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| jblack | Dilys on vacation? | 04:06 |
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| jamesh | jblack: on the other channel | 04:22 |
| === lamont beats his head on baz | ||
| lamont | given a source tree, how do I make it go into baz? | 06:43 |
| lamont | 1.0.1, of course. | 06:43 |
| jblack | first you init-tree archivename/this--that--version, tune your =tagging-method, add the files, then import | 06:49 |
| stub | cd mysourcetree; baz init-tree mycategory--mybranch--1.0.1; find . | grep -v \{arch\} | grep -v .arch-ids | xargs -n1 baz add; baz import -S | 06:49 |
| lamont | what does the -S do? | 06:50 |
| lamont | ah, setup | 06:50 |
| lamont | baz init-tree lamont.jones@canonical.com--2004-work/livecd-rootfs--mainline--0 | 06:51 |
| lamont | baz add debian debian/* | 06:51 |
| lamont | baz import -S | 06:51 |
| lamont | import: project tree has no default version | 06:51 |
| lamont | tree: /home/lamont/warthogs/livecd/work | 06:51 |
| lamont | is that what it should say? | 06:51 |
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| stub | Ooh... latest baz doesn't have -S. Just baz import. | 07:00 |
| lamont | same error, of course | 07:00 |
| === lamont is using 1.0.1-2 | ||
| stub | I can't help then - I'm way ahead with crack | 07:01 |
| lamont | rather than the unsupported crack-o-the-day | 07:01 |
| stub | It is supported crack-o-the-day for us. All of the launchpad team is using it. | 07:02 |
| lamont | and yet it's not in hoary, and barring someone convincing the release manager that we should violate the upstream version freeze, 1.0.1 is what'll ship with hoary. | 07:03 |
| lamont | admittedly, that's not a hard sell. | 07:03 |
| stub | Yeah - lifeless tells mark and mark tells mdz and it happens ;) | 07:03 |
| lamont | meanwhile, anyone on the hoary team is faced with the decision of using what our users are (hoary), or using crack-o-day | 07:04 |
| lamont | all of which just helps add to the frustration that leads to 'cvs import' | 07:05 |
| stub | If you have used crack-o-day, it is a no brainer decision. It is *much* better. | 07:05 |
| lamont | then either ship it or support what you ship] | 07:05 |
| stub | baz 1.0.1 was pretty much just tla with fewer bugs IIRC | 07:06 |
| lamont | yeah, I'm more likely to just import it into tla | 07:06 |
| lamont | since, as it currently sits, it's (a) useless, and (b) unsupported | 07:06 |
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| stub | The method you would use for tla should work with 1.0.1 too - we just can't test it (cause if we downgrade, we can't checkout launchpad since it is in a new-format archive) | 07:08 |
| lamont | yeah - only I don't have enough experience with importing into tla to make it a no-brainer for me... I'll grab the docs and get the import done tomorrow | 07:08 |
| stub | If I remember the documentation on that, it might be worth saving some time and start by poking jblack ;) | 07:09 |
| lamont | nah - just whack google for tla meets hello world, use the tla commands and then use baz for everything after that. | 07:10 |
| stub | That is the doc I remember. It prompted me to get off my arse and write the initial baz command line strawman ;) | 07:12 |
| lamont | heh | 07:13 |
| lamont | it's crap, but the commands are there at a rate of almost 1 per page | 07:14 |
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| lifeless | baz 1.0.1 can read launchpad | 08:28 |
| lifeless | lamont: you forgot 'init-tree some-fully-qualified-verison-here' | 08:28 |
| lamont | lifeless: yeah - with arch-meets in front of me, it only took about 5 minutes to glean the commands i needed from that and get the thing into the repository | 08:30 |
| lamont | but it really would be nice to get something more usable than 1.0.1 into hoary | 08:31 |
| lamont | esp now that the upstream version freeze has arrived | 08:31 |
| lifeless | lamont: we had a whole argument on this at Mataro | 08:31 |
| lamont | yeah. and I still don't understand why you would rather support developers using 1.0.1 more than 1.1-pre. But that's your call | 08:32 |
| lifeless | I'm happy to inflict 1.1 on folk that opt it. But I'm not interested in our crack-of-the-minute code being given to X thousand folk. | 08:32 |
| lamont | I just know it would be embarassing to ship 1.0.1 with hoary | 08:32 |
| lifeless | because 1.0.1 is a known quantity. 1.1 *might* have a data-eating bug tomorrow. | 08:32 |
| lifeless | if I have to fix 20-odd archives, I'll survive. | 08:32 |
| lifeless | but if I have to fix 1K archives, I'm in deep shit. | 08:32 |
| lifeless | to turn it around, why doesn't hoary use kernel 2.7 ? | 08:33 |
| lamont | understood.. is 1.1 at least packaged somewhere? or is it 'grab the crack-of-the-day after making sure it's not terribly broken by asking in #launchpad'? | 08:33 |
| jblack | there isn't one? | 08:33 |
| lamont | because we know we won't be shipping 2.7? | 08:33 |
| lifeless | deb http://bazaar.canonical.com/packages/debs/ ./ | 08:33 |
| lamont | I'll ponder some more whether I want to eat dogfood, or switch to the newer baz | 08:34 |
| lifeless | anyway, in 1 week 1.1 will be released, and you'll get 1.1 in hoary | 08:34 |
| lamont | remember to work through the exception process to get approval before you upload it... | 08:35 |
| lifeless | lamont: its easy, I don't package it for hoary. | 08:35 |
| lamont | who does? | 08:36 |
| lifeless | mdz | 08:36 |
| lamont | which just means that the discussion comes beforethe packaging. | 08:36 |
| lifeless | the discussion all happened in Mataro, AFAIK its a done deal. | 08:36 |
| lamont | anyway, seriously bedtime here. g'night | 08:36 |
| lifeless | the whole mataro thing was whether 1.2 or 1.3 would be acceptable. | 08:37 |
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| sabdfl | hi all, we need to zero in on the problems holding back the production server | 10:28 |
| sabdfl | stub, spiv, carlos, SteveA, who's around to brief me on the status? | 10:29 |
| stub | sabdfl: Morning. Meeting in 2.5 hours which will get you a full update if you are around. | 10:32 |
| bob2 | that sounds like a "no" ;-) | 10:33 |
| stub | ;) | 10:34 |
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| sabdfl | erk, sorry, gaim crashed | 10:34 |
| lifeless | sabdfl: you know about launchpad-dev ? | 10:35 |
| sabdfl | ah, thought it was launchpad-devel, that's why there's nobody else there :-) | 10:35 |
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| SteveA | hey jamesh | 02:23 |
| SteveA | let's have a chat about calendaring while the soyuz discussion is going on on the other channel | 02:23 |
| jamesh | okay | 02:23 |
| SteveA | what still needs to be done before you can merge stuff into the main launchpad code? | 02:24 |
| SteveA | there's the database layout review | 02:25 |
| SteveA | and that'll start happening today when mark and stu look over the email you sent | 02:25 |
| jamesh | there are a number of things that need to be done, but I'm not sure which ones need to be finished before merging | 02:25 |
| SteveA | was there an issue about implementing http PUT? that needn't delay a merge though | 02:25 |
| jamesh | recurring events probably doesn't need to be done before merging. | 02:26 |
| SteveA | rihgt | 02:26 |
| SteveA | right | 02:26 |
| jamesh | I haven't hooked up the iCalendar export/import yet | 02:26 |
| jamesh | so haven't looked into the PUT issue | 02:26 |
| SteveA | okay | 02:26 |
| SteveA | where there any changes to the rest of launchpad as part of the calendaring stuff? | 02:27 |
| jamesh | most of it is self contained | 02:27 |
| lifeless | SteveA: how much longer do I need to be around. its 00:30 | 02:27 |
| SteveA | i'd like to review the stuff that isn't | 02:27 |
| jamesh | the only changes to be made elsewhere is adding a "calendar" field to tables that can have calendars | 02:27 |
| SteveA | lifeless: no longer. thanks for coming to the meeting | 02:27 |
| lifeless | np. night .. | 02:28 |
| jamesh | and updating the corresponding sqlobject to add the field and implement ICalendarOwner | 02:28 |
| jamesh | with that, the calendar code automatically hooks up the URL | 02:28 |
| jamesh | I also need to add code for managing subscriptions before people can properly make use of the calendar | 02:29 |
| SteveA | is this stuff in your archive mirror on chinstrap? | 02:29 |
| jamesh | most of it is | 02:29 |
| jamesh | there is a bit of stuff I haven't committed/mirrored yet | 02:30 |
| SteveA | can you do that soon? | 02:30 |
| SteveA | and send me an email with a sort of high-level guide to help me see what code is where? | 02:30 |
| SteveA | i'd like to look through the code, so i can understand how it fits together | 02:30 |
| SteveA | I'll be traveling to england tomorrow, so i could look through things on the plane | 02:31 |
| jamesh | I'll commit what I have tonight and send the email. | 02:31 |
| SteveA | thanks james | 02:31 |
| SteveA | kiko, mark and i will talk about the longer term plans for calendaring in london next week | 02:32 |
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| lamont | can I nuke {arch}/++pristene-trees with impunity? | 04:35 |
| sabdfl | ddaa: can you go ahead with the newt import please? | 05:04 |
| sabdfl | ddaa: i'm trying to see how smooth the process is for an outsider | 05:04 |
| ddaa | okay | 05:05 |
| ddaa | the smoothness depends very much on how broken is the cvs :-/ | 05:06 |
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| mdz | I just created a project when I should have created a product | 05:51 |
| mdz | can someone clean it up? | 05:52 |
| kiko | cprov, mdz corroborates project/product-explorer functionality | 05:53 |
| cprov | kiko: I see | 05:54 |
| mdz | well, the name of it is 'sudo' if anyone feels like fixing it | 06:00 |
| mdz | A SYSTEM ERROR OCCURRED | 06:08 |
| mdz | PC LOAD LETTER | 06:08 |
| mdz | this is very frustrating | 06:08 |
| mdz | I spend 10 minutes filling out the 5 required fields, 2 of paragraph length, and am rewarded with "A system error occurred" | 06:08 |
| mdz | sabdfl: my experience with the process so far would not be described as 'smooth' | 06:09 |
| mdz | if anyone is available to go over these problems with me, and get them fixed so that we can proceed with imports for HCT testing, please let me know | 06:11 |
| sabdfl | mdz: relax, please create a product, point at the cvs repo, and i'll work on the DOAP front page a little | 06:13 |
| mdz | sabdfl: I can't create a product; that's the trouble | 06:16 |
| mdz | I just tried to do alsa-driver | 06:16 |
| mdz | previously openoffice.org | 06:17 |
| mdz | sudo seemed to work, as did evms | 06:17 |
| BradB | mdz: it's probably because of the .'s and -'s in the names | 06:23 |
| BradB | I'm guessing, but that seems a definite possibility. | 06:24 |
| mdz | BradB: the name I used for alsa was "driver" | 06:24 |
| BradB | oh | 06:24 |
| mdz | since that's what they call it upstream, and it'll be unique within the ALSA project | 06:24 |
| BradB | mdz: product names are globally unique | 06:25 |
| mdz | that's not what it told me on the web page | 06:25 |
| mdz | Upstream Product Details | 06:25 |
| mdz | Name (Required) | 06:25 |
| mdz | The short name of this product, which must be unique among all the products from the same project. | 06:25 |
| BradB | ouch | 06:25 |
| BradB | so did you call something else driver by any chance? I'm just seeing if I can offer a quick solution to you before anyone else jumps in. | 06:26 |
| cprov | yep, It might be my fault, I'll update the description | 06:26 |
| mdz | using "ALSA driver" doesn't work any better, though (a system error occurred) | 06:26 |
| mdz | and I'm fairly certain there is nothing else called that | 06:26 |
| BradB | mdz: fwiw, a valid name is ^[a-z0-9] [a-z0-9\\+\\.\\-] +$ | 06:27 |
| mdz | BradB: then where did "Alsa utilities" come from? | 06:28 |
| mdz | is that a database constraint or an input validation? | 06:28 |
| BradB | is that the title, or the name? i.e. when you traverse to it, do you see an Alsa%20utilities in the URL? | 06:28 |
| BradB | mdz: DB constraint | 06:28 |
| mdz | BradB: ok, so it must be the title | 06:29 |
| BradB | mdz: I don't recall offhand if we also check that in app-level code. | 06:29 |
| mdz | there ought to be a link from a product to the project that it's associated with; I can't find one | 06:29 |
| BradB | this is where i hand off to cprov ;) | 06:30 |
| BradB | mdz: is the regex above enough to not get system errors now though? | 06:30 |
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| cprov | mdz: yes, in "Product Review" you can select a project than you will see the Project portlet on right side | 06:32 |
| sabdfl | can someone think of an example of a real project other than apache, mozilla, debian? | 06:32 |
| mdz | GNU | 06:32 |
| mdz | ALSA | 06:33 |
| mdz | GNOME | 06:33 |
| mdz | Ubuntu | 06:33 |
| sabdfl | ok, it's the project creation that's b0rked in general | 06:36 |
| sabdfl | let me see if i can replicate locally | 06:36 |
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