[12:05] <__tim> Hi. Someone set up a rosetta translation effort/project for one of my programs. Now I'd like to grab some of the translation updates as .po files. This didn't require authentication or a user account last time I used it, but now does. So I try to sign up (join) and get my e-mail. However, the link sent just leads me to a 'this part of launchpad isn't ready yet' page
[12:06] <carlos> __tim: which URL did you got?
[12:07] <__tim> https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/foaf/token/0sKv4G6vjGtjxxxxxxxx
[12:07] <carlos> ok
[12:07] <carlos> just a minute
[12:07] <__tim> don't ask me why I blanked out the end, I don't really know myself ;)
[12:08] <carlos> __tim: don't worry, that's enough
[12:10] <carlos> __tim: could you create your account from http://www.ubuntulinux.org/join_form?
[12:11] <carlos> the account is the same
[12:11] <carlos> we are just adding that feature to launchpad and it's not completely ready atm
[12:11] <__tim> I'll try, thanks
[12:19] <__tim> btw, just some things I've come across so far with rosetta
[12:20] <__tim> there's a special msgid string "translator-credits", which should be filled with the names of the contributors to the translation separated by a newline automatically
[12:20] <__tim> for about dialogs etc.
[12:20] <__tim> many translators seem to just translate the string into their language instead of putting their name there
[12:21] <__tim> and it's a pain if I have to edit the .po file every time to edit and add that info, if it could just as well be handled automatically by rosetta
[12:21] <carlos> __tim: hmm, it's an interesting feature to add to Rosetta
[12:22] <daf> good point
[12:22] <carlos> __tim: could you file a bug report about it at launchapd.ubuntu.com/malone?
[12:22] <__tim> sure
[12:22] <daf> specifically, https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone/products/rosetta :)
[12:22] <__tim> I'll file the others there as well then ;)
[12:22] <daf> sure, go ahead :)
[12:22] <daf> that's what it's for, after all
[12:22] <__tim> didn't know where to look
[12:23] <daf> no worrie
[12:23] <daf> * worries
[12:32] <carlos> __tim: also, there is a #rosetta channel in case you want to talk with other users
[12:34] <__tim> carlos: thanks
[12:35] <__tim> I'm interested in rosetta mainly as a developer using the rosetta output, not so much as a translator to be honest :)
[12:36] <carlos> __tim: :-)
[12:47] <lifeless> daf: do we have download-a-tarball-of-po's yet ?
[12:48] <daf> I think that might just be in production now
[12:48] <daf> I need to add links to it
[12:48] <lifeless> whats the URL ?
[12:49] <daf> curl https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/rosetta/products/foo/bar/+tar-export
[12:49] <daf> IIRC
[12:54] <daf> hmm, I wonder if Brad is around
[12:54] <daf> bradb: ping
[12:54] <daf> still a bit early for Canada
[12:54] <daf> but if he's around later, I'm sure he'll be happy to discuss Malone with you
[12:55] <carlos> __tim: I think it's that way because malone also supports to file bugs against distribution packages
[12:55] <__tim> ah
[12:55] <carlos> so it's a way to say: The bug is about that package from Ubuntu, Debian, RedHat, etc.. or it's a problem of upstream
[01:00] <lifeless> daf: yes it works, but its very slow
[01:02] <carlos> lifeless: it's normal, until we get fixed the stream feature so we can start giving you the file while we are still creating it
[01:03] <lifeless> even so, its still very slow ;0
[01:03] <spiv> How slow is slow?
[01:03] <carlos> lifeless: the .po files are created when you request them, as I said, it's normal
[01:04] <spiv> 10 seconds?  a minute?  several minutes?
[01:04] <lifeless> spiv: ~ 5 minutes before the download started.
[01:04] <spiv> Ouch.
[01:04] <spiv> That's going to be a problem.
[01:04] <carlos> as I said, it's normal 
[01:04] <lifeless> its a 3mb tar
[01:04] <carlos> not good, but normal
[01:04] <spiv> We only need four people doing that at once, and launchpad won't have any spare threads for servicing other requests for 5 minutes :)
[01:06] <__tim> thanks again for the help
[01:06] <lifeless> and most folk are not as patient with a browser as I .
[01:08] <daf> incremental tar generation is blocking on a bug in Zope's HTTPResponse
[04:26] <dc|out> SteveA: just out of curiosity, you guys are using slqos/sqlobject?
[04:35] <SteveA> yes
[04:36] <dreamcatcher> amazing. i suppose you're keeping a private copy, as i havent seen much patches
[04:47] <SteveA> i'll hassle the guys to send patches
[04:47] <SteveA> i think we've had some stuff accepted in sqlos
[04:48] <dreamcatcher> i've checked in one or two patches, there may be another one or two on the tracker
[04:55] <dreamcatcher> i remember now, i was waiting for your changes to z3 to fire a 'start transaction' event. did you ever get around to do that?
[04:57] <SteveA> not yet
[04:58] <SteveA> still using a kludge in that code
[05:56] <dreamcatcher> hey salty
[11:16] <lifeless> bradb: is launchpad down for you ?
[11:21] <bradb> lifeless: it appears that it may be, yeah. what happened? it was fine a short while ago.
[11:21] <lifeless> I edited a preference.
[11:22] <lifeless> should be back now.
[11:22] <lifeless> looks like my usercode triggers a big honking bug.
[11:22] <lifeless> *fuck*
[11:23] <lifeless> oh, here it goes again.
[11:23] <lifeless> gnar
[11:23] <lifeless> daf: ping
[11:27] <daf> pong
[11:28] <lifeless> daf: when I add latin to my lp preferences, the entire system hangs
[11:28] <daf> ooh
[11:29] <lifeless> bradb: have I killed it again?
[11:30] <lifeless> I think I have
[11:32] <daf> hmm, I can't reproduce it locally
[11:33] <bradb> lifeless: seems to be dead, yeah
[11:33] <bradb> daf: does this hit foaf at all?
[11:33] <lifeless> bradb: i can still kill it by editing a bug as well.
[11:34] <lifeless> I think its *me*
[11:34] <daf> you must be special
[11:34] <bradb> lifeless: yeah, it may be that same, scary problem.
[11:34] <lifeless> dude, this is really critical, I *cannot* use malone at all at the moment,.
[11:35] <lifeless> I presume its not your-fault but its pretty frustrating
[11:35] <bradb> lifeless: indeed, i understand the severity of this. it's really difficult to debug without privileged access to production. maybe stub can take a crack at it when he gets here (which is presumably quite soon)
[11:36] <daf> bradb: I don't think the language view code touches any FOAF stuff, no
[11:36] <lifeless> yah, I'm still sick today, but I'll work with stub and see if we can get a handle on it.
[11:36] <daf> there are two forms on that page, though, and the other one touches other attributes of Person
[11:37] <bradb> daf: lifeless was able to swallow up launchpad in this way with Malone too. based on what we've currently see about how this behaviour can be made to happen, it's still pretty confusing.
[11:37] <daf> fun fun!
[11:38] <bradb> lifeless: FWIW, i just added Latin to "My languages" and saved on that screen. No hangage.
[11:38] <lifeless> BWAH.
[11:38] <lifeless> ok, you can do the bazaar latin translation then ;)
[11:38] <bradb> er!
[11:38] <bradb> :P
[11:38] <lifeless> daf: so how is the welsh one coming ?
[11:39] <lifeless> and do you have klingon in rosetta ?
[11:39] <daf> sorry, dude, it's not high on my list
[11:39] <daf> once I'm done with APT, dpkg and GNOME 2.10, I might give it some time
[11:39] <daf> klingon, hmm
[11:39] <daf> we should do
[11:39] <daf> it has an ISO code, after all
[11:41] <lifeless> bah, how many people use gnome
[11:41] <lifeless> I mean, really?!