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[05:33] <froud> morning
[05:34] <froud> sivang, what you on about. you lost me
[05:39] <sivang> froud: morning.. finishing the user profile management of g-s-t.
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[05:41] <sivang> froud: that is, the default privilege groups part of the profile managemnt.
[05:42] <froud> exlent
[05:42] <froud> now what about scrollkeeper
[05:42] <froud> why you awake at 06H30
[05:47] <froud> Intersting quote for the morning
[05:47] <froud> "When we are no longer children, we are already dead."
[05:47] <froud> - Constantin Brancusi
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=== sivang wants some also :)
[05:52] <froud> me serves up coffee for sivang http://www.starbucks.com/default.asp?cookie%5Ftest=1
[05:53] <froud> sivang, what's in scrollkeeper the docs
[05:55] <froud> sivang, I gotta leave for Sun City soon
[06:06] <sivang> froud: sorry, I have to finish this before, maybe tommorow ? :)
[06:08] <froud> ok bye
[07:11] <ChrisH> Uh... kids are so great... 4 hours sleep at the weekend. :(
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[01:15] <skyrider> hi
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[01:16] <skyrider> Can anybody load main page of our wiki (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/) ?
[01:17] <skyrider> Oops, it works again
[01:17] <skyrider> sorry
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[01:32] <skyrider> Guys, what is the reason to have two different versions of Hoary release shedule in the wiki?
[01:33] <skyrider> Is it just mistake?
[01:33] <skyrider>   http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HoaryReleaseSchedule AND http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HoaryHedgehogReleaseSchedule
[01:37] <skyrider> anybody alive?
[01:37] <skyrider> :)
[01:55] <_d4vid> yomon da
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[05:39] <_d4vid> http://sales.limewire.com/040508/fo0u82D7914GAK0mL0OMWiIsSJpXVmBN/index.shtml
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[07:29] <abelli> ciao
[07:29] <Kinnison> ciao abelli 
[07:30] <abelli> did you guys guys check this part of the guide http://ubuntuguide.org/#repositories ?
[07:30] <abelli> Kinnison: Yo
=== froud closes bug https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5079 "Write Ubuntu Documentation License" See https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AboutTheUbuntuCoreDocumentationProject "Our Documentation License"
=== froud closes bug https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5145 "Who is the copyright holder for docteam documentation?" See "Write Ubuntu Documentation License" See https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AboutTheUbuntuCoreDocumentationProject "Our Documentation License"
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[07:49] <froud> enrico, helo
[07:50] <enrico> hello!
[07:50] <enrico> froud: so cool the license issue has been sorted out!!
[07:50] <froud> yes and licenses are in SVN
[07:50] <froud> and docs use them
[07:50] <froud> and LICENSE file is update
[07:50] <enrico> I have a question about the User's Guide: mdz asks me "In what ways will it be different from the existing User's Guide?"
[07:51] <enrico> and now I ask myself: what existing user's guide?
[07:51] <froud> you mean admin vs users
[07:51] <froud> oh
[07:51] <froud> yes I heard the same about quick guide
[07:51] <froud> dunno mate
[07:51] <froud> b 4 my time
[07:52] <froud> I expected you had a reason have the user guide
[07:52] <froud> now I learn there is another copy as with the install guide
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[07:53] <enrico> well, wait
[07:53] <enrico> there is no other copy of the quick guide, what exists, is in svn
[07:53] <enrico> so, that can go full-gear
[07:53] <froud> OK
[07:53] <froud> now what about User Guide?
[07:54] <enrico> I'm trying to understand it.  I have no idea what mdz means with that, so I was investigating
[07:54] <enrico> The User's Guide was mainly managed by John, so I don't know much about it
[07:54] <froud> can mdz giv eyou a URI
[07:54] <enrico> I'll ask for one.
[07:55] <froud> p.s. updates screen capt part hope it is as you wanted
[07:56] <enrico> froud: I haven't had a look yet
[07:56] <enrico> it's been a saturday out, here
[07:56] <froud> yes Saturday here too
[07:56] <froud> just got back from Sun City
[07:57] <froud> www.suninternational.com/resorts/suncity/
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[08:03] <abelli> enrico...
[08:03] <abelli> achtung
[08:04] <froud> Well thats all for me folk for today. See you later.
[08:04] <enrico> froud: I suspect that mdz is mentioning an Ubuntu port of the Debian User's Guide and we have little to worry, though
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[08:04] <froud> enrico, good
[08:05] <froud> enrico, the document "AboutTheUbuntuCoreDocumentationProject"
[08:05] <froud> its comming along nicely. It is getting long. I will take some time tomorrow
[08:06] <froud> to work a structure for the Documentation Web Site
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[08:06] <enrico> :)
[08:06] <froud> but I though the license stuff of higher priority
[08:06] <enrico> Don't worry.  Wiki philosophy would be to split it into atomic pieces of information and then put each one of them in one page
[08:07] <enrico> Sure: the license was indeed higher priority and I'm so happy it's been already settlen
[08:07] <abelli> froud: are you working on a documentation website?
[08:08] <froud> abelli, no its a document to document the documentation project. It will eventually become part of a structure under wiki for the documentation side of the project
[08:08] <froud> I still need to device the structure, ideas welcome :;;-)
[08:08] <enrico> froud: ideas?  I have lots :)
[08:08] <abelli> ahh because ubuntu italia, ha a "documentation&&translation project"
[08:09] <enrico> froud: another idea would be to split that into a series of tutorials (like the screenshots one), that can directly be followed by people
[08:09] <abelli> and theyre working on the dbase infrastructure
[08:09] <abelli> now
[08:09] <froud> Send [proposal]  to the list and lets discuss it
[08:09] <froud> that it will be self documenting
[08:10] <froud> I already lik ethe idea about Documentation and Internationalization Project
[08:10] <froud> i18n and l10n
[08:11] <froud> I think you know lots about translations
[08:11] <froud> right
[08:11] <froud> abelli, perhaps you can document the po file process of translation
[08:11] <froud> I use KBabel under KDE
[08:11] <froud> what do you use under GNOME?
[08:11] <froud> etc
[08:13] <abelli> whos talking to who?
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[08:13] <froud> abelli, you know lots about translations (i18n and l10n)
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[08:14] <abelli> froud: sincerely not, but i do my best
[08:14] <froud> do you know how to use po files
[08:14] <abelli> yeah
[08:14] <froud> so you understand the process
[08:14] <froud> can you document it
[08:15] <abelli> ahh..
[08:15] <froud> po for dummies
[08:15] <froud> like me
[08:15] <abelli> but you can use rosetta..
[08:15] <froud> I use Kbabel
[08:15] <abelli> and explain gettext..
[08:15] <abelli> well someone really better than has already done it yet
[08:15] <froud> can Rosetta take an XML file and do po files etc
[08:16] <froud> does Rosetta use translation memories
[08:17] <abelli> well lets ask to daf
[08:17] <froud> Where can I find info on Rosetta
[08:17] <froud> daf?
[08:17] <enrico> froud: Dafydd Harries <daf@muse.19inch.net>
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[08:18] <froud> 19" :-)
[08:18] <froud> daf wishes
[08:18] <froud> ok Im off
[08:18] <sivang> enrico: you've just spammed the hell of of his email :)
[08:19] <abelli> sivang: ahh..
[08:19] <enrico> Did I?
[08:19] <abelli> enrico: yes.
[08:19] <sivang> do you remember irclog.workaround.org ?
[08:19] <enrico> Do we have spam-collection bots in the channel?  Is the log archived publicly in a bot-accessible way?
[08:19] <enrico> And anyway, daf writes to Debian lists, so...  :)
[08:19] <abelli> enrico dont cheat.. it's normal..
[08:20] <sivang> enrico: eheheh
[08:20] <sivang> enrico: so that's no biggy
[08:20] <abelli> :)
[08:20] <sivang> debian lists are way spammend :)
=== enrico ronfs
[08:20] <enrico> gotta go.  Byw!
[08:20] <sivang> enrico: bye!
[08:20] <abelli> enrico: buona notte
[08:20] <abelli> ..a little late
[08:21] <abelli> froud: are you still with us
[08:22] <abelli> froud: good night :)
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