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LinuxJonesneighborlee, kinda but you can always remove it after you finish compiling12:00
swimBader, gnome terminal any ideas?12:00
Gusto_Stray_: what ip are you having?12:00
Baderswim: click, click, click, then click.12:00
nircan I used a kernel image from debian under ubuntu?12:00
Stray_?12:01
Stray_ip im haveing?12:01
stig_cafuego: i now get a 404 error on that site: Err http://http.us.debian.org sarge/main airsnort 0.2.7e-1 (diff) 404 Not Found12:01
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Stray_my router is standard ip, 192.168.1.112:01
Stray_i tried to dhcp, that didnt work12:01
cafuegostig_: Bloody typical. it's probably updating.12:01
Stray_im now going manual, again, nothing12:01
Gusto_Stray_: yes, and what ip do you got ?12:01
Gusto_none?12:01
stig_caguego: thanks, lol... i'll try it again later12:01
Stray_192.168.1.712:01
Stray_when manually configured12:01
Stray_dhcp, i get nothing, becuase i CANT connect to the router12:02
cafuegostig_: Just run 'apt-get update' again before you try. Also, 'kismet' is WAY nicer then airsnort ;-)12:02
Gusto_Stray_: can you ping the router?12:02
Peterwhats the english 'locales'?12:02
Stray_cant ping the thing.12:02
Gusto_Stray_: and you havent changes the cabling after you changed distro?12:02
Stray_again, im sure it has something to do with the mac address showing all the 0's12:02
stig_cafuego: i'll give them both a try... u r a good un12:02
Stray_no, the cableing is fine12:02
Gusto_hmm, all 0's12:03
neighborleecafuego, whom do I contact regarding possible incorrect prerequisistes for some packages ??12:03
Stray_00:00:00:00:00:0012:03
Gusto_thats strange12:03
Stray_i know12:03
Stray_:s12:03
Gusto_what kind of card?12:03
shockok - another beer and back to coding =)12:03
Stray_realtek!12:03
neighborleecafuego, ie: gcc3.2 is not installed in defauilt install and it should not be a prerequisite in order to install a 'dev' package of a already installed 'lib' on the system12:03
AgrajagI'd say the bit of ROM that holds your MAC addressis shot12:03
Agrajagmaybe a new card is in order12:04
Stray_no. because it was working on my other install like, 10 hours ago12:04
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Gusto_try a knoppix cd or something to see if it works now12:04
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forcottonhi, I just noticed that rhythmbox in hoary has an iPod icon at its 'Source' list. do anyone know how to use that?12:05
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ivahello12:05
Gusto_have you tried changing the pci positon?12:06
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sjoerdforcotton: you need to mount your ipod on /mmt/ipod12:06
Stray_working fine..12:06
Stray_seriously guys, its not the card12:06
forcottonsjoerd, I'm off trying12:06
Stray_*boots back into unbuntu*12:06
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ivathere are someone who knows how wake up root account12:06
iva??12:06
Orbolooking for some help with azureus12:06
Orboiva12:06
darklingiva: Wake up?12:06
cafuegoneighborlee: Howso? Why else would you need a -dev package?12:06
forcottonsjoerd, it works, thanks12:06
neighborleeiva, yes12:07
Orbowhy do you need root?12:07
Orbosudo -s12:07
darklingiva: Use sudo.12:07
neighborleeiva, do this at terminal: sudo passwd root12:07
neighborleeiva, and bam all set after you create the password <G>12:07
forcottonI think it would be better to have it /media/ipod on ubuntu ;)12:07
cafuegoneighborlee: (you could file a bug against the package that pulled in gcc)12:07
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ivathanks12:07
neighborleecafuego, will do thx12:07
Orbohelp wth azureus?12:07
Orboanyone?12:07
neighborleeiva, yw12:07
Stray_anyone got a walkthrough for network setup?12:07
cafuegoetherconf ?12:08
Stray_inc hardware setup?12:08
brc_greetings...anybody have any experence with getting all logitech mx500/700 buttons working? (specifically the thumb back/forward buttons)12:08
Gusto_change the pci port and I think it will detect the card during boot12:08
brc_I've found some howto's on google, but nothing ubuntu specific12:08
neighborleeStray_, if it exists its at : ubuntuguide.org ;-)12:08
OrboI unpacked the bz2 file from the azureus site, followed instructions, and placed the bin script in my /usr/bin directory12:08
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Orbobut when I go to run it through terminal, it start up then terminates12:09
brc_my mouse wheel worked automagically, but the thumb buttons seem to be acting as the middle button and rightclick (rather then back/forward...)12:09
cafuegobrc_: There will be google entries for button mappings.12:09
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Gusto_Stray_12:10
Stray_mm?12:10
Gusto_you can set the macadress12:10
Gusto_ifconfig eth0 hwaddr 00:00:00:00:0012:10
Gusto_to something12:10
Gusto_have never tried it12:10
cafuegobrc_: http://www.danhugo.com/content/detail/2912:11
Stray_host name lookup failure12:12
ivahey <neighborlee there are a chanel in spanish12:12
iva??12:12
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Gusto_Stray_: what did you type in?12:13
Stray_what you said12:13
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Stray_only made up mac12:13
ivahey12:13
Stray_wtf isnt it auto assigning mac anyway?12:13
Stray_any way i can uninstall and install it again?12:14
neighborleeiva, dont know ;(12:14
toresbeStray_: apt-get install --reinstall package12:14
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neighborleeiva, se hablo en espanol un poca <12:15
ivaok12:15
Stray_?12:15
nirwhere is the source of file:///media/cdrom0/doc/install/manual/en?12:15
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nirI want to improve part 8.4.112:16
ivaneighborlee how can i create a passwrd for root12:16
iva??12:16
Stray_so how do i totally remove ref to nic, then reinstate?12:16
Savanyone wanna tell me a good html/php editor that supports FTP.12:16
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neighborleehmm12:17
neighborleegoing to PM12:17
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cafuegoSav: Uh. vim and ftp? ;-)12:18
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Gusto_but does anyone know how to set up a working identd in ubuntu?12:24
cafuegoAnyone know offhand if the Hoary Xorg has evdev support?12:24
hhorsmanhey, im having server probs with hoary, cant connect from anything but localhost and lan address12:24
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jazzkhi!12:26
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jazzkhow can I know if I'm running xfree o xorg?12:26
forcottoncafuego, No12:26
Gwildorhoary or warty?12:27
Gwildorjazzk12:27
jazzkGwildor, hoary12:27
jazzkis there any command or file?12:27
HrdwrBoBjazzk: if you are running warty, you are running Xfree if you have updated to hoary you are using xorg12:27
Gwildori dont remember the command.....12:27
HrdwrBoBjazzk: dpkg --list|grep xorg12:27
TheFlowhow do I install Ogle on warty12:27
TheFlow?12:27
HrdwrBoBTheFlow: start synaptic12:28
HrdwrBoBsettings-> repositories12:28
HrdwrBoBenable universe12:28
HrdwrBoBthen update12:28
HrdwrBoBthen you can get the ogle packaghe12:28
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GwildorHrdweBob, do you get this?12:28
TheFlowand extract it to /12:28
TheFlow?12:28
jazzkmmm is it possible to install things in hoary livecd?12:28
GwildorHrdwrBoB, err how about this, i cant tab to auto complete your name....wtf12:28
swimhay does anyone have win32 codecs installed and working?12:29
HrdwrBoBTheFlow: no, it will download it and install it for you12:29
TheFlowokay thanks12:29
GwildorHrdwrBoB: hmm, it works now....nvm12:31
Quest-Masterswim: sudo apt-get install w32codecs12:32
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HazycrazyHello, newbie here12:33
swimQuest-Master, Ive been hoping that would work since installing ubuntu... its not in the universe, or multiuniverse repos12:34
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Quest-Masterswim: sudo apt-get install w32codecsall12:34
Quest-MasterOr, is it sudo apt-get install w32codecs-all12:34
Quest-Masterlol12:34
Quest-MasterI don't remember.12:34
swimQuest-Master, a search shows there is no w32 anything12:35
Quest-MasterWeird.12:35
jazzkxorg in hoary live-cd can get transparent windows?12:35
Quest-MasterIt worked perfectly fine for me12:35
HazycrazyI'm just going to go ahead and ask a question, I've installed Hoary from the array 3 release, and that seemed to complete successfully including the grub install, however when I reboot grub seems to be broken12:36
swimmaybe youve added a repo I dont have Quest-Master12:36
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Peterthe ubuntu lists an rpm driver i need - is there anyway to actually down the .deb file from it?12:36
HazycrazyWhen I say broken, it just says like "Grub bootloader 1.5" repeadtedly12:36
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vladsterThis is rediculous12:37
Quest-Masterswim: One second12:37
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Quest-Masterw32codecs <-- I am getting this when I search for it12:37
bitfoobonsaikitten is ridiculous12:38
vladster100kbs on a 3 mips line12:38
HrdwrBoBPeter: what or12:38
HrdwrBoBfor12:38
dirwolfdoes anyone know if there are logs for wireless cards attempting to connect to an access point12:38
swimQuest-Master, its got to be your sources.lst then... must have a repo I dont have12:38
Quest-Masterswim: Do you have marillat?12:38
hhorsmanhey, im having server probs with hoary, cant connect from anything but localhost and lan address12:38
PeterHrdwrBoB: ati drivers12:38
hhorsmanfor apache or ssh12:39
Quest-Masterswim: Search for how to add the Marillat repository in the Ubuntu wiki12:39
forcottonPeter, there is ati driver in hoary12:39
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Peterforcotton: but how does it perform for 3d acceleration?12:40
forcottonI can tell there is a difference.... quake runs now12:40
forcottonbut not as I expected12:40
Peterworse?12:40
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forcottonthere is some glitch in the picture12:41
forcottonand speed is not as good as under windows12:41
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Natrinahello, how can I share printers between Linux boxes? I've followed the FAQ entry (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FrequentlyAskedQuestions#networkprinter) but it doesn't explain on how to configure Linux clients12:42
Natrinahow wierd is that? Only windows boxes are recognized as possible clients...12:42
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Quest-MasterIs there a guide on how to send video playing in MPlayer to my TV instead of my monitor?12:44
Quest-Master(my TV is hooked up)12:44
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Rob|NycWhat do I need to use for Amd Athlon XP-M 2800+ Laptop ?12:47
Rob|Nyci386iso12:47
dirwolfdoes anyone know if there are logs for wireless cards and where they are?12:47
dirwolfI have a cicso wireless card that wont connect to my access point12:47
shocksyslog ?12:47
shockand make shure you have the right ssid - that fooled me once12:48
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dirwolfwell thats just it12:48
dirwolfI have the correct ssid and key but the card wont connect12:48
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dirwolfbut I dont know where to see what is happening12:49
smogger914can someone help me istall JDK12:49
dirwolfrun iwlist ap shows my access point12:49
Stray_guys!12:49
shocklook @ /var/log/syslog12:49
Stray_somethings changed..12:49
smogger914i am having trouble12:49
smogger914much trouble12:49
Stray_i can ping the router12:49
dohpazAre there any technical specs about the Gnoppix Live CD? i.e. kernel version, supported kernel modules, etc?12:49
dirwolfcool12:49
dirwolfthanks12:49
Stray_but12:49
dohpazoops, sorry; forgot to mention--for the PPC12:49
smogger914can someone help me install JDK12:50
Stray_if i try and connect to anything it tells me that it cant find the page12:50
Stray_so what does that mean?12:50
shock<dirwolf> - I usually open a gnome-terminal and run "tail -f /var/log/syslog"12:50
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smogger914some one please help me12:50
shockso I can see if something new appears12:50
shocksmogger - I have no experience in installing java :/12:50
shockwhats the problem?12:51
smogger914i cannot install it12:51
shockwell12:51
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smogger914i have the bin file and i dont know what to do with it12:51
shockso - what does it complain about?12:51
shockrun it12:51
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smogger914max@ubuntu:~ $ sh jdk-1_5_01-nb-4_0-bin-linux.bin12:51
smogger914jdk-1_5_01-nb-4_0-bin-linux.bin: jdk-1_5_01-nb-4_0-bin-linux.bin: No such file or directory12:51
smogger914but if i dir it it is there12:51
shockhm12:52
smogger914max@ubuntu:~ $ dir12:52
smogger914Desktop     jdk-1_5_0_01-nb-4_0-bin-linux.bin  perfect_gentleman.mp312:52
smogger914Gnome\ Mud  jre-1_5_0_01-linux-i586.bin        Word12:52
smogger914see12:52
shocktry chmod u+x  jdk-1_5_0_01-nb-4_0-bin-linux.bin12:52
TheFlowdoes anybody have any alternatives to suggest for Ogle?12:52
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shockcd ~/Desktop12:52
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shock./jdk-1_5_0_01-nb-4_0-bin-linux.bin12:52
TheFlowI am trying to install it and I'm not easily getting it to12:52
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smogger914is it supposed to say anything12:53
shock<TheFlow> does anybody have any alternatives to suggest for Ogle? <---- mplayer, xine, totem (newest)12:53
s1xcan someone plz explain me how can I use a shared printer (as it is explained in the FAQ) in another Linux box?12:53
bitfooogle?12:53
shockdvd player12:53
s1xbitfoo, with menus12:53
bitfoomplayer doesnt play dvds? :(12:54
shockslx: set up the CUPS-Server on the printer-box12:54
s1xbitfoo, no menus12:54
bitfoooh you can click the menus12:54
smogger914shock it doesn't say anyhitng12:54
TheFlowI can't get them to seem to work (totem)...12:54
shockand then connect to that ip/spoolname12:54
s1xshock, i need to configure the client, not the server12:54
bitfoomaybe wine+powerdvd :P12:54
shockoh12:54
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Stray_guys12:54
shockmompl12:54
s1xshock, i have configured the host, at least how it is explained in the faq12:54
TheFlowTotem cannot play this type of media (tmw_aspect_ratio_square_menu_item) because you do not have the appropriate plugins to handle it.12:54
TheFlowPlease install the necessary plugins and restart Totem to be able to play this media.12:54
Stray_how do i stop an apachie server?12:54
s1xshock, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FrequentlyAskedQuestions#networkprinter12:55
shockstray_ : /etc/init.d/apache stop12:55
TheFlowis there any way to get totem to play a DVD... (it works fine on Windows)12:55
shockslx: Desktop->Adminitration->Printing12:55
shockclick on new printer12:55
s1xshock, client is not ubuntu :( it's a debian12:55
swimany ubuntu-amd64 users? have you seen 64bit win codecs anywhere?12:55
shocker12:56
Stray_so wait12:56
Stray_ive done that12:56
Stray_now i can ping my router,12:56
shockdebian has gnome-printer-stuff, too12:56
shock;)12:56
Stray_but its telling me that i cant access it through website12:56
Stray_or anything else for that matter..12:56
Stray_any suggestions12:56
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TheFlowWhat plungins do I need for Totem to be able to play DVDs>12:56
smogger914can someone help me istall JDK12:56
s1xshock, ok, thx, i'll try to install that too12:56
shockk12:57
shock<TheFlow> What plungins do I need for Totem to be able to play DVDs> <--- are u running totem-gstreamer or totem-xine ?12:57
Br34chI've that weird problem again, whenever I unplug my power cord.. my laptop just immediately shuts off instead of using the battery from thereon.. someone gave me help.. some things to put in term.. it worked then. I guess it was only temporary.. because I've the same problem again. I don't remember if there was something external, but here is what he told me to do12:57
shocki chose totem-xine for the ease12:57
randabisthat reminds me...12:57
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shock<smogger914> can someone help me istall JDK <--- sorry, er,,, not saying anything is bad12:57
shockaint there just a plain old mirror of debs somewhere?12:58
TheFlow<shock>  are u running totem-gstreamer or totem-xine ? <---Totem gstreamer... the default that comes with warty12:58
Br34chroot@tosh:/home/khan # /etc/init.d/acpid start //  * Loading ACPI modules...                                               [ ok ]  //  * Starting Advanced Configuration and Power Interface daemon... // root@tosh:/home/khan # /etc/init.d/acpid start/etc/init.d/acpi-support start //  * Usage: /etc/init.d/acpid {start|stop|restart|reload|force-reload} // root@tosh:/home/khan # //12:58
smogger914so what do i do know12:58
brc_smogger914, look on the ubnutu wiki...there's a page about it12:58
brc_hangon12:58
shock<smogger914> can someone help me istall JDK - http://www.apt-get.org/ <--- how about looking here12:58
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Peteris there a rpm > deb converter?12:59
shock<TheFlow> - try the xine one12:59
shockPeter: alien12:59
TheFlowokay12:59
Peterhmm12:59
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brc_smogger914, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats                    see method 0  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java         or http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java1501:00
Petercan you move ubuntu from 64bit back down to 32bit01:00
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Rob|Nycanyone here using a amd athlon xp-m 2800+ laptop or alike01:01
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shockIm far away from that: powerbook g4 *g*01:01
brc_powerbook dual core g5 man 8)01:01
kakaltoheheh.01:01
brc_I wish they would hurry the heck up with the powerbook g4 rev e (probably 1.67GHz) so I can buy one01:02
|QuaD-wtf? dual core g5?01:02
|QuaD-powerbook?01:02
brc_patience young padawan01:03
|QuaD-lol01:03
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seth_slackwarehey01:03
shocknice brc01:03
brc_hello01:03
shock:D01:03
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seth_slackwareWhat is the app that will set up cups printing in gnome ?01:03
shock?01:04
brc_BWHAHHAHAHAHHAA...run on toilet paper in phoenix01:04
tritiumbrc_, http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/01/27/apple_site_powerbook_g5/01:04
shockgnome-cups-manager01:04
shock?01:04
Peterhow would i go abouts changing my ubuntu installation to a 32bit kernel?01:04
Petercan it be done?01:04
brc_I take anything from the register (other then BOFH) with a 50Lb bag of salt01:04
brc_http://www.thinksecret.com on the other hand...01:05
seth_slackwareshock: Thanks alot01:05
shocknp01:05
shockPeter: dunno01:05
shocktry it =)01:05
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Peterit isnt listing it in the packet manager.01:05
shockgo figure.... why would you want to go to 32bit anyways?01:06
brc_man I will be SO annoyed when the g5 PB comes out and I have my g401:06
Peterdrivers for video card are confusing me :>01:06
TheFlowhow do I get the xine totem video player?01:07
Br34chI've that weird problem again, whenever I unplug my power cord.. my laptop just immediately shuts off instead of using the battery from thereon.. someone gave me help.. some things to put in term.. it worked then. I guess it was only temporary.. because I've the same problem again. I don't remember if there was something external, but here is what he told me to do :s01:07
TheFlowwithout deinstalling ubuntu01:07
Br34chroot@tosh:/home/khan # /etc/init.d/acpid start //  * Loading ACPI modules... [ ok ]  //  * Starting Advanced Configuration and Power Interface daemon... // root@tosh:/home/khan # /etc/init.d/acpid start/etc/init.d/acpi-support start //  * Usage: /etc/init.d/acpid {start|stop|restart|reload|force-reload} // root@tosh:/home/khan # //01:08
tritiumTheFlow, see ubuntuguide in the topic01:08
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shock<brc_> <--- I wont.... as long as my g4 works smoothly01:08
shock*g*01:08
shock<TheFlow> apt-get install totem-xine01:08
shock?01:08
bitfooubuntu is 16bit?01:08
shockhrhr01:09
brc_bitfoo, no01:09
bitfoo:|01:09
shockubuntu is 2 bit!01:09
shock:)01:09
brc_the problem is I *need* a notebook *yesterday*, and I really want a mac...otherwise I'd wait...I'll probably try to sell it when the g5 is released (/announced)01:09
vladsterpasting and plugging deps01:09
bitfooso get a different notebook :|01:09
bitfooasus s5ne looks exactly like mac :|01:09
brc_I don't care how it looks on the outside :)01:10
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bitfooread reviews its pimp :|01:10
bitfooweighs like 2 pounds ;O01:10
bitfootons of battery life and sub $2k01:10
shock<brc_> - actually... for the same price you get a decent IBM....01:10
Petercan i install the intel x86 installation on my amd64?01:11
shockbut i like the mac, too01:11
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brc_shock, yup....same, or less....much less depending..01:11
bitfooreally01:11
brc_Peter, just guessing, but I'd guess yes01:11
bitfooibm for $1600?01:11
shockwell... here in germany powerbooks are around 2000 01:11
bitfoo:|01:12
bitfooi always wanted a toughbook01:12
shockso u get pretty damn good IBM or if you go no-name ......01:12
bitfoothe real toughbook though, the itronix ones01:12
bitfoothe ones you can run over with a car :|01:12
shockI dont intend to run over my laptop with a car01:12
brc_I wouldn't want the extra weight01:12
ephicwait01:12
ephicsomeone say they wanted a mac?01:12
ephicGROSSSSS01:12
brc_from the protective armor01:12
bitfoohttp://www.mobilepcmag.com/reviews/2004_05/AsusS5NE.html01:12
bitfooits not that much more :/01:13
bitfoomaybe 11 pounds :O01:13
kakaltohmm...01:13
brc_HA01:13
shocklol01:13
ephicdamn i want a notebook amd01:13
brc_I refuse to get anything heavier then 6.9LB's01:13
brc_:p01:13
bitfooyeah when i was shopping i had to move my limit up to that range; at first i was like "nothing over 4 pounds."01:13
bitfoobut they were all to underpowered :|01:13
shockyeah01:14
shockand underpowered stinks01:14
shock:P01:14
bitfoo:P01:14
ephici would want a heavier one.01:14
brc_no...depends on what you're gonna do with it01:14
bitfoothe panasonic toughbooks are durable and lighter01:14
mg_recently, i keep getting a "Failed to fetch <long package URL> ... Bad header line" when installing/upgrading packages. The weird thing is that the URL it says is bad is absolutely fine with Firefox.01:14
ephicya i would wnt it to last.01:14
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shockwell.... Laptops are commonly used by me in university, home, work.....01:14
bitfooyeah same :|01:15
ephici would use mine at work, outside,college..01:15
ephichome01:15
shockso I consider my powerbook max weight I'd accept01:15
brc_shock, what pb you got?01:15
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shockmotherboard     : PowerBook5,2 MacRISC3 Power Macintosh01:15
shockdetected as     : 287 (PowerBook G4 15")01:15
bitfoosince i got linux i havent taken it with me though, since i cant get wireless and audio to work correctly :|01:15
shockwell... the internal broadcom chip is a pain01:16
shockbut the audio?01:16
bitfoobroadcom/01:16
shockits like 100% native linux support01:16
bitfoo?01:16
shockyeah01:16
bitfoooh i dont have apple dude :|01:16
shockthe airport extreme01:16
bitfooi have asus :D01:16
shockoh ok01:16
shock:P01:16
brc_shock, you running ubuntu on that g4pb?01:17
shockand your audio wont work O_o01:17
shockyes01:17
brc_heh01:17
shockinstalled ... runs nice01:17
brc_dual booting?01:17
shockyep01:17
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bitfoowell i did get xmms to work01:17
shock2.6.9-ppc-sleep7 <--- somehow I stopped building kernels once this worked (suspend ...)01:17
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shock*g*01:17
bitfoobut everything else no :|01:17
shockhm01:17
shockextreme weirdness01:18
bitfoohttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1289101:18
bitfoo:/01:18
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brc_EWWWW01:18
bitfoooh i know what i was going to ask: in the wireless network settings in hoary, how do you put in the wep key?01:18
brc_the Asus S5NE doesn't have a built in cd drive01:18
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bitfooyeah thats why i didnt get that one :|01:19
brc_yeah I'd have to have an internal one01:19
shockbitfoo - have you tried mplayer with the sdl output?01:19
xhypnoHas anyone here had problems with ReiserFS01:19
xhypno????01:19
shock# ao = sdl:esd01:19
brc_xhypno, works for me...01:19
bitfoobrc_, dynamism.com has the best laptops :|01:20
bitfooand yes shock i tried that01:20
bitfoosays /dev/dsp is in use01:20
bitfoobut only esd is using it :/01:20
shockao=alsa - thats what my default is01:20
bitfoohmm01:21
HrdwrBoBbitfoo: if esd isn't working properly you will get that error with mplayer01:21
xhypnobrc_, It was working for close to 2 months, I tried to do an upgrade to Hoary and it started to have trouble reading a tree node after it started to write python2.3. I tried to reiserfschk to drive, to rebuild sb and rebuild tree, but it seems to have killed to whole partition. Any suggestions????01:21
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shockaudio.device.alsa_front_device:default <---- ~/.xine/config ?01:21
HrdwrBoBI ran it before when esd wasn't running and I got the same errror01:21
bitfooHrdwrBoB, what should i change01:21
HrdwrBoBbitfoo: try killall esd; esd01:22
HrdwrBoBbitfoo: try killall esd; esd & even01:22
bitfooesd & even?01:22
brc_xhypno, ugg :(   ... I don't really know what to tell you to try, I've never had to recover a reiser partition (so far)01:22
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shock"killall esd; esd &"01:22
HrdwrBoBthanks shock :)01:23
xhypnoAnyone else here recover a reiser partition yet???01:23
shockand esd even survives suspend/resume without a hassle, for me01:23
shock*g*01:23
shockno reiserfs here01:23
shock:)01:23
HrdwrBoBxhypno: what's wrong with it?01:23
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brc_HrdwrBoB, scroll up a bit...01:23
shocktr@area-01:/etc $ cat esound/esd.conf01:24
shock[esd] 01:24
shockauto_spawn=001:24
shockspawn_options=-terminate -nobeeps -as 501:24
shockspawn_wait_ms=10001:24
shock# default options are used in spawned and non-spawned mode01:24
xhypnoIt is read turning a read error at block 33306, this is the block that it was using to write python2.3. I then fsck, rebuild sb, rebuild tree and it seems to be dead01:24
shockdefault_options=01:24
shock@ bitfoo01:24
HrdwrBoBahh ok01:24
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shockmaybe something there?01:24
HrdwrBoBbrc_: cheers01:24
HrdwrBoBxhypno: looks like your drive is cactus01:24
HrdwrBoBxhypno: you'll have to run badblocks in some way01:25
HrdwrBoBI'm not sure of how to do it in reiserfs01:25
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xhypnoI think I do, but I don't think it is a physical prob with the block01:25
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bitfoohmm01:25
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HrdwrBoBxhypno: http://www.namesys.com/bad-block-handling.html01:26
bitfoomine looks exactly the same :O01:26
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bitfoo@ shock01:26
xhypnothanks Hrdwr01:26
quittehoary is broken at the moment?01:26
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Peteris it possible to 32bit kernel, without reformatting the entire 64bit system?01:27
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bitfookillall did nothing :|01:27
brc_Peter, sure01:27
erikhey, when I try to suspend my laptop it comes out of suspend immediately after entering it.  Anyone know how to fix that?01:27
quittei can't install anything that has some sort of depends on libbonoboui2-common.01:27
quitteversion conflict01:27
Peterbrc_: how? :)01:27
brc_Peter, use synaptic and search for kernel...fwiw I haven't (yet) changed my kernel in ubuntu with synaptic...but I've done it many times in debian with apt so I'd expect it to work01:29
brc_why do you want to downgrade?01:29
bitfoowhere is synaptic in hoary on that note o_O01:29
shockdesktop->administration01:29
bitfooi dont have it lol :|01:29
shockO_o01:29
bitfoomy hoary installation must be really screwed :|01:29
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brc_bitfoo, open a terminal, type   which synaptic01:30
shockmaybe it didnt finish?01:30
brc_it's a shame gnome doesn't have a menu editor yet :(01:30
bitfoobitfoo@horus:~ $ which synaptic01:30
bitfoobitfoo@horus:~ $01:30
bitfoo:|01:30
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bitfooi must apt-get it i think :O01:30
shockapt-get -f install ?01:30
Peterbrc_: im not seeing any kernels that arent AMD64.01:31
shockcause synaptic should be there on default ubuntu hoary01:31
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Locutus1976Can anyone recommend a cd burning program for burning mp3s to CD? I tried K3b, but it didn't work for me.01:31
SavANyone used gnomevfs and know how to add an ftp server ?  (thats what i figured i could do with it.01:31
brc_Peter, uhm....ok...I see the amd64 kernels and I'm on 32 bit...so I'm not sure why01:32
brc_then again I'm using universe and multiverse01:32
PeterLinux kernel image for version 2.6 on generic x86_64 systems01:32
Peterthats 64bit yeah?01:33
brc_yup01:33
brc_again, why do you want a kernel compiled for 32b?01:33
Peterso i can run cedega01:33
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brc_ahh01:34
erikyeah if anyone figures out how to run cedega on amd64 ubuntu I'd like a link to the howto :)01:34
eriki installed a hoary-ia32 chroot and it doesn't work01:34
erikcedega errors out01:34
brc_you might try adding universe I suppose...shouldn't have to though01:34
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Petermine works01:34
Peterbut ati drivers dont01:34
Peteror, i dont know how to install them correctly :)01:35
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Peter(more likely, thinking about it)01:38
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Peterwhats better for 3d, xorg or xfree?01:40
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brc_uh...01:41
erikxorg is just a newer version of xfree01:41
Peteroh :/01:41
erikfrom a non-legal standpoint01:41
geneo93hey Cube-ness why is my fps so slow now01:41
farruinnwhich would mean xorg is better, right? ...01:42
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erikright.01:42
brc_sure01:42
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eriki mean01:42
erik"probably"01:42
farruinn(to answer Peter's question anyway)01:42
eriknew versions are better more than 50% of the time I guess :p01:42
farruinnhehe, right =)01:42
farruinnnew, _stable_ versions =)01:42
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Baderseb128: et ensuite ?01:45
Baderoops01:45
Peteris there any form of graphics benchmark facility?01:47
shockglxgears ?01:47
shockglxinfo is informative, too - but not a benchmark01:47
shock*g*01:47
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jonohi all01:52
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shockhoi01:52
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nirI found that linux-source-2.6.8.1 cotains a powerpc/power4-smp config01:53
nirbut the kernel image is not shipped on the CD - why?01:54
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danielsnir: because the kernel images wouldn't all fit on a CD01:54
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nirbut creating that kernel yourself is the worst exprience for a new user01:55
nirits the best way to keep users from using ubuntu01:55
shockO_o01:55
HrdwrBoBum wtf?01:55
shockactually once that system becomes more commonly used....01:56
shockthat kernel might be included someday01:56
shock:)01:56
HrdwrBoBall two users are mortified01:56
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=== toresbe doesn't exactly picture POWER4 SMP systems COMMON
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xvershey..can anyone help me with a nic im having problems installing?01:56
toresbebut SMP macs, indeed01:56
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nirthat all pro G5 systems01:56
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toresbexvers: quite probably01:57
EfaistOsdoes someone use gnomemeeting ? where can i register to ils.seconix.com ?01:57
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xversi try to compile and it gives me this error: makefile:16 : *** Linux kernel source not found. Stop01:57
HrdwrBoBxvers: what network card01:58
toresbeEfaistOs: gnomemeeting does that for you01:58
xversits the one that comes integrated with the abit kv8 pro ...  vt612201:58
xversvia01:58
toresbexvers: apt-get install kernel-headers-`uname -r`01:59
xversthat'll help?01:59
xversthanks01:59
xvers..ill try it01:59
xversdoes that use the internet...because i cant access it02:00
shock?02:00
shocku are online =)02:00
shock*hint*02:00
xversim on another computer02:00
xversi have broadband.. cant access without nic02:00
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shockcr*p02:01
shock:/02:01
xversany other ideas? please02:01
shockthen i guess u have to download the kernel-headders dep to this computer02:02
shockcopy it to the other and then install it by dpkg -i k...dep02:02
xversthis one has windows02:02
shockso?02:02
Br34chuhm, nub question: At term, for something like "^C Cancel" . . . I press Ctrl + C or something or what?02:02
shockjup02:02
zenroxBr34ch,  ctrl+c02:02
xvershow do i download the kernel-headers?02:02
Br34chgot it, thank you02:03
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Dreamer3running apt-get update on a stock ubuntu cd results in "method http has died unexpectedly"... is this to be "expected"?02:03
shockno02:03
HrdwrBoBwell yes02:04
Dreamer3?02:04
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shock<xvers> how do i download the kernel-headers? <--- from the ubuntu-ftp ?02:04
shockftp://ftp.ubuntu.com/02:05
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xversthanks02:05
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shockmy router runs debian-sarge02:05
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=== Dreamer3 wonders if ubuntu is faster...
Dreamer3i'm using a bootable CD now and it sure _seems_ that way...02:06
swimis ubuntu-amd64 run "as 64bit" as debian-pure64 ?02:06
nirdpkg-buildpackage failed with power4-smp02:06
nirI get Assember messages:  Error: Unrecognized opcode: `movl'02:07
nirproabably in [drivers/net/ndiswrapper/misc_funcs.o] 02:08
nirmaybe its problem with altivec support that I added to the config?02:08
HrdwrBoBif your network is not up02:08
HrdwrBoBand you have selected to get packaghes from the net02:08
HrdwrBoBswim: yes02:08
HrdwrBoBamd64 is 64 bit02:08
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swimHrdwrBoB, than is there a difference between debian-amd64 and debian-pure64 ?02:09
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HrdwrBoBswim: I'm not 100% sure02:09
HrdwrBoBI think amd64 is lib32/lib64 system02:09
HrdwrBoBcould be wrong though02:10
danielsamd64 is lib and lib3202:10
HrdwrBoByeah02:10
swimthat would make sense, I wonder if 64bit system would run better with just pure64 ?02:10
HrdwrBoBnot really, but there's a whole lot less .. complications02:10
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HrdwrBoBbut also things that cause problems02:11
swimdoes running 32 as wells as 64 bit slow down the system sonme?02:11
HrdwrBoBlike flash and what have you02:11
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Orbohi, I could use a little help with cd sound?02:13
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Orboit plays fine when I insert a disc but there's no sound02:14
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ficusplanetDreamer3, it will.02:15
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Dreamer3any former debian-sarge now ubuntu uses?02:15
usualDreamer3, me...well debian unstable02:15
Br34chAlright . . . so I open Openoffice Writer.. and usually I am able to open it, it shows the splash screen.. loading . . . and it just.. disappears suddenly. At this time, I have various things opened.. and my ram is insultingly dangerous - is this why it just.. disappears?02:15
Dreamer3usual: i'm trying to gauge (subjectively) if it's faster02:16
HrdwrBoBDreamer3: I'm formerly debian02:16
usualdreamer, I wouldn't say faster.....you mean faster in what sense?02:16
swimHrdwrBoB, do you think that running 32 as wells as 64 bit slow down the system some?02:17
Dreamer3usual: programs open/run/respond, etc... the bootable CD feels faster than my system...02:17
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BrokenCodehowdy02:17
Br34chIf anyone answers my question.. I'll give them a cookie :)02:17
HrdwrBoBswim: not really but it's a pain in the butt to maintain02:17
usualDreamer3, I think it's snappy, but I just don't know if I would say faster, depends on how things are setup02:18
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Dreamer3usual: hmmmmm02:18
Dreamer3usual: my laptop is p3/900, looking for anyting to speed it up a bit02:18
farruinnBr34ch: can you try running oowriter in a terminal?02:18
usualDreamer3, slackware is very snappy02:18
swimHrdwrBoB, why isnt there a pure 64 ubuntu? do you think there will be eventually?02:18
Dreamer3usual: *laughs*02:19
HrdwrBoBum02:19
HrdwrBoBthere is02:19
Dreamer3usual: i'm too hooked on debian :)02:19
HrdwrBoB?02:19
Dreamer3usual: or else i'd try fedora, etc02:19
hikaru79What file has all of the tasks that are started up when Ubuntu boots?02:19
HrdwrBoBoh, heh, it's not02:19
swimHrdwrBoB, it's not pure64 ?02:20
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HrdwrBoBsorry, I'm a retard02:21
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farruinnneighborlee, hikaru79: rcconf is a nice tool that allows you to change that02:21
toothpickThe distrowatch release note sounds like the livecd comes with tools to make your own livecd based on ubuntu...am I reading this correctly?02:21
neighborleeHrdwrBoB, speaking of startup..are ubuntu devs consdiering a better install and gui startup screen more like what FC uses ?02:21
encKe`awww......im loving this distro02:21
neighborleefarruinn, ahhhhh ic...thanks you so much indeed for the heads up02:21
encKe`hello everyone02:21
HrdwrBoBneighborlee: it's in the pipeline02:21
neighborleeencKe`, we love it too02:21
neighborleeHrdwrBoB, okay very nice02:22
farruinnHrdwrBoB: for hoary even, no?02:22
HrdwrBoBneighborlee: graphical installis not likely for hoary02:22
neighborleeHrdwrBoB, very glad to hear that...very02:22
HrdwrBoBhowever graphical boot is quite possible02:22
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neighborleeHrdwrBoB, but for upcoming anyway right02:22
Orbocan anybody help me?02:22
HrdwrBoByes, it's still in the todo list02:22
neighborleeHrdwrBoB, kewl02:22
neighborleeexcellent even02:22
neighborleeHrdwrBoB, I wonder if they are considering anaconda?02:23
HrdwrBoBno.02:23
neighborleeOrbo, whats up02:23
HrdwrBoBanaconda is not even a vague possibility02:23
jdubwe did consider anaconda02:23
Orboneighborlee: how do get cd audio working?02:23
neighborleehmm why not I wonder..its free02:23
Orbocd's play fine02:23
neighborleejdub: oh ok02:23
Orboxmms plays cda fine02:23
Orbobut with no sound02:24
SavMy screen goes black after a short wile idle, i'v checked screensaver perfs but its all on 2 hours. ANy ideas?02:24
neighborleeOrbo: hmmm...what card and is 'sound enabled' in your desktop settings area02:24
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farruinnjdub: any thoughts on having a graphical ui for a dvd install?02:24
neighborleeOrbo, computer > desktop preferences > sound : make sure its enabled02:24
usualis there an evolution-sharp package in hoary? something -cil02:25
Orboaudigy 202:25
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Orboi know that02:25
Orboit wasnt02:25
Orbolemme try again now02:25
mannamanWes is in DA HOUSE!!02:25
neighborleeOrbo: ohhh..yeah fairly new'ish card..i'm not sure it works yet actually ;(02:25
mannamanhello all02:25
neighborleeOrbo, ok02:25
neighborleemannaman, hi02:25
jdubfarruinn: there are sketchy plans.02:25
Orboneighborlee, nothing02:25
Orboall digital sound files work fine02:25
Orbomy cdrom is connected by an analog input02:26
Orbodo I need a digital cable?02:26
mannamanIm new to this chat thing, can anyone point me to the direction of a German chat?02:26
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mannamanguess now?02:26
mannamannot*02:26
farruinnmannaman: maybe #ubuntu-de?02:26
mannamanokioe thnx02:27
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kbrookshttp://www.ignition-project.com/node/view/34702:28
Orbodoes it matter that my cdrom is connected via analog input?02:28
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Orbodo I need a digital cable for sound to work?02:28
HrdwrBoBOrbo: tbh I would recommend using sound-juicer to rip the CD02:28
HrdwrBoBand then play the resulting files02:28
Orboive been doing that02:28
HrdwrBoBput the CD back in the case02:28
HrdwrBoBand on the shelf02:29
Orboits just annoying02:29
farruinnthe xmms plugins aren't working?02:29
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farruinncdread or whatever it is?02:29
Orbofarruinn, well xmms reads the cd perfectly fine02:30
Orbobut no sound comes out02:30
toothpickmannaman #kanotix ;) has plenty of german speakers02:30
neighborleeanyone else having trouble getting .mov files to play in firefox ?..the window starts ( I have vlc installed for mozilla) but it can't seem to play it ;(02:30
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thullyHi - anyone know of an affordable flash player that plays OGGs (iriver is too expensive compared to MP3 players)02:30
neighborleeI have mplayer-custom installed which mozplugger needs...that or maybe mplayer-custom wont work with mozplugger ?02:31
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hakdiplanethi02:33
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neighborleehakdiplanet, hi there02:34
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Br34chsorry farruinn , I missed that. Anyways . . . heh, I'm a nub, please be more detailed ;\02:34
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CinduxCan anyone breifly explain why celerons are bad ?02:37
drspinanyone suggest an EPOC emulator?02:37
jdodsoncindux: basically they are stripped down versions of pentiums.02:37
HrdwrBoBCindux: it's like a pentium 402:38
Cinduxhm02:38
HrdwrBoBwith all of the disadvantages02:38
HrdwrBoBand none of the advantages02:38
Cindux= /02:38
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HrdwrBoBexcept it's cheap02:38
Cinduxhm02:38
CinduxI dont do any gaming at all02:38
jdodsoncindux: right, there is no reason they make them, save they can offer them at a cheaper cost.02:38
Cinduxor anything that would basically run my "computer" at its max02:38
Cindux:P02:39
jdodsoncindux:  they perform worse than a pentium.02:39
olliehi all, I just did a dist-upgrade using hoary and now my video resolution has dropped significantly02:39
Cinduxwould you recommend it for me ?02:39
Petercan you install Ubuntu without burning it to CD?02:39
Cinduxi wouldnt use it for anything other than web design02:39
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Peterinstall off net02:39
jdodsoncindux: i would just go AMD, more bang for your (insert currency here)02:39
Cinduxso id be using GIMP,text editor & web browser02:39
Cinduxi dont need bang lol02:39
Cinduxi was looking at this barebone http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=8132&ViewDetailedSpecifications=1#systemfeature02:39
olliewhen I first boot the computer, it says for a while "cannot display this resolution", but if I switch to a console and let it be for a few, I can switch by to X and have like 640x480 (or something like that)02:40
Cinduxright now i run a P3 600mhz PC02:40
HrdwrBoBCindux: better off with a sempron02:40
Cinduxlink ?02:40
ollieit's been working just fine for a while02:40
Peterdoes ubuntu support network installation?02:40
olliealso, I can't view the "Screen Resolution" app -- it tries to open for a bit, then closes itself02:41
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ollieanyone have any tips, ideas, or suggestions on how to troubleshoot?02:41
tritiumsladen, am I going to hear back from you re: usplash?02:42
shockCRAP! evolution is totally *****02:42
shockand thunderbird is bugging now, too??02:42
Petercan i use apt-get to download a new kernel?02:42
toothpickThe distrowatch release note sounds like the livecd comes with tools to make your own livecd based on ubuntu...am I reading this correctly?02:42
tritiumPeter, yes02:42
neighborleeollie, my first thought is your video card shrug..but i'm no pro on such things...have any other issues with games or apps or.....02:42
Peteris there a site listing all the files avalible via apt get?02:43
jdubtoothpick: it doesn't come with tools, it is designed to help make custom livecds02:43
tritiumPeter, try using synaptic to browse02:43
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ollieneighborlee: it's been working just fine for quite some time, I did a dist-upgrade, now it doesn't02:43
Peterit isnt listing the kernel i want, tritium02:43
ollienot much of an upgrade ;-)02:43
tritiumPeter, if you have something specific in mind, you can use "apt-cache search" to search02:43
tritiumPeter, which one do you want?02:44
toothpickjdub, can you elaborate like one more sentence...not tools? but will make a custom live cd?02:44
Petermost recent x86 kernel02:44
neighborleeollie, hmm ic..no idea then as im using stock ubuntu02:44
shockcrap... its 3 o clock and i need to be uni @ 080002:44
shock*sigh*02:44
neighborleeollie, if no one here knows i'd consult one of the online forums02:44
ollieneighborlee: ok, thank you02:44
neighborleeollie, good luck <<02:44
tritiumollie, can you look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log for any error message, warnings, etc?02:45
shockif any ubuntu maintainer reads this quietly: "PLZ FIX EVOLUTION" *sniff*02:45
Petertritium: im currently using an amd64 kernel, and want to drop it back to the x86 kernel02:45
neighborleeshock, whats wrong with evo  for you02:45
jdubtoothpick: it doesn't come *with* tools, but we've designed it to be easily customisable. there are some docs on the wiki.02:45
neighborleeshock, i'm ran it and find it works fine but then your use may be different02:45
shock1. calendar wont save "malformed uri"02:45
toothpickjdub ok thanks.02:46
toothpickI'll go there.02:46
neighborleeI've lol02:46
shock2. mail shows all imap folders twice02:46
neighborleeshock, shrug yeah  ic..I use neither of those things 'atm'02:46
neighborleeshock, :(02:46
Br34chuhm..heh, another nub question: What exactly is the difference between command line and terminal? :x02:47
shockgreat and thunderbird hangs on startup02:47
neighborleeshock, either use other email app or consider I guess getting help at : irc.gnome.org | #evolution02:47
shockand balsa gives me BadAlloc02:47
neighborleeshock, odd..i've used thunderbird and didn't experience the hang ..shrug02:47
shockback to mutt for me02:47
shock=)02:47
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tritiumPeter, perhaps because of the architecture difference02:47
shockur not running powerpc are you?02:47
shock:)02:47
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Petertritium: oh02:48
ollietritium: a lot of warnings about mode clock XXX exceeds DDC max 140MHz02:48
Peterso it isnt possible/02:48
nirBr34ch, command line is a user interface type02:48
neighborleeshock, heh that would be a no ;-)02:48
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shock:)02:48
nirterminal is a device that uses command line inteface02:48
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tritiumshock, I don't think we're all experiencing those problems02:49
ollietritium: then something about an Extended BIOS functions failing02:49
shockwell02:49
Br34chnir: I'm sorry, I'm still confused.. :s02:49
shockI just hope its getting better02:49
Br34chnir: Any nub links that might explain and set down the basics?02:49
ollieand no /dev/apm_bios02:49
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Petertritium: if i got the name of the kernel and used apt get -- would it work?02:49
nirBr34ch, I don't remember any now, try Googling for those words02:50
shockoh  well - I'm off to sleep now02:50
shockc yas02:50
neighborleecu l8r02:50
tritiumPeter, I'm not too sure about i386 packages on amd64.  I don't think apt on one architecture can "see" packages on another architecture.02:50
Br34chnir: I have been doing that, didn't find any "nub FAQ's" and such, but I'll give it another shot. thanks02:50
josephus_http://www.ubuntuguide.org/02:50
tritiumPeter, but I've never tried anything like that02:50
Peteroh :/02:50
tritiumPeter, are all the kernel listed amd64 specific?02:51
SavIs there any "Mail Monitor" for panel that supports SSL?02:51
ollieconsidering things used to work fine, then just stopped, should I report a bug?  the bug reporting page says to check here before submitting a bug report.02:51
Peteryes02:51
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tritiumPeter, I think you'll have to download off an archive then, to get it02:52
Peterhmm02:52
Peterarchive?02:53
tritiumPeter, http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-meta/02:53
drspinollie: no - don't report a bug... it sounds like you just need to reconfigure X02:53
nirBr34ch, try this for example: http://www.tqnyc.org/tutorial/command_line/index.php?s=T02:54
tritiumollie, could you try manually entering your HorizSync and VertRefresh in /etc/X11/xorg.con ?02:54
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tritiumxorg.conf, that is02:54
drspintritium: ollie: yes02:54
drspindoe the dist upgrade copy the settings from XF86Config-4 file to the xorg.conf?02:55
Br34chnir: lol.. was just on that one, seems nice and comprehensive enough for me. thanks again02:55
olliedrspin: tritium: ok, I'll try that -- though it might be related to bug #586402:55
drspinwhat no link?? j/k02:56
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tritiumollie, ok02:57
EvolutionRchecking for X... no02:57
EvolutionRconfigure: error: X Window system libraries and header files are required02:57
EvolutionR What package I need to install?02:57
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drspinollie: that's a possibility --02:58
drspinollie: I wasn't being specific to your hardware yet ;)02:58
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crimsunEvolutionR: xlibs-dev for Warty02:59
tritiumEvolutionR, probably xlibs-dev or libx1102:59
tritium-dev02:59
tritiumcrimsun probably knows better than I02:59
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crimsunthat's correct, tritium03:00
tritium:)03:00
crimsunnot that I know better, but that those packages are correct :)03:00
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tritiumheh :)03:01
EvolutionRthanks guys!!!!!!!!103:01
theineI have to thank to all the Ubuntu developers as I don't think that using a computer can get any more pleasent than with Hoary on an IBM Thinkpad03:01
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theineIt's just fantastic03:01
crimsuntheine: just wait til hoary+1 hits ;)03:02
Quest-MasterWhat's the terminal command for deleting something?03:04
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theineQuest-Master: rm03:04
bitfooanyone here use hoary + wireless?03:04
Quest-Master:)03:04
tritiumbitfoo, yes03:04
theinebitfoo: I do03:04
bitfoohow do you put in the WEP key?03:04
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bitfoothe hex?03:04
Quest-MasterHow can I remove a folder then?03:04
bitfooor the pass or what03:05
tritiumbitfoo, in /etc/network/interfaces03:05
theineQuest-Master: rm -r03:05
bitfooi cant connect to my network anyway :|03:05
Quest-Master:D03:05
bitfoooh you cant do it in gnome?03:05
EvolutionRI've deleted some files on my home directory on Gnome 2.8 ubuntu...I dont see any recycle bin? is there any ? I dont want to waste hdd space!03:05
bitfooi tried password, s:password, and hex of password in network config :O03:05
stuNNedhello #ubuntu03:05
stuNNedthere is new hoary livecd release no?03:05
encKe`is the ICA usable in Terminal Services Client?03:05
Quest-MasterEvolutionR: trash:///03:05
theinebitfoo: i can do it in Gnome03:06
encKe`its greyed out03:06
EvolutionRokie thanks03:06
tritiumbitfoo, there's a gnome interface too03:06
bitfooyeah desktop > administration > networks03:06
theinebitfoo: just double click the network applet and configure...03:06
encKe`thx03:06
bitfooyeah but i mean i put in the network name03:07
bitfooand then the wep key03:07
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bitfooand cant connect :|03:07
bitfoohow do you put in the wep key, in hex?03:07
bitfooaaa-aaa-aaa?03:07
EvolutionR<Quest-Master>: where? type in terminal?03:07
Dreamer3hmmmmmmmm03:07
theinebitfoo: hmmm, actually i never have to use a wep key, so i cannot really tell...03:08
bitfoothe help is broken on that menu which is why i ask03:08
Quest-MasterEvolutionR: In the address bar in Nautilus03:08
tritiumbitfoo, the format should be the same as in iwconfig.  try the iwconfig man page03:08
EvolutionRokie03:08
toothpicktheine...and how fast a thinkpad?03:08
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theinetoothpivk: well it's certainly fast enough plus it still supports APM which makes it so very nice to use under Linux03:09
bitfoowhat does  prepend  or  append  [index]  mean03:09
EvolutionRQuest-Master: I like to create a shortcut/ launcher for the "Trash" on my desktop. Where's the bin located at?03:09
tritiumtheine, what about ACPI?03:09
neighborleetheine, rad i'm glad you like ubuntu...me too <wink>03:09
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theinetritium: for some reason ACPU consumes a lot more battery in stand-by03:10
theineACPI03:10
tritiumbitfoo, prepend means to put it in front of, append means to put it at the end03:10
encKe`neighborlee, do you know if ICA protocol is usable in Terminal Services Client?03:10
tritiumtheine, I see03:11
theineneighborlee: if you ask me, Ubuntu is state of the art right now03:11
bitfoorofl i know that03:11
bitfoowtf is [index]  i mean :|03:11
encKe`it is nice03:11
talibkwelican anyone help me to install Ubuntu03:12
EvolutionRI like to create a shortcut/ launcher for the "Trash" on my desktop. Where's the bin located at? How?03:12
EvolutionRtalibweli: install ubuntu ? u have the iso downloaded?03:12
tritiumbitfoo, when you have several keys, you specify which one to use03:13
beetlebumhi all, i;m running Hoary and in the last hour i've had 3 hard crashes(everything freezes up, and i have to switch off the machine). how can i help debug these?03:13
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talibkweliwell i have the cd from shipit03:13
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talibkwelibut i have Fc3 already installed03:13
talibkwelii want to dual boot03:13
Quest-MasterEvolutionR: Right-click somewhere on your panel, click Add to Panel and add a Trash Applet03:13
Quest-MasterThen you can click on it and go to your Trash Bin whenever you want03:13
Cinduxwoohoo03:14
Cinduxeveryone cheer for me03:14
Cinduxgoing from a 600mhz pc to 2.4ghz / 256mb ram :d03:14
EvolutionRohhh quite easy03:15
beetlebumany ubuntu devs/bug fixers here? where can i go for info on system crashes?03:15
Cinduxi've entered the gigahertz!03:15
bitfoowhats wierd is that all the wireless networks are reversed03:15
tritiumtalk about an upgrade03:15
Cinduxlol yeps03:15
bitfooie, the unencrypted appear encrypted and vice versa :|03:15
Cinduxonly gonna cost me 233$ canadian to03:15
bitfooor so the icons would lead you to believe :|03:15
Cinduxi dont game but it comes with onboard sound,lan & 64mb vidoe03:15
neighborleeencKe`, hmm out my league sorry :(03:16
neighborleetheine, yeah I love it myself ..03:16
EvolutionRthanks03:16
EvolutionRtalibweli: u still want the FC3 install? if not u can install ubuntu on it?03:16
tritiumbitfoo, I don't use essids.  The APs I access are open, but require vpn to get to anywhere03:16
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neighborleetheine, I think it is too...only thing 'missing' is easier working with files03:16
talibkweliyes i want to keep my fc3 install03:16
theinebeetlebum: maybe you can find some helpful information in /var/log03:17
bitfooi think i am just going to format, reinstall warty and immediately go to hoary before doing any packages :|03:17
bitfoodoing=installing03:17
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tritiumbitfoo, did you try the new Hoary live CD by chance?03:17
bitfooyes03:17
beetlebumtheine, ta, i'll have a look03:17
bitfooit worked fine03:17
neighborleetheine,nm I meant menus...03:17
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bitfoobut tritium, i did apt-get dist-upgrade instead of apt-get upgrade03:17
bitfootherein i think lies the problem :|03:17
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EvolutionRtalibweli: then u have to prepare another partition on your hard disk for the Ubuntun installation03:17
tritiumbitfoo, did you pay attention to what packages were removed?03:18
bitfootalib kweli is awesome :|03:18
bitfooi have no idea what was removed :|03:18
talibkweliyea he is03:18
bitfooif its automagic it should work :|03:18
tritiumit's not so automagic03:18
talibkweliso i can use fdisk or qtparted03:18
talibkwelito make the partition03:18
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EvolutionRtalibweli: okie as u like03:19
EvolutionRtalibweli: wat's ur problem then?03:19
tritiumbitfoo, don't use dist-upgrade03:19
talibkwelithats what i was wondering mainly03:19
bitfooyeah i think that is why my sound isn't working correctly and why i cant connect to wep networks :|03:19
bitfooi can connect fine to open :/03:19
theineneighborlee: ok, but that's not a major issue, that is not likely to be solved in the near future03:19
talibkweliwould i have to prepare a partitiion for ubuntu03:20
talibkwelior could i do it in the install03:20
talibkwelithats all03:20
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monoxidehi03:21
talibkweliso im looking forward to compare fc3 vs ubuntu03:21
EvolutionRtalibweli: u can try to partition on a partition magic / qparted / fdisk for easy partition on the ubuntu. If not u can straight away do it on the ubuntu!03:21
monoxideanyone here use SATA with ubutnu?03:21
bitfootalibkweli, why not try the livecd instead :|03:21
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monoxideim having troubles03:21
neighborleetheine, totally agreed03:22
EvolutionRtalibweli: FC3 is far away improvements than Ubuntu...still long way to go!03:22
talibkwelii can use the livecd with FC303:22
neighborleetheine, minor nuisance at best <wink>03:22
EvolutionRyes03:22
EvolutionRcertainly03:22
talibkweliok well ill give it a spin03:22
toresbegood night03:22
EvolutionRGood luck03:22
theineneighborlee: yeah, one does get a lttle bit spoiled :)03:22
monoxidecan anyone help me with using a sata drive with ubuntu?03:23
EvolutionRHow to install .deb files?03:23
tritiumEvolutionR, dpkg -i03:23
talibkwelievolutionR thanks03:23
EvolutionRtritium: thanks03:23
tritiumyep03:23
theineneighborlee: ...when using such a marvelous operating system03:23
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EvolutionRtalibweli: np!03:23
neighborleetheine, yuppers03:23
bitfoominor nuisances should still be fixed i think :|03:23
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bitfooif they are easy :|03:24
billytwowillyhi, I have been using rsync -avz to backup my stuff and it hasn't been deleting the old stuff in the mirror. If I wanted rsync to update /mnt/md0/chris to an exact copy of /home/chris how would I setup the command?03:24
neighborleewell one thing I do really NOT like atm..is how nautilus works..I utterly can't stand how it opens new windows for everything03:24
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tritiumneighborlee, change it03:24
neighborleeBUT...I know that can be remedied if only I remembered how LOL03:24
billytwowillyneighborlee, you can fix that somewhat in the configuration thing.03:24
monoxidei recently bought a new sata hdd, and i plugged it in, and on the first boot it worked fine. i partitioned it, made an fs on it, mounted it, moved stuuf onto it, but it in /etc/fstab, and now my comp wont boot03:25
billytwowillyI think it's called gconf03:25
neighborleeI know...trying-to-remember where03:25
neighborleewait..gconf03:25
neighborleelol yeah03:25
neighborleeone of the sections anyway...checking <<<03:25
tritiumneighborlee, you don't have to use gconf editor anymore03:25
billytwowilly"configuration editor"03:25
neighborleebillytwowilly, yup thats what I meant03:25
tritiumin nautilus window: Edit->Preferences->Behavior03:26
theineneighborlee: let me know if you find out as i forgot as well03:26
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tritiumunder "Behavior": check "Always open on browser windows"03:26
neighborleetritium, kewl ic it thx03:26
tritiumneighborlee, :)03:26
neighborleetritium, hmm I guess it changed since last ubuntu...I dont recall that being there before03:26
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bitfoois there new ubuntu install cd or just live03:26
neighborleeI think just live and install03:27
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tritiumbitfoo, there are daily builds of both03:27
bitfoohuh03:27
bitfooyou have link to hoary build install cd?03:27
neighborleetritium, life saver LOL03:27
tritiumneighborlee, better?03:27
theinetritium: yeah, that is better03:28
billytwowillyI swear, ubuntu must be quite well funded. Their servers never seem to be slow.03:28
tritiumtheine, good deal03:28
neighborleetritium, lol tons03:28
billytwowillythere are way more people in the chan than for mandrake, and they have had lots of problems with speed.03:28
Br34chThe founder is like.. a millionaire03:28
billytwowillybandwidth bills can add up quickly.. He must be spending 10-20 grand a month on bandwidth..03:29
bitfooi think there is only hoary livecd not install03:29
theinebillytwobilly: i for one gave up on any non-debian based distros...03:29
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tritiumbitfoo, there are daily builds of both03:30
billytwowillytheine, suse is nice, but not quite as nice as ubuntu.. well yast is nicer than the ubuntu config (or lack of config) app...03:30
bitfoothats fine but there arent isos of both03:30
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tritiumbitfoo, http://archive.ubuntu.com/cdimage/daily/20050127/03:30
bitfoo:|03:30
bitfooi guess im just dumb :|03:30
billytwowillywill hoary be out before april? If it is my student group will install it at our next installfest.03:31
tritiumno, you just hadn't found it yet03:31
LinuxJonesbillytwowilly, suse had been working on their gui config tools for like 5 years and they still blow03:31
danielsbillytwowilly: during april03:31
bitfooeww no 686 :/03:31
bitfoooh well03:31
billytwowillyapril 9ish is the installfest03:31
monoxidecan anyone help me with my new hard drive?03:31
tritiumbitfoo, grab -38603:31
bitfoowtf is an installfest o_O03:31
theinebillytwobilly: sure, they do a good job, but I fancy the Ubuntu approach of integrating the administration tools with Gnome a lot more03:31
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Dreamer3hmmmmmmmmmmmm03:31
bitfoook tritium03:31
billytwowillywe advertise all over the university to come down and we'll install linux for free.03:32
tritiuma bunch of people get together and install linux, and help each other with it03:32
toothpickhmm...so the hoary live cd is not like a knoppix that has a hdinstall with it?03:32
billytwowillyThen people come down and we install linux;)03:32
bitfooand sorry monoxide but i dont have sata :(03:32
billytwowillyit's a fairly straightforward idea;)03:32
bitfoowhich university :|03:32
bitfooduke?03:32
billytwowillyUniversity of Alberta03:32
bitfoowhat :/03:32
billytwowillyUp in Canada eh?;)03:32
bitfooDuke > *03:32
bitfoo:|03:32
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theinebillytwobilly: is that in Edmonton or in Calgary?03:33
tritiumbitfoo, don't start a university flame war now...03:33
LinuxJonesbillytwowilly, the guys who do the Quasar Accounting program are in Alberta03:33
theineor neither?03:33
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billytwowillyIn Edmonton.03:33
billytwowillyheh, to quote fark.com "duke sucks";)03:34
theinebillytwobilly: Go Oilers I guess?03:34
billytwowillyheh, when they're playing;)03:34
froustI think I might come down for that installfest.03:34
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theineme too03:35
billytwowillystupid centrino and not having any good nvidia card based solutions for less than 3 grand..03:35
theinebillytwobilly: talk to me, the build in ate card is the only thing i hate about about my laptop03:36
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billytwowillytheine, mobility radeon 9700 w/128 MB?03:36
danielsduke it out in #ati or #nvidia if you care, but it's offtopic here03:36
theinebillytwobilly: 9000 M903:37
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Br34chumm.. what's the bash for taking ss?03:37
billytwowillythat has opensource drivers doesn't it?03:37
billytwowillytheine ^03:37
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theinedaniels: i'm desperately sorry ...03:37
billytwowillydaniels, Talking about problems with ati cards under ubuntu is off topic?03:37
darmoudoes anyone know how to get ubuntu to autmount cds?03:38
toothpickDoes the new livecd have a hdinstall?03:38
jdubtoothpick: no03:38
toothpickok thanks.03:38
danielsbillytwowilly: i've seen about a hojillion ati sux no nvidia am teh suck screw you flamewars in here, and honestly don't care for them03:38
tritiumdarmou, "Removable Media" capplet03:38
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theinedaniels: well, speak for yourself i would say03:39
darmouthanks tritium03:39
theineas it does suck for sure03:39
tritiumdarmou, sure, did you find it?03:39
darmouurm where is it?03:39
bitfoodaniels, that argument matters on windows systems only03:39
bitfoonot linux03:39
tritiumdarmou, under preferences03:39
bitfoothe number of games available on linux makes your choice of video card pretty inconsequential :/03:40
tritiumI think on Warty it's Computer->Preferences03:40
tritiumcan't remember03:40
darmouThe "hald" service is required but not currently running.03:40
billytwowillytheine, Doesn't anything below 9200 have opensource drivers sponsored by the weather channel?03:40
godsmokebitfoo: not if you do other graphics-intensive stuff -- like video editing or 3d modeling/rendering03:40
tritiummaybe I should install Warty using qemu on my Hoary machine03:40
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bitfootrue, i hadnt thought about that03:40
LinuxJonesnight all03:41
bitfoobut then again you shouldnt buy a gaming card for those types of projects03:41
godsmokeI do03:41
bitfooyou should buy a firegl or somehting :|03:41
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godsmokeno03:41
godsmokeati support on linux is nothing I would touch03:41
theinebillytwobilly: yes! but they aren't that great i tell you03:41
bitfooworks good for me :/03:41
godsmokeI am building my new workstation with two nvidia geforce 6 6800 Ultras03:41
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godsmokebasically, some of the best cards on the market03:41
bitfoowhy :O03:41
godsmokebecause I handle some heavy 3d modeling/rendering03:42
theinebillytwobilly: in term sof performnce i should add03:42
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bitfooi think you would be better off with a different card than SLI from nvidia03:42
godsmokeit's not SLI03:42
bitfoobut thats just me :|03:42
godsmokeSLI only allows one monitor output03:42
godsmokeI need 403:42
godsmokeso -- I'm not using them for SLI03:42
billytwowillytheine, with the ati drivers I only get maybe 1500 FPS with glxgears..03:42
danielsguys, #ubuntu-graphicsflamewars, please03:43
bitfooahh i see03:43
godsmokedaniels: please educate yourself -- we were not arguing anything03:43
godsmokeI was telling bitfoo the reasoning -- that's all -- take a pill03:43
danielsgodsmoke: #ubuntu-graphicsdiscussions, then03:43
danielsit's not on topic heree03:43
tritiumpeople, daniels brings us the X.org packages.  some respect and thanks might be nice03:43
bitfoo:|03:43
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danielsgodsmoke: i've seen a lot of these discussions, and they descend into useless flamewars.  that's the entire reason why the notice in /topic is there.03:43
Local_manthanks03:44
godsmokewhat he does has nothing to do with the respect he deserves in an unrelated discussion03:44
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Local_manwhat advantages does the Debian kernel bring?03:44
theinebillytwobilly: glxgears is very unreliable i think, what matters to me is that i can't run doom 303:44
tritiumgodsmoke, respect is the code of conduct for this channel, regardless03:44
godsmoketritium: I plan to03:45
bitfoowhats your gfx card03:45
bitfoodoom3 has pretty high reqs03:45
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theinebitfoo: i know, but i think it generally blows under linux with an ATI card03:46
Local_manis ubuntu going to provide Hoary as freeCD's?03:46
bitfooof course it does03:46
bitfoolinux is an afterthought for these developers03:46
tritiumslashdot story about the LiveCDs is out.  I wonder how the servers are handling the load03:47
bitfoowindows is the main market, and thats the plain and simple truth :|03:47
monoxidecan someone help me with my harddrive problems??03:47
danielsthe shipit program for sending out free CDs will continue for Hoary03:47
tritiummonoxide, I would, if I had an ounce of SATA experience, but I don't03:47
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neighborleeanyone else  not getting mozplugger to work in firefox ?...i get the window to load but then it just stops ..works fine in mozilla itself though ..i've tried making symlink from /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins to both /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox and ~/firefox1.0/plugins and even ~/.mozilla/plugins ,,,-- but nadda...anyone know fix for this ? ;-)))03:47
bitfooyeah it says on the page after feb all cds will be hoary :O03:48
theinebitfoo: well, i think ATI should in principle be able to provide drivers as goos as those from NVidia03:48
monoxidefirst it detected the drive as /dev/sda, then as /dev/hde, now i cant find it at all03:48
darmou_tritium what was the name of that applet again?03:48
tritium"Removable Media"03:49
Local_manis it a new drive?03:49
theinebitfoo: but of course in ``the real world''...03:49
tritiumdarmou, Removable Storage, rather03:49
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darmou_thanks03:49
theinebitfoo: bla bla bla...03:49
monoxideyes Local_man03:49
darmou_It appears not to be my hoary preferences:(03:49
budfoxis "apt-get distro-upgrade" a bad idea?03:50
bitfoolol03:50
bitfooyes :|03:50
bitfooin my experience03:50
tritiumbudfox, you should probably use apt-get upgrade so as not to remove packages unknowingly03:50
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tritiumdarmou, you don't have it under Desktop->Preferences?03:50
cowbudbudfox: it depends you can run it and look at what apt is going to do before you do it..03:50
budfoxthat sounds like a good idea03:51
cowbudbut if you have new versions of packages that require other new packages they won't be installed...03:51
cowbudthat is a situation when you would want to do it03:51
Local_mandoes warty install with a default firewall?03:51
randabisdistro-upgrade is not an apt operation03:51
darmou_nope there is Removable Storage but I think that is different03:51
cowbudusually doing a apt-get upgrade then  doing an apt-get dist-upgrade to see what else it wants to do is how I go03:51
EvolutionR libxi-dev depends on libx11-dev; however:03:51
EvolutionR  Package libx11-dev is not configured yet.03:51
EvolutionR How to configure?03:51
monoxidedist-upgrade is03:51
cowbudrandabis: dist-upgrade03:51
randabisI know... :p03:51
cowbudEvolutionR: apt-get -f install03:51
toothpickHas anyone tried to use a knoppix or morphix install script from the ubuntu live cd?03:52
tritiumcowbud, me too03:52
budfoxthanks...those are good tips03:52
duelikewill restart the computer03:53
tritiumcowbud, I use the "-u" switch too03:53
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EvolutionRcowbud: is there easy way to install this  xlibs-dev_4-1.3.0.dfsg.1-10_all.deb03:54
EvolutionR there is so manay dependecies need to install?03:54
monoxidemy hardrive is detected as /dev/hde, at least on the live cd, but it still wont mount it from fstab03:55
tritiumEvolutionR, why didn't you use apt-get ?03:55
EvolutionRtritium: how to use? by apt-get install xlibs-dev_4-1.3.0.dfsg.1-10_all.deb   ?03:56
tritiumEvolutionR, "sudo apt-get install xlibs-dev"03:56
monoxideit mounts properly on the live cd as well03:56
tritiummonoxide, did you look at the output of "dmesg" to see what the device is?03:56
EvolutionRE: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).03:57
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randabisdo what it says?03:57
monoxide/dev/hde103:57
EvolutionRapt-get -f install   only?03:57
randabisthat's what it said to do...03:57
EvolutionRok03:58
tritiummonoxide, is that how it's listed in fstab?03:58
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dudumm, is there a friendly application, or guide/howto on adding a second harddrive to fstab?03:58
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monoxideit says that /dev/hde is a 200GB hdd, which is correct03:58
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dudso that its accessible and read/writeable by users?03:59
monoxideyes03:59
cowbudhuh03:59
monoxidei can copy the fstab to here if you want03:59
tritiummonoxide, no, don't paste the whole thing03:59
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monoxidejust the /dev/hde ones then?04:01
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bitfooalrighty04:02
tritiummonoxide, if ubuntu is the only OS on the drive, it should be /dev/hde104:02
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bitfootime to wipe this drive and reinstall :|04:02
Ogozhello04:02
monoxide/dev/hde1     /var     ext2      defaults,errors=remount-ro 0     104:02
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tritiummonoxide, nope, not the one.  Where is "/" ?04:03
monoxidei have 3 hdd04:03
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kbrooksmonoxide, grep it.04:03
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tritiumjust grep it04:03
monoxide/dev/hda1     /       ext3       defaults,errors=remount-ro 0     104:03
kbrooksthats what we wanted04:04
monoxidethat one works though04:04
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tritiumokay, so you can't mount /dev/hde1?04:04
monoxideits just the hde partitions that wont mount04:04
monoxideor hde2,3,404:04
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monoxidebut when i first put the drive in it found it as /dev/sda04:05
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sridhow do I remove RAID, LVM, Enterprise volume management services from startup?04:05
mebaran151Hey04:05
mebaran151anybody here know about the problems of Evolution in AMD6404:05
mebaran151I keep getting a floating point error04:05
tritiummonoxide, I think you should search the forums and wiki for sata04:05
EvolutionRNo package 'gmodule-2.0' found , apt-get install gmodule04:05
EvolutionRReading Package Lists... Done04:05
EvolutionRBuilding Dependency Tree... Done04:05
EvolutionRE: Couldn't find package gmodule04:05
monoxidebut that seems to have changed for some reason on the live cd04:06
monoxideok tritium, il have a look04:06
mebaran151and also04:06
mebaran151why are all my menu items doubled04:06
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mebaran151it is not a big deal04:06
mebaran151but everything is listed twice04:06
mebaran151should I reinstall gnome panel or soemthing04:06
tritiumEvolutionR, what are you trying to install?04:06
mebaran151one meoment04:06
cowbudEvolutionR: apt-cache search  is your friend...04:06
rellikhas anyone here gotten mplayer to work?  after installing it and trying to run, it exited with "Illegal Instruction"...  so I got rid of /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf and now it crashes with Illegal Instruction "play_audio"04:06
newcomeri know it's trivial, but does the new milestone live cd have the proposed/new bootsplash?04:07
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tritiumnewcomer, no04:07
EvolutionRI'm trying to install xfmedia-0.4.0.104:07
cowbudrellik: what did you follow to get mplayer installed?04:07
froustwhat program does ubuntu use to browse digital cameras?04:07
newcomertritium, is there any progress in the bootsplash thing?04:08
froustlast time it just launched itself04:08
tritiumnewcomer, I don't know, really.  ask sladen04:08
EvolutionRtritium> I'm trying to install xfmedia-0.4.0.104:08
rellikcowbud, I just 'apt-get'ed it04:08
tritiumEvolutionR, from which repository?  I don't find that04:08
cowbudrellik: I didn't think they had it in the universe...04:08
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EvolutionRtritium> is on the cdrom04:09
rellikcowbud, well it may have come already installed actually...  either that or I just did apt-get04:09
tritiumEvolutionR, which one?04:09
rellikcowbud, I didn't do anything special to get it04:09
dudwhy doesnt this work?04:09
dud/dev/hdb1       /storage/unus   ext3    auto,rw,gid=1111,umask=707              0       004:09
EvolutionRtritium: it is on this month Linux Format CD04:10
EvolutionRu have or not?04:10
monoxidewhat is the address for the forums?04:10
EvolutionRCD 204:10
tritiumEvolutionR, from source?04:10
EvolutionRyeah of course tar.balls04:10
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tritiumof course?  not all software has to be installed from source04:11
EvolutionRso how to satisfy the thing? it need the gmodule?04:11
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tritiumEvolutionR, get the source, of course04:11
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tritiumgmodule is not available in ubuntu04:11
EvolutionRtritium: http://www.pastebin.com/234423 look at this04:12
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cowbudEvolutionR: you have to install gmodule frmo source..04:13
tritiumEvolutionR, I think you need libglib1.2-dev04:13
cowbudahh04:13
cowbudtritium: interesting04:13
tritiumotherwise I don't know what gmodule could be04:14
cowbudindeed04:14
cowbudyou are correct04:14
EvolutionR???04:14
cowbudEvolutionR: apt-get install libglib1.2-dev04:14
cowbudthen you will be good to go thanks to tritium04:14
EvolutionRcowbud: okie04:14
tritiumthanks, cowbud04:14
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mebaran151anyone having problems with Evolution04:14
tritiumEvolutionR, hold on04:14
EvolutionRcowbud how u know the I need the libglibl.2-dev???? which line04:14
mebaran151it is reporting for me a floating point error04:14
tritiumget libglib2.0-dev04:14
EvolutionRok04:15
EvolutionRtritium: which line shows that I need that?04:15
sridhow do I remove RAID, LVM, Enterprise volume management services from startup?04:15
tritiumEvolutionR, this is the only thing I find about gmodule: http://developer.gnome.org/doc/API/2.0/glib/glib-Dynamic-Loading-of-Modules.html04:15
cowbudEvolutionR: the gmodule :)04:15
cowbudyah my bad you wantt he 2.0 one..04:15
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EvolutionRoki04:16
EvolutionRso this get libglib2.0-dev?04:16
tritiumEvolutionR, that's the only think I can think of, yes04:16
cowbudapt-get install libglib2.0-dev04:16
cowbudyes04:16
cowbuddpkg -L libglib2.0-dev | grep gmodu04:16
cowbud /usr/lib/pkgconfig/gmodule-2.0.pc04:16
cowbudthere is more but04:16
cowbudyou get the idea04:16
tritiumcowbud, did you already have that installed?04:16
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tritiumor did you just install it?04:17
EvolutionRtritium: why ubuntu development apps not fully installed? unlike other distro04:17
tritiumEvolutionR, not everybody needs those libraries04:17
EvolutionRoic04:17
EvolutionR:)04:17
tritiumEvolutionR, even in other distributions (e.g. debian), those libraries are not installed04:17
danielsEvolutionR: having a hojillion things installed by default, or one cd -- your choice04:17
cowbudwhat are you compiling again?04:18
EvolutionRcowbud : who are u talking to?04:18
cowbudEvolutionR: you :)04:18
EvolutionRcompiling of wat04:19
EvolutionRthe gmodule?04:19
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EvolutionRno I just want to install this xfmedia thnig04:19
cowbudEvolutionR: you need the glib devel for something you are going to run make for (i.e. compiling)04:19
cowbudEvolutionR: you are installing it from source right?04:19
EvolutionRyeah04:19
cowbudyah that involves compiling04:19
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EvolutionROhh I guess my Ubuntu lacks this Compiling thing04:19
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tritiumEvolutionR, ?04:20
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cowbudyou will need to install gcc and all kinds of other devel tools..04:20
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santiagoHi04:21
HrdwrBoBchris_: yes, build-essential04:21
tritiumEvolutionR, "sudo apt-get install build-essential" to avoid lots of agony04:21
santiagowhat is the module for a  BCM94306 wireless network card ?04:21
HrdwrBoBwhich ships on the CD04:21
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EvolutionRtritium: thanks alot for that!!!!!!!!!!1 :P04:21
EvolutionRinstall buil essential...04:21
tritiumsure04:21
hams tritum, we need a "build-everything"04:21
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chris_anyone got captive-ntfs working with hoary?04:22
cowbudhams: that would be huge04:22
hamsand disk space is at a premium now days?04:22
tritiumhams, say goodbye to one install CD04:22
tritiumif you have a "build-everything"04:22
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cowbudtritium: do they have build-essential on one cd?04:23
hamstritum, i don't need it on the install CD, just as a download package04:23
cowbudon the one cd....04:23
tritiumcowbud, I thought HrdwrBoB said it was on it04:23
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tritiumI don't recall04:23
AughostHi04:24
ficusplanetjdub, You here?04:24
jdubyeah04:24
AughostCould anyone help me?04:24
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cowbudAughost: ask and people will try toi04:24
ficusplanetjdub, Is usplash going into hoary or hoary+1?04:24
jdubficusplanet: unclear atm.04:24
ficusplanetjdub, Alright, thanks.04:24
santiagodoes anyone knows how to make works a BCM94306 wireless network interface in ubuntu?04:25
Aughostok, well... whenever I try installing ubuntu, I get a cd-drive error, asks for drivers04:25
Aughostwhere should I get those?04:25
tritiumI owe my wife some time tonight.  I'll see you guys tomorrow.04:26
regeyaI don't suppose you have a more specific error message, do you, Aughost? :-/04:26
neighborleedumb question I fear but here goes.when I go to install a package in synaptic and it says:; 5:6.0.2.5....what the heck is the first '5' mean ???04:26
cowbudregeya: jesus you are a mind reader :)04:26
santiagoI installed ubuntu in a dell inspiron 700m but the wireless doesn't works04:26
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Aughostwell... also get prompted about PCMCIA, says something about dell laptops04:27
rellikanyone have any idea what might cause mplayer to not work?  I get the error "MPlayer interrupted by signal 4 in module: play_audio" for every file04:27
AughostI've got a dell desktop04:27
Aughostcould that be part of the problem?04:27
regeyaheh cowbud04:27
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regeya///////////////04:27
regeyayipe sorry04:27
EvolutionRtritium: apt-get install buil-essential still not satisfy the gmodule thing!04:27
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AughostThats ok04:28
EvolutionRapt-get install build-essential04:29
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EvolutionRReading Package Lists... Done04:29
EvolutionRBuilding Dependency Tree... Done04:29
EvolutionRThe following extra packages will be installed:04:29
EvolutionR  g++04:29
EvolutionRThe following NEW packages will be installed:04:29
EvolutionR  build-essential g++04:29
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EvolutionRDo you want to continue? [Y/n]  y04:29
robertjUbuntu is beating out Fedora in hits per day this month on distrowatch04:30
EvolutionRNo package 'gmodule-2.0' found04:30
EvolutionRconfigure: error: Library requirements (gmodule-2.0 >= 2.0.6) not met; consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them.04:30
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neighborleeconfigure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check < anyone know whats causing this compile error  ? ;-) ..thx ;-))04:31
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EvolutionRapt-get install glib-dev04:33
EvolutionRReading Package Lists... Done04:33
EvolutionRBuilding Dependency Tree... Done04:33
EvolutionRE: Couldn't find package glib-dev04:33
monoxidei cant find anything on the wiki04:35
monoxidei removed the references to /dev/hde in fstab so that it would boot, and now in the normal boot up, it says that the harddrive is /dev/sda04:35
drspinonly getting Hoary Live CD at 84 Kbps...04:36
drspinhow slow04:36
drspin:(04:36
regeyaoh ye poor dear04:36
Ex-Cyberneighborlee: is there a log file in the build directory? (config.log or configure.log, can't remember which is normal)04:36
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monoxideit beets 5kbs04:37
drspinEvolutionR: apt-get install glib-devel04:37
drspinmaybe?04:37
bitfooyo :|04:37
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regeyatrust me 84 Kbps beats 504:37
drspinmonoxide: but blows next to my usual 800k down for things of this nature...04:37
bitfooi recommend anyone wanting to use hoary install it clean, not upgrade :|04:37
bitfooit works way better :|04:37
regeya84 beats what I'm getting now04:37
robertjbahh 800k is for wimps ;)04:37
neighborleeEx-Cyber, yes but I have no idea to ascertain the error from it...its HUGE..i've  looked through it but find nothing relevant to help me04:37
EvolutionRapt-get install glib-devel04:37
EvolutionRReading Package Lists... Done04:37
EvolutionRBuilding Dependency Tree... Done04:37
EvolutionRE: Couldn't find package glib-devel04:37
neighborleeEx-Cyber, wth is 'failed sanity check ' anyway ? ;0))04:37
drspinrobertj: LOL -- keeps me happy04:38
robertjMy speed record is 6 megs/s ;)04:38
regeyaclean as in, erm, fresh install?  I'm not sure I like the sound of that...04:38
drspinEvolutionR: apt-cache search glib04:38
robertjactually I can get a good bit faster from a neighboring uni04:38
rellikhow do I uninstall,reinstall something that came with ubuntu?  (mplayer-custom)04:38
Ex-Cyberneighborlee: generally that means that it was tested with some basic input and bailed out for some reason04:38
drspinrobertj: from?04:38
EvolutionRlibdb1-compat - The Berkeley database routines [glibc 2.0/2.1 compatibility] 04:38
EvolutionRdbus-1 - simple interprocess messaging system04:38
EvolutionRdbus-glib-1 - simple interprocess messaging system (GLib-based shared library)04:38
EvolutionRlibglib2.0-0 - The GLib library of C routines04:38
EvolutionRlibglib2.0-data - Common files for GLib library04:38
EvolutionRlinux-kernel-headers - Linux Kernel Headers for development04:38
EvolutionRlibgnomecups1.0-1 - GNOME library for CUPS interaction04:38
EvolutionRlibsoup2.2-7 - an HTTP library implementation in C -- Shared library04:38
EvolutionRglibc-doc - GNU C Library: Documentation04:38
EvolutionRlibc6 - GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone data04:38
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drspinEvolutionR: use #flood04:38
neighborleeEx-Cyber, ah ok04:39
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drspinEvolutionR: paste it in #flood04:39
robertjdr: Ga Tech04:39
EvolutionRok04:39
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Ex-Cyberbitfoo: I didn't have much problem except for some junk with fglrx04:39
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robertjdrspin: I work at the University of Georgia and we have some pretty good connections04:39
bitfooi did04:39
bitfoo:|04:39
Ex-CyberI'd imagine a clean install is a bit more polished though04:39
EvolutionRdrspin the problem is the dependency on gmodule 2.004:39
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robertjIn the next few months we are supposed to be kicking up our I2 connection04:39
Ex-Cyberbitfoo: when did you try it, and what went wrong?04:40
EvolutionRdrspin: the problem is the dependency on gmodule 2.004:40
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bitfooi apt-get dist-upgraded04:40
bitfoothen apt-get upgraded04:40
drspinrobertj: when I was leeching bandwidth from the University I was getting prety damn fast speeds04:40
bitfoothings were screwy :/04:40
froustAnyone know how I can speed up file transfers in GAIM?04:40
drspinEvolutionR: what are you trying to do?04:40
robertjdrspin: I'm curious to see what this "Southern Light Rail" is capable of04:40
bitfoolike sound only worked in xmms after some fiddling, wirless networks that were unencrypted appeared encrypted and vice versa04:40
drspinfroust: #gaim or #wingaim04:40
bitfoowas just strange04:40
robertjand if I can get on it04:40
froustahh. *duh*04:40
drspinrobertj: heh I think it may be a while ;)04:41
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bitfoohey if i "apt-get install linux-686" do i have to do anything else to make sure everything works perfectly with it?04:41
EvolutionRdrspin: trying to install the source files from Xfmedia...tar04:41
bitfooare there other packages that are 386 and 686 based?04:41
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Ex-Cyberthe next ubuntu release would be 5.4, wouldn't it?04:42
drspinEvolutionR: what does it depend on?04:42
bitfooi'd like to be able to choose the filesystem if possible :|04:42
bitfooand maybe some other stuff :/04:42
robertjdrspin: maybe not, especially since I can shell into the webserver04:42
robertjI bet tunneling though could easily limit throughput and thrash the cpu though ;)04:42
jdubEx-Cyber: 5.04 :)04:43
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bitfoohey does the warty guide to multimedia on ubuntuforums work for hoary too :|04:43
bitfoolike are those the same packages :/04:43
drspinrobertj:I agree04:43
monoxideis there a way i can run a command on bootup?04:43
drspinrobertj: but I'd try it once or twice :)04:43
robertjat 3 am :)04:43
drspinmonoxide: what command?04:43
Ex-Cyberjdub: ah, right :)04:44
robertjThe only thing I can tell from reading the papers on it is that everything begins with the word Giga04:44
monoxidea mount command. fstab doesnt seem to be working properly for my sata drive04:44
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drspinrobertj: such a great work -- once step closer to Tera :)04:44
drspin*one04:44
hamsmonoxide, are your sata driver compiled into the kernel or loaded as a module?04:45
robertjdrspin: I don't know what good that would do me04:45
EvolutionRdrspin go to flood04:45
EvolutionRchannel04:45
monoxideno idea.04:45
robertjour throughput is pretty kickin on campus04:45
EvolutionR<drspin> I've pasted on the flood channel04:45
monoxidewhatever they are installed as by default04:45
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bitfooour throughput used to be way kickin04:45
bitfoothan operation bucanner crushed us :|04:46
monoxidei havnt recompiled the kernel though04:46
drspinEvolutionR: I'm still waiting for it to finish coming in...04:46
bitfoobuccaneer*04:46
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robertjOur on-campus connection is enough to saturate an 8 disk RAID 0 box04:47
monoxidehams?04:47
robertjI don't know where the limit is, but it aint on the network04:47
hamsmonoxide, i found that if sata_nv wasn't in the kernel for me the drive didn't mount properly04:47
EvolutionRdrpsin: finnish pasting04:47
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monoxidehow would i put that in the kernel?04:47
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hamsyou need the kernel source04:48
bitfoorobertj, are you updating from ubuntu site?04:48
drspinEvolutionR: you need the package that contain gmodule 2.004:48
robertjbitfoo: hehe, no04:48
bitfoobecause that is slow because it was just slashdotted :|04:48
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regeyahooray slashdotted04:49
Aughosthi04:49
EvolutionRdrspin: but how to get it?04:49
drspinEvolutionR: I don't know what it is...04:49
drspinEvolutionR: I'm looking now04:49
monoxidehams: how do i get the kernel source?04:49
EvolutionRokie04:49
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robertjhow much diskspace is needed to run a proper mirror?04:50
hamsmonoxide, first look in /etc/modules is your sata driver there?04:50
AughostI wrote the error message i got, when installing ubuntu04:50
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drspinEvolutionR: locate gmodule-2.0.pc04:50
refugeehello.04:50
drspinsee if it finds it04:50
EvolutionRok04:50
AughostDetect and mount cd-rom04:50
Aughostcould someone help me with that one?04:51
EvolutionRlocate gmodule-2.0.pc04:51
EvolutionRwarning: locate: could not open database: /var/lib/slocate/slocate.db: No such file or directory04:51
refugeeI am having a problem with having a menu. Using Hoary + KDE here04:51
monoxidethat folder isnt there...04:51
drspinEvolutionR: LOL - that won't work ;)04:51
hamsmodules is a file04:51
hamsvi /etc/modules04:51
EvolutionRLOL newbie!04:51
ushoozEvolutionR, that is the error the first time you run updatedb, Also you need to do it sudo updatedb04:51
EvolutionR:P04:51
refugeerefugee: anybody know of problems with the menu?04:52
refugeenever-mind04:52
Aughostcould anyone help me please?04:52
EvolutionRwhat's problem with menu is the taskbar start menu disappear?04:52
refugeeinstalling gnome-menus seems to have fixed the problem04:52
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EvolutionRdrspin : how to locate?04:53
monoxide`linuxhams, doesnt seem to be there04:53
drspinEvolutionR: I'm working on it... hang on -- is this a clean install?04:53
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monoxide`linuxpsmouse mousedev ide-cd ide-disk ide-generic lp apm nvidia04:53
EvolutionRdrspin: yeah....the ubuntu lacks alot of things man! :(04:54
hamsthat doesn't seem right...04:54
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monoxide`linuxi didnt install ubuntu with the sata drive in04:54
bitfooalso its slocate04:54
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hamshmm... ok maybe what i said wasn't the issue.04:54
drspinEvolutionR: what are you trying to install again?04:54
EvolutionRthe04:55
EvolutionRXfmedia ..........04:55
hamsif you do a mount <options>, you can mount the device correctly?04:55
monoxide`linuxyes04:55
EvolutionRa simple ,powerful media player04:55
bitfooo_O04:55
bitfoois it xfce based :|04:55
EvolutionR0_o04:55
EvolutionR:P04:55
monoxide`linuxbut for some reason when i boot off my hdd, and when i boot of the live cd it gives it 2 different /dev's04:55
bitfooo_004:55
bitfoo((( d[-_-] b )))04:56
monoxide`linuxand i think the livecd one is the right one04:56
hamswhat two?04:56
EvolutionRLOL04:56
monoxide`linuxhdd: /dev/sda, livecd: /dev/hde04:56
Aughostwhen I try installing I get a "No common CD-Rom Drive was detected", why?04:56
drspinEvolutionR: There's a Debian Package right on the front page of the website04:56
drspinEvolutionR: http://spuriousinterrupt.org/projects/xfmedia/index.php04:56
EvolutionRthanks man04:57
drspinEvolutionR: dpkg -i filenamehere.deb04:57
EvolutionRI was trying to install the source from the Linux Fomrat CD 204:57
hamsyour sure /dev/hde wasn't your CD/DVD drive?04:57
monoxide`linuxnope04:57
EvolutionRthanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!104:57
hamswhat's in your fstab now?04:57
monoxide`linux/dev/hda, /dev/hdb are hdd's, /dev/hdc, dev/hdd, are cd drives04:57
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hamsdid you put /dev/sdaX in there for the sata drive?04:58
drspinmonoxide`linux: did you add sdaX in your fstab?04:58
EvolutionRdrspin: I saw on that page binary: xfmedia.deb...but it bring to the other website? how to get the bin for it?04:59
drspinEvolutionR: check the websites to make sure that you're using up-to-date versions... you never know when you'll run across a better solution04:59
hamshow do you bringup the menu bar in a terminal that has none?05:00
ushoozI am going to compile that XFMedia never heard of it but it looks cool05:00
monoxide`linuxdrspin, i tried both sdax and hdex, neither worked05:00
EvolutionRdrspin: I know mine is old one, how to I get the new one?05:00
EvolutionRushooz: yeah try it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!05:00
Ex-Cyberhmm05:01
Ex-Cyberevery so often my screen blanks, anyone know what might be causing that apart from the cable being loose?05:01
hamsmonoxide`linux: the mount point is created on your root partition?05:01
Guardianngood evening everyone05:01
monoxide`linuxyes05:01
monoxide`linuxif i uncommented those lines and changed them to sda and did a mount -a it would work05:01
EvolutionRushooz: how to get the XFmedia binary package for debian???????????05:01
hamscan you paste just the /dev/sda line for us?05:02
monoxide`linux<monoxide`linux> #/dev/hde1       /var            ext2    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       105:02
monoxide`linux<monoxide`linux> #/dev/hde2       /usr            ext2    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       105:02
monoxide`linux<monoxide`linux> #/dev/hde3       /opt            ext2    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       105:02
monoxide`linux<monoxide`linux> #/dev/hde4       /pub            ext2    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       105:02
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monoxide`linuxit is hde there because i changed it in the livecd to what the livecd said that the drive was05:03
K-Richgreets05:03
EvolutionRushooz: u there05:03
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ushoozEvolutionR, yeah, working on compiling it and chating in GAIM05:03
AughostAlso got the following error message:"Linux kernel modules needed to drive some of your hardware are not available yet. Simple proceeding may take this modules available later. The unavailable modules, and the devices that need them are: tg3 (Broadcom Corporation netXtreme PCM5754 Gigabit ethernet), ide-mod(Linux IDE Driver), ide-probe-mod (linux IDE probe driver), ide-detect (Linux IDE detection), ide-floppy (Linux IDE floppy)05:04
hamsbut when you boot from disk it shows up as sda?05:04
monoxide`linuxyea05:04
drspinEvolutionR: http://www.os-works.com/view/debian/05:04
monoxide`linuxbut changing it to sda doesnt help05:04
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drspinEvolutionR: tell you how to add their repos05:04
linux-rulzhey, just wondering, is kaffeine available in universe or multiverse?05:04
EvolutionRushooz: ur compiling it...tell me if the things work ok?05:04
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EvolutionRdrspin: how?05:05
technodudewhat has changed in the latest version of the Ubuntu Live Cd?05:05
Aughostcould someone help me?05:05
technodudeHow come the release ntoes aren't posted on the Ubuntu website05:05
bitfooits a brand new version technodude05:05
bitfooits 5.04 vs 4.1005:06
bitfoo:|05:06
technodudeWhat has been updated besides the version 3?05:06
technodude*version #05:06
bitfooit uses x.org instead of xfree86 :|05:06
technodudeHas Gnome been updated?05:06
bitfoosome new stuff to gnome it looks like :|05:06
randabisand a lot of other things05:06
randabisyes05:06
randabisgnome is 2.9.4 presently05:06
farruinntechnodude: yes, and hoary will eventually ship with 2.1005:06
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technodudeI just d/l an iso this morning not knowing about the 5.04 release05:07
linux-rulzHow much longer until Gnome 2.10 is released?05:07
farruinnhoary comes out in april05:07
Dreamer3what's the best way to try the latest ubuntu?05:07
randabiswhen they finish it05:07
monoxide`linuxhams?05:07
Dreamer34.10 apt-get upgrades?05:07
linux-rulzlol, i know that, i mean, when is it scheduled to be released05:07
technodudedoes the live cd include all the packages of the standalone version?05:07
regeyaDreamer: with caution05:07
hamsi dunno... sounds like you did the right thing...05:07
K-Richi'm downloading the hoary iso right now myself... wanna see what to expect :)05:08
Dreamer3regeya: so, stay with 4.10?05:08
monoxide`linuxit says something along the lines that /dev/sda1 is not a valid block device05:08
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hamsbut after boot it works fine?05:08
monoxide`linuxyep05:09
linux-rulzDreamer3: not necessarily, a lot of people run it just fine. It is just a developer's release, if you want guaranteed stability, use 4.1005:09
technodudedoes the live cd include all packages from the distro or just some?05:09
Dreamer3linux-rulz: i want a faster distro than debian sarge :)05:09
farruinntechnodude: afaik it includes all of the packages that are installed by default05:09
technodudeusually live cds don't include all the packages05:09
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linux-rulzDreamer3: what do u mean a faster distro? faster development?05:10
farruinnbut I wouldn't say "all available" because that would fill many cd's05:10
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farruinntechnodude: it doesn't, however, double as an install. some people are confused by that05:10
technodudeok. Is there a place to d/l more official Ubuntu packages, because the aren't very many that come with the distro05:10
monoxide`linuxapt-get05:10
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farruinnor synaptic if you'd like a gui05:11
jdubtechnodude: there's heaps of other supported packages (see synaptic)05:11
technodudeI am used to Suse where lots of packages come on the dvd05:11
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linux-rulztechodude: enable universe and multiverse and then use apt-get05:11
hamsmonoxide`linux: i'm not sure where to go from there...05:11
linux-rulzor you can compile stuff05:11
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jdubtechnodude: and if you enable universe and multiverse, there are bucketloads of unsupported packages rebuilt for ubuntu05:11
monoxide`linuxwhat about that module stuff?05:11
drspintechnodude: I used Suse for about a year... too much of a pain in the 4$$05:11
technodudedo I have to use apt-get? I can't get my wireless network card to work under Linux so I have to d/l stuff from Windows XP05:11
technodudeIt is a shame05:11
monoxide`linuxmaybe the support is only there after its booted?05:11
hamsnone of those modules are sata drivers05:11
technodudeIt's the only reason I leave windows on my computer05:12
monoxide`linuxwell what is the sata module?05:12
jdubtechnodude: what kind of wifi card?05:12
linux-rulztechnodude: have you tried ndiswrapper?05:12
drspintechnodude: so run a hard line05:12
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Dreamer3linux-rulz: no, something that feels faster... the live CD of ubuntu felt pretty fast... but i'm not sure if that's just cause it didn't have all my usual stuff loaded05:12
sirukinneat05:12
hamsis have nvidia, so it's called sata_nv05:12
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linux-rulzDreamer3: might have to do with kernel 2.6 vs 2.405:12
technodudeIt is a Linksys Wireless-B WUSB11 v. 2.805:12
dhewg_tracker down?05:13
jdubtechnodude: that will probably work with ndiswrapper05:13
linux-rulzDreamer3: try installing a 2.6 kernel in Debian05:13
Dreamer3linux-rulz: nope, i run the latest 2.6 with con's interactive patches :)05:13
linux-rulzDreamer3: specs?05:13
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bitfoodreamer3 use xfce or some other wm :|05:13
Dreamer3linux-rulz: p3/900, 512mb, 18gig hd, ibm thinkpad t2205:13
drspinWOW package download is SOOOO slow...05:13
sirukinUbuntu > most05:13
bitfoodrspin: World Of Warcraft?05:14
drspin(space) /. effect I imagine05:14
technodudeyea, my next step is to try ndiswrapper. It will probably be hard since I am new to networking.05:14
monoxide`linuxok then, il try that05:14
monoxide`linuxbrb05:14
bitfoo:|05:14
technodudeSomebody told me that Prism2 based cards work well05:14
drspinbitfoo: no as in wow! that's amazing...05:14
linux-rulztechnodude: there is a good guide, ill track it down and give u the link05:14
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sirukinwhat I'd like to see is a config oriented system like apt-get05:14
ushooztechnodude, they do. I am using one05:14
Dreamer3bitfoo: gnome on the ubuntu boot CD felt faster... i wonder if it's the compile options they use05:14
technodudeOnly probablem is I wish there was a list somewhere of what cards had prism2 so I could find one for sale05:14
drspintechnodude: pricewatch05:15
predaeusWhat is the newest kernel version in the ubuntu tree for an amd64?05:15
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sirukini.e hardware detection and you can choose what others are using with the same hardware based on performance05:15
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bitfoomaybe05:15
technodudeI typed in prism2 and nothing came up on pricewatch05:15
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bitfooprism2 = chipset not manufccturer05:15
bitfoo:|05:15
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technodudehow do I find out which cards have a Prism2 based chipset05:16
ushooztechnodude, http://www.linux-wlan.org/docs/wlan_adapters.html.gz05:16
hamsif i have gnome terminal with no menu tab, is there a way to open the menu tab?05:16
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jdubhams: right click, turn on the menu again05:16
linux-rulztechnodude: try this out http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/phpwiki/index.php/Installation05:17
hamsthanks05:17
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linux-rulzthat should help u out05:17
regeyaright-click on the termina....thx jdub05:18
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linux-rulztechnodude: I'm not sure if ndiswrapper is available in the ubuntu repos05:18
Cranehello05:19
sirukinuniverse?05:19
jdubndiswrapper-utils is in main05:19
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monoxideok, i have the error here05:20
predaeusWe tried to get up the internet connection with an ADSL USB Modem. The Install script brought a mistake with usbcore. It's an amd64 system and the live CD for x86 runs on this machine and the same script. Any ideas where the problem is?05:20
monoxidefsck.ext2: No such file or directory while trying to open /dev/sda405:20
technodudecan you build a tar file on a Debian based distro?05:20
cafuegopredaeus: Is it a modem with a 3rd aprty driver?05:20
predaeusyes05:21
cafuegotechnodude: Of course. Just make SURE you use ./configure --prefix=/usr/local05:21
linux-rulztechnodude: yes, i do it all the time with things like mplayer and ffmpe05:21
predaeuscafuego, t's a Alcatel USB Speedtouch05:21
cowbudmonoxide: and sda4 is correct?05:21
linux-rulz*ffmpeg05:21
cafuegopredaeus: Probably a badly ported driver, then.05:21
hamsmonoxide: do you have RAID enabled for the SATA contoller?05:21
monoxideit is once it has booted...05:21
technodudek, thanks I'll try it05:21
cowbudahh then it is the long ass one before..05:21
cafuegopredaeus: Can you swap it over for an ethernet one?05:21
monoxidewhat?05:21
predaeuscafuego, then it wouldn't run under the x86 live cd also i think.05:22
hamsmonoxide: does your mobo support RAID for SATA devices?05:22
predaeuscafuego, no should and must work with usb05:22
monoxidei have no idea05:22
cafuegopredaeus: No, alcatel have provided a driver which doesn't work under 64bit kernels, it seems.05:22
hamshave you gone into the BIOS before?05:22
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monoxideyes05:22
sirukinimho ubuntu needs alot of work in the autoconfig department before it can meet the "for the desktop end user" crowd05:22
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cafuegosirukin: Like which parts?05:23
hamscan you gone into an look to see if RAID might be enabled on the SATA controller you're using...05:23
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Adrenalwhen does the new gnome come out?05:24
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monoxidewhere would i find that? it is detecting the sata drive in bios05:24
sirukinthe linmodem deal05:24
sirukinproprietary closed source graphics drivers05:24
tuxanyone try out the hoary live cd release ?05:24
cafuegosirukin: I needed to do exactly ZERO config for my nvidia card.05:25
hamsmonoxide: not sure, should probably be on menu down, so check each top-level menu05:25
cafuegosirukin: As for Linmodems, if they're not supported there's not much they can do.05:25
hamson -> one05:25
cafuegosirukin: maybe users need to be educated to refuse linmodem hardware. I do.05:25
sirukinit should give you an option when you boot05:26
sirukinheh05:26
cafuegoWhat option?05:26
sirukinmaybe05:26
sirukinbut the whole "shut it out" attitude is stupid.05:26
qcompsonfirewire is still tricky in ubuntu as well05:26
cafuego"This hardware is not supported by Linux. Go to this website and pay for a driver. [link] "05:26
cowbudare the gnome menus are a ubuntu thing or the new gnome thing i.e. Applications Places Desktop05:26
predaeuscafuego, is it possible to install ubuntu from the live CD?05:26
cafuegopredaeus: Not that I've noticed.05:26
Adrenalcowbud: new gnome05:27
tuxhttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/hoary/array-3.5-live/05:27
Adrenalwhen does it come out anyway?05:27
cowbudgood05:27
cafuegoAdrenal: When it's ready?05:27
tuxis that the final release of hoary for live cd ?05:27
jdubAdrenal: which?05:27
predaeuscafuego, ok thx05:27
jdubtux: no05:27
cafuegoActually, 2 weeks before it's ready seems to be the norm these days.05:27
tuxwhats array mean05:27
jdubAdrenal: www.gnome.org/start/2.9/05:27
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Adrenalta05:27
jdubtux: you gotta work that out :)05:27
jdubAdrenal: hoary preview comes out on the same day05:28
farruinnif gnome 2.10 isn't ready by hoary release time, will hoary wait?05:28
cafuegoMaybe Ubuntu should stick with Gnome 2.8 until things don't magically stop working after an evolution update.05:28
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Adrenalwhat about the backports?05:28
tux1. To place or dispose in order, as troops for battle; to05:28
tux      marshal.05:28
Adrenalwhen can i expect that?05:28
jdubcafuego: we track the devel branch so these things are found and fixed05:28
randori82this place is packed!05:28
monoxidethe closest thing i can see there is "OnChip Serial ATA" which is enabled05:28
jdubcafuego: otherwise we'd never be able to release with the latest gnome05:28
hamsdid you see RAID anywhere?05:29
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jdubcafuego: when ubuntu is released, gnome is stable05:29
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cafuegojdub: Does that mean Ubuntu won't ever be released? ;-)05:29
eyequeueisn't gnome in wart ystable?05:29
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jdubcafuego: we release the preview on the day of gnome's release, then we stabilise an extra month and then do the final ubuntu release05:29
jdubcafuego: ubuntu is released every six months, on the day. same as gnome.05:30
monoxidehams: nope05:30
jdubeyequeue: yes, it is.05:30
cafuegojdub: Grrhm.05:30
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hamshmm... perhaps jdub will have an idea?05:30
tuxdoes anyone know how they put the fig in the fig roll?05:30
eyequeuejdub:  maybe i misread cafuego05:30
Adrenaly do u need to use?05:30
jdubeyequeue: he's talking about hoary05:30
Adrenaloh, the whole crashy thing05:30
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monoxidejdub: any ideas?05:31
cafuegotux: Transporters05:31
eyequeuejdub:  i figured development == unstable anyway :)05:31
jdubmonoxide: re?05:31
tuxwhat does the array mean in the hoary release ?05:31
monoxidejdub: my sata drive not mounting from /etc/fstab on bootup05:32
Ex-Cybertux: they don't put the fig in the fig roll, that's the way figs are grown05:32
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jdubtux: you have to work that out :)05:32
Ex-Cyberwhen you buy figs separately they're just derolled05:32
jdubmonoxide: is the driver loaded? is the device there? etc.05:32
tuxi've been to ubuntuguide.org - it dont mention jack shit05:33
monoxidethe device is there, both in bios and once it has started up05:33
hamsjdub, he can do a mounta05:33
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monoxideas for the driver, no idea, but i can mount it after it has finished booting05:33
hams... after he's booted05:33
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DAC1138so, once again, i have the error logs from X.org regarding my xserver issues. who do i turn them over to?05:35
farruinnerm, are you reporting a bug?05:36
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farruinnor requesting help? ....05:36
monoxideso jdub? any ideas what is wrong?05:38
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DAC1138well, i was in here a few days ago, and daniels told me to try the new hoary live cd to see if x.org works with my gfx card, which it doesnt. i came back, and reported the failure, and they wanted my to submit the logfiles so they could maybe work on a fix for it05:38
randabis-laptopneeds more butter05:38
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farruinnDAC1138: ah, you may want to talk to daniels then, but sounds to me like he wanted you to submit a bug report: bugzilla.ubuntu.com05:39
jdubDAC1138: file a bug, attach the logs05:39
farruinnor listen to jdub =)05:39
DAC1138submit a bug to ubuntu or x.org? its an X issue05:39
jdububuntu05:39
DAC1138alright, thanks05:39
farruinnno, thank you ;)05:40
Ex-Cyber_should a dist-upgrade be done in single-user mode?05:40
Ex-Cyber_or no X05:40
Ex-Cyber_or does it not really matter05:40
cowbudEx-Cyber_: no05:41
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cowbudit doesn't matter05:41
cowbudyou might not see all the changes until a reboot but blah05:41
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Ex-Cyber_cowbud: I assumed that much, just didn't know if random support processes might trample parts of the upgrade proces05:41
Ex-Cyber_s05:41
cowbudEx-Cyber_: nope05:41
jdubEx-Cyber_: every now and then it can happen05:42
cowbudnothing an apt-get -f install doesn't fix05:42
cowbudbut it rarely happens..05:42
jdubEx-Cyber_: for instance, firefox can do some astoundingly broken things if you upgrade it underneath05:42
jdubcowbud: unrelated05:42
cowbudahh you mean that05:42
jdubcowbud: he's asking about things breaking if upgraded while running05:42
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cowbudI thought oyu meant not finishing all the way..05:42
Ex-Cyber_jdub: what approach do you recommend to minimize problems? I think I did it single-user last time but now I don't remember05:43
jdubEx-Cyber_: don't bother, just be aware that you're upgrading05:43
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Ex-Cyber_okay05:44
Ex-Cyber_fair enough05:44
monoxidejdub: you didnt answer my question... do you have any ideas how to fix it?05:44
jdubmonoxide: not off the top of my head05:44
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jdubmonoxide: you need to provide more information, eg. pasting the fstab line, etc.05:45
monoxidei did before...05:45
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monoxide[15:04]  <monoxide`linux> <monoxide`linux> #/dev/hde1       /var            ext2    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       105:45
monoxide[15:04]  <monoxide`linux> <monoxide`linux> #/dev/hde2       /usr            ext2    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       105:45
monoxide[15:04]  <monoxide`linux> <monoxide`linux> #/dev/hde3       /opt            ext2    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       105:45
monoxide[15:04]  <monoxide`linux> <monoxide`linux> #/dev/hde4       /pub            ext2    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       105:45
randabis-laptopAHH05:45
DAC1138farruinn, do i just copy and past the entire logfiles to the text im submitting to them?05:46
monoxideexcept it should be /dev/sda (it is now)05:46
farruinnDAC1138: should be able to attach them05:46
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farruinnbut I think you might have to actually submit the bug first...05:46
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farruinnI think I've submitted all of 1 bugs which was actually a feature request ;-)05:47
xhypnohey room05:47
randabis-laptopI've submitted 405:47
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farruinnof course, this is probably a good thing since I'm running warty :D05:48
randabis-laptopone turned out to not be a bug...just something weird happened to my /etc/exports file05:48
DAC1138farruinn, maybe i do need to submit it first, i dont see an attach option05:48
monoxidethe error i am getting is: fsck.ext2: No such file or directory while trying to open /dev/sda405:48
cowbudmonoxide: when are you running that?05:48
monoxidethat is fstab, so bootup05:49
jdubmonoxide: now that's more useful -> that means the sda4 device doesn't exist yet05:49
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farruinnDAC1138: I'm pretty sure that's what you need to do, maybe someone can verify this?05:49
jdubmonoxide: have you added the sata module to /etc/modules?05:49
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monoxidewhich is?05:49
monoxidei added sata_nv05:49
jdubmonoxide: the file, /etc/modules05:49
jdubDAC1138: click new, type in your info, hit commit. go back to that bug and attach your files.05:50
hamsjdub, need doesn't know the name of the module...05:50
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monoxideyes, which module is it05:50
jdubmonoxide: what kind of sata hardware do you have?05:51
monoxideits a seagate 200GB sata drive running on an onboard sata chip05:51
jdubwhat's your mobo chipset?05:51
monoxidedont know, how do i check05:52
jdubtype lspci05:52
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xhypnoTime to try the newest Hoary Live cd. Later05:52
jdubmonoxide: there'll be a reference to ide, ata or scsi05:52
DAC1138man, submitting a bug is frusturating05:53
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DAC1138i hope someone sees this and actually tries to do something about the problem05:54
cowbudDAC1138: submit a bug about it ;)05:54
DAC1138a bug about bugs, lol05:54
monoxideits a via chipset, il paste in a sec05:54
ushoozjdub: are we going to be able to do a apt-get dist-upgrade to Hoary Hedgehog from warty?05:54
jdubushooz: but of course!05:54
jdubyou can do it right now if you want to test the devel branch with us05:55
ushoozare the sources some where on your website?05:55
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ushoozso I can add to my source.list05:55
jdubushooz: s/warty/hoary/ and you're done05:55
ushoozvery nice. Walking to my other machine to do it. Do not want to mess up my lappy05:56
jdubonly do it if you're comfortable with tracking the devel branch and know debian system swell05:56
monoxide`linux0000:00:0f.0 RAID bus controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VIA VT6420 SATA RAID Controller (rev 80)05:56
monoxide`linux0000:00:0f.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06)05:56
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DAC1138x crash again :-(05:56
ushoozno worries. Been linuxing since 97. I know my way around :)05:56
hamsmonoxide: dude .. RAID ... and you didn't see that in the bios?05:57
monoxide`linuxits not in the bios...05:57
jdubDAC1138: you need to attach the logs05:57
monoxide`linuxi swear it :S05:57
DAC1138i did attach the logs. bug was sent05:57
randabis-laptopso you need the via sata module I suppose05:57
jdubDAC1138: asking someone to mail you for them means extra work and less likely for your bug to be fixed05:57
ushoozI just rediscoved Ubuntu. Slacker at home and RHEL at work05:57
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Cinduxbla05:57
ushoozalso Sparc Solaris at work05:57
DAC1138oh, BTW, im not on ubuntu now, im on vector. im downloading and going to install the test ubuntu versions05:58
CinduxOo Solaris OS :P05:58
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tritiumushooz, just be careful with dist-upgrade removing packages.05:58
tritiumsometimes it's what you want, sometimes you don't want to let it05:58
DAC1138jdub, i attached them05:58
Cinduxis an Intel Celeron 2.4ghz actually 2.4ghz ?05:58
ushooztritium, not worried on that rig :)05:58
jdubmonoxide: add sata_via to /etc/modules05:58
tritiumushooz, cool then05:58
ushoozI have done it on Debian. Was not sure how close to the debian model Ubuntu was going to be. :)05:59
hamscan you use SuperKaramba with gnome? or only kde?05:59
Cinduxworks with both05:59
cowbudit's Tali Winters damn it!05:59
Cinduxmy friends tried it worked fine06:00
regeyagdesklets is the superkaramba equiv, though it will work with gnome afaik06:00
cowbudmake that Talia06:00
monoxide`linuxok, added, just going to try it in a sec06:00
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Cinduxpff noone answer lol06:01
CinduxWhat's so bad about a celeron ?06:01
tritiumCindux, we told you earlier.06:01
Cinduxno no06:01
randabis-laptopthey are crippled pentiums06:01
ficusplanetHey everyone.  I finally got beagle/best running, but after just 1-2 minutes, beagled takes up over 600MB of RAM!  Is there any way to make this more sane?  I'd really like to be able to use it.06:01
Cinduxugg06:01
Cinduxlol06:01
CinduxI'm just asking do they still run as 2.4 ?06:01
cowbudficusplanet: yah same problem here06:01
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Cinduxat that frequency*06:02
cowbudficusplanet: other people have the issue too but I haven't seen a bug yet and I am too lazy :)06:02
jdubficusplanet: you need to help with development.06:02
cowbudI probably will file one soon06:02
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ficusplanetjdub, I'd love to, but I don't know C#.06:02
jdubficusplanet: so you'll have to wait06:02
jdubit's under active development06:02
jdubmemory usage is a very well known problem06:03
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tritiumficusplanet, did you build it yourself?06:03
ficusplanetjdub, I understand.  I did not want to complain; I was just wondering if what I was experiencing was normal or if I had done something wrong.  Yes, I built it myself.06:04
cowbudtritium: http://ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BeagleInstallHowto06:04
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jdub(there'll be a beagle deb in hoary universe tonight or over the weekend, btw)06:04
TownyAnyone installed the PowerPC version before?06:04
cowbudalthough last I checked dbus cvs is broken (last time == 2 days ago)06:04
tritiumcowbud, yes, thanks, I was just asking him06:04
cowbudjdub: sweet06:04
jdubTowny: yes06:04
ushoozmust be getting hammered with the Live CD. Going slow :)06:05
tritiumTowny, yep06:05
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cowbudushooz: getting the torrent?06:05
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Townydid it work okay on a G3 Powerbook?06:05
tritiumprobably the slashdot story has something to do with that06:05
ushoozcowbud, dist-upgrading a box to hoary06:05
hamsok, what is beagle?06:05
cowbudushooz: ahh06:05
cafuegoTowny: What G3 powerbook?06:05
ficusplanethams, http://www.gnome.org/projects/beagle/06:05
ushoozhams, really cool search util06:05
tritiumTowny, worked great on a G3 box for me.06:05
cafuegoTowny: Bronze or black keyboard?06:05
Townyblack06:06
cowbudhams think google search on steroids http://www.gnome.org/projects/beagle/ and nat.org/demos06:06
cafuegoTowny: Those are OldWorld, so the CD won't boot on them.06:06
Townyoh really? rats06:06
farruinncafuego: actually the cd will06:06
cafuegoTowny: You can get going with a small MacOS partition and using BootX06:06
cafuegofarruinn: on an *oldworld* mac?06:06
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randabis-laptopI wish streamtuner didn't break06:06
farruinncafuego: isn't booting it with bootX booting it?06:07
hamsi've never understood the fascination with search utils06:07
cowbudjdub: so how does ubuntu get around the inotify dep of beagle or does the ubuntu kernel already have that patch installed?06:07
cafuegofarruinn: No, BootX requires MacOS.06:07
TownyI'll just stick with os 9.2.206:07
jdubcowbud: had inotify for ages :)06:07
jdubcowbud: latest kernel has inotify 0.1806:07
cowbudjdub: ahh06:07
cafuegoTowny: I think work is underway on quik (bootloader) to be able to natively handle OldWorld macs too.06:07
cowbudjdub: what about networkmanager is that being worked in?06:07
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jdubcowbud: not for hoary06:08
farruinncafuego: you mean specifically for ubuntu?06:08
cafuegofarruinn: No, in general (and for Debian)06:08
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tritiumI wonder why the monitor_mode patch for orinoco_cs isn't applied06:09
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monoxideits working, but its saying that the sda mounts wherent cleanly unmounted, so its running a check on them at the moment06:09
monoxide:)06:09
cafuegotritium: Isn't in the kernel yet. You can fetch the 0.15 driver from savannah and it will work just dandy.06:09
farruinnTowny: check out http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/InstallOnOldWorldMacs06:09
ferrisis there an easy way to convert a .wav to a .mp3 ?06:09
tritiumcafuego, still not in the kernel?  It has been some time.06:09
jdubtritium: because you didn't file the bug about it06:09
kquamme94i love tor :)06:10
alainmferris: audacity is really good06:10
qcompsonso when hoary is officially released, will everyone running hoary now be already caught up, or are there still going to be slight package differences?06:10
kquamme94finally got it to work06:10
ushoozjdub, 2.6.8.1-4 has inotify?06:10
tritiumjdub, I think it's due in the kernel sometime soon.  Am I right cafuego?06:10
CinduxI gotta go to bed for my exams tomorrow everbody06:10
cafuegotritium: BLame Linus ;-)06:10
jdubqcompson: if you've got ubuntu-base and ubuntu-desktop installed, you'll be right06:10
cowbudI thought the latest orenco drivers incorporated monitor mode and were adhering to a monitor mode standard..06:10
Cinduxg'ntie06:10
cowbuderr orinoco haha orenco06:10
randabis-laptopqcompson we'll probably move on to bendy :p06:10
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randabis-laptopI know I probably will06:11
ferrisalainm, thanks06:11
cafuegocowbud: Not the ones in the vanilla 2.6.10 kernel06:11
jdubushooz: 2.6.10-1206:11
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monoxideIT WORKS!! :D06:11
ushoozah. Hoary :) then06:11
monoxidethanks jdub :)06:11
jdubushooz: install linux-686 or whatever's appropriate for your cpu06:11
jdubmonoxide: rockin'06:11
randabis-laptopyay u win06:11
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ushoozjdub, thanks for all the answers. You seem quite busy anwsering everyone06:12
qcompsonsweet06:12
jdubyeah, and no one's even asking hard questions yet ;)06:12
randabis-laptophow can I increase my bogomips? :p06:13
bur[n] ernew kernel makes my centrino work without rmmoding and re-modprobing :)  i love it06:13
cafuegorandabis-laptop: Add a spray can of nitrous oxide to the cpu.06:13
qcompsonanyone here run hoary and ut2004?06:13
randabis-laptopcafuego, but I'm le tired :(06:13
cafuegorandabis-laptop: Pfff.06:13
bur[n] ercafuego: didn't you used to be a #debian junkie?06:13
cafuegobur[n] er: Still there06:14
bur[n] er:)06:14
farruinncafuego: so they're still working on quik?06:14
tritiumbur[n] er, you're not the only one who remembers :)06:14
randabis-laptopI'll fire zee missles later06:14
cafuegofarruinn: Last time I heard from the debian quik maintainer, yes. (last week)06:14
bur[n] erwhat's quik?06:15
farruinncafuego: cool! I thought he had forsaken it =)06:15
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farruinnoldworld mac bootloader06:15
cafuegofarruinn: Might be the NEW maintainer then, simonrvn in #debian06:15
farruinncafuego: yes, it used to be Ethan Benson if my memory serves correctly06:15
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tritiumThese new liveCDs go to eleven!06:17
stuNNedeleven?06:18
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HrdwrBoByeah, it's more than 1006:18
tritiumstuNNed, stupid movie reference06:18
HrdwrBoBit's a joke from 'This is spinal tap'06:18
stuNNedoh heh06:19
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farruinnwill canonical be shipping free hoary cd's?06:19
HrdwrBoByes06:19
farruinnaweseome!06:20
stuNNedwhoa06:21
tritiumjdub, are we going to get to see any candidates for the new website design?06:21
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Dreamer335 hours left06:21
farruinnDreamer3: hey, be glad it's just one =)06:22
Dreamer3farruinn: *laughs and sighs*06:22
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Dreamer3farruinn: i need high speed06:22
farruinnat home I had just dialup.  Whenever I ran an apt-get upgrade I'd just let it run overnight it took so long06:23
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stuNNedregeya: w/vanilla ice cream?06:23
Dreamer3farruinn: you come over from debian or just ubuntu user?06:23
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stuNNedHrdwrBoB: anxious to try new livecd on proff's laptop at school we had probs before maybe bad warty livecd burn or something06:23
farruinndebian was my first linux06:23
regeyafarruinn, that's what I still do; there's a DSL provider on this road, but the phone company hasn't run new line yet06:23
HrdwrBoBcool06:24
regeyathey will Real Soon Now06:24
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regeyastuNNed, yum06:24
randabis-laptopsteal their cheerios until they run the line06:24
stuNNedregeya: poundage i don't need :)06:24
jkroon81Will Mono be included in the next release of Ubuntu?06:24
stuNNedjkroon81: good question, maybe in multiverse?06:24
tritiumI would think so, with the inclusion of beagle06:25
stuNNedoh ya06:25
stuNNedand muine hopefully06:25
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regeyahehe06:25
farruinnis mono a C# implementation for linux or something?06:25
jkroon81tritium, so will Beagle _will_ be invluded ?06:25
jdubstuNNed: just winners06:26
tritiumjkroon81, yes, tonight or tomorrow06:26
jdubjkroon81: both will be in universe, but not in main06:26
tritiumjdub, was that answer to my question?06:26
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stuNNedjdub: winners?06:26
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tritiumstuNNed, I think he was answering me06:26
drspinwhere does ubuntu put icons?06:27
cowbudshouldn't x-chat register a irc:// handler with gnome?06:27
jkroon81jdub, ok, works for me06:27
jdubtritium: yeas06:27
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stuNNedcowbud: ever try irssi?06:27
cowbudstuNNed: nope fine with x-chat :)06:27
farruinnirssi is pretty nice06:27
stuNNedcowbud: hehe :)06:27
cowbudstuNNed: why is irssi that much better?06:27
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cowbudmake that a why,06:27
cowbudyah I don't want text style..06:28
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cowbudI like the tabs..06:28
stuNNedahh, okiez cowbud06:28
cowbudjdub: that was kinda an indirect way of asking if a bug report would help in the matter or if someone had already said no to this since both ubuntu an debian do not do it (i.e. making x-chat register wtih gnome as a irc:// handler..)06:28
stuNNedcowbud: only adv really is can remote irc06:29
jdubcowbud: dunno06:29
cowbudstuNNed: ??06:29
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stuNNedcowbud: plus it's text mode which is nice i guess, something new for me really06:29
cowbudjdub ahh what the hell I am already on the page..06:29
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jdubcowbud: if you can come up with a patch or whatever to do it, that'd be swet.06:29
stuNNedcowbud: start an irssi session in screen, remotely ssh into the box, do a screen -x pty-blah and it resumes your irc session06:29
whiprushman, what's up with this slashdot ubuntu story06:30
cowbudhah I guess I could do the extra work :)06:30
stuNNedwhiprush: today?06:30
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K-RichOkay just looked at the hoary live CD... looks great... few questions though.... if i go ahead and upgrade... will it break anything (like my tweaked menus in Gnome, themes, config files, nvidia driver etc?)06:30
whiprushyeah the livecd announcement06:30
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stuNNedeh, sorry, openbox06:31
stuNNednot blackbox06:31
stuNNedsheesh :)06:31
drspinwhere can I find icons in ubuntu?06:31
farruinndrspin: you mean desktop icons?06:31
stuNNeddrspin: /usr/share/pixmaps ?06:31
whiprushtry /usr/share/pixmaps06:31
drspinthanks06:31
randabis-laptopK-Rich, nothing should break... I have 3 systems running hoary and their pretty solid06:31
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randabis-laptopthey're06:32
farruinnwill the new gnome menu system honor changes to the warty menu?06:32
jdubfarruinn: not likely06:32
K-Richrandabis-laptop: so it won't change my menus (except adding places and desktop) ?06:32
K-Richrandabis-laptop: what farruinn asked :P06:32
farruinnjdub: didn't think it would since the new ubuntu menu is vastly different...06:32
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randabis-laptopI can't say for certain, but it "shouldn't"06:32
jdubfarruinn: it's the infrastructure beneath that is vastly different06:33
jdubK-Rich: depends on what changes you're worried about06:33
farruinnright, I suppose that's what i meant, entirely differnt applet06:33
drspinanyone know how to change the font xfce4 uses?06:33
randabis-laptopyes06:33
randabis-laptopit's in the settings app06:33
K-Richjdub: thinks i've added etc.... will i need to get a new nvidia module etc06:33
jdubK-Rich: unlikely. modifying menus was unsupported.06:34
jdubfarruinn: not an entirely different applet06:34
randabis-laptopdrspin check the user interface applet06:34
farruinnheh, ok, so I know nothing :D06:34
tritiumK-Rich, some applets are gone, like wireless and inbox monitor06:34
randabis-laptopin the settings manager06:34
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stuNNedinbox monitor never worked here06:35
randabis-laptopI just wish it wasn't rocket science to change menus in hoary06:35
K-Richjdub: so basiclly all i need to do is change warty to hoary in sources.list and comment out security?06:35
K-Richtritium: is the trash one still there?06:35
jdubK-Rich: you don't have to comment out security06:35
tritiumK-Rich, yes06:35
randabis-laptopin the current state, one needs to be a brain surgeon to change hoary's menus...lol06:35
K-Richtritium: and the volume control.... those are the only ones i use regularly :)06:35
tritiumyep06:35
tritiumstill there06:36
K-Richrandabis-laptop: ummmm... what do you mean (just stoped me maybe)06:36
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tritiumI've been reading up on MOTU stuff.  Does every current ubuntu maintainer have a wiki page?06:37
farruinntritium: I've tried searching for them, but I don't think they do :(06:37
stuNNedtritium: what is MOTU stuffs?06:37
tritiumstuNNed, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/MOTU/06:37
randabis-laptopK-Rich, applications:/// doesn't work in nautilus in hoary06:38
stuNNedtritium: danke06:38
randabis-laptopso changing your menus is not simple06:38
K-Richrandabis-laptop: will it when it is released in April ?06:38
tritiumfarruinn, I think you're right06:38
randabis-laptopK-Rich, I don't know, I'm not the one to ask06:38
whiprushrandabis-laptop: moving to freedesktop.org menu's now will make editing menu tools easier to implement in the long run.06:39
randabis-laptopyeah06:39
randabis-laptopI'm not against the move at all06:39
randabis-laptopI'm just saying it's not easy to do at the moment06:39
regeyahm...tone controls on my sb live don't seem to work...*shrug*06:40
K-Richrandabis-laptop: i think i may have to stick with warty for now then... i use some prety obscure apps i've added to the menu for ease06:40
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randabis-laptopmeh, I just use gdesklets for that06:41
Dreamer3farruinn: and do you like ubuntu better than "Debian"?06:41
K-Richrandabis-laptop: yeah, i was trying to get gdesklets working on here, but it seems borked in Warty06:41
Dreamer3farruinn: i ask that realizing that ubuntu is devian derived06:41
stuNNedis there way command line to set the window manager?06:41
randabis-laptopI had it going in warty06:41
farruinnDreamer3: I like ubuntu for it's 6 month release schedule as opposed to Debian's 3 years =)06:42
randabis-laptopworks in hoary just fine as well06:42
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K-Richrandabis-laptop: i'll try it again here now then... was trying to get the start bar woirking (think yiou use it if i remember looks like the dock bar in OSX)06:43
Dreamer3farruinn: yeah, but i've been running testing forever, so i don't deal with a 3 year release cycle :)06:44
randabis-laptopyeah I use that on my main box06:44
tritiumfarruinn, there's no way I have experience like some of the MOTU candidates.  my wiki page of contributions would be very sad06:44
Dreamer3farruinn: i'm just looking for something "faster"06:44
Dreamer3farruinn: debian otb just feels a little slow lately...06:44
farruinnDreamer3: I _LOVE_ ubuntu, it's great, and it has apt06:44
K-RichDreamer3: sarge was slow, sid was speedier... but i've converted :) happily i might add06:44
randabis-laptop<3 ubuntu06:44
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farruinntritium: :/06:45
farruinnneither would mine, that's for sure06:45
tritiumsort of intimidating06:46
farruinntalk to ogra or one of the othe MOTU's, maybe you're more qualified than you think =)06:47
farruinnit wouldn't hurt to ask anyway06:47
tritiumI've talked a bit with a couple, actually.  have you?06:47
farruinnno, don't think I'm in that league06:47
whiprushstart reading the debian new maintainer's guide, and start practicing making packages.06:48
farruinnI was reading the debian maint-guide yesterday...06:48
K-Richrandabis-laptop: nope... it's broke in Warty... just tried again, when i click on any .display it gives an error06:48
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tritiumwhiprush, are you a candidate?06:48
whiprushI'm in the same boat as you.06:48
whiprushI'm on the list.06:48
tritiumgood for you06:48
tritiumthat's a better boat than I'm in, actually06:48
HrdwrBoBthe list.. the list.. oh never mind06:48
randabis-laptopK-Rich, weird...I just added them via command line and it would work06:48
whiprushjust keep reading and learning ...06:48
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K-Richrandabis-laptop: what command to load them ?06:49
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randabis-laptopI can't remember right now, there's a gdesklets howto on ubuntu forums with the command though06:49
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whiprushtritium: even if you end up sucking at it, there's always some work somewhere that needs to be done. Trying never hurts.06:50
tritiumwhiprush, I suppose you're right06:50
farruinnK-Rich: can't you just open the file in nautilus?06:50
randabis-laptophe said he gets an error when he does06:51
farruinntritium: and if you end up pissing everyone off just change your irc handle ;-)06:51
tritiumfarruinn, heh06:51
farruinnrandabis-laptop: I vaguely remember that happening to me, but I don't remember what I did...06:51
wezzer-umm, did I get this right06:52
wezzer-there is a live cd of hoary?06:52
tritiumwhiprush, you dind't put your irc nick on the candidate list06:52
randabis-laptopwell like I said, doing it via command line worked for me06:52
tritiumor does the wiki page not list you?06:52
randabis-laptopwezzer look at the channel topic06:52
stuNNedwezzer-: yep, just came out today, the milestone release, that is06:52
whiprushtritium: It's on my homepage, I'm JorgeOCastro06:52
tritiumOh, hi Jorge06:52
wezzer-oh! wonderful!06:52
whiprushheh, hello06:52
wezzer-I have to try that out as soon as I get to home06:53
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randabis-laptophttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/20050126.2/06:53
tritiumwhiprush, Michael Rimbert here06:53
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hamsis there a terminal that is true transparent?06:56
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bitfoodudes :|06:57
bitfooi gained 1000 fps going from 386 to 686 kernel :|06:57
cafuegoseriously, i KNOW where my car is06:57
bitfooaccording to glxgears :/06:57
tritiumbitfoo, holy smokes!06:57
stuNNedcafuego: lol06:57
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bitfooi know, its the crazy :|06:57
K-Richrandabis-laptop: looking for the howto now06:58
stuNNedbitfoo: seriously...06:58
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bitfooyeh seriously :|06:58
K-Richanyone else have issues with recording (mic) under ubuntu ?  i hear it through my speakers but will not record06:58
wm_eddieToday I made a simple kiosk with Ubuntu and a G306:58
bitfoodoesnt seem any faster but that is what glxgears is reporting :|06:58
wm_eddieThe plan is that it runs a script (while true; do  if mozilla; then mozilla done)06:59
cafuegowm_eddie: I hope you have a 'not' in there06:59
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wm_eddiedo I need one?07:00
cafuegowhile true { if (not mozilla) { mozillas } }07:00
wm_eddiewhy not mozilla?07:01
cafuegowm_eddie: Coz that would be what we know as a fork bomb07:01
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wm_eddie? no it says if mozilla returns 0 then run mozilla, otherwise if mozilla returns 0...07:02
tritiumbed time.07:02
stuNNedbitfoo: have you tried other benchmarks?07:02
farruinng'night tritium07:02
tritiumfarruinn, good night07:02
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stuNNednight treed07:03
stuNNedeh sorry treed07:03
wm_eddieI wonder if I could add a "Run X with this script" option in GDM.07:03
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bitfoostunned07:03
cafuegowm_eddie: yeah. 0 == false (not mozilla)07:03
bitfoono i havent :|07:03
stuNNedbitfoo: any other games/gl installed?07:04
wm_eddieahh...07:04
wm_eddiebut it works either way.07:04
stuNNedrunning 386 kenrel here07:05
rellikafter running mplayer (and having it crash) I lose my local-echo, so when I type I don't see what I am typing....  how do I get it back?07:05
whiprushreset07:05
wm_eddieIt seems to run real slow though, it worries me.07:05
whiprushrellik: er, type reset and hit enter07:05
wm_eddieand I wonder if there's a way I can turn off configuration editing in mozilla...07:05
rellikwhiprush, thanks07:05
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bitfoostunned nothing but the default gnome games :|07:10
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kleedracAnyone know how to get IPX working for Warcraft II BNE?07:14
farruinncafuego: I just built quik on my beige G3. I'd have to be insane to try it, but I think I might...07:14
Dreamer3hello, anyone?07:15
eyequeuewm_eddie:  google for mozilla and kiosk07:15
eyequeuewm_eddie:  i'm pretty sure i read something on that recently07:15
eyequeuehi07:16
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bitfoomake em say UHHHH07:17
wm_eddieoh cool.07:17
wm_eddiethanks07:17
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eyequeuenp07:25
wd40hi all, I have a create labs SB Live 24 Audigy LS soundcard which I'm having trouble with...  I think I need the snd-ca0106 module, but am having trouble compiling linux 2.6.11rc2, which supports it.  Any suggestions for ubuntu kernel compiling?07:26
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farruinnfirst of all, are you using kernel-source* or linux-source* package?07:28
farruinnyou probably want linux-source-*07:29
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wd40I believe I've tried both.  Linux-source is from kernel.org?  That was the last I tried.07:31
thriftIs there a command line based partitioning tool during the ubuntu install?07:31
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farruinnwd40: tbh I'm not entirely sure, but I think linux-source is what's used for building the ubuntu kernel images07:32
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LathiatBenZ|Laptop: hey07:33
BenZ|Laptophey07:33
BenZ|LaptopHow hard is it going to be to dual boot XP and Ubuntu on my dell?07:33
Lathiati do it on my inspiron 860007:33
Lathiateasy07:33
Lathiatjust install windows first07:33
Dreamer31BenZ|Laptop: delete xp :)07:33
BenZ|Laptopive got an 860007:33
LathiatBenZ|Laptop: haha no shit, how new?07:33
BenZ|Laptop3-4 months07:33
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Lathiatcool, i got mine a month ago07:34
BenZ|Laptopthe 1.7, 512mb, 8x dvd.07:34
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BenZ|Laptopwhat you pay?07:34
Lathiatpfft07:34
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Lathiat220007:34
BenZ|Laptopnice.07:34
Lathiatmm, $1k cash off :)07:34
wd40apt-cache search linux-source yields nothing, but apt-cache search kernel-source yields a bunch of stuff.  There is a 2.6.10 kernel in fact, which works, but it doesn't support the sound card, and 2.6.11 appears to.07:34
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LathiatBenZ|Laptop: just install windows in a partition (i got 10GB on the end of my 60GB)07:34
Dreamer31wd40: download the source from kernel.org07:34
jdubwd40: you're on warty or hoary?07:35
Dreamer31wd40: and read the kernel compiling how-to... though it might be helpful to find a .config from ubuntu to start with07:35
jdubDreamer31: ick, no.07:35
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jdubwd40: why do you want to build a kernel?07:35
Dreamer31jdub: no what?07:35
wd40hoary07:35
BenZ|Laptopso install windows first.. then what?07:35
thriftI'm trying to install ubuntu on a machine with a real lack of memory and it's flipping out about lowmem and asking me to set up swap space so it can install...I can't find any partitioning tool to ues from the command line, odes anyone know what to do07:35
jdubDreamer31: don't build linus kernels07:35
pwDreamer31: Building your own kernels is so 1996.07:35
jdubBenZ|Laptop: then install ubuntu ;)07:35
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Dreamer31jdub: *laughs* why not? :)07:36
jdubwd40:07:36
LathiatBenZ|Laptop: then install ubuntu and it should just work (tm)07:36
jdub$ apt-cache search linux-source07:36
jdublinux-patch-ubuntu-2.6.10 - Ubuntu patches to Linux 2.6.1007:36
jdublinux-source-2.6.10 - Linux kernel source for version 2.6.10 with Ubuntu patches07:36
jdub07:36
Dreamer31pw: oh, really?07:36
pwdreamer: Really.07:36
BenZ|LaptopDear Ubuntu07:36
BenZ|LaptopHave babies07:36
BenZ|Laptoplove benzor.07:36
jdubDreamer31: because linus kernels are pants, and the ubuntu kernels are rad.07:36
wd40i have twice compiled, the last time no errors, but both times got kernel panic on boot07:36
Dreamer31jdub: i run linus + con colivals patchset07:36
Dreamer31jdub: what does ubuntu kernels have?07:36
jdubwd40: why do you want to build a kernel?07:36
HrdwrBoBDreamer31: they have love07:36
jdubDreamer31: see linux-patch-ubuntu-2.6.1007:36
pwjdub: I'm liking this hot "just works" sexxoring that the Ubuntu kernels give me.07:36
Dreamer31jdub: where is that?07:37
Dreamer31jdub: i need urls, i don't have ubuntu07:37
jdubDreamer31: in archive.ubuntu.com07:37
jdubDreamer31: kinda pointless if you don't have ubuntu07:38
wd40I have a create labs SB Live 24 Audigy LS soundcard which I'm having trouble with...  I think I need the snd-ca0106 module, but am having trouble compiling linux 2.6.11rc2, which supports it.  Any suggestions for ubuntu kernel compiling?07:38
Dreamer31jdub: i'm wanting to know what patches the ubuntu kernel has07:38
jdublook at that package07:38
Dreamer31jdub: hardly pointless :)07:38
pwDreamer31: So go get the package, crack it open, and hav a look.07:38
pwhave*07:38
thriftwd40: I compiled my ubunut kernel from source07:38
BenZ|Laptopwhen was the last change to warty release?07:39
Dreamer31pw: next on my list... 56k modem, can only do one thing at a time really07:39
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Dreamer31pw: where in this dir structure do i look for tha package?07:40
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thriftwd40: I just downloaded the kernel source from kernel.org, un tarred it in /usr/src, linked it to /usr/src/linux went in that directory, make oldconfig, make, make modules, make modules_install, copy the bzImage to /boot, make yourself an initrd with mkinitrd, and update grub07:40
pwdreamer: pool/07:40
Dreamer31pw: yeah, found me way there, working down07:40
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wd40thrift: okay, previously i did the kmake ... package-something-erother and it seed to do most of that but didn't make initrd, i think that was cuz i compiled ext3 into the kernel and not as a module (i read), but that maybe just doesn't work right.  I'll do it the old fashioned  way that ;)  Thanks:)07:42
thriftwd40: I have no idea how kmake or anything like that works, but my kernel is running pretty good the "old fashioned way" so give it a go, the mkinitrd was the only thing that threw me07:43
HrdwrBoBor you could just use the ubuntu kernel07:43
wd40also i use make menuconfig to find stuff easier.  maybe I selected too many pkgs...07:44
thrifthe said a module for his sound card isn't in the ubuntu kernel07:44
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thriftwd40: well ya i make modifications there too, but to end up with a replica of the ubuntu kernel you don't need to07:44
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HrdwrBoBthrift: you can stil make a module07:45
HrdwrBoBwithout recompiling the whole kernel07:45
Dreamer31pw: archive isn't working for me07:46
Dreamer31ah07:46
Dreamer31finally07:46
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thriftthat's what they tell you, but i had no luck doing that with my hpt374 and highpoints module07:46
Dreamer31pw: ok, i don't see a linux-patch-ubuntu?07:46
thriftit wouldn't compile with the kernels headers there..07:46
pez252Question for someone... How can I burn a Ubuntu cd from within OS X?07:46
pez252it crashes Disk Utility and cdrecord makes a coaster07:47
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thriftpez252: what is the cdrecord command you are trying?07:47
pez252cdrecord -v speed=24 dev=IODVDServices Desktop/hoary-live-powerpc.iso07:48
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thriftprex252: I don't use OSX, but assuming you know what's up with the dev, that looks fine to me, you sure that the integrity of your iso is good/did you md5 it?07:49
pwDreamer31: That's because you're looking for pool/l/linux-source-2.6.1007:50
Dreamer31pw: i found it finally with google07:50
pwhttp://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.10/linux-patch-ubuntu-2.6.10_2.6.10-12_all.deb <-- there ya go07:50
pez252thrift: no i didnt... though im doing that now. I downloaded it via the torrent.. isnt each piece of a torrent checksum'd?07:51
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cowbudpez252: yep07:51
kleedracIs IPX networking a linux setting or wine setting?07:51
pez252thrift: md5 checks as ok07:51
thriftpez252: I'm sure there is some checking done, I was just asking that, because that's the only thing I could think of that could be wrong07:52
melazyboy2anyone here use CIFS rather than SMB for mounting windows shares **NOT A SAMBA QUESTION**, problem is adding the option users in fstab to allow users to mount gives error to CIFS saying user with no prameter anyone have away around this?07:52
HrdwrBoBmelazyboy2: CIFS == SMB07:52
melazyboy2HrdwrBoB: the options are different07:52
Dreamer31HrdwrBoB: they are a little diff :)07:52
nevyn_HrdwrBoB: not exactly.07:52
Dreamer31CIFS ~= SMB07:52
pez252Is it known why the iso crashes the default cd buring app in os x? Have any other suggestions?07:52
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Dreamer31pez252: weird07:53
Dreamer31pez252: did you md5sum it?07:53
melazyboy2this command used to work with SMB, infact worked with 3.x doesn't work with cifs, users can't mount only root07:53
pez252yeah07:53
cowbudpez252: did you do a md5sum on it?07:53
pwI've burned ISOs in OSX on a number of occasions and they worked :)07:53
Dreamer31pez252: weird07:53
thriftpex252: no ideas here, if md5ed ok, it is the cdburning apps problem I would think07:53
Dreamer31pez252: and we're just about to buy a nice mac too... hmmm...07:53
pw<pez252> thrift: md5 checks as ok07:53
cowbudhrmm07:53
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pwWhat version of OS X?07:53
Dreamer31pez252: hardware problem?07:53
pez252i found this http://www.intencha.com/adrian/burning_ubuntu_linux_iso_on_os_x.php which is why i tried cdrecord07:54
pez252looks like a number of people have been unable to burn from os x07:54
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Dreamer31pez252: apple lock-in ;-)07:54
pez252haha may be....07:54
melazyboy2omg im an idiot, you can only mount w/ cifs as root unless installed as setuid07:55
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phinis there a gui program to setup shares?07:55
Dreamer31is it just me or does bitkeeper take a while to start and connect?07:56
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fabbionemorning07:57
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fabbionemako: you around?07:58
Dreamer31is the tracker down for ubuntu?07:58
fabbioneops07:58
cowbudany gnome schema boys awake?07:58
Dreamer31at least wget always work :(07:58
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K_Richi think i got this damned gdesklets working :D08:00
K_Richdsfdsfds08:00
K_Richdsfdsfdsdsfsf] 08:00
K_Richdsfdsfdsdsfsf] 08:00
K_Richdsfdsfdsdsfsf] 08:00
pw...08:01
ferrisalainm: i installed the audacity, but when i go to export the file into a .mp3 file it gives me an error08:01
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ferrisit says that i am missing libmp3lame.so08:01
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melazyboy2eww08:07
melazyboy2god damit stupid cifs08:07
melazyboy2so shitty08:07
melazyboy2it won't let me mount the same location twice with different options08:08
melazyboy2that has to be a bug08:08
Adrenal?08:08
melazyboy2should be able to mount the same location locally two times, one read/write, one readonly samba did it cifs shits out08:08
melazyboy2cifs alsa won't let me mount as non-root08:08
melazyboy2also*08:08
Adrenalhmm, weird08:09
Adrenal...use samba?08:09
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melazyboy2samba is shitting out though too it has a problem with writes in 2.6.9+08:10
Adrenalhmm08:11
melazyboy2I/O error halts all torrents, kernel comes to a useless halt dmesg fills up with bad function calls to a faulty patch in smbclient, and the patches and config hacks to fix it get pretty ugly and aren't reliable08:11
melazyboy2by kernel comming to a hault i mean it fails to fork anything08:12
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mstsooo08:19
mstlet's see what's this all about08:19
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melazyboy2?08:21
melazyboy2my problem or yours?08:21
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SeminoleQuick question..  I need to get to init 3   However, init 3 is getting me nowhere.  What do I have to do to get out of gnome and stop X?08:29
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crimsunSeminole: switch to a console and type: ,,sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop''08:29
melazyboy2seminole how about going to a term, and as root typing 'killall gdm'08:29
crimsunSeminole: Ubuntu, like Debian, does not play runlevel games, so 2-5 are identical.08:29
melazyboy2...crim's way is more eligant my way gets it done too =D08:29
Seminolesweetness.   Thanks08:30
melazyboy2crimsun: the advantages of slackware08:30
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farruinnadvantage? ;P08:30
melazyboy2less time to do what you want, more complexity08:30
melazyboy2thats good right?08:30
Dreamer31is the ubuntu tracker offline?08:31
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AdrenalIS IT EVER?:):):)08:31
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crimsunDreamer31: the bugtracker, or the torrent tracker?08:31
melazyboy2mst: When you said you where going to see what this is all about, what did you mean?08:31
crimsun[bugzilla is up for me] 08:31
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PDhi has anybody used hostdump.sh here08:32
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Dreamer31crimsun: torrent08:34
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mstmelazyboy2, downloading warthog ISO08:36
mstthe torrent tracker is down for some reason08:36
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Dreamer31n/m, i just ordered it for $4 off eBay08:38
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ficusplanetDoes anyone know of a cvs/svn frontend for GNOME?08:43
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farruinngcvs08:44
farruinnat least that's what an 'apt-cache search cvs | grep frontend' turned up for me08:44
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bur[n] eranyone know if there's goign to be a US team for the LoCo thing?08:55
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farruinnvtg: why do I see "vtg has quit (client quit)" every four minutes but I never see you join?09:00
cowbud[23:56]  <-- vtg has quit (Client Quit)09:00
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cowbudthere he is again09:01
cowbudhrmm irssi09:01
farruinnhm, I didn't see a join message09:01
farruinnweird09:01
farruinnI mean, wtf is he doing?09:01
farruinnit looks like it's evey 4 minutes exactly09:02
cowbudno idea..09:03
cowbudit does look like it is 4 minutes though09:03
farruinnheh, not that it's the most important thing in the world, but it doesn't seem to busy in here right now09:03
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farruinntoo*09:03
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Peterwhats a good command line BitTorrent app?09:05
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Agrajagbtdownloadcurses09:05
cowbudbut of course09:05
Agrajaguse it with screen09:05
Peterdo you know the link? google just lists forusm09:07
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Agrajaglink?09:08
Agrajagit's part of bittornado09:08
Agrajagor the stock bittorrent client09:08
Peteroh, ok09:08
Peterhow do you run the ssh server?09:09
Peterjust install it?09:09
Agrajagyeah pretty much09:09
farruinnapt-get install openssh-server09:09
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Peterhow do you know if its running?09:10
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farruinnssh 127.0.0.1 =)09:10
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flodindo package repositories like those on apt-get.org work for ubuntu?09:10
farruinnflodin: yes, but it's not entirely recommended that you use them09:11
farruinnPeter: perhaps there's a more elegant way of checking, but that's what came to mind09:11
flodinwell apparently i have to, if i want wmv support09:11
farruinnPeter: like ps -A | grep sshd09:12
crimsunPeter: pgrep sshd09:12
shockmorning09:13
crimsunDreamer31: I'm working on packages.09:13
crimsunDreamer31: (really, just tidying them for hoary/universe)09:13
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poningruhey guys09:14
poningrugot a problem09:14
farruinncrimsun: are you an ubuntu dev?09:14
poningruMy keyboard is not working in gnome09:14
poningruthe thing is it works when starting up09:14
poningrulogin screen, I can put in my username and password09:15
crimsunfarruinn: no09:15
poningruand when it logs on keyboard does not respond09:15
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az[a] zelppowerpc iso torrent down ?09:16
crimsunponingru: warty or hoary?09:16
az[a] zelfor hoary live cd ?09:16
poningruwarty09:16
farruinnaz[a] zel: sounds like torrent is down entirely09:16
crimsunponingru: usb?09:16
az[a] zeldoh09:16
poningruno laptop keyboard09:16
az[a] zelshould I start ftp, or leave my client waiting for torrent to come back up? is it coming up soon?09:17
farruinnno idea :/09:17
syn-ackHi.09:18
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poningrucurrently speaking from the windows dual boot09:18
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poningruazazel: http://linux.slashdot.org/linux/05/01/28/0029223.shtml?tid=190&tid=162&tid=10609:18
poningruthats probably why09:18
az[a] zelslashdot effect can kill a tracker ?09:19
az[a] zelthey only have to download 30k each09:19
poningrusee that doesnt make sense09:19
poningrunm09:19
cowbudthe damn tracker should be able to hold up against a slashdotting09:19
poningrumy stupid logic back fired09:19
az[a] zelim downloading via ftp now anyway09:19
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shockwhat are you downloading?09:20
az[a] zelhoary-powerpc-live.iso09:20
haroldzoidCan someone tell me whether or not Visual Studio .Net 2003 works under wine?09:20
poningruso any idea crimsun?09:20
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cowbudharoldzoid: http://appdb.winehq.org/09:20
shockoh ok09:20
poningruanyone have any idea?09:21
farruinnponingru: it worked before?09:22
poningruyeah09:22
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poningruand it will work if I go into the recovery mode09:22
poningruthe stupid thing just doesnt work in gnome09:22
farruinndid you do an upgrade just before the problem started?09:22
poningruno, thats the thing I didnt do anything09:23
poningruI was typing along and then bam suddenly doesnt want to work anymore09:23
shockdoes it work in "failsafe terminal" ?09:23
shockcause then you cauld start gconf-editor from there, and try and find the gnome-keyboard settings.09:24
poningruyeah the failsafe terminal09:24
poningruit works in09:25
poningruhmm09:25
poningruok let me go give it a try09:25
poningruany advice on what to expect in there?09:25
shock:)09:25
shocker - no?09:25
shocknever done that09:25
shocklet me check09:25
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shock=)09:26
shockprobably some setting here?09:26
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farruinnmaybe check desktop/gnome/peripherals/keyboard/09:27
shockI have: layouts: [de_DE    nodeadkeys] 09:27
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shockmodel: pc10509:27
shockoptions [] 09:27
shockoverride Settings: no09:28
poningruok will go give it a try09:28
poningruwill be back through gnome if it works09:28
poningruif not will be back to annoy09:29
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poningruforgot to thank you guys09:29
poningruthnx09:29
farruinnshock: are you in germany or have a german keyboard?09:29
shockboth, actually :)09:29
farruinnwhat a coincidence :)09:29
mxreadercan anyone help please... i set screen resolution at 1024x768 and tick to apply by default, but when i log back on from a reboot, resolution goes back to 1600x120009:30
farruinnI wonder if poningru knew that...09:30
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shockbut rigth now I use this layout as a basis and correct it by xmodmap (the mac-layout got on my nerves)09:30
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shockok - must go to university now.... *narf@seminars*09:31
cowbudshock: shouldn't you be using a kde distro rather than a gnome distro? ;)09:31
cowbudUni ist bloed09:31
shockLOL.... *grrrr*09:31
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topylihmm. i made a gaim 1.1.1 package but apt wants to "upgrade" it to 1.1.009:31
shockno kde ... is ... erm ... not what I like.... never was09:32
syn-ackI use only one KDE app.... and thats k3b.09:32
cowbudshock: yah but it is typical for germany :)09:32
syn-ackshock: I feel ya. :p09:32
cowbudSyn-ack yah hopefully coaster will fix that shit09:32
shockactually I know more gnome users, then kde users09:32
cowbudshock: really..09:32
farruinnso I take it gaveman is a temporary solution?09:32
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jcapotehey guys09:32
shockno wonder.... ever sind gnome2.6 its the freakin best desktop there is for any OS09:32
jcapotei hear you guys have a new livecd system?09:33
cowbudtopyli: did your deb rules reflect a higher version ?09:33
shockhoi09:33
shockmust run now09:33
shockbus dont wait09:33
cowbudshock: viel spass09:33
shock(am not that important) *g*09:33
shockdanke09:33
syn-ackshock: Ive used Gnome since it had Sawfish in it.09:33
cowbudsyn-ack: yah, those were bitter times :)09:33
syn-ackI miss those days.09:33
cowbuduhh09:33
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cowbudyah I don't09:33
cowbudif you miss them so much apt-get install sawfish09:34
cowbudgnome 1.4 was terrible :)09:34
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syn-ackbah09:34
cowbudgmc in the stead of nautilus haha09:34
QuaruptANyone know the Default IP for a linksys broadband router, for the HTTP interface?09:34
topylicowbud: i believe the 1.1.0 on the repository has an "epoch" number or whatever it is. like 1:1.1.0, and my package doesn't09:34
QuaruptI think it is blocking ports09:34
cowbudQuarupt: I would guess 192.168.0.1 or 192.168.1.109:34
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syn-ackQuarupt: Read the manual?09:34
cowbudprobably the former..09:34
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syn-ackcowbud: its .100.109:34
cowbudtopyli: yah so add one that is higher :)09:34
cowbudtopyli: or put it on hold..09:35
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cowbudsyn-ack: nmap -sP '192.168.100.*' is our friend09:35
topylicowbud: it's on hold, no problem. just another lesson for me :)09:35
cowbudif you can get an ip from the router just use nmap to do the rest09:35
cowbudtopyli: :)09:35
syn-ackheh. I have a sane scheme.... 10.10.x.x. ;)09:35
cowbud:)09:36
syn-ackcowbud: hell ping -b would tell ya anyway.09:36
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cowbudsyn-ack: indeed..09:36
mxreadercan anyone help please... i set screen resolution at 1024x768 and tick to apply by default, but when i log back on from a reboot, resolution goes back to 1600x120009:36
cowbudhrmm are xrandr settings supposed to persist? I didn't think so...09:37
syn-ackcowbud: I always loose boxen off of the DHCP lease expiring.... thats my fix. ;)09:37
mxreaderthe xrandr?09:37
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syn-ackIm too lazy to fix it to static. heh09:38
cowbudSyn-ack: haha09:38
YokoZarIs there a development IRC channel?09:38
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Quaruptgrrr09:38
cowbudYokoZar: depends on for what..09:38
syn-ackYokoZar: thats what freenode is for I thought...09:38
QuaruptOkay stupid router, i just want to make it allow all ports so this cygwinx installer can connect09:38
YokoZarWell at wine we have a user's channel and a developers channel09:38
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YokoZarI have a package I'd like included in Ubuntu main that supercedes the Debian ones.09:39
syn-ackYokoZar: I think this is more or less both....09:39
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Quaruptstupid router!09:39
farruinnYokoZar: #ubuntu-devel09:39
YokoZarHmm...I suppose I should just send off an email to the mailing list, since it doesn't look like the developers really read the forum09:39
syn-ackfarruinn: aha. thanks09:39
Quaruptis it configured by default to block ports09:39
YokoZarthanks farruinn09:40
farruinnnp09:40
syn-ackQuarupt: You know, thats a Good Thing.09:40
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Quaruptyea but i want to be able to see what ports so i can change them so i can play games on net and install stuff that uses random ports09:41
syn-ackQuarupt: Explain to me as to why you would want a router fully open?09:41
Quarupti just want some ports open09:41
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Quaruptso this cygwinx installer will connect09:41
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syn-ackQuarupt: Then read the manual that came with the router.09:42
sanfordnsonhow do i log in as root with ubuntu?09:42
Quaruptmaybe someone else can see if it will connect for them maybe its a server problem09:42
Quaruptwhat flavor?09:42
Quaruptyou cant in warty09:42
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topylisanfordnson: you don't.09:42
Quaruptyou have to use sudo09:42
YokoZarsanfordnson: sudo su - I think09:42
sanfordnsonreally09:42
YokoZarYou can run su using sudo09:42
Quaruptnever tried that09:42
sanfordnsonsudo su?09:42
YokoZarBut really the best thing to do is log in as a normal user and use sudo for your root commands09:42
syn-ackYokoZar: WTF do you think the SU in sudo is?09:43
topylisanfordnson: if you really really want a root shell, use 'sudo sh'09:43
sanfordnsonwhy isnt there a way to log in as root?09:43
Quaruptits a bitch wring sudo before every line in a shel script09:43
syn-acksanfordnson: there is.09:43
Quaruptsan, its for your safety09:43
YokoZarsyn-ack: su is disabled in Ubuntu, but you can access it with sudo ;p09:43
cowbudsyn-ack: I use sudo su on other distros (that have root account enabled) so I can have a different root password :)09:43
YokoZarif for some reason you want a permanent root terminal09:43
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syn-ackYokoZar: I use su just fine. I just know what Im doing.09:43
syn-ackcowbud: heh09:44
sanfordnsonfirst distro ive ever tried that didnt have root09:44
topylisyn-ack: i've heard these words before :)09:44
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farruinnubhuti: rootsudo09:44
ubhutiBy default the root password is disabled in Ubuntu. Instead use `sudo [command] ' (and your user password). If you haven't already, please read http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo09:44
Quaruptsomeone else try to use cygwinx installer plz and tell me if they can connect to the server or if its just me09:44
farruinnsanfordnson: read the wiki entry09:44
syn-acksanfordnson: it does. it is DISABLED thats why you need to use sudo09:44
topylisanfordnson: there always has to be root. ubuntu just has root login disabled09:44
Quaruptsomeone plz09:44
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syn-acktopyli: ever rm -fr / before? NOT FUN! heh09:45
sanfordnsoncommand line..no thanks...dont understand it or have the time to learn it09:45
farruinnthen wtf do you need root user for?09:45
syn-acksanfordnson: then you shouldnt run linux09:45
sanfordnsonto install packages09:45
topylisyn-ack: i've done it in my home dir, when i thought i was in ~/tmp :)09:45
farruinnsanfordnson: just use synaptic, use your user pass09:46
syn-acksanfordnson: you can use sudo for that.09:46
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farruinnheh, whatever09:46
syn-ackI think he was a haxor09:46
syn-acklittle twit..09:46
topyliWOOT!09:46
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poningruit works guys09:47
Quaruptwhats a good free IRCd for windows?09:47
poningruwoot09:47
syn-acktopyli: its rather neat watching it toast the drive then rm its self will break when its starts deleting the libs... heh09:47
farruinnponingru: cool, I wish I knew how it happened09:47
Scooter<Quarupt> X-CHAT09:47
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Quarupthaha09:48
Quarupti said IRCd lol09:48
AgrajagScooter: ircd09:48
Quaruptnot irc client09:48
Scooter0o09:48
cowbudQuarupt: yah it is better than people saying hey did you get on mirc tonight?09:48
farruinnQuarupt: you do know how to use apt-cache search, right? I take it you're just looking for opinions?09:48
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Agrajagfarruinn: he said for windows09:48
AgrajagScooter: an IRC daemon09:48
Quaruptlol im not at home im at work09:48
farruinnoh, sorry, missed that09:48
topylisyn-ack: i'm sure it is. I only lost my home dir, which i could restore from backups. the document i was working on was open on LyX, so i could just save that and all was well :)09:48
Quarupton a windows box09:48
AgrajagThat which you connect to with an IRC client09:49
poningrufarrium: just had to make it default again09:49
syn-ackheh09:49
Quarupti cant very well apt-cache search in a CMD window lol09:49
poningruwhich thankfully can be done with just a mouse09:49
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Scooterlol09:49
Quaruptlol its just the server your client connects when using irc09:50
poningruin windows I would use gaim for IRC09:50
poningruheh09:50
poningrunm09:50
Agrajaguh09:50
Quaruptlol, not a client i need a server09:50
poningruyeah just read that part09:50
Quarupt a windows IRCd09:50
poningruhence the nm09:50
Quarupti know they exist09:50
Scootertoo bad no synaptic for windows :(09:50
Quaruptits called windows update09:51
Quaruptlol09:51
null_hah09:51
Agrajagthat only updates a few things09:51
Scooter<Quarupt> try over at #bb4win, those guys help me out with windows and dos stuff all the time09:51
Quarupti hate windows, i hate being forced to use it at work09:51
poningruah yes the windows update of 14000 software09:51
Agrajagfor most programs you need to go find the updates yourself09:51
Quaruptadministering a win2k3 server is so much more of a pain then a gentoo server09:51
Agrajagwhich is annoying as hell and makes me wish I could get my family to use gnome09:52
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Agrajagupdating 3 computers running 3 different windows versions is annoying as hell09:52
Scooter<Agrajag> make system Dual Boot 8)09:52
AgrajagScooter: why? They'd all just use windows09:52
Agrajagwe each have our own computer09:52
ScooterI ment for yourself :)09:52
AgrajagI already do ???09:53
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Agrajagwindows for games, ubuntu for everything else, BeOS when I feel masochistic09:53
ScooterI made this in Linux 100% today 8)09:53
Scooterhttp://www.s91842597.onlinehome.us/game/ninja/ninja.htm09:53
ScooterUbuntu rocks :)09:54
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cowbudAgrajag: what games do you play inw indows that you can't in ubuntu? :)09:54
cowbudbzw linux09:55
Quaruptlol doom309:55
Quarupthalf life 209:55
cowbudQuarupt: uhh doom3 has a port09:55
AgrajagQuarupt: doom3 is native linux09:55
cowbudQuarupt: half life 2 works with cedega :)09:55
Quaruptwont run in nix only with cedega and then it sux09:55
topyliQuarupt: no doom3 for linux?09:55
Quaruptcedega is crap09:55
ScooterID software ROX :D09:55
Agrajagcedega?09:55
cowbudwww.transgaming.com09:55
Agrajagit's native.09:55
cowbudcedega works..09:55
Quaruptand you have to pay for it un les you can actually get the cvs source to work09:55
cowbudI admit it isn't as good as winsh!t09:55
Agrajagit works but slowly and crappily09:56
Scooteryou pay subscription, not buy09:56
cowbudQuarupt: most of the time the stuff that works with cedega also works with wine09:56
Agrajagand it takes away the incentive for companies to make ports09:56
Quaruptno lol it doesnt09:56
Quaruptnot anything DX09:56
syn-ackWineX is evil09:56
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Agrajaganyway, I COULD play ut2k4 in linux, if I wanted to play it at half the framerate as in windows09:56
Quaruptnothing DX will run in wine09:56
cowbudsyn-ack: we don't want to start that09:56
Scootermost of the time the stuff that works with cedega also works with Windows...09:56
Quaruptlol scooter09:56
cowbudAgrajag: hrmm 2k4 worked pretty good in linpoop for me..09:56
topyliyeah windows is the best windows emulator09:57
cowbudAgrajag: let me guess ati card?09:57
Agrajagno09:57
Agrajagti420009:57
cowbudhuh09:57
AgrajagDid you actually compare it to running in windos on the same machine?09:57
Quaruptcan anyone help me write an ircd.conf09:57
Agrajagthe directx renderer for the UT2 engine is much better than the GL one09:57
ScooterI just play games in linux for the iorny of it all09:58
cowbudhaha09:58
cowbudAgrajag: if I get 60 frames or 120 it is still smooth enough to play but yes windows plays better I agree..09:58
Agrajaghahahah 6009:58
AgrajagI get 45 in windows09:58
Agrajaghalf that in linux09:59
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cowbudbummer fro you :)09:59
AgrajagI can't even play lame old arcade games, gxmame doesn't seem to work in ubuntu09:59
Scooter<Agrajag> try ZNES and dgen 8)09:59
Agrajaguh10:00
AgrajagThose don't run the same games10:00
Agrajagand it's zsnes, not znes10:00
cowbudhahah10:00
Scootersnes and sega :p10:00
null_any one have setup xinerama with nvidia twinview ?10:00
Agrajagyeah so10:00
Agrajagmame runs arcade games10:00
Agrajagnot console10:00
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cowbudyah I never got mame to work but blah..10:00
Scootercan you get it to work with commandline?10:00
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cowbudI was too lazy10:00
Agrajaghell if I know10:00
Agrajagand I don't want to find the right command line for each game10:01
Agrajaggxmame worked perfectly in gentoo10:01
Scooter0o10:01
Agrajagbut it's not in ubuntu's apt repositories10:01
cowbudAgrajag: even in universe?10:01
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Agrajagand the .deb I found doesn't work right, I get a blank gamelist10:01
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Agrajagnot in universe, not in multiverse10:01
cowbudhuh10:02
topyliScooter: what is vitalinux?10:02
Agrajagyeah10:02
Agrajagmaybe it'll be in hoary10:02
ScooterVitalinux is  a live CD that lets you install GENTOO on your computer with Redhat Anaconda installer10:02
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Scooterstage 3 Gentoo10:03
MeMa|Sorcererhi10:03
Agrajagso it's just like installing red hat, but it takes 100x as long?10:03
Agrajagoh10:03
Scooterhi 8)10:03
cowbudahah10:03
Scooterit is precompiled imagees , stage 3 i think it is called10:03
Agrajagyes, I know10:04
ScooterI have never used it because i like Debian :)10:04
AgrajagI used gentoo for almost a year10:04
topyliScooter: gentoo without the gentoo part (that is, compiling the system)10:04
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Agrajagwell, you still get to compile everything any time you update10:04
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Scooteryea, portage updates you and compiles i think...10:05
shockre @ uni =)10:05
topyliAgrajag: other distros have source packages too. you can always update from them :)10:06
Agrajagtopyli: ew10:06
farruinnI don't get the fuss over gentoo, you can apt-get -b source anytime10:06
topyliheh10:06
Scootercan we install hoary from hoary live CD?10:06
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Agrajagfarruinn: well, it's a bit more complex than that, you get the whole USE flags system10:06
Agrajagbut I got so damn sick of waiting for compiles to finish10:07
bur[n] erScooter: nope10:07
topyliAgrajag: it's better than using compiler options on debian?10:07
Agrajagand the thing about things running faster is complete BS in my opinion10:07
Agrajagtopyli: it's not compiler options10:07
farruinnAgrajag: heh, I always wonder if the performance boost outweighs the wait time10:07
farruinnapparently not10:07
topyliAgrajag: oh. so what is it then?10:07
Agrajagit's deciding, per package or for the entire system, whether you want, for example, PNG support10:07
Agrajagfarruinn: there is no performance boost10:08
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Agrajagalmost every program is bounded by I/O, not CPU time10:08
farruinntrue10:08
Agrajagso all these ridiculous compiler flags you see gentooers using just cause instabilities and make compiles take longer10:09
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Agrajagbut whatever10:09
topyliAgrajag: so you can decide what you like and always use the same "flags" for all packages where they apply?10:09
farruinnif it makes them happy =)10:09
Agrajagyes10:09
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AgrajagOr you can choose them per-package, like if you want one media player to have MKV support but not another10:09
Agrajagit's actually pretty nice, but it's not worth it as far as I'm concerned10:10
topyliAgrajag: hmm. might be useful, but gentoo still seems a bit too laborious for me :)10:10
bur[n] erthat's a lot of admin work :\10:10
Agrajagadmin work? hah, god help you if you're running gentoo on something other than a desktop10:11
bur[n] erif ubuntu could just optimize it's boot sequence... it would feel just as fast as gentoo10:11
bur[n] ersupposedly it's been done for hoary10:12
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Agrajagyeah I've heard that, we'll see in a couple months10:12
Agrajagit will10:12
Agrajagyou could switch to hoary right now if you felt adventurous10:12
topylii'll wait until gnome is stable10:13
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topylithen i'll have to see how hard it is to upgrade with all the backports and my own packages. i may have to uninstall most of the system first :)10:14
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farruinntopyli: I think the report has generally been that you have to remove backports first10:15
topylifarruinn: yes10:15
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topylifarruinn: i've been lazy and using a lot of backports. when i used woody i used to make packages from unstable sources.10:16
topylidon't know if it's any better for upgrades though :)10:16
bur[n] ercan anyone recommend a text editor with tag highlighting that is curses based?10:16
Agrajagvim?10:17
Agrajagis that curses?10:17
bur[n] eremacs seems a bit overkill10:17
bur[n] eruhh10:17
bur[n] ermaybe10:17
Agrajagnano might do it if you're lazy10:17
Agrajagjust make sure you alias nano to nano -w10:17
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Agrajagotherwise it'll destroy long lines in files10:17
farruinnvim is ncurses10:17
bur[n] ernano works for me fine, but i was just hoping for something to edit php on my server10:18
bur[n] errather than ftp, change it, ftp it back10:18
bur[n] ervim looks good to me10:18
farruinnvim is awesome10:18
bur[n] ernow i gotta learn vi commands better :\10:18
topylidoes nano have syntax highllighting? methinks it doesn't10:18
Agrajagyou really should learn vim, it's pretty much the standard text editor on any unix-like system10:18
Agrajagwell, vim or vi10:18
bur[n] ernano has no syntax highlighting :\10:18
Agrajagoh it doesn't?10:18
bur[n] ernope10:18
Agrajagnever mind then, I never use it so I don't know10:19
topyliit's good for email but not for code10:19
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bur[n] erdoes vim have an "undo" ?10:19
dwa_yes10:19
dwa_press the letter "u"10:19
null_escape keu then u10:19
farruinnbur[n] er: do vimtutor, it will get you going10:19
bur[n] er(mutt always pissed me off since you need fetchmail to get pop3 stuff)10:19
topylibur[n] er: vim has everything, but every feature is a secret you'll have to discover :)10:20
bur[n] erfor sure ;)10:20
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bur[n] erjust curious if it was worth it to start learning10:20
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bur[n] eri'd hate to start learning stuff to find out it's crippled by not having a feature i deperately love ;)10:20
dwa_vi(m) is worth learning10:21
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dwa_it's installed on virtually all linux, unix etc. machines10:21
topylibur[n] er: you can't go wrong with emacs or vim. they will have every feature you can dream of (although vim is just an editor and emacs is an operating system)10:21
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Agrajagand emacs even contains vim 8)10:22
Agrajagwell not exactly, but viper-mode is pretty close10:22
topyliAgrajag: of course, the viper mode :)10:22
njanAgrajag, it's on the left of the can opener, isn't it? ;)10:22
topyliand you can always M-x psychoanalyze zippy :)10:22
Agrajagyeah, above the email client, under the psychiatrist, behind the IRC client10:23
shocknow thats weird... running oversized and slow emacs withe the "great" functionality of vim *g*10:23
topyliEMACS: Eight Megabytes And Constantly Swapping10:23
cowbudtime is 1 2 310:23
topylior Emacs Makes All Computers Slow :)10:24
AgrajagEscape Meta Alt Control Shift10:25
topyliawww10:25
farruinnheh, I like that last one10:26
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topyliit does seem a waste to run emacs for an editor only. if you use emacs, you might as well use it for everything. forget gnome! :)10:27
AgrajagI know a guy in sweden who does exactly that10:27
Agrajagruns ratpoison as a WM and has a few emacs windows open and nothing else10:27
topyliAgrajag: good for remote stuff too, runs in console and does everything10:28
AgrajagERC for irc, some mpd client for music10:28
Agrajagyeah10:28
topylimpd clients exist for everybody. at the very least you can use the http client10:29
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topylimany games don't like esd or polypaudio. the sound is quite shitty and slow too. is there a way to configure esd better?10:34
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TurominioHi. I need help installing wxPython10:34
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TurominioIt can't find gtk when I try installing from source10:34
TurominioPeople have said that it can be apt-get'ed, but there's no wxPython package in the repository10:35
TurominioCould someone help me?10:35
topyliTurominio: you probably don't have the gtk development packages10:35
TurominioNo, I just apt-get'ed them. No difference10:35
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topyliTurominio: there seems to be libwxgtk2.4-python. is that even close?10:36
Turominiolemme try10:36
nirhow can I get python 2.4?10:37
nircompile myself? debian package?10:37
TurominioPackage libwxgtk2.4-python is not available, but is referred to by another package.10:37
Turominio(response from apt-get)10:38
nirhmm, but its not python2.410:38
topyliTurominio: weird. i wonder what repository gives me that package10:38
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nirIs it save to add debian to the source list?10:39
topylinir: not really10:39
TurominioYeah, I only have archive and security (.ubuntu.com) in the source list10:40
nirso the best would be to compile python?10:40
topyliTurominio: i even have the package installed, don't know why10:40
topylinir: get hoary sources and build from there, it's easiest10:40
nircan I add hoary source to my sources list?10:40
nirI'm using warty10:41
topylior Sid sources, doesn't matter10:41
Turominiowhat would be the addresses for those?10:41
topylinir: add deb-src lines, not deb :)10:41
topyliTurominio: hoary sources?10:41
nirwhere I find these lines? :)10:41
bur[n] erthanks for the vim tip guys :)10:41
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Turominioor Sid. ANything that *might* have wxpython10:42
bur[n] eri have found my new favorite text editor :)10:42
bur[n] ervimtutor was great :)10:42
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topylihoary source repository: deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary main restricted universe multiverse10:42
shockmultiverse? is there an underverse, too? :P10:42
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topylishock: i don't know what they can come up with next :)10:43
topylimultiverse i think is questionable stuff that you would get from marillat on debian10:44
shockoh ok10:44
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Agrajagno, multiverse is just nonfree10:44
shocki was referring in joke to "riddic chronicles of a warror" with underverse....10:44
shock*sigh*10:44
topyliAgrajag: ah10:44
shock=)10:44
Agrajagyou still need marillat for those things10:44
Agrajagmarillat stuff seems to work fine in ubuntu10:44
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topyliAgrajag: just try to upgrade mplayer from marillat :(10:45
TreadingSoftl1what does marillat mean?10:45
Agrajaghah, yeah10:45
Agrajagit's the guy who runs the repo's name10:45
topyliTreadingSoftl1: christian marillat's multimedia repository10:45
TreadingSoftl1topyli: ah okay10:45
Turominiotopyli: What would "universe" be? I notice that my sources were not configureed with that option.10:45
shockits mplayer and codecs n stuff10:45
tswwe all thank marillat for great repo10:45
shockuniverse is kde, i.e10:46
topyliTurominio: it's everything that's in debian but not in ubuntu10:46
Agrajaguniverse is nonsupported but free packages10:46
Agrajagmultiverse is nonsupported and nonfree10:46
TreadingSoftl1nonfree in what sense?10:46
topylitsw: yes, he provides a great service for debian users. like the PLF for mandrake people10:47
Agrajagnot free-as-in-speech10:47
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nirno python2.4 even with hoary10:47
topylinir: try unstable10:47
tswtopyli: been using marillat almost as long as debian..10:48
Turominiow00t. It works. Just needed to uncomment the warty universe repositories.10:48
topylitopyli: i don't now any debian users who don't :)10:48
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nirwhat shuld I set in synpatic settings: expert10:49
shockactually its the first tihng i manually add to all deb sources when i install for anyone10:49
shock*g*10:49
topyliTurominio: yeah, they only enable the stuff they support by default10:49
TurominioAnother question: Am learning Python, looking for an IDE. I've found SPE, which is why I need wxPython. Has anyone tried it, or other Python IDE's?10:49
nirdefault archive: ignore|now|wary|warty-security?10:49
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nirI recommend emacs for python10:50
[PervertedMonk] lo all10:50
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topylinir: warty-security i guess10:50
nirits great for editing python sources10:50
TurominioUbuntu emacs doesn't seem to be getting the syntax highlighting going10:50
Treekillhey all10:50
Treekillits cold here in florida10:50
hazza96why can't I download the bittorrent of the Hoary Live CD?10:50
nirecams on ubuntu suck, vs emacs on mac os x10:51
topyliTreekill: so you say. it's not exactly summertime in finland either :)10:51
Treekilllol10:51
tsw-15 in jyvaskyla finland10:51
nirthe antialiasing is not good, and the scroll wheel does not work10:51
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Turominionir: ok, so how do I go about fixing emacs?10:51
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Agrajagyou need something in your emacs config file, (global-font-lock-mode t) I think10:51
nirI don't know10:51
nirI only used it for few minues on ubuntu, but few years on os x10:52
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topyliTreekill: hell, you made me look! it's -13 centigrade10:52
Agrajagtry it now, do m-x global-font-lock-mode t10:52
Agrajagsee if that does it10:52
Turominioand, how do I get it to do Python syntax highlighting (and why doesn't it come with it, given the Python-centricity of Ubuntu?)10:52
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niryou need python-mode.el10:53
niryou can get it from www.python.org10:53
[PervertedMonk] how good is ubuntu guys10:53
nirI heard that vim has also great python support10:53
[PervertedMonk] i havent used linux before10:53
topyliTurominio: or perhaps you haven't set up emacs to check the file type before loading, so that everything opens in fundamental-mode10:53
nirif you can get use to it10:53
TurominioI think I got that yesterday. Where do I put it?10:53
[PervertedMonk] can anyone help p;z10:54
nirTurominio, try to look for info in the emacswiki10:54
topyli[PervertedMonk] : don't ask to ask, just ask10:54
scizzo[PervertedMonk] : maybe if you asked what the problem is? :)10:54
[PervertedMonk] hehe10:55
[PervertedMonk] ok10:55
[PervertedMonk] well i havent used linux before10:55
[PervertedMonk] just want to know if ubuntu is a good start?10:55
topyliyes10:55
scizzoyes it is10:55
[PervertedMonk] how so?10:55
topyliJust Works (TM)10:55
[PervertedMonk] what about mandrake?10:55
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Agrajagmandrake is buggy as hell10:56
Agrajagat least it was when I quit using it, 9.2 or so10:56
topyli[PervertedMonk] : mandrake is nice too, but if you get into trouble, it's more difficult to fix10:56
[PervertedMonk] ok thanks10:56
scizzomandrake? why would anyone ever consider using that? :P10:56
[PervertedMonk] and what programs does ubuntu come with10:56
topyliscizzo: i "considered" for years :)10:56
Agrajagall of them?10:56
[PervertedMonk] ok awesome10:56
[PervertedMonk] how do i get a copy?10:57
tswwhy would someone even think about using anything else than a debian deritive10:57
scizzo[PervertedMonk] : why not just try it and find out if you like it or not?10:57
Agrajagwell, it installs gnome by default, but you can get pretty much everything from the universe and multiverse repositories10:57
[PervertedMonk] yes scizzo10:57
[PervertedMonk] i want to hey10:57
[PervertedMonk] how can i get a copy10:57
[PervertedMonk] jst download it i suppose?10:57
scizzo[PervertedMonk] : www.ubuntulinux.org10:57
tswyep10:57
Agrajag[PervertedMonk] : either download it from ubuntulinux.org or see if you can get a CD shipped from there10:57
Tomcat_Can anybody tell me what's up with the torrent of hoary live?10:57
topyli[PervertedMonk] : basically, ubuntu gives you a nice gnome workstation, and you can get the rest of the world's free software over the net10:57
AgrajagI don't know if they're still shipping them out though10:57
[PervertedMonk] ok thanks u guys been a great help10:57
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scizzo[PervertedMonk] : I would think that you should really go to that site and read a little of what is written there10:58
[PervertedMonk] ok tahnks scizzo10:58
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nirhmm, I found a repeating bug with synpatic10:58
scizzo[PervertedMonk] : I tried over 5 or 6 distros before using ubuntu10:58
[PervertedMonk] and?10:59
niras soon as I set preferences:expert:default archive10:59
[PervertedMonk] ubutu was your most preferable?10:59
nirmy pakcakage list is empty10:59
[PervertedMonk] hmmm10:59
niruntil I delete ~root/.synpatic10:59
[PervertedMonk] the the downloadpage is weirf10:59
[PervertedMonk] *weird10:59
TurominioI will say, though, after using Ubuntu for 3 days now: It requires a lot of extra stuff to become a developing environment10:59
nircan anyone try this?11:00
[PervertedMonk] tehre are .iso and .torrent as well?11:00
Agrajaga lot?11:00
scizzo[PervertedMonk] : yes11:00
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TurominioBut, it is very slick, and probably one of the most user-friendly distro's around11:00
[PervertedMonk] what to do?11:00
niropen synpatic11:00
scizzo[PervertedMonk] : get the iso11:00
nirgo to pref11:00
[PervertedMonk] ok thanks11:00
[PervertedMonk] ;)11:00
[PervertedMonk] soz for beiing a n00b and all11:00
scizzotorrents are nice...but I don't know how they work just yet11:01
topylinewbies are cool :)11:01
[PervertedMonk] hmm schizzo most of the new stuff are on torernts hey11:01
scizzoso?11:02
scizzoI am old fashion11:02
[PervertedMonk] hehehe11:02
[PervertedMonk] okies11:02
TreadingSoftl1anybody know what the name of the gnome font viewing app is, because my gnome can't find it?11:02
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NgTreadingSoftl1: gnome-font-viewer? ;)11:05
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nirhmm, nice, after I wasted hours on compling my own smp kernel, now I see that I could get it from warty-security11:08
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nirwith universe11:08
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Ngnir: there ought to be smp kernels in main I believe11:09
nirat least I learned a lot while making my own kernel11:09
MM2nir: we say in Finland: stupid head hurts whole body... :)11:09
nirnot for ppc11:09
Ngag11:09
NgI mean "ah" ;)11:09
[PervertedMonk] is ubuntu south african made?11:09
nirag is also ok :)11:10
MM2[PervertedMonk] : no, it's Nigerian ;)11:10
[PervertedMonk] serious?11:10
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[PervertedMonk] kewl11:10
Ngit's not either, although the guy funding it is south african11:10
nirthis sources list should be simpler11:10
[PervertedMonk] ok ok thanks ;)11:11
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Ngit's made from only the finest natural debian ;)11:11
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twidsHi, just a quick printing question, when the printer is detected (by hotplug?) should cups be restarted? It doesn't seem to detect it otherwise.11:11
nirlike a check box in synpatic [ ]  Include unstable pakcages11:11
shocktwids - check /var/log/syslog11:12
Lathiattwids: you need to set it up in the printer manager11:12
nirWith a hellp line11:12
Lathiattwids: administration->printing11:12
nir"If you don't find what you are looking for, try to enabble, note that ...etc"11:12
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=== nir booting with new smp kernel...........
twidsSome more info, if I turn the printer on before booting it appears in "Add a printer --> use detected printer" list box, otherwise if I turn it on while ubunty is running is shows up in dmesg but not the listbox11:15
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twidsBut it does show up if I restart cups11:15
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Savi cant leave my laptop running during the night. It freezes and the fans goes crazy after like 3-4 hours idle. Any ideas?11:16
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EvolutionRhow to upgrade warthy to hoary?11:20
shockadd hoary to sources.list11:21
shockapt-get update11:21
shockapt-get dist-upgrade11:21
shockpray11:21
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EvolutionRshock: how to add hoary to sources.list?11:22
shocku got the warty sources in there, right?11:23
EvolutionRshock: yes11:23
EvolutionRdefault11:23
shockjust edit /etc/apt/sources.list and replace warty with hoary11:23
shock:)11:23
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Emanuelezhello * :)11:24
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Savwhats better with horay?11:25
EvolutionRdeb cdrom:[Ubuntu 4.10 _Warty Warthog_ - Preview i386 Binary-1 (20041020)] / unstable main restricted11:26
EvolutionR  do I need to change that line to hoary hedgehog too?11:26
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julien_hi11:27
julien_Is anyone running today's Hoary ?11:27
julien_I noticed that gamin seems to be totally borked today. Am I the only one to see it ?11:27
shockyes11:27
shockgamin?11:27
shockhm11:27
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shocki noticed evolution being totally *******ed11:27
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nirwhat is the place to compile python? /usr/local/src?11:28
LnxGnomescsi anyone?11:28
julien_shock: Please try to put a file in your trashcan, and tell me if the file disappears from Nautilus.11:29
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shockyes11:29
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shockit usually does11:29
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shockunless i somehow killed or mangled the famd11:29
julien_famd ? Don't you use gamin instead of fam ?11:30
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shockhm11:31
ograshock: looks like you hadnt ubuntu-desktop installed on upgrade11:31
shockunless it got replaced lately11:31
julien_In hoary, gamin replaced fam.11:31
julien_And it s**cks big time :)11:31
shockhrhr11:31
shockso? fam sucked too11:31
julien_lol, you're right :)11:31
ograjulien_: gamin works great on all my machines...11:32
LnxGnomeHi folks, does anyone have a vmlinuz with scsi compiled in, or a initrd.gz with scsi_mod that I can netboot from?  I'm trying to do a new netinst (boot from the net too) but the default kernel is missing the scsi bits. libata (nor any other sata/scsi) will not load.11:32
julien_Just not for the same reasons.11:32
ograjulien_: did you file bugs ?11:32
julien_ogra: yes, I filed lots of bugs. Some have been fixed since, some not.11:32
ograah, great :)11:32
julien_ogra: but today, all the bugs I filed seem to be back...11:33
evil-dnahello11:33
julien_ogra: for gamlin, that is.11:33
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ograjulien_: hmm...11:33
julien_hi evil-dna11:33
evil-dnai cannot boot from ubuntu discs11:33
evil-dnai get a grub error 21 or something11:33
evil-dnaanyone knows about it?11:33
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julien_ogra: I know that Jeff wanted to temporarily remove inotify support from gamin, so maybe it's the cause of all the problems I get nowadays.11:34
evil-dnai thought about replacing grub by lilo and building a new iso11:34
evil-dnaanyone tried it?11:34
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ograjulien_: that might be... my update from yesterday didnt break anything though....11:34
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evil-dnaubuntu live cd uses eltorito right?11:35
BenZor|Lapis there an au mirror for updates?11:37
BenZor|Lapand how to I add it to the list (i forgot) :(11:38
LnxGnomeis anyone out there using ubuntu on sata or scsi drives?11:40
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julien_ogra: I asked Sebastien Bacher about the gamin problem, and inotify removal is indeed the culprit. An updated gamin will be available soon.11:42
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BenZor|Laphow do you make tapping the trackpad register as a click?11:54
evil-dnai donno11:54
evil-dnamust be something in your X config file11:55
evil-dnai have a bug on my gentoo, it registers as a double click :S11:55
quittewine doesn'T sutomatically setup my cdrom drive for some reason11:55
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evil-dnaso noone ever had a grub error with ubuntu discs?11:56
evil-dnau R lucky11:56
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LnxGnomeevil-dna: haven't gotten that far through the install yet ;)11:56
shockansone here using hoary and evolution?11:56
linuxboyevil-dna: nope11:56
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nir_I have both gcc 3.3 and 3.411:59
nir_I see that 3.3 is the default11:59
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nir_why?11:59
saifhi11:59
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LnxGnomenir_: WAG 3.3 is more stable?12:02
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evil-dnaLnx|Lapp, havent gotten that far? are you mocking me?12:03
evil-dnaerr that wasnt you12:03
saifi just downloaded a .deb package12:03
quittedoes ubuntu usually have an entry for cdrom in fstab?12:03
saifhow do i install it?? i tried running dpkg -i filename12:04
evil-dnawell just to let you know.. on my box booting from an ubuntu disc just displays an error message12:04
linux-rulzi have 2 entries for my cdrom drives in fstab...why, dont u?12:04
saifand it gives me a dependency problem, so i get the pckage they requested in the dependency and i try dpkg -i 2nd file12:04
quittelinux-rulz i switched from debian and didn'T go through the ubuntu installer.12:05
saifthen it tells me that there is a dependency problem, and that it needs the first file!!12:05
quittelinux-rulz:  and gnome-volume-manager doesn'T need those entries12:05
linux-rulzquitte: u managed to do that? i tried and broke my system at one point, so i just reinstalled with the Ubuntu installer12:05
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quittelinux-rulz no trouble at all. apt-get dist-upgrade moved me flawlessly to hoary12:06
saifany1 has ideas how to install those files?12:06
magiccheesei installed the ati control panel how would i acsess that12:06
quittelinux-rulz i had some trouble later - but as far as i can tell i would have had that with hoary alone,too12:06
quittelinux-rulz for example installing package gnome is just impossible12:07
quittelinux-rulz i'm now installing ubuntu-* packages. seems to work. but connection is slow today12:08
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magiccheesedoes anyone use the Control panel for the ATI Radeon and FireGL graphics accelerators.12:09
quittelinux-rulz: can you show me your cdrom lines in fstab?12:09
magiccheesei just installed it via synaptic12:09
quittewhere can i find ubuntu mirrors?12:10
quitte10kb/s is unacceptable12:10
ciocanelHi guys, I want to mount a drive as smbfs, do I need all samba software for that?12:11
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[PervertedMonk] hey i registered to receive an ubuntu cd12:12
[PervertedMonk] how long does it take ?:12:12
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scizzo[PervertedMonk] : you would get the iso before the CD12:13
zeedo[PervertedMonk] : that is one of the FAQs which are on the same page you used to login to request CDs12:13
quitte[PervertedMonk] : it says before october on the page12:13
zeedohttp://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/shipit/12:13
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[PervertedMonk] okies thanks guys12:15
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MrTrickuhoh... I broke something.12:16
MrTrickWhen I try to run xmms, I get this error message (it used to work)12:17
MrTricklibmikmod.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory12:17
MrTrickInconsistency detected by ld.so: ../sysdeps/generic/dl-tls.c: 72: _dl_next_tls_modid: Assertion `result <= _rtld_local._dl_tls_max_dtv_idx' failed!12:17
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linux-rulzquitte: hey, i was out of the room, but yah, ill put them in pastebin and send the link12:18
linux-rulzhttp://www.pastebin.com/23448512:19
MrTrickNo idea what it means...12:20
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magiccheesecan someone give me a hand12:20
magiccheesewhat can you tell me about OpenGL Overlay and Dual Head Configuration12:21
magiccheeseim configuring my card12:21
magiccheeseanyone?12:22
shockman I am annoyed by evolution!12:25
shockARGH!12:25
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shockwhat a pain that it is undoubtedly the best email/groupware application in all linux12:25
shock*grml*12:25
no0tichi12:25
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no0ticyesterday I noticed a bad behaviour of metacity during mathematica startup, smurfix told me to view the coredump metacity left, but I didn't found it. Someone can help me?12:27
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MrTrickArgh...12:32
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ciocanelThis is stupid... I can't change my wallpaper.12:33
ciocanelAny sugestions?!?12:33
no0ticciocanel: Desktop --> Preferences --> Background12:34
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ciocanelno0tic: Nope, it's not working.12:36
thuxHi, is it true that Ubuntu support atheros wlan cards directly without any special parts (madwifi) ?12:36
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mjrthux, atheros drivers are in the linux-restricted-modules packages (or something like that, I don't recall exactly)12:37
thuxmjr but they are included to ubuntu, just install apt-get or so?12:37
mjrthey were automatically installed for me12:38
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thuxmjr thanks I'm gonna install ubuntu now :)12:38
stuffhey guys, im a noob linux idiot and i broke ubuntu (xserver), can I get a hand?12:38
magiccheesewhat command do i use to see agp settings12:38
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magiccheesewhats up stuff12:39
quittestuff how did you break it12:39
quitte?12:39
stuffGot the powerpc ver of ubuntu to chuck on a g3 ibook i was given12:39
stuffplaying with it a bit, pressed power button, black screen with flashing _ ... restarted and now x-server wont start12:39
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stuff"I cannot start the X server (your graphical interface). It is likely that it is not set up correctly."12:40
quittestuff hmm. sounds like a power management problem. tried rebooting?12:40
stuffnumerous times, same thing.12:40
quittehad a look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log?12:40
stuffhow do I open it12:40
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stuffim logged in on a terminal screen (?)12:41
quittestuff with more or less or cat or any text editor12:41
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stuffno such file or directory (/var/log/Xorg.0.log)12:41
quitteoh.12:41
quittestuff of course12:42
stuffhmm?12:42
quittestuff XFree86.0.log instead12:42
evil-dnablah12:42
evil-dnableh12:42
Ex-Cyberbluh12:42
stuffbout 10 pages of junk scrolled a little faster than i could read.12:42
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VivekVCI am new to Ubuntu and i would like to set up an apache2 server on it. I find 2 files apache.conf and httpd.conf. Which of these 2 configuration files should i edit. Under Red Hat its the httpd.conf file where we set the servername, server admin email12:42
Ex-Cyberstuff: try "less /var/log/XFree86.0.log"12:43
quittestuff at the end of that junk - there should be a reeason why it failed12:43
stuffOk, I'll have a quick glance over it, brb12:43
magiccheeseanyone here familiar with ati cards and the whole agp setup12:44
Ex-Cybermagiccheese: sort of12:44
magiccheeseXlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".12:44
magiccheese1409 frames in 5.0 seconds = 281.800 FPS12:44
magiccheese1695 frames in 5.0 seconds = 339.000 FPS12:44
magiccheese1582 frames in 5.0 seconds = 316.400 FPS12:44
magiccheese1695 frames in 5.0 seconds = 339.000 FPS12:44
magiccheese1582 frames in 5.0 seconds = 316.400 FPS12:44
magiccheese1695 frames in 5.0 seconds = 339.000 FPS12:44
magiccheese1582 frames in 5.0 seconds = 316.400 FPS12:44
magiccheese1582 frames in 5.0 seconds = 316.400 FPS12:44
magiccheese1582 frames in 5.0 seconds = 316.400 FPS12:44
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no0ticmagiccheese: you can stop now, thanks12:44
magiccheesethis is what im getting with my 9600 xt12:44
magiccheesesorry didnt realize i copyed so much12:45
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no0ticmagiccheese: apt-get install linux-restricted-modules12:45
Ex-Cyberhmm12:45
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Ex-CyberI wonder if I'll still get GLX lockups12:45
Ex-Cyberprobably :/12:45
no0ticmagiccheese: warty or hoary?12:45
magiccheesewarty12:45
stuff"12:46
magiccheesei used synaptic to install ati driver and controler12:46
no0ticok12:46
stuff"Fatal Server Error: failed to initialize core drivers" .. i was trying to follow this guide here - http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=14604#post14604 , could that have screwed with it?12:46
no0ticmagiccheese: gnow, fglrxconfig to configure XFree8612:46
quittestuff mouse not working?12:47
no0ticmagiccheese: save it on another file and then copy to the right one only the Section about ATI card12:47
stuffWanted to configure iBook touchpad to register a tap as a click.12:47
BenZor|Lapstuff- get a real nick12:47
stuffsorry.12:47
BenZor|Lap:p12:48
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stuffnick taken.12:48
quittestuff aha. that'S your problem then. dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree8612:48
BenZor|LapRake`12:48
BenZor|LapTheRake12:48
BenZor|LapRakeZor12:48
stuffshh.12:48
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magiccheesesave what nootic12:48
stuff"must be run as root"12:49
quittestuff so run it as root12:49
stuffhow.12:49
quittestuff sudo dpkg....12:49
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stuffaha.12:49
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no0ticmagiccheese: run fglrxconfig and save the file in another name or dir12:50
quittei didn't realize users didn'T know how to become root by default :)12:50
quittehow did stuff manage to break his xserver then?12:50
magiccheeseok12:50
stufftrying to screw with mouse settings, heh :(12:50
quittestuff without root permissions?12:50
stuffnow this xserver config wants to know what drivers to use howeever im not sure on what it needs for an iBook12:50
stuffwas following guide i googled up: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=14604#post1460412:51
quittestuff dont know. i'D guess it'S a ati radeon12:51
BenZor|Lapradeon 75012:52
stuffrighto12:52
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stuNNedmorning12:55
MM2afternoon12:55
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stuNNedMM2: where you at?12:55
MM2gmt +212:55
stuNNedaustralia?12:56
evil-dnaanyone had grub error 21 when trying to boot an ubuntu disc?12:56
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MM2stuNNed: finland that is12:56
stuNNedMM2: ah, hi in finland :)12:57
involvedhi. Are there mirrors for the software update? i mean.. like in debian.. those in sources.list.. Portugal to be precise :)12:57
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stuffin dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 i get to a thing asking whether or not to write the default DRI section to the config file. I go yes as per its reccomendation and then it just goes to the terminal screen again. tried rebooting, xserver still doesn't work?01:03
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stuff(ive been leaving things as defaults)01:03
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kbrooksstuff, reconfigure it.01:05
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stuffuh? thats what im trying to do?01:06
quittestuff i'd bet you selected the wron mouse type01:06
stuffit gets past that part though.01:06
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stuffhmm.01:06
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quittestuff doesnt mean anything01:06
stuffwhat mouse port do i use for a trackpad then.01:07
njanstuff, ps/2, usually01:07
stufftheres psaux at the top.01:07
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njanevery trackpad in a laptop I've ever used has been seen as a ps/2 device01:08
stuNNedis there a way to configure the wm from command line?01:08
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stuNNedor a file i can change?01:08
njanstuNNed, configure it to do what?01:08
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njanstuNNed, and do you mean X, or the window manager?01:08
stuNNednjan: change the window manager from command line01:08
stuNNednjan: not x, the window manager01:09
njanstuNNed, in gnome, the window manager is *probably* stored in an editable file somewhere, but don't quote me on that01:09
njana little grepping and googling is in order01:09
njanmy guess is it'd be a gconf setting somewhere01:09
njanbut it is just a guess.01:09
stuNNednjan: ok thanks01:09
njanjames@anubis ~/.gconf $ grep metacity * -r01:09
njandesktop/gnome/applications/window_manager/%gconf.xml:                <stringvalue>/usr/bin/metacity</stringvalue>01:09
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njanstuNNed, that might be where you want to start looking ;)01:10
quittedid someone look at the address stuff pasted? i wonder if he just change the config of x or if he fucked up x seriously01:10
stuffonly the config as far as im aware?01:10
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stuff(not that i know much)01:10
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quittestuff ok then. dpkg-reonfigure should fix it then when you give the correct answers01:11
stuNNednjan: think that's the file that controls it? :D01:12
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quitteanyone using wine can help me? when i switches to fullscreen mode and changes resolution i still have gnome bars at the bottom and top01:12
stuffhow do i know / find out how to configure xserver for an ibook correctly then.01:14
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quittestuff lspci tells you your video card01:15
quittestuff but i guess the problem is the mouse01:15
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quittestuff no idea what mous an ibook has01:16
stuffyeh.01:16
quittestuff maybe it's ps2 connected to psaux01:16
stuffI tried telling it that in the config, restart, no go.01:16
quittestuff got an usb mouse?01:16
stuffyer01:16
stuffhow does the installer determine all of this stuff? :/01:16
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quittestuff plug it in. and use input/mice as device. type is imps/201:17
quittestuff i dont know. never used it01:17
stuff/dev/psaux, ttys0, ttys1, ttys2, ttys3, input/mice, atibm, sunmouse, gpmdata01:18
stuffok01:18
quittestuff input/mice01:19
stuffhow do i try run the server manually01:19
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quitteX, or xinit,or startx01:19
tiisetjohi01:20
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stuffxinit worked, and it spat out errors, definitly a mouse prob, woops.01:20
quittehmmm. command and conquer switches to fullscreen properly - while monkey4 and properly grimfandango dont :(01:20
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magiccheeseim back nootik01:21
magiccheeseexcuse me nootic01:21
stuffwhats the command / prog to edit a config file at a terminal screen.01:21
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stuffi might try going thru this guide and reversing what I did01:22
quittestuff that would be an editor. dont know what ubuntu has by default. try joe, or nano01:22
quittestuff reversing is too late01:22
stuff..well nothing else has worked so far.01:22
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quittewhat does the log file say now?01:22
stuffholdon01:23
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stuffthe reconfig wasnt getting rid of some additions.01:24
quitteok then edit it manually01:25
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stuffOk, edited config, saved, xinit, and now ive got a very crude GUI.01:27
stuffterminal screen taking up 1/4 of screen, (top left), and the rest is just shaded black.01:27
stuff(alternating white/black pixels diagnol fashion)01:27
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magiccheesewhat command do i use to see my agp settings01:29
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NgI'm not sure there is a consistent interface for showing that01:32
Ngis it an nvidia card?01:32
Ng(magiccheese, that is)01:32
quittestuff good works now. restart gdm01:32
quittestuff ctrl-alt-backspace01:33
stuffjust rebooted01:33
quittestuff ok should work now?01:33
stuffhurrraah!01:33
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stuffit works. now, what do you know about trackpads :p01:33
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quittestuff nothing. i love my trackpoint. and wouldn' want a pad instead01:34
magiccheesesorry im back its ati01:34
quittebut having it click on touch was great01:34
Pozacstuff: synaptics touchpad - I'm with quitte, but I hear it's fully supported01:34
stuffthats kindof what i was trying to mess about with01:34
Ngmagiccheese: not sure then I'm afraid. possibly the X log will show it01:34
stuffiBook touchpad thing, i just want it to be able to recognise tapping it as a click01:34
quittePozac know anything abou making ouch to click work?01:35
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Pozacquitte: I've just found out about the EmulateWheel thing for the trackpoint :) so sweet01:35
quittePozac url? gimme gimme01:35
Pozacquitte: there's a sweet driver in the works01:35
quittePozac what do you do to "wheel"?01:36
Pozacfor now you can choose to emulate the wheel by btn2+point01:36
Pozacbtn2 doesnt send btn2-click tho01:36
marcin_anthello - I would like to ask about website competition - are there any previews of projects that already submitted?01:36
quittePozac bah. nothing for me then01:36
Pozacquitte: there's still the ol' Emulate3Buttons, so you can have btn2-click back :)01:37
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quittePozac: unless it was combined with tapping, so btn 1 could be used for wheeling01:37
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Pozacquitte: btn 1 can be used, and I'm quite sure you can tap it too01:38
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PozacI'm on an X21, so my point doesnt click01:38
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magiccheeseanyone here have sucsess with a ati card01:40
setitedoes anyone know how to get videos to play in firefox01:40
setitei think they are WM videos01:40
Adrenalyeh01:40
Adrenalgo to synpantic01:41
Pozacquitte: 'Just add "psmouse.proto=imps" to the grub boot options' <- from googling01:41
Adrenaltype in mozilla in search01:41
Adrenalinstall mozilla-mplayer01:41
Adrenalrestart firefox01:41
Adrenalworked for me01:41
quittePozac sweet01:41
Adrenaltheres a howto is if doesn't, i;ll grab that for you now01:41
Pozacquitte: maybe set the procotol to IMPS/2 in xorg.conf/XF86Config01:41
Adrenalsetite: u using a pentium or an athlon?01:42
Ex-Cybermagiccheese: "ati card" covers quite a lot of different hardware with different levels of support01:43
Adrenalsetite?01:43
Ex-CyberI have had success with a Radeon 850001:43
magiccheeseto be specific its a ati9600xt01:43
Pozacdri.sourceforge.net has support for a lot of older (<9800 ?) ati cards01:43
quittePozac as i'm loading it as a module i won'T even have to reboot:) wouldn'T help anyways01:43
Ex-CyberI think 9600 is an R300 variant01:44
Ex-Cyberthe DRI page has a guide I think01:44
Pozacquitte :)01:44
magiccheesei installed drivers and notice no diff in glxgears01:44
no0ticmagiccheese:01:44
magiccheesei dont know if the agp setup is working01:44
no0ticmagiccheese: I was at lunch01:44
Pozacmmm lunch01:44
magiccheesehey welcome back01:44
Adrenallunch?01:45
Adrenalits quarter to midnight01:45
Adrenal...weirdo01:45
no0tic1:45:08 PM01:45
Ex-Cybermagiccheese: did you change your XF86Config?01:45
no0ticAdrenal: ;)01:45
Ex-Cyberor use fglrxconfig01:45
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Adrenalhttp://www.timecube.com/01:45
Guardiann7:45 am here01:45
Adrenalcheck and mate01:45
magiccheeseyeah to the new ones01:46
Adrenalanyone else read sisya's post?01:46
Pozacno?01:46
Guardiannnope01:46
quittePozac modprobe psmouse proto=imps didn't work01:46
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Ex-Cybermagiccheese: if you do 'lsmod' do you see the fglrx module?01:47
Adrenaljust paid out linux, and the open source community01:47
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Pozacquitte: I think you need to restart X and tell it about the imps/2 thing too01:48
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quittePozac no - didn'T help01:48
Pozacquitte :(01:48
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PozacAdrenal: I'm not getting what you are talking about...01:49
Adrenalhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=57809#post5780901:49
magiccheeseon one of the under which one01:49
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magiccheesesory ex which one?01:50
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PozacAdrenal: Eh, is he supposed to be somebody?01:51
Adrenalsome n00b01:51
Adrenala ms whore01:51
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Adrenalexactly01:51
Adrenalhe has wiki01:51
Adrenalubuntuguide01:51
Adrenaland google01:51
Adrenalno right to bitch01:51
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Adrenalanyone else having troubles with msn right now?01:52
evil-dnahm01:52
evil-dnablah01:52
evil-dnai cant even boot the live-cd01:52
Adrenalpasswords sends, but msn doesn't pick up01:53
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Adrenal...maybe they noticed my anti-ms propagande01:53
PozacAdrenal: Also the first place linked to go to for help is here. He wasnt here.01:53
Adrenalah well...JABBER TIME01:53
Adrenali know, i was the one who linked him01:53
Pozacevil-dna: the new one?01:53
Guardiannit seemed like he was a bit pissed at the responses he gets but oh well01:53
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Monkey-Dudehi.... i'm having trouble with mounting an ntfs drive... i have 3 ntfs partitions but 1 will not mount...01:56
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Adrenalspecs?01:57
theinehmmm, glxinfo says ``direct rendering: No'' all of the sudden. what could be the reason for that?01:57
Adrenalbrb guys01:58
Ex-Cybertheine: kernel change?01:58
theineEx-Cyber: yes01:59
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ephichey how does the dpkg command work?01:59
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rubenvman dpkg01:59
Ex-Cybertheine: are you using proprietary drivers? (ati/nvidia)?01:59
ephicim trying to configure mozilla to recognize my java01:59
theineEx-Cyber: no, it's all there I think01:59
ephicanyone had that problem with sun's jre?01:59
Guardiannephic read the info in www.ubuntuguide.org02:00
theineEx-Cyber: I'm using the open-source raderon drivers anyway02:00
Ex-Cybertheine: I'm not sure what you mean02:00
ephicalright.02:00
ephicis there a downloadable document?02:00
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Guardiannworks great02:00
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theineEx-Cyber: oh sorry, i read ``missing'' instead of ``using''02:00
Guardiannephic theres only a few commands02:01
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Ex-Cybertheine: sometimes new kernels break the proprietary drivers02:01
Guardianndamm i am tired of the cold02:02
theineEx-Cyber: wait a minute, now i remember, I have to un-install xorg-driver-fglrx02:02
quitteis there a way to put a program to be run on gnome startup for every user?02:04
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Adrenalwhoa02:05
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Adrenalits like a hundred connections cried out in pain02:05
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Adrenalbut were then suddenly silenced02:05
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Adrenal??02:06
quitteAdrenal that was a netsplit. that happens regularly on freenode and is nothing to worry about02:06
Adrenalbut...i'm scared02:06
quitteAdrenal you dont have to02:07
Guardiann:)02:07
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Guardiannalot fewer splits in here then many other networks02:08
Guardiannmust be the ircd02:08
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Adrenalwell, see ya all later02:09
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Guardiannok later Adrenal02:09
Hwolfugh. The ubuntu servers are slow... :-S02:09
quitteseems Adrenal is hiding from further splits02:09
MM2I have a little bit of problem02:09
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MM2If I mount usb-stick as a admin user, it gets mounted all right02:09
quitteHwolf heh. look at the ubuntu page. mirrors exist.02:09
MM2When I put it in as a regulas user, it won't get mounted02:10
Hwolfquitte, untill 2 days ago, the ubuntu.com servers maxed out my connection.02:10
MM2What setting I should stab?02:10
quitteHwolf until yesterday here.02:10
PozacMM2: Nothing should be done manually except physically inserting the device.02:11
Hwolfquitte, at this moment I'm pulling 10kbs, barely02:11
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quitteuse mirrors.02:12
Hwolfquitte, for apt? I can find mirrors for the iso's on the ubuntu.com site alright...02:13
MM2Pozac: it won't work like that02:13
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quitteHwolf yes for apt02:13
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MM2Pozac: usb stick lights up, but it won't get (auto)mounted at all02:13
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quitteHwolf: www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Archive/view?searchterm=mirrors02:14
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MM2where there is configured which users can mount/umount a usb filesystem?02:16
BenZor|Lapwhere do you change the apt mirrors?02:16
quitteMM2 man pmount02:16
quitteMM2 basically users have to be in group plugdev for gnome-volume-manager to work.02:17
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steffwhere i can change transparancy theme?02:17
ephichey ok lets see.. im trying to get mozilla to pick up on my javascript right?02:17
Guardiannephic no luck?02:18
MM2well... then there is a serious trouble... users are all in same group called "domain users"...02:18
ephicln -s /usr/java/plugin/i386/ns7/<plugin> (-f to force overwrite)02:18
ephicno luck.02:18
ephicany ideas?02:18
Guardianndid you d/l the java bin02:18
BenZor|Lapwheres sources.list kept?02:18
ephicer wait java bin?02:18
Guardiannyeah 1 sec02:19
ephick02:19
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Guardiannhttps://sdlcweb1c.sun.com/ECom/EComActionServlet;jsessionid=06207F54E566FA1D4F7F8E70AF17225102:19
Guardiannthat should get you the correct one02:19
ephicah ok thanks02:20
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ephiccan i set that up at a repository?02:20
quitteis it normal that no icons for devices appear on the desktop, but devices are still mounted and unmounted automatically?02:20
MM2BenZor|Lap: /etc/apt02:20
BenZor|Lapthought so02:20
BenZor|Lapso just add02:20
Guardiannyou require the linux self extracting02:20
BenZor|Lapdeb  http://www.planetmirror.com/pub/ubuntu/ warty main universe02:20
BenZor|Lap?02:20
BenZor|Lapuniverse will give stuff like amsn etc right02:20
Guardiannand then just follow the directions in the guide02:20
ephicalrighty02:21
ephicthanks02:21
Guardiannanytime02:21
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quitteusb disk gets mounted but doesn'T show up in computer :(02:23
Peterso the 'i386' version of ubuntu - will that install on the amd64?02:24
mjrPeter, yes02:24
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BenZor|Lapadding universe allows stuff like amsn etc to be installed, correct?02:24
Peterjust not 64bit, ok02:24
mjramd64 boxes can run regular x86 OSes, it's just a bit of a waste :)02:24
tritiumPeter, you didn't install that kernel I pointed you too last night?02:24
Peteryou pointed one to me?02:24
tritiumPeter, yes, you asked about installing off the archive02:25
Peteroh yeah02:25
Tomcat_Especially in Linux. :)02:25
stuNNedok i need help02:25
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stuNNedlost some of my icons under the Computer menu02:26
stuNNedfor like Home, Desktop, Documents, Disk02:26
stuNNedany way to get them back?02:26
stuNNedthis is warty02:26
Petertritium: i cant remember what the error was, but it didnt like it.02:26
Peteri'll try it again.02:26
tritiumok02:26
Peterwas it on the ubuntu ftp?02:27
tritiumPeter, archive.ubuntu.com is where you were looking02:28
Peterok02:28
tritiumhttp://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-meta/02:28
Peter"linux-image-386_2.6.10-3_i386.deb"02:29
Peterlike that one?02:29
tritiumPeter, you can give it a try, if you're sure you don't want to use the amd64 one02:30
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Peterok.02:31
Peterbrb02:31
quitteis it just here, or does gnome-volume-manager in hoary suck?02:33
quittesometimes icons appear02:33
quittesometimes not02:33
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MM2pmount works fine as a admin, but not as a regular user...02:41
BenZor|Lapis anyone else having issues updating at the moment02:42
MM2How I can change permissions so that regular user can mount usb stick to computer?02:42
quitteMM2 pmount doesn't work if you have an entry in fstab02:42
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quitteMM2 an user has to be in the plugdev group02:42
MM2quitte: there is no entry in fstab02:42
MM2ah...02:42
antec_hi can someone tell me how to become root in ubuntu?02:42
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thenukeantec_: sudo -s -H02:43
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GetHi! Can I enable DHCP logging?02:43
antec_thenuke and how I become user again?02:43
siretartantec_: logout02:43
antec_ok thanks guys02:43
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tritiumantec_, Ctrl-D does it also02:45
antec_I still am not able to uncomment the 2 lines in sources.list02:46
antec_in Debian it was different02:46
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quitteMM2 1500 users??02:48
klaymhey what's the newest xchat version for Warty?02:48
tritiumantec_, it's the same as in debian02:48
MM2antec_: sudo su and you'll become root02:48
MM2quitte: 1500 users from windows server, userdatabase is in windows 2k :)02:49
MM2quitte: it is rather paranoic to use ubuntu and terminal server client to access to w2k server from ubuntu02:50
tritiumantec_, see thenuke's coment above, edit file as in debian02:50
thenukeMM2: sudo -s -H is better way02:50
MM2it was nice to find that tool from ubuntu!02:50
quitteMM2 good luck02:50
thenukeMM2: so have the wiser ones told me02:50
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klaymcould someone using xchat please check for me which is the version?02:51
scizzodaniels: is there a problem with locales in hoary?02:51
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MM2klaym: 2.0.802:52
quittenautilus in hoary is fucked. automounting works - but the desktop and computer folder are only updated when i do something with the cdrom icon in computer folder :(02:52
Guardiannklaym 2.4.102:52
klaymok thanks02:52
MM2klaym: ah, hoary... sorry!02:52
klaym2.4.1 is the newest then I guess02:52
Guardiannyep it is :)02:52
quittesomeone having the same problem? usb stick mounted, but not on desktop and in the computer folder?02:53
antec_I try to open sources.list as root through terminal and it says permission denied02:53
Pozacquitte: are you using 2.6.8 with gamin?02:53
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Guardiannantec how are you trying to open it02:53
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quittePozac nautilus version seems to be 2.9.9002:54
antec_Guardiann I tried like this:   /etc/apt/sources.list02:54
Pozacquitte: inotify is in linux-i386 2.6.1002:54
quittePozac gamin is installed02:54
quittePozac: what is inotify?02:55
Guardiann as root you need to type this >>>>>  gedit /etc/apt/sources.list02:55
quittePozac: a kernel patch?02:55
Pozacquitte: replacement for dnotify :)02:55
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quittePozac in the kernel?02:55
antec_Guardiann thanks it worked02:56
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Guardiannyw02:56
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quittePozac installing dnotify now. cant find inotify. thanks02:56
Pozacquitte: sudo apt-get install linux-i38602:56
Pozacquitte: dont install dnotify02:56
quittePozac. no. this kernel is absolutely perfectly suited for my machine02:56
Pozacquitte: no, it doesnt have inofity02:57
Pozachehe02:57
quittePozac i could add a patch02:57
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tritiumPozac, the kernel should have inotify02:57
Pozactritium: not 2.6.8 ?02:57
Pozache's using a homemade one02:57
tritiumPozac, oh, okay02:58
mjg59Ubuntu 2.6.8 kernels don't have inotify. Ubuntu 2.6.10 ones do.02:58
mjg59Upstream 2.6.10 doesn't have inotify02:58
tritiumI knew my 2.6.10 had it02:58
PozacSo how does he import his .config to 2.6.10 ?02:58
quitteok. it is a patch. i'll apply it myself.02:58
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tritiummjg59, have you seen Dell laptops needing 2 presses of the power button to resume from sleep?02:59
tritiumLatitude 8000 series and C800 series?02:59
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no0ticwhen starting crossover-office, the screen goes blank; I have to Ctrl+ALt+Fn and then Alt+F7 to return to xorg correctly02:59
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mjg59tritium: Afraid not03:00
Pozacno0tic: nvidia graphics card?03:00
mjg59I'll see if I can get my hands on one to test03:00
evil-dnahm03:00
evil-dnaid like to try ubuntu03:01
tritiummjg59, hmm, I'm experiencing it on my C840, and friend is on his latitude 8100 (and D800 too, I think)03:01
evil-dna:S03:01
no0ticPozac: ati03:01
Pozacevil-dna: it's free03:01
evil-dnai know03:01
evil-dnai have 3 pounds of ubuntu CDs03:01
Pozacno0tic: ok.. with the fglrx driver ?03:01
no0ticevery window cxoffice opens, xorg goes blank03:01
no0ticPozac: yes03:01
PozacI don't think xorg is supported03:02
no0ticPozac: from ati drivers?03:02
no0ticPozac: ye03:02
evil-dnaPozac, they wont run on this laptop.. and the CD drives are dead on my other PC03:02
Pozacby that driver.. so use 'radeon' in xorg.conf or get XFree03:02
no0ticPozac: ati released new drivers supporting xorg6.8.103:03
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Pozacevil-dna: get the new livecd!03:03
Pozacno0tic: oh03:03
_KonvIRC_is ubuntu a disease?03:03
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Pozac_KonvIRC_: no?03:04
Pozacmore like a drug03:04
_KonvIRC_have you tried vidalinux yet?03:04
flodindepends on you perspective03:04
Pozac;)03:05
_KonvIRC_precompiled gentoo...pretty nice03:05
Pozacsweet03:05
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flodinheh03:05
_KonvIRC_uses a nice front end for emerge called porthole03:06
flodin"The desktop components are based on the best proyects of the open source community includes GNOME desktop environment, OpenOffice Ximian productivity suite"03:06
flodini just wish the guy who promoted it knew more spelling and grammar03:06
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flodin"Vidalinux Desktop OS is the only system which includes additional multimedia and productivity aplications for the home user incluying media players, browser plugins, graphics design and administration tools"03:07
flodinuh?03:07
flodinOnly?03:07
_KonvIRC_im on xandros here, everything works straight up for me...i like that03:07
Pozaclol03:07
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Pozacthe humanity03:08
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flodinheh03:08
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flodinif you dont pay for vidalinux you dont get evolution or firefox03:08
_KonvIRC_face it, to get the general public interested in linux, command line is gonna have to go the way of dos03:08
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_KonvIRC_that means things have to be done outside of command line03:09
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zeedoflodin: email and web is only for advanced users03:09
GetHow do I enable DHCP logging?03:09
kent_KonvIRC_, i agree totally.  But realy the gnome system tools is a good way of doing some things without terminal03:09
zeedosimple users can sit and twiddle their thumbs easily with the tools they have03:09
zeedo:-P03:09
Pozac_KonvIRC_: Dos is very much alive03:09
_KonvIRC_ture dos is alive, but its dying slowly with xp out there03:09
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_KonvIRC_true03:10
zeedo_KonvIRC_: CLI doesnt have to die for GUI to be provided03:10
grantedi want ppp0 to start at boot time03:10
_KonvIRC_ya keep it around for advanced users, but most people dont have the time for command line03:10
zeedo_KonvIRC_: MS are moving towards CLI with some of their products (ie... win2k3 server)03:11
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zeedoa good system has a good CLI ADN a good GUI03:11
zeedos/ADN/AND03:11
_KonvIRC_im a little surprised that root isnt enabled in ubuntu03:11
Pozacwhy?03:12
zeedo_KonvIRC_: thats one thing about ubuntu that I think is good for the user03:12
_KonvIRC_because its the first distro ive tried thats like that03:12
Pozacno one cares for root03:12
zeedoit promotes good security practise03:12
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Pozacunless they care for the machine03:12
_KonvIRC_i dont need someone telling me how to use my os03:12
_KonvIRC_if i wanna use root, ill use root03:12
zeedo_KonvIRC_: they arent tell you how to use it03:12
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tritium_KonvIRC_, so enable it if you want to03:12
zeedothey are promoting good security03:12
Pozac_KonvIRC_: sudo passwd03:12
grantedhow to make ppp0 starts at boot03:12
zeedoyou can set a root password if you like03:12
jdub_KonvIRC_: so you set the password and get on with your life. no one is telling you how to use your os.03:12
zeedoyou can also get a root shell without setting the password too03:13
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Pozacsudo -s03:13
_KonvIRC_with 95% of the computers in the world running windows, id say that argument is laughable03:13
jdub_KonvIRC_: but you'll learn the benefits in time. :-)03:13
zeedo_KonvIRC_: Im a security consultant, people WILL run under the admin/root account discouraging that is a good thing and one of Ubuntus best features03:13
Bigtoei didn't even know about sudo until i installed ubuntu03:14
zeedoMS get slated for not discouraging this in their products03:14
_KonvIRC_how many people out there are capable of hacking a linux box....they concentrate on windows anyway03:14
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Bigtoenow i have my fedora box set up the same way03:14
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Pozac_KonvIRC_: you know this channel is for help and support and stuff right?03:14
rubenv_KonvIRC_: that's a bit stupid to say that03:15
flodin_KonvIRC_: minutes ago you said graphical interfaces and "vidalinux" are good replacements to commandline, now you say you dont want anybody telling you how to use your OS. You're trolling.03:15
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_KonvIRC_its nice to discuss the pros and cons dont you think?03:15
zeedoflodin: good observation :)03:15
rubenvfact is that windows boxes get hacked way more easily03:15
zeedo_KonvIRC_: why do windows boxes get hacked more easily03:15
scizzo_KonvIRC_: you think there is a count for how many people that can do that?03:15
_KonvIRC_yep they do rubenv03:15
zeedo_KonvIRC_: could it be because Ms dont do what Ubuntu are trying to do ?03:15
rubenvgiven the fact that linux boxes are on better HW and better connections, i'd hack them03:15
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rubenvbut they're way too hard03:16
_KonvIRC_its because 95% of the cmmputers are running windows,,,,,thats why they have so many security issues......if ubuntu for instance was that popular, then they would have the same problems03:16
rubenv(for the record: the only thing i hack is software ;))03:16
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Pozacrubenv: remotely running software perhaps?03:17
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zeedo_KonvIRC_: yep, so they should prmomote security to minimise those issues03:17
Pozac;)03:17
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rubenvok, you're just looking for troll :)03:17
zeedoyour argument is, its not as popular as windows so drop the security measures03:17
_KonvIRC_ya, i agree security in any os is important, but its much easier to go into root when your doing maintenance and installing aps03:18
scizzo_KonvIRC_: may I just ask....what is the point of this discussion?03:18
Pozacyeah03:18
zeedo_KonvIRC_: so go into root, its documented as to how to do that03:18
rubenv_KonvIRC_: it's a matter of habit03:18
ProwerThe point of it is likely to get you all arguing with him, in which case he's succeeding rather well :>03:18
rubenvand not doing it is a better practice03:18
rubenvroot accounts are so 90's03:18
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rubenvend of discussion ;)03:18
_KonvIRC_lol, i enjoy discussion03:18
_KonvIRC_not arguments03:18
Bigtoehah03:19
Bigtoe1992 called, they want their login back03:19
_KonvIRC_your the experts, im just playing devils advocate here03:19
Pozac_KonvIRC_: then discuss instead of argue your lame points03:19
_KonvIRC_i am learning03:19
scizzo_KonvIRC_: well...for the record....the best security.....unplugg it from the net....03:19
scizzoend of discussion03:19
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_KonvIRC_this seems like a good place to learn03:19
radishello, I've just installed ubuntu hoary with kde, but the "K" menu doesn't show the applications menu, anyone?03:20
Pozacscizzo: no, best security is no power :)03:20
PozacOne could still walk up to the machine and steal information03:20
zeedoPozac: not if I steal your hard drive :-P03:20
_KonvIRC_is apt-get the utility to use for installing applications then?03:20
Pozacargh03:20
Pozacthere is no security03:20
scizzookay then...don't get a computer03:20
_KonvIRC_or should i install synaptic03:21
Pozacso we'd better just drop it all03:21
zeedo_KonvIRC_: yes, or synaptic if your prefer to use gui03:21
Pozacfuck this user crap, I'm root from now on03:21
Pozac;)03:21
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_KonvIRC_ok how do install synaptic without root privelidges?03:21
Pozacsudo apt-get install synaptic03:21
Bigtoesudo apt-get instll synaptic03:21
zeedoI think its installed by default, if not sud.... what they said03:21
Pozac;)03:21
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_KonvIRC_thank you, i shouldnt have to come in a chat room to find out how to get root privelidges, it should be there already03:22
Bigtoemissed an "a"03:22
Bigtoe:/03:22
Pozac_KonvIRC_: www.ubuntu.com03:22
_KonvIRC_end of conversation hehe03:22
zeedo_KonvIRC_: its documented03:22
Pozacdo you need a direct link to a faq?03:22
scizzo_KonvIRC_: didn't read the info when you installed it?03:22
ProwerTroll manual, step #2: pretend to befriend users of a channel to get their attention again, and then continue trolling once they've fallen for it03:22
rubenv_KonvIRC_: do you have any intention of listening to arguments for sudo instead of su?03:22
scizzo_KonvIRC_: in the install it tells you what to use to get root access03:22
_KonvIRC_hell no, you would assume that the basics would all be there for christ sakes03:23
rubenvor are you just going to keep going on about this?03:23
flodinPrower: he has some skill ;)03:23
zeedo_KonvIRC_: like basic security ?03:23
zeedo:)03:23
Prowerflodin: Either that or the people still bothering to talk to him are ignorant of what's actually going on03:23
_KonvIRC_basic usage03:23
Pozacsudo03:23
scizzo_KonvIRC_: things changes...03:23
_KonvIRC_but thank you for passing that info on to me,  i appreciate, i really do, you guys are good, thanks03:23
Pozacadvanced: sudo -s03:24
zeedo_KonvIRC_: basic usage is there, as is basic security03:24
flodinwhat bothers me about the sudo method though is that any app i use normally like irc or web brower stuff coud, when exploited cause me to leak a password that's enough to get root03:24
flodintheoretically i don't think there's much difference between the sudo method and running as root all the time03:24
_KonvIRC_and i enjoyed the stimulating conversation, even if you didnt hehe03:24
scizzo_KonvIRC_: you should really start to read what the installation tells you...03:24
Pozacflodin: dont use user password on the web then03:24
Riddellradis: it's a known problem, we're looking at it03:24
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flodinPozac: that's not what i mean, i mean something could be exploited and, say, add a custom "sudo" to my path03:25
_KonvIRC_no offense, but im looking for a distro that the average user can figure out, called intuitive graphical user interface, i build and sell pc's, and i would like to see a linux distro step forward and do that, then we might have something great03:25
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Pozacflodin: or a custom 'su'03:25
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flodinPozac: i.e. by injecting code through stack smash attack03:25
zeedo_KonvIRC_: what do you think is missing from ubuntu on the intuitive GUI side ?03:25
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Prowerflodin: You do realize that the same thing could be done in any Linux distribution, I assume :>03:26
flodinPozac: sure. So in theory it's all the same03:26
Pozacflodin: guess so03:26
ProwerThe fact that it uses sudo instead of a root account doesn't affect its vulnerability to local exploits03:26
_KonvIRC_an easy way to install aps, most people dont have a clue about apt-get cli interfaces03:26
flodinPrower: yes, i'm just saying "sudo" doesn't solve the basic problem03:26
zeedo_KonvIRC_: I thought synaptic was on the default install, if not it should be03:26
_KonvIRC_im not saying its hard, i just would like to see something thats a little more intuitive03:26
rubenv_KonvIRC_: synaptic is installed by default03:27
Prowerflodin: Perhaps, but it doesn't create any additional problems either :> In fact it helps to fix some of them, such as the fact that most distributions don't log commands executed by root03:27
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_KonvIRC_i just learned about synaptic last night myself, im pretty new to linux myself03:27
Pozac_KonvIRC_: check out ubuntu hoary, when it comes out in april it will rule03:27
flodinright03:27
stekihi to all03:27
_KonvIRC_ive been using xandros for the last six months03:27
Bigtoewhat do you think of xandros?03:28
tezemHas anyone an idea if there is a Alcatel Speedtouch USB driver vor the amd64 arch? Otherwise I think this modem wouldn't run under ubuntu amd64.03:28
_KonvIRC_thats a little more about what i was talking about, no dis intended towards ubuntu which is very good03:28
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ProwerIt strikes me as odd that every second time I've been in here, there's been a guy trolling for Xandros :> What a coincidence03:28
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_KonvIRC_xandros is complete and fully functioning out of the box, and has a package manager that is easy to use03:28
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flodinPozac: what are the highlights of hoary?03:29
_KonvIRC_being a noob myself i appreciated that03:29
Prower_KonvIRC_: Do you actually work for Xandros, or do you just spend your time in here to get on people's nerves?03:29
_KonvIRC_thanks for your patience guys, ill stop bugging ya ,, appreciate your time03:29
_KonvIRC_lol prower03:29
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_KonvIRC_naaa, i really am looking for a easy to use distro that anyone can use,  were all getting closer everyday bro03:30
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Pozacflodin: gnome 2.10, stabilization and a host of new software03:30
Amaranthjust in time too03:30
_KonvIRC_we have one thing in common...........DEATH TO MSHAFT hehe03:30
ProwerYeah, you're looking for an easy distro...except you claim to have found it (Xandros), and you come in here complaining about all the problems with this one unnecessarily. Maybe you should go back to posting Slashdot crapfloods :>03:30
_KonvIRC_xandros is good, but not quite there yet03:31
Amaranththe main thing about hoary i like is the move to UTF-8 throughout the entire distro03:31
flodinPozac: do you know anything about internationalization efforts, such as scim input methods in gnome?03:31
Pozachmm03:31
evil-dnawakanai03:31
Pozacnot much03:31
_KonvIRC_i wasnt complaining,, just a freindly discussion03:31
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flodinevil-dna: "wakaranai" :)03:31
_KonvIRC_actually im impressed with ubuntu03:31
evil-dnanah03:31
evil-dnau could say what i said03:32
evil-dna:P03:32
_KonvIRC_the fact that its totally free yet, is nice03:32
_KonvIRC_i always recommend it to people along with a couple of other distros03:32
ProwerDoes anyone know how I might be able to get Windowmaker 91.0 installed in 4.10?03:32
radisI've just installed ubuntu hoary with kde, but the "K" menu doesn't show the applications menu, anyone knowns how to fix this?03:33
_KonvIRC_just seems a little childish not to enable root in the base isntall03:33
maswancdimage.u.c seems horribly slow, is it the livecd slashdotting? you guys need mirrors?03:33
_KonvIRC_later guys, thanks03:33
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ProwerGood, the dumbass finally left03:34
Bigtoechildish?03:34
ProwerBigtoe: He's been in here before :> Always complaining about a non-issue, always ranting about how much better Xandros is03:35
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Riddell14:24 < Riddell> radis: it's a known problem, we're looking at it03:35
ProwerPeople still fall for it, amazingly enough03:35
Riddellradis: you can try installing gnome-menus03:35
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Bigtoei tried the free version of xandros. it is a commercial for the versions you have to pay for03:35
Bigtoei didn't like it03:35
radisRiddell: okay, I'll try that03:36
AmaranthXandros is too Windows like03:36
AmaranthIf I wanted something that looked like Windows and ran Windows programs I'd use Windows.03:36
radisRiddell: yes! it worked! thank you very much03:37
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antec_ubuntu is th best I like it03:38
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Bigtoei use ubuntu at work and fedora at home03:40
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tezemIs there somewhere a repository where I can see the ubuntu packages currently available in the tree?03:42
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ErikHKtezem: check synaptic04:02
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ErikHKin term: sudo synaptic04:03
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Tomcat_The Hoary LiveCD f*ing ROCKS! :D04:05
Tomcat_Damn, I can't wait for April :)04:06
mindphasrthen don't04:06
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Tomcat_I'm sure there are still things that need to be fixed...04:07
Tomcat_(Like power management, which I filed ;))04:07
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mindphasrin the livecd or..?04:08
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kebac_lovecd04:08
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jonohi all04:08
jonois there python support for gconf packaged for ubuntu?04:08
mindphasr?04:09
Lathiatjono: yes04:09
Lathiatits part of python-gtk04:10
Lathiatwhich is installed by default afaik04:10
Pozacpython-gtk204:10
Tomcat_mindphasr: LiveCD + release I think.04:10
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mindphasrTomcat_: ahh04:10
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jonoright04:11
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EvolutionRhow to remove the ntp from synchronising on boot up?04:11
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Tomcat_EvolutionR: Right click on the time in Gnome... there you can change it in the properties.04:13
mindphasrEvolutionR: sudo update-rc.d -f ntpdate remove04:14
EvolutionRTomcat_: which one?04:14
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Tomcat_EvolutionR: Which one? I don't get that question.04:14
ephicok i got the plugin install in mozilla-firefox.. and everything should be good.. but i get this error when runnin through terminal INTERNAL ERROR on Browser End: Could not get the plugin manager04:14
ephicSystem error?:: Success04:14
EvolutionRmindphasr: where did u get this command from which website?04:14
ephicanyone got any ideas?04:14
t31how can i fix .ICEauthority, i have my computer out of order :(04:14
mindphasrEvolutionR: um.. i didn't.04:15
EvolutionRTomcat_: You said on the Gnome Time...I look there's none ntp thing there to configure.04:15
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mindphasrEvolutionR: thats just a way to remove ntpdate from startup scripts04:15
EvolutionRmindphasr: okie!04:15
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theinehi, how can i edit the Gnome menus in Hoary?04:16
mindphasrtheine: At the moment you can't really..you can add to the menus though04:16
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Zindarthat question gets ask a lot now :)04:16
theinemindphasr: and how do I do that?04:16
theineZindar: sorry :)04:17
theinenevermind, it's not that important04:17
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Zindar:)04:19
Zindardon't worry...04:19
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mindphasrtheine: Well, if you really waned to you could add .desktop files in ~/.local/share/applications this is not a hoary bug. the support for menu editing changing is being fixed in gnome04:19
Zindarthere is no gui way in hoary... you'll have to dig trought .desktop files yourself04:19
theineI see, thanks guys04:20
mindphasrnot really a bug either..just no gui for ityet04:20
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tritiumis there some trick to using bittornado?  "btdownloadcurses hoary-live-i386.iso.torrent" never works04:20
badrunnerHow can i get acpi power down to work on my laptop? It used to work fine on debian sid, but with warty it just hangs at the end of shutdown an i have to power it off manually04:21
mjrtritium, you need to supply a full file:/// url, which sucks04:21
mjrtritium, or, I'd recommend using btlaunchmanycurses04:21
tritiummjr, thanks for the info!04:21
maswantritium: there seems to be an issue with the tracker recently04:21
mjrtritium, it loads all the torrents in cwd04:21
maswanat least over here04:22
jonoLathiat, any idea where I can find some documentation on using gconf with python?04:22
t31anyone knows something about how to restore ICEauthority?04:22
tritiummaswan, thanks to you too04:22
tritiumeh, problems connecting to tracker04:23
quittei someone here that has a 2.6 uml running and can answer some questions?04:23
tritiumI'll just download the iso04:23
quittes/i/is04:23
Amarantht31: you need to chown it to your user04:24
Lathiatquitte: dont have one running but i might be able to help you -- whats up?04:24
theinewhat's a clean way of temporarily disabling esd? ``killall esd'' seems very rude...04:24
quitteLathiat i want to know what ubd devices look like in /sys. wether they have a bus they connect to.04:24
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t31Amaranth i know now ti chown files, but users?04:25
scoontheine, in the Sound settings you can disable esd from there.04:25
t31Amaranth i said nothing O:P04:25
theinescoon: but in principle i'd like to use it, just not when i play quake 304:25
Amarantht31: I was going to say... :P04:26
t31Amaranth too many hours here sitting down04:26
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mindphasrt31: sudo chown largo:largo .ICEauthority04:26
mindphasrwould be an example..grabbed it from ubuntuforums.org.. user:group04:26
quitteLathiat not sure if ubd is the right name. block devices that exist in uml only, but are not ide emulation.04:26
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scoontheine, you don't really need it tho.04:26
rjekI can't have said anything here in months.  Why am I still here?04:27
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scoontheine, unfortunately, gnome ties all of its window sounds w/ esd.  so i think turning off esd means you loose that feature.04:27
scoontheine, but music and gaim and what not would still work.04:27
t31mindphasr, amaranth: thx :)04:27
flodineverybody should use the software mixing in alsa04:28
flodinand end this craziness04:28
theinescoon: alright, i'll think about it04:28
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mindphasrIs there a way when doing a apt-get dist-upgrade to stop it early and have apt install those packages that are completed and have all dependencies downloaded? I have a slow connection..04:34
kentmindphasr, well.. perhaps you can try to do "apt-get install somepackage" to get apt to download all the dependencys needed for that package. Perhaps a bit more riscy.. but it might work.04:35
ephicwhat keys shutdown linux?04:35
ephicis there any?04:35
ephicnaw use synaptic04:36
mindphasrkent: See, that seems to be the only way to do it. Pick out a few packages from dist-upgrade and install them..didn't know if there was a different way of doing it04:36
ephicbetter way of downloading all dependencies and packages04:36
mjrctrl-alt-del runs a reboot by default, but only in text mode04:36
quitteephic when you are in textmode ctrl-alt-del should reboot04:36
Amaranthctrl-alt-del restarts04:36
ephicya i know..04:36
mindphasrephic: and why would you think that?04:36
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ephicbecause it is04:36
ephicya but im on a gui04:36
ephicgnome04:36
mindphasrIts the exact same04:37
ephicis there any command?04:37
mindphasrIt's just a gui for apt and dpkg04:37
quitteephic with acpi properly setup you can use the power button04:37
ephicno ctrl+alt+del doesnt restart04:37
kentephic, shutdown can be run from gnome-terminal04:37
ephicwhat command?04:37
ephicc+a+d?04:37
mjrctrl-alt-f1 changes to a text console04:37
ephicah ok thanks04:37
zeedoyou can choose to shutdown when you log out of gnome ephic04:37
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mindphasrshutdown -r now04:38
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abelliwhile opening an .avi file i get this errore xacodec: failed to dlopen04:39
abellido you know where can i get this codec?04:39
matt__hey04:39
hahawhich develpment tool do you think good?04:39
mindphasrhaha: for what kind of work?04:39
hahaC development04:39
matt__xine won't work dependencies problems?04:39
hahaI guess Unix C??04:39
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hahaLinux C04:40
matt__any one?04:40
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mindphasrhaha: anjuta04:40
matt__?04:40
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hahamindphasr,  thanks you.04:41
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matt__?04:41
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Scooterhttp://www.s91842597.onlinehome.us/game/ninja/ninja.htm My 100% ubuntu made game figure :)04:42
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ohgoodMight anyone point me to a chroot type install for ubuntu ? Reason being i have several linux on hda/hdb, and am wary of my /boot/ being overwritten on install.04:44
mjrohgood, debootstrap04:44
hahaScooter, is this game?04:44
ohgoodmjr: ty sir, google should do the rest nicely :)04:44
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Scooter<haha>  yes I am makeing all my game charictors in Linux :)04:46
Scooteruseing wings3d, Blender , and GIMP :)04:46
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Scooterall made possible from useing Ubuntu linux :)04:46
ohgoodmjr: ahh, i like ubuntu's docs already. Very nice job folks. :)04:47
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Scooterperhaps I make a Dragon today04:48
quitteso. i'm now running an inotify enabled kernel. still gnome-volume-manager is not working properly04:48
danielsscizzo: er?04:48
Scooter<quitte> I had same problem, then I switched to XFce 4.2 and my volume control works 8)04:49
quitteScooter: i never typed that04:49
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mindphasrgnome-volume-manager is not the same as gnome audio volume controls04:50
quitteScooter: and volume control has nothing to do with volume-manager04:50
ScooterAh! sorry04:50
quittedaniels got the package working :)04:50
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Scooterthought you where haveing Audio Difuculties04:50
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mindphasrScooter: gnome-volume-manager is gnome's daemon to auto-mount devices04:51
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PitI can't apt-get any upgrades, with any of the mirrors I have tried so far04:51
Pit(apt-get update works)04:51
Pitamd64, hoary04:51
ScooterPIT sudo apt-get update first :)04:52
quitteauto mounting works. but nautilus doen't update when a new device appears. it doesn'T even pop up a cd icon when i insert a cd.04:52
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quitteeverything gets mounted properly,though04:52
PitScooter: I've apt-get update'd repeatedly :P04:52
Pit(as root)04:52
ScooterAh...04:52
Scooterdid you tweak the repositories?04:52
tritiumthe maint-guide package seems older than http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/index.en.html04:52
Scooterenable universe and Multiverse?04:53
klaymhow can I change the destination of a link (via terminal, as I need root to do that in usr/bin)04:53
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zeedoklaym: rm the link, then recreate it04:53
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ohgoodOne other thing- I'm use to emerge -uD world(gentoo), is apt-get uprade      still all that's needed for a completely current system (provided apt mirrros are set to devel or whatever?)04:54
ScooterBTW if you guys want a nice 3d package for FREE, Try Wings 3D, it installs verry easy and for the most part is stable IMHO.04:54
Scooterthe Bleeding edge version of Blender installs and works like a charm also04:54
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ohgoodScooter: you are one of those people that thinks sanity isn't sacred right ? (joke--> blender)04:55
Scooter<ohgood> i am one of those people who believes sanity is in the eye of the beholder.04:56
ohgoodexcellent (: hehe04:56
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ScooterI believe everyone is crazy to a certain extent04:56
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Cinduxbla04:56
Scooter0o04:57
setitewhat enables xandros to run windows apps04:57
setitejust crossover office?04:57
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Scootersetite try useing WINE04:57
setitewine sucks04:57
rubenvcrossover is wine :)04:57
setitecrossover office sucks too04:57
ScooterVM ware04:57
setitei cant get bitpim to work under either04:57
setiteyea that will be my next try when i get my next computer04:57
rubenvit's the same ;)04:57
setitewhich hopefully is today04:58
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ohgoodScooter: do you do any video editing also ?04:58
setitevm ware is the same?04:58
rubenvno04:58
setiteok04:58
rubenvvmware is a different concept04:58
setitei thought you were nuts for a second04:58
ohgoodsetite: vmware= VM, guest/host type setup04:58
Cinduxum04:58
Cinduxcould anyone tell me04:58
rubenvcrossover, wine, cedega, all the same04:58
setiteyea i know what cmware does04:58
CinduxI just bought a new PC04:58
mindphasrIs there still a free/trial version of vmware?04:58
Scooter<ohgood>  yes, but I must Boot into windows to Video edit04:58
Cinduxceleron 2.4ghz / 256mb ram ,onboard lan,soundvideo04:58
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mindphasrI haven't touched vmware in years04:58
ohgoodmindphasr: i believe so04:58
setitecindux... emachine?04:58
Cinduxcan i just switch the hdd from my compaq into it ?04:58
Cinduxnope04:58
ScooterI have not found a video editing solution yet04:59
Cinduxa barebone04:59
[PervertedMonk] sigh04:59
[PervertedMonk] can someone send me a ubuntu cd04:59
Cinduxhttp://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=8132&vpn=P4/1.8/256/300W&manufacture=Intel04:59
setiteim on the same setup except its a 2.6 celeron04:59
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ohgoodCindux: you mean one linux HD to a new box ?04:59
setitei hate it04:59
Cinduxye ?04:59
Cinduxj/w about hardware detection04:59
setitebut my other rig is a amd 64 3400+ with a 6800gt04:59
Cinduxwill it automatically change for my new celeron04:59
setiteit... i love04:59
Cinduxor do i have to reinstall ?04:59
CinduxOo lucky bastard04:59
setitewhat do you have now04:59
ohgoodCindux: i'm thinking you'll run into a few problems, but i dunno.04:59
Cinduxhm05:00
Cinduxi guess i'll just wipe the hdd05:00
Cinduxreinstall it :P05:00
ohgoodna05:00
Cinduxthanks anyway05:00
zeedoCindux: tbh for the most youll be fine, but its much easier to do a clean install05:00
setitewell what do you have no05:00
setitenow05:00
zeedoeasier in the long run that is05:00
Cinduxbah lol05:00
Cinduxim so happy05:00
setitethe immediate thing i think of is the kernel05:00
Cinduxeven though its a celeron this is a big step up05:00
Cinduxim currently using a p3 600mhz / 128mb ram pc05:00
Cindux4mb video05:00
ohgoodCindux: i'd shrink / and keep it handy, make a fresh install, then try the old / and see (i like experiments)05:00
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Cinduxlol05:00
Cinduxi like experiments to05:01
Cinduxalthough i screw them up05:01
setitei dont05:01
setitei like things to work..05:01
Cinduxlol05:01
Cinduxsomething is terribly wrong with my compaq anyway05:01
setiteexperiments is why ive had to buy two 6800gts in the last two months05:01
Cinduxit lagged playing starcraft in single palyer05:01
Cindux:O05:01
setitei broke one becuase my motherboard had a death grip on it05:01
Cinduxyou jers05:01
ohgoodsetite: 6800gts being what ?05:01
Cinduxdont be jealous of my uber onboard 4mb05:01
setitebfg 6800gt05:02
setitethe video card05:02
ohgood?05:02
ohgoodoh05:02
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setiteyea... not cheap05:02
ohgooduhm, you broke a video card pulling it out ? :|05:02
setiteyea05:02
Cinduxlol05:02
Scooter<Cindux> be sure to get the Kernel for your processor.. if you have celeronor Pentium 4 you might want to go to the !686 kernel...05:02
setitethe dfi lp ut nf3 has this lanparty feature05:02
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Cinduxi would have had a p4 1.8 already05:02
setiteso the card cant come otu05:02
Cinduxbut i bent the prongs05:02
quitteplease - someone help me. cds auto mount - but don'T appear on the desktop05:02
Cinduxbah05:02
setitewell it also makes it very hard to remove the card05:03
setitewithout a screwdriver05:03
Cinduxim mostly a linux noob i might screw it up05:03
setiteand i broke one of the transistors05:03
Cinduxi'll be on later everyone just gotta write a comp science exam05:03
Scooter<Cindux> just use synaptic and reboot afterwards... totaly painless05:03
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Cinduxoy05:03
Cinduxi will, ..... when it arrives05:03
setiteyea what he said oughtta work05:03
Scooter:)05:03
Cinduxanyway thanks for the help05:03
Cinduxbe no later05:03
ScooterNP05:03
Cinduxon *05:03
setiteimma install trillian with crossover office05:04
Scooter<Cindux> if Ubuntu dont work,Try memphis and Kanotix.. both easy to install like Ubuntu and Debian based05:04
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setitehes gone already05:04
ohgoodsetite: the old windows irc/messenger app ?05:04
setiteohgood yes05:04
mindphasrsetite: Why would you do that? Don't like gaim?05:04
setitegaim is giving me too much gried05:04
ohgoodsetite: you don't like gaim or something ?05:04
setiteit wont direct connect05:05
makofabbione: around now05:05
mindphasrahh - yeah, some issues there.05:05
bitfooi enjoy pie05:05
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bitfoohello ephic :|05:05
ephicare there any good gui c++ compilers ?05:06
setiteyea i thought i wouldnt mind but i do05:06
ephicOo how goes it bitfoo05:06
ephiclol man ubuntu rocks.05:06
bitfoosplendid old chap :|05:06
ephicgot this all configured05:06
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bitfoohah yeah...why :O05:06
ohgoodhmm, guess i'll go chroot and try some deboot funstuffs. (:05:06
ephictook a while to install java..05:06
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bitfoooh yeah java is not so fun :/05:06
ephiclol ya05:06
ephicbut its workin now05:06
bitfoo:D05:06
ephic;D05:06
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quitteand when i have a cd mounted and plug a usb hdd in afterwards the hdd gets mounted. but it doesn'T appear on the desktop until view the contents of the cd or eject it.05:06
ephici like sudo05:07
ephicgood security05:07
quitteanyone - please. i have to get this working.05:07
ephicbeing as theres no root pass05:07
bitfooyeah05:07
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bitfooquitte can you see it in the console :|05:07
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mikaelIs the houry apt server really slow for the moment or is it just me ?05:08
quittebitfoo mount shows devices mounting and unmounting properly.05:08
mikaelhoary ;>05:08
quittebitfoo automatically05:08
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quittewill i get more help if i try the ubuntu 2.6.10 kernel and that doesn'T work,too?05:09
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ProwerHello :> Out of curiousity, how up-to-date is Ubuntu kept with regard to security patches?05:11
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shockre05:11
bitfoono it should work quitte :|05:11
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Scooter<Prower> seems like every week there is a patch05:11
bitfoohello shock, give them the SHOCKER05:11
bitfoo:\05:11
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ProwerScooter: That could be good or bad, I suppose ;> I think I was just used to getting updates more frequently when I was running Gentoo05:13
shocklol05:13
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shockhoi bitfoo05:13
Bisclaveretoi05:13
Scooter<Prower> they do a full distro release every 6 months too i think05:13
Bisclaveretso i finally scrounged up another harddrive and got ubuntu installed on an old seagate medalist 3221 3.2 gigger05:14
Bisclaveretwhen it boots, it boots up into a black screen05:14
bitfooman :|05:14
bitfoothis is the hottest girl ever :|05:15
bitfoohttp://www.duke.edu/~peg2/sohot.jpg05:15
quittebitfoo i'm rebooting now anyhow05:15
ProwerScooter: Ahh, well that's good...I know Debian's currently considering a 12-18 month release cycle, that's still a bit long for stable...unfortunately they don't do security tracking for testing, so although it's more up to date, it isn't considered secure05:15
shockbitfoo - whos that?05:15
shockyour gf?05:15
bitfoono :/05:16
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Scooter<Prower> I think they release security patches as soon as they fix hole, just do apt-get dist upgrade often to stay on top05:16
bitfoojust some girl :oD05:16
Peteris anyone else finding the ubuntu servers slow?05:16
whaq_i find her hot05:17
Peterdownloading via apt-get at 3151B/s05:17
dudits preffereed to use a mirror Peter05:17
dud-e there05:17
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ProwerScooter: Ahh, yes...that's probably the best idea05:17
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ProwerPeter: Not here, seems pretty fast for me05:17
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badrunnerbitfoo: i like redheads with green eyes :) not many about sadly05:18
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bitfoono unfortunately not :|05:18
Peterif i upgrade from warthog to hedgehog - do i need to restart?05:18
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bitfoomaybe in irishland05:19
dudtaste is like an arse, its divided05:19
Scooter<bitfoo> yes re-boot05:19
bitfoo?05:19
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shockpeter - reboot he meant05:19
shock*g*05:19
Peterok :)05:19
bitfoooh heh05:20
quittebitfoo still doesn'T work.05:20
bitfoo:|05:20
wartyall i have to say is that the gnoppix live cd (w/ Ubuntu) is amazing05:20
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shockman... I am still impressed of those xorg shaddows running nicely even though the dri wont do as I want it to05:20
Prowershock: How did you get xorg running? Or did you upgrade to Hoary for it05:21
bitfoowhats command to unzi .bz2 tar xzf ?05:21
shockhoary05:21
shock*g*05:21
Prowershock: Ahh, I see :> I don't think I'll be upgrading to that until it's officially released05:21
shockyeah05:21
shockprobably better05:21
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shocklots of small things **** up right now05:21
Scooter<Prower> just double click on archive name and the file roller will guide you through unzip05:22
wartybitfoo, tar -bzip2 zxf  file05:22
bitfoooh thats right05:22
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Peter11hours ETA when running dist-upgrade :'(05:22
wartythat filters the archive through bzip205:22
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quittePeter use a mirror05:23
unpersonubuntu-base is just a meta-package and I shouldn't necessarily worry if apt-get says it needs to be removed, correct?05:23
Peteris there a mirror list?05:23
Prowerunperson: I was wondering that myself :>05:23
unpersonThat will just happen if any of the stuff it was meant to install is removed.05:23
Falstiuswhere I work doesn't allow BitTorrent *cry*05:24
shockdoes anyone know any facts about FC3's support for sucky hardware like "vigor 510 USB Wlan" or "Teledat 120 USB ISDN Card" ?05:24
Prower(I wanted to install a xine-based totem, but it said that it would remove ubuntu-base if I did)05:24
shockcause ubuntu shurely wont like those05:24
quittePeter yes. wiki on ubuntulinux.org05:24
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ErikHKpure-ftpd, where is the config-files??05:24
shock(If I get my hands on the salesman who sold this to my GF I'll strangle him with an usb cable!!!!)05:24
Bisclaveretanyone know why when i boot after install i just get a blank screen after it's done loading?05:24
Bisclaveretor does it just not like my vidcard05:25
shockprobably cisdcard... maybe reconfigure X ?05:25
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unpersonPrower, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=12637&highlight=ubuntu-base05:26
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setitecan i make crossover office run an exe... that is not an installer05:26
unpersonPrower, Looks like the answer is that it isn't anything to worry about.  I think that's what I was told before as well, I just wanted to be sure.05:26
setitelike a self contained app05:26
Bisclaveretshock: how does one do that?05:26
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Prowerunperson: Hmm...thanks for pointing that out, though it seems the person replying isn't quite sure as to what it would remove05:27
shockdpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg (or xserver-xfree86)05:27
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Bisclaveretshock: through what? it won't even boot to anything useful after starting05:28
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dudsweet... sticking in an additional 512MB ram gave me a ~3x performance boost in transcoding jobs :D05:29
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Bisclavereti get a blank/black screen but my monitor doesn't go into powersave, so it's recieving a signal, but striking any key, doing a ctrl alt delete, ctrl alt backspace, etc does nothing05:30
unpersonPrower, Consensus seems to be (reading some other posts) that is won't remove anything (except the meta-package itself, which is nothing, just a list of dependancies).05:30
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unpersonPrower, The only issue may be that if in the future they add some new package to ubuntu-base, then it won't be installed on your system automatically.05:30
unpersonPrower, This should not be an issue (I THINK) until you switch to a new release.05:31
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Bisclaveretis there a command line option for grub before it starts where i can type that in?05:36
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=== vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu
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quitteisn'T it cute?05:38
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chibif1......05:38
quittekiddies just suck05:38
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_FR0D0I have a problem installing postgresl-dev, it barks with  postgresql-dev: Depends: libssl-dev but it is not going to be installed05:38
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klaymgentoeers' counter-attack05:38
k31thwat the fuck05:38
linuxboyWhere an OP?????????05:38
=== mode/#ubuntu [+o daniels] by ChanServ
chibif1That wasn't nice. Now I have a lot of windows to close :/05:38
=== mode/#ubuntu [+i] by daniels
linuxboyWhere an OP?????????05:38
linuxboyWhere an OP?????????05:38
=== mode/#ubuntu [+m] by daniels
danielslinuxboy: you're only making it worse05:38
danielswe'll just let it sit here for a while until it subsides05:39
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-ChanServ:#ubuntu- Inviting thom05:39
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=== mode/#ubuntu [-i] by daniels
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=== mode/#ubuntu [-m] by daniels
Peterwhere abouts is the aptget mirror list on the wiki05:41
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VivekVCmmm05:41
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VivekVCI made a friend because of the flood ;)05:41
linuxboydaniels: thanx man05:41
godsmokePeter: hold on, let me grab it for you05:41
linuxboyare there mods here 24/7 +05:42
linuxboy?05:42
bitfooi had a friend once05:42
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Peterlinuxboy: why does that matter?05:42
rotundoPeter: I think he's mad about the flooding05:42
mstI think he's the one flooding05:42
godsmokePeter: sorry -- firefox is being slow -- just go search the website for "mirror" -- it'll have a list05:43
linuxboyPeter: so the mods can help keep the chan from 'attack'05:43
mstleet name, leet host, forum speak and all05:43
VivekVCWondering why people flood this channel.....05:43
linuxboymst: i think its you05:43
Peteroh, d'oh, thanks :)05:43
mstlinuxboy, you can think all you wish, it's not illegal05:43
godsmokePeter: not a problem05:43
danielsguys, unless you have conclusive proof, please keep it off here05:43
linuxboymst: i run ubuntu... why would i flood this chan?05:43
rotundomst: I think your baiting him05:43
VivekVCThoght at least freenode must be free of kids05:44
thomlet's not flood the chan arguing about who's flooding, hey? :-)05:44
VivekVCthought*05:44
godsmokelinuxboy: because you want MORE PACKAGES ;)05:44
VivekVCthom: ok ;)05:44
linuxboygodsmoke: yip, you got it :)05:44
Petercan i just terminate an apt-get dist-upgrade whilst its getting the files, and it'll rollback to how it was?05:44
bitfooif we're going to talk about flooding lets talk about the tsunami only plz05:44
mstwhich reminds me.. the ISO is here, time to give it a run05:44
bitfooba-dung dah!05:44
mstPeter, apt doesnt install anything, it merely gets stuff and calculates deps05:44
godsmokePeter: yeah -- if it's only downloading, and hasn't installed -- it'll not upgrade them lster05:44
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trygvebwHi, i've got a small problem in Ubuntu Warty. I was going to compile Beagle since it's not in any of the repositories, so i ran "./configure --prefix=/usr". But i get this error: checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables. Config.log says this: nasm: error: unrecognised option `-Q'05:45
trygvebwnasm: error: unrecognised option `-^@'05:45
trygvebwnasm: error: no input file specified. GCC, G++ and nasm is installed. Does anyone know what i do wrong? Thanks in advance. :)05:45
godsmokemst: it's a wrapper for a lot of installing05:45
mstgodsmoke, dpkg :)05:45
godsmokemst: right -- but many instances of dpkg are run inside of apt05:45
godsmokeso he could be 'running apt' and be installing05:45
godsmokeanyway05:45
thomtrygvebw: apt-get install build-essential05:45
godsmokeno worries05:45
trygvebwthom: merci :)05:45
mstgodsmoke, of course, but not during the retrieval phase05:45
Petergodsmoke: to add mirrors, do i just add them to the end of the file?05:45
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Peterof the sources.list05:46
mstbtw is the bt tracker back up yet?05:46
godsmokePeter: well ... you should just replace the old ones05:46
godsmokenot add them to the end05:46
maswanmst: yeah05:46
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trygvebwthom: Still doesn't work :(05:46
mstsweet05:46
SackeRHow can i figure out what the device name is for USB Headphones05:46
godsmokePeter: sorry -- bbiab -- got new monitor arms shipped in05:46
bitfoowhats the thing i need to apt-get to play mp3s? mad something?05:47
quitteSackeR: that should be a usual alsa device - if you have driver support for it.05:47
mstthere's fraunhoffer issue in ubuntu?05:47
SackeRIn Dmesg it says it Found Logitech Usb headset05:48
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trygvebwAnyone?05:48
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msttrygvebw, nasm --version05:49
mstjust a guess05:49
SackeRthen gave it audio support etc.. Im trying to get teamspeak to use the headset but not other sounds05:49
trygvebwnasm: error: unrecognised option `--version'05:49
trygvebwweird...05:49
bretzelHi, I've got a flood that opened fukk of channels...05:49
bretzeloops fukk: read full05:49
trygvebwI have tried reinstalling nasm05:49
mststat `which nasm`05:50
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quitteSackeR when you load snd-pcm-oss it should become available as a /dev/pcmX05:50
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quitteSackeR: sorry dev/dsp05:50
mstbretzel, solution: irssi05:50
trygvebwhttp://www.pastebin.com/23456605:50
trygvebwstat `which nasm` ^05:51
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msthmpf05:51
mstsomething is wrong up there... i honestly have NFI05:51
mikaeldoes anyone know if there a repository with the updated version of zsnes ? (v. 1.42)05:52
Lathiatbretzel: just restart your IRC client05:52
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larfre05:52
trygvebwhm...05:52
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ephicwhat do i use to edit my x server?05:53
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mstlinuxboy, I didnt ask you to /msg me so please refrain from doing so05:53
froustI keep getting cron.daily messages telling me about dangling symlinks... any way i can fix these?05:53
linuxboymst: its not illegal to msg05:53
mstfroust, see cron.daily05:53
ephichow would i edit x ?05:53
ephici see the config file05:53
mstlinuxboy, it's not illegal to tell people to fuck off either but you don't see me doing that now do you05:53
trygvebwedit x?05:54
ephicya05:54
froustis there some command that will clean them out? or do i have to delete them manually?05:54
ephicthe config05:54
mstephic, http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html05:54
trygvebwnano /etc/X11/XF86Config-405:54
AmaranthI believe it is a freenode guideline that you should ask before PMing someone.05:54
ephick thanks05:54
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ephicsee im there05:54
ephicat that file05:54
mstAmaranth, I believe it's common sense, apparently long forgotten05:54
ephicbut how do i edit it05:54
trygvebwephic: just write something :)05:54
trygvebwnano XF86Config-4 edits it05:54
linuxboymst: lets both shut up and calm down... k?05:55
trygvebwif you are in that directory05:55
mstlinuxboy, I've shut up long time ago, I don't care, EOT05:55
ephicah ok05:55
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mstfroust, look at the cron output, figure out why you have these, clean them out or kill the script05:55
bitfoohmm :|05:56
bitfooi cant unrar anything :|05:56
msti use all powerful find(1)05:56
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froustmst: which brings me back to my original question, is there a command that will check/clean / for dangling symlinks, or should i just delete them by hand? (I have no idea why they are there)05:56
linuxboyanyone know if there is irda support in ubuntu?05:56
trygvebwthere is05:57
linuxboyis there usb irda support?05:57
mstfroust, there is. You can. The question is whether it's something you really want to do.05:57
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trygvebwAnyone know a solution of my problem?05:58
bitfooyo the update manager is HOT05:58
bitfooits the new hotness05:58
froustmst: I have no idea... I'm new to this.05:58
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mstfroust, generally speaking you dont want anything going around and deleting stuff unsupervised05:59
froustokay... that makes sense.05:59
mstyou need to be as evil as I am to do that and I've wiped off a major source tree accidentally a couple of weeks ago.. not a good idea.05:59
kenthmm, its a bit irritating that the when gnome asks me to anter my password (gksudo?) realplayer stops playing. Im listening to radio and playing abit with the computer. I dont understand why realplayer has to stop playing radio while i enter the password.06:01
frousthehe06:01
mstthey still use that thing?!06:01
bitfooi dont understand how if i extract something in a folder in gnome, it doesnt auto matically refresh and show up06:02
bitfoowhy i gotta close and reopen the folder :|06:02
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Lathiatbitfoo: ctrl+r would refresh it (tho they come up after a bit for me)06:02
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kentis ubuntu's server running very slow today?06:04
bitfooi am thinking unrar is incompatible with hoary :|06:04
Getkent: it's so for me too06:04
Petersb end06:05
Peterdo kernel headers = kernel?06:05
kentGet, I'm changing to a mirror. It will solve it.06:06
Getkent: how do you do that?06:06
Petertritium: i get the ' package architecture (i386) does not match system (amd64)06:06
Peterwhen i try and install the i386 kernel.06:06
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kentGet, well..  if you use synaptic, you can go to "repositories" in the menu and enter an adress of a mirror instead of Hoary. I think there is a list of mirrors on ubuntus homepage, and hopefully some help on how to change it.06:07
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kentGet, I used to have about 200kb/s from ubuntus server, now i got about 8kb/s. The mirror from sweden gave me about 200 kb/s again :)06:08
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ProwerHello :> For anyone running Hoary, what versions of KDE and Windowmaker are available in the repository?06:08
tritiumPeter, okay, I think it's time to find another amd64 user, which I'm not.  sorry...06:08
mikaelis ubuntu's repositories really slow now ?06:08
Peternp06:08
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Getkent: can you send me the adress to the swedish mirror?06:09
quittemikael yes06:09
ephichas anyone attempted to install the newest nvidia drivers for linux?06:09
RiddellPrower: KDE 3.3.2 is available06:09
mikaelkent, send it to me to ;>06:09
quittecan't someone put something in the topic that tells to use mirrors if archive.ubuntu.com is slow?06:10
ProwerRiddell: Ahh, well that's great news :> Any idea about Windowmaker?06:10
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ephicsee when i edit x .. i renamed the device loader, which was nv, to nvidia, and of course x fails because i have to isntall the drivers after it gives me bash.. well i run the script to install nvidia, and it says cant find kernel-source..then it says cant find kernel tree.. and that i can point to it during execution of the shell script..06:10
tritiummikael, quitte try the torrents06:10
tritiumthe tracker seems to be working fine now06:10
RiddellPrower: no idea06:10
ephicanyone know what to point to for the ubuntu kernel?06:10
kentmikael, wait a second.06:11
mikaeltorrents? I need a repository not isos06:11
ProwerRiddell: Ahh, okay...thanks06:11
scoonephic, install kernel-headers06:11
ephiccan i do that through synaptic?06:11
scoonephic, just make certain that the headers match your running kernel06:11
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bretzelRiddel: KDE-3.3.2 AVAIL ? in hoary only?06:11
scoonephic, yes.06:11
tritiummikael, oh, sorry, thought you wanted the isos06:11
ephicah ok.06:11
ephick06:11
scoonephic, you can get the running kernel version with this uname -a06:11
mikaelkent, i found the mirror page06:11
kentmikael, use this one, (I have the sections main, universe, multiverse and restricted) http://ftp.acc.umu.se/mirror/ubuntu/06:11
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scoonephic, and then go to nvidia and get the README for the installer.  Look at the --advanced option.06:12
tritiumephic, you don't like the ubuntu-provided nvidia modules?06:13
bretzelOh my: Default Ubuntu setup doesn't provides Digital camera facilities ?06:13
jdubsure it does06:13
jdubplug in your camera06:13
ephicLinux Kernel Headers for development06:13
ephicThis package provides headers from the Linux kernel.  These headers06:13
ephicare used by the installed headers for GNU glibc and other system libraries.06:13
jdubsee what happens on screen :)06:13
ephicthats all im finding.06:13
ephicthats for programming.06:13
scoonephic, no.06:13
scoonephic, read the first line you pasted.06:14
scoonephic, sorry, read the second line06:14
ephiclol i was about to say06:14
ephicah ok06:14
Riddellbretzel: yes06:14
ephichow do i specify which kernel i have?06:14
trygvebwof course it does :P06:14
scoonephic, the thing you need to understand here is that "for development" does NOT necessarily mean programming06:14
scoonephic, but compiling.06:15
ephicah i see06:15
ephicso i just compile this?06:15
scoonephic, so... you can compile programs that you write (development) or software that you download.06:15
ephicah i see.06:15
scoonephic, the installer does that for you.06:15
bretzelRiddel: ah! gtkam can detect my camera - even manually choosing it...06:15
bretzeloops read cannot!06:15
bretzeldetect06:15
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ephicoh so i cant compile anything unless i download the headers???06:16
scoonephic, i am not going to say that becuase I am not 100% certain.06:16
ephicya cause i think gcc compiles06:16
ephici couldnt get c++ to compile on here.06:16
bretzelThe connetor is USB06:16
ephicbut ah well.06:16
ephicok the headers are now install, should nvidia software pick up my kernel now?06:16
ephicer install*ed06:17
scoonephic, try and see.06:17
ephicalrighty.06:17
ephicbrb06:17
scoontritium, i have tried to use the nvidia deb's but never have any luck.06:18
scoontritium, the installer just always works for me.06:18
tritiumscoon, they work like a charm06:18
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scoontritium, i must admit that i roll my own kernel rather frequently.06:19
scoontritium, so i never seem to be able to use them.06:19
tritiumdid ephic prefer to compile the new drivers?06:19
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scoontritium, ephic could not get the deb's to work.06:20
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tritiumi see06:20
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gruadcan anyone recommend a gtk based runlevel editor06:20
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thrashbargmorning all06:21
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quitteok. i'll apt-get install --reinstall my whole system now. maybe there is still something from sid left that prevents gvm from working properly.06:25
quittebut i doubt it06:25
t31hi, i have no launcher bars, someone knows how to get them back?06:25
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thrashbargdid you delete them or is gnome-panel not running06:26
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RU63PANNIC!!!  i just did a: sudo apt-get upgrade... and now internet is now working on laptop06:27
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Bigtoethat is a bad thing RU?06:27
RU63yes06:27
RU63why?06:27
RU63is it not working06:27
Bigtoeoh, it's not working....06:28
RU63no06:28
RU63oops.. typo06:28
topyliheh06:28
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quittet31 in a terminal: killall gnome-panel&&gnome-panel&disown06:28
RU63when i go into network... and try to activate the connections.. it unchecls06:28
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topyliRU63: how do you "go into network"? the gnome network tool?06:29
RU63topyli:yes06:30
t31quitte:doesnt work :P06:30
HwolfI'm having major dependency problems with the openoffice files, can anyone assist?06:30
topyliRU63: do you see your devices there, and do they look ok?06:30
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RU63topyli:  it is working now... weird.. i just rebooted again.. and it worked..06:31
topyliRU63: hehe. ye olde microsoft "reboot" trick :)06:32
RU63topyli:  thanks for taking the time to think about it :)06:32
froustWhenever my box starts, my eth0 is inactive by default.. How can i change this?06:32
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RU63froust: computer -> system config -> networking06:33
dbt`veritasHi, I installed ubuntu last night. I've got ubuntu and windows on the same hd and I think I've got the grub file wrong.06:33
RU63froust: then click the eth0 properties... and click the box06:33
topylifroust: or look at /etc/network/interfaces06:33
froustI know that I cna bring it up that way, but I want to make it the default06:34
dbt`veritasWhen i try and boot into windows it just sits there(grub is sending it to (hd0,0))06:34
topylifroust: in the interfaces file, you must have the "auto" option06:34
thrashbargfroust: properties > activate on startup06:34
RU63froust: click the box that says, enable at startup06:34
topylifroust: i think others are giving an easier way :)06:34
RU63topyli: ahh thanks for that.. i prefer to do things behind the scene06:35
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froustso just add "auto eth0" to my /etc/network/interfaces06:35
_FR0D0I have a problem installing postgresl-dev, it barks with  postgresql-dev: Depends: libssl-dev but it is not going to be installed06:35
topylifroust: yes06:35
_FR0D0any idea?06:35
frousttopyli: thanks :)06:35
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topylifroust: here's mine:06:35
topyliauto eth006:36
topyliiface eth0 inet dhcp06:36
topyliname Internet06:36
topyliplain and simple06:36
topyliif you use dhcp06:36
froustthat loks like mine, without the auto bit... it used to be auto... thanks06:36
froustlooks, too.06:37
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IorGiehello... can somebody help this newbie?06:38
froustIorGie: what's wrong?06:38
topyliit's weekend again. i wonder if i should upgrade06:38
IorGieJust expericing my first hours of linus/ubuntu. Installations was no problem.06:39
IorGieBut I can not get my monitor to a normal resolution/refresh rata.06:39
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froustIorGie: are you using xorg or xfree86?06:40
IorGieits now 1200*1024@60 Hz but i would prefer 75Hz or 1024*786@85Hz06:40
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IorGiejust the standard Ubunto installation. Were can i find out?06:40
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thrashbargIorGie: sudo X -version06:41
IorGieWere do i find if I have xorg or Xfree86?06:41
IorGieXfree86 it is...06:42
IorGierunning a Ati video card btw....06:42
dbt`veritasUbuntu doesn't put the grub.conf file in /etc?06:42
tritiumdbt`veritas, it's menu.lst in /boot/grub06:42
dbt`veritasok, thanks06:43
IorGieI searched the FAQ's and howto's but nothing about refresh rates :(06:44
froustIorGie: you might try a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree8606:44
froust(sudo in front of that)06:44
thrashbargIorGie try xf86config, but backup /etc/X11/XF86Config-406:44
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frousti haven't screwed with xfree muhc06:45
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IorGiefrouts/trashbarg: step by step please...06:45
froustgo with thrashbarg... i haven't had much experience in xfree8606:46
IorGiei did add the good resolutions while installing. But nothing was asked for the refresh rates.06:46
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thrashbargtry sudo xf86config06:46
iRochaHello06:46
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sid77hi06:47
iRochaA friend of mine tried to install ubuntu but the instalation says that it doesn't find the cdrom06:47
topyliIorGie: are you in X now? if so, this might get difficult :)06:47
thrashbarglol06:47
iRochaDo you know what's happening?06:48
iRochathe live cd runs perfectly06:48
haggaiHwolf: what's up?06:48
IorGietrashbarg: I made a backup of the config file...06:48
k31th'woah mirror is very slow ?06:48
thrashbargiorgie tHrashbarg...06:48
topyliiRocha: i've heard that before, don't know what's wrong with the installer. the live cd is a totally different system06:49
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iRochatopyli, he is saying that mandrake can't install too06:49
IorGietopyli: If you mean Am a running in a graphical mode: yes06:49
Hwolfhaggai: massive errors on my hoary system06:49
iRochaMaybe because it's a combo dvd/cdrw drive?06:49
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topyliiRocha: could be a kernel problem06:50
IorGiesorry. thrashbarg it is...06:50
quitteHwolf what errors?06:50
topyliIorGie: if you reconfigure X, you'll have to restart it. you'd be better off running this irc session in a console06:50
Hwolfquitte: I/O errors running apt06:50
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quitteHwolf: hdd is dying. make a backup06:51
IorGiethrashbarg: I am getting questions about my mouse. Use leave to deafault?06:51
DAC1138im having another apt-get problem. i reinstalled ubuntu, and this time i told it to install security updates, and now apt-get wont work06:51
thrashbargiorgie: yeah it should be /dev/mouse which is the default06:51
DAC1138i did apt-get update, and it got all the mirrors and repos and stuff, but i cant apt-cache or apt-get anything06:52
tritiumDAC1138, what error do you get?06:52
thrashbargiorgie: as far as i know, i'm kinda new to the ubuntu distro :P06:52
Hwolfquitte: are you sure about that?06:52
DAC1138E: couldnf find package "packagename"06:52
DAC1138ive tried a variety of program i know are in the apt-get database06:52
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quitteHwolf no -might be a kernel bug. but i'm sure making a backup i a very wise decision in your situation06:53
DAC1138apt-cache search doesnt provide any output, just sticks me back at a new command line06:53
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quitteHwolf or your controller being broken. anyhow io errors almost always fuck your filesystem over time. make a backup. or better have one.06:54
IorGiethrashbarg: quote: Do you want to select additional XKB options (group switcher,06:54
IorGiegroup indicator, etc.)?06:54
IorGiey/n?06:54
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thrashbargnope06:54
thrashbargi never do06:54
DAC1138i thought when it downloaded security updates, it uncommented the sources.lst for apt-get06:54
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IrITALSA lib pcm_hw.c:1155:(snd_pcm_hw_open) open /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p failed: <-- Why do i get this error when i'm trying to play music with arts in xmms?06:55
DAC1138apparently not. i had to uncomment the lines again. it was confusing because they were all uncommented except one source06:55
tritiumDAC1138 that's what should have happened, yes.06:55
DAC1138ok, i got it, but i dont see the kernel source for 2.6.8 kernel with debian updates. what were you guys telling me about the other day about building a kernel "the debian way"?06:56
quitteIrIT maybe you didn'T configure xmms to use arts?06:56
IorGiethrashbarg: Yup I go get a question about the refresh rate right now. I'll have to look up the correct information @ iiyama.com. Thanks for so far!06:56
tritiumDAC1138, is it working for you now?06:56
DAC1138tritium, apt is, yeah.06:56
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scoonDAC1138, http://www.holtmann.org/linux/kernel/debian.html06:56
topyliDAC1138: kernel-image in debian is called linux-image in ubuntu06:56
topyliand kernel-source is linux-source06:57
IrITquitte, i have selected arts in xmms06:57
tritiumDAC1138, do you really need to build your own kernel?06:57
DAC1138tritium, yes06:57
scoonDAC1138, how come ?06:57
IrITIt's because i have read on Teamspeaks server, that in order to have Enemy Territory and another program like xmms, you have to use arts both places06:58
DAC1138"linux-tree-2.6.8.1"?06:58
piratePenguinIs there a GNU Java Virtual Machine? So I can run Java apps06:58
sandman82i'm having trouble with ipv6 and need to disable it, i've already commented/uncommented from /etc/modprobe.d/aliases and /etc/modutils/aliases and firefox about:config. is there a third place where i need to disable it06:58
quitteIrIT: sounds to me more like you selected alsa06:58
tritiumlinux-source, DAC113806:58
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topyliDAC1138: not the tree. you need the source06:58
DAC1138tritium, not necesarily, i just need the source to the current running kernel to install the xserver, almost like the way vmware does it06:58
IrITno06:58
mstokay06:58
tritiumDAC1138, oh, are you the one who was going to install a commercial X server?06:58
mstit's time to burn the ISO06:58
topyliHERETIC! :)06:59
DAC1138tritium, yeah06:59
tritiumDAC1138, you might only need the linux-headers06:59
DAC1138tritium, im going to try it once again on debian06:59
IrITit's a bit hard to translate from danish, but in xmms options in outdata-model i have choose alsa, oss esound and arts. It works finde with esound and alsa, but not with arts06:59
IrIT*i can choose06:59
mjrpiratePenguin, there are free Java platforms; gcj, kaffe, sablevm etc; the class libraries typically don't include everything you might want, namely awt/swing (though there is swingwt nowadays, needs some integrating...)06:59
mstdo you... HAVE artsd?06:59
tritiumDAC1138, get the linux-headers that match your kernel version, then07:00
DAC1138tritium, the thing is, theres a proprietary kernel driver that comes with the xserver, called xsvc, and when you make it, it makes kernel modules based on the current kernel07:00
tritiumDAC1138, that's fine07:00
IrITyes, i have: 'sudo apt-get install arts, and then apt-get install xmms-arts07:00
IrITbut should i start arts in a special way?07:00
piratePenguinmjr: so what should I do to get java apps working? install all that stuff, or use the Sun VM ?07:00
DAC1138tritium, so what are the headers?07:00
DAC1138tritium, i mean, what exactly are headers, what are they and what do they do?07:01
dbt`veritasDoes anyone here have windows on (hd0,0) and ubuntu on (hd0,1)?07:01
tritiumDAC1138, they'll let you compile things like kernel modules, for one thing07:01
rob__nope sorry dbt`truth07:01
DAC1138tritium, yeah. im downloading them now.07:02
IrITALSA lib pcm_hw.c:1155:(snd_pcm_hw_open) open /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p failed: <-- After that i get in danish, that the ressource is busy07:02
dbt`veritasI can't get windows to boot again.07:02
DAC1138dbt`veritas, yay07:02
DAC1138dbt`veritas, wait, is that a bad thing?07:02
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mjrpiratePenguin, practically speaking, if you want random GUI java apps to work, it's Sun for now07:02
froustdbt`veritas: i have windows on (hd0,0) and linux on later partitions... why can't you get into windows?07:02
dbt`veritasDAC1138: Yes, I sadly still need windows for some stuff.07:02
piratePenguinmjr: k .. thanks07:03
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tritiumdbt`veritas, after you edited /boot/grub/menu.lst, did you "update-grub" ?07:03
dbt`veritasfroust: I think I've got grub setup wrong.07:03
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froustahhh.. .it's not in your menu?07:03
DAC1138lol. im joking. when i erased windows, i still had lots of apps that were windows only, i just dumped them anyway07:03
dbt`veritastritium: i did not. yes its in my menu07:03
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dbt`veritastritium: how do i update grub07:03
DAC1138i needed adobe premiere for video editing, all the windows media codecs and stuff to compress my movies i made, but i made the leap to linux. im happy i did it07:04
tritiumdbt`veritas, "sudo update-grub"07:04
rob__DAC1138 the worst is when you have hardware that wont work with linux07:04
dbt`veritastritium: ok, ill try that07:04
tritiumok07:04
DAC1138rob__, i know. im dealing with a graphics card now, lol. when we were on dialup, i had a winmodem, so that was another issue i dealt with07:04
rob__eeew modems in linux, thank god I have never had to deal with that oone07:05
stuNNedrob__: yeah i have issues with acpi and winmodem on laptop, using apm is ok07:05
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DAC1138rob__, even worse, it was AOL dialup07:05
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rob__DAC1138 LOL07:06
rob__I didnt know they made modems :] 07:06
DAC1138i was practically begging my parents to get a local service so i could use my dads pcmcia modem in linux and use the kde dialup program07:06
DAC1138rob__, it was AOL as the ISP07:06
xvershey...can anyone tell me how to download individual packages?07:06
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DAC1138xvers, source packages or deb packages?07:07
xverswell.. heres my prob, i have a via vt6122 nic and while compiling it gives me this error: makefile:16 : *** linux kernel source not found. Stop07:08
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erik/topic/topic07:08
eriker07:08
xversi cant go online...im on another computer07:08
erikhey, I'm using hoary-amd64 and when I run evolution I get: Floating point exception07:08
rob__me too07:09
rob__its a filed but07:09
erikok, good07:09
rob__bug07:09
xverscan anyone help me?07:09
erikis there an ubuntu bugzilla?07:09
DAC1138xvers, ah, kernel source not found. im dealing with a similar problem07:09
rob__my advice is to get thunderbird for now OF COURSE SILLY07:09
DAC1138xvers, tritium told me to get the kernel-headers, which im doing now07:09
rob__you can find a link to ubuntu buzilla on the ubuntu homepage07:09
erikyep, just found it07:10
xversDAc, do u have any idea how to solve it?07:10
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xversi cant get them through apt-get though, i cant go online07:10
DAC1138xvers, kernel-headers-2.6.8.1-3-386 i think it is. apt-get that package and try it again, maybe it will work after you do that. i dont know for sure, because im still downloading the headers07:10
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xversDAC, i cant go online07:11
DAC1138xvers, sux. thats why i wish ubuntu would include the kernel source and headers with its distro, in cases like this07:11
xversmy nic is not installed07:11
xversDAC, is there any way i could download the packages, then use apt-get to install them offline?07:12
Amaranthno, but you can use dpkg07:12
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erikdpkg -i foo.deb07:12
rob__I hope they fix mono soon for those of us with the whoary hedgehog07:12
xverswhere do i download the .deb s ?07:12
DAC1138xvers, what Erik said, but you need to find the .deb files07:13
erikarchive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary07:13
erikor warty07:13
xversthanks.. ill try it07:13
quittexvers copying the debs to var/cache/apt/archives is possible.07:13
erikactually, I lied07:13
erikhttp://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/07:13
erikthat's where the actual debs are07:13
quittexvers or you could find out how to use dpkg-scanpackages to make a Packages file of your downloaded debs to use with apt07:14
erikquitte: i think that's a little much :p07:14
xversim new at this07:14
quitteerik i think it'S well documented :/07:14
xversany easier way?07:15
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quittexvers yes - hook your box to the net07:15
xversi think i am going to have to get a 56k07:15
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erikxvers: grab the deb from /pool and dpkg -i it.07:15
rob__dpkg-scanpackages, i shall investigate this quitte07:15
punkrockguy318what packages do i need to install to be able to start compiling stuff?07:15
piratePenguinis it OK to use RPMs in ubuntu?07:15
erikpiratePenguin: no07:15
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rob__piratePenguin: You want RPM hell?07:16
piratePenguinnope, but I want java07:16
piratePenguinand...07:16
rob__ohh.07:16
piratePenguinhttps://sdlcweb1a.sun.com/ECom/EComActionServlet/LegalPage:~:com.sun.sunit.sdlc.content.LegalWebPageInfo;jsessionid=BF4672E31458ED0B63F32ECFDCEA83A4;jsessionid=BF4672E31458ED0B63F32ECFDCEA83A407:16
kentpunkrockguy318, build-essential  (or something like that..)07:16
rob__there is a manual about that. in the ubuntu wiki07:16
erikgo to RestrictedFormats on the wiki07:16
erikit'll tell you about installing java07:16
piratePenguink... thankis07:17
Kokeywhere can I find alist of packages that are in "universal"?07:17
xversok erik07:17
punkrockguy318kent, wow! thanks, that's just what I wanted07:17
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rob__kokey: synaptic?07:17
DAC1138tritium, so in theory, after i apt-get the headers, i should be able to install the xsvc module?07:17
quittepiratePenguin: then use a free jre and tell the developers what doesn'T work. they *want* feedback and aren'T receiving enough to make free jres work07:17
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quittehmm i got the slight feeling i'm a little wrong here preaching freedom07:18
kentpunkrockguy318, but to compile things like gnome programs, you will need the development packages for gnome and other packages aswell, but you can fetch them as needed. the configure-scripts usually tells you if you are missing something.07:18
Kokeyrob__, I want to know what packages are in "universal", just to know, I was thinking in some url where can i find this07:18
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_KaisenHola07:19
rob__oh well fallow the link that are in /etc/apt/source07:19
_Kaisenalguien habla espaol07:19
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rob__http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/  is where it is07:19
Kokeyoh! that's true... thanks!07:19
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quitteKokey download the Packages.gz07:20
punkrockguy318kent, okay07:20
rob__Konkey: np07:20
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rob__hey how do you make a dirrect copy of a cd in nautilous? is it possible?07:23
DAC1138tritium, i got an error when building xsvc07:23
xversi need to download the kernel headers... is this the right package?   kernel-source-2.6.8_2.6.8-7_all.deb07:23
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DAC1138xvers, linux-headers-2.6.8.1-3-38607:24
tritiumDAC1138, sorry, I was away.07:24
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thrashbargrob__: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=cdimage.iso07:24
DAC1138xvers, oh wait, you're on hoary?07:24
tritiumWhat did it say?07:24
_KaisenHow do you configure ubuntu for using a PDA?07:24
DAC1138tritium, want me to just private message the error, its pretty big07:24
xversin universe?07:25
tritiumxvers, you want kernel-headers- instead07:25
tritiumxvers, no, that should be in main07:25
mstguys07:25
kentthrashbarg, i guess he asked about how to do it in nautilus, not in a terminal. :(07:25
rob__thrshbarg: its not possible in nautilous?  does this work from one cdrom to another?07:25
mstI am thoroughly impressed with the installation process07:25
DAC1138./Build all07:25
DAC1138make[1] : Entering directory `/usr/src/xig/xsvc/xsvc-kbuild'07:25
DAC1138./MAKE07:25
DAC1138## created /lib/modules/2.6.8.1-3-386/extra07:25
DAC1138/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.8.1-3-386/scripts/gcc-version.sh: line 1: gcc: command not found07:25
DAC1138/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.8.1-3-386/scripts/gcc-version.sh: line 1: gcc: command not found07:26
DAC1138make[2] : Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.8.1-3-386'07:26
DAC1138  CC [M]   /usr/src/xig/xsvc/xsvc-kbuild/xsvc_linux.o07:26
DAC1138/bin/sh: line 1: gcc: command not found07:26
thrashbargrob__ no idea with nautilus, sorry...07:26
DAC1138make[3] : *** [/usr/src/xig/xsvc/xsvc-kbuild/xsvc_linux.o]  Error 12707:26
msta working linux box in 20 minutes07:26
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DAC1138make[2] : *** [_module_/usr/src/xig/xsvc/xsvc-kbuild]  Error 207:26
mstkickass07:26
DAC1138make[2] : Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.8.1-3-386'07:26
DAC1138make[1] : *** [all]  Error 207:26
DAC1138make[1] : Leaving directory `/usr/src/xig/xsvc/xsvc-kbuild'07:26
tritiumDAC1138, don't paste here07:26
DAC1138make: *** [all]  Error 207:26
DAC1138"07:26
mstSTOP PASTING DOLT07:26
tritiumI'll help you outside07:26
DAC1138im hoping that was all in a private window07:26
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DAC1138mst, accident, dang07:26
DAC1138mst, i did /msg tritium and pasted it, i didnt know it would react like that07:26
kentrob__, try using k3b, perhaps it can do that?07:26
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DAC1138mst, AND STOP YELLING DOLT07:27
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rob__kent: thanks but KDE wont install on my sistem, (Broken packages or some such weird error), thus I can install it even if I wanted to  (which i really dont care about KDE in the first place)07:27
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rob__kent: k3b is an excelent program though and most certainatly can do that07:28
Riddellrob__: what doesn't install and what system are you using?07:29
kentrob__, are you running Hoary (the unstable branch)? if so, try graveman. It seems like it can duplicate cd's and such things..07:29
rob__yes07:30
rob__both: running hoary07:30
kentrob__, then graveman can duplicate from cd to iso. i just checked now.07:30
kentrob__, although it might be so that it has to be run as root (gksudo), becaus it dont want to see my cd-rw when i run it as a normal user..07:31
kentrob__, graveman is installable from universe in Hoary i think, that must be where i got it ;)07:31
rob__kent: thanks I am installing it now07:31
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rob__nautilus really should have this feature I think I should file it as an upgrade bug or something07:32
thrashbargrob__: good feature for gnome 2.10 :)07:33
kentrob__, to copy a singla data-session from a cd to an iso should be working yes. But i guess its more complicated for cd's with other stuff on them, such as audio, etc.07:34
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rob__thrashbarg: I heard they used to have the features to create music CDs with it but they took them out to make a simpler environment (its possible this is hersay)07:34
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rob__kent: thats the idea07:35
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dbt`veritasI can't get windows to boot. Grub is setup correct(I thin), the windows boot is set to goto (hd0,0) and fdisk shows that hte windows partition is there on hte first partition for /dev/hda07:35
dbt`veritasI'm unsure what to do now07:35
willhi does anyone know how to get the tv output working in ubuntu on a geforce card?07:36
kentrob__, some way of just selecting the cd-drive in the Computer folder, and be able to choose "copy to iso", or such would be cool.07:36
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rob__yah. that would be nice.07:36
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rob__still an extra proccess thats knind of unnesseacy when copying cds though.07:37
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rob__do you need to be root to use graveman?07:38
im_kahi07:38
tritiumrob__, no07:38
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rob__cool thanks07:38
rob__nice program07:39
im_kawhat are the advantages of setting up a gateway machine instead of having a simple router? i have a machine laying around07:39
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bretzelHi again :-)07:39
rob__im_ka: i dont even know what a gateway machine is other than now i know it funcitions in the stead of a router07:40
mstargh the security distro is slooooow07:40
mdzmst: a lot of people are downloading the live CD, apparently07:40
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mdzand not enough of them using bittorrent ;-)07:40
rob__graveman isnt doing crap07:41
im_karob__ internet -> pc -> hub -> some pc' s07:41
bretzelWhat the weekly LiveCD of Hoary stands for ??? It is in fact an INSTALLATION CD.. But anyway I am getting it and try on my other cmputer ..:-) heehehehe07:41
kentrob__, what do you meen?07:41
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mstwait till you get slashdoted07:41
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mdzmst: we did07:41
mstmdz, oh07:41
mdzhttp://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/01/28/0029223&tid=190&tid=162&tid=10607:41
rob__its said "graveman will be starting shortly" for like 3 min with no action07:41
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mstcant open it, im still in console waiting for the security updates to finish07:42
rob__no wait it says "dubplication will be starting shortly"07:42
mstit really shouldve been done in background..07:42
kentrob__, try starting it from a terminal and see if it complains about something. (i know it feels kind of stupid to do such things.. but it can help others,)07:42
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mdzit's  just a copy of the live CD milestone release announcement07:42
rob__damn progam wont even quti07:43
rob__im going to have to force kill it07:43
mstwhy does ubuntu spawn three terminals and do nothing on them? annoying when you shift the term left-right07:44
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mstmdz, how long is the release cycle for livecd?07:45
DAC1138tritium, im so close, thanks again for the help. only thing now is it says "could not configure X server" and im working on that problem now07:45
tritiumDAC1138, you're welcome07:45
rob__mst:? 3 terminals ?07:45
mdzmst: the same as the install.  we produce daily snapshots, bi-weekly milestones, and 6-month stable releases07:45
mstrob__, yeah, from 4 to 707:46
tritiumrob__, I noticed that graveman uses cdrecord.  Maybe the problem is that cdrecord can't find your burner?07:46
mdzmst: sounds like you saved your session with some terminals open07:46
mdzit isn't that way by default07:46
tritiumyou might try cdrecord -scanbus yourself, possibly with dev=ATA: or dev=ATAPI:07:46
mstmdz, I didn't, it's first install, I havent even completed it yet.07:46
rob__tritium: its possible07:46
mdzmst: I'm not sure what you mean by terminals, if you haven't installed yet.  you mean virtual consoles (ctrl+alt+f2 etc.)?07:47
mstmdz, yes. X isnt even up yet.07:47
msthm.. inittab doesnt even provoke them, why did these VCs get initialized at all07:48
mdzmst: I don't understand what the problem is.  can you explain " annoying when you shift the term left-right"?07:48
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rob__tritium: actually I can be faily shure that it does detect my cdroms because It is telling me the correct names of them and letting me chose which ones to use07:48
tritiumrob__, okay07:48
mstmdz, I switch the VCs using alt-left/alt right, expecting them to wrap after the last active console to the first one07:49
mstfinally the security updates are done07:49
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neighborleeis there no way to manually build nvidia driver ?..it keeps telling me that the kernel header is wrong version..and I noitced that the 'installed' kernel from ubuntu install and the linux-source I got..are slightly off from each other ie: installed is: 2.6.8.1-3-386 BUT linux-source from synaptic is: 2.6.8.1-16.10..why do they not provide an exact match ???07:49
mdzI see, so you're in the second stage of the install07:49
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mstmdz, I still am, logged into another console ;)07:50
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rob__tritium: AHH-HA!  it did need to be started as sudo to work!07:50
mdzI didn't think it even spawned getty at that point; it probably shouldn't07:50
mstmdz, is there KDE?07:50
mdzyes07:50
mstmdz, it doesn't spawn getty. It just touches the VC so it remains open.07:50
mdzbut GNOME is installed by default with the current CD images07:50
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mdzmst: well, it must have spawned at least one, if you logged in :-)07:51
rob__I love the interface for this program, I wonder if they will consider adding this to ubuntu.  It fills some very large gaps with the current setup, and the code is light07:52
mstmdz, 3 ttys, 6 vcs, so 3 vcs have ttys attached and the other 3 just sit there07:52
kentrob__, so graveman works for you now? it still dont see my cd-rw :(  and i tried starting it with sudo.07:52
mdzdunno what would have opened them07:53
mstmdz, annoying but not a factor07:53
mstHOLY LAG07:53
rob__kent: bummer, does gnome see your cdroms in the Device Manger?07:53
mstthats one long list of python libraries07:53
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mstwait... did it install emacs21 by default?07:53
tritiumrob__, strange.  I didn't need that.  Is your user not in the "cdrom" group?07:54
kentrob__, gnome finds my device. its just graveman. Perhaps something with the atapi-thing.07:54
mstok this is official I love this distro07:54
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rob__tritium: my user is the default user, if Im not in the cdrom group its a bug07:54
tritiumrob__, odd07:55
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CaptNemoi need some partitioning advice07:55
msthmmm07:55
mstapparently gnome went a long way since i last used it 3 years ago07:55
mstwonder if it sucks less now07:55
rob__kent: atapi? perhaps. i have to use the scsi simulator in K3B usually and but this one gave me no problems about it07:56
CaptNemoi need some partitioning advice, plz pm me07:56
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rob__oh sh** the buffer is at 0 percent and the program is frozen07:57
CaptNemoi need some partitioning advice, plz pm me07:57
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rob__CaptNemo: I used to be a distrowatch junky before ubuntu, fire away07:58
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mst_yeah07:59
mst_rocks, this does.07:59
rob__what you said\07:59
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mst_however there's some minor suckage... i cant see jack shit in xchat with default color scheme08:00
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mst_and the terminal is black on white08:00
rob__change your nick mr livecd please08:00
monHi, id like to chroot into my ubuntu partition, however i always get "permission denied". How's that possible?08:01
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rob__beats me08:01
thenukemon: and you trying to do it as a root?08:01
mstdamnit08:01
mstxchat sux08:02
rob__Its funny that CaptNemo came in here asking questions about if he can ask a question and then did not ask the question08:02
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kentwhen i run cdrecord dev=ATA: -scanbus  i get errors about /dev/hda is busy. My cd-rw is on /dev/hdc, and it seems cdrecord never gets to hdc..   what am i doing wrong?08:02
monthenuke: yes. from gentoo. it works when i try to chroot into another partition+distro...08:02
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thenukemon: :I08:02
ograkent: dont use scanbus with ide devices08:02
mstyeeeeees08:03
msti get emacs08:03
thenukemon: well, if I were you, I would try to google 'chroot permission denied'08:03
thenukeyou might find similar cases with answers08:03
ograkent: just use dev=/dev/hdc , you already know which device you want08:03
monthenuke: did, couldn't really find something relevant... it really seems ubuntu specific but i guess no one else has suffered this problem08:04
kentogra, well.. the thing is that i'm testing graveman, and it always fails to see my cd-rw. And it seems that it wants to use scanbus to check for drives (it should be using hal, *grr*).08:04
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thenukemon: ok, that's weird then08:04
thenukemon: try also having a question in the forums?08:04
monthenuke: i know, that's what i'm here for :)08:05
ograkent: let the scanning....08:05
ograkent: leave even....08:05
monthenuke: good idea, i'll post there.08:05
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rob__I want my scanner to work08:05
ograkent: hoary or warty ?08:05
kentogra, Hoary.08:05
monthenuke: oh, also i can't chroot to gentoo from within ubuntu. just to make thins more weird... (/bin/bash perm. denied)08:06
ograkent: the package from universe ?08:06
mstergh08:06
kentogra, yes.08:06
mstthe music player just hung up on me08:06
ograkent: see /usr/share/doc/graveman/README08:06
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rob__Instead of using my scaner I have to take pictures of documents with my digital camera :-] 08:06
mstthis is why i hate gnome08:06
ograkent: look for NON SCSI EMULATION08:06
bretzelWell... I think there are many like downloading Ubuntu LiveCD :-) The bans width has slowed drastically....08:06
thenukemon: hm, I have had /dev/null : permission denied problems with chroot :)08:06
monthenuke: solved it?08:07
ograkent: add the lines mentioned there [lecteur]  etc08:07
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kentogra, found it. But thats a very strange way for graveman to treat users,  haha, i never thought of looking there for this issue :)08:07
thenukethat was corrected when I did umm.. what did I do.. .. umm.. I had to mount the partition which I wanted to chroot with -o bind option I guess08:07
ograkent: cut off the comments....08:07
thenukeso you could try that too08:07
thenukemount /dev/hdX /mnt/hdX -o bind .. try that08:07
monthenuke: k i will08:08
ograkent: i'm in contact with the upstream author, trying to convince him to use the detectin from nautilus-cd-burner....08:08
rob__orga: thats cool08:08
kentogra, good :)08:09
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ogra:)08:09
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rob__I wonder why mine worked but yours didnt knet, i used to have to use IDE as SCSI emulation as well08:10
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tommi^Hi. Anybody interested in Finnish country team?08:11
klaymtommi^: #ubuntu-fi08:11
kentogra, got it working now. thanks very much08:11
tommi^right. thanks08:11
ograkent: have fun... :)08:11
rob__i speak no language other than english and I know nothing about code tommi08:11
tommi^klaym, Didn't realize there was one, since no mention in the web pages. But thanks anyway08:11
klaymtommi^: np08:12
ograkent: some people reported issues with mp3 though.... but ogg is tested extensively...08:12
thenukeooh, ubuntu-fi :D why I have not ever thought of that? even if I have seen many other countries have their own channels08:12
hiddeogra. I've accidentally overwritten my /boot. Installed a new ubuntu on another harddisk which I am running now. I'd like to go back to my old system tho. How can I set it up so that I boot to my old OS?08:12
monthenuke: didn't mean to /msg btw08:12
mstwhats the metapackage for build essentials?08:13
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ztonzyweee08:13
thenukemon: heh, I do msg by accident ppl sooo often why I just try to say something to them :)08:13
Peterdoes the gentoo music player not play MP3s?08:13
ztonzyjust wanted to tell Live CD....latest works smoothly!08:13
Peterer08:13
Peters/gentoo/gnome/08:13
rob__hidde: i take it grub didnt pick up the system automagically?08:13
monhidde: if the kernel's the same, i guess you could just add an entry in menu1.st for the other partition08:13
ograPeter: what is the gentoo music player ?08:13
ztonzytoo bad Java isn't on CD :-/08:13
hidderob_, mon. it didn't pick it up, no08:14
hiddeI'm now using warty, so that's a different kernel version.08:14
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kentogra, i have enough music in ogg to be happy. I dont have an mp3/ogg-player, so i burn music from my computer to my portable cd-player time to time.  k3b is not that nice looking on a gnome desktop, so graveman will be nice to use.08:14
ograhidde: copy over the /boot from the running system and make a grub entry for it....08:14
monhidde: i mean add you own entry08:14
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ograkent: great :)08:14
rob__sorry hidde Im better with lilo than I am with grub08:15
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monhidde: you can still manually download the warty kernel and put it in /boot and menu.1st08:16
rob__lilo is the thing I miss the most about my days with mandrake, slackware, evil entity and the like.08:16
msti cant tolerate this gnome thing08:16
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rob__mst: i love my gnome08:17
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mstrob__, hope to god you dont get married08:17
ztonzyanyone tried running newest Live CD "Hoary" ?08:17
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rob__mst; eh08:17
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mstim just being mean for no reason08:18
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cowbudwhat is the longest path + filename possible in linux? (I am sure it is specific to a fs but generally speaking..)08:18
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LinuxJonescowbud, I rhink 128 chars08:19
rob__cowbud: no idea, try googleing it.  what on earth do you plan to do with this knowledge08:19
LinuxJoneserr think08:19
cowbud128 is too small..gotta be08:19
cowbudrob__: creating a static variable :)08:19
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kentcowbud, make a look in C/Python/[whatever]  that makes a file with "touch" and add a character for each loop, that way you know atleast for your fs/kernel ;)08:20
cowbudkent: yah uhh08:21
cowbudno? :)08:21
rob__graveman has now failed 2 cd burning attempts in a row08:21
cowbudwith mac os or what?08:22
mstwhoah it runs super fast08:23
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rob__who runs superfast?08:23
topyliahhh... sauna rules08:23
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neofeedwhere has 'applicaionts:///' gone in hoary?08:23
mstthe whole thing08:24
mstit runs very fast on this box08:24
rob__cool08:24
Peteris there a guide on how to enable the ati drivers for xorg?08:24
topylineofeed: are you sure you typed that right? ;)08:24
neofeedtopyli, yes08:24
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topylijust kidding08:25
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mchanggreetings folks08:25
mstWTF is up with all the music players not actually playing winamp playlist urls08:25
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mststupid piece of gnome08:26
mchanganyone do a net, ftp, or http recently?08:26
LinuxJonesmst, it's probably the format your trying to play08:26
mstLinuxJones, it wont even add the url to the playlist08:26
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quittemst gnome existed before the gnome project started08:27
quittemst err xmms is older08:27
njanquitte, no it didn't :p08:27
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quittenjan really? i used xmms when i never heard of gnome08:27
njanquitte mst gnome existed before the gnome project started08:27
njan ^ was referring to that08:27
LinuxJonesmst, post the url so I can test it for you08:27
quittenjan ok08:28
Peteranyone? ati radeons and xorg, how to install?08:28
njanhowever, quitte, iirc.. gnome was 1997..08:28
njanI'd think that xmms was about as old, if not older, so you're probably right.08:29
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tritiumPeter, see wiki BinaryDriverHowto08:29
njanquitte,  X11amp v1?? Nov 97 -> ?? ??? 9708:29
quittenjan just found that,too08:30
klaymsudo apt-get update && upgrade <- is that the right form?08:30
njan"So I started the GNOME project at that point in August 1997"08:30
njanactually, it looks like the gnome project is exactly 2 months older than xmms :p08:30
FrossiI was wondering that how good usb networkcard support does ubuntu have?08:30
quittenjan hmm. kde vs gnome?08:30
msthttp://www.radiofusion.org/listen.m3u08:30
njanmind, the dates on xmms.org are version dates, so it's possible (a) that xmms was founded before then, and (b) that the first gnome release was sufficiently after that as to be classified as younger08:30
njanit's a contentious one :p08:30
quitteannouncement in 9608:30
Petertritium: thanks :D08:31
tritiumyup08:31
marcin_anthello - anyone can tell me something about website competition?08:31
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quittenjan kde announcement in 96.08:31
njanquitte, yeah, kde's older08:31
njanquitte, because gnome was founded specifically because kde wasn't free :)08:31
LinuxJonesFrossi, >> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HardwareSupportComponentsWiredNetworkCards/view?searchterm=usb%20network08:31
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FrossiLinuxJones, thanks ;D08:32
LinuxJonesFrossi, GL :)08:32
quittenjan. yeah. i remember that time. so it really is almost ten years i'm using linux now08:33
LinuxJonesmst, install gstreamer0.8-mad08:33
rob__quitte: I got about 6 months of no-windows experience08:33
mst: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.8-mad08:33
Peterwhats 'postfix' got anything to do with ati drivers? :|08:34
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mstwhoah08:34
quittei remember installing my first distro like it was yesterday. I was so *proud* when i could use the mouse again08:34
LinuxJonesmst, >> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/helpcenterfaq.2004-09-16.3469703387/view?searchterm=restricted%20formats08:34
rob__Peter I give up what?08:34
mstsound quality is way higher than in windows for some reason..08:34
njanquitte, I wasn't really aware of the founding of gnome, but I was certainly aware of the unfreeness of KDE in my first stages of using linux, so I would've started using linux for the first time shortly after then :)08:34
mstLinuxJones, OH NO08:35
Peterrob__: exactly, no idea :/08:35
LinuxJones??08:35
njanquitte, I started out using DEC machines which were purloined from a skip :)08:35
mststupid patent bullshit08:35
njans/started out/started out using posix-like operating systems/08:35
eimHello folks, I'm looking for boot-install floppies for Ubuntu; My SCSI controller does not support booting from CDROM, the smart boot manager neither recognizes my CDROM. I just need something like the Debian install floppies for Ubuntu. Any suggestions? Thanks.08:35
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rubenvAnyone knows if John Hornbeck is on IRC?08:35
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rajuHi, trying to install Ubuntu.  But it keeps freezing when it asks me the language08:36
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quittenjan my first was linux. my first computing experiences were with a c64. i broke the floppy drives after a few weeks. couldn'T afford a new one. so i learned basic08:36
xsepxhi all.08:36
rajuAnyone know what I could do to fix it?08:36
hiddewhy the hell does my screen go black if I change the time?08:36
rob__I am so not answering eim's questions08:37
quittenjan took me a while from finding it good to have free software to finding it bad to have non-free software.08:37
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quittenjan suse 6.2-6.3 time08:37
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ztonzyhi ?  any one knows why they didnt think of having Java on the latest Live CD (Hoary) ??08:37
rob__raju: no check bugzilla. file if you see nothing.08:37
mjrztonzy, it's non-free08:38
piratePenguinI've *never* setup broadband before (not available ere... I use ISDN dialup) ... my friend, who knows *nothing* about linux, is ringing me soon so I can tell him how to get online in ubuntu (he has bb) using the live cd ... (1) is this possible? (2) how? whats the easiest way to set it up... any docs ya's recommend?08:38
hiddeztonzy, java isn't free08:38
defendguini havent been able to get any decent help in this channel in forever08:38
ztonzyhidde,  opps...didnt think of that...so that's the reason :( ?08:38
hiddepiratePinguin: cable or adsl?08:38
rajurob__: What do you mean?08:38
hiddeztonzy, yes08:38
ztonzyisn't there any other ?08:38
mstnon-free AND slow08:38
ztonzytoo bad08:38
ztonzymany things need java08:38
ztonzyneeds*08:38
ztonzyyes, java is slow08:38
hiddeztonzy, the free implementations are dodgy, buggy and semi-legal08:39
ztonzyack08:39
ztonzy;(08:39
Peterdo i have to close /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 before i edit it?08:39
ztonzyother than that...this live cd rocks08:39
topylidefendguin: sorry about that. file a bug against #ubuntu08:39
rob__the ubuntu bugzilla. if the answer is not there (the same problem someone else has had) then you should tell them your problem by filing a bug. (have you filed a bug before?)08:39
mjrI'd just say that the free implementations are "incomplete" :)08:39
hiddeztonzy: sun is opening it's patents to OS tho. Start begging it'll include java08:39
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ztonzyhidde,  neat08:39
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rajurob__: I have not08:40
piratePenguinhidde: hrm, I dunno... cable I *guess* ... whata you think? Its only new in his area08:40
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piratePenguin(as in bb is only new altogether)08:40
mstuhm08:40
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mstdo you people actually allow newbies into bugzilla?08:40
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rob__raju: all you do is tell them your hardware stats, and how you got the problem to happen.08:40
=== mjr just noticed today that SwingWT (the free Swing/AWT reimplementation) is in Sid, so maybe we'll have a usable free java platform someday
rajuOk08:40
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froustAYnone know how I can turn on tab-completion in vsftpd?08:40
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hiddepiratePenguin: Call him, ask if his provider gave him a user/pass. If not, plug in the cablemodem and dhcp will pick it up. Otherwise, buy a router for him.08:41
mstmjr, please allow me to laugh at the idea..08:41
rob__raju: first search the ubuntu bugzilla for your problem, use keywords that would be sligly inique to your bug08:41
jkkahellou everyone08:41
jkka<3 all08:41
mjrmst, sure, it's your attitude problem, not mine :)08:41
rob__^slightly unique would be what i ment to type08:41
mstwhere is gcc and friends?08:42
mstbuild-what?08:42
piratePenguinhidde: rofl.. I'll see what I can do.. cheers08:42
xsepxi have a networking question for anyone willing to help. when i plug into wall jack, i can not pull an ip from dhcp when using ubuntu. i have verified that the port works, and can pull an ip with other OSes. if i bypass the wall jack and plug into the switch directly, i can connect fine. ideas?08:42
rob__wooohoooo graveman is finally working!08:42
hiddepiratePenguin: if he has adsl (rp-pppoe / ppp) i'd truely advise you to get him a router, and use it as a 'buffer' Router is way easier to set up than linux in that case.08:43
topylirob__: really? good news08:43
mdzmst: on the CD, but not installed, see the FAQ08:43
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piratePenguinhidde: k.. thanks08:43
rob__topyli: i just hope i can recreate my success (i had 3 failed burnings in a row)08:44
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mstsweet08:45
topylirob__: it used to have terrible problems with either non-ascii characters, or directory names with spaces in them. i know both are wrong but gnome is supposed to be utf and dammit, a gnome program (sound-juicer) created those directories :)08:45
Peterwill ubuntu function correctly without ubuntu-base and ubuntu-desktop?08:46
rob__topyli lol that anoying08:46
rob__it will funciton without ubuntu-desktop thats just a progam that keeps track of what crap you have installed08:47
mjrPeter, they only affect upgrades, not the basic working of the OS08:47
topyliPeter: yes, they are just dummy packages that depend on others, to make it easier to install collections of useful stuff08:47
Peterok, cool08:47
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rob__Hey does anyone here own a copy of MythII for linux?08:50
rob__I have it but cant install it, but Civ II -Call to Power works fine08:50
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setitedoes ext2 suck08:51
rob__it does08:51
setiteevery so often when i come back to my computer the screen is buggered... all sorts of colored lines08:51
setiteand i have to shut it off and wait.. or restart it like 10 times08:51
rob__thats not ext2s fault08:51
setitesomeone told me that it was because of ext2...08:51
setitewell not that per se08:51
setitebut a similar issue after a power loss08:51
rob__its possible but not likely08:52
setitewell something on this thing sucks08:52
rob__lol (i have a dirty mind about what thing your talking about, and whats on it sucking)08:52
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mstno dirtier than mine08:53
msti post on b0g.org08:53
drspinhow can I get a list of currently running processes?08:53
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setiteapplications -- system tools -- system monitor08:53
rob__lol08:54
rob__i did not know b0g existed08:54
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rajuDamn, I just wanna install Ubuntu :(08:55
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smurfslaythen do so, raju08:56
rajuI'm trying, it keeps freezing08:57
drspinok I have the HOARY LIVECD ISO --- no how do I burn the ISO to a CD without having to first mount the ISO?08:57
rajuWhen it asks me for the language, it just freezes08:57
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kebac_drspin: using windows or linux?08:57
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drspinkebac_: Wartry08:57
drspin*Warty08:57
kebac_drspin: in linux there is program called cdburn or burncd or something like that08:58
neighborleeis there no way to manually build nvidia driver ?..it keeps telling me that the kernel header is wrong version..and I noitced that the 'installed' kernel from ubuntu install and the linux-source I got..are slightly off from each other ie: installed is: 2.6.8.1-3-386 BUT linux-source from synaptic is: 2.6.8.1-16.10..anyone know why ubuntu doesn't provide kenrel source exact match for default installed one ?? ;-))thx...08:58
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drspinI hate it that I have to use k3b to perform basic burning tasks like burning an ISO image08:59
drspinor burning an audio CD --08:59
XBLHi!08:59
pisukedrspin, burning an iso is easy from nautilus. just use the right mouse button :)09:00
jp_awaydrspin, right click the .ISO images and choose create CD. it should attempt to clean up the CDRW before writting to it09:00
drspinpisuke: really???????????09:01
XBLJust ordered a couple cd's to hand out in my computer science class (whatever it is in english ;-)). But since I'm sure some will be interested in a netinstall: is it possible to preform some kind of netinstall, by only buring a simple cd (or even a floppy)?09:01
pisukeaudio is another history09:01
drspinjp_away: cool!09:01
jp_awayI've burned around 10 .ISOs using just that :P09:01
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drspinWOW -- I remember though that if the file extension is capital, as in "ISO" it doesn't work ;)09:01
drspinthis one isn't but I have others that are...09:02
drspinI burn so fast under linux -- averaging 20x whereas on windows it would only do around 15-16x09:03
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topyliXBL: i don't think ubuntu has a net install option. you need debian09:04
topyliXBL: ubuntu is just one cd though09:05
XBLthnx. I know debian has that option... which rocks.09:05
rajuWhat's the difference between just Debian and Ubuntu?09:05
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XBLTrue, but I (and some guys in class who are running linux) appreciate downloading the newst version right away. Or installing with only a floppy drive.09:06
topyliraju: ubuntu freezes debian unstable every 6 months and makes a stable release09:06
XBLUbuntu is up to date, raju :-)09:06
klaymis there something else than gstreamer and w32codecs I need to install to make totem accept all video formats?09:06
drspinraju: Ubuntu is based on Debian.. meaning ubuntu makes improvements upon debian09:06
rajuIt sounds great, now if it would just install on my computer!  :)09:07
XBLWhat probs are you having?09:07
stuNNedok so livecd boots ok but default res at 640x480 with nv driver09:07
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stuNNednew hoary livecd09:07
drspinraju: try reburning the CD and see if that helps...09:07
drspinraju: you may have burned a functional coaster...09:08
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_d4vidky all09:08
drspin brb - going to test Hoary LiveCD09:08
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thuxHi, can't remove X mouse cursor with Option "HwCursor" "false" or "SWCursor" "true", is there any other ways?09:09
Sirius_Blackhi guys - can someone tell me how to install java vm on my ubuntu system09:09
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jp_awaySirius, download it from http://java.sun.com do you know how to do it to get the .bin from there?09:10
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Sirius_Blackjp_away: aha i c09:10
chrismurfWith gnome 2.8 + Ubuntu Hoary - all of the applications on my panel at the bottom of the screen insist on shrinking to be very narrow.  When I only have like 2 windows, why do they do this??  Can it be fixed?09:10
pisukeSirius_Black, http://ubuntuguide.org/09:10
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Sirius_Blacki thought there was something simpler than that09:10
MrTrickjp_away, is that to install the JRE for mozilla?09:10
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fabianSirius_Black, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java09:11
klaymand here: ubuntuguide.org09:11
Sirius_Blackfabian: tnx mate09:11
klaymdoh, late09:11
ufo-hi, I have this problem.. I can't ping myself by pinging 127.0.0.1 nor with my static addres on eth1 - 10.0.0.1, when I try to restart /etc/networking i get this... rp_filter.09:11
ufo- * Reconfiguring network interfaces...                                   [fail] 09:11
Sirius_Blackguys - i am not gettign framebuffered consoles - any ide how to sort this one out please09:12
Sirius_Black*idea09:12
jcoxon77chrissmurf: i had the same problem, at the end of the bar on the left side after the button to minimise all windows there is a bar. Right click on this and you can change the settings09:12
chrismurfah - thanks jcoxon09:13
ufo-can anyone help?09:14
chrismurfwhat do I want to change in there?  I see them, but it's non-obvious which is right09:14
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Sirius_Blacki mean in /boot/grub/menu.lst i have the option vga=791 but at the beginign of boot-up it asks me to either press enter for the choise of available (unbuffered) options or press space to carry on with unbiffered default option09:14
chrismurfjcoxon77, AH - got it thnx09:15
fabianSirius_Black, and with other vesa modes (like 788), have you tried? (maybe your hardware can't work in that mode)09:16
martyrufo-: sudo ifconfig09:16
jcoxon77chrismurf: cool09:16
martyrufo-: does an "lo" device get listed?09:16
Peteri've installed the /sb end09:16
Peterooo, mangled.09:16
ufo-martyr, nope no lo09:16
Sirius_Blackfabian: it definetely can work with 79109:16
Sirius_Blacki mean i had suse9.2 on this machine before i put ubuntu09:17
martyrufo-: then this is why you can't ping yourself. hang on a second09:17
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ufo-yeah i noticed that.. but i cant even bring up lo09:17
Sirius_Blackfabian: is vga=788 800x600?09:17
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ufo-it says that i have to few parametars09:17
ufo-*too09:17
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martyrufo-: try "sudo ifconfig lo up" for a start. or is this when it said you lack parameters?09:18
ufo-yup09:18
ufo-thats the one09:18
Peterhow would i reload xorg?09:18
alexraitI upgraded my ubuntu (I have hoary sources) and it installed a new kernel. So I wanted to modify the grub settings for that, but I couldn't find the new kernel anyway... dpkg -l | grep linux-image finds it installed...09:18
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ufo-can you paste the part for lo from your /etc/network/interfaces?09:18
alexraitanywere*09:18
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martyrufo-: second09:19
ufo-don't know how this got messy..09:19
chrismurfPeter, press CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE09:19
chrismurfafter logging out of gnome09:19
tritiumalexrait, that should have been done automatically when the new kernel was installed09:19
ufo-martyr, k09:19
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martyr# The loopback network interface09:19
martyrauto lo09:19
martyriface lo inet loopback09:19
alexraittritium, In the boot folder, I still see the old image...09:19
alexraittritium, how can I see where dpkg has installed the new version?09:20
ufo-martyr, I have just the same in my file09:20
ufo-:\09:20
hiddeI'm getting I/O errors in apt-get. Can anyone help me?09:20
martyrufo-: did you compile your kernel yourself?09:20
tritiumalexrait, "dpkg -L packagename" will list all the files in packagename09:20
ufo-martyr, nope09:21
ufo-updated it with synaptic09:21
martyrwhich package did you install?09:21
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ufo-k709:21
martyr"linux-k7"?09:21
ufo-thyes09:21
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ufo-yes09:21
martyrokay09:21
martyrand did you recently change any network configuration?09:22
ufo-nope.. I just disabled the part for my wifi card09:22
jkkaim alla k709:22
hiddeHow do I generate /var/lib/dpkg/available?09:22
jkkaall09:22
jkkawokrs fine09:22
martyrjust "ifconfig wlan0 (resp. eth1) down"?09:23
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jkkasorry for the typos, a bit drunk noe09:23
jkkanow09:23
jkkavery sorry09:23
ufo-nope, i did it in /etc/network/interfaces09:24
FrossiI installed ubuntu to my friends computer today, some applications are in swedish like screensaver and apt-get mostly, but it was installed in finnish language. I don't have that problem and im also using ubuntu in finnish language. any ideas? I know it's not wery serious problem but still I would like to get it to at least in english.09:24
ufo-just commented out the part for the wifi card09:24
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martyrufo-: well if this was what you did before the error occured, the first step would be to try setting everything back09:24
ufo-tried that already09:25
ufo-no results09:25
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veritasw00t, just got done installing ubuntu09:25
hiddeMy /var/lib/dpkg/available seems to be corrupt, how can I fix it?09:25
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ufo-this is just great.. a unsolvable problem09:26
ufo-:)09:26
|QuaD-any strong c++ programmers here?09:26
Peterwhats the way to tell what video driver you're running?09:26
martyr|QuaD: depends ;)09:26
martyrufo-: mhm... the solution just knows how to hide ;)09:27
|QuaD-i am running out of resources :) i need to time something to the nearest millisecont using ctime.h and the time() function09:27
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|QuaD-according to my professor it is possible to do, doesn't want us using clock09:27
|QuaD-any suggestions?09:27
ufo-martyr, its all the same.. still doesnt works :)09:27
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martyr|QuaD-: you could try using the microprocessor timer directly09:28
MrTrickArgh, my computer's acting screwy.09:28
|QuaD-martyr: he wants us to use time()09:28
martyr|QuaD-: i don't know how, though, but it must be possible in a way09:28
|QuaD-martyr: after we hand it in we get the solution key :009:29
MrTrickXMMS doesn't run anymore, and Mozilla randomly crashes or closes09:29
|QuaD-i just wnat to get it right :)09:29
martyr|QuaD-: okay, give me a second09:29
|QuaD-martyr: k09:29
martyr|QuaD-: _only_ time() ?09:29
|QuaD-martyr: yup09:30
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Phineaswtf09:30
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martyr|QuaD-: erm... but time() gives you a unix timestamp. without any other way to measure time more accurately, this is impossible o_O09:31
Peter09:31
|QuaD-martyr: that seems to be the consensus09:31
drspinmmmm Hoary LiveCD --09:31
martyr*g*09:31
|QuaD-i guess i have to wait for the answer key09:31
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elvirolohi all!09:31
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darklingI suppose you could busy-wait, do timings (looking for increments in the seconds-counter, and work out a multiplier to give you the number of loops per millisecond.09:31
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martyrdarkling: that would require another means of measuring time, wouldn't it?09:32
darklingNope.09:32
darklingYou loop repeatedly in a tight loop, reading the time().09:33
martyrah, damn, of course not09:33
darklingCount the number of loops for one second.09:33
martyryeah, you're right of course09:33
darkling... etc...09:33
martyrthen divide by 100009:33
darklingIt's ugly, and potentially unreliable, but it'll work.09:33
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martyrdepends on system load, too. but i can't think of anything else either09:34
martyrso |QuaD-, there you go ;)09:34
drspinI'm considering a dist-upgrade to Hoary --09:34
drspinis this wise?09:34
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darklingdrspin: It's given me no problems so far.09:35
drspindakling...09:35
drspindarkling: unfortunately is has given others LOTS of problems...09:35
drspinI'm just a pussy and I'm scared... LOL09:35
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amiroffhello people, I just upgraded to hoary and have a small problem, everything went fine but now X won't start when nvidia driver is selected, nv works fine09:36
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drspinpoint proven ;)09:36
darklingThe only way you'll find out is to try it.09:36
amirofferror says could not load Glcore09:36
tritiumamiroff, comment that line out in /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:37
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tritiumamiroff, and the "dri" module as well09:37
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elviroloa strange problem occurs on my hoary installation : Firefox segfaults after a few seconds' browsing, and thunderbird also segfaults, but before even starting up properly ... the really weird part is that it happens not only with the official packages but also with the binaries from mozilla.org ...09:37
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elvirolocan anyone help me ?09:37
amirofftritium: there is no xorg.conf in /etc/X1109:38
drspinelvirolo: what is your problem?09:38
tritiumamiroff, you have Hoary, but no xorg?09:38
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elvirolodrspin, well ... FF and TB both segfault ...09:38
drspinelvirolo: warty or Hoary?09:38
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amirofftritium: yes, that is interesting, only XF86Config-409:39
elvirolodrspin, Hoary ...09:39
tritiumamiroff, is xserver-xorg installed?09:39
jacohi all09:39
martyramiroff "ls /etc/X11 | grep '.*\.conf'"09:39
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jaco:) yawwwnNNN09:39
drspinelvirolo: were you using any backports on warty?09:39
elvirolodrspin, no09:39
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mohamed_test09:40
elvirolodrspin, but, as I already said, the problem also occurs with the mozilla.org binaries ..09:40
drspinelvirolo: the only thing that I can think of, and I'm not very good at this, is that one of the libraries that the two share is broken...09:40
tritiumamiroff, if it's installed, then you should try "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"09:40
amirofftritium: The following packages will be REMOVED:09:41
amiroff  xfree86-driver-synaptics xserver-xfree8609:41
amiroffThe following NEW packages will be installed:09:41
amiroff  xserver-xorg09:41
amiroff0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 2 to remove and 1 not upgraded.09:41
amiroffNeed to get 6382kB of archives.09:41
elvirolodrspin, ah, I see :(09:41
tritiumamiroff, that should have happened when you upgraded to Hoary.  go ahead and allow it09:41
drspinelvirolo: sorry I can't be more help...09:41
elvirolodrspin, no no don't !09:41
amirofftritium: ok :)09:41
SkegHello! Just trying to get to grips with Ubuntu after being a Windows user for years. I have a Netgear MA111 USB wireless network adapter. Can anyone point me in the right direction to install it?09:42
drspinelvirolo: did you happen to do any checking into where it segfaults at?09:42
elvirolodrspin, it's a good idea, i'll check it out09:42
martyrSkeg: sudo ifconfig, tell me what you get :)09:42
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amirofftritium: why wasn't it installed when dist-upgrading ?09:42
FazerHello, I have a problem booting Ubuntu Live CD on my laptop09:43
tritiumamiroff, not sure09:43
Fazerit says kernel panick09:43
Fazerand it just hangs up in there09:43
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ubuntuhi folks09:43
FazerHi09:43
amirofftritium: ok, so after xorg is installed what should I do to get nvidia work again?09:43
Fazerubuntu: Can you help me with a problem?09:43
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ubuntui just tried out the new ubuntu live cd and recognized that when i do su i have to type a password. does anybody know what this is?09:44
mstsudo -s09:44
mstnot su09:44
tritiumamiroff, it should work.  If not, make sure that in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, the following Modules are not being loaded: GLcore & dri09:44
martyrubuntu: use "sudo whatever"09:44
ubuntuFazer, just ask09:44
ubuntuah ok, thank you guys :)09:45
tritiumamiroff, you already had nvidia working in Warty?09:45
martyrubuntu: when it asks for a password, provide your user password09:45
MrTrickHmm, I have a problem here. When I run mozilla, after a certain amount of time it does this: "[2] +  Segmentation fault      mozilla" and dies.09:45
amirofftritium: yep09:45
drspinubuntu: you CAN set a password for su but you have to read on the Wiki how to do it... if you can't find it then you don't need to be using su ;)09:45
tritiumamiroff, okay, so we should be in good shape09:45
Skegmartyr, Thanks for your help. I get two entries with a load of details. One is eth0 the PCI network card. The other is lo the loopback adapter. Do you want more detailed info?09:45
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amirofftritium: ok, so I am commenting those 2 lines09:45
drspinubuntu: I reccomend using sudo -- takes some getting used to but it's a really nice way of doing things...09:45
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ubuntubut this is a live cd i have i dont want to set a password09:46
tritiumamiroff, yes09:46
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martyrSkeg: did it recognize your wlan adapter whilst the installation?09:46
ubuntui'm just trying out ubuntu for the 1st time09:46
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drspinubuntu: then just use sudo09:46
drspinubuntu: man sudo <- in case you're not sure how it works09:46
bitfooanyone here use unrar on hoary :|09:46
ubuntudrspin, i did sudo -s and it worked :)09:46
ubuntunow i'm root.....now i got POWER :)09:46
Fazerhow do I boot the live cd so it doesn't probe all my harwware?09:47
Fazerlike, using the tag noprobe09:47
Fazeror something or whatever09:47
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MrTrickDoh...09:47
LinuxJonesSkeg, the modules are appear to be available in Ubuntu already "prism2_usb". Here's a tutorial >> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/answers/23909:48
Fazerk, so I guess no one knows the answer09:48
amirofftritium: gonna restart x :) thanks for help09:48
martyrFazer: boot from cd. when you see a prompt, press F2 and have a look at the list of possible parameters09:48
tritiumamiroff, sure09:48
MrTrickI ran apt-get install mozilla, and halfway through checking dependencies, the ENTIRE system locked up.09:48
Skegmartyr, no, not that I noticed. It was plugged in however. I did get an error like this... modprobe error inserting pciehp and also a similar error for shpchp. I tried reinstalling, but still got the same error.09:48
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Fazermartyr: Thx, I'll do that09:48
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Fazermartyr: This is the Live CD that you are talking about, right?09:49
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martyrSkeg: as LinuxJones said, the prism2_* drivers should do the job09:49
ubuntuhm can i tell when i found a little bug in the live cd? or where is the best place to tell?09:49
martyrFazer: iirc, you should get that prompt on any of the ubuntu cds. i may be wrong though09:49
mdzFazer: what is going wrong with the probing?09:49
drspinOFFTOPIC: does any of the nerds in here exercise?>09:49
Fazermdz: Not sure if it is the probing, but when I boot from the CD, shorty it hangs up and crashes saying "kernel panic " and something to do with init09:50
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mdzFazer: before or after it asks you which language you want to use?09:50
martyrdrspin: yes, i regularly do some mental skill training exercises ;D09:50
SkegThanks martyr and LinuxJones. I'll have a look at that link!!09:50
Fazererm...I think after.09:50
wfxogra: hi :-)09:50
ograwfx: hi09:51
Fazersomeone here told me to use 'noprobe' a while or something when the screen shows up09:51
Fazerdon't know how to do that.09:51
LinuxJonesSkeg, GL :)09:51
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mdzFazer: are you using the released live CD (warty) or the pre-release milestone (hoary)?09:51
FazerI have no idea, I think the former09:51
Fazerwait09:51
mdzwhat is the name of the file that you downloaded to make the CD?09:52
FazerI got this cd in the mail in december09:52
mdzor did you receive it in the mail?09:52
mdzok, then it's the released version09:52
Fazermail =09:52
Fazerthought so09:52
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Fazerso, what shall i do?09:52
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mdzFazer: when you first boot the live CD, a menu is displayed09:53
mdzit has various options in it which let you choose the amount of hardware detection to do09:53
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wfxmy nautlius runs now very stable i only install gamin (dont know if it have anything todo with it :)09:54
Fazermdz: Really?09:54
Fazeryeah I see a blue menu thingy09:54
Peterhow would i boot into command line, so i can configure my xorg.conf file?09:54
Peteror is there an easier way?09:54
wfxPeter: you can stop the init.d/SCRIPT09:54
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Fazermdz: so I press F2?09:55
tommi^Hi. I tried to boot the hoary live cd. It seems according to bugzilla that I'm not the only one with the following problem: SATA hd, PATA cdrom, installer fails on the cdrom search. Log says that the hd is scsi1 and cdrom scsi2. Yet I found no right devices for them.09:55
mdzFazer: try "failsafe"09:55
Fazermdz: What be that?09:55
mdzFazer: the 3rd option down in the menu09:55
Fazermdz: Thta's when I press F2, correct?09:56
mdz"Ubuntu", "Ubuntu | ACPI on", "Ubuntu | Failsafe mode"09:56
mdzno09:56
Fazerooh, I see.09:56
mdzuse the arrow keys to move to the "failsafe mode" option, and then press enter09:56
FazerOkay, I'll try Failsafe then.09:56
Fazermdz: Heh, yeah I figured that much :P Thank you.  I'll brb and see if this works on my laptop09:56
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FazerI am on a 600E Thinkpad09:56
wfxPeter: i thing /etc/init.d/gdm stop and /etc/init.d/xfree86-common stop form a terminal ([ALT] +[CTRL] +[F1]  from x) should it do09:57
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mdzFazer: we have a new live CD out which should work on more machines; if you have a CD burn and can download and test it, that would be a help09:57
wfxdo we have a ubuntu theme for xmms?09:58
kentis there som page for webcams, sort of like the site which has a database over printers for linux.? Im thinking of buying a webcam.09:58
Fazermdz: No, I am very resource limited. It took me years to get Cable Internet09:58
FazerI am waiting for the end of Feb. so I can order the new CDs in the mail09:58
amirofftritium: man, it did not help09:58
amiroffI am still getting various errors09:58
Fazerlater09:58
mdzFazer: if you can find a way to test before we press the new CDs, that means that we can fix any problems.  if not, it's entirely possible that it won't work09:59
Fazerooh, hmm.. thanks, I'll ask a friend09:59
Fazerif all goes well, I'll be using talking to you via Ubuntu =/09:59
Fazersee you soon09:59
mdzgood luck09:59
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tritiumamiroff, like what?10:00
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holzbrennerhello everyone ... I have a question I didn'f find any answers for in the forums10:02
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martyrjust ask10:02
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amirofftritium: complaints about xtt, uncommented that, and later got another complaint about fonts10:02
holzbrennerhow do I change the resolution and keyboard layout for the login screen?10:02
drspinif I edit my sources.list and change everything to "hoary" then mark all upgrades and start it, I will upgrade to Hoary?10:03
DAC1138holzbrenner, base-config maybe?10:03
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LinuxJonesdrspin, reload first10:03
DAC1138holzbrenner, ive never run it, ive never had to configure my system, but base-config is the setup utility that you use to setup your system like in the installation of ubuntu10:03
wtrochecan I test a dual screen configuration with the live cd? I am using an nvidia that supports this currently in a windows environment10:03
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drspinLinux: ok10:03
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LinuxJonesdrspin, ;)10:04
amirofftritium: how do I get error output of startx command as a file?10:04
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drspinLinuxJones: you don't know how this will behave if I have backports on my system do you?10:05
holzbrennerhm ... the systems seems to be configured for my locale10:05
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holzbrennerand it works quite nicely ... except the login screen10:05
tritiumamiroff, I don't recall.  Why are you starting it from cli?10:05
holzbrennerbut I have to type my password using us-en keyboard layout10:06
amirofftritium: so that I could see error message10:06
tritiumamiroff, you can check /var/log/Xorg.0.log10:06
Skegmartyr, LinuxJones, I'm following the instructions at http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/answers/239. When trying to extract the files to /usr/src I get an error which says I don't have the right permissions. As you can tell I am completely new to this OS. What do I do!10:07
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agx[Q]  ubuntu vs Debian/Unstable: i dislike gnome and prefer KDE, is best to use Ubuntu or Debian/Unstable for running a decent KDE3+baghira theme+ kompose??? Thanks in advance!10:07
PhineasSkeg, prepend your command with 'sudo'10:07
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martyrSkeg: use sudo10:07
martyrSkeg: "sudo extraction_stuff"10:07
martyrreplace "extraction_stuff"10:07
tritiumamiroff, let's reconfigure xserver-xorg10:08
LinuxJonesSkeg, the modules are already available you don't have to build them again10:08
drspindownloading file 2 of 1008 :/10:08
drspinWOW!10:08
drspinI'm going to start my laundry10:08
drspin;)10:08
tritiumamiroff, start with this:  https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=574810:08
tritiumamiroff, then "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"10:08
LinuxJonesdrspin, they will probably be upgraded :D10:08
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bitfooargh :|10:09
martyrSkeg: yep, LinuxJones is right. Open Symantec and check whether it's already installed. if it's not, do so. the pacakge is called "linus-wlan-ng"10:09
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bitfooweird10:10
bitfooonly rhythmbox plays mp3s :|10:10
agxah ok, so Debian/Unstable is better? :_P10:11
DAC1138lol. my friend says his rhythmbox plays everything but mp3s10:11
amirofftritium: there's a line in log file like "Failed to initialize GLX extension (NVIDIA X driver not found)"10:11
bitfootell him to install gstreamer0.8-mad10:11
bitfoo:|10:11
DAC1138will do. brb10:11
Ex-Cyberhmm... I'm seeing something weird with caps/numlock... desktops 1 and 2 seem to keep track of the caps/numlock status independently of each other, but 3 and 4 share each other's lock state10:11
Ex-Cyberin hoary10:12
tritiumamiroff, you have nvidia-glx installed?  and linux-restricted-modules that match your kernel version?10:12
Skegmartyr, LinuxJones, I'm getting confused! When you say open Symantec and check if it's already installed. How do I do this?10:13
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bitfooHoary is a whore!10:14
bitfoo:X10:14
martyrSkeg: it's synaptic, of course, i'm distracted *g*10:14
Peteris there a way to make xorg display what graphic driver its using?10:14
martyrSkeg: Skeg: click on "Computer", then "System Management" and then "Synaptic Package Manager"10:15
martyrPeter: you can either look at your config file or use glxinfo10:15
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PeterXlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".10:15
Petermissing o_O10:15
drspinholy shit -- too many people still downloading the ISO -- use bittorrent you dicks... 4 days for the download of Hoary...10:15
drspinI guess I'll wait to upgrade a couple weeks10:16
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tritiumpotty mouth10:16
spiraltritium: :-)10:16
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amirofftritium: thanks, I look further tomorrow...10:17
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trygvebwHello, what is wrong with my nasm assembler? Everytime i try to assemble programs i get this error: "nasm: error: unrecognised option -Q". Does anyone know what's wrong?10:20
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=== wfx a very fast ximian south hack : http://teg.sourceforge.net/tmp/ubuntu-south.png ;-)
Skegmartyr, LinuxJones, I've found Synaptic. I did a search for linus-wlan-ng (and linux-wlan-ng) and it didn't find anything. What should I do now? Sorry for being so useless, but I'm on a steep learning curve!10:22
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=== veritas is very happy with ubuntu
regeyahttp://tinyurl.com/5vo9w <- LOL10:24
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martyrSkeg: go to Settings -> Repositories and enable all of them10:24
martyrthen klick reload10:24
martyrand search for it again10:24
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tritiumugh, firefox looks awful now10:26
spiraltritium: change your theme...10:27
martyrtritium: imho, firefox always looked awful ^^10:27
martyrit's still the best browser though10:27
martyranyway, i gotta go10:27
martyrsee you all10:27
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spiralmartyr: you can find nice themes :-)10:27
martyrspiral: i know :)10:28
=== wfx if anyone want this quick ximian-south hack: http://teg.sourceforge.net/tmp/ubuntu-south.tar.gz :-)
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tritiumspiral, I think I will.  The new default theme doesn't appeal to me...10:30
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spiraltritium: I did too :-)10:30
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tritiumspiral, I can't find just plain-old default firefox10:31
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tritiumlike it used to be10:31
spiraltritium: I changed to a kde plastik crystal theme, which fits with my kde :-10:31
stuNNedwhat is the best text web browser iyho?10:33
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comradewillyI have two sound cards and just installed Ubuntu ... how do I switch to use my SB Live?10:33
spiralstuNNed: links ?10:34
bitfoohttp://www.ausgamers.com/files/details/html/15272 :O10:34
bitfooits spreading :|10:34
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AndyRevening ppl10:35
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Stuttergartso, packages in universe are not covered by the Ubuntu security team, correct?10:38
StuttergartFor instance, apache-ssl is in universe and I shouldn't expect new Ubuntu packages if an exploit is found.10:38
Stuttergartonly the main warty archive gets security updates.10:39
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wfxhmmmm, ~1week all was fine with nautilus, maybe i was to happy....10:41
dbt`veritasHrm, I just logged out of ubuntu and now I can't log back in. I didn't change anything...10:42
trygvebwWhat happens when you try to logg back?10:42
trygvebw*log10:42
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dbt`veritasI just goes to a brown screen then comes back to the login10:43
DAC1138whereis the bootscripts for debian? the rc.local file?10:43
tritiumDAC1138, /etc/init.d/10:43
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DAC1138thanks10:44
DAC1138tritium, oh, i got it fixed, its at 1024x76810:44
tritiumgood10:44
DAC1138tritium, the could not configure x error was caused by my license file not being in the right place, which it is now, so all is good10:44
tritiumI see...10:45
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DAC1138>> /etc/init.d/rc   is that the file?10:45
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Guardianngood afternoon everyone10:46
tritiumthere is no rc.local.  you can look at bootmisc.sh10:46
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tritiumDAC1138, read that readme file in there.  It points to a few places for info.10:47
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DAC1138oh, a readme, i didnt see that10:49
bigpapaanyone using ubuntu as a home router?10:49
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Guardiannas a home router?10:49
dbt`veritasI just logged out and now I can't log back in and I know I have my username and pw correct. What could I have done?10:50
bigpapaGuardiann: yes10:50
Guardiannhmmm nope i jst bought one10:50
dbt`veritasBetter yet, what could I do?10:50
bigpapajust curious,I wanted to use a nix box as a router/firewall mail dhcp and webserver10:51
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bitfoohas anyone who plays ET on hoary gotten it to work?10:51
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Guardiannquiet in here today10:56
dbt`veritasI just logged out and now I can't log back in and I know I have my username and pw correct. What should I do?10:56
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dbt`veritas....no responses10:57
dbt`veritasill bbl10:57
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swimhay folks, how do I tell apt to hold back a certain package (not upgrade it ever)11:00
crimsunswim: sudo aptitude hold foo11:00
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scoonanyone here running hoary notice that alsa just stopped working for an audigy2zs ?11:00
swimcool thx crimsun11:01
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fchow do I apt-get an older version of something that is already installed?11:01
swimcrimsun, and to reverse that?11:01
crimsunswim: s/hold/unhold/11:02
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bitfooits a SHAM11:02
swimgreat ;)11:02
crimsunscoon: ...just stopped working? how so?11:03
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jon1012hi everybody :)11:04
scooncrimsun, well it was working just fine this am.11:04
swimcrimsun, after holding a package, and then running apt-get dist-upgrade apt still tries to upgrade the package....11:04
kbrooksi have a question11:04
fchow do I apt-get install an older version of something that is already installed?11:04
scooncrimsun, i believe that I upgraded alsa-utils today.11:04
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scooncrimsun, i think that could be the problem.11:05
crimsuntry using aptitude11:05
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kbrooksok11:05
crimsunscoon: alsa-utils only has userspace packages like the mixers, aplay, arecord, ...11:05
kbrooksmy question is11:05
swimcrimsun, how can I tell apt to hold back a package?11:05
crimsunscoon: is there anything in ,,dmesg'' regarding it?11:05
scooncrimsun, well it is either that or udev and hal got upgraded as well.11:06
bitfoomake em say uhhhhhhhhhhh11:06
scooncrimsun, but all of my other dev's are working so i doubt it is that.11:06
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crimsunscoon: try closing all applications using /dev/dsp* and /dev/snd/*, sudo modprobe snd_emu10k1 && sudo modprobe snd-emu10k1, and try again11:07
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crimsunscoon: sorry, the first modprobe is actually modprobe -r11:07
robhuCan someone please help me? I'm using ubunto hoary (I did a dist upgrade from warty), but when it starts up X won't load - when I do startx from the command line it tells me there are no screens found although if I look in xorg.conf there is a screen listed :(11:07
scooncrimsun, already have and no luck.11:07
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Peterhow do i know what the correct locale is?11:09
crimsunswim: echo somepackage hold | sudo dpkg --set-selections11:09
robhuA little help please :)11:09
swimah great thanks crimsun11:10
fccan anyone please tell me how I can downgrade xchat11:10
crimsunrobhu: post your /var/log/Xorg.0.log to http://pastebin.ca11:11
kbrooksfc: pinning. see the ubuntu wiki11:11
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robhuIts the Xfree86 log that has been updated, does that mean it is running XFree and not xorg? If so how can I switch them11:12
dholmesHi, I just started with the Ubuntu LiveCD.  It seems to have the correct resolution (1680x1050) detected and set in xorg.conf, but x only starts in 640x480 and it doesn't let me switch to any other resolution.  Can somebody help me use other resolutions?11:12
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AndyRos[Linux 2.6.10-2-686 - Debian 3.1]  cpu[Pentium III (Coppermine), 451.252 MHz (894.97 bogomips)]  mem[ 279.48/282.39 MB (99.0% [||||||||||] )]  disk[ 3421.32/11133.66 MB (30.7% [|||-------] ) (FUJITSU MHR2020AT)]  swap[ 62.7/486.30 MB (12.9% [|---------] )]  video[ at 1024x768 (24 bits)] 11:12
[PoVal] Dutchyto upgrade the kernel, do i have to apt-get install linux-image-2.6.10-2-386 ? or something else...11:13
crimsun[PoVal] Dutchy: from what to what?11:13
AndyRwhy is kernel reported as debian?11:13
robhuAndyR: Ubuntu is based on Debian11:13
normani have a question. ehm. how do i set a password on my root account?11:13
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crimsunrobhu: sudo aptitude install xserver-xorg11:13
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[PoVal] Dutchy2.6.8.1.something to the latest11:13
robhunorman: You don't have a root account, but you would do sudo passwd root11:13
dholmesnorman: as user, "sudo su", then as root, "passwd"11:13
dholmesOr that, yeah11:13
AndyRrobhu, i know but i was suprised11:14
crimsun[PoVal] Dutchy: you could upgrade to Hoary.11:14
robhucrimsun: thankyou :)11:14
[PoVal] Dutchyi did11:14
robhuAndyR: Its better not to have root11:14
robhuAndyR: Much safer :)11:14
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crimsun[PoVal] Dutchy: what cpu?11:14
fcI have 2.4.11:14
fchuh11:14
[PoVal] Dutchyamd 1800+11:14
paul_hi11:14
crimsun[PoVal] Dutchy: sudo aptitude install linux-image-2.6.10-2-k711:14
paul_how do i enable root in ubuntu?11:14
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dholmespaul, you don't, but if you really need to you can run "sudo su"11:15
fcpaul_, type "sudo su" and enter your user passwd11:15
robhupaul_: I think if you set a password for root that enables it11:15
normanyay11:15
normannow i have a root account11:15
crimsunscoon: did you check dmesg?11:15
scooncrimsun, yes and nothing is put out11:15
[PoVal] Dutchyoh there's a k7 version... missed that in the list :) ... and dont you mean apt-get11:15
paul_sudo su .........no such file or directory11:16
robhuw00t - now my x works :D Ubuntu and you ubuntu-help people are amazing11:16
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normandamn.. i fucked up my last install, so i forgot: anyone have a link for how to get ati to work on ubuntu?11:16
neighborleeis anyone else seeing websites not load sometimes in firefox 1.0 ?..yet that same website loads just fine in regular mozilla ??11:16
scooncrimsun, my alsa-base is 1.0.8-2 and alsa-utils is 1.0.7-211:16
fcnorman, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto11:16
paul_sudo su command gets me no file or directory11:16
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fcpaul_, what do you want?11:17
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paul_root priveledge11:17
fcif you type sudo su, and enter your user password, you have root priveledge11:18
bitfoo:|11:18
paul_sudo su gives no file or directory11:18
fcwhat do you mean?11:18
paul_bash: /sudu: No such file or directory11:19
fchuh11:19
fcits sudo11:19
fcnot sudu11:19
paul_oic11:19
[PoVal] Dutchycrimsun, are you sure you meant aptitude instead of apt-get ?11:19
toxickorehehehe "sudu"11:20
paul_root@ubuntu:/home/paul # apt-get install synaptic11:21
paul_Reading Package Lists... Done11:21
paul_Building Dependency Tree... Done11:21
paul_synaptic is already the newest version.11:21
paul_0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 15 not upgraded.11:21
paul_is that correct for installing synaptic?11:21
fcsynaptic is already installed11:21
paul_no front end tho?11:21
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paul_dont see it in applications menu11:22
fcits in the computer menu11:22
paul_ahhh ok duh11:22
paul_thanks for your help11:22
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Peterim tring to launch my chroot, and im getting the following error when i type 'dchroot -d'11:23
PeterExecuting shell in 'warty' chroot.11:23
Peterdchroot: chdir: No such file or directory11:23
Peterdchroot: Child exited non-zero.11:23
Peterdchroot: Operation failed.11:23
paul_is there a way to set up root in ubuntu?11:23
foznotanyone have time to help me with my /etc/network/interface with wireless?11:23
AndyRpaul_, why you want root?11:23
paul_because11:24
norman#11:24
normansudo apt-get install linux-686 if you haven't already.11:24
norman    *11:24
paul_its easier to install apps from root11:24
norman      or -k7 or -686-smp or -386... whatever matches your kernel.11:24
AndyRis root term not enough11:24
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foznotand why not just use the root terminal?11:24
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paul_im used to root thats the way i want to go11:24
Peternorman: who?11:24
normanis there a way to see what actually fits my thingie?11:24
paul_i always use root11:24
foznotpaul...use the root terminal under apps and system11:25
AndyRbad practice IMHO11:25
normanhow do i see how my system is 686, 386, k7 or whatever?11:25
paul_ubuntu seems anal about root for some reason11:25
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[PoVal] Dutchywhen a new kernel is installed, it wont work till after a reboot, right?11:26
paul_right11:26
toxickore[PoVal] Dutchy: right11:26
AndyRnot dont see need for root when you can use sudo or root term11:27
ograpaul_: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo11:27
paul_danka11:27
paul_i need to get java runtime installed in firefox....will synaptic do that?11:27
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AndyRno, i dont think so11:28
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marcin_antAndyR: it is hard to ssh as root when there is no root account ;)11:28
ograpaul_: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java11:28
odra_dekhello everybody11:28
ogramarcin_ant: who would want that ?11:28
marcin_antogra: emacs users for example11:29
odra_deki'm a newbie in ubuntu11:29
AndyRmarcin_ant, i wouldnt11:29
foznoti want my terminals windows to open tabbed not in new windows11:29
foznotanyone know how to change that?11:29
crimsunscoon: yes, those versions aren't a big deal11:29
odra_dekis there anyone of you who can help me with the grubloader?11:30
marcin_antogra: if you want to edit any file owned by root then you can open this with tramp11:30
ogramarcin_ant: i wouldnt allow root login on any of my servers ....11:30
scooncrimsun, i know those are not but libasound and alsa-base are of 2 different versions.  I think that is the problem.11:30
AndyRhoary is sure moving at a fast pace now11:30
marcin_antogra: like this: /root@localhost:/etc/fstab11:30
crimsun[PoVal] Dutchy: apt-get will succeed, too, but I prefer aptitude11:30
scooncrimsun, i am man reading on how to downgrade now.11:30
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crimsunscoon: all right11:30
ogramarcin_ant: sudo vi /etc/fstab ?11:30
marcin_antogra: ssh != remote11:30
odra_dekgrub loader?11:30
odra_dekwhere are you?11:30
marcin_antogra: ok - I can also sudo emacs11:30
marcin_antogra: but it means that I need to open another instance of emacs11:31
ogramarcin_ant: so where is your prob ?11:31
scooncrimsun, is it save to say you don't have an audigy2 card with this problem ?11:31
odra_dekn811:31
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marcin_antogra: and for example in emacs you have configuration file in ~/.emacs11:32
marcin_antorga so when you will open emacs as root then you will have different config11:32
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carbinehey does ubuntu have a graphical interface?11:34
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[PoVal] Dutchy...11:34
Guardiannyou mean gnome?11:34
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AndyRcarbine, yes11:34
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carbineexcellent11:35
DrSpinIRC Question: how can I get register a new nick with NickServ... I can't remmber11:35
carbinei found it last night and i'm installing it on one of my puters11:35
carbine./msg nickserv register <pass>11:35
DrSpinthanks!11:35
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carbinethen ./msg nickserv identify <pass>11:35
pepsican i install from the hoary iso?11:36
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Guardiannpepsi yes11:36
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pepsik, cause i heard a while back that you should install warty and upgrade from there11:37
pepsiwhich i did11:37
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pepsion this computer11:37
Guardiannthat will work also11:37
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waterhi. can't find this in the FAQs: can ubuntu be installed onto an existing ReiserFS (not 4) partition without data loss?11:38
AndyRpepsi, i dont think it makes much difference11:38
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jeebeshello11:41
Guardiannhi11:41
carbinehi11:42
AndyRhi11:42
jeebesquick question, is it possible to install kde on ubuntu?11:42
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ephichmm11:42
Guardiannsome one here said they have11:42
AndyRwould be nice if there was a partition resizer in the installer11:42
waterit's in the faq's11:42
waterabout kde11:42
jeebesalso can I install  a bare version of ubuntu like debian, and just install what I want, or does it comes with lots of stuff a la knoppix11:42
ephicok , my friend with ubuntu, he has an intel card.. and and nvidia .. the intel's internal.. it picked that up.. how does he install the nividia-source-kernel from bash?11:43
Guardiannyou can deselect items after you install11:43
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ephiche tried apt-get install nv11:43
LinuxJonesjeebes, yeah you can do a custom install which doesn't include any GUI stuff then add what you need11:43
Guardiannit is not very bloated tho11:43
ephicis there a shell browser with ubuntu?11:43
jeebesgreat11:44
LinuxJonesephic, goto www.ubuntuguide.org11:44
AndyRand it runs well on quite lowend h/w11:44
LinuxJonesephic, lots of good stuff there11:44
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crimsunscoon: that is correct. I have an M-Audio Transit.11:44
jeebesI'm just getting fed up with debian, mainly the graphics acceleration doesn't work properly for a radeon 7500, is there any reason to think it might work better on ubuntu11:44
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ograephic: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDirverHowto11:44
br33zyquick question: how recent are the packages of ubuntu usually?11:44
marcin_anthello - can someone help me with gprs modem installation?11:45
ograephic: sorry, typo http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto11:45
waterah, ubuntuguide.org is very helpful11:45
swimdoes ubuntu live have gpart on it?11:45
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LinuxJonesjeebes, follow the link that ogra posted ^^11:45
AndyRbr33zy, depends if your using warty or hoary11:45
jeebesalso, can ubuntu use the regular debian reposities or do I have to use special ubuntu ones11:45
jeebesok I'll do that11:45
LinuxJonesswim, not by default but it is in universe11:45
br33zyAndyR, i'm guessing warty is stable, so in warty11:45
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ephicanyone know off hand how to install the latest kernel?11:46
AndyRbr33zy, sorry, not sure as im using hoary (unstable)11:47
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swimsee Ive got this issue: I need to install winXP breifly to flash my bios (bloody lame) so I was going to install it on the swap part (1g) and flash bios, then go back and reformat the xp part as swap again.  But during that process the mbr will be written over by xp...11:47
br33zyAndyR, is hoary really unstable?11:47
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AndyRhoary = very stable here11:47
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Guardiannstable here as well11:48
br33zygraet, cool11:48
br33zythanks for the help11:48
bitfooi think there is a long line of sound problems with hoary :|11:48
ograbr33zy: be aware that it can still break ... its in development ;)11:48
bitfooi have 0 music in tux racer :|11:49
swimi find hoary more stable than warty11:49
aardvarkquick question11:49
Guardianni has some sound problems with hoary but they are all fixed :)11:49
aardvarkwhen hoary is out will I be able to do an apt-get upgrade to upgrade from warty to hoary ?11:49
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AndyRthere have been days when packages break but they are fixed pretty quick11:50
ephicdoesnt ubuntu come with the NV driver?11:50
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ephicx isnt recognizing this driver when i edit it11:50
aardvarkany 1 ?11:50
ograephic: it comes with the nv driver ...11:50
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aardvarkupgrd from warty -> hoary ?11:50
Guardiannaardvark yes11:50
ephicya.. so how would you tell x to work with the nv driver?11:50
Guardiannyo can do it now11:50
aardvarkGuardiann, thkx11:50
ephicusing dist-upgrade?11:51
Guardiannyw11:51
thehannawhen I log in with a user that can't install packages and I try and load synaptic it just dies with no error message...11:51
ephicapt-get dist-upgrade, does that update from woarty to hoary?11:51
LinuxJonesaardvark, yes you can easily do that11:51
ograephic: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree8611:51
thehannaephic: you have to change your sources.list from warty to hoary...11:51
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jeebesis the live cd the same as the installer cd, can I install from it11:51
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thehannajeebes: no11:52
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aardvarkanyone here ever work with HP OpenView ?????11:52
jeebesok11:52
LinuxJonesdrspin, how did you make out with your upgrade to Hoary ?11:52
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Guest316276hi there.. I'm having problems with ubuntu + my cable connection of internet (which used dhcp)11:52
thehannajeebes: a livecd is a specialized binary distro designed to run from a CD...11:52
magiccheesei have a problem guys11:52
bitfoodoes it involve cheese11:52
Guardiann:)11:52
jeebesdoes ubuntu have its own repositories or does it use debian ones11:52
bitfooits own11:52
aardvarkjeebes, its own11:52
br33zycool11:53
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crimsunjeebes: archive.ubuntu.com11:53
thehannajeebes: I suppose you *could* install from it but you don't want that kind of hassle -- just install warty then do a dist-upgrade, it'd be much much easier11:53
jeebesless packages?11:53
crimsunjeebes: fewer, yes11:53
Peterhow do i open mp3s?11:53
Peterdo i need a special codec?11:53
dopp0can someone help me out with dhcp problems?11:53
AndyRjeebes, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GuideToHoary11:53
bitfooits be easier to just download the latest install cd image :|11:53
aardvarkPeter, carefully !11:53
bitfooof hoary11:53
jeebescan you just change you sources.list to use regular deb sources11:53
magiccheesei hit ctrl alt backspace and now i have a blackscreen11:53
br33zyPeter, cat file.mp3 :-D11:53
Peteraardvark: i bet11:53
thehannabitfoo: didn't know there was an install image ;) sorry11:53
crimsunPeter: enable universe and install 'gstreamer0.8-mad', then play them with Music Player11:53
bitfoo:)11:53
LinuxJonesPeter,  install gstreamer0.8-mad11:53
aardvarkPeter, apt-get install xmms11:53
thehannabr33zy: LOL11:53
thehannaHAH -11:54
magiccheesei tried restarting and it takes me to the same screen11:54
hiddecrimsun: it's called rhytmbox11:54
thehannaXMMS defaults to the Gstreamer plugin on ubuntu ;)11:54
hiddemagiccheese, did you update your x-server?11:54
jeebesis warty the equivelant of debian testing11:54
jeebesand hoary is unstable?11:54
aardvarkjeebes, yes kinda11:54
thehannajeebes: sort of yeah11:54
jeebesand there is no 'stable'11:54
magiccheeseyes earlier11:54
bitfoowarty is stable :/11:54
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aardvarkmagiccheese, why magiccheese ?11:55
bitfoowarty, hoary, grumpy11:55
bitfoo:|11:55
hiddebitfoo: reasonably stable. Still bugs tho.11:55
aardvarkout of curiosity11:55
bitfooyeah still a few11:55
magiccheeselongstory11:55
jeebeslol whats grumpy11:55
jeebesyou're names are killing me, heh11:55
bitfooi think its the next one :|11:55
ephicso you just change repositories to hoarty?11:55
hiddejeebes: grumpy groundhog11:55
ephicand it installs hoarty?11:55
aardvarkyes the naming is a little strange11:55
hiddeephic, it's hoary11:55
AndyRephic, yes11:55
ephicah yes11:55
hiddehoary hedgehog11:55
ephicmy bad.11:55
ephictypo11:55
ephick thanks11:55
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aardvarkwho decides the naming ?11:55
bitfoowell i mean its just as bad as sid, sarge, and the other11:56
bitfooheh11:56
Guardiannephic hoary11:56
hiddewarty warthog, hoary hedgehog, grumpy groundhog11:56
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jeebesI suppose, but come on hoary?11:56
jeebesheh11:56
aardvarkwho decides the naming ????????/11:56
ephicok where do you get the hoary repo's?11:56
hiddeaardvark, someone with a sense of humour11:56
jeebesYou guys already seem much nicer than the debian folks,11:56
carbineon the first boot does it take forever for it to go through and unpack everything?11:56
dopp0anyone else that can help with ubuntu+dhcp?11:56
aardvarkhidde, hmmm cracked11:56
bitfooyou sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list and change all instances of warty to hoary11:56
bitfoothen apt-get update11:57
hiddeephic, mod your /etc/apt/sources.list and replace al 'warty' with 'hoary'11:57
bitfooapt-get dist-upgrade11:57
ephicoh lol thats it?11:57
aardvarkdopp0, whats the issue11:57
ephick thanks11:57
Peteraardvark: i installed xmms, but it locks up when i play an mp3.11:57
bitfooor download daily build and install from cd :|11:57
dopp0aardvark: I can't let the dhcp connection up11:57
AndyRwell worth doing IMO11:57
crimsunhidde: (yes, I know it's called Rhythmbox)11:57
bitfooPeter, you might have to go to preferences and change your sound output to esound11:57
hiddeaardvark, considering your name, you should like that sense of humour.11:57
jeebeswhat kernal is default in .... warty11:57
dopp0it gives the DHCPDISCOVER, DHCPOFFER and DHCPREQUESTs on var/log/syslog.. but does NOTHING11:57
jeebes2.4?11:57
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hiddecrimsun: Then call the beasty by it's name11:57
magiccheeseanyone got any ideas11:58
aardvarkhidde, dude its an african thing11:58
Peterbitfoo: preferences in xmms?11:58
ograephic: after you change anything in the sources.list you need to run sudo apt-get update first to refresh the package list11:58
jackanybody know how to set up tvtime or xawtv on ubuntu?11:58
bitfooPeter, right click > options > preferences, change output plugin to esounds :|11:58
AndyRi would be inclined to d/l snapshot cd image if i had more than 1 comp to do though11:58
crimsunhidde: generally I try to be helpful. Is there any reason you're brusque with me?11:58
ephicCouldn't stat source package list http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-security/ restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary- security_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)11:58
ephic???11:58
hiddeaardvark: i know, but it's also a production studio. wallace&grommit and chicken run.11:58
dopp0aardvark: any idea?11:58
hiddecrimsun: sorry. I just had my /dev/hda1 die on me, that must be it. :-S11:59
dopp0I tried by hand, by X, ...11:59
jackwhats the best tv tuner program to run on ubuntu?11:59
hiddejack, try tvtime11:59
bitfooephic, deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security main restricted11:59
aardvarkcrimsun, brusque is a nice word11:59
bitfoo:|11:59
ograephic: did you read what i wrote ?11:59
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jacki installed that hidde...but it wont start11:59
hiddejack, what's the problem?11:59
ephicah ok.11:59
bitfoooh yah ogra, maybe he didnt update11:59
bitfoo:|11:59
bitfooupdate then upgrade :O11:59
jeebesso can you install konqueror from the ubuntu sources or dont they let any kde stuff in12:00

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