfeAR`: it's not ready for testing yet02:32
atom__http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/USplash/view?searchterm=usplash02:33
jintonic_hrm02:33
feAR`jdub, ;( so ;( now i must to wait unstable version of usplash ?02:33
feAR`;)02:33
atom__feAR`: getting bootsplash or fbsplash is theoretically possible, but its going to be a lot of hacking02:33
feAR`atom__, i know :)02:33
feAR`i`m gentoo user ;-))02:33
jdubfeAR`: when it's ready, it'll be in hoary02:34
Adrenalbob2: I'm guessing i should just make a new link named editor and replace the broken one with it. How would i go about creating a link to /urs/bin/vim.org?02:34
feAR`it`s easy there..02:34
feAR`jdub, ok, clear02:34
feAR`thanks02:34
atom__feAR`: as am i, but the runlevels arent configured for splash in ubuntu like they are in gentoo02:34
feAR`atom__, ok then..02:34
feAR`i`m waiting then02:34
ObsidianXis it possible to install ubuntu from the livecd? not like a program included but like a console installation02:34
atom__feAR`:  you can try http://www.desktop-linux.net/bootsplash.htm it may work02:35
jintonic_hrm... should i just reinstall ubuntu?02:35
HrdwrBoBObsidianX: no02:38
atom__jintonic_: for what reason?02:38
Adrenaldone it02:38
feAR`tanks atom__02:38
Adrenalfixed it myself02:38
bob2Adrenal: I don't think that's the problem02:38
jintonic_a driver conflict with my video card02:38
Adrenaloh it was02:38
Adrenalthanks\02:38
Adrenallater02:38
feAR`ok, good night02:38
dissidentcitizenhey guys, I'm having a problem with ubuntu recognising that I'm connected to a power source. It's been fine for the most part just the last few times I've logged in it says its running on battery power, any ideas?02:38
ObsidianXHrdwrBoB, and why is that?02:38
jdubObsidianX: because... there's nothing there to do that.02:39
bob2dissidentcitizen: are you using sleep?02:39
ObsidianXjdub, i can't download anything?02:39
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ObsidianXthatll let me install it02:40
jintonic_this is kinda silly... i just mounted my ipod to a dir but i cant seem to access it :P02:40
jdubObsidianX: the installer cd...02:40
ObsidianXthe installer cd is messed up02:40
ObsidianXit doesnt want to work02:40
calcubuntu hoary amd64 2.6.9 just fell over when i nmap scanned the box, whee :\02:40
jintonic_permission denied...  so i try: sudo cd ipod... command not found02:40
dissidentcitizenno, this is after I installed my winmodem and restarted and it went to battery02:40
calc2.6.10 seems to work ok, i don't know if i want to attempt to reproduce the crash on 2.6.9 though ;)02:41
dissidentcitizenturned the power off, same problem, tried a different socket, same problem. Booted into windows and it recognises it :(02:44
jintonic_how do i change the file permissions for a folder so that anyone can access it?02:44
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jintonic_chmod <folder> ....02:44
ObsidianXare there any pre-release hoary cd's02:44
bob2ObsidianX: yes02:44
jdubObsidianX: cdimage.ubuntu.com02:44
ObsidianXsweet, thanks02:44
jintonic_anybody?02:44
dissidentcitizenso nobody else has had this problem? I think its still drawing power from the socket though, because the battery has been at 97% for about 10 minutes now its just weird its not recognising that its running off the mains02:44
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bob2jintonic_: you can't use sudo with cd02:45
bob2jintonic_: cd isn't a command, it's bulit-in to your shell.  maybe you want 'sudo -s'?02:45
atom__dissidentcitizen: i'm not too familiar with linux on the laptop, but does acpi play into the battery equation? have you checked that?02:45
jintonic_ok, so how do i get in there?02:45
jintonic_hrm.,.. sudo -s seems like su02:45
bob2yes02:46
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dissidentcitizenI'm not sure either, to be honest I'm a total linux nobb, just migrated a week ago.....any ideas what to check?02:46
jintonic_hrm... but can i just change the file permissions so i dont have to su every time i wanna access my ipod?02:46
bob2dissidentcitizen: what does " cat /proc/acpi/ac_adapter/AC/state" print out?02:47
bob2jintonic_: change the mount options to include the option 'umask=002'02:47
SNaK3hi, anyone running ubuntu with an promise pdc20276 ata-raid controller?02:48
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dissidentcitizenbob_2: sorry I'm having trouble entering in the command, it says no such file or directory, is this a terminal command?02:48
atom__dissidentcitizen: yes02:49
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mjg59bob2: the ac adapter is not necessarily called AC02:49
jintonic_sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda2 /mnt/ipod umask=002 seems to be somwhow invalid02:49
mjg59diskord: Try cat /proc/acpi/ac_adapter/*/state02:49
mjg59Uh, not diskord.02:49
mjg59dissidentcitizen: Try cat /proc/acpi/ac_adapter/*/state02:50
bob2mjg59: oh man02:50
mjg59bob2: See keybuk's laptop02:50
dissidentcitizensays off-line02:50
dissidentcitizenthanks for the help btw mjg59 :)02:50
bob2mjg59: of course, it'd have to be his02:50
jintonic_adding umask=002 causes an error02:51
dissidentcitizenhmmm, well i suppose this is just a minor niggle not really important, the battery metre is actually going up so its cearly drawing power I'm just wondering why it still says its running on batteries02:51
bob2jintonic_: you need to add it to the right place...02:51
bob2jintonic_: how are you mounting it?02:52
mjg59dissidentcitizen: Ok, on some machines ACPI occasionally fails to notice that you've plugged in the PSU02:52
jintonic_sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda2 /mnt/ipod umask=002 seems to be somwhow invalid02:52
bob2yes02:52
jintonic_that command without umask=002 works02:53
bob2the man page explains how you want to use 'sudo mount -t vfat -o umask=002 /dev/sda2 /mnt/ipod'02:53
dissidentcitizenmjg59: is that something we can fix?02:53
jintonic_there we go, thank you :)02:53
mjg59dissidentcitizen: A later kernel may improve that, but you'll probably need to wait until Hoary is released for that02:54
dissidentcitizenok, I'm planning on reinstalling anyway so maybe that will sort it out. Its just random because it recognised it fine over the last week and just now it dropped out....strange02:55
dissidentcitizenanyway thanks for all the help guys, and not just today. I've had quite a few teething problems this past week but you guys in the channel here have been great, so thanks!02:56
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occynomasteryoda: you here?02:56
occynomasteryoda: you see occy.net/inspiron7500  ?02:56
jintonic_heh...  that was funky.... computer just said cpu had reached critical temperature at 60*C and auto-shutdown02:56
occynomasteryoda: good news: I have X on my 7500 working @1400x1050 (on Ubuntu)02:57
occybad news, several other things aren't working.02:57
Se7hneed some help02:57
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Se7hlibpng12-dev:02:57
Se7h  Depends: libpng12-0 but 1.2.8rel-1 is to be installed02:57
Se7hbut libpng12.-0 is already installed02:57
Se7h:|02:57
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occytouchpad, odd network lag, and battery on gnome panel shows 0% and it's "using" battery though I have power connected.02:58
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DanielCHey. How do I make Ubuntu recognize newly created swap space?02:58
jintonic_it must think its reading the cpu temp when its reading something else cuz the cpu is cool and always idles at about 49*C02:58
jintonic_and it was definately idle02:59
pschulz01Does Ubunto have 'ddd'? The default 'apt-get install ddd' doesn;t work.02:59
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occyno clue why I don't have a /proc/apm02:59
calcpschulz01: its in universe03:00
pschulz01calc: cheers.03:00
zombicswhen i try to compile sim  i get this error: checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0.2) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!03:01
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EfaistOsdoes someone use squirrelmail ? I dunno how to add or log in ...03:02
EfaistOss/add/add user/03:02
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EfaistOsis there something special to configure ?03:02
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DanielCDoes anyone know how to make Ubuntu recognize newly created swap space?03:13
jdubDanielC: add it to /etc/fstab03:15
DanielCjdub: ok. Do you know what the line is?03:15
DanielCI coulnd't find it on the mount man page.03:15
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edgarinhola amigos de ubunto03:17
edgarinhay alguien aqui?03:18
HrdwrBoBhola!03:18
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edgarinhola03:18
edgarinmiren03:18
HrdwrBoBonly speak english sorry03:18
edgarintengo un proble03:18
edgarinok03:18
edgarinhello HrdwrBob03:18
edgarinI no have sound03:18
edgarinin my computer03:18
edgarinno play .wav files03:18
edgarinno sound ubuntu sounds03:19
Gul3hey, where can i download the linux edition of planeshift? they don't have it on the website!03:19
edgarinperdon03:19
edgarinno hablan espao?03:19
Agrajagedgarin: try #ubuntu-es03:19
edgarinok excusem03:19
edgarinAgrajag I no have sound03:20
edgarinbut when install Ubuntu in my computer03:20
ObsidianXedgarin, what language were you speaking?03:20
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edgarinthe Ubuntu have sound03:20
edgarinESPAOL03:20
AgrajagObsidianX: that was spanish03:20
ObsidianXAgrajag, it wasn't quite...03:20
AgrajagObsidianX: what?03:21
ObsidianXit might be a variation03:21
edgarinok03:21
ObsidianXlike portuguese or something03:21
Agrajagcastellano? Whatever.03:21
Agrajaguh03:21
edgarinyes03:21
edgarincastellando03:21
Agrajagportuguese isn't a cariation of spanish03:21
edgarincastellano03:21
edgarinhablo yo03:21
Agrajager, variation03:21
ObsidianXwell, whatever :P03:21
Gul3somebody know anything about Planeshift? a free mmorpg. can't find it!03:21
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AgrajagSo.. you do have sound, or you don't?03:22
edgarinyes03:23
edgarinI don't03:23
AgrajagHave you checked the ubuntu wiki? There's a lot of information there on troubleshooting03:24
Agrajaghttp://wiki.ubuntulinux.org03:25
jintonic_when i boot ubuntu i get an error from trying to modprobe pciehp03:26
jintonic_and another one... pcichp or something03:26
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ZzeCoOljintonic_: about the hotplug....03:26
Agrajagyeah, I get that too, on both machines. I'm fairly sure it doesn't mean anything03:26
ZzeCoOli get the same error03:26
jintonic_okeydokey03:27
jintonic_hmm, should i download the stuff that setup asks for my to download?03:28
Agrajagyes03:28
Agrajagthose are security fixes03:28
jintonic_okeydokey03:29
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|i|^dEVi|can someone please help me03:30
EfaistOsso nobody use squirrelmail ?03:30
|i|^dEVi|hellooo03:30
jintonic_devi: dunno, ask away03:30
|i|^dEVi|anybody03:30
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|i|^dEVi|i installed ubuntu..03:31
|i|^dEVi|and i cant seem to get online with it..03:31
|i|^dEVi|how do i make it detect my ext modem?03:31
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jintonic_hrm... external modem... most of those are software modems... good luck03:31
|i|^dEVi|one more thing..03:32
Agrajagjintonic_: what?03:32
nwp_jintonic_: most *internal* modems are software, not *external*03:32
AgrajagI have NEVER heard of an external softmodem03:32
nwp_new ones these days, anyway03:32
|i|^dEVi|i tried reformating my hd and i cant seem to setup xp nemore..03:32
|i|^dEVi|i never said anything abt external internal modem03:32
Poprocksdoes anyone know what would cause Nautilus not to be able to browse smb shares correctly?  I'm running hoary and have gone through both an smbclient and gnome-vfs update recently and the problem still persists03:33
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|i|^dEVi|i said i hav an external modem but i dunno how to setup dial up access in ubuntu..03:33
ions2I get no sound from audio CDs yet I see it being played03:33
ions2mp3s work fine03:33
zerokarmaleftjintonic_, add pciehp and shpchp to /etc/hotplug/blacklist to suppress those boot error messages03:33
|i|^dEVi|i think ubuntu really messed up my system..03:34
nwp_|i|^dEVi|: jintonic_ was just getting confused about the modem.03:34
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|i|^dEVi|Veryfying DMI Pool Data.... and then i get a msg "Error loading operating system"03:34
jintonic_heh, and how about the hardware that is giving an error... 0000:00:002.1 i think it is... its some thing for my motherboard03:35
|i|^dEVi|like can anybody help me out with this one..03:35
nwp_|i|^dEVi|: well, if it's reformatted, then there's nothing there for it to load03:35
nwp_|i|^dEVi|: you'd need to reinstall a system before you can boot from it03:35
nwp_|i|^dEVi|: using a CD or other install media03:35
|i|^dEVi|but i tried installing xp.. i03:35
nwp_so, boot from the XP cd?03:36
|i|^dEVi|it formats, copies and everything.. but then wen it reboots it says something like verying dmi and then i cant get it to open..03:36
occynomasteryoda: boo03:36
|i|^dEVi|the only OS i can install is ubuntu03:36
|i|^dEVi|and i cant seem to get ubuntu to detect my ext modem03:37
jintonic_veryifying dmi... sounds like node-locking03:37
|i|^dEVi|wat's node locking? please tel me03:37
Agrajagwhat03:37
jintonic_are you using a system recovery disk?03:37
|i|^dEVi|nope...03:37
Agrajagjintonic_: every computer I've used prints out that message just before trying to load the OS03:37
Agrajagit sounds like a broken bootloader03:38
|i|^dEVi|wat's a broken boot loader?03:38
|i|^dEVi|darn....03:38
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nwp_|i|^dEVi|: the bootloader is the very first tiny little program that your computer loads from the hard disk03:38
tintinhello all03:38
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occy|i|^dEVi|: sometimes known as a shoehorn.03:38
occysorry, I couldn't resist.03:38
nwp_which then tries to load the rest of the system03:38
|i|^dEVi|oh damn... dat must be it03:38
|i|^dEVi|coz i think ubuntu didnt leave out anything wen i reformatted d hd..03:39
|i|^dEVi|as in.. it totally erased everything in my hd..03:39
nwp_Well, if you reinstall XP then XP should install a bootloader03:39
tintinif i want some packages that are only in debian can i just update the apt-get config files and get if from the debian servers ?03:39
jintonic_ive never seen that :-/ i remember having issues with using my sys recovery disks on my laptop because the dmi string wasn't right because the recovery was nodelocked to a specific dmi string identifying my laptop model03:39
ions2any ideas why an audio CD would fail to play?  Volumes are all unmuted and mp3s work03:39
ions2CD PLayer & xmms both fail03:39
ions2both seem to be playing the CD yet there's no sound03:39
|i|^dEVi|well i tried installing xp.. like 14 times.. but then yeah... same thing happens...03:39
zombicswhen i try to compile sim  i get this error: checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0.2) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!03:40
Poprocksions2, hmm, do you have a cable connected from your cd-rom to your sound card?  I don't but it still works for me.. still it could be part of the problem03:40
tintinyou dont have to reinstall xp you can always boot form the bootable xp cd and restore the bootsector from the text mode03:40
nwp_if you run the XP installer and you can't boot XP after doing so, it's an XP problem. Not to put too fine a point on it.03:40
zerokarmaleftions, do you an analog cable connected from the back of your cdrom to the sound card?03:40
zerokarmaleftcdplayer and xmms don't play CDs digitally03:40
zerokarmaleftor not that i'm aware of03:40
Poprockszerokarmaleft, it does for me.. but maybe only in hoary?03:41
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ions2yeah I'm gonna crawl under here and look - it worked in XP so I can't imagine why it wouldn't now03:41
|i|^dEVi|it starts out by necessary system files.. then reformating then it reboots then the DMI prob agen..03:41
jintonic_i've got a fresh install of ubuntu plus the security updates.. at startup x doesnt work, i say yes to the request for more info... it says "module loader present"03:41
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Poprocksions2, xp does it digitally, so does my Ubuntu, but maybe it's only in Hoary where it's been configured to do so03:41
jintonic_i say yes to the request for detailed x server output, same thing... "module loader present"03:42
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zerokarmaleftjintonic_, it's probably a video driver issue03:43
occyI fought the touchpad and the touchpad won.... I fought the touchpad and the... touchpad won.03:43
|i|^dEVi|does ubuntu automatically detect ext modems??03:43
tintinjintonic_: more info is what you need ... are there any EE tags ?03:43
Poprocks|i|^dEVi|, what brand of modem is it and is it usb or serial03:43
jintonic_when i do startx, i see (EE) no devices detected03:44
Poprocks|i|^dEVi|, but I haven't used dialup in several years so I don't think I'd really be able to help much.. but those kinds of details would be helpful03:44
|i|^dEVi|serial.. dlink...03:44
tintinjintonic_: did you do a xorgsetup ?03:44
tintinjintonic_: try that03:44
jintonic_command not found03:44
zerokarmaleftjintonic_, xf86config03:44
|i|^dEVi|wel cable/dsl is only for the rich people here in the philippines03:44
tintin|i|^dEVi|: it should be detected03:45
jintonic_i reinstalled ubuntu, last time i did xf86config using the generic radeon driver it didnt work03:45
tintinor can be configured03:45
tintinjintonic_: whats your video card ?03:45
|i|^dEVi|tintin.. how? =)03:45
zerokarmaleftjintonic_, 'less /var/log/Xfree86.0.log'03:45
jintonic_radeon 920003:45
Poprocks|i|^dEVi|, well its device node is probably /dev/ttyS003:45
tintin|i|^dEVi|: wvdialconfig ? not sure if its in ubuntu03:46
|i|^dEVi|yes it is..03:46
occyman, nvidia under Ubuntu couldn't be easier.03:46
tintinthen use that03:46
jintonic_no such file or dir03:46
|i|^dEVi|ahuh.. thanks.. will try it now..03:46
zerokarmalefthmm03:46
ions2the audio connector is not attached from the CD drive to the board - although it did work in Windows.  At least now I have an idea what the prob is03:47
zerokarmalefti wonder why the generic driver doesn't work03:47
jintonic_well i don't have an nvidia card, i have an ati card... so that's what i'm working with03:47
Locutus1976Hi everyone, I am unable to install my epson stylus cx5200. It is not listed in the list of printers. Any ideas? this was working with FC3.03:47
tintinjintonic_: try the generic vesa stuff lets see if everything else works03:47
tintinLocutus1976: linuxprinting.org03:48
jintonic_how much memory should i specify? i have 128MB03:48
jintonic_VRAM, i mean03:48
tintinjintonic_: just dont worry give an enter03:49
Locutus1976tintin: Thanks, will take a look.03:49
tintinwe can optimize it later03:49
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jintonic_invalid amount of video memory :)03:49
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jintonic_xf86config again..03:49
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tintinjintonic_: ok give it as 12803:50
junk430hi guys03:50
tintinhello junk43003:50
junk430ubuntu nub here03:50
jintonic_its ok, i have done this enough times now that i complete config in 20secs :P03:50
tintinjintonic_: cool03:50
tintinwhat did you give for your mouse ?03:50
junk430I have it installed on a test box.. I'm having problems with slow DNS resolution, I all ready googled for the problem and dislabled ipv6 and it's still slow ideas03:50
jintonic_umm, 1 (auto)03:51
junk430I have no slow dns problems on my XP and osX boxes03:51
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jintonic_ok, config done with vesa... same error03:52
tintinok cd /var/log/03:52
tintinls03:52
tintinwhats in there ? do you see some log related to xserver in there among other things ?03:53
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junk430is this like a common thing or a bug with Ubuntu03:54
jintonic_XFree86.0.log03:54
jintonic_aha, the F capitalisation03:54
tintinmore XF*03:54
jintonic_ya want the first error i see?03:55
tintinyes03:55
jintonic_some stuff about fonts that don't exist... shouldn't by major03:56
occyheh, is there some smart way I can do something like:   apt-cache search gtk |grep engine `apt-get install $foo`  ?03:56
occyI'm not too smart on how to do that stuff.03:56
tintinjintonic_: skip that get onto the next one03:57
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jintonic_it skipped a few things in libGLcore03:57
jintonic_libGLcore.a03:57
tintinany thing with an EE the rest you can ignore as garbage03:57
jintonic_what does EE mean? some kinda error precedence?03:58
jintonic_the first EE i see is no devices detected... at the end03:58
tintinthe logs showe errors as EE warnings as WW03:59
tintinok fine03:59
jintonic_II = information?03:59
tintinyes03:59
tintinmore /etc/X11/xorg.conf03:59
jintonic_no such file, its xf8604:00
tintinmove to the section which says device whats in there ?04:00
tintinjintonic_: ok xf86 config said writing to xyz file04:00
tintinopen that file up04:00
Locutus1976Am unable ti install my epson cx52000. reading in google that I need to install a cupsys-driver-gimprint package from the universe repository. How do I do that?04:01
tintinapt-get install cups04:01
jintonic_hrm... so automatic mouse detection scans through all the drivers it knows of?04:02
Locutus1976tintin: this is what I get dstahan@inspiron ~ $ sudo apt-get install cups04:02
Locutus1976Reading Package Lists... Done04:02
Locutus1976Building Dependency Tree... Done04:02
Locutus1976E: Couldn't find package cups04:02
jintonic_cuz i've got definitions for all kinds of mice04:02
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tintinjintonic_: stop intepreting stuff i dont know whats in there so it will be difficult04:03
jintonic_ok, in the graphics device section04:03
tintinLocutus1976: apt-get install cups*04:03
jintonic_driver "vga"04:04
tintinjintonic_: good thats what it should be04:04
tintinvideoram ?04:04
tintindoes it have a # in front ?04:04
jintonic_131072, but yeah, its commented out04:04
Locutus1976tintin: it gave me loads of packages. Should I install all of them?04:04
tintingood04:04
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tintinLocutus1976: the easy answer would be yes04:05
Locutus1976fair enough :)04:05
junk430is there any other fix for slow DNS other than disabling ipv6?04:06
tintinjintonic_: input device section04:06
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jintonic_yup04:06
tintinjintonic_: what does it say in there ?04:06
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jintonic_confusing, i think the driver for keyboard is "Keyboard"04:07
Locutus1976tintin: I install all the packages. I don't see my printer listed yet. Do I have to restart my system?04:07
tintinLocutus1976: no you dont  have to04:07
jintonic_and the mouse driver is either "mouse" or one of about other devices listed04:08
jintonic_8 other*04:08
tintinLocutus1976: you need to get cups configured www.linuxprinting.org should help you with that04:08
jintonic_oh, duh, the others are commented out, nevermind04:08
tintinjintonic_: all of those are not commented out ?04:08
Guardiannjintonic what kind of printer04:09
tintinjintonic_: and protocol ?04:09
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jintonic_no printer04:09
Locutus1976tintin: linuxprinting.org tells me to install the gimp-print driver which I just did from the cmd line.04:09
jintonic_protocol is "Auto", device is "/dev/mouse"04:10
tintindo you have a ps/2 mouse ?04:10
jintonic_its a usb mouse connected as ps/2 via a converter04:11
tintinok fine it seems like its in order04:11
jintonic_so its probly the video card driver?04:11
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tintinjintonic_: radeon 9200  must have a driver in there somewhere ...04:12
jintonic_only generic, no specific04:13
tintinjintonic_: replace vesa with radeon04:14
neighborleeanyone know the state of java in ubuntu or if not where it can be followed ?04:14
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jintonic_using vim, i forget what to press in order to do wq...04:16
Agrajagescape04:16
Agrajagthen colon04:17
tintindont ask me about vim :)04:17
jintonic_its a horrible text editor but its installed on pretty much every nix04:17
tintini use emacs or any microemacs04:18
tintinjed is on most systems too04:18
jintonic_in emacs, how do you get into the menu on the top?04:19
tintinF10 but i dont use the menus04:19
gen.04:19
tintinthey are not nessary (menus in emacs is funny so i removed it04:20
jintonic_ahhh! stuck in menu hell!!! `ctrl+z!04:20
tintinC-x k will do04:20
tintinno need to do C-z04:20
tintinfg 104:20
tintinyou just put it to sleep it can wake up :)04:21
jintonic_ctrl+x+k?04:21
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tintinCtrl+x04:21
tintinthen K04:21
tintinoops small k04:21
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crazycny 1 can tel me how to install .deb package ?04:22
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crazycapt-get install package.deb dont seem to work04:22
jintonic_eh? that just kills the buffer04:22
tintincrazyc: tried apt-get install mypackagename ?04:22
tintinjintonic_: yes04:22
gwildordpkg -i <packagename>.deb crazyc04:22
tintinjintonic_: if you want to get out C-x C-c04:22
crazycgonna try04:22
gwildorkk04:22
jintonic_i use ctrl+z to just get out of abstract programs i can't figure out how the hell to get out of correctly04:22
tintinjintonic_: C-x C-c is to get out04:23
jintonic_that's pretty abstract04:23
crazycgwildor, i have some dependency to install, any way of takingcare auto dependency ?04:23
tintinjintonic_: yes and very flexible at that ...04:23
jintonic_thanks tho :) i'll use that now04:23
Poprockswhat's the equivalent of "cat /proc/pci" with ubuntu & sysfs?04:24
tintinjintonic_: emacs is like an operating system :)04:24
crazyctintin, dat didnt wortk04:24
jintonic_yeah04:24
tintincrazyc: <gwildor> dpkg -i <packagename>.deb crazyc04:24
Agrajagan OS with a crappy text editor04:24
junk430hey guys.. really.. am I the only one that's having problems with slow DNS resolution04:24
tintinlol04:24
jintonic_hahaha04:25
tintinAgrajag: i wont bite04:25
tintinI'm using ERC Version 4.0 $Revision: 1.719 $ with GNU Emacs 21.3.50.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, Xaw3d scroll bars, multi-tty, built 2004-12-28)!04:25
Agrajag:(04:25
crazyctintin, tried dat as well have some unresolved dependencies04:25
jintonic_yeah, i prefer text editors to just be text editors, no fancy bullshit to make it impossible to use without spending 5min a day in the manual04:25
tintincrazyc: you need to goto the webpage of the package and find out what else it requires04:25
crazychmm04:26
tintinjintonic_: oh its no that bad it just increases your productivity :)04:26
jintonic_oh yeah! pico!04:26
tintini can chat and program all at once04:26
jintonic_pico is nice04:26
jintonic_naw, decreases productivity horridly since i never use the extensions so they're just obstacles04:27
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tintinjintonic_: tought learning curve and better results in the end ...04:27
HrdwrBoBpico?04:27
jintonic_anyways, this all started with my trying to edit one line of text :P04:27
tintinbut yes intially you lose a lot of time04:27
tintinemacs04:27
HrdwrBoBthe pain of dealing with the massive limitations of pico04:28
HrdwrBoBcost more time than learning any other text editor04:28
HrdwrBoBI mean hell.. use gedit04:28
tintinHrdwrBoB: he would but he has no x :)04:28
jintonic_not an option, trying to get x working04:28
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tintinjintonic_: use whatever you want04:29
tintinand get the changes done04:29
ari_hi i need helpplese04:29
ari_:(04:29
tintinAgrajag: are you in the IAF ?04:29
AgrajagThe what?04:30
tintinoh then you are not never mind :)04:30
jintonic_there we go, pico saves the day04:30
ari_someone who can help me04:30
ari_plese04:30
jintonic_change done, same error04:30
trey3ari_: usually more likely to get help if you ask a question related to your problem  :/04:31
tintinjintonic_: post the whole files somewhere04:31
jintonic_via command line?04:31
tintinyeah why not or dcc it to me04:31
jintonic_hrm... thinking of how that could be done...04:31
tintinhmmz that may not work i am behind a firewall ..04:31
tintinjintonic_: elinks04:32
ari_TREY:OK, IS ABOUT THE SYNAPTIC, IN THE REPOSITORY...04:32
jintonic_the text based browser?04:32
jintonic_doesnt seem to be installed04:32
tintinjintonic_: your best bet is dcc04:32
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tintintry it04:32
ari_QHEN I CHOSE THE cdrom:[Ubuntu 4.10 _Warty Wartho OPTION AND THEN REFRESH THE INFORMATION04:32
jintonic_i'm using another computer to talk to you04:33
tintinhmmz thats so difficult to deal with ...04:33
ari_APPERS THAT THE REFRECH FAILS04:33
CodvxHey, I ordered my ubuntu cds about 3 months ago, Any reason i didnt get them yet?04:33
tintinCodvx: they take their own sweet time04:33
ctdari_: Quit it with the caps, please. :)04:33
jintonic_codvx: you get what you pay for?04:33
tintinCodvx: besides i got 100 of them :) so maybe they ran out04:34
jintonic_hrm04:34
Codvxjintonic_:They should be honoured to send them to me, im great =P04:34
jintonic_hehe04:34
tintinCodvx: where are you located ?04:35
jintonic_hrm, dpkg install elinks?04:35
Codvxtintin: THunder bay, ontario canada04:35
tintinjintonic_: try a text based irc messenger04:35
tintinits a lot easier than text based browser04:35
izaactry irsii04:36
izaacit comes bye default in ubuntu04:36
izaacby *04:36
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tintinCodvx: thats funny they shipped my cds half way around the world and it arrived sooner :)04:36
Codvxlol04:37
jintonic_hrm... i guess i could find a copy of bitchx on this computer, wget it on the other, and install that way :-/04:37
tintinCodvx: maybe you should have been greedy and asked for 100 like i did04:37
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DanielCHi foks. Does anyone know the fstab incantation to make swap space work?04:38
Codvxlol, I just got one 64bit, one powerpc, and 8 normal04:38
tintinBigger packages first (maybe this guy will buy 100 licenses for his company )04:38
ari_some one who can help me, is about the synaptic, i  have problesms in the repository when i choosec drom:[Ubuntu.. option, and when its dowloading the list of programs appers a legend  that said that couldn't be donloaded all the index of the repositories , ples help :(04:38
Codvxari_: reinstal;l windows04:38
Codvxlol, jk04:38
CodvxThat used to be me solutiopn to everything04:39
tintinari_: tried checksum on the cd ?04:39
jintonic_grr.... why does everything have to be case sensitive :P04:39
tintincos u get more commands that way !04:39
tintinand caramel notation04:39
tintinand other nice goodies :)04:39
CodvxUbuntu, ubuntu/ Hey, your right!04:39
jintonic_heh, yeah04:40
ari_tintin: i introduce the cd of installation to the cd- room?04:40
CodvxYou have a special room for cds? =P04:40
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tintinari_: just a sec04:40
ari_tintin: ok04:41
tmccraryHas anyone else had sound problems with Hoary? Currently, I have no sound. When I boot it says something about i810 disabled in configuration.04:41
tintinari_: you are triyng to install Ubuntu ... you boot off it04:41
tintinyou have installed the base system ?04:41
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jintonycktada!04:42
ari_tintin: i have already install it, evrything worked well, but i tried to found a program with the synaptic the other day so..04:43
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jintonic_how could i switch to the command line to copy xf86config into my ~ then go back into bitchx?04:43
ari_tintin: i desable the option of cdrom in the repository04:44
tintinc-z04:44
jintonic_then how do i get back into it though?04:44
tintinjobs04:45
tintinfg the no of the job04:45
ari_tintin:today a enable the option of cdrom in the repository and whuen i try to refresh the list, appers a window that said fails in getting the list from the cdrom04:45
jintonic_how do i kill the jobs ive been suspending :)04:45
ari_tintin:help me plees :(04:45
tintinari_: get a md5 checksum for the cd maybe its corrupt or something04:45
jintonyckfg04:45
ari_tintin: ok04:46
tintinkillall -9 commandname04:46
ari_tintin: how i have to do that04:46
tintinari_: you have to goto www.ubuntu.com04:46
ari_tintin: ok, then04:47
jintonic_can i kill by job number?04:47
tintinthey should have it in the download section04:47
tintinari_: its a very small file less than 3kb iirc04:47
subterrifictintin: did you look at his problem?04:47
tintinjintonic_: ps aux will list all the processes04:47
tintinyou can kill by the fourdigit no04:47
subterrifictintin: it has nothing to do with the checksum of the cd iso04:48
ari_tinti: i have to download that in that page04:48
ari_tinti: it is in the download option??04:49
tintinsubterrific: he isnt able to get the list of all the files that could happen if the cd is corrupt too ...04:49
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subterrificari_: if the cd was corrupt he wouldn't have been able to even install ubuntu04:49
subterrificerr tintin04:49
subterrificari_: you probably don't have your network config setup correctly04:50
subterrificari_: or your /etc/apt/sources.list file is messed up04:50
jintonic_can i killall processes that contain a specific substring?04:50
tintinsubterrific: network config and the list on the cd .... hmm04:50
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ari_subterrific:where i check it04:50
subterrificari_: first, give me the exact error message you're getting04:51
subterrificari_: you can copy and paste it from the dialog04:51
ari_subterrific:the last thing that you tell me because it worked well before04:51
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BROKEN_LADDERi'm new to ubuntu.  i'm looking for something similar to checkinstall for slackware.  i want to be able to go into a source directory, ./configure, and then run a command that will create a package and install it so that the integrity of package management is maintained.04:51
ari_subterrific:ok i will tell you04:52
subterrificari_: well there are two ways, you can manually edit the file, it is /etc/apt/sources.list04:52
HrdwrBoBBROKEN_LADDER: creating a deb package is somewhat more complicated04:52
subterrificari_: or, synaptic provides a gui for editing it04:52
HrdwrBoBBROKEN_LADDER: however, the software you want is probably already packaged04:52
tintinBROKEN_LADDER: checkinstall works in debian too04:52
regeyaBROKEN_LADDER: try 'checkinstall' ;-)04:52
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ari_in the repository when chose cdrom ant i refrech it04:53
subterrificari_: because you took the cd-rom out of the drive?04:53
subterrificari_: just disable the cdrom repos, you don't need it anymore04:53
ChrisC_what are some good VNC viewers to try in Ubuntu besides xvncviewer?04:54
jintonic_how do i send a file via dcc on bitchx?04:54
jintonyckjintonic_ XF86Config04:54
subterrificari_: in Synaptic->Settings->Repositories and uncheck the cdrom one04:54
ari_subterrific:really, because it worked well before without the cd-rom04:54
subterrificari_: it will work until you try to do a refresh04:55
ari_subterrific:ok04:55
subterrificari_: the cdrom repository can only be used if the cdrom is in the cdrom drive04:55
subterrificari_: most of the time you should just disable it.04:55
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ari_subterrific: my question is why it work before without the cd-rom04:56
subterrificari_: it didn't, you didn't try to refresh04:56
subterrificari_: i mean it works, it'll just give you a warning04:57
subterrificari_: does it work now, after you've disabled the cdrom repository?04:57
ari_subterrific:so if i want to use the cd-rom i have just to insert the disc of installation of ubunto04:58
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ari_subterrific:???04:58
subterrificari_: yes, but everything on the cdrom can be downloaded, so unless you have a really slow internet connection, the cdrom repository is worthless04:59
ObsidianXhey why does the ubuntu not detect any partitions past 1?04:59
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ObsidianXubuntu install cd*05:00
ari_subterrific:thank you very much, let me check something ,and i will ask you again05:00
StolenShoeBoxcan anyone tell me how to burn bin/cue files?05:00
ObsidianXits loading the correct module for my ide bus05:00
bob2StolenShoeBox: with cdrdao.05:00
mjrStolenShoeBox, I hear cdrecord supports some of them nowadays05:00
ChrisC_ObsidianX, describe what you mean in more detail, maybe someone will jump in05:01
ObsidianXbut then only /dev/ide/blah/blah/blah/part1 and disc are shown05:01
mjrStolenShoeBox, also, there's bchunk, which can convert from bin/cue to iso/cdr/wav05:01
ari_subterrific: let me see if the cd-rom option works when I insert the cd05:01
Guardiannis there a way of running k3b with out running it as root05:02
ObsidianXif i could make a block device pointing to the other partitions that would probably fix it but i dont know what the major/minor numbers are for partitions05:03
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bob2Guardiann: with sudo?05:03
StolenShoeBoxmjr: thx I are these "terminal programs"05:03
StolenShoeBoxmjr: ima a newbie heh05:03
bob2StolenShoeBox: yes05:03
StolenShoeBoxso how would I burn it05:03
StolenShoeBoxsomethign like cdrdao /home/some/soemthing/tehfile.cue05:04
StolenShoeBox?05:04
StolenShoeBoxand is it "bad" to install kde on ubuntu?05:04
subterrificObsidianX: so basically your problem is that udev isn't creating a /dev/hdXN entry for the drive?05:04
ObsidianXits not creating any hdXN devices, i have to navigate through the ide directory05:05
subterrificnone at all?05:05
ObsidianXi had to sym link hda and hda105:05
ari_subterrific:i there is a messeage that appers "Couldn't be read the source list of packages cdrom://Ubuntu 4.10 _Warty Warthog_ - Preview i386 Binary-1 (20041020) unstable/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/Ubuntu%204.10%20%5fWarty%20Warthog%5f%20-%20Preview%20i386%20Binary-1%20(20041020)_dists_unstable_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 the directory doesnt' exist)"05:06
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StolenShoeBoxinstead of burning it could I just mount the cue file?05:06
ari_ subterrific: it appers even with the cd in the cd-rom drive05:06
subterrificari_: right, the directory doesn't exist because the cd-rom isn't mounted05:06
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subterrificari_: why do you want to use the packages on the cd-rom? just download them05:07
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ObsidianXsubterrific: any ideas?05:08
subterrificObsidianX: you're having this problem when you're booted off the install cd?05:08
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mjrStolenShoeBox, umm, no, but you could probably convert the bin/cue into iso with said bchunk and mount that05:08
ObsidianXyes05:08
mjr(also, you _probably_ could mount the bin file directly but you'd need to know the offset of the iso image data inside that file)05:08
HrdwrBoByou can use cdrdao to burn bin/cue05:09
ari_subterrific: it is because it worked well before without the cd in the cd.rom driver, and someone who install ubunto in the machine is engry with me becase i was the last i used the machine05:09
HrdwrBoBI just bchunk them05:09
bob2StolenShoeBox: cdrdao doesn't have any help output?05:09
StolenShoeBoxmjr: how would I convert it?05:09
subterrificari_: just disable the cdrom repository like i said 5 times and it will work05:10
mjrStolenShoeBox, I don't remember; run "man bchunk" in a terminal05:10
StolenShoeBoxbob2: sure it does i just understand half of it =)05:10
mjrI don't even have it installed currently, I just remember using it once for that purpose05:10
ari_subterrific:and why it doesn't work even with the cd in the cd-rom driver05:10
StolenShoeBoxis it bad 2 install kde?05:10
ari_subterrific: :(05:11
jintonic_how can i get linux cli to be able to use my mouse?05:11
subterrificari_: you're clearly not paying any attention05:11
bob2StolenShoeBox: it's not "bad", it's just unsupported05:11
mjrjintonic_, install gpm05:11
subterrificari_: i'm not helping you any more05:11
StolenShoeBoxbob2: k =)05:11
ari_subterrific: plese dont be angry with me05:11
ari_subterrific:i am nervious05:11
subterrificari_: you can safely ignore that error message05:11
subterrificari_: to get rid of it, you disable the cdrom repos05:11
ObsidianXsubterrific: if i knew what the minor numbers for the partitions were i could create the block devices myself05:11
ari_subterrific:someone is pressure me05:11
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subterrificari_: well tell them to fuck off05:12
jintonic_how can i get linux cli to run at a higher resolution?05:12
subterrificari_: it isn't your fault05:12
ari_subterrific:ok05:12
tintinjintonic_: console ?05:12
jintonic_yeah05:12
subterrificari_: that message happens when you take the cdrom out. it isn't a big deal05:12
regeyaerm.05:12
tintinjintonic_: lilo05:12
jintonic_i'm using grub05:13
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subterrificObsidianX: why are you even using the console on the install cd?05:13
subterrificObsidianX: just run through the installer...05:13
ari_subterrific:so when ubunto was installed05:13
ari_subterrific: all the programs  of the list  coming from the cd05:13
ari_subterrific:were already installed05:13
subterrificari_: yes05:14
subterrificari_: so you no longer need the cd05:14
subterrificari_: it is pointless05:14
bob2jintonic_: it's a lot easier to just use X05:14
subterrificari_: disable it in the repository list and get rid of the error message (6 times now)05:14
ari_subterrific:but if i want to desinstall a program05:14
subterrificari_: you don't need the cdrom05:14
jintonic_heh, i wish i could, but i have (probably) driver problems05:14
subterrificari_: after you've installed, everything can be downloaded. the cd is only for install05:15
subterrificObsidianX: ?05:15
ObsidianXsubterrific: i've resorted to the console because the graphical can't seem to make the devices on its own05:15
mjr205:16
jintonic_looks like this time sudo apt-get install fglrx-driver worked just fine :)05:16
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subterrificObsidianX: so when you get to the partition step it shows no devices?05:17
ari_subterrific:because the list of programs that have been installed already appers mark in grenn, and the question is that if i want to desinstall one of the programs that come first in the cd, still be in the list even without the cd source list05:17
zerokarmaleftjintonic_, did you do a fresh install of warty?05:17
subterrificari_: yes05:17
jintonic_yes05:17
ObsidianXsubterrific: oh it finds the partitions in the partitioner, but only because its reading from the 'disc' or 'hda' file05:17
jintonic_echo fglrx | sudo tee -a /etc/modules returns "fglrx"05:17
ObsidianXonce it gets past that nothing works05:17
ari_subterrific: ok thanks, wait a sec05:18
zerokarmaleftjintonic_, use pico or nano to edit /etc/modules and add a line with 'fglrx' at the bottom05:18
jintonic_its already there05:18
subterrificObsidianX: define nothing works05:19
StolenShoeBoxmjr: It worked great thx. Now i Just need to find out how to moutn it.05:19
zerokarmaleftjintonic_, ok, then the module should get loaded the next time you boot...05:19
zerokarmaleftjintonic_, do lsmod and see if it's loaded right now05:19
subterrificObsidianX: like it won't partition the drives?05:19
trialsd1can anyone help me with my networking? I have tried two different network cards with ubuntu and I can't pull dhcp from the server, the same hardware worked fine with an old Debian install....05:19
subterrificObsidianX: or it won't install packages05:19
jintonic_doesnt look like it05:20
zerokarmaleftjintonic_, have you installed the linux-686 kernel?05:21
jintonic_no05:21
zerokarmaleftok, sudo apt-get install linux-686, then reboot and come back05:22
ChrisC_OK, newbie alert:  I need help getting DVD playback to work ... I discovered the totem movie player, but it says unrecognized/unknown cd type 0x005:22
BROKEN_LADDERwhat do i do to install a package, like a blah.deb?05:23
BROKEN_LADDERbear in mind this is my first day as an ubuntu user.05:23
zerokarmaleftBROKEN_LADDER, sudo dpkg -i blah.deb05:23
BROKEN_LADDERwhy sudo?05:23
BROKEN_LADDERi have a terminal as root.05:23
StolenShoeBoxHow can I mount an iso?05:23
zerokarmaleftubuntu was designed to do root things with sudo05:24
ObsidianXsubterrific: wont partition/mount the drive05:24
subterrificObsidianX: are you trying to do a custom partition scheme or just the default?05:25
BROKEN_LADDERit actually makes a difference?05:25
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jintonic_ok, 686 kernel installed05:25
tintinBROKEN_LADDER: sudo makes more sense and is secure buy you can use the root terminal05:25
ObsidianXsubterrific: custom05:25
ObsidianXbrv05:25
ObsidianXbrb*05:25
ChrisC_re DVD:  I did look at ubuntuguide, didn't work ... googled ...05:25
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jintonic_lsmod shows the driver05:26
ari_subterrific:thank you very much and i guive you a apology if i exasperating you, thatks for you patients but you have to know what it feels like when you feel gilty fo unfix something05:26
bob2ChrisC_: don't bother with totem05:26
zerokarmaleftjintonic_, ok, edit your XFree config file and find Section "Device"05:26
bob2ChrisC_: read wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and use gxine or mplayer05:26
zerokarmaleftand change 'ati' to 'flgrx'05:26
ChrisC_bob2, thanks, reading now05:27
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jintonic_i remember ati.com mentioned fglrxconfig, its a modified x86config it looks like05:27
jintonic_shoudl i try that?05:27
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trialsd1help with my networking anyone? i could really use some ideas here, both the 3c905tx and rtl8139D are well supported05:27
zerokarmalefti don't understan...is there a fglrxconfig file sitting in /etc/X11?05:28
jintonic_no, but it seems very much like xf86config05:28
jintonic_only difference is it seems more oriented to radeon hardware05:28
zerokarmalefthmm...just make that one change to the existing config for now05:29
jintonic_with some stuff that makes a little more sense05:29
jintonic_ok05:29
bob2you really don't need firegl to get X working05:29
tintinChrisC_: you need some libraries like libdvdcss and stuff (google for those libraries ) i dont think any linux version ships those05:29
ari_ subterrific: are you there??05:29
bob2trialsd1: module loaded? does 'dmesg | grep eth' show them?05:29
ari_tinti: thanks for you help05:29
trialsd1bob2: yes05:30
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bob2trialsd1: does assigning an IP statically work?05:30
bob2trialsd1: has dhcp worked under linux before?05:30
jintonic_the amount of memory is commented out, should i uncomment it?05:30
zerokarmaleftdon't worry about it05:30
trialsd1bob2: 8139too Fast Ethernet driver 0.9.27....eth0: RealTek RTL8139 at 0xdc00, 00:09:a1:55:4d:70, IRQ 1005:31
jintonic_edited05:31
zerokarmalefttry startx05:31
jintonic_same error05:31
bob2trialsd1: does 'ifconfig -a' list it?  does assigning an ip work?05:31
jintonic_(ee) no devices detected still05:31
trialsd1bob2: static doesn't work, and yes I use to have dhcp working with this computer with the same hardware and an old Debian install...and I'm using a laptop with linux right now that gets dhcp fine....05:31
bob2trialsd1: sure the cable is ok?05:32
ari_ subterrific:thank you very much and i guive you a apology if i exasperating you, thatks for you patients but you have to know what it feels like when you feel gilty fo unfix something. I hope that you can see this message i have to go05:32
bob2that's almost always the cause of my weird network issues...05:32
zerokarmalefthmm...you sure your changes to the config file were written?05:32
jintonic_yup05:32
jintonic_maybe i edited the wrong part though05:32
trialsd1bob2: yes, it's listed in ifconfig -a as eth005:33
trialsd1bob2: I've tried switching nework cords, same deal05:33
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jintonic_driver "fglrx" is insife section "device"05:33
trialsd1bob2: dmesg shows NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: transmit timed out errors...05:34
zerokarmalefthmm05:34
bob2trialsd1: hrm05:34
jintonic_there's another section "device" above it that contains drive "vga"05:34
jintonic_driver "vga"05:34
bob2trialsd1: try asking on the list I guess, I'm outta ideas05:34
ChrisC_ooookay, I installed gxine, and upon startup, it tells me that "/dev/cdrom permissions are not sufficient".  /dev/cdrom is a link to hdc.05:35
zerokarmalefthave you tinkered with the config with xf86config after you installed?05:35
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jintonic_nope05:35
trialsd1also is there supposed to be drum beats that keep repeating over and over after x11 starts?05:35
bob2no, only once05:35
bob2ChrisC_: do you have permission to access it?05:35
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zerokarmaleftcomment out the other "device" section05:36
bretzelhi bob2 :-)05:36
zerokarmaleftthe one that specifies the vga driver, save and then try starting x again05:36
ChrisC_well, the symbolic link has lrwxrwxrwx permissions05:36
bob2ChrisC_: not the link, /dev/hdc05:37
ChrisC_brw-rw----    1 root     cdrom     22,   0 2004-12-31 18:06 /dev/hdc05:37
bob2are you in the cdrom group?05:37
bob2by default, you will be05:38
ChrisC_why wouldn't it have set me up in tht group already?  this is a vanilla install05:38
ChrisC_ok, checking05:38
jintonic_commented, same error05:38
ChrisC_yes, I'm in that group05:39
bob2does 'gxine dvd://' work?05:39
zerokarmaleftjintonic_, ls /var/log | grep XFree05:39
ChrisC_does it matter that it's not executable?05:39
BROKEN_LADDERwhere can i search for available debian/ubuntu packages?05:39
BROKEN_LADDERi need libglademm205:39
bob2ChrisC_: the device? no.05:39
bob2BROKEN_LADDER: apt-cache search libglademm05:39
nevynBROKEN_LADDER: synaptic05:39
ChrisC_several errors from gxine dvd:// ...05:40
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ChrisC_no input plugin found05:40
zerokarmaleftjintonic_, is there an XFree86 log?05:40
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bob2ChrisC_: you install libdvdcss, right?05:40
ChrisC_error from /dev/dvd, dang it the error went away05:41
bretzelChrisC_: libdvdcss2 - and other thing that I dunno for dvd navigation05:41
ChrisC_yes, but lemme double check synaptic -- libdvdcss vs libdvdcss2?05:41
amathisJacks_Colon: colons are SOOO overrrated05:41
jintonic_i made a copy of the old xconfig, tried fglrxconfig, different errors now... no matching device section for instance (busid pci:1:0:1) foung05:41
Jacks_Colonwhatever05:41
jintonic_yes, the logs are there05:41
Jacks_Colonwithout a colon, youre nothing05:42
Jacks_Colonand a very messy person :-/05:42
amathisJacks_Colon: I am a pancreas typa guy myself.05:42
ChrisC_libdvdcss2 1.2.5-105:42
Jacks_Colonpancrei suck!05:42
zerokarmaleftcan you restore the old config, run startx, and dcc me XFree86.0.log?05:42
Jacks_Colonyou can take insulin to replace them05:42
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jintonic_ok, how do you dcc with bitchx?05:42
zerokarmaleftheh, i dunno05:42
Jacks_Colonwithout a colon, you have a tube jammed in your rectum and you have to carry a bag!05:43
BROKEN_LADDERwow..ubuntu is sweet05:43
BROKEN_LADDEReasier than slackware was.05:43
bretzelChrisC_: Wow from what source  did you get the libdvdcss2 ????05:43
ChrisC_heck if I know by now :)05:43
bretzel:-)05:43
Jacks_ColonI AM THE GREATEST!05:43
ChrisC_may have been the marillat archive05:43
Poprocksbretzel, probably mariatt05:43
Jacks_ColonIf you have a Colon, Please say "I"!05:43
Poprocksor whatever it's called05:43
amathisJacks_Colon: you suck. literally.05:43
bretzelbecause I am dying to get it but my pat-get sources.list is full of ... sources but no luck to get it05:44
BROKEN_LADDERhow do i make apt-get recursively install any dependencies?05:44
ChrisC_so what's the difference between libdvdcss and libdvdcss2?05:44
Jacks_Colonyou all dont have colons?!05:44
amathisChrisC_: the 2 at the end.05:44
amathiso.o05:44
BROKEN_LADDERone probably adheres to css version 205:44
Jacks_Colonyou are very disguisting people!05:44
PoprocksBROKEN_LADDER, it does so automatically05:44
amathisBROKEN_LADDER: HAHAHAHAHAHA05:44
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BROKEN_LADDERPoprocks: it isn't doing so now.05:44
BROKEN_LADDERit specifically is leaving things out.05:45
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PoprocksBROKEN_LADDER, tell me what you want to do and what it's not doing05:45
BROKEN_LADDER  libglademm2.0-1c102: Depends: libgtkmm2.0-1c102 but it is not going to be installed05:45
BROKEN_LADDERtrying to install libglade205:45
bretzelmariatt : duh! I think I misstyped that section... checking!!! :-)05:45
nevynBROKEN_LADDER: that means that the dependancies are broken.05:45
BROKEN_LADDERbroken?05:45
nevyntry installing each bit until you get to something that says "is not installable because...."05:46
BROKEN_LADDERi want it to install working libraries then.05:46
Jacks_Colonyou all sux0rz!05:46
BROKEN_LADDERack05:46
bob2Jacks_Colon: please stay on-topic05:46
bob2BROKEN_LADDER: you're using warty, right?05:46
Jacks_Colonok05:46
bretzelhmmm same URL error -- In what dist ??05:46
Jacks_Colonthe topic is colon's05:46
Jacks_Colondrink from me05:46
bretzelI put "testing" ?05:46
bob2Jacks_Colon: no, please don't05:46
nevynbob2: that sort of bug should not exist in warty..05:46
bob2yeah, I know05:47
ChrisC_OK, let me try this question:  where do I get libdvdcss (not "2"?) from?05:48
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bob2I doubt you want that.05:49
bretzelPoprocks: I need to know the distrib name for mariatt05:49
Poprocksbretzel, if you're using warty, use testing, and if you're using hoary, unstable.05:49
bob2I don't think testing works anymore.05:49
Poprocksoh yeah?05:49
bretzelthat's it ! URL is not working anymore! :-(05:49
BROKEN_LADDERwhat does apt-get -f install do?05:50
bob2the url is not the problem05:50
bob2the packages are not installable05:50
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bob2BROKEN_LADDER: you are using warty, right?05:50
tintinChrisC_: google :) and maybe try the mplayer webpage for a link :)05:50
BROKEN_LADDERmmhmm05:50
bob2BROKEN_LADDER: -f doesn't do what you want05:50
BROKEN_LADDERwarty warthog sir.05:50
bob2BROKEN_LADDER: please paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood05:50
BROKEN_LADDERokay05:50
bretzelbob2: Ok so you  know where we can get libdvdcss .?05:50
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ChrisC_Yeah, but I've been there done that going around in circles05:50
bob2you don't need libdvdcss05:51
bob2you want libdvdcss2 or something05:51
BROKEN_LADDERbob2: it TOTALLY did what i wanted.05:51
BROKEN_LADDERit fixed my problem.05:51
BROKEN_LADDERlike nothing flat05:51
jintonic_hrm05:51
bob2well, you must have done something very weird to get into that state05:51
bretzelbob2: Ok but where to get it ? :-)05:51
bob2the instructions on the wiki don't work?05:51
zerokarmaleftjintonic_, i think you can '/dcc chat zerokarmaleft' to dcc chat so you can just copy/paste your log05:52
BROKEN_LADDERit's a brand new install bobby05:53
BROKEN_LADDERbobby bob bobo05:53
jintonic_something funky is happeneing now... startx returns "undefined device (video card identifier that i changed, here)05:53
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jintonic_so its telling me an identifier that isn't defined in xf86config anymore...05:54
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ChrisC_wiki stops with libdvdcss2 install, I still get "no input plugin found" and "read error from /dev/dvd"05:55
zerokarmaleftjintonic_, what did you specify as Driver in that section?05:56
jintonic_fglrx05:57
ChrisC_oh wait, it says to install libdvdcss2 "as well as mplayer and gstreamer plugins".  Sigh.  I already have the standalone gxine player.  What do I need now?  Oh, and mplayer isn't in synaptic, aww screw this I need sleep05:57
BROKEN_LADDERwhat is the proper way to edit the gnome applications menu?05:57
zerokarmaleftjintonic_, what's the value for BusID?05:57
jintonic_its commented out05:58
jintonic_but PCI:0:10:005:58
jintonic_its an AGP card05:58
Guardianni am really liking this distro05:58
HrdwrBoByes05:58
Guardiannfast and fairly easy to learn05:59
drspinGuardiann: I dig it as well :)05:59
zerokarmaleftjintonic_, change it to BusID "PCI:1:0:0"05:59
Guardiannthe best one i have tried05:59
zerokarmaleftjintonic_, anything else in that section?05:59
jintonic_thats the section that the driver "vga" was in, that i commented out06:00
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jintonic_it was saying that color depth 16 was unsupported... so i changed it to 24 and now it doesnt have that error but has errors about the mouse06:02
zerokarmaleftok, if you changed the identifier, then you need to change the value for Device in Section "Screen" to match06:02
etiteswehat the hell is a .MKV file?06:03
HJwhere would i go to get the latest testing version of ubuntu? http://cdimage.ubuntulinux.org/sounder-test/current/ or http://cdimage.ubuntulinux.org/daily/current/  , or would http://cdimage.ubuntulinux.org/weekly-dvd/ work too, since i'd rather use dvd06:03
jintonic_yup, i figured that one out, thats how i got this far06:03
zerokarmaleftok, with the BusID change did you try again?06:03
jintonic_i'm checking, but i don't think i'm seeing any errors related to video anymore06:03
zerokarmaleftgood06:04
jintonic_yeah, but the busid was commented out and in another section06:04
etitesHJ... daily?06:04
etitesdoes anyone know what a .mkv is06:04
HJis it?06:04
zerokarmaleftjintonic_, well change the BusID for the Section where you specify Device "flgrx"06:04
jintonic_ok06:05
jintonic_the first error i'm getting is about the mouse, looks like /dev/mouse doesnt exist06:05
jintonic_thats the only error now, the mouse06:06
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zerokarmaleftjintonic_, find Section "Input Device" and change Option "Device" "/dev/mouse" -> Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"06:07
bretzelHj: About weekly dvd of hoary - Did tried it ?06:08
jintonic_WOOHOOO!!!06:08
jintonic_x finally works :D06:09
jintonic_thank you :)06:09
zerokarmaleftawesome06:09
bretzeloops read did YOU tried ?06:09
jintonic_i better write all this shit down for next time06:09
jintonic_:P06:09
HJbretzel: i'm asking is that a snapshot of ubuntu testing or ubuntu stable06:09
HJand if not where i can get a stapshot of testing06:10
bretzelCertainly NOT stable !06:10
bretzelThat's it it is hoary and I think the DVD is the best choice if you have - like me - a DVD burner06:10
HJok, cool06:11
izaacHJ: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/06:11
HJi'm gonna give it a try then06:11
HJizaac: yeah, just a little confused though. like what's sounder-test?06:11
izaaci dont know too06:11
izaac:S06:11
HJizaac: and the weekly-dvd and daily are snapshots of unstable right06:11
HJlol06:11
HJok06:11
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jintonic_the scroll wheel isn't working in x06:13
BROKEN_LADDERi'm so in love with ubuntu on my first day of using it, that it's really just quite silly.06:15
Vaportrail:)06:15
zenroxBROKEN_LADDER,  then dont make love to it06:15
zenroxhehehe06:15
drspinBROKEN_LADDER: perhaps you should reconsider the use of your... tool...06:15
zenroxrofl06:15
hwmI'm running the synaptic install tool to get and upgrade a couple of things and it shows failed packages... what does one do at this point?06:16
jintonic_yup, i've only been using ubuntu gui for a couple minutes and its pretty kickass... worth the hassle? probably :)06:17
Guardiannwhats nice is i am getting everything to work so far ;)06:17
drspinGuardiann: took me about two days of tweaking to get it right ;)06:17
zerokarmaleftjintonic_, you'll have to add some configuration options to your X config file06:17
zenroxjintonic_,  yes its worth the little work to get it to do what i want06:17
BROKEN_LADDERokay, ever since installing ubuntu, it seems i can't use alsa..06:18
Vaportrailmy only problem is the eSound Daemon delay, but this is a general linux prob06:18
BROKEN_LADDERlike i only get sound if i use the gnome volume applet on "usb oss"06:18
jintonic_yup06:18
zerokarmaleftjintonic_, add Option "Buttons" "5" and Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"06:18
BROKEN_LADDERi set the volume o 100% in alsamixer..06:19
hwmi've had not problem with sound on an ibm laptop... but I wonder what to do if synaptic fails in installing a package... try again later?06:19
BROKEN_LADDERahh shucks..this kernel must be compiled with support for oss :(06:19
jintonic_ok, i'm in love now... it auto-mounted my thumbdrive and ipod :D06:20
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drspinis there a way to configure gnome mixer to just use the alsa mixer and not show the OSS mixer?06:20
drspinwithout unloading the driver ;)06:20
Vaportrailjintonic_ don't forget to use a condom06:20
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jintonic_no, i'm not gonna do the nasty with it, just pet it suggestingly06:21
intradeis this a live distro?06:21
Vaportrail:)06:21
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IBOIChi06:21
IBOICubuntu coming along ? :)06:21
drspinintrade: if you mean LiveCD, yes there is a LiveCD available :)06:21
IBOICubuntu free cd comes with live + install cd06:22
intradei heard about ubunto on a forum06:22
IBOICintrade:  You can get free cd from ubuntu06:22
intradefree shipping from switzerland06:22
jintonic_woops, looks like my keyboard isnt working :P06:22
intradesanp06:22
intradesnap06:22
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IBOICintrade:  Yes mine was shipped from switzerland :)06:22
IBOICintrade:  I think06:22
IBOICim not sure06:22
intradei like kanotix better06:22
IBOICkanotix?06:22
IBOICis that a new distro?06:23
intradewell lol thats a bit early to tell06:23
intradeits german06:23
intradedebian also06:23
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intradewww.kanotix.com06:23
ionsmy system has decided to not boot past the modprobe fatal error for pciehp and shpchp06:23
intradeor /join #kanotix lol06:23
BROKEN_LADDERyay!  the new temperature applet supports kelvin.06:23
ionsit's just hanging now06:23
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nevynBROKEN_LADDER: kelvin is all good.06:24
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ionsit was booting fine with the errors and now it's hanging06:24
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hwmsometimes this irc is great - good answers and sometimes it's like talking to Redmond -- bye06:26
intradeany errors when it hangs06:26
drspinok I'm off to bed06:26
drspinnight all06:26
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IBOICubuntu is #5 on distrowatch now :)06:26
IBOICwe are going up in the world06:26
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IBOICubuntu ahead of suse :)06:26
IBOICon hpd06:26
IBOICfor the month06:26
intradesuse is ass06:27
Vaportrailyast/sax is ass06:27
subterrifichow is MEPIS so high?06:27
Vaportrailcorruption06:28
Vaportrail:P06:28
ionsany ideas on why my box would hang on pciehp and shpchp when it use to just move on and continue installing?06:29
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HJcan't the ubuntu install resize a ntfs parition to make room? or should i use another program to do that?06:29
jintonic_whaddya use for yahoo messenger on linux? preferably something that supports file transfer and IMVironments and yahoo's emoticons06:29
bob2gaim.06:29
IBOICgain doesnt do imvironments06:30
intradeyup gaim rules06:30
IBOICBUT06:30
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IBOICimvironments = all ads06:30
JackandJohngaim - wow I was impressed06:30
subterrificmepis has a poll on their homepage and it has fewer votes than people in this irc channel...06:30
IBOICgaim has imvironments now or no?06:30
JackandJohneven after trillians06:30
intradeneither does yahoo messenger for unix06:30
IBOICwho uses IM now anyways :)06:30
bob2"imvironment"?06:30
IBOICbob2:  Its some stupid yahoo ad based thing06:30
IBOICbrings up ads06:30
intradegaim got all smilys06:30
IBOICand does cute things like bring up donald trump who says fired06:30
jintonic_some of the imvironments have ads, not all06:31
IBOICfor aprentice06:31
nevynbob2: it's like a fullscreen chat environment with a theme06:31
IBOICjintonic:  ALL!06:31
jintonic_heh, ok06:31
IBOICjintonic:  its all about marketting06:31
HrdwrBoBthat sounds terrible.06:31
IBOICsome are just for yahoo marketting :P06:31
intradeskype is tops06:31
nevynHrdwrBoB: it's really not terrible.06:31
IBOICskype = spyware06:31
intradenop06:31
intradewell not that i see06:31
intradei called overseas06:31
intradetop voice06:32
intradeon 2kbs06:32
IBOIChow much is skype for calls?06:32
JackandJohnok, question.. the process monitor in the bar shows 100% cpu, the task manager won't admit to more than 10% even with hidden processes.. what am I missing?06:32
HrdwrBoBnevyn: how could that not be terrible06:32
intradefree within system06:32
IBOICu mean person to person?06:32
IBOICor pc to phone?06:32
IBOICmost people dont have phone for voice yet06:32
HrdwrBoBanythiung fullscreen that is not a game06:32
intradepc to phome like 9 c06:32
IBOICerr i mean pc for voice sorry06:32
HrdwrBoBus terrible06:32
intradeor so a min06:32
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IBOICi get free calling06:33
intradepc pc voice free06:33
IBOICusa + canada06:33
IBOICthru my wireless phone offpeak06:33
IBOICinternational i dont call06:33
intradebest quality voice better then yahoo06:33
IBOICso i dont know06:33
calcJackandJohn: looking at all 7 numbers?06:33
intradeor eyballchat06:33
intradecheck skype.com06:33
JackandJohncalc: all 7? looking @ cpu %06:33
IBOICim networks are lame......... its all spam06:33
intradefor skype out calls06:33
IBOICims are all kiddies06:34
IBOICno real business uses ims they have their own chat systems06:34
jintonic_wow... i could actually imagine using ubuntu as my primary desktop environment06:34
IBOICjintonic:  With hoary yes........06:34
intradek seyas06:34
IBOICwell if warty works then fine :)06:34
calcJackandJohn: not sure which app you are using but there are 7 different things when its split out06:34
intradei am off to kanotix06:34
calclike with top:06:34
calcCpu(s):  0.3% us,  0.3% sy,  0.0% ni, 99.3% id,  0.0% wa,  0.0% hi,  0.0% si06:34
calcCpu(s):  0.3% us,  0.3% sy,  0.0% ni, 99.3% id,  0.0% wa,  0.0% hi,  0.0% si06:34
IBOICwarty still has alot of buggies06:34
calcer sorry for double paste06:34
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calcuser, system, idel, i/o wait, hardware interrupt, software interrupt06:35
IBOICon the internet where can one reach the most amount of users at any given time?06:35
jintonic_how do i update to whoarie?06:35
IBOICIRC?06:35
IBOIClol06:35
jintonic_:)06:35
IBOICi mean in communication06:35
bob2IBOIC: to do what?06:35
IBOICbob2:  Communication06:35
JackandJohnah.. found it by mem amount (forgot about top) - firefox had spun out of control06:35
bob2IBOIC: about what?06:35
IBOICbob2:  overall06:35
IBOICim curious as to where most traffic is06:36
IBOICin the evenings06:36
bob2IBOIC: there are tons of studies on that topic06:36
IBOICiboic:  Ok so whats the answer ? :)06:36
IBOICor where can i find those studies06:36
jintonic_heh, gaim is packaged for multiple distros and they're all rpm format..06:37
jintonic_thats sounds kinda funky06:37
bob2gaim's in ubuntu06:37
jintonic_hey, whaddya know :)06:37
JackandJohnCalc; thanks :)06:38
zerokarmaleftjintonic_, use apt-get / synaptic to get software06:38
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bob2http://in.tech.yahoo.com/041103/137/2ho4i.html is one06:38
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IBOICbbob2:  Bittorrent is bandwidth not communications06:39
bob2then you need to define communication more strictly06:40
IBOICbob2:  I mean like yahoo chat, icq, aim, or whatever else people use to communicate on the net06:40
Guardianndoes anyone know how to get k3b to burn as a user instead of root06:40
bob2I don't think it's a meaningful question, but ok06:40
bob2Guardiann: using sudo?06:40
IBOICbob2:  Bittorrent is p2p06:40
IBOICpeople like to warez06:40
Guardiannyes taher then sudo06:40
Guardiannhmmm rather06:40
bob2Guardiann: you don't want to use sudo?06:41
Guardiannnot to open k3b06:41
IBOICbob2:  Whats ironic is that the open source community embraces bittorrent yet they take copywritted works and they wouldnt get those works if they were open source06:41
Poprocksyay I got my webcam working :)))06:41
bretzelgod night all - I am sleeping on my kb ...06:41
Poprocksanyone wanna gnome meeting??06:41
Poprocks:P06:41
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bob2IBOIC: er, I don' thtink the "open source community" has any tolerance for copyright infringement06:41
bob2IBOIC: of their own work or other's06:41
IBOICbob2:  I know there are legit uses, however most of the bittorrent transfers are copywrite infringement06:42
IBOICbob2:  90%06:42
diemanIBOIC: so 'embracing' bittorrent is now contribuitory infringement?06:42
diemanIBOIC: thank god we have people other than you as judges.06:42
PoprocksIBOIC: but the FOSS community doesn't embrace that kind of usage06:42
IBOICdieman:  What im saying is that alot of the users use copywritted works on it06:42
IBOICim not saying all06:42
bob2IBOIC: there's lots of everything on it06:42
IBOICi think bittorrent is a good thing06:42
IBOICbut06:42
diemanIBOIC: and, your extending that as contributory infringement06:42
IBOICit has evil uses06:43
diemanIBOIC: take back what you said about the irony and I'll take back what I say.06:43
bob2um, copyrightr infringement is not "evil"06:43
IBOICpoprocks:  Of the GNUers yes, but most of the users arent06:43
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bob2anyway, this is off-topic06:43
Poprocksyes06:43
jintonic_apt-get / synaptic causes an error: invalid opetation /06:43
IBOICim just saying06:44
DanielCHello. Is it worth upgrading the kernel to 'linux-image-686' instead of the default -386 ?06:44
IBOICwell06:44
IBOICnevermind06:44
HrdwrBoBDanielC: yes06:44
Poprocksjintonic_: apt-get install synaptic06:44
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bob2DanielC: can give a bit of a speed boost06:44
DanielCYay. Ok, is it as simple as an apt-get install ?06:44
DanielCIs there a config step?06:44
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jintonic_it says synaptic is already latest06:44
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bob2DanielC: no06:44
DanielCok06:45
bob2jintonic_: then you already have it installed06:45
Poprocksjintonic_: then you already have the latest version06:45
Poprocksit comes with it anyway06:45
jintonic_so i already have whorie?06:45
Poprockswhorie?  heh06:45
jintonic_:):D06:45
bob2jintonic_: er, no, you already have synaptic installed06:46
IBOICubuntu-offtopic to chat more on this06:46
nomasteryodajintonic_,  too much gin and tonic?06:46
nomasteryodahehe06:46
jintonic_yup06:46
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jintonic_tired after spending a couple hours getting x to work06:46
nomasteryodayea06:46
nomasteryodai heard that06:46
Poprocksyeah I remember when it took me forever to get X running...06:46
jintonic_thanks again, zerokarmaleft :)06:47
bob2jintonic_: please file a bug06:47
nomasteryodaycco was trying yesterday06:47
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BROKEN_LADDERis my sound device probably /dev/dsp?06:48
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BROKEN_LADDERi need to specify it in one of my apps..06:49
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BillyAnachronismI'm having HEAPS of problems installing ubuntu-ppc06:49
bob2on a new world ppc?06:49
BillyAnachronismuh..06:49
BillyAnachronismdunno06:49
BillyAnachronismits like a G306:49
BillyAnachronism(I don't usually use macs)06:49
bob2g3 imac?06:49
BillyAnachronismpowerpc I think06:50
Guardiannok people i am off to bed happy Ubuntuing  :)06:50
BillyAnachronismproblems with installing the base06:50
BillyAnachronismit just stops for no reason06:50
BillyAnachronismI've tried reburning like 80 times06:50
BROKEN_LADDERwell..there's probably a reason.06:50
bob2BillyAnachronism: you checked the md5sum of the iso?06:51
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BillyAnachronismbob2, no06:51
BillyAnachronismis there a way I can do that in windows?06:51
bob2don't know06:51
DanielCbob2: ok, I tried google, but I can't figure out how to upgrade a kernel "the Debian way".06:51
BillyAnachronismalso.. is there a way I can install the base from eth006:51
bob2DanielC: install the package. reboot.06:52
bob2BillyAnachronism: yes, you can do a network install.06:52
bob2BillyAnachronism: you'll need to find out how to tftp boot your machine, tho06:52
bob2or find a net install cd06:52
jintonic_hrm... something is making web browsing go kinda slow on ubuntu06:52
DanielCbob2: That's it? apt-get install and reboot? Wow.06:52
MacPlusG3BillyAnachronism: what model PPC?06:52
jintonic_it takes about 7 seconds for google to load..06:53
MacPlusG3BillyAnachronism: some parameters to the bootloader should be able to select more advanced options... probably in FAQ06:53
BillyAnachronismMacPlusG3, I'm not sure.. its a tower, aqua and says G306:53
MacPlusG3BillyAnachronism: does the description "Blue and White G3" sound correct?06:53
BillyAnachronismMacPlusG3, yes06:53
BillyAnachronismI couldn't find the parameters to install everything off the net and nothing by cd06:54
BillyAnachronismbut I'll keep looking06:54
MacPlusG3BillyAnachronism: linux should have no problems on it.06:54
BillyAnachronismI'm also trying to find the net install cd06:54
bob2it sounds like a dud cd06:54
BillyAnachronismits a problem with the stupid media06:54
BillyAnachronismI've burnt heaps of times..06:54
bob2BillyAnachronism: you can install md5sum.exe and at least check the .iso file is correct06:54
BillyAnachronismive gone through 5 cds and 3 burning programs06:55
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BillyAnachronismbob2, ok06:55
zenroxbob2,  or check it off the install cd06:55
bob2oh yeah, good point06:55
aminshelp, I did: chmod -R 666 * to make all myfiles that I copied from Windows modifyable. Strange things happen: I can't read files in folder->folder.  How to fix it06:55
bob2amins: ouchy, that was a bad idea06:55
bob2amins: to be able to see into directories, you have to have execute permission on them06:55
BillyAnachronismah actually06:55
PoprocksMmm, I love how I can just install the kernel headers and not the full source!!06:55
jintonic_submitting a bug that the ati radeon 9200 le doesnt work with the generic radeon driver... what package should i blame it on?06:55
bob2amins: find /path/to/files/ -type d | xargs chmod 77706:55
BillyAnachronismI'm running the ubuntu live x86 cd on this machine at the moment06:56
BillyAnachronismhow can I check the md5sum on linux?06:56
bob2jintonic_: warty?06:56
aminsbob2: for all files one by one ?06:56
jintonic_yeah06:56
BROKEN_LADDERanyone here have an sipphone?06:56
BROKEN_LADDERsip address?06:57
zenroxsip??06:57
bob2amins: no06:57
BROKEN_LADDERlike an internet phone06:57
BillyAnachronismdw found md5sum, lol06:57
MacPlusG3BROKEN_LADDER: sip://6616@sip.us.mysql.com06:57
bob2BillyAnachronism: there's an option on the cd to check it, too06:57
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bob2amins: it will do them all for you06:57
BROKEN_LADDERcan i test my account settings by calling you?  i have speaker but no mic.06:57
MacPlusG3BROKEN_LADDER: sure06:57
lifelessMacPlusG3: cool06:58
jintonic_it looks like i should be blaming it on "debian-installer"? :-/06:58
BROKEN_LADDERis it calling you?06:58
MacPlusG3BROKEN_LADDER: yeah, did you hear when i spoke?06:58
jintonic_or maybe X1106:58
BROKEN_LADDERno.06:58
BROKEN_LADDERi have /dev/dsp listed.06:58
BROKEN_LADDERi'm using a usb sound card.  should i maybe change to "/dev/esd"?06:58
Poprocksjintonic_: did the installer tell X to use the radeon driver?06:58
MacPlusG3BROKEN_LADDER: ls /dev/dsp* (you may have more than one)06:59
jintonic_no06:59
BROKEN_LADDERhmm06:59
BROKEN_LADDERhow can i test them?06:59
BROKEN_LADDERfind out which one is right..06:59
MacPlusG3BROKEN_LADDER: "esd -d /dev/dsp" should play a sound when esd starts07:00
BROKEN_LADDEROKAY07:00
BillyAnachronismbob2, yeah I check it on the cd.. its under expert mode.. there is an error but its with like a screensaver file07:00
Poprocks  a cool sound :)))07:00
MacPlusG3BillyAnachronism: try to get one without errors :)07:01
BROKEN_LADDEResd is already running..07:01
MacPlusG3BROKEN_LADDER: "killall esd". then do it for each one07:01
MacPlusG3BROKEN_LADDER: and listen to where sounds come out from.07:01
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BillyAnachronismthe md5sum is the same!!!07:01
ManiakNZQues? - how have people found the success rate of the Live CD?07:01
BillyAnachronismthis is insane..07:01
bob2BillyAnachronism: your cd burner is making bad cds then07:02
bob2BillyAnachronism: try burning at 2x or such07:02
BillyAnachronismI'll try burn under linux..07:02
BillyAnachronismManiakNZ, I'm using it now07:02
MacPlusG3BROKEN_LADDER: killall esd; for i in /dev/dsp*; do echo $i; esd -d $i &; sleep 2; killall esd; done07:02
BillyAnachronismManiakNZ, there are some CRAZY bugs07:02
bretzeluh! Nautilus burns DVD-iso images  out of the box! ? :-)07:02
MacPlusG3BillyAnachronism: check against the md5sums on the web07:02
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MacPlusG3bretzel: yeap07:02
BillyAnachronismMacPlusG3, I just did07:02
BillyAnachronismthe md5sum is fine07:02
bretzelNot sleeping yet I forgot I was donloading a DVD iso07:03
bob2the md5sum of your .iso is fine07:03
bob2the burnt cd is not07:03
bob2try burning at a lower speed07:03
ManiakNZBillyA - thanks - I will try it on my wife's box and see if it likes that one......07:03
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aminsbob2, what I did was : #cd /mydata  #chmod -R 666 *    I can read all files in /mydata or /mydata/vi/    but not /mydata/vi/pics    it says Unknowtype   for the type, unknowndate under col DateModified in nautilus. What should I do ?07:04
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BillyAnachronismuh crap07:05
bugz_where can i download all the security updates for ubuntu so i can install it offline?07:05
BillyAnachronismwhats the program to eject the livecd so I can put another in temporarily07:05
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BROKEN_LADDERit IS /dev/dsp!07:06
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BROKEN_LADDERso why am i getting no sound?07:06
bob2amins: you should read what I said07:06
MacPlusG3BROKEN_LADDER: what voip software are you using? is it able to use esd07:06
bob2amins: you made all your directories non-executable, which means you can't read them.  ru nthe command I said to fix it.07:07
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BROKEN_LADDERminisip07:07
BROKEN_LADDERi dunno..07:07
MacPlusG3BROKEN_LADDER: try killing esd and then running it07:08
BROKEN_LADDERi just did.07:08
BROKEN_LADDERit makes that sound.07:08
aminsbob2, I already did   find /mydata -type d | xargs chmod 777. It doesn't work. Still unknown type in folder->folder07:08
MacPlusG3BROKEN_LADDER: i mean killing esd and then running voip software. i.e. so voip sware is running without esd hogging /dev/dsp07:08
BROKEN_LADDERhmm..07:08
BROKEN_LADDERokay07:08
BROKEN_LADDERi see07:08
bob2amins: find /mydata -type d -exec chmod 777 \{\} \;07:09
jintonic_the author of ubuntu bug 5240 returns....07:09
jintonic_:P07:09
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BillyAnachronismcan someone how to eject the live cd?07:09
bob2BillyAnachronism: you can't07:09
bob2it's running off it07:10
BillyAnachronismnah, I've done it before07:10
jintonic_billy: UTT07:10
BillyAnachronismjintonic_, ?07:10
BROKEN_LADDERdrat..nothing07:10
jintonic_universal tech tool07:11
jintonic_paper clip07:11
jintonic_:)07:11
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BillyAnachronismah07:11
aminsbob2, find /mydata -type d -exec chmod 777 \{\}\;     It says missing argument to `-exec`07:12
bob2oh well07:12
BROKEN_LADDERcan't i ogg123 /home/brokenladder/MUZIKO/PEARL_JAM/Various\ Artists\ -\ Singles\ -\ 02\ Pearl\ Jam\ \ Breath.ogg -d /dev/dsp07:12
BROKEN_LADDER=== No such device /dev/dsp.07:12
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bob2jintonic_: so install it with all of one command07:12
BROKEN_LADDERgame = lame07:12
jintonic_yeah, but still07:12
bob2jintonic_: you can't have every random app anyone might want in the default install07:13
BROKEN_LADDERwhy would ogg123 say no such device?07:13
crimsunBROKEN_LADDER: -d oss07:13
BROKEN_LADDERyou mean alsa?07:13
bob2BROKEN_LADDER: that's now how the -d option works, man ogg123 explains it07:13
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jintonic_bob2: redhat was trying ists damndest for that end... suse too07:14
BROKEN_LADDERoh yeah..i forgot, this default kernel supports oss. :(07:14
bob2BROKEN_LADDER: no, it does both07:14
bob2you can use alsa if you want07:14
BROKEN_LADDERlol07:14
jintonic_whats the package name for tux racer?07:14
bob2the important thing is making sure nothing else is using /dev/dsp or /dev/snd/whatever07:14
bob2jintonic_: apt-cache search tux racer07:14
BROKEN_LADDERwhen compiling the kernel with usb audio, one is supposed to NOT compile OSS.07:14
bob2BROKEN_LADDER: if you made a custom kernel, the config is up to you07:15
BROKEN_LADDERi already did that in slackware.07:15
Rene_SI want to compile the Nvidia 5336 drivers on warty, but it keeps giving me an error about not finding the module name and ideas whats going on there ?07:15
BROKEN_LADDERright now i don't have the time because i have numerous other issues i'm tryin to tackle to get this machine off the ground.07:15
jintonic_its not there! :(07:15
bob2BROKEN_LADDER: why don't you just use the default Ubuntu kernel?07:15
BROKEN_LADDERsimply finding out the correct name of my audio device would be swell.07:15
bob2jintonic_: did you enable universe?07:15
BROKEN_LADDERi am of course.07:15
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BROKEN_LADDERthus the problem.07:15
bob2jintonic_: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto07:15
BROKEN_LADDERit has oss support.07:15
BROKEN_LADDERwhich is mutually exclusive with proper alsa usb audio support.07:16
bob2BROKEN_LADDER: please stop making claims07:16
bob2the default kernel uses alsa07:16
BROKEN_LADDERoh brother07:16
Poprocksubuntu uses alsa.. period07:16
Poprocksoss emulation maybe07:16
bob2it also loads the oss emulation modules07:16
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bob2right07:16
BROKEN_LADDERoh..it's the emulation?07:16
BROKEN_LADDERthen that's fine.07:16
JackandJohnon alsa.. I'm having a hell of a time.. is there anything special I need to do with my game theatre xp?07:16
Poprocksalsa and oss should all work but in the end it's all actually oss07:16
Poprockserr07:16
Poprocksalsa07:16
BROKEN_LADDERno.07:16
BROKEN_LADDERthe howto's go out of their way to explain what i found out the hard way.07:17
BROKEN_LADDERif you compile alsa and usb audio support, you CAN NOT compile oss support.07:17
BROKEN_LADDERit will not work.07:17
bob2that sounds quite wrong07:17
Poprocksyeah, hence oss emulation07:17
BROKEN_LADDERyup.07:17
bob2if it's true, I hope they have filed a bug07:17
Poprocksbut you can have both, I'm pretty sure07:17
PoprocksI've never tried, I've always kept as far away from oss as possible07:17
BROKEN_LADDERyeah no kidding07:17
JDahlhow much space does ubuntu take up for some of you devs here? My root partition is completely full and I cant figure out what's taking up so much space (3.5GB) - I just have basic Hoary + GNU tools07:18
Poprocks3.5 GB is.. not a lot.07:18
bob2JDahl: default install is 1.8GB, build-essential is another couple of hundred meg or so07:18
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jintonic_i dont see where it says universe07:18
Poprocksjust how many extra tools did you install though?07:18
Rene_SWtf do my questions offend people or what, I ask a question wait patiently and no one even offers a I dont know ?07:20
Poprocksthen again.. I've installed quite a bit of extras and I'm still only using 3.207:20
JDahlPoprocks, Python, gcc, xemacs, umfpack, + several others, nothing that should take from 1.8GB to 3.5GB07:20
bob2Rene_S: you want 300 people to say "I don't know|?07:20
Rene_SNo just one thanks07:20
BROKEN_LADDERis using esd somehow better than telling an app to just "use alsa"?07:20
BROKEN_LADDERlike say xmms07:20
bob2Rene_S: try asking on the user list if you don't get an answer here07:20
bob2BROKEN_LADDER: no, but it's sometimes neccessary07:20
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PoprocksRene_S: I could offer some ideas but I don't have an nvidia card so I wouldn't be able to help too much07:20
BROKEN_LADDERahh07:20
PoprocksRene_S: have you installed the kernel headers?07:20
Rene_Syes07:21
Rene_Sand the source07:21
Rene_Sand make a links07:21
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Rene_Slink07:21
PoprocksBROKEN_LADDER: and get GStreamer to use esd, which should be using alsa07:21
Poprockserr, it _will_ be using alsa07:21
Rene_Sso i do what i have always done just it wont compile on warty its odd07:21
Rene_Swould removing the nvidia kernel common package help ya think ?07:22
BROKEN_LADDERi don't really use gstreamer yet, but i will when theora maures.07:22
BROKEN_LADDERmatures.07:22
PoprocksRene_S: fwiw, I wasn't able to build any kernel modules until I got rid of the kernel source, installed the headers and let the packs do their own thing07:22
PoprocksBROKEN_LADDER: what's wrong with gstreamer?07:22
smittyI'm trying to convert m4a music files into waves or mp3s. Is that possable with XMMS?07:23
Rene_Saight i give that a shot, thanks Poprocks07:23
Poprockssmitty: I'd recommend mplayer/mencoder07:23
BROKEN_LADDERnothing that i know of.07:23
BROKEN_LADDERand as i said, i'll use it when theora matures.07:23
Poprockswell you'll be missing out on some cool programs, but ok07:23
BROKEN_LADDERokay..maybe i'll give it a shot.07:24
BROKEN_LADDERright now i'd like to get minisip working ;/07:24
Poprockswell you don't have to ;-)07:24
BROKEN_LADDERMacPlusG3: hey.07:24
BROKEN_LADDERcan you call me to see whether my sip phone will "ring"?07:25
smittypoprocks: can you tell me how to go about it in mplayer?07:25
bob2smitty: use mplayer07:25
bob2smitty: but it's way better to just rerip to ogg or mp307:25
jintonic_apt-get kicks ass07:25
MacPlusG3BROKEN_LADDER: yeah... got a sip address?07:26
Poprockssmitty: I've always liked to have lots of control with my mplayer, so I build it myself usually07:26
BROKEN_LADDERi just called you!07:26
BROKEN_LADDER:)07:26
BROKEN_LADDERone sec07:26
MacPlusG3got an actual phone number07:26
BROKEN_LADDERyeah why?07:27
smittybob2: i downloaded them as m4a...so if i convert them to mp3's will their be a loss of quality in sound?07:27
BROKEN_LADDER17476674278@SIPPHONE.COM07:27
bob2smitty: yes, don't know if it will be noticable or not07:27
BROKEN_LADDERwhat sip client do you use?07:27
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MacPlusG3BROKEN_LADDER: i have a snom190 phone07:28
BROKEN_LADDERoh my f gawd!07:28
BROKEN_LADDERi lust for that phone.07:28
BROKEN_LADDERsrtp07:28
MacPlusG3am getting Request Timeout07:28
BROKEN_LADDERof course, i will never buy a hard sip phone until it supports speex and diffie-hellman key exchange and whatnot.07:29
MacPlusG3have you punched the right ports through your firewall?07:29
BROKEN_LADDERack..07:29
BROKEN_LADDERi'm using a proxy.07:29
BROKEN_LADDERi thought that would take care of such problems.07:29
crimsunJackandJohn: use the snd-cs46xx driver with the new_dsp option07:30
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BROKEN_LADDERoh try it at proxy.sipphone.com07:30
BROKEN_LADDERcrap07:31
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BROKEN_LADDERahh..this sucks.07:34
jintonicwhere's the toolchain setup aide?07:36
bob2hm?07:37
bob2you mean the build-essential package?07:37
jintonichaha, oops, wrong channel ;)07:38
bugz_where can i download all the security updates for ubuntu so i can install it offline?07:40
MacPlusG3bugz_: you should just be able to download the updates url (wget -r or something)07:42
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bugz_MacPlusG3, thanks...07:44
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BROKEN_LADDERopen /dev/dsp: No such device <-- why do i get this error, when /dev/dsp clearly exists?07:50
BROKEN_LADDERand i'm in the "audio" group and can play audio fine.07:50
jdubBROKEN_LADDER: do you have multiple sound devices? check /proc/asound/cards07:51
zerokarmaleftjintonic, yes apt-get does kick ass :)07:51
jdubBROKEN_LADDER: you might have a record-only device initialising first07:51
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BROKEN_LADDERit's a play-only device.07:52
BROKEN_LADDERit has no mic07:52
BROKEN_LADDER0 [AN1            ] : USB-Audio - MD-PORT AN107:53
BROKEN_LADDER                     XITEL MD-PORT AN1 at usb-0000:00:07.2-2, full speed07:53
jdubBROKEN_LADDER: hrm, not sure (and unfortunately, i have to leave)07:53
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BROKEN_LADDERdoes ubuntu have the autofs daemon running?07:54
BROKEN_LADDERis that how it's operating?07:54
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crimsunBROKEN_LADDER: does `aplay -Dplughw:0 foo.wav' work?07:55
BROKEN_LADDERi'll check sir.07:55
crimsunBROKEN_LADDER: make sure that esd isn't grabbing /dev/dsp* or /dev/snd/*07:55
BROKEN_LADDERthat works.07:56
BROKEN_LADDERthat command works.07:56
crimsunBROKEN_LADDER: lsmod|grep snd_pcm_oss07:58
BROKEN_LADDERit is loaded07:58
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BROKEN_LADDERi know that already07:58
BROKEN_LADDERi have oss emulation on07:58
crimsunBROKEN_LADDER: so any oss app fails?08:00
BROKEN_LADDERuhh..08:00
smittyi'm having trouble creating a music library with music player.08:00
BROKEN_LADDERno.08:00
BROKEN_LADDERsound works fine with everything.08:00
crimsunBROKEN_LADDER: "everything?" Then what's the issue?08:00
BROKEN_LADDERi mean, with everything else but minisip.08:01
BROKEN_LADDERminisip says that /dev/dsp doesn't exist08:01
smittywhat does it mean when you load a song into the music library and then nothing happens?08:01
crimsunBROKEN_LADDER: dpkg -l alsa-oss|grep ^ii08:01
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IBOICworld peace!08:01
crimsunsmitty: using what application?08:02
IBOICI WANT UBUNTU ! NOT MICROSOFT!08:02
IBOICgive me ubuntu or give me death :-)08:03
smittycrimsun: music player. I'm supposed to be able to point to a music file...click to send it to the library...it says it loads but then it says I have nothing08:03
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smittyif i go into music player and add the folder from the program...i go into the folder and no files are shown08:04
BROKEN_LADDERno packages found matching alsa-oss08:04
BROKEN_LADDERfolder?08:04
BROKEN_LADDERyou mean directory?08:05
smittyyes08:05
crimsunBROKEN_LADDER: do you have the 'universe' repo enabled?08:05
crimsunBROKEN_LADDER: if so, install 'alsa-oss'08:05
BROKEN_LADDERuniverse?08:05
crimsunsmitty: do you have 'gstreamer0.8-mad' installed?08:05
BROKEN_LADDERthere is no such packages as alsa-oss08:05
BROKEN_LADDERwhat is a repo?08:06
crimsunalsa-oss: 1.0.5-1 0 500 http://archive.ubuntu.com warty/universe Packages08:06
crimsunBROKEN_LADDER: a repo is an abbreviation of a [software]  repository08:06
BROKEN_LADDERso you put it in some apt-get config file?08:07
smittycrimsun: I'm not sure. how can I check08:07
crimsunBROKEN_LADDER: there are instructions on the wiki for enabling the 'universe' repo08:07
crimsunsmitty: did you, at any time, follow the instructions on the RestrictedFormats wiki page to install packages to play mp3s?08:07
smittya friend set me up up linux ubuntu just recantly.08:08
smittyi'de been using windows for years08:09
smittyI have Xmms...and it plays mp3's fine08:09
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BROKEN_LADDERmp3 is a dinosaur08:09
BROKEN_LADDERyour friend set you free it sounds like.08:10
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crimsunsmitty: dpkg -l gstreamer0.8-mad|grep ^ii08:10
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smittyNo packages found matching gstreamer0.8-mad.08:12
crimsunsmitty: follow the directions on the wiki for enabling the 'universe' repo, then install the 'gstreamer0.8-mad' package, then restart Music Player08:12
smittybroken ladder: set me free?...i'm an artist and recording is not something linux seems to be invented for.08:13
crimsunsmitty: I record under Linux using Ardour08:13
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smittycrimsun: ever use cool edit? is their any linux program that's as good and easy to use as Cool Edit?08:15
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smittyCrimsun: where is the wiki btw?08:16
crimsunsmitty: 'audacity' is nice. The wiki is linked from the ubuntu home page.08:17
Lizanyone know how to fix this..i cant install the ubuntu desktop and all related files to it08:17
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Lizjust says its broken and wont install cause of the dependencies08:17
crimsunLiz: are you installing from a Warty install cd?08:17
crimsunLiz: or are you dist-upgrading or cross upgrading from another distro?08:17
Lizneither08:18
Lizi apparently have a dev copy from a linux workshop we had locally08:18
Lizrun perfectly till now08:18
Lizi tried to install gdesktop08:18
jintoniccan i tar a file into a specific output dir?08:18
smittyI'm still getting the impression windows is better for "just" recording.08:19
jintonicuntar, rather08:19
Lizbut now everythings screwy..and synaptic uninstalled all my gnome files08:19
crimsunjintonic: sure.08:19
Lizcause it said it was broken08:19
jintonichow?08:19
smittyi'm a newbie though so disregard08:19
Lizis there a way to re-install all without deleting all my data in /home?08:20
crimsunLiz: hmm. The package 'gdesktop'? If so, I'm not registering any such package in Warty.08:20
zenroxjintonic,  easy go to the dir you want it in then do your tar command by adding the dir whar the tar is located08:20
Lizits not in warty crimsun..we d/led it to install..08:20
crimsunLiz: from where did you download it?08:21
Lizand see if it would run..but it had problems with libgnomeui files08:21
smojintonic: -C should do the trick .. ie "tar xzf profile.tgz -C /home/user/" is in one of my scripts08:21
zenroxjintonic, like you want it in /home/name/download but its in /home/name  go to the download dir then do tar -xzvf somefile.tar.gz08:22
zenroxjintonic, like you want it in /home/name/download but its in /home/name  go to the download dir then do tar -xzvf /home/name/somefile.tar.gz08:22
jintonici'd prefer to be able to just specify a output dir no matter my cwd08:23
Lizhttp://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/08:23
Lizi got it from there crimsun08:23
smojintonic: That's precisely what -C or --directory=  does08:23
zenroxsmo is right08:24
zenroxi jsut do it the hard way08:24
crimsunLiz: ah, that package is in the 'universe' repo08:24
smoI hate to sound like a perl nut, but there's always more than one way ...08:24
crimsunLiz: you did not need to manually download it then install it08:24
jintonichrm, but if the output dir doesnt exist it doesnt work08:25
Lizit is?..i had a look before i downloaded it off that website08:25
crimsunLiz: absolutely: gdesklets: 0.26.2-5ubuntu1 0 500 http://archive.ubuntu.com warty/universe Packages08:25
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Lizcool..but that doesn solve my problem now..how do i get all the ubuntu desktop environment back?08:29
Lizit wont let me install anything08:29
Lizand im not sure exactly which file i do need to put back on here08:29
Lizshort of putting them all back on08:29
zenroxliz start with gnome08:29
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zenroxdo in your console sudo apt-get install gnome08:30
Lizwont let me08:30
zenroxin a console08:30
Lizthe only console i have left is root terminal08:30
crimsunLiz: sudo apt-get --reinstall install ubuntu-desktop08:30
zenroxthat too08:31
Liznope..says broken packages08:31
Lizwont let me install any of them08:31
alias[k] Oh I had that problem...08:31
zenroxremove the gdesklets first08:31
Lizits not installed08:32
alias[k] I just formatted though, so I'm not much help...08:32
Lizwouldnt install cause of libgnomeui08:32
Lizformat is what i would do..but i wanna try and sae it first08:32
Lizi have too  many files on here to just format08:32
alias[k] Yeah08:32
alias[k] I know how that is.08:32
zenroxis your /home is a defernt partion08:32
Lizno its not08:32
BROKEN_LADDERwhat's a program i can run to test whether /dev/dsp works?08:33
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crimsunBROKEN_LADDER: `cat /dev/urandom /dev/dsp'08:33
crimsunerr08:33
zenroxliz thats to bad08:33
crimsunBROKEN_LADDER: `cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp'08:33
Lizyeah..i kept meaning to re do it all..but i just never got around to it08:33
zenroxliz then you cant format an reinstall with out using files08:33
Lizme bad08:33
zenroxlol08:33
zenroxliz nows your chance08:34
Lizlol08:34
Lizyeah..yeah..08:34
zenroxlol08:34
BROKEN_LADDERyup..that worked. :)08:34
crimsunLiz: could you /join #flood and paste your apt-get errors?08:34
zenroxliz d/l the releaced cd08:34
BROKEN_LADDERstrange then, that minisip complains that /dev/dsp does not exist.08:35
alias[k] Does anyone know how I might be able to install Ubuntu on my MP3 player. (Boot off usb hdd).08:35
Lizi have the released one zenrox08:35
Lizbut why install something that was working anyway08:35
alias[k] Is it possible to install it without formatting, into a subdirectory of the root08:35
zenroxalias[k] ,  no08:35
alias[k] What about LiveCD08:36
zenroxalias[k] , nope08:36
alias[k] Damn.08:36
alias[k] So At last resort I could format mp3 player, stick a normal install on, then replace all the old files.08:36
zenroxalias[k] , the install cd requires a linux partion08:36
alias[k] Can't install under FAT32?08:37
zenroxnope08:37
alias[k] Could just partition it.08:37
zenroxyep08:37
alias[k] Lets see if it likes being partitioned.08:37
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Alysanderhello?08:46
zenroxhello08:46
zenroxwaz up alias[k] 08:47
zenroxerr Alysander08:47
AlysanderSo the other 259 people can read that too?08:47
zenroxyep08:48
Lizyep08:48
zenroxAlysander,  so what bring you to this chanel08:50
AlysanderWell I have had some trouble getting my sound working08:51
BROKEN_LADDERanyone else here ever used minisip?08:51
zenroxalsa ?? , werty or hoary08:51
Alysanderwarty, asus k8ne deluxe motherboard08:52
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Rene_Sminisip?  only when i am drinking uzo08:52
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smittyi can't find how to enable the universe on the wiki. i've been looking for an hour08:53
zenroxsmitty,  look at http://ubuntuguide.org08:53
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aToasterls08:53
Rene_SCall Steven Hawkins and NASA, there into the Universe08:53
rm6990smitty: give me a couple seconds, ill post my /etc/apt/sources.list online...just replace yours with mine08:53
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aToasterHey guys, I'm having a problem when I try to run ./configure on a source, whats the problem? "checking how to run the C++ preprocessor... /lib/cpp08:54
aToasterconfigure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check08:54
aToasterSee `config.log' for more details.08:54
aToaster"08:54
crimsunaToaster: sudo apt-get install build-essential08:54
rm6990smitty: go here and replace everything in your /etc/apt/sources.list with this   http://www.pastebin.com/22425508:55
Rene_Stake 2 prozacs and call the coder in the morning :)08:55
rm6990does anyone know why security updates aren't coming through right now08:55
rm6990?08:55
rm6990has there just not been anyuthing to update?08:55
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crimsunrm6990: nothing lately08:56
aToasterwoa, your awesome crimsun08:56
rm6990oh, ok, just wondering, im uptight :P the same thing happened with yoper once, turned out the distro was almost dead08:56
aToasterwhat did that do?08:56
rm6990smitty: did u get my information?08:57
aToasterOh, question, so I'm new to using linux as a desktop, so Cedega is not free?08:57
zenroxaToaster,  yep08:57
zenroxaToaster,  unless you compile it your self08:57
zenroxcvs part of it is free08:57
AlysanderI think most people dual boot with windows for games08:58
zenroxbut no support08:58
zenroxAlysander,  not me08:58
zenroxi have nix games08:58
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zenroxnwn +the 2 other expantion packs08:58
AlysanderWhich ones do you use zenrox?08:58
dasmiAnyone tried Ubuntu on an original iBook?08:58
smittyi got it but it's all confusing and overwhelming to me08:58
zenroxAlysander,  alpha cintury ,nwn(neverwinter nights) , thats it now if i had a better vid card doom3 , ut 2k4 ut 2k ect08:59
smittyeveryone keeps throwing me to pages and saying screw it08:59
crimsunaToaster: it installs the minimum required packages for compiling C and C++ source code09:00
zenroxsmitty,  thats what your spost to do is read the f***en manuel as we like to say09:00
smittybeen reading.09:00
zenroxsmitty,  what dont you understad about the pages the code or what? ill try to help you09:01
Alysanderdid you get to the part where it says type:  sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list09:01
zenroxso dont take that the wrong way09:01
Alysander(on http://ubuntuguide.org/)09:02
smittyok....crimson told me to go to the witty and learn how to enable the universe.09:02
zenroxwiki09:02
zenroxlol09:02
zenroxthe ubuntuguide.org is easer to understand smitty09:02
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Rene_SHell just ask Nasa to enable the universe next time09:03
smittynow will it say anything about enableing....or will it just talk about adding a package?09:03
Rene_Smore straight forward than the witty09:03
zenroxsmitty,  it covers every thang09:04
Alysanderyou just edit the text file and fire up synaptic from the menu09:04
zenroxyep09:04
smittygreat. I'll be back in a year after i've read it all.09:04
Rene_SI love this place its like i am not even here09:04
zenroxRene_S,  yep09:04
zenroxwhare did Rene_S  go09:05
Rene_Syou ruined it now09:05
smoI think if it's really that hard to find, there's a documenation issue to be looked at, not ridiculed :/09:05
zenroxshe vanished09:05
Rene_SYou spoke to me09:05
Rene_Sthat shouldnt happen in here09:05
Rene_SI am the channel leper09:05
zenroxi am the chanel mispeller09:05
zenroxlol09:05
Vaportraildon't take drugs Rene_S09:06
Vaportrailzenrox, too :P09:06
zenroxhahaha09:06
crimsunRene_S: with what do you need assistance?09:06
Rene_SI have to take drugs09:06
Vaportraily?09:06
Rene_SNothing, I am just being a shit, its 3 am09:06
Rene_Sand i am waiting on a kernel09:07
zenroxso i can keep my "sanity"09:07
Vaportrailoh, here its 9 am09:07
zenrox12 am here09:07
Alysander7pm for me09:07
Liz7pm here09:07
Rene_SWow cool09:07
Alysanderyou in melbourne too liz?09:07
Vaportraillocations? :P09:07
Rene_Speople from the future09:07
zenroxwashington state usa09:07
Vaportrailhrhr09:07
Vaportrailberlin - germany09:08
dasmiso that's a no on the iBook thing09:08
Liznaa..nsw09:08
AlysanderI tried everything except ubuntu on a bunch of imacs09:08
feAR`ryts09:09
zenroxi want one g3 to put ubuntu on to09:09
Alysanderfedora core 3 works pretty good09:09
zenroxor g409:09
Vaportraili would prefere mac os on a mac :)09:09
izaac1 am for me09:09
izaacsonora state mexico09:09
Vaportrailso, i would prefere mac os on x86, too09:09
dasmiYes, but on a 300MHz iBook, I think Ubuntu would be faster than OS X09:09
Vaportrailword09:10
zenroxlol09:10
dasmioh how I wish OS 9 was more stable.09:10
izaacdasmi: on a ibook try yellowdog09:10
izaacan*09:10
Rene_SI wish OS/2 was still available09:10
dasmiThink that'll work better?09:10
Alysanderyes09:10
Vaportraildrugs...09:11
Alysanderprobably09:11
Alysanderjust try everything09:11
dasmiya. well bedtime now.09:11
AlysanderSo does anyone know about getting nvidia\realtek sound chipsets going?09:12
crimsunAlysander: snd-intel8x0 is the ALSA driver.09:12
Alysandervolume control gives me two tabs:09:13
Alysanderrealtek id 90 [oss mixer] 09:13
Alysanderand Nvidia ck8s [alsa mixer] 09:14
crimsunAlysander: ok, so it appears to be loaded at least, and the alsa mixer tab is probably less confusing (though they should perform identical operations)09:14
Alysandermostly, except the OSS mixer has a digital out too09:15
crimsunok, what sort of problems are you experiencing with sound?09:15
AlysanderNo sound09:16
crimsunare the channels muted?09:16
Alysanderno09:16
jintonicthis app "sound juicer" doesn't support mp3 encoding?09:16
AlysanderI can use digital out or headphones09:16
Alysanderbut have 8 channel plugs09:16
crimsunjintonic: appears to support ogg vorbis and flac, at least09:17
Alysanderunder Mandrake 10.1 I set line-in to output09:17
jintonicyeah... but ogg and flac don't work on my ipod...09:17
crimsunAlysander: please open a terminal and execute `aplay -Dplughw:0 foo.wav'09:18
calcit can do mp3 but requires some configuration afaik09:18
calci don't know what you have to do to make it work though09:18
jintonicthats kinda silly09:18
calcjintonic: its not like you can distribute mp3 encoders09:18
calcso it can't default to that, otherwise it would do nothing at all09:19
jintonicwhy not?09:19
calcyou probably have to install lame and then change some option09:19
calcjintonic: mp3 encoding is patented and is actively enforced apparently09:19
nomasteryodayea, why not... i encode mp3s all the time on my archos09:19
nomasteryodahehe09:19
jintonicdidnt know that, i bet its only enforced cuz the riaa leaned on the patent holders09:20
calcnomasteryoda: probably either with a program you download from outside the patent countries or with software you paid for (including licensing fees)09:20
nomasteryodacalc, well ... the archos comes with an mp3 encoder built in.09:20
nomasteryodai would guess he ipod does to09:20
calcnomasteryoda: ah ok09:20
calcit might but its not exposed in a way to use it09:21
nomasteryodaand yea, the license was paid for by me i would guess.. but very small ... i'm guessing09:21
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nomasteryodaand i put the hacked firmware... rockbox on it for better menus and mp3 quality09:21
calcyea mp3 license is probably very cheap per unit, but you have to pay for a large sum at once or something like that09:21
nomasteryodaif i dropped your ipod from 4 ft, would it still look the same and work?09:22
AlysanderOK crimsun I tried:09:22
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Alysanderaplay -Dplughw:0 /usr/share/sounds/question.wav09:22
AlysanderPlaying WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/question.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 44100 Hz, Mono09:22
calcnomasteryoda: not sure if the current version does the patented drive stoppage or not09:22
nomasteryodamy archos has padding on the corners..09:22
calcnomasteryoda: you saw that apple patented large drops right? ;)09:22
nomasteryodayea09:22
nomasteryodalike that is a patentable idea09:22
calci don't intend to drop my ipod though :)09:22
calclike amazon one-click :)09:23
nomasteryodasoon pissing while standing will be patented09:23
nomasteryoda=)09:23
Rene_Stoo late09:23
Rene_SI took one out on that this morning09:23
nomasteryodalol09:23
ogranomasteryoda: go to cologne/germany......in carnival times.....09:23
nomasteryodamicroshaft got that patent already09:23
smoI can certainly claim prior art there09:23
ogranomasteryoda: it costs you 30 euro license fee :)09:24
nomasteryodaman, that is high dollar urinal... lol09:24
ograheh09:24
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nomasteryodamorning to you all... time or a couple hrs zzz09:25
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BROKEN_LADDERhow can i make apt-get search for a package?09:28
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crimsunBROKEN_LADDER: not sure what you mean09:29
BROKEN_LADDERlike i need libgcrypt09:29
crimsunBROKEN_LADDER: apt-cache(8) search is the preferred method09:29
BROKEN_LADDERbut i don't know the exact name of the package09:29
crimsunBROKEN_LADDER: (e.g., apt-cache search libgcrypt)09:29
jintoniclooks like i need a plugin to gstreamer for mp3?09:29
luc1f3rI just connected a new hard drive, how do i install it?09:29
jadawinapt-cache search libgcrypt will work09:29
crimsunjintonic: enable the 'universe' repo, then install 'gstreamer0.8-mad'09:29
jadawinluc1f3r: cfdisk ?09:30
luc1f3rjadawin, what does that do?09:30
izaacgnome app to take desktop screenshots09:30
jadawinluc1f3r: cfdisk - Curses based disk partition table manipulator for Linux09:30
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luc1f3rjadawin, so i typed it, and it gave me the two partitions on my computer, not the new disk, however09:31
jadawinluc1f3r: cfdisk /dev/hdX09:32
jintonicwhat does that mean?09:32
jadawinluc1f3r: change X with your new hard disk partition.09:32
jintonicthats the second time i've heard 'universe' in relation with apt-get today09:32
luc1f3rjadawin, how do i know what it is? if i have hda already, is it hdb?09:32
jadawinluc1f3r: i think so.09:32
luc1f3rjadawin, i'll try09:33
luc1f3rjadawin, I see this new drive now09:33
luc1f3rjadawin, what do i do with it?09:33
BROKEN_LADDERwhy is apt-get giving me errors that some library is not installed? why doesn't it install them?!09:33
jadawinluc1f3r: cool :)09:33
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jadawinluc1f3r: create a new partition should be a good idea09:34
luc1f3rjadawin, it is already partitioned09:34
aracatacahi to everybody!09:34
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Vaportrailhi to u09:34
luc1f3rjadawin, i added a fat32 partition on this drive, and i want it as extra storage09:34
jintonicCouldn't find package gstreamer0.8-mad09:35
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Vaportrailanybody wants a gmail invitation?09:35
jintonicvapor: sure09:35
aracatacai'd have to set up ubuntu on a pc with a modem connection to the net. and sure, gmail would be fun!09:35
BROKEN_LADDERwhat does it mean if apt-get says linphone has dependencies that are uninstallable?09:35
luc1f3rjadawin, did you catch that last msg?09:36
BROKEN_LADDERThe following packages have unmet dependencies:09:36
BROKEN_LADDER  linphone: Depends: libgcrypt1 (> 1.1.11-0) but it is not installable09:36
aracatacaso i'd have to install ubuntu totally from the install-cd, is that possible?09:36
BROKEN_LADDERit's how i did it.09:36
BROKEN_LADDERbut then i connected it to the net to install various packages.09:36
crimsunBROKEN_LADDER: because libgcrypt1 is in the 'universe' repo09:36
BROKEN_LADDER??09:37
BROKEN_LADDERjesus h christ09:37
jadawinluc1f3r: just search on google.09:37
crimsunBROKEN_LADDER: have you enabled the 'universe' repo like I suggested over an hour ago?09:37
luc1f3rjadawin, think anyone here knows?09:37
aracatacabut is there no downloadable iso with all extensions included?09:37
jadawinluc1f3r: sorry but i have to work now.09:37
luc1f3rjadawin, okay , thanks09:37
jadawinluc1f3r: I think, but it's better to search on google.09:37
aracatacaany ideas?09:37
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skywebhi09:39
IBOICwow09:39
IBOICnew netbsd is nice09:39
BROKEN_LADDERi'll enable it now.09:39
IBOIClook at the benchys09:39
BROKEN_LADDERwhat's the url?09:39
IBOICubuntu better :)09:39
skywebi'm searching how to active suspend mode for my ubuntu laptop09:39
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crimsunBROKEN_LADDER: it's commented out in your /etc/apt/sources.list09:40
BROKEN_LADDERi'm there right now.09:40
BROKEN_LADDERi already edited that file earlier.09:41
BROKEN_LADDERwhy didn't you explain it as simply adding a repository to my apt-get?09:41
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BROKEN_LADDERdo i want to uncomment both of those lines?09:43
BROKEN_LADDERsource and binary?09:43
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ruebe_hi09:44
CSWookieSomeone prosthelitize ubuntu at me.  I wish to know the good things about it.09:45
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BROKEN_LADDERit rocks.09:45
BROKEN_LADDERi just used slackware for like a year.09:45
BROKEN_LADDERliked it pretty well.09:45
CSWookieBROKEN_LADDER: In greater detail.09:45
BROKEN_LADDERubuntu is a million times better.09:45
BROKEN_LADDERthe install is the best i've ever seen.09:45
BROKEN_LADDERsimple and fast.09:45
CSWookieslackware....  I wasn't a fan of it.09:45
BROKEN_LADDERthe default desktop is great.09:45
BROKEN_LADDERit is a "fork" of debian, if that's not a bad way of putting it.09:46
BROKEN_LADDERso it has great package management.09:46
smoin a nutshell .. most of debian's strengths, with sane defaults, a solid release schedule, and commercial support09:46
BROKEN_LADDERheh..absolutely.09:46
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crimsunBROKEN_LADDER: binary should suffice09:46
BROKEN_LADDERohh...what if i have them both? is that bad?09:46
crimsunBROKEN_LADDER: you only need source if you plan to pull it using apt-get source09:46
BROKEN_LADDERi'm all for installing from source when possible09:46
crimsunBROKEN_LADDER: no, it won't hurt at all09:46
CSWookieBROKEN_LADDER: So I was given to understand.  Where does it surpass debian?  Is it another case of, "Debian is too generic, we'll focus on architectures normal people use."?09:46
BROKEN_LADDERit has san defaults, a solid release schedule.09:47
kleedraccrimsun: May I message you?09:47
BROKEN_LADDERbasially it's more geared toward a desktop system, with less need of admin.09:47
crimsunCSWookie: integration of a well-supported desktop with the confusing choices excised09:47
BROKEN_LADDERwell, you can always choose them if you want to.09:47
crimsunkleedrac: I'd rather you keep it in-channel if at all possible, but if it must be query, I don't mind.09:48
BROKEN_LADDERi still need to find out how ubuntu is doing mounting..whether it's autofs.09:48
BROKEN_LADDERi hate it when things are hidden from me09:48
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smoBROKEN_LADDER: Most likely hal/dbus/gnome-volume-manager.  google for "project utopia" should bring up some info on the combination09:48
CSWookieAh.  Nifty.  I've always got my eye out for a linux system for my dad.  The problem is, he likes to have up-to-date hardware, and he always goes for the least expensive thing.  So it's never smooth sailing to install stuff.09:48
crimsunBROKEN_LADDER: for removable devices?09:49
crimsunBROKEN_LADDER: hal is definitely used; more than likely if it's a removable device, you're dealing with pmount09:49
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Lizdid anyone get the gdesklets working in warty?09:50
BROKEN_LADDERpmount?09:51
BROKEN_LADDERsimilar to autofs?09:51
Liznevermind..ill ask tomorrow09:51
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Lizbye bye all09:51
BROKEN_LADDERi can't apt-get linphone09:51
BROKEN_LADDERwhy the hell not?09:51
kleedracmako: Are you up and about?09:51
BROKEN_LADDERit says it has unmet dependencies.09:51
BROKEN_LADDERwhy does it not install them?!09:52
emwsonDoes anyone know how nautilus-cd-burner use cdrecord?09:52
CSWookieYour website gave me the shivers.  But I guess you'll have that.  Corporate mumbo-jumbo gives me the willies sometimes.09:52
jintonichrm... evolution - mail doesn't seem to support changing to port of your pop/smtp server...09:52
emwsonI can burn using cdrecord, but not Nautilus burn:///09:53
izaacjintonic: try the thunderbird backport :D09:54
BROKEN_LADDERThe following packages have unmet dependencies:09:54
BROKEN_LADDER  linphone: Depends: libgcrypt1 (> 1.1.11-0) but it is not going to be installed09:54
BROKEN_LADDERwtf! it isn't going to be installed?!09:54
BROKEN_LADDERwho the hell is my computer to tell me what will or won't be installed!09:54
CSWookieWhat is a sane default, versus a debian one?09:54
BROKEN_LADDERthunderbird is wayyy better than evol09:54
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CSWookieBROKEN_LADDER: Likely means it's held back for some reason or other.09:55
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CSWookieBROKEN_LADDER: And mutt is better than tb.  "All email clients suck.  This one sucks less."09:55
BROKEN_LADDERnow this shiznit is finally working.09:56
BROKEN_LADDERfirebird is a great mail client.09:56
BROKEN_LADDERit doesn't suck by any means.09:56
BROKEN_LADDERit has multiple identities even.09:56
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BROKEN_LADDERit could be a bit better if it would let you compose your own "from", choose signature, choose sent directory, on the fly.. but it's good enough.09:57
BROKEN_LADDERmy webmail is the best email system ever.  fastmail.fm09:57
CSWookieBROKEN_LADDER: mutt is superior.09:57
CSWookieFor mutt is a CLI.  Gloious CLI.09:58
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CSWookies/Gloious/Glorious/09:58
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CSWookieWhy would you want to choose your signature on the fly?  You might as well just type it at composition time.09:59
crimsunBROKEN_LADDER: where are you pulling 'linphone' from? I don't see any such package in Warty.10:01
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mgedminafter upgrading to hoary I'm stuck with 640x48010:06
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BROKEN_LADDERi used apt-get10:06
mgedminxorg.conf has the correct HorizSync and VertRefresh ranges, but the savage driver ignores them10:06
BROKEN_LADDERit works now finally10:06
BROKEN_LADDERthanks for the help folks.10:06
BROKEN_LADDERthat universe thing must have done it.10:07
kleedracbroken: never heard of linphone ... what's it do?10:07
BROKEN_LADDERit's an sip client.10:07
BROKEN_LADDERsip is the standard for negatioting voice,video, text message communication over internet devices.10:07
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kleedracbroken: ahhh ... though I would argue with you on your choice of mail client10:08
emwsonHow does GNOME auto mount my CDs when I insert them? What the name of that module?10:08
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Amon-Raevening all10:08
Amon-Raanyone had any luck getting citrix clients to work on ubuntu ?10:08
crimsunemwson: hal+gnome-volume-manager10:09
emwsoncrimsun: thanks10:09
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emwsoncrimsun: Does hal+g-v-m require any special kernel modules?10:10
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crimsunemwson: inotify, possibly; I've not studied it very deeply.10:10
crimsunemwson: consult the diff.gz for linux-source-2.6.8.110:11
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emwsoncrimsun: Yeah, I guess I need to dive into those diffs...10:11
BROKEN_LADDERit's 282 K in San Francisco.10:12
BROKEN_LADDERi'm chilly10:12
Amon-Rahmm citrix anyone ?10:12
crimsun7C is quite balmy10:13
kleedracIt's -28C here in Saskatchewan :P10:14
kleedracbroken: That10:14
kleedracs 245K10:14
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Jonas_NZhow long does it take for the cds to be shipped form the Ubuntu CD distribution thingy10:17
jintonicheh, root@blah is a joke, right jonas?10:17
BROKEN_LADDERso no one here uses linphone eh?10:17
Jonas_NZjintonic, of course10:17
kleedracamon: http://www.et.byu.edu/caedm/citrix/clients/linux/howtolinux.htm10:18
kleedracDoes anyone know when the next CD's will be shipped?10:18
Amon-Rakleedrac, thats a great one and works for every other distro.10:19
Amon-Raexcept ubuntu10:19
Amon-Ra3 installs 3 different machines and the client wont work, its got me bamboozeled and i was hoping someone here had come across the problem before10:20
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kleedracamon: To be honest I've never heard of citrix before you mentioned it :) ... but why doesn't it work ... ie what doesn't work in the install or binary process?10:20
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Amon-Rait installs infe10:21
Amon-Rafine10:21
Amon-Rajust will not work, opens fine but wont even try to connect10:21
Amon-Rathe same client works normally on my debian sid box no worries10:21
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ubuntuuserhi10:22
kleedracamon: odd ... Sorry I can't help further10:22
Amon-Raits cool10:22
Amon-Rai will find an answer10:22
Amon-Ralol10:23
Amon-Rahttp://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2004-October/003131.html10:23
Amon-Raask and you shall recieve it seems10:23
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kleedracheh ... always ... only usually it comes from crimsun it seems :) that guy's helped me with every problem I've brought here :)10:23
mgedminsolved my 640x480 problem: whatever created /etc/X11/xorg.conf, created it incorrectly10:24
kleedracmgedmin: upgraded to hoary huh?10:24
mgedminI had to change Option "HorizSync" "x-y" to HorizSync x-y10:24
mgedminknown bug, huh?10:24
mgedminyes, hoary for 30 minutes now10:24
kleedracmgedmin: first advice I got when a friend said I should upgrade to hoary was backup my xorg.conf file :)10:25
odysseymgedmin, what do you think of it so far?10:25
mgedminof what, exactly?10:25
mgedminhoary as opposed to warty?10:25
kleedracAnywho ... I'm off to bed ... first day of term tomorrow ... night all :)10:25
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mgedminwarty left a pretty good impression - almost everything worked out of the box10:25
mgedminhoary left a somewhat worse impression due to 640x48010:26
ubuntuuseri like ubuntu10:26
Vaportrailhoary is unstable...10:26
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ogramgedmin: thats not comparable10:27
mgedminhmm, if I close the laptop's lid, LCD is not turned off10:27
jintonicwarty left a good impression on me despite having to install a new video card driver and setup x10:27
Vaportrailjintonic even on a windows machine u need to install video card drivers....10:28
ogramgedmin: hoary is derived from sid and then ubuntu bug get introduced additional to the debian bugs, so it is likely that it is far mor unstable then sid and likely to break in many places10:28
ograbugs even10:28
mgedminsounds exciting :)10:29
jintonicxp has a lot of drivers built-in though10:29
ogramgedmin: just to prepare you what is to come ;)10:29
jintonicif you use a nvidia or ati card its likely to work out of the box10:29
Vaportrailbut no 3d acceleration in built-in drivers :)10:29
ubuntuusernot an x80010:29
Vaportrail? huh, we ment winxp10:30
jintonicsome linux distros are almost there... knoppix is pretty much there10:30
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Amon-Raubuntu is superior to knoppix10:30
Amon-Raits that simple10:30
ubuntuuseryeah10:30
jintonicheh, okay10:30
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ubuntuuserit's the best i've tried so far10:31
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Amon-Rajintonic, have you installed ubuntu ?10:31
jintonicyou can't really compare them, one is meant more for system recovery, the other is made to be a desktop os10:31
krrhMight anyone know why my cpu fan runs constantly when booted into Ubuntu. Doesn't seem to run so much in Windows.10:31
jintonicyeah, i'm running it right now10:31
Amon-Rai run 3 boxes here on debian SID and 2 on ubuntu10:31
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Amon-Rathis box WAS running knoppix in a hdd install10:31
jintonicheh10:32
Cube-nessis it possible to do a net install of ubuntu?10:32
mgedminCube-ness, yes10:32
jintonicknoppix is great for its hardware support and automatic detection10:32
Amon-Rai find ubuntu very nice, ive given out 50 cds so far10:32
krrhForgive me if this is a silly question, but I haven't found the answer online, and the noise is killig me.10:32
Cube-nessmgedmin, how?10:32
mgedminthere's a howto on www.ubuntulinux.org10:32
Cube-nessah10:32
Amon-Rathe only problem i had was with citrix and i just fixed that10:32
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ubuntuuserwhat does the system monitor say?10:33
Amon-Raand im a windows network admin for a living so if i can work out ubuntu anyone can :P10:33
jintonici've only installed ubuntu on this machine so i can't say much for its hardware support... but knoppix autodetects everything on my machine, ubuntu doesn't10:33
krrhcpu use vollies between 3 and 15 percent.10:34
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ubuntuuserubuntu supported all my hardware no probs10:34
Amon-Rai found no issues10:34
ubuntuuserbut so did knoppix10:34
Amon-Radont get me started on fedora and hardware detection10:34
ubuntuusermaybe adjust fan speed in bios? or acpi prob?10:34
jintonichaven't tried fedora, never liked red hat10:34
Amon-Rai find fedora buggy10:35
ubuntuuseri got fc3 here too. it's more fiddly imho10:35
krrhOK, it's likely an ACPI issue. I've had to disable it at boot in order to get any precompiled kernel working.10:35
Amon-Rai found FC3 just wouldnt run on one machine, ubuntu ran fine10:35
ubuntuuseryeah maybe that's it10:35
krrhIf I don't disable it, the system reboots after decompressing the kernel.10:36
ubuntuusermaybe it needs boot time kernel option10:36
krrhAny resources for figuring out this ACPI problem?10:36
ubuntuuseracpi=off or summink?10:36
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ubuntuusertry updating the kernel10:37
crimsun"pci=noacpi"10:37
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krrhI use acpi=off. That's how I get the boot to move forward. Maybe running without ACPI keepss my fan running, though.10:37
Amon-Rahmm i have acpi off and dont have the problem10:37
Amon-Rawhat brand motherboard ?10:37
jintonicthere's no beating ubuntu install though, excellent... and the layout of the gui is nice... all that's left is to improve hardware detection a little bit and ubuntu just may become a word grandma knows10:38
krrhMicrostar. It's a real crapper.10:38
ubuntuuseryum is better in fc3 but apt/synaptic is niiice :)10:38
krrhIt's also causing some wicken AGP conflicts with my PCI video. I despise this board.10:38
Amon-Raapt rocks, i loved it from day one on potato and still do10:39
ubuntuuserand i like the social contract/philosphy rather than beta testing for redhat10:39
jintonicdefinately10:39
FallenHitokirihi. i need a groupware with an webinterface and the chance to sync it with evolution. someone an idea?10:40
jintonichrm... undefined reference to `std::cout' <-- std headers aren't included with g++?10:42
crimsunjintonic: do you have 'build-essential' installed?10:43
siretartjintonic: this rather looks like a linking problem due to uninstalled libstdc++5-dev package10:44
jintonicdidn't have it10:44
siretartjintonic: crimsun is btw right, just apt-get install build-essential10:45
jintonichrm, installed libstdc++5-dev, and build-essential, error's still there10:45
jintonicer... i thought gcc switched to c++ mode if the extension was cpp10:47
jintonicg++ works fine10:47
crimsunuse the correct compiler for the correct source ;)10:47
jintonicyeah, but i thought gcc linked to g++.. a lot of linux apps do stuff like that10:48
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crimsunjintonic: if those apps do, their Makefiles are clobbered.10:48
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siretartjintonic: there are quite a lot adidtional libraries beeing linked with c++ apps. link with g++ with option -v to get an idea how c++ would have to be called10:50
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siretartjintonic: conclusion: always link c++ apps with g++. much less pain10:50
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`anthonyso I've recently switched one of my boxes (running ubuntu) over to be the primary DNS/DHCP/&c server for my home network. It went from a DHCP client to a new fixed IP. Everything seems to work, except DNS. tcpdump shows that the requests are going off, and the responses are coming back, but the user-level applications aren't seeing the responses. this is after a reboot. any ideas where to look?10:53
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`anthonyThere doesn't appear to be anything logging these packets as being dropped, or whatever...10:54
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jintonichow is linux c/c++ development usually done? using plain text editors? IDEs?10:57
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nevynjintonic: linux development it'self?10:57
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nevynor development for linux?10:58
jintonicapp development using linux10:58
d3vic3jintonic, use Vi, Vim or Emacs10:58
nevynjintonic: it varies. there are a number of different things people use.10:58
d3vic3can olso use stuff like kate10:58
nevyneditor and shell and make by hand is common and what works for me.10:58
d3vic3or even kdevelp10:59
nevynKdevelop is like the visualC ide and has some nice features.10:59
jintonichow about for gui design?10:59
d3vic3kdevelop10:59
nevynjintonic: glade by hand but I havn't worked that out myself yet.10:59
d3vic3niceforgui10:59
nevynthere's also qtdesigner10:59
jintonicthats only for KDE though, isn't it?10:59
nevynjintonic: no.10:59
nevynwhat's only for kde?11:00
d3vic3qtdesigner is cool too11:00
jintonicKdevelop11:00
jintonicKDEvelop?11:00
nevyntheres also glade11:00
nevynjintonic: it's a kde application but you can develop whatever you like in it.11:01
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jintonichrm, so kde apps can work in gnome and vice-versa?11:04
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Ribsjintonic, if you have the required libraries installed, yet11:12
Ribsyes*11:12
Ribsgenerally, if you can find an application that works better in your enviroment, use it11:12
Ribsas KDE apps look very out of place on Gnome, and vice verse11:13
Ribsversa11:13
Ribsmy spelling sucks today11:13
jintonicno matter11:13
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bestadvocategood mornin/evnin all11:15
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`anthonynever mind previous problem - the gateway had a stale ARP cache entry.11:15
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NailllLhi11:16
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camhwhen I boot the warty live CD, /proc/mounts has sysfs listed twice. This is breaking firmware loading. Has anyone else had this problem? And how to fix?11:16
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bestadvocatesay is the warty live cd the exact same thing as the Gnoppix latest version?11:18
camhi haven't seen the gnoppix cd, but the ubuntu one has the ubuntu logo so I guess not.11:19
bestadvocatecause i know that gnoppix is based off ubuntu since its release11:19
bestadvocateplus rebranding hardly counts11:19
camhi know, but then its not *exact* :-)11:19
bestadvocatemy mestake :] 11:20
Amon-Raits not gnoppix11:20
Amon-Raits mepis11:20
Amon-Raboot the cd and look11:20
camhi think its morphix. I seem to recall it in the /proc/mounts list (the string "morphix")11:20
bestadvocateim not saying ubuntu is gnoppix im saying gnoppix has become ubuntu11:21
Amon-Raoh i see11:21
Amon-Raperhaps, havent looked11:21
Amon-Raive been using mepis as a recovery CD lately, very nice11:22
bestadvocatehey did you hear ubuntu finished 13 on distrowatch dispite only being on the list for 4 months of the year?11:22
Amon-Rai noticed11:22
Amon-Ramind you i dont think you can read much into distrowatch for reliable figures, those ratings are page hits to their site only after all11:23
bestadvocatei would probobly still be runing mandrake if i hadent become such a distrowatch junke11:23
HrdwrBoBI dunno11:23
HrdwrBoBI've been using debian for years11:23
HrdwrBoBubuntu came along11:23
Amon-Rayep me too11:23
HrdwrBoBit's 'Like Debian Only Better'11:24
Amon-Rapotato then woody then sarge then sid and now ubuntu11:24
bestadvocatei have never had a working debian system before ubuntu11:24
Amon-Rawelcome to the dark side :)11:24
bestadvocate:-O11:24
NailllLAmon-Ra: =)11:24
Amon-Ranow i have citrix working i can say this box is complete :)11:25
bestadvocateso among you long term debianers what do you think of the new installer?11:26
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tswnew?11:26
Amon-Ranew?11:26
crimsunthe one for sarge?11:26
bestadvocatefrom debian ... relatively .. yah for sarge11:26
Amon-Raits easier on newbies than the old one11:27
tswI dont like the partitioner on sarge11:27
NailllLnew???11:27
tswnew partitioner is too easy11:27
bestadvocatelol11:27
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NailllLrc2??? and daily is there some big difference?11:27
camhi like the partitioner on sarge. I can install on a raid (md) lvm setup quite easily.11:27
tswcamh: thats true.11:28
bestadvocatei have gotten the system installed with woody but i never got the startx to work11:28
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Amon-Ralol bestadvocate - youre not the only one to have that problem first time11:29
bestadvocatei think i may give it anther shot after finals, havent for about a year11:30
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bestadvocateits going to take 3 hours till i get my whory hedgehog updated11:31
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zombicswhen i am trying to ./configure sim i get this error: "checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0.2) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!"11:36
zombicswhat's the problem?11:36
NailllLbestadvocate: 3 hours???? whole ubuntu??? and..... how megas it have taken?11:36
bestadvocateits going at 12kbps11:37
NailllLbestadvocate: pliz count yourself11:38
bestadvocatecount myself?11:38
NailllL) bestadvocate:  no =)11:38
NailllL) bestadvocate: count how much megz ...11:38
NailllL) bestadvocate: my spelling sucks, but i don`t care11:39
bestadvocatewhatever mine gets much worse at times11:39
bestadvocateI'm just new age spellcheck dependent11:40
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NailllLbestadvocate: old gye???11:40
pybe-lappyis there a file that will run commands at boot, i think it was /etc/rc.local in fedora or somthing.11:41
stvnwhy is it that hoary takes such a long time to configure network interfaces on a laptop?11:41
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NailllLbestadvocate: i`m asking , because i`ve got hoary... and i think it should be updated....so i need to know how long will it take11:41
bestadvocatewell i havent update in about 2 months so your askin the wrong dude11:42
bestadvocateit was a couple hundred megabites for me11:42
bestadvocatei also use and update a lot of stuff from universe :] 11:43
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warty_hi11:44
NailllLQUESTION: how can i do the modules haven`t been  loaded at startup...... it loads cery big amount of them....so most of them i DONT NEED at all11:44
bestadvocatehi11:44
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NailllLbestadvocate: i see11:44
tuxJr_14hi11:44
warty_anybodz who nows how i install gnoppix on HD?11:44
warty_the last version11:45
warty_0.8.2.211:45
bestadvocateit doesnt give instructions on the cd somewhere?11:45
bestadvocatetry the website...11:45
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bestadvocateand installing ubuntu on the HD is basically the same thing11:45
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warty_allreadz have didnt get an answer11:45
bestadvocatesorry i havent used Gnoppix since they started to base it off warty11:46
warty_so should i try on the unbuntu website11:46
bestadvocatei doubt it11:46
bestadvocatebut give it a shot11:46
warty_mmm11:46
warty_ok i will thanks anyway11:46
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warty_bye11:46
bestadvocatesee ya11:47
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bestadvocatesay have they fixed that hoary bug that makes you lose menu items when you update via synaptic?11:50
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zombicshow can i installl flash player on abuntu(AMD64)11:53
zombicsthe one for macromedia dont supper x86_64 :\11:54
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bestadvocatei dont know i have the same problem :(11:56
bestadvocatetell me if you find out11:56
bestadvocateits all those basterds at macromedias fault!11:56
zombicsyea and thy dont realse the code :/ so were fucked antil thy will find time to do this11:58
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bestadvocatethey might not find it reasonable to ever do it, cause we are a monority of a minority, linux of amd of 64 bitters11:59
bestadvocatebut then again there were some hacks mentioned after i read enough, but most of it was people just saying they had cut-pasted such and such with inspecific instructions and gotten it to work, when i tried firefox started crashing randomly12:01
zombicsyea :/ thy dont realse shckwave player for linux so flash for AMD64? :\12:01
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bestadvocatewell time to do homework12:03
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zombicsi have a wierd problem with SIM-icq :/ while it connecting(i try to log in to my ICQ account) it just crashes :/12:08
zombicsthis is the output12:08
zombics13:06:30 [DBG]  Rosters12:08
zombics13:06:30 [DBG]  Ignore 13468737912:08
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tkzI have the following problem: Right-click on a file, choose "Open with other application". After I choose the application I want, system shows an error "could not add application to application database"12:11
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varahi12:11
tkzAny ideas how to fix?12:11
varai just installed ubuntu12:11
varaand when i try to boot windows xp12:11
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varait says filesystem not found =/12:12
NailllLvara: old problem12:12
varai havent found a solution in the ubuntu's docs12:12
NailllLvara: xp on hda1???12:12
varayep12:12
varain the first primary partition12:12
varantfs12:12
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NailllLyep... lilo or grub?12:13
varagrub12:13
varatitle           Windows XP12:13
vararoot            (hd0,0)12:13
vararootnoverify12:13
varamakeactive12:13
varachainloader +112:13
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NailllLe`... it`s better....cause i have this probl and only thing i could do is reformat HDD......12:14
vara:!!12:14
varai dont want to format again,12:14
varaif i had to i would format the boot partition12:14
varanoone has a solution for this problem?12:15
NailllLno......see... it`s not so easy ..... in my case...it wouldn`t boot even if i do that12:15
NailllLyou should ask smbd else12:16
vara:!12:16
varaand how did u manage to get ubuntu and windows at the same time?12:16
Ensiferumupon booting i dont want to have x started automatically. how do i change that? (it's somewhere in inittab, isnt it?)12:16
varamaybe i did smthing wrong in the installation12:16
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jdubEnsiferum: apt-get remove gdm :-)12:17
jdubEnsiferum: ubuntu doesn't work the same way as red hat in that regard12:17
Ensiferumjdub: i'm a bit confused. what exactly is the purpose of the gnome display manager?12:18
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jdubEnsiferum: it manages the login screen and the X displays12:19
varahi,when i try to boot windows xp12:19
varait says filesystem not found =/12:19
varaanyone has a solution?12:19
tkzvara: is the windows hd set on LBA mode from bios?12:20
varadunno12:21
varaits set to auto i think12:21
Ensiferumjdub: so is gdm in fact responsible for staring X, or is it still in runlevel scripts. (or am i totally off)12:21
tkzvara: it should be on LBA. Mine was on auto too and it didn't work12:21
varatkz bios crashed after trying to boot windows xp12:21
varaim going to try it12:22
Ensiferumvara: does your system start to boot? have you tried booting up with a floppy and inspecting the window's file system?12:22
tkzvara: change the setting to LBA (only for your windows drive) and see if it boots then12:22
Vaportrailnever seen a bios crash12:22
varait didnt "crahs", it fall back to defaults12:22
Vaportrailah k :)12:22
varaxd12:22
varai dont speek english very well12:23
tkzAny idea how ot fix my problem with the application database?12:23
tkz I have the following problem: Right-click on a file, choose "Open with other application". After I choose the application I want, system shows an error "could not add application to application database"12:24
jdubEnsiferum: gdm is just kicked off by an init script, and it in turn starts x12:27
Vaportrailhmm12:27
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varatkz, it stills doesnt works12:28
varait says Auto=LBA Disabled=LBA disabled12:28
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Ensiferumjdub: oki. thanks!12:28
tkzvara: you should enable LBA mode12:28
varai set it to auto and windows gave me the error file system not found again 0x7 pr smthig12:29
jintonichow do i uninstall the mail server ubuntu sets up?12:29
varatkz i cant "enable" it says that auto means enabled12:29
tkzvara: ok... don't know how to help you then12:29
tkz I have the following problem: Right-click on a file, choose "Open with other application". After I choose the application I want, system shows an error "could not add application to application database"12:30
vara:(12:30
Vaportrailis ubuntu able to write on ntfs partitions?12:30
tswno12:31
Vaportrailk, linux in general isn't or is it?12:31
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jintonicpostfix is the stmp server ubuntu sets up, right?12:32
tswntfs write support is experimental and the best way to brake your ntfs partition12:32
jdubjintonic: yes12:32
varaif u apreciate the data in your ntfs partitions you better not enable it at kernel level Vaportrail12:32
Vaportrailk, would make me a linux-only user, so why not brake it :P12:32
tsw:)12:32
jintonicwhat the hell, i cant uninstall postfix without uninstalling ubuntu-base?12:33
KonliedHi I ma in the install process and I was wondering how to span root over my 2 hard drives.. I had the option to erase either disk or should I have chosen 'manually edit the partition table'?12:33
jdubjintonic: nup, ubuntu-base is the metapackage that depends on it.12:34
jintonic:-/12:34
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jintonicwell how can i at least make it stop listening? (not in a cheap way like a firewall rule)12:35
Ensiferumjdub: actually removing gdm wasnt such a good idea. it got me to shell yeah, but then i couldnt start x anymore (with startx). got a buch of errors i dont care to dissect.12:35
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jdubEnsiferum: hrm, startx should work properly - can you paste the errors?12:36
Ensiferumjdub: anyway, rather the problem is that i'm tweaking my X settings to get the mouse working the way I like. Is there way to easily restart X, so i dont have to boot everytime i change XF86Config-412:36
Ensiferumjdub: now, i cant anymore.12:36
jdubjintonic: it won't accept mail from public interfaces12:36
huttanEnsiferum, ctrl+alt+backspace12:36
VaportrailEnsiferum: is it a razer one?12:36
EnsiferumVaportrail: huh?12:37
Ensiferummouse?12:37
Vaportrailyup12:37
Ensiferumno, logitech mx70012:37
Ensiferumi had the scroll/thumb buttons working in firefox12:37
jdubjintonic: (see /etc/postfix/master.cf)12:37
Vaportrailk, only asking because I got a problem with my Razer DiamondBack and its 1600 dpi under linux its kind a crazy12:37
Ensiferumbut i want to have them working in nautilus/and such too12:37
Konliedeh.. can anyone guide me through the partitioning stage?12:38
Ensiferumhuttan: thanks mate!12:38
Vaportrailis it possible to handle .bin .cue files under linux?12:38
crimsunVaportrail: bchunk, vcdgear, cdrdao, ...12:39
Vaportrailluv ya :P12:39
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KonliedHooray for virtual drives12:39
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huttanEnsiferum, :)12:41
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KonliedCan anyone in this support channel walk me through partitioning? I have 2 drives..12:42
tkzHow do you want the drives to be set up?12:43
KonliedI'd like to span / across them so they are treated as one drive. There are (40+20) Gigs, but I need about 55 Gb in one directory. Odd eh12:44
tkzOk, I have no idea how to do that12:44
fabbioneKonlied: you have 2 options12:44
zombicsi have a wierd problem with SIM-icq :/ while it connecting(i try to log in to my ICQ account) it just crashes :/12:45
zombicsthis is the output12:45
Konlied'treated as one drive' is a bit of a misnomer. More like one directoru12:45
zombics13:06:30 [DBG]  Rosters12:45
zombics13:06:30 [DBG]  Ignore 13468737912:45
fabbioneKonlied: you can either use a raid012:45
fabbioneKonlied: or use lvm212:45
fabbioneKonlied: and you can do that directly at installation time12:45
Konliedah.. I understand RAID need hardware, but what about LVM?12:45
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fabbioneKonlied: no. there is software raid that works as good as the hardware one12:46
fabbionein your specific case lvm is almost the same as using raid12:46
KonliedGreat. At what point can I set these up?12:46
fabbionewhat i would do is:12:46
fabbionecreate a / parition of like 4G12:46
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fabbionea swap partition of whatever amount you need12:47
fabbioneand the rest in lvm12:47
fabbioneKonlied: when partitioner is started12:47
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fabbioneyou need to tell it that you want manual parititions12:47
KonliedBrilliant, I'm on the partitioner screen now.12:47
fabbionefrom there it is pretty simple12:47
KonliedWhich method woudl you recommend - LVM or RAID?12:47
fabbioneKonlied: i would go for lvm, but that's my personal choise12:48
fabbionelvm is a bit more complicated to setup12:48
fabbionebut it gives more flexibility12:48
Konliedin which respects?12:48
fabbionefor eg: if in 2 months you add another disk, you can "join" it to what you already have and grow your partitions12:49
fabbionewith raid that becomes more complex12:49
fabbioneif not impossible12:49
tswI have one gig filesystem file (made with dd if=/dev/null of=image...) is there some way to increase the size (without reformatting) ?12:49
KonliedI see. Of course for more than 2 discs you'd be looking to get a raid controller in most cases (darn motherboards!)12:49
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fabbioneKonlied: not at all12:50
fabbioneKonlied: i have 8 IDE disks on my box12:50
fabbioneand they run on a combinantion of differen raids12:50
fabbionewith lvm on top12:50
fabbione(the 2 can be combined)12:50
KonliedAhh. How many IDE channels?12:50
fabbione412:50
fabbioneon 2 controllers12:50
fabbioneit's not THE FASTEST machine in the world..12:51
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fabbioneit's a storage system for me :-)12:51
KonliedWow. That's what I'd like to do when I get the money. 250Gb*8   =)12:51
fabbionemine is 120*6 + 60*2 :-)12:51
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KonliedHow much of that is free??12:52
fabbionenot much12:52
Konliedlol12:52
fabbioneFree  PE / Size       91 / 364 MB12:52
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fabbionethis is at lvm layer..12:53
fabbioneat fs layer i think about 80GB are free12:53
huttanCan someone help me fix my eog ?12:53
Konliedto go back to waht you said earlier, I just set up a / and a swap part, then select LVM for the rest?12:54
fabbioneKonlied: kinda.. yes12:54
huttanI can open the program...but once I wanna open a picture I get this error: ** (eog:7692): CRITICAL **: file pango-color.c: line 952 (pango_color_parse): assertion `spec != NULL' failed12:54
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fabbioneKonlied: what you do is create a third partition on the first disk12:54
fabbioneand one partition on the second one12:54
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fabbioneonce you have done that you go to setup the LVM12:55
fabbioneit will ask you to add "PG"12:55
shmoolikhello how can i find a path to a program12:55
shmoolik?12:55
fabbioneand you will select these 2 partitions12:55
fabbioneKonlied: than it will ask to create a VG where to add PG12:55
tswshmoolik: find / -name <name of the executable> -print12:55
flodinhow can i copy a directory excluding all the "hidden" files? (i.e. the ones that begin with '.')12:55
tswshmoolik: or locate <name of the exevutable>12:56
fabbioneKonlied: and after that it will ask you to create the "visible" partition to the system12:56
Josipdamn apache12:56
Josipi've installed it with synaptic (apache2)12:56
tswshmoolik: or which <name of the executable>12:56
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Josipit hasn't got the mod_rewrite module12:56
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shmooliktsw,  i don't know the name of the executable program i just know the package name (    its gmoo )12:56
Josipfind / -name mod_rewrite.so12:56
fabbioneKonlied: i don't remember 100% if it asks for the PG, but for sure it does from the VG12:56
Josipgave me the result12:56
Josipbut , when i add the lines to apache2.conf i get Invalid command 'AddModule', perhaps mis-spelled or defined by a module not included in the server configuration12:56
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tswJosip: apache2 has different module loading options12:57
Konliedforgot how big should the swap partition be?12:58
tswJosip: check /etc/apache2/modules-available and modules-installed12:58
Josipi know those directories12:58
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Josipi shall move the module there ?12:58
fabbioneKonlied: that's up to you... how much ram do you have on the system?12:58
Konlied128Mb12:58
fabbioneKonlied: and i guess we are talking about i386 or higher...12:58
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Konliedyeah12:59
__danielhai12:59
fabbioneKonlied: than i would do something like 512M12:59
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tswshmoolik: have you tried "gmoo"?12:59
__danielhow do i get the debian menus in current hoary again?12:59
tswJosip: I think symlink is enough12:59
shmoolikyeah12:59
crimsun__daniel: you need 'menu' and 'menu-xdg' installed12:59
shmoolik"command not found"12:59
Josipln you mean , right :-)12:59
__danielcrimsun: i do have those installed12:59
fabbioneKonlied: usually it is RAM*4 for RAM < 256M, RAM*2 for 256 < RAM < 1GB01:00
Konliedfabbione: Do you think maybe 4Gb for / is amybe too much? Maybe 2 or 301:00
fabbioneKonlied: than it goes in fractions down to 1/4 of ram01:00
crimsun__daniel: did you log out and back in?01:00
tswshmoolik: http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?searchmode=filelist&word=gmoo&version=stable&arch=i38601:00
__danielcrimsun: i have them installed for ages01:00
fabbioneKonlied: it depedns from you... but a minimum of 2GB is reccomended01:00
__danielcrimsun: ah ok...   update-menus    did the trick01:00
fabbioneKonlied: you will not regret it later.. trust me01:00
KonliedI think I can stop interrogating you now :)01:01
Konliedthankyou!01:01
fabbioneno ... actually you already trust me.. in other ways....01:01
fabbionebut you do.. even if you don't know that yet :)01:01
Konliedyeah, I'm a sucker ;)01:01
crimsunfabbione's got the sekrit backdoors installed in the kernel ;)01:01
shmooliktsw, thanks01:02
Josipit works without the addmodule line01:02
TheMusoo/quit01:04
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bunglehey01:05
bunglequestion about harware on a g3 ibook01:05
bunglecan I plug an external usb dvd burner into it01:06
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jdubbungle: you ought to be able to (not sure about dvd burning support over usb though, but cd should be ok)01:06
tswJosip: there is a script that checks that folder and loads everything in it (same goes for vhosts :)01:06
tkz I have the following problem: Right-click on a file, choose "Open with other application". After I choose the application I want, system shows an error "could not add application to application database"01:07
bunglejdub I am just running osx 10.3.? on it01:07
tkzAny idea how to fix that?01:08
bungleso hopefully it should be supported I ma looking it up now though01:08
jdubbungle: you're running  os x? then i have no idea01:08
aToasterI'm trying to install JDK and I want it to go into the system, but the self extracting binary only seems to extract into the local directory, the documentation doesn't seem to tell me how to do this, any ideas?01:10
KonliedIs is possible to set samba up to allow access to directories outside of /home/~user01:11
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kezzbungle, tried #macosx?01:12
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aToasterdang, this shouldn't be so hard to install01:16
jintonichow can i tell if linux is connecting to my ipod in usb1/2 mode?01:16
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tkzjintonic: go to Computer->System configuration->Device manager01:18
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jintonicits calling my usb 2.0 controller a usb 1.0 controller...01:19
tkzjintonic: on my computer I see both 1 and 2 controller. Find the ipod and see the USB tab. I think there you'll see which type it uses for the connection01:20
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jintonicdoesnt that just say the ipod is 2.0?01:22
tkzI've got two machines here. On my own I can connect MP3 players and they open up on the desktop. The other machine does not seem to notice the players at all even though USB barcode reader works just fine. Any ideas?01:23
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SirFredHI.01:24
SirFredHow can I add a new menu entry on Hoary ?01:24
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SirFredIt used to be a way to do this on Warty, right clicking on a menu item, but it's gone on Hoary.01:25
SirFredAnd another question, how could I know if hibernating my laptop is supported?01:25
jintonicnot a significant draw of voltage... some conflict with the hotplug software and the driver/hardware... just conjecture, i know very little of linux01:26
stvnSirFred: put the proper .desktop file in /usr/share/applications and do update-desktop-database01:26
Ensiferumw00t. got my mx700 mouse to work really nice now. thumb buttons (back/frwd) work and wheel works too. \o/01:26
SirFredstvn: So, there's not a, let's call friendly way.01:26
tkzjintonic: the voltage is ruled out by the fact that the MP3 player connects on that machine when Windows is running. I'll look into the hotplug thing01:27
stvnSirFred: don't know really, i think they're working on it01:27
aToasteris there a howto for that Ensiferum?01:27
SirFredstvn: I expect so, because it's a feature that's gone.01:28
SirFredPerhaps they're giving it a new and fresh focus.01:28
EnsiferumaToaster: there are few docs on the net. none of them worked for me though. they had a few mistakes.01:29
aToasterEnsiferum, I've got the mx1000 and have been dying for a way for the back button to go back on pages in firefox01:30
EnsiferumaToaster: the mx100 probably works with the same settings as i have01:31
Ensiferumi have mx70001:31
Ensiferumno wait, did mx1000 have more buttons?01:31
Vaportrailonly the tilt wheel01:32
Vaportrailor?01:32
SirFredThe automount feature is not working on Hoary for my laptop since a pair of weeks.01:32
aToasterI believe only tilt wheel01:32
Ensiferumi had some serious trouble getting this stuff to work, since i didnt fully get the whole sequence of events. also some doc told that logging off/on X would reload the X settings. that is untrue.01:32
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SirFredIs that a known issue, are you having the same experience?01:33
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VaportrailEnsiferum: Strg+Alt+Backspace would reload XF86Config or xorg.conf01:33
EnsiferumVaportrail: yeah, i know it now..01:33
Konliedq: does ubuntu carry kde or not?01:34
Vaportrailah k :P01:34
EnsiferumVaportrail: didnt know it last night :] 01:34
Vaportraildidn't know it 2 month ago :P01:34
aToasterargh, I wish apt-get was as extensive as emerge, all the programs that I want aren't on there, J2RE, Eclipse, Anjuta, Videolan...01:34
Ensiferumwith slackware i didnt use gdm01:34
Ensiferumi logging onto a shell and did startx01:34
Ensiferumso it was obvious back then as to when X settings are loaded01:35
SirFredaToaster: Is videolan the same than vlc ?01:35
VaportrailSirFred: yup vlc = videolan client01:35
SirFredaToaster: So, it's on universe repository.01:36
Konliedis kde on ubuntu?01:36
SirFredaToaster: At least on Hoary, just now.01:36
tkzaToaster: i installed anjuta with apt-get. Maybe you need universe repository01:36
VaportrailKonlied not on warty, but on hoary01:36
Vaportrailno it is on warty or?01:36
Konliedanything witout kde gets my vote automatically :)01:36
Vaportraildunno, its not supported01:36
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aToastertkz really? I did the universe rep thing and it still doesn't show up01:37
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SirFredaToaster: Did you update after adding that repository entrie?01:37
Vaportrailand multiverse?01:37
SirFredaToaster: I mean the reload button on Synaptic or just apt-get update01:38
SirFredWhat's the difference between multiverse and universe?01:38
tkzIs there a way to get apt-get to show from which repository a given piece of SW came from?01:38
Vaportrailmultiverse got some additional "packages"01:39
SirFredtkz: With apt-cache show <packagename>01:39
aToasterSirFred, still nothing01:39
SirFredtkz: You see something like:01:39
SirFredFilename: pool/universe/v/vlc/vlc_0.8.1-1_i386.deb01:39
SirFredaToaster: So, if you type 'apt-cache search vlc' you got nothing?01:39
aToasternope01:40
flodinhow can i copy a directory excluding all the "hidden" files? (i.e. the ones that begin with '.')01:40
SirFredaToaster: And you made 'apt-get update' before, don't you?01:42
SirFredI see acroread, for example, is in multiverse01:42
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kentflodin, i thought the hidden files would get copied if you just copy the directory? For example, in the desktop, select the directory, and choose copy.  Dont that work? (that is, dont select all the files in the dir, select the directory)01:43
aToasterSirFred, ahh ok, think I got it now, with synaptic I had to enable it in the rep options... didn't look at that, just did it manually for apt01:43
aToasterBut anjuta still doesn't show01:44
tkzChecked... my anjuta came from universe01:44
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tkzaToaster: type "sudo apt-get update" and then try again01:45
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flodinkent: yes, what i'm saying is i want to exclude certain files01:47
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Adrenalafter editing visudo01:47
Adrenalhow do i save it?01:47
Adrenalsave changes that is01:48
SirFredHumm, there's a mplayer on multiverse.01:48
aToasterahh holy cow it works01:48
aToasterthanks guys01:48
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SirFredI think I'm going to dump the debian-marillat repository to use this multiverse thing.01:48
aToastercedega on the apt rep?01:49
tkzaToaster: just remember to update from time to time before searching for software or updates :)01:49
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kentflodin, oh, i thought you *wanted* to have the hidden files. sorry about that.  Then id think that selecting only all the files in a dir will copy only them and not the hidden once..01:49
aToasterah well I thought I did, but I think it was because I had synaptic open at the same time, it couldn't update or something01:49
Adrenalhow do i save changes to visudo then close the program?01:50
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flodinkent: yeah i'm looking more for something at large scale. Think the order of 2000 files01:50
tkzDoes anyone know where to get the w32codes package? Debian-marilat just complains that only 2 connections is allowed per IP and doesn't let me download it01:50
flodinbut i think i found something in zsh that might work01:50
aToasterso how do I find stuff on the apt rep?01:52
tkzaToaster: with synaptic you just type the name to the search tool01:53
kezzheh i broke my synaptic01:54
aToasterI mean is there a way to do it cl?01:54
tkzapt-get search01:55
tkzsorry01:55
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aToasterthanks =)01:55
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tkzapt-get search doesn't seem to work... i remember there was somethin like that???01:57
hannes__ja paljon enemmn kuolee muualla01:57
hannes__whoops01:57
hannes__wrong window01:57
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tkzhannes__: wrong window? "Vr ikuna" :D01:58
hannes__yep01:58
hannes__exactl :D01:58
hannes__+y01:58
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aToasterhrmm, does anjuta highlight like... scintella does?02:00
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aToasterahh ok, needed to save it first02:01
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aToasterI'm new to programming on linux, where would the standard C/C++ libraries be in linux?02:03
kezzlibc02:03
da_bon_bonif u need a compiler just use gcc02:03
kezzaToaster, you need to sudo apt-get install build-essential02:03
aToasterhave done it, just want to know where they are located02:04
wartyHi, I need some help using warty live02:04
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wartyI am using it now, BUT I have difficultz with the video setup02:05
da_bon_bonwarty: video as in ? mpg files or something lese ?02:06
Ensiferumplease read and comment: http://www.student.oulu.fi/~savaisan/stuff/mx700.txt02:06
Ensiferum:)02:06
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wartyI cannot change the resolution of the desktop. It is set at 640.480 and 100 MHz. No other possibilities.02:06
da_bon_bonok.02:07
wartyDuring boot I am also asked to choose a video mode from a lost of 7 possibilities. I am uisng a new DELL Optiplex02:07
aToastermmm... I think I'm gonna like anjuta =D02:07
KonliedI like anjuta too, but bluefish is where it's at for php and the like02:08
Konliedgreat interface02:08
Vaportraildoes anjuta have (dunno right english word) code collapse?02:09
aToasterif only I can get eclipse working02:10
wartyDoes anyone know what I need to do to be able to change the resolution in ubuntu?02:10
Ensiferumwarty: what drivers have you got?02:10
wartyI have the drivers that are on the ubuntu warty live CD.02:11
Ensiferumwhat's the graphics card then?02:11
Ensiferumis the monitor probing succesful?02:11
Ensiferumyou can see all that crap in XF86config file02:11
aToasteralright well, thanks for all the help guys! I'm off to sleep02:12
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wartyAnother symptom: When I switch to a terminal and enter a command like ping ipnr I can not stop it with Ctrl C or Ctrl X.  Als, I cannot see the last lines of n the termonal and have to enter the command blind.02:13
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wartyMonitor probing... I am using the ubuntu on the monitor now.02:13
wartyI will liik in the log file02:13
Konliedwarty: for the second problem its likely you need to fiddle with your monitor a bit, I know I do02:14
flodingrrr02:14
flodinglobbing just isn't enough for recursive copying02:14
YorHelhelp! I can't enable DMA on my IDE drives, hdparm -d1 /dev/hda gives me "HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted"02:15
flodineven with recursive globbing, cp will just try to put all the files in the same dir02:15
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KonliedYorHel: upgrade firmware?02:15
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wartyLost contact. Now I am back. Sorrz02:15
YorHelKonlied: firmware? :$02:16
jintonici get this error when i try to run tux racer: Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".02:16
YorHelwell, I know I need to load a module in the kernel, but I dont know which module...02:16
YorHelfor an intel IDE controller02:17
Konliedah, you could go to BIOS (press F1 or delete on startup) and identify the IDE controller that way02:17
YorHelhmm, isn't it OS-specific, since windows has DMA enabled...02:18
Konliedfrom thereon just google :)02:18
jintonic:-/ i don't think i've ever seen a bios that states what specific hardware it has on the motherboard02:18
KonliedYorHel: not always. It depends on wther the HW will allow it02:19
KonliedMine does. Beside I just look tings up according to serial numbers on google.02:19
jintonicwhat motherboard?02:20
YorHelbut err... the bios knows exactly what IDE controller I use...02:20
YorHelI think...02:21
YorHelwhatever, ill have a look @ the bios :)02:21
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wartyI tried to move the menu bar at the top of the desktop to clp to access the clos window button and now the meunbar is on the right side of the desktop andhas huge, and I mean HUGE icons which cover the right quarter of the desktop so I cannot see what I am typing untill ist is hald waz across the screen. I cannot seem to be able to move the menu bar. How do I dothat_02:21
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Konliedwarty: rightclick the 'menubar' (it's called a panel), select 'preferences', select panel position.02:23
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KonliedYou can also chane the size of the panel from that dialog02:24
Konliedchane=change02:24
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wartyI cannot find a place on the panel to right click that will give me perferences. I see a footprint, @Applications@ @Computer and then t 1&2 HUGE icons for Evolution, HELP, Moyilla Frifox. But when I rightg click on these all., I get properties for the icon & program and not for the panel.02:26
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YorHelgrr, bios doesn't give me any info...02:29
kentwarty, one solution would to either remove those icons on the panel to get free space to click at,  or to press ALT+F1 and login as the user, and remove the ".gnome2" directory in your home.  All the settings are hidden there, so that will make it go back to normal again. But please ask some one else first, becaus im not 100% sure, and dont want to mess up your computer.02:30
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kentwarty, if you dont know how to delete the icons and get them back manually, i would have deleted the .gnome2 directory, since then you will get all back.02:30
wartyOK, now after I removed all the icons I could see, I was able to find the emptz space where I could click on preferences adn make the changes. Ok, now back to the originasl problem.02:31
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kentwarty, and what was the main problem?02:33
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wartyThe main problem was that I cannot change the resolutino for the desktop. It is stuck at 640x480 and 100 Hz. Also in the console the comand line is off the bottom of the screen.  At boot up I am asked to choose a mode for the video. Nothing seems to help.02:36
YorHelok, short question: lspci says that I as IDE controller: "0000:00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) Ultra ATA 100 Storage Controller (rev 02)" - what kernel module do I need to load to enable DMA?02:36
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kentwarty, if you go to the system settings and choose Screen resolution in the menu (im not sure of the names, i run Hoary now and i think they changed some names.) do you have other resolutions to change to, or only that one?02:37
wartyno, only that one resolution02:38
kentwarty, if you have no other resolutions, then perhaps you can edit the XF86-Config file in /etc/X11 and add some resolutions? Its proably hard for you, but i think that might help.02:38
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wartyI am booting from a live cd to test things. A change there will not last for the next reboot.02:39
wartyI need a solutioin that I can use at boot time.02:39
kentwarty, ok, but then try to edit that file, and then restart the X-server (press CTRL+ALT-Backspace)02:40
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Guardianngood morning everyone02:40
ZzeCoOlmorning?02:40
Guardiannyep02:40
ZzeCoOlhere it is 15:4002:40
ZzeCoOl:>02:40
Guardiann8:4002:40
mojomorn02:40
ZzeCoOlohhh02:40
mojon02:41
mojog02:41
ZzeCoOl8:40 where?02:41
Guardiannontario canada  and you02:41
ZzeCoOlGreece02:41
ZzeCoOl:>02:41
Guardiannwow02:41
ZzeCoOlgoodmorning then02:41
ZzeCoOl:P02:41
Guardiann:)02:41
ZzeCoOlfunny things can happen in irc02:42
ZzeCoOl:)02:42
Guardianni am liking Ubuntu i think more and more02:42
ZzeCoOlhehe ubuntu rocks02:42
Guardiannyeah funny like hmmm a headache :)02:42
ZzeCoOlbut i have big ATi problem02:42
Guardiannyeah it sure seems to02:42
mojoGreets.  M havin probs with realplayer... methinks it is problem w/ sending sound to wrong 'card'.  only have my Audigy2 hooked up but the installer also recognized my mobo soundchip.  Helix site sux 4 help.  ne1 know how to config rplayer or change default for /dev/dsp output?02:42
wartyWhich XF86Config file?  XF86Config, XF86Config/4, XF86Config.in, or XF86Config/4.in  ?02:42
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kezzXF86Config02:43
Guardianni am using xine so am not sure02:43
ZzeCoOlthe first one probably warty02:43
Guardiannhello kezz02:43
mojoubuntu almost rocks but it won't let me use my 250gb SATA drive and that's a big bummer (and my other prob bsides the rplayer issue)02:43
kezzhi Guardiann02:43
Guardiannkezz thanks for the help the last couple days02:44
wartyXF86Config is a big file. How and where do I add resolutions to it?02:44
Ensiferummojo: what chipset have you got?02:44
kezzGuardiann, no problem02:44
kezzwarty: i think you need to edit the Monitor section02:45
mojoi am runnin the nforce3-250 chipset (msi k9n neo2 platinum mobo).  sata is nvidia and audio (i think) is realtek on mobo... but i wanna use the audigy02:45
mojops - audigy2 works fine for xmms and such... just cant get rplayer to use it.02:45
Guardianndo you know why the option of being able to log into gdm as root is disabled02:45
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ZzeCoOlwarty......EndSubSection02:46
ZzeCoOl        SubSection "Display"02:46
ZzeCoOl                Depth           2402:46
ZzeCoOl                Modes           "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"02:46
ZzeCoOl        EndSubSection02:46
Ensiferummojo: http://www.linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html02:46
ZzeCoOlsomething look this02:46
wartyIs this a usual problem? If so, then it is a verz difficult live CD.  I have not had this problem with Knmoppix on this computer.02:46
ZzeCoOllocate it and add...resolutions02:46
mojoregarding sata - ppls have told me to use kernel 2.6.10 which is not one of those avail. from ubuntu so i have to, like, learn how to build my own kernel i guess?  or can i just find and build upgraded modules???  (am new to that schtuff)02:46
jdubGuardiann: because a) root is disabled in ubuntu and b) you should NOT be logging in to your desktop as root EVER02:46
ZzeCoOljdub: why NOT?02:47
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Ensiferummojo: you're gonna have some hard time ahead of you :|02:47
ZzeCoOlGuardiann: you can open root acc by typing sudo passwd02:47
jdubZzeCoOl: running every desktop process as root is a recipe for disaster (unsafe), and entirely insecure02:47
Guardiannjdub yeah I know but the person running it should have the choice02:47
jdubGuardiann: you have the choice to change the gdm configuration file02:48
wartyI located it and opened it in an editor. The font is HUGE, becauseof the bir resolutioin. Where do I add resoluitons?02:48
GuardiannzzeCool you can also enable it to be able to open if you want it02:48
jdubGuardiann: but it is *not* a sane thing to do02:48
ZzeCoOlinsecure my ass......if you dont run any service and your pc is a HOME pc then there is no problem02:48
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jdubZzeCoOl: your web browser is running as root02:48
Guardiannjdub i didnt say it was. I was simply asking a question02:48
jdubZzeCoOl: your java applets are running as root02:48
jdubZzeCoOl: random j. application you download (from apt or anywhere else) is running as root02:49
ZzeCoOlyes ok but i dont have any port forwarded to this machine....by  my router02:49
jdubZzeCoOl: this means you are completely unprotected from anything that app may choose to do, nefarious or stupid02:49
Guardiannso relax and take a breath :)02:49
kezzjdub, java applets running as root aren't too bad02:49
jdubZzeCoOl: dude, ports don't matter02:49
mojoEnsiferum: thx for the link... think i actually been there though.  Garzicks pages didn't help me much knowing how to add/replace/update the nv_sata portion or even know if i can w/o recompiling stuff.02:49
kezzas long as their applets02:49
ZzeCoOlok02:49
ZzeCoOlno problem02:49
jdubZzeCoOl: it's nothing to do with remote access to your machine02:49
tkzIs there a way to add supported printers to the "add new printer" database? It doesn't seem to support Epson CX520002:50
jdubZzeCoOl: consider a firefox exploit that allowed an attacker to write to random files on the disk simply by displaying a web page (there have been many holes like this in IE)02:50
jdubZzeCoOl: running as a user, it couldn't do much02:50
mojoI did talk in #debian and there is a guy there using nforce3-250 sata successfully but i didn't get much more info... they were all tellin me i was off topic because i have a ubuntu install not debian02:50
ZzeCoOljdub: you have to know that ...you can just use an exploits against a service..... if there is no service running at all ...then what i have to afraid?02:51
mojoso i never got to find out which kernel or libata/nv_sata versions he was usin.  'least i know it *can* work.  meh.02:51
jdubZzeCoOl: the service is your web browser, running as root02:51
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jdubZzeCoOl: it's nothing to do with open ports or daemons02:51
ZzeCoOlyes but it isnt accesable from outside02:51
Guardiannjdub is there away of starting k3b without being root02:51
ZzeCoOlthat im trying to tell you02:51
jdubZzeCoOl: yes it absolutely is -> you are downloading insecure information from the internet all the time02:51
jdubGuardiann: sudo k3b02:52
Guardiannyeah i know but is there another way02:52
jdubGuardiann: why would you need another way?02:52
Guardiannas in from an icon on a desktop02:52
wartyCan anzone help me to find the cause that I havew only one very large resolution. I am using ubuntu live cd.02:52
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jdubZzeCoOl: running everything as root means your machine is entirely susceptible to any kind of security hole in local apps that download unknown data (from the network)02:53
jdubGuardiann: make an icon that runs gksudo k3b02:53
Guardiannah thanks02:53
YorHelbleh... *feels ignored*02:54
lifelessZzeCoOl: did someone tell you that you had to be accessible from the outside to be at risk ?02:54
jdubthis is why so many people think linspire is a terrible, terrible joke :-)02:54
kentZzeCoOl, Your turning your computer into as insecure as windows. Its very bad, when people actually have put time into making it secure for you.02:54
jdubit ends up being worse than windows02:54
lifelessZzeCoOl: cause if they did, they lied to you.02:54
Guardiannguys i didnt mean to start a war it was a simple question02:54
ZzeCoOljdub: you are a little bit confused........ open a console and then tryu sudo nautilus...when nautilus start open a second console and type ps -aux ...as u can see when using sudo root is the one opening tha appl02:54
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jdubGuardiann: you didn't start one ;)02:54
YorHelshort question: lspci says that I as IDE controller: "0000:00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) Ultra ATA 100 Storage Controller (rev 02)" - what kernel module do I need to load to enable DMA?02:55
jdubZzeCoOl: yes, you are running nautilus as root.02:55
jdubZzeCoOl: don't do that.02:55
ZzeCoOlo god02:55
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ZzeCoOlthere are many things that you are running by deafault at boot or .... as root02:56
ZzeCoOlps -aux ....is your answer02:56
jdubZzeCoOl: very few on ubuntu, we've done quite a bit of work on that :-)02:56
jdubZzeCoOl: and never an entire desktop02:56
wartyCan anzone explane to run unbuntu with a diffewrent resolution?02:56
jdub(i mean, dude, consider the fact that you can't log in as root on ubuntu...)02:56
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jdubwarty: run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree8602:57
wartyI am using warty live cd. Will that work there too?02:57
Guardiannjdub it works great thanks02:57
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jdubwarty: oh; not sure.02:57
ZzeCoOljdub: the one that considering me is ATi 3.14.6 drivers that there is no way to load them02:58
ZzeCoOlall the others ...02:58
ZzeCoOleven if someone gor root my box there is no problem02:58
wartyThe resolution on the console is such that I cannot see the command line where I am typing.02:58
Guardiannthis channel is growing :)02:59
ZzeCoOl:02:59
ZzeCoOl:P02:59
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jdubZzeCoOl: what do the ati drivers have to do with this?02:59
Guardianndamm i hate the snow02:59
ZzeCoOli love it03:00
ZzeCoOl:>03:00
ZzeCoOlim a snowboarder03:00
ZzeCoOl:>03:00
Guardiannyou can have all of mine03:00
ZzeCoOlhahaha03:00
Guardiannsupposed to be another 15 cm here today03:00
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ZzeCoOlwow03:01
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wartyRunning dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86. It asks for desired x server driver. Which is desirable?03:01
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Guardiannwarty i am not sure or I would answer you03:01
mgedminwarty: xserver-xorg is newer03:01
jdubmgedmin: it's not on the warty livecd...03:01
jdubwarty: what kind of video card do you have?03:02
ZzeCoOlis there anyone that can help me with ATi03:02
mgedminoh, right03:02
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jdubZzeCoOl: read the restricted hardware page on the wiki03:02
ZzeCoOljdub: i allready did this03:02
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ZzeCoOleven the rage 3d guide03:02
lexhidererv identify SeXxY7!03:02
kezzheh03:03
ZzeCoOljdub: i dont know anyone that manage to install properly ATi's 3.14.6 in ubuntu ....im strarting considering that it is ubuntu  problem03:03
kezzchange ur pass lexhider03:03
jdubZzeCoOl: use the drivers provided03:03
lexhiderI know, I know, what a mofo.03:03
ZzeCoOlok ....yeahhhh thsi is S solution03:04
Guardiann:)03:04
warty0000:00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corp. 82865G Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02)03:04
Rene_SMorning everyone :)03:04
jdublexhider: tmbg fan? :)03:04
occyjdub: know much about touchpads?03:04
jduboccy: nup03:04
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occy:(03:04
occyoccy.net/inspiron750003:04
ZzeCoOli just want to use 3.14.6 not a driver that it is 9 months older03:04
pybe-lappyim trying to print a pdf file but everything I do just produces postscript like text (the pdf headers i think)03:04
occypybe hey bud.03:04
pybe-lappyoccy: hey still no luck03:04
wartyVidoe Card according to lspci is>0000:00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corp. 82865G Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02)03:05
lexhiderjdub: I still have that single.03:05
pybe-lappyoccy: mine works straight out the box =)03:05
lexhiderwhat's the command for password change?03:05
ZzeCoOlpasswd03:05
occypybe-lappy: well good for you :P~03:05
occypybe-lappy: :)03:05
lexhiderirc password change.03:05
ZzeCoOlahmmm03:05
jdubZzeCoOl: no guarantee it'll work03:06
kezzlexhider, msg nickserv help03:06
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ZzeCoOljdub: but it working smooth and fine at other distros like Gentoo03:06
Ensiferumwith lsmod, does 0 in used by field indicate that the module really is unsuded and can be unloaded from the running kernel?03:06
ZzeCoOlthats why im wondering it is ubuntu problem03:06
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jdubZzeCoOl: gentoo is fifty zillion different versions of everything, that really doesn't mean anything03:07
Konliedhow do i login as root?03:07
jdubZzeCoOl: the ati drivers are known to be painful03:07
Konliedwhen I didn't define a root password to startwith?03:07
jdubKonlied: www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo03:07
jdubKonlied: summary - root is disabled on ubuntu, use sudo03:07
ZzeCoOl....and the breath taking super wow ubuntu ...just dont run with ATi03:07
ZzeCoOli like ubuntu ...03:08
ZzeCoOlbut no ATi03:08
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jdubor stick with the drivers that are shipped with the system03:08
pybe-lappyjdub: root isnt disabled on my install....03:08
jdubpybe-lappy: if you've done a fresh install, and you haven't set the root password after the fact, then yes, it is :)03:09
ZzeCoOlpybe-lappy: you probably got rooted before even install it...03:09
ZzeCoOl:)03:09
ZzeCoOl:P03:09
wartydpkg-reconfigure xserver=xfree86 done.. No change visible in resolution list.03:10
wartywhat now?03:10
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pybe-lappyjdub: ahh i have set the root passwd after the fact03:11
ZzeCoOlpoint your self with a gun?....03:11
Guardiannfor anyone who has not seen this this is a great place to visit http://www.ubuntuguide.org/03:11
jdubwarty: tough call with the livecd03:11
pybe-lappyZzeCoOl: my computers are always behind good firewalls they havent been rooted yet03:11
ZzeCoOlpybe-lappy: for every one there is the first time03:12
ZzeCoOl:)03:12
lexhiderany apple notebook users here?03:12
pybe-lappyZzeCoOl: suppose03:12
wartyI wanted to use the live CD to show off unbuntu.  Guess I can|t use it.03:12
ZzeCoOlmine is behind aaa bvery good 50 inch cement wall...that will do the job03:13
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ZzeCoOljust kidding03:13
pybe-lappyha ha03:13
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Guardiannlexhider doesnt seem to be anyone03:13
wartyWith knoppix, I could use cheat codes to pass info to kernel so that the resolution fit. Is ther  a waz to do that here too?03:13
tkz I have the following problem: Right-click on a file, choose "Open with other application". After I choose the application I want, system shows an error "could not add application to application database"03:14
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jdubwarty: you can, but i don't have the specific answer you're looking for. that doesn't mean you can't use it.03:14
lexhiderjdub: are you an apple man?03:15
wartyDoes anyone know where to get the list of cheat codes for ubuntu?03:15
jdubwarty: there may be, perhaps check the morphix documentation (the warty livecd was built with morphix)03:15
jdublexhider: my previous notebook was a green ibook03:15
ZzeCoOlhttp://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000293026218/ (ahahahahahahahaahhah)03:16
Guardiannanyone using hoary?03:16
jdubGuardiann: yes03:16
Guardiannmany improvements?03:16
Guardiannor differences03:17
LBMany gnome-bluetooth packages for hoary someplace?03:17
lexhiderjdub: my housemate's buying an apple notebook. Is a powerbook worth the extra $$ or will an ibook fit the bill [I've never used a mac] .03:17
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kezzlexhider, im on an ibook and ubuntu works great on it03:17
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jdublexhider: for use with linux? i wouldn't really recommend any of the current models03:18
lexhidernot linux, OS X03:18
ZzeCoOlibook looks very kinky especialy with any manga wallpaper :> ixixixxi03:18
broodsterhey, how come my gaim keeps shutting down every time i send a file03:18
jdublexhider: not really the channel for osx/mac stuff :)03:18
kezzlexhider, whats she going to use it for?03:18
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lexhiderkezz: general email/office stuff but may end up getting a dig. camera.03:20
broodstercan someone help me?03:20
kezzlexhider, ibook will be fine03:20
kezzlexhider, the extra $ for a powerbook probably isn't worth it for just general stuff03:20
Vaportrailback from cleaning my keyboard :D03:21
broodsterhey, how come my gaim keeps shutting down every time i send a file03:21
lexhiderkezz: I told here the extra $1k was overkill and to beef up RAM to >=500m03:22
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tkzbroodster: I've had gaim to crash a couple of times after sending a file. Seems like a bug in gaim03:23
kezzlexhider, yeah remember that ibooks have a ram limit of 640mb i believe03:23
kezzmy g4 does anyway03:23
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lexhiderkezz: thanks, I think new limit is 1.25g, sorry about all off-topic chat everyone.03:26
tkz I have the following problem: Right-click on a file, choose "Open with other application". After I choose the application I want, system shows an error "could not add application to application database". How do I solve this?03:28
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broodsterDoes anyone know of a good website editor for Ubuntu/Linux which runs on the AMD64 architecture?03:33
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broodsteroh and thanks for the word tkz03:33
Ensiferumhmm. is there a different between installing nvidia drivers using synaptic (nvidia-glx) or then installing off nvidia's site?03:35
Ensiferumdifference*03:35
mirakhi03:39
mirakhow to play monkey audio mpc files ?03:39
bestadvocate_good question03:39
yccoYES!03:39
yccoTigert to the rescue!03:39
yccoheh03:39
mirakI tried once to compile the source but it failed03:39
yccohe fixx0red my touchpad.03:39
yccohurrah03:40
Ensiferumnobody knows the difference?03:40
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GuardiannEniferum if you use synaptic it installs them for you I believe03:41
EnsiferumGuardiann: is it the same driver just packed up?03:42
Guardiannnot sure03:42
Ensiferumi think i'm gonna install the nvidia driver off their site03:42
Guardiann:)03:43
Ensiferumthe installer they provide is sweet03:43
Ensiferumhas never failed on me03:43
broodsterDoes anyone know of a good website editor for Ubuntu/Linux which runs on the AMD64 architecture?03:43
Guardiannbroodster sorry I do not03:43
Ensiferumemacs :)03:43
broodster=[03:44
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tkzbroodster: have you checked is Screem works?03:44
broodsterScreem?03:44
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pybe-lappybroodster: apt-get it its ok03:45
tkzbroodster: yes, screem... ...I've got it but mine's an overclocked duron processor :)03:45
broodsterapt-get screem?03:45
broodsterapt-get install screem?03:46
broodsterright?03:46
tkzbroodster: should be, I installed that one via synaptic03:46
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broodsteri gotta restart after i install right?03:47
tkzbroodster: just type screem in terminal03:47
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broodsteroh03:48
broodsterawesome03:48
tkzbroodster: after you restart, it shoul show up in applications->programming03:48
neeneehm03:48
broodsterhey i think somethings wrong with my repositries03:48
broodsterW: Couldn't stat source package list ftp://ftp.nerim.net stable/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.nerim.net_debian-marillat_dists_stable_main_binary-amd64_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)03:49
broodsterW: Couldn't stat source package list ftp://ftp.nerim.net testing/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.nerim.net_debian-marillat_dists_testing_main_binary-amd64_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)03:49
neeneei just updated debian with a hoary repository03:49
broodsteri always get this when i do any form of apt-get command03:49
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pybe-lappybroodster: its telling you that the path shown does not exist03:55
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pybe-lappystill cant print pdf files.... anyone had any experiance with this?04:00
Cloudchaseri printed some with no problems04:02
Cloudchaserwith xpdf and with the acroread-plugin04:02
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Cloudchaseris it all pdfs or just certain ones?04:02
pybe-lappyCloudchaser: tried xpdf acroread ggv gpdf... all just print garbage04:03
pybe-lappyCloudchaser: all i have tried04:03
Cloudchaserother things print fine on your printer?04:03
pybe-lappyyep all txt oo firfox etc print fine04:04
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Cloudchaserpybe-lappy, i'm not too sure what the issue is...i am printing to an smb printer..an hplj604:07
Cloudchaserworks fine..what type of printer is yours?04:07
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yccoanything I need to apt-get install to get apm or battery stuff working on my laptop under ubuntu?04:09
Cloudchaserpybe-lappy, maybe you can write to the email list and see if anyone has an answer for you04:11
bretze1Hi there again just want to say that : I was too much used to KDE and its full of stuff (cool or scrap) And With Ubuntu default gnome well setup, I realize that Gnome is now really better in speed and eye-candy - Not too heavy-weigth GUI compared to KDE ...:-)04:11
Cloudchaserhttp://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ (link to the mailing lists)04:12
Cloudchaserycco i have no answer for you...maybe when more people are about someone could help you04:13
Cloudchaseri have to go to sleep now04:13
yccoCloudchaser: heh, night.04:13
Cloudchaserhehe well its morning but i got home from work not long ago :)04:13
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pybe-lappyycco: on my dell c400 it all works under acpi04:15
yccopybe-lappy: just rubbin' it in huh?04:15
pybe-lappyCloudchaser: cheers have emailed the list just mow04:15
yccopybe-lappy: just ruuuuubbbin' it in.04:15
yccoheh04:15
pybe-lappyycco: apm isnt in the ubuntu kernel afaict04:15
pybe-lappyycco: you could try booting with acpi=off apm-on04:16
pybe-lappyapm=on04:16
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Cloudchasergood luck pybe ;)04:18
bretze1Someone can tell me if it is possible to make the Grub and console in framebuffer mode ( without to mess up with redoing from scratch initrd ) ??04:18
Ensiferumi pulled in 2.6.8.1-4-686-smp kernel. but i can only find 2.6.8.1-3-686-smp headers. what does the 1-3 (1-4) mean?04:20
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pybe-lappyCloudchaser: cheers04:24
Guardianndamm i cant break this ;)04:25
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Guardiannand man have i tried04:26
jintybrian has a cup of coffee04:26
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Guardiannand so do I04:28
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lekyou can't break what?04:32
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neeneethe cookie with the coffee he's having :)04:33
Nonphasishow can I add stuff to the "Applications" menu?04:33
Nonphasisin order to add it to panel later on04:34
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Guardiannneenee your tooooooooooooooooo funny04:36
Guardiannactually Ubuntu04:36
neeneetoo is never good :|04:36
neeneeubuntu?04:36
Guardiannbut toooooooooooooooo  is always good04:36
Guardiann;)04:36
Guardiannyeah it just keeps working04:36
Guardiannand i have tried hard04:37
randabis-wirelesheh04:37
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randabis-wirelesyou can type nautilus applications:///04:37
aracatacahi to all!04:37
neeneehello04:38
Vaportrailubuntu and its community got an best of year 2004 award, so... :)04:38
Vaportrailhi04:38
Vaportrailaracataca #ubuntu-de :P04:38
randabis-wirelesthen right-click and add launcher04:38
Nonphasisrandabis-wireles, thx04:38
neeneei will try ubuntu too04:38
Guardiannnautilus applications:/// randabis-wireles <<<<<< ijust did  ;)04:38
neeneeat the moment i am on debian04:38
aracatacajaja, da gehts auch hin, spter  ;)04:38
randabis-wirelesnp04:38
Vaportrailhrhr04:38
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Vaportrailsind nur so wenig drin da :)04:39
neeneewarum spreche sie deutsch?04:39
neeneeor is this an international channel?04:39
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yccodasta besta yah04:40
yccoheh04:40
neeneei'm used to separate channels for different languages04:40
neeneebut i can get used to mixed.04:40
aracatacayeah, get with it...04:40
Vaportrailoh no, its english only04:40
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yccoAnyone speakin' any of that furin' stuff will be delt with.04:40
aracatacabut thats for better understanding and support, i hope!  :)04:41
randabisthere, easier this way04:41
Nonphasiswell, that worked, thx04:41
yccoheh04:41
randabisgot the laptop next to the main box and typing over there is awkward04:41
Nonphasisbut it sure wasn't easy. how is the user supposed to guess "applications:///"?04:41
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flodinthe gcc version in warty has bugs that makes it impossible for me to work... is there a smarter way to install the latest version, than just uninstalling g++ and compiling sources into /usr/local?04:41
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randabishaha04:41
neeneehm04:42
randabiswell, I'd think a new user would at least read the starter guide04:42
neeneenow that doesn't make me want to rush into ubuntu04:42
aracatacaso my problem this time: too many windows crashed my window-manager, and now it won't open the "window-changer" itself04:42
neeneeflodins' question that is04:42
Nonphasisstarter guide?04:42
Guardiannit has been working great for me so far04:42
randabiswww.ubuntuguide.org04:42
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aracatacaso whats the name of the application to start it?04:42
randabishttp://img57.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img57&image=gdesklets6em.jpg04:43
randabisgo gdesklets04:43
yccoif I have apmd installed then I should have a /proc/apm right?04:43
Vaportrailaracataca: it crashed metacity?04:43
neeneehttp://neeneedesktop.now.nu - go ion3 :)04:43
aracatacawell, if that is the name for it04:43
Vaportrailits the name for the gnome windowmanager04:44
flodinneenee: this is the big problem with a fixed release schedule and no package updates between releases04:44
randabishehe cool04:44
flodinneenee: the advantage is better support and fewer problems overall04:44
randabisI gots me a transparent eterm, but it's not in that shot04:44
Guardiannflodin what are the probloems you are having04:44
aracatacamaybe it was just parts of it, the ability to use several desktops, in particular04:44
neeneeflodin: hm. well, i used gentoo for over a year.. i suppose i can deal with problems in ubuntu04:45
neeneeit'll be a challenge, though hopefully not one i will regret accepting :)04:45
Nonphasiswow. this ubuntuguide.org rocks04:45
flodinGuardiann: when i compile with -O0, gcc says "warning: control reaches end of non-void function" for numerous void functions, including system functions in the STL headers04:45
randabisyeah it was very handy Nonphasis04:46
neeneeflodin: use -O, do not put a zero there04:46
Guardiannthere you go04:46
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flodinneenee: i just switched from gentoo myself. I got tired of design flaws in the gentoo package system that broke my system... i can't say i'm unhappy about switching, but i wouldn't say either of them is a clear winner04:47
flodinneenee: that's not the same is it? -O means optimize, -O0 means do not optimize04:48
randabisI like gentoo, except compile times04:48
randabisotherwise it be schweet04:48
Nonphasisbtw, when was the hoary release date again?04:48
randabisum...not sure, gotta be a few months away04:48
neeneeflodin: hmm.. i've never seen -O0 being used04:48
neeneeflodin: i assumed it was erroneous04:48
randabiscount 6 months from oct 2604:49
flodinneenee: -O0 is equivalent to having no option at all. What I mean to say is that with -O2 it compiles without warnings, and with no -O2 there it gives a gazillion warnings about forgotten return statements (but it still compiles the program)04:49
neeneei see04:49
randabissometime in April/early may I imagine04:49
Nonphasisi guess i'll wait for hoary to get cd-burning to work04:49
neeneewithout it uses the optimization set by the devs of whatever you're compiling, which is broken?04:49
randabiscd-burning already works04:49
randabisuse k3b04:49
Nonphasisk3b doesn't see my drive04:50
randabisooh04:50
Nonphasisand it also hangs on startup...04:50
randabiswell there's a few others you can try...04:50
flodinneenee: well i'm the developer... and without an -O option, it uses no optimization. Which is what I want, in order to debug the program04:50
Nonphasisnautilus cd burner used to be usable for burning, but by the time ubuntu went final, it stopped working04:51
neeneeflodin: ok. i thought it used no extra optimization with -O either04:51
randabisit works for me, but I like zee k3b04:51
Nonphasisknowing that hoary will be out in the near future, i'm too lazy to do the ide-scsi whatever dance before that04:51
neeneewhy not use atapi burning?04:51
flodinneenee: -O is equivalent to -O1, i believe04:51
Nonphasisyeah, as it stands there is no supported audio cd burnur04:51
randabisI have a Samsung CDRW/DVD reader combo though04:51
yccoNonphasis: wow... ubuntuguide.com does rock.04:52
bretze1I finally found where marilatt section is !!! thanks to randabis with your link to the URL quide!! :-)04:52
Nonphasisneenee, well, it doesn't seem to work04:52
neeneeflodin: hm.. that would make sense mathematically speaking, but i often run into linux-things which do not make much sense since it tries to be unique/original :)04:52
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randabis8 mb cache is nice04:52
randabisnp guys04:52
neeneei will accept your explanation though, since i am no developer. just a use04:52
neenee*user04:52
randabisit was a life-saver when I started being almost completely new to debian distros04:52
bretze1I read that Ubuntu is now 5'th in distrib ranks... I think it will be the Very first best in shirt time in 2005 !! :-)04:53
neeneehm04:53
randabisyeah because it is yummy04:53
neeneepopularity is not the same as being best to me04:53
randabisright04:53
Nonphasiswhat distro ranks?04:53
neeneei still believe that each distro has its own uses :)04:54
bretze1read short time -- I am getting hold :-( I am full of thumbs04:54
Nonphasisneenee, but it does mean better support community04:54
randabisI think it beats fedora and suse hands down for usability and speed though04:54
NonphasisFedora beats ubuntu on kde04:54
Guardiann:)04:54
neeneenonphasis: true indeed :) being more well-known will make people flock to it probably04:54
neeneeand the name is nice04:54
bretze1Nonphasis: I can't recall someone yesterday wrote the Site name ... I don;t remember which04:54
neeneeat least, i like it04:54
neeneebretze1: distrowatch?04:55
Nonphasiswell, the name certainly catches the attention04:55
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neeneei kept typing 'urubuntu' instead04:55
randabisNonphasis maybe, but kde sucks anyway :p04:55
Guardiannwelcome back ZzeCool04:55
randabisgnome is so much sexier04:55
Nonphasispeople tend to call it "africa linux" here ;-904:55
ZzeCoOlhey04:55
neeneeah04:56
bretze1Indeed Fedora beats everyone in KDE ( maybe not SuSE ) but I read Ubuntu is WIP for KDE04:56
ZzeCoOlghuys i have this problem look04:56
ZzeCoOl(II) Primary Device is: PCI 01:00:004:56
ZzeCoOl(WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:0:1) found04:56
ZzeCoOl(--) Chipset ATI R300 ND (R9700 PRO) found04:56
Guardiann#@#@#@ snow04:56
ZzeCoOlsnow lol04:56
ZzeCoOl:>04:56
Nonphasisyeah, kde needs Ubuntu04:56
aracatacahi, whats the name again for the application that enables to work independently with several desktops?04:56
Nonphasisand I at least would occasionally like to use some kde apps04:56
bretze1-- But I think no one beats Ubuntu for GNome setup04:56
kezzfedora uses gnome as standard doesn't it?04:57
Nonphasiskonqueror is better than naut in many tasks (smb share browsing at least)04:57
neeneebretze1: hm. what about the dropline release of gnome?04:57
Vaportrailbut its kinda slow, somehow04:57
ZzeCoOlkonqueror is special04:57
randabisyeah fedora uses gnome...some slow demented version04:57
neeneebretze1: it's not a distribution though, but it is a great release form04:57
bretze1NonPhasis: Of course me too I really need KDE apps: KDevelop!!!! that's it...04:58
ZzeCoOldoes anyone understand this error?04:58
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ZzeCoOl(WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:0:1) found04:58
randabiswell, you can use konq in gnome if I'm not mistaken04:58
Nonphasisyeah, and I've used it - but it would be nice to see it as "supported"04:59
Nonphasiswith a more recent version as well04:59
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Nonphasisit would be cool if Ubuntu provided an alternative Universe with more recent stuff04:59
bretze1randabis: yes, but I realized Ubuntu gnome is better: Konq is now too heavy-wegth for me04:59
Nonphasisperhaps 3 months after the release04:59
Nonphasisbecause it's unsupported anyway05:00
bretze1Nonphasis: About more recent pkg: I have downloaded and burned DVD-Wekkly hoary distrib yesterday - I will try it soon...05:00
pybe-lappycheck this out: http://saltydogs.aa0.netvolante.jp:8080/ViewerFrame?Mode=Motion&Language=4 someones webcam and you can move it around on the bracket05:01
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randabisyou tried mutliverse?05:01
Nonphasisbretze1, i also get the occasional Hoary-itch, but I still have too much war memories from Debian Sid05:01
srwow! .. irc'ing from ubuntu system05:01
srinstall went well, except for some X troubleshooting05:01
Nonphasisrandabis no, how do i try it?05:01
randabisheh cool me too, viva la xchat05:02
srbtw, the packages are a bit old05:02
randabisyou have to add it to your sources.lst05:02
srthinking of switching to hoary05:02
randabissources.list even05:02
Nonphasisrandabis what do i have to add?05:02
srbut is hoary something like 'sid'?05:02
Nonphasisrandabis paste it05:02
bretze1ftp.nerim.net uploads at 11kb/s only ouch!!! that will be long to complete 11mb download ...05:02
sri mean will the name 'hoary' be the same after each release?05:02
randabisdeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ warty multiverse05:03
srbretze1, I downloaded warty (550MB) in a 6 kBps line!05:03
flodinwhen i installed g++ using aptitude it marked gcc as a dependency (with the 'A' flag); now that i try to uninstall g++, shouldn't it also automatically uninstall gcc?05:03
srthat took 22 hours!05:03
Nonphasisrandabis thx05:03
bretze1Nonphasis: War memories from sid ? what do you mean?05:03
randabisyou can add repositories with synaptic if you wish also05:03
Nonphasisbretze1, it breaking up every now and then05:03
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randabisnah hoary will be final and then there will be another development name for the next ubuntu release05:04
Nonphasishmm, nothing read from multiverse05:04
bretze1Oh you talk of upgrading warty to hoary ? arrg! don;t do that I had to re-install Ubuntu from scratch05:04
Nonphasislunch, bbl05:04
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neeneeok. backup done i think05:04
randabishoary is still a little unpolished for everyday use05:04
neeneei am running debian-hoary05:05
randabisthat's to be expected though, considering the final won't be out till late april or early may05:05
bretze1I agree. but neenee, how is hoary for you ?05:05
neeneeer05:06
neeneewell, i will install it in a bit05:06
neeneei updated my debian with a hoary repository, and so far it runs well05:06
neeneebut the config files are still debian-ish05:06
neeneeso i should not form an opinion on hoary yet :)05:06
neeneeapart from perhaps that i like the up-to-date packages :)05:06
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biezthow can i see exactly which motherboard i have ?05:07
bretze1neenee: ah you went lucky because I have messed up my sys scrambling warty-hoary...05:07
randabiswell, you can open up your case05:07
biezti see nothing there :S05:07
neeneebretze1: :|05:07
randabisthere's programs out there that will detect your chipset, etc too05:07
bretze1randabis: hahahahaha!@!!! tha'ts true in fact05:07
neeneemaybe you can use lspci05:08
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bretze1hey, is xine and gstreamer sharing the codecs libs ???05:09
randabisI can't get rythmnbox to play mp3 for some reason...kinda interested in using it for the library05:10
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randabisI read you need to install the gstreamer-mad package, but that doesn't fix it for me05:11
bretze1and now I finally also get libdvdcss2 from marilatt ! I feel well now :-)05:12
bretze1What a joy! xine plays DVD films now! I'm in heaven, I'm in heaven ( Green miles film )05:15
bretze1Now I need DVD authoring program - Is there something like Nero recode; DVD authoring in linux /Debian ?05:16
randabismaybe, not sure05:16
randabiswish I could get rythmnbox going :\05:16
bretze1For medelf: Google "DVD-authoring linu ) :-)\05:17
randabismplayer acts funky too..video playback crawls, while it's just fine on gxine05:17
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bretze1randabis: Yes I am actually running xine playing The Chronicles of RIDDICK :-)05:17
randabisyeah, xine is fine for me, but I kinda wanted to use mplayer...especially since I compiled it from source and all05:18
rwabelanyone has also troubles with gnome on hoary?05:18
Ensiferumhmm. pulled in 686-smp kernel. it wont load though, since .../modules/modules.dep is missing. How to fix that? Reinstall?05:20
bretze1randabis: oh! I am used to xine05:20
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randabiswell they are both good, but I'm disappointed since I made the extra effort for mplayer05:21
bretze1I asked before if it is possible to get grub and consoles ( after-boot ) in framebuffer-mode expecialy to get nice grub graphical ye-candy boot screen :-) anyone knows how to make it in Ubunut ?05:21
rwabelI want o make dist-upgrade and apt wants to remove alot of packages, some are from gnome itself05:21
randabisI've done it before bretze1, gotta patch your kernel and some other stuff05:21
randabisI could never get progress bars working though05:22
bretze1randabis: yes i know inird also needs to be worked ... is it possible I read that there is already a kernel patch for Ubunut ?05:22
Nonphasishow can i browse what's available in multiverse?05:22
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randabisyou can add http://www.bootsplash.de/files to your repositories to get a deb patch that works05:23
Nonphasisapt-get update already fetched the package list...05:23
randabischeck sections in synaptic...should have separate sections for multiverse in each category05:24
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Nonphasisyeah, just noticed05:24
bretze1Nonphasis: From synaptic you can go to repositries and unselect all other sections and leave multiverse selected and reload command in synaptic05:24
bretze1randabis: Thanks I gonna do it :-)05:25
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randabisit does work, but like I said I could never get progress bars going so I just stuck with verbose themes05:25
bretze1randabis: I don't care about progress bar: I want framebuffer in grub and after-boot consoles05:26
randabisI recently did a compile with fbsplash instead of bootsplash, but I can't get any themes working with it05:26
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randabisso I am thinking about going back05:26
randabiswell it will work, just have to edit your menu.lst05:27
bretze1:-) maybe digging and working hard one of us will manage to make it easy and submit our work to Ubuntu ? :-) ;-)05:27
Vaportrailso I give the honor to you bretzel05:27
Vaportrailbecause u got the idea :P05:27
randabiswell I don't see it being done without a kernel compile, unless hoary will have the patch already builtin to its kernels05:27
randabiswhich I think it will05:27
bretze1I know that we have to work on initrd image also changing bootsplash themes also implies updating something in initrd image ...05:28
randabisI'm kinda more interested in usplash though05:28
bretze1what is usplash ?05:28
randabisyou can do it fairly easily with bootsplash utilities05:28
randabisit's a user-space splash screen instead of building it into the kernel05:29
Nonphasisyay, chtugha is in multiverse05:29
randabisit isn't done yet though from what I know05:29
bretze1ok05:30
randabisbut that will make it easier05:30
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bretze1for now I just want that framebuffer well stup in boot-post boot consoles... I will try your URL source and see the patch ...05:30
Nonphasiswhat's mplayer-custom in multiverse? compared to mplayer from nerim.net?05:31
Nonphasisdoes it suck less?05:31
Vaportrailnonphasis its the non working version of mplayer :P05:31
Nonphasisgreat, just what i need05:31
Vaportrailput i suggest xine if you ain't got a p405:31
randabisjust compile it from source, it isn't hard05:31
bretze1I tried the frambuffer setup in grub conf - It is booting in framebuffer and nice but after the boot seqs the cosoles are messed up05:31
Nonphasisyes, i use xine05:31
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Nonphasisbut mplayer has always worked faster for me05:32
Vaportrailand totem-xine :)05:32
Vaportrailoh k05:32
randabistotem xine works funky for me05:32
Nonphasisfast forward is slower in xine and totem05:32
Nonphasisand mplayer has great keyboarh shortcuts05:34
Nonphasistoo bad nerim.net mplayer cant scale the image to full screen05:34
Vaportrailhmm, and the marillat repository doesn't work?05:34
Nonphasisyes, marillat == nerim.net05:34
Nonphasisi didn't remember the "normal" name ;-)05:34
bretze1randabis: what do I need to add to the http://www.bootsplash.de/files source? it seems not working05:34
Vaportrailoh it can, but you need to set another video., eh thing05:35
Nonphasisah, it uses wrong video "thing" as default?05:35
Nonphasisi think it used xv05:35
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Vaportrailwith gl it can resize to fullscreen, if i remember it correct05:36
Nonphasishmm, gotta examine. it used to be able to do that w/ xv as well05:37
bretze1randabis: something is missing I have put "./" in the section name but it is full of distribs which one I put ?05:37
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randabisI think unstablew05:38
randabisdebian unstable I think05:38
randabisI'll check05:38
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jcsprayShould it work to use hoary kernel packages with warty?  (I'm after 2.6.10 pwc)05:40
NonphasisThis program is shareware and you must register it after 40 days of use.05:40
randabisdeb http://www.bootsplash.de/files/debian unstable main05:40
randabisdeb-src http://www.bootsplash.de/files/debian unstable main05:40
Nonphasisnever expected to see that in a debian repo ;-)05:40
Vaportrailwoot proggy?05:40
Nonphasisrar05:40
randabismultiverse is non-free programs, that's way05:40
randabiswhy05:40
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Vaportrailhmm05:41
bretze1ok I try thanks very randabis :-)05:41
Nonphasisyes, but shareware sounds like extremely non-free ;-)05:41
randabishah05:41
bretze1randabis: Yes! you are correct - I have them now in synaptic :-)05:42
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kentHoary wont come with bootsplash right?05:45
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bretze1randabis: error: ( sorry for trave text Setting up bootsplash (3.1-6) ...05:48
bretze1Building bootsplash initrd image...05:48
bretze1cp: cannot stat `.orig': No such file or directory05:48
bretze1cp: cannot stat `': No such file or directory05:48
bretze1dpkg: error processing bootsplash (--configure):05:48
bretze1 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 105:48
bretze1)05:48
randabisI just got the same thing :\05:48
bretze1hehehe what it exepect ???05:48
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bretze1I wonder where in the filesystem packages are worked, I could go there and figure out what is there and do it myself05:50
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mgedmin(hoary) apt-get keeps pestering me with WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated05:51
mgedmincan I do something about that?  (download a pgp key, etc)05:51
yccohttp://occy.net/oddnetworkingissues_ubuntu05:55
yccocan someone take a look at that please?05:55
yccoI have no problems on my Ubuntu Desktop as far as networking goes...   On my laptop there are odd issues.   The above url shows route    run on both boxes.  They should be the same but aren't.  How can I fix it?05:56
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randabisI found some sort of fix for it bretze1, but it's in german or dutch and I don't understand it05:57
randabisI tried google translate and that didn't help much hehe05:57
Konliedhmm, I am puzzled as to why I can't get vncserver running on ubuntu05:58
randabisIt does not go? Then the in any case only times following things are to be beachten/checken:05:58
randabis    * was the Kernel compiled correctly? dmesg|grep bootsplash something should spend05:58
randabis    * does the Framebuffer use 16 bits depth of shade? With other depths of shade Bootsplash does not function.05:58
randabis    * The "bootsplash" package announces to installing sowas (possibly also into German):05:58
neeneehm. so many documents on recommended partitioning schemes.05:58
randabisCode:05:58
randabisBuilding bootsplash initrd image...05:58
yccoon desktop it's going through "localnet" whatever the heck that is.  (and works)  on laptop it's going through 10.10.0.005:58
randabiscp: CAN emergency stat `.orig ': NO look for file or directory05:58
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randabiscp: CAN emergency stat ` ': NO look for file or directory05:58
randabisdpkg: error processing bootsplash (- - configure):05:58
randabissubprocess post office installation script returned error exit status 105:58
randabisthen it possibly hillft to install bootsplash_3.0.7-9_i386.deb and afterwards apt GET dist upgrade run let a package amended by me ( peschmae), which overwrites my package again and problem-free the original Bootsplash package now install should.05:58
yccocrimsun: You about today? :)05:58
randabisNote: The post office installation script of bootsplash is apparently broken. It is var/lib/dpkg/info/bootsplash.postinst to find under/ and can be accordingly amended.05:58
KonliedI have run apt-get for vnc-common but it tells me I have the newest eversion. Yet I can't run the server! (no such command)05:58
randabisI don't know what that's supposed to mean05:58
bretze1randabis: so bootsplash can't be installed ?06:02
randabisyou have to fix an error in /var/lib/dpkg/info/bootsplash.postinst06:03
randabisbut I don't know WHAT to fix06:03
randabisand all the info is in dutch06:03
randabisso I don't know06:03
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bretze1ok let me take a look - but the commands are not in germain speaking :-)06:03
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e-Jahre06:05
bretze1On the frist look I guest the script expects an already old installed initrd splash theme image ... I continue to dig06:05
randabisthe error is in line 9506:07
yccono Ubuntu network God's around? :(06:07
randabisbut I don't understand what to change it to06:07
bretze1I found the offended silly command: It is in fact expecting an old initrd*.orig file and abort if there isn't !!! that is silly programming let me figure out how I can keep this script exec instead of the one unpackaged from the .deb06:08
randabisok06:09
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randabiscan you just make a initrd*.orig file?06:09
bretze1hahaha !let me try it! :-):-)06:10
randabishmm didn't work for me06:12
randabisstill got the error06:12
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bretze1after faking .boot/initrd.splash and initrd.splash.orig, the install failed at line 91 in the script : splash -s -f /etc/bootsplash/themes/current/config/bootsplash-$i.cfg >> "$SPLASH_INITRD"06:15
randabishmm06:16
randabisI have an idea06:16
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randabisapparently, and older version of the deb works06:16
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randabis3.0.7-906:16
randabisI'm gonna try and force the installation of that one06:16
Konliedis it my imagination or can't I run vncserver from the commandline anymore?06:16
bretze1it is the resolution filename based not there06:17
randabiserr06:17
randabisthat didn't work06:17
randabisit's that friggen script06:17
bretze1no missing botsplash config files for a resolution that the script tries to apply06:18
randabishmm06:18
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Stew2I have a question. Why, when I install fedora core 3, is firefox current. The most current version of Firefox on Ubuntu says "reverted to 0.9.3"06:23
bretze1I have tried all resolution I know - still no such file ??? This script is really stupid !!!!06:23
Stew2Stew2: and also there was a bug in  ubuntu where xwindows fonts werent' installed, so x wouldn't start.06:24
randabiswell, it does install everything...just the post install script is borked...maybe we can just do that stuff manually06:24
bretze1yes but wait maybe some jpg files are missing06:24
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bretze1that's it there is only one resolution 1024x76806:25
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dudStew2, but warty only has security updates06:26
dudits frozen stable06:26
dudand .9.3 was the latest version when warty was frozen i suppose06:26
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_|Imanewbie|_Hail folks06:27
_|Imanewbie|_there is nt any games channel in free node?06:27
randabislet me know if you get it sorted06:28
dudwhat do you mean by game channels?06:28
_|Imanewbie|_dud: I need a new game to play while I'm on vacation /06:29
_|Imanewbie|_=/06:29
Konlieddoes anyone know what happened to vncserver? I can't get it running from the commandline at all06:29
dudfreenode isnt a warez network06:29
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dudor, did you mean linux games?06:29
_|Imanewbie|_dud: I dont mean warez06:29
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_|Imanewbie|_dud: I mean a game I can buy/run on a AMD Athlon 2000+ 256 RAM GeForce FX 520006:30
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dudhttp://www.tuxgames.com/ http://www.linuxgames.com/ http://www.happypenguin.org/06:30
dudthree nice ones for linux games06:30
_|Imanewbie|_dud: can be a free game to06:30
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pybe-lappyKonlied: apt-get install vncserver or tightvncserver06:30
bretze1randabis: I think running the script is not possible whatever we hack...06:30
dudhappypenguin being the best imho06:30
Konliedpybe-lappy: done that06:30
dudbtw, does anyone know why im getting a stable 0.9-1.2x dvd burning on a BenQ 8x dvd burner in k3b?06:31
Konliedpybe-lappy: according to apt i have the latest version. vncserver returns 'no such command'06:31
dudits not like it should matter that k3b is a kde app running in gnome...?06:31
pybe-lappyKonlied: just getting will see06:31
dudafter all, its not emulating the kde enviroment, its actually using the libs06:31
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pybe-lappyKonlied: works for me06:32
Konliedoh god im going mad06:32
dudthruth be said, i do have lots of apps open while burning... but even with no apps running in gnome, i get like 2x06:32
dudand i believe that the hdd is on a different ide cable than the burner06:33
bretze1rndabis: running splash -s -f /etc/bootsplash/themes/current/config/bootsplash-1024x768.cfg > test.iii works so test.iii shlbe the inird filename06:33
pybe-lappyKonlied: mithspelign06:33
bretze1randabis: oops06:33
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bretze1but still missing stuf in that file...06:34
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coscohello . i installed with the synaptik the mysqp-server and client and now when i try to do something with it ..the programs say that "There seems to be a problem with the MySQL server, sorry for the inconvenience. "06:34
_|Imanewbie|_I will code a game from scratch to please my self :p06:34
Konliedpybe-lappy: mithspelign???06:34
pybe-lappyKonlied: is that why it wont work? =)06:35
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pybe-lappycosco: there might be better info in /var/log/06:35
randabisbrb06:36
bretze1rnadabis: Ok what I understand is that the orig inird can be taken from what is already there in /boot and then run splash command ... >> /boot/inird already there :-)06:36
coscook06:36
coscolet me see06:36
Ensiferumhow do i get a specific module to be loaded on boot?06:36
bretze1randabis _ why do i type madabis ??? sorry :-)06:36
Ensiferum(sorry for the bump question)06:36
Ensiferumdumb even06:36
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pybe-lappyEnsiferum: /etc/modules06:37
Konliedpybe-lappy: I run vncserver from the same .bash_profile command I had with debian06:37
pybe-lappyKonlied: ahh06:37
Ensiferumpybe-lappy: thank you so much.06:37
pybe-lappyEnsiferum: np06:37
Guardiann:)06:37
Ensiferumthis channel is really nice.06:38
coscopybe-lappy,06:38
pybe-lappycosco: ?06:38
coscothere is no error in mysql.err06:38
Ensiferumppl actually help here. unlike on #linux on qnet06:38
Ensiferum:] 06:38
pybe-lappycosco: nice06:38
randabis-wirelesbretzel I said screw it and just did it manually hehe06:38
coscolook http://acasa.cosco.ro/php/html/conifgure.php06:39
Konliedpybe-lappy: I don't see any reason for vncserver not to be working anymore, I really am unhappy with ubuntu now06:39
pybe-lappycosco: not played with many services on Ubuntu yet only installed last night =)06:39
CSWookieCan someone aid me in figuring out my .procmailrc?  And if someone can, where should I paste?06:39
coscoi mean http://acasa.cosco.ro/php/html/index.php06:39
coscolol06:39
coscosee that06:39
bretze1randabis-wireles: what you did ?06:39
klaymare there any good sites offering ubuntu/gnome desktop themes?06:39
pybe-lappyKonlied: hey what can i say, i just apt-got it and typed vncserver and it asked me for a passwd and away it went06:39
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Konlied<:( thanks anyway06:40
bretze1rebooting testing splash06:40
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pybe-lappyKonlied: i do have the extra repos and the back ports repos though, might be that....06:40
pybe-lappycosco: i would say thats down to postnuke config06:41
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Stew2dud: thanks. I googled the info. Read the wiki. I've added the backports. How hard is it to upgrade to hoary? This system is a fresh install.06:41
Stew2dud: fresh install of warty.06:41
Konliedprobably is. I noticed ubuntu adds 'remote desktop' to gnome, so I'm wondering if they disabled it on the commandline06:42
coscopybe-lappy, i just moved phpnuke there , im trying to vonfigure it , and i dont know why it doesnt work06:42
dudi found upgrading to hoary quite painless06:42
pybe-lappycosco: moved what the php & the sql database?06:42
dudbut you will have to be quite experienced with linux to use it06:42
dudbecause the occational bugs and quirks happens06:42
pybe-lappyKonlied: wheres the remote desktop in it?06:42
coscopybe-lappy, i dont get uyou06:43
dudin my experience, something buggy happens upon each time you run dist-upgrade06:43
randabisbretzel, I just did the splash -s -f \ /etc/bootsplash/themes/current/config/bootsplash-1024x768.cfg \ >> /boot/initrd06:43
randabisand edited menu.lst06:43
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pybe-lappycosco: you said you "moved" postnuke here implying it was working somewhere else before06:44
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dudthis is so fucking weird06:44
coscono.06:44
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dudi always get around 1.3x when burning dvds06:44
randabisbrb again06:44
dudon a 8x burner06:44
pybe-lappycosco: you just install it?06:44
bretzelrandabis: no no luck splash didn't work06:44
coscoi moved the downlloaded archieve :D and extracted it there , this way io can use it , coz it is on my apache serve06:44
dudwith using growisofs directly, or k3b frontend06:44
randabismake sure your grub points to the right initrd06:44
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pybe-lappycosco: ok, you setup sql with dbase and users yet?06:45
coscono06:45
coscoi dont know how06:45
Konliedpybe-lappy: remote desktop on ubuntu debian is under Computer > Desktop Prefs > Remote Desk06:45
pybe-lappycosco: sounds like you need to read the install docs that came with phpnuke06:45
coscowith phpnuke? ok06:45
coscolet me read them :D brb06:45
randabis-wirelesmight have to recompile06:45
pybe-lappyKonlied: thats not std vnc server06:46
pybe-lappyKonlied: thats so you can access your "current" desktop not as vncserver does a virtual one06:46
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coscoInstalling the Package06:46
cosco----------------------06:46
coscoUnzip the package into the directory you want to use on you web06:46
coscoserver, if you're unsure where that is, ask you system administrator.06:46
coscoNow go to the directory where you uncompressed all files and edit the06:46
coscofile "config.php".06:46
coscoit doesnt say anything .. on the install docs.. just to edit that file , and i cant edit it06:46
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pybe-lappycosco: why cant you edit it?06:47
bretzelthe kernel boots in framebuffer but seems not updated with the kernel patch06:47
bubba__bloody 'ell06:47
coscocoz .. it gives that error .. with mysql , whick i showed you06:47
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pybe-lappycosco: you edit the file with a text editor on the machine06:47
coscook.06:48
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pybe-lappycosco: you cant edit a file through a web browser06:48
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bretzelthe bootsplah don't work at all!06:48
Stew2dud: is there anything I get of signifigance from hoary different from warty with the couple of backports?06:48
pybe-lappycosco: gedit or nano the file on your computer06:48
randabis-wirelesyeah same06:48
randabis-wirelesI'm just gonna add the patch manualy06:48
coscopybe-lappy, it askes me root password , but on ubunt , it will cant login becase root mode is disable it can only login as root with sudo su06:49
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coscowhat can I do?06:49
bubba__anyone here using irssi-text for irc ?06:49
pybe-lappycosco: you will probably need to have created a database and users with the correct rights etc in mysql. You might whant to find phpmysql to do that for you.06:49
IBOICubuntu = best linux distro for 2004 by arstechnica06:49
dudStew2, i dunno... you'd get all the latest and greatest software generally06:49
pybe-lappycosco: sudo passwd06:50
bubba__IBOIC: no way06:50
Stew2cosco: sudo passwd root06:50
dudhmm, how would i go about checking if my dvd burner is using dma mode?06:50
dudthats faster isnt it?06:50
dudperhaps thats whats slowing it down...06:50
sladenbubba__: three times06:50
coscook06:50
coscothanks06:50
coscolet's see06:50
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pybe-lappydud: i have had weird results with differnt media on different burners06:51
bubba__dud: hdparm -i /dev/dvd06:51
dudhmm, ill try these other dvd disc i bought today a bit later06:51
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htrfceeis hoary in a stable it could be used even relatively stable, yet? i'm completely new to ubuntu, and there's a few packages with which i'm not very happy (too old versions) that would be available in hoary and not warty06:51
dudusing udma206:52
pybe-lappydud: i actually have some x4 which i get 3.8 on and some x8 which get a max of 2.306:52
kenthtrfcee, like what packages?06:52
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dudpybe-lappy, perhaps the discs are just shite06:53
dudcrap ass cheap unlabelled discs heh06:53
coscoit still doesnt work ( same error with mysql ) , i configured config.php  , do i need to configure mysql somehow ? pybe-lappy ?06:53
dudim such a cheap skate ;O06:53
pybe-lappyhtrfcee: might want to look at back-ports http://ubuntu-bp.sourceforge.net/ubuntu/06:53
bretzelrandabis-wireles: I'm just gonna add the patch manualy -- > How you do it ?06:53
mz2this far i've come across with inkscape, gimp, firefox and umbrello that are too old for my taste :)06:53
dudi bought 50 ePerformance discs today,,, they're suppose to go all the way to 12x with this drive06:53
Stew2What's the command to run after using "Users and Groups" to change the username of the only user on Ubuntu? Last time I did this I couldn't log in. Is there a shell command to change the name of the user home folder to match?06:53
dudthey're verified as 8x max...06:54
coscobrb - eating06:54
pybe-lappycosco: there will some install docs that tell you a whole lot more than you pasted just now06:54
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IBOICmy parents are getting fiber to the home tomorrow06:54
IBOICIm so jealous06:54
IBOICdamn verizon06:54
dudIBOIC, where?06:54
dudcountry i mean...06:54
IBOICusa06:54
pybe-lappycosco: you there still06:54
dudeh, fiber from verizon... must cost a fortune06:55
randabis-wirelesdownload the patch for our kernel, then copy it to your kernel source06:55
dudpybe-lappy, (cosco): brb - eating06:55
pybe-lappyheh the docs are there on his server http://acasa.cosco.ro/php/Install.txt06:55
kentmz2, that page about backports seems good. try it.06:55
randabis-wirelesthen patch -p1 < patch.diff06:55
mz2pybe-lappy, oh ok, cool! thanks06:56
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yohannbonjour06:56
yohannhello06:56
pybe-lappymz2: huh?06:56
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yohannfrench english here???06:57
mz2pybe-lappy, thx for the backports link u sent (sorry, a slightly confusing nick change :)06:57
pybe-lappymz2: ahh06:57
pybe-lappymz2: np06:58
yohannhe ben ca parle pas beaucoup ici06:58
pybe-lappyyohann: #ubuntu-fr06:59
Guardiann:)06:59
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yohannok06:59
yohannmerci06:59
pybe-lappy=)06:59
bretzelah but I have no time for this now I have my children to feed :-) I will try it later06:59
yohannalors on discute que ubuntu ICI?06:59
bretzelyohann: Essaie #ubuntu-fr ce channel est en anglais :-)07:00
yohannok07:00
bretzelyohann: Bien sure que c Ubuntu !07:00
pybe-lappyyohann: nous discutons l'alot de l'ubuntu de choses ici la plupart du temps cependant.07:01
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bretzelpybe-lappy: Hahaha! Your french is funny :-)07:01
yohannok c'est bon je suis pass sur le francais merci07:01
GFXstyLERhow can i accsess another pc in a network?07:01
pybe-lappybretzel: google translator =)07:01
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GFXstyLERi dont know how to do it07:02
klaymil n'y a pas beaucoup des gens ici <- is that right?07:02
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bretzelpybe-lappy: Hahahaha! I went to try one web base translator I can't imagine the funnny stuff I read in results!!!!! I was pissing07:02
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kezzno there's 29307:03
klaymyea but linguistically07:03
aracatacaheelo, gxine wont play the sound of a quicktime-movie (.mov), what should i do?07:03
kezzyeah looks rite07:03
klaymok07:03
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bretzelklaym: It is perfect07:03
pybe-lappybretzel: it translates directly with out any thought of grammer or scentance organisation. Can be usefull though07:03
huhmzHello. Since i changed apt sources to hoary and ran dist-upgrade my pipe key has stopped working on the keyboard. All other keys work correctly (swedish keyboard). How do i fix this?07:04
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klaymbretzel: great. I wondered whether the negation was formed correctly.07:04
bretzelpybe-lappy: The google translator ? maybe but all the words are scrambled in order07:04
dudtry setxkbmap se07:04
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pybe-lappyhave fun ubuntuers - beer and a curry are calling @ home07:04
dudhuhmz, that is...07:04
bretzelciao pybe-lappy07:05
pybe-lappysee ya07:05
huhmzdud: didnt work07:05
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huhmzdud: the keymap is already set to se07:05
dudhuhmz, does the key work at all then?07:05
dudspilt some coffee or something lately? heh07:05
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huhmzno the key doesnt seem to work at all07:05
huhmzim pretty sure its the dist-upgrades fault07:06
duddropped some crumbles on it perhaps07:06
bretzelok I am gone me too :-) see you07:06
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dudwith dist-upgrade, ive experienced that your ubuntu might act up, but its fine after a reboot07:07
aracatacano ideas how to set my gxine to play quicktime-movies?07:07
dudtried rebooting?07:07
dudaracataca, download the quicktime codec...07:07
huhmzguess thats next07:07
huhmzbye then07:07
_|Imanewbie|_does anyone knows how do I activate auto-completation in kdev3?07:07
dudcya07:07
aracatacayeah, and how do that?07:07
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MeAndUhow do i export NFS, I have this entry in /etc/export "/home/ubuntu32/NFSshare 127.0.0.0(rw,no_root_squash)"07:08
yccopybe: you see this? http://occy.net/tmp/oddnetworkingissues_ubuntu07:08
dablitzhey can someone help me out, I am trying to find and play some desent games on my system07:08
dudaracataca, http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/topic-25783.html07:09
dudtry following that guide07:09
dudthat was the first hit when searching for "ubuntu quicktime howto" on google btw :P07:09
Vaportrailaracataca did you follow the howtos on ubuntuguide.org?07:09
dudgoogle is your friend07:09
MeAndUount -t nfs -o rw,nolock 192.168.0.13:/home/ubuntu32/NFSshare07:10
MeAndUCan't find 192.168.0.13:/home/ubuntu32/NFSshare in /etc/fstab07:10
MeAndUdo i have to add it to fstab07:11
yccodud: Googles not liking me with my issue:  http://occy.net/tmp/oddnetworkingissues_ubuntu07:11
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yccoprobably too broad.07:11
smoMeAndU: or specify a mountpoint.  there you've told it what to mount, but not where to mount it07:11
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aracatacadud: checked your site, couldn't find the howto for gxine, but ill work it out07:12
Stew2Can someone please type directions on how to upgrade to hoary. I saw a reference to upgrading from Sarge in the wiki, and it didn't seem complete.07:13
MeAndUmount: Mounting 192.168.0.13:/home/ubuntu32/NFSshare on /var/mnt failed: Invalid argument07:13
aracatacavapor: yeah, but couldn't find it for gxine either07:13
aracatacabut i'll go to work now  ;)07:13
Vaportrailhf :)07:13
zenroxhow do i mount isos ?07:14
ionsdo more repositories need to be added before you can install flash-player-mozilla?07:14
Vaportrailaracataca: I did most of the howtos on this page and it works, i donnu which did it :P07:14
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jeffreybAnyone know how I can mount loop device? Got this error: could not find any device /dev/loop#07:14
Vaportrailions, just go on a flash page and klick install plugin would do it, too07:15
ionstrying to do it remotely via ssh07:15
MeAndUsmo: mount: Mounting 192.168.0.13:/home/ubuntu32/NFSshare on /var/mnt failed: Invalid argument any help07:15
Vaportrailah k07:15
ionsI suppose I can get out of my chair and go to the other room ;)07:15
Vaportraillol07:15
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trukuloanyone using pbuilder on ubuntu?07:16
siretarttrukulo: ocasionally, yes07:16
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zenroxjeffreyb,  you got to install crypto loop07:16
dablitzdoes anyone know of any good games that run on ubuntu07:16
trukulosiretart: have you tried to mount a sid pbuilder?07:16
ionsany of you guys using Foldingathome?  How do you get it to autostart?07:16
zenroxjeffreyb,  and how are you running the command07:16
jeffreybzenrox: Thanks - will do.07:16
trukuloi have errors with passwd and lilo packages07:16
dablitzand where I might find them07:16
siretarttrukulo: no, I used hoary's pbuilder07:17
jeffreybzenrox: I'm trying to run Mindi/Mondo Rescue... I get the error running Mindi.07:17
trukulosiretart: umm, ok, thanks anyway07:17
lamonttrukulo: I know I'm using sbuild on ubuntu, quite a bit...07:17
coscohello. i tryed to install php-nuke on my ubuntu box , after i installed php4 and mysql and all i need. after i set up my config.php ( phpnuke config file ) and set up the mysql data base .. i cant open the config.php with my browser.07:17
siretartdablitz: tuxracer, bzflag, kobo-deluxe, xpilots, tetrinet, cube07:17
jeffreybzenrox:Creating data disk #1...mount: could not find any device /dev/loop#07:17
jeffreybFatal error. Can't loopmount /tmp/tmp.LZU9u1/mindilinux/9721/mountpoint.9721; does your kernel support loopfs?07:17
lamontjeffreyb: modprobe loop07:18
siretartdablitz: more free games? perhaps some comercial ones? ;)07:18
lamontmodprobe cryptoloop07:18
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zenroxjeffreyb,  not why just how casue i fergot how to mount a iso ?07:18
jeffreybzenrix: That's the error msg.07:18
lamontsiretart: there are many games in universe07:18
dablitzthanks sire07:18
KhantozavriHi everyone... anybody here?07:18
Vaportrailno, nobody07:18
siretartlamont: jupp. Great games. :)07:18
zenroxjeffreyb,  modprobe cryptoloop07:18
trukulolamont: don't know sbuild, i like pbuilder cause is what debian maintainer guide recommends07:18
KhantozavriHey, guys, I need some help, anyone available?07:19
neeneethere are people here07:19
VaportrailKhantozavri just ask07:19
neeneei suggest you just ask your question07:19
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KhantozavriI don't see unicode text in my language....07:19
lamonttrukulo: never used pbuilder...07:19
Khantozavrithanks....07:19
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MeAndUmount -t nfs -o rw,nolock 192.168.0.13:/home/ubuntu32/NFSshare /var/mnt07:19
MeAndUmount: RPC: Unable to receive; errno = Connection refused07:19
MeAndUmount: nfsmount failed: Bad file descriptor07:19
MeAndUmount: Mounting 192.168.0.13:/home/ubuntu32/NFSshare on /var/mnt failed: Invalid argument07:19
coscohello. i tryed to install php-nuke on my ubuntu box , after i installed php4 and mysql and all i need. after i set up my config.php ( phpnuke config file ) and set up the mysql data base ..i try to open config.php and it says http://acasa.cosco.ro/php/html/index.php <- go here07:20
lamonttrukulo: all the buildd's use sbuild, so that's what I learned and use07:20
trukuloumm, interesting07:20
trukulowhat are the differences with pbuilder?07:20
VaportrailKhantozavri: /charset utf-807:20
KhantozavriI've istalled my language keyboard layout (georgian latin), and it doesnt tipe even (but shows symbol codes u2033, for istead)07:20
Khantozavriin console, I guess?....07:20
Vaportrailoh no, forget it07:21
coscohello. i tryed to install php-nuke on my ubuntu box , after i installed php4 and mysql and all i need. after i set up my config.php ( phpnuke config file ) and set up the mysql data base ..i try to open config.php and it says http://acasa.cosco.ro/php/html/index.php <- go here07:21
Vaportraili thought u ment irc07:21
jeffreybzenrox and lamont: That worked - Thanks!07:21
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Ensiferumhmm. anyone know how to solve the problem of not having any identified cd-rom drives. i have the links in / for cdrom(s). but i dont have the actual devices. I guess i have to use makedev, but how exactly?07:21
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trukuloEnsiferum: look in /dev07:21
coscohello. i tryed to install php-nuke on my ubuntu box , after i installed php4 and mysql and all i need. after i set up my config.php ( phpnuke config file ) and set up the mysql data base ..i try to open config.php and it says http://acasa.cosco.ro/php/html/index.php <- go here07:21
Ensiferumtrukulo: what there?07:21
trukuloEnsiferum: devices, that's where makedev make devices07:22
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trukulolook for hdc , or hdd, or what you have07:22
Ensiferumtrukulo: i know. i just dont have the devices there. thats the problem07:22
VaportrailKhantozavri, I m not ur man, dunno how07:22
trukuloin /dev ?07:22
Ensiferumyeah07:22
trukulowhat device is your cdrom ?07:22
Ensiferumsupposed to be /dev/hdc and /dev/hdd07:23
trukulotry ls -lh /dev/hdc07:23
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Ensiferumno such file07:23
coscohello. i tryed to install php-nuke on my ubuntu box , after i installed php4 and mysql and all i need. after i set up my config.php ( phpnuke config file ) and set up the mysql data base ..i try to open config.php and it says http://acasa.cosco.ro/php/html/index.php <- go here07:23
trukulough, that's bad07:23
trukuloso youre right, you need makedev07:23
Ensiferumyes, i know07:23
Ensiferumbut _how_ exactly07:23
Ensiferum:p07:23
trukuloit's a clean install ?07:24
Ensiferumyeah07:24
trukulowith warty?07:24
Ensiferumhowever i had some major problem with sata drives/cd-roms07:24
Ensiferumwarty yep07:24
neofeedI need some lowlevel help. My crappy Notebook keyboard does not have the `<,>,|' key. I'd like to map the `win' button to that. I think it should be possible anyone wnat to help me?07:24
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Ensiferumneofeed: xmodmap might help07:25
Ensiferumneofeed: and xev07:25
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jblackGuys, ubuntu is frigging awesome07:25
Khantozavriis there a way to install support for unicode, or it is already there?07:26
sensebendindeed jblack :)07:26
jblackIn all sense of fairness, that's a dogfood comment.07:26
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neofeedEnsiferum, k it's keycode 11507:27
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neofeedEnsiferum, and I guess I want to map it to 9407:27
yccobob2: around?07:28
Ensiferumneofeed: sorry, can help you more. it was just a push to _some_ direction :)07:28
Ensiferumcan't07:28
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bencovhi! I would like to try Ubuntu but before is Ubuntu stable/unstable using glibc2.3.2?07:29
neofeedEnsiferum, can You image how much it sucks to debug stuff withought the <,>,| symbols?07:29
Ensiferum debug?07:29
neofeedEnsiferum, well stuff liek xmodmap -pk |less07:30
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randabisgrr07:30
dudVersion: 2.3.2.ds1-19ubuntu4 on hoary bencov07:30
randabisI'm getting an error when extracting the new linux 2.6.10 kernel07:31
bencovdud: Thank you very much07:31
bretzelrandabis: Still on working for fb ?07:31
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jeffreybAny problems with installing VMware 4.5.2 on Warty? I've been reading forum and Ubuntu howto... seems OK but wanted some other opinions/ideas.07:32
dudheh, after burning a dvd movie with growisofs, totem tried to auto start07:32
randabisyeah07:32
dudweird having totem suddenly starting...07:32
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randabisI've decided I'm gonna go ahead and upgrade to 2.6.1007:32
randabisgetting this annoying error upon extraction though07:32
trey3randabis: what does it say?07:33
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yccomust.... get... networking... setup.... on... laptop... properly!#%@#%07:37
randabisit's rather long07:37
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randabisyou want me to post?07:37
bretzelrandabis: I want to see the errors - me too :-)07:37
trey3randabis: yes... preferably in a floodbot though...07:37
randabisfloodbot?07:38
randabisoh, I know what it is, nvm07:39
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MoianaGreetings, Ubuntu-lovers07:40
Moiana:)07:40
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trey3Moiana: hey07:40
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tuxerhi07:40
randabisseems I ran out of free space lol07:40
randabissorted it out07:41
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MoianaGreetings, trey307:42
Khantozavriis there a way to find out support information about unicode in ubuntu?07:42
trey3Guess it wasn't that important to him?  :/07:42
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randabissay, what's the command to make a debian kernel package?07:43
randabisafter I've done my make xconfig07:43
trey3randabis: man make-kpkg07:43
randabisoh yeah07:43
randabisthanks07:43
trey3(install kernel-package first)07:43
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randabisyeah I have it07:44
randabisI've done custom kernels before on this box, just forgot the command07:44
trey3:)07:44
trey3Its really Better (tm) to learn the Real way though... more useful to know if you go to other distro's  :)07:44
Moianatrey3: but debian kernel packaging is the 8th wonder of the world :)07:45
Moianaactually, debian packaging, kernel or software, is...07:46
trey3Moiana: I still am uncomfortable even having RPM installed... heh  ;)07:46
trey3stupid LSB  :(07:46
trey3Someone needs to write something that uses DEB and RPM as a backend, and state that in the LSB instead of the actual package format  :(07:47
trey3Even throw in TGZ etc too... one frontend for all the popular stuff... I guess LCC is working towards this though  :)07:48
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randabisyeah I know how to do it the real way trey07:49
randabis:) done many a suse kernel07:49
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yccohave I whined in the past 5 minutes about my problems with networking on my laptop?   http://occy.net/tmp/oddnetworkingissues_ubuntu07:50
trey3Progeny + Connectiva together = good for apt  8)07:50
smittyi'm trying to enable my universe. will someone tell me how?07:50
trukulosmitty: look in ubuntu wiki07:50
randabisshould be in there by default in synaptic, you just have to enable it07:50
smittyalready do07:51
trukulosmitty: so look better07:51
trukulo:)07:51
trey3smitty: in /etc/apt/sources.list, remove the # at the beginning of the line...07:51
yccosmitty: check out:  http://www.ubuntuguide.com/07:51
randabisyeah that's one way07:51
randabisI don't recommend doing what it says in ubuntuguide07:51
smittyhmm...default,synaptic...that's the most helpful info i've gotten yet07:51
randabisI think it enables hoary universe07:51
yccooh07:51
trukulohttp://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/UniversePackages/view?searchterm=universe07:51
smittyok....stop telling me to look in the guide. i spent hours looking at wiki...unofficial guides...please just save it07:52
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Guardiannsmitty hold on07:52
randabiseither do what trey said, or do it in synaptic07:52
randabisSettings --> Repositories07:53
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randabischeck the unchecked ones07:53
trey3smitty: in synaptic... click the check box to the side of the entry that has universe...07:53
trey3smitty: also... you may want to add multiverse to the line that states universe...07:54
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trey3multiverse = things like mplayer and flash etc...07:55
randabisYeah07:55
randabisI was gonna suggest that07:55
randabisheh, I accidently just did make-kpkg07:55
randabiswithout a kernel_image07:55
randabiswill it just do a default?07:56
trey3smitty: so in sources.list the line should state: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu warty universe multiverse  (with no trailing #)07:56
randabisguess I'll find out..hehe07:56
trey3randabis: it will install instead of creating a .deb so you can install...07:56
trey3in theory anyways... never actually tried it  :/07:56
randabishmm...07:57
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randabisso it will edit grub. etc?07:57
trey3randabis: no.07:57
trey3randabis: it will place things in /boot etc...07:57
randabisah07:57
fonz55good afternoon all07:58
trey3perfectly ok if you only have one box to set up...07:58
trey3fonz55: hey07:58
randabisI'd rather edit my menu.lst manually anyway07:58
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trey3randabis: or you could issue 'update-grub'  ;)07:59
randabisyeah07:59
Moianarandabis : you may want to make-kpkg binary   (plus other options, of course).  The07:59
randabisbut I wanna add my vga=791, etc07:59
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SeabookWho was talking about installing ubuntu on a Toshiba A70 a few days ago?07:59
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randabisI installed it on a Gateway solo 2250 laptop08:00
Moianarandabis : the 'binary' target  produces the packages for kernel_source, headers, doc and image08:00
randabisworks great08:00
COIN#ubuntu-fr08:00
randabisold 450 mhz p3 with 224 MB of ram...hehe08:00
trey3randabis: not really a 'but' worthy statement... update-grub and add it... still saves about 70 keystrokes  :)08:00
fonz55not me, I just installed it on an IBM T40p08:00
randabistrue dat08:00
randabisusually when I do this is does the update-grub automatically08:01
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smittythanks everyone.08:01
randabisshould be done compiling soon08:01
randabiswell it finished the bzimage, just doing the make install08:02
fonz55randabis:installing a new kernel is it?08:02
randabisyessir08:02
randabis2.6.1008:02
fonz55better08:02
randabisrunnin' 2.6.9 right now08:03
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fonz55hmm, me the standard one  2.6.8.1-3-386 (buildd@terranova)08:04
fonz55I will change it in a few days08:04
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fonz55I just setup ubuntu on my laptop and I am really enthousiastic08:05
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randabisme too :p08:05
trey3I thought I upgraded that08:05
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randabisrandabis-wireles is the laptop08:05
GFXstyLERhi08:05
GFXstyLERmy sound does not work08:06
Pozachi GFXstyLER08:06
fonz55hi there08:06
trey3bah... I did... I just didn't restart yet... lame  :(08:06
randabishaha08:06
Pozacwhat kind of sound card is it?08:06
GFXstyLERit works at the login screen but if i login08:06
randabisdon't forget your initrd08:06
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GFXstyLERvia ac97 or something like that08:06
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PozacGFXstyLER, Is your user in the 'audio' group ?08:07
GFXstyLERi dont know, i have a look08:07
GFXstyLERyes it is08:07
randabisalso, do Computer --> Desktop Preferences --> Sound --> Enable Sound Server Startup08:07
GFXstyLERi did08:08
randabishmm08:08
GFXstyLERbut after gdm it still wont work :)08:08
randabisvolume up?08:08
dudthis dvd will be interesting to check out...08:08
GFXstyLERyes08:08
randabishmm08:08
dudi aborted a k3b burn, and the drive just kept blinking08:08
Pozacwhats the output of lsof /dev/dsp ?08:08
dudnow ive opened k3b again, and started burning on the disc08:08
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dudit didnt complain...08:09
neeneehi everyone.08:09
randabisheh08:09
GFXstyLERif i try to play a file in xmms it wont work too08:09
randabissup neenee08:09
dudGFXstyLER, does lsmod show lots of sound modules as it should?08:09
neeneejust installing ubuntu is up randabis ;)08:09
randabiscoolness08:09
randabiswarty?08:10
GFXstyLERyes08:10
neeneeyes, but i want to install that other one08:10
neeneehoary or something08:10
neeneei am unsure about the correct name08:10
GFXstyLERsnd_via82xx08:10
randabisah, you can get a daily iso of it, but be warned...t'is unstable08:10
neeneei am trying to find which repositories to add to my sources.list08:10
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neeneei ran debian unstable08:10
randabisI'd put it on a seperate partition08:11
Guardiannwhere can you get the daily iso08:11
neeneeand gentoo before that08:11
randabisI like gentoo, but I hate compile times :p08:11
neenee:)08:11
trey3neenee: blah... not special... everyone who actually uses Debian uses Sid  :)08:11
randabisso ubuntu was a good fit08:11
neenee:)08:11
neeneetrey3: i doubt that, since then the other versions would no long be maintained08:11
trey3neenee: I've had more issues in ~2 months with hoary then I did in ~3 years with Sid though  :(08:11
trey3neenee: bah... they are maintained on principal...08:12
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randabishmm08:12
GFXstyLERbrb08:12
mparentiHow can I make "Computer" and "Wastebasket" appear on my gnome desktop?08:12
randabisupdate-grub didn't find the new kernel08:12
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randabisoh, wait08:12
randabisit did08:12
Vaportrailis it possible to set up the 4th and 5th mousebutton to act as back and forward buttons for nautilus, too, and not only 4 firefox?08:13
jeffreybIs Hoary release date in April?08:13
trey3neenee: developers and experienced users use sid... the paranoid use sarge... the people that haven't figured out how to upgrade complain about stable  :/08:13
rwabeldoes anyone also have the problem on hoary that apt wants to remove some of gnome and openoffice packages08:13
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randabisjust make-kpkg named it the wrong thing08:13
randabishaha08:13
trukulojeffreyb: on 04/200508:13
jeffreybyep - cool08:13
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neeneehm08:14
neeneei need to figure out how to start X08:14
neeneeegh08:14
neeneenot start08:14
trey3jeffreyb: hence the versioning  (5.04)08:14
neeneeapt-get it08:14
neeneei keep forgetting08:14
neeneeoh wait08:14
neeneeapt-cache search08:14
kosmonauttiI don't remember the address of one site, which I found from the Ubuntu Forums. It's a howto which shows you how to install nvidia/ati 3D acceleration drivers all the way till the 32-bit chroot environment. Do you know the address of that site?08:14
neeneenever mind me08:14
trey3neenee: apt-get install x-window-system-core08:14
neeneethx08:14
mparentiI have a PowerBook G4 and I want to hook it up to a monitor, but when I try it doesn't show anything on the monitor.  How can I get it to work?08:15
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dudtalking about bits... im thinking about getting an amd 64bit cpu08:15
GFXstyLERi got 1 soundfile to work08:15
kosmonauttidud: Great choice08:15
dudhows ubuntu with 64bit?08:15
GFXstyLERits the gdm login sound08:15
dudnice and stable?08:15
PozacGFXstyLER, no clicking sound when press buttons ?08:15
kosmonauttidud: Nice!!! About stable not sure yet and the chroot vs. 32-bit emulation libraries are the cons.08:15
GFXstyLERno08:15
trey3dud: apparently the best Debian based @ 64bit...08:16
GFXstyLERbut:08:16
kosmonauttitrey3: Agree.08:16
dudkosmonautti, the what chroot what? hehe08:16
dudfill me in...08:16
Ensiferumat which point are the devices in /dev updatet when booting up. (system is using devfs)08:16
bretzelHey randabis: going to try DVD-install of hoary! :-)08:16
dudtrey3, hmm08:16
trey3Ensiferum: why oh why are you using devfs?08:16
randabiscool] 08:16
kosmonauttiUbuntu is at least the best looking :)08:16
PozacGFXstyLER, for mp3s, flash, etc http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats08:17
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Ensiferumtrey3: dunno. isnt that what ubuntu system is using?08:17
trey3kosmonautti: bah... I don't talk of looks...08:17
trey3Ensiferum: no08:17
neeneestarting X now08:17
trey3Ensiferum: udev08:17
bretzelwill give news about after install...08:17
GFXstyLERif i go to "computer/system configuration/login screen settings/" and then after "security" you can select if you want to have a soundfile played if the login screen is ready or not08:17
Ensiferumtrey3: what's that then?08:17
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trey3Ensiferum: userland devfs basically...08:17
kosmonauttiWhere's the site with the starter howto for ubuntu users?08:17
GFXstyLERand i can play that sound08:17
trey3Ensiferum: replaced devfs @ 2.6.8 if I recall08:17
dudGFXstyLER, you might have an issue similar to mine a few days ago08:18
Ensiferumtrey3: how can i see then what i'm using?08:18
dudbasically kde apps destroyed the alsa sound driver08:18
GFXstyLERand if i select any other sound files i can play them like that too08:18
trey3Ensiferum: you're using udev if you don't know...08:18
dudbut left ESD running08:18
GFXstyLERdud: what was your problem?08:18
dudi just disabled all kde sound events08:18
neeneehm08:18
GFXstyLERi dont have kde08:18
dudno kde apps either?08:18
neeneehow is the display manager called? i want to use ~/.xinitrc instead08:19
GFXstyLERno08:19
dudlike k3b or similar08:19
Ensiferumtrey3: mkay. well any ideas how to fix the problem then?08:19
GFXstyLERno :)08:19
dudokies, guess thats not it then08:19
xukunhow can I upgrade things in ubuntu without compromising security?08:19
mgedminneenee: you can use ~/.xsessionrc08:19
neighborleewhere is java integration at or if no one knows where can I read about its status ?08:19
neeneeokay08:19
dudbut if the ubuntu system sounds works, its a good chance that ESD is working08:19
mgedminneenee, oops, I meant ~/.xsession08:19
trey3Ensiferum: nope... didn't catch the issue  :(08:19
mgedminno rc at the end08:19
neeneeok08:19
GFXstyLERmaybe i have to use the "loginscreen settings" window as music player now *lol*08:19
neeneedoesn't exist though08:19
dudmost sound players use oss or alsa, but gnome uses esd08:19
mgedmincreate it08:19
willneighborlee: java is a restricted format08:19
neeneehm08:20
PozacTheres a .gnomerc08:20
mgedminand then select session 'default' in gdm08:20
kosmonauttiThe website is like this here, but it covers more stuff: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3713. Where is it? :///08:20
GFXstyLERhow can i get esd ?08:20
Ensiferumtrey3: kernel doesnt pick up my cd-rom drives. so basically i dont have the devices in /dev08:20
dudGFXstyLER, you have esd :)08:20
neighborleewill, not to those that need it and not to distros like mepis and suse and others...08:20
GFXstyLERand how can i use it?08:20
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dudi dont know how you'd go about changing which sound dmons your apps will use...08:20
dudgoogle around for it08:21
GFXstyLERok08:21
trey3Ensiferum: modprobe ide-cd ; what does it say?08:21
willneighborlee: its coming in hoary :) : http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/JavaIntegration/view?searchterm=java08:21
Ensiferumtrey3: nothing, so it installed i suppose08:21
neighborleewill, k thats what i was wondering thx...08:21
Pozactrey3, alsa's software multiplexing (or what its called) is not yet stable08:21
trey3Ensiferum: lsmod | grep ide-cd08:21
trey3Pozac: I disagree... this is the method Fedora uses... works fine.08:22
Ensiferumtrey3: finds nothing08:22
willneighborlee its pisses me off too!08:22
Ensiferumtrey3: however lsmod | grep ide_cd finds the module08:22
dudalso try 'sudo lshw' Ensiferum08:22
dudsee if it sees your cdroms08:22
neighborleewill, heh...well ubuntu ROCKS me yeah ill be very elated to see java08:22
neeneedoesn't java work then?08:22
trey3Ensiferum: hmm... then theoretically, the cdrom should be there.... /dev/hdc...08:23
neighborleeneenee, after you jump through hoops yes..08:23
neeneei setup java this afternoon with debian.. shouldn't be that difficult with ubuntu?08:23
neighborleeneenee, hoops with suzie wont do08:23
willneenee: yes it works, its a cross platform language/machine08:23
Ensiferumdud: that's a great command!08:23
neighborleeneenee, but it will soon be moot point ;-) thankfully08:23
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dudlshw rocks ;)08:23
trey3will: just because its proposed doesn't mean it will be accepted...08:23
randabisbrb08:24
randabisgonna reboot into 2.6.1008:24
Ensiferumtrey3: is the udev supposed to create the devices when kernel loads a certain module. and the kernel module load should be triggered by a hardware, or..?08:24
Guardiannwhat kernel is in hoary08:24
neeneehm08:24
neighborleeEnsiferum, YES08:24
neeneeare there localized hoary repositories08:25
willtrey: thats true, but hopefully they will work towards it :)08:25
neighborleeEnsiferum, I mean,,yes..sorry my caps went on accidentily08:25
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dud2.6.9 isnt it?08:25
Ensiferumneighborlee: np08:25
kosmonauttiReally, are there any after installation howto's to get new users started except the one found from Ubuntu FAQ forums?08:25
trey3Ensiferum: I'm really not the person to ask about specifics... basically... hal pics up that the hardware is there, dbus pokes udev, and udev creates the pointer...08:25
Pozacalso 2.6.1008:25
trey3Thats as far as my understanding stretches though...08:25
trey3picks*08:25
sjoerdtrey3: it's exactly the other way around08:25
Guardiannhttp://www.ubuntuguide.org/       kosmonautti  try there08:25
trey3sjoerd: care to elaborate?08:26
neighborleetrey3, there is no choice about integrating java unless we dont want to see ubuntu succede..heck linux in general ;-)08:26
dudi just hate sun and java08:26
dudnothing personal, but i just hate it08:26
dudalways have, always will08:26
trey3neighborlee: I disagree... the only distro that currently installs Java off the bat is SUSE... and they suck...08:26
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neighborleeno I think mepis does too08:26
neeneeegh08:26
willwho wants to try suns ljava linux!?!?08:26
dudjava is a slow and moronic language imho08:26
=== neighborlee uses ibm java which is BETTER anyway
neeneecan someone paste me a deb link for a hoary repository?08:26
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GFXstyLERi cant play video files either08:27
neighborleedud, yes but tons of websites USE IT08:27
trey3neighborlee: bah... ok... but both suck... so my point still counts...08:27
kosmonauttiDoes the nvidia drivers howto found from ubuntu guide work for the AMD64 version in the exact same way?08:27
sjoerdtrey3: hotplug and udev get pushed by the kernel when there is a new device.. udev creates the device node, hotplug does some other stuff if needed.. both send events to hal which merges all the info08:27
GFXstyLERso no sound, no video ...08:27
kezzdud, don't flamebait08:27
willdud: its the JVM thats slow, not the language08:27
dudkezz, heh...08:27
trey3neighborlee: tons of sites use JavaScript... thats included...08:27
neighborleetrey3, tell that to suzie homemaker or the countless 'converts' we lost08:27
neighborleetrey3, no..is not08:27
xukuntrey3: what about kanotix?08:27
trey3sjoerd: ahh... thanks  :)08:27
neighborleetrey3, you must go through a arcane install procedure so dont tell me its included08:27
dudneenee, just follow the wiki page on upgrading to hoary08:28
bretzelDVD-hoary jan-2005 seems to install well, but it was unable to start the framebuffer ...08:28
dudits real simple08:28
neighborleexukun, not sure..but kanotis makes alot of things easier to install with tons of scripts...08:28
neeneedud: i will try, but lynx is not very nice to me :)08:28
trey3xukun: I have never even looked into Kanotix... which should tell you how successful it is... I have tried over 30 distros...08:28
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xukunneighborlee: and why is that bad? easy for lot us out there08:29
GFXstyLERlol i guess reinstalling ubuntu will solve my problem08:29
xukuntrench: looking at it wouldnt heart anybody08:29
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dudhas anyone else experienced slow dvd burning speeds on ubuntu?08:29
GFXstyLERits always like that, reinstalling, and it suddenly works, maybe ubuntu has something like a randomizer that chooses if something works or not08:29
kosmonauttiHow would you recommend quitting Gnome for the time when I install nvidia drivers and change XF86Config-4 ?08:29
dudcd burning is fine, but dvd is so damn slow for me :(08:29
neighborleexukun, thats my points ..its not bad..;-))08:29
xukuntrey3: : looking at it wouldnt heart anybody08:29
gangalinowhat's the path for gcc on Warty?08:30
trey3xukun: true enough... I've had no reason to yet though...08:30
bretzelAnd.. I am actually erasing my Fedora installation :-) now my P4 computer have Two ubuntu linux + the M$-winxp08:30
trey3gangalino: apt-get install build-essential08:30
neighborleexukun, ubuntu makes most things pretty darn easy which is its entire point..I hope they add java to the easy list08:30
dudkosmonautti, ctrl+alt+backspace?08:30
neeneedamnit08:30
neeneedud: the search function on the ubuntu wiki page does not work in lynx.08:30
trey3neighborlee: thats funny... Debian is considered one of the hardest distro's around... but Ubuntu is NO different... I'm confused...08:30
xukuntrey3: I have tried it and using a long time along with ubuntu for my laptop and its realy gread08:31
gangalino33: synaptic shows gcc3.4 base installed08:31
trey3Ubuntu = customized subset of Debian packages....08:31
bretzelneighborlee: Isn't java ok ? ( the actuall j2rsdk5 )08:31
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trey3bretzel: personally I don't think Java is hard to install at all... he apparently disagrees...08:31
xukunneighborlee: I see your point08:31
crimsungangalino: you need to install 'build-essential'. `sudo apt-get install build-essential'08:32
trey3xukun: care to elaborate for the rest of us?  :P08:32
Pozactrey3, Ubuntu = easy + apt + ancient init system08:32
trey3Pozac: umm... its no easier than Debian  :/08:32
xukuntrey3: what?08:32
crimsunhey, that "ancient init system" works great ;P08:32
neeneegeez.08:32
bretzeltrey3: I dont get it because once it is installed, it just works ... I did install the jsdk version 5 and it seems ok08:32
trey3Pozac: and apt and ancient init system = Debian traits...08:32
Pozacyeah, except when you need to change something08:32
neighborleetrey3, ubuntu is entirely different..EASY to install ..most things just 'work' out of the box including alot of devices ...PLUS we get gnome2.8..anyway ubuntu rocks..I said so months ago and still feel that way..but we need java easier to install because we 'are' a easy to use distro...;-)....I think though we should shoot for IBM not sun08:33
Pozactrey3, yup08:33
dudneenee, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GuideToHoary08:33
gangalinocrimsun: isn't it also available in Synaptic Pkg. Mgr? which one can I install? gcc3.4?08:33
crimsungangalino: sure, it's available. Just search for and install 'build-essential'.08:33
Ensiferumjust booted after messing up with MAKEDEV. system does load ide_generic, ide_disk and ide_cd. but, yet there's no device in /dev. neither do i seem them probed if listing kernel messages with dmesg. what gives?08:33
dudif this disc work, ill donate $50 to the flood victims08:34
trey3neighborlee: Ubuntu uses debian-installer... try getting a Sarge netinstall disc08:34
dudfairly certain it wont heh08:34
kezzanybody installed monodevelop on ubuntu ppc?08:34
bretzelneighborlee: Ah I get it :-) There are missing tools for java then...But the base is there and ok tho08:34
randabis-wirelesdammit08:34
zerokarmaleftthe greatest thing i like about ubuntu is adherence to debian policy for packaging but not adherence to debian extreme anal-retentiveness when it comes to choosing which packages to include in a stable distro version08:34
trey3neighborlee: I actually dislike the installer on account of it doesn't let me set domain or select my own packages...08:35
neighborleethats another thing..if we dont include the 'essential' stuff..I think it would be nice to 'include' it in synaptic at first start as optional niceities for those that dont know about them ....i'd really like to see ubuntu climb the'easy to use' ladde and give M$ a run for its money ( competition is GOOD in this case <wink>008:35
randabis-wirelesmy nforce drivers won't install08:35
bretzelrandabis: ? :-)08:35
trey3neighborlee: those two substractions = the only differences though...08:35
bretzeloh!08:35
randabis-wirelesthe modules won't create08:35
randabis-wirelesso no network or sound on the main box08:35
neighborleetrey3, the installer could be better yes..I think ( unlesss they have loftier plans) they might be well served to adopt use of 'anaconda' possibly like many others  have08:35
Pozacrandabis-wireles, whats wrong with the one in restriced-modules ?08:35
neeneedud: thanks.08:35
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trey3neighborlee: if you want anaconda for Debian... use Progeny.08:36
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randabis-wirelesit's old i think08:36
dudnp neenee08:36
Pozachmm08:36
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neighborleetrey3, no..progenhy is too bleeding edge like FC...I tried it once ..I couldn't even get a install to work..NO THANKS ;-)08:36
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trey3neighborlee: work is going into creating a GTK interface for d-i... however I don't see how it can be much easier?08:37
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neighborleetrey3, no we need to concentrate on making ubuntu great...it already is but with a bit of a nudge it will be something M$ users consider 'upgrading' to <wink>08:37
xukunneighborlee: ist hoary alos bleeding edge?08:37
xukunalso08:37
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neighborleeI dont know..i'm not using it..I downloaded warty months ago and still use it...08:37
trey3neighborlee: I use Hoary... when I use Debian, I use Sid... old software makes me cry08:37
randabis-wirelesi tried copying the old modules over but that don'twork obviously08:37
neighborleetrey3, heh yes debian is known for this sadness which is why ubuntu is clearly ahead of the curve on this08:38
neighborleetrey3, what is d-i ?08:38
lavigjhow much space does ubuntu need on a laptop to really get a feel for it? I need mostly office type apps, email, web, chat.08:38
trey3neighborlee: debian-installer08:38
kezzdebian-installer08:38
neighborleeahhhhh08:38
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trey3the installer you used when you installed Ubuntu08:38
lavigjwould ~10GB be enough?08:38
neighborleetrey3, well..to US its easy...to suzie its HARD08:38
xukunneighborlee: which version of mozzilla-firefox are you using?08:38
kezzlavigj, easily enough08:38
neighborleetrey3, we are just used to it cause we're all l33t08:39
trey3neighborlee: its really not though08:39
neighborleeLOL08:39
trey3neighborlee: and I'm not l33t08:39
lavigjkezz: ok, it is my only windows box and as windows likes to replicate, I don't want to cramp it too much :)08:39
kezzlavigj,08:39
trey3neighborlee: d-i asks less questions than the CLI interface for XP... its really not hard.08:39
kezzFilesystem           1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on08:39
kezz/dev/hda4             16164716   1944452  13399124  13% /08:39
neighborleetrey3, true its much 'easier' now but its still nowhere near as easy as installing MDK or SUSE or Fedoracore for example..or even vidalinux or libranet probably08:39
trey3neighborlee: haha @ saying mandrakes installer is easy...08:39
Ensiferumdud: lshw doesnt show the cdroms.08:40
trey3I found it to be the hardest distro around to install08:40
neighborleetrey3, no i was saying the current warty installer...i'm all for d-i if it truly makes a nice easy install possible for those wanting it and leaves a power install for us l33ters LOL08:40
lavigjkezz is that what you are using?08:40
trey3Its pretty... but it sure as hell isn't easy08:40
neighborleetrey3, well it is LOL..have you tried it?08:40
lavigjkezz: for space08:40
kezzlavigj, yes08:40
lavigjkezz: ok, so not bad at all then08:40
kezzlavigj, its usable now with 2 gig used so 10 gig is easily enough08:40
lavigjkezz: cool. Thanks.08:40
trey3neighborlee: yes... I wouldn't state "I found it to be the hardest distro around to install" if I hadn't tried it.08:41
lavigjkezz: I usually use gentoo which is a bit disc hungry at times, but I wanted to try something else and didn't want to short myself too much on space08:41
neighborleetrey3, anyway thats great news about d-i gtk based installer..berry glad to hear that ;-)08:41
trey3neighborlee: why? it just means it will take longer to install  :/08:41
neighborleetrey3, its no h arder than suse or fedora I dont think..but we all have our own ideas about things08:41
gangalinowhere are the "C header files" in Warty?08:41
kezzlavigj, yeah my ibook and gentoo don't get on too well08:42
randabis-wirelesoh, and i can't use those restricted modules with a 2.6.10 kernel08:42
neighborleetrey3, you miss the point....suzie could care LESS as long as she isn't 'forced into using terminal crap'08:42
kezzgangalino, /usr/include08:42
trey3neighborlee: Anaconda is a nice installer... Yast is heavy, but pretty easy... Mandrakes installer is just badly thought out.08:42
lavigjkezz: wierd. I really like gentoo and have had a lot of success with it... I just wanted to try something other than a source based distro on the laptop since it isn't quite so beefy.08:42
neeneedo i have to uncomment that universe thing to install xorg?08:42
gangalinoThe header files in /usr/include are generally for C libraries, not for the08:43
gangalinorunning kernel. If you do not have kernel header files in your /usr/src08:43
gangalinodirectory, you probably do not have the kernel-source package installed. Are yousure that /usr/include contains the header files associated with your running08:43
gangalinokernel? [no] 08:43
trey3neighborlee: XP forces uses to answer more complicated questions... difference being they sell preinstalled on shelves.08:43
neighborleetrey3, yeah it is in some places but easy is still relevant ;-)08:43
trey3Thats the answer... not making installers clunky and "pretty"...08:43
lavigjkezz: do you like the package management in ubuntu?08:43
neighborleetrey3, yes i'm not fond of xp's installer either08:43
neighborleetrey3, but then who is ..hahaha08:43
kezzlavigj, yes apt is really nice08:43
trey3neighborlee: Suzie shouldn't need to install her own box... it should come pre installed08:43
lavigjkezz: cool. this is a Good Thing (TM)08:43
kezzlavigj, its the best desktop linux ive come across08:44
neighborleetrey3, point is clear I think ;-)..easier is good if we care at all about attracting new users which > more vendor support ..assuming 'enough' of us care08:44
Cloudchaserhmmm i tried to install swat (samba config tool) but i get a broken depends msg08:44
kezzlavigj, esp for my laptop08:44
lavigjkezz: anyway, thanks for the input. I need to get going but I appreciate the info.08:44
kezznp08:44
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neeneeit's not only attracting new users, but keeping them..08:44
randabis-wirelesman08:44
randabis-wirelesthis sucks08:44
trey3neighborlee: where you and I disagree is what "easy" means... easy to me = not complicated; easy to you = not intimidating to look at...08:44
randabis-wireleswhy the hell won't the modules get created...08:44
lavigjkezz: actually, one more question. do you have a prism based wireless card?08:45
neighborleetrey3, ic08:45
kezzlavigj, i have a couple of usb adapters but i left them at uni so i haven't tried em yet08:45
neenee(anyone on the universe line question?)08:45
kezzthey use prism2 chipsets08:45
trey3neighborlee: you can safely just keep hitting enter with Ubuntu's installer... and likely hood is it will work...08:45
kezzlavigj, i believe ndiswrapper works ok with ubuntu tho i haven't tried it yet08:45
neighborleetrey3, well all i'm saying is if its easy enough ( lets compare it to linspire or xandros easy of install..3 clicks and your  done IF you want) for a average housewife or NON programer..then GUESS how many vendors will start supporting linux ..its not rocket science man ;-)08:46
trey3This is a little less complicated than any other installer I can name...08:46
lavigjkezz: ok. I was just wondering. I don't have experience with wireless under linux08:46
Pozacneenee, do you have hoary?08:46
lavigjkezz: yet08:46
neeneePozac: i am upgrading to it at the moment08:46
Pozacneenee, I don't think X.Org is in warty08:46
kezzlavigj, good luck (you'll need it)08:46
neeneePozac: it does not seem to be in hoary either08:46
dudfor complicated installer, try the netbsd 1.6 or similar :O08:46
trey3Pozac: its not...  :)08:46
lavigjkezz: thanks08:46
dudor the old 4.0ish freebsd installer08:46
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neighborleetrey3, anyway ill be glad to see this new gtk  based installer..the current one is honkey dorey for me but the option coming is def. nice08:47
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dudxorg is in hoary08:47
Vaportrailis it possible to slow down the mouse under x (not gnome)?08:47
dudcalled xserver-xorg08:47
trey3neighborlee: Its basically exactly the same, but using GTK widgets...  ;/08:47
yccoanyone here know all the network config files under Ubuntu?08:47
randabis-wireles:(08:47
neighborleetrey3, so its more of a 'pretty up' than anything else ??08:48
randabis-wirelesthe log don't tell me much08:48
Pozacycco, what are you looking for?08:48
neeneeVaportrail: yes08:48
neofeedwhere are the keymaps stored in ubuntu?08:48
gangalinohow do I get the C header / kernel sources files?08:48
yccoPozac: http://occy.net/tmp/oddnetworkingissues_ubuntu  please look at that.08:48
neeneeVaportrail: but i do not know the settings by heart, and i do not have a proper browser to find a link for you.08:48
yccoPozac: need to find out why it's different08:48
Pozacycco, can do08:48
dudgangalino, kernel-headers kernel-source08:48
trey3neighborlee: I wouldn't even call it that... ncurses is nice imo08:48
dudapt-get packages that is08:48
neighborleetrey3, for most of us prob. yes thats true enough08:48
Vaportrailneenee and I do not have the skill to find it myself :P08:49
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neeneeVaportrail: sure you do08:49
yccoPozac: I'm having routing issues there on my laptop. :/08:49
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gangalinothx, dud08:49
Vaportrailneenee you don't meen xset?08:49
randabis-wirelesguess it's time for some googling08:49
Ensiferumtrey3: you got any ideas how to make the kernel probe this particular ide channel. looks like that this is the problem in question.08:49
dudVaportrail, just google for "mouse speed x server" or something08:49
Cloudchaserneighborlee, i think there are a few distros aimed at linux newbies, the question is....is ubuntu one of them and is that an official goal of ubuntu?08:49
neeneeVaportrail: hm.. that might be part of the command08:49
trey3ycco: wireless? settings seem the same  :/08:49
neeneeVaportrail: xset m something perhaps08:49
Vaportrailneenee yes, but that can't make it slower, only faster then it is :(08:50
trey3Ensiferum: sorry  :(08:50
Pozacycco, hmm.. that looks fine08:50
Pozacycco, whats the routing issues?08:50
neeneeVaportrail: you could run gnome-settings-daemon beneath whatever window manager you use08:50
trey3Cloudchaser: Ubuntu = KISS... afaict at least...08:50
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Pozacycco, nothing works or?08:50
Cloudchaserneighborlee, i read the "Welcome to Ubunutu" statement on the web page08:51
trey3Cloudchaser: I don't really think there is a specific target audiance other than those that like simplicity...08:51
Cloudchaserit doesn't say anything about "easy"08:51
Cloudchaserit speaks about "free"08:51
Vaportrailneenee hmm, but that only does it for gnome or? not for x in general?08:51
gangalinouname -a gives me 2.6.8.1-3-386 which kernel header do I choose?08:51
yccoPozac: it works.. just super laggy08:51
trey3gangalino: that would be -r08:51
maps73hy...08:51
Cloudchaserif it is an official goal to be easy, it needs to have some things addressed08:51
crimsungangalino: linux-headers-`uname -r`08:51
yccoPozac: I installed at a friends house who has dhcp setup.08:51
yccoI don't have dhcp setup here.08:51
siretartgangalino: use kernel-headers-$(uname -r)08:51
Cloudchaserand in this case, free and easy don't go hand in hand08:51
maps73i've got a question about a mp3 player08:52
neeneeVaportrail: it would work for x in general08:52
gangalino sudo apt-get install kernel-headers doesn't give me a choice for 2.6.8x08:52
Ensiferumtrey3: :/08:52
neeneeVaportrail: add exec gnome-settings-daemon & to your .xinitrc08:52
trey3Cloudchaser: "easy" as a goal = not my type of distro.... I like simplicity... people that try to make things "easy" usually just make things take longer  :/08:52
neighborleeCloudchaser, hmm I didn't know that..true you are correct then08:52
Cloudchasertrey3, you're not a linux new person08:52
trey3Case in point: wizards...08:52
neighborleeCloudchaser, ill have to give that a read08:52
Cloudchasermy point and neighborlee08:53
Cloudchaseri think08:53
dudi ran slackware for a long time. thats a simple as it gets08:53
Cloudchaseris08:53
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Vaportrailneenee ogt it, xset m does it with broken numbers08:53
randabis-wirelesgrrr08:53
Cloudchaseri recommend linux to someone08:53
dudin the end, it just became too much hassle on a daily basis08:53
Vaportrailneenee like xset m 1/4 1/408:53
bretzelsh*t! the haory DVD install fails at the grub install! Grub is uninstallable ! ?08:53
crimsungangalino: please see what I typed.08:53
Cloudchaserthey get it installed, all excited, go to their internet game site and then...08:53
Cloudchaserit doesn't work08:53
neighborleeCloudchaser, i'd heard in reviews and what not that easy was a goal but..if its not it should be addressed and I think overall it is easy but def. not everything....:(..yet anyway ;-)08:53
trey3dud: no... slack makes you do too much to be classified "simple"... without third party tools like swaret or slapt-get... slack is a pain to run...08:53
Cloudchaserso in windows, they'd get a message saying they need java08:54
crimsunsiretart: remember to recommend linux-* for ubuntu instead of Debian's kernel-*08:54
trey3dud: Debian's strong-suit = debconf... nothing competes with it.08:54
Cloudchaserand they click ok and it installs and they're happy08:54
Cloudchaserbut in linux...its not so08:54
neighborleeCloudchaser, yeah true....flash is fairly easy to deal with ( even in windows it must be installed) but yeah java is ridicously hard to dea with in most linux distros..but that will change if 'I' have anything to say about i t08:54
yccoPozac: posted my hosts files too08:54
Cloudchaseryes flash works via internet installer08:54
neighborleeCloudchaser, I may not have TONS of pull but i'm def. NOT afraid to shoot off my mouth <G>08:54
Pozacycco, how about your resolv.conf files?08:54
neighborleeCloudchaser, hahah08:54
yccosec08:55
Cloudchaserwell good luck with it neighborlee ;)08:55
neighborleeCloudchaser, thx..Ill need it <wink>08:55
yccoPozac: they are fine with my ISP's DNS.08:55
Cloudchasernow the newb goes to a news site and wants to watch a news clip08:55
yccoPozac: same as my desktop which is working great.08:55
Cloudchaseroh holy toledo you lost them!08:55
Pozacycco, fine ok :)08:55
neighborleeCloudchaser, java 'almost' works in fireworks..but not quite..if that worked then debian would have one less thing to worry about08:55
Cloudchaserheck i'm still fighting with it when i get time to get all the medias worked out08:55
Cloudchaserso back they go to windows08:56
neighborleeCloudchaser, be nice if flash install worked in firworks too..I think it does in windows but not sure..<<08:56
Cloudchaserwhats fireworks?08:56
Pozacycco, where are the hosts files?08:56
gangalinocrimsun: what did you type? I have my kernel version, but apt kernel-headers doesn't provide a choice for my version, which is 2.6.8x08:56
neighborleeoops08:56
Cloudchaseri installed flash on rh when the msg came up that i needed it08:56
trey3Cloudchaser: firefox to people that aren't knowledgable  ;)08:56
neighborleeCloudchaser, sorry not fireworks LOL..I have that app on the mind LOL..I  mean: fire'fox' ROFL08:56
Pozacycco, maybe also output of ifconfig08:57
Cloudchaserhehe08:57
yccoPozac: in  occy.net/tmp08:57
neighborleetrey3, hey now that aint nice ..ROFL08:57
yccoPozac: k08:57
Cloudchaseri like ubuntu alot08:57
trey3neighborlee: its a true statement though is it not?  :)08:57
Pozacah ok08:57
neighborleetrey3, depends how you meant it08:57
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Cloudchaserand i think some day it might be "easy" for newbs08:58
trey3Cloudchaser: I like GNOME 2.9 and Xorg... different reasons to use Ubuntu I guess  :)08:58
Cloudchaserbut now isn't the time08:58
Cloudchasersome little kinks to work out i think08:58
bretzelWhat special with Gonme 2.9  against 2.8 ?08:58
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neighborleeCloudchaser, someone coming from windows WOULD indeed not finding ubuntu 'easy'...totally agree08:58
trey3bretzel: its newer and shinnier  :)08:58
neighborleeCloudchaser, my hope is ubuntu fullly knows this and are working on it..but its dain close ;-))08:58
yccoPozac: k, ifconfig-laptop  and ifconfig-desktop08:58
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trey3bretzel: other than that... most noticable changes are down to GTK 2.6 ...08:59
Cloudchaserwell there's some other things missing besides just media and java ease08:59
trey3Cloudchaser: like what?08:59
bretzel:-) GNome with 2.8 ubuntu is already greater than never and beats KDE in other KDE distros ... so It's hard for me to guess what is better in 2.9 :-) :-)08:59
gangalinomedia is a big thing08:59
crimsungangalino: linux-headers-`uname -r`08:59
trey3One thing I believe is laking for instance = when you click on a .deb... you should get a dialogue asking whether to install...09:00
siretartcrimsun: pardon. your completly right09:00
trey3Thats about the only thing I see is missing...09:00
gangalinocrimsun: cwa2@mombassa:~/downloads/vmware-distrib $ uname -r09:00
gangalino2.6.8.1-3-38609:00
Cloudchaserwell i'm not quite sure "what" is the issue.. but connecting to other windows pc's, network browsing, samba config is a nightmare09:00
Cloudchaserswat is broken09:00
trey3swat has been broken for years...09:00
bretzelIn hoary installcd, is Lilo working ? because Grub is scewed I had to restart the installation09:00
Pozacycco, hmm, that seems mighty fine09:00
trey3A frontend for Samba might be a good thing though...?09:00
Cloudchaserit doesn't even install trey09:00
Vaportrailthere is a hoary install cd?09:01
Cloudchaseryes a frontend built in09:01
crimsungangalino: install linux-headers-`uname -r`09:01
Cloudchaserits sorta kinda there but not finished i guess09:01
trey3I am all for making things easier etc... read: take less time/steps though...09:01
yccoPozac: I didn't have an /etc/networks file09:01
ycco!!!09:01
bretzel\trye3: gnomba ? ( client ) and smbmount for server09:01
yccohmm09:01
yccostill seems to be some lag though09:01
Cloudchaserthere's an option for windows networking09:01
Vaportrailmkay09:01
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Pozacycco, I dont have it either :)09:01
yccoPozac: I have it on my desktop09:01
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crimsunycco: did you ever resolve your 1400x1050 issue?09:02
bretzeloh! I see kernel 2.6.10 in the hoary installation!!! the sources are being installed!09:02
Gwildor|WorkFYI, adobe had a pdf viewer for linux coming out soon....its beta ATM09:02
Cloudchaserbut, at least on my machine, network browser is not working..i think thats nautilus bug09:02
trey3bretzel: no... if its not part of Nautilus/GNOME itself, you can't consider it a solution...09:02
Pozacycco, hmm09:02
yccocrimsun: YES!09:02
crimsunycco: excellent09:02
yccocrimsun: occy.net/insprion750009:02
yccocrimsun: go read that for a chuckle09:02
CloudchaserGwildor|Work, i have adobe's pdf reader installed along with the plugin09:02
neighborleeCloudchaser, nautilus was great idea but its just too slow I find..even on my PIV2.26 with one gig of ram ;-)09:02
trey3bretzel: maybe GNOMBA is going in the right direction... but nautilus is where you go in GNOME to deal with files...09:02
Pozacnautilus too slow?09:03
neighborleeCloudchaser, buts its integration idea is slick indeed...09:03
ycconow the issues I'm having are with networking and my battery not showing up...09:03
Vaportrailgrml xset m 1/4 1/4 ends in negative acceleration :(09:03
bretzeltrey3: ah, its ok, it should be not difficult to implement samba in nautilus for the coders... :-) I would do it meself but no time and too much API to learn09:03
Cloudchaseri don't know what gnomba is09:03
yccoPozac: naw... just typing while ssh'ed in shouldn't lag09:03
trey3neighborlee: that was true years ago... Nautilus is one of the most responsive components of GNOME today though :/09:03
neighborleePozac, although I should prob. turh off the icon preview of files ;(..09:03
trey3bretzel: :)09:03
neighborleetrey3, welllll possibly but NOT if you have on icon preview09:03
neighborleetrey3, which btw IS the defaut action09:03
Cloudchaseri get permissions error when i try to browse my network09:03
gangalinocrimsun: I appreciate you working with me. But do you mean "sudo apt-get install kernel-headers-2.6.8.1-3-386"?09:04
trey3neighborlee: yes... and its still fast to me... and I'm on a 950 duron  :/09:04
crimsungangalino: no, I mean: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`09:04
Pozacneighborlee, Also not count items in folder.. a bit rough on the ol' disk09:04
trey3gangalino: yes...09:04
neighborleetrey3, well on some large DIR's..its takes forever to load up....09:04
gangalinosudo apt-get install kernel-headers- 'uname -r'09:04
gangalinoReading Package Lists... Done09:04
gangalinoBuilding Dependency Tree... Done09:04
gangalinoPackage kernel-headers is not installed, so not removed09:04
trey3crimsun: same difference... just one is smarter  :)09:04
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Cloudchaserthat it does neighborlee09:04
bretzeltrey3: Do you know if lilo is well in hoary ? because there are errors in process on installing grub in my copy of hoary-dvd09:05
neighborleetrey3, the icon preview is nice but its a bit slow on load time <G>09:05
Cloudchaserwhen i mount an smb share it takes a while to load up the dir09:05
crimsungangalino: my use of back ticks is essential09:05
gangalinooh I see09:05
trey3bretzel: yes... its the default for XFS formatted /boot for instance...09:05
crimsun(or you could use linux-headers-$(uname -r) )09:05
Pozacor run uname -r first09:05
trey3(don't ask me why I decided to format /boot as XFS... couldn't tell ya)09:06
bretzelgood then I hope it will not fails for that too :-(09:06
trey3Pozac: no... that adds another step...09:06
yccoPozac or crimsun  You guys know how I can completely wipe my network settings and reconfigure them from scratch?09:06
crimsunycco: yeah, you'll be cleaning out /etc/network/interfaces09:06
yccocrimsun: no worries09:07
trey3ycco: rm /etc/network/interfaces && touch /etc/network interfaces09:07
trey3although I don't recommend it09:07
Pozachmm09:07
dudheh, the localization on my ubuntu is so majorly messed up :O09:07
yccocrimsun: I just want to start fresh like it's a new install (regarding network)09:07
dudenglish, norwegian bokml, norwegian nynorks, danish, and swedish09:07
trey3Pozac: regex is very handy to learn  :)09:07
dudone never know what language the next message will be in09:07
crimsunycco: then you'll want at least lo up09:07
duds/know/knows09:07
Pozactrench, s/handy/slow09:08
yccocrimsun: nothing I can reconfigure or something?09:08
bretzeldud: ROFL09:08
yccodpkg-reconfigure network   or some crap.09:08
yccoheh09:08
crimsunycco: well, it should start with at least: auto lo\niface lo inet loopback09:08
neighborleetrey3, i'm not saying we should substitute this app for nautilus but I sure love how fast 'gentoo' FM is..loads fast works fast and its VERY configurable..maybe if it had a nicer UI it might be the ticket....then again maybe they are working on speeeding up nautilus ..LOL09:08
dudubuntu's norwegian localization is... incomplete to say the least ;)09:09
Pozacnautilus is not slow09:09
neighborleespeaking of which..how do I turn off 'icon' view of files in nautilus...??09:09
crimsun'gentoo' rocks, as does 'rox-filer'09:09
yccocrimsun: I really don't understand any of the interface stuff.  For years I've just done:   ifconfig eth0 10.10.0.x  route add default gw 10.10.0.109:09
yccocrimsun: and it's just worked.09:09
neighborleecrimsun, agreed09:09
Pozacneighborlee, in the prefs?09:09
Gwildor|WorkCloudchaser, is it any good?09:09
dudbut with rosetta being a bit funky as of lately, its a bitch to translate...09:09
neighborleePozac, nope i've looked..can't find it09:09
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CloudchaserGwildor|Work, the adobe reader?09:09
bretzelneighborlee: Woah! I never get successful install tries of Gentoo09:09
Gwildor|WorkCloudchaser, the pdf viewer, that is09:09
neighborleePozac, if its user error so be it ..but i'm not finding it :(09:09
Gwildor|Workyeah09:09
neeneehmm09:09
neeneedoes ubuntu have ion window manager?09:09
trey3neighborlee: they are... gnome will never use gnomba over nautilus though... nautilus does entirely too much...09:09
neighborleebretzel, nope I mean the gentoo  file manager ;-))09:10
bretzelGentoo Filemanager oops!09:10
crimsunycco: I presume your can set your router/modem to hand out dhcp leases, though? (most do by default)09:10
Cloudchaseri guess so...i needed to install the plug-in to view a college catalog page...09:10
Pozacneighborlee, no 'Preview' tab ??09:10
neeneei can't even install openbox in ubuntu - nor find it with apt-cache09:10
bretzelhahaha09:10
neighborleetrey3, gnomba??09:10
crimsunpresume you^, rather09:10
neighborleetrey3, yeah it does a bit too much09:10
yccocrimsun: No... I don't have that setup.09:10
trey3neighborlee: for instance... nautilus handles everything you see on the desktop thats not on a panel (icons, wallpaper etc)...09:10
Cloudchaserseemed to work fine09:10
Gwildor|WorkCloudchaser, kk, thnx, i was just getting the XP reader today, and saw it.....thnx09:10
Cloudchaserhaven't played with it much..just got it yesterday09:10
trey3neighborlee: nah... it does what its meant to do... its the desktop shell...09:10
yccocrimsun: a friend helped me setup a firewall and such.... and all I do is just give the box an ip.09:10
yccoheh09:10
Cloudchaserits in the repos09:10
Cloudchasernot sure which one, but one i have installed anyway ;)09:11
neighborleetrey3, you just said it does too much09:11
Cloudchaser sudo apt-get install acroread-plugin09:11
neeneecan someone tell me why i can not find openbox with apt-cache search openbox ?09:11
yccoanyhoo..... :/09:11
Cloudchaserwill get the reader too09:11
trey3neighborlee: people who consider it a file manager are terribly mislead...  it also handles error messages etc too... it does everything bash does for the terminal...09:11
dudim never buying a celeron again...09:11
kentI just started the Help program in Hoary. I must say that the gnome people have been doing some real good job! It looks very good! (2.9.3)09:11
trey3neighborlee: I said it does too much to be replaced by gnomba...09:11
dudcant wait to get my amd 64bit cpu running09:11
neighborleetrey3, that may well be but it is the defaut gnome file manager ...09:12
neighborleetrey3, and its too slow09:12
Pozacneenee, enable the universe repository09:12
neeneePozac: ok09:12
trey3neighborlee: its not a file manager... its a desktop shell... very different...09:12
crimsunycco: ok, then in addition to the lo iface config I typed above, you'll need: auto eth0\niface eth0 inet static\naddress 10.10.0.x\nnetmask 255.255.255.0\ngateway 10.10.0.109:12
neighborleetrey3, I mean gez louise peeps..look how 'fast' expolorer in windows is and tell me we are even close to that useability level...at least NOT with nautilus we aren't !!09:12
crimsunycco: presuming of course that you replace the 'x' with the integer09:13
bretzelyeah! trey3: Lilo went well!!!! but I forgot that I have winxp and I must redo lilo in the mbr of my master disk... hopefully09:13
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neighborleetrey3, irrelvant since its being 'used' as one09:13
trey3neighborlee: on this box... explorer is less responsive...09:13
yccocrimsun: ok... thanks... I'm guessing this means there is no way to re-invoke the network configuration tool one was prompted with during the intstall.09:13
neighborleetrey3, then we have entirely at odds with one anther systems I guess .hahah09:13
gangalinocrimsun: I'm trying to go through the vmware-installer.09:13
neighborleetrey3, hah go fig09:13
Pozactrey3, I second that09:13
gangalinoit's having a problems finding the c header files09:14
gangalinocheck #flood for the errors09:14
neighborleetrey3, but then again explorer doesn't try to load files as icon previews as default either09:14
yccocrimsun: looking for clicky clicky or at the very worst curses based.09:14
trey3neighborlee: uhh... yes it does...09:14
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dudw00t w00t!09:14
neighborleetrey3, no .it doesn't09:14
bretzelhaory is starting :-) ( on my P4)09:14
neighborleetrey3, check next time your in windows09:14
trey3neighborlee: in XP it does...09:14
neighborleeno.it doens't09:14
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dudi just noticed that the 'X...'ish bug with gnome-panel seems to be fixed09:14
dudwonderful09:14
crimsunycco: I don't know of one, but that certainly doesn't exclude the existence of one. :) I've always been the conffile editing type.09:15
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yccocrimsun: ahhh, no worries mate09:15
neighborleeanyway point is nautilus is slow and needs to go <09:15
Pozacneighborlee, then go use XP09:15
neighborleeha<<..jk but I couldnt resist09:15
Pozacnautilus is not slow09:15
trey3neighborlee: it does for me on the XP box in the other room... maybe I changed something and didn't realize though?  :/09:15
neeneeegh09:15
neighborleePozac, thats rather rude of you..and I dont appreciate it09:15
crimsunneenee: ubuntu's installer should be more straightforward09:15
neighborleePozac, thats a rather l33t attitude and I dont appreciaet it at all!!09:15
Pozacneighborlee, Am I ruder than you?09:15
neighborleeyes..terribly09:16
neighborleePozac, learn  some manners dude09:16
trey3Pozac: yes... because you personalized a statement... he is just talking out of his ass...09:16
randabis-wireleswell found out what's wrong09:16
neeneecrimsun: well, the installer was no problem since i knew it from debian. it's just that i had to mess with universe and such before i could get the packages i wanted09:16
neighborleetrey3, who is talking out their arse ?09:16
trey3neighborlee: you are.09:16
neighborleetrey3, how rude man09:17
neeneecrimsun: as soon as i have X up and running with my settings i have a backup of, i probably won't complain anymore.09:17
neighborleetrey3, I thought 'ubuntu' was different but I guess NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!09:17
crimsunneenee: they're separated into those repos based on support and licenses09:17
trey3neighborlee: truth is never rude.09:17
neighborleetrey3, maybe YOUR truthy09:17
neighborleetruth09:17
trey3unwanted sure... but never rude09:17
neighborleeno..just rude09:17
gangalinoor trey3...09:17
neeneecrimsun: i know. debian probably has the same arrangement09:17
neighborleeobviously you dont know the difference..prob.some l33t'er09:17
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silentcodermoin09:17
trey3gangalino: ?  I think I missed the question?09:17
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foxfuzpitti !!!!!!!!!!09:18
pittiHi foxfuz09:18
neeneeevening silentcoder09:18
silentcodercan anybody tell me what ubuntu's default firewall setup is like ? and more specifically (a) is there one ?(b) if so, how can I modify/disable it ?09:18
trey3neighborlee: why do you keep stating "l33t"? l33t people don't waste ours trying to educate others... they believe others should go RTFM09:18
foxfuzpitti, do you live in spain ?09:18
neighborleerudeness is not a replacement for normal informative discussion...09:18
pittisilentcoder: we don't have a default firewall09:18
dudis sempron the amd 64bit cpu?09:18
trey3s/ours/hours09:18
silentcoderI'm trying to get my webcam working, took me about 6 weeks to do so09:19
Vaportraildud no09:19
gangalinoyeah, sorry, I'm trying to install vmware & it can't find the c header files. check #flood09:19
Cloudchaserok i want to report a bug.. so i'm at the search for reported bugs...i searched on "swat" but don't see the issue i'm having09:19
neighborleetrey3, RTFM is SOOOOOOO RUDEEEEEEE09:19
dudVaportrail, whats they called then?09:19
Vaportraildu sempron is a cut athlon xp with less l2cache09:19
neighborleetrey3, and I will NOT put up with it in #ubuntu09:19
Cloudchaseris it safe to report it then?09:19
silentcoderbecause the default ubuntu kernels don't work correctly with the ov518 driver09:19
crimsungangalino: I already pointed out one issue.09:19
silentcodernow I have it09:19
silentcoderI got camsource running09:19
neighborleetrey3, consider yourself on report09:19
silentcoderand I can see it09:19
dudVaportrail, are they socket A?09:19
Vaportrailathlon64 or the opteron ones09:19
silentcoderbut anybody from outside is getting blocked for some reason09:19
Vaportraildud sempron is socket A09:19
trey3neighborlee: you should try reading what I said again... thanks09:19
Pozacneighborlee, Coming to the official Ubuntu help channel and flooding away with how nautilus is SOO much slower than your beloved XP's explorer is NOT nice behavior.09:19
dudbut opteron?09:19
neighborleetrey3, YOU will not ruin what i've come to appreciate about #ubuntu..NOT AnYTIME SOON ..get over yourself09:19
bretzeloops: * Id "1" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes!! what the heck is that ??? at the step: Configuring base-system ...09:19
Vaportraildud but i would prefere athlon xps on socket a09:19
=== trey3 wishes someone would +q neighborlee :(
Vaportraildud opteron is server 64 bit on eh socket 939 or 940?09:20
silentcoderapparently java-applets fail too however (I don't have java support) - which is odd cos they ought to be localhost connections09:20
dud939 i believe...09:20
yccocrimsun: yeah... I'm getting packet loss is the problem.09:20
neighborleePozac, I gave opinions that are 'valid'..maybe you 'misunderstood' my opinions then09:20
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Vaportraildud dunno, server ones didn't interesst me much09:20
yccowhat's some good wireless tools ?09:20
randabis-wirelesgah09:20
neighborleePozac, at least I never told anyone  to RTFM09:20
randabis-wirelesthe damned fix didn't fix it09:20
randabis-wirelesGRRRRRRr09:20
neighborleePozac, that is so overly rude I cant believe it09:20
Pozacneighborlee, why not read the manual?09:20
randabis-wirelesgonna murder nvidia09:20
trey3neighborlee: I didn't either.09:20
neighborleetrey3, i'm ignoring you right now..tata~!~!~09:21
Vaportraildud opteron -> socket 940 (not 939)09:21
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trey3neighborlee: I said l33t people do that... whereas I have wasted nearly an hour trying to educate you a little.09:21
silentcoderpitti, could you perhaps test this URL for me ? http://196.37.192.139 :9192/multipart-large09:21
dudVaportrail, thanks, ill have to look into it a bit more i suppose09:21
Vaportraildud normal athlon64 are 93909:21
silentcoderjust to make sure it's not just my gf's box that's wonky09:21
Vaportrailno prob09:21
Vaportraildud so eh, sempron are athlon xp -> bartons with 256 kb L2cache (bartons got 512kb)09:22
trey3Pozac: good questions require the reading of a manual... but it doesn't really help someone to state that they should do so...09:22
Vaportrailjust wanted to add09:22
dudthem integrated 3in1 lan/vga/sound motherboards have good linux support dont they?09:22
gangalinothx crimsun. it's still erroring though09:23
crimsungangalino: on what?09:23
dudthis vc97 intel bridge im using now is supported at least09:23
yccowlanctl-ng  command not found.09:23
trey3Pozac: its better as a whole to just ignore those that doesn't ask educated questions rather than send them to read... because they won't anyways...09:23
crimsunycco: hmm, packet loss? for what?09:23
yccoI did:  apt-cache search wlanctl09:23
yccoand didn't find anything09:23
Vaportrailno idea09:23
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dudi guess most mobo's from the larger brands are linux supported09:23
yccocrimsun: packetloss for the wireless network card I've been trying to get working right.09:23
yccoheh09:23
gangalinocrimsun: check #flood again09:23
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dudmsi/fic/asus/etc09:24
Vaportraildud even asrock is09:24
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pittifoxfuz: no, germany09:24
pittisilentcoder: we don't have any open ports, so we don't need a fw09:24
Pozacasrock = asus09:24
foxfuzoh ok!09:24
dudim considering getting epox, really like that brand09:24
Vaportrailjup, but the cheap line09:24
dudor possibly msi09:25
Vaportraili meant asrock :) not epox09:25
duddunno yet09:25
dudi figured heh09:25
Vaportrailgot better experiences with msi then epox09:25
dudabit has been good in the past09:25
dudvery stable...09:25
Vaportrailand good features i think09:25
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dudthing is, id need a micro-atx motherboard09:26
yccoanyone know how to find out what package something like wlanctl-ng would be in?09:26
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duddont know how many 64bit amd there is...09:26
Vaportrailhmm09:26
dudycco, try apt-cache search <whatever>09:26
Vaportrailwhich socket?09:26
yccodud: tried that09:26
Pozacycco, linux-wlan-ng09:26
yccodud: trying to use airsnort09:26
yccoPozac: ahhh ok09:26
dudhavent decided exactly09:26
Vaportrail4 example?09:26
yccoPozac: you'd think that would be a dep of airsnort09:26
Pozacycco, Searched for wlan from synaptic09:27
Pozacycco, it's for prism2 cards?09:27
PozacI'm using an atheros card09:27
gangalinocrimsun: THX09:27
yccoPozac: okies tx bud.09:27
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Pozacycco, if you right click airsnort in synaptic, you can see it suggests linux-wlan-ng :)09:28
Pozacnp09:28
yccok....09:29
=== trey3 really should use synaptic more :)
yccoI have the Lucent Tech card09:29
Pozacdud, check out the MSI RS480M209:29
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Pozactrey3, No synaptic = No Pozac09:30
yccokeep getting, "could not set monitor mode"09:30
ycco:/09:30
trey3ycco: googling that shows a lot of entries for winmodems... please tell me its not a winmodem?  :(09:30
trey3Pozac: hah... I'm too used to apt-get and apt-cache  :)09:31
yccotrey3: me?09:31
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yccotrey3: mine is a wireless card09:31
yccoheh09:31
trey3Pozac: Debian user for 3 years... never occured to me to try synaptic/aptitude etc09:31
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trey3ycco: googled "lucent tech linux".... nm me  :)09:32
Pozactrey3, hmm09:32
punkrockguy318how can I install the nvidia driver from nvidia.com?09:32
trey3ycco: what does lspci say about your nic? would be a lot more useful  :)09:32
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PozacThere's a lot to learn from it.09:32
punkrockguy318brb09:32
trey3punkrockguy318: apt-get install nvidia-glx  :)09:33
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Cloudchaserhow do i find which repo a package is in when i try to install it and get an error?09:33
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dudPozac, thanks, will do :)09:33
Stew2I want to switch my PCI card out with an AGP card. What are the steps in warty+backports?09:33
yccotrey3: wireless doesn't show up in lspci09:33
trey3Cloudchaser: apt-cache show pkg | grep Section09:33
Pozacdud, edbpriser.dk's only suggestion for microatx s939 :)09:33
Cloudchaseroh thank you trey3! :)09:34
Cloudchaserok so a pkg in univers that has a problem doesn't get reported to ubuntu09:35
Cloudchaserit gets reported to debian sid09:35
Stew2Can anyone point me to a howto on changing a video card in Ubuntu?09:35
trey3Cloudchaser: well... its the Ubuntu build... so I'm not sure how much Debian folks would care?09:35
PozacStew2, Its not hard. What card is it?09:35
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Cloudchaserwell thats what it says in the ubuntu bug reporting page09:36
Pozacati or nvidia?09:36
CloudchaserPlease note: packages which are found in the 'universe' repository are not supported here.09:36
trey3Cloudchaser: oh... then ignore me  ;)09:36
trey3Cloudchaser: not supported and supported by debian are not the same  ;)09:37
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Cloudchaserit goes on to say to report issues to debian ;)09:37
Stew2pozac it's a pci card now, i have a 16 meg agp card to install09:37
Cloudchaserso i'll search the bugs there09:37
trey3Debian folks are kinda anal retentive about supporting packages for derivatives  :/09:37
Cloudchaseri'm new to any debian09:38
Stew2Is there a basic howto on changing a video card out on an ubuntu box?09:38
PozacStew2, it involves changing the 'driver' part of the Device section in /etc/X11/XF86Config-409:38
neighborleetrey3, your comment sure sounded like I should go RTFM ..if I was wrong I appologise but I truly thought from the comment ( one danger of IRC) that you were..anyway peace bro09:39
Stew2pozac can I run a video config program for X from a terminal or GNOME and tell it Vesa? then switch the card out?09:39
ycconeighborlee: good show09:39
Stew2pozac I don't know what kind of card i'm installing. Is there an autodetect?09:39
trey3Stew2: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is about your best option  (replace xorg with xfree86 if warty)09:40
PozacStew2, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree8609:40
Stew2trey3 I run that with X shut down?09:40
Pozacthen you can choose vesa from the list09:40
Pozacnot needed09:41
trey3Stew2: what I just said will ask you whether you want it to try autodetect09:41
Pozacit will pick it up when X is restarted09:41
trey3Stew2: doesn't really matter... just need to restart to take effect...09:41
Stew2Trey3 Pozac I also want to know how you're running xorg. I understand that's in Hoary. How do I update from warty to hoary? I already installed the backports.09:41
trey3Pozac: ahh... I'll never truely get used to sudo  :(09:41
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PozacStew2, hoary is unstable09:42
trey3Stew2: if you don't know, you're not ready to  :)09:42
Pozacyeah09:42
Stew2trey3 I've followed the information in the ubuntu wiki. It talks about changing from sarge to hoary.09:42
Ensiferumin SATA system, am i supposed to use the CD-ROMS over SCSI/SATA drivers (they are connected in IDE channel), or over IDE drivers?09:42
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Stew2trey3 pozac this isn't a critical system. I was annoyed that I had to install extra stuff (backports) just to get firefox to 1.0.x09:43
Cube-nessman..09:43
PozacStew2, ok, just switch 'warty' with 'hoary' in /etc/apt/sources.list09:43
Pozacand apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade09:43
Pozac+/- sudo09:43
Cube-nesskernel 2.6.8 was that last one that works.. .9 and .10 both panic at boot during hotplug init09:43
Stew2pozac And wait hours over a 256k dsl connection, I bet?09:44
Cube-nessKernel Panic - Not syncing: Attempted to kill the idle task! <1>Oops: 0003 [#4] 09:44
Cube-nesswhat the heck is that!?09:44
trey3Stew2: just for kicks... cat /etc/issue09:44
Cloudchaserwow reading debian's bug faq...makes me afraid to report a bug :)09:44
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PozacStew2, at least09:45
trey3Stew2: if that states 5.04, you are running hoary..09:45
trey3Stew2: cuz you just stated a guide told you how to switch from sarge to hoary, and you followed it...09:45
Stew2trey3 pozac It says warty. I've only installed the backports sofar. So Firefox is at least up to 1.x09:45
randabis-wirelesgrr09:45
trey3Stew2: ahh... ok...09:46
Pozacrandabis-wireles, no luck?09:46
Pozacrandabis-wireles, are you still trying for 2.6.10 ? :)09:46
Stew2trey3 I read it. I followed it with my eyes. It was a little confusing. Just cause you'all say I shouldn't switch to hoary yet... I've got to tell you, installing warty was no fun. For some reason, the fonts for X were never installed (default installation). So X wouldn't start. I had never troubleshooted X under warty/ubuntu/debian before.09:47
Cloudchaserhmm it *might* be an ubuntu problem...09:47
trey3randabis-wireles: you know... there are reasons 2.6.10 isn't already in the archive... I'm betting what you're experiencing is one such reason  ;)09:47
PozacStew2, download todays hoary iso and start over then :)09:47
Cloudchaserif i post the error in #flood could someone look at it?09:47
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dudhmm, seems my isp loves me today09:48
trey3Cloudchaser: sure09:48
Stew2pozac would if I had some cd's and a burner. The one dude in the office with both is a little irritating. avoiding conversation.09:48
duduploading at 80kB/s on a 256kbs upload subscription09:48
Stew2dud nice.09:48
Cloudchaserthanks ;)09:48
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Vaportrailmhm09:50
dudit would be nice if xine/mplayer/etc stopped rendering video when playing movies, if you minimized it09:51
dudits not like you see anything then09:51
dudjust rendering audio...09:51
Pozacdud, good point09:51
TycheWhat CMS do people use here? I am liking Drupal.09:51
Pozacdud, totem too09:51
trey3Pozac: Totem = Xine09:52
trey3or gstreamer depending on build09:52
PozacI know09:52
Vaportrailcya next time guys, I gotta go09:52
dudyeah, all movie players should have that feature09:52
Pozacbut totem gets the minimize signal09:52
dudTyche, write your own ;)09:53
Ensiferumis there info on kernel modules somewhere?09:53
dudive written my own in the past, i think ive lost it though09:53
dudprolly lost the code in a format long time ago09:54
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dudPozac, totem stops rendering video when minimized?09:54
Pozacno09:54
Pozacbut it should09:54
dudah, ok09:55
dudyeah hehe09:55
Pozactotem tries to everything right09:55
Cloudchaserok back here then09:56
Cloudchaserhmm warty-updates09:56
Cloudchaserdo i have to do something special to get those?09:56
Pozacadd it to /etc/apt/sources.list09:56
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trey3Cloudchaser: yeah... add the line (simular to the main restricted line, but with warty-updates instead of warty alone)09:57
LinuxShamancan anyone help with this, I've had to reinstall XP but it's overwritten grub, how can I get linux back?09:57
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trey3LinuxShaman: you create a boot disc?09:58
LinuxShamanno09:58
client3hi hi09:58
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PozacLinuxShaman, do you have the live cd?09:58
trey3LinuxShaman: I think there is a 'rescue' option in the installer... on the first screen type f3 (I think) to see what it is exactly...09:59
ZzeCoOlLinuxShaman: hahahha great nick for your situation09:59
LinuxShamanyeah, i've got both live and install09:59
Cloudchaser use this for the URI? http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ with warty-updates as the distribution?09:59
Cloudchaserand main restricted as the section?10:00
bretzelhoary current week messed up...10:00
trey3Cloudchaser: yes... so 'deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ warty-updates main restricted'10:00
Cloudchaserthanks very much :) maybe its already been fixed10:01
Cloudchaserhahaha MS is selling their own virus cleaner ;)10:01
Cloudchasersounds like a conflict of interest to me ;)10:01
trey3Cloudchaser: wrong place to say that if you want people to care  ;)10:02
Cloudchasernah i don't want people to care10:02
Cloudchaseri just saw it on the news and thought it was funny10:02
ZzeCoOlis there any untivirus ...that can remove "windows"10:02
trey3k good  :)10:02
ZzeCoOlixixiixix10:02
trey3ZzeCoOl: yup... its called "Mr Clean"  :)10:02
ZzeCoOlhehe10:03
Cloudchaseri use windows only when i absolutely have to for some apps i can't get on linux, and those aren't daily apps10:03
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ZzeCoOlme too10:03
Cloudchaserand i hate having to do that10:04
trey3Cloudchaser: tried Wine? I hear its getting pretty complete for anything other than games10:04
Cloudchaseryah its some mapping apps that don't work10:04
Cloudchasergarmin's mapsource10:04
trey3Well.. anything that doesn't use DirectX I should say...10:04
ZzeCoOlfor directX there is cedega10:05
Cloudchaseri'll try it to see if i can at least get the maps, but i read some parts of it don't work like getting waypoints to the gps10:05
LinuxShamannot having much luck with the live cd, ideas?10:05
Cloudchaserand there are also some specialized apps that have no linux equivalents so far10:05
Cloudchaseri tried wine for them but no go10:05
Cloudchaserbut if i can get the maps with waypoints to work in wine and can print the maps i can find something else to get the waypoints to the gps10:06
bretzelI need to get back to the ubuntu hoary DVD iso images I can;t remember where10:06
LinuxShamancan anyone help with this, I've had to reinstall XP but it's overwritten grub, how can I get linux back?10:07
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bretzelPlase ---- I need to get back to the ubuntu hoary DVD iso images I can;t remember where10:07
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CloudchaserLinuxShaman, i read you can restore grup with the live cd10:07
LinuxShamanhow?10:07
Cloudchasergrub that is10:07
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Cloudchasersec i think htere's a how-to10:08
LinuxShamanI've looked but can't find it. Do you have an URL for it?10:08
trey3LinuxShaman: install-grub /dev/hda from within livecd10:08
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trey3LinuxShaman: uhh... make that 'grub-install /dev/hda' sorry10:10
LinuxShamaninstall-grub /dev/hda = command not found10:10
bretzelPlease ---- I need to get back to the ubuntu hoary DVD iso images site  - I can't remember where10:11
trey3LinuxShaman: ^10:11
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bretzelbah downloading livecd - so I will restore screwed  mbr boot chains :-)10:13
trey3bretzel: http://archive.ubuntulinux.org/cdimage/weekly-dvd/10:14
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LinuxShamanit reports could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device10:15
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HauntedUnixEr - how do I install the kernel-source in Ubuntu? :)10:15
randabis-wirelesgrr10:15
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PozacHauntedUnix, linux-source :)10:15
Ensiferumlinux-sauce10:16
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sensebendwhat's the advantage to a dvd install of hoary?10:16
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trey3haha @ linux-sauce10:16
trey3sensebend: no idea... but thats what he asked for  :/10:16
Pozacsensebend, the same as a dvd has over cd10:16
trey3Pozac: cept that ubuntu is one cd anyways  ;)10:17
Pozacyeah well10:17
Pozacyou can't get it all for free now10:17
Pozachehe :)10:17
sensebendand the hoary dvd iso is huge 1.7GB10:18
HauntedUnixPozac: Sorry? :)10:18
trey3sensebend: still not a full DVD   :/10:18
PozacHauntedUnix, sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.8.110:18
HauntedUnixPackage linux-source-2.6.8.1 is not available, but is referred to by another package.10:19
HauntedUnixThis may mean that the package is missing, or has been obseleted, or is only available from another source.10:19
trey3Pozac: regex is your friend... sudo apt-get install linux-source-'uname -r' is safer to recommend than what you said...10:19
HauntedUnixtrey3: That just plain doesn't work.10:19
Pozacthats not a regular expression, trey310:19
randabis-wirelesyay10:20
HauntedUnixand it'd be `uname -r`, no?10:20
randabis-wirelesfixed the nforce drivers10:20
Pozacyeh10:20
HauntedUnixanyway, Pozac  - that's what's returned.10:20
Pozacrandabis-wireles, congrats :)10:20
ZzeCoOland i have fixed the new ATi drivers10:20
ZzeCoOl:)10:20
LinuxShamannot having any luck with the grub-install command, ideas?10:20
randabis-wirelesit was some script errors that broke it for 2.6.1010:21
PozacHauntedUnix, I figured you ran warty release :) Try searching for linux-source in synaptic10:21
trey3HauntedUnix: works better than linux-source-2.6.8.1 would for a 2.6.9 or 10 kernel  :/10:21
HauntedUnixthe `uname -r` doesn't work due to the rather elaboratly named kernel-sources10:21
ZzeCoOlguys lets someone plz help LinuxShaman...10:21
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ZzeCoOlhe is trying very hard some hours now10:21
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HauntedUnixPozac: CD isn't marked with version - the kernel I'm running is the 2.6.8.1-3-386. :) I've never used synaptic, or any deb based distros (exception of DEbian Woody) - I need the kernel-source to get ndiswrapper working,then all will be well :)10:22
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NaillLhi all10:22
PozacLinuxShaman, mount your boot partition on /boot10:22
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LinuxShamanhow do I do that?10:22
aardvark?10:23
Pozacdo you have a boot partition, LinuxShaman ?10:23
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trey3Pozac: thats where I stopped helping... he likely only has /dev/hda1 as / due to default in installer... not sure what that would do to livecd... and dunno how to direct grub-install at another location?10:23
Pozacok10:23
Pozac2 things10:23
Pozacmount /dev/hda1 in /mnt/somewhere and copy files to /boot10:23
Pozacor chroot /mnt/somewhere /bin/bash10:24
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Pozacchroot'ing creates problems with /dev10:24
trey3Pozac: good idea  :)10:24
neofeedLOL!10:24
neofeedokay I guess many of you know MTV's `Pimp my Ride'... now MTV Germany broadcasts: 'Pimp my Bike'10:25
randabisyay10:25
randabisbrb10:25
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NaillL=)10:26
ZzeCoOlpimp my bike?10:26
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ZzeCoOland what they acualy doing?10:26
Pozachow much can a bike be pimped?10:27
Pozacpimps dont ride bicycles10:27
ZzeCoOltake a B.M.X. and turn it into a choper?10:27
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ZzeCoOldavatziliki10:27
ZzeCoOlhaha10:27
nghhi there, I just tried ubuntu live and it rocks, congrats, but I installed the iso in my laptop now and everything went fine but wont load the gui because some undetected display modes10:28
nghwhat do I need to edit? the live CD worked fine10:28
trey3Pozac: thats the noun 'pimp'... ;)10:28
ZzeCoOlstrange i have never made live cd work ...but iso work smoothly :>10:28
nuopusHauntedUnix: I got it worker easily ... just get the headers10:28
HauntedUnixnuopus: turns out I don't have gcc installed either 8)10:28
trey3Pozac: anything good can be said to be 'pimp'10:29
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trey3Pozac: its the hip hop version of 'rocks'  ;)10:29
nuopushere is what you install10:29
Pozactrey3, hmm.. if you do root (hd0,0) from grub.. perhaps it picks up the right partition then?10:29
nghthe live cd loaded great on my laptop10:29
ZzeCoOltrey3: we are not native speakers :)10:29
nuopusHauntedUnix: Go into a console and type apt-get install build-essential10:29
nghbut not the final installation10:29
ZzeCoOltrey3: thanx for the infos10:29
ZzeCoOl:P10:29
nuopusHantedUnix: that will get you the build tools you need10:29
HauntedUnixnuopus: thanks very much10:29
trey3Pozac: prior issue was that without /boot mounted... grub-install couldn't find it... said bad block or not found or something...10:30
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nuopusThen .... go into synaptic and search for linux-header10:30
Pozactrey3, I know. But even hiphoppers find pimps to be the pimpest10:30
xhypnohello room!10:30
Ensiferumis there a way to see the config options of the installed kernel? :|10:30
HauntedUnixnuopus: got it setup now - thanks 8)10:30
ZzeCoOlhello10:30
nghhow can I fix this?10:30
trey3ZzeCoOl: you're welcome  :)10:30
nuopusinstall the same header for the linux-image that you are using and it will work10:30
nuopusok10:30
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trey3Pozac: I am a "hiphopper"... just sharing our slang a little  :)10:31
nuopustrey?10:31
nuopusFrom Arizona?10:31
randabisthis is kinda annoying10:31
randabisxchat isn't saving my settings10:31
trey3nuopus: sup Chris  :)10:31
nuopusLOL10:31
nuopussup10:31
randabisit is on the wireless box, but not on this one10:31
trey3nodda... hows break  :)10:31
nuopusno break at all. Working at the office right now10:31
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Pozactrey3, but they said it in MTV Germany?10:32
trey3nuopus: ahh... shitty  :(10:32
nuopussetting up a Linux VPN for Wallstreet group10:32
trey3nuopus: sounds like fun  :)10:32
nuopusboring stuff... just watching the kernel compile .. zzzzz10:32
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trey3nuopus: FreeNX?  :)10:32
nuopusNo ... VPN10:32
nghthe error is something like "ror:not display mode detected" and when it finish loading it tries to load the gui and after that it says it wontload gdm for now unti is fixed10:32
nuopusOpenSWAN10:33
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trey3Never played with it  :(10:33
randabisI don't get it :(10:33
strangequarkis there a german ubuntu channel too?10:33
nghanyone please?10:33
Pozac#ubuntu-de perhaps?10:33
nuopustrey3: Most people would not need it10:33
nuopustrey3: You should check out the office10:35
trey3nuopus: where it even at?10:35
nuopustrey3: The bank of america building on alma school on the 7th floor10:35
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nghplease?10:36
nuopusI can't believe we got an office in a big building filled with financial people and lawyers. We stand out wearing jeans and t-shirts while everyone else is wearing suits!10:36
niandertal_can any1 tell me the root default password?10:36
trey3nuopus: hah... yeah... I couldn't imagine you in a suite  ;)10:37
nuopusniandertal_: Root is disabled by default10:37
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niandertal_:(10:37
nuopusniandertal_: You should use sudo for most things10:37
nuopusniandertal_: But in the instance where you absolutely must have root .... type sudo passwd10:37
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niandertal_how can i use apt-get?10:37
nuopusand it will ask you for your new root password ... jsut remember to lock it after you are through10:37
trey3Pozac: bah10:38
Pozacor keep it10:38
niandertal_hmm10:38
nuopussudo apt-get install *package*10:38
niandertal_kk10:38
niandertal_thks a lot10:38
randabisyessir10:38
randabisremember you can use synaptic also10:38
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nuopusya10:38
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nuopushave any of you used Smartpm?10:38
niandertal_dont like synaptic10:38
nuopusit successfully lets you use the warty repositories along with the hoary ones10:39
randabisthat's fine, just wasn't sure if you knew10:39
trey3nuopus: easier than simply pinning?10:40
nuopusniandertal_: if you use console a lot like I do .... use aptitude10:40
nuopustrey3: pinning?10:40
niandertal_I prefer apt-get10:40
niandertal_lol10:40
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niandertal_well10:41
nuopusniandertal_: You are difficult. lol10:41
niandertal_g2g10:41
niandertal_:)10:41
niandertal_cya10:41
nuopuscya10:41
trey3nuopus: sets priorities on repositories... pinning is 'man apt_preferences', or add testing and unstable lines to sources.list, create /etc/apt/preferences containing "Package: *\nPin: release a=testing\nPin-Priority: 900\n\nPackage: *\nPin: release o=Debian\nPin-Priority: -10\n", then apt-get install foo/unstable, or at http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/2002/4/mail#1, or read http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2002/debian-devel-200212/msg00610:42
trey359.html10:42
nuopusoh that is what you meant10:42
nuopusya its easier10:42
HauntedUnixSorry if I'm asking FAQ questions, but how can I enable web-sources for apt? 8) (Is there a good FAQ, if it's covered in the topic, you're welcome to slap me)10:43
nuopusbecause it lets you assign priorities to repos and individual packages ... so if I want a package from a specific repo it will update from that one since it is higher priority10:43
trey3nuopus: apt can do that too  ;)10:44
nuopushmmmmm didnt know that about apt10:44
trey3nuopus: most don't look that much into apt  :(10:44
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nuopusbut ... I did get brave and tried to get portage working in ubuntu10:45
nuopusdo you know what happened?10:45
trey3nuopus: hah... how'd that go?  :P10:45
Cloudchaserhmm i might try out aptitude ;) just googled for it to see what it was10:45
nuopusI ended up with a gentoo system10:45
nuopuslol10:45
trey3Cloudchaser: its already installed...10:45
nuopuswith script errors on boot10:45
nuopusbut it worked10:45
trey3nuopus: yay  :)10:45
nuopusLOL I got rid of it10:46
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Cloudchaserah i usually use apt-get etc...i'll try out the aptitude though10:46
nghhi10:46
nuopusit was on my test machine so I am trying ProMEPIS .... still ubuntu all the way on lap though10:46
trey3nuopus: been looking at Mepis... nothing that interesting about it though for me...10:46
nghthis is the exact error it gives: "ror: Temporary failure in name resolution" anyone knows what this means?10:46
nuopusI just don't like it because it is KDE ... but im not trying it for me10:47
trey3nuopus: its nice that it includes java/flash/media plugins by default... I don't like the config tools much from what I have seen of them... other then that... yeah... its Debian's KDE...10:48
nuopuslooking for something to suggest for people preferring a kde istro10:48
trey3With all 400+ bugs (last I checked)10:48
nuopusbut I am gnome all the way10:48
Cloudchaserinteresting10:48
NaillLkde with prelink is quite fast thing...but for example nautilus caching images while you watching them.....faster10:48
nuopuswell ... except for xfce on another box10:48
trey3nuopus: I want to try 4.2...10:49
nuopustrey3: it is very nice10:49
trey3nuopus: still haven't gotten around to it though  :(10:49
nuopusthat is what I use10:49
nghjust tell me what file to edit and or how please10:50
nuopusYou want a repo with it?10:50
trey3ngh: whatst he output of 'echo $DISPLAY ?10:50
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trey3nuopus: sure... can try it next time hoary breaks :P10:51
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snow_how do you excute programs in linux?10:52
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snow_hello anyone here?10:52
Cloudchaseroh boy snow...10:52
Cloudchaserwell10:52
gorbylo, i had a second monitor plugged in the other day and i could switch to it with a function key+f4, what is it controlling that?10:52
Cloudchaserwhat program?10:52
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snow_xplane10:53
Cloudchaserat command line try typing "xplane"?10:53
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HauntedUnixSo - any good faqs on setting up web-sources for apt? 8)10:53
izaachow can i burn a .mdf image?10:53
gsuvegin hoary use patched xorg ?10:53
snow_well I know what hte file is called, but it doesn't do anything when I type it10:53
nuopusdeb http://www.os-works.com/debian testing main10:53
nuopusdeb-src http://www.os-works.com/debian testing main10:53
trey3izaac: cdrecord dev=/dev/hdc --data blah.mdf10:53
nuopustrey3: Add those10:53
nuopuswell ... not the deb-src since I know how you re so much against compiling! :-)10:54
izaactrey3: it is a supported format in cdrecord?10:54
trey3izaac: --data denotes raw burn... doesn't matter format...10:54
gorbyizaac: it could be anything really, is it < 800 mb?10:54
nghI do echo $DISPLAY but nothing happens ??10:54
Cloudchasersnow did you just install it?10:54
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nuopusngh: It shoudl have said :0.0 or something10:54
erik_il_rossohello to all10:54
nite_fly_workwake makes ubuntu soo great10:54
izaacgorby: it is an DVD image10:54
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snow_it just says 'bash: X-Plane-803-athlon-xp: command not found'10:55
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snow_well I untared it, isn't that the same thing?10:55
izaactrey3: thank you10:55
nuopusnite_fly_work: Released every 6 months ... and the only distro that updages GNOME so fast10:55
Cloudchasernot necessarily you may have to compile it and whatnot10:55
snow_oh great, how do I do that?10:55
Cloudchaserwhere you uncompressed it10:55
Cloudchaseris there now a directory of the smae name?10:55
snow_yes10:56
Cloudchaserwhere'd you get it from?10:56
nuopusnite_fly_work: If you like gnome ... then you will like ubuntu. When 2.10 comes out we will be the first to use it ... well .. short of people compiling it from source10:56
snow_x-plane website10:56
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Cloudchaserurl?10:56
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gio1322328_hello10:56
gio1322328_all10:56
Cloudchaseralso cd to the dir it made10:56
snow_www.xplane.com I belive10:56
snow_sorry www.x-plane.com10:57
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gorbydo i have to use the ati binaries to get the svideo out working on my laptop?10:57
gio1322328_is the ubuntu linux a complete distribution ?10:57
Cloudchasersee if there are things like "configure" and makefile and such10:57
strangequarkquestion: i have yet installed ubuntu 4.10 - How can i make a Link on my desktop to a directory?10:57
Cloudchaseralso see if there's a README10:57
nite_fly_workwhat platform is it based off of ?10:57
snow_yeah there's a readme10:57
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Cloudchaserok "cat README | more10:58
snow_ok, so cd donesn't mean a physical cd?10:58
Cloudchasershould tell you how to install it10:58
nuopusnite_fly_work: It is based on debian10:58
nite_fly_workdoes apt-get work ?10:58
nite_fly_workand apt-cache10:58
Cloudchaserif you haven't complied anything so far you may need to install the files to compiles10:58
nuopusnite_fly_work: of course .. it is based on debian10:58
trey3strangequark: ln -s thefolder ~/.Desktop10:58
nite_fly_worksoo what makes it better then debian gnome ?10:58
nite_fly_workmore user friendly >?10:59
trey3strangequark: ln -s thefolder ~/.Desktop/ *10:59
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nuopusnite_fly_work: Because debian gnome is so damn old10:59
nuopusnite_fly_work: errr .. outdated10:59
Cloudchasersnow i'm not sure what they're called but someone here can tell you i'm sure10:59
strangequarkhow can i make a link on my desktop to a directory10:59
snow_it says cd into the dirctory where it's installed and then run the binary corresponding to your architecture10:59
nuopusnite_fly_work: they will get gnome 2.10 packages months after ubuntu release10:59
Cloudchaserbrb someone at the door10:59
trey3nuopus: bah... 2.8 was uploaded to sid a while ago... 2.9 is in experimental I think...10:59
nuopustrey3: a few months after it was released10:59
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gio1322328_can someone tell me if ubuntu is only 1 cd ?11:00
crash3mHauntedUnix: ask here :P11:00
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nite_fly_workill be back later gotta leave work :)11:00
trey3nuopus: 12 archs to support takes a while  :(11:00
nite_fly_worknuopus, nice meeting yeah11:00
trey3gio1322328_: yes11:00
nuopustrey3: and they make their own modifications to gnome. for example they moved all icons to menus on the panel ... along with trash11:00
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nuopuserrr ... that was actually directed at nite_fly_work11:00
nuopuslol11:00
gio1322328_why other linux have 4 or more cd?11:00
trey3nuopus: those are the *true* differences  :)11:01
strangequarkhow can i make a link to a directory on my desktop?11:01
erik_il_rossosome ppc user?11:01
nite_fly_worknuopus, got it :P11:01
HauntedUnixI'm wondering if you _can_ setup web-apt sources.. ooer11:01
nite_fly_worktake it easy bbl11:01
gio1322328_ciao erik11:01
nuopusgio1322328_: because instead of having you download packages .... they give them to you on the CDs11:01
FrossiI was wondering that can I remove some applications from the taskbar, like xmms, so it would be open but that it wouldn't be in the taskbar. I hope u know what I mean.11:01
erik_il_rossoi have installed ubuntu on my ibook but i have trouble with java11:01
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nuopustrey3: Especially with an environment I like ... I don't want to wait for the RELEASE of it 5 months down the road.11:02
nuopustrey3: I would MUCH rather use garnome and compile on my own11:02
trey3nuopus: jhbuild > garnome  :P11:02
nuopusbut that is why I like ubuntu ... they release to coincide with the gnome release and I dont have to compile or wait for debian to send the package down the archs11:03
trey3nuopus: but still :)11:03
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snow_what does the command "./" mean?11:03
gio1322328_well...i m trying to install ubuntu on my laptop11:03
nuopussnow_: It says to look in the current directory11:03
trey3snow_: it points to current dir11:03
misticerik_il_rosso: what problem?11:03
snow_it says illegal command when I do that11:04
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nuopusdont do ./ by itself11:04
nuopuswait11:04
nuopusmake sure you are in the dir with the executable11:04
snow_./X-Plane-803-athlon-xp  doesn't work11:04
nuopusare you trying to run x-plane?11:04
blackbirdXXXHello. I have a little problem11:04
snow_yes11:04
erik_il_rossoi don't find java for linux ppc11:04
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trey3snow_: just for kicks... in the xplane dir... do ls | grep configure and tell me if it returns anything...11:05
nuopussnow_ have you unpacked it yet?11:05
blackbirdXXXMy soundcard doesn't work since a new compile of freetype211:05
nuopustrey3: It is binary11:05
nuopustrey3: It is a software demo11:05
misticerik_il_rosso: wait a sec, i'm gonna boot my ibook in ubuntu to check how i fixed it :-)11:05
snow_that didn't do anything11:05
misticbrb11:05
snow_yes I've untared it11:05
nuopusthen CD to the directory that was created11:06
erik_il_rossook thanks11:06
blackbirdXXXNo one can help me?11:06
nuopusshould be like XLIN803 right?11:06
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snow_i'm in that directory, it's called games/X-System-80311:06
trey3blackbirdXXX: that makes no sense... freetype2 relates to fonts...11:06
nuopusdo you see the executable?11:06
blackbirdXXXI know.11:06
snow_they are green right?11:06
nuopusif the executable file is called xplane ....11:06
nuopusya11:07
nuopusis there a green xplane?11:07
blackbirdXXXBut after the reboot the sound was off11:07
snow_yes, there are several11:07
nuopuswell ... just xplane11:07
nuopusthen just type ./xplane11:07
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nuopusor whatever the filename is11:07
snow_yes and it returns illegal command11:07
nuopussnow_: remember linux is case sensitive. If the X is capital you must type ./Xplane11:08
dudarg, this slow dvd burning is annoying :(11:08
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gio1322328_wow it lives...:D11:08
blackbirdXXXOk. thx11:09
nuopusdud: were you expecting faster?11:09
dudi have a frikkin brand new benq 16x dvd burner, and its giving me 1,6x hehe11:09
NaillLK3b is the best prog for burning11:09
zAo^;-)11:09
dudusing k3b11:09
snow_yes I've typed it exsactly as it's writen11:09
nuopusit sucks for some dvd burners11:09
trey3dud: hah... default speed is 4 or something... 'speed=*blah*' would have sped it up  :P11:09
dudbut even just pure command line growisofs gives the same speed11:09
nuopusdud: There is a bug with some dvd burners in k3b .... and it default to 1x11:09
zAo^Who tried to copy MP3 files to hier Sony NW-E 95/99 ??11:09
nuopusthat is why I stopped using it ....11:10
dudnuopus, its like that in growisofs as well11:10
misticerik_il_rosso: it'll take some time, fell asleep next to it yesterday and now it has some problems with the HD11:10
dudbeen hearing in #k3b that ubuntu can be slow on dvd burning for some unknown reason11:10
nuopusdud: I use xcdroast now perfectly ... and it burns fast11:10
HauntedUnixAnyone know what package smbmount is in? I thought it was in 'smbfs', but I get "Package smbfs is not available, but is referred to by another package.".11:10
Cloudchasersnow_, what does the readme tell you?11:10
nuopusdud: It was slow like that in Gentoo also ... it is not an ubuntu problem11:10
snow_RUNNING X-SYSTEM **************************************************************11:10
snow_The X-System apps are very easy to get running. cd into the directory in which11:10
snow_X-System is stored, and then run the binary corresponding to your architecture.11:10
snow_For example, if you are on an Athlon XP machine:11:10
nuopusit is an "k3b sucks for burning on some dvds" problem. lol11:10
snow_$ cd x-system/11:11
snow_$ ./X-Plane-803-athlon-xp11:11
snow_IMPORTANT: X-System will NOT run outside of its directory.11:11
zAo^dud, I use k3b on Debian Sarge with my NEC 2500A; it burns perfectly.11:11
Cloudchaser $ ./X-Plane-803-athlon-xp11:11
Cloudchaserthats what you need to do then11:11
dudill give xcdroast a try11:11
Cloudchasercd to x-system11:11
nuopusI said "some"11:11
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dudbut can it burn dvd-data and dvd-video?11:11
nuopusit burns berfectly on my test system11:11
neighborleeCloudchaser, I dont recommend aptitutde for anything..synaptic hasn't let me down yet and its the 'easy' route for everyone else ...aptitude doesnt even have a gui faik so its out of my use category <G>11:11
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trey3HauntedUnix: smbclient11:11
nuopusthere is a bug for the slow dvd burning in k3b in bugzilla11:11
zAo^yes you can dud11:11
Cloudchaserand run that command as it says to do..you have athlon?11:11
snow_yes, and it returns'illegal command'11:12
HauntedUnixtrey3: got that, don't have 'smbmount' though11:12
shmoolikcan i overwirte a symbolic link and if i can what do i need to add to this command ... sudo ln -s /usr/java/jre1.5.0_01/bin/java /usr/bin/java11:12
snow_i have an AMD 1.4ghz11:12
gorbycan you get special modules for ati mobility chips?11:12
zAo^almost forgot that: this is the 'sudo'-channel :P11:12
nuopusdud: yes11:13
nuopusdud: can do data11:13
Cloudchasersnow can you make sure that file is executable?11:13
zAo^gorby, as far as I know; there is one module: fglrx; the crap one..11:13
dudhmm, ok11:13
nuopusvideo I never tried11:13
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snow_how do I make sure, it's green11:13
Cloudchaserdo ls -al in the dir where the command is11:13
nuopusdud: it is just different than using other burning software.11:13
shmoolikCloudchaser, thanks11:13
snow_-al returns command not found11:13
Cloudchaserls -al?11:14
snow_oh hang on11:14
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Cloudchasershmoolik, thanks for what?11:14
snow_ok there's along list of stuff11:14
dudbut what i dont understand, if its a k3b bug, how come the exact same thing happens when i use only growisofs?11:14
dudhow can it be a k3b bug then?11:14
nuopusdud: maybe its a growfs bug11:15
shmoolikCloudchaser,   nothingy ... =\11:15
dudbut xcdroast uses growisofs too dont it?11:15
Cloudchaserlook for: X-Plane-803-athlon-xp11:15
zAo^I had some familiar probs on Sarge; I installed an older version of growfs, now my probs are solved11:15
misticerik_il_rosso: i used the j2re-1_4_2_05-linux-i586.bin installer and that works here11:15
nuopusdud: no11:15
dudoh, i see11:15
zAo^mistic, you got an URL?11:16
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nuopusdud: it uses prodvd11:16
snow_ok i see it11:16
trey3shmoolik: no, you can't overwrite symlinks... must remove and re-link...11:16
misticzAo^: i got that from a tutorial on the forums11:16
ogratrey3: mv is your friend ;)11:16
Cloudchasersnow you have to cd to the dir that matches your architecture11:17
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misticso if you just follow that one, only thing that doesn't really work is the mplayer thing, as soon as my exams are over i'll figure that one out11:17
trey3ogra: ahh... whats up  :)   heh... in the case of Java though, no need to keep the old one  :)11:17
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neighborleeCloudchaser, I need to try xplane ..sounds fun11:17
misticits named 'tweaking your fresh ubuntu' or something like that11:17
ogratrey3: true... i just stepped in....11:17
Cloudchaserthen run the command just like this: ./X-Plane-803-athlon-xp         if you have an athlon11:17
ZzeCoOlhey when i start wine my monitor turn blanc and i have to restart my pc??? is there anything i can do to fix that?11:18
Cloudchaseryou have to be in the dir to run the command11:18
ZzeCoOlogra: :)11:18
misticZzeCoOl: don't start wine :)11:18
zAo^ZzeCoOl, at least you can restart X ;-)11:18
zAo^tried cedega?11:18
ZzeCoOlwow11:18
zAo^? :)11:18
ZzeCoOlyes but getright doesnt working with cedega11:19
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ZzeCoOlso i have to remove wine though?11:19
ZzeCoOli want something like getright for linux or a way to emulated getright in linux11:20
ZzeCoOli prefere the second11:20
ZzeCoOlthats way i tryied wine11:20
dudZzeCoOl, aria is like getright11:20
dudonly much better ;11:21
dud;)11:21
ZzeCoOl?11:21
ZzeCoOlare u sure?11:21
ZzeCoOlim going to test it right now11:21
ZzeCoOl?:>11:21
misticZzeCoOl: most of the time the linux-counterparts of applications involving internet/network are a lot better then the windows-versions because linux is just so f*cking great at networking11:22
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trey3dud: tried prozilla?11:23
ben_dZzeCoOl: try d4l Download for Linux11:24
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trey3or aget... nice... but cli  :/11:24
ZzeCoOllisten this one.... there are 2 pc in my network ....when i copy paste from mounted samba partitions i only get 900 kb/sec (it is a wireless lan) but when i set up an ftp server in the windows machine and take the file using linux and firefox i get 1.9 mb/sec.... where is the problem ...is there something that i can setup in samba?11:25
kezzcould just be that smb sux11:25
ZzeCoOlmaybe11:26
falcwhere do I need to put an .Xdefaults file with emacs customizations?11:26
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ZzeCoOlsmb my ass after all11:26
ZzeCoOl:>11:26
falcanybody? I'm only asking because everfy website I find tells me to put it in ~ but that doesn't work11:29
zAo^fabbione, I think in ~11:29
erik_il_rossoanyone have a ppc linux ubuntu system?11:29
kezzerik_il_rosso, yes11:29
zAo^falc, ~ is you homedir egg /home/zao11:29
CloudchaserZzeCoOl, not sure if this will help you or not but i saw this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=9792&highlight=samba11:30
erik_il_rossoi have some trouble, i don't find a java vm for my system11:30
zAo^http://www4.vc-net.ne.jp/~klivo/sim/javalinux.htm11:31
trey3erik_il_rosso: you installed the .bin?11:31
ZzeCoOlthanx anyway11:31
zAo^just installed it ^^11:31
falcI know, I have an .Xdefaults in my home, containing emacs customizations, which are completely ignored11:31
erik_il_rossowhere i found java for powerpc?11:31
HauntedUnixWhat plugin do I have to have to play mp3 files? I've got glame, not sure what else.11:31
erik_il_rossogstream-mad11:32
kezzgstreamer-mad* (i think)11:32
sensebendHauntedUnix, it's in universe, you'll need to enable the repository if you haven't11:32
zAo^erik_il_rosso, I told you! http://www4.vc-net.ne.jp/~klivo/sim/javalinux.htm11:32
sensebendyeah kezz is right11:32
sensebendor XMMS11:32
HauntedUnixsensebend: just enabled it now, thanks11:32
sensebendyou're welcome11:32
HauntedUnixThanks kezz, erik_il_rosso, too 8)11:33
trey3HauntedUnix: gstreamer0.8-mad or gstreamer0.8-lame11:33
zAo^falc, tried root's home?11:33
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zAo^after that maybe you need to restart gdm11:34
trey3zAo^: why would that help? (putting it another users ~)11:34
erik_il_rossozao this is for intel, i don't have problem to install java on intel system, i have problem with my ibook a powerpc system11:34
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zAo^trey3, root starts GDM, thats why11:34
zAo^erik_il_rosso, sorry, thought you would find the source there. NFI11:35
sapmy thinkpad  crashes when running under battery (it takes a while though, over an hour before it locks up). I thought the problem was acpi related so I removed the acpi module, but it still crashes.11:35
Tomcat_Is it a good idea to add /etc/acpi/power.sh to /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc?11:35
zAo^sap, tried apmd ?11:35
sapzAo^: nope11:35
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trey3zAo^: I thought GDM used /etc/X11/gdm/Init/Default?11:36
trey3zAo^: ie didn't really care who starts it...11:37
sapis there anything I can look at (log etc)  to get some idea about what might be causing the problem?11:37
dudxcdroast doesnt really seem sane...11:38
dudmax write speed of 92x :O11:38
dudand the only write mode it is able to do it RAW11:38
dudno DAO or TAO11:38
ZzeCoOlmistic: omg aria have the most stupid fonts i have ever see11:39
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xav_hi11:39
karimI was telling my self that the password prompt on sudo is useless for my user account, because it would not make a difference for me that somebody do a sudo rm -fr / or a rm -fr ~/ in my back11:39
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xav_I've just made a fresh ubuntu install, but I've already some problems11:40
karimwhat is your opinion about that ? :)11:40
xav_totem hangs when I launch it11:40
trey3xav_: run from terminal and tell is what it says.11:40
xav_** (totem:6864): WARNING **: don't know how to handle video/mpeg, mpegversion=(int)1, systemstream=(boolean)false11:41
xav_** (totem:6864): WARNING **: don't know how to handle audio/mpeg, mpegversion=(int)111:41
dudwhats prodvd support in xcdroast?11:41
ZzeCoOltry totem-xine11:41
trey3xav_: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats under "Where to get DVDCSS/xvid/other legally questionable packages"11:42
Tomcat_What script starts the X server? xserver-xfree86 sets ups directories and sockets, gdm only starts gdm?11:42
trey3Not sure why that would be making totem crash though?11:42
xav_hmm the first time it worked11:43
xav_I tried to play a movie11:43
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xav_and since that, it crashed each time11:43
trey3Tomcat_: /etc/X11/Xsession by default...11:43
xav_hmm and it seems rythmbox crash too11:43
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xav_I already read this page11:44
Tomcat_trey3: Who calls Xsession then? :o11:44
xav_but I've troubles too :)11:44
trey3Tomcat_: the X executable I presume?  :/11:45
Tomcat_trey3: That's the question... I really want to know how X gets started after boot...11:45
trey3Tomcat_: ahh... /etc/init.d/gdm  :)11:46
Tomcat_So gdm starts X? :o11:46
Tomcat_Okay then... :)11:46
trey3Tomcat_: cat /etc/init.d/gdm  :/11:46
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Tomcat_trey3: That only starts the gdm binary, and the man page won't tell me if the binary starts the X server...11:47
Tomcat_I just hope I can add something to /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc to get executed just after the X server starts...11:47
xav_I can't fine xine11:47
xav_it's normal?11:47
xav_find11:48
Ensiferumtrey3: i found the reason for my problem!11:48
Tomcat_xav_: Yeah, it's somewhere in universe or multiverse11:48
xav_I added marillat and cerkinfo rep11:48
xav_in synaptic11:48
xav_it added some package like libdvdcss but not xine11:48
xav_I added multiverse too11:48
Tomcat_xav_: Did you also add Ubuntu universe and multiverse?11:48
xav_not universe11:49
Tomcat_xine-ui is universe.11:49
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IBOICcan ubuntu work off the bsd core instead of linux ? :)11:49
trey3Tomcat_: you can... or even just state new things in ~/.xsession  ;)11:49
IBOICa ubuntu verison of bsd would be sweet11:49
IBOIClinux is too disorganized11:50
IBOICpatches here, there11:50
IBOICno engineering model11:50
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xav_Tomcat_, thanks a lot11:51
zAo^my box fiels 'laggy', though I have direct rendering; will a costum kernel solve my problem (XP 2100, 1GB, Radeon 9600 Pro) ?11:52
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trey3IBOIC: doubtful... udev for example wouldn't work... discover doesn't work on bsd's... neither does hotplug... list goes on...11:52
trey3IBOIC: Debian is being ported to NetBSD and FreeBSD though...   :/11:53
IBOIChmmm11:53
zAo^trey3, under what name?11:53
IBOICtrey3:  see i like bsd11:53
IBOICi know the world seems to be fixated on linux11:53
IBOICi wish there would be a more consumer friendly bsd11:54
IBOICusing the bsd code and adding on to it11:54
IBOICwould like competition11:54
AndyRits called OS X :)11:54
zAo^no1 on my 'kernel-question'?11:54
trey3zAo^: http://www.debian.org/ports/  <-- at the bottem11:54
zAo^thanks11:54
trey3IBOIC: Ubuntu is very Linux centric11:54
IBOICtrey3:  yeah i guess11:55
IBOIClinux is good dont get me wrong11:55
IBOICbsd though has a cleaner engineering model tho so it just works11:55
xav_and I still have a problem with mplayer11:56
kezzbut you can't get drivers for a lot of stuff11:56
IBOICkezz drivers can be ported11:56
xav_it seems that it has some deps with newer version of some programs11:56
xav_I only have older version of these packages available11:56
kezzIBOIC, oh sure but at what cost11:56
IBOICthe media is focusing on linux wish bsd would get more attention :(11:56
zAo^I'm going to try that NetBSD port, thanks :)11:57
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xav_did anyone install mplayer?11:57
zAo^I did, y?11:57
xav_did you read me?11:57
siretartxav_: yes, working great here11:57
trey3IBOIC: the BSD's allow people to steal from them... no company would ever form a business model around that, thus BSD will never be invested in in the same manner11:57
xav_some rep are maybe missing11:58
xav_which one do I need?11:58
zAo^did you use apt?11:58
xav_no but its the same11:58
xav_with apt-get or synaptic11:58
siretartxav_: do you use warty or hoary?11:58
xav_it fails because of dependancies missing11:58
xav_warty11:58
zAo^try this one in /etc/apt/sources.list11:58
zAo^deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ stable main11:58
zAo^deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ testing main11:58
zAo^deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main11:58
siretartxav_: have a look at https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/InstallingMplayerFromHoaryInWarty11:59
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sensebendBSD style licences allow one to fork and keep changes private right?11:59
karimhi11:59
zAo^lo11:59
trey3IBOIC: without corporate investments you don't get advertising... with advertising you don't get mainstream focus11:59
AndyRsensebend, yes11:59
xav_siretart, hoary is newer?11:59
zAo^yes xav_11:59
karimis there a way to make apt-get not update the kernel when a new rev is available ?11:59
xav_how do I get it?11:59
ZzeCoOldoes anyone manage to make wine work under ubuntu?11:59
xav_I've to change the source file?11:59
zAo^I did ZzeCoOl11:59
trey3sensebend: yes... so long as you still publish the license with the work...11:59

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