[12:00] <HrdwrBoB> spudse: abiword is in main, that should already be in synaptiv
[12:00] <HrdwrBoB> synaptic
[12:00] <LarstiQ> Espectro: hmm
[12:00] <spudse> i couldnt find it
[12:01] <Espectro> i downloaded this thing because it said that it was the proper live cd build for mac, but it was built against hoary which was a bad idea
[12:01] <spudse> but those packages from sybaptiv get downloaded from the internet right ?
[12:01] <Espectro> i would have liked a stable warty for mac
[12:01] <bitfoo> does anyone here use mplayer :|
[12:01] <HrdwrBoB> spudse: yes
[12:02] <spudse> I dont have a internet connection
[12:02] <spudse> on my laptop
[12:02] <spudse> so i thought to download it to my usbstick
[12:02] <spudse> and install in manually
[12:02] <Espectro> spudse, like i said, man dpkg
[12:02] <LarstiQ> Espectro: me too, but at the warty release there was no ppc livecd yet. Perhaps we can still get one if we ask nicely
[12:02] <spudse> yes i understand, but i need to have the files first
[12:03] <spudse> I need something like abiword.deb i suppose ?
[12:03] <Espectro> yeah, see if they have the debs at the abiword page
[12:03] <avsn> need help here -- is there a default password to su root on the live cd?
[12:04] <LarstiQ> avsn: doesn't sudo just work?
[12:04] <avsn> i went to terminal to do su root
[12:04] <zazeem> hi, i am using totem movie player to watch an avi file but it freezes everytime..:(
[12:04] <zazeem> any sugs
[12:05] <Espectro> try compiling totem yourself
[12:05] <zazeem> ?
[12:08] <avsn> curiosity here who is where
[12:08] <avsn> avsn:seattle usa
[12:08] <Sav> anyone got .wmv files to work? i only get sound, no video
[12:09] <hitu> Sav get the essential codecs from mplayer.hu
[12:10] <Espectro> whee
[12:10] <Sav> hitu, works with vlc?
[12:10] <hitu> dunno
[12:10] <Espectro> i hate your charles de gaulle airport
[12:11] <[amasimak] > :)
[12:11] <Espectro> you need to get on buses to reach the planes, and the drivers went on strike the day i was there
[12:11] <r3v3rb> any bluetooth guru's here tonight ?
[12:11] <hitu> okay
[12:12] <hitu> booting into new kernel
[12:12] <hitu> brb
[12:12] <r3v3rb> i have hoary installed and working, i can transfer files from phone to ubuntu but not the other way. gnome-bluetooth shows the phone but what do i do now ?
[12:12] <r3v3rb> i have also installed obexserver just in case
[12:15] <r3v3rb> noone in 2nite that talks bluetooth ?
[12:15] <gobeavs> when I try to start synaptic, I get: "Error: Failed to run /usr/sbin/synaptic as user root: Child terminated with 1 status"....any ideas?
[12:15] <gobeavs> I reinstalled it via apt, but it still has problems
[12:16] <mebaran151> you sure you running it as root?
[12:16] <mebaran151> maybe you are giving it the wrong password or something
[12:17] <gobeavs> nevermind, ya
[12:17] <AndyRR> gobeavs, are you using the user you setup when you installed?
[12:17] <zazeem> anyone know how to install divx for linux
[12:17] <r3v3rb> zazeem just install xine-ui and its dependancies
[12:17] <zazeem> ?
[12:17] <zazeem> is that divx?
[12:17] <r3v3rb> to watch or encode ?
[12:18] <zazeem> watch
[12:18] <gobeavs> I get confused which ps is root
[12:18] <gobeavs> it wants my regular password
[12:18] <gobeavs> not my "root" password
[12:18] <r3v3rb> use xine its a very good divx/xvid/etc etc player
[12:18] <zazeem> wooot thnx
[12:18] <r3v3rb> or try intalling totem-xine and its dependancies
[12:19] <r3v3rb> as long as xine-lib gets installed you should be okay
[12:19] <AndyRR> gobeavs, i pretty sure you need to be logged in as the first user you setup when you installed
[12:19] <spudse> what is the standard sudo password ?
[12:19] <randabis> spudse, your user password
[12:19] <HrdwrBoB> spudse: your password
[12:19] <r3v3rb> spudse whatever you gave it at install
[12:19] <no0tic> hi
[12:19] <dud> your sudo password is the password for the sudoer
[12:19] <no0tic> I don't want apache to log in access_log SEARCH commands, ho can I do?
[12:19] <r3v3rb> anyone got any idea about the bluetooth ?
[12:20] <spudse> thanks
[12:20] <AndyRR> or logged in as anyone in sudo group?
[12:20] <dud> oh, btw... http://www.dudcore.net/reprofile/ <-- honest opinion on design folks...?
[12:20] <spudse> but the status database area is locked by another proces ?
[12:20] <r3v3rb> dud, the tables arent centred properly...
[12:20] <randabis> you probably have synaptic open spudse
[12:21] <r3v3rb> above each other that is
[12:21] <spudse> yes :)
[12:21] <randabis> spudse, you'll have to close it before you can issue apt-gets
[12:21] <randabis> or dpkg
[12:21] <spudse> okido
[12:21] <r3v3rb> bluetooth bluetooth ra ra raaaa raa
[12:21] <spudse> im getting to learn this linux stuff :)
[12:21] <r3v3rb> help me help me help help me
[12:22] <zazeem> k im playing a divx movie and have sound but no video :'(
[12:22] <dud> r3v3rb, supposed to be centered like that... a bit asymmetrical order makes it more exciting ;)
[12:22] <zazeem> ?
[12:22] <r3v3rb> zazeem, check you have the correct video output in options
[12:23] <zazeem> meaning?
[12:23] <zazeem> wf it works now
[12:23] <r3v3rb> xv is usually good
[12:23] <zazeem> i restarted lol
[12:23] <zazeem> :D
[12:23] <zazeem> tthnx
[12:23] <r3v3rb> that might help
[12:23] <r3v3rb> do i need to mount a bluetooth device ?
[12:24] <gobeavs> AndyRR, thanks for the help but I got it figured out, I had the wrong password
[12:24] <zOap> hile, does ubuntu support gdesklets 0.32*?
[12:24] <zOap> sorry, hi...
[12:24] <AndyRR> gobeavs, ah good
[12:25] <zOap> anybody knows?
[12:25] <kbrooks> zOap, maybe universe
[12:26] <zOap> kkb: universe?
[12:26] <zOap> kkb,
[12:26] <zOap> kb,
[12:26] <r3v3rb> repository ?
[12:26] <kbrooks> yup
[12:26] <zOap> kbrooks, what is that?
[12:27] <kbrooks> see http://www.ubuntuguide.org
[12:27] <zOap> kbrooks, thnx
[12:27] <r3v3rb> bugger, time to go and no bluetooth working,.. :(
[12:27] <kbrooks> zOap, basically its a repoistory of unsupported packages that may or may not be open source
[12:28] <zOap> kbrooks, ok, so ubuntu doesnt oficially support gdesklets?
[12:29] <kbrooks> zOap, maybe. enable it and search synaptic
[12:29] <zOap> kbrooks, havent installed it yet. Just trying to do some research...
[12:29] <K-Rich> i use gdesklets in warty
[12:29] <zOap> ok, then i'll try too.
[12:30] <spudse> i just installed abiword with dpkg, where can i start it now ?
[12:30] <K-Rich> though you need to tell nautilus to open the .displays with gdesklets or you get errors (right click open with)
[12:30] <zOap> what about managing devices and stuff, like libranet's adminmenu? is there anything like that in ubuntu?
[12:30] <zOap> K-r, ok, thanx
[12:30] <FAST> where is a place to get more background images?
[12:31] <zazeem> how do i shutoff the x server?
[12:31] <zazeem> it keeps restarting when i start wolfenstein
[12:31] <r3v3rb> where do i find gdesklets after installing ?
[12:32] <zazeem> ??????????
[12:32] <zazeem> ow do i kill the x server
[12:32] <zazeem> something stop
[12:34] <timello> hi there, where can I put a script to execute evertime that I login between the gdm?
[12:34] <balc> Could someone tell me the linux equivalent to winamp's radio/tv component?  I'd like to have an integrated way to access shoutcast stations without searching through it with a web browser.
[12:35] <timello> s/between/through
[12:36] <spudse> Is a launcher, a shortcut like in windows ?
[12:36] <AndyRR> music player?
[12:36] <shock> ?
[12:36] <FAST> spudse, yes
[12:36] <timello> spudse, is it for me? no a shell script
[12:36] <shock> a launcher is essentially just something you can click on
[12:36] <arturo> hello
[12:36] <zazeem> hi how do i turn x server off in gnome?
[12:36] <shock> hoi
[12:37] <zazeem> it keeps crashing wolfenstein
[12:37] <zazeem> x server off in ubuntu
[12:37] <arturo> i need to install php on my ubuntu system
[12:37] <shock> ermmm the xserver you will need ;)
[12:37] <zazeem> something
[12:37] <shock> apt-cache search php :)
[12:37] <zazeem> it keeps restarting
[12:37] <shock> hm
[12:37] <arturo> but when i use apt-get it doesnt work!
[12:37] <zazeem> it restarts to nvidia logo then login :(
[12:38] <zazeem> i forgot the cmd
[12:38] <timello> spudse, I created a xinitrc, but gdm doesn't read it
[12:38] <zazeem> its lms.... i think something stop
[12:38] <shock> brb
[12:38] <zazeem> k
[12:38] <balc> music player doesnt automatically search shoutcast
[12:38] <spudse> timello, that was a question for myself :) im totally new
[12:39] <dud> zazeem, if you have any experience with inittab and rc you can make it so that init 2 doesnt start gdm, but init 3 does
[12:39] <zazeem> ?
[12:39] <timello> spudse, np :)
[12:39] <zazeem> how do i make it not
[12:40] <zazeem> whats cmd
[12:40] <zazeem> a guy gave me it yesterday
[12:40] <zazeem> but i forgot and reinstalled ubuntu
[12:40] <zazeem> lol
[12:40] <zazeem> it ran et
[12:40] <zazeem> it was something then stop at end
[12:40] <no0tic> how do I eliminate from a file all the lines containing a pattern?
[12:40] <sirukin> ubuntu hates me.
[12:40] <zazeem>  .../.../../ stop
[12:40] <dud> /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[12:40] <dud> i suppose
[12:40] <zazeem> yessssssssss!
[12:40] <zazeem> thnx
[12:41] <sirukin> tried compiling xchat, and I have no perl or python modules
[12:41] <zazeem> ill try it
[12:41] <zazeem> if i hget kicked u know why
[12:41] <LinuxJones> sirukin, why are yo compiling xchat ?
[12:41] <arturo> can somebody help me with my php installantion?
[12:42] <no0tic> root_: you are using xchat & root account?
[12:42] <arturo> anybody?
[12:42] <sirukin> linuxboy, I don't believe in running old ass peice of trash packages.
[12:42] <sirukin> err
[12:42] <sirukin> linuxjones
[12:42] <arturo> nobody :(
[12:42] <zazeem> didnt work :'(
[12:42] <LinuxJones> sirukin, lol
[12:42] <arturo> no
[12:42] <melazyboy2> sirukin: Are you using hoary or warty/
[12:43] <dud> if you think ubuntu warty has old packages, try running debian woody hehe
[12:43] <root_> yeah, very perceptive there no0tic
[12:43] <zazeem> anyone know how to set resolution in login
[12:43] <zazeem> ?
[12:43] <zazeem> its too high i cant see shit
[12:43] <no0tic> root_: it's not a good idea, you know?
[12:43] <ArCHoNKoG> when will hoary be out ?
[12:43] <melazyboy2> take out resolutions you dont want in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:43] <Guardiann> aoril
[12:43] <no0tic> ArCHoNKoG: april?
[12:43] <Guardiann> april
[12:43] <root_> no0tic: why
[12:44] <ArCHoNKoG> is it still buggy ?
[12:44] <zazeem> zazeem@workgroup:~ $ /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:44] <zazeem> bash: /etc/X11/xorg.conf: No such file or directory?
[12:44] <Guardiann> its running well for me
[12:44] <melazyboy2> zazeem: or you can CTRL ALT +/- to change resolutions in either gdm or X
[12:44] <dud> applications with has a non-encrypted interface to external networks shouldnt run as root unless they need
[12:44] <no0tic> root_: root account is for administration tasks, never go out on the internet with it, without protection
[12:44] <AndyRR> hoary seems fine here
[12:44] <sirukin> hmm
[12:44] <sirukin> anyway
[12:44] <dud> s/with/which
[12:44] <melazyboy2> zazeem: Try /etc/X11/XFree86-4
[12:44] <sirukin> I'm done with Ubuntu resolving dependancies all day isn't fun
[12:45] <kbrooks> sirukin, :(
[12:45] <zazeem> bash: /etc/X11/XFree86-4: No such file or directory
[12:45] <zazeem> zazeem@workgroup:~ $ /etc/X11/XFree86-4
[12:45] <trakal> Is there anyway of changing the keyboard layout to dvorak(us/en/ca) in GNOME?
[12:45] <melazyboy2> trakal: Yes type loadkeys dvorak
[12:45] <LinuxJones> sirukin, that's what happens when you compile from source :D
[12:45] <trakal> thanks
[12:45] <no0tic> root_: if you run xchat with root privileges, for example, one can use an xchat bug to gain admin privileges on your machine and mess it up
[12:45] <sirukin> at the end of the day, I'd just like to download the latest distro and compile my packages from source
[12:45] <zazeem> bash: /etc/X11/XFree86-4: No such file or directory
[12:45] <zazeem> zazeem@workgroup:~ $ /etc/X11/XFree86-4
[12:45] <r3v3rb> nite all
[12:45] <zazeem> :|
[12:45] <melazyboy2> trakal: be prepaired to type loadkeys qwerty or loadkeys us, using that typeclass
[12:45] <sirukin> that or a repository that has bleeding edge packages
[12:46] <sirukin> s/distro/app/g
[12:46] <no0tic> root_: is very very safer using another user
[12:46] <timello> zazeem, do you know which file can I put a script to run in the login and logout?
[12:46] <DaviX> greeting people
[12:46] <trakal> melazyboy2: Thanks
[12:46] <zazeem> no
[12:46] <root_> Then I can't mod my system.
[12:46] <Guardiann> hello DaviX
[12:46] <melazyboy2> zazeem: browse there, and look for it, its in /etc/X11/ either xorg.conf or XFree86-4
[12:46] <root_> Permissions suck
[12:46] <zazeem> how do i edit my resolution cfg
[12:46] <DaviX> how are you Guardiann?
[12:46] <melazyboy2> zazeem: 'ls /etc/X11'
[12:46] <no0tic> root_: permissions don't suck, you don't use ubuntu though
[12:46] <Guardiann> I am amazing  but I will get better  thanks for asking
[12:47] <XhyldazhK> Hi all
[12:47] <zazeem> zazeem@workgroup:~ $ ls /etc/X11
[12:47] <zazeem> app-defaults             rstart               xinit       Xsession.options
[12:47] <zazeem> cursors                  sysconfig            xkb         xsm
[12:47] <zazeem> default-display-manager  X                    Xresources  Xwrapper.config
[12:47] <zazeem> fonts                    XF86Config-4         xserver
[12:47] <zazeem> gdm                      XF86Config-4~        Xsession
[12:47] <no0tic> root_: you can gain root previleges to do admin in a shell or via sudo
[12:47] <zazeem> rgb.txt                  XF86Config-4_backup  Xsession.d
[12:47] <XhyldazhK> How do I build a kernel image/headers package?
[12:47] <zazeem> zazeem@workgroup:~ $
[12:47] <zazeem> woops flood
[12:47] <DaviX> how can i make my ubuntu support hebrew?
[12:47] <Guardiann> zazeem why do you keep doing that
[12:47] <root_> wow thanks for that no0tic
[12:47] <melazyboy2> zazeem: XF86Config-4
[12:47] <no0tic> root_: simply sudo <command> will do it with root privileges if you are in /etc/sudoers
[12:47] <trakal> melazyboy2: Hmm... That didn't seem to work. Type that into a shell right?
[12:48] <zazeem> melazyboy hoe do i select it
[12:48] <root_> I know that
[12:48] <no0tic> root_: either you can temporarily login as root via: $su -l root
[12:48] <encryptio> if you set a root password
[12:48] <zazeem> guardiann
[12:49] <no0tic> root_: it's not a good idea, I told you.
[12:49] <zazeem> how do i select
[12:49] <root_> Nautilus and Text Editor should let ou authenticate live OSX and BBedit
[12:49] <zazeem> ls /etc/X11/XF86Config-4
[12:49] <zazeem> ?
[12:49] <faxons> I'm trying to upgrade to hoary from warty and having some X problems
[12:49] <melazyboy2> XhyldazhK: you can either use the debian package: kernel-package, or get the sources
[12:49] <encryptio> faxons: you're not the only one
[12:50] <no0tic> root_: you are right
[12:50] <LinuxJones> faxons, lots of fun with Hoary + Xorg
[12:50] <jdub> XhyldazhK: search for linux-headers and linux-source
[12:50] <melazyboy2> trakal: yes 'loadkeys dvorak', im not sure it will work for all shells, but it should work for what ever shell you do it in
[12:50] <zazeem> linuxjones, ls /etc/X11/XF86Config-4? how do i edit
[12:50] <no0tic> root_: mac rulez...
[12:50] <faxons> :) what XF86 packages do I need to remove?
[12:50] <root_> I'm bored with mac though
[12:50] <no0tic> root_: but in OSX you don't use admin, I suppose
[12:50] <LinuxJones> zazeem, nano /etc/X11/XF86Config-4
[12:51] <XhyldazhK> jdub, I need to patch my kernel with kdb
[12:51] <melazyboy2> zazeem: try, 'sudo gedit /etc/X11/XF86Config-4
[12:51] <faxons> LinuxJones: is there some docs on this that I missed?
[12:51] <trakal> melazyboy2: All I'm getting is "couldn't get a file descriptor referring to console".
[12:51] <XhyldazhK> I compiled my kernel, but it doesn't locate its modules and fails
[12:51] <root_> Yes I am an admin on my OSX system. Of course.
[12:51] <XhyldazhK> so I think if I compile and istall it the official way it will work
[12:51] <no0tic> root_: you can run gedit with root privileges, if u need to edit a system file
[12:51] <aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa> send me if u can help me pls?
[12:51] <LinuxJones> faxons, what problem are you having ?
[12:51] <no0tic> root_: but you use admin for daily tasks?
[12:52] <zazeem> didnt work :'(
[12:52] <faxons> LinuxJones: X just doesn't start
[12:52] <melazyboy2> trakal: Do it through X =/ loadkeys aparently doesn't work in terminals
[12:52] <root_> You don't know what your on about no0tic, no offense
[12:52] <faxons> LinuxJones: startx brings up a session
[12:52] <no0tic> root_: yes, root_, yes
[12:52] <LinuxJones> faxons, you can try xorgconfig
[12:52] <melazyboy2> trakal: desktop -> prefrences -> keyboard
[12:53] <no0tic> root_: tell me something you know, so I can change my ideas
[12:53] <faxons> LinuxJones: I think it's a package problem
[12:53] <root_> I have an account in 10.3 with admin priviledges. To use them I type a code
[12:53] <LinuxJones> faxons, it will walk you through setting up xorg. If there is an XF86Config-4 file in the X11 directory it seems to want to use that file for some reason.
[12:53] <aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa> i need help?
[12:54] <aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa> i need help pls?
[12:54] <aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa> ??
[12:54] <faxons> LinuxJones: the live CD comes up fine and I "borrowed" the xorg.conf file
[12:54] <dud> try asking a question then aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[12:54] <HrdwrBoB> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa: please change your nick to something readable
[12:54] <aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa> http://www.cheatplanet.com/ps2cheats/onimusha_3_demon_siege.htm
[12:54] <kbrooks> shoot
[12:54] <randabis> wtf
[12:54] <LinuxJones> faxons, did you dis-upgrade ?
[12:54] <melazyboy2> trakal: or you can edit xorg.conf/XF86Config-4 and change XkbLayout to "dvorak"
[12:54] <kbrooks> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, offtopic
[12:54] <aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa> ??
[12:54] <LinuxJones> faxons, err dist-upgrade
[12:54] <aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa> ??
[12:54] <kbrooks> i demand you get out of the room, aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[12:54] <dud> ber off-topic hehe
[12:55] <zazeem> melazy, none of those cfg lines worked :'(
[12:55] <aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa> ??
[12:55] <LinuxJones> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, please change your name it's driving me crazy :(
[12:55] <root_> Try Computer>Desktop>Keyboard
[12:55] <randabis> this is a ubuntu support channel, not a game support channel
[12:55] <no0tic> root_: thank you for the precius words
[12:55] <faxons> yea, I had a dependency fail but running apt-get upgrade seemed to finish ok
[12:55] <randabis> Also, stop spamming
[12:55] <root_> Put on Dvorak and cut USQWE
[12:55] <trakal> melazyboy2: OK I got it. I just accidently hit the expand on dvorak, which just gave me the option of specific dvorak layouts.
[12:55] <no0tic> root_: I didn't know that you set up a password for admin...
[12:55] <aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa> http://db.gamefaqs.com/console/ps2/file/onimusha_3_a.txt
[12:55] <root_> It works fine except for login
[12:55] <kbrooks> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, OFFTOPIC
[12:56] <aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa> ??
[12:56] <kbrooks> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, and i mean offtopic
[12:56] <kbrooks> and i mean it.
[12:56] <aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa> no
[12:56] <kbrooks> yes
[12:56] <aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa> no
[12:56] <trakal> melazboy2: Works now, thanks a lot.
[12:56] <kbrooks> yes
[12:56] <root_> The loginscreen stays qwelty which is annoying
[12:56] <LinuxJones> jdub please kick this guy ?
[12:56] <dud> this channel has nothing to do about either onimusha or cheats OR games
[12:56] <faxons> LinuxJones: by running apt-get update with a faild dist-upgrade did I screw the install?
[12:57] <aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa> i need help?
[12:57] <melazyboy2> what this isn't a gaming channel?
[12:57] <dud> try apt-get -f install faxons
[12:57] <jnkjnbjk> ??
[12:57] <randabis> stop spamming/flooding our channel please
[12:57] <randabis> you need to find somewhere else to ask for the help you requrie
[12:57] <randabis> require even
[12:57] <melazyboy2> jnkjnbjk: your going to want to up-down-left-right-jump-jump-run
[12:57] <LinuxJones> faxons, that's probably what happened. Sometimes if it bombs out you just try again. try apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:57] <root_> Does anyone know why volume is so low in my ibook under ubuntu
[12:58] <jnkjnbjk> if u can help pls?
[12:58] <kbrooks> melazyboy2, dont feed a troll
[12:58] <randabis> we CAN'T help you, find somewhere else for help.
[12:58] <zazeem> anyone know why when i start up a game my ubuntu restarts to thee nvidia logo then to login screen???
[12:58] <faxons> LinuxJones: apt-get update shows no packages to be updated
[12:58] <kbrooks> zazeem, depends.
[12:59] <faxons> LinuxJones: same with dist-upgrade
[12:59] <zazeem> on what
[12:59] <LinuxJones> faxons, you did apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[12:59] <kbrooks> it might be your hardware.....
[12:59] <zazeem> kbrooks, how do i fix?
[12:59] <kbrooks> etc etc
[12:59] <faxons> LinuxJones: yea
[12:59] <kbrooks> zazeem, hello?
[12:59] <zazeem> no i had it working yesterday
[12:59] <LinuxJones> faxons, well you can try xorgconfig
[12:59] <zazeem> but reinstalled ubuntu
[12:59] <kbrooks> that may be why.
[12:59] <zazeem> and forgot to write down
[01:00] <zazeem> there was a faq thing on a yellow webpage that had video setup it worked perfectly but now i cant find tyhat page
[01:00] <randabis> documentation is very important, you've learned a valuable lesson
[01:00] <dud> zazeem, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDrivers
[01:00] <randabis> your answer is probably in the ubuntu wiki
[01:00] <faxons> LinuxJones: k, I'll give it a shot
[01:03] <zazeem> kbrooks, how do i change my resolution in login?
[01:04] <faxons> LinuxJones: is there a way to re-run the base install
[01:04] <zazeem> how do i change my resolution in login?
[01:04] <faxons> LinuxJones: something like dpkg-reconfigrue base-config
[01:05] <LinuxJones> faxons, I dunno if that will work, one way to find out :D
[01:05] <faxons> LinuxJones: is base-config the right option?
[01:05] <zazeem> linuxjones,how do i change my resolution in login?
[01:05] <LinuxJones> zazeem, did you edit your xf86config file by hand ?
[01:05] <troll_god> faxons dpkg -l | grep base-config
[01:05] <zazeem> how
[01:05] <zazeem> jones*
[01:06] <randabis> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 or xserver-xorg depending on version of X
[01:06] <troll_god> faxons: so yes.
[01:06] <LinuxJones> zazeem, dpkg-reconefiure xserver-xfree86
[01:06] <zazeem> zazeem@workgroup:~ $ dpkg-reconefiure xserver-xfree86
[01:06] <zazeem> bash: dpkg-reconefiure: command not found
[01:06] <brc_> woohoo! new powerbooks =) http://www.apple.com/powerbook/
[01:07] <root_> G5 is just round the corner
[01:07] <FAST> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
[01:07] <LinuxJones> zazeem, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
[01:07] <randabis> zazeem you need to type it correctly...
[01:07] <LinuxJones> zazeem, sorry my typing skills are weak
[01:08] <zazeem> lol
[01:08] <LinuxJones> :)
[01:09] <FAST> does X support 1152x864 resolutions?  i tried putting it in the XF86Config-4 file, but nothin showed up in Computer->System Configuration->Screen Resolution;  is that the wrong way to do it?
[01:10] <smo> FAST: That's the res I'm using.  Have you restarted X since the change?
[01:11] <FAST> smo: yep, restarted the computer; no luck :\
[01:12] <troll_god> FAST: you put it under modeline or under your device driver?
[01:12] <FAST> troll_god: what's modeline?
[01:13] <troll_god> the other place where you might see resolutions in your config
[01:13] <troll_god> FAST: you can always reconfigure xserver as they suggested to zazeem
[01:13] <FAST> under the screen section, i inserted "1152x864" in the 24 bit depth mode section
[01:13] <rempresent> i am thinking about changing my kernel to better suit my hardware, can anyone help me with this?
[01:13] <FAST> troll_god: i tried that too, but it wasn't listed ever
[01:13] <rempresent> i have a AMD XP 3000+
[01:14] <zazeem> hmm
[01:14] <troll_god> rempresent: you just apt get the AMD kernel
[01:14] <AndyRR> use synaptic if you are unsure
[01:14] <troll_god> rempresent: if you want to build your own apt-get kernel-package, or the sources
[01:14] <rempresent> where can i find a listing that suits me
[01:14] <rempresent> like of different packages..
[01:14] <rempresent> i want to remedy the memory issue
[01:14] <zazeem> linuxjones, that still didnt let me edit the cfg for resolutions in login and nvidia logo, yesterday the cmd i used i deleted the high ones and it worked
[01:15] <rempresent> where it thinks i only have so much ram...
[01:15] <AndyRR> rempresent, use synaptic as it also sorts grub out for you
[01:15] <rempresent> grub?
[01:15] <AndyRR> may also need to append grub.lst
[01:16] <troll_god> rempresent: You can find a list of the different packages by going 'apt-get update && apt-cache search . | less'
[01:16] <AndyRR> reformed, grub is bootloader
[01:16] <troll_god> troll_god: by opening synaptic
[01:16] <troll_god> trakal: or by using aptitude
[01:16] <zazeem> that still didnt let me edit the cfg for resolutions in login and nvidia logo, yesterday the cmd i used i deleted the high ones and it worked anyone know how to edit this???????
[01:16] <rempresent> ok, great.... how can i check to see how much ram i am utilizing
[01:17] <shock> er
[01:17] <shock> top
[01:17] <shock> in console
[01:17] <shock> or run the gnome-system-monitor
[01:17] <troll_god> rempresent: cat /proc/meminfo
[01:17] <jdub> rempresent: type 'free'
[01:17] <rempresent> Mem:        516608     509336       7272          0      15108     243836
[01:17] <rempresent> is that ok
[01:18] <jdub> rempresent: but keep in mind that it's the second number under 'free' that matters
[01:18] <jdub> no
[01:18] <rempresent> no what
[01:18] <jdub> the line that has -/+ buffers/cache is important
[01:18] <rempresent> second number
[01:18] <rempresent> -/+ buffers/cache:     250392     266216
[01:18] <rempresent> there... what do you think
[01:18] <jdub> so the first line says you have 7MB memory free, which is not the entire truth
[01:18] <troll_god> rempresent: If you really want to build a safe, and secure system with all of the advantages linux has to offer do, 'apt-get --force-yes install *'
[01:19] <jdub> the second line indicates that a good 250MB or so is being used for in-memory file caching
[01:19] <rempresent> troll:  i know all that, but i am considering changing the kernel
[01:19] <rempresent> hat decent...
[01:19] <jdub> linux efficiently uses your RAM to speed up disk access
[01:19] <rempresent> that decent
[01:19] <jdub> but gives it back if programs want it
[01:19] <rempresent> so, i am fine, no need to update the kernel
[01:20] <jdub> the kernel wouldn't help
[01:20] <rempresent> ok, that is what i wanted to check
[01:20] <jdub> even if you were using a lot of real memory
[01:20] <zazeem> how do i save logs from console after it crashes and relogs in???
[01:21] <rempresent> is this decent news, or should i think about changing the kernel...
[01:21] <jdub> rempresent: changing the kernel would not help whether it was good or bad news
[01:22] <rempresent> ok
[01:22] <rempresent> that is pretty much all i wanted to check
[01:22] <troll_god> rempresent: but changing the kernel can yeild hours of fun
[01:23] <FAST> we're from the moon
[01:23] <spudse> im searching for a light program to view powerpoint files (ppt)
[01:23] <troll_god> rempresent: try it, you will throughly enjoy your linux experience, use the image on kernel.org for added pleasure
[01:23] <balc> im having problems getting safepeer to run without error in azureus
[01:23] <balc> ubuntu seems to give it trouble
[01:25] <Stuttergart> Anyone know what group a user needs to be in to access a scanner with xsane in Hoary?
[01:25] <zazeem> any one alive?
[01:25] <zazeem> :(
[01:26] <troll_god> Stuttergart: im guessing the group root will suffice
[01:26] <Stuttergart> heh
[01:26] <troll_god> Stuttergart: =D
[01:26] <Stuttergart> how about Administrator?
[01:26] <rempresent> i like the dashboard featured in the new OSX tiger, is there a chance of seeing one of these for linux
[01:26] <Stuttergart> I don't have a 'root' group. Just 'SYSTEM' and 'Domain Administrators'
[01:27] <rempresent> or is there something out there for it already
[01:27] <troll_god> Stuttergart: your on windosws?
[01:27] <Stuttergart> I think so.
[01:27] <zazeem> anyone here
[01:27] <zazeem> that can help
[01:27] <troll_god> zazeem: god wtf is the problem
[01:28] <troll_god> zazeem: you have gone and spammed your own question out of view, v. nicley done mate!
[01:28] <zazeem> how do i get ubuntu to save an error log .a into home directory so i can see why enemy territory is crashing my system and rebooting to login
[01:28] <zazeem> spammed?
[01:28] <troll_god> zazeem: You can't
[01:28] <Agrajag> troll_god: you can't?
[01:28] <zazeem> i did yesterday a guy showed me how
[01:29] <Agrajag> doesn't ET output to the console?
[01:29] <zazeem> but i reinstalled
[01:29] <zazeem> ?
[01:29] <Agrajag> just redirect stdout/stderr to a file
[01:29] <Br34ch> at start-up, it does say "no soundcard found," . . . I'm on a laptop, where can I at least begin to attempt resolving this problem?
[01:29] <shock> zazeem - i guess its just crashing X ?
[01:29] <shock> not the system
[01:29] <Agrajag> wolfet > stdout 2> stderr
[01:29] <troll_god> zazeem: computers can't prodict the future, if your whole computer is 'crashing' its a kernel level crash, it could be a bad func call, point being if there isn't a warning you won't know what happened until it has already happened
[01:29] <zazeem> i guess but yesterday we got it working
[01:29] <zazeem> not whole comp
[01:29] <Agrajag> then read the stdout and stderr files
[01:30] <zazeem> only when i start et it resets resolutuion then switches to login again
[01:30] <Agrajag> if that gives you anything useful, check that. Otherwise read your X logs
[01:30] <troll_god> zazeem: You can redirect error output to a file 'file_to_be_run 2> errorlog'
[01:30] <zazeem> how
[01:30] <zazeem> ?
[01:31] <Agrajag> uh, he just told you how
[01:31] <zazeem> put that in csole?
[01:31] <bisclaveret> heh. me again :p
[01:31] <Agrajag> zazeem: the > operator redirects the output of a program to a file
[01:31] <Br34ch> at start-up, it does say "no soundcard found," . . . I'm on a laptop, where can I at least begin to attempt resolving this problem? <
[01:31] <troll_god> i just told you, open up a console, find the file you need to run, type the name ./file_to_be_run, and append '2> error.log' to it, then when it  crashes open up error.log and it will send out what is has captured
[01:31] <Agrajag> 2> reidrects stderr to a file
[01:31] <zazeem> what the hell lol
[01:32] <Agrajag> wolfet > stdout 2> stderr
[01:32] <Agrajag> wolfet > stdout 2> stderr
[01:32] <zazeem> file_to_be_run 2> errorlog in csole?
[01:32] <zazeem> k
[01:32] <pvh> Hi -- I've had a few hard-lock crashes lately, and right now Nautilus is uninterruptably hung.
[01:32] <bisclaveret> i'm trying to install the nvidia drivers for linux but A. it can't find any precompiled kernel interface, it says. and B. it can't find my kernel source files..
[01:32] <pvh> What the heck is happening to me?
[01:32] <Agrajag> I told you that like 3 minutes ago
[01:32] <zazeem> o
[01:32] <zazeem> where does it save to?
[01:32] <Agrajag> WVefvclmn
[01:32] <bisclaveret> ERROR: Unable to find the kernel source tree for the currently running kernel.
[01:32] <bisclaveret>        Please make sure you have installed the kernel source files for your
[01:32] <bisclaveret>        kernel
[01:32] <Agrajag> I'm about to give up here guys
[01:32] <Gunlance> Hello All (it's Gunblade from yesterday)
[01:32] <Agrajag> zazeem: that will save to two files
[01:32] <troll_god> lol
[01:32] <Agrajag> stdout, and stderr
[01:33] <zazeem> ya but where at
[01:33] <zazeem> o i c
[01:33] <zazeem> brb
[01:33] <pvh> Hey! I can crash my process by trying to get a directory listing... What the heck?
[01:33] <Agrajag> in the current working directory.
[01:33] <bisclaveret> does anyone know where these are?
[01:33] <troll_god> zazeem: or you could redirect both to the same file for added complexity!!!! 'file > output.log 2>&1'
[01:34] <Xenguy> pvh: are you running hoary?  else, what changes have you made most recently? ;-)
[01:34] <Gunlance> I just have a quick question, how do I install Ubuntu off of the cd..cause it is running off of the CD
[01:34] <pvh> Xenguy: Yes, I'm running Hoary.
[01:34] <Agrajag> Gunlance: you need the installer disc
[01:34] <Agrajag> not the livecd
[01:34] <Gunlance> Damn <_<
[01:34] <Br34ch> at start-up, it does say "no soundcard found," . . . I'm on a laptop, where can I at least begin to attempt resolving this problem? <<
[01:34] <Gunlance> Thats the 4.10 one off the website right?
[01:35] <Br34ch> :'x
[01:35] <pvh> Xenguy: I can't kill the nautilus process that's trying to read the directory.
[01:35] <pvh> Xenguy: It won't respond to kill -9 on its PID.
[01:35] <zazeem> that didnt save a log anywhere
[01:35] <no0tic> Ignigot was flooding me with pings...
[01:35] <Xenguy> pvh: I hate to ask this question, but, have you tried rebooting your box to regain some sanity?
[01:35] <Agrajag> zazeem: do you have files named stdout and stderr?
[01:36] <pvh> Xenguy: What is this, Windows?
[01:36] <Xenguy> pvh: (this is of course something that should *not* be necessary for a linux box, but ...)
[01:36] <zazeem> stder yea dont see the other
[01:36] <Gunlance> Thats the 4.10 one off the website right?
[01:36] <zazeem> zazeem/.etwolf/etmain/servercache.dat'
[01:36] <zazeem> Reason: There is no plugin to handle this movie..
[01:36] <zazeem> totem-video-thumbnailer couln't open file 'file:///usr/local/games/enemy-territory/etmain/hunkusage.dat'
[01:36] <zazeem> Reason: There is no plugin to handle this movie..
[01:36] <Agrajag> then read stderr
[01:36] <t> i need help?
[01:36] <pvh> Xenguy: It shouldn't even be possible to create unkillable jobs.
[01:37] <Xenguy> pvh: yes :p
[01:37] <troll_god> you probably typed the wrong pid
[01:37] <t> i need help pls?
[01:37] <troll_god> try 'killall -s 9 nautilus'
[01:37] <Agrajag> pvh: can't kill a zombie
[01:37] <Xenguy> t: just ask
[01:37] <pvh> Agrajag: braaaaaains
[01:37] <troll_god> Agrajag: if nautilus was a zombie it would be a flaw in X -- there aren't any of those =/
[01:37] <snoopdogg> http://db.gamefaqs.com/console/ps2/file/onimusha_3_a.txt
[01:37] <pvh> Agrajag: It shows as uninterruptable in the sysmon. It still has a parent.
[01:37] <zazeem> agrajag, this is the stder bash: wolfet: command not found
[01:37] <Agrajag> oh
[01:37] <zazeem> there isnt another
[01:38] <Agrajag> ok
[01:38] <Agamotto> Damn.... Local guy serving in Iraq has been killed.  He was due to come home in three days
[01:38] <pvh> troll_god: That was the first thing I tried.
[01:38] <Agrajag> zazeem: I probably just forgot the name of the et executable
[01:38] <bisclaveret> has anyone installed the nvidia drivers succesfully on thier computer?
[01:38] <Agrajag> zazeem: what do you run to play et?
[01:38] <zazeem> its et
[01:38] <pvh> Agamotto: I'm sorry to hear that.
[01:38] <Agrajag> just et?
[01:38] <zazeem> ya
[01:38] <Agrajag> then use that
[01:38] <snoopdogg> pls senud it 2 me if u can hepl me pls?
[01:38] <Xenguy> Agamotto: blame Bush
[01:38] <Agamotto> I got the nvidia drivers running under Ubuntu
[01:38] <zazeem> ?
[01:38] <zazeem> what do i type
[01:38] <Agrajag> do I have to hold your fscking hand?
[01:38] <zazeem> ?
[01:38] <pvh> Xenguy: Dude...
[01:38] <Gunlance> The 4.10 off teh ubuntu website is the install version right not live?
[01:38] <Agamotto> Nah, I prefer to blame the person that pulled the trigger on him
[01:38] <Agrajag> et > stdout 2> stderr
[01:39] <Agrajag> the same goddamn thing
[01:39] <Agrajag> just replace wolfet, with et
[01:39] <zazeem> o
[01:39] <snoopdogg> send
[01:39] <Agamotto> Yes, must be the install disc to go on a hd, live won't install
[01:39] <snoopdogg> help
[01:39] <bisclaveret> Agamotto, care to tell me how?
[01:39] <Br34ch> !ping
[01:40] <troll_god> Agrajag: hahahahaha i like your style! so gracefull
[01:40] <Gunlance> K thx
[01:40] <pvh> troll_god: So I have a process that won't accept a KILL signal. Now what do I do?
[01:40] <Agrajag> troll_god: I'm sorry, I just can't deal with people that are that dense
[01:40] <zazeem> k got error
[01:40] <Agrajag> zazeem: how did it go?
[01:40] <zazeem> good
[01:41] <zazeem> can i pm u error?
[01:41] <Agrajag> yes
[01:41] <kbrooks> how the hell do i get opengl
[01:41] <bisclaveret> Agamotto, it tells me first there's no precompiled kernel interfaces when it searches the nvidia ftp site, then it tells me
[01:41] <troll_god> pvh: reinstall a new kernel? i honestly don't know and find it hard to swallow, i haven't seen that in a v. long time
[01:41] <bisclaveret> ERROR: Unable to find the kernel source tree for the currently running kernel.
[01:41] <bisclaveret>        Please make sure you have installed the kernel source files for your
[01:41] <bisclaveret>        kernel; on Red Hat Linux systems, for example, be sure you have the
[01:41] <bisclaveret>        'kernel-source' rpm installed.  If you know the correct kernel source
[01:41] <bisclaveret>        files are installed, you may specify the kernel source path with the
[01:41] <bisclaveret>        '--kernel-source-path' commandline option.
[01:41] <kbrooks> pvh, send it TERM and then KILL
[01:41] <bisclaveret> where are these?
[01:42] <pvh> kbrooks: Ah, I haven't heard of that before. I'll try.
[01:42] <troll_god> pvh: You might just simply have a corrupt PID table however i know nothing about that except what can bork it, forkbombs of sort and zombie bombs etc
[01:42] <kbrooks> pvh: kill pid, then kill -9 pid, then kill -15 pid
[01:42] <Agamotto> Go to the following: http://www.ubuntuguide.org
[01:42] <troll_god> pvh: make sure your running as root too when you issue killall -s 9
[01:42] <pvh> kbrooks: No dice.
[01:42] <pvh> troll_god: Good thinking.
[01:43] <pvh> troll_god: Ah, that did it.
[01:43] <pvh> kbrooks: Signal 15 coming from root.
[01:44] <bisclaveret> hrm. do i then have to do a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86?
[01:45] <aToaster> I'm thinking about upgrading to Hoary to use the new ATI drivers, is there anything I should know about Hoary?
[01:45] <pvh> Well, now I just have a totally borked home directory.
[01:45] <pvh> Better go find out why. Thanks for your help with my undead process.
[01:46] <snoopdogg> pls send 2 help me pls?
[01:46] <troll_god> aToaster: the new ATI are for XFree86 too
[01:46] <tux> aToaster, no probs for me
[01:46] <tux> xorg going as well
[01:46] <troll_god> aToaster: And i upgraded to hoary, and recompiled my own kernel, and i haven't had ATI drivers for 2weeks because of it.
[01:46] <Stuttergart> I have a device string for the package maintainer of libsane to add to the stuff for hotplug. Who do I contact? The Debian maintainer or someone @ Ubuntu?
[01:47] <daniels> debian, preferably
[01:47] <troll_god> aToaster: i regret it, my advice is if ati drivers work don't touch system, while a simple apt might no break it i have been disapointed with the fglrx package, it fails silently -- that always pisses me off
[01:47] <Stuttergart> daniels: does that mean that it won't be added to Ubuntu until the next release?
[01:47] <aToaster> troll_god: I can't seem to get 3d accelartion working and I hear hoary has the drivers in the repository, thought it might install better that way
[01:48] <lflack> anyone know of a decent external USB CR-RW drive that will work on a laptop running Ubuntu?
[01:48] <troll_god> aToaster: I can't speak for those who don't compile their own kernel, how ever next time i can get a custom kernel to compile and the ATI drivers to run i won't ever upgrade system again
[01:48] <LinuxJones> The NVidia Binary Drivers seem to be whining about some Failure Reading EDID Parameters and will not load. I just installed Hoary has anybody seen this ?
[01:48] <tux> lflack, check the hardware compatibility list on the wiki
[01:48] <troll_god> aToaster: Im using 2.6.11rc2-mm2, and there IS NO WAY to get ATI drivers to run
[01:49] <lflack> tux, I poked around there and found compatible systems, and other components, but couldn't find a section on drives.
[01:49] <troll_god> aToaster: I have already filed a bug report about it on the ATI monitered rage3d.com boards
[01:50] <aToaster> troll_god: lol, ok, dang, man thats the only thing thats keeping me from switching over to linux completely, (err that and my need for macromedia flash)
[01:50] <troll_god> aToaster: In addition I will add that i was unable to get ATI drivers to work with 2.6.10 as well, but there is now a patch for 2.6.10 and ATI if you want to use the 2.6.10 kernel (it has broken AGPGART keep in mind)
[01:50] <aToaster> troll_god: what problems are you having with it?
[01:50] <bisclaveret> heh. all i want the nvidia drivers for is so i don't have to constantly switch in/out my vidcard and reenable onboard every time i want to use linux and or windows :p
[01:51] <daniels> Stuttergart: probably, yes
[01:51] <daniels> LinuxJones: sounds like a bug in the nvidia drivers -- try #nvidia
[01:51] <troll_god> aToaster: The problem originated with 2.6.8 on hoary. When xorg first was dropped into hoary it took an additional 2months(?) for drivers to be released from ATI
[01:51] <LinuxJones> daniels, ok thanks
[01:51] <bisclaveret> oh dear god at the downloading i'l have to do after enabling all those repositories
[01:51] <LinuxJones> join #nvidia
[01:52] <LinuxJones> blah
[01:52] <daniels> troll_god: why are you trying to compile your own kernel?
[01:52] <troll_god> aToaster: When the were released iw as running 2.6.10 custom, wo/ ATI Patch, because while ATI released them for 2.6.10 they never tested them and it didn't work, now the patch is available on rage3d, then i patched them and i found out 2.6.10 had bad AGPGART support, see 2.6.11rc2 buildnotes, so i decided to upgrade thinking it would be easier, 2.6.11rc2mm2 currently does not have the patch though for ati
[01:53] <troll_god> daniels: I was doing work with ALSA and mplayer =/, plus i have the .config and when i get things working ill use random kernel hacks i find for fun
[01:53] <daniels> alsa and mplayer do not require 2.6.11rc2mm1
[01:53] <troll_god> daniels: the point isn't why im running a custom kernel, i am, the point is it doesn't work with mine.
[01:54] <aToaster> troll_god: what is AGPGART anyways? I tried the whole Option "UseInternalAGPGART" "no" thing to try to get it to work (unfortunatly fglrxinfo still says I'm using mesa)
[01:54] <troll_god> daniels: no but mplayer requires OSS support, either through ALSA or the depreciated sound system, and i wanted to play around with that
[01:54] <daniels> right, but running a custom kernel and getting surprised when stuff breaks (because of kernel changes) isseems a little odd to me
[01:54] <daniels> troll_god: btw, mplayer doesn't require oss -- i use it without oss support
[01:55] <troll_god> daniels: take out oss from ALSA, and disable it in the kernel, it will error out with fail to open sound device, the bug report has been filed and its already in CVS as being fixed
[01:55] <troll_god> pre5 (current version) does not have the fix though.
[01:55] <gobeavs> is there any reason to upgrade to the hoary right now?
[01:55] <gobeavs> *upgrade to hoary
[01:56] <troll_god> aToaster: If your getting that error, and you have 'fglrx' as your drive in XF86Config-4, then the module is failing to load, check your XFree86.0.log, in /etc/var, or dmesg | grep fglrx
[01:56] <mjg59> gobeavs: Unless you're keen on testing things, no
[01:56] <daniels> troll_god: try '-ao alsa' or '-ao alsa9'
[01:56] <troll_god> daniels: it still won't work, it will just use oss support through alsa
[01:58] <troll_god> daniels: see linuxquestions.org/questions/history/271161 for an error simular to what i got
[01:59] <aToaster> [fglrx]  Maximum main memory to use for locked dma buffers: 929 MBytes.
[01:59] <aToaster> [fglrx]  module loaded - fglrx 3.12.0 [Jul 16 2004]  on minor 0
[01:59] <aToaster> [fglrx:firegl_unlock]  *ERROR* Process 4126 using kernel context 0
[01:59] <aToaster> troll_god: is the error message I get from dmeseg
[02:00] <daniels> troll_god: that report says that everything still works
[02:01] <troll_god> daniels: It didn't for me. stderr shot out messages like that, mplayer failed on audio output silently, gmplayer, failed by outputting a dialog box 1000thousand times a second with a message like failed to open device, also without audio
[02:01] <mjg59> aToaster: That's not strictly an error
[02:01] <mjg59> (Well, it's an error, but it's not one that should matter too much)
[02:01] <troll_god> daniels: Anyway supposed to be fixed, in CVS i talked to Mplayer devs about it, i just didn't care to upgrade it and try it, gxine and VLC work fine
[02:02] <troll_god> aToaster: I believe the DMA error is the AGPGART, are you using 2.6.10?
[02:02] <aToaster> mjg59: troll_god: odd then, because everything seems to be in order, but fglrx still says I'm using mesa
[02:02] <aToaster> troll_god: I believe so, how do I check?
[02:02] <tux> whats the diff. between totem and totem-gstreamer ?
[02:02] <troll_god> aToaster: uname -v
[02:02] <troll_god> totem-gstreamer is a meta package that uses gstreamer plugin for sound
[02:02] <troll_god> afaik
[02:02] <aToaster> troll_god: uname -a you mean? I'm using 2.6.8.1-4-686
[02:03] <mjg59> troll_god: Uses gstreamer for everything
[02:03] <tux> ah ok thx
[02:03] <mjg59> totem-gstreamer is totem built against gstreamer as the media backend
[02:04] <tux> im having problems viewing an .avi file
[02:04] <troll_god> aToaster: uanem -r works too =D, im not sure what your problem is -- there are an infinate ammount of ways fglrx can fail, if you can't modprobe them, and all of your stuff is compiled by the ubuntu team, then they should be able to assist you
[02:04] <tux> should i revert back to totem as opposed to totem-gstreamer ?
[02:04] <mjg59> tux: With warty, totem-xine is likely to work better than totem-gstreamer
[02:04] <tux> im using hoary
[02:05] <troll_god> aToaster: you can always play around with fglrxconfig, and glxinfo, too, rage3d has most dedicated support group for ATI products from what i can get at, might want to ask one of those guys =/
[02:06] <Twiggy> Hey ~ I'm trying to upgrade to hoary, but I keep getting an error unpacking libgtksourceview-common
[02:06] <Twiggy> Anybody know if there's a fixed package somewhere?
[02:06] <bisclaveret> damn. after doing what was in the add extra repositories thing in the guide.... thats just way too much to update :p
[02:07] <aToaster> troll_god: fglrxconfig doesn't list my video card (x800) and I'm not too sure what to pick, anyways, what w ould I do with modprobe?
[02:07] <troll_god> aToaster: modprobe fglrx
[02:08] <troll_god> aToaster: your video card might not be supported by fglrx then, you might have DRI support if its old enough pre9250
[02:08] <aToaster> troll_god: modprobe fglrx doesn't return anything
[02:09] <jeavis> hi somebony can help me
[02:09] <troll_god> aToaster: do lsmod | grep fglrx
[02:09] <jeavis> trey3: Hi trey3
[02:09] <aToaster> troll_god: fglrx                 214820  0
[02:09] <aToaster>  look normal?
[02:10] <troll_god> aToaster: yes
[02:10] <aToaster> Are there any linux firefox plugins that support .mov or .wmv?
[02:10] <troll_god> aToaster: So you have the first half of the problem done, you have fglrx working just get x to use it now, the other half of the problem
[02:11] <jeavis> hi
[02:11] <troll_god> aToaster: vlc, or xine will support .wmv wo/ wmv9 audio, nothing supports .mov to my knowledge yet =/
[02:11] <jeavis> I need help
[02:11] <jeavis> I cant open this page
[02:11] <jeavis> http://cursos.itesm.mx
[02:11] <jeavis> someboy can say me why
[02:12] <troll_god> aToaster: by that i mean you can watch .wmv9 video as long as they have mpeg audio or something on those lines windows media audio codec is still worthless =/
[02:12] <LinuxJones> jeavis, it opens fine for me
[02:12] <Yannick_> troll_god, just install w32codec
[02:12] <jeavis> LinuxJones: The page display username and password
[02:12] <troll_god> Yannick_: i have w32codec, it doesn't support all forms of audio =/ check the learner.org language videos for examples of files that i have since not been able to get playback for in linux
[02:13] <Twiggy> Has anybody upgraded to hoary lately that knows about a problem with unpacking libgtksourceview-common?
[02:13] <Yannick_> oups, sorry
[02:13] <Yannick_> I though It was doing it
[02:13] <Amaranth> troll_god: they might be wmv3
[02:13] <LinuxJones> jeavis, yeah on the right hand side
[02:13] <troll_god> Amaranth: I think thats what im going for =/ yar get video not audio
[02:13] <aToaster> troll_god: there a log for x so I check if it tries to load the drivers?
[02:13] <Amaranth> oh, if you get video it isn't wmv3
[02:14] <chutwig> if i move grub's root partition by modifying /boot/grub/menu.lst, do i need to re-run it?
[02:14] <troll_god> Amaranth: I only get video using vlc
[02:14] <Amaranth> i don't know why someone would use wmv3 over avc
[02:14] <aToaster> troll_god: ah nm, found it
[02:15] <jeavis> LinuxJones: I use Morilla Firefox 0.93 what web browser do you use?
[02:15] <troll_god> aToaster: yes, 'grep fglrx /var/log/X*'
[02:15] <LinuxJones> mozilla 1.0
[02:15] <aToaster> troll_god: (WW) fglrx(0): Kernel Module version does *not* match driver.
[02:15] <aToaster> (EE) fglrx(0): incompatible kernel module detected - HW accelerated OpenGL will not work
[02:15] <aToaster> troll_god: guess that answer my question, well, thanks for all your help
[02:16] <jeavis> LinuxJones: I tray to with mozilla 1.0 and dint display me the page
[02:16] <jeavis> LinusJones: What do you think thats is the problem
[02:16] <aToaster> troll_god: Ah but, looking at it again, it seems to be loading the old module... (II) fglrx(0): Kernel Module Version Information:
[02:16] <aToaster> (II) fglrx(0):     Name: fglrx
[02:16] <aToaster> (II) fglrx(0):     Version: 3.12.0
[02:16] <aToaster> (II) fglrx(0):     Date: Jul 16 2004
[02:16] <troll_god> aToaster: dice, now send that in a bug report to the ubuntu devs, tell them you got all of your stuff with apt, and it failed to load, and your using warty, xfree86, kernel version ____ and drivers, include package numbers if you can
[02:18] <LinuxJones> jeavis, i have no idea :(
[02:18] <aToaster> troll_god: yea I think, for some reason it's loading the old driver
[02:18] <troll_god> aToaster: auctually you can just 'dpkg -l > sendme && uname -a >> sendme' and then upload sendme to bugzilla or a newsgroup =/
[02:18] <daniels> ehm
[02:18] <jeavis> LinuxJones: psssssssssssssss :(
[02:18] <daniels> are you attempting to install the new ati drivers on warty yourself?
[02:18] <daniels> if so, that's unsupported, for obvious reasons
[02:19] <jeavis> daniels: Do you said that for me
[02:19] <troll_god> daniels: I thought he said he got them w/ apt
[02:20] <aToaster> troll_god: daniels: ah no, I was trying to install the .rpm (which I turned into a .deb)
[02:20] <aToaster> daniels: what would the obvious reasons be?
[02:21] <aToaster> daniels: and I'm using the 2.6.8.1-4-686 kernel if that counts for anything?
[02:21] <troll_god> aToaster: that the ubuntu kernel has patches on it that the ATI team didn't anticipate
[02:21] <daniels> aToaster: right.  don't do that.
[02:21] <Amaranth> does the ubuntu kernel have inotify?
[02:22] <troll_god> aToaster: i believe ubuntu uses the mm kernel patch, the ATI drivers are released for venallia
[02:22] <Amaranth> ooh, mm has inotify
[02:22] <Amaranth> daniels could tell you for sure
[02:22] <troll_god> What is inotify?
[02:23] <HrdwrBoB> troll_god: kernel notifier for dbus
[02:23] <Amaranth> beagle uses it
[02:23] <daniels> aToaster: a) those packages aren't for ubuntu.  they're for red hat and suse.  hence nce the .rpm thing.  secondly, you already have a version of fglrx installed via linux-restricted-modules, and you're trying to install another one over the top o fit, and it's not working.
[02:23] <daniels> at	we only support the packages in our repositories.  that's why we package fglrx.
[02:23] <HrdwrBoB> iitc
[02:24] <daniels> inotify lets you hook in to notifications of changed files/directories, basically
[02:24] <aToaster> daniels: alright, *shrugs* didn't know, thought I'd give it a try anyways
[02:25] <troll_god> aToaster: Thats a good point daniels brings up, the fglrx package should be in the restricted modules package, or just apt-get install xfree86-fglr-driver, and you should get the newest one anyway? daniels did they upload the new ATI drivers to woody or would he have to upgrade to hoary to get that?
[02:25] <Dddave> hi, can anyone help me with a printer sharing problem (linux <--> windows)
[02:26] <Dddave> i'm trying to get my ubuntu box to connect to a printer on a windows machine
[02:26] <Dddave> but it doesn't want to print
[02:26] <Dddave> i have samba set up okay (i think -> file sharing works fine)
[02:26] <troll_god> Dddave: ever use the cusps webadmin?
[02:26] <Dddave> no, what is that?
[02:27] <tux> wheres a good place for getting ubuntu themes ?
[02:28] <LinuxJones> tux, Ubuntu themes or Gnome themes ?
[02:28] <troll_god> Dddave: err your using samba, i thought this was usb
[02:28] <MightyMooquack> I just installed Ubuntu and need a bit of guidance.
[02:28] <Kokey> tux, I found some in http://gnome-look.org
[02:29] <tux> where gnome themes , based on ubuntu :P
[02:29] <steve> can anyone tell me how to access windows from within linux
[02:29] <tux> Kokey, thx
[02:29] <julio> MightMooquack.... a good place to start is www.ubuntuguide.org
[02:29] <steve> i tried mount and it wasn't happening
[02:29] <daniels> troll_god: the new ones are only in hoary; warty is frozen
[02:29] <troll_god> Dddave: try administration->printing in gnome, add printer, ive never added a samba printer wo/ GUI =[
[02:29] <julio> steve...you probably also need ntfs support. i think it can be found in synaptics/apt-get
[02:29] <Dddave> yes, trying to print from ubuntu box to a printer on a windows box
[02:29] <LinuxJones> steve see julio's link ^^
[02:29] <steve> cool
[02:30] <steve> so apt-get instll synaptics
[02:30] <Dddave> i tried adding printer thru gui
[02:30] <steve> install
[02:30] <Dddave> seems fine at first.. just doent print!
[02:30] <julio> no......go to synaptics, and search 'ntfs'
[02:30] <steve> oh
[02:30] <steve> cool
[02:31] <julio> libntfs5
[02:31] <julio> i believe that's what you need.
[02:31] <EvolutionR> Anyone here use a firestarter firewaill?
[02:31] <julio> i may be wrong.
[02:31] <troll_god> daniels: If he would have switched to hoary repos and got the fglrx-driver, would it have installed on his xfree86 with warty kernel? out of curiosity
[02:31] <EvolutionR> Anyone here use a firestarter firewall?
[02:31] <julio> I do.
[02:31] <julio> evolution.
[02:32] <MightyMooquack> If I have a wireless network card in my box, and I didn't configure it on install, how do I get Ubuntu to see it?
[02:32] <troll_god> MightyMooquack: sudo dpkg-reconfigure net-base ? maybe
[02:32] <EvolutionR> julio: everytime I reboot my linux box...an error message came out "You did not have enough privileges to start firestater" do u have this problem b4?
[02:33] <LinuxJones> MightyMooquack, >> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards/view?searchterm=wireless%20network
[02:33] <steve> julio, now that it is installed, what next
[02:33] <julio> steve. go to www.ubuntuguide.org
[02:33] <LinuxJones> night all
[02:33] <julio> it'll guide you better than i could.
[02:33] <marcin_ant> EvolutionR: you need to input your password to run firestarter
[02:33] <steve> cool
[02:34] <daniels> troll_god: nope, because it's only built for 2.6.10
[02:34] <marcin_ant> EvolutionR: just remove firestarter from your session
[02:34] <julio> EvolutionR...do what marcin said.
[02:34] <marcin_ant> EvolutionR: I mean from gnome-session
[02:34] <snoopdogg> i need help
[02:34] <julio> i must be off.
[02:34] <EvolutionR> marcin_ant just remove the firestarter command in session?
[02:34] <K-Rich> don't we all :P
[02:34] <julio> adios my peoples.
[02:34] <MightyMooquack> Hmm. That site doesn't mention the card I have. (D-Link DWL-G510)
[02:35] <EvolutionR> sudo firestarter --start-hidden
[02:35] <EvolutionR> remove that?
[02:35] <troll_god> MightyMooquack: you might need ndiswrapper
[02:35] <marcin_ant> EvolutionR: Desktop -> preferences -> sessions
[02:35] <raydogg``> has anyone went fullscreen with vmware and an ATI video card in ubuntu ?
[02:36] <marcin_ant> EvolutionR: remove firestarter from current session
[02:36] <marcin_ant> EvolutionR: or startup list
[02:36] <EvolutionR> okie I've input the sudo firestarter --start-hidden  in the startup gnome session preferences...okie I will remove it. Will it load the firestarter everytime I boot on my linux box?
[02:36] <marcin_ant> EvolutionR: firestater is always up - it works as service
[02:37] <EvolutionR> okie
[02:37] <EvolutionR> thanks
[02:37] <EvolutionR> remove done!
[02:37] <marcin_ant> EvolutionR: /etc/init.d/firestarter status
[02:37] <keknehv> Is there any way to obtain a hoary network install disk?
[02:38] <christopher_> HI
[02:38] <christopher_> I am new to linux
[02:38] <marcin_ant> EvolutionR: you need to run frontent only when you need to do some administrative tasks
[02:38] <christopher_> and Ubuntu
[02:38] <EvolutionR> okie!
[02:38] <geppy> Why is aumix not in Hoary?
[02:38] <christopher_> can you please instruct me on how to get to the list of downloadable programs
[02:39] <christopher_> Think of me as computer illiterite
[02:39] <christopher_> please
[02:39] <geppy> christopher:  sudo apt-cache search program_you_want
[02:39] <christopher_> uh no
[02:39] <christopher_> UM
[02:39] <christopher_> The list of programs that I can download online
[02:39] <christopher_> I forget what it is called
[02:39] <geppy> christopher:  sudo aptitude ?
[02:40] <christopher_> synoptics package manager
[02:40] <christopher_> thats it
[02:40] <Linksman> synaptic
[02:40] <christopher_> how do i get to it
[02:40] <christopher_> sure
[02:40] <christopher_> i cant spell
[02:40] <Linksman> no prosbelm :-)
[02:40] <geppy> sudo synaptic ?
[02:41] <christopher_> lets imagin I am a 14 year old kid who hates windows is use to Max OSX but has a windows computer so is being forced to use Ubuntu
[02:41] <randabis> There's also a launcher for synaptic...
[02:41] <christopher_> Anything acessab;e from the Applications menu?
[02:42] <randabis> It's in the Computer menu christopher
[02:42] <christopher_> ???
[02:42] <ironwolf> christopher_:synaptic is in the menus... not under applications though.
[02:42] <bisclaveret> even after enabling all the resources as told in the ubuntu users guide, i can't apt-get install nvidia-settings
[02:42] <giard> has anyone heard of any problems setting up Ubuntu on a asus p4p800-e motherboard?
[02:42] <geppy> christopher:  Do you know if you're running Warty or Hoary?
[02:42] <christopher_> gee thanks
[02:42] <christopher_> Wart y
[02:42] <christopher_> warty
[02:42] <christopher_> at the moment
[02:43] <randabis> It's in the COMPUTER menu...
[02:43] <geppy> christopher:  "gee thanks"?
[02:43] <christopher_> uh
[02:43] <christopher_> right
[02:43] <geppy> bisclaveret:  sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx settings
[02:43] <randabis> You should have two...Applications, Computer
[02:43] <geppy> bisclaveret:  sudo nvidia-glx-settings enable
[02:43] <christopher_> thank you
[02:43] <christopher_> I found it
[02:43] <geppy> bisclaveret:  I missed a hyphen between glx in the first one, sorry
[02:43] <christopher_> I appreciate it
[02:43] <christopher_> See ya
[02:43] <randabis> np
[02:44] <bisclaveret> geppy: the guide says
[02:44] <bisclaveret>  $ sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[02:44] <bisclaveret> $ sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings
[02:44] <bisclaveret> $ sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[02:44] <bisclaveret> $ nautilus applications:///System
[02:44] <bisclaveret> i did the first one though
[02:44] <EvolutionR> I've restarted linux box...already removed the sudo firestarter command line on the gnome sesssions startup. The error window still pops up, but no firestarter on my taskbar anymore. "Insufficient Privileges" You be root to run firestarter.
[02:44] <geppy> bisclaveret:  What did it say?
[02:44] <bisclaveret> the second gives me
[02:44] <bisclaveret> Package nvidia-settings is not available, but is referred to by another package.This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[02:44] <bisclaveret> is only available from another source
[02:44] <bisclaveret> E: Package nvidia-settings has no installation candidate
[02:45] <geppy> bisclaveret:  That's odd,  it installs fine for me.
[02:45] <bisclaveret> it also doesn't show up in synaptic
[02:45] <geppy> bisclaveret:  Do you know how to enable multiverse/universe?
[02:45] <jba> hey guys, is there a way to get the ubuntu installer cd to boot a minimal kernel (like with the redhat "rescue" cd option) ?
[02:46] <geppy> bisclaveret:  If you do 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-config', does that work?
[02:46] <bisclaveret> geppy: i replaced /etc/apt.sources.list with what was found in http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[02:46] <bisclaveret> i couldn't apt-get upgrade yet though, as that would take too insanely long atm
[02:46] <bisclaveret> (150 megs on a dialup)
[02:47] <geppy> bisclaveret:  Have you run 'apt-get update'?
[02:47] <hybrid> is there a ubuntu ppc channel on this server?
[02:47] <EvolutionR> seems like my firestarter is not running when I've rebooted? in grc.com/shieldsup it displayed all "closed" not even stealth mode "Fail"!
[02:47] <randabis> it should be /etc/apt/sources.list not /etc/apt.sources.list
[02:48] <bisclaveret> aye i did
[02:48] <bisclaveret> and it installed those updates
[02:48] <geppy> bisclaveret:  I missed that, look at what randabis said.
[02:48] <K-Rich> randabis: what is that transparent terminal you use on your laptops root window ?
[02:48] <bisclaveret> randabis: i misspelled it in here
[02:49] <geppy> bisclaveret:  Can you try 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-config'?
[02:49] <randabis> K-Rich, Terminal
[02:49] <marcin_ant> EvolutionR: you need to know if firestarter daemon is running
[02:49] <K-Rich> randabis: errr.... how?
[02:49] <randabis> I've actually changed things around now though...Not running Gnome anymore
[02:49] <marcin_ant> EvolutionR: sudo /etc/init.d/firestarter status
[02:49] <randabis> K-Rich it has a very nice preferences menu that lets you change things
[02:50] <bisclaveret> bisclaveret@Dragon:~ $ sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-config
[02:50] <bisclaveret> Reading Package Lists... Done
[02:50] <bisclaveret> Building Dependency Tree... Done
[02:50] <bisclaveret> E: Couldn't find package nvidia-glx-config
[02:50] <bisclaveret> bisclaveret@Dragon:~ $
[02:50] <randabis> that's incorrect
[02:50] <randabis> have you installed nvidia-glx?
[02:50] <randabis> if so,
[02:50] <randabis> sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[02:50] <EvolutionR> marcin_ant: I forgot to remove the line at /etc/sudoers, username ALL= NOPASSWD:/usr/sbin/firestarter  :)
[02:50] <geppy|away> bisclaveret:  Sorry, 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx'
[02:50] <bisclaveret> nvidia-glx is already the newest version.
[02:50] <bisclaveret> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 106 not upgraded.
[02:50] <hybrid> does anyone know of a good bittorrent downloader for ubuntu
[02:51] <Agrajag> bittornado-gui
[02:51] <randabis> Azureus, bittorrent, bittornado
[02:51] <geppy|away> bisclaveret:  sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[02:51] <hybrid> ok thnx
[02:51] <EvolutionR> hybrid: I think the best is Azureus then bitcomet !
[02:51] <bisclaveret> okay, that did something. how do i restart x server?
[02:51] <EvolutionR> I like Azureus
[02:51] <randabis> CTRL ALT BACKSPACE
[02:51] <randabis> that will restart X
[02:52] <chiuhumm> how do you share your folders?
[02:52] <M3ta> actually, that kills it, doesn't restart it. gdm restarts it.
[02:52] <hybrid> i tried azureus on mac and didnt understand it
[02:53] <randabis> M3ta generally gdm will automatically restart it though
[02:53] <K-Rich> randabis: mind sharing the command line you use?
[02:53] <EvolutionR> hybrid: what u mean dint understand it?
[02:53] <randabis> K-Rich what do you mean?
[02:53] <K-Rich> randabis: I've been trying to do it with eterm with no success
[02:53] <randabis> I don't use eterm
[02:53] <K-Rich> randabisto make it on the root window
[02:53] <K-Rich> (over the wallpaper)
[02:54] <bisclaveret> it restarted, then crapped out on me telling me it coudln't restart x cause the configuration is wrong
[02:54] <EvolutionR> Anyone knows how to edit the Grub options when booted, some of the line I want to remove, noob!
[02:54] <randabis> I told you, I just edited my options in the preferences menu
[02:54] <K-Rich> randabis: heh i know... yo said 'terminal'
[02:54] <geppy|away> EvolutionR:  /boot/grub/grub.conf
[02:54] <EvolutionR> okie
[02:55] <K-Rich> randabis: you mean gnome-terminal ?
[02:55] <randabis> no
[02:55] <geppy|away> EvolutionR:  Wait, no, that's wrong.
[02:55] <randabis> I mean Terminal
[02:55] <hybrid> i couldnt get it to open the torrents
[02:55] <geppy|away> randabis terminal is just a generic name
[02:55] <M3ta> randabis: i don't use gdm. believe me, ctrl alt del kills X, does not restart it :)
[02:55] <EvolutionR> there's no info on the grub.conf????????????????????????????
[02:55] <randabis> geppy there is an XFCE app called Terminal
[02:55] <K-Rich> randabis: the one from GNUStep ?
[02:55] <geppy|away> randabis: my bad
[02:56] <randabis> M3ta I know, but in general most ubuntu users use gnome/gdm
[02:56] <K-Rich> randabis: okay... that is where i got confused, there is a Terminal proggie for GNUStep as well 'apt-cache search terminal'
[02:56] <EvolutionR> geppy|away:  there's no info on the grub.conf????????????????????????????
[02:56] <M3ta> randabis: ok, with that assumption... then it "restarts" it ;)
[02:56] <chiuhumm> how do you share a folder?  Like on a network.
[02:56] <M3ta> Terminal is the one from www.os-cillation.org right? pretty nice.
[02:56] <randabis> I didn't get my program from apt K-Rich
[02:56] <marcin_ant> EvolutionR: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:56] <geppy|away> EvolutionR:  /etc/grub/menu.lst
[02:56] <K-Rich> randabis: i c
[02:56] <EvolutionR> okie!
[02:57] <randabis> I used the Terminal installer at osillation
[02:57] <geppy|away> argh, I need to just copy and paste.
[02:57] <randabis> the site that provides the XFCE graphical installer
 EvolutionR: /boot/grub/menu.lst
 EvolutionR:  /etc/grub/menu.lst which one is rite?
[02:57] <geppy|away> EvolutionR:  not me
[02:57] <geppy|away> EvolutionR:  /boot
[02:57] <hybrid> umm i am kinda embarassed to ask this but call me a n00b cuz i am how do you compile from source?
[02:57] <EvolutionR> hehehehe
[02:57] <geppy|away> hybrid:  Install a program from source?
[02:57] <hybrid> yes
[02:58] <randabis> hybrid, first you need the basic build tools, you can get them from a package called build-essential
[02:58] <geppy|away> hybrid:  It should come with an INSTALL file, but './configure' 'make' 'sudo make install' is what most require.
[02:58] <randabis> then follow geppy's advice
[02:58] <EvolutionR> wait a minute I dont see any Grub on the /etc?
[02:58] <geppy|away> EvolutionR:  look in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:59] <ironwolf> haggai: awake?
[02:59] <randabis> if the compile ever fails, it is likely that you are missing dependencies required by the source
[02:59] <M3ta> EvolutionR: tip: updatedb, locate menu.lst
 EvolutionR:  look in /boot/grub/menu.lst you're rite <marcin_ant> EvolutionR: /boot/grub/menu.lst you're wrong eheheheh :P
[03:00] <EvolutionR> M3ta : okie
[03:00] <geppy|away> I just fresh-installed Hoary, and my scroll wheel wasn't detected;  how do I enable it?
[03:00] <randabis> I don't see why it wouldn't be in /boot/grub/menu.lst...that's where ubuntu puts it by default
[03:00] <bisclaveret> so after i ran that, it complains that it can't start X now :p
[03:00] <raydogg``> apt-get install linux-source doesn't work, how do you install the kernel source ( so i can compile a kernel module ? )
[03:01] <geppy|away> raydogg``:  get module-assistant
[03:01] <randabis> raydogg, it does work...it puts the source in tarball for at /usr/src
[03:01] <bisclaveret> hrm wait, trying something. brain is running reealy slow :p
[03:01] <randabis> for =form
[03:01] <raydogg``> it said it couldn't find the package for me
[03:01] <EvolutionR> geppy|away: did u try the Desktop > Preferences> Mouse ?
[03:01] <randabis> but generally to compile kernel modules you don't need the kernel source...you need the kernel headers for your running kernel
[03:02] <raydogg``> ok, how do i install the kernel headers ?
[03:02] <geppy|away> EvolutionR:  There's no way to enable the scroll wheel from that dialog.
[03:02] <randabis> sudo apt-get install linux-headers
[03:02] <randabis> if you aren't finding these packages, you need to edit your sources.list
[03:02] <EvolutionR> geppy|away: ok I cant help u....try ubuntu guide?
[03:02] <randabis> you probably don't have "restricted" enabled
[03:03] <geppy|away> EvolutionR:  I'll try it, thanks.
[03:03] <Croccifixio> hello, anybody around?
[03:03] <mike> yea
[03:03] <EvolutionR> geppy|away: ur welcome!
[03:03] <geppy|away> =)
[03:03] <Croccifixio> i got a lil trouble installing ubuntu
[03:03] <raydogg``> it found the linux-headers
[03:03] <raydogg``> installing now
[03:03] <M3ta> geppy|away: edit xorg.conf and add Option "AZxisMapping" "4 5" under Section "InputDevide"
[03:03] <Croccifixio> had no prob on one machine
[03:03] <raydogg``> thx rand
[03:04] <Croccifixio> but on the other one it has some,
[03:04] <M3ta> erm, not "AZ , it's "ZA
[03:04] <raydogg``> Has anyone tried to go fullscreen with an ati card in vmware on unbuntu ?
[03:04] <randabis> raydogg``, keep in mind I said "in general" :) what module are you trying to install anyway?
[03:04] <neighborlee> Croccifixio, what kind of problems are you having
[03:04] <Croccifixio> actually, nevermind, everything works fine now :P
[03:04] <Croccifixio> was a little hardware mistake i made, nothing major , fixed
[03:05] <neighborlee> Croccifixio, oh ok ;-)heh
[03:05] <EvolutionR> b4 I remove the 2 nd kernel lines from the Grub! How to uninstall/remove the 2nd kernel (old kernel) ?
[03:05] <Croccifixio> wanted to ask , i am planning on running a cs server off it, as well as and ftp one
[03:05] <raydogg``> vmware module
[03:05] <Croccifixio> nonono, not play cs
[03:05] <Croccifixio> i got a subscribtion to cedega
[03:05] <Croccifixio> for playing
[03:05] <randabis> EvolutionR, sudo apt-get --purge remove nameofkernelpackage
[03:05] <Croccifixio> but i mean run a dedicated server
[03:06] <EvolutionR> randabis: okie!
[03:06] <neighborlee> Croccifixio, I thought cs worked in regular wine..shrug
[03:06] <Croccifixio> nononno
[03:06] <Croccifixio> not play it !
[03:06] <randabis> That will automatically remove it from your menu.lst as well so you don't even have to change anything manually
[03:06] <Croccifixio> make a dedicated server
[03:06] <geppy|away> M3ta: Thanks!  Something was broken with my Hoary install, though, and the only xorg.confs that I'm 'locating' are backups, and manpage examples.
[03:06] <Croccifixio> there are plenty of dedicated linux servers around
[03:06] <Croccifixio> i wanna make one too
[03:06] <Croccifixio> server machine,
[03:06] <Croccifixio> i got my desktop and server
[03:07] <Croccifixio> wanna run a cs server off the linux server
[03:07] <Croccifixio> wanna know how :P
[03:07] <geppy|away> M3ta:  Somehow, it didn't install any X packages, so I had to apt-get 'em, and somehow it's missing an xorg.conf... I don't see how I got into X without it generating one.
[03:07] <EvolutionR> how to check the wat kernel version I have currently?
[03:07] <M3ta> geppy|away: it's the same procedure for xfree86
[03:07] <randabis> it might be still using Xfree geppy
[03:07] <Croccifixio> check in grub
[03:07] <geppy|away> EvolutionR:  uname -r
[03:07] <Croccifixio> its always said there
[03:07] <Croccifixio> when you boot
[03:07] <Croccifixio> 2.6.8 probably
[03:07] <geppy|away> M3ta:  I have x.org, and there's no XF86-config
[03:07] <neighborlee> Croccifixio, you'd get better support i'm sure in #gametome ..iv'e no idea since I 've never played it or served it ...try that other channel...
[03:08] <Croccifixio> ah
[03:08] <Croccifixio> thanks!
[03:08] <neighborlee> np
[03:08] <Croccifixio> (its all linux chan right?
[03:08] <EvolutionR> ok
[03:08] <neighborlee> Croccifixio, sure is
[03:08] <Croccifixio> so i wont get windows users trying to explain me how to set it up on windows
[03:08] <Croccifixio> thanks!
[03:08] <Croccifixio> i got one more question for you guys
[03:08] <neighborlee> yw
[03:08] <EvolutionR> geppy|away: what's uname for?
[03:08] <Croccifixio> ftp server
[03:08] <M3ta> geppy|away: no xorg.conf and no XF86Config-4 anywhere?
[03:08] <randabis> it should be in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:09] <Croccifixio> whats the best util to run ftp serv?
[03:09] <geppy|away> M3ta:  Right, neither of them are there.
[03:09] <M3ta> yeah, at least one of them should.. i can't figure out how you even got into X :)
[03:09] <Croccifixio> nottoo complicated
[03:09] <Croccifixio> but secure
[03:09] <Croccifixio> stable
[03:09] <geppy|away> randabis: That's what I was thinking.  =)
[03:09] <Croccifixio> etc..
[03:09] <Croccifixio> and user friendly
[03:09] <Croccifixio> i mean like
[03:09] <Croccifixio> not too complicated
[03:09] <Croccifixio> by user friendly
[03:09] <geppy|away> M3ta:  Neither can I!  =)   Shouldn't it have automatically generated one?
[03:09] <Croccifixio> so i can setup everything like i need
[03:09] <Croccifixio> without too much trouble
[03:10] <randabis> Croccifixio, you could try gFTP
[03:10] <Croccifixio> is it secure?
[03:10] <geppy|away> M3ta:  At first, I couldn't get in, because there wasn't a config, and I wasn't sure why... so I ran nvidia-glx-config enable, which made one, or so I though... at least it let me into X
[03:10] <Croccifixio> dont want some guy hijaciking my machine
[03:10] <M3ta> geppy|away: indeed it should. i'm not sure if apt-get install --reinstall or a dpkg--reconfigure will help, but i can honestly tell you it's what i would try next
[03:10] <geppy|away> M3ta:  What would you try next?
[03:10] <randabis> I don't see why it wouldn't be...security would lie more in the protocol than in the user interface
[03:10] <geppy|away> M3ta:  Oops, misread that, sory.
[03:11] <geppy|away> *sorry
[03:11] <Croccifixio> apt-get install gftp would be correct or should i look in synaptic?
[03:11] <geppy|away> M3ta:  Which packages would I reconfigure?  xserver-xorg?
[03:11] <randabis> yes sudo apt-get install gftp should do the trick
[03:11] <Croccifixio> kk , one more thing
[03:11] <M3ta> geppy|away: xorg-common, xserver-xorg
[03:11] <geppy|away> M3ta:  danke
[03:12] <Croccifixio> for bins, its ./configure <bin> or is it dpkg? been a while sorry :P
[03:12] <bisclaveret> nope. after turning off the computer, installing the vidcard, and rebooting, X refuses to restart after running that command
[03:12] <raydogg``> randabis, thanks, i got vmware installed in ubuntu now :-)
[03:12] <hou5ton> anyone know of a linux app that will print contact sheets for folders of images?
[03:12] <M3ta> geppy|away: bitte
[03:12] <randabis> Croccifixio, .bin? sh foo.bin or ./foo.bin
[03:12] <Croccifixio> o that
[03:12] <Croccifixio> right :P
[03:12] <Croccifixio> thanks'
[03:12] <M3ta> a X running without conf... damn, and i thought i saw everything
[03:12] <randabis> raydogg``, great!
[03:12] <Croccifixio> il stick around,
[03:12] <Croccifixio> using a KVM
[03:12] <Croccifixio> cant be everywhere at same time
[03:12] <Croccifixio> Be Right Back checkout the install
[03:12] <Croccifixio> still installing updates
[03:13] <bisclaveret> and now i can't get x to run with my onboard video :p
[03:13] <Croccifixio> .. sigh
[03:14] <bisclaveret> anyone have any other suggestions?
[03:15] <geppy|away> M3ta:  I'm still not getting an xorg.conf...  Should I just google for one?
[03:16] <geppy|away> M3ta:  This is decidedly the weirdest problem I've ever had, even weirder than the time that my kernel started printing "AIEEE!!!" all over the place.
[03:17] <carambol> i have install kde
[03:17] <carambol> can i remove gnome totally?
[03:17] <Riddell> carambol: awooga
[03:17] <carambol> with out problems
[03:18] <Riddell> carambol: you need to keep gnome-menus because the k-menu needs a file provided by it
[03:18] <Riddell> otherwise yes
[03:18] <carambol> whats that:ok
[03:18] <EvolutionR> how to search for the kernel versions? any command for it?
[03:18] <Riddell> unfortunatly gnome-menus has a lot of dependencies
[03:18] <geppy|away> EvolutionR:  uname -r
[03:18] <carambol> but i removed evolution
[03:19] <carambol> Riddell: i romoved evolution
[03:19] <geppy|away> carambol:  Why remove GNOME?  It's not exactly filling up your hard-drive... and if you don't like GNOME, use Mepis, or Debian.
[03:19] <geppy|away> carambol:  Not using GNOME takes away most of the advantage of using Ubuntu.
[03:19] <carambol> ok
[03:20] <carambol> ok
[03:20] <Riddell> carambol: good. feel free to use ubuntu without gnome, it is allowed
[03:20] <raydogg> is there a smb4k equivalent in ubuntu/gnome ?
[03:20] <carambol> but i wont get problems?
[03:21] <geppy|away> raydogg:  Is smb4k not in universe, or multiverse, or something?
[03:21] <Croccifixio> No response in #gametone, any other similar channels?
[03:21] <raydogg> apt-get install smb4k returns nothing
[03:21] <Riddell> carambol: not at all, the k-menu dependency is the only major issue
[03:21] <carambol> ok
[03:21] <raydogg> I have not edited any verses tho
[03:21] <carambol> thanks
[03:21] <Riddell> raydogg: smb4k is in universe
[03:21] <raydogg> ah
[03:21] <raydogg> ok
[03:21] <raydogg> guides shows me how to add that ?
[03:22] <M3ta> geppy|away: you should feel honored. the "AIEEE" errors are not for everyone's "pleasure" ;)
[03:22] <EvolutionR> geppY|away: how bout list all kernels ?
[03:22] <Riddell> raydogg: https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/InstallingKDE
[03:22] <eyequeue> EvolutionR:  ls /boot
[03:22] <Croccifixio> No response in #gametone, any other similar channels?
[03:22] <geppy|away> M3ta:  hahahahaha =D
[03:23] <geppy|away> EvolutionR:  erm... look in the grub conf?  I've never looked for a way to do it.
[03:23] <raydogg> thx riddell
[03:23] <EvolutionR> okie!
[03:25] <EvolutionR> apt-get --purge remove apt-get --purge remove kernel 2.6.8.1
[03:26] <raydogg> Riddell, it says "add universe to sections" is it replacing main restricted, or is it main restricted universe
[03:26] <EvolutionR> is like this?
[03:26] <geppy|away> M3ta: Hmm... How about I just put those options into a new text file where my xorg should be?  If it dies, it's no big problem, I can just reinstall.
[03:26] <Riddell> raydogg: keep main, add universe to the list
[03:27] <EvolutionR> opss sorry! wrong
[03:27] <EvolutionR> its like this apt-get --purge remove kernel 2.6.8.1
[03:27] <M3ta> geppy|away: seems logical. i've been fiddling with ubuntu on a laptop and i just freaked out becuase of the damn Synaptics Touchpad, and i'm reinstalling just because i kept a bunch of .confs elsewhere.
[03:28] <EvolutionR> apt-get --purge remove kernel-2.6.8.1
[03:28] <EvolutionR> Reading Package Lists... Done
[03:28] <EvolutionR> Building Dependency Tree... Done
[03:28] <EvolutionR> E: Couldn't find package kernel-2.6.8.1
[03:28] <M3ta> so, yeah, might be worth a shot if it's not too troublesome.
[03:30] <geppy|away> M3ta:  alright, cool.  Thanks!  =)
[03:30] <eyequeue> EvolutionR:  dpkg --purge linux-image-2.6.8.1-3-686
[03:30] <M3ta> geppy|away: sorry for not actually fixing your prob, but i told you what i would do hehe
[03:30] <MightyMooquack> This mobo has an onboard ethernet port. How do I get Ubuntu to see it?
[03:31] <MightyMooquack> (This same mobo used to be part of a FreeBSD box, which saw it just fine.)
[03:32] <geppy|away> M3ta:  hahaha... It's cool, thanks anyways.  =D
[03:33] <MightyMooquack> Nevermind.
[03:33] <MightyMooquack> I got it.
 so I just type this dpkg --purge linux-image-2.6.8.1-3-686 it will remove ? how I know is the linux-image-2.6.8.1-3-686 need to remove? noob
[03:35] <eyequeue> EvolutionR:  well, let's slow dow a sec then.  i assumed you knew you wanted to remove that
[03:35] <eyequeue> EvolutionR:  do you have a newer kernel you use now?
[03:36] <EvolutionR> yes of course I have a 2.6.10....and used it for few weeks, satisfied, decided to remove the old version that's 2.6.8 ....
[03:36] <eyequeue> EvolutionR:  okay then, cool
[03:37] <eyequeue> EvolutionR:  sudo dpkg --purge linux-image-2.6.8.1-3-686  <-- that's safe to type then
[03:37] <EvolutionR> eyequeue: is there any debian/ubuntu guide to remove the old kernel?
[03:37] <EvolutionR> Ok!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
[03:37] <eyequeue> EvolutionR:  that will remove the kernel and all associated files from the package
[03:38] <jba> hey guys, what's the command executed that gets a root terminal on hoary ?
[03:38] <tolstoy> sudo su?
[03:38] <randabis> sudo su
[03:38] <tolstoy> or sudo -s?
[03:38] <eyequeue> jba:  probably "sudo -s"
[03:38] <jba> aaah
[03:38] <Croccifixio> sudo apt-get install gftp doesnt work , it doesnt find it
[03:38] <jba> cause su - wasn't working form me, thanks dude
[03:38] <Croccifixio> as for my server, i found some good tutorials :D
[03:39] <sladen> jba: don't use a root terminal.  Do  sudo ...   if you actually /need/ to run that comand as root or another user
[03:39] <raydogg> I have all the repositories enabled and smb4k is still not showing up in a search
[03:39] <EvolutionR> eyequeue: let's say next time I've installed few kernel versions, but how did I know which the correct param? like linux-image-2.6.8.1-3-686
[03:39] <jba> sladen, yeah i know, but sometimes i need to execute alot of commands as root
[03:39] <Croccifixio> so any other good ftp server prog? (to make a serv not client)
[03:39] <jba> and sudo this and sudo that gets annoyin
[03:39] <EvolutionR> eyequeue: let's say next time I've installed few kernel versions, but how did I know which the correct param to remove? like linux-image-2.6.8.1-3-686
[03:39] <borat> hey everyone, i'm looking to turn my ubnuntu machine into a streaming itunes music server... i have read this guy's article http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/wlg/6067 and i got the first part down pat.  However, the second step: sudo dpkg -i mt-daapd_0.2.0_sid_i386.deb i get an error: that the file is missing.  I know there is a new version of the file .2.1.1 but i can't get it installed anyone help?
[03:39] <eyequeue> EvolutionR:  one way, ls -l /usr/share/doc/linux-image-*
[03:40] <eyequeue> EvolutionR:  then see which ones are listed
 okie I mark it down thanks!
[03:40] <Croccifixio> trouble getting gftp, whats another good ftp server?
[03:41] <geppy|away> Croccifixio:  gftp != ftp server
[03:41] <geppy|away> Croccifixio: pure-ftp
[03:41] <geppy|away> Croccifixio:  gftp is a _client_
[03:42] <Chiara`> Someone wish me luck with installing video drives... shudder.
[03:42] <rempresent> how do you install a .deb file?
[03:42] <geppy|away> rempresent:  dpkg -i file.deb
[03:42] <eyequeue> rempresent:  dpkg -i foo*.deb
[03:43] <EvolutionR> eyequeue: dpkg --purge linux-image-2.6.8.1-3-386 :)
[03:43] <borat> do you have to cd to where the .deb file is
[03:43] <Croccifixio> ah
[03:43] <Croccifixio> i need a server
[03:43] <geppy|away> borat:  Either that, or type in the full path
[03:43] <jba> wow this channel gets some absolutely green debian converts doesn't it?
[03:43] <Croccifixio> so whats a good server?
[03:43] <rempresent> no, i downloaded one... and i just have a .deb
[03:43] <borat> ah i see
[03:43] <geppy|away> borat:  e.g. 'sudo dpkg -i /path/to/file/foo*.deb'
[03:43] <EvolutionR> dpkg --purge linux-image-2.6.8.1-3-386
[03:43] <EvolutionR> dpkg: dependency problems prevent removal of linux-image-2.6.8.1-3-386:
[03:43] <EvolutionR>  linux-restricted-modules-2.6.8.1-3-386 depends on linux-image-2.6.8.1-3-386.
[03:43] <EvolutionR>  linux-image-2.6-386 depends on linux-image-2.6.8.1-3-386.
[03:43] <EvolutionR> dpkg: error processing linux-image-2.6.8.1-3-386 (--purge):
[03:43] <EvolutionR>  dependency problems - not removing
[03:43] <geppy|away> Croccifixio:  Like I said, pure-ftp
[03:43] <EvolutionR> Errors were encountered while processing:
[03:43] <sladen> jba: if you're executing alot of commands, then it's even MORE important that you use sudo
[03:43] <EvolutionR>  linux-image-2.6.8.1-3-386
[03:43] <borat> i try that... that might help me
[03:44] <jba> sladen, that's totally a debatable matter of opinion
[03:44] <rempresent> has anyone gone here :  http://www.lynucs.org/index.php ?
[03:44] <jba> but i'll let it be. I do like the whole concept of sudoing stuff in ubuntu
[03:44] <Xenguy> Croccifixio: vsftpd is your best bet AFAICT
[03:44] <eyequeue> EvolutionR:  dpkg --piirge one two three <-- list all those pacakges, where i put "one two three"
[03:44] <rempresent> some desktops that people have are totally pimp, is it hard to customize your desktop
[03:45] <eyequeue> ourge i mean
[03:45] <eyequeue> purge
[03:45] <eyequeue> lol
[03:45] <EvolutionR> eyequeue: u mean dpkg --purge linux-image-2.6.8.1-3-386 linux-restricted-modules-2.6.8.1-3-386 linux-image-2.6-386  <-=- this correct?
[03:46] <Croccifixio> pure vs vsftpd... what are the strong / weak points of each please?
[03:46] <eyequeue> EvolutionR:  exactly :)
[03:47] <randabis> why not just use
[03:47] <randabis> apt-get --purge remove linux-image-2.6.8.1-3-386
[03:47] <Croccifixio> pure vs vsftpd... what are the strong / weak points of each please?
[03:47] <eyequeue> randabis:  greater control :)
[03:48] <sladen> jba: okay.  Here's the reasons /I/ find useful.  (a) full audit log of what was /actually/ done.  (b) not executing incidental commands like 'ls' as root.  (c) having it in my command history so I can repeat blocks of commands at a keystroke
[03:48] <randabis> eyequeue fair enough :)
[03:48] <speel> hey i have 2 questions .. does ubuntu come with iptables installed and enabled? if so how do i shut iptables off?
[03:48] <Xenguy> Croccifixio: http://linuxmafia.com/pub/linux/security/ftp-daemons
[03:48] <jba> sladen, i don't want to debate it with you dude. for the most part i agree.
[03:48] <Croccifixio> thanks
[03:48] <Xenguy> Croccifixio: judge for yourself :-)
[03:49] <sladen> jba: s/okay/okay, I'm happy to let it drop.  Btw, /    :)
[03:49] <randabis> changed my desktop...:p I think it's nifty
[03:49] <randabis> http://img168.exs.cx/img168/8843/desktop9qe.jpg
[03:50] <jba> sladen, btw what? (I read that as by the way, ...)
[03:50] <speel> any one?
[03:50] <borat> i'm trying to install mt-daap from a .deb file but i got this error cp: cannot stat `/usr/share/doc/mt-daapd/mt-daapd.conf': No such file or directory anyone know what's up with that
[03:50] <rjgrange> need a little help
[03:50] <EvolutionR> eyequeue: http://pastebin.arslinux.com/1043  <---error on it need help
[03:50] <rempresent> has anyone worked with flux?
[03:51] <msh_> hi
[03:51] <msh_> i just installed the pwx webcam driver as an independent moduke
[03:51] <rjgrange> can someone help with a synaptic question?
[03:51] <msh_> module*
[03:51] <geppy|away> rjgrange:  Just ask.
[03:51] <msh_> and did modprobe pwc
[03:51] <socomm> Hello. What is the port that Apache uses by default on Ubuntu.
[03:52] <geppy|away> socomm:  80?
[03:52] <msh_> i cant get my webcam to show up as a V4L device
[03:52] <socomm> I got port fowarding on my router and I can't seem to reach my machine from the outside.
[03:52] <msh_> does anyoen have this problem
[03:52] <rjgrange> attempted to install a package, but was awarded with an error message saying I had to use it logged in as root, but I can't seem to be able to do that.
[03:52] <msh_> or does anyone have a logitech quickcam webcam running?
[03:52] <socomm> geppy|away: Yeah I got port fowarding on 80, still no luck.
[03:52] <geppy|away> socomm:  Odd.
[03:52] <Chiara`> Does anyone know if the video card drivers for linux provided on NVidia's website can be installed with ubuntu?
[03:52] <msh_> rjgrange: there is no root user
[03:52] <msh_> use sudo
[03:52] <geppy|away> Chiara`:  Don't.
[03:53] <rempresent> randabis: your desktop is nice
[03:53] <geppy|away> Chiara`:  There are ubuntu packages for the nvidia driver.
[03:53] <Chiara`> geppy: bad idea, huh?
[03:53] <msh_> http://datakill.us/screen
[03:53] <geppy|away> Chiara`:  Yeah.
[03:53] <geppy|away> Is there an infobot in here?
[03:53] <Chiara`> geppy: k, I'll look for 'em.  Thanks.
[03:53] <rjgrange> ran sudo synaptic, but it would not find the package.  Also, set the root passwd, but still nothing
[03:53] <eyequeue> EvolutionR:  did you list all of the dependent pacakge names in your purge?
[03:53] <randabis> rempresent, thanks :)
[03:53] <EvolutionR> I'm using Gnome....is there any burning software that I can use?
[03:53] <geppy|away> Chiara`:  try: apt-cache search nvidia
[03:54] <geppy|away> EvolutionR:  Nautilus?  K3B?
[03:54] <msh_> rjgrange: there is no root user in ubuntu
[03:54] <socomm> Anyone got an idea as to what could be the culprit here?
[03:54] <EvolutionR> eyequeue: I duno know, cant u help me to list out? I'm noob
[03:54] <geppy|away> socomm:  How does 127.0.0.1:80 work?
[03:54] <rempresent> that datakill one is sweet too
[03:54] <gamecat> Someone: I've got 2 CD drives, and only one of them is working for audio CD play.
[03:54] <msh_> dats mine
[03:54] <eyequeue> EvolutionR:  k
[03:54] <rjgrange> yes, figured that, so how do I get synaptic to work?
[03:54] <msh_> it works fine
[03:54] <gamecat> any hints on what to change?
[03:54] <geppy|away> gamecat:  Do they both have their audio cables plugged in?
[03:54] <socomm> geppy|away: Yes.
[03:54] <msh_> you just have to enable all the repositories
[03:55] <EvolutionR> geppy|away: k3b is for Kde I'm afraid? I use gnome,  no kde here....can install k3b?
[03:55] <gamecat> I feel like they don't, but that shouldn't matter if digital playback is enabled.
[03:55] <socomm> localhost, 127.0.0.1 all work.
[03:55] <geppy|away> socomm: If that works, then it's the port-forwarding that's the problem.
[03:55] <gamecat> I can't even add tracks to xmms for the second one.
[03:55] <randabis> EvolutionR, Yes, k3b will generally work okay in GNOME
[03:55] <EvolutionR> eyequeue: Thanks for ur effort
[03:55] <geppy|away> EvolutionR:  K3B works fine on GNOME.  It requires kde-libs, but it won't hurt you.  =)
[03:55] <EvolutionR> Okie..guys I go for k3b
[03:55] <randabis> I think Gnomebaker would be a good alternative to k3b though as well
[03:55] <msh_> does anyone use a logitech quickcam with ubuntu?
[03:55] <socomm> geppy|away: That's what I figured, but I'm forwarding on the right NIC and all.
[03:55] <socomm> :^/
[03:55] <robertj> And grave digger
[03:55] <geppy|away> socomm:  =/
[03:56] <gamecat> What I need is some insight into how XMMS is reading the CD tracks from the /cdrom directory.
[03:56] <socomm> http://69.105.23.161
[03:56] <geppy|away> socomm:  It's the port-forwarding that's broken, though, because Apache is obviously working.
[03:56] <EvolutionR> Gnomebaker???????????? which one is better k3b or gnomebaker? this is my first time using burning software on Linux...previously on windows Nero Burning Rom only!
[03:56] <Croccifixio> i think im going for vsfptd
[03:56] <gamecat> I tried creating a chain of links similar to the one that leads to /cdrom, but there's something in there I'm not comprehending.
[03:56] <geppy|away> EvolutionR:  K3B
[03:56] <socomm> geppy|away: Yeah I guess.
[03:56] <eyequeue> EvolutionR:  sudo dpkg --purge linux-image-2.6.8.1-3-386 linux-restricted-modules-2.6.8.1-3-386 linux-image-2.6-386  linux-restricted-modules-2.6-386
[03:56] <EvolutionR> OKiE!
[03:56] <eyequeue> EvolutionR:  i think i got them all :)
[03:57] <EvolutionR> eyequeue: I try
[03:57] <socomm> Just wondering, maybe Ubuntu used something funky.
[03:57] <socomm> Guess not.
[03:57] <msh_> does anyone use a logitech quickcam with ubuntu?
[03:57] <geppy|away> socomm:  No, Apache works fine for me on Ubuntu. =)
[03:57] <socomm> geppy|away: Behind a router, by any chance?
[03:58] <EvolutionR> eyequeue: dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove linux-image-2.6-386 which isn't installed. <--- except this none exits?"All of them being remove"
[03:59] <raydogg> does anyone else see smb4k in their repos?
[03:59] <raydogg> I cannot find it, i added universe
[03:59] <liquidboy> how do i gain perminant root privelages?
[04:00] <eyequeue> EvolutionR:  is it gone now? ls /boot
[04:00] <liquidboy> i read somewhere that you type something into the terminal
[04:00] <gamecat> define permanent.
[04:00] <jba> liquidboy, sladen just beat me into submission, that that was a bad thing TM to do
[04:00] <eyequeue> liquidboy:  sudo -s, but be aware of security implications
[04:00] <Xenguy> liquidboy: it's answered in a FAQ AFAIK
[04:00] <liquidboy> ok
[04:00] <liquidboy> thanks
[04:01] <rempresent> how do you get fluxbox to work
[04:01] <liquidboy> damn
[04:01] <sladen> liquidboy: sudo apt-get install   ...  etc (just type 'sudo' before anything that actually needs running as root)
[04:01] <EvolutionR> config-2.6.10-2-386  initrd.img-2.6.10-2-386  memtest86+.bin           vmlinuz-2.6.10-2-386
[04:01] <EvolutionR> grub                 lost+found               System.map-2.6.10-2-386
[04:01] <sladen> jba: :)
[04:02] <jba> hehe
[04:02] <liquidboy> ok, i installed need to transfer files fom my linux partition to a usb hd (it shows up, but i cant write to it) - im using the live cd  - cos windows xp (i instaleld it ) stuffed up grub
[04:02] <liquidboy> so i cant install anything
[04:02] <msh_> does anyone use a logitech quickcam with ubuntu?
[04:02] <EvolutionR> eyequeue: is that clean? above
[04:02] <EvolutionR> I guess so
[04:02] <eyequeue> EvolutionR:  very good :)
[04:02] <liquidboy> so i need to know how to make the hard drive writable
[04:02] <EvolutionR> thanks 100.000,000 tu u :P
[04:03] <Croccifixio> Xenguy you know how to setup a cs server on ubuntu? i found a tutorial on how to set it up, but how to add mods?
[04:03] <eyequeue> EvolutionR:  you're learning things :)
[04:03] <Xenguy> Croccifixio: "cs server" ?
[04:04] <Croccifixio> Xenguy also, could you help me setup cs-ftpd correctly and securly?
[04:04] <Croccifixio> Xenguy counter-strike
[04:04] <liquidboy> when i typed in "sudo -s" it didnt ask me for a password...
[04:04] <Xenguy> Croccifixio: nope, and no :-)
[04:04] <gamecat> were you already sudo'd?
[04:04] <Croccifixio> liquidboy if you typed it oce before in the same window its normal
[04:04] <Croccifixio> Xenguy</3
[04:04] <gamecat> what Croc said.
[04:04] <mebaran151> hey
[04:04] <liquidboy> no, the first time i typed it, it didnt ask for one
[04:04] <eyequeue> liquidboy:  if you typed it in the past few minutes, that's normal
[04:04] <mebaran151> anybody own the DI524 wireless router
[04:04] <michael_> I have ubuntu, how do I open debian (.deb) files??
[04:05] <Xenguy> Croccifixio: for vsftpd, be aware that it does allow use of SSL for extra security if yer interested
[04:05] <EvolutionR> eyequeue: yeah...I'm learning alot of linux especially from Ubuntu "Hoary" rather than other distro.
[04:05] <gamecat> if you typed "sudo", they mean.
[04:05] <gamecat> (--> liquid)
[04:05] <LinkMasterSab> Hey, if I "make install" something, then the only way to uninstall it is manually, right?
[04:05] <Xenguy> Croccifixio: have fun
[04:05] <mebaran151> my DI524 router
[04:05] <liquidboy> gamect, i ment that the very first timei typed 'sudo' (which was the command "sudo -s") it didnt ask me for a password
[04:06] <mebaran151> doesnt seem to want to dhcp anything on my linux box
[04:06] <michael_> I have ubuntu, how do I open debian (.deb) files??
[04:06] <linux-rulz> http://www.pastebin.com/236033  Does anyone know why Kmix is doing this?
[04:06] <linux-rulz> michael_: what debs did u download?
[04:06] <gamecat> you mean you haven't done any sudo commands in that terminal in the last several minutes before sudo -s?
[04:06] <Xenguy> Croccifixio: seriously, I've never done either (not trying to be a prick or anything :-)
[04:06] <michael_> umm, apps
[04:06] <michael_> I don't know what they are
[04:06] <Croccifixio> Xenguy whatever that means, i just want to setup a secure server, no annoynous, quite secure and in no way the logged in people can get root access, thats all i need :)
[04:06] <michael_> as long as they work
[04:06] <EvolutionR> eyequeue: just now if compared them "dpkg --purge linux-image-2.6.8.1-3-386 linux-restricted-modules-2.6.8.1-3-386 linux-image-2.6-386"  "dpkg --purge linux-image-2.6.8.1-3-386 linux-restricted-modules-2.6.8.1-3-386 linux-image-2.6-386  "linux-restricted-modules-2.6-386"<- except not much diffrent here
[04:06] <gamecat> it's possible, then, that your entry in the sudoers file is set to let you sudo w/out password confirmation.
[04:06] <LinkMasterSab> michael_: You want to install them?
[04:07] <gamecat> not sure how that would have been set that way tho.
[04:07] <michael_> yes
[04:07] <Croccifixio> Xenguy as well as login preferences , such as that login can dl only such can upl n dl
[04:07] <msh_> does anyone use a logitech quickcam with ubuntu?
[04:07] <mebaran151> anyboyd know much about wireless routers
[04:07] <Croccifixio> Xenguy is that possible? is it easy to setup ?
[04:07] <mebaran151> my modem always seems to fail
[04:07] <liquidboy> well, i am on the live cd...
[04:07] <LinkMasterSab> dpkg -i blah.deb
[04:07] <mebaran151> as soon as my comp tries to DHCP through the router
[04:07] <gamecat> OH.
[04:07] <mebaran151> it is most amazing
[04:07] <gamecat> OK, that does it then.
[04:07] <Xenguy> Croccifixio: like I said, I haven't done either, so you need to read, research, etc.  Could be fun :-)
[04:07] <mebaran151> I havent the slightest idea why it would work that way
[04:07] <gamecat> LiveCDs assume you're already king of the machine.
[04:07] <gamecat> Knoppix, etc, all let you go root without shaking you down first.
[04:08] <mebaran151> but the modem fails to post and resets itself when it tries to get a dhcp from the network address
[04:08] <michael_> Hello?
[04:08] <gamecat> I'd forgotten you were using the liveCD.
[04:08] <liquidboy> oh
[04:08] <mebaran151> and also whenever I try to do the configuration through 192.168.0.1
[04:08] <Croccifixio> Xenguy no , it cant be fun :P i need to save time
[04:08] <LinkMasterSab> michael_: dpkg -i blah.deb
[04:08] <mebaran151> it says permssion denied
[04:08] <michael_> in terminal?
[04:08] <liquidboy> gamecat, the usb hard drive only has write permission for root, if im root, how come i dont have write permission?
[04:08] <Xenguy> Croccifixio: FTP is inherently insecure, so it is a risky service to run from the get-go (e.g. FTP passes passwords in the clear, but maybe you are already aware of these things)
[04:08] <LinkMasterSab> Yes
[04:08] <mebaran151> are there any more linux friendly routers?
[04:08] <LinkMasterSab> Might have to sudo it
[04:08] <Croccifixio> Be Right Back take shower
[04:08] <michael_> kk
[04:08] <LinkMasterSab> Probably have to, I don't remember
[04:09] <gamecat> hmm hmm hmm.
[04:09] <gamecat> I think it's a matter of semantics, liquid.
[04:09] <LinkMasterSab> So anyways, if I "make install", how would I go about removing it?
[04:09] <gamecat> maybe if you tried su -
[04:09] <borat> okay it looks like i semi installed a file from a .deb ( i got an error) so i tried to instal an older version and now it dpkg is saying that it can't stop the procsses so i'm sorta in this limbo stage what can i do?
[04:09] <gamecat> then it would consider you the "real" root
[04:09] <gamecat> instead of user that has "gone" root.
[04:10] <liquidboy> bugger, authentication failure
[04:10] <michael_> status database is locked by another process??
[04:10] <liquidboy> i need to find a way to  boot into my linux partition but windows stuffed up grub :(
[04:10] <LinkMasterSab> michael_: You have Synaptic open?
[04:10] <gamecat> yeah, yeah. Hmm.
[04:10] <liquidboy> is there any way to boot into linux using either the install cd or the live cd?
[04:10] <liquidboy> or reinstall grub from the live cd / install cd?
[04:10] <michael_> Yes
[04:11] <LinkMasterSab> That'd be it. Close it.
[04:11] <gamecat> You might consider looking at the HOWTOs on how to create a GRUB boot disk.
[04:11] <liquidboy> gamecat: looking...
[04:11] <mebaran151> how can you create a grub disk
[04:11] <mebaran151> without grub
[04:11] <mebaran151> I always wondered that
[04:11] <IceGuest_5> hi
[04:11] <mebaran151> most of these howtos tell you
[04:11] <gamecat> you should have access to grub itself on the livecd....?
[04:11] <EvolutionR> eyequeue: the remove command --purge kernel versions was so effectively, I don't even have to delete the lines 2.6.8.1..it was auto deleted! Very Smart! :)
[04:11] <gamecat> I dunno, I've never done this.
[04:11] <mebaran151> to open the grub shell
[04:11] <tensor> hello, is there a target release date for hoary?
[04:11] <liquidboy> surely you can use the live cd as a bootdisk tho?
[04:11] <gamecat> oh, huh.
[04:12] <gamecat> you'd think so. *shrug.*
[04:12] <gamecat> hmm.
[04:12] <eyequeue> EvolutionR:  thank the packagers of that linux-image package :)
[04:12] <gamecat> you have your normal ubuntu install's /. mounted, right?
[04:12] <gamecat> r/w priv?
[04:12] <gamecat> actually... r/w/x priv?
[04:13] <liquidboy> gamecat, no sure what you mean... i can access my linuxpartition and write to it, if thats what you mean...
[04:13] <gamecat> okay, that's cool.
[04:13] <gamecat> what I meant by r/w/x... can you run programs from it?
[04:13] <liquidboy> um, ill try then
[04:13] <Dddave> hey, i got a problem with printers: trying to access a network printer (on my windows machine) thru ubuntu, but it wont print! :(
[04:13] <gamecat> If you can, then you ought to have some hope here of getting this done tonight.
[04:14] <gamecat> take a look around for faqs about installing GRUB from scratch.
[04:14] <gamecat> they OUGHT to tell you how to, once grub is configured right (which I suspect it still is?)...
[04:14] <mebaran151> any of you guys have any ideas on my router problems
[04:14] <gamecat> ... execute some script or something that'll overwrite your master boot record and tell it to boot grub instead of winxp.
[04:15] <lmurillo> can a printer be shared??
[04:15] <lmurillo> I've been trying to do so for two days now and have not been able
[04:15] <Dddave> me too!
[04:15] <Dddave> okay
[04:18] <liquidboy> gamecat, just answered the phone reading your stuff now... :P
[04:18] <lmurillo> I have tried adding it through samba and WinXP tells me that I don't have enough credentials. I want to use the method I was using before I had Ubuntu installed, that was using the printer directly through CUPS and not through samba, i.e. http://192.168.0.1:631/printers/printer
[04:19] <michael_> where do I get these packages:   Package kdelibs4 is not installed.
[04:19] <michael_>  kasteroids depends on libkdegames1 (>= 4:3.1.0); however:
[04:19] <michael_>   Package libkdegames1 is not installed.
[04:19] <liquidboy> gamecat, not sure how to make a script
[04:19] <liquidboy> or anything
[04:19] <Surphaze> anyone on hoary finding falconseye package freezing after character creation?
[04:19] <gamecat> well, neither do I. My point is, there should be some documentation somewhere on how to overwrite your MBR with an existing GRUB configuration.
[04:19] <gamecat> here, I'll do a quick google on it.
[04:20] <liquidboy> gamecat, i can execute programmes from the hard drive. :)
[04:20] <randabis> cat /dev/urandom >> /dev/dsp
[04:20] <randabis> lol
[04:20] <EvolutionR> eyequeue: yesterday I installed the apt-get install MPlayer 1.0pre6 k6 version...open up the Mplayer Apps > Sound & Video > Mplayer ...an error dialog box came out "New_FACE failed. Maybe the font path is wrong. Please supply the text font file (~/.mplayer/subfont.ttf).
[04:21] <liquidboy> gamecat, so the 'make grub boot floppy' wont work, cos gruib's not installed?
[04:21] <borat> okay it looks like i semi installed a file from a .deb ( i got an error) so i tried to instal an older version and now it dpkg is saying that it can't stop the procsses so i'm sorta in this limbo stage what can i do?
[04:21] <eyequeue> EvolutionR:  is there some pacakge like mplayer-fonts?
[04:22] <eclipse> anyone knows if there's a driver for nokia 6230 phone for linux?
[04:22] <gamecat> liquidboy : dag, man, I dunno! But here, check this out: http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-7.2-Manual/ref-guide/ch-grub.html
[04:22] <gamecat> (scroll down to the very bottom.)
[04:22] <EvolutionR> eyequeue: I just apt-get Mplayer not fonts...I try to look for it
[04:23] <eyequeue> k
[04:23] <gamecat> Note that I have NEVER DONE THIS. so, at your own risk.
[04:23] <liquidboy> well, ive got nothing to loose
[04:23] <liquidboy> theese files are *quite* important...
[04:23] <gamecat> but it looks like you'll want to open a terminal, go root, surf to your original / 's /sbin
[04:23] <liquidboy> but thats my silly fault for not backing upt o external hd in the first plcae
[04:24] <gamecat> run .grub-install hda1 (I'm assuming that's your main HD?)
[04:24] <jeld> good day everyone
[04:24] <gamecat> and hopefully that'll do it... but before you do anything.
[04:24] <gamecat> did you already have winXP installed?
[04:24] <gamecat> and then you re-installed it?
[04:24] <jeld> can anyone help me with my sudoers file?
[04:25] <liquidboy> damn, doesnt work
[04:25] <jeld> I am trying to setup a command (firestarter firewall) to start automatically. I added a line to my sudoers with NOPASSWD: flag, but now when I open a terminal I can do sudo whatever and never get asked for a password
[04:25] <Croccifixio> back
[04:25] <liquidboy> permission denied
[04:26] <Croccifixio> No
[04:26] <Croccifixio> im allowed to be back
[04:26] <gamecat> suck. Okay, researching, please hold.
[04:26] <jeld> Croccifixio, :)
[04:26] <Croccifixio> and anyways you aren the one il ask the persmission to
[04:26] <Croccifixio> well time to setup the cs server
[04:26] <Croccifixio> Away From Keyboard
[04:27] <Croccifixio> uhh
[04:27] <EvolutionR> eyequeue: u think this theme is kewl? which one is kewl? my gnome desktop Eg.My computer, trashbin,etc..icons so boring! :)http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=19775&PHPSESSID=6633c04dd9e8f23f2483a1fe3748b955
[04:27] <Croccifixio> quick question
[04:27] <Croccifixio> how do i stay logged in, but quit x ?
[04:27] <Croccifixio> as in , i stay logged in in the user , but x is closed?
[04:27] <HrdwrBoB> Croccifixio: um.. what do you mean
[04:27] <jeld> Croccifixio, what do you mean stay logged in?
[04:28] <HrdwrBoB> Croccifixio: your X session *IS* your login
[04:28] <HrdwrBoB> if you kill X
[04:28] <HrdwrBoB> you cannot be 'logged in'
[04:28] <Croccifixio> i wanna stay in the command line interface
[04:28] <Croccifixio> without loading x
[04:28] <jeld> Croccifixio, login on a virtual tty and quit X
[04:28] <Croccifixio> how would that be done?
[04:28] <jeld> Croccifixio, CTRL-ALT-F1
[04:28] <Croccifixio> so X is closed?
[04:28] <eyequeue> Croccifixio:  you can run a cli irc client (like irssi) under screen, and then attach to that from your x session i guess
[04:28] <Croccifixio> cause i will be using that machine as server not desktop
[04:28] <liquidboy> gamecat, ive just had an idea. ive got a live cd version of beosmax, i can boot into that and tranfer the files over that way...
[04:28] <Croccifixio> so i need to use the less ressources poss
[04:28] <jeld> Croccifixio, then login as user, then sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[04:29] <jeld> Croccifixio, that will stop X
[04:29] <Croccifixio> i got two machines
[04:29] <Croccifixio> the one im on
[04:29] <lmurillo> ok, this is what my smb.conf looks like: http://lcmurillo.spymac.net/smb.conf
[04:29] <Croccifixio> and the one i am setting up
[04:29] <liquidboy> hey guyes, if gamecat wonders where ive beem, tell him im trying something and ill be back later if it doesnt work...
[04:29] <gamecat> I'm here.
[04:29] <Croccifixio> sso i go sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop?
[04:29] <gamecat> whoops, shit.
[04:29] <lmurillo> I'm trying to be able to print from a WinXP box
[04:29] <HrdwrBoB> Croccifixio: the overhead of running X and not actively using it is close to sweet FA
[04:29] <jeld> can anyone help with my sudo problem?
[04:30] <Croccifixio> FA being...?
[04:30] <HrdwrBoB> F all
[04:30] <lmurillo> I keep getting that I don't have enough credentials to install the printer :s
[04:30] <eyequeue> Croccifixio:  i do connect to another non-gui box, where i have irssi running under screen
[04:30] <Croccifixio> uh huh
[04:30] <EvolutionR> I've apt-get install k3b, but where is the Gui? which Category section located in order to run k3b?
[04:30] <duncanm> hola
[04:30] <Croccifixio> thats what i wanna do, take out the gui , i mean keep it in, but not use it
[04:30] <eyequeue> Croccifixio:  if you run it on the non-gui box, you can connect from that gui box, if you like
[04:30] <duncanm> who's the guy in charge of packaging Mono for Ubuntu?
[04:30] <duncanm> jdub: hey?
[04:30] <Croccifixio> i want to not use the gui
[04:31] <EvolutionR> I've found the k3b in Sound & video.
[04:31] <eyequeue> Croccifixio:  make it so that gdm doesn't start
[04:32] <Croccifixio> that would be i go into grub
[04:32] <EvolutionR> But the K3b start with the error dialog box saying "Unable to find CDRAO executable"
[04:32] <Croccifixio> and add a comand line?
[04:32] <Croccifixio> what would the command line be?
[04:32] <nyktovus> need help using grip please
[04:32] <eyequeue> Croccifixio:  example, rm /etc/rc2.d/S99gdm
[04:33] <jeld> can anyone help me configure my sudoers?
[04:33] <EvolutionR> But the K3b start with the error dialog box saying "Unable to find cdrdao executable"
[04:33] <Croccifixio> but that would totally remove it
[04:33] <Croccifixio> i want to keep it
[04:33] <Croccifixio> but use it from time to time
[04:33] <eyequeue> Croccifixio:  i don't want you doing that until you understand that
[04:33] <Croccifixio> i wont dont worry
[04:33] <deshantm> jeld, edit /etc/sudoers
[04:33] <Croccifixio> eyequeue pm, il explain my situation
[04:33] <EvolutionR> I'm installing the cdrdao!
[04:33] <anthem1> Hey all... quick question.  I just installed ubuntu and like it, but I screwed up.  I typed my root password in the dark, and messed it up.  Both times.  Idententically.  Am I just screwed?  Do I need to reinstall?
[04:33] <jeld> deshantm, I have a particular problem, I am trying to add a program to start without a password
[04:34] <jeld> deshantm, after I added a line with NOPASSWD: I am now never prompted for password
[04:34] <jeld> deshantm, for any command
[04:34] <deshantm> jeld, wow that's kinda cool but assuming not what you want?
[04:35] <rapala61> can someone tell me how to patch my 2.6.10 kernel with the 2.6.11 patch on kernel.org
[04:35] <jeld> deshantm, the line reads myuser ALL=NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/firestarter
[04:35] <EvolutionR> I've tried to run k3bsetup2 run as root dialog box came out, asking me to enter my password...I've put my normal account password it wont get me in?
[04:35] <deshantm> jeld, what are you trying to do?
[04:35] <jeld> deshantm, I only want firestarter not to ask for password
[04:36] <deshantm> jeld, oh i have never done that...
[04:36] <jeld> deshantm, I am not very familiar with sudo and the man page on sudoers is kinda confusing :)
[04:36] <nyktovus> i'm getting an error "invalid encoder executable" in grip.. anyone help?
[04:37] <randabis> EvolutionR, try it without any password
[04:37] <EvolutionR> randabis: okie
[04:38] <EvolutionR> randabis: without password wont let me in either....there's only one way "click ignore" then it let me go to the page!
[04:38] <rapala61> i need help to patch my 2.6.10 kernel with the 2.6.11 patch on kernel.org
[04:38] <EvolutionR> k3bsetup2 why they ask for root password, I've put rootpassword they wont let me in why??????????
[04:39] <jba> EvolutionR, use your own password on sudo
[04:39] <jba> there is no root password
[04:39] <EvolutionR> jba: is my sudo password I'm putting is not letting me in?
[04:39] <jba> EvolutionR, use your logn password when sudo asks for root password
[04:40] <EvolutionR> is all my sudo = root password
[04:40] <EvolutionR> not working for k3bsetup2 u try?
[04:40] <LinkMasterSab> Blah, I wish I could make modem-lights more useful
[04:40] <LinkMasterSab> But uh, pon/poff have to be run under sudo
[04:41] <EvolutionR> rapala61: why u need to patch...something wrong with ur current kernel version?
[04:41] <LinkMasterSab> And I can't make it prompt me for my password
[04:41] <LinkMasterSab> Is there some way to make it give me a password prompt for sudo without it being in terminal?
[04:41] <EvolutionR> LinkMasterSab: Have u try rp-pppoe ?
[04:42] <LinkMasterSab> EvolutionR, what's that?
[04:42] <anthem1> Can anybody tell me  if there's a way to fix my problem?  I evidently mistyped my password when I installed in the dark last night.  Do I have to uninstall?
[04:42] <EvolutionR> LInkMasterSab: is another PPPoE client to connect DSL (internet)
[04:42] <LinkMasterSab> EvolutionR, I'm on dialup
[04:42] <HrdwrBoB> LinkMasterSab: gksudo
[04:42] <kayo> EvolutionR: can you log in as your user?
[04:42] <EvolutionR> jba: try u run k3bsetup...and enter ur password will it let u go in? let me know!
[04:42] <LinkMasterSab> HrdwrBoB, thanks.
[04:43] <EvolutionR> kayo: wat u mean can I log in as user?
[04:43] <jba> EvolutionR, not at my linux machine now dude, sorry, and i run gnome
[04:43] <kayo> soory was for anthem1
[04:43] <rapala61> EvolutionR, not really .. i just wanna try it , but i dunno how to patch kernels "oops"
[04:43] <LinkMasterSab> That's exactly what I needed.
[04:43] <EvolutionR> okie I also run on Gnome too :)
[04:44] <deshantm> jeld, http://techweb.rfa.org/pipermail/portaudio/2002-February/000512.html
[04:44] <EvolutionR> LinkMasterSab: okie
[04:44] <deshantm> jeld, best link i have found so far
[04:44] <LinkMasterSab> Also: is there some way to make a command run on startup? I want it to run the command to setserial my modem
[04:45] <nyktovus> i'm getting an error "invalid encoder executable" in grip.. anyone help?
[04:45] <jeld> deshantm, let me try, but this sounds exactly as what I am doing
[04:45] <deshantm> jeld, this one too http://www.essenz.com/support/comp.unix.admin/Aug/27/110847.html
[04:45] <jdub> nyktovus: sounds like you've configured it to use an encoder that doesn't exist on your system; why grip instead of sound-juicer?
[04:45] <deshantm> jeld, good luck
[04:45] <gamecat> Okay. Who is going to be here for a while?
[04:45] <EvolutionR> jba: if I wanted to burn a vcd to cd I choose k3b > new data CD project will it work?????????????
[04:45] <gamecat> I need to LEAVE, but I've found what liquidboy was looking for.
[04:46] <gamecat> I need someone to pass it on.
[04:46] <jba> yeah so long as you keep the folder structure
[04:47] <gamecat> seriously, anyone who can pass on a URL and a few words?
[04:47] <EvolutionR> I wanted to ask ...I saw so many open source community in the irc channel helping each other out! How bout Microsoft windows like Winxp help channel on irc...is there any? I think open source is much friendlier :)
[04:47] <LinkMasterSab> EvolutionR, there probably is, just unofficial
[04:48] <BMP_> ....wow, that might be the biggest userlist I've ever seen, and I might be the biggest nerd for making that observation.
[04:48] <jeld> deshantm, got it, the sudo cache was tricking me
[04:49] <jeld> deshantm, this is a bit strange though
[04:49] <LinkMasterSab> Is there anything that's equivalent to .chm for Linux?
[04:49] <lmurillo> I'm back, now I have added the printer to WinXp, but when I send something to print the printer goes into pause mode and if I try to resume it it will go back to pause, and it will only resume once the job has been cancelled :(
[04:49] <EvolutionR> oic....now since linux becoming more user friendlier in terms of hardware driver support, I seldom use my Windows XP sp2 running! Hate to patch all those windows updating thing...patch for holes all weekend! :P~
[04:49] <BMP_> Anyone in here played around with Ubuntu Live CD on a PowerPC system?
[04:50] <BMP_> I'm trying to talk it into mounting my HD so I can access all my files and fun things
[04:50] <EvolutionR> I leave my windows XP sp2 for the Multimedia stuff that can't be running at the moment maybe in future like eg. CD-ROM PC games titles...etc
[04:50] <BMP_> all I know is that mac OS X calls the partition /dev/disk0s5, but linux (which I'm not used to, it's far away from my bsd/osx home) has waaay different names for hd partitons.
[04:51] <timothyarnold85> does anyone here know if I can get m4a support (the format itunes rips into) for ubuntu?
[04:51] <smo> EvolutionR: As far as I can tell, you need to go to System Tools -> Root Terminal, and run k3b from there (and not from sudo/gksu) (atleast for long enough to get k3bsetup out the way.  (as per a very bad translation of https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/ItalianDocumentationHowToInstallK3b/view?searchterm=k3b )
[04:51] <gamecat> One more time... anyone willing to pass on some info?
[04:51] <jeld> deshantm, try this for fun: 1. open a new gnome terminal 2. sudo visudo <enter password> 3. close the terminal 4. open a new one and try the command again. It will not ask you for a password. I know that sudo remembers authentication info for some time, but I kinda figured that if I close the terminal it would forget that info. Looks that it goes by terminal device to differentiate between sessions
[04:51] <lmurillo> anyone willing to help me get the printer working :(
[04:51] <randabis> gamecat maybe...depends on the info and where I need to pass it too
[04:52] <gamecat> Awesome randabis, thanks.
[04:52] <BMP_> try that hymn program people were pushing around
[04:52] <jeld> deshantm, thanx
[04:52] <EvolutionR> I heard the Mac Mini was lauched few days ago, if not mistaken, have anyone else running mini mac???? how was it? I think mini mac was the affordable mac package in my country (Malaysia) at the moment!
[04:52] <gamecat> liquidboy, when he comes back, needs info involving GRUB.
[04:52] <BMP_> that supposedly can make it play a little nicer
[04:52] <gamecat> what he wants is right here: http://www.desktop-linux.net/grub.htm
[04:52] <randabis> okay
[04:52] <randabis> I can do that
[04:52] <gamecat> The reason what he was trying to do earlier didn't work is that he was trying to install to a partition, i.e. hda1.
[04:52] <BMP_> mini mac is definetley the most affordable mac in any country at the moment. I've played with one in the store, they're very nice
[04:53] <lmurillo> I have done exactly what the wiki faq says and I still get the same error :(
[04:53] <randabis> I wouldn't run a Mac Mini with less than 512MB ram though
[04:53] <gamecat> he couldn't do that, because there was some sort of sanity check keeping him from killing his winxp bootloader.
[04:53] <EvolutionR> smo: meaning have to run as root ....okie mean it's not necessary for me to run the k3bsetup2 at the moment! just wanna burn some vcds to cd
[04:53] <randabis> hah
[04:53] <BMP_> OS X felt nice and snappy on it. Final Cut Pro and such kinda choked
[04:53] <gamecat> Anyway, what he wants is on the page.
[04:53] <gamecat> tell him to use the instructions to build a grub boot disk from windows.
[04:53] <BMP_> and yes, bump the ram on any mac, they're very hungry for ti
[04:53] <BMP_> *it
[04:54] <gamecat> and then follow the instructions to boot into linux, and THEN run grub-install to overwrite the master boot record.
[04:54] <randabis> Well the problem with 256MB RAM on a mac mini is there will be too much disk swapping going on
[04:54] <gamecat> All else fails: http://www.desktop-linux.net/grub.htm has everything he needs.
[04:54] <gamecat> Thanks so much!
[04:54] <randabis> ok
[04:54] <randabis> np
[04:54] <EvolutionR> BMP: except for the limited RAM for the Mac Mini, can add more RAM to it any more slots?
[04:54] <gamecat> /exit ciao amigos
[04:54] <randabis> the 512MB upgrade for the mac mini is only 70 dollars
[04:54] <BMP_> there's only that one slot in there, you have to take the original ram out to put more in =/
[04:54] <smo> As I understand it, there's a single slot, which may take one of 256/512/1024 (at your option/expense)
[04:55] <randabis> yes
[04:55] <BMP_> don't buy ram from apple though, shop around, they charge far too much for it
[04:55] <randabis> 70 dollars for 512MB is pretty competitive I think...I believe it's PC3200 even
[04:55] <EvolutionR> randabis: I always admire Mac design their so kewl, but never get to experience the Mac computer yet like G4 G5 Mac Mini
[04:55] <BMP_> this computer I'm on is about 300 megs of ram (an older iBook) it has to go to the disk a lot
[04:55] <xskoulax> from what i was reading BMP_ the 512 upgrade is well priced
[04:55] <BMP_> did they drop it? it used to be a fortune
[04:55] <xskoulax> but yea in general buying ram from apple is a mistake
[04:56] <randabis> BMP yes they did price cuts on both the 512MB and 1024MB upgrades
[04:56] <EvolutionR> BMP_: in my country (malaysia) I dont think any other shops selling Mac RAMs around, only the Mac apple shops selling...
[04:56] <deshantm> jeld, cool glad you got it i will try what you said
[04:56] <xskoulax> EvolutionR, shop online
[04:56] <EvolutionR> xkoulax: good idea!
[04:57] <EvolutionR> xskoulax: good idea!
[04:57] <randabis> EvolutionR, Yes, they are very asthetically pleasing, and MacOSX is a great OS
 that was a good idea for the single slot, which may take one of 256/512/1024 (at your option/expense)
[04:57] <randabis> I don't have one, but if I were to get one, I'd definitely get a mac mini with 512MB, plus a superdrive
[04:58] <BMP_> I'm a big fan of it myself. OS 9 and the ones before were....okay. Despite what mac fans say, I think windows had caught up or surpassed it. OS X was a smart move.
[04:58] <EvolutionR> Mac computer system are always good at Multimedia Stuff like DVD movie editing....etc so add 1 gZ of RAM should be good enuf/ minimum RaM IMHO
[04:58] <randabis> I hated OS9 personally :p
[04:59] <xskoulax> the ibook is a better value than the mac mini
[04:59] <randabis> EvolutionR, Yeah, but you'd start getting limited by the CPU in the Mac Mini
[04:59] <xskoulax> overall
[04:59] <EvolutionR> Anyone using Mac Mini with Ubuntu or Linux Distros at the moment?
[04:59] <BMP_> my powerbook is a couple of years old and I bumped it to 1 gig of ram. It runs final cut pro and all the pro apps without a hitch. It's processor is similar to the mac mini's as well
[04:59] <randabis> xskoulax, Yeah, I agree...the new powerbooks are pretty affordable too (they just released faster, cheaper ones)
[05:00] <EvolutionR> randabis: what's the specs of the CPU ?
[05:00] <BMP_> I've used the powerbook and iBook with ubuntu liveCD going. no hitches. Everything worked.
[05:00] <xskoulax> i really want iMac 20" but that will have to wait a while yet, i need to upgrade my gaming box first
[05:00] <xskoulax> yea noticed that today
[05:00] <xskoulax> my dad has powerbook and got my brother ibook for xmas
[05:00] <xskoulax> both really nice machines
[05:00] <randabis> EvolutionR, I believe the Mac Mini starts with a G4 1.25GHZ cpu
 my powerbook is a couple of years old and I bumped it to 1 gig of ram. It runs final cut pro and all the pro apps without a hitch. It's processor is similar to the mac mini's as well <---it means mac mini with 1 gig of RAM can run those mulitmedia stuff like final cut pro without a hitch? kewl!!!!!!!!!!
[05:01] <xskoulax> randabis thats correst
[05:01] <randabis> The more expensive one has a 1.4 I think
[05:01] <xskoulax> ummm s correst/correct ;p
[05:01] <randabis> hehe
[05:01] <xskoulax> biggest draw back on the mac mini imho is the laptop drive its using
[05:01] <EvolutionR> randabis: can compare to Mac Mini with Athlon XP models????????????
[05:02] <BMP_> EvolutionR: yep. It does just fine. now the Power Mac G5 is unbelievable with that kind of stuff, but the powerbook (and I bet the mini mac) will fare just fine.
[05:02] <xskoulax> i wish they would have made the box bigger but thrown a sata drive in there
[05:02] <randabis> EvolutionR, They are different architectures and run different operating systems...kinda hard to compare
[05:02] <xskoulax> or ide even
[05:02] <EvolutionR> okie
[05:02] <BMP_> Here's a question. I'd love to jump over to Ubuntu on the main computer in my house, which is a 500mhz Dell clunk running XP home (decent ram at least), the only problem is that it gets it's internet access through wifi, specifically a Linksys USB wifi adapter.
[05:02] <shock> my powerbook g4 15" runs like a charm, too =)
[05:02] <EvolutionR> randabis: okie :)
[05:02] <BMP_> if I were to ubuntu that up, would it play nice?
[05:02] <shock> just wanted to mention that
[05:02] <BMP_> wow, lotsa mac fans in here =P
[05:03] <randabis> BMP_, Well, you'd have to check if the usb adapter is supported with NDISWRAPPER
[05:03] <shock> *g*
[05:03] <shock> I would be VERY carefull about anthing usb
[05:03] <shock> :/
[05:03] <EvolutionR> BMP: Mac computer systems design looks kewl especially their LCD monitors, mouse , keyboard WoW!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:03] <randabis> also, it most likely will NOT run out of the box
[05:03] <raydogg> randabis, do you have smb4k in your repository, I do not see it.
[05:03] <shock> just had some bad experiences with usb gadgets @ my girlfriends computer....
[05:04] <shock> *sigh*
[05:04] <randabis> so, you'll need to connect it to wired internet to grab some packages for it (or do some CD burning
[05:04] <xskoulax> shock, you know if they have drivers for that stupid broadcom chip in the airport extream yet?
[05:04] <EvolutionR> I've heard the Mac thing have their wifi something ????
[05:04] <BMP_> it might end up being okay though. there is talk of our house moving the wireless base station because of signal issues, and if we did, that'd put that computer within ethernet cable range of the base.
[05:04] <shock> they dont
[05:04] <shock> :/
[05:04] <xskoulax> thought that was the case
[05:04] <randabis> raydogg, I'll look
[05:04] <raydogg> thanks
[05:04] <shock> but at least suspends working nowadays
[05:04] <shock> :)
[05:04] <raydogg> I got everything else working :-)
[05:04] <raydogg> Just not that
[05:04] <BMP_> Mac's Wifi thing is no different from anyone else's. they just call it Airport, or AirMac in some parts of the world
[05:04] <raydogg> by everything, i mean everything i used to do in mandrake
[05:04] <randabis> raydogg, Yes, I have it in my repositories
[05:05] <raydogg> odd
[05:05] <raydogg> i wonder what i'm doing wrong
[05:05] <randabis> I run hoary though
[05:05] <xskoulax> BMP_, i know, but broadcom dosn't provide drivers or technical info for other people to make them
[05:05] <raydogg> i'm running warty i think
[05:05] <EvolutionR> wow suddenly MAC fans here LOL @_0
[05:05] <BMP_> how well does Ubuntu act as a server? that computer running XP home might be in a good position for Apache now.
[05:05] <shock> jup... and never forget that wonderfull "firmware layer" in macs :/
[05:05] <EvolutionR> anybody running Linux on Mac Mini / G5?
[05:06] <BMP_> God knows Ubuntu will be better than _XP Home_ for hosting
[05:06] <eyequeue> shock:  how did you get suspend working?
[05:06] <randabis> ndiswrapper will work with broadcom chipsets though :)
[05:06] <randabis> not out of the box, but after you set it up
[05:06] <shock> installing a patched kernel
[05:06] <eyequeue> BMP_:  "fine" imo
[05:06] <randabis> BMP_ Ubuntu can make an excellent server
[05:06] <shock> with a patch posted in debian-powerpc mailing list
[05:06] <shock> =)
[05:06] <EvolutionR> anybody running Linux on Mac Mini / G5?
[05:06] <BMP_> one thing that i was suprised and delighted with is that Ubuntu will sleep just like OS X when the lid of the Powerbook or iBook is shut. The light even pulses like OS X, and came right back up fine.
[05:06] <shock> its only for the ATI card based books
[05:07] <Lowry> hi all
[05:07] <shock> hoi
[05:07] <randabis> hello
[05:07] <Lowry> Just unpacking my mac mini
[05:07] <BMP_> (I had a long time to play with it, I had it in the drive of my Powerbook on a car trip. I have to say, I like Ubuntu a lot, and am considering setting aside a chunk of time to talk my powerbook into dual booting it and OSX)
[05:07] <EvolutionR> do the Mac Mini support PCI-express?????????????????????
[05:07] <BMP_> oooooooooo
[05:07] <Lowry> Where on the hd does Ubuntu ppc like to be installed?
[05:07] <BMP_> mac mini, gimme
[05:07] <shock> i do not know evol
[05:07] <EvolutionR> Lowry: that's was kewl!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[05:07] <Lowry> 1st partition?
[05:08] <Lowry> Are there any rules?
[05:08] <shock> er.... doesnt matter what partition
[05:08] <shock> *g*
[05:08] <Lowry> Great
[05:08] <Lowry> Not like mklinux ect
[05:08] <xskoulax> BMP_, the sleep is hardware feature
[05:08] <Lowry> Thanks
[05:08] <xskoulax> so it should worrk
[05:08] <xskoulax> ;p
[05:08] <randabis> You'll have to resize your MacOS partition of course :)
[05:08] <shock> i got my ubuntu on /dev/hda4
[05:08] <Lowry> I will do a clean install
[05:08] <shock> running /home on hda6
[05:08] <EvolutionR> Mac mini what do they have a floopy drive, cdrom,...etc?
[05:08] <randabis> uh...Why?
[05:08] <Lowry> just need to know how to set it up
[05:08] <shock> and whackos on hda3
[05:09] <shock> *g*
[05:09] <BMP_> EvolutionR: there is a cd drive, but no floppy. An external floppy drive for one is very cheap though
[05:09] <randabis> Why not run MacOSX, and ubuntu?
[05:09] <Lowry> So make a 10g Ubuntu patition at the end off the hd?
[05:09] <shock> Lowry - remember to make a seperate /home partition
[05:09] <shock> that allways pays off
[05:09] <randabis> yes definitely
[05:09] <EvolutionR> BMP_: mac mini have pci express technology ?
[05:09] <shock> and I was thinking about making one /usr/src *g*
[05:09] <BMP_> I say lowry should look at getting yaboot, so that way he can have both and pick which one he wants at startup
[05:09] <Lowry> agp port
[05:10] <BMP_> EvolutionR: nope, they don't. =/
[05:10] <BMP_> no PCI.
[05:10] <EvolutionR> Lowry: I heard Yellow Dog worked great on Mac systems!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :) is it IMHO
[05:10] <eyequeue> sharing /home always burns me
[05:10] <Lowry> has a 4x agp with ati 9200
[05:10] <randabis> Mac Mini has the video integrated on the board I think...that's what I gathered from the pics of its guts
[05:10] <Lowry> 32 mb ram
[05:10] <Lowry> hope dri works
[05:10] <randabis> dri should work for it
[05:10] <EvolutionR> a 4x agp ati 9200 how many ram?
[05:11] <eyequeue> because the various machines have different app versions, so the files in $HOME are of different formats or options than needed
[05:11] <Lowry> ati card is soldered/part of the mac
[05:11] <randabis> 32MB
[05:11] <EvolutionR> 64 , 128?
[05:11] <EvolutionR> oic 32MB
[05:11] <Lowry> 32
[05:11] <BMP_> hmmm, I'm gonna go wander off to bed and play around with Ubuntu tomorrow.
[05:11] <BMP_> hey wait, what is the minimum ram requirement of the Ubuntu live CD?
[05:11] <EvolutionR> 32 only mine Nvidia Geforce 2 have 64 MB....
[05:11] <terry> Am I clueless or did Ubuntu not ask me to set a root password??
[05:11] <EvolutionR> ehehheeh on PC
[05:11] <EvolutionR> of course
[05:11] <BMP_> I may wanna run it on school computers tomorrow =)
[05:11] <Vjaz> terry: it did not
[05:11] <Lowry> Worked with 128 on my g3 powerbook
[05:11] <eyequeue> terry:  no root in ubuntu
[05:11] <Vjaz> terry: in Ubuntu, you use sudo
[05:12] <MedusaErodeus> Hello!
[05:12] <eyequeue> terry:  disabled for security
[05:12] <terry> errrrr,hrmmmmm uhhhh errrrrr
[05:12] <randabis> EvolutionR, the Mac Mini isn't meant for graphically intensive applications
[05:12] <Lowry> how low can ram go?
[05:12] <Vjaz> terry: you know sudo?
[05:12] <terry> I know sudo
[05:12] <Vjaz> good :-)
[05:12] <terry> just gotta teach it to my fingers
[05:12] <EvolutionR> randabis: ok! I heard Yellow Dog worked great on Mac systems!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :) is it IMH
[05:12] <eyequeue> terry:  in that case, the first user set up is in the sudoers file, all/all
[05:12] <EvolutionR> O
[05:12] <BMP_> my school computers are CRAP though. 64mb at most, windows98 at best. meanwhile, therer is a school around here that is GIVING OUT new tablet Pc's to every studen
[05:13] <BMP_> which is pretty awesome.
[05:13] <randabis> correction, there IS a root user in ubuntu
[05:13] <randabis> he's just disabled by default
[05:13] <terry> okay
[05:13] <Lowry> pc tablet - work with linux?
[05:13] <BMP_> my sister is going there, however I'm a senior, so transfering would just be a waste of time considering half the year is over.
[05:13] <randabis> EvolutionR, Never used Yellow Dog...dunno
[05:13] <EvolutionR> BMP_: are u a teacher....I suggest install linux on ur school much better, less crash than the win98 have
[05:13] <BMP_> I dunno, when I get my hands on my sister's I'll find out pretty quick
[05:13] <Lowry> Like os x - root is 'there' ready to use
[05:13] <Lowry> But you are just another user
[05:14] <BMP_> I usually boot DamnSmallLinux on the school computers. Knoppix won't load it's KDE, and I did not know of ubuntu at the time
[05:14] <EvolutionR> BMP_: I've read somewhere Yellow Dog Linux worked quite well on Mac ... (linux format magazine UK)
[05:14] <Lowry> Try Ubuntu ppc
[05:14] <Lowry> 1 cd
[05:14] <eyequeue> BMP_:  there's also a lowmem option, in "expert" install mode
[05:14] <Lowry> Lots of working apps
[05:14] <Vjaz> DSL probably has the advantage of working on just about any low end hardware.
[05:15] <Lowry> Thx ppl
[05:15] <BMP_> I have used Yellow Dog on my ibook
[05:15] <BMP_> I liked it but had some issues
[05:15] <BMP_> mainly it did not like my display
[05:15] <Lowry> I hope there will be fan control support soon
[05:15] <BMP_> however, that's the computer's fault i think
[05:15] <Lowry> How hard was that with the g5's?
[05:15] <BMP_> as even OS X had problems with the display sometime
[05:15] <EvolutionR> I think we sould start a channel like #ubuntu&mac hahhahahaah LOL
[05:16] <BMP_> those issues didn't get fixed until OS X.3
[05:16] <eyequeue> #ubuntu-ppc
[05:16] <BMP_> newer iBooks shouldn't have that problem mine did
[05:16] <Lowry> Will the fan run full on with ubuntu as a safe mode?
[05:16] <xskoulax> EvolutionR, #ubuntu-ppc perhaps
[05:16] <BMP_> #ubuntu-ppc would be a fine channel indeed. I'd go.
[05:16] <xskoulax> eyequeue, too fast for me
[05:16] <Lowry> ie no software control
[05:16] <EvolutionR> xskoulax: great!
[05:17] <BMP_> hey, does Ubuntu have any sort of power management system in place?
[05:17] <BMP_> my powerbook has it's fan and processor going full blast the entire time
[05:17] <xskoulax> EvolutionR, eyequeue beat me too it
[05:17] <randabis> BMP_, I believe it does APM and ACPI...Not sure on PPC
[05:18] <BMP_> which...yipes, cooks your privates REAL quick. OS X has a power management system to slow down the processor if it's not being used as much
[05:18] <EvolutionR> xskoulax: :)
[05:18] <BMP_> well if it does APM and ACPI, it's sure as heck turned off by default
[05:18] <BMP_> yeeouch, I coulda fried an egg
[05:18] <BMP_> well kiddos, I'm wandering myselfs off to bed
[05:18] <BMP_> long live ubuntu/macs/WhatHaveYou
[05:19] <randabis> take it easy BMP_
[05:25] <Bicchi> I am a mandrake user and would like to know the main focus of this distribution? I would like to install and OS with true 64 bit support and very stable too.
[05:25] <dr_willis> hmm...
[05:25] <dr_willis> the Ubuuntu guys seem to focus on security and a good gnome desktop.
[05:25] <Xenguy> Bicchi: tried ubuntulinux.org?  ;-)
[05:26] <EvolutionR> does anyone knows how to register a channel on freenode?
[05:26] <dr_willis> EvolutionR,  isent there a 'chanserv' bot ya talk to for that?
[05:26] <Bicchi> what if i want to use kde
[05:26] <dr_willis> Bicchi,  then you can install kde.
[05:26] <Xenguy> Bicchi: it's possible, but not the default desktop
[05:27] <EvolutionR> chanserv bout how??????????
[05:27] <Guardiann> EvolutionR ./cs register channame password escription of channel
[05:27] <Guardiann> without the .
[05:27] <EvolutionR> Guardiann thanks
[05:27] <Bicchi> when you mean posible, is is supported (kde)
[05:28] <dr_willis> this is linux - everything is possible
[05:28] <Xenguy> Bicchi: it's an installable option
[05:28] <dr_willis> and it pays to be your own support :P
[05:28] <Bicchi> would it run as good as gnome.
[05:28] <dr_willis> it runs as fine as kde runs on any other disrto
[05:28] <Lowry> later ppl
[05:28] <Lowry> thx
[05:28] <Xenguy> of course kde won't run as well as gnome...
[05:28] <dr_willis> you may notice some trivial differances. but who knows. :P one way to find out
[05:28] <Xenguy> ;-)
[05:28] <liquidboy> any idea how i can install grub from a live cd
[05:29] <TongMaster> bob2, ping
[05:29] <Bicchi> i am just looking for options to mandrake and so far i have considered gentoo, fedora, slackware. I saw this distro as a new comer to the arena and decided to find more about it.
[05:29] <dr_willis> grub has its own command shell thing ya can use. but a read of the grub docs would be in order.
[05:29] <dr_willis> Bicchi,  SUSE is very well done also.
[05:29] <dr_willis> it all depends on your needs really
[05:30] <Xenguy> Bicchi: newcomer yes, but remember it is based on Debian, which is way elderly/venerable
[05:30] <Bicchi> my main objective is to take advantage of my AMD64 machine and it seems that mandrake is not at its best.
[05:31] <dr_willis> Bicchi,  the amd64 support of all distors was lacking a few mo ago.. its getting better every month. :P
[05:31] <randabis> liquidboy http://www.desktop-linux.net/grub.html
[05:31] <Xenguy> Bicchi: someone here must know about Ubu and 64 (I really don't know about that issue)
[05:32] <liquidboy> randabis, looking...
[05:32] <dr_willis> i had good luck with suse's 64bit. less with mandrakes.
[05:32] <dr_willis> but that was a few months ago
[05:33] <Bicchi> i mean i know that a lot of programs need to be recompiled to the 64bit instructions plus the that supports it.
[05:33] <randabis> Ubuntu's 64bit is good as well so I've heard
[05:33] <liquidboy> randabis, 404 not found :(
[05:33] <dr_willis> not tried Ubuntu's 64 bit version yet.
[05:33] <randabis> liquidboy, probably my fault...one sec
[05:34] <liquidboy> randabis, its grub.htm, not html :P
[05:34] <randabis> ah
[05:34] <randabis> :)
[05:34] <liquidboy> will i be able to do this while on a live cd?
[05:34] <Bicchi> i read that this distro is updated every 6 months. is that true.
[05:34] <raydogg> what is the package name for the samba and ssh servers for ubuntu?
[05:34] <eyequeue> Bicchi:  yes
[05:34] <JDahl> I installed apache2 and libapache2-mod-php4 and restarted apache2, but my browser doesnt know what to do with .php scripts. Anyone got a helpful hint?
[05:34] <eyequeue> Bicchi:  release every 6m, daily development if you choose to run the devel branch
[05:34] <randabis> liquidboy, I don't see why not
[05:34] <eyequeue> raydogg:  ssh-server
[05:35] <eyequeue> raydogg:  and i don't do the other
[05:35] <raydogg> k
[05:35] <raydogg> thx
[05:35] <Bicchi> does ubuntu have some kind of updating system (like urpmi in mandrake.)
[05:35] <dr_willis> Bicchi,  its a debian variant - and thus uses the apt-get type system
[05:35] <eyequeue> Bicchi:  yes, synaptic is the gui app for it
[05:35] <dr_willis> well sort of a varient. :p
[05:35] <aardvark> Bicchi: debian based so uses apt
[05:35] <randabis> raydogg, samba, samba-common, and smbfs are needed for samba
[05:35] <liquidboy> randabis, i cant get root privelages while using the live cd, ...
[05:35] <Bicchi> does if supports rpm packages aswell?
[05:36] <dr_willis> "based" yea thats a good term.
[05:36] <aardvark> yes
[05:36] <dr_willis> Bicchi,  proberly anythiong you find in rpm format ya can find for apt format also.
[05:36] <aardvark> based I mean
[05:36] <randabis> liquidboy, hmm...there's a guide on www.ubuntuguide.org also that might be of some usage
[05:37] <randabis> I was just relaying info that gamecat told me to give you
[05:37] <Bicchi> well, thanks for all the help. i came to the forum with 10 question, left with 20 answers. ;-)
[05:38] <liquidboy> randabis, cant find it
[05:39] <JDahl> oops... syntax error in my .php test script :S
[05:40] <liquidboy> or can i find a way of changing the permissions of the usb hard drive?that would also work
[05:40] <randabis> liquidboy, I think its in the section on windows
[05:40] <randabis> you probably have to chroot into the drive not sure...
[05:41] <liquidboy> randabis, what does that involve?
[05:41] <randabis> might be better to make a grub boot disk
[05:41] <liquidboy> randabis, dont i need to be root for that?
[05:41] <stuNNed> dang, there is no ubuntu xmms skin? :-|
[05:42] <randabis> dunno..not experienced with liveCDs...sudo might work
[05:42] <liquidboy> k
[05:45] <syn-ack> Hey everyone.
[05:46] <liquidboy> randabis, sudo looks like its working
[05:46] <liquidboy>  sudo  mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy
[05:46] <liquidboy> mount: mount point /media/floppy does not exist
[05:46] <liquidboy> maybe its different cos im running from the cd
[05:47] <raydogg> mmm, there is no "service" so how do you restart stuff like ssh and samba ?
[05:47] <shock> n8 all
[05:47] <randabis> generally it would be
[05:47] <dr_willis> - /etc/init.d/sshd restart
[05:47] <randabis> /etc/init.d/sshd restart
[05:48] <randabis> /etc/init.d/samba restart (i think)
[05:48] <dr_willis> 'service' is like a script/command some other disrtos use that does that. :P
[05:48] <code> hello?
[05:48] <dr_willis> i think. lol
[05:48] <liquidboy> randabis, the floppy isnt turning up
[05:48] <raydogg> cool
[05:48] <raydogg> that worked
[05:48] <raydogg> thanks
[05:48] <liquidboy> it doesnt even know its there
[05:48] <dr_willis> Hello Code
[05:48] <raydogg> I think i will be able to get rid of mandrake all together :-)
[05:48] <randabis> dunno
[05:49] <code> hows it goin?
[05:49] <dr_willis> raydogg,  depends on your needs. Mandrake is very well done in many ways.
[05:49] <raydogg> not really, its very buggy
[05:49] <raydogg> 10.1 is anyway
[05:49] <raydogg> 10.0 was fine
[05:49] <dr_willis> some would say any odd# release is always buggy :P
[05:49] <dr_willis> lol
[05:49] <raydogg> and those type of problems always happen
[05:49] <raydogg> i'm tired of it
[05:49] <code> can anyone tell me how to d/l ymessenger?
[05:50] <dr_willis> you can get the official one from yahoo.com
[05:50] <code> it says i have to log in as root
[05:50] <code> how do i do that?
[05:50] <dr_willis> sudo whatevercommandyawanttoruin
[05:50] <dr_willis> iis the common way the ubuntu docs mention.
[05:51] <liquidboy> create directory `/floppy/boot/grub': No such file or directory
[05:51] <code> huh?
[05:51] <liquidboy> whats with that?
[05:51] <liquidboy> of course theres no such file or directory, thats why im making it!
[05:52] <dr_willis> sudo CommandYouWantToRunAsRoot
[05:52] <dr_willis> from a shell.
[05:52] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get install xpilot
[05:52] <dr_willis> for example
[05:52] <aardvark> sudo rm -rf *
[05:53] <LinkMasterSab> Hey guys, say I wanted to apply a command to a file tree
[05:53] <LinkMasterSab> What would I do?
[05:53] <code> who's sudo?
[05:53] <dr_willis> try 'man sudo'
[05:53] <Xenguy> oh jesus
[05:53] <dr_willis> super user do - :P
[05:53] <code> wtf?
[05:54] <LinkMasterSab> sudo is a man who lives on top of a mountain
[05:54] <LinkMasterSab> Now, someone help me ;o
[05:54] <Xenguy> LinkMasterSab: what are you trying to do?
[05:54] <dr_willis> wtf wtf? time to  do some reading I think.
[05:54] <aardvark> guys come on use the man pages
[05:54] <code> im confused
[05:55] <LinkMasterSab> I want to chmod all the files in a folder, recursing subfolders as well
[05:55] <dr_willis> 'sudo' is a COMMAND you type
[05:55] <Xenguy> aardvark: no kidding -- "just give me the answer - I don't want to learn or think for myself"
[05:55] <dr_willis> LinkMasterSab,  thers that -r or -R option I think for that.
[05:55] <LinkMasterSab> Oh, alright.
[05:55] <Xenguy> LinkMasterSab: which you would find if you took the time to read 'man chmod'
[05:55] <dr_willis> heh
[05:56] <dr_willis> -r is common on a lot of the shell commands
[05:56] <eyequeue> LinkMasterSab:  man chmod, the -R switch is what you'll find you want
[05:56] <dr_willis> or is it -R
[05:56] <dr_willis> i forgety. :P
[05:56] <aardvark> by using the MAN pages u will learn alot more
[05:56] <Xenguy> -R
[05:56] <Xenguy> in this case
[05:56] <eyequeue> LinkMasterSab: sudo chmod -R 000 / (don't really do that!)
[05:57] <dr_willis> lol
[05:57] <LinkMasterSab> Haha, evil.
[05:57] <dr_willis> 100 commands to NOT run under linux.
[05:57] <dr_willis> :P
[05:57] <Xenguy> heh
[05:57] <eyequeue> LinkMasterSab: but man pages protect you from blindly following bad advice given in irc
[05:57] <dr_willis> Hmm - that sounds like a good name/idea for a web site.
[05:57] <dr_willis> www.donttypethis.com
[05:57] <dr_willis> :P
[05:58] <chibifs> like sudo rm -rf /? :D
[05:58] <Xenguy> LinkMasterSab: yeah, think of us as Evil Twins :P
[05:59] <dr_willis> The Evil Olsen Twins!
[05:59] <LinkMasterSab> so "sudo chmod -R aw+ ~/projects/wrath" will give write permissions to all files recursively in ~/projects/wrath?
[05:59] <eyequeue> a+w
[05:59] <LinkMasterSab> Okay.
[06:00] <Xenguy> LinkMasterSab: there ya go
[06:00] <tritium> What is project Wrath?
[06:00] <eyequeue> tritium:  something we call all write to now, heh
[06:00] <tritium> heh
[06:00] <LinkMasterSab> A MUD project my friend is running.
[06:01] <tritium> LinkMasterSab, I'm glad it's not an evil plot or anything like that...
[06:01] <LinkMasterSab> Hehe.
[06:01] <eyequeue> tritium:  you've been aiding and abetting him, lol
[06:01] <tritium> heh
[06:02] <aardvark> ping
[06:02] <LinkMasterSab> Now I shall destroy Linux from the interweb
[06:03] <stoicheia> I just completed the installation of Ubuntu Hoary for PowerPC on a PowerBook G4 Titanium and cannot change the screen resolution from the default 640X480 no other options are available in the dialog box.
[06:04] <tritium> stoicheia, ATI Rage 128?
[06:05] <stoicheia> tritium - actually ATI Rage M6 with 16MB of VRAM
[06:07] <tritium> stoicheia, you probably don't have proper HorizSync and VertRefresh values in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:08] <tritium> stoicheia, what does "sudo ddcprobe" report?
[06:09] <tritium> you may not need to use sudo for that
[06:09] <Xirdneh> hi there...
[06:09] <eyequeue> $ ddcprobe
[06:09] <eyequeue> open /dev/mem: Permission denied
[06:09] <stoicheia> tritium - boot up now, just a sec
[06:09] <Xirdneh> im new at this, and im stuck in the partition part in the instalation of ubuntu, can anyone help me?
[06:10] <eyequeue> Xirdneh:  stuck in what way?
[06:10] <Xirdneh> i have already made the partitions with partition magic, nad i left a 6.3 GB space forubuntu, but now the partition that the installer have doesnt let me do anything with that space
[06:10] <Xirdneh> it just show me the dirrections of free spaceit has
[06:13] <Xirdneh> any ideas?
[06:13] <eyequeue> Xirdneh:  when you press enter on that 6.3 partition, do you get some options?
[06:13] <stoicheia> tritium - have to check back LTR reboot just failed THX
[06:13] <Xirdneh> just one, SHOW SECTOR INFORMATION
[06:14] <eyequeue> Xirdneh:  there may be a "do not use" that you'll want to toggle first
[06:14] <Xirdneh> do i need to give that partition a specific format?
[06:14] <Xirdneh> do not use?, dont get it
[06:14] <eyequeue> Xirdneh:  is this warty?
[06:14] <Xirdneh> youp
[06:15] <eyequeue> Xirdneh:  typically, formatting as ext3 is common these days
[06:15] <eyequeue> Xirdneh:  there may be a "do not use" that you'll want to toggle first <-- if it doesn't say that, that is fine :)
[06:16] <Xirdneh> kewl, so maybe i should give another kind of format to that partition
[06:16] <eyequeue> Xirdneh:  example of what will work: format it as ext3, orverwriting anything there, and mount it on mount point "/"
[06:17] <Xirdneh> yea i have no problem understanding that, theproblem is that the partition software wont let me moun point on it, lol
[06:19] <eyequeue> Xirdneh:  it seems that yuo may have some other installer than i'm used to?
[06:19] <eyequeue> Xirdneh:  are you running this partitioner inside the installer, or is this an app you are running externally?
[06:19] <__learner__> I have a sempron processor, should I install the k7 kernell? Will it work?
[06:19] <Xirdneh> nope, i put the ubuntu disc in to my lap and after it recognize my hardware this appear, disk partition, configuire RAID software, etc...
[06:19] <eyequeue> Xirdneh:  funny, the cd i have has the option to specify mount point, in its partitioner frontend
[06:20] <rapala61> hi all, just a quick question... my CPU is a 2500+ its supposed to consume 1.65v default... but im looking at my sensors and it drops down to 1.62 while compiling kernel.. and im looking at a lot of warnings on the compile... any connection????
[06:20] <thread> rapala61: no
[06:20] <Xirdneh> this jst say, configuire RAID software... CONFIGURE logic volumes... Partition wizard... Partition help... and a list of partitions that are already made in my HD
[06:20] <wizard_2> ?
[06:21] <eyequeue> Xirdneh:  did partition help help any?
[06:21] <wizard_2> I think my irc client is broken
[06:21] <rapala61> thread, so the drop doesnt affect compiles??  how low can it go before it affects?
[06:22] <thread> rapala61: your proc will either work or not work. if it doesn't work, compiles would FAIL. warnings arise from the code, not your hw performance
[06:22] <__learner__> do you know if the k7 kernell regognize sempron processors?
[06:22] <Xirdneh> nope it just say what i need todo, that allready know... well let me give it another format and i think that will work, if dont, then damn, c ya tomorrow, thanx for the help anyway
[06:22] <sprout> any windows/ubuntu dual boot experts in here?
[06:23] <__learner__> I using dual boot. But am no expert...
[06:23] <rellik> what do I need to install to get linux to be aware of computer's samba names?
[06:23] <eyequeue> sprout:  ask, maybe someone will know
[06:23] <sprout> I partitioned my disk, partition 0, physical, winxp
[06:24] <sprout> partition 5 logical, linux swap
[06:24] <rapala61> thanks..  so i guess i can safely overclock the pc w/o affecting future compiles
[06:24] <sprout> partition 6 logical, ext3
[06:24] <sprout> partition 7 logical, ext3
[06:24] <sprout> partition 8 logical, ext3
[06:24] <sprout> installed ubuntu to partition6
[06:24] <sprout> installed grub
[06:24] <sprout> reboot
[06:24] <thread> rapala61: as I said, if it doesn't work (which might happen if you oc your proc) compiles will BOMB OUT
[06:25] <thread> rapala61: that qualifies as "affecting future compiles"
[06:25] <sprout> i get theses messages about PXE netboot, which fail, and then it says disk boot failure, insert system disk
[06:25] <eyequeue> sprout:  in grub, /dev/hda6 is called 0,5
[06:25] <thread> rapala61: but that's not to say you might not have problems if you oc
[06:25] <vir--> hi, which package is xorgcfg included in? im running hoary..
[06:25] <eyequeue> sprout:  could that be your error?
[06:25] <randabis-laptop> spout you installed grub to your MBR right? (hd0)
[06:26] <sprout> well, the installer just asked me to install grub to the mbr, so i said yes.
[06:26] <randabis-laptop> ok
[06:26] <wizard_2> hello, I was mentioned, but I couldn't read anything
[06:26] <randabis-laptop> check your boot order in the bios
[06:26] <rapala61> thread, ok... i think im playing this one safe... this is my 5th installation and i cant afford not sleeping 3 days on a row so.. thanks
[06:26] <sprout> boot order is cdrom, hard disk, nothing, nothing
[06:27] <randabis-laptop> hmm
[06:27] <thread> rapala61: haha nice :) good luck
[06:27] <sprout> i guess I could try killing all the linux partitions and just see if I can get it to boot.
[06:28] <randabis-laptop> are you only using one hard drive? PATA or SATA?
[06:28] <sprout> 1 drive 74G raptor, sata
[06:28] <rapala61> thread, thx !
[06:29] <rellik> anyone know of a program that will scan my network for netbios names so I can 'ping <name>' instead of 'ping <ip>' ?
[06:29] <randabis-laptop> that could be your problem...possibly the SATA isn't booting
[06:29] <sprout> any idea how I could verify that's the problem?
[06:29] <MacPlusG3> rellik: you're confusing things. ping is for TCP/IP (i.e. ip addresses) or names resolved via DNS. NetBIOS is some windows thing.
[06:30] <MacPlusG3> rellik: although smbclient et al may be able to help you do what you want.
[06:30] <randabis-laptop> unfortunately I don't know :/ I only have PATA drives
[06:31] <rellik> MacPlusG3, netbios is a protocol that associates strings (names) with cmoputers...  yes, it is a windows thing.. (I'm doing some work with SMB)...  even so, I want to be able to ping a netbios name
[06:31] <eyequeue> rellik:  do you have samba-things installed on your ubuntu box?
[06:31] <sprout> it shows the drives as scsi, so I assume that's the sata
[06:31] <rellik> eyequeue, yeah, so that's why I don't get why netbios isn't working :(
[06:31] <bitfoo> sup boyzzzzzzzzz
[06:32] <MacPlusG3> rellik: you will want to use one of the samba/smb client utilities to find the ip address (or maybe they have a ping type functionality in them too..)
[06:32] <eyequeue> rellik:  i've never touched samba here, but from what someone mentioned earlier, a start might be: sudo apt-get install samba samba-common smbclient
[06:32] <rellik> eyequeue, I have to 'smbmount -o ip=<ip> //<name>/share'  ...  it is *really* annoying that smb isn't automatically taking care of this
[06:32] <randabis-laptop> smbfs too
[06:33] <MacPlusG3> rellik: it should. you probably have something wrong with your network then
[06:33] <rellik> yeah, I have all the smb stuff installed
[06:33] <eyequeue> rellik:  okay, i'm of no further help to you in this then
[06:33] <MacPlusG3> rellik: windows has been known to just confuse itself really badly
[06:33] <MacPlusG3> rellik: what machines do you have on the network?
[06:33] <eyequeue> rellik:  luck
[06:34] <rellik> any idea if netbios advertises using broadcasts?  that would explain why I'm not getting anything (I'm on a big network, with the broadcast domains broken up
[06:34] <randabis-laptop> maybe there is a way to add the samba shares to fstab...not sure
[06:34] <randabis-laptop> I use nfs
[06:34] <rellik> MacPlusG3, it's a school network..  so there're a ton of machines
[06:34] <jdub> rellik: what you need is a netbios resolver for nsswitch
[06:35] <MacPlusG3> rellik: you may have a WINS server. that could solve some of your problems
[06:35] <eyequeue> hmm, is there a good HOWTO for smb-on-linux issues?
[06:36] <randabis-laptop> possibly...I know ubuntuguide has some info on samba
[06:37] <eyequeue> i'm thinking like the Mail-Administrator-HOWTO, something that doesn't presume you know the difference between an MUA and MTA, but smb-speak
[06:38] <eyequeue> it doesn't scratch a personal itch of mine, but i'd refer people to it if i knew it was appropriate
[06:38] <rellik> MacPlusG3, you may be right...  I'll look into the WINS server...  I found a program (nbtscan) that will scan an ip or range for netbios info...  but it doesn't add it to the hosts file or anything..  is it possible to have two hosts files?
[06:39] <Amaranth> jdub: you were on lugradio?
[06:39] <eyequeue> rellik:  you can have hosts.small and hosts.large, but only one is active at a time, /etc/hosts (sudo cp hosts.large /etc/hosts, to make that one active, for example)
[06:40] <jdub> Amaranth: yeah
[06:40] <Amaranth> jdub: Cool. If I wasn't on dialup from hell I'd listen.
[06:41] <Soap_On_A_Roap> anyone know any cool Desktop snazzy uppers, I don't care what they do, as lonmg as you think they're cool
[06:41] <Soap_On_A_Roap> I have Gdesklets already
[06:42] <froust> rellik: AFAIk, netbios communicates via broadcast
[06:42] <syn-ack> it does.
[06:42] <syn-ack> Thats how it "assigns" IPs
[06:43] <jdub> rellik: look at winbind
[06:44] <jdub> rellik: it includes an nss module that may help
[06:50] <randabis-laptop> Soap_On_A_Roap, There's SuperKaramba, but it's mainly for KDE..not sure how well it would work with gnome, if at all
[06:51] <geppy|away> How do you make a brochure in oo.org?
[06:54] <bitfoo> hmm
[06:54] <bitfoo> yo why does my firefox crash whenever I click on an email link
[06:54] <bitfoo> and why does thunderbird not automagically open :|
[06:54] <geppy> Because mailto: sucks?
[06:54] <geppy> do you have it set to open thunderbird/
[06:55] <geppy> The Ubuntu Firefox build probably defaults to Evolution.
[06:55] <geppy> Are you running Hoary?
[06:55] <geppy> Firefox is being incredibly slow for me in Hoary.
[06:55] <bitfoo> im running warty
[06:55] <geppy> Oh.
[06:55] <bitfoo> and i dont know how to set it to open thunderbird
[06:55] <bitfoo> :|
[06:56] <bitfoo> and also i dont know if mailto sucks :|
[06:56] <geppy> haha
[06:56] <bitfoo> and i also dont have evolution :|
[06:56] <randabis-laptop> I perfer galeon in linux
[06:56] <randabis-laptop> firefox is good for windows though
[06:56] <bitfoo> yes yes, we have all our preferences
[06:56] <bitfoo> how do i fix it though :|
[06:57] <randabis-laptop> probably in firefox preferences somewhere
[06:57] <geppy> I'm looking in about:config
[06:57] <bitfoo> ahh
[06:57] <bitfoo> about:config
[06:57] <bitfoo> of course!
[06:58] <geppy> network.protocol-handler.external.mailto
[06:59] <geppy> Set that to false, and it should default to thunderbird.
[07:00] <geppy> Something that makes sense, but still drives me crazy...
[07:00] <bitfoo> actually no
[07:00] <geppy> oh, sorry
[07:00] <bitfoo> that just hides all mailto:
[07:00] <geppy> try google?
[07:00] <geppy> oh
[07:00] <bitfoo> i was lik lol
[07:00] <geppy> heh
[07:01] <geppy> when you type in a bad domain, firefox searches for it and uses google's first result... the first result for anything starting with 'http:://" is MS.com.  Argh, pet peeve.
[07:02] <geppy> bitfoo?
[07:02] <geppy> Desktop>Preferences>Preferred Applications
[07:03] <geppy> "Mail Reader"
[07:03] <geppy> Brochures in oo.org, anybody?
[07:03] <bitfoo> no no
[07:03] <bitfoo> i found :|
[07:03] <bitfoo> more complicated than that :
[07:03] <geppy> heh
[07:03] <bitfoo> http://opensource.weblogsinc.com/entry/7672458579278871/
[07:04] <geppy> heh
[07:04] <geppy> Brochures in oo.org, anybody?
[07:05] <bitfoo> dunno :((((((((((
[07:06] <Pluk> bitfoo, in about:config add a new string network.protocol-handler.app.mailto
[07:06] <Pluk> and as value: mozilla-thunderbird
[07:06] <regeya> whee
[07:06] <geppy> this sucks
[07:06] <Amaranth> or redefine the sensible-whatever symlink
[07:07] <regeya> I guess nobody does DTP in an office suite (hooray!)
[07:07] <geppy> DTP?
[07:07] <regeya> desktop publishing
[07:07] <geppy> heh
[07:07] <bitfoo> :O
[07:07] <geppy> I don't exactly have time to figure latex out before this is due. =)
[07:08] <regeya> gah, the next person who hands me a FLOPPY DISK with a WORD DOCUMENT on it and calls it a CAMERA-READY AD will DIE A SLOW AND PAINFUL DEATH.
[07:08] <geppy> hahahahahahaha
[07:08] <regeya> sorry.
[07:08] <regeya> pent-up anger from work.
[07:08] <regeya> pay it no mind.
[07:08] <geppy> Argh, I think I might just do this brochure on Word during CompSCi tomorrow.
[07:08] <regeya> hell, if people would use OO.o, they could even submit PDFs, no problem.
[07:09] <geppy> heh
[07:09] <steve> does anyone know for sure if I can install office for windows thru wine on my laptop. I need some of the functionality for my math class
[07:09] <geppy> Yeah.
[07:09] <regeya> well, when you say 'brochure' whta do you mean?
[07:09] <regeya> what even
[07:09] <geppy> Steve: yes
[07:09] <steve> you can?
[07:09] <geppy> regeya:  A brochure, like a leaflet.  A tri-fold information booklet.
[07:09] <regeya> how evil
[07:09] <regeya> oh, well, hm...
[07:09] <geppy> Steve: yes.  What functionality do you need?
[07:09] <steve> the solver
[07:10] <steve> for my statistics class
[07:10] <geppy> Steve:  Not familiar.  Yeah, Word should work in WINE.
[07:10] <steve> it is in excell
[07:10] <geppy> oh
[07:10] <geppy> no wonder
[07:10] <steve> It is not a fun class, graphs and stuff
[07:10] <geppy> heh
[07:10] <geppy> Ouch.
[07:10] <neighborlee> geppy, prob.not...bettter in a desktop publishing app like scribus
[07:10] <steve> this is my last semester of school
[07:10] <steve> I graduate in march
[07:11] <steve> Bs in Project Management
[07:11] <geppy> neighborlee:  I'll apt-get try it out.
[07:11] <geppy> haha
[07:11] <regeya> honestly, geppy, if you have any experience with a frame-type DTP package, give scribus a go, as neighborlee says
[07:11] <geppy> Alright.
[07:11] <regeya> it's quite good
[07:11] <bitfoo> you can get a degree in project management?
[07:11] <geppy> Why does oo.org suck so much?  Is it just because it used to be a commercial monstrosity?
[07:11] <steve> geppy, do you know if k3b will copy encrypted dvds
[07:11] <regeya> you might want to ad the ubuntu-bp repo to your sources.list, unless you're bleeding-edge hoary user
[07:12] <regeya> iirc backports has a newer scribus version
[07:12] <geppy> steve:  You'll need to use transcoding, methinks.
[07:12] <steve> trasncoding?
[07:12] <geppy> regeya:  I'm using Hoary, atm.
[07:12] <steve> school me
[07:12] <regeya> geppy, it's an office suite
[07:12] <geppy> Steve:  transcode is a dvd-ripper
[07:12] <steve> okay, is it a package
[07:12] <geppy> steve: yes
[07:12] <steve> cool
[07:12] <steve> I will have to make that happen
[07:12] <regeya> just as I tell my boss when he uses an Excel spreadsheet for memo-writing purposes, you need to use the right tool. :-)
[07:13] <geppy> regeya:  My point exactly.  Why should it be such a resource hog?  All that it does is edit text!  vi doesn't hog my memory!
[07:13] <steve> yeap
[07:13] <geppy> hahahahahaha
[07:13] <bitfoo> isnt there like a publisher clone for OO
[07:13] <geppy> publisher clone?
[07:13] <bitfoo> yeah
[07:13] <geppy> Like, star office?
[07:13] <bitfoo> MS Publisher
[07:13] <geppy> oh
[07:13] <bitfoo> makes brochures and crap
[07:13] <geppy> I'm not familiar with most of the MS suite
[07:14] <regeya> good gravy, what has happened to the graphics in penguin-command
[07:14] <regeya> dammit, I sent that guy PNGs
[07:14] <regeya> (in 1999 or something)
[07:14] <geppy> hahaha
[07:14] <geppy> wtf makes oo such a beast?
[07:14] <regeya> it was a bigass monolithic app at one point
[07:14] <geppy> regeya:  Understood, but hasn't it had years of open-source development to help with that?
[07:15] <regeya> they're working on it, but it's still a cross-platform app, which means that just using gtk would be stupid
[07:15] <geppy> heh
[07:15] <regeya> geppy: it's not as bad as it used to be, believe it or not
[07:15] <bitfoo> geppy
[07:15] <geppy> GTK is cross-platform "enough"
[07:15] <bitfoo> you can speed it up :|
[07:15] <geppy> bitfoo:  How so?
[07:15] <regeya> geppy, it could be worse.  they could port it over to mozilla.
[07:15] <bitfoo> there is some tweak on ubuntuforums.org
[07:15] <bitfoo> somewhere
[07:15] <geppy> regeya:  haha
[07:15] <steve> geppy, I just tried to install the program and some of the deps' wont install. Oh well, I will see if it will work without that app. I have dvddcss
[07:15] <geppy> bitfoo:  What good is a tweak that they don't package?
[07:15] <bitfoo> in oo
[07:15] <geppy> steve: Alright.
[07:16] <regeya> 'the entire interface is xml isn't that cool?'
[07:16] <bitfoo> tools > options > memory
[07:16] <steve> what are you running linux on geppy
[07:16] <geppy> bitfoo:  What I'm saying is, what good is a speed tweak to the ed user, if they don't package it?
[07:16] <bitfoo> graphics cache use for open office.org make it like 30 mb and dorp memory per object to 2
[07:16] <bitfoo> :|
[07:16] <geppy> steve:  specs?  Athlon XP 2500+, gig and a half of RAM
[07:16] <MBA> hi
[07:16] <steve> nice
[07:16] <MBA> was a new website selected?
[07:16] <MBA> contest ended today
[07:17] <steve> i am running mine on a toshiba 17in 3.0p4
[07:17] <bitfoo> oh it did? :|
[07:17] <steve> dvd +/-
[07:17] <steve> laptop
[07:17] <geppy> Steve: ah, cool.  How's the hardware support?
[07:17] <bitfoo> im running on asus m6bne :|
[07:17] <steve> awesome with ubuntu
[07:17] <geppy> bitfoo:  Ouch.
[07:17] <MBA> time warner center rocks
[07:17] <bitfoo> ouch?
[07:17] <MBA> fiber to the apartment :)
[07:17] <steve> the only issue is the vid driver. got to tweak
[07:17] <MBA> only 2.75 mil for a 2 bedroom!
[07:17] <MBA> with fiber :)
[07:18] <steve> this moflappy smokes in linux
[07:18] <geppy> bitfoo:  Sorry, is it nice?  The only pre-built desktops that I've ever used have been crap.
[07:18] <MBA> i was put on a waiting list
[07:18] <bitfoo> its laptop :O
[07:18] <MBA> they are sold out of the smallest 2 bedroom
[07:18] <geppy> steve: haha
[07:18] <MBA> alala
[07:18] <geppy> bitfoo:  Oh, Asus makes nice laptops.
[07:18] <bitfoo> its nice
[07:18] <bitfoo> except they gayed up the bios
[07:18] <steve> I reallly like this distro
[07:18] <bitfoo> so acpi cant work right :|
[07:18] <regeya> oooqs-kde helps on launch time, but that requires a.) kde libs and b.) that you have OOo running all the time to help
[07:18] <steve> the best I have ever tried
[07:18] <geppy> I think all of us do. =)
[07:19] <steve> even ACPI workds
[07:19] <steve> works
[07:19] <bitfoo> mine half works
[07:19] <steve> out of the box
[07:19] <bitfoo> it knows when its on battery and when its plugged in
[07:19] <geppy> regeya:  I really don't have trouble with OO.org on this machine, but it's a serious problem on my dad's PIII, or my old PI.
[07:19] <bitfoo> thats it :/
[07:19] <regeya> PI!  yikes.
[07:19] <steve> my only issue I would say is getting it to hibernate
[07:19] <bitfoo> my battery always says 0% and suspend to anything will crash meh ubuntu :|
[07:19] <regeya> ever thought of using abiword and gnumeric? ;-)
[07:19] <geppy> regeya:  haha... don't be hateful, it was my old "1337 gaming machine"
[07:19] <geppy> =)
[07:19] <steve> really, sory to hear that
[07:20] <geppy> hahaha
[07:20] <geppy> regeya:  no, not really
[07:20] <regeya> they're not that bad, really.
[07:20] <regeya> oboy, a trekkie.
[07:20] <steve> anyone get the network manager to work properly
[07:20] <LordKahless> hey someone think they could help me? i just installed ubuntu, when i loaded into gnome, i dont have that one computer menu that i get with gnome LOL
[07:20] <LordKahless> anyone know how i could create it? :)
[07:21] <LordKahless> lol GeneralKang
[07:21] <geppy> regeya:  Are they MS clones?  I'm convincing the school techie teacher to put OO.org on all of the school machines... I doubt that she'd put an unfamiliar interface on.
[07:21] <steve> I installed it last night and after I restarted, it would not go on the web
[07:21] <regeya> OOo would be a better choice for a MS house
[07:21] <geppy> LordKahless: Add to Panel> Main Menu
[07:21] <regeya> abiword isnt' that different, but they might find it lacking
[07:21] <geppy> regeya:  That's what I was thinking.
[07:22] <steve> anyone using network manager
[07:22] <geppy> Is abiword a win-app, as well?
[07:22] <LordKahless> oh wow, thanks
[07:22] <steve> for laptops
[07:22] <regeya> geppy: I've managed to get the XP machines at work running OOo and Firefox, so that's a start I suppose
[07:22] <geppy> regeya:  heh, cool
[07:22] <regeya> geppy: be prepared to answer questions for the hardk0re MS Office users, though
[07:22] <geppy> regeya:  I was thinking about trying to switch her over to Linux, but then I'd have to set up FlashMX through WINE, or something
[07:23] <bitfoo> steve: i use netapplet
[07:23] <bitfoo> from debian distro :|
[07:23] <geppy> regeya:  hardcore?  This is high school, no one knows how the hell to use a computer. =)
[07:23] <regeya> there are times you'll run into wild differences between OOo and MS
[07:23] <regeya> hahaha
[07:23] <LordKahless> hey geppy, i did that but it puts it on the panel, i want to get an icon for it on the desktop
[07:23] <regeya> good point
[07:23] <steve> okay, do you have problems with it, geppy
[07:23] <regeya> sorry
[07:23] <geppy> Luckily, this is my last semester, hence my lack of working to fix everything.
[07:23] <LordKahless> it wont let me move it heh
[07:23] <steve> that is actually what I installed last night
[07:23] <bitfoo> steve: looks like this http://tech9.net/rml/log/2004082401
[07:23] <bitfoo> :|
[07:23] <steve> it is listed as other right
[07:23] <geppy> LordKahless:  Why would you put the gnome menu on the desktop?
[07:23] <geppy> steve: what?
[07:23] <steve> on the screen
[07:24] <bitfoo> what?
[07:24] <steve> I restarted and it would not let me route my IP
[07:24] <LordKahless> oh no, not the gnome menu, when u go to add, i want the icon that says "disks"
[07:24] <geppy> steve:  What are you asking if I have trouble with?
[07:24] <steve> netapplet
[07:24] <bitfoo> what?
[07:24] <geppy> LordKahless:  Then drag it to the desktop.
[07:24] <geppy> LordKahless:  drag-and-drop
[07:24] <LordKahless> it wont work
[07:24] <LordKahless> i tried that
[07:24] <steve> it really messed my system up
[07:24] <regeya> headbutt it
[07:24] <steve> after I restarted
[07:25] <steve> I will suffer for a while till something else comes out
[07:25] <ever34> Trying to install on Dell Inspiron 3500 laptop. After "Scanning CD-ROM", it hangs. Runs Live CD OK (with linux nodma) though.
[07:25] <steve> I heard march will be a new ubuntu distro
[07:25] <geppy> LordKahless:  Try again.  Click to open the menu, then click and drag the disks icon
[07:26] <geppy> Steve: they release every six months
[07:26] <geppy> argh, this is a waste of time, I'm never going to get this brochure started
[07:26] <geppy> high school sucks
[07:26] <LordKahless> all it does is kinda... float back to the menu
[07:26] <steve> true, I am not sure when the last one was, I just heard it from someone
[07:26] <geppy> LordKahless:  Works fine for me.
[07:26] <LordKahless> that doesnt help
[07:26] <bitfoo> ever34, maybe the image is bad?
[07:27] <bitfoo> or maybe you have to pass it something at boot :|
[07:27] <ever34> Ran the full MD5SUM check.
[07:27] <steve> so has anyone else had any experience with net applet
[07:27] <bitfoo> me
[07:27] <steve> I just wanted to gauge my test with it
[07:27] <ever34> Yah, been trying boot params. I'm sure I need nodma, and tried several others.
[07:27] <steve> and see if it was only me
[07:27] <bitfoo> i use it and i think ficus planet does
[07:28] <steve> I know ficus
[07:28] <bitfoo> you need like 3 files from deb repository to make it work :|
[07:28] <steve> He helped me out last night
[07:28] <steve> true, it just mad my system go crazy
[07:29] <steve> after it was installed and restarted. I could no longer route my IP properly
[07:29] <steve> alas, I could not go on the internet
[07:29] <steve> It was terrible
[07:29] <steve> I saved my /home and just reinstalled
[07:29] <bitfoo> that is drastic :|
[07:30] <steve> had no choice. My linux genius friend could not figure it out.
[07:30] <steve> We spent like 4 hours trying to figure it out
[07:30] <steve> I just dealt with it and got my system back up today
[07:30] <steve> no loss of data
[07:31] <bitfoo> plz :/
[07:31] <jrnicl2> anyone cold tell me where to find ubuntu's software to download?
[07:31] <bitfoo> i consider loss of linux configurations loss of data :|
[07:31] <jrnicl2> anyone could tell me where to find ubuntu's software to download?
[07:31] <bitfoo> like what :O
[07:31] <steve> that would be true
[07:31] <bitfoo> like games and programs or actual ubuntu jrnicl2
[07:31] <jrnicl2> yes, games and programs
[07:31] <steve> why not do it through the sources
[07:32] <jrnicl2> I'm new to it
[07:32] <steve> okay
[07:32] <bitfoo> if you click on Computer > System Configuration > Synaptic
[07:32] <jrnicl2> I was using fedora
[07:32] <steve> I am sure these smart guys can walk you through it
[07:32] <jrnicl2> ok
[07:32] <bitfoo> you will see a list of all the programs you can install :|
[07:32] <steve> this is way better than fedora
[07:32] <steve> much easier
[07:32] <steve> I have used them both
[07:32] <cowbud> wtf is a good graphical diff util someone was raging about it on planet gnome the other day now I forgot!
[07:33] <jrnicl2> thanks Steve
[07:33] <steve> no problem
[07:33] <steve> I love coming here to help and be helped
[07:33] <bitfoo> or if you open a terminal, type sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list and then uncomment the two mentioned lines so you add universe repository
[07:33] <rempresent> ok, a question real fast, i have unzipped an application, and did ./configure, make, and then make install, what do i do after that??
[07:33] <bitfoo> and then sudo apt-get update
[07:33] <bitfoo> then go to synaptic and you have 10k more programs :|
[07:33] <steve> yeap
[07:33] <bitfoo> you run the program rempresent :|
[07:34] <rt> I'm getting an odd message while trying to install warty.
[07:34] <rempresent> bitfoo:  thanks
[07:35] <steve> does anyone know of good program to back up my linux
[07:35] <steve> just curious
[07:35] <rt> cdrom md5 sums ok, but linux-i386 fails
[07:35] <steve> just in case
[07:36] <zenrox> steve,  learn how to use tar
[07:36] <zenrox> and cp
[07:36] <steve> thanks
[07:36] <cowbud> ahh meld
[07:36] <rt> broken packages
[07:36] <steve> I actually am getting pretty good at untarring
[07:36] <zenrox> tar it up and cp it to another hdd
[07:36] <steve> cool
[07:36] <zenrox> or remote pc
[07:37] <steve> you know that is a good idea. I am about to make my old cpu a network
[07:37] <steve> you know like a file server
[07:38] <zenrox> i have one
[07:38] <steve> cool
[07:38] <steve> how big
[07:38] <zenrox> and its headless too
[07:38] <zenrox> 700mhz 64megs of ram 2 15gig hdds and 1 20 gig
[07:38] <zenrox> has ubuntu on it too
[07:38] <steve> this one will be like a 400mhz with a 30 gig
[07:38] <steve> just good enough to do what I need
[07:38] <zenrox> yep
[07:39] <steve> I am wireless and that will be awesome for when I am at school
[07:39] <bitfoo> i want a file server the size of a cd spindle :|
[07:39] <zenrox> i even let it install x so i can get a gdm login if i need a gui
[07:39] <steve> that would be nice bitfoo
[07:39] <zenrox> bitfoo,  get moding
[07:39] <zenrox> lol
[07:39] <bitfoo> ok
[07:39] <bitfoo> bankroll me :|
[07:39] <steve> truly
[07:39] <zenrox> lol
[07:40] <bitfoo> ;] 
[07:40] <steve> I think I might be me an ibook as well this year
[07:40] <steve> it has unix. that is good enough for me
[07:40] <zenrox> ya but ubuntu can install in thoes
[07:40] <zenrox> too
[07:40] <steve> I forgot, true
[07:41] <steve> maybe virtual pc or something
[07:41] <steve> be slow though
[07:41] <zenrox> naw it can install on it as a full os
[07:41] <zenrox> just get the ppc ver of ubuntu
[07:41] <steve> wonder how the hardware would match up
[07:41] <steve> again you are right
[07:42] <steve> I really am glad that they came out with synaptic manager
[07:42] <steve> makes life so much easier with deps
[07:42] <zenrox> yep
[07:43] <steve> where ya from zenrox
[07:43] <zenrox> usa
[07:43] <bzbb> which version of debian is closest to warty?
[07:43] <steve> okay, good call, where
[07:43] <zenrox> washington
[07:43] <zenrox> state
[07:43] <bitfoo> bzbb i think sid
[07:43] <steve> I am on co
[07:43] <steve> springs
[07:43] <zenrox> kewl
[07:44] <steve> got snow
[07:44] <bzbb> so, the opera software package for sid would be my best bet?
[07:44] <zenrox> not any more here
[07:44] <steve> ours melted today
[07:44] <zenrox> ours melted 1week ago
[07:44] <steve> nice
[07:44] <steve> we are expected to get more tomorrow
[07:45] <bitfoo> there is no opera version in universe or multiverse?
[07:45] <zenrox> and we got our first major snow 4 weeks ago
[07:45] <steve> I like snow, just not working in it
[07:45] <zenrox> me neather
[07:45] <bitfoo> nope i guess not :O
[07:45] <steve> what ya do for a living
[07:46] <zenrox> nothen
[07:46] <steve> I work for our uncle,....Sam
[07:46] <bitfoo> bzbb  try sid version
[07:46] <zenrox> i am retired at 26
[07:46] <bitfoo> maybe it works :|
[07:46] <steve> must be nice
[07:46] <zenrox> ya ssa pays me 621 amonth to be crazy
[07:46] <steve> that works too
[07:47] <d> hi!
[07:47] <zenrox> and i have highspeed inet
[07:47] <steve> same here
[07:47] <zenrox> lol
[07:47] <zenrox> 768k/128k
[07:47] <steve> we have adelphia here
[07:47] <zenrox> adsl
[07:47] <bitfoo> wtf retired at 26 :|
[07:47] <zenrox> vz
[07:47] <steve> cable
[07:47] <steve> he works hard for his money
[07:47] <steve> old eighties song
[07:47] <zenrox> bitfoo,  i told the gov i was crazy and thay agreed with me
[07:47] <bitfoo> dude how do you live on 621 a month :|
[07:48] <zenrox> creative accounting
[07:48] <steve> that and top ramen
[07:48] <zenrox> hehehe
[07:48] <XIrdneh> HI THERE, can anyone help me recognising this  Dell Wireless 1450 DualBand (802.11a/b/g) Internal Wireless... is not working :(
[07:48] <bitfoo> thats my rent right there :|
[07:48] <zenrox> 350 a month in rent
[07:48] <bitfoo> xirdneh i think that is an atheros chipset
[07:48] <d> ok- I've got a web page with a bunch of links to some isos. What prog can I use to set these all downloading whilst I'm at work?
[07:48] <steve> I assumed you probedit
[07:48] <zenrox> and elect 45 bucks ever 2 months
[07:49] <steve> xi, did you probe it
[07:49] <XIrdneh> bitfoo, yea someone told me, sorry for my ignorancy but i still dont know what to do
[07:49] <bitfoo> hold up im googling o_O
[07:49] <steve> bitfoo it is on you
[07:50] <steve> xi, you can do iwconfig
[07:50] <d> anyone know of a download manager or summat?
[07:50] <d> kget doesn't seem to work
[07:50] <steve> there should be one in mozilla
[07:50] <steve> okay
[07:50] <d> steve: moz or firefox?
[07:50] <Seminole> Yeah, Mozilla Extension "Downloadtehmall"
[07:51] <zenrox> Firefox
[07:51] <XIrdneh> steve, let me try
[07:51] <steve> I have both, I think it is firefox
[07:51] <zenrox> you can get one for eather or
[07:51] <steve> do you know the commands
[07:51] <d> steve: me? command for firefox? no
[07:51] <steve> no, for XI
[07:51] <d> ok
[07:52] <steve> he is trying to get his card to work on wifi
[07:52] <_4strO> yop yop
[07:52] <bitfoo> XIrdneh, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5464&highlight=ndiswrapper
[07:52] <bitfoo> that is for dell true mobile wireless g
[07:52] <bitfoo> so maybe similar, but it looks like you have to use ndiswrapper for both :|
[07:52] <steve> nice of you to do the research my man
[07:53] <XIrdneh> thanx a lot bitfoo, ow you one
[07:53] <zenrox> XIrdneh,  just come back and give back
[07:54] <Viper12> Well I've taken the plung...and its installing....after a weekend of headaches with debian........we'll see.  oh, and hiya! :)
[07:54] <jrnicl2> does anyone know about the following after updating: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[07:54] <jrnicl2> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[07:54] <bitfoo> XIrdneh, well it will take some fiddling i think ;)
[07:54] <bitfoo> jrnicl2, you cant have synaptic open while doing an apt-get command
[07:54] <bitfoo> :|
[07:54] <bitfoo> one or the other
[07:54] <jrnicl2> oh i see
[07:54] <steve> I was lucky, mine worked out the box with ubuntu
[07:54] <jrnicl2> ok thanks
[07:54] <XIrdneh> i will
[07:55] <bubbanga> is there a wine-tool or whatever for ubuntu that makes it easier to install winblows apps? closest i seen was on google something called wine tools but not sure if it works on ubuntu or not
[07:55] <siimo> hi does anyone here use hoary ?
[07:55] <ferris> how can i get unbanned from a room?
[07:55] <steve> what ya do ferris
[07:55] <zenrox> ferris,  ask for forgiveness
[07:55] <ferris> nothing
[07:55] <bitfoo> yeh wine-tools is on ubuntu :|
[07:55] <steve> okay, then you would not be banned
[07:56] <bubbanga> oh it is i dindt see it in synaptic
[07:56] <bitfoo> wine-utils it is called :|
[07:56] <ferris> i tried to go to #sword but it says that i am banned
[07:56] <bubbanga> oh ok thanks
[07:56] <Seminole> Update your repositories if you haven't already and wine should be found.
[07:56] <bitfoo> i dunno how to use it though :|
[07:56] <Seminole> yeah, wine-utils..  good call bitfoo
[07:56] <steve> it is as simple as wine and the executable
[07:56] <ferris> zenrox, how would i
[07:57] <Seminole> Yeah, there is a setup script..
[07:57] <zenrox> contact one of the ops ferris
[07:57] <bitfoo> or you could run vmware and install windows INSIDE linux
[07:57] <ferris> I do not know how to do that
[07:57] <bitfoo> omg :|
[07:57] <mebaran151> anyone know who proxyscan.freenode.net is
[07:57] <siimo> anyone use hoary the window list 2.9.90 is annoying in gnome.. if i open a lot of windows they start to get smaller without first expanding to the entire taskbar :-/
[07:57] <mebaran151> it is filling up my firewall logs
[07:57] <d> I'm downloading multiple isos (just 2 at the mo) under firefox at the moment, but I was really hoping I could tell it to download them in a serial, rather than parallel, manner. Can I do this under Ubuntu?
[07:57] <bubbanga> so just do wine and the exe after installed win-utils
[07:58] <bitfoo> its a bot mebaran151 that checks to make sure you arent connecting through an open proxy :|
[07:58] <mebaran151> ah
[07:58] <mebaran151> ok
[07:58] <mebaran151> it seems to keep getting blocked
[07:58] <mebaran151> is it that important
[07:58] <mebaran151> why would it carry
[07:58] <bitfoo> hmm dunno :O
[07:58] <mebaran151> I mean care
[07:58] <mebaran151> too late
[07:58] <ferris> zenrox, is there a way to find out who the ops is?
[07:59] <siimo> has anyone noticed that??
[07:59] <bitfoo> you could do /who #channelname
[07:59] <mebaran151> and zelzeny.freenode.ent
[07:59] <zenrox> yep bitfoo  is right
[07:59] <bitfoo> maybe bots
[07:59] <bitfoo> i dunno
[07:59] <bitfoo> ask in help :|
[07:59] <d> I've got 5 isosI want downloading whilst I'm at work, i'm scared i'll get booted if I try leaching all 5 at once with Firefox
[07:59] <mebaran151> wget
[07:59] <mebaran151> I think could do that
[08:00] <mebaran151> isnt there an option in wget for that
[08:00] <mebaran151> if you know the urls
[08:00] <bubbanga> trying like crap to get paltalk to work with linux guess it doesn't want to
[08:00] <Seminole> mebaran151, check out the extensions for mozilla here https://addons.update.mozilla.org/extensions/showlist.php?application=firefox&version=0.9&os=Windows&category=Download%20Tools
[08:02] <ferris> zelzeny.freenode.net
[08:03] <mebaran151> extensions dont work for me
[08:03] <mebaran151> I am on AMD64
[08:03] <mebaran151> bleeding edge with an emphasis on blood
[08:03] <Seminole> bummer
[08:03] <d> seminole: aren't they windoze extensions?
[08:03] <Seminole> they are mozilla extensions
[08:03] <Seminole> mozilla is cross platform, so are the extensions.
[08:03] <d> there are a few downkload extensions- can you recommend one?
[08:04] <Seminole> I just grabbed the first one..
[08:04] <mebaran151> Seminole: i have tried loading the extensions
[08:04] <Seminole> DownThemAll or something like that.   It works..
[08:04] <mebaran151> I think the problem is most of the extensions are not built for the 64 bit libraries
[08:04] <Seminole> Flashget is probably good too
[08:04] <mebaran151> they expect 32 bit pointers
[08:04] <mebaran151> which I cant provide
[08:04] <mebaran151> because my system is completely 64 bit
[08:04] <mebaran151> Mozilla is cross platform
[08:05] <mebaran151> but I think it did need a little bit of porting to work
[08:05] <mebaran151> on all the architectures
[08:05] <mebaran151> internally it is all the same
[08:05] <siimo> hi does anyone use hoary?
[08:05] <mebaran151> but the application loader itself and that sort of thing probably had to be ported
[08:05] <mebaran151> slimo: I do
[08:05] <keyvan> im thinking of installing ubuntu on my winbook notebook computer, recommend ubunto for notebooks?
[08:06] <Seminole> yeah, I know I was actually responding to d's question about which one to grab..
[08:06] <siimo> how do i make the gnome window list behave the same way as it did in warty?
[08:06] <siimo> mebaran151: do you know?
[08:06] <Seminole> heard of alot of issues on the AMD64
[08:06] <mebaran151> AMD64 was pretty bad
[08:06] <mebaran151> Evolution doesnt run
[08:06] <mebaran151> teh base is pretty solid though
[08:06] <mebaran151> Gnome finally got fixed
[08:07] <mebaran151> there was a lot of dependency hell
[08:07] <mebaran151> that they finally got fixed too
[08:07] <bitfoo> ggoooodd night ;|
[08:07] <siimo> hmmm
[08:07] <Seminole> I'll save the time and money and wait a few months..   :)
[08:07] <linux-rulz> mebaran151: is this hoary or warty on amd64 that ur talking about?
[08:07] <siimo> i have a huge taskbar but the window list doesnt grow all the way like it used to in warty
[08:07] <siimo> it starts to get so small i cant read the window titles
[08:08] <siimo> and half of the window list is empty
[08:08] <mebaran151> well Hoary
[08:08] <mebaran151> I dont know about Warty
[08:08] <siimo> unless i open like 100 windows and turn off grouping
[08:08] <linux-rulz> ah, ok
[08:08] <mebaran151> I needed Xorg for my Video Card to run
[08:08] <mebaran151> slimo
[08:08] <mebaran151> I had that same problem
[08:08] <_4strO> as I
[08:08] <_4strO> :p
[08:08] <mebaran151> right click the taskbar
[08:08] <mebaran151> there is like a little thing with three dots
[08:09] <mebaran151> next to the "show desktop icon" on the far left
[08:09] <mebaran151> right click that
[08:09] <mebaran151> go to preferences
[08:09] <mebaran151> go to size
[08:09] <mebaran151> and change the minimum size to like 480
[08:09] <siimo> mebaran151: yes i know that but i have to make minimum size very big to make it behave like it used to
[08:09] <mebaran151> or something reasonable
[08:09] <mebaran151> oh
[08:09] <mebaran151> yeah
[08:09] <mebaran151> I do too
[08:09] <mebaran151> I think it is a bug
[08:10] <mebaran151> but I dont care
[08:10] <_4strO> wonderfull =)
[08:10] <mebaran151> it doesnt bother me
[08:10] <_4strO> thx mebaran151
[08:10] <mebaran151> np
[08:10] <mebaran151> I thought minimum size meant minimum size before grouping
[08:10] <mebaran151> the devels must have gotten lazy or something
[08:10] <mebaran151> and decided just to make it the base size
[08:11] <siimo> no it means how wide the window will be with 1 window open
[08:11] <mebaran151> yeah
[08:11] <_4strO> minimum size after grouping ..
[08:11] <siimo> its annoying hope its fixed
[08:11] <mebaran151> but I dont think it should be that way
[08:11] <mebaran151> it should be more relative
[08:11] <mebaran151> I dont know how
[08:11] <mebaran151> but (gasp) more like Windows
[08:11] <siimo> they should follow the windows model where they automatically spread the tabs and shrink them as more windows are added/removed
[08:11] <mebaran151> (end gasp)
[08:11] <mebaran151> yeah
[08:12] <mebaran151> like XFCE even
[08:12] <siimo> i think warty was fine
[08:12] <mebaran151> warty defaulted it huge I think
[08:12] <_4strO> lol siimo
[08:12] <mebaran151> XFCE does alot of things
[08:12] <siimo> _4strO: well this maybe cause gnome 2.9 is dev branch hope its fixed before 2.10
[08:12] <mebaran151> it is the model of correct organization
[08:13] <mebaran151> siimo: but this is a silly bug
[08:13] <mebaran151> they shouldnt purposely break things
[08:13] <mebaran151> heheh
[08:13] <mebaran151> unless it is more complex than I think
[08:13] <mebaran151> why did they need to change the gnome-panel code anyway
[08:13] <_4strO> siimo> warty have gnome 2.9, isnt-it ?
[08:13] <_4strO> ( Operating System ) Linux Debian-3.1 Kernel: 2.6.10-2-k7, GNU/Linux | XFree86: 4.3.0.1 | Desktop: Gnome v2.9.9 | IRC Client: X-Chat v.2.4.1
[08:13] <mebaran151> siimo: nope 2.8
[08:13] <mebaran151> hence stable
[08:13] <siimo> _4strO: 2.8
[08:13] <_4strO> k
[08:14] <mebaran151> stable means --> not broken
[08:14] <mebaran151> (yet)
[08:14] <_4strO> lool
[08:14] <siimo> hoary has 2.9.90 some pkgs
[08:14] <mebaran151> yep
[08:14] <mebaran151> that is the point of Hoary
[08:14] <mebaran151> to let you break your system as fast as you like
[08:14] <_4strO> the big problem in hoary is the python version ...
[08:14] <_4strO> too high
[08:14] <mebaran151> we have python 2.4
[08:15] <mebaran151> they fixed that now :
[08:15] <mebaran151> :p
[08:15] <_4strO> no xmms-remote
[08:15] <_4strO> :/
[08:15] <_4strO> for ex
[08:15] <mebaran151> yeah
[08:15] <mebaran151> that is annoying
[08:15] <_4strO> :)
[08:15] <siimo> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=160977
[08:15] <siimo> thats the bug
[08:15] <siimo> its scheduled for 2.10
[08:15] <siimo> so thats good
[08:15] <mebaran151> oh good some one reported it
[08:16] <siimo> http://elektron.ewi.tudelft.nl/~feliks44/Screenshot.png
[08:16] <siimo> :-/ annoying
[08:16] <undeadhero> where can i find gcc for ubuntu?
[08:17] <siimo> undeadhero: apt-get install gcc
[08:17] <mebaran151> what theme is that guy using
[08:17] <pvh> Hullo, when I change my theme, it doesn't update anymore. What gives?
[08:17] <mebaran151> in the screeny
[08:18] <siimo> ubuntu human
[08:18] <mebaran151> really
[08:18] <mebaran151> hmmm
[08:18] <mebaran151> let me put that on
[08:18] <siimo> isnt that the default
[08:18] <undeadhero> thank you
[08:18] <mebaran151> now
[08:18] <mebaran151> I was looking at the fonts
[08:18] <mebaran151> they are so nice and clean
[08:18] <_4strO> mebaran151> it's the default theme ...
[08:18] <mebaran151> mine are ok
[08:18] <mebaran151> yeah
[08:18] <mebaran151> I just nocited
[08:18] <mebaran151> the fonts struck me nice
[08:18] <mebaran151> maybe I keep my desktop too small
[08:19] <_4strO> lol
[08:19] <d> the flasget extension doesn't support wget- just supports a load of win download managers and get them all doesn't really add any new download options, just lets you download all the links on a page
[08:19] <mebaran151> liek Applicatiosn
[08:19] <mebaran151> look at that hinting
[08:19] <siimo> mebaran151: have you also noticed the nautilus zooming makes fonts too small to read smaller than the minium set it gnome-font-properties
[08:20] <d> so is there no qt/gtk wget front end or something like getright for linux?
[08:20] <siimo> d: i remember one such gwget
[08:20] <grepper> kget
[08:20] <mebaran151> gwget2
[08:21] <mebaran151> apt-get install gwget2
[08:21] <siimo> d: theres also d4x
[08:21] <grepper> kget also integrates with konqueror
[08:21] <mxreader> hi all, can anyone tell me how to set the monitor resolution please? my ubuntu keeps defaulting to too high a resolution each time it has rebooted
[08:22] <d> d4x versus gwget- anyone tried both?
[08:22] <siimo> d: d4x has more features like getright gwget is light
[08:22] <_4strO> gnome-display-properties
[08:23] <_4strO> mxreader>
[08:23] <d> yeah- d4x sounds like what i wanted, thanks!
[08:23] <_4strO> and save session configuration
[08:24] <mebaran151> mxreader: if you want to be ghetto about it
[08:24] <pvh> Is the Gnome Theme Manager broken in Hoary because of the Fam/Gamin switch?
[08:24] <mebaran151> just disable the res in your X config file
[08:24] <siimo> pvh: WFM
[08:24] <pvh> siimo: WFM?
[08:24] <siimo> works for me
[08:25] <mebaran151> pvh: WFMAW
[08:25] <mxreader> 4str0 is that in system tools/configuraton editor?  sorry im a newbie
[08:25] <pvh> huh.
[08:25] <mebaran151> works for me as well
[08:25] <pvh> mebaran151: I wonder what it could be.
[08:25] <Viper12> just booted into a fresh install gnome comes up....all seems well.....select audio app..........and now desktop is unresponsive.  being new to the 'game'.........any shortcuts to kill it?  (still learning my way around.
[08:25] <mebaran151> you could restart X
[08:25] <mebaran151> ctrl alt bkspace
[08:25] <pvh> gtm: It doesn't change themes, and it munches all the CPU.
[08:26] <mebaran151> pvh: nothing happens to me
[08:26] <pvh> mebaran151: I could try a gdb backtrace, too.
[08:26] <mebaran151> you could
[08:26] <_4strO> mxreader> just type gnome-display-properties in console
[08:26] <siimo> ill come back to hoary when window list bug is fixed :)
[08:26] <pvh> siimo: You mean the narrow window listings?
[08:26] <mebaran151> it is int that big a deal
[08:26] <siimo> time to restore warty install
[08:26] <pvh> siimo: That's a joke, right?
[08:26] <siimo> pvh: joke? why
[08:26] <pvh> siimo: Right click the thumb next to the window listings.
[08:26] <mebaran151> siimo: just set it a tad larger
[08:26] <pvh> siimo: Select "properties"
[08:26] <Viper12> that worked mebara..........any gotchas on ac97 sound?  lol.....asking cuz it looks like it doesn't like it.
[08:26] <pvh> siimo: Set the settings to whatever you like.
[08:27] <mebaran151> ac97 can be weird
[08:27] <Viper12> tellin' me.
[08:27] <siimo> thats too annoying for me cause when i have 1 window open its freaking huge
[08:27] <pvh> siimo: You can configure it.
[08:27] <mebaran151> set it to like 480
[08:27] <_4strO> same as warty
[08:27] <mebaran151> and it looks like it should
[08:27] <mebaran151> they jsut set it too small
[08:27] <pvh> siimo: The settings are not intuitive, but they work.
[08:27] <siimo> pvh: but its a bug that will be fixed for 2.10
[08:27] <_4strO> I have to go
[08:27] <_4strO> see ya all
[08:28] <whiprush> morning ooooobooontoooo
[08:28] <_4`aw> =)
[08:28] <_4`aw> morning whiprush
[08:28] <pvh> siimo: Maybe the default value is not good?
[08:28] <mebaran151> Some Gnome guy really has to rethink the defaults
[08:28] <siimo> pvh: its not just default value - windows start grouping before the whole taskbar fills up too
[08:28] <mebaran151> some of them are absurd
[08:28] <pvh> siimo: WFM. :)
[08:28] <siimo> pvh: only fix is making minimum size same as maximum
[08:29] <siimo> pvh: but that way 1 or 2 windows open makes them huge
[08:29] <mebaran151> try XFCE
[08:29] <pvh> siimo: I kinda like that. :)
[08:29] <mebaran151> you will that is sort of useful
[08:29] <mebaran151> yeah
[08:29] <mebaran151> I agree with pvh
[08:29] <pvh> siimo: "Garbage expands to fill the bandwidth available."
[08:29] <siimo> pvh: well its a bug and it is going to be fixed
[08:29] <pvh> siimo: Alright, cool.
[08:29] <mebaran151> siimo: it is a silly bug
[08:29] <siimo> so dont upgrade if you like it this way
[08:29] <mebaran151> it cant be a show stopper
[08:30] <pvh> mebaran151: sure it can
[08:30] <mebaran151> whatever you like
[08:30] <pvh> mebaran151: everyone has certain things they find really annoying
[08:30] <mebaran151> yeah
[08:30] <mebaran151> true
[08:30] <mebaran151> just tired
[08:30] <mebaran151> tired = no logical thought
[08:30] <mxreader> _4strO: i've done that and seen that dialog window before by computer/system confiration/screen resolution... ticked the remember thing.. but next reboot, its back to the high res
[08:30] <mebaran151> but you know
[08:30] <mebaran151> I am coming from a point where gnome couldnt even load
[08:31] <pvh> What is the One True Name of the GTM?
[08:31] <siimo> its not rocket science to make the windows scale to the window list
[08:31] <mebaran151> siimo: it is brain surgery
[08:31] <_4`aw> mxreader> when u close session click to save session propeties
[08:31] <pvh> NM, found it
[08:31] <mebaran151> GTM?
[08:31] <siimo> anyway switching back brb
[08:32] <mebaran151> I have to admit
[08:32] <mebaran151> Xorg really is much better than Xfree
[08:32] <mxreader> _4strO: yes, i've done that
[08:32] <mebaran151> I didnt think I would notice
[08:32] <mebaran151> but it does a cleaner job rendering
[08:33] <_4`aw> sorry mxreader i have to go ...
[08:33] <mebaran151> well I got to go to bed
[08:33] <mebaran151> help
[08:33] <mebaran151> sorry
[08:33] <mebaran151> whoops
[08:33] <mebaran151> wrong box
[08:33] <mpnw> hi guys, my ubuntu box isn't printing to my windows printer (though the network, using samba) anyone want to help me?
[08:33] <mxreader> no worries thanks anyway
[08:33] <_4`aw> ;)
[08:34] <troll_god> Gtkpod really is awesome
[08:35] <mpnw> hello
[08:35] <mpnw> would someone like to help me?
[08:36] <Viper12> hi mpnw  whutup?
[08:36] <mpnw> my ubuntu box isn't printing to my windows printer (though the network, using samba)
[08:37] <mpnw> my printer is an HP deskjet 3650, connected to a machine running windows XP. the XP box is connected to the ubuntu box over the network
[08:37] <mpnw> and i want to be able to print from the ubuntu box onto the hp printer
[08:37] <Viper12> shakes head..does the ubu box have permissions? (without knowing what type of win network you live on...........is it XP home or Pro?  or....server?
[08:37] <zenrox> mpnw, follow www.ubuntuguide.org
[08:37] <mpnw> XP pro, no permissions
[08:38] <mpnw> i been there
[08:38] <mpnw> hasnt got anything on printers
[08:38] <mpnw> to my knowledge
[08:38] <Viper12> you haven't set up 'sharing' on the printer then?
[08:38] <mpnw> sharing is set up
[08:38] <mpnw> with permissions set to EVERYONE (read write etc...)
[08:38] <mpnw> windows sharing that is
[08:39] <Viper12> hmmm. are the drivers compatible between the two enviroments? guessing here.
[08:39] <Viper12> (printer)
[08:39] <mpnw> not sure... i add the printer through the Printing  "Add Printer" dialog in ubuntu
[08:39] <zenrox> my hp 3520 works
[08:39] <zenrox> and its on ubuntu
[08:39] <mpnw> is it pluged into the ubuntu box?
[08:40] <zenrox> yep
[08:40] <mpnw> cos i want to print from the ubuntu box to a shared printer on the windows box
[08:40] <zenrox> was pluged to a windows before the ubuntu virus took over
[08:40] <Viper12> I'd check hp site regarding problems with drivers between the two (communication wise).  if you can SEE the printer from ubu ........should print.
[08:40] <mpnw> no, i can't SEE it
[08:40] <mpnw> u mean in the network config?
[08:40] <Viper12> no
[08:41] <lool> :win 5
[08:41] <lool> oop
[08:41] <Viper12> can you see the XP box at all? (shared drives and such?  (via the files/folders in ubu?)
[08:41] <mpnw> yes
[08:41] <Orcrist> I could be wrong but isn't there a specific daemon in the .debs somewhere for HP print sharing?  not sure if its server-side or what but it may be necessary
[08:41] <mpnw> all shared folders can be accessed
[08:41] <Viper12> then you need to go back to the printer and try to re-share it.
[08:42] <mpnw> tried that
[08:42] <Viper12> if that doesn't do it.......it is possible that a daemon might be required.
[08:42] <mpnw> where can i get that from?
[08:42] <mpnw> any ideas?
[08:42] <Viper12> I'm more XP side expert than linux.........I'd go to hp's site and keyword that in their support section.
[08:42] <Viper12> or get in an hp 'room' and yell there.....
[08:43] <mpnw> is there another way of sharing printers (not thru smb?)
[08:43] <Seminole> mpnw, do you have the printer host listed by the computer name or the IP of the XP machine?
[08:43] <decklin> mpnw: what's your error_log say?
[08:43] <mpnw> no error to log
[08:43] <mpnw> I tried to add the printer thru the Add Printer thing in ubuntu
[08:44] <mpnw> and typed it in as a windows printer
[08:44] <mpnw> with the computer name and share name of the printer
[08:44] <decklin> i mean, if you try to print something.
[08:44] <mpnw> then tried to print to it, and nothing happens
[08:44] <Seminole> Try using the IP of the XP machine
[08:44] <mpnw> okay
[08:44] <Seminole> It may not be working cause you don't have an alias set for the XP name in your hosts file
[08:44] <decklin> if it doesn't work, something should be written to /var/log/cups/error_log
[08:45] <Seminole> or something similar.
[08:45] <Orcrist> mpnw: look in your repositories and do a search for hp printer
[08:45] <mpnw> i'm using smb
[08:45] <mpnw> okay
[08:45] <Seminole> My HP works fine in the same setup using the IP
[08:45] <mpnw> ill try ip
[08:45] <mpnw> brb
[08:45] <Orcrist> there are several different daemons for spoolers and whatnot there... one of those might be what you're after if all else fails
[08:45] <mike_douglas> just noticed that on DistroWatch, Ubuntu is #1 for the "Last Month" standings
[08:46] <Orcrist> also mpnw, try www.linuxprinting.org
[08:46] <mpnw> okay
[08:47] <mpnw> under the Add Printer dialog
[08:47] <mpnw> it asks for CUPS url,  or smb host and printer names
[08:48] <Seminole> select Windows Printer (SMB)
[08:48] <Seminole> Host = IP
[08:48] <spliter> can I ask somebody about the Ubuntu's "Website Look'n'Feel Competition"?
[08:48] <Seminole> Printer = Share Name for Printer
[08:48] <mpnw> okay
[08:48] <mpnw> trying that
[08:48] <Seminole> Don't worry about username / passy yet
[08:49] <Seminole> Select the proper driver after that and then print a test page
[08:49] <mpnw> Unable to connect to samba host
[08:50] <mpnw> cant set dublex mode = book
[08:50] <mpnw> :S
[08:50] <hca> Burner not recognized
[08:50] <Seminole> hmmm
[08:51] <decklin> mpnw: try connecting to it with smbclient. make sure it doesn't have a firewall turned on, etc
[08:51] <mpnw> yeah did that too
[08:51] <mpnw> nothin
[08:52] <mpnw> turn off windows firewall?
[08:52] <Seminole> Do you have SP2 installed?
[08:52] <Seminole> if so, disable the firewall
[08:52] <hca> Burnet not recognized. When trying to burn an *.iso I get the error message: "Burn/// is not a correct address" The burner works correctly on other OS's
[08:53] <mpnw> yes
[08:53] <mpnw> i disabled firewall
[08:53] <mpnw> and retried
[08:53] <mpnw> still nothing
[08:54] <Seminole> Do you have another folder shared on the network that you CAN connect to wth smbclient?
[08:54] <whiprush> hca: you try right clicking on the iso and choosing "write to cd"?
[08:54] <mpnw> i can access all the shared folders on the XP box thru ubuntu
[08:54] <mpnw> by just clicking on the network button
[08:55] <Seminole> No issues with sytax for the printer share name?
[08:55] <mpnw> it's shared as neb-hp
[08:56] <Seminole> is there anything in the username / password fields?
[08:56] <mpnw> no
[08:56] <mpnw> on windows, under permissions, it's allow everything to everyone
[08:56] <Seminole> hmm...   Mine auto populated with three stars in the password field..  Have no idea what they are as I didn't set a password.
[08:56] <Seminole> Mine works
[08:57] <Seminole> nothing in my username field..
[08:57] <Seminole> Now I'm afraid to mess with it..   :)
[08:57] <mpnw> yeah, mine autopopulated with stars as well
[08:57] <Seminole> leave those in perhaps?
[08:57] <mpnw> it looked like the same length as my root password
[08:57] <Seminole> Not mine...  way off
[08:57] <mpnw> it doesnt seem to work with them in or out
[08:57] <Seminole> Your printer is found on the driver list right?
[08:58] <mpnw> yes
[08:58] <mpnw> HP deskjet 3650
[08:58] <mpnw> its there in all its glory
[08:58] <mpnw> still says "Unable to connect to SAMBA host"
[08:59] <hca> Is there someone out there having had success with a liteOn burner?
[08:59] <mpnw> in error log it says "NT_STATUS_BAD_NETWORK_NAME"
[08:59] <mpnw> clue?
[09:00] <Seminole> I wish I knew..  You have access to your other shares but not your printer.  That alone says that the smb is working but just not for your printer.
[09:00] <decklin> ok. what's the smb:// url you're using?
[09:01] <mpnw> smb:// url?
[09:02] <mpnw> is that to me?
[09:02] <Rake`> Hey guys - is there a way to view installed packages in terminal?
[09:02] <mpnw> smb://nebula/neb-hp  (nebula is windows box)
[09:03] <Ayden> what's the package name for sshd?
[09:03] <Seminole> type ping nebula
[09:03] <decklin> Rake`: dpkg -l
[09:04] <decklin> Ayden: openssh-server
[09:04] <Rake`> ta
[09:04] <Ayden> ...
[09:04] <Ayden> why isn't it named sshd?
[09:04] <pvh> Where can I find daily Wine debs these days?
[09:04] <mpnw> unknown host nebula
[09:05] <zenrox> Ayden, openssh-server is what it is
[09:05] <Seminole> try smb://192.x.x.x/neb-hp  ??
[09:05] <decklin> Ayden, there are many many different implementations of the ssh protocol
[09:05] <mpnw> try it where?
[09:05] <mpnw> in the host textbox?
[09:06] <Seminole> well, no...   the host box is only for the host..
[09:06] <Orcrist> why is it that despite my internet workign fine, dhcp'ing correctly (I didn't have to touch the setup) and all else being well, when I try to do a ping or traceroute it just hangs on me? does ubuntu have some strict firewalling rules by default?
[09:06] <Seminole> perhaps adding a line in /etc/hosts ?
[09:06] <mpnw> ok
[09:06] <Ayden> decklin, i suppose.
[09:06] <Seminole> 192.x.x.x nebula
[09:06] <bubbanga> any reaosn why when i install firefox 1.0 from debian the java plugin doesn't work anymore i checked the links nd all and the pluggin is there :( if i revert back to the old version of firefox it works just fine any suggestions on how to fix this?
[09:07] <Orcrist> bubbanga have you tried re-registering the plugin?
[09:07] <bubbanga> no i haven't how do you do that?
[09:08] <Orcrist> go to edit, preferences, and then web features
[09:08] <mpnw> i added that line
[09:08] <Orcrist> make sure the boxes for 'enable java' and 'enable javascript' are checked
[09:08] <bubbanga> both are checked
[09:09] <Orcrist> hmm... you're sure the plugin is in the mozilla-firefox directory for the version you have installed?  I forget exactly where it goes but it has to be in /whatever/mozilla-firefox/plugins or some such
[09:09] <bubbanga> i checked which firefox
[09:09] <bubbanga> then ls -la on that in /usr/bin and then went to that dir
[09:10] <bubbanga> and looked in plugins
[09:10] <bubbanga> and the so file is there
[09:10] <Orcrist> strange
[09:10] <Orcrist> I know that when I tried to upgrade to 1.0 under warty it broke several things
[09:10] <Orcrist> notably my widgets, flash, and java capabilities
[09:10] <bubbanga> yeah
[09:10] <Orcrist> took me a long time to un-fux them
[09:10] <bubbanga> same here
[09:11] <Orcrist> eventually I reverted back... even though there are some sweet features in 1.0
[09:11] <bubbanga> the debian file is what i downloaded
[09:11] <bubbanga> whats funny is i have it working just fine on my desktop box
[09:11] <bubbanga> i wonder if i copy the plugin over it will work?
[09:11] <Orcrist> you could try that
[09:11] <Orcrist> does the browswer work okay other than java?
[09:12] <bubbanga> yeah but the only reason i have tried to upgrade is this
[09:12] <bubbanga> i think there is a bug in firefox or something
[09:12] <bubbanga> cause it will close at random for no reason at all
[09:12] <bubbanga> all firefox instances will close
[09:12] <Orcrist> perhaps... 1.0 is a 'pre-release' if I remember correctly
[09:12] <Agrajag> no, 1.0 is 1.0
[09:12] <Agrajag> it's the first release
[09:12] <bubbanga> yeah its 1.1 now isn't it?
[09:13] <pvh> Orcrist: There was a 1.0PR, which came shortly before 1.0.
[09:13] <Orcrist> I dunno... I could have sworn the 1.0 I had with hoary was labelled 'presomething'
[09:13] <Orcrist> that's the one I'm thinking of then pvh
[09:13] <bubbanga> any suggestions guys?
[09:13] <pvh> Orcrist: It was the 'pre-release' version of 1.0
[09:13] <troll_god>  Im going to make my next project removing python from ubuntu
[09:14] <GammaRay> troll_god: well happy day
[09:14] <Orcrist> lol that should be fun
[09:15] <Orcrist> python comes in nice and handy when building packages from source... esp if the tools used are python-enabled
[09:15] <troll_god> it offends me
[09:15] <Orcrist> do you love the perl?
[09:15] <troll_god> yar
[09:16] <Orcrist> I personally dislike perl... but for things like cgi scripting it's far more efficient than the python modules apache offers
[09:16] <troll_god> apt-get --force-yes --purge remove python*
[09:16] <Orcrist> then again, it's a null point since the site I serve gets like 3 hits a year
[09:16] <HrdwrBoB> removing python in ubuntu is a Bad IDea
[09:17] <troll_god> HrdwrBoB: Im told that but i don't understand what is so vital about python
[09:17] <HrdwrBoB> perl is to debian
[09:17] <HrdwrBoB> as python is to ubuntu
[09:17] <troll_god> HrdwrBoB: keep in mind im not really running ubuntu anymore, killed off init scripts and module overload etc
[09:17] <HrdwrBoB> troll_god: well then go for your life
[09:18] <HrdwrBoB> if it breaks, fix it yourself :)
[09:18] <Orcrist> lol he's running troll_godppix
[09:18] <troll_god> HrdwrBoB: debian doesn't install pearl by default =/
[09:18] <troll_god> perl*
[09:18] <HrdwrBoB> troll_god: er
[09:18] <HrdwrBoB> are you smoking some sort of crack?
[09:18] <HrdwrBoB> perl is in base
[09:19] <troll_god> HrdwrBoB: use the debian net inst, you get package selection and perl will not be installed by default
[09:19] <dbt`veritas> good night peoples:)
[09:19] <Deschanel> Hey. I've ordered few free CDs from the official Ubuntu site, and I am don't know when I'm receiving them, or am I receiving them at all. Any help?
[09:19] <whiprush> Deschanel: they might take a while.
[09:19] <Orcrist> Deschanel, they send them in bulk
[09:19] <pvh> Deschanel: It takes a while for them to ship.
[09:19] <Orcrist> they'll post up or email you when they send them out
[09:19] <dbt`veritas> i got ten a few weeks ago
[09:19] <eyequeue> he may be making an arbitrary distinction between package 'perl' and package 'perl-base'
[09:19] <dbt`veritas> i got a bunch so i could hand htem out:P
[09:19] <Orcrist> it usually takes a while... the last shipment was recently
[09:20] <dbt`veritas> already got 2 people using ubuntu
[09:20] <pvh> dbt`veritas: Are they pretty?
[09:20] <dbt`veritas> very much so
[09:20] <Orcrist> yeah they want you to do that... and I've converted half my workplace to ubuntu
[09:20] <dbt`veritas> nice
[09:20] <Deschanel> But I will recive them *sometime* right?
[09:20] <dbt`veritas> i got some mac ones too
[09:20] <pvh> Orcrist: very nice
[09:20] <pvh> Deschanel: yep
[09:20] <dbt`veritas> yes deschanel you will
[09:20] <pvh> Deschanel: slow connection?
[09:20] <dbt`veritas> everyone: nite from MSU -Bozeman
[09:20] <Orcrist> well I'm trying to convert them to linux in general, but I know I'm wasting my time if it's not slick, clean, and easy for n00bs
[09:20] <Deschanel> lol. yea, dial-up
[09:20] <HrdwrBoB> troll_god: http://packages.debian.org/stable/base/ perl base syste
[09:20] <HrdwrBoB> m
[09:20] <Orcrist> which is why ubuntu pwns so hard
[09:21] <HrdwrBoB> http://packages.debian.org/stable/base/perl-base
[09:21] <pvh> Deschanel: patience sucks
[09:21] <troll_god> HrdwrBoB: This comp is debian; apt-cache show-pkg base-files | grep perl, nothing returns
[09:21] <Deschanel> ok, 10x for your help guys. bye.
[09:21] <troll_god> HrdwrBoB: so becuase perl is in woody its in 'base'
[09:21] <Orcrist> hardcore linuxistas are like 'ubuntu is so n00b' and I'm like 'I spent 9 months in SuSE hell, I'll .deb format and nice succinct packaging any day'
[09:21] <Orcrist> not knocking suse
[09:21] <HrdwrBoB> troll_god: perl-bae is in base
[09:21] <HrdwrBoB> base
[09:22] <troll_god> HrdwrBoB: perl is also in ubuntu's warty, its not a base package though
[09:22] <Orcrist> but I, like a lot of .deb distro users really developed a distaste for .rpms
[09:22] <troll_god> HrdwrBoB: no its not
[09:22] <whiprush> Orcrist: it's not really that bad, it all depends on the packagers really ...
[09:22] <troll_god> HrdwrBoB: one again, 'apt-cache showpkg base-files | grep perl' does not return a package, there is no perl in debian base install
[09:23] <HrdwrBoB> base-files is not 'base'
[09:23] <whiprush> if 10 different people offered debs for the same package we'd be just as hosed.
[09:23] <Orcrist> well other than YaST, I liked SuSE very much... but when I installed ximian gnome - a novell product as well, and it broke 177 packages... I was like 'omg'
[09:23] <HrdwrBoB> base-files is a package that contains base files
[09:24] <troll_god> HrdwrBoB: Then whats 'base' its a meta package for base-files and base-passwd, with base-files being the system, and base-passwrd being encryption stuff
[09:24] <bubbanga> anything special have to be done to a so file to get it to work ? i scp'd the file over to my /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins dir and nada no java this stinks :(
[09:24] <eyequeue> okay, 4-line flood to prevent > 4 line argument
[09:24] <cfitz> hello, all
[09:24] <Orcrist> how did you install java in the first place bubbanga? from the sun installer or from the .deb package?
[09:25] <bubbanga> i got it from the debpackage but i think i see what i did wrong
[09:25] <Mixut> hello
[09:25] <bubbanga> i coppied the symbolic link instead of the actual true file
[09:26] <Mixut> i have a problem with uninstalling ubuntu, can anyone help??
[09:26] <troll_god> HrdwrBoB: ... ? understand?
[09:26] <Orcrist> what's your problem mixut?
[09:26] <eyequeue> troll_god:  better yet, you're in woody? 'apt-cache show perl-base | head -n 4'
[09:27] <troll_god> eyequeue: so perl-base, is not debian base, its just a meta package for perl...
[09:27] <HrdwrBoB> troll_god: I'm not talking to you
[09:27] <HrdwrBoB> it's not productive
[09:27] <troll_god> eyequeue: nothing in debian requires perl-base
[09:27] <HrdwrBoB> catch
[09:27] <eyequeue> troll_god:  read the output of that command
[09:27] <pvh> eyequeue: You realise you're arguing with someone named "troll_god"...
[09:28] <bubbanga> orcist how you do recommend installing the java?
[09:28] <eyequeue> pvh:  he's about to go on /ignore
[09:28] <Mixut> well, i have tried to uninstall ubuntu like thousands of times, but it just won't work.if i have completled installing windows it won't boot to windows, but shows me that one line: Error loading the operation system:(
[09:28] <troll_god> HrdwrBoB: your a fucking idiot first you say im wrong, which im not *debian does not require perl* than you say im smoking crack, then you relise im right and rather than admiting to it you just drop the conversation, very elegant
[09:28] <bubbanga> i do't mind listening if you have a working method
[09:29] <bubbanga> install it from suns page or from debian?
[09:29] <eyequeue> bubbanga:  i believe that's covered at ubuntuguide, /topic
[09:30] <bubbanga> i followed that :)
[09:30] <bubbanga> no worky worky :)
[09:30] <Mixut> umm...i want to install windows instead of ubuntu...sorry my english isn't so good
[09:30] <bubbanga> in the old build it worksk but 1.0 it doesn't
[09:30] <eyequeue> Mixut:  using an partitioning program, such as fdisk, will accomplish what you want
[09:31] <eyequeue> Mixut:  that includes linux's fdisk, or microsoft's fdisk
[09:31] <eyequeue> any
[09:32] <Mixut> i've heard about fdisk, but i can't make it work:(i don't know how to make a disk bootable.
[09:33] <Hwolf> Mixut, fdisk is not hard. Just run man fdisk in the terminal, and you can read all about it.
[09:33] <whiprush> cfdisk dude
[09:33] <whiprush> normal fdisk is pain on a stick
[09:34] <Mixut> wow, thank you i got it work...i'll check it and tell here if it won't work
[09:36] <Hwolf> whiprush: fdisk is the greatest invention since castration, which someone will hopefully do on everyone who has spyware on his pc. :-P
[09:47] <mpnw> m
[09:48] <Holger_S> hi
[09:52] <Rake`> Q - something broke with Synaptic - nothings showing up in the area which show packages, though it says down the bottom it's listing them. Any ideas?
[09:56] <arturaz> what's with user resolution not being saved when changed from system configuration?
[09:56] <Twentyone> moin'
[09:59] <bubbanga> whats the path to the C headers for the kernal so i can put vmware to it please?
[10:00] <crimsun> bubbanga: untar it in /usr/src
[10:01] <bubbanga> i did that
[10:01] <bubbanga> the vmware that is
[10:01] <bubbanga> i untared it and moved the dir to /usr/scr/
[10:02] <crimsun> bubbanga: so you can use /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.8.1/include
[10:02] <bubbanga> ok let me try
[10:02] <crimsun> bubbanga: vmware requires the EXTRAVERSION muckery, though
[10:03] <bubbanga> so basically in a nutshell i'm wasting my time ?
[10:03] <bubbanga> i installed this to /usr/loca/scr thats ok isn't it
[10:04] <bubbanga> i not you said /usr/scr
[10:04] <bubbanga> err now even
[10:04] <crimsun> you just have to tell it the source explicitly
[10:04] <mchasard> hi , is there a tool to save configuration on a usb key for a live cd use ...ubuntu
[10:05] <mchasard> or gnoppix
[10:05] <bubbanga> hmm i just don't see the include files
[10:05] <FAST> is vmware still on a trial basis ?
[10:07] <crimsun> bubbanga: they're in include/
[10:07] <bubbanga> not by default i just foudn it in synamptic
[10:07] <bubbanga> installing now
[10:08] <bubbanga> and thanks
[10:12] <mchasard> so for the configuration save please ?
[10:13] <bubbanga> do i have to untar that file it placed in there
[10:13] <bubbanga> the bz2 file i now have a linux-source-2.6....bz2 file in /usr/src
[10:16] <shock> moin
[10:21] <bubbanga> crimsun: when i point it to that dir it says the dir exist but doesn't contain any dir like "linux" or "asm" any idea how to correct this?
[10:22] <crimsun> bubbanga: uname -r
[10:23] <crimsun> bubbanga: you need to modify EXTRAVERSION in the top-level Makefile and run ,,make prepare''
[10:23] <crimsun> bubbanga: also, search the forum for help on vmware
[10:23] <crimsun> (sorry, have to sleep)
[10:23] <spliter_> Can anybody tell me where can I see the results of Ubuntu's "Website Look'n'Feel Competition"?
[10:25] <arturaz> what's with user resolution not being saved when changed from system configuration?
[10:27] <greengo> Hello everybody I was wondering if anyone here knew what enabling Universe in Synaptic. is supposed to do I'm using Ubuntu Linux
[10:28] <greengo> hello
[10:29] <greengo> Anybody here?
[10:29] <shock> ofc
[10:29] <shock> universe are additional sources of stuff like kde
[10:29] <shock> hmpf
[10:30] <troll_god> grepper: yar
[10:30] <troll_god> grepper: im here
[10:30] <troll_god> grepper: try 'sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list'
[10:31] <troll_god> the very first one at the top of the list that starts with 'deb' not 'deb-src' add 'universe multiverse' to the end of the line
[10:35] <lightbade> hi i tried everything listed in the ubuntu forum to get totem to play mp3 files, but it doesnt. HELP!!!
[10:37] <shock> ?
[10:40] <Twentyone> is rythmbox compiled with ipod support ?
[10:40] <Twentyone> (ubuntu ackqge)
[10:42] <seb128> correct
[10:51] <mpnw> hey, my Samba daemons arn't starting on bootup... it just halts
[10:51] <mpnw> can someone help?
[10:52] <Twentyone> look at the log message at startup.... if it stops, this means thre is an error somewhere (connection, config...)
[10:53] <Twentyone> or try to start it by hand and see the error message
[10:53] <Twentyone> and give us this message
[10:54] <mpnw> i cant get in, cos it halts on startup
[10:54] <mpnw> at Starting Samba Daemons
[10:54] <mpnw> boot in rescue mode?
[10:59] <shastry> hi all
[10:59] <shastry> how to get the latest packages ?
[11:00] <shastry> brb
[11:12] <Claus> hello... where can i find a 'warty to hoary' guide. I've managede to do the apt-get update part, but when I reboot it doesnt' start the gdm/ login screen
[11:13] <ClaudeA> and i don't know how to become root??!!!?
[11:15] <Twentyone> mpnw: wel, try rebooting in rescue mode, yes...
[11:16] <Twentyone> ClaudeA: you can't "become" root with ubuntu... root account is disabled
[11:16] <Twentyone> you need to use the sudo command each time
[11:16] <Twentyone> sudo <yourcommand>
[11:16] <Twentyone> to run the command as root
 ClaudeA: you can't "become" root with ubuntu... root account is disabled <--- or u do "sudo bash"
[11:17] <shock> ;)
[11:17] <mpnw> in rescue mode, it boots fine and samba starts fine,
[11:17] <Twentyone> shock: right.. but shhhhhhhhh ^^
[11:17] <shock> *g*
[11:17] <mpnw> but still halts on normal bootup at starting samba
[11:17] <Twentyone> shock: or even sudo su :)
[11:17] <shock> hrhr
[11:18] <Twentyone> mpnw: so, maybe the samba configis bad.... and it hangs waiting indefinitely
[11:18] <mpnw> smb.conf looks fine
[11:19] <Twentyone> mpnw: try to run samba in a console to see if it hangs an the eventual error
[11:19] <Twentyone> hum...
[11:19] <mpnw> i started samba in console
[11:19] <mpnw> and it started fine
[11:19] <mpnw> just on startup it hangs
[11:21] <scizzo> mpnw: you can validate the config
[11:21] <ClaudeA> shock, righto... but uh, how do I get gnome to run (I'm all BSD, so I know jack about ubuntu)
[11:21] <scizzo> mpnw: there is a command for that don't remember exactly the command though
[11:22] <Twentyone> ClaudeA: bsd... hum... it's pretty different from linux :/
[11:22] <mpnw> testparm?
[11:23] <mpnw> i tried that
[11:23] <mpnw> looks fine
[11:24] <ClaudeA> Twentyone, yes it is, but 'it just works' never mind that tho' i like ubuntu on my laptop, it seems all I need to get working is 'loading gnom [fail] '
[11:24] <scizzo> mpnw: are you sure that nmbd is started also?
[11:24] <Twentyone> hum
[11:24] <Twentyone> ClaudeA: are you using gdm as login ?
[11:26] <ClaudeA> Twentyone, I should be, it's a clean install with 'hoary' in soures.list and then all upgrade from synaptics
[11:26] <ClaudeA> recap that it's a clean warty install which is then modded to hoary in sources.list
[11:26] <ciocanel> keats: formateaza hardu' si punei windows.
[11:26] <mpnw> how can i tell if nmbd is started?
[11:27] <ClaudeA> shock, gdm isn't starting
[11:28] <spiral> hi
[11:28] <shock> hm
[11:28] <shock> well... what does it say about starting GDM ?
[11:28] <shock> or do apt-get install --reinstall gdm
[11:29] <Twentyone> ClaudeA: I'm a little bit confused.... you know about bsd, but you are currently using ubuntu.. right ?
[11:29] <shock> maybe it got screwed during upgrade?
[11:29] <ClaudeA> Twentyone, yup. 'tis right...using FreeBSD as server and on my desktop, ubuntu is on my laptop.
[11:30] <Twentyone> ok :)
[11:30] <Twentyone> I'm less confused :p
[11:30] <ClaudeA> shock, it says's [fail]  in the last line before login (just before gdm starts or the login appears)
[11:30] <shock> hm
[11:30] <Twentyone> ClaudeA: what error did you get when running gdm in a console ?
[11:30] <jcarnie> does anyone have expericence with installing mythtv for a dvb card?
[11:31] <shock> can u do a "startx" ClaudeA ?
[11:31] <shock> see if x might be bungled?
[11:31] <ClaudeA> shino, startx doesn't work
[11:31] <shock> what does that say?
[11:31] <shock> when u run it
[11:31] <ClaudeA> afaik it goes from xfree86 to xorg on the update?
[11:32] <ClaudeA> don't remember, but I can check, gotta reboot.
[11:32] <shock> should if you have ubuntu-desktop installed
[11:32] <spiral> ClaudeA: did you try "startx" with a normal account or root ?
[11:32] <ClaudeA> spiral, yup
[11:32] <ClaudeA> normal
[11:32] <shock> maybe this weird thing about empty xorg.conf ?
[11:33] <shock> I had that effect on my desktop
[11:33] <Twentyone> ClaudeA: ubuntu is installed withx.org, not xfree
[11:33] <ClaudeA> Twentyone, warty is xfree afaik?
[11:33] <shock> no - warty installs xfree
[11:33] <Twentyone> shock: right, I had one problem.. because of my mouse not plugged in
[11:33] <shock> hoary upgrades to xorg but keeps xfree in repos
[11:34] <Twentyone> oh ok.. I'm wrong... sorry...
[11:34] <ClaudeA> would a clean hoary install work? last ISO I triede didn't work
[11:34] <mpnw> samba daemons still halting startup
[11:34] <shock> erm
[11:34] <shock> actually I think an upgraded system should work
[11:34] <Twentyone> mpnw: weird
[11:34] <shock> did your upgrade finish successfully?
[11:35] <shock> (run apt-get dist-upgrade again amd see if anthing's missing)
[11:35] <Twentyone> is hoary the next version, is like the SID version of debian.. an "unstable" distro
[11:36] <ClaudeA> shock; it sait that some settign weren't successfull, but nothing like xorg og xfree settign etc.
[11:36] <newter> any one have any issuse after the first install step.  It locks up when after the reboot, it brings you to the welcome screen when you do your base system configuration?
[11:37] <spiral> ClaudeA: try dist-upgrade again maybe
[11:37] <spiral> ClaudeA: and check if you've got a "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[11:37] <ClaudeA> i'll give it a go.
[11:37] <ClaudeA> BBL, reboot
[11:37] <spiral> ClaudeA: and look at what X says when it fails to launch...
[11:38] <spiral> see /var/log/Xorg*
[11:41] <fodcaade> hi
[11:41] <fodcaade> you where
[11:42] <mpnw> 21: i did apt-get remove samba and it started
[11:42] <Twentyone> Oo
[11:42] <Twentyone> very weird :p
[11:44] <mpnw> yeah, now wondering whether to reinstall it
[11:51] <tuxJr_14> hi
[11:52] <Twentyone> hi tuxJr_14
[11:53] <tuxJr_14> hi 21
[11:53] <Twentyone> mpnw: well.. if you really don't need samba.. don't install it...
[11:54] <tuxJr_14> s/21/Twentyone/
[11:54] <Twentyone> thats ok :)
[11:54] <Twentyone> xchat recognised booth ;)
[11:54] <Twentyone> both
[11:55] <spiral> any new about smart batteries gestion under hoary ?
[11:55] <tuxJr_14> thanks
[11:55] <tuxJr_14> how!!??
[12:01] <spiral> hmmm... I just found a spanish website explaining how to compile a kernel to handle a smartbattery for ubuntu
[12:01] <spiral> but I don't speak spanish, and I'dd prefer if it was handled by the standard .deb kernel
[12:01] <spiral> does anyone here know if it'll soon be possible ?
[12:04] <spiral> anyone about this smart battery problem ?
[12:05] <tuxJr_14> is vim 7 developement version in hoary?
[12:06] <tuxJr_14> or warty?
[12:07] <spiral> tuxJr_14: not by default, at least... I query apt
[12:07] <scizzo> Vim 6.3.061 is the current version
[12:07] <spiral> tuxJr_14:  6.3.58 on hoary
[12:08] <scizzo> sounds like it is development all over...
[12:08] <tuxJr_14> thanks.
[12:09] <tuxJr_14> scizzo: please elaborate.
[12:10] <Cyph3rM0rph> HI
[12:11] <scizzo> tuxJr_14: ?
[12:11] <Cyph3rM0rph> I have a question
[12:11] <scizzo> Cyph3rM0rph: ask it then...
[12:11] <Cyph3rM0rph> Is the Ubunt also in a bootable CD avaible
[12:12] <Cyph3rM0rph> ?
[12:12] <scizzo> Cyph3rM0rph: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/download/
[12:13] <Cyph3rM0rph> thnx now i see the live CD
[12:13] <Cyph3rM0rph> I'va watch over it
[12:14] <Cyph3rM0rph> thnx
[12:15] <mpnw> i apt-get installed samba and it halted when starting
[12:16] <William_Cain> Hello.
[12:16] <mpnw> hello
[12:17] <mpnw> any ideas on samba halting problem?
[12:17] <William_Cain> I have a problem with the "gnome-background-properties." It quits every time I enter it unless I delete the backgrounds.xml file.
[12:18] <Twentyone> spiral: I had to add the acpi and apm modules to compile in the kernel, to get the batteries and temperature etc.. working
[12:18] <William_Cain> But when I delete that file, I lose all the backgrounds I've listed, and have to add them again, upon when the program crashes anyway...
[12:18] <Twentyone> that was on my debian sid.. I think it should be the same under ubuntu
[12:18] <spiral> Twentyone: hmmm... in this case, it's a specific problem with "Smart batteries"
[12:19] <Twentyone> spiral: maybe
[12:19] <spiral> and smb here, mdz maybe... Told me that this should be supported natively in hoary if I were lucky
[12:19] <Twentyone> ok.. lnch time :)
[12:19] <mpnw> 21: my mail is flooded with: Segfault in Samba
[12:19] <mpnw> have a good lunch!:)
[12:20] <Twentyone> thanks ;)
[12:26] <niptac> I noticed ubuntu doesnt seem to play any mp3's or nothing
[12:26] <klaym> niptac: you need to fiddle first (as with every linux distro), go to www.ubuntuguide.org
[12:26] <niptac> the music player also doesnt play any radio songs
[12:26] <mjr> /last restric
[12:27] <mjr> nip, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats/
[12:27] <William_Cain>  Why doesn't "gnome-background-properties" support more than a few wallpapers in its list? It works well to add 20 wallpapers, but if you close it and open it again, it crashes.
[12:27] <niptac> ohh I see maybe I need to change permissions?
[12:27] <William_Cain> However, if the list only contains, say, five wallpapers, everything works fine.
[12:28] <HrdwrBoB> William_Cain: I beleive that's an already reported bug
[12:28] <HrdwrBoB> check bugzilla.ubuntu.co
[12:28] <HrdwrBoB> check bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[12:30] <William_Cain> Ok, sorry, I didn't know that.
[12:30] <William_Cain> Do you think they will fix it soon?
[12:30] <niptac> thanks
[12:33] <Se7h> question
[12:33] <Se7h> what can make a java app not to start ?
[12:34] <shock> wrong JRE? broken java-app
[12:34] <shock> ?
[12:34] <shock> be more specific =)
[12:35] <Se7h> no not that
[12:35] <Se7h> hmm
[12:35] <Se7h> for ie
[12:35] <Se7h> my azureus
[12:35] <Se7h> or some other app
[12:35] <Se7h> doesn't matter
[12:35] <Se7h> they start normaly
[12:35] <Se7h> for from time to time
[12:36] <Se7h> azureus (that's always on) shutsdown
[12:36] <Se7h> and every java app wont start
[12:36] <Se7h> i cant figure it out why
[12:36] <scoon> Se7h, for ie ?
[12:36] <odyssey> hi i was wondering how i find out which package provides ppmmake?
[12:36] <Se7h> ie = example
[12:36] <scoon> Se7h, ah
[12:36] <Se7h> lol
[12:37] <scoon> Se7h, open up a terminal and run one of the problem apps, see if you can find a clue there.
[12:38] <Se7h> but it affects all apps
[12:38] <Se7h> The java class is not found:  org/gudy/azureus2/ui/swt/Main
[12:38] <Se7h> Azureus TERMINATED.
[12:38] <Se7h> and for mercury: "Segmentation fault"
[12:39] <scoon> Se7h, are you using the jre or jdk ?\
[12:39] <Se7h> if i reboot the sys
[12:39] <Se7h> it will all be alright
[12:39] <Se7h> but i was trying to avoid rebooting
[12:39] <scoon> Se7h, so this isn't really like winhell so there are only a few times when the M$ way is appropriate.
[12:40] <scoon> Se7h, are you jdk or jre ?
[12:40] <Se7h> cant really remember what i installed
[12:40] <Se7h> gimme a sec
[12:40] <Se7h> jre
[12:40] <scoon> Se7h, did you apt it or another way ?
[12:40] <Se7h> no
[12:41] <Se7h> its not the first time this happens
[12:41] <scoon> Se7h, so another way.
[12:41] <Se7h> if i keep my pc turned on for a long time
[12:41] <Se7h> this happens
[12:41] <scoon> Se7h, is java in your path ?
[12:41] <Se7h> erm
[12:41] <Se7h> yes
[12:41] <scoon> echo $PATH
[12:41] <Se7h> there's not problem with java or the app's
[12:42] <scoon> Se7h, ok then.  Have you check out top and see if there are any runaway procs.
[12:42] <Se7h> HMM
[12:42] <Se7h> WELL..
[12:42] <Se7h> IT SHOULD BE THERE
[12:42] <Se7h> BUT ITS NOT
[12:42] <Se7h> ups, sorry for the caps
[12:43] <scoon> Se7h, also, what happens if you try and sudo one of the javas that are not working ?
[12:43] <scoon> Se7h, are you warty or hoary ?
[12:43] <Se7h> warty
[12:43] <scoon> Se7h, so java is not in your path.
[12:43] <shock> this fam replacement is as crappy as fam was *grml*
[12:43] <Se7h> with or without sudo
[12:43] <Se7h> its the same
[12:44] <scoon> Se7h, without preferably
[12:44] <Se7h> y
[12:44] <Se7h> just checking
[12:44] <scoon> Se7h, what happens if you java -version in a terminal ?
[12:44] <Ng> shock: gamin? what's up with it?
[12:44] <Se7h> java -version ?
[12:45] <Se7h> command not found
[12:45] <rockshock> need help
[12:45] <shock> we all do
[12:45] <shock> btw
[12:45] <shock> need a life
[12:45] <rockshock> hehe
[12:45] <shock> nice nick =)
[12:45] <rockshock> well, my cd boots into DR-DOS and i cant figure it out
[12:46] <jirwin> hello
[12:46] <rockshock> im gonna install this thing on my pc
[12:46] <jirwin> I was wondering if someone could tell me how to run in CLI only
[12:46] <shock> er....
[12:46] <shock> ok
[12:46] <Se7h> scoon well ty anyway
[12:46] <scoon> Se7h, that could be a problem there. you should have java in your path.
[12:46] <Se7h> y
[12:46] <Se7h> its wierd tho
[12:47] <Se7h> cause when i reboot this
[12:47] <Ng> jirwin: you want the machine to boot up and not start X?
[12:47] <Se7h> it'll all be good
[12:47] <Se7h> lol
[12:47] <scoon> Se7h, what about just logging out and back in again.
[12:47] <jirwin> ng: that is correct
[12:47] <Se7h> scoon think i've tried that
[12:47] <Se7h> and no good
[12:47] <Se7h> but i'll try one more time
[12:48] <scoon> k
 well, my cd boots into DR-DOS and i cant figure it out <--- describe your steps and the result a little more detailed please
[12:48] <Ng> jirwin: the correct way is to use update-rc.d to tell gdm to stop at runlevel 2, the easy way is to delete /etc/rc2.d/S99gdm
[12:48] <mpnw> can anyone help me with samba/printer problems?
[12:49] <jirwin> Ng: which way would you suggest?
[12:49] <rockshock> Well, i start up my PC , and boots from the cd where i burned the iso file...then something called Caldera DR-DOS starts up...
[12:49] <Ng> jirwin: personally I would just nuke the S99gdm symlink, but if you can be bothered to read the update-rc.d man page and do it correctly you will be a better person for it ;)
[12:50] <jirwin> ok thank you :)
[12:50] <jirwin> is there anyway to load in X when it starts...but change the runlevel?
[12:50] <mpnw> i try to print from ubuntu to a printer (hp 3650) connected to winXP - all i get is Remote Downlevel Document appearing in the spooler (on winXP) and nothing else happens
[12:51] <Ng> jirwin: how do you mean?
[12:51] <jirwin> or even better...if I nuke that symlink, can I still start X?
[12:51] <jirwin> Ng: I have a girlfriend that still uses my computer, and won't appreciate the CLI
[12:51] <jirwin> Ng: but I am immersing myself in the environment to learn it
[12:52] <Ng> jirwin: ah, well you can use both at the same time, so you could have it boot up and start X, then hit Ctrl-Alt-F1 and you'll get the virtual consoles, she just has to hit Ctrl-Alt-F7 to get the terminal X is running on
[12:52] <mpnw> i try to print from ubuntu to a printer (hp 3650) connected to winXP - all i get is Remote Downlevel Document appearing in the spooler (on winXP) and nothing else happens, anyone?
[12:52] <jirwin> Ng: That is Perfect!...thanks
[12:53] <jirwin> Ng: what do you think of my idea of forcing myself to learn everything from the console?
[12:53] <Ng> jirwin: only a little crazy ;)
[12:54] <Ng> jirwin: it should give you a decent understanding of how the system works if you poke around enough though
[12:54] <jirwin> aren't we all a little crazy though?
[12:54] <jirwin> that is what I hoped for
[12:54] <jirwin> one more question...is there a key binding for screen to move to the next screen...
[12:54] <jirwin> or do I have to detach and reattach?
 Well, i start up my PC , and boots from the cd where i burned the iso file...then something called Caldera DR-DOS starts up... <--- what cd exactly did u burn ?
[12:55] <shock> O_o
[12:57] <mpnw> i try to smbclient, then print from ubuntu to a printer (hp 3650) connected to winXP - all i get is Remote Downlevel Document appearing in the spooler (on winXP) and nothing else happens, anyone?
[01:03] <Mixut> Can anyone tell me how to make a disk bootable?
[01:06] <mpnw> wear it on your foot
[01:06] <mpnw> bootable for what purpose?
[01:07] <jbailey> Mixut: CD or Harddrive, and on what type of computer?
[01:07] <Mixut> floppy
[01:08] <Mixut> i know i'm a noob but they told me on another forum that i have to make a floppy bootable to use fdisk
[01:10] <EvolutionR> At wwww.Gnome-look.org, which one is the Coolest Icon Themes ?
[01:10] <shock> gnome-default
[01:10] <shock> ;)
[01:10] <EvolutionR> LOL @_0
[01:10] <shock> or keep searchin on google for xi-GNOME
[01:11] <shock> http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=16126
[01:11] <shock> oh its on gnome-look.org
[01:11] <shock> =)
[01:11] <shock> pretty nice
[01:11] <shock> but very... er... stylish
[01:12] <EvolutionR> shock: I've just saw the XI-Gnome well is kewl, u using it?
[01:12] <klaym> Clearlooks is good
[01:12] <shock> not anymore... preferring default right now
[01:13] <shock> since the new trash icon in ubuntu its.... nice and modest
[01:13] <shock> has a wonderfull "solid" feel to it... the default
[01:13] <shock> :)
[01:13] <EvolutionR> and I think another one is kewl over here http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=19775
[01:13] <klaym> yea and the mouse is modest
[01:13] <EvolutionR> Edge Icons!
[01:13] <arthur__> hi there...
[01:13] <EvolutionR> :)
[01:13] <shock> yeah
[01:13] <arthur__> I'm new to Ubuntu..
[01:14] <shock> but since I have white background in nautilus i dislike icons that are too bright
[01:14] <shock> welcome
[01:14] <shock> =)
[01:14] <jbailey> Mixut: The trick with a floppy on i386-class machines is usually to just dd it to the floppy.  It should start reading from track 0 and just go.
[01:14] <EvolutionR> I like Edge Icons it resemble more like Mac Icons!
[01:14] <arthur__> thank you shock.
[01:14] <shock> :)
[01:14] <jbailey> Mixut: What are you putting ont he floppy?
[01:15] <arthur__> shock, could you tell why you use Ubuntu and not other distro?
[01:15] <Mixut> umm..sry my english is bad, putting floppy on?
[01:15] <klaym> EvolutionR: after installing the Edge theme with fitting wallpaper, your monitor will become like a lightbulb
[01:15] <HrdwrBoB> Mixut: whoever told you to use fdisk on the floppy was probably smoking crack; fdisk works on partition tables and your floppy doesn't have one
[01:16] <EvolutionR> klaym: meaning too bright?
[01:16] <klaym> yes
[01:16] <shock> yes - great gnome support, great distro fro running on a powerbook, great community (unlike debian channels here u actually DO get help)
[01:16] <shock> :)
[01:16] <jbailey> Mixut: What are you trying to put on the floppy?
[01:16] <shock> several very good reasons
[01:16] <shock> never got the hang of YDL - its servers are too slow
[01:16] <jbailey> Mixut: Usually you have to boot software on there that is designed to boot the floppy.  (Linux loader or whatever).  The floppy is automatically bootable.
[01:17] <eruin> I so wish you could set the gnome panel window list to a percentage size
[01:17] <shock> and, arthur, U basically get a debian system (by far the best choice) with more focus on the "is good for daily use" ;)
[01:17] <eruin> gotta love debian
[01:17] <eruin> :)
 u say clear looks is good which url website?
[01:18] <arthur__> :-)
[01:18] <arthur__> nice reasons..
[01:18] <eruin> EvolutionR: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=19527
[01:18] <shock> well there are more
[01:18] <arthur__> have you ever tried gentoo?
[01:18] <shock> yes
[01:18] <arthur__> and what about it:
[01:19] <eruin> gentoo is great too, but compiling more than what I track svn isn't my cup of tea
[01:19] <eruin> :D
[01:19] <shock> gentoo is nice... but since i come from debian I am an apt-get update; apt-get upgrade addict
[01:19] <jbailey> Mixut: You need to give more information on what you're trying to do for me to help you.
[01:19] <Mixut> hmm...ok, i guess fdisk does'nt help then:(
[01:19] <EvolutionR> eruin : thanks found it
[01:19] <shock> and thats BAD when u are running gentoo
[01:19] <shock> *g*
[01:19] <eruin> shock: not a dist-upgrade addict?
[01:19] <Mixut> i'm trying to put fdisk program on floppy.
[01:19] <Tarumino> Hey. I have a problem. I'm trying to install an IDE for Python, but it requires the latest wxpython (2.5). Only 2.4 is available in the Ubuntu repositories
[01:19] <eruin> or "smart upgrade" as it's apparently dubbed these days
[01:20] <arthur__> I foud portage a great update tool, but like eruin said...
 shock: not a dist-upgrade addict? <--- ok ok ok... u caught me =)
[01:20] <shock> I used to run debian experimental =)
[01:20] <shock> *fg*
[01:20] <Tarumino> Anyone know where I can get the latest wx libraries from? I've tried compiling from source, but it won't see gtk (though gtk is installed)
[01:20] <EvolutionR> The clear looks ok...but how bout the My computer, trash can icons how is it look like? not look like the default gnome? <--bored!
[01:20] <arthur__> it has to compile the whole system..
[01:20] <eruin> Tarumino: libwxgtk2.5.3-python ?
[01:20] <eruin> that's in hoary
[01:20] <eruin> in addition to 2.4
[01:21] <Se7h> oh well
[01:21] <EvolutionR> eruin: The clear looks ok...but how bout the My computer, trash can icons how is it look like? not look like the default gnome? <--bored!
[01:21] <arthur__> but, shock, does apt-get get the latest stable packages?
[01:21] <Tarumino> eruin: I've got hoary
[01:21] <shock> apt-get installs what u got choosen as a repos
[01:21] <Tarumino> in my repositories list
[01:22] <shock> if u pick just warty - its the latest stable
[01:22] <arthur__> hum..
[01:22] <arthur__> I see..
[01:22] <Mixut> my problem is that i can't install windows because MBR is overwritten so if my windows install completes it monitors me these lines: Error loading operating system
[01:22] <arthur__> well, thank you guys.. I'll keep trying with it...
[01:22] <shock> if u pick hoary its ... well... something in between debian-testing and debian-experimental I'd categorize
[01:22] <shock> :P
[01:22] <arthur__> just divided about Ubuntu and gentooo..
[01:22] <arthur__> lol
[01:23] <umarmung> EvolutionR, clearlooks is a gtk-engine, it will not change your icons
[01:23] <arthur__> just a note: I believe gentoo is faster..
[01:23] <eruin> arthur__: they're both rock-solid imo.. you've just got to decide between source and binary
[01:23] <arthur__> if my opinion matters..
[01:23] <eruin> arthur__: and it is.. slightly
[01:23] <Tarumino> Though, it seems I only had it in as dbn-src, not the deb. Just changed, will see if helps
[01:23] <eruin> depending on your optimization flags and architecture
[01:23] <arthur__> Yes, I see..
[01:23] <EvolutionR> klaym: What if I installed the Edge Icons, I want to keep the icons unchange but only change the desktop wallpaper?
[01:23] <eruin> on my computer gentoo doesn't make much of a difference performance-wise
[01:24] <arthur__> why in YOUR computer?
[01:24] <eruin> but on my old it really was much faster than the debian I had installed
[01:24] <arthur__> which one is it?
[01:24] <eruin> it's a barton2500,512ddr400, etc
[01:24] <EvolutionR> eruin: I've heard when someone installed Gentoo I gonna take 2 days to compile it?
[01:24] <eruin> EvolutionR: never
[01:25] <EvolutionR> 1 day?
[01:25] <shock> depends on the system and what u install
[01:25] <eruin> EvolutionR: ~ 9 hours here
[01:25] <eruin> for a gnome desktop
[01:25] <EvolutionR> wow
[01:25] <Schaap> Ok ,how to i make samba service start at bootup?
[01:25] <EvolutionR> I am noob , that's too long for a newbie like me :( better stick with Ubuntu Hoary :P
[01:26] <EvolutionR> I fallen in love with apt-get !
[01:26] <Schaap> if you are a n00b, i wouldt advise a bet OS
[01:26] <eruin> EvolutionR: I'd recommend getting both and see what you prefer
[01:26] <Schaap> beta
[01:26] <eruin> my choice is hoary by far
[01:26] <HrdwrBoB> I would recommend leaving gentoo to masochists
[01:26] <arthur__> The point is I used Conectiva which used apt-get to manage rpms...
[01:26] <Schaap> And why is Hoary better then Warty?
[01:26] <EvolutionR> What if I installed the Edge Icons, I want to keep the icons unchange but only change the desktop wallpaper?
[01:26] <arthur__> I thought it was a great distro until I've found the others..
[01:26] <eruin> apt+rpm isn't quite apt+deb
[01:26] <eruin> ;>
[01:26] <arthur__> including Slack 10..
[01:27] <ClaudeA> shock, hey, back.. I found out how to do it
[01:27] <arthur__> the nowadays distros impressed me..
[01:27] <arthur__> most of them are great..
[01:27] <HrdwrBoB> eruin: apt-get is as good as your repository
[01:27] <arthur__> guys, one more question
[01:27] <eruin> I still managed to run into rpmhell with fc3
[01:27] <eruin> I'll bet that's more usererror than rpmerror though;)
[01:28] <arthur__> I am trying to decide which distro to use on a laptop..
[01:28] <eruin> ubuntu or fedora
[01:28] <EvolutionR> eruin: if use FC3 to apt-get update/install/remove, yum update/install/remove ...will make mess of the systems?
[01:28] <arthur__> gentoo, ubuntu or fedora core 3.
[01:28] <Schaap> any one willing to tell me the answer to my question?
[01:28] <ClaudeA> arthur__, ubuntu is one of the better distro's for the lap's methinks
[01:28] <eruin> EvolutionR: no
[01:29] <eruin> EvolutionR: only if you run the test releases :)
[01:29] <arthur__> what is methinks? sorry about the English..
[01:29] <EvolutionR> arthur__: if u want user friedly Distro, I suggest Suse Linux 9.2 Pro, or FC3
[01:29] <jbailey> Mixut: Hmm.  I don't know how to restore a windows MBR.  All the stuff I've done has been for restoring grub partitions.
[01:29] <ClaudeA> methinks = I think so
[01:29] <eruin> arthur__: I'd recommend going for ubuntu and upgrading to hoary
[01:29] <EvolutionR> OKIE
[01:29] <arthur__> EvolutionR, Ubuntu is a user friendly distro for me.
[01:30] <arthur__> what is hoary?
[01:30] <eruin> ubuntu is the most userfriendly distro imo
[01:30] <eruin> hoary is the next release of ubuntu
[01:30] <arthur__> jbailey, do you have any bootable floppy to go to windows?
[01:30] <eruin> aka development release.. think of it as debian sid with ubuntu patch-goodness ;)
[01:30] <jbailey> arthur__: I run on a powerpc box now. =)   So, no. =)
[01:30] <Mixut> (jbailey):ok then, thank's for helping anyway:)
[01:31] <arthur__> hum...
[01:31] <EvolutionR> arthur__: Yeah Ubuntu is friendly distro, hopefully it doesnt let u down at the moment....I quite like ubuntu Hoary but not warthy....I've used FC3, Suse 9.2 Pro, <---ok but Mandrake 10 . 1 <---is not good/ Crash often!
[01:31] <eruin> woot, I have clearlooks 0.1 and they've released 0.2.2?
[01:31] <arthur__> sorry, I believe I can't help.
[01:32] <arthur__> Evol, you can download Suse images?
[01:32] <arthur__> I never managed to get there..
[01:32] <EvolutionR> arthur__: u mean the iso?
[01:32] <arthur__> yes..
[01:32] <eruin> EvolutionR: mandrake has never been quite usable
[01:32] <EvolutionR> arthur__: if you want the Suse 9.2 Pro can....
[01:33] <EvolutionR> eruin: Mandrake 10.1 really sucks
[01:33] <EvolutionR> sorry to say that
[01:33] <EvolutionR> is true!
[01:33] <arthur__> eruin, Evol, that's interesting because here in Brazil Mandrake is the top download registered in a famous download site here.
[01:33] <arthur__> it seems new users like it very much..
[01:34] <eruin> that's because for some reason people keep recommending that, suse or fedora
[01:34] <arthur__> yes..
[01:34] <arthur__> I've downloaded Suse LiveEval CD
[01:34] <EvolutionR> arthur__: in Linux Format Magazine for January 2005 The Top Ten Distro is Mandrake because their're installation user friendly...etc / but not stable / crash!
[01:34] <arthur__> hum..
[01:35] <eruin> and that, along with the fact that most people just blindly recommend what they themselves use, gets you high numbers
[01:35] <arthur__> Suse seemed to be very interesting and robust..
[01:35] <EvolutionR> Mine I list the Top ten Distro???????? by Linux Format Mag?
[01:35] <EvolutionR> just few of them
[01:35] <eruin> I haven't used suse since 6.2 or something
[01:36] <TheX_> Hi guys; I got a short question ! Will ubuntu work smoothly on a system like : Pentium 166, 24 RAM, 2 GB HDD..
[01:36] <arthur__> I wanted to use Debian for its philosophy..
[01:36] <arthur__> but never liked it..
[01:36] <arthur__> like Woody
[01:36] <arthur__> and Sarge..
[01:36] <eruin> grmble permission denied...
[01:36] <arthur__> I've got Sarge installed here..
[01:36] <eruin> brb
[01:36] <EvolutionR> 1st Mandrake  2nd Redhat  3rd Suse  4th Debian 4th Yellow Dog 6th Gentoo  "9th Ubuntu"  <------
[01:37] <arthur__> this Ubuntu seems to put in a practice way the Debian's philosophy..
[01:37] <EvolutionR> ubuntu scores 9th place!
[01:37] <EvolutionR> Hopefully with the stable release will score to top 5
[01:37] <zeedo> EvolutionR: `thats excellent going for the age of the distro
[01:37] <William_Cain> I have came across something quite annoying.
[01:37] <thenuke> when was the hoary coming btw?
[01:38] <arthur__> and how can I upgrade to hoary to run on a laptop?
[01:38] <EvolutionR> zeedo: :)
[01:39] <thenuke> arthur__: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#upgradewartytohoary
[01:39] <TheX_> Hi guys; I got a short question ! Will ubuntu work smoothly on a system like : Pentium 166, 24 RAM, 2 GB HDD..
[01:39] <EvolutionR> arthur__ : change the /etc/apt/sources.list  change the work 'warthy' to hoary'  do a apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:39] <William_Cain> When I first installed Ubuntu, graphical operations like drawing the screen saver ran at about three frames per second. I then installed the fire-gl drivers, and everything ran excellent. Today, even though I still have the drivers, I get like three frames per second on the screen savers agaon...
[01:39] <eruin> TheX_: not if you're talking gnome desktop
[01:39] <arthur__> thank you the nuek.
[01:39] <arthur__> nuke*
[01:40] <TheX_> eruin, ithought about fluxbox
[01:40] <eruin> TheX_: that might work
[01:40] <William_Cain> I've even tried reinstalling them, which is quite a mess itself, because X won't start with uninstalled drivers, so I had to fumble around in the console not remembering the name of the drivers to install.
[01:40] <Tarumino> Thanks for the explanation of the Ubuntu repository system. Busy installing latest wx now.
[01:40] <arthur__> Hey TheX_
[01:40] <kayo> 9th is awesome for such a young distro, I hope it stays away from graphical intalls tough
[01:41] <arthur__> I've installed Slack 10 on a Pentium 100 24 ram 999mb HDD... running xfce4
[01:41] <eruin> graphical installs are the way to go
[01:41] <arthur__> it is slow like a sick cow..
[01:41] <eruin> as long as I can keep my cli, everything's ok
[01:41] <arthur__> fluxbox runs good..
[01:42] <thenuke> arthur__: :) If I may suggest, you could try damn small linux if you want to get best out of old pc's
[01:42] <eruin> yeh, a machine like that is about decent enough to run a bnc or something ;P
[01:42] <thenuke> arthur__: www.damnsmalllinux.org .. that uses also fluxbox
[01:42] <arthur__> does it has a good graphical environment or window manager?
[01:43] <TheX_> arthur__ ?
[01:43] <TheX_> oh ok,
[01:44] <arthur__> hey, thenuke, does it runs Firefox???
[01:44] <thenuke> arthur__: sure
[01:45] <arthur__> how could it be???
[01:45] <arthur__> impressive!
[01:45] <thenuke> but I think that you must download it separately
[01:45] <thenuke> from the damnsmallorg site
[01:46] <arthur__> I see..
[01:46] <arthur__> hey, have not configured my root password in Ubuntu..
[01:46] <thenuke> anyways, great distro, I have not yet found better for my p100-p200 machines
[01:46] <arthur__> is there a standart root passwd?
[01:46] <arthur__> thenuke, but does it run smootly?
[01:47] <thenuke> arthur__: nope, there is no root password, and you do not really need it but if you want to, you can have it
[01:47] <mpnw> i need help with printer sharing
[01:47] <thenuke> arthur__: on my comps atleast, yes, but I have more memory than you :I I have 64megs
[01:47] <arthur__> but how the security is maitained?
[01:47] <mpnw> anyone avaliable?
[01:47] <shock> anyone else here like "lock stock and..." ?
[01:47] <thenuke> arthur__: you can try it off the cd, and then install it to HD if you think you like it
[01:47] <shock> *g*
[01:48] <arthur__> sorry, about being boring with these questions, but does dsl runs on a p100 64mb like ubuntu runs in your main pc?
[01:48] <arthur__> my p100 does not boot from cd..
[01:48] <thenuke> arthur__: I don't know what you mean by maintaining security?  but if you need to do something as a root in ubuntu, you can use sudo <command>  or sudo -s -H to get root shell
[01:49] <William_Cain> Is 2.6.10 belonging to Hoary? I fiddled with the apt list and it appeared.
[01:49] <arthur__> but I asks my password thenuke
[01:49] <mpnw> hello... can someone help with printer sharing?
[01:49] <thenuke> arthur__: obviously ~3GHz / 512MB PC runs a bit faster than DSL on a p100 :)  but it is very usable on these p100 too
[01:50] <thenuke> firefox is a bit heavy browser though, opera is more lighter
[01:50] <mpnw> hello....
[01:50] <nevyn> ?
[01:50] <scizzo> firefox heavy?
[01:50] <arthur__> thenuke, I mean an analogy between dsl/p100 and ubuntu/your main pc.
[01:50] <scizzo> opera light?
[01:50] <arthur__> no dsl on your main pc..
[01:50] <thenuke> scizzo: yes, if you use it on p100
[01:50] <thenuke> scizzo: scizzo I have compared it to opera 6.12
[01:50] <fwiffo> William_Cain, yes Hoary runs 2.6.10 atm
[01:51] <mpnw> hello... can someone help with printer sharing?
[01:51] <nevyn> umm a p100 can flood any dsl connection availible.
[01:51] <arthur__> mpnw, what do you want?
[01:51] <arthur__> do you use cups?
[01:51] <mpnw> no smb
[01:51] <mpnw> trying to print to a windows printer
[01:52] <mpnw> if i try smbclient //winxpbox/printername
[01:52] <mpnw> then it connects
[01:52] <mpnw> and if i try print something
[01:52] <mpnw> then it comes up with
[01:52] <mpnw> Remote Downlevel Document
[01:52] <mpnw> appearing in the windows spooler
[01:52] <arthur__> hum...
[01:52] <thenuke> arthur__: well, I meant that you cant compare ubuntu or something on a highend PC  and some old crap hardware with lightweight os ;)
[01:52] <mpnw> and that locks up the whole printing
[01:52] <mpnw> (it wont print)
[01:52] <arthur__> I see..
[01:52] <mpnw> if i try and add the printer through the printer wizard
[01:52] <thenuke> highend pc will always be faster :P but DSL runs pretty smoothly still
[01:53] <arthur__> mpnw__ wait just a minute..
[01:53] <mpnw> it can't print wither
[01:53] <mpnw> okay
[01:53] <arthur__> HEY GUYS, ANYONE KNOW ABOUT PRINTER SHARING WITH SAMBA???
[01:53] <arthur__> I never done this before...
[01:53] <arthur__> It's urgent!
[01:54] <scizzo> arthur__: stop using upper case letters when doing that
[01:54] <fwiffo> mpnw, have you tried add
[01:54] <scizzo> we can see lower case letters also
[01:54] <fwiffo> mpnw, printer in gnome?
[01:54] <scizzo> could you put the printer configuration that samba is using on the net?
[01:55] <William_Cain> So... Will running 2.6.10 imply that I'm running Hoary?
[01:55] <will> how can i check out swap file usage
[01:56] <William_Cain> Is that everything I have to do to 'upgrade'?
[01:56] <fwiffo> William_Cain, no
[01:56] <arthur__> scizzo, sorry about that. Mpnw has the problem..
[01:56] <scizzo> William_Cain: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GuideToHoary
[01:56] <arthur__> and he is asking that continously, and I can't help..
[01:56] <fwiffo> William_Cain, check the wiki, there is a guide to upgrading
[01:56] <mpnw> add??
[01:56] <arthur__> I really thought no one was paying attention to him.
[01:56] <arthur__> mpnw, could you talk to scizzo?
[01:56] <arthur__> scizzo, could you help him?
[01:57] <Twentyone> hop
[01:57] <scizzo> mpnw: could you do what I asked before?
[01:57] <fwiffo> William_Cain, however, remember that Hoary is still in development and is not completely stable
[01:57] <William_Cain> I'm just testing.
[01:58] <William_Cain> Thanks a lot for the info.
[01:58] <arthur__> guys.. it was a real pleasure to know you really are active here..
[01:59] <arthur__> thank you a lot..
[01:59] <scizzo> mpnw: not in private
[01:59] <arthur__> and once more, scizzo, sorry, for that.
[01:59] <arthur__> see you..
[01:59] <tabmoW> when i boot the install cd on my laptop the screen constantly flashes, anyway to fix this?
[01:59] <scizzo> mpnw: just put the section that has the printer stuff configured on a site or something and then tell us the address
[02:01] <Rake`> hey people - I'm having a problem with synaptic - the space where the list of packages is shown is empty, though it says it's displaying them. anyone know what i broke now?
[02:04] <terry> whats the repository for ubuntu universe?? Is that what they call it??
[02:05] <mpnw> ok
[02:06] <fwiffo> Rake`, have you chosen Sections + All in the left part of the window?
[02:07] <Rake`> Yep.
[02:07] <William_Cain> I'm having problems with slow drawing of graphics. I have a Radeon 9700 card.
[02:07] <fwiffo> Rake`, refreshed your package list?
[02:07] <Rake`> Yep.
[02:07] <Rake`> I see a big white nothing.
[02:08] <fwiffo> Rake`, and it refreshes your repositories properly?
[02:08] <William_Cain> I have installed the proper drivers, and it worked well at first, but suddenly things went slow again
[02:08] <Rake`> I believe so, yes
[02:08] <William_Cain> .*
[02:08] <fwiffo> Rake`, what happens when refreshing?
[02:09] <Rake`> Downloads / compares lists or whatever it does, window closes, statusbar says "Building dependancy tree" then it goes back to how it was
[02:11] <flosch> hi
[02:11] <fwiffo> Rake`, are you sure you have your repositories set up properly?
[02:12] <Rake`> It updates from them without error
[02:13] <Rake`> I can do a search and it'll say for instance, "17 packages listed" ... so I think the list of packages is fine. it just doesnt display them for some odd reason.
[02:13] <fwiffo> ok, that seems odd yes
[02:14] <Rake`> keep in mind im a linux idiot and i probably broke something.
[02:14] <fwiffo> Rake`, perhaps some filter is enabled
[02:14] <Rake`> Last time it worked i was trying to install some packages relating to samba/smb.
[02:15] <Rake`> Hmm ..
[02:16] <fwiffo> Rake`, how about if you choose Status + Not Installed?
[02:17] <Rake`> im not sure how to sue these filters, though i havnt played with them before
[02:18] <Rake`> should i just delete the filters, or?
[02:19] <BenZor> anyone here know of some software for windows than can read ext3?
[02:20] <peca> BenZor: uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/explore2fs.htm
[02:20] <BenZor> ta
[02:21] <peca> or uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/ext2ifs.htm
[02:21] <fwiffo> Rake`, no no, just press the Status button in the bottom left
[02:21] <fwiffo> Rake`, and then choose Not Installed in the left part of the window
[02:23] <Linforcer> Hey, a friend of mine just installed ubuntu, and he was wondering how he could get his cheap-O brand tablet to work. Anyone have any cleus? All I can find about is wacom.:(
[02:24] <Rake`> fwiffo - stil nothing
[02:24] <ZellSF> Can anyone help me? I need to auto mount my USB harddisk on startup...
[02:24] <BenZor> Rake`- omg irc.!
[02:24] <DaRyN> my system keeps hanging on Starting hotplug subsystem, any ideas?
[02:24] <Rake`> BenZor - omg irc.!
[02:24] <fwiffo> Rake`, ok, then I have no idea what it might be
[02:25] <ZellSF> ...?
[02:25] <Rake`> like i said, synaptic says how many packages are being displayed according to the filters and such .... just doesnt show the list. nor is there any of the top boxes which say 'Package name' etc
[02:26] <fwiffo> Rake`, ok :/
[02:26] <Rake`> hmm, thanks anyway
[02:26] <mpnw> http://dave.ozweb.nu/printer/
[02:27] <mpnw> is my problem
[02:27] <mpnw> can anyone help?
[02:27] <aquarius> I have a box running a not-very-frequently-updated Debian testing; it has mostly not been updated since about June 2004, but a few packages have been installed since then. Can I upgrade it to warty with the Ubuntu CD?
[02:28] <ZellSF> I have a problem with my external USB harddisk, /dev/sda1 isn't created before I plug it out and back in again :(
[02:28] <ZellSF> Is there a way to fix that?
[02:30] <mpnw> http://dave.ozweb.nu/printer/
[02:30] <mpnw> anyone?
[02:31] <Tarumino> *sigh* Ok, I've got the latest wxPython, but it's in the python2.4 site-packages, and python2.3 is the default at the moment
[02:31] <mpnw> printer problem, need assistance:  http://dave.ozweb.nu/printer/
[02:31] <mpnw> please:)
[02:32] <ZellSF> mpnw: is Windows sharing the printer?
[02:32] <Tarumino> How do I change what happens when I type "python" at the command prompt
[02:32] <mpnw> yes
[02:32] <ZellSF> hmm, and the "guest" user of Windows is enabled?
[02:32] <Tarumino> (from loading python2.3 to loading python2.4: both are installed)
[02:32] <ZellSF> (or might as well ask, can you connect to your printer from another Windows computer?)
[02:32] <mpnw> yes
[02:32] <mpnw> that works fine
[02:33] <mpnw> im not sure about "guest" tho
[02:33] <scizzo> mpnw: I thought you where trying to share it from samba?
[02:33] <mpnw> i have "everyone"
[02:33] <ZellSF> And you've installed all the Samba client stuff...?
[02:33] <mpnw> no... using samba to access it
[02:33] <mpnw> yes
[02:33] <mpnw> file sharing works fine
[02:33] <scizzo> GAH!
[02:34] <ZellSF> so, you can connect to a Windows shared directoy?
[02:34] <ZellSF> *directory
[02:34] <spiral> does anyone here know if the testing version of OOO2 will be updated in hoary ?
[02:35] <mpnw> yes
[02:35] <mpnw> connect to a shared directory
[02:35] <mpnw> can even connect to the printer through smbclient (as the site says)
[02:35] <mpnw> but that shows up that annoying undeletable document
[02:36] <ZellSF> That's... weird :/
[02:36] <ZellSF> Tried turning Windows firewall off? :P
[02:36] <mpnw> yes
[02:36] <mpnw> didnt do anything
[02:36] <mpnw> same prob with it on and off
[02:37] <ZellSF> hmm. *Hate* Synaptic Package Manager
[02:37] <nevyn> oh?
[02:37] <ZellSF> I try to uninstall Totem, and it uninstalls Gnome :/
[02:37] <ZellSF> Or not Gnome, but the ubuntu desktop :/
[02:38] <gabaug> anybody else get "Error: failed to initialize HAL!" on login to Gnome on Hoary?
[02:38] <nevyn> ubuntu-desktop depends on totem
[02:38] <ZellSF> Yes, but I want do install the *xine* version of Totem :/
[02:38] <ZellSF> Because Totem can't open files :/
[02:39] <gabaug> ZellSF: I don't think it'll really hurt you too much not to have ubuntu-desktop installed, you'll just miss out on a little of it's meta goodness
[02:39] <SuSE|UsER> Hello, where can i find libcrypto.dylib?
[02:39] <ZellSF> Why can't Totem play files? :/
[02:39] <linux_mafia> anyone else using hoary had devices dissapear from "places -> computer"?
[02:40] <SuSE|UsER> ZellSF, you need w32 codecs
[02:40] <gabaug> linux_mafia: yeah, they used to auto show when plugged in (two diff. usb drives) ... are you getting a HAL error on Gnome login?
[02:40] <ZellSF> And what is the package name for those?
[02:41] <SuSE|UsER> w32codecs <- ;)
[02:41] <linux_mafia> gabaug, nah my dvdrom and burner not showing up anymore, device manager is not working, although i have no error on login
[02:41] <SuSE|UsER> ZellSF, add this to your repository : ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ stable main
[02:42] <ZellSF> both deb and deb-src ?
[02:42] <linux_mafia> gabaug, i think its this line from my dmesg : PCI: Using ACPI for IRQ routing
[02:42] <SuSE|UsER> ZellSF, only deb
[02:43] <ZellSF> Ok... trying that now
 I have a problem with my external USB harddisk, /dev/sda1 isn't created before I plug it out and back in again :(
[02:44] <ZellSF> Anyone?
[02:44] <mpnw> http://dave.ozweb.nu/printer/smb.conf
[02:44] <mpnw> is the samba config
[02:45] <ZellSF> if you have problems connecting to another server, I don't think your server config matters much :/
[02:45] <mpnw> umm
[02:45] <mpnw> what do i need then?
[02:45] <mpnw> what do u need then?
[02:46] <ZellSF> I don't know, I probably can't help you anyways. I know nothing about ubuntu :/
[02:46] <mpnw> scizzo?
[02:49] <SuSE|UsER> Maybe someone know where can i find libcrypto.dylib?
[02:51] <website> SuSE|UsER, i don't know, but if you use ubuntu open the repo to universe and search it with aptitude or sinaptic
[02:52] <aquarius> Can I use the warty release CD to upgrade a Debian testing box directly to warty?
[02:52] <mlambie> I'm looking at replacing the last windows machine in my house with Ubuntu (I already use it on my laptop, and g/friends desktop). This machine runs a java bit torrent client. I currently use VNC to connect, add any torrents, and disconnect. Does a linux VNC server offer the same capabailities as the windows server? Or can I use XDMCP (this appears to kill any open apps when i log out, as you'd expect)
[02:52] <aquarius> mlambie: yes. See x11vnc.
[02:52] <snowblink> hi - want to figure out if this is just me or a thunderbird issue. Anyone using thunderbird got a minute?
[02:52] <mlambie> aquarius: thanks for the pointer
[02:53] <SuSE|UsER> website, of course im using Ubuntu but there are no such package
[02:53] <website> SuSE|UsER, have you opened your repo to universe section?
[02:53] <aquarius> mlambie: there's also vino, a VNC server for gnome, which might be even better.
[02:54] <tritium> just what I was about to suggest
[02:54] <mlambie> aquarius: thanks (again) :)
[02:54] <SuSE|UsER> website, of course i did it , i'm not such big newbie ;)
[02:54] <website> is it enought that i run "dpkg-reconfigure locale" and set locales to change language to my ubuntu?
[02:54] <maggi> act 1
[02:54] <mpnw> Paused: ERRDOS - ERRbadaccess (Invalid open mode.) opening remote file Test Page
[02:54] <mpnw> im now getting that
[02:55] <mpnw> when printing test page
[02:55] <website> SuSE|UsER, if you don't find it try using google, i don't know anything about it
[02:55] <SuSE|UsER> website, i'm trying :)
[02:56] <mlambie> does anyone know how to enable XDMCP in the login chooser? I am sure I've seen it before, but it's not ther ein the session windows anymore for me
[02:56] <maggi> !help
[02:56] <maggi> exit
[02:57] <mlambie> i have enabled XDMCP on the target machine, and can connect with xnest, but i don't get an XDMCP option from the login screen
[02:58] <a-x-e-l> hye all, Is anyone have already install Ubuntu 4.10 on a Compaq Armada 1592DT ?
[02:58] <SuSE|UsER> mlambie, i founded XDMCP option in login screen setup
[02:59] <Falstius> what does acpi=off apm=off really do?  Obviously some of these functions still work (power off) so what is turned off?
[03:00] <Schaap> Hi, where can i find more information about the packages?
[03:00] <Schaap> becuase i installed phpbb and the phpbb2-conf-mysql thing
[03:00] <Schaap> but id like to know tha password
[03:00] <Schaap> the
[03:00] <tritium> mlambie, did you use "Login Screen Setup"?
[03:00] <Schaap> cant be found in the documentation deliverd with it
[03:01] <SuSE|UsER> Ok libcrypto.dylib is in libssl-dev package :D
[03:01] <tritium> mlambie, under Security tab, is "Allow running XDMCP chooser from the login screen" checked?
[03:03] <[S] pick> anyone know how to get sound working in flash?????!?!?!
[03:03] <snowblink> never mind. It was a rogue samba mount causing hassle...
[03:03] <[S] pick> FLASH + SOUND = Help...
[03:03] <mpnw> i guess noone can help me with my problem
[03:04] <[S] pick> woot radeon 9600xt working in ubuntu... alont with realtek audio.. but no sound in FLASH!! so help!
[03:04] <SuSE|UsER> mpnw, if nobody can help you here try post your problem on forum www.ubuntuforums.org ;)
[03:04] <website> [S] pick, look to the configuration of you browser
[03:04] <[S] pick> where at?
 I have a problem with my external USB harddisk, /dev/sda1 isn't created before I plug it out and back in again :(
[03:04] <website> mpnw, problem?
[03:04] <ZellSF> Anyone? :(
[03:05] <scizzo> mpnw: if the access to the printer is access denied then you should start to look at the server that is sharing the printer
[03:05] <website> ZellSF, put it on and it is automounted
[03:05] <ZellSF> website: eh, what do you mean?
[03:05] <[S] pick> i'm using firefox.. i have a realtek sound.. flash works.. but tiwhout sound...
[03:05] <[S] pick> i got sound working in stuff like Enemy territory... and i can play music and movies.. etc..
[03:05] <website> ZellSF, link your pen to usb device, and it will work
[03:05] <snowblink> [S] pick: do you have any other things using the sound card at the same time?
[03:06] <[S] pick> no
[03:06] <ZellSF> Link *what* to usb device? And how do I do that? :/
[03:06] <snowblink> [S] pick: try stopping ESD
[03:06] <[S] pick> ESD =??
[03:06] <website> ZellSF, are you using gnome?
[03:06] <ZellSF> Enlgihtment Sound Daemon
[03:06] <ZellSF> Yes, I'm using Gnome
[03:06] <[S] pick> ah
[03:07] <website> ok so get you usb harddrive
[03:07] <[S] pick> so run off just alsa?
[03:07] <website> and plug it with an usb cable
[03:07] <ZellSF> yes, I've done that.
[03:07] <ZellSF> I don't want to plug it out and in again just for Linx to add it to /dev/
[03:07] <website> and then your harddrive will be detected (by hotplug) linked (by udev) and mounted
[03:08] <ZellSF> Yes, it is, but when I restart I have to replugin my USB drive, because it isn't in /dev/ anymore
[03:08] <[S] pick> best way to disable and re-enable ESD is?
[03:08] <ZellSF> which is kind of irritating :(
[03:08] <ZellSF> Any ideas website`?
[03:09] <Falstius> ZellSF, if your problem that you can't read it when you first plug it in, or you want to do something fancy with /dev/sda1 during boot?
[03:09] <website> as i know (it can be wrong) udev organize /dev and creates links accordind to hotplug
[03:09] <website> you harddrive should be detected when you will reeboot
[03:09] <website> and linked again
[03:09] <ZellSF> Falstius: I want it to automatically mount
[03:09] <website> automatically
[03:09] <ZellSF> but it isn't added to /dev/ before I plug it out and in again.
[03:10] <ZellSF> ...?
[03:10] <[S] pick> oh.. i have another problem..  i have this network mount in samba.. to my windows pc.. it work when i start up.. and i can play music off it etc.. but it stops working after a while..
[03:10] <ZellSF> Any suggestions on how to fix that?
[03:11] <Falstius> Zell, sounds like it isn't being recognized the first time you plug it in ... maybe you don't leave it in long enough
[03:11] <website> ZellSF, i can't help you since when i plug my usb pen and reebot it is seen by hotplug and relinked
[03:11] <ZellSF> Well, after I restart, I fully start Gnome
[03:11] <ZellSF> Still no sign of sda1
[03:11] <ZellSF> I have to reinsert the usb cable for it to work :/
[03:12] <Falstius> Zell, have you checked dmesg for errors?
[03:12] <ZellSF> No
[03:12] <ZellSF> That in /var/log ?
[03:12] <Falstius> Zell, just sudo dmesg
[03:12] <website> ZellSF, my usb is detected at boot time
[03:13] <[S] pick> i followinstruction from ubuntu site on setting up samba.. i did it.. and created a mount to a folder on my windows pc.. i can play music off it for a while.. but it just stops working.. and when i try to access it again..  nopthing pops up in the folder view of the mount
[03:13] <ZellSF> I can't see any obvious errors...
[03:14] <[S] pick> i can acess the share otherwise and move files to ubuntu pc.. then play them.. but i want the moujnt to always work..
[03:14] <Boohbah> can i get an ubuntu iso image in a torrent?
[03:14] <ZellSF> yes
[03:14] <Falstius> Zell, after a reboot, plug in your usb device and then do it.  That way any messages about the usb are at the end.
[03:14] <ZellSF> you can download torrents from the main page
[03:15] <ZellSF> usb messages are at end now
[03:15] <ZellSF> scsi2 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices
[03:15] <ZellSF>   Vendor: ST94811A  Model:                   Rev: 3.05
[03:15] <ZellSF>   Type:   Direct-Access                      ANSI SCSI revision: 02
[03:15] <ZellSF> SCSI device sda: 78140161 512-byte hdwr sectors (40008 MB)
[03:15] <ZellSF> sda: assuming drive cache: write through
[03:15] <ZellSF>  /dev/scsi/host2/bus0/target0/lun0: p1
[03:15] <ZellSF> Attached scsi disk sda at scsi2, channel 0, id 0, lun 0
[03:15] <ZellSF> USB Mass Storage device found at 3
[03:15] <ZellSF> Anything seems wrong there?
[03:17] <ZellSF> the problem really isn't with the device itself, it works fine, but it isn't added to /dev/ before I reinsert the USB cable.
[03:17] <ZellSF> So no automounts at all  :(
[03:17] <nevyn> ummm.. that should just work out of the box.
[03:17] <ZellSF> It doesn't work.
[03:18] <nevyn> it's not automount's problem btw.
[03:18] <nevyn> it's hotplug's
[03:18] <ZellSF> Yeah, I figured something like that, but any idea how to *fix* it?
[03:18] <nevyn> ZellSF: it doesn't just appear in computer?
[03:18] <thully> hi - I recently saw some openoffice.org2 packages in Hoary - is a working snapshot of OO.o 2 in Hoary, or just parts of one?
[03:19] <ZellSF> nevyn: it does, after I reinsert the USB cable
[03:19] <ZellSF> disabling any sort of automatic mounting.
[03:19] <SuSE|UsER> thully, OOo2 works in Hoary
[03:19] <nevyn> hangon so you're trying to setup automount. for something that works without automount?
[03:20] <ZellSF> It does *work*, but it doesn't automatically work, I have to reinsert the USB cable to find it :/
[03:20] <nevyn> ok it doesn't work if the device is plugged in at boot time?
[03:20] <ZellSF> Exactly
[03:21] <thully> is it the default or is OO.o 1.1.3 still the default?
[03:21] <ZellSF> Any way to do anything about that?
[03:21] <[S] pick> cant you just run a command when you need it?
[03:21] <[S] pick> or are you really that lazy?
[03:21] <ZellSF> Well, it does work if the device is plugged in at boot time, but I have to reinsert the USB cable
[03:21] <nevyn> [S] pick: that's not the point.
[03:21] <ZellSF> [S] pick: yes, I'm really, really lazy.
[03:22] <ZellSF> That, and it really annoys me when stuff doesn't work as it's supposed to
[03:22] <[S] pick> lol
[03:22] <nevyn> ZellSF: no that means that the behavior is different when hotplugd runs at boot to when hotplugd runs on a actual hotplugging of a device that's wrong.
[03:22] <haggai> thully: 113 is still the default
[03:22] <haggai> thully: openoffice.org2 is in universe
[03:22] <ZellSF> nevyn: is there anything to do about that?
[03:22] <[S] pick> isn't there a way to restart hotplug automatically
[03:22] <[S] pick> ?
[03:23] <tritium> /etc/init.d/hotplug restart
[03:23] <thully> will oo.o 2.0 be the default in hoary final if it is released in time?
[03:24] <ZellSF> yes, but I don't want to restart hotplug at each restart either :/
[03:24] <[S] pick> make an icon :/
[03:24] <[S] pick> or have it autoload
[03:24] <[S] pick> and the command run easily when you need it
[03:24] <nevyn> ZellSF: why not. if that solves it that'd be fine
[03:24] <[S] pick> a 1 letter script or something
[03:24] <[S] pick> lmfao
[03:24] <ZellSF> oh...
[03:24] <ZellSF> SCSI errors
[03:24] <ZellSF> I/O erros
[03:24] <ZellSF> *errors
[03:24] <nevyn> bleh
[03:24] <ZellSF> nice.
[03:25] <nevyn> probably just a dodgy connector.
[03:25] <[S] pick> lol
[03:25] <nevyn> there's no actual scsi controller on a usb block device so.. you know.
[03:25] <[S] pick> my firend plugged his laptop drive enclosure to my pc through usb no prob...
[03:25] <[S] pick> wasnt exactly a brand name one either..
[03:26] <simon> hi, I installed ubuntu yesterday and now i just noticed i cant boot in to osx. I have checked the yabbot.conf and that is fine. I'm using a dual 2x2 G5
[03:26] <[S] pick> are you sure you didnt overwrite os X?
[03:26] <simon> yes :)
[03:26] <[S] pick> lol
[03:26] <simon> i pulled the second HD
[03:26] <[S] pick> ;)
[03:26] <simon> and osx booted fine
[03:26] <[S] pick> i love my g-FO
[03:26] <ZellSF> hmm, any more suggestions what I can do?
[03:27] <Schaap> becuase i installed phpbb and the phpbb2-conf-mysql thing, but what is the default login/password?
[03:27] <ZellSF> or at least a way to automatically do a restart of hotplug at restart to see if that works?
[03:27] <[S] pick> cron?
[03:28] <nevyn> hrm what happens if you have a service symlinked multiple times in /etc/rc2.d/?
[03:28] <ZellSF> I have no idea how to use that.
[03:28] <[S] pick> ibm.com/developerworks
[03:28] <ZellSF> nevyn: I don't know :/
[03:28] <[S] pick> cron can execute that..
[03:28] <website> nevyn, it is executed many times
[03:28] <nevyn> cron is a bad idea.
[03:28] <simon> do anyone here succesfully dualboot osx from a second HD on a g5?
[03:28] <nevyn> website: excellent
[03:28] <website> as how may files have in your dir
[03:28] <nevyn> only as many as you specified. right?
[03:28] <website> yes
[03:28] <[S] pick> what if you linked the hotplug restart to x-server quit? so ctrl-alt-bacspace
[03:29] <shock> m00h
[03:29] <[S] pick> remounts your drive
[03:29] <[S] pick> ?
[03:29] <ZellSF> [S] pick: Why would I want to kill the x-server to restart hotplug? :/
[03:29] <[S] pick> lmfao
[03:29] <[S] pick> simple
[03:29] <[S] pick> lmfao
[03:30] <nevyn> that'd be dumb.
[03:30] <[S] pick> i know
[03:30] <asdfasdfasdf> Hello, I have working dlink network card, (it works in win98) but now I have installed Ubuntu Linux and internet wont work, how/where I can set it up?
[03:30] <[S] pick> it was supposed to be
[03:30] <nevyn> you could just move the simlink for hotplug to be later.
[03:30] <nevyn> I suspect it is starting before filesystems are r/w or something
[03:31] <snowblink> asdfasdfasdf: you may need ndiswrapper
[03:31] <asdfasdfasdf> Whats that?
[03:31] <snowblink> snowblink: it wraps up a windows driver for use in linux
[03:31] <ZellSF> nevyn: I do get some hotplug errors about that :/
[03:31] <snowblink> asdfasdfasdf: it wraps up a windows driver for use in linux
[03:31] <otroean> HI. I'm downloading Ubunto 4.10 because my Libranet crashed. Can i just install the Ubuntu over Libranet?
[03:31] <ZellSF> But I thought that was normal :/
[03:32] <Schaap> is my question that impossible :(
[03:32] <bigbubba> anyone here have experience with vmware, i'm curious how do you get it to use your current internet connection? do i have to install the real drive on windows xp in vmware? or how does that work
[03:32] <ZellSF> So, nevyn, how do I move the simlink for hotplug? :/
[03:32] <simon> anyone know a irc channel for yaboot?
[03:34] <ZellSF> ...?
[03:35] <ZellSF> nevyn...?
[03:38] <tezem> Is there a way to get also the 32bit repos with the amd64 version of ubuntu?
[03:41] <mjr> tezem, only in a separate chroot
[03:41] <mjr> multiarch support will come Someday
[03:41] <shock> ok - advanced question: how do I reset evolution to 0 without removing .gconf*
[03:42] <|m0rph|> hello !
[03:42] <|m0rph|> i'm need some printer support ..
[03:43] <bigbubba> anyone have an idea about vmware as i mentioned?
[03:44] <ZellSF> "scsi5 (0:0): rejecting I/O to dead device
[03:44] <ZellSF> FAT: Directory bread(block 19114) failed"
[03:45] <ZellSF> Any ideas?
[03:45] <arthur__> hey, guys.. I have problems mounting vfat floppies and trying to access them with OpenOffice Writer..
[03:45] <arthur__> any idea?
[03:46] <tezem> mjr: ok thx do you know if it's simple to switch from amd64 to normal x86?
[03:46] <tezem> or is a complete newinstall needed?
[03:47] <Lathiat> Has anyone else noticed a *big* slowdown in start-time for gnome in hoary within the last couple weeks?
[03:48] <|m0rph|> anyone has a printer shared by samba ?
[03:48] <ZellSF> sigh...
[03:48] <shock> no - I rarely restart gnome :P
[03:48] <tuxJr_14> hi
[03:48] <shock> nope... am using CUPS for my printers
[03:48] <shock> hoi tux
[03:49] <|m0rph|> the printer manager just quits , it think it is a bug ..
[03:49] <tuxJr_14> hi shock
[03:50] <shock> er.... question: balckbox broken for anyone else @ hoary-powerpc
[03:51] <|m0rph|> what is the url sintax for the printer in CUPS ?
[03:52] <Falstius> |m0rph|: smb://user:password@printer.cern/printername
[03:52] <tritium> Wow, http://www.no-name-yet.com still resolves.
[03:56] <Falstius> oh, and for the samba password you can't use some characters (! for one)
[03:57] <ZellSF> Ok... So, when I restart hotplug, it works fine :/ ...
[03:57] <sirukin> hmm
[03:57] <nevyn> ZellSF: so it's just bits being not yet mounted or whatever.
[03:57] <sirukin> hey guys
[03:57] <nevyn> can you send restart from init?
[03:57] <sirukin> how would I go about setting up internet connection sharing with ubuntu?
[03:57] <ZellSF> nevyn: no idea. Hotplug still refuses to work at startup :(
[03:58] <ZellSF> Send restart from init? what do you mean?
[03:58] <nevyn> ZellSF: but if you do /etc/init.d/hotplug restart it works?
[03:58] <ZellSF> yes
[03:58] <nevyn> ok.
[03:58] <ZellSF> but not when starting the computer :/
[03:58] <nevyn> ZellSF: what do you think happens when the computer starts?
[03:58] <sirukin> hmm
[03:58] <ZellSF> Eh, with hotplug or what?
[03:58] <nevyn> that script is one of the ones that get's run.
[03:59] <ZellSF> yeah. and so?
[03:59] <nevyn> it's just being run too early before some other bit of the system is initialised
[03:59] <nevyn> so change when it runs
[03:59] <ZellSF> Yes, but you disappeared when I was asking you *how* to fix that :/
[03:59] <ZellSF> ...?
[03:59] <sirukin> anyone?
[04:00] <nevyn> ZellSF: mv /etc/rc2.d/Snnhotplugd /etc/rc2.d/Syyhotplugd
[04:00] <nevyn> where nn is the orriginal execution priority and yy is the new priority
[04:00] <ZellSF> mv: cannot stat `/etc/rc2.d/Snnhotplugd'
[04:01] <ZellSF> oh
[04:01] <ZellSF> I see, what do I change the priority to?
[04:01] <nevyn> ZellSF: assuming ubuntu havn't changed it too much it's actually /etc/rcS.d/S40hotplugd
[04:01] <zygan> hi...i'm fairly new to linux, and i'm trying to compile postgresql 8 and i keep getting a "readline not found error", realine is installed according to apt-get...anyone know what i can do to fix it?
[04:01] <lifeless> install readline-de
[04:01] <lifeless> v
[04:01] <nevyn> ZellSF: does /etc/init.d/hotplug start also fix the problem or do you need restart?
[04:02] <sirukin> hmm
[04:02] <ZellSF> eh, good question, I'd have to restart to check that :/
[04:02] <nevyn> hrm looks like start will do.
[04:02] <nevyn> ZellSF: just do this.
[04:02] <sirukin> share my internet from my dial-up computer?
[04:02] <ZellSF> nevyn: do what?
[04:02] <nevyn> ZellSF: cp /etc/rcS.d/S40hotplug /etc/rcS.d/S99hotplug
[04:02] <otroean> Hi. I've installed Libranet 2.81, but i want to install ubuntu. Is it just to overwrite the Libranet installation?
[04:03] <nevyn> that makes hotplug run at 40 for anything that needs it to be then and last of all
[04:03] <tritium> otroean, you can overwrite it if you want to
[04:03] <sirukin> exit
[04:03] <sirukin> exit
[04:04] <otroean> thnx
[04:07] <ZellSF> didn't work :/
[04:08] <ZellSF> which directory was it again?
[04:08] <nevyn> ZellSF: tell me when automount starts?
[04:08] <ZellSF> automount?
[04:08] <ZellSF> Dunno :/
[04:08] <nevyn> ok.. stuff in /etc/rcS.d is executed according to numeric priority
[04:09] <seth_> wxPython isn't at the repository is it ?
[04:09] <nevyn> then stuff in /etc/rc2.d is executed according to numeric priority
[04:09] <ZellSF> and what is the automount file named?
[04:09] <nevyn> umm
[04:09] <nevyn> S??automount
[04:09] <nevyn> it's in one of either /etc/rc2.d or /etc/rcS.d
[04:10] <M3ta> You mean, rc2.d if you don't mess with your inittab to change your runlevel :)
[04:10] <nevyn> ZellSF: just sudo mv /etc/rcS.d/S99hotplug /etc/rc2.d/S99hotplug
[04:10] <ZellSF> Can't find it :/
[04:10] <nevyn> M3ta: given ZellSF's current understanding of init I'm assuming he hasn't done that.
[04:11] <nevyn> bah I just blew away my ubuntu system and installed sid again.
[04:11] <oly> just a quick question, when accessing windows shares i get asked for passwords in samba but not any set
[04:11] <ZellSF> /etc/rcS.d/s99hotplug': No such file or directory
[04:11] <ZellSF> O_o
[04:11] <tritium> nevyn, :(
[04:11] <oly> so what should i type to access the shares, or why is it even asking me
[04:11] <nevyn> tritium: ubuntu annoyed me.
[04:12] <nevyn> gnome 2.8 annoyed me a lot.
[04:12] <ZellSF> oly: because the folder you're trying to connect isn't set as a public folder :/
[04:12] <nevyn> and my wife hated it.
[04:12] <Lathiat> my mum loves it
[04:12] <tritium> isn't gnome 2.8 in sid?
[04:12] <oly> but if i access it on another windows machine it does not ask for a password or user
[04:12] <M3ta> Funny, heh, I installed Ubuntu on my laptop because i wanted Gnome 2.8. To each his own :)
[04:13] <Boohbah> tritium: but who would ever use debian?
[04:13] <tritium> M3ta, yeah, me too.  I found out about ubuntu from hanging out in #gnome-debian
[04:13] <tritium> Boohbah, nevyn does
[04:15] <Se7h> o.0
[04:15] <Se7h> wxPython isn't at the repository is it ?
[04:15] <oly> the windows machines are set up using simple sharing, and definately have no username or password account
[04:15] <oly> but it still asks
 tritium: but who would ever use debian? <-- me
[04:16] <shock> used it happily for 5 years the least
[04:16] <oly> i tried entering my windows username, with no password but that does not seem to work
[04:16] <nevyn> the only thing that would interest me in ubuntu at this point is if I needed commercial backup support for something
[04:16] <Boohbah> i would probably use debian too if i needed a binary distro for an old server...
[04:16] <nevyn> oly: try guest with no password
[04:16] <tritium> I still have sid on a few machines
[04:16] <oly> the windows machine do not even have passwords to login and use them
[04:17] <oly> okay will try
[04:17] <tritium> for now...
[04:18] <M3ta> nevyn: Maybe you can tell me something, please. I got a sarge, but i really want to test the unstable stuff. Is sid comparable to ubuntu, in 'unstable packages versions'? I mean, is Gnome 2.9 on sid too, for example?
[04:18] <oly> nope, its poped up and asked for a password again
[04:18] <nevyn> M3ta: you need to understand that unstable refers to the packaging not the software
[04:18] <M3ta> I know. that's why i stated it as en example. :)
[04:19] <M3ta> *an
[04:19] <code> how do get rid of the old irefox after upgrading it?
[04:19] <code> firefox*
[04:19] <wezzer> via synaptic?
[04:20] <Guardiann> good morning everyone
[04:20] <nevyn> M3ta: the current gnome in sid is 2.8
[04:20] <code> i see
[04:20] <code> i didnt know thats what that was
[04:20] <code> thank you
[04:20] <M3ta> Hmm good enough, time to edit the spt-sources and try it. thanks nevyn.
[04:21] <nevyn> M3ta: my desktop workstations always run sid.
[04:22] <code> so what is mozilla browser?
[04:22] <M3ta> nevyn: so you agree with me when i say that "unstable is really unstable only if you can't handle it"? ;)
[04:22] <M3ta> I've always been using "unstables".
[04:26] <jgedeon> hi. i got a problem getting my tape device to run. i added "alias /dev/ht0 ide-tape" to /etc/modules.conf (not directly, i used the script as recommended). anyway, after a reboot, neither does /dev/ht0 exist nor does lsmod show an entry for ide-tape (resp. ide_tape). any ideas? thanks in advance
[04:26] <ZellSF> Ok, it actually finds sda1 now, yai!
[04:27] <ZellSF> But it still isn't automatically mounted :/
[04:27] <shock> anyone else having epiphany crashing when doing: edit->toolbars ?
[04:29] <ZellSF> Anyone can help explain me how to automount the disk now that I don't have to reinsert it to detect it?
[04:30] <trey3> shock: most people don't use Epiphany
[04:31] <shock> probably
[04:31] <shock> but its alot faster then firefox
[04:31] <shock> :)
[04:31] <ZellSF> what does Rhythmbox use to play MP3 files?
[04:31] <shock> And I grew fond of it
[04:31] <shock> hm
[04:31] <shock> dunno? gstreamer?
[04:31] <ZellSF> Probably not.
[04:32] <trey3> shock: not so much... it uses the same exact engine... except it doesn't require full mozilla, so saves space  :/
[04:32] <trey3> ZellSF: 'gstreamer0.8-mad'
[04:32] <trey3> Its in Universe
[04:33] <bur[n] er> it uses gstreamer
[04:33] <shock> well.... I prefer some minor issues in epiphany
[04:33] <bur[n] er> without a doubt
[04:33] <ZellSF> oh.
[04:33] <ZellSF> great
[04:33] <ZellSF> now ubuntu has no internet connection
[04:33] <ZellSF> ...
[04:33] <trey3> ZellSF: haha
[04:33] <shock> like the fact that firefox places the curser @ pos 0 in input-filds you mark that have something in them - epiphany uses ->gettext()->length()
[04:34] <ZellSF> Wtf. Why did ubuntu suddenly start hating the internet? :(
[04:34] <shock> my ubuntu loves the internet
[04:34] <shock> maybe its a user-thing
[04:34] <shock> ;)
[04:34] <klaym> my ubuntu literally dives in the waves of internet
[04:34] <ZellSF> my ubuntu can't resolve enough servers to love the internet :/
[04:35] <jgedeon> anybody?
[04:35] <Se7h> o.0
[04:35] <shock> add some more nameservers then
[04:35] <ZellSF> Oh, well, anyone know how to automatically mount harddrives?
[04:35] <ZellSF> shock: ehm, why would I need to do that?
[04:35] <raydogg> is smb4k not in the warty release ?
[04:35] <trey3> raydogg: in universe I believe
[04:35] <Se7h> ZellSF fstab
[04:36] <trey3> its KDE... nothing for KDE is in main
[04:36] <shock> so u get more server-addies resolved?
[04:36] <ZellSF> fstab doesn't execute late enough
[04:36] <raydogg> Is there a gnome tool that does what smb4k does ?
[04:36] <Se7h> uh?
[04:36] <raydogg> i do not have kde installed
[04:36] <ZellSF> My harddrive is detected *much* later than fstab now :/
[04:36] <ZellSF> hotplug didn't like its original priority.
[04:36] <shock> jgedon - is that drive detected at all?
[04:36] <trey3> raydogg: not well... heh
[04:36] <raydogg> well, i can't play mp3s over the network using the default network browser tool :-(
[04:37] <raydogg> I guess i could mount them myself
[04:37] <santiago> Hi, I have a problem with my wirless network card
[04:37] <shock> rhathmbox works absolutely smoothy for me
[04:37] <Se7h> and my alien is fu**ed up
[04:37] <trey3> raydogg: huh? throw them into Rhythmbox?  :/
[04:37] <Se7h> lol
[04:37] <santiago> when I try to load de ndiswrapper module, i get this: # modprobe -v ndiswrapper
[04:37] <santiago> insmod /lib/modules/2.6.8.1-3-686/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko
[04:37] <santiago> FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.8.1-3-686/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Invalid module format
[04:37] <santiago> it's a bcm94306
[04:38] <santiago> anyone could help me?
[04:39] <snowblink> santiago: did you compile it or apt-get?
[04:39] <weblin> Hi all. I've got problems with ubuntu being very sluggish. when I run gnome-system-manager as root, I've got a load of processes running with nice -10, could that be why?
[04:40] <raydogg> trey3, i use xmms
[04:40] <ZellSF> I've got problems, more of them O_o. Sound doesn't work in Rhythmbox.
[04:40] <trey3> raydogg: that sucks  :/
[04:40] <santiago> snowblink, apt-get
[04:40] <snowblink> weblin: yes, possibly.
[04:40] <trey3> raydogg: xmms-mad though...
[04:41] <snowblink> santiago: you did ndiswrapper -i yourdriver.inf ?
[04:41] <trey3> ZellSF: you install gstreamer0.8-mad?
[04:41] <weblin> snowblink they all seem to be kernel processes i think. udev, kblockd and resier. should they have -10 nice?
[04:41] <ZellSF> yes
[04:42] <ZellSF> codecs are ok
[04:42] <trey3> weblin: yes.. and those aren't kernel processes...
[04:42] <weblin> oh right
[04:42] <shock> hmpf... heise.de is under DoS :/
[04:43] <shock> I hope they get those........
[04:43] <shock> *grml*
[04:43] <ZellSF> Hmm, just volume control reseting to 0% without a reason O_o
[04:43] <weblin> trey3, so what could explain the sluggishness on this system?
[04:43] <ZellSF> or maybe it just starts like that.
[04:43] <santiago> snowblink, mmm, the guide that i found use modprobe first, thanks, the module has loaded
[04:43] <trey3> weblin: no idea...
[04:43] <santiago> snowblink, :$
[04:43] <snowblink> santiago: cool
[04:44] <trey3> weblin: those are background processes though... not related to anything running  :/
[04:44] <ZellSF> Any idea on how to automatically mount a drive *after* init?
[04:44] <snowblink> weblin: what's the load on your box?
[04:44] <weblin> it's weird, sometimes the system 'feels' fine, but othertimes it's terrible.
[04:45] <jgedeon> shock: yes, at boot time the kernel recognizes it, but doesn't map it to /dev
[04:45] <klaym> weblin: hoary or warty? I run the latest warty and this is working like a charm
[04:45] <code> ok i just updated my firefox....how do i put it in the applicatins menu?
[04:45] <weblin> klaym, warty
[04:45] <klaym> k
[04:45] <trey3> code: it should already be there.... in hoary, you can't edit menu's currently though  ://
 shock: yes, at boot time the kernel recognizes it, but doesn't map it to /dev <--- running udev?
[04:46] <shock> have you googled ybout your specific drive and checked?
[04:46] <weblin> snowblink, the load says: cpu1 1% (goes between 1 and 4 constantly) and cpu2 is between 1 and 3%. thats from gnome-syustem-monitor
[04:46] <code> it was there...the old version.....but i gor rid of that for the new....theres no way to put it in there?
[04:47] <mpnw> help with printer please!  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=13543
[04:47] <weblin> snowblink, it's a hyperthreaded p4 so I'm running 2.6.10 from k.org with smp
[04:47] <snowblink> weblin: how much disk space do you have left?
[04:47] <mpnw> hello
[04:47] <davexc> can someone help me with some printer issues?
[04:48] <weblin> snowblink, on root 16G, on home 35G, on boot 42m
 <-- if all else fails - try restarting gnome
[04:48] <shock> but usually firefox should be detected by the menu
[04:48] <snowblink> weblin: check your logs for any errors or strangeness
[04:48] <trey3> code: don't DCC, only /msg if you have to  :/
[04:48] <code> soryy...im new to all of this
[04:49] <shock> no need to feel sorry - be proud!
[04:49] <shock> :)
[04:49] <davexc> haha
[04:49] <code> restarting gnome???restart my comp
[04:49] <davexc> can someone help me with printer/samba crashing
[04:49] <shock> just logout and then login again
[04:49] <davexc> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=13543
[04:49] <shock> should do
[04:50] <shock> I have no clue about samba printing :/
[04:50] <davexc> oh okay...
[04:50] <davexc> samba crashes on startup when i have more than 1 printer installed
[04:50] <davexc> and its really annoying me
[04:50] <shock> thats one advantage of running a debian-stable server.... runs and runs and runs
[04:50] <code> brb
[04:50] <shock> :)
[04:50] <weblin> dont see any weirdness in messages or syslog
[04:51] <weblin> it's acting ok again now. jeeze
[04:51] <shock> lol... windoze style!
[04:51] <jgedeon> shock: udev? yes, i googled but didn't find anythin so far
[04:51] <shock> hm
[04:51] <snowblink> weblin: maybe run top -i next time to see if you can see anything nasty
[04:52] <shock> have u modprobed the driver for your tape?
[04:52] <shock> well
[04:52] <shock> what kind of tape is it anyways?
[04:54] <ZellSF> <<what's the name of Gnome's VNC server again?
[04:54] <ZellSF> Any which program do you all think is best for remote control?
[04:55] <jgedeon> shock: a seagate ST8000 ATAPI-Streamer
[04:55] <snowblink> ZellSF: vino
[04:57] <shock> well my father runs the same darn thingy..... now why is yours protesting
[04:58] <shock> well
[04:58] <shock> not 100% same
[04:58] <shock> but a seagate
[04:58] <shock> *grml*
[04:58] <jgedeon> shocK: well it's being recognized... it just doesn't map it
[04:59] <code> firefox still didnt show up
[05:00] <snowblink> code: warty or hoary?
[05:00] <code> warty
[05:00] <jgedeon> hdd: Seagate STT8000A, ATAPI TAPE drive
[05:00] <jgedeon> hdd: IRQ probe failed (0xffffbff8)
[05:01] <jgedeon> (from dmesg)
[05:01] <snowblink> code: right click where you want the icon to appear in the menu
[05:01] <shock> weird thing
[05:01] <punkrockguy318> how can I change the default "Open" folder?  It always opens to ~/Documents... I want it to be ~/
[05:01] <code> ok
[05:01] <snowblink> code: entire menu->Add new item to this menu
[05:02] <occy> trey3: yeah, I concur.
[05:03] <occy> trey3: it's odd there hasn't been one yet.
[05:03] <trey3> occy: using hoary?
[05:03] <occy> trey3: hoary scares me.
[05:03] <ZellSF> what's a good site for Gnome themes?
[05:03] <code> ok where do the programs save at?
[05:03] <punkrockguy318> ZellSF, gnome-look.org
[05:03] <occy> trey3: I don't know enough to use it.
[05:03] <trey3> occy: yeah... especially considering its after freeze  :/
[05:03] <ZellSF> thanks
[05:03] <trey3> occy: oh  :(
[05:03] <snowblink> code: where did you install firefox from? Source or apt-get?
[05:04] <occy> snowblink: or tarball.
[05:04] <code> the firefox site....i made a folder to extract it to....then installed it
[05:04] <occy> snowblink: sounds like he installed from the tarball. :)
[05:04] <snowblink> code: try /usr/bin and /usr/local/bin
[05:04] <snowblink> occy: yup
[05:05] <occy> snowblink: it's going to be in his home dir more than likely
[05:05] <snowblink> code: or where you downloaded it to
[05:05] <occy> snowblink: and not in his $PATH
[05:05] <snowblink> occy: he just wants an link in the menu, so not fussed about PATH
[05:06] <occy> oh ok... /me shushes
[05:06] <snowblink> occy: probably best to link it anyway I guess
[05:06] <snowblink> occy: less problems down the line
[05:06] <Deviad> Hello
[05:06] <Deviad> I have got some problems with ubuntu and grub
[05:07] <Deviad> VFS: Cannot open root "hdb5" OR unknown-block (0,0)
[05:07] <code> ok its not in any of those
[05:07] <Deviad> Please append a correct "root=" boot option
[05:07] <snowblink> code: where did you download it to?
[05:08] <trey3> Deviad: where did you put /  ?
[05:08] <Deviad> kernel panic: VFS: Cannopen root on unknown-block(0,0)
[05:08] <PuGz> i have heard that a development release of hoary was just recently released. I REALLY cant wait to get hoary... anyone know when it might be released? I apologise if this is a question that gets asked often and annoys people... but there didnt seem to be anywhere else that could give me a decent date for the release... i understand it might not be exact... but is it gonna be weeks? or months?
[05:08] <snowblink> Deviad: grub doesn't use hda or b or c ...
[05:08] <Deviad> wait
[05:08] <Deviad> wait
[05:08] <Deviad> ok
[05:08] <Jonathan_C> Hi Deviad
[05:08] <Deviad> I have /boot on /dev/hdb1
[05:08] <Deviad> and I checked device.map
[05:08] <PuGz> (hd1,0)
[05:08] <Deviad> and it is hd0,0
[05:08] <Deviad> according to device.map
[05:09] <trey3> PuGz: in April .... you can download ISO's of it now though... LiveCD and Install CD's are available etc...
[05:09] <Deviad> in fact it works with the default things ubuntu created
[05:09] <PuGz> trey3: are they the actual release or development ones? and whats the difference?
[05:09] <Deviad> I just want to run a kernel without initrd
[05:09] <Deviad> that I feel uncomfortable with
[05:09] <Deviad> so
[05:09] <Deviad> this is what I have
[05:09] <PuGz> same! i cant stand initrd
[05:09] <PuGz> i dont know why... it just annoys me
[05:09] <code> i found where it is.....but which file actually opens the program???????????????
[05:09] <trey3> PuGz: there are no releases of Hoary yet...
[05:10] <PuGz> trey3: so what are these ISO's you speak of?
[05:10] <Deviad> title           Herumor, kernel 2.6.8.1-3-386
[05:10] <Deviad> root            (hd0,0)
[05:10] <Deviad> kernel          /vmlinuz-2.6.8.1-3-386 root=/dev/hdb5
[05:10] <snowblink> code: mozilla-firefox probably
[05:10] <Deviad> it should work according to the gentoo manual I have followed to configure grub
[05:11] <trey3> PuGz: there are 2... Daily snapshots... and Sounders (more complete etc) ... also LiveCD gets a daily snapshot release too...
[05:11] <Deviad> and some past knowledge
[05:11] <code> there is a bunch of different files in the folder.....which ione opens firefox??
[05:11] <code> icon*
[05:11] <Deviad> trey3, what sucks it's that you can't install hoary gnoppix on the HD
[05:11] <trey3> PuGz: what was announced was the first milestone for Hoary's LiveCD's on PowerPC, IA64, and AMD64
[05:11] <Deviad> because it misses the hdd install script since it's just a beta
[05:12] <snowblink> code: is there one called mozilla-firefox or firefox?
[05:12] <Deviad> and you can't use moprhix installer on the new gnoppix
[05:12] <Deviad> anyways, can you help me with my issue?
[05:12] <PuGz> trey3: so they make daily ISO's?
[05:12] <trey3> Deviad: sure you can... its exactly the same as the instlal CD  :/
[05:12] <Deviad> I have to fix the monitor refresh as well
[05:12] <trey3> PuGz: yes
[05:12] <PuGz> trey3: woah!
[05:12] <PuGz> i didnt know that!
[05:12] <PuGz> i have never heard of daily ISO's before!
[05:12] <PuGz> crazy!
[05:13] <PuGz> those sick bastards!
[05:13] <PuGz> hehe
[05:13] <PuGz> how very kind of them indeed!
[05:13] <trey3> :)
[05:13] <Deviad> well, if there some bastards out there who can help me I'd be thankful to him...
[05:13] <PuGz> Deviad: whats your biff?
[05:13] <Deviad> I typed it above
[05:13] <Deviad> :(
[05:14] <code> ok.....lets start over....i d/l firefox....made a folder to unzip it in....installed it....and i guess when i installed it...the files went to the same folder
[05:14] <Deviad> just few lines above
[05:14] <Deviad>  kernel panic: VFS: Cannopen root on unknown-block(0,0)
[05:14] <PuGz> trey3: I want to use ubuntu. I currently have a pre-release of WARTY on cd... but it doesnt work well... alsa sucks on it etc... i goto uni and they have a mirror of ubuntu... what do  you think the best way for me to get ubuntu is?
[05:14] <PuGz> i could lug my computer into uni and do it that way...
[05:15] <Deviad> can anyone get my menu.lst file so he can tell me what wrong is in it?
[05:15] <PuGz> or download the stuff at uni and put it on a dvd to bring home...
[05:15] <snowblink> Deviad: pastebin.com
[05:15] <Deviad> true
[05:15] <Deviad> I forgot that
[05:17] <code> ok...i found it
[05:17] <PuGz> what are universe, multiverse, restricted and main all about?
[05:18] <Deviad> http://pastebin.com/236248
[05:18] <Deviad> Have a look at this.
[05:18] <PuGz> and where in the directories of the mirror i use can i find the ISO's?
[05:19] <code> now can someone help me with my sound card not working?
[05:19] <trey3> PuGz: these are all things that you can find easily on the site   :/
[05:19] <snowblink> Deviad: hd1,0
[05:20] <PuGz> Deviad: your "root's" are wrong... hdb5 should have root (hd1,4) etc
[05:20] <Deviad> well
[05:20] <PuGz> trey3: aiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight
[05:20] <Deviad> according to device.map
[05:20] <Deviad> coming with grub
[05:20] <Deviad> hdb is hd0
[05:20] <Deviad> ^^
[05:20] <Deviad> I can't understand it either but it simply works
[05:21] <Deviad> at least with recovery mode, that was autoconfigured anyways
[05:21] <Deviad> at least with recovery mode, that was autoconfigured automatically
[05:21] <PuGz> hdb is hd1
[05:21] <PuGz> hda is hd0
[05:21] <Deviad> PuGz, the device map says hdb is hd0
[05:21] <Deviad> I read a guide on gentoo that says what you are saying
[05:21] <Deviad> but the device.map file says we are wrong
[05:21] <Deviad> ^^
[05:21] <PuGz> it shouldn't... do you understand the counting system?
[05:21] <Deviad> in my case at least
[05:21] <Deviad> yes
[05:21] <trey3> PuGz: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/components/document_view   < main restricted universe multiverse explained
[05:22] <Deviad> a = 0
[05:22] <Deviad> b = 1
[05:22] <snowblink> Deviad: okay, so what about the partition number?
[05:22] <Deviad> and so on
[05:22] <Deviad> 1 = 0
[05:22] <Deviad> 2 = 1
[05:22] <Deviad> and so on
[05:22] <PuGz> a=0, b=1, c=2, d=3 etc.... then the number trailing the a or b you subtract 1 from... ie 1=0, 2=1 etc
[05:22] <Deviad> I know that PuGz
[05:22] <PuGz> trey3: cheers
[05:22] <Deviad> but the device.map
[05:22] <Deviad> says that hdb = hd0
[05:22] <trey3> PuGz: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/  <-- the daily images... clearly marked...
[05:22] <Deviad> on my computer
[05:22] <Deviad> hdb1 = /boot
[05:22] <PuGz> why would it say that?
[05:22] <Deviad> hdb5 = /
[05:22] <Deviad> I dunno
[05:22] <Deviad> I can make a screenshot
[05:22] <Deviad> ^^
[05:23] <PuGz> do you nah... i'll be alright
[05:23] <snowblink> Deviad: hd1,5
[05:23] <snowblink> Deviad: hd0,5
[05:23] <Deviad> why is it like that?
[05:24] <jce> What is the major difference between ubuntu and debian?
[05:24] <snowblink> Deviad: I thought you said hdb5
[05:24] <Deviad> yes
[05:24] <trey3> Deviad: cuz its how grub defines it..   :/
[05:24] <Deviad> infact
[05:24] <Deviad> but in grub you count from 0
[05:24] <Deviad> not from 1
[05:24] <Deviad> so it's 0,4
[05:24] <Deviad> according to you
[05:25] <trey3> jce: Ubuntu has a more frequent release cycle... thats about it  :/
[05:25] <Deviad> but on gentoo it's explained that 0,0 is refeared to where /boot is located
[05:25] <trey3> jce: if you're using Sid... not much...
[05:25] <Deviad> so it should be 1,0
[05:25] <Deviad> but dev.map says hdb=0
[05:25] <Deviad> so it must be 0,0
[05:25] <Deviad> as reported for the other automatically configured devices
[05:25] <snowblink> Deviad: ah you have a separate /boot
[05:25] <Deviad> the problem is that it works just the recovery mode
[05:25] <jce> trey3: ahhh.
[05:25] <Deviad> Yes
[05:25] <Deviad> snowblink, exactly
[05:25] <Deviad> I have got a partition for boot
[05:26] <Deviad> that is hdb1
[05:26] <trey3> Deviad: no... first number defines disk... second number defines partition... it doesn't care about /boot etc... it just points at such things...
[05:26] <snowblink> Deviad: hd0,0 sounds good then
[05:26] <bitfoo> ubuntu uses the sarge installer :|
[05:26] <jce> trey3: so is there a reason to use ubuntu instead of sid?
[05:26] <Deviad> jce, if you have sid then stay with it
[05:26] <Deviad> ^^
[05:26] <Deviad> I got ubuntu just 2 try
[05:26] <Deviad> I have been using slackware for 2 years so far
[05:26] <trey3> jce: xorg and gnome devel without compiling yourself....
[05:27] <Deviad> jce, I still have xfree on ubuntu
[05:27] <Deviad> :|
[05:27] <Deviad> where do you see xorg?
[05:27] <stvn> Deviad: it's in hoary
[05:27] <trey3> Deviad: cuz you're using warty  :/
[05:27] <Deviad> uff
[05:27] <jce> I may move my home machine over to give it a try.
[05:27] <Deviad> are you using gnoppix?
[05:27] <bitfoo> use the livecd and decide for yourself
[05:27] <Deviad> anyways
[05:27] <Deviad> I want to fix this shit
[05:28] <trey3> jce: If you like Gnome and Debian... I'd recommend giving it a try as a desktop...
[05:28] <Deviad> well, gnome is just stable
[05:28] <Deviad> anyways I saw a better one
[05:28] <jce> can I just add lines to my sources for ubuntu?
[05:28] <bitfoo> ubuntu is particularly suited for laptops as well :)
[05:28] <jce> or do I need to do a clean install?
[05:28] <Deviad> Enlightenment 0.17
[05:29] <Deviad> this one must be really great
[05:29] <snowblink> Deviad: what happens if you change the device when you're at the menu?
[05:29] <stvn> Deviad: so i'm told 3 years ago
[05:29] <trey3> jce: sure... 'deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary(or warty) main restricted universe multiverse'
[05:29] <jce> cool.
[05:29] <Deviad> mmm
[05:29] <punkrockguy318> how can I change the default "Open" folder?  It always opens to ~/Documents... I want it to be ~/
[05:29] <trey3> jce: if you're using Sid though... Ubuntu hoary is a little behind...
[05:29] <Deviad> it says that it can't read after the cylinder number 1024
[05:30] <Deviad> or something like that
[05:30] <Deviad> I get errors 18 or 17
[05:30] <jce> thats unfortunate.
[05:30] <snowblink> Deviad: how large is your /boot?
[05:30] <Deviad> 64 MB
[05:30] <Deviad> and I have got an NFORCE 3 card
[05:30] <Deviad> ^^
[05:30] <Deviad> so it isn't old at all
[05:30] <Deviad> :D
[05:30] <Deviad> Gigabyte branded
[05:30] <Deviad> ^^
[05:31] <Deviad> I'm starting to think that grub just sux
[05:31] <PuGz> The weekly DVD's that are made... are they basically the same as the weekly cd's which have the install and some packages... but with the dvd just having more packages?
[05:31] <PuGz> Deviad: grub rocks once you get it
[05:32] <trey3> PuGz: its a bootloader... so long as it does its job... it neither sucks nor rocks  :/
[05:34] <Deviad> (hd0)   /dev/hdb
[05:34] <Deviad> (hd1)   /dev/sda
[05:34] <Deviad> (hd2)   /dev/sdb
[05:34] <Deviad> This is what I have for those who don't believe me
[05:34] <Deviad> :D
[05:34] <snowblink> Deviad: the only glaring omission I can see is the initrd
[05:34] <Deviad> snowblink, I just don't want to install it.
[05:34] <shock> re
[05:34] <Deviad> I mean, I don't wanna use initrd
[05:34] <Deviad> and I checked the config file
[05:34] <Deviad> ext3 is labeled as yes
[05:34] <PuGz> trey3: but i just dislike the way that lilo needs re-running after each new kernel install, and how if u get the configuration wrong.. or forget to re-run it, it gives you no possible way to boot your distro... u need a repair cd (or the install cd) of your distro... grub allows you to enter the details manually
[05:35] <Deviad> so I should be able not to use it.
[05:35] <trey3> PuGz: grub does too... just most package managers issue update-grub... whereas more lilo implementations don't   :/
[05:35] <PuGz> what does grub also do?
[05:36] <PuGz> need updating... yes
[05:36] <trey3> PuGz: require you to update config after any changes... basically what 'lilo' does...
[05:36] <PuGz> but if u forget to you arent screwed!
[05:36] <trey3> PuGz: just as screwed as with lilo  :/
[05:36] <trey3> ie... can't boot new kernel  :/
[05:37] <Deviad> ok
[05:37] <PuGz> i know it can be recovered with lilo, but its a longer process
[05:37] <Deviad> for those who thought I was just a lamer
[05:37] <Deviad> now they have the proof that in my case
[05:37] <Deviad> hdb = hd0
[05:37] <snowblink> Deviad: I think you need it if you are using ext3
[05:37] <PuGz> trey3: yeah... when u boot, if the configuration is wrong, you can do it manually at boot time to boot your pc!
[05:37] <Deviad> snowblink, are you sure?
[05:37] <PuGz> what initrd?
[05:37] <PuGz> no you dont
[05:38] <trey3> Deviad: that makes NO sense... but ok...
[05:38] <snowblink> Deviad: google for it
[05:38] <Ng> trey3: it's really quite hard to screw grub up enough that you can't boot
[05:38] <Ng> so long as the kernel is on a filesystem in your machine, grub can access it
[05:38] <Deviad> maybe
[05:38] <Deviad> I get it
[05:38] <PuGz> if you manually compile your kernel using ext3 or whatever, you dont need initrd
[05:38] <snowblink> Deviad: from what I can see it's needed
[05:38] <Deviad> tell me how to set / and /boot
[05:38] <Ng> and its built in console makes it pretty easy
[05:38] <Deviad> wait wait
[05:38] <Deviad> I got the clue
[05:39] <Deviad> tell me how to set / and /boot
[05:39] <Deviad> in fstab
[05:39] <Deviad> I'm sure it is that.
[05:39] <PuGz> trey3: The weekly DVD's that are made... are they basically the same as the weekly cd's which have the install and some packages... but with the dvd just having more packages?
[05:40] <Deviad> can you plz tell me how to set /boot and / in fstab?
[05:40] <trey3> Deviad: no, because the errors you're getting are related to GRUB, its not getting as far as mounting...
[05:40] <trey3> PuGz: no idea... I don't use the DVD's  :/
[05:41] <trey3> PuGz: I really don't recommend trying either though... lots of issues according to the report.html files...
[05:42] <snowblink> Deviad: can I ask why you don't want initrd?
[05:44] <PuGz> trey3: so how you recommend i get hoary? the current array?
[05:44] <snowblink> trey3: I wonder how I can make windows always on top...
[05:45] <trey3> PuGz: daily iso  :/
[05:45] <trey3> snowblink: right click "On Top"...
[05:45] <PuGz> ok
[05:45] <Lathiat> snowblink: click the icon in the top left, its an option
[05:45] <trey3> or what Lathiat said... same thing...
[05:45] <snowblink> trey3, Lathiat: I want it to remember that settig though
[05:45] <PuGz> i am also on dialup... i think i might have to take my pc to uni to download the stuff
[05:46] <snowblink> I hope Deviad worked out that he needs initrd since he's likely got ext3 as a module...
[05:46] <trey3> snowblink: file an enhancement to gnome bugzilla?
[05:46] <snowblink> trey3: heh - I might just wait for kubuntu...
[05:47] <Ng> you can control how windows appear with something called devilspie, but it's a real pita to configure
[05:47] <trey3> snowblink: uhh... ok  :/
[05:47] <snowblink> trey3: I've been spoiled by KDE apparently
[05:47] <trey3> snowblink: what do you think kubuntu will be?
[05:48] <snowblink> trey3: broke vim last time
[05:48] <trey3> snowblink: huh? enless you install kvim, kde won't even touch vim  :/
[05:49] <bitfoo> Xlib:  extension "RANDR" missing on display ":0.0".
[05:49] <bitfoo> [OS]  Debian testing/unstable (2.6.10-2-686) :: [Uptime]  14:17 :: [CPU]  2-Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.70GHz @ 1700MHz (2048 KB/0% load) :: [Memory]  263M Used, 1011M Total (74% Free) :: [Video]  RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10]  (1280x800/24 Bit/) :: [Disk]  5.99G Used, 55.04G Total (84% Free) :: [Network]  Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5788 Gigabit Ethernet (eth1: 55.17M In, 4.60M Out)
[05:49] <bitfoo> :|
[05:50] <snowblink> trey3: I installed KDE. I think apt-get kde
[05:50] <snowblink> trey3: but was miffed when I typed vi and it said command not found
[05:50] <trey3> snowblink: yeah... that drags down half the archive  :/
[05:50] <Stinky_Taco> WOW! I just noticed GNOPPIX is now Ubuntu hoary :)  What a neat project.. Thanks guys!
[05:50] <Stinky_Taco> 64 bit too!
[05:50] <trey3> snowblink: 'apt-get install kde-core' and don't install kvim  :/
[05:52] <wm_eddie> I'm talking to you from the new kiosk for the Language media center in the University of pittsburgh.
[05:52] <snowblink> trey3: will give that a go. :)
[05:52] <Pluk> bitfoo, dont you have powernowd installed?
[05:52] <wm_eddie> An old G3 running Ubuntu
[05:52] <Pluk> cuz your cpu is running 1.7Ghz on 0% load
[05:52] <Pluk> while it could run 600mhz
[05:53] <bitfoo> hmm
[05:53] <bitfoo> i guess not
[05:53] <bitfoo> powernowd is already the newest version.
[05:53] <bitfoo> :/
[05:53] <Pluk> is it started?
[05:54] <Lathiat> perhaps your cpu doesn tsupport scaling?
[05:54] <bitfoo> modprobe powernowd ?
[05:54] <Lathiat> cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/affected_cpus
[05:55] <Lathiat> hrm /proc/cpuinfo is broken while scaling
[05:55] <Lathiat> like it thinks by cpu is at 418mhz and thats not right, bogomips are wrong too. hrm.
[05:55] <bitfoo> why i guess it isnt scaling :|
[05:55] <bitfoo> it should though :|
[05:55] <Lathiat> bitfoo: hrm?
[05:56] <bitfoo> cpuinfo shows it at 1700 :(
[05:56] <Lathiat> bitfoo: cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_min_freq
[05:56] <bitfoo> that doesnt do anything :?
[05:56] <bitfoo> no such file or directory :|
[05:56] <Pluk> sudo powernowd
[05:56] <Pluk> what does that give?
[05:56] <bitfoo> lots of errors :|
[05:57] <bitfoo> couldn't open file x 3
[05:57] <bitfoo> couldn't open govn's file for writing: No such file or directory
[05:57] <bitfoo> Couldn't get per-cpu data: Illegal seek
[05:57] <bitfoo> PowerNowd encountered and error and could not start.
[05:57] <bitfoo> :/
[05:57] <Pluk> powernowd: PowerNow Daemon v0.90, (c) 2003-2004 John Clemens
[05:57] <Pluk> powernowd: Found 1 cpu:
[05:57] <Pluk> powernowd:   cpu0: 600Mhz - 1700Mhz
[05:57] <Pluk> should look like this
[05:58] <Pluk> do you have an asus laptop?
[05:58] <bitfoo> yes
[05:58] <Pluk> educated guess
[05:58] <bitfoo> i have everything it says i should have :/
[05:58] <stvn> bitfoo: warty or haory?
[05:58] <stvn> Pluk: heh
[05:58] <bitfoo> 2.6 kernel, sysfs mounted, and cpufreq driver loaded :O
[05:58] <bitfoo> warty
[05:58] <Pluk> ive read that asus isnt showing its scaling freqs correctly
[05:58] <bitfoo> ahh so maybe it is scaling though
[05:59] <bitfoo> im pretty sure it scales independent of the os?
[05:59] <stvn> bitfoo: it didn't work in warty for me either, but in hoary it works on my asus laptop
[05:59] <bitfoo> :|
[05:59] <stvn> my batterystatus doesn't work though
[05:59] <bitfoo> which laptop do you have :|
[05:59] <stvn> bitfoo: M6000Ne
[05:59] <bitfoo> me too
[05:59] <bitfoo> you have to patch the kernel or fix the dsdt table :|
[06:00] <bitfoo> m6n.ath.cx
[06:00] <bitfoo> :|
[06:00] <Pluk> that fix is prolly on hoary then
[06:00] <bitfoo> no
[06:00] <stvn> bitfoo: yeah discovered that site, haven't bothered yet
[06:00] <bitfoo> because i think the kernel hack will break other manufacturers :/
[06:00] <bitfoo> its assus' fault :(
[06:01] <stvn> bitfoo: oh and my poweroff doesn't work properly in hoary, whereas it worked in warty (IIRC)
[06:01] <wm_eddie> asus is a name therefore it's asus's :p
[06:01] <bitfoo> yeah when i go to shutdown it wont shutdown
[06:01] <stvn> yep
[06:01] <bitfoo> it will hang on "powering down" or some crap
[06:01] <bitfoo> so them i am :(
[06:02] <stvn> bitfoo: look at the bright side: the scaling can be fixed
[06:02] <Pluk> :)
[06:02] <bitfoo> i think the scaling is independent :|
[06:02] <bitfoo> i think it works even if it says it doesnt :/
[06:02] <stvn> bitfoo: i think so
[06:03] <bitfoo> :|
[06:03] <bitfoo> other than that i like the laptop :/
[06:05] <code> can someone help me....i cant get any video or music files to play
[06:07] <code> hello??
[06:07] <jcoxon77> hello
[06:07] <code> can u help me?
[06:07] <jcoxon77> maybe whats your problem?
[06:08] <code> i cant get any video or music files to play
[06:08] <jcoxon77> okay, what programs are you trying to use?
[06:08] <code> i think one is called totem
[06:08] <wm_eddie> Anybody remember that ipv6 fix to firefox?
[06:09] <stvn> code: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:09] <jcoxon77> yup, and what are the file type you are trying to play?
[06:09] <code> i tried em all
[06:09] <code> avi, mpeg,mov
[06:09] <stvn> code: you need to enable support for mp3, avi etc
[06:09] <code> how do i do that?
[06:10] <code> could it be that my sound card isnt reconized?
[06:10] <Amaranth> code: sudo apt-get install gstreamer-plugins
[06:10] <stvn> code: see the page I gave
[06:10] <Amaranth> you'll need to enable universe
[06:10] <Seminole> wm_eddie: type in about:config in the browser box
[06:11] <Seminole> then filter for "ipv"..  You'll see network.dns.disableIPv6 - need to change it to "false"
[06:11] <shock> actually I got totem-xine, xine and all that concerning stuff from marillat installed... er... multiverse
[06:12] <Seminole> wm_eddie - http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#disableipv6-mozilla
[06:12] <code> ok and how do i do the sudo thing?
[06:12] <wm_eddie> thanks
[06:12] <Seminole> np
[06:12] <wm_eddie> I've been searching the wiki with no luck this whole time
[06:13] <stvn> code: sudo <whateveryouwanttorun>
[06:13] <stvn> code: and the password is your own password
[06:13] <Seminole> That site is great.   One of the best tools for actualy getting my friends to consider Linux..   :)
[06:13] <code> ok so i have to goto that site d/l shit....then use the sudo?
[06:14] <stvn> code: er.. follow the instructions on that site, you need to add repositories
[06:15] <code> what is a repositorie???
[06:15] <code> sorry im really new to this
[06:17] <stvn> code: the place where you get your software from: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/howto/helpcenterhowto.2004-09-30.5359349801
[06:17] <stvn> code: and https://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/howto/helpcenterhowto.2004-10-20.3414506543/
[06:19] <wm_eddie> ok, now to make a session that only runs firefox.
[06:19] <wm_eddie> anyone know where I can find information on that?
[06:20] <dr_willis> hmm
[06:20] <dr_willis> on what? :P
[06:20] <tsw> any idea for a math program in linux like mathcad and matlab on windows?
[06:20] <Pluk> you prolly need to google for kiosk mode wm_eddie
[06:20] <Riddell> tsw: GNU Octave
[06:20] <tsw> Riddell: thanks Ill check that out
[06:22] <Se7h> BeatrIX Linux 2005.1 Final represents more than 19 months' work by three programmers, and input from hundreds of users. It is a Debian/Ubuntu derivative, and tracks the Ubuntu repository
[06:22] <Se7h> they even track ubuntu
[06:22] <Se7h> :D
[06:23] <CreeVal> Im going to install a new harddrive and replace the one with the Master boot record and GRUB, and of course install Windows 2000 on it... Any ideas on how to install GRUB and keep my current Ubuntu install?
[06:30] <nF3r> is ubuntu better than suse in ease of install and use ?
[06:30] <code> hey stvn??????
[06:30] <stvn> code: ?
[06:30] <code> i did that
[06:30] <code> now what
[06:30] <stvn> code: you are using synaptic?
[06:31] <code> yeah
[06:31] <shock> nF3r: dont think there is so much of a difference in usability
[06:31] <stvn> code: hit the reload button
[06:31] <shock> installation - if you get lucky ubuntu is darn easy to install
[06:31] <code> i already did
[06:31] <shock> and use... well... getting newer versions of software is alot nicer using apt
[06:32] <stvn> code: ok, install gstreamer0.8-mad and totem-xine
[06:32] <code> how do i do that?
[06:32] <stvn> code: don't worry about ubuntu-desktop being removed
[06:33] <stvn> code: search and than click on the square
[06:33] <dr_willis> hmm
[06:35] <code> ok found it
[06:35] <code> now what?
[06:35] <stvn> click on the square infront of it
[06:35] <code> mark for installation?
[06:35] <stvn> yep
[06:36] <code> it says its not installable
[06:36] <stvn> code: which one?
[06:37] <code> both
[06:37] <jono> hi all
[06:38] <stvn> code: does it give any reason?
[06:38] <code> unresolvable dependacies
[06:38] <jono> is OpenOffice 2 intended for hoary?
[06:39] <code> make sure all required repos are added and enabled
[06:39] <stvn> code: you are sure you enabled both multiverse and universe and you did not disable aything else?
[06:39] <Deviad> hello guys
[06:39] <Deviad> I'm on windows right now
[06:39] <code> i dont think
[06:40] <Deviad> I read through google that is a problem related to the kernel 2.6.8
[06:40] <Deviad> exactly the one that comes with the old ubuntu
[06:40] <Deviad> so I'm thinking to get the new hoary
[06:40] <Deviad> are you downloading gnoppix?
[06:40] <stvn> code: can you paste the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list in pastebin.org?
[06:40] <tritium> jono, I don't know if that's been decided yet
[06:40] <code> should i just ebable all repos?
[06:40] <jono> tritium, oh right
[06:40] <stvn> code: that's the easiest way ;)
[06:41] <jono> tritium, when OOo 2 due for release?
[06:41] <tritium> jono, don't know that either :)
[06:41] <code> ill do that then try again
[06:41] <stvn> code: btw it's not pastebin.org but .com
[06:42] <Docta> Is there a convenient way to install swat?  I'm using the warty/universe set, but I've been getting the same version conflict (with samba) for weeks now
[06:42] <tritium> jono, but don't go reporting my ignorance on lugradio now ;)
[06:43] <jono> tritium, heh, a listener :)
[06:43] <stvn> code: i'm away now, so if you need more help, ask in general
[06:43] <tritium> jono, and an article reader
[06:43] <code> ok thanks for your help
[06:44] <jono> tritium, :)
[06:45] <Deviad> how can you install gnoppix hoary on the hard disk?
[06:45] <Docta> "swat: Depends: samba (= 3.0.7-1ubuntu6) but 3.0.7-1ubuntu6.3 is to be installed" <-- is there a nice way to get around this or am I just going to have to override the versions?
[06:46] <zAo^> who can help me on this error: failed to open package info file `/var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/control
[06:46] <zAo^> I tried to install a .deb file with dpkg -i <file.deb>
[06:46] <Deviad> Can you plz tell me how you install gnoppix on the hard drive?
[06:49] <Deviad> Can you plz tell me how you install gnoppix on the hard drive?
[06:52] <klaxnek> hi all ubuntu-ers ;) anyone knows a site with ubuntu based wallpapers?
[06:52] <tritium> jono, this is all I can find: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/ChrisHalls/
[06:52] <shock> gnome-look.org has some
[06:52] <Pluk> Deviad, isnt gnoppix just a live cd without option to install it to hd?
[06:52] <zAo^> www.unbuntuforums.org
[06:52] <Soap_On_A_Roap> anybody know where I can get a program that plays either .mov or .wmv?
[06:52] <zAo^> Soap_On_A_Roap, Totem
[06:52] <Lathiat> Soap_On_A_Roap: see totem-xine
[06:52] <klaxnek> thx shok, forgot to watch that web
[06:52] <ubuntu> Soap_On_A_Roap: and codecs
[06:53] <ivar> if I have some iptables rules I want to take effect every time I boot, where's the 'ubuntu standard' place to store them ?
[06:53] <Deviad> Pluk, older versions could be installed on the HD
[06:53] <Deviad> :|
[06:53] <Deviad> :(
[06:53] <Pluk> ivar, place the script in /etc/init.d/
[06:53] <Pluk> then update-rc.d scriptname defaults
[06:53] <tritium> jono, looks like openoffice.org2 is a "Target of Opportunity" for Hoary: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HoaryGoals/
[06:54] <ivar> Pluk, thanks..
[06:54] <Pluk> yw
[06:54] <klaxnek> other question: in ubuntu64, when setting a 32bits chroot, all the base packages needs to be installed?
[06:55] <Soap_On_A_Roap> I have totem
[06:55] <Soap_On_A_Roap> but where could I get the codecs?
[06:55] <jmhodges> ok, init.d/dbus-1 is giving me an error about a missing system.conf (this is in hoary).. i've tried reinstallation, but it seems that the initscript for dbus is not installed when i reinstall
[06:56] <Soap_On_A_Roap> I have totem
[06:56] <Soap_On_A_Roap> but where could I get the codecs?
[06:56] <jmhodges> Soap_On_A_Roap: check the wiki, and stop repeateing questions
[06:57] <pielorus> Hi everyone. Can someone please tell me what the minimum system reqs for Ubuntu are?
[06:57] <jmhodges> pielorus: you'll want 2 gigs to install the base system though and a moderate amount of RAM to handle gnome well
[06:58] <MeMa|Sorcerer> hallo
[06:58] <Pluk> hiya MeMa|Sorcerer
[06:58] <pielorus> how much is moderate 128 MB? or 256 MB? what kind of CPU will I need?
[06:59] <jmhodges> pielorus: 128 MB can handle it, with some swap
[06:59] <jmhodges> i put it on my lil bro's computer, and he's running something godawful... 450 MHz or some such? can't remember
[06:59] <jmhodges> one sec
[07:00] <jmhodges> bah, itll run on most anything
[07:00] <pielorus> nice
[07:00] <jmhodges> you'll want swap of course..
[07:00] <pielorus> 'cause I'm looking to buy a laptop to run it on and basically just screw around a bit
[07:00] <nF3r> does anyone know a link for the latest stable iso ubuntu ?
[07:01] <pielorus> thanks alot, cheers
[07:04] <pierre_> install problem on a 200mhz pentium with atapi cd-rom, hangs at loading ide-cd module
[07:08] <Cindux> roare
[07:08] <Cindux> Does anyone know by chance how much ram Ubuntu uses on its own
[07:08] <Cindux> by default without me having anythung open ?
[07:09] <cowbud> why ohh why is bugs.ubuntu.com not setup?!
[07:09] <cowbud> what ist his bugzilla nonsense
[07:09] <cowbud> mooo
[07:09] <pybe-lappy> cowbud: it is
[07:09] <website> how to change language to entire the system?
[07:10] <cowbud> pybe-lappy: bugzilla.ubuntu.com is
[07:10] <Lathiat> cowbud: you want http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[07:10] <raydogg> nautilis can't display samba shares ?
[07:10] <Boohbah> what is the projected hoary release date?
[07:11] <pybe-lappy> cowbud: you want something different?
[07:11] <cowbud> pybe-lappy: yah I wants just bugs :)
[07:11] <cowbud> ala debian style
[07:11] <cowbud> and gnome
[07:11] <Cindux> hm
[07:11] <pybe-lappy> cowbud: is it just the name or a different system?
[07:11] <cowbud> different name
[07:11] <cowbud> :)
[07:11] <code> can someone tell me how to play mp3's???????
[07:11] <pybe-lappy> Boohbah: search the wikki
[07:12] <Boohbah> Our next release, sometime early 2005, will be roughly 5.04.
[07:12] <cowbud> code: www.ubuntuguide.org
[07:12] <Boohbah> pybe-lappy: does that mean april?
[07:12] <pybe-lappy> cowbud: add bugs.blah to your /etc/hosts file as an alias for bugzilla.blah
[07:12] <cowbud> pybe-lappy: NO
[07:12] <cowbud> haha
[07:12] <pybe-lappy> lol
[07:12] <raydogg> code apt-get install xmms
[07:12] <cowbud> does ubuntu's website have a equiv to packages.debian.org ?
[07:12] <pybe-lappy> Boohbah: means what it says
[07:13] <cowbud> so I can see the patch they use for their packageS?
[07:13] <Boohbah> pybe-lappy: so warty is the only release for now?
[07:13] <pybe-lappy> Boohbah: yep
[07:13] <varla> hey how can I install the xine-lib
[07:13] <pybe-lappy> Boohbah: hoary is in beta or whatever
[07:14] <Boohbah> pybe-lappy: i can get the latest gnome with warty, right?
[07:14] <pybe-lappy> varla: apt-get install xine or xine-ui or totem-xine
[07:14] <encryptio> varla: install xine-ui. it installs xine-lib as well afaik
[07:14] <klaxnek> cowbud: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ ? Inside http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/
[07:14] <website> how to change the language of the whole system
[07:14] <website> ?
[07:14] <code> so in synaptic i searched for xmms and do i just use the one that says xmms?
[07:14] <code> theres a bunch
[07:14] <pybe-lappy> Boohbah: maybe by adding the hoary repos or something
[07:15] <raydogg> well
[07:15] <varla> encrypto: I did that and the xine-lib are not included I Think
[07:15] <raydogg> just open a console and type apt-get install xmms
[07:15] <raydogg> or sudo apt-get install xmms
[07:16] <encryptio> varla: why do  you say that?
[07:16] <code> ok
[07:16] <code> ill try that if this doesnt work
[07:16] <raydogg> k
[07:17] <varla> encrypto:I am trying to play a dvd with encryptions and it is looking through the another lib that I can't write the name of right now
[07:17] <encryptio> varla: libdvdcss2, right?
[07:17] <code> so that is a program right?
[07:17] <varla> encrypto: yes
[07:17] <raydogg> yeah
[07:17] <raydogg> its like winamp
[07:17] <raydogg> a clone
[07:17] <code> so now how do i make my mp3's play in that?
[07:17] <raydogg> for X
[07:17] <raydogg> right click on an mp3
[07:17] <raydogg> a mp3
[07:18] <raydogg> properties
[07:18] <raydogg> the open with tab
[07:18] <raydogg> click add ( if xmms isn't already in the list )
[07:18] <encryptio> varla: if you run xine from a terminal and try to play the dvd, it'll tell you the path to a shell script. run that script with sudo, and quit and relaunch xine.
[07:18] <raydogg> type xmms in the box and hit "add"
[07:18] <raydogg> then click the radio button
[07:18] <raydogg> note that it won't play mp3s from a network share for some reason
[07:19] <varla> encrytio:I ran xine from a terminal and it freezes looking for the css plugins for region 1 so I don't get to a shell script
[07:21] <code> it says my sound card isnt working right....may be bloacked....configured
[07:21] <code> ???
[07:22] <weblin> hi all, I think i've broke my apt install :S
[07:22] <encryptio> varla: check this out: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[07:22] <varla> encryptio:ok
[07:22] <weblin> i'm running warty, but i installed hoary mono packages, and now I'm getting crashes when I try to use synaptic
[07:23] <weblin> i can run synaptic, but when i click to install a package it just closes
[07:23] <encryptio> my my my. mixing hoary and warty. that's why i reloaded the last 2 times...
[07:23] <weblin> damn
[07:24] <encryptio> weblin: can you still use apt from the terminal?
[07:24] <weblin> encryptio, yeah i can
[07:24] <encryptio> weblin: have you tried removing and installing (reinstalling) synaptic?
[07:24] <asdfasdfasdf> "Error 18: Selected cylinder exceeds maximum supported by BIOS" <-- What does that means
[07:24] <weblin> hmm, no. i'll give it a try
[07:26] <prego> just for curiosity... is there any way to perform an ubuntu network install (share the CD via nfs or ftp)?
[07:26] <iRocha> Hello
[07:27] <weblin> encryptio, still crashing after a reinstall
[07:27] <iRocha> Can I install Ubuntu by ftp?
[07:27] <prego> iRocha, just have asked that!! ;-)
[07:27] <iRocha> :)
[07:27] <weblin> i'll just try installing it from sources
[07:27] <prego> iRocha, no yet an answer
[07:27] <iRocha> prego, thanks :)
[07:28] <prego> iRocha, having problems with the CD?
[07:28] <iRocha> exactly
[07:28] <asdfasdfasdf> "Error 18: Selected cylinder exceeds maximum supported by BIOS" <-- What does that means?
[07:28] <iRocha> prego: "Can't mount CD" or something like that.
[07:28] <weblin> prego, iRocha, i dont think you can install ubuntu by ftp. but you can install debian, then apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:28] <prego> iRocha, when??
[07:28] <encryptio> weblin: one more thing...
[07:29] <prego> weblin, thanks for the answer
[07:29] <iRocha> prego, after choosing the language and keyboard mapping
[07:29] <prego> iRocha, did you check the md5sum prior to burning?
[07:29] <iRocha> weblin, that will upgrade debian to ubuntu?
[07:29] <asdfasdfasdf> What does this means: "Error 18: Selected cylinder exceeds maximum supported by BIOS" ?
[07:29] <iRocha> prego, they are the original ubuntu cd's
[07:29] <Zindar> any of the canonical guys here?
[07:30] <Boohbah> asdfasdfasdf: your BIOS doesn't support that large of a disk
[07:30] <cmarqu> Hi all.
[07:30] <iRocha> prego, they worked at home, but not in the computer i'm trying to install it now
[07:30] <asdfasdfasdf> But, last time it works fine
[07:30] <encryptio> weblin: your synaptic problem... try removing /root/.synaptic
[07:30] <prego> iRocha, :-((. In my case, I had to dump the iso and burn it again with 1x so the installation seems to be working right now in an old machine...
[07:30] <weblin> encryptio, i'll have a go
[07:30] <prego> iRocha, but this is not the case of the original CDs!!
[07:31] <shock> hello again *sing*
[07:31] <weblin> encryptio, no luck. damn
[07:31] <iRocha> prego, the original warty live cd works fine, but the latest hoary live cd doesn't work too, very strange.
[07:31] <prego> iRocha, then, just install Warthy and upgrade to Hoary, isn't it?
[07:32] <encryptio> weblin: i'm out of ideas
[07:32] <iRocha> prego, i can't install warty, only the live cd runs.
[07:32] <prego> iRocha, oh, wait, sorry
[07:32] <weblin> encryptio, cheers anyway. I'll try the latest sources
[07:33] <iRocha> prego, i guess this friend of mine won't have ubuntu installed so soon :(
[07:33] <Lathiat> iRocha: define doesnt work
[07:33] <prego> iRocha, he he. I'm not an expert... but the debian way might solve the problem as weblin says
[07:34] <iRocha> it boots, i enter the language and keyboard mapping then it says it can't find the cdrom
[07:35] <spiral> hmmm... Anyone here knows about smart battery gestion in ubuntu ?
[07:35] <prego> iRocha, did you check the messages on console 3rd or four (ALT+F3, ALT+F4,...)?
[07:37] <weblin> encryptio, building the latest sources works now :)
[07:38] <prego> anyone has installed glademm in ubuntu?
[07:39] <tasuki> hello, does anyone have problems with azureus in ubuntu?
[07:39] <weblin> tasuki, works ok for me. whats up?
[07:40] <rob_m> hellooo
[07:40] <encryptio> yo
[07:40] <encryptio> .google test
[07:40] <encryptio> damnit
[07:40] <rob_m> hey man have you tried out libflash for gplflash from the hoary repos?
[07:41] <encryptio> nope
[07:41] <Gigs> are there no seeds for the torrents?
[07:42] <encryptio> i don't do much with hoary, i'm warty with a little testing on the side
[07:42] <rob_m> it hardcrashed firefox on my amd64
[07:42] <Gigs> I tried several of the normal mirrors, all were very slow, now trying the torrents, and it's been sitting there for 15 minutes with no seeds
[07:43] <rob_m> has anyone heard of or used skype?
[07:43] <prego> rob_m, I did, in SuSE
[07:43] <snowblink> rob_m: yes
[07:43] <rob_m> is it worth trying out?
[07:44] <snowblink> rob_m: definitely
[07:44] <prego> rob_m, is free as in beer :-P
[07:44] <klaym> is it better than gaim?
[07:44] <rob_m> yes :-(
[07:44] <snowblink> klaym: It's voice over IP
[07:44] <klaym> oh
[07:44] <rob_m> klaym: i will still live by gaim
[07:45] <klaym> I thought it was a messenger thing
[07:45] <prego> snowblink, did you alien the rpm to install it into ubuntu?
[07:45] <snowblink> klaym: you can also IM
[07:45] <klaym> ok
[07:45] <snowblink> prego: I followed the instructions on ubuntuguide
[07:45] <tasuki> weblin: azureus says: Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/eclipse/swt/internal/Library
[07:45] <klaym> so it's like messenger with voice?
[07:45] <prego> snowblink, sweet. Where is ubuntuguide?
[07:45] <rob_m> just one of those webphone services
[07:45] <klaym> that might get awful when you're very popular :D
[07:46] <rob_m> if you pay money they will make calles outside of the web too
[07:46] <snowblink> klaym: primarily voice, but can dial real phones too
[07:46] <weblin> tasuki: what jre are you using?
[07:46] <snowblink> prego: see topic
[07:46] <tasuki> weblin: I tried both 1.5 and 1.4
[07:47] <weblin> tasuki: have you set the JAVA_PROGRAM_DIR="" variable in the azureus startup script?
[07:47] <prego> snowblink, thank you very much ;-))
[07:47] <tasuki> weblin: hmm, no :)
[07:47] <snowblink> prego: np
[07:48] <weblin> tasuki: i've installed java into /opt/java/, so in the azurureus script i just put JAVA_PROGRAM_DIR="/opt/java/bin/"
[07:48] <weblin> tasuki: try it with the path to your 1.5 jdk
[07:49] <Zomb_> hi
[07:49] <tasuki> weblin: I also tried to run it as $java -jar Azureus2.jar
[07:49] <Zomb_> who's the cdrtools maintainer for Ubuntu?
[07:49] <tasuki> weblin: it had worked before :-(
[07:49] <Zomb_> daniels: you?
[07:50] <occy> has anyone here bought a new computer lately?  I'm looking for something that I can stick Ubuntu on.
[07:50] <weblin> tasuki: weird. what does "java" point to in your path? did you set the JAVA_HOME env variable and add it to the system path?
[07:50] <drnobes> Hi all.  Here's a quick question.  My wireless networking is working, after I compiled and installed the driver, but the link monitor applet is not showing it.  It's set to the correct device (ra0) but it shows no connection.
[07:50] <ZellSF> Totem won't play video? why?
[07:50] <Pit> stairs?
[07:51] <snowblink> ZellSF: you've installed the codecs?
[07:51] <ZellSF> some of them
[07:51] <ZellSF> which ones do I need?
[07:51] <snowblink> ZellSF: depends what you're trying to play
[07:52] <ZellSF> Everything, Totem doesn't display any kind of video
[07:52] <ZellSF> works fine in vlc
[07:52] <snowblink> drnobes: you're sure there is traffic?
[07:52] <Stefano> italian ? ;D
[07:52] <drnobes> snowblink, I'm using it right now.
[07:52] <ZellSF> ...?
[07:53] <rob_m> damn totem for crashing at my porn
[07:53] <tasuki> weblin: I do not have JAVA_HOME variable, but all other java apps run without problems
[07:53] <mxpxpod> is there a flash plugin for powerpc?
[07:53] <mxpxpod> that doesn't crash firefox?
[07:54] <weblin> tasuki: not sure whats wrong. have you tried with setting the path in the azureus script?
[07:54] <snowblink> ZellSF: maybe check ubuntuguide for the codecs - check you have them all
[07:54] <occy>  * Entries close on January 31st, 2005.
[07:54] <richx> ah, nice - some ubuntu channels ;-)
[07:54] <richx> hello
[07:54] <tasuki> weblin: the path should point to java/bin directory?
[07:54] <occy> why do I always find this crap out after it's over with.
[07:54] <occy> heh
[07:54] <rob_m> hello richx
[07:54] <weblin> tasuki: yeah
[07:54] <richx> hello to the world!
[07:55] <richx> is anybody speaking german?
[07:55] <weblin> ZellSF: have you installed totem-xine? i dont know if totem-gstreamer(default) supports win32 codecs
[07:55] <tasuki> weblin: still the same :-/
[07:55] <ZellSF> oh, good point.
[07:55] <weblin> tasuki: weird. try removing the azureus dir and reinstall it
[07:56] <richx> no?
[07:56] <tasuki> weblin: ok :)
[07:56] <weblin> tasuki: let us know how it goes.
[07:59] <dbt`veritas> how many of you still boot into windows?
[07:59] <tasuki> weblin: ohh, I am silly, I am *really* sorry for wasting your time, and thanks for trying to help me
[07:59] <dbt`veritas> from time to to time at least
[07:59] <weblin> tasuki: hehe thats ok :)
[07:59] <Zindar> dbt: lot's of people do to play games
[07:59] <Zindar> I do to play poker :)
[07:59] <Lathiat> tasuki: everyone has bad days :)
[07:59] <Zindar> that's it
[08:00] <ZellSF> How do I get Gnome to list videos as thumbnailS?
[08:01] <weblin> ZellSF: nautilus-media
[08:01] <weblin> i think
[08:01] <wasabi_> Totem should just do it
[08:01] <ZellSF> Well, on Mandrake, the it showed thumbnails by itself, so I have no idea how to do it :/
[08:02] <ZellSF> ...?
[08:02] <Lathiat> ZellSF: just works for me, hrm
[08:02] <weblin> you might need to restart nautilus once you've installed totem-xine
[08:02] <wasabi_> what videos types?
[08:02] <ZellSF> different types.
[08:02] <ZellSF> I've already restarted
[08:04] <weblin> ZellSF: the nautilus-media packages says it has:   gst-thumbnail: thumbnails videos for nautilus
[08:04] <ZellSF> ok
[08:04] <ZellSF> Not that I'm going to use Totem anyways, since it likes drawing random blue stuff at video output :/
[08:04] <shock> my totem runs like a charm
[08:05] <shock> except for wmv files
[08:05] <Ribs> you have wmv files?
[08:05] <Ribs> shame on you
[08:05] <weblin> gstreamer can play wmv now..in cvs i think
[08:05] <ZellSF> I can only view mvoies fullscreen, or I get blue lines or something
[08:05] <ZellSF> And 1x looks... not nice.
[08:05] <ZellSF> :/
[08:05] <Ribs> sounds like overlay isn't working properly
[08:06] <ZellSF> And is there a way to fix that?
[08:06] <Ribs> ZellSF: It's likley to be a hardware problem
[08:07] <Ribs> something isn't behaving properly
[08:07] <ZellSF> damn
[08:07] <Ribs> you could try it without overlay
[08:07] <Ribs> dunno if you can turn that off in totem
[08:07] <ZellSF> I don't think so :/
[08:07] <Ribs> or try another player
[08:07] <Ribs> it *could* be a software problem
[08:07] <Ribs> but I doubt it
[08:07] <weblin> ZellSF: totem-xine gets it's options from ~/.gnome2/totem_config - try setting it in there
[08:08] <dbt`veritas> anyone here have wine or cedega and play CS 1.6?
[08:14] <iRocha> prego, anything yet?
[08:15] <iRocha> prego, i wasn't here
[08:17] <rob_m> hey whats the address for the news server again?
[08:17] <rob_m> the ubuntu news group server?
[08:18] <no0tic> on hoary, fade out from screen lock doesn't work
[08:19] <no0tic> what is the problem?
[08:21] <Orbo> help with apt repositories?
[08:21] <rob_m> oh i finally found it its gmain.linux.ubuntu
[08:21] <Orbo> Which repositories do I need to get the latest versionso fhings such as xchat for warty release?
[08:22] <Orbo> versions of things*
[08:22] <Orbo> gotta run
[08:22] <rob_m> the latest versions are kept for hoary
[08:22] <no0tic> Orbo: backports
[08:22] <Orbo> right thats what it is
[08:22] <Orbo> which ftp is it?
[08:23] <rob_m> same one, just change the distro name
[08:23] <no0tic> go to bpubuntu.sourceforge.net
[08:23] <Orbo> got in nm
[08:24] <no0tic> Orbo: no, I'm wrong
[08:24] <no0tic> Orbo: I don't remember it
[08:26] <Guardiann> good afternoon
[08:27] <rob_m> man i cant connect to gmane.linux.ubuntu
[08:28] <Guardiann> I have discovered an interesting problem with the last updates I made this morning ( I am using Hoary) up untill this am my printer has worked great. Now when i attempt to print a test page through gnome it wont print. When I reboot the test page prints any ideas ??
[08:30] <AndyR> lo ppl
[08:30] <Guardiann> hello AndyR
[08:31] <Guardiann> damm its this transparent text
[08:32] <Guardiann> what a neat option
[08:32] <iRocha> Anyone had problems installing ubuntu because of a "can't mount cd" message?
[08:33] <dbt`veritas> nope
[08:33] <sabdfl> iRocha: do you have SATA drives, and an ATA CDROM?
[08:33] <dbt`veritas> did you dl the iso?
[08:36] <cowbud> wow it makes sense that I sohuld have to download 1 meg worth of text data to submit a bug
[08:38] <klaym> it's the price you have to pay to make ubuntu a better OS :) it's all logical!
[08:38] <cowbud> klaym yah well if I was a modem user i'd just not bother
[08:39] <klaym> me neither
[08:40] <rempresent> i accidently deleted my wastebasket from my panel how do i get it back
[08:40] <klaym> damm you, you're now wasted!
[08:40] <plagerism> what kernel version does warty use??
[08:41] <linux_mafia> anyone else finding hal does not start in hoary? i can see the problem but im not sure which package is at fault
[08:41] <Guardiann> system tools configuration editor  apps   nautilus  desktop
[08:41] <khinester> hello
[08:42] <Guardiann> hi
[08:42] <khinester> i have setup ubuntu and apache, but i am having difficulty in setting up WebDAV and FTP
[08:42] <tux_> hi
[08:42] <khinester> to access and change pages
[08:42] <sabdfl> rempresent: right click on the panel
[08:43] <sabdfl> add to panel
[08:43] <sabdfl> near the bottom: wastebasket
[08:43] <sabdfl> voila
[08:43] <cowbud> how do you attach files in this badness called bugzilla?
[08:44] <cowbud> I am at the commit a bug page and I see nothing for Attach file..
[08:44] <rempresent> ahh
[08:44] <rempresent> found it, it is called a trash applet
[08:44] <rempresent> thanks
[08:44] <khinester> i have enabled the dav_ modules
[08:44] <khinester> but still no luck
[08:45] <Dethread> moin
[08:46] <iRocha> sabdfl, SATA drives... i don't think so.
[08:46] <iRocha> ATA cdroms i have no ideia.
[08:48] <iRocha> sabdfl, if i have an ATA cdrom, can i install ubuntu?
[08:49] <khinester> how do you open the WebDAV on UBUNTU?
[08:49] <Slaven> I have a problem with XMMS in Ubuntu.
[08:50] <sabdfl> iRocha: yes
[08:50] <zazeem> can someone help me
[08:50] <Slaven> it's been like this since I did an imbecile apt-get update && apt-get upgrade with an unstable repository added to sources.list.
[08:50] <iRocha> sabdfl, how? floppy drivers?
[08:50] <sabdfl> iRocha: there is a known glitch for Warty on some systems that have SATA drives, and a PATA cd rom
[08:50] <sabdfl> the solution is a little funky
[08:50] <Slaven> since then, XMMS sometimes complains that sound drivers can't be found/another program is blocking the output.
[08:51] <sabdfl> during the install, before it tries to detect the cdrom, you need to switch to VT2 and manually modprobe the ide-cd modules
[08:51] <Guardiann> zazeem hello whats up today?
[08:51] <Slaven> other times it works fine but freezes every now and then.
[08:51] <sabdfl> search bugzilla for the exact procedure
[08:51] <iRocha> ok, thanks
[08:51] <zazeem> i get this error when i start enemy territory game, ----- R_Init -----
[08:51] <zazeem> ...loading libGL.so.1: Initializing OpenGL display
[08:51] <zazeem> ...setting mode 6: 1024 768
[08:51] <zazeem> Using XFree86-VidModeExtension Version 2.2
[08:51] <zazeem> XF86DGA Mouse (Version 2.0) initialized
[08:51] <zazeem> XFree86-VidModeExtension Activated at 1024x768
[08:51] <zazeem> X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown).
[08:51] <zazeem> why does it paste that many lines?
[08:51] <zazeem> ant it be one line?
[08:51] <iRocha> sabdfl, bye dinner time now
[08:52] <zazeem> thats error
[08:52] <zazeem> sup guardiann :)
[08:52] <Guardiann> every time you paste that it floods
[08:52] <zazeem> i know why though it used to not
[08:52] <Guardiann> isnt that the same error you have had for a few days?
[08:52] <zazeem> yes
[08:53] <francis> Hi everyone
[08:53] <zazeem> hoping the same guys are on that heped me last weekend
[08:53] <Guardiann> hello
[08:53] <zazeem> i had it fixed  but reinstalled
[08:53] <francis> Does anyone know of a way that I can change the partition of /home without re-installing?
[08:53] <Guardiann> and you dont remember the fix?
[08:53] <khinester> francis perhaps you can ln -s the home dir
[08:54] <_axel> hi, i tried setting the RenderAccel and NvAGP options in xorg.conf to use acceleration in the desktop but i get the following message in dmesg output: NVRM: not using NVAGP, AGPGART is loaded!!
[08:54] <_axel> wtf is that?
[08:54] <tarzeau> does xorg also have setxkbmap ?
[08:54] <francis> khinester, hmm, that's a good idea. Thanks.
[08:54] <khinester> np
[08:56] <Slaven> tarzeau: yes.
[08:56] <francis> Ubuntu so far seems great :D
[08:56] <francis> not quite at home yet without KDE though; downloading. =)
[08:56] <lordan> _axel, try unloading agpart
[08:58] <_axel> lordan: agpart seems to be in use by sis_agp
[08:58] <Slaven> hm
[08:58] <Slaven> creepy fact:
[08:59] <Slaven> it's only when I start mp3s from nautilus that I get the error with an occupied output - when I run xmms <songname> from the commandline, it works perfectly!
[08:59] <lordan> hmm... kde..
[08:59] <tarzeau> Slaven: do you know where the files/data is with all keymaps that setxkbmap understands? not xlibs-data, is it?
[08:59] <lordan> i do miss one thing from kde
[08:59] <danil1> Slaven: have you tried "lsof /dev/dsp"?
[09:00] <Slaven> tarzeau: no, sorry, very new to debian myself.
[09:00] <Slaven> coming from gentoo.
[09:00] <lordan> fish://user@server actually works
[09:00] <Slaven> danil1: same error running from nautilus, no difference running from commandline
[09:00] <lordan> and so does samba
[09:01] <Slaven> maybe I should just reboot.
[09:01] <lordan> nautilus + networking == bleech
[09:01] <danil1> lordan: just install Konqueror
[09:02] <Slaven> ok, reboot, then.
[09:03] <_axel> gah, dunno what's going on but since i upgraded to hoary, fonts look total crap in X
[09:03] <zazeem> we got like 2 new grapes in our school
[09:03] <lordan> danill, don't think so
[09:03] <_axel> i've tried playing with the settings in preferences->fonts but i still get ugly looking antialiasing and some characters even appear chopped
[09:03] <sampsa> anyboyd know why vncserver wouldnt be available throuhg apt-get?
[09:03] <danil1> _axel: what do you mean? Have you tried "dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig" ?
[09:03] <lordan> i want to keep kde completely off
[09:03] <lordan> _axel u have 2 video cards?
[09:04] <lordan> but if the kde ui is cleaned up I'll have a look again
[09:04] <danil1> lordan: I know what you mean... It's much more cleaner when you use only one DE and not a mix of Many
[09:04] <_axel> lordan: i have one video card, and btw dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig just totally hosed my system for 5 seconds
[09:05] <hitu> how do i enable/disable firewall ? :/
[09:05] <danil1> hitu: there's no firewall, since by default there are no open ports
[09:05] <hitu> danil1: i aint able to dcc send anyone :)
[09:06] <hitu> what else could be the problem
[09:06] <hitu> i m able to receive though
[09:06] <_axel> i'll re-login brb
[09:07] <danil1> hitu: hmm... I don't know. Maybe some kind of proxy/router/hardware thing is preventing you to receive incoming connections?
[09:08] <hitu> danil1: cant be .. i had same kind of problems on FC3 .. i just added the port address to my firewall and enabled it
[09:08] <hitu> and my dcc send's were workin again
[09:09] <Guardiann> hitu i think thats what danill was saying by default there are no open ports on ubuntu
[09:09] <hitu> okay
[09:10] <danil1> Guardiann: but if a port is opened, it should receive connections
[09:10] <hitu> how do i disable Clock Sync. thats on the startup
[09:10] <Guardiann> danil1 he does receive
[09:10] <danil1> hitu: sudo chmod -x /etc/init.d/ntpdate
[09:10] <hitu> kind of hangs my machine for a minute or two
[09:10] <Guardiann> he cant send
[09:10] <hitu> yah i can receive ..  cant send :P
[09:10] <francis> Hi. Where could I go to change display settings? Normally detects my Monitor as Samsung SyncMaster (it is), but it works better with the "Generic" option... In Fedora KDE it was something like Settings > Display, but don't see that around here.
[09:10] <danil1> Guardiann: er... sorry :-/
[09:10] <_axel> hmm, fonts still look crap
[09:10] <hitu> aah never been able to use Sudo
[09:10] <Guardiann> np :)
[09:10] <hitu> whats the password for it
[09:11] <danil1> hitu: your own :)
[09:11] <hitu> i did change the passwd for su
[09:11] <hitu> oh cool
[09:11] <hitu> lol
[09:11] <Guardiann> :)
[09:11] <snowblink> hi trying out ACPI suspend to RAM. It suspends, but has problems coming out. Any pointers?
[09:11] <hitu> so now that clock sync wont bug me again right ? :P
[09:11] <danil1> hitu: su -> enter root password (you need to set it first, and you did). sudo -> your password (cool!)
[09:12] <danil1> hitu: aye
[09:12] <hitu> okay cool \m/
[09:12] <hitu> now back to compiling kernel :|
[09:12] <Guardiann> I have discovered an interesting problem with the last updates I made this morning ( I am using Hoary) up untill this am my printer has worked great. Now when i attempt to print a test page through gnome it wont print. When I reboot the test page prints any ideas ??
[09:12] <hitu> getting a really bad error
[09:13] <|QuaD-> Guardiann: thats interesting?
[09:13] <Slaven> The problem persisted after reboot, but I managed to script my way out of it.
[09:13] <hitu> VFS: Cannot open root device "hda1" on unknown block(0,0) on my upgrade of kernel to 2.6.11-rc1
[09:13] <scizzo> Guardiann: what does the logs tell you?
[09:13] <Slaven> Which is weird.
[09:13] <Slaven> But I'm just glad it works.
[09:13] <zazeem> can someone help me
[09:13] <zazeem> XFree86-VidModeExtension Activated at 1024x768 X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown).
[09:13] <hitu> well not the kind of topic i should discuss in here anyway :P
[09:13] <Guardiann> no errors test print just sits and waits
[09:13] <hitu> ehehe zazeem u still havin probs with ur X
[09:13] <hitu> :P
[09:13] <scizzo> Guardiann: /var/log/something?
[09:13] <danil1> snowblink: there's something in the wiki...
[09:13] <zazeem> yes :'(
[09:13] <scizzo> Guardiann: I mean those logs
[09:14] <zazeem> no one wants to help
[09:14] <zazeem> :|
[09:14] <Guardiann> :)
[09:14] <hitu> zazeem: maybe no body knows about it
[09:14] <zazeem> they do
[09:14] <scizzo> zazeem: take it easy....
[09:14] <snowblink> danili: I've read the SuspendHOWTO, but no go on coming out of a suspend
[09:14] <hitu> lol
[09:14] <Slaven> would help if I knew.
[09:14] <zazeem> what?
[09:14] <zazeem> lol
[09:14] <scizzo> zazeem: it takes time to answer also
[09:14] <zazeem> i know what it was
[09:14] <Slaven> myself I can't even get cedega to work :P
[09:14] <danil1> snowblink: search for suspend in the website, you should find some pages
[09:15] <Slaven> but, I was wondering, is there a guide on how to setup a bootsplash with Ubuntu?
[09:15] <zazeem> i need to edit my cfg that has resolutions at login screen
[09:15] <zazeem> delete the high ones
[09:15] <danil1> Slaven: how did you solve?
[09:15] <zazeem> dunno what one
[09:16] <Guardiann> hmmm looks as though it detects the printer fine
[09:16] <Slaven> danil1: I wrote a small python script that ran the command the way I would run it from commandline. It though that's how nautilus would run it too, but guess I was wrong.
[09:17] <danil1> snowblink: have you tried with HoaryPMResults? Are you listed?
[09:17] <liquid> whats the command to move one folder to another one in the terminal?
[09:17] <snowblink> danil1: have looked. But my laptop is not listed. Nothing similar either. :(
[09:17] <danil1> liquid: mv
[09:18] <tux_> liquid, mv
[09:18] <Slaven> heh
[09:18] <paer> liquid: mv folder to_another_folder/
[09:18] <danil1> snowblink: maybe you'll just have to wait... :-(
[09:18] <nicodiemus> Er. Anyone know much about Alsa?
[09:18] <liquid> so its mv *folder address* *second folder address* ?
[09:18] <Slaven> if you want to copy it with cp, you need the -R flag (cp -R <source> <dest.>)
[09:18] <scizzo> nicodiemus: ask the question instead please
[09:19] <paer> Anyone here knows where I should look for ways to get Firefox and Thunderbird in my local language (I choose swedish on installation of ubuntu, but my browser and thunderbird (which I installed later via apt-get) is in english.
[09:19] <nicodiemus> scizzo, my Mini-ITX doesn't seem to get on with the ALSA installation in Ubuntu. It won't detect or use it.
[09:19] <paer> liquid: yep pretty much that. you may have to have a look at the "-r" option, though
[09:19] <scizzo> nicodiemus: are you sure it is supported?
[09:20] <scizzo> nicodiemus: and if it is....in what version of alsa is it supported and kernel?
[09:20] <nicodiemus> Well, i had it working in Fedora. It's just an AC'97.
[09:20] <snowblink> danil1: Thanks anyway. Will have a look at acpi@sf
[09:21] <danilo_> snowblink: good luck!
[09:21] <Slaven> paer: if you find out, please tell me.
[09:21] <danilo_> paer: install mozilla-*-locale-se
[09:21] <danilo_> (if it is packaged...)
[09:21] <liquid> so something like : "cp /mnt/hdb5/bin /mnt" so im wanting to move the bin file to the mnt file...
[09:21] <paer> danilo_: ah so I will need to do a apt-get remove firefox and remove mozilla-thunderbird first?
[09:22] <liquid> *hte bin folder rather*
[09:22] <Slaven> se isn't packaged :(
[09:22] <danilo_> paer: no, they're just addons
[09:22] <nicodiemus> scizzo: Hm. I was pretty sure AC'97 was pretty generic, but i'll look into it.
[09:22] <paer> liquid: cp -r /mnt/hdb5/bin /mnt/
[09:22] <zazeem> hi
[09:22] <Slaven> even norwegian is packaged, but not swedish. :(
[09:22] <randabis-laptop> wow, laptop is lookin' good heh
[09:22] <randabis-laptop> http://img16.exs.cx/img16/9708/desktop14ml.jpg
[09:22] <hitu> could someone gimme the correct line for fstab to load a windows partition ?
[09:22] <danilo_> isn't it available as extension?
[09:23] <help> :)
[09:23] <paer> danilo_: that will copy the bin-folder to /mnt/
[09:23] <hitu> right now its : /dev/hda3               /mnt/windows  vfat    defaults        0 0
[09:23] <randabis-laptop> hitu, www.ubuntuguide.org
[09:23] <liquid> paer what does the -r do, i think i missed that part
[09:23] <hitu> i aint able to mount/umount it with a regular non-root user
[09:23] <hitu> okay randabis-laptop :)
[09:23] <Slaven> hitu: "users"
[09:23] <Slaven> in opts
[09:23] <paer> liquid: it copies subfolders too
[09:23] <scizzo> nicodiemus: well I don't know much more then to look if it is really supported
[09:23] <help> how do i edit my resolution on my nvidia logo and login screen so its 1024x768?
[09:23] <liquid> ah right
[09:23] <nicodiemus> scizzo: looks like it needs some kernel recompilation. :D fun.
[09:24] <danilo_> hitu: just add 'user' to the mount options
[09:24] <hitu> k
[09:24] <scizzo> hehe..
[09:24] <paer> danilo_: do you know where I should turn to offer my help to package it for ubuntu? is it a ubuntu-group that handles that, or is it the mozilla project?
[09:24] <danilo_> paer: just use cp -a (as root): it will preserve times, symlinks, etc. and copy recursively
[09:24] <help> how do i edit my resolution on my nvidia logo and login screen so its 1024x768?
[09:25] <paer> danilo_: ah, like cp -rp ?
[09:25] <danilo_> paer: ubuntu-devel, I think
[09:25] <paer> danilo_: ok thx i'll have a look
[09:25] <danilo_> paer: yes. if you're copying a whole file system, cp -ax is the best way
[09:26] <paer> danilo_: aha i've never seen either the -x or the -a options. nice to learn something :o)
[09:26] <help> ?
[09:27] <paer> help: are you looking for a way to change your screen resolution?
[09:27] <danilo_> help: what is the resolution now?
[09:27] <help> it is
[09:27] <help> dunno
[09:27] <help> really high
[09:27] <help> like 1600x1200 probably
[09:27] <danilo_> help: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
[09:27] <paer> help: Computer -> System config -> Screen resolution (maybe just resolution)
[09:28] <liquid> paer, will it just sit there untill its done (its over a gigs worth of stuff that im shifting) ?
[09:28] <help> naa paer thats desktop :P
[09:28] <liquid> paer, cos it doesnt sound like its doing anything
[09:28] <netty> hi everyone! i've followed the guide at the ubuntu wiki to enable acpi suspend to disk, but nothing happens when i close my laptop lid. how can I debug it?
[09:28] <paer> liquid: yep it will.
[09:28] <liquid> but it hasnt given me any errors
[09:28] <help> can edit res in sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
[09:28] <paer> liquid: log in to another terminal window and do a df -h
[09:29] <paer> liquid: then wait some and do another one, and watch if the size has changed. if it has, you're copying :o)
[09:29] <liquid> now the terminal is giving me an inputoutput error
[09:29] <danilo_> liquid: you could use -v to see every file it copies/moves around
[09:29] <paer> liquid: what does it say?
[09:30] <liquid> paer then wait some and do another one, and watch
[09:30] <liquid> oops didnt past the right one
[09:30] <help> danilo, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 doesnt have anything in it about res
[09:30] <paer> liquid: hehe no u didn't :o)
[09:30] <liquid> paer, cp: cannot create directory `/mnt/sda1/files/audacity/voice samples_data': Input/output error
[09:30] <paer> help: so you are fine with the desktop resolution, just not with the gdm resolution? or what?
[09:31] <danilo_> help: at the end it should. Anyway, just backup your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 and try to edit it :-)
[09:31] <liquid> paer, im on a live cd, if that makes a difference
[09:31] <paer> liquid: i have no idea about the live cd. maybe you're trying to copy to cd? that may not work...
[09:31] <liquid> i installed windowsxp and it stuffed up the grub installation, im trying to copy files from linux to a usb hd
[09:31] <liquid> nope, im defenitely not :P
[09:31] <help> zazeem@workgroup:~ $ sudo /etc/X11/XF86Config-4
[09:31] <help> sudo: /etc/X11/XF86Config-4: command not found
[09:32] <paer> liquid: ok. maybe there is some problems with the usb driver?
[09:32] <liquid> the usb hd only has write privelages for root, so i typed sudo fierst
[09:32] <paer> help: sudo gedit ...
[09:32] <paer> help: or sudo cp ... ... for bkup first
[09:32] <help> k
[09:32] <liquid> threr used to be a bunch of files on the hard drive, now theres only 2...;
[09:33] <help> zazeem@workgroup:~ $ sudo cp /etc/X11/XF86Config-4
[09:33] <help> cp: missing destination file
[09:33] <help> Try `cp --help' for more information.
[09:33] <nicodiemus> scizzo: i found this: http://www3.sympatico.ca/howlettfamily/epia/epia_howto/x822.html
[09:33] <paer> liquid: ok maybe the mounted disk was unmounted for some reason?
[09:33] <danilo_> help: .../etc/X11/XF86-backup
[09:33] <paer> help: man cp
[09:33] <liquid> paer, i dont see why.. :P
[09:33] <danilo_> help: or just use the file manager (as root) to copy and edit the file
[09:33] <liquid> im gong to try with "-v" instead
[09:33] <liquid> see if that makes any difference
[09:33] <paer> help: that will tell you that u need to enter a destination file too.
[09:34] <help> zazeem@workgroup:~ $ /etc/X11/XF86-backup cp
[09:34] <help> bash: /etc/X11/XF86-backup: No such file or directory
[09:34] <paer> liquid: yep, that sounds smart. :o)
[09:34] <danilo_> help: Apps->Sys tools->File man. (as superuser) or something like that
[09:34] <danilo_> liquid: use -u to skip files already copied (if you want)
[09:34] <paer> danilo_: how did u get that entry in the menu?
[09:34] <liquid> /mnt/hdb5/home/matthew/Desktop/files
[09:35] <liquid> warty@ubuntu:~ $ sudo cp -v /mnt/hdb5/home/matthew/Desktop/files /mnt/sda1
[09:35] <liquid> cp: omitting directory `/mnt/hdb5/home/matthew/Desktop/files'
[09:35] <danilo_> paer: it's here in hoary... isn't in warty?
[09:35] <liquid> ommitting directory?
[09:35] <paer> help: cp /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 /etc/X11/XF86Config-4-backup
[09:35] <danilo_> liquid: cp -axv
[09:35] <paer> danilo_: not what I can see :o)
[09:35] <paer> danilo_: but it sounds like a good idea. I can't wait for hoary to be stable.
[09:35] <liquid> danilo_, axv?
[09:36] <apokryphos> Hey everyone. Could anyone help me out with some Ubuntu apt sources?
[09:36] <help> anyone know the wii where it showed how to install nvidia or ati stuff? it was really useful
[09:36] <paer> apokryphos: please include what apt sources you are looking for in your question
[09:36] <help> wwiki*
[09:36] <paer> help: google for ubuntu install nvidia
[09:37] <danilo_> paer: -a: include subdirs, etc. -x: skip other filesystems. -v: report progress
[09:37] <help> done that i know its in the wiki just cantt find
[09:37] <apokryphos> paer: Sorry; I just meant an apt sources repository in general. The Universe one I have is *very* dated (just installed Ubuntu today); it has KDE 3.2.... while 3.3 (and even 3.3.2) has been out for quite some time.
[09:37] <paer> help: also, I would believe the wiki has a search function
[09:37] <danilo_> paer: just sudo nautilus in the meantime ;-)
[09:37] <liquid> danilo_, i tried the cp -axv option, it went straight into the input output error
[09:38] <paer> danilo_: yep
[09:38] <paer> apokryphos: you may try multiverse, but I don't know if you will find kde 3.3. I do gnome
[09:38] <randabis-laptop> apokryphos, that's because warty's packages froze quit a while ago
[09:39] <danilo_> liquid: is there valuable data on the usb disk? or only a copy?
[09:39] <liquid> its a backup
[09:39] <liquid> but its not my disk
[09:39] <randabis-laptop> if you want kde 3.3, you either need to get it elsewhere, or use hoary (development release)
[09:39] <paer> apokryphos: just you have to know that multiverse apps may be unstable or make your system unstable
[09:39] <randabis-laptop> it is in hoary's universe
[09:39] <apokryphos> paer: Right, will try that now.
[09:39] <paer> apokryphos: also have a look at randabis answer :o)
[09:39] <liquid> cp: failed to preserve ownership for `/mnt/sda1/files': Operation not permitted
[09:39] <liquid> - could tht be cos im on a live cd? (i just used "sudo"
[09:39] <apokryphos> randabis-laptop: I see; thanks.
[09:39] <Slaven> uh
[09:40] <danilo_> liquid: no, if you are root, you are root everywhere on the system.
[09:40] <Slaven> where the h3ll is my grub.conf?
[09:40] <apokryphos> Not many KDE users on Ubuntu, then?
[09:40] <paer> Slaven: /boot/grub?
[09:40] <liquid> danily_ what im saying is that im not proper root
[09:40] <Slaven> paer: nope
[09:40] <danilo_> liquid: what filesystem is on the usb disk? is not fat, or is it?
[09:40] <liquid> i cant use the perminant root command, cos im on the live cd
[09:40] <liquid> its fat
[09:40] <paer> apokryphos: I have no idea, but I would guess kde users do debian or mandrake
[09:41] <Slaven> don't even have a /boot/grub
[09:41] <danilo_> liquid: fat has *no* support for perms
[09:41] <liquid> oh
[09:41] <liquid> it says that root can write to it
[09:41] <liquid> but noone else
[09:41] <randabis-laptop> apokryphos, not really, it's meant to be a gnome-based distro...there is a kubuntu team out there though that are working to bring the latest kde to hoary (as I said, kde 3.3 is in universe)
[09:41] <Slaven> eh... either I'm blind or stupid, or... I don't have a kernel image in /boot.
[09:41] <paer> Slaven: uhm ok. I do.
[09:42] <wm_eddie> anybody know where I can get the documentation on how to add a new session to GDM?
[09:42] <randabis-laptop> I use XFCE personally :)
[09:42] <paer> Slaven: not that I'm implying anything ;o)
[09:42] <help> how do i get into the nvidia settings panel to set stuff??????
[09:42] <Slaven> oh, boot wasn't even mounted :P
[09:42] <Slaven> hahaha
[09:42] <Slaven> but there's stuff in there anyway
[09:42] <danilo_> liquid: if you want a reliable backup, you should reformat the backup disk as ext3, or reiserfs, or another linux fs
[09:42] <paer> help: nvidia-settings i think
[09:42] <randabis-laptop> Slaven, /boot/grub/menu.lst is probably the closest thing...your kernels should be vmlinuz-*
[09:42] <paer> Slaven: hehe.
[09:43] <randabis-laptop> heh
[09:43] <Slaven> randabis: ofcourse.
[09:43] <apokryphos> randabis-laptop: It's in Universe? Perhaps I'm not following properly... but I've got the Universe repository and it's 3.2
[09:43] <randabis-laptop> apokryphos, you're using ubuntu warty
[09:43] <paer> apokryphos: universe for hoary. maybe that's someting else..
[09:43] <randabis-laptop> that's why
[09:43] <liquid> danilo_ i dont know if im allowed to
[09:44] <liquid> danilo_ could i use a dvd writer with this? or do i have to install software?
[09:44] <danilo_> liquid: is there enough space for your root partition?
[09:44] <linux_mafia> any devs here? or anyone else here running hoary noticed hal dosen't start
[09:44] <apokryphos> randabis-laptop: Sorry, what's the difference? =)
[09:44] <marcin_ant> hello - any news about website contest?
[09:44] <liquid> danilo_ root partition?
[09:44] <randabis-laptop> ubuntu hoary has a lot of bleeding edge packages and is in active development
[09:44] <randabis-laptop> it receives daily package and security updates
[09:44] <paer> marcin_ant: website contest?
[09:44] <danilo_> liquid: the root for ubuntu, the one you are trying to copy
[09:45] <randabis-laptop> warty only receives security updates
[09:45] <randabis-laptop> since hoary is still in development it's considered "unstable"
[09:45] <marcin_ant> paer: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/websitecompetition
[09:45] <liquid> danilo_, theres 70gig free space, so i think so :P
[09:45] <danilo_> liquid: how large is it? (show me df output)
[09:45] <paer> marcin_ant: thx
[09:45] <netmonk> anyone with ubuntu on iBook g3?
[09:45] <randabis-laptop> things might break from time to time, etc...but broken things are generally fixed very quickly
[09:46] <apokryphos> randabis-laptop: But.. it's not a different platform? Technically, what are Warty and Hoary?
[09:46] <randabis-laptop> I currently run hoary on 3 different systems
[09:46] <website> randabis-laptop, how can i upgrade to hoary?
[09:46] <apokryphos> randabis-laptop: If it's got better KDE support, then I'll most probably get it
[09:46] <website> randabis-laptop, do you knwo the differencies between a debian and an ubuntu package?
[09:47] <randabis-laptop> apokryphos, it's the version of ubuntu currently in active development. When it is released in April, it will replace warty
[09:47] <apokryphos> randabis-laptop: Ah, I understand. Will get it now... stability is boring ;-)
[09:47] <randabis-laptop> website, check the ubuntu wiki, HoaryHedgehod section
[09:47] <randabis-laptop> Hedgehog een
[09:47] <randabis-laptop> even
[09:47] <randabis-laptop> blah, laptop keys :p
[09:48] <randabis-laptop> website, generally ubuntu packages have ubuntu in their package name or description
[09:48] <help> k now when i start an opengl game it restarts to login, it changes resolution, hen rebooots to login and nvidia screen :| any idea why this is te error i get -----R_Init ----- ...loading libGL.so.1: Initializing OpenGL display ...setting mode 6: 1024 768 Using XFree86-VidModeExtension Version 2.2 XF86DGA Mouse (Version 2.0) initialized XFree86-VidModeExtension Activated at 1024x768 X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server 
[09:48] <danilo_> liquid: you can use a nasty trick to create an image of the whole file system and store it in a file
[09:48] <apokryphos> GrumpyGroundhog :D What an excellent name
[09:49] <randabis-laptop> GrumpyGroundhog has actually been renamed to Bendy iirc
[09:49] <[amasimak] > website, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GuideToHoary
[09:49] <magnon> Bendy what?
[09:49] <randabis-laptop> Grumpy is going to be something else entirely I think
[09:49] <website> randabis-laptop, it seems to be not true since synaptic determinates if the package is supported into ubuntu
[09:49] <bigbubba> two part question: one is there any place to download new screeensavers for linux and two: where are they to be places so the gnome screensaver option finds them?
[09:50] <website> not by name (i changed the name of a downloaded package)
[09:50] <marcin_ant> paer: "Entries close on January 31st, 2005" so, it could be nice to see some news about this competition
[09:50] <website> thanks [amasimak] 
[09:50] <randabis-laptop> I don't know...it hasn't been officially announced (the name change), but it is likely that the change will be announced soon
[09:50] <paer> marcin_ant: yea I saw that. sad I didn't see it before, would have been nice trying to participate
[09:50] <Slaven> are there any good video editing programs for Linux out ther?
[09:51] <randabis-laptop> website, synaptic will do dependency checks yes
[09:51] <Slaven> like the ones that come out of the box with Windows and Mac OS X?
[09:51] <randabis-laptop> Slaven, I've heard good things about Kino
[09:51] <randabis-laptop> it's pretty basic though
[09:51] <nicodiemus> Good video editing programs come out of the box with Windows/
[09:51] <tux_> Slaven, theres a few, check synaptic
[09:51] <randabis-laptop> there are others
[09:51] <nicodiemus> I think i've been using the wrong version!
[09:51] <website> randabis-laptop, dependencise check if different to discover if a package is stable inot ubuntu system or not
[09:51] <Slaven> nicodiemus: No... that came out wrong. :D
[09:52] <nicodiemus> Hehe.
[09:52] <nicodiemus> :D
[09:52] <Slaven> but I've heard some good stuff about the OS X program, though.
[09:52] <liquid> danilo_ will i be able to retrieve the files at the end of it?
[09:52] <Slaven> I'm checking Kino out.
[09:52] <randabis-laptop> website, yeah, and thus a lot of debian packages can work seemlessly with ubuntu
[09:52] <nicodiemus> Yeah, OSX is actually good for video editing.
[09:52] <otroean2> hi i'm using a Epson Stylus Photo R300 through an windows xp machine and the priting from linux is very slow. The test page took 10-15 minutes
[09:52] <randabis-laptop> Slaven, iMovie?
[09:53] <nicodiemus> And most camcorders i've seen just... work.
[09:53] <liquid> danilo_ the files i want add up to 9.2 gig s
[09:53] <randabis-laptop> supposedly it is very good
[09:53] <Orbo> hi, I just reinstalled ubuntu after a brief and semi-unsuccessful stint with gentoo
[09:53] <Slaven> randabis: yes.
[09:53] <apokryphos> randabis-laptop: I must be real silly, but I can't see the location for the download of Hoary...
[09:53] <hitu> hey i have a ps2 mouse .. so should i select /dev/psaux or /dev/input/mice ?
[09:53] <apokryphos> randabis-laptop: Cancel that. I am being silly. =)
[09:53] <randabis-laptop> apokryphos, you don't have to download an iso
[09:53] <randabis-laptop> change your sources.list
[09:53] <Orbo> I'm currently adding servers back to my repository list and I can't seem to remember one of them, I think It had something to do with source9 or something similar?
[09:54] <website> hitu second one
[09:54] <Slaven> we're shooting a couple of movies this year, and I thought I'd give Linux software a try.
[09:54] <hitu> thanks
[09:54] <apokryphos> randabis-laptop: Just realised. Thanks. =)
[09:54] <nicodiemus> Tbph, Slaven, i don't know any good F/OSS video editing packages for LInux.
[09:54] <randabis-laptop> you may have to run apt-get -f install if anything fails during your dist-upgrade
[09:54] <nicodiemus> If you find one, i'd certainly like to know. ;)
[09:55] <sirjackalot> sorry xchat closed on me before i could get the answer to my questions if anyone answered
[09:55] <thundrcleeze> I'm sure they exist, Slaven
[09:55] <nicodiemus> There are some neat commercial packages around.
[09:56] <paer> sirjackalot: what is your question?
[09:56] <nicodiemus> Smoke and Mirrors or something. Big workstation style stuff.
[09:56] <HrdwrBoB> nicodiemus: Broadcast 2000c
[09:56] <HrdwrBoB> Broadcast2K is dead, you should try Cinelerra (http://heroinewarrior.com/cinelerra.php3) and Kino/dvgrab (http://kino.schirmacher.de/).
[09:56] <sirjackalot> anyone know how to make a virtual network card with vmware? that was one of them and the is how do you add new screensavers and is there a place to find new ones?
[09:56] <nicodiemus> HrdwrBoB, Really? /me hits google
[09:56] <sirjackalot> err sorry about the name
[09:56] <bigbubba> there
[09:56] <LinkMasterSab> Anyone have any idea why my sound quality might be shit on Ubuntu and great on Windows?
[09:57] <paer> bigbubba: i have no idea, sorry
[09:57] <bigbubba> no big deal
[09:57] <nicodiemus> It appears to have been superceded.
[09:57] <bigbubba> just have winblows running in a vm and thought i would try to get it to connect to the net
[09:57] <Slaven> LinkMasterSab: Missing drivers.
[09:57] <Slaven> lsmod | grep snd
[09:57] <liquid> danilo_ , if i use the '-r' command to try to move a folder, it giive s m the input output error, if i use the 'v' command it says "ommitting directory"
[09:58] <bigbubba> only rpoblem is i don't know how to link it to the existing ethernet card
[09:58] <help> hpw do i edit my x config
[09:58] <help> need to change color depth
[09:58] <help> ?
[09:58] <LinkMasterSab> Slaven: Okay, so what am I looking at here?
[09:58] <paer> help: sudo gedit /etc/X11/XF86Config
[09:59] <Slaven> LinkMasterSab: Your loaded sound modules (drivers).
[09:59] <paer> help: add "-4" to that
[09:59] <LinkMasterSab> Okay, but how does that help me?
[09:59] <Slaven> check lspci as well
[09:59] <Slaven> see if you can find your sound card.
[10:00] <randabis-laptop> hey I've found some links for you guys looking for video editing on linux
[10:00] <Slaven> randabis: post.
[10:00] <LinkMasterSab> 0000:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801BA/BAM AC'97 Audio (rev 05)
[10:00] <help> how do i edit my resolutions in x cfg without messing it up??
[10:00] <help> and how do i make a backup whats cmd
[10:00] <randabis-laptop> here's one
[10:00] <randabis-laptop> more to follow
[10:00] <randabis-laptop> http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxCommercialApplications.html
[10:01] <paer> anyone here knows if I can make a desktop link to a X-Chat channel? that is, just double-click the icon and it will open XChat and connect to #ubuntu@freenode?
[10:01] <randabis-laptop> http://www.mainconcept.com/products.shtml
[10:01] <LinkMasterSab> If you tell me I need to buy a new sound card, I'll just go back to Windows :|
[10:01] <Slaven> LinkMasterSab: lsmod | grep snd_ac97_codec <-- that give you anything?
[10:01] <paer> help: cp thefile thefile-backup
[10:01] <randabis-laptop> http://kino.schirmacher.de/
[10:01] <randabis-laptop> http://heroinewarrior.com/cinelerra.php3
[10:01] <LinkMasterSab> Slaven, yes.
[10:01] <randabis-laptop> http://fixounet.free.fr/avidemux/
[10:02] <LinkMasterSab> A few things.
[10:02] <help> any one gunna answer
[10:02] <Slaven> hm... I hade the same problem
[10:02] <Slaven> on Gentoo
[10:02] <randabis-laptop> those are probably the most common ones
[10:02] <LinkMasterSab> ... Did you fix it?
[10:02] <help> ...
[10:02] <Slaven> LinkMasterSab: Yes, by compiling the ac97_codec and loading it.
[10:03] <LinkMasterSab> Okay.
[10:03] <Slaven> but you already have it loaded.
[10:03] <LinkMasterSab> :(
[10:03] <Slaven> so I don't think my situation is applicable here.
[10:03] <randabis-laptop> yeah was just gonna say that
[10:03] <bitfoo> HEY
[10:03] <bitfoo> that cinelerra looks cool O_O
[10:03] <Slaven> randabis: thanks, I'll check them out.
[10:03] <randabis-laptop> you're welcome
[10:03] <sampsa> quit
[10:04] <LinkMasterSab> For some reason, adjusting the Master volume doesn't do anything
[10:04] <bzbb> how do I connect to a printer shared over samba?
[10:05] <Slaven> LinkMaster: Hm.
[10:05] <randabis-laptop> have to know the path to the printer
[10:05] <randabis-laptop> then you can use that path to add the network printer with the gnome printing utility
[10:05] <Slaven> do you use the volume controller in gnome?
[10:05] <LinkMasterSab> The volume changes if I mess with PCM, PCM2, or Headphone
[10:05] <LinkMasterSab> That's what I'm trying
[10:05] <marcin_ant> could someone tell me how to set misc-fixed as gnome-terminal font?
[10:05] <LinkMasterSab> marcin_ant: Edit > Current Profile
[10:06] <terry_> can I upgrade to hoary??
[10:06] <liquidboy> can you burn dvds  with the ubuntu live cd? or cds if i have another cd burner drive
[10:06] <liquidboy> ?
[10:06] <randabis-laptop> if you want to yes you can terry_
[10:06] <marcin_ant> LinkMasterSab: there is no misc fixed on this list
[10:06] <Slaven> LinkMasterSab: Is PCM at highest possible volume?
[10:06] <LinkMasterSab> Oh.
[10:06] <terry_> what are the repositories??
[10:06] <LinkMasterSab> Slaven: No, that really blasted the speakers.
[10:06] <LinkMasterSab> marcin_ant, sorry, no idea.
[10:06] <randabis-laptop> generally all you have to do is change "warty" to "hoary" in your sources.list terry_
[10:06] <Slaven> LinkMasterSab: Even if you turned down the volume on the speakers? 8)
[10:07] <thundrcleeze> Why does the printer default to postscript in almost all my apps, and how do I get remove the postscript stuff, since I don't own a postscript printer?
[10:07] <LinkMasterSab> Slaven: No, don't be stupid :)
[10:07] <LinkMasterSab> Slaven: It seems to be sounding pretty good now
[10:07] <Slaven> cause I just remembered, I had this problem in Ubuntu just recently as well, and it turned out that I'd set the volume control to low volume and then turned up the speakers.
[10:07] <LinkMasterSab> But still, it's weird that Master doesn't do anything
[10:07] <Slaven> by reversing this, setting the volume at max and turning down the speakers, the sound got much clearer.
[10:08] <marcin_ant> LinkMasterSab: do you use gnome-terminal
[10:08] <marcin_ant> ?
[10:08] <LinkMasterSab> marchin_ant: Yes
[10:08] <liquidboy> for who ever was heloping me copy files, for some reason, now i have write permission ... so it's all good *scratches head* but at least its working
[10:08] <randabis-laptop> I use Terminal :)
[10:08] <marcin_ant> LinkMasterSab: and with which font?
[10:09] <LinkMasterSab> system default :|
[10:09] <LinkMasterSab> monospace 12
[10:09] <terry_> what are the repositories for hoary??
[10:09] <bzbb> how do I connect to a windows printer?
[10:09] <terry_> Is there a hoary-security??
[10:09] <Slaven> (I'm using gnome-terminal with AR PL KaitiM GB 12)
[10:09] <Slaven> (a little corny but I like it)
[10:09] <randabis-laptop> terry_, yes
[10:10] <danilo_> liquid: sorry, I was away... r u still here?
[10:10] <randabis-laptop> he just quit :/
[10:10] <shock> I LOVE MY GIRL! :D
[10:10] <shock> sorry about the screaming
[10:10] <shock> *g*
[10:10] <Milda> hi, i have gnoppix 0.8.2.2 now (i've used 0.6.0-rc2 before) a there isn't mplayer, what can i use to play movies?
[10:10] <twentyone> hop hop
[10:10] <danilo_> randabis: oh, well...
[10:10] <[amasimak] > toem ?
[10:10] <Slaven> Milda: xine?
[10:10] <[amasimak] > totem ?
[10:10] <randabis-laptop> gnoppix is a liveCD :p
[10:11] <dholbach> bzbb: can't you search for a network printer in the system's printing dialog, once you shared it in windows?
[10:11] <Milda> Slaven: xine isn't here :(
[10:12] <randabis-laptop> Milda, what about totem?
[10:12] <bzbb> dholbach, system printing dialog?
[10:12] <balc> im trying to get safepeer for azureus to run correctly, but im getting a java error.  I followed the ubuntu guides instructions for java installation.  azureus works, but gives a error when loading the safepeer plugin.  Has anyone else encountered this?
[10:12] <dholbach> bzbb: desktop -> system -> printer
[10:12] <terry_> is warty only for amd64??
[10:13] <randabis-laptop> no
[10:13] <bzbb> dholbach, I run KDE
[10:13] <paer> terry_: no
[10:13] <dholbach> terry_: no
[10:13] <terry_> is hoary newer or older than warty??
[10:13] <Orbo> bzbb, which repository didyou use to get KDE
[10:13] <randabis-laptop> warty has i386, ppc, and AMD65
[10:13] <dholbach> bzbb: don't know how to do it there
[10:13] <randabis-laptop> 64
[10:13] <paer> terry_: newer
[10:13] <apokryphos> terry_:  Newer
[10:13] <randabis-laptop> hoary is newer
[10:13] <terry_> is there an amd64 for hoary??
[10:13] <dholbach> terry_: of course
[10:13] <bzbb> Orbo, I have multiverse, universe, and marrilon enabled
[10:13] <bzbb> for warty
[10:14] <bzbb> its kde 3.2.3
[10:14] <randabis-laptop> he got it from warty universe
[10:14] <terry_> so if I change my sources.list to hoary will it grab the 64 bit packages automagically??
[10:14] <dholbach> terry_: if you use amd64 packages already, yes it does
[10:14] <randabis-laptop> terry_, probably...
[10:14] <terry_> okay cool
[10:14] <liquidboy> ok, so ive got write permission for my usb hard drive, i tried to write a file to it, but it gave me an I/O error
[10:14] <liquidboy> no idea why
[10:14] <terry_> yea I installed from an amd64 netinst iso
[10:15] <dholbach> terry_: it won't ever try to do something else ;-)
[10:15] <bzbb> Orbo, I found the print manager, NM
[10:15] <danilo_> liquidboy: hello again. Isn't it flawed?
[10:15] <Milda> randabis-laptop: thx, i didn't know about totem, but it can't play it ("don't know how to handle video/x-divx... audio/mpeg...")
[10:15] <AndyR> wow i have skype working at last on hoary \o/
[10:15] <terry_> okay amd64 chroot and all that jazz, anyone know a tutorial on installing mplayer??
[10:15] <liquidboy> danilo_ and ti's not displaying all the stuff on the drive
[10:15] <terry_> I want the 32bit windows binaries to work
[10:15] <liquidboy> now its only showing 1 file
[10:15] <liquidboy> but i know theres hepas more on there
[10:15] <randabis-laptop> Milda, probably because it's using totem-gstreamer and doesn't have w32codecs
[10:16] <danilo_> liquid: what file?
[10:16] <paer> liquidboy: you're sure the disk is properly mounted?
[10:16] <dholbach> terry_: it's on the wiki... isnt it?
[10:16] <liquidboy> lol, now its showing none
[10:16] <terry_> dholbach, could be
[10:16] <paer> liquidboy: df -h, does it show you any disk usage?
[10:16] <danilo_> liquidboy: it shows some file at random times?
[10:16] <paer> liquidboy: are u at terminal or in nautilus?
[10:16] <weblin> Anybody know why /etc/acpi/actions/suspend wont suspend my laptop?
[10:16] <liquidboy> nautilus
[10:17] <paer> liquidboy: because, I've been noticing that in nautilus, if I don't have the proper permissions, the folders will disappear from view when I click them once
[10:17] <paer> liquidboy: try starting nautilus with sudo
[10:17] <thundrcleeze> I can't seem to play any streaming mp3 playlists.   Music Player buffers endlessly and hangs, and xmms gives me the "Open File" dialog.
[10:17] <liquidboy> i unmounted it, and mounted it again, but it said "unable... probably no media in the device"
[10:17] <bzbb> ok, whats the difference between the hpijs and the ljet4 driver for a HP laserjet 1100A?
[10:17] <danilo_> liquidboy: try from the terminal. stay root for all the time (sudo su -)
[10:17] <liquidboy> danilo_ i cant do that, im using the live cd
[10:17] <paer> liquidboy: try "mount" and see if it is mounted?
[10:18] <dholbach> bzbb: does it commend something?
[10:18] <paer> isn't "su -" available on live cd?
[10:18] <danilo_> liquidboy: oh. isn't sudo available?
[10:18] <liquidboy> usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
[10:18] <bzbb> dholbach, those are the two drivers I could use
[10:18] <thundrcleeze> it should be.
[10:19] <terry_> it has something about mplayer-386 if I install mplayer-386 on an amd64 system will it automagically chroot or something??
[10:19] <liquidboy> danilo_ yes sudo is avaliable, but i havnt had any luck doign anthing with sudo -s
[10:19] <LinkMasterSab> How would I set the default icon for a file type?
[10:19] <paer> liquidboy: can u see it on the desktop?
[10:19] <dholbach> bzbb: ljet should be okay, if not, you can switch
[10:19] <bzbb> ok
[10:19] <liquidboy> paer, no i cant
[10:19] <liquidboy> only under "disks"
[10:19] <liquidboy> mount: /dev/sda1 is not a valid block device
[10:19] <danilo_> liquidboy: damnit. "gksudo gnome-terminal" works?
[10:20] <apokryphos> randabis-laptop: Sorry to bother you again, and -- not that I can do it just yet -- but with synaptic/apt, what packages would I update now to have Hoary? (I've updated the sources.list)
[10:20] <liquidboy> danilo_ yep that seems to work
[10:20] <paer> liquidboy: uhm. maybe u will have to try to remove the usb disk, reboot, and put it back again? I have no experience about usb disks
[10:20] <liquidboy> hmm
[10:20] <liquidboy> yeah
[10:21] <paer> apokryphos: apt-get update; apt-get upgrade; apt-get dist-upgrade i would think.
[10:21] <randabis-laptop> apokryphos, you have to upgrad everything
[10:21] <randabis-laptop> apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:21] <liquidboy> ive had it in since startup, but this time i unpluged it and pluged it back in again, and it worked (for a bit)
[10:21] <randabis-laptop> brb
[10:21] <Surphaze> can anyone help me, every time I try and install a package im getting locale errors.  It seems I am missing the locale its looking for but I have no idea how to fix that
[10:21] <dholbach> liquidboy: dmesg | tail -n 10   may give you a clue
[10:21] <Surphaze> Ill post an url to the error
[10:21] <apokryphos> cool
[10:21] <weblin> Anybody know why /etc/acpi/actions/suspend wont suspend my laptop?
[10:21] <dholbach> Surphaze: sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[10:21] <danilo_> liquidboy: so, that's the hack: create an image file on the disk with "dd if=/dev/zero of=/mnt/usb/imagefile bs=1M size=(number of megs you need for the backup)"
[10:21] <liquidboy> dholback, theres alot of 'failed' stuff
[10:22] <Surphaze> dholbach, that lists the error
[10:22] <liquidboy> im going to restart and give it one more go
[10:22] <liquidboy> one more question, can i burn cd's / dvd's from the live cd?
[10:23] <danilo_> liquidboy: what's the failed stuff?
[10:23] <dholbach> dholbach: that should create you the locales you need
[10:23] <danilo_> liquidboy: maybe.
[10:23] <apokryphos> 496 Megs :D. Will see ya'll later ;-)
[10:23] <liquidboy> FAT: Directory bread(block 57251) failed
[10:23] <liquidboy> scsi2 (0:0): rejecting I/O to offline device
[10:23] <Surphaze> dholbach, http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/nSBJrx30.html
[10:23] <liquidboy> cos i havnt found any in the apps menu
[10:23] <thundrcleeze> liquidboy,  yes, you can.
[10:23] <danilo_> liquidboy: that's because you unplugged without umounting
[10:23] <danilo_> liquidboy: the errors, i mean
[10:24] <dholbach> Surphaze: did you type the whole command?
[10:24] <liquidboy> oh right
[10:24] <dholbach> Surphaze: did it get on after those warnings?
[10:24] <wm_eddie> anybody know how to change the text that appears at the login prompt?
[10:24] <Surphaze> dholbach, ah yes
[10:24] <Surphaze> dholbach, now its saying locales is not fully installed or broeken
[10:24] <wm_eddie> not the motd the string before that
[10:24] <liquidboy> thundrcleeze, yes i can burn cds with the live cd?
[10:25] <dholbach> Surphaze: sudo apt-get install -f locales
[10:25] <danilo_> liquidboy: he's gone...
[10:25] <liquidboy> oh right
[10:25] <liquidboy> anyway, im rebooting one more go
[10:27] <Mitario> hmm, anyone has an idea why my colors are very weird using totem/mplayer xv output on hoary?
[10:29] <Surphaze> dholbach, http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/M3DZEW97.html
[10:29] <terry_> can I use the marliat repositories with ubuntu??
[10:29] <emanuelez> hello * :)
[10:29] <maximaus> wm_eddie, you can use "sudo gdmconfig" for some login changes, or just edit the gdm theme and search for "Welcome" to in a text editor.
[10:30] <danilo_> Mitario: how did you enable totem on mplayer?
[10:30] <terry_> sorry marillatt, I found some repositories for amd64
[10:30] <paer> terry_: i'm using it without problems, although the packages are of course unsupported
[10:30] <Slaven> now I've got problems with XMMS again.
[10:30] <maximaus> terry_, I use it to, but be careful.
[10:30] <ir> Slaven: whats the problem
[10:30] <ir> :P
[10:30] <terry_> maxmaus, careful doing what??
[10:31] <terry_> if it doesnt work it doesnt work
[10:31] <Slaven> again, this is ONLY when I run music files from nautilus
[10:31] <dholbach> Surphaze: did you hack up any /etc/*locale* -file?
[10:31] <emanuelez> my nautilus does not navitate to applications:/// anymore. any hint?
[10:31] <Slaven> and ONLY when I double-click on the file, not if I right-click -> open with "xmms"
[10:31] <Surphaze> dholbach, no, but when updating I might have told it to take the mainter one
[10:31] <danilo_> emanuelez: it's disabled in hoary
[10:31] <Slaven> so I did at test
[10:31] <paer> terry_: the system may break on broken or incompatible packages
[10:31] <maximaus> terry_,  you can potentially screw things up by using the marillat repositories is something I heard int he rumour mill...
[10:31] <Slaven> letting a pyscript delay the starting of xmms a second
[10:32] <Slaven> to see what happens
[10:32] <emanuelez> danilo_: oh ok... so... how do i add items to the menu?
[10:32] <Slaven> and to my great surprise, the song started anyway.
[10:32] <Slaven> like if played by mplayer
[10:32] <maximaus> emanuelez, just right click in the menu and you'll get a context menu offering you the opportunity.
[10:32] <Slaven> and then, after one second, as I had ordered, started XMMS.
[10:32] <Mitario> danilo_, i ddin't i mean, i tried those two
[10:32] <Mitario> so with xv video output I get garbled colors
[10:32] <danilo_> emanuelez: i think you can't, for now... the menu editing app is being replaced
[10:33] <Slaven> which ofcourse complains on another program already using the output!
[10:33] <danilo_> Mitario: what shows xvinfo?
[10:33] <emanuelez> seems like danilo_ is right
[10:33] <danilo_> Slaven: which program?
[10:33] <Slaven> doesn't say.
[10:33] <Mitario> danilo_, too much ;)
[10:33] <danilo_> Slaven: lsof /dev/dsp
[10:33] <emanuelez> that's cool... not that important
[10:33] <maximaus> danilo_, I can edit my menus fine with Warty. :)
[10:33] <Slaven> danilo_: heh. already tried that.
[10:33] <Slaven> you see.
[10:33] <danilo_> maximaus: but not with current hoary
[10:33] <emanuelez> maximaus: hoary here :)
[10:34] <Slaven> read what I write... I've already told you it opens perfectly with right click on the file -> open with "xmms"
[10:34] <dholbach> Surphaze: damn... dunno what went wrong at your place
[10:34] <Slaven> or xmms <filename> in commandline
[10:34] <maximaus> silly hoary then.
[10:34] <Slaven> this is obviously some problem with nautilus
[10:34] <terry_> ubuntu doesnt install much by default eh
[10:34] <Surphaze> dholbach, im not sure either, its been doing this since install, same disk worked fine on another machine
[10:34] <emanuelez> another problem... my usb pendrive does not automount anymore... no /dev/sda1 so i don't know how to mount it manually
[10:35] <emanuelez> maximaus: not silly... just beta software... being developed as we use it.. and test it :)
[10:35] <Croccifixio> eyequeue sup,pm
[10:35] <danilo_> Slaven: it works for me... which output plugin are u using?
[10:36] <danilo_> emanuelez: what happens when you umount it?
[10:36] <emanuelez> danilo_: well... i cannot umount it since i can't mount it :(
[10:37] <danilo_> you're lucky... i get a hard freeze when I umount my cdrom
[10:37] <danilo_> :-/
[10:38] <emanuelez> daniels: wow LOL
[10:38] <emanuelez> danilo_: :-S
[10:38] <cubex> hello everyone
[10:38] <emanuelez> danilo_: so i guess gnome-volume-manager is broken uh?
[10:38] <emanuelez> hi cubex
[10:38] <cubex> i just paid a visit to #debian on irc.oftc.net, and well, they weren't very friendly....
[10:39] <danilo_> emmanuelez: a little bit. #5446, I think
[10:39] <cubex> heyyy, at least somebody said hi :)
[10:39] <Croccifixio> cubex dont worry g=here everyione is freundly, i was suprised yesterday
[10:39] <Slaven> danilo: ALSA.
[10:39] <emanuelez> cubex: that's why i switched to ubuntu LOL
[10:39] <Surphaze> dholbach, well im just noticing there is no module for iso8859-1
[10:39] <cubex> hehe
[10:39] <danilo_> Slaven: try with oss, or esd...
[10:39] <Surphaze> only a 2 and on
[10:40] <cubex> well, i've been trying to learn some more about ubuntu, i just installed it yesterday... i wanna know what are the major differences between ubuntu and debian?
[10:40] <cubex> there aren't much talks about on google
[10:40] <Guy_Montag> bwuahaha
[10:40] <dholbach> Surphaze: utf-8 is the future
[10:40] <LinkMasterSab> Any chance I could get DirectX progs working under Wine?
[10:40] <cubex> i mean, why not just run debian-unstable?
[10:40] <emanuelez> cubex: well... ubuntu is gnome centered...
[10:40] <Croccifixio> well
[10:40] <Surphaze> dholbach, so try changing it to utf8?
[10:40] <Croccifixio> first of all
[10:40] <danilo_> cubex: just look at ubuntu-users... theres' pretty much traffic
[10:40] <terry_> Can you get Xorg in ubuntu repositories??
[10:40] <cubex> well, debian is... ?
[10:40] <Guy_Montag> Is anyone familiar with bittorent installation on ubuntu?
[10:40] <Croccifixio> the name is completely different, ubuntu doesnt sound like debian at all
[10:40] <dholbach> Surphaze:  suer
[10:40] <danilo_> terry_: yes, it's the default X
[10:41] <cubex> Croccifixio oh c'mon ;)
[10:41] <Croccifixio> as for the rest
[10:41] <Croccifixio> google
[10:41] <emanuelez> cubex: debian is whatever u want it to be LOL
[10:41] <Croccifixio> ***whistles***
[10:41] <terry_> in hoary or warty?? danilo?? Cause mine installed XFree86 4.3
[10:41] <terry_> from debian
[10:41] <max-coffee> Guy_Montag, you wanna install a BT client?
[10:41] <Guy_Montag> yup
[10:41] <iocaste> Guy_Montag: as long as you've got Python running, you can use BitTorrent
[10:41] <cubex> abd ubuntu is....?
[10:41] <Guy_Montag> there's a wiki on it
[10:41] <danilo_> terry_: hoary, sorry
[10:41] <Guy_Montag> but a package seems to be a bit off
[10:41] <Slaven> huh
[10:41] <Croccifixio> cubex whatever you dont want an os to be :P
[10:41] <Schaap> the dictionary in ubuntu, is it stored in one file? if so, where?
[10:41] <Slaven> det r sox som gr igng
[10:41] <terry_> danilo, okay upgrading to hoary now anyways
[10:42] <Schaap> i want to display random words with meanings on my website :)
[10:42] <Guy_Montag> " sudo apt-get install libwxgtk2.4-python bittorent"
[10:42] <Guy_Montag> comes up with
[10:42] <danilo_> terry_: good luck!
[10:42] <Guy_Montag> "Package libwxgtk2.4-python is not available, but is referred to by another package."
[10:42] <max-coffee> Slaven, det r Svensk frbud hr...shhhh
[10:42] <cubex> thing is, i know apt is great
[10:42] <terry_> danilo, why is hoary really unstable??
[10:42] <Guy_Montag> not sure on what to do
[10:42] <emanuelez> cubex: well.. ubuntu is better configured... no need to get crazy to get automount working and so on... at least with stable version...
[10:42] <cubex> having updated packages is even better
[10:42] <Slaven> max-coffee: SHIT :D
[10:42] <Croccifixio> anybody here VERY familiar with ubuntu servers? i mean using it without the gdm ?
[10:42] <KlaasVaag> Guy_Montag: apt-cache search python |grep wxgtk ?
[10:42] <danilo_> terry_: no, but there's always the risk
[10:43] <Slaven> anyway, it's sox that starts
[10:43] <max-coffee> Guy_Montag, just use Azureus like the rest of us. :P
[10:43] <Slaven> and /usr/bin/play
[10:43] <KlaasVaag> try to find a similar package.. its probably renamed slightly
[10:43] <terry_> danilo_, been running debian unstable for like 3 years, I like risks
[10:43] <Guy_Montag> thanks Klass - what does that translate to in english?
[10:43] <cubex> but i don't know... i just don't want to be stuck somewhere
[10:43] <Slaven> isn't that strange? only when I start xmms by double-clicking on a file in nautilus
[10:43] <terry_> sometimes experimental(when new versions of gnome come out)
[10:43] <Croccifixio> anybody here VERY familiar with ubuntu servers? i mean using it without the gdm ?
[10:43] <emanuelez> cubex: stuck? what do u mean?
[10:43] <KlaasVaag> it searches for all packages with python in the name or desription.. and then filters out all ocurrences with wxgtk in the name/description
[10:43] <danilo_> Slaven: something's wrong... nautilus is lying! ;-)
[10:43] <cubex> well you know how you get stuck to a certain distribution?
[10:43] <terry_> danilo, only tried Ubuntu cause I felt obligated after they sent me a whole wack of CDs
[10:43] <tritium> Croccifixio, don't repeat please
[10:44] <Guy_Montag> ok
[10:44] <cubex> you configure it, spent time on it, customize, etc...
[10:44] <Guy_Montag> let's see what happens...
[10:44] <Slaven> danilo_: I got it from ps aux, are you suggesting that ps aux is lying? are you? huh? huh? ;)
[10:44] <cubex> and then if it stops getting support, you're stuck
[10:44] <Slaven> ps aux is NEVER lying.
[10:44] <Slaven> it sees all and KNOWS ALL
[10:44] <dreamwave> i'm using the  live hoary CD.  so far, all is wonderful.  but... my resolution is at 640x480.  How do I increase it? I've got a Dell inspirion 8200 with the nvidia gforce440go video card.
[10:44] <danilo_> terry: definitely, you know your way
[10:44] <cubex> to be honest, it's the same feeling i had when i first tried gentoo.. problem is, i come from a gentoo background, where 0day stuff is pretty common... but i'm tired of
[10:44] <[amasimak] > do anybody know if it is by design that dma is not enabled for my cdrom drive, or if it is a bug ?
[10:44] <cubex> ... of compiling all day long
[10:45] <KlaasVaag> Guy_Montag: it comes with an alternative package probably.. and then you should install that..
[10:45] <tarzeau> [amasimak] : it's ok
[10:45] <emanuelez> cubex: i know what u mean... well.. i never got stuck so far with ubuntu... the community is very good. packages are updated very often.
[10:45] <cubex> emanuelez so can you just tell me why not debian-unstable?
[10:45] <tarzeau> emanuelez: do they have an online list of pkgs, like packages.d.o ?
[10:45] <cubex> emanuelez i'm really just trying to make up my mind here
[10:45] <Guy_Montag> ok
[10:45] <Guy_Montag> odd
[10:45] <Guy_Montag> it doesn't come up with any packages
[10:46] <KlaasVaag> i know for a fact that it is in hoary.. maybe you could consider upgrading?
[10:46] <terry_> okay thanks alot everybody, I think me and Ubuntu will get along just nicely
[10:46] <Guy_Montag> hmmm
[10:46] <danilo_> cubex: if yoy are a gnome user, and you want a stable desktop, ubuntu can be right for you. if you end up running kde and unstable... well, there's not much difference
[10:46] <cubex> danilo_ but can't i use kde with ubuntu?
[10:46] <KlaasVaag> cubex: you can
[10:47] <emanuelez> cubex: better support, better community. all u can do with ubuntu can be done with debian. but if it happens u get stuck then u'll most likely find a solution here. #debian people are way too posh LOL
[10:47] <KlaasVaag> without any problems..
[10:47] <Slaven> hm
[10:47] <Slaven> it worked out well
[10:47] <danilo_> cubex: yes, but it's the same packages from debian.
[10:47] <agx> [Q]  if i use KDE under ubuntu and install some package it is not showed up into the menu, why/how?
[10:47] <cubex> emanuelez yeah, i figured that out myself today
[10:47] <Slaven> I just disabled previewing audio files in nautilus configuration. d'oh.
[10:47] <danilo_> cubex: the community is really, really nice
[10:47] <emanuelez> cubex: if u're a kde fan then ubuntu is not the distro for u LOL maybe u should try mepis
[10:47] <Guy_Montag> I'm not sure what version I'm using - how do I check to see if it's warty or hoary?
[10:47] <cubex> danilo_ but how "ubuntu'ized" are they?
[10:47] <Slaven> can't see how anyone would think it's a good idea to preview audio on doubleclicking, but now it works.
[10:47] <help> anyone in here ever install unreal tournament ?
[10:48] <KlaasVaag> Guy_Montag: check /etc/apt/sources.list for the deb-lines..
[10:48] <cubex> emanuelez mepis is debian too?
[10:48] <Guy_Montag> ok
[10:48] <cardador> help: i did
[10:48] <help> swweeet
[10:48] <help> what did u put for path
[10:48] <danilo_> cubex: very little, for now. but in the future, it's going to change (it's changing already)
[10:48] <help> install path and link path
[10:48] <cardador> help: unreal tournament 2004?
[10:48] <danilo_> cubex: see Kubuntu page on the wiki
[10:48] <help> i dunno how/what
[10:48] <help> no
[10:48] <Gigs> can someone please seed the amd64 iso torrent for warty?  I have a T3 and will leave mine running a while after
[10:48] <emanuelez> cubex: indeed
[10:48] <help> normal ut
[10:48] <agx> [Q]  if i use KDE under ubuntu and install some package it is not showed up into the menu, why/how?
[10:49] <cubex> danilo_ is there a reason for this fork?
[10:49] <Guy_Montag> warty 4.10
[10:49] <cardador> help: install path should be smt like /home/help/ut/
[10:49] <Guy_Montag> what is it up to now?
[10:49] <cardador> help: link path -> /home/help/
[10:49] <danilo_> cubex: don't know if it's really a fork or a collaboration. but the release times at least can't be the same
[10:49] <help> what about this /usr/local/games/ut
[10:49] <KlaasVaag> Guy_Montag: dont know.. im with hoary now..
[10:49] <manson_dgs> hola
[10:49] <Guy_Montag> heh
[10:49] <Guy_Montag> ok
[10:49] <KlaasVaag> check the site..
[10:49] <cubex> danilo_ no i meant ubuntu forking from debian
[10:49] <Guy_Montag> what's the fastest way to update?
[10:50] <manson_dgs> de donde son en esta sala
[10:50] <cardador> help: to install to that path youll need permission
[10:50] <Surphaze> dholbach, ah ha!
[10:50] <cardador> help: try to install it with sudo
[10:50] <help> no wonder
[10:50] <help> k
[10:50] <KlaasVaag> Guy_Montag: graphically or using apt directly?
[10:50] <Guardiann> hello boys
[10:50] <KlaasVaag> synaptic does a nice job actually
[10:50] <help> zazeem@workgroup:~ $ sudo ut-install-436-GOTY.run
[10:50] <help> sudo: ut-install-436-GOTY.run: command not found
[10:50] <Guy_Montag> eh, apt is good
[10:50] <help> if i use sh it works
[10:50] <help> lol
[10:50] <help> :(
[10:50] <cubex> OMG! It even powered off my PC!! Fedora didn't even do it on x64
[10:50] <danilo_> cubex: because debian is the best in the world to be used as base for an os, it's rock solid and everything but it lacks good release mgmt
[10:51] <Guy_Montag> is there a GUI for updating?
[10:51] <KlaasVaag> ok.. change all occurances of 'warty' in /etc/apt/sources.list to 'hoary'
[10:51] <regeya> excellent.
[10:51] <KlaasVaag> then hit: apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:51] <KlaasVaag> Guy_Montag: there is.. but what i just said should work correctly..
[10:51] <cubex> regeya use ubuntu ;)
[10:51] <nunofgs> hey guys, I can see that xmltv is on the universe repository through google, but it doesnt show up on my synaptic... I want to install mythtv and I need it
[10:51] <Guy_Montag> heh
[10:51] <Guy_Montag> ok
[10:51] <Schaap> Hey, where are the fortune files located?
[10:51] <Guy_Montag> let's try that and see what happens
[10:51] <KlaasVaag> Guy_Montag: good luck..
[10:51] <cubex> danilo_ well, then why not just take the packages and layer release management on top of it? why customize packages?
[10:52] <danilo_> nunofgs: enable universe repos
[10:52] <KlaasVaag> Guy_Montag: i'll be away for a while.. im sure others will help you further.. else you can always PM me..
[10:52] <cubex> danilo_ isn't that like splitting hairs?
[10:52] <nunofgs> danilo_: it is
[10:52] <Guardiann> danilo your a busy man
[10:52] <danilo_> cubex: don't know... maybe to provide better desktop integration
[10:52] <danilo_> nunofgs: have you reloaded (updated)?
[10:53] <danilo_> Guardiann: :-)
[10:53] <nunofgs> danilo_: yep. I'm actually doing a dist-upgrade right now, since I installed from warty yesterday
[10:53] <nunofgs> danilo_: but I have main, universe and multiverse enabled
[10:53] <cubex> danilo_ oh well, i've got nothing to lose, i can use it for the next couple of months and see what it can do. if something goes wrong, i'll just move my /home somewhere else
[10:53] <danilo_> nunofgs: so, it's working
[10:53] <cubex> thanks a lot guys, i really mean it :D
[10:53] <nunofgs> danilo_: yes, but xmltv doesn't show up. can you check if it shows up for you please?
[10:53] <danilo_> cubex: that's the reason why i switched to ubuntu: try something new ;-)
[10:53] <cubex> yyep
[10:53] <Guardiann> cubex I think you will like ubuntu
[10:54] <danilo_> ... and still be with debian, somehow (look at the developers' names)
[10:54] <cubex> Guardiann first impressions matter you know
[10:54] <Guardiann> they sure do
[10:54] <cubex> Guardiann and ubuntu really got it
[10:54] <cubex> Guardiann http://www.ramikayyali.com/archives/2005/02/01/ubuntu
[10:54] <cubex> that's my personal first impression
[10:54] <danilo_> nunofgs: could be in hoary only...
[10:54] <Guardiann> thats why I installed and I keep it now cause I am really liking it
[10:55] <cubex> Guardiann let's just hope it'll stay updated
[10:55] <Guardiann> so far so good
[10:55] <Guardiann> warty has been rock solid for me
[10:55] <luis_> oy.
[10:55] <luis_> so
[10:55] <cubex> Guardiann but i think i'll just upgrade to hoary
[10:55] <nunofgs> danilo_: :(
[10:55] <Guardiann> Hoary has been as well with a couple of small glitches
[10:55] <nunofgs> does anyone have mythtv working on ubuntu?
[10:55] <cubex> Guardiann i neeeed X.org
[10:56] <Guardiann> i am running hoary on this machine
[10:56] <Guardiann> about 2 weeks now
[10:56] <cubex> Guardiann stable?
[10:56] <Guardiann> for me yes
[10:56] <danilo_> nunofgs: try 'apt-cache policy kmail'. (it's a universe pkg). what shows?
[10:56] <cubex> Guardiann no crashes, no hacked fixed?
[10:57] <Guardiann> Nope and I have updated every day for 2 weeks
[10:57] <help> is it better than warty??
[10:57] <cubex> Guardiann i think i'm falling in love
[10:57] <Guardiann> lol hey I am married
[10:57] <cubex> help it has X.org
[10:57] <Guardiann> :)
[10:57] <cubex> loll
[10:57] <nunofgs> danilo_: installed: (none) candidate: 4:3.2.2-2 etc etc
[10:57] <dreamwave> is there a graphical X configurator thingie in ubuntu live?
[10:57] <help> x.org?
[10:57] <cubex> help the new xfree86
[10:57] <danilo_> nunofgs: then universe is enabled.
[10:58] <danilo_> nunofgs: you'll have to upgrade, wait, or backport it
[10:58] <cubex> errr
[10:58] <cubex> it's help: the new xfree86
[10:58] <cubex> why in the world would i want to help xfree86?!!
[10:59] <cubex> well, i guess i'll go now play with ubuntu.....
[10:59] <Guardiann> have fun :)
[10:59] <cubex> thanks a lot everything :)
[10:59] <help> meaning runs games better?
[10:59] <help> without pipe break
[10:59] <danilo_> cubex: have fun
[10:59] <help> cubex
[10:59] <help> try
[10:59] <help> enemy territory
[10:59] <cubex> help: yyep, you better try it
[10:59] <help> and tell me if it works
[10:59] <cubex> help: i will, and get back to you
[10:59] <cubex> but for now..
[10:59] <help> thnx :D
[10:59] <Guardiann> now i bet he was a warty user :)
[10:59] <help> its free
[11:00] <cubex> bye
[11:00] <help> bye
[11:00] <help> :)O
[11:00] <liquidboy> so, how do i burn a cd from the live cd then?
[11:00] <luis_> hrm
[11:00] <AndyR> how do i edit menu's in hoary? nautilus applications:///Internet doesnt work
[11:00] <luis_> what is the text X configurator? or is hoary still preferring editing of the config files by hand if initial install fails?
[11:01] <danilo_> AndyR: doesn't still work in hoary, sorry
[11:01] <AndyR> is there another way?
[11:02] <nunofgs> btw, last night I formatted, installed a clean warty, changed all the repositories to hoary and let it upgrade everything. In the morning everything was horribly broken. X wouldn't start, there was no font server... a huge mess
[11:03] <AndyR> nunofgs, rerun it, mine failed first time
[11:03] <nunofgs> AndyR: already fixed up my warty :/ dont feel like ruining it
[11:03] <AndyR> oh ok
[11:04] <hitu> hey where can i check my boot-up logs
[11:04] <hitu> i think i saw somethin like "emu10k1 disabled in configuration" or somethin
[11:04] <HrdwrBoB> hitu: that's correct
[11:04] <HrdwrBoB> that's the OSS driver
[11:04] <HrdwrBoB> ubuntu uses ALSA
[11:04] <AndyR> any other united kingdom ubuntu users here?
[11:04] <hitu> is it normal ?
[11:04] <HrdwrBoB> the sound drivers are stull loaded
[11:04] <hitu> my sound works though
[11:04] <HrdwrBoB> yes, that's normal
[11:04] <KlaasVaag> Guy_Montag: any luck?
[11:04] <HrdwrBoB> yes
[11:05] <hitu> okay
[11:05] <HrdwrBoB> that's because there's two emu10k1 drivers
[11:05] <hitu> also my DVD-Rom doesn get detected
[11:05] <hitu> i tried the ubuntuguide
[11:05] <hitu> didn help
[11:06] <nunofgs> so, nobody has mythtv installed on ubuntu?
[11:06] <hitu> mount: mount point /media/cdrom is a symbolic link to nowhere
[11:06] <christor_> Hello, I have a problem of Keyboard which is configured fine into Gnome but not on a console mode. It is a problem to login to Gnome using gdm . How modify Keyboard option?
[11:06] <hitu> oh well its a Combo drive CD-RW/DvdRom
[11:06] <KlaasVaag> hitu: tried 'mount /dev/cdrom /mnt' ?
[11:07] <KlaasVaag> or replace /mnt by any folder you like it to be mounted :)
[11:07] <spiral> KlaasVaag: why on ubuntu ? they are lsb compliant & use /media
[11:07] <christor_> hitu: please take a look if your folder /media/cdrom exisst
[11:07] <hitu> mount: special device /dev/cdrom does not exist
[11:07] <KlaasVaag> spiral: ok.. im not aware of that..
[11:07] <christor_> hitu: Take a cat /etc/fstab
[11:08] <hitu> root@kinky:/home/hitu # ls /media/
[11:08] <hitu> cdrom
[11:08] <Dreamer3_> kinky lol
[11:08] <liquidboy> does anyone know?
[11:08] <Guy_Montag> oh
[11:08] <Guy_Montag> hey Klass
[11:08] <hitu> ehehe
[11:08] <Guardiann> :)
[11:08] <hitu> /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom   udf,iso9660 ro,user,auto  0       0
[11:08] <KlaasVaag> hey Guy_Montag
[11:08] <amblin> anyone running hoary on a t40 laptop, having problems with builtin wifi nic(ipw2100) resetting or generally being slow?
[11:08] <hitu> cdrom is on hdc right ? :S
[11:08] <christor_> ok
[11:08] <Guy_Montag> trying to edit sources.list
[11:08] <KlaasVaag> hitu: it can be :)
[11:08] <Guy_Montag> but don't have the permissions
[11:08] <christor_> hitu: mount /dev/hdc
[11:08] <Guy_Montag> how...
[11:08] <Guy_Montag> hum
[11:09] <KlaasVaag> Guy_Montag: try 'sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list'
[11:09] <christor_> It will mount in /media/cdrom
[11:09] <Guy_Montag> there's SU
[11:09] <luis_> hrm
[11:09] <hitu> mount /dev/hdc
[11:09] <hitu> mount: mount point /media/cdrom is a symbolic link to nowhere
[11:09] <Guy_Montag> ok
[11:09] <luis_> sweret
[11:09] <luis_> fresh install of the latest daily left me with a blank /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:09] <KlaasVaag> Guy_Montag: of course you could replace nano by your favourite text editor
[11:09] <andrewski> my CD-ROM will mount for data CDs, but will not read for audio discs; can anyone help?
[11:09] <christor_> hitu: I understand try this mount /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0
[11:10] <Guy_Montag> ok
[11:10] <Guy_Montag> yeaahhh
[11:10] <Guy_Montag> nano does not seem to be installed
[11:10] <snoopdogg> i need help?
[11:10] <Guy_Montag> gedit will work correct
[11:10] <Guy_Montag> ?
[11:10] <KlaasVaag> sure
[11:10] <christor_> Ohoh try a little question : What is your favorite  editor?
[11:10] <hitu> doesn work either christor_
[11:10] <KlaasVaag> Guy_Montag: any editor will do
[11:10] <Guy_Montag> od
[11:11] <Guy_Montag> er
[11:11] <Guy_Montag> odd
[11:11] <christor_> hitu: what message?
[11:11] <hitu> mount: mount point /media/cdrom0 does not exist
[11:11] <hitu> :P
[11:11] <snoopdogg> i need help and send me if u have a ps2 pls?
[11:11] <Guy_Montag> "Unknown id: gedit
[11:11] <Guy_Montag> "
[11:11] <Guy_Montag> same with nano
[11:11] <hitu> snoopdogg: whats that
[11:11] <christor_> hitu: lol ok mkdir /media/cdrom0 (it s a "0" and not a "o"
[11:11] <KlaasVaag> Guy_Montag: you are in a Gnome now?
[11:11] <Folletto> ma esiste ut per ubuntu ?
[11:11] <Guy_Montag> yup
[11:12] <hitu> yah "0"
[11:12] <hitu> :D
[11:12] <KlaasVaag> Guy_Montag: open synaptic then
[11:12] <Guy_Montag> synaptic?
[11:12] <christor_> hitu:  it works?
[11:12] <hitu> works
[11:12] <hitu> thanks
[11:12] <hitu> :D
[11:12] <Guy_Montag> this is so different from solaris... *shakes head*
[11:12] <andrewski> can anyone help me figure out why my CD-ROM will not read audio discs?
[11:12] <Dreamer3_> Guy_Montag: solaris? :)
[11:12] <Dreamer3_> Guy_Montag: what's diff?
[11:13] <Dreamer3_> andrewski: not read or not play?
[11:13] <KlaasVaag> Guy_Montag: its somewhere in your menus :)
[11:13] <Guy_Montag> old, clunky, no nice apps
[11:13] <andrewski> Dreamer3_: both. :)
[11:13] <christor_> hitu:  to not have problem modify your /etf/fstab with media/cdrom to media/cdrom0 youo will be able to us mnt /dev/hdc further
[11:13] <Dreamer3_> andrewski: it reads data discs?
[11:13] <andrewski> Dreamer3_: yes.
[11:13] <hitu> oh yah did that christor_ :)
[11:13] <snoopdogg> http://www.supercheats.com/playstation2/walkthroughs/onimusha3demonsiege-walkthrough03.txt
[11:13] <snoopdogg> i am on leavle 7
[11:14] <liquidboy> um, is anyone going to answer me?
[11:14] <andrewski> yes. :P
[11:14] <snoopdogg> i need help?
[11:15] <andrewski> any ideas Dreamer3_?
[11:15] <HrdwrBoB> snoopdogg: you're telling me
[11:15] <Guy_Montag> aha
[11:15] <Guy_Montag> found it
[11:15] <AndyR> anyone found a way to edit menus in hoary?
[11:15] <KlaasVaag> great..
[11:15] <Guy_Montag> package update GUI..
[11:15] <Guy_Montag> ahh
[11:15] <KlaasVaag> go to preferences: repositories..
[11:15] <snoopdogg> i need help?
[11:15] <andrewski> AndyR: which DE?
[11:15] <Guy_Montag> check
[11:15] <snoopdogg> all
[11:15] <KlaasVaag> Guy_Montag: settings->repositories actually..
[11:16] <Guy_Montag> already there
[11:16] <HrdwrBoB> liquidboy: places: CD creater
[11:16] <AndyR> andrewski, gnome
[11:16] <HrdwrBoB> creator
[11:16] <HrdwrBoB> drag files onto it
[11:16] <KlaasVaag> and then edit each of the repositories, change warty to hoary
[11:16] <HrdwrBoB> file: burn to cd
[11:16] <andrewski> AndyR: gnome is loading the system menu; you could edit that....
[11:16] <HrdwrBoB> or if you want to burn an iso
[11:16] <HrdwrBoB> right click it
[11:16] <HrdwrBoB> and hit write to disc
[11:16] <HrdwrBoB> inserting a blank CD will automagically bring up the CD creator window
[11:16] <liquidboy> HrdwrBoB, im not sure i follow you
[11:16] <liquidboy> do i write that into a termianl / address bar in nautulus?
[11:17] <Guy_Montag> what's the first one listing the CD warty?
[11:17] <HrdwrBoB> liquidboy: in the menu
[11:17] <KlaasVaag> Guy_Montag: leave that alone
[11:17] <HrdwrBoB> 'places'
[11:17] <Guy_Montag> roger
[11:17] <KlaasVaag> or remove it...
[11:17] <liquidboy> which menu?
[11:18] <HrdwrBoB> the places menu
[11:18] <HrdwrBoB> open any nautilus window
[11:18] <HrdwrBoB> there is a places menu
[11:18] <Guy_Montag> done
[11:18] <liquidboy> HrdwrBoB, oh right6, found it... so i just drag/drop files there then?
[11:19] <jkka> http://www.saunalahti.fi/jukkho/Screenshot020205.png
[11:19] <HrdwrBoB> liquidboy: yep
[11:19] <liquidboy> ok thanks
[11:19] <KlaasVaag> Guy_Montag: then use: Reload, mark all updates, apply..
[11:19] <KlaasVaag> Guy_Montag: and take a break then :)
[11:19] <HrdwrBoB> jkka: ouch -2
[11:19] <KlaasVaag> maybe read a 400 page book :P
[11:19] <Guy_Montag> ooo
[11:20] <Guy_Montag> how long does this usually take over a cable connection?
[11:20] <KlaasVaag> but of course you can do this later also..
[11:20] <snarky> im trying to upgrade to hoary, and i got the error message that follows
[11:20] <snarky> Errors were encountered while processing:
[11:20] <snarky>  /var/cache/apt/archives/gimp-data_2.2.2-1ubuntu1_all.deb
[11:20] <snarky> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[11:20] <KlaasVaag> Guy_Montag: just do it.. it'll give you an indication..
[11:20] <KlaasVaag> and you can always cancel it
[11:21] <bagpuss_thecat> anyone know why Hoary would fail to boot, with the grub error "Error 15: File not found" after an upgrade?
[11:21] <Guy_Montag> ok
[11:21] <warty_> hi people
[11:21] <bagpuss_thecat> the kernel and initrd images are all present and accesable from the grub command line
[11:21] <Guy_Montag> what's abiword?
[11:21] <KlaasVaag> Guy_Montag: for me it was a 700 MB download.. but i have kde installed also..
[11:22] <Ribs> Guy_Montag: a nice alternative to openoffice if you only want a word processor
[11:22] <Guy_Montag> ah
[11:22] <Guy_Montag> ok
[11:22] <Guy_Montag> cool
[11:23] <crash-testing> well, i just started the ubunutu live cd but doesnt know the root password..can anyone help please?
[11:24] <HrdwrBoB> crash-testing: there is no root password
[11:24] <snarky> crash-testing: just do sudo passwd
[11:24] <snarky> crash-testing: then you can set it
[11:25] <HrdwrBoB> snarky: please don't just say that
[11:25] <HrdwrBoB> crash-testing: you can use sudo to run things as root
[11:26] <crash-testing> ah,k,thx snarky
[11:26] <snarky> crash-testing: np
[11:33] <bitfoo> bitfoo@horus:~ $ cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/state
[11:33] <bitfoo> present:                 yes
[11:33] <bitfoo> ERROR: Unable to read battery status
[11:33] <bitfoo> :(
[11:33] <Stugss> alguem do brasil?
[11:33] <bitfoo> i failed again :|
[11:35] <netmonk> hello
[11:36] <netmonk> can anyone tell me why I don't see any packages in synaptic even though they are reloaded?
[11:38] <_mvo_> netmonk: do you run it on a apple?
[11:38] <netmonk> yes
[11:39] <netmonk> g3, 300mhz, 288 ram
[11:39] <akurashy> is there a way to unzip .rar in ubuntu?
[11:39] <_mvo_> netmonk: it's a known bug in the warty version of synaptic that only happens on ppc
[11:39] <netmonk> hm...
[11:39] <_mvo_> netmonk: there is a updated package available on http://people.ubuntu.com/~mvo/synaptic/warty
[11:39] <snoopdogg> i need help?
[11:40] <mojo__> Hello party people!  I got a strange one for ya... Upon login to GNOME I get error that a gnome-panel is already running.  I open a terminal, killall gnome-panel, and gnome-panel& (which works), but next time around it's second verse, same as the first... :/
[11:40] <_mvo_> netmonk: remove the /root/.synaptic/ dir before you install the new package
[11:40] <mojo__> What is the right way to fix this?  Is this a session manager problem?
[11:41] <crimsun> mojo__: are you running hoary? if so, when was the last time you updated && dist-upgraded?
[11:41] <netmonk> _mvo_, I could see them 10 minutes ago
[11:41] <mojo__> akurashy: You need to apt-get install rar and file roller will then open those for ya
[11:41] <mojo__> crimsun: yes, and maybe yesterday or day before
[11:42] <akurashy> mojo__: i did that and it didnt install
[11:42] <akurashy> Package rar is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[11:42] <akurashy> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[11:42] <akurashy> is only available from another source
[11:42] <akurashy> E: Package rar has no installation candidate
[11:42] <mojo__> akurashy: did it give errors?  maybe you didn't sudo the cmd.  I should typed sudo in my example
[11:42] <_mvo_> netmonk: the bug is triggered when you open the "preferences" window and it sets all columns to "disabled". so the packages are there, they are just not visible
[11:42] <netmonk> aha
[11:43] <netmonk> _mvo_, that's exactly what I did
[11:43] <akurashy> with or without sudo is the same, and it didnt install
[11:43] <_mvo_> netmonk: http://people.ubuntulinux.org/~mvo/synaptic/warty/synaptic_0.53.4-1ubuntu6_powerpc.deb
[11:43] <mojo__> akurashy: so it won't even show up in synaptic?  what version you runnin, hoary or warty?
[11:43] <netmonk> _mvo_, what is this?
[11:43] <akurashy> warty
[11:44] <crimsun> akurashy: it's in multiverse last I checked
[11:44] <mojo__> aku: okay i have hoary set up so maybe it's not there for you, dunno...  maybe google for rar.deb
[11:44] <_mvo_> netmonk: it's a updated version. you have to download it and then install it with "sudo dpkg -i synaptic_0.53.4-1ubuntu6_powerpc.deb"
[11:44] <akurashy> i have all repo enabled =/
[11:44] <akurashy> it doesnt appear =/
[11:44] <crimsun> akurashy: are you running hoary or warty?
[11:44] <vishal> hi..i need some help with hoary..anyone??
[11:45] <akurashy> warty
[11:45] <crimsun> akurashy: it's definitely in warty/multiverse: 3.30-2 0 500 http://archive.ubuntu.com warty/multiverse Packages
[11:45] <netmonk> _mvo_, do I need to uninstall anything before that?
[11:45] <hitu> ok does nicotine work for any of u guys
[11:45] <crimsun> hitu: yes, why?
[11:46] <hitu> crimsun: not connecting for me
[11:46] <hitu> got it via apt-get
[11:46] <crimsun> mojo__: try this: pkill -u $USER, then log back in
[11:46] <_mvo_> netmonk: no, it will just update the synaptic package, nothing more. you will have to reenable all the columns in the preferences window or remove the /root/.synaptic/ dir after the update
[11:47] <akurashy> crimsun: can you give me the repo link so i can add it to sources
[11:47] <saif> hi every1, just got a network running with 1 windows and 1 ubuntu machines, is their a gui where i can do settings for samba?? i managed to connect to the window machine, but whnever i try to connect to ubuntu i am requested ro provide my username and password, which username and password?!?
[11:47] <vishal> hi..i just upgraded warty to hoary and now i can't find synaptic manager..anyone know how i can access it?
[11:47] <mojo__> crimsun: okay I can try that... bbiaf
[11:47] <crimsun> akurashy: you already have it. Just enable it in Synaptic>Settings>Repositories
[11:47] <akurashy> is enabled
[11:47] <_mvo_> vishal: should be in Desktop/Administration/Synaptic
[11:47] <crimsun> 17:47 < akurashy> is enabled
[11:48] <crimsun> err, sorry
[11:48] <crimsun> akurashy: did you Update afterward?
[11:48] <hikaru79> If I have a home LAN and I want to be able to SSH amongst all of them (From outside the lan, not just within), but they're all going through the same router and therefore have the same external IP address, how does one connect to a specific machine from the outside?
[11:48] <vishal> _mvo..its not there!!
[11:48] <hikaru79> Do they all need to have different port ranges?
[11:48] <hikaru79> And if so, how do I set an SSH server to listen on differen ports?
[11:48] <kebac_> hikaru79: you set up a port forwarding
[11:48] <akurashy> crimsun: yes i reloaded and looked into it, no packages =/
[11:48] <_mvo_> vishal: can you try "ALT-F2" and then enter "gksudo /usr/sbin/synaptic"?
[11:48] <bitfoo> yes portforwarding on your router :O
[11:48] <kebac_> hikaru79: you can set sshd listen ports by tuning /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[11:49] <bitfoo> yes my precioussss
[11:49] <crimsun> akurashy: /join #flood, paste the output of ,,apt-cache policy rar''
[11:49] <hikaru79> Thanks, kebac_ =D
[11:49] <Vjaz> Hm... is evolution-data-server really *required* by gnome-panel? It's a dependency, but I'm a bit puzzled.
[11:49] <mojo__> crimsun: that worked, thanks!
[11:50] <hikaru79> kebac_, can I choose any unoccupied ports for the others? The first one is 22...so can I use 23, 25, 26, etc?
[11:50] <crimsun> mojo__: np. It _should_ be resolved in Hoary...
[11:50] <kebac_> hikaru79: sure you can
[11:50] <hikaru79> Thanks, kebac_ ^_^
[11:50] <vishal> _mvo..i got the password prompt and after that nothing loads up
[11:50] <vishal> no error msg either
[11:50] <kebac_> hikaru79: you can use any unoccupied port between 1-65535
[11:50] <netmonk> _mvo_, how do you make flash work for you?
[11:50] <hikaru79> =)
[11:51] <liquidboy> how do i boot into my ubuntu partition using the live cd? can it be done? (grub is stuffed up cos i installed windows xp)
[11:51] <crimsun> liquidboy: yes, just chroot into your ubuntu partition
[11:51] <hikaru79> kebac_, OK, after I've done that, what do I use to restart the sshd server?
[11:51] <mojo__> crimsun: I have been on hoary for a while... It didn't show up 'till recently.  If it comes back I'll worry 'bout it more then.
[11:51] <liquidboy> crimsun, you mean once ive booted into the live cd the whole way? do i type somethign in the terminal?
[11:51] <crimsun> hikaru79: sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[11:52] <_mvo_> netmonk: swf-player _may_ give you flash. but I don't know if there is a "offical" flash for linux/ppc (sorry I don't own a ppc)
[11:52] <kebac_> crimsun got it first :)
[11:52] <kebac_> crimsun: but is it not /etc/init.d/sshd restart?
[11:52] <crimsun> kebac_: you need root privileges to restart sshd
[11:52] <crimsun> kebac_: so unless you're already root...
[11:52] <hikaru79> I think he means you missed a 'd' on 'sshd'
[11:53] <kebac_> crimsun: i meant, you typed ssh, not sshd
[11:53] <crimsun> no, it's ssh
[11:53] <kebac> crimsun: ok... i am kinda new to this linux world
[11:53] <vishal> _mvo..i got the password prompt and after that nothing loads up
[11:53] <vishal> no error msg either
[11:53] <akurashy> crimsun: http://pastebin.com/236468
[11:54] <netmonk> _mvo_, synaptic works now, thank you :)
[11:54] <liquidboy> chroot /mnt/hdb5
[11:54] <liquidboy> chroot: cannot change root directory to /mnt/hdb5: Operation not permitted
[11:55] <liquidboy> crimsun, i dont knwo how to use that command, (obviously :P )...
[11:55] <HrdwrBoB> akurashy: backports can and well break upgrade to hoary
[11:55] <KlaasVaag> liquidboy: try 'sudo chroot /mnt/hdb5'
[11:55] <crimsun> liquidboy: chroot takes a mountpoint and a command as parameters
[11:55] <liquidboy> oh right
[11:55] <crimsun> liquidboy: thus: chroot /mnt/ubuntupartition /bin/bash
[11:56] <liquidboy> crimsun, the reason i wanted to know is i want to burn files to cd, but i cant do it while in live cd mode - so i need to be able to be running from the linux partition
[11:56] <liquidboy> damn the cd still wont eject
[11:56] <crimsun> akurashy: sec
[11:57] <crimsun> akurashy: you don't have warty/multiverse enabled
[11:57] <crimsun> akurashy: (it doesn't exist at all in your /etc/apt/sources.list)
[11:57] <amin> hi
[11:57] <hikaru79> Sweet, works like a charm =)
[11:58] <crimsun> akurashy: add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ warty multiverse"
[11:58] <hikaru79> I ssh'd into another machine on the LAN and then used that machine's ssh to SSH onto another machine on the LAN and then THAT machine's SSH to ssh back into the computer I was on.
[11:58] <amin> i've just installed ubuntu good work
[11:58] <crimsun> akurashy: then update and install rar
[11:58] <liquidboy> crimsun, so then the chroot isnt the command i want, i want to be able to acutally boot from the linux partition, (grub was stuffed by me installing winxp)
[11:58] <amin> then i add gscanbus and plug my DVcam
[11:59] <crimsun> liquidboy: after you've booted into the livecd, drop to a shell and run "grub-install && update-grub"
[11:59] <amin> when i want to mknod /dev/raw1394 not enougth arguments
[11:59] <liquidboy> install_device not specified.
[11:59] <crimsun> amin: mknod takes a node type, major number, and minor number as parameters
[11:59] <snarky> hey im trying to upgrade to hoary and i get the following error:
[11:59] <snarky> Errors were encountered while processing:
[11:59] <snarky>  /var/cache/apt/archives/gimp-data_2.2.2-1ubuntu1_all.deb
[11:59] <snarky> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)