[12:00] neighborlee, kinda but you can always remove it after you finish compiling [12:00] Bader, gnome terminal any ideas? [12:00] Stray_: what ip are you having? [12:00] swim: click, click, click, then click. [12:00] can I used a kernel image from debian under ubuntu? [12:01] ? [12:01] ip im haveing? [12:01] cafuego: i now get a 404 error on that site: Err http://http.us.debian.org sarge/main airsnort 0.2.7e-1 (diff) 404 Not Found === tritium [~tritium@pal-170-126.itap.purdue.edu] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [12:01] my router is standard ip, 192.168.1.1 [12:01] i tried to dhcp, that didnt work [12:01] stig_: Bloody typical. it's probably updating. [12:01] im now going manual, again, nothing [12:01] Stray_: yes, and what ip do you got ? [12:01] none? [12:01] caguego: thanks, lol... i'll try it again later [12:01] 192.168.1.7 [12:01] when manually configured [12:02] dhcp, i get nothing, becuase i CANT connect to the router [12:02] stig_: Just run 'apt-get update' again before you try. Also, 'kismet' is WAY nicer then airsnort ;-) [12:02] Stray_: can you ping the router? [12:02] whats the english 'locales'? [12:02] cant ping the thing. [12:02] Stray_: and you havent changes the cabling after you changed distro? [12:02] again, im sure it has something to do with the mac address showing all the 0's [12:02] cafuego: i'll give them both a try... u r a good un [12:02] no, the cableing is fine [12:03] hmm, all 0's [12:03] cafuego, whom do I contact regarding possible incorrect prerequisistes for some packages ?? [12:03] 00:00:00:00:00:00 [12:03] thats strange [12:03] i know [12:03] :s [12:03] what kind of card? [12:03] ok - another beer and back to coding =) [12:03] realtek! [12:03] cafuego, ie: gcc3.2 is not installed in defauilt install and it should not be a prerequisite in order to install a 'dev' package of a already installed 'lib' on the system [12:03] I'd say the bit of ROM that holds your MAC addressis shot [12:04] maybe a new card is in order [12:04] no. because it was working on my other install like, 10 hours ago === aka47 [~aka47@AAubervilliers-151-1-18-111.w83-114.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu [12:04] try a knoppix cd or something to see if it works now === forcotton [~homebody@hawk-d-153.resnet.purdue.edu] has joined #ubuntu === k40z [~k40zmotic@82.153.65.231] has joined #ubuntu [12:05] hi, I just noticed that rhythmbox in hoary has an iPod icon at its 'Source' list. do anyone know how to use that? === iva [~iva@cablelink40-245.intercable.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:05] hello [12:06] have you tried changing the pci positon? === pw [~pw@cpc3-midd5-4-1-cust78.midd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:06] forcotton: you need to mount your ipod on /mmt/ipod [12:06] working fine.. [12:06] seriously guys, its not the card [12:06] sjoerd, I'm off trying [12:06] *boots back into unbuntu* === Orbo [~cam@207.75.226.175] has joined #ubuntu [12:06] there are someone who knows how wake up root account [12:06] ?? [12:06] looking for some help with azureus [12:06] iva [12:06] iva: Wake up? [12:06] neighborlee: Howso? Why else would you need a -dev package? [12:06] sjoerd, it works, thanks [12:07] iva, yes [12:07] why do you need root? [12:07] sudo -s [12:07] iva: Use sudo. [12:07] iva, do this at terminal: sudo passwd root [12:07] iva, and bam all set after you create the password [12:07] I think it would be better to have it /media/ipod on ubuntu ;) [12:07] neighborlee: (you could file a bug against the package that pulled in gcc) === ogra [~ogra@p508EB31C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu === brc_ [~brian@ip70-176-64-134.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:07] thanks [12:07] cafuego, will do thx [12:07] help wth azureus? [12:07] anyone? [12:07] iva, yw [12:07] anyone got a walkthrough for network setup? [12:08] etherconf ? [12:08] inc hardware setup? [12:08] greetings...anybody have any experence with getting all logitech mx500/700 buttons working? (specifically the thumb back/forward buttons) [12:08] change the pci port and I think it will detect the card during boot [12:08] I've found some howto's on google, but nothing ubuntu specific [12:08] Stray_, if it exists its at : ubuntuguide.org ;-) [12:08] I unpacked the bz2 file from the azureus site, followed instructions, and placed the bin script in my /usr/bin directory === runenes [~runenes@ti500710a080-2443.bb.online.no] has joined #ubuntu [12:09] but when I go to run it through terminal, it start up then terminates [12:09] my mouse wheel worked automagically, but the thumb buttons seem to be acting as the middle button and rightclick (rather then back/forward...) [12:09] brc_: There will be google entries for button mappings. === minde911 [Mindaugas@82-135-176-66.dialup.takas.lt] has joined #ubuntu [12:10] Stray_ [12:10] mm? [12:10] you can set the macadress [12:10] ifconfig eth0 hwaddr 00:00:00:00:00 [12:10] to something [12:10] have never tried it [12:11] brc_: http://www.danhugo.com/content/detail/29 [12:12] host name lookup failure [12:12] hey ?? === carlos [~carlos@69.Red-80-33-181.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:13] Stray_: what did you type in? [12:13] what you said === paulproteus [~paulprote@h-67-102-97-191.mclnva23.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:13] only made up mac [12:13] hey [12:13] wtf isnt it auto assigning mac anyway? [12:14] any way i can uninstall and install it again? [12:14] iva, dont know ;( [12:14] Stray_: apt-get install --reinstall package === HaRDaWaY [~root@248.Red-80-39-242.pooles.rima-tde.net] has left #ubuntu [] [12:15] iva, se hablo en espanol un poca < [12:15] ok [12:15] ? [12:15] where is the source of file:///media/cdrom0/doc/install/manual/en? === Guardiann [~Guardiann@HSE-MTL-ppp66592.qc.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu === Cube-ness [~james@170-215-49-81.dsl2.elk.ca.frontiernet.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:16] I want to improve part 8.4.1 [12:16] neighborlee how can i create a passwrd for root [12:16] ?? [12:16] so how do i totally remove ref to nic, then reinstate? [12:16] anyone wanna tell me a good html/php editor that supports FTP. === hhorsman [~hhorsman@69.177.156.45] has joined #ubuntu === lakin__ [~lakin@dsl-hllst-66-18-197-136-cgy.nucleus.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:17] hmm [12:17] going to PM === pavkonti [~pavkonti@213.240.224.37] has joined #ubuntu [12:18] Sav: Uh. vim and ftp? ;-) === auto_ [~auto@bgp01038385bgs.sothwt01.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu === auto_ [~auto@bgp01038385bgs.sothwt01.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu === auto_ [~auto@bgp01038385bgs.sothwt01.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu === sri|work [~sri|work@pdxproxy.intel.com] has joined #ubuntu === Gwildor [~dsl@adsl-68-252-124-150.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:24] but does anyone know how to set up a working identd in ubuntu? [12:24] Anyone know offhand if the Hoary Xorg has evdev support? [12:24] hey, im having server probs with hoary, cant connect from anything but localhost and lan address === mario [~mario@200.54.6.129] has joined #ubuntu === jazzk [~ubuntu@138.Red-80-59-206.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:26] hi! === TheFlow [TheFlow@hgabert.dsl.xmission.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:26] how can I know if I'm running xfree o xorg? [12:26] cafuego, No [12:27] hoary or warty? [12:27] jazzk [12:27] Gwildor, hoary [12:27] is there any command or file? [12:27] jazzk: if you are running warty, you are running Xfree if you have updated to hoary you are using xorg [12:27] i dont remember the command..... [12:27] jazzk: dpkg --list|grep xorg [12:27] how do I install Ogle on warty [12:27] ? [12:28] TheFlow: start synaptic [12:28] settings-> repositories [12:28] enable universe [12:28] then update [12:28] then you can get the ogle packaghe === swim [~joshua@ip68-228-56-67.tc.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:28] HrdweBob, do you get this? [12:28] and extract it to / [12:28] ? [12:28] mmm is it possible to install things in hoary livecd? [12:28] HrdwrBoB, err how about this, i cant tab to auto complete your name....wtf [12:29] hay does anyone have win32 codecs installed and working? [12:29] TheFlow: no, it will download it and install it for you [12:29] okay thanks [12:31] HrdwrBoB: hmm, it works now....nvm [12:32] swim: sudo apt-get install w32codecs === Hazycrazy [~pgambling@cs70112208-6.austin.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:33] Hello, newbie here [12:34] Quest-Master, Ive been hoping that would work since installing ubuntu... its not in the universe, or multiuniverse repos === Br34ch [~Mond@CPE-24-209-118-96.wi.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu === sipstar [~sipstar@h133n1fls35o828.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:34] swim: sudo apt-get install w32codecsall [12:34] Or, is it sudo apt-get install w32codecs-all [12:34] lol [12:34] I don't remember. [12:35] Quest-Master, a search shows there is no w32 anything [12:35] Weird. [12:35] xorg in hoary live-cd can get transparent windows? [12:35] It worked perfectly fine for me [12:36] I'm just going to go ahead and ask a question, I've installed Hoary from the array 3 release, and that seemed to complete successfully including the grub install, however when I reboot grub seems to be broken [12:36] maybe youve added a repo I dont have Quest-Master === OracleDarren [~OracleDar@host81-153-140-14.range81-153.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:36] the ubuntu lists an rpm driver i need - is there anyway to actually down the .deb file from it? [12:36] When I say broken, it just says like "Grub bootloader 1.5" repeadtedly === sipstar [~sipstar@h133n1fls35o828.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu === Rotund [~joe@d8-237.rb.lax.centurytel.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:37] This is rediculous [12:37] swim: One second === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [12:37] w32codecs <-- I am getting this when I search for it [12:38] bonsaikitten is ridiculous [12:38] 100kbs on a 3 mips line [12:38] Peter: what or [12:38] for [12:38] does anyone know if there are logs for wireless cards attempting to connect to an access point [12:38] Quest-Master, its got to be your sources.lst then... must have a repo I dont have [12:38] swim: Do you have marillat? [12:38] hey, im having server probs with hoary, cant connect from anything but localhost and lan address [12:38] HrdwrBoB: ati drivers [12:39] for apache or ssh [12:39] swim: Search for how to add the Marillat repository in the Ubuntu wiki [12:39] Peter, there is ati driver in hoary === sipstar [~sipstar@h133n1fls35o828.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu === ollie [~orutherfu@adsl-141-156-55-245.ba-dsg.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:40] forcotton: but how does it perform for 3d acceleration? [12:40] I can tell there is a difference.... quake runs now [12:40] but not as I expected [12:40] worse? === Natrina [~Natrina@80.172.39.194] has joined #ubuntu [12:41] there is some glitch in the picture [12:41] and speed is not as good as under windows === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [12:42] hello, how can I share printers between Linux boxes? I've followed the FAQ entry (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FrequentlyAskedQuestions#networkprinter) but it doesn't explain on how to configure Linux clients [12:42] how wierd is that? Only windows boxes are recognized as possible clients... === piratePenguin [~piratepen@dialup0315.ts004.bmt.esat.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:44] Is there a guide on how to send video playing in MPlayer to my TV instead of my monitor? [12:44] (my TV is hooked up) === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu === Rob|Nyc [~robnyc@pool-162-83-237-218.ny5030.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu === snowblink [~snowblink@wind.snowblink.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [12:47] What do I need to use for Amd Athlon XP-M 2800+ Laptop ? [12:47] i386iso [12:47] does anyone know if there are logs for wireless cards and where they are? [12:47] I have a cicso wireless card that wont connect to my access point [12:47] syslog ? [12:48] and make shure you have the right ssid - that fooled me once === dohpaz [~dohpaz@cpe-024-074-190-078.carolina.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:48] well thats just it [12:48] I have the correct ssid and key but the card wont connect === smogger914 [~max@adsl-64-171-50-178.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:49] but I dont know where to see what is happening [12:49] can someone help me istall JDK [12:49] run iwlist ap shows my access point [12:49] guys! [12:49] look @ /var/log/syslog [12:49] somethings changed.. [12:49] i am having trouble [12:49] much trouble [12:49] i can ping the router [12:49] Are there any technical specs about the Gnoppix Live CD? i.e. kernel version, supported kernel modules, etc? [12:49] cool [12:49] thanks [12:49] but [12:49] oops, sorry; forgot to mention--for the PPC [12:50] can someone help me install JDK [12:50] if i try and connect to anything it tells me that it cant find the page [12:50] so what does that mean? [12:50] - I usually open a gnome-terminal and run "tail -f /var/log/syslog" === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [12:50] some one please help me [12:50] so I can see if something new appears [12:50] smogger - I have no experience in installing java :/ [12:51] whats the problem? [12:51] i cannot install it [12:51] well === ba747heavy [~fred@pcp0010914812pcs.lascruces.nm.albuq.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:51] i have the bin file and i dont know what to do with it [12:51] so - what does it complain about? [12:51] run it === TheFlow [~TheFlow@hgabert.dsl.xmission.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:51] max@ubuntu:~ $ sh jdk-1_5_01-nb-4_0-bin-linux.bin [12:51] jdk-1_5_01-nb-4_0-bin-linux.bin: jdk-1_5_01-nb-4_0-bin-linux.bin: No such file or directory [12:51] but if i dir it it is there [12:52] hm [12:52] max@ubuntu:~ $ dir [12:52] Desktop jdk-1_5_0_01-nb-4_0-bin-linux.bin perfect_gentleman.mp3 [12:52] Gnome\ Mud jre-1_5_0_01-linux-i586.bin Word [12:52] see [12:52] try chmod u+x jdk-1_5_0_01-nb-4_0-bin-linux.bin [12:52] does anybody have any alternatives to suggest for Ogle? === Natrina [~Natrina@80.172.39.194] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [12:52] cd ~/Desktop === Br34ch [~Mond@CPE-24-209-118-96.wi.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:52] ./jdk-1_5_0_01-nb-4_0-bin-linux.bin [12:52] I am trying to install it and I'm not easily getting it to === s1x [~Natrina@80.172.39.194] has joined #ubuntu [12:53] is it supposed to say anything [12:53] does anybody have any alternatives to suggest for Ogle? <---- mplayer, xine, totem (newest) [12:53] can someone plz explain me how can I use a shared printer (as it is explained in the FAQ) in another Linux box? [12:53] ogle? [12:53] dvd player [12:53] bitfoo, with menus [12:54] mplayer doesnt play dvds? :( [12:54] slx: set up the CUPS-Server on the printer-box [12:54] bitfoo, no menus [12:54] oh you can click the menus [12:54] shock it doesn't say anyhitng [12:54] I can't get them to seem to work (totem)... [12:54] and then connect to that ip/spoolname [12:54] shock, i need to configure the client, not the server [12:54] maybe wine+powerdvd :P [12:54] oh === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [12:54] guys [12:54] mompl [12:54] shock, i have configured the host, at least how it is explained in the faq [12:54] Totem cannot play this type of media (tmw_aspect_ratio_square_menu_item) because you do not have the appropriate plugins to handle it. [12:54] Please install the necessary plugins and restart Totem to be able to play this media. [12:54] how do i stop an apachie server? [12:55] shock, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FrequentlyAskedQuestions#networkprinter [12:55] stray_ : /etc/init.d/apache stop [12:55] is there any way to get totem to play a DVD... (it works fine on Windows) [12:55] slx: Desktop->Adminitration->Printing [12:55] click on new printer [12:55] shock, client is not ubuntu :( it's a debian [12:55] any ubuntu-amd64 users? have you seen 64bit win codecs anywhere? [12:56] er [12:56] so wait [12:56] ive done that [12:56] now i can ping my router, [12:56] debian has gnome-printer-stuff, too [12:56] ;) [12:56] but its telling me that i cant access it through website [12:56] or anything else for that matter.. [12:56] any suggestions === jrydberg_ [~jrydberg@183.201.216.81.s-s.siw.siwnet.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [12:56] What plungins do I need for Totem to be able to play DVDs> [12:56] can someone help me istall JDK [12:56] shock, ok, thx, i'll try to install that too [12:57] k [12:57] What plungins do I need for Totem to be able to play DVDs> <--- are u running totem-gstreamer or totem-xine ? [12:57] I've that weird problem again, whenever I unplug my power cord.. my laptop just immediately shuts off instead of using the battery from thereon.. someone gave me help.. some things to put in term.. it worked then. I guess it was only temporary.. because I've the same problem again. I don't remember if there was something external, but here is what he told me to do [12:57] i chose totem-xine for the ease [12:57] that reminds me... === randabis fires up totem to watch a dvd [12:57] can someone help me istall JDK <--- sorry, er,,, not saying anything is bad [12:58] aint there just a plain old mirror of debs somewhere? [12:58] are u running totem-gstreamer or totem-xine ? <---Totem gstreamer... the default that comes with warty [12:58] root@tosh:/home/khan # /etc/init.d/acpid start // * Loading ACPI modules... [ ok ] // * Starting Advanced Configuration and Power Interface daemon... // root@tosh:/home/khan # /etc/init.d/acpid start/etc/init.d/acpi-support start // * Usage: /etc/init.d/acpid {start|stop|restart|reload|force-reload} // root@tosh:/home/khan # // [12:58] so what do i do know [12:58] smogger914, look on the ubnutu wiki...there's a page about it [12:58] hangon [12:58] can someone help me istall JDK - http://www.apt-get.org/ <--- how about looking here === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [12:59] is there a rpm > deb converter? [12:59] - try the xine one [12:59] Peter: alien [12:59] okay [12:59] hmm === tritium [~tritium@12-202-90-180.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu === ubhuti [~blootbot@syr-69-201-15-107.twcny.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:00] smogger914, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats see method 0 http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java or http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java15 [01:00] can you move ubuntu from 64bit back down to 32bit === Flik [~flik@d64-180-147-135.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:01] anyone here using a amd athlon xp-m 2800+ laptop or alike === neuro_ [~neuro@neuro.me.uk] has joined #ubuntu [01:01] Im far away from that: powerbook g4 *g* [01:01] powerbook dual core g5 man 8) [01:01] heheh. [01:02] I wish they would hurry the heck up with the powerbook g4 rev e (probably 1.67GHz) so I can buy one [01:02] <|QuaD-> wtf? dual core g5? [01:02] <|QuaD-> powerbook? [01:03] patience young padawan [01:03] <|QuaD-> lol === seth_slackware [~seth@me-northanson1b-140.agstme.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:03] hey [01:03] nice brc [01:03] hello [01:03] :D === brc_ winks [01:03] What is the app that will set up cups printing in gnome ? [01:04] ? [01:04] BWHAHHAHAHAHHAA...run on toilet paper in phoenix [01:04] brc_, http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/01/27/apple_site_powerbook_g5/ [01:04] gnome-cups-manager [01:04] ? [01:04] how would i go abouts changing my ubuntu installation to a 32bit kernel? [01:04] can it be done? [01:04] I take anything from the register (other then BOFH) with a 50Lb bag of salt [01:05] http://www.thinksecret.com on the other hand... [01:05] shock: Thanks alot [01:05] np [01:05] Peter: dunno [01:05] try it =) === Rob|Nyc [~robnyc@pool-162-83-237-218.ny5030.east.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [01:05] it isnt listing it in the packet manager. [01:06] go figure.... why would you want to go to 32bit anyways? [01:06] man I will be SO annoyed when the g5 PB comes out and I have my g4 [01:06] drivers for video card are confusing me :> [01:07] how do I get the xine totem video player? [01:07] I've that weird problem again, whenever I unplug my power cord.. my laptop just immediately shuts off instead of using the battery from thereon.. someone gave me help.. some things to put in term.. it worked then. I guess it was only temporary.. because I've the same problem again. I don't remember if there was something external, but here is what he told me to do :s [01:07] without deinstalling ubuntu [01:08] root@tosh:/home/khan # /etc/init.d/acpid start // * Loading ACPI modules... [ ok ] // * Starting Advanced Configuration and Power Interface daemon... // root@tosh:/home/khan # /etc/init.d/acpid start/etc/init.d/acpi-support start // * Usage: /etc/init.d/acpid {start|stop|restart|reload|force-reload} // root@tosh:/home/khan # // [01:08] TheFlow, see ubuntuguide in the topic === HEyda [~jheyda@CPE-24-163-221-47.mn.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:08] <--- I wont.... as long as my g4 works smoothly [01:08] *g* [01:08] apt-get install totem-xine [01:08] ? [01:08] ubuntu is 16bit? [01:09] hrhr [01:09] bitfoo, no [01:09] :| [01:09] ubuntu is 2 bit! [01:09] :) [01:09] the problem is I *need* a notebook *yesterday*, and I really want a mac...otherwise I'd wait...I'll probably try to sell it when the g5 is released (/announced) [01:09] pasting and plugging deps [01:09] so get a different notebook :| [01:09] asus s5ne looks exactly like mac :| [01:10] I don't care how it looks on the outside :) === The_Nalf [fabrice@AToulouse-251-1-19-197.w82-125.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu [01:10] read reviews its pimp :| [01:10] weighs like 2 pounds ;O [01:10] tons of battery life and sub $2k [01:10] - actually... for the same price you get a decent IBM.... [01:11] can i install the intel x86 installation on my amd64? [01:11] but i like the mac, too === mg_ [~mg@spc1-leed3-6-0-cust18.seac.broadband.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:11] shock, yup....same, or less....much less depending.. [01:11] really [01:11] Peter, just guessing, but I'd guess yes [01:11] ibm for $1600? [01:11] well... here in germany powerbooks are around 2000 [01:12] :| [01:12] i always wanted a toughbook [01:12] so u get pretty damn good IBM or if you go no-name ...... [01:12] the real toughbook though, the itronix ones [01:12] the ones you can run over with a car :| [01:12] I dont intend to run over my laptop with a car [01:12] I wouldn't want the extra weight [01:12] wait [01:12] someone say they wanted a mac? [01:12] GROSSSSS [01:12] from the protective armor [01:12] http://www.mobilepcmag.com/reviews/2004_05/AsusS5NE.html [01:13] its not that much more :/ [01:13] maybe 11 pounds :O [01:13] hmm... [01:13] HA [01:13] lol [01:13] damn i want a notebook amd [01:13] I refuse to get anything heavier then 6.9LB's [01:13] :p [01:13] yeah when i was shopping i had to move my limit up to that range; at first i was like "nothing over 4 pounds." [01:13] but they were all to underpowered :| [01:14] yeah [01:14] and underpowered stinks [01:14] :P [01:14] :P [01:14] i would want a heavier one. [01:14] no...depends on what you're gonna do with it [01:14] the panasonic toughbooks are durable and lighter [01:14] recently, i keep getting a "Failed to fetch ... Bad header line" when installing/upgrading packages. The weird thing is that the URL it says is bad is absolutely fine with Firefox. [01:14] ya i would wnt it to last. === StoneTable [~stone@c-67-184-135-68.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:14] well.... Laptops are commonly used by me in university, home, work..... [01:15] yeah same :| [01:15] i would use mine at work, outside,college.. [01:15] home [01:15] so I consider my powerbook max weight I'd accept [01:15] shock, what pb you got? === scoon [~scoon@dsl092-234-243.phl1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:15] motherboard : PowerBook5,2 MacRISC3 Power Macintosh [01:15] detected as : 287 (PowerBook G4 15") [01:15] since i got linux i havent taken it with me though, since i cant get wireless and audio to work correctly :| [01:16] well... the internal broadcom chip is a pain [01:16] but the audio? [01:16] broadcom/ [01:16] its like 100% native linux support [01:16] ? [01:16] yeah [01:16] oh i dont have apple dude :| [01:16] the airport extreme [01:16] i have asus :D [01:16] oh ok [01:16] :P [01:17] shock, you running ubuntu on that g4pb? [01:17] and your audio wont work O_o [01:17] yes [01:17] heh [01:17] installed ... runs nice [01:17] dual booting? [01:17] yep === Arrogance [~aks@CPE0050ba556e4b-CM001225423850.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:17] well i did get xmms to work [01:17] 2.6.9-ppc-sleep7 <--- somehow I stopped building kernels once this worked (suspend ...) === ba747heavy [~fred@pcp0010914812pcs.lascruces.nm.albuq.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu [] [01:17] *g* [01:17] but everything else no :| [01:17] hm [01:18] extreme weirdness [01:18] http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=12891 [01:18] :/ === dirwolf [~dirwolf@dsl093-172-140.pit1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has left #ubuntu [] [01:18] EWWWW [01:18] oh i know what i was going to ask: in the wireless network settings in hoary, how do you put in the wep key? [01:18] the Asus S5NE doesn't have a built in cd drive === xhypno [~4220e7e2@lvs01.ahp.ftl.affinity.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:19] yeah thats why i didnt get that one :| [01:19] yeah I'd have to have an internal one [01:19] bitfoo - have you tried mplayer with the sdl output? [01:19] Has anyone here had problems with ReiserFS [01:19] ???? [01:19] # ao = sdl:esd [01:19] xhypno, works for me... [01:20] brc_, dynamism.com has the best laptops :| [01:20] and yes shock i tried that [01:20] says /dev/dsp is in use [01:20] but only esd is using it :/ [01:20] ao=alsa - thats what my default is [01:21] hmm [01:21] bitfoo: if esd isn't working properly you will get that error with mplayer [01:21] brc_, It was working for close to 2 months, I tried to do an upgrade to Hoary and it started to have trouble reading a tree node after it started to write python2.3. I tried to reiserfschk to drive, to rebuild sb and rebuild tree, but it seems to have killed to whole partition. Any suggestions???? === mxpxpod [~bryan@208.252.112.24] has joined #ubuntu [01:21] audio.device.alsa_front_device:default <---- ~/.xine/config ? [01:21] I ran it before when esd wasn't running and I got the same errror [01:21] HrdwrBoB, what should i change [01:22] bitfoo: try killall esd; esd [01:22] bitfoo: try killall esd; esd & even [01:22] esd & even? [01:22] xhypno, ugg :( ... I don't really know what to tell you to try, I've never had to recover a reiser partition (so far) === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [01:22] "killall esd; esd &" [01:23] thanks shock :) [01:23] Anyone else here recover a reiser partition yet??? [01:23] and esd even survives suspend/resume without a hassle, for me [01:23] *g* [01:23] no reiserfs here [01:23] :) [01:23] xhypno: what's wrong with it? === stone__ [~stone@c-67-184-135-68.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:23] HrdwrBoB, scroll up a bit... [01:24] tr@area-01:/etc $ cat esound/esd.conf [01:24] [esd] [01:24] auto_spawn=0 [01:24] spawn_options=-terminate -nobeeps -as 5 [01:24] spawn_wait_ms=100 [01:24] # default options are used in spawned and non-spawned mode [01:24] It is read turning a read error at block 33306, this is the block that it was using to write python2.3. I then fsck, rebuild sb, rebuild tree and it seems to be dead [01:24] default_options= [01:24] @ bitfoo [01:24] ahh ok === eric [~eric@aaimail.biz] has joined #ubuntu [01:24] maybe something there? [01:24] brc_: cheers [01:24] xhypno: looks like your drive is cactus [01:25] xhypno: you'll have to run badblocks in some way [01:25] I'm not sure of how to do it in reiserfs === auto_ [~auto@bgp01038385bgs.sothwt01.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:25] I think I do, but I don't think it is a physical prob with the block === reinaldo_ [~reinaldo@CM-lflo2-19-159.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:25] hmm === mxpxpod is now known as mx|gone [01:26] xhypno: http://www.namesys.com/bad-block-handling.html [01:26] mine looks exactly the same :O === quitte [~quitte@p54A0E503.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:26] @ shock [01:26] thanks Hrdwr [01:26] hoary is broken at the moment? === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [01:27] is it possible to 32bit kernel, without reformatting the entire 64bit system? === erik [~erik@66.252.41.226] has joined #ubuntu [01:27] killall did nothing :| [01:27] Peter, sure [01:27] hey, when I try to suspend my laptop it comes out of suspend immediately after entering it. Anyone know how to fix that? [01:27] i can't install anything that has some sort of depends on libbonoboui2-common. [01:27] version conflict [01:27] brc_: how? :) [01:29] Peter, use synaptic and search for kernel...fwiw I haven't (yet) changed my kernel in ubuntu with synaptic...but I've done it many times in debian with apt so I'd expect it to work [01:29] why do you want to downgrade? [01:29] where is synaptic in hoary on that note o_O [01:29] desktop->administration [01:29] i dont have it lol :| [01:29] O_o [01:29] my hoary installation must be really screwed :| === Locutus1976 [~dstahan@MTL-HSE-ppp177820.qc.sympatico.ca] has joined #Ubuntu [01:30] bitfoo, open a terminal, type which synaptic [01:30] maybe it didnt finish? [01:30] it's a shame gnome doesn't have a menu editor yet :( [01:30] bitfoo@horus:~ $ which synaptic [01:30] bitfoo@horus:~ $ [01:30] :| === mike998 [user66@CPE0050bf78a2a0-CM014080207323.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:30] i must apt-get it i think :O [01:30] apt-get -f install ? [01:31] brc_: im not seeing any kernels that arent AMD64. [01:31] cause synaptic should be there on default ubuntu hoary === stub [~stub@dsl-246.248.240.220.dsl.comindico.com.au] has joined #ubuntu === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [01:31] Can anyone recommend a cd burning program for burning mp3s to CD? I tried K3b, but it didn't work for me. [01:31] ANyone used gnomevfs and know how to add an ftp server ? (thats what i figured i could do with it. [01:32] Peter, uhm....ok...I see the amd64 kernels and I'm on 32 bit...so I'm not sure why [01:32] then again I'm using universe and multiverse [01:32] Linux kernel image for version 2.6 on generic x86_64 systems [01:33] thats 64bit yeah? [01:33] yup [01:33] again, why do you want a kernel compiled for 32b? [01:33] so i can run cedega === xevil [mageerc@host-216-77-195-53.jan.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:34] ahh [01:34] yeah if anyone figures out how to run cedega on amd64 ubuntu I'd like a link to the howto :) [01:34] i installed a hoary-ia32 chroot and it doesn't work [01:34] cedega errors out [01:34] you might try adding universe I suppose...shouldn't have to though === farruinn [~nathan@syr-69-201-15-107.twcny.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:34] mine works [01:34] but ati drivers dont [01:35] or, i dont know how to install them correctly :) === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu === smogger914 [~max@adsl-64-171-50-178.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has left #ubuntu [] === krischan [~krischan@p5090B6C5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:38] (more likely, thinking about it) === mbp_ [~mbp@57.16.168.202.velocitynet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu === Scay [~Scay@c83-252-143-118.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu === ditCh [ditch@drunk.ditch.be] has joined #ubuntu [01:40] whats better for 3d, xorg or xfree? === geneo93 [~geneo93@1Cust6177.an3.det15.da.uu.net] has joined #ubuntu === guptan [~guptan@lbd126.emirates.net.ae] has joined #ubuntu [01:41] uh... [01:41] xorg is just a newer version of xfree [01:41] oh :/ [01:41] from a non-legal standpoint [01:41] hey Cube-ness why is my fps so slow now [01:42] which would mean xorg is better, right? ... === scizzo [~scizzo@c-f70f72d5.01-113-76786a1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu [01:42] right. [01:42] sure === reinaldo_ [~reinaldo@CM-lflo2-19-159.cm.vtr.net] has left #ubuntu ["Abandonando"] [01:42] i mean [01:42] "probably" [01:42] (to answer Peter's question anyway) [01:42] new versions are better more than 50% of the time I guess :p [01:42] hehe, right =) [01:42] new, _stable_ versions =) === HrdwrBoB [~matt@bob.is.teh.admin.at.vicnet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [01:45] seb128: et ensuite ? [01:45] oops [01:47] is there any form of graphics benchmark facility? [01:47] glxgears ? [01:47] glxinfo is informative, too - but not a benchmark [01:47] *g* === Ycros [~Ycros@c211-30-18-47.thorn1.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu === _Ribs_ [~freenode@riblet.plus.com] has joined #ubuntu === _Ribs_ is now known as Ribs === jono [~jono@80.68.82.48] has joined #ubuntu === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [01:52] hi all === aperson [~aperson@206.173.112.149.ptr.us.xo.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:52] hoi === aperson [~aperson@206.173.112.149.ptr.us.xo.net] has left #ubuntu ["I] [01:53] I found that linux-source-2.6.8.1 cotains a powerpc/power4-smp config [01:54] but the kernel image is not shipped on the CD - why? === zenrox [~zenrox@wbar7.sea1-4-10-181-189.sea1.dsl-verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:54] nir: because the kernel images wouldn't all fit on a CD === usual [~colin@alb-69-204-175-222.nycap.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu === alexcm [~alexcm@200-161-219-242.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #ubuntu [01:55] but creating that kernel yourself is the worst exprience for a new user [01:55] its the best way to keep users from using ubuntu [01:55] O_o [01:55] um wtf? [01:56] actually once that system becomes more commonly used.... [01:56] that kernel might be included someday [01:56] :) [01:56] all two users are mortified === xvers [xvers@186sdl30m8.codetel.net.do] has joined #ubuntu === toresbe doesn't exactly picture POWER4 SMP systems COMMON === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [01:56] hey..can anyone help me with a nic im having problems installing? [01:56] but SMP macs, indeed === miqer [~griap@user-12lcfef.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:56] that all pro G5 systems === stuNNed [~stuNNed@adsl-068-209-149-165.sip.msy.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:57] xvers: quite probably [01:57] does someone use gnomemeeting ? where can i register to ils.seconix.com ? === ficusplanet [~brad@12-216-228-198.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:57] i try to compile and it gives me this error: makefile:16 : *** Linux kernel source not found. Stop [01:58] xvers: what network card [01:58] EfaistOs: gnomemeeting does that for you [01:58] its the one that comes integrated with the abit kv8 pro ... vt6122 [01:58] via [01:59] xvers: apt-get install kernel-headers-`uname -r` [01:59] that'll help? [01:59] thanks [01:59] ..ill try it [02:00] does that use the internet...because i cant access it [02:00] ? [02:00] u are online =) [02:00] *hint* [02:00] im on another computer [02:00] i have broadband.. cant access without nic === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [02:01] cr*p [02:01] :/ [02:01] any other ideas? please [02:02] then i guess u have to download the kernel-headders dep to this computer [02:02] copy it to the other and then install it by dpkg -i k...dep [02:02] this one has windows [02:02] so? [02:02] uhm, nub question: At term, for something like "^C Cancel" . . . I press Ctrl + C or something or what? [02:02] jup [02:02] Br34ch, ctrl+c [02:02] how do i download the kernel-headers? [02:03] got it, thank you === Dreamer3 [~unknown@sdn-ap-009tnnashP0029.dialsprint.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:03] running apt-get update on a stock ubuntu cd results in "method http has died unexpectedly"... is this to be "expected"? [02:03] no [02:04] well yes [02:04] ? === |rufius| [~suifur@suifur.linuxfordummies] has joined #ubuntu [02:04] how do i download the kernel-headers? <--- from the ubuntu-ftp ? [02:05] ftp://ftp.ubuntu.com/ === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu === Dreamer3 wonders if any debian sarge users are here... [02:05] thanks === mpool [~mbp@57.16.168.202.velocitynet.com.au] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === stub [~stub@dsl-246.248.240.220.dsl.comindico.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [02:05] my router runs debian-sarge === xvers [xvers@186sdl30m8.codetel.net.do] has left #ubuntu [] === Dreamer3 wonders if ubuntu is faster... [02:06] i'm using a bootable CD now and it sure _seems_ that way... [02:06] is ubuntu-amd64 run "as 64bit" as debian-pure64 ? [02:06] dpkg-buildpackage failed with power4-smp [02:07] I get Assember messages: Error: Unrecognized opcode: `movl' [02:08] proabably in [drivers/net/ndiswrapper/misc_funcs.o] [02:08] maybe its problem with altivec support that I added to the config? [02:08] if your network is not up [02:08] and you have selected to get packaghes from the net [02:08] swim: yes [02:08] amd64 is 64 bit === TongMaster [~TongMaste@adsl-2-82.lo1.lns1.server-access.com] has joined #ubuntu [02:09] HrdwrBoB, than is there a difference between debian-amd64 and debian-pure64 ? === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [02:09] swim: I'm not 100% sure [02:09] I think amd64 is lib32/lib64 system [02:10] could be wrong though [02:10] amd64 is lib and lib32 [02:10] yeah [02:10] that would make sense, I wonder if 64bit system would run better with just pure64 ? [02:10] not really, but there's a whole lot less .. complications === ollie [~orutherfu@adsl-141-156-55-245.ba-dsg.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:11] but also things that cause problems [02:11] does running 32 as wells as 64 bit slow down the system sonme? [02:11] like flash and what have you === Orbo [~cam@207.75.226.175] has joined #ubuntu [02:13] hi, I could use a little help with cd sound? === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [02:14] it plays fine when I insert a disc but there's no sound === Dreamer3 wonders if ubuntu will be default mount and use usb memory sticks without any setup === Dreamer3 just doesn't have one to test [02:15] Dreamer3, it will. === usual watches beagle compile === abelli_ [~abelli@adsl-84-222-39-4.tiscali.it] has joined #ubuntu [02:15] any former debian-sarge now ubuntu uses? [02:15] Dreamer3, me...well debian unstable [02:15] Alright . . . so I open Openoffice Writer.. and usually I am able to open it, it shows the splash screen.. loading . . . and it just.. disappears suddenly. At this time, I have various things opened.. and my ram is insultingly dangerous - is this why it just.. disappears? [02:16] usual: i'm trying to gauge (subjectively) if it's faster [02:16] Dreamer3: I'm formerly debian [02:16] dreamer, I wouldn't say faster.....you mean faster in what sense? [02:17] HrdwrBoB, do you think that running 32 as wells as 64 bit slow down the system some? [02:17] usual: programs open/run/respond, etc... the bootable CD feels faster than my system... === BrokenCode [~overflow@217.129.16.139] has joined #ubuntu [02:17] howdy [02:17] If anyone answers my question.. I'll give them a cookie :) [02:17] swim: not really but it's a pain in the butt to maintain [02:18] Dreamer3, I think it's snappy, but I just don't know if I would say faster, depends on how things are setup === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [02:18] usual: hmmmmm [02:18] usual: my laptop is p3/900, looking for anyting to speed it up a bit [02:18] Br34ch: can you try running oowriter in a terminal? [02:18] Dreamer3, slackware is very snappy [02:18] HrdwrBoB, why isnt there a pure 64 ubuntu? do you think there will be eventually? [02:19] usual: *laughs* [02:19] um [02:19] there is [02:19] usual: i'm too hooked on debian :) [02:19] ? [02:19] usual: or else i'd try fedora, etc [02:19] What file has all of the tasks that are started up when Ubuntu boots? [02:19] oh, heh, it's not [02:20] HrdwrBoB, it's not pure64 ? === neighborlee wants to know about what file contains startup modules as well..as in i'd like to 'axe' a few of them === toothpick [~Neils@pcp01993813pcs.plsntv01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:21] sorry, I'm a retard === encKe` [~encKe`@adsl-65-70-97-85.dsl.mdldtx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu === froust [~liam@S0106000f6694d7bf.ed.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:21] neighborlee, hikaru79: rcconf is a nice tool that allows you to change that [02:21] The distrowatch release note sounds like the livecd comes with tools to make your own livecd based on ubuntu...am I reading this correctly? [02:21] HrdwrBoB, speaking of startup..are ubuntu devs consdiering a better install and gui startup screen more like what FC uses ? [02:21] awww......im loving this distro [02:21] farruinn, ahhhhh ic...thanks you so much indeed for the heads up [02:21] hello everyone [02:21] neighborlee: it's in the pipeline [02:21] encKe`, we love it too [02:22] HrdwrBoB, okay very nice [02:22] HrdwrBoB: for hoary even, no? [02:22] neighborlee: graphical installis not likely for hoary [02:22] HrdwrBoB, very glad to hear that...very [02:22] however graphical boot is quite possible === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [02:22] HrdwrBoB, but for upcoming anyway right [02:22] can anybody help me? [02:22] yes, it's still in the todo list [02:22] HrdwrBoB, kewl [02:22] excellent even [02:23] HrdwrBoB, I wonder if they are considering anaconda? [02:23] no. [02:23] Orbo, whats up [02:23] anaconda is not even a vague possibility [02:23] we did consider anaconda [02:23] neighborlee: how do get cd audio working? [02:23] hmm why not I wonder..its free [02:23] cd's play fine [02:23] jdub: oh ok [02:23] xmms plays cda fine [02:24] but with no sound [02:24] My screen goes black after a short wile idle, i'v checked screensaver perfs but its all on 2 hours. ANy ideas? [02:24] Orbo: hmmm...what card and is 'sound enabled' in your desktop settings area === SackeR [~sacker@206.74.57.91] has joined #ubuntu [02:24] jdub: any thoughts on having a graphical ui for a dvd install? [02:24] Orbo, computer > desktop preferences > sound : make sure its enabled [02:25] is there an evolution-sharp package in hoary? something -cil [02:25] audigy 2 === mannaman [~mannaman1@205.144.222.2] has joined #ubuntu [02:25] i know that [02:25] it wasnt [02:25] lemme try again now [02:25] Wes is in DA HOUSE!! [02:25] Orbo: ohhh..yeah fairly new'ish card..i'm not sure it works yet actually ;( [02:25] hello all [02:25] Orbo, ok [02:25] mannaman, hi [02:25] farruinn: there are sketchy plans. [02:25] neighborlee, nothing [02:25] all digital sound files work fine [02:26] my cdrom is connected by an analog input [02:26] do I need a digital cable? [02:26] Im new to this chat thing, can anyone point me to the direction of a German chat? === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [02:26] guess now? [02:26] not* [02:26] mannaman: maybe #ubuntu-de? [02:27] okioe thnx === JanC [JanC@dD576201C.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu [02:28] http://www.ignition-project.com/node/view/347 [02:28] does it matter that my cdrom is connected via analog input? === thully [~thully@pm482-14.dialip.mich.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:28] do I need a digital cable for sound to work? [02:28] Orbo: tbh I would recommend using sound-juicer to rip the CD [02:28] and then play the resulting files [02:28] ive been doing that [02:28] put the CD back in the case [02:29] and on the shelf [02:29] its just annoying [02:29] the xmms plugins aren't working? === nightwolf [~nightwolf@xtreme-154-193.dyn.aci.on.ca] has joined #ubuntu [02:29] cdread or whatever it is? [02:30] farruinn, well xmms reads the cd perfectly fine [02:30] but no sound comes out [02:30] mannaman #kanotix ;) has plenty of german speakers [02:30] anyone else having trouble getting .mov files to play in firefox ?..the window starts ( I have vlc installed for mozilla) but it can't seem to play it ;( === josephus_ [~josephus@adsl-68-88-200-199.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [02:30] Hi - anyone know of an affordable flash player that plays OGGs (iriver is too expensive compared to MP3 players) [02:31] I have mplayer-custom installed which mozplugger needs...that or maybe mplayer-custom wont work with mozplugger ? === dylaw [~dylaw@i-83-67-16-40.freedom2surf.net] has joined #ubuntu === hakdiplanet [~gsgdgs@ool-43518c84.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:33] hi === EvolutionR [~Username@218.208.201.95] has joined #ubuntu === Quest-Master [~qmaster@c-24-99-26-36.atl.client2.attbi.com] has joined #ubuntu === stuNNed [~stuNNed@adsl-068-209-149-165.sip.msy.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:34] hakdiplanet, hi there === jdodson [~jdodson@63-230-173-38.ptld.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:34] sorry farruinn , I missed that. Anyways . . . heh, I'm a nub, please be more detailed ;\ === Seq [~chris@CPE0050bf1a898b-CM013349902353.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu === froust [~liam@S0106000f6694d7bf.ed.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu === mannaman [~mannaman1@205.144.222.2] has left #ubuntu [] === BrokenCode [~overflow@217.129.16.139] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === Cindux [BOSS@d141-147-129.home.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu === drspin [~cole@ip68-2-119-141.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #Ubuntu [02:37] Can anyone breifly explain why celerons are bad ? [02:37] anyone suggest an EPOC emulator? [02:37] cindux: basically they are stripped down versions of pentiums. [02:38] Cindux: it's like a pentium 4 [02:38] hm [02:38] with all of the disadvantages [02:38] and none of the advantages [02:38] = / === ollie [~orutherfu@adsl-141-156-55-245.ba-dsg.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:38] except it's cheap [02:38] hm [02:38] I dont do any gaming at all [02:38] cindux: right, there is no reason they make them, save they can offer them at a cheaper cost. [02:38] or anything that would basically run my "computer" at its max [02:39] :P [02:39] cindux: they perform worse than a pentium. [02:39] hi all, I just did a dist-upgrade using hoary and now my video resolution has dropped significantly [02:39] would you recommend it for me ? [02:39] can you install Ubuntu without burning it to CD? [02:39] i wouldnt use it for anything other than web design === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [02:39] install off net [02:39] cindux: i would just go AMD, more bang for your (insert currency here) [02:39] so id be using GIMP,text editor & web browser [02:39] i dont need bang lol [02:39] i was looking at this barebone http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=8132&ViewDetailedSpecifications=1#systemfeature [02:40] when I first boot the computer, it says for a while "cannot display this resolution", but if I switch to a console and let it be for a few, I can switch by to X and have like 640x480 (or something like that) [02:40] right now i run a P3 600mhz PC [02:40] Cindux: better off with a sempron [02:40] link ? [02:40] it's been working just fine for a while [02:40] does ubuntu support network installation? [02:41] also, I can't view the "Screen Resolution" app -- it tries to open for a bit, then closes itself === sladen [paul@starsky.19inch.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:41] anyone have any tips, ideas, or suggestions on how to troubleshoot? [02:42] sladen, am I going to hear back from you re: usplash? [02:42] CRAP! evolution is totally ***** [02:42] and thunderbird is bugging now, too?? [02:42] can i use apt-get to download a new kernel? [02:42] The distrowatch release note sounds like the livecd comes with tools to make your own livecd based on ubuntu...am I reading this correctly? [02:42] Peter, yes [02:42] ollie, my first thought is your video card shrug..but i'm no pro on such things...have any other issues with games or apps or..... [02:43] is there a site listing all the files avalible via apt get? [02:43] toothpick: it doesn't come with tools, it is designed to help make custom livecds [02:43] Peter, try using synaptic to browse === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [02:43] neighborlee: it's been working just fine for quite some time, I did a dist-upgrade, now it doesn't [02:43] it isnt listing the kernel i want, tritium [02:43] not much of an upgrade ;-) [02:43] Peter, if you have something specific in mind, you can use "apt-cache search" to search [02:44] Peter, which one do you want? [02:44] jdub, can you elaborate like one more sentence...not tools? but will make a custom live cd? [02:44] most recent x86 kernel [02:44] ollie, hmm ic..no idea then as im using stock ubuntu [02:44] crap... its 3 o clock and i need to be uni @ 0800 [02:44] *sigh* [02:44] ollie, if no one here knows i'd consult one of the online forums [02:44] neighborlee: ok, thank you [02:44] ollie, good luck << [02:45] ollie, can you look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log for any error message, warnings, etc? [02:45] if any ubuntu maintainer reads this quietly: "PLZ FIX EVOLUTION" *sniff* [02:45] tritium: im currently using an amd64 kernel, and want to drop it back to the x86 kernel [02:45] shock, whats wrong with evo for you [02:45] toothpick: it doesn't come *with* tools, but we've designed it to be easily customisable. there are some docs on the wiki. [02:45] shock, i'm ran it and find it works fine but then your use may be different [02:45] 1. calendar wont save "malformed uri" [02:46] jdub ok thanks. [02:46] I'll go there. [02:46] I've lol [02:46] 2. mail shows all imap folders twice [02:46] shock, shrug yeah ic..I use neither of those things 'atm' [02:46] shock, :( [02:47] uhm..heh, another nub question: What exactly is the difference between command line and terminal? :x [02:47] great and thunderbird hangs on startup [02:47] shock, either use other email app or consider I guess getting help at : irc.gnome.org | #evolution [02:47] and balsa gives me BadAlloc [02:47] shock, odd..i've used thunderbird and didn't experience the hang ..shrug [02:47] back to mutt for me [02:47] =) === seneca [seneca@host-66-156-138-194.bgk.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:47] Peter, perhaps because of the architecture difference [02:47] ur not running powerpc are you? [02:47] :) === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [02:48] tritium: oh [02:48] tritium: a lot of warnings about mode clock XXX exceeds DDC max 140MHz [02:48] so it isnt possible/ [02:48] Br34ch, command line is a user interface type [02:48] shock, heh that would be a no ;-) === seneca is now known as shad91 === usual [~colin@alb-69-204-175-222.nycap.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [02:48] :) [02:48] terminal is a device that uses command line inteface === talibkweli [~okplayer0@c-67-176-19-93.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:49] shock, I don't think we're all experiencing those problems [02:49] tritium: then something about an Extended BIOS functions failing [02:49] well [02:49] nir: I'm sorry, I'm still confused.. :s [02:49] I just hope its getting better [02:49] nir: Any nub links that might explain and set down the basics? [02:49] and no /dev/apm_bios === AshleyK [~TXtoucian@ppp236-202.lns1.bne3.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:49] tritium: if i got the name of the kernel and used apt get -- would it work? [02:50] Br34ch, I don't remember any now, try Googling for those words [02:50] oh well - I'm off to sleep now [02:50] c yas [02:50] cu l8r [02:50] Peter, I'm not too sure about i386 packages on amd64. I don't think apt on one architecture can "see" packages on another architecture. [02:50] nir: I have been doing that, didn't find any "nub FAQ's" and such, but I'll give it another shot. thanks [02:50] http://www.ubuntuguide.org/ [02:50] Peter, but I've never tried anything like that [02:50] oh :/ [02:51] Peter, are all the kernel listed amd64 specific? [02:51] Is there any "Mail Monitor" for panel that supports SSL? [02:51] considering things used to work fine, then just stopped, should I report a bug? the bug reporting page says to check here before submitting a bug report. [02:51] yes === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [02:52] Peter, I think you'll have to download off an archive then, to get it [02:52] hmm [02:53] archive? [02:53] Peter, http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-meta/ [02:53] ollie: no - don't report a bug... it sounds like you just need to reconfigure X [02:54] Br34ch, try this for example: http://www.tqnyc.org/tutorial/command_line/index.php?s=T [02:54] ollie, could you try manually entering your HorizSync and VertRefresh in /etc/X11/xorg.con ? === EfaistOs [~efaistos@m239.net81-64-31.noos.fr] has joined #ubuntu === budfox [~Bud@adsl-68-94-183-108.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:54] xorg.conf, that is [02:54] tritium: ollie: yes [02:55] doe the dist upgrade copy the settings from XF86Config-4 file to the xorg.conf? [02:55] nir: lol.. was just on that one, seems nice and comprehensive enough for me. thanks again [02:55] drspin: tritium: ok, I'll try that -- though it might be related to bug #5864 [02:56] what no link?? j/k === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [02:57] ollie, ok [02:57] checking for X... no [02:57] configure: error: X Window system libraries and header files are required [02:57] What package I need to install? === kakalto [~kakalto@wired-210-54-56-210.ps.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu [02:58] ollie: that's a possibility -- [02:58] ollie: I wasn't being specific to your hardware yet ;) === theine [~theine@x1-6-00-0c-41-7e-f9-af.k200.webspeed.dk] has joined #ubuntu [02:59] EvolutionR: xlibs-dev for Warty [02:59] EvolutionR, probably xlibs-dev or libx11 [02:59] -dev [02:59] crimsun probably knows better than I === odo_ is now known as odo [03:00] that's correct, tritium [03:00] :) [03:00] not that I know better, but that those packages are correct :) === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [03:01] heh :) [03:01] thanks guys!!!!!!!!1 [03:01] I have to thank to all the Ubuntu developers as I don't think that using a computer can get any more pleasent than with Hoary on an IBM Thinkpad === shad91 [seneca@host-66-156-138-194.bgk.bellsouth.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [03:01] It's just fantastic [03:02] theine: just wait til hoary+1 hits ;) [03:04] What's the terminal command for deleting something? === bitfoo [~bitfoo@rdu26-78-203.nc.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [03:04] Quest-Master: rm [03:04] anyone here use hoary + wireless? [03:04] :) [03:04] bitfoo, yes [03:04] bitfoo: I do [03:04] how do you put in the WEP key? === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [03:04] the hex? [03:04] How can I remove a folder then? [03:05] or the pass or what [03:05] bitfoo, in /etc/network/interfaces [03:05] Quest-Master: rm -r [03:05] i cant connect to my network anyway :| [03:05] :D [03:05] oh you cant do it in gnome? [03:05] I've deleted some files on my home directory on Gnome 2.8 ubuntu...I dont see any recycle bin? is there any ? I dont want to waste hdd space! [03:05] i tried password, s:password, and hex of password in network config :O [03:05] hello #ubuntu [03:05] there is new hoary livecd release no? [03:05] is the ICA usable in Terminal Services Client? [03:05] EvolutionR: trash:/// [03:06] bitfoo: i can do it in Gnome [03:06] its greyed out [03:06] okie thanks [03:06] bitfoo, there's a gnome interface too [03:06] yeah desktop > administration > networks [03:06] bitfoo: just double click the network applet and configure... [03:06] thx [03:07] yeah but i mean i put in the network name [03:07] and then the wep key === beetlebum [~paul@ACD4EDF5.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu [03:07] and cant connect :| [03:07] how do you put in the wep key, in hex? [03:07] aaa-aaa-aaa? [03:07] : where? type in terminal? [03:07] hmmmmmmmm [03:08] bitfoo: hmmm, actually i never have to use a wep key, so i cannot really tell... [03:08] the help is broken on that menu which is why i ask [03:08] EvolutionR: In the address bar in Nautilus [03:08] bitfoo, the format should be the same as in iwconfig. try the iwconfig man page [03:08] okie [03:08] theine...and how fast a thinkpad? === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [03:09] toothpivk: well it's certainly fast enough plus it still supports APM which makes it so very nice to use under Linux [03:09] what does prepend or append [index] mean [03:09] Quest-Master: I like to create a shortcut/ launcher for the "Trash" on my desktop. Where's the bin located at? [03:09] theine, what about ACPI? [03:09] theine, rad i'm glad you like ubuntu...me too === Neil3 [~neil@host81-156-234-104.range81-156.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu [03:10] tritium: for some reason ACPU consumes a lot more battery in stand-by [03:10] ACPI [03:10] bitfoo, prepend means to put it in front of, append means to put it at the end [03:10] neighborlee, do you know if ICA protocol is usable in Terminal Services Client? [03:11] theine, I see [03:11] neighborlee: if you ask me, Ubuntu is state of the art right now [03:11] rofl i know that [03:11] wtf is [index] i mean :| [03:11] it is nice [03:12] can anyone help me to install Ubuntu [03:12] I like to create a shortcut/ launcher for the "Trash" on my desktop. Where's the bin located at? How? [03:12] talibweli: install ubuntu ? u have the iso downloaded? [03:13] bitfoo, when you have several keys, you specify which one to use [03:13] hi all, i;m running Hoary and in the last hour i've had 3 hard crashes(everything freezes up, and i have to switch off the machine). how can i help debug these? === defendguin [~supertux@ip68-0-57-44.no.no.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:13] well i have the cd from shipit === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [03:13] but i have Fc3 already installed [03:13] i want to dual boot [03:13] EvolutionR: Right-click somewhere on your panel, click Add to Panel and add a Trash Applet [03:13] Then you can click on it and go to your Trash Bin whenever you want [03:14] woohoo [03:14] everyone cheer for me [03:14] going from a 600mhz pc to 2.4ghz / 256mb ram :d [03:15] ohhh quite easy [03:15] any ubuntu devs/bug fixers here? where can i go for info on system crashes? [03:15] i've entered the gigahertz! [03:15] whats wierd is that all the wireless networks are reversed [03:15] talk about an upgrade [03:15] lol yeps [03:15] ie, the unencrypted appear encrypted and vice versa :| [03:15] only gonna cost me 233$ canadian to [03:15] or so the icons would lead you to believe :| [03:15] i dont game but it comes with onboard sound,lan & 64mb vidoe [03:16] encKe`, hmm out my league sorry :( [03:16] theine, yeah I love it myself .. [03:16] thanks [03:16] talibweli: u still want the FC3 install? if not u can install ubuntu on it? [03:16] bitfoo, I don't use essids. The APs I access are open, but require vpn to get to anywhere === maximaus [~maximaus@user-37kaced.dialup.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu [03:16] theine, I think it is too...only thing 'missing' is easier working with files [03:16] yes i want to keep my fc3 install [03:17] beetlebum: maybe you can find some helpful information in /var/log [03:17] i think i am just going to format, reinstall warty and immediately go to hoary before doing any packages :| [03:17] doing=installing === maximaus [~maximaus@user-37kaced.dialup.mindspring.com] has left #ubuntu [] [03:17] bitfoo, did you try the new Hoary live CD by chance? [03:17] yes [03:17] theine, ta, i'll have a look [03:17] it worked fine [03:17] theine,nm I meant menus... === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [03:17] but tritium, i did apt-get dist-upgrade instead of apt-get upgrade [03:17] therein i think lies the problem :| === drspin [~cole@ip68-2-119-141.ph.ph.cox.net] has left #Ubuntu [] === AshleyK [~TXtoucian@ppp236-202.lns1.bne3.internode.on.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === maximaus [~maximaus@user-37kaced.dialup.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu [03:17] talibweli: then u have to prepare another partition on your hard disk for the Ubuntun installation [03:18] bitfoo, did you pay attention to what packages were removed? [03:18] talib kweli is awesome :| [03:18] i have no idea what was removed :| [03:18] yea he is [03:18] if its automagic it should work :| [03:18] it's not so automagic [03:18] so i can use fdisk or qtparted [03:18] to make the partition === LordGolem_ [~LordGolem@host38-200.pool80116.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu [03:19] talibweli: okie as u like [03:19] talibweli: wat's ur problem then? [03:19] bitfoo, don't use dist-upgrade [03:19] thats what i was wondering mainly [03:19] yeah i think that is why my sound isn't working correctly and why i cant connect to wep networks :| [03:19] i can connect fine to open :/ [03:19] neighborlee: ok, but that's not a major issue, that is not likely to be solved in the near future [03:20] would i have to prepare a partitiion for ubuntu [03:20] or could i do it in the install [03:20] thats all === beetlebum [~paul@ACD4EDF5.ipt.aol.com] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === monoxide [~monoxide0@dialup-102.29.221.203.acc11-dryb-mel.comindico.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [03:21] hi [03:21] so im looking forward to compare fc3 vs ubuntu [03:21] talibweli: u can try to partition on a partition magic / qparted / fdisk for easy partition on the ubuntu. If not u can straight away do it on the ubuntu! [03:21] anyone here use SATA with ubutnu? [03:21] talibkweli, why not try the livecd instead :| === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [03:21] im having troubles [03:22] theine, totally agreed [03:22] talibweli: FC3 is far away improvements than Ubuntu...still long way to go! [03:22] i can use the livecd with FC3 [03:22] theine, minor nuisance at best [03:22] yes [03:22] certainly [03:22] ok well ill give it a spin [03:22] good night [03:22] Good luck [03:22] neighborlee: yeah, one does get a lttle bit spoiled :) [03:23] can anyone help me with using a sata drive with ubuntu? [03:23] How to install .deb files? [03:23] EvolutionR, dpkg -i [03:23] evolutionR thanks [03:23] tritium: thanks [03:23] yep [03:23] neighborlee: ...when using such a marvelous operating system === billytwowilly [~chris@S0106000c413a2c0c.ed.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:23] talibweli: np! [03:23] theine, yuppers [03:23] minor nuisances should still be fixed i think :| === Stuttergart [~Stutterga@im.nathanvalentine.org] has joined #ubuntu [03:24] if they are easy :| [03:24] hi, I have been using rsync -avz to backup my stuff and it hasn't been deleting the old stuff in the mirror. If I wanted rsync to update /mnt/md0/chris to an exact copy of /home/chris how would I setup the command? [03:24] well one thing I do really NOT like atm..is how nautilus works..I utterly can't stand how it opens new windows for everything === mike998 [~mike@CPE0050bf78a2a0-CM014080207323.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu [03:24] neighborlee, change it [03:24] BUT...I know that can be remedied if only I remembered how LOL [03:24] neighborlee, you can fix that somewhat in the configuration thing. [03:25] i recently bought a new sata hdd, and i plugged it in, and on the first boot it worked fine. i partitioned it, made an fs on it, mounted it, moved stuuf onto it, but it in /etc/fstab, and now my comp wont boot [03:25] I think it's called gconf [03:25] I know...trying-to-remember where [03:25] wait..gconf [03:25] lol yeah [03:25] one of the sections anyway...checking <<< [03:25] neighborlee, you don't have to use gconf editor anymore [03:25] "configuration editor" [03:25] billytwowilly, yup thats what I meant [03:26] in nautilus window: Edit->Preferences->Behavior [03:26] neighborlee: let me know if you find out as i forgot as well === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [03:26] under "Behavior": check "Always open on browser windows" [03:26] tritium, kewl ic it thx [03:26] neighborlee, :) [03:26] tritium, hmm I guess it changed since last ubuntu...I dont recall that being there before === zippy [~asdffwffw@70-32-241-191.ontrca.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:26] is there new ubuntu install cd or just live [03:27] I think just live and install === Neil3 [~neil@host81-156-234-104.range81-156.btcentralplus.com] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [03:27] bitfoo, there are daily builds of both [03:27] huh [03:27] you have link to hoary build install cd? [03:27] tritium, life saver LOL [03:27] neighborlee, better? [03:28] tritium: yeah, that is better [03:28] I swear, ubuntu must be quite well funded. Their servers never seem to be slow. [03:28] theine, good deal [03:28] tritium, lol tons [03:28] there are way more people in the chan than for mandrake, and they have had lots of problems with speed. [03:28] The founder is like.. a millionaire [03:29] bandwidth bills can add up quickly.. He must be spending 10-20 grand a month on bandwidth.. [03:29] i think there is only hoary livecd not install [03:29] billytwobilly: i for one gave up on any non-debian based distros... === Locutus1976 [~dstahan@MTL-HSE-ppp177820.qc.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu === NetwrkMonkey [~Monkey@netwrkmonkey.user] has joined #ubuntu [03:30] bitfoo, there are daily builds of both [03:30] theine, suse is nice, but not quite as nice as ubuntu.. well yast is nicer than the ubuntu config (or lack of config) app... [03:30] thats fine but there arent isos of both === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [03:30] bitfoo, http://archive.ubuntu.com/cdimage/daily/20050127/ [03:30] :| [03:30] i guess im just dumb :| [03:31] will hoary be out before april? If it is my student group will install it at our next installfest. [03:31] no, you just hadn't found it yet [03:31] billytwowilly, suse had been working on their gui config tools for like 5 years and they still blow [03:31] billytwowilly: during april [03:31] eww no 686 :/ [03:31] oh well [03:31] april 9ish is the installfest [03:31] can anyone help me with my new hard drive? [03:31] bitfoo, grab -386 [03:31] wtf is an installfest o_O [03:31] billytwobilly: sure, they do a good job, but I fancy the Ubuntu approach of integrating the administration tools with Gnome a lot more === nevyn_ [~nevyn@c211-28-49-238.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu === maximaus [~maximaus@user-37kaced.dialup.mindspring.com] has left #ubuntu [] [03:31] hmmmmmmmmmmmm [03:31] ok tritium [03:32] we advertise all over the university to come down and we'll install linux for free. [03:32] a bunch of people get together and install linux, and help each other with it [03:32] hmm...so the hoary live cd is not like a knoppix that has a hdinstall with it? [03:32] Then people come down and we install linux;) [03:32] and sorry monoxide but i dont have sata :( [03:32] it's a fairly straightforward idea;) [03:32] which university :| [03:32] duke? [03:32] University of Alberta [03:32] what :/ [03:32] Up in Canada eh?;) [03:32] Duke > * [03:32] :| === looksaus [~looksaus@83-134-125-197.Leuven.GoPlus.FastDSL.tiscali.be] has joined #ubuntu [03:33] billytwobilly: is that in Edmonton or in Calgary? [03:33] bitfoo, don't start a university flame war now... [03:33] billytwowilly, the guys who do the Quasar Accounting program are in Alberta [03:33] or neither? === dud [~moo@80.202.216.64] has joined #ubuntu [03:33] In Edmonton. [03:34] heh, to quote fark.com "duke sucks";) [03:34] billytwobilly: Go Oilers I guess? [03:34] heh, when they're playing;) [03:34] I think I might come down for that installfest. === froust is scared of fglrx drivers. === billytwowilly is scared of ati.. === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu === billytwowilly runs an ati card and it makes him cry [03:35] me too [03:35] stupid centrino and not having any good nvidia card based solutions for less than 3 grand.. [03:36] billytwobilly: talk to me, the build in ate card is the only thing i hate about about my laptop === daniels looks at /topic. [03:36] theine, mobility radeon 9700 w/128 MB? [03:36] duke it out in #ati or #nvidia if you care, but it's offtopic here [03:37] billytwobilly: 9000 M9 === EvolutionR [~Username@218.208.201.95] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [03:37] umm.. what's the bash for taking ss? [03:37] that has opensource drivers doesn't it? [03:37] theine ^ === darmou [~darmou@dsl-220-235-89-67.vic.westnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu === gotcha [~gotcha@47-230-90.dial.terra.cl] has joined #ubuntu [03:37] daniels: i'm desperately sorry ... [03:37] daniels, Talking about problems with ati cards under ubuntu is off topic? [03:38] does anyone know how to get ubuntu to autmount cds? [03:38] Does the new livecd have a hdinstall? [03:38] toothpick: no [03:38] ok thanks. [03:38] billytwowilly: i've seen about a hojillion ati sux no nvidia am teh suck screw you flamewars in here, and honestly don't care for them [03:38] darmou, "Removable Media" capplet === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [03:39] daniels: well, speak for yourself i would say [03:39] thanks tritium [03:39] as it does suck for sure [03:39] darmou, sure, did you find it? [03:39] urm where is it? [03:39] daniels, that argument matters on windows systems only [03:39] not linux [03:39] darmou, under preferences [03:40] the number of games available on linux makes your choice of video card pretty inconsequential :/ [03:40] I think on Warty it's Computer->Preferences [03:40] can't remember [03:40] The "hald" service is required but not currently running. [03:40] theine, Doesn't anything below 9200 have opensource drivers sponsored by the weather channel? [03:40] bitfoo: not if you do other graphics-intensive stuff -- like video editing or 3d modeling/rendering [03:40] maybe I should install Warty using qemu on my Hoary machine === darmou_ [~darmou@dsl-220-235-89-67.vic.westnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [03:40] true, i hadnt thought about that [03:41] night all [03:41] but then again you shouldnt buy a gaming card for those types of projects [03:41] I do [03:41] you should buy a firegl or somehting :| === Local_man [~chatzilla@dialup-4.159.125.141.Dial1.Chicago1.Level3.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:41] no [03:41] ati support on linux is nothing I would touch [03:41] billytwobilly: yes! but they aren't that great i tell you [03:41] works good for me :/ [03:41] I am building my new workstation with two nvidia geforce 6 6800 Ultras === chrismurf [~chris@209.94.128.67] has joined #ubuntu === Scooter [~jocco@hnllhi1-ar6-4-7-245-121.hnllhi1.dsl-verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:41] basically, some of the best cards on the market [03:41] why :O [03:42] because I handle some heavy 3d modeling/rendering [03:42] billytwobilly: in term sof performnce i should add === sn0wman [~dan@pix012-105.pix.wmich.edu] has joined #ubuntu [03:42] i think you would be better off with a different card than SLI from nvidia [03:42] it's not SLI [03:42] but thats just me :| [03:42] SLI only allows one monitor output [03:42] I need 4 [03:42] so -- I'm not using them for SLI [03:42] theine, with the ati drivers I only get maybe 1500 FPS with glxgears.. [03:43] guys, #ubuntu-graphicsflamewars, please [03:43] ahh i see [03:43] daniels: please educate yourself -- we were not arguing anything [03:43] I was telling bitfoo the reasoning -- that's all -- take a pill [03:43] godsmoke: #ubuntu-graphicsdiscussions, then [03:43] it's not on topic heree [03:43] people, daniels brings us the X.org packages. some respect and thanks might be nice [03:43] :| === b_e_n_z [~Mercedes@vp201124.kln.uac68.hknet.com] has joined #ubuntu [03:43] godsmoke: i've seen a lot of these discussions, and they descend into useless flamewars. that's the entire reason why the notice in /topic is there. [03:44] thanks [03:44] what he does has nothing to do with the respect he deserves in an unrelated discussion === jcompton [~jcompton@c24.241.233.65.jvl.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [03:44] what advantages does the Debian kernel bring? [03:44] billytwobilly: glxgears is very unreliable i think, what matters to me is that i can't run doom 3 [03:44] godsmoke, respect is the code of conduct for this channel, regardless [03:45] tritium: I plan to [03:45] whats your gfx card [03:45] doom3 has pretty high reqs === zippy [~asdffwffw@70-32-241-191.ontrca.adelphia.net] has left #ubuntu [] [03:46] bitfoo: i know, but i think it generally blows under linux with an ATI card [03:46] is ubuntu going to provide Hoary as freeCD's? [03:46] of course it does [03:46] linux is an afterthought for these developers [03:47] slashdot story about the LiveCDs is out. I wonder how the servers are handling the load [03:47] windows is the main market, and thats the plain and simple truth :| [03:47] can someone help me with my harddrive problems?? [03:47] the shipit program for sending out free CDs will continue for Hoary [03:47] monoxide, I would, if I had an ounce of SATA experience, but I don't === elmaya [~elmaya@dsl-200-78-65-209.prod-infinitum.com.mx] has joined #ubuntu [03:47] anyone else not getting mozplugger to work in firefox ?...i get the window to load but then it just stops ..works fine in mozilla itself though ..i've tried making symlink from /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins to both /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox and ~/firefox1.0/plugins and even ~/.mozilla/plugins ,,,-- but nadda...anyone know fix for this ? ;-))) [03:48] yeah it says on the page after feb all cds will be hoary :O [03:48] bitfoo: well, i think ATI should in principle be able to provide drivers as goos as those from NVidia [03:48] first it detected the drive as /dev/sda, then as /dev/hde, now i cant find it at all [03:48] tritium what was the name of that applet again? [03:49] "Removable Media" [03:49] is it a new drive? [03:49] bitfoo: but of course in ``the real world''... [03:49] darmou, Removable Storage, rather === gotcha [~gotcha@47-230-90.dial.terra.cl] has left #ubuntu ["Abandonando"] [03:49] thanks [03:49] bitfoo: bla bla bla... [03:49] yes Local_man [03:49] It appears not to be my hoary preferences:( [03:50] is "apt-get distro-upgrade" a bad idea? [03:50] lol [03:50] yes :| [03:50] in my experience [03:50] budfox, you should probably use apt-get upgrade so as not to remove packages unknowingly === EvolutionR [~Username@218.208.201.95] has joined #ubuntu [03:50] darmou, you don't have it under Desktop->Preferences? [03:50] budfox: it depends you can run it and look at what apt is going to do before you do it.. [03:51] that sounds like a good idea [03:51] but if you have new versions of packages that require other new packages they won't be installed... [03:51] that is a situation when you would want to do it [03:51] does warty install with a default firewall? [03:51] distro-upgrade is not an apt operation [03:51] nope there is Removable Storage but I think that is different [03:51] usually doing a apt-get upgrade then doing an apt-get dist-upgrade to see what else it wants to do is how I go [03:51] libxi-dev depends on libx11-dev; however: [03:51] Package libx11-dev is not configured yet. [03:51] How to configure? [03:51] dist-upgrade is [03:51] randabis: dist-upgrade [03:51] I know... :p [03:51] EvolutionR: apt-get -f install [03:52] Has anyone tried to use a knoppix or morphix install script from the ubuntu live cd? [03:52] cowbud, me too [03:52] thanks...those are good tips [03:53] will restart the computer [03:53] cowbud, I use the "-u" switch too === whaq_ [~whaq@203.130.197.106] has joined #ubuntu === ushooz [~ushooz@adsl-68-94-198-51.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu === _vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [03:54] cowbud: is there easy way to install this xlibs-dev_4-1.3.0.dfsg.1-10_all.deb [03:54] there is so manay dependecies need to install? [03:55] my hardrive is detected as /dev/hde, at least on the live cd, but it still wont mount it from fstab [03:55] EvolutionR, why didn't you use apt-get ? [03:56] tritium: how to use? by apt-get install xlibs-dev_4-1.3.0.dfsg.1-10_all.deb ? [03:56] EvolutionR, "sudo apt-get install xlibs-dev" [03:56] it mounts properly on the live cd as well [03:56] monoxide, did you look at the output of "dmesg" to see what the device is? [03:57] E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution). === looksaus [~looksaus@83-134-125-197.Leuven.GoPlus.FastDSL.tiscali.be] has joined #ubuntu [03:57] do what it says? [03:57] /dev/hde1 [03:57] apt-get -f install only? [03:57] that's what it said to do... [03:58] ok [03:58] monoxide, is that how it's listed in fstab? === hams [~harms@216.145.255.2] has joined #ubuntu [03:58] umm, is there a friendly application, or guide/howto on adding a second harddrive to fstab? === EvolutionR [~Username@218.208.201.95] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [03:58] it says that /dev/hde is a 200GB hdd, which is correct === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [03:59] so that its accessible and read/writeable by users? [03:59] yes [03:59] huh [03:59] i can copy the fstab to here if you want [03:59] monoxide, no, don't paste the whole thing === dtrandd [~jhurst@70-32-241-191.ontrca.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:01] just the /dev/hde ones then? === bradb [~bradb@p188.h-yulrz01.stsn.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:02] alrighty [04:02] monoxide, if ubuntu is the only OS on the drive, it should be /dev/hde1 === Ogoz [~zjzjz@168-226-88-225.speedy.com.ar] has joined #ubuntu [04:02] time to wipe this drive and reinstall :| [04:02] hello [04:02] /dev/hde1 /var ext2 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1 === rellik [~rellik@r12ptsm8f.desktop.umr.edu] has joined #ubuntu [04:03] monoxide, nope, not the one. Where is "/" ? [04:03] i have 3 hdd === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [04:03] monoxide, grep it. === srid [~sridhar@61.247.244.50] has joined #ubuntu [04:03] just grep it [04:03] /dev/hda1 / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1 [04:04] thats what we wanted [04:04] that one works though === daimeng [~daimeng@h000c41f7c21b.ne.client2.attbi.com] has joined #ubuntu === eyequeue [~eyequeue@67-139-76-220.dsl1-merch.roc.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:04] okay, so you can't mount /dev/hde1? [04:04] its just the hde partitions that wont mount [04:04] or hde2,3,4 === EvolutionR [~Username@218.208.201.95] has joined #ubuntu [04:05] but when i first put the drive in it found it as /dev/sda === mebaran151 [~mebaran@c-24-126-7-72.we.client2.attbi.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:05] how do I remove RAID, LVM, Enterprise volume management services from startup? [04:05] Hey [04:05] anybody here know about the problems of Evolution in AMD64 [04:05] I keep getting a floating point error [04:05] monoxide, I think you should search the forums and wiki for sata [04:05] No package 'gmodule-2.0' found , apt-get install gmodule [04:05] Reading Package Lists... Done [04:05] Building Dependency Tree... Done [04:05] E: Couldn't find package gmodule [04:06] but that seems to have changed for some reason on the live cd [04:06] ok tritium, il have a look [04:06] and also [04:06] why are all my menu items doubled === newcomer [~newcomer@82.201.174.109] has joined #ubuntu [04:06] it is not a big deal [04:06] but everything is listed twice [04:06] should I reinstall gnome panel or soemthing [04:06] EvolutionR, what are you trying to install? [04:06] one meoment [04:06] EvolutionR: apt-cache search is your friend... [04:06] has anyone here gotten mplayer to work? after installing it and trying to run, it exited with "Illegal Instruction"... so I got rid of /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf and now it crashes with Illegal Instruction "play_audio" [04:07] i know it's trivial, but does the new milestone live cd have the proposed/new bootsplash? === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [04:07] newcomer, no [04:07] I'm trying to install xfmedia-0.4.0.1 [04:07] rellik: what did you follow to get mplayer installed? [04:07] what program does ubuntu use to browse digital cameras? [04:08] tritium, is there any progress in the bootsplash thing? [04:08] last time it just launched itself [04:08] newcomer, I don't know, really. ask sladen [04:08] tritium> I'm trying to install xfmedia-0.4.0.1 [04:08] cowbud, I just 'apt-get'ed it [04:08] EvolutionR, from which repository? I don't find that [04:08] rellik: I didn't think they had it in the universe... === aethyr [~aethyr@dyn006612-twr2-student.cpmc.columbia.edu] has joined #ubuntu [04:09] tritium> is on the cdrom [04:09] cowbud, well it may have come already installed actually... either that or I just did apt-get [04:09] EvolutionR, which one? [04:09] cowbud, I didn't do anything special to get it [04:09] why doesnt this work? [04:09] /dev/hdb1 /storage/unus ext3 auto,rw,gid=1111,umask=707 0 0 [04:10] tritium: it is on this month Linux Format CD [04:10] u have or not? [04:10] what is the address for the forums? [04:10] CD 2 [04:10] EvolutionR, from source? [04:10] yeah of course tar.balls === vitaminmoo [~vitaminmo@2001:5c0:8fff:ffff:8000:0:cea3:5ec3] has joined #ubuntu [04:11] of course? not all software has to be installed from source [04:11] so how to satisfy the thing? it need the gmodule? === froust [~liam@S0106000f6694d7bf.ed.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:11] EvolutionR, get the source, of course === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [04:11] gmodule is not available in ubuntu [04:12] tritium: http://www.pastebin.com/234423 look at this === HillTop [~chatzilla@dt060n09.san.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:13] EvolutionR: you have to install gmodule frmo source.. [04:13] EvolutionR, I think you need libglib1.2-dev [04:13] ahh [04:13] tritium: interesting [04:14] otherwise I don't know what gmodule could be [04:14] indeed [04:14] you are correct [04:14] ??? [04:14] EvolutionR: apt-get install libglib1.2-dev [04:14] then you will be good to go thanks to tritium [04:14] cowbud: okie [04:14] thanks, cowbud === mebaran151 [~mebaran@c-24-126-7-72.we.client2.attbi.com] has joined #ubuntu === orospakr [~orospakr@CPE0004762b7051-CM001225701f0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:14] anyone having problems with Evolution [04:14] EvolutionR, hold on [04:14] cowbud how u know the I need the libglibl.2-dev???? which line [04:14] it is reporting for me a floating point error [04:14] get libglib2.0-dev [04:15] ok [04:15] tritium: which line shows that I need that? [04:15] how do I remove RAID, LVM, Enterprise volume management services from startup? [04:15] EvolutionR, this is the only thing I find about gmodule: http://developer.gnome.org/doc/API/2.0/glib/glib-Dynamic-Loading-of-Modules.html [04:15] EvolutionR: the gmodule :) [04:15] yah my bad you wantt he 2.0 one.. === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [04:16] oki [04:16] so this get libglib2.0-dev? [04:16] EvolutionR, that's the only think I can think of, yes [04:16] apt-get install libglib2.0-dev [04:16] yes [04:16] dpkg -L libglib2.0-dev | grep gmodu [04:16] /usr/lib/pkgconfig/gmodule-2.0.pc [04:16] there is more but [04:16] you get the idea [04:16] cowbud, did you already have that installed? === b_e_n_z [~Mercedes@vp201124.kln.uac68.hknet.com] has left #ubuntu ["Spammers] [04:17] or did you just install it? [04:17] tritium: why ubuntu development apps not fully installed? unlike other distro [04:17] EvolutionR, not everybody needs those libraries [04:17] oic [04:17] :) [04:17] EvolutionR, even in other distributions (e.g. debian), those libraries are not installed [04:17] EvolutionR: having a hojillion things installed by default, or one cd -- your choice [04:18] what are you compiling again? [04:18] cowbud : who are u talking to? [04:18] EvolutionR: you :) [04:19] compiling of wat [04:19] the gmodule? === santiago [~santiago@63.245.86.97] has joined #ubuntu [04:19] no I just want to install this xfmedia thnig [04:19] EvolutionR: you need the glib devel for something you are going to run make for (i.e. compiling) [04:19] EvolutionR: you are installing it from source right? [04:19] yeah [04:19] yah that involves compiling === Ex-Cyber [~excyber@cpe-024-211-182-083.nc.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:19] Ohh I guess my Ubuntu lacks this Compiling thing === Aughost [Aughost@200.104.27.44] has joined #ubuntu === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [04:20] EvolutionR, ? === NetwrkMonkey [~Monkey@netwrkmonkey.user] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === mebaran151 [~mebaran@c-24-126-7-72.we.client2.attbi.com] has left #ubuntu [] [04:20] you will need to install gcc and all kinds of other devel tools.. === chris_ [~chris@chello212186066043.6.14.vie.surfer.at] has joined #ubuntu [04:21] Hi [04:21] chris_: yes, build-essential [04:21] EvolutionR, "sudo apt-get install build-essential" to avoid lots of agony [04:21] what is the module for a BCM94306 wireless network card ? [04:21] which ships on the CD === cowbud nods to hdwrbob and tritium [04:21] tritium: thanks alot for that!!!!!!!!!!1 :P [04:21] install buil essential... [04:21] sure [04:21] tritum, we need a "build-everything" === dan_ [~dan@pix012-105.pix.wmich.edu] has joined #ubuntu [04:22] anyone got captive-ntfs working with hoary? [04:22] hams: that would be huge [04:22] and disk space is at a premium now days? [04:22] hams, say goodbye to one install CD [04:22] if you have a "build-everything" === regeya [~shane@sdn-ap-013ilchicP0376.dialsprint.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:23] tritium: do they have build-essential on one cd? [04:23] tritum, i don't need it on the install CD, just as a download package [04:23] on the one cd.... [04:23] cowbud, I thought HrdwrBoB said it was on it === ficusplanet [~brad@146.140.232.64.transedge.com] has joined #ubuntu === cowbud shrugs === EvolutionR [~Username@218.208.201.95] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [04:23] I don't recall [04:24] Hi [04:24] jdub, You here? [04:24] yeah [04:24] Could anyone help me? === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [04:24] Aughost: ask and people will try toi [04:24] jdub, Is usplash going into hoary or hoary+1? [04:24] ficusplanet: unclear atm. [04:24] jdub, Alright, thanks. [04:25] does anyone knows how to make works a BCM94306 wireless network interface in ubuntu? [04:25] ok, well... whenever I try installing ubuntu, I get a cd-drive error, asks for drivers [04:25] where should I get those? [04:26] I owe my wife some time tonight. I'll see you guys tomorrow. [04:26] I don't suppose you have a more specific error message, do you, Aughost? :-/ [04:26] dumb question I fear but here goes.when I go to install a package in synaptic and it says:; 5:6.0.2.5....what the heck is the first '5' mean ??? [04:26] regeya: jesus you are a mind reader :) [04:26] I installed ubuntu in a dell inspiron 700m but the wireless doesn't works === tritium [~tritium@12-202-90-180.client.insightBB.com] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [04:27] well... also get prompted about PCMCIA, says something about dell laptops [04:27] anyone have any idea what might cause mplayer to not work? I get the error "MPlayer interrupted by signal 4 in module: play_audio" for every file [04:27] I've got a dell desktop [04:27] could that be part of the problem? [04:27] heh cowbud === EvolutionR [~Username@218.208.201.95] has joined #ubuntu [04:27] /////////////// [04:27] yipe sorry [04:27] tritium: apt-get install buil-essential still not satisfy the gmodule thing! === regeya suddenly doesn't feel so good...seriously...sorry Aughost, don't know, regeya feels seriously ill at the moment, will be away a while === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [04:28] Thats ok [04:29] apt-get install build-essential === DogBoy [~john@cs68203144-121.houston.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:29] Reading Package Lists... Done [04:29] Building Dependency Tree... Done [04:29] The following extra packages will be installed: [04:29] g++ [04:29] The following NEW packages will be installed: [04:29] build-essential g++ === EvolutionR [~Username@218.208.201.95] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === EvolutionR [~Username@218.208.201.95] has joined #ubuntu [04:29] Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y [04:30] Ubuntu is beating out Fedora in hits per day this month on distrowatch [04:30] No package 'gmodule-2.0' found [04:30] configure: error: Library requirements (gmodule-2.0 >= 2.0.6) not met; consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them. === drspin [~cole@ip68-2-119-141.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #Ubuntu [04:31] configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check < anyone know whats causing this compile error ? ;-) ..thx ;-)) === neofeed [~moritz@pD9575F70.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu === scoon [~scoon@dsl092-234-243.phl1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:33] apt-get install glib-dev [04:33] Reading Package Lists... Done [04:33] Building Dependency Tree... Done [04:33] E: Couldn't find package glib-dev [04:35] i cant find anything on the wiki [04:35] i removed the references to /dev/hde in fstab so that it would boot, and now in the normal boot up, it says that the harddrive is /dev/sda [04:36] only getting Hoary Live CD at 84 Kbps... [04:36] how slow [04:36] :( [04:36] oh ye poor dear [04:36] neighborlee: is there a log file in the build directory? (config.log or configure.log, can't remember which is normal) === bitfoo [~bitfoo@rdu26-78-203.nc.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:37] it beets 5kbs [04:37] EvolutionR: apt-get install glib-devel [04:37] maybe? [04:37] yo :| === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [04:37] trust me 84 Kbps beats 5 [04:37] monoxide: but blows next to my usual 800k down for things of this nature... [04:37] i recommend anyone wanting to use hoary install it clean, not upgrade :| [04:37] it works way better :| [04:37] 84 beats what I'm getting now [04:37] bahh 800k is for wimps ;) [04:37] Ex-Cyber, yes but I have no idea to ascertain the error from it...its HUGE..i've looked through it but find nothing relevant to help me [04:37] apt-get install glib-devel [04:37] Reading Package Lists... Done [04:37] Building Dependency Tree... Done [04:37] E: Couldn't find package glib-devel [04:37] Ex-Cyber, wth is 'failed sanity check ' anyway ? ;0)) [04:38] robertj: LOL -- keeps me happy [04:38] My speed record is 6 megs/s ;) [04:38] clean as in, erm, fresh install? I'm not sure I like the sound of that... [04:38] EvolutionR: apt-cache search glib [04:38] actually I can get a good bit faster from a neighboring uni [04:38] how do I uninstall,reinstall something that came with ubuntu? (mplayer-custom) [04:38] neighborlee: generally that means that it was tested with some basic input and bailed out for some reason [04:38] robertj: from? [04:38] libdb1-compat - The Berkeley database routines [glibc 2.0/2.1 compatibility] [04:38] dbus-1 - simple interprocess messaging system [04:38] dbus-glib-1 - simple interprocess messaging system (GLib-based shared library) [04:38] libglib2.0-0 - The GLib library of C routines [04:38] libglib2.0-data - Common files for GLib library [04:38] linux-kernel-headers - Linux Kernel Headers for development [04:38] libgnomecups1.0-1 - GNOME library for CUPS interaction [04:38] libsoup2.2-7 - an HTTP library implementation in C -- Shared library [04:38] glibc-doc - GNU C Library: Documentation [04:38] libc6 - GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone data === Phineas [~darkhorse@c-24-30-93-207.mw.client2.attbi.com] has joined #ubuntu === EvolutionR [~Username@218.208.201.95] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [04:38] EvolutionR: use #flood [04:39] Ex-Cyber, ah ok === EvolutionR [~Username@218.208.201.95] has joined #ubuntu [04:39] EvolutionR: paste it in #flood [04:39] dr: Ga Tech [04:39] ok === toothpick [~Neils@pcp01993813pcs.plsntv01.nj.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [04:39] bitfoo: I didn't have much problem except for some junk with fglrx === Dethread [~Dethread@24-205-231-52.slo-cres.charterpipeline.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:39] drspin: I work at the University of Georgia and we have some pretty good connections [04:39] i did [04:39] :| [04:39] I'd imagine a clean install is a bit more polished though [04:39] drspin the problem is the dependency on gmodule 2.0 === santiago [~santiago@63.245.86.97] has left #ubuntu ["Siente] [04:39] In the next few months we are supposed to be kicking up our I2 connection [04:40] bitfoo: when did you try it, and what went wrong? [04:40] drspin: the problem is the dependency on gmodule 2.0 === Ex-Cyber will probably try a dist-upgrade again before too long [04:40] i apt-get dist-upgraded [04:40] then apt-get upgraded [04:40] robertj: when I was leeching bandwidth from the University I was getting prety damn fast speeds [04:40] things were screwy :/ [04:40] Anyone know how I can speed up file transfers in GAIM? [04:40] EvolutionR: what are you trying to do? [04:40] drspin: I'm curious to see what this "Southern Light Rail" is capable of [04:40] like sound only worked in xmms after some fiddling, wirless networks that were unencrypted appeared encrypted and vice versa [04:40] froust: #gaim or #wingaim [04:40] was just strange [04:40] and if I can get on it [04:40] ahh. *duh* [04:41] robertj: heh I think it may be a while ;) === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [04:41] hey if i "apt-get install linux-686" do i have to do anything else to make sure everything works perfectly with it? [04:41] drspin: trying to install the source files from Xfmedia...tar [04:41] are there other packages that are 386 and 686 based? === drspin will clean install every time a new Ubuntu is released [04:42] the next ubuntu release would be 5.4, wouldn't it? [04:42] EvolutionR: what does it depend on? [04:42] i'd like to be able to choose the filesystem if possible :| [04:42] and maybe some other stuff :/ [04:42] drspin: maybe not, especially since I can shell into the webserver [04:42] I bet tunneling though could easily limit throughput and thrash the cpu though ;) [04:43] Ex-Cyber: 5.04 :) === DogBoy [~john@cs68203144-121.houston.rr.com] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [04:43] hey does the warty guide to multimedia on ubuntuforums work for hoary too :| [04:43] like are those the same packages :/ [04:43] robertj:I agree [04:43] is there a way i can run a command on bootup? [04:43] robertj: but I'd try it once or twice :) [04:43] at 3 am :) [04:43] monoxide: what command? [04:44] jdub: ah, right :) [04:44] The only thing I can tell from reading the papers on it is that everything begins with the word Giga [04:44] a mount command. fstab doesnt seem to be working properly for my sata drive === brc_ [~brian@brc.base.supporter.pdpc] has joined #ubuntu [04:44] robertj: such a great work -- once step closer to Tera :) [04:44] *one [04:45] monoxide, are your sata driver compiled into the kernel or loaded as a module? [04:45] drspin: I don't know what good that would do me [04:45] drspin go to flood [04:45] channel [04:45] no idea. [04:45] our throughput is pretty kickin on campus [04:45] I've pasted on the flood channel [04:45] whatever they are installed as by default === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [04:45] our throughput used to be way kickin [04:46] than operation bucanner crushed us :| [04:46] i havnt recompiled the kernel though [04:46] EvolutionR: I'm still waiting for it to finish coming in... [04:46] buccaneer* === srid [~sridhar@61.247.244.50] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === chibif1 [~chibifs@bgp01048662bgs.southg01.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:47] Our on-campus connection is enough to saturate an 8 disk RAID 0 box [04:47] hams? [04:47] I don't know where the limit is, but it aint on the network [04:47] monoxide, i found that if sata_nv wasn't in the kernel for me the drive didn't mount properly [04:47] drpsin: finnish pasting === regeya [~shane@sdn-ap-013ilchicP0376.dialsprint.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:47] how would i put that in the kernel? === regeya feels like a dope now === Aughost [Aughost@200.104.27.44] has joined #ubuntu [04:48] you need the kernel source [04:48] robertj, are you updating from ubuntu site? [04:48] EvolutionR: you need the package that contain gmodule 2.0 [04:48] bitfoo: hehe, no [04:48] because that is slow because it was just slashdotted :| === lavigj [~largo@pcp03303349pcs.ypwest01.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu === miqer [~griap@user-12lcfef.cable.mindspring.com] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [04:49] hooray slashdotted [04:49] hi [04:49] drspin: but how to get it? [04:49] EvolutionR: I don't know what it is... [04:49] EvolutionR: I'm looking now [04:49] hams: how do i get the kernel source? [04:49] okie === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [04:50] how much diskspace is needed to run a proper mirror? [04:50] monoxide, first look in /etc/modules is your sata driver there? [04:50] I wrote the error message i got, when installing ubuntu === refugee [refugee@65.193.17.245] has joined #ubuntu [04:50] EvolutionR: locate gmodule-2.0.pc [04:50] hello. [04:50] see if it finds it [04:50] ok [04:50] Detect and mount cd-rom [04:51] could someone help me with that one? [04:51] locate gmodule-2.0.pc [04:51] warning: locate: could not open database: /var/lib/slocate/slocate.db: No such file or directory [04:51] I am having a problem with having a menu. Using Hoary + KDE here [04:51] that folder isnt there... [04:51] EvolutionR: LOL - that won't work ;) [04:51] modules is a file [04:51] vi /etc/modules [04:51] LOL newbie! [04:51] EvolutionR, that is the error the first time you run updatedb, Also you need to do it sudo updatedb [04:51] :P [04:52] refugee: anybody know of problems with the menu? [04:52] never-mind [04:52] could anyone help me please? [04:52] what's problem with menu is the taskbar start menu disappear? [04:52] installing gnome-menus seems to have fixed the problem === monoxide`linux [~monoxide@dialup-102.29.221.203.acc11-dryb-mel.comindico.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [04:53] drspin : how to locate? [04:53] hams, doesnt seem to be there [04:53] EvolutionR: I'm working on it... hang on -- is this a clean install? === looksaus [~looksaus@83-134-125-197.Leuven.GoPlus.FastDSL.tiscali.be] has joined #ubuntu [04:53] psmouse mousedev ide-cd ide-disk ide-generic lp apm nvidia [04:54] drspin: yeah....the ubuntu lacks alot of things man! :( [04:54] that doesn't seem right... === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [04:54] i didnt install ubuntu with the sata drive in [04:54] also its slocate === refugee [refugee@65.193.17.245] has left #ubuntu [] [04:54] hmm... ok maybe what i said wasn't the issue. [04:54] EvolutionR: what are you trying to install again? [04:55] the [04:55] Xfmedia .......... [04:55] if you do a mount , you can mount the device correctly? [04:55] yes [04:55] a simple ,powerful media player [04:55] o_O [04:55] is it xfce based :| [04:55] 0_o [04:55] :P [04:55] but for some reason when i boot off my hdd, and when i boot of the live cd it gives it 2 different /dev's [04:55] o_0 [04:56] ((( d[-_-] b ))) [04:56] and i think the livecd one is the right one [04:56] what two? [04:56] LOL [04:56] hdd: /dev/sda, livecd: /dev/hde [04:56] when I try installing I get a "No common CD-Rom Drive was detected", why? [04:56] EvolutionR: There's a Debian Package right on the front page of the website [04:56] EvolutionR: http://spuriousinterrupt.org/projects/xfmedia/index.php [04:57] thanks man [04:57] EvolutionR: dpkg -i filenamehere.deb [04:57] I was trying to install the source from the Linux Fomrat CD 2 [04:57] your sure /dev/hde wasn't your CD/DVD drive? [04:57] nope [04:57] thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 [04:57] what's in your fstab now? [04:57] /dev/hda, /dev/hdb are hdd's, /dev/hdc, dev/hdd, are cd drives === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [04:58] did you put /dev/sdaX in there for the sata drive? [04:58] monoxide`linux: did you add sdaX in your fstab? [04:59] drspin: I saw on that page binary: xfmedia.deb...but it bring to the other website? how to get the bin for it? [04:59] EvolutionR: check the websites to make sure that you're using up-to-date versions... you never know when you'll run across a better solution [05:00] how do you bringup the menu bar in a terminal that has none? [05:00] I am going to compile that XFMedia never heard of it but it looks cool [05:00] drspin, i tried both sdax and hdex, neither worked [05:00] drspin: I know mine is old one, how to I get the new one? [05:00] ushooz: yeah try it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [05:01] hmm [05:01] every so often my screen blanks, anyone know what might be causing that apart from the cable being loose? [05:01] monoxide`linux: the mount point is created on your root partition? [05:01] good evening everyone [05:01] yes [05:01] if i uncommented those lines and changed them to sda and did a mount -a it would work [05:01] ushooz: how to get the XFmedia binary package for debian??????????? [05:02] can you paste just the /dev/sda line for us? [05:02] #/dev/hde1 /var ext2 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1 [05:02] #/dev/hde2 /usr ext2 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1 [05:02] #/dev/hde3 /opt ext2 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1 [05:02] #/dev/hde4 /pub ext2 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1 === K-Rich [~krich@70-97-106-187.bras01.sho.az.frontiernet.net] has joined #ubuntu === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [05:03] it is hde there because i changed it in the livecd to what the livecd said that the drive was [05:03] greets [05:03] ushooz: u there === linux-rulz [~linux-rul@S0106000c6ec62859.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:03] EvolutionR, yeah, working on compiling it and chating in GAIM [05:04] Also got the following error message:"Linux kernel modules needed to drive some of your hardware are not available yet. Simple proceeding may take this modules available later. The unavailable modules, and the devices that need them are: tg3 (Broadcom Corporation netXtreme PCM5754 Gigabit ethernet), ide-mod(Linux IDE Driver), ide-probe-mod (linux IDE probe driver), ide-detect (Linux IDE detection), ide-floppy (Linux IDE floppy) [05:04] but when you boot from disk it shows up as sda? [05:04] yea [05:04] EvolutionR: http://www.os-works.com/view/debian/ [05:04] but changing it to sda doesnt help === bur[n] er [~norml@c-67-173-243-73.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:04] EvolutionR: tell you how to add their repos [05:04] hey, just wondering, is kaffeine available in universe or multiverse? [05:04] ushooz: ur compiling it...tell me if the things work ok? === fierynerves [~Steve@adsl-69-211-223-248.dsl.wotnoh.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu === technodude [~chatzilla@ip68-14-29-72.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:05] drspin: how? [05:05] what has changed in the latest version of the Ubuntu Live Cd? [05:05] could someone help me? [05:05] How come the release ntoes aren't posted on the Ubuntu website [05:05] its a brand new version technodude [05:06] its 5.04 vs 4.10 [05:06] :| [05:06] What has been updated besides the version 3? [05:06] *version # [05:06] it uses x.org instead of xfree86 :| [05:06] Has Gnome been updated? [05:06] some new stuff to gnome it looks like :| [05:06] and a lot of other things [05:06] yes [05:06] gnome is 2.9.4 presently [05:06] technodude: yes, and hoary will eventually ship with 2.10 === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [05:07] I just d/l an iso this morning not knowing about the 5.04 release [05:07] How much longer until Gnome 2.10 is released? [05:07] hoary comes out in april [05:07] what's the best way to try the latest ubuntu? [05:07] when they finish it [05:07] hams? [05:07] 4.10 apt-get upgrades? [05:07] lol, i know that, i mean, when is it scheduled to be released [05:07] does the live cd include all the packages of the standalone version? [05:07] Dreamer: with caution [05:07] i dunno... sounds like you did the right thing... [05:08] i'm downloading the hoary iso right now myself... wanna see what to expect :) [05:08] regeya: so, stay with 4.10? [05:08] it says something along the lines that /dev/sda1 is not a valid block device === drspin is installing XFCE4 -- I use it on my laptop afterall why not here too :) [05:08] but after boot it works fine? [05:09] yep [05:09] Dreamer3: not necessarily, a lot of people run it just fine. It is just a developer's release, if you want guaranteed stability, use 4.10 [05:09] does the live cd include all packages from the distro or just some? [05:09] linux-rulz: i want a faster distro than debian sarge :) [05:09] technodude: afaik it includes all of the packages that are installed by default [05:09] usually live cds don't include all the packages === bradb [~bradb@p188.h-yulrz01.stsn.com] has joined #ubuntu === sirukin [~sirukin@Toronto-ppp219475.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu [05:10] Dreamer3: what do u mean a faster distro? faster development? [05:10] but I wouldn't say "all available" because that would fill many cd's === EvolutionR [~Username@218.208.201.95] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [05:10] technodude: it doesn't, however, double as an install. some people are confused by that [05:10] ok. Is there a place to d/l more official Ubuntu packages, because the aren't very many that come with the distro [05:10] apt-get === Dethread [~Dethread@24-205-231-52.slo-cres.charterpipeline.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:11] or synaptic if you'd like a gui [05:11] technodude: there's heaps of other supported packages (see synaptic) [05:11] I am used to Suse where lots of packages come on the dvd === dhewg_ [~dhewg@dsl-082-082-140-012.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:11] techodude: enable universe and multiverse and then use apt-get [05:11] monoxide`linux: i'm not sure where to go from there... [05:11] or you can compile stuff === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [05:11] technodude: and if you enable universe and multiverse, there are bucketloads of unsupported packages rebuilt for ubuntu [05:11] what about that module stuff? [05:11] technodude: I used Suse for about a year... too much of a pain in the 4$$ [05:11] do I have to use apt-get? I can't get my wireless network card to work under Linux so I have to d/l stuff from Windows XP [05:11] It is a shame [05:11] maybe the support is only there after its booted? [05:11] none of those modules are sata drivers [05:12] It's the only reason I leave windows on my computer [05:12] well what is the sata module? [05:12] technodude: what kind of wifi card? [05:12] technodude: have you tried ndiswrapper? [05:12] technodude: so run a hard line === dutch [~dutch@cpe-024-211-215-161.nc.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:12] linux-rulz: no, something that feels faster... the live CD of ubuntu felt pretty fast... but i'm not sure if that's just cause it didn't have all my usual stuff loaded [05:12] neat [05:12] is have nvidia, so it's called sata_nv === Genesee [~Genesee@69-200-227-4.nyc.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:12] Dreamer3: might have to do with kernel 2.6 vs 2.4 [05:12] It is a Linksys Wireless-B WUSB11 v. 2.8 [05:13] tracker down? [05:13] technodude: that will probably work with ndiswrapper [05:13] Dreamer3: try installing a 2.6 kernel in Debian [05:13] linux-rulz: nope, i run the latest 2.6 with con's interactive patches :) [05:13] Dreamer3: specs? === dhewg_ is now known as dhewg [05:13] dreamer3 use xfce or some other wm :| [05:13] linux-rulz: p3/900, 512mb, 18gig hd, ibm thinkpad t22 [05:13] WOW package download is SOOOO slow... [05:13] Ubuntu > most [05:14] drspin: World Of Warcraft? [05:14] (space) /. effect I imagine [05:14] yea, my next step is to try ndiswrapper. It will probably be hard since I am new to networking. [05:14] ok then, il try that [05:14] brb [05:14] :| [05:14] Somebody told me that Prism2 based cards work well [05:14] bitfoo: no as in wow! that's amazing... [05:14] technodude: there is a good guide, ill track it down and give u the link === predaeus [~predaeus@M232P025.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #ubuntu [05:14] what I'd like to see is a config oriented system like apt-get [05:14] technodude, they do. I am using one [05:14] bitfoo: gnome on the ubuntu boot CD felt faster... i wonder if it's the compile options they use [05:14] Only probablem is I wish there was a list somewhere of what cards had prism2 so I could find one for sale [05:15] technodude: pricewatch [05:15] What is the newest kernel version in the ubuntu tree for an amd64? === looksaus [~looksaus@83-134-125-197.Leuven.GoPlus.FastDSL.tiscali.be] has joined #ubuntu [05:15] i.e hardware detection and you can choose what others are using with the same hardware based on performance === phyberoptix [~fybrglas@nc-65-40-175-172.dyn.sprint-hsd.net] has joined #Ubuntu [05:15] maybe [05:15] I typed in prism2 and nothing came up on pricewatch === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [05:15] prism2 = chipset not manufccturer [05:15] :| === Dreamer3 yawns. [05:16] how do I find out which cards have a Prism2 based chipset [05:16] technodude, http://www.linux-wlan.org/docs/wlan_adapters.html.gz [05:16] if i have gnome terminal with no menu tab, is there a way to open the menu tab? === qcompson [~qcompson@resnet163-132.resnet.buffalo.edu] has joined #ubuntu [05:16] hams: right click, turn on the menu again [05:17] technodude: try this out http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/phpwiki/index.php/Installation [05:17] thanks === stuNNed [~stuNNed@adsl-068-209-149-165.sip.msy.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:17] that should help u out [05:18] right-click on the termina....thx jdub === froust is now known as ap4che === ap4che is now known as froust [05:18] technodude: I'm not sure if ndiswrapper is available in the ubuntu repos [05:19] hello [05:19] universe? [05:19] ndiswrapper-utils is in main === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [05:20] ok, i have the error here [05:20] We tried to get up the internet connection with an ADSL USB Modem. The Install script brought a mistake with usbcore. It's an amd64 system and the live CD for x86 runs on this machine and the same script. Any ideas where the problem is? [05:20] fsck.ext2: No such file or directory while trying to open /dev/sda4 [05:20] can you build a tar file on a Debian based distro? [05:20] predaeus: Is it a modem with a 3rd aprty driver? [05:21] yes [05:21] technodude: Of course. Just make SURE you use ./configure --prefix=/usr/local [05:21] technodude: yes, i do it all the time with things like mplayer and ffmpe [05:21] cafuego, t's a Alcatel USB Speedtouch [05:21] monoxide: and sda4 is correct? [05:21] *ffmpeg [05:21] predaeus: Probably a badly ported driver, then. [05:21] monoxide: do you have RAID enabled for the SATA contoller? [05:21] it is once it has booted... [05:21] k, thanks I'll try it [05:21] ahh then it is the long ass one before.. [05:21] predaeus: Can you swap it over for an ethernet one? [05:21] what? [05:22] cafuego, then it wouldn't run under the x86 live cd also i think. [05:22] monoxide: does your mobo support RAID for SATA devices? [05:22] cafuego, no should and must work with usb [05:22] i have no idea [05:22] predaeus: No, alcatel have provided a driver which doesn't work under 64bit kernels, it seems. [05:22] have you gone into the BIOS before? === Adrenal [~drew@168.9.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ubuntu === drspin [~cole@ip68-2-119-141.ph.ph.cox.net] has left #Ubuntu [] [05:22] yes [05:22] imho ubuntu needs alot of work in the autoconfig department before it can meet the "for the desktop end user" crowd === dan_ [~dan@pix012-105.pix.wmich.edu] has joined #ubuntu [05:23] sirukin: Like which parts? [05:23] can you gone into an look to see if RAID might be enabled on the SATA controller you're using... === ogra [~ogra@pD95F87D9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [05:24] when does the new gnome come out? === tux [~tux@159-134-228-172.as1.tre.dublin.eircom.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:24] where would i find that? it is detecting the sata drive in bios [05:24] the linmodem deal [05:24] proprietary closed source graphics drivers [05:24] anyone try out the hoary live cd release ? [05:25] sirukin: I needed to do exactly ZERO config for my nvidia card. [05:25] monoxide: not sure, should probably be on menu down, so check each top-level menu [05:25] sirukin: As for Linmodems, if they're not supported there's not much they can do. [05:25] on -> one [05:25] sirukin: maybe users need to be educated to refuse linmodem hardware. I do. [05:26] it should give you an option when you boot [05:26] heh [05:26] What option? [05:26] maybe [05:26] but the whole "shut it out" attitude is stupid. [05:26] firewire is still tricky in ubuntu as well [05:26] "This hardware is not supported by Linux. Go to this website and pay for a driver. [link] " [05:26] are the gnome menus are a ubuntu thing or the new gnome thing i.e. Applications Places Desktop [05:26] cafuego, is it possible to install ubuntu from the live CD? [05:26] predaeus: Not that I've noticed. [05:27] cowbud: new gnome [05:27] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/hoary/array-3.5-live/ [05:27] when does it come out anyway? [05:27] good [05:27] Adrenal: When it's ready? [05:27] is that the final release of hoary for live cd ? [05:27] Adrenal: which? [05:27] cafuego, ok thx [05:27] tux: no [05:27] Actually, 2 weeks before it's ready seems to be the norm these days. [05:27] whats array mean [05:27] Adrenal: www.gnome.org/start/2.9/ === sirukin returns to gdb and linuxant's driver for his hcf modem [05:27] ta [05:27] tux: you gotta work that out :) [05:28] Adrenal: hoary preview comes out on the same day [05:28] if gnome 2.10 isn't ready by hoary release time, will hoary wait? [05:28] Maybe Ubuntu should stick with Gnome 2.8 until things don't magically stop working after an evolution update. === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu === randori82 [~randori82@ip204.riverstone-optel.dfw.ygnition.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:28] what about the backports? [05:28] 1. To place or dispose in order, as troops for battle; to [05:28] marshal. [05:28] when can i expect that? [05:28] cafuego: we track the devel branch so these things are found and fixed [05:28] this place is packed! [05:28] the closest thing i can see there is "OnChip Serial ATA" which is enabled [05:28] cafuego: otherwise we'd never be able to release with the latest gnome [05:29] did you see RAID anywhere? === cafuego would much prefer a stable gnome, not latest. [05:29] cafuego: when ubuntu is released, gnome is stable === Adrenal would prefer the latest gnome, not a stable one [05:29] jdub: Does that mean Ubuntu won't ever be released? ;-) [05:29] isn't gnome in wart ystable? === Luke [~blindspy@tark-b-038.resnet.purdue.edu] has joined #ubuntu [05:29] cafuego: we release the preview on the day of gnome's release, then we stabilise an extra month and then do the final ubuntu release [05:30] cafuego: ubuntu is released every six months, on the day. same as gnome. [05:30] hams: nope [05:30] eyequeue: yes, it is. [05:30] jdub: Grrhm. === cafuego is getting irritated with needing to use Thunderbird [05:30] hmm... perhaps jdub will have an idea? [05:30] does anyone know how they put the fig in the fig roll? [05:30] jdub: maybe i misread cafuego [05:30] y do u need to use? [05:30] eyequeue: he's talking about hoary [05:30] oh, the whole crashy thing === davepet [~root@host-66-81-129-27.rev.o1.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:31] jdub: any ideas? [05:31] tux: Transporters [05:31] jdub: i figured development == unstable anyway :) [05:31] monoxide: re? [05:31] what does the array mean in the hoary release ? [05:32] jdub: my sata drive not mounting from /etc/fstab on bootup [05:32] tux: they don't put the fig in the fig roll, that's the way figs are grown === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [05:32] tux: you have to work that out :) [05:32] when you buy figs separately they're just derolled [05:32] monoxide: is the driver loaded? is the device there? etc. [05:33] i've been to ubuntuguide.org - it dont mention jack shit [05:33] the device is there, both in bios and once it has started up [05:33] jdub, he can do a mounta === stone__ [~stone@c-67-184-135-68.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:33] as for the driver, no idea, but i can mount it after it has finished booting [05:33] ... after he's booted === Ex-Cyber is now known as Ex-Cyber_ === DAC1138 [~dave@24-56-174-97.co.warpdriveonline.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:35] so, once again, i have the error logs from X.org regarding my xserver issues. who do i turn them over to? [05:36] erm, are you reporting a bug? === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu === sirukin [~sirukin@Toronto-ppp219475.sympatico.ca] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [05:36] or requesting help? .... [05:38] so jdub? any ideas what is wrong? === Dreamer3 looks around to see if a lot of debian users are here [05:38] well, i was in here a few days ago, and daniels told me to try the new hoary live cd to see if x.org works with my gfx card, which it doesnt. i came back, and reported the failure, and they wanted my to submit the logfiles so they could maybe work on a fix for it [05:38] needs more butter === dhewg [~dhewg@dsl-082-082-140-012.arcor-ip.net] has left #ubuntu [] === Dreamer3 thinks linux will be dominant the day that you don't have to check your hardware first before installing it... [05:39] DAC1138: ah, you may want to talk to daniels then, but sounds to me like he wanted you to submit a bug report: bugzilla.ubuntu.com [05:39] DAC1138: file a bug, attach the logs [05:39] or listen to jdub =) [05:39] submit a bug to ubuntu or x.org? its an X issue [05:39] ubuntu [05:39] alright, thanks [05:40] no, thank you ;) [05:40] should a dist-upgrade be done in single-user mode? [05:40] or no X [05:40] or does it not really matter [05:41] Ex-Cyber_: no === farruinn doesn't think it matters === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [05:41] it doesn't matter [05:41] you might not see all the changes until a reboot but blah === elmaya [~elmaya@dsl-200-78-65-209.prod-infinitum.com.mx] has joined #ubuntu === little_bear [~little_be@201.135.248.145] has joined #ubuntu [05:41] cowbud: I assumed that much, just didn't know if random support processes might trample parts of the upgrade proces [05:41] s [05:41] Ex-Cyber_: nope [05:42] Ex-Cyber_: every now and then it can happen [05:42] nothing an apt-get -f install doesn't fix [05:42] but it rarely happens.. [05:42] Ex-Cyber_: for instance, firefox can do some astoundingly broken things if you upgrade it underneath [05:42] cowbud: unrelated [05:42] ahh you mean that [05:42] cowbud: he's asking about things breaking if upgraded while running === dsr [~fboyer@MTL-HSE-ppp189049.qc.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu [05:42] I thought oyu meant not finishing all the way.. [05:43] jdub: what approach do you recommend to minimize problems? I think I did it single-user last time but now I don't remember [05:43] Ex-Cyber_: don't bother, just be aware that you're upgrading === rellik [~rellik@r12ptsm8f.desktop.umr.edu] has joined #ubuntu [05:44] okay [05:44] fair enough [05:44] jdub: you didnt answer my question... do you have any ideas how to fix it? [05:44] monoxide: not off the top of my head === vitamin_b [~brad@c-67-183-14-60.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:45] monoxide: you need to provide more information, eg. pasting the fstab line, etc. [05:45] i did before... === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [05:45] [15:04] #/dev/hde1 /var ext2 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1 [05:45] [15:04] #/dev/hde2 /usr ext2 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1 [05:45] [15:04] #/dev/hde3 /opt ext2 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1 [05:45] [15:04] #/dev/hde4 /pub ext2 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1 [05:45] AHH [05:46] farruinn, do i just copy and past the entire logfiles to the text im submitting to them? [05:46] except it should be /dev/sda (it is now) [05:46] DAC1138: should be able to attach them === tritium [~tritium@12-202-90-180.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:46] but I think you might have to actually submit the bug first... === xhypno [~philip@adsl-065-013-061-003.sip.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:47] I think I've submitted all of 1 bugs which was actually a feature request ;-) [05:47] hey room [05:47] I've submitted 4 === Ycros [~Ycros@c211-30-18-47.thorn1.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [05:48] of course, this is probably a good thing since I'm running warty :D [05:48] one turned out to not be a bug...just something weird happened to my /etc/exports file [05:48] farruinn, maybe i do need to submit it first, i dont see an attach option [05:48] the error i am getting is: fsck.ext2: No such file or directory while trying to open /dev/sda4 [05:48] monoxide: when are you running that? [05:49] that is fstab, so bootup [05:49] monoxide: now that's more useful -> that means the sda4 device doesn't exist yet === cowbud nods to jdub [05:49] DAC1138: I'm pretty sure that's what you need to do, maybe someone can verify this? [05:49] monoxide: have you added the sata module to /etc/modules? === tolstoy [~tolstoy@c-67-171-195-50.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [05:49] which is? [05:49] i added sata_nv [05:49] monoxide: the file, /etc/modules [05:50] DAC1138: click new, type in your info, hit commit. go back to that bug and attach your files. [05:50] jdub, need doesn't know the name of the module... === brittBS [~Britt@12-203-173-178.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:50] yes, which module is it [05:51] monoxide: what kind of sata hardware do you have? [05:51] its a seagate 200GB sata drive running on an onboard sata chip [05:51] what's your mobo chipset? [05:52] dont know, how do i check [05:52] type lspci === bur[n] er [~norml@c-67-173-243-73.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:52] Time to try the newest Hoary Live cd. Later [05:52] monoxide: there'll be a reference to ide, ata or scsi [05:53] man, submitting a bug is frusturating === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [05:54] i hope someone sees this and actually tries to do something about the problem [05:54] DAC1138: submit a bug about it ;) [05:54] a bug about bugs, lol [05:54] its a via chipset, il paste in a sec [05:54] jdub: are we going to be able to do a apt-get dist-upgrade to Hoary Hedgehog from warty? [05:54] ushooz: but of course! [05:55] you can do it right now if you want to test the devel branch with us [05:55] are the sources some where on your website? === monoxide`linux [~monoxide@dialup-102.29.221.203.acc11-dryb-mel.comindico.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [05:55] so I can add to my source.list [05:55] ushooz: s/warty/hoary/ and you're done [05:56] very nice. Walking to my other machine to do it. Do not want to mess up my lappy [05:56] only do it if you're comfortable with tracking the devel branch and know debian system swell [05:56] 0000:00:0f.0 RAID bus controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VIA VT6420 SATA RAID Controller (rev 80) [05:56] 0000:00:0f.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06) === DAC1138 [~dave@24-56-174-97.co.warpdriveonline.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:56] x crash again :-( [05:56] no worries. Been linuxing since 97. I know my way around :) [05:57] monoxide: dude .. RAID ... and you didn't see that in the bios? [05:57] its not in the bios... [05:57] DAC1138: you need to attach the logs [05:57] i swear it :S [05:57] i did attach the logs. bug was sent [05:57] so you need the via sata module I suppose [05:57] DAC1138: asking someone to mail you for them means extra work and less likely for your bug to be fixed [05:57] I just rediscoved Ubuntu. Slacker at home and RHEL at work === Cindux [BOSS@d141-147-129.home.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:57] bla [05:57] also Sparc Solaris at work [05:58] oh, BTW, im not on ubuntu now, im on vector. im downloading and going to install the test ubuntu versions [05:58] Oo Solaris OS :P === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [05:58] ushooz, just be careful with dist-upgrade removing packages. [05:58] sometimes it's what you want, sometimes you don't want to let it [05:58] jdub, i attached them [05:58] is an Intel Celeron 2.4ghz actually 2.4ghz ? [05:58] tritium, not worried on that rig :) [05:58] monoxide: add sata_via to /etc/modules [05:58] ushooz, cool then [05:59] I have done it on Debian. Was not sure how close to the debian model Ubuntu was going to be. :) [05:59] can you use SuperKaramba with gnome? or only kde? [05:59] works with both [05:59] it's Tali Winters damn it! [06:00] my friends tried it worked fine [06:00] gdesklets is the superkaramba equiv, though it will work with gnome afaik [06:00] make that Talia [06:00] ok, added, just going to try it in a sec === ficusplanet [~brad@146.140.232.64.transedge.com] has joined #ubuntu [06:01] pff noone answer lol [06:01] What's so bad about a celeron ? [06:01] Cindux, we told you earlier. [06:01] no no [06:01] they are crippled pentiums [06:01] Hey everyone. I finally got beagle/best running, but after just 1-2 minutes, beagled takes up over 600MB of RAM! Is there any way to make this more sane? I'd really like to be able to use it. [06:01] ugg [06:01] lol [06:01] I'm just asking do they still run as 2.4 ? [06:01] ficusplanet: yah same problem here === Sye [~Sye@cpe-066-061-080-233.midsouth.rr.com] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === Tomcat_ [Tomcat@pD95E6AE7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:02] at that frequency* [06:02] ficusplanet: other people have the issue too but I haven't seen a bug yet and I am too lazy :) [06:02] ficusplanet: you need to help with development. [06:02] I probably will file one soon === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [06:02] jdub, I'd love to, but I don't know C#. [06:02] ficusplanet: so you'll have to wait [06:02] it's under active development [06:03] memory usage is a very well known problem === cg0def [~cg0def@69-165-1-53.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:03] ficusplanet, did you build it yourself? [06:04] jdub, I understand. I did not want to complain; I was just wondering if what I was experiencing was normal or if I had done something wrong. Yes, I built it myself. [06:04] tritium: http://ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BeagleInstallHowto === Towny [~mtownsen@ip68-7-139-108.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:04] (there'll be a beagle deb in hoary universe tonight or over the weekend, btw) [06:04] Anyone installed the PowerPC version before? [06:04] although last I checked dbus cvs is broken (last time == 2 days ago) [06:04] cowbud, yes, thanks, I was just asking him [06:04] jdub: sweet [06:04] Towny: yes [06:05] must be getting hammered with the Live CD. Going slow :) [06:05] Towny, yep === Xirdneh [~idocode@201.129.106.97] has joined #ubuntu [06:05] ushooz: getting the torrent? === bj_ [~bj@ool-4352a84b.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:05] did it work okay on a G3 Powerbook? [06:05] probably the slashdot story has something to do with that [06:05] cowbud, dist-upgrading a box to hoary [06:05] ok, what is beagle? [06:05] ushooz: ahh [06:05] Towny: What G3 powerbook? [06:05] hams, http://www.gnome.org/projects/beagle/ [06:05] hams, really cool search util [06:05] Towny, worked great on a G3 box for me. [06:05] Towny: Bronze or black keyboard? [06:06] black [06:06] hams think google search on steroids http://www.gnome.org/projects/beagle/ and nat.org/demos [06:06] Towny: Those are OldWorld, so the CD won't boot on them. [06:06] oh really? rats [06:06] cafuego: actually the cd will [06:06] Towny: You can get going with a small MacOS partition and using BootX [06:06] farruinn: on an *oldworld* mac? === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [06:06] I wish streamtuner didn't break [06:07] cafuego: isn't booting it with bootX booting it? [06:07] i've never understood the fascination with search utils [06:07] jdub: so how does ubuntu get around the inotify dep of beagle or does the ubuntu kernel already have that patch installed? [06:07] farruinn: No, BootX requires MacOS. [06:07] I'll just stick with os 9.2.2 [06:07] cowbud: had inotify for ages :) [06:07] cowbud: latest kernel has inotify 0.18 [06:07] jdub: ahh [06:07] Towny: I think work is underway on quik (bootloader) to be able to natively handle OldWorld macs too. [06:07] jdub: what about networkmanager is that being worked in? === K-Rich [~krich@70-97-106-187.bras01.sho.az.frontiernet.net] has left #ubuntu [] [06:08] cowbud: not for hoary [06:08] cafuego: you mean specifically for ubuntu? [06:08] farruinn: No, in general (and for Debian) === DigitalStatic [~DigitalSt@h129.51.102.166.ip.alltel.net] has joined #ubuntu === kquamme94 [~kquamme94@node.tor] has joined #ubuntu [06:09] I wonder why the monitor_mode patch for orinoco_cs isn't applied === ferris [~ferris@c-67-164-111-65.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:09] its working, but its saying that the sda mounts wherent cleanly unmounted, so its running a check on them at the moment [06:09] :) [06:09] tritium: Isn't in the kernel yet. You can fetch the 0.15 driver from savannah and it will work just dandy. [06:09] Towny: check out http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/InstallOnOldWorldMacs [06:09] is there an easy way to convert a .wav to a .mp3 ? [06:09] cafuego, still not in the kernel? It has been some time. [06:09] tritium: because you didn't file the bug about it [06:10] i love tor :) [06:10] ferris: audacity is really good [06:10] so when hoary is officially released, will everyone running hoary now be already caught up, or are there still going to be slight package differences? [06:10] finally got it to work [06:10] jdub, 2.6.8.1-4 has inotify? [06:10] jdub, I think it's due in the kernel sometime soon. Am I right cafuego? [06:10] I gotta go to bed for my exams tomorrow everbody [06:10] tritium: BLame Linus ;-) [06:10] qcompson: if you've got ubuntu-base and ubuntu-desktop installed, you'll be right [06:10] I thought the latest orenco drivers incorporated monitor mode and were adhering to a monitor mode standard.. [06:10] g'ntie [06:10] err orinoco haha orenco [06:10] qcompson we'll probably move on to bendy :p === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [06:11] I know I probably will [06:11] alainm, thanks [06:11] cowbud: Not the ones in the vanilla 2.6.10 kernel [06:11] ushooz: 2.6.10-12 === gen [~lek@66.169.152.101.ts46v-10.otnd2.ftwrth.tx.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [06:11] IT WORKS!! :D [06:11] ah. Hoary :) then [06:11] thanks jdub :) [06:11] ushooz: install linux-686 or whatever's appropriate for your cpu [06:11] monoxide: rockin' [06:11] yay u win === cafuego stabs the weather. Cool down already. === monoxide [~monoxide0@dialup-102.29.221.203.acc11-dryb-mel.comindico.com.au] has left #ubuntu [] [06:12] jdub, thanks for all the answers. You seem quite busy anwsering everyone [06:12] sweet [06:12] yeah, and no one's even asking hard questions yet ;) [06:13] how can I increase my bogomips? :p [06:13] new kernel makes my centrino work without rmmoding and re-modprobing :) i love it [06:13] randabis-laptop: Add a spray can of nitrous oxide to the cpu. [06:13] anyone here run hoary and ut2004? [06:13] cafuego, but I'm le tired :( [06:13] randabis-laptop: Pfff. [06:13] cafuego: didn't you used to be a #debian junkie? [06:14] bur[n] er: Still there [06:14] :) [06:14] cafuego: so they're still working on quik? [06:14] bur[n] er, you're not the only one who remembers :) [06:14] I'll fire zee missles later [06:14] farruinn: Last time I heard from the debian quik maintainer, yes. (last week) [06:15] what's quik? [06:15] cafuego: cool! I thought he had forsaken it =) === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [06:15] oldworld mac bootloader [06:15] farruinn: Might be the NEW maintainer then, simonrvn in #debian [06:15] cafuego: yes, it used to be Ethan Benson if my memory serves correctly === cafuego winces. Damn alarm systems! Bit of thunder sets 'em off :-( [06:17] These new liveCDs go to eleven! [06:18] eleven? === farruinn wishes he had a cdr so he could use the ppc livecd [06:18] yeah, it's more than 10 [06:18] stuNNed, stupid movie reference [06:18] it's a joke from 'This is spinal tap' [06:19] oh heh === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [06:19] will canonical be shipping free hoary cd's? [06:19] yes [06:20] aweseome! [06:21] whoa [06:21] jdub, are we going to get to see any candidates for the new website design? === Dreamer3 waits for his warty cd to download :( [06:21] 35 hours left [06:22] Dreamer3: hey, be glad it's just one =) [06:22] farruinn: *laughs and sighs* === regeya [~shane@sdn-ap-013ilchicP0376.dialsprint.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:22] farruinn: i need high speed [06:23] at home I had just dialup. Whenever I ran an apt-get upgrade I'd just let it run overnight it took so long === regeya needs some pecan pie [06:23] regeya: w/vanilla ice cream? [06:23] farruinn: you come over from debian or just ubuntu user? === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [06:23] HrdwrBoB: anxious to try new livecd on proff's laptop at school we had probs before maybe bad warty livecd burn or something [06:23] debian was my first linux [06:23] farruinn, that's what I still do; there's a DSL provider on this road, but the phone company hasn't run new line yet [06:24] cool [06:24] they will Real Soon Now === jkroon81 [~jkroon81@c83-249-198-140.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu [06:24] stuNNed, yum [06:24] steal their cheerios until they run the line [06:24] regeya: poundage i don't need :) [06:24] Will Mono be included in the next release of Ubuntu? [06:24] jkroon81: good question, maybe in multiverse? [06:25] I would think so, with the inclusion of beagle [06:25] oh ya [06:25] and muine hopefully === stuNNed really likes muine [06:25] hehe [06:25] is mono a C# implementation for linux or something? [06:25] tritium, so will Beagle _will_ be invluded ? [06:26] stuNNed: just winners [06:26] jkroon81, yes, tonight or tomorrow [06:26] jkroon81: both will be in universe, but not in main [06:26] jdub, was that answer to my question? === regeya wishes people would use something like python instead of mono [06:26] jdub: winners? === drspin [~cole@ip68-2-119-141.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #Ubuntu [06:26] stuNNed, I think he was answering me [06:27] where does ubuntu put icons? [06:27] shouldn't x-chat register a irc:// handler with gnome? [06:27] jdub, ok, works for me [06:27] tritium: yeas === dutch [~dutch@cpe-024-211-215-161.nc.rr.com] has left #ubuntu [] [06:27] cowbud: ever try irssi? [06:27] stuNNed: nope fine with x-chat :) [06:27] irssi is pretty nice [06:27] cowbud: hehe :) [06:27] stuNNed: why is irssi that much better? === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu === stuNNed likes irssi with screen and ssh [06:27] make that a why, [06:28] yah I don't want text style.. === zerokarmaleft [~zerokarma@ip24-253-217-164.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:28] I like the tabs.. [06:28] ahh, okiez cowbud [06:28] jdub: that was kinda an indirect way of asking if a bug report would help in the matter or if someone had already said no to this since both ubuntu an debian do not do it (i.e. making x-chat register wtih gnome as a irc:// handler..) [06:29] cowbud: only adv really is can remote irc [06:29] cowbud: dunno [06:29] stuNNed: ?? === K-Rich [~krich@70-97-106-187.bras01.sho.az.frontiernet.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:29] cowbud: plus it's text mode which is nice i guess, something new for me really [06:29] jdub ahh what the hell I am already on the page.. === mkerby [~michele@66.212.101.164] has joined #ubuntu [06:29] cowbud: if you can come up with a patch or whatever to do it, that'd be swet. [06:29] cowbud: start an irssi session in screen, remotely ssh into the box, do a screen -x pty-blah and it resumes your irc session [06:30] man, what's up with this slashdot ubuntu story [06:30] hah I guess I could do the extra work :) [06:30] whiprush: today? === jkroon81 [~jkroon81@c83-249-198-140.bredband.comhem.se] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [06:30] Okay just looked at the hoary live CD... looks great... few questions though.... if i go ahead and upgrade... will it break anything (like my tweaked menus in Gnome, themes, config files, nvidia driver etc?) [06:30] yeah the livecd announcement === stuNNed thinks ubuntu should use blackbox as wm instead of the other default *grin* [06:31] eh, sorry, openbox [06:31] not blackbox [06:31] sheesh :) [06:31] where can I find icons in ubuntu? [06:31] drspin: you mean desktop icons? [06:31] drspin: /usr/share/pixmaps ? [06:31] try /usr/share/pixmaps [06:31] thanks [06:31] K-Rich, nothing should break... I have 3 systems running hoary and their pretty solid === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [06:32] they're [06:32] will the new gnome menu system honor changes to the warty menu? [06:32] farruinn: not likely [06:32] randabis-laptop: so it won't change my menus (except adding places and desktop) ? [06:32] randabis-laptop: what farruinn asked :P [06:32] jdub: didn't think it would since the new ubuntu menu is vastly different... === stuNNed had breakage in hoary oh well, some live on the edge :) [06:32] I can't say for certain, but it "shouldn't" [06:33] farruinn: it's the infrastructure beneath that is vastly different [06:33] K-Rich: depends on what changes you're worried about [06:33] right, I suppose that's what i meant, entirely differnt applet [06:33] anyone know how to change the font xfce4 uses? [06:33] yes [06:33] it's in the settings app [06:33] jdub: thinks i've added etc.... will i need to get a new nvidia module etc [06:34] K-Rich: unlikely. modifying menus was unsupported. [06:34] farruinn: not an entirely different applet [06:34] drspin check the user interface applet [06:34] heh, ok, so I know nothing :D [06:34] K-Rich, some applets are gone, like wireless and inbox monitor [06:34] in the settings manager === froust [~liam@S0106000f6694d7bf.ed.shawcable.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [06:35] inbox monitor never worked here [06:35] I just wish it wasn't rocket science to change menus in hoary [06:35] jdub: so basiclly all i need to do is change warty to hoary in sources.list and comment out security? [06:35] tritium: is the trash one still there? [06:35] K-Rich: you don't have to comment out security [06:35] K-Rich, yes [06:35] in the current state, one needs to be a brain surgeon to change hoary's menus...lol [06:35] tritium: and the volume control.... those are the only ones i use regularly :) [06:35] yep [06:36] still there [06:36] randabis-laptop: ummmm... what do you mean (just stoped me maybe) === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu === drspin [~cole@ip68-2-119-141.ph.ph.cox.net] has left #Ubuntu [] [06:37] I've been reading up on MOTU stuff. Does every current ubuntu maintainer have a wiki page? [06:37] tritium: I've tried searching for them, but I don't think they do :( [06:37] tritium: what is MOTU stuffs? [06:37] stuNNed, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/MOTU/ [06:38] K-Rich, applications:/// doesn't work in nautilus in hoary [06:38] tritium: danke [06:38] so changing your menus is not simple [06:38] randabis-laptop: will it when it is released in April ? [06:38] farruinn, I think you're right [06:38] K-Rich, I don't know, I'm not the one to ask [06:39] randabis-laptop: moving to freedesktop.org menu's now will make editing menu tools easier to implement in the long run. [06:39] yeah [06:39] I'm not against the move at all [06:39] I'm just saying it's not easy to do at the moment [06:40] hm...tone controls on my sb live don't seem to work...*shrug* [06:40] randabis-laptop: i think i may have to stick with warty for now then... i use some prety obscure apps i've added to the menu for ease === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu === Sye [~Sye@cpe-066-061-080-233.midsouth.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [06:41] meh, I just use gdesklets for that [06:41] farruinn: and do you like ubuntu better than "Debian"? [06:41] randabis-laptop: yeah, i was trying to get gdesklets working on here, but it seems borked in Warty [06:41] farruinn: i ask that realizing that ubuntu is devian derived [06:41] is there way command line to set the window manager? [06:41] I had it going in warty [06:42] Dreamer3: I like ubuntu for it's 6 month release schedule as opposed to Debian's 3 years =) [06:42] works in hoary just fine as well === FireEgl [Ariel@Ariel.Atlantica.US] has joined #Ubuntu [06:43] randabis-laptop: i'll try it again here now then... was trying to get the start bar woirking (think yiou use it if i remember looks like the dock bar in OSX) [06:44] farruinn: yeah, but i've been running testing forever, so i don't deal with a 3 year release cycle :) [06:44] yeah I use that on my main box [06:44] farruinn, there's no way I have experience like some of the MOTU candidates. my wiki page of contributions would be very sad [06:44] farruinn: i'm just looking for something "faster" [06:44] farruinn: debian otb just feels a little slow lately... [06:44] Dreamer3: I _LOVE_ ubuntu, it's great, and it has apt [06:44] Dreamer3: sarge was slow, sid was speedier... but i've converted :) happily i might add [06:44] <3 ubuntu === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [06:45] tritium: :/ [06:45] neither would mine, that's for sure [06:46] sort of intimidating [06:47] talk to ogra or one of the othe MOTU's, maybe you're more qualified than you think =) [06:47] it wouldn't hurt to ask anyway [06:47] I've talked a bit with a couple, actually. have you? [06:47] no, don't think I'm in that league [06:48] start reading the debian new maintainer's guide, and start practicing making packages. [06:48] I was reading the debian maint-guide yesterday... [06:48] randabis-laptop: nope... it's broke in Warty... just tried again, when i click on any .display it gives an error === whiprush nods [06:48] whiprush, are you a candidate? [06:48] I'm in the same boat as you. [06:48] I'm on the list. [06:48] good for you [06:48] that's a better boat than I'm in, actually [06:48] the list.. the list.. oh never mind [06:48] K-Rich, weird...I just added them via command line and it would work [06:48] just keep reading and learning ... === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [06:49] randabis-laptop: what command to load them ? === stuNNed [~stuNNed@adsl-068-209-149-165.sip.msy.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:49] I can't remember right now, there's a gdesklets howto on ubuntu forums with the command though === mindphasr [~mind@000-477-526.area4.spcsdns.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:50] tritium: even if you end up sucking at it, there's always some work somewhere that needs to be done. Trying never hurts. [06:50] whiprush, I suppose you're right [06:50] K-Rich: can't you just open the file in nautilus? [06:51] he said he gets an error when he does [06:51] tritium: and if you end up pissing everyone off just change your irc handle ;-) [06:51] farruinn, heh [06:51] randabis-laptop: I vaguely remember that happening to me, but I don't remember what I did... [06:52] umm, did I get this right [06:52] there is a live cd of hoary? [06:52] whiprush, you dind't put your irc nick on the candidate list [06:52] well like I said, doing it via command line worked for me [06:52] or does the wiki page not list you? [06:52] wezzer look at the channel topic [06:52] wezzer-: yep, just came out today, the milestone release, that is [06:52] tritium: It's on my homepage, I'm JorgeOCastro [06:52] Oh, hi Jorge [06:52] oh! wonderful! [06:52] heh, hello [06:53] I have to try that out as soon as I get to home === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [06:53] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/20050126.2/ [06:53] whiprush, Michael Rimbert here === zenrox is now known as zen-afk [06:56] is there a terminal that is true transparent? === bitfoo [~bitfoo@rdu26-78-203.nc.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [06:57] dudes :| [06:57] i gained 1000 fps going from 386 to 686 kernel :| [06:57] seriously, i KNOW where my car is [06:57] according to glxgears :/ [06:57] bitfoo, holy smokes! [06:57] cafuego: lol === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [06:57] i know, its the crazy :| [06:58] randabis-laptop: looking for the howto now [06:58] bitfoo: seriously... === Dreamer3 [~unknown@sdn-ap-009tnnashP0029.dialsprint.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:58] yeh seriously :| [06:58] anyone else have issues with recording (mic) under ubuntu ? i hear it through my speakers but will not record [06:58] Today I made a simple kiosk with Ubuntu and a G3 [06:58] doesnt seem any faster but that is what glxgears is reporting :| [06:59] The plan is that it runs a script (while true; do if mozilla; then mozilla done) [06:59] wm_eddie: I hope you have a 'not' in there === Sye [~Sye@cpe-066-061-080-233.midsouth.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [07:00] do I need one? [07:00] while true { if (not mozilla) { mozillas } } [07:01] why not mozilla? [07:01] wm_eddie: Coz that would be what we know as a fork bomb === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [07:02] ? no it says if mozilla returns 0 then run mozilla, otherwise if mozilla returns 0... [07:02] bed time. [07:02] bitfoo: have you tried other benchmarks? [07:02] g'night tritium [07:02] farruinn, good night === tritium [~tritium@12-202-90-180.client.insightBB.com] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [07:03] night treed [07:03] eh sorry treed [07:03] I wonder if I could add a "Run X with this script" option in GDM. === dan_ [~dan@pix012-105.pix.wmich.edu] has joined #ubuntu [07:03] stunned [07:03] wm_eddie: yeah. 0 == false (not mozilla) [07:03] no i havent :| [07:04] bitfoo: any other games/gl installed? [07:04] ahh... [07:04] but it works either way. [07:05] running 386 kenrel here [07:05] after running mplayer (and having it crash) I lose my local-echo, so when I type I don't see what I am typing.... how do I get it back? [07:05] reset [07:05] It seems to run real slow though, it worries me. [07:05] rellik: er, type reset and hit enter [07:05] and I wonder if there's a way I can turn off configuration editing in mozilla... [07:05] whiprush, thanks === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu === stuNNed [~stuNNed@adsl-068-209-149-165.sip.msy.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:10] stunned nothing but the default gnome games :| === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu === davepet [~root@host-66-81-129-27.rev.o1.com] has left #ubuntu [] === Dreamer3 [~unknown@sdn-ap-009tnnashP0029.dialsprint.net] has joined #ubuntu === kleedrac [~kleedrac@static24-72-113-74.yorkton.accesscomm.ca] has joined #ubuntu === K-Rich [~krich@70-97-106-187.bras01.sho.az.frontiernet.net] has left #ubuntu [] === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [07:14] Anyone know how to get IPX working for Warcraft II BNE? [07:14] cafuego: I just built quik on my beige G3. I'd have to be insane to try it, but I think I might... [07:15] hello, anyone? [07:15] wm_eddie: google for mozilla and kiosk [07:15] wm_eddie: i'm pretty sure i read something on that recently [07:16] hi === da_bon_bon [~rohandhru@210.18.160.134] has joined #ubuntu [07:17] make em say UHHHH [07:17] oh cool. [07:17] thanks === Dreamer3_ [~unknown@sdn-ap-004tnnashP0181.dialsprint.net] has joined #ubuntu === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu === Dreamer3_ sighs. === wd40 [~coffman@email.sygate.com] has joined #ubuntu === dan__ [~dan@pix012-105.pix.wmich.edu] has joined #ubuntu === Dreamer31 [~unknown@sdn-ap-009tnnashP0067.dialsprint.net] has joined #ubuntu === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu === FireEgl [Ariel@Ariel.Atlantica.US] has joined #Ubuntu [07:25] np [07:26] hi all, I have a create labs SB Live 24 Audigy LS soundcard which I'm having trouble with... I think I need the snd-ca0106 module, but am having trouble compiling linux 2.6.11rc2, which supports it. Any suggestions for ubuntu kernel compiling? === thrift [~thrift@pool-141-158-89-51.pitt.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [07:28] first of all, are you using kernel-source* or linux-source* package? [07:29] you probably want linux-source-* === kleedrac [~kleedrac@static24-72-113-74.yorkton.accesscomm.ca] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [07:31] I believe I've tried both. Linux-source is from kernel.org? That was the last I tried. [07:31] Is there a command line based partitioning tool during the ubuntu install? === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [07:32] wd40: tbh I'm not entirely sure, but I think linux-source is what's used for building the ubuntu kernel images === Dreamer31 has always used patched kernels straight from kernel.org === BenZ|Laptop [~bnurmi_la@CPE-141-168-11-101.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [07:33] BenZ|Laptop: hey [07:33] hey [07:33] How hard is it going to be to dual boot XP and Ubuntu on my dell? [07:33] i do it on my inspiron 8600 [07:33] easy [07:33] just install windows first [07:33] BenZ|Laptop: delete xp :) [07:33] ive got an 8600 [07:33] BenZ|Laptop: haha no shit, how new? [07:33] 3-4 months === zerokarmaleft [~zerokarma@ip24-253-217-164.ok.ok.cox.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [07:34] cool, i got mine a month ago [07:34] the 1.7, 512mb, 8x dvd. === tolstoy [~tolstoy@c-67-171-195-50.client.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [07:34] what you pay? [07:34] pfft === Lathiat <- 2.0GHz P-M :P [07:34] 2200 [07:34] nice. [07:34] mm, $1k cash off :) [07:34] apt-cache search linux-source yields nothing, but apt-cache search kernel-source yields a bunch of stuff. There is a 2.6.10 kernel in fact, which works, but it doesn't support the sound card, and 2.6.11 appears to. === Dreamer31 has a thinkpad t22 p3/900 512mb [07:34] BenZ|Laptop: just install windows in a partition (i got 10GB on the end of my 60GB) [07:34] wd40: download the source from kernel.org [07:35] wd40: you're on warty or hoary? [07:35] wd40: and read the kernel compiling how-to... though it might be helpful to find a .config from ubuntu to start with [07:35] Dreamer31: ick, no. === Dreamer31 wonders if he's too hard-core linux [07:35] wd40: why do you want to build a kernel? [07:35] jdub: no what? [07:35] hoary [07:35] so install windows first.. then what? [07:35] I'm trying to install ubuntu on a machine with a real lack of memory and it's flipping out about lowmem and asking me to set up swap space so it can install...I can't find any partitioning tool to ues from the command line, odes anyone know what to do [07:35] Dreamer31: don't build linus kernels [07:35] Dreamer31: Building your own kernels is so 1996. [07:35] BenZ|Laptop: then install ubuntu ;) === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [07:36] jdub: *laughs* why not? :) [07:36] wd40: [07:36] BenZ|Laptop: then install ubuntu and it should just work (tm) [07:36] $ apt-cache search linux-source [07:36] linux-patch-ubuntu-2.6.10 - Ubuntu patches to Linux 2.6.10 [07:36] linux-source-2.6.10 - Linux kernel source for version 2.6.10 with Ubuntu patches [07:36] [07:36] pw: oh, really? [07:36] dreamer: Really. [07:36] Dear Ubuntu [07:36] Have babies [07:36] love benzor. [07:36] Dreamer31: because linus kernels are pants, and the ubuntu kernels are rad. [07:36] i have twice compiled, the last time no errors, but both times got kernel panic on boot [07:36] jdub: i run linus + con colivals patchset [07:36] jdub: what does ubuntu kernels have? [07:36] wd40: why do you want to build a kernel? [07:36] Dreamer31: they have love [07:36] Dreamer31: see linux-patch-ubuntu-2.6.10 [07:36] jdub: I'm liking this hot "just works" sexxoring that the Ubuntu kernels give me. [07:37] jdub: where is that? [07:37] jdub: i need urls, i don't have ubuntu [07:37] Dreamer31: in archive.ubuntu.com [07:38] Dreamer31: kinda pointless if you don't have ubuntu [07:38] I have a create labs SB Live 24 Audigy LS soundcard which I'm having trouble with... I think I need the snd-ca0106 module, but am having trouble compiling linux 2.6.11rc2, which supports it. Any suggestions for ubuntu kernel compiling? [07:38] jdub: i'm wanting to know what patches the ubuntu kernel has [07:38] look at that package [07:38] jdub: hardly pointless :) [07:38] Dreamer31: So go get the package, crack it open, and hav a look. [07:38] have* [07:38] wd40: I compiled my ubunut kernel from source [07:39] when was the last change to warty release? [07:39] pw: next on my list... 56k modem, can only do one thing at a time really === pw hasn't compiled a kernel for years. === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [07:40] pw: where in this dir structure do i look for tha package? === maximaus [~maximaus@user-37kac6e.dialup.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu [07:40] wd40: I just downloaded the kernel source from kernel.org, un tarred it in /usr/src, linked it to /usr/src/linux went in that directory, make oldconfig, make, make modules, make modules_install, copy the bzImage to /boot, make yourself an initrd with mkinitrd, and update grub [07:40] dreamer: pool/ [07:40] pw: yeah, found me way there, working down === HillTop is now known as HillTop_ [07:42] thrift: okay, previously i did the kmake ... package-something-erother and it seed to do most of that but didn't make initrd, i think that was cuz i compiled ext3 into the kernel and not as a module (i read), but that maybe just doesn't work right. I'll do it the old fashioned way that ;) Thanks:) [07:43] wd40: I have no idea how kmake or anything like that works, but my kernel is running pretty good the "old fashioned way" so give it a go, the mkinitrd was the only thing that threw me [07:43] or you could just use the ubuntu kernel [07:44] also i use make menuconfig to find stuff easier. maybe I selected too many pkgs... [07:44] he said a module for his sound card isn't in the ubuntu kernel === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu === HillTop_ [~chatzilla@dt060n09.san.rr.com] has left #ubuntu [] [07:44] wd40: well ya i make modifications there too, but to end up with a replica of the ubuntu kernel you don't need to === pez252 [~spaz@roc-66-66-1-55.rochester.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [07:45] thrift: you can stil make a module [07:45] without recompiling the whole kernel [07:46] pw: archive isn't working for me [07:46] ah [07:46] finally === HillTop [~chatzilla@dt060n09.san.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [07:46] that's what they tell you, but i had no luck doing that with my hpt374 and highpoints module [07:46] pw: ok, i don't see a linux-patch-ubuntu? [07:46] it wouldn't compile with the kernels headers there.. [07:46] Question for someone... How can I burn a Ubuntu cd from within OS X? [07:47] it crashes Disk Utility and cdrecord makes a coaster === AlohaWolf [alohawolf@cpe-67-49-96-168.socal.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu === HillTop [~chatzilla@dt060n09.san.rr.com] has left #ubuntu [] === wd40 [~coffman@email.sygate.com] has left #ubuntu [] [07:47] pez252: what is the cdrecord command you are trying? [07:48] cdrecord -v speed=24 dev=IODVDServices Desktop/hoary-live-powerpc.iso === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [07:49] prex252: I don't use OSX, but assuming you know what's up with the dev, that looks fine to me, you sure that the integrity of your iso is good/did you md5 it? [07:50] Dreamer31: That's because you're looking for pool/l/linux-source-2.6.10 [07:50] pw: i found it finally with google [07:50] http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.10/linux-patch-ubuntu-2.6.10_2.6.10-12_all.deb <-- there ya go [07:51] thrift: no i didnt... though im doing that now. I downloaded it via the torrent.. isnt each piece of a torrent checksum'd? === kleedrac [~kleedrac@static24-72-113-74.yorkton.accesscomm.ca] has joined #ubuntu [07:51] pez252: yep [07:51] Is IPX networking a linux setting or wine setting? [07:51] thrift: md5 checks as ok [07:52] pez252: I'm sure there is some checking done, I was just asking that, because that's the only thing I could think of that could be wrong [07:52] anyone here use CIFS rather than SMB for mounting windows shares **NOT A SAMBA QUESTION**, problem is adding the option users in fstab to allow users to mount gives error to CIFS saying user with no prameter anyone have away around this? [07:52] melazyboy2: CIFS == SMB [07:52] HrdwrBoB: the options are different [07:52] HrdwrBoB: they are a little diff :) [07:52] HrdwrBoB: not exactly. [07:52] CIFS ~= SMB [07:52] Is it known why the iso crashes the default cd buring app in os x? Have any other suggestions? === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu === venda [~sean@ndn-165-140-32.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu [07:53] pez252: weird [07:53] pez252: did you md5sum it? [07:53] this command used to work with SMB, infact worked with 3.x doesn't work with cifs, users can't mount only root [07:53] yeah [07:53] pez252: did you do a md5sum on it? [07:53] I've burned ISOs in OSX on a number of occasions and they worked :) [07:53] pez252: weird [07:53] pex252: no ideas here, if md5ed ok, it is the cdburning apps problem I would think [07:53] pez252: and we're just about to buy a nice mac too... hmmm... [07:53] thrift: md5 checks as ok [07:53] hrmm === maximaus [~maximaus@user-37kac6e.dialup.mindspring.com] has left #ubuntu [] [07:53] What version of OS X? [07:53] pez252: hardware problem? [07:54] i found this http://www.intencha.com/adrian/burning_ubuntu_linux_iso_on_os_x.php which is why i tried cdrecord [07:54] looks like a number of people have been unable to burn from os x === stuNNed [~stuNNed@adsl-068-209-149-165.sip.msy.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:54] pez252: apple lock-in ;-) [07:54] haha may be.... [07:55] omg im an idiot, you can only mount w/ cifs as root unless installed as setuid === phin [~phin@pcp01183990pcs.strl301.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:55] is there a gui program to setup shares? [07:56] is it just me or does bitkeeper take a while to start and connect? === Dreamer31 sighs. === Dreamer31 thinks he will never have ubuntu === dan__ [~dan@pix012-105.pix.wmich.edu] has joined #ubuntu === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [07:57] morning === DagaZ [~urwhatuea@klover193.bitnet.nu] has joined #ubuntu [07:58] mako: you around? [07:58] is the tracker down for ubuntu? [07:58] ops [07:58] any gnome schema boys awake? [07:58] at least wget always work :( === ferris [~ferris@c-67-164-111-65.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu === K_Rich [~K_Rich@70-97-106-187.bras01.sho.az.frontiernet.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:00] i think i got this damned gdesklets working :D [08:00] dsfdsfds [08:00] dsfdsfdsdsfsf] [08:00] dsfdsfdsdsfsf] [08:00] dsfdsfdsdsfsf] [08:01] ... [08:01] alainm: i installed the audacity, but when i go to export the file into a .mp3 file it gives me an error === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [08:01] it says that i am missing libmp3lame.so === kleedrac [~kleedrac@static24-72-113-74.yorkton.accesscomm.ca] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === Xirdneh [~idocode@201.129.106.97] has joined #ubuntu === linuxboy [~anon@yoda.frogfoot.net] has joined #ubuntu === ferris [~ferris@c-67-164-111-65.client.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu === Adrenal [~drew@168.9.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [08:07] eww [08:07] god damit stupid cifs [08:07] so shitty [08:08] it won't let me mount the same location twice with different options [08:08] that has to be a bug [08:08] ? [08:08] should be able to mount the same location locally two times, one read/write, one readonly samba did it cifs shits out [08:08] cifs alsa won't let me mount as non-root [08:08] also* [08:09] hmm, weird [08:09] ...use samba? === null_ [~null@g624-9034.itee.uq.edu.au] has joined #ubuntu === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [08:10] samba is shitting out though too it has a problem with writes in 2.6.9+ [08:11] hmm [08:11] I/O error halts all torrents, kernel comes to a useless halt dmesg fills up with bad function calls to a faulty patch in smbclient, and the patches and config hacks to fix it get pretty ugly and aren't reliable [08:12] by kernel comming to a hault i mean it fails to fork anything === Ribs [~freenode@riblet.plus.com] has joined #ubuntu === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu === nebo [~nebo@p3E9EDAF3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu === mst [~akamai@line133-90.adsl.actcom.co.il] has joined #ubuntu [08:19] sooo [08:19] let's see what's this all about === hypatia [~mary@adsl-66-203.swiftdsl.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [08:21] ? [08:21] my problem or yours? === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu === stub [~stub@dsl-246.248.240.220.dsl.comindico.com.au] has joined #ubuntu === HillTop [~chatzilla@dt060n09.san.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu === HillTop is now known as HillTop_ === Seminole [~Seminole@rdu26-48-191.nc.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu === pisuke [~luis@84-120-67-237.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu [08:29] Quick question.. I need to get to init 3 However, init 3 is getting me nowhere. What do I have to do to get out of gnome and stop X? === HillTop_ is now known as HillTop [08:29] Seminole: switch to a console and type: ,,sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop'' [08:29] seminole how about going to a term, and as root typing 'killall gdm' [08:29] Seminole: Ubuntu, like Debian, does not play runlevel games, so 2-5 are identical. [08:29] ...crim's way is more eligant my way gets it done too =D [08:30] sweetness. Thanks [08:30] crimsun: the advantages of slackware === FireEgl [Ariel@Ariel.Atlantica.US] has joined #Ubuntu [08:30] advantage? ;P [08:30] less time to do what you want, more complexity [08:30] thats good right? [08:31] is the ubuntu tracker offline? === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [08:31] IS IT EVER?:):):) === PD [~KID@203.109.86.7] has joined #ubuntu [08:31] Dreamer31: the bugtracker, or the torrent tracker? [08:31] mst: When you said you where going to see what this is all about, what did you mean? [08:31] [bugzilla is up for me] === d3vic3 [~d3vic3@dumbledore.hbd.com] has joined #ubuntu [08:32] hi has anybody used hostdump.sh here === poningru [~Poningru@n128-227-27-159.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #ubuntu [08:34] crimsun: torrent === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [08:36] melazyboy2, downloading warthog ISO [08:36] the torrent tracker is down for some reason === poningru [~Poningru@n128-227-27-159.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #ubuntu === MrNaught [MrNaughty@d199-126-25-30.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:38] n/m, i just ordered it for $4 off eBay === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu === Dreamer31 pissed off at dial-up === ficusplanet [~brad@12-216-228-198.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu [08:43] Does anyone know of a cvs/svn frontend for GNOME? === poningru [~Poningru@n128-227-27-247.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #ubuntu === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [08:44] gcvs [08:44] at least that's what an 'apt-cache search cvs | grep frontend' turned up for me === pitti [~martin@box79162.elkhouse.de] has joined #ubuntu === phin [~phin@pcp01183990pcs.strl301.mi.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu [] === faxons [~faxons@c-24-22-54-23.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu === nir [~nir@line134-51.adsl.actcom.co.il] has joined #ubuntu === calamari [~calamari@dialup-4.240.244.216.Dial1.Phoenix1.Level3.net] has joined #ubuntu === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu === poningru [~Poningru@n128-227-13-97.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #ubuntu === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [08:55] anyone know if there's goign to be a US team for the LoCo thing? === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu === aya [~aya@national-2-82-66-184-192.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:00] vtg: why do I see "vtg has quit (client quit)" every four minutes but I never see you join? [09:00] [23:56] <-- vtg has quit (Client Quit) [09:00] [23:56] --> vtg (vertigo@route6.alumina.nl) has joined #ubuntu === ctr [~ctr@twoflower.hiddenmemory.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [09:01] there he is again [09:01] hrmm irssi [09:01] hm, I didn't see a join message [09:01] weird [09:01] I mean, wtf is he doing? [09:02] it looks like it's evey 4 minutes exactly [09:03] no idea.. [09:03] it does look like it is 4 minutes though [09:03] heh, not that it's the most important thing in the world, but it doesn't seem to busy in here right now === herman_ [~herman@213-132-207-191.adsl.nlhosting.nl] has joined #ubuntu [09:03] too* === pitti [~martin@box79162.elkhouse.de] has joined #ubuntu === stvn [~sottens@pike.pepperfish.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:05] whats a good command line BitTorrent app? === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [09:05] btdownloadcurses [09:05] but of course [09:05] use it with screen [09:07] do you know the link? google just lists forusm === stone__ [~stone@c-67-184-135-68.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu === smurfslay is now known as smurfslayer === weezer_ [~weezer@p3E9E4C86.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:08] link? [09:08] it's part of bittornado [09:08] or the stock bittorrent client [09:08] oh, ok [09:09] how do you run the ssh server? [09:09] just install it? [09:09] yeah pretty much [09:09] apt-get install openssh-server === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu === Scooter [~jocco@hnllhi1-ar6-4-7-245-121.hnllhi1.dsl-verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:10] how do you know if its running? === Dreamer31 downloads xfce4... wow, does it look sharp [09:10] ssh 127.0.0.1 =) === Dreamer31 wonders when 4.2 will hit sarge [09:10] do package repositories like those on apt-get.org work for ubuntu? [09:11] flodin: yes, but it's not entirely recommended that you use them [09:11] Peter: perhaps there's a more elegant way of checking, but that's what came to mind [09:11] well apparently i have to, if i want wmv support [09:12] Peter: like ps -A | grep sshd [09:12] Peter: pgrep sshd [09:13] morning [09:13] Dreamer31: I'm working on packages. [09:13] Dreamer31: (really, just tidying them for hoary/universe) === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu === poningru [~Yoko@n128-227-11-217.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #ubuntu === dtrandd [~jhurst@70-32-241-191.ontrca.adelphia.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [09:14] hey guys [09:14] got a problem [09:14] crimsun: are you an ubuntu dev? [09:14] My keyboard is not working in gnome [09:14] the thing is it works when starting up [09:15] login screen, I can put in my username and password [09:15] farruinn: no [09:15] and when it logs on keyboard does not respond === az[a] zel [~damien@ppp138-151.lns1.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:16] ppowerpc iso torrent down ? [09:16] poningru: warty or hoary? [09:16] for hoary live cd ? [09:16] warty [09:16] az[a] zel: sounds like torrent is down entirely [09:16] poningru: usb? [09:16] doh [09:16] no laptop keyboard [09:17] should I start ftp, or leave my client waiting for torrent to come back up? is it coming up soon? [09:17] no idea :/ [09:18] Hi. === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [09:18] currently speaking from the windows dual boot === haroldzoid [~asldasjdl@69.25.226.38] has joined #ubuntu [09:18] azazel: http://linux.slashdot.org/linux/05/01/28/0029223.shtml?tid=190&tid=162&tid=106 [09:18] thats probably why [09:19] slashdot effect can kill a tracker ? [09:19] they only have to download 30k each [09:19] see that doesnt make sense [09:19] nm [09:19] the damn tracker should be able to hold up against a slashdotting [09:19] my stupid logic back fired [09:19] im downloading via ftp now anyway === topyli [~juha@dsl-hkigw3pa5.dial.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu [09:20] what are you downloading? [09:20] hoary-powerpc-live.iso [09:20] Can someone tell me whether or not Visual Studio .Net 2003 works under wine? [09:20] so any idea crimsun? === dan__ is now known as sn0wman [09:20] haroldzoid: http://appdb.winehq.org/ [09:20] oh ok [09:21] anyone have any idea? [09:22] poningru: it worked before? [09:22] yeah === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [09:22] and it will work if I go into the recovery mode [09:22] the stupid thing just doesnt work in gnome [09:22] did you do an upgrade just before the problem started? [09:23] no, thats the thing I didnt do anything [09:23] I was typing along and then bam suddenly doesnt want to work anymore [09:23] does it work in "failsafe terminal" ? [09:24] cause then you cauld start gconf-editor from there, and try and find the gnome-keyboard settings. [09:24] yeah the failsafe terminal [09:25] it works in [09:25] hmm [09:25] ok let me go give it a try [09:25] any advice on what to expect in there? [09:25] :) [09:25] er - no? [09:25] never done that [09:25] let me check === ironwolf [~ironwolf@c-24-6-169-124.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [09:26] =) [09:26] probably some setting here? === seb128 [~seb128@ANancy-151-1-32-195.w83-196.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu === ghostie_ [ghostie@i.say.fuckthegovernment.org] has joined #ubuntu [09:27] maybe check desktop/gnome/peripherals/keyboard/ [09:27] I have: layouts: [de_DE nodeadkeys] === mxreader [~mxreader@CPE-138-217-189-6.qld.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [09:27] model: pc105 [09:27] options [] [09:28] override Settings: no [09:28] ok will go give it a try [09:28] will be back through gnome if it works [09:29] if not will be back to annoy === jcoxon77 [~jac208@jac208.caths.cam.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu [09:29] forgot to thank you guys [09:29] thnx [09:29] shock: are you in germany or have a german keyboard? [09:29] both, actually :) [09:29] what a coincidence :) [09:30] can anyone help please... i set screen resolution at 1024x768 and tick to apply by default, but when i log back on from a reboot, resolution goes back to 1600x1200 [09:30] I wonder if poningru knew that... === MorphDK [~ask@port237.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu [09:30] but rigth now I use this layout as a basis and correct it by xmodmap (the mac-layout got on my nerves) === qsdqsd__ [~jane@APuteaux-152-1-42-112.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu === vIkSiT [~vIkSiT@210.212.200.5] has joined #ubuntu === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [09:31] ok - must go to university now.... *narf@seminars* [09:31] shock: shouldn't you be using a kde distro rather than a gnome distro? ;) [09:31] Uni ist bloed [09:31] LOL.... *grrrr* === MorphDK [~ask@port237.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has left #ubuntu [] [09:31] hmm. i made a gaim 1.1.1 package but apt wants to "upgrade" it to 1.1.0 [09:32] no kde ... is ... erm ... not what I like.... never was [09:32] I use only one KDE app.... and thats k3b. [09:32] shock: yah but it is typical for germany :) [09:32] shock: I feel ya. :p [09:32] Syn-ack yah hopefully coaster will fix that shit [09:32] actually I know more gnome users, then kde users [09:32] shock: really.. [09:32] so I take it gaveman is a temporary solution? === jcapote [~jcapote@adsl-223-153-139.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:32] hey guys [09:32] no wonder.... ever sind gnome2.6 its the freakin best desktop there is for any OS [09:33] i hear you guys have a new livecd system? [09:33] topyli: did your deb rules reflect a higher version ? [09:33] hoi [09:33] must run now [09:33] bus dont wait [09:33] shock: viel spass [09:33] (am not that important) *g* [09:33] danke [09:33] shock: Ive used Gnome since it had Sawfish in it. [09:33] syn-ack: yah, those were bitter times :) [09:33] I miss those days. [09:33] uhh === Quarupt [~huh@c-24-17-57-207.client.comcast.net] has joined #Ubuntu [09:33] yah I don't [09:34] if you miss them so much apt-get install sawfish [09:34] gnome 1.4 was terrible :) === poningru [~Poningru@n128-227-11-35.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #ubuntu [09:34] bah [09:34] gmc in the stead of nautilus haha [09:34] ANyone know the Default IP for a linksys broadband router, for the HTTP interface? [09:34] cowbud: i believe the 1.1.0 on the repository has an "epoch" number or whatever it is. like 1:1.1.0, and my package doesn't [09:34] I think it is blocking ports [09:34] Quarupt: I would guess 192.168.0.1 or 192.168.1.1 === steff [~steff@pD9FFB210.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:34] Quarupt: Read the manual? [09:34] probably the former.. === HetIsLarsje [~ljansen@dyn027215.nbw.tue.nl] has joined #ubuntu [09:34] cowbud: its .100.1 [09:34] topyli: yah so add one that is higher :) [09:35] topyli: or put it on hold.. === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [09:35] syn-ack: nmap -sP '192.168.100.*' is our friend [09:35] cowbud: it's on hold, no problem. just another lesson for me :) [09:35] if you can get an ip from the router just use nmap to do the rest [09:35] topyli: :) [09:35] heh. I have a sane scheme.... 10.10.x.x. ;) [09:36] :) [09:36] cowbud: hell ping -b would tell ya anyway. === svenl [~luther@AStrasbourg-251-1-58-192.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu [09:36] syn-ack: indeed.. [09:36] can anyone help please... i set screen resolution at 1024x768 and tick to apply by default, but when i log back on from a reboot, resolution goes back to 1600x1200 [09:37] hrmm are xrandr settings supposed to persist? I didn't think so... [09:37] cowbud: I always loose boxen off of the DHCP lease expiring.... thats my fix. ;) [09:37] the xrandr? === seb128_ [~seb128@ANancy-151-1-50-223.w83-196.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu === YokoZar [~scott@d160-104-la-rue-2.ucdavis.edu] has joined #ubuntu [09:38] Im too lazy to fix it to static. heh [09:38] Syn-ack: haha [09:38] Is there a development IRC channel? === Quarupt [~huh@c-24-17-57-207.client.comcast.net] has joined #Ubuntu [09:38] grrr [09:38] YokoZar: depends on for what.. [09:38] YokoZar: thats what freenode is for I thought... [09:38] Okay stupid router, i just want to make it allow all ports so this cygwinx installer can connect [09:38] Well at wine we have a user's channel and a developers channel === Scooter farts [09:39] I have a package I'd like included in Ubuntu main that supercedes the Debian ones. [09:39] YokoZar: I think this is more or less both.... === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [09:39] stupid router! [09:39] YokoZar: #ubuntu-devel [09:39] Hmm...I suppose I should just send off an email to the mailing list, since it doesn't look like the developers really read the forum [09:39] farruinn: aha. thanks [09:39] is it configured by default to block ports [09:40] thanks farruinn [09:40] np [09:40] Quarupt: You know, thats a Good Thing. === Agrajag [~Agrajag@66-215-172-98.sb-eres.charterpipeline.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:41] yea but i want to be able to see what ports so i can change them so i can play games on net and install stuff that uses random ports [09:41] Quarupt: Explain to me as to why you would want a router fully open? [09:41] i just want some ports open === sanfordnson [~paul@host-142-204-9-69.midco.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:41] so this cygwinx installer will connect === PWM [~PWM@50A2E1C8.flatrate.dk] has joined #ubuntu [09:42] Quarupt: Then read the manual that came with the router. [09:42] how do i log in as root with ubuntu? [09:42] maybe someone else can see if it will connect for them maybe its a server problem [09:42] what flavor? [09:42] you cant in warty === the_g_cat [~the_g_cat@ip112.168.1211H-CUD12K-02.ish.de] has joined #ubuntu [09:42] sanfordnson: you don't. [09:42] you have to use sudo [09:42] sanfordnson: sudo su - I think [09:42] really [09:42] You can run su using sudo [09:42] never tried that [09:42] sudo su? [09:42] But really the best thing to do is log in as a normal user and use sudo for your root commands [09:43] YokoZar: WTF do you think the SU in sudo is? [09:43] sanfordnson: if you really really want a root shell, use 'sudo sh' [09:43] why isnt there a way to log in as root? [09:43] its a bitch wring sudo before every line in a shel script [09:43] sanfordnson: there is. [09:43] san, its for your safety [09:43] syn-ack: su is disabled in Ubuntu, but you can access it with sudo ;p [09:43] syn-ack: I use sudo su on other distros (that have root account enabled) so I can have a different root password :) [09:43] if for some reason you want a permanent root terminal === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [09:43] YokoZar: I use su just fine. I just know what Im doing. [09:44] cowbud: heh [09:44] first distro ive ever tried that didnt have root [09:44] syn-ack: i've heard these words before :) === YokoZar [~scott@d160-104-la-rue-2.ucdavis.edu] has left #ubuntu [] [09:44] ubhuti: rootsudo [09:44] By default the root password is disabled in Ubuntu. Instead use `sudo [command] ' (and your user password). If you haven't already, please read http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo [09:44] someone else try to use cygwinx installer plz and tell me if they can connect to the server or if its just me [09:44] sanfordnson: read the wiki entry [09:44] sanfordnson: it does. it is DISABLED thats why you need to use sudo [09:44] sanfordnson: there always has to be root. ubuntu just has root login disabled [09:44] someone plz === dwa_ [~dwa@garrut.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu [09:45] topyli: ever rm -fr / before? NOT FUN! heh [09:45] command line..no thanks...dont understand it or have the time to learn it [09:45] then wtf do you need root user for? [09:45] sanfordnson: then you shouldnt run linux [09:45] to install packages [09:45] syn-ack: i've done it in my home dir, when i thought i was in ~/tmp :) [09:46] sanfordnson: just use synaptic, use your user pass [09:46] sanfordnson: you can use sudo for that. === sanfordnson [~paul@host-142-204-9-69.midco.net] has left #ubuntu [] [09:46] heh, whatever [09:46] I think he was a haxor [09:46] little twit.. [09:46] WOOT! === noflex [~noflex@D40AE630.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #ubuntu === poningru [~Poningru@n128-227-27-139.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #ubuntu === Quarupt [~huh@c-24-17-57-207.client.comcast.net] has joined #Ubuntu [09:47] it works guys [09:47] whats a good free IRCd for windows? [09:47] woot [09:47] topyli: its rather neat watching it toast the drive then rm its self will break when its starts deleting the libs... heh [09:47] poningru: cool, I wish I knew how it happened [09:47] X-CHAT === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [09:48] haha [09:48] i said IRCd lol [09:48] Scooter: ircd [09:48] not irc client [09:48] 0o [09:48] Quarupt: yah it is better than people saying hey did you get on mirc tonight? [09:48] Quarupt: you do know how to use apt-cache search, right? I take it you're just looking for opinions? === Scooter has no idea what IRCd is.. [09:48] farruinn: he said for windows [09:48] Scooter: an IRC daemon [09:48] lol im not at home im at work [09:48] oh, sorry, missed that [09:48] syn-ack: i'm sure it is. I only lost my home dir, which i could restore from backups. the document i was working on was open on LyX, so i could just save that and all was well :) [09:48] on a windows box [09:49] That which you connect to with an IRC client [09:49] farrium: just had to make it default again [09:49] heh [09:49] i cant very well apt-cache search in a CMD window lol [09:49] which thankfully can be done with just a mouse === Scooter calls excorcist to get IRC daemon out of his system. [09:49] lol [09:50] lol its just the server your client connects when using irc [09:50] in windows I would use gaim for IRC [09:50] heh [09:50] nm [09:50] uh [09:50] lol, not a client i need a server [09:50] yeah just read that part [09:50] a windows IRCd [09:50] hence the nm [09:50] i know they exist [09:50] too bad no synaptic for windows :( [09:51] its called windows update [09:51] lol [09:51] hah [09:51] that only updates a few things [09:51] try over at #bb4win, those guys help me out with windows and dos stuff all the time [09:51] i hate windows, i hate being forced to use it at work [09:51] ah yes the windows update of 14000 software [09:51] for most programs you need to go find the updates yourself [09:51] administering a win2k3 server is so much more of a pain then a gentoo server [09:52] which is annoying as hell and makes me wish I could get my family to use gnome === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [09:52] updating 3 computers running 3 different windows versions is annoying as hell [09:52] make system Dual Boot 8) [09:52] Scooter: why? They'd all just use windows [09:52] we each have our own computer [09:52] I ment for yourself :) [09:53] I already do ??? === Scooter was confused [09:53] windows for games, ubuntu for everything else, BeOS when I feel masochistic [09:53] I made this in Linux 100% today 8) [09:53] http://www.s91842597.onlinehome.us/game/ninja/ninja.htm [09:54] Ubuntu rocks :) === vIkSiT [~vIkSiT@210.212.200.5] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [09:54] Agrajag: what games do you play inw indows that you can't in ubuntu? :) [09:55] bzw linux [09:55] lol doom3 [09:55] half life 2 [09:55] Quarupt: uhh doom3 has a port [09:55] Quarupt: doom3 is native linux [09:55] Quarupt: half life 2 works with cedega :) [09:55] wont run in nix only with cedega and then it sux [09:55] Quarupt: no doom3 for linux? [09:55] cedega is crap [09:55] ID software ROX :D [09:55] cedega? [09:55] www.transgaming.com [09:55] it's native. [09:55] cedega works.. [09:55] and you have to pay for it un les you can actually get the cvs source to work [09:55] I admit it isn't as good as winsh!t [09:56] it works but slowly and crappily [09:56] you pay subscription, not buy [09:56] Quarupt: most of the time the stuff that works with cedega also works with wine [09:56] and it takes away the incentive for companies to make ports [09:56] no lol it doesnt [09:56] not anything DX [09:56] WineX is evil === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [09:56] anyway, I COULD play ut2k4 in linux, if I wanted to play it at half the framerate as in windows [09:56] nothing DX will run in wine [09:56] syn-ack: we don't want to start that [09:56] most of the time the stuff that works with cedega also works with Windows... [09:56] lol scooter [09:56] Agrajag: hrmm 2k4 worked pretty good in linpoop for me.. [09:57] yeah windows is the best windows emulator [09:57] Agrajag: let me guess ati card? [09:57] no [09:57] ti4200 [09:57] huh [09:57] Did you actually compare it to running in windos on the same machine? [09:57] can anyone help me write an ircd.conf [09:57] the directx renderer for the UT2 engine is much better than the GL one [09:58] I just play games in linux for the iorny of it all [09:58] haha [09:58] Agrajag: if I get 60 frames or 120 it is still smooth enough to play but yes windows plays better I agree.. [09:58] hahahah 60 [09:58] I get 45 in windows [09:59] half that in linux === Scooter boots his Xbox with linux, and Xmame to play lame old arcade games. === jcapote [~jcapote@adsl-223-153-139.mia.bellsouth.net] has left #ubuntu [] [09:59] bummer fro you :) [09:59] I can't even play lame old arcade games, gxmame doesn't seem to work in ubuntu [09:59] try ZNES and dgen 8) [10:00] uh [10:00] Those don't run the same games [10:00] and it's zsnes, not znes [10:00] hahah [10:00] snes and sega :p [10:00] any one have setup xinerama with nvidia twinview ? [10:00] yeah so [10:00] mame runs arcade games [10:00] not console === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [10:00] yah I never got mame to work but blah.. [10:00] can you get it to work with commandline? === dave [~dave@host81-157-42-125.range81-157.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu [10:00] I was too lazy [10:00] hell if I know [10:01] and I don't want to find the right command line for each game [10:01] gxmame worked perfectly in gentoo [10:01] 0o [10:01] but it's not in ubuntu's apt repositories [10:01] Agrajag: even in universe? === cowbud is using debian atm [10:01] and the .deb I found doesn't work right, I get a blank gamelist === Scooter downloads Vitalinux and gets Gentoo with Anaconda installer [10:01] not in universe, not in multiverse [10:02] huh [10:02] Scooter: what is vitalinux? [10:02] yeah [10:02] maybe it'll be in hoary [10:02] Vitalinux is a live CD that lets you install GENTOO on your computer with Redhat Anaconda installer === MeMa|Sorcerer [~sorcerer@pD9FD0586.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu [10:03] stage 3 Gentoo [10:03] hi [10:03] so it's just like installing red hat, but it takes 100x as long? [10:03] oh [10:03] hi 8) [10:03] ahah [10:03] it is precompiled imagees , stage 3 i think it is called [10:04] yes, I know [10:04] I have never used it because i like Debian :) [10:04] I used gentoo for almost a year [10:04] Scooter: gentoo without the gentoo part (that is, compiling the system) === Alessio [~Alessio@host249-5.pool8251.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu [10:04] well, you still get to compile everything any time you update === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu === shock [~shockwave@134.102.56.143] has joined #ubuntu [10:05] yea, portage updates you and compiles i think... [10:05] re @ uni =) [10:06] Agrajag: other distros have source packages too. you can always update from them :) [10:06] topyli: ew [10:06] I don't get the fuss over gentoo, you can apt-get -b source anytime [10:06] heh [10:06] can we install hoary from hoary live CD? === PD [~KID@203.109.86.7] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [10:06] farruinn: well, it's a bit more complex than that, you get the whole USE flags system [10:07] but I got so damn sick of waiting for compiles to finish [10:07] Scooter: nope [10:07] Agrajag: it's better than using compiler options on debian? [10:07] and the thing about things running faster is complete BS in my opinion [10:07] topyli: it's not compiler options [10:07] Agrajag: heh, I always wonder if the performance boost outweighs the wait time [10:07] apparently not [10:07] Agrajag: oh. so what is it then? [10:07] it's deciding, per package or for the entire system, whether you want, for example, PNG support [10:08] farruinn: there is no performance boost === granted [~bibi@ca-bordeaux-8-195.w80-8.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu [10:08] almost every program is bounded by I/O, not CPU time [10:08] true [10:09] so all these ridiculous compiler flags you see gentooers using just cause instabilities and make compiles take longer === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [10:09] but whatever [10:09] Agrajag: so you can decide what you like and always use the same "flags" for all packages where they apply? [10:09] if it makes them happy =) [10:09] yes === steff [~steff@pD9FFB210.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu [10:09] Or you can choose them per-package, like if you want one media player to have MKV support but not another [10:10] it's actually pretty nice, but it's not worth it as far as I'm concerned [10:10] Agrajag: hmm. might be useful, but gentoo still seems a bit too laborious for me :) [10:10] that's a lot of admin work :\ [10:11] admin work? hah, god help you if you're running gentoo on something other than a desktop [10:11] if ubuntu could just optimize it's boot sequence... it would feel just as fast as gentoo [10:12] supposedly it's been done for hoary === bur[n] er wonders if he'll have to install from cd, or if apt will do initscript stuff [10:12] yeah I've heard that, we'll see in a couple months [10:12] it will [10:12] you could switch to hoary right now if you felt adventurous [10:13] i'll wait until gnome is stable === granted [~bibi@ca-bordeaux-8-195.w80-8.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #ubuntu [] === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu === mvo_ [~egon@ip181.135.1511I-CUD12K-01.ish.de] has joined #ubuntu [10:14] then i'll have to see how hard it is to upgrade with all the backports and my own packages. i may have to uninstall most of the system first :) === njan [~james@james.user] has joined #ubuntu [10:15] topyli: I think the report has generally been that you have to remove backports first [10:15] farruinn: yes === telemaco [~telemaco@233.Red-81-35-224.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu [10:16] farruinn: i've been lazy and using a lot of backports. when i used woody i used to make packages from unstable sources. [10:16] don't know if it's any better for upgrades though :) [10:16] can anyone recommend a text editor with tag highlighting that is curses based? [10:17] vim? [10:17] is that curses? [10:17] emacs seems a bit overkill [10:17] uhh [10:17] maybe [10:17] nano might do it if you're lazy [10:17] just make sure you alias nano to nano -w === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [10:17] otherwise it'll destroy long lines in files [10:17] vim is ncurses [10:18] nano works for me fine, but i was just hoping for something to edit php on my server [10:18] rather than ftp, change it, ftp it back [10:18] vim looks good to me [10:18] vim is awesome [10:18] now i gotta learn vi commands better :\ [10:18] does nano have syntax highllighting? methinks it doesn't [10:18] you really should learn vim, it's pretty much the standard text editor on any unix-like system [10:18] well, vim or vi [10:18] nano has no syntax highlighting :\ [10:18] oh it doesn't? [10:18] nope [10:19] never mind then, I never use it so I don't know [10:19] it's good for email but not for code === the_g_cat [~the_g_cat@ip112.168.1211H-CUD12K-02.ish.de] has left #ubuntu ["*blubber*"] [10:19] does vim have an "undo" ? [10:19] yes [10:19] press the letter "u" [10:19] escape keu then u [10:19] bur[n] er: do vimtutor, it will get you going [10:19] (mutt always pissed me off since you need fetchmail to get pop3 stuff) [10:20] bur[n] er: vim has everything, but every feature is a secret you'll have to discover :) [10:20] for sure ;) === quitte [~quitte@p54A0DFA3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu [10:20] just curious if it was worth it to start learning === digmig [~Digmig@pD9E39952.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu [10:20] i'd hate to start learning stuff to find out it's crippled by not having a feature i deperately love ;) [10:21] vi(m) is worth learning === d3vic3 [~d3vic3@dumbledore.hbd.com] has joined #ubuntu [10:21] it's installed on virtually all linux, unix etc. machines [10:21] bur[n] er: you can't go wrong with emacs or vim. they will have every feature you can dream of (although vim is just an editor and emacs is an operating system) === b_e_n_z [~Mercedes@vp201124.kln.uac68.hknet.com] has joined #ubuntu === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu === Zindar [~bagfors@114.221.181.62.in-addr.dgcsystems.net] has joined #ubuntu [10:22] and emacs even contains vim 8) [10:22] well not exactly, but viper-mode is pretty close [10:22] Agrajag: of course, the viper mode :) [10:22] Agrajag, it's on the left of the can opener, isn't it? ;) [10:22] and you can always M-x psychoanalyze zippy :) [10:23] yeah, above the email client, under the psychiatrist, behind the IRC client [10:23] now thats weird... running oversized and slow emacs withe the "great" functionality of vim *g* [10:23] EMACS: Eight Megabytes And Constantly Swapping [10:23] time is 1 2 3 [10:24] or Emacs Makes All Computers Slow :) [10:25] Escape Meta Alt Control Shift [10:25] awww [10:26] heh, I like that last one === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [10:27] it does seem a waste to run emacs for an editor only. if you use emacs, you might as well use it for everything. forget gnome! :) [10:27] I know a guy in sweden who does exactly that [10:27] runs ratpoison as a WM and has a few emacs windows open and nothing else [10:28] Agrajag: good for remote stuff too, runs in console and does everything [10:28] ERC for irc, some mpd client for music [10:28] yeah [10:29] mpd clients exist for everybody. at the very least you can use the http client === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [10:34] many games don't like esd or polypaudio. the sound is quite shitty and slow too. is there a way to configure esd better? === Adrenal [~drew@168.9.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ubuntu === Turominio [zvewlwxp2v@nat-gw.nbn.ac.za] has joined #ubuntu [10:34] Hi. I need help installing wxPython === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [10:34] It can't find gtk when I try installing from source [10:35] People have said that it can be apt-get'ed, but there's no wxPython package in the repository [10:35] Could someone help me? [10:35] Turominio: you probably don't have the gtk development packages [10:35] No, I just apt-get'ed them. No difference === syn-ack goes to sleep(); [10:36] Turominio: there seems to be libwxgtk2.4-python. is that even close? [10:36] lemme try [10:37] how can I get python 2.4? [10:37] compile myself? debian package? [10:37] Package libwxgtk2.4-python is not available, but is referred to by another package. [10:38] (response from apt-get) [10:38] hmm, but its not python2.4 [10:38] Turominio: weird. i wonder what repository gives me that package === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [10:39] Is it save to add debian to the source list? [10:39] nir: not really [10:40] Yeah, I only have archive and security (.ubuntu.com) in the source list [10:40] so the best would be to compile python? [10:40] Turominio: i even have the package installed, don't know why [10:40] nir: get hoary sources and build from there, it's easiest [10:40] can I add hoary source to my sources list? [10:41] I'm using warty [10:41] or Sid sources, doesn't matter [10:41] what would be the addresses for those? [10:41] nir: add deb-src lines, not deb :) [10:41] Turominio: hoary sources? [10:41] where I find these lines? :) [10:41] thanks for the vim tip guys :) === newcomer [~newcomer@82.201.174.29] has joined #ubuntu [10:42] or Sid. ANything that *might* have wxpython [10:42] i have found my new favorite text editor :) [10:42] vimtutor was great :) === nir uses ubuntu for 2 days === nir used macs for 20 years [10:42] hoary source repository: deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary main restricted universe multiverse [10:42] multiverse? is there an underverse, too? :P === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu === cyrus-tc [~cyrus-tc@pD9527D18.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu === AlohaWolf [alohawolf@cpe-67-49-96-168.socal.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [10:43] shock: i don't know what they can come up with next :) [10:44] multiverse i think is questionable stuff that you would get from marillat on debian [10:44] oh ok === stuff [~Rake@141.168.7.169] has joined #ubuntu [10:44] no, multiverse is just nonfree [10:44] i was referring in joke to "riddic chronicles of a warror" with underverse.... [10:44] *sigh* [10:44] Agrajag: ah [10:44] =) [10:44] you still need marillat for those things [10:44] marillat stuff seems to work fine in ubuntu === martink [~martin@pD9EB369B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu [10:45] Agrajag: just try to upgrade mplayer from marillat :( [10:45] what does marillat mean? [10:45] hah, yeah [10:45] it's the guy who runs the repo's name [10:45] TreadingSoftl1: christian marillat's multimedia repository [10:45] topyli: ah okay [10:45] topyli: What would "universe" be? I notice that my sources were not configureed with that option. [10:45] its mplayer and codecs n stuff [10:45] we all thank marillat for great repo [10:46] universe is kde, i.e [10:46] Turominio: it's everything that's in debian but not in ubuntu [10:46] universe is nonsupported but free packages [10:46] multiverse is nonsupported and nonfree [10:46] nonfree in what sense? [10:47] tsw: yes, he provides a great service for debian users. like the PLF for mandrake people [10:47] not free-as-in-speech === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [10:47] no python2.4 even with hoary [10:47] nir: try unstable [10:48] topyli: been using marillat almost as long as debian.. [10:48] w00t. It works. Just needed to uncomment the warty universe repositories. [10:48] topyli: i don't now any debian users who don't :) === ciocanel [~Alex@zamolxis.cs.unibuc.ro] has joined #ubuntu [10:49] what shuld I set in synpatic settings: expert [10:49] actually its the first tihng i manually add to all deb sources when i install for anyone [10:49] *g* [10:49] Turominio: yeah, they only enable the stuff they support by default [10:49] Another question: Am learning Python, looking for an IDE. I've found SPE, which is why I need wxPython. Has anyone tried it, or other Python IDE's? [10:49] default archive: ignore|now|wary|warty-security? === Treekill [cott789@204.51.205.68.cfl.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu === [PervertedMonk] [Monk-Lazy@137.158.87.69] has joined #ubuntu [10:50] I recommend emacs for python [10:50] <[PervertedMonk] > lo all === hazza96 [~harry@cust0531.qld01.dataco.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [10:50] nir: warty-security i guess [10:50] its great for editing python sources [10:50] Ubuntu emacs doesn't seem to be getting the syntax highlighting going [10:50] hey all [10:50] its cold here in florida [10:50] why can't I download the bittorrent of the Hoary Live CD? [10:51] ecams on ubuntu suck, vs emacs on mac os x [10:51] Treekill: so you say. it's not exactly summertime in finland either :) [10:51] lol [10:51] -15 in jyvaskyla finland [10:51] the antialiasing is not good, and the scroll wheel does not work === Hannes__ [hannes@baana-81-175-156-43.dsl.phnet.fi] has joined #ubuntu [10:51] nir: ok, so how do I go about fixing emacs? === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [10:51] you need something in your emacs config file, (global-font-lock-mode t) I think [10:51] I don't know [10:52] I only used it for few minues on ubuntu, but few years on os x === Treekill [cott789@204.51.205.68.cfl.rr.com] has left #ubuntu [] [10:52] Treekill: hell, you made me look! it's -13 centigrade [10:52] try it now, do m-x global-font-lock-mode t [10:52] see if that does it [10:52] and, how do I get it to do Python syntax highlighting (and why doesn't it come with it, given the Python-centricity of Ubuntu?) === hazza96 [~harry@cust0531.qld01.dataco.com.au] has left #ubuntu [] [10:53] you need python-mode.el [10:53] you can get it from www.python.org [10:53] <[PervertedMonk] > how good is ubuntu guys [10:53] I heard that vim has also great python support [10:53] <[PervertedMonk] > i havent used linux before [10:53] Turominio: or perhaps you haven't set up emacs to check the file type before loading, so that everything opens in fundamental-mode [10:53] if you can get use to it [10:53] I think I got that yesterday. Where do I put it? [10:54] <[PervertedMonk] > can anyone help p;z [10:54] Turominio, try to look for info in the emacswiki [10:54] [PervertedMonk] : don't ask to ask, just ask [10:54] [PervertedMonk] : maybe if you asked what the problem is? :) [10:55] <[PervertedMonk] > hehe [10:55] <[PervertedMonk] > ok [10:55] <[PervertedMonk] > well i havent used linux before [10:55] <[PervertedMonk] > just want to know if ubuntu is a good start? [10:55] yes [10:55] yes it is [10:55] <[PervertedMonk] > how so? [10:55] Just Works (TM) [10:55] <[PervertedMonk] > what about mandrake? === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [10:56] mandrake is buggy as hell [10:56] at least it was when I quit using it, 9.2 or so [10:56] [PervertedMonk] : mandrake is nice too, but if you get into trouble, it's more difficult to fix [10:56] <[PervertedMonk] > ok thanks [10:56] mandrake? why would anyone ever consider using that? :P [10:56] <[PervertedMonk] > and what programs does ubuntu come with [10:56] scizzo: i "considered" for years :) [10:56] all of them? [10:56] <[PervertedMonk] > ok awesome [10:57] <[PervertedMonk] > how do i get a copy? [10:57] why would someone even think about using anything else than a debian deritive [10:57] [PervertedMonk] : why not just try it and find out if you like it or not? [10:57] well, it installs gnome by default, but you can get pretty much everything from the universe and multiverse repositories [10:57] <[PervertedMonk] > yes scizzo [10:57] <[PervertedMonk] > i want to hey [10:57] <[PervertedMonk] > how can i get a copy [10:57] <[PervertedMonk] > jst download it i suppose? [10:57] [PervertedMonk] : www.ubuntulinux.org [10:57] yep [10:57] [PervertedMonk] : either download it from ubuntulinux.org or see if you can get a CD shipped from there [10:57] Can anybody tell me what's up with the torrent of hoary live? [10:57] [PervertedMonk] : basically, ubuntu gives you a nice gnome workstation, and you can get the rest of the world's free software over the net [10:57] I don't know if they're still shipping them out though [10:57] <[PervertedMonk] > ok thanks u guys been a great help === Hannes__ [hannes@baana-81-175-156-43.dsl.phnet.fi] has joined #ubuntu [10:58] [PervertedMonk] : I would think that you should really go to that site and read a little of what is written there [10:58] <[PervertedMonk] > ok tahnks scizzo === TiffOn [~trillian@218.Red-217-126-197.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu [10:58] hmm, I found a repeating bug with synpatic [10:58] [PervertedMonk] : I tried over 5 or 6 distros before using ubuntu [10:59] <[PervertedMonk] > and? [10:59] as soon as I set preferences:expert:default archive [10:59] <[PervertedMonk] > ubutu was your most preferable? [10:59] my pakcakage list is empty [10:59] <[PervertedMonk] > hmmm [10:59] until I delete ~root/.synpatic [10:59] <[PervertedMonk] > the the downloadpage is weirf [10:59] <[PervertedMonk] > *weird [10:59] I will say, though, after using Ubuntu for 3 days now: It requires a lot of extra stuff to become a developing environment [11:00] can anyone try this? [11:00] <[PervertedMonk] > tehre are .iso and .torrent as well? [11:00] a lot? [11:00] [PervertedMonk] : yes === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [11:00] But, it is very slick, and probably one of the most user-friendly distro's around [11:00] <[PervertedMonk] > what to do? [11:00] open synpatic [11:00] [PervertedMonk] : get the iso [11:00] go to pref [11:00] <[PervertedMonk] > ok thanks [11:00] <[PervertedMonk] > ;) [11:00] <[PervertedMonk] > soz for beiing a n00b and all [11:01] torrents are nice...but I don't know how they work just yet [11:01] newbies are cool :) [11:01] <[PervertedMonk] > hmm schizzo most of the new stuff are on torernts hey [11:02] so? [11:02] I am old fashion [11:02] <[PervertedMonk] > hehehe [11:02] <[PervertedMonk] > okies [11:02] anybody know what the name of the gnome font viewing app is, because my gnome can't find it? === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu === steff [~steff@p508EEF4D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu [11:05] TreadingSoftl1: gnome-font-viewer? ;) === twids [~twids@host81-156-20-147.range81-156.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu [11:08] hmm, nice, after I wasted hours on compling my own smp kernel, now I see that I could get it from warty-security === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [11:08] with universe === topyli [~juha@dsl-hkigw3pa5.dial.inet.fi] has left #ubuntu [] [11:09] nir: there ought to be smp kernels in main I believe [11:09] at least I learned a lot while making my own kernel [11:09] nir: we say in Finland: stupid head hurts whole body... :) [11:09] not for ppc [11:09] ag [11:09] I mean "ah" ;) [11:09] <[PervertedMonk] > is ubuntu south african made? [11:10] ag is also ok :) [11:10] [PervertedMonk] : no, it's Nigerian ;) [11:10] <[PervertedMonk] > serious? === Sav [~sav@ce02816-kristd-abk.cenara.com] has joined #ubuntu [11:10] <[PervertedMonk] > kewl [11:10] it's not either, although the guy funding it is south african [11:10] this sources list should be simpler [11:11] <[PervertedMonk] > ok ok thanks ;) === zeedo [~notroot@www.bsrf.org.uk] has joined #ubuntu [11:11] it's made from only the finest natural debian ;) === smurfslayer is now known as smurfslay === EvolutionR [~Username@219.95.219.196] has joined #ubuntu [11:11] Hi, just a quick printing question, when the printer is detected (by hotplug?) should cups be restarted? It doesn't seem to detect it otherwise. [11:11] like a check box in synpatic [ ] Include unstable pakcages [11:12] twids - check /var/log/syslog [11:12] twids: you need to set it up in the printer manager [11:12] With a hellp line [11:12] twids: administration->printing [11:12] "If you don't find what you are looking for, try to enabble, note that ...etc" === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu === nir booting with new smp kernel........... [11:15] Some more info, if I turn the printer on before booting it appears in "Add a printer --> use detected printer" list box, otherwise if I turn it on while ubunty is running is shows up in dmesg but not the listbox === hikaru79 [~hikaru79@d57-4-59.home.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu [11:15] But it does show up if I restart cups === carlos [~carlos@69.Red-80-33-181.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu [11:16] i cant leave my laptop running during the night. It freezes and the fans goes crazy after like 3-4 hours idle. Any ideas? === ^^benz^^ [~benz@vp201124.kln.uac68.hknet.com] has joined #ubuntu === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu === b_e_n_z [~Mercedes@vp201124.kln.uac68.hknet.com] has left #ubuntu ["Spammers] === quazion__ [~quazion@bsm-c-5628.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu === b_e_n_z [~benz@vp201124.kln.uac68.hknet.com] has joined #ubuntu [11:20] how to upgrade warthy to hoary? [11:21] add hoary to sources.list [11:21] apt-get update [11:21] apt-get dist-upgrade [11:21] pray === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [11:22] shock: how to add hoary to sources.list? [11:23] u got the warty sources in there, right? [11:23] shock: yes [11:23] default [11:23] just edit /etc/apt/sources.list and replace warty with hoary [11:23] :) === Emanuelez [Emanuelez@adsl-ull-207-103.42-151.net24.it] has joined #ubuntu [11:24] hello * :) === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [11:25] whats better with horay? [11:26] deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 4.10 _Warty Warthog_ - Preview i386 Binary-1 (20041020)] / unstable main restricted [11:26] do I need to change that line to hoary hedgehog too? === shock [~shockwave@134.102.56.143] has joined #ubuntu === julien_ [~julien@lns-vlq-39f-81-56-139-56.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu [11:27] hi [11:27] Is anyone running today's Hoary ? [11:27] I noticed that gamin seems to be totally borked today. Am I the only one to see it ? [11:27] yes [11:27] gamin? [11:27] hm === FireEgl [Ariel@Ariel.Atlantica.US] has joined #Ubuntu [11:27] i noticed evolution being totally *******ed === bradb [~bradb@p188.h-yulrz01.stsn.com] has joined #ubuntu === nir [~nir@line134-51.adsl.actcom.co.il] has joined #ubuntu === LnxGnome [~hne@hopnet.net] has joined #ubuntu [11:28] what is the place to compile python? /usr/local/src? [11:28] scsi anyone? [11:29] shock: Please try to put a file in your trashcan, and tell me if the file disappears from Nautilus. === bj_ [~bj@ool-4352a84b.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu [11:29] yes === evil-dna [~evil@d158.dhcp212-198-49.noos.fr] has joined #ubuntu [11:29] it usually does === housetier [~housetier@dsl-084-056-144-026.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu [11:29] unless i somehow killed or mangled the famd [11:30] famd ? Don't you use gamin instead of fam ? === BenZor|Lap [~bnurmi_la@CPE-141-168-11-101.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [11:31] hm [11:31] shock: looks like you hadnt ubuntu-desktop installed on upgrade [11:31] unless it got replaced lately [11:31] In hoary, gamin replaced fam. [11:31] And it s**cks big time :) [11:31] hrhr [11:31] so? fam sucked too [11:31] lol, you're right :) [11:32] julien_: gamin works great on all my machines... [11:32] Hi folks, does anyone have a vmlinuz with scsi compiled in, or a initrd.gz with scsi_mod that I can netboot from? I'm trying to do a new netinst (boot from the net too) but the default kernel is missing the scsi bits. libata (nor any other sata/scsi) will not load. [11:32] Just not for the same reasons. [11:32] julien_: did you file bugs ? [11:32] ogra: yes, I filed lots of bugs. Some have been fixed since, some not. [11:32] ah, great :) [11:33] ogra: but today, all the bugs I filed seem to be back... [11:33] hello [11:33] ogra: for gamlin, that is. === pitti [~martin@box79162.elkhouse.de] has joined #ubuntu [11:33] julien_: hmm... [11:33] hi evil-dna [11:33] i cannot boot from ubuntu discs [11:33] i get a grub error 21 or something [11:33] anyone knows about it? === EvolutionR [~Username@219.95.219.196] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [11:34] ogra: I know that Jeff wanted to temporarily remove inotify support from gamin, so maybe it's the cause of all the problems I get nowadays. [11:34] i thought about replacing grub by lilo and building a new iso [11:34] anyone tried it? === martink [~martin@pD9EB369B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu [11:34] julien_: that might be... my update from yesterday didnt break anything though.... === svenl [~luther@AStrasbourg-251-1-54-201.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu [11:35] ubuntu live cd uses eltorito right? [11:37] is there an au mirror for updates? [11:38] and how to I add it to the list (i forgot) :( [11:40] is anyone out there using ubuntu on sata or scsi drives? === pitti_ [~martin@box79162.elkhouse.de] has joined #ubuntu === d3vic3 [~d3vic3@dumbledore.hbd.com] has joined #ubuntu [11:42] ogra: I asked Sebastien Bacher about the gamin problem, and inotify removal is indeed the culprit. An updated gamin will be available soon. === HetIsLarsje [~ljansen@dyn027215.nbw.tue.nl] has left #ubuntu [] === twids [~twids@host81-156-20-147.range81-156.btcentralplus.com] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === Lnx|Lapp [~Lappy@128.39.80.129] has joined #ubuntu === ditCh [ditch@2001:960:612:0:0:0:0:26] has joined #ubuntu === bob2 [rob@202.174.101.196] has joined #ubuntu === mdz [~mdz@69.167.148.207] has joined #ubuntu === BeTa [~beta@2001:7a8:6d43:1:230:1bff:feb1:defa] has joined #ubuntu === xtat [xtat@69.55.227.50] has joined #ubuntu === SteveA [~steve@213.190.44.43] has joined #ubuntu === beezly [~andy@2001:618:400:9627:20c:6eff:fee1:a9da] has joined #ubuntu === FireEgl [Ariel@Atlantica.US] has joined #Ubuntu === acidmaxd [~acidmax@ubuntu.jambolnet.com] has joined #ubuntu === smurfslay is now known as smurfslayer [11:54] how do you make tapping the trackpad register as a click? [11:54] i donno [11:55] must be something in your X config file [11:55] i have a bug on my gentoo, it registers as a double click :S [11:55] wine doesn'T sutomatically setup my cdrom drive for some reason === linux-rulz [~linux-rul@S0106000c6ec62859.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu [11:56] so noone ever had a grub error with ubuntu discs? [11:56] u R lucky === nir_ [~nir@line134-51.adsl.actcom.co.il] has joined #ubuntu [11:56] evil-dna: haven't gotten that far through the install yet ;) [11:56] ansone here using hoary and evolution? [11:56] evil-dna: nope === Nominus [~hanzo@2001:c20:ffff:2b:0:0:0:1541] has joined #ubuntu [11:59] I have both gcc 3.3 and 3.4 [11:59] I see that 3.3 is the default === saif [~saif@213.186.183.70] has joined #ubuntu [11:59] why? [11:59] hi === mz2 [~mz@81-1-73-144.homechoice.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu === Kaloz [~kaloz@arrakis.dune.hu] has joined #ubuntu [12:02] nir_: WAG 3.3 is more stable? === Alessio [~Alessio@host249-5.pool8251.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu [12:03] Lnx|Lapp, havent gotten that far? are you mocking me? [12:03] err that wasnt you [12:03] i just downloaded a .deb package [12:03] does ubuntu usually have an entry for cdrom in fstab? [12:04] how do i install it?? i tried running dpkg -i filename [12:04] well just to let you know.. on my box booting from an ubuntu disc just displays an error message [12:04] i have 2 entries for my cdrom drives in fstab...why, dont u? [12:04] and it gives me a dependency problem, so i get the pckage they requested in the dependency and i try dpkg -i 2nd file [12:05] linux-rulz i switched from debian and didn'T go through the ubuntu installer. [12:05] then it tells me that there is a dependency problem, and that it needs the first file!! [12:05] linux-rulz: and gnome-volume-manager doesn'T need those entries [12:05] quitte: u managed to do that? i tried and broke my system at one point, so i just reinstalled with the Ubuntu installer === magiccheese [~preston@ip68-107-185-118.lu.dl.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:06] linux-rulz no trouble at all. apt-get dist-upgrade moved me flawlessly to hoary [12:06] any1 has ideas how to install those files? [12:06] i installed the ati control panel how would i acsess that [12:06] linux-rulz i had some trouble later - but as far as i can tell i would have had that with hoary alone,too [12:07] linux-rulz for example installing package gnome is just impossible [12:08] linux-rulz i'm now installing ubuntu-* packages. seems to work. but connection is slow today === wezzer [~antti@a80-186-62-122.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu [12:09] does anyone use the Control panel for the ATI Radeon and FireGL graphics accelerators. [12:09] linux-rulz: can you show me your cdrom lines in fstab? [12:09] i just installed it via synaptic [12:10] where can i find ubuntu mirrors? [12:10] 10kb/s is unacceptable [12:11] Hi guys, I want to mount a drive as smbfs, do I need all samba software for that? === nir_ is now known as nir [12:12] <[PervertedMonk] > hey i registered to receive an ubuntu cd [12:12] <[PervertedMonk] > how long does it take ?: === merhojt [~merhojt@h67n2fls35o989.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:13] [PervertedMonk] : you would get the iso before the CD [12:13] [PervertedMonk] : that is one of the FAQs which are on the same page you used to login to request CDs [12:13] [PervertedMonk] : it says before october on the page [12:13] http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/shipit/ === FireEgl [Ariel@Atlantica.US] has joined #Ubuntu === markuman_ [~markuman@pD9E4C73A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu === MrTrick [~MrTrick@c220-237-102-182.carlnfd3.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu === nir [~nir@line134-51.adsl.actcom.co.il] has joined #ubuntu [12:15] <[PervertedMonk] > okies thanks guys === SeFoKumA [~zienaga@27.Red-81-44-123.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:16] uhoh... I broke something. [12:17] When I try to run xmms, I get this error message (it used to work) [12:17] libmikmod.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [12:17] Inconsistency detected by ld.so: ../sysdeps/generic/dl-tls.c: 72: _dl_next_tls_modid: Assertion `result <= _rtld_local._dl_tls_max_dtv_idx' failed! === Cturtle [~Cturtle__@a213-84-50-38.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu === Cturtle_ [~Cturtle__@a213-84-50-38.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu [12:18] quitte: hey, i was out of the room, but yah, ill put them in pastebin and send the link [12:19] http://www.pastebin.com/234485 [12:20] No idea what it means... === donncha [~donncha@mail.tradesignals.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:20] can someone give me a hand [12:21] what can you tell me about OpenGL Overlay and Dual Head Configuration [12:21] im configuring my card [12:22] anyone? [12:25] man I am annoyed by evolution! 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[12:34] ciocanel: Desktop --> Preferences --> Background === thux [~thux@dsl-sjkgw2j1a.dial.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu === njan [~james@james.user] has joined #ubuntu [12:36] no0tic: Nope, it's not working. [12:36] Hi, is it true that Ubuntu support atheros wlan cards directly without any special parts (madwifi) ? === FireEgl [Ariel@Atlantica.US] has joined #Ubuntu === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [12:37] thux, atheros drivers are in the linux-restricted-modules packages (or something like that, I don't recall exactly) [12:37] mjr but they are included to ubuntu, just install apt-get or so? [12:38] they were automatically installed for me === magiccheese [~preston@ip68-107-185-118.lu.dl.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:38] mjr thanks I'm gonna install ubuntu now :) [12:38] hey guys, im a noob linux idiot and i broke ubuntu (xserver), can I get a hand? [12:38] what command do i use to see agp settings === thux [~thux@dsl-sjkgw2j1a.dial.inet.fi] has left #ubuntu [] [12:39] whats up stuff [12:39] stuff how did you break it [12:39] ? [12:39] Got the powerpc ver of ubuntu to chuck on a g3 ibook i was given [12:39] playing with it a bit, pressed power button, black screen with flashing _ ... restarted and now x-server wont start === mjr guesses that the restricted part would be because of included firmware, but hasn't bothered to check [12:40] "I cannot start the X server (your graphical interface). It is likely that it is not set up correctly." [12:40] stuff hmm. sounds like a power management problem. tried rebooting? [12:40] numerous times, same thing. [12:40] had a look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log? [12:40] how do I open it === VivekVC [~vivek@202.83.40.248] has joined #Ubuntu === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [12:41] im logged in on a terminal screen (?) [12:41] stuff with more or less or cat or any text editor === [m0rph] [~morph@p83.129.195.69.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #ubuntu === d3vic3 [~d3vic3@dumbledore.hbd.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:41] no such file or directory (/var/log/Xorg.0.log) [12:41] oh. [12:42] stuff of course [12:42] hmm? [12:42] stuff XFree86.0.log instead [12:42] blah [12:42] bleh [12:42] bluh [12:42] bout 10 pages of junk scrolled a little faster than i could read. === warty [unlucky@titanas.parok.lt] has joined #ubuntu [12:42] I am new to Ubuntu and i would like to set up an apache2 server on it. I find 2 files apache.conf and httpd.conf. Which of these 2 configuration files should i edit. Under Red Hat its the httpd.conf file where we set the servername, server admin email [12:43] stuff: try "less /var/log/XFree86.0.log" [12:43] stuff at the end of that junk - there should be a reeason why it failed [12:43] Ok, I'll have a quick glance over it, brb [12:44] anyone here familiar with ati cards and the whole agp setup [12:44] magiccheese: sort of [12:44] Xlib: extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0". [12:44] 1409 frames in 5.0 seconds = 281.800 FPS [12:44] 1695 frames in 5.0 seconds = 339.000 FPS [12:44] 1582 frames in 5.0 seconds = 316.400 FPS [12:44] 1695 frames in 5.0 seconds = 339.000 FPS [12:44] 1582 frames in 5.0 seconds = 316.400 FPS [12:44] 1695 frames in 5.0 seconds = 339.000 FPS [12:44] 1582 frames in 5.0 seconds = 316.400 FPS [12:44] 1582 frames in 5.0 seconds = 316.400 FPS [12:44] 1582 frames in 5.0 seconds = 316.400 FPS === Pluk [~Pluk@dD5763964.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu [12:44] magiccheese: you can stop now, thanks [12:44] this is what im getting with my 9600 xt [12:45] sorry didnt realize i copyed so much === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [12:45] magiccheese: apt-get install linux-restricted-modules [12:45] hmm === Nafallo [nafallo@h123n3c1o1027.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:45] I wonder if I'll still get GLX lockups [12:45] probably :/ [12:45] magiccheese: warty or hoary? [12:45] warty [12:46] " [12:46] i used synaptic to install ati driver and controler [12:46] ok [12:46] "Fatal Server Error: failed to initialize core drivers" .. i was trying to follow this guide here - http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=14604#post14604 , could that have screwed with it? [12:46] magiccheese: gnow, fglrxconfig to configure XFree86 [12:47] stuff mouse not working? [12:47] magiccheese: save it on another file and then copy to the right one only the Section about ATI card [12:47] Wanted to configure iBook touchpad to register a tap as a click. [12:47] stuff- get a real nick [12:47] sorry. [12:48] :p === stuff is now known as Rake === Rake is now known as stuff [12:48] nick taken. [12:48] stuff aha. that'S your problem then. dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [12:48] Rake` [12:48] TheRake [12:48] RakeZor [12:48] shh. === hno73 [~Henrik@henrik.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [12:48] save what nootic [12:49] "must be run as root" [12:49] stuff so run it as root [12:49] how. [12:49] stuff sudo dpkg.... === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [12:49] aha. === jbailey [~jbailey@CPE000ded9d787c-CM014260028338.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu === quitte stars to love ubuntu [12:50] magiccheese: run fglrxconfig and save the file in another name or dir [12:50] i didn't realize users didn'T know how to become root by default :) [12:50] how did stuff manage to break his xserver then? [12:50] ok [12:50] trying to screw with mouse settings, heh :( [12:50] stuff without root permissions? [12:50] now this xserver config wants to know what drivers to use howeever im not sure on what it needs for an iBook [12:51] was following guide i googled up: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=14604#post14604 [12:51] stuff dont know. i'D guess it'S a ati radeon [12:52] radeon 750 [12:52] righto === trilly [~trilly@p3E9EDA06.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu === kbrooks [~kyle@CPE0050ba557516-CM000039d12a5d.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [12:55] morning [12:55] afternoon === njan [~james@62-249-201-66.adsl.entanet.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [12:55] MM2: where you at? [12:55] gmt +2 [12:56] australia? [12:56] anyone had grub error 21 when trying to boot an ubuntu disc? === involved [~x@83.132.87.162] has joined #ubuntu [12:56] stuNNed: finland that is [12:57] MM2: ah, hi in finland :) [12:57] hi. Are there mirrors for the software update? i mean.. like in debian.. those in sources.list.. Portugal to be precise :) === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu === FireEgl [Ariel@Atlantica.US] has joined #Ubuntu === stone__ [~stone@c-67-184-135-68.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu === G2 [~ghenry@193.195.148.66] has joined #ubuntu === Pozac [~Tabersvin@0x535ca783.esnxx5.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu [01:03] in dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 i get to a thing asking whether or not to write the default DRI section to the config file. I go yes as per its reccomendation and then it just goes to the terminal screen again. tried rebooting, xserver still doesn't work? === ditCh_ [ditch@drunk.ditch.be] has joined #ubuntu [01:03] (ive been leaving things as defaults) === netjoined: irc.freenode.net -> kornbluth.freenode.net === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu === beezly [~andy@2001:618:400:9627:20c:6eff:fee1:a9da] has joined #ubuntu === ditCh_ is now known as ditCh === mdz [~mdz@69-167-148-207.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu === xtat [xtat@io.rapidpacket.com] has joined #ubuntu === BeTa [~beta@2001:7a8:6d43:1:230:1bff:feb1:defa] has joined #ubuntu === bob2 [rob@bob2.user] has joined #ubuntu [01:05] stuff, reconfigure it. === aethyr [~aethyr@dyn006612-twr2-student.cpmc.columbia.edu] has joined #ubuntu === Se7h [~MUAHAHAH@adsl-b4-91-44.telepac.pt] has joined #ubuntu === pAntZ [~pAntZ@64.18.178.21] has joined #ubuntu [01:06] uh? thats what im trying to do? [01:06] stuff i'd bet you selected the wron mouse type [01:06] it gets past that part though. === SteveA [~steve@213.226.190.80] has joined #ubuntu [01:06] hmm. === Nominus [~hanzo@2001:c20:ffff:2b:0:0:0:1541] has joined #ubuntu [01:06] stuff doesnt mean anything [01:07] what mouse port do i use for a trackpad then. [01:07] stuff, ps/2, usually [01:07] theres psaux at the top. === sky__ [~sky@longchamp44-2-82-67-135-181.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:08] every trackpad in a laptop I've ever used has been seen as a ps/2 device [01:08] is there a way to configure the wm from command line? === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [01:08] or a file i can change? [01:08] stuNNed, configure it to do what? === null [~null@60-240-148-75.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [01:08] stuNNed, and do you mean X, or the window manager? [01:08] njan: change the window manager from command line [01:09] njan: not x, the window manager [01:09] stuNNed, in gnome, the window manager is *probably* stored in an editable file somewhere, but don't quote me on that [01:09] a little grepping and googling is in order [01:09] my guess is it'd be a gconf setting somewhere [01:09] but it is just a guess. [01:09] njan: ok thanks [01:09] james@anubis ~/.gconf $ grep metacity * -r [01:09] desktop/gnome/applications/window_manager/%gconf.xml: /usr/bin/metacity === cprov [~cprov@200.158.100.251] has joined #ubuntu [01:10] stuNNed, that might be where you want to start looking ;) [01:10] did someone look at the address stuff pasted? i wonder if he just change the config of x or if he fucked up x seriously [01:10] only the config as far as im aware? === netjoined: irc.freenode.net -> kornbluth.freenode.net === aethyr [~aethyr@dyn006612-twr2-student.cpmc.columbia.edu] has joined #ubuntu === Se7h [~MUAHAHAH@adsl-b4-91-44.telepac.pt] has joined #ubuntu === pAntZ [~pAntZ@64.18.178.21] has joined #ubuntu [01:10] (not that i know much) === jpedrosa [~jpedrosa@201009182218.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu [01:11] stuff ok then. dpkg-reonfigure should fix it then when you give the correct answers [01:12] njan: think that's the file that controls it? :D === isaac [~isaac@adsl-67-112-24-57.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu === cef [~cef@c211-28-9-44.thoms1.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu === marcin_ant [~marcin@www.e-dev.tele2.pl] has joined #ubuntu [01:12] anyone using wine can help me? when i switches to fullscreen mode and changes resolution i still have gnome bars at the bottom and top [01:14] how do i know / find out how to configure xserver for an ibook correctly then. === erGoline [~erGoline@host118-173.pool8250.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu [01:15] stuff lspci tells you your video card [01:15] stuff but i guess the problem is the mouse === erGoline [~erGoline@host118-173.pool8250.interbusiness.it] has left #ubuntu ["Haloa"] [01:16] stuff no idea what mous an ibook has [01:16] yeh. [01:16] stuff maybe it's ps2 connected to psaux [01:16] I tried telling it that in the config, restart, no go. [01:16] stuff got an usb mouse? [01:16] yer [01:16] how does the installer determine all of this stuff? :/ === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [01:17] stuff plug it in. and use input/mice as device. type is imps/2 [01:17] stuff i dont know. never used it [01:18] /dev/psaux, ttys0, ttys1, ttys2, ttys3, input/mice, atibm, sunmouse, gpmdata [01:18] ok [01:19] stuff input/mice [01:19] how do i try run the server manually === tiisetjo [~tiisetjo@dumbledore.hbd.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:19] X, or xinit,or startx [01:20] hi === smo_ [~soneil@smo.active.supporter.pdpc] has joined #ubuntu [01:20] xinit worked, and it spat out errors, definitly a mouse prob, woops. [01:20] hmmm. command and conquer switches to fullscreen properly - while monkey4 and properly grimfandango dont :( === FireEgl [Ariel@2001:5c0:84dc:2:0:0:0:0] has joined #Ubuntu === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [01:21] im back nootik [01:21] excuse me nootic [01:21] whats the command / prog to edit a config file at a terminal screen. === smo_ is now known as smo [01:22] i might try going thru this guide and reversing what I did [01:22] stuff that would be an editor. dont know what ubuntu has by default. try joe, or nano [01:22] stuff reversing is too late [01:22] ..well nothing else has worked so far. === stuff shrug [01:22] what does the log file say now? [01:23] holdon === odo [odo@kapsi.fi] has joined #ubuntu [01:24] the reconfig wasnt getting rid of some additions. [01:25] ok then edit it manually === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu === Garathor [~Unknown@213-145-178-167.dd.nextgentel.com] has joined #Ubuntu === kkj [~kkj@cpe.atm2-0-1091124.0xc2ef0712.arcnxx14.customer.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu [01:27] Ok, edited config, saved, xinit, and now ive got a very crude GUI. [01:27] terminal screen taking up 1/4 of screen, (top left), and the rest is just shaded black. [01:27] (alternating white/black pixels diagnol fashion) === Cturtle [~Cturtle__@a213-84-50-38.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [01:29] what command do i use to see my agp settings === Dddddave [~dave@056.049.dsl.syd.iprimus.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [01:32] I'm not sure there is a consistent interface for showing that [01:32] is it an nvidia card? [01:32] (magiccheese, that is) [01:32] stuff good works now. restart gdm [01:33] stuff ctrl-alt-backspace [01:33] just rebooted [01:33] stuff ok should work now? [01:33] hurrraah! === cafuego_ [~cafuego@macchiato.cc.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [01:33] it works. now, what do you know about trackpads :p === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [01:34] stuff nothing. i love my trackpoint. and wouldn' want a pad instead [01:34] sorry im back its ati [01:34] but having it click on touch was great [01:34] stuff: synaptics touchpad - I'm with quitte, but I hear it's fully supported [01:34] thats kindof what i was trying to mess about with [01:34] magiccheese: not sure then I'm afraid. possibly the X log will show it [01:34] iBook touchpad thing, i just want it to be able to recognise tapping it as a click [01:35] Pozac know anything abou making ouch to click work? === Dddddave [~dave@056.049.dsl.syd.iprimus.net.au] has left #ubuntu [] [01:35] quitte: I've just found out about the EmulateWheel thing for the trackpoint :) so sweet [01:35] Pozac url? gimme gimme [01:35] quitte: there's a sweet driver in the works [01:36] Pozac what do you do to "wheel"? [01:36] for now you can choose to emulate the wheel by btn2+point [01:36] btn2 doesnt send btn2-click tho [01:36] hello - I would like to ask about website competition - are there any previews of projects that already submitted? [01:36] Pozac bah. nothing for me then [01:37] quitte: there's still the ol' Emulate3Buttons, so you can have btn2-click back :) === ajmitch [~ajmitch@chc11-port93.jetstart.maxnet.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu [01:37] Pozac: unless it was combined with tapping, so btn 1 could be used for wheeling === netjoined: irc.freenode.net -> kornbluth.freenode.net === cef [~cef@c211-28-9-44.thoms1.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu === aethyr [~aethyr@dyn006612-twr2-student.cpmc.columbia.edu] has joined #ubuntu === Se7h [~MUAHAHAH@adsl-b4-91-44.telepac.pt] has joined #ubuntu === pAntZ [~pAntZ@64.18.178.21] has joined #ubuntu === theine [~theine@x1-6-00-0c-41-7e-f9-af.k200.webspeed.dk] has joined #ubuntu === theine [~theine@x1-6-00-0c-41-7e-f9-af.k200.webspeed.dk] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [01:38] quitte: btn 1 can be used, and I'm quite sure you can tap it too === Pozac googles [01:38] I'm on an X21, so my point doesnt click === martyr [~mriedel@p54815106.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu === Adrenal [~drew@168.9.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ubuntu === setite [~setite@ip68-108-159-134.lv.lv.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:40] anyone here have sucsess with a ati card [01:40] does anyone know how to get videos to play in firefox [01:40] i think they are WM videos [01:40] yeh [01:41] go to synpantic [01:41] quitte: 'Just add "psmouse.proto=imps" to the grub boot options' <- from googling [01:41] type in mozilla in search [01:41] install mozilla-mplayer [01:41] restart firefox [01:41] worked for me [01:41] Pozac sweet [01:41] theres a howto is if doesn't, i;ll grab that for you now [01:41] quitte: maybe set the procotol to IMPS/2 in xorg.conf/XF86Config [01:42] setite: u using a pentium or an athlon? [01:43] magiccheese: "ati card" covers quite a lot of different hardware with different levels of support [01:43] setite? [01:43] I have had success with a Radeon 8500 [01:43] to be specific its a ati9600xt [01:43] dri.sourceforge.net has support for a lot of older (<9800 ?) ati cards [01:43] Pozac as i'm loading it as a module i won'T even have to reboot:) wouldn'T help anyways [01:44] I think 9600 is an R300 variant [01:44] the DRI page has a guide I think [01:44] quitte :) [01:44] i installed drivers and notice no diff in glxgears [01:44] magiccheese: [01:44] i dont know if the agp setup is working [01:44] magiccheese: I was at lunch [01:44] mmm lunch [01:44] hey welcome back [01:45] lunch? [01:45] its quarter to midnight [01:45] ...weirdo [01:45] 1:45:08 PM [01:45] magiccheese: did you change your XF86Config? [01:45] Adrenal: ;) [01:45] or use fglrxconfig === netjoined: irc.freenode.net -> kornbluth.freenode.net === xtat [xtat@io.rapidpacket.com] has joined #ubuntu === WildRabbit [~WildRabbi@adsl7-69.simnet.is] has joined #ubuntu [01:45] http://www.timecube.com/ [01:45] 7:45 am here [01:45] check and mate [01:46] yeah to the new ones [01:46] anyone else read sisya's post? [01:46] no? [01:46] nope [01:46] Pozac modprobe psmouse proto=imps didn't work === MacPlusG3 [~stewart@c211-28-166-127.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu === bob2 [rob@bob2.user] has joined #ubuntu [01:47] magiccheese: if you do 'lsmod' do you see the fglrx module? [01:47] just paid out linux, and the open source community === vtg [vertigo@2001:888:11a7:0:260:8ff:fec9:effb] has joined #ubuntu === telemaco [~telemaco@79.Red-81-35-227.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:48] quitte: I think you need to restart X and tell it about the imps/2 thing too === beezly [~andy@2001:618:400:9627:20c:6eff:fee1:a9da] has joined #ubuntu [01:48] Pozac no - didn'T help [01:48] quitte :( === null [~null@60-240-148-75.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [01:49] Adrenal: I'm not getting what you are talking about... [01:49] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=57809#post57809 [01:49] on one of the under which one === linux-rulz [~linux-rul@S0106000c6ec62859.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:50] sory ex which one? === Ycros [~Ycros@211.30.18.47] has joined #ubuntu === da_bon_bon [~rohandhru@210.18.160.134] has joined #ubuntu === NetwrkMonkey [~Monkey@netwrkmonkey.user] has joined #ubuntu === BeTa [~beta@beta.loc.e-glop.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:51] Adrenal: Eh, is he supposed to be somebody? [01:51] some n00b [01:51] a ms whore === Pozac doesnt care for people whining about this community without reading ubuntu.com [01:51] exactly [01:51] he has wiki [01:51] ubuntuguide [01:51] and google [01:51] no right to bitch === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [01:52] anyone else having troubles with msn right now? [01:52] hm [01:52] blah [01:52] i cant even boot the live-cd [01:53] passwords sends, but msn doesn't pick up === ^majik^ [~majik@68.119.96.36] has joined #Ubuntu [01:53] ...maybe they noticed my anti-ms propagande [01:53] Adrenal: Also the first place linked to go to for help is here. He wasnt here. [01:53] ah well...JABBER TIME [01:53] i know, i was the one who linked him [01:53] evil-dna: the new one? [01:53] it seemed like he was a bit pissed at the responses he gets but oh well === ^majik^ [~majik@68.119.96.36] has left #Ubuntu [] === antec_ [~antec@61.68.239.231] has joined #ubuntu === ^majik^ [~majik@68.119.96.36] has joined #Ubuntu === Monkey-Dude [~Monkey-Du@D40AE932.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #ubuntu === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [01:56] hi.... i'm having trouble with mounting an ntfs drive... i have 3 ntfs partitions but 1 will not mount... === theine [~theine@x1-6-00-0c-41-7e-f9-af.k200.webspeed.dk] has joined #ubuntu [01:57] specs? [01:57] hmmm, glxinfo says ``direct rendering: No'' all of the sudden. what could be the reason for that? [01:58] brb guys [01:58] theine: kernel change? [01:59] Ex-Cyber: yes === ephic [~ephic@68.184.7.52] has joined #ubuntu [01:59] hey how does the dpkg command work? === FireEgl [Ariel@Atlantica.US] has joined #Ubuntu [01:59] man dpkg [01:59] theine: are you using proprietary drivers? (ati/nvidia)? [01:59] im trying to configure mozilla to recognize my java [01:59] Ex-Cyber: no, it's all there I think [01:59] anyone had that problem with sun's jre? [02:00] ephic read the info in www.ubuntuguide.org [02:00] Ex-Cyber: I'm using the open-source raderon drivers anyway [02:00] theine: I'm not sure what you mean [02:00] alright. [02:00] is there a downloadable document? === LaurenceR|home is now known as LaurenceRowe [02:00] works great === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [02:00] Ex-Cyber: oh sorry, i read ``missing'' instead of ``using'' [02:01] ephic theres only a few commands === Adrenal [~drew@168.9.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [02:01] theine: sometimes new kernels break the proprietary drivers [02:02] damm i am tired of the cold [02:02] Ex-Cyber: wait a minute, now i remember, I have to un-install xorg-driver-fglrx [02:04] is there a way to put a program to be run on gnome startup for every user? === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu === digmig [~Digmig@pD9E39952.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu === Hwolf [~hidde@136.122.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:05] whoa === Nominus [~hanzo@2001:5c0:8fff:fffe:0:0:0:1175] has joined #ubuntu [02:05] its like a hundred connections cried out in pain === bob2 [rob@bob2.user] has joined #ubuntu === Ribs [~freenode@riblet.plus.com] has joined #ubuntu === johane [~johan@h212n7c1o255.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu === MornHyland [julia@morn.mornhyland.org] has joined #ubuntu === maddoc [~maddoc@h228n2fls311o871.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu === siretart [siretart@tauware.de] has joined #ubuntu === AcidPils [~acid@websrv.werbeagentur-aufwind.de] has joined #ubuntu === marcus| [~marcus@as17-3-4.hkn.g.bonet.se] has joined #ubuntu [02:05] but were then suddenly silenced === MrNaughty [MrNaughty@d199-126-25-30.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu === isaac_ [~isaac@adsl-67-112-24-57.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:06] ?? [02:06] Adrenal that was a netsplit. that happens regularly on freenode and is nothing to worry about [02:06] but...i'm scared [02:07] Adrenal you dont have to [02:07] :) === dutch [~dutch@cpe-024-211-215-161.nc.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [02:08] alot fewer splits in here then many other networks [02:08] must be the ircd === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [02:09] well, see ya all later === TheMuso_ [~luke@dsl-202-173-132-131.nsw.westnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [02:09] ok later Adrenal [02:09] ugh. The ubuntu servers are slow... :-S [02:09] seems Adrenal is hiding from further splits [02:09] I have a little bit of problem === stack [~stack@modemcable211.10-201-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu [02:09] If I mount usb-stick as a admin user, it gets mounted all right [02:09] Hwolf heh. look at the ubuntu page. mirrors exist. [02:10] When I put it in as a regulas user, it won't get mounted [02:10] quitte, untill 2 days ago, the ubuntu.com servers maxed out my connection. [02:10] What setting I should stab? [02:10] Hwolf until yesterday here. [02:11] MM2: Nothing should be done manually except physically inserting the device. [02:11] quitte, at this moment I'm pulling 10kbs, barely === Pozac dittos the 10kbs [02:12] use mirrors. [02:13] quitte, for apt? I can find mirrors for the iso's on the ubuntu.com site alright... [02:13] Pozac: it won't work like that === stack is now known as BOBbinette [02:13] Hwolf yes for apt === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [02:13] Pozac: usb stick lights up, but it won't get (auto)mounted at all === steff [~steff@p508EEF4D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu === hypn0 [~chatzilla@host81-7-54-228.surfport24.v21.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu === Badcel [~Badcel@p5086F38B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu [02:14] Hwolf: www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Archive/view?searchterm=mirrors === da_bon_bon [~rohandhru@210.18.160.134] has joined #ubuntu === trygvebw [trygvebw@217-190-59.adsl.tele2.no] has joined #ubuntu === Ferry [~ferry@cust.15.118.adsl.cistron.nl] has joined #ubuntu [02:16] where there is configured which users can mount/umount a usb filesystem? [02:16] where do you change the apt mirrors? [02:16] MM2 man pmount [02:17] MM2 basically users have to be in group plugdev for gnome-volume-manager to work. === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [02:17] where i can change transparancy theme? [02:17] hey ok lets see.. im trying to get mozilla to pick up on my javascript right? [02:18] ephic no luck? [02:18] well... then there is a serious trouble... users are all in same group called "domain users"... [02:18] ln -s /usr/java/plugin/i386/ns7/ (-f to force overwrite) [02:18] no luck. [02:18] any ideas? [02:18] did you d/l the java bin [02:18] wheres sources.list kept? [02:18] er wait java bin? [02:19] yeah 1 sec [02:19] k === haha [~haha@211.237.240.39] has joined #ubuntu [02:19] https://sdlcweb1c.sun.com/ECom/EComActionServlet;jsessionid=06207F54E566FA1D4F7F8E70AF172251 [02:19] that should get you the correct one [02:20] ah ok thanks === qbeek [~qbeek@sete.idealx.com] has joined #ubuntu [02:20] can i set that up at a repository? [02:20] is it normal that no icons for devices appear on the desktop, but devices are still mounted and unmounted automatically? [02:20] BenZor|Lap: /etc/apt [02:20] thought so [02:20] so just add [02:20] you require the linux self extracting [02:20] deb http://www.planetmirror.com/pub/ubuntu/ warty main universe [02:20] ? [02:20] universe will give stuff like amsn etc right [02:20] and then just follow the directions in the guide [02:21] alrighty [02:21] thanks [02:21] anytime === FireEgl [Ariel@Atlantica.US] has joined #Ubuntu === leonel [~leonel@201.128.131.56] has joined #ubuntu === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu === stuNNed [~stuNNed@adsl-068-209-149-165.sip.msy.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu === tritium [~tritium@ee213-dhcp-14.ecn.purdue.edu] has joined #ubuntu [02:23] usb disk gets mounted but doesn'T show up in computer :( [02:24] so the 'i386' version of ubuntu - will that install on the amd64? [02:24] Peter, yes === NetwrkMonkey [~Monkey@netwrkmonkey.user] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [02:24] adding universe allows stuff like amsn etc to be installed, correct? [02:24] just not 64bit, ok [02:24] amd64 boxes can run regular x86 OSes, it's just a bit of a waste :) [02:24] Peter, you didn't install that kernel I pointed you too last night? [02:24] you pointed one to me? [02:25] Peter, yes, you asked about installing off the archive [02:25] oh yeah [02:25] Especially in Linux. :) [02:25] ok i need help === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu === SackeR [~sacker@206.74.57.91] has joined #ubuntu [02:26] lost some of my icons under the Computer menu [02:26] for like Home, Desktop, Documents, Disk [02:26] any way to get them back? [02:26] this is warty [02:26] tritium: i cant remember what the error was, but it didnt like it. [02:26] i'll try it again. [02:26] ok [02:27] was it on the ubuntu ftp? [02:28] Peter, archive.ubuntu.com is where you were looking [02:28] ok [02:28] http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-meta/ [02:29] "linux-image-386_2.6.10-3_i386.deb" [02:29] like that one? [02:30] Peter, you can give it a try, if you're sure you don't want to use the amd64 one === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu === noflex [~noflex@D40AE630.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #ubuntu === lamont [~lamont@mix.mmjgroup.com] has joined #ubuntu [02:31] ok. [02:31] brb [02:33] is it just here, or does gnome-volume-manager in hoary suck? [02:33] sometimes icons appear [02:33] sometimes not === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu === buga [burjang@pandora.inf.elte.hu] has joined #ubuntu === magiccheese [~preston@ip68-107-185-118.lu.dl.cox.net] has left #ubuntu [] === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu === Ycros [~Ycros@c211-30-18-47.thorn1.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu === oferw [~oferw@HFA62-0-138-173.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ubuntu [02:41] pmount works fine as a admin, but not as a regular user... [02:42] is anyone else having issues updating at the moment [02:42] How I can change permissions so that regular user can mount usb stick to computer? [02:42] MM2 pmount doesn't work if you have an entry in fstab === antec_ [~antec@61.68.239.231] has joined #ubuntu [02:42] MM2 an user has to be in the plugdev group [02:42] quitte: there is no entry in fstab [02:42] ah... [02:42] hi can someone tell me how to become root in ubuntu? === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [02:43] antec_: sudo -s -H === Get [~gustav@gw5.web.thalamus.se] has joined #ubuntu [02:43] Hi! Can I enable DHCP logging? [02:43] thenuke and how I become user again? [02:43] antec_: logout [02:43] ok thanks guys === ICU [~me@host-95173.ewetel.de] has joined #ubuntu [02:45] antec_, Ctrl-D does it also [02:46] I still am not able to uncomment the 2 lines in sources.list [02:46] in Debian it was different === FireEgl [Ariel@Atlantica.US] has joined #Ubuntu === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu === klaym [~isom@a81-197-204-3.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu === MM2 wonders how to add all 1500 users to plugdev group with winbind... [02:48] MM2 1500 users?? [02:48] hey what's the newest xchat version for Warty? [02:48] antec_, it's the same as in debian [02:48] antec_: sudo su and you'll become root [02:49] quitte: 1500 users from windows server, userdatabase is in windows 2k :) [02:50] quitte: it is rather paranoic to use ubuntu and terminal server client to access to w2k server from ubuntu [02:50] antec_, see thenuke's coment above, edit file as in debian [02:50] MM2: sudo -s -H is better way [02:50] it was nice to find that tool from ubuntu! [02:50] MM2 good luck [02:50] MM2: so have the wiser ones told me === snowblink [~snowblink@wind.snowblink.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [02:51] could someone using xchat please check for me which is the version? [02:51] daniels: is there a problem with locales in hoary? === jcoxon77 [~jac208@jac208.caths.cam.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [02:52] klaym: 2.0.8 [02:52] nautilus in hoary is fucked. automounting works - but the desktop and computer folder are only updated when i do something with the cdrom icon in computer folder :( [02:52] klaym 2.4.1 [02:52] ok thanks [02:52] klaym: ah, hoary... sorry! [02:52] 2.4.1 is the newest then I guess [02:52] yep it is :) [02:53] someone having the same problem? usb stick mounted, but not on desktop and in the computer folder? [02:53] I try to open sources.list as root through terminal and it says permission denied [02:53] quitte: are you using 2.6.8 with gamin? === Pozac thinks quitte needs inotify [02:53] antec how are you trying to open it === adnans [~adnans@noterik2.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu [02:54] Pozac nautilus version seems to be 2.9.90 [02:54] Guardiann I tried like this: /etc/apt/sources.list [02:54] quitte: inotify is in linux-i386 2.6.10 [02:54] Pozac gamin is installed [02:55] Pozac: what is inotify? [02:55] as root you need to type this >>>>> gedit /etc/apt/sources.list [02:55] Pozac: a kernel patch? [02:55] quitte: replacement for dnotify :) === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu === Nafallo [nafallo@h123n3c1o1027.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu [02:55] Pozac in the kernel? [02:56] Guardiann thanks it worked === chroot [~elboog@chroot-0000002.user] has joined #ubuntu [02:56] yw === chroot [~elboog@chroot-0000002.user] has left #ubuntu ["Sto] [02:56] Pozac installing dnotify now. cant find inotify. thanks [02:56] quitte: sudo apt-get install linux-i386 [02:56] quitte: dont install dnotify [02:56] Pozac. no. this kernel is absolutely perfectly suited for my machine [02:57] quitte: no, it doesnt have inofity [02:57] hehe [02:57] Pozac i could add a patch === Pozac uses the linux-i686 one [02:57] Pozac, the kernel should have inotify [02:57] tritium: not 2.6.8 ? [02:57] he's using a homemade one [02:58] Pozac, oh, okay [02:58] Ubuntu 2.6.8 kernels don't have inotify. Ubuntu 2.6.10 ones do. [02:58] Upstream 2.6.10 doesn't have inotify [02:58] I knew my 2.6.10 had it [02:58] So how does he import his .config to 2.6.10 ? [02:58] ok. it is a patch. i'll apply it myself. === stub [~stub@dsl-246.248.240.220.dsl.comindico.com.au] has left #ubuntu [] === jeegiz [~jeegy@213.197.167.90] has joined #ubuntu [02:59] mjg59, have you seen Dell laptops needing 2 presses of the power button to resume from sleep? [02:59] Latitude 8000 series and C800 series? === vpalle [~vpalle@park222.koll.au.dk] has joined #ubuntu [02:59] when starting crossover-office, the screen goes blank; I have to Ctrl+ALt+Fn and then Alt+F7 to return to xorg correctly === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [03:00] tritium: Afraid not [03:00] no0tic: nvidia graphics card? [03:00] I'll see if I can get my hands on one to test [03:00] hm [03:01] id like to try ubuntu [03:01] mjg59, hmm, I'm experiencing it on my C840, and friend is on his latitude 8100 (and D800 too, I think) [03:01] :S [03:01] Pozac: ati [03:01] evil-dna: it's free [03:01] i know [03:01] i have 3 pounds of ubuntu CDs [03:01] no0tic: ok.. with the fglrx driver ? [03:01] every window cxoffice opens, xorg goes blank [03:01] Pozac: yes [03:02] I don't think xorg is supported [03:02] Pozac: from ati drivers? [03:02] Pozac: ye [03:02] Pozac, they wont run on this laptop.. and the CD drives are dead on my other PC [03:02] by that driver.. so use 'radeon' in xorg.conf or get XFree [03:03] Pozac: ati released new drivers supporting xorg6.8.1 === _KonvIRC_ [~konversat@host-142-204-9-69.midco.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:03] evil-dna: get the new livecd! [03:03] no0tic: oh [03:03] <_KonvIRC_> is ubuntu a disease? === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [03:04] _KonvIRC_: no? [03:04] more like a drug [03:04] <_KonvIRC_> have you tried vidalinux yet? [03:04] depends on you perspective [03:05] ;) [03:05] <_KonvIRC_> precompiled gentoo...pretty nice [03:05] sweet === Gusto_ [~gusto@dsl59-177.firstmile.no] has joined #ubuntu [03:05] heh [03:06] <_KonvIRC_> uses a nice front end for emerge called porthole [03:06] "The desktop components are based on the best proyects of the open source community includes GNOME desktop environment, OpenOffice Ximian productivity suite" [03:06] i just wish the guy who promoted it knew more spelling and grammar === scizzo [~scizzo@c-f70f72d5.01-113-76786a1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu [03:07] "Vidalinux Desktop OS is the only system which includes additional multimedia and productivity aplications for the home user incluying media players, browser plugins, graphics design and administration tools" [03:07] uh? [03:07] Only? [03:07] <_KonvIRC_> im on xandros here, everything works straight up for me...i like that [03:07] lol === Pozac doesnt approve of the breaking into 'lite' and 'full' versions though [03:08] the humanity === kent [~kent@83.249.62.252] has joined #ubuntu [03:08] heh === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [03:08] if you dont pay for vidalinux you dont get evolution or firefox [03:08] <_KonvIRC_> face it, to get the general public interested in linux, command line is gonna have to go the way of dos === ctr [~ctr@twoflower.hiddenmemory.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [03:09] <_KonvIRC_> that means things have to be done outside of command line === granted [~bibi@ca-bordeaux-10-238.w80-8.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu [03:09] flodin: email and web is only for advanced users [03:09] How do I enable DHCP logging? [03:09] _KonvIRC_, i agree totally. But realy the gnome system tools is a good way of doing some things without terminal [03:09] simple users can sit and twiddle their thumbs easily with the tools they have [03:09] :-P [03:09] _KonvIRC_: Dos is very much alive [03:09] <_KonvIRC_> ture dos is alive, but its dying slowly with xp out there === sn0wman [~dan@pix012-105.pix.wmich.edu] has joined #ubuntu [03:10] <_KonvIRC_> true [03:10] _KonvIRC_: CLI doesnt have to die for GUI to be provided [03:10] i want ppp0 to start at boot time [03:10] <_KonvIRC_> ya keep it around for advanced users, but most people dont have the time for command line [03:11] _KonvIRC_: MS are moving towards CLI with some of their products (ie... win2k3 server) === Pozac hardly uses the command line in ubuntu [03:11] a good system has a good CLI ADN a good GUI [03:11] s/ADN/AND [03:11] <_KonvIRC_> im a little surprised that root isnt enabled in ubuntu [03:12] why? [03:12] _KonvIRC_: thats one thing about ubuntu that I think is good for the user [03:12] <_KonvIRC_> because its the first distro ive tried thats like that [03:12] no one cares for root [03:12] it promotes good security practise === Bigtoe [fwuser@fctg.com] has joined #ubuntu [03:12] unless they care for the machine [03:12] <_KonvIRC_> i dont need someone telling me how to use my os [03:12] <_KonvIRC_> if i wanna use root, ill use root [03:12] _KonvIRC_: they arent tell you how to use it === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [03:12] _KonvIRC_, so enable it if you want to [03:12] they are promoting good security [03:12] _KonvIRC_: sudo passwd [03:12] how to make ppp0 starts at boot [03:12] you can set a root password if you like [03:12] _KonvIRC_: so you set the password and get on with your life. no one is telling you how to use your os. [03:13] you can also get a root shell without setting the password too === Prower [~Prower@wiley-287-16295.roadrunner.nf.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:13] sudo -s [03:13] <_KonvIRC_> with 95% of the computers in the world running windows, id say that argument is laughable [03:13] _KonvIRC_: but you'll learn the benefits in time. :-) [03:13] _KonvIRC_: Im a security consultant, people WILL run under the admin/root account discouraging that is a good thing and one of Ubuntus best features [03:14] i didn't even know about sudo until i installed ubuntu [03:14] MS get slated for not discouraging this in their products [03:14] <_KonvIRC_> how many people out there are capable of hacking a linux box....they concentrate on windows anyway === rotundo [~charles@65.202.41.98] has joined #ubuntu [03:14] now i have my fedora box set up the same way === DudeX [~DudeX@66.192.38.14] has joined #ubuntu [03:14] _KonvIRC_: you know this channel is for help and support and stuff right? [03:15] _KonvIRC_: that's a bit stupid to say that [03:15] _KonvIRC_: minutes ago you said graphical interfaces and "vidalinux" are good replacements to commandline, now you say you dont want anybody telling you how to use your OS. You're trolling. === tealq [~tealq@node.tor] has joined #ubuntu [03:15] <_KonvIRC_> its nice to discuss the pros and cons dont you think? [03:15] flodin: good observation :) [03:15] fact is that windows boxes get hacked way more easily [03:15] _KonvIRC_: why do windows boxes get hacked more easily [03:15] _KonvIRC_: you think there is a count for how many people that can do that? [03:15] <_KonvIRC_> yep they do rubenv [03:15] _KonvIRC_: could it be because Ms dont do what Ubuntu are trying to do ? [03:15] given the fact that linux boxes are on better HW and better connections, i'd hack them === Aukstas24 [~kikaz@213.190.36.2] has joined #ubuntu [03:16] but they're way too hard [03:16] <_KonvIRC_> its because 95% of the cmmputers are running windows,,,,,thats why they have so many security issues......if ubuntu for instance was that popular, then they would have the same problems [03:16] (for the record: the only thing i hack is software ;)) === radis [~mfernande@42-175-20.leased.cust.tie.cl] has joined #ubuntu [03:17] rubenv: remotely running software perhaps? === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu === nevyn [~nevyn@c211-28-49-238.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [03:17] _KonvIRC_: yep, so they should prmomote security to minimise those issues [03:17] ;) === PWM [~PWM@50A2E1C8.flatrate.dk] has joined #ubuntu === WindowsUninstall [~WindowsUn@a-ms3-67.tin.it] has joined #ubuntu [03:17] ok, you're just looking for troll :) [03:17] your argument is, its not as popular as windows so drop the security measures [03:18] <_KonvIRC_> ya, i agree security in any os is important, but its much easier to go into root when your doing maintenance and installing aps [03:18] _KonvIRC_: may I just ask....what is the point of this discussion? [03:18] yeah [03:18] _KonvIRC_: so go into root, its documented as to how to do that [03:18] _KonvIRC_: it's a matter of habit [03:18] The point of it is likely to get you all arguing with him, in which case he's succeeding rather well :> [03:18] and not doing it is a better practice [03:18] root accounts are so 90's === nevyn kicks singtel. network running normally my ass. [03:18] end of discussion ;) [03:18] <_KonvIRC_> lol, i enjoy discussion [03:18] <_KonvIRC_> not arguments [03:19] hah [03:19] 1992 called, they want their login back [03:19] <_KonvIRC_> your the experts, im just playing devils advocate here [03:19] _KonvIRC_: then discuss instead of argue your lame points [03:19] <_KonvIRC_> i am learning [03:19] _KonvIRC_: well...for the record....the best security.....unplugg it from the net.... [03:19] end of discussion === _martyr [~mriedel@pD9E9E292.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:19] <_KonvIRC_> this seems like a good place to learn [03:20] hello, I've just installed ubuntu hoary with kde, but the "K" menu doesn't show the applications menu, anyone? [03:20] scizzo: no, best security is no power :) [03:20] One could still walk up to the machine and steal information [03:20] Pozac: not if I steal your hard drive :-P [03:20] <_KonvIRC_> is apt-get the utility to use for installing applications then? [03:20] argh [03:20] there is no security [03:20] okay then...don't get a computer [03:21] <_KonvIRC_> or should i install synaptic [03:21] so we'd better just drop it all [03:21] _KonvIRC_: yes, or synaptic if your prefer to use gui [03:21] fuck this user crap, I'm root from now on [03:21] ;) === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [03:21] <_KonvIRC_> ok how do install synaptic without root privelidges? [03:21] sudo apt-get install synaptic [03:21] sudo apt-get instll synaptic [03:21] I think its installed by default, if not sud.... what they said [03:21] ;) === granted [~bibi@ca-bordeaux-10-238.w80-8.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #ubuntu [] [03:22] <_KonvIRC_> thank you, i shouldnt have to come in a chat room to find out how to get root privelidges, it should be there already [03:22] missed an "a" [03:22] :/ [03:22] _KonvIRC_: www.ubuntu.com [03:22] <_KonvIRC_> end of conversation hehe [03:22] _KonvIRC_: its documented [03:22] do you need a direct link to a faq? [03:22] _KonvIRC_: didn't read the info when you installed it? [03:22] Troll manual, step #2: pretend to befriend users of a channel to get their attention again, and then continue trolling once they've fallen for it [03:22] _KonvIRC_: do you have any intention of listening to arguments for sudo instead of su? [03:22] _KonvIRC_: in the install it tells you what to use to get root access [03:23] <_KonvIRC_> hell no, you would assume that the basics would all be there for christ sakes [03:23] or are you just going to keep going on about this? [03:23] Prower: he has some skill ;) [03:23] _KonvIRC_: like basic security ? [03:23] :) [03:23] flodin: Either that or the people still bothering to talk to him are ignorant of what's actually going on [03:23] <_KonvIRC_> basic usage [03:23] sudo [03:23] _KonvIRC_: things changes... [03:23] <_KonvIRC_> but thank you for passing that info on to me, i appreciate, i really do, you guys are good, thanks [03:24] advanced: sudo -s [03:24] _KonvIRC_: basic usage is there, as is basic security [03:24] what bothers me about the sudo method though is that any app i use normally like irc or web brower stuff coud, when exploited cause me to leak a password that's enough to get root [03:24] theoretically i don't think there's much difference between the sudo method and running as root all the time [03:24] <_KonvIRC_> and i enjoyed the stimulating conversation, even if you didnt hehe [03:24] _KonvIRC_: you should really start to read what the installation tells you... [03:24] flodin: dont use user password on the web then [03:24] radis: it's a known problem, we're looking at it === dan_ [~dan@pix012-105.pix.wmich.edu] has joined #ubuntu [03:25] Pozac: that's not what i mean, i mean something could be exploited and, say, add a custom "sudo" to my path [03:25] <_KonvIRC_> no offense, but im looking for a distro that the average user can figure out, called intuitive graphical user interface, i build and sell pc's, and i would like to see a linux distro step forward and do that, then we might have something great === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [03:25] flodin: or a custom 'su' === Cturtle [~Cturtle__@a213-84-50-38.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu [03:25] Pozac: i.e. by injecting code through stack smash attack [03:25] _KonvIRC_: what do you think is missing from ubuntu on the intuitive GUI side ? === tezem [~tezem@chello213047234226.tirol.surfer.at] has joined #ubuntu [03:26] flodin: You do realize that the same thing could be done in any Linux distribution, I assume :> [03:26] Pozac: sure. So in theory it's all the same [03:26] flodin: guess so [03:26] The fact that it uses sudo instead of a root account doesn't affect its vulnerability to local exploits [03:26] <_KonvIRC_> an easy way to install aps, most people dont have a clue about apt-get cli interfaces [03:26] Prower: yes, i'm just saying "sudo" doesn't solve the basic problem [03:26] _KonvIRC_: I thought synaptic was on the default install, if not it should be [03:26] <_KonvIRC_> im not saying its hard, i just would like to see something thats a little more intuitive [03:27] _KonvIRC_: synaptic is installed by default [03:27] flodin: Perhaps, but it doesn't create any additional problems either :> In fact it helps to fix some of them, such as the fact that most distributions don't log commands executed by root === steki [~steki@195.242.76.32] has joined #ubuntu [03:27] <_KonvIRC_> i just learned about synaptic last night myself, im pretty new to linux myself [03:27] _KonvIRC_: check out ubuntu hoary, when it comes out in april it will rule [03:27] right [03:27] hi to all [03:27] <_KonvIRC_> ive been using xandros for the last six months [03:28] what do you think of xandros? [03:28] Has anyone an idea if there is a Alcatel Speedtouch USB driver vor the amd64 arch? Otherwise I think this modem wouldn't run under ubuntu amd64. [03:28] <_KonvIRC_> thats a little more about what i was talking about, no dis intended towards ubuntu which is very good === rcaskey_ [~rcaskey@cai17.music.uga.edu] has joined #ubuntu [03:28] It strikes me as odd that every second time I've been in here, there's been a guy trolling for Xandros :> What a coincidence === Gusto_ [~gusto@dsl59-177.firstmile.no] has joined #ubuntu [03:28] <_KonvIRC_> xandros is complete and fully functioning out of the box, and has a package manager that is easy to use === prox2far [~prox2far@x1-6-00-03-2f-20-07-74.k133.webspeed.dk] has joined #ubuntu [03:29] Pozac: what are the highlights of hoary? [03:29] <_KonvIRC_> being a noob myself i appreciated that [03:29] _KonvIRC_: Do you actually work for Xandros, or do you just spend your time in here to get on people's nerves? [03:29] <_KonvIRC_> thanks for your patience guys, ill stop bugging ya ,, appreciate your time [03:29] <_KonvIRC_> lol prower === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu === Amaranth [Amaranth@amaranth.user] has joined #ubuntu [03:30] <_KonvIRC_> naaa, i really am looking for a easy to use distro that anyone can use, were all getting closer everyday bro === Amaranth got his CDs [03:30] flodin: gnome 2.10, stabilization and a host of new software [03:30] just in time too [03:30] <_KonvIRC_> we have one thing in common...........DEATH TO MSHAFT hehe [03:30] Yeah, you're looking for an easy distro...except you claim to have found it (Xandros), and you come in here complaining about all the problems with this one unnecessarily. Maybe you should go back to posting Slashdot crapfloods :> [03:31] <_KonvIRC_> xandros is good, but not quite there yet [03:31] the main thing about hoary i like is the move to UTF-8 throughout the entire distro [03:31] Pozac: do you know anything about internationalization efforts, such as scim input methods in gnome? [03:31] hmm [03:31] wakanai [03:31] not much [03:31] <_KonvIRC_> i wasnt complaining,, just a freindly discussion === auto_ [~auto@bgp01038385bgs.sothwt01.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu === Prower puts the troll on ignore and continues on his merry way [03:31] evil-dna: "wakaranai" :) [03:31] <_KonvIRC_> actually im impressed with ubuntu [03:31] nah [03:32] u could say what i said [03:32] :P [03:32] <_KonvIRC_> the fact that its totally free yet, is nice [03:32] <_KonvIRC_> i always recommend it to people along with a couple of other distros [03:32] Does anyone know how I might be able to get Windowmaker 91.0 installed in 4.10? [03:33] I've just installed ubuntu hoary with kde, but the "K" menu doesn't show the applications menu, anyone knowns how to fix this? [03:33] <_KonvIRC_> just seems a little childish not to enable root in the base isntall [03:33] cdimage.u.c seems horribly slow, is it the livecd slashdotting? you guys need mirrors? [03:33] <_KonvIRC_> later guys, thanks === Cturtle [~Cturtle__@a213-84-50-38.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [03:34] Good, the dumbass finally left [03:34] childish? [03:35] Bigtoe: He's been in here before :> Always complaining about a non-issue, always ranting about how much better Xandros is === Gusto__ [~gusto@dsl59-177.firstmile.no] has joined #ubuntu [03:35] 14:24 < Riddell> radis: it's a known problem, we're looking at it [03:35] People still fall for it, amazingly enough [03:35] radis: you can try installing gnome-menus === bradb [~bradb@p188.h-yulrz01.stsn.com] has joined #ubuntu [03:35] i tried the free version of xandros. it is a commercial for the versions you have to pay for [03:35] i didn't like it [03:36] Riddell: okay, I'll try that [03:36] Xandros is too Windows like [03:36] If I wanted something that looked like Windows and ran Windows programs I'd use Windows. [03:37] Riddell: yes! it worked! thank you very much === Cturtle_ [~Cturtle__@a213-84-50-38.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [03:38] ubuntu is th best I like it === Cturtle_ [~Cturtle__@a213-84-50-38.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [03:40] i use ubuntu at work and fedora at home === Gusto__ is now known as Gusto_ === Prower [~Prower@wiley-287-16295.roadrunner.nf.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:42] Is there somewhere a repository where I can see the ubuntu packages currently available in the tree? === kent [~kent@83.249.62.252] has joined #ubuntu === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu === mindphasr [~mind@000-482-401.area4.spcsdns.net] has joined #ubuntu === HcE^ [~hc@188.80-202-212.nextgentel.com] has joined #ubuntu === digmi1 [~Digmig@pD9E39952.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu === kolya [ngb@bylands.dur.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu === SePpiK [~seppi@pD955A6A4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu === umarmung [~Schreiber@pD9542DE3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu === Demitar [~demitar@212.214.250.68] has joined #ubuntu === marcin_ant [~marcin@www.e-dev.tele2.pl] has joined #ubuntu === Skwid_ [~Skwid@stlaurent-1-82-228-247-28.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu === Prower [~Prower@wiley-287-16295.roadrunner.nf.net] has joined #ubuntu === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu === kolya [ngb@bylands.dur.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu === NetwrkMonkey [~Monkey@netwrkmonkey.user] has joined #ubuntu === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu === kolya [ngb@bylands.dur.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu === dutch [~dutch@cpe-024-211-215-161.nc.rr.com] has left #ubuntu ["work"] === badrunner [~badRunner@host81-137-177-113.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has joined #ubuntu === SePpiK [~seppi@pD955A6A4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu === scoon [~scoon@dsl092-234-243.phl1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu === Mafalda_argentin [~mafalda01@168-226-92-131.speedy.com.ar] has joined #ubuntu [04:02] tezem: check synaptic === ToTo [~ToTo@host145-133.pool8254.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu [04:03] in term: sudo synaptic === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu === saunderez [~saunderez@203-206-16-61.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu === jeddy3_ [~mattias@regulus3.student.UU.SE] has joined #ubuntu [04:05] The Hoary LiveCD f*ing ROCKS! :D [04:06] Damn, I can't wait for April :) [04:06] then don't === Kodbar [~chatzilla@ALyon-209-2-1-64.w80-14.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu [04:07] I'm sure there are still things that need to be fixed... [04:07] (Like power management, which I filed ;)) === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [04:08] in the livecd or..? === kolya [ngb@bylands.dur.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu [04:08] lovecd === jono [~jono@80.68.82.48] has joined #ubuntu [04:08] hi all [04:08] is there python support for gconf packaged for ubuntu? [04:09] ? [04:09] jono: yes [04:10] its part of python-gtk [04:10] which is installed by default afaik [04:10] python-gtk2 [04:10] mindphasr: LiveCD + release I think. === scizzo [~scizzo@c-f70f72d5.01-113-76786a1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu [04:10] Tomcat_: ahh === digmi1 [~Digmig@pD9E39952.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #ubuntu [] [04:11] right === EvolutionR [~Username@218.111.35.17] has joined #ubuntu [04:11] how to remove the ntp from synchronising on boot up? === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu === Kodbar [~chatzilla@ALyon-209-2-1-64.w80-14.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #ubuntu [] === tritium [~tritium@ee213-dhcp-14.ecn.purdue.edu] has joined #ubuntu [04:13] EvolutionR: Right click on the time in Gnome... there you can change it in the properties. [04:14] EvolutionR: sudo update-rc.d -f ntpdate remove [04:14] Tomcat_: which one? === t31 [~mm21@chello084010094087.chello.pl] has joined #ubuntu === SeFoKumA [~zienaga@27.Red-81-44-123.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:14] EvolutionR: Which one? I don't get that question. [04:14] ok i got the plugin install in mozilla-firefox.. and everything should be good.. but i get this error when runnin through terminal INTERNAL ERROR on Browser End: Could not get the plugin manager [04:14] System error?:: Success [04:14] mindphasr: where did u get this command from which website? [04:14] anyone got any ideas? [04:14] how can i fix .ICEauthority, i have my computer out of order :( [04:15] EvolutionR: um.. i didn't. [04:15] Tomcat_: You said on the Gnome Time...I look there's none ntp thing there to configure. === kolya [ngb@bylands.dur.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu [04:15] EvolutionR: thats just a way to remove ntpdate from startup scripts [04:15] mindphasr: okie! === VivekVC is now known as Vivek|Supper === theine [~theine@x1-6-00-0c-41-7e-f9-af.k200.webspeed.dk] has joined #ubuntu [04:16] hi, how can i edit the Gnome menus in Hoary? [04:16] theine: At the moment you can't really..you can add to the menus though === EvolutionR [~Username@218.111.35.17] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [04:16] that question gets ask a lot now :) [04:16] mindphasr: and how do I do that? [04:17] Zindar: sorry :) [04:17] nevermind, it's not that important === toxickore [~toxickore@148.235.96.124] has joined #ubuntu [04:19] :) [04:19] don't worry... === digmig [~Digmig@pD9E39952.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #ubuntu [] [04:19] theine: Well, if you really waned to you could add .desktop files in ~/.local/share/applications this is not a hoary bug. the support for menu editing changing is being fixed in gnome [04:19] there is no gui way in hoary... you'll have to dig trought .desktop files yourself [04:20] I see, thanks guys [04:20] not really a bug either..just no gui for ityet === StoneTable [~stone@65.169.94.254] has joined #ubuntu === pAntZ [~pAntZ@64.18.178.21] has joined #ubuntu === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [04:20] is there some trick to using bittornado? "btdownloadcurses hoary-live-i386.iso.torrent" never works [04:21] How can i get acpi power down to work on my laptop? It used to work fine on debian sid, but with warty it just hangs at the end of shutdown an i have to power it off manually [04:21] tritium, you need to supply a full file:/// url, which sucks [04:21] tritium, or, I'd recommend using btlaunchmanycurses [04:21] mjr, thanks for the info! [04:21] tritium: there seems to be an issue with the tracker recently [04:21] tritium, it loads all the torrents in cwd [04:22] at least over here [04:22] Lathiat, any idea where I can find some documentation on using gconf with python? [04:22] anyone knows something about how to restore ICEauthority? [04:22] maswan, thanks to you too [04:23] eh, problems connecting to tracker [04:23] i someone here that has a 2.6 uml running and can answer some questions? [04:23] I'll just download the iso [04:23] s/i/is [04:24] t31: you need to chown it to your user [04:24] quitte: dont have one running but i might be able to help you -- whats up? [04:24] what's a clean way of temporarily disabling esd? ``killall esd'' seems very rude... [04:24] Lathiat i want to know what ubd devices look like in /sys. wether they have a bus they connect to. === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [04:25] Amaranth i know now ti chown files, but users? [04:25] theine, in the Sound settings you can disable esd from there. [04:25] Amaranth i said nothing O:P [04:25] scoon: but in principle i'd like to use it, just not when i play quake 3 [04:26] t31: I was going to say... :P [04:26] Amaranth too many hours here sitting down === schweeb|work [~chris@67.105.219.60.ptr.us.xo.net] has joined #ubuntu === kolya [ngb@bylands.dur.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu [04:26] t31: sudo chown largo:largo .ICEauthority [04:26] would be an example..grabbed it from ubuntuforums.org.. user:group [04:26] Lathiat not sure if ubd is the right name. block devices that exist in uml only, but are not ide emulation. === schweeb|work [~chris@67.105.219.60.ptr.us.xo.net] has left #ubuntu [] [04:26] theine, you don't really need it tho. [04:27] I can't have said anything here in months. Why am I still here? === MacPlusG3 [~stewart@c211-28-166-127.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu === rjek [~rjek@haddenham.pepperfish.net] has left #ubuntu [] [04:27] theine, unfortunately, gnome ties all of its window sounds w/ esd. so i think turning off esd means you loose that feature. [04:27] theine, but music and gaim and what not would still work. [04:27] mindphasr, amaranth: thx :) [04:28] everybody should use the software mixing in alsa [04:28] and end this craziness [04:28] scoon: alright, i'll think about it === abelli [~abelli@adsl-84-222-39-4.tiscali.it] has joined #ubuntu === Vivek|Supper is now known as Vivek === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu === Vivek is now known as VivekVC === jaytee [~jt@jtrostel.gtri.gatech.edu] has joined #ubuntu === kolya [ngb@bylands.dur.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu === jaytee [~jt@jtrostel.gtri.gatech.edu] has left #ubuntu ["Client] === zeedo [~notroot@www.bsrf.org.uk] has joined #ubuntu === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu === thoreauputic [~chatzilla@wolax8-066.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [04:34] Is there a way when doing a apt-get dist-upgrade to stop it early and have apt install those packages that are completed and have all dependencies downloaded? I have a slow connection.. [04:35] mindphasr, well.. perhaps you can try to do "apt-get install somepackage" to get apt to download all the dependencys needed for that package. Perhaps a bit more riscy.. but it might work. [04:35] what keys shutdown linux? [04:35] is there any? [04:36] naw use synaptic [04:36] kent: See, that seems to be the only way to do it. Pick out a few packages from dist-upgrade and install them..didn't know if there was a different way of doing it [04:36] better way of downloading all dependencies and packages [04:36] ctrl-alt-del runs a reboot by default, but only in text mode [04:36] ephic when you are in textmode ctrl-alt-del should reboot [04:36] ctrl-alt-del restarts [04:36] ya i know.. [04:36] ephic: and why would you think that? === zeedo [~notroot@www.bsrf.org.uk] has joined #ubuntu [04:36] because it is [04:36] ya but im on a gui [04:36] gnome [04:37] Its the exact same [04:37] is there any command? [04:37] It's just a gui for apt and dpkg [04:37] ephic with acpi properly setup you can use the power button [04:37] no ctrl+alt+del doesnt restart [04:37] ephic, shutdown can be run from gnome-terminal [04:37] what command? [04:37] c+a+d? [04:37] ctrl-alt-f1 changes to a text console [04:37] ah ok thanks [04:37] you can choose to shutdown when you log out of gnome ephic === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu === kolya [ngb@bylands.dur.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu === matt__ [~matt@h005022e3b78f.ne.client2.attbi.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:38] shutdown -r now === marcin [~marcin@www.e-dev.tele2.pl] has joined #ubuntu [04:39] while opening an .avi file i get this errore xacodec: failed to dlopen [04:39] do you know where can i get this codec? [04:39] hey [04:39] which develpment tool do you think good? [04:39] haha: for what kind of work? [04:39] C development [04:39] xine won't work dependencies problems? [04:39] I guess Unix C?? === jdub [~jdub@home.waugh.id.au] has joined #ubuntu [04:40] Linux C [04:40] any one? === Scooter [~jocco@hnllhi1-ar6-4-7-245-121.hnllhi1.dsl-verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu === matt__ [~matt@h005022e3b78f.ne.client2.attbi.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:40] haha: anjuta [04:40] ? === thoreauputic [~chatzilla@wolax8-066.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has left #ubuntu [] [04:41] mindphasr, thanks you. === matt__ [~matt@h005022e3b78f.ne.client2.attbi.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:41] ? === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [04:42] http://www.s91842597.onlinehome.us/game/ninja/ninja.htm My 100% ubuntu made game figure :) === ohgood [~nunya@pcp02380990pcs.mrdian01.ms.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu === kolya [ngb@bylands.dur.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu === rubenv [~lambda1@83-134-125-218.Leuven.GoPlus.FastDSL.tiscali.be] has joined #ubuntu [04:44] Might anyone point me to a chroot type install for ubuntu ? Reason being i have several linux on hda/hdb, and am wary of my /boot/ being overwritten on install. [04:44] ohgood, debootstrap [04:44] Scooter, is this game? [04:44] mjr: ty sir, google should do the rest nicely :) === scotth [~scotth@stroustrup.csee.wvu.edu] has joined #ubuntu [04:46] yes I am makeing all my game charictors in Linux :) [04:46] useing wings3d, Blender , and GIMP :) === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [04:46] all made possible from useing Ubuntu linux :) [04:47] mjr: ahh, i like ubuntu's docs already. Very nice job folks. :) === kolya [ngb@bylands.dur.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu [04:48] perhaps I make a Dragon today [04:48] so. i'm now running an inotify enabled kernel. still gnome-volume-manager is not working properly [04:48] scizzo: er? [04:49] I had same problem, then I switched to XFce 4.2 and my volume control works 8) [04:49] Scooter: i never typed that === mameluke [~bo@84-72-12-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #ubuntu [04:50] gnome-volume-manager is not the same as gnome audio volume controls [04:50] Scooter: and volume control has nothing to do with volume-manager [04:50] Ah! sorry [04:50] daniels got the package working :) === Pit [~pti@cpc1-sout5-5-0-cust130.sot3.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:50] thought you where haveing Audio Difuculties === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [04:51] Scooter: gnome-volume-manager is gnome's daemon to auto-mount devices === Scooter had to go to jail for mounting his hard disk in public place. [04:51] I can't apt-get any upgrades, with any of the mirrors I have tried so far [04:51] (apt-get update works) [04:51] amd64, hoary [04:52] PIT sudo apt-get update first :) [04:52] auto mounting works. but nautilus doen't update when a new device appears. it doesn'T even pop up a cd icon when i insert a cd. === setite [~setite@ip68-108-159-134.lv.lv.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:52] everything gets mounted properly,though [04:52] Scooter: I've apt-get update'd repeatedly :P [04:52] (as root) [04:52] Ah... [04:52] did you tweak the repositories? [04:52] the maint-guide package seems older than http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/index.en.html [04:53] enable universe and Multiverse? [04:53] how can I change the destination of a link (via terminal, as I need root to do that in usr/bin) === telemaco [~telemaco@6.Red-81-35-230.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu === Zindar [~bagfors@114.221.181.62.in-addr.dgcsystems.net] has left #ubuntu [] [04:53] klaym: rm the link, then recreate it === kolya [ngb@bylands.dur.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu [04:54] One other thing- I'm use to emerge -uD world(gentoo), is apt-get uprade still all that's needed for a completely current system (provided apt mirrros are set to devel or whatever?) [04:54] BTW if you guys want a nice 3d package for FREE, Try Wings 3D, it installs verry easy and for the most part is stable IMHO. [04:54] the Bleeding edge version of Blender installs and works like a charm also === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu === Amaranth [Amaranth@amaranth.user] has joined #ubuntu [04:55] Scooter: you are one of those people that thinks sanity isn't sacred right ? (joke--> blender) [04:56] i am one of those people who believes sanity is in the eye of the beholder. [04:56] excellent (: hehe === lamont_r [~lamont@rover3.mmjgroup.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:56] I believe everyone is crazy to a certain extent === Cindux [BOSS@d141-147-129.home.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:56] bla [04:57] 0o [04:57] what enables xandros to run windows apps [04:57] just crossover office? === tester_ [~yz@216.238.204.19] has joined #ubuntu [04:57] setite try useing WINE [04:57] wine sucks [04:57] crossover is wine :) [04:57] crossover office sucks too [04:57] VM ware [04:57] i cant get bitpim to work under either [04:57] yea that will be my next try when i get my next computer [04:57] it's the same ;) [04:58] which hopefully is today === [PervertedMonk] [Monk-Lazy@137.158.87.69] has joined #ubuntu === Cindux [BOSS@d141-147-129.home.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:58] Scooter: do you do any video editing also ? [04:58] vm ware is the same? [04:58] no [04:58] ok [04:58] vmware is a different concept [04:58] i thought you were nuts for a second [04:58] setite: vmware= VM, guest/host type setup [04:58] um [04:58] could anyone tell me [04:58] crossover, wine, cedega, all the same [04:58] yea i know what cmware does [04:58] I just bought a new PC [04:58] Is there still a free/trial version of vmware? [04:58] yes, but I must Boot into windows to Video edit [04:58] celeron 2.4ghz / 256mb ram ,onboard lan,soundvideo === kolya [ngb@bylands.dur.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu [04:58] I haven't touched vmware in years [04:58] mindphasr: i believe so [04:58] cindux... emachine? [04:58] can i just switch the hdd from my compaq into it ? [04:58] nope [04:59] I have not found a video editing solution yet [04:59] a barebone [04:59] <[PervertedMonk] > sigh [04:59] <[PervertedMonk] > can someone send me a ubuntu cd [04:59] http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=8132&vpn=P4/1.8/256/300W&manufacture=Intel [04:59] im on the same setup except its a 2.6 celeron === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu === vpalle [~vpalle@park222.koll.au.dk] has joined #ubuntu [04:59] Cindux: you mean one linux HD to a new box ? [04:59] i hate it [04:59] ye ? [04:59] j/w about hardware detection [04:59] but my other rig is a amd 64 3400+ with a 6800gt [04:59] will it automatically change for my new celeron [04:59] it... i love [04:59] or do i have to reinstall ? [04:59] Oo lucky bastard [04:59] what do you have now [04:59] Cindux: i'm thinking you'll run into a few problems, but i dunno. [05:00] hm [05:00] i guess i'll just wipe the hdd [05:00] reinstall it :P [05:00] na [05:00] thanks anyway [05:00] Cindux: tbh for the most youll be fine, but its much easier to do a clean install [05:00] well what do you have no [05:00] now [05:00] easier in the long run that is [05:00] bah lol [05:00] im so happy [05:00] the immediate thing i think of is the kernel [05:00] even though its a celeron this is a big step up [05:00] im currently using a p3 600mhz / 128mb ram pc [05:00] 4mb video [05:00] Cindux: i'd shrink / and keep it handy, make a fresh install, then try the old / and see (i like experiments) === Stuttergart [~Stutterga@mail.nathanvalentine.org] has joined #ubuntu [05:00] lol [05:01] i like experiments to [05:01] although i screw them up [05:01] i dont [05:01] i like things to work.. [05:01] lol [05:01] something is terribly wrong with my compaq anyway [05:01] experiments is why ive had to buy two 6800gts in the last two months [05:01] it lagged playing starcraft in single palyer [05:01] :O [05:01] i broke one becuase my motherboard had a death grip on it [05:01] you jers [05:01] setite: 6800gts being what ? [05:01] dont be jealous of my uber onboard 4mb [05:02] bfg 6800gt [05:02] the video card [05:02] ? [05:02] oh === uttam [~uttam@cable-68-184-69-14.abr.al.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:02] yea... not cheap [05:02] uhm, you broke a video card pulling it out ? :| [05:02] yea [05:02] lol [05:02] be sure to get the Kernel for your processor.. if you have celeronor Pentium 4 you might want to go to the !686 kernel... [05:02] the dfi lp ut nf3 has this lanparty feature === mg_ [~mg@spc1-leed3-6-0-cust18.seac.broadband.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:02] i would have had a p4 1.8 already [05:02] so the card cant come otu [05:02] but i bent the prongs [05:02] please - someone help me. cds auto mount - but don'T appear on the desktop [05:02] bah [05:03] well it also makes it very hard to remove the card [05:03] without a screwdriver [05:03] im mostly a linux noob i might screw it up [05:03] and i broke one of the transistors [05:03] i'll be on later everyone just gotta write a comp science exam [05:03] just use synaptic and reboot afterwards... totaly painless === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [05:03] oy [05:03] i will, ..... when it arrives [05:03] yea what he said oughtta work [05:03] :) [05:03] anyway thanks for the help [05:03] be no later [05:03] NP [05:03] on * [05:04] imma install trillian with crossover office [05:04] if Ubuntu dont work,Try memphis and Kanotix.. both easy to install like Ubuntu and Debian based === mikael [~mikael@h6n2fls302o1120.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:04] hes gone already [05:04] setite: the old windows irc/messenger app ? [05:04] ohgood yes [05:04] setite: Why would you do that? Don't like gaim? [05:04] gaim is giving me too much gried [05:04] setite: you don't like gaim or something ? [05:05] it wont direct connect [05:05] fabbione: around now [05:05] ahh - yeah, some issues there. [05:05] i enjoy pie === ephic [~ephic@68.184.7.52] has joined #ubuntu [05:05] hello ephic :| [05:06] are there any good gui c++ compilers ? [05:06] yea i thought i wouldnt mind but i do [05:06] Oo how goes it bitfoo [05:06] lol man ubuntu rocks. [05:06] splendid old chap :| [05:06] got this all configured === JanC [~JanC@dD576201C.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu [05:06] hah yeah...why :O [05:06] hmm, guess i'll go chroot and try some deboot funstuffs. (: [05:06] took a while to install java.. === ohgood [~nunya@pcp02380990pcs.mrdian01.ms.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu ["(:"] [05:06] oh yeah java is not so fun :/ [05:06] lol ya [05:06] but its workin now [05:06] :D [05:06] ;D === kolya [ngb@bylands.dur.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu [05:06] and when i have a cd mounted and plug a usb hdd in afterwards the hdd gets mounted. but it doesn'T appear on the desktop until view the contents of the cd or eject it. [05:07] i like sudo [05:07] good security [05:07] anyone - please. i have to get this working. [05:07] being as theres no root pass [05:07] yeah === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [05:07] quitte can you see it in the console :| === whaq_ [~whaq@203.130.197.106] has joined #ubuntu === RV [~lambda1@83-134-130-5.Leuven.GoPlus.FastDSL.tiscali.be] has joined #ubuntu [05:08] Is the houry apt server really slow for the moment or is it just me ? [05:08] bitfoo mount shows devices mounting and unmounting properly. [05:08] hoary ;> [05:08] bitfoo automatically === Badcel [~Badcel@p5086F13E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu === bretzel [~bretzel@modemcable128.237-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu === gotcha [~gotcha@4-230-90.dial.terra.cl] has joined #ubuntu [05:09] will i get more help if i try the ubuntu 2.6.10 kernel and that doesn'T work,too? === Prower [~Prower@wiley-287-16295.roadrunner.nf.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:11] Hello :> Out of curiousity, how up-to-date is Ubuntu kept with regard to security patches? === shock [~shockwave@dsl-082-082-155-253.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:11] re [05:11] no it should work quitte :| === Cturtle [~Cturtle__@a213-84-50-38.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu [05:11] seems like every week there is a patch [05:11] hello shock, give them the SHOCKER [05:11] :\ === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu === Bisclaveret [~chatzilla@AC9120AD.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:13] Scooter: That could be good or bad, I suppose ;> I think I was just used to getting updates more frequently when I was running Gentoo [05:13] lol === kolya [ngb@bylands.dur.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu [05:13] hoi bitfoo [05:13] oi [05:13] they do a full distro release every 6 months too i think [05:14] so i finally scrounged up another harddrive and got ubuntu installed on an old seagate medalist 3221 3.2 gigger [05:14] when it boots, it boots up into a black screen [05:14] man :| [05:15] this is the hottest girl ever :| [05:15] http://www.duke.edu/~peg2/sohot.jpg [05:15] bitfoo i'm rebooting now anyhow [05:15] Scooter: Ahh, well that's good...I know Debian's currently considering a 12-18 month release cycle, that's still a bit long for stable...unfortunately they don't do security tracking for testing, so although it's more up to date, it isn't considered secure [05:15] bitfoo - whos that? [05:15] your gf? [05:16] no :/ === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [05:16] I think they release security patches as soon as they fix hole, just do apt-get dist upgrade often to stay on top [05:16] just some girl :oD [05:16] is anyone else finding the ubuntu servers slow? [05:17] i find her hot [05:17] downloading via apt-get at 3151B/s [05:17] its preffereed to use a mirror Peter [05:17] -e there === marioch_ [~marioch@140.212.205.41] has joined #ubuntu [05:17] Scooter: Ahh, yes...that's probably the best idea === marioch_ [~marioch@140.212.205.41] has left #ubuntu ["Client] [05:17] Peter: Not here, seems pretty fast for me === mario [~mario@200.54.6.20] has joined #ubuntu [05:18] bitfoo: i like redheads with green eyes :) not many about sadly === kolya [ngb@bylands.dur.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu [05:18] no unfortunately not :| [05:18] if i upgrade from warthog to hedgehog - do i need to restart? === Amaranth [Amaranth@amaranth.user] has joined #ubuntu [05:19] maybe in irishland [05:19] taste is like an arse, its divided [05:19] yes re-boot [05:19] ? === warty [~warty@129.10.132.166] has joined #ubuntu [05:19] peter - reboot he meant [05:19] *g* [05:19] ok :) [05:20] oh heh [05:20] bitfoo still doesn'T work. [05:20] :| [05:20] all i have to say is that the gnoppix live cd (w/ Ubuntu) is amazing === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [05:20] man... I am still impressed of those xorg shaddows running nicely even though the dri wont do as I want it to [05:21] shock: How did you get xorg running? Or did you upgrade to Hoary for it [05:21] whats command to unzi .bz2 tar xzf ? 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[05:24] where I work doesn't allow BitTorrent *cry* [05:24] does anyone know any facts about FC3's support for sucky hardware like "vigor 510 USB Wlan" or "Teledat 120 USB ISDN Card" ? [05:24] (I wanted to install a xine-based totem, but it said that it would remove ubuntu-base if I did) [05:24] cause ubuntu shurely wont like those [05:24] Peter yes. wiki on ubuntulinux.org === kolya [ngb@bylands.dur.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [05:24] pure-ftpd, where is the config-files?? [05:24] (If I get my hands on the salesman who sold this to my GF I'll strangle him with an usb cable!!!!) [05:24] anyone know why when i boot after install i just get a blank screen after it's done loading? [05:25] or does it just not like my vidcard [05:25] probably cisdcard... maybe reconfigure X ? === jinty [~jinty@212.145.79.86] has joined #ubuntu [05:26] Prower, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=12637&highlight=ubuntu-base === rotundo [~charles@65.202.41.98] has joined #ubuntu [05:26] can i make crossover office run an exe... that is not an installer [05:26] Prower, Looks like the answer is that it isn't anything to worry about. I think that's what I was told before as well, I just wanted to be sure. 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[05:38] kiddies just suck [05:38] -f780:#ubuntu- ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZABCDEFGHIJKLMNOP [05:38] <_FR0D0> I have a problem installing postgresl-dev, it barks with postgresql-dev: Depends: libssl-dev but it is not going to be installed === laaa [~mWa@dsl-96-253.br.tiscali.no] has joined #ubuntu === Littlechand [~chand@ABordeaux-251-1-7-236.w82-125.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu [05:38] gentoeers' counter-attack [05:38] wat the fuck [05:38] Where an OP????????? === mode/#ubuntu [+o daniels] by ChanServ [05:38] That wasn't nice. Now I have a lot of windows to close :/ === mode/#ubuntu [+i] by daniels [05:38] Where an OP????????? [05:38] Where an OP????????? === mode/#ubuntu [+m] by daniels [05:38] linuxboy: you're only making it worse [05:39] we'll just let it sit here for a while until it subsides === daniels sighs. === mode/#ubuntu [+o jdub] by ChanServ [05:39] -ChanServ:#ubuntu- Inviting thom === thom [~thom@amnesiac.heapspace.net] has joined #ubuntu === mode/#ubuntu [+o thom] by ChanServ === mode/#ubuntu [-i] by daniels === laaa [~mWa@dsl-96-253.br.tiscali.no] has joined #ubuntu === laaa [~mWa@dsl-96-253.br.tiscali.no] has left #ubuntu [] === mode/#ubuntu [-m] by daniels [05:41] where abouts is the aptget mirror list on the wiki === slicslak [~slicslak@S01060050bf73737f.ed.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:41] mmm === trygvebw [~trygvebw@217-189-68.adsl.tele2.no] has joined #ubuntu === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [05:41] I made a friend because of the flood ;) [05:41] daniels: thanx man [05:41] Peter: hold on, let me grab it for you [05:42] are there mods here 24/7 + [05:42] ? [05:42] i had a friend once === kolya [ngb@bylands.dur.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu [05:42] linuxboy: why does that matter? [05:42] Peter: I think he's mad about the flooding [05:42] I think he's the one flooding [05:43] Peter: sorry -- firefox is being slow -- just go search the website for "mirror" -- it'll have a list [05:43] Peter: so the mods can help keep the chan from 'attack' [05:43] leet name, leet host, forum speak and all [05:43] Wondering why people flood this channel..... [05:43] mst: i think its you [05:43] oh, d'oh, thanks :) [05:43] linuxboy, you can think all you wish, it's not illegal [05:43] Peter: not a problem [05:43] guys, unless you have conclusive proof, please keep it off here [05:43] mst: i run ubuntu... why would i flood this chan? [05:43] mst: I think your baiting him [05:44] Thoght at least freenode must be free of kids [05:44] let's not flood the chan arguing about who's flooding, hey? :-) [05:44] thought* [05:44] linuxboy: because you want MORE PACKAGES ;) [05:44] thom: ok ;) [05:44] godsmoke: yip, you got it :) [05:44] can i just terminate an apt-get dist-upgrade whilst its getting the files, and it'll rollback to how it was? [05:44] if we're going to talk about flooding lets talk about the tsunami only plz [05:44] which reminds me.. the ISO is here, time to give it a run [05:44] ba-dung dah! [05:44] Peter, apt doesnt install anything, it merely gets stuff and calculates deps [05:44] Peter: yeah -- if it's only downloading, and hasn't installed -- it'll not upgrade them lster === bretzel [~bretzel@modemcable128.237-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has left #ubuntu [] [05:45] Hi, i've got a small problem in Ubuntu Warty. I was going to compile Beagle since it's not in any of the repositories, so i ran "./configure --prefix=/usr". But i get this error: checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables. Config.log says this: nasm: error: unrecognised option `-Q' [05:45] nasm: error: unrecognised option `-^@' [05:45] nasm: error: no input file specified. GCC, G++ and nasm is installed. Does anyone know what i do wrong? Thanks in advance. :) [05:45] mst: it's a wrapper for a lot of installing [05:45] godsmoke, dpkg :) [05:45] mst: right -- but many instances of dpkg are run inside of apt [05:45] so he could be 'running apt' and be installing [05:45] anyway [05:45] trygvebw: apt-get install build-essential [05:45] no worries [05:45] thom: merci :) [05:45] godsmoke, of course, but not during the retrieval phase [05:45] godsmoke: to add mirrors, do i just add them to the end of the file? === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [05:46] of the sources.list [05:46] btw is the bt tracker back up yet? [05:46] Peter: well ... you should just replace the old ones [05:46] not add them to the end [05:46] mst: yeah === orospakr [~orospakr@ip-164.81.126.206.dsl-cust.ca.inter.net] has joined #ubuntu === zAo^ [~zao@zAo.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu [05:46] thom: Still doesn't work :( [05:46] sweet [05:46] How can i figure out what the device name is for USB Headphones [05:46] Peter: sorry -- bbiab -- got new monitor arms shipped in [05:47] whats the thing i need to apt-get to play mp3s? mad something? [05:47] SackeR: that should be a usual alsa device - if you have driver support for it. [05:47] there's fraunhoffer issue in ubuntu? [05:48] In Dmesg it says it Found Logitech Usb headset === seb128 [~seb128@ANancy-151-1-50-223.w83-196.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu [05:48] Anyone? === bretzel [~bretzel@modemcable128.237-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu [05:49] trygvebw, nasm --version [05:49] just a guess [05:49] then gave it audio support etc.. Im trying to get teamspeak to use the headset but not other sounds [05:49] nasm: error: unrecognised option `--version' [05:49] weird... [05:49] Hi, I've got a flood that opened fukk of channels... [05:49] oops fukk: read full [05:49] I have tried reinstalling nasm [05:50] stat `which nasm` === dan_ [~dan@pix012-105.pix.wmich.edu] has joined #ubuntu [05:50] SackeR when you load snd-pcm-oss it should become available as a /dev/pcmX === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [05:50] SackeR: sorry dev/dsp [05:50] bretzel, solution: irssi [05:50] http://www.pastebin.com/234566 [05:51] stat `which nasm` ^ === Alessio [~Alessio@host249-5.pool8251.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu [05:51] hmpf [05:51] something is wrong up there... i honestly have NFI [05:52] does anyone know if there a repository with the updated version of zsnes ? (v. 1.42) [05:52] bretzel: just restart your IRC client === larf [larf@eris.keleos.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:52] re [05:52] hm... === L|nu}{ [~linux@ti112210a080-0678.bb.online.no] has joined #ubuntu === ephic [~ephic@68.184.7.52] has joined #ubuntu [05:53] what do i use to edit my x server? === froust [~liam@S0106000f6694d7bf.ed.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:53] linuxboy, I didnt ask you to /msg me so please refrain from doing so [05:53] I keep getting cron.daily messages telling me about dangling symlinks... any way i can fix these? [05:53] mst: its not illegal to msg [05:53] froust, see cron.daily [05:53] how would i edit x ? [05:53] i see the config file [05:53] linuxboy, it's not illegal to tell people to fuck off either but you don't see me doing that now do you [05:54] edit x? [05:54] ya [05:54] is there some command that will clean them out? or do i have to delete them manually? [05:54] the config [05:54] ephic, http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html [05:54] nano /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 [05:54] I believe it is a freenode guideline that you should ask before PMing someone. [05:54] k thanks === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [05:54] see im there [05:54] at that file [05:54] Amaranth, I believe it's common sense, apparently long forgotten [05:54] but how do i edit it [05:54] ephic: just write something :) [05:54] nano XF86Config-4 edits it [05:55] mst: lets both shut up and calm down... k? [05:55] if you are in that directory [05:55] linuxboy, I've shut up long time ago, I don't care, EOT [05:55] ah ok === FallenHitokiri [~Pharao@p3EE0AD71.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:55] froust, look at the cron output, figure out why you have these, clean them out or kill the script [05:56] hmm :| [05:56] i cant unrar anything :| [05:56] i use all powerful find(1) === piratePenguin [~piratepen@dialup0607.ts005.bmt.esat.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:56] mst: which brings me back to my original question, is there a command that will check/clean / for dangling symlinks, or should i just delete them by hand? (I have no idea why they are there) [05:56] anyone know if there is irda support in ubuntu? [05:57] there is [05:57] is there usb irda support? [05:57] froust, there is. You can. The question is whether it's something you really want to do. === skagmans [~Ni@g81217.upc-g.chello.nl] has joined #ubuntu [05:58] Anyone know a solution of my problem? [05:58] yo the update manager is HOT [05:58] its the new hotness [05:58] mst: I have no idea... I'm new to this. === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [05:59] froust, generally speaking you dont want anything going around and deleting stuff unsupervised [05:59] okay... that makes sense. [05:59] you need to be as evil as I am to do that and I've wiped off a major source tree accidentally a couple of weeks ago.. not a good idea. [06:01] hmm, its a bit irritating that the when gnome asks me to anter my password (gksudo?) realplayer stops playing. Im listening to radio and playing abit with the computer. I dont understand why realplayer has to stop playing radio while i enter the password. [06:01] hehe [06:01] they still use that thing?! [06:02] i dont understand how if i extract something in a folder in gnome, it doesnt auto matically refresh and show up [06:02] why i gotta close and reopen the folder :| === larf [larf@eris.keleos.net] has left #ubuntu [] [06:02] bitfoo: ctrl+r would refresh it (tho they come up after a bit for me) === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [06:04] is ubuntu's server running very slow today? [06:04] i am thinking unrar is incompatible with hoary :| [06:04] kent: it's so for me too [06:05] sb end [06:05] do kernel headers = kernel? [06:06] Get, I'm changing to a mirror. It will solve it. [06:06] kent: how do you do that? [06:06] tritium: i get the ' package architecture (i386) does not match system (amd64) [06:06] when i try and install the i386 kernel. === tezem [~tezem@chello213047234226.tirol.surfer.at] has joined #ubuntu [06:07] Get, well.. if you use synaptic, you can go to "repositories" in the menu and enter an adress of a mirror instead of Hoary. I think there is a list of mirrors on ubuntus homepage, and hopefully some help on how to change it. === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [06:08] Get, I used to have about 200kb/s from ubuntus server, now i got about 8kb/s. The mirror from sweden gave me about 200 kb/s again :) === Prower [~Prower@wiley-287-16295.roadrunner.nf.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:08] Hello :> For anyone running Hoary, what versions of KDE and Windowmaker are available in the repository? [06:08] Peter, okay, I think it's time to find another amd64 user, which I'm not. sorry... [06:08] is ubuntu's repositories really slow now ? [06:08] np === ephic [~ephic@68.184.7.52] has joined #ubuntu [06:09] kent: can you send me the adress to the swedish mirror? [06:09] mikael yes [06:09] has anyone attempted to install the newest nvidia drivers for linux? [06:09] Prower: KDE 3.3.2 is available [06:09] kent, send it to me to ;> [06:10] can't someone put something in the topic that tells to use mirrors if archive.ubuntu.com is slow? [06:10] Riddell: Ahh, well that's great news :> Any idea about Windowmaker? === scoon [~scoon@dsl092-234-243.phl1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:10] see when i edit x .. i renamed the device loader, which was nv, to nvidia, and of course x fails because i have to isntall the drivers after it gives me bash.. well i run the script to install nvidia, and it says cant find kernel-source..then it says cant find kernel tree.. and that i can point to it during execution of the shell script.. [06:10] mikael, quitte try the torrents [06:10] the tracker seems to be working fine now [06:10] Prower: no idea [06:10] anyone know what to point to for the ubuntu kernel? [06:11] mikael, wait a second. [06:11] torrents? I need a repository not isos [06:11] Riddell: Ahh, okay...thanks [06:11] ephic, install kernel-headers [06:11] can i do that through synaptic? [06:11] ephic, just make certain that the headers match your running kernel === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [06:11] Riddel: KDE-3.3.2 AVAIL ? in hoary only? [06:11] ephic, yes. [06:11] mikael, oh, sorry, thought you wanted the isos [06:11] ah ok. [06:11] k [06:11] ephic, you can get the running kernel version with this uname -a [06:11] kent, i found the mirror page [06:11] mikael, use this one, (I have the sections main, universe, multiverse and restricted) http://ftp.acc.umu.se/mirror/ubuntu/ === thom [~thom@amnesiac.heapspace.net] has left #ubuntu [] [06:12] ephic, and then go to nvidia and get the README for the installer. Look at the --advanced option. [06:13] ephic, you don't like the ubuntu-provided nvidia modules? [06:13] Oh my: Default Ubuntu setup doesn't provides Digital camera facilities ? [06:13] sure it does [06:13] plug in your camera [06:13] Linux Kernel Headers for development [06:13] This package provides headers from the Linux kernel. These headers [06:13] are used by the installed headers for GNU glibc and other system libraries. [06:13] see what happens on screen :) [06:13] thats all im finding. [06:13] thats for programming. [06:13] ephic, no. [06:14] ephic, read the first line you pasted. [06:14] ephic, sorry, read the second line [06:14] lol i was about to say [06:14] ah ok [06:14] bretzel: yes [06:14] how do i specify which kernel i have? [06:14] of course it does :P [06:14] ephic, the thing you need to understand here is that "for development" does NOT necessarily mean programming [06:15] ephic, but compiling. [06:15] ah i see [06:15] so i just compile this? [06:15] ephic, so... you can compile programs that you write (development) or software that you download. [06:15] ah i see. [06:15] ephic, the installer does that for you. [06:15] Riddel: ah! gtkam can detect my camera - even manually choosing it... [06:15] oops read cannot! [06:15] detect === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [06:16] oh so i cant compile anything unless i download the headers??? [06:16] ephic, i am not going to say that becuase I am not 100% certain. [06:16] ya cause i think gcc compiles [06:16] i couldnt get c++ to compile on here. [06:16] The connetor is USB [06:16] but ah well. [06:16] ok the headers are now install, should nvidia software pick up my kernel now? [06:17] er install*ed [06:17] ephic, try and see. [06:17] alrighty. [06:17] brb [06:18] tritium, i have tried to use the nvidia deb's but never have any luck. [06:18] tritium, the installer just always works for me. [06:18] scoon, they work like a charm === topyli [~juha@dsl-hkigw3pa5.dial.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu [06:19] tritium, i must admit that i roll my own kernel rather frequently. [06:19] tritium, so i never seem to be able to use them. [06:19] did ephic prefer to compile the new drivers? === gruad [~guenter@pD9ED415C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu === maskie [~maskie@196-30-108-180.uudial.uunet.co.za] has joined #ubuntu [06:20] tritium, ephic could not get the deb's to work. === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [06:20] i see === bretzel [~bretzel@modemcable128.237-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has left #ubuntu [] [06:20] can anyone recommend a gtk based runlevel editor === thrashbarg [~thrashbar@CPE-144-137-219-125.sa.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [06:21] morning all === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu === t31 [~t31@chello084010094087.chello.pl] has joined #ubuntu [06:25] ok. i'll apt-get install --reinstall my whole system now. maybe there is still something from sid left that prevents gvm from working properly. [06:25] but i doubt it [06:25] hi, i have no launcher bars, someone knows how to get them back? === RU63 [~RU63@i-83-67-28-146.freedom2surf.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:26] did you delete them or is gnome-panel not running === Hwolf [~hidde@136.122.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:27] PANNIC!!! i just did a: sudo apt-get upgrade... and now internet is now working on laptop === mxpxpod [~bryan@208.252.112.24] has joined #ubuntu [06:27] that is a bad thing RU? [06:27] yes [06:27] why? [06:27] is it not working [06:28] oh, it's not working.... [06:28] no [06:28] oops.. typo [06:28] heh === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [06:28] t31 in a terminal: killall gnome-panel&&gnome-panel&disown [06:28] when i go into network... and try to activate the connections.. it unchecls === housetier_ [~housetier@dsl-084-056-153-006.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:29] RU63: how do you "go into network"? the gnome network tool? [06:30] topyli:yes [06:30] quitte:doesnt work :P [06:30] I'm having major dependency problems with the openoffice files, can anyone assist? [06:30] RU63: do you see your devices there, and do they look ok? === piratePenguin [~piratepen@dialup0607.ts005.bmt.esat.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:31] topyli: it is working now... weird.. i just rebooted again.. and it worked.. [06:32] RU63: hehe. ye olde microsoft "reboot" trick :) [06:32] topyli: thanks for taking the time to think about it :) [06:32] Whenever my box starts, my eth0 is inactive by default.. How can i change this? === dbt`veritas [~veritascs@209.137.254.177] has joined #ubuntu === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu === mxpxpod [~bryan@mxpxpod.user] has joined #ubuntu [06:33] froust: computer -> system config -> networking [06:33] Hi, I installed ubuntu last night. I've got ubuntu and windows on the same hd and I think I've got the grub file wrong. [06:33] froust: then click the eth0 properties... and click the box [06:33] froust: or look at /etc/network/interfaces [06:34] I know that I cna bring it up that way, but I want to make it the default [06:34] When i try and boot into windows it just sits there(grub is sending it to (hd0,0)) [06:34] froust: in the interfaces file, you must have the "auto" option [06:34] froust: properties > activate on startup [06:34] froust: click the box that says, enable at startup [06:34] froust: i think others are giving an easier way :) [06:35] topyli: ahh thanks for that.. i prefer to do things behind the scene === seba [~seba@200.120.124.221] has joined #ubuntu [06:35] so just add "auto eth0" to my /etc/network/interfaces [06:35] <_FR0D0> I have a problem installing postgresl-dev, it barks with postgresql-dev: Depends: libssl-dev but it is not going to be installed [06:35] froust: yes [06:35] <_FR0D0> any idea? [06:35] topyli: thanks :) === tezem [~tezem@chello213047234226.tirol.surfer.at] has joined #ubuntu [06:35] froust: here's mine: [06:36] auto eth0 [06:36] iface eth0 inet dhcp [06:36] name Internet [06:36] plain and simple [06:36] if you use dhcp [06:36] that loks like mine, without the auto bit... it used to be auto... thanks [06:37] looks, too. === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu === topyli wonders if that counted as flooding :) === bj_ [~bj@ool-4352a84b.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu === darksatanic [~hugo@81-5-136-19.dsl.eclipse.net.uk] has joined #ubuntu === IorGie [~bert@asgard.adsl.utwente.nl] has joined #ubuntu === netmonk [~~@nat-18.c0msys.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:38] hello... can somebody help this newbie? [06:38] IorGie: what's wrong? [06:38] it's weekend again. i wonder if i should upgrade [06:39] Just expericing my first hours of linus/ubuntu. Installations was no problem. [06:39] But I can not get my monitor to a normal resolution/refresh rata. === Hwolf [~hidde@136.122.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:40] IorGie: are you using xorg or xfree86? [06:40] its now 1200*1024@60 Hz but i would prefer 75Hz or 1024*786@85Hz === mikael [~mikael@h6n2fls302o1120.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu [06:40] just the standard Ubunto installation. Were can i find out? === vtg [~vtg@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [06:41] IorGie: sudo X -version [06:41] Were do i find if I have xorg or Xfree86? [06:42] Xfree86 it is... [06:42] running a Ati video card btw.... [06:42] Ubuntu doesn't put the grub.conf file in /etc? [06:42] dbt`veritas, it's menu.lst in /boot/grub [06:43] ok, thanks [06:44] I searched the FAQ's and howto's but nothing about refresh rates :( [06:44] IorGie: you might try a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [06:44] (sudo in front of that) [06:44] IorGie try xf86config, but backup /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 === ubhuti [~blootbot@syr-69-201-15-107.twcny.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu === bam [brad@bam.n8qq.com] has joined #ubuntu [06:45] i haven't screwed with xfree muhc === TreadingSoftly [~treadings@82.152.246.197] has joined #ubuntu === rob__ [~rob@208.49.141.18] has joined #ubuntu === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [06:45] frouts/trashbarg: step by step please... [06:46] go with thrashbarg... i haven't had much experience in xfree86 [06:46] i did add the good resolutions while installing. But nothing was asked for the refresh rates. === iRocha [~hrocha@194.117.20.168] has joined #ubuntu [06:46] try sudo xf86config [06:46] Hello === sid77 [~sid77@ppp-198-139.30-151.libero.it] has joined #ubuntu [06:47] hi [06:47] A friend of mine tried to install ubuntu but the instalation says that it doesn't find the cdrom [06:47] IorGie: are you in X now? if so, this might get difficult :) [06:47] lol [06:48] Do you know what's happening? [06:48] the live cd runs perfectly [06:48] Hwolf: what's up? [06:48] trashbarg: I made a backup of the config file... [06:48] 'woah mirror is very slow ? [06:48] iorgie tHrashbarg... [06:49] iRocha: i've heard that before, don't know what's wrong with the installer. the live cd is a totally different system === Pozac [~Tabersvin@0x535ca783.esnxx5.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu [06:49] topyli, he is saying that mandrake can't install too [06:49] topyli: If you mean Am a running in a graphical mode: yes [06:49] haggai: massive errors on my hoary system [06:49] Maybe because it's a combo dvd/cdrw drive? === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [06:50] iRocha: could be a kernel problem [06:50] sorry. thrashbarg it is... [06:50] Hwolf what errors? [06:50] IorGie: if you reconfigure X, you'll have to restart it. you'd be better off running this irc session in a console [06:50] quitte: I/O errors running apt === DAC1138 [~dave@24-56-174-97.co.warpdriveonline.com] has joined #ubuntu [06:51] Hwolf: hdd is dying. make a backup [06:51] thrashbarg: I am getting questions about my mouse. Use leave to deafault? [06:51] im having another apt-get problem. i reinstalled ubuntu, and this time i told it to install security updates, and now apt-get wont work [06:51] iorgie: yeah it should be /dev/mouse which is the default [06:52] i did apt-get update, and it got all the mirrors and repos and stuff, but i cant apt-cache or apt-get anything [06:52] DAC1138, what error do you get? [06:52] iorgie: as far as i know, i'm kinda new to the ubuntu distro :P [06:52] quitte: are you sure about that? [06:52] E: couldnf find package "packagename" [06:52] ive tried a variety of program i know are in the apt-get database === martinhj [~martinhj@host-81-191-103-214.bluecom.no] has joined #ubuntu [06:53] Hwolf no -might be a kernel bug. but i'm sure making a backup i a very wise decision in your situation [06:53] apt-cache search doesnt provide any output, just sticks me back at a new command line === piratePenguin [~piratepen@dialup0607.ts005.bmt.esat.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:54] Hwolf or your controller being broken. anyhow io errors almost always fuck your filesystem over time. make a backup. or better have one. [06:54] thrashbarg: quote: Do you want to select additional XKB options (group switcher, [06:54] group indicator, etc.)? [06:54] y/n? === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [06:54] nope [06:54] i never do [06:54] i thought when it downloaded security updates, it uncommented the sources.lst for apt-get === IrIT [~seje@62.61.133.122.generic-hostname.arrownet.dk] has joined #ubuntu [06:55] ALSA lib pcm_hw.c:1155:(snd_pcm_hw_open) open /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p failed: <-- Why do i get this error when i'm trying to play music with arts in xmms? [06:55] apparently not. i had to uncomment the lines again. it was confusing because they were all uncommented except one source [06:55] DAC1138 that's what should have happened, yes. [06:56] ok, i got it, but i dont see the kernel source for 2.6.8 kernel with debian updates. what were you guys telling me about the other day about building a kernel "the debian way"? [06:56] IrIT maybe you didn'T configure xmms to use arts? [06:56] thrashbarg: Yup I go get a question about the refresh rate right now. I'll have to look up the correct information @ iiyama.com. Thanks for so far! [06:56] DAC1138, is it working for you now? [06:56] tritium, apt is, yeah. === sandman82 [~matt@dhcp065-024-095-073.columbus.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [06:56] DAC1138, http://www.holtmann.org/linux/kernel/debian.html [06:56] DAC1138: kernel-image in debian is called linux-image in ubuntu [06:57] and kernel-source is linux-source [06:57] quitte, i have selected arts in xmms [06:57] DAC1138, do you really need to build your own kernel? [06:57] tritium, yes [06:57] DAC1138, how come ? [06:58] It's because i have read on Teamspeaks server, that in order to have Enemy Territory and another program like xmms, you have to use arts both places [06:58] "linux-tree-2.6.8.1"? [06:58] Is there a GNU Java Virtual Machine? So I can run Java apps [06:58] i'm having trouble with ipv6 and need to disable it, i've already commented/uncommented from /etc/modprobe.d/aliases and /etc/modutils/aliases and firefox about:config. is there a third place where i need to disable it [06:58] IrIT: sounds to me more like you selected alsa [06:58] linux-source, DAC1138 === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [06:58] DAC1138: not the tree. you need the source [06:58] tritium, not necesarily, i just need the source to the current running kernel to install the xserver, almost like the way vmware does it [06:58] no [06:58] okay [06:58] DAC1138, oh, are you the one who was going to install a commercial X server? [06:58] it's time to burn the ISO [06:59] HERETIC! :) [06:59] tritium, yeah [06:59] DAC1138, you might only need the linux-headers [06:59] tritium, im going to try it once again on debian [06:59] it's a bit hard to translate from danish, but in xmms options in outdata-model i have choose alsa, oss esound and arts. It works finde with esound and alsa, but not with arts [06:59] *i can choose [06:59] piratePenguin, there are free Java platforms; gcj, kaffe, sablevm etc; the class libraries typically don't include everything you might want, namely awt/swing (though there is swingwt nowadays, needs some integrating...) [06:59] do you... HAVE artsd? [07:00] DAC1138, get the linux-headers that match your kernel version, then [07:00] tritium, the thing is, theres a proprietary kernel driver that comes with the xserver, called xsvc, and when you make it, it makes kernel modules based on the current kernel [07:00] DAC1138, that's fine [07:00] yes, i have: 'sudo apt-get install arts, and then apt-get install xmms-arts [07:00] but should i start arts in a special way? [07:00] mjr: so what should I do to get java apps working? install all that stuff, or use the Sun VM ? [07:00] tritium, so what are the headers? [07:01] tritium, i mean, what exactly are headers, what are they and what do they do? [07:01] Does anyone here have windows on (hd0,0) and ubuntu on (hd0,1)? [07:01] DAC1138, they'll let you compile things like kernel modules, for one thing [07:01] nope sorry dbt`truth [07:02] tritium, yeah. im downloading them now. [07:02] ALSA lib pcm_hw.c:1155:(snd_pcm_hw_open) open /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p failed: <-- After that i get in danish, that the ressource is busy [07:02] I can't get windows to boot again. [07:02] dbt`veritas, yay [07:02] dbt`veritas, wait, is that a bad thing? === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [07:02] piratePenguin, practically speaking, if you want random GUI java apps to work, it's Sun for now [07:02] dbt`veritas: i have windows on (hd0,0) and linux on later partitions... why can't you get into windows? [07:02] DAC1138: Yes, I sadly still need windows for some stuff. [07:03] mjr: k .. thanks === warty [~warty@136.122.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu === warty is now known as Hwolf [07:03] dbt`veritas, after you edited /boot/grub/menu.lst, did you "update-grub" ? [07:03] froust: I think I've got grub setup wrong. === Kokey [~ubunturer@201.137.168.75] has joined #ubuntu [07:03] ahhh.. .it's not in your menu? [07:03] lol. im joking. when i erased windows, i still had lots of apps that were windows only, i just dumped them anyway [07:03] tritium: i did not. yes its in my menu === Olivier_54 [~olivier@dyn-83-152-195-124.ppp.tiscali.fr] has joined #ubuntu [07:03] tritium: how do i update grub [07:04] i needed adobe premiere for video editing, all the windows media codecs and stuff to compress my movies i made, but i made the leap to linux. im happy i did it [07:04] dbt`veritas, "sudo update-grub" [07:04] DAC1138 the worst is when you have hardware that wont work with linux [07:04] tritium: ok, ill try that [07:04] ok [07:04] rob__, i know. im dealing with a graphics card now, lol. when we were on dialup, i had a winmodem, so that was another issue i dealt with [07:05] eeew modems in linux, thank god I have never had to deal with that oone [07:05] rob__: yeah i have issues with acpi and winmodem on laptop, using apm is ok === Xirdneh [~idocode@201.129.106.97] has joined #ubuntu [07:05] rob__, even worse, it was AOL dialup === xvers [xvers@217sdl30m8.codetel.net.do] has joined #UBUNTU [07:06] DAC1138 LOL [07:06] I didnt know they made modems :] [07:06] i was practically begging my parents to get a local service so i could use my dads pcmcia modem in linux and use the kde dialup program [07:06] rob__, it was AOL as the ISP [07:06] hey...can anyone tell me how to download individual packages? === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [07:07] xvers, source packages or deb packages? [07:08] well.. heres my prob, i have a via vt6122 nic and while compiling it gives me this error: makefile:16 : *** linux kernel source not found. Stop === erik [~erik@66.252.41.226] has joined #ubuntu [07:08] /topic/topic [07:08] er [07:08] i cant go online...im on another computer [07:08] hey, I'm using hoary-amd64 and when I run evolution I get: Floating point exception [07:09] me too [07:09] its a filed but [07:09] ok, good [07:09] bug [07:09] can anyone help me? [07:09] is there an ubuntu bugzilla? [07:09] xvers, ah, kernel source not found. im dealing with a similar problem [07:09] my advice is to get thunderbird for now OF COURSE SILLY [07:09] xvers, tritium told me to get the kernel-headers, which im doing now [07:09] you can find a link to ubuntu buzilla on the ubuntu homepage [07:10] yep, just found it [07:10] DAc, do u have any idea how to solve it? === ogra [~ogra@pD95F87D9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:10] i cant get them through apt-get though, i cant go online [07:10] xvers, kernel-headers-2.6.8.1-3-386 i think it is. apt-get that package and try it again, maybe it will work after you do that. i dont know for sure, because im still downloading the headers === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [07:11] DAC, i cant go online [07:11] xvers, sux. thats why i wish ubuntu would include the kernel source and headers with its distro, in cases like this [07:11] my nic is not installed [07:12] DAC, is there any way i could download the packages, then use apt-get to install them offline? [07:12] no, but you can use dpkg === CerBerO [~CerBerO@CM128-inde0-47-138.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:12] dpkg -i foo.deb [07:12] I hope they fix mono soon for those of us with the whoary hedgehog [07:12] where do i download the .deb s ? [07:13] xvers, what Erik said, but you need to find the .deb files [07:13] archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary [07:13] or warty [07:13] thanks.. ill try it [07:13] xvers copying the debs to var/cache/apt/archives is possible. [07:13] actually, I lied [07:13] http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/ [07:13] that's where the actual debs are [07:14] xvers or you could find out how to use dpkg-scanpackages to make a Packages file of your downloaded debs to use with apt [07:14] quitte: i think that's a little much :p [07:14] im new at this [07:14] erik i think it'S well documented :/ [07:15] any easier way? === punkrockguy318 [~lukas@pcp02403054pcs.brdgtn01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:15] xvers yes - hook your box to the net [07:15] i think i am going to have to get a 56k === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [07:15] xvers: grab the deb from /pool and dpkg -i it. [07:15] dpkg-scanpackages, i shall investigate this quitte [07:15] what packages do i need to install to be able to start compiling stuff? [07:15] is it OK to use RPMs in ubuntu? [07:15] piratePenguin: no === maciek[PL] [~maciek@server.rene.com.pl] has joined #ubuntu [07:16] piratePenguin: You want RPM hell? [07:16] nope, but I want java [07:16] and... [07:16] ohh. [07:16] https://sdlcweb1a.sun.com/ECom/EComActionServlet/LegalPage:~:com.sun.sunit.sdlc.content.LegalWebPageInfo;jsessionid=BF4672E31458ED0B63F32ECFDCEA83A4;jsessionid=BF4672E31458ED0B63F32ECFDCEA83A4 [07:16] punkrockguy318, build-essential (or something like that..) [07:16] there is a manual about that. in the ubuntu wiki [07:16] go to RestrictedFormats on the wiki [07:16] it'll tell you about installing java [07:17] k... thankis [07:17] where can I find alist of packages that are in "universal"? [07:17] ok erik [07:17] kent, wow! thanks, that's just what I wanted === xvers [xvers@217sdl30m8.codetel.net.do] has left #UBUNTU [] [07:17] kokey: synaptic? [07:17] tritium, so in theory, after i apt-get the headers, i should be able to install the xsvc module? [07:17] piratePenguin: then use a free jre and tell the developers what doesn'T work. they *want* feedback and aren'T receiving enough to make free jres work === mirak [~mirak@AAubervilliers-152-1-17-110.w82-121.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu [07:18] hmm i got the slight feeling i'm a little wrong here preaching freedom [07:18] punkrockguy318, but to compile things like gnome programs, you will need the development packages for gnome and other packages aswell, but you can fetch them as needed. the configure-scripts usually tells you if you are missing something. [07:18] rob__, I want to know what packages are in "universal", just to know, I was thinking in some url where can i find this === _Kaisen [~Kaisen@209.13.206.237] has joined #ubuntu [07:19] <_Kaisen> Hola [07:19] oh well fallow the link that are in /etc/apt/source [07:19] <_Kaisen> alguien habla espaol === xvers [xvers@217sdl30m8.codetel.net.do] has joined #ubuntu === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [07:19] http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ is where it is [07:19] oh! that's true... thanks! === cowbud [~Jamius@4.13.23.236] has joined #ubuntu [07:20] Kokey download the Packages.gz [07:20] kent, okay [07:20] Konkey: np === seb128 [~seb128@ANancy-151-1-50-223.w83-196.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu === IorGie [~bert@asgard.adsl.utwente.nl] has left #ubuntu [] [07:23] hey how do you make a dirrect copy of a cd in nautilous? is it possible? [07:23] tritium, i got an error when building xsvc [07:23] i need to download the kernel headers... is this the right package? kernel-source-2.6.8_2.6.8-7_all.deb === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [07:24] xvers, linux-headers-2.6.8.1-3-386 [07:24] DAC1138, sorry, I was away. === Nafallo [nafallo@h123n3c1o1027.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu [07:24] rob__: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=cdimage.iso [07:24] xvers, oh wait, you're on hoary? [07:24] What did it say? [07:24] <_Kaisen> How do you configure ubuntu for using a PDA? [07:24] tritium, want me to just private message the error, its pretty big [07:25] in universe? [07:25] xvers, you want kernel-headers- instead [07:25] xvers, no, that should be in main [07:25] guys [07:25] thrashbarg, i guess he asked about how to do it in nautilus, not in a terminal. :( [07:25] thrshbarg: its not possible in nautilous? does this work from one cdrom to another? [07:25] I am thoroughly impressed with the installation process [07:25] ./Build all [07:25] make[1] : Entering directory `/usr/src/xig/xsvc/xsvc-kbuild' [07:25] ./MAKE [07:25] ## created /lib/modules/2.6.8.1-3-386/extra [07:25] /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.8.1-3-386/scripts/gcc-version.sh: line 1: gcc: command not found [07:26] /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.8.1-3-386/scripts/gcc-version.sh: line 1: gcc: command not found [07:26] make[2] : Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.8.1-3-386' [07:26] CC [M] /usr/src/xig/xsvc/xsvc-kbuild/xsvc_linux.o [07:26] /bin/sh: line 1: gcc: command not found [07:26] rob__ no idea with nautilus, sorry... [07:26] make[3] : *** [/usr/src/xig/xsvc/xsvc-kbuild/xsvc_linux.o] Error 127 [07:26] a working linux box in 20 minutes === nasdaq7 [~sdfsdfs@tkp-ip-nas-1-p54.telkom-ipnet.co.za] has joined #ubuntu [07:26] make[2] : *** [_module_/usr/src/xig/xsvc/xsvc-kbuild] Error 2 [07:26] kickass [07:26] make[2] : Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.8.1-3-386' [07:26] make[1] : *** [all] Error 2 [07:26] make[1] : Leaving directory `/usr/src/xig/xsvc/xsvc-kbuild' [07:26] DAC1138, don't paste here [07:26] make: *** [all] Error 2 [07:26] " [07:26] STOP PASTING DOLT [07:26] I'll help you outside [07:26] im hoping that was all in a private window === nasdaq7 [~sdfsdfs@tkp-ip-nas-1-p54.telkom-ipnet.co.za] has left #ubuntu [] [07:26] mst, accident, dang [07:26] mst, i did /msg tritium and pasted it, i didnt know it would react like that [07:26] rob__, try using k3b, perhaps it can do that? === z1nOnly [~nick@adsl-068-016-133-022.sip.msy.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:27] mst, AND STOP YELLING DOLT === Sye [~Sye@cpe-066-061-080-233.midsouth.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu === mst sighs [07:27] kent: thanks but KDE wont install on my sistem, (Broken packages or some such weird error), thus I can install it even if I wanted to (which i really dont care about KDE in the first place) === IorGie [~bert@asgard.adsl.utwente.nl] has joined #ubuntu === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [07:28] kent: k3b is an excelent program though and most certainatly can do that [07:29] rob__: what doesn't install and what system are you using? [07:29] rob__, are you running Hoary (the unstable branch)? if so, try graveman. It seems like it can duplicate cd's and such things.. [07:30] yes [07:30] both: running hoary [07:30] rob__, then graveman can duplicate from cd to iso. i just checked now. [07:31] rob__, although it might be so that it has to be run as root (gksudo), becaus it dont want to see my cd-rw when i run it as a normal user.. [07:31] rob__, graveman is installable from universe in Hoary i think, that must be where i got it ;) [07:31] kent: thanks I am installing it now === Prower [~Prower@wiley-287-16295.roadrunner.nf.net] has joined #ubuntu === [PervertedMonk] [Monk-Lazy@137.158.87.69] has joined #ubuntu === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [07:32] nautilus really should have this feature I think I should file it as an upgrade bug or something [07:33] rob__: good feature for gnome 2.10 :) [07:34] rob__, to copy a singla data-session from a cd to an iso should be working yes. But i guess its more complicated for cd's with other stuff on them, such as audio, etc. === will [~will@1-1-7-19a.ars.sth.bostream.se] has joined #ubuntu [07:34] thrashbarg: I heard they used to have the features to create music CDs with it but they took them out to make a simpler environment (its possible this is hersay) === jmit [~jmit@dsl-082-083-192-005.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:35] kent: thats the idea === jmit [~jmit@dsl-082-083-192-005.arcor-ip.net] has left #ubuntu [] [07:35] I can't get windows to boot. Grub is setup correct(I thin), the windows boot is set to goto (hd0,0) and fdisk shows that hte windows partition is there on hte first partition for /dev/hda [07:35] I'm unsure what to do now [07:36] hi does anyone know how to get the tv output working in ubuntu on a geforce card? [07:36] rob__, some way of just selecting the cd-drive in the Computer folder, and be able to choose "copy to iso", or such would be cool. === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [07:36] yah. that would be nice. === no0tic [~no0tic@host83-163.pool8249.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu [07:37] still an extra proccess thats knind of unnesseacy when copying cds though. === zeedo [~notroot@www.bsrf.org.uk] has joined #ubuntu === im_ka [~knoppix@chello080109076233.14.15.vie.surfer.at] has joined #ubuntu [07:38] do you need to be root to use graveman? [07:38] hi [07:38] rob__, no === bretzel [~bretzel@modemcable128.237-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu [07:38] cool thanks [07:39] nice program [07:39] what are the advantages of setting up a gateway machine instead of having a simple router? i have a machine laying around === hypn0 [~chatzilla@host81-7-55-138.surfport24.v21.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [07:39] Hi again :-) [07:40] im_ka: i dont even know what a gateway machine is other than now i know it funcitions in the stead of a router [07:40] argh the security distro is slooooow [07:40] mst: a lot of people are downloading the live CD, apparently === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [07:40] and not enough of them using bittorrent ;-) [07:41] graveman isnt doing crap [07:41] rob__ internet -> pc -> hub -> some pc' s [07:41] What the weekly LiveCD of Hoary stands for ??? It is in fact an INSTALLATION CD.. But anyway I am getting it and try on my other cmputer ..:-) heehehehe [07:41] rob__, what do you meen? === mode/#ubuntu [+o mdz] by ChanServ [07:41] wait till you get slashdoted === ..[topic/#ubuntu:mdz] : Ubuntu Help | FAQ: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/ | Wiki: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/ | Lists: http://lists.ubuntu.com/ | Forum: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ | Guide: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/ [07:41] mst: we did [07:41] mdz, oh [07:41] http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/01/28/0029223&tid=190&tid=162&tid=106 [07:41] its said "graveman will be starting shortly" for like 3 min with no action === rcaskey_ [~rcaskey@cai17.music.uga.edu] has joined #ubuntu [07:42] cant open it, im still in console waiting for the security updates to finish [07:42] no wait it says "dubplication will be starting shortly" [07:42] it really shouldve been done in background.. [07:42] rob__, try starting it from a terminal and see if it complains about something. (i know it feels kind of stupid to do such things.. but it can help others,) === im_ka [~knoppix@chello080109076233.14.15.vie.surfer.at] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [07:42] it's just a copy of the live CD milestone release announcement [07:43] damn progam wont even quti [07:43] im going to have to force kill it [07:44] why does ubuntu spawn three terminals and do nothing on them? annoying when you shift the term left-right === DAC1138 [~dave@24-56-174-97.co.warpdriveonline.com] has joined #ubuntu === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [07:45] mdz, how long is the release cycle for livecd? [07:45] tritium, im so close, thanks again for the help. only thing now is it says "could not configure X server" and im working on that problem now [07:45] DAC1138, you're welcome [07:45] mst:? 3 terminals ? [07:45] mst: the same as the install. we produce daily snapshots, bi-weekly milestones, and 6-month stable releases [07:46] rob__, yeah, from 4 to 7 [07:46] rob__, I noticed that graveman uses cdrecord. Maybe the problem is that cdrecord can't find your burner? [07:46] mst: sounds like you saved your session with some terminals open [07:46] it isn't that way by default [07:46] you might try cdrecord -scanbus yourself, possibly with dev=ATA: or dev=ATAPI: [07:46] mdz, I didn't, it's first install, I havent even completed it yet. [07:46] tritium: its possible [07:47] mst: I'm not sure what you mean by terminals, if you haven't installed yet. you mean virtual consoles (ctrl+alt+f2 etc.)? [07:47] mdz, yes. X isnt even up yet. [07:48] hm.. inittab doesnt even provoke them, why did these VCs get initialized at all [07:48] mst: I don't understand what the problem is. can you explain " annoying when you shift the term left-right"? === svenl_ [~luther@AStrasbourg-251-1-65-234.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu [07:48] tritium: actually I can be faily shure that it does detect my cdroms because It is telling me the correct names of them and letting me chose which ones to use [07:48] rob__, okay [07:49] mdz, I switch the VCs using alt-left/alt right, expecting them to wrap after the last active console to the first one [07:49] finally the security updates are done === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [07:49] is there no way to manually build nvidia driver ?..it keeps telling me that the kernel header is wrong version..and I noitced that the 'installed' kernel from ubuntu install and the linux-source I got..are slightly off from each other ie: installed is: 2.6.8.1-3-386 BUT linux-source from synaptic is: 2.6.8.1-16.10..why do they not provide an exact match ??? [07:49] I see, so you're in the second stage of the install === CaptNemo [~CaptNemo@203.188.255.165] has joined #ubuntu [07:50] mdz, I still am, logged into another console ;) === mxpxpod is now known as mx|gone [07:50] tritium: AHH-HA! it did need to be started as sudo to work! [07:50] I didn't think it even spawned getty at that point; it probably shouldn't [07:50] mdz, is there KDE? [07:50] yes [07:50] mdz, it doesn't spawn getty. It just touches the VC so it remains open. [07:50] but GNOME is installed by default with the current CD images === rob__ is now glad he did not start bitching about how graveman sucks [07:51] mst: well, it must have spawned at least one, if you logged in :-) [07:52] I love the interface for this program, I wonder if they will consider adding this to ubuntu. It fills some very large gaps with the current setup, and the code is light [07:52] mdz, 3 ttys, 6 vcs, so 3 vcs have ttys attached and the other 3 just sit there [07:52] rob__, so graveman works for you now? it still dont see my cd-rw :( and i tried starting it with sudo. [07:53] dunno what would have opened them [07:53] mdz, annoying but not a factor [07:53] HOLY LAG [07:53] kent: bummer, does gnome see your cdroms in the Device Manger? [07:53] thats one long list of python libraries === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu === Chand [~chand@ABordeaux-251-1-7-236.w82-125.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu [07:53] wait... did it install emacs21 by default? [07:54] rob__, strange. I didn't need that. Is your user not in the "cdrom" group? [07:54] rob__, gnome finds my device. its just graveman. Perhaps something with the atapi-thing. [07:54] ok this is official I love this distro === smurfslayer is now known as smurfslay [07:54] tritium: my user is the default user, if Im not in the cdrom group its a bug [07:55] rob__, odd === slicslak [~slicslak@S01060050bf73737f.ed.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:55] i need some partitioning advice [07:55] hmmm [07:55] apparently gnome went a long way since i last used it 3 years ago [07:55] wonder if it sucks less now [07:56] kent: atapi? perhaps. i have to use the scsi simulator in K3B usually and but this one gave me no problems about it [07:56] i need some partitioning advice, plz pm me === andy_ [~andy@2001:618:400:9627:20c:6eff:fee1:a9da] has joined #ubuntu [07:57] oh sh** the buffer is at 0 percent and the program is frozen [07:57] i need some partitioning advice, plz pm me === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu === fwiffo [~fwiffo@cpe.atm2-0-1101155.0x503f8eca.bynxx8.customer.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu [07:58] CaptNemo: I used to be a distrowatch junky before ubuntu, fire away === mst [~akamai@line133-90.adsl.actcom.co.il] has joined #ubuntu === mst_ [~mst@line133-90.adsl.actcom.co.il] has joined #ubuntu [07:59] yeah [07:59] rocks, this does. [07:59] what you said\ === dbt`veritas [~veritascs@209.137.254.177] has joined #ubuntu === mst [~akamai@line133-90.adsl.actcom.co.il] has joined #ubuntu === jpedrosa is now known as jp_away === mon [~mon@co149259-a.almel1.ov.home.nl] has joined #ubuntu [08:00] however there's some minor suckage... i cant see jack shit in xchat with default color scheme === gabaug [~gabe@vpn82-7e-92-cd.near.uiuc.edu] has joined #ubuntu === dbt`veritas [~veritascs@209.137.254.177] has joined #ubuntu [08:00] and the terminal is black on white [08:00] change your nick mr livecd please [08:01] Hi, id like to chroot into my ubuntu partition, however i always get "permission denied". How's that possible? === yz [~yz@216.238.204.19] has joined #ubuntu [08:01] beats me [08:01] mon: and you trying to do it as a root? [08:01] damnit [08:02] xchat sux [08:02] Its funny that CaptNemo came in here asking questions about if he can ask a question and then did not ask the question === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [08:02] when i run cdrecord dev=ATA: -scanbus i get errors about /dev/hda is busy. My cd-rw is on /dev/hdc, and it seems cdrecord never gets to hdc.. what am i doing wrong? [08:02] thenuke: yes. from gentoo. it works when i try to chroot into another partition+distro... === hidde [~hidde@136.122.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu === encKe` [~encKe`@ppp-65-67-227-161.ded.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:02] mon: :I [08:02] kent: dont use scanbus with ide devices [08:03] yeeeeees [08:03] i get emacs [08:03] mon: well, if I were you, I would try to google 'chroot permission denied' [08:03] you might find similar cases with answers [08:03] kent: just use dev=/dev/hdc , you already know which device you want [08:04] thenuke: did, couldn't really find something relevant... it really seems ubuntu specific but i guess no one else has suffered this problem [08:04] ogra, well.. the thing is that i'm testing graveman, and it always fails to see my cd-rw. And it seems that it wants to use scanbus to check for drives (it should be using hal, *grr*). === xadas [~xadas@frydlantsko.net] has joined #ubuntu === klaym [~isom@a81-197-204-3.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu [08:04] mon: ok, that's weird then [08:04] mon: try also having a question in the forums? [08:05] thenuke: i know, that's what i'm here for :) [08:05] kent: let the scanning.... [08:05] kent: leave even.... [08:05] thenuke: good idea, i'll post there. === mikael [~mikael@h6n2fls302o1120.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu [08:05] I want my scanner to work [08:05] kent: hoary or warty ? [08:05] ogra, Hoary. [08:06] thenuke: oh, also i can't chroot to gentoo from within ubuntu. just to make thins more weird... (/bin/bash perm. denied) [08:06] kent: the package from universe ? [08:06] ergh [08:06] ogra, yes. [08:06] the music player just hung up on me [08:06] kent: see /usr/share/doc/graveman/README === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [08:06] Instead of using my scaner I have to take pictures of documents with my digital camera :-] [08:06] this is why i hate gnome [08:06] kent: look for NON SCSI EMULATION [08:06] Well... I think there are many like downloading Ubuntu LiveCD :-) The bans width has slowed drastically.... [08:06] mon: hm, I have had /dev/null : permission denied problems with chroot :) [08:07] thenuke: solved it? [08:07] kent: add the lines mentioned there [lecteur] etc === CerBerO [~CerBerO@CM128-inde0-47-138.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:07] ogra, found it. But thats a very strange way for graveman to treat users, haha, i never thought of looking there for this issue :) [08:07] that was corrected when I did umm.. what did I do.. .. umm.. I had to mount the partition which I wanted to chroot with -o bind option I guess [08:07] kent: cut off the comments.... [08:07] so you could try that too [08:07] mount /dev/hdX /mnt/hdX -o bind .. try that [08:08] thenuke: k i will [08:08] kent: i'm in contact with the upstream author, trying to convince him to use the detectin from nautilus-cd-burner.... [08:08] orga: thats cool [08:09] ogra, good :) === klaym [~isom@a81-197-204-3.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu [08:09] :) === tommi^ [~sir@dsl-sjkgw2c6a.dial.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu === piratePenguin [~piratepen@dialup152.ts001.bmt.esat.net] has joined #ubuntu === darkling [~hugo@81-5-136-19.dsl.eclipse.net.uk] has joined #ubuntu === scotth [~scotth@stroustrup.csee.wvu.edu] has joined #ubuntu [08:10] I wonder why mine worked but yours didnt knet, i used to have to use IDE as SCSI emulation as well === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu === bretzel [~bretzel@modemcable128.237-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has left #ubuntu [] [08:11] Hi. Anybody interested in Finnish country team? [08:11] tommi^: #ubuntu-fi [08:11] ogra, got it working now. thanks very much [08:11] right. thanks [08:11] kent: have fun... :) [08:11] i speak no language other than english and I know nothing about code tommi [08:11] klaym, Didn't realize there was one, since no mention in the web pages. But thanks anyway [08:12] tommi^: np [08:12] kent: some people reported issues with mp3 though.... but ogg is tested extensively... [08:12] ooh, ubuntu-fi :D why I have not ever thought of that? even if I have seen many other countries have their own channels [08:12] ogra. I've accidentally overwritten my /boot. Installed a new ubuntu on another harddisk which I am running now. I'd like to go back to my old system tho. How can I set it up so that I boot to my old OS? [08:12] thenuke: didn't mean to /msg btw [08:13] whats the metapackage for build essentials? === ztonzy [~coffee@c-cb44e055.560-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu [08:13] weee [08:13] mon: heh, I do msg by accident ppl sooo often why I just try to say something to them :) [08:13] does the gentoo music player not play MP3s? [08:13] just wanted to tell Live CD....latest works smoothly! [08:13] er [08:13] s/gentoo/gnome/ [08:13] hidde: i take it grub didnt pick up the system automagically? [08:13] hidde: if the kernel's the same, i guess you could just add an entry in menu1.st for the other partition [08:13] Peter: what is the gentoo music player ? [08:13] too bad Java isn't on CD :-/ [08:14] rob_, mon. it didn't pick it up, no [08:14] I'm now using warty, so that's a different kernel version. === LinuxJones [~LinuxJone@blk-222-206-208.eastlink.ca] has joined #ubuntu [08:14] ogra, i have enough music in ogg to be happy. I dont have an mp3/ogg-player, so i burn music from my computer to my portable cd-player time to time. k3b is not that nice looking on a gnome desktop, so graveman will be nice to use. [08:14] hidde: copy over the /boot from the running system and make a grub entry for it.... [08:14] hidde: i mean add you own entry === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [08:14] kent: great :) [08:15] sorry hidde Im better with lilo than I am with grub === bj_ [~bj@ool-4352a84b.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:16] hidde: you can still manually download the warty kernel and put it in /boot and menu.1st [08:16] lilo is the thing I miss the most about my days with mandrake, slackware, evil entity and the like. [08:16] i cant tolerate this gnome thing === mst curses [08:17] mst: i love my gnome === dewback [~fabian@200.83.135.241] has joined #ubuntu [08:17] rob__, hope to god you dont get married [08:17] anyone tried running newest Live CD "Hoary" ? === _martyr is now known as martyr [08:17] mst; eh === will [~will@1-1-7-19a.ars.sth.bostream.se] has joined #ubuntu [08:18] im just being mean for no reason === Frossi [~Frossi@ZYYKMMMLXXI.dsl.saunalahti.fi] has joined #ubuntu [08:18] what is the longest path + filename possible in linux? (I am sure it is specific to a fs but generally speaking..) === svenl_ is now known as svenl === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [08:19] cowbud, I rhink 128 chars [08:19] cowbud: no idea, try googleing it. what on earth do you plan to do with this knowledge [08:19] err think [08:19] 128 is too small..gotta be [08:19] rob__: creating a static variable :) === tommi^ [~sir@dsl-sjkgw2c6a.dial.inet.fi] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [08:20] cowbud, make a look in C/Python/[whatever] that makes a file with "touch" and add a character for each loop, that way you know atleast for your fs/kernel ;) [08:21] kent: yah uhh [08:21] no? :) [08:21] graveman has now failed 2 cd burning attempts in a row [08:22] with mac os or what? [08:23] whoah it runs super fast === marcin [~marcin@www.e-dev.tele2.pl] has joined #ubuntu === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [08:23] who runs superfast? [08:23] ahhh... sauna rules === njan [~james@80.68.83.50] has joined #ubuntu [08:23] where has 'applicaionts:///' gone in hoary? [08:24] the whole thing [08:24] it runs very fast on this box [08:24] cool [08:24] is there a guide on how to enable the ati drivers for xorg? [08:24] neofeed: are you sure you typed that right? ;) [08:24] topyli, yes === HaRDaWaY [~jugon@168.Red-81-34-137.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:25] just kidding === marcin is now known as marcin_ant === mchang [~mchang@209.94.128.82] has joined #ubuntu [08:25] greetings folks [08:25] WTF is up with all the music players not actually playing winamp playlist urls === mst kicks xmms [08:26] stupid piece of gnome [08:26] anyone do a net, ftp, or http recently? [08:26] mst, it's probably the format your trying to play [08:26] LinuxJones, it wont even add the url to the playlist === TopDog [~gaute@7.80-202-165.nextgentel.com] has joined #ubuntu [08:27] mst gnome existed before the gnome project started [08:27] mst err xmms is older [08:27] quitte, no it didn't :p === zen-afk is now known as zenrox === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu === dewback is now known as fabian [08:27] njan really? i used xmms when i never heard of gnome [08:27] quitte mst gnome existed before the gnome project started [08:27] ^ was referring to that [08:27] mst, post the url so I can test it for you [08:28] njan ok [08:28] anyone? ati radeons and xorg, how to install? [08:28] however, quitte, iirc.. gnome was 1997.. [08:29] I'd think that xmms was about as old, if not older, so you're probably right. === pavkonti [~pavkonti@213.240.224.37] has joined #ubuntu === xsepx [~xsepx@216.54.167.251] has joined #ubuntu [08:29] Peter, see wiki BinaryDriverHowto [08:29] quitte, X11amp v1 ?? Nov 97 -> ?? ??? 97 [08:30] njan just found that,too [08:30] sudo apt-get update && upgrade <- is that the right form? [08:30] "So I started the GNOME project at that point in August 1997" [08:30] actually, it looks like the gnome project is exactly 2 months older than xmms :p [08:30] I was wondering that how good usb networkcard support does ubuntu have? [08:30] njan hmm. kde vs gnome? [08:30] http://www.radiofusion.org/listen.m3u [08:30] mind, the dates on xmms.org are version dates, so it's possible (a) that xmms was founded before then, and (b) that the first gnome release was sufficiently after that as to be classified as younger [08:30] it's a contentious one :p [08:30] announcement in 96 [08:31] tritium: thanks :D [08:31] yup [08:31] hello - anyone can tell me something about website competition? === iRocha [~hrocha@194.117.20.168] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [08:31] njan kde announcement in 96. [08:31] quitte, yeah, kde's older [08:31] quitte, because gnome was founded specifically because kde wasn't free :) [08:31] Frossi, >> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HardwareSupportComponentsWiredNetworkCards/view?searchterm=usb%20network === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu === mincron [~ubuntu@adsl-66-142-135-93.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:32] LinuxJones, thanks ;D [08:32] Frossi, GL :) [08:33] njan. yeah. i remember that time. so it really is almost ten years i'm using linux now [08:33] mst, install gstreamer0.8-mad [08:33] quitte: I got about 6 months of no-windows experience [08:33] : Couldn't find package gstreamer0.8-mad [08:34] whats 'postfix' got anything to do with ati drivers? :| === eim [~eim@host68-176.pool62110.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu === defendguin [~supertux@ip68-0-57-44.no.no.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:34] whoah [08:34] i remember installing my first distro like it was yesterday. I was so *proud* when i could use the mouse again [08:34] mst, >> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/helpcenterfaq.2004-09-16.3469703387/view?searchterm=restricted%20formats [08:34] Peter I give up what? [08:34] sound quality is way higher than in windows for some reason.. [08:34] quitte, I wasn't really aware of the founding of gnome, but I was certainly aware of the unfreeness of KDE in my first stages of using linux, so I would've started using linux for the first time shortly after then :) [08:35] LinuxJones, OH NO [08:35] rob__: exactly, no idea :/ [08:35] ?? [08:35] quitte, I started out using DEC machines which were purloined from a skip :) [08:35] stupid patent bullshit [08:35] s/started out/started out using posix-like operating systems/ [08:35] Hello folks, I'm looking for boot-install floppies for Ubuntu; My SCSI controller does not support booting from CDROM, the smart boot manager neither recognizes my CDROM. I just need something like the Debian install floppies for Ubuntu. Any suggestions? Thanks. === raju [~raj@mr-min-17-51.dmisinetworks.com] has joined #ubuntu [08:35] Anyone knows if John Hornbeck is on IRC? === eim away for dinner, just leave answers, I'll reply later. Thanks. [08:36] Hi, trying to install Ubuntu. But it keeps freezing when it asks me the language === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [08:36] njan my first was linux. my first computing experiences were with a c64. i broke the floppy drives after a few weeks. couldn'T afford a new one. so i learned basic [08:36] hi all. [08:36] Anyone know what I could do to fix it? [08:36] why the hell does my screen go black if I change the time? [08:37] I am so not answering eim's questions [08:37] njan took me a while from finding it good to have free software to finding it bad to have non-free software. === ztonzy [~coffee@c-dc45e055.560-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu [08:37] njan suse 6.2-6.3 time === tritium [~tritium@ee213-dhcp-14.ecn.purdue.edu] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [08:37] hi ? any one knows why they didnt think of having Java on the latest Live CD (Hoary) ?? [08:37] raju: no check bugzilla. file if you see nothing. [08:38] ztonzy, it's non-free [08:38] I've *never* setup broadband before (not available ere... I use ISDN dialup) ... my friend, who knows *nothing* about linux, is ringing me soon so I can tell him how to get online in ubuntu (he has bb) using the live cd ... (1) is this possible? (2) how? whats the easiest way to set it up... any docs ya's recommend? [08:38] ztonzy, java isn't free [08:38] i havent been able to get any decent help in this channel in forever [08:38] hidde, opps...didnt think of that...so that's the reason :( ? [08:38] piratePinguin: cable or adsl? [08:38] rob__: What do you mean? [08:38] ztonzy, yes [08:38] isn't there any other ? [08:38] non-free AND slow [08:38] too bad [08:38] many things need java [08:38] needs* [08:38] yes, java is slow [08:39] ztonzy, the free implementations are dodgy, buggy and semi-legal [08:39] ack [08:39] ;( [08:39] do i have to close /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 before i edit it? [08:39] other than that...this live cd rocks [08:39] defendguin: sorry about that. file a bug against #ubuntu [08:39] the ubuntu bugzilla. if the answer is not there (the same problem someone else has had) then you should tell them your problem by filing a bug. (have you filed a bug before?) [08:39] I'd just say that the free implementations are "incomplete" :) [08:39] ztonzy: sun is opening it's patents to OS tho. Start begging it'll include java === IvyCQuaff [~Sir@c906300c.virtua.com.br] has joined #ubuntu [08:39] hidde, neat === StoneTable [~stone@65.169.94.254] has joined #ubuntu [08:40] rob__: I have not [08:40] hidde: hrm, I dunno... cable I *guess* ... whata you think? Its only new in his area === cesargcman [~chatzilla@83.175.214.117] has joined #ubuntu === pisuke [~luis@84-120-67-237.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu [08:40] (as in bb is only new altogether) [08:40] uhm === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [08:40] do you people actually allow newbies into bugzilla? === mst shivers [08:40] raju: all you do is tell them your hardware stats, and how you got the problem to happen. === mjr just noticed today that SwingWT (the free Swing/AWT reimplementation) is in Sid, so maybe we'll have a usable free java platform someday [08:40] Ok === froust [~liam@S0106000f6694d7bf.ed.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:40] AYnone know how I can turn on tab-completion in vsftpd? === wezzer [~antti@a84-230-117-108.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu [08:41] piratePenguin: Call him, ask if his provider gave him a user/pass. If not, plug in the cablemodem and dhcp will pick it up. Otherwise, buy a router for him. [08:41] mjr, please allow me to laugh at the idea.. [08:41] raju: first search the ubuntu bugzilla for your problem, use keywords that would be sligly inique to your bug [08:41] hellou everyone [08:41] <3 all [08:41] mst, sure, it's your attitude problem, not mine :) [08:41] ^slightly unique would be what i ment to type [08:42] where is gcc and friends? [08:42] build-what? [08:42] hidde: rofl.. I'll see what I can do.. cheers [08:42] i have a networking question for anyone willing to help. when i plug into wall jack, i can not pull an ip from dhcp when using ubuntu. i have verified that the port works, and can pull an ip with other OSes. if i bypass the wall jack and plug into the switch directly, i can connect fine. ideas? [08:42] wooohoooo graveman is finally working! [08:43] piratePenguin: if he has adsl (rp-pppoe / ppp) i'd truely advise you to get him a router, and use it as a 'buffer' Router is way easier to set up than linux in that case. [08:43] rob__: really? good news [08:43] mst: on the CD, but not installed, see the FAQ === froust [~liam@S0106000f6694d7bf.ed.shawcable.net] has left #ubuntu [] [08:43] hidde: k.. thanks [08:44] topyli: i just hope i can recreate my success (i had 3 failed burnings in a row) === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu === Skwid_ [~Skwid@stlaurent-1-82-228-247-28.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu === piratePenguin [~piratepen@dialup152.ts001.bmt.esat.net] has left #ubuntu [] [08:45] sweet [08:45] rob__: it used to have terrible problems with either non-ascii characters, or directory names with spaces in them. i know both are wrong but gnome is supposed to be utf and dammit, a gnome program (sound-juicer) created those directories :) [08:46] will ubuntu function correctly without ubuntu-base and ubuntu-desktop? [08:46] topyli lol that anoying [08:47] it will funciton without ubuntu-desktop thats just a progam that keeps track of what crap you have installed [08:47] Peter, they only affect upgrades, not the basic working of the OS [08:47] Peter: yes, they are just dummy packages that depend on others, to make it easier to install collections of useful stuff [08:47] ok, cool === bradb [~bradb@p188.h-yulrz01.stsn.com] has joined #ubuntu === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu === MikeGTN [~mike@greatnorthern.demon.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu === poningru [~Poningru@n128-227-27-139.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #ubuntu [08:50] Hey does anyone here own a copy of MythII for linux? [08:50] I have it but cant install it, but Civ II -Call to Power works fine === hidde [~hidde@136.122.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:51] does ext2 suck [08:51] it does [08:51] every so often when i come back to my computer the screen is buggered... all sorts of colored lines [08:51] and i have to shut it off and wait.. or restart it like 10 times [08:51] thats not ext2s fault [08:51] someone told me that it was because of ext2... [08:51] well not that per se [08:51] but a similar issue after a power loss [08:52] its possible but not likely [08:52] well something on this thing sucks [08:52] lol (i have a dirty mind about what thing your talking about, and whats on it sucking) === drspin [~cole@ip68-2-119-141.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #Ubuntu [08:53] no dirtier than mine [08:53] i post on b0g.org [08:53] how can I get a list of currently running processes? === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [08:53] applications -- system tools -- system monitor [08:54] lol [08:54] i did not know b0g existed === Phineas [~dark@c-24-30-93-207.mw.client2.attbi.com] has joined #ubuntu [08:55] Damn, I just wanna install Ubuntu :( === drspin [~cole@ip68-2-119-141.ph.ph.cox.net] has left #Ubuntu [] === drspin [~cole@ip68-2-119-141.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #Ubuntu [08:56] then do so, raju [08:57] I'm trying, it keeps freezing [08:57] ok I have the HOARY LIVECD ISO --- no how do I burn the ISO to a CD without having to first mount the ISO? [08:57] When it asks me for the language, it just freezes === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [08:57] drspin: using windows or linux? === hidde [~hidde@136.122.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu === Stereotype [~nightowl@ool-43507f42.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:57] kebac_: Wartry [08:57] *Warty [08:58] drspin: in linux there is program called cdburn or burncd or something like that [08:58] is there no way to manually build nvidia driver ?..it keeps telling me that the kernel header is wrong version..and I noitced that the 'installed' kernel from ubuntu install and the linux-source I got..are slightly off from each other ie: installed is: 2.6.8.1-3-386 BUT linux-source from synaptic is: 2.6.8.1-16.10..anyone know why ubuntu doesn't provide kenrel source exact match for default installed one ?? ;-))thx... === XBL [~chatzilla@dslam117-239-59-62.adsl.versatel.nl] has joined #ubuntu [08:59] I hate it that I have to use k3b to perform basic burning tasks like burning an ISO image [08:59] or burning an audio CD -- [08:59] Hi! [09:00] drspin, burning an iso is easy from nautilus. just use the right mouse button :) [09:00] drspin, right click the .ISO images and choose create CD. it should attempt to clean up the CDRW before writting to it [09:01] pisuke: really??????????? [09:01] Just ordered a couple cd's to hand out in my computer science class (whatever it is in english ;-)). But since I'm sure some will be interested in a netinstall: is it possible to preform some kind of netinstall, by only buring a simple cd (or even a floppy)? [09:01] audio is another history [09:01] jp_away: cool! [09:01] I've burned around 10 .ISOs using just that :P === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [09:01] WOW -- I remember though that if the file extension is capital, as in "ISO" it doesn't work ;) [09:02] this one isn't but I have others that are... [09:03] I burn so fast under linux -- averaging 20x whereas on windows it would only do around 15-16x === alindeman [adml@alindeman-gallery.staff.freenode] has joined #ubuntu [09:04] XBL: i don't think ubuntu has a net install option. you need debian [09:05] XBL: ubuntu is just one cd though [09:05] thnx. I know debian has that option... which rocks. [09:05] What's the difference between just Debian and Ubuntu? === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [09:06] True, but I (and some guys in class who are running linux) appreciate downloading the newst version right away. Or installing with only a floppy drive. [09:06] raju: ubuntu freezes debian unstable every 6 months and makes a stable release [09:06] Ubuntu is up to date, raju :-) [09:06] is there something else than gstreamer and w32codecs I need to install to make totem accept all video formats? [09:06] raju: Ubuntu is based on Debian.. meaning ubuntu makes improvements upon debian [09:07] It sounds great, now if it would just install on my computer! :) [09:07] What probs are you having? [09:07] ok so livecd boots ok but default res at 640x480 with nv driver === thux [~thujan@dsl-sjkgw2j1a.dial.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu [09:07] new hoary livecd [09:07] raju: try reburning the CD and see if that helps... [09:08] raju: you may have burned a functional coaster... === jcoxon77 [~jac208@jac208.caths.cam.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu [09:08] <_d4vid> ky all [09:08] brb - going to test Hoary LiveCD === Nafallo [nafallo@h123n3c1o1027.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu === drspin [~cole@ip68-2-119-141.ph.ph.cox.net] has left #Ubuntu [] === chrismurf [~chris@209.94.128.67] has joined #ubuntu === mz2 [~mz@81-1-73-144.homechoice.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu === Sirius_Black [~albert@dial81-135-239-222.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has joined #ubuntu === GrayThunder [~steves@pocpi.co.sweet.wy.us] has joined #ubuntu [09:09] Hi, can't remove X mouse cursor with Option "HwCursor" "false" or "SWCursor" "true", is there any other ways? [09:09] hi guys - can someone tell me how to install java vm on my ubuntu system === MrTrick [~MrTrick@c220-237-102-182.carlnfd3.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [09:10] Sirius, download it from http://java.sun.com do you know how to do it to get the .bin from there? === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [09:10] jp_away: aha i c [09:10] With gnome 2.8 + Ubuntu Hoary - all of the applications on my panel at the bottom of the screen insist on shrinking to be very narrow. When I only have like 2 windows, why do they do this?? Can it be fixed? [09:10] Sirius_Black, http://ubuntuguide.org/ === ufo- [~PunK@62.162.244.210] has joined #ubuntu [09:10] i thought there was something simpler than that [09:10] jp_away, is that to install the JRE for mozilla? === ctr [~ctr@twoflower.hiddenmemory.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [09:11] Sirius_Black, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java [09:11] and here: ubuntuguide.org [09:11] fabian: tnx mate [09:11] doh, late [09:11] hi, I have this problem.. I can't ping myself by pinging 127.0.0.1 nor with my static addres on eth1 - 10.0.0.1, when I try to restart /etc/networking i get this... rp_filter. [09:11] * Reconfiguring network interfaces... [fail] [09:12] guys - i am not gettign framebuffered consoles - any ide how to sort this one out please [09:12] *idea [09:12] chrissmurf: i had the same problem, at the end of the bar on the left side after the button to minimise all windows there is a bar. Right click on this and you can change the settings [09:13] ah - thanks jcoxon [09:14] can anyone help? [09:14] what do I want to change in there? I see them, but it's non-obvious which is right === mx|gone is now known as mxpxpod === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [09:14] i mean in /boot/grub/menu.lst i have the option vga=791 but at the beginign of boot-up it asks me to either press enter for the choise of available (unbuffered) options or press space to carry on with unbiffered default option [09:15] jcoxon77, AH - got it thnx [09:16] Sirius_Black, and with other vesa modes (like 788), have you tried? (maybe your hardware can't work in that mode) [09:16] ufo-: sudo ifconfig [09:16] chrismurf: cool [09:16] ufo-: does an "lo" device get listed? [09:16] i've installed the /sb end [09:16] ooo, mangled. [09:16] martyr, nope no lo [09:16] fabian: it definetely can work with 791 [09:17] i mean i had suse9.2 on this machine before i put ubuntu [09:17] ufo-: then this is why you can't ping yourself. hang on a second === alexrait [~alexrait@84.94.122.184.cable.012.net.il] has joined #ubuntu [09:17] yeah i noticed that.. but i cant even bring up lo [09:17] fabian: is vga=788 800x600? === tritium [~tritium@ee213-dhcp-14.ecn.purdue.edu] has joined #ubuntu === zeedo [~notroot@www.bsrf.org.uk] has joined #ubuntu [09:17] it says that i have to few parametars [09:17] *too === unperson [~nickc@177-135.mam.umd.edu] has joined #ubuntu [09:18] ufo-: try "sudo ifconfig lo up" for a start. or is this when it said you lack parameters? [09:18] yup [09:18] thats the one [09:18] how would i reload xorg? [09:18] I upgraded my ubuntu (I have hoary sources) and it installed a new kernel. So I wanted to modify the grub settings for that, but I couldn't find the new kernel anyway... dpkg -l | grep linux-image finds it installed... === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [09:18] can you paste the part for lo from your /etc/network/interfaces? [09:18] anywere* === hidde [~hidde@136.122.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu === enabl [~enabl@host81-156-197-152.range81-156.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu [09:19] ufo-: second [09:19] don't know how this got messy.. [09:19] Peter, press CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE [09:19] after logging out of gnome [09:19] alexrait, that should have been done automatically when the new kernel was installed [09:19] martyr, k === Frossi [~Frossi@ZYYKMMMLXXI.dsl.saunalahti.fi] has joined #ubuntu [09:19] # The loopback network interface [09:19] auto lo [09:19] iface lo inet loopback [09:19] tritium, In the boot folder, I still see the old image... [09:20] tritium, how can I see where dpkg has installed the new version? [09:20] martyr, I have just the same in my file [09:20] :\ [09:20] I'm getting I/O errors in apt-get. Can anyone help me? [09:20] ufo-: did you compile your kernel yourself? [09:20] alexrait, "dpkg -L packagename" will list all the files in packagename [09:21] martyr, nope [09:21] updated it with synaptic [09:21] which package did you install? === zeedo [~notroot@www.bsrf.org.uk] has joined #ubuntu [09:21] k7 [09:21] "linux-k7"? [09:21] thyes === chrismurf [~chris@209.94.128.67] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [09:21] yes [09:21] okay [09:22] and did you recently change any network configuration? [09:22] nope.. I just disabled the part for my wifi card [09:22] im alla k7 [09:22] How do I generate /var/lib/dpkg/available? [09:22] all [09:22] wokrs fine [09:23] just "ifconfig wlan0 (resp. eth1) down"? === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [09:23] sorry for the typos, a bit drunk noe [09:23] now [09:23] very sorry [09:24] nope, i did it in /etc/network/interfaces [09:24] I installed ubuntu to my friends computer today, some applications are in swedish like screensaver and apt-get mostly, but it was installed in finnish language. I don't have that problem and im also using ubuntu in finnish language. any ideas? I know it's not wery serious problem but still I would like to get it to at least in english. [09:24] just commented out the part for the wifi card === cybergypsy [~cybergyps@134.174.39-62.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu === cyber9ypsy [~cybergyps@134.174.39-62.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:24] ufo-: well if this was what you did before the error occured, the first step would be to try setting everything back [09:25] tried that already [09:25] no results === veritas [~veritascs@209.137.254.177] has joined #ubuntu [09:25] w00t, just got done installing ubuntu [09:25] My /var/lib/dpkg/available seems to be corrupt, how can I fix it? === veritas [~veritascs@209.137.254.177] has joined #ubuntu [09:26] this is just great.. a unsolvable problem [09:26] :) [09:26] <|QuaD-> any strong c++ programmers here? [09:26] whats the way to tell what video driver you're running? [09:26] |QuaD: depends ;) [09:27] ufo-: mhm... the solution just knows how to hide ;) [09:27] <|QuaD-> i am running out of resources :) i need to time something to the nearest millisecont using ctime.h and the time() function === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [09:27] <|QuaD-> according to my professor it is possible to do, doesn't want us using clock [09:27] <|QuaD-> any suggestions? [09:27] martyr, its all the same.. still doesnt works :) === adnans [~adnans@linuxgoeroe.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu === randabis_ [~randabis@cs6710177-213.houston.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [09:28] |QuaD-: you could try using the microprocessor timer directly [09:28] Argh, my computer's acting screwy. [09:28] <|QuaD-> martyr: he wants us to use time() [09:28] |QuaD-: i don't know how, though, but it must be possible in a way [09:29] <|QuaD-> martyr: after we hand it in we get the solution key :0 [09:29] XMMS doesn't run anymore, and Mozilla randomly crashes or closes [09:29] <|QuaD-> i just wnat to get it right :) [09:29] |QuaD-: okay, give me a second [09:29] <|QuaD-> martyr: k [09:29] |QuaD-: _only_ time() ? [09:30] <|QuaD-> martyr: yup === hypn0_ [~chatzilla@host81-7-55-138.surfport24.v21.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu === hypn0_ is now known as hypn0 [09:30] wtf === drspin [~ubuntu@ip68-2-119-141.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:31] |QuaD-: erm... but time() gives you a unix timestamp. without any other way to measure time more accurately, this is impossible o_O [09:31] [09:31] <|QuaD-> martyr: that seems to be the consensus [09:31] mmmm Hoary LiveCD -- [09:31] *g* [09:31] <|QuaD-> i guess i have to wait for the answer key === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu === elvirolo [~elvirolo@dyn-83-156-64-178.ppp.tiscali.fr] has joined #ubuntu [09:31] hi all! === jaco [~jaco@host179-251.pool80117.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu [09:31] I suppose you could busy-wait, do timings (looking for increments in the seconds-counter, and work out a multiplier to give you the number of loops per millisecond. === chrismurf [~chris@209.94.128.67] has joined #ubuntu [09:32] darkling: that would require another means of measuring time, wouldn't it? [09:32] Nope. [09:33] You loop repeatedly in a tight loop, reading the time(). [09:33] ah, damn, of course not [09:33] Count the number of loops for one second. [09:33] yeah, you're right of course [09:33] ... etc... [09:33] then divide by 1000 [09:33] It's ugly, and potentially unreliable, but it'll work. === lamont_r [~lamont@209-180-255-158.dnvr.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:34] depends on system load, too. but i can't think of anything else either [09:34] so |QuaD-, there you go ;) [09:34] I'm considering a dist-upgrade to Hoary -- [09:34] is this wise? === amiroff [~amiroff@dsl81-214-21642.adsl.ttnet.net.tr] has joined #ubuntu === theine [~theine@x1-6-00-0c-41-7e-f9-af.k200.webspeed.dk] has joined #ubuntu [09:35] drspin: It's given me no problems so far. [09:35] dakling... [09:35] darkling: unfortunately is has given others LOTS of problems... [09:35] I'm just a pussy and I'm scared... LOL === mohamed_ [~mohamed@adsl-199-47-192-81.adsl.iam.net.ma] has joined #ubuntu === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [09:36] hello people, I just upgraded to hoary and have a small problem, everything went fine but now X won't start when nvidia driver is selected, nv works fine === topyli [~juha@dsl-hkigw3pa5.dial.inet.fi] has left #ubuntu [] [09:36] point proven ;) [09:36] The only way you'll find out is to try it. [09:36] error says could not load Glcore [09:37] amiroff, comment that line out in /etc/X11/xorg.conf === ^majik^ [~majik@68.119.96.36] has joined #Ubuntu === Amaranth [Amaranth@amaranth.user] has joined #ubuntu [09:37] amiroff, and the "dri" module as well === ^majik^ [~majik@68.119.96.36] has left #Ubuntu [] [09:37] a strange problem occurs on my hoary installation : Firefox segfaults after a few seconds' browsing, and thunderbird also segfaults, but before even starting up properly ... the really weird part is that it happens not only with the official packages but also with the binaries from mozilla.org ... === ^majik^ [~majik@68.119.96.36] has joined #Ubuntu [09:37] can anyone help me ? [09:38] tritium: there is no xorg.conf in /etc/X11 [09:38] elvirolo: what is your problem? [09:38] amiroff, you have Hoary, but no xorg? === [francof] [~francofai@adsl-ull-130-186.41-151.net24.it] has joined #ubuntu [09:38] drspin, well ... FF and TB both segfault ... [09:38] elvirolo: warty or Hoary? === [francof] is now known as francofait === bitfoo [~bitfoo@rdu26-78-203.nc.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [09:39] tritium: yes, that is interesting, only XF86Config-4 [09:39] drspin, Hoary ... [09:39] amiroff, is xserver-xorg installed? [09:39] hi all [09:39] amiroff "ls /etc/X11 | grep '.*\.conf'" === Skeg [~alistair@82-37-140-102.cable.ubr02.telf.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [09:39] :) yawwwnNNN [09:39] elvirolo: were you using any backports on warty? [09:39] drspin, no === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [09:40] test [09:40] drspin, but, as I already said, the problem also occurs with the mozilla.org binaries .. [09:40] elvirolo: the only thing that I can think of, and I'm not very good at this, is that one of the libraries that the two share is broken... [09:40] amiroff, if it's installed, then you should try "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" [09:41] tritium: The following packages will be REMOVED: [09:41] xfree86-driver-synaptics xserver-xfree86 [09:41] The following NEW packages will be installed: [09:41] xserver-xorg [09:41] 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 2 to remove and 1 not upgraded. [09:41] Need to get 6382kB of archives. [09:41] drspin, ah, I see :( [09:41] amiroff, that should have happened when you upgraded to Hoary. go ahead and allow it [09:41] elvirolo: sorry I can't be more help... [09:41] drspin, no no don't ! [09:41] tritium: ok :) [09:42] Hello! Just trying to get to grips with Ubuntu after being a Windows user for years. I have a Netgear MA111 USB wireless network adapter. Can anyone point me in the right direction to install it? [09:42] elvirolo: did you happen to do any checking into where it segfaults at? [09:42] drspin, it's a good idea, i'll check it out [09:42] Skeg: sudo ifconfig, tell me what you get :) === Fazer [Fazer@CPE0012c914438b-CM0012c90fe42a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu [09:42] tritium: why wasn't it installed when dist-upgrading ? [09:43] Hello, I have a problem booting Ubuntu Live CD on my laptop [09:43] amiroff, not sure [09:43] it says kernel panick [09:43] and it just hangs up in there === BenZ|Laptop [~bnurmi_la@CPE-141-168-13-91.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu === ubuntu [~ubuntu@p50841226.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu [09:43] hi folks [09:43] Hi [09:43] tritium: ok, so after xorg is installed what should I do to get nvidia work again? [09:43] ubuntu: Can you help me with a problem? === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [09:44] i just tried out the new ubuntu live cd and recognized that when i do su i have to type a password. does anybody know what this is? [09:44] sudo -s [09:44] not su [09:44] amiroff, it should work. If not, make sure that in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, the following Modules are not being loaded: GLcore & dri [09:44] ubuntu: use "sudo whatever" [09:44] Fazer, just ask [09:45] ah ok, thank you guys :) [09:45] amiroff, you already had nvidia working in Warty? [09:45] ubuntu: when it asks for a password, provide your user password [09:45] Hmm, I have a problem here. When I run mozilla, after a certain amount of time it does this: "[2] + Segmentation fault mozilla" and dies. [09:45] tritium: yep [09:45] ubuntu: you CAN set a password for su but you have to read on the Wiki how to do it... if you can't find it then you don't need to be using su ;) [09:45] amiroff, okay, so we should be in good shape [09:45] martyr, Thanks for your help. I get two entries with a load of details. One is eth0 the PCI network card. The other is lo the loopback adapter. Do you want more detailed info? === Stereotype [~nightowl@ool-43507f42.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:45] tritium: ok, so I am commenting those 2 lines [09:45] ubuntu: I reccomend using sudo -- takes some getting used to but it's a really nice way of doing things... === abelli [~abelli@host34-170.pool8290.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu [09:46] but this is a live cd i have i dont want to set a password [09:46] amiroff, yes === chrismurf [~chris@209.94.128.67] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [09:46] Skeg: did it recognize your wlan adapter whilst the installation? [09:46] i'm just trying out ubuntu for the 1st time === francofait [~francofai@adsl-ull-130-186.41-151.net24.it] has left #ubuntu ["Ooh,] [09:46] ubuntu: then just use sudo [09:46] ubuntu: man sudo <- in case you're not sure how it works [09:46] anyone here use unrar on hoary :| [09:46] drspin, i did sudo -s and it worked :) [09:46] now i'm root.....now i got POWER :) [09:47] how do I boot the live cd so it doesn't probe all my harwware? [09:47] like, using the tag noprobe [09:47] or something or whatever === Sye [~Sye@cpe-066-061-080-233.midsouth.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu === sri|work [~sri|work@pdxproxy.intel.com] has joined #ubuntu === MrTrick [~MrTrick@c220-237-102-182.carlnfd3.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [09:47] Doh... [09:48] Skeg, the modules are appear to be available in Ubuntu already "prism2_usb". Here's a tutorial >> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/answers/239 [09:48] k, so I guess no one knows the answer [09:48] tritium: gonna restart x :) thanks for help [09:48] Fazer: boot from cd. when you see a prompt, press F2 and have a look at the list of possible parameters [09:48] amiroff, sure [09:48] I ran apt-get install mozilla, and halfway through checking dependencies, the ENTIRE system locked up. [09:48] martyr, no, not that I noticed. It was plugged in however. I did get an error like this... modprobe error inserting pciehp and also a similar error for shpchp. I tried reinstalling, but still got the same error. === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [09:48] martyr: Thx, I'll do that === piratePenguin [~piratepen@dialup152.ts001.bmt.esat.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:49] martyr: This is the Live CD that you are talking about, right? === wfx [~wfx@M1425P011.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #ubuntu === ironwolf [~ironwolf@c-24-6-169-124.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:49] Skeg: as LinuxJones said, the prism2_* drivers should do the job [09:49] hm can i tell when i found a little bug in the live cd? or where is the best place to tell? [09:49] Fazer: iirc, you should get that prompt on any of the ubuntu cds. i may be wrong though [09:49] Fazer: what is going wrong with the probing? [09:49] OFFTOPIC: does any of the nerds in here exercise?> [09:50] mdz: Not sure if it is the probing, but when I boot from the CD, shorty it hangs up and crashes saying "kernel panic " and something to do with init === spiral [~spiral@84.4.93.197] has joined #ubuntu [09:50] Fazer: before or after it asks you which language you want to use? [09:50] drspin: yes, i regularly do some mental skill training exercises ;D [09:50] Thanks martyr and LinuxJones. I'll have a look at that link!! [09:50] erm...I think after. [09:50] ogra: hi :-) [09:51] wfx: hi [09:51] someone here told me to use 'noprobe' a while or something when the screen shows up [09:51] don't know how to do that. [09:51] Skeg, GL :) === elvirolo_ [~elvirolo@dyn-83-156-70-138.ppp.tiscali.fr] has joined #ubuntu [09:51] Fazer: are you using the released live CD (warty) or the pre-release milestone (hoary)? [09:51] I have no idea, I think the former [09:51] wait [09:52] what is the name of the file that you downloaded to make the CD? [09:52] I got this cd in the mail in december [09:52] or did you receive it in the mail? [09:52] ok, then it's the released version [09:52] mail = [09:52] thought so === drspin [~ubuntu@ip68-2-119-141.ph.ph.cox.net] has left #ubuntu [] [09:52] so, what shall i do? === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu === tommi^ [~sir@dsl-sjkgw2c6a.dial.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu [09:53] Fazer: when you first boot the live CD, a menu is displayed [09:53] it has various options in it which let you choose the amount of hardware detection to do === holzbrenner [~holzbrenn@BSN-77-85-34.dsl.siol.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:54] my nautlius runs now very stable i only install gamin (dont know if it have anything todo with it :) [09:54] mdz: Really? [09:54] yeah I see a blue menu thingy [09:54] how would i boot into command line, so i can configure my xorg.conf file? [09:54] or is there an easier way? [09:54] Peter: you can stop the init.d/SCRIPT === Nafallo [nafallo@h123n3c1o1027.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu [09:55] mdz: so I press F2? [09:55] Hi. I tried to boot the hoary live cd. It seems according to bugzilla that I'm not the only one with the following problem: SATA hd, PATA cdrom, installer fails on the cdrom search. Log says that the hd is scsi1 and cdrom scsi2. Yet I found no right devices for them. [09:55] Fazer: try "failsafe" [09:55] mdz: What be that? [09:55] Fazer: the 3rd option down in the menu [09:56] mdz: Thta's when I press F2, correct? [09:56] "Ubuntu", "Ubuntu | ACPI on", "Ubuntu | Failsafe mode" [09:56] no [09:56] ooh, I see. [09:56] use the arrow keys to move to the "failsafe mode" option, and then press enter [09:56] Okay, I'll try Failsafe then. [09:56] mdz: Heh, yeah I figured that much :P Thank you. I'll brb and see if this works on my laptop === amiroff [~amiroff@dsl81-214-21642.adsl.ttnet.net.tr] has joined #ubuntu [09:56] I am on a 600E Thinkpad [09:57] Peter: i thing /etc/init.d/gdm stop and /etc/init.d/xfree86-common stop form a terminal ([ALT] +[CTRL] +[F1] from x) should it do === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu === mohamed_ [~mohamed@adsl-199-47-192-81.adsl.iam.net.ma] has joined #ubuntu [09:57] Fazer: we have a new live CD out which should work on more machines; if you have a CD burn and can download and test it, that would be a help [09:58] do we have a ubuntu theme for xmms? [09:58] is there som page for webcams, sort of like the site which has a database over printers for linux.? Im thinking of buying a webcam. [09:58] mdz: No, I am very resource limited. It took me years to get Cable Internet [09:58] I am waiting for the end of Feb. so I can order the new CDs in the mail [09:58] tritium: man, it did not help [09:58] I am still getting various errors [09:58] later [09:59] Fazer: if you can find a way to test before we press the new CDs, that means that we can fix any problems. if not, it's entirely possible that it won't work [09:59] ooh, hmm.. thanks, I'll ask a friend [09:59] if all goes well, I'll be using talking to you via Ubuntu =/ [09:59] see you soon [09:59] good luck === elmaya [~elmaya@dsl-200-78-65-209.prod-infinitum.com.mx] has joined #ubuntu [10:00] amiroff, like what? === wtroche [~wtroche@ool-18bfd0cc.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu === mameluke [~bo@71.45.62.81.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #ubuntu === stuNNed [~stuNNed@adsl-068-209-149-165.sip.msy.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu === cyrus-tc [~cyrus-tc@pD9E31CB6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu [10:02] hello everyone ... I have a question I didn'f find any answers for in the forums === drspin [~cole@ip68-2-119-141.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #Ubuntu [10:02] just ask === stuNNed [~stuNNed@adsl-068-209-149-165.sip.msy.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu [10:02] tritium: complaints about xtt, uncommented that, and later got another complaint about fonts [10:02] how do I change the resolution and keyboard layout for the login screen? [10:03] if I edit my sources.list and change everything to "hoary" then mark all upgrades and start it, I will upgrade to Hoary? [10:03] holzbrenner, base-config maybe? === moyogo [~moyogo@Toronto-HSE-ppp3717779.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu [10:03] drspin, reload first [10:03] holzbrenner, ive never run it, ive never had to configure my system, but base-config is the setup utility that you use to setup your system like in the installation of ubuntu [10:03] can I test a dual screen configuration with the live cd? I am using an nvidia that supports this currently in a windows environment === Stuttergart [~Stutterga@www.nathanvalentine.org] has joined #ubuntu [10:03] Linux: ok === agx [~agx@ip-206-180.sn1.eutelia.it] has joined #ubuntu [10:04] drspin, ;) [10:04] tritium: how do I get error output of startx command as a file? === drspin [~cole@ip68-2-119-141.ph.ph.cox.net] has left #Ubuntu [] === drspin [~cole@ip68-2-119-141.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #Ubuntu === tezem [~tezem@chello213047234226.tirol.surfer.at] has left #ubuntu ["Kyle] [10:05] LinuxJones: you don't know how this will behave if I have backports on my system do you? [10:05] hm ... the systems seems to be configured for my locale === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [10:05] and it works quite nicely ... except the login screen [10:05] amiroff, I don't recall. Why are you starting it from cli? [10:06] but I have to type my password using us-en keyboard layout [10:06] tritium: so that I could see error message [10:06] amiroff, you can check /var/log/Xorg.0.log [10:07] martyr, LinuxJones, I'm following the instructions at http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/answers/239. When trying to extract the files to /usr/src I get an error which says I don't have the right permissions. As you can tell I am completely new to this OS. What do I do! === WildRabbit [~WildRabbi@adsl7-69.simnet.is] has joined #ubuntu [10:07] [Q] ubuntu vs Debian/Unstable: i dislike gnome and prefer KDE, is best to use Ubuntu or Debian/Unstable for running a decent KDE3+baghira theme+ kompose??? Thanks in advance! [10:07] Skeg, prepend your command with 'sudo' === zeedo [~notroot@www.bsrf.org.uk] has joined #ubuntu [10:07] Skeg: use sudo [10:07] Skeg: "sudo extraction_stuff" [10:07] replace "extraction_stuff" [10:08] amiroff, let's reconfigure xserver-xorg [10:08] Skeg, the modules are already available you don't have to build them again [10:08] downloading file 2 of 1008 :/ [10:08] WOW! [10:08] I'm going to start my laundry [10:08] ;) [10:08] amiroff, start with this: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5748 [10:08] amiroff, then "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" [10:08] drspin, they will probably be upgraded :D === melter [~Melter@dyn224.iacc-tm4.ndsu.NoDak.edu] has joined #ubuntu [10:09] argh :| [10:09] Skeg: yep, LinuxJones is right. Open Symantec and check whether it's already installed. if it's not, do so. the pacakge is called "linus-wlan-ng" === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [10:10] weird [10:10] only rhythmbox plays mp3s :| [10:11] ah ok, so Debian/Unstable is better? :_P [10:11] lol. my friend says his rhythmbox plays everything but mp3s [10:11] tritium: there's a line in log file like "Failed to initialize GLX extension (NVIDIA X driver not found)" [10:11] tell him to install gstreamer0.8-mad [10:11] :| [10:11] will do. brb [10:11] hmm... I'm seeing something weird with caps/numlock... desktops 1 and 2 seem to keep track of the caps/numlock status independently of each other, but 3 and 4 share each other's lock state [10:12] in hoary [10:12] amiroff, you have nvidia-glx installed? and linux-restricted-modules that match your kernel version? [10:13] martyr, LinuxJones, I'm getting confused! When you say open Symantec and check if it's already installed. How do I do this? === Madeye [~Jad@213.186.182.121] has joined #Ubuntu === agx [~agx@ip-206-180.sn1.eutelia.it] has left #ubuntu ["Scusate,] === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu === Scognito [~utdut@host54-140.pool8253.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu [10:14] Hoary is a whore! [10:14] :X [10:14] Skeg: it's synaptic, of course, i'm distracted *g* [10:14] is there a way to make xorg display what graphic driver its using? [10:15] Skeg: Skeg: click on "Computer", then "System Management" and then "Synaptic Package Manager" [10:15] Peter: you can either look at your config file or use glxinfo === pepsi [~pepsi@p184.n-sfpop05.stsn.com] has joined #ubuntu [10:15] Xlib: extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0". [10:15] missing o_O [10:15] holy shit -- too many people still downloading the ISO -- use bittorrent you dicks... 4 days for the download of Hoary... [10:16] I guess I'll wait to upgrade a couple weeks === drspin [~cole@ip68-2-119-141.ph.ph.cox.net] has left #Ubuntu [] [10:16] potty mouth [10:16] tritium: :-) === gabaug [~gabe@216-43-99-149.dsl.mcleodusa.net] has joined #ubuntu [10:17] tritium: thanks, I look further tomorrow... === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu === lander [~lander@201.135.213.153] has joined #ubuntu === holzbrenner [~holzbrenn@BSN-77-85-34.dsl.siol.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === DAC1138 [~dave@24-56-174-97.co.warpdriveonline.com] has joined #ubuntu === trygvebw [~trygvebw@217-189-68.adsl.tele2.no] has joined #ubuntu [10:20] Hello, what is wrong with my nasm assembler? Everytime i try to assemble programs i get this error: "nasm: error: unrecognised option -Q". Does anyone know what's wrong? === mvo_ [~egon@ip181.135.1511I-CUD12K-01.ish.de] has joined #ubuntu === wfx a very fast ximian south hack : http://teg.sourceforge.net/tmp/ubuntu-south.png ;-) [10:22] martyr, LinuxJones, I've found Synaptic. I did a search for linus-wlan-ng (and linux-wlan-ng) and it didn't find anything. What should I do now? Sorry for being so useless, but I'm on a steep learning curve! === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu === regeya [~shane@adsl-sp3-cdale176.micgi.com] has joined #ubuntu === veritas is very happy with ubuntu [10:24] http://tinyurl.com/5vo9w <- LOL === regeya is glad he read that; his evening project was going to be to install ruby on rails [10:24] Skeg: go to Settings -> Repositories and enable all of them [10:24] then klick reload [10:24] and search for it again === zerokarmaleft [~zerokarma@ip24-253-217-164.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu === zerokarmaleft [~zerokarma@ip24-253-217-164.ok.ok.cox.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [10:26] ugh, firefox looks awful now [10:27] tritium: change your theme... [10:27] tritium: imho, firefox always looked awful ^^ [10:27] it's still the best browser though [10:27] anyway, i gotta go [10:27] see you all === ermo [~ermo@3E6B20D4.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #ubuntu [10:27] martyr: you can find nice themes :-) [10:28] spiral: i know :) === wfx if anyone want this quick ximian-south hack: http://teg.sourceforge.net/tmp/ubuntu-south.tar.gz :-) === martyr afk === martyr is now known as martyr_off === wfx needs to reboot [10:30] spiral, I think I will. The new default theme doesn't appeal to me... === wfx [~wfx@M1425P011.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has left #ubuntu [] [10:30] tritium: I did too :-) === HaRDaWaY [~jugon@168.Red-81-34-137.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu [10:31] spiral, I can't find just plain-old default firefox === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [10:31] like it used to be [10:31] tritium: I changed to a kde plastik crystal theme, which fits with my kde :- [10:33] what is the best text web browser iyho? === comradewilly [~comradewi@static24-72-113-74.yorkton.accesscomm.ca] has joined #ubuntu [10:33] I have two sound cards and just installed Ubuntu ... how do I switch to use my SB Live? [10:34] stuNNed: links ? [10:34] http://www.ausgamers.com/files/details/html/15272 :O [10:34] its spreading :| === wufu [~wufu@21.red-62-57-19.user.auna.net] has joined #ubuntu === wfx [~wfx@M1425P011.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #ubuntu === tritium [~tritium@ee213-dhcp-14.ecn.purdue.edu] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === Kyaneos [~Kyaneos@80-29-42-237.adsl.nuria.telefonica-data.net] has joined #ubuntu === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [10:35] evening ppl === chibif1 [~chibifs@bgp01048662bgs.southg01.mi.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu [] [10:38] so, packages in universe are not covered by the Ubuntu security team, correct? [10:38] For instance, apache-ssl is in universe and I shouldn't expect new Ubuntu packages if an exploit is found. [10:39] only the main warty archive gets security updates. === tritium [~tritium@ee213-dhcp-14.ecn.purdue.edu] has joined #ubuntu === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu === dbt`veritas [~veritascs@209.137.254.177] has joined #ubuntu [10:41] hmmmm, ~1week all was fine with nautilus, maybe i was to happy.... [10:42] Hrm, I just logged out of ubuntu and now I can't log back in. I didn't change anything... [10:42] What happens when you try to logg back? [10:42] *log === GrayThunder [~steves@pocpi.co.sweet.wy.us] has left #ubuntu [] [10:43] I just goes to a brown screen then comes back to the login [10:43] whereis the bootscripts for debian? the rc.local file? [10:43] DAC1138, /etc/init.d/ === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu === Scognito [~utdut@host54-140.pool8253.interbusiness.it] has left #ubuntu ["con] [10:44] thanks [10:44] tritium, oh, i got it fixed, its at 1024x768 [10:44] good [10:44] tritium, the could not configure x error was caused by my license file not being in the right place, which it is now, so all is good [10:45] I see... === billytwowilly [~chris@S0106000c413a2c0c.ed.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu [10:45] >> /etc/init.d/rc is that the file? === Guardiann [~Guardiann@HSE-MTL-ppp66592.qc.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu [10:46] good afternoon everyone [10:46] there is no rc.local. you can look at bootmisc.sh === bigpapa [~root@rdu162-244-044.nc.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [10:47] DAC1138, read that readme file in there. It points to a few places for info. === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu === wfx [~wfx@M1425P011.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has left #ubuntu [] [10:49] oh, a readme, i didnt see that [10:49] anyone using ubuntu as a home router? === tritium [~tritium@ee213-dhcp-14.ecn.purdue.edu] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [10:49] as a home router? [10:50] I just logged out and now I can't log back in and I know I have my username and pw correct. What could I have done? [10:50] Guardiann: yes [10:50] hmmm nope i jst bought one [10:50] Better yet, what could I do? [10:51] just curious,I wanted to use a nix box as a router/firewall mail dhcp and webserver === bitfoo [~bitfoo@rdu26-78-203.nc.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [10:51] has anyone who plays ET on hoary gotten it to work? === minde911 [~xxx@212.59.13.2] has joined #ubuntu === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu === asw [~asw@node-423a728a.bos.onnet.us.uu.net] has joined #ubuntu [10:56] quiet in here today [10:56] I just logged out and now I can't log back in and I know I have my username and pw correct. What should I do? === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [10:57] ....no responses [10:57] ill bbl === trygvebw [~trygvebw@217-189-68.adsl.tele2.no] has left #ubuntu ["Lmnar"] === scoon [~scoon@dsl092-234-243.phl1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu === swim [~joshua@ip68-228-56-67.tc.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [11:00] hay folks, how do I tell apt to hold back a certain package (not upgrade it ever) [11:00] swim: sudo aptitude hold foo === sipstar [~sipstar@h133n1fls35o828.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [11:00] anyone here running hoary notice that alsa just stopped working for an audigy2zs ? [11:01] cool thx crimsun === fc [~fc@84-104-69-109.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #ubuntu [11:01] how do I apt-get an older version of something that is already installed? [11:01] crimsun, and to reverse that? [11:02] swim: s/hold/unhold/ === mistic_ [tehLair@230.197-136-217.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu [11:02] its a SHAM [11:02] great ;) [11:03] scoon: ...just stopped working? how so? === jon1012 [~jon@AMontsouris-151-1-23-128.w82-123.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu [11:04] hi everybody :) [11:04] crimsun, well it was working just fine this am. [11:04] crimsun, after holding a package, and then running apt-get dist-upgrade apt still tries to upgrade the package.... [11:04] i have a question [11:04] how do I apt-get install an older version of something that is already installed? [11:04] crimsun, i believe that I upgraded alsa-utils today. === Quest-Master [~qmaster@c-24-99-26-36.atl.client2.attbi.com] has joined #ubuntu [11:05] crimsun, i think that could be the problem. [11:05] try using aptitude === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu === jon1012 [~jon@AMontsouris-151-1-23-128.w82-123.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #ubuntu [] === kent [~kent@c83-249-62-252.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu === NanoTek [~NanoTek@APuteaux-151-1-36-139.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu [11:05] ok [11:05] scoon: alsa-utils only has userspace packages like the mixers, aplay, arecord, ... [11:05] my question is [11:05] crimsun, how can I tell apt to hold back a package? [11:05] scoon: is there anything in ,,dmesg'' regarding it? [11:06] crimsun, well it is either that or udev and hal got upgraded as well. [11:06] make em say uhhhhhhhhhhh [11:06] crimsun, but all of my other dev's are working so i doubt it is that. === robhu [~robhu@host-212-158-206-96.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu [11:07] scoon: try closing all applications using /dev/dsp* and /dev/snd/*, sudo modprobe snd_emu10k1 && sudo modprobe snd-emu10k1, and try again === mvo_ [~egon@ip181.135.1511I-CUD12K-01.ish.de] has joined #ubuntu [11:07] scoon: sorry, the first modprobe is actually modprobe -r [11:07] Can someone please help me? I'm using ubunto hoary (I did a dist upgrade from warty), but when it starts up X won't load - when I do startx from the command line it tells me there are no screens found although if I look in xorg.conf there is a screen listed :( [11:07] crimsun, already have and no luck. === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu === dholmes [~ubuntu@chess.cs.umn.edu] has joined #ubuntu [11:09] how do i know what the correct locale is? [11:09] swim: echo somepackage hold | sudo dpkg --set-selections [11:09] A little help please :) [11:10] ah great thanks crimsun [11:10] can anyone please tell me how I can downgrade xchat [11:11] robhu: post your /var/log/Xorg.0.log to http://pastebin.ca [11:11] fc: pinning. see the ubuntu wiki === [PoVal] Dutchy [~dutchy@ipd50ae694.speed.planet.nl] has joined #ubuntu === bitfoo [~bitfoo@rdu26-78-203.nc.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu === jpedrosa [~jpedrosa@201009184141.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu [11:12] Its the Xfree86 log that has been updated, does that mean it is running XFree and not xorg? If so how can I switch them [11:12] Hi, I just started with the Ubuntu LiveCD. It seems to have the correct resolution (1680x1050) detected and set in xorg.conf, but x only starts in 640x480 and it doesn't let me switch to any other resolution. Can somebody help me use other resolutions? === norman [~norman@pc32.partai.no] has joined #ubuntu [11:12] os[Linux 2.6.10-2-686 - Debian 3.1] cpu[Pentium III (Coppermine), 451.252 MHz (894.97 bogomips)] mem[ 279.48/282.39 MB (99.0% [||||||||||] )] disk[ 3421.32/11133.66 MB (30.7% [|||-------] ) (FUJITSU MHR2020AT)] swap[ 62.7/486.30 MB (12.9% [|---------] )] video[ at 1024x768 (24 bits)] [11:13] <[PoVal] Dutchy> to upgrade the kernel, do i have to apt-get install linux-image-2.6.10-2-386 ? or something else... [11:13] [PoVal] Dutchy: from what to what? [11:13] why is kernel reported as debian? [11:13] AndyR: Ubuntu is based on Debian [11:13] i have a question. ehm. how do i set a password on my root account? === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [11:13] robhu: sudo aptitude install xserver-xorg === hidde [~hidde@136.122.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu [11:13] <[PoVal] Dutchy> 2.6.8.1.something to the latest [11:13] norman: You don't have a root account, but you would do sudo passwd root [11:13] norman: as user, "sudo su", then as root, "passwd" [11:13] Or that, yeah [11:14] robhu, i know but i was suprised [11:14] [PoVal] Dutchy: you could upgrade to Hoary. [11:14] crimsun: thankyou :) [11:14] <[PoVal] Dutchy> i did [11:14] AndyR: Its better not to have root [11:14] AndyR: Much safer :) === paul_ [~paul@host-142-204-9-69.midco.net] has joined #ubuntu [11:14] [PoVal] Dutchy: what cpu? [11:14] I have 2.4. [11:14] huh [11:14] <[PoVal] Dutchy> amd 1800+ [11:14] hi [11:14] [PoVal] Dutchy: sudo aptitude install linux-image-2.6.10-2-k7 [11:14] how do i enable root in ubuntu? === defendguin [~supertux@ip68-0-57-44.no.no.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [11:15] paul, you don't, but if you really need to you can run "sudo su" [11:15] paul_, type "sudo su" and enter your user passwd [11:15] paul_: I think if you set a password for root that enables it [11:15] yay [11:15] now i have a root account [11:15] scoon: did you check dmesg? [11:15] crimsun, yes and nothing is put out [11:15] <[PoVal] Dutchy> oh there's a k7 version... missed that in the list :) ... and dont you mean apt-get [11:16] sudo su .........no such file or directory [11:16] w00t - now my x works :D Ubuntu and you ubuntu-help people are amazing === oneifreak [~michael@S0106000f66911642.lb.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu [11:16] damn.. i fucked up my last install, so i forgot: anyone have a link for how to get ati to work on ubuntu? [11:16] is anyone else seeing websites not load sometimes in firefox 1.0 ?..yet that same website loads just fine in regular mozilla ?? [11:16] crimsun, my alsa-base is 1.0.8-2 and alsa-utils is 1.0.7-2 [11:16] norman, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto [11:16] sudo su command gets me no file or directory === Nominus [~hanzo@2001:c20:ffff:2b:0:0:0:1541] has joined #ubuntu [11:17] paul_, what do you want? === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [11:17] root priveledge [11:18] if you type sudo su, and enter your user password, you have root priveledge [11:18] :| [11:18] sudo su gives no file or directory [11:18] what do you mean? [11:19] bash: /sudu: No such file or directory [11:19] huh [11:19] its sudo [11:19] not sudu [11:19] oic [11:19] <[PoVal] Dutchy> crimsun, are you sure you meant aptitude instead of apt-get ? [11:20] hehehe "sudu" [11:21] root@ubuntu:/home/paul # apt-get install synaptic [11:21] Reading Package Lists... Done [11:21] Building Dependency Tree... Done [11:21] synaptic is already the newest version. [11:21] 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 15 not upgraded. [11:21] is that correct for installing synaptic? [11:21] synaptic is already installed [11:21] no front end tho? === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [11:22] dont see it in applications menu [11:22] its in the computer menu [11:22] ahhh ok duh [11:22] thanks for your help === foznot [~rob@216.65.180.173] has joined #ubuntu [11:23] im tring to launch my chroot, and im getting the following error when i type 'dchroot -d' [11:23] Executing shell in 'warty' chroot. [11:23] dchroot: chdir: No such file or directory [11:23] dchroot: Child exited non-zero. [11:23] dchroot: Operation failed. [11:23] is there a way to set up root in ubuntu? [11:23] anyone have time to help me with my /etc/network/interface with wireless? [11:23] paul_, why you want root? [11:24] because [11:24] # [11:24] sudo apt-get install linux-686 if you haven't already. [11:24] * [11:24] its easier to install apps from root [11:24] or -k7 or -686-smp or -386... whatever matches your kernel. [11:24] is root term not enough === will [~will@1-1-7-19a.ars.sth.bostream.se] has joined #ubuntu [11:24] and why not just use the root terminal? === nF3r [~nF3r@pool-68-161-195-111.ny325.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [11:24] im used to root thats the way i want to go [11:24] norman: who? [11:24] is there a way to see what actually fits my thingie? [11:24] i always use root [11:25] paul...use the root terminal under apps and system [11:25] bad practice IMHO [11:25] how do i see how my system is 686, 386, k7 or whatever? [11:25] ubuntu seems anal about root for some reason === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [11:26] <[PoVal] Dutchy> when a new kernel is installed, it wont work till after a reboot, right? [11:26] right [11:26] [PoVal] Dutchy: right [11:27] not dont see need for root when you can use sudo or root term [11:27] paul_: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo [11:27] danka [11:27] i need to get java runtime installed in firefox....will synaptic do that? === carbine [what@nr3-216-196-149-16.fuse.net] has joined #ubuntu [11:28] no, i dont think so === odra_dek [~JamesBond@p3E9E32C1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu [11:28] AndyR: it is hard to ssh as root when there is no root account ;) [11:28] paul_: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java [11:28] hello everybody [11:28] marcin_ant: who would want that ? [11:29] ogra: emacs users for example [11:29] i'm a newbie in ubuntu [11:29] marcin_ant, i wouldnt [11:29] i want my terminals windows to open tabbed not in new windows [11:29] anyone know how to change that? [11:29] scoon: yes, those versions aren't a big deal [11:30] is there anyone of you who can help me with the grubloader? [11:30] ogra: if you want to edit any file owned by root then you can open this with tramp [11:30] marcin_ant: i wouldnt allow root login on any of my servers .... [11:30] crimsun, i know those are not but libasound and alsa-base are of 2 different versions. I think that is the problem. [11:30] hoary is sure moving at a fast pace now [11:30] ogra: like this: /root@localhost:/etc/fstab [11:30] [PoVal] Dutchy: apt-get will succeed, too, but I prefer aptitude [11:30] crimsun, i am man reading on how to downgrade now. === foznot [~rob@216.65.180.173] has left #ubuntu [] === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [11:30] scoon: all right [11:30] marcin_ant: sudo vi /etc/fstab ? [11:30] ogra: ssh != remote [11:30] grub loader? [11:30] where are you? [11:30] ogra: ok - I can also sudo emacs [11:31] ogra: but it means that I need to open another instance of emacs [11:31] marcin_ant: so where is your prob ? [11:31] crimsun, is it save to say you don't have an audigy2 card with this problem ? [11:31] n8 === pr0d [~pr0d@h241n2c1o1052.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu === mvo__ [~egon@ip181.135.1511I-CUD12K-01.ish.de] has joined #ubuntu === tommi^ [~sir@dsl-sjkgw2c6a.dial.inet.fi] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === pr0d_ [~pr0d@h241n2c1o1052.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu [11:32] ogra: and for example in emacs you have configuration file in ~/.emacs [11:32] orga so when you will open emacs as root then you will have different config === Guardiann [~Guardiann@HSE-MTL-ppp66592.qc.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu === mdz [~mdz@69-167-148-207.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu === water [~water@c-24-19-38-90.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu === thehanna [~hanna@ip68-2-119-141.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [11:34] hey does ubuntu have a graphical interface? === thehanna is now known as DrSpin [11:34] <[PoVal] Dutchy> ... [11:34] you mean gnome? === scotth [~scotth@stroustrup.csee.wvu.edu] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [11:34] carbine, yes === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [11:35] excellent [11:35] IRC Question: how can I get register a new nick with NickServ... I can't remmber [11:35] i found it last night and i'm installing it on one of my puters [11:35] ./msg nickserv register [11:35] thanks! === DrSpin is now known as thehanna [11:35] then ./msg nickserv identify [11:36] can i install from the hoary iso? === will [~will@1-1-7-19a.ars.sth.bostream.se] has joined #ubuntu [11:36] pepsi yes === thehanna [~hanna@ip68-2-119-141.ph.ph.cox.net] has left #ubuntu [] [11:37] k, cause i heard a while back that you should install warty and upgrade from there [11:37] which i did === thehanna [~hanna@ip68-2-119-141.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu === thehanna [~hanna@ip68-2-119-141.ph.ph.cox.net] has left #ubuntu [] [11:37] on this computer [11:37] that will work also === nF3r [~nF3r@pool-68-161-195-111.ny325.east.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu [] [11:38] hi. can't find this in the FAQs: can ubuntu be installed onto an existing ReiserFS (not 4) partition without data loss? [11:38] pepsi, i dont think it makes much difference === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu === Kokey [~ubunturer@201.137.168.75] has joined #ubuntu === mdz [~mdz@69-167-148-207.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu === jeebes [~jeebes@dhcp024-208-191-200.columbus.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [11:41] hello [11:41] hi [11:42] hi [11:42] hi [11:42] quick question, is it possible to install kde on ubuntu? === ephic [~ephic@68.184.7.52] has joined #ubuntu [11:42] hmm [11:42] some one here said they have [11:42] would be nice if there was a partition resizer in the installer [11:42] it's in the faq's [11:42] about kde [11:42] also can I install a bare version of ubuntu like debian, and just install what I want, or does it comes with lots of stuff a la knoppix [11:43] ok , my friend with ubuntu, he has an intel card.. and and nvidia .. the intel's internal.. it picked that up.. how does he install the nividia-source-kernel from bash? [11:43] you can deselect items after you install === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [11:43] he tried apt-get install nv [11:43] jeebes, yeah you can do a custom install which doesn't include any GUI stuff then add what you need [11:43] it is not very bloated tho [11:43] is there a shell browser with ubuntu? [11:44] great [11:44] ephic, goto www.ubuntuguide.org [11:44] and it runs well on quite lowend h/w [11:44] ephic, lots of good stuff there === br33zy [~br33zy@66-27-118-223.san.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [11:44] scoon: that is correct. I have an M-Audio Transit. [11:44] I'm just getting fed up with debian, mainly the graphics acceleration doesn't work properly for a radeon 7500, is there any reason to think it might work better on ubuntu === housetier_ is now known as housetier [11:44] ephic: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDirverHowto [11:44] quick question: how recent are the packages of ubuntu usually? [11:45] hello - can someone help me with gprs modem installation? [11:45] ephic: sorry, typo http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto [11:45] ah, ubuntuguide.org is very helpful [11:45] does ubuntu live have gpart on it? === water [~water@c-24-19-38-90.client.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu [] [11:45] jeebes, follow the link that ogra posted ^^ [11:45] br33zy, depends if your using warty or hoary [11:45] also, can ubuntu use the regular debian reposities or do I have to use special ubuntu ones [11:45] ok I'll do that [11:45] swim, not by default but it is in universe [11:45] AndyR, i'm guessing warty is stable, so in warty === will [~will@1-1-7-19a.ars.sth.bostream.se] has joined #ubuntu [11:46] anyone know off hand how to install the latest kernel? [11:47] br33zy, sorry, not sure as im using hoary (unstable) === aardvark [~aardvark@outbound.gettyimages.com] has joined #ubuntu [11:47] see Ive got this issue: I need to install winXP breifly to flash my bios (bloody lame) so I was going to install it on the swap part (1g) and flash bios, then go back and reformat the xp part as swap again. But during that process the mbr will be written over by xp... [11:47] AndyR, is hoary really unstable? === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [11:47] hoary = very stable here === bitfoo [~bitfoo@rdu26-78-203.nc.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [11:48] stable here as well [11:48] graet, cool [11:48] thanks for the help [11:48] i think there is a long line of sound problems with hoary :| [11:48] br33zy: be aware that it can still break ... its in development ;) [11:49] i have 0 music in tux racer :| [11:49] i find hoary more stable than warty [11:49] quick question [11:49] i has some sound problems with hoary but they are all fixed :) [11:49] when hoary is out will I be able to do an apt-get upgrade to upgrade from warty to hoary ? === faxons [~faxons@66-224-168-39.atgi.net] has joined #ubuntu [11:50] there have been days when packages break but they are fixed pretty quick [11:50] doesnt ubuntu come with the NV driver? === thehanna [~hanna@ip68-2-119-141.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [11:50] x isnt recognizing this driver when i edit it [11:50] any 1 ? [11:50] ephic: it comes with the nv driver ... === Potn [~potnhbug@ip129-167.bacs-net.hu] has joined #ubuntu [11:50] upgrd from warty -> hoary ? [11:50] aardvark yes [11:50] ya.. so how would you tell x to work with the nv driver? [11:50] yo can do it now [11:50] Guardiann, thkx [11:51] using dist-upgrade? [11:51] yw [11:51] when I log in with a user that can't install packages and I try and load synaptic it just dies with no error message... [11:51] apt-get dist-upgrade, does that update from woarty to hoary? [11:51] aardvark, yes you can easily do that [11:51] ephic: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [11:51] ephic: you have to change your sources.list from warty to hoary... === Guest316276 [~dopp0@201.12.77.13] has joined #ubuntu [11:51] is the live cd the same as the installer cd, can I install from it === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [11:52] jeebes: no === granted [~jack@ca-bordeaux-8-54.w80-8.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu [11:52] anyone here ever work with HP OpenView ????? [11:52] ok [11:52] drspin, how did you make out with your upgrade to Hoary ? === magiccheese [~warty@ip68-107-185-118.lu.dl.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [11:52] hi there.. I'm having problems with ubuntu + my cable connection of internet (which used dhcp) [11:52] jeebes: a livecd is a specialized binary distro designed to run from a CD... [11:52] i have a problem guys [11:52] does it involve cheese [11:52] :) [11:52] does ubuntu have its own repositories or does it use debian ones [11:52] its own [11:52] jeebes, its own [11:53] cool === Guest316276 is now known as dopp0 [11:53] jeebes: archive.ubuntu.com [11:53] jeebes: I suppose you *could* install from it but you don't want that kind of hassle -- just install warty then do a dist-upgrade, it'd be much much easier [11:53] less packages? [11:53] jeebes: fewer, yes [11:53] how do i open mp3s? [11:53] do i need a special codec? [11:53] can someone help me out with dhcp problems? [11:53] jeebes, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GuideToHoary [11:53] its be easier to just download the latest install cd image :| [11:53] Peter, carefully ! [11:53] of hoary [11:53] can you just change you sources.list to use regular deb sources [11:53] i hit ctrl alt backspace and now i have a blackscreen [11:53] Peter, cat file.mp3 :-D [11:53] aardvark: i bet [11:53] bitfoo: didn't know there was an install image ;) sorry [11:53] Peter: enable universe and install 'gstreamer0.8-mad', then play them with Music Player [11:53] :) [11:53] Peter, install gstreamer0.8-mad [11:53] Peter, apt-get install xmms [11:53] br33zy: LOL [11:54] HAH - [11:54] i tried restarting and it takes me to the same screen [11:54] crimsun: it's called rhytmbox [11:54] XMMS defaults to the Gstreamer plugin on ubuntu ;) [11:54] magiccheese, did you update your x-server? [11:54] is warty the equivelant of debian testing [11:54] and hoary is unstable? [11:54] jeebes, yes kinda [11:54] jeebes: sort of yeah [11:54] and there is no 'stable' [11:54] yes earlier [11:54] warty is stable :/ === granted [~jack@ca-bordeaux-8-54.w80-8.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #ubuntu [] [11:55] magiccheese, why magiccheese ? [11:55] warty, hoary, grumpy [11:55] :| [11:55] bitfoo: reasonably stable. Still bugs tho. [11:55] out of curiosity [11:55] yeah still a few [11:55] longstory [11:55] lol whats grumpy [11:55] you're names are killing me, heh [11:55] i think its the next one :| [11:55] so you just change repositories to hoarty? [11:55] jeebes: grumpy groundhog [11:55] and it installs hoarty? [11:55] yes the naming is a little strange [11:55] ephic, it's hoary [11:55] ephic, yes [11:55] ah yes [11:55] hoary hedgehog [11:55] my bad. [11:55] typo [11:55] k thanks === Xip [~Xip@c-24-7-239-197.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [11:55] who decides the naming ? [11:56] well i mean its just as bad as sid, sarge, and the other [11:56] heh [11:56] ephic hoary [11:56] warty warthog, hoary hedgehog, grumpy groundhog === vtg [vertigo@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu [11:56] I suppose, but come on hoary? [11:56] heh [11:56] who decides the naming ????????/ [11:56] ok where do you get the hoary repo's? [11:56] aardvark, someone with a sense of humour [11:56] You guys already seem much nicer than the debian folks, [11:56] on the first boot does it take forever for it to go through and unpack everything? [11:56] anyone else that can help with ubuntu+dhcp? [11:56] hidde, hmmm cracked [11:56] you sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list and change all instances of warty to hoary [11:57] then apt-get update [11:57] ephic, mod your /etc/apt/sources.list and replace al 'warty' with 'hoary' [11:57] apt-get dist-upgrade [11:57] oh lol thats it? [11:57] dopp0, whats the issue [11:57] k thanks [11:57] aardvark: i installed xmms, but it locks up when i play an mp3. [11:57] or download daily build and install from cd :| [11:57] aardvark: I can't let the dhcp connection up [11:57] well worth doing IMO [11:57] hidde: (yes, I know it's called Rhythmbox) [11:57] Peter, you might have to go to preferences and change your sound output to esound [11:57] aardvark, considering your name, you should like that sense of humour. [11:57] what kernal is default in .... warty [11:57] it gives the DHCPDISCOVER, DHCPOFFER and DHCPREQUESTs on var/log/syslog.. but does NOTHING [11:57] 2.4? === jack [~jack@host-142-204-9-69.midco.net] has joined #ubuntu [11:57] crimsun: Then call the beasty by it's name [11:58] anyone got any ideas [11:58] hidde, dude its an african thing [11:58] bitfoo: preferences in xmms? [11:58] ephic: after you change anything in the sources.list you need to run sudo apt-get update first to refresh the package list [11:58] anybody know how to set up tvtime or xawtv on ubuntu? [11:58] Peter, right click > options > preferences, change output plugin to esounds :| [11:58] i would be inclined to d/l snapshot cd image if i had more than 1 comp to do though [11:58] hidde: generally I try to be helpful. Is there any reason you're brusque with me? [11:58] Couldn't stat source package list http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-security/ restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary- security_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) [11:58] ??? [11:58] aardvark: i know, but it's also a production studio. wallace&grommit and chicken run. [11:58] aardvark: any idea? [11:59] crimsun: sorry. I just had my /dev/hda1 die on me, that must be it. :-S [11:59] I tried by hand, by X, ... [11:59] whats the best tv tuner program to run on ubuntu? [11:59] jack, try tvtime [11:59] ephic, deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security main restricted [11:59] crimsun, brusque is a nice word [11:59] :| [11:59] ephic: did you read what i wrote ? === eruin [~eruin@eruin.user] has joined #ubuntu [11:59] i installed that hidde...but it wont start [11:59] jack, what's the problem? [11:59] ah ok. [11:59] oh yah ogra, maybe he didnt update [11:59] :| [11:59] update then upgrade :O [12:00] so can you install konqueror from the ubuntu sources or dont they let any kde stuff in