[12:00] <HaRDaWaY> hi
[12:00] <paulsth> LarstiQ, great! I'll look at the docs
[12:00] <geppy> LarstiQ:  Any ideas?  I rebuilt the module, to no avail.
[12:00] <HrdwrBoB> squeaky: ah
[12:00] <Agamotto> LarstiQ:  Know anything about the Dlink USB devices?
[12:00] <ALTF4osu> hmm... wireless.. another q about using ndiswrapper for wireless access
[12:00] <squeaky> HrdwrBoB: yea :'-(
[12:01] <saif> ok thanx, one more thing, in order to get xine to output sound, i change a value in the configuration the audio src from osssc ( or somethn like that ) to alse, coz there obviously is somethn wrong with oss too, and now the sound is working, what i want to change now, is the mixer shortcut in the panel, the one there now says i don't have any soundcards! but alsa mixer is working fine!
[12:01] <LarstiQ> Agamotto: http://www.linux-wlan.org/docs/wlan_adapters.html.gz
[12:01] <gort_> what is the deal in getting *.wmv files (windows codecs) to play in gstreamer/totem?
[12:01] <bluefoxicy> damnit gstreamer!
[12:01] <geppy> gort:  Use the marillat repository's "w32codecs"
[12:02] <Agamotto> You have to apt-get 'w32codecs' if memory serves, from the universe servers
[12:02] <shock> hoyas... is evoltion ****ed for anyone else running hoary?
[12:02] <LarstiQ> Agamotto: I once ordered a Linksys card which was ok for revisions 1 to 3, but in revision 4 Linksys changed the hardware without changing the model, nicely tripped me up
[12:02] <LarstiQ> geppy: can't think of anything right now :/
[12:02] <geppy> LarstiQ:  Alright, thanks.
[12:02] <bluefoxicy> LarstiQ:  DLink DWL 650 revision P based on the adm8211 chipset instead of the prism54 or omincron chipset
[12:02] <HrdwrBoB> LarstiQ: yeah they'll do that
[12:03] <bluefoxicy> I have one.
[12:03] <Agamotto> Linux Format recommended the Dlink Airplus stuff, and nada
[12:03] <LarstiQ> Agamotto: so, that could be easily the case for you too
[12:03] <ALTF4osu> wow... i'm so clueless ... any good online books for people to learn linux commands, etc?
[12:03] <squeaky> umm...
[12:03] <bluefoxicy> LarstiQ:  what I want is my netgear usb prism54 based wifi to work :)
[12:03] <HrdwrBoB> LarstiQ: like the netgear FA310TX which was a tulip and the FA311TX which was a giant pile of garbage and an entirely different chipset
[12:03] <LarstiQ> heya bluefoxicy :)
[12:03] <bluefoxicy> hi :)
[12:03] <bluefoxicy> LarstiQ: wine dude right?  :)
[12:03] <LarstiQ> bluefoxicy: that, and #demoscene
[12:03] <bluefoxicy> LarstiQ:  heh
[12:04] <bitfoo> <- beer dude :|
[12:04] <LarstiQ> HrdwrBoB: uh huh
[12:04] <Agamotto> Wierd thing is that the Device manager under Ubuntu knows what it is, but can't seem to do anything with it
[12:04] <bluefoxicy> LarstiQ:  I've been interested in ubuntu because 1) it's clean looking and 2) the devs are receptive
[12:04] <bitfoo> you mean gnome is clean looking?
[12:04] <Ng> Agamotto: calling that a "manager" is really stretching things, all it does is display devices ;)
[12:04] <njan> Agamotto, the Device Manager recognising it just means that it sees the hardware and can identify it; it doesn't mean that the kernel has a driver for it
[12:04] <LarstiQ> Agamotto: does it show up in iwconfig output?
[12:04] <squeaky> HrdwrBoB: any ideas?
[12:04] <bluefoxicy> so I've been watching and hoping the hardened debian project can get some real work done and get these guys secured; so far a few devs seem up for it ;)  I like this distro
[12:05] <mebaran151> anybody able to explain how to setup a securely firewalled ftp server
[12:05] <bluefoxicy> LarstiQ:  of course, right now I'm beating gstreamer trying to make rhythmbox play to my desktop
[12:05] <Agamotto> LarstiQ:  No, it doesn't show up in iwconfig
[12:05] <HrdwrBoB> mebaran151: haha
[12:05] <mebaran151> yeah
[12:05] <bitfoo> :|
[12:05] <mebaran151> I set up an ftp server
[12:05] <bluefoxicy> because I have music on my laptop that's 8 gigs wide
[12:05] <bluefoxicy> and 2 gigs free on my desktop.
[12:05] <mebaran151> but it sort of didnt feel very secure
[12:05] <bitfoo> did you install gstreamer0.8-plugins
[12:05] <mebaran151> HrdwrBoB: that is not very nice
[12:05] <HrdwrBoB> mebaran151: sorry
[12:05] <LarstiQ> Agamotto: ok, first thing would be to figure out if there is support for that piece of hardware at all, the adapter page I pasted is fairly comprehensive
[12:05] <HrdwrBoB> FTP is inherently not really a 'secure' protocol
[12:06] <mebaran151> HrdwrBoB: just kidding with you
[12:06] <bluefoxicy> bitfoo: yes but gstreamer-properties doesn't give me ip address config or any hints
[12:06] <mebaran151> I know that very well
[12:06] <bluefoxicy> bitfoo:  and there's no NAS target
[12:06] <HrdwrBoB> but in any case, if all it's running is FTP
[12:06] <HrdwrBoB> a firewall isn't about to change the secureness of it
[12:06] <bitfoo> oh you want to stream it remotely?
[12:06] <bluefoxicy> yeah
[12:06] <bitfoo> ohh
[12:06] <bluefoxicy> I want to strema to ESD or NAS on my desktop
[12:06] <bitfoo> i didnt know you could do that :|
[12:06] <mebaran151> HrdwrBoB: not really
[12:06] <neighborlee> anyone know about how long ubuntuguide.org is to be offline ?
[12:06] <Agamotto> Ok, bbiab
[12:06] <mebaran151> it is also my desktop
[12:06] <bluefoxicy> ESD and NAS let you
[12:06] <mebaran151> this is my do everythign comp
[12:06] <bluefoxicy> but I don't know if gstreamer can do it
[12:06] <bitfoo> thats awesome :|
[12:06] <HrdwrBoB> mebaran151: I meant in terms of open ports
[12:06] <mebaran151> oh yeah
[12:07] <bluefoxicy> gstreamer has an esd plugin
[12:07] <Br34ch> /home/John/Desktop/LDP-Author-Guide.ps.gz <--I saved this .. guide there. Someone please tell me how I can extract it so I can view it . . . ? :s
[12:07] <bluefoxicy> and a NAS one apparently, though ubuntu doesn't have it
[12:07] <mebaran151> I woudl probably just leave port 80 and port 21 open
[12:07] <mebaran151> but how do I configure that in iptables
[12:07] <mebaran151> I never have really done this sort of thing in Linux
[12:07] <bitfoo> gunzip LDP-Author-Guide.ps.gz
[12:07] <bitfoo> :|
[12:07] <mebaran151> done it in windows
[12:07] <mebaran151> I dlled proftp
[12:07] <elJo-> mebaran151: i'd go for shorewall as firewall and vsftpd as ftp server
[12:08] <mebaran151> I never got the difference between all the ftp servers
[12:08] <king_arthur> bitfoo: that looks like postscript printer file
[12:08] <AndyR> hi all
[12:08] <bitfoo> ohh
[12:08] <mirsad> hi AndyR, hi all
[12:08] <bitfoo> :|
[12:08] <HrdwrBoB> mebaran151: there's not a huge difference realistically
[12:09] <kent> is there some one who knows how to use phpwiki and can help me with the photoalbum plugin, outside this channel?
[12:09] <bluefoxicy> LarstiQ:  you want something entertaining?
[12:09] <AndyR> MacPlusG3, ubuntu running on the g3?
[12:09] <Br34ch> I'm a nub.. trying linux for the first time. thanks bitfoo
[12:09] <bitfoo> ;] 
[12:09] <elJo-> mebaran151: vsftpd stands for "very secure"... exageration or not, kernel.org seem to like it ;)
[12:09] <Br34ch> The browsing syntax is a little bit confusing to me . . . be default, it seeks default and you don't have to mention any dir's?
[12:09] <squeaky> anyone?
[12:10] <mirsad> i installed ubuntu for the first time and the mouse doesn't work
[12:10] <mebaran151> elJo-: are there any gui tools to set it up
[12:10] <bitfoo> you should just ftp through ssh tunnels if you are worried about security ;|
[12:10] <mebaran151> and how do I deal with shorewall
[12:10] <HrdwrBoB> elJo-: vsftpd also has a 'run after upload' script, which is why I've used it
[12:10] <mebaran151> never used it before
[12:10] <LarstiQ> bluefoxicy: entertaining?
[12:10] <bitfoo> or maybe require ssl? :(
[12:10] <nevyn> bitfoo: sftp scp vpns and whatever insecure crap you like.
[12:10] <bluefoxicy> LarstiQ:  google for 'peter guttman "sound wave"' and click I'm Feeling Lucky
[12:10] <elJo-> mebaran151: i don't know. if you're completely new to firewalls (and don't want to know much more than you do know :) than it's probably a bit too complex
[12:11] <LarstiQ> bluefoxicy: ah yes, I know that one
[12:11] <bluefoxicy> :)
[12:11] <bitfoo> nevyn, ?
[12:11] <elJo-> mebaran151: i just happen to like it, that's why i mentioned it ;)
[12:11] <bluefoxicy> LarstiQ: then try 'French military victories'
[12:11] <mebaran151> elJo-: I am at the moment impartial
[12:11] <nevyn> bitfoo: nm
[12:11] <mebaran151> I have only run Windows ftp
[12:11] <bitfoo> :|
[12:11] <mebaran151> for the hell of it
[12:12] <mebaran151> how do I set up shorewall first of all
[12:12] <elJo-> mebaran151: i believe there's a simpler one.. wait a sec
[12:12] <AndyR> apt-get install gftp ?
[12:12] <LarstiQ> bluefoxicy: hehe
[12:12] <mebaran151> elJo-: I was using firestarter
[12:12] <geppy|away> LarstiQ:  I think I'll just give Agnula a try.  =)
[12:12] <mebaran151> but now that I have a server running off this machine I doubt it will be sufficient
[12:12] <bluefoxicy> yay
[12:12] <elJo-> mebaran151: aah yes, that's the one :)
[12:12] <bluefoxicy> it took 3 days but i Got all the ocremix torrents
[12:13] <LarstiQ> bluefoxicy: woha
[12:13] <LarstiQ> bluefoxicy: but, now you have to keep up
[12:13] <mebaran151> elJo-: shorewall?
[12:13] <bitfoo> wtf it takes forever to recompile the kernel :|
[12:13] <mebaran151> I was using the ipmasq pkg
[12:13] <elJo-> mebaran151: it should be. just block everything but port 21
[12:13] <bluefoxicy> LarstiQ:  did you read the tag on Megaman X AIrbased?
[12:14] <christor> Is someone has an idea how listen mms url (streaming radio) on ubuntu using a proxy?
[12:15] <elJo-> mebaran151: make sure to check for security updates regularly. apt-get is your friend :)
[12:15] <LarstiQ> bluefoxicy: no?
[12:15] <bluefoxicy> LarstiQ:  original composer="Some god at Capcom"
[12:15] <elJo-> mebaran151: firestarter really should suffice.
[12:16] <saif> i just tred ejecting a cd, i got aan error message saying the it was a wrong argument, now the desktop icon disappeared, but the cd is still inside, and i can't remove it! how do i eject it form the shell?
[12:16] <elJo-> saif: eject
[12:16] <saif> elJo: unable to eject: Invalid Argument
[12:17] <saif> elJo: that is the message i get!
[12:17] <Agamotto> Turn off the computer, and use a paper clip
[12:17] <bitfoo> :|
[12:17] <elJo-> saif: try mount
[12:17] <Agamotto> and then umount
[12:17] <geppy|away> saif:  eject /dev/cdrom
[12:17] <elJo-> Agamotto: exactly :)
[12:17] <saif> Agamotto: thanx, but i am sure there a normal way to do it!
[12:18] <Agamotto> siaf:  you use the word normal as if it applies to Linux
[12:18] <elJo-> saif: with linux, there is no "normal way" ;))
[12:18] <elJo-> Agamotto: :)
[12:18] <bitfoo> they mean there are no standards :|
[12:18] <bluefoxicy> with linux there's no way to do anything
[12:18] <bluefoxicy> then God conceived a child of a virgin and named him 'root'
[12:19] <bluefoxicy> root proceeded to show people the way and the light, by installing programs like rhythmbox and abiword and gnome
[12:19] <Agamotto> bluefoxicy:  Just as I can accept that God said 'Let there be light!,' hence the big bang
[12:19] <elJo-> bitfoo: TMTOWTDI :)
[12:19] <Br34ch> bitfoo: if the extension is something like .tar.gz.. ? I'd still have to do the same thing?
[12:19] <bitfoo> no
[12:19] <saif> elJo: not good! i tried what every asked me but the paper clip thingie, mount and unmounting didn't do it, even mounting ejecting, doesn't do it! should i really use a paper clip?!?
[12:19] <bluefoxicy> Agamotto: God said, "This'll be cool."  Then he lit the Big Cherry Bomb and ran
[12:20] <bitfoo> tar.gz is "tar <options> filename"
[12:20] <rempresent> ok
[12:20] <bitfoo> like usually tar xzf or something
[12:20] <elJo-> saif: mount tells you it's still mounted?
[12:20] <rempresent> i am having ftp server set up problems
[12:20] <Agamotto> saif:  Yep, option of the last resort, but please make sure you turn off the system first, as it can turn your disc into a violent frisbee
[12:20] <bitfoo> do man tar to learn more :|
[12:20] <rempresent> how to make the address of my ftp different from my ip address
[12:20] <bitfoo> elJo-, wtf was that lol :|
[12:20] <saif> nop, mount mounts it!!
[12:20] <bluefoxicy> Br34ch: zcat foo.tar.gz | tar x
[12:20] <Br34ch> bitfoo: It's a simply html.tar.gz.. how do the options go about?
[12:20] <saif> and i get the icon back on the desktop!
[12:20] <elJo-> bitfoo: perl's mantra
[12:21] <Agamotto> Hrm, then umount should unmount it and allow eject
[12:21] <rempresent> whoever has an ftp server and would liek to help me pm me
[12:21] <elJo-> saif: no, just type "mount" :)
[12:21] <elJo-> saif: it'll tell you if and where it is mounted
[12:21] <saif> Agamatto: i guess there is no should in linux!
[12:21] <bitfoo> soo
[12:21] <bitfoo> tar -xzf html.tar.bz
[12:21] <bitfoo> gz*
[12:21] <elJo-> saif: linux is illusion.
[12:21] <Br34ch> LDP-Author-Guide.html.tar.gz  <-- How would the options differ to begin with? What is needed to be true to tweak through the options?
[12:21] <Agamotto> siaf:  For most things, no
[12:21] <Br34ch> Got it
[12:21] <mebaran151> also
[12:21] <bitfoo> or double click in gnome and extract from fileroller
[12:21] <bitfoo> or right click and "Extract here"
[12:21] <bitfoo> :|
[12:22] <saif> elJo:   i got a list of mounted stuff, but the cdrom isn't one of them
[12:22] <mebaran151> anyone had success with the nforce 3
[12:22] <Shanachien1> Hey all - anyone here run an install on a 12" Powerbook G4, using the latest Ubuntu Live release?
[12:22] <elJo-> saif: no /media/cdrom* ?
[12:22] <saif> eljo: nop!
[12:22] <liquidboy> hey, ive just installed xp in my 1st partition, and am wanting to transfer files from ubuntu to windows, hwo do i get write permission (im using the live cd, cos xp stuffed up grub)
[12:22] <elJo-> saif: interesting.
[12:23] <Agamotto> Shanachien1:  I would assume that install on a Mac would require Yellow Dog linux
[12:23] <HrdwrBoB> no
[12:23] <elJo-> saif: but you see the icon on your desktop?
[12:23] <HrdwrBoB> not at all
[12:23] <Shanachien1> Agamotto - hmm I don't think so...
[12:23] <bitfoo> i dont think you can write to ntfs partitions, only read them
[12:23] <liquidboy> bugger
[12:23] <bitfoo> i think they have to be fat32 or fat16 to be able to write in win and linux
[12:23] <saif> elJO : for u it's interresting, no i don't c the icon on the dekstop, the icon disappereared whe i tried to eject!
[12:23] <liquidboy> oh right
[12:23] <Agamotto> I could be wrong, but that is the only flavour I have heard of for Macs
[12:23] <liquidboy> i wasnt a
[12:23] <Shanachien1> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/hoary/array-3.5-live/
[12:23] <Shanachien1> you can get it from there for PPC agamotto
[12:23] <liquidboy> i wasnt able to do do it with fat32 either
[12:24] <Agamotto> Coolies
[12:24] <Agamotto> I have learned something today
[12:24] <Shanachien1> Just oddly did not recognise most of the hardware
[12:24] <Shanachien1> which considering most G4 have identical hardware thought it would have... was wondering if anyone else had any joy iwth drivers etc..
[12:24] <elJo-> saif: and what does a "mount /media/cdrom0 && eject" do?
[12:24] <Shanachien1> (the issue being it is stuck at 640x480 res)
[12:24] <saif> elJo: i just remounted it, and when i typed mount i got /media/cdrom0
[12:24] <kbrooks_> is update-rc.d available on warty without universe repoistory?
[12:24] <bitfoo> liquidboy, http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#windows
[12:24] <bitfoo> :|
[12:25] <elJo-> saif: and if you try to eject it now?
[12:25] <Agamotto> If you need to change res, try the ctrl-alt+/- key trick
[12:25] <Shanachien1> Agamotto - does that actually change the res, or just resize the windows?
[12:25] <bitfoo> now, maybe someone can answer me how long kernel compilation should take on a new machine :|
[12:25] <saif> elJo: unable to eject, last error: invalid argment
[12:25] <saif> elJo: and it umounts it!
[12:25] <Agamotto> Shanachien1:  Changes the res for X
[12:26] <kbrooks_> is update-rc.d available on warty without universe repoistory?
[12:26] <saif> elJo: paperclip??
[12:26] <elJo-> saif: what does eject -v tell you?
[12:26] <bitfoo> i dunno why i have all these scsi drivers compiling :|
[12:26] <Shanachien1> Agamotto: may try that then....
[12:26] <Agamotto> bitfoo:  Optimistically, 2hrs
[12:26] <bitfoo> ohh ok
[12:26] <bitfoo> i thought it took minutes
[12:26] <bitfoo> :|
[12:27] <kbrooks_> i need mplayer on ubuntu
[12:27] <elJo-> saif: before using the paperclip tho i'd try rebooting and pressing the button :)
[12:27] <kbrooks_> i need mplayer on ubuntu
[12:27] <kbrooks_> i need mplayer on ubuntu
[12:27] <kbrooks_> can anyone please help
[12:27] <geppy|away> kbrooks_:  Get XINE, and stop flooding.
[12:28] <saif> elJo: well, it tells me alot of stuff, i guess the interresint parts are that, /cdrom is a link to /media/cdrom0/ and that it is a multipartition( hdc) and the eject failed!
[12:28] <AndyR> gxine works nicely here
[12:28] <bitfoo> kbrooks_, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=94
[12:28] <Agamotto> krbrooks_:  Have you added the universe servers to your synaptic/apt-get?
[12:28] <bitfoo> that will tell you how to get mplayer :|
[12:28] <elJo-> saif: ok, i give up.
[12:28] <saif> elJo: too bad though, i hate getting into such stuff, especially after getting really happy with it yesterday when apache and mysql started working, and i got the monodevlop and i thought everything is running fine!
[12:28] <Agamotto> I do have to state that I love apt-get over the rpm method
[12:29] <elJo-> saif: maybe it's just A Random Glitch (TM)
[12:29] <bitfoo> i think emerge might be best :|
[12:29] <bitfoo> or close to apt-get
[12:29] <liquidboy> the other thing, how do i reinstall grub (xp stuffed it up)
[12:29] <bitfoo> dunno :/
[12:29] <oscarian> liquidboy, do you have a boot disk?
[12:30] <bitfoo> i always had xp installed first :|
[12:30] <elJo-> saif: like, when my desktop icons of mounted cd drives vanished 5 mins ago. why? i have no idea.
[12:30] <saif> elJo: maybe! but that's one black point on ubuntu
[12:30] <liquidboy> bitfoo: ive got the install disc, and the live cd
[12:30] <bitfoo> i dunno :|
[12:30] <liquidboy> (myfriend gave me a copy, in the cardboard case thing)
[12:30] <saif> elJo : hehehe, maybe u didn't use them for a while and there is a timeout!
[12:30] <bitfoo> ask oscarian :|
[12:30] <Agamotto> saif:  It sometimes happens under Fedora as well
[12:30] <liquidboy> well, the main thing now is to get the files...
[12:30] <liquidboy> :P
[12:31] <bitfoo> the files are IN the computer!?!?!?
[12:31] <elJo-> saif: good theory. yet they didn't reappear as i remounted the disc :)
[12:31] <liquidboy> maybe ill have to plug in an external hard drive
[12:31] <liquidboy> yep
[12:31] <bitfoo> its from a movie hehe :|
[12:31] <liquidboy> i had win98 on the first partition, and linux on the 2nd. i moved all the files i wanted to keep from windows onto linux, installed windows...
[12:31] <bitfoo> zoolander :|
[12:31] <liquidboy> bitfoo... lol, i just realised that:p
[12:31] <saif> elJo: pitty my theory failed i guess!! success! i restarted and the cd is out!
[12:32] <elJo-> saif: and don't even get me started on trying to feed a large music collection to rhythmbox
[12:32] <rempresent> question
[12:32] <elJo-> saif: told you :)
[12:32] <liquidboy> i'm going to see if i can get windows to read my linux partition...
[12:32] <elJo-> rempresent: 42
[12:32] <liquidboy> ill probably be back to ask more questions :P
[12:32] <UZ1> hey. how do i install rpm packages with ubuntu, rpm commands don't work
[12:32] <rempresent> how do i copy the whole contents of a file, like a select all option, with the terminal
[12:32] <saif> elJo: i didn't like rhthembox, think xmms is much better!
[12:32] <oscarian> liquidboy, you have to boot in via the disc, then you have to edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst, er, then...lemee check
[12:33] <rempresent> 42?
[12:33] <oscarian> oh well
[12:33] <elJo-> saif: yes, but it's based on GTK 1.2 and that's like 5 years old... and it shows :)
[12:33] <elJo-> rempresent: cp
[12:33] <Agamotto> UZ1:  I believe there is something called 'alien' that does that
[12:33] <UZ1> yes
[12:33] <rempresent> cp (what command here?)
[12:34] <saif> elJo: well, at least it's wroking fine! window95 was built 10 years ago and it does't lock my cds!
[12:34] <saif> eljo: just crashes!
[12:34] <bitfoo> cant you jsut press the eject button :/
[12:35] <saif> bitfoo: nop u can't!
[12:35] <UZ1> i want to install an ATI rpm driver to ubuntu, i tryed  rpm -Uh --force fglrx_4_1_0 -8.8.25-1.i386.rpm and also tryed to convert it to .deb, but it dowsnt work
[12:35] <saif> bitfoo: to be more accurate, i couldn't!
[12:35] <elJo-> saif: :)
[12:35] <bitfoo> UZ1, why dont you install the ubuntu driver?
[12:35] <UZ1> because it doesnt support radeon 9800 pro
[12:35] <UZ1> only 9800
[12:35] <saif> elJo: you got ubuntu on a laptop?
[12:36] <Agamotto> Ahhh, because the card has newer features...
[12:36] <bitfoo> ihmm
[12:36] <elJo-> saif: back when i got a laptop, yes :)
[12:36] <bitfoo> thats the latest version though right?
[12:36] <bitfoo> its on the repositories i think :|
[12:36] <elJo-> saif: eh, had, not got
[12:36] <saif> elJO: so did u try using the tvout?! or the IR? those 2 things i haven't tried yet, should i try them?! or will i get disapointed?
[12:36] <bitfoo> OpenGL version string: 1.3.4769 (X4.3.0-8.8.25)
[12:37] <bitfoo> IR works i think but you might need some fiddling
[12:37] <elJo-> saif: tvout worked out of the box for me
[12:37] <elJo-> saif: but the laptop was an older one
[12:37] <bitfoo> how do you enable the tvout O______o
[12:37] <AndyR> i havent tried IR as i havent nneded it
[12:37] <elJo-> saif: SIR should be easy, but you only get 115 kBit with it
[12:38] <saif> elJo: aha, coz i thnkg this intel chipset viedo card is a bitch, what 115kBit?!
[12:38] <elJo-> saif: FIR (4MBit) is a little bit harder. A little bit impossible if you don't have one of about 4 supported chipsets, too :)
[12:38] <elJo-> saif: yes :)
[12:39] <saif> elJo: hmmmmmmm, and i guess if in the device manager it doesn't say that it deteced an IR, it's impossible?!
[12:40] <elJo-> saif: no, it just means you need to get ready to dive deeper ;)
[12:40] <saif> elJo: iam not really a good diver, trying taking diving ourses once, turns out iam sick in the head, and can't handle pressue!
[12:40] <elJo-> saif: sudo apt-get install irda-utils would be a good start
[12:41] <saif> i already did that!
[12:41] <elJo-> saif: fine
[12:41] <rempresent> hey, what is the format that i would type to access my ftp server in a browser
[12:41] <LarstiQ> rempresent: ftp://servername :)
[12:42] <saif> elJo: but i donno the device name to attach, not the dongle!
[12:42] <rempresent> what if i have a username and password?
[12:42] <elJo-> saif: ok.. now whatwasitagain...
[12:43] <LarstiQ> rempresent: ftp://user:pass@servername
[12:43] <rempresent> thanks
[12:43] <elJo-> saif: ah yes, read the docs at /usr/share/doc/irda-utils
[12:43] <discord> anyone know why i cannot see deleted inodes using debugfs:lsdel in ubuntu
[12:43] <bitfoo> saif, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7388&highlight=irda
[12:43] <bitfoo> :|
[12:43] <discord> i was trying to recover something
[12:43] <bitfoo> use the god damn search tool :|
[12:44] <elJo-> bitfoo: even better :)
[12:44] <saif> elJo: ah! :) ok
[12:44] <saif> bitfoo: thanx!
[12:44] <bitfoo> maybe it helps you :/
[12:44] <bitfoo> i have no need for irda so i dont use it :|
[12:44] <rempresent> how can i add users and passwords to my ftp server
[12:44] <saif> bitfoo: i hope it will,
[12:44] <rempresent> what do i edit in the config file
[12:45] <saif> bitfoo, elJo: anyways, i think i accompished enough for today on the linux system, will go mess with the ir and go sleep! goodnight, and thanx!
[12:45] <bitfoo> good luck :)
[12:45] <elJo-> saif: no problem :)
[12:46] <bitfoo> maybe i will go grocery shopping while i wait :/
[12:46] <elJo-> bitfoo: don't tell, scream. gcc won't respect you enough otherwise ;)
[12:47] <encKe`> wow....getting java going is being tougher than i thought
[12:47] <bitfoo> i just wonder like, why on earth i have to include scsi modules if i dont use scsi :|
[12:47] <elJo-> encKe`: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java <- did you read that?
[12:48] <encKe`> ill check it out
[12:48] <encKe`> thx
[12:48] <Agamotto> bitfoo:  cd/dvd drives are all considered scsi
[12:48] <website> hi to all
[12:48] <bitfoo> ohh
[12:48] <website> i've finished to isntall ubuntu now
[12:48] <bitfoo> well waht about bluetooth!
[12:48] <Agamotto> I have no idea why they are treated that way though
[12:48] <bitfoo> i have no need, yet LD [M]   net/bluetooth/rfcomm/rfcomm.o
[12:48] <bitfoo> :|
[12:48] <Agamotto> Bluetooth is hit and miss on both linux and windows
[12:49] <website> i saw that there is not any root user, how can i made system modification without that user?
[12:49] <bitfoo> sudo <command>
[12:49] <Agamotto> Works great between my Prius, the moblie, and my Clie
[12:49] <elJo-> bitfoo: maybe you should have disabled that option in make *config? :)
[12:49] <bitfoo> maybe :|
[12:49] <lOSTmONK> question
[12:49] <bitfoo> but ive gone too far to go back :|
[12:49] <lOSTmONK> i run mepis right now
[12:49] <IRCsloth_> what's a good telnet terminal client in linux? I've been using plain old 'telnet' but it doesn't show asci graphics (BBS) as nice as the windows telnet client.
[12:49] <Agamotto> You might need sudo -s sometimes
[12:49] <website> bitfoo, but why is there not any root user?
[12:49] <lOSTmONK> if i install ubuntu will i need the same modules to get my sound and stuff going?
[12:49] <elJo-> bitfoo: remember, patience is a virtue ;)
[12:49] <Agamotto> Plain telnet?
[12:50] <encKe`> brb
[12:50] <IRCsloth_> just typing "telnet' in a shell
[12:50] <elJo-> website: there is.
[12:50] <Agamotto> SSH... no telnet, telnet bad, telnet very bad....
[12:50] <lOSTmONK> rofl
[12:50] <Tyche> Excuse me. . . I'm rather new to Linux and especially to Ubuntu.  In trying to install the latest version (I believe it's 4.10) I can't complete the installation due to screen resolution.
[12:50] <website> alJo: but i didn't set any password for root user
[12:50] <bitfoo> just use sudo
[12:50] <bitfoo> or if you want a root console sudo -s
[12:50] <IRCsloth_> yes, I know all about the security aspects of telnet (or lack there of) but these telnet accessed BBS's don't support ssh
[12:50] <bitfoo> :|
[12:50] <elJo-> website: you don't need to :)
[12:51] <Agamotto> sudo replaces the root password system
[12:51] <lOSTmONK> ?
[12:51] <Pit> stairs?
[12:51] <lOSTmONK> no-one?
[12:51] <bitfoo> ?
[12:51] <website> bitfoo, but why? ---> i come from 4 years of debian
[12:51] <Agamotto> Que?
[12:51] <Agamotto> mrowr?
[12:51] <bitfoo> but why not :|
[12:51] <bitfoo> you can add it i think
[12:52] <elJo-> website: me too. anyway, it's just that way by design and believe me you'll get accustomed to it soon :)
[12:52] <Agamotto> Hmmm, time for some PB&J
[12:52] <elJo-> website: you can sudo -s, give a passwd to root and use su normally
[12:52] <bitfoo> website, read here http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[12:52] <bitfoo> :|
[12:52] <website> thanks
[12:52] <elJo-> website: but that's not the ubuntu way ;)
[12:53] <website> elJo-, yes i know i just wanna know why ubuntu uses this approach
[12:54] <elJo-> website: the page bitfoo cited has the reasons for it
[12:54] <website> yes, i'm already on it, thanks
[12:54] <bitfoo> i will stick with ubuntu for a while :|
[12:56] <elJo-> bitfoo: after getting rid of the color theme i love it :)
[12:56] <bitfoo> omg yah :|
[12:56] <bitfoo> poop brown :|
[12:56] <bitfoo> www.duke.edu/~peg2/desktop.png
[12:56] <elJo-> bitfoo: exactly :)
[12:56] <bitfoo> is mine ;|
[12:57] <elJo-> bitfoo: nice :)
[12:57] <lOSTmONK> once again, lemme try this
[12:57] <bitfoo> ?
[12:57] <xinel> anybody know how to fix a problem with the 'Computer' -> 'desktop preferences' mine will not open
[12:57] <lOSTmONK> will i need to add the same modules in ubuntu that i did in mepis for my souncard?
[12:57] <bitfoo> like what, like alsa?
[12:58] <elJo-> bitfoo: i tried fc3 a while back... nice, but de facto unusable. i mean, yum, what is this? where's my apt, and where's my /etc/netwok/interfaces? ;)
[12:58] <HrdwrBoB> elJo-: that's merely distro differences, there's better reasons not to like FC3 but all of them are offtopic
[12:59] <bitfoo> lOSTmONK, i dont know about your specific problem, but i would suggest trying the livecd, and if your sound works probably not :|
[12:59] <lOSTmONK> no, in mepis i had to add the snd-intel8x0 module in my /etc/modules to get my sound going
[12:59] <bitfoo> oh no
[12:59] <bitfoo> i have that module
[12:59] <bitfoo> it worked out of hte box
[12:59] <bitfoo> :|
[12:59] <lOSTmONK> nice
[12:59] <lOSTmONK> :)
[12:59] <bitfoo> :)
[12:59] <bitfoo> snd_intel8x0m          18756  2
[12:59] <bitfoo> snd_intel8x0           33280  4
[12:59] <bitfoo> :)
[12:59] <rempresent> does any know of a channel that specializes in ftp problems
[12:59] <lOSTmONK> i just wanna get away from mepis after all the political crap they have going on there
[12:59] <elJo-> HrdwrBoB: of course.
[01:00] <bitfoo> i dont know about politics, despite being a political science major :
[01:00] <bitfoo> :|
[01:00] <elJo-> bitfoo: wise
[01:00] <bitfoo> let alone linux politics (does such a thing exist??)
[01:01] <lOSTmONK> yes
[01:01] <lOSTmONK> there is a article on osnews about whats going on in mepis
[01:01] <elJo-> bitfoo: witness KDE and GNOME.
[01:01] <HrdwrBoB> bitfoo: haha .. hugely
[01:02] <warty> so, how can i access my linux partition from windowsxp then?
[01:02] <bitfoo> you can't i think
[01:02] <bitfoo> unless you make it FAT filesystem :O
[01:02] <elJo-> warty: if it isn't ext2/3 you're out of luck
[01:02] <Hoggoth> warty:  I believe the only way would be through Samba, and the linux partition would have to be on a second system running
[01:03] <warty> windows is sucks
[01:03] <Pit> stairs?
[01:03] <Martok> Haha
[01:03] <elJo-> warty: http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/explore2fs.htm
[01:03] <warty> eljo: i ve tried that
[01:03] <bitfoo> i want to know if linux will support cell cpu architecture :|
[01:03] <warty> dosent show anything
[01:03] <Hoggoth> There is a distro called LinonWin, that installs linux as a file under windows
[01:03] <warty> i go "refresh partitions" nd it does nothing
[01:04] <warty> btw, im on a live cd, which is why my name's not liquid boy :P
[01:04] <bitfoo> i think you can do /nick liquidboy :|
[01:04] <liquidboy> excelent
[01:05] <bitfoo> but i dunno too much about that, i formatted all my windows drives after burning the data to dvd :|
[01:05] <bitfoo> they are now ext3 :/
[01:05] <website> how to write a cd rom in gnome?
[01:06] <bitfoo> http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#cddvdburning
[01:06] <bitfoo> :|
[01:06] <FAST> can someone tell me how to set the default screen resolution? every time i log into ubuntu, it's running in 1280x1024, and i need it in 1024x768
[01:06] <website> bitfoo, thanks
[01:06] <FLeiXiuS> FAST: Warty / Hoary?
[01:06] <bitfoo> lots of other good stuff on there too
[01:06] <FAST> warty
[01:07] <FLeiXiuS> FAST: Edit your /etc/X11/XFConfig-4 file.  Look for a sub heading called Screen, and you should see a list of your monitors resolutions it can support, there is where you would want to change the default.
[01:08] <Agamotto> You have to love PB&J on asiago cheese bread
[01:08] <Agamotto> yum
[01:09] <elJo-> FAST: Computer -> System -> Change Resolution
[01:09] <FAST> elJo: i dont want to have to do that every time i log in
[01:09] <FAST> FleiXius: is there an X configuration tool that I can use? I see that it picked up my monitor as generic...
[01:10] <Tyche> Can anyone tell me how to set the resolution to SVGA during installation?  I'll fight with NVidia afterward
[01:10] <crimsun> FAST: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (Warty)
[01:10] <rempresent> again, does anyone know about proftpd
[01:10] <rempresent> ?
[01:10] <FLeiXiuS> FAST: `XFree86 -configure` I believe
[01:10] <crimsun> rempresent: what about proftpd?
[01:10] <FLeiXiuS> FAST: crimsun's way works just as well.
[01:11] <bitfoo> http://www.start-linux.com/articles/article_176.php < rempresent
[01:12] <christor> Is someone knows where i can find a channel irc to help me to resolve a problem of mplayer, xine... to listen streaming radio?
[01:13] <crimsun> christor: what sort of problem are you having with either? (try checking in each application's channel)
[01:15] <Tyche> Can anyone tell me how to set the resolution to SVGA during installation? I'll fight with NVidia later
[01:15] <Parallax> does anyone installed kismet without problems???
[01:17] <Martok> I found it very simple to install and configure my Nvida card under Ubuntu.
[01:17] <Sav> is there any package that gives me a CPU temp and FAN RPM in my panel?
[01:18] <Martok> I thought I'd have to go through hell, thank god for Nvidia!
[01:18] <nevyn> screw nvidia
[01:18] <lOSTmONK> rofl
[01:19] <Parallax> kismet anyone???
[01:19] <Tyche> Yes, but first I have to get Ubuntu installed.
[01:20] <christor> sorry i have deconnected
[01:21] <christor> I m trying to listen streaming mms but I need a soft complia,nt with a proxy
[01:21] <Tyche> The secondary installation screen is nothing but hash.  I can tell it's booting by the shape of what scrolls up the screen, but it is unreadable.
[01:21] <Agamotto> Ok, now I have seen everything.. a package that helps you put your menses on a calendar so you can track them
[01:21] <christor> ANd i didn t found it
[01:21] <FAST> anyone notice that when you start firefox, it doesn't automatically go to the home page you set for it?     i fixed it by adding the home url in the launcher, but that shouldn't be necessary, right
[01:21] <christor> please someone can help me?
[01:21] <rempresent> I set up my FTP server and am trying to get a username and password for a specific person to use
[01:21] <rempresent> does anyone know how i can pull that?
[01:22] <crimsun> please rephrase your question.
[01:23] <kakalto> how do I find out what my network IP address is?
[01:23] <crimsun> kakalto: ip a |grep eth0
[01:24] <kakalto> crimsun, thanks :D
[01:24] <christor> Please I used a laptop and when i make an networking restart i lost my interfacec eth0?
[01:26] <crimsun> christor: would you rephrase your question please?
[01:27] <Sav> is there any package that gives me a CPU temp and FAN RPM in my panel?
[01:28] <kent> chriss_, to me, it seems like the expected thing. Restarting the network will have the result that the network will be down for a while for a while, since it restarts..
[01:28] <kent> sorry, it was ment to christor. damn tabcompletion.
[01:28] <Agamotto> Sav:  Not that I know of, but gkrellm has such things in it
[01:29] <eyequeue> mencal
[01:30] <squeaky> hey all
[01:30] <Martok> Hey
[01:30] <squeaky> can someone help me with boot loaders?
[01:30] <christor> crimsun: what questionss? I have asked for 2 questions: first I would like to listen mms url(streaming file) but I need an application proxy compliant.
[01:30] <squeaky> are there any besides grub and lilo?
[01:31] <christor> 2nd question when i restart my networking on my laptop, I lose my eth0 config
[01:31] <crimsun> squeaky: yes, there are others, but those are the major ones.
[01:31] <eyequeue> squeaky:  i seem to remember "loadlin"
[01:31] <Martok> Not that I know of. You could try googling "alternative bootloaders" + "linux"
[01:31] <kent> chriss_, realplayer handles proxy and can play streams..
[01:31] <eyequeue> squeaky:  runs from within ms, iirc
[01:31] <crimsun> christor: 1) I recommend mplayer; you need the _full_ w32codecs pack from mplayerhq.hu
[01:31] <Martok> Yeah, I remember Zipslack came with loadlin
[01:32] <kent> christor, use realplayer. (i hate tabcompletion and beeing tired.)
[01:32] <crimsun> christor: 2) Is your eth0 wired? (presuming so)
[01:32] <christor> realplayer allow to listen mms url?
[01:32] <christor> eth0 pcmcia
[01:32] <christor> I have the same problem on debian
[01:33] <crimsun> christor: are there any messages in ,,dmesg'' providing warnings or errors?
[01:33] <squeaky> eyequeue: does it support xp and warty?
[01:34] <christor> eth0: lost link beat
[01:34] <christor> eth0: autonegotiation restarted
[01:34] <christor> and it s all
[01:35] <crimsun> christor: so the only time eth0 functions correctly is immediately following (re)boot?
[01:35] <shock> oh well... still very unhappy about evolution being a total mess
[01:36] <shock> but time for bed now
[01:36] <shock> n8 peoples
[01:38] <squeaky> hellO?
[01:38] <FAST> anyone know where  module distutils.core can be obtained?
[01:38] <christor> crimsun: yes when i reboot it s good
[01:38] <randabis> omg I really could use some help :(
[01:38] <FLeiXiuS> FAST: google.com first bud
[01:39] <randabis> I resized a reiserfs partition with qtparted...BAD IDEA
[01:39] <Agamotto> ouch
[01:39] <randabis> I can't access the partiton anymore and a --rebuild-tree hasn't fixed it
[01:40] <randabis> my data is still on the drive...I know that, but I can't access it
[01:40] <christor> for the streaming mms when I try to play an mms file with realplayer I have this message : the player does not have the capabilities to play this content
[01:40] <Agamotto> Try getting into it using a live cd like Knoppix?
[01:41] <Frazer> lo all
[01:41] <squeaky> can someone help me with boot loaders?
[01:41] <Agamotto> We will certainly try
[01:41] <randabis> Agamotto it's a problem with the superblock and bad blocks on the drive, knoppix isn't going to help here
[01:41] <gnum4n> how do I disable ipv6 DNS ? My DNS is slow
[01:41] <gnum4n> ?
[01:42] <squeaky> well, grub nor lilo works
[01:42] <squeaky> they both give errors
[01:42] <Agamotto> There are some reiser tools that act like fsck, but I haven't used them myself
[01:42] <squeaky> i have the latest bios
[01:42] <squeaky> i have no idea why it doesnt work
[01:42] <Agamotto> You install, then reboot, and nada?
[01:43] <squeaky> error
[01:43] <squeaky> when i use grub
[01:43] <squeaky> error 21
[01:43] <squeaky> lilo
[01:43] <squeaky> L 07 07 07 07...
[01:43] <squeaky> i've tried everything
[01:43] <squeaky> i just need a different one, are any available?
[01:44] <Agamotto> Sorry, beyond my skills
[01:44] <squeaky> lol
[01:44] <squeaky> there isn't ONE booter besides lilo and grub
[01:44] <squeaky> ?
[01:44] <HrdwrBoB> squeaky: if there was
[01:44] <HrdwrBoB> it would likely not work either
[01:44] <squeaky> grr
[01:44] <Agamotto> My guess is that LILO is choking on your MBR
[01:45] <kbrooks_> squeaky, are you on *nix or windows
[01:45] <squeaky> right now?
[01:45] <Agamotto> Since your crash is with the first l... search google for LILO diagnostic codes
[01:45] <squeaky> phlak linux
[01:45] <squeaky> i have, didn't help
[01:45] <lOSTmONK> is ububntu deb based  or wgat?
[01:45] <Agamotto> eek
[01:45] <lOSTmONK> phlak blows
[01:45] <gnum4n> how do I disable ipv6 DNS ? My DNS is slow
[01:45] <cafuego> lOSTmONK: yes
[01:45] <kbrooks_> lOSTmONK, deb based
[01:45] <smogger914> where can i find the file that stores passwords
[01:45] <lOSTmONK> get whoppix
[01:45] <Agamotto> debian, yes
[01:45] <robhu> Is there a way to list the modules I have compiled in to my current kernel like I can with lsmod for modules? I'm trying to put reiser4 in my kernel, I thought I'd done it but mount is telling me the device is busy (which it isn't) when I try to mount the reiser4 partition I have made with mkfs.reiser4
[01:46] <lOSTmONK> so synaptic works with ububntu?>
[01:46] <kbrooks_> lOSTmONK, and dont troll
[01:46] <smogger914> where can i find the file that stores passwords
[01:46] <squeaky> lol, its the only linux i have
[01:46] <cafuego> lOSTmONK: Why? Is it more marginal and less supported?
[01:46] <squeaky> since i can't get into ubuntu
[01:46] <smogger914> where can i find the file that stores passwords
[01:46] <robhu> smogger914: Do you mean /etc/passwd?
[01:46] <Agamotto> /etc/passwd
[01:46] <kbrooks_> lOSTmONK, you are purposely disrupting squeaky's help.
[01:46] <kbrooks_> please stop.
[01:47] <dud> #ubuntu - the only channel where repeating the same question actually works...
[01:47] <squeaky> lol
[01:47] <kbrooks_> smogger914, and dont repeat any questions you have.
[01:47] <smogger914> it says commands not found
[01:47] <smogger914> max@ubuntu:~ $ sudo /etc/passwd
[01:47] <smogger914> sudo: /etc/passwd: command not found
[01:47] <kbrooks_> smogger914, nano /etc/passwd
[01:47] <dud> the passwd file isnt ELF executable... its an ascii file
[01:48] <smogger914> where is it
[01:48] <kbrooks_> s/ELF//i
[01:48] <FAST> im not sure how to obtain the python  distutils package, i dont see anything like it listed in the package manager
[01:49] <squeaky> ...
[01:49] <Agamotto> FAST:  Search for it under google, using debian+disttutils
[01:49] <Agamotto> Might work
[01:49] <HrdwrBoB> python2.3-setuptools - Python Distutils Enhancements
[01:49] <HrdwrBoB> python2.4-setuptools - Python Distutils Enhancements
[01:50] <Agamotto> Danke
[01:51] <shock> damn.... how can I mount my hfsplus partition rw ?
[01:51] <hou5ton> in this laptop it has a ATI mobility radeon 9600 ... and i'm trying to get dual monitors, and I "think" i need to get nvidia-glx and nvidia-settings.  Does that sound right?
[01:51] <squeaky> there aren't ANY other boot loaders?
[01:51] <squeaky> this is insane
[01:51] <gnum4n> how do I disable ipv6 DNS? My DNS is slow
[01:51] <lOSTmONK> does ubuntu come with a stock IRC app?
[01:51] <smogger914> where does it say the password
[01:51] <Agamotto> hou5ton:  No, unless you have an nvidia card on the other computer
[01:51] <cowmix> Anyone: I am a moron.. I have the new Ubuntu live CD.. it boots to the desktop perfectly.. but I can not figure out how to start an install to the hard drive.. what am I missing?
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[01:52] <eyequeue> cowbud:  the "other" cd
[01:52] <Pluk> cowmix, the livecd isnt for installing
[01:52] <Xenguy> lOSTmONK: irssi (console); xchat (gui)
[01:52] <squeaky> cowmix: the livecd isn't for installing, it is to use it without installing
[01:52] <eyequeue> cowbud:  live cd doesn't have install optin, you want the isntall cd for that
[01:52] <cowmix> ARG..
[01:52] <squeaky> cowmix: you use the install cd if you want it on your cd
[01:52] <Pluk> --; :P
[01:52] <squeaky> heh
[01:52] <Agamotto> cowmix:  You need to fetch the 'install' cd from a server
[01:52] <Pluk> omg :D
[01:53] <cowmix> thanks guys!
[01:53] <Agamotto> Bittorrent should have it all over the place
[01:53] <hou5ton> Agamotto:   i just want to plug another monitor into the laptop, and I don't see a gui to set that up in Ubuntu
[01:53] <Pluk> that was a massreply :D
[01:53] <eyequeue> brb
[01:53] <smogger914> i am still confused at where i can actually see the passwords
[01:53] <cowmix> sorry.. I am in the Knoppix frame of mind.. again.. thanks!
[01:53] <Agamotto> hou5ton:  search the debian repositories for ati-utils, or some-such
[01:53] <hou5ton> Agamotto:   I want dual monitors, ... as one display, ... moving things back and forth
[01:54] <dud> passwords are shadowed smogger914 .... it would be a great security risk to have them in plaintext
[01:54] <smogger914> so can i look at them
[01:54] <dud> you cant
[01:54] <Xenguy> smogger914: furthermore passwords are encrypted
[01:54] <squeaky> how can i fix this?!
[01:54] <squeaky> sorry, but all weekend i've been trying to fix it, and i'm really gettin pissed
[01:55] <dud> kick you computer in the groin (TM)
[01:55] <Agamotto> squeaky:  I can sympathise.... walking away for a few hours can do wonders for your clarity of thought
[01:56] <Gul3> hello. i just installed ubuntu on one of my pc's. i have been following the tweaking ubuntu guide on ubuntforums.org but suddenly when i did a apt-get i got this message: "The package kimwitu is not ok and I don't know how to fix it!" never seen it before. what should i do?
[01:56] <squeaky> Agamotto: thanks, but I've gotten to the point where windows drives me crazy, and yet I can't go without it
[01:56] <Agamotto> I am slowly migrating to linux myself
[01:56] <squeaky> and apparently the bios system is crap, so I can't find one f***ing boot loader that ACTUALLY WORKS
[01:56] <Agamotto> I only run Win these days for games
[01:57] <squeaky> same with me mostly
[01:57] <dingo> I have installed ubuntu, installed smbfs and had samba working.. for about one connetion and now it doesn't work at all... does anyone know why ?
[01:57] <cowmix> Agamotto.. speaking of that.. does Cedega work will with Ubuntu?
[01:57] <Agamotto> sqeaky:  What are the particulars on your system?
[01:57] <Agamotto> cowmix:  I don't know... with what free time I have, it will be awhile before I play with Cedega
[01:58] <shock> damn.... how can I mount my hfsplus partition rw ?
[01:58] <squeaky> dell dimension 4550 with a dell dvd+rw, dell firewire package, and seagate 160gb internal
[01:58] <eyequeue> is there a "preferred" identd for ubuntu?
[01:58] <Gul3> somebody got any answear for me regarding kimwitu..?
[01:58] <eyequeue> or for that matter, will it even matter, since i'm behind a hardware firewall? :/
[01:59] <Agamotto> squeaky:  Ok, fairly recent, so the BIOS most likely isn't the problem... just as a joke, see if the anti-virus blocker is set in your BIOS
[01:59] <Xenguy> Gul3: have you googled the error message?
[01:59] <eyequeue> i just would like to eliminate the delay upon joining freenode, it's not a critical need
[01:59] <Gul3> Xenguy: yes. without any luck
[01:59] <Xenguy> Gul3: That looks like a weird one for sure
[02:00] <squeaky> the only antivirus I have is AVG which is windows-only
[02:00] <squeaky> so that couldn't be it
[02:00] <Xenguy> Gul3: sometimes waiting a bit and trying again can work ;-)
[02:00] <Gul3> Xenguy: hmm.. just like windows. lol
[02:01] <Xenguy> Gul3: heh - well it may not be your problem is what crossed my mind
[02:01] <squeaky> are there any bios programmers in the house?
[02:01] <dbt`veritas> rofl
[02:01] <dbt`veritas> no
[02:01] <squeaky> lol
[02:01] <Agamotto> No no no.... many recent BIOSs have a feature that keeps the MBR from being written to.... it will be labeled 'anti-virus block' or some-such
[02:01] <squeaky> hmm
[02:01] <squeaky> well, i doubt it
[02:02] <squeaky> grub/lilo is loading, but just producing an error
[02:02] <Agamotto> A possibility... I had that problem when installing Fedora on a friend's computer
[02:02] <dingo> does anyone know why samba is completely failing after having worked earlier in the day (and yes, the network is fine)
[02:02] <squeaky> how would i find/fix that?
[02:02] <Agamotto> Go into your BIOS and look for the heading
[02:03] <squeaky> i can't get in my bios
[02:03] <FAST> sweet, i just got nicotine running
[02:03] <squeaky> i dont think dell allows it
[02:03] <Agamotto> delltony, right?
[02:03] <squeaky> I've tried all the F# and Del and everything
[02:03] <Agamotto> Should be holding down F2 while it powers-on
[02:03] <squeaky> delltony? wazat?
[02:03] <eyequeue> eww, what is this? $ mozilla-firefox
[02:03] <eyequeue> INTERNAL ERROR on Browser End: No manager for initializing factory?
[02:03] <eyequeue> System error?:: Success
[02:03] <gnum4n> How do I change the DNS on my nick to IPv4 from IPv6? It takes forever to resolve host names
[02:03] <squeaky> that gives me setup
[02:03] <gnum4n> How do I change the DNS on my nic to IPv4 from IPv6? It takes forever to resolve host names
[02:03] <Agamotto> Yes, that should be your BIOS setup
[02:03] <squeaky> ahh
[02:03] <squeaky> but i looked around it
[02:04] <Agamotto> Ok, just a possibility
[02:04] <squeaky> what should i do in it?
[02:04] <Agamotto> Look for anything that says MBR block or anti-virus
[02:04] <squeaky> nothing did :-/
[02:05] <Agamotto> Another thought... see if IDE-0 or somesuch is in the device boot list, you know floppy, cd, ide, etc...
[02:05] <Abysmal> anyone got a umax s900 here??
 - well check the dhcpd config
[02:05] <squeaky> wait, i may have found something
[02:05] <squeaky> what is a boot flag?
[02:06] <Agamotto> Not sure... what else does it say as options?
[02:06] <gnum4n> how shock ?
[02:06] <squeaky> no, right now i'm in cfdisk
[02:06] <shock> with an editor
[02:06] <squeaky> anyone know what a boot flag is?
[02:07] <jba> hey guys, I installed the smb sharing extension for nautilus using dbus-1 and it worked a treat
[02:07] <jdub> squeaky: something you enter at the boot prompt
[02:07] <shock> squeaky - anny toggeling or setting value passed on to something at boottime
[02:07] <squeaky> would it affect a boot loader?
[02:08] <jba> hey jdub, any particular reason why the smb sharing extension is not in gnome by default?
[02:08] <squeaky> also, what is the difference between hda and hdb?
[02:08] <jba> it's tre-sweet
[02:08] <shock> gnum4n; /etc/dhcpd.conf <--- as root with some kind of editor
[02:08] <Agamotto> hda is your first hd, hdb is your second.... bootloader must always go on hda
[02:09] <squeaky> ah, i think i found my problem
[02:09] <gnum4n> it doesn't exist
[02:09] <shock> O_o
[02:09] <squeaky> one sec
[02:09] <gnum4n> im using hoary
[02:09] <shock> on your dhcp server!
[02:09] <shock> me too
[02:09] <shock> :)
[02:09] <jba> gnum4n, was the network available at install time ?
[02:09] <bitfoo> yo
[02:09] <gnum4n> yes
[02:10] <shock> hm
[02:10] <bitfoo> whats a good package to see wireless networks
[02:10] <bitfoo> for gnome :|
[02:10] <jba> I'v found if there is no network at install time, then the dchp doesen't get run on startup
[02:10] <bitfoo> like the wireless network finder in windows :|
[02:10] <gnum4n> my internet works just very slowly because ipv6 is enabled I have seen this in other distros as well with newer kernels
[02:10] <squeaky> hmm, i'm having trouble with chroot
[02:10] <Agamotto> Hmmm, Enterprise is rewriting ST history again... Tellarites aren't pentadactyl, nor do the have knees that bend backward, as most bipeds do... oh well
[02:10] <gnum4n> like it takes a long time to resolve host names
[02:10] <gnum4n> I have fixed it before on Fedora
[02:10] <squeaky> i put in 'chroot /mnt/ubuntu' and it says no such file or directory
[02:10] <gnum4n> I just don't remember how
[02:11] <squeaky> when i put mkdir /mnt/ubuntu
[02:11] <jdub> jba: depends on which one you mean
[02:11] <shock> how about just adding some own nameservers?
[02:11] <Agamotto> try chroot /hda(orb)/mnt/ubuntu
[02:11] <shock> oh well... I'm off to bed now....
[02:11] <shock> cu all laters
[02:11] <gnum4n> later shock
[02:11] <jba> judb, is there one in the works?
[02:11] <squeaky> hda(orb)?
[02:11] <jba> I googled and found one on one of the gnome mailing lists
[02:11] <squeaky> whats that?
[02:11] <jba> in .deb format
[02:12] <Agamotto> squeaky:  your hd
[02:12] <squeaky> oh, so hda1?
[02:12] <jdub> jba: i'm asking which one you're talking about
[02:12] <Agamotto> or a
[02:12] <jba> one sec i get linky
[02:12] <Agamotto> or b, I mean
[02:12] <LinuxJones> gnum4n, /etc/modprobe.d/aliases change the line to look like >> alias net-pf-10 off #ipv6
[02:12] <rellik> I'm reading the bash manpage, and playing around a little... how come this doesn't work: <start code> ((; echo "$DISPLAY"; )) <end code> ? it gives the error: : syntax error in expression (error token is ":0.0 <newline> ")
[02:13] <gnum4n> thank you very much linuxjones
[02:13] <jba> jdub, http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/dbus/2005-January/001870.html
[02:13] <LinuxJones> gnum4n, :)
[02:13] <jba> sorry it wan't gnome mailing list, was fdo
[02:14] <randabis> I've screwed up bad this time... :(
[02:14] <squeaky> hmm
[02:15] <squeaky> i tried chroot /mnt/ubuntu /dev/hda1
[02:15] <randabis> could really use some help
[02:15] <squeaky> it reported
[02:15] <Agamotto> coolies
[02:15] <jba> jdub, it was writtne for warty, but it worked on haory
[02:15] <squeaky> chroot: /dev/hda1: Permission denied
[02:15] <squeaky> ?
[02:15] <Agamotto> interesting
[02:15] <Agamotto> squeaky:  What distro are you running this second?
[02:15] <squeaky> phlak
[02:15] <Agamotto> Hmmm, I don't know if that uses sudo or not
[02:15] <squeaky> sudo?
[02:16] <randabis> I used QTparted to resize my reiserFS partition (bad idea)...the operation failed, and now my partition is no longer mountable
[02:16] <crimsun> squeaky: the second parameter to chroot needs a command, not a device or a partition
[02:16] <squeaky> crimsun: well, how should i do it?
[02:16] <randabis> the data is still on the drive (checked with gparted), but I can't mount it
[02:17] <crimsun> squeaky: normally it'd be ,,chroot /mnt/ubuntu /bin/bash'' or something similar
[02:17] <squeaky> /bin/bash?
[02:17] <Gul3> Xenguy: funny. your suggestion worked. :)
[02:17] <squeaky> i'll try
[02:17] <tritium> I've never seen qtparted work correctly.
[02:17] <squeaky> THANK YOU
[02:17] <randabis> I've ran reiserfsck --check --fix-fixable, --rebuild-sb, and --rebuild-tree on it...I still can't mount it
[02:17] <squeaky> it worked, i think
[02:17] <Agamotto> randabis:  ouch
[02:17] <randabis> the problem appears to be with the superblock
[02:17] <regeya> yipe
[02:18] <Agamotto> squeaky:  Go forth and help others, young padawan
[02:18] <randabis> when I run reiserfsck --check on it
[02:18] <squeaky> THANK YOU I LOVE YOU ALL!!!!!!
[02:18] <randabis> I get Bad root block 0. (--rebuild-tree did not complete)
[02:18] <Agamotto> ow
[02:18] <jba> jdub, he has since update packages for hory at: http://gentoo.ovibes.net/nautilus-share/ubuntu/
[02:18] <squeaky> lemme reboot, i'll ttyl
[02:18] <randabis> when I run --rebuild-tree again, i get a suggestion to try, but I don't know how to do it
[02:19] <regeya> OUCH
[02:19] <regeya> randabis: I don't suppose you keep complete backups, do you
[02:19] <Agamotto> Beyond me, unfortunately
[02:19] <tritium> so jdub, what happened to beagle?
[02:19] <regeya> what suggestion would that be
[02:19] <delltony> any reason why when i hit add wallpaper the image shows up but it never sets the desktop image?
[02:20] <randabis>  Zero the block at 64K offset from the start of the partition (a new super block you have just built) and try to move the start of the partition a few cylinders aside and check if debugreiserfs /dev/xxx detects a reiserfs super block.
[02:20] <Agamotto> I do mine ever two weeks
[02:20] <regeya> btw, someone suggest a backup strategy other than mondo
[02:20] <randabis> I don't know how to do that
[02:20] <tritium> I was using reiserfs on debian sid.  Nearly lost my thesis and all my work.
[02:20] <tritium> Warty live CD arrived in the mail a few days before and saved me :)
[02:20] <advocate> lol i always keep copys off cpu by email
[02:21] <Agamotto> tritium:  What caused your crash?  any ideas?
[02:21] <randabis> so anyone have idea how to do that? the zero the block at 64k offset and move the partition
[02:21] <regeya> tritium: I ran into the same situation; had a Mandrake install, had a big project due, got prompted to run reiserfsck, it told me to run --rebuild-tree and when I did I got a segfault and a trashed tree
[02:21] <tritium> Agamotto, it was not really reiserfs' fault.  It was a hardware failure (laptop drive).
[02:21] <regeya> this was a few years ago, though
[02:22] <Cloudchaser> Tritum how did ubuntu live cd help you?
[02:22] <tritium> regeya, ouch
[02:22] <mauithewitch> hey guys, a linux n00b here, but i've tried everything to get the warty live cd to work but its not
[02:22] <tritium> Cloudchaser, I couldn't boot from hard disk, but I could mount it from LiveCD.
[02:22] <advocate> bummer
[02:22] <Cloudchaser> mauithewitch, i had trouble with ubuntu live cd
[02:22] <randabis> if I could just get access to the data, I could take what I want off if it and then format it
[02:22] <Cloudchaser> no apps would open
[02:22] <tritium> Then, I could get data off of it for a few minutes at a time before it would flake out.
[02:22] <Agamotto> mauithewitch:  Tried SmartBootManager?
[02:22] <mauithewitch> freezes up with a black screen after sucessfully loading most of it
[02:22] <Agamotto> Ahh, it hates something on your system then
[02:23] <mauithewitch> agamotto: no
[02:23] <regeya> for some reason reiserfsck would wipe clean the tree, THEN build a tree in memory.  So if anything happened in the intervening time, you were screwed.
[02:23] <Quest-Master> Hi, my Windows box is able to explore my Ubuntu box with Samba, but my Ubuntu can't get into the Windows box
[02:23] <advocate> ubuntu still wont install on my laptop. and the way it crashed was so confusing I dint even bother fileing a bug
[02:23] <Quest-Master> It says I don't have sufficient permissions to view it
[02:23] <mauithewitch> its probably having issues with my screen res... garrr
[02:23] <giard> question...
[02:23] <giard> why do we need esd?
[02:23] <giard> I'm no expert
[02:23] <Quest-Master> giard: To play more than one sound
[02:23] <giard> but if you set the out/in in the multimedia selector to alsa...
[02:23] <giard> ahhhh
[02:23] <crimsun> giard: it's the most straightforward method of software mixing across a greater majority of sound cards
[02:23] <regeya> giard: beats me; disable it.
[02:24] <randabis> guess I just lost almost 60 gigabytes of data :(
[02:24] <regeya> giard, you can disable the sound server, and you can change the default gstreamer backend.  need help doing either one?
[02:24] <giard> crimsun: esd doesn't seem to be so good at recording, though
[02:24] <tritium> Here's another ubuntu success story for me: Mom has dual-boot WinXP & ubuntu.  She locked herself out of WinXP.  I reset her passwd with chntpw.
[02:24] <tritium> Small victory, but I loved ubuntu for it.
[02:24] <mauithewitch> but even with the blank screen it gives me a starting up type of sound from my speakers...
[02:24] <giard> regeya: thanks, I think I've figured it out
[02:24] <crimsun> giard: right, the latency is less than optimal
[02:24] <mauithewitch> awesome
[02:24] <regeya> R00L
[02:24] <delltony> anyone know how to set a desktop backgroun in gnome? for some reason i can't get it to set :(
[02:25] <giard> crimsun: it doesn't even *work* on this setup, let alone have latency
[02:25] <giard> crimsun: but if I go straight alsa, no problems
[02:25] <detox> hi
[02:25] <giard> crimsun: have you heard of a possible esound replacement?
[02:25] <regeya> giard: I agree, though; my preference would be to have esd off by default
[02:25] <bitfoo> man wtf :|
[02:25] <crimsun> giard: polypaudio already deprecates esound
[02:25] <bitfoo> i recompiled my kernel and now my wireless doesnt work :|
[02:26] <bitfoo> i get tons of dmesg :|
[02:26] <mjg59> bitfoo: Not all the wireless drivers included with Ubuntu are in the standard kernel source
[02:26] <bitfoo> i used ubuntu kernel source :|
[02:26] <tritium> bitfoo, did you use make-kpkg?
[02:26] <bitfoo> yes
[02:26] <bitfoo> make-kpkg clean
[02:26] <giard> crimsun: does ubuntu use polypaudio now?
[02:26] <crimsun> giard: hoary does not by default.
[02:26] <detox> anybody knows how can i configure mi pppoe conection?? please??
[02:27] <cyklus> network question... i have a laptop that has both ethernet and wireless.. 80% of the time i use wireless. When i start up the system waits forever when i dont have ethernet plugged in. Is there a way to make it not do this?
[02:27] <crimsun> giard: it is quite straightforward to convert to polypaudio, however.
[02:27] <LinuxJones> Dethread, pppoeconf ?
[02:27] <giard> crimsun: good, I'd like to try it
[02:27] <detox> yeah, but nothing happens
[02:27] <detox> :S
[02:27] <bitfoo> tritium, it doesnt even detect the card now ;|
[02:28] <tritium> bitfoo, did you make modules too?
[02:28] <giard> crimsun: do I have to do anything besides install the polypaudio packages?
[02:29] <crimsun> giard: nope.
[02:29] <rempresen1> how do i install a .dev file
[02:29] <bitfoo> i just make oldconfig
[02:29] <bitfoo> to use the one that was working :|
[02:29] <bitfoo> but i see firmware is in hotplug for it though
[02:29] <crimsun> giard: I tweaked /etc/polypaudio/default.pa to use alsa, but that's it.
[02:29] <cyklus> any suggestions on the network issue?
[02:30] <giard> crimsun: will polypaudio come up in the multimedia selector or will it still say esd?
[02:30] <cyklus> is there a way to select which network device you wanna use on bootup?
[02:30] <rempresen1> .dev anyone
[02:30] <rempresen1> ?
[02:30] <crimsun> giard: by default, those polypaudio packages will accept output/input to/from esound
[02:30] <dingo> is anyone here very familiar with Nautilus ?
[02:30] <crimsun> giard: you can leave gstreamer-properties set to esd*
[02:30] <Quest-Master> dingo: Yeah
[02:31] <dingo> okay, why is that Nautilus can't mount windows shares & ftp stuff anymore (and could some hours earlier today??)
[02:32] <giard> time to go try it out
[02:32] <delltony> can someone please help me with gnome?
[02:32] <bitfoo> tritium, it is configured as a module "/lib/modules/2.6.10.acpihack/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ipw2200/ipw2200.ko"
[02:33] <usual> delltony, whats wrong
[02:33] <delltony> i can't change the desktop wallpapers at all
[02:33] <delltony> i hit no  wallpaper nada, i hit a different one nada
[02:33] <tritium> delltony, is that a fresh Warty install?  Have you updated & upgraded?
[02:34] <bitfoo> bleh, i will reboot and see if that fixes it :|
[02:34] <delltony> its a fresh warty install i believe
[02:34] <tritium> bitfoo, what kind of errors?
[02:34] <bitfoo> umm
[02:34] <bitfoo> #flood
[02:34] <weblin> I've just installed a kernel (2.6.10) from Sources but when I boot it I get messages about 'too many mounted filesystems on tmpfs' or something like that. did I leave something important out of the config?
[02:35] <delltony> anything i should try?
[02:36] <tritium> delltony, "sudo apt-get update" and then "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[02:36] <tritium> I assume you have internet access?
[02:36] <delltony> i just got done dooing that
[02:36] <delltony> and it didn't change anything
[02:36] <Soap_On_A_Roap> I've downloaded the MPlayer.tar.bz2 file, i want to install, what dop  id o next?
[02:36] <usual> delltony, i've had that problem in gnome also
[02:36] <usual> delltony, usually I have to log out and log back in
[02:36] <delltony> ok so if you logout and back in the thing changes?
[02:36] <delltony> thats odd
[02:37] <usual> well
[02:37] <usual> you normally don't need to
[02:37] <usual> but i have had to
[02:37] <dingo> Soap_On_A_Roap, try searching for ubuntu and mplayer (one of those links give a detailed step by step build order for building your own mplayer)
[02:37] <HrdwrBoB> erm
[02:37] <delltony> thats strange
[02:37] <HrdwrBoB> mplayer is in multiverse
[02:37] <usual> delltony, yeah it is, well wanna hear something stranger? I have had X crash 3 times today
[02:38] <tritium> delltony, if gnome packages were upgraded, it might be a good idea
[02:38] <delltony> no i know all about strange :)
[02:38] <usual> delltony, double clicking in nautilus and using rhythmbox
[02:38] <crimsun> Soap_On_A_Roap: /wiki/RestrictedFormats also has pointers
[02:38] <delltony> i caught hell trying to get my wireless to work
[02:38] <delltony> haha
[02:38] <delltony> brb
[02:39] <weblin> anybody know what the 'too many mounted filesystems' boot error means, please?
[02:39] <Quest-Master> HrdwrBoB: mplayer in Universe is extremely buggy and hardly works
[02:39] <usual> I wish gstreamer would catch up on some shit
[02:39] <usual> like dvd playback
[02:40] <HrdwrBoB> Quest-Master: ah well that sucks then
[02:40] <usual> wb
[02:40] <HrdwrBoB> usual: it has in hoary
[02:40] <daniels> Quest-Master: i haven't had any problems with it
[02:40] <Quest-Master> Hrdwrbob: Yeah, compiling it is a much better idea
[02:40] <usual> HrdwrBoB, yeah but it sucks
[02:40] <delltony> ok what is this crap i logout and back in and it says i have detected a panel already running so i will exit
[02:40] <Quest-Master> daniels: It crashes on almost everyone I speak it to :\
[02:40] <delltony> that sucks :(
[02:41] <Br34ch> Nub question again . . . intro-linux.html.tar.gz <-- What command would extract this in term?.. :x
[02:41] <mebaran151> how do I add an interface to be loaded
[02:41] <mebaran151> like I want eth0
[02:41] <mebaran151> but it only loads eth1
[02:41] <mebaran151> I would like to use my nforce card
[02:41] <eyequeue> auto eth0
[02:42] <mebaran151> the command is not found it says
[02:42] <LinuxJones> Br34ch, tar xfzv file.tar.gz
[02:42] <Br34ch> thanks
[02:42] <daniels> Quest-Master: dunno about warty, but it's certainly not the case in hoary
[02:42] <delltony> what is with this shhe at :(
[02:42] <mebaran151> delltony: when that happens
[02:42] <mebaran151> open a terminal
[02:42] <mebaran151> by right clicking
[02:42] <delltony> ok i'm in terminal now
[02:42] <mebaran151> on the desktop
[02:42] <mebaran151> and just skill gnome-panel
[02:43] <delltony> thts how i got here
[02:43] <mebaran151> then type gnome-panel
[02:43] <delltony> ok
[02:43] <usual> daniels, have you heard of X crashing in hoary much?
[02:43] <eyequeue> mebaran151:  sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces
[02:43] <delltony> so skill gnome-panel?
[02:43] <tritium> kill
[02:43] <tritium> but you have to give the pid
[02:43] <daniels> usual: no
[02:43] <delltony> ok yeah i killed hte wrong one
[02:43] <eyequeue> or killall
[02:43] <delltony> i killed gdm thinking that was it
[02:43] <delltony> let me try
[02:43] <daniels> i've heard of the configuration being weird, but am preparing an upload to fix almost all of that now
[02:44] <usual> daniels, ok, must just be me. In certain thing during an X session in gnome X will just crash
[02:44] <mebaran151> it makes no mention of eth0
[02:44] <delltony> thats more better
[02:44] <delltony> thanks for the tip
[02:44] <mebaran151> I need it to load the forcedeth module as well
[02:44] <usual> daniels, double clicking in nautilus....using rhythmbox
[02:45] <daniels> usual: um, what sort of card are you using?
[02:45] <eyequeue> mebaran151:  man 5 interfaces for details on that file
[02:45] <Quest-Master> daniels: Yeah, I'm in Warty
[02:45] <usual> daniels, gforce4
[02:46] <Quest-Master> daniels: Would you know anything about why wxGtk in Warty AND Hoary uses GTK1 instead of GTK2?
[02:46] <mebaran151> where do I pull the mapping script from
[02:46] <mebaran151> didnt the installation have an automagical way to set them both up
[02:46] <mebaran151> I remember it asking me about it
[02:46] <tritium> daniels, you must be swamped in bugs right about now.
[02:46] <syn-ack> hi.
[02:46] <mebaran151> my evolution is still reporting a pointer mismatch
[02:46] <usual> daniels, with the nvidia drivers
[02:46] <mebaran151> which is beginning to bug me
[02:47] <xalphas> can anybody help me about gdesklets?
[02:48] <daniels> usual: in that case, there will be a bug somewhere in the nvidia drivers; you'll have to harass them, I'm afraid
[02:48] <lOSTmONK> soab
[02:48] <daniels> (binary drivers means I can't go hunting for the problema nd fix it)
[02:48] <daniels> Quest-Master: not really, sorry
[02:48] <delltony> thanks again guys
[02:48] <usual> daniels, ok, I just never had this issue before...
[02:48] <usual> daniels, but I will take your word for it :0
[02:48] <usual> :)
[02:49] <daniels> tritium: yes, especially as I didn't do any real work stuff this weekend, and just worked on the modular X tree and hung out with people instead
[02:49] <crimsun> Quest-Master: which wxgtk package?
[02:49] <delltony> very strange now the desktop images change haha must of been due to the upgrade
[02:49] <tritium> daniels, well, you deserve a weekend, for sure
[02:50] <Quest-Master> crimsun: Any of them
[02:50] <tritium> I just happened to notice that #5940 is still new.
[02:50] <Quest-Master> crimsun: I'll link you to the topic in the forums if you'd like
[02:50] <crimsun> Quest-Master: note that libwxgtk2.4 in both warty/uni and hoary/uni use gtk 1.2, whereas libwxgtk2.5.3 in hoary/uni uses gtk2
[02:50] <crimsun> Quest-Master: sure, url appreciated
[02:50] <lOSTmONK> how do i change the splash screen?
[02:50] <daniels> tritium: just triaging my bugs now
[02:50] <tritium> I see.
[02:51] <daniels> tritium: could you please attach the output of sudo ddcprobe?
[02:51] <ALTF4osu> i need some pretty specific newb help, 1) how to get to the ntfs file system when in ubuntu, and 2) how to set up ndiswrapper with the driver i need for wireless
[02:51] <tritium> daniels, okay, I'll have to do that tomorrow when I head back into the lab.
[02:51] <xalphas> still using gdesklets 0.26 with no daemon. only can double click some displays. how to install from tarball or is there any depo url for newer versions of gdesklets?
[02:52] <daniels> tritium: ok, thanks a lot.  i suspect it's a duplicate of 5754
[02:52] <bzbb> I had rhythmbox working, then I tested KDE
[02:53] <bzbb> now, when I play in rythmbox, I get Could not pause playback as an error
[02:53] <tritium> daniels, what am I thinking?  I'll do it remotely right now...
[02:53] <giard> sigh, no luck on polypaudio working with recording better than esound
[02:54] <lOSTmONK> anyone?
[02:54] <lOSTmONK> changing the botsplash?
[02:54] <crimsun> giard: then it's best with your configuration to use esdsink and alsasrc
[02:54] <lOSTmONK> boot*
[02:54] <crimsun> giard: I have my home pc configured thusly, and it works adequately for most situations
[02:55] <daniels> tritium: heh.  make sure the scren is on :)
[02:55] <giard>  crimsun: that doesn't seem to work
[02:55] <tritium> daniels, it is ;)
[02:55] <crimsun> giard: did you configure /etc/polypaudio/default.pa to use alsa?
[02:55] <giard> crimsun: if I do that way it says "failed to construct pipeline"
[02:55] <giard> crimsun: yes
[02:55] <Agamotto> Time to rejoin reality
[02:56] <tritium> daniels, sorry if it's a duplicate, btw
[02:56] <crimsun> giard: is polypaudio running after gnome starts?
[02:56] <LinuxJones> night all
[02:56] <giard> I believe it's set to do on demand and not static
[02:57] <giard> it's definitely running because the terminal bell is different
[02:57] <crimsun> hmm, will need to debug further, because the config I described works on my home pc
[02:57] <lOSTmONK> how do i add a new user?
[02:58] <Pariente> can some help me with a problem
[02:58] <UZ1> i need help mounting for ntfs, and not as root
[02:58] <steve_> hi, how is everyone
[02:58] <giard> crimsun: should I take out the input line in polypaudio?
[02:58] <Pariente>  I'm using Gnome 2.8, I installed something that doesn't let me put knew launcher to the menus it says some thing about permitions denied coan some tell
[02:59] <UZ1> i need help for ntfs mounting as user, i want to be able to use it as user and not as root
[02:59] <steve_> for some reason, I cannot get to root. It is like the passowrd changed or something
[02:59] <crimsun> giard: worth trying.
[02:59] <steve_> does anyone have any ideas
[02:59] <tritium> steve_, you setup a root password?
[02:59] <steve_> not trying to be funny, I beleive so. My partner hooked it up for me
[02:59] <daniels> tritium: no worries; i need to retitle all the bugs in my list so they're more obvious to me, let alone to everyone else
[03:00] <Pariente> UZI edith /etc/fstad/ with something like this: /dev/hda1       /media/WinXP ntfs noauto,users,exec,ro,umask=000 0 0
[03:00] <squeaky> hey again
[03:00] <steve_> any ideas to check though
[03:00] <squeaky> how do i change the drive i'm on through the terminal?
[03:00] <sime> should scanners work with ubuntu live cd ?
[03:00] <giard> crimsun: that looks like that might have done it
[03:00] <crimsun> giard: great.
[03:00] <giard> crimsun: that would be a good configuration for most people, I'd think...
[03:00] <steve_> I can get to my super, but when it calls for the root password, it is not happening
[03:01] <tritium> daniels, well, just trying to do my part be testing the LiveCDs.  ddcprobe is attached for you.  Thanks!
[03:01] <giard> crimsun: I don't see a reason to have polypaudio manage recording, as the latency would make someone use alsa anyway
[03:01] <daniels> tritium: thanks a lot :)
[03:01] <steve_> tritium, any ideas
[03:01] <lOSTmONK> wow, this is just great
[03:01] <Pariente> UZ1 did you get it?
[03:01] <UZ1> working on it
[03:02] <UZ1> was about ot type it
[03:02] <Pariente> ok
[03:02] <tritium> steve_, I'd recommend "sudo -s -H" over using the root account
[03:02] <crimsun> daniels: may I bug you for 30 secs regarding X.Org in Hoary, usb 1.1, and the evdev protocol for driver mouse?
[03:02] <UZ1> w00t
[03:02] <steve_> okay
[03:02] <UZ1> works
[03:02] <UZ1> thank you
[03:02] <Pariente> ok
[03:02] <UZ1> okay, can you explain the noauto,users,exec,ro,umask=000 0 0
[03:02] <steve_> but what about when certain files ask for the root password. like the partition tool
[03:02] <tritium> steve_, they're asking for your password
[03:03] <Pariente> in a terminal write --man fstad-- you'll find the explanation there
[03:03] <UZ1> hehe
[03:03] <steve_> okay, but I do not remember setting up a root password. I tried leaving it blank, same result
[03:03] <UZ1> i am lazy
[03:03] <UZ1> sorry
[03:03] <Pariente> dont worry
[03:04] <Pariente> well all are somo time
[03:04] <Quest-Master> crimsun: It is possible for wxgtk2.4 to use GTK2.. why was it configured to use GTK1?
[03:04] <tritium> steve_, the root account is disabled by default
[03:05] <lOSTmONK> omg, there is no repos ubuntu uses
[03:05] <lOSTmONK> for the love of god
[03:05] <raydogg``> I hate how gnome opens a new window every time you click a folder
[03:05] <daniels> tritium: oh, good god.
[03:05] <steve_> okay, can you tell me to hook this up.
[03:05] <tritium> daniels, what?
[03:05] <Pariente> -ro- mean read only, that's one complicated
[03:05] <tritium> daniels, did I do something stupid?
[03:05] <daniels> tritium: you have an interesting bug that there's no real solution for
[03:05] <daniels> tritium: nope, Apple did
[03:05] <tritium> Oh?
[03:05] <lOSTmONK> what zip app does ubuntu use?
[03:05] <daniels> tritium: i can fix it for your specific case, but I've seen a couple of these bugs now, and it seems the only way to fix it correctly is to just keep blacklisting specific cases
[03:06] <daniels> ah well :)
[03:06] <julio> zip?
[03:06] <daniels> crimsun: sure
[03:06] <Pariente> if you have a nother HD and wanna write on it put -rw- but dont do it with a partition where ugly win is
[03:06] <tritium> daniels, what's the problem?
[03:06] <Pariente> -rw- means -r-ead and -w-rite
[03:06] <paulsth> Hi everybody. I cant seem to get my laptop wlan to connect to my desktop. i've configured it with iwconfig, but it can't connect. Any ideas, please?
[03:07] <giard> paulsth: did you set up the WEP?
[03:07] <giard> paulsth: use the network config
[03:07] <squeaky> anyone know how to change the drive in the linux terminal?
[03:07] <paulsth> giard, wep? i've set essid, mode, key...
[03:07] <julio> change the drive?
[03:07] <squeaky> yea
[03:07] <giard> paulsth: that should do it, can you ping the wireless router?
[03:07] <julio> use "cd" to go to another directory.
[03:08] <julio> if that's what you mean
[03:08] <daniels> tritium: so the standard way to do DDC, right, is to set up an I2C bus on the card and probe it through the card; this varies per-card, and is driver-specific
[03:08] <julio> the command: cd
[03:08] <squeaky> yea
[03:08] <crimsun> daniels: thanks. I have an odd local config where a usb 1.1 hub times out, which causes havoc with my mouse in that /dev/input/event[34]  are continually interchanged between X sessions, so I have to reconfigure /etc/X11/xorg.conf and restart gdm every couple hours. Should I be yelling at the kernel folks, or should I just give up and go back to using /dev/input/mice with protocol "auto"?
[03:08] <steve_> Tritium, are you able to help me out
[03:08] <Pariente> UZ1 got it?
[03:08] <paulsth> giard, it's an ad-hoc network and I cant see how the network tool will let me setup the primary machine so the laptop can access the net thru it
[03:08] <squeaky> but i tried cd C: like in dos and it no work
[03:08] <daniels> tritium: but Apple also expose it via OpenFirmware, and that's a good card-independent way to check it.  so we just look at OpenFirmware.
[03:08] <tritium> steve_, I've been trying.  Did you use your user password?
[03:08] <julio> there is no "C" drive in linux.
[03:08] <paulsth> giard, there's no router, just 2 network cards. both using ndiswrapper
[03:08] <steve_> yeap, no luck on that one
[03:08] <tritium> daniels, I see.
[03:08] <daniels> tritium: now, some cards will do DDC fine through OpenFirmware, but they won't do it all through I2C.  so we look at it in ddcprobe and say 'ah, that's fine then, X can figure it out', but X can't, because DDC/i2c fails
[03:08] <daniels> tritium: apple are guilty of having done this a few times
[03:09] <giard> paulsth: not sure how to do ad hoc, sorry
[03:09] <paulsth> damn. thanks for trying
[03:09] <tritium> daniels, Oh, I see.  Wow.
[03:09] <K-Rich> randabis: you on ?
[03:09] <daniels> crimsun: one way to do it is to have a script that hotplug calls to manage /dev/mouseX (or whatever) symlinks, and then you can kill X with SIGUSR2 to get it to reload all its input devices when the symlink target changes
[03:09] <daniels> crimsun: a woeful hack, but it works
[03:09] <daniels> tritium: yeah.  that's what I said. ;)
[03:09] <tritium> daniels, :)
[03:10] <crimsun> daniels: excellent, thanks for the advice.
[03:10] <tritium> steve_, so you tried "sudo -s -H" with your user password, and it failed?
[03:10] <daniels>  9701 daniels   15   0  375m 172m  14m S  0.7 34.2  61:08.11 firefox-bin
[03:10] <daniels> thanks firefox!
[03:10] <daniels> crimsun: no worries
[03:11] <steve_> well, from a terminal I can do sudo, but when I click on the partition tool throught the link, then it asks for my root password
[03:11] <steve_> kind of weird
[03:11] <tritium> steve_, and when you use your user password there, it fails?
[03:11] <steve_> yeap
[03:11] <tritium> the same one you used with sudo?
[03:11] <steve_> yeah
[03:12] <steve_> I have tried a hundred times, same result
[03:12] <tritium> steve_, maybe your room-mate did setup a root password then
[03:12] <steve_> well, any answers to that one then
[03:12] <Amaranth> steve_: sudo password -l root
[03:12] <Amaranth> err
[03:12] <tritium> yep
[03:12] <Amaranth> wrong command
[03:12] <steve_> okay
[03:12] <tritium> but that's the idea
[03:12] <Amaranth> i forget how they shorten it, it's been awhile
[03:12] <tritium> change root's password
[03:12] <Amaranth> -l locks it
[03:13] <tritium> but I don't understand why it's asking for root's passwd instead of yours
[03:13] <steve_> can you tell me how to change it
[03:13] <steve_> I am not certain either
[03:13] <tritium> steve_, you're in a terminal, having done sudo -s -H, right?
[03:13] <steve_> a first
[03:13] <steve_> yeap, it works
[03:13] <Amaranth> sudo passwd root and change it
[03:13] <Amaranth> or -l and just lock it
[03:13] <tritium> passwd root
[03:13] <steve_> okay
[03:13] <Amaranth> you should just lock it and use sudo
[03:14] <tritium> I agree
[03:14] <steve_> cool, seems to work
[03:14] <steve_> I will try it real quick
[03:14] <steve_> tritium, you are the man
[03:14] <tritium> steve_, still, the configuration apps are supposed to ask for your password
[03:14] <tritium> So I'm not too pleased with how we fixed that
[03:14] <steve_> cool
[03:15] <tritium> but if it works for you...
[03:15] <AndyFitz> libgc 6.4 needs to be added to the repo  lol.  currently 6.3 is the latest in hoary
[03:15] <Amaranth> tritium: You're a dev?
[03:15] <tritium> Amaranth, no...
[03:15] <Amaranth> oh
[03:15] <Amaranth> you mean how we fixed his problem :P
[03:15] <tritium> Amaranth, how come?
[03:15] <Amaranth> not all there right now
[03:15] <tritium> Amaranth, I used "we"
[03:15] <raydogg``> is there a how-to on installing rpm's from ati.com for my radeon video card in ubuntu ?
[03:15] <Amaranth> daniels: PING?
[03:16] <syn-ack> Man, the more I use Rhythmbox, the more I like.
[03:16] <tritium> Amaranth, as in you, me, and steve_
[03:16] <Amaranth> tritium: yeah
[03:16] <AndyFitz> raydoggm  just use fglrx already in the repo
[03:16] <tritium> Amaranth, so what are you correcting me on?  I used "we"...
[03:16] <raydogg``> yeah it works well for 2d
[03:16] <raydogg``> but not for 3d :-(
[03:16] <Amaranth> tritium: i'm not, i was asking a question :P
[03:16] <AndyFitz> fglrx does work well for 3d
[03:16] <tritium> oh, okay
[03:16] <steve_> another question for you tritium. anyway to scan for available wireless networks
[03:17] <Amaranth> steve_: there is a GNOME tray icon thingie that does that
[03:17] <raydogg``> How dou install the kernel source for ubuntu ?
[03:17] <AndyFitz> raydogg`` ,  was playing ut2004 & q3   yesterday fine  with fglrx on a old radeon 9250
[03:17] <Amaranth> I think it might actually be called NetworkManager
[03:17] <tritium> steve_, is this Warty?
[03:17] <steve_> I have to ask, is it already installed
[03:17] <syn-ack> AndyFitz: that leads me to a question, how does that work for the ATI Mobile Radeon IGP 350s?
[03:17] <usual> AndyFitz, hey :)
[03:17] <steve_> I see the power level
[03:17] <AndyFitz> syn-ack,  no idea mate
[03:17] <tritium> steve_, no, NetworkManager is in thom's repository
[03:17] <Amaranth> AndyFitz: The 9250 is supported by the DRI project's driver so Ubuntu was probably using that.
[03:17] <AndyFitz> g'day usual :)
[03:18] <randabis> :( very unhappy
[03:18] <tritium> And I think it's for Hoary, but I'm not sure
[03:18] <steve_> yes
[03:18] <raydogg``> I have a 9700
[03:18] <randabis> ended up having to format the partition
[03:18] <usual> AndyFitz, icons are coming great, oh and btw, the metacity theme grew on me
[03:18] <daniels> Amaranth: sup
[03:18] <usual> AndyFitz, I use the whole theme
[03:18] <randabis> almost 60 GB of data lost
[03:18] <AndyFitz> usual,  the milk-flat rounded metacity ?
[03:18] <Amaranth> daniels: will hoary get X.org 6.8.2?
[03:18] <steve_> Tritium it is Warty
[03:18] <usual> AndyFitz, yeah
[03:19] <tritium> steve_, I'm not aware of a good solution for you on that.
[03:19] <AndyFitz> nice,   I only think it will work once there are drop shadows to give more focus to window borders
[03:19] <steve_> I found a program, I think I will try it and see, ya know
[03:19] <usual> AndyFitz, still working on the iconset?
[03:19] <randabis> streamtuner segfaults :(
[03:20] <AndyFitz> usual,  of course , got another few updates I should put on gnome-look I think
[03:21] <tritium> that was a quick resolution, daniels.  Thanks again.
[03:21] <usual> AndyFitz, oh ok, cool. Look forward to it. I am using the industrial mod you made also
[03:21] <daniels> Amaranth: yes.  it has 6.8.2rc2, and i'm about to upload 6.8.2rc3.
[03:21] <daniels> tritium: no worries, thanks for the report
[03:21] <raydogg``> I need the kernel headers and source so i can compile a kernel module, i tried apt-get install kernel-source but it said no package found
[03:21] <daniels> Amaranth: (and it has Mesa's 6.2.x branch and the i810 and unichrome drivers from HEAD)
[03:21] <AndyFitz> cool,  I was thinking of switching to the clearlooks engine..  but then I noticed the performance was alot worse than industrial
[03:21] <K-Rich> randabis: What is that transparent terminal you use in the root window on your laptop ?
[03:21] <Amaranth> daniels: Cool. Does that have the fix for the rv100 driver?
[03:22] <Amaranth> daniels: Last time I asked about this I thought I was using the r100. (mesa t_vertex)
[03:22] <usual> AndyFitz, nothing like the clean engine
[03:22] <usual> AndyFitz, cleanice? clean something
[03:22] <usual> AndyFitz, the simple gnome theme is fassssttt
[03:22] <AndyFitz> clearlooks  its new on gnome-look.  its based off the bluecurve engine
[03:22] <Boohbah> raydogg``: it must not be called kernel-source then
[03:22] <raydogg``> Yeah i figured, i was hoping someone knew :-)
[03:23] <usual> AndyFitz, downloading it now
[03:23] <AndyFitz> usual,  simple is very fast. I switch to it when doing tedious production work
[03:23] <AndyFitz> usual,  be warned it crashed my machine once
[03:23] <usual> AndyFitz, any chance on modding simple to look better
[03:24] <usual> AndyFitz, I have had X crash 3 times today
[03:24] <arakno> hey, by chance, does anybody know if the unmaximize pixmap was fixed in hoary's default theme?
[03:25] <usual> clearlooks-engine_0.2.2-1_i386.deb
[03:25] <usual> :)
[03:25] <Amaranth> when i get net access back to my hoary machine i'm going to have like 1GB of updates to get :/
[03:26] <usual> AndyFitz, ooo it's nice
[03:26] <AndyFitz> usual,  ouch man... ouch  3 crashes is not fun
[03:26] <usual> AndyFitz, I like clearlooks so far
[03:27] <AndyFitz> I have to confess.,   every now and again I switch to the glossyP theme
[03:27] <tritium> daniels, I'm still puzzled as to how XFree86 got edid data on Warty install, if DDC/i2c fails.
[03:27] <steve_> Tritium, I found a program called kismet, but when I go to compile it, it asks for a C compiler. Any ideas
[03:28] <AndyFitz> usual,  I like clearlooks  but some of the eyecandy things are irritating ..  I did a colourmod to its gtkrc but it didnt grow on me
[03:28] <geppy> how do I rebuild the kernel with option "CONFIG_SECURITY_CAPABILITIES=m"?
[03:28] <daniels> tritium: it always wrote out sync ranges, because it assumed that the X server was stupid
[03:28] <usual> AndyFitz, I would like to see a color mod of simple
[03:28] <usual> AndyFitz, it's sooo snappy
[03:28] <tritium> steve_, "sudo apt-get install build-essential" if you want standard development environment
[03:28] <daniels> Amaranth: i don't think 6.8.2 will, but we patch it in anyway
[03:28] <usual> AndyFitz, it's just so ....grey
[03:28] <tritium> daniels, I see...
[03:28] <steve_> cool, I will try it
[03:29] <Amaranth> steve_: You want NetworkManager.
[03:29] <steve_> what is that
[03:29] <steve_> and where can I get it
[03:30] <Amaranth> it's a tray icon that shows all the wireless networks available to you and whether or not they are protected
[03:30] <steve_> where can I get it
[03:30] <Amaranth> and all i can find is a mailing list post about someone having trouble running it with ubuntu
[03:30] <AndyFitz> cleanice is actually really fast too
[03:30] <tritium> steve_, that's the one that I mentioned is in thom's repository
[03:31] <tritium> Amaranth, isn't that for Hoary?
[03:31] <steve_> cool, do you have the Url for that one
[03:31] <daniels> Amaranth: it's a solved problem
[03:31] <steve_> I do have Warty
[03:31] <gnum4n> I am running the AMD64 build how can I get things like DVD playback working?
[03:31] <Amaranth> daniels: Good to know, it's really nice looking.
[03:31] <usual> AndyFitz, your the art guy...make it pretty! :)
[03:31] <steve_> Tritium, I tried the apt install and it did not see the file
[03:31] <usual> AndyFitz, tried this? http://art.gnome.org/images/thumbnails/gtk2/GTK2-Iceberg-Shot.png
[03:32] <tritium> Stereotype, http://people.ubuntu.com/~thom/network-manager/
[03:32] <tritium> oops
[03:32] <steve_> cool
[03:32] <tritium> steve_, see that link I sent to Stereotype (sorry!)
[03:32] <steve_> it is alright
[03:32] <AndyFitz> usual,  I guess I am an art guy hey.  will have a gtkrc hack up later tonight then :)
[03:33] <Amaranth> oh, NetworkManager needed a new dbus
[03:33] <Amaranth> so i'm guessing that's a hoary only thing
[03:33] <usual> AndyFitz, good stuff, I think with the right colors ...cleanice would be sooo sweet
[03:33] <usual> AndyFitz, mist is very light as well
[03:34] <geppy> How can you reinstall something without removing it first?
[03:34] <JConnell> I've installed reiserfs4progs, and formatted a partition with reiser in qtparted, but it just says "reiserfs"...is there a way I can make sure if its 3.6 or 4.0?
[03:34] <tritium> geppy, apt-get install --reinstall
[03:34] <geppy> tritium:  Thanks!
[03:34] <tritium> sure
[03:35] <AndyFitz> usua,  yeah cleanice is pretty sweet.   I think etiquette will eventually use the pixmap engine  tho  ( just because it gives more visual options )
[03:35] <usual> AndyFitz, thats all good, but whatever happens it's got to be a balance of light and pretty
[03:36] <AndyFitz> usua,  I do most production on a celery 500  with 128mb sdram .,... whatever I end up with will be light  in my opinion lol
[03:36] <usual> AndyFitz, haha agreed
[03:37] <AndyFitz> if it runs its passes the test
[03:37] <AndyFitz> okay mate I gotta head to the office,   seeya usual
[03:38] <usual> AndyFitz, cya
[03:39] <geppy> How can you purge an application?
[03:39] <fluo> geppy: do you mean uninstall?
[03:39] <tritium> geppy, apt-get remove --purge, or dpkg --purge
[03:39] <geppy> fluo:  I uninstalled, but it didn't all go away.
[03:39] <usual> geppy, dpkg --purge package
[03:39] <geppy> Thanks.
[03:41] <geppy> hrm...
[03:41] <geppy> I've now reinstalled, and the app claims that it can't be found.
[03:42] <geppy> Oh, it's just in a different bin
[03:44] <flibble> hi
[03:46] <Quest-Master> http://tr.openmonkey.com/files/images/ubuntuubuntu.jpg <-- haha, that is awesome
[03:47] <squeaky> THANK YOU ALL
[03:47] <geppy> haha
[03:47] <geppy> that _is- cool
[03:47] <squeaky> i got it working from the bios setup
[03:47] <squeaky> the second hard drive was off :-D
[03:47] <flibble> yah
[03:48] <squeaky> I LOVE YOU ALL
[03:48] <flibble> nice to see a bigass telcodoing something good also
[03:48] <squeaky> PHYSICALLY
[03:56] <xvers> hey.. can anyone please help me with my apt-get sources.list
[03:56] <xvers> i just installed ubuntu and i think i need to update it
[03:57] <fluo> xvers: what do you need?
[03:57] <xvers> an updated sources.list
[03:57] <yellowshark> hi all
[03:57] <fluo> do you want to add universe, metaverse and other repositories?
[03:58] <yellowshark> has anyone had any problems with Warty and firefox/mozilla starting up?
[03:58] <xvers> my apt-get install command never works
[03:58] <fluo> xvers: have you tried synaptic?
[03:58] <paulsth> arrrgh! i'm tearing my hair out! is it even POSSIBLE to connect two wireless network cards without a wireless router??
[03:59] <xskoulax> yellowshark, firefox running like a champ on this warty install
[03:59] <xvers> for example apt-get install xmms    e: package xmms has no installation candidate
[03:59] <yellowshark> xskoulax: mine was working for a few days, but now, I click on the icon (or start it from a terminal session) and it just sits there, no error messages, or anything
[03:59] <jmhodges> paulsth: one must be set up as a dhcp server of some kind i would assume
[03:59] <xvers> synaptic doesnt seem to update
[04:00] <jmhodges> paulsth: or both machines would have to have ip numbers set some other way
[04:00] <flibble> yellowshark... try the full path to the executable
[04:00] <mike998> yellowshark: I get some delays with firefox starting...have you tried opening a terminal and using the top command to see if anything is happening
[04:00] <paulsth> jmhodges, but how does one do the dhcp setup? the network tool doesn't seem to show me
[04:00] <jmhodges> you install dhcpd
[04:00] <jmhodges> which is somewhere in there..
[04:00] <jmhodges> something like dhcp-server etc
[04:01] <yellowshark> flibble: just tried it, same behavior
[04:01] <nappies> i just installed ubuntu and it loads everything and then displays a blank screen
[04:01] <fluo> xvers: i'd try going into synaptic, going to settings > repositories and making sure that all of them are enabled
[04:01] <jmhodges> when netbooting a machine are pkgs grabbed over the internet or can a "base system" be installed and more can be added later?
[04:01] <yellowshark> mike998: nothing in top, but there are firefox processes running.  I've tried killing the processes and restarting, but nothing happens that way either
[04:01] <fluo> xvers: and then tell it to reload
[04:01] <paulsth> jmhodges, so it's as easy as installing (guessing) dhcp-server ?
[04:01] <flibble> yellowshark: any error msg ?
[04:01] <mike998> yellowshark: just thought I would ask
[04:01] <jmhodges> paulsth: possibly
[04:01] <jmhodges> you might want to look into it
[04:01] <xvers> thanks fluo
[04:01] <xskoulax> yellowshark, you installed anything or messed with any configuration stuff recently??
[04:02] <xvers> ill try it
[04:02] <yellowshark> flibble: nothing, nothing in the logs, no error to stdout, nothing loads
[04:02] <jmhodges> it depends on what you mean by "connecting two wireless cards"
[04:02] <fluo> xvers: if that doesn't work, i can try helping you with the source list via a text editor
[04:02] <paulsth> jmhodges, just an ad-hoc network with two wlan cards
[04:02] <yellowshark> xskoulax: No, I really haven't had a chance to mess with much, I just switched from debian to ubuntu a few days ago
[04:02] <flibble> yellowshark: so you type something like: '/usr/bin/firefox' and nothing happens at all ?
[04:03] <yellowshark> flibble:  correct, no output or anything, just a blank line
[04:03] <flibble> yellowshark: i don't know if that's the right path, just an example btw
[04:03] <flibble> yellowshark: try ps -Al in a term
[04:03] <yellowshark> flibble: and for what it's worth, mozilla won't start up either
[04:03] <jmhodges> paulsth: then yep, should just be that easy.. however, you wont be able to access the internet without some other equipment
[04:03] <yellowshark> flibble: however I just installed epiphany (when I was having firefox trouble) and it works just fine
[04:03] <paulsth> jmhodges, yeah my desktop is wired to a router. i just want to get my laptop to use that connection
[04:03] <xskoulax> yellowshark, no idea i'm afraid.  All i can suggest is to whip out apt and reinstall firefox
[04:04] <paulsth> i've been trying for weeks
[04:04] <flibble> yellowshark: i agree with xskoulax
[04:04] <jmhodges> paulsth: ah, then what you really need to do is set up the desktop as a gateway
[04:04] <xskoulax> \o/ someone agreed with me on a linux issue
[04:04] <paulsth> jmhodges, how do I go about that?
[04:04] <jmhodges> paulsth: check out tldp.org for more info
[04:04] <jmhodges> search around for the networking HOWTOs
[04:04] <xvers> fluo.. i think its doing to work.. its downloading.. thanks a lot
[04:04] <paulsth> jmhodges, will do
[04:05] <jmhodges> there'll be a ton of extremely handy stuff in there
[04:05] <fluo> xvers: you're welcome
[04:05] <jmhodges> im not very experienced in gateway creation, etc
[04:05] <linuxwig> curse you evolution
[04:05] <yellowshark> well, I was a little intimidated when I did an apt-get remove mozilla-firefox and it asked if it was ok that it remove ubuntu-desktop
[04:05] <paulsth> jmhodges, thanks though, at least there's some hope
[04:05] <jmhodges> linuxwig: wishing you were rid of your pinky toe already?
[04:05] <jmhodges> paulsth: definitely, it shouldn't be anything more than a few iptable commands
[04:05] <linuxwig> jmhodges: i can't convince 2.1.4 to talk to either of my IMAP accounts :(
[04:06] <jmhodges> suck :-/
[04:06] <linuxwig> and i checked with sylpheed to make sure they were working and there's no problem at all
[04:06] <stuNNed> what is the name of the .deb for alsaplayer?
[04:06] <mike998> yellowshark: if you do that and everything is okay, can you let me know?
[04:06] <yellowshark> I hadn't planned on removing ubuntu-desktop, that's pretty critical isn't it?
[04:06] <faddat> okay
[04:06] <mike998> what does it do?
[04:07] <lordan> yellowshark, ubuntu-desktop is just a meta-package..
[04:07] <yellowshark> also, I'm not sure if anyone ran into this one (I'm thinking of filing a bug report) but Nautilus wouldn't start for me, and I found the famd process was going crazy, so I killed famd and nautilus started fine
[04:07] <linuxwig> jmhodges: by and large most things are actually working correctly, though, now that i've upgraded to hoary
[04:07] <yellowshark> lordan: so it won't actually remove any packages, just the meta package?
[04:07] <jmhodges> hoary is great
[04:07] <jmhodges> but it'll eat your soul
[04:07] <faddat> can anyone point me in the right direction for moving FROM MandrakeLinux 10.1 TO Ubuntu?  All I need to have remaining at the end is /home.  I'm trying and having trouble with it (it keeps saying there's something wrong with /dev/hda6 (/home).
[04:07] <linuxwig> the hal stuff in warty did not get along with intel's new crazy chipset
[04:08] <jmhodges> really?
[04:08] <jmhodges> hunh..
[04:08] <jmhodges> good to know
[04:08] <linuxwig> yeah, it would lock up as soon as the daemon started
[04:08] <lordan> yes. ubuntu-desktop just depends on other packages
[04:08] <linuxwig> at least, i'm pretty sure it was dbus
[04:08] <faddat> I'm grabbing hoary right now, actually it just finished downloading
[04:08] <linuxwig> either way, something didn't get along with the computer
[04:08] <jmhodges> linuxboy: natch
[04:08] <lordan> yellowshark, are you on hoary
[04:08] <yellowshark> nope, warty
[04:08] <lordan> in that case fam should go
[04:08] <linuxwig> and it took a little creativity to get broadcom's own custom driver compiled and inserted
[04:08] <faddat> so I'll be rebooting and checking it out soon, see if the problem just "goes away".  Anyone heard of something like this or anything like that?
[04:08] <linuxwig> when the NIC doesn't work and there's no floppy drive
[04:09] <lordan> as in die
[04:09] <lordan> do you have gamin installed?
[04:09] <linuxwig> but now i'm groovin' and all i need is an xorg upgrade that can use non-standard resolutions with the i915, so i can switch to 1680x1050 finally
[04:09] <linuxwig> other than that, everything's awesome 8)
[04:09] <yellowshark> should I blow away my .mozilla directory too?
[04:10] <jmhodges> linuxboy: nice :)
[04:10] <jmhodges> good luck with all that
[04:10] <lordan> speaking of xorg, does anybody happen to have a tnt2 card?
[04:10] <linuxwig> i would upgrade the video card in here, but i have no idea what i would upgrade it to
[04:10] <lordan> and xorg, linux-2.6.10 *and* dri working?
[04:10] <linuxwig> since it has to be a half-height pci express video card
[04:11] <linuxwig> which limits me to the radeon X300 and nothing else, basically
[04:11] <yellowshark> now here's an interesting error message
[04:11] <yellowshark> apt-get install mozilla-firefox ubuntu-desktop
[04:11] <linuxwig> evolution gave me an interesting error message when i went to figure out what was going on with the IMAP
[04:11] <nappies> i just finished installing ubuntu and it loads up until right before login and then displays a blank screen
[04:11] <mike998> oh... btw if anyone is interested... I was having a problem with getting cedega to have any sound when playing games... turns out that the sound server should be disabled in Gnome
[04:12] <linuxwig> "wtf is this: *** NO DATA ***"
[04:12] <yellowshark> Media Change: Please insert the disc labelled 'Ubuntu 4.10 _Warty Warthog_
[04:12] <linuxwig> yellowshark: remove the cdrom from /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:13] <yellowshark> linuxwig: ohh, does it put that there by default?
[04:13] <linuxwig> yeah, i think so
[04:13] <lordan> it does
[04:13] <linuxwig> i removed it to keep my computer from asking for the CD
[04:13] <linuxwig> not that it would anyway now that i've updated to hoary
[04:13] <lordan> the installer actually informs you that it has added the cd
[04:13] <lordan> to sources.list
[04:14] <jmhodges> when netbooting a machine are pkgs grabbed over the internet or can a "base system" be installed and more can be added later?
[04:14] <linuxwig> it installs a very base system
[04:14] <jmhodges> ahh ok awesome
[04:14] <linuxwig> at least, debian does, i assume ubuntu's netboot is probably the same
[04:14] <bob2> the whole ubuntu-desktop system is installed by default
[04:14] <jmhodges> thanks linuxwig
[04:14] <speel> hey im about to install ubuntu .. i just want to know is there any cd writing utilities that come with it?
[04:14] <linuxwig> so it gives you a bootable system, but you really need a network connection to do anything useful
[04:14] <linuxwig> speel: nautilus is capable of cd burning
[04:15] <jmhodges> if its all in those netboot files they have up on the site, than thats all i need
[04:15] <bob2> speel: of course
[04:15] <linuxwig> though i've not tried it myself yet
[04:15] <bob2> jmhodges: no
[04:15] <speel> ah yes i completly for got tha
[04:15] <speel> that*
[04:15] <jmhodges> bob2: :(
[04:15] <linuxwig> i tried to convince libdvdcss to work with totem, but it didn't work :(
[04:15] <jmhodges> damn..
[04:15] <bob2> jmhodges: that's the installer.  everything else (ubuntu-desktop) is downloaded off a mirror.
[04:15] <yellowshark> :-( removing and reinstall didn't fix the problem
[04:15] <speel> thanks ;)
[04:15] <jmhodges> bob2: fsck..
[04:15] <jmhodges> bob2: i wont have an internet connection when i netboot :-/
[04:15] <bob2> yellowshark: reinstalling things is almost never a useful way to fix a problem
[04:16] <bob2> jmhodges: then you need to setup a netboot system (tftp, dhcp and the netboot files off a ubuntu mirror) and a copy of the cd as your local mirror to install from.
[04:16] <nappies> thanks this is great support
[04:16] <yellowshark> bob2: You're right, but when I'm out of ideas, I ask for help, and it was a suggestion
[04:16] <nappies> nice OS honestly good job
[04:16] <jmhodges> bob2: right, so like an ftpd on my desktop along with tftpd, dhcpd, etc ?
[04:16] <bob2> yellowshark: the "error" was it just asking you for a cd
[04:17] <bob2> jmhodges: well, I'd go with http, but yeah
[04:17] <jmhodges> bob2: natch
[04:17] <yellowshark> bob2: no, I received that error when trying to reinstall the package
[04:17] <yellowshark> bob2: the "error" that I'm having is firefox and mozilla won't start
[04:18] <bob2> jmhodges: note that the warty cd does not contain enough stuff to setup a netboot server
[04:20] <delltony> anyone have a link to where i can get the libdvdcss2 by chance?
[04:20] <jmhodges> bob2: right, so i need to essential grab all of the pkgs from a mirror and toss them on my desktop machine right?
[04:20] <bob2> delltony: please read the wiki
[04:20] <bob2> jmhodges: no
[04:21] <FR500> hello
[04:21] <jmhodges> bob2: ok :-/
[04:21] <bob2> delltony: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:21] <delltony> let me go and read it i have it in the resportory i thought
[04:21] <delltony> but its not working
[04:21] <bob2> jmhodges: you need a cd or a local mirror to install from.  in addition, you need to copy a bunch of files (maybe 5MB worth) off an ubuntu mirror and setup your tftp server to serve them.
[04:23] <delltony> yeah i had the wrong link in there thanks bob i had read it before but the link had changed
[04:23] <jmhodges> bob2: well.. right.. i wont have a cdrom on the machine im installing ubuntu on, so i'll need a local mirror.  theres the netboot files i've already grabbed in preparation of the install off the ubuntu website, but i need to create a mirror on the desktop machine as the local mirror yes?
[04:23] <jmhodges> the netboot files i've grabbed are already set up, and ill i need to do is install tftpd, dhcpd etc to get them to be served
[04:24] <bob2> jmhodges: mount the cd on another machine and serve the root of the cd via ftp/http
[04:24] <jmhodges> ah, ok, i misunderstood what you meant by "note that the warty cd does not contain enough stuff to setup a netboot server"
[04:25] <bob2> it is missing the correct kernel and initrd
[04:32] <niptac> is ubuntu debian?
[04:32] <FR500> yes
[04:32] <Quest-Master> niptac: It is based on Debian and very similar to it
[04:32] <bitfoo> whats up :|
[04:32] <bitfoo> i need the help :|
[04:32] <bitfoo> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=13365
[04:32] <bitfoo> :/
[04:35] <niptac> The synaptic in ubuntu only shows that there are some 2271 packages available, I thought there were supposed to be around 15 000 as in debian
[04:37] <Quest-Master> niptac: Do you have universe and multiverse enabled?
[04:39] <niptac> Quest-Master I only enabled the first 2 lines as it mentions in sources.list, it says that universe packages are not supported by ubuntu team and there is no security updates for it so I only enabled the 2 lines "archive.ubuntu.com" for warty
[04:39] <linuxwig> mystery solved
[04:40] <bitfoo> RAWRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
[04:41] <Quest-Master> niptac: You should enable multiverse and universe still. They are quite stable and I bet everyone on this channel has them enabled.
[04:41] <Quest-Master> They really don't cause that many problems.
[04:41] <niptac> I see
[04:42] <FLeiXiuS> niptac: The universe and multiverse include almost all of the packages out there, they are almost standardized as stable.
[04:42] <niptac> there is only a universe url in sources.list whats the multiverse url?
[04:42] <niptac> ok
[04:42] <Agrajag> same thing
[04:42] <FLeiXiuS> http://ubuntuguide.org
[04:42] <bitfoo> you type multiverse after it
[04:42] <bitfoo> :|
[04:43] <FLeiXiuS> Read up on there, it has a lot of starters
[04:43] <Agrajag> just add multiverse after universe on that line
[04:43] <niptac> thanks I'l read it
[04:43] <niptac> ok thanks for help
[04:47] <bitfoo> :|
[04:47] <bitfoo> someone help the bitfoo :(
[04:47] <bitfoo> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=13365
[04:48] <bob2> you're more likely to get a good answer on the list than on the forums
[04:48] <bitfoo> the list?
[04:49] <bob2> bitfoo: cat /proc/sys/kernel/hotplug
[04:49] <bob2> what does that print out?
[04:49] <bitfoo> /sbin/hotplug
[04:50] <bob2> hm
[04:52] <britt_radiofree> yo
[04:52] <bitfoo> :}
[04:52] <bitfoo> j0
[04:52] <britt_radiofree> any ruby guys around?
[04:52] <bitfoo> O_o
[04:54] <bob2> bitfoo: does "ls /lib/hotplug/firmware/ipw2100-*-$(uname -r)" print anything?
[04:55] <bitfoo> ls: /lib/hotplug/firmware/ipw2100-*-2.6.10.acpihack: No such file or directory
[04:56] <bob2> well, there you go
[04:57] <bob2> rebuild the kernel and don't twiddle the version
[04:57] <bitfoo> ?
[04:57] <bitfoo> dont twiddle? :|
[04:57] <bob2> you changed the version
[04:57] <bitfoo> the wiki said --append-version :/
[04:57] <bob2> also, that kernel building howto is crap
[04:57] <bitfoo> oh :|
[04:57] <bitfoo> crap i have to rebuild it O_O
[04:57] <bob2> ogra: why do you have people building kernels in /usr/src/?
[04:58] <bitfoo> you should change it bob2 if its wrong
[04:58] <bitfoo> so clueless noobs like me dont mess up again :|
[04:58] <britt_radiofree> just using ruby (specifically rubygems) is good enough :)
[05:02] <britt_radiofree> any ruby users around?
[05:04] <faddat> So, I bet that Hoary doesn't startup non-graphical by default, does it?
[05:04] <bob2> indeed
[05:05] <melazyboy2> ...
[05:05] <melazyboy2> it depends on what you mean by default
[05:05] <HrdwrBoB> faddat: well no
[05:05] <jayeola> hi guys, does anyone have the url for the multiverse?
[05:05] <HrdwrBoB> faddat: the vast majority of people want X
[05:05] <HrdwrBoB> jayeola: simply append multiverse the the sources.list line
[05:06] <Agrajag> jayeola: you know the line that has "universe" at the end?
[05:06] <faddat> mkay
[05:06] <HrdwrBoB> or the sections area in synaptic
[05:06] <melazyboy2> jayeola: same url in your /etc/apt/sources.list just in multiverse folder
[05:06] <faddat> I may need a bit o install help, if anyone is willing to give it to me
[05:06] <HrdwrBoB> faddat: sure, what's the problem
[05:06] <faddat> I'm just trying to use my same ol /home (which is an ext3 partition)
[05:06] <faddat> from a mandrake install
[05:06] <penguinpimp> newbie needs help with java, using firefox
[05:06] <faddat> and I point hoary at the right place for /
[05:07] <faddat> and the right place for swap
[05:07] <faddat> and the right place for /home
[05:07] <faddat> and I get non-graphical
[05:07] <faddat> ATI video card
[05:08] <faddat> I'm using Hoary array 3
[05:08] <faddat> and it installs just great
[05:08] <bob2> if yo did a fresh install and X didn't come up, youve found a bug
[05:09] <faddat> has a problem installing some updated packages, tho, so I'm going to tell it not to update the packages this time and see what happens
[05:09] <faddat> I may have found a bug!
[05:09] <bob2> assuming the cd is ok, etc
[05:10] <FAST> welp....... ubuntu just crashed hardcore on me.      though  i should say that TotemPlayer is to blame.  clicked a file in the recent file history, and it came up with a billion error messages "unable to open"
[05:11] <melazyboy2> i have an idea, we require a certain understanding of linux before dpkg allows a hoary install. maybe a quiz, a short test of some sort
[05:11] <FAST> and my X file is not proper
[05:11] <faddat> bob2: Well, I believe that the CD is okay
[05:11] <faddat> no errors on boot
[05:11] <FAST> so can someone suggest to me what configuration commands i can run from the console to get back into the GUI
[05:11] <bob2> "believe". go check.
[05:11] <lightcap_> any idea why mail wouldn't be sending with calls to mail() in php4? I can send mail fine with a call to mailx...
[05:11] <melazyboy2> FAST: 'gdm' or 'startx'
[05:12] <faddat> uh, checksums good?
[05:12] <melazyboy2> lightcap_: #php might?
[05:12] <lightcap_> and /usr/sbin/sendmail exists
[05:12] <FAST> i need configration tools,         i tried to run  XFree86 -configure, but it said something about glade not being installed (though im sure it is).     i need a configration tool to make my  conf file proper
[05:12] <faddat> (I'm sorry-- it *is* good)
[05:12] <lightcap_> well, it's pretty simple from the php perspective...it uses the underlying mail subsystem in *nix
[05:13] <lightcap_> melazyboy2: so its likely a postfix in unbuntu issue...
[05:14] <bitfoo> HOORAY FOR BOOBIES.
[05:14] <FAST> you said it
[05:14] <bob2> please stay on topic
[05:15] <bob2> lightcap_: read your logs.
[05:15] <faddat> So, what I'm going to do is take my good ubuntu disc and *not* do the dynamic update during the install, and see how it pans out.
[05:15] <FAST> someone recommended a command to run   "sudo " something, to configure X server, and set up my x conf file
[05:15] <faddat> Sound good?
[05:15] <FAST> anyone know what that is?
[05:16] <FAST> or is there a way to remove the configuration file for the X server, and run a tool to make a new one for me
[05:16] <melazyboy2> FAST: google is your friend
[05:16] <lightcap_> bob2: nothing there.
[05:16] <lightcap_> bob2: not in mail.err, mail.log or mail.info
[05:16] <lightcap_> but logging is working, since calls to mailx result in entries
[05:18] <paulst> hi again all
[05:18] <bob2> lightcap_: sounds like php is misconfigured somehow, try #php
[05:18] <bob2> FAST: why do you think your X config is broken?
[05:18] <paulst> i#'m trying to get dhcp-server to offer leases on wlan0, but i'm struggling. i cant get the dhcp3-server to start
[05:18] <paulst> anybody know about this stuff?
[05:19] <FR500> server?
[05:19] <FAST> bob2: earlier i was running some configuration in hopes that it would set my default resolution at 1024x768, instead of having 1280x1024 every single time i logged into ubuntu.    then the computer crashed as i said earlier, and now im stuck with not being able to get into the GUI at all
[05:20] <bob2> er, ok
[05:20] <decklin> paulst: do you have a subnet that you're going to serve for declared?
[05:20] <lightcap_> bob2: Im actually concerned that since these are debian based packages, they'd have been compiled to look for exim mail executables...
[05:20] <melazyboy2> FAST: are you running hoary or warty?
[05:20] <FAST> warty
[05:20] <bob2> lightcap_: no, they won't be
[05:20] <paulst> decklin, I dont know what the entry should look like in the conf file
[05:20] <lightcap_> though they should always be configured to look for /usr/sbin/sendmail and /var/lib/sendmail anyhow
[05:20] <melazyboy2> FAST: try dpkg-reconfig x-window-server
[05:20] <bob2> lightcap_: the former, yes
[05:21] <melazyboy2> FAST or rather, 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure x-window-server'
[05:21] <FAST> thanks
[05:22] <daniels> er
[05:22] <paulst> decklin, I have a subnet, but never having done anything to do with networking before, I dont know what it means/does
[05:23] <daniels> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:23] <monk_> which deb is ubuntu based off?
[05:23] <monk_> woody, sagre, what?
[05:23] <monk_> unstable?
[05:23] <melazyboy2> daniels: he is using warty
[05:23] <daniels> lightcap_: debian allows you to use postfix as well, and sendmail and ssmtp and whatever, and they are all equally supported
[05:23] <decklin> paulst: well, for example... i use eth1 for my internal network (this machine NATs for it)
[05:23] <daniels> monk_: sid
[05:23] <daniels> melazyboy2: in that case, xserver-xfree86
[05:23] <FR500> paulst, what is ur dhcp server?
[05:23] <FR500> a router? or you wantit to be the pc?
[05:23] <FAST> hope this works
[05:24] <monk_> thanks
[05:24] <decklin> paulst: it's 192.168.0.1. so the declaration is... subnet 192.168.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.224 { range 192.168.0.10 192.168.0.20; option routers 192.168.0.1; }
[05:24] <paulst> daniels, FR500, I have a desktop wired to a router. and I want my laptop to connect to it through it's wlan0 device
[05:24] <paulst> adhoc network
[05:24] <FR500> adhoc?
[05:24] <FR500> so both pcs have wireless?
[05:24] <paulst> FR500, yes
[05:24] <melazyboy2> decklin: that sounds aweful
[05:25] <FR500> why use dhcp then
[05:25] <FR500> an static ip will work just as fine
[05:25] <aToaster> is there a quick way to check what kernel version I'm running?
[05:25] <paulst> I was told thats what I needed to do
[05:25] <jdub> aToaster: uname -a
[05:25] <decklin> melazyboy2: ?
[05:25] <FR500> oh
[05:25] <paulst> FR500, how do I configure it with a static ip?
[05:25] <FR500> well i would asing manually ips to both
[05:25] <faddat> I didn't update dynamically this time
[05:25] <faddat> and
[05:25] <faddat> It's installing a whole ton of packages
[05:26] <aToaster> jdub, thanks
[05:26] <faddat> but at one point it told me that it was specifically excluding GCC from the install.  This confused me greatly.  Can anyone offer me a pearl of wisdom?  (I'm talking about Hoary Array3)
[05:27] <melazyboy2> decklin: just awed that your using /3 for network on a class C address, when you could make it a class B address, use a whole byte for network and have a whole byte for client
[05:28] <penguinitus> hello all...wondering if anyone knows how I can add a nice background image to the boot screen, like in gentoo or fedora...etc
[05:28] <regeya> man, the Ruby on Rails people weren't kidding when they said that installing it on Debian would be a PITA
[05:29] <daniels> faddat: we don't believe that gcc is required in the default install, so we exclude it: if you want to build stuff, install build-essential at the least
[05:29] <monk_> why is there no damn link for the file manager?
[05:29] <decklin> melazyboy2: which would get me what, exactly?
[05:29] <regeya> what I've seen so far tells me that it's UNBELIEVABLY SIMPLE
[05:31] <regeya> http://blog.leetsoft.com/articles/read/8 <- why some ruby people hate debian
[05:31] <melazyboy2> decklin: it just seems odd to dedicate more bits to network on a class C addy w/ an island address =/
[05:31] <bob2> monk_: "link"?
[05:32] <monk_> argh
[05:32] <monk_> this is insane
[05:32] <decklin> melazyboy2: if you can provide a reason why, by all means, i'm listening. i'll file a bug on the ISC documentation.
[05:32] <monk_> whats the text editor in ubuntu?
[05:32] <jdub> there are many
[05:33] <monk_> basic, so i can alter my sources.lst
[05:33] <faddat> Well
[05:33] <faddat> I've installed
[05:33] <halonine> applications -> accesories
[05:33] <halonine> If you're using Gnome.
[05:33] <faddat> turns out that the whole problem was one that I was having being unfamiliar with APT
[05:33] <monk_> i gotta run it outta a rot terminal
[05:33] <faddat> and the dynamic update process with UBUNTU
[05:33] <monk_> root*
[05:33] <faddat> and so the reason it wasn't starting X was that I was still in the setup subroutine
[05:34] <FAST> well... that didn't work. :(.       here's what i got:    "unable to find valid framebuffer device"      "nv(0) faile to open framebuffer device"    "fatal server error: no screens found"
[05:35] <melazyboy2> decklin: it will work, just awkward, every time i do it i just a whole byte to network and use class B island, 192,168.0.0 or class A island 10.0.0.0, don't have to subnet or think about more complex ANDing =/
[05:36] <melazyboy2> decklin: matter of style i suppose
[05:36] <FAST> melazyboy2: any suggestions?
[05:38] <melazyboy2> FAST: you tried daniel's correct way of doing it? 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86'
[05:38] <FR500> why is that network config screen always seem to hang
[05:38] <FR500> the it gets back after a while
[05:38] <monk_> is there anyting special i gotta do to add repos to my sources.lst?
[05:39] <melazyboy2> monk_: edit as superuser
[05:39] <rempresen1> how do i install a .dev that i just downloaded?
[05:39] <melazyboy2> rempresen1: dpkg -r
[05:39] <melazyboy2> err
[05:39] <monk_> i did that
[05:39] <froust> Does anyone know of an easy way to resize a bunch of images (they're all the same resolution/size, i just need them 30% of what they are)
[05:39] <melazyboy2> rempresen1: dpkg -i
[05:39] <rempresen1> thanks
[05:39] <monk_> but when i load synaptic, i get errors for the new repos
[05:40] <rempresen1> it said that they were dependency problems
[05:41] <monk_> Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com warty/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_warty_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[05:41] <monk_> wtf is that?
[05:42] <M3ta> do an apt-get update first
[05:42] <FAST> melazyboy2: yes, that's the one that was able to execute. i went through the setup and it was all fine. then tried startx, and got those error messages after it failed
[05:42] <monk_> ok
[05:42] <monk_> aha
[05:42] <monk_> cuz i added like 10 repos
[05:43] <melazyboy2> FAST: got me =/
[05:43] <melazyboy2> FAST: might want to try again with no X modules
[05:43] <FAST> melazyboy2: what do you mean?
[05:43] <M3ta> interesting. phpsysinfo sees "distro name" as "debian 3.1". seems like someone forgot some details of the "brading" ;)
[05:43] <lmurillo> hello
[05:43] <M3ta> branding*
[05:44] <lmurillo> I need somewhat of an explanation on how Ubuntu manages the printers, does it use CUPS or not?
[05:44] <jdub> it does
[05:44] <melazyboy2> FAST: run the command again when it asks you what x modules you want select nothing or unselect what is selected
[05:44] <monk_> how do i find an app that installs and DOESNT show up on my menu?
[05:45] <FAST> ok, so go through that setup again, but just deselect all of them? then finish that configurating, and run 'startx' ?
[05:45] <M3ta> monk_: you might try an 'updatedb' then a 'locate'
[05:45] <melazyboy2> FAST: its an idea =/
[05:45] <lmurillo> ok, so it uses CUPS, now how do I enable it so other systems can print over the network, without using samba
[05:45] <monk_> but how can i add it on the menu?
[05:46] <M3ta> monk_: use the menu editor? :)
[05:46] <melazyboy2> FAST: what video driver are you telling it to use, and what video card do you have
[05:46] <FAST> melazyboy2: NVidia / Vanta
[05:46] <FAST> i was using the one "nv"
[05:47] <monk_> which is where?
[05:47] <melazyboy2> FAST: hrm sounds good to me
[05:47] <lmurillo> the last time I had it working, with another distro, was by using the http address of the printer, it worked great and I had cups configured in a way that would only allow traffic from @IF(eth0)
[05:47] <FAST> melazyboy2: well here is the error message again:       "unable to find valid framebuffer device"      "nv(0) faile to open framebuffer device"    "fatal server error: no screens found"
[05:48] <aToaster> Anyone with a x800 manage to get the new ATI drivers to work?
[05:48] <monk_> where is the menu editor?
[05:49] <froust> toaster: i have a 9700 and no luck... they're still kinda... rough\
[05:49] <melazyboy2> FAST: don't know you will have to google fro that
[05:49] <melazyboy2> I have a 9600PRO no joy for me im using 2.6.11-rc2-mm2
[05:49] <dr_willis> Hmm
[05:50] <dr_willis> I got my ATi9700 working Under Ubuntu
[05:50] <aToaster> fglrxconfig doesn't even have an option for x800, heh
[05:50] <dr_willis> no idea about the x800 however.
[05:50] <aToaster> dr_willis: new drivers? whats your glxgears fps?
[05:50] <dr_willis> aToaster,  let me check.
[05:50] <dr_willis> I just got the drivers from snayoptic and altered ati in the xf86config to be "flgrx" or somthing
[05:50] <faddat1> okay, so now I've got another good question
[05:51] <faddat1> I'm up and running in UBUNTU
[05:51] <aToaster> dr_willis: oh, those aren't the newest drivers though, ATI released some as of this January
[05:51] <faddat1> but, the simple task of playing an MP3 file eludes me.  Do I need some sort of PLF-ish thing?
[05:51] <dr_willis> 2451 fps with glxtears
[05:51] <aToaster> Cedega work with the old ATI drivers?  Want to get WoW to work
[05:51] <dr_willis> aToaster,  yea they did. :P but i was suprised i got ANY of them to work
[05:51] <FAST> faddat: you can install the xmms package ?
[05:52] <dr_willis> i tried the new ati drivers with SUSE.. and for some reason it made X crash a lot.
[05:52] <dr_willis> i think they were the new ones..
[05:52] <faddat1> FAST: I'm sorry but as a total newbie to apt-get you'd have to tell me the best way to start doing such
[05:52] <dr_willis> its hard to tell these days
[05:52] <dr_willis> apt-get install xmms
[05:52] <dr_willis> apt-get install mpg123
[05:52] <dr_willis> is a nother player.
[05:52] <dr_willis> mpg123 foo.mp3
[05:53] <dr_willis> should play the file.
[05:53] <aToaster> dr_willis: wait sorry, so you did get Cedega to work?
[05:53] <faddat1> is there a plugin I could feed to Totem and Rhythmbox that I could just make them happy with?
[05:53] <dr_willis> aToaster,  never used Cedega - was going to try it out. but my main pc is nvidia.. the linxu box is ati.
[05:53] <crimsun> 'mpg123' is in 'multiverse'; 'xmms' and 'mpg321' are in 'universe'
[05:54] <bzbb> what is cedega?
[05:54] <dr_willis> i was going to use Cedga on my Nvidia based new machine.. but ubuntu dident like it.
[05:54] <crimsun> bzbb: http://www.transgaming.com
[05:54] <dr_willis> bzbb,  the new name for "winex" :P
[05:54] <lmurillo> I have added the printer, but can't seem to be able to print from the Windows XP PC, I have tried adding it through Samba but it tells me that I don't have any credentials, although I'm as the administrator of the network. I have also tried doing it the way I had it, using the URL (http://192.168.0.1:631/printers/deskjet-3650), and it tells me that it can't find the printer. How can I get the printer shared and be able to add it to the Window
[05:55] <aToaster> dang, well, looks like it'll be another ATI release (half a year? years?) before I will even think about completely switching over to linux
[05:55] <bzbb> oh
[05:55] <daniels> guys, glxgears is not a useful benchmark
[05:55] <aToaster> daniels: I just want to know that 3d accel is working, not for benchmarking
[05:56] <lmurillo> the printer is set up and configured on the Linux side, as I can print on Linux
[05:57] <faddat1> Isn't it a big turn off to new users that UBUNTU doesn't offer out of the box support for MP3's?
[05:57] <monk_> i just installed opera from a deb
[05:57] <bob2> faddat1: probably, but there's nothing anyone can do
[05:57] <dr_willis> aToaster,  if the older drivers work.. :P use them..  i dont think the new drivers will gain you 10000+ fps or anything.
[05:57] <bob2> faddat1: and it's easy to enable
[05:57] <daniels> faddat1: doing so would get us sued, so it's better than having Ubuntu not exist
[05:57] <faddat1> Indeed it is!
[05:58] <dr_willis> i havent even enabled mp3's :P
[05:59] <faddat1> How would I globally enable MP3's on my system?  I'm actually playing with UBUNTU for a project at the moment, and that's definately necessary
[05:59] <faddat1> hang on I'll google this
[05:59] <faddat1> sorry for bothering all
[05:59] <dr_willis> i think that ubuntuguide.org in the topic has exactly how to do it.
[06:00] <FR500> any way to make usb 1.1 harddrives work here?
[06:00] <dr_willis> Hmm.. they should work.
[06:00] <FR500> they need drivers in windows
[06:00] <dr_willis> plug them in. check dmesg - see if they are seen. Mount them.. (thast the old fashioned way)
[06:00] <FR500> there are no linux drivers though
[06:00] <dr_willis> windows is a little brain dead in ways :P
[06:01] <FR500> oh
[06:01] <dr_willis> there are  limnux drivers for usb drives. :P
[06:01] <dr_willis> they are most likely allready installed.
[06:01] <FR500> well dmesg shows usb -3: new full speed USB device using address 4
[06:02] <FR500> and nothing happens
[06:02] <bob2> FR500: is it ntfs or hfs?
[06:02] <dr_willis> no mention of a 'sda' or anything?
[06:02] <FR500> no
[06:02] <FR500> its fat
[06:03] <FR500> it's a harddisk not a flash memory btw
[06:04] <bzbb> still should use usb mass storage
[06:04] <Gunblade> Hello All
[06:04] <FR500> any way to force it or something?
[06:04] <Gunblade> Anyone on cause I just have a quick Q
[06:04] <bob2> no
[06:04] <FR500> no to who?
[06:05] <faddat1> uh, is there a default admin pass for ubuntu?
[06:05] <FAST> is there a configuration tool to automatically create my /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file ?
[06:05] <faddat1> Or is this another thing I'm doing wrong?
[06:05] <Agrajag> no, root is locked.
[06:05] <Agrajag> use sudo
[06:05] <bob2> FAST: yes, it was created during the install
[06:05] <Agrajag> faddat1: sudo <command> and use your own password
[06:05] <bob2> faddat1: you were told about sudo during the install, and it's in the FAQ
[06:05] <FAST> bob2: yep, i think it's gone now
[06:05] <faddat1> well
[06:05] <faddat1> I was using old fashioned SU
[06:05] <bloodwulf> hey guys how do i install a .SIT file thanks
[06:05] <Agrajag> sudo -s will give you a root shell
[06:06] <faddat1> but okay, that's the plan, then
[06:06] <faddat1> aja!
[06:06] <FR500> bzbb: any say to force it to use mass usb?
[06:06] <Agrajag> bloodwulf: install OS X
[06:06] <Agrajag> then double-click it
[06:06] <bzbb> FR500, no idea
[06:06] <faddat1> yay thank you all very much!
[06:06] <Gunblade> I am very new to linux and after comparing the OS's that were free I want to try out Ubuntu, so I downloaded the .ISO of Hoary-Live-i386 and I was just wondering is there a specific way I have to burn it onto a disc?
[06:06] <Gunblade> cause I just want to boot from it and load the OS on an older machine I have
[06:06] <bloodwulf> Agrajag oh i cant do it in linux?
[06:06] <FAST> just burn it as an image
[06:06] <MacPlusG3> Gunblade: which OS are you burning it from?
[06:06] <bob2> FR500: what would you "force"?  it wasn't detected.  paste the last...20 lines from /var/log/messages to #flood
[06:07] <Gunblade> Windows XP
[06:07] <FR500> open clone cd and burn
[06:07] <FAST> Gunblade: what software will you be using to burn it?
[06:07] <Agrajag> bloodwulf: no, you can't install OS X software on linux
[06:07] <FR500> ok bob
[06:07] <bob2> Gunblade: it's .iso, so however you normally burn cd images
[06:07] <MacPlusG3> Gunblade: you want an option like "burn disk image". try right clicking on the ISO. (i'm not familiar with windows)
[06:07] <lmurillo> nite
[06:07] <Gunblade> I have WinISO and DVDDecrypter...but if I can just do what I normally do which is the XP default of drag it to the CD Burning window and then click burn
[06:07] <FAST> dont do that
[06:07] <cafuego> No, *this* is
[06:08] <swim> hay does anyone know if its possible to get a tar out of a deb file?
[06:08] <cafuego> swim: alien -t foo.deb
[06:08] <swim> cafuego, cool thx
[06:08] <MacPlusG3> Gunblade: i don't think that will work. WinISO sounds promising
[06:08] <FAST> is there a configuration tool to automatically create my /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file ?            =\
[06:08] <FAST> that i can run from the console
[06:09] <swim> cafuego, should alien work on a non deb distro?
[06:09] <bob2> FAST: you've been answered something like 5 times now
[06:09] <bob2> FAST: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
[06:09] <FAST> bob2: that's not working
[06:09] <bob2> swim: if you can build/install it, yes
[06:09] <FR500> bob2: done
[06:09] <bob2> FAST: "not working" isn't enough information for anyone to help debug
[06:09] <swim> cool
[06:09] <FR500> the rest is wlan stuff
[06:10] <FAST> bob2:  well, it doesn't appear to create that file.     when i did try to run it, i completed the configuration just fine.  however, when i tried startx, i got the same error messages as before.   "fatal error: no screens found"
[06:10] <bob2> FAST: disable use of the framebuffer
[06:11] <cafuego> we need !noscreensfound here
[06:11] <FAST> bob2: i tried that, no dice
[06:11] <cafuego> Can I plonk a bootbot on the channel? :-)
[06:11] <FR500> bob2: i pasted, any clues?
[06:11] <Gunblade> Hmm with WinISO i have no idea...how to burn it..
[06:12] <FR500> is there an open file option?
[06:12] <cafuego> Gunblade: Win* ?
[06:12] <cafuego> Gunblade: See /topic
[06:12] <Gunblade> ?
[06:12] <cafuego> is WinISO Linux software?
[06:13] <Agrajag> cafuego: does it sound like it is?
[06:13] <Gunblade> nah I am on WinXP PRO on a an older laptop that has Windows NT on it >_< used to be a TS server
[06:13] <Agrajag> he's trying to burn a hoary CD
[06:14] <cafuego> Agrajag: How would #ubuntu know how WinISO works, then?
[06:14] <Agrajag> maybe instead of blindly going "HEY THAT'S NOT LINUX LALALA NOT LISTENING" you could pay attention
[06:14] <cafuego> a/Agrajag/Gunblade/
[06:14] <Agrajag> cafuego: some of us use windows too
[06:14] <Agrajag> I use windows
[06:14] <cafuego> Agrajag: I was under the impression help with windows software wasn't on topic here.
[06:14] <Agrajag> I don't use winiso, but someone might
[06:14] <encKe`> WinISO IS a win app
[06:14] <Gunblade> Hold on cafuego that wasn't my first question !lol
[06:14] <cafuego> Agrajag: I use it too, but you don't see me asking for help with Nero.
[06:14] <Agrajag> cafuego: he is trying to burn a hoary CD.
[06:15] <Agrajag> We COULD tell him to fuck off and get help elsewhere
[06:15] <cafuego> Agrajag: I don't see you helping him, I only see you berating me.
[06:15] <Agrajag> would that be in the whole ubuntu spirit I hear so much about?
[06:15] <Gunblade> And then you would lose another maybe linux user <_<
[06:15] <Agrajag> I don't use winiso, so I can't.
[06:15] <mebaran151> try the powertoy
[06:15] <mebaran151> it is ridiculously easy
[06:15] <bob2> FR500: that's all?
[06:15] <Agrajag> there is a windows frontend for cdrecord...
[06:16] <Gunblade> lol XD, the guys over at Fedora are asses though they didn't even respond to me...
[06:16] <Agrajag> let me look
[06:16] <FR500> yes
[06:16] <cafuego> Agrajag: Would I be correct in assuming most of not all people here don't use winiso?
[06:16] <FR500> the rest is wlan stuff
[06:16] <mebaran151> just search for ISO Powertoy
[06:16] <mebaran151> if you install it like it asks
[06:16] <mebaran151> you can right click an ISO and burn it to a CD
[06:16] <Agrajag> cafuego: I don't know. Maybe one person here, listening, does.
[06:16] <mebaran151> I use it all the time
[06:16] <Agrajag> and they could help.
[06:16] <bob2> FR500: I don't know then, it's very weird
[06:16] <cafuego> Agrajag: Reckon they would have said something by now?
[06:16] <bob2> FR500: you're using a normal ubunut kernel, right?
[06:16] <mebaran151> when I break my install myself
[06:16] <Agrajag> So asking a simple question shouldn't get a response like "oh, nobody here uses that, that's not linux, that's offtopic
[06:17] <FAST> Gunblade: http://members.home.nl/lsnoek/iso.htm
[06:17] <FR500> bob: yes
[06:17] <Agrajag> cafuego: maybe, or maybe you could let me go look for free windows cd burning softwrae and I could help him that way
[06:17] <cafuego> Agrajag: I don't see you helping him, I only see you berating me.
[06:17] <bob2> FR500: try asking on the list, I guess
[06:17] <Agrajag> goddamnit, stop talking to me and let me look!
[06:18] <cafuego> Agrajag: YOU could stop talking too, you know.
[06:18] <cafuego> Sheesh.
[06:18] <bitfoo> tell him to use dvdshrink
[06:18] <Gunblade> Hey guys Snowblink just gave me a link to a easy ISO burner so thanks very much!
[06:18] <Agrajag> or I could put you on ignore
[06:18] <bitfoo> i think it can do cds too :|
[06:18] <dr_willis> 'BurnAtOnce' is exelent for windows to burn iso files.
[06:18] <bob2> Agrajag: this is a big channel, people do need to try to stay on topic or it will become useless
[06:18] <Gunblade> Can I ask another Q though <_<
[06:18] <cafuego> Agrajag: Please
[06:18] <dr_willis> tiny. and open sourced
[06:18] <bitfoo> dvdshrink is the free also :O
[06:18] <FR500> bob, thx
[06:18] <tritium> Agrajag, please watch your potty mouth
[06:19] <bitfoo> whats potty :O
[06:19] <dr_willis> all its designed for is to burn iso files. (it may handle a few other types) -
[06:19] <randabis> ...
[06:19] <mebaran151> oy
[06:19] <tritium> bitfoo, are you seriously asking?
[06:19] <bitfoo> yeh
[06:19] <bitfoo> which part
[06:19] <tritium> toilet
[06:19] <bitfoo> god or damnint
[06:19] <bitfoo> :|
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[06:19] <tritium> lol
[06:19] <mebaran151> I am going to try gentoo soon
[06:20] <bitfoo> well good luck with THAT lol
[06:20] <mebaran151> I am getting rather sick of silly dependency problems
[06:20] <bitfoo> :|
[06:20] <mebaran151> bitfoo: I tried it before
[06:20] <mebaran151> and it worked
[06:20] <tritium> bitfoo, scroll up further for the "f" word from Agrajag
[06:20] <mebaran151> but then I broke it
[06:20] <mebaran151> for fun
[06:20] <mebaran151> of course
[06:20] <cafuego> tritium: 'free windows' ?
[06:20] <tritium> heh
[06:20] <Gunblade> My question is what are the other major like Free linux OS's out there...the ones I used to know are gone I only know of Ubuntu through a 4chan post, and Fedora cause thats what I found when seraching for Red Hat
[06:21] <bitfoo> i can't, my font is too small and boxy so it all looks the same.  if i dont follow the conversation in real time i go blind trying to read past comments :|
[06:21] <null> Gunblade: try mandrake pretty good
[06:21] <bitfoo> Gunblade, check www.distrowatch.com
[06:21] <mebaran151> Gunblade: Ubuntu or Debian are awesome
[06:21] <cafuego> Gunblade: Debian (what Ubuntu  is based on) is big and polular, as is Mandrake. Then there's SuSE, Slackware and a bunch of marginal and/or localised ones.
[06:21] <dr_willis> Suse is well done also..
[06:21] <mebaran151> I cant stand rpm
[06:21] <dr_willis> depends on you rneeds.
[06:21] <mebaran151> Suse is too .... German
[06:21] <mebaran151> really
[06:22] <bitfoo> suse is pretty hot :|
[06:22] <mebaran151> that is the major problem I have with it
[06:22] <Agrajag> rpm's fine, if you use it with apt
[06:22] <dr_willis> too german.. bla bla bla.. :P lol
[06:22] <mebaran151> it is as german as german can be
[06:22] <null> heh
[06:22] <mebaran151> but the Germans make fine automobiles
[06:22] <dr_willis> they are all tools.. use them if they suite your needs.. or not.
[06:22] <cafuego> Then there's G***** but I don't need no potty mouth
[06:22] <mebaran151> and they have good beer
[06:22] <bitfoo> slackware is like server <3
[06:22] <mebaran151> and their linux is brutally happy
[06:22] <Agrajag> cafuego: then I'll say it: Gentoo
[06:22] <cafuego> bitfoo: No more then ubuntu
[06:22] <mebaran151> I dont know how that should be taken
[06:22] <tritium> heh
[06:22] <Agrajag> gentoo's fine if your time is worthless
[06:22] <Gunblade> lol
[06:22] <dr_willis> Gentoo is - interesting..
[06:23] <null> hah
[06:23] <bitfoo> lawlz
[06:23] <Gunblade> Man you guys can go off thanks for the link looks like they have'em all
[06:23] <mebaran151> dr_willis: I tried Gentoo
[06:23] <cafuego> Not so much a distro as a hobby
[06:23] <bitfoo> i want to try archlinux :/
[06:23] <dr_willis> its amazeing how far all these distros have came in the last 3 yrs...
[06:23] <mebaran151> archlinux was fuck
[06:23] <mebaran151> I have to admit
[06:23] <mebaran151> it couldnt load my network card
[06:23] <mebaran151> I never could figure that out
[06:24] <Agrajag> not even by manually loading the module and ifconfig up?
[06:26] <bitfoo> i will try it :|
[06:26] <Gunblade> Well thanks all I might be back with noob linux questions...cause the last time I used linux was System V & Solaris 2.0; you all have been better than that damn fedora channel
[06:26] <bitfoo> lol :D
[06:27] <bitfoo> try the livecd
[06:27] <bitfoo> get a feel for it and you dont have to install anything
[06:27] <bitfoo> runs right off the cd :O
[06:27] <Agrajag> with all the newest shiniest gnome stuff
[06:27] <Gunblade> Well I did download teh Hoary-live-i386.ISO off of www.ausgamers.com
[06:27] <Gunblade> is that the same one?
[06:27] <Agrajag> yes
[06:28] <dr_willis> Egads Via has a mini-itx motherboard comming out thats 4.7x4.7
[06:28] <Gunblade> cool
[06:28] <Agrajag> hoary is the in-development branch of ubuntu
[06:28] <Agrajag> warty is the stable one
[06:28] <Gunblade> cya all later !
[06:28] <mebaran151> Haroy is the branch of ubuntu that doesnt work
[06:28] <mebaran151> I am on Hoary now
[06:28] <Agrajag> have fun
[06:28] <mebaran151> and heheh
[06:28] <Gunblade> lol
[06:28] <Agrajag> haha
[06:28] <bitfoo> i cant read those wierd boxes dr_willis  :|
[06:28] <tritium> mebaran151, oh, come on...it works
[06:28] <mebaran151> not on amd64
[06:28] <cafuego> dr_willis: Does it come with a special 6"x6" CPU adapter?
[06:28] <mebaran151> I had to correct 5 idioit pointer errors
[06:28] <mebaran151> in the source already
[06:28] <dr_willis> cafuego,  cpu all;readuy on it.  :P
[06:28] <cafuego> mebaran151: Which source?
[06:28] <mebaran151> and had to bypass the deb pkgs
[06:28] <bitfoo> well it is development :|
[06:29] <mebaran151> Evolution
[06:29] <dr_willis> nemiah processor
[06:29] <mebaran151> but they immediately rebroke
[06:29] <cafuego> mebaran151: Yeah, evolution is plenty broken.
[06:29] <mebaran151> yeah
[06:29] <cafuego> mebaran151: The rest is OK though.
[06:29] <dr_willis> reading at http://www.kevinrose.com/index.php/weblog/comments/191/
[06:29] <mebaran151> they immediately rebreak it after I un break it
[06:29] <dr_willis> guy stuffed one in a mac-mini case.
[06:29] <bitfoo> i wont upgrade again until intel releases cell processors
[06:29] <cafuego> mebaran151: Submit  apatch
[06:29] <bitfoo> that will be in like 3 years :/
[06:29] <mebaran151> I did
[06:29] <Dreamer3_> anyone use dual-head ubuntu?
[06:29] <steve> can anyone walk me through using VI or VIM
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[06:29] <mebaran151> VI is scary
[06:29] <mebaran151> VIM is less scary
[06:29] <steve> I am trying to update my apt-get file source
[06:29] <ficusplanet> bitfoo, Intel is never going to release cell processors.
[06:29] <crimsun> vimtutor?
[06:29] <mebaran151> use gedit
[06:30] <mebaran151> or kate
[06:30] <cafuego> steve: use 'nano'
[06:30] <mebaran151> or soemthing
[06:30] <steve> gedit okay
[06:30] <bitfoo> of course they will :|
[06:30] <Dreamer3_> bitfoo: intel is so yesterday, use amb ;-)
[06:30] <ficusplanet> bitfoo, IBM, Sony, and Toshiba are developing the Cell
[06:30] <cafuego> is intel going to release cell processors a year after AMD releases a cheaper and faster alternative?
[06:30] <mebaran151> AMD64 all the way!
[06:30] <bitfoo> yah
[06:30] <mebaran151> which means
[06:30] <mebaran151> that when you run it in 64 bit mode
[06:30] <bitfoo> they are all developing it together
[06:30] <mebaran151> nothing runs
[06:30] <bitfoo> for ps3 first
[06:31] <bitfoo> and then...
[06:31] <null> Dreamer3_: hmm neber heard of amb processors bfore :p
[06:31] <bitfoo> muahahah
[06:31] <mebaran151> you cant fix it with a rescue cd
[06:31] <mebaran151> and you are screwed
[06:31] <Dreamer3_> null: yeah, they're new *laughs*
[06:31] <mebaran151> but you get to be using the amazing 64 bit capabilities
[06:31] <null> heh
[06:31] <cafuego> mebaran151: Yep. never benched openssl that fast.
[06:31] <mebaran151> and address that 8 gb of memory I can afford
[06:31] <bitfoo> and plus with sony's recent foray into open source, they might just plain sell the cell in the future :O
[06:31] <mebaran151> after I give up dinner for the next five years
[06:31] <null> Dreamer3_: hmm with nvidia twinview ?/
[06:32] <bitfoo> especially if it kicks x86 ass all over the place :|
[06:32] <Dreamer3_> null: do the nvidia drivers + standard debian X or normal X.org support it all well?
[06:32] <berwick> hey guys, can someone help me with some basic stuff??
[06:32] <mebaran151> cell is a tad cool
[06:32] <cafuego> mebaran151: To be fair, dinner *is* overrated.
[06:32] <crimsun> Dreamer3_: yes.
[06:32] <mebaran151> cafuego: I know
[06:32] <mebaran151> but I gave it up once
[06:32] <mebaran151> and my cat got my mad
[06:33] <bitfoo> whatcha need berwick :)
[06:33] <berwick> does anyone have VNC Server running on ubuntu?
[06:33] <mebaran151> VNC
[06:33] <dr_willis> berwick,  yes.
[06:33] <mebaran151> I think I might
[06:33] <bitfoo> oop not me :O
[06:33] <dr_willis> i use tightvnc mainly
[06:33] <mebaran151> I have the VNC client
[06:33] <ficusplanet> Is anyone here participating the Web site redesign contest?
[06:33] <null> Dreamer3_: yus, i got twinview works awesome, move window between 2 montiors sweet qith 1600x1200 each works like a champ, took me a few years-: to get my xf86config rit tho :-)
[06:33] <mebaran151> on this comp
[06:33] <dr_willis> i had to edit the config file to make it start my own xstartup scriopt tio get the window manager going
[06:33] <Dreamer3_> null: oh
[06:33] <berwick> can i use a real vnc client to connect to tightvnc?
[06:34] <mebaran151> when are they going to fix gnome
[06:34] <dr_willis> berwick,  'real' ?
[06:34] <mebaran151> and evolution
[06:34] <bitfoo> ficusplanet, i can barely finish my own website let alone redesign a massive site like ubuntu :|
[06:34] <dr_willis> they are all compatiable as far as i know.
[06:34] <mebaran151> bitfoo: it isnt THAT big
[06:34] <Dreamer3_> null: if only i had another screen i'd be tempted to go back to using my other pc here at home... it was who VGA outs and if nvidia
[06:34] <mebaran151> you could always
[06:34] <mebaran151> uh
[06:34] <mebaran151> color it brown
[06:34] <ficusplanet> bitfoo, They're only asking for "look 'n' feel mockups"
[06:34] <bitfoo> ;[
[06:34] <Dreamer3_> was=has
[06:34] <bitfoo> they want brown dont they
[06:34] <bitfoo> :|
[06:34] <mebaran151> bitfoo: yeah
[06:34] <null> heh
[06:34] <mebaran151> I like the fedora colors
[06:34] <mebaran151> I hate Fedora
[06:34] <mebaran151> but like the colors
[06:34] <mebaran151> nice blue
[06:35] <bitfoo> they should go with a more dark red orangey scheme
[06:35] <berwick> haha, anyone running KDE 3.3 in here?
[06:35] <mebaran151> heheh
[06:35] <bitfoo> maybe some yellow
[06:35] <bitfoo> but no brown :O
[06:35] <mebaran151> berwick: use Gnome
[06:35] <mebaran151> it is sexier
[06:35] <mebaran151> not as useful
[06:35] <mebaran151> but one has to say it was sexier
[06:35] <null> hah true :-)
[06:35] <ficusplanet> bitfoo, The pallete includes a lot of reds and oranges.
[06:35] <mebaran151> KDE was too bloated for me
[06:35] <mebaran151> I personal like XFCE
[06:35] <mebaran151> alot
[06:35] <rempresen1> ok, i am trying to install qtfprot
[06:35] <bitfoo> yeh :/
[06:35] <rempresen1> and i have unmet dependencies
[06:36] <rempresen1> so, how do i get the proper dependencies for it
[06:36] <rempresen1> ?
[06:36] <mebaran151> enable the universe repos represen1
[06:36] <mebaran151> they should have all the libs there
[06:36] <bitfoo> i just realized how wrong i was ficusplanet lol |
[06:36] <ficusplanet> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/UbuntuArtwork/view?searchterm=artwork
[06:36] <rempresen1> wha
[06:36] <rempresen1> i did that
[06:36] <rempresen1> universe repos
[06:37] <Dreamer3_> null: what WM you using to manage that?
[06:37] <rempresen1> i did that, but i can't get the application qt_fprot for the gui for fprot
[06:37] <null> Dreamer3_: kde works great
[06:37] <null> havent tried gnome on it tho
[06:37] <mebaran151> I need a distro that will make me antisocial and take up my life and they life of my neighbors
[06:37] <mebaran151> I was considering either arch or gentoo
[06:37] <mebaran151> or maybe slackware
[06:37] <null> gentoo da one to go in dat case
[06:37] <mebaran151> yeah
[06:38] <null> or may be rocklinux ?
[06:38] <mebaran151> Linux from Scratch
[06:38] <mebaran151> too
[06:38] <mebaran151> but Linux from Scratch
[06:38] <mebaran151> once it works
[06:38] <berwick> i downloaded an RPM that told me i needed to use alien to convert it...i converted it to a debian file, but i cant install it...should i have converted it this way??
[06:38] <null> lfs
[06:38] <mebaran151> it works for ever
[06:38] <mebaran151> and then I have like wasted what .. only 5 days
[06:38] <null> hehe
[06:38] <ficusplanet> Hey, has anyone here used the recently released gtk theme engine "Clearlooks"?  It looks really nice - basically Bluecurve with rounded corners.
[06:38] <mebaran151> I may try it
[06:39] <mebaran151> I hate round corners though
[06:39] <tritium> berwick, is there no .deb available for whatever you're trying to install?
[06:39] <mebaran151> they make me think of those cookies that have bite out of them
[06:39] <bitfoo> i'm sticking with my all white theme right now :/
[06:39] <null> hehe lol mebaran151 u seem to be too enthusiastic, toomuch koffee ?
[06:39] <mebaran151> and the maggots have taken
[06:39] <berwick> no tritium
[06:39] <null> heh
[06:39] <mebaran151> null: yeah
[06:39] <mebaran151> I just finished studying for finals
[06:39] <mebaran151> have that pent up RAH
[06:39] <mebaran151> you cant be enthusiastic about math
[06:40] <tritium> mebaran151, sure you can
[06:40] <steve> Amaranth, I installed the Network Manager and nothing is happening. I did everything the site said to do
[06:40] <bitfoo> ok well here i go trying my new kernel :|
[06:40] <pepsi> !units 1/24MHz ns
[06:40] <pepsi> 40?
[06:41] <tritium> steve, from thom's repository?
[06:41] <pepsi> 41
[06:41] <steve> yeap
[06:41] <steve> nothing happened
[06:41] <pepsi> oh
[06:41] <berwick> where is that repository?
[06:41] <steve> it installed okay
[06:41] <tritium> steve, that link I sent you says to contact him with any problems with the package
[06:41] <cowbud> what is using gamin in ubuntu?
[06:41] <ficusplanet> steve, I've had trouble getting it working, too.  Have you tried netapplet?
[06:41] <steve> I am not sure
[06:41] <steve> is that a different app
[06:42] <mebaran151> tritium: not one hundred calc problems
[06:42] <mebaran151> they bottle the energy
[06:42] <mebaran151> AHHH
[06:42] <steve> where did you get if from
[06:42] <mebaran151> like that
[06:42] <steve> ficusplanet, where can I get it from
[06:42] <ficusplanet> Yes.  It does basically the same stuff but is a bit easier to get going.  I've heard that NetworkManager won't be in Ubuntu stable until hoary+1.  I just used the debian packages.
[06:42] <steve> pretty easy to install
[06:42] <steve> what about dep.
[06:43] <ficusplanet> steve, You just need the newer wireless-tools and netapplet from Debian unstable.
[06:43] <steve> I thing I have that already
[06:43] <steve> did you use apt-get
[06:45] <rempresen1> i have a .tar.bz2 how to extract that
[06:45] <ficusplanet> steve, No, I just did dpkg -i filename1 filename 2
[06:46] <bitfoo> *sigh*
[06:46] <mebaran151> where does one find this network manager
[06:46] <ficusplanet> steve, here's a screenshot: http://www.thecardinal1978.com/GNOME/Screenshot.png
[06:46] <steve> I apologize, can you write that out for me.
[06:47] <chriss_> Are there any free alternatives to WinRAR?
[06:47] <FAST> :'(      still no luck getting into the gui
[06:47] <bitfoo> hey what is that thing ficusplanet :O
[06:47] <berwick> is there an easy way to get ubuntu to access microsoft windows shared folders?  its part of a workgroup, theres no domain controller...
[06:47] <bitfoo> the network connections o_O
[06:47] <ficusplanet> bitfoo, netapplet
[06:47] <chutwig|linux> berwick: they should be accessible right from nautilus
[06:48] <bitfoo> kewl
[06:48] <bitfoo> and how do you get your windows to collapse like that :O
[06:48] <CreeVal> Was me asking about free alternatives for WinRAR...
[06:48] <steve> ficus, I apreciate it, can you tell me exactly how to get this
[06:48] <mebaran151> has anyone found an easy way to get the nforce3 onbaord ethernet to DHCP
[06:48] <ficusplanet> bitfoo, Just go to Preferences>>windows and make them Roll Up on double-click instead of maximizing.
[06:48] <mebaran151> right now I am on an old 100mbt pci card
[06:48] <ficusplanet> steve, Yeah, just a sec.
[06:48] <mebaran151> it would be so sexy if I could do away with that
[06:48] <hikaru79> What software can I use to monitor the temperature inside my case to prevent overheating?
[06:48] <steve> cool
[06:49] <kleedrac> Anyone ever have an issue with StarCraft where the logo screen comes up but the "loading" flashes once and then the music plays on but you get nowhere?
[06:49] <hikaru79> kleedrac, are you running it with Cedega?
[06:49] <kleedrac> Sure am
[06:50] <bitfoo> ficusplanet, thats in the debian repository right?
[06:50] <mebaran151> noboyd every knows about the nforce3
[06:50] <mebaran151> forcedeth might work one day
[06:50] <ficusplanet> bitfoo, Yes, and in ubuntu hoary.
[06:50] <mebaran151> in the future
[06:50] <bitfoo> hmm
[06:50] <ficusplanet> steve, just google for debian ubstable netapplet.  You need that package and wireless-tools 0.27
[06:51] <steve> cool
[06:51] <steve> thanks
[06:51] <Amaranth> tritium: Ever heard of winex? cedega == winex
[06:51] <tritium> netapplet is in universe, steve
[06:51] <tritium> Amaranth, oh...
[06:52] <kleedrac> hikaru79: Yes ... I am using cedega
[06:52] <steve> what is universe
[06:53] <crimsun> steve: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/UniversePackages/
[06:53] <ficusplanet> jdub, Just to be sure, I can turn in an entry for the Web contest tomorrow, right?
[06:53] <jdub> yes
[06:53] <ficusplanet> jdub, Thanks.
[06:53] <steve> thanks
[06:53] <ficusplanet> tritium, It's in universe for warty?
[06:53] <kleedrac> Does anyone have StarCraft working with cedega?
[06:53] <tritium> ficusplanet, oh, you're using Warty...not sure about that
[06:53] <HrdwrBoB> kleedrac: it should Just Work[tm] 
[06:54] <ficusplanet> tritium, Well, I think steve is using warty.
[06:54] <steve> yeap i am
[06:54] <tritium> jdub, what happened to beagle?
[06:54] <kleedrac> HrdwrBoB: It's "Just Work"ed for me on other distros on this very laptop ... that's why I don't understand why it's not working in Ubuntu ... Diablo II and WarCraft II work fine ... StarCraft hates me tonight :)
[06:54] <bitfoo> ;[
[06:55] <ficusplanet> Steve, I think you need to just google, then.  I'll check to make sure, though.
[06:55] <jdub> tritium: nothing
[06:56] <tritium> jdub, it was supposed to be available within the past few days
[06:56] <bitfoo> :|
[06:56] <jdub> tritium: but nothing happened :)
[06:56] <tritium> i noticed ;)
[06:57] <ficusplanet> Steve, yeah, it isn't in universe for warty as far as i can tell.
[06:57] <kleedrac> I shouldn't need to mess with pthreads or some silly such thing ...
[06:58] <faddat1> hey, I just wanna let Bob and all else who have helped me tonight know that I appreciate it and that I've got Hoary up and running nicely and I'm liking it well!
[06:59] <kayo> this OS is pretty slick, I think I'll keep it
[07:01] <faddat1> kayo: I'm not 100% on it yet
[07:01] <faddat1> I'd really like an AmaroK-alike
[07:01] <bitfoo> amarok?
[07:01] <faddat1> And then I'd be *much* happier
[07:01] <snowblink> faddat1: you can still run amarok
[07:01] <steve> I still cannot find this net applet, unfortunately
[07:01] <faddat1> http://amarok.kde.org/
[07:02] <jdub> faddat1: first option, rhythmbox; second option, amarok itself...
[07:02] <faddat1> snowblink: how?  I can just install it?
[07:02] <ficusplanet> steve, Alright, I'll grab it really quick.
[07:02] <steve> I really appreciate it
[07:02] <faddat1> I'm blown away here!
[07:02] <kayo> aplication menus could use some work but I cant really complaine about that
[07:03] <faddat1> is Amarok in universe?
[07:03] <bitfoo> i think packages.debian is down :/
[07:03] <ficusplanet> steve, np
[07:03] <snowblink> faddat1: are you on hoary or warty?
[07:03] <faddat1> snowblink: hoary
[07:03] <steve> I really like this chat network. We are all trying to get the whole linux thing down
[07:03] <snowblink> faddat1: then it should be available somewhere, because I installed it last week
[07:04] <faddat1> snowblink: would that have been just through the "synaptic package manager"?
[07:04] <snowblink> faddat1: apt-cache search amarok
[07:04] <berwick> hey, is there an easy way to upgrade from warty to horay
[07:04] <snowblink> faddat1: oh, you can use synaptic if you want
[07:04] <berwick> ?
[07:05] <hikaru79> What software can I use to monitor the temperature inside my case to prevent overheating?
[07:05] <berwick> quit overclocking
[07:05] <faddat1> snowblink: okay, after the ease of that I'm going to give a hell of a lot less crap to anyone about the KDE-GNOME divide
[07:05] <berwick> .exe
[07:06] <ficusplanet> steve, OK.  Head over to http://www.thecardinal1978.com/GNOME/debs/  Download both packages and install them with "sudo dpkg -i file1 file2"
[07:06] <steve> thanks
[07:06] <ficusplanet> steve, np
[07:06] <faddat1> Because if I can have my Amarok
[07:06] <faddat1> it's all set, but if no Amarok, no being set
[07:07] <delltony> hey whats the application for gnome that makes the little postit notes? anyone know by chance?
[07:07] <randabis-laptop> amarok is in universe
[07:07] <faddat1> yeah, I've got it installing, along with the necessary parts of KDE, right now.  I'm quite impressed.
[07:07] <ficusplanet> delltony, Right-click on your panel and choose add to panel.  The add the sticky notes applet.
[07:07] <hikaru79> berwick, I'm not overclocking
[07:07] <delltony> aww thats it
[07:07] <berwick> hey faddat1, you running kde 3.3?
[07:08] <delltony> i was trying to find it thanks
[07:08] <hikaru79> I just have a debian webserver that has been running for about a week straight
[07:08] <hikaru79> And I'm just curious as to what the risk of overheating is
[07:08] <hikaru79> It's not doing anything in the least strenous
[07:08] <hikaru79> Just serving up a small, local site
[07:08] <hikaru79> But it's been doing it constantly
[07:08] <hikaru79> Just wanted to check case temperature
[07:08] <hikaru79> Any ideas for software?
[07:08] <randabis-laptop> is the debian server all console? no UI?
[07:08] <faddat1> Running just whatever KDE got installed with Amarok right now
[07:09] <bitfoo> theres a ton of sensor stuff ive seen :|
[07:09] <faddat1> I didn't know that KDE and a gnome-focused distro could get along so well.
[07:09] <faddat1> and I've NEVER used debian or a deb based distro
[07:09] <randabis-laptop> yeah they mesh pretty well faddat
[07:09] <faddat1> so there's a hell of a lot that's new for me in Ubuntu
[07:09] <faddat1> brb
[07:09] <steve> ficus, I probably shouldnt ask this, but how should I install this. I have uncompressed the files and they have three more files, which are tarred as well
[07:10] <bitfoo> :|
[07:10] <ficusplanet> steve, you don't need to uncompress them.  You can just open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg -i" then drag each file into the terminal and press enter.
[07:10] <bitfoo> how do you see the current version of wireless tools :O
[07:11] <ficusplanet> bitfoo, You can check in synaptic.
[07:11] <randabis-laptop> synaptic can probably tell you
[07:11] <htaccess_> ubuntu/gnome handling of copy and paste is abismal, im tryinf to write a blog entry and every time i try to copy and paste it wont work even whe i use the stupid windows ctrl-c that it seems to want you to use :(
[07:12] <randabis-laptop> hmm I thought they was a clipboard applet...I'm not getting up to check though... :p
[07:12] <randabis-laptop> xfce on the laptop :p
[07:13] <htaccess_> how is one sposed to copy and paste in ubuntu? im trying to copy a url out of firefoxes url bar and paste it into a link popup in wordpress
[07:14] <bitfoo> ctrl c ?
[07:14] <eyequeue> htaccess_:  i would drag from the little favicon to the left of the url
[07:14] <dr_willis> select. middle click
[07:14] <ficusplanet> htaccess_, I've never had a problem with copy and paste.
[07:14] <randabis-laptop> select all the text of the URL, right-click, copy?
[07:14] <eyequeue> that seems to be what that little icon is for
[07:14] <dr_willis> is how X generally handles cut/pasteing :P i forget how gnome does it  - but select/middle click should work as well.
[07:14] <htaccess_> ok i havent tried the right click one, lets try that
[07:15] <bitfoo> dude ficusplanet can i pm you something :|
[07:15] <bitfoo> oh nm
[07:15] <bitfoo> :|
[07:15] <bitfoo> i guess netapplet works only for hoary :|
[07:16] <randabis-laptop> netapplet? what's that "do"
[07:16] <ficusplanet> bitfoo, If you install the new wireless-tools from debian unstable with it, it should work.
[07:17] <ficusplanet> randabis, http://www.thecardinal1978.com/GNOME/Screenshot.png
[07:17] <bitfoo> nah it needs libiw27
[07:17] <randabis-laptop> ah
[07:17] <htaccess_> dr_willis: yea ive been using linux for 4 years and slect middle click is deeply ingrained but it seems to be not work very well in ubuntu, it realy bugs me i love ubuntu but im thinking of going back to fc/kde just to get klipper
[07:18] <steve> ficus, I must be doing something wrong. I am getting all kind of errors. I type in dpkg -i /home/steve/netapplet_0.99.4-1_i386/control.tar.gz
[07:18] <steve>  and it errors out
[07:18] <bitfoo> steve you must sudo dkpg the .deb file
[07:18] <ficusplanet> steve, Drag the .deb files into the terminal.
[07:18] <bitfoo> not .tar.gz :|
[07:18] <randabis-laptop> steve sounds like you didn't get a deb file
[07:18] <eyequeue> ficusplanet:  lol, i just love "linksys"
[07:19] <steve> tell you what, I will retry the thing. I willget it to work
[07:19] <ficusplanet> eyequeue, Yeah.  That's just my neighbors offering me a nice backup system.  ;)
[07:19] <eyequeue> ficusplanet:  there's even one here, in the wifi desert that i live in (some neighbour)
[07:19] <Dreamer3> hmmmmmm
[07:20] <bitfoo> oyvey :|
[07:21] <bluefoxicy> I have a suggestion!
[07:21] <bluefoxicy> can shipit say if it's shipping hoary or warty?
[07:21] <bluefoxicy> I'd like to pre-order hoary <3
[07:21] <steve> ficus, redid it and typed dpkg --i netapplet_0.99.4-1_i.386.deb
[07:21] <steve>  and it still did not work. Am I doing this all wrong. Please help the kind of sort of newbie
[07:21] <ficusplanet> bluefoxicy, They are going to start that around the end of February I believe.
[07:21] <bluefoxicy> what's a ficus
[07:22] <bluefoxicy> everyone keeps talking about ficus
[07:22] <ficusplanet> ficusplanet, <--
[07:22] <bluefoxicy> there's a commercial about watering the ficus, and harvy birdman had X spraying a ficus
[07:22] <bluefoxicy> heh
[07:22] <Cam-> how stable is hoary at the moment?
[07:22] <eyequeue> it's a plant
[07:22] <eyequeue> Cam-:  changes daily
[07:23] <ficusplanet> steve, What error are you getting?
[07:23] <Cam-> eqequeue: last update from hoary was like, 3-4 weeks ago
[07:23] <steve> hold on I will get it
[07:23] <Cam-> so im wondering if theres any huge problems with it right now
[07:23] <Cam-> saying "no dont update!"
[07:23] <steve> dpkg: unknown option --i
[07:23] <steve> Type dpkg --help for help about installing and deinstalling packages [*] ;
[07:23] <steve> Use dselect for user-friendly package management;
[07:23] <steve> Type dpkg -Dhelp for a list of dpkg debug flag values;
[07:23] <steve> Type dpkg --force-help for a list of forcing options;
[07:23] <steve> Type dpkg-deb --help for help about manipulating *.deb files;
[07:23] <steve> Type dpkg --licence for copyright licence and lack of warranty (GNU GPL) [*] .
[07:23] <steve> Options marked [*]  produce a lot of output - pipe it through `less' or `more' !
[07:23] <ficusplanet> Cam-, I'm doing very well right now.
[07:24] <eyequeue> steve:  don't flood
[07:24] <eyequeue> steve:  it's either --install or -i
[07:24] <ficusplanet> steve, it's -i not --i.  Sorry if I mistyped that.
[07:24] <randabis-laptop> dpkg -i not --i
[07:24] <randabis-laptop> lol
[07:24] <steve> thanks
[07:24] <GammaRay> lol indeed.. lol indeed
[07:25] <GammaRay> good show...
[07:25] <ficusplanet> jdub, Have you guys considered including a tool or maybe modifying synaptic to allow for installing individual debs?  Or is that something you are generally wanting to discourage?
[07:25] <mebaran151> Hey
[07:26] <mebaran151> I got forcedeth to work
[07:26] <mebaran151> and I did it all by myself
[07:26] <mebaran151> I want a parade
[07:26] <ficusplanet> mebaran151, Congrats.
[07:26] <Cam-> ficusplanet: ta
[07:26] <randabis-laptop> it worked out of the box for me mebaran151
[07:27] <ficusplanet> Cam-, ta?
[07:28] <steve> ficus, apparently, I need libiw27 (>= 27)
[07:28] <Cam-> for the status
[07:28] <Cam-> :)
[07:28] <ficusplanet> steve, Gah.  Just a sec.
[07:28] <steve> I tried getting it through apt get it did not seem to be there though
[07:28] <steve> cool
[07:29] <mebaran151> It was a silly bios feature
[07:30] <mebaran151> that turned on something that looked wrong
[07:30] <mebaran151> all thanks to netapplet
[07:30] <mebaran151> why dont they bundle that with ubuntu standardly
[07:30] <mebaran151> it is very useful
[07:30] <ficusplanet> mebaran151, It's in hoary.
[07:30] <mebaran151> better than the really good tools that (gasp, shock of shocks and horror of horrors) MS Windows has
[07:30] <mebaran151> ficusplanet: yeah I know
[07:30] <mebaran151> that is where I dlled it from :)
[07:32] <ficusplanet> steve, OK, it's at http://www.thecardinal1978.com/GNOME/debs/
[07:32] <steve> cool I will try that
[07:32] <steve> it looks like from the other error message I received, that it somehow requires older files to run
[07:33] <steve> do you want to see the other errors
[07:33] <mebaran151> what is sit0
[07:33] <mebaran151> is that lo
[07:33] <mebaran151> when I ran Fedora
[07:33] <eyequeue> mebaran151:  no, ipv6 tunnel i believ
[07:33] <ficusplanet> steve, sure.  But pm them to me.  Don't flood this channel.
[07:34] <chutwig|linux> i think that's stf0
[07:34] <chutwig|linux> maybe
[07:34] <mebaran151> they never could help me
[07:34] <steve> cool
[07:34] <mebaran151> ah
[07:34] <mebaran151> I never knew I had an Ipv6 tunnel
[07:34] <mebaran151> Until Evolution gets fixed
[07:34] <mebaran151> can there be front ports for Hoary of it
[07:34] <mebaran151> like prior versions that still worked
[07:35] <mebaran151> similar to the backports they have for Warty
[07:35] <eyequeue> sit0      Link encap:IPv6-in-IPv4
[07:35] <mebaran151> cool
[07:35] <mebaran151> I dont need it
[07:35] <mebaran151> but it isnt doing any harm
[07:35] <mebaran151> (I am not going to break anything)
[07:36] <eyequeue> i think most of us don't, it's just forward compatibility
[07:36] <mebaran151> oh good then
[07:36] <eyequeue> i'll probably play with it some day, then go back to ignoring it
[07:36] <mebaran151> But would it be possible to serve front ports to Hoary
[07:36] <mebaran151> I really used Evolution alot
[07:36] <mebaran151> but I needed Xorg for my videocard to function correctly
[07:37] <bitfoo> evolution is on hoary though :O
[07:37] <mebaran151> Evolution on Hoary
[07:37] <mebaran151> doesnt workj
[07:37] <mebaran151> at all
[07:37] <mebaran151> I keep getting
[07:37] <bitfoo> is it a bug or broken just for you
[07:37] <mebaran151> a floating point exception
[07:37] <mebaran151> it seems like a bug
[07:37] <mebaran151> I checked the bugzilla and it was there
[07:37] <bitfoo> oh thats right you have amd64 :O
[07:37] <eyequeue> mebaran151:  have you checked bugzilla?
[07:37] <eyequeue> nm
[07:37] <mebaran151> yeah I checked it
[07:38] <eyequeue> i type slowly
[07:38] <mebaran151> but it is only a bug for AMD64
[07:38] <bitfoo> :|
[07:38] <mebaran151> they really should fix it soon I hope
[07:38] <bitfoo> fix it! ;D
[07:38] <mebaran151> I dont have enough skill
[07:38] <mebaran151> it looks pretty huge
[07:38] <eyequeue> how do i say this?
[07:38] <bitfoo> what kind of skills do you have?
[07:38] <bitfoo> numchuck skills?
[07:38] <mebaran151> basic C
[07:38] <bitfoo> bow hnting skills?
[07:38] <bitfoo> :|
[07:38] <eyequeue> thanks for being one of those willing to test things on less-prevalent platforms
[07:38] <mebaran151> heheh
[07:38] <mebaran151> yeah
[07:38] <mebaran151> I like testing
[07:39] <mebaran151> but I feel useless testing evolution
[07:39] <mebaran151> as it ... doesnt test
[07:39] <eyequeue> the ony way we can be sure ubuntu supports them well when released
[07:39] <bitfoo> did you inform ubuntu or evolution buzilla :O
[07:39] <mebaran151> both
[07:39] <bitfoo> cool :|
[07:39] <mebaran151> I gave them both a little bit of hell
[07:39] <mebaran151> with love
[07:39] <eyequeue> lol
[07:39] <mebaran151> I also had a pkg streamtuner
[07:40] <website> what's the library package to play an mp3 file?
[07:40] <mebaran151> that I really really loved
[07:40] <mebaran151> but now
[07:40] <eyequeue> hell with love, sounds like someone i dated, heh
[07:40] <mebaran151> it is dead
[07:40] <mebaran151> seg faulted
[07:40] <mebaran151> heh
[07:40] <mebaran151> they werent a bug I hope
[07:40] <mebaran151> that could be rather odd
[07:40] <mebaran151> Streamtuner refuses not segfault
[07:40] <mebaran151> but it is a universe package
[07:41] <mebaran151> I tried making from source
[07:41] <mebaran151> which worked
[07:41] <eyequeue> though it's sometimes debatable, i do try to date within my own species (a great shoot-down line btw)
[07:41] <mebaran151> but no install
[07:41] <eyequeue> what's the difference between universe and metaverse?
[07:41] <mebaran151> eyequeue: thank you
[07:41] <mebaran151> we have a metaverse
[07:41] <mebaran151> I called it multiverse
[07:42] <mebaran151> Multiverse is where stuff like mplayer goes
[07:42] <mebaran151> that is not really legal
[07:42] <mebaran151> alot of multimedia coolness
[07:42] <FAST> guh.... had to reinstall all of ubuntu
[07:42] <mebaran151> but we have a metaverse?
[07:42] <eyequeue> not-ubuntu and not-ubuntu-and-non-free then?
[07:42] <mebaran151> yeah
[07:42] <mebaran151> it is Ubuntu -- Underground
[07:42] <regeya> whee
[07:42] <FAST> anyone wanna tell me how to enable the icons (home, trash, etc) on the desktop?
[07:43] <mebaran151> the stuff that Debian finds too low class to include
[07:43] <regeya> legality depends on locality
[07:43] <mebaran151> yeah
[07:43] <regeya> most anything is illegal where I'm at
[07:43] <eyequeue> FAST:  i just saw that on the faq at ubuntuguide in the /topic today
[07:43] <mebaran151> it is the absinthe of packages
[07:43] <FAST> okie doke
[07:43] <regeya> playing a dvd I paid for on the dvd drive I bought under ubuntu is illegal, apparently
[07:43] <eyequeue> FAST:  it was near the bottom i think, but i don't recall how offhand
[07:44] <Agrajag> regeya: only if you use a program other than lindvd
[07:44] <Agrajag> which is non-Free, non-free, and sucks
[07:44] <regeya> heh
[07:44] <regeya> then yes, I break the law.
[07:45] <FAST> i found it, thanks
[07:45] <regeya> which is along the lines of what the farmers shovel out of cattle barns
[07:45] <Agrajag> oh and you can't buy it anyway
[07:45] <Agrajag> LinDVD, InterVideo's Linux software DVD player, is currently available only to manufacturers for evaluation and integration.
[07:45] <mebaran151> it is of questionable legality
[07:45] <mebaran151> in reality
[07:45] <eyequeue> what is going to happen to OOo (v1) format once OOo v2 comes out and the format changes?
[07:45] <mebaran151> you cant be prosecuted very well
[07:46] <regeya> I wonder; if I started making inquiries, could I get someone to sell me a license to the dvd player software I use?
[07:46] <ficusplanet> Agrajag, Fluendo is planning on making proprietary formats and codecs available for gstreamer soon, as well.
[07:46] <Agrajag> Fluendo?
[07:46] <mebaran151> well OO uses a pretty cool XML format
[07:46] <regeya> I doubt a sane judge would spend more than 10 seconds on that
[07:46] <kleedrac> Anyone know why Starcraft would start to load but the "Loading" stops flashing, the music continues, and nothing happens?
[07:46] <mebaran151> Starcraft is too old for me to still have around
[07:46] <Agrajag> hmm, will it be free though?
[07:46] <eyequeue> mebaran151:  http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20050130002908154
[07:46] <regeya> holy poop on a platter, the hype about ruby on rails isn't hype.
[07:47] <eyequeue> mebaran151:  they plan on changing the format
[07:47] <regeya> I had a korean roommate who'd play starcraft for 24 hours a day
[07:47] <regeya> I laughed my ass off when I saw some, erm, racially-insensitive thing about 'why asians don't get dates'
[07:47] <kleedrac> I haven't played in a while (since I switched to Ubuntu 3 months ago or so) but it used to work fine under other distros.
[07:47] <regeya> blaming it on starcraft 'OMG ZERG RUSH%@$^%!'
[07:48] <mebaran151> eyequeue: that is too bad
[07:48] <kleedrac> And I know cedega works as Diablo II and WarCraft II work fine (with the exception of no IPX :) )
[07:48] <mebaran151> I like the xmlly coolness of openoffice
[07:48] <mebaran151> it was neat and organized
[07:48] <eyequeue> mebaran151:  btw, i did that url from ff using the right-click method, never tried it before :)
[07:48] <eyequeue> ff -> xchat
[07:49] <eyequeue> i'm still rather new to guis though
[07:50] <zenrox> eyequeue,  glad you decided to join the chalange
[07:51] <eyequeue> yeah, i'm still missing irssi/screen, but i'm going to stick this out long enough for a fair period
[07:51] <zenrox> you can still get a termnal buy doing alt+crtl+f1-6  and f7 for gui
[07:52] <eyequeue> yeah, i do cheat on occasion :)
[07:52] <zenrox> lol
[07:53] <eyequeue> how do i change the date in the top right corner from mon 31 jan to mon jan 31?
[07:53] <mebaran151> eyequeue: sexy url pasting
[07:55] <mebaran151> it is one of those local things
[07:56] <mebaran151> I forgot which
[07:56] <mebaran151> locale I mean
[07:56] <mebaran151> I remember seeing it same place you choose how do delimit your decimals
[07:57] <Drel> So, I boot the new Ubuntu LiveCd on my dell laptop, with GeForce 2 Go chipset, X fails to start.  Looking through the logs, it appears to detect the chipset fine, but can't find any valid videomodes (despite my choosing a valid resolution, 1024x768).  What could be the problem?
[08:00] <kleedrac> How do I change my color depth?
[08:01] <eyequeue> kleedrac:  in x? i'd run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86'
[08:01] <eyequeue> kleedrac:  that's for warty
[08:02] <eyequeue> kleedrac:  stick with the defaults for any questions other than the one you want to change
[08:02] <kleedrac> Wow ... I was hoping there was a dialogue box somewhere
[08:02] <kleedrac> nuts to that
[08:03] <eyequeue> kleedrac:  someone else may chime in with a qui means to do it, but i don't know gui things
[08:03] <eyequeue> s/qui/gui/
[08:04] <snowblink> has anyone used checkinstall with ubuntu?
[08:04] <mebaran151> kleedrac: yu could always nano it
[08:04] <kleedrac> OK ... well there's a little dialogue for resolution but none for color depth and someone online said that might help with StarCraft
[08:04] <mebaran151> what is checkinstall
[08:04] <snowblink> checkinstall - used to create packages when you're building from source
[08:04] <mebaran151> oh
[08:04] <snowblink> I've used it on RPM systems, but never a deb based
[08:05] <mebaran151> when I build from source
[08:05] <mebaran151> I just do it
[08:05] <mebaran151> no looking back
[08:05] <snowblink> this way, your package manager knows about it
[08:05] <mebaran151> yeah
[08:05] <mebaran151> I might try that
[08:05] <mebaran151> never used it
[08:05] <mebaran151> I hate soing around the pkg manager
[08:05] <mebaran151> Dreamer3: just dll the iso
[08:06] <mebaran151> and Debian sarge is too tame
[08:06] <Dreamer3> mebaran151: dial-up, can't wait
[08:06] <kleedrac> Screw this for tonight anyhow ... dangit all ... first thing I *don't* like about ubuntu
[08:06] <kleedrac> night all
[08:06] <mebaran151> Debian unstable
[08:06] <mebaran151> is not so bad
[08:06] <mebaran151> as the name says
[08:06] <mebaran151> it is actually more stable on my hardware then sarge
[08:06] <snowblink> Dreamer3: If you can get hold of Linux Format, the latest ubuntu is on the front cover
[08:06] <mebaran151> because bug commits do get there
[08:06] <eyequeue> mebaran151:  oh, it looks like OpenDocument will be XML-based too
[08:06] <mebaran151> eyequeue: XML is the future
[08:07] <mebaran151> I read the doc
[08:07] <mebaran151> yeah
[08:07] <Dreamer3> snowblink: i alreayd paid $2 for ubuntu from ebay... just waiting for it
[08:07] <mebaran151> OO 2 will open OO 1 files though
[08:07] <eyequeue> unstable means "changing" as opposed to stable==static
[08:07] <mebaran151> so that is all that matters
[08:07] <mebaran151> but Unstable Ubuntu
[08:07] <mebaran151> really is
[08:07] <mebaran151> on the verge of a dependency explosion
[08:07] <Dreamer3> playing with OO2, are we? is it fasteR?
[08:07] <eyequeue> unstable debian has been known to lock users out of their systems:)
[08:07] <mebaran151> eyequeue: hasnt happened to me yet
[08:08] <eyequeue> perl had a showstopper bug, as did bash, a few years back
[08:08] <mebaran151> I have used it for years
[08:08] <mebaran151> oh
[08:08] <Dreamer3> eyequeue: perhaps but less so than other "unstables" ;-)
[08:08] <mebaran151> I started with Linux about a year
[08:08] <mebaran151> when I began to do some programming
[08:08] <mebaran151> and MS Visual Studio or whatever it is
[08:08] <eyequeue> anything that changes daily *can* be dangerous
[08:08] <mebaran151> asked me to give up food and clothing
[08:08] <mebaran151> for the next couple of years
[08:08] <ALTF4osu> anyone install ndiswrapper successfully?
[08:09] <snowblink> ALTF4osu: yes
[08:09] <mebaran151> can you distcc between a 64 bit system and 32 bit system
[08:09] <eyequeue> well, you need food and clothing, it's shelter that's optional, you can live in your car with a laptop ;)
[08:09] <mebaran151> a laptop running Visual Studio
[08:10] <mebaran151> so I went to Linux
[08:10] <eyequeue> just park in front of a house with an unsecured wifi ap ;)
[08:10] <mebaran151> hehe
[08:10] <mebaran151> yeah
[08:10] <mebaran151> what more do I need
[08:10] <ALTF4osu> i tried the tar zxvf ndis....gz
[08:10] <mebaran151> I need to get acpi working
[08:10] <ALTF4osu> that worked
[08:10] <ALTF4osu> but then when i try to do make, it says can't find the kernel
[08:10] <ALTF4osu> :(
[08:10] <Dreamer3> ah
[08:10] <Dreamer3> thanks for reminding me
[08:11] <Dreamer3> been wanting to try and switch to acpi on my thinkpad t22
[08:11] <snowblink> ALTF4osu: any reason you don't just apt-get it?
[08:11] <mebaran151> why doesnt someone make a pkg of the winamp presets
[08:12] <mebaran151> they are really useful
[08:12] <mebaran151> and are free
[08:12] <mebaran151> I just dlled them
[08:12] <ALTF4osu> well... as it's for the wireless card that ubuntu doesn't have drivers for...
[08:12] <ALTF4osu> and i'm not connected to the net in ubuntu
[08:12] <mebaran151> heheh ALTF4osu
[08:12] <mebaran151> it is the catch 22
[08:12] <snowblink> ALTF4osu: yup the old ndis catch 22
[08:13] <snowblink> ALTF4osu: download the deb
[08:13] <snowblink> ALTF4osu: then dpkg it
[08:13] <mebaran151> like in my brief sojourn in Win64
[08:13] <mebaran151> which was really very very unusuable
[08:13] <snowblink> ALTF4osu: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/n/ndiswrapper/
[08:13] <mebaran151> to get the drivers to use my network
[08:13] <mebaran151> I need to run windows update
[08:13] <mebaran151> and MS doesnt just have to a repo
[08:14] <mebaran151> so I had to try to force them to dll to another comp
[08:14] <mebaran151> which ended up breaking it
[08:14] <snowblink> ALTF4osu: so your box lacks a wired NIC?
[08:14] <ALTF4osu> no, just haven't hooked it up wired yet
[08:14] <snowblink> ALTF4osu: would recommend sorting that out first
[08:14] <mebaran151> ALTF4osu: best bet is to wire it for like a couple minutes
[08:15] <mebaran151> even to the connection the computer you are using is using
[08:15] <eyequeue> this reminds me, i need to know exactly *what* i need to sneakernet to an ubuntu install i did that only has a linksys pci nic
[08:15] <ALTF4osu> if i can ever get the cable away from my bf
[08:15] <eyequeue> there's no wired nic, there's no modem
[08:15] <mebaran151> sneakernic?
[08:16] <GammaRay> sneakernet
[08:16] <eyequeue> sneakernet, a term for using your feet rather than wires to move files
[08:16] <mebaran151> sneakernet
[08:16] <mebaran151> sorry
[08:16] <mebaran151> tired
[08:16] <GammaRay> walking :-P
[08:16] <eyequeue> back from bbs days
[08:16] <mebaran151> OHHH
[08:16] <mebaran151> heheh
[08:16] <eyequeue> yes i'm old
[08:16] <mebaran151> little young for the old BBS
[08:16] <ALTF4osu> what's bbs?
[08:16] <mebaran151> I think I used one once
[08:16] <mebaran151> BBS
[08:16] <ALTF4osu> :-D
[08:17] <mebaran151> is like big bulletin service or soemthing
[08:17] <Agrajag> bulletin board system
[08:17] <eyequeue> got it in one
[08:17] <eyequeue> "or something"
[08:17] <eyequeue> <-- former sysop
[08:17] <mebaran151> eyequeue: ?
[08:18] <ALTF4osu> hrm..... that link only has ndiswrapper .10 and .12
[08:18] <eyequeue> anyway, what debs are needed on this box, for it to sense to linksys pci (54g) card?
[08:18] <ALTF4osu> the sf.net site has 1.0 up now
[08:18] <snowblink> ALTF4osu: that got released a few days ago
[08:19] <snowblink> ALTF4osu: what card do you have?
[08:19] <eyequeue> wmp54g version 4
[08:19] <eyequeue> i'll need to burn them to a cd to install them
[08:19] <ALTF4osu> it's a broadcom 54g wireless internal card in an emachines m6805
[08:19] <snowblink> ALTF4osu: 0.10 should do most cards (you can always upgrade if you want, once it's working) ;)
[08:20] <ALTF4osu> hmmmmmm
[08:20] <ALTF4osu> that's an idea
[08:20] <ALTF4osu> :-p
[08:20] <snowblink> ALTF4osu: although, once stuff works I generally leave it alone until it breaks
[08:21] <ALTF4osu> so stupid newb question, what do i do with the .deb?
[08:21] <snowblink> ALTF4osu: dpkg -i ndis...deb
[08:22] <snowblink> ALTF4osu: oh, don't forget to sudo that command
[08:22] <darmou> I cant' get a console in ubuntu for ppc the screen goes blank and my monitor goes fubar.  I starts up on the console but as soon as gdm starts i'ts game over red rover for my console access
[08:24] <cryptomatt> am having problems with the x.org installation
[08:24] <darmou> cryptomatt xorgconfig from the console
[08:25] <cryptomatt> oh ok
[08:25] <cryptomatt> trying
[08:27] <ALTF4osu> ?
[08:27] <eyequeue> ALTF4osu:  'sudo dpkg -i ndiswrap*.deb'
[08:28] <ALTF4osu> thanks
[08:28] <eyequeue> np
[08:29] <ficusplanet> Dreamer3, Try it out - download the live cd.
[08:30] <Dreamer3> ficusplanet: i have, but seems really slow...:)
[08:30] <Dreamer3> i don't think i'm much ofa  run from CD kinda guy
[08:36] <cryptomatt> it says failed to open file name for writing
[08:36] <cryptomatt> this happens during xorgconfig
[08:36] <maximaus> I just installed Gnomebaker via the Mandrake rpm & Alien, Audio CD burning, ISO creation, etc. all work perfectly for anybody interested. :D
[08:38] <rob_m>  gnomebaker?
[08:39] <maximaus> sime, it's looking to be quite a nice app.
[08:40] <maximaus> http://gnomebaker.sourceforge.net/
[08:40] <maximaus> I got the rpm from rpm.pbone.net
[08:40] <zenrox> ya its going to be good when thay get firther alone in devel
[08:40] <zenrox> along
[08:42] <mebaran151> because I need evolution
[08:42] <rob_m> the website has nothing
[08:42] <mebaran151> is it possible for me to just manual dll it
[08:42] <mebaran151> with like wget
[08:43] <mebaran151> and dpkg -i it
[08:43] <FAST> one of my 128MB dimms just fried..... yay :(
[08:43] <mebaran151> all of the associated stuffs
[08:43] <balc> i cant get firestarter to startup automatically on boot...
[08:43] <maximaus> rob_m, the website is empty right now, but I highly recommend installing the Mandrake rpm with Alien and having a poke at it.
[08:45] <balc> does anyone here have firestarter firewall successfully installed?
[08:45] <rob_m> where is the alien homepage i need to learn to use it
[08:46] <ficusplanet> balc, Have you installed any server software?  Because the default ubuntu setup does not need a firewall.
[08:46] <rob_m> oh never mind
[08:46] <balc> it doesnt?
[08:47] <eyequeue> if a port is not open, it isn't vulnerable :)
[08:47] <ficusplanet> balc, No.  There are no open ports.
[08:47] <balc> yeah, but not being stealthed is bad too, isnt it?
[08:47] <eyequeue> balc:  nope
[08:48] <eyequeue> balc:  you've been reading fud, i suspect :)
[08:49] <balc> maybe, i just moved from windows, where its justified
[08:49] <eyequeue> i can determine your ip address by seeing you on irc, but knowing you exist does not mean you are at risk from me
[08:51] <rob_m> hey do you think that this rpm will work on my x86_64?
[08:51] <eyequeue> balc:  btw, the /topic mentions ubuntuguide, and i followed the instructions there today for firestarter, with success, if you're interested
[08:52] <mebaran151> rob_m: nope
[08:52] <mebaran151> I have AMD64
[08:52] <mebaran151> unless it is a no arch rpm
[08:52] <mebaran151> normally they have nasty things
[08:52] <balc> thanks eye
[08:52] <eyequeue> np
[08:52] <balc> and ficus
[08:52] <ficusplanet> np
[08:53] <dougsk> rob_m:  $alien -d foo.rpm
[08:54] <rob_m> bummer thanks mebrane151, better just get back to studying then
[08:54] <balc> whether i need the firewall or not, i followed those instructions and it still doesnt run on startup, i have to manually start the program
[08:55] <balc> k20firestarter is in the rcfoo.d
[08:55] <mebaran151> what would be a good way to set up an ftp server in Linux
[08:55] <eyequeue> balc:  i guess you could create a startup means for it, by following what it says in 'man update.rc-d' if you really want to
[08:56] <|ALLANON|> salve
[08:56] <mebaran151> balc: you could always
[08:56] <mebaran151> if you dont care if the first couple secs of your gnome session are open
[08:56] <mebaran151> just add it
[08:56] <mebaran151> to the start up there
[08:58] <eyequeue> balc:  i believe "S20" is after networking is set up
[08:58] <faddat> okay
[08:58] <xoxoxo> hello
[08:58] <sirukin> hmm
[08:58] <sirukin> hey hey
[08:58] <faddat> I guess I'll just have to go and ask here, sorry.  Bud would anyone know how I'd get skype to get a-movin?
[08:59] <xoxoxo> i want to install g++, but dont know which packages is approriate. any body please help me?
[08:59] <HrdwrBoB> xoxoxo: build-essential
[08:59] <eyequeue> faddat:  see the guide in the /topic
[08:59] <HrdwrBoB> installs common necessary build utilities
[08:59] <faddat> gotcha
[08:59] <randabis-laptop> but not the development libraries for those utilities
[08:59] <eyequeue> faddat:  i did it earlier today
[09:00] <sirukin> automake + libtool + anjuta + autoconf + cvs are decent as well
[09:00] <sirukin> hmm
[09:00] <sirukin> http://tmsnc.sf.net
[09:00] <sirukin> tmsnc requests libCrypto
[09:01] <xoxoxo> HrdwrBoB: that helps indeed. thanks you a lot :)
[09:01] <sirukin> I've apt-get'd libCrypto++ and the dev deb as well
[09:01] <sirukin> it still won't compile
[09:02] <xoxoxo> so in general, if i need a tool (and know its name), how can i know which package provides it?
[09:02] <sirukin> apt-cache search name
[09:02] <eyequeue> xoxoxo:  search for te name in synpatic, i'd say
[09:03] <xoxoxo> eyequeue: is there a easier way? cause i dislike GUI
[09:03] <eyequeue> xoxoxo:  me too, heh
[09:03] <eyequeue> xoxoxo:  apt-cache search foo, is what i almost typed :)
[09:04] <eyequeue> but i gave cli advice to someone earlier and he said forget it :/
[09:04] <sirukin> heh
[09:04] <xoxoxo> hmm... is that a good way? for example, "apt-cache searchg++" returns way too many results ??
[09:04] <mebaran151> anyone wnat to help me set up an ftp server
[09:04] <xoxoxo> i meant apt-cache search g++
[09:04] <mebaran151> I will give you a cookie
[09:05] <eyequeue> apt-cache search foo | less
[09:05] <mebaran151> I want to also secure
[09:05] <xoxoxo> eyequeue: i guess that is still too rude. it must be easier and more accurate
[09:05] <mebaran151> I make it only possible for non-anonymous fellows to login
[09:06] <trey3> mebaran151: what ftp server are you using?
[09:06] <eyequeue> xoxoxo:  i guess the answer would be a more-specific search term, that's the only means i know at least, i've piped to less for a couple of years
[09:07] <mebaran151> I dont know yet
[09:07] <mebaran151> looks like vsftpd looks good
[09:07] <mebaran151> also proftpd
[09:08] <mebaran151> both look pretty sufficient
[09:08] <mebaran151> I want it to serve only one partition
[09:08] <balc> wooowow hoary has bee pretty stable so far
[09:09] <trey3> mebaran151: vsftpd is very easy to do what you want... just search the config file (/etc/vsftpd.conf I think) for the option...
[09:10] <trey3> mebaran151: something like 'allow_anonymous =' ... pretty simple  ;)
[09:10] <srid> I am getting compilation error for a SDL application.  I am using X.org (not XFree86). I have pasted the error details here http://rafb.net/paste/results/KHDJPX93.html .  What might be the issue here?
[09:11] <mebaran151> trey: can I restrict access to one folder
[09:11] <mebaran151> ?
[09:11] <trey3> srid: have you 'apt-get build-dep pkg' ?
[09:11] <trey3> mebaran151: not sure... never tried that  :(
[09:11] <srid> trey3, i installed .deb (not source)
[09:11] <mebaran151> I dont want anyone pawing through my filesystem
[09:12] <mebaran151> I am willing to give its own partition
[09:12] <trey3> srid: that doesn't answer my question...
[09:12] <srid> trey3, i am compiling _that_ sdl app through the give makefile (make)
[09:13] <trey3> srid: bah... you need to install the packages that it build depends... hence apt-get build-dep...
[09:14] <srid> trey3, i installed it
[09:14] <trey3> srid: obviously not...
[09:14] <srid> trey3, what do you think that package may be apart from libsdl?
[09:14] <srid> undefined reference to `XF86VidModeGetModeLine'
[09:14] <srid> which package is needed for this?
[09:14] <eyequeue> typically, a -dev package
[09:14] <daniels> srid: libxxf86vm-dev and -lXxf86vm
[09:15] <srid> daniels, i am using X.org btw
[09:17] <trey3> srid: my mistake... I thought what daniels said _was_ a listed build depend...
[09:17] <srid> daniels, still the same linker error
[09:17] <trey3> srid: what daniels said is basically a compatibility package for xfree for people using xorg...
[09:17] <srid> oh
[09:17] <srid> so which package needs to be installed?
[09:17] <srid> daniels suggestion didn't work
[09:18] <trey3> srid: that should have done it...
[09:18] <srid> it doesn't
[09:18] <srid> still getting the same linker error
[09:25] <xukun> is there somebody here who is familiar with cisco's ccna? maybe passed the exam already?
[09:33] <faddat> haha I have good old dvorak back!
[09:33] <faddat> okay, so now I have my nth million question of the night, but I've searched archives, and not won
[09:33] <faddat> so I should be cool for asking
[09:33] <faddat> anyone got any clues on musepack?
[09:34] <daniels> srid: if you install libxxf86vm-dev, you also need to link with -lXxf86vm
[09:34] <syn-ack> daniels: How goes it?
[09:34] <daniels> good thanks
[09:35] <faddat> actually, particurlarly musepack with Gstreamer
[09:37] <syn-ack> daniels: I have a question for you if you dont mind. Is there a way that I can keep the pass in Gnomekeyring for a Samba session always active, instead of only for that session?
[09:38] <daniels> syn-ack: probably not, but I don't use gnome-keyring
[09:38] <srid> daniels, will try
[09:38] <syn-ack> hrm
[09:39] <srid> daniels, wow!
[09:39] <syn-ack> I do have to say that Im rather impressed with Gnome 2.9 thus far.
[09:39] <syn-ack> Anyhoo, Im going to bed.
[09:40] <syn-ack> gnight.
[09:41] <faddat> not much, huh?  That's alright, I'm not getting much love out on Google for it either, I'll leave it alone for the night, it's doing well enough.
[09:41] <faddat> So, anyone got anything that I can do with Ubuntu that I can't with Mandrake that'll blow my socks off?
[09:41] <faddat> because I've gone all insomniac and so why not?
[09:41] <faddat> (waste the night fucking with a new OS)
[09:45] <cafuego> faddat: apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:45] <cafuego> faddat: Until that does anything useful, try frozen-bubble.
[09:47] <bombrill> hi all, someone for a problem on playing mp3 ?
[09:51] <ciocanel> Hello, what's the easiest way to upgrade to gnome 2.9?
[09:55] <ciocanel> Orcrist: what's the problem?
[09:55] <principerobot> Ciao
[09:56] <principerobot> Do you know how can I syncronize my ipaq 2210 with my penguin?
[09:56] <Orcrist> hello ciocanel
[09:56] <principerobot> hi
[09:56] <Orcrist> problem?
[09:56] <principerobot> yes
[09:57] <Orcrist> lol principe, ciocanel asked me what the problem was
[09:57] <principerobot> Do you know how can I syncronize my ipaq 2210 with my penguin?
[09:57] <ciocanel> Orcrist: Sorry, I think I missunderstand you.
[09:57] <hikaru79> I've just installed webmin -- what is the URL to access it?
[09:57] <Orcrist> well i ahven't said anything yet ciocanel :)
[09:57] <Ng> principerobot: you need something called synce, but I'm not sure if it is easily available for warty
[09:58] <bombrill> arg ! I can't stand it, I just can't play any music, but ubuntu sounds are ok... any idea ?
[09:59] <principerobot> I tried, and I found it for ubuntu, but I don't know how can I download it...
[09:59] <Ng> bombrill: as in can't play mp3s?
[09:59] <principerobot> Because is in a "pool" directory
[10:00] <Ng> principerobot: that sounds like they're in an apt source
[10:00] <Orcrist> bombrill... have you run alsamixer to see what devices are turned on/up?
[10:00] <principerobot> What I have to doing?
[10:00] <bombrill> yeah.. ubuntu I can hear Ubuntu sounds.. so I guess my sound card is ok
[10:00] <bombrill> but I can't play any mp3 nor cds..
[10:00] <Orcrist> when I first installed, alsa had all my sounds turned down
[10:01] <Ng> principerobot: hmm, looking at it there are parts of synce in warty, but not the multisync plugin. I'm not sure the best way to go about it, try googling for ubuntu and synce or multisync maybe ?
[10:01] <Orcrist> I had to manually adjust volumes from them all
[10:01] <principerobot> I done it
[10:01] <Orcrist> also, are you using a program that uses oss sound? they tend to grab your entire sound device for themselves
[10:01] <principerobot> this is the link
[10:01] <principerobot> http://www.artfiles.org/ubuntu.com/archive/pool
[10:02] <bombrill> Orcrist: but would it be possible that the sound card is not properly installed and that i still can hear Ubuntu music ?
[10:03] <hikaru79> OK, I just installed Webmin but when I try to connect to it locally (within the same LAN) it's telling me that access is blocked...
[10:03] <principerobot> but when I give this to my synaptic, it go for default in dist
[10:03] <hikaru79> Error - Access denied for 192.168.1.9
[10:03] <principerobot> this is the full link http://www.artfiles.org/ubuntu.com/archive/pool/universe/s/
[10:05] <principerobot> There is someone that can help me?
[10:05] <principerobot> :-(
[10:05] <bombrill> I guess the problem is not a sound card problem, when I click on a mp3, nothing happens ! it's not that the mp3 is playing and that I can't hear anything... nothing is happening at all..
[10:14] <Cam> argh stuffed up the update
[10:15] <Cam> Errors were encountered while processing: cupsys
[10:17] <Examancer> i used the package manager to install samba, and I can browse with smbclient, but how do I go about mounting a shared windows volume?
[10:18] <Cam> under gnome?
[10:19] <Cam> you can go connect to network share
[10:19] <Examancer> yes
[10:19] <Cam> in one of the menus
[10:19] <Cam> there should be windows share there
[10:20] <Examancer> i can see the computers, but I can't browse any of them
[10:20] <Examancer> i can however with smbclient
[10:20] <Examancer> but i can't mount with that
[10:21] <Cam> you can see them through "Network Servers"
[10:21] <Cam> ?
[10:22] <Examancer> whats that?
[10:22] <Cam> under gnome
[10:22] <Cam> one of the menu's, i cant remember which one because im using hoary not warty
[10:22] <Cam> but
[10:23] <Cam> there should be "Network Servers" or something like that, go into that and you should be able to browse your network for windows shares
[10:23] <Ng> Computer menu -> Network
[10:25] <Examancer> tried that and that didn't work, but for some reason i went into browse mode in nautilus and typed smb://machinename/ and it worked
[10:25] <Examancer> weird
[10:25] <Examancer> but double clicking on the machine names in the network window didn't work and still doesn't
[10:26] <pybe-lappy> Examancer: try smb://machine/share
[10:26] <Cam> guys having some problems with display on my LCD
[10:26] <pybe-lappy> Examancer: i think its to do with not having rights to browse IPC$
[10:26] <Cam> it appears that text looks blurred and is highlighted with fluro colours
[10:26] <Cam> its weird
[10:27] <Examancer> that kinda makes sense pybe-lappy
[10:27] <Golgotha> hi
[10:27] <pybe-lappy> Examancer: if i type the share it asks me for a passwd but not just the machine
[10:27] <Examancer> ok, so now i can access my windows shared files, but how do i go about mounting it?
[10:27] <pybe-lappy> Examancer: must be able to set a default passwd somewhere
[10:28] <Golgotha> howdy... got a Question for you guys and gals...
[10:29] <Golgotha> just booted off the live CD (warthog), but when I click an app it does not run...
[10:29] <Sav> When i close my lid on my laptop ubuntu freezes, anyone know what to do?
[10:30] <pybe-lappy> Sav: dont close the lid
[10:30] <Golgotha> hehehehe
[10:30] <Sav> pybe-lappy, well thnx =)
[10:31] <Examancer> is it a dell sav?
[10:31] <Sav> yep
[10:31] <Sav> D800
[10:31] <pybe-lappy> Sav: its to do with suspend support in linux being below crap
[10:31] <Examancer> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/howto/dellat
[10:31] <Examancer> a fix has been released apparently
[10:32] <Examancer> just happened to notice that when i was trying to figure out how to mount this windows share
[10:32] <Sav> thnx
[10:32] <eyequeue> Sav:  press alt-ctrl-f7
[10:33] <eyequeue> Sav:  then you tell the screen saver your psasword
[10:33] <Cam> anyone know anything about fluro colours on text with a LCD
[10:33] <Cam> it appears fluro
[10:33] <Cam> the displays weird
[10:34] <eyequeue> i do wish i could suspend my laptop
[10:34] <Cam> first guess would be something is wrong with acpi
[10:34] <Cam> eg: your laptop may not be fully supported yet out of the box
[10:35] <Cam> but dont threat because there's probably something you can do about it ;-)
[10:36] <eyequeue> first i need to get sound working
[10:40] <Golgotha> just booted off the live CD (warthog), but when I click an app it does not run... can anyone help???
[10:42] <Goofyy> ne1 here with real live knowledge?
[10:43] <gen> Clearly not you
[10:43] <Sav> Examancer, works fine now, thnx
[10:43] <Goofyy> why thank you, gen. I'm sure you're a shinning example of the Ubuntu community.
[10:44] <scizzo_> Goofyy: real live knowledge?
[10:44] <Ng> Goofyy: if you have a question it's best to just ask it, although, what with it being the middle of the night in the USA right now, replies may be a little thin on the ground
[10:44] <mizz_you> hei duh!!!
[10:45] <mpool> i have knowledge on a plaque in my room
[10:45] <Goofyy> I didn't know it was a USian thing
[10:45] <mpool> live knowledge makes a mess
[10:45] <Goofyy> (thought to the contrary, in fact)
[10:45] <scizzo_> Ng: not everyone is from the US
[10:45] <mizz_you> dette var en rar irc..
[10:45] <Ng> duh
[10:45] <Ng> of course
[10:45] <Ng> but the majority if people *here* tend to be in the US
[10:46] <scizzo_> mizz_you: norway?
[10:46] <Ng> come back 5 hours ago and there would be way way more people talking than now
[10:46] <Ng> QED
[10:46] <mpool> did you actually have a qn, or were you just trolling?
[10:46] <Goofyy> mpool: perhaps that is the real reason books have covers :-))
[10:46] <cryptomatt> i just upgraded the x.org packages in hoary and my xserver is not acting up
[10:46] <Examancer> totem sucks
[10:46] <Examancer> why did they pick totem
[10:46] <scizzo_> Examancer: totem rocks!
[10:46] <cryptomatt> doesnt recognize my 1024x768 entries.. goes to 800x600 with a weird frequency setting
[10:47] <cryptomatt> how do i fix it
[10:47] <Examancer> well... it sure wasn't playing my mpeg's out of the box
[10:47] <Ng> Examancer: totem-xine generally works better
[10:47] <Goofyy> the question sb a simple one, just wondering if ubuntu is yet supporting ntfs formated drives.
[10:47] <Examancer> installing VLC played them for me
[10:47] <Ng> Goofyy: yes, at least for reading them
[10:47] <Ng> not sure if writing to ntfs is stable yet, I don't use it
[10:47] <scizzo> Examancer: did you only try totem-gstreamer or did you try totem-xine?
[10:48] <mpool> Goofyy: read-only at the moment
[10:48] <Examancer> scizzo: I only tried the totem that came up when i double clicked on an mpeg
[10:48] <scizzo> Examancer: everything has to do with licenses and so on also
[10:48] <mpool> though you can make your own kernel w r/w
[10:48] <scizzo> Examancer: try totem-xine
[10:48] <Goofyy> mpool: my sarcasm about live knowledge due to such a huge crowd yet no one was typing. I haven't been around irc much in a long time
[10:49] <mpool> in big channels, people tend to hang out to answer questions
[10:49] <mpool> you couldn't hear anything if 336 were all talking at once
[10:49] <bob2> that's why it's best to just come in and ask your question
[10:49] <mpool> you want conversation, try #hottub
[10:50] <mpool> or whatever
[10:50] <mpool> hi bob2
[10:50] <bob2> instead of wasting time with "does anyone know anything about $foo?"-style questions
[10:50] <mpool> which does sound kind of wierd
[10:50] <Goofyy> good point. Not used to non-social channels
[10:50] <mpool> like speaking into a silent room
[10:50] <mpool> but it works
[10:50] <scizzo> time to get the first coffee of the working day
[10:51] <bob2> hey mpool
[10:51] <edon> anyway, I can switch from sid to ubuntu?
[10:51] <edon> without reinstalling
[10:51] <Ng> maybe
[10:52] <Ng> it's not a supported install method, but you can slap the apt sources in and install ubuntu-base and ubuntu-desktop
[10:52] <Ng> it might work :)
[10:52] <edon> anyone tried it?
[10:52] <Goofyy> is it easy enough to add a 2nd Linux installation on a machine with win98 and Mandrake?
[10:53] <mpool> edon: i did that
[10:53] <mpool> it worked OK
[10:53] <mpool> but you need to be moderately experienced with debian
[10:53] <mpool> or patient :-)
[10:53] <mpool> you shouldn't lose any data, but it may take a while to get it going again
[10:53] <edon> mpool, alright ;)
[10:54] <edon> mpool, what are the sources list I should add?
[10:54] <bob2> Goofyy: if you have a spare partition, yes
[10:54] <mpool> basically you need to uninstall all but the absolutely core packages
[10:54] <mpool> do this in single-user text mode obviosly
[10:54] <mpool> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ warty main restricted
[10:54] <Goofyy> bob: I got plenty room to add additional partitions. But I assume instalations cans hare swap and home. Is that correct?
[10:54] <mpool> yes
[10:55] <edon> mpool, so I should remove everything I installed from debian repositories?
[10:55] <mpool> mm
[10:55] <mpool> not quite everything
[10:55] <mpool> first of all, just add that line, apt-get update, then apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[10:56] <edon> alright
[10:56] <mpool> you may need to remove some packages to make everything work
[10:56] <mpool> just keep wiggling it until eveyrhting gets installed :)
[10:56] <edon> ah I see
[10:56] <bob2> Goofyy: "cans hare"?
[10:57] <bob2> oh, can share
[10:57] <bob2> yes
[10:57] <Goofyy> thanks bob
[10:57] <Examancer> can anyone tell me how to get TV-Out working on my nVidia GeForce2?
[10:58] <Golgotha> at the risk of repeating myself
[10:58] <Bigglez> Hi - can anyone tell me how I can switch users in Ubuntu? Not log-out, but switch
[10:58] <Golgotha> just booted off the live CD (warthog), but when I click an app it does not run... can anyone help???
[10:59] <mpool> Golgotha: wierd
[10:59] <mpool> nothing works?
[10:59] <mpool> Bigglez: Applications/System/New Login
[10:59] <edon> mpool, it shows like 10 unmet dependencies
[10:59] <Bigglez> mpool - tah, lemme try that !
[11:00] <mpool> edon: try getting ubuntu-base first then
[11:00] <snowblink> Golgotha: what app?
[11:00] <edon> mpool, two unmet dependencies :)
[11:01] <Bigglez> mpool - good stuff thanks.
[11:01] <Golgotha> been playing around a bit now... and i see that the first app I run, runs fine, the next one gives hassles
[11:01] <mpool> edon: try removing the depended-by packages
[11:01] <Bigglez> I have another - has anyone managed to compile the latest gtk-gnutella on Ubuntu?
[11:01] <snowblink> Golgotha: how much RAM do you have?
[11:01] <Ribs> baaa
[11:01] <Golgotha> 256
[11:02] <Bigglez> Golgotha - which apps have u tried?
[11:03] <Golgotha> Bigglez: ran Mozilla fine and then no other apps wanted to work... looks like they start up, and then doesn't
[11:03] <mpool> Golgotha: try getting a terminal and running something from there
[11:03] <Golgotha> Bigglez: also ran gaim, and then the next app (open office) did not want to start
[11:03] <Bigglez> Golgotha - try restart and then DONT run firefox
[11:04] <snowblink> Golgotha: you're picking some memory hungry apps
[11:04] <edon> mpool, could a dist-upgrade help, what do you say?
[11:04] <Bigglez> Yeah
[11:04] <Bigglez> From a live-cd?
[11:04] <snowblink> Golgotha: perhaps you can install - will perform better.
[11:04] <mpool> Golgotha: if you have linux swap partition on disk, you could turn that on and then it would be better
[11:05] <Golgotha> mpool: how do i do that?
[11:05] <Golgotha> bigglez: cant start xterm
[11:06] <mpool> Golgotha: well, do you already have linux installed on the disk?
[11:06] <Bigglez> Golgotha - I am not sure what your situation is. First time I ran my installed ubu it also hung. Now, no problems.
[11:06] <mpool> on the hard disk that is
[11:08] <Bigglez> Just in case: Has anyone tried to compile the latest gtk-gnutella on Ubu?
[11:08] <Golgotha> mpool: yip SuSE 9.2
[11:08] <mpool> Bigglez: are you trying and failing, or just curious?
[11:09] <mpool> Golgotha: OK, try Ctrl-Alt-f1 to get a text teminal
[11:09] <Bigglez> mpool: Trying and failing during 'make' - bunch of GTK related errors.
[11:09] <mpool> i assume that works on livecd...
[11:09] <Bigglez> mpool: Same source that compiled fine under Fedora 1
[11:09] <mpool> apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev
[11:09] <Bigglez> mpool: lemme check, think I did that...
[11:09] <snowblink> Bigglez: you don't want to use the deb?
[11:10] <mpool> Golgotha: do you know which partition is used for swap in suse?
[11:10] <Bigglez> snowblink: 2 tell the truth I don't know how to use the deb ! ! !
[11:10] <Golgotha> mpool: will have to reboot and check
[11:10] <snowblink> Bigglez: sudo dpkg -i gtkgnutella.deb
[11:10] <Bigglez> mpool: Thanks again - I will install that and try again! Sheesh, details details!
[11:11] <snowblink> Bigglez: or whatever the deb is called
[11:11] <Golgotha> mpool: cntr-alt-f1 just hanging... rebooting now
[11:11] <Bigglez> snowblink: thanks. New to Debian based stuff. Will that screw-up anything?
[11:11] <mpool> Golgotha: OK; when you get back up, check which one is used for swap and write it down
[11:12] <snowblink> Bigglez: shouldn't do. In fact it should show up in Synaptic for you too.
[11:12] <mpool> then, boot the livecd and before you do anything else, open a terminal and run
[11:12] <mpool>   sudo swapon /dev/hda333
[11:12] <mpool> or whatever it was
[11:12] <Bigglez> Ok - people - thanks for all the help. I'm off to experiment!
[11:12] <Bigglez> Good luck Golgotha - keep trying.
[11:13] <edon> mpool, what do you think, does an dist-upgrade take care of those unmet dependencies?
[11:13] <Golgotha> bigglez: will do, thanx
[11:13] <mpool> edon: no, because the versions are inconsistent between debian and ubuntu
[11:13] <Golgotha> too late
[11:13] <mpool> but you can try!
[11:13] <Golgotha> ;-)
[11:14] <edon> mpool, yes I am trying. If it doesn't work how should I get rid of those unmet dependencies and go on?
[11:15] <mpool> edon: remove the thing that depends on them
[11:15] <mpool> basically just keep pulling things out until it works
[11:15] <mpool> you can remove anything, unless you get the big "this will make your machine unusable" warning
[11:15] <xukun> is there somebody here who is familiar with cisco's ccna? maybe passed the exam already?
[11:16] <edon> mpool, I see, so let's say ubuntu-base depends on 'x' what should I remove?
[11:16] <edon> the installed version of x?
[11:17] <mpool> mm
[11:17] <mpool> more, um if it can't install x because y depends on a different version of x, then remove y
[11:17] <mpool> and remove x too for good measure
[11:17] <mpool> it
[11:17] <mpool> it's ok that ubuntu-base depends on lots of stuff
[11:17] <mpool> the problem is if any of them are uninstallable
[11:18] <edon> mpool, I see, thank you
[11:21] <Golgotha> mpool: how can i check which /dev is /swap
[11:22] <Ng> Golgotha: in a terminal, do: grep swap /etc/fstab
[11:22] <Ng> you should see a line like this: /dev/sda4       none            swap    sw              0       0
[11:23] <Golgotha> Ng: thanx
[11:29] <zAo^> What package should I install for extra fonts in X?
[11:31] <Golgotha> mpool: I get the following error when i run 'sudo swapon /dev/hdc2' - swapon: /dev/hdc2: Device or resource busy
[11:31] <Serengeti> zAo^ msttcorefonts has Verdana, Trebuchet etc.
[11:32] <nico_m> hi
[11:33] <nico_m> does anyone else have this problem: evolution's calendar view crashes when I use the calendar/clock applet
[11:33] <nico_m> (hoary)
[11:33] <adnans> Golgotha, perhaps hdc2 is already mounted somewhere? see what mount says
[11:40] <edon> mpool, still here?
[11:40] <Golgotha> mpool: here we go - the swap is actually already working...
[11:41] <Golgotha> mpool: i open several apps at a time and as long as I dont set up my network connection all is well
[11:42] <Golgotha> mpool: once i enable my network (LAN) then no apps wanna start up - weird hey ;-)
[11:44] <mpool> Golgotha: cool
[11:45] <mpool> i am a bit surprise
[11:45] <mpool> but i guess the livecd stuff uses a lot of memory
[11:45] <mpool> so maybe running the net is just the last straw?  i don't know
[11:47] <edon> mpool, ubuntu-base now has only one unmet dependency libc6-dev, which has debian's libc6 remove which will remove apt which will really make my machine useless :)
[11:47] <mpool> well remove libc6-dev
[11:47] <mpool> then apt-get install libc6
[11:48] <Golgotha> mpool: thanx for trying ;-)
[11:48] <mpool> Golgotha: i am kind of surprised
[11:49] <mpool> i cannot get used to 256MB being small :-)
[11:49] <mpool> um
[11:49] <mpool> maybe there's a boot option to use less memory?
[11:49] <mpool> check in the boot menu
[11:51] <Golgotha> mpool: boot menu??
[11:51] <CreeVal> Any good free alternatives for WinRAR? Graphical apps is preferred...
[11:51] <Golgotha> the memory app only shows 120meg being used and 5 meg in the swap partition
[11:52] <edon> mpool, the problem is that it leads to a debian installed libc6 which should be substituted with ubuntu's, but removing debian's libc6 will remove apt
[11:52] <Peter> i've installed my printer, and its at 'mlc:usb:psc_2500_series'
[11:52] <Peter> how would i print to it?
[11:52] <mpool> edon: well, you need to persuade it to upgrade to the ubuntu one
[11:52] <mpool> that should be possible
[11:53] <mpool> if you upgrade just that package
[11:53] <mpool> CreeVal: file-roller?
[11:53] <CreeVal> Thx... :)
[11:53] <julien_> hi
[11:54] <julien_> I had the same problem twice in a month with hoary: after I rebooted, I had no swap.
[11:54] <CreeVal> Well, it's just one problem with that one mpool, it cant open .rar archives, at least not here...
[11:54] <julien_> I had to run mkswap /dev/hda2, and swapon -a to re-enable it.
[11:54] <julien_> Any idea what can cause it ?
[11:55] <mpool> CreeVal: try guitar then
[11:55] <edon> mpool, how should I upgrade it? apt-get upgrade does not work, remove and install removes apt
[11:55] <CreeVal> mpool: will do ;)
[11:55] <Peter> anyone? how would i access my printer at  mlc:usb:psc_2500_series
[11:57] <CreeVal> mpool, Didn't work, guess i'll have to get Winrar... :(
[11:57] <mpool> unrar?rar?
[11:58] <CreeVal> Yes... But Guitar does not support .00 (and so on) files... So any connection with the archives breakes and the archive becomes useless... :S
[11:59] <mpool> oh, this is like usenet stuff?
[11:59] <mpool> um
[11:59] <mpool> there is some way to reassemble them, but i forget it
[11:59] <CreeVal> Yeah...
[11:59] <mpool> try google
[11:59] <CreeVal> well i have Winrar now, so i'll just have to take it the painfull command way :P
[12:00] <mpool> ok
[12:00] <mpool> suit yourself
[12:00] <CreeVal> ;)
[12:01] <NoseQ> hello
[12:02] <shock> moin
[12:06] <julien_> moin moin
[12:06] <maggi> are you danish julien_?
[12:07] <julien_> maggi: no, I'm French. But I've spent some time in Hamburg :)
[12:08] <maggi> hehe
[12:09] <maggi> but hey. I have this problem. I extracted all the files from a tar.gz archive, and went to that dir in terminal. Then i wrote ./configure, but then it said that I had no gcc compiler or some shit like that
[12:10] <Hannes__> maggi: sudo apt-get install gcc
[12:11] <mpool> heh
[12:11] <Peter> hmm
[12:11] <Peter> my mother has the gentoo installation guide
[12:12] <maggi> my synaptic sources aren't good
[12:12] <maggi> I can never find anything...
[12:12] <Hannes__> build-essential
[12:13] <maggi> and besides that I have to pay for foreign bandwith... So everytime I download something that doesn't have an icelandic IP I have to pay extra
[12:13] <CreeVal> :(
[12:14] <Hannes__> maggi: O_o ?
[12:14] <CreeVal> sounds like a crappy ISP...
[12:14] <Hannes__> yap
[12:14] <maggi> sounds like blackmail
[12:14] <julien_> maggi: and I guess icelandic IPs are not really the most common ones...
[12:14] <maggi> it's like that with ALL ISP's here
[12:15] <maggi> except one, but it has known to be really crappy
[12:15] <CreeVal> (pay*)
[12:15] <Hannes__> me has 42 E for "/1Mbit DSL
[12:15] <maggi> It should be like that here
[12:15] <Hannes__> 2/1
[12:15] <CreeVal> nice Hannes__
[12:16] <maggi> Icelandic ISPs suck
[12:16] <maggi> they get away with it because they all do it
[12:16] <CreeVal> I have 2mbit/348kbit
[12:16] <maggi> if you have Sdsl the upload shouldn't affect the download speed right?
[12:16] <CreeVal> Dont think so...
[12:16] <Hannes__> In taampere, 24/1Mbit for 63E
[12:16] <Hannes__> *tampere
[12:17] <CreeVal> ffs :P
[12:17] <Hannes__> ADSL2+ Full Rate
[12:17] <Hannes__> max. 24 M/1 M*** 63 ./kk (laskutusvli 3 kk)*
[12:17] <Hannes__> 69 ./kk (laskutusvli 1 kk)
[12:17] <maggi> adsl sucks. when someone is uploading from me my downloads become uber slow
[12:17] <CreeVal> But again, it might be the crappy ISP's...
[12:18] <CreeVal> We had an ISP that tried that in our country but they lost alot of costumers during that periode...
[12:18] <CreeVal> (Telenor if that sounds familiar)
[12:18] <maggi> hehe
[12:18] <CreeVal> Now only idiots use them :P
[12:19] <maggi> they started out with that shit like from day 1 here on Iceland. They had to pay for the dsl strings to america and the UK
[12:19] <maggi> but now I think they HAVE paid for their fucking string
[12:19] <CreeVal> :(
[12:19] <CreeVal> Stupid ISP's always wanting more money...
[12:20] <maggi> well. That's iceland in a nutshell
[12:20] <maggi> hey what is the standard source for the debian apt get source?
[12:20] <maggi> is.debian.org?
[12:20] <CreeVal> Our ISP has capacity for 54mbit lines but we only get 2 :( The fastest line they offer is like 8mbit or something... I mean it's so crappy compared to other countries...
[12:21] <CreeVal> dunno
[12:21] <maggi> I'm moving to canada in like 4 years or some.
[12:21] <CreeVal> Canada?
[12:21] <CreeVal> hehe
[12:21] <CreeVal> (Remote closed the connection) = He sat on the remote :P
[12:22] <maggi> haha
[12:22] <maggi> laughing out loud
[12:22] <CreeVal> :P
[12:23] <CreeVal> I mean some IRC quit messages are just plain stupid... :P
[12:24] <CreeVal> And they get worse if they get translated to Norwegian...
[12:24] <maggi> hehe
[12:25] <M3ta> Then again, "ALLways" is a nordic-only word isn't it? Cause it surely isn't english, but most nordics spell it like that.
[12:25] <maggi> is it always?
[12:25] <maggi> :p
[12:25] <CreeVal> ho ho... yeah... Im quite good at that...
[12:26] <CreeVal> I knew i should have chosen English this year too... But nooo i had to chose information technology...
[12:26] <CreeVal> (Sucks btw)
[12:26] <maggi> hehe
[12:27] <maggi> I'm just sick at home with nothing to do and no gcc compiler so basicly I can't install anything
[12:27] <CreeVal> kinda sucks :p
[12:27] <CreeVal> And you cant finde anything via synaptic?
[12:28] <maggi> no
[12:28] <M3ta> And i thought I lived in the only damn country whose lame isps had international traffic limits and crap like that.
[12:28] <M3ta> :P
[12:28] <CreeVal> hehe
[12:28] <CreeVal> What country is that?
[12:28] <maggi> And when I tried to install VLC but nooooo. My distro is not supported or somes shit by that kind of vlc
[12:28] <maggi> Iceland
[12:28] <maggi> m3ta lives in russia right?
[12:29] <M3ta> Portugal here.
[12:29] <maggi> damn
[12:29] <maggi> so close
[12:29] <Haukkari_> =)
[12:29] <CreeVal> hehe
[12:29] <M3ta> Although i pay extra to have unlimited traffic, but it's still lame.
[12:29] <CreeVal> Lame as hell
[12:29] <Haukkari_> That's weird, btw, I haven't seen all that many people from Russia on IRC
[12:29] <M3ta> And the 2 isps who have unlimited for free, really move at half the speed they advertise.
[12:29] <Haukkari_> I do live in Russia's neighborhood, I'm from Finland. :)
[12:29] <CreeVal> They are to busy with mob activity
[12:29] <CreeVal> :P
[12:30] <maggi> warning. might be flooding a bit now. around 10 or 15 lines from terminal
[12:30] <maggi> root@tux:/home/maggi/Desktop/xmms-1.2.10 # ./configure
[12:30] <maggi> checking build system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
[12:30] <maggi> checking host system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
[12:30] <maggi> checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
[12:30] <maggi> checking whether build environment is sane... yes
[12:30] <maggi> checking for gawk... no
[12:30] <maggi> checking for mawk... mawk
[12:30] <M3ta> Russian mob, chinese mob and italian mob all gather in some secret IRC place for their meetings ;)
[12:30] <maggi> checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes
[12:30] <maggi> checking for prefix by checking for xmms... no
[12:30] <maggi> checking for gcc... no
[12:30] <maggi> checking for cc... no
[12:30] <maggi> checking for cc... no
[12:30] <maggi> checking for cl... no
[12:30] <maggi> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[12:30] <CreeVal> Hehe @ M3ta
[12:30] <maggi> See `config.log' for more details.
[12:31] <CreeVal> Super crappy indeed maggi
[12:31] <M3ta> maggi: does 'apt-cache search gcc' find the package on your reps?
[12:31] <maggi> wait
[12:32] <CreeVal> Haukkari_, Finland is great, i like it there... Drove through there once... :)
[12:32] <CreeVal> Alot of bugs, but its nice...
[12:33] <CreeVal> brb
[12:33] <shock> finland is _really_ nice :D lots of really friendly & good looking females, there *g*
[12:33] <trey3> maggi: apt-get install build-essential
[12:34] <maggi> nope
[12:34] <maggi> didn't work
[12:34] <maggi> I'm going to try another source
[12:34] <trey3> maggi: bah... build-essentials
[12:34] <CreeVal> back...
[12:34] <trey3> No... its build-essential  :/
[12:35] <trey3> gah.. its in main, there is no reason you don't have it  :/
[12:36] <Haukkari_> CreeVal: yay. :)
[12:36] <CreeVal> :)
[12:37] <maggi> I found a better source
[12:37] <maggi> yeah
[12:37] <CreeVal> yey! :D
[12:38] <maggi> pfff. apt-get is useless in Iceland
[12:38] <trey3> maggi: better than the defaults? cuz I get ~520kb/s from ubuntu site   :/
[12:39] <maggi> and without a gcc compiler I can not install things right?
[12:39] <CreeVal> mmm... saltet crackers...
[12:39] <maggi> so basicly I'm fucked
[12:39] <maggi> :)
[12:39] <shock> todays userfriendly is kewl
[12:39] <shock> :)
[12:39] <trey3> maggi: default Ubuntu site... apt-get install build-essential.
[12:39] <null> bah read http://www.phdcomics.com its da best so far i have read
[12:40] <maggi> what type of "i" processors is an pentium mobile?
[12:41] <maggi> hehe
[12:41] <trey3> maggi: Ubuntu servers are closer to you than me... I get nice speeds though  :/
[12:41] <CreeVal> Me too
[12:42] <CreeVal> 300 kb/s
[12:42] <maggi> it's not about that. It's about not having to pay for the download
[12:42] <csturm> hey guys! i have a problem with the ati drivers. is this a known issue: (EE) fglrx(0): [agp]  unable to acquire AGP, error "xf86_ENOMEM" ?
[12:42] <CreeVal> hmm...
[12:42] <CreeVal> csturm, you have followed the HOWTO in the forum?
[12:42] <CreeVal> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3567
[12:43] <CreeVal> It helped me alot...
[12:43] <trey3> maggi: suit yourself... not using apt-get takes about 70% of the reason most use Debian based away though  :/
[12:43] <csturm> creeval: that looks interesting :)
[12:43] <CreeVal> Made my install alot easier than it had been in SUSE... :P
[12:44] <CreeVal> And i thought that was easy :P
[12:44] <CreeVal> Im getting the feel for Ubuntu now... Hopefully i dont need to uninstall it again... I have it all working just perfect :)
[12:45] <CreeVal> Though i have Windows installed i havent loaded it for about 2 weeks now...
[12:46] <CreeVal> Theres that stupid remote again...
[12:47] <trey3> CreeVal: Warty or Hoary?
[12:47] <CreeVal> And whats up with this guy peer? who is he to reset someones connection? Im just asking... I'll find him one day... </irony>
[12:47] <CreeVal> trey3: Warty
[12:47] <trey3> heh... cuz the menu's change a lot in Hoary... have to get used to it again  ;)
[12:47] <CreeVal> Looking forward to it :)
[12:48] <CreeVal> Hopefully we dont have to wait for an ATI driver...
[12:48] <trey3> CreeVal: Hoary uses new Gnome defaults though... has Applications, Places, and Desktop now  :)
[12:48] <CreeVal> cool...
[12:48] <Deschanel> Will Ubuntu run on a Gateway laptop
[12:49] <trey3> Deschanel: probably...
[12:49] <null> trey3: hmm all those people i know "sit down" instead :p
[12:50] <CreeVal> haha, well Hoary haven't been released in other than the test version right?
[12:50] <CreeVal> It's not "public" yet right?
[12:50] <csturm> cool, now i have 3d acceleration. thx creeval!
[12:50] <CreeVal> :)
[12:50] <CreeVal> Np :)
[12:50] <trey3> CreeVal: depends how you define 'public'...
[12:50] <Deschanel> And one more question... Can I have 2 OS's on my system? U know, Windows + Ubuntu?
[12:50] <trey3> CreeVal: there are install CD's etc for it...
[12:51] <CreeVal> trey3: I mean like, it's not finished just yet?
[12:51] <trey3> Deschanel: yes
[12:51] <trey3> CreeVal: nope... but its stable   :/
[12:51] <Deschanel> That'll be automaticly during installation, or I need to change somethin?
[12:51] <trey3> Deschanel: depends how lucky you are  ;)
[12:52] <Deschanel> what do u mean?
[12:52] <CreeVal> trey3: waiting till the Warty gets taken off the site then, and exchanged with hoary...
[12:52] <trey3> Deschanel: d-i will try to detect Windows partition and add it to grub and fstab... but it might not...
[12:52] <CreeVal> But it most cases it does... At least in my case...
[12:52] <csturm> i am running hoary on one desktop and one notebook and its really stable (for me)
[12:52] <CreeVal> Nice...
[12:53] <Deschanel> hmm ok
[12:53] <trey3> csturm: same here... other than the metacity and menu quirks that have been fixed  :)
[12:53] <CreeVal> Ive heard that Hoary will have an DVD iso too, can anyone comfirm that?
[12:53] <trey3> CreeVal: would be kind a waste  :/
[12:54] <CreeVal> Perhaps... But if they decided to include KDE...
[12:54] <csturm> creeeval: i think theres a test version of a dvd iso available
[12:54] <maggi> IMO I think kde sucks
[12:54] <maggi> I like the gnome better
[12:54] <trey3> maggi: cool
[12:54] <csturm> maggi: cool
[12:54] <trey3> maggi: no one cares though.
[12:54] <CreeVal> Haha
[12:54] <maggi> lol
[12:54] <maggi> hehe. I feel so important now
[12:55] <CreeVal> Gnome is a bit faster than KDE... I had it in SUSE, but my PC was megaslow at times...
[12:55] <trey3> maggi: kde vs gnome debates got old about 7 years ago  :/
[12:55] <maggi> lo
[12:55] <maggi> l
[12:55] <maggi> back then I didn't have a computer
[12:55] <CreeVal> hehe
[12:56] <CreeVal> Me neither...
[12:56] <maggi> what's the command for checking if I have gcc compiler installed?
[12:56] <csturm> does anyone know if theres a port of the good grey theme to gnome? (http://www.cepophan.com/themes/)
[12:56] <trey3> maggi: dpkg -l gcc
[12:56] <maggi> ok
[12:56] <csturm> maggi: gcc -v
[12:57] <csturm> maggi: if you need to compile stuff, install build-essentials. :)
[12:57] <CreeVal> csturm: http://art.gnome.org/index.php try here...
[12:57] <trey3> maggi: actually... could do 'dpkg -l gcc | grep ^ii
[12:57] <trey3> cuz then you don't have to decipher the output  :)
[12:57] <csturm> creeval: i looked at quite some places already
[12:57] <maggi> If I don't have a gcc compiler I am pretty much screwed right?
[12:57] <trey3> maggi:
[12:57] <trey3> no
[12:57] <CreeVal> csturm: k... I have a black theme... Like it alot :)
[12:58] <csturm> maggi: you are just one apt-get away from not being screwed :)
[12:58] <trey3> maggi: except it will be kinda hard to compile things   :/
[12:58] <maggi> yeah but my apt-get doesn't work
[12:58] <csturm> sudo apt-get build-essentials :)
[12:58] <csturm> what does it say?
[12:58] <trey3> maggi: define 'doesn't work'.
[12:59] <trey3> csturm: that would return an error... 'apt: build-essential: invalid argument'  ;)
[12:59] <csturm> trey: damn :)
[12:59] <trey3> csturm: apt-get install build-essential would work though  8)
[12:59] <csturm> :((
[12:59] <CreeVal> hehe
[12:59] <csturm> faster typing than thinking, sorry
[01:00] <CreeVal> csturm: Your suffering from that too? :P
[01:00] <csturm> it happens ;)
[01:00] <Guardiann> good morning guys
[01:00] <CreeVal> Good morning :)
[01:01] <trey3> Guardiann: morning  :)
[01:01] <maggi> god damnit
[01:01] <CreeVal> csturm: Do it all the time my self...
[01:01] <trey3> maggi: what errors does apt give?
[01:01] <maggi> hey. I might try to put the ubuntu cd in. And then use that as a repository
[01:01] <csturm> maybe the working 3d acceleration made me too happy to think :)
[01:01] <maggi> same as usual. couldn't find package
[01:01] <trey3> maggi: most everything on the CD gets installed...
[01:02] <CreeVal> csturm: Hehe, i was extremly happy myself after getting it to work so quick... :)
[01:02] <maggi> yeah. in the installation process it says sometime that ubuntu is installing GCC
[01:02] <Guardiann> damm i hate this cold  :)
[01:02] <trey3> maggi: 'deb http://archive.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu warty main restricted universe multiverse'
[01:02] <maggi> ok
[01:02] <trey3> maggi: add that to /etc/apt/sources.list and try again.
[01:02] <csturm> creeval: cant wait to run doom3 as a little 3d benchmark
[01:02] <maggi> I'll try that
[01:03] <csturm> its a pity that hl2 isnt available for linux
[01:03] <CreeVal> csturm: Yeah doom 3 works so smooth here... Its allmost scary :)
[01:03] <CreeVal> csturm: Yeah HL2 should be avalible for Linux... Pisses me off actually...
[01:04] <trey3> CreeVal: why would that 'piss you off'?
[01:04] <CreeVal> Because i got it for free :P
[01:04] <delltony> if you were updating your ati mobility radeon 9800 on ubuntu which version would you use XFree86 4.1 XFree86 4.2 XFree86 4.3 X.Org 6.8 ? thanks in advance
[01:04] <csturm> creeval: when i bought my grafixcard a year ago it came with halflife 2 included
[01:04] <CreeVal> Me 2
[01:04] <csturm> pity that i cant run it now :)
[01:04] <maggi> ahh sweet
[01:04] <maggi> it works.
[01:04] <maggi> but I might have to run this shit only in school
[01:05] <trey3> maggi: heh... for now though... 'apt-get install build-essential'
[01:05] <CreeVal> csturm: Yeah... But then again Transgaming clames that Cedega can run it...
[01:05] <CreeVal> Havent tried though
[01:05] <csturm> creeval: do they still offer a demo version?
[01:05] <maggi> sweet
[01:05] <maggi> I love this apt :p
[01:05] <CreeVal> dunno
[01:05] <trey3> csturm: they offer a free version if you don't need the pretty gui crap
[01:06] <trey3> csturm: you have to know how to navigate CVS though  :/
[01:06] <maggi> what is "GLIP" ?
[01:06] <maggi> glib*
[01:07] <trey3> maggi: GTK's main library...
[01:07] <trey3> maggi: apt-get build-dep pkg_you_are_compiling
[01:07] <trey3> please
[01:07] <csturm> trey: do you know the cvsroot?
[01:08] <csturm> it seems cedega doesnt offer a demo version anymore. i will get the cvs version...
[01:09] <maggi> trey3 what would that package be? a tar file?
[01:11] <trey3> maggi: build-dep is an apt-get argument... downloads everything it needs to compile said package.
[01:11] <delltony> will an x.org driver work on ubuntu?
[01:11] <CreeVal> *cedega installed*
[01:11] <mjg59> delltony: Not on Warty
[01:11] <trey3> csturm: not off the top of my head...
[01:12] <maggi> but the package. would that be the tar.gz file?
[01:12] <trey3> maggi: no... they would be .debs ...
[01:12] <delltony> well could you help me with the driver on ati's site i'm not sure which one to use :(
[01:12] <trey3> .debs contain tar.gz's though  :/
[01:12] <gen> be the tar.gz file?
[01:12] <maggi> ahh I see. so if there are no .deb files I can not use that apt-get stuff
[01:14] <Ng> how does one configure nautilus to connect to a share if it's on a domain rather than a workgroup?
[01:14] <Ng> I'm trying various combinations and it's mostly just sitting there not connecting :/
[01:14] <trey3> maggi: there is almost nothing in the open source realm that doesn't have a .deb ... some that don't have a binary package though... even those are on mentors.d.n though  :/
[01:15] <delltony> i found it they have a check.sh on there that i had overlooked
[01:16] <trey3> Ng: /etc/samba/smb.conf ... change 'security =' to 'user' ...
[01:16] <trey3> (actually, seems to be the default here  :/  )
[01:16] <trey3> Ng: user = domain, share = workgroup...
[01:16] <CreeVal> is it *safe* for me to install debian packages or should i try to get special Ubuntu .deb's?
[01:16] <Ng> trey3: really? surely it's not using samba?
[01:16] <maggi> that .deb would be somewhere inside the tar.gz archive? I just have to locate it
[01:16] <trey3> Ng: the workgroup= option just defines the name of the domain/workgroup
[01:17] <trey3> Ng: huh? thats how it will authenticate too... not just incoming afaik  :/
[01:17] <Ng> I thought the libsmb end of things didn't touch the samba config
[01:18] <Ng> that really bites
[01:18] <trey3> CreeVal: its not peticularly smart... but it works...
[01:18] <Ng> what if there are two domains on the network?
[01:18] <CreeVal> trey#: ok...
[01:18] <CreeVal> Well because i just installed Cedega.deb witch is for Debian and not Ubuntu, but i guess it will work...
[01:19] <CreeVal> (wtf?)
[01:19] <trey3> CreeVal: should, yes...
[01:19] <CreeVal> good...
[01:19] <csturm> creeval: where did you get that deb?
[01:19] <trey3> Ng: bah... I'm gonna shush... cuz I'm not 100% sure now... :(
[01:19] <CreeVal> ....
[01:20] <CreeVal> not leagally i can assure you...
[01:20] <Ng> trey3: yeah, I'm gonna call shenanigans because smbclient manages to do it ok without changing the smb.conf file ;)
[01:20] <Ng> trey3: but thanks anyway :)
[01:20] <csturm> if cedega works as expected i will buy it for sure
[01:22] <maggi> ok now. I am lost. how do I make this GLIB thing work? :S
[01:22] <FLeiXiuS> csturm: I purchased it, first piece of software i bought since... oh wow... a long time?
[01:23] <trey3> maggi: why are you compiling things dude? seriously, you have no idea...
[01:23] <maggi> I am trying to install xmms
[01:23] <trey3> maggi: apt-get install xmms   :/
[01:23] <kbrooks>  /join #ruby-lang
[01:23] <kbrooks> oops
[01:24] <maggi> so much for tar files
[01:24] <trey3> maggi: heh  :)
[01:24] <trey3> maggi: welcome to Debian  :)
[01:24] <maggi> hehe
[01:25] <maggi> ok. now for the lamest question. Where is the "executable" file now?
[01:25] <maggi> the one I open
[01:25] <FLeiXiuS> maggi: ls
[01:25] <FLeiXiuS> maggi: look for the green file
[01:25] <csturm> fleixius: do you know if pirates runs ok?
[01:26] <trey3> maggi: should be in your menu already... under Applications > Sound & Video
[01:26] <FLeiXiuS> csturm: they are usually outdated
[01:26] <trey3> maggi: if not... Run 'xmms'...
[01:26] <maggi> I figured that out :)
[01:26] <FLeiXiuS> csturm: It's available for free, why would u need to pirate it?  It's available in the CVS
[01:27] <maggi> yes! finally I got something working in linux :)
[01:27] <maggi> thanks
[01:27] <trey3> maggi: when you get more familier with apt... you will love it  :)
[01:27] <kbrooks> as i do... ;)
[01:28] <FLeiXiuS> maggi: Just to help you out, search google / any search engine out there before answering the qesutions trust me.  You'll find them a lot more helpful then some answers we give.
[01:28] <maggi> so now if I want to install something I just go to "run" and write the name
[01:28] <FLeiXiuS> maggi: read the debian documentation
[01:29] <trey3> maggi: if you want... sure... should be in menu, will be on next login..
[01:29] <maggi> I have tried to search google and sometimes it is much more helpfull to get help on an chat
[01:30] <maggi> damn. My mom is going to be pissed when the phone bill comes in the door :P
[01:31] <trey3> FLeiXiuS: thing about searching google for newbies... often they don't actually know what they want... so its not very helpful...
[01:31] <kbrooks> maggi, why?
[01:32] <trey3> kbrooks: some places charge for phone use and dial-up internet...
[01:32] <maggi> because I have to pay for foreign downloads
[01:32] <trey3> kbrooks: were doing that when I left England for instance...
[01:33] <kbrooks> maggi, that sucks
[01:33] <kbrooks> maggi, who made u do that
[01:33] <xskoulax> kbrooks, its the shitty isps they have in iceland
[01:33] <maggi> every ISP on Iceland
[01:33] <M3ta> I had my first modem in 1990 and i never NOT payed for dialup. It's funny how some people are "born" with some things free.
[01:34] <trey3> M3ta: never use Freei.net and friends?  :)
[01:34] <Quest-Master> Yeah, I used to have free Internet too. :P
[01:34] <Quest-Master> It was called FreeDSL
[01:34] <xskoulax> well M3ta in the usa local phone calls are not charged by the minute as its often the case in europe
[01:35] <kbrooks> maggi, where do you live
[01:35] <M3ta> I know, but what0s funny is how some americans thing the whole world is like them.
[01:35] <M3ta> thinK*
[01:35] <xskoulax> yea it is funny
[01:36] <M3ta> But even so, when i lived in NY and had (yuck) AOL, it was NOT totally free :P
[01:36] <xskoulax> they think they are at the top of technology too, they fail to realise there are areas where asia or europe are ahead
[01:36] <kbrooks> i like my cable :P
[01:37] <xskoulax> so i've seen both sides somewhat
[01:38] <trey3> xskoulax: same here... very simular actually... moved from Newquay to Phoenix  :)
[01:38] <xskoulax> Newquay?
[01:38] <trey3> xskoulax: its in North Cornwall...
[01:38] <xskoulax> ahhh ok
[01:39] <trey3> xskoulax: like an hour from Bristol  :)
[01:39] <xskoulax> koo koo
[01:39] <xskoulax> when you move?
[01:39] <trey3> 97
[01:39] <xskoulax> 96
[01:39] <xskoulax> haha
[01:39] <trey3> 8)
[01:39] <xskoulax> pretty damn similar
[01:39] <trey3> very... scary  :)
[01:40] <maggi> dcgui is the linux DC++ right?
[01:40] <trey3> maggi: one of ... yes
[01:41] <Guardiann> trey3 are you a hockey fan
[01:41] <trey3> Guardiann: never understood that sport  :/
[01:42] <Guardiann> :)
[01:42] <trey3> Guardiann: I don't get the fun in it... you freeze your ass off... and get hit like 20 times in an hour... FUN
[01:42] <xskoulax> bit like rugby then
[01:42] <xskoulax> ;p
[01:42] <Guardiann> yeah
[01:42] <trey3> xskoulax: yup... haha
[01:43] <trey3> specially when you happen to be playing in Wales  ;)
[01:43] <Guardiann> i am one of those assuming people...I saw you say phoenex thought you meant USA
[01:44] <trey3> Guardiann: I live in Phoenix... but I'm far from being an American  ;)
[01:47] <Guardiann> I am in Canada myself
[01:48] <Soap_On_A_Roap> how would I be able to Burn a music CD? on Ubuntu
[01:48] <pisuke> Soap_On_A_Roap, apt-get install k3b
[01:48] <trey3> Guardiann: thats cool  :)   talk to some people in Canada... cool people  :)
[01:49] <trey3> pisuke: please recommend xcdroast, not k3b.
[01:49] <Soap_On_A_Roap> why thank you my good friend
[01:49] <Soap_On_A_Roap> so xcd?
[01:49] <pisuke> trey3, I can't stand xcdroast
[01:49] <trey3> besides anything, its just better (faster...)
[01:49] <trey3> pisuke: most won't like kde based apps on a gtk desktop either  :/
[01:50] <Soap_On_A_Roap> you should be telling me what to9 use :| not pisuke
[01:50] <Soap_On_A_Roap> i just need something to burn music
[01:50] <jeegiz> Soap_On_A_Roap, apt-gte install graveman
[01:50] <Guardiann> :) yeah we are very cool up here.....dammm its only -24 here this am  the coolest  :)
[01:50] <trey3> Soap_On_A_Roap: xcdroast is nice... until Rhythmbox gets such a feature... coaster is nice also, but not in the archive...
[01:50] <Soap_On_A_Roap> :|
[01:50] <Soap_On_A_Roap> TOO MANY
[01:50] <Soap_On_A_Roap> whats the fastest
[01:50] <Soap_On_A_Roap> for burning
[01:50] <Soap_On_A_Roap> but with quality
[01:51] <trey3> Soap_On_A_Roap: xcdroast is faster than k3b gernerally... can't talk for graveman though, never used it...
[01:52] <Soap_On_A_Roap> aight
[01:52] <trey3> generally*
[01:52] <Soap_On_A_Roap> I'll try all of them sooner or later
[01:52] <CreeVal> trey3...
[01:52] <CreeVal> I got it working
[01:53] <trey3> CreeVal: /msg, not dcc chat  ;)
[01:53] <Soap_On_A_Roap> but I have another question to ask
[01:53] <CreeVal> lol
[01:53] <CreeVal> sorry
[01:53] <trey3> Soap_On_A_Roap: whats up?
[01:53] <Soap_On_A_Roap> when I open a folder, the open folder picture is lined out
[01:53] <Soap_On_A_Roap> http://www.deviantart.com/view/14677375/
[01:53] <gen>  for graveman though, never used it...
[01:53] <gen> 06:52 < Soap_On_A_Roap> aight
[01:53] <Soap_On_A_Roap> top left corne folder
[01:53] <gen> err
[01:54] <Soap_On_A_Roap> anybvody know?
[01:55] <Soap_On_A_Roap> i guess not
[01:57] <Soap_On_A_Roap> :|
[01:57] <trey3> Soap_On_A_Roap: yeah... that just notifies you the folder is open... different themes tell you this is different ways...
[01:58] <Soap_On_A_Roap> well it's really annoying
[01:58] <trey3> Soap_On_A_Roap: change icon theme?
[01:58] <Soap_On_A_Roap> when I make a custom theme, no matter what uicons, does it
[01:58] <Soap_On_A_Roap> except the paper icon, which I don't like
[01:59] <Soap_On_A_Roap> well thanks for your guys help anyways
[02:02] <Sav> Cant ubuntu (VLC) hadle .wmv files? i only get sound no video.
[02:02] <trey3> Sav: you need the right Codecs...
[02:03] <Sav> can u point me to one ?
[02:03] <csturm> trey: i think vlc comes with all codes included
[02:03] <csturm> codecs
[02:03] <trey3> Sav: http://www.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/releases/codecs/  <-- the 'all' package has all I need  :/
[02:05] <trey3> w32codecs uses 'essential'... which doesn't have most of the ones I use  :/
[02:05] <Sav> thnx
[02:05] <trey3> (for instance can't play .wmv  :( )
[02:05] <trey3> Sav: ohh... when you extract that file... put them in /usr/lib/win32  ...
[02:12] <balc> is there any noticable benefit to upgrading my installation to hoary?
[02:13] <Ng> balc: no!
[02:13] <Ng> hoary is a development release
[02:13] <Ng> it's not stable
[02:14] <CreeVal> wierd, i heard different
[02:14] <balc> creeval?
[02:14] <Ng> CreeVal: it depends who you ask and when you ask, it could work fine one day and break completely the next
[02:14] <balc> you heard hoary is better?
[02:14] <Ng> that's the point, it's the development tree
[02:14] <CreeVal> heard it was stable...
[02:14] <CreeVal> But not better
[02:14] <Ng> it will be stable when they say "this is stable" and give it a release number
[02:14] <Ng> which will be ~March
[02:15] <Ng> and it will be better
[02:15] <CreeVal> Yeah i dont have it... Have Warty
[02:15] <Ng> until then, I would recommend not running it if you don't know what you're doing with it
[02:15] <CreeVal> ;)
[02:17] <trey3> Ng: wrong on two accounts... Hoary has a release number... 5.04 ... and will be April  :)
[02:19] <Ng> trey3: ok, well the important bit is that it lacks the all-important "stable" stamp
[02:19] <trey3> Ng: oh... and Hoary IS stable *RIGHT NOW*....
[02:19] <Ng> irrelevant
[02:19] <Ng> completely and totally irrelevant
[02:20] <trey3> Ng: not really  :/
[02:20] <Ng> it could break so badly tomorrow that everyone with it installed has to start over
[02:20] <trey3> Ng: unlikely... cuz that would piss the devels off too  ;)
[02:20] <Ng> of course it's unlikely
[02:20] <Ng> but it's way more likely than with warty
[02:20] <Ng> that's my point
[02:20] <Ng> if you don't know how to put the pieces back together when it breaks, you may well not want to be running it ;)
[02:20] <trey3> Ng: old software is lame  :/
[02:21] <Ng> warty is not old
[02:21] <trey3> Ng: it is though   :/
[02:21] <trey3> Ng: name one package that is up to date today?
[02:21] <xskoulax> anyone know if the nForce4-SLI chipset is supported?
[02:21] <Ng> tracking the bleeding edge because you're cool.... is lame
[02:21] <Ng> trey3: err, gnome*?
[02:22] <kayo> sli is not yet impimented in nvidias drivers afaik
[02:22] <trey3> Ng: How about "because I want bleeding edge software"... is that lame?
[02:22] <xskoulax> ahh ok
[02:22] <rubenv> Ng: or: because i like pain (but then you'd rather use gentoo)
[02:22] <trey3> Ng: eh... 2.9.4 is out  :/    its devel, but stable  :/
[02:23] <kayo> nforse 4 should be ok
[02:23] <Ng> trey3: exactly, so warty has the latest stable gnome
[02:23] <Ng> qed
[02:23] <kayo> just no dual video
[02:23] <trey3> Actually.. I think its 2.9.90 now..  :/   RC1
[02:23] <xskoulax> kayo, don't really matter yet cause its going to be a little while longer before i build a new box.
[02:24] <CreeVal> is there a way to update Firefox to 1.0 via synaptic?
[02:24] <xskoulax> i'd kinda like a nice quiet small box tbh, getting fedu up with monster towers
[02:24] <Ng> CreeVal: there is a backport from hoary, I think it's mentioned in the wiki, try searching for backport
[02:24] <Ng> trey3: running the latest official release of something is not "settling for old stuff"
[02:24] <kayo> xskoulax: i just bought a notebook fot the same reason
[02:24] <trey3> Ng: eh
[02:25] <xskoulax> got a vaio here FXA-53
[02:25] <trey3> Ng: wait... so its ok to use backports... but not a devel version?
[02:25] <xskoulax> running ubuntu quite well too
[02:25] <trey3> Ng: backports are more likely to break things than hoary right now   :/
[02:25] <HyBRyD> someone use nicotine (soulseek)
[02:25] <xskoulax> but my desktop is showing its age on the gaming side
[02:25] <kayo> trey3: how long have you been  running hoary?
[02:26] <Ng> trey3: a backport still isn't great, but the relesae of firefox in question (1.0) is a stable release
[02:26] <trey3> kayo: since the day it started being populated
[02:26] <xskoulax> 1.4ghz AMD 512MB DDR266
[02:26] <kayo> trey3: how many bug reports have you filed?
[02:26] <trey3> kayo: seen only 2 major bugs...
[02:27] <kayo> xskoulax: this is an ibm r51
[02:27] <trey3> kayo: bug reports? like 4 ... enhancements... like 15 or so   :/
[02:27] <xskoulax> mmm ibm
[02:27] <xskoulax> nice laptops
[02:27] <trey3> kayo: its been very stable...
[02:27] <kayo> I like everything but the speakers
[02:28] <xskoulax> i really want a iMac 20", i've falling in love with their stuff since my dad brought his powerbook
[02:28] <kayo> had to hack the bios to get it to boot with a prism 2.5 mpci card
[02:28] <xskoulax> s falling/fallen
[02:29] <kayo> I like macs
[02:29] <kayo> If you like it use it and keep filing bug reports
[02:30] <trey3> I usually end up isntalling Fink, and using them like a linux distro  :/
[02:30] <kayo> makes it better for all of us
[02:30] <xskoulax> but as much as i'd love a mac i'd still need a pc around for games
[02:30] <trey3> kayo: you think there are no bugs in warty?
[02:30] <trey3> kayo: cuz there are...
[02:31] <kayo> there isnt a distro without bugs, coded by humans
[02:31] <xskoulax> so i'm starting to thinkg along the lines of screw it if i can't get both i might as well build a fast box
[02:31] <kayo> heh
[02:31] <Ng> xskoulax: it's all about the amd64 ;)
[02:32] <jadawin> http://www.scene24.net/reflexions/albums/picdump/ssh_1.jpg
[02:32] <xskoulax> if i'm building a box thats they way i'm headed
[02:32] <xskoulax> AMD fan here
[02:32] <linuxT> anyone had any luck using atitvout ? it appears to work for me but the output on the tv flickers
[02:32] <trey3> Ng: isn't amd64 == Athlon64?
[02:32] <kayo> if you want to go really nuts iwill has a dual opteron board with sli
[02:32] <trey3> I heard bad things about that...
[02:32] <Ng> trey3: yes
[02:32] <Ng> bad things?
[02:33] <trey3> Ng: I wouldn't mind an Opteron...
[02:33] <trey3> Ng: yeah... the performance isn't great etc  :/
[02:33] <CreeVal> hurra for backports
[02:33] <Ng> trey3: bullshit :)
[02:33] <Ng> trey3: the performance rocks
[02:33] <Ng> sure the opterons are better, but they are way more expensive
[02:33] <xskoulax> had K6-2 350, Tbird 1.4ghz from before they started all that 2342342+ stuff, and this lappy running a Athlon XP 1500+
[02:33] <Ng> that's like comparing a P4 and way-crazy Xeon P4 ;)
[02:34] <trey3> Ng: actually... for most uses... P4 offers better performance there  :)
[02:34] <no0tic> brb
[02:34] <Ng> trey3: than a Xeon P4?
[02:34] <nir> Strange, I get 85% cpu usage for writing a cd?
[02:34] <trey3> Ng: for everyday use... ime, yes
[02:34] <nir> does it make sense?
[02:34] <Ng> trey3: I'd want to see numbers before I believe a word of that
[02:36] <trey3> Ng: no numbers... just general feel  :/
[02:36] <CreeVal> bah, the backport speed sucks... :S
[02:36] <trey3> nir: its not a bad thing really... you would rather it waste CPU cycles and take longer?  :P
[02:36] <mjr> nir, you probably don't have dma enabled for the drive, hdparm -d1 /dev/whatever
[02:37] <mjr> warty seems to have a wart at that spot
[02:42] <csturm> can someone recommend a linux game that i can use to test my 3d performance? doom3 seems to crash here with my ati card :(
[02:42] <qbeek> csturm, slune
[02:42] <stvn> csturm: tuxracer
[02:42] <CreeVal> Americas Army is a good Online game
[02:42] <kebac_> CreeVal: cube
[02:42] <kebac_> ew
[02:42] <kebac_> csturm: cube
[02:42] <qbeek> wmcube
[02:43] <umarmung> csturm, enemy territory
[02:43] <csturm> thx all
[02:43] <csturm> creeval: americas army? isnt that a windows game?
[02:43] <rubenv> csturm: not necessairly
[02:43] <kayo> hermes @ MEM 0xe0b43000: Error -16 issuing command. when i type dmesg it is full of this message any ideas, machine seems to work fine
[02:44] <CreeVal> csturm: they have a Linux client to as mentioned...
[02:44] <Ng> csturm: RTCW:Enemy Territory is free too
[02:44] <Ng> if you want something simple to test with, try tuxracer
[02:44] <Ng> it's probably in warty :)
[02:44] <CreeVal> Tux Racer looks cool :D
[02:44] <Ng> it is :)
[02:45] <Ng> "Who says penguins can't fly" > *
[02:45] <CreeVal> Hehe
[02:45] <CreeVal> *getting it*
[02:47] <Falstius> kayo: you have a wireless card?
[02:47] <xskoulax> bah almost 7am time to sleep, gn all
[02:50] <Goofyy> Distribution problem: Downloaded from a site, checksum not the same as 3 other sites. Site is listed in the mirrors list on ubuntu.org
[02:51] <jono> jdub, LUGRadio Season 2 Episode 8, featuring yourself is out now at www.lugradio.org
[02:58] <kayo> Falstius: yes
[03:01] <nir> I get complete freeze while writing CD
[03:01] <nir> Both with my compiled kernel and with 2.6.8.1-4-power4-smp
[03:02] <Falstius> kayo: Hermes might be the wireless driver *shrug*
[03:02] <nir> dma is not enabled by default?
[03:02] <kayo> Falstius: thanks
[03:04] <buga> hi gsuveg :)
[03:13] <Guardiann> hmmmm very quiet in here
[03:13] <klaym> please sing us something
[03:14] <Guardiann> i dont sing
[03:14] <klaym> me neither
[03:15] <shock> how bizzare - I was running my ati 9600 with driver "ati" - weirdness decided to have the radeon give me a lot better performance
[03:15] <shock> :D
[03:15] <shock> *hugsubuntucommunity"
[03:16] <bvleur> I got lost while installing hoary (from array-3 install). Somehow it wrote an empty xorg.conf and I don't know how to regenerate one
[03:16] <bvleur> (tried removing and reinstalling ubuntu-desktop, but that didn't help)
[03:17] <shock> er
[03:17] <shock> theres a configuration-tool that is a pain
[03:17] <shock> what hardware are you running?
[03:17] <bvleur> ibm thinkpad t42 with a radeon 9600 mobility
[03:18] <shock> ATI Technologies Inc RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10] 
[03:18] <shock> looking the same
[03:31] <niptac> is it ok to include repositories from ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat in /etc/apt/sources.list as recommended in Unofficial Ubuntu 4.10 Starter Guide ?
[03:32] <morgs> niptac: yes, for warty 4.10
[03:32] <morgs> niptac: I had no problems...
[03:33] <niptac> ok how do I find which warty I have?
[03:34] <niptac> I see
[03:34] <fernique> hi ppl. is there a service in ubuntu like http://packages.debian.org/ ?
[03:36] <Guardiann> niptac there is only 1 warty
[03:37] <bvleur> shock, Thanks (from XChat @ Hoary)
[03:39] <balc> which is supported better in ubuntu, xfree86 or xorg?
[03:39] <niptac> thanks its updating
[03:42] <fernique> sorry, i have to repeat my question. is there any web service for browsing available packages? i mean web interface like http://packages.debian.org/. thanks for answer :)
[03:43] <mjr> balc, xfree86, until hoary is published, then it'll be x.org
[03:44] <balc> wll im uprading to the beta of hoary so when it asks should i switch to x.org then?
[03:44] <fernique> and the next question -- is there any kind of jabber server s/w?
[03:45] <Gladiak> hi :)
[03:46] <occy> Hey... anyone here recently buy a new computer and put Ubuntu on it?
[03:46] <occy> Looking for something that's new, and yet works with Ubuntu really well.
[03:47] <mjr> balc, you'd probably best to run x.org if you go with hoary anyway, yeah
[03:48] <mjr> fernique, yes, otherwise the clients would be pretty useless ;
[03:48] <balc> ok thanks
[03:48] <mjr> (no, I haven't actually checked if the servers are in ubuntu repos)
[03:49] <\Schaap> how do i make samba start at bootup?
[03:51] <\Schaap> the service that is
[03:53] <pusling> hmm... is there a fancy tool to add universe and multiverse? (Or is the fancy tool called nano|vim|emacs /etc/apt/sources.list )
[03:54] <gilles> i have just installed ubuntu and the x server can't start
[03:54] <shock> ?
[03:54] <regebro> pusling: No you can do it in the Synaptic package manager.
[03:54] <shock> what dows it say?
[03:54] <gilles> also i don't have root password
[03:54] <suifur> gilles,you're not supposed to in ubuntu, use sudo
[03:54] <bvleur> not having root is policy (the installer stated that for you)
[03:54] <Gladiak> i've downloaded new hoary live cd (0.9.90b1) how can i install this ?
[03:54] <Gladiak> :/
[03:55] <regebro> gilles: you usually don't need a root password.
[03:55] <suifur> Gladiak,you don't install live cd's... they're for using 'live'
[03:55] <CreeVal> you cant install the live CD...
[03:55] <Guardiann> Gladiak hoary is still under developement
[03:55] <Gladiak> i know
[03:55] <Gladiak> is the new gnoppix live cd
[03:55] <Gladiak> i read somewhere
[03:55] <Gladiak> i could install it ?
[03:55] <pusling> regebro: cool(!)
 also i don't have root password (sudo bash helps)
[03:55] <shock> *g*
[03:56] <Gladiak> !
[03:56] <pusling> shock: sudo su does it as well
[03:56] <suifur> Gladiak,nein, you can't install it afaik, so just use a warty install cd and dist-upgrade to hoary
[03:56] <bvleur> sudo passwd  too :)
[03:56] <Gladiak> :/ ok
[03:56] <regebro> pusling: Yeah that package manager is nice. Best thing with Ubuntu so far (installed in Saturday).
[03:56] <eli> Hi. How do I change the Applications and the Computer menus, at the top of the desktop?
[03:56] <fernique> pusling: sudo -s?
[03:57] <pusling> regebro: have tried installing ubuntu once - and is helper at a ubuntu install party later today ;)
[03:58] <regebro> Ubuntu install party! Hah! What is this? Tupperware?
[03:58] <Guardiann> :)
[03:58] <shock> *g*
[03:58] <mjr> except you can hold your own without royalties! :)
[03:59] <pusling> regebro: it is bring your computer - and get someone to say "Just press enter and hope that backups are not needed"
[03:59] <timothy_> I am trying to get a USB flash drive to work with ubuntu- is this possible? can anyone help?
[03:59] <eli> Anybody knows how to change ubuntu menus (add/remove items)?
[04:00] <pusling> timothy_: sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt
[04:00] <suifur> eli, right click and add or remove applications
[04:00] <regebro> Well, timoty_, mine just popped up when I connected it... So sure it can be done. ButI won't be of much help. ;)
[04:00] <eli> suifur: Thanks. I can see it.
[04:02] <regebro> suifur: I was wondering that myself, and I can't get it to work. There's no "add" when I right click on the Applictaions mneu.
[04:02] <timothy_> pusling: I'm pretty sure that /dev/sda1 is my SATA hard drive - is there anything else it could be?
[04:02] <Peter> is it possible to list what modules are being used?
[04:03] <mjr> timothy_, sdb1, sdc1 etc
[04:03] <pusling> timothy_: sdb, c, etc
[04:04] <Guardiann> Peter I think its lsmod
[04:04] <timothy_> pusling: is there a way to check, so I'm sure to mount the right drive? I tried sudo fdisk -l but it isn't showing up
[04:04] <regebro> There's no "add" when I right click on the Applications menu. How do I add applications to it?
[04:04] <flosch> hi
[04:04] <mz2> how come some programs don't just work from the launchers i create, but work with the same exact command in the terminal
[04:04] <linuxT> anyone have any idea when i keep getting a VBE call error when i use atitvout the video goes to the tv but it flickers like its in pal mode or something, i can't seem to set it to ntsc
[04:05] <eli> regebro: Click: Applications, then Accessories and then point to Archive Manager (first time). Now right click!
[04:05] <Guardiann> mz2 like what program
[04:05] <pusling> timothy_: does dmesg tell anything about something new ?
[04:06] <regebro> eli: Ah, you need to first exopand a menu, and then right click, and then go down in "Entire menu", and THEN you find the "add" stuff.
[04:06] <regebro> That was NOT obvious.
[04:06] <mz2> hmm, actually, this seems to be about my $CLASSPATH, it's different in the terminal to what the "gnome-panel sees" :)
[04:06] <timothy_> pusling: Yes, I think. It says.. 'usb 3-5: new high speed USB device using address 8    usb 3-5: device not accepting address 8, error -71 ' then the same for address 9, 10, 11
[04:06] <eli> regebro: no, it is not obvious. For the moment it does for me, as I am adding applications.
[04:07] <pusling> timothy_: hmm... sounds not 'nice' to me
[04:07] <regebro> eli: And how to add mew menus?
[04:07] <regebro> mew/new. ;)
[04:08] <pusling> timothy_: I haven't seen it before. Try google for it...
[04:08] <timothy_> pusling: OK, thanks
[04:08] <eli> regebro: I think... you right click on panel and select Add to panel. Then you have a lot of options.
[04:08] <EvolutionR> Trying to play vcd. -xine engine error- There is no demuxer plugin available to handle
[04:08] <Parallax> DOES anyone installed KISMET on ubuntu ???
[04:08] <eli> Parallax: did you install kismet?
[04:09] <Parallax> i tried, but with no good results
[04:09] <Guardiann> EvolutionR look in synaptic for an avi player
[04:09] <EvolutionR> Trying to play vcd. -xine engine error- There is no demuxer plugin available to handle '/cdrom/mpegav/avseq01.dat'. Usually this means that the file format was not recognized. How? Using Xine-Ui!!!!
[04:09] <eli> Parallax: Using Synaptic or apt-get?
[04:10] <Guardiann> EvolutionR look in synaptic for an avi player
[04:10] <Parallax> apt-get and sources
[04:10] <Guardiann> or codec
[04:10] <EvolutionR> Guardiann: I already installed Xine-Ui ! but cant play vcds...maybe the codecs
[04:10] <eli> Parallax: I will be trying later on (but not today). Thanks.
[04:10] <EvolutionR> where to get win32 codecs?
[04:10] <Parallax> oki
[04:10] <regebro> eli: That way I can add new neu bars. But I don't want to, I want to add new menus to the Applications menu bar.
[04:11] <Guardiann> EvolutionR try looking in synaptic for avi stuff
[04:11] <Guardiann> xine needs it to work
[04:11] <gilles> when reconfiguring xfree, it says xserver-xfree86 is broken (btw, i thought ubuntu used xorg??), what can i do ?
[04:11] <pusling> EvolutionR: the w32codecs you need from marillat, I think
[04:12] <eli> regebro: I understand, but I dont know the answer to this.
[04:12] <EvolutionR> okie
[04:12] <Parallax> you haven't installed kismet on ubutu yet??
[04:12] <regebro> OK, no problems, eli. Thanks.
[04:13] <enrico> Hello.  I upraded from Warty to Hoary in a qemu image and now X can't find the video card anymore ("warning: couldn't open module cirrus_alpine").  I'd like to try rerunning hardware decection, how do I do that?
[04:13] <enrico> Or, is there a package with further xorg modules I need to install?
[04:14] <EvolutionR> pusling: I've installed apt-get install xine-ui. Xine-Ui doesn't come with win32 codecs rite? Have to apt-get install win32 codecs ?
[04:14] <shock> anyone want to try something fun: apt.get install dillo :D
[04:15] <pusling> enrico: how many segfaults did you get while installing warti in a qemu-update
[04:15] <shock> ugly but damn fast
[04:15] <eli> rebegro:
[04:15] <enrico> pusling: no segfaults at all, actually: I'm very impressed!
[04:15] <eli>  regebro: to edit the menu please try the following (worked in Gnome 2.6 AFAIK):
[04:15] <eli> 1. Open Up Nautilus
[04:15] <eli> 2. Enter applications:/// as URL
[04:15] <pusling> EvolutionR: I dont think w32codecs is in ubuntu
[04:15] <eli> 3. Change the menu to your liking.
[04:15] <pusling> enrico: I segfaulted 15 times during the install
[04:15] <enrico> Maybe I have a newer/better qemu
[04:16] <pusling> hmm... maybe. I use the one in debian testing
[04:16] <shock> fortunately I will never have to worry about w32codecs.... my apple is pretty w-anything-proof
[04:16] <shock> *g*
[04:16] <enrico> pusling: I use the one in debian sid
[04:17] <enrico> pusling: 0.6.1-1
[04:17] <pusling> enrico: but I_think it is the same verion
[04:17] <Guardiann> EvolutionR you still here
[04:18] <mjr> shock, heh :)
[04:18] <shock> :)
[04:18] <Guardiann> hmmm guess not
[04:19] <EvolutionR> pusling: Acording to ubuntuguide.org, How to install Multimedia Codecs but apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins, apt-get install w32codecs. Is this the correct way?
[04:19] <Guardiann> yes it is
[04:19] <EvolutionR> Guardiann: I'm still here, anything?
[04:19] <Guardiann> you can also use synaptic manager for those as well
[04:20] <Guardiann> w32codecs i dont believe will play your avi files
[04:20] <EvolutionR> synaptic manager, under which category?
[04:20] <Guardiann> see the serach buuton
[04:20] <Guardiann> press it and then type codecs
[04:20] <EvolutionR> ok
[04:20] <Guardiann> also do a search for avi
[04:20] <pusling> is w32codecs in ubuntu ?
[04:21] <Guardiann> yes you can install it
[04:21] <pusling> huh? in warty ?
[04:22] <EvolutionR> is apt-get update, and "Reload" Synaptic Manager the same as updating the repos?
[04:22] <Guardiann> yep even in warty :)
[04:22] <Guardiann> yes EcolutionR as far as I know
[04:22] <Guardiann> oops
[04:22] <Guardiann> c=v
[04:22] <Zindar> no.. w32codes is NOT in warty... but it can be installed in warty.. there is a difference
[04:23] <Guardiann> damm it anyway someone promissed Ubuntu would fix my spelling
[04:23] <Guardiann> Zindar thats what i have been saying
[04:23] <EvolutionR> Guardiann: is apt-get update, and "Reload" Synaptic Manager the same as updating the repos?
[04:23] <M3ta> 'promised'... guess not even Ubuntu can do miracles :)
[04:23] <pusling> EvolutionR: yes
[04:24] <Guardiann> :) yeah I guess not
[04:24] <netmonk> friends, I need urgent help! I typed metacity --replace and after I closed metacity I can close any program only trough the File menu, because the upper part of the window is not visible, please help!
 damm it anyway someone promissed Ubuntu would fix my spelling <--- I think your "spelling" has something to do with your fingers
[04:25] <Guardiann> shock damm you think??
[04:25] <EvolutionR> what if I apt-get update, then I install packages from synaptic...is the synaptic side will be updated as well?
[04:25] <pusling> EvolutionR: yeap. Same files. synaptic is just a fancy frontend to apt
[04:26] <EvolutionR> pusling: thanks. it puzzles me b4
[04:26] <EvolutionR> pusling: u use xine ui?
[04:27] <pusling> EvolutionR: nope. only once.
[04:28] <EvolutionR> pusling: the weird part is I can play the VCD thru Xine-Ui from the "Play List" "VCD" menu, but It can't be play when I choose open file...
[04:29] <pusling> hmmm... no clue
[04:29] <EvolutionR> Trying to play vcd. -xine engine error- There is no demuxer plugin available to handle
[04:29] <EvolutionR> that's the error
[04:29] <EvolutionR> do I need to download that plugin
[04:30] <Guardiann> hmmm
[04:32] <spiral> hi
[04:34] <shock> hoi
[04:34] <EvolutionR> what is gstreamer0.8-plugins for which player is it for Xine-Ui?
[04:35] <sj> xine-lib is for xine-ui
[04:35] <sj> gstreamer, right now, is most commonly for programs such as totem and rhythmbox
[04:35] <EvolutionR> oic
[04:36] <EvolutionR> is there any plugins for Xine-Ui?
[04:36] <EvolutionR> Trying to play vcxine engine error- There is no demuxer plugin available to handle
[04:36] <mjr> yes, mostly they come in libxine
[04:36] <mjr> some might be available outside it
[04:37] <EvolutionR> Try to play from Open > File > .dat -xine engine error- There is no demuxer plugin available to handle
[04:37] <sj> have you done a search for 'xine'  in Synaptic ?
[04:39] <pusling> apt-get install cmd.exe ;)
[04:39] <EvolutionR> pusling: are u kidding?
[04:39] <Hwolf> My printer does not print anymore, and I have no clue why. Can anyone help?
[04:39] <EvolutionR> Hwolf: in Linux or Windows?
[04:40] <Hwolf> EvolutionR, what do you think?
[04:40] <pusling> u
[04:41] <pusling> EvolutionR: yeah... ;)
[04:41] <pusling> apt-get moo << that is funny ;)
[04:41] <pusling> (Killer feature in apt)<
[04:42] <Hwolf> correction: I can print from openoffice, not from firefox
[04:44] <EvolutionR> pusling: apt-get moo? want to get Gentoo ? LOL @_o
[04:44] <pusling> EvolutionR: oh no - that is apt-get install gentoo
[04:44] <EvolutionR> Firefox did u set correctly ?
[04:45] <Zindar> hwolf: you probably just haven't set the printers name correctly in firefox...
[04:45] <EvolutionR> Yeah somewhere preferences or options
[04:45] <Hwolf> zindar: previously it worked out-of-box on this machine, same printer/driver
[04:45] <lamont_r> Hwolf: printing with latest hoary works fine for me...
[04:45] <lamont_r> well, near-latest
[04:46] <Hwolf> lamont_r: Warty is fucked up for me. I need it to work on Warty
[04:46] <Kagamon> hey all
[04:46] <Zindar> works fine for me in warty also
[04:46] <Kagamon> what's the default font format with Ubuntu (linuxes)
[04:46] <lamont_r> Hwolf: was working in warty for me up until late december when I installed hoary
[04:46] <Kagamon> also where are fonts generally installed to?
[04:47] <lamont_r> (where it also works...)
[04:47] <mjr> Kagamon, nowadays ttf fonts are pretty much the standard with modern desktop environments
[04:47] <mjr> /usr/share/fonts, I believe; per-user fonts may be put into ~/.fonts
[04:47] <mjr> (for fontconfig-aware applications)
[04:47] <Kagamon> mjr: I was reading this link which states you need to jump through some hoops to make it work: http://www.freeos.com/articles/2390/
[04:47] <Hwolf> lamont_r: do you have any idea as to what could cause this?
[04:48] <mjr> Kagamon, note the date on that article
[04:48] <lamont_r> Hwolf: no - but that's not really my area of knowledege either...
[04:48] <EvolutionR> I've installed apt-get install Xine Ui (0.99.3), how to upgrade to Xine Ui 1.0 version?
[04:48] <Kagamon> good point ;)
[04:48] <Kagamon> what is a "fontconfig-aware application"?
[04:49] <mjr> Kagamon, pretty much everything modern (gnome and kde apps included), except openoffice :(
[04:49] <EvolutionR> Hwolf: why not upgrade to Hoary? maybe it can solve ur problem!
[04:49] <mjr> (at least the warty version of oo.o)
[04:49] <jamin_l> bah under the wrong nick here\
[04:50] <jamin_l> what do you need to do to make OO recognize fonts other than default ones?
[04:51] <EvolutionR> Hwolf: why not upgrade to Hoary? maybe it can solve ur problem! Any idea how to upgrade...I'm quite new to this apt-get...?
[04:51] <Hwolf> EvolutionR: Last 2 times I tried it fucked me up.
[04:51] <EvolutionR> Hwolf: sorry wrong paste!
[04:51] <EvolutionR> :)
[04:51] <Hwolf> evolutionR: go to /etc/apt/sources.list and replace all warty's with hoary's
[04:52] <Hwolf> evoltionR: apt-get update && apt-get DIST-upgrade
[04:52] <EvolutionR> sorry no it not my actuall question I'm already on Hoary
[04:52] <EvolutionR> I paste the wrong one's sorry
[04:52] <mjr> jamin_l, don't know that; recommend googling around
[04:53] <mjr> oo.o does use ttf fonts, of course, it just has its very own mechanism for getting them to be available
[04:53] <mjr> I do hope 2.0 will fix that
[04:53] <mjr> haven't checked, though
[04:53] <E0x> hello
[04:53] <EvolutionR> I've apt-get install xine-ui (0.99.3), but I wanted to upgrade to version 1.0, but how to I upgrade using apt-get?
[04:54] <jamin_l> been living in Ubuntu for a few weeks now... must say though... that I'm very impressed & happy with it
[04:54] <neofeed> I want to listen on 1337 for incoming data ... so I though using inetd was right and did: '1337 stream tcp nowait root /bin/netcat > /tmp/test'
[04:54] <neofeed> but that does not work, i get: inetd[xxxxxx]  execv netcat: No such file or directory
[04:54] <jamin_l> now if only I didn't have to go work on a Dell desktop with Win XP that terminal servers into Win 2000
[04:55] <EvolutionR> jamin_l:u using Hoary? I just use Ubuntu last few days. Hoary make me happy, but not Warthy. Warthy wont even let me surf net.
[04:55] <jamin_l> Warty
[04:55] <jamin_l> the other box is on Hoary
[04:55] <mjr> jamin_l, well, I don't know if this'll make you feel much better, but you might be able to use the w2k with rdesktop from ubuntu ;P
[04:56] <jamin_l> i didn't say i liked win2k :P
[04:56] <jamin_l> i said i'm forced to use it on a Dull
[04:56] <E0x> with the ubuntu live cd , before start the load of OS i can set intruction for use a specific horizontal and vertical frequency ?
[04:57] <jamin_l> yes mine is dual-booted the same one too, mjr...
[04:57] <f> hi
[04:57] <jamin_l> after about 3 tries of making a dual-boot system of course :D
[04:57] <EvolutionR> Hwolf: I've apt-get install xine-ui (0.99.3), but I wanted to upgrade to version 1.0, but how to I upgrade using apt-get?
[04:57] <f> some1 told me to edit ~/.bashrc
[04:57] <f> where is it?
[04:57] <f> how do I edit it?
[04:57] <f> i'm a noob
[04:58] <Zindar> "nano -w ~/.bashrc
[04:58] <Zindar> "
[04:58] <EvolutionR> what's a noob means?
[04:58] <Zindar> without the quote's
[04:58] <jamin_l> newbie
[04:58] <CreeVal> newbie
[04:58] <CreeVal> :P
[04:58] <EvolutionR> :P okie! hehhe
[04:58] <jamin_l> :P yourself... be quicker on the draw
[04:58] <Zindar> or.. gedit ~/.bashrc
[04:58] <Zindar> :)
[04:58] <f> thx zindar!
[04:58] <EvolutionR> can anyone help me on this...I've apt-get install xine-ui (0.99.3), but I wanted to upgrade to version 1.0, but how to I upgrade using apt-get?
[04:59] <Zindar> evolution: depends... is 1.0 in your apt-repository?
[04:59] <f> add another apt repository
[04:59] <f> and upgrade
[04:59] <EvolutionR> Zindar: how to check?
[04:59] <f> in synaptic
[05:00] <Zindar> evolution: run "apt-get install xine-ui"
[05:00] <CreeVal> There's a great difference between a Newbie and a n00b... Newbies want to learn, have great willpower and listens when you tell them things... n00bs on the other hand lack these things and often talk 1337...
[05:00] <Zindar> if it updates it.. you have it... if not.. you don't
[05:00] <EvolutionR> I've added the repos to get xine-ui, but duno about 1.0
[05:00] <f> settings-repositories
[05:00] <f> u need to add a repository with 1.0 on it
[05:00] <Zindar> evolution: why did you add repos for xine-ui.. which one?
[05:01] <Zindar> don't add anything outside of warty unless you want to risk breaking your ubuntu... :)
[05:01] <EvolutionR> I've installed xine-ui 0.99.3 tru the repos....but I dont know version 1.0 is on that repos!
[05:01] <Zindar> evolution: which repo?
[05:01] <Zindar> did you add?
[05:01] <f> right click, mark upgrade
[05:01] <EvolutionR> erm wait
[05:02] <Zindar> evolution: in general... stay with whatever version is in warty
[05:02] <Zindar> wait until hoary is released
[05:02] <Zindar> update your computer
[05:02] <Zindar> :)
[05:02] <f> is msn down or something?
[05:02] <f> i can't connect
[05:02] <f> is msn down for u guys also?
[05:02] <Guardiann> msn??
[05:02] <EvolutionR>  deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ warty multiverse
[05:02] <EvolutionR> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ warty multiverse
[05:02] <EvolutionR> deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ stable main
[05:02] <EvolutionR> deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main
[05:02] <EvolutionR> deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ testing main
[05:02] <f> MSN
[05:02] <f> MSN messenger
[05:02] <Zindar> evolution: if you get something newer than 0.99.1 you are outside of warty
[05:03] <mrbig> hi
[05:03] <EvolutionR> I think this repos
[05:03] <EvolutionR> I'm on hoary repos
[05:03] <Zindar> f: what makes you think anyone here uses a microsoft standard?
[05:03] <EvolutionR> I'm on hoary repos
[05:03] <Zindar> evolution: ehh.. you's deb-lines above says warty
[05:03] <EvolutionR> oppps
[05:03] <EvolutionR> sorry
[05:03] <terraces> I'm trying to setup networking on vmware with ubuntu host using wifi on a lan. Someone already done it ?
[05:03] <Zindar> evolution: why do you want 1.0?
[05:03] <E0x> with the ubuntu live cd , before start the load of OS i can set intruction for use a specific horizontal and vertical frequency ?
[05:03] <EvolutionR> I've copy on that ubuntuguide.org
[05:03] <EvolutionR> I've copy on that ubuntuguide.org
[05:04] <EvolutionR> sorry
[05:04] <EvolutionR> wait
[05:04] <delltony> question once you setup tvout with flgrxconfig how in the heck do you change between monitors?
[05:04] <Zindar> evolution: don't update to hoary unless you are willing to break your ubuntu :)
[05:04] <mrbig> im using wifi and work great..
[05:04] <Zindar> stay with warty
[05:04] <mrbig> never try to use vmware
[05:04] <f> vmware is slow
[05:04] <f> just use the livecd
[05:05] <f> yo! can u guys connect to MSN with GAIM?
[05:05] <mrbig> i prefferd warty...
[05:05] <f> messenger, not the website
[05:05] <mrbig> hoary es to unstable...
[05:05] <EvolutionR> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe
[05:05] <EvolutionR>  deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe
[05:05] <EvolutionR>  deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security main restricted
[05:05] <EvolutionR>  deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security main restricted
[05:05] <EvolutionR>  deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary multiverse
[05:05] <EvolutionR>  deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary multiverse
[05:05] <EvolutionR>  deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ stable main
[05:05] <EvolutionR>  deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main
[05:05] <EvolutionR>  deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ testing main
[05:05] <Zindar> f: give up.. nobody here uses msn....
[05:05] <EvolutionR> that's the repos~
[05:05] <EvolutionR> is that okie to upgrade to xine ui 1.0?
[05:06] <CreeVal> I use MSN Zindar
[05:06] <Zindar> evolution: congratulations.. you risk breaking your ubuntu... but sure.. go ahead... no accounting for what happens
[05:06] <Zindar> well.. ok.. someone... but asking 1000's of times doesn't help
[05:06] <CreeVal> No of course
[05:06] <CreeVal> not
[05:06] <f> Zindar, what IM do u use?
[05:06] <EvolutionR> Zindar: okie  then I stay on the older version!
[05:07] <Zindar> the only thing you need from it is w32codec.. the rest is in multiverse
[05:07] <Zindar> f: who says I use a IM?
[05:07] <f> U use IRC only?
[05:07] <Zindar> f: irc, icq, skype and jabber :)
[05:08] <f> ok
[05:09] <EvolutionR> ON hoary, what apps the best for MSN messenger ?
[05:09] <rubenv> gaim
[05:09] <EvolutionR> version?
[05:09] <rubenv> whatever version
[05:10] <EvolutionR> :)
[05:10] <f> yo zindar, can u add my ICQ?
[05:11] <f> because I"m  a noob and I think I'm gonna need some help.
[05:11] <EvolutionR> how come my weather report applet, when I click update it display 1 hour b4 the current weather? Then what's the weather report 4? Is past tense? Any idea on this?
[05:11] <EvolutionR> f: stay to this channel u can get help!
[05:11] <EvolutionR> am I rite Zindar?
[05:12] <f> I like using gaim
[05:12] <f> IRC is a bit confusing for me
[05:12] <jamin_l> ok i'm heading back to bed... i was technically only up to get a drink of water ;)
[05:12] <f> anyways
[05:12] <f> I'll be here from now on.
[05:12] <EvolutionR> how come my weather report applet, when I click update it display 1 hour b4 the current weather? Then what's the weather report 4? Is past tense? Any idea on this?
[05:13] <EvolutionR> weather report 2.9.5
[05:13] <f> erm, how do u change ur nickname in X-Chat?
[05:13] <thread> /nick blarg
[05:13] <EvolutionR> f: u talking to who?
[05:13] <f> every1
[05:13] <wk1989> ok
[05:14] <wk1989> thread: thanx!
[05:14] <wk1989> i changed my nick
[05:14] <EvolutionR> anyone use the weather report applet???????????
[05:14] <klaym> what's that thing that is on your desktop and tells your processor
[05:14] <wk1989> EvolutionR: I use it and it works perfectly!
[05:14] <klaym> what's that thing that is on your desktop and tells your processor's speed, RAM usage, disk usade, etc?
[05:15] <klaym> argh
[05:15] <wk1989> klaym: I think it's gdesklets
[05:15] <wk1989> it's gdesklets
[05:15] <klaym> ok. apt-get gdesklets?
[05:15] <wk1989> use synaptic
[05:15] <klaym> ok
[05:15] <wk1989> also installed gdesklets-data
[05:15] <EvolutionR> wk1989: when u update the weather report does it show the current time report or report of the weather like 1 hour before?
[05:15] <wk1989> wait a sec
[05:15] <EvolutionR> ok
[05:16] <regebro> I would like a "Command prompt here" type of menu for the file manager. Anybody know of anything like that?
[05:16] <wk1989> It shows the weather of an hour ago
[05:17] <regebro> I'm trying to search for "nautilus open shell here" but i only get pages about the Nautilus shell. Yes, the animal, not the program. ;)
[05:17] <EvolutionR> wk1989: who wants the weather of 1 hour rite? if any weather report applet that reports future weather like tomorrows weather b3 like / 1 hour after
[05:18] <wk1989> ya
[05:18] <wk1989> maybe it's not for forecasting
[05:19] <EvolutionR> I think they should do a weather report of something like that "Future" forecasting
[05:19] <wk1989> ya
[05:19] <wk1989> that would be good
[05:19] <EvolutionR> it should be kewl
[05:19] <Guardiann> thats what the weather channel is for :)
[05:19] <wk1989> u can also use the weather display in gdesklets
[05:19] <rubenv> it's mentioned on live.gnome.org
[05:19] <EvolutionR> what's gdesklets?
[05:19] <EvolutionR> I am noob
[05:19] <Petaris> Has anyone else had an issue with evolution-data- eating tons of physical RAM?
[05:19] <rubenv> go help them out with weather.gnome.org if you want it
[05:20] <wk1989> gdesklets and gkrellm can do that
[05:20] <EvolutionR> k
[05:20] <wk1989> google for it
[05:20] <EvolutionR> u mean gdesklets can forecasts future weather?
[05:20] <wk1989> it's a program that lets u install "displays"
[05:20] <wk1989> on ur desktop
[05:21] <EvolutionR> If yes I will remove the Weather Report , is useless for me! but the design is kewl
[05:21] <EvolutionR> Oic!
[05:21] <Hannes__> http://tigert.gimp.org/aviation/vatsim/cockpit-stuff/NW-A330-seat.jpg <-yay
[05:21] <EvolutionR> Hannes__: what
[05:21] <EvolutionR> that
[05:22] <wk1989> gdesklets is a pain to set up
[05:22] <Hannes__> EvolutionR: "Please wait while the seat is rebooting" :)
[05:22] <wk1989> i'm still trying to figure stuff out
[05:22] <wk1989> lol
[05:23] <EvolutionR> rubenv: no website for weather.gnome.org !
[05:23] <wk1989> EvolutionR: here's a screenshot of gdesklets in acition
[05:23] <wk1989> http://www.gnome.org/~chrisime/random/pix/gDesklets.png
[05:23] <EvolutionR> thanks!
[05:24] <wk1989> Hannes__: is that ur car?
[05:24] <wk1989> wk1989: d
[05:24] <wk1989> in IRC, how do u talk to some1, is it like "username: dsfsdaf"
[05:24] <wk1989> ?
[05:25] <wk1989> yo EvolutionR, add my MSN!
[05:25] <Zindar> wk1989: private? /msg user blaha
[05:25] <EvolutionR> wk1989: will the CPU info , Ram info....etc run on the desktop all of the time. Will consume more CPU usage and memory?
[05:25] <wk1989> ethx
[05:26] <wk1989> a bit of memory
[05:26] <wk1989> like 5-10 mb
[05:28] <NanoTek> when gaim will be up to date in warty or backport ?
[05:29] <Petaris> Has anyone else had an issue with evolution-data- eating tons of physical RAM?
[05:29] <EvolutionR> 5-10 MB there's alot man!
[05:29] <wk1989> that's not really a lot, considering u're monitoring a lot of stuff
[05:30] <wk1989> I have 512 physical memory+256 virtual, so that's not a problem for me
[05:32] <space_oddity> hello
[05:32] <raydogg``> how do you install the kernel source in ubuntu ?
[05:32] <raydogg``> so that i can build a kernel module ( vmware )
[05:32] <space_oddity> 1 sec.
[05:32] <space_oddity> open a terminal
[05:32] <space_oddity> and do an
[05:33] <space_oddity> apt-get update
[05:33] <space_oddity> then
[05:33] <space_oddity> apt-get install linux-source-2.6.10
[05:33] <Petaris> raydog``: you will need to patch (most likly) vmware to work with a newer kernel
[05:33] <space_oddity> but you can also download the kernel source from www.kernel.org
[05:33] <Petaris> raydog``: don't do what space_oddity said
[05:34] <Petaris> raydog``: vmware will NOT work with 2.6.10
[05:34] <space_oddity> i used vmware with kernel 2.6.8 with no patch
[05:34] <Petaris> not unless they just released support for it
[05:34] <space_oddity> what version of vmware?
[05:34] <space_oddity> I used the last one...
[05:35] <Petaris> 4.5
[05:35] <space_oddity> think i'ts 4.5.2
[05:35] <Petaris> can't remember the build
[05:35] <space_oddity> anyway
[05:35] <Petaris> I just did it a couple weeks ago so its prabably the newest
[05:36] <space_oddity> I didn't have any problems with kernel 2.6 just a message from vmware that told me that kernel 2.6 is not fully supported
[05:36] <raydogg``> sorry if i sound like a newb on the kernel source, i am used to mandrake and urpmi ( its just urpmi kernel-source )
[05:36] <space_oddity> Oh!
[05:36] <raydogg``> Have you guys been able to go full screen with vmware ?
[05:36] <Petaris> yeah
[05:36] <Petaris> I have
[05:37] <space_oddity> you need to change vmware-config.py
[05:37] <raydogg``> have to do anything special to turn dri on ?
[05:37] <space_oddity> don't know... :-(
[05:37] <Petaris> I don't use dri
[05:37] <Petaris> just glx
[05:38] <raydogg``> how come when i tried to run glxgears it said the display device was null ( tried running it from a console )
[05:39] <space_oddity> glxinfo | grep rendering
[05:39] <space_oddity> does it say "Yes"?
[05:39] <raydogg``> i'm not in ubuntu right now
[05:39] <raydogg``> i'm in windows :-(
[05:40] <space_oddity> mmm
[05:40] <raydogg``> have to do work in windows and wasn't able to get vmware working in time
[05:40] <Petaris> haha
[05:40] <raydogg``> will have to try these things later
[05:40] <Petaris> by the way, you need to have X running to use glxgears
[05:40] <raydogg``> i did
[05:41] <raydogg``> i was in gnome
[05:41] <Petaris> hrm
[05:41] <regebro> Is there a way to change the scroll amount for the mouse scroll-wheel. It scrolls half a page now, wich I found completely useless.
[05:41] <Petaris> were you loging in as root?
[05:41] <raydogg``> i've never had that problem before, it does it on the live cd too
[05:41] <raydogg``> for me
[05:41] <raydogg``> no
[05:41] <Petaris> hrm
[05:42] <raydogg``> doesn't do it on other distros tho
[05:42] <Petaris> were you in a terminal in gnome?
[05:42] <raydogg``> y
[05:42] <raydogg``> gnome terminal
[05:42] <Petaris> logged in as that same user
[05:42] <raydogg``> y
[05:42] <Petaris> ?
[05:42] <raydogg``> y = yes
[05:42] <raydogg``> sorry
[05:42] <Petaris> hrm, it should have workied unless glx is not running
[05:42] <Petaris> nVidia card?
[05:43] <raydogg``> ati 9700
[05:43] <ToZ> hi
[05:43] <ToZ> there are a chanel of ubuntu in french ?
[05:45] <EvolutionR> anybody use Gdesklets?
[05:45] <Petaris> raydogg``: I'm off for a while, bbl
[05:45] <utis> hello
[05:47] <utis> I want to mount an iso image. On the web I found that I shoud type "mount -o loop ISO-IMAGE MOUNTPOINT"
[05:47] <utis> But I get the error message that there is no device /dev/loop
[05:47] <utis> Any hints?
[05:48] <EvolutionR> in Hoary is there any CD burning software that I can burn a vcd....meaning to say wanna copy VCD to a CD
[05:48] <Hwolf> What could cause me being unable to print from FF, when it does work from OO.o, in warty?
[05:48] <utis> IOW: has the loop back device on Ubuntu a different name? Or do I have to do something to enable it?
[05:49] <jcoxon77> hi everyone
[05:51] <EvolutionR> Hwolf: any burning software that I can burn a VCD to CD? Hoary !
[05:51] <M3ta> apt-get install k3b
[05:51] <Hwolf> EvolutionR, I have no clue
[05:51] <EvolutionR> M3ta: so get k3b? does Hoary included?
[05:52] <M3ta> I really do not understand your grammar, but if you are asking if it's included in the repos, yes it is.
[05:52] <EvolutionR> M3ta: sorry for my poor english :)
[05:53] <EvolutionR> M3ta: let's say I've installed apt-get k3b old version...how to upgrade to new version? what's the command for it?
[05:54] <utis> Hmm, https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/LTSPHowTo recommends the same command. Did something with my installation go wrong that I don't have /dev/loop?
[05:54] <hitu> hey does Nvidia 6629 version drivers install on Ubuntu ?
[05:56] <Sandking> hi - i just installed ubuntu on my toshiba laptop and got some newbies questions - first - why when i try to setup network it starts loading and then goes nothing? second - where should i config my audio? (it was a bit simple in suse, kde, but gnome kills me :)
[05:58] <utis> Alright. "modprobe loop" as root solved it.
[05:59] <EvolutionR> Sandking: IMHO, think is in Desktop>Admin>Sound
[06:00] <EvolutionR> let's say I've installed apt-get k3b old version...how to upgrade to new version? what's the command for it?
[06:03] <Guardiann> EvolutionR what version are you running
[06:03] <EvolutionR> Guardiann: just want to ask how to upgrade that's it example only :)
[06:03] <Guardiann> ok
[06:04] <EvolutionR> Sandking: u find the sound config?
[06:04] <Sandking> rebooting :] 
[06:04] <Sandking> i found this simple snd config but im looking for some alsa
[06:04] <EvolutionR> Guardiann: if u , say like to upgrade certain apps, wat kind of command u use?
[06:04] <Sandking> when i ran alsamixer it got some problems
[06:05] <EvolutionR> Sandking: sorry I noob, can't help u on alsa
[06:05] <Guardiann> if you apt-get update
[06:05] <EvolutionR> okie
[06:05] <Guardiann> it gets the newest
[06:05] <Sandking> EvolutionR: im a noob too :D
[06:06] <shock> i am not
[06:06] <EvolutionR> Guardiaan: u mean I type apt-get install old version apps, next time there is a new version, so I type apt-get install older version apps again?
[06:06] <shock> have i won a cookie now?
[06:06] <EvolutionR> it upgrade itself?
[06:07] <Guardiann> you apt-get update
[06:07] <EvolutionR> Sandking: :)
[06:07] <EvolutionR> okie
[06:07] <Guardiann> if there are newer versions they install
[06:07] <klaym> EvolutionR: you just type sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:07] <Sandking> it looks like some things just wont run - i just tried to run root console because at boot it said that it cant find an internet address for my computer (sic! ?) and to check /etc/hosts. so i tried to run root console.
[06:07] <klaym> every once in a while. that's system maintenance  la ubuntu
[06:07] <Sandking> i try basic console and log in as root
[06:07] <EvolutionR> klaym: well thats it clear my mind! thanks! to all who help
[06:08] <Sandking> [anyway - why installer didnt asked me about root passwd?] 
[06:08] <klaym> np.
[06:08] <EvolutionR> Sandking: is warthy u running? Warthy give alot of trouble when connection to PPPoE
[06:08] <bendebian> does somebody usese ubuntu hoary and have a working xinerama-configuration?
[06:08] <Sandking> yeah, fresh warthy - just downloaded and burned
[06:09] <Sandking> or is it not the newest one?
[06:09] <Sandking> shit - what is the root passwd if installer didn't even asked me about it?
[06:10] <shock> no root
[06:10] <shock> "sudo bash"
[06:10] <EvolutionR> Sandking: there's not root account for it
[06:10] <EvolutionR> Sandking: u have to give ur normal account userpassword for it!
[06:11] <EvolutionR> Sandking : just use use Apps>
[06:11] <EvolutionR> Sandking : just use use Apps> Sys Tools> Root Terminal
[06:11] <Sandking> < unable to lookup "mycomp" via gethostbyname() > wtf?
[06:11] <EvolutionR> it solve ur trouble
[06:11] <Sandking> root terminal doesnt launch
[06:12] <EvolutionR> what u did to make it doesnt launch?
[06:12] <shock> hm
[06:13] <shock> I have a weird problem here.... cant rename files on desktop - it wont give the real keyboard foukus to the files
[06:13] <Sandking> i click on icon, then this silly circle goes around, then its good ole pointer and nothing
[06:13] <shock> sandking: start a normal terminal
[06:13] <shock> and enter
[06:13] <shock> sudo bash
[06:13] <shock> *yourpassword*
[06:13] <shock> voila: root terminal
[06:14] <EvolutionR> klaym: I've installed the apt-get install w32codecs...actually will it automatically make other Xine, Mplayer , Totem w32codecs available?
[06:14] <markuman> sandking: sudo passwd root
[06:14] <markuman> there you can choice a root pwd
[06:14] <Sandking> ok, thx
[06:14] <Sandking> can somebody show me how should /etc/hosts. look like?
[06:15] <markuman> /etc/hosts ????
[06:15] <EvolutionR> markuman: do everytime have to sudo passwd root when need to run as root?
[06:15] <klaym> EvolutionR: I'm not sure. along with w32codecs I've installed gstreamer and totem-xine. with those all videos work.
[06:15] <Hwolf> What could cause me being unable to print from FF, when it does work from OO.o, in warty?
[06:16] <EvolutionR> klyam: ok
[06:16] <Sandking> markuman : yep :] 
[06:16] <Sandking> markuman: is it wrong?
[06:16] <EvolutionR> Sandking: sudo gedit /etc/hosts
[06:16] <Sandking> oh, and where are the acpi settings
[06:17] <Sandking> EvolutionR: i know my hosts, but i wonder how should it look like - i got only some ip address
[06:18] <plusch> Hi. I installed Ubuntu Warty using English as the default-language. I'd like a second user be able to use German as their interface-language. What do I have to do to get this working?
[06:19] <markuman> EvolutionR, i don't understand you question/statemant
[06:19] <robodex> hello
[06:19] <plusch> ("dpkg-reconfigure locales" only doesn't work, as when logging in, the system always complains about the language not being supported...)
[06:20] <EvolutionR> markuman: I mean when I run as normal terminal, once I've type the sudo passwd root, then close it, open the normal terminal again, do I need to reenter those commands?
[06:21] <robodex> I have a silly question.... I just recently reinstalled ubuntu (did something really stupid and completely screwed the install, it was easier to just reinstall the entire OS) and I've noticed I can't get to 1024x768 anymore even though I was able to before... I've checked my XFree86.0.log and it says 1024x768 isn't supported by my GPU, but I know it is because I was using it before. I have the nvidia-glx drivers installed, which didn't give me any problems
[06:21] <robodex>  before... The config is set so 1024x768 (and 1152x864, which is also supported) are selectable but i can't change my rez to 1024... any ideas?
[06:21] <robodex> sorry I'm a but of a linux noob :P
[06:22] <robodex> it was working fine yesterday, btw, I just reinstalled this morning
[06:22] <markuman> EvolutionR, no, one time is enough. then you can type: su | and have to enter the root pwd and you have a root terminal like in other distributions
[06:22] <klaym> robodex: do a search at www.ubuntuforums.org. I know the answer lays there because I found the solution to the exact problem from there
[06:23] <klaym> you need to edit some file and add your monitor details there
[06:23] <png> NTFS-fs warning (device 21:01): parse_options(): Option iocharset is deprecated.
[06:23] <png> Please use option nls=<charsetname> in the future. .  what does this mean ?
[06:23] <EvolutionR> klaym: I've installed the w32codecs, xine-ui, open my mozilla firefox 1.0 , try to open the apple movie trailers, the website does not load "saying click here to download plugin" but when I click it, it show no download. Install manually.
[06:23] <robodex> hmm. I think I know the thread you're talking about, Ill check it out although I did'nt have to do anything special last time
[06:24] <klaym> EvolutionR: I still have the same problem actually. :)
[06:24] <markuman> what are you trying to watch/listen?
[06:25] <Sandking> could somebody give me an example of /etc/hosts. ? ubuntu tells me right after login that i should add my comp name to the file - i did it and it tells the same thing again
[06:25] <EvolutionR> I think if wanted to play apple trailers on the website I think we need the either Mplayer or GXINE of not mistaken
[06:25] <klaym> if you get your codecs up you can always play videostreams from the net on totem, xine-ui or some other player
[06:26] <klaym> but I don't know how to make firefox understand videoformats either :P I'm new to ubuntu too
[06:26] <markuman> hm
[06:27] <EvolutionR> klaym: I've install the codecs, xine-ui, but how to run it on xine-ui, any idea?
[06:27] <markuman> show me the stream link, i will try it here
[06:27] <EvolutionR> http://www.apple.com/trailers/fox/fantastic_four/FF_small.html
[06:28] <klaym> if you go to the video url, ff will ask you if you'd like to view the video on totem or to download it
[06:28] <EvolutionR> klaym: Previously on other Distro, I've found out the solution to it, u need to install the Gxine and the respective plugins (mozplugin), in order to run it on firefox!
[06:29] <markuman> have you try| mozilla-plugin-vlc | quicktime-utils | quicktime-x11utils | ?
[06:29] <EvolutionR> klyam: okie
[06:29] <robodex> could it possibly be the nvidia drivers that's my problem? I remember using some sort of config app that let me edit the resolutions/refresh rates but I can't remember what it was :X
[06:29] <klaym> yea, I've installed mozplugin but it doesn't seem to work
[06:29] <EvolutionR> markuman: ur firefox can play the streams?
[06:30] <snowblink> Sandking: is your hostname set?
[06:30] <EvolutionR> klaym: have u try the GXine?
[06:30] <EvolutionR> or mplayer
[06:30] <Sandking> snowblink: well i done it on startup i thinka
[06:30] <EvolutionR> maybe that can help
[06:30] <markuman> no, but i will try it
[06:30] <Sandking> snowblink: in hostnames it its
[06:30] <klaym> no
[06:30] <EvolutionR> try Gxine
[06:31] <EvolutionR> I remember it work
[06:31] <klaym> ok. so does it work for you? :)
[06:31] <EvolutionR> IMHO
[06:31] <snowblink> Sandking: and is it the same name in your hosts file 127.0.0.1?
[06:31] <EvolutionR> I dont have Gxine install rite now
[06:31] <EvolutionR> I'm figuring is there anyother way for it
[06:32] <EvolutionR> snowblink: I think I've the same problem like Sandking remember? the hosts thing?
[06:32] <snowblink> EvolutionR: ah, was it you? How did you sort it out?
[06:32] <robodex> would it work better if I installed the nvidia drivers manually? (as in, the ones from the nvidia website?)
[06:33] <Sandking> snowblink: at first in hosts there was "127.0.0.1 localhost" then i added line with my hostname (debian-laptop), then i deleted the first line but either this or that didnt helped
[06:34] <EvolutionR> snowblink: I think have to change my hostname like "mypenguin" reboot it, I forgot, somehow show me the commands!
[06:34] <moquist> um, is there a way to get apache+php working without micking around in config files?  I feel sure that I'm just doing it the hard way...
[06:34] <EvolutionR> something like 127.0.0.1 .....mypengui ..... save it reboot it
[06:34] <snowblink> Sandking: 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost <your hostname>
[06:34] <EvolutionR> is that the Sandking problem?
[06:35] <snowblink> EvolutionR: dunno. Guess we try and see.
[06:35] <EvolutionR> yeah!
[06:35] <markuman> now i think the apple stuff work!
[06:35] <kleedrac> Anyone ever have an issue with Cedega where Starcraft will install/patch fine but at the "Loading" screen the music keeps playing but the game doesn't load?
[06:36] <EvolutionR> markumna: how u did it?????????????
[06:36] <markuman> but my router doesn't want to play with me :-D
[06:36] <EvolutionR> show us!
[06:36] <Sandking> snowblink: just write it as you did? (im a noob :)
[06:36] <_cds> anyone got a fix for "FATAL: module hid not found" yet?
[06:36] <_cds> on install
[06:36] <snowblink> Sandking: yeah, but add your own hostname
[06:36] <Sandking> ok
[06:37] <markuman> have you install " libquicktime1 " i think you need it
[06:37] <EvolutionR> markuman: how to play the apple stuff on firefox?
[06:37] <EvolutionR> can u play on firefox?????????
[06:37] <stuNNed> EvolutionR: mplayerplug-in
[06:37] <EvolutionR> need  firefox plugin?
[06:37] <EvolutionR> stuNNed: I dont have Mplayer install, instead I have xine-ui installed
[06:38] <stuNNed> EvolutionR: use gxine then
[06:38] <stuNNed> EvolutionR: gxine has plugin
[06:38] <EvolutionR> nah u see I know is gxine
[06:38] <stuNNed> what?
[06:38] <EvolutionR> stuNNed: <EvolutionR> try Gxine
 I remember it work
 ok. so does it work for you? :)
 IMHO
[06:39] <Sandking> oh, and one thing - never before any linux was having trouble with pnp in bios but ubuntu seems to have some issues. do i have to change bios settings or leave it alone?
[06:39] <markuman> http://home.arcor.de/sip85/hier0.gif
[06:39] <markuman> i think my router don't like the stream
[06:39] <EvolutionR> stuNNed: <EvolutionR> klaym: Previously on other Distro, I've found out the solution to it, u need to install the Gxine and the respective plugins (mozplugin), in order to run it on firefox!
[06:39] <snowblink> Sandking: Are you having PNP issues? Mine harps about it when it starts, but I've not had any actual problems.
[06:40] <stuNNed> EvolutionR: gxine works here.
[06:40] <EvolutionR> :)
[06:40] <Sandking> snowblink: yeah, the same - just burps something in logs and thats all
[06:40] <EvolutionR> what I've have Xine-Ui,,, now I need to install that Gxine? any other way?
[06:40] <snowblink> Sandking: wouldn't worry too much about it then. :)
[06:40] <Sandking> snowblink: your advice works! :]  now to sound and network :] 
[06:41] <snowblink> Sandking: cool.
[06:41] <Sandking> snowblink: thanks
[06:41] <snowblink> Sandking: np
[06:41] <markuman> EvolutionR, are you seeing the green plugin stuff in your firefox?
[06:42] <Sandking> snowblink: as i thought - all this shit that net cnfg and root terminal wont work was connected to primary problem with localhost
[06:42] <EvolutionR> markuman: yes I saw the green stuff in the FF
[06:43] <EvolutionR> markuman: I saw ur FF with "no picture"
[06:43] <Sandking> ok, net is working!  yipee! :] 
[06:43] <markuman> you have the same as i?
[06:43] <Sandking> now sound
[06:43] <markuman> try| apt-get install libquicktime1
[06:44] <gnum4n> ahoy
[06:44] <EvolutionR> markuman: sure I try
[06:44] <gnum4n> can help with my 32-bit chrooted enviroment in Ubuntu AMD64?
[06:44] <gnum4n> anybody*
[06:44] <LesleyB> hello :)
[06:45] <Hwolf> Hey :-S
[06:45] <EvolutionR> Hwolf: wb to the channel. Haven't find out the print FF problem yet?
[06:45] <RuffianSoldier> Someone want to help me fix the Gnome sound server??
[06:45] <LesleyB> I'm having a bit of trouble getting an ubuntu install to even so much as ping another box successfully
[06:45] <Hwolf> No, and i'm very pissed about it.
[06:45] <LesleyB> anyone able to help?
[06:45] <RuffianSoldier> Hwolf?
[06:45] <RuffianSoldier> whoa re you talking to
[06:45] <gnum4n> in my chroot enviro (hoary) I can't install a kernel and the Nvidia drivers
[06:46] <Schaap> Monkeys i bet
[06:46] <EvolutionR> RuffianSoldier: he cant print using Firefox!
[06:46] <snowblink> LesleyB: your NIC is recognised?
[06:46] <RuffianSoldier> ic
[06:46] <LesleyB> yes snowblink
[06:46] <RuffianSoldier> can someone help me fix the dang sound server?
[06:46] <snowblink> LesleyB: You have assigned IP, gateway, subnet mask?
[06:46] <LesleyB> ifconfig shows eth0 ok and when I take it down then up again it comes back up with the IP addy I assigned to it
[06:47] <Schaap> Ok, how about that making samba work on bootup?
[06:47] <snowblink> LesleyB: okay. What about your routes?
[06:47] <RuffianSoldier> After install KDE 3.3.2 for testing - the sound now sounds like morse code and a bunch of craclking - any sugjestions??
[06:47] <Schaap> How should that be done?
[06:47] <Riddell> RuffianSoldier: i386?
[06:47] <Hwolf> RuffianSoldier: Yes?
[06:47] <RuffianSoldier> yes
[06:47] <LesleyB> snowblink I have bcast of 192.168.210.255 and mask of 255.255.255.0 both of which I believe to be correct
[06:47] <RuffianSoldier> i386
[06:47] <Riddell> RuffianSoldier: try apt-get install libarts1-mpeglib  and restartings artsd
[06:48] <EvolutionR> RuffianSoldier: IMHO, the KDE thing still in "testing" thats why u get those "SOS" code. @_o LOL
[06:48] <LesleyB> I have set the target machine's ip address and name in /etc/hosts as well as the ubuntu m/c's IP and hostname
[06:48] <LesleyB> haven't a clue about the routes what I get for the route command when eth0 is up is the following
[06:48] <EvolutionR> LesleyB: You having problem connect to internet through "PPPoE" on Warthy?
[06:49] <LesleyB> dest : 192.168.210.8
[06:49] <LesleyB> gw = *
[06:49] <LesleyB> genmask = 255.255.255.0
[06:49] <RuffianSoldier> Riddell, its already the latest version - so how do I restart artsd?
[06:49] <LesleyB> and that's the only route
[06:49] <LesleyB> EvolutionR : atm all i am trying to do is ping another machine over a x-over cable
[06:49] <Riddell> RuffianSoldier: killall artsd
[06:50] <RuffianSoldier> qs@ubuntu:~ $ killall artsd
[06:50] <RuffianSoldier> artsd: no process killed
[06:50] <LesleyB> I have not yet attempted to connect the ubuntu box up to internet this is LAN work
[06:50] <dread65> hey where do i get the kernel source for 2.6.8 .. when i do apt-cache search it cant find it!!
[06:50] <EvolutionR> LesleyB: OK
[06:50] <LesleyB> I can ping to the ubuntu box from my XP box all fine and dandy
[06:50] <snowblink> LesleyB: set your gateway as the IP of your other box
[06:50] <Hwolf> Does anyone here know what can cause me being unable to print from Firefox while printing from Openoffice is fine?
[06:50] <LesleyB> but whether I have the firewall running or not I just don't get a successful ping from ubuntu to XP
[06:51] <EvolutionR> Hwolf: is just Firefox cant print how bout other Browser like Opera?
[06:51] <LesleyB> ok snowblink (I *think* I tried this but it didn't work - will try again)
[06:51] <dread65> hey where do i get the kernel source for 2.6.8 .. when i do apt-cache search it cant find it!! i mean i just want to get my kernel sources and it aint working
[06:51] <Hwolf> EvolutionR: I think it's postscript that is messed up.
[06:51] <RuffianSoldier> Ridell?
[06:51] <RuffianSoldier> Riddell?
[06:52] <Riddell> RuffianSoldier: then it's not running, what are you using to play sound?
[06:52] <LesleyB> snowblink: route add gw 192.168.210.xxx ?
[06:52] <RuffianSoldier> im not sure
[06:52] <RuffianSoldier> how do I tell?
[06:52] <EvolutionR> Hwolf: ok let me know if u can print, im curious about it
[06:52] <Riddell> RuffianSoldier: well what music program, where are these sounds coming from?
[06:52] <snowblink> LesleyB: I'd just make it your default
[06:52] <LesleyB> ok
[06:53] <EvolutionR> markuman: I;ve apt-get install libquicktime1, it doesnt help, still get the green thing!
[06:53] <EvolutionR> help
[06:53] <RuffianSoldier> Riddell - events i.e. opening a program
[06:53] <markuman> hm
[06:53] <RuffianSoldier> any sound
[06:53] <markuman> do you have the VLC
[06:53] <RuffianSoldier> plus - now its not letting me enable sound
[06:53] <Riddell> RuffianSoldier: in KDE or gnome?
[06:53] <RuffianSoldier> Gnome
[06:53] <RuffianSoldier> KDE annoys me in Ubuntu
[06:54] <RuffianSoldier> maybe I should unninstall it 0_o
[06:54] <Riddell> RuffianSoldier: oh well, out of my knowledge, blame gnome
[06:54] <RuffianSoldier> >:-|
[06:54] <EvolutionR> RuffianSoldier: u mean u got no soud on Gnome? Warthy / HOary?
[06:55] <RuffianSoldier> i got sound - its but its morse code and fizz
[06:55] <LesleyB> snowblink after 'route add default gw 192.168.210.212' I now have an extra line in my routing table which is
[06:55] <RuffianSoldier> Hoary
[06:55] <RuffianSoldier> and now it wont let me enable sound
[06:55] <EvolutionR> oic
[06:55] <EvolutionR> not enable sound? mine works fine while playing VCD
[06:55] <EvolutionR> duno about XMMS
[06:56] <snowblink> LesleyB: see private message
[06:56] <LesleyB> dest = default Gateway = guano (correct hostname for machine I am trying to access) genmask = 0.0.0.0 Flags = UG
[06:56] <LesleyB> ty snowblink :)
[06:56] <markuman> EvolutionR,i have install | VLC, mozilla-plugin-vlc, quicktime-utils, quicktime-x11utils, libquicktime1 | and now, i see that on the screenshot
[06:56] <Sandking> ok, i made some configuration in network but it seems that ubuntu doesnt want to remember my settings - keeps going to unknown profile
[06:56] <RuffianSoldier> I have sound now - but still distorted clicking and fizz
[06:56] <Sandking> although i set my profile
[06:56] <markuman> but why it doesn't work, i don't know. i think the router
[06:57] <EvolutionR> markuman: what is VLC stands for?
[06:57] <markuman> Video Lan Clan player
[06:57] <RuffianSoldier> So no one has an answer to my sound problem?
[06:57] <markuman> http://www.videolan.org/
[06:57] <RuffianSoldier> qs@ubuntu:~ $ artsd
[06:57] <RuffianSoldier> ALSA lib pcm_hw.c:563:(snd_pcm_hw_start) SNDRV_PCM_IOCTL_START failed: Broken pipe
[06:57] <RuffianSoldier> ALSA lib pcm_hw.c:563:(snd_pcm_hw_start) SNDRV_PCM_IOCTL_START failed: Broken pipe
[06:58] <EvolutionR> markuman: mozilla-plugin-vlc   do I need to install that too and the others?
[06:58] <markuman> hm, i think you need the VLC and the mozilla plugin
[06:59] <dread65> what do i add to my sources.list to get access to the kernel source for 2.6.8 !!!
[07:00] <dread65> hello
[07:00] <dread65> asdfa
[07:01] <dread65> hey what do i add to my sources.list to get access to teh kernel source for 2.6.8 !
[07:01] <markuman> source or image?
[07:01] <EvolutionR> markuman: I try the mozilla first
[07:01] <dread65> source
[07:01] <EvolutionR> plugin
[07:01] <markuman> source i don't know! look at kernel.org
[07:02] <dread65> markuman: why doesnt ubuntu keep the source
[07:02] <dread65> wtf
[07:02] <dread65> its so stupid
[07:02] <RuffianSoldier> So no one can help me?
[07:02] <markuman> EvolutionR, i don't know if you need the VLC player for that.
[07:02] <markuman> dread65, i don't know
[07:02] <akurashy>  can someone find a solution to this? my zsnes sound doesnt work, sommeone recommened killing ESD but now i cant hear gaim sounds, can anyone recommend me somthing to make the both work O_o
[07:04] <JoePenguin> akurashy: Try invoking zsnes with "esddsp" in front of it, to make it use ESD. Or, configure/compile zsnes to use ESD natively if possible for better performance.
[07:05] <Sandking> how to display currently running modules?
[07:05] <Sandking> [sound exactly] 
[07:05] <JoePenguin> akurashy: esd and artsd are sound servers that allow multiple applications to output sound at the same time, otherwise only one app can use it at a time.
[07:05] <JoePenguin> Sandking: /sbin/lsmod
[07:05] <Sandking> thx
[07:05] <crimsun> Sandking: lsmod|grep ^snd
[07:05] <akurashy> JoePenguin: how do i invoke it?
[07:06] <JoePenguin> akurashy: esddsp zsnes
[07:06] <akurashy> k
[07:06] <JoePenguin> akurashy: while esd is running, of course
[07:06] <dread65> source
[07:07] <gnum4n> can somebody tell me how I can get libcss for AMD64?
[07:07] <gnum4n> I wanna watch DVDs
[07:08] <gnum4n> I know there is a script in ubuntu that will download and compile it for any archtecture
[07:08] <gnum4n> I can't find it
[07:08] <markuman> gnum4n, do you mean " amd64-libs "
[07:08] <markuman> ?
[07:08] <gnum4n> I dont think so
[07:08] <gnum4n> it is a shell script
[07:08] <gnum4n> thats builds DeCSS
[07:10] <tritium> gnum4n, did you try "apt-get source --compile"
[07:10] <tritium> ?
[07:10] <gnum4n> no
[07:11] <gnum4n> libcss isnt in universe
[07:11] <tritium> gnum4n, it's only on Marillat, afaik
[07:11] <gnum4n> I know
[07:11] <gnum4n> which only has i386
[07:11] <gnum4n> binarys
[07:12] <Sandking_> ok, i see that i have running snd modules, but when i type alsamixer it goes "alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device"
[07:12] <gnum4n> there was a post on the old forums that told you how to build it but I can't find it
[07:13] <abusado> why is it that uBUNTU dont have GCC compiler??
[07:13] <gnum4n> not even with google
[07:13] <dread65> HOW do i get the source kernel for 2.6.8 !!
[07:13] <crimsun> Sandking_: what sound chipset? cat /proc/asound/cards
[07:13] <dread65> i cant find it anywhere
[07:13] <crimsun> abusado: sudo aptitude install build-essential
[07:13] <crimsun> dread65: sudo aptitude install linux-source-2.6.8.1
[07:13] <dread65> it wont find it
[07:13] <crimsun> dread65: then uncomment the 'main' repo.
[07:14] <dread65> oh is that what you do
[07:14] <gnum4n> dread65 uname -r
[07:14] <crimsun> dread65: did you install anything from the 'net during the install?
[07:14] <gnum4n> what is the exact kernel version
[07:14] <gnum4n> ?
[07:14] <quitte> is someone here that can tellme how to use subversion to get the xorg repository of debians x-strike-force?
[07:14] <hitu> hey i have to manually increase volume everytime i play an mp3
[07:15] <hitu> sound card i SoundBlaster Emu101k
[07:15] <hitu> i/is
[07:15] <markuman> dread65, now i found it too with "  apt-cache search linux-source-2.6.8"
[07:15] <gnum4n> emu10k1?
[07:15] <website> quitte, svn co http://whatever-you-want
[07:15] <hitu> uh yah thats the driver it uses gnum4n
[07:15] <gnum4n> change your mixer to ESD
[07:15] <dread65> crimsun:  yea
[07:15] <hitu> chipset name ?
[07:15] <dread65> i have that kernel version
[07:15] <dread65> when i do uname -a
[07:15] <website> hitu, i've your card too but i've no problems
[07:15] <gnum4n> hitu
[07:16] <dread65> markuman: whats in your sources.list
[07:16] <gnum4n> change it to ESD in audio sink
[07:16] <quitte> website 405 method not allowed
[07:16] <hitu> how ?
[07:16] <hitu> i change it in ALSAMIXER
[07:16] <crimsun> dread65: so you need the main repo uncommented, then update and install 'linux-source-2.6.8.1'
[07:16] <gnum4n> hoary hitu?
[07:16] <dread65> crimsun: where is the sources.list file again
[07:16] <hitu> and it crashes sometimes too
[07:17] <gnum4n> ic
[07:17] <gnum4n> are you using hoary?
[07:17] <website> quitte, can you paste here the command?
[07:17] <hitu> hoary ?
[07:17] <gnum4n> ubuntu unstable branch
[07:17] <hitu> ho
[07:17] <crimsun> dread65: /etc/apt/sources.list (or use Synaptic>Settings>Repositories)
[07:17] <quitte> website no, but i can type.no x atm
[07:17] <gnum4n> oh
[07:17] <markuman> deb-src http://ftp2.de.debian.org/debian/ testing main non-free contrib | deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ testing main |
[07:17] <hitu> no*
[07:17] <zeki> can anybody help me how can i install tgz and rpm on ubuntu
[07:17] <hitu> whats that ?
[07:17] <quitte> website svn co http://necrotic.deadbest.net
[07:18] <crimsun> zeki: native debs are preferable to rpms and tgzs
[07:18] <hitu> ( Operating System ) Linux Debian-testing/unstable Kernel: 2.6.8.1-3-686, GNU/Linux | XFree86: 4.3.0.1 | Desktop: Gnome v2.8.1 | IRC Client: X-Chat v.2.4.1
[07:18] <dread65> crimsun: how do i know which is the main repo
[07:18] <hitu> if that helps .. gnum4n
[07:18] <crimsun> zeki: see 'alien' for converting rpms and tgzs to debs
[07:18] <quitte> website or svn co http://necrotic.deadbest.net/xorg os s/\/xorg/|
[07:18] <quitte> website or svn co http://necrotic.deadbest.net/xorg os s/\/xorg/\ xorg
[07:18] <zeki> thanks
[07:18] <dread65> the ones that say "main restricted" ?
[07:18] <occy> man, I've been getting some funky things going on with firefox.
[07:18] <occy> ugh
[07:18] <occy> bbiab
[07:18] <dread65> or the ones that say "warty universe"
[07:19] <dread65> i have others that say testing unstable main
[07:19] <gnum4n> open the gnome volume applet
[07:19] <crimsun> dread65: main restricted is fine
[07:19] <website> quitte, my pc says that id does not exsist
[07:19] <gnum4n> and see what device it is set to
[07:19] <website> quitte, wait
[07:19] <hitu> ok
[07:20] <gnum4n> Soundblaster Live! (Alsa Mixer) ?
[07:20] <hitu> yah
[07:21] <hitu> it only accepts changes in that mixer
[07:21] <website> quitte, i don't know how to help you, sorry
[07:21] <hitu> OSS Mixer is not workin
[07:21] <quitte> website http://necrotic.deadbeast.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/?rev=117&root=xorg#dirlist is the url that makes me want to download with subversion
[07:21] <EvolutionR> how to remove once installed tru apt-get install apps ? wat command
[07:21] <hitu> in Alsa Mixer .. i have to set EMU10K1 PCM Send .. the 1st one
[07:22] <hitu> change it manually .. i just move it and i can hear the sound
[07:22] <dread65> crimsun: you are wrong man i still dont get it listed
[07:22] <dread65> when i do update
[07:22] <hitu> EvolutionR: use synaptic :P
[07:22] <EvolutionR> okie
[07:22] <hitu> EvolutionR: apt-get install synaptic
[07:22] <markuman> EvolutionR, or try remove
[07:23] <crimsun> dread65: apt-cache policy linux-source-2.6.8.1
[07:23] <crimsun> dread65: (don't paste here)
[07:23] <hitu> remove ?
[07:23] <hitu> oh yah whats apt-cache all about ?
[07:23] <occy> crimsun: I was just bugging you the other day about that ltconf app you were going to setup.  (still having funky issues on me lappie)
[07:23] <hitu> and apt-list :S
[07:23] <occy> crimsun: you are busy now, so no worries.
[07:23] <website> quitte, it seems to be not able to export svn repo with http service
[07:23] <markuman> hitu, apt-get help
[07:23] <occy> crimsun: we'll get it figured out one of these days :)
[07:24] <markuman> there you see remove ;-)
[07:24] <crimsun> occy: sorry I didn't get back to you in a timely fashion
[07:24] <occy> crimsun: Triple my money back if I ain't happy with your tech support. :)
[07:24] <hitu> markuman: but what if he doesn know the exact package name
[07:24] <occy> crimsun:  nub nub
[07:24] <dread65> crimsun: yah what do i do with this info
[07:25] <quitte> website :( thanks for helping
[07:25] <crimsun> dread65: paste it to me in a query
[07:25] <Sandking_> where the hell is the language configutation?
[07:25] <crimsun> Sandking_: for...the console? gnome?
[07:25] <Sandking_> gnome
[07:26] <website> quitte, a stupid question
[07:26] <EvolutionR> is there any guide to Quicktime on Ubuntu? I really need it!
[07:26] <markuman> hitu, if he have perhaps "apt-get install gaim" and want to remove it, just "apt-get remove gaim"
[07:26] <website> why do you want xorg?
[07:26] <EvolutionR> to play quicktime trailers
[07:26] <website> since it is unstable for now..
[07:26] <quitte> website s3 savage with dri
[07:27] <hitu> Xorg on Ubuntu ? :S
[07:27] <quitte> no on debian :)
[07:27] <EvolutionR> is there any guide to Quicktime on Ubuntu? I really need it! to play quicktime trailers ????
[07:27] <wezzer> on hoary yes
[07:27] <hitu> gnum4n: i m still waiting for ur answer :P
[07:27] <wezzer> EvolutionR: try mplayer
[07:27] <wezzer> http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/news.html
[07:27] <EvolutionR> ok
[07:27] <gholen> how du i download mplayer
[07:27] <website> EvolutionR, look at the ubuntu faq
[07:28] <gholen> cant find it in ubuntus list
[07:28] <pybe-lap1y> EvolutionR: apt-get install gxine w32codecs libquicktime1
[07:28] <crimsun> EvolutionR: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats/view?searchterm=mozilla-mplayer
[07:28] <website> quitte, i've the same problem
[07:28] <wezzer> mplayer plays anything
[07:28] <website> use vesa driver instead
[07:28] <wezzer> there is no such thing that mplayer wouldn't play
[07:28] <quitte> website huh?
[07:28] <hitu> mplayer ownz
[07:28] <quitte> website i have no problem with savage drivers
[07:28] <markuman> gholen, you need another list
[07:28] <hitu> eehe
[07:28] <gholen> witch list then?
[07:28] <quitte> website but i want 3d acceleration.and i want debian packages fromxorg.
[07:28] <hitu> brb
[07:29] <hitu> reboot
[07:29] <markuman> ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ testing main
[07:29] <markuman> in the apt/sources.list i think
[07:29] <markuman> or you have to compile it
[07:29] <website> quitte, i dont' know how to help you
[07:29] <quitte> website and i think the x-strike-force does a great job.so i'd prefertheir work as a basis for building xorg packages rather than the ubuntu package
[07:30] <quitte> website why do you use vesa drivers on savage?
[07:30] <markuman> gholen, perhapt a unstable debian src too, but i'm not sure
[07:30] <website> quitte, i've not really savage but an ati 9250
[07:31] <gholen> so, whats the adress to the list, diddt see it?
[07:31] <quitte> website i dontunderstand your i have the same problemstatement at all then.
[07:31] <quitte> i really have to clean my keyboard
[07:31] <markuman> paste this | ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ testing main | into you /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:32] <markuman> than apt-get update
[07:32] <markuman> and now you should found mplayer with apt-cache search mplayer
[07:32] <EvolutionR> thanks
[07:32] <website> i've yto go
[07:32] <website> see you
[07:33] <EvolutionR> I think already added those apps
[07:33] <markuman> deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ testing main
[07:33] <EvolutionR> I installed mplayer already
[07:33] <EvolutionR> but how to run it?
[07:33] <EvolutionR> is there any Gui?
[07:34] <markuman> it should run, have you try ALT+F2. wirte mplayer
[07:34] <markuman> ?
[07:34] <chutwig|linux> how do i get gnome to re-read .gnome2/share/fonts without restarting the whole shebang?
[07:34] <EvolutionR> markuman: ok
[07:35] <EvolutionR> markuman: the repos u gave me is it the mplayer 1.0 ?
[07:36] <markuman> EvolutionR, don't know, i don't use the mplayer
[07:36] <markuman> EvolutionR, wezzer told you to try mplayer
[07:37] <EvolutionR> guys how do I get the latest Mplayer 1.0 is there any repos out there?
[07:37] <wezzer> umm, is there mplayer 1.0?
[07:37] <wezzer> I must have missed something important...
[07:37] <wezzer> wow
[07:37] <wezzer> 1.0-pre6
[07:38] <weblin> does anyone know why I cant boot a custom kernel if I'm using an initrd image?
[07:39] <EvolutionR> wezzer : MPlayer v1.0pre6a source
[07:39] <EvolutionR> wezzer : MPlayer v1.0pre6a source
[07:39] <crimsun> weblin: did you pass --initrd to kernel package, or did you run mkinitrd manually?
[07:39] <crimsun> moin oliver :)
[07:39] <weblin> crimsun, I did it all manually
[07:39] <crimsun> weblin: and updated menu.list then ran update-grub?
[07:39] <crimsun> err, menu.lst
[07:40] <weblin> crimsun, if I use update-grub, then wont I lose my custom kernel entry?
[07:40] <weblin> when I install kernels with synaptic, I always have to replace my custom entry
[07:40] <raitis> hello , need some help
[07:40] <crimsun> weblin: you need to configure grub to look at for custom kernel image, then
[07:40] <AstralJava> An off-topic question if you may, crimsun, does Ytsejam say anything to you?
[07:40] <crimsun> to look for^
[07:41] <crimsun> AstralJava: (My nick is from the first and last movements of A Change of Seasons. That should answer your question.)
[07:41] <weblin> crimsun, how do I do that, other than having the custom entry for my kernel in menu.lst?
[07:41] <AstralJava> I thought so :)
[07:41] <raitis> i cant see under "Applications -> Desktop Preferences" , the desktop preferences dont show up, do i have to be loged in as root to see them?
[07:41] <crimsun> raitis: no, you don't need to be logged in as root
[07:42] <raitis> why cant i see them?
[07:42] <Simira> any other Norwegians here?
[07:42] <thread> raitis: 'Computer' menu?
[07:42] <raitis> if i click on the panel with Applications
[07:42] <raitis> i cant see the desktop preferences
[07:43] <crimsun> weblin: the easiest way is to place is in the static portion of /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:43] <crimsun> weblin: ^to place it
[07:43] <EvolutionR> i've installed the apt get mplayer....but I want the gui version!
[07:43] <raitis> oh sorry found it ,wrong menu  ....... thanks
[07:43] <fonz55> raitis: it is under Computer and then Desktop Preferences
[07:43] <EvolutionR> how to run???????????????
[07:43] <raitis> thanks
[07:43] <crimsun> EvolutionR: use gmplayer
[07:44] <EvolutionR> crimsun: apt-get install gmplayer ?
[07:44] <raitis> but why is it in the help writen thats under applications
[07:44] <AstralJava> crimsun: as you seem to be in the know; do I have to do that if I get updates from apt-get upgrade for kernel? Is it a patch, and if so, then do I need to bother?
[07:44] <gholen> its writeprotected, i can accses it
[07:44] <weblin> crimsun, ahh I see. so once I put it outside the automatic kernel list, and run update-grub, my kernel should boot with an initd image?
[07:44] <raitis> ok thanks alot
[07:44] <crimsun> EvolutionR: it's part of the mplayer-* package
[07:44] <AstralJava> A lot of questions seem to be fired up here. Nice. :)
[07:45] <EvolutionR> oic I just type gmplayer on my terminal?
[07:45] <EvolutionR> which location?
[07:45] <crimsun> AstralJava: if you update kernels using synaptic|aptitude|apt-get|dselect, then no, the package management system handles updating grub for you.
[07:45] <fonz55> crimsun: clould you help me setting grub to booting Windflows as default? When I run update-grub the entry is removed as first of the list
[07:45] <AstralJava> Thank you very much. :) Grew worried for a bit there.
[07:45] <gholen> i cant access the location /etc/apt/source list
[07:46] <crimsun> weblin: presuming it's the _correct_ initrd image and you have that line present, yes.
[07:46] <weblin> crimsun, yeah it's the right image. thanks for the help. I'll try booting it again now.
[07:46] <eyequeue> gholen:  sources.list
[07:46] <gholen> yes, i know... lousy spellig
[07:46] <eyequeue> gholen:  sudo ?
[07:46] <fonz55> gholen: use your Tab completion and you can't do anything wrong
[07:47] <eyequeue> fonz55:  not in xchat, heh
[07:47] <AstralJava> I guess s/he meant the spelling here. :)
[07:47] <seppe> hi, what do I have to install to get xvid support under totem?
[07:47] <fonz55> eyequeue: hehe
[07:47] <eyequeue> irsii is cool tht way though
[07:47] <EvolutionR> crimsun: on my terminal , I just type gmplayer on whatever path of directory I'm in?
[07:47] <gholen> so, in the terminal, ill just write "sudo gedit/etc/apt/sources.list ocr what
[07:48] <thread> seppe: w32codecs
[07:48] <seppe> thread: I did
[07:48] <thread> seppe: I might be wrong then...
[07:48] <seppe> and xvid is not a w32 codec
[07:48] <seppe> xvid = open source
[07:48] <crimsun> EvolutionR: I have to pass a skin parameter as well.
[07:48] <eyequeue> gholen:  yes, spaced and typed apprpriately
[07:48] <fonz55> eyequeue: are you able to help me then somewhere else? :-)
[07:48] <gholen> I cant see what i write, thats why my spelling i incorrect
[07:48] <gholen> thx, testing again
[07:48] <crimsun> EvolutionR: (e.g., alias mp='gmplayer -skin proton ')
[07:48] <eyequeue> fonz55:  what's the prob?
[07:48] <crimsun> EvolutionR: (then I just run ,,mp'')
[07:49] <EvolutionR> okie
[07:49] <EvolutionR> thanks gtg sleep
[07:49] <EvolutionR> zzzz
[07:49] <EvolutionR> bye!
[07:49] <fonz55> eyequeue: I need to setup dafault boot as windows, but it won't work
[07:49] <fonz55> eyeyqueue: I tried to setup windows as first line in menu.lst and then update-grub
[07:50] <fonz55> eyequeue: and hen the line is removed in its original state
[07:50] <eyequeue> fonz55:  warty?
[07:50] <fonz55> eyequeue: Yep
[07:50] <AstralJava> fonz55: I'm not an expert when it comes to grub, but did you/grub remember to switch map numbers, cause windows is a bit picky like that.
[07:51] <seppe> erm, where is my kernel installed in ubuntu? why isn't it in /usr/src? :/
[07:51] <eyequeue> fonz55:  a quick perusal of menu.lst in warty shows me the top paragraph seems to explain how (default saved / savedefault)
[07:51] <gholen> ok, acces it went fine, now its sudo atp-get update?
[07:52] <crimsun> seppe: your kernel is in /boot/vmlinuz-$(uname -r)
[07:52] <fonz55> AstralJava: hmm, map numbers....
[07:53] <AstralJava> fonz55: Hang on, trying to find grub menu settings...
[07:53] <seppe> crimsun: that is just the image
[07:53] <seppe> I want the source directory
[07:53] <crimsun> seppe: (you did ask for the kernel)
[07:53] <EvolutionR> crimsun: wat is alias mp ?
[07:53] <snowblink> fonz55: just change default to the number of your windows boot
[07:54] <crimsun> seppe: are you running warty or hoary?
[07:54] <EvolutionR> crimsun: I need the gmplayer on my destop
[07:54] <seppe> the unstable one :)
[07:54] <EvolutionR> I used a launcher
[07:54] <crimsun> seppe: sudo aptitude install linux-source-2.6.10
[07:54] <seppe> ok thanks ;)
[07:54] <crimsun> seppe: cd /usr/src && tar xfj linux-source-2.6.10.tar.bz2
[07:54] <seppe> ok great, thanks
[07:55] <AstralJava> fonz55: Sorry, nevermind. That seems to be old information. In my grub's menu.lst there isn't anything about what I was talking about there.
[07:55] <EvolutionR> crimsun: after Gmplayer for the launcher at /usr/bin  ....when I double click on the icon desktop, it wont load?
[07:55] <netmonk> can someone help me restore the settings of my window manager? evry program I open does not have the X and the whole line with it. please, help!
[07:55] <fonz55> AstralJava: okay, I will look further.
[07:55] <crimsun> EvolutionR: it's a shell alias in my ~/.bashrc
[07:56] <snowblink> fonz55: just change default to the number of your windows boot
[07:56] <fonz55> snowblink: boot number is then the partition number or?
[07:56] <crimsun> EvolutionR: run it from a Terminal
[07:56] <snowblink> fonz55: nope. Just count down the number of entries
[07:57] <eyequeue> fonz55:  numbering starts at 0 for grub, so hda1 translates to 0,0
[07:57] <snowblink> eyequeue: I don't think that's what he's after
[07:57] <EvolutionR> crimsun: http://pastebin.ca/5043
[07:57] <fonz55> snowblink: okay, let me try that one. But why doesnt it work when I put the entry one or more entries upwards in menu.lst?
[07:58] <eyequeue> fonz55:  numbering starts at 0 for grub, so hdb4 translates to 1,3
[07:58] <EvolutionR> http://pastebin.ca/5043
[07:58] <fonz55> eyequeue: that I am familiar with
[07:59] <crimsun> EvolutionR: do _not_ use mplayer-custom. Remove it and install mplayer-k6.
[07:59] <snowblink> fonz55: sorry don't really understand your question
[07:59] <EvolutionR> mplayer k6 for Athlon XP ?
[07:59] <crimsun> EvolutionR: yes
[07:59] <EvolutionR> how to remove
[07:59] <EvolutionR> apt-get remove ?
[07:59] <crimsun> EvolutionR: sudo aptitude install mplayer-k6
[07:59] <Dishwasher> ya
[08:00] <Dishwasher> apt-get remove <package name>
[08:00] <EvolutionR> okie
[08:00] <fonz55> snowblink: the only thing I was after is that when booting the grub menu does boot into windows as default and not Ubuntu as first. Thats why I was first trying to move the Windows entry upwards in menu.lst
[08:00] <rcaskey_> notice anything? --> http://distrowatch.com/index.php?dataspan=4
[08:00] <fonz55> snowblink: but that didn't work out
[08:01] <snowblink> fonz55: when you boot up, which option was highlighted?
[08:01] <fonz55> snowblink: Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.8.1-3-386
[08:02] <fonz55> the 3rd entry is windows
[08:02] <snowblink> fonz55: and your default now reads?
[08:02] <fonz55> snowblink: dault is zero
[08:02] <snowblink> change that to 3
[08:03] <fonz55> snowblink: let me try that and then reboot
[08:03] <Inflicted> my word... i can't believe ubuntu has gained so much momentum... 1st time in here! :)
[08:03] <EvolutionR> http://pastebin.ca/5044
[08:03] <fonz55> snowblink: I tried it the other way round by moving the windows entry upwards, being zero ;-)
[08:03] <EvolutionR> crimsun: http://pastebin.ca/5044
[08:04] <snowblink> fonz55: heh - make minimal modifications
[08:04] <eyequeue> rcaskey_:  that number 12 isn't even linux? :)
[08:04] <fonz55> snowblink: hehe, I got the point of linux..... :-)
[08:04] <poningru> can someone help?
[08:05] <poningru> can anyone connect to irc.mozilla.org
[08:05] <poningru> sorry non ubuntu topic
[08:05] <EvolutionR> crimsun: http://pastebin.ca/5044  <--- have u read the error?
[08:06] <AstralJava> Damnit, crimsun, are you on #TEoF right now?
[08:06] <crimsun> AstralJava: no.
[08:06] <crimsun> EvolutionR: just did. Did you read /wiki/RestrictedFormats ?
[08:06] <AstralJava> But you have been, right?
[08:06] <crimsun> AstralJava: yes.
[08:06] <AstralJava> Dan, if I recall correctly?
[08:07] <crimsun> (the same)
[08:07] <AstralJava> Bwahahahaha....
[08:07] <AstralJava> Geez, what a sudden flashback. :)
[08:07] <AstralJava> It's Jaska here. Remember me?
[08:07] <fonz55> snowblink: thanks in advance
[08:07] <AstralJava> Heh, man, it's been ages.
[08:07] <crimsun> AstralJava: your nick is familiar :)
[08:07] <snowblink> fonz55: good luck
[08:08] <AstralJava> I'm the Finnish guy, a friend of Aki's.
[08:08] <crimsun> AstralJava: righto
[08:08] <fonz55> : is going for a reboot
[08:08] <AstralJava> Okay, I'll stop the off-topic babble now. But it is good to see you.
[08:08] <hitu> hey
[08:08] <crimsun> AstralJava: ditto :)
[08:08] <AstralJava> Ta. :)
[08:09] <hitu> how do i stop X on ubuntu ?
[08:09] <hitu> i wanna install nvidia drivers
[08:09] <SigmaX> Hey;  I just installed Ubuntu for the first time, and it won't keep my DNS settings for more than like a minute and a half, then it reverts to the previous settings, which were determined by DHCP
[08:09] <eyequeue> hitu:  /etc/init./gdm stop is probably what you're looking for
[08:09] <crimsun> hitu: https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:09] <hitu> i changed inittab to "2" but then still i am not able to install the drivers
[08:09] <hitu> ok i'll try that
[08:10] <hitu> lemme get on irssi
[08:10] <crimsun> hitu: Ubuntu, like Debian, does not play runlevel games.
[08:10] <hitu> so how do i install the drivers then ? :/
[08:11] <crimsun> hitu: essentially: sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx && sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[08:11] <EvolutionR>  Updated mplayer packages may be retrieved by adding the following repository in addition to debian-marillat: but how Im noob
[08:12] <crimsun> EvolutionR: I left instructions
[08:12] <EvolutionR> sorry I surf the web just now dint notice it
[08:12] <hitu> sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx && sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[08:12] <hitu> opps
[08:12] <hitu> Initializing package states... Done
[08:12] <hitu> nvidia-glx is already installed at the requested version (1.0.6111-1ubuntu8)
[08:13] <crimsun> hitu: so execute the second command
[08:13] <hitu> i gave both the commands
[08:13] <hitu> root@kinky:/home/hitu # sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[08:13] <hitu> root@kinky:/home/hitu #
[08:13] <hitu> nothin happens
[08:14] <hitu> and glxinfo gives me this
[08:14] <hitu> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[08:14] <hitu> Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual
[08:14] <crimsun> hitu: did you restart gdm?
[08:15] <hitu> crimsun: it was already installed on my earlier "apt-get upgrade"
[08:15] <hitu> but lemme restart gdm anyway
[08:15] <hitu> am on kdm infact :P
[08:15] <hitu> ( Operating System ) Linux Debian-testing/unstable Kernel: 2.6.8.1-3-686, GNU/Linux | XFree86: 4.3.0.1 | Desktop: KDE: 3.3.2 | IRC Client: X-Chat v.2.4.1
[08:17] <EvolutionR> I just add the line http://sh.nu/~crimsun/ to the repos?
[08:19] <EvolutionR> crimsun: I just add the line http://sh.nu/~crimsun/ to the repos it that it?
[08:19] <crimsun> EvolutionR: and follow the remainder of the instructions, yes.
[08:20] <EvolutionR> yes sir :P okie
[08:20] <a2ps> so ive tried to install ubuntu 64bits on my amd64 machine, everything goes ok, but on reboot, its like it hangs when the computer is starting, and i must press the reboot button for it to reboot. that didnt happen on the 32bits version. anyone knows what might be?
[08:21] <EvolutionR> crimsun : what is aptitude? is it same like apt get?
[08:21] <dejot> hi
[08:22] <klaym> EvolutionR: it's a frontend like synaptic
[08:22] <Sandking_> how to change language in gnome?
[08:22] <EvolutionR> another frontend!
[08:22] <dejot> lol german channel is empty, but here ...
[08:22] <EvolutionR> :)
[08:22] <ALTF4> whoo hoo... at least i'm online in ubuntu
[08:22] <eyequeue> EvolutionR:  in general lately, you seem to be interested in learning things about ubuntu.  is that pretty accurate?
[08:22] <EvolutionR> wat the diffrence for between them?
[08:23] <EvolutionR> eyequeue: yes... slowly learning
[08:23] <ALTF4> hrm.... my name doesn't show up
[08:23] <fonz55> snowblink: it worked. Thanks. Eery hour learning more
[08:23] <EvolutionR> I have confidence Ubuntu will improve :)
[08:23] <eyequeue> EvolutionR:  i think you might enjoy browsing through one of the urls in the /topic, namely http://www.ubuntuguide.org/
[08:24] <EvolutionR> yes but no time yet
[08:24] <eyequeue> EvolutionR:  there's a lot of step-by-step things in there
[08:24] <EvolutionR> later on
[08:24] <EvolutionR> yesl
[08:24] <EvolutionR> yes I know
[08:24] <ALTF4> hmm... is there a quick way to extend my desktop onto a second monitor?
[08:24] <EvolutionR> I went there but some of the thing they dint discuss left out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[08:24] <eyequeue> EvolutionR:  just glance through to see what can be done, then you can go back there when you need it (like adding repositories)
[08:25] <fonz55> altf4: xinerama is the keyword here
[08:25] <EvolutionR> apt-get update
[08:25] <EvolutionR> E: Type 'http://sh.nu/~crimsun/' is not known on line 30 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:25] <Frossi> Hi, I would like to have a bandwidth limiting software on my ubuntu server. what would be the easiet way to get one?
[08:25] <hitu> hey
[08:25] <hitu> http://home.comcast.net/~andrex/Debian-nVidia/installation.html
[08:25] <hitu> hey said somethin bout "shell variable"
[08:25] <hitu> whats that ?
[08:25] <hitu> he*
[08:26] <ALTF4> oh no.... not another one :( I still can't get the ndiswrapper working
[08:27] <Sandking_> what's the command for checking my actual kernel?
[08:27] <EvolutionR> In late November 2004, the debian-marillat repository's packages were rebuilt against newer packages that aren't available in Warty. Updated mplayer packages may be retrieved by adding the following repository in addition to debian-marillat:
[08:27] <EvolutionR> URI:            http://sh.nu/~crimsun/
[08:27] <EvolutionR> Distribution:   ./
[08:27] <EvolutionR> Section(s):     (leave blank)
[08:27] <[amasimak] > uname -a
[08:27] <EvolutionR>  I really dont understand for a newbie like me!
[08:27] <rotundo> hi all
[08:27] <eyequeue> Sandking_:  uname
[08:28] <Sandking_> thx
[08:28] <SigmaX> Can somebody help me with my DNS client setup?  It's not setting it properly.
[08:28] <Sandking_> eyequeue, it displays Linux :] 
[08:28] <fonz55> eyequeue: how do I mention the name I want to talk to in IRC without typing it actualy?
[08:29] <EvolutionR> SigmaX: go to Desktop: Networking: DNS
[08:29] <[amasimak] > Sandking_, uname -a
[08:29] <eyequeue> Sandking_:  good :)  uname -r might give you the part you want, heh
[08:29] <LinuxJones> Anybody having troubles with Nvidia Drivers in Hoary ?
[08:29] <EvolutionR> admin
[08:29] <eyequeue> Sandking_:  lots of switches, availabe in 'man uname'
[08:29] <crimsun> LinuxJones: work fine here
[08:29] <LinuxJones> crimsun,  ok I'm sure it's just stupidity on my part :D
[08:29] <EvolutionR> Updated mplayer packages may be retrieved by adding the following repository in addition to debian-marillat: <[08:30] <SigmaX> EvolutionR: It says DNS Servers>192.168.0.254.  I need it to be 192.168.0.1.  When I set it that way, it works for about a minute, and then reverts back to 192.168.0.254 without warning and I lose internet.
[08:30] <LinuxJones> crimsun,  I jsut upgraded
[08:30] <SigmaX> Lose DNS*
[08:30] <M3ta> You friggin windows lovers are trying to turn Ubuntu into a X-based crap... you will never know shit if you can only do it by graphical icons. SigmaX: edit /etc/resolv.conf
[08:30] <crimsun> EvolutionR: in Synaptic>Settings>Repositories, add that
[08:30] <ALTF4> ok, another Q: during install, if I'd been connected I could have run updates. As I wasn't connected to the net, I didn't... How do I do the updates post-install?
[08:30] <SigmaX> M3ta> Thanx.  I new there was a config file for it but I didn't know where
[08:30] <crimsun> ALTF4: uncomment warty-security, then: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade
[08:30] <EvolutionR> E: Type 'http://sh.nu/~crimsun/' is not known on line 30 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:31] <crimsun> EvolutionR: did you use the correct syntax?
[08:31] <eyequeue> EvolutionR:  that guide i mentioned talks about what format to use for adding repositories
[08:31] <SigmaX> M3ta> thanx, that fixed it :-D
[08:31] <eyequeue> EvolutionR:  what you put in doesn't start with deb-src or deb
[08:33] <markuman> EvolutionR, try | deb http://sh.nu/~crimsun/ | on line 30
[08:34] <crimsun> deb http://sh.nu/~crimsun/ ./
[08:34] <EvolutionR> okie thanks everone for every effort u make! I'm glad! if can I will help others newbie too!
[08:34] <EvolutionR> I try
[08:35] <hitu> E0x: Dynamic MMap ran out of room
[08:35] <hitu> E0x: Error occured while processing python-gdchart (NewVersion1)
[08:35] <hitu> E0x: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/http.us.debian.org_debian_dists_unstable_main_binary-i386_Packages
[08:35] <hitu> E0x: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened
[08:36] <hitu> whats that error mean :|
[08:36] <EvolutionR> deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ stable main
[08:36] <EvolutionR>  deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main
[08:36] <EvolutionR>  deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ testing main
[08:36] <EvolutionR> #deb http://ubuntu-bp.sourceforge.net/ubuntu/ warty-backports main universe
[08:36] <EvolutionR> deb http://sh.nu/~crimsun/
[08:36] <crimsun> EvolutionR: read what I typed ;)
[08:36] <EvolutionR> thanks
[08:36] <ALTF4> thanks for all the help guys
[08:36] <ALTF4> bbl
[08:37] <ALTF4> learning is great fun, but stressful on the brain.
[08:37] <E0x> hitu: what do u try install ?
[08:37] <hitu> E0x: i just did "apt-get update"
[08:37] <EvolutionR> crimsun: yeah left out the ./
[08:37] <lizdeika> %%% tuxracer warning: Warning: Couldn't set 22050 Hz 16-bit audio
[08:37] <lizdeika>   Reason: No available audio device
[08:37] <lizdeika> can i do smth ?
[08:37] <EvolutionR> I dint know have to put that
[08:38] <EvolutionR> should clearly mention have to put the ./ on the website for a newbie make ppl confuse!
[08:38] <EvolutionR> :P
[08:38] <crimsun> hitu: increase APT::Cache-Limit in /etc/apt/apt.conf
[08:38] <E0x> hitu: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2003/05/msg00346.html
[08:38] <hitu> k
[08:39] <hitu> there's no such file though .. i'll search
[08:39] <crimsun> hitu: create one.
[08:39] <EvolutionR> crimsun:  should clearly mention have to put the ./ on the website for a newbie make ppl confuse!
[08:39] <hitu> /etc/apt/apt.conf.d
[08:39] <crimsun> EvolutionR: it _is_ clearly mentioned.
[08:39] <hitu> that one ?
[08:39] <crimsun> hitu: no, /etc/apt/apt.conf
[08:39] <hitu> k
[08:39] <SigmaX> a
[08:40] <E0x> hitu: try: touch /var/lib/apt/lists/http.us.debian.org_debian_dists_unstable_main_binary-i386_Packages
[08:40] <crimsun> EvolutionR: note the "./" corresponds to the Distribution
[08:40] <E0x> after , apt-get update
[08:40] <AstralJava> Damn, the new xfce install is busy, I think. I'll hit the sack now. Night, everyone. Thx for the help!
[08:41] <poningru> can someone help?
[08:41] <EvolutionR> crimsun: u see even <markuman> EvolutionR, try | deb http://sh.nu/~crimsun/ | on line 30      also wrong about it
[08:41] <poningru> I just need a quick help with non ubuntu topic
[08:41] <EvolutionR> I'm not alone here!
[08:41] <EvolutionR> :)
[08:41] <poningru> just needed to see if an irc server is online
[08:41] <crimsun> EvolutionR: < crimsun> deb http://sh.nu/~crimsun/ ./
[08:41] <poningru> irc.mozilla.org
[08:41] <EvolutionR> ok learnt a lesson here :)
[08:42] <EvolutionR> thanks!
[08:42] <poningru> I would greatly appreciate it if someone could go check if that is up
[08:42] <eyequeue> poningru:  yes
[08:42] <SigmaX> hey; me again, so much for problem solved.  My DNS setting is still reverting.  Something is changing my resolv.conf to make it 192.168.0.254, which is not what I need it to be anymore.
[08:42] <poningru> it is up?
[08:43] <eyequeue> poningru:  i did 'telnet irc.mozilla.org 6667' and got a reasonable response
[08:43] <poningru> can you try through 7000 port?
[08:43] <poningru> please
[08:43] <EvolutionR> crimsun:thanks for the  teaching
[08:43] <EvolutionR> gtg sleep is late over here
[08:44] <crimsun> EvolutionR: we all have a long way to go
[08:44] <EvolutionR> yeah!
[08:44] <eyequeue> poningru:  6667 is up, but 7000 is closed
[08:44] <poningru> ah that makes sense
[08:44] <poningru> thank you so much
[08:45] <eyequeue> np
[08:45] <hitu> E0x: thanks .. got help from that url u gave
[08:45] <froust-school> is it normal for linux to use 95% of available ram?
[08:45] <rcaskey_> yes
[08:46] <rcaskey_> it will free it as needed
[08:46] <froust-school> that's what i thought
[08:46] <eyequeue> froust-school:  fire up /usr/bin/top and watch it for a while some time :)  including when you add a lot of load, etc
[08:47] <raiti1> does anybody know how to get Enemy Territory working on Ubuntu?
[08:48] <raiti1> i installed Et then added the drivers with synaptic packge manager then installed the drivers from nvidias webpage and after i start Et i get the error "Sys_Error: GLimp_Init() - could not load OpenGL subsystem"
[08:48] <froust-school> eyequeue: i was looking at top - nothing major going on... was just wondering if i should be alarmed or not.
[08:49] <SigmaX> raiti: Do you have OpenGL installed? :-P
[08:49] <SigmaX> raiti: I'm opening the installer now to see if I get the same problem
[08:50] <raiti1> dont know
[08:50] <Guardiann> froust-school how much ram do you have?
[08:51] <tiago> hi there, which package Can I get to use apache2 + ssl? I already installed apache2 package, any help?
[08:51] <SigmaX> raiti:  Don't know what's wrong.  It didn't work on mine either, but gave me a different error ("recieved signal 11, exiting...")
[08:51] <raiti1> i got the nvidia-glx nvidia-settings and nvidia-kernel-common installed and i installed the .run driver from nvidias webpage
[08:51] <raiti1> http://mandrakeusers.org/lofiversion/index.php/t18393.html
[08:51] <crimsun> froust-school: Linux caches aggressively. The common case is that very little free physical memory remains. The vm will allow memory to be reclaimed by applications that need it.
[08:52] <raiti1> there is this tutorial how but i dont really understand all , a beginner here
[08:52] <crimsun> raiti1: you don't need to execute the Nvidia installer; Ubuntu has the drivers already.
[08:52] <raiti1> yeah got the both installed
[08:53] <froust-school> Guardiann: 1 GB
[08:53] <gnum4n> has anybody got ET working the AMD64 build?
[08:54] <Petaris> gnum4n: In what way?
[08:54] <Petaris> gnum4n: Warty is already availiable for the AMD64
[08:54] <gnum4n> Hoary
[08:54] <gnum4n> I want to install ET
[08:54] <Petaris> ahh
[08:54] <gnum4n> Enemy Territory
[08:55] <Petaris> oh, I thought you wanted estimated time
[08:55] <E0x> hitu: cool
[08:55] <SigmaX> lol
[08:55] <gnum4n> lol
[08:55] <gnum4n> also I have had a problem setting DMA in any version of Ubuntu on my drives
[08:56] <gnum4n> hdparm freaks out because I have a SATA drive
[08:56] <SigmaX> has anybody else had problems with ubuntu not keeping DNS settings?  It configured via DHCP during install, but I need it manual, and it keeps reverting.
[08:56] <nir> I had such problems
[08:56] <Guardiann> froust-school same as mine and mine is using 274444 of the 1004040
[08:56] <eyequeue> SigmaX:  do you have the resolvconf package installed and active?
[08:56] <nir> setup using network-admin
[08:57] <nir> and the setup kept reversing until I rebooted and setup it manually in /etc
[08:57] <SigmaX> nir: network-admin changes it, but within a minute or so it's reverted back to the original without warning, and I lost DNS connection.
[08:58] <nir> yea, something is broken there
[08:58] <froust-school> hrm. weird.
[08:58] <nir> and the profile you set always disabled
[08:59] <nir> you set up a profile, save, close
[08:59] <nir> open again, the selected profile is Unkown
[08:59] <SigmaX> Yeah; I set a profile called "home", and whenver I open it later it's set to "unkown" with the old DNS setting.  All my other IP settings stay the same.
[08:59] <nir> and not your save one
[08:59] <nir> SigmaX, try to reboot
[08:59] <zazeem> anyonnw here know how to install a program thats been extracted from tar.gz ??
[09:00] <SigmaX> Lol... that's why I left Windows... but I'll give it a shot...
[09:00] <nir> and set everything manually
[09:00] <zazeem> ?
[09:00] <SigmaX> I changed it when we started talking in resolv.conf, and now it's back to the one I don't want... :-(
[09:00] <nir> SigmaX, at least now when its broken, you can fix it
[09:00] <eyequeue> SigmaX:  do you have the resolvconf package installed and active?
[09:01] <hikaru79> I have a user named 'adrian' , how can I give him full permissions on the /var/www/ directory? At the moment, it says permission is denied.
[09:01] <juzteen> Hey, I've been using k3b to burn torrent files and it works fantastic. however when I try to make a compile or burn a cd to cd copy I always get an error. anybody know anything about these kind of k3b issues?
[09:01] <SigmaX> eyequeue: I don't know.  I'm rebooting now so I can't check... and a few moment ago synaptic was giving me some error... I'll check
[09:01] <nir> bettter broken and free then broken from redmond
[09:01] <zazeem> can someone help me install a game that i extracted from a tar.gz file how do i install it/play??  i tried sh duel2-1.5.tar.gz but said it couldnt
[09:01] <eyequeue> hikaru79:  add the user to a group that has access, then relog the user
[09:01] <hikaru79> eyequeue, how do I give a group access?
[09:02] <crimsun> zazeem: you have to extract it first: tar xfz duel2-1.5.tar.gz
[09:02] <zenrox> zazeem,  *tar.gz files are like zips gots to un tar.gz them first
[09:02] <SigmaX> hikaru79: chmod 777 adrian /var/www
[09:02] <zazeem> i did that too
[09:02] <eyequeue> hikaru79:  example: sudo adduser adrian staff
[09:02] <zazeem> saved to homer dir
[09:02] <SigmaX> hikaru79: I think that's right...I might ahve the number wrong
[09:02] <crimsun> zazeem: so cd duel2-1.5 and run the executable(s)
[09:03] <zazeem> k
[09:03] <zazeem> thnx :)
[09:03] <nir> SigmaX, chmod 777??
[09:03] <eyequeue> hikaru79:  and sudo chgrp -R staff /var/www
[09:03] <crimsun> zazeem: if there aren't executables, then you must compile the source
[09:03] <SigmaX> nir: lol, I don't know what I'm thinking. too overstressed, stayed up to late :-P
[09:03] <zenwhen> F
[09:03] <SigmaX> chown! that's it. (yawn...)
[09:03] <juzteen> burning audio cds with k3b with no problem...why does it error when I make a cd to cd copy?
[09:04] <SigmaX> hikaru79: chown adrin /var/www
[09:04] <SigmaX> man I'm tired.  And I have work in ten minutes.
[09:04] <raiti1> how can i remove nvdias packages?
[09:04] <SigmaX> adrian*
[09:04] <zazeem> crimsun, hmm how do i execute executables or compile source
[09:04] <zazeem> cd duel2-1.5 i did that
[09:05] <crimsun> zazeem: ls --color=auto
[09:05] <zazeem> thnx
[09:05] <crimsun> zazeem: executables are coloured green
[09:05] <eyequeue> hikaru79:  and sudo chmod -R g+w /var/www
[09:05] <nir> zazeem, or ls -F
[09:06] <nir> the any exe will look like this exe*
[09:06] <nir> directories like this/
[09:06] <zazeem> no green ones
[09:06] <juzteen> why does k3b error when I burn a cd to cd copy?
[09:06] <zazeem> sh-2.05b$ ls --color=auto
[09:06] <zazeem> duel2.dat         duel2_maps        duel2_s.dat  Makefile  README  thund.wav
[09:06] <zazeem> duel2_highscores  duel2_readme.htm  logo.bmp     music     src
[09:06] <crimsun> zazeem: then most likely you need to compile it, since there's a Makefile
[09:06] <nir> zazeem, try to read the file called README
[09:06] <juzteen> why does k3b error when I burn a cd to cd copy?
[09:07] <zazeem> i did
[09:07] <SigmaX> eyequeue: You said I should have resolvconf installed and active, right?
[09:07] <zazeem> said no installation instructions, send me them! thats exacty what it says lol
[09:07] <eyequeue> SigmaX:  i was wondering if you did, right
[09:07] <SigmaX> I wasn't installed
[09:07] <crimsun> juzteen: we heard you the first two times, thanks. Have you checked the error logs, or if you can't find those, have you tried starting k3b from a Terminal or Konsole?
[09:07] <nir> hehe
[09:07] <SigmaX> it*
[09:07] <nir> zazeem, try make
[09:07] <zazeem> k
[09:07] <lizdeika> if i kill esd daemon i have sound in tuxracer, but no other sounds :)
[09:07] <eyequeue> SigmaX:  i'm curious whether it resets your dns server to whatevr it gets fed via dhcp
[09:08] <SigmaX> eyequeue:  Well apparently not, it wasn't even installed.  But afte rebooting is hasn't reverted so far... I'm hopeful.  Reminds me of Windows... if in doubt, reboot :-P.
[09:08] <juzteen> crimsun: I've been running k3b as root. burns torrent files from the harddrive ok. just errors when I try to make a disk to disk copy. or make a compile.
[09:09] <zazeem> how do i makefile ?
[09:09] <zazeem> sh makefile?
[09:09] <crimsun> zazeem: ,,make''
[09:09] <eyequeue> heh
[09:09] <crimsun> juzteen: "make a compile?"
[09:09] <juzteen> compilation
[09:10] <zazeem> make[1] : Entering directory `/home/zazeem/duel2-1.5/src' g++ -c duel2_8.cpp  o duel2_8.o   -s -O1 make[1] : g++: Command not found make[1] : ** [duel2_8.o]  Error 127 make[1] : Leaving directory `/home/zazeem/duel2-1.5/src' make: *** [all]  Error 2
[09:10] <juzteen> taking songs from other torrent files I downloaded and put them on a single audio disc
[09:10] <SigmaX> Looking good, thanx peeps.  Shoulda rebooted to start with... everything seems fine now :-P
[09:11] <zazeem> any ideas?
[09:13] <juzteen> So I need to configure yes.
[09:15] <juzteen> ?
[09:15] <juzteen> go flog myself...will do!
[09:16] <eyequeue> in xchat, how do i show joins/parts, i can't seem to find it again
[09:17] <eyequeue> nm
[09:18] <eyequeue> it's not in any menu, hence i couldn't find it, it's buried in a clicky thing
[09:18] <eyequeue> damn guis
[09:18] <klaym> do /join #channel
[09:19] <eyequeue> klaym:  it's a toggle called Show join/part messages
[09:19] <klaym> oh :)
[09:19] <klaym> I just needed to blurb something
[09:19] <eyequeue> you have to right click the tab, then go to a submenu
[09:21] <jono> hi all
[09:24] <gollum> hi, i installed Ubuntu now, and i didn`t get a question about the root password, whats this? :P
[09:25] <gollum> i can loginto a "root terminal"
[09:25] <[amasimak] > gollum, the first user created is configured to be able to launch any command with sudo
[09:26] <gollum> ok, thanks. But one more thing, i can`t seem to get my computer an ip from the router, what should i do then?
[09:26] <kent> gollum, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo  (explains some of it..)
[09:26] <eyequeue> gollum:  root account is disabled by default, for security
[09:26] <gollum> ok, but my biggest problem is the internet/LAN.
[09:26] <hikaru79> Is it possible to view Visual Basic scripts from Firefox?
[09:27] <eyequeue> gollum:  while you *can* enable it, there's no need and it's wise to consider carefully before doing so
[09:27] <eyequeue> hikaru79:  are they just text? ff can view text, yes
[09:27] <gollum> I dont need it now. But i need to get the comp on internet so i can start to configure it and shit :)
[09:28] <hikaru79> eyequeue, I mean, *run* embedded visual basic scripts.
[09:28] <eyequeue> hikaru79:  ff-on-ubuntu or ff-on-ms?
[09:29] <eyequeue> hikaru79:  ff-on-ms *might* have the option to enable that, but i've never been there to check
[09:29] <hikaru79> eyequeue, either.
[09:29] <hikaru79> Preferrably both, but if only MS can display ActiveX, that's OK
[09:29] <sbalegna> hi all, I can't install ubuntu in my notebook, can someone help me?
[09:30] <GollUbuntu> I need to get mine on internet :(
[09:30] <ironwolf> sbalegna: perhaps a more directed question?
[09:30] <eyequeue> but definitely ff-on-ubuntu can display the text of the script, so you can analyze what it would do, if that's your interest
[09:30] <FAST> so is there any way to get divx codecs for linux ?
[09:30] <eyequeue> sbalegna:  can't *because*...? :)
[09:30] <sbalegna> in the installation, when is loading pc card services crash
[09:30] <crimsun> FAST: see /wiki/RestrictedFormats
[09:31] <GollUbuntu> What is the command to renew ip adress on linux?
[09:31] <FAST> ok
[09:31] <pippin> GollUbuntu: dhclient eth0   # might help you
[09:31] <sbalegna> eyequeue after ask about idiomes
[09:31] <GollUbuntu> ah, thanks pippin :)
[09:32] <GollUbuntu> ah, thank u, just what i was looking for.
[09:32] <eyequeue> sbalegna:  i never used pc cards with my laptop, sorry it's not something i can help you with
[09:33] <sbalegna> anyway thanks eyequeue
[09:33] <sbalegna> i've installed in my pc, but i can't at my notebook :(
[09:33] <JStrike> Is there a meta package to install all the libs and packages needed for gnome dev. Really dont feel like doing this manually. Someone mentioned there would be an app similar to Fedora's package manager thing
[09:34] <eyequeue> sbalegna:  just a wild thought: can you install *without* pc card services, and then try adding that later?
[09:34] <sbalegna> where can I specify without pc card services? I don't know
[09:34] <eyequeue> you might get better error messages to help with diagnosis then
[09:35] <eyequeue> sbalegna:  in the installer, i had a yes/no question about pc cards
[09:35] <eyequeue> sbalegna:  though i chose "expert" install
[09:36] <sbalegna> eyequeue: thanks now I'll try it!
[09:36] <GammaRay> JStrike: libgnome-dev maybe
[09:38] <timothy> has anyone ever seen this message after connecting a USB flash drive?
[09:38] <timothy> usb 3-5: new high speed USB device using address 12
[09:38] <timothy> usb 3-5: device not accepting address 12, error -71
[09:42] <gryp> problem: with some cd's i put in i have no permission to read. any solution to fix this?
[09:43] <timothy> does anyone have any ideas about the flash drive?
[09:43] <JoePenguin> gryp: Did you burn them yourself?
[09:44] <gryp> JoePenguin: jep, other cds work.
[09:44] <Guardiann> timothy sorry mine just worked
[09:44] <gryp> JoePenguin: written under windows (nero) or mac (different progs)
[09:45] <JoePenguin> gryp: can you read them as root?
[09:45] <JoePenguin> gryp: can you even mount them?
[09:45] <dread65> whats the device name for cd rom drive in UBUNTU is it /dev/hdc ??
[09:46] <JoePenguin> dread65: it depends on if it is the master or slave on the primary or secondary IDE controller
[09:46] <dread65> ok if its master
[09:46] <dread65> what is it
[09:46] <JStrike> GammaRay : Surely that would be the dev file for libgnome?
[09:46] <gryp> JoePenguin: i can mount them, read them as root.
[09:46] <JoePenguin> it would be /dev/hda or /dev/hdc
[09:46] <dread65> what is /media/cdrom
[09:46] <JoePenguin> dread65: probably a symbolic link to /dev/hd(something)
[09:47] <gryp> JoePenguin: they have strange permissions: like 88080896:2504195940
[09:47] <Guardiann> dread65 mine are set up as hdc and hdd
[09:47] <JoePenguin> err
[09:47] <emanuelez> i have a problem with a pendrive
[09:47] <Guardiann> one is scdrom the other is dvd
[09:47] <emanuelez> it does not mount
[09:47] <emanuelez> :(
[09:47] <JoePenguin> dread65: wait, actually media cdrom is probably just an empty directory to use as a mount point
[09:47] <dread65> i jsut want to specify where the cd rom drive is
[09:47] <dread65> how do i find it
[09:48] <gryp> JoePenguin: with perms i mean user:group, perms are 500
[09:48] <JoePenguin> gryp: ok, so when you burned them you probably told your application to preserve file permissions, instead of using generic (anonymous) permissions
[09:48] <delltony> does wma not workin xmms or something? i tried the suggestion of xmms-wma from the ubuntuforum but no luck :(
[09:48] <GollUbuntu> hi
[09:48] <dread65> i tried cd into /dev/hdd etc.. but it doesnt work
[09:48] <dread65> it says not a directory
[09:48] <GollUbuntu> I need to enable the root account to install my gfx drivers..
[09:48] <JoePenguin> dread65: you can't "cd" to a device. you have to mount it somewhere first like this: "mount /dev/hdc /media/cdrom"
[09:48] <Guardiann> delltony did you add the wm32 codec
[09:48] <gryp> JoePenguin: any idea to ignore this? or disable Rockridge extensions?
[09:48] <delltony> yes
[09:49] <delltony> mplayer plays it no problem xmms hates it
[09:49] <JoePenguin> gryp: I'm not aware of a way to do that off the top of my head. Read the "mount" man pageand look for the iso9660 section
[09:49] <delltony> i looked in the plugins and the wma plugin is there but i get no sound :(
[09:49] <gryp> JoePenguin: im busy, tnx for the help
[09:49] <JoePenguin> gryp: i'm busy too. you're welcome
[09:49] <Guardiann> maybe your sound plugin is set wrong
[09:50] <dread65> JoePenguin:  how do i find out what the system link to something is
[09:50] <delltony> very possible
[09:50] <delltony> it is set to oss
[09:50] <dread65> like whats the system link to /media/cdrom
[09:50] <emanuelez> what should i mount?
[09:50] <JoePenguin> dread65: ls -l file
[09:50] <Guardiann> try changing it to
[09:50] <Guardiann> essound
[09:51] <delltony> well the problem is it doesn't play
[09:51] <emanuelez> Initializing USB Mass Storage driver...
[09:51] <emanuelez> scsi0 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices
[09:51] <emanuelez> USB Mass Storage device found at 6
[09:51] <emanuelez> usbcore: registered new driver usb-storage
[09:51] <emanuelez> USB Mass Storage support registered.
[09:51] <emanuelez> dmesg
[09:51] <[amasimak] > GollUbuntu, can't you use sudo ? something like 'sudo ./installation-script' ?
[09:51] <gryp> JoePenguin: adding the 'norock' options seems the easiest way, or 'mode='
[09:51] <GollUbuntu> hmm, i can trie
[09:51] <Guardiann> ok thought you said you get no sound sorry
[09:51] <GollUbuntu> hold that thought ;9
[09:51] <delltony> is there an offical ubuntu file for xmms-wma? maybe thats my problem
[09:52] <Guardiann> the wm32 codec worked for me
[09:52] <Guardiann> does your xmms work with anything?
[09:52] <dread65> JoePenguin:  i am trying to get vmware to boot a cd
[09:52] <GollUbuntu> it worked [amasimak]  ;)
[09:52] <dread65> oh nm i finally got it
[09:52] <delltony> hmm
[09:52] <[amasimak] > you're welcome
[09:52] <delltony> strange how mplayer plays it fine
[09:52] <delltony> but the xmms doesn't
[09:53] <Guardiann> delltony does xmms play anything?
[09:53] <emanuelez> anyone helping me?
[09:53] <delltony> sure
[09:53] <GollUbuntu> but nvidia dont have a driver for my kernel :(
[09:53] <delltony> plays websites fine
[09:53] <delltony> and other media
[09:53] <GollUbuntu> i need gcc or something
[09:54] <CyberSnooP> How do I know if removing packages will damage my system?
[09:54] <GollUbuntu> nvm, screw the gfx :)
[09:54] <CyberSnooP> (I'm just curious if I can remove lvm / evms / raid stuff because I don't use it, but it is part of ubuntu-base)
[09:54] <dread65> CyberSnooP: just guess
[09:54] <klaxnek> hi! someone know a way to changing the default compiler to gcc-3.4.3 in hoary?
[09:54] <Guardiann> CyberSnooP you wont be able to boot after you remove them :)
[09:54] <abelli> what parameter for wxga fram buffer?
[09:55] <[amasimak] > GollUbuntu, ahve you tried the ubuntu package of nvidia drivers (nvidia-glx and friends) ?
[09:55] <FAST> is there a way to set totem player to use a specific sound card?
[09:55] <CyberSnooP> Guardiann: Why is that? I don't use any of them, doesn't dpkg remove the init scripts and stuff cleanly?
[09:56] <Guardiann> not sure I was saying if you remove something you shouldnt you will know when you reboot
[09:56] <dread65> CyberSnooP: no not really
[09:56] <[amasimak] > CyberSnooP, you can remove them safely
[09:56] <emanuelez> why doens't my pendrive mount automaticallt?
[09:56] <dread65> but i dont know anything
[09:57] <Guardiann> dread65 same her :)
[09:57] <dread65> its good we are giving advice then
[09:57] <dread65> lol
[09:57] <Guardiann> or here for that matter
[09:57] <[amasimak] > emanuelez, is gnome-volume-manager running ?
[09:57] <Guardiann> yeah no kidding
[09:57] <abelli> has someone ever heard of this printer: minolta magiclaser 2300w?
[09:58] <emanuelez> [amasimak] : yes it is
[09:58] <emanuelez> 1000      6546  0.0  1.2  17136  6584 ?        Ss   21:33   0:00 gnome-volume-manager --sm-client-id default5
[10:01] <Rattboi24> I just was running ubuntu live cd for PPC on an iBook g4
[10:01] <Rattboi24> worked pretty damn good
[10:01] <Rattboi24> couldn't get mp3s playing for some reason though
[10:01] <emanuelez> what device should i mount for a usb pendrive?
[10:01] <Rattboi24> oh well
[10:02] <zazeem> can someone plz help i cant load gltron :( gltron: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[10:02] <GammaRay> Rattboi24: need to install gstreamer-mad
[10:02] <Rattboi24> I did
[10:03] <Rattboi24> I'm not sure if that was the problem, or something about permissions on my HFS+ mount
[10:04] <Rattboi24> but it would crash because of the gstreamer-mad plugin/lib/whatever
[10:04] <website> is there a metapackage on ubuntu to install all the stuff for make a developer pc?
[10:04] <zazeem> can someone plz help i cant load gltron :( gltron: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[10:04] <Rattboi24> doesn't mean it wasn't file permissions though, if Rhythmbox passed the plugin a locked file
[10:05] <hitu> zazeem: think u need libstdc++ :P
[10:05] <[amasimak] > emanuelez, if you don't have any other scsi device, you can try /dev/sda1
[10:05] <zazeem> lol :P thnx
[10:05] <eyequeue> website:  start with sudo apt-get install build-essential
[10:05] <hitu> just do a apt-get install libstdc++
[10:05] <zazeem> sweet :D
[10:05] <delltony> hmm maybe ill try my luck on another issue anyone here use paltalk by chance and if so how do you get it to run in wine?
[10:06] <website> eyequeue, and then
[10:06] <emanuelez> no /dev/sda1
[10:06] <eyequeue> website:  then i would browse in the devel section using dselect, but you can use aptitude or whatever tool you choose
[10:07] <website> uhm.. ok
[10:07] <zazeem> :o
[10:08] <Dishwasher> What kind of chat client for linux do you guys use?  Or what do you prefer?
[10:09] <Dishwasher> My friends and I are looking to have a chat client always logged in, so we don't mess with each other while we're logged into a server.
[10:09] <GammaRay> depends on the medium
[10:09] <eyequeue> Dishwasher:  i am using xchat, i prefer irssi
[10:10] <abelli> FireEgl: erc in emacs, or irssi
[10:10] <abelli> FireEgl: sorry
[10:10] <GammaRay> Dishwasher: I run a jabber server and use gaim as the client
[10:10] <abelli> Dishwasher: AA
[10:10] <Dishwasher> eyequeue:  do you have to create some type of login in account.  Like msn or or yahoo?
[10:10] <eyequeue> Dishwasher:  as you can see, tastes differ :)
[10:10] <Dishwasher> lol
[10:10] <Dishwasher> i see
[10:11] <eyequeue> Dishwasher:  no, though you *can* do '/msg NickServ help register' if you like
[10:11] <Dishwasher> which does what?
[10:11] <GammaRay> Dishwasher: but there are many different jabber clients for many OSs
[10:11] <LinuxJones> The NVidia Binary Drivers seem to be whining about some Failure Reading EDID Parameters and will not load. I just installed Hoary has anybody seen this ?
[10:11] <eyequeue> Dishwasher:  gives you help on how to register, if you so choose
[10:11] <Dishwasher> oh
[10:11] <Dishwasher> cool
[10:11] <Dishwasher> thanks eyequeue
[10:11] <Dishwasher> youve helpe me in the past
[10:11] <eyequeue> Dishwasher:  example, if you want to reserve the nick Dishwasher so only you can use it
[10:11] <Dishwasher> i appreciate it
[10:12] <eyequeue> np
[10:12] <Dishwasher> oh
[10:12] <Dishwasher> gotcha
[10:12] <Dishwasher> i will go find it now
[10:12] <rempresent> how do i copy files from my fpt server
[10:12] <mitchlgary> Anyone get the Citrix ICA client to run on Ubuntu for PowerPC?
[10:13] <LinuxJones> rempresent, you can install a good ftp client like gftp
[10:13] <thread> the file protocol of transfers?
[10:13] <rempresent> ok
[10:13] <rempresent> thanks
[10:13] <[keiichi] > newserver rizon
[10:14] <[keiichi] > sorry
[10:17] <bitfoo> sup :O
[10:18] <zazeem> any way to get a gl tron icon in games menu???????/
[10:19] <mjt> what ubuntu apt does with "package authentication"?  After upgrading to ubuntu, apt keeps warning me that it can't authenticate packages...
[10:20] <mjt> s/ubuntu/hoary/
[10:20] <Sav> Most of my screensavers are very laggy, i have Dell D800 Geforce 4 GO, iv installed all nvidia drivers with synaptic, any ideas?
[10:21] <zazeem> how do i install a game, file is rover-0.8-data.tgz
[10:21] <aToaster> ls
[10:21] <aToaster> oops
[10:21] <aToaster> lol
[10:21] <zazeem> ?
[10:21] <zazeem> lol?
[10:21] <zazeem> :(
[10:22] <aToaster> wrong window ; )
[10:22] <zazeem> lol
[10:22] <zazeem> how do i install a game, file is rover-0.8-data.tgz
[10:22] <timothy> how can I install a C compiler in ubuntu? (is there one on the install CD that I just missed that I can easily install?)
[10:22] <aToaster> Anyone want to try to work with me to get the new ATI drivers to work?  I think I've made some headway, but I think I need an extra head ; )
[10:22] <Sav> tar -zxvf rover-0.8-data.tgz then read the README
[10:23] <zazeem> is no readme
[10:23] <hitu> zazeem: tar xzvf rover-0.8-data.tgz
[10:23] <aToaster> timothy: doesn't gcc come with ubuntu?
[10:23] <hitu> zazeem: go into that directory and do a ./configure --help
[10:23] <hitu> or may be read the INSTALL file
[10:23] <timothy> aToaster: I thought so, but when I tried to install a version of gaim it told me that there wasn't a valid C compiler...
[10:23] <timothy> aToaster: configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[10:24] <aToaster> timothy: run synaptic package manager and install gcc
[10:24] <GammaRay> Sav: did you run the command in the desctiption for nvidia-glx?
[10:24] <aToaster> timothy: if it's not there that is
[10:24] <aToaster> Anyone try messing with the new ATI drivers yet?
[10:24] <Sav> aToaster, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:25] <Sav> GammaRay, hmm what command? maby i missed that
[10:25] <GammaRay> Sav: 'To enable the driver, run "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable"'
[10:25] <aToaster> Sav: yea, those are the old drivers
[10:25] <Sav> aToaster,  ok.
[10:25] <Sav> GammaRay, thx
[10:26] <eyequeue> aToaster:  timothy: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[10:26] <aToaster> eyequeue: ah right, ;)
[10:27] <timothy> eyequeue: aToaster: thanks, both
[10:27] <zazeem> i dloaded sdl1.2.8 how do i install it
[10:27] <hitu> lol zazeem
[10:27] <eyequeue> zazeem:  see the guide in the /topic
[10:27] <zazeem> they are all in a .rpm archive/file thingy
[10:27] <hitu> what extension is it
[10:27] <zazeem> ?
[10:27] <zazeem> guide in topic?
[10:28] <Cube-ness> hey.. running hoary here.. serveral updates back i lost all the icons for most mime types, and the icons in "computer" and "network" are not working.. something i can do to  correct this?
[10:28] <eyequeue> zazeem:  /topic
[10:28] <eyequeue> zazeem:  /topic <-- type that command
[10:28] <aToaster> ls
[10:28] <aToaster> dangit! keep typing that in wrong window
[10:28] <aToaster> lol
[10:29] <zazeem> zazeem@workgroup:~ $ /topic
[10:29] <zazeem> bash: /topic: No such file or directory
[10:29] <eyequeue> zazeem:  in irc
[10:30] <zazeem> oo i c :D
[10:30] <zazeem> danke
[10:30] <eyequeue> the guide explains
[10:33] <zazeem> doesnt have anything about installing a lib
[10:34] <aToaster> fireglcontrol
[10:34] <bitfoo> utz utz utz utz utz
[10:35] <zazeem> that guide doesnt say anything about how to install libs...
[10:35] <bitfoo> which lib
[10:35] <bitfoo> sudo apt-get install libname
[10:35] <bitfoo> :|
[10:35] <bitfoo> apt-cache search libname
[10:35] <bitfoo> :|
[10:35] <eyequeue> i think he wants to alien something
[10:35] <bitfoo> oh
[10:36] <eyequeue> keeps talking about :downloaded:
[10:36] <bitfoo> alien what
[10:36] <eyequeue> various games that i don't know, so far, heh
[10:36] <zazeem> a lib i downloaded
[10:36] <bitfoo> what is it for
[10:36] <bitfoo> ?
[10:37] <bitfoo> there are lots of sdl's in apt :/
[10:37] <christor> is someone has an idea how to use mplayer with a proxy?
[10:37] <zazeem> its for games
[10:38] <neighborlee> sorry guys for the 'name change' ..sometimes I forget I'm on so MaNY other channels....this was a 'had to be there' to understand....my appologies <<<
[10:38] <zazeem> i dloaded SDL-1.2.8-1.i386.rpm
[10:38] <bitfoo> yes
[10:38] <bitfoo> but which game
[10:38] <zazeem> umm
[10:38] <bitfoo> gameboy? sega?
[10:38] <zazeem> nazguhl-0.3.1.tar.gz
[10:38] <bitfoo> libsdl1.2debian-all
[10:38] <zazeem> >?
[10:38] <zazeem> apt get?
[10:38] <faxons> how do you upgrade to horay?
[10:38] <bitfoo> libsdl1.2debian-all - Simple DirectMedia Layer (with all available options)
[10:38] <bitfoo> yeah apt-get
[10:39] <bitfoo> i think it is universe though
[10:39] <bitfoo> or multiverse :|
[10:39] <zazeem> zazeem@workgroup:~ $ apt-get libsdl1.2debian-all
[10:39] <zazeem> E: Invalid operation libsdl1.2debian-all
[10:39] <bitfoo> apt-get install
[10:39] <bitfoo> :|
[10:39] <bitfoo> and
[10:39] <bitfoo> well
[10:39] <bitfoo> sudo apt-get install
[10:39] <bitfoo> :|
[10:39] <zazeem> :D
[10:39] <zazeem> danke
[10:40] <timothy> are new versions of OpenOffice and gaim available through the apt-get update/upgrade commands?
[10:40] <bitfoo> maybe in the backports timothy
[10:40] <hikaru79> timothy, Hoary and backports have the newest versions
[10:40] <zazeem> how do i play the game now
[10:41] <zazeem> nazguhl-0.3.1.tar.gz
[10:41] <zazeem> ?
[10:41] <bitfoo> tar xvf  nazguhl-0.3.1.tar.gz
[10:41] <timothy> bitfoo: hikaru79: backports? and where can I get Hoary?
[10:41] <bitfoo> backports is a repository which takes the newer packages from hoary and makes them work on warty
[10:42] <timothy> bitfoo: where can I find backports? and after, where do I find packages from hoary?
[10:42] <christor> is it better to start from a kernel 2.6.8-386 or oon a 2.6.7-686
[10:42] <mameluke> somebody knows about latex? i have a problem using a different font over several \par 's
[10:42] <bitfoo> backports is umm
[10:43] <bitfoo> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8486
[10:43] <bitfoo> you add those to your sources.list :|
[10:43] <zazeem> zazeem@workgroup:~ $ /home/zazeem/nazghul-0.3.1/install-sh
[10:43] <zazeem> install:        no input file specified?
[10:43] <bitfoo> or in synaptic
[10:44] <bitfoo> zazeem, if the file ends in sh you just type "sh filename.sh"
[10:44] <bitfoo> :|
[10:44] <bitfoo> and timothy, if you want to upgrade to hoary you edit your sources.list and change all instances of warty to hoary
[10:44] <bitfoo> then apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:44] <eyequeue> i think he needs to see the README
[10:47] <timothy> bitfoo: where is sources.list located?
[10:48] <bitfoo> its located in /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:48] <zazeem> bitfoo, that didnt work the install file is the the /nazghul-0.3.1 in my home directory
[10:48] <timothy> bitfoo: thanks
[10:49] <bitfoo> zazeem you should read the README file in that directory
[10:49] <bitfoo> it will probably tell you how to install it...
[10:49] <zazeem> doesnt have obe
[10:50] <zazeem> they are lazy in all these little free games no readmes
[10:52] <bitfoo> theres a file called INSTALL
[10:52] <bitfoo> :|
[10:52] <bitfoo> i just downoaded that damn game to check it :/
[10:52] <mjt> what to do so that apt can
[10:52] <mjt> what to do so that apt can "authenticate" packages?
[10:53] <bitfoo> authenticate?
[10:54] <mjt> apt: WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! [list of all pkgs to install/upgrade] 
[10:55] <bitfoo> did you select no
[10:55] <bitfoo> :O
[10:55] <shock> m00h
[10:55] <shock> hoi bitfoo
[10:56] <bitfoo> hoi shock
[10:57] <timothy> bitfoo: after adding all the extra sources (warty backports stable , staging, warty extras stable, staging) is there anything else I need to do (except apt-get update and apt-get upgrade) for it to work?
[10:58] <punkrockguy318> how can I rerun the automatic xfree configuartion?
[11:00] <neighborlee> hey guys..anyone know why the linux-source ( only one that comes close anyway) doesn't work to compile nvidia manually ??
[11:00] <neighborlee> the versions are not of by much but they are...
[11:00] <neighborlee> of/off
[11:01] <rempresent> Question:  I was booting into UBUNTU just now and I had a list of "Buffer I/O read errors" how can I check my log file to see what the problem is and remedy it?
[11:01] <neighborlee> 2.6.8.1-3-386 < out of box ubuntu kernel..yet linux-source ( only one close) available from synaptic is: 2.6.8.1-16-386
[11:01] <bitfoo> no toimoy
[11:01] <bitfoo> but remember staging is unstable
[11:01] <bitfoo> :|
[11:02] <bitfoo> or untested
[11:02] <bitfoo> or something
[11:02] <bitfoo> :|
[11:02] <LinuxJones> neighborlee, they have to be exactly the same
[11:02] <neighborlee> LinuxJones, correct..that is why i'm having problems...but there is NO such linux-source available faik ??
[11:02] <bitfoo> what cpu do you have :|
[11:03] <LinuxJones> neighborlee, yeah it happens from time to time as most folks just use the Ubuntu drivers
[11:03] <neighborlee> LinuxJones, I do too
[11:03] <neighborlee> LinuxJones, i'm very glad they offer them and are definitely the preferred route for alot of users....i'm very glad they offer them yes
[11:03] <neighborlee> LinuxJones, so I'm just going to forget about it..not a big deal
[11:04] <neighborlee> LinuxJones, but I hope they remedy it cause some users will find this unacceptable
[11:04] <LinuxJones> Speaking of them,  the NVidia Binary Drivers seem to be whining about some Failure Reading EDID Parameters and will not load. I just installed Hoary has anybody seen this ?
[11:04] <LinuxJones> neighborlee, yeah
[11:05] <bitfoo> i use superior ati technology so no not me :|
[11:05] <faxons> I'm trying to upgrade a new install of warty to horay but get a 404 when running apt-get update
[11:05] <bitfoo> well it is spellt hoary ;|
[11:05] <bitfoo> maybe check your spelling in sources.list :O
[11:05] <neighborlee> LinuxJones, ouch glad im not  using hoary atm then..id die without my nvidia drivers LOL
[11:05] <neighborlee> bitfoo, heheh
[11:06] <bitfoo> :] 
[11:06] <rempresent> Question:  I was booting into UBUNTU just now and I had a list of "Buffer I/O read errors" how can I check my log file to see what the problem is and remedy it?
[11:06] <LinuxJones> neighborlee, I am needing my Quake3 Rocket Arena fix
[11:06] <rempresent> can anyone help me with that?
[11:06] <faxons> what would I do without you guys
[11:06] <faxons> thanks bitfoo
[11:06] <bitfoo> :P
[11:06] <bitfoo> i dunno rempresent, but if you find out where the log is let me know
[11:07] <bitfoo> cuz there are some things i want to check too :|
[11:07] <bitfoo> maybe ask in ##linux
[11:07] <rempresent> where is the log?  for the startup file...
[11:07] <rempresent> i don't know where it is eitherl
[11:07] <bitfoo> me neither :|
[11:07] <rempresent> i will check there real fast
[11:07] <rempresent> hold
[11:07] <LinuxJones> rempresent, are you on the system now ?
[11:08] <bitfoo> i am :|
[11:09] <mjt> woops. complete system lockup when inserting an pcmcia card.. ;)
[11:09] <bitfoo> i want to know what all these .ko errors and other fatals are :|
[11:09] <neighborlee> LinuxJones, lol
[11:09] <neighborlee> LinuxJones, you know I have quake3 too actually...I LOVE those trampolines LOL
[11:09] <LinuxJones> neighborlee, heh
[11:11] <bitfoo> the files are IN the computer?????!?!?!?
[11:12] <bitfoo> is quake3 free?
[11:13] <LinuxJones> bitfoo, no but you can buy it for like 3 dollars now :P
[11:13] <sipstar> not yet ;)
[11:14] <bitfoo> buy?
[11:14] <bitfoo> whats that mean :|
[11:14] <netmonk> can someone tell me how to check what window manager I am using in Ubuntu?
[11:14] <thread> netmonk: metacity
[11:14] <bitfoo> the default is gdm i thought :O
[11:14] <Agrajag> gdm isn't a window manager
[11:14] <thread> gdm is the gnome display manager.. it handles the graphical login
[11:14] <bitfoo> ahhh
[11:14] <thread> and x session management
[11:15] <bitfoo> i understand sensei :|
[11:15] <bitfoo> so whats a window manager do then :|
[11:15] <Agrajag> it manages windows
[11:15] <bitfoo> thats not very helpful
[11:15] <bitfoo> why do windows need management :|
[11:15] <netmonk> I wrote meatcity --replace in shell and I did Ctrl+c I don't have a title bar
[11:15] <eyequeue> you throw the manager out a window
[11:16] <dbt`veritas> gnome does all the froo froo stuff, like add panels and what not...window managers display directories as as windows and files(thats at least my understanding of it)
[11:16] <bitfoo> ahh ok
[11:16] <Agrajag> dbt`veritas: uh no
[11:16] <thread> what-huh?
[11:16] <Agrajag> that's a file manager
[11:16] <thread> window managers manage your windows.. the bars around them, allowing you to resize etc
[11:16] <FAST> a window manager provides the UI and widgets (buttons etc) so you can control windows
[11:16] <Agrajag> a window manager manages windows, puts title bars and borders around them and so on
[11:16] <netmonk> thread, any ideas how I can fix that?
[11:16] <shock> ll....
[11:16] <bitfoo> wierd, i would have thought that is what gnome did ;|
[11:17] <thread> netmonk: why were you trying to metacity --replace ? was your metacity broken?
[11:17] <bitfoo> so strange all the management is splintered so much :|
[11:17] <bitfoo> makes thing overly complicated :|
[11:17] <shock> gnome == a desktop environment coordinating a windowmanager (metacity) and filemanager (nautilus) as well as other spplications in a nice package
[11:17] <shock> :)
[11:17] <shock> u COULD also run only metacity and nautilus by themselves
[11:18] <thread> (in gentoo, atm)
[11:18] <K-Rich> Anyone manage to compile Xvidcap on Warty?
[11:18] <shock> :)
[11:18] <shock> openbox is nice - only metacity is better integrated into gnome
[11:18] <bitfoo> o_O
[11:18] <M3ta> sawfish roxx metacity's butt :)
[11:18] <thread> openbox is better integrated into my brain
[11:18] <shock> *g*
[11:19] <LinuxJones> K-Rich, xvidcap is available for download
[11:19] <shock> used to run it for 2 years on my a20p *g*
[11:19] <shock> yeah
[11:19] <shock> thats what i was running actually
[11:19] <shock> *remembers*
[11:19] <shock> that was a loooong time ago
[11:19] <netmonk> thread, I thought I was not with metacity, that's why wrote metacity --replace but now I don't have a title bar and few things on the bottom bar do not function
[11:20] <K-Rich> LinuxJones: since when?
[11:20] <K-Rich> wasn't last week heh
[11:20] <thread> netmonk: so you have no window manager anymore? try just launching metacity again, or just restart your x session
[11:20] <LinuxJones> K-Rich, sorry I just upgraded to Hoary :D
[11:20] <netmonk> how to restart the x session?
[11:20] <thread> netmonk: log out, log in
[11:21] <netmonk> thread, :) thanks, but doesn't change anything ;)
[11:21] <K-Rich> LinuxJones: I'd do so but i heard my menus would get borked as well as not be able to add to them :/
[11:21] <bitfoo> my brain is fried :|
[11:21] <thread> netmonk: I don't understand... you killed your wm, right? restarting your session should restore it.
[11:21] <LinuxJones> K-Rich, it is nice but Nvidia Binary Drivers are giving me troubles :(
[11:22] <netmonk> thread, I log out, I log in, I restart - it's the same
[11:22] <K-Rich> LinuxJones: have you had issues with the menus yet?
[11:22] <thread> netmonk: describe exactly what's wrong.
[11:22] <LinuxJones> K-Rich, no
[11:22] <K-Rich> Does anyone know if xvidcap from hoary will work on warty ?
[11:23] <bitfoo> man has anyone noticed firefox taking REALLY long on certain dynamic sites, such as forums
[11:23] <LinuxJones> K-Rich, you have universe added to your apt sources.list ?
[11:24] <K-Rich> sure do as well as multiverse and a few others
[11:24] <bitfoo> xvidcap - Screen video capture for X
[11:24] <bitfoo> from warty :|
[11:24] <LinuxJones> K-Rich, you probably have to do an apt-get update
[11:24] <netmonk> thread, in shell I wrote metacity, I got the message that I have another window manager running and should put --replace, which I did. After I did ctrl+c metacity closed, but I don't have title bar and few functions of the bottom panel do not work.
[11:24] <K-Rich> bitfoo: can you do 'apt-cache show xvidcap' and tell me where it's from?
[11:24] <[amasimak] > apt-cache search xvidcap gives me nothing in hoary (with universe and multivers)
[11:25] <thread> netmonk: ah.. go to the menu, run command
[11:25] <LinuxJones> xvidcap - Screen video capture for X
[11:25] <thread> netmonk: and run "metacity"
[11:25] <bitfoo> its from marillat :|
[11:25] <[amasimak] > ok
[11:25] <LinuxJones> ahh
[11:26] <netmonk> thread, it worked thank you very much
[11:26] <netmonk> :)
[11:26] <thread> netmonk: np
[11:26] <K-Rich> bitfoo: which do you have in your sources;list, testing stable or unstable ?
[11:26] <K-Rich> deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ testing main
[11:26] <bitfoo> Filename: dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/xvidcap_1.1.3-0.0_i386.deb
[11:26] <K-Rich> is what i have
[11:26] <K-Rich> unstable
[11:26] <bitfoo> yeh
[11:26] <K-Rich> let me try that
[11:27] <bitfoo> i only have unstable main
[11:27] <bitfoo> i guess i should add testing?
[11:27] <bitfoo>  :|
[11:27] <K-Rich> i dunno, i only have testing and it hasn't been working to well
[11:27] <K-Rich> (dor mplayer at least)
[11:27] <K-Rich> s/dor/for
[11:28] <Scognito> hi all
[11:28] <Scognito> can i use framebuffer with nvidia driver without recompiling the kernel?
[11:28] <Scognito>  /dev/fb* doesn't exist but fb modules are loaded
[11:29] <K-Rich> bitfoo: thank you man... that worked
[11:29] <bitfoo> np
[11:30] <bitfoo> im going to the lug meeting at my school tomorrow and asking someone to fix my acpi crap for me :|
[11:30] <LarstiQ> K-Rich: oh hello :)
[11:30] <K-Rich> lots of crap acpi issues with linux in general imho
[11:31] <bitfoo> yes
[11:31] <bitfoo> but it is more of an issue with the manufacturers i think :|
[11:31] <bitfoo> not sticking to standards etc
[11:31] <LarstiQ> acpi being a rather braindead "standard" to boot
[11:32] <K-Rich> LarstiQ!!!!!!
[11:33] <K-Rich> LarstiQ: you moved to ubuntu ?
[11:33] <LarstiQ> K-Rich: not really :)
[11:33] <hitu> damn this kernel is taking awful lot of time to compile
[11:33] <K-Rich> just playing with it?
[11:33] <LarstiQ> K-Rich: still running sid, but mixed in some X.org packages
[11:33] <hitu> ehehe
[11:34] <LarstiQ> K-Rich: I very much like Ubuntu, even if I'm not running it personally :)
[11:34] <K-Rich> LarstiQ: from hoary ?
[11:34] <LarstiQ> K-Rich: yeah
[11:34] <shock> ok - who here is something one would call a linux-user? (5 years and more experience)?
[11:34] <shock> and what is your favorite wm and why?
[11:34] <shock> myself I am really fond of fvwm2 *g*
[11:34] <K-Rich> i've been considering that.... just to play with the transparent stuff... but no need really
[11:34] <eyequeue> shock:  over 5 years here, not under two months of gui
[11:35] <shock> lol
[11:35] <eyequeue> but under
[11:35] <K-Rich> twm baybee!
[11:35] <shock> :D
[11:35] <eyequeue> so i have no favorite wm, i'm trying to force myself to learn gui
[11:35] <shock> tried twm some time....
[11:35] <aquarius> Bygfoot, the football manager game, is in Debian sid (and, I think, hoary). What's the best way of getting my not-very-technical mate, running warty, to be able to install it?
[11:35] <LarstiQ> K-Rich: ah, faster dri drivers is the selling point for me :)
[11:35] <quitte> oh you 1337 kiddies
[11:35] <K-Rich> LarstiQ: heh i moved to ubuntu after i tried the live CD and realized most the stuff was more current than in sid
[11:35] <shock> I like gnome.... actually....
[11:35] <bitfoo> wow
[11:35] <bitfoo> theres a doom boardgame :|
[11:36] <LarstiQ> shock: that's ok :)
[11:36] <shock> even though running xterm on fvwm2 basically covers all I need
[11:36] <K-Rich> LarstiQ: no dri here, nvidi (for now) looking into an ATI all-in-wonder raedeon
[11:36] <shock> maybe some browser for the daily comics *g*
[11:36] <FAST> hmm.... i got divx videos to play, installed nicotine, installed azureus.....  what else is there to do
[11:36] <LarstiQ> K-Rich: you know I'm on ppc, so even if I wanted, no binary drivers for me :)
[11:37] <shock> hey - am running on ppc, too =)
[11:37] <shock> fellow victim
[11:37] <K-Rich> LarstiQ: really... what kinda of system may i ask (i assume apple?)
[11:38] <K-Rich> LarstiQ: I'm looking into the Mac Mini myself
[11:38] <LarstiQ> K-Rich: PowerBook G4 is what I work with daily, but I also deal with a Pegasos from time to time
[11:38] <AndyRR> lo all
[11:38] <LarstiQ> K-Rich: the Mini is small! :)
[11:39] <LarstiQ> shock: victim? ;)
[11:39] <K-Rich> LarstiQ: yeah... sweet little box though and not to shabby on the price :)
[11:39] <bitfoo> anyone know why my mplayer plugin for firefox wont play sound? :|
[11:39] <K-Rich> bitfoo: which plugin ?
[11:39] <bitfoo> mplayer
[11:40] <bitfoo> i guess its quicktime or something since im watching a trailer from apple :/
[11:40] <LarstiQ> bitfoo: ah, that might have something to do with unsupported (audio) codecs then
 shock: victim? ;) <--- well ATI speaking we shurely are, no?
[11:41] <AndyRR> am i right in thinking that if i download a hoary snapshot iso and burn it i could add it as a repository to update a number of hoary installs?
[11:41] <shock> but i have high hopes in this... erm.. what was it called? r300-project ?
[11:41] <shock> or something
[11:41] <LarstiQ> shock: there is r300 development in dri, yes
[11:41] <shock> :)
[11:41] <LarstiQ> shock: but I have a M7, r100 based card, so that doesn't affect me
[11:41] <FAST> what is the screen resolution height that goes with 1152 for width
[11:41] <FAST> 764?
[11:42] <shock> I am pretty interested in this opengl sl2 stuff they are doing
[11:42] <shock> need that for university
[11:42] <LarstiQ> sl2?
[11:42] <hitu> 768
[11:42] <shock> shading language
[11:42] <LarstiQ> doh, yes
[11:42] <shock> :)
[11:42] <FAST> thanks
[11:43] <LarstiQ> shock: what do you do for university then?
[11:43] <shock> well.... we are building a library to calculate FEMs on the GPU ;)
[11:43] <pippin>  FAST: depends,. if the screen is 4:3 ,. 1152x864 would be correct for a square spacing of the sampling grid,..
[11:43] <shock> and privately I am working with a bunch of friends on this: http://www.blue-fungus.org/
[11:44] <shock> oh holy c*ap
[11:44] <shock> I need to upload the new page O_o
[11:44] <shock> will do that tomorrow
[11:44] <FAST> pippin: thanks for the correction, that's what i was looking for
[11:45] <LarstiQ> shock: but, what is it? :)
[11:46] <Espectro> hey i am trying the live cd for ppc
[11:46] <Espectro> it loaded on 640x480 and i cant change it
[11:47] <Espectro> and i dont know how to right click on the powerbook
[11:47] <Espectro> command ctrl or alt click dont work
[11:47] <Scognito> does someone uses framebuffer devices?
[11:47] <LarstiQ> Espectro: X, no ctrl-alt-(- or +) to switch?
[11:47] <LarstiQ> Scognito: yes
[11:47] <Espectro> no
[11:47] <FAST> is there a way to force X to run at a certain frequency?    I know my monitor can do 1024x768 @ 85Hz, but X is running it at 75Hz
[11:47] <Scognito> LarstiQ, did you recompiled the kernel?
[11:47] <Espectro> the gnome screen app only lists 640 480
[11:47] <LarstiQ> Espectro: usually, one maps keys with sysctl for right and middle clicking
[11:48] <shock> or u plug in a mouse ;)
[11:48] <Espectro> well i thought the live cd would do that
[11:48] <Espectro> i am lost without right click
[11:48] <LarstiQ> Scognito: on ppc, there is no such thing as text mode, so I _have_ to use a framebuffer anyway
[11:48] <Espectro> shock, not an option on a laptop
[11:48] <pippin> FAST: you need to adjust the horizonal and vertical frequency ranges of the monitor in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4
[11:48] <shock> hmkay... I allways carry a mouse with a shortened cable with me :)
[11:48] <Scognito> LarstiQ, did you recompiled the kernel?
[11:49] <LarstiQ> Espectro: I actually carry a mouse around with my powerbook, but let me get you some sysctl magic
[11:49] <FAST> pippin, i was looking at that. it says 50-85;
[11:49] <LarstiQ> Scognito: yes
[11:49] <Scognito> ah ok
[11:49] <spudse_installUb> hello
[11:49] <Espectro> LarstiQ, ok
[11:49] <shock> :)
[11:49] <Scognito> i tought ubuntu enabled framebuffer
[11:49] <Scognito> but it is not true
[11:49] <Espectro> on macosx i use sidetrack which lets me map a virtual wheel into the touchpad
[11:49] <spudse_installUb> I have some problems with Ubuntu (I did search the forum first)
[11:49] <Espectro> and right click on a corner of the touchpad
[11:50] <spudse_installUb> How can i install packages without internet ? (I want abiword for instance)
[11:50] <pippin> FAST: the more evil approach would probably be handcoding a set of timings in a modeline and tell the X server to use it,.. as well as handtuning with xvidtune ,.
[11:50] <shock> i got fed up looking for proper apps for macosx *g*
[11:50] <Espectro> spudse_installUb, man dpkg
[11:50] <LarstiQ> Espectro: if your powerbook is anything like mine,  echo -e 'dev.mac_hid.mouse_button_emulation=1\ndev.mac_hid.mouse_button2_keycode=96\ndev.mac_hid.mouse_button3_keycode=127'
[11:50] <LarstiQ> Espectro: to file
[11:51] <spudse> espectro: dpkg ?
[11:51] <Espectro> LarstiQ, save that to a file and sh it?
[11:51] <LarstiQ> Espectro: then as root, sysctl -p file
[11:51] <AndyRR> am i right in thinking that if i download a hoary snapshot iso and burn it i could add it as a repository to update a number of hoary installs?
[11:51] <shock> brb... gonna try something :)
[11:51] <LarstiQ> Espectro: save to file and feed to sysctl, that should give you middle mouse button for the KP_enter key, next to your right command key
[11:52] <LarstiQ> Espectro: and right button is +Fn
[11:52] <Espectro> i dont even know how to copy and paste here
[11:52] <spudse> sry thought dpkg, was something like rtfm :) doing a search on the forum now
[11:52] <hitu> Xorg on ubuntu ? is that possible ?
[11:53] <LarstiQ> hitu: yes, it's in hoary
[11:53] <hitu> what is hoary ?
[11:53] <LarstiQ> wb shock
[11:53] <shock> :)
[11:54] <shock> well this seriously sucks
[11:54] <LarstiQ> hitu: see ubuntuguide.org
[11:54] <LarstiQ> shock: this being? :)
[11:54] <[amasimak] > hitu ext version (cyrrently in development
[11:54] <shock> just "apt-get installed blackbox" and it would crash to console
[11:54] <shock> *sigh*
[11:54] <AndyRR> shock, what sucks?
[11:54] <shock> THAT sucks
[11:54] <LarstiQ> shock: nothing to do with blue fungus? ;)
[11:56] <bitfoo> argggggghhhhhhhhhh
[11:57] <Sav> i have warty working perfect now, should i switch to horay? is it hard? whats better?
[11:58] <Espectro> LarstiQ, i guess i will try again with a final build of hoary
[11:58] <LarstiQ> Sav: if you're satisfied with warty, I wouldn't switch
[11:58] <LarstiQ> Espectro: hmkay
[11:58] <Espectro> third time x crashed, only 640x480, no sound, no right button
[11:59] <LarstiQ> Espectro: what generation powerbook?
[11:59] <Espectro> september 2003
[11:59] <Espectro> once i had terminal running and tried to load mozilla
[11:59] <Espectro> then it made terminal crash and no apps could be opened
[11:59] <Espectro> had to ctrl alt delete
[12:00] <spudse> where can i download ubuntu packages ? im searching for abiword package