[12:04] yes, thanks for the patch [12:04] things are a bit crazy just before feature freeze [12:04] yeah, understood [12:04] mdz: this accessd thing, is it sane? [12:04] jdub: is that the thing that we talked about in Spain? [12:04] I think so [12:05] it sounded vaguely reasonable [12:05] i would like to not run things like update-manager and synaptic as roon [12:05] t [12:05] but have them run little subprocesses to perform the operation [12:05] things like update-manager and synaptic are going to be a lot of work to privilege-separate [12:05] (same as g-s-t stuff) [12:05] (though g-s-t will be easier) [12:06] if synaptic is done, update-manager will just inherit that though, right? === carlos [~carlos@69.Red-80-33-181.pooles.rima-tde.net] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Client] === danilo [~danilo@adsl-ull-247-152.46-151.net24.it] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [12:23] haggai: ping? [12:29] night everybody [12:29] sleep tight, pitti [12:35] i better had not tried, if wesnoth-0.8.10 compiled ... now i'm left with it on my hard disk :-) [12:36] jdub: can you weigh in on #6092? === netdur [~adel@adsl-218-44-192-81.adsl.iam.net.ma] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:43] mdz: *shiver* === thully [thully@234.sub-166-155-126.myvzw.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:45] jdub: there is so no reason to mess with that in the desktop [12:48] hey, open Synaptic -> settings -> repositories -> try close the dialog by clicking the [x] (and not cancel button), watch the bug! [12:48] netdur: bugs typically go to bugzilla.ubuntu.com [12:49] need to register right? [12:49] yes. [12:49] also, i dont see a bug [12:50] BUT PERKY!!! THAT IS THE BUG!! [12:51] you mean get normal window and not false-sensitive window? [12:52] jdub: I see you joined mdz oppinion, well, I'll mask it out of the gui tommorow then? (change the interface file and the reference for that field in the code) [12:53] jdub: (talking about 6092) === sivang heads off for the night === MobyTurbo [~chai@64-48-59-91-ny-02.cvx.algx.net] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === dholbach [~dholbach@td9091ab2.pool.terralink.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:59] re === Arrogance [~aks@CPE0050ba556e4b-CM001225423850.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:23] jdub: do you understand your panel packaging at all? [01:24] (or anyone else, I guess ;) === luis_ is trying to figure out where gconf key /apps/panel/default_setup/objects/ comes from === lexhider [~lexhider@dip-220-235-87-210.vic.westnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:24] #ubuntu [01:25] because it looks like in my hacked up livecd, the value is getting overridden [01:25] luis_: yes, it is [01:25] luis_: the schema is installed when the package is configured [01:25] luis_: it is a hacky way to get a default panel layout appropriate for laptops or desktops [01:26] luis_: have a look at /var/lib/dpkg/info/gnome-panel-data.postinst === lamont gets email from Wietse telling him that aside from the bloat issue, there's no benefit to shipping a TLS-disabled postfix. [01:28] jdub: so the package is getting reconfigured at install time, even on the liveCD? [01:28] luis_: it's being reconfigured by casper during boot [01:28] ah, cool [01:28] thanks for the pointer === luis_ will go and fixificate [01:28] luis_: we do that so the livecd has the same smarts [01:29] yeah [01:29] makes sense [01:29] just surprising [01:29] yeah ;) [01:31] would something similar be rewriting my /usr/share/applications/defaults.list at boot time? [01:33] hmm, dunno about defaults.list, but it sounds plausible === luis_ needs to test that one a little more thoroughly === srbaker [~srbaker@blk-215-68-80.eastlink.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:34] I think maybe there is something funky going on there with links and mounts and loopback stuff [01:35] BLUETOOTH IS MAKING ME CRY [01:35] ladies and gentlemen [01:35] would you please put your hands together [01:36] mjg59: what are you doing? [01:36] for mister matthew "www.angrydpl.com" garrett === HrdwrBoB applauds === helix golf claps [01:36] dholbach: I have a PDA that runs Linux. I have a headless Linux box with a bluetooth dongle. [01:36] (especially anyone who loves their working acpi love in hoary) === infinity can't wait for Matt to win. [01:36] I want to get the PDA to do networking via the headless box. [01:37] Which I think means I need to pair the two devices. [01:37] mjg59: i found bugging edd dumbill to be a decent way to deal w/ bluetooth problems. especially where "problems" are a lack of documentation [01:37] Haha [01:37] maybe mjg59 will revolutionize bluetooth on linux as a result of his frustration [01:37] Everything I can find on pairing seems to assume that I'm running X [01:37] WHERE THE FUCK'S MY FUCKING TRAIN? === winkle [~winkle@lgh3814234.vittran.norrnod.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mpt_newjersey [~mpt@ool-44c0bc13.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:39] mjg59: erm the bluez-utils and bluez-hcidump are not assuming you're running X, are they? [01:40] dholbach: bluez-pin is linked against X libraries [01:40] dilinger : Your new and improved patch is now in incoming. [01:40] mjg59: oh sorry... i didnt know :-/ [01:41] infinity: i should be afraid, eh? === dilinger saw the php4 pcre bug that just got closed [01:42] Yeah, I've been cross-closing all day. [01:42] php4 bugs with apache, apache bugs with php4. === thully [thully@234.sub-166-155-126.myvzw.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:42] i don't know if this should make me either laugh or cry: "Any leftovers will be placed at the Bookmakers on whether Longhorn or Sarge release first." [01:43] Ah. If I turn off authentication and encryption, they can at least ping each other [01:43] yea, i had to turn of encryption for hidd [01:43] s/of/off/ [01:44] Less than ideal, but better than nothing... [01:46] Rock [01:52] i'm off to bed === rcliii [~rcliii@c-24-10-179-112.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === magnon [~magnon@cD9088834.sdsl.catch.no] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:52] good night === dholbach [~dholbach@td9091ab2.pool.terralink.de] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [01:54] there we go. server on ubuntu [02:09] jdub: ah-ha [02:10] jdub: turns out that since usr/share/applications/defaults.list is a symlink to _/_etc/gnome/defaults.list, what i was doing when i was editing the file on the livecd was actually editing my machine's defaults, and never touching the livecd. [02:14] wow, today is live CD bug day [02:15] speaking of live CD bug.. I filed a pretty large one about a week ago which makes things tough when you try to use the live CD on a system w/a wi-fi card but not in range of a network - have you seen this one yet? [02:16] Bug #5981 [02:16] daniels: ping? [02:17] mdz: I'm trying to arrange one for gnome for LWE, which means I'm running out of time :0 [02:17] :), I mean [02:17] fucking broken shift key [02:17] luis_: yeah, jdub mentioned, sounds very cool [02:17] yeah [02:18] I think the 2.10 one will be a learning experience, mostly [02:18] I expect the 2.12 one will rock [02:18] and hopefully it will get the artists heavily involved too :) [02:19] Oh man [02:19] Bluetooth is love [02:19] 00:35 < mjg59> BLUETOOTH IS MAKING ME CRY [02:19] 01:19 < mjg59> Bluetooth is love [02:19] dude [02:19] schizophrenia is love [02:19] elmo: s/angrydpl.com/bipolardpl.com/ [02:20] It turned out that it was gpe that was making me cry [02:20] gpe does that [02:21] Now gpe is making me cry again [02:21] It's broken dbus [02:28] Waah my dbus session bus has vanished [02:30] elmo: what happened to your "fist-sized blurry icons" bug? #6268 is a duplicate of it, but I can't find it [02:30] I think it was you, anyway === luis_ [~louie@h001217d2c87d.ne.client2.attbi.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:32] mdz: I never reported it as a bug, I just whined about it on IRC and got the (err, confused) impression it was a feature [02:32] ah [02:33] you may remember it 'cos it's on the quotes page [02:36] probably [02:44] Rock on. === luis_ has an epiphany-defaulting liveCD now [02:45] thanks, all [03:05] mdz: I think shtoom-in-universe was waiting for the official debs [03:05] as evidenced by the 'you may need to remove it manually before installing the official deb' comment... :-) === lamont screams at 'stars' [03:08] Bluetooth is worse than paedophiles === ajmitch spots the linux australia agm log [03:09] firecal [03:09] lamont: who is making the official debs? [03:09] thom ITP'ed it [03:10] mjg59: certainly would be nice if ubuntu made dealing w/ bluetooth easier [03:15] dilinger: if it weren't two days before feature freeze, I would agree [03:19] daniels: ping? [03:22] Phew. Bluetooth love once more. === zul [~chuck@CPE0006258ec6c2-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:30] hey === mpt_newjersey [~mpt@ool-44c0bc13.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:47] mdz: pong [03:48] daniels: morning [03:48] daniels: you have a xorg -1ubuntu16 upload planned for pre-feature-freeze, right? [03:53] mdz: yeah [03:54] daniels: I thought you said you fixed LiveCDCustomizationHowTo? [03:55] do you have some notes from when you went through it? === syn-ack [~meskes@ip68-228-61-85.tc.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:59] mdz: i haven't fixed it, no, but I can [03:59] please do; people are tripping over it [04:00] luis_: did you use the LiveCDCustomizationHowTo? [04:04] luis_: ah, you made many corrections already, thanks [04:05] mdz: ok [04:06] mdz: yeah, it is great [04:07] mdz: had some issues, but I polished it as much as I could [04:07] mdz: I'll add a gnome customization section at some point? [04:07] (if you guys want that) [04:08] luis_: what sort of gnome customization? [04:08] luis_: as part of the same howto, or a separate one? [04:09] the sources.list stuff doesn't make much sense [04:10] mdz: I was thinking mostly of gconf [04:11] the more obscure stuff (like the sources.list stuff) should probably just get linked to the gnoppix page [04:11] luis_: I think specific customizations should probably go in separate howtos, linked from this one [04:12] I was thinking gconf is non-specific enough, but judgment call for you guys [04:13] luis_: if you can find a way to organize it which preserves the simple, linear process, then sure, I've no problem with it [04:13] but that seems tricky [04:14] ideally it should be separated into the completely generic bits, and actual examples of customization [04:14] "installing custom packages (skip this section if you aren't doing that)" [04:15] "customizing gconf (skip this section if you aren't doing that)" [04:15] something like that? [04:15] makes sense [04:15] so that the less generic bits can be easily excluded and the next step is pretty obvious === ultrafunk [~pd@eth779.vic.adsl.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === srbaker [~srbaker@blk-215-68-80.eastlink.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tritium [~tritium@12-202-90-180.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tritium [~tritium@12-202-90-180.client.insightBB.com] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === louie [~louie@h001217d2c87d.ne.client2.attbi.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:10] daniels: I installed Hoary on a machine with a voodoo card yesterday [05:14] daniels: is it at all reasonable to expect that to work properly? [05:14] daniels: (it gave me 640x480) [05:14] mdz: utterly reasonable to expect it properly; if ddcprobe succeeds but doesn't shoot you back a sync range, it's one of the bugs fixed in ubuntu16 [05:14] which, given it's now tuesday, might well be 6.8.2-1 === jamesh hates how gksu grabs the keyboard/mouse [05:14] daniels: whichever way it goes, please make sure it's in before featurefreeze [05:14] jamesh: do you know a better way? [05:14] mdz: yah [05:14] mdz: I don't think it provides any added security. [05:14] mdz: if I can connect to your X server, I could just as easily present a window that looked like gksu [05:14] mdz: things that fuck the installer up royally: having your date set to 2003; the gpg keys are all invalid because they have been created after that [05:14] jamesh: I consider it a safety feature more than a security feature, per se [05:14] jamesh: it avoids the "oops, typed my password into the (gaim|xchat|etc.) window which just grabbed focus" [05:15] mdz: well, it sometimes grabs the keyboard when it isn't focused by the window manager, which is just as bad [05:16] which can happen with metacity's focus stealing prevention feature [05:16] eg. run gksu and then run another application that opens its window before gksu [05:16] mdz: is there any way to disable that specific horkage in gpg? [05:18] daniels: which specific horkage? [05:18] jamesh: that focus stealing prevention feature seems to also prevent me getting focus when I want it [05:18] mdz: see 'things that fuck the installer up royally' [05:19] mdz: the idea is that if you start an application, then do something else before it loads, you probably don't want that application to grab focus [05:19] which is correct in 99% of situations [05:22] daniels: oh, interesting [05:22] daniels: gpg --ignore-my-clock [05:23] jamesh: I have had a _lot_ of gaim windows, notification dialogs and such appearing behind another window [05:23] and so I never see ther [05:23] ah, --ignore-valid-from [05:23] them [05:23] anyway, have to run [05:23] mdz: can we get --ignore-valid-from for validation? [05:23] daniels: I will be in the vicinity of that voodoo box shortly; I may come back and nag you about it [05:23] daniels: probably, talk to Kamion when he wakes up [05:23] mdz: ok, thanks [05:23] Kamion: ping === ogra [~ogra@p508EAC6F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:24] mdz: if an app is popping up a new window it should be setting _NET_WM_USER_TIME to the timestamp of the event that triggered it [05:26] mdz: if gaim set that prop on its popups to the last known event timestamp when you received a message, then they should get focus. [05:27] (or get the current time from the server) [05:38] doh, missed jbailey === louie [~louie@h001217d2c87d.ne.client2.attbi.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pvh [~pvh@S010600121729b5b8.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === wasabi_ [~wasabi@c-24-1-67-127.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:42] Can anyone suggest why I might not be able to call up the man page for fork()? [05:44] sudo apt-get install manpages-dev [05:45] Phew, thanks. === QQMelo [~ircap751@241-146-114-200.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:46] hi [05:47] can i ask ? === `anthony [~anthony@ekorp-203-63-137-225.eoff.ekorp.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === srbaker [~srbaker@blk-215-68-80.eastlink.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jvw [jeroen@220pc220.sshunet.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:16] oh my god. this s3 card really is horrid. it doesn't even do ddc. [06:38] morning [06:41] wtf... [06:41] it's impossible to rsync from archive.u.c === srbaker [~srbaker@blk-215-68-80.eastlink.ca] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] [07:33] mdz: ping [07:34] daniels: you around? === pitti [~martin@box79162.elkhouse.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:11] Good morning Ladies, Gentlemen, Aliens, etc.! === fabbione shows his greenish skin to pitti === pitti offers fabbione his third hand to help [08:19] hello pitti, fabbione [08:19] hi ajmitch === fabbione waves with his 7 fingers === tuo2 [~foo@adsl-36-114.swiftdsl.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:29] dpkg-source: building linux-source-2.6.11 using existing linux-source-2.6.11_2.6.11.orig.tar.gz [08:29] let's add some extra crack [08:29] 2.6.11-final? [08:30] no [08:30] i said CRACK [08:30] ah ok [08:30] it's a bk snapshot === d3vic3 [~cc@dumbledore.hbd.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === HcE [egtvedt@tux.samfundet.no] has joined #ubuntu-devel === doko [doko@smile.cs.tu-berlin.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:57] well, that was a cluster [08:58] lamont: ? [08:59] the last 5 hours... at least 9 accidents on the interstate [08:59] ah [08:59] the real pisser was having _MY_ENGINE_ rear ended === fabbione tries to picture that [09:00] your engine? [09:00] it was sitting on the road? [09:00] yep. parked about 2/3 of the way into the outside lane of the interstate, protecting us while we dealt with a patient who had just rear-ended a lory [09:01] and along comes this puny little toyota and trashed itself on my bumper. [09:01] fuck... [09:01] that sucks [09:01] fire engine didn't move positions at all. rocked around abit/. [09:01] fabbione: it'll need a new bumper, and we'll have a challenge or two getting a couple of things out in the meantime, but it's still in service. [09:01] that's crazy [09:01] but I expect to get an "award" for it next year. [09:02] sheet of ice - very slick... been a crazy evening [09:02] crazy [09:02] starting just short of 6 hours ago [09:02] we had floods last week === martink [~martin@pD9EB2CD4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:03] oh - and all those accidents were in a 1 mile stretch of highway [09:03] parking is getting a little congested. :-) [09:03] heh [09:05] fabbione: pong [09:06] mdz: i am preparing 2.6.11 (from bk snapshots), but last time we talked about it you had some comments about the orig and the patches... [09:06] mdz: i just can't remember exactly about what... [09:07] the idea was to have a 2.6.11.orig.tar.gz based on 2.6.10 [09:07] and add the rest as patches.. [09:07] did anyone get my mail to ubuntu-devel wrt "MTA in ubuntu desktop"? [09:07] lamont: not yet [09:09] Feb 7 19:04:42 mmjgroup postfix/smtp[24196] : A517516EAE: to= .ubuntu.com>, relay=lists.ubuntu.com[209.61.182.217] , delay=1, status=sent (250 [09:09] OK id=1CyKk6-0007O0-EN) [09:09] hrmpf. [09:09] aren't the ml moderated? [09:09] could be. [09:09] and if I guessed the wrong email on my submission... [09:09] where's our moderater, eh? [09:10] iirc your address has to be subscribed or approved by Jeff [09:10] hrm.. should be his midday... jdub??? [09:10] fabbione: whatever works best for you [09:10] mdz: ok. i am going to the 2.6.10 orig + patches [09:11] mdz: it is easier to track [09:11] because there will one stolen-from-head or update2-2.6.XX patch on top [09:11] and the other afterwards [09:11] lamont: moderated [09:12] also because after the first orig patching, all the others will still have to live in debian/patches [09:13] jdub: ping [09:13] lamont: mail just arrived [09:15] fabbione: I moderated it [09:15] mdz: tahnks [09:18] oh nice... [09:18] only 16 patches to review for 2.6.11 [09:18] mdz: wondering if stars belongs in multiverse, or yale belongs in universe... [09:18] (stars build-deps yale, but yale is multiverse) === mvo_ [~egon@ip181.135.1511I-CUD12K-01.ish.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:21] lamont: weird, how did that happen? [09:21] daniels: I can fix the installer's invocations of gpgv, but somebody will need to add --ignore-time-conflict to apt's invocation of gpgv [09:21] maybe stars is contrib? [09:21] Kamion: if there isn't already an apt config option to pass arbitrary parameters to gpgv, there should be [09:21] lamont: ah, maybe [09:21] Kamion: cool [09:21] lamont: if stars came from contrib, it should move into multiverse === lamont looks [09:22] mdz: there isn't [09:23] Kamion: please file a bug, assign to mvo [09:23] mdz: stars is main in sarge contrib in sid [09:23] gah [09:23] main in sarge, contrib in sid [09:24] so yeah, it should move to multiverse === stub [~stub@dumbledore.hbd.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:24] Kamion: sorry, missed the first bit. what is the problem? [09:25] mvo_: daniels reported that installs fail due to his clock being set to 2003, which means that gpgv reports the signatures as invalid due to being from the future [09:25] mdz email sent, cc you et al [09:25] mvo_: I'd like to make the installer always use gpgv --ignore-time-conflict to fix this; it's probably not a problem outside the installer because ntpdate gets run etc. [09:26] mvo_: basically, we need a new config parameter in apt to pass options to gpgv === lamont sleeps [09:26] Acquire::gpgv::options [09:27] mdz: bug #6283 filed with excerpt from this conversation [09:28] Kamion,mdz: right, thanks === pitti [~martin@box79162.elkhouse.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:29] mdz: pong [09:30] jdub: good meeting with cliff tonight, can we do a conference call in ~20 hours? [09:30] daniels: debootstrap and net-retriever fixed, anyway [09:30] Kamion: thanks dude [09:30] daniels: l-r-m? [09:30] mdz: hrm [09:30] mdz: sounds handwavingly okay [09:31] jdub: if you need a different time, reply to cliff's mail [09:31] mdz: so not 4pm thursday? [09:31] fabbione: yeah, am doing that now [09:31] I'll roll new CDs when new l-r-m appears [09:31] I expect to be blocking on it today though [09:31] Kamion: i think we also need a new linux-meta [09:31] fabbione: just had to go to the shop and buy a new video card, because I was stuck with heaps of crappy PCI cards (only have PCI and PCIE, got a new card on order) [09:32] fabbione: the ones I had were all 4MB and didn't do DDC [09:32] jdub: oh, right [09:32] daniels: that's becasue -au hw sucks :P [09:32] jdub: I have no idea what day it is [09:32] fabbione: yes [09:32] jdub: anyway, I got him all set up so that he can do artwork development [09:32] fabbione: (I can do that if nobody beats me to it) [09:32] mdz: cliff suggested a different time ;) [09:33] fabbione: don't speak too soon, kid -- i have the best video card on the planet on order [09:33] jdub: I thought today was tomorrow [09:33] jdub: ignore me === mvo_ chuckles [09:35] mdz: pong === Keybuk [scott@descent.netsplit.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:35] mdz: finally nailed an OOo bug and will get to mail backlog today [09:35] haggai: hey, you're alive :-) [09:36] mdz: just :) both of us came down with a bug from my wife's new workplace [09:36] haggai: need to talk with you/Kamion/amu about Kubuntu very soon, today if possible [09:36] morning Keybuk [09:37] morning [09:37] Keybuk: any objections to moving the tech board meeting time? [09:37] mdz: ok, I'm going to be out for much of the evening (UK), I guess you need a time sometime then? [09:37] mdz: no major ones [09:38] haggai: when can you be available? should be less than an hour [09:38] Keybuk: ok, I'll announce it then [09:40] mdz: I would like it to finish before 19:00 UTC, because I want to be elsewhere at 19:40; is the tech board meeting slot now free? [09:40] haggai: we'll be straightening out what needs to get done in order to start producing Kubuntu CD images [09:40] Kamion: tech board meeting slot is now free, but that's a week from now === haggai would be able to be there until 19:00 UTC too [09:41] Kamion: up to you, but i would wait l-r-m first === Mithrandir [~tfheen@vawad.err.no] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:41] we can meet at 1800 UTC [09:41] amu: does that work for you? [09:42] mdz: yes, it's fine for me [09:43] ok 1800 then [09:43] hello haggai, haven't seen you round much lately [09:43] hey haggai [09:44] haggai: OO2 failed on sparc.. do you want the buildlogs? [09:44] hi ajmitch, yes I've not been around for a few days and now I have a large backlog :( [09:44] haggai: I had worked on some packages for universe that ogra started reviewing [09:44] but then I became a DD & got busy uploading my packages to sid [09:45] fabbione: uh, I guess so :) [09:45] ajmitch: ah, that's cool [09:45] mdz: oh, d'oh [09:45] morning all [09:45] hi sivang [09:45] haggai: to what email address? [09:45] fabbione: I intend to [09:45] fabbione: chris.halls@credativ.co.uk [09:46] linux-meta's Maintainer: field is Herbert Xu, which should be changed. Who wants to volunteer? [09:46] hey ajmitch [09:46] Kamion: mdz :P [09:46] or I can just make it "Ubuntu Kernel Team " or something === dholbach [~dholbach@td9091ab2.pool.terralink.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:46] morning [09:46] Kamion: nah let's wait after this afternoon meeting [09:46] ok [09:46] kernel team, certainly [09:47] haggai: mail on the way [09:50] fabbione: kthx [09:53] morning dholbach [09:55] hello sivang! [09:56] elmo: we definetely need more rsync slots or to limit to one connection per ip [09:56] in the last 15 hours i couldn't connect once === website [~website@host79-96.pool8251.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:20] elmo: regarding #6206, it is required to remove various (but not all) mozilla-firefox-locale-* packages from Hoary and to replace it by mozilla-firefox-locale-all [10:20] elmo: AFAICS it is required to do the removal before the new upload, right? === herzi [~herzi@c141197.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:22] Kamion: sorry, my i386 (with all my sources, and my gpg key) has given up the ghost now and is flat-out refusing to boot. might be a couple of hours before l-r-m wings its way up from me. [10:22] Kamion: (getting all the sources on to my laptop now, but it's taking a while) === rubenv [~lambda1@83-134-125-188.Leuven.GoPlus.FastDSL.tiscali.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === JanC [JanC@dD5764FAB.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === fwiffo [~fwiffo@dhcpserver0.oersted.dtu.dk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Lovechild [~dnielsen@82.150.72.35] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:37] there is a bug in the mplayer meta pkg, failed dependency libavcodeccvs has a ver number that is too great to be satisfied === seb128 [~seb128@ANancy-151-1-9-220.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:38] Hi seb128 [10:39] hey [10:42] morning guys [10:42] (and girls ) [10:43] Hi ogra [10:43] sivang: don't bother with moz-ffox-locale-he-il [10:43] sivang: I'm already handling that now [10:43] pitti: we will have to do some work together this week http://www.grawert.net/hal_lsb_info.png [10:44] it'll be my pleasure :-) [10:44] i got everything in, but i dont trust my c-fu, so you will probably need to correct my stuff... [10:45] looks good [10:45] ogra: just send me a debdiff against the current hoary version [10:45] lol...yp, i know how to make my screenshots look good ;) even if the code is crap === Simira [rpGirl@m146i.studby.ntnu.no] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:46] ogra: "Auen hui, innen pfui"? [10:46] :-) [10:46] pitti: mal sehn ;) [10:46] ogra: is this one big patch or did you split it up? [10:47] pitti: i wanted zto make one big one... but if you like it in piecmeal i'll d that as well === doko [doko@smile.cs.tu-berlin.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:47] ogra: if it makes sense to split it up, then it will certainly be better (also for upstream inclusion) [10:48] ogra: e. g. one patch for a general /proc support and several patches for reading info out of it [10:48] ogra: but if it does not make sense, just keep a monolithic patch [10:48] pitti: i dont think we can convince upstream to use the dmi data.... [10:48] hi ogra, hi seb128 [10:49] night all [10:49] Night mdz [10:49] pitti: the key values seem not no be standarized, so i wont be able to spec them....which will avoid inclusion by upstream :( [10:49] night mdz [10:49] bye mdz [10:49] night mdz [10:49] helix :) [10:49] night mdz [10:49]