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HrdwrBoBspudse: abiword is in main, that should already be in synaptiv12:00
HrdwrBoBsynaptic12:00
LarstiQEspectro: hmm12:00
spudsei couldnt find it12:00
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Espectroi downloaded this thing because it said that it was the proper live cd build for mac, but it was built against hoary which was a bad idea12:01
spudsebut those packages from sybaptiv get downloaded from the internet right ?12:01
Espectroi would have liked a stable warty for mac12:01
bitfoodoes anyone here use mplayer :|12:01
HrdwrBoBspudse: yes12:01
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spudseI dont have a internet connection12:02
spudseon my laptop12:02
spudseso i thought to download it to my usbstick12:02
spudseand install in manually12:02
Espectrospudse, like i said, man dpkg12:02
LarstiQEspectro: me too, but at the warty release there was no ppc livecd yet. Perhaps we can still get one if we ask nicely12:02
spudseyes i understand, but i need to have the files first12:02
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spudseI need something like abiword.deb i suppose ?12:03
Espectroyeah, see if they have the debs at the abiword page12:03
avsnneed help here -- is there a default password to su root on the live cd?12:03
LarstiQavsn: doesn't sudo just work?12:04
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avsni went to terminal to do su root12:04
zazeemhi, i am using totem movie player to watch an avi file but it freezes everytime..:(12:04
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zazeemany sugs12:04
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Espectrotry compiling totem yourself12:05
zazeem?12:05
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avsncuriosity here who is where12:08
avsnavsn:seattle usa12:08
Savanyone got .wmv files to work? i only get sound, no video12:08
hituSav get the essential codecs from mplayer.hu12:09
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Espectrowhee12:10
Savhitu, works with vlc?12:10
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hitudunno12:10
Espectroi hate your charles de gaulle airport12:10
[amasimak] :)12:11
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Espectroyou need to get on buses to reach the planes, and the drivers went on strike the day i was there12:11
r3v3rbany bluetooth guru's here tonight ?12:11
hituokay12:11
hitubooting into new kernel12:12
hitubrb12:12
r3v3rbi have hoary installed and working, i can transfer files from phone to ubuntu but not the other way. gnome-bluetooth shows the phone but what do i do now ?12:12
r3v3rbi have also installed obexserver just in case12:12
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r3v3rbnoone in 2nite that talks bluetooth ?12:15
gobeavswhen I try to start synaptic, I get: "Error: Failed to run /usr/sbin/synaptic as user root: Child terminated with 1 status"....any ideas?12:15
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gobeavsI reinstalled it via apt, but it still has problems12:15
mebaran151you sure you running it as root?12:16
mebaran151maybe you are giving it the wrong password or something12:16
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gobeavsnevermind, ya12:17
AndyRRgobeavs, are you using the user you setup when you installed?12:17
zazeemanyone know how to install divx for linux12:17
r3v3rbzazeem just install xine-ui and its dependancies12:17
zazeem?12:17
zazeemis that divx?12:17
r3v3rbto watch or encode ?12:17
zazeemwatch12:18
gobeavsI get confused which ps is root12:18
gobeavsit wants my regular password12:18
gobeavsnot my "root" password12:18
r3v3rbuse xine its a very good divx/xvid/etc etc player12:18
zazeemwooot thnx12:18
r3v3rbor try intalling totem-xine and its dependancies12:18
r3v3rbas long as xine-lib gets installed you should be okay12:19
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AndyRRgobeavs, i pretty sure you need to be logged in as the first user you setup when you installed12:19
spudsewhat is the standard sudo password ?12:19
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randabisspudse, your user password12:19
HrdwrBoBspudse: your password12:19
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r3v3rbspudse whatever you gave it at install12:19
no0tichi12:19
dudyour sudo password is the password for the sudoer12:19
no0ticI don't want apache to log in access_log SEARCH commands, ho can I do?12:19
r3v3rbanyone got any idea about the bluetooth ?12:19
spudsethanks12:20
AndyRRor logged in as anyone in sudo group?12:20
dudoh, btw... http://www.dudcore.net/reprofile/ <-- honest opinion on design folks...?12:20
spudsebut the status database area is locked by another proces ?12:20
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r3v3rbdud, the tables arent centred properly...12:20
randabisyou probably have synaptic open spudse12:20
r3v3rbabove each other that is12:21
spudseyes :)12:21
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randabisspudse, you'll have to close it before you can issue apt-gets12:21
randabisor dpkg12:21
spudseokido12:21
r3v3rbbluetooth bluetooth ra ra raaaa raa12:21
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spudseim getting to learn this linux stuff :)12:21
r3v3rbhelp me help me help help me12:21
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zazeemk im playing a divx movie and have sound but no video :'(12:22
dudr3v3rb, supposed to be centered like that... a bit asymmetrical order makes it more exciting ;)12:22
zazeem?12:22
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r3v3rbzazeem, check you have the correct video output in options12:22
zazeemmeaning?12:23
zazeemwf it works now12:23
r3v3rbxv is usually good12:23
zazeemi restarted lol12:23
zazeem:D12:23
zazeemtthnx12:23
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r3v3rbthat might help12:23
r3v3rbdo i need to mount a bluetooth device ?12:23
gobeavsAndyRR, thanks for the help but I got it figured out, I had the wrong password12:24
zOaphile, does ubuntu support gdesklets 0.32*?12:24
zOapsorry, hi...12:24
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AndyRRgobeavs, ah good12:24
zOapanybody knows?12:25
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kbrookszOap, maybe universe12:25
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zOapkkb: universe?12:26
zOapkkb,12:26
zOapkb,12:26
r3v3rbrepository ?12:26
kbrooksyup12:26
zOapkbrooks, what is that?12:26
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kbrookssee http://www.ubuntuguide.org12:27
zOapkbrooks, thnx12:27
r3v3rbbugger, time to go and no bluetooth working,.. :(12:27
kbrookszOap, basically its a repoistory of unsupported packages that may or may not be open source12:27
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zOapkbrooks, ok, so ubuntu doesnt oficially support gdesklets?12:28
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kbrookszOap, maybe. enable it and search synaptic12:29
zOapkbrooks, havent installed it yet. Just trying to do some research...12:29
K-Richi use gdesklets in warty12:29
zOapok, then i'll try too.12:29
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spudsei just installed abiword with dpkg, where can i start it now ?12:30
K-Richthough you need to tell nautilus to open the .displays with gdesklets or you get errors (right click open with)12:30
zOapwhat about managing devices and stuff, like libranet's adminmenu? is there anything like that in ubuntu?12:30
zOapK-r, ok, thanx12:30
FASTwhere is a place to get more background images?12:30
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zazeemhow do i shutoff the x server?12:31
zazeemit keeps restarting when i start wolfenstein12:31
r3v3rbwhere do i find gdesklets after installing ?12:31
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zazeem??????????12:32
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zazeemow do i kill the x server12:32
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zazeemsomething stop12:32
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timellohi there, where can I put a script to execute evertime that I login between the gdm?12:34
balcCould someone tell me the linux equivalent to winamp's radio/tv component?  I'd like to have an integrated way to access shoutcast stations without searching through it with a web browser.12:34
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timellos/between/through12:35
spudseIs a launcher, a shortcut like in windows ?12:36
AndyRRmusic player?12:36
shock?12:36
FASTspudse, yes12:36
timellospudse, is it for me? no a shell script12:36
shocka launcher is essentially just something you can click on12:36
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arturohello12:36
zazeemhi how do i turn x server off in gnome?12:36
shockhoi12:36
zazeemit keeps crashing wolfenstein12:37
zazeemx server off in ubuntu12:37
arturoi need to install php on my ubuntu system12:37
shockermmm the xserver you will need ;)12:37
zazeemsomething12:37
shockapt-cache search php :)12:37
zazeemit keeps restarting12:37
shockhm12:37
arturobut when i use apt-get it doesnt work!12:37
zazeemit restarts to nvidia logo then login :(12:37
zazeemi forgot the cmd12:38
timellospudse, I created a xinitrc, but gdm doesn't read it12:38
zazeemits lms.... i think something stop12:38
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shockbrb12:38
zazeemk12:38
balcmusic player doesnt automatically search shoutcast12:38
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spudsetimello, that was a question for myself :) im totally new12:38
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dudzazeem, if you have any experience with inittab and rc you can make it so that init 2 doesnt start gdm, but init 3 does12:39
zazeem?12:39
timellospudse, np :)12:39
zazeemhow do i make it not12:39
zazeemwhats cmd12:40
zazeema guy gave me it yesterday12:40
zazeembut i forgot and reinstalled ubuntu12:40
zazeemlol12:40
zazeemit ran et12:40
zazeemit was something then stop at end12:40
no0tichow do I eliminate from a file all the lines containing a pattern?12:40
sirukinubuntu hates me.12:40
zazeem .../.../../ stop12:40
dud/etc/init.d/gdm stop12:40
dudi suppose12:40
zazeemyessssssssss!12:40
zazeemthnx12:40
sirukintried compiling xchat, and I have no perl or python modules12:41
zazeemill try it12:41
zazeemif i hget kicked u know why12:41
LinuxJonessirukin, why are yo compiling xchat ?12:41
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arturocan somebody help me with my php installantion?12:41
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no0ticroot_: you are using xchat & root account?12:42
arturoanybody?12:42
sirukinlinuxboy, I don't believe in running old ass peice of trash packages.12:42
sirukinerr12:42
sirukinlinuxjones12:42
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arturonobody :(12:42
zazeemdidnt work :'(12:42
LinuxJonessirukin, lol12:42
arturono12:42
melazyboy2sirukin: Are you using hoary or warty/12:42
dudif you think ubuntu warty has old packages, try running debian woody hehe12:43
root_yeah, very perceptive there no0tic12:43
zazeemanyone know how to set resolution in login12:43
zazeem?12:43
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zazeemits too high i cant see shit12:43
no0ticroot_: it's not a good idea, you know?12:43
ArCHoNKoGwhen will hoary be out ?12:43
melazyboy2take out resolutions you dont want in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf12:43
Guardiannaoril12:43
no0ticArCHoNKoG: april?12:43
Guardiannapril12:43
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root_no0tic: why12:43
ArCHoNKoGis it still buggy ?12:44
zazeemzazeem@workgroup:~ $ /etc/X11/xorg.conf12:44
zazeembash: /etc/X11/xorg.conf: No such file or directory?12:44
Guardiannits running well for me12:44
melazyboy2zazeem: or you can CTRL ALT +/- to change resolutions in either gdm or X12:44
dudapplications with has a non-encrypted interface to external networks shouldnt run as root unless they need12:44
no0ticroot_: root account is for administration tasks, never go out on the internet with it, without protection12:44
AndyRRhoary seems fine here12:44
sirukinhmm12:44
sirukinanyway12:44
duds/with/which12:44
melazyboy2zazeem: Try /etc/X11/XFree86-412:44
sirukinI'm done with Ubuntu resolving dependancies all day isn't fun12:44
kbrookssirukin, :(12:45
zazeembash: /etc/X11/XFree86-4: No such file or directory12:45
zazeemzazeem@workgroup:~ $ /etc/X11/XFree86-412:45
trakalIs there anyway of changing the keyboard layout to dvorak(us/en/ca) in GNOME?12:45
melazyboy2trakal: Yes type loadkeys dvorak12:45
LinuxJonessirukin, that's what happens when you compile from source :D12:45
trakalthanks12:45
no0ticroot_: if you run xchat with root privileges, for example, one can use an xchat bug to gain admin privileges on your machine and mess it up12:45
sirukinat the end of the day, I'd just like to download the latest distro and compile my packages from source12:45
zazeembash: /etc/X11/XFree86-4: No such file or directory12:45
zazeemzazeem@workgroup:~ $ /etc/X11/XFree86-412:45
r3v3rbnite all12:45
zazeem:|12:45
melazyboy2trakal: be prepaired to type loadkeys qwerty or loadkeys us, using that typeclass12:45
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sirukinthat or a repository that has bleeding edge packages12:45
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sirukins/distro/app/g12:46
no0ticroot_: is very very safer using another user12:46
timellozazeem, do you know which file can I put a script to run in the login and logout?12:46
DaviXgreeting people12:46
trakalmelazyboy2: Thanks12:46
zazeemno12:46
root_Then I can't mod my system.12:46
Guardiannhello DaviX12:46
melazyboy2zazeem: browse there, and look for it, its in /etc/X11/ either xorg.conf or XFree86-412:46
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root_Permissions suck12:46
zazeemhow do i edit my resolution cfg12:46
DaviXhow are you Guardiann?12:46
melazyboy2zazeem: 'ls /etc/X11'12:46
no0ticroot_: permissions don't suck, you don't use ubuntu though12:46
GuardiannI am amazing  but I will get better  thanks for asking12:46
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XhyldazhKHi all12:47
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zazeemzazeem@workgroup:~ $ ls /etc/X1112:47
zazeemapp-defaults             rstart               xinit       Xsession.options12:47
zazeemcursors                  sysconfig            xkb         xsm12:47
zazeemdefault-display-manager  X                    Xresources  Xwrapper.config12:47
zazeemfonts                    XF86Config-4         xserver12:47
zazeemgdm                      XF86Config-4~        Xsession12:47
no0ticroot_: you can gain root previleges to do admin in a shell or via sudo12:47
zazeemrgb.txt                  XF86Config-4_backup  Xsession.d12:47
XhyldazhKHow do I build a kernel image/headers package?12:47
zazeemzazeem@workgroup:~ $12:47
zazeemwoops flood12:47
DaviXhow can i make my ubuntu support hebrew?12:47
Guardiannzazeem why do you keep doing that12:47
root_wow thanks for that no0tic12:47
melazyboy2zazeem: XF86Config-412:47
no0ticroot_: simply sudo <command> will do it with root privileges if you are in /etc/sudoers12:47
trakalmelazyboy2: Hmm... That didn't seem to work. Type that into a shell right?12:47
zazeemmelazyboy hoe do i select it12:48
root_I know that12:48
no0ticroot_: either you can temporarily login as root via: $su -l root12:48
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encryptioif you set a root password12:48
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zazeemguardiann12:48
no0ticroot_: it's not a good idea, I told you.12:49
zazeemhow do i select12:49
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root_Nautilus and Text Editor should let ou authenticate live OSX and BBedit12:49
zazeemls /etc/X11/XF86Config-412:49
zazeem?12:49
faxonsI'm trying to upgrade to hoary from warty and having some X problems12:49
melazyboy2XhyldazhK: you can either use the debian package: kernel-package, or get the sources12:49
encryptiofaxons: you're not the only one12:49
no0ticroot_: you are right12:50
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LinuxJonesfaxons, lots of fun with Hoary + Xorg12:50
jdubXhyldazhK: search for linux-headers and linux-source12:50
melazyboy2trakal: yes 'loadkeys dvorak', im not sure it will work for all shells, but it should work for what ever shell you do it in12:50
zazeemlinuxjones, ls /etc/X11/XF86Config-4? how do i edit12:50
no0ticroot_: mac rulez...12:50
faxons:) what XF86 packages do I need to remove?12:50
root_I'm bored with mac though12:50
no0ticroot_: but in OSX you don't use admin, I suppose12:50
LinuxJoneszazeem, nano /etc/X11/XF86Config-412:50
XhyldazhKjdub, I need to patch my kernel with kdb12:51
melazyboy2zazeem: try, 'sudo gedit /etc/X11/XF86Config-412:51
faxonsLinuxJones: is there some docs on this that I missed?12:51
trakalmelazyboy2: All I'm getting is "couldn't get a file descriptor referring to console".12:51
XhyldazhKI compiled my kernel, but it doesn't locate its modules and fails12:51
root_Yes I am an admin on my OSX system. Of course.12:51
XhyldazhKso I think if I compile and istall it the official way it will work12:51
no0ticroot_: you can run gedit with root privileges, if u need to edit a system file12:51
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaasend me if u can help me pls?12:51
LinuxJonesfaxons, what problem are you having ?12:51
no0ticroot_: but you use admin for daily tasks?12:51
zazeemdidnt work :'(12:52
faxonsLinuxJones: X just doesn't start12:52
melazyboy2trakal: Do it through X =/ loadkeys aparently doesn't work in terminals12:52
root_You don't know what your on about no0tic, no offense12:52
faxonsLinuxJones: startx brings up a session12:52
no0ticroot_: yes, root_, yes12:52
LinuxJonesfaxons, you can try xorgconfig12:52
melazyboy2trakal: desktop -> prefrences -> keyboard12:52
no0ticroot_: tell me something you know, so I can change my ideas12:53
faxonsLinuxJones: I think it's a package problem12:53
root_I have an account in 10.3 with admin priviledges. To use them I type a code12:53
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LinuxJonesfaxons, it will walk you through setting up xorg. If there is an XF86Config-4 file in the X11 directory it seems to want to use that file for some reason.12:53
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaai need help?12:53
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaai need help pls?12:54
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa??12:54
faxonsLinuxJones: the live CD comes up fine and I "borrowed" the xorg.conf file12:54
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dudtry asking a question then aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa12:54
HrdwrBoBaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa: please change your nick to something readable12:54
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahttp://www.cheatplanet.com/ps2cheats/onimusha_3_demon_siege.htm12:54
kbrooksshoot12:54
randabiswtf12:54
LinuxJonesfaxons, did you dis-upgrade ?12:54
melazyboy2trakal: or you can edit xorg.conf/XF86Config-4 and change XkbLayout to "dvorak"12:54
kbrooksaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, offtopic12:54
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa??12:54
LinuxJonesfaxons, err dist-upgrade12:54
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa??12:54
kbrooksi demand you get out of the room, aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa12:54
dudber off-topic hehe12:54
zazeemmelazy, none of those cfg lines worked :'(12:55
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa??12:55
LinuxJonesaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, please change your name it's driving me crazy :(12:55
root_Try Computer>Desktop>Keyboard12:55
randabisthis is a ubuntu support channel, not a game support channel12:55
no0ticroot_: thank you for the precius words12:55
faxonsyea, I had a dependency fail but running apt-get upgrade seemed to finish ok12:55
randabisAlso, stop spamming12:55
root_Put on Dvorak and cut USQWE12:55
trakalmelazyboy2: OK I got it. I just accidently hit the expand on dvorak, which just gave me the option of specific dvorak layouts.12:55
no0ticroot_: I didn't know that you set up a password for admin...12:55
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahttp://db.gamefaqs.com/console/ps2/file/onimusha_3_a.txt12:55
root_It works fine except for login12:55
kbrooksaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, OFFTOPIC12:55
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa??12:56
kbrooksaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, and i mean offtopic12:56
kbrooksand i mean it.12:56
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaano12:56
kbrooksyes12:56
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaano12:56
trakalmelazboy2: Works now, thanks a lot.12:56
kbrooksyes12:56
root_The loginscreen stays qwelty which is annoying12:56
LinuxJonesjdub please kick this guy ?12:56
dudthis channel has nothing to do about either onimusha or cheats OR games12:56
faxonsLinuxJones: by running apt-get update with a faild dist-upgrade did I screw the install?12:56
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaai need help?12:57
melazyboy2what this isn't a gaming channel?12:57
dudtry apt-get -f install faxons12:57
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jnkjnbjk??12:57
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randabisstop spamming/flooding our channel please12:57
randabisyou need to find somewhere else to ask for the help you requrie12:57
randabisrequire even12:57
melazyboy2jnkjnbjk: your going to want to up-down-left-right-jump-jump-run12:57
LinuxJonesfaxons, that's probably what happened. Sometimes if it bombs out you just try again. try apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade12:57
root_Does anyone know why volume is so low in my ibook under ubuntu12:57
jnkjnbjkif u can help pls?12:58
kbrooksmelazyboy2, dont feed a troll12:58
randabiswe CAN'T help you, find somewhere else for help.12:58
zazeemanyone know why when i start up a game my ubuntu restarts to thee nvidia logo then to login screen???12:58
faxonsLinuxJones: apt-get update shows no packages to be updated12:58
kbrookszazeem, depends.12:58
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faxonsLinuxJones: same with dist-upgrade12:59
zazeemon what12:59
LinuxJonesfaxons, you did apt-get dist-upgrade ?12:59
kbrooksit might be your hardware.....12:59
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zazeemkbrooks, how do i fix?12:59
kbrooksetc etc12:59
faxonsLinuxJones: yea12:59
kbrookszazeem, hello?12:59
zazeemno i had it working yesterday12:59
LinuxJonesfaxons, well you can try xorgconfig12:59
zazeembut reinstalled ubuntu12:59
kbrooksthat may be why.12:59
zazeemand forgot to write down12:59
zazeemthere was a faq thing on a yellow webpage that had video setup it worked perfectly but now i cant find tyhat page01:00
randabisdocumentation is very important, you've learned a valuable lesson01:00
dudzazeem, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDrivers01:00
randabisyour answer is probably in the ubuntu wiki01:00
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faxonsLinuxJones: k, I'll give it a shot01:00
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zazeemkbrooks, how do i change my resolution in login?01:03
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faxonsLinuxJones: is there a way to re-run the base install01:04
zazeemhow do i change my resolution in login?01:04
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faxonsLinuxJones: something like dpkg-reconfigrue base-config01:04
LinuxJonesfaxons, I dunno if that will work, one way to find out :D01:05
faxonsLinuxJones: is base-config the right option?01:05
zazeemlinuxjones,how do i change my resolution in login?01:05
LinuxJoneszazeem, did you edit your xf86config file by hand ?01:05
troll_godfaxons dpkg -l | grep base-config01:05
zazeemhow01:05
zazeemjones*01:05
randabisdpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 or xserver-xorg depending on version of X01:06
troll_godfaxons: so yes.01:06
LinuxJoneszazeem, dpkg-reconefiure xserver-xfree8601:06
zazeemzazeem@workgroup:~ $ dpkg-reconefiure xserver-xfree8601:06
zazeembash: dpkg-reconefiure: command not found01:06
brc_woohoo! new powerbooks =) http://www.apple.com/powerbook/01:06
root_G5 is just round the corner01:07
FASTsudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree8601:07
LinuxJoneszazeem, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree8601:07
randabiszazeem you need to type it correctly...01:07
LinuxJoneszazeem, sorry my typing skills are weak01:07
zazeemlol01:08
LinuxJones:)01:08
FASTdoes X support 1152x864 resolutions?  i tried putting it in the XF86Config-4 file, but nothin showed up in Computer->System Configuration->Screen Resolution;  is that the wrong way to do it?01:09
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smoFAST: That's the res I'm using.  Have you restarted X since the change?01:10
FASTsmo: yep, restarted the computer; no luck :\01:11
troll_godFAST: you put it under modeline or under your device driver?01:12
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FASTtroll_god: what's modeline?01:12
troll_godthe other place where you might see resolutions in your config01:13
troll_godFAST: you can always reconfigure xserver as they suggested to zazeem01:13
FASTunder the screen section, i inserted "1152x864" in the 24 bit depth mode section01:13
rempresenti am thinking about changing my kernel to better suit my hardware, can anyone help me with this?01:13
FASTtroll_god: i tried that too, but it wasn't listed ever01:13
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rempresenti have a AMD XP 3000+01:13
zazeemhmm01:14
troll_godrempresent: you just apt get the AMD kernel01:14
AndyRRuse synaptic if you are unsure01:14
troll_godrempresent: if you want to build your own apt-get kernel-package, or the sources01:14
rempresentwhere can i find a listing that suits me01:14
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rempresentlike of different packages..01:14
rempresenti want to remedy the memory issue01:14
zazeemlinuxjones, that still didnt let me edit the cfg for resolutions in login and nvidia logo, yesterday the cmd i used i deleted the high ones and it worked01:14
rempresentwhere it thinks i only have so much ram...01:15
AndyRRrempresent, use synaptic as it also sorts grub out for you01:15
rempresentgrub?01:15
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AndyRRmay also need to append grub.lst01:15
troll_godrempresent: You can find a list of the different packages by going 'apt-get update && apt-cache search . | less'01:16
AndyRRreformed, grub is bootloader01:16
troll_godtroll_god: by opening synaptic01:16
troll_godtrakal: or by using aptitude01:16
zazeemthat still didnt let me edit the cfg for resolutions in login and nvidia logo, yesterday the cmd i used i deleted the high ones and it worked anyone know how to edit this???????01:16
rempresentok, great.... how can i check to see how much ram i am utilizing01:16
shocker01:17
shocktop01:17
shockin console01:17
shockor run the gnome-system-monitor01:17
troll_godrempresent: cat /proc/meminfo01:17
jdubrempresent: type 'free'01:17
rempresentMem:        516608     509336       7272          0      15108     24383601:17
rempresentis that ok01:17
jdubrempresent: but keep in mind that it's the second number under 'free' that matters01:18
jdubno01:18
rempresentno what01:18
jdubthe line that has -/+ buffers/cache is important01:18
rempresentsecond number01:18
rempresent-/+ buffers/cache:     250392     26621601:18
rempresentthere... what do you think01:18
jdubso the first line says you have 7MB memory free, which is not the entire truth01:18
troll_godrempresent: If you really want to build a safe, and secure system with all of the advantages linux has to offer do, 'apt-get --force-yes install *'01:18
jdubthe second line indicates that a good 250MB or so is being used for in-memory file caching01:19
rempresenttroll:  i know all that, but i am considering changing the kernel01:19
rempresenthat decent...01:19
jdublinux efficiently uses your RAM to speed up disk access01:19
rempresentthat decent01:19
jdubbut gives it back if programs want it01:19
rempresentso, i am fine, no need to update the kernel01:19
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jdubthe kernel wouldn't help01:20
rempresentok, that is what i wanted to check01:20
jdubeven if you were using a lot of real memory01:20
zazeemhow do i save logs from console after it crashes and relogs in???01:20
rempresentis this decent news, or should i think about changing the kernel...01:21
jdubrempresent: changing the kernel would not help whether it was good or bad news01:21
rempresentok01:22
rempresentthat is pretty much all i wanted to check01:22
troll_godrempresent: but changing the kernel can yeild hours of fun01:22
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FASTwe're from the moon01:23
spudseim searching for a light program to view powerpoint files (ppt)01:23
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troll_godrempresent: try it, you will throughly enjoy your linux experience, use the image on kernel.org for added pleasure01:23
balcim having problems getting safepeer to run without error in azureus01:23
balcubuntu seems to give it trouble01:23
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StuttergartAnyone know what group a user needs to be in to access a scanner with xsane in Hoary?01:25
zazeemany one alive?01:25
zazeem:(01:25
troll_godStuttergart: im guessing the group root will suffice01:26
Stuttergartheh01:26
troll_godStuttergart: =D01:26
Stuttergarthow about Administrator?01:26
rempresenti like the dashboard featured in the new OSX tiger, is there a chance of seeing one of these for linux01:26
StuttergartI don't have a 'root' group. Just 'SYSTEM' and 'Domain Administrators'01:26
rempresentor is there something out there for it already01:27
troll_godStuttergart: your on windosws?01:27
StuttergartI think so.01:27
zazeemanyone here01:27
zazeemthat can help01:27
troll_godzazeem: god wtf is the problem01:27
troll_godzazeem: you have gone and spammed your own question out of view, v. nicley done mate!01:28
zazeemhow do i get ubuntu to save an error log .a into home directory so i can see why enemy territory is crashing my system and rebooting to login01:28
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zazeemspammed?01:28
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troll_godzazeem: You can't01:28
Agrajagtroll_god: you can't?01:28
zazeemi did yesterday a guy showed me how01:28
Agrajagdoesn't ET output to the console?01:29
zazeembut i reinstalled01:29
zazeem?01:29
Agrajagjust redirect stdout/stderr to a file01:29
Br34chat start-up, it does say "no soundcard found," . . . I'm on a laptop, where can I at least begin to attempt resolving this problem?01:29
shockzazeem - i guess its just crashing X ?01:29
shocknot the system01:29
Agrajagwolfet > stdout 2> stderr01:29
troll_godzazeem: computers can't prodict the future, if your whole computer is 'crashing' its a kernel level crash, it could be a bad func call, point being if there isn't a warning you won't know what happened until it has already happened01:29
zazeemi guess but yesterday we got it working01:29
zazeemnot whole comp01:29
Agrajagthen read the stdout and stderr files01:29
zazeemonly when i start et it resets resolutuion then switches to login again01:30
Agrajagif that gives you anything useful, check that. Otherwise read your X logs01:30
troll_godzazeem: You can redirect error output to a file 'file_to_be_run 2> errorlog'01:30
zazeemhow01:30
zazeem?01:30
Agrajaguh, he just told you how01:31
zazeemput that in csole?01:31
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bisclaveretheh. me again :p01:31
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Agrajagzazeem: the > operator redirects the output of a program to a file01:31
Br34chat start-up, it does say "no soundcard found," . . . I'm on a laptop, where can I at least begin to attempt resolving this problem? <01:31
troll_godi just told you, open up a console, find the file you need to run, type the name ./file_to_be_run, and append '2> error.log' to it, then when it  crashes open up error.log and it will send out what is has captured01:31
Agrajag2> reidrects stderr to a file01:31
zazeemwhat the hell lol01:31
Agrajagwolfet > stdout 2> stderr01:32
Agrajagwolfet > stdout 2> stderr01:32
zazeemfile_to_be_run 2> errorlog in csole?01:32
zazeemk01:32
pvhHi -- I've had a few hard-lock crashes lately, and right now Nautilus is uninterruptably hung.01:32
bisclavereti'm trying to install the nvidia drivers for linux but A. it can't find any precompiled kernel interface, it says. and B. it can't find my kernel source files..01:32
pvhWhat the heck is happening to me?01:32
AgrajagI told you that like 3 minutes ago01:32
zazeemo01:32
zazeemwhere does it save to?01:32
AgrajagWVefvclmn01:32
bisclaveretERROR: Unable to find the kernel source tree for the currently running kernel.01:32
bisclaveret       Please make sure you have installed the kernel source files for your01:32
bisclaveret       kernel01:32
AgrajagI'm about to give up here guys01:32
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GunlanceHello All (it's Gunblade from yesterday)01:32
Agrajagzazeem: that will save to two files01:32
troll_godlol01:32
Agrajagstdout, and stderr01:32
zazeemya but where at01:33
zazeemo i c01:33
zazeembrb01:33
pvhHey! I can crash my process by trying to get a directory listing... What the heck?01:33
Agrajagin the current working directory.01:33
bisclaveretdoes anyone know where these are?01:33
troll_godzazeem: or you could redirect both to the same file for added complexity!!!! 'file > output.log 2>&1'01:33
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Xenguypvh: are you running hoary?  else, what changes have you made most recently? ;-)01:34
GunlanceI just have a quick question, how do I install Ubuntu off of the cd..cause it is running off of the CD01:34
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pvhXenguy: Yes, I'm running Hoary.01:34
AgrajagGunlance: you need the installer disc01:34
Agrajagnot the livecd01:34
GunlanceDamn <_<01:34
Br34chat start-up, it does say "no soundcard found," . . . I'm on a laptop, where can I at least begin to attempt resolving this problem? <<01:34
GunlanceThats the 4.10 one off the website right?01:34
Br34ch:'x01:35
pvhXenguy: I can't kill the nautilus process that's trying to read the directory.01:35
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pvhXenguy: It won't respond to kill -9 on its PID.01:35
zazeemthat didnt save a log anywhere01:35
no0ticIgnigot was flooding me with pings...01:35
Xenguypvh: I hate to ask this question, but, have you tried rebooting your box to regain some sanity?01:35
Agrajagzazeem: do you have files named stdout and stderr?01:35
pvhXenguy: What is this, Windows?01:36
Xenguypvh: (this is of course something that should *not* be necessary for a linux box, but ...)01:36
zazeemstder yea dont see the other01:36
GunlanceThats the 4.10 one off the website right?01:36
zazeemzazeem/.etwolf/etmain/servercache.dat'01:36
zazeemReason: There is no plugin to handle this movie..01:36
zazeemtotem-video-thumbnailer couln't open file 'file:///usr/local/games/enemy-territory/etmain/hunkusage.dat'01:36
zazeemReason: There is no plugin to handle this movie..01:36
Agrajagthen read stderr01:36
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ti need help?01:36
pvhXenguy: It shouldn't even be possible to create unkillable jobs.01:36
Xenguypvh: yes :p01:37
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troll_godyou probably typed the wrong pid01:37
ti need help pls?01:37
troll_godtry 'killall -s 9 nautilus'01:37
Agrajagpvh: can't kill a zombie01:37
Xenguyt: just ask01:37
pvhAgrajag: braaaaaains01:37
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troll_godAgrajag: if nautilus was a zombie it would be a flaw in X -- there aren't any of those =/01:37
snoopdogghttp://db.gamefaqs.com/console/ps2/file/onimusha_3_a.txt01:37
pvhAgrajag: It shows as uninterruptable in the sysmon. It still has a parent.01:37
zazeemagrajag, this is the stder bash: wolfet: command not found01:37
Agrajagoh01:37
zazeemthere isnt another01:37
Agrajagok01:38
AgamottoDamn.... Local guy serving in Iraq has been killed.  He was due to come home in three days01:38
pvhtroll_god: That was the first thing I tried.01:38
Agrajagzazeem: I probably just forgot the name of the et executable01:38
bisclaverethas anyone installed the nvidia drivers succesfully on thier computer?01:38
Agrajagzazeem: what do you run to play et?01:38
zazeemits et01:38
pvhAgamotto: I'm sorry to hear that.01:38
Agrajagjust et?01:38
zazeemya01:38
Agrajagthen use that01:38
snoopdoggpls senud it 2 me if u can hepl me pls?01:38
XenguyAgamotto: blame Bush01:38
AgamottoI got the nvidia drivers running under Ubuntu01:38
zazeem?01:38
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zazeemwhat do i type01:38
Agrajagdo I have to hold your fscking hand?01:38
zazeem?01:38
pvhXenguy: Dude...01:38
GunlanceThe 4.10 off teh ubuntu website is the install version right not live?01:38
AgamottoNah, I prefer to blame the person that pulled the trigger on him01:38
Agrajaget > stdout 2> stderr01:38
Agrajagthe same goddamn thing01:39
Agrajagjust replace wolfet, with et01:39
zazeemo01:39
snoopdoggsend01:39
AgamottoYes, must be the install disc to go on a hd, live won't install01:39
snoopdogghelp01:39
bisclaveretAgamotto, care to tell me how?01:39
Br34ch!ping01:39
troll_godAgrajag: hahahahaha i like your style! so gracefull01:40
GunlanceK thx01:40
pvhtroll_god: So I have a process that won't accept a KILL signal. Now what do I do?01:40
Agrajagtroll_god: I'm sorry, I just can't deal with people that are that dense01:40
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zazeemk got error01:40
Agrajagzazeem: how did it go?01:40
zazeemgood01:40
zazeemcan i pm u error?01:41
Agrajagyes01:41
kbrookshow the hell do i get opengl01:41
bisclaveretAgamotto, it tells me first there's no precompiled kernel interfaces when it searches the nvidia ftp site, then it tells me01:41
troll_godpvh: reinstall a new kernel? i honestly don't know and find it hard to swallow, i haven't seen that in a v. long time01:41
bisclaveretERROR: Unable to find the kernel source tree for the currently running kernel.01:41
bisclaveret       Please make sure you have installed the kernel source files for your01:41
bisclaveret       kernel; on Red Hat Linux systems, for example, be sure you have the01:41
bisclaveret       'kernel-source' rpm installed.  If you know the correct kernel source01:41
bisclaveret       files are installed, you may specify the kernel source path with the01:41
bisclaveret       '--kernel-source-path' commandline option.01:41
kbrookspvh, send it TERM and then KILL01:41
bisclaveretwhere are these?01:41
pvhkbrooks: Ah, I haven't heard of that before. I'll try.01:42
troll_godpvh: You might just simply have a corrupt PID table however i know nothing about that except what can bork it, forkbombs of sort and zombie bombs etc01:42
kbrookspvh: kill pid, then kill -9 pid, then kill -15 pid01:42
AgamottoGo to the following: http://www.ubuntuguide.org01:42
troll_godpvh: make sure your running as root too when you issue killall -s 901:42
pvhkbrooks: No dice.01:42
pvhtroll_god: Good thinking.01:42
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pvhtroll_god: Ah, that did it.01:43
pvhkbrooks: Signal 15 coming from root.01:43
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bisclaverethrm. do i then have to do a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86?01:44
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aToasterI'm thinking about upgrading to Hoary to use the new ATI drivers, is there anything I should know about Hoary?01:45
pvhWell, now I just have a totally borked home directory.01:45
pvhBetter go find out why. Thanks for your help with my undead process.01:45
snoopdoggpls send 2 help me pls?01:46
troll_godaToaster: the new ATI are for XFree86 too01:46
tuxaToaster, no probs for me01:46
tuxxorg going as well01:46
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troll_godaToaster: And i upgraded to hoary, and recompiled my own kernel, and i haven't had ATI drivers for 2weeks because of it.01:46
StuttergartI have a device string for the package maintainer of libsane to add to the stuff for hotplug. Who do I contact? The Debian maintainer or someone @ Ubuntu?01:46
danielsdebian, preferably01:47
troll_godaToaster: i regret it, my advice is if ati drivers work don't touch system, while a simple apt might no break it i have been disapointed with the fglrx package, it fails silently -- that always pisses me off01:47
Stuttergartdaniels: does that mean that it won't be added to Ubuntu until the next release?01:47
aToastertroll_god: I can't seem to get 3d accelartion working and I hear hoary has the drivers in the repository, thought it might install better that way01:47
lflackanyone know of a decent external USB CR-RW drive that will work on a laptop running Ubuntu?01:48
troll_godaToaster: I can't speak for those who don't compile their own kernel, how ever next time i can get a custom kernel to compile and the ATI drivers to run i won't ever upgrade system again01:48
LinuxJonesThe NVidia Binary Drivers seem to be whining about some Failure Reading EDID Parameters and will not load. I just installed Hoary has anybody seen this ?01:48
tuxlflack, check the hardware compatibility list on the wiki01:48
troll_godaToaster: Im using 2.6.11rc2-mm2, and there IS NO WAY to get ATI drivers to run01:48
lflacktux, I poked around there and found compatible systems, and other components, but couldn't find a section on drives.01:49
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troll_godaToaster: I have already filed a bug report about it on the ATI monitered rage3d.com boards01:49
aToastertroll_god: lol, ok, dang, man thats the only thing thats keeping me from switching over to linux completely, (err that and my need for macromedia flash)01:50
troll_godaToaster: In addition I will add that i was unable to get ATI drivers to work with 2.6.10 as well, but there is now a patch for 2.6.10 and ATI if you want to use the 2.6.10 kernel (it has broken AGPGART keep in mind)01:50
aToastertroll_god: what problems are you having with it?01:50
bisclaveretheh. all i want the nvidia drivers for is so i don't have to constantly switch in/out my vidcard and reenable onboard every time i want to use linux and or windows :p01:50
danielsStuttergart: probably, yes01:51
danielsLinuxJones: sounds like a bug in the nvidia drivers -- try #nvidia01:51
troll_godaToaster: The problem originated with 2.6.8 on hoary. When xorg first was dropped into hoary it took an additional 2months(?) for drivers to be released from ATI01:51
LinuxJonesdaniels, ok thanks01:51
bisclaveretoh dear god at the downloading i'l have to do after enabling all those repositories01:51
LinuxJonesjoin #nvidia01:51
LinuxJonesblah01:52
danielstroll_god: why are you trying to compile your own kernel?01:52
troll_godaToaster: When the were released iw as running 2.6.10 custom, wo/ ATI Patch, because while ATI released them for 2.6.10 they never tested them and it didn't work, now the patch is available on rage3d, then i patched them and i found out 2.6.10 had bad AGPGART support, see 2.6.11rc2 buildnotes, so i decided to upgrade thinking it would be easier, 2.6.11rc2mm2 currently does not have the patch though for ati01:52
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troll_goddaniels: I was doing work with ALSA and mplayer =/, plus i have the .config and when i get things working ill use random kernel hacks i find for fun01:53
danielsalsa and mplayer do not require 2.6.11rc2mm101:53
troll_goddaniels: the point isn't why im running a custom kernel, i am, the point is it doesn't work with mine.01:53
aToastertroll_god: what is AGPGART anyways? I tried the whole Option "UseInternalAGPGART" "no" thing to try to get it to work (unfortunatly fglrxinfo still says I'm using mesa)01:54
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troll_goddaniels: no but mplayer requires OSS support, either through ALSA or the depreciated sound system, and i wanted to play around with that01:54
danielsright, but running a custom kernel and getting surprised when stuff breaks (because of kernel changes) isseems a little odd to me01:54
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danielstroll_god: btw, mplayer doesn't require oss -- i use it without oss support01:54
troll_goddaniels: take out oss from ALSA, and disable it in the kernel, it will error out with fail to open sound device, the bug report has been filed and its already in CVS as being fixed01:55
troll_godpre5 (current version) does not have the fix though.01:55
gobeavsis there any reason to upgrade to the hoary right now?01:55
gobeavs*upgrade to hoary01:55
troll_godaToaster: If your getting that error, and you have 'fglrx' as your drive in XF86Config-4, then the module is failing to load, check your XFree86.0.log, in /etc/var, or dmesg | grep fglrx01:56
mjg59gobeavs: Unless you're keen on testing things, no01:56
danielstroll_god: try '-ao alsa' or '-ao alsa9'01:56
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troll_goddaniels: it still won't work, it will just use oss support through alsa01:56
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troll_goddaniels: see linuxquestions.org/questions/history/271161 for an error simular to what i got01:58
aToaster[fglrx]  Maximum main memory to use for locked dma buffers: 929 MBytes.01:59
aToaster[fglrx]  module loaded - fglrx 3.12.0 [Jul 16 2004]  on minor 001:59
aToaster[fglrx:firegl_unlock]  *ERROR* Process 4126 using kernel context 001:59
aToastertroll_god: is the error message I get from dmeseg01:59
danielstroll_god: that report says that everything still works02:00
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troll_goddaniels: It didn't for me. stderr shot out messages like that, mplayer failed on audio output silently, gmplayer, failed by outputting a dialog box 1000thousand times a second with a message like failed to open device, also without audio02:01
mjg59aToaster: That's not strictly an error02:01
mjg59(Well, it's an error, but it's not one that should matter too much)02:01
troll_goddaniels: Anyway supposed to be fixed, in CVS i talked to Mplayer devs about it, i just didn't care to upgrade it and try it, gxine and VLC work fine02:01
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troll_godaToaster: I believe the DMA error is the AGPGART, are you using 2.6.10?02:02
aToastermjg59: troll_god: odd then, because everything seems to be in order, but fglrx still says I'm using mesa02:02
aToastertroll_god: I believe so, how do I check?02:02
tuxwhats the diff. between totem and totem-gstreamer ?02:02
troll_godaToaster: uname -v02:02
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troll_godtotem-gstreamer is a meta package that uses gstreamer plugin for sound02:02
troll_godafaik02:02
aToastertroll_god: uname -a you mean? I'm using 2.6.8.1-4-68602:02
mjg59troll_god: Uses gstreamer for everything02:03
tuxah ok thx02:03
mjg59totem-gstreamer is totem built against gstreamer as the media backend02:03
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tuxim having problems viewing an .avi file02:04
troll_godaToaster: uanem -r works too =D, im not sure what your problem is -- there are an infinate ammount of ways fglrx can fail, if you can't modprobe them, and all of your stuff is compiled by the ubuntu team, then they should be able to assist you02:04
tuxshould i revert back to totem as opposed to totem-gstreamer ?02:04
mjg59tux: With warty, totem-xine is likely to work better than totem-gstreamer02:04
tuxim using hoary02:04
troll_godaToaster: you can always play around with fglrxconfig, and glxinfo, too, rage3d has most dedicated support group for ATI products from what i can get at, might want to ask one of those guys =/02:05
TwiggyHey ~ I'm trying to upgrade to hoary, but I keep getting an error unpacking libgtksourceview-common02:06
TwiggyAnybody know if there's a fixed package somewhere?02:06
bisclaveretdamn. after doing what was in the add extra repositories thing in the guide.... thats just way too much to update :p02:06
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aToastertroll_god: fglrxconfig doesn't list my video card (x800) and I'm not too sure what to pick, anyways, what w ould I do with modprobe?02:07
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troll_godaToaster: modprobe fglrx02:07
troll_godaToaster: your video card might not be supported by fglrx then, you might have DRI support if its old enough pre925002:08
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aToastertroll_god: modprobe fglrx doesn't return anything02:08
jeavishi somebony can help me02:09
troll_godaToaster: do lsmod | grep fglrx02:09
jeavistrey3: Hi trey302:09
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aToastertroll_god: fglrx                 214820  002:09
aToaster look normal?02:09
troll_godaToaster: yes02:10
aToasterAre there any linux firefox plugins that support .mov or .wmv?02:10
troll_godaToaster: So you have the first half of the problem done, you have fglrx working just get x to use it now, the other half of the problem02:10
jeavishi02:11
troll_godaToaster: vlc, or xine will support .wmv wo/ wmv9 audio, nothing supports .mov to my knowledge yet =/02:11
jeavisI need help02:11
jeavisI cant open this page02:11
jeavishttp://cursos.itesm.mx02:11
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jeavissomeboy can say me why02:11
troll_godaToaster: by that i mean you can watch .wmv9 video as long as they have mpeg audio or something on those lines windows media audio codec is still worthless =/02:12
LinuxJonesjeavis, it opens fine for me02:12
Yannick_troll_god, just install w32codec02:12
jeavisLinuxJones: The page display username and password02:12
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troll_godYannick_: i have w32codec, it doesn't support all forms of audio =/ check the learner.org language videos for examples of files that i have since not been able to get playback for in linux02:12
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TwiggyHas anybody upgraded to hoary lately that knows about a problem with unpacking libgtksourceview-common?02:13
Yannick_oups, sorry02:13
Yannick_I though It was doing it02:13
Amaranthtroll_god: they might be wmv302:13
LinuxJonesjeavis, yeah on the right hand side02:13
troll_godAmaranth: I think thats what im going for =/ yar get video not audio02:13
aToastertroll_god: there a log for x so I check if it tries to load the drivers?02:13
Amaranthoh, if you get video it isn't wmv302:13
chutwigif i move grub's root partition by modifying /boot/grub/menu.lst, do i need to re-run it?02:14
troll_godAmaranth: I only get video using vlc02:14
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Amaranthi don't know why someone would use wmv3 over avc02:14
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aToastertroll_god: ah nm, found it02:14
jeavisLinuxJones: I use Morilla Firefox 0.93 what web browser do you use?02:15
troll_godaToaster: yes, 'grep fglrx /var/log/X*'02:15
LinuxJonesmozilla 1.002:15
aToastertroll_god: (WW) fglrx(0): Kernel Module version does *not* match driver.02:15
aToaster(EE) fglrx(0): incompatible kernel module detected - HW accelerated OpenGL will not work02:15
aToastertroll_god: guess that answer my question, well, thanks for all your help02:15
jeavisLinuxJones: I tray to with mozilla 1.0 and dint display me the page02:16
jeavisLinusJones: What do you think thats is the problem02:16
aToastertroll_god: Ah but, looking at it again, it seems to be loading the old module... (II) fglrx(0): Kernel Module Version Information:02:16
aToaster(II) fglrx(0):     Name: fglrx02:16
aToaster(II) fglrx(0):     Version: 3.12.002:16
aToaster(II) fglrx(0):     Date: Jul 16 200402:16
troll_godaToaster: dice, now send that in a bug report to the ubuntu devs, tell them you got all of your stuff with apt, and it failed to load, and your using warty, xfree86, kernel version ____ and drivers, include package numbers if you can02:16
LinuxJonesjeavis, i have no idea :(02:18
aToastertroll_god: yea I think, for some reason it's loading the old driver02:18
troll_godaToaster: auctually you can just 'dpkg -l > sendme && uname -a >> sendme' and then upload sendme to bugzilla or a newsgroup =/02:18
danielsehm02:18
jeavisLinuxJones: psssssssssssssss :(02:18
danielsare you attempting to install the new ati drivers on warty yourself?02:18
danielsif so, that's unsupported, for obvious reasons02:18
jeavisdaniels: Do you said that for me02:19
troll_goddaniels: I thought he said he got them w/ apt02:19
aToastertroll_god: daniels: ah no, I was trying to install the .rpm (which I turned into a .deb)02:20
aToasterdaniels: what would the obvious reasons be?02:20
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aToasterdaniels: and I'm using the 2.6.8.1-4-686 kernel if that counts for anything?02:21
troll_godaToaster: that the ubuntu kernel has patches on it that the ATI team didn't anticipate02:21
danielsaToaster: right.  don't do that.02:21
Amaranthdoes the ubuntu kernel have inotify?02:21
troll_godaToaster: i believe ubuntu uses the mm kernel patch, the ATI drivers are released for venallia02:22
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Amaranthooh, mm has inotify02:22
Amaranthdaniels could tell you for sure02:22
troll_godWhat is inotify?02:22
HrdwrBoBtroll_god: kernel notifier for dbus02:23
Amaranthbeagle uses it02:23
danielsaToaster: a) those packages aren't for ubuntu.  they're for red hat and suse.  hence nce the .rpm thing.  secondly, you already have a version of fglrx installed via linux-restricted-modules, and you're trying to install another one over the top o fit, and it's not working.02:23
danielsatwe only support the packages in our repositories.  that's why we package fglrx.02:23
HrdwrBoBiitc02:23
danielsinotify lets you hook in to notifications of changed files/directories, basically02:24
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aToasterdaniels: alright, *shrugs* didn't know, thought I'd give it a try anyways02:24
troll_godaToaster: Thats a good point daniels brings up, the fglrx package should be in the restricted modules package, or just apt-get install xfree86-fglr-driver, and you should get the newest one anyway? daniels did they upload the new ATI drivers to woody or would he have to upgrade to hoary to get that?02:25
Dddavehi, can anyone help me with a printer sharing problem (linux <--> windows)02:25
Dddavei'm trying to get my ubuntu box to connect to a printer on a windows machine02:26
Dddavebut it doesn't want to print02:26
Dddavei have samba set up okay (i think -> file sharing works fine)02:26
troll_godDddave: ever use the cusps webadmin?02:26
Dddaveno, what is that?02:26
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tuxwheres a good place for getting ubuntu themes ?02:27
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LinuxJonestux, Ubuntu themes or Gnome themes ?02:28
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troll_godDddave: err your using samba, i thought this was usb02:28
MightyMooquackI just installed Ubuntu and need a bit of guidance.02:28
Kokeytux, I found some in http://gnome-look.org02:28
tuxwhere gnome themes , based on ubuntu :P02:29
stevecan anyone tell me how to access windows from within linux02:29
tuxKokey, thx02:29
julioMightMooquack.... a good place to start is www.ubuntuguide.org02:29
stevei tried mount and it wasn't happening02:29
danielstroll_god: the new ones are only in hoary; warty is frozen02:29
troll_godDddave: try administration->printing in gnome, add printer, ive never added a samba printer wo/ GUI =[02:29
juliosteve...you probably also need ntfs support. i think it can be found in synaptics/apt-get02:29
Dddaveyes, trying to print from ubuntu box to a printer on a windows box02:29
LinuxJonessteve see julio's link ^^02:29
stevecool02:29
steveso apt-get instll synaptics02:30
Dddavei tried adding printer thru gui02:30
steveinstall02:30
Dddaveseems fine at first.. just doent print!02:30
juliono......go to synaptics, and search 'ntfs'02:30
steveoh02:30
stevecool02:30
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juliolibntfs502:31
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julioi believe that's what you need.02:31
EvolutionRAnyone here use a firestarter firewaill?02:31
julioi may be wrong.02:31
troll_goddaniels: If he would have switched to hoary repos and got the fglrx-driver, would it have installed on his xfree86 with warty kernel? out of curiosity02:31
EvolutionRAnyone here use a firestarter firewall?02:31
julioI do.02:31
julioevolution.02:31
MightyMooquackIf I have a wireless network card in my box, and I didn't configure it on install, how do I get Ubuntu to see it?02:32
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troll_godMightyMooquack: sudo dpkg-reconfigure net-base ? maybe02:32
EvolutionRjulio: everytime I reboot my linux box...an error message came out "You did not have enough privileges to start firestater" do u have this problem b4?02:32
LinuxJonesMightyMooquack, >> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards/view?searchterm=wireless%20network02:33
stevejulio, now that it is installed, what next02:33
juliosteve. go to www.ubuntuguide.org02:33
LinuxJonesnight all02:33
julioit'll guide you better than i could.02:33
marcin_antEvolutionR: you need to input your password to run firestarter02:33
stevecool02:33
danielstroll_god: nope, because it's only built for 2.6.1002:34
marcin_antEvolutionR: just remove firestarter from your session02:34
julioEvolutionR...do what marcin said.02:34
marcin_antEvolutionR: I mean from gnome-session02:34
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snoopdoggi need help02:34
julioi must be off.02:34
EvolutionRmarcin_ant just remove the firestarter command in session?02:34
K-Richdon't we all :P02:34
julioadios my peoples.02:34
MightyMooquackHmm. That site doesn't mention the card I have. (D-Link DWL-G510)02:34
EvolutionRsudo firestarter --start-hidden02:35
EvolutionRremove that?02:35
troll_godMightyMooquack: you might need ndiswrapper02:35
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marcin_antEvolutionR: Desktop -> preferences -> sessions02:35
raydogg``has anyone went fullscreen with vmware and an ATI video card in ubuntu ?02:35
marcin_antEvolutionR: remove firestarter from current session02:36
marcin_antEvolutionR: or startup list02:36
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EvolutionRokie I've input the sudo firestarter --start-hidden  in the startup gnome session preferences...okie I will remove it. Will it load the firestarter everytime I boot on my linux box?02:36
marcin_antEvolutionR: firestater is always up - it works as service02:36
EvolutionRokie02:37
EvolutionRthanks02:37
EvolutionRremove done!02:37
marcin_antEvolutionR: /etc/init.d/firestarter status02:37
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keknehvIs there any way to obtain a hoary network install disk?02:37
christopher_HI02:38
christopher_I am new to linux02:38
marcin_antEvolutionR: you need to run frontent only when you need to do some administrative tasks02:38
christopher_and Ubuntu02:38
EvolutionRokie!02:38
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geppyWhy is aumix not in Hoary?02:38
christopher_can you please instruct me on how to get to the list of downloadable programs02:38
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christopher_Think of me as computer illiterite02:39
christopher_please02:39
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geppychristopher:  sudo apt-cache search program_you_want02:39
christopher_uh no02:39
christopher_UM02:39
christopher_The list of programs that I can download online02:39
christopher_I forget what it is called02:39
geppychristopher:  sudo aptitude ?02:39
christopher_synoptics package manager02:40
christopher_thats it02:40
Linksmansynaptic02:40
christopher_how do i get to it02:40
christopher_sure02:40
christopher_i cant spell02:40
Linksmanno prosbelm :-)02:40
geppysudo synaptic ?02:40
christopher_lets imagin I am a 14 year old kid who hates windows is use to Max OSX but has a windows computer so is being forced to use Ubuntu02:41
randabisThere's also a launcher for synaptic...02:41
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christopher_Anything acessab;e from the Applications menu?02:41
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randabisIt's in the Computer menu christopher02:42
christopher_???02:42
ironwolfchristopher_:synaptic is in the menus... not under applications though.02:42
bisclavereteven after enabling all the resources as told in the ubuntu users guide, i can't apt-get install nvidia-settings02:42
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giardhas anyone heard of any problems setting up Ubuntu on a asus p4p800-e motherboard?02:42
geppychristopher:  Do you know if you're running Warty or Hoary?02:42
christopher_gee thanks02:42
christopher_Wart y02:42
christopher_warty02:42
christopher_at the moment02:42
randabisIt's in the COMPUTER menu...02:43
geppychristopher:  "gee thanks"?02:43
christopher_uh02:43
christopher_right02:43
geppybisclaveret:  sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx settings02:43
randabisYou should have two...Applications, Computer02:43
geppybisclaveret:  sudo nvidia-glx-settings enable02:43
christopher_thank you02:43
christopher_I found it02:43
geppybisclaveret:  I missed a hyphen between glx in the first one, sorry02:43
christopher_I appreciate it02:43
christopher_See ya02:43
randabisnp02:43
bisclaveretgeppy: the guide says02:44
bisclaveret $ sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx02:44
bisclaveret$ sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings02:44
bisclaveret$ sudo nvidia-glx-config enable02:44
bisclaveret$ nautilus applications:///System02:44
bisclavereti did the first one though02:44
EvolutionRI've restarted linux box...already removed the sudo firestarter command line on the gnome sesssions startup. The error window still pops up, but no firestarter on my taskbar anymore. "Insufficient Privileges" You be root to run firestarter.02:44
geppybisclaveret:  What did it say?02:44
bisclaveretthe second gives me02:44
bisclaveretPackage nvidia-settings is not available, but is referred to by another package.This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or02:44
bisclaveretis only available from another source02:44
bisclaveretE: Package nvidia-settings has no installation candidate02:44
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geppybisclaveret:  That's odd,  it installs fine for me.02:45
bisclaveretit also doesn't show up in synaptic02:45
geppybisclaveret:  Do you know how to enable multiverse/universe?02:45
jbahey guys, is there a way to get the ubuntu installer cd to boot a minimal kernel (like with the redhat "rescue" cd option) ?02:45
geppybisclaveret:  If you do 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-config', does that work?02:46
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bisclaveretgeppy: i replaced /etc/apt.sources.list with what was found in http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories02:46
bisclavereti couldn't apt-get upgrade yet though, as that would take too insanely long atm02:46
bisclaveret(150 megs on a dialup)02:46
geppybisclaveret:  Have you run 'apt-get update'?02:47
hybridis there a ubuntu ppc channel on this server?02:47
EvolutionRseems like my firestarter is not running when I've rebooted? in grc.com/shieldsup it displayed all "closed" not even stealth mode "Fail"!02:47
randabisit should be /etc/apt/sources.list not /etc/apt.sources.list02:47
bisclaveretaye i did02:48
bisclaveretand it installed those updates02:48
geppybisclaveret:  I missed that, look at what randabis said.02:48
K-Richrandabis: what is that transparent terminal you use on your laptops root window ?02:48
bisclaveretrandabis: i misspelled it in here02:48
geppybisclaveret:  Can you try 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-config'?02:49
randabisK-Rich, Terminal02:49
marcin_antEvolutionR: you need to know if firestarter daemon is running02:49
K-Richrandabis: errr.... how?02:49
randabisI've actually changed things around now though...Not running Gnome anymore02:49
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marcin_antEvolutionR: sudo /etc/init.d/firestarter status02:49
randabisK-Rich it has a very nice preferences menu that lets you change things02:49
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bisclaveretbisclaveret@Dragon:~ $ sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-config02:50
bisclaveretReading Package Lists... Done02:50
bisclaveretBuilding Dependency Tree... Done02:50
bisclaveretE: Couldn't find package nvidia-glx-config02:50
bisclaveretbisclaveret@Dragon:~ $02:50
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randabisthat's incorrect02:50
randabishave you installed nvidia-glx?02:50
randabisif so,02:50
randabissudo nvidia-glx-config enable02:50
EvolutionRmarcin_ant: I forgot to remove the line at /etc/sudoers, username ALL= NOPASSWD:/usr/sbin/firestarter  :)02:50
geppy|awaybisclaveret:  Sorry, 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx'02:50
bisclaveretnvidia-glx is already the newest version.02:50
bisclaveret0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 106 not upgraded.02:50
hybriddoes anyone know of a good bittorrent downloader for ubuntu02:50
Agrajagbittornado-gui02:51
randabisAzureus, bittorrent, bittornado02:51
geppy|awaybisclaveret:  sudo nvidia-glx-config enable02:51
hybridok thnx02:51
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EvolutionRhybrid: I think the best is Azureus then bitcomet !02:51
bisclaveretokay, that did something. how do i restart x server?02:51
EvolutionRI like Azureus02:51
randabisCTRL ALT BACKSPACE02:51
randabisthat will restart X02:51
chiuhummhow do you share your folders?02:52
M3taactually, that kills it, doesn't restart it. gdm restarts it.02:52
hybridi tried azureus on mac and didnt understand it02:52
randabisM3ta generally gdm will automatically restart it though02:53
K-Richrandabis: mind sharing the command line you use?02:53
EvolutionRhybrid: what u mean dint understand it?02:53
randabisK-Rich what do you mean?02:53
K-Richrandabis: I've been trying to do it with eterm with no success02:53
randabisI don't use eterm02:53
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K-Richrandabisto make it on the root window02:53
K-Rich(over the wallpaper)02:53
bisclaveretit restarted, then crapped out on me telling me it coudln't restart x cause the configuration is wrong02:54
EvolutionRAnyone knows how to edit the Grub options when booted, some of the line I want to remove, noob!02:54
randabisI told you, I just edited my options in the preferences menu02:54
K-Richrandabis: heh i know... yo said 'terminal'02:54
geppy|awayEvolutionR:  /boot/grub/grub.conf02:54
EvolutionRokie02:54
K-Richrandabis: you mean gnome-terminal ?02:55
randabisno02:55
geppy|awayEvolutionR:  Wait, no, that's wrong.02:55
randabisI mean Terminal02:55
hybridi couldnt get it to open the torrents02:55
geppy|awayrandabis terminal is just a generic name02:55
M3tarandabis: i don't use gdm. believe me, ctrl alt del kills X, does not restart it :)02:55
EvolutionRthere's no info on the grub.conf????????????????????????????02:55
randabisgeppy there is an XFCE app called Terminal02:55
K-Richrandabis: the one from GNUStep ?02:55
geppy|awayrandabis: my bad02:55
randabisM3ta I know, but in general most ubuntu users use gnome/gdm02:56
K-Richrandabis: okay... that is where i got confused, there is a Terminal proggie for GNUStep as well 'apt-cache search terminal'02:56
EvolutionRgeppy|away:  there's no info on the grub.conf????????????????????????????02:56
M3tarandabis: ok, with that assumption... then it "restarts" it ;)02:56
chiuhummhow do you share a folder?  Like on a network.02:56
M3taTerminal is the one from www.os-cillation.org right? pretty nice.02:56
randabisI didn't get my program from apt K-Rich02:56
marcin_antEvolutionR: /boot/grub/menu.lst02:56
geppy|awayEvolutionR:  /etc/grub/menu.lst02:56
K-Richrandabis: i c02:56
EvolutionRokie!02:56
randabisI used the Terminal installer at osillation02:57
geppy|awayargh, I need to just copy and paste.02:57
randabisthe site that provides the XFCE graphical installer02:57
EvolutionR<marcin_ant> EvolutionR: /boot/grub/menu.lst02:57
EvolutionR<geppy|away> EvolutionR:  /etc/grub/menu.lst which one is rite?02:57
geppy|awayEvolutionR:  not me02:57
geppy|awayEvolutionR:  /boot02:57
hybridumm i am kinda embarassed to ask this but call me a n00b cuz i am how do you compile from source?02:57
EvolutionRhehehehe02:57
geppy|awayhybrid:  Install a program from source?02:57
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hybridyes02:57
randabishybrid, first you need the basic build tools, you can get them from a package called build-essential02:58
geppy|awayhybrid:  It should come with an INSTALL file, but './configure' 'make' 'sudo make install' is what most require.02:58
randabisthen follow geppy's advice02:58
EvolutionRwait a minute I dont see any Grub on the /etc?02:58
geppy|awayEvolutionR:  look in /boot/grub/menu.lst02:58
ironwolfhaggai: awake?02:59
randabisif the compile ever fails, it is likely that you are missing dependencies required by the source02:59
M3taEvolutionR: tip: updatedb, locate menu.lst02:59
EvolutionR<geppy|away> EvolutionR:  look in /boot/grub/menu.lst you're rite <marcin_ant> EvolutionR: /boot/grub/menu.lst you're wrong eheheheh :P02:59
EvolutionRM3ta : okie03:00
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geppy|awayI just fresh-installed Hoary, and my scroll wheel wasn't detected;  how do I enable it?03:00
randabisI don't see why it wouldn't be in /boot/grub/menu.lst...that's where ubuntu puts it by default03:00
bisclaveretso after i ran that, it complains that it can't start X now :p03:00
raydogg``apt-get install linux-source doesn't work, how do you install the kernel source ( so i can compile a kernel module ? )03:00
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geppy|awayraydogg``:  get module-assistant03:01
randabisraydogg, it does work...it puts the source in tarball for at /usr/src03:01
bisclaverethrm wait, trying something. brain is running reealy slow :p03:01
randabisfor =form03:01
raydogg``it said it couldn't find the package for me03:01
EvolutionRgeppy|away: did u try the Desktop > Preferences> Mouse ?03:01
randabisbut generally to compile kernel modules you don't need the kernel source...you need the kernel headers for your running kernel03:01
raydogg``ok, how do i install the kernel headers ?03:02
geppy|awayEvolutionR:  There's no way to enable the scroll wheel from that dialog.03:02
randabissudo apt-get install linux-headers03:02
randabisif you aren't finding these packages, you need to edit your sources.list03:02
EvolutionRgeppy|away: ok I cant help u....try ubuntu guide?03:02
randabisyou probably don't have "restricted" enabled03:02
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geppy|awayEvolutionR:  I'll try it, thanks.03:03
Croccifixiohello, anybody around?03:03
mikeyea03:03
EvolutionRgeppy|away: ur welcome!03:03
geppy|away=)03:03
Croccifixioi got a lil trouble installing ubuntu03:03
raydogg``it found the linux-headers03:03
raydogg``installing now03:03
M3tageppy|away: edit xorg.conf and add Option "AZxisMapping" "4 5" under Section "InputDevide"03:03
Croccifixiohad no prob on one machine03:03
raydogg``thx rand03:03
Croccifixiobut on the other one it has some,03:04
M3taerm, not "AZ , it's "ZA03:04
raydogg``Has anyone tried to go fullscreen with an ati card in vmware on unbuntu ?03:04
randabisraydogg``, keep in mind I said "in general" :) what module are you trying to install anyway?03:04
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neighborleeCroccifixio, what kind of problems are you having03:04
Croccifixioactually, nevermind, everything works fine now :P03:04
Croccifixiowas a little hardware mistake i made, nothing major , fixed03:04
neighborleeCroccifixio, oh ok ;-)heh03:05
EvolutionRb4 I remove the 2 nd kernel lines from the Grub! How to uninstall/remove the 2nd kernel (old kernel) ?03:05
Croccifixiowanted to ask , i am planning on running a cs server off it, as well as and ftp one03:05
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raydogg``vmware module03:05
Croccifixiononono, not play cs03:05
Croccifixioi got a subscribtion to cedega03:05
Croccifixiofor playing03:05
randabisEvolutionR, sudo apt-get --purge remove nameofkernelpackage03:05
Croccifixiobut i mean run a dedicated server03:05
EvolutionRrandabis: okie!03:06
neighborleeCroccifixio, I thought cs worked in regular wine..shrug03:06
Croccifixionononno03:06
Croccifixionot play it !03:06
randabisThat will automatically remove it from your menu.lst as well so you don't even have to change anything manually03:06
Croccifixiomake a dedicated server03:06
geppy|awayM3ta: Thanks!  Something was broken with my Hoary install, though, and the only xorg.confs that I'm 'locating' are backups, and manpage examples.03:06
Croccifixiothere are plenty of dedicated linux servers around03:06
Croccifixioi wanna make one too03:06
Croccifixioserver machine,03:06
Croccifixioi got my desktop and server03:06
Croccifixiowanna run a cs server off the linux server03:07
Croccifixiowanna know how :P03:07
geppy|awayM3ta:  Somehow, it didn't install any X packages, so I had to apt-get 'em, and somehow it's missing an xorg.conf... I don't see how I got into X without it generating one.03:07
EvolutionRhow to check the wat kernel version I have currently?03:07
M3tageppy|away: it's the same procedure for xfree8603:07
randabisit might be still using Xfree geppy03:07
Croccifixiocheck in grub03:07
geppy|awayEvolutionR:  uname -r03:07
Croccifixioits always said there03:07
Croccifixiowhen you boot03:07
Croccifixio2.6.8 probably03:07
geppy|awayM3ta:  I have x.org, and there's no XF86-config03:07
neighborleeCroccifixio, you'd get better support i'm sure in #gametome ..iv'e no idea since I 've never played it or served it ...try that other channel...03:07
Croccifixioah03:08
Croccifixiothanks!03:08
neighborleenp03:08
Croccifixio(its all linux chan right?03:08
EvolutionRok03:08
neighborleeCroccifixio, sure is03:08
Croccifixioso i wont get windows users trying to explain me how to set it up on windows03:08
Croccifixiothanks!03:08
Croccifixioi got one more question for you guys03:08
neighborleeyw03:08
EvolutionRgeppy|away: what's uname for?03:08
Croccifixioftp server03:08
M3tageppy|away: no xorg.conf and no XF86Config-4 anywhere?03:08
randabisit should be in /etc/X11/xorg.conf03:08
Croccifixiowhats the best util to run ftp serv?03:09
geppy|awayM3ta:  Right, neither of them are there.03:09
M3tayeah, at least one of them should.. i can't figure out how you even got into X :)03:09
Croccifixionottoo complicated03:09
Croccifixiobut secure03:09
Croccifixiostable03:09
geppy|awayrandabis: That's what I was thinking.  =)03:09
Croccifixioetc..03:09
Croccifixioand user friendly03:09
Croccifixioi mean like03:09
Croccifixionot too complicated03:09
Croccifixioby user friendly03:09
geppy|awayM3ta:  Neither can I!  =)   Shouldn't it have automatically generated one?03:09
Croccifixioso i can setup everything like i need03:09
Croccifixiowithout too much trouble03:09
randabisCroccifixio, you could try gFTP03:10
Croccifixiois it secure?03:10
geppy|awayM3ta:  At first, I couldn't get in, because there wasn't a config, and I wasn't sure why... so I ran nvidia-glx-config enable, which made one, or so I though... at least it let me into X03:10
Croccifixiodont want some guy hijaciking my machine03:10
M3tageppy|away: indeed it should. i'm not sure if apt-get install --reinstall or a dpkg--reconfigure will help, but i can honestly tell you it's what i would try next03:10
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geppy|awayM3ta:  What would you try next?03:10
randabisI don't see why it wouldn't be...security would lie more in the protocol than in the user interface03:10
geppy|awayM3ta:  Oops, misread that, sory.03:10
geppy|away*sorry03:11
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Croccifixioapt-get install gftp would be correct or should i look in synaptic?03:11
geppy|awayM3ta:  Which packages would I reconfigure?  xserver-xorg?03:11
randabisyes sudo apt-get install gftp should do the trick03:11
Croccifixiokk , one more thing03:11
M3tageppy|away: xorg-common, xserver-xorg03:11
geppy|awayM3ta:  danke03:11
Croccifixiofor bins, its ./configure <bin> or is it dpkg? been a while sorry :P03:12
bisclaveretnope. after turning off the computer, installing the vidcard, and rebooting, X refuses to restart after running that command03:12
raydogg``randabis, thanks, i got vmware installed in ubuntu now :-)03:12
hou5tonanyone know of a linux app that will print contact sheets for folders of images?03:12
M3tageppy|away: bitte03:12
randabisCroccifixio, .bin? sh foo.bin or ./foo.bin03:12
Croccifixioo that03:12
Croccifixioright :P03:12
Croccifixiothanks'03:12
M3taa X running without conf... damn, and i thought i saw everything03:12
randabisraydogg``, great!03:12
Croccifixioil stick around,03:12
Croccifixiousing a KVM03:12
Croccifixiocant be everywhere at same time03:12
CroccifixioBe Right Back checkout the install03:12
Croccifixiostill installing updates03:12
bisclaveretand now i can't get x to run with my onboard video :p03:13
Croccifixio.. sigh03:13
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bisclaveretanyone have any other suggestions?03:14
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geppy|awayM3ta:  I'm still not getting an xorg.conf...  Should I just google for one?03:15
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geppy|awayM3ta:  This is decidedly the weirdest problem I've ever had, even weirder than the time that my kernel started printing "AIEEE!!!" all over the place.03:16
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caramboli have install kde03:17
carambolcan i remove gnome totally?03:17
Riddellcarambol: awooga03:17
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carambolwith out problems03:17
Riddellcarambol: you need to keep gnome-menus because the k-menu needs a file provided by it03:18
Riddellotherwise yes03:18
carambolwhats that:ok03:18
EvolutionRhow to search for the kernel versions? any command for it?03:18
Riddellunfortunatly gnome-menus has a lot of dependencies03:18
geppy|awayEvolutionR:  uname -r03:18
carambolbut i removed evolution03:18
carambolRiddell: i romoved evolution03:19
geppy|awaycarambol:  Why remove GNOME?  It's not exactly filling up your hard-drive... and if you don't like GNOME, use Mepis, or Debian.03:19
geppy|awaycarambol:  Not using GNOME takes away most of the advantage of using Ubuntu.03:19
carambolok03:19
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carambolok03:20
Riddellcarambol: good. feel free to use ubuntu without gnome, it is allowed03:20
raydoggis there a smb4k equivalent in ubuntu/gnome ?03:20
carambolbut i wont get problems?03:20
geppy|awayraydogg:  Is smb4k not in universe, or multiverse, or something?03:21
CroccifixioNo response in #gametone, any other similar channels?03:21
raydoggapt-get install smb4k returns nothing03:21
Riddellcarambol: not at all, the k-menu dependency is the only major issue03:21
carambolok03:21
raydoggI have not edited any verses tho03:21
carambolthanks03:21
Riddellraydogg: smb4k is in universe03:21
raydoggah03:21
raydoggok03:21
raydoggguides shows me how to add that ?03:21
M3tageppy|away: you should feel honored. the "AIEEE" errors are not for everyone's "pleasure" ;)03:22
EvolutionRgeppY|away: how bout list all kernels ?03:22
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Riddellraydogg: https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/InstallingKDE03:22
eyequeueEvolutionR:  ls /boot03:22
CroccifixioNo response in #gametone, any other similar channels?03:22
geppy|awayM3ta:  hahahahaha =D03:22
geppy|awayEvolutionR:  erm... look in the grub conf?  I've never looked for a way to do it.03:23
raydoggthx riddell03:23
EvolutionRokie!03:23
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EvolutionRapt-get --purge remove apt-get --purge remove kernel 2.6.8.103:25
raydoggRiddell, it says "add universe to sections" is it replacing main restricted, or is it main restricted universe03:26
EvolutionRis like this?03:26
geppy|awayM3ta: Hmm... How about I just put those options into a new text file where my xorg should be?  If it dies, it's no big problem, I can just reinstall.03:26
Riddellraydogg: keep main, add universe to the list03:26
EvolutionRopss sorry! wrong03:27
EvolutionRits like this apt-get --purge remove kernel 2.6.8.103:27
M3tageppy|away: seems logical. i've been fiddling with ubuntu on a laptop and i just freaked out becuase of the damn Synaptics Touchpad, and i'm reinstalling just because i kept a bunch of .confs elsewhere.03:27
EvolutionRapt-get --purge remove kernel-2.6.8.103:28
EvolutionRReading Package Lists... Done03:28
EvolutionRBuilding Dependency Tree... Done03:28
EvolutionRE: Couldn't find package kernel-2.6.8.103:28
M3taso, yeah, might be worth a shot if it's not too troublesome.03:28
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geppy|awayM3ta:  alright, cool.  Thanks!  =)03:30
eyequeueEvolutionR:  dpkg --purge linux-image-2.6.8.1-3-68603:30
M3tageppy|away: sorry for not actually fixing your prob, but i told you what i would do hehe03:30
MightyMooquackThis mobo has an onboard ethernet port. How do I get Ubuntu to see it?03:30
MightyMooquack(This same mobo used to be part of a FreeBSD box, which saw it just fine.)03:31
geppy|awayM3ta:  hahaha... It's cool, thanks anyways.  =D03:32
MightyMooquackNevermind.03:33
MightyMooquackI got it.03:33
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EvolutionR<eyequeue>: so I just type this dpkg --purge linux-image-2.6.8.1-3-686 it will remove ? how I know is the linux-image-2.6.8.1-3-686 need to remove? noob03:35
eyequeueEvolutionR:  well, let's slow dow a sec then.  i assumed you knew you wanted to remove that03:35
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eyequeueEvolutionR:  do you have a newer kernel you use now?03:35
EvolutionRyes of course I have a 2.6.10....and used it for few weeks, satisfied, decided to remove the old version that's 2.6.8 ....03:36
eyequeueEvolutionR:  okay then, cool03:36
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eyequeueEvolutionR:  sudo dpkg --purge linux-image-2.6.8.1-3-686  <-- that's safe to type then03:37
EvolutionReyequeue: is there any debian/ubuntu guide to remove the old kernel?03:37
EvolutionROk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1103:37
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eyequeueEvolutionR:  that will remove the kernel and all associated files from the package03:37
jbahey guys, what's the command executed that gets a root terminal on hoary ?03:38
tolstoysudo su?03:38
randabissudo su03:38
tolstoyor sudo -s?03:38
eyequeuejba:  probably "sudo -s"03:38
jbaaaah03:38
Croccifixiosudo apt-get install gftp doesnt work , it doesnt find it03:38
jbacause su - wasn't working form me, thanks dude03:38
Croccifixioas for my server, i found some good tutorials :D03:38
sladenjba: don't use a root terminal.  Do  sudo ...   if you actually /need/ to run that comand as root or another user03:39
raydoggI have all the repositories enabled and smb4k is still not showing up in a search03:39
EvolutionReyequeue: let's say next time I've installed few kernel versions, but how did I know which the correct param? like linux-image-2.6.8.1-3-68603:39
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jbasladen, yeah i know, but sometimes i need to execute alot of commands as root03:39
Croccifixioso any other good ftp server prog? (to make a serv not client)03:39
jbaand sudo this and sudo that gets annoyin03:39
EvolutionReyequeue: let's say next time I've installed few kernel versions, but how did I know which the correct param to remove? like linux-image-2.6.8.1-3-68603:39
borathey everyone, i'm looking to turn my ubnuntu machine into a streaming itunes music server... i have read this guy's article http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/wlg/6067 and i got the first part down pat.  However, the second step: sudo dpkg -i mt-daapd_0.2.0_sid_i386.deb i get an error: that the file is missing.  I know there is a new version of the file .2.1.1 but i can't get it installed anyone help?03:39
eyequeueEvolutionR:  one way, ls -l /usr/share/doc/linux-image-*03:39
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eyequeueEvolutionR:  then see which ones are listed03:40
EvolutionR<eyequeue>: okie I mark it down thanks!03:40
Croccifixiotrouble getting gftp, whats another good ftp server?03:40
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geppy|awayCroccifixio:  gftp != ftp server03:41
geppy|awayCroccifixio: pure-ftp03:41
geppy|awayCroccifixio:  gftp is a _client_03:41
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Chiara`Someone wish me luck with installing video drives... shudder.03:42
rempresenthow do you install a .deb file?03:42
geppy|awayrempresent:  dpkg -i file.deb03:42
eyequeuerempresent:  dpkg -i foo*.deb03:42
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EvolutionReyequeue: dpkg --purge linux-image-2.6.8.1-3-386 :)03:43
boratdo you have to cd to where the .deb file is03:43
Croccifixioah03:43
Croccifixioi need a server03:43
geppy|awayborat:  Either that, or type in the full path03:43
jbawow this channel gets some absolutely green debian converts doesn't it?03:43
Croccifixioso whats a good server?03:43
rempresentno, i downloaded one... and i just have a .deb03:43
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boratah i see03:43
geppy|awayborat:  e.g. 'sudo dpkg -i /path/to/file/foo*.deb'03:43
EvolutionRdpkg --purge linux-image-2.6.8.1-3-38603:43
EvolutionRdpkg: dependency problems prevent removal of linux-image-2.6.8.1-3-386:03:43
EvolutionR linux-restricted-modules-2.6.8.1-3-386 depends on linux-image-2.6.8.1-3-386.03:43
EvolutionR linux-image-2.6-386 depends on linux-image-2.6.8.1-3-386.03:43
EvolutionRdpkg: error processing linux-image-2.6.8.1-3-386 (--purge):03:43
EvolutionR dependency problems - not removing03:43
geppy|awayCroccifixio:  Like I said, pure-ftp03:43
EvolutionRErrors were encountered while processing:03:43
sladenjba: if you're executing alot of commands, then it's even MORE important that you use sudo03:43
EvolutionR linux-image-2.6.8.1-3-38603:43
borati try that... that might help me03:43
jbasladen, that's totally a debatable matter of opinion03:44
rempresenthas anyone gone here :  http://www.lynucs.org/index.php ?03:44
jbabut i'll let it be. I do like the whole concept of sudoing stuff in ubuntu03:44
XenguyCroccifixio: vsftpd is your best bet AFAICT03:44
eyequeueEvolutionR:  dpkg --piirge one two three <-- list all those pacakges, where i put "one two three"03:44
rempresentsome desktops that people have are totally pimp, is it hard to customize your desktop03:44
eyequeueourge i mean03:45
eyequeuepurge03:45
eyequeuelol03:45
EvolutionReyequeue: u mean dpkg --purge linux-image-2.6.8.1-3-386 linux-restricted-modules-2.6.8.1-3-386 linux-image-2.6-386  <-=- this correct?03:45
Croccifixiopure vs vsftpd... what are the strong / weak points of each please?03:46
eyequeueEvolutionR:  exactly :)03:46
randabiswhy not just use03:47
randabisapt-get --purge remove linux-image-2.6.8.1-3-38603:47
Croccifixiopure vs vsftpd... what are the strong / weak points of each please?03:47
eyequeuerandabis:  greater control :)03:47
sladenjba: okay.  Here's the reasons /I/ find useful.  (a) full audit log of what was /actually/ done.  (b) not executing incidental commands like 'ls' as root.  (c) having it in my command history so I can repeat blocks of commands at a keystroke03:48
randabiseyequeue fair enough :)03:48
speelhey i have 2 questions .. does ubuntu come with iptables installed and enabled? if so how do i shut iptables off?03:48
XenguyCroccifixio: http://linuxmafia.com/pub/linux/security/ftp-daemons03:48
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jbasladen, i don't want to debate it with you dude. for the most part i agree.03:48
Croccifixiothanks03:48
XenguyCroccifixio: judge for yourself :-)03:48
sladenjba: s/okay/okay, I'm happy to let it drop.  Btw, /    :)03:49
randabischanged my desktop...:p I think it's nifty03:49
randabishttp://img168.exs.cx/img168/8843/desktop9qe.jpg03:49
jbasladen, btw what? (I read that as by the way, ...)03:50
speelany one?03:50
borati'm trying to install mt-daap from a .deb file but i got this error cp: cannot stat `/usr/share/doc/mt-daapd/mt-daapd.conf': No such file or directory anyone know what's up with that03:50
rjgrangeneed a little help03:50
EvolutionReyequeue: http://pastebin.arslinux.com/1043  <---error on it need help03:50
rempresenthas anyone worked with flux?03:50
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msh_hi03:51
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msh_i just installed the pwx webcam driver as an independent moduke03:51
rjgrangecan someone help with a synaptic question?03:51
msh_module*03:51
geppy|awayrjgrange:  Just ask.03:51
msh_and did modprobe pwc03:51
socommHello. What is the port that Apache uses by default on Ubuntu.03:51
geppy|awaysocomm:  80?03:52
msh_i cant get my webcam to show up as a V4L device03:52
socommI got port fowarding on my router and I can't seem to reach my machine from the outside.03:52
msh_does anyoen have this problem03:52
rjgrangeattempted to install a package, but was awarded with an error message saying I had to use it logged in as root, but I can't seem to be able to do that.03:52
msh_or does anyone have a logitech quickcam webcam running?03:52
socommgeppy|away: Yeah I got port fowarding on 80, still no luck.03:52
geppy|awaysocomm:  Odd.03:52
Chiara`Does anyone know if the video card drivers for linux provided on NVidia's website can be installed with ubuntu?03:52
msh_rjgrange: there is no root user03:52
msh_use sudo03:52
geppy|awayChiara`:  Don't.03:52
rempresentrandabis: your desktop is nice03:53
geppy|awayChiara`:  There are ubuntu packages for the nvidia driver.03:53
Chiara`geppy: bad idea, huh?03:53
msh_http://datakill.us/screen03:53
geppy|awayChiara`:  Yeah.03:53
geppy|awayIs there an infobot in here?03:53
Chiara`geppy: k, I'll look for 'em.  Thanks.03:53
rjgrangeran sudo synaptic, but it would not find the package.  Also, set the root passwd, but still nothing03:53
eyequeueEvolutionR:  did you list all of the dependent pacakge names in your purge?03:53
randabisrempresent, thanks :)03:53
EvolutionRI'm using Gnome....is there any burning software that I can use?03:53
geppy|awayChiara`:  try: apt-cache search nvidia03:53
geppy|awayEvolutionR:  Nautilus?  K3B?03:54
msh_rjgrange: there is no root user in ubuntu03:54
socommAnyone got an idea as to what could be the culprit here?03:54
EvolutionReyequeue: I duno know, cant u help me to list out? I'm noob03:54
geppy|awaysocomm:  How does 127.0.0.1:80 work?03:54
rempresentthat datakill one is sweet too03:54
gamecatSomeone: I've got 2 CD drives, and only one of them is working for audio CD play.03:54
msh_dats mine03:54
eyequeueEvolutionR:  k03:54
rjgrangeyes, figured that, so how do I get synaptic to work?03:54
msh_it works fine03:54
gamecatany hints on what to change?03:54
geppy|awaygamecat:  Do they both have their audio cables plugged in?03:54
socommgeppy|away: Yes.03:54
msh_you just have to enable all the repositories03:54
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EvolutionRgeppy|away: k3b is for Kde I'm afraid? I use gnome,  no kde here....can install k3b?03:55
gamecatI feel like they don't, but that shouldn't matter if digital playback is enabled.03:55
socommlocalhost, 127.0.0.1 all work.03:55
geppy|awaysocomm: If that works, then it's the port-forwarding that's the problem.03:55
gamecatI can't even add tracks to xmms for the second one.03:55
randabisEvolutionR, Yes, k3b will generally work okay in GNOME03:55
EvolutionReyequeue: Thanks for ur effort03:55
geppy|awayEvolutionR:  K3B works fine on GNOME.  It requires kde-libs, but it won't hurt you.  =)03:55
EvolutionROkie..guys I go for k3b03:55
randabisI think Gnomebaker would be a good alternative to k3b though as well03:55
msh_does anyone use a logitech quickcam with ubuntu?03:55
socommgeppy|away: That's what I figured, but I'm forwarding on the right NIC and all.03:55
socomm:^/03:55
robertjAnd grave digger03:55
geppy|awaysocomm:  =/03:55
gamecatWhat I need is some insight into how XMMS is reading the CD tracks from the /cdrom directory.03:56
socommhttp://69.105.23.16103:56
geppy|awaysocomm:  It's the port-forwarding that's broken, though, because Apache is obviously working.03:56
EvolutionRGnomebaker???????????? which one is better k3b or gnomebaker? this is my first time using burning software on Linux...previously on windows Nero Burning Rom only!03:56
Croccifixioi think im going for vsfptd03:56
gamecatI tried creating a chain of links similar to the one that leads to /cdrom, but there's something in there I'm not comprehending.03:56
geppy|awayEvolutionR:  K3B03:56
socommgeppy|away: Yeah I guess.03:56
eyequeueEvolutionR:  sudo dpkg --purge linux-image-2.6.8.1-3-386 linux-restricted-modules-2.6.8.1-3-386 linux-image-2.6-386  linux-restricted-modules-2.6-38603:56
EvolutionROKiE!03:56
eyequeueEvolutionR:  i think i got them all :)03:56
EvolutionReyequeue: I try03:57
socommJust wondering, maybe Ubuntu used something funky.03:57
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msh_does anyone use a logitech quickcam with ubuntu?03:57
geppy|awaysocomm:  No, Apache works fine for me on Ubuntu. =)03:57
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socommgeppy|away: Behind a router, by any chance?03:57
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EvolutionReyequeue: dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove linux-image-2.6-386 which isn't installed. <--- except this none exits?"All of them being remove"03:58
raydoggdoes anyone else see smb4k in their repos?03:59
raydoggI cannot find it, i added universe03:59
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liquidboyhow do i gain perminant root privelages?03:59
eyequeueEvolutionR:  is it gone now? ls /boot04:00
liquidboyi read somewhere that you type something into the terminal04:00
gamecatdefine permanent.04:00
jbaliquidboy, sladen just beat me into submission, that that was a bad thing TM to do04:00
eyequeueliquidboy:  sudo -s, but be aware of security implications04:00
Xenguyliquidboy: it's answered in a FAQ AFAIK04:00
liquidboyok04:00
liquidboythanks04:00
rempresenthow do you get fluxbox to work04:01
liquidboydamn04:01
sladenliquidboy: sudo apt-get install   ...  etc (just type 'sudo' before anything that actually needs running as root)04:01
EvolutionRconfig-2.6.10-2-386  initrd.img-2.6.10-2-386  memtest86+.bin           vmlinuz-2.6.10-2-38604:01
EvolutionRgrub                 lost+found               System.map-2.6.10-2-38604:01
sladenjba: :)04:01
jbahehe04:02
liquidboyok, i installed need to transfer files fom my linux partition to a usb hd (it shows up, but i cant write to it) - im using the live cd  - cos windows xp (i instaleld it ) stuffed up grub04:02
liquidboyso i cant install anything04:02
msh_does anyone use a logitech quickcam with ubuntu?04:02
EvolutionReyequeue: is that clean? above04:02
EvolutionRI guess so04:02
eyequeueEvolutionR:  very good :)04:02
liquidboyso i need to know how to make the hard drive writable04:02
EvolutionRthanks 100.000,000 tu u :P04:02
CroccifixioXenguy you know how to setup a cs server on ubuntu? i found a tutorial on how to set it up, but how to add mods?04:03
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eyequeueEvolutionR:  you're learning things :)04:03
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XenguyCroccifixio: "cs server" ?04:03
CroccifixioXenguy also, could you help me setup cs-ftpd correctly and securly?04:04
CroccifixioXenguy counter-strike04:04
liquidboywhen i typed in "sudo -s" it didnt ask me for a password...04:04
XenguyCroccifixio: nope, and no :-)04:04
gamecatwere you already sudo'd?04:04
Croccifixioliquidboy if you typed it oce before in the same window its normal04:04
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CroccifixioXenguy</304:04
gamecatwhat Croc said.04:04
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mebaran151hey04:04
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liquidboyno, the first time i typed it, it didnt ask for one04:04
eyequeueliquidboy:  if you typed it in the past few minutes, that's normal04:04
mebaran151anybody own the DI524 wireless router04:04
michael_I have ubuntu, how do I open debian (.deb) files??04:04
XenguyCroccifixio: for vsftpd, be aware that it does allow use of SSL for extra security if yer interested04:05
EvolutionReyequeue: yeah...I'm learning alot of linux especially from Ubuntu "Hoary" rather than other distro.04:05
gamecatif you typed "sudo", they mean.04:05
gamecat(--> liquid)04:05
LinkMasterSabHey, if I "make install" something, then the only way to uninstall it is manually, right?04:05
XenguyCroccifixio: have fun04:05
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mebaran151my DI524 router04:05
liquidboygamect, i ment that the very first timei typed 'sudo' (which was the command "sudo -s") it didnt ask me for a password04:05
mebaran151doesnt seem to want to dhcp anything on my linux box04:06
michael_I have ubuntu, how do I open debian (.deb) files??04:06
linux-rulzhttp://www.pastebin.com/236033  Does anyone know why Kmix is doing this?04:06
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linux-rulzmichael_: what debs did u download?04:06
gamecatyou mean you haven't done any sudo commands in that terminal in the last several minutes before sudo -s?04:06
XenguyCroccifixio: seriously, I've never done either (not trying to be a prick or anything :-)04:06
michael_umm, apps04:06
michael_I don't know what they are04:06
CroccifixioXenguy whatever that means, i just want to setup a secure server, no annoynous, quite secure and in no way the logged in people can get root access, thats all i need :)04:06
michael_as long as they work04:06
EvolutionReyequeue: just now if compared them "dpkg --purge linux-image-2.6.8.1-3-386 linux-restricted-modules-2.6.8.1-3-386 linux-image-2.6-386"  "dpkg --purge linux-image-2.6.8.1-3-386 linux-restricted-modules-2.6.8.1-3-386 linux-image-2.6-386  "linux-restricted-modules-2.6-386"<- except not much diffrent here04:06
gamecatit's possible, then, that your entry in the sudoers file is set to let you sudo w/out password confirmation.04:06
LinkMasterSabmichael_: You want to install them?04:06
gamecatnot sure how that would have been set that way tho.04:07
michael_yes04:07
CroccifixioXenguy as well as login preferences , such as that login can dl only such can upl n dl04:07
msh_does anyone use a logitech quickcam with ubuntu?04:07
mebaran151anyboyd know much about wireless routers04:07
CroccifixioXenguy is that possible? is it easy to setup ?04:07
mebaran151my modem always seems to fail04:07
liquidboywell, i am on the live cd...04:07
LinkMasterSabdpkg -i blah.deb04:07
mebaran151as soon as my comp tries to DHCP through the router04:07
gamecatOH.04:07
mebaran151it is most amazing04:07
gamecatOK, that does it then.04:07
XenguyCroccifixio: like I said, I haven't done either, so you need to read, research, etc.  Could be fun :-)04:07
mebaran151I havent the slightest idea why it would work that way04:07
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gamecatLiveCDs assume you're already king of the machine.04:07
gamecatKnoppix, etc, all let you go root without shaking you down first.04:07
mebaran151but the modem fails to post and resets itself when it tries to get a dhcp from the network address04:08
michael_Hello?04:08
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gamecatI'd forgotten you were using the liveCD.04:08
liquidboyoh04:08
mebaran151and also whenever I try to do the configuration through 192.168.0.104:08
CroccifixioXenguy no , it cant be fun :P i need to save time04:08
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LinkMasterSabmichael_: dpkg -i blah.deb04:08
mebaran151it says permssion denied04:08
michael_in terminal?04:08
liquidboygamecat, the usb hard drive only has write permission for root, if im root, how come i dont have write permission?04:08
XenguyCroccifixio: FTP is inherently insecure, so it is a risky service to run from the get-go (e.g. FTP passes passwords in the clear, but maybe you are already aware of these things)04:08
LinkMasterSabYes04:08
mebaran151are there any more linux friendly routers?04:08
LinkMasterSabMight have to sudo it04:08
CroccifixioBe Right Back take shower04:08
michael_kk04:08
LinkMasterSabProbably have to, I don't remember04:08
gamecathmm hmm hmm.04:09
gamecatI think it's a matter of semantics, liquid.04:09
LinkMasterSabSo anyways, if I "make install", how would I go about removing it?04:09
gamecatmaybe if you tried su -04:09
boratokay it looks like i semi installed a file from a .deb ( i got an error) so i tried to instal an older version and now it dpkg is saying that it can't stop the procsses so i'm sorta in this limbo stage what can i do?04:09
gamecatthen it would consider you the "real" root04:09
gamecatinstead of user that has "gone" root.04:09
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liquidboybugger, authentication failure04:10
michael_status database is locked by another process??04:10
liquidboyi need to find a way to  boot into my linux partition but windows stuffed up grub :(04:10
LinkMasterSabmichael_: You have Synaptic open?04:10
gamecatyeah, yeah. Hmm.04:10
liquidboyis there any way to boot into linux using either the install cd or the live cd?04:10
liquidboyor reinstall grub from the live cd / install cd?04:10
michael_Yes04:10
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LinkMasterSabThat'd be it. Close it.04:11
gamecatYou might consider looking at the HOWTOs on how to create a GRUB boot disk.04:11
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liquidboygamecat: looking...04:11
mebaran151how can you create a grub disk04:11
mebaran151without grub04:11
mebaran151I always wondered that04:11
IceGuest_5hi04:11
mebaran151most of these howtos tell you04:11
gamecatyou should have access to grub itself on the livecd....?04:11
EvolutionReyequeue: the remove command --purge kernel versions was so effectively, I don't even have to delete the lines 2.6.8.1..it was auto deleted! Very Smart! :)04:11
gamecatI dunno, I've never done this.04:11
mebaran151to open the grub shell04:11
tensorhello, is there a target release date for hoary?04:11
liquidboysurely you can use the live cd as a bootdisk tho?04:11
gamecatoh, huh.04:11
gamecatyou'd think so. *shrug.*04:12
gamecathmm.04:12
eyequeueEvolutionR:  thank the packagers of that linux-image package :)04:12
gamecatyou have your normal ubuntu install's /. mounted, right?04:12
gamecatr/w priv?04:12
gamecatactually... r/w/x priv?04:12
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liquidboygamecat, no sure what you mean... i can access my linuxpartition and write to it, if thats what you mean...04:13
gamecatokay, that's cool.04:13
gamecatwhat I meant by r/w/x... can you run programs from it?04:13
liquidboyum, ill try then04:13
Dddavehey, i got a problem with printers: trying to access a network printer (on my windows machine) thru ubuntu, but it wont print! :(04:13
gamecatIf you can, then you ought to have some hope here of getting this done tonight.04:13
gamecattake a look around for faqs about installing GRUB from scratch.04:14
gamecatthey OUGHT to tell you how to, once grub is configured right (which I suspect it still is?)...04:14
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mebaran151any of you guys have any ideas on my router problems04:14
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gamecat... execute some script or something that'll overwrite your master boot record and tell it to boot grub instead of winxp.04:14
lmurillocan a printer be shared??04:15
lmurilloI've been trying to do so for two days now and have not been able04:15
Dddaveme too!04:15
Dddaveokay04:15
liquidboygamecat, just answered the phone reading your stuff now... :P04:18
lmurilloI have tried adding it through samba and WinXP tells me that I don't have enough credentials. I want to use the method I was using before I had Ubuntu installed, that was using the printer directly through CUPS and not through samba, i.e. http://192.168.0.1:631/printers/printer04:18
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michael_where do I get these packages:   Package kdelibs4 is not installed.04:19
michael_ kasteroids depends on libkdegames1 (>= 4:3.1.0); however:04:19
michael_  Package libkdegames1 is not installed.04:19
liquidboygamecat, not sure how to make a script04:19
liquidboyor anything04:19
Surphazeanyone on hoary finding falconseye package freezing after character creation?04:19
gamecatwell, neither do I. My point is, there should be some documentation somewhere on how to overwrite your MBR with an existing GRUB configuration.04:19
gamecathere, I'll do a quick google on it.04:19
liquidboygamecat, i can execute programmes from the hard drive. :)04:20
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randabiscat /dev/urandom >> /dev/dsp04:20
randabislol04:20
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EvolutionReyequeue: yesterday I installed the apt-get install MPlayer 1.0pre6 k6 version...open up the Mplayer Apps > Sound & Video > Mplayer ...an error dialog box came out "New_FACE failed. Maybe the font path is wrong. Please supply the text font file (~/.mplayer/subfont.ttf).04:20
liquidboygamecat, so the 'make grub boot floppy' wont work, cos gruib's not installed?04:21
boratokay it looks like i semi installed a file from a .deb ( i got an error) so i tried to instal an older version and now it dpkg is saying that it can't stop the procsses so i'm sorta in this limbo stage what can i do?04:21
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eyequeueEvolutionR:  is there some pacakge like mplayer-fonts?04:21
eclipseanyone knows if there's a driver for nokia 6230 phone for linux?04:22
gamecatliquidboy : dag, man, I dunno! But here, check this out: http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-7.2-Manual/ref-guide/ch-grub.html04:22
gamecat(scroll down to the very bottom.)04:22
EvolutionReyequeue: I just apt-get Mplayer not fonts...I try to look for it04:22
eyequeuek04:23
gamecatNote that I have NEVER DONE THIS. so, at your own risk.04:23
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liquidboywell, ive got nothing to loose04:23
liquidboytheese files are *quite* important...04:23
gamecatbut it looks like you'll want to open a terminal, go root, surf to your original / 's /sbin04:23
liquidboybut thats my silly fault for not backing upt o external hd in the first plcae04:23
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gamecatrun .grub-install hda1 (I'm assuming that's your main HD?)04:24
jeldgood day everyone04:24
gamecatand hopefully that'll do it... but before you do anything.04:24
gamecatdid you already have winXP installed?04:24
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gamecatand then you re-installed it?04:24
jeldcan anyone help me with my sudoers file?04:24
liquidboydamn, doesnt work04:25
jeldI am trying to setup a command (firestarter firewall) to start automatically. I added a line to my sudoers with NOPASSWD: flag, but now when I open a terminal I can do sudo whatever and never get asked for a password04:25
Croccifixioback04:25
liquidboypermission denied04:25
CroccifixioNo04:26
Croccifixioim allowed to be back04:26
gamecatsuck. Okay, researching, please hold.04:26
jeldCroccifixio, :)04:26
Croccifixioand anyways you aren the one il ask the persmission to04:26
Croccifixiowell time to setup the cs server04:26
CroccifixioAway From Keyboard04:26
Croccifixiouhh04:27
EvolutionReyequeue: u think this theme is kewl? which one is kewl? my gnome desktop Eg.My computer, trashbin,etc..icons so boring! :)http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=19775&PHPSESSID=6633c04dd9e8f23f2483a1fe3748b95504:27
Croccifixioquick question04:27
Croccifixiohow do i stay logged in, but quit x ?04:27
Croccifixioas in , i stay logged in in the user , but x is closed?04:27
HrdwrBoBCroccifixio: um.. what do you mean04:27
jeldCroccifixio, what do you mean stay logged in?04:27
HrdwrBoBCroccifixio: your X session *IS* your login04:28
HrdwrBoBif you kill X04:28
HrdwrBoByou cannot be 'logged in'04:28
Croccifixioi wanna stay in the command line interface04:28
Croccifixiowithout loading x04:28
jeldCroccifixio, login on a virtual tty and quit X04:28
Croccifixiohow would that be done?04:28
jeldCroccifixio, CTRL-ALT-F104:28
Croccifixioso X is closed?04:28
eyequeueCroccifixio:  you can run a cli irc client (like irssi) under screen, and then attach to that from your x session i guess04:28
Croccifixiocause i will be using that machine as server not desktop04:28
liquidboygamecat, ive just had an idea. ive got a live cd version of beosmax, i can boot into that and tranfer the files over that way...04:28
Croccifixioso i need to use the less ressources poss04:28
jeldCroccifixio, then login as user, then sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop04:28
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jeldCroccifixio, that will stop X04:29
Croccifixioi got two machines04:29
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Croccifixiothe one im on04:29
lmurillook, this is what my smb.conf looks like: http://lcmurillo.spymac.net/smb.conf04:29
Croccifixioand the one i am setting up04:29
liquidboyhey guyes, if gamecat wonders where ive beem, tell him im trying something and ill be back later if it doesnt work...04:29
gamecatI'm here.04:29
Croccifixiosso i go sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop?04:29
gamecatwhoops, shit.04:29
lmurilloI'm trying to be able to print from a WinXP box04:29
HrdwrBoBCroccifixio: the overhead of running X and not actively using it is close to sweet FA04:29
jeldcan anyone help with my sudo problem?04:29
CroccifixioFA being...?04:30
HrdwrBoBF all04:30
lmurilloI keep getting that I don't have enough credentials to install the printer :s04:30
eyequeueCroccifixio:  i do connect to another non-gui box, where i have irssi running under screen04:30
Croccifixiouh huh04:30
EvolutionRI've apt-get install k3b, but where is the Gui? which Category section located in order to run k3b?04:30
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duncanmhola04:30
Croccifixiothats what i wanna do, take out the gui , i mean keep it in, but not use it04:30
eyequeueCroccifixio:  if you run it on the non-gui box, you can connect from that gui box, if you like04:30
duncanmwho's the guy in charge of packaging Mono for Ubuntu?04:30
duncanmjdub: hey?04:30
Croccifixioi want to not use the gui04:30
EvolutionRI've found the k3b in Sound & video.04:31
eyequeueCroccifixio:  make it so that gdm doesn't start04:31
Croccifixiothat would be i go into grub04:32
EvolutionRBut the K3b start with the error dialog box saying "Unable to find CDRAO executable"04:32
Croccifixioand add a comand line?04:32
Croccifixiowhat would the command line be?04:32
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nyktovusneed help using grip please04:32
eyequeueCroccifixio:  example, rm /etc/rc2.d/S99gdm04:32
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jeldcan anyone help me configure my sudoers?04:33
EvolutionRBut the K3b start with the error dialog box saying "Unable to find cdrdao executable"04:33
Croccifixiobut that would totally remove it04:33
Croccifixioi want to keep it04:33
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Croccifixiobut use it from time to time04:33
eyequeueCroccifixio:  i don't want you doing that until you understand that04:33
Croccifixioi wont dont worry04:33
deshantmjeld, edit /etc/sudoers04:33
Croccifixioeyequeue pm, il explain my situation04:33
EvolutionRI'm installing the cdrdao!04:33
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anthem1Hey all... quick question.  I just installed ubuntu and like it, but I screwed up.  I typed my root password in the dark, and messed it up.  Both times.  Idententically.  Am I just screwed?  Do I need to reinstall?04:33
jelddeshantm, I have a particular problem, I am trying to add a program to start without a password04:33
jelddeshantm, after I added a line with NOPASSWD: I am now never prompted for password04:34
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jelddeshantm, for any command04:34
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deshantmjeld, wow that's kinda cool but assuming not what you want?04:34
rapala61can someone tell me how to patch my 2.6.10 kernel with the 2.6.11 patch on kernel.org04:35
jelddeshantm, the line reads myuser ALL=NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/firestarter04:35
EvolutionRI've tried to run k3bsetup2 run as root dialog box came out, asking me to enter my password...I've put my normal account password it wont get me in?04:35
deshantmjeld, what are you trying to do?04:35
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jelddeshantm, I only want firestarter not to ask for password04:35
deshantmjeld, oh i have never done that...04:36
jelddeshantm, I am not very familiar with sudo and the man page on sudoers is kinda confusing :)04:36
nyktovusi'm getting an error "invalid encoder executable" in grip.. anyone help?04:36
randabisEvolutionR, try it without any password04:37
EvolutionRrandabis: okie04:37
EvolutionRrandabis: without password wont let me in either....there's only one way "click ignore" then it let me go to the page!04:38
rapala61i need help to patch my 2.6.10 kernel with the 2.6.11 patch on kernel.org04:38
EvolutionRk3bsetup2 why they ask for root password, I've put rootpassword they wont let me in why??????????04:38
jbaEvolutionR, use your own password on sudo04:39
jbathere is no root password04:39
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EvolutionRjba: is my sudo password I'm putting is not letting me in?04:39
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jbaEvolutionR, use your logn password when sudo asks for root password04:39
EvolutionRis all my sudo = root password04:40
EvolutionRnot working for k3bsetup2 u try?04:40
LinkMasterSabBlah, I wish I could make modem-lights more useful04:40
LinkMasterSabBut uh, pon/poff have to be run under sudo04:40
EvolutionRrapala61: why u need to patch...something wrong with ur current kernel version?04:41
LinkMasterSabAnd I can't make it prompt me for my password04:41
LinkMasterSabIs there some way to make it give me a password prompt for sudo without it being in terminal?04:41
EvolutionRLinkMasterSab: Have u try rp-pppoe ?04:41
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LinkMasterSabEvolutionR, what's that?04:42
anthem1Can anybody tell me  if there's a way to fix my problem?  I evidently mistyped my password when I installed in the dark last night.  Do I have to uninstall?04:42
EvolutionRLInkMasterSab: is another PPPoE client to connect DSL (internet)04:42
LinkMasterSabEvolutionR, I'm on dialup04:42
HrdwrBoBLinkMasterSab: gksudo04:42
kayoEvolutionR: can you log in as your user?04:42
EvolutionRjba: try u run k3bsetup...and enter ur password will it let u go in? let me know!04:42
LinkMasterSabHrdwrBoB, thanks.04:42
EvolutionRkayo: wat u mean can I log in as user?04:43
jbaEvolutionR, not at my linux machine now dude, sorry, and i run gnome04:43
kayosoory was for anthem104:43
rapala61EvolutionR, not really .. i just wanna try it , but i dunno how to patch kernels "oops"04:43
LinkMasterSabThat's exactly what I needed.04:43
EvolutionRokie I also run on Gnome too :)04:43
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deshantmjeld, http://techweb.rfa.org/pipermail/portaudio/2002-February/000512.html04:44
EvolutionRLinkMasterSab: okie04:44
deshantmjeld, best link i have found so far04:44
LinkMasterSabAlso: is there some way to make a command run on startup? I want it to run the command to setserial my modem04:44
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nyktovusi'm getting an error "invalid encoder executable" in grip.. anyone help?04:45
jelddeshantm, let me try, but this sounds exactly as what I am doing04:45
deshantmjeld, this one too http://www.essenz.com/support/comp.unix.admin/Aug/27/110847.html04:45
jdubnyktovus: sounds like you've configured it to use an encoder that doesn't exist on your system; why grip instead of sound-juicer?04:45
deshantmjeld, good luck04:45
gamecatOkay. Who is going to be here for a while?04:45
EvolutionRjba: if I wanted to burn a vcd to cd I choose k3b > new data CD project will it work?????????????04:45
gamecatI need to LEAVE, but I've found what liquidboy was looking for.04:45
gamecatI need someone to pass it on.04:46
jbayeah so long as you keep the folder structure04:46
gamecatseriously, anyone who can pass on a URL and a few words?04:47
EvolutionRI wanted to ask ...I saw so many open source community in the irc channel helping each other out! How bout Microsoft windows like Winxp help channel on irc...is there any? I think open source is much friendlier :)04:47
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LinkMasterSabEvolutionR, there probably is, just unofficial04:47
BMP_....wow, that might be the biggest userlist I've ever seen, and I might be the biggest nerd for making that observation.04:48
jelddeshantm, got it, the sudo cache was tricking me04:48
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jelddeshantm, this is a bit strange though04:49
LinkMasterSabIs there anything that's equivalent to .chm for Linux?04:49
lmurilloI'm back, now I have added the printer to WinXp, but when I send something to print the printer goes into pause mode and if I try to resume it it will go back to pause, and it will only resume once the job has been cancelled :(04:49
EvolutionRoic....now since linux becoming more user friendlier in terms of hardware driver support, I seldom use my Windows XP sp2 running! Hate to patch all those windows updating thing...patch for holes all weekend! :P~04:49
BMP_Anyone in here played around with Ubuntu Live CD on a PowerPC system?04:49
BMP_I'm trying to talk it into mounting my HD so I can access all my files and fun things04:50
EvolutionRI leave my windows XP sp2 for the Multimedia stuff that can't be running at the moment maybe in future like eg. CD-ROM PC games titles...etc04:50
BMP_all I know is that mac OS X calls the partition /dev/disk0s5, but linux (which I'm not used to, it's far away from my bsd/osx home) has waaay different names for hd partitons.04:50
timothyarnold85does anyone here know if I can get m4a support (the format itunes rips into) for ubuntu?04:51
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smoEvolutionR: As far as I can tell, you need to go to System Tools -> Root Terminal, and run k3b from there (and not from sudo/gksu) (atleast for long enough to get k3bsetup out the way.  (as per a very bad translation of https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/ItalianDocumentationHowToInstallK3b/view?searchterm=k3b )04:51
gamecatOne more time... anyone willing to pass on some info?04:51
jelddeshantm, try this for fun: 1. open a new gnome terminal 2. sudo visudo <enter password> 3. close the terminal 4. open a new one and try the command again. It will not ask you for a password. I know that sudo remembers authentication info for some time, but I kinda figured that if I close the terminal it would forget that info. Looks that it goes by terminal device to differentiate between sessions04:51
lmurilloanyone willing to help me get the printer working :(04:51
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randabisgamecat maybe...depends on the info and where I need to pass it too04:51
gamecatAwesome randabis, thanks.04:52
BMP_try that hymn program people were pushing around04:52
jelddeshantm, thanx04:52
EvolutionRI heard the Mac Mini was lauched few days ago, if not mistaken, have anyone else running mini mac???? how was it? I think mini mac was the affordable mac package in my country (Malaysia) at the moment!04:52
gamecatliquidboy, when he comes back, needs info involving GRUB.04:52
BMP_that supposedly can make it play a little nicer04:52
gamecatwhat he wants is right here: http://www.desktop-linux.net/grub.htm04:52
randabisokay04:52
randabisI can do that04:52
gamecatThe reason what he was trying to do earlier didn't work is that he was trying to install to a partition, i.e. hda1.04:52
BMP_mini mac is definetley the most affordable mac in any country at the moment. I've played with one in the store, they're very nice04:52
lmurilloI have done exactly what the wiki faq says and I still get the same error :(04:53
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randabisI wouldn't run a Mac Mini with less than 512MB ram though04:53
gamecathe couldn't do that, because there was some sort of sanity check keeping him from killing his winxp bootloader.04:53
EvolutionRsmo: meaning have to run as root ....okie mean it's not necessary for me to run the k3bsetup2 at the moment! just wanna burn some vcds to cd04:53
randabishah04:53
BMP_OS X felt nice and snappy on it. Final Cut Pro and such kinda choked04:53
gamecatAnyway, what he wants is on the page.04:53
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gamecattell him to use the instructions to build a grub boot disk from windows.04:53
BMP_and yes, bump the ram on any mac, they're very hungry for ti04:53
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BMP_*it04:53
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gamecatand then follow the instructions to boot into linux, and THEN run grub-install to overwrite the master boot record.04:54
randabisWell the problem with 256MB RAM on a mac mini is there will be too much disk swapping going on04:54
gamecatAll else fails: http://www.desktop-linux.net/grub.htm has everything he needs.04:54
gamecatThanks so much!04:54
randabisok04:54
randabisnp04:54
EvolutionRBMP: except for the limited RAM for the Mac Mini, can add more RAM to it any more slots?04:54
gamecat/exit ciao amigos04:54
randabisthe 512MB upgrade for the mac mini is only 70 dollars04:54
BMP_there's only that one slot in there, you have to take the original ram out to put more in =/04:54
smoAs I understand it, there's a single slot, which may take one of 256/512/1024 (at your option/expense)04:54
randabisyes04:55
BMP_don't buy ram from apple though, shop around, they charge far too much for it04:55
randabis70 dollars for 512MB is pretty competitive I think...I believe it's PC3200 even04:55
EvolutionRrandabis: I always admire Mac design their so kewl, but never get to experience the Mac computer yet like G4 G5 Mac Mini04:55
BMP_this computer I'm on is about 300 megs of ram (an older iBook) it has to go to the disk a lot04:55
xskoulaxfrom what i was reading BMP_ the 512 upgrade is well priced04:55
BMP_did they drop it? it used to be a fortune04:55
xskoulaxbut yea in general buying ram from apple is a mistake04:55
randabisBMP yes they did price cuts on both the 512MB and 1024MB upgrades04:56
EvolutionRBMP_: in my country (malaysia) I dont think any other shops selling Mac RAMs around, only the Mac apple shops selling...04:56
deshantmjeld, cool glad you got it i will try what you said04:56
xskoulaxEvolutionR, shop online04:56
EvolutionRxkoulax: good idea!04:56
EvolutionRxskoulax: good idea!04:57
randabisEvolutionR, Yes, they are very asthetically pleasing, and MacOSX is a great OS04:57
EvolutionR<smo> that was a good idea for the single slot, which may take one of 256/512/1024 (at your option/expense)04:57
randabisI don't have one, but if I were to get one, I'd definitely get a mac mini with 512MB, plus a superdrive04:57
BMP_I'm a big fan of it myself. OS 9 and the ones before were....okay. Despite what mac fans say, I think windows had caught up or surpassed it. OS X was a smart move.04:58
EvolutionRMac computer system are always good at Multimedia Stuff like DVD movie editing....etc so add 1 gZ of RAM should be good enuf/ minimum RaM IMHO04:58
randabisI hated OS9 personally :p04:58
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xskoulaxthe ibook is a better value than the mac mini04:59
randabisEvolutionR, Yeah, but you'd start getting limited by the CPU in the Mac Mini04:59
xskoulaxoverall04:59
EvolutionRAnyone using Mac Mini with Ubuntu or Linux Distros at the moment?04:59
BMP_my powerbook is a couple of years old and I bumped it to 1 gig of ram. It runs final cut pro and all the pro apps without a hitch. It's processor is similar to the mac mini's as well04:59
randabisxskoulax, Yeah, I agree...the new powerbooks are pretty affordable too (they just released faster, cheaper ones)04:59
EvolutionRrandabis: what's the specs of the CPU ?05:00
BMP_I've used the powerbook and iBook with ubuntu liveCD going. no hitches. Everything worked.05:00
xskoulaxi really want iMac 20" but that will have to wait a while yet, i need to upgrade my gaming box first05:00
xskoulaxyea noticed that today05:00
xskoulaxmy dad has powerbook and got my brother ibook for xmas05:00
xskoulaxboth really nice machines05:00
randabisEvolutionR, I believe the Mac Mini starts with a G4 1.25GHZ cpu05:00
EvolutionR<BMP_> my powerbook is a couple of years old and I bumped it to 1 gig of ram. It runs final cut pro and all the pro apps without a hitch. It's processor is similar to the mac mini's as well <---it means mac mini with 1 gig of RAM can run those mulitmedia stuff like final cut pro without a hitch? kewl!!!!!!!!!!05:01
xskoulaxrandabis thats correst05:01
randabisThe more expensive one has a 1.4 I think05:01
xskoulaxummm s correst/correct ;p05:01
randabishehe05:01
xskoulaxbiggest draw back on the mac mini imho is the laptop drive its using05:01
EvolutionRrandabis: can compare to Mac Mini with Athlon XP models????????????05:01
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BMP_EvolutionR: yep. It does just fine. now the Power Mac G5 is unbelievable with that kind of stuff, but the powerbook (and I bet the mini mac) will fare just fine.05:02
xskoulaxi wish they would have made the box bigger but thrown a sata drive in there05:02
randabisEvolutionR, They are different architectures and run different operating systems...kinda hard to compare05:02
xskoulaxor ide even05:02
EvolutionRokie05:02
BMP_Here's a question. I'd love to jump over to Ubuntu on the main computer in my house, which is a 500mhz Dell clunk running XP home (decent ram at least), the only problem is that it gets it's internet access through wifi, specifically a Linksys USB wifi adapter.05:02
shockmy powerbook g4 15" runs like a charm, too =)05:02
EvolutionRrandabis: okie :)05:02
BMP_if I were to ubuntu that up, would it play nice?05:02
shockjust wanted to mention that05:02
BMP_wow, lotsa mac fans in here =P05:02
randabisBMP_, Well, you'd have to check if the usb adapter is supported with NDISWRAPPER05:03
shock*g*05:03
shockI would be VERY carefull about anthing usb05:03
shock:/05:03
EvolutionRBMP: Mac computer systems design looks kewl especially their LCD monitors, mouse , keyboard WoW!!!!!!!!!!!05:03
randabisalso, it most likely will NOT run out of the box05:03
raydoggrandabis, do you have smb4k in your repository, I do not see it.05:03
shockjust had some bad experiences with usb gadgets @ my girlfriends computer....05:03
shock*sigh*05:04
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randabisso, you'll need to connect it to wired internet to grab some packages for it (or do some CD burning05:04
xskoulaxshock, you know if they have drivers for that stupid broadcom chip in the airport extream yet?05:04
EvolutionRI've heard the Mac thing have their wifi something ????05:04
BMP_it might end up being okay though. there is talk of our house moving the wireless base station because of signal issues, and if we did, that'd put that computer within ethernet cable range of the base.05:04
shockthey dont05:04
shock:/05:04
xskoulaxthought that was the case05:04
randabisraydogg, I'll look05:04
raydoggthanks05:04
shockbut at least suspends working nowadays05:04
shock:)05:04
raydoggI got everything else working :-)05:04
raydoggJust not that05:04
BMP_Mac's Wifi thing is no different from anyone else's. they just call it Airport, or AirMac in some parts of the world05:04
raydoggby everything, i mean everything i used to do in mandrake05:04
randabisraydogg, Yes, I have it in my repositories05:04
raydoggodd05:05
raydoggi wonder what i'm doing wrong05:05
randabisI run hoary though05:05
xskoulaxBMP_, i know, but broadcom dosn't provide drivers or technical info for other people to make them05:05
raydoggi'm running warty i think05:05
EvolutionRwow suddenly MAC fans here LOL @_005:05
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BMP_how well does Ubuntu act as a server? that computer running XP home might be in a good position for Apache now.05:05
shockjup... and never forget that wonderfull "firmware layer" in macs :/05:05
EvolutionRanybody running Linux on Mac Mini / G5?05:05
BMP_God knows Ubuntu will be better than _XP Home_ for hosting05:06
eyequeueshock:  how did you get suspend working?05:06
randabisndiswrapper will work with broadcom chipsets though :)05:06
randabisnot out of the box, but after you set it up05:06
shockinstalling a patched kernel05:06
eyequeueBMP_:  "fine" imo05:06
randabisBMP_ Ubuntu can make an excellent server05:06
shockwith a patch posted in debian-powerpc mailing list05:06
shock=)05:06
EvolutionRanybody running Linux on Mac Mini / G5?05:06
BMP_one thing that i was suprised and delighted with is that Ubuntu will sleep just like OS X when the lid of the Powerbook or iBook is shut. The light even pulses like OS X, and came right back up fine.05:06
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shockits only for the ATI card based books05:06
Lowryhi all05:07
shockhoi05:07
randabishello05:07
LowryJust unpacking my mac mini05:07
BMP_(I had a long time to play with it, I had it in the drive of my Powerbook on a car trip. I have to say, I like Ubuntu a lot, and am considering setting aside a chunk of time to talk my powerbook into dual booting it and OSX)05:07
EvolutionRdo the Mac Mini support PCI-express?????????????????????05:07
BMP_oooooooooo05:07
LowryWhere on the hd does Ubuntu ppc like to be installed?05:07
BMP_mac mini, gimme05:07
shocki do not know evol05:07
EvolutionRLowry: that's was kewl!!!!!!!!!!!!!!105:07
Lowry1st partition?05:07
LowryAre there any rules?05:08
shocker.... doesnt matter what partition05:08
shock*g*05:08
LowryGreat05:08
LowryNot like mklinux ect05:08
xskoulaxBMP_, the sleep is hardware feature05:08
LowryThanks05:08
xskoulaxso it should worrk05:08
xskoulax;p05:08
randabisYou'll have to resize your MacOS partition of course :)05:08
shocki got my ubuntu on /dev/hda405:08
LowryI will do a clean install05:08
shockrunning /home on hda605:08
EvolutionRMac mini what do they have a floopy drive, cdrom,...etc?05:08
randabisuh...Why?05:08
Lowryjust need to know how to set it up05:08
shockand whackos on hda305:08
shock*g*05:09
BMP_EvolutionR: there is a cd drive, but no floppy. An external floppy drive for one is very cheap though05:09
randabisWhy not run MacOSX, and ubuntu?05:09
LowrySo make a 10g Ubuntu patition at the end off the hd?05:09
shockLowry - remember to make a seperate /home partition05:09
shockthat allways pays off05:09
randabisyes definitely05:09
EvolutionRBMP_: mac mini have pci express technology ?05:09
shockand I was thinking about making one /usr/src *g*05:09
BMP_I say lowry should look at getting yaboot, so that way he can have both and pick which one he wants at startup05:09
Lowryagp port05:09
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BMP_EvolutionR: nope, they don't. =/05:10
BMP_no PCI.05:10
EvolutionRLowry: I heard Yellow Dog worked great on Mac systems!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :) is it IMHO05:10
eyequeuesharing /home always burns me05:10
Lowryhas a 4x agp with ati 920005:10
randabisMac Mini has the video integrated on the board I think...that's what I gathered from the pics of its guts05:10
Lowry32 mb ram05:10
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Lowryhope dri works05:10
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randabisdri should work for it05:10
EvolutionRa 4x agp ati 9200 how many ram?05:10
eyequeuebecause the various machines have different app versions, so the files in $HOME are of different formats or options than needed05:11
Lowryati card is soldered/part of the mac05:11
randabis32MB05:11
EvolutionR64 , 128?05:11
EvolutionRoic 32MB05:11
Lowry3205:11
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BMP_hmmm, I'm gonna go wander off to bed and play around with Ubuntu tomorrow.05:11
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BMP_hey wait, what is the minimum ram requirement of the Ubuntu live CD?05:11
EvolutionR32 only mine Nvidia Geforce 2 have 64 MB....05:11
terryAm I clueless or did Ubuntu not ask me to set a root password??05:11
EvolutionRehehheeh on PC05:11
EvolutionRof course05:11
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BMP_I may wanna run it on school computers tomorrow =)05:11
Vjazterry: it did not05:11
LowryWorked with 128 on my g3 powerbook05:11
eyequeueterry:  no root in ubuntu05:11
Vjazterry: in Ubuntu, you use sudo05:11
MedusaErodeusHello!05:12
eyequeueterry:  disabled for security05:12
terryerrrrr,hrmmmmm uhhhh errrrrr05:12
randabisEvolutionR, the Mac Mini isn't meant for graphically intensive applications05:12
Lowryhow low can ram go?05:12
Vjazterry: you know sudo?05:12
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terryI know sudo05:12
Vjazgood :-)05:12
terryjust gotta teach it to my fingers05:12
EvolutionRrandabis: ok! I heard Yellow Dog worked great on Mac systems!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :) is it IMH05:12
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eyequeueterry:  in that case, the first user set up is in the sudoers file, all/all05:12
EvolutionRO05:12
BMP_my school computers are CRAP though. 64mb at most, windows98 at best. meanwhile, therer is a school around here that is GIVING OUT new tablet Pc's to every studen05:12
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BMP_which is pretty awesome.05:13
randabiscorrection, there IS a root user in ubuntu05:13
randabishe's just disabled by default05:13
terryokay05:13
Lowrypc tablet - work with linux?05:13
BMP_my sister is going there, however I'm a senior, so transfering would just be a waste of time considering half the year is over.05:13
randabisEvolutionR, Never used Yellow Dog...dunno05:13
EvolutionRBMP_: are u a teacher....I suggest install linux on ur school much better, less crash than the win98 have05:13
BMP_I dunno, when I get my hands on my sister's I'll find out pretty quick05:13
LowryLike os x - root is 'there' ready to use05:13
LowryBut you are just another user05:13
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BMP_I usually boot DamnSmallLinux on the school computers. Knoppix won't load it's KDE, and I did not know of ubuntu at the time05:14
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EvolutionRBMP_: I've read somewhere Yellow Dog Linux worked quite well on Mac ... (linux format magazine UK)05:14
LowryTry Ubuntu ppc05:14
Lowry1 cd05:14
eyequeueBMP_:  there's also a lowmem option, in "expert" install mode05:14
LowryLots of working apps05:14
VjazDSL probably has the advantage of working on just about any low end hardware.05:14
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LowryThx ppl05:15
BMP_I have used Yellow Dog on my ibook05:15
BMP_I liked it but had some issues05:15
BMP_mainly it did not like my display05:15
LowryI hope there will be fan control support soon05:15
BMP_however, that's the computer's fault i think05:15
LowryHow hard was that with the g5's?05:15
BMP_as even OS X had problems with the display sometime05:15
EvolutionRI think we sould start a channel like #ubuntu&mac hahhahahaah LOL05:15
BMP_those issues didn't get fixed until OS X.305:16
eyequeue#ubuntu-ppc05:16
BMP_newer iBooks shouldn't have that problem mine did05:16
LowryWill the fan run full on with ubuntu as a safe mode?05:16
xskoulaxEvolutionR, #ubuntu-ppc perhaps05:16
BMP_#ubuntu-ppc would be a fine channel indeed. I'd go.05:16
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xskoulaxeyequeue, too fast for me05:16
Lowryie no software control05:16
EvolutionRxskoulax: great!05:16
BMP_hey, does Ubuntu have any sort of power management system in place?05:17
BMP_my powerbook has it's fan and processor going full blast the entire time05:17
xskoulaxEvolutionR, eyequeue beat me too it05:17
randabisBMP_, I believe it does APM and ACPI...Not sure on PPC05:17
BMP_which...yipes, cooks your privates REAL quick. OS X has a power management system to slow down the processor if it's not being used as much05:18
EvolutionRxskoulax: :)05:18
BMP_well if it does APM and ACPI, it's sure as heck turned off by default05:18
BMP_yeeouch, I coulda fried an egg05:18
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BMP_well kiddos, I'm wandering myselfs off to bed05:18
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BMP_long live ubuntu/macs/WhatHaveYou05:18
randabistake it easy BMP_05:19
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BicchiI am a mandrake user and would like to know the main focus of this distribution? I would like to install and OS with true 64 bit support and very stable too.05:25
dr_willishmm...05:25
dr_willisthe Ubuuntu guys seem to focus on security and a good gnome desktop.05:25
XenguyBicchi: tried ubuntulinux.org?  ;-)05:25
EvolutionRdoes anyone knows how to register a channel on freenode?05:26
dr_willisEvolutionR,  isent there a 'chanserv' bot ya talk to for that?05:26
Bicchiwhat if i want to use kde05:26
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dr_willisBicchi,  then you can install kde.05:26
XenguyBicchi: it's possible, but not the default desktop05:26
EvolutionRchanserv bout how??????????05:27
GuardiannEvolutionR ./cs register channame password escription of channel05:27
Guardiannwithout the .05:27
EvolutionRGuardiann thanks05:27
Bicchiwhen you mean posible, is is supported (kde)05:27
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dr_willisthis is linux - everything is possible05:28
XenguyBicchi: it's an installable option05:28
dr_willisand it pays to be your own support :P05:28
Bicchiwould it run as good as gnome.05:28
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dr_willisit runs as fine as kde runs on any other disrto05:28
Lowrylater ppl05:28
Lowrythx05:28
Xenguyof course kde won't run as well as gnome...05:28
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dr_willisyou may notice some trivial differances. but who knows. :P one way to find out05:28
Xenguy;-)05:28
liquidboyany idea how i can install grub from a live cd05:28
TongMasterbob2, ping05:29
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Bicchii am just looking for options to mandrake and so far i have considered gentoo, fedora, slackware. I saw this distro as a new comer to the arena and decided to find more about it.05:29
dr_willisgrub has its own command shell thing ya can use. but a read of the grub docs would be in order.05:29
dr_willisBicchi,  SUSE is very well done also.05:29
dr_willisit all depends on your needs really05:29
XenguyBicchi: newcomer yes, but remember it is based on Debian, which is way elderly/venerable05:30
Bicchimy main objective is to take advantage of my AMD64 machine and it seems that mandrake is not at its best.05:30
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dr_willisBicchi,  the amd64 support of all distors was lacking a few mo ago.. its getting better every month. :P05:31
randabisliquidboy http://www.desktop-linux.net/grub.html05:31
XenguyBicchi: someone here must know about Ubu and 64 (I really don't know about that issue)05:31
liquidboyrandabis, looking...05:32
dr_willisi had good luck with suse's 64bit. less with mandrakes.05:32
dr_willisbut that was a few months ago05:32
Bicchii mean i know that a lot of programs need to be recompiled to the 64bit instructions plus the that supports it.05:33
randabisUbuntu's 64bit is good as well so I've heard05:33
liquidboyrandabis, 404 not found :(05:33
dr_willisnot tried Ubuntu's 64 bit version yet.05:33
randabisliquidboy, probably my fault...one sec05:33
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liquidboyrandabis, its grub.htm, not html :P05:34
randabisah05:34
randabis:)05:34
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liquidboywill i be able to do this while on a live cd?05:34
Bicchii read that this distro is updated every 6 months. is that true.05:34
raydoggwhat is the package name for the samba and ssh servers for ubuntu?05:34
eyequeueBicchi:  yes05:34
JDahlI installed apache2 and libapache2-mod-php4 and restarted apache2, but my browser doesnt know what to do with .php scripts. Anyone got a helpful hint?05:34
eyequeueBicchi:  release every 6m, daily development if you choose to run the devel branch05:34
randabisliquidboy, I don't see why not05:34
eyequeueraydogg:  ssh-server05:34
eyequeueraydogg:  and i don't do the other05:35
raydoggk05:35
raydoggthx05:35
Bicchidoes ubuntu have some kind of updating system (like urpmi in mandrake.)05:35
dr_willisBicchi,  its a debian variant - and thus uses the apt-get type system05:35
eyequeueBicchi:  yes, synaptic is the gui app for it05:35
dr_williswell sort of a varient. :p05:35
aardvarkBicchi: debian based so uses apt05:35
randabisraydogg, samba, samba-common, and smbfs are needed for samba05:35
liquidboyrandabis, i cant get root privelages while using the live cd, ...05:35
Bicchidoes if supports rpm packages aswell?05:35
dr_willis"based" yea thats a good term.05:36
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aardvarkyes05:36
dr_willisBicchi,  proberly anythiong you find in rpm format ya can find for apt format also.05:36
aardvarkbased I mean05:36
randabisliquidboy, hmm...there's a guide on www.ubuntuguide.org also that might be of some usage05:36
randabisI was just relaying info that gamecat told me to give you05:37
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Bicchiwell, thanks for all the help. i came to the forum with 10 question, left with 20 answers. ;-)05:37
liquidboyrandabis, cant find it05:38
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JDahloops... syntax error in my .php test script :S05:39
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liquidboyor can i find a way of changing the permissions of the usb hard drive?that would also work05:40
randabisliquidboy, I think its in the section on windows05:40
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randabisyou probably have to chroot into the drive not sure...05:40
liquidboyrandabis, what does that involve?05:41
randabismight be better to make a grub boot disk05:41
liquidboyrandabis, dont i need to be root for that?05:41
stuNNeddang, there is no ubuntu xmms skin? :-|05:41
randabisdunno..not experienced with liveCDs...sudo might work05:42
liquidboyk05:42
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syn-ackHey everyone.05:45
liquidboyrandabis, sudo looks like its working05:46
liquidboy sudo  mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy05:46
liquidboymount: mount point /media/floppy does not exist05:46
liquidboymaybe its different cos im running from the cd05:46
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raydoggmmm, there is no "service" so how do you restart stuff like ssh and samba ?05:47
shockn8 all05:47
randabisgenerally it would be05:47
dr_willis- /etc/init.d/sshd restart05:47
randabis/etc/init.d/sshd restart05:47
randabis/etc/init.d/samba restart (i think)05:48
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dr_willis'service' is like a script/command some other disrtos use that does that. :P05:48
codehello?05:48
dr_willisi think. lol05:48
liquidboyrandabis, the floppy isnt turning up05:48
raydoggcool05:48
raydoggthat worked05:48
raydoggthanks05:48
liquidboyit doesnt even know its there05:48
dr_willisHello Code05:48
raydoggI think i will be able to get rid of mandrake all together :-)05:48
randabisdunno05:48
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codehows it goin?05:49
dr_willisraydogg,  depends on your needs. Mandrake is very well done in many ways.05:49
raydoggnot really, its very buggy05:49
raydogg10.1 is anyway05:49
raydogg10.0 was fine05:49
dr_willissome would say any odd# release is always buggy :P05:49
dr_willislol05:49
raydoggand those type of problems always happen05:49
raydoggi'm tired of it05:49
codecan anyone tell me how to d/l ymessenger?05:49
dr_willisyou can get the official one from yahoo.com05:50
codeit says i have to log in as root05:50
codehow do i do that?05:50
dr_willissudo whatevercommandyawanttoruin05:50
dr_willisiis the common way the ubuntu docs mention.05:50
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liquidboycreate directory `/floppy/boot/grub': No such file or directory05:51
codehuh?05:51
liquidboywhats with that?05:51
liquidboyof course theres no such file or directory, thats why im making it!05:51
dr_willissudo CommandYouWantToRunAsRoot05:52
dr_willisfrom a shell.05:52
dr_willissudo apt-get install xpilot05:52
dr_willisfor example05:52
aardvarksudo rm -rf *05:52
LinkMasterSabHey guys, say I wanted to apply a command to a file tree05:53
LinkMasterSabWhat would I do?05:53
codewho's sudo?05:53
dr_willistry 'man sudo'05:53
Xenguyoh jesus05:53
dr_willissuper user do - :P05:53
codewtf?05:53
LinkMasterSabsudo is a man who lives on top of a mountain05:54
LinkMasterSabNow, someone help me ;o05:54
XenguyLinkMasterSab: what are you trying to do?05:54
dr_williswtf wtf? time to  do some reading I think.05:54
aardvarkguys come on use the man pages05:54
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codeim confused05:54
LinkMasterSabI want to chmod all the files in a folder, recursing subfolders as well05:55
dr_willis'sudo' is a COMMAND you type05:55
Xenguyaardvark: no kidding -- "just give me the answer - I don't want to learn or think for myself"05:55
dr_willisLinkMasterSab,  thers that -r or -R option I think for that.05:55
LinkMasterSabOh, alright.05:55
XenguyLinkMasterSab: which you would find if you took the time to read 'man chmod'05:55
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dr_willisheh05:55
dr_willis-r is common on a lot of the shell commands05:56
eyequeueLinkMasterSab:  man chmod, the -R switch is what you'll find you want05:56
dr_willisor is it -R05:56
dr_willisi forgety. :P05:56
aardvarkby using the MAN pages u will learn alot more05:56
Xenguy-R05:56
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Xenguyin this case05:56
eyequeueLinkMasterSab: sudo chmod -R 000 / (don't really do that!)05:56
dr_willislol05:57
LinkMasterSabHaha, evil.05:57
dr_willis100 commands to NOT run under linux.05:57
dr_willis:P05:57
Xenguyheh05:57
eyequeueLinkMasterSab: but man pages protect you from blindly following bad advice given in irc05:57
dr_willisHmm - that sounds like a good name/idea for a web site.05:57
dr_williswww.donttypethis.com05:57
dr_willis:P05:57
chibifslike sudo rm -rf /? :D05:58
XenguyLinkMasterSab: yeah, think of us as Evil Twins :P05:58
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dr_willisThe Evil Olsen Twins!05:59
LinkMasterSabso "sudo chmod -R aw+ ~/projects/wrath" will give write permissions to all files recursively in ~/projects/wrath?05:59
eyequeuea+w05:59
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LinkMasterSabOkay.05:59
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XenguyLinkMasterSab: there ya go06:00
tritiumWhat is project Wrath?06:00
eyequeuetritium:  something we call all write to now, heh06:00
tritiumheh06:00
LinkMasterSabA MUD project my friend is running.06:00
tritiumLinkMasterSab, I'm glad it's not an evil plot or anything like that...06:01
LinkMasterSabHehe.06:01
eyequeuetritium:  you've been aiding and abetting him, lol06:01
tritiumheh06:01
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aardvarkping06:02
LinkMasterSabNow I shall destroy Linux from the interweb06:02
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stoicheiaI just completed the installation of Ubuntu Hoary for PowerPC on a PowerBook G4 Titanium and cannot change the screen resolution from the default 640X480 no other options are available in the dialog box.06:03
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tritiumstoicheia, ATI Rage 128?06:04
stoicheiatritium - actually ATI Rage M6 with 16MB of VRAM06:05
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tritiumstoicheia, you probably don't have proper HorizSync and VertRefresh values in /etc/X11/xorg.conf06:07
tritiumstoicheia, what does "sudo ddcprobe" report?06:08
tritiumyou may not need to use sudo for that06:09
Xirdnehhi there...06:09
eyequeue$ ddcprobe06:09
eyequeueopen /dev/mem: Permission denied06:09
stoicheiatritium - boot up now, just a sec06:09
Xirdnehim new at this, and im stuck in the partition part in the instalation of ubuntu, can anyone help me?06:09
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eyequeueXirdneh:  stuck in what way?06:10
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Xirdnehi have already made the partitions with partition magic, nad i left a 6.3 GB space forubuntu, but now the partition that the installer have doesnt let me do anything with that space06:10
Xirdnehit just show me the dirrections of free spaceit has06:10
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Xirdnehany ideas?06:13
eyequeueXirdneh:  when you press enter on that 6.3 partition, do you get some options?06:13
stoicheiatritium - have to check back LTR reboot just failed THX06:13
Xirdnehjust one, SHOW SECTOR INFORMATION06:13
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eyequeueXirdneh:  there may be a "do not use" that you'll want to toggle first06:14
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Xirdnehdo i need to give that partition a specific format?06:14
Xirdnehdo not use?, dont get it06:14
eyequeueXirdneh:  is this warty?06:14
Xirdnehyoup06:14
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eyequeueXirdneh:  typically, formatting as ext3 is common these days06:15
eyequeueXirdneh:  there may be a "do not use" that you'll want to toggle first <-- if it doesn't say that, that is fine :)06:15
Xirdnehkewl, so maybe i should give another kind of format to that partition06:16
eyequeueXirdneh:  example of what will work: format it as ext3, orverwriting anything there, and mount it on mount point "/"06:16
Xirdnehyea i have no problem understanding that, theproblem is that the partition software wont let me moun point on it, lol06:17
eyequeueXirdneh:  it seems that yuo may have some other installer than i'm used to?06:19
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eyequeueXirdneh:  are you running this partitioner inside the installer, or is this an app you are running externally?06:19
__learner__I have a sempron processor, should I install the k7 kernell? Will it work?06:19
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Xirdnehnope, i put the ubuntu disc in to my lap and after it recognize my hardware this appear, disk partition, configuire RAID software, etc...06:19
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eyequeueXirdneh:  funny, the cd i have has the option to specify mount point, in its partitioner frontend06:19
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rapala61hi all, just a quick question... my CPU is a 2500+ its supposed to consume 1.65v default... but im looking at my sensors and it drops down to 1.62 while compiling kernel.. and im looking at a lot of warnings on the compile... any connection????06:20
threadrapala61: no06:20
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Xirdnehthis jst say, configuire RAID software... CONFIGURE logic volumes... Partition wizard... Partition help... and a list of partitions that are already made in my HD06:20
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wizard_2?06:20
eyequeueXirdneh:  did partition help help any?06:21
wizard_2I think my irc client is broken06:21
rapala61thread, so the drop doesnt affect compiles??  how low can it go before it affects?06:21
threadrapala61: your proc will either work or not work. if it doesn't work, compiles would FAIL. warnings arise from the code, not your hw performance06:22
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__learner__do you know if the k7 kernell regognize sempron processors?06:22
Xirdnehnope it just say what i need todo, that allready know... well let me give it another format and i think that will work, if dont, then damn, c ya tomorrow, thanx for the help anyway06:22
sproutany windows/ubuntu dual boot experts in here?06:22
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__learner__I using dual boot. But am no expert...06:23
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rellikwhat do I need to install to get linux to be aware of computer's samba names?06:23
eyequeuesprout:  ask, maybe someone will know06:23
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sproutI partitioned my disk, partition 0, physical, winxp06:23
sproutpartition 5 logical, linux swap06:24
rapala61thanks..  so i guess i can safely overclock the pc w/o affecting future compiles06:24
sproutpartition 6 logical, ext306:24
sproutpartition 7 logical, ext306:24
sproutpartition 8 logical, ext306:24
sproutinstalled ubuntu to partition606:24
sproutinstalled grub06:24
sproutreboot06:24
threadrapala61: as I said, if it doesn't work (which might happen if you oc your proc) compiles will BOMB OUT06:24
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threadrapala61: that qualifies as "affecting future compiles"06:25
sprouti get theses messages about PXE netboot, which fail, and then it says disk boot failure, insert system disk06:25
eyequeuesprout:  in grub, /dev/hda6 is called 0,506:25
threadrapala61: but that's not to say you might not have problems if you oc06:25
vir--hi, which package is xorgcfg included in? im running hoary..06:25
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eyequeuesprout:  could that be your error?06:25
randabis-laptopspout you installed grub to your MBR right? (hd0)06:25
sproutwell, the installer just asked me to install grub to the mbr, so i said yes.06:26
randabis-laptopok06:26
wizard_2hello, I was mentioned, but I couldn't read anything06:26
randabis-laptopcheck your boot order in the bios06:26
rapala61thread, ok... i think im playing this one safe... this is my 5th installation and i cant afford not sleeping 3 days on a row so.. thanks06:26
sproutboot order is cdrom, hard disk, nothing, nothing06:26
randabis-laptophmm06:27
threadrapala61: haha nice :) good luck06:27
sprouti guess I could try killing all the linux partitions and just see if I can get it to boot.06:27
randabis-laptopare you only using one hard drive? PATA or SATA?06:28
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sprout1 drive 74G raptor, sata06:28
rapala61thread, thx !06:28
rellikanyone know of a program that will scan my network for netbios names so I can 'ping <name>' instead of 'ping <ip>' ?06:29
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randabis-laptopthat could be your problem...possibly the SATA isn't booting06:29
sproutany idea how I could verify that's the problem?06:29
MacPlusG3rellik: you're confusing things. ping is for TCP/IP (i.e. ip addresses) or names resolved via DNS. NetBIOS is some windows thing.06:29
MacPlusG3rellik: although smbclient et al may be able to help you do what you want.06:30
randabis-laptopunfortunately I don't know :/ I only have PATA drives06:30
rellikMacPlusG3, netbios is a protocol that associates strings (names) with cmoputers...  yes, it is a windows thing.. (I'm doing some work with SMB)...  even so, I want to be able to ping a netbios name06:31
eyequeuerellik:  do you have samba-things installed on your ubuntu box?06:31
sproutit shows the drives as scsi, so I assume that's the sata06:31
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rellikeyequeue, yeah, so that's why I don't get why netbios isn't working :(06:31
bitfoosup boyzzzzzzzzz06:31
MacPlusG3rellik: you will want to use one of the samba/smb client utilities to find the ip address (or maybe they have a ping type functionality in them too..)06:32
eyequeuerellik:  i've never touched samba here, but from what someone mentioned earlier, a start might be: sudo apt-get install samba samba-common smbclient06:32
rellikeyequeue, I have to 'smbmount -o ip=<ip> //<name>/share'  ...  it is *really* annoying that smb isn't automatically taking care of this06:32
randabis-laptopsmbfs too06:32
MacPlusG3rellik: it should. you probably have something wrong with your network then06:33
rellikyeah, I have all the smb stuff installed06:33
eyequeuerellik:  okay, i'm of no further help to you in this then06:33
MacPlusG3rellik: windows has been known to just confuse itself really badly06:33
MacPlusG3rellik: what machines do you have on the network?06:33
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eyequeuerellik:  luck06:33
rellikany idea if netbios advertises using broadcasts?  that would explain why I'm not getting anything (I'm on a big network, with the broadcast domains broken up06:34
randabis-laptopmaybe there is a way to add the samba shares to fstab...not sure06:34
randabis-laptopI use nfs06:34
rellikMacPlusG3, it's a school network..  so there're a ton of machines06:34
jdubrellik: what you need is a netbios resolver for nsswitch06:34
MacPlusG3rellik: you may have a WINS server. that could solve some of your problems06:35
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eyequeuehmm, is there a good HOWTO for smb-on-linux issues?06:35
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randabis-laptoppossibly...I know ubuntuguide has some info on samba06:36
eyequeuei'm thinking like the Mail-Administrator-HOWTO, something that doesn't presume you know the difference between an MUA and MTA, but smb-speak06:37
eyequeueit doesn't scratch a personal itch of mine, but i'd refer people to it if i knew it was appropriate06:38
rellikMacPlusG3, you may be right...  I'll look into the WINS server...  I found a program (nbtscan) that will scan an ip or range for netbios info...  but it doesn't add it to the hosts file or anything..  is it possible to have two hosts files?06:38
Amaranthjdub: you were on lugradio?06:39
eyequeuerellik:  you can have hosts.small and hosts.large, but only one is active at a time, /etc/hosts (sudo cp hosts.large /etc/hosts, to make that one active, for example)06:39
jdubAmaranth: yeah06:40
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Amaranthjdub: Cool. If I wasn't on dialup from hell I'd listen.06:40
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Soap_On_A_Roapanyone know any cool Desktop snazzy uppers, I don't care what they do, as lonmg as you think they're cool06:41
Soap_On_A_RoapI have Gdesklets already06:41
froustrellik: AFAIk, netbios communicates via broadcast06:42
syn-ackit does.06:42
syn-ackThats how it "assigns" IPs06:42
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jdubrellik: look at winbind06:43
jdubrellik: it includes an nss module that may help06:44
randabis-laptopSoap_On_A_Roap, There's SuperKaramba, but it's mainly for KDE..not sure how well it would work with gnome, if at all06:50
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geppy|awayHow do you make a brochure in oo.org?06:51
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bitfoohmm06:54
bitfooyo why does my firefox crash whenever I click on an email link06:54
bitfooand why does thunderbird not automagically open :|06:54
geppyBecause mailto: sucks?06:54
geppydo you have it set to open thunderbird/06:54
geppyThe Ubuntu Firefox build probably defaults to Evolution.06:55
geppyAre you running Hoary?06:55
geppyFirefox is being incredibly slow for me in Hoary.06:55
bitfooim running warty06:55
geppyOh.06:55
bitfooand i dont know how to set it to open thunderbird06:55
bitfoo:|06:55
bitfooand also i dont know if mailto sucks :|06:56
geppyhaha06:56
bitfooand i also dont have evolution :|06:56
randabis-laptopI perfer galeon in linux06:56
randabis-laptopfirefox is good for windows though06:56
bitfooyes yes, we have all our preferences06:56
bitfoohow do i fix it though :|06:56
randabis-laptopprobably in firefox preferences somewhere06:57
geppyI'm looking in about:config06:57
bitfooahh06:57
bitfooabout:config06:57
bitfooof course!06:57
geppynetwork.protocol-handler.external.mailto06:58
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geppySet that to false, and it should default to thunderbird.06:59
geppySomething that makes sense, but still drives me crazy...07:00
bitfooactually no07:00
geppyoh, sorry07:00
bitfoothat just hides all mailto:07:00
geppytry google?07:00
geppyoh07:00
bitfooi was lik lol07:00
geppyheh07:00
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geppywhen you type in a bad domain, firefox searches for it and uses google's first result... the first result for anything starting with 'http:://" is MS.com.  Argh, pet peeve.07:01
geppybitfoo?07:02
geppyDesktop>Preferences>Preferred Applications07:02
geppy"Mail Reader"07:03
geppyBrochures in oo.org, anybody?07:03
bitfoono no07:03
bitfooi found :|07:03
bitfoomore complicated than that :07:03
geppyheh07:03
bitfoohttp://opensource.weblogsinc.com/entry/7672458579278871/07:03
geppyheh07:04
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geppyBrochures in oo.org, anybody?07:04
bitfoodunno :((((((((((07:05
Plukbitfoo, in about:config add a new string network.protocol-handler.app.mailto07:06
Plukand as value: mozilla-thunderbird07:06
regeyawhee07:06
geppythis sucks07:06
Amaranthor redefine the sensible-whatever symlink07:06
regeyaI guess nobody does DTP in an office suite (hooray!)07:07
geppyDTP?07:07
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regeyadesktop publishing07:07
geppyheh07:07
bitfoo:O07:07
geppyI don't exactly have time to figure latex out before this is due. =)07:07
regeyagah, the next person who hands me a FLOPPY DISK with a WORD DOCUMENT on it and calls it a CAMERA-READY AD will DIE A SLOW AND PAINFUL DEATH.07:08
geppyhahahahahahaha07:08
regeyasorry.07:08
regeyapent-up anger from work.07:08
regeyapay it no mind.07:08
geppyArgh, I think I might just do this brochure on Word during CompSCi tomorrow.07:08
regeyahell, if people would use OO.o, they could even submit PDFs, no problem.07:08
geppyheh07:09
stevedoes anyone know for sure if I can install office for windows thru wine on my laptop. I need some of the functionality for my math class07:09
geppyYeah.07:09
regeyawell, when you say 'brochure' whta do you mean?07:09
regeyawhat even07:09
geppySteve: yes07:09
steveyou can?07:09
geppyregeya:  A brochure, like a leaflet.  A tri-fold information booklet.07:09
regeyahow evil07:09
regeyaoh, well, hm...07:09
geppySteve: yes.  What functionality do you need?07:09
stevethe solver07:09
stevefor my statistics class07:10
geppySteve:  Not familiar.  Yeah, Word should work in WINE.07:10
steveit is in excell07:10
geppyoh07:10
geppyno wonder07:10
steveIt is not a fun class, graphs and stuff07:10
geppyheh07:10
geppyOuch.07:10
neighborleegeppy, prob.not...bettter in a desktop publishing app like scribus07:10
stevethis is my last semester of school07:10
steveI graduate in march07:10
steveBs in Project Management07:11
geppyneighborlee:  I'll apt-get try it out.07:11
geppyhaha07:11
regeyahonestly, geppy, if you have any experience with a frame-type DTP package, give scribus a go, as neighborlee says07:11
geppyAlright.07:11
regeyait's quite good07:11
bitfooyou can get a degree in project management?07:11
geppyWhy does oo.org suck so much?  Is it just because it used to be a commercial monstrosity?07:11
stevegeppy, do you know if k3b will copy encrypted dvds07:11
regeyayou might want to ad the ubuntu-bp repo to your sources.list, unless you're bleeding-edge hoary user07:11
regeyaiirc backports has a newer scribus version07:12
geppysteve:  You'll need to use transcoding, methinks.07:12
stevetrasncoding?07:12
geppyregeya:  I'm using Hoary, atm.07:12
steveschool me07:12
regeyageppy, it's an office suite07:12
geppySteve:  transcode is a dvd-ripper07:12
steveokay, is it a package07:12
geppysteve: yes07:12
stevecool07:12
steveI will have to make that happen07:12
regeyajust as I tell my boss when he uses an Excel spreadsheet for memo-writing purposes, you need to use the right tool. :-)07:12
geppyregeya:  My point exactly.  Why should it be such a resource hog?  All that it does is edit text!  vi doesn't hog my memory!07:13
steveyeap07:13
geppyhahahahahaha07:13
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bitfooisnt there like a publisher clone for OO07:13
geppypublisher clone?07:13
bitfooyeah07:13
geppyLike, star office?07:13
bitfooMS Publisher07:13
geppyoh07:13
bitfoomakes brochures and crap07:13
geppyI'm not familiar with most of the MS suite07:13
regeyagood gravy, what has happened to the graphics in penguin-command07:14
regeyadammit, I sent that guy PNGs07:14
regeya(in 1999 or something)07:14
geppyhahaha07:14
geppywtf makes oo such a beast?07:14
regeyait was a bigass monolithic app at one point07:14
geppyregeya:  Understood, but hasn't it had years of open-source development to help with that?07:14
regeyathey're working on it, but it's still a cross-platform app, which means that just using gtk would be stupid07:15
geppyheh07:15
regeyageppy: it's not as bad as it used to be, believe it or not07:15
bitfoogeppy07:15
geppyGTK is cross-platform "enough"07:15
bitfooyou can speed it up :|07:15
geppybitfoo:  How so?07:15
regeyageppy, it could be worse.  they could port it over to mozilla.07:15
bitfoothere is some tweak on ubuntuforums.org07:15
bitfoosomewhere07:15
geppyregeya:  haha07:15
stevegeppy, I just tried to install the program and some of the deps' wont install. Oh well, I will see if it will work without that app. I have dvddcss07:15
geppybitfoo:  What good is a tweak that they don't package?07:15
bitfooin oo07:15
geppysteve: Alright.07:15
regeya'the entire interface is xml isn't that cool?'07:16
bitfootools > options > memory07:16
stevewhat are you running linux on geppy07:16
geppybitfoo:  What I'm saying is, what good is a speed tweak to the ed user, if they don't package it?07:16
bitfoographics cache use for open office.org make it like 30 mb and dorp memory per object to 207:16
bitfoo:|07:16
geppysteve:  specs?  Athlon XP 2500+, gig and a half of RAM07:16
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MBAhi07:16
stevenice07:16
MBAwas a new website selected?07:16
MBAcontest ended today07:16
stevei am running mine on a toshiba 17in 3.0p407:17
bitfoooh it did? :|07:17
stevedvd +/-07:17
stevelaptop07:17
geppySteve: ah, cool.  How's the hardware support?07:17
bitfooim running on asus m6bne :|07:17
steveawesome with ubuntu07:17
geppybitfoo:  Ouch.07:17
MBAtime warner center rocks07:17
bitfooouch?07:17
MBAfiber to the apartment :)07:17
stevethe only issue is the vid driver. got to tweak07:17
MBAonly 2.75 mil for a 2 bedroom!07:17
MBAwith fiber :)07:17
stevethis moflappy smokes in linux07:18
geppybitfoo:  Sorry, is it nice?  The only pre-built desktops that I've ever used have been crap.07:18
MBAi was put on a waiting list07:18
bitfooits laptop :O07:18
MBAthey are sold out of the smallest 2 bedroom07:18
geppysteve: haha07:18
MBAalala07:18
geppybitfoo:  Oh, Asus makes nice laptops.07:18
bitfooits nice07:18
bitfooexcept they gayed up the bios07:18
steveI reallly like this distro07:18
bitfooso acpi cant work right :|07:18
regeyaoooqs-kde helps on launch time, but that requires a.) kde libs and b.) that you have OOo running all the time to help07:18
stevethe best I have ever tried07:18
geppyI think all of us do. =)07:18
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steveeven ACPI workds07:19
steveworks07:19
bitfoomine half works07:19
steveout of the box07:19
bitfooit knows when its on battery and when its plugged in07:19
geppyregeya:  I really don't have trouble with OO.org on this machine, but it's a serious problem on my dad's PIII, or my old PI.07:19
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bitfoothats it :/07:19
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regeyaPI!  yikes.07:19
stevemy only issue I would say is getting it to hibernate07:19
bitfoomy battery always says 0% and suspend to anything will crash meh ubuntu :|07:19
regeyaever thought of using abiword and gnumeric? ;-)07:19
geppyregeya:  haha... don't be hateful, it was my old "1337 gaming machine"07:19
geppy=)07:19
stevereally, sory to hear that07:19
geppyhahaha07:20
geppyregeya:  no, not really07:20
regeyathey're not that bad, really.07:20
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regeyaoboy, a trekkie.07:20
steveanyone get the network manager to work properly07:20
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LordKahlesshey someone think they could help me? i just installed ubuntu, when i loaded into gnome, i dont have that one computer menu that i get with gnome LOL07:20
LordKahlessanyone know how i could create it? :)07:20
LordKahlesslol GeneralKang07:21
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geppyregeya:  Are they MS clones?  I'm convincing the school techie teacher to put OO.org on all of the school machines... I doubt that she'd put an unfamiliar interface on.07:21
steveI installed it last night and after I restarted, it would not go on the web07:21
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regeyaOOo would be a better choice for a MS house07:21
geppyLordKahless: Add to Panel> Main Menu07:21
regeyaabiword isnt' that different, but they might find it lacking07:21
geppyregeya:  That's what I was thinking.07:21
steveanyone using network manager07:22
geppyIs abiword a win-app, as well?07:22
LordKahlessoh wow, thanks07:22
stevefor laptops07:22
regeyageppy: I've managed to get the XP machines at work running OOo and Firefox, so that's a start I suppose07:22
geppyregeya:  heh, cool07:22
regeyageppy: be prepared to answer questions for the hardk0re MS Office users, though07:22
geppyregeya:  I was thinking about trying to switch her over to Linux, but then I'd have to set up FlashMX through WINE, or something07:22
bitfoosteve: i use netapplet07:23
bitfoofrom debian distro :|07:23
geppyregeya:  hardcore?  This is high school, no one knows how the hell to use a computer. =)07:23
regeyathere are times you'll run into wild differences between OOo and MS07:23
regeyahahaha07:23
LordKahlesshey geppy, i did that but it puts it on the panel, i want to get an icon for it on the desktop07:23
regeyagood point07:23
steveokay, do you have problems with it, geppy07:23
regeyasorry07:23
geppyLuckily, this is my last semester, hence my lack of working to fix everything.07:23
LordKahlessit wont let me move it heh07:23
stevethat is actually what I installed last night07:23
bitfoosteve: looks like this http://tech9.net/rml/log/200408240107:23
bitfoo:|07:23
steveit is listed as other right07:23
geppyLordKahless:  Why would you put the gnome menu on the desktop?07:23
geppysteve: what?07:23
steveon the screen07:23
bitfoowhat?07:24
steveI restarted and it would not let me route my IP07:24
LordKahlessoh no, not the gnome menu, when u go to add, i want the icon that says "disks"07:24
geppysteve:  What are you asking if I have trouble with?07:24
stevenetapplet07:24
bitfoowhat?07:24
geppyLordKahless:  Then drag it to the desktop.07:24
geppyLordKahless:  drag-and-drop07:24
LordKahlessit wont work07:24
LordKahlessi tried that07:24
steveit really messed my system up07:24
regeyaheadbutt it07:24
steveafter I restarted07:24
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steveI will suffer for a while till something else comes out07:25
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ever34Trying to install on Dell Inspiron 3500 laptop. After "Scanning CD-ROM", it hangs. Runs Live CD OK (with linux nodma) though.07:25
steveI heard march will be a new ubuntu distro07:25
geppyLordKahless:  Try again.  Click to open the menu, then click and drag the disks icon07:25
geppySteve: they release every six months07:26
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geppyargh, this is a waste of time, I'm never going to get this brochure started07:26
geppyhigh school sucks07:26
LordKahlessall it does is kinda... float back to the menu07:26
stevetrue, I am not sure when the last one was, I just heard it from someone07:26
geppyLordKahless:  Works fine for me.07:26
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LordKahlessthat doesnt help07:26
bitfooever34, maybe the image is bad?07:26
bitfooor maybe you have to pass it something at boot :|07:27
ever34Ran the full MD5SUM check.07:27
steveso has anyone else had any experience with net applet07:27
bitfoome07:27
steveI just wanted to gauge my test with it07:27
ever34Yah, been trying boot params. I'm sure I need nodma, and tried several others.07:27
steveand see if it was only me07:27
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bitfooi use it and i think ficus planet does07:27
steveI know ficus07:28
bitfooyou need like 3 files from deb repository to make it work :|07:28
steveHe helped me out last night07:28
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stevetrue, it just mad my system go crazy07:28
steveafter it was installed and restarted. I could no longer route my IP properly07:29
stevealas, I could not go on the internet07:29
steveIt was terrible07:29
steveI saved my /home and just reinstalled07:29
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bitfoothat is drastic :|07:29
stevehad no choice. My linux genius friend could not figure it out.07:30
steveWe spent like 4 hours trying to figure it out07:30
steveI just dealt with it and got my system back up today07:30
steveno loss of data07:30
bitfooplz :/07:31
jrnicl2anyone cold tell me where to find ubuntu's software to download?07:31
bitfooi consider loss of linux configurations loss of data :|07:31
jrnicl2anyone could tell me where to find ubuntu's software to download?07:31
bitfoolike what :O07:31
stevethat would be true07:31
bitfoolike games and programs or actual ubuntu jrnicl207:31
jrnicl2yes, games and programs07:31
stevewhy not do it through the sources07:31
jrnicl2I'm new to it07:32
steveokay07:32
bitfooif you click on Computer > System Configuration > Synaptic07:32
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jrnicl2I was using fedora07:32
steveI am sure these smart guys can walk you through it07:32
jrnicl2ok07:32
bitfooyou will see a list of all the programs you can install :|07:32
stevethis is way better than fedora07:32
stevemuch easier07:32
steveI have used them both07:32
cowbudwtf is a good graphical diff util someone was raging about it on planet gnome the other day now I forgot!07:32
jrnicl2thanks Steve07:33
steveno problem07:33
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steveI love coming here to help and be helped07:33
bitfooor if you open a terminal, type sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list and then uncomment the two mentioned lines so you add universe repository07:33
rempresentok, a question real fast, i have unzipped an application, and did ./configure, make, and then make install, what do i do after that??07:33
bitfooand then sudo apt-get update07:33
bitfoothen go to synaptic and you have 10k more programs :|07:33
steveyeap07:33
bitfooyou run the program rempresent :|07:33
rtI'm getting an odd message while trying to install warty.07:34
rempresentbitfoo:  thanks07:34
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stevedoes anyone know of good program to back up my linux07:35
stevejust curious07:35
rtcdrom md5 sums ok, but linux-i386 fails07:35
stevejust in case07:35
zenroxsteve,  learn how to use tar07:36
zenroxand cp07:36
stevethanks07:36
cowbudahh meld07:36
rtbroken packages07:36
steveI actually am getting pretty good at untarring07:36
zenroxtar it up and cp it to another hdd07:36
stevecool07:36
zenroxor remote pc07:36
steveyou know that is a good idea. I am about to make my old cpu a network07:37
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steveyou know like a file server07:37
zenroxi have one07:38
stevecool07:38
stevehow big07:38
zenroxand its headless too07:38
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zenrox700mhz 64megs of ram 2 15gig hdds and 1 20 gig07:38
zenroxhas ubuntu on it too07:38
stevethis one will be like a 400mhz with a 30 gig07:38
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stevejust good enough to do what I need07:38
zenroxyep07:38
steveI am wireless and that will be awesome for when I am at school07:39
bitfooi want a file server the size of a cd spindle :|07:39
zenroxi even let it install x so i can get a gdm login if i need a gui07:39
stevethat would be nice bitfoo07:39
zenroxbitfoo,  get moding07:39
zenroxlol07:39
bitfoook07:39
bitfoobankroll me :|07:39
stevetruly07:39
zenroxlol07:39
bitfoo;] 07:40
steveI think I might be me an ibook as well this year07:40
steveit has unix. that is good enough for me07:40
zenroxya but ubuntu can install in thoes07:40
zenroxtoo07:40
steveI forgot, true07:40
stevemaybe virtual pc or something07:41
stevebe slow though07:41
zenroxnaw it can install on it as a full os07:41
zenroxjust get the ppc ver of ubuntu07:41
stevewonder how the hardware would match up07:41
steveagain you are right07:41
steveI really am glad that they came out with synaptic manager07:42
stevemakes life so much easier with deps07:42
zenroxyep07:42
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stevewhere ya from zenrox07:43
zenroxusa07:43
bzbbwhich version of debian is closest to warty?07:43
steveokay, good call, where07:43
zenroxwashington07:43
zenroxstate07:43
bitfoobzbb i think sid07:43
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steveI am on co07:43
stevesprings07:43
zenroxkewl07:43
stevegot snow07:44
bzbbso, the opera software package for sid would be my best bet?07:44
zenroxnot any more here07:44
steveours melted today07:44
zenroxours melted 1week ago07:44
stevenice07:44
stevewe are expected to get more tomorrow07:44
bitfoothere is no opera version in universe or multiverse?07:45
zenroxand we got our first major snow 4 weeks ago07:45
steveI like snow, just not working in it07:45
zenroxme neather07:45
bitfoonope i guess not :O07:45
stevewhat ya do for a living07:45
zenroxnothen07:46
steveI work for our uncle,....Sam07:46
bitfoobzbb  try sid version07:46
zenroxi am retired at 2607:46
bitfoomaybe it works :|07:46
stevemust be nice07:46
zenroxya ssa pays me 621 amonth to be crazy07:46
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stevethat works too07:46
dhi!07:47
zenroxand i have highspeed inet07:47
stevesame here07:47
zenroxlol07:47
zenrox768k/128k07:47
stevewe have adelphia here07:47
zenroxadsl07:47
bitfoowtf retired at 26 :|07:47
zenroxvz07:47
stevecable07:47
stevehe works hard for his money07:47
steveold eighties song07:47
zenroxbitfoo,  i told the gov i was crazy and thay agreed with me07:47
bitfoodude how do you live on 621 a month :|07:47
zenroxcreative accounting07:48
stevethat and top ramen07:48
zenroxhehehe07:48
XIrdnehHI THERE, can anyone help me recognising this  Dell Wireless 1450 DualBand (802.11a/b/g) Internal Wireless... is not working :(07:48
bitfoothats my rent right there :|07:48
zenrox350 a month in rent07:48
bitfooxirdneh i think that is an atheros chipset07:48
dok- I've got a web page with a bunch of links to some isos. What prog can I use to set these all downloading whilst I'm at work?07:48
steveI assumed you probedit07:48
zenroxand elect 45 bucks ever 2 months07:48
stevexi, did you probe it07:49
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XIrdnehbitfoo, yea someone told me, sorry for my ignorancy but i still dont know what to do07:49
bitfoohold up im googling o_O07:49
stevebitfoo it is on you07:49
stevexi, you can do iwconfig07:50
danyone know of a download manager or summat?07:50
dkget doesn't seem to work07:50
stevethere should be one in mozilla07:50
steveokay07:50
dsteve: moz or firefox?07:50
SeminoleYeah, Mozilla Extension "Downloadtehmall"07:50
zenroxFirefox07:51
XIrdnehsteve, let me try07:51
steveI have both, I think it is firefox07:51
zenroxyou can get one for eather or07:51
stevedo you know the commands07:51
dsteve: me? command for firefox? no07:51
steveno, for XI07:51
dok07:51
stevehe is trying to get his card to work on wifi07:52
_4strOyop yop07:52
bitfooXIrdneh, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5464&highlight=ndiswrapper07:52
bitfoothat is for dell true mobile wireless g07:52
bitfooso maybe similar, but it looks like you have to use ndiswrapper for both :|07:52
stevenice of you to do the research my man07:52
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XIrdnehthanx a lot bitfoo, ow you one07:53
zenroxXIrdneh,  just come back and give back07:53
Viper12Well I've taken the plung...and its installing....after a weekend of headaches with debian........we'll see.  oh, and hiya! :)07:54
jrnicl2does anyone know about the following after updating: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)07:54
jrnicl2E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?07:54
bitfooXIrdneh, well it will take some fiddling i think ;)07:54
bitfoojrnicl2, you cant have synaptic open while doing an apt-get command07:54
bitfoo:|07:54
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bitfooone or the other07:54
jrnicl2oh i see07:54
steveI was lucky, mine worked out the box with ubuntu07:54
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jrnicl2ok thanks07:54
XIrdnehi will07:54
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bubbangais there a wine-tool or whatever for ubuntu that makes it easier to install winblows apps? closest i seen was on google something called wine tools but not sure if it works on ubuntu or not07:55
siimohi does anyone here use hoary ?07:55
ferrishow can i get unbanned from a room?07:55
stevewhat ya do ferris07:55
zenroxferris,  ask for forgiveness07:55
ferrisnothing07:55
bitfooyeh wine-tools is on ubuntu :|07:55
steveokay, then you would not be banned07:55
bubbangaoh it is i dindt see it in synaptic07:56
bitfoowine-utils it is called :|07:56
ferrisi tried to go to #sword but it says that i am banned07:56
bubbangaoh ok thanks07:56
SeminoleUpdate your repositories if you haven't already and wine should be found.07:56
bitfooi dunno how to use it though :|07:56
Seminoleyeah, wine-utils..  good call bitfoo07:56
steveit is as simple as wine and the executable07:56
ferriszenrox, how would i07:56
SeminoleYeah, there is a setup script..07:57
zenroxcontact one of the ops ferris07:57
bitfooor you could run vmware and install windows INSIDE linux07:57
ferrisI do not know how to do that07:57
bitfooomg :|07:57
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mebaran151anyone know who proxyscan.freenode.net is07:57
siimoanyone use hoary the window list 2.9.90 is annoying in gnome.. if i open a lot of windows they start to get smaller without first expanding to the entire taskbar :-/07:57
mebaran151it is filling up my firewall logs07:57
dI'm downloading multiple isos (just 2 at the mo) under firefox at the moment, but I was really hoping I could tell it to download them in a serial, rather than parallel, manner. Can I do this under Ubuntu?07:57
bubbangaso just do wine and the exe after installed win-utils07:57
bitfooits a bot mebaran151 that checks to make sure you arent connecting through an open proxy :|07:58
mebaran151ah07:58
mebaran151ok07:58
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mebaran151it seems to keep getting blocked07:58
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mebaran151is it that important07:58
mebaran151why would it carry07:58
bitfoohmm dunno :O07:58
mebaran151I mean care07:58
mebaran151too late07:58
ferriszenrox, is there a way to find out who the ops is?07:58
siimohas anyone noticed that??07:59
bitfooyou could do /who #channelname07:59
mebaran151and zelzeny.freenode.ent07:59
zenroxyep bitfoo  is right07:59
bitfoomaybe bots07:59
bitfooi dunno07:59
bitfooask in help :|07:59
dI've got 5 isosI want downloading whilst I'm at work, i'm scared i'll get booted if I try leaching all 5 at once with Firefox07:59
mebaran151wget07:59
mebaran151I think could do that07:59
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mebaran151isnt there an option in wget for that08:00
mebaran151if you know the urls08:00
bubbangatrying like crap to get paltalk to work with linux guess it doesn't want to08:00
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Seminolemebaran151, check out the extensions for mozilla here https://addons.update.mozilla.org/extensions/showlist.php?application=firefox&version=0.9&os=Windows&category=Download%20Tools08:00
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ferriszelzeny.freenode.net08:02
mebaran151extensions dont work for me08:03
mebaran151I am on AMD6408:03
mebaran151bleeding edge with an emphasis on blood08:03
Seminolebummer08:03
dseminole: aren't they windoze extensions?08:03
Seminolethey are mozilla extensions08:03
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Seminolemozilla is cross platform, so are the extensions.08:03
dthere are a few downkload extensions- can you recommend one?08:03
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SeminoleI just grabbed the first one..08:04
mebaran151Seminole: i have tried loading the extensions08:04
SeminoleDownThemAll or something like that.   It works..08:04
mebaran151I think the problem is most of the extensions are not built for the 64 bit libraries08:04
SeminoleFlashget is probably good too08:04
mebaran151they expect 32 bit pointers08:04
mebaran151which I cant provide08:04
mebaran151because my system is completely 64 bit08:04
mebaran151Mozilla is cross platform08:04
mebaran151but I think it did need a little bit of porting to work08:05
mebaran151on all the architectures08:05
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mebaran151internally it is all the same08:05
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siimohi does anyone use hoary?08:05
mebaran151but the application loader itself and that sort of thing probably had to be ported08:05
mebaran151slimo: I do08:05
keyvanim thinking of installing ubuntu on my winbook notebook computer, recommend ubunto for notebooks?08:05
Seminoleyeah, I know I was actually responding to d's question about which one to grab..08:06
siimohow do i make the gnome window list behave the same way as it did in warty?08:06
siimomebaran151: do you know?08:06
Seminoleheard of alot of issues on the AMD6408:06
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mebaran151AMD64 was pretty bad08:06
mebaran151Evolution doesnt run08:06
mebaran151teh base is pretty solid though08:06
mebaran151Gnome finally got fixed08:06
mebaran151there was a lot of dependency hell08:07
mebaran151that they finally got fixed too08:07
bitfooggoooodd night ;|08:07
siimohmmm08:07
SeminoleI'll save the time and money and wait a few months..   :)08:07
linux-rulzmebaran151: is this hoary or warty on amd64 that ur talking about?08:07
siimoi have a huge taskbar but the window list doesnt grow all the way like it used to in warty08:07
siimoit starts to get so small i cant read the window titles08:07
siimoand half of the window list is empty08:08
mebaran151well Hoary08:08
mebaran151I dont know about Warty08:08
siimounless i open like 100 windows and turn off grouping08:08
linux-rulzah, ok08:08
mebaran151I needed Xorg for my Video Card to run08:08
mebaran151slimo08:08
mebaran151I had that same problem08:08
_4strOas I08:08
_4strO:p08:08
mebaran151right click the taskbar08:08
mebaran151there is like a little thing with three dots08:08
mebaran151next to the "show desktop icon" on the far left08:09
mebaran151right click that08:09
mebaran151go to preferences08:09
mebaran151go to size08:09
mebaran151and change the minimum size to like 48008:09
siimomebaran151: yes i know that but i have to make minimum size very big to make it behave like it used to08:09
mebaran151or something reasonable08:09
mebaran151oh08:09
mebaran151yeah08:09
mebaran151I do too08:09
mebaran151I think it is a bug08:09
mebaran151but I dont care08:10
_4strOwonderfull =)08:10
mebaran151it doesnt bother me08:10
_4strOthx mebaran15108:10
mebaran151np08:10
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mebaran151I thought minimum size meant minimum size before grouping08:10
mebaran151the devels must have gotten lazy or something08:10
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mebaran151and decided just to make it the base size08:10
siimono it means how wide the window will be with 1 window open08:11
mebaran151yeah08:11
_4strOminimum size after grouping ..08:11
siimoits annoying hope its fixed08:11
mebaran151but I dont think it should be that way08:11
mebaran151it should be more relative08:11
mebaran151I dont know how08:11
mebaran151but (gasp) more like Windows08:11
siimothey should follow the windows model where they automatically spread the tabs and shrink them as more windows are added/removed08:11
mebaran151(end gasp)08:11
mebaran151yeah08:11
mebaran151like XFCE even08:12
siimoi think warty was fine08:12
mebaran151warty defaulted it huge I think08:12
_4strOlol siimo08:12
mebaran151XFCE does alot of things08:12
siimo_4strO: well this maybe cause gnome 2.9 is dev branch hope its fixed before 2.1008:12
mebaran151it is the model of correct organization08:12
mebaran151siimo: but this is a silly bug08:13
mebaran151they shouldnt purposely break things08:13
mebaran151heheh08:13
mebaran151unless it is more complex than I think08:13
mebaran151why did they need to change the gnome-panel code anyway08:13
_4strOsiimo> warty have gnome 2.9, isnt-it ?08:13
_4strO( Operating System ) Linux Debian-3.1 Kernel: 2.6.10-2-k7, GNU/Linux | XFree86: 4.3.0.1 | Desktop: Gnome v2.9.9 | IRC Client: X-Chat v.2.4.108:13
mebaran151siimo: nope 2.808:13
mebaran151hence stable08:13
siimo_4strO: 2.808:13
_4strOk08:13
mebaran151stable means --> not broken08:14
mebaran151(yet)08:14
_4strOlool08:14
siimohoary has 2.9.90 some pkgs08:14
mebaran151yep08:14
mebaran151that is the point of Hoary08:14
mebaran151to let you break your system as fast as you like08:14
_4strOthe big problem in hoary is the python version ...08:14
_4strOtoo high08:14
mebaran151we have python 2.408:14
mebaran151they fixed that now :08:15
mebaran151:p08:15
_4strOno xmms-remote08:15
_4strO:/08:15
_4strOfor ex08:15
mebaran151yeah08:15
mebaran151that is annoying08:15
_4strO:)08:15
siimohttp://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16097708:15
siimothats the bug08:15
siimoits scheduled for 2.1008:15
siimoso thats good08:15
mebaran151oh good some one reported it08:15
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siimohttp://elektron.ewi.tudelft.nl/~feliks44/Screenshot.png08:16
siimo:-/ annoying08:16
undeadherowhere can i find gcc for ubuntu?08:16
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siimoundeadhero: apt-get install gcc08:17
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mebaran151what theme is that guy using08:17
pvhHullo, when I change my theme, it doesn't update anymore. What gives?08:17
mebaran151in the screeny08:17
siimoubuntu human08:18
mebaran151really08:18
mebaran151hmmm08:18
mebaran151let me put that on08:18
siimoisnt that the default08:18
undeadherothank you08:18
mebaran151now08:18
mebaran151I was looking at the fonts08:18
mebaran151they are so nice and clean08:18
_4strOmebaran151> it's the default theme ...08:18
mebaran151mine are ok08:18
mebaran151yeah08:18
mebaran151I just nocited08:18
mebaran151the fonts struck me nice08:18
mebaran151maybe I keep my desktop too small08:18
_4strOlol08:19
dthe flasget extension doesn't support wget- just supports a load of win download managers and get them all doesn't really add any new download options, just lets you download all the links on a page08:19
mebaran151liek Applicatiosn08:19
mebaran151look at that hinting08:19
siimomebaran151: have you also noticed the nautilus zooming makes fonts too small to read smaller than the minium set it gnome-font-properties08:19
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dso is there no qt/gtk wget front end or something like getright for linux?08:20
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siimod: i remember one such gwget08:20
grepperkget08:20
mebaran151gwget208:20
mebaran151apt-get install gwget208:21
siimod: theres also d4x08:21
grepperkget also integrates with konqueror08:21
mxreaderhi all, can anyone tell me how to set the monitor resolution please? my ubuntu keeps defaulting to too high a resolution each time it has rebooted08:21
dd4x versus gwget- anyone tried both?08:22
siimod: d4x has more features like getright gwget is light08:22
_4strOgnome-display-properties08:22
_4strOmxreader>08:23
dyeah- d4x sounds like what i wanted, thanks!08:23
_4strOand save session configuration08:23
mebaran151mxreader: if you want to be ghetto about it08:24
pvhIs the Gnome Theme Manager broken in Hoary because of the Fam/Gamin switch?08:24
mebaran151just disable the res in your X config file08:24
siimopvh: WFM08:24
pvhsiimo: WFM?08:24
siimoworks for me08:24
mebaran151pvh: WFMAW08:25
mxreader4str0 is that in system tools/configuraton editor?  sorry im a newbie08:25
pvhhuh.08:25
mebaran151works for me as well08:25
pvhmebaran151: I wonder what it could be.08:25
Viper12just booted into a fresh install gnome comes up....all seems well.....select audio app..........and now desktop is unresponsive.  being new to the 'game'.........any shortcuts to kill it?  (still learning my way around.08:25
mebaran151you could restart X08:25
mebaran151ctrl alt bkspace08:25
pvhgtm: It doesn't change themes, and it munches all the CPU.08:25
mebaran151pvh: nothing happens to me08:26
pvhmebaran151: I could try a gdb backtrace, too.08:26
mebaran151you could08:26
_4strOmxreader> just type gnome-display-properties in console08:26
siimoill come back to hoary when window list bug is fixed :)08:26
pvhsiimo: You mean the narrow window listings?08:26
mebaran151it is int that big a deal08:26
siimotime to restore warty install08:26
pvhsiimo: That's a joke, right?08:26
siimopvh: joke? why08:26
pvhsiimo: Right click the thumb next to the window listings.08:26
mebaran151siimo: just set it a tad larger08:26
pvhsiimo: Select "properties"08:26
Viper12that worked mebara..........any gotchas on ac97 sound?  lol.....asking cuz it looks like it doesn't like it.08:26
pvhsiimo: Set the settings to whatever you like.08:26
mebaran151ac97 can be weird08:27
Viper12tellin' me.08:27
siimothats too annoying for me cause when i have 1 window open its freaking huge08:27
pvhsiimo: You can configure it.08:27
mebaran151set it to like 48008:27
_4strOsame as warty08:27
mebaran151and it looks like it should08:27
mebaran151they jsut set it too small08:27
pvhsiimo: The settings are not intuitive, but they work.08:27
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siimopvh: but its a bug that will be fixed for 2.1008:27
_4strOI have to go08:27
_4strOsee ya all08:27
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whiprushmorning ooooobooontoooo08:28
_4`aw=)08:28
_4`awmorning whiprush08:28
pvhsiimo: Maybe the default value is not good?08:28
mebaran151Some Gnome guy really has to rethink the defaults08:28
siimopvh: its not just default value - windows start grouping before the whole taskbar fills up too08:28
mebaran151some of them are absurd08:28
pvhsiimo: WFM. :)08:28
siimopvh: only fix is making minimum size same as maximum08:28
siimopvh: but that way 1 or 2 windows open makes them huge08:29
mebaran151try XFCE08:29
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pvhsiimo: I kinda like that. :)08:29
mebaran151you will that is sort of useful08:29
mebaran151yeah08:29
mebaran151I agree with pvh08:29
pvhsiimo: "Garbage expands to fill the bandwidth available."08:29
siimopvh: well its a bug and it is going to be fixed08:29
pvhsiimo: Alright, cool.08:29
mebaran151siimo: it is a silly bug08:29
siimoso dont upgrade if you like it this way08:29
mebaran151it cant be a show stopper08:29
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pvhmebaran151: sure it can08:30
mebaran151whatever you like08:30
pvhmebaran151: everyone has certain things they find really annoying08:30
mebaran151yeah08:30
mebaran151true08:30
mebaran151just tired08:30
mebaran151tired = no logical thought08:30
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mxreader_4strO: i've done that and seen that dialog window before by computer/system confiration/screen resolution... ticked the remember thing.. but next reboot, its back to the high res08:30
mebaran151but you know08:30
mebaran151I am coming from a point where gnome couldnt even load08:30
pvhWhat is the One True Name of the GTM?08:31
siimoits not rocket science to make the windows scale to the window list08:31
mebaran151siimo: it is brain surgery08:31
_4`awmxreader> when u close session click to save session propeties08:31
pvhNM, found it08:31
mebaran151GTM?08:31
siimoanyway switching back brb08:31
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mebaran151I have to admit08:32
mebaran151Xorg really is much better than Xfree08:32
mxreader_4strO: yes, i've done that08:32
mebaran151I didnt think I would notice08:32
mebaran151but it does a cleaner job rendering08:32
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_4`awsorry mxreader i have to go ...08:33
mebaran151well I got to go to bed08:33
mebaran151help08:33
mebaran151sorry08:33
mebaran151whoops08:33
mebaran151wrong box08:33
mpnwhi guys, my ubuntu box isn't printing to my windows printer (though the network, using samba) anyone want to help me?08:33
mxreaderno worries thanks anyway08:33
_4`aw;)08:33
troll_godGtkpod really is awesome08:34
mpnwhello08:35
mpnwwould someone like to help me?08:35
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Viper12hi mpnw  whutup?08:36
mpnwmy ubuntu box isn't printing to my windows printer (though the network, using samba)08:36
mpnwmy printer is an HP deskjet 3650, connected to a machine running windows XP. the XP box is connected to the ubuntu box over the network08:37
mpnwand i want to be able to print from the ubuntu box onto the hp printer08:37
Viper12shakes head..does the ubu box have permissions? (without knowing what type of win network you live on...........is it XP home or Pro?  or....server?08:37
zenroxmpnw, follow www.ubuntuguide.org08:37
mpnwXP pro, no permissions08:37
mpnwi been there08:38
mpnwhasnt got anything on printers08:38
mpnwto my knowledge08:38
Viper12you haven't set up 'sharing' on the printer then?08:38
mpnwsharing is set up08:38
mpnwwith permissions set to EVERYONE (read write etc...)08:38
mpnwwindows sharing that is08:38
Viper12hmmm. are the drivers compatible between the two enviroments? guessing here.08:39
Viper12(printer)08:39
mpnwnot sure... i add the printer through the Printing  "Add Printer" dialog in ubuntu08:39
zenroxmy hp 3520 works08:39
zenroxand its on ubuntu08:39
mpnwis it pluged into the ubuntu box?08:39
zenroxyep08:40
mpnwcos i want to print from the ubuntu box to a shared printer on the windows box08:40
zenroxwas pluged to a windows before the ubuntu virus took over08:40
Viper12I'd check hp site regarding problems with drivers between the two (communication wise).  if you can SEE the printer from ubu ........should print.08:40
mpnwno, i can't SEE it08:40
mpnwu mean in the network config?08:40
Viper12no08:40
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lool:win 508:41
looloop08:41
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Viper12can you see the XP box at all? (shared drives and such?  (via the files/folders in ubu?)08:41
mpnwyes08:41
OrcristI could be wrong but isn't there a specific daemon in the .debs somewhere for HP print sharing?  not sure if its server-side or what but it may be necessary08:41
mpnwall shared folders can be accessed08:41
Viper12then you need to go back to the printer and try to re-share it.08:41
mpnwtried that08:42
Viper12if that doesn't do it.......it is possible that a daemon might be required.08:42
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mpnwwhere can i get that from?08:42
mpnwany ideas?08:42
Viper12I'm more XP side expert than linux.........I'd go to hp's site and keyword that in their support section.08:42
Viper12or get in an hp 'room' and yell there.....08:42
mpnwis there another way of sharing printers (not thru smb?)08:43
Seminolempnw, do you have the printer host listed by the computer name or the IP of the XP machine?08:43
decklinmpnw: what's your error_log say?08:43
mpnwno error to log08:43
mpnwI tried to add the printer thru the Add Printer thing in ubuntu08:43
mpnwand typed it in as a windows printer08:44
mpnwwith the computer name and share name of the printer08:44
decklini mean, if you try to print something.08:44
mpnwthen tried to print to it, and nothing happens08:44
SeminoleTry using the IP of the XP machine08:44
mpnwokay08:44
SeminoleIt may not be working cause you don't have an alias set for the XP name in your hosts file08:44
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decklinif it doesn't work, something should be written to /var/log/cups/error_log08:44
Seminoleor something similar.08:45
Orcristmpnw: look in your repositories and do a search for hp printer08:45
mpnwi'm using smb08:45
mpnwokay08:45
SeminoleMy HP works fine in the same setup using the IP08:45
mpnwill try ip08:45
mpnwbrb08:45
Orcristthere are several different daemons for spoolers and whatnot there... one of those might be what you're after if all else fails08:45
mike_douglasjust noticed that on DistroWatch, Ubuntu is #1 for the "Last Month" standings08:45
Orcristalso mpnw, try www.linuxprinting.org08:46
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mpnwokay08:46
mpnwunder the Add Printer dialog08:47
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mpnwit asks for CUPS url,  or smb host and printer names08:47
Seminoleselect Windows Printer (SMB)08:48
SeminoleHost = IP08:48
splitercan I ask somebody about the Ubuntu's "Website Look'n'Feel Competition"?08:48
SeminolePrinter = Share Name for Printer08:48
mpnwokay08:48
mpnwtrying that08:48
SeminoleDon't worry about username / passy yet08:48
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SeminoleSelect the proper driver after that and then print a test page08:49
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mpnwUnable to connect to samba host08:49
mpnwcant set dublex mode = book08:50
mpnw:S08:50
hcaBurner not recognized08:50
Seminolehmmm08:50
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decklinmpnw: try connecting to it with smbclient. make sure it doesn't have a firewall turned on, etc08:51
mpnwyeah did that too08:51
mpnwnothin08:51
mpnwturn off windows firewall?08:52
SeminoleDo you have SP2 installed?08:52
Seminoleif so, disable the firewall08:52
hcaBurnet not recognized. When trying to burn an *.iso I get the error message: "Burn/// is not a correct address" The burner works correctly on other OS's08:52
mpnwyes08:53
mpnwi disabled firewall08:53
mpnwand retried08:53
mpnwstill nothing08:53
SeminoleDo you have another folder shared on the network that you CAN connect to wth smbclient?08:54
whiprushhca: you try right clicking on the iso and choosing "write to cd"?08:54
mpnwi can access all the shared folders on the XP box thru ubuntu08:54
mpnwby just clicking on the network button08:54
SeminoleNo issues with sytax for the printer share name?08:55
mpnwit's shared as neb-hp08:55
Seminoleis there anything in the username / password fields?08:56
mpnwno08:56
mpnwon windows, under permissions, it's allow everything to everyone08:56
Seminolehmm...   Mine auto populated with three stars in the password field..  Have no idea what they are as I didn't set a password.08:56
SeminoleMine works08:56
Seminolenothing in my username field..08:57
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SeminoleNow I'm afraid to mess with it..   :)08:57
mpnwyeah, mine autopopulated with stars as well08:57
Seminoleleave those in perhaps?08:57
mpnwit looked like the same length as my root password08:57
SeminoleNot mine...  way off08:57
mpnwit doesnt seem to work with them in or out08:57
SeminoleYour printer is found on the driver list right?08:57
mpnwyes08:58
mpnwHP deskjet 365008:58
mpnwits there in all its glory08:58
mpnwstill says "Unable to connect to SAMBA host"08:58
hcaIs there someone out there having had success with a liteOn burner?08:59
mpnwin error log it says "NT_STATUS_BAD_NETWORK_NAME"08:59
mpnwclue?08:59
SeminoleI wish I knew..  You have access to your other shares but not your printer.  That alone says that the smb is working but just not for your printer.09:00
decklinok. what's the smb:// url you're using?09:00
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mpnwsmb:// url?09:01
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mpnwis that to me?09:02
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Rake`Hey guys - is there a way to view installed packages in terminal?09:02
mpnwsmb://nebula/neb-hp  (nebula is windows box)09:02
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Aydenwhat's the package name for sshd?09:03
Seminoletype ping nebula09:03
decklinRake`: dpkg -l09:03
decklinAyden: openssh-server09:04
Rake`ta09:04
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Ayden...09:04
Aydenwhy isn't it named sshd?09:04
pvhWhere can I find daily Wine debs these days?09:04
mpnwunknown host nebula09:04
zenroxAyden, openssh-server is what it is09:05
Seminoletry smb://192.x.x.x/neb-hp  ??09:05
decklinAyden, there are many many different implementations of the ssh protocol09:05
mpnwtry it where?09:05
mpnwin the host textbox?09:05
Seminolewell, no...   the host box is only for the host..09:06
Orcristwhy is it that despite my internet workign fine, dhcp'ing correctly (I didn't have to touch the setup) and all else being well, when I try to do a ping or traceroute it just hangs on me? does ubuntu have some strict firewalling rules by default?09:06
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Seminoleperhaps adding a line in /etc/hosts ?09:06
mpnwok09:06
Aydendecklin, i suppose.09:06
Seminole192.x.x.x nebula09:06
bubbangaany reaosn why when i install firefox 1.0 from debian the java plugin doesn't work anymore i checked the links nd all and the pluggin is there :( if i revert back to the old version of firefox it works just fine any suggestions on how to fix this?09:06
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Orcristbubbanga have you tried re-registering the plugin?09:07
bubbangano i haven't how do you do that?09:07
Orcristgo to edit, preferences, and then web features09:08
mpnwi added that line09:08
Orcristmake sure the boxes for 'enable java' and 'enable javascript' are checked09:08
bubbangaboth are checked09:08
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Orcristhmm... you're sure the plugin is in the mozilla-firefox directory for the version you have installed?  I forget exactly where it goes but it has to be in /whatever/mozilla-firefox/plugins or some such09:09
bubbangai checked which firefox09:09
bubbangathen ls -la on that in /usr/bin and then went to that dir09:09
bubbangaand looked in plugins09:10
bubbangaand the so file is there09:10
Orcriststrange09:10
OrcristI know that when I tried to upgrade to 1.0 under warty it broke several things09:10
Orcristnotably my widgets, flash, and java capabilities09:10
bubbangayeah09:10
Orcristtook me a long time to un-fux them09:10
bubbangasame here09:10
Orcristeventually I reverted back... even though there are some sweet features in 1.009:11
bubbangathe debian file is what i downloaded09:11
bubbangawhats funny is i have it working just fine on my desktop box09:11
bubbangai wonder if i copy the plugin over it will work?09:11
Orcristyou could try that09:11
Orcristdoes the browswer work okay other than java?09:11
bubbangayeah but the only reason i have tried to upgrade is this09:12
bubbangai think there is a bug in firefox or something09:12
bubbangacause it will close at random for no reason at all09:12
bubbangaall firefox instances will close09:12
Orcristperhaps... 1.0 is a 'pre-release' if I remember correctly09:12
Agrajagno, 1.0 is 1.009:12
Agrajagit's the first release09:12
bubbangayeah its 1.1 now isn't it?09:12
pvhOrcrist: There was a 1.0PR, which came shortly before 1.0.09:13
OrcristI dunno... I could have sworn the 1.0 I had with hoary was labelled 'presomething'09:13
Orcristthat's the one I'm thinking of then pvh09:13
bubbangaany suggestions guys?09:13
pvhOrcrist: It was the 'pre-release' version of 1.009:13
troll_god Im going to make my next project removing python from ubuntu09:13
GammaRaytroll_god: well happy day09:14
Orcristlol that should be fun09:14
Orcristpython comes in nice and handy when building packages from source... esp if the tools used are python-enabled09:15
troll_godit offends me09:15
Orcristdo you love the perl?09:15
troll_godyar09:15
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OrcristI personally dislike perl... but for things like cgi scripting it's far more efficient than the python modules apache offers09:16
troll_godapt-get --force-yes --purge remove python*09:16
Orcristthen again, it's a null point since the site I serve gets like 3 hits a year09:16
HrdwrBoBremoving python in ubuntu is a Bad IDea09:16
troll_godHrdwrBoB: Im told that but i don't understand what is so vital about python09:17
HrdwrBoBperl is to debian09:17
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HrdwrBoBas python is to ubuntu09:17
troll_godHrdwrBoB: keep in mind im not really running ubuntu anymore, killed off init scripts and module overload etc09:17
HrdwrBoBtroll_god: well then go for your life09:17
HrdwrBoBif it breaks, fix it yourself :)09:18
Orcristlol he's running troll_godppix09:18
troll_godHrdwrBoB: debian doesn't install pearl by default =/09:18
troll_godperl*09:18
HrdwrBoBtroll_god: er09:18
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HrdwrBoBare you smoking some sort of crack?09:18
HrdwrBoBperl is in base09:18
troll_godHrdwrBoB: use the debian net inst, you get package selection and perl will not be installed by default09:19
dbt`veritasgood night peoples:)09:19
DeschanelHey. I've ordered few free CDs from the official Ubuntu site, and I am don't know when I'm receiving them, or am I receiving them at all. Any help?09:19
whiprushDeschanel: they might take a while.09:19
OrcristDeschanel, they send them in bulk09:19
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pvhDeschanel: It takes a while for them to ship.09:19
Orcristthey'll post up or email you when they send them out09:19
dbt`veritasi got ten a few weeks ago09:19
eyequeuehe may be making an arbitrary distinction between package 'perl' and package 'perl-base'09:19
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dbt`veritasi got a bunch so i could hand htem out:P09:19
Orcristit usually takes a while... the last shipment was recently09:19
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dbt`veritasalready got 2 people using ubuntu09:20
pvhdbt`veritas: Are they pretty?09:20
dbt`veritasvery much so09:20
Orcristyeah they want you to do that... and I've converted half my workplace to ubuntu09:20
dbt`veritasnice09:20
DeschanelBut I will recive them *sometime* right?09:20
dbt`veritasi got some mac ones too09:20
pvhOrcrist: very nice09:20
pvhDeschanel: yep09:20
dbt`veritasyes deschanel you will09:20
pvhDeschanel: slow connection?09:20
dbt`veritaseveryone: nite from MSU -Bozeman09:20
Orcristwell I'm trying to convert them to linux in general, but I know I'm wasting my time if it's not slick, clean, and easy for n00bs09:20
Deschanellol. yea, dial-up09:20
HrdwrBoBtroll_god: http://packages.debian.org/stable/base/ perl base syste09:20
HrdwrBoBm09:20
Orcristwhich is why ubuntu pwns so hard09:20
HrdwrBoBhttp://packages.debian.org/stable/base/perl-base09:21
pvhDeschanel: patience sucks09:21
troll_godHrdwrBoB: This comp is debian; apt-cache show-pkg base-files | grep perl, nothing returns09:21
Deschanelok, 10x for your help guys. bye.09:21
troll_godHrdwrBoB: so becuase perl is in woody its in 'base'09:21
Orcristhardcore linuxistas are like 'ubuntu is so n00b' and I'm like 'I spent 9 months in SuSE hell, I'll .deb format and nice succinct packaging any day'09:21
Orcristnot knocking suse09:21
HrdwrBoBtroll_god: perl-bae is in base09:21
HrdwrBoBbase09:21
troll_godHrdwrBoB: perl is also in ubuntu's warty, its not a base package though09:22
Orcristbut I, like a lot of .deb distro users really developed a distaste for .rpms09:22
troll_godHrdwrBoB: no its not09:22
whiprushOrcrist: it's not really that bad, it all depends on the packagers really ...09:22
troll_godHrdwrBoB: one again, 'apt-cache showpkg base-files | grep perl' does not return a package, there is no perl in debian base install09:22
HrdwrBoBbase-files is not 'base'09:23
whiprushif 10 different people offered debs for the same package we'd be just as hosed.09:23
Orcristwell other than YaST, I liked SuSE very much... but when I installed ximian gnome - a novell product as well, and it broke 177 packages... I was like 'omg'09:23
HrdwrBoBbase-files is a package that contains base files09:23
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troll_godHrdwrBoB: Then whats 'base' its a meta package for base-files and base-passwd, with base-files being the system, and base-passwrd being encryption stuff09:24
bubbangaanything special have to be done to a so file to get it to work ? i scp'd the file over to my /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins dir and nada no java this stinks :(09:24
eyequeueokay, 4-line flood to prevent > 4 line argument09:24
cfitzhello, all09:24
Orcristhow did you install java in the first place bubbanga? from the sun installer or from the .deb package?09:24
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bubbangai got it from the debpackage but i think i see what i did wrong09:25
Mixuthello09:25
bubbangai coppied the symbolic link instead of the actual true file09:25
Mixuti have a problem with uninstalling ubuntu, can anyone help??09:26
troll_godHrdwrBoB: ... ? understand?09:26
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Orcristwhat's your problem mixut?09:26
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eyequeuetroll_god:  better yet, you're in woody? 'apt-cache show perl-base | head -n 4'09:26
troll_godeyequeue: so perl-base, is not debian base, its just a meta package for perl...09:27
HrdwrBoBtroll_god: I'm not talking to you09:27
HrdwrBoBit's not productive09:27
troll_godeyequeue: nothing in debian requires perl-base09:27
HrdwrBoBcatch09:27
eyequeuetroll_god:  read the output of that command09:27
pvheyequeue: You realise you're arguing with someone named "troll_god"...09:27
bubbangaorcist how you do recommend installing the java?09:28
eyequeuepvh:  he's about to go on /ignore09:28
Mixutwell, i have tried to uninstall ubuntu like thousands of times, but it just won't work.if i have completled installing windows it won't boot to windows, but shows me that one line: Error loading the operation system:(09:28
troll_godHrdwrBoB: your a fucking idiot first you say im wrong, which im not *debian does not require perl* than you say im smoking crack, then you relise im right and rather than admiting to it you just drop the conversation, very elegant09:28
bubbangai do't mind listening if you have a working method09:28
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bubbangainstall it from suns page or from debian?09:29
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eyequeuebubbanga:  i believe that's covered at ubuntuguide, /topic09:29
bubbangai followed that :)09:30
bubbangano worky worky :)09:30
Mixutumm...i want to install windows instead of ubuntu...sorry my english isn't so good09:30
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bubbangain the old build it worksk but 1.0 it doesn't09:30
eyequeueMixut:  using an partitioning program, such as fdisk, will accomplish what you want09:30
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eyequeueMixut:  that includes linux's fdisk, or microsoft's fdisk09:31
eyequeueany09:31
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Mixuti've heard about fdisk, but i can't make it work:(i don't know how to make a disk bootable.09:32
HwolfMixut, fdisk is not hard. Just run man fdisk in the terminal, and you can read all about it.09:33
whiprushcfdisk dude09:33
whiprushnormal fdisk is pain on a stick09:33
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Mixutwow, thank you i got it work...i'll check it and tell here if it won't work09:34
Hwolfwhiprush: fdisk is the greatest invention since castration, which someone will hopefully do on everyone who has spyware on his pc. :-P09:36
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mpnwm09:47
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Rake`Q - something broke with Synaptic - nothings showing up in the area which show packages, though it says down the bottom it's listing them. Any ideas?09:52
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arturazwhat's with user resolution not being saved when changed from system configuration?09:56
Twentyonemoin'09:56
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bubbangawhats the path to the C headers for the kernal so i can put vmware to it please?09:59
crimsunbubbanga: untar it in /usr/src10:00
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bubbangai did that10:01
bubbangathe vmware that is10:01
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bubbangai untared it and moved the dir to /usr/scr/10:01
crimsunbubbanga: so you can use /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.8.1/include10:02
bubbangaok let me try10:02
crimsunbubbanga: vmware requires the EXTRAVERSION muckery, though10:02
bubbangaso basically in a nutshell i'm wasting my time ?10:03
bubbangai installed this to /usr/loca/scr thats ok isn't it10:03
bubbangai not you said /usr/scr10:04
bubbangaerr now even10:04
crimsunyou just have to tell it the source explicitly10:04
mchasardhi , is there a tool to save configuration on a usb key for a live cd use ...ubuntu10:04
mchasardor gnoppix10:05
bubbangahmm i just don't see the include files10:05
FASTis vmware still on a trial basis ?10:05
crimsunbubbanga: they're in include/10:07
bubbanganot by default i just foudn it in synamptic10:07
bubbangainstalling now10:07
bubbangaand thanks10:08
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mchasardso for the configuration save please ?10:12
bubbangado i have to untar that file it placed in there10:13
bubbangathe bz2 file i now have a linux-source-2.6....bz2 file in /usr/src10:13
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shockmoin10:16
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bubbangacrimsun: when i point it to that dir it says the dir exist but doesn't contain any dir like "linux" or "asm" any idea how to correct this?10:21
crimsunbubbanga: uname -r10:22
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crimsunbubbanga: you need to modify EXTRAVERSION in the top-level Makefile and run ,,make prepare''10:23
crimsunbubbanga: also, search the forum for help on vmware10:23
crimsun(sorry, have to sleep)10:23
spliter_Can anybody tell me where can I see the results of Ubuntu's "Website Look'n'Feel Competition"?10:23
arturazwhat's with user resolution not being saved when changed from system configuration?10:25
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greengoHello everybody I was wondering if anyone here knew what enabling Universe in Synaptic. is supposed to do I'm using Ubuntu Linux10:27
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greengohello10:28
greengoAnybody here?10:29
shockofc10:29
shockuniverse are additional sources of stuff like kde10:29
shockhmpf10:29
troll_godgrepper: yar10:30
troll_godgrepper: im here10:30
troll_godgrepper: try 'sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list'10:30
troll_godthe very first one at the top of the list that starts with 'deb' not 'deb-src' add 'universe multiverse' to the end of the line10:31
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lightbadehi i tried everything listed in the ubuntu forum to get totem to play mp3 files, but it doesnt. HELP!!!10:35
shock?10:37
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Twentyoneis rythmbox compiled with ipod support ?10:40
Twentyone(ubuntu ackqge)10:40
seb128correct10:42
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mpnwhey, my Samba daemons arn't starting on bootup... it just halts10:51
mpnwcan someone help?10:51
Twentyonelook at the log message at startup.... if it stops, this means thre is an error somewhere (connection, config...)10:52
Twentyoneor try to start it by hand and see the error message10:53
Twentyoneand give us this message10:53
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mpnwi cant get in, cos it halts on startup10:54
mpnwat Starting Samba Daemons10:54
mpnwboot in rescue mode?10:54
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shastryhi all10:59
shastryhow to get the latest packages ?10:59
shastrybrb11:00
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Claushello... where can i find a 'warty to hoary' guide. I've managede to do the apt-get update part, but when I reboot it doesnt' start the gdm/ login screen11:12
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ClaudeAand i don't know how to become root??!!!?11:13
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Twentyonempnw: wel, try rebooting in rescue mode, yes...11:15
TwentyoneClaudeA: you can't "become" root with ubuntu... root account is disabled11:16
Twentyoneyou need to use the sudo command each time11:16
Twentyonesudo <yourcommand>11:16
Twentyoneto run the command as root11:16
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shock<Twentyone> ClaudeA: you can't "become" root with ubuntu... root account is disabled <--- or u do "sudo bash"11:17
shock;)11:17
mpnwin rescue mode, it boots fine and samba starts fine,11:17
Twentyoneshock: right.. but shhhhhhhhh ^^11:17
shock*g*11:17
mpnwbut still halts on normal bootup at starting samba11:17
Twentyoneshock: or even sudo su :)11:17
shockhrhr11:17
Twentyonempnw: so, maybe the samba configis bad.... and it hangs waiting indefinitely11:18
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mpnwsmb.conf looks fine11:18
Twentyonempnw: try to run samba in a console to see if it hangs an the eventual error11:19
Twentyonehum...11:19
mpnwi started samba in console11:19
mpnwand it started fine11:19
mpnwjust on startup it hangs11:19
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scizzompnw: you can validate the config11:21
ClaudeAshock, righto... but uh, how do I get gnome to run (I'm all BSD, so I know jack about ubuntu)11:21
scizzompnw: there is a command for that don't remember exactly the command though11:21
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TwentyoneClaudeA: bsd... hum... it's pretty different from linux :/11:22
mpnwtestparm?11:22
mpnwi tried that11:23
mpnwlooks fine11:23
ClaudeATwentyone, yes it is, but 'it just works' never mind that tho' i like ubuntu on my laptop, it seems all I need to get working is 'loading gnom [fail] '11:24
scizzompnw: are you sure that nmbd is started also?11:24
Twentyonehum11:24
TwentyoneClaudeA: are you using gdm as login ?11:24
ClaudeATwentyone, I should be, it's a clean install with 'hoary' in soures.list and then all upgrade from synaptics11:26
ClaudeArecap that it's a clean warty install which is then modded to hoary in sources.list11:26
ciocanelkeats: formateaza hardu' si punei windows.11:26
mpnwhow can i tell if nmbd is started?11:26
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ClaudeAshock, gdm isn't starting11:27
spiralhi11:28
shockhm11:28
shockwell... what does it say about starting GDM ?11:28
shockor do apt-get install --reinstall gdm11:28
TwentyoneClaudeA: I'm a little bit confused.... you know about bsd, but you are currently using ubuntu.. right ?11:29
shockmaybe it got screwed during upgrade?11:29
ClaudeATwentyone, yup. 'tis right...using FreeBSD as server and on my desktop, ubuntu is on my laptop.11:29
Twentyoneok :)11:30
TwentyoneI'm less confused :p11:30
ClaudeAshock, it says's [fail]  in the last line before login (just before gdm starts or the login appears)11:30
shockhm11:30
TwentyoneClaudeA: what error did you get when running gdm in a console ?11:30
jcarniedoes anyone have expericence with installing mythtv for a dvb card?11:30
shockcan u do a "startx" ClaudeA ?11:31
shocksee if x might be bungled?11:31
ClaudeAshino, startx doesn't work11:31
shockwhat does that say?11:31
shockwhen u run it11:31
ClaudeAafaik it goes from xfree86 to xorg on the update?11:31
ClaudeAdon't remember, but I can check, gotta reboot.11:32
shockshould if you have ubuntu-desktop installed11:32
spiralClaudeA: did you try "startx" with a normal account or root ?11:32
ClaudeAspiral, yup11:32
ClaudeAnormal11:32
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shockmaybe this weird thing about empty xorg.conf ?11:32
shockI had that effect on my desktop11:33
TwentyoneClaudeA: ubuntu is installed withx.org, not xfree11:33
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ClaudeATwentyone, warty is xfree afaik?11:33
shockno - warty installs xfree11:33
Twentyoneshock: right, I had one problem.. because of my mouse not plugged in11:33
shockhoary upgrades to xorg but keeps xfree in repos11:33
Twentyoneoh ok.. I'm wrong... sorry...11:34
ClaudeAwould a clean hoary install work? last ISO I triede didn't work11:34
mpnwsamba daemons still halting startup11:34
shockerm11:34
shockactually I think an upgraded system should work11:34
Twentyonempnw: weird11:34
shockdid your upgrade finish successfully?11:34
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shock(run apt-get dist-upgrade again amd see if anthing's missing)11:35
Twentyoneis hoary the next version, is like the SID version of debian.. an "unstable" distro11:35
ClaudeAshock; it sait that some settign weren't successfull, but nothing like xorg og xfree settign etc.11:36
newterany one have any issuse after the first install step.  It locks up when after the reboot, it brings you to the welcome screen when you do your base system configuration?11:36
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spiralClaudeA: try dist-upgrade again maybe11:37
spiralClaudeA: and check if you've got a "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"11:37
ClaudeAi'll give it a go.11:37
ClaudeABBL, reboot11:37
spiralClaudeA: and look at what X says when it fails to launch...11:37
spiralsee /var/log/Xorg*11:38
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fodcaadehi11:41
fodcaadeyou where11:41
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mpnw21: i did apt-get remove samba and it started11:42
TwentyoneOo11:42
Twentyonevery weird :p11:42
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mpnwyeah, now wondering whether to reinstall it11:44
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tuxJr_14hi11:51
Twentyonehi tuxJr_1411:52
tuxJr_14hi 2111:53
Twentyonempnw: well.. if you really don't need samba.. don't install it...11:53
tuxJr_14s/21/Twentyone/11:54
Twentyonethats ok :)11:54
Twentyonexchat recognised booth ;)11:54
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Twentyoneboth11:54
spiralany new about smart batteries gestion under hoary ?11:55
tuxJr_14thanks11:55
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tuxJr_14how!!??11:55
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spiralhmmm... I just found a spanish website explaining how to compile a kernel to handle a smartbattery for ubuntu12:01
spiralbut I don't speak spanish, and I'dd prefer if it was handled by the standard .deb kernel12:01
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spiraldoes anyone here know if it'll soon be possible ?12:01
spiralanyone about this smart battery problem ?12:04
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tuxJr_14is vim 7 developement version in hoary?12:05
tuxJr_14or warty?12:06
spiraltuxJr_14: not by default, at least... I query apt12:07
scizzoVim 6.3.061 is the current version12:07
spiraltuxJr_14:  6.3.58 on hoary12:07
scizzosounds like it is development all over...12:08
tuxJr_14thanks.12:08
tuxJr_14scizzo: please elaborate.12:09
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Cyph3rM0rphHI12:10
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scizzotuxJr_14: ?12:11
Cyph3rM0rphI have a question12:11
scizzoCyph3rM0rph: ask it then...12:11
Cyph3rM0rphIs the Ubunt also in a bootable CD avaible12:11
Cyph3rM0rph?12:12
scizzoCyph3rM0rph: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/download/12:12
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Cyph3rM0rphthnx now i see the live CD12:13
Cyph3rM0rphI'va watch over it12:13
Cyph3rM0rphthnx12:14
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mpnwi apt-get installed samba and it halted when starting12:15
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William_CainHello.12:16
mpnwhello12:16
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mpnwany ideas on samba halting problem?12:17
William_CainI have a problem with the "gnome-background-properties." It quits every time I enter it unless I delete the backgrounds.xml file.12:17
Twentyonespiral: I had to add the acpi and apm modules to compile in the kernel, to get the batteries and temperature etc.. working12:18
William_CainBut when I delete that file, I lose all the backgrounds I've listed, and have to add them again, upon when the program crashes anyway...12:18
Twentyonethat was on my debian sid.. I think it should be the same under ubuntu12:18
spiralTwentyone: hmmm... in this case, it's a specific problem with "Smart batteries"12:18
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Twentyonespiral: maybe12:19
spiraland smb here, mdz maybe... Told me that this should be supported natively in hoary if I were lucky12:19
Twentyoneok.. lnch time :)12:19
mpnw21: my mail is flooded with: Segfault in Samba12:19
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mpnwhave a good lunch!:)12:19
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Twentyonethanks ;)12:20
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niptacI noticed ubuntu doesnt seem to play any mp3's or nothing12:26
klaymniptac: you need to fiddle first (as with every linux distro), go to www.ubuntuguide.org12:26
niptacthe music player also doesnt play any radio songs12:26
mjr/last restric12:26
mjrnip, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats/12:27
William_Cain Why doesn't "gnome-background-properties" support more than a few wallpapers in its list? It works well to add 20 wallpapers, but if you close it and open it again, it crashes.12:27
niptacohh I see maybe I need to change permissions?12:27
William_CainHowever, if the list only contains, say, five wallpapers, everything works fine.12:27
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HrdwrBoBWilliam_Cain: I beleive that's an already reported bug12:28
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HrdwrBoBcheck bugzilla.ubuntu.co12:28
HrdwrBoBcheck bugzilla.ubuntu.com12:28
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William_CainOk, sorry, I didn't know that.12:30
William_CainDo you think they will fix it soon?12:30
niptacthanks12:30
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Se7hquestion12:33
Se7hwhat can make a java app not to start ?12:33
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shockwrong JRE? broken java-app12:34
shock?12:34
shockbe more specific =)12:34
Se7hno not that12:35
Se7hhmm12:35
Se7hfor ie12:35
Se7hmy azureus12:35
Se7hor some other app12:35
Se7hdoesn't matter12:35
Se7hthey start normaly12:35
Se7hfor from time to time12:35
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Se7hazureus (that's always on) shutsdown12:36
Se7hand every java app wont start12:36
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Se7hi cant figure it out why12:36
scoonSe7h, for ie ?12:36
odysseyhi i was wondering how i find out which package provides ppmmake?12:36
Se7hie = example12:36
scoonSe7h, ah12:36
Se7hlol12:36
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scoonSe7h, open up a terminal and run one of the problem apps, see if you can find a clue there.12:37
Se7hbut it affects all apps12:38
Se7hThe java class is not found:  org/gudy/azureus2/ui/swt/Main12:38
Se7hAzureus TERMINATED.12:38
Se7hand for mercury: "Segmentation fault"12:38
scoonSe7h, are you using the jre or jdk ?\12:39
Se7hif i reboot the sys12:39
Se7hit will all be alright12:39
Se7hbut i was trying to avoid rebooting12:39
scoonSe7h, so this isn't really like winhell so there are only a few times when the M$ way is appropriate.12:39
scoonSe7h, are you jdk or jre ?12:40
Se7hcant really remember what i installed12:40
Se7hgimme a sec12:40
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Se7hjre12:40
scoonSe7h, did you apt it or another way ?12:40
Se7hno12:40
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Se7hits not the first time this happens12:41
scoonSe7h, so another way.12:41
Se7hif i keep my pc turned on for a long time12:41
Se7hthis happens12:41
scoonSe7h, is java in your path ?12:41
Se7herm12:41
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Se7hyes12:41
scoonecho $PATH12:41
Se7hthere's not problem with java or the app's12:41
scoonSe7h, ok then.  Have you check out top and see if there are any runaway procs.12:42
Se7hHMM12:42
Se7hWELL..12:42
Se7hIT SHOULD BE THERE12:42
Se7hBUT ITS NOT12:42
Se7hups, sorry for the caps12:42
scoonSe7h, also, what happens if you try and sudo one of the javas that are not working ?12:43
scoonSe7h, are you warty or hoary ?12:43
Se7hwarty12:43
scoonSe7h, so java is not in your path.12:43
shockthis fam replacement is as crappy as fam was *grml*12:43
Se7hwith or without sudo12:43
Se7hits the same12:43
scoonSe7h, without preferably12:44
Se7hy12:44
Se7hjust checking12:44
scoonSe7h, what happens if you java -version in a terminal ?12:44
Ngshock: gamin? what's up with it?12:44
Se7hjava -version ?12:44
Se7hcommand not found12:45
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rockshockneed help12:45
shockwe all do12:45
shockbtw12:45
shockneed a life12:45
rockshockhehe12:45
shocknice nick =)12:45
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rockshockwell, my cd boots into DR-DOS and i cant figure it out12:45
jirwinhello12:46
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rockshockim gonna install this thing on my pc12:46
jirwinI was wondering if someone could tell me how to run in CLI only12:46
shocker....12:46
shockok12:46
Se7hscoon well ty anyway12:46
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scoonSe7h, that could be a problem there. you should have java in your path.12:46
Se7hy12:46
Se7hits wierd tho12:46
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Se7hcause when i reboot this12:47
Ngjirwin: you want the machine to boot up and not start X?12:47
Se7hit'll all be good12:47
Se7hlol12:47
scoonSe7h, what about just logging out and back in again.12:47
jirwinng: that is correct12:47
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Se7hscoon think i've tried that12:47
Se7hand no good12:47
Se7hbut i'll try one more time12:47
scoonk12:48
shock<rockshock> well, my cd boots into DR-DOS and i cant figure it out <--- describe your steps and the result a little more detailed please12:48
Ngjirwin: the correct way is to use update-rc.d to tell gdm to stop at runlevel 2, the easy way is to delete /etc/rc2.d/S99gdm12:48
mpnwcan anyone help me with samba/printer problems?12:48
jirwinNg: which way would you suggest?12:49
rockshockWell, i start up my PC , and boots from the cd where i burned the iso file...then something called Caldera DR-DOS starts up...12:49
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Ngjirwin: personally I would just nuke the S99gdm symlink, but if you can be bothered to read the update-rc.d man page and do it correctly you will be a better person for it ;)12:49
jirwinok thank you :)12:50
jirwinis there anyway to load in X when it starts...but change the runlevel?12:50
mpnwi try to print from ubuntu to a printer (hp 3650) connected to winXP - all i get is Remote Downlevel Document appearing in the spooler (on winXP) and nothing else happens12:50
Ngjirwin: how do you mean?12:51
jirwinor even better...if I nuke that symlink, can I still start X?12:51
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jirwinNg: I have a girlfriend that still uses my computer, and won't appreciate the CLI12:51
jirwinNg: but I am immersing myself in the environment to learn it12:51
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Ngjirwin: ah, well you can use both at the same time, so you could have it boot up and start X, then hit Ctrl-Alt-F1 and you'll get the virtual consoles, she just has to hit Ctrl-Alt-F7 to get the terminal X is running on12:52
mpnwi try to print from ubuntu to a printer (hp 3650) connected to winXP - all i get is Remote Downlevel Document appearing in the spooler (on winXP) and nothing else happens, anyone?12:52
jirwinNg: That is Perfect!...thanks12:52
jirwinNg: what do you think of my idea of forcing myself to learn everything from the console?12:53
Ngjirwin: only a little crazy ;)12:53
Ngjirwin: it should give you a decent understanding of how the system works if you poke around enough though12:54
jirwinaren't we all a little crazy though?12:54
jirwinthat is what I hoped for12:54
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jirwinone more question...is there a key binding for screen to move to the next screen...12:54
jirwinor do I have to detach and reattach?12:54
shock<rockshock> Well, i start up my PC , and boots from the cd where i burned the iso file...then something called Caldera DR-DOS starts up... <--- what cd exactly did u burn ?12:55
shockO_o12:55
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mpnwi try to smbclient, then print from ubuntu to a printer (hp 3650) connected to winXP - all i get is Remote Downlevel Document appearing in the spooler (on winXP) and nothing else happens, anyone?12:57
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MixutCan anyone tell me how to make a disk bootable?01:03
mpnwwear it on your foot01:06
mpnwbootable for what purpose?01:06
jbaileyMixut: CD or Harddrive, and on what type of computer?01:07
Mixutfloppy01:07
Mixuti know i'm a noob but they told me on another forum that i have to make a floppy bootable to use fdisk01:08
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EvolutionRAt wwww.Gnome-look.org, which one is the Coolest Icon Themes ?01:10
shockgnome-default01:10
shock;)01:10
EvolutionRLOL @_001:10
shockor keep searchin on google for xi-GNOME01:10
shockhttp://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=1612601:11
shockoh its on gnome-look.org01:11
shock=)01:11
shockpretty nice01:11
shockbut very... er... stylish01:11
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EvolutionRshock: I've just saw the XI-Gnome well is kewl, u using it?01:12
klaymClearlooks is good01:12
shocknot anymore... preferring default right now01:12
shocksince the new trash icon in ubuntu its.... nice and modest01:13
shockhas a wonderfull "solid" feel to it... the default01:13
shock:)01:13
EvolutionRand I think another one is kewl over here http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=1977501:13
klaymyea and the mouse is modest01:13
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EvolutionREdge Icons!01:13
arthur__hi there...01:13
EvolutionR:)01:13
shockyeah01:13
arthur__I'm new to Ubuntu..01:13
shockbut since I have white background in nautilus i dislike icons that are too bright01:14
shockwelcome01:14
shock=)01:14
jbaileyMixut: The trick with a floppy on i386-class machines is usually to just dd it to the floppy.  It should start reading from track 0 and just go.01:14
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EvolutionRI like Edge Icons it resemble more like Mac Icons!01:14
arthur__thank you shock.01:14
shock:)01:14
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jbaileyMixut: What are you putting ont he floppy?01:14
arthur__shock, could you tell why you use Ubuntu and not other distro?01:15
Mixutumm..sry my english is bad, putting floppy on?01:15
klaymEvolutionR: after installing the Edge theme with fitting wallpaper, your monitor will become like a lightbulb01:15
HrdwrBoBMixut: whoever told you to use fdisk on the floppy was probably smoking crack; fdisk works on partition tables and your floppy doesn't have one01:15
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EvolutionRklaym: meaning too bright?01:16
klaymyes01:16
shockyes - great gnome support, great distro fro running on a powerbook, great community (unlike debian channels here u actually DO get help)01:16
shock:)01:16
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jbaileyMixut: What are you trying to put on the floppy?01:16
shockseveral very good reasons01:16
shocknever got the hang of YDL - its servers are too slow01:16
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jbaileyMixut: Usually you have to boot software on there that is designed to boot the floppy.  (Linux loader or whatever).  The floppy is automatically bootable.01:16
eruinI so wish you could set the gnome panel window list to a percentage size01:17
shockand, arthur, U basically get a debian system (by far the best choice) with more focus on the "is good for daily use" ;)01:17
eruingotta love debian01:17
eruin:)01:17
EvolutionR<klaym> u say clear looks is good which url website?01:17
arthur__:-)01:18
arthur__nice reasons..01:18
eruinEvolutionR: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=1952701:18
shockwell there are more01:18
arthur__have you ever tried gentoo?01:18
shockyes01:18
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arthur__and what about it:01:18
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eruingentoo is great too, but compiling more than what I track svn isn't my cup of tea01:19
eruin:D01:19
shockgentoo is nice... but since i come from debian I am an apt-get update; apt-get upgrade addict01:19
jbaileyMixut: You need to give more information on what you're trying to do for me to help you.01:19
Mixuthmm...ok, i guess fdisk does'nt help then:(01:19
EvolutionReruin : thanks found it01:19
shockand thats BAD when u are running gentoo01:19
shock*g*01:19
eruinshock: not a dist-upgrade addict?01:19
Mixuti'm trying to put fdisk program on floppy.01:19
TaruminoHey. I have a problem. I'm trying to install an IDE for Python, but it requires the latest wxpython (2.5). Only 2.4 is available in the Ubuntu repositories01:19
eruinor "smart upgrade" as it's apparently dubbed these days01:19
arthur__I foud portage a great update tool, but like eruin said...01:20
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shock<eruin> shock: not a dist-upgrade addict? <--- ok ok ok... u caught me =)01:20
shockI used to run debian experimental =)01:20
shock*fg*01:20
TaruminoAnyone know where I can get the latest wx libraries from? I've tried compiling from source, but it won't see gtk (though gtk is installed)01:20
EvolutionRThe clear looks ok...but how bout the My computer, trash can icons how is it look like? not look like the default gnome? <--bored!01:20
arthur__it has to compile the whole system..01:20
eruinTarumino: libwxgtk2.5.3-python ?01:20
eruinthat's in hoary01:20
eruinin addition to 2.401:20
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Se7hoh well01:21
EvolutionReruin: The clear looks ok...but how bout the My computer, trash can icons how is it look like? not look like the default gnome? <--bored!01:21
arthur__but, shock, does apt-get get the latest stable packages?01:21
Taruminoeruin: I've got hoary01:21
shockapt-get installs what u got choosen as a repos01:21
Taruminoin my repositories list01:21
shockif u pick just warty - its the latest stable01:22
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arthur__hum..01:22
arthur__I see..01:22
Mixutmy problem is that i can't install windows because MBR is overwritten so if my windows install completes it monitors me these lines: Error loading operating system01:22
arthur__well, thank you guys.. I'll keep trying with it...01:22
shockif u pick hoary its ... well... something in between debian-testing and debian-experimental I'd categorize01:22
shock:P01:22
arthur__just divided about Ubuntu and gentooo..01:22
arthur__lol01:22
umarmungEvolutionR, clearlooks is a gtk-engine, it will not change your icons01:23
arthur__just a note: I believe gentoo is faster..01:23
eruinarthur__: they're both rock-solid imo.. you've just got to decide between source and binary01:23
arthur__if my opinion matters..01:23
eruinarthur__: and it is.. slightly01:23
TaruminoThough, it seems I only had it in as dbn-src, not the deb. Just changed, will see if helps01:23
eruindepending on your optimization flags and architecture01:23
arthur__Yes, I see..01:23
EvolutionRklaym: What if I installed the Edge Icons, I want to keep the icons unchange but only change the desktop wallpaper?01:23
eruinon my computer gentoo doesn't make much of a difference performance-wise01:23
arthur__why in YOUR computer?01:24
eruinbut on my old it really was much faster than the debian I had installed01:24
arthur__which one is it?01:24
eruinit's a barton2500,512ddr400, etc01:24
EvolutionReruin: I've heard when someone installed Gentoo I gonna take 2 days to compile it?01:24
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eruinEvolutionR: never01:24
EvolutionR1 day?01:25
shockdepends on the system and what u install01:25
eruinEvolutionR: ~ 9 hours here01:25
eruinfor a gnome desktop01:25
EvolutionRwow01:25
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SchaapOk ,how to i make samba service start at bootup?01:25
EvolutionRI am noob , that's too long for a newbie like me :( better stick with Ubuntu Hoary :P01:25
EvolutionRI fallen in love with apt-get !01:26
Schaapif you are a n00b, i wouldt advise a bet OS01:26
eruinEvolutionR: I'd recommend getting both and see what you prefer01:26
Schaapbeta01:26
eruinmy choice is hoary by far01:26
HrdwrBoBI would recommend leaving gentoo to masochists01:26
arthur__The point is I used Conectiva which used apt-get to manage rpms...01:26
SchaapAnd why is Hoary better then Warty?01:26
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EvolutionRWhat if I installed the Edge Icons, I want to keep the icons unchange but only change the desktop wallpaper?01:26
arthur__I thought it was a great distro until I've found the others..01:26
eruinapt+rpm isn't quite apt+deb01:26
eruin;>01:26
arthur__including Slack 10..01:26
ClaudeAshock, hey, back.. I found out how to do it01:27
arthur__the nowadays distros impressed me..01:27
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arthur__most of them are great..01:27
HrdwrBoBeruin: apt-get is as good as your repository01:27
arthur__guys, one more question01:27
eruinI still managed to run into rpmhell with fc301:27
eruinI'll bet that's more usererror than rpmerror though;)01:27
arthur__I am trying to decide which distro to use on a laptop..01:28
eruinubuntu or fedora01:28
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EvolutionReruin: if use FC3 to apt-get update/install/remove, yum update/install/remove ...will make mess of the systems?01:28
arthur__gentoo, ubuntu or fedora core 3.01:28
Schaapany one willing to tell me the answer to my question?01:28
ClaudeAarthur__, ubuntu is one of the better distro's for the lap's methinks01:28
eruinEvolutionR: no01:28
eruinEvolutionR: only if you run the test releases :)01:29
arthur__what is methinks? sorry about the English..01:29
EvolutionRarthur__: if u want user friedly Distro, I suggest Suse Linux 9.2 Pro, or FC301:29
jbaileyMixut: Hmm.  I don't know how to restore a windows MBR.  All the stuff I've done has been for restoring grub partitions.01:29
ClaudeAmethinks = I think so01:29
eruinarthur__: I'd recommend going for ubuntu and upgrading to hoary01:29
EvolutionROKIE01:29
arthur__EvolutionR, Ubuntu is a user friendly distro for me.01:29
arthur__what is hoary?01:30
eruinubuntu is the most userfriendly distro imo01:30
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eruinhoary is the next release of ubuntu01:30
arthur__jbailey, do you have any bootable floppy to go to windows?01:30
eruinaka development release.. think of it as debian sid with ubuntu patch-goodness ;)01:30
jbaileyarthur__: I run on a powerpc box now. =)   So, no. =)01:30
Mixut(jbailey):ok then, thank's for helping anyway:)01:30
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arthur__hum...01:31
EvolutionRarthur__: Yeah Ubuntu is friendly distro, hopefully it doesnt let u down at the moment....I quite like ubuntu Hoary but not warthy....I've used FC3, Suse 9.2 Pro, <---ok but Mandrake 10 . 1 <---is not good/ Crash often!01:31
eruinwoot, I have clearlooks 0.1 and they've released 0.2.2?01:31
arthur__sorry, I believe I can't help.01:31
arthur__Evol, you can download Suse images?01:32
arthur__I never managed to get there..01:32
EvolutionRarthur__: u mean the iso?01:32
arthur__yes..01:32
eruinEvolutionR: mandrake has never been quite usable01:32
EvolutionRarthur__: if you want the Suse 9.2 Pro can....01:32
EvolutionReruin: Mandrake 10.1 really sucks01:33
EvolutionRsorry to say that01:33
EvolutionRis true!01:33
arthur__eruin, Evol, that's interesting because here in Brazil Mandrake is the top download registered in a famous download site here.01:33
arthur__it seems new users like it very much..01:33
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eruinthat's because for some reason people keep recommending that, suse or fedora01:34
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arthur__yes..01:34
arthur__I've downloaded Suse LiveEval CD01:34
EvolutionRarthur__: in Linux Format Magazine for January 2005 The Top Ten Distro is Mandrake because their're installation user friendly...etc / but not stable / crash!01:34
arthur__hum..01:34
eruinand that, along with the fact that most people just blindly recommend what they themselves use, gets you high numbers01:35
arthur__Suse seemed to be very interesting and robust..01:35
EvolutionRMine I list the Top ten Distro???????? by Linux Format Mag?01:35
EvolutionRjust few of them01:35
eruinI haven't used suse since 6.2 or something01:35
TheX_Hi guys; I got a short question ! Will ubuntu work smoothly on a system like : Pentium 166, 24 RAM, 2 GB HDD..01:36
arthur__I wanted to use Debian for its philosophy..01:36
arthur__but never liked it..01:36
arthur__like Woody01:36
arthur__and Sarge..01:36
eruingrmble permission denied...01:36
arthur__I've got Sarge installed here..01:36
eruinbrb01:36
EvolutionR1st Mandrake  2nd Redhat  3rd Suse  4th Debian 4th Yellow Dog 6th Gentoo  "9th Ubuntu"  <------01:36
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arthur__this Ubuntu seems to put in a practice way the Debian's philosophy..01:37
EvolutionRubuntu scores 9th place!01:37
EvolutionRHopefully with the stable release will score to top 501:37
zeedoEvolutionR: `thats excellent going for the age of the distro01:37
William_CainI have came across something quite annoying.01:37
thenukewhen was the hoary coming btw?01:37
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arthur__and how can I upgrade to hoary to run on a laptop?01:38
EvolutionRzeedo: :)01:38
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thenukearthur__: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#upgradewartytohoary01:39
TheX_Hi guys; I got a short question ! Will ubuntu work smoothly on a system like : Pentium 166, 24 RAM, 2 GB HDD..01:39
EvolutionRarthur__ : change the /etc/apt/sources.list  change the work 'warthy' to hoary'  do a apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade01:39
William_CainWhen I first installed Ubuntu, graphical operations like drawing the screen saver ran at about three frames per second. I then installed the fire-gl drivers, and everything ran excellent. Today, even though I still have the drivers, I get like three frames per second on the screen savers agaon...01:39
eruinTheX_: not if you're talking gnome desktop01:39
arthur__thank you the nuek.01:39
arthur__nuke*01:39
TheX_eruin, ithought about fluxbox01:40
eruinTheX_: that might work01:40
William_CainI've even tried reinstalling them, which is quite a mess itself, because X won't start with uninstalled drivers, so I had to fumble around in the console not remembering the name of the drivers to install.01:40
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TaruminoThanks for the explanation of the Ubuntu repository system. Busy installing latest wx now.01:40
arthur__Hey TheX_01:40
kayo9th is awesome for such a young distro, I hope it stays away from graphical intalls tough01:40
arthur__I've installed Slack 10 on a Pentium 100 24 ram 999mb HDD... running xfce401:41
eruingraphical installs are the way to go01:41
arthur__it is slow like a sick cow..01:41
eruinas long as I can keep my cli, everything's ok01:41
arthur__fluxbox runs good..01:41
thenukearthur__: :) If I may suggest, you could try damn small linux if you want to get best out of old pc's01:42
eruinyeh, a machine like that is about decent enough to run a bnc or something ;P01:42
thenukearthur__: www.damnsmalllinux.org .. that uses also fluxbox01:42
arthur__does it has a good graphical environment or window manager?01:42
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TheX_arthur__ ?01:43
TheX_oh ok,01:43
arthur__hey, thenuke, does it runs Firefox???01:44
thenukearthur__: sure01:44
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arthur__how could it be???01:45
arthur__impressive!01:45
thenukebut I think that you must download it separately01:45
thenukefrom the damnsmallorg site01:45
arthur__I see..01:46
arthur__hey, have not configured my root password in Ubuntu..01:46
thenukeanyways, great distro, I have not yet found better for my p100-p200 machines01:46
arthur__is there a standart root passwd?01:46
arthur__thenuke, but does it run smootly?01:46
thenukearthur__: nope, there is no root password, and you do not really need it but if you want to, you can have it01:47
mpnwi need help with printer sharing01:47
thenukearthur__: on my comps atleast, yes, but I have more memory than you :I I have 64megs01:47
arthur__but how the security is maitained?01:47
mpnwanyone avaliable?01:47
shockanyone else here like "lock stock and..." ?01:47
thenukearthur__: you can try it off the cd, and then install it to HD if you think you like it01:47
shock*g*01:47
arthur__sorry, about being boring with these questions, but does dsl runs on a p100 64mb like ubuntu runs in your main pc?01:48
arthur__my p100 does not boot from cd..01:48
thenukearthur__: I don't know what you mean by maintaining security?  but if you need to do something as a root in ubuntu, you can use sudo <command>  or sudo -s -H to get root shell01:48
William_CainIs 2.6.10 belonging to Hoary? I fiddled with the apt list and it appeared.01:49
arthur__but I asks my password thenuke01:49
mpnwhello... can someone help with printer sharing?01:49
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thenukearthur__: obviously ~3GHz / 512MB PC runs a bit faster than DSL on a p100 :)  but it is very usable on these p100 too01:49
thenukefirefox is a bit heavy browser though, opera is more lighter01:50
mpnwhello....01:50
nevyn?01:50
scizzofirefox heavy?01:50
arthur__thenuke, I mean an analogy between dsl/p100 and ubuntu/your main pc.01:50
scizzoopera light?01:50
arthur__no dsl on your main pc..01:50
thenukescizzo: yes, if you use it on p10001:50
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thenukescizzo: scizzo I have compared it to opera 6.1201:50
fwiffoWilliam_Cain, yes Hoary runs 2.6.10 atm01:50
mpnwhello... can someone help with printer sharing?01:51
nevynumm a p100 can flood any dsl connection availible.01:51
arthur__mpnw, what do you want?01:51
arthur__do you use cups?01:51
mpnwno smb01:51
mpnwtrying to print to a windows printer01:51
mpnwif i try smbclient //winxpbox/printername01:52
mpnwthen it connects01:52
mpnwand if i try print something01:52
mpnwthen it comes up with01:52
mpnwRemote Downlevel Document01:52
mpnwappearing in the windows spooler01:52
arthur__hum...01:52
thenukearthur__: well, I meant that you cant compare ubuntu or something on a highend PC  and some old crap hardware with lightweight os ;)01:52
mpnwand that locks up the whole printing01:52
mpnw(it wont print)01:52
arthur__I see..01:52
mpnwif i try and add the printer through the printer wizard01:52
thenukehighend pc will always be faster :P but DSL runs pretty smoothly still01:52
arthur__mpnw__ wait just a minute..01:53
mpnwit can't print wither01:53
mpnwokay01:53
arthur__HEY GUYS, ANYONE KNOW ABOUT PRINTER SHARING WITH SAMBA???01:53
arthur__I never done this before...01:53
arthur__It's urgent!01:53
scizzoarthur__: stop using upper case letters when doing that01:54
fwiffompnw, have you tried add01:54
scizzowe can see lower case letters also01:54
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fwiffompnw, printer in gnome?01:54
scizzocould you put the printer configuration that samba is using on the net?01:54
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William_CainSo... Will running 2.6.10 imply that I'm running Hoary?01:55
willhow can i check out swap file usage01:55
William_CainIs that everything I have to do to 'upgrade'?01:56
fwiffoWilliam_Cain, no01:56
arthur__scizzo, sorry about that. Mpnw has the problem..01:56
scizzoWilliam_Cain: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GuideToHoary01:56
arthur__and he is asking that continously, and I can't help..01:56
fwiffoWilliam_Cain, check the wiki, there is a guide to upgrading01:56
mpnwadd??01:56
arthur__I really thought no one was paying attention to him.01:56
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arthur__mpnw, could you talk to scizzo?01:56
arthur__scizzo, could you help him?01:56
Twentyonehop01:57
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scizzompnw: could you do what I asked before?01:57
fwiffoWilliam_Cain, however, remember that Hoary is still in development and is not completely stable01:57
William_CainI'm just testing.01:57
William_CainThanks a lot for the info.01:58
arthur__guys.. it was a real pleasure to know you really are active here..01:58
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arthur__thank you a lot..01:59
scizzompnw: not in private01:59
arthur__and once more, scizzo, sorry, for that.01:59
arthur__see you..01:59
tabmoWwhen i boot the install cd on my laptop the screen constantly flashes, anyway to fix this?01:59
scizzompnw: just put the section that has the printer stuff configured on a site or something and then tell us the address01:59
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Rake`hey people - I'm having a problem with synaptic - the space where the list of packages is shown is empty, though it says it's displaying them. anyone know what i broke now?02:01
terrywhats the repository for ubuntu universe?? Is that what they call it??02:04
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mpnwok02:05
fwiffoRake`, have you chosen Sections + All in the left part of the window?02:06
Rake`Yep.02:07
William_CainI'm having problems with slow drawing of graphics. I have a Radeon 9700 card.02:07
fwiffoRake`, refreshed your package list?02:07
Rake`Yep.02:07
Rake`I see a big white nothing.02:07
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fwiffoRake`, and it refreshes your repositories properly?02:08
William_CainI have installed the proper drivers, and it worked well at first, but suddenly things went slow again02:08
Rake`I believe so, yes02:08
William_Cain.*02:08
fwiffoRake`, what happens when refreshing?02:08
Rake`Downloads / compares lists or whatever it does, window closes, statusbar says "Building dependancy tree" then it goes back to how it was02:09
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floschhi02:11
fwiffoRake`, are you sure you have your repositories set up properly?02:11
Rake`It updates from them without error02:12
Rake`I can do a search and it'll say for instance, "17 packages listed" ... so I think the list of packages is fine. it just doesnt display them for some odd reason.02:13
fwiffook, that seems odd yes02:13
Rake`keep in mind im a linux idiot and i probably broke something.02:14
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fwiffoRake`, perhaps some filter is enabled02:14
Rake`Last time it worked i was trying to install some packages relating to samba/smb.02:14
Rake`Hmm ..02:15
fwiffoRake`, how about if you choose Status + Not Installed?02:16
Rake`im not sure how to sue these filters, though i havnt played with them before02:17
Rake`should i just delete the filters, or?02:18
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BenZoranyone here know of some software for windows than can read ext3?02:19
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pecaBenZor: uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/explore2fs.htm02:20
BenZorta02:20
pecaor uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/ext2ifs.htm02:21
fwiffoRake`, no no, just press the Status button in the bottom left02:21
fwiffoRake`, and then choose Not Installed in the left part of the window02:21
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LinforcerHey, a friend of mine just installed ubuntu, and he was wondering how he could get his cheap-O brand tablet to work. Anyone have any cleus? All I can find about is wacom.:(02:23
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Rake`fwiffo - stil nothing02:24
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ZellSFCan anyone help me? I need to auto mount my USB harddisk on startup...02:24
BenZorRake`- omg irc.!02:24
DaRyNmy system keeps hanging on Starting hotplug subsystem, any ideas?02:24
Rake`BenZor - omg irc.!02:24
fwiffoRake`, ok, then I have no idea what it might be02:24
ZellSF...?02:25
Rake`like i said, synaptic says how many packages are being displayed according to the filters and such .... just doesnt show the list. nor is there any of the top boxes which say 'Package name' etc02:25
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fwiffoRake`, ok :/02:26
Rake`hmm, thanks anyway02:26
mpnwhttp://dave.ozweb.nu/printer/02:26
mpnwis my problem02:27
mpnwcan anyone help?02:27
aquariusI have a box running a not-very-frequently-updated Debian testing; it has mostly not been updated since about June 2004, but a few packages have been installed since then. Can I upgrade it to warty with the Ubuntu CD?02:27
ZellSFI have a problem with my external USB harddisk, /dev/sda1 isn't created before I plug it out and back in again :(02:28
ZellSFIs there a way to fix that?02:28
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mpnwhttp://dave.ozweb.nu/printer/02:30
mpnwanyone?02:30
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Tarumino*sigh* Ok, I've got the latest wxPython, but it's in the python2.4 site-packages, and python2.3 is the default at the moment02:31
mpnwprinter problem, need assistance:  http://dave.ozweb.nu/printer/02:31
mpnwplease:)02:31
ZellSFmpnw: is Windows sharing the printer?02:32
TaruminoHow do I change what happens when I type "python" at the command prompt02:32
mpnwyes02:32
ZellSFhmm, and the "guest" user of Windows is enabled?02:32
Tarumino(from loading python2.3 to loading python2.4: both are installed)02:32
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ZellSF(or might as well ask, can you connect to your printer from another Windows computer?)02:32
mpnwyes02:32
mpnwthat works fine02:32
mpnwim not sure about "guest" tho02:33
scizzompnw: I thought you where trying to share it from samba?02:33
mpnwi have "everyone"02:33
ZellSFAnd you've installed all the Samba client stuff...?02:33
mpnwno... using samba to access it02:33
mpnwyes02:33
mpnwfile sharing works fine02:33
scizzoGAH!02:33
ZellSFso, you can connect to a Windows shared directoy?02:34
ZellSF*directory02:34
spiraldoes anyone here know if the testing version of OOO2 will be updated in hoary ?02:34
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mpnwyes02:35
mpnwconnect to a shared directory02:35
mpnwcan even connect to the printer through smbclient (as the site says)02:35
mpnwbut that shows up that annoying undeletable document02:35
ZellSFThat's... weird :/02:36
ZellSFTried turning Windows firewall off? :P02:36
mpnwyes02:36
mpnwdidnt do anything02:36
mpnwsame prob with it on and off02:36
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ZellSFhmm. *Hate* Synaptic Package Manager02:37
nevynoh?02:37
ZellSFI try to uninstall Totem, and it uninstalls Gnome :/02:37
ZellSFOr not Gnome, but the ubuntu desktop :/02:37
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gabauganybody else get "Error: failed to initialize HAL!" on login to Gnome on Hoary?02:38
nevynubuntu-desktop depends on totem02:38
ZellSFYes, but I want do install the *xine* version of Totem :/02:38
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ZellSFBecause Totem can't open files :/02:38
gabaugZellSF: I don't think it'll really hurt you too much not to have ubuntu-desktop installed, you'll just miss out on a little of it's meta goodness02:39
SuSE|UsERHello, where can i find libcrypto.dylib?02:39
ZellSFWhy can't Totem play files? :/02:39
linux_mafiaanyone else using hoary had devices dissapear from "places -> computer"?02:39
SuSE|UsERZellSF, you need w32 codecs02:40
gabauglinux_mafia: yeah, they used to auto show when plugged in (two diff. usb drives) ... are you getting a HAL error on Gnome login?02:40
ZellSFAnd what is the package name for those?02:40
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SuSE|UsERw32codecs <- ;)02:41
linux_mafiagabaug, nah my dvdrom and burner not showing up anymore, device manager is not working, although i have no error on login02:41
SuSE|UsERZellSF, add this to your repository : ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ stable main02:41
ZellSFboth deb and deb-src ?02:42
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linux_mafiagabaug, i think its this line from my dmesg : PCI: Using ACPI for IRQ routing02:42
SuSE|UsERZellSF, only deb02:42
ZellSFOk... trying that now02:43
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ZellSF<ZellSF> I have a problem with my external USB harddisk, /dev/sda1 isn't created before I plug it out and back in again :(02:44
ZellSFAnyone?02:44
mpnwhttp://dave.ozweb.nu/printer/smb.conf02:44
mpnwis the samba config02:44
ZellSFif you have problems connecting to another server, I don't think your server config matters much :/02:45
mpnwumm02:45
mpnwwhat do i need then?02:45
mpnwwhat do u need then?02:45
ZellSFI don't know, I probably can't help you anyways. I know nothing about ubuntu :/02:46
mpnwscizzo?02:46
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SuSE|UsERMaybe someone know where can i find libcrypto.dylib?02:49
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websiteSuSE|UsER, i don't know, but if you use ubuntu open the repo to universe and search it with aptitude or sinaptic02:51
aquariusCan I use the warty release CD to upgrade a Debian testing box directly to warty?02:52
mlambieI'm looking at replacing the last windows machine in my house with Ubuntu (I already use it on my laptop, and g/friends desktop). This machine runs a java bit torrent client. I currently use VNC to connect, add any torrents, and disconnect. Does a linux VNC server offer the same capabailities as the windows server? Or can I use XDMCP (this appears to kill any open apps when i log out, as you'd expect)02:52
aquariusmlambie: yes. See x11vnc.02:52
snowblinkhi - want to figure out if this is just me or a thunderbird issue. Anyone using thunderbird got a minute?02:52
mlambieaquarius: thanks for the pointer02:52
SuSE|UsERwebsite, of course im using Ubuntu but there are no such package02:53
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websiteSuSE|UsER, have you opened your repo to universe section?02:53
aquariusmlambie: there's also vino, a VNC server for gnome, which might be even better.02:53
tritiumjust what I was about to suggest02:54
mlambieaquarius: thanks (again) :)02:54
SuSE|UsERwebsite, of course i did it , i'm not such big newbie ;)02:54
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websiteis it enought that i run "dpkg-reconfigure locale" and set locales to change language to my ubuntu?02:54
maggiact 102:54
mpnwPaused: ERRDOS - ERRbadaccess (Invalid open mode.) opening remote file Test Page02:54
mpnwim now getting that02:54
mpnwwhen printing test page02:55
websiteSuSE|UsER, if you don't find it try using google, i don't know anything about it02:55
SuSE|UsERwebsite, i'm trying :)02:55
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mlambiedoes anyone know how to enable XDMCP in the login chooser? I am sure I've seen it before, but it's not ther ein the session windows anymore for me02:56
maggi!help02:56
maggiexit02:56
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mlambiei have enabled XDMCP on the target machine, and can connect with xnest, but i don't get an XDMCP option from the login screen02:57
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a-x-e-lhye all, Is anyone have already install Ubuntu 4.10 on a Compaq Armada 1592DT ?02:58
SuSE|UsERmlambie, i founded XDMCP option in login screen setup02:58
Falstiuswhat does acpi=off apm=off really do?  Obviously some of these functions still work (power off) so what is turned off?02:59
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SchaapHi, where can i find more information about the packages?03:00
Schaapbecuase i installed phpbb and the phpbb2-conf-mysql thing03:00
Schaapbut id like to know tha password03:00
Schaapthe03:00
tritiummlambie, did you use "Login Screen Setup"?03:00
Schaapcant be found in the documentation deliverd with it03:00
SuSE|UsEROk libcrypto.dylib is in libssl-dev package :D03:01
tritiummlambie, under Security tab, is "Allow running XDMCP chooser from the login screen" checked?03:01
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[S] pickanyone know how to get sound working in flash?????!?!?!03:03
snowblinknever mind. It was a rogue samba mount causing hassle...03:03
[S] pickFLASH + SOUND = Help...03:03
mpnwi guess noone can help me with my problem03:03
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[S] pickwoot radeon 9600xt working in ubuntu... alont with realtek audio.. but no sound in FLASH!! so help!03:04
SuSE|UsERmpnw, if nobody can help you here try post your problem on forum www.ubuntuforums.org ;)03:04
website[S] pick, look to the configuration of you browser03:04
[S] pickwhere at?03:04
ZellSF<ZellSF> I have a problem with my external USB harddisk, /dev/sda1 isn't created before I plug it out and back in again :(03:04
websitempnw, problem?03:04
ZellSFAnyone? :(03:04
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scizzompnw: if the access to the printer is access denied then you should start to look at the server that is sharing the printer03:05
websiteZellSF, put it on and it is automounted03:05
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ZellSFwebsite: eh, what do you mean?03:05
[S] picki'm using firefox.. i have a realtek sound.. flash works.. but tiwhout sound...03:05
[S] picki got sound working in stuff like Enemy territory... and i can play music and movies.. etc..03:05
websiteZellSF, link your pen to usb device, and it will work03:05
snowblink[S] pick: do you have any other things using the sound card at the same time?03:05
[S] pickno03:06
ZellSFLink *what* to usb device? And how do I do that? :/03:06
snowblink[S] pick: try stopping ESD03:06
[S] pickESD =??03:06
websiteZellSF, are you using gnome?03:06
ZellSFEnlgihtment Sound Daemon03:06
ZellSFYes, I'm using Gnome03:06
[S] pickah03:06
websiteok so get you usb harddrive03:07
[S] pickso run off just alsa?03:07
websiteand plug it with an usb cable03:07
ZellSFyes, I've done that.03:07
ZellSFI don't want to plug it out and in again just for Linx to add it to /dev/03:07
websiteand then your harddrive will be detected (by hotplug) linked (by udev) and mounted03:07
ZellSFYes, it is, but when I restart I have to replugin my USB drive, because it isn't in /dev/ anymore03:08
[S] pickbest way to disable and re-enable ESD is?03:08
ZellSFwhich is kind of irritating :(03:08
ZellSFAny ideas website`?03:08
FalstiusZellSF, if your problem that you can't read it when you first plug it in, or you want to do something fancy with /dev/sda1 during boot?03:09
websiteas i know (it can be wrong) udev organize /dev and creates links accordind to hotplug03:09
websiteyou harddrive should be detected when you will reeboot03:09
websiteand linked again03:09
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ZellSFFalstius: I want it to automatically mount03:09
websiteautomatically03:09
ZellSFbut it isn't added to /dev/ before I plug it out and in again.03:09
ZellSF...?03:10
[S] pickoh.. i have another problem..  i have this network mount in samba.. to my windows pc.. it work when i start up.. and i can play music off it etc.. but it stops working after a while..03:10
ZellSFAny suggestions on how to fix that?03:10
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FalstiusZell, sounds like it isn't being recognized the first time you plug it in ... maybe you don't leave it in long enough03:11
websiteZellSF, i can't help you since when i plug my usb pen and reebot it is seen by hotplug and relinked03:11
ZellSFWell, after I restart, I fully start Gnome03:11
ZellSFStill no sign of sda103:11
ZellSFI have to reinsert the usb cable for it to work :/03:11
FalstiusZell, have you checked dmesg for errors?03:12
ZellSFNo03:12
ZellSFThat in /var/log ?03:12
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FalstiusZell, just sudo dmesg03:12
websiteZellSF, my usb is detected at boot time03:12
[S] picki followinstruction from ubuntu site on setting up samba.. i did it.. and created a mount to a folder on my windows pc.. i can play music off it for a while.. but it just stops working.. and when i try to access it again..  nopthing pops up in the folder view of the mount03:13
ZellSFI can't see any obvious errors...03:13
[S] picki can acess the share otherwise and move files to ubuntu pc.. then play them.. but i want the moujnt to always work..03:14
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Boohbahcan i get an ubuntu iso image in a torrent?03:14
ZellSFyes03:14
FalstiusZell, after a reboot, plug in your usb device and then do it.  That way any messages about the usb are at the end.03:14
ZellSFyou can download torrents from the main page03:14
ZellSFusb messages are at end now03:15
ZellSFscsi2 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices03:15
ZellSF  Vendor: ST94811A  Model:                   Rev: 3.0503:15
ZellSF  Type:   Direct-Access                      ANSI SCSI revision: 0203:15
ZellSFSCSI device sda: 78140161 512-byte hdwr sectors (40008 MB)03:15
ZellSFsda: assuming drive cache: write through03:15
ZellSF /dev/scsi/host2/bus0/target0/lun0: p103:15
ZellSFAttached scsi disk sda at scsi2, channel 0, id 0, lun 003:15
ZellSFUSB Mass Storage device found at 303:15
ZellSFAnything seems wrong there?03:15
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ZellSFthe problem really isn't with the device itself, it works fine, but it isn't added to /dev/ before I reinsert the USB cable.03:17
ZellSFSo no automounts at all  :(03:17
nevynummm.. that should just work out of the box.03:17
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ZellSFIt doesn't work.03:17
nevynit's not automount's problem btw.03:18
nevynit's hotplug's03:18
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ZellSFYeah, I figured something like that, but any idea how to *fix* it?03:18
nevynZellSF: it doesn't just appear in computer?03:18
thullyhi - I recently saw some openoffice.org2 packages in Hoary - is a working snapshot of OO.o 2 in Hoary, or just parts of one?03:18
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ZellSFnevyn: it does, after I reinsert the USB cable03:19
ZellSFdisabling any sort of automatic mounting.03:19
SuSE|UsERthully, OOo2 works in Hoary03:19
nevynhangon so you're trying to setup automount. for something that works without automount?03:19
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ZellSFIt does *work*, but it doesn't automatically work, I have to reinsert the USB cable to find it :/03:20
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nevynok it doesn't work if the device is plugged in at boot time?03:20
ZellSFExactly03:20
thullyis it the default or is OO.o 1.1.3 still the default?03:21
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ZellSFAny way to do anything about that?03:21
[S] pickcant you just run a command when you need it?03:21
[S] pickor are you really that lazy?03:21
ZellSFWell, it does work if the device is plugged in at boot time, but I have to reinsert the USB cable03:21
nevyn[S] pick: that's not the point.03:21
ZellSF[S] pick: yes, I'm really, really lazy.03:21
ZellSFThat, and it really annoys me when stuff doesn't work as it's supposed to03:22
[S] picklol03:22
nevynZellSF: no that means that the behavior is different when hotplugd runs at boot to when hotplugd runs on a actual hotplugging of a device that's wrong.03:22
haggaithully: 113 is still the default03:22
haggaithully: openoffice.org2 is in universe03:22
ZellSFnevyn: is there anything to do about that?03:22
[S] pickisn't there a way to restart hotplug automatically03:22
[S] pick?03:22
tritium/etc/init.d/hotplug restart03:23
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thullywill oo.o 2.0 be the default in hoary final if it is released in time?03:23
ZellSFyes, but I don't want to restart hotplug at each restart either :/03:24
[S] pickmake an icon :/03:24
[S] pickor have it autoload03:24
[S] pickand the command run easily when you need it03:24
nevynZellSF: why not. if that solves it that'd be fine03:24
[S] picka 1 letter script or something03:24
[S] picklmfao03:24
ZellSFoh...03:24
ZellSFSCSI errors03:24
ZellSFI/O erros03:24
ZellSF*errors03:24
nevynbleh03:24
ZellSFnice.03:24
nevynprobably just a dodgy connector.03:25
[S] picklol03:25
nevynthere's no actual scsi controller on a usb block device so.. you know.03:25
[S] pickmy firend plugged his laptop drive enclosure to my pc through usb no prob...03:25
[S] pickwasnt exactly a brand name one either..03:25
simonhi, I installed ubuntu yesterday and now i just noticed i cant boot in to osx. I have checked the yabbot.conf and that is fine. I'm using a dual 2x2 G503:26
[S] pickare you sure you didnt overwrite os X?03:26
simonyes :)03:26
[S] picklol03:26
simoni pulled the second HD03:26
[S] pick;)03:26
simonand osx booted fine03:26
[S] picki love my g-FO03:26
ZellSFhmm, any more suggestions what I can do?03:26
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Schaapbecuase i installed phpbb and the phpbb2-conf-mysql thing, but what is the default login/password?03:27
ZellSFor at least a way to automatically do a restart of hotplug at restart to see if that works?03:27
[S] pickcron?03:27
nevynhrm what happens if you have a service symlinked multiple times in /etc/rc2.d/?03:28
ZellSFI have no idea how to use that.03:28
[S] pickibm.com/developerworks03:28
ZellSFnevyn: I don't know :/03:28
[S] pickcron can execute that..03:28
websitenevyn, it is executed many times03:28
nevyncron is a bad idea.03:28
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simondo anyone here succesfully dualboot osx from a second HD on a g5?03:28
nevynwebsite: excellent03:28
websiteas how may files have in your dir03:28
nevynonly as many as you specified. right?03:28
websiteyes03:28
[S] pickwhat if you linked the hotplug restart to x-server quit? so ctrl-alt-bacspace03:28
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shockm00h03:29
[S] pickremounts your drive03:29
[S] pick?03:29
ZellSF[S] pick: Why would I want to kill the x-server to restart hotplug? :/03:29
[S] picklmfao03:29
[S] picksimple03:29
[S] picklmfao03:29
nevynthat'd be dumb.03:30
[S] picki know03:30
asdfasdfasdfHello, I have working dlink network card, (it works in win98) but now I have installed Ubuntu Linux and internet wont work, how/where I can set it up?03:30
[S] pickit was supposed to be03:30
nevynyou could just move the simlink for hotplug to be later.03:30
nevynI suspect it is starting before filesystems are r/w or something03:30
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snowblinkasdfasdfasdf: you may need ndiswrapper03:31
asdfasdfasdfWhats that?03:31
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snowblinksnowblink: it wraps up a windows driver for use in linux03:31
ZellSFnevyn: I do get some hotplug errors about that :/03:31
snowblinkasdfasdfasdf: it wraps up a windows driver for use in linux03:31
otroeanHI. I'm downloading Ubunto 4.10 because my Libranet crashed. Can i just install the Ubuntu over Libranet?03:31
ZellSFBut I thought that was normal :/03:31
Schaapis my question that impossible :(03:32
bigbubbaanyone here have experience with vmware, i'm curious how do you get it to use your current internet connection? do i have to install the real drive on windows xp in vmware? or how does that work03:32
ZellSFSo, nevyn, how do I move the simlink for hotplug? :/03:32
simonanyone know a irc channel for yaboot?03:32
ZellSF...?03:34
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ZellSFnevyn...?03:35
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tezemIs there a way to get also the 32bit repos with the amd64 version of ubuntu?03:38
mjrtezem, only in a separate chroot03:41
mjrmultiarch support will come Someday03:41
shockok - advanced question: how do I reset evolution to 0 without removing .gconf*03:41
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|m0rph|hello !03:42
|m0rph|i'm need some printer support ..03:42
bigbubbaanyone have an idea about vmware as i mentioned?03:43
ZellSF"scsi5 (0:0): rejecting I/O to dead device03:44
ZellSFFAT: Directory bread(block 19114) failed"03:44
ZellSFAny ideas?03:45
arthur__hey, guys.. I have problems mounting vfat floppies and trying to access them with OpenOffice Writer..03:45
arthur__any idea?03:45
tezemmjr: ok thx do you know if it's simple to switch from amd64 to normal x86?03:46
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tezemor is a complete newinstall needed?03:46
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LathiatHas anyone else noticed a *big* slowdown in start-time for gnome in hoary within the last couple weeks?03:47
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|m0rph|anyone has a printer shared by samba ?03:48
ZellSFsigh...03:48
shockno - I rarely restart gnome :P03:48
tuxJr_14hi03:48
shocknope... am using CUPS for my printers03:48
shockhoi tux03:48
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|m0rph|the printer manager just quits , it think it is a bug ..03:49
tuxJr_14hi shock03:49
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shocker.... question: balckbox broken for anyone else @ hoary-powerpc03:50
|m0rph|what is the url sintax for the printer in CUPS ?03:51
Falstius|m0rph|: smb://user:password@printer.cern/printername03:52
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tritiumWow, http://www.no-name-yet.com still resolves.03:52
Falstiusoh, and for the samba password you can't use some characters (! for one)03:56
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ZellSFOk... So, when I restart hotplug, it works fine :/ ...03:57
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sirukinhmm03:57
nevynZellSF: so it's just bits being not yet mounted or whatever.03:57
sirukinhey guys03:57
nevyncan you send restart from init?03:57
sirukinhow would I go about setting up internet connection sharing with ubuntu?03:57
ZellSFnevyn: no idea. Hotplug still refuses to work at startup :(03:57
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ZellSFSend restart from init? what do you mean?03:58
nevynZellSF: but if you do /etc/init.d/hotplug restart it works?03:58
ZellSFyes03:58
nevynok.03:58
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ZellSFbut not when starting the computer :/03:58
nevynZellSF: what do you think happens when the computer starts?03:58
sirukinhmm03:58
ZellSFEh, with hotplug or what?03:58
nevynthat script is one of the ones that get's run.03:58
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ZellSFyeah. and so?03:59
nevynit's just being run too early before some other bit of the system is initialised03:59
nevynso change when it runs03:59
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ZellSFYes, but you disappeared when I was asking you *how* to fix that :/03:59
ZellSF...?03:59
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sirukinanyone?03:59
nevynZellSF: mv /etc/rc2.d/Snnhotplugd /etc/rc2.d/Syyhotplugd04:00
nevynwhere nn is the orriginal execution priority and yy is the new priority04:00
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ZellSFmv: cannot stat `/etc/rc2.d/Snnhotplugd'04:00
ZellSFoh04:01
ZellSFI see, what do I change the priority to?04:01
nevynZellSF: assuming ubuntu havn't changed it too much it's actually /etc/rcS.d/S40hotplugd04:01
zyganhi...i'm fairly new to linux, and i'm trying to compile postgresql 8 and i keep getting a "readline not found error", realine is installed according to apt-get...anyone know what i can do to fix it?04:01
lifelessinstall readline-de04:01
lifelessv04:01
nevynZellSF: does /etc/init.d/hotplug start also fix the problem or do you need restart?04:01
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sirukinhmm04:02
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ZellSFeh, good question, I'd have to restart to check that :/04:02
nevynhrm looks like start will do.04:02
nevynZellSF: just do this.04:02
sirukinshare my internet from my dial-up computer?04:02
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ZellSFnevyn: do what?04:02
nevynZellSF: cp /etc/rcS.d/S40hotplug /etc/rcS.d/S99hotplug04:02
otroeanHi. I've installed Libranet 2.81, but i want to install ubuntu. Is it just to overwrite the Libranet installation?04:02
nevynthat makes hotplug run at 40 for anything that needs it to be then and last of all04:03
tritiumotroean, you can overwrite it if you want to04:03
sirukinexit04:03
sirukinexit04:03
otroeanthnx04:04
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ZellSFdidn't work :/04:07
ZellSFwhich directory was it again?04:08
nevynZellSF: tell me when automount starts?04:08
ZellSFautomount?04:08
ZellSFDunno :/04:08
nevynok.. stuff in /etc/rcS.d is executed according to numeric priority04:08
seth_wxPython isn't at the repository is it ?04:09
nevynthen stuff in /etc/rc2.d is executed according to numeric priority04:09
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ZellSFand what is the automount file named?04:09
nevynumm04:09
nevynS??automount04:09
nevynit's in one of either /etc/rc2.d or /etc/rcS.d04:09
M3taYou mean, rc2.d if you don't mess with your inittab to change your runlevel :)04:10
nevynZellSF: just sudo mv /etc/rcS.d/S99hotplug /etc/rc2.d/S99hotplug04:10
ZellSFCan't find it :/04:10
nevynM3ta: given ZellSF's current understanding of init I'm assuming he hasn't done that.04:10
nevynbah I just blew away my ubuntu system and installed sid again.04:11
olyjust a quick question, when accessing windows shares i get asked for passwords in samba but not any set04:11
ZellSF/etc/rcS.d/s99hotplug': No such file or directory04:11
ZellSFO_o04:11
tritiumnevyn, :(04:11
olyso what should i type to access the shares, or why is it even asking me04:11
nevyntritium: ubuntu annoyed me.04:11
nevyngnome 2.8 annoyed me a lot.04:12
ZellSFoly: because the folder you're trying to connect isn't set as a public folder :/04:12
nevynand my wife hated it.04:12
Lathiatmy mum loves it04:12
tritiumisn't gnome 2.8 in sid?04:12
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olybut if i access it on another windows machine it does not ask for a password or user04:12
M3taFunny, heh, I installed Ubuntu on my laptop because i wanted Gnome 2.8. To each his own :)04:12
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Boohbahtritium: but who would ever use debian?04:13
tritiumM3ta, yeah, me too.  I found out about ubuntu from hanging out in #gnome-debian04:13
tritiumBoohbah, nevyn does04:13
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Se7ho.004:15
Se7hwxPython isn't at the repository is it ?04:15
olythe windows machines are set up using simple sharing, and definately have no username or password account04:15
olybut it still asks04:15
shock<Boohbah> tritium: but who would ever use debian? <-- me04:15
shockused it happily for 5 years the least04:16
olyi tried entering my windows username, with no password but that does not seem to work04:16
nevynthe only thing that would interest me in ubuntu at this point is if I needed commercial backup support for something04:16
Boohbahi would probably use debian too if i needed a binary distro for an old server...04:16
nevynoly: try guest with no password04:16
tritiumI still have sid on a few machines04:16
olythe windows machine do not even have passwords to login and use them04:16
olyokay will try04:17
tritiumfor now...04:17
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M3tanevyn: Maybe you can tell me something, please. I got a sarge, but i really want to test the unstable stuff. Is sid comparable to ubuntu, in 'unstable packages versions'? I mean, is Gnome 2.9 on sid too, for example?04:18
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olynope, its poped up and asked for a password again04:18
nevynM3ta: you need to understand that unstable refers to the packaging not the software04:18
M3taI know. that's why i stated it as en example. :)04:18
M3ta*an04:19
codehow do get rid of the old irefox after upgrading it?04:19
codefirefox*04:19
wezzervia synaptic?04:19
Guardianngood morning everyone04:20
nevynM3ta: the current gnome in sid is 2.804:20
codei see04:20
codei didnt know thats what that was04:20
codethank you04:20
M3taHmm good enough, time to edit the spt-sources and try it. thanks nevyn.04:20
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nevynM3ta: my desktop workstations always run sid.04:21
codeso what is mozilla browser?04:22
M3tanevyn: so you agree with me when i say that "unstable is really unstable only if you can't handle it"? ;)04:22
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M3taI've always been using "unstables".04:22
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jgedeonhi. i got a problem getting my tape device to run. i added "alias /dev/ht0 ide-tape" to /etc/modules.conf (not directly, i used the script as recommended). anyway, after a reboot, neither does /dev/ht0 exist nor does lsmod show an entry for ide-tape (resp. ide_tape). any ideas? thanks in advance04:26
ZellSFOk, it actually finds sda1 now, yai!04:26
ZellSFBut it still isn't automatically mounted :/04:27
shockanyone else having epiphany crashing when doing: edit->toolbars ?04:27
ZellSFAnyone can help explain me how to automount the disk now that I don't have to reinsert it to detect it?04:29
trey3shock: most people don't use Epiphany04:30
shockprobably04:31
shockbut its alot faster then firefox04:31
shock:)04:31
ZellSFwhat does Rhythmbox use to play MP3 files?04:31
shockAnd I grew fond of it04:31
shockhm04:31
shockdunno? gstreamer?04:31
ZellSFProbably not.04:31
trey3shock: not so much... it uses the same exact engine... except it doesn't require full mozilla, so saves space  :/04:32
trey3ZellSF: 'gstreamer0.8-mad'04:32
trey3Its in Universe04:32
bur[n] erit uses gstreamer04:33
shockwell.... I prefer some minor issues in epiphany04:33
bur[n] erwithout a doubt04:33
ZellSFoh.04:33
ZellSFgreat04:33
ZellSFnow ubuntu has no internet connection04:33
ZellSF...04:33
trey3ZellSF: haha04:33
shocklike the fact that firefox places the curser @ pos 0 in input-filds you mark that have something in them - epiphany uses ->gettext()->length()04:33
ZellSFWtf. Why did ubuntu suddenly start hating the internet? :(04:34
shockmy ubuntu loves the internet04:34
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shockmaybe its a user-thing04:34
shock;)04:34
klaymmy ubuntu literally dives in the waves of internet04:34
ZellSFmy ubuntu can't resolve enough servers to love the internet :/04:34
jgedeonanybody?04:35
Se7ho.004:35
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shockadd some more nameservers then04:35
ZellSFOh, well, anyone know how to automatically mount harddrives?04:35
ZellSFshock: ehm, why would I need to do that?04:35
raydoggis smb4k not in the warty release ?04:35
trey3raydogg: in universe I believe04:35
Se7hZellSF fstab04:35
trey3its KDE... nothing for KDE is in main04:36
shockso u get more server-addies resolved?04:36
ZellSFfstab doesn't execute late enough04:36
raydoggIs there a gnome tool that does what smb4k does ?04:36
Se7huh?04:36
raydoggi do not have kde installed04:36
ZellSFMy harddrive is detected *much* later than fstab now :/04:36
ZellSFhotplug didn't like its original priority.04:36
shockjgedon - is that drive detected at all?04:36
trey3raydogg: not well... heh04:36
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raydoggwell, i can't play mp3s over the network using the default network browser tool :-(04:36
raydoggI guess i could mount them myself04:37
santiagoHi, I have a problem with my wirless network card04:37
shockrhathmbox works absolutely smoothy for me04:37
Se7hand my alien is fu**ed up04:37
trey3raydogg: huh? throw them into Rhythmbox?  :/04:37
Se7hlol04:37
santiagowhen I try to load de ndiswrapper module, i get this: # modprobe -v ndiswrapper04:37
santiagoinsmod /lib/modules/2.6.8.1-3-686/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko04:37
santiagoFATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.8.1-3-686/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Invalid module format04:37
santiagoit's a bcm9430604:37
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santiagoanyone could help me?04:38
snowblinksantiago: did you compile it or apt-get?04:39
weblinHi all. I've got problems with ubuntu being very sluggish. when I run gnome-system-manager as root, I've got a load of processes running with nice -10, could that be why?04:39
raydoggtrey3, i use xmms04:40
ZellSFI've got problems, more of them O_o. Sound doesn't work in Rhythmbox.04:40
trey3raydogg: that sucks  :/04:40
santiagosnowblink, apt-get04:40
snowblinkweblin: yes, possibly.04:40
trey3raydogg: xmms-mad though...04:40
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snowblinksantiago: you did ndiswrapper -i yourdriver.inf ?04:41
trey3ZellSF: you install gstreamer0.8-mad?04:41
weblinsnowblink they all seem to be kernel processes i think. udev, kblockd and resier. should they have -10 nice?04:41
ZellSFyes04:41
ZellSFcodecs are ok04:42
trey3weblin: yes.. and those aren't kernel processes...04:42
weblinoh right04:42
shockhmpf... heise.de is under DoS :/04:42
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shockI hope they get those........04:43
shock*grml*04:43
ZellSFHmm, just volume control reseting to 0% without a reason O_o04:43
weblintrey3, so what could explain the sluggishness on this system?04:43
ZellSFor maybe it just starts like that.04:43
santiagosnowblink, mmm, the guide that i found use modprobe first, thanks, the module has loaded04:43
trey3weblin: no idea...04:43
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santiagosnowblink, :$04:43
snowblinksantiago: cool04:43
trey3weblin: those are background processes though... not related to anything running  :/04:44
ZellSFAny idea on how to automatically mount a drive *after* init?04:44
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snowblinkweblin: what's the load on your box?04:44
weblinit's weird, sometimes the system 'feels' fine, but othertimes it's terrible.04:44
jgedeonshock: yes, at boot time the kernel recognizes it, but doesn't map it to /dev04:45
klaymweblin: hoary or warty? I run the latest warty and this is working like a charm04:45
codeok i just updated my firefox....how do i put it in the applicatins menu?04:45
weblinklaym, warty04:45
klaymk04:45
trey3code: it should already be there.... in hoary, you can't edit menu's currently though  ://04:45
shock<jgedeon> shock: yes, at boot time the kernel recognizes it, but doesn't map it to /dev <--- running udev?04:45
shockhave you googled ybout your specific drive and checked?04:46
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weblinsnowblink, the load says: cpu1 1% (goes between 1 and 4 constantly) and cpu2 is between 1 and 3%. thats from gnome-syustem-monitor04:46
codeit was there...the old version.....but i gor rid of that for the new....theres no way to put it in there?04:46
mpnwhelp with printer please!  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1354304:47
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weblinsnowblink, it's a hyperthreaded p4 so I'm running 2.6.10 from k.org with smp04:47
snowblinkweblin: how much disk space do you have left?04:47
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mpnwhello04:47
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davexccan someone help me with some printer issues?04:47
weblinsnowblink, on root 16G, on home 35G, on boot 42m04:48
shock<code> <-- if all else fails - try restarting gnome04:48
shockbut usually firefox should be detected by the menu04:48
snowblinkweblin: check your logs for any errors or strangeness04:48
trey3code: don't DCC, only /msg if you have to  :/04:48
codesoryy...im new to all of this04:48
shockno need to feel sorry - be proud!04:49
shock:)04:49
davexchaha04:49
coderestarting gnome???restart my comp04:49
davexccan someone help me with printer/samba crashing04:49
shockjust logout and then login again04:49
davexchttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1354304:49
shockshould do04:49
shockI have no clue about samba printing :/04:50
davexcoh okay...04:50
davexcsamba crashes on startup when i have more than 1 printer installed04:50
davexcand its really annoying me04:50
shockthats one advantage of running a debian-stable server.... runs and runs and runs04:50
codebrb04:50
shock:)04:50
weblindont see any weirdness in messages or syslog04:50
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weblinit's acting ok again now. jeeze04:51
shocklol... windoze style!04:51
jgedeonshock: udev? yes, i googled but didn't find anythin so far04:51
shockhm04:51
snowblinkweblin: maybe run top -i next time to see if you can see anything nasty04:51
shockhave u modprobed the driver for your tape?04:52
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shockwell04:52
shockwhat kind of tape is it anyways?04:52
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ZellSF<<what's the name of Gnome's VNC server again?04:54
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ZellSFAny which program do you all think is best for remote control?04:54
jgedeonshock: a seagate ST8000 ATAPI-Streamer04:55
snowblinkZellSF: vino04:55
shockwell my father runs the same darn thingy..... now why is yours protesting04:57
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shockwell04:58
shocknot 100% same04:58
shockbut a seagate04:58
shock*grml*04:58
jgedeonshocK: well it's being recognized... it just doesn't map it04:58
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codefirefox still didnt show up04:59
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snowblinkcode: warty or hoary?05:00
codewarty05:00
jgedeonhdd: Seagate STT8000A, ATAPI TAPE drive05:00
jgedeonhdd: IRQ probe failed (0xffffbff8)05:00
jgedeon(from dmesg)05:01
snowblinkcode: right click where you want the icon to appear in the menu05:01
shockweird thing05:01
punkrockguy318how can I change the default "Open" folder?  It always opens to ~/Documents... I want it to be ~/05:01
codeok05:01
snowblinkcode: entire menu->Add new item to this menu05:01
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occytrey3: yeah, I concur.05:02
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occytrey3: it's odd there hasn't been one yet.05:03
trey3occy: using hoary?05:03
occytrey3: hoary scares me.05:03
ZellSFwhat's a good site for Gnome themes?05:03
codeok where do the programs save at?05:03
punkrockguy318ZellSF, gnome-look.org05:03
occytrey3: I don't know enough to use it.05:03
trey3occy: yeah... especially considering its after freeze  :/05:03
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ZellSFthanks05:03
trey3occy: oh  :(05:03
snowblinkcode: where did you install firefox from? Source or apt-get?05:03
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occysnowblink: or tarball.05:04
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codethe firefox site....i made a folder to extract it to....then installed it05:04
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occysnowblink: sounds like he installed from the tarball. :)05:04
snowblinkcode: try /usr/bin and /usr/local/bin05:04
snowblinkoccy: yup05:04
occysnowblink: it's going to be in his home dir more than likely05:05
snowblinkcode: or where you downloaded it to05:05
occysnowblink: and not in his $PATH05:05
snowblinkoccy: he just wants an link in the menu, so not fussed about PATH05:05
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occyoh ok... /me shushes05:06
snowblinkoccy: probably best to link it anyway I guess05:06
snowblinkoccy: less problems down the line05:06
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DeviadHello05:06
DeviadI have got some problems with ubuntu and grub05:06
DeviadVFS: Cannot open root "hdb5" OR unknown-block (0,0)05:07
codeok its not in any of those05:07
DeviadPlease append a correct "root=" boot option05:07
snowblinkcode: where did you download it to?05:07
trey3Deviad: where did you put /  ?05:08
Deviadkernel panic: VFS: Cannopen root on unknown-block(0,0)05:08
PuGzi have heard that a development release of hoary was just recently released. I REALLY cant wait to get hoary... anyone know when it might be released? I apologise if this is a question that gets asked often and annoys people... but there didnt seem to be anywhere else that could give me a decent date for the release... i understand it might not be exact... but is it gonna be weeks? or months?05:08
snowblinkDeviad: grub doesn't use hda or b or c ...05:08
Deviadwait05:08
Deviadwait05:08
Deviadok05:08
Jonathan_CHi Deviad05:08
DeviadI have /boot on /dev/hdb105:08
Deviadand I checked device.map05:08
PuGz(hd1,0)05:08
Deviadand it is hd0,005:08
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Deviadaccording to device.map05:08
trey3PuGz: in April .... you can download ISO's of it now though... LiveCD and Install CD's are available etc...05:09
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Deviadin fact it works with the default things ubuntu created05:09
PuGztrey3: are they the actual release or development ones? and whats the difference?05:09
DeviadI just want to run a kernel without initrd05:09
Deviadthat I feel uncomfortable with05:09
Deviadso05:09
Deviadthis is what I have05:09
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PuGzsame! i cant stand initrd05:09
PuGzi dont know why... it just annoys me05:09
codei found where it is.....but which file actually opens the program???????????????05:09
trey3PuGz: there are no releases of Hoary yet...05:09
PuGztrey3: so what are these ISO's you speak of?05:10
Deviadtitle           Herumor, kernel 2.6.8.1-3-38605:10
Deviadroot            (hd0,0)05:10
Deviadkernel          /vmlinuz-2.6.8.1-3-386 root=/dev/hdb505:10
snowblinkcode: mozilla-firefox probably05:10
Deviadit should work according to the gentoo manual I have followed to configure grub05:10
trey3PuGz: there are 2... Daily snapshots... and Sounders (more complete etc) ... also LiveCD gets a daily snapshot release too...05:11
Deviadand some past knowledge05:11
codethere is a bunch of different files in the folder.....which ione opens firefox??05:11
codeicon*05:11
Deviadtrey3, what sucks it's that you can't install hoary gnoppix on the HD05:11
trey3PuGz: what was announced was the first milestone for Hoary's LiveCD's on PowerPC, IA64, and AMD6405:11
Deviadbecause it misses the hdd install script since it's just a beta05:11
snowblinkcode: is there one called mozilla-firefox or firefox?05:12
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Deviadand you can't use moprhix installer on the new gnoppix05:12
Deviadanyways, can you help me with my issue?05:12
PuGztrey3: so they make daily ISO's?05:12
trey3Deviad: sure you can... its exactly the same as the instlal CD  :/05:12
DeviadI have to fix the monitor refresh as well05:12
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trey3PuGz: yes05:12
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PuGztrey3: woah!05:12
PuGzi didnt know that!05:12
PuGzi have never heard of daily ISO's before!05:12
PuGzcrazy!05:12
PuGzthose sick bastards!05:13
PuGzhehe05:13
PuGzhow very kind of them indeed!05:13
trey3:)05:13
Deviadwell, if there some bastards out there who can help me I'd be thankful to him...05:13
PuGzDeviad: whats your biff?05:13
DeviadI typed it above05:13
Deviad:(05:13
codeok.....lets start over....i d/l firefox....made a folder to unzip it in....installed it....and i guess when i installed it...the files went to the same folder05:14
Deviadjust few lines above05:14
Deviad kernel panic: VFS: Cannopen root on unknown-block(0,0)05:14
PuGztrey3: I want to use ubuntu. I currently have a pre-release of WARTY on cd... but it doesnt work well... alsa sucks on it etc... i goto uni and they have a mirror of ubuntu... what do  you think the best way for me to get ubuntu is?05:14
PuGzi could lug my computer into uni and do it that way...05:14
Deviadcan anyone get my menu.lst file so he can tell me what wrong is in it?05:15
PuGzor download the stuff at uni and put it on a dvd to bring home...05:15
snowblinkDeviad: pastebin.com05:15
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Deviadtrue05:15
DeviadI forgot that05:15
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codeok...i found it05:17
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PuGzwhat are universe, multiverse, restricted and main all about?05:17
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Deviadhttp://pastebin.com/23624805:18
DeviadHave a look at this.05:18
PuGzand where in the directories of the mirror i use can i find the ISO's?05:18
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codenow can someone help me with my sound card not working?05:19
trey3PuGz: these are all things that you can find easily on the site   :/05:19
snowblinkDeviad: hd1,005:19
PuGzDeviad: your "root's" are wrong... hdb5 should have root (hd1,4) etc05:20
Deviadwell05:20
PuGztrey3: aiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight05:20
Deviadaccording to device.map05:20
Deviadcoming with grub05:20
Deviadhdb is hd005:20
Deviad^^05:20
DeviadI can't understand it either but it simply works05:20
Deviadat least with recovery mode, that was autoconfigured anyways05:21
Deviadat least with recovery mode, that was autoconfigured automatically05:21
PuGzhdb is hd105:21
PuGzhda is hd005:21
DeviadPuGz, the device map says hdb is hd005:21
DeviadI read a guide on gentoo that says what you are saying05:21
Deviadbut the device.map file says we are wrong05:21
Deviad^^05:21
PuGzit shouldn't... do you understand the counting system?05:21
Deviadin my case at least05:21
Deviadyes05:21
trey3PuGz: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/components/document_view   < main restricted universe multiverse explained05:21
Deviada = 005:22
Deviadb = 105:22
snowblinkDeviad: okay, so what about the partition number?05:22
Deviadand so on05:22
Deviad1 = 005:22
Deviad2 = 105:22
Deviadand so on05:22
PuGza=0, b=1, c=2, d=3 etc.... then the number trailing the a or b you subtract 1 from... ie 1=0, 2=1 etc05:22
DeviadI know that PuGz05:22
PuGztrey3: cheers05:22
Deviadbut the device.map05:22
Deviadsays that hdb = hd005:22
trey3PuGz: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/  <-- the daily images... clearly marked...05:22
Deviadon my computer05:22
Deviadhdb1 = /boot05:22
PuGzwhy would it say that?05:22
Deviadhdb5 = /05:22
DeviadI dunno05:22
DeviadI can make a screenshot05:22
Deviad^^05:22
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PuGzdo you nah... i'll be alright05:23
snowblinkDeviad: hd1,505:23
snowblinkDeviad: hd0,505:23
Deviadwhy is it like that?05:23
jceWhat is the major difference between ubuntu and debian?05:24
snowblinkDeviad: I thought you said hdb505:24
Deviadyes05:24
trey3Deviad: cuz its how grub defines it..   :/05:24
Deviadinfact05:24
Deviadbut in grub you count from 005:24
Deviadnot from 105:24
Deviadso it's 0,405:24
Deviadaccording to you05:24
trey3jce: Ubuntu has a more frequent release cycle... thats about it  :/05:25
Deviadbut on gentoo it's explained that 0,0 is refeared to where /boot is located05:25
trey3jce: if you're using Sid... not much...05:25
Deviadso it should be 1,005:25
Deviadbut dev.map says hdb=005:25
Deviadso it must be 0,005:25
Deviadas reported for the other automatically configured devices05:25
snowblinkDeviad: ah you have a separate /boot05:25
Deviadthe problem is that it works just the recovery mode05:25
jcetrey3: ahhh.05:25
DeviadYes05:25
Deviadsnowblink, exactly05:25
DeviadI have got a partition for boot05:25
Deviadthat is hdb105:26
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trey3Deviad: no... first number defines disk... second number defines partition... it doesn't care about /boot etc... it just points at such things...05:26
snowblinkDeviad: hd0,0 sounds good then05:26
bitfooubuntu uses the sarge installer :|05:26
jcetrey3: so is there a reason to use ubuntu instead of sid?05:26
Deviadjce, if you have sid then stay with it05:26
Deviad^^05:26
DeviadI got ubuntu just 2 try05:26
DeviadI have been using slackware for 2 years so far05:26
trey3jce: xorg and gnome devel without compiling yourself....05:26
Deviadjce, I still have xfree on ubuntu05:27
Deviad:|05:27
Deviadwhere do you see xorg?05:27
stvnDeviad: it's in hoary05:27
trey3Deviad: cuz you're using warty  :/05:27
Deviaduff05:27
jceI may move my home machine over to give it a try.05:27
Deviadare you using gnoppix?05:27
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bitfoouse the livecd and decide for yourself05:27
Deviadanyways05:27
DeviadI want to fix this shit05:27
trey3jce: If you like Gnome and Debian... I'd recommend giving it a try as a desktop...05:28
Deviadwell, gnome is just stable05:28
Deviadanyways I saw a better one05:28
jcecan I just add lines to my sources for ubuntu?05:28
bitfooubuntu is particularly suited for laptops as well :)05:28
jceor do I need to do a clean install?05:28
DeviadEnlightenment 0.1705:28
Deviadthis one must be really great05:29
snowblinkDeviad: what happens if you change the device when you're at the menu?05:29
stvnDeviad: so i'm told 3 years ago05:29
trey3jce: sure... 'deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary(or warty) main restricted universe multiverse'05:29
jcecool.05:29
Deviadmmm05:29
punkrockguy318how can I change the default "Open" folder?  It always opens to ~/Documents... I want it to be ~/05:29
trey3jce: if you're using Sid though... Ubuntu hoary is a little behind...05:29
Deviadit says that it can't read after the cylinder number 102405:29
Deviador something like that05:30
DeviadI get errors 18 or 1705:30
jcethats unfortunate.05:30
snowblinkDeviad: how large is your /boot?05:30
Deviad64 MB05:30
Deviadand I have got an NFORCE 3 card05:30
Deviad^^05:30
Deviadso it isn't old at all05:30
Deviad:D05:30
DeviadGigabyte branded05:30
Deviad^^05:30
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DeviadI'm starting to think that grub just sux05:31
PuGzThe weekly DVD's that are made... are they basically the same as the weekly cd's which have the install and some packages... but with the dvd just having more packages?05:31
PuGzDeviad: grub rocks once you get it05:31
trey3PuGz: its a bootloader... so long as it does its job... it neither sucks nor rocks  :/05:32
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Deviad(hd0)   /dev/hdb05:34
Deviad(hd1)   /dev/sda05:34
Deviad(hd2)   /dev/sdb05:34
DeviadThis is what I have for those who don't believe me05:34
Deviad:D05:34
snowblinkDeviad: the only glaring omission I can see is the initrd05:34
Deviadsnowblink, I just don't want to install it.05:34
shockre05:34
DeviadI mean, I don't wanna use initrd05:34
Deviadand I checked the config file05:34
Deviadext3 is labeled as yes05:34
PuGztrey3: but i just dislike the way that lilo needs re-running after each new kernel install, and how if u get the configuration wrong.. or forget to re-run it, it gives you no possible way to boot your distro... u need a repair cd (or the install cd) of your distro... grub allows you to enter the details manually05:34
Deviadso I should be able not to use it.05:35
trey3PuGz: grub does too... just most package managers issue update-grub... whereas more lilo implementations don't   :/05:35
PuGzwhat does grub also do?05:35
PuGzneed updating... yes05:36
trey3PuGz: require you to update config after any changes... basically what 'lilo' does...05:36
PuGzbut if u forget to you arent screwed!05:36
trey3PuGz: just as screwed as with lilo  :/05:36
trey3ie... can't boot new kernel  :/05:36
Deviadok05:37
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PuGzi know it can be recovered with lilo, but its a longer process05:37
Deviadfor those who thought I was just a lamer05:37
Deviadnow they have the proof that in my case05:37
Deviadhdb = hd005:37
snowblinkDeviad: I think you need it if you are using ext305:37
PuGztrey3: yeah... when u boot, if the configuration is wrong, you can do it manually at boot time to boot your pc!05:37
Deviadsnowblink, are you sure?05:37
PuGzwhat initrd?05:37
PuGzno you dont05:37
trey3Deviad: that makes NO sense... but ok...05:38
snowblinkDeviad: google for it05:38
Ngtrey3: it's really quite hard to screw grub up enough that you can't boot05:38
Ngso long as the kernel is on a filesystem in your machine, grub can access it05:38
Deviadmaybe05:38
DeviadI get it05:38
PuGzif you manually compile your kernel using ext3 or whatever, you dont need initrd05:38
snowblinkDeviad: from what I can see it's needed05:38
Deviadtell me how to set / and /boot05:38
Ngand its built in console makes it pretty easy05:38
Deviadwait wait05:38
DeviadI got the clue05:38
Deviadtell me how to set / and /boot05:39
Deviadin fstab05:39
DeviadI'm sure it is that.05:39
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PuGztrey3: The weekly DVD's that are made... are they basically the same as the weekly cd's which have the install and some packages... but with the dvd just having more packages?05:39
Deviadcan you plz tell me how to set /boot and / in fstab?05:40
trey3Deviad: no, because the errors you're getting are related to GRUB, its not getting as far as mounting...05:40
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trey3PuGz: no idea... I don't use the DVD's  :/05:40
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trey3PuGz: I really don't recommend trying either though... lots of issues according to the report.html files...05:41
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snowblinkDeviad: can I ask why you don't want initrd?05:42
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PuGztrey3: so how you recommend i get hoary? the current array?05:44
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snowblinktrey3: I wonder how I can make windows always on top...05:44
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trey3PuGz: daily iso  :/05:45
trey3snowblink: right click "On Top"...05:45
PuGzok05:45
Lathiatsnowblink: click the icon in the top left, its an option05:45
trey3or what Lathiat said... same thing...05:45
snowblinktrey3, Lathiat: I want it to remember that settig though05:45
PuGzi am also on dialup... i think i might have to take my pc to uni to download the stuff05:45
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snowblinkI hope Deviad worked out that he needs initrd since he's likely got ext3 as a module...05:46
trey3snowblink: file an enhancement to gnome bugzilla?05:46
snowblinktrey3: heh - I might just wait for kubuntu...05:46
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Ngyou can control how windows appear with something called devilspie, but it's a real pita to configure05:47
trey3snowblink: uhh... ok  :/05:47
snowblinktrey3: I've been spoiled by KDE apparently05:47
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trey3snowblink: what do you think kubuntu will be?05:47
snowblinktrey3: broke vim last time05:48
trey3snowblink: huh? enless you install kvim, kde won't even touch vim  :/05:48
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bitfooXlib:  extension "RANDR" missing on display ":0.0".05:49
bitfoo[OS]  Debian testing/unstable (2.6.10-2-686) :: [Uptime]  14:17 :: [CPU]  2-Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.70GHz @ 1700MHz (2048 KB/0% load) :: [Memory]  263M Used, 1011M Total (74% Free) :: [Video]  RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10]  (1280x800/24 Bit/) :: [Disk]  5.99G Used, 55.04G Total (84% Free) :: [Network]  Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5788 Gigabit Ethernet (eth1: 55.17M In, 4.60M Out)05:49
bitfoo:|05:49
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snowblinktrey3: I installed KDE. I think apt-get kde05:50
snowblinktrey3: but was miffed when I typed vi and it said command not found05:50
trey3snowblink: yeah... that drags down half the archive  :/05:50
Stinky_TacoWOW! I just noticed GNOPPIX is now Ubuntu hoary :)  What a neat project.. Thanks guys!05:50
Stinky_Taco64 bit too!05:50
trey3snowblink: 'apt-get install kde-core' and don't install kvim  :/05:50
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wm_eddieI'm talking to you from the new kiosk for the Language media center in the University of pittsburgh.05:52
snowblinktrey3: will give that a go. :)05:52
Plukbitfoo, dont you have powernowd installed?05:52
wm_eddieAn old G3 running Ubuntu05:52
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Plukcuz your cpu is running 1.7Ghz on 0% load05:52
Plukwhile it could run 600mhz05:52
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bitfoohmm05:53
bitfooi guess not05:53
bitfoopowernowd is already the newest version.05:53
bitfoo:/05:53
Plukis it started?05:53
Lathiatperhaps your cpu doesn tsupport scaling?05:54
bitfoomodprobe powernowd ?05:54
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Lathiatcat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/affected_cpus05:54
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Lathiathrm /proc/cpuinfo is broken while scaling05:55
Lathiatlike it thinks by cpu is at 418mhz and thats not right, bogomips are wrong too. hrm.05:55
bitfoowhy i guess it isnt scaling :|05:55
bitfooit should though :|05:55
Lathiatbitfoo: hrm?05:55
bitfoocpuinfo shows it at 1700 :(05:56
Lathiatbitfoo: cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_min_freq05:56
bitfoothat doesnt do anything :?05:56
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bitfoono such file or directory :|05:56
Pluksudo powernowd05:56
Plukwhat does that give?05:56
bitfoolots of errors :|05:56
bitfoocouldn't open file x 305:57
bitfoocouldn't open govn's file for writing: No such file or directory05:57
bitfooCouldn't get per-cpu data: Illegal seek05:57
bitfooPowerNowd encountered and error and could not start.05:57
bitfoo:/05:57
Plukpowernowd: PowerNow Daemon v0.90, (c) 2003-2004 John Clemens05:57
Plukpowernowd: Found 1 cpu:05:57
Plukpowernowd:   cpu0: 600Mhz - 1700Mhz05:57
Plukshould look like this05:57
Plukdo you have an asus laptop?05:58
bitfooyes05:58
Plukeducated guess05:58
bitfooi have everything it says i should have :/05:58
stvnbitfoo: warty or haory?05:58
stvnPluk: heh05:58
bitfoo2.6 kernel, sysfs mounted, and cpufreq driver loaded :O05:58
bitfoowarty05:58
Plukive read that asus isnt showing its scaling freqs correctly05:58
bitfooahh so maybe it is scaling though05:58
bitfooim pretty sure it scales independent of the os?05:59
stvnbitfoo: it didn't work in warty for me either, but in hoary it works on my asus laptop05:59
bitfoo:|05:59
stvnmy batterystatus doesn't work though05:59
bitfoowhich laptop do you have :|05:59
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stvnbitfoo: M6000Ne05:59
bitfoome too05:59
bitfooyou have to patch the kernel or fix the dsdt table :|05:59
bitfoom6n.ath.cx06:00
bitfoo:|06:00
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Plukthat fix is prolly on hoary then06:00
bitfoono06:00
stvnbitfoo: yeah discovered that site, haven't bothered yet06:00
bitfoobecause i think the kernel hack will break other manufacturers :/06:00
bitfooits assus' fault :(06:00
stvnbitfoo: oh and my poweroff doesn't work properly in hoary, whereas it worked in warty (IIRC)06:01
wm_eddieasus is a name therefore it's asus's :p06:01
bitfooyeah when i go to shutdown it wont shutdown06:01
stvnyep06:01
bitfooit will hang on "powering down" or some crap06:01
bitfooso them i am :(06:01
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stvnbitfoo: look at the bright side: the scaling can be fixed06:02
Pluk:)06:02
bitfooi think the scaling is independent :|06:02
bitfooi think it works even if it says it doesnt :/06:02
stvnbitfoo: i think so06:02
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bitfoo:|06:03
bitfooother than that i like the laptop :/06:03
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codecan someone help me....i cant get any video or music files to play06:05
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codehello??06:07
jcoxon77hello06:07
codecan u help me?06:07
jcoxon77maybe whats your problem?06:07
codei cant get any video or music files to play06:08
jcoxon77okay, what programs are you trying to use?06:08
codei think one is called totem06:08
wm_eddieAnybody remember that ipv6 fix to firefox?06:08
stvncode: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats06:09
jcoxon77yup, and what are the file type you are trying to play?06:09
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codei tried em all06:09
codeavi, mpeg,mov06:09
stvncode: you need to enable support for mp3, avi etc06:09
codehow do i do that?06:09
codecould it be that my sound card isnt reconized?06:10
Amaranthcode: sudo apt-get install gstreamer-plugins06:10
stvncode: see the page I gave06:10
Amaranthyou'll need to enable universe06:10
Seminolewm_eddie: type in about:config in the browser box06:10
Seminolethen filter for "ipv"..  You'll see network.dns.disableIPv6 - need to change it to "false"06:11
shockactually I got totem-xine, xine and all that concerning stuff from marillat installed... er... multiverse06:11
Seminolewm_eddie - http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#disableipv6-mozilla06:12
codeok and how do i do the sudo thing?06:12
wm_eddiethanks06:12
Seminolenp06:12
wm_eddieI've been searching the wiki with no luck this whole time06:12
stvncode: sudo <whateveryouwanttorun>06:13
stvncode: and the password is your own password06:13
SeminoleThat site is great.   One of the best tools for actualy getting my friends to consider Linux..   :)06:13
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codeok so i have to goto that site d/l shit....then use the sudo?06:13
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stvncode: er.. follow the instructions on that site, you need to add repositories06:14
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codewhat is a repositorie???06:15
codesorry im really new to this06:15
stvncode: the place where you get your software from: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/howto/helpcenterhowto.2004-09-30.535934980106:17
stvncode: and https://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/howto/helpcenterhowto.2004-10-20.3414506543/06:17
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wm_eddieok, now to make a session that only runs firefox.06:19
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wm_eddieanyone know where I can find information on that?06:19
dr_willishmm06:20
dr_willison what? :P06:20
tswany idea for a math program in linux like mathcad and matlab on windows?06:20
Plukyou prolly need to google for kiosk mode wm_eddie06:20
Riddelltsw: GNU Octave06:20
tswRiddell: thanks Ill check that out06:20
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Se7hBeatrIX Linux 2005.1 Final represents more than 19 months' work by three programmers, and input from hundreds of users. It is a Debian/Ubuntu derivative, and tracks the Ubuntu repository06:22
Se7hthey even track ubuntu06:22
Se7h:D06:22
CreeValIm going to install a new harddrive and replace the one with the Master boot record and GRUB, and of course install Windows 2000 on it... Any ideas on how to install GRUB and keep my current Ubuntu install?06:23
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nF3ris ubuntu better than suse in ease of install and use ?06:30
codehey stvn??????06:30
stvncode: ?06:30
codei did that06:30
codenow what06:30
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stvncode: you are using synaptic?06:30
codeyeah06:31
shocknF3r: dont think there is so much of a difference in usability06:31
stvncode: hit the reload button06:31
shockinstallation - if you get lucky ubuntu is darn easy to install06:31
codei already did06:31
shockand use... well... getting newer versions of software is alot nicer using apt06:31
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stvncode: ok, install gstreamer0.8-mad and totem-xine06:32
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codehow do i do that?06:32
stvncode: don't worry about ubuntu-desktop being removed06:32
stvncode: search and than click on the square06:33
dr_willishmm06:33
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codeok found it06:35
codenow what?06:35
stvnclick on the square infront of it06:35
codemark for installation?06:35
stvnyep06:35
codeit says its not installable06:36
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stvncode: which one?06:36
codeboth06:37
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jonohi all06:37
stvncode: does it give any reason?06:38
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codeunresolvable dependacies06:38
jonois OpenOffice 2 intended for hoary?06:38
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codemake sure all required repos are added and enabled06:39
stvncode: you are sure you enabled both multiverse and universe and you did not disable aything else?06:39
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Deviadhello guys06:39
DeviadI'm on windows right now06:39
codei dont think06:39
DeviadI read through google that is a problem related to the kernel 2.6.806:40
Deviadexactly the one that comes with the old ubuntu06:40
Deviadso I'm thinking to get the new hoary06:40
Deviadare you downloading gnoppix?06:40
stvncode: can you paste the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list in pastebin.org?06:40
tritiumjono, I don't know if that's been decided yet06:40
codeshould i just ebable all repos?06:40
jonotritium, oh right06:40
stvncode: that's the easiest way ;)06:40
jonotritium, when OOo 2 due for release?06:41
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tritiumjono, don't know that either :)06:41
codeill do that then try again06:41
stvncode: btw it's not pastebin.org but .com06:41
DoctaIs there a convenient way to install swat?  I'm using the warty/universe set, but I've been getting the same version conflict (with samba) for weeks now06:42
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tritiumjono, but don't go reporting my ignorance on lugradio now ;)06:42
jonotritium, heh, a listener :)06:43
stvncode: i'm away now, so if you need more help, ask in general06:43
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tritiumjono, and an article reader06:43
codeok thanks for your help06:43
jonotritium, :)06:44
Deviadhow can you install gnoppix hoary on the hard disk?06:45
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Docta"swat: Depends: samba (= 3.0.7-1ubuntu6) but 3.0.7-1ubuntu6.3 is to be installed" <-- is there a nice way to get around this or am I just going to have to override the versions?06:45
zAo^who can help me on this error: failed to open package info file `/var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/control06:46
zAo^I tried to install a .deb file with dpkg -i <file.deb>06:46
DeviadCan you plz tell me how you install gnoppix on the hard drive?06:46
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DeviadCan you plz tell me how you install gnoppix on the hard drive?06:49
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klaxnekhi all ubuntu-ers ;) anyone knows a site with ubuntu based wallpapers?06:52
tritiumjono, this is all I can find: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/ChrisHalls/06:52
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shockgnome-look.org has some06:52
PlukDeviad, isnt gnoppix just a live cd without option to install it to hd?06:52
zAo^www.unbuntuforums.org06:52
Soap_On_A_Roapanybody know where I can get a program that plays either .mov or .wmv?06:52
zAo^Soap_On_A_Roap, Totem06:52
LathiatSoap_On_A_Roap: see totem-xine06:52
klaxnekthx shok, forgot to watch that web06:52
ubuntuSoap_On_A_Roap: and codecs06:52
ivarif I have some iptables rules I want to take effect every time I boot, where's the 'ubuntu standard' place to store them ?06:53
DeviadPluk, older versions could be installed on the HD06:53
Deviad:|06:53
Deviad:(06:53
Plukivar, place the script in /etc/init.d/06:53
Plukthen update-rc.d scriptname defaults06:53
tritiumjono, looks like openoffice.org2 is a "Target of Opportunity" for Hoary: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HoaryGoals/06:53
ivarPluk, thanks..06:54
Plukyw06:54
klaxnekother question: in ubuntu64, when setting a 32bits chroot, all the base packages needs to be installed?06:54
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Soap_On_A_RoapI have totem06:55
Soap_On_A_Roapbut where could I get the codecs?06:55
jmhodgesok, init.d/dbus-1 is giving me an error about a missing system.conf (this is in hoary).. i've tried reinstallation, but it seems that the initscript for dbus is not installed when i reinstall06:55
Soap_On_A_RoapI have totem06:56
Soap_On_A_Roapbut where could I get the codecs?06:56
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jmhodgesSoap_On_A_Roap: check the wiki, and stop repeateing questions06:56
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pielorusHi everyone. Can someone please tell me what the minimum system reqs for Ubuntu are?06:57
jmhodgespielorus: you'll want 2 gigs to install the base system though and a moderate amount of RAM to handle gnome well06:57
MeMa|Sorcererhallo06:58
Plukhiya MeMa|Sorcerer06:58
pielorushow much is moderate 128 MB? or 256 MB? what kind of CPU will I need?06:58
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jmhodgespielorus: 128 MB can handle it, with some swap06:59
jmhodgesi put it on my lil bro's computer, and he's running something godawful... 450 MHz or some such? can't remember06:59
jmhodgesone sec06:59
jmhodgesbah, itll run on most anything07:00
pielorusnice07:00
jmhodgesyou'll want swap of course..07:00
pielorus'cause I'm looking to buy a laptop to run it on and basically just screw around a bit07:00
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nF3rdoes anyone know a link for the latest stable iso ubuntu ?07:00
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pielorusthanks alot, cheers07:01
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pierre_install problem on a 200mhz pentium with atapi cd-rom, hangs at loading ide-cd module07:04
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Cinduxroare07:08
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CinduxDoes anyone know by chance how much ram Ubuntu uses on its own07:08
Cinduxby default without me having anythung open ?07:08
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cowbudwhy ohh why is bugs.ubuntu.com not setup?!07:09
cowbudwhat ist his bugzilla nonsense07:09
cowbudmooo07:09
pybe-lappycowbud: it is07:09
websitehow to change language to entire the system?07:09
cowbudpybe-lappy: bugzilla.ubuntu.com is07:10
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Lathiatcowbud: you want http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com07:10
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raydoggnautilis can't display samba shares ?07:10
Boohbahwhat is the projected hoary release date?07:10
pybe-lappycowbud: you want something different?07:11
cowbudpybe-lappy: yah I wants just bugs :)07:11
cowbudala debian style07:11
cowbudand gnome07:11
Cinduxhm07:11
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pybe-lappycowbud: is it just the name or a different system?07:11
cowbuddifferent name07:11
cowbud:)07:11
codecan someone tell me how to play mp3's???????07:11
pybe-lappyBoohbah: search the wikki07:11
BoohbahOur next release, sometime early 2005, will be roughly 5.04.07:12
cowbudcode: www.ubuntuguide.org07:12
Boohbahpybe-lappy: does that mean april?07:12
pybe-lappycowbud: add bugs.blah to your /etc/hosts file as an alias for bugzilla.blah07:12
cowbudpybe-lappy: NO07:12
cowbudhaha07:12
pybe-lappylol07:12
raydoggcode apt-get install xmms07:12
cowbuddoes ubuntu's website have a equiv to packages.debian.org ?07:12
pybe-lappyBoohbah: means what it says07:12
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cowbudso I can see the patch they use for their packageS?07:13
Boohbahpybe-lappy: so warty is the only release for now?07:13
pybe-lappyBoohbah: yep07:13
varlahey how can I install the xine-lib07:13
pybe-lappyBoohbah: hoary is in beta or whatever07:13
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Boohbahpybe-lappy: i can get the latest gnome with warty, right?07:14
pybe-lappyvarla: apt-get install xine or xine-ui or totem-xine07:14
encryptiovarla: install xine-ui. it installs xine-lib as well afaik07:14
klaxnekcowbud: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ ? Inside http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/07:14
websitehow to change the language of the whole system07:14
website?07:14
codeso in synaptic i searched for xmms and do i just use the one that says xmms?07:14
codetheres a bunch07:14
pybe-lappyBoohbah: maybe by adding the hoary repos or something07:14
raydoggwell07:15
varlaencrypto: I did that and the xine-lib are not included I Think07:15
raydoggjust open a console and type apt-get install xmms07:15
raydoggor sudo apt-get install xmms07:15
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encryptiovarla: why do  you say that?07:16
codeok07:16
codeill try that if this doesnt work07:16
raydoggk07:16
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varlaencrypto:I am trying to play a dvd with encryptions and it is looking through the another lib that I can't write the name of right now07:17
encryptiovarla: libdvdcss2, right?07:17
codeso that is a program right?07:17
varlaencrypto: yes07:17
raydoggyeah07:17
raydoggits like winamp07:17
raydogga clone07:17
codeso now how do i make my mp3's play in that?07:17
raydoggfor X07:17
raydoggright click on an mp307:17
raydogga mp307:17
raydoggproperties07:18
raydoggthe open with tab07:18
raydoggclick add ( if xmms isn't already in the list )07:18
encryptiovarla: if you run xine from a terminal and try to play the dvd, it'll tell you the path to a shell script. run that script with sudo, and quit and relaunch xine.07:18
raydoggtype xmms in the box and hit "add"07:18
raydoggthen click the radio button07:18
raydoggnote that it won't play mp3s from a network share for some reason07:18
varlaencrytio:I ran xine from a terminal and it freezes looking for the css plugins for region 1 so I don't get to a shell script07:19
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codeit says my sound card isnt working right....may be bloacked....configured07:21
code???07:21
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weblinhi all, I think i've broke my apt install :S07:22
encryptiovarla: check this out: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats07:22
varlaencryptio:ok07:22
weblini'm running warty, but i installed hoary mono packages, and now I'm getting crashes when I try to use synaptic07:22
weblini can run synaptic, but when i click to install a package it just closes07:23
encryptiomy my my. mixing hoary and warty. that's why i reloaded the last 2 times...07:23
weblindamn07:23
encryptioweblin: can you still use apt from the terminal?07:24
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weblinencryptio, yeah i can07:24
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encryptioweblin: have you tried removing and installing (reinstalling) synaptic?07:24
asdfasdfasdf"Error 18: Selected cylinder exceeds maximum supported by BIOS" <-- What does that means07:24
weblinhmm, no. i'll give it a try07:24
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pregojust for curiosity... is there any way to perform an ubuntu network install (share the CD via nfs or ftp)?07:26
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iRochaHello07:26
weblinencryptio, still crashing after a reinstall07:27
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iRochaCan I install Ubuntu by ftp?07:27
pregoiRocha, just have asked that!! ;-)07:27
iRocha:)07:27
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weblini'll just try installing it from sources07:27
pregoiRocha, no yet an answer07:27
iRochaprego, thanks :)07:27
pregoiRocha, having problems with the CD?07:28
iRochaexactly07:28
asdfasdfasdf"Error 18: Selected cylinder exceeds maximum supported by BIOS" <-- What does that means?07:28
iRochaprego: "Can't mount CD" or something like that.07:28
weblinprego, iRocha, i dont think you can install ubuntu by ftp. but you can install debian, then apt-get dist-upgrade07:28
pregoiRocha, when??07:28
encryptioweblin: one more thing...07:28
pregoweblin, thanks for the answer07:29
iRochaprego, after choosing the language and keyboard mapping07:29
pregoiRocha, did you check the md5sum prior to burning?07:29
iRochaweblin, that will upgrade debian to ubuntu?07:29
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asdfasdfasdfWhat does this means: "Error 18: Selected cylinder exceeds maximum supported by BIOS" ?07:29
iRochaprego, they are the original ubuntu cd's07:29
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Zindarany of the canonical guys here?07:29
Boohbahasdfasdfasdf: your BIOS doesn't support that large of a disk07:30
cmarquHi all.07:30
iRochaprego, they worked at home, but not in the computer i'm trying to install it now07:30
asdfasdfasdfBut, last time it works fine07:30
encryptioweblin: your synaptic problem... try removing /root/.synaptic07:30
pregoiRocha, :-((. In my case, I had to dump the iso and burn it again with 1x so the installation seems to be working right now in an old machine...07:30
weblinencryptio, i'll have a go07:30
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pregoiRocha, but this is not the case of the original CDs!!07:30
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shockhello again *sing*07:31
weblinencryptio, no luck. damn07:31
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iRochaprego, the original warty live cd works fine, but the latest hoary live cd doesn't work too, very strange.07:31
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pregoiRocha, then, just install Warthy and upgrade to Hoary, isn't it?07:31
encryptioweblin: i'm out of ideas07:32
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iRochaprego, i can't install warty, only the live cd runs.07:32
pregoiRocha, oh, wait, sorry07:32
weblinencryptio, cheers anyway. I'll try the latest sources07:32
iRochaprego, i guess this friend of mine won't have ubuntu installed so soon :(07:33
LathiatiRocha: define doesnt work07:33
pregoiRocha, he he. I'm not an expert... but the debian way might solve the problem as weblin says07:33
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iRochait boots, i enter the language and keyboard mapping then it says it can't find the cdrom07:34
spiralhmmm... Anyone here knows about smart battery gestion in ubuntu ?07:35
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pregoiRocha, did you check the messages on console 3rd or four (ALT+F3, ALT+F4,...)?07:35
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weblinencryptio, building the latest sources works now :)07:37
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pregoanyone has installed glademm in ubuntu?07:38
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tasukihello, does anyone have problems with azureus in ubuntu?07:39
weblintasuki, works ok for me. whats up?07:39
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rob_mhellooo07:40
encryptioyo07:40
encryptio.google test07:40
encryptiodamnit07:40
rob_mhey man have you tried out libflash for gplflash from the hoary repos?07:40
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encryptionope07:41
Gigsare there no seeds for the torrents?07:41
encryptioi don't do much with hoary, i'm warty with a little testing on the side07:42
rob_mit hardcrashed firefox on my amd6407:42
GigsI tried several of the normal mirrors, all were very slow, now trying the torrents, and it's been sitting there for 15 minutes with no seeds07:42
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rob_mhas anyone heard of or used skype?07:43
pregorob_m, I did, in SuSE07:43
snowblinkrob_m: yes07:43
rob_mis it worth trying out?07:43
snowblinkrob_m: definitely07:44
pregorob_m, is free as in beer :-P07:44
klaymis it better than gaim?07:44
rob_myes :-(07:44
snowblinkklaym: It's voice over IP07:44
klaymoh07:44
rob_mklaym: i will still live by gaim07:44
klaymI thought it was a messenger thing07:45
pregosnowblink, did you alien the rpm to install it into ubuntu?07:45
snowblinkklaym: you can also IM07:45
klaymok07:45
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snowblinkprego: I followed the instructions on ubuntuguide07:45
tasukiweblin: azureus says: Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/eclipse/swt/internal/Library07:45
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klaymso it's like messenger with voice?07:45
pregosnowblink, sweet. Where is ubuntuguide?07:45
rob_mjust one of those webphone services07:45
klaymthat might get awful when you're very popular :D07:45
rob_mif you pay money they will make calles outside of the web too07:46
snowblinkklaym: primarily voice, but can dial real phones too07:46
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weblintasuki: what jre are you using?07:46
snowblinkprego: see topic07:46
tasukiweblin: I tried both 1.5 and 1.407:46
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weblintasuki: have you set the JAVA_PROGRAM_DIR="" variable in the azureus startup script?07:47
pregosnowblink, thank you very much ;-))07:47
tasukiweblin: hmm, no :)07:47
snowblinkprego: np07:47
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weblintasuki: i've installed java into /opt/java/, so in the azurureus script i just put JAVA_PROGRAM_DIR="/opt/java/bin/"07:48
weblintasuki: try it with the path to your 1.5 jdk07:48
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Zomb_hi07:49
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tasukiweblin: I also tried to run it as $java -jar Azureus2.jar07:49
Zomb_who's the cdrtools maintainer for Ubuntu?07:49
tasukiweblin: it had worked before :-(07:49
Zomb_daniels: you?07:49
occyhas anyone here bought a new computer lately?  I'm looking for something that I can stick Ubuntu on.07:50
weblintasuki: weird. what does "java" point to in your path? did you set the JAVA_HOME env variable and add it to the system path?07:50
drnobesHi all.  Here's a quick question.  My wireless networking is working, after I compiled and installed the driver, but the link monitor applet is not showing it.  It's set to the correct device (ra0) but it shows no connection.07:50
ZellSFTotem won't play video? why?07:50
Pitstairs?07:50
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snowblinkZellSF: you've installed the codecs?07:51
ZellSFsome of them07:51
ZellSFwhich ones do I need?07:51
snowblinkZellSF: depends what you're trying to play07:51
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ZellSFEverything, Totem doesn't display any kind of video07:52
ZellSFworks fine in vlc07:52
snowblinkdrnobes: you're sure there is traffic?07:52
Stefanoitalian ? ;D07:52
drnobessnowblink, I'm using it right now.07:52
ZellSF...?07:52
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rob_mdamn totem for crashing at my porn07:53
tasukiweblin: I do not have JAVA_HOME variable, but all other java apps run without problems07:53
mxpxpodis there a flash plugin for powerpc?07:53
mxpxpodthat doesn't crash firefox?07:53
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weblintasuki: not sure whats wrong. have you tried with setting the path in the azureus script?07:54
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snowblinkZellSF: maybe check ubuntuguide for the codecs - check you have them all07:54
occy * Entries close on January 31st, 2005.07:54
richxah, nice - some ubuntu channels ;-)07:54
richxhello07:54
tasukiweblin: the path should point to java/bin directory?07:54
occywhy do I always find this crap out after it's over with.07:54
occyheh07:54
rob_mhello richx07:54
weblintasuki: yeah07:54
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richxhello to the world!07:54
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richxis anybody speaking german?07:55
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weblinZellSF: have you installed totem-xine? i dont know if totem-gstreamer(default) supports win32 codecs07:55
tasukiweblin: still the same :-/07:55
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ZellSFoh, good point.07:55
weblintasuki: weird. try removing the azureus dir and reinstall it07:55
richxno?07:56
tasukiweblin: ok :)07:56
weblintasuki: let us know how it goes.07:56
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dbt`veritashow many of you still boot into windows?07:59
tasukiweblin: ohh, I am silly, I am *really* sorry for wasting your time, and thanks for trying to help me07:59
dbt`veritasfrom time to to time at least07:59
weblintasuki: hehe thats ok :)07:59
Zindardbt: lot's of people do to play games07:59
ZindarI do to play poker :)07:59
Lathiattasuki: everyone has bad days :)07:59
Zindarthat's it07:59
ZellSFHow do I get Gnome to list videos as thumbnailS?08:00
weblinZellSF: nautilus-media08:01
weblini think08:01
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wasabi_Totem should just do it08:01
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ZellSFWell, on Mandrake, the it showed thumbnails by itself, so I have no idea how to do it :/08:01
ZellSF...?08:02
LathiatZellSF: just works for me, hrm08:02
weblinyou might need to restart nautilus once you've installed totem-xine08:02
wasabi_what videos types?08:02
ZellSFdifferent types.08:02
ZellSFI've already restarted08:02
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weblinZellSF: the nautilus-media packages says it has:   gst-thumbnail: thumbnails videos for nautilus08:04
ZellSFok08:04
ZellSFNot that I'm going to use Totem anyways, since it likes drawing random blue stuff at video output :/08:04
shockmy totem runs like a charm08:04
shockexcept for wmv files08:05
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Ribsyou have wmv files?08:05
Ribsshame on you08:05
weblingstreamer can play wmv now..in cvs i think08:05
ZellSFI can only view mvoies fullscreen, or I get blue lines or something08:05
ZellSFAnd 1x looks... not nice.08:05
ZellSF:/08:05
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Ribssounds like overlay isn't working properly08:05
ZellSFAnd is there a way to fix that?08:06
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RibsZellSF: It's likley to be a hardware problem08:06
Ribssomething isn't behaving properly08:07
ZellSFdamn08:07
Ribsyou could try it without overlay08:07
Ribsdunno if you can turn that off in totem08:07
ZellSFI don't think so :/08:07
Ribsor try another player08:07
Ribsit *could* be a software problem08:07
Ribsbut I doubt it08:07
weblinZellSF: totem-xine gets it's options from ~/.gnome2/totem_config - try setting it in there08:07
dbt`veritasanyone here have wine or cedega and play CS 1.6?08:08
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iRochaprego, anything yet?08:14
iRochaprego, i wasn't here08:15
rob_mhey whats the address for the news server again?08:17
rob_mthe ubuntu news group server?08:17
no0ticon hoary, fade out from screen lock doesn't work08:18
no0ticwhat is the problem?08:19
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Orbohelp with apt repositories?08:21
rob_moh i finally found it its gmain.linux.ubuntu08:21
OrboWhich repositories do I need to get the latest versionso fhings such as xchat for warty release?08:21
Orboversions of things*08:22
Orbogotta run08:22
rob_mthe latest versions are kept for hoary08:22
no0ticOrbo: backports08:22
Orboright thats what it is08:22
Orbowhich ftp is it?08:22
rob_msame one, just change the distro name08:23
no0ticgo to bpubuntu.sourceforge.net08:23
Orbogot in nm08:23
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no0ticOrbo: no, I'm wrong08:24
no0ticOrbo: I don't remember it08:24
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Guardianngood afternoon08:26
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rob_mman i cant connect to gmane.linux.ubuntu08:27
GuardiannI have discovered an interesting problem with the last updates I made this morning ( I am using Hoary) up untill this am my printer has worked great. Now when i attempt to print a test page through gnome it wont print. When I reboot the test page prints any ideas ??08:28
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AndyRlo ppl08:30
Guardiannhello AndyR08:30
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Guardianndamm its this transparent text08:31
Guardiannwhat a neat option08:32
iRochaAnyone had problems installing ubuntu because of a "can't mount cd" message?08:32
dbt`veritasnope08:33
sabdfliRocha: do you have SATA drives, and an ATA CDROM?08:33
dbt`veritasdid you dl the iso?08:33
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cowbudwow it makes sense that I sohuld have to download 1 meg worth of text data to submit a bug08:36
klaymit's the price you have to pay to make ubuntu a better OS :) it's all logical!08:38
cowbudklaym yah well if I was a modem user i'd just not bother08:38
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klaymme neither08:39
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rempresenti accidently deleted my wastebasket from my panel how do i get it back08:40
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klaymdamm you, you're now wasted!08:40
plagerismwhat kernel version does warty use??08:40
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linux_mafiaanyone else finding hal does not start in hoary? i can see the problem but im not sure which package is at fault08:41
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Guardiannsystem tools configuration editor  apps   nautilus  desktop08:41
khinesterhello08:41
Guardiannhi08:42
khinesteri have setup ubuntu and apache, but i am having difficulty in setting up WebDAV and FTP08:42
tux_hi08:42
khinesterto access and change pages08:42
sabdflrempresent: right click on the panel08:42
sabdfladd to panel08:43
sabdflnear the bottom: wastebasket08:43
sabdflvoila08:43
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cowbudhow do you attach files in this badness called bugzilla?08:43
cowbudI am at the commit a bug page and I see nothing for Attach file..08:44
rempresentahh08:44
rempresentfound it, it is called a trash applet08:44
rempresentthanks08:44
khinesteri have enabled the dav_ modules08:44
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khinesterbut still no luck08:44
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Dethreadmoin08:45
iRochasabdfl, SATA drives... i don't think so.08:46
iRochaATA cdroms i have no ideia.08:46
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iRochasabdfl, if i have an ATA cdrom, can i install ubuntu?08:48
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khinesterhow do you open the WebDAV on UBUNTU?08:49
SlavenI have a problem with XMMS in Ubuntu.08:49
sabdfliRocha: yes08:50
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zazeemcan someone help me08:50
Slavenit's been like this since I did an imbecile apt-get update && apt-get upgrade with an unstable repository added to sources.list.08:50
iRochasabdfl, how? floppy drivers?08:50
sabdfliRocha: there is a known glitch for Warty on some systems that have SATA drives, and a PATA cd rom08:50
sabdflthe solution is a little funky08:50
Slavensince then, XMMS sometimes complains that sound drivers can't be found/another program is blocking the output.08:50
sabdflduring the install, before it tries to detect the cdrom, you need to switch to VT2 and manually modprobe the ide-cd modules08:51
Guardiannzazeem hello whats up today?08:51
Slavenother times it works fine but freezes every now and then.08:51
sabdflsearch bugzilla for the exact procedure08:51
iRochaok, thanks08:51
zazeemi get this error when i start enemy territory game, ----- R_Init -----08:51
zazeem...loading libGL.so.1: Initializing OpenGL display08:51
zazeem...setting mode 6: 1024 76808:51
zazeemUsing XFree86-VidModeExtension Version 2.208:51
zazeemXF86DGA Mouse (Version 2.0) initialized08:51
zazeemXFree86-VidModeExtension Activated at 1024x76808:51
zazeemX connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown).08:51
zazeemwhy does it paste that many lines?08:51
zazeemant it be one line?08:51
iRochasabdfl, bye dinner time now08:51
zazeemthats error08:52
zazeemsup guardiann :)08:52
Guardiannevery time you paste that it floods08:52
zazeemi know why though it used to not08:52
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Guardiannisnt that the same error you have had for a few days?08:52
zazeemyes08:52
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francisHi everyone08:53
zazeemhoping the same guys are on that heped me last weekend08:53
Guardiannhello08:53
zazeemi had it fixed  but reinstalled08:53
francisDoes anyone know of a way that I can change the partition of /home without re-installing?08:53
Guardiannand you dont remember the fix?08:53
khinesterfrancis perhaps you can ln -s the home dir08:53
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_axelhi, i tried setting the RenderAccel and NvAGP options in xorg.conf to use acceleration in the desktop but i get the following message in dmesg output: NVRM: not using NVAGP, AGPGART is loaded!!08:54
_axelwtf is that?08:54
tarzeaudoes xorg also have setxkbmap ?08:54
franciskhinester, hmm, that's a good idea. Thanks.08:54
khinesternp08:54
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Slaventarzeau: yes.08:56
francisUbuntu so far seems great :D08:56
francisnot quite at home yet without KDE though; downloading. =)08:56
lordan_axel, try unloading agpart08:56
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_axellordan: agpart seems to be in use by sis_agp08:58
Slavenhm08:58
Slavencreepy fact:08:58
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Slavenit's only when I start mp3s from nautilus that I get the error with an occupied output - when I run xmms <songname> from the commandline, it works perfectly!08:59
lordanhmm... kde..08:59
tarzeauSlaven: do you know where the files/data is with all keymaps that setxkbmap understands? not xlibs-data, is it?08:59
lordani do miss one thing from kde08:59
danil1Slaven: have you tried "lsof /dev/dsp"?08:59
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Slaventarzeau: no, sorry, very new to debian myself.09:00
Slavencoming from gentoo.09:00
lordanfish://user@server actually works09:00
Slavendanil1: same error running from nautilus, no difference running from commandline09:00
lordanand so does samba09:00
Slavenmaybe I should just reboot.09:01
lordannautilus + networking == bleech09:01
danil1lordan: just install Konqueror09:01
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Slavenok, reboot, then.09:02
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_axelgah, dunno what's going on but since i upgraded to hoary, fonts look total crap in X09:03
zazeemwe got like 2 new grapes in our school09:03
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lordandanill, don't think so09:03
_axeli've tried playing with the settings in preferences->fonts but i still get ugly looking antialiasing and some characters even appear chopped09:03
sampsaanyboyd know why vncserver wouldnt be available throuhg apt-get?09:03
danil1_axel: what do you mean? Have you tried "dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig" ?09:03
lordani want to keep kde completely off09:03
lordan_axel u have 2 video cards?09:03
lordanbut if the kde ui is cleaned up I'll have a look again09:04
danil1lordan: I know what you mean... It's much more cleaner when you use only one DE and not a mix of Many09:04
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_axellordan: i have one video card, and btw dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig just totally hosed my system for 5 seconds09:04
hituhow do i enable/disable firewall ? :/09:05
danil1hitu: there's no firewall, since by default there are no open ports09:05
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hitudanil1: i aint able to dcc send anyone :)09:05
hituwhat else could be the problem09:06
hitui m able to receive though09:06
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_axeli'll re-login brb09:06
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danil1hitu: hmm... I don't know. Maybe some kind of proxy/router/hardware thing is preventing you to receive incoming connections?09:07
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hitudanil1: cant be .. i had same kind of problems on FC3 .. i just added the port address to my firewall and enabled it09:08
hituand my dcc send's were workin again09:08
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Guardiannhitu i think thats what danill was saying by default there are no open ports on ubuntu09:09
hituokay09:09
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danil1Guardiann: but if a port is opened, it should receive connections09:10
hituhow do i disable Clock Sync. thats on the startup09:10
Guardianndanil1 he does receive09:10
danil1hitu: sudo chmod -x /etc/init.d/ntpdate09:10
hitukind of hangs my machine for a minute or two09:10
Guardiannhe cant send09:10
hituyah i can receive ..  cant send :P09:10
francisHi. Where could I go to change display settings? Normally detects my Monitor as Samsung SyncMaster (it is), but it works better with the "Generic" option... In Fedora KDE it was something like Settings > Display, but don't see that around here.09:10
danil1Guardiann: er... sorry :-/09:10
_axelhmm, fonts still look crap09:10
hituaah never been able to use Sudo09:10
Guardiannnp :)09:10
hituwhats the password for it09:10
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danil1hitu: your own :)09:11
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hitui did change the passwd for su09:11
hituoh cool09:11
hitulol09:11
Guardiann:)09:11
snowblinkhi trying out ACPI suspend to RAM. It suspends, but has problems coming out. Any pointers?09:11
hituso now that clock sync wont bug me again right ? :P09:11
danil1hitu: su -> enter root password (you need to set it first, and you did). sudo -> your password (cool!)09:11
danil1hitu: aye09:12
hituokay cool \m/09:12
hitunow back to compiling kernel :|09:12
GuardiannI have discovered an interesting problem with the last updates I made this morning ( I am using Hoary) up untill this am my printer has worked great. Now when i attempt to print a test page through gnome it wont print. When I reboot the test page prints any ideas ??09:12
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hitugetting a really bad error09:12
|QuaD-Guardiann: thats interesting?09:13
SlavenThe problem persisted after reboot, but I managed to script my way out of it.09:13
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hituVFS: Cannot open root device "hda1" on unknown block(0,0) on my upgrade of kernel to 2.6.11-rc109:13
scizzoGuardiann: what does the logs tell you?09:13
SlavenWhich is weird.09:13
SlavenBut I'm just glad it works.09:13
zazeemcan someone help me09:13
zazeemXFree86-VidModeExtension Activated at 1024x768 X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown).09:13
hituwell not the kind of topic i should discuss in here anyway :P09:13
Guardiannno errors test print just sits and waits09:13
hituehehe zazeem u still havin probs with ur X09:13
hitu:P09:13
scizzoGuardiann: /var/log/something?09:13
danil1snowblink: there's something in the wiki...09:13
zazeemyes :'(09:13
scizzoGuardiann: I mean those logs09:13
zazeemno one wants to help09:14
zazeem:|09:14
Guardiann:)09:14
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hituzazeem: maybe no body knows about it09:14
zazeemthey do09:14
scizzozazeem: take it easy....09:14
snowblinkdanili: I've read the SuspendHOWTO, but no go on coming out of a suspend09:14
hitulol09:14
Slavenwould help if I knew.09:14
zazeemwhat?09:14
zazeemlol09:14
scizzozazeem: it takes time to answer also09:14
zazeemi know what it was09:14
Slavenmyself I can't even get cedega to work :P09:14
danil1snowblink: search for suspend in the website, you should find some pages09:14
Slavenbut, I was wondering, is there a guide on how to setup a bootsplash with Ubuntu?09:15
zazeemi need to edit my cfg that has resolutions at login screen09:15
zazeemdelete the high ones09:15
danil1Slaven: how did you solve?09:15
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zazeemdunno what one09:15
Guardiannhmmm looks as though it detects the printer fine09:16
Slavendanil1: I wrote a small python script that ran the command the way I would run it from commandline. It though that's how nautilus would run it too, but guess I was wrong.09:16
danil1snowblink: have you tried with HoaryPMResults? Are you listed?09:17
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liquidwhats the command to move one folder to another one in the terminal?09:17
snowblinkdanil1: have looked. But my laptop is not listed. Nothing similar either. :(09:17
danil1liquid: mv09:17
tux_liquid, mv09:18
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Slavenheh09:18
paerliquid: mv folder to_another_folder/09:18
danil1snowblink: maybe you'll just have to wait... :-(09:18
nicodiemusEr. Anyone know much about Alsa?09:18
liquidso its mv *folder address* *second folder address* ?09:18
Slavenif you want to copy it with cp, you need the -R flag (cp -R <source> <dest.>)09:18
scizzonicodiemus: ask the question instead please09:18
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paerAnyone here knows where I should look for ways to get Firefox and Thunderbird in my local language (I choose swedish on installation of ubuntu, but my browser and thunderbird (which I installed later via apt-get) is in english.09:19
nicodiemusscizzo, my Mini-ITX doesn't seem to get on with the ALSA installation in Ubuntu. It won't detect or use it.09:19
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paerliquid: yep pretty much that. you may have to have a look at the "-r" option, though09:19
scizzonicodiemus: are you sure it is supported?09:19
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scizzonicodiemus: and if it is....in what version of alsa is it supported and kernel?09:20
nicodiemusWell, i had it working in Fedora. It's just an AC'97.09:20
snowblinkdanil1: Thanks anyway. Will have a look at acpi@sf09:20
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danilo_snowblink: good luck!09:21
Slavenpaer: if you find out, please tell me.09:21
danilo_paer: install mozilla-*-locale-se09:21
danilo_(if it is packaged...)09:21
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liquidso something like : "cp /mnt/hdb5/bin /mnt" so im wanting to move the bin file to the mnt file...09:21
paerdanilo_: ah so I will need to do a apt-get remove firefox and remove mozilla-thunderbird first?09:21
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liquid*hte bin folder rather*09:22
Slavense isn't packaged :(09:22
danilo_paer: no, they're just addons09:22
nicodiemusscizzo: Hm. I was pretty sure AC'97 was pretty generic, but i'll look into it.09:22
paerliquid: cp -r /mnt/hdb5/bin /mnt/09:22
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zazeemhi09:22
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Slaveneven norwegian is packaged, but not swedish. :(09:22
randabis-laptopwow, laptop is lookin' good heh09:22
randabis-laptophttp://img16.exs.cx/img16/9708/desktop14ml.jpg09:22
hitucould someone gimme the correct line for fstab to load a windows partition ?09:22
danilo_isn't it available as extension?09:22
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help:)09:23
paerdanilo_: that will copy the bin-folder to /mnt/09:23
hituright now its : /dev/hda3               /mnt/windows  vfat    defaults        0 009:23
randabis-laptophitu, www.ubuntuguide.org09:23
liquidpaer what does the -r do, i think i missed that part09:23
hitui aint able to mount/umount it with a regular non-root user09:23
hituokay randabis-laptop :)09:23
Slavenhitu: "users"09:23
Slavenin opts09:23
paerliquid: it copies subfolders too09:23
scizzonicodiemus: well I don't know much more then to look if it is really supported09:23
helphow do i edit my resolution on my nvidia logo and login screen so its 1024x768?09:23
liquidah right09:23
nicodiemusscizzo: looks like it needs some kernel recompilation. :D fun.09:23
danilo_hitu: just add 'user' to the mount options09:24
hituk09:24
scizzohehe..09:24
paerdanilo_: do you know where I should turn to offer my help to package it for ubuntu? is it a ubuntu-group that handles that, or is it the mozilla project?09:24
danilo_paer: just use cp -a (as root): it will preserve times, symlinks, etc. and copy recursively09:24
helphow do i edit my resolution on my nvidia logo and login screen so its 1024x768?09:24
paerdanilo_: ah, like cp -rp ?09:25
danilo_paer: ubuntu-devel, I think09:25
paerdanilo_: ok thx i'll have a look09:25
danilo_paer: yes. if you're copying a whole file system, cp -ax is the best way09:25
paerdanilo_: aha i've never seen either the -x or the -a options. nice to learn something :o)09:26
help?09:26
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paerhelp: are you looking for a way to change your screen resolution?09:27
danilo_help: what is the resolution now?09:27
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helpit is09:27
helpdunno09:27
helpreally high09:27
helplike 1600x1200 probably09:27
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danilo_help: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree8609:27
paerhelp: Computer -> System config -> Screen resolution (maybe just resolution)09:27
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liquidpaer, will it just sit there untill its done (its over a gigs worth of stuff that im shifting) ?09:28
helpnaa paer thats desktop :P09:28
liquidpaer, cos it doesnt sound like its doing anything09:28
nettyhi everyone! i've followed the guide at the ubuntu wiki to enable acpi suspend to disk, but nothing happens when i close my laptop lid. how can I debug it?09:28
paerliquid: yep it will.09:28
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liquidbut it hasnt given me any errors09:28
helpcan edit res in sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree8609:28
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paerliquid: log in to another terminal window and do a df -h09:28
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paerliquid: then wait some and do another one, and watch if the size has changed. if it has, you're copying :o)09:29
liquidnow the terminal is giving me an inputoutput error09:29
danilo_liquid: you could use -v to see every file it copies/moves around09:29
paerliquid: what does it say?09:29
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liquidpaer then wait some and do another one, and watch09:30
liquidoops didnt past the right one09:30
helpdanilo, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 doesnt have anything in it about res09:30
paerliquid: hehe no u didn't :o)09:30
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liquidpaer, cp: cannot create directory `/mnt/sda1/files/audacity/voice samples_data': Input/output error09:30
paerhelp: so you are fine with the desktop resolution, just not with the gdm resolution? or what?09:30
danilo_help: at the end it should. Anyway, just backup your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 and try to edit it :-)09:31
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liquidpaer, im on a live cd, if that makes a difference09:31
paerliquid: i have no idea about the live cd. maybe you're trying to copy to cd? that may not work...09:31
liquidi installed windowsxp and it stuffed up the grub installation, im trying to copy files from linux to a usb hd09:31
liquidnope, im defenitely not :P09:31
helpzazeem@workgroup:~ $ sudo /etc/X11/XF86Config-409:31
helpsudo: /etc/X11/XF86Config-4: command not found09:31
paerliquid: ok. maybe there is some problems with the usb driver?09:32
liquidthe usb hd only has write privelages for root, so i typed sudo fierst09:32
paerhelp: sudo gedit ...09:32
paerhelp: or sudo cp ... ... for bkup first09:32
helpk09:32
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liquidthrer used to be a bunch of files on the hard drive, now theres only 2...;09:32
helpzazeem@workgroup:~ $ sudo cp /etc/X11/XF86Config-409:33
helpcp: missing destination file09:33
helpTry `cp --help' for more information.09:33
nicodiemusscizzo: i found this: http://www3.sympatico.ca/howlettfamily/epia/epia_howto/x822.html09:33
paerliquid: ok maybe the mounted disk was unmounted for some reason?09:33
danilo_help: .../etc/X11/XF86-backup09:33
paerhelp: man cp09:33
liquidpaer, i dont see why.. :P09:33
danilo_help: or just use the file manager (as root) to copy and edit the file09:33
liquidim gong to try with "-v" instead09:33
liquidsee if that makes any difference09:33
paerhelp: that will tell you that u need to enter a destination file too.09:33
helpzazeem@workgroup:~ $ /etc/X11/XF86-backup cp09:34
helpbash: /etc/X11/XF86-backup: No such file or directory09:34
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paerliquid: yep, that sounds smart. :o)09:34
danilo_help: Apps->Sys tools->File man. (as superuser) or something like that09:34
danilo_liquid: use -u to skip files already copied (if you want)09:34
paerdanilo_: how did u get that entry in the menu?09:34
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liquid/mnt/hdb5/home/matthew/Desktop/files09:34
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liquidwarty@ubuntu:~ $ sudo cp -v /mnt/hdb5/home/matthew/Desktop/files /mnt/sda109:35
liquidcp: omitting directory `/mnt/hdb5/home/matthew/Desktop/files'09:35
danilo_paer: it's here in hoary... isn't in warty?09:35
liquidommitting directory?09:35
paerhelp: cp /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 /etc/X11/XF86Config-4-backup09:35
danilo_liquid: cp -axv09:35
paerdanilo_: not what I can see :o)09:35
paerdanilo_: but it sounds like a good idea. I can't wait for hoary to be stable.09:35
liquiddanilo_, axv?09:35
apokryphosHey everyone. Could anyone help me out with some Ubuntu apt sources?09:36
helpanyone know the wii where it showed how to install nvidia or ati stuff? it was really useful09:36
paerapokryphos: please include what apt sources you are looking for in your question09:36
helpwwiki*09:36
paerhelp: google for ubuntu install nvidia09:36
danilo_paer: -a: include subdirs, etc. -x: skip other filesystems. -v: report progress09:37
helpdone that i know its in the wiki just cantt find09:37
apokryphospaer: Sorry; I just meant an apt sources repository in general. The Universe one I have is *very* dated (just installed Ubuntu today); it has KDE 3.2.... while 3.3 (and even 3.3.2) has been out for quite some time.09:37
paerhelp: also, I would believe the wiki has a search function09:37
danilo_paer: just sudo nautilus in the meantime ;-)09:37
liquiddanilo_, i tried the cp -axv option, it went straight into the input output error09:37
paerdanilo_: yep09:38
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paerapokryphos: you may try multiverse, but I don't know if you will find kde 3.3. I do gnome09:38
randabis-laptopapokryphos, that's because warty's packages froze quit a while ago09:38
danilo_liquid: is there valuable data on the usb disk? or only a copy?09:39
liquidits a backup09:39
liquidbut its not my disk09:39
randabis-laptopif you want kde 3.3, you either need to get it elsewhere, or use hoary (development release)09:39
paerapokryphos: just you have to know that multiverse apps may be unstable or make your system unstable09:39
randabis-laptopit is in hoary's universe09:39
apokryphospaer: Right, will try that now.09:39
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paerapokryphos: also have a look at randabis answer :o)09:39
liquidcp: failed to preserve ownership for `/mnt/sda1/files': Operation not permitted09:39
liquid- could tht be cos im on a live cd? (i just used "sudo"09:39
apokryphosrandabis-laptop: I see; thanks.09:39
Slavenuh09:39
danilo_liquid: no, if you are root, you are root everywhere on the system.09:40
Slavenwhere the h3ll is my grub.conf?09:40
apokryphosNot many KDE users on Ubuntu, then?09:40
paerSlaven: /boot/grub?09:40
liquiddanily_ what im saying is that im not proper root09:40
Slavenpaer: nope09:40
danilo_liquid: what filesystem is on the usb disk? is not fat, or is it?09:40
liquidi cant use the perminant root command, cos im on the live cd09:40
liquidits fat09:40
paerapokryphos: I have no idea, but I would guess kde users do debian or mandrake09:40
Slavendon't even have a /boot/grub09:41
danilo_liquid: fat has *no* support for perms09:41
liquidoh09:41
liquidit says that root can write to it09:41
liquidbut noone else09:41
randabis-laptopapokryphos, not really, it's meant to be a gnome-based distro...there is a kubuntu team out there though that are working to bring the latest kde to hoary (as I said, kde 3.3 is in universe)09:41
Slaveneh... either I'm blind or stupid, or... I don't have a kernel image in /boot.09:41
paerSlaven: uhm ok. I do.09:41
wm_eddieanybody know where I can get the documentation on how to add a new session to GDM?09:42
randabis-laptopI use XFCE personally :)09:42
paerSlaven: not that I'm implying anything ;o)09:42
helphow do i get into the nvidia settings panel to set stuff??????09:42
Slavenoh, boot wasn't even mounted :P09:42
Slavenhahaha09:42
Slavenbut there's stuff in there anyway09:42
danilo_liquid: if you want a reliable backup, you should reformat the backup disk as ext3, or reiserfs, or another linux fs09:42
paerhelp: nvidia-settings i think09:42
randabis-laptopSlaven, /boot/grub/menu.lst is probably the closest thing...your kernels should be vmlinuz-*09:42
paerSlaven: hehe.09:42
randabis-laptopheh09:43
Slavenrandabis: ofcourse.09:43
apokryphosrandabis-laptop: It's in Universe? Perhaps I'm not following properly... but I've got the Universe repository and it's 3.209:43
randabis-laptopapokryphos, you're using ubuntu warty09:43
paerapokryphos: universe for hoary. maybe that's someting else..09:43
randabis-laptopthat's why09:43
liquiddanilo_ i dont know if im allowed to09:43
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liquiddanilo_ could i use a dvd writer with this? or do i have to install software?09:44
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danilo_liquid: is there enough space for your root partition?09:44
linux_mafiaany devs here? or anyone else here running hoary noticed hal dosen't start09:44
apokryphosrandabis-laptop: Sorry, what's the difference? =)09:44
marcin_anthello - any news about website contest?09:44
liquiddanilo_ root partition?09:44
randabis-laptopubuntu hoary has a lot of bleeding edge packages and is in active development09:44
randabis-laptopit receives daily package and security updates09:44
paermarcin_ant: website contest?09:44
danilo_liquid: the root for ubuntu, the one you are trying to copy09:44
randabis-laptopwarty only receives security updates09:45
randabis-laptopsince hoary is still in development it's considered "unstable"09:45
marcin_antpaer: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/websitecompetition09:45
liquiddanilo_, theres 70gig free space, so i think so :P09:45
danilo_liquid: how large is it? (show me df output)09:45
paermarcin_ant: thx09:45
netmonkanyone with ubuntu on iBook g3?09:45
randabis-laptopthings might break from time to time, etc...but broken things are generally fixed very quickly09:45
apokryphosrandabis-laptop: But.. it's not a different platform? Technically, what are Warty and Hoary?09:46
randabis-laptopI currently run hoary on 3 different systems09:46
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websiterandabis-laptop, how can i upgrade to hoary?09:46
apokryphosrandabis-laptop: If it's got better KDE support, then I'll most probably get it09:46
websiterandabis-laptop, do you knwo the differencies between a debian and an ubuntu package?09:46
randabis-laptopapokryphos, it's the version of ubuntu currently in active development. When it is released in April, it will replace warty09:47
apokryphosrandabis-laptop: Ah, I understand. Will get it now... stability is boring ;-)09:47
randabis-laptopwebsite, check the ubuntu wiki, HoaryHedgehod section09:47
randabis-laptopHedgehog een09:47
randabis-laptopeven09:47
randabis-laptopblah, laptop keys :p09:47
randabis-laptopwebsite, generally ubuntu packages have ubuntu in their package name or description09:48
helpk now when i start an opengl game it restarts to login, it changes resolution, hen rebooots to login and nvidia screen :| any idea why this is te error i get -----R_Init ----- ...loading libGL.so.1: Initializing OpenGL display ...setting mode 6: 1024 768 Using XFree86-VidModeExtension Version 2.2 XF86DGA Mouse (Version 2.0) initialized XFree86-VidModeExtension Activated at 1024x768 X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server 09:48
danilo_liquid: you can use a nasty trick to create an image of the whole file system and store it in a file09:48
apokryphosGrumpyGroundhog :D What an excellent name09:48
randabis-laptopGrumpyGroundhog has actually been renamed to Bendy iirc09:49
[amasimak] website, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GuideToHoary09:49
magnonBendy what?09:49
randabis-laptopGrumpy is going to be something else entirely I think09:49
websiterandabis-laptop, it seems to be not true since synaptic determinates if the package is supported into ubuntu09:49
bigbubbatwo part question: one is there any place to download new screeensavers for linux and two: where are they to be places so the gnome screensaver option finds them?09:49
websitenot by name (i changed the name of a downloaded package)09:50
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marcin_antpaer: "Entries close on January 31st, 2005" so, it could be nice to see some news about this competition09:50
websitethanks [amasimak] 09:50
randabis-laptopI don't know...it hasn't been officially announced (the name change), but it is likely that the change will be announced soon09:50
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paermarcin_ant: yea I saw that. sad I didn't see it before, would have been nice trying to participate09:50
Slavenare there any good video editing programs for Linux out ther?09:50
randabis-laptopwebsite, synaptic will do dependency checks yes09:51
Slavenlike the ones that come out of the box with Windows and Mac OS X?09:51
randabis-laptopSlaven, I've heard good things about Kino09:51
randabis-laptopit's pretty basic though09:51
nicodiemusGood video editing programs come out of the box with Windows/09:51
tux_Slaven, theres a few, check synaptic09:51
randabis-laptopthere are others09:51
nicodiemusI think i've been using the wrong version!09:51
websiterandabis-laptop, dependencise check if different to discover if a package is stable inot ubuntu system or not09:51
Slavennicodiemus: No... that came out wrong. :D09:51
nicodiemusHehe.09:52
nicodiemus:D09:52
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Slavenbut I've heard some good stuff about the OS X program, though.09:52
liquiddanilo_ will i be able to retrieve the files at the end of it?09:52
SlavenI'm checking Kino out.09:52
randabis-laptopwebsite, yeah, and thus a lot of debian packages can work seemlessly with ubuntu09:52
nicodiemusYeah, OSX is actually good for video editing.09:52
otroean2hi i'm using a Epson Stylus Photo R300 through an windows xp machine and the priting from linux is very slow. The test page took 10-15 minutes09:52
randabis-laptopSlaven, iMovie?09:52
nicodiemusAnd most camcorders i've seen just... work.09:53
liquiddanilo_ the files i want add up to 9.2 gig s09:53
randabis-laptopsupposedly it is very good09:53
Orbohi, I just reinstalled ubuntu after a brief and semi-unsuccessful stint with gentoo09:53
Slavenrandabis: yes.09:53
apokryphosrandabis-laptop: I must be real silly, but I can't see the location for the download of Hoary...09:53
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hituhey i have a ps2 mouse .. so should i select /dev/psaux or /dev/input/mice ?09:53
apokryphosrandabis-laptop: Cancel that. I am being silly. =)09:53
randabis-laptopapokryphos, you don't have to download an iso09:53
randabis-laptopchange your sources.list09:53
OrboI'm currently adding servers back to my repository list and I can't seem to remember one of them, I think It had something to do with source9 or something similar?09:53
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websitehitu second one09:54
Slavenwe're shooting a couple of movies this year, and I thought I'd give Linux software a try.09:54
hituthanks09:54
apokryphosrandabis-laptop: Just realised. Thanks. =)09:54
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nicodiemusTbph, Slaven, i don't know any good F/OSS video editing packages for LInux.09:54
randabis-laptopyou may have to run apt-get -f install if anything fails during your dist-upgrade09:54
nicodiemusIf you find one, i'd certainly like to know. ;)09:54
sirjackalotsorry xchat closed on me before i could get the answer to my questions if anyone answered09:55
thundrcleezeI'm sure they exist, Slaven09:55
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nicodiemusThere are some neat commercial packages around.09:55
paersirjackalot: what is your question?09:56
nicodiemusSmoke and Mirrors or something. Big workstation style stuff.09:56
HrdwrBoBnicodiemus: Broadcast 2000c09:56
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HrdwrBoBBroadcast2K is dead, you should try Cinelerra (http://heroinewarrior.com/cinelerra.php3) and Kino/dvgrab (http://kino.schirmacher.de/).09:56
sirjackalotanyone know how to make a virtual network card with vmware? that was one of them and the is how do you add new screensavers and is there a place to find new ones?09:56
nicodiemusHrdwrBoB, Really? /me hits google09:56
sirjackaloterr sorry about the name09:56
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bigbubbathere09:56
LinkMasterSabAnyone have any idea why my sound quality might be shit on Ubuntu and great on Windows?09:56
paerbigbubba: i have no idea, sorry09:57
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bigbubbano big deal09:57
nicodiemusIt appears to have been superceded.09:57
bigbubbajust have winblows running in a vm and thought i would try to get it to connect to the net09:57
SlavenLinkMasterSab: Missing drivers.09:57
Slavenlsmod | grep snd09:57
liquiddanilo_ , if i use the '-r' command to try to move a folder, it giive s m the input output error, if i use the 'v' command it says "ommitting directory"09:57
bigbubbaonly rpoblem is i don't know how to link it to the existing ethernet card09:58
helphpw do i edit my x config09:58
helpneed to change color depth09:58
help?09:58
LinkMasterSabSlaven: Okay, so what am I looking at here?09:58
paerhelp: sudo gedit /etc/X11/XF86Config09:58
SlavenLinkMasterSab: Your loaded sound modules (drivers).09:59
paerhelp: add "-4" to that09:59
LinkMasterSabOkay, but how does that help me?09:59
Slavencheck lspci as well09:59
Slavensee if you can find your sound card.09:59
randabis-laptophey I've found some links for you guys looking for video editing on linux10:00
Slavenrandabis: post.10:00
LinkMasterSab0000:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801BA/BAM AC'97 Audio (rev 05)10:00
helphow do i edit my resolutions in x cfg without messing it up??10:00
helpand how do i make a backup whats cmd10:00
randabis-laptophere's one10:00
randabis-laptopmore to follow10:00
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randabis-laptophttp://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxCommercialApplications.html10:00
paeranyone here knows if I can make a desktop link to a X-Chat channel? that is, just double-click the icon and it will open XChat and connect to #ubuntu@freenode?10:01
randabis-laptophttp://www.mainconcept.com/products.shtml10:01
LinkMasterSabIf you tell me I need to buy a new sound card, I'll just go back to Windows :|10:01
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SlavenLinkMasterSab: lsmod | grep snd_ac97_codec <-- that give you anything?10:01
paerhelp: cp thefile thefile-backup10:01
randabis-laptophttp://kino.schirmacher.de/10:01
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randabis-laptophttp://heroinewarrior.com/cinelerra.php310:01
LinkMasterSabSlaven, yes.10:01
randabis-laptophttp://fixounet.free.fr/avidemux/10:01
LinkMasterSabA few things.10:02
helpany one gunna answer10:02
Slavenhm... I hade the same problem10:02
Slavenon Gentoo10:02
randabis-laptopthose are probably the most common ones10:02
LinkMasterSab... Did you fix it?10:02
help...10:02
SlavenLinkMasterSab: Yes, by compiling the ac97_codec and loading it.10:02
LinkMasterSabOkay.10:03
Slavenbut you already have it loaded.10:03
LinkMasterSab:(10:03
Slavenso I don't think my situation is applicable here.10:03
randabis-laptopyeah was just gonna say that10:03
bitfooHEY10:03
bitfoothat cinelerra looks cool O_O10:03
Slavenrandabis: thanks, I'll check them out.10:03
randabis-laptopyou're welcome10:03
sampsaquit10:03
LinkMasterSabFor some reason, adjusting the Master volume doesn't do anything10:04
bzbbhow do I connect to a printer shared over samba?10:04
SlavenLinkMaster: Hm.10:05
randabis-laptophave to know the path to the printer10:05
randabis-laptopthen you can use that path to add the network printer with the gnome printing utility10:05
Slavendo you use the volume controller in gnome?10:05
LinkMasterSabThe volume changes if I mess with PCM, PCM2, or Headphone10:05
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LinkMasterSabThat's what I'm trying10:05
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marcin_antcould someone tell me how to set misc-fixed as gnome-terminal font?10:05
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LinkMasterSabmarcin_ant: Edit > Current Profile10:05
terry_can I upgrade to hoary??10:06
liquidboycan you burn dvds  with the ubuntu live cd? or cds if i have another cd burner drive10:06
liquidboy?10:06
randabis-laptopif you want to yes you can terry_10:06
marcin_antLinkMasterSab: there is no misc fixed on this list10:06
SlavenLinkMasterSab: Is PCM at highest possible volume?10:06
LinkMasterSabOh.10:06
terry_what are the repositories??10:06
LinkMasterSabSlaven: No, that really blasted the speakers.10:06
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LinkMasterSabmarcin_ant, sorry, no idea.10:06
randabis-laptopgenerally all you have to do is change "warty" to "hoary" in your sources.list terry_10:06
SlavenLinkMasterSab: Even if you turned down the volume on the speakers? 8)10:06
thundrcleezeWhy does the printer default to postscript in almost all my apps, and how do I get remove the postscript stuff, since I don't own a postscript printer?10:07
LinkMasterSabSlaven: No, don't be stupid :)10:07
LinkMasterSabSlaven: It seems to be sounding pretty good now10:07
Slavencause I just remembered, I had this problem in Ubuntu just recently as well, and it turned out that I'd set the volume control to low volume and then turned up the speakers.10:07
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LinkMasterSabBut still, it's weird that Master doesn't do anything10:07
Slavenby reversing this, setting the volume at max and turning down the speakers, the sound got much clearer.10:07
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marcin_antLinkMasterSab: do you use gnome-terminal10:08
marcin_ant?10:08
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LinkMasterSabmarchin_ant: Yes10:08
liquidboyfor who ever was heloping me copy files, for some reason, now i have write permission ... so it's all good *scratches head* but at least its working10:08
randabis-laptopI use Terminal :)10:08
marcin_antLinkMasterSab: and with which font?10:08
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LinkMasterSabsystem default :|10:09
LinkMasterSabmonospace 1210:09
terry_what are the repositories for hoary??10:09
bzbbhow do I connect to a windows printer?10:09
terry_Is there a hoary-security??10:09
Slaven(I'm using gnome-terminal with AR PL KaitiM GB 12)10:09
Slaven(a little corny but I like it)10:09
randabis-laptopterry_, yes10:09
danilo_liquid: sorry, I was away... r u still here?10:10
randabis-laptophe just quit :/10:10
shockI LOVE MY GIRL! :D10:10
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shocksorry about the screaming10:10
shock*g*10:10
Mildahi, i have gnoppix 0.8.2.2 now (i've used 0.6.0-rc2 before) a there isn't mplayer, what can i use to play movies?10:10
twentyonehop hop10:10
danilo_randabis: oh, well...10:10
[amasimak] toem ?10:10
SlavenMilda: xine?10:10
[amasimak] totem ?10:10
randabis-laptopgnoppix is a liveCD :p10:10
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dholbachbzbb: can't you search for a network printer in the system's printing dialog, once you shared it in windows?10:11
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MildaSlaven: xine isn't here :(10:11
randabis-laptopMilda, what about totem?10:12
bzbbdholbach, system printing dialog?10:12
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balcim trying to get safepeer for azureus to run correctly, but im getting a java error.  I followed the ubuntu guides instructions for java installation.  azureus works, but gives a error when loading the safepeer plugin.  Has anyone else encountered this?10:12
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dholbachbzbb: desktop -> system -> printer10:12
terry_is warty only for amd64??10:12
randabis-laptopno10:13
bzbbdholbach, I run KDE10:13
paerterry_: no10:13
dholbachterry_: no10:13
terry_is hoary newer or older than warty??10:13
Orbobzbb, which repository didyou use to get KDE10:13
randabis-laptopwarty has i386, ppc, and AMD6510:13
dholbachbzbb: don't know how to do it there10:13
randabis-laptop6410:13
paerterry_: newer10:13
apokryphosterry_:  Newer10:13
randabis-laptophoary is newer10:13
terry_is there an amd64 for hoary??10:13
dholbachterry_: of course10:13
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bzbbOrbo, I have multiverse, universe, and marrilon enabled10:13
bzbbfor warty10:13
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bzbbits kde 3.2.310:14
randabis-laptophe got it from warty universe10:14
terry_so if I change my sources.list to hoary will it grab the 64 bit packages automagically??10:14
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dholbachterry_: if you use amd64 packages already, yes it does10:14
randabis-laptopterry_, probably...10:14
terry_okay cool10:14
liquidboyok, so ive got write permission for my usb hard drive, i tried to write a file to it, but it gave me an I/O error10:14
liquidboyno idea why10:14
terry_yea I installed from an amd64 netinst iso10:14
dholbachterry_: it won't ever try to do something else ;-)10:15
bzbbOrbo, I found the print manager, NM10:15
danilo_liquidboy: hello again. Isn't it flawed?10:15
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Mildarandabis-laptop: thx, i didn't know about totem, but it can't play it ("don't know how to handle video/x-divx... audio/mpeg...")10:15
AndyRwow i have skype working at last on hoary \o/10:15
terry_okay amd64 chroot and all that jazz, anyone know a tutorial on installing mplayer??10:15
liquidboydanilo_ and ti's not displaying all the stuff on the drive10:15
terry_I want the 32bit windows binaries to work10:15
liquidboynow its only showing 1 file10:15
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liquidboybut i know theres hepas more on there10:15
randabis-laptopMilda, probably because it's using totem-gstreamer and doesn't have w32codecs10:15
danilo_liquid: what file?10:16
paerliquidboy: you're sure the disk is properly mounted?10:16
dholbachterry_: it's on the wiki... isnt it?10:16
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liquidboylol, now its showing none10:16
terry_dholbach, could be10:16
paerliquidboy: df -h, does it show you any disk usage?10:16
danilo_liquidboy: it shows some file at random times?10:16
paerliquidboy: are u at terminal or in nautilus?10:16
weblinAnybody know why /etc/acpi/actions/suspend wont suspend my laptop?10:16
liquidboynautilus10:16
paerliquidboy: because, I've been noticing that in nautilus, if I don't have the proper permissions, the folders will disappear from view when I click them once10:17
paerliquidboy: try starting nautilus with sudo10:17
thundrcleezeI can't seem to play any streaming mp3 playlists.   Music Player buffers endlessly and hangs, and xmms gives me the "Open File" dialog.10:17
liquidboyi unmounted it, and mounted it again, but it said "unable... probably no media in the device"10:17
bzbbok, whats the difference between the hpijs and the ljet4 driver for a HP laserjet 1100A?10:17
danilo_liquidboy: try from the terminal. stay root for all the time (sudo su -)10:17
liquidboydanilo_ i cant do that, im using the live cd10:17
paerliquidboy: try "mount" and see if it is mounted?10:17
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dholbachbzbb: does it commend something?10:18
paerisn't "su -" available on live cd?10:18
danilo_liquidboy: oh. isn't sudo available?10:18
liquidboyusbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)10:18
bzbbdholbach, those are the two drivers I could use10:18
thundrcleezeit should be.10:18
terry_it has something about mplayer-386 if I install mplayer-386 on an amd64 system will it automagically chroot or something??10:19
liquidboydanilo_ yes sudo is avaliable, but i havnt had any luck doign anthing with sudo -s10:19
LinkMasterSabHow would I set the default icon for a file type?10:19
paerliquidboy: can u see it on the desktop?10:19
dholbachbzbb: ljet should be okay, if not, you can switch10:19
bzbbok10:19
liquidboypaer, no i cant10:19
liquidboyonly under "disks"10:19
liquidboymount: /dev/sda1 is not a valid block device10:19
danilo_liquidboy: damnit. "gksudo gnome-terminal" works?10:19
apokryphosrandabis-laptop: Sorry to bother you again, and -- not that I can do it just yet -- but with synaptic/apt, what packages would I update now to have Hoary? (I've updated the sources.list)10:20
liquidboydanilo_ yep that seems to work10:20
paerliquidboy: uhm. maybe u will have to try to remove the usb disk, reboot, and put it back again? I have no experience about usb disks10:20
liquidboyhmm10:20
liquidboyyeah10:20
paerapokryphos: apt-get update; apt-get upgrade; apt-get dist-upgrade i would think.10:21
randabis-laptopapokryphos, you have to upgrad everything10:21
randabis-laptopapt-get dist-upgrade10:21
liquidboyive had it in since startup, but this time i unpluged it and pluged it back in again, and it worked (for a bit)10:21
randabis-laptopbrb10:21
Surphazecan anyone help me, every time I try and install a package im getting locale errors.  It seems I am missing the locale its looking for but I have no idea how to fix that10:21
dholbachliquidboy: dmesg | tail -n 10   may give you a clue10:21
SurphazeIll post an url to the error10:21
apokryphoscool10:21
weblinAnybody know why /etc/acpi/actions/suspend wont suspend my laptop?10:21
dholbachSurphaze: sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales10:21
danilo_liquidboy: so, that's the hack: create an image file on the disk with "dd if=/dev/zero of=/mnt/usb/imagefile bs=1M size=(number of megs you need for the backup)"10:21
liquidboydholback, theres alot of 'failed' stuff10:21
Surphazedholbach, that lists the error10:22
liquidboyim going to restart and give it one more go10:22
liquidboyone more question, can i burn cd's / dvd's from the live cd?10:22
danilo_liquidboy: what's the failed stuff?10:23
dholbachdholbach: that should create you the locales you need10:23
danilo_liquidboy: maybe.10:23
apokryphos496 Megs :D. Will see ya'll later ;-)10:23
liquidboyFAT: Directory bread(block 57251) failed10:23
liquidboyscsi2 (0:0): rejecting I/O to offline device10:23
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Surphazedholbach, http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/nSBJrx30.html10:23
liquidboycos i havnt found any in the apps menu10:23
thundrcleezeliquidboy,  yes, you can.10:23
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danilo_liquidboy: that's because you unplugged without umounting10:23
danilo_liquidboy: the errors, i mean10:23
dholbachSurphaze: did you type the whole command?10:24
liquidboyoh right10:24
dholbachSurphaze: did it get on after those warnings?10:24
wm_eddieanybody know how to change the text that appears at the login prompt?10:24
Surphazedholbach, ah yes10:24
Surphazedholbach, now its saying locales is not fully installed or broeken10:24
wm_eddienot the motd the string before that10:24
liquidboythundrcleeze, yes i can burn cds with the live cd?10:24
dholbachSurphaze: sudo apt-get install -f locales10:25
danilo_liquidboy: he's gone...10:25
liquidboyoh right10:25
liquidboyanyway, im rebooting one more go10:25
Mitariohmm, anyone has an idea why my colors are very weird using totem/mplayer xv output on hoary?10:27
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Surphazedholbach, http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/M3DZEW97.html10:29
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terry_can I use the marliat repositories with ubuntu??10:29
emanuelezhello * :)10:29
maximauswm_eddie, you can use "sudo gdmconfig" for some login changes, or just edit the gdm theme and search for "Welcome" to in a text editor.10:29
danilo_Mitario: how did you enable totem on mplayer?10:30
terry_sorry marillatt, I found some repositories for amd6410:30
paerterry_: i'm using it without problems, although the packages are of course unsupported10:30
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Slavennow I've got problems with XMMS again.10:30
maximausterry_, I use it to, but be careful.10:30
irSlaven: whats the problem10:30
ir:P10:30
terry_maxmaus, careful doing what??10:30
terry_if it doesnt work it doesnt work10:31
Slavenagain, this is ONLY when I run music files from nautilus10:31
dholbachSurphaze: did you hack up any /etc/*locale* -file?10:31
emanuelezmy nautilus does not navitate to applications:/// anymore. any hint?10:31
Slavenand ONLY when I double-click on the file, not if I right-click -> open with "xmms"10:31
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Surphazedholbach, no, but when updating I might have told it to take the mainter one10:31
danilo_emanuelez: it's disabled in hoary10:31
Slavenso I did at test10:31
paerterry_: the system may break on broken or incompatible packages10:31
maximausterry_,  you can potentially screw things up by using the marillat repositories is something I heard int he rumour mill...10:31
Slavenletting a pyscript delay the starting of xmms a second10:31
Slavento see what happens10:32
emanuelezdanilo_: oh ok... so... how do i add items to the menu?10:32
Slavenand to my great surprise, the song started anyway.10:32
Slavenlike if played by mplayer10:32
maximausemanuelez, just right click in the menu and you'll get a context menu offering you the opportunity.10:32
Slavenand then, after one second, as I had ordered, started XMMS.10:32
Mitariodanilo_, i ddin't i mean, i tried those two10:32
Mitarioso with xv video output I get garbled colors10:32
danilo_emanuelez: i think you can't, for now... the menu editing app is being replaced10:32
Slavenwhich ofcourse complains on another program already using the output!10:33
danilo_Mitario: what shows xvinfo?10:33
emanuelezseems like danilo_ is right10:33
danilo_Slaven: which program?10:33
Slavendoesn't say.10:33
Mitariodanilo_, too much ;)10:33
danilo_Slaven: lsof /dev/dsp10:33
emanuelezthat's cool... not that important10:33
maximausdanilo_, I can edit my menus fine with Warty. :)10:33
Slavendanilo_: heh. already tried that.10:33
Slavenyou see.10:33
danilo_maximaus: but not with current hoary10:33
emanuelezmaximaus: hoary here :)10:33
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Slavenread what I write... I've already told you it opens perfectly with right click on the file -> open with "xmms"10:34
dholbachSurphaze: damn... dunno what went wrong at your place10:34
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Slavenor xmms <filename> in commandline10:34
maximaussilly hoary then.10:34
Slaventhis is obviously some problem with nautilus10:34
terry_ubuntu doesnt install much by default eh10:34
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Surphazedholbach, im not sure either, its been doing this since install, same disk worked fine on another machine10:34
emanuelezanother problem... my usb pendrive does not automount anymore... no /dev/sda1 so i don't know how to mount it manually10:34
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emanuelezmaximaus: not silly... just beta software... being developed as we use it.. and test it :)10:35
Croccifixioeyequeue sup,pm10:35
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danilo_Slaven: it works for me... which output plugin are u using?10:35
danilo_emanuelez: what happens when you umount it?10:36
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emanuelezdanilo_: well... i cannot umount it since i can't mount it :(10:36
danilo_you're lucky... i get a hard freeze when I umount my cdrom10:37
danilo_:-/10:37
emanuelezdaniels: wow LOL10:38
emanuelezdanilo_: :-S10:38
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cubexhello everyone10:38
emanuelezdanilo_: so i guess gnome-volume-manager is broken uh?10:38
emanuelezhi cubex10:38
cubexi just paid a visit to #debian on irc.oftc.net, and well, they weren't very friendly....10:38
danilo_emmanuelez: a little bit. #5446, I think10:39
cubexheyyy, at least somebody said hi :)10:39
Croccifixiocubex dont worry g=here everyione is freundly, i was suprised yesterday10:39
Slavendanilo: ALSA.10:39
emanuelezcubex: that's why i switched to ubuntu LOL10:39
Surphazedholbach, well im just noticing there is no module for iso8859-110:39
cubexhehe10:39
danilo_Slaven: try with oss, or esd...10:39
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Surphazeonly a 2 and on10:39
cubexwell, i've been trying to learn some more about ubuntu, i just installed it yesterday... i wanna know what are the major differences between ubuntu and debian?10:40
cubexthere aren't much talks about on google10:40
Guy_Montagbwuahaha10:40
dholbachSurphaze: utf-8 is the future10:40
LinkMasterSabAny chance I could get DirectX progs working under Wine?10:40
cubexi mean, why not just run debian-unstable?10:40
emanuelezcubex: well... ubuntu is gnome centered...10:40
Croccifixiowell10:40
Surphazedholbach, so try changing it to utf8?10:40
Croccifixiofirst of all10:40
danilo_cubex: just look at ubuntu-users... theres' pretty much traffic10:40
terry_Can you get Xorg in ubuntu repositories??10:40
cubexwell, debian is... ?10:40
Guy_MontagIs anyone familiar with bittorent installation on ubuntu?10:40
Croccifixiothe name is completely different, ubuntu doesnt sound like debian at all10:40
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dholbachSurphaze:  suer10:40
danilo_terry_: yes, it's the default X10:40
cubexCroccifixio oh c'mon ;)10:41
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Croccifixioas for the rest10:41
Croccifixiogoogle10:41
emanuelezcubex: debian is whatever u want it to be LOL10:41
Croccifixio***whistles***10:41
terry_in hoary or warty?? danilo?? Cause mine installed XFree86 4.310:41
terry_from debian10:41
max-coffeeGuy_Montag, you wanna install a BT client?10:41
Guy_Montagyup10:41
iocasteGuy_Montag: as long as you've got Python running, you can use BitTorrent10:41
cubexabd ubuntu is....?10:41
Guy_Montagthere's a wiki on it10:41
danilo_terry_: hoary, sorry10:41
Guy_Montagbut a package seems to be a bit off10:41
Slavenhuh10:41
Croccifixiocubex whatever you dont want an os to be :P10:41
Schaapthe dictionary in ubuntu, is it stored in one file? if so, where?10:41
Slavendet r sox som gr igng10:41
terry_danilo, okay upgrading to hoary now anyways10:41
Schaapi want to display random words with meanings on my website :)10:42
Guy_Montag" sudo apt-get install libwxgtk2.4-python bittorent"10:42
Guy_Montagcomes up with10:42
danilo_terry_: good luck!10:42
Guy_Montag"Package libwxgtk2.4-python is not available, but is referred to by another package."10:42
max-coffeeSlaven, det r Svensk frbud hr...shhhh10:42
cubexthing is, i know apt is great10:42
terry_danilo, why is hoary really unstable??10:42
Guy_Montagnot sure on what to do10:42
emanuelezcubex: well.. ubuntu is better configured... no need to get crazy to get automount working and so on... at least with stable version...10:42
cubexhaving updated packages is even better10:42
Slavenmax-coffee: SHIT :D10:42
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Croccifixioanybody here VERY familiar with ubuntu servers? i mean using it without the gdm ?10:42
KlaasVaagGuy_Montag: apt-cache search python |grep wxgtk ?10:42
danilo_terry_: no, but there's always the risk10:42
Slavenanyway, it's sox that starts10:43
max-coffeeGuy_Montag, just use Azureus like the rest of us. :P10:43
Slavenand /usr/bin/play10:43
KlaasVaagtry to find a similar package.. its probably renamed slightly10:43
terry_danilo_, been running debian unstable for like 3 years, I like risks10:43
Guy_Montagthanks Klass - what does that translate to in english?10:43
cubexbut i don't know... i just don't want to be stuck somewhere10:43
Slavenisn't that strange? only when I start xmms by double-clicking on a file in nautilus10:43
terry_sometimes experimental(when new versions of gnome come out)10:43
Croccifixioanybody here VERY familiar with ubuntu servers? i mean using it without the gdm ?10:43
emanuelezcubex: stuck? what do u mean?10:43
KlaasVaagit searches for all packages with python in the name or desription.. and then filters out all ocurrences with wxgtk in the name/description10:43
danilo_Slaven: something's wrong... nautilus is lying! ;-)10:43
cubexwell you know how you get stuck to a certain distribution?10:43
terry_danilo, only tried Ubuntu cause I felt obligated after they sent me a whole wack of CDs10:43
tritiumCroccifixio, don't repeat please10:43
Guy_Montagok10:44
cubexyou configure it, spent time on it, customize, etc...10:44
Guy_Montaglet's see what happens...10:44
Slavendanilo_: I got it from ps aux, are you suggesting that ps aux is lying? are you? huh? huh? ;)10:44
cubexand then if it stops getting support, you're stuck10:44
Slavenps aux is NEVER lying.10:44
Slavenit sees all and KNOWS ALL10:44
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dreamwavei'm using the  live hoary CD.  so far, all is wonderful.  but... my resolution is at 640x480.  How do I increase it? I've got a Dell inspirion 8200 with the nvidia gforce440go video card.10:44
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danilo_terry: definitely, you know your way10:44
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cubexto be honest, it's the same feeling i had when i first tried gentoo.. problem is, i come from a gentoo background, where 0day stuff is pretty common... but i'm tired of10:44
[amasimak] do anybody know if it is by design that dma is not enabled for my cdrom drive, or if it is a bug ?10:44
cubex... of compiling all day long10:44
KlaasVaagGuy_Montag: it comes with an alternative package probably.. and then you should install that..10:45
tarzeau[amasimak] : it's ok10:45
emanuelezcubex: i know what u mean... well.. i never got stuck so far with ubuntu... the community is very good. packages are updated very often.10:45
cubexemanuelez so can you just tell me why not debian-unstable?10:45
tarzeauemanuelez: do they have an online list of pkgs, like packages.d.o ?10:45
cubexemanuelez i'm really just trying to make up my mind here10:45
Guy_Montagok10:45
Guy_Montagodd10:45
Guy_Montagit doesn't come up with any packages10:45
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KlaasVaagi know for a fact that it is in hoary.. maybe you could consider upgrading?10:46
terry_okay thanks alot everybody, I think me and Ubuntu will get along just nicely10:46
Guy_Montaghmmm10:46
danilo_cubex: if yoy are a gnome user, and you want a stable desktop, ubuntu can be right for you. if you end up running kde and unstable... well, there's not much difference10:46
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cubexdanilo_ but can't i use kde with ubuntu?10:46
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KlaasVaagcubex: you can10:46
emanuelezcubex: better support, better community. all u can do with ubuntu can be done with debian. but if it happens u get stuck then u'll most likely find a solution here. #debian people are way too posh LOL10:47
KlaasVaagwithout any problems..10:47
Slavenhm10:47
Slavenit worked out well10:47
danilo_cubex: yes, but it's the same packages from debian.10:47
agx[Q]  if i use KDE under ubuntu and install some package it is not showed up into the menu, why/how?10:47
cubexemanuelez yeah, i figured that out myself today10:47
SlavenI just disabled previewing audio files in nautilus configuration. d'oh.10:47
danilo_cubex: the community is really, really nice10:47
emanuelezcubex: if u're a kde fan then ubuntu is not the distro for u LOL maybe u should try mepis10:47
Guy_MontagI'm not sure what version I'm using - how do I check to see if it's warty or hoary?10:47
cubexdanilo_ but how "ubuntu'ized" are they?10:47
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Slavencan't see how anyone would think it's a good idea to preview audio on doubleclicking, but now it works.10:47
helpanyone in here ever install unreal tournament ?10:47
KlaasVaagGuy_Montag: check /etc/apt/sources.list for the deb-lines..10:48
cubexemanuelez mepis is debian too?10:48
Guy_Montagok10:48
cardadorhelp: i did10:48
helpswweeet10:48
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helpwhat did u put for path10:48
danilo_cubex: very little, for now. but in the future, it's going to change (it's changing already)10:48
helpinstall path and link path10:48
cardadorhelp: unreal tournament 2004?10:48
danilo_cubex: see Kubuntu page on the wiki10:48
helpi dunno how/what10:48
helpno10:48
Gigscan someone please seed the amd64 iso torrent for warty?  I have a T3 and will leave mine running a while after10:48
emanuelezcubex: indeed10:48
helpnormal ut10:48
agx[Q]  if i use KDE under ubuntu and install some package it is not showed up into the menu, why/how?10:48
cubexdanilo_ is there a reason for this fork?10:49
Guy_Montagwarty 4.1010:49
cardadorhelp: install path should be smt like /home/help/ut/10:49
Guy_Montagwhat is it up to now?10:49
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cardadorhelp: link path -> /home/help/10:49
danilo_cubex: don't know if it's really a fork or a collaboration. but the release times at least can't be the same10:49
helpwhat about this /usr/local/games/ut10:49
KlaasVaagGuy_Montag: dont know.. im with hoary now..10:49
manson_dgshola10:49
Guy_Montagheh10:49
Guy_Montagok10:49
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KlaasVaagcheck the site..10:49
cubexdanilo_ no i meant ubuntu forking from debian10:49
Guy_Montagwhat's the fastest way to update?10:49
manson_dgsde donde son en esta sala10:50
cardadorhelp: to install to that path youll need permission10:50
Surphazedholbach, ah ha!10:50
cardadorhelp: try to install it with sudo10:50
helpno wonder10:50
helpk10:50
KlaasVaagGuy_Montag: graphically or using apt directly?10:50
Guardiannhello boys10:50
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KlaasVaagsynaptic does a nice job actually10:50
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helpzazeem@workgroup:~ $ sudo ut-install-436-GOTY.run10:50
helpsudo: ut-install-436-GOTY.run: command not found10:50
Guy_Montageh, apt is good10:50
helpif i use sh it works10:50
helplol10:50
help:(10:50
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cubexOMG! It even powered off my PC!! Fedora didn't even do it on x6410:50
danilo_cubex: because debian is the best in the world to be used as base for an os, it's rock solid and everything but it lacks good release mgmt10:50
Guy_Montagis there a GUI for updating?10:51
KlaasVaagok.. change all occurances of 'warty' in /etc/apt/sources.list to 'hoary'10:51
=== cubex thanks UBUNTU :)
regeyaexcellent.10:51
KlaasVaagthen hit: apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade10:51
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KlaasVaagGuy_Montag: there is.. but what i just said should work correctly..10:51
cubexregeya use ubuntu ;)10:51
nunofgshey guys, I can see that xmltv is on the universe repository through google, but it doesnt show up on my synaptic... I want to install mythtv and I need it10:51
Guy_Montagheh10:51
Guy_Montagok10:51
SchaapHey, where are the fortune files located?10:51
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Guy_Montaglet's try that and see what happens10:51
KlaasVaagGuy_Montag: good luck..10:51
cubexdanilo_ well, then why not just take the packages and layer release management on top of it? why customize packages?10:51
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danilo_nunofgs: enable universe repos10:52
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KlaasVaagGuy_Montag: i'll be away for a while.. im sure others will help you further.. else you can always PM me..10:52
cubexdanilo_ isn't that like splitting hairs?10:52
nunofgsdanilo_: it is10:52
Guardianndanilo your a busy man10:52
danilo_cubex: don't know... maybe to provide better desktop integration10:52
danilo_nunofgs: have you reloaded (updated)?10:52
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danilo_Guardiann: :-)10:53
nunofgsdanilo_: yep. I'm actually doing a dist-upgrade right now, since I installed from warty yesterday10:53
nunofgsdanilo_: but I have main, universe and multiverse enabled10:53
cubexdanilo_ oh well, i've got nothing to lose, i can use it for the next couple of months and see what it can do. if something goes wrong, i'll just move my /home somewhere else10:53
danilo_nunofgs: so, it's working10:53
cubexthanks a lot guys, i really mean it :D10:53
nunofgsdanilo_: yes, but xmltv doesn't show up. can you check if it shows up for you please?10:53
danilo_cubex: that's the reason why i switched to ubuntu: try something new ;-)10:53
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cubexyyep10:53
Guardianncubex I think you will like ubuntu10:53
danilo_... and still be with debian, somehow (look at the developers' names)10:54
cubexGuardiann first impressions matter you know10:54
Guardiannthey sure do10:54
cubexGuardiann and ubuntu really got it10:54
cubexGuardiann http://www.ramikayyali.com/archives/2005/02/01/ubuntu10:54
cubexthat's my personal first impression10:54
danilo_nunofgs: could be in hoary only...10:54
Guardiannthats why I installed and I keep it now cause I am really liking it10:54
cubexGuardiann let's just hope it'll stay updated10:55
Guardiannso far so good10:55
Guardiannwarty has been rock solid for me10:55
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luis_oy.10:55
luis_so10:55
cubexGuardiann but i think i'll just upgrade to hoary10:55
nunofgsdanilo_: :(10:55
GuardiannHoary has been as well with a couple of small glitches10:55
nunofgsdoes anyone have mythtv working on ubuntu?10:55
cubexGuardiann i neeeed X.org10:55
Guardianni am running hoary on this machine10:56
Guardiannabout 2 weeks now10:56
cubexGuardiann stable?10:56
Guardiannfor me yes10:56
danilo_nunofgs: try 'apt-cache policy kmail'. (it's a universe pkg). what shows?10:56
cubexGuardiann no crashes, no hacked fixed?10:56
GuardiannNope and I have updated every day for 2 weeks10:57
helpis it better than warty??10:57
cubexGuardiann i think i'm falling in love10:57
Guardiannlol hey I am married10:57
cubexhelp it has X.org10:57
Guardiann:)10:57
cubexloll10:57
nunofgsdanilo_: installed: (none) candidate: 4:3.2.2-2 etc etc10:57
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dreamwaveis there a graphical X configurator thingie in ubuntu live?10:57
helpx.org?10:57
cubexhelp the new xfree8610:57
danilo_nunofgs: then universe is enabled.10:57
danilo_nunofgs: you'll have to upgrade, wait, or backport it10:58
cubexerrr10:58
cubexit's help: the new xfree8610:58
cubexwhy in the world would i want to help xfree86?!!10:58
cubexwell, i guess i'll go now play with ubuntu.....10:59
Guardiannhave fun :)10:59
cubexthanks a lot everything :)10:59
helpmeaning runs games better?10:59
helpwithout pipe break10:59
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danilo_cubex: have fun10:59
helpcubex10:59
helptry10:59
helpenemy territory10:59
cubexhelp: yyep, you better try it10:59
helpand tell me if it works10:59
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cubexhelp: i will, and get back to you10:59
cubexbut for now..10:59
helpthnx :D10:59
Guardiannnow i bet he was a warty user :)10:59
helpits free10:59
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cubexbye11:00
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helpbye11:00
help:)O11:00
liquidboyso, how do i burn a cd from the live cd then?11:00
luis_hrm11:00
AndyRhow do i edit menu's in hoary? nautilus applications:///Internet doesnt work11:00
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luis_what is the text X configurator? or is hoary still preferring editing of the config files by hand if initial install fails?11:00
danilo_AndyR: doesn't still work in hoary, sorry11:01
AndyRis there another way?11:01
nunofgsbtw, last night I formatted, installed a clean warty, changed all the repositories to hoary and let it upgrade everything. In the morning everything was horribly broken. X wouldn't start, there was no font server... a huge mess11:02
AndyRnunofgs, rerun it, mine failed first time11:03
nunofgsAndyR: already fixed up my warty :/ dont feel like ruining it11:03
AndyRoh ok11:03
hituhey where can i check my boot-up logs11:04
hitui think i saw somethin like "emu10k1 disabled in configuration" or somethin11:04
HrdwrBoBhitu: that's correct11:04
HrdwrBoBthat's the OSS driver11:04
HrdwrBoBubuntu uses ALSA11:04
AndyRany other united kingdom ubuntu users here?11:04
hituis it normal ?11:04
HrdwrBoBthe sound drivers are stull loaded11:04
hitumy sound works though11:04
HrdwrBoByes, that's normal11:04
KlaasVaagGuy_Montag: any luck?11:04
HrdwrBoByes11:04
hituokay11:05
HrdwrBoBthat's because there's two emu10k1 drivers11:05
hitualso my DVD-Rom doesn get detected11:05
hitui tried the ubuntuguide11:05
hitudidn help11:05
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nunofgsso, nobody has mythtv installed on ubuntu?11:06
hitumount: mount point /media/cdrom is a symbolic link to nowhere11:06
christor_Hello, I have a problem of Keyboard which is configured fine into Gnome but not on a console mode. It is a problem to login to Gnome using gdm . How modify Keyboard option?11:06
hituoh well its a Combo drive CD-RW/DvdRom11:06
KlaasVaaghitu: tried 'mount /dev/cdrom /mnt' ?11:06
KlaasVaagor replace /mnt by any folder you like it to be mounted :)11:07
spiralKlaasVaag: why on ubuntu ? they are lsb compliant & use /media11:07
christor_hitu: please take a look if your folder /media/cdrom exisst11:07
hitumount: special device /dev/cdrom does not exist11:07
KlaasVaagspiral: ok.. im not aware of that..11:07
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christor_hitu: Take a cat /etc/fstab11:07
hituroot@kinky:/home/hitu # ls /media/11:08
hitucdrom11:08
Dreamer3_kinky lol11:08
liquidboydoes anyone know?11:08
Guy_Montagoh11:08
Guy_Montaghey Klass11:08
hituehehe11:08
Guardiann:)11:08
hitu/dev/hdc        /media/cdrom   udf,iso9660 ro,user,auto  0       011:08
KlaasVaaghey Guy_Montag11:08
amblinanyone running hoary on a t40 laptop, having problems with builtin wifi nic(ipw2100) resetting or generally being slow?11:08
hitucdrom is on hdc right ? :S11:08
christor_ok11:08
Guy_Montagtrying to edit sources.list11:08
KlaasVaaghitu: it can be :)11:08
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Guy_Montagbut don't have the permissions11:08
christor_hitu: mount /dev/hdc11:08
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Guy_Montaghow...11:08
Guy_Montaghum11:08
KlaasVaagGuy_Montag: try 'sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list'11:09
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christor_It will mount in /media/cdrom11:09
Guy_Montagthere's SU11:09
luis_hrm11:09
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hitumount /dev/hdc11:09
hitumount: mount point /media/cdrom is a symbolic link to nowhere11:09
Guy_Montagok11:09
luis_sweret11:09
luis_fresh install of the latest daily left me with a blank /etc/X11/xorg.conf11:09
KlaasVaagGuy_Montag: of course you could replace nano by your favourite text editor11:09
andrewskimy CD-ROM will mount for data CDs, but will not read for audio discs; can anyone help?11:09
christor_hitu: I understand try this mount /dev/hdc /media/cdrom011:09
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Guy_Montagok11:10
Guy_Montagyeaahhh11:10
Guy_Montagnano does not seem to be installed11:10
snoopdoggi need help?11:10
Guy_Montaggedit will work correct11:10
Guy_Montag?11:10
KlaasVaagsure11:10
christor_Ohoh try a little question : What is your favorite  editor?11:10
hitudoesn work either christor_11:10
KlaasVaagGuy_Montag: any editor will do11:10
Guy_Montagod11:10
Guy_Montager11:11
Guy_Montagodd11:11
christor_hitu: what message?11:11
hitumount: mount point /media/cdrom0 does not exist11:11
hitu:P11:11
snoopdoggi need help and send me if u have a ps2 pls?11:11
Guy_Montag"Unknown id: gedit11:11
Guy_Montag"11:11
Guy_Montagsame with nano11:11
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hitusnoopdogg: whats that11:11
christor_hitu: lol ok mkdir /media/cdrom0 (it s a "0" and not a "o"11:11
KlaasVaagGuy_Montag: you are in a Gnome now?11:11
Follettoma esiste ut per ubuntu ?11:11
Guy_Montagyup11:11
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hituyah "0"11:12
hitu:D11:12
KlaasVaagGuy_Montag: open synaptic then11:12
Guy_Montagsynaptic?11:12
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christor_hitu:  it works?11:12
hituworks11:12
hituthanks11:12
hitu:D11:12
Guy_Montagthis is so different from solaris... *shakes head*11:12
andrewskican anyone help me figure out why my CD-ROM will not read audio discs?11:12
Dreamer3_Guy_Montag: solaris? :)11:12
Dreamer3_Guy_Montag: what's diff?11:12
Dreamer3_andrewski: not read or not play?11:13
KlaasVaagGuy_Montag: its somewhere in your menus :)11:13
Guy_Montagold, clunky, no nice apps11:13
andrewskiDreamer3_: both. :)11:13
christor_hitu:  to not have problem modify your /etf/fstab with media/cdrom to media/cdrom0 youo will be able to us mnt /dev/hdc further11:13
Dreamer3_andrewski: it reads data discs?11:13
andrewskiDreamer3_: yes.11:13
hituoh yah did that christor_ :)11:13
snoopdogghttp://www.supercheats.com/playstation2/walkthroughs/onimusha3demonsiege-walkthrough03.txt11:13
snoopdoggi am on leavle 711:13
liquidboyum, is anyone going to answer me?11:14
andrewskiyes. :P11:14
snoopdoggi need help?11:14
andrewskiany ideas Dreamer3_?11:15
HrdwrBoBsnoopdogg: you're telling me11:15
Guy_Montagaha11:15
Guy_Montagfound it11:15
AndyRanyone found a way to edit menus in hoary?11:15
KlaasVaaggreat..11:15
Guy_Montagpackage update GUI..11:15
Guy_Montagahh11:15
KlaasVaaggo to preferences: repositories..11:15
snoopdoggi need help?11:15
andrewskiAndyR: which DE?11:15
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Guy_Montagcheck11:15
snoopdoggall11:15
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KlaasVaagGuy_Montag: settings->repositories actually..11:15
Guy_Montagalready there11:16
HrdwrBoBliquidboy: places: CD creater11:16
AndyRandrewski, gnome11:16
HrdwrBoBcreator11:16
HrdwrBoBdrag files onto it11:16
KlaasVaagand then edit each of the repositories, change warty to hoary11:16
HrdwrBoBfile: burn to cd11:16
andrewskiAndyR: gnome is loading the system menu; you could edit that....11:16
HrdwrBoBor if you want to burn an iso11:16
HrdwrBoBright click it11:16
HrdwrBoBand hit write to disc11:16
HrdwrBoBinserting a blank CD will automagically bring up the CD creator window11:16
liquidboyHrdwrBoB, im not sure i follow you11:16
liquidboydo i write that into a termianl / address bar in nautulus?11:16
Guy_Montagwhat's the first one listing the CD warty?11:17
HrdwrBoBliquidboy: in the menu11:17
KlaasVaagGuy_Montag: leave that alone11:17
HrdwrBoB'places'11:17
Guy_Montagroger11:17
KlaasVaagor remove it...11:17
liquidboywhich menu?11:17
HrdwrBoBthe places menu11:18
HrdwrBoBopen any nautilus window11:18
HrdwrBoBthere is a places menu11:18
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Guy_Montagdone11:18
liquidboyHrdwrBoB, oh right6, found it... so i just drag/drop files there then?11:18
jkkahttp://www.saunalahti.fi/jukkho/Screenshot020205.png11:19
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HrdwrBoBliquidboy: yep11:19
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liquidboyok thanks11:19
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KlaasVaagGuy_Montag: then use: Reload, mark all updates, apply..11:19
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KlaasVaagGuy_Montag: and take a break then :)11:19
HrdwrBoBjkka: ouch -211:19
KlaasVaagmaybe read a 400 page book :P11:19
Guy_Montagooo11:19
Guy_Montaghow long does this usually take over a cable connection?11:20
KlaasVaagbut of course you can do this later also..11:20
snarkyim trying to upgrade to hoary, and i got the error message that follows11:20
snarkyErrors were encountered while processing:11:20
snarky /var/cache/apt/archives/gimp-data_2.2.2-1ubuntu1_all.deb11:20
snarkyE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)11:20
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KlaasVaagGuy_Montag: just do it.. it'll give you an indication..11:20
KlaasVaagand you can always cancel it11:20
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bagpuss_thecatanyone know why Hoary would fail to boot, with the grub error "Error 15: File not found" after an upgrade?11:21
Guy_Montagok11:21
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warty_hi people11:21
bagpuss_thecatthe kernel and initrd images are all present and accesable from the grub command line11:21
Guy_Montagwhat's abiword?11:21
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KlaasVaagGuy_Montag: for me it was a 700 MB download.. but i have kde installed also..11:21
RibsGuy_Montag: a nice alternative to openoffice if you only want a word processor11:22
Guy_Montagah11:22
Guy_Montagok11:22
Guy_Montagcool11:22
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crash-testingwell, i just started the ubunutu live cd but doesnt know the root password..can anyone help please?11:23
HrdwrBoBcrash-testing: there is no root password11:24
snarkycrash-testing: just do sudo passwd11:24
snarkycrash-testing: then you can set it11:24
HrdwrBoBsnarky: please don't just say that11:25
HrdwrBoBcrash-testing: you can use sudo to run things as root11:25
crash-testingah,k,thx snarky11:26
snarkycrash-testing: np11:26
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bitfoobitfoo@horus:~ $ cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/state11:33
bitfoopresent:                 yes11:33
bitfooERROR: Unable to read battery status11:33
bitfoo:(11:33
Stugssalguem do brasil?11:33
bitfooi failed again :|11:33
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netmonkhello11:35
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netmonkcan anyone tell me why I don't see any packages in synaptic even though they are reloaded?11:36
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_mvo_netmonk: do you run it on a apple?11:38
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netmonkyes11:38
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netmonkg3, 300mhz, 288 ram11:39
akurashyis there a way to unzip .rar in ubuntu?11:39
_mvo_netmonk: it's a known bug in the warty version of synaptic that only happens on ppc11:39
netmonkhm...11:39
_mvo_netmonk: there is a updated package available on http://people.ubuntu.com/~mvo/synaptic/warty11:39
snoopdoggi need help?11:39
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mojo__Hello party people!  I got a strange one for ya... Upon login to GNOME I get error that a gnome-panel is already running.  I open a terminal, killall gnome-panel, and gnome-panel& (which works), but next time around it's second verse, same as the first... :/11:40
_mvo_netmonk: remove the /root/.synaptic/ dir before you install the new package11:40
mojo__What is the right way to fix this?  Is this a session manager problem?11:40
crimsunmojo__: are you running hoary? if so, when was the last time you updated && dist-upgraded?11:41
netmonk_mvo_, I could see them 10 minutes ago11:41
mojo__akurashy: You need to apt-get install rar and file roller will then open those for ya11:41
mojo__crimsun: yes, and maybe yesterday or day before11:41
akurashymojo__: i did that and it didnt install11:42
akurashyPackage rar is not available, but is referred to by another package.11:42
akurashyThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or11:42
akurashyis only available from another source11:42
akurashyE: Package rar has no installation candidate11:42
mojo__akurashy: did it give errors?  maybe you didn't sudo the cmd.  I should typed sudo in my example11:42
_mvo_netmonk: the bug is triggered when you open the "preferences" window and it sets all columns to "disabled". so the packages are there, they are just not visible11:42
netmonkaha11:42
netmonk_mvo_, that's exactly what I did11:43
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akurashywith or without sudo is the same, and it didnt install11:43
_mvo_netmonk: http://people.ubuntulinux.org/~mvo/synaptic/warty/synaptic_0.53.4-1ubuntu6_powerpc.deb11:43
mojo__akurashy: so it won't even show up in synaptic?  what version you runnin, hoary or warty?11:43
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netmonk_mvo_, what is this?11:43
akurashywarty11:43
crimsunakurashy: it's in multiverse last I checked11:44
mojo__aku: okay i have hoary set up so maybe it's not there for you, dunno...  maybe google for rar.deb11:44
_mvo_netmonk: it's a updated version. you have to download it and then install it with "sudo dpkg -i synaptic_0.53.4-1ubuntu6_powerpc.deb"11:44
akurashyi have all repo enabled =/11:44
akurashyit doesnt appear =/11:44
crimsunakurashy: are you running hoary or warty?11:44
vishalhi..i need some help with hoary..anyone??11:44
akurashywarty11:45
crimsunakurashy: it's definitely in warty/multiverse: 3.30-2 0 500 http://archive.ubuntu.com warty/multiverse Packages11:45
netmonk_mvo_, do I need to uninstall anything before that?11:45
hituok does nicotine work for any of u guys11:45
crimsunhitu: yes, why?11:45
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hitucrimsun: not connecting for me11:46
hitugot it via apt-get11:46
crimsunmojo__: try this: pkill -u $USER, then log back in11:46
_mvo_netmonk: no, it will just update the synaptic package, nothing more. you will have to reenable all the columns in the preferences window or remove the /root/.synaptic/ dir after the update11:46
akurashycrimsun: can you give me the repo link so i can add it to sources11:47
saifhi every1, just got a network running with 1 windows and 1 ubuntu machines, is their a gui where i can do settings for samba?? i managed to connect to the window machine, but whnever i try to connect to ubuntu i am requested ro provide my username and password, which username and password?!?11:47
vishalhi..i just upgraded warty to hoary and now i can't find synaptic manager..anyone know how i can access it?11:47
mojo__crimsun: okay I can try that... bbiaf11:47
crimsunakurashy: you already have it. Just enable it in Synaptic>Settings>Repositories11:47
akurashyis enabled11:47
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_mvo_vishal: should be in Desktop/Administration/Synaptic11:47
crimsun17:47 < akurashy> is enabled11:47
crimsunerr, sorry11:48
crimsunakurashy: did you Update afterward?11:48
hikaru79If I have a home LAN and I want to be able to SSH amongst all of them (From outside the lan, not just within), but they're all going through the same router and therefore have the same external IP address, how does one connect to a specific machine from the outside?11:48
vishal_mvo..its not there!!11:48
hikaru79Do they all need to have different port ranges?11:48
hikaru79And if so, how do I set an SSH server to listen on differen ports?11:48
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kebac_hikaru79: you set up a port forwarding11:48
akurashycrimsun: yes i reloaded and looked into it, no packages =/11:48
_mvo_vishal: can you try "ALT-F2" and then enter "gksudo /usr/sbin/synaptic"?11:48
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bitfooyes portforwarding on your router :O11:48
kebac_hikaru79: you can set sshd listen ports by tuning /etc/ssh/sshd_config11:48
bitfooyes my precioussss11:49
crimsunakurashy: /join #flood, paste the output of ,,apt-cache policy rar''11:49
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hikaru79Thanks, kebac_ =D11:49
VjazHm... is evolution-data-server really *required* by gnome-panel? It's a dependency, but I'm a bit puzzled.11:49
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mojo__crimsun: that worked, thanks!11:49
hikaru79kebac_, can I choose any unoccupied ports for the others? The first one is 22...so can I use 23, 25, 26, etc?11:50
crimsunmojo__: np. It _should_ be resolved in Hoary...11:50
kebac_hikaru79: sure you can11:50
hikaru79Thanks, kebac_ ^_^11:50
vishal_mvo..i got the password prompt and after that nothing loads up11:50
vishalno error msg either11:50
kebac_hikaru79: you can use any unoccupied port between 1-6553511:50
netmonk_mvo_, how do you make flash work for you?11:50
hikaru79=)11:50
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liquidboyhow do i boot into my ubuntu partition using the live cd? can it be done? (grub is stuffed up cos i installed windows xp)11:51
crimsunliquidboy: yes, just chroot into your ubuntu partition11:51
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hikaru79kebac_, OK, after I've done that, what do I use to restart the sshd server?11:51
mojo__crimsun: I have been on hoary for a while... It didn't show up 'till recently.  If it comes back I'll worry 'bout it more then.11:51
liquidboycrimsun, you mean once ive booted into the live cd the whole way? do i type somethign in the terminal?11:51
crimsunhikaru79: sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart11:51
_mvo_netmonk: swf-player _may_ give you flash. but I don't know if there is a "offical" flash for linux/ppc (sorry I don't own a ppc)11:52
kebac_crimsun got it first :)11:52
kebac_crimsun: but is it not /etc/init.d/sshd restart?11:52
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crimsunkebac_: you need root privileges to restart sshd11:52
crimsunkebac_: so unless you're already root...11:52
hikaru79I think he means you missed a 'd' on 'sshd'11:52
kebac_crimsun: i meant, you typed ssh, not sshd11:53
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crimsunno, it's ssh11:53
kebaccrimsun: ok... i am kinda new to this linux world11:53
vishal_mvo..i got the password prompt and after that nothing loads up11:53
vishalno error msg either11:53
akurashycrimsun: http://pastebin.com/23646811:53
netmonk_mvo_, synaptic works now, thank you :)11:54
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liquidboychroot /mnt/hdb511:54
liquidboychroot: cannot change root directory to /mnt/hdb5: Operation not permitted11:54
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liquidboycrimsun, i dont knwo how to use that command, (obviously :P )...11:55
HrdwrBoBakurashy: backports can and well break upgrade to hoary11:55
KlaasVaagliquidboy: try 'sudo chroot /mnt/hdb5'11:55
crimsunliquidboy: chroot takes a mountpoint and a command as parameters11:55
liquidboyoh right11:55
crimsunliquidboy: thus: chroot /mnt/ubuntupartition /bin/bash11:55
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liquidboycrimsun, the reason i wanted to know is i want to burn files to cd, but i cant do it while in live cd mode - so i need to be able to be running from the linux partition11:56
liquidboydamn the cd still wont eject11:56
crimsunakurashy: sec11:56
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crimsunakurashy: you don't have warty/multiverse enabled11:57
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crimsunakurashy: (it doesn't exist at all in your /etc/apt/sources.list)11:57
aminhi11:57
hikaru79Sweet, works like a charm =)11:57
crimsunakurashy: add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ warty multiverse"11:58
hikaru79I ssh'd into another machine on the LAN and then used that machine's ssh to SSH onto another machine on the LAN and then THAT machine's SSH to ssh back into the computer I was on.11:58
amini've just installed ubuntu good work11:58
crimsunakurashy: then update and install rar11:58
liquidboycrimsun, so then the chroot isnt the command i want, i want to be able to acutally boot from the linux partition, (grub was stuffed by me installing winxp)11:58
aminthen i add gscanbus and plug my DVcam11:58
crimsunliquidboy: after you've booted into the livecd, drop to a shell and run "grub-install && update-grub"11:59
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aminwhen i want to mknod /dev/raw1394 not enougth arguments11:59
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liquidboyinstall_device not specified.11:59
crimsunamin: mknod takes a node type, major number, and minor number as parameters11:59
snarkyhey im trying to upgrade to hoary and i get the following error:11:59
snarkyErrors were encountered while processing:11:59
snarky /var/cache/apt/archives/gimp-data_2.2.2-1ubuntu1_all.deb11:59
snarkyE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)11:59

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