=== magnon [~magnon@cD9088834.sdsl.catch.no] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ironwolf [~ironwolf@c-24-6-169-124.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ogra [~ogra@p508EBE84.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:14] no luck for me with the daily livecd on amd64 :`( === ironwolf [~ironwolf@c-24-6-169-124.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:18] anyone here happen to use SOAPpy? [12:20] (python-soappy) seems not to work when return type is float, even the examples given on its homepage don't work :\ === calc wonders if he is doing something wrong with it === asw [~asw@node-423a728a.bos.onnet.us.uu.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === asw [~asw@node-423a728a.bos.onnet.us.uu.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:58] calc: I haven't, no === mdz nags calc about libogg ;-) === mdz [~mdz@69-167-148-207.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:18] http://people.ubuntu.com/~jdub/planet/ [01:18] el commento scorchio? [01:21] jdub: why the white background? [01:22] so it doesn't look like someone weed on it [01:22] also, it generally looks better (people kinda assume) [01:23] jdub: it might look better but it's inconsistent with all the other ubuntu/canonical websites [01:23] yep [01:23] i've left the rest of the chrome in the same colour [01:24] jdub: scorchio! [01:24] it's a simple change if people really deliriously object [01:24] jdub: not such a fan of the yellow up top, but shit, it's come a long way [01:25] website redesign contest announce going out soon ;) [01:25] jdub: what is up with the scaling in the multiload applet? [01:25] WORD [01:25] mdz: scaling? [01:25] what it appears to be doing is considering the highest sample in the current period to be the maximum [01:25] and scaling the graph relative to that [01:25] haha [01:25] which means that if there is any activity at all, it looks like it is maxed [01:26] for which graph? [01:26] all of them [01:26] doesn't seem to do that for cpu [01:26] arch? [01:26] maybe not for cpu, dunno [01:26] looking at network and I/O [01:26] i386 [01:26] right now I am downloading a file at about 150kbyte/sec [01:26] over 100mbit ethernet [01:26] and the network graph is full [01:27] I think a smarter idea would be to remember the highest value ever seen [01:27] mdz: it has detected that you're using low quality cabling [01:27] and treat that as max, where no authoritative value is available [01:27] yeah [01:28] pinging davyd, who is probably not awake === mxpxpod [~bryan@208.252.112.24] has joined #ubuntu-devel === enrico_ [~enrico@218-164-130-181.dynamic.hinet.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === enrico_ is now known as enrico [02:00] http://weblog.zerokspot.com/posts/164/ === usual [~colin@alb-69-202-43-37.nycap.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === robertj [A@66-188-77-153.cpe.ga.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:23] are the autobuilders up yet? [02:24] robertj: up is such a relative term. === mxpxpod [~bryan@208.252.112.24] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:24] 3 of them were actually up and running (out of 12)... I'm rebuilding chroots on all of them right now, spring cleaning and all that [02:25] ahh, do you know if there is anything in the que for xorg and friends === mojo [~mojo@220-244-212-78-vic.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:25] although I'm not unsure it's not pangos fault, I need to check on that [02:26] great results though, like every font in every gtk app was like 1 point ;) [02:30] haven't looked - see people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/Lists/hoary.all.{i386,amd64,powerpc,ia64} [02:30] if it says 'Needs-Build', then it's queued === T-Bone calls it a night, bye all === elmo [~james@george.kkhotels.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === T-Bone is now known as T-None [02:36] wow, that's quite a list [02:56] hrm.. wonder if thom is awake [02:56] o/~ all this time in litigation, so much for darl's happy ending o/! [02:57] Is the canonical conference before or after LCA? [02:57] mjg59: I expect after, dunno [02:57] it's certainly after the release [02:58] after [02:58] mjg59: dates will be announced next week [02:58] mjg59: it'll basically be 25th-30th [02:59] Hm. I might actually be able to make that, possibly. [02:59] jdub: When are you getting married, then? :) [03:00] 17th [03:00] 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 [03:00] 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 [03:00] 17 == married [03:00] Haha [03:00] 18-23 == linux.conf.au [03:00] 25-30 == ubuntudownunder [03:00] I have to teach on the 2nd May [03:00] 1 == FUCK OFF [03:00] jdub: pia is gonna kill you, you know... [03:01] But from the end of March until then, I'm free [03:01] lamont: i prepped her for it a long while back :) [03:01] So I may actually be able to join you guys [03:03] that'd be rad [03:03] would love to see you at desktop.conf.au too :) === jdub is renaming gnome.conf.au [03:03] mjg59: you asking aswell? [03:03] sladen: Mm? [03:04] jdub: Well, when there's some better idea as to what's going on, I'll let you know what's possible [03:04] mjg59: same question I asked jdub, only a couple of hours ago :) [03:05] sladen: Pff. You expect me to analyse history? [03:05] jdub: there are 2 gnome confs a year? the one in germany and the one in .au? and so close by date.. :) [03:06] sivang: there are many [03:06] there's GUADEC (which roams around europe, and is the biggest) [03:06] there's the summit, which is based in boston [03:06] there's a spanish one [03:06] there's gnome.conf.au [03:06] there's one in chile [03:06] jdub: which one is the best to attend ? :-) (I think I can predict the answer from you) [03:06] mjg59: it was a /privmsg to be fare [03:06] Guadec is probably the single most important [03:07] if ubuntu doesn't have more mini-confs than gnome within a year, i'm going to buy a jet and do them myself :) [03:07] sivang: guadec [03:07] GUADEC is 28th-30th May in Stuttgard [03:07] pretty much everyone goes to guadec [03:07] The summit probably gets more done, but guadec shapes what's going to be done significantly more [03:07] and there's more fanboys [03:07] Yeah, you get to meet and fanboy rml [03:08] mjg59: fanboy rml? [03:08] mjg59: and everyone gets to meet and fanboy you [03:08] sivang: you can rob him of his love [03:09] sivang: rml deserves mad fanboying [03:10] who is rml? :-) [03:10] rob love, kernel hackeur [03:12] hmm, is there some way of getting intouch with some one from Stuttgart who are going to GUADEC and could perhaps let some other, like me for example, live at his/her's place over the event? I have never been at such an event, but i think it would be fun.. [03:14] kent: you have similar plans to me, but this is a good 4 months away yet... [03:14] jdub: ah yeah, just read about him in the speakers list :-) quite a guy [03:15] sladen, yeah.. and i'm very good at making plans in the middle of the night, which i forget the next day. But i think i will write this down. I looked at the internet, and if i only have to pay for the tickets to get there, and some for the food, then i think i can afford it. [03:15] kent: jump on guadec-list and ask [03:28] I like how this year's guadec is in much the same place as akademy was last year [03:29] Riddell: wouldn't want to risk holding a major conference somewhere without letting some minor, dispenable conference test the waters first [03:30] sladen: you know that tone of voice in #ubuntu would get you a telling off from jdub :) [03:31] akademy was bloody huge dude [03:31] and very long [03:42] yes, too long one conference would have been enough, but good fun [03:43] guadec misses a hacking session though which surprises me, you can't do that much in a weekend [03:48] is everything ok with bugzilla? won't let me in.... [03:49] eh ok, cache refreshment did it. [03:51] sivang: that /ubunturocks spells ubuntu ubutu [03:53] sivang: might also be worth saying ''This is what Ars said:'' as somebody has mentioned elsewhere as it could be seen as Ubuntu slagging off Debian by appearing to agree ...which would be unlike Ubuntu === stub [~stub@dsl-246.248.240.220.dsl.comindico.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:03] jdub: can I patch 'passwd root' to say: ''I'm sorry Dave... I can't let you do that. It's for your own safety you know'' [04:04] :-) [04:05] jdub: is anyone working on adding the capabilty to configure which sound device should be primary in the desktop? [04:05] i.e., which one esd/polyp/etc. will use? [04:05] hmmm is there's something wrong with katie? [04:06] mdz: not atm [04:06] sladen: is the --rsyncable stuff really that simple? [04:06] amu: elmo said it was b0rked up a bit earlier [04:06] sladen: I looked at the code once, and it wasn't immediately obvious what it was doing [04:06] mdz: uh huh [04:07] sladen: on what did you base the 0.07% penalty estimate? [04:07] mdz: the main bit is a counter that counts down to the next sync point and ensures and any string that is created in the output is capped at the next sync point and a new string started again [04:08] jdub: yeah i thought it was fixed a bit later, looks not ... thx [04:08] mdz: somebody from Debian quotes somehwere that it works out as 0.7% on most packages and 1.2% on ''some of our core packages'' [04:09] mdz: on the live CD, the sync point could be set every 1MB and it'd still probably make a major difference [04:09] sladen: hard to say, because the filesystem inside might allocate things differently from one run to the next [04:09] what I was thinking was that it could sync every block [04:09] mdz: I chatted to broonie earlier about what might get upstream and how to allow variable sync windows [04:09] since it's compressing blockwise anyway [04:10] and if we set fs block size = compression block size, and sync at every block, we should do very well [04:11] yup. The other thing I forgot to mention, is running touch over the whole FS to force ctime/atime to a known value [04:12] since those will change with each unpack/build [04:12] hmm [04:12] the entire inode would need to be identical for it to be a win [04:13] size, atime, ctime, mtime, permissions and ownership... [04:13] could be other filesystem-specific data in that block as well [04:13] reiser at least will pack the data for tiny files in the same block with the inode [04:13] though I don't think ext2 does anything like that [04:14] it doesn't [04:14] I think that's worthwhile to try, though [04:14] having an entire filesystem with the same inode times will look a bit weird, but I don't imagine it would break anything === tritium [~tritium@12-202-90-180.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:21] elmo: did you find Riddell's bug? [04:24] actually, there's no bug in katie, the reject message is very scary, but all accurate.. [04:24] elmo: calc mentioned the archive md5sums were wrong [04:24] jdub: err, seems unlikely? [04:24] dunno [04:25] got any details, I don't have a client logging at home anymore [04:25] calc: ping [04:25] jdub: pong [04:25] yea i ran apt-get update and it was failing [04:26] it works now [04:26] so not sure what changed, unless someone recently fixed it [04:26] btw anyone know how to tell a python module to install under /usr/local ? [04:26] what's "failing", and where are your sources.list's pointing? [04:28] it was hoary universe that had bad md5sum, but it works fine now [04:28] deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary universe [04:28] that one afaik [04:29] well, please capture the error message next time - but nothing's changed on a.u.c, so I'm guessing it was a transient network thing [04:30] bah, silly fascist hotel starts dropping NEW ports if you don't make port 80 requests every so often [04:31] ok [04:39] night all === robertj [~robertj@66-188-77-153.cpe.ga.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:43] cool i found out why SOAPpy doesn't work for me [04:43] its too darn old and needs to be updated [04:43] 0.11.3 is in hoary and doesn't work but 0.11.6 works fine [04:50] I'm dangerously close to building my first .deb, kinda scary really [04:51] robertj: read all the docs already? :) [04:52] robertj, awesome :) [04:53] calc: yeah [04:53] ignoring most of the stuff for now though ;) [04:54] robertj, new maintainer, I presume? How long did the process take? === mpt [~mpt@210-246-37-68.paradise.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:55] trit: nahh, just on my own [04:57] robertj, cool [04:57] pre and postinst dont seem to be firing yet though === lamont sleeps [05:09] Kamion: let me know if there were any issues with livecd/di (other than you needing to change the name of the host you fetch from...) [05:13] is there anything special that needs doing to get the scripts to run? Running by hand yields the expected results [05:16] set -e [05:16] gtk-query-immodules-2.0 > /etc/gtk-2.0/gtk.immodules [05:16] exit 0 [05:16] that's the extent of it, but nothing hapening unless I run them by hand for preinst and postinst === tuo2 [~foo@adsl-36-114.swiftdsl.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === wasabi [~wasabi@c-24-1-67-127.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Simira [rpGirl@m146i.studby.ntnu.no] has joined #ubuntu-devel === thully [~thully@151.144.196.182] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mpt [~mpt@210-246-37-219.paradise.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu-devel === maskie [~maskie@196-30-108-15.uudial.uunet.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-devel === thully_ [~thully@pm480-07.dialip.mich.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:42] Is there currently a recommended snapshot CD to be used for installing Hoary? === thully [~thully@pm471-25.dialip.mich.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:47] I lost my connection - but I was just wondering if anyone knows a good Ubuntu Hoary snapshot to use for installation === OddAbe19 [~OddAbe19@pcp02542642pcs.lncstr01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === BlackHussar [~BlackHuss@dsl081-081-225.lax1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:24] Setting up debsums (2.0.13) ... [07:24] /var/lib/dpkg/info/debsums.config:5: local: not found === bob2 blames lamont [07:39] HAH [07:39] it *is* lamont's fault [07:39] I changed /bin/sh to be posh [07:40] and setting it back to bash fixes it === thully [~thully@pm476-18.dialip.mich.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:05] hi - is Ubuntu going to handle the Mozilla trademark issue in the same way Debian eventually does? === froud [~sean@ndn-165-141-101.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:07] hi, does ubuntu support Ipv6? [08:07] yes [08:07] thanks [08:09] hah, nevow is in supported [08:11] bob2, ? what === froud [~sean@ndn-165-141-101.telkomadsl.co.za] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] [08:28] is someone in charge of making the mono toolchain work on ubuntu atm? === HostingGeek [~HostingGe@200.48.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === HostingGeek [~HostingGe@220.233.48.200] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:37] mornign === HostingGeek [~HostingGe@200.48.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === HostingGeek [~HostingGe@200.48.233.220.exetel.com.au] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [08:42] lamont: ping [09:26] lamont: is it bad if I'm getting a ton of these: postdrop: warning: mail_queue_enter: create file maildrop/173496.8172: Permission denied [09:32] thom: ping [09:36] lamont: I found http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2000/12/msg03524.html, but it doesn't seem to be the problem in this case === froud [~sean@ndn-165-141-101.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:57] is anyone maintaining a list of Release Notes for Hoary or knows where I can fin dinformation to compiled Release Notes? [10:18] lamont: erk, it seems was filesystem was slightly fucked === mirak [~mirak@AAubervilliers-152-1-22-129.w83-114.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lupus_ [~lupus@dD5E03FB3.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:17] night === Kosai [cjb@islay.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === elmo [~james@george.kkhotels.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:24] Hrr. Is it safe to remove esd? === enrico is now known as enrico_ === enrico_ is now known as enrico === abelli [~abelli@84.222.39.195] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:52] Kamion: i'll have trouble giving you the content of /proc/cpuinfo if i'm unable to load a kernel ;) === T-None is now known as T-Bone === seb128 [~seb128@ANancy-151-1-16-177.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:53] Kamion: I can give you more detailed info about ia64, i have a scratch box, and ppc64 (same), but for the G4 it's gonna be more tricky: I'm not very inclined to wipe out the install I made :P [12:56] Kamion: i'll give a shot at elilo/efibootmgr package too. [01:00] T-Bone: you can run through the install up to the beginning of the partitioning step; that does all the hardware detection but doesn't touch the box [01:00] good point, but the hotplug bug shows _after_ install [01:00] T-Bone: also a tarball of /proc/device-tree on the G4 might be useful, along with what you needed to put in /etc/modules by hand [01:00] T-Bone: even in hoary? [01:01] Kamion: i wouldn't have much to report tho: it's basically hanging [01:01] hoary's installer uses hotplug [01:01] warty's does not [01:01] Kamion: it doesn't happen during the install [01:01] it's after rebooting [01:01] bizarre === Kamion would try running the hotplug scripts with 'set -x' [01:02] i see "starting hotplug..." then the cursor moves 1 1/2 screen and then it hangs [01:02] ok, now let's see what lamont did to debootstrap ... :) [01:02] hehe [01:02] Kamion: i'm off for breakfast, bbiab for more debug :) === T-Bone is now known as T-Gone [01:41] mdz: Argh. How do I convince apt that packages in /var/cache/apt/archives have already been authenticated? [01:46] Kamion: apt-ftparchive and gpg ;) === T-Gone is now known as T-Bone [01:51] daniels: ... uh-huh [01:51] gpg with what key, exactly? one I just made up? I bet that'll be in ubuntu-keyring ;) [01:52] Kamion: oh and of course, it was daily from 20050115 [01:52] hmm, daniels i got a new laptop with 1280x800 .... there seems to be no chance to convice xorg to do this res. except by specifying a modeline.... [01:52] must have been on crack when writing the date [01:53] first bad new: I don't have /var/log/debian-installer [01:53] lamont: uh, why does ia64 need libunwind7*-dev* in base? [01:53] T-Bone: that's only there after the installation is complete [01:53] during installation, it's /var/log/syslog [01:54] Kamion: i reiterate: there is no linux-image-* in /cdrom/pool/main/l/ [01:54] T-Bone: good. [01:54] T-Bone: it's in linux-meta [01:54] probably restricted [01:54] find /cdrom -name linux\* [01:54] right, my bad [01:54] it's there ;) [01:54] I reiterate, send me /var/log/syslog :) [01:55] after base-installer has run and failed [01:55] Kamion: 'after installation' means after a successful installation, i suppose [01:55] it means post-reboot after prebaseconfig has run [01:55] since it hasn't... ;) [01:55] so it would probably have to be successful to some degree, yeah [01:55] ok, i'll scratch the box again and grab the files [01:55] you have nc in the installer, so you can get files out [01:55] netcat, yummy ;) [01:56] there's openssh-client-udeb too, but I don't want to exacerbate the anna problems ... [01:56] heh [01:56] Kamion: so, usefbdev on powerpc ... speak to me. [01:56] daniels: I don't know what the generic answer is === T-Bone needs to recall his limited netcat-fu [01:57] Kamion: ok. let's see how pinging overfiend goes :) [01:57] Kamion: i'll try the G5 with daily hoary too [01:57] daniels: try Michel Daenzer [01:57] Kamion: good point [01:57] Kamion: How's the Oqo doing? :) [01:57] T-Bone: yeah, will probably stand a better chance there; I think PPC970FX CPU support went in post-warty [01:57] Kosai: installing today's daily, seeing how the new kernel goes [01:58] I need support for my USB wireless thingy in order to develop on it sanely [01:58] Kamion: ok. FYI it's the top end G5 model. Dual 2.5GHz watercooled [01:59] (talk about a fine beast :) [01:59] Kamion: Cool. [02:00] Kamion: before scratching the box i'll patch elilo and efibootmgr to the best of my abilities so that you can integrate it in next snapshots === lupus_ [~lupus@dD5E03FB3.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:01] nick lupusBE [02:01] crap :s sorry [02:02] T-Bone: ok, send me/lamont the patches [02:02] sure [02:03] there's a documentation fix in the d-i manual needed as well, but I'll handle that [02:03] brb, shuffling houses === rburton [~ross@82-133-69-83.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:08] rburton: hey dude :) [02:08] hi daniels === trukulo [~trukulo@176.red-62-57-69.user.auna.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:09] Mithrandir, u there? [02:09] trukulo: time for jeff_big ! :P [02:09] :) ok [02:09] trukulo: yes. [02:09] so going to seed it [02:09] it's the last one, isn't it? [02:09] yes [02:10] blah, my bittorrent client had segfaulted. :/ [02:10] put it again before i seed it [02:10] yeah, it's checking the files on disk now [02:10] ok [02:11] ok, just start seeding [02:11] seeding [02:11] it's checking [02:12] seeding now [02:13] yup, ETA 18-ish hours [02:14] ext2resize in hoary looks like quite an old version (same as sid) - I've got a locally updated version here that is meant to work with 2.6.9+ for online resizing [02:14] perfect [02:14] last one, cool [02:14] yup, great. === daniels stares at X.Org's drivers/ati/Imakefile. [02:27] THIS DOES NOT MAKE SENSE [02:27] die monolithic tree, die [02:28] back [02:28] Kamion: represent [02:28] mdz: arpund? [02:28] around? [02:34] Kamion: who's gonna handle maintainership of Ubuntu-modified ia64 package? :) [02:35] it's cool when your ISP combines shaping of non-local traffic with an ubuntu mirror [02:35] er, "broken ubuntu mirror" [02:36] bob2: d'oh === T-Bone has a working Ubuntu-branded elilo === ogra [~ogra@p508EBE84.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:43] Kamion: ok, on ia64, hotplug dies on /etc/hotplug/prc.rc start [02:44] Kamion: anything you want me try before wiping out the system and reinstalling from scratch? === Capri [~makolb@217.188.228.247] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:58] hrm [02:58] the version of dovecot in warty is a bit pants [03:02] daniels: you handle dbus, right? [03:02] amu: yah [03:03] weeee! kernel panic during boot [03:03] daniels: i need dbus-qt enabled :) could i send you a diff, or this is a problem cause qt isnt in main? [03:03] in ext3 [03:04] amu: problem 'cause qt isn't in main, but if we need to, i could do something similar to what i did for dbus-mono [03:05] amu: how urgently do you need it? i can do it around wednesday if you like [03:05] daniels: How's the crack? [03:06] T-Bone: usually not necessary to change Maintainer: [03:06] T-Bone: but, we hope, the ia64 port team ... i.e. you and others ... :) [03:06] lol [03:06] i can handle elilo i guess ;) [03:06] daniels: that's fine for me, even better if you do it yourself ;) i started packaging kde3.4, and i really want this the dbus things enabled [03:07] T-Bone: try 'sh -x /etc/hotplug/pci.rc start' [03:07] daniels: how was dbus-mono handled without bringing mono into main? [03:07] amu: Qt is in main [03:07] libqt3-dev | 3:3.3.3-7ubuntu1 | hoary/main | amd64, i386, ia64, powerpc [03:07] main = supported, right? === T-Bone needs to document about package management in ubuntu, now that he's a maintainer :P [03:08] mjg59: it's crackful [03:08] Kamion: sure, if i can get that box to boot again i'll try :) [03:08] bob2: yes, everything in main's supported [03:08] mjg59: (but it's also Sunday evening) [03:08] amu: riddell/haggai have been busy porting stuff. KDE 3.4 should already be in there [03:08] bob2: separate source package [03:08] oh, that's crack [03:08] Kamion: nice [03:08] Kamion: oh, it's in main these days? nice [03:08] bob2: yes, doubly so given it sets 'DESTDIR=' [03:08] daniels: libqt3-dev | 3:3.2.3-4ubuntu1 | warty/main | amd64, i386, powerpc [03:08] which was omgwtfbbq [03:08] was always in main [03:08] Kamion: yah [03:08] Kamion: really? [03:08] yep === jdub is reading old, old emails from when he first met thomarse [03:09] heh [03:09] jdub: was he rabbiting on about cargo bar? :) [03:09] due to doxygen IIRC === seb128_ [~seb128@ANancy-151-1-51-145.w83-196.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:09] sladen: aeh? [03:09] hahaha [03:09] daniels: and scubar [03:10] bob2: apparently they have a machine with the getaway there, and there's a *massive* line of skanky english backpackers [03:11] oh man [03:12] that's doubly scary since some of my friends want to go there on saturday [03:13] mm, 308MB dist-upgrade [03:15] is there someone alive, who could restart a sbuild on kdemultimedia-amd64 , it's a blocker, it's depends are just fixed === Kamion hopes that's kdemultimedia/amd64 rather than a separate source package called kdemultimedia-amd64 [03:16] Kamion: at least no-one's had the stupid idea of openoffice.org-amd64; that would be a horror [03:16] (phew!) [03:17] amu: did you just upload to fix its build-depends, or did it depend on broken stuff that's now been fixed? [03:17] the auto-depwaiter often deals with the latter ... [03:18] and the former is done automatically [03:19] daniels: it depended on broken stuff and now it is fixed, uploaded yesterday [03:19] amu: so the stuff it depends on has been fixed? [03:19] daniels: ack [03:20] ok, you may need to kick lamont, else it should just be taken care of [03:21] `kde_42-4.10ubp1_all.deb' -> `/var/apt/ubuntu/dists/warty-backports-staging/universe/binary-i386/kde_42-4.10ubp1_all.deb' [03:21] what sort of version is that? [03:21] what the hell? [03:21] daniels: thx, dbus-qt is scheduled? [03:21] _42? [03:21] amu: wednesday, if you don't need it earlier [03:22] daniels: that's fine for me [03:23] daniels: guess this package never got some love ;) [03:24] heh, not really [03:25] it was broken for *ages* [03:25] Kamion: side note. i don't think any ia64 system ships with PCMCIA (to be confirmed tho), so maybe PCMCIA isn't necessary in d-i [03:27] just take out pcmcia-cs-udeb then [03:28] it shouldn't be very important to take it out though? [03:28] daniels: hehe [03:28] nah. It just asks a (imho) bogus question [03:28] (upstream) [03:28] T-Bone: only in expert mode, which is itself bogus [03:29] we must not ship a system that requires expert mode in order to install correctly :) [03:30] heh [03:30] Kamion: as lamont pointed, I suspect that one of the IDE modules is killing anna. I'll investigate that later, once I'll have answered all others points in your email :) [03:31] Kamion: i wonder why you need to pass the kernel boot arg to have rescue working. Selecting its udeb in the list doesn't seem to work [03:32] T-Bone: long story [03:32] heh ok ;) [03:32] huh, interesting [03:32] i started in non expert mode by mistake, it's working just fine, the CDrom gets detected [03:33] it just red-screen on 'error while running 'modprobe -v amd74xx'' [03:33] T-Bone: I suppose I could db_input rescue/check in rescue mode, but I'm not sure I want to; the correct approach is to add bootloader config to have a separate rescue mode [03:33] that's expert mode for you [03:34] Kamion: the anna issue hasn't been fixed, has it? [03:34] Hm. There's definitely problems with swsusp and interrupt routing after resume at the moment. [03:34] T-Bone: no [03:35] Other than that, https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HoaryPMResults looks pretty promising [03:35] Kamion: then it doesn't affect my configuration [03:35] i bet that's a SCSI problem [03:35]