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farruinnWW: do 'dpkg-reconfigure --default-priority xserver-xfree86', afaik that will12:00
apokryphosbzbb: Use K3B.12:00
Loevborgbzbb, then you'll have to use k3b12:00
zerokarmaleftrandabis, i was using several ubp packages and i dist-upgraded to hoary fine around array 3's release12:00
Pugio-Otherrandabis and I got that OS X theme it's great12:00
bzbbthanks12:00
Pugio-Otherso, I shouldn't upgrade FF then?12:00
randabisyou could just use the backport, but you'll have to remember to remove it when you upgrade to hoary12:00
arobenzerokarmaleft: gnome-panel: Depends: libecal1.2-1 (>= 1.1.4.2) but it is not installable12:00
aroben               Depends: libedataserver1.2-0 (>= 1.1.4.2) but it is not installable12:00
Pugio-Otherahh, ok12:00
mike998steve_:you here?12:00
mpqhow do I get my computer to boot from a CD?12:00
Pugio-Otherrandabis and I can just remove through Synaptic like normal?12:00
randabissure12:01
mpqI am such a noob12:01
mpqI used to think I knew everything about computers12:01
mpqbut now I don't know anything12:01
apokryphosPugio-Other: What version of firefox have you got?12:01
uxfmpq: make sure bios is set to boot from your cd driv12:01
uxfe12:01
farruinnPugio-Other: is there something specific you need in ff 1.0? the warty version is fine really12:01
mpqI'll try that12:01
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shockwow! could it be? should evolution be fixed as of today? *happy*12:01
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Pugio-Otherfarruinn well, a theme I want doesn't work in this version12:02
terryI was just gonna ask the same thing.  There was an update, but the same floiting point exception error12:02
Pugio-Otherapkryphos it's 0.9.312:02
terryshock ...^^^12:02
apokryphosPugio-Other: Are you using warty?12:02
Pugio-Otheryes12:02
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Pugio-Otherapokryphos yes12:02
arobenzerokarmaleft: Any ideas?12:02
apokryphosPugio-Other: Why not upgrade to hoary?12:02
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guptanI'm getting "could not open resource for writing" error message in Totem, when trying to play media files. What can be the error?12:03
Pugio-Otherapokryphos cause this is for a total newb and I want everything to be stable12:03
terryguptan "could not open resource for writing"12:03
randabisguptan probably using totem-gstreamer instead of totem-xine12:03
Pugio-Otherapokryphos people have told me that hoary still has a few issues in the context of a total newb12:03
guptanrandabis, yes, I'm using gstreamer12:04
shock<terry> shock ...^^^ terry .... ^^^12:04
shock:P12:04
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terryshock, I mean the statement about evolution12:04
shockterry, I know12:04
apokryphosPugio-Other: Hoary really is quite stable (despite it being in developement). I haven't had any problems with it, and I use it a lot.12:04
zOap_winHi, i need some help with ubuntu wharty and a wireless card..12:04
shockits great12:04
randabisguptan well you'll need the plugins for it...I never could get it working right so I just use totem-xine instead12:04
terryshock I was excited to see an update, but it still doesnt work12:04
shock?12:04
shockwhat error do you get12:04
shockcause mine seems to be working now12:04
Pugio-Otherapokryphos ughh, well, I don't really have time to upgrade12:04
terryshock floating point exception12:04
zOap_winanyone care to help me with this?12:05
randabisPugio-Other, just use what works :)12:05
terryshock, it works in my 32bit root, not in my 64bit root12:05
apokryphosPugio-Other: Alright. You could always update firefox manually. There's a guide on it. I'll get it, one sec.12:05
guptanrandabis, it works fine for me in fedora12:05
randabisthis isn't fedora12:05
apokryphos:P12:05
shock<terry> ok i only have this powerbook12:05
shock:)12:05
guptanrandabis, I am not able to play mp3 files even in rhythmbox12:05
zOap_winok, noone?12:05
djkzerokarmaleft: thanks dude12:05
djkturns out it DID change grub12:05
farruinnguptan: quite honestly, xine is better than gstreamer [in ubuntu] 12:06
djkchanged hda2 to hda112:06
shockand I am REALLY happy to be able to save my appointments again12:06
djksneaky :>12:06
randabisguptan because you don't have the right plugins12:06
zerokarmaleftdjk, awesome :)12:06
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randabisgstreamer0.8-mad will give you mp3 playback in rhythmbox12:06
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WWfarruinn: Thanks for the tip.  I'll do some more searching to make sure about it, then give it a shot.12:06
zOap_winso much for a online support? i'd get more help at whalmart..12:06
zerokarmaleftaroben, don't know what to tell you about those evo packages12:06
randabisgstreamer0.8-ffmpeg "should" give you video playback12:06
apokryphosPugio-Other: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/InstallingFirefox12:06
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farruinnWW: you could just backup your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file and run it12:07
arobenzerokarmaleft: OK.  I think I'll try installing from the Array 4 iso.12:07
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randabisPugio-Other, just use the backport...won't hurt, just remember to remove it if you upgrade to hoary12:07
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shock<zOap_win> -- alittle more info might trigger some reaction ;)12:07
shockcause "wirelesscards" are like from I know some to I know nothing12:08
zerokarmaleftaroben, i've got 1.4.2 of libecal installed12:08
shock*shruggs*12:08
WWzOap_win: You're right. It's ridiculous that you can't get your question answered in less then three minutes.  Demand your money back!12:08
zerokarmaleftaroben, and i've been on hoary since about array 312:08
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guptanrandabis, I have installed whatever gstreamer items I saw in universe12:08
shockhey! I got no complaints and I got 5 times the money back that I spent12:08
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arobenzerokarmaleft: Weird.12:09
zOap_winshock, ok. i have the wharty release and just bought the smc2835W card. it's supposed to be supported under the prism54 driver but it doesnt.. it s recognised as Intersil GT... can you help me?12:09
shock*cough*12:10
djkhm12:10
mpqI can't figure out how to boot from a cd12:10
djkfor some reason I can't modprobe ndiswrapper anymore..12:10
shockso what does dmesg say about that card12:10
djkgives me the FATAL: Error inserting stuff12:10
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terrywhere is the ubuntu bugtracker12:10
shocki can only try and point to some directions as all I have ever done actually is get a wireless PCMCIA card into the university net12:10
shock:P12:10
zOap_winshock, Intersil 3890/Intersil GT12:10
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aulinI was planning to install Ubuntu today, and i was wondering if it has support for the nforce3-chipsets ethernetcontroller?12:11
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jirwinhello12:11
mpqI need help12:11
jirwinis there anyway to create a multivolume iso?12:11
shockand it wouldnt run on that driver?12:11
uxfmpq:did you try changin the bios12:11
zOap_winshock, but on the ubuntu webpage it said it was supported under the prism54 driver...12:11
mpqI don't know how12:11
shockmaybe that changed?12:11
zOap_winshock, it runs(lights up) but nothing else12:12
shockhave u checkked the forums?12:12
zOap_winshock, yes. no go12:12
shockok - its an PCI or?12:12
zOap_winshock, pcmicia12:12
mpqI don't know how to change the bios12:12
Hwolf*grumble* I hate it if MSN is down.12:12
shockoh hmkay12:12
iapx8088Hwolf, i'm in at the moment.12:12
uxfmpq: press del or an fkey at boot12:12
shockin cardinfo its displayed as?12:12
shockand what status?12:13
mpqI'll try that12:13
zOap_winshock, you mean lspci -v? Intersil 3890/Intersil GT...12:13
shockno - "cardinfo"12:13
zOap_winshock, where to find?12:14
Hwolfiapx8088; Msn is down for most people around here. (Holland)12:14
jirwinis there any easy way with mkisofs to split a group of directories into 700MB chunks?12:14
Infernal_Demondoes ubuntu bring a c compiler?12:14
shocki think its in the. ... erm... package thingy12:14
apokryphoshas been having problems almost the whole of today. Msn, that is.12:14
shockmaybe pcmcia-cs12:14
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zOap_winshock, ok, i thought in linux.. gosh:) it's a smc2835w, pcmcia card..12:15
ssamjirwin i think tar might be able to do that, check the man page12:15
jirwinthanks12:15
thechitowncubsIn this guide: http://prism54.org/phpwiki?pagename=Prism54%20Debian%20HowTo  , it says I need to compile the kernel to get the prism54 working, could anyone tell me the easiest way to do this?12:16
Pugio-Otherthanks for the help guys:)12:16
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zOap_winshock, the package sayssmc 2835w ez conext actually...12:16
silvawhat is the smb4k for debian12:16
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shockhm12:17
zOap_winshock, another q, whre is the linux kernel in ubuntu? not in /usr/etc/ or /usr/libs12:17
hikaru79Are there any HOWTO's available for installing Ubuntu on a little USB drive? (I've got the 1GB variety)12:17
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shocker... THE kernel is in /bott/....12:17
shocker... THE kernel is in /bo0t/....12:17
shockargh12:17
shockdamn beer12:17
thechitowncubsCan anyone verify this guide (tell me if this is what I need to do to install this prism54 driver?12:17
shockboot12:17
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shockand the kernel-source goes in /usr/src/12:18
iapx8088Hwolf, it has been down all the day12:18
rattboiI tried recompiling my kernel, and it kernel panics right out of the gate12:18
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rattboiI followed this guide at www.desktop-linux.net12:18
shockthe current config goes in /boot/config-version12:18
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mpqI give up12:18
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iapx8088mpq, doing what12:19
thechitowncubsAnyone?12:19
zOap_win1sorry, got disconnected..12:19
mpqthe computer read the cd at startup12:19
mpqbut it went and booted windows12:19
mpqit simply won't boot from the cd12:19
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shock<thechitowncubs>12:19
shockkernelcompile:12:19
shockget the sources12:19
iapx8088Hwolf, it's soo down this page was down too http://messenger.msn.com/Status.aspx12:19
shockuntar the sources12:19
iapx8088mpq, did you md5 the cd iso?12:19
uxfmpq:sounds like a broken cd12:19
zOap_win1anyone can give me an easy guide to install ndiswrapper or any other sotware inwhich i can use my windows driver?12:19
thechitowncubsshock: what?12:19
mpqI don't know what that means12:19
iapx8088mpq the bios is setted correctly>?\12:19
mpqI think it is12:20
iapx8088mpq, where did you get that cd12:20
Pugio-Otherok I feel sheepish12:20
shockhold on - i think i had a kernel-compile howto somewhere12:20
mpqI burned it12:20
Pugio-Otherwhere do I get the firefox backport again?12:20
LucienSome, plz help me !12:20
mpqI downloaded the live cd iso off the website12:20
Lucienone*12:20
LucienDamn.12:20
mpqbut it's not working12:20
Pugio-OtherLucien what' your problem?12:20
smurfdquestion, anyone happen to run Horay on a Inspiron 1100? cus i tried the live release of Array 4 (i Think, or 3) where x.org only gave me a 800x600 res. where my intel card supports 1024x768. would that be a known issue, is it problem in x.org, or ubuntu, or ?!12:20
shockKernel Compile howto ->>>> http://www.desktop-linux.net/debkernel.htm12:21
shockstep by step12:21
Pugio-Otherwhat's the link to the ubuntu backports?12:21
zOap_win1shock, was this for me?12:21
LucienI have a problem with playing Divx movies in Totem-xine and every other general movie player. I cannot hear any sound @ Pugio-Other .12:21
thechitowncubsis it possible to do it through SSH?12:21
mpqcould it have something to do with the fact that I'm on a laptop?12:21
shock<zOap_win> shock, but on the ubuntu webpage it said it was supported under the prism54 driver...12:21
uxfmpq: no12:21
shock<thechitowncubs> Can anyone verify this guide (tell me if this is what I need to do to install this prism54 driver?12:21
thechitowncubsyes...12:21
shockI guess your questions are related?12:21
mpqI'm going to see if it does it differently on my other computer12:21
Pugio-OtherLucien are you sure your sound card is even working?12:22
shock;)12:22
hikaru79Are there any HOWTO's available for installing Ubuntu on a little USB drive? (I've got the 1GB variety)12:22
Pugio-OtherLucien ie. have you ever heard anything?12:22
thechitowncubsShock: is it possible to compile through SSH?12:22
LucienJup, I am listening to music right now.12:22
zOap_win1shock, so i just follow this guide?12:22
shockyes12:22
LucienAnd I can hear those awful Ubuntu sounds.12:22
zOap_win1shock, thanx:)12:22
shockhm12:22
thechitowncubsis that a yes to me?12:22
jirwinreal quick, how do I make a tar of a directory?12:22
shockmake shure to check the config for enableling the support for your card12:22
shock;)12:22
Pugio-OtherLucien hmmm, then you don't hav the divx codec installed12:22
LucienBut I can actually watch the movies, just not hear the adio.12:23
shocktar -czf tar.tgz dirname12:23
Lucienaudio*12:23
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kentI found an easy way to crash my computer using updated Hoary. I plugin my Olympus C-310 camera with usb. It mounts, as it should since its an usb-mass-storage.  Then, if i pull the usbplug (some users might just do that), the computer freezes, and i cant do anything.12:23
jirwinshock, thanks12:23
shock<thechitowncubs> <--- compiling via ssh is possible12:23
djkLucien have you setup the movieplayer to use OSS12:24
djkor whatever12:24
djkI had to do that in mplayer before I got sound12:24
djkbut xmms was fin12:24
djke12:24
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shockI have a linux router - it didnt have a monitor attached ever since the first install (4 years ago)12:24
shock*g*12:24
djkme too shock :)12:24
zOap_win1shock, well, since i dont have an internet connection on the machine im gonna update i cant do the apt-get.. any suggestions?12:24
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shockurks... anyone know if the linux-kernel-sources are available on the install-cd?12:25
Pugio-OtherLucien well then the codec might not be installed orrectly12:25
jirwini found -M for tar to create multivolumes...but how do I tell it how big of volumes I want?12:25
mpqI've come to the conclusion that it's not a boot cd at all12:25
ssamis libdvdcss2 availble of hoary on ppc?12:25
Pugio-Otheruh oh12:25
Pugio-Otherheeeellllp12:25
mpqI must have burned it wrong12:25
Pugio-OtherI just changed my user name and now nothing works12:25
shock<zOap_win1> have you checked if the module for prism54 exists allready?12:25
LucienOkay, I use the Hoary kernel, the rest is Warty.12:25
LucienSo, what could have gotten wrong ?12:25
zOap_win1shock, how do i do that?12:25
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Pugio-OtherLucien honestly, I'm not too familiar with that area of things yet12:26
shockcheck the modules directory or try a couple of modprobes that sound likely12:26
shock;)12:26
LucienOkay, but thanks for the effort to help. :-)12:26
zOap_win1shock, like modprobe prism54?12:26
shocki.e.12:27
randabisyay, I helped fix a bug in hoary12:27
shocknice one randa12:27
zOap_win1shock, ok thanx. ill try12:27
shocku go12:27
randabisit was in the network tool in gnome-system-tools12:27
shockif all else fails: get the kernel-sources on another machine and burn it to a cd12:27
randabisif your hosts file had the wrong syntax, it would cause it to crash12:28
mpqI feel like an idiot12:28
hikaru79Are there any HOWTO's available for installing Ubuntu on a little USB drive? (I've got the 1GB variety)12:28
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mpqI don't even know how to boot a cd12:28
zOap_win1shock, ok. it return nothing. so' id get the the newest kernel and then what? whats the installation procedure?12:28
Pugio-OtherI have a serious problem here, which should have already been taken care of12:29
Pugio-OtherI changed my user name in "Users and Groups" and now my syste is completely messed up12:29
Pugio-Otherwhich shouldn't happen12:29
shockhttp://www.desktop-linux.net/debkernel.htm <-- its all there12:29
zOap_win1shock, thanx12:29
shockthats pretty much exactly what I do when building a kernel12:29
shock=)12:29
mpqI clearly don't have a clue how to use linux12:29
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mpqdo I have to burn it a special way to get it to boot from the cd?12:30
Xappehmm, i now realise that I don't know how to install a program through cvs12:30
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shockhttp://www.ubuntu-forum.de/thread.php?threadid=14 <--- found an ubuntu one12:31
shock=)12:31
shock<zOap_win1>12:31
mpqhow do I burn a .iso file as the image?12:31
zOap_win1shock, ok. but then the question comes up again, i have no file /usr/src/linux....12:31
Pugio-OtherPlease someobyd why oh why does changing my user name zap my system?12:31
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randabismpq depends on program12:31
mpqall I have is the default windows software12:31
shock/usr/src/linux will be a symbolic link in /usr/src/ pointing to the current linux-kernel-source12:31
rviraniI think everyone on the Ubuntu team owes themselves a congrats, read the review on osnews.com12:31
zOap_win1shock, what language is that????12:32
Pugio-Otherok12:32
shockletz say you downloaded kernel-source-2.6.10.tar.bz212:32
randabisdid you get the linux-source package zOap_win1?12:32
shockthen u do12:32
shockcd /usr/src12:32
Pugio-OtherHOW can I open the "Users and Groups" panel from the command line?12:32
shockwait12:32
zOap_win1shock, yes. ive done that12:32
zOap_win12610 i mean12:32
zOap_win1randabis, yes 2.6.1012:32
randabisthere should be a tarball you need to extract in /usr/src12:33
kentPugio-Other, users-admin?12:33
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zOap_win1shock. ok12:33
Helios_hey12:33
randabistar xvjf kernelpackagename.tar.bz212:33
zOap_win1randabis, what tarball?12:33
mpqI think I figured out how to burn an image directly from an iso12:33
randabiscd /usr/src12:34
randabisls12:34
zOap_win1ok hang on12:34
randabisyou should have a tar.bz2 file in there12:34
randabissomething like linux-source-2.6.10.tar.bz212:34
Helios_I've got a question about my laptops battery meter. there's this applet in the gnome pannel that should display its level, but it always displays 0%, even though the battery is fully charged.12:35
Pugio-Otherkent THANKS12:35
iapx8088Helios_, cat /proc/acpi/battery/state or whatis12:35
iapx8088probably you are missing something acpi related12:36
iapx8088maybe you should load the module12:36
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Helios_the dir /proc/acpi/battery/state doesn't excist12:36
Helios_what module should i load?12:36
Pugio-Otherok, so to ask a dumb question agin, where can I get the Firefox backport?12:37
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shockhttp://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/KernelCompileHowto12:37
t31please any advaice about a minimum boot partition?12:37
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randabisI'd say 30-50 minimum12:37
randabisI make mine 10012:37
randabismb12:37
zOap_win1shock, randabis. ok. in usr/src/ now is a folder called rpm12:38
t31hey thx12:38
Helios_can ubuntu handle RPMs?12:38
HrdwrBoBHelios_: yes, and at the same time a huge resounding no12:39
mpqlet's see if the disc WORKS this time12:39
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HrdwrBoBHelios_: what do you want to install12:39
randabisin theory, but it wouldn't be a good idea12:39
randabiszOap_win1, no linux-source-2.6.10.tar.bz2?12:40
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Helios_nothing , just curious since i thought it was a redhat feature12:40
zOap_win1randabis, no.12:40
randabissudo apt-get install linux-source12:40
Helios_i'd rather use apt-get/synaptic or compile from source anyway12:40
Pugio-Otherdoes ubuntu have cedega or WINE?12:40
zOap_win1randabis, i dont have a net connection.. that is my problem..12:40
randabiswhy are you going this anyway?12:40
zOap_win1randabis, i want my smc2835w card to work.. its wireles..12:41
kentPugio-Other, it has wine12:41
Helios_well, cedega is commercial, so i don't suppose it ships with that12:41
Pugio-Otherkent weird, synaptic doesn't see it at all12:41
thechitowncubsWhen I try to patch the kernel with this: sudo patch -p1 < /home/steve/patch-2.6.7-prism54-1.212:41
randabisyou need the linux-headers for your running kernel to compile a module then zOap_wini, not linux-source12:41
kentPugio-Other, i bet you have not enabled the universe repositorie?12:41
thechitowncubsit comes up with : File to patch: (what should I put here?)12:42
Pugio-Otherkent - doh!12:42
randabisPugio-Other, it has an old version of WINE yes12:42
Pugio-Otherrandabis - and, to get the newer version?12:42
shockbrb... i need to .... u dont want to know12:42
zOap_win1randabis, ok. so i just download that and compile it? i dont know how. never done it before..12:42
mike998is there any tool i can install on ubuntu to allow me to sniff if there are any wireless networks around?12:43
Helios_In case someone missed this: Ubuntu doesn't seem to be able to measure my laptops battery level. What should I do about it? What module whould I load?12:43
randabisyou'll compile the module, not the whole kernel12:43
XappePugio-Other, , there is an unofficial wine repository12:43
Pugio-OtherXappe - do tell12:43
Helios_mike998: you can use 'iwlist wlan0 scan'12:43
randabismike998, I think it's already installed iwlist12:43
zOap_win1randabis. so i download the linux-headers from debian, and then what? what to type?12:43
mike998no scan results... strange i know there are at least 3 networks in range12:44
randabisyou're using debian?12:44
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Pugio-OtherXappe where is this repository?12:44
thechitowncubsAnyone know?12:44
Helios_Mike998: are there correct drivers installed for the card? Took me quite some effort to get mine working12:44
zOap_win1randabis, ubuntu whart12:44
Xappehmm, wait, i'll check my sources.list12:44
rviraniubuntu ownz12:44
rvirani:D12:44
randabiszOap_win1, then why would you get it from debian?12:44
surrounderjuhjuh!12:44
zOap_win1randabis, ubuntu is debian based?12:45
randabisyes, but it doesn't use the same repositories12:45
Helios_Mike998 you can check with 'ifconfig -a' to see if it shows up there12:45
silvahow i install this GNU autoconf + automake12:45
zOap_win1randabis. ok then igo to ubuntulinux an download the linux-headers right? and then what? how to compile it?12:45
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XappePugio-Other, deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/Ubuntu/apt/ binary/12:46
farruinnsilva: apt-get install or synaptic is your friend12:46
randabisyou'll need to get the linux headers, put them into /usr/src, then follow the directions for compiling the module you need12:46
XappePugio-Other, deb-src http://wine.sourceforge.net/Ubuntu/apt/ source/12:46
randabisyou'll need the source for the module you want to compile12:46
zOap_win1randabis. but where is the description? where to find it?12:47
mike998Helios_:pardon me, I stepped away...12:47
Pugio-OtherXappe - so in synaptic I would put in those links? do I put anything into the "secitons" field?12:47
Helios_np12:47
mike998Helios_: ndiswrapper -l shows the correct driver installed... but it's a 802.11g driver and I *think* this card can do b/g12:47
Pugio-OtherXappe sorry, I'm new to debian12:48
Helios_does it say driver installed / hardware present?12:48
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mike998yep12:48
XappePugio-Other, add them to your /etc/apt/sources.list ( sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list )12:48
mike998had to install hoary to get the thing to work12:48
Helios_then it should work12:49
Helios_hoarry?12:49
Helios_( -r )12:49
zOap_win1shock. i wonder if it isnt more easy to install ndiswrapper and install the windows driver... but i cant install that either.. if you  could just get me a workthrough i'd apresiate it..12:49
mike998yeah... i had to install hoary for it to work12:49
zOap_win1soory, randabis. i mean..12:49
Helios_Mike998: Can you tell me what Hoary is? I'm getting some trouble with my WLAN card lately12:50
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mike998can you hang on a bit - baby is crying12:50
looksausHelios_, hoary is the devel version of ubuntu12:50
randabiszOap_win1, find the correct linux-headers for your running kernel here12:50
randabishttp://higgs.djpig.de/ubuntu/www/12:50
mpqokay, I have a different problem now12:50
Helios_sure12:50
zOap_win1randabis. ok12:50
randabisyou should also get linux-restricted-modules for your kernel also12:50
shock<zOap_win1> hm... a complete walkthough through what exactly12:51
mpqthe CD works, but I can't get on the internet while I'm in ubuntu12:51
shockthe kernel thing is explained in detail in that howto12:51
Pugio-OtherXappe - ok I know this is dumb12:51
randabisthe module might already be in restricted modules12:51
Pugio-OtherXappe but I must have entered these wrong12:51
mpqI don't know how to get on the internet while I'm on linux12:51
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Pugio-OtherXappe I have "deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/Ubuntu/apt/ binary/"12:51
Pugio-Otheras one line12:51
Xappeand so it should be12:52
farruinndoes linux kernel work w/ OS X's "unix filesystem"?12:52
mpqI don't know how to get on the internet in ubuntu12:52
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mpqcan anyone help?12:52
Pugio-Otherfarruinn I think you can compile support for it12:52
randabisfarruinn, doubt it12:52
looksausmpq, it would be useful if you're more specific12:52
Pugio-Otherrandabis I remember it being there12:52
zOap_win1randabis, you have lost me ages ago, i dont know what headers to get... cant you just give me a walkthrough on how installing ndiswrapper?12:52
randabissince OSX's kernel is closer to bsd12:52
mpqI don't know how to connect to the internet12:52
looksausfarruinn, I think there is at least some hfs+ support, yes12:52
mpqI have a wireless cable router12:52
mpqI don't know how to set it up in ubuntu12:52
farruinnlooksaus: true12:52
shock<randabis> the module might already be in restricted modules <-- thats what i just figuered12:52
shock:P12:52
mpqwhen I'm on windows it connects at startup12:53
mpqbut I don't know how to set up the connection12:53
randabisoh, I misunderstood faruinn's question12:53
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looksausmpq, have you got the possibility to use a wired connection to get started?12:53
XappePugio-Other, what does it say when you do the apt-get update?12:53
mpqyeah12:53
randabisI though he meant is there support for the linux kernel in osx lol12:53
looksausthat would be a lot easier12:53
daakui'm trying to figure out how to get gnome's keyboard shortcuts to see Super_L as a modifier instead of a regular key?12:53
farruinnrandabis: hahah12:54
speelhey sup .. i have a question is it possible to make a mp3 cd with nautalis like to listen to it in your cd player???12:54
looksausmaybe you should try to get a wired connection running12:54
farruinnrandabis: that'd just be silly! ;)12:54
randabishehe12:54
looksausso you can troubleshoot your wireless from within ubuntu12:54
randabisbut yeah, there is some HFS+ support12:54
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Xappespeel, i would try graveman for that12:54
speelgraveman?12:55
Xappespeel, cd burning app12:55
randabiszOap_win1, what wireless chipset do you have?12:55
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ChazzleHello?12:55
randabishi12:55
speelah ok damn but nautalis does not do it for you?12:55
Xappespeel, if you want to create an audio cd from mp312:55
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ChazzleI am looking to install ubuntu this eve.12:55
randabisgood luck12:56
ChazzleI am relatively new....12:56
Xappespeel, then I don't think so12:56
randabisit's pretty easy12:56
speelhmm ok thanks il probably just install k3b12:56
ChazzleI have the iso disc.12:56
randabisokay12:56
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Chazzlewhen I insert the disc, what do I need to do.12:56
Chazzle?12:56
looksausChazzle, boot the computer12:56
randabisyou'll need to set your BIOS to boot from CD12:56
ChazzleI know that I need to set the BIOS to CD-ROM12:57
thechitowncubsOk, I have a problem when trying to run make xconfig, this is what it gives me...   HOSTCC  scripts/basic/fixdep12:57
thechitowncubs/bin/sh: line 1: gcc: command not found12:57
thechitowncubsmake[1] : *** [scripts/basic/fixdep]  Error 12712:57
thechitowncubsmake: *** [scripts_basic]  Error 212:57
looksauswith the... randabis was faster12:57
Xappespeel, give graveman a try first. think it's in the hoary repos at least (but i'm not sure if warty has it)12:57
randabisokay12:57
ChazzleRight...how do I do that .12:57
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farruinnrandabis: yeah, some hfs+ - some directories show up as files :D, but I'll deal with that later12:57
thechitowncubsThis is my first time compiling it12:57
Helios_Anyone know what a good Wiki server would be?12:57
speelok thanks12:57
randabisChazzle, depends on your BIOS...do you know how to get into it?12:57
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WWfarruin: Coming to you from my newly installed monitor... thanks again.12:57
Chazzlerandabis...nope.12:57
terryI am trying to get wine working in a 32bit chroot and it doesnt want to work12:58
randabisusually you hit the delete key when the computer starts up, could be F1 or F2 also12:58
looksausin 99% of cases, pressing F1 or Del at startup12:58
ChazzleIt is an old machine that was donated to me, and it has Xp12:58
terrywhen I try to run wine, I get this error /usr/bin/wine: line 471: 11338 Segmentation fault      $WINEBIN/$WINE_BIN_NAME "$@"12:58
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terryanyone get this problem, and find a resolution for this??12:58
VAXenB1tchHello and good day everybody12:58
randabisdo you want to keep XP on it with ubuntu?12:58
terrymy chroot is hoary, and my normal system is hoary12:58
ChazzleI thank you for this.12:58
VAXenB1tchis there a channel in this network for VAX/OpenVMS users?12:58
Chazzlerandabis.12:58
VAXenB1tch:)12:59
randabisthat's my name.12:59
ChazzleSo, if I hit f1 or Del @ startup, I am ready to go?  I was thanking you randabis. :)12:59
looksausChazzle, then you'll probably get into the bios01:00
ChazzleAllright, looksaus, thank you.01:00
looksauswhere there will be an option called "boot order" or something01:00
Chazzlek.01:00
looksauslook at your startup screen, the exact key will probably be mentioned01:00
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Chazzlethis is really exciting for me, as I love the idea behind this project.01:01
looksaus:)01:01
ChazzleK.01:01
ChazzleI can't wait to get home!01:01
Helios_i gtg01:02
Helios_bye01:02
randabisChazzle, yes, you'll need to find something that mentions your boot order in the BIOS. You'll need to change the first boot device to CDROM01:02
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ChazzleGreat,01:03
Chazzleso, make the boot device CDROM, then that will kick it01:03
randabisthen you'll need to save the changes, and exit01:03
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Chazzlethanks randabis and looksaus..01:04
randabismore than likely your first boot device is currently the cdrom01:04
randabiserr01:04
randabisfloppy01:04
Chazzleright.01:04
Chazzleprobably so.01:04
Chazzleit is a bit of an old thing.01:04
randabisso you can just change it, do your install, and if you want change it back01:04
randabisare you going to wipe xp from it? :)01:05
ChazzleYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS  ;)01:05
randabisthank god :p01:05
looksaus:)01:05
randabisit should be called fisher price OS01:05
ChazzleI am looking to fix up machines and donate to teen centers around my city.01:05
Chazzleno doubt randabis.01:05
looksausnice idea, Chazzle01:06
randabisthe default theme is ridiculous haha01:06
Chazzlethanks man.01:06
ChazzleI know.01:06
looksausif you get to explore Linux further, you should really look at things like LTSP then01:06
ChazzleI am also a mac user, and was appalled at how terribly they copied OS X with XP01:06
ChazzleLTSP...do tell01:06
thechitowncubsPlease help me01:07
looksausrecycling old computers as terminals on a central server01:07
looksaushttp://www.ltsp.org01:07
Chazzlewow...that is a great idea!01:07
looksaus(will take you some time though, if you're new to Linux)01:07
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ChazzleI will definitely check it out.01:08
Chazzlethanks...01:08
Telepall the computers for students at our department use ltsp01:08
Anubisso mplayer isdead for hoarty?01:08
Telepwell, almost all01:08
looksausTelep, I just installed a 30 machine LTSP lab at my former primary school01:09
Telep:)01:09
ChazzleThat sounds really cool.01:09
Telepwell, we're a CS department :D01:09
looksausTelep, me no IT man, me musician01:10
mike998Helios_:01:10
mike998Helios_: I am back... sorry about that01:10
Telepthey've provided access to Windows apps using remote desktop and vmware :)01:10
ChazzleLooksaus,01:10
Chazzlesomething else that interests me is music.01:10
looksausyes?01:11
Chazzleare there some good linux music editors out there?01:11
Chazzlelike samplers,01:11
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Chazzlebeat machines,01:11
Chazzlerecorders?01:11
looksaushm, there's a nice HD recording thing called ardour01:11
Krypt0nOoh, good question.. beat machines would be a cool thing to have.01:11
looksaus(http://www.ardour.org)01:11
uxfChazzle: I belive I saw something once on sourgefourge... counldnt tell you what though01:11
Chazzlecool.01:11
randabisChazzle, audacity is good too01:11
looksausif you're into music notation, and you're not afraid of a very steep learning curve01:11
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Krypt0nHow about something like Fruity Loops? (FLStudio)01:12
looksausyou might want to check out Lilypond (http://lilypond.org)01:12
ChazzleMan!01:12
ChazzleI came to the right place!01:12
randabisKrypt0n, probably ardour sould be similar01:12
ChazzleThanks.01:12
looksausVERY good quality output, but difficult to learn01:12
Krypt0nrandabis: Awesome, thanks :)01:12
silvachecking for working aclocal... missing01:12
looksaussome output examples are at http://www.mutopiaproject.org01:12
silvaim trying instal a prog01:12
ChazzleI am sooo new to all of this that I don't even know how to save/print this dialogue we have had.01:12
ChazzleHelp?01:12
silvawhat i do for install01:13
randabissilva, you need automake, and autoconf I think01:13
silvachecking for working aclocal... missing01:13
looksaussilva, what are you trying to install?01:13
silvaso waht i do for install that ones01:13
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randabissudo apt-get install autoconf automake1.001:13
randabissudo apt-get install autoconf automake1.901:13
randabissorry01:13
silvai try use the synaptic01:13
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randabisthey are in synaptic also01:14
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looksausdamn, I had gotten used to compiling compact monolithic kernels01:14
mpqokay, I'm on ubuntu now01:14
mpqbut I have no idea what I'm doing01:14
looksausbuilding the entire tree, even for one arch is a huge work!01:14
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auraxhello again01:15
zOap_wini nerandabis, when i try to install ndiswrapper i get error: cant find kernel sources in /lib/modules/2.6.8.1-3/build01:15
looksausmpq, this is a small success already, right?01:15
mpqyes01:15
zOap_winrandabis, look up01:15
looksausmpq, wired connection?01:15
mpqyeah01:15
mpqubuntu doesn't seem to support the wireless01:15
looksauswhat kind of wireless is it? pci? usb? pcmcia?01:16
mpquhh... I'm not sure01:16
looksaus(desktop card, usb stick, laptop expansion card)01:16
mpqI'm on a laptop01:16
Krypt0nis it built in?01:16
mpqI think so01:16
Krypt0nmight be minipci01:16
looksausKrypt0n, won't he be able to see more info with lspci or some frontend to that?01:17
zOap_winlooksaus, maybe you can help me. when itry to install ndiswrapper i get this error: cant find kernel sources in /lib/modules/2.6.1-3/build... what do i need to do?01:17
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mpqthere's a light on the front that's on when the wireless is on01:17
mpqand a button01:17
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Krypt0nlooksaus: Possibly, I'm a bit of a n00b myself actually, but I assume so :)01:17
mpqthe card won't turn on in ubuntu01:18
mpqso I'm stuck on a wired connection01:18
mpquntil I figure this out01:18
looksauszOap_win, not much experience with ndiswrapper, but that kernel version looks strange to me01:18
Krypt0nWhat model laptop is it?01:18
mpqhp pavilion01:18
zOap_winlooksaus, ubuntu wharty...01:18
Krypt0ngot a specific model number?01:18
mpqze490001:18
zOap_winlooksaus, its 2.6.8.1-3...01:19
looksausmpq, open a terminal and use lspci -vv01:19
looksausah, k01:19
zOap_winlooksaus, do i need to add something somewhre..?01:19
looksausmpq, you might want to do that as root01:19
djkzOap_win01:19
djkinstall linux-headers01:19
Krypt0nmpq: http://www.geocities.com/clsdaniel/ze4900.html01:19
Krypt0nTry that :)01:19
djkfor your kernel01:19
djkthat'll fix it01:20
looksausI have no experience using ndiswrappers, but I ... djk was faster than me01:20
zOap_windjk, ok. but i dont have a internet connection on that machine...01:20
djkwell uh01:20
djkdo you have a cd writer?01:20
djkin your PC?01:20
zOap_winyes, but i dont know what headers to isntall01:20
looksausmpq, what does lspci say?01:20
djk2.6.8.1-3 is your kernel?01:20
mpqhang on01:20
djkif so, download the headers for that01:20
zOap_windjk, yes01:20
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zOap_windjk, where do i find it?01:21
mpqI'm still new to opening windows01:21
djkwait01:21
zOap_winand how do i install it?01:21
Chazzleyouse are all busy...thank you again for the tremendous amount of help.01:21
ChazzleI am out.01:21
looksausChazzle, see you!01:21
ChazzleI WILL BE BACK!01:22
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looksaus:)-01:22
mpqdifferent question: is there a way to run .exe files in linux?01:22
mpqit's kind of annoying that I can't use any of my programs right now01:22
zOap_winmpq, wine01:22
mpqwhere do I get that?01:22
zOap_winapt-get install wine01:23
looksausmpq, there are really good functional equivalents for about everything01:23
housetierif they are .net binaries, mono might be able to execute .exe files01:23
looksausyou really want to try these out first01:23
mpq...01:23
mpqI am so in over my head01:23
looksausnative programs are always a LOT better integrated01:23
looksausmpq, is there anything in particular you miss?01:24
silvaFormat: 1.001:24
silvaSource: automake1.901:24
silvaVersion: 1.9.4-101:24
mpqI'll think of something01:24
silva sudo apt-get install automake1.901:24
mpqI have a japanese dictionary01:24
silvaand01:24
mpqand a lot of games01:24
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silva: Couldn't find package automake1.901:25
looksausok, the easier & older games and the dictionary might work01:25
looksauswith wine01:25
mpqwhere do I get it?01:25
looksausbut don't hold your breath, it's always a bit risky01:25
looksausmpq, I'd have to look... don't use it myself01:25
mpqemulators always are01:25
looksaushttp://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb01:26
looksausmpq, google is your friend...01:26
silvacan some one help me01:27
WWwine is available in the Ubuntu universe repository.01:27
looksausoh, nice01:27
WWYou can install wine with Synaptic.01:27
looksaussilva, could you please repeat what you are trying to do?01:27
randabiszOap_win, http://higgs.djpig.de/cgi-ubuntu/search_packages.pl?keywords=linux-headers&searchon=names&subword=1&version=warty&release=all01:27
mpqI am so confused01:28
looksausmpq, So was Columbus when he discovered America01:28
mpqlol01:28
mpqColumbus didn't use computers01:29
bitfooi found a sweet personal finance program today to replace ms money :D01:29
Anubisrhythmbox is dead for me in Hoarty after last update, and now xmms works again01:29
looksaus... but he did think he was in India...01:29
moquistbitfoo: what program?01:29
bitfoomoneydance01:29
mpqI don't even know how to partition01:29
bitfooits way better than gnucash  imho01:30
looksausmpq, you did install ubuntu, right? so you did partition...01:30
mpqI'm running a live cd01:30
looksausoh...01:30
mpqI wanted to try it out before installing01:30
looksausgood idea01:31
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arjhi01:31
shockbitfoo?01:31
mpqI didn't want to make big changes to my computer before even trying it out01:31
bitfooshock?01:31
shockwger did u find tat?01:31
shockwhere?01:31
bitfooi forget01:31
shocklol01:31
shocknarf.01:31
bitfoobut the address is www.moneydance.com01:31
shockah ok01:32
shockthx01:32
looksausmpq, could you execute the following command01:33
looksausopen a root terminal01:33
mpqI did that01:33
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mpqwhat do I do?01:33
looksauslspci -vv|grep oadcom01:33
looksausthis gives a raw hardware list01:33
looksausand looks through it for the string "oadcom"01:33
mpq0000:02:06.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM94306 802.11g (rev 03)01:34
looksausok, that's your wireless, now we're sure01:34
mpqhow do I turn it on?01:34
shock<bitfoo> -- is the linux-version any good? qt? gtk+?01:34
shockit the trial interesting?01:34
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mpqwhen I'm in windows I can just press a button on the front01:34
looksausmpq, the problem with this wireless thing is you'll have to fiddle a little01:34
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mpqthe button doesn't do anything now01:35
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looksausbroadcom is famous for not releasing even the most basic info on their wireless chips01:35
mpqthanks, I already knew my laptop sucked01:35
looksausnot all is lost, though01:35
looksausthere is ndiswrapper01:35
looksausbut I have little experience with that01:36
arjdoes ubuntu work with USB modem?01:36
looksausmpq, it will probably be difficult to get that one to work from a live CD01:36
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looksausI could be wrong though01:36
shockis there a gtk+ gui vor vlc ?01:36
HrdwrBoByes01:36
looksausarj, depends...01:36
HrdwrBoBit's terrible01:36
mpqyeah, probably01:36
HrdwrBoBbut yes01:36
arji tried mandrake 9.2 last year01:37
mpqI'm going to install it later01:37
arjbut it didnt' work with mine01:37
mpqI just wanted to see it and try it out01:37
bitfooyeah try the trial shock01:37
randabisjdub, are you around?01:37
looksausmpq, it certainly is possible and not too difficult from a HD install though01:37
mpqwhich was why I was using the live cd01:37
bitfooshock:http://www.linuxlinks.com/Software/Financial/01:37
bitfooi find more :O01:37
looksausarj, DSL modem? POTS modem?01:37
arjdsl01:38
mpqdifferent problem: the mouse is too sensitive01:38
arjipm datacom01:38
jdubrandabis: yes01:38
shockthx bitfoo01:38
randabisah01:38
randabisokay01:38
mpqwhen I move the mouse a tiny bit the cursor goes too fast01:38
looksausarj, do yourself a favour and buy an ethernet model01:38
randabisin hoary, boot-admin seems to be missing01:38
arjI'd like01:38
mpqhow do I change the sensitivity in ubuntu?01:38
randabisI think it was a part of gnome-system-tools01:38
looksauswill be a lot easier, no matter what platform01:38
arjto make wireless LAn01:38
randabisit was the app that let you edit menu.lst in a graphical menu01:38
arjbut I'd start to work onlinux by now01:39
arjand without internet connection there's very few things i can do01:39
randabiswhat I was wondering is, if this app would return01:40
randabisor if it was renamed01:40
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randabisthere's no icon for it to be found if it still exists, and I can't find it in /usr/bin either01:41
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arjanyway01:42
shockurks.. i hope there is a jre comming with it01:42
arjthanks for the efforts01:42
arjbye01:42
bitfooi'd like to ask a non-ubuntu question...01:43
bitfoowhere can i buy a small table?01:43
bitfoo:|01:43
shockIKEA?01:43
mpqI just realized I'd have to reinstall all my firefox extensions01:43
bitfooikea is super far :(01:43
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looksausmpq, you mean if starting ubuntu from the live CD?01:44
randabisyou get all that jdub? I can file a bug if need be01:44
shock<mpq> desktop->preferences->mouse ?01:44
mpqI had firefox in windows01:44
mpqthe windows version of firefox doesn't work in linux01:44
shocki use epiphany and im happy with that browser :P01:44
bitfooyou know the firefox extensions work in linux too right?01:45
mpqit was more all my bookmarks01:46
mpqwill it import my settings from the windows version?01:46
bitfoojust export them01:46
bitfooand save them on a disk or on the web and then import them :|01:46
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shockdamn... how do i tell vlc to use the gtk interface?01:49
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netdur(00:47:05) j*****i: I mean life is fucked up, I'm not able to download my ubuntu wallpaper for my nokia phone!01:49
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bitfoothe poop brown wallpaper?01:49
netdurwhat I should tell him?01:49
netdurkinda I'm doing ubuntu support over IM01:50
looksaus:)01:50
randabishe LIKES the poopy paper?01:50
randabishaha01:50
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looksausif not, he could always use GIMP to make another wallpaper01:51
looksausoh, no, wait, GIMP's for toilet paper...01:51
netdurLOL01:51
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liquid_hi01:52
liquid_how can I change the screen refreshrate in X?01:52
looksausliquid_, zo in het gat van de nacht kom jij achter verversingsfrequentie vragen :p01:53
liquid_I can't using some xtool .. I know my CRT monitor allows more the 85Hz @ 1280 x 102401:53
auraxi have a question, is there a way to image my system to a with a cdrw/dvdrw and duplicate my system to other boxes from it like with some kind of executed boot01:53
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liquid_hello looksaus01:53
liquid_=)01:53
auraxlike install the copy from the cd to the harddrive01:53
liquid_yeah in the middle of the night :/01:53
auraxinstaller*01:53
looksausliquid_, Desktop -> Administration -> Screen resolution01:53
looksausoh, hm, I'm on hoary, so maybe somewhere else in the menus01:54
liquid_looksaus, well I figured that part out except that I can't go higher then 60Hz @ 1280 x 102801:54
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liquid_My eyes start to hurt and tears all over the place01:54
looksausliquid_, you could go into your config file manually01:55
randabisComputer-->System Configuration-->Screen resolution I think for warty01:55
mpqhow do I access a USB flash drive?01:55
looksausmpq, plug it in?01:55
mpqI did01:55
mpqit didn't recognize it or something01:55
liquid_randabis yes I did that and that's what I told looksaus.. but what about the confige file? you mean the configfile /etc/X11/XF86... ? sorry I'm new to X never used X before always console01:56
repetempq: `sudo tail -f /var/log/messages`01:56
looksausliquid_, warty uses Xfree, right? or Xorg?01:56
repetempq: see what the kernel says01:56
looksausmpq, or tail dmesg01:56
liquid_looksaus, as far as I know it's XFree8601:56
liquid_hey shouldn't he be mounting the flash device?01:57
looksaus/etc/X11/XF86Config , then?01:57
liquid_n/m I'm console junkie :P01:57
randabisliquid_, /etc/X11/XF86Config-401:57
mpqliquid, how do I do that?01:57
looksaussorry liquid01:57
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repetein hoary it is taken care of by hal/dbus01:57
randabisbut you need to know what to edit01:57
looksausmpq, open a terminal and type that01:57
sycatHello, any network gurus in here ?01:57
mpqit says there's no directory01:57
auraxdamn why every app on gnome asking for root password even when i logged in as root01:58
randabisuh, you logged in as root?01:58
auraxyeh01:58
randabisWHY?01:58
repetempq: you can try `sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/usbkey` provided /mnt/usbkey exists01:58
auraxcuz im root01:58
looksausoh, sorry... distracted01:58
auraxno?01:58
auraxlol01:58
auraxdoesnt matter01:58
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auraxi have this issue with gnome on ubuntu01:58
mpqit doesn't exist01:58
randabisyou know you're really risking the bank going on the net as root...01:59
repetempq: which doesn't exist?01:59
mpqthe mount01:59
auraxeven when im logged in as my user it asks for passwords and dont load01:59
auraxdont load i mean for certein application01:59
liquid_okay I'm editting the config file but how do I know the horizontal and vertical refreshrate? I just want 85Hz @ 1280 x 102401:59
randabisprobably because it wants your user password not root's password01:59
auraxits the same01:59
repetempq: if /mnt/usbkey doesn't exist use `sudo mkdir -p /mnt/usbkey`02:00
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randabisroot shouldn't even be enabled in the first place...not reason for him to be02:00
mebaran151identify ginger02:00
mebaran151sorry02:00
mebaran151whoopsees02:00
mebaran151heheh02:00
repetempq: if /dev/sda1 doesn't exist that means the kernel is using some other device02:00
mebaran151now I need to change my passwd02:00
mebaran151damn02:00
liquid_hi this is in the config file:02:00
mebaran151I hate Nickserv02:00
mebaran151ok02:00
liquid_        Identifier      "Generic Monitor"02:00
liquid_        HorizSync       30-6502:00
liquid_        VertRefresh     50-7502:00
repetempq: in which case you need to check dmesg02:00
randabisthat's what you need to change02:01
randabisyou need it to match the HS and VR rates of your monitor02:01
liquid_randabis me?02:01
mebaran151at least it was just a silly nickserv password02:01
randabisyes02:01
liquid_randabis how do I find that out?02:01
randabisyour monitor's documention02:01
liquid_ohw chips! I don't have those :/02:02
liquid_I'll google it02:02
liquid_thanks02:02
randabisjdub?02:02
mpqI think I'm going to try actually installing it this time02:03
jdubrandabis: yes02:03
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randabisyou get the messages I sent about boot-admin?02:03
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randabisI sent in channel, not pm02:03
basculehello02:03
liquid_okay randabis I found it out but here they are and still very confusing02:04
wk1989Hi ppl!02:04
wk1989I need ur help with a problem02:04
liquid_Horizontal Frequency  30 to 96kHz02:04
liquid_Vertical Frequency 50 to 160Hz02:04
wk1989pls listen02:04
liquid_wk1989,  we can't! we can only read what you type :P02:04
jdubrandabis: nick highlight helps, this is a busy channel :)02:04
wk1989I want to give 5 more gigs to my Ubuntu partition from my Windows drive02:04
randabisjdub sorry!02:05
wk1989*windows partition02:05
randabisjdub in hoary, boot-admin seems to be missing02:05
basculewk1989: ap-get install qt-parted02:05
wk1989I'm thinking of using Partition Magic to resize the Ubuntu partition02:05
basculewk1989: ap-get install qtparted02:05
basculeone of them02:05
liquid_wk1989, use some windows partitioning software such as partition magic and mount it in ubuntu02:05
randabisjdub I think it was a part of gnome-system-tools02:05
repetejdub: This is Pete Goodall02:05
wk1989bascule : does it resize partition though? I don't want to loose ANY data!02:05
randabisjdub it was the app that let you edit menu.lst in a graphical menu02:05
repetejdub: we met at GUADEC last year02:05
basculewk1989: yes it does all that stuff02:06
wk1989bascule : And it keeps the DATA?02:06
wk1989thx02:06
wk1989that's wonderful!02:06
liquid_wk1989,  that's why you need to use some windows partitioning program because you might know what you're doing. Repartitioning a live partition is always dangerous02:06
repetejdub: just wondering if you would be at LWE next week02:06
basculeyes, it should, but you knowhow these things are ...02:06
randabisjdub what I was wondering is, if this app would return02:06
wk1989ok02:07
liquid_randabis did you read what I pasted? or missed it?02:07
wk1989But after I resize the Ubuntu partition, is it gonna automatically realize that change in size?02:07
jdubrepete: cool02:07
jdubrepete: no, won't be :)02:07
liquid_wk1989,  yeah it should :)02:07
repetebummer :-/02:07
wk1989Or do I have to do something, like to refresh it?02:07
wk1989ok02:07
randabisjdub there's no icon for it to be found and it can't be found in /usr/bin02:07
jdubrepete: you may see mako there, however02:07
wk1989thx liquid!02:07
liquid_yw02:07
jdubrandabis: we don't support boot-admin, didn't ship it in warty02:07
repetejdub: don't think I have met him/her before02:08
randabisjdub, well there was a program that would edit grub's config in the gnome config menu02:08
randabisit used to be there, and it's not anymore02:08
randabisit was in Desktop --> Administration I believe02:09
jdubrandabis: it was available for a time in hoary before we disabled it again02:09
randabisah02:09
liquid_uhm okay guys a simpel question: I have the specs of the Horizontal and vertical refresh rate of my monitor. but it has a range between. What must I set in the config file? the max Horizontal and max verticalrate? or should I make a choice at some resolution?02:09
randabisis there any chance of getting it back? I'm asking this for a friend02:09
jdubno, we don't support it02:09
randabisokay02:10
MobyTurboliquid_, use a dash between the minimum and maximum, assuming that it's multisync.02:10
randabisis there something wrong with it or something? just curious02:10
liquid_thanks02:10
liquid_brb02:10
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jdubrandabis: yes, it tends to break, but also, it is not the right design for normal use cases02:11
randabisjdub, ah okay. thanks for letting me know so I didn't go and file a useless bug report about it :p02:12
Tr0gd0ri did apt-get install vncserver how do i run the server now?02:14
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randabiswhy don't you just use vino? gnome's built-in vnc server?02:14
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Tr0gd0rnot using gnome02:15
Tr0gd0rheh02:15
randabisah02:15
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randabiswell, might wanna use x11vnc instead of vncserver02:15
Tr0gd0rmain problem is i have a huge box on the screen, i need to click next02:15
Tr0gd0rand the resolution is at 64002:15
Tr0gd0rso i cant see next02:15
Tr0gd0rand its connected to a tv02:16
Tr0gd0rlol02:16
randabistab to it maybe02:16
Tr0gd0rno keyboard02:16
Tr0gd0rits really an xbox02:16
Tr0gd0rheh02:16
randabisdunno02:17
mpqI'm downloading the install cd iso now02:17
Grendel|  ~+02:18
ubhutiGrendel|: No idea02:18
hybridif i grab the hoary iso and upgrade will it keep evrything i already got installed?02:18
Grendel|I dropped the keyboard =P02:19
randabishybrid, you don't use an iso to upgrade an existing system02:19
randabisyou use apt02:19
hybridrandabis : ok what is the argument for apt?02:19
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Grendel|can sombody tell me how to fix the following?02:20
randabishybrid http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GuideToHoary02:20
Grendel|cli_negprot: SMB signing is mandatory and we have disabled it.02:20
Grendel|23785: protocol negotiation failed02:20
Grendel|SMB connection failed02:20
hybridthnx02:20
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Cinduxhm02:21
Cinduxim new to linux & commands & just wondering02:21
mpqI know the USB drive works on linux02:21
Cinduxwhat the command "cd" stands for ?02:22
Cinduxif it has an actual meaning02:22
Cinduxother than of course, compact disc02:22
hybridchange dir02:22
Cinduxoh02:22
Cindux:P02:22
Cinduxty02:22
hybridlol02:22
hybridnp02:22
Cinduxyes that should have been self expl = /02:22
Cinduxespecially when the dir moved..02:22
Cinduxcough02:22
hybridglade i could help sum1 instead of b helped02:22
Grendel|considering what it does02:22
Cinduxgrendel = /02:22
MobyTurboCindux, "cd" is even a command in MS-DOS and the equivalent Windows window.02:23
Cinduxfamiliar02:23
Cinduxoh ic02:23
Cinduxi dont like windows :02:23
hybridcan mean check dir02:23
mpqI don't like windows either02:23
hybridlol who does?02:23
MobyTurbome neither, and DOS has a very crippled command line.02:23
Grendel|me02:23
Cinduxlol02:23
Grendel|more or less02:23
Cinduxyes02:23
Cinduxdid you by chance02:23
Cinduxgo to a forum called "g2x" ?02:23
Grendel|for it's simplicity and keeping users happy02:23
mpqI don't like windows, which is why I wanted to try out linux in the first place02:24
hybridmpq : me too02:24
Cindux= /02:24
surroundercan imagine mpq :)02:24
CinduxLinux sounds coola to :d02:24
MobyTurboI tried out Linux kernel 0.95 when I wanted a free Unix, after having experienced a Unix shell, so I'm a bit of an old hand at this.02:24
Cinduxwho wants to say im running Windows02:24
Cinduxwhen you could say im running linux02:24
Cindux:P02:24
Grendel|well..02:24
=== surrounder pets Cindux
hybridmpq : i went from me to xp to osx then ubuntu02:25
Grendel|I'm running both02:25
Cinduxhm02:25
Grendel|2k3 server, XP and Ubuntu02:25
Cinduxosx = built off unix02:25
Cinduxso woo!02:25
Grendel|anyway..02:25
surrounderpuuh wish I had the money for an mac02:25
MobyTurbohybrid, are you running Linux PPC?02:25
hybridMobyTurbo : yup02:25
Grendel|I need to connect to a share on the LAN using login/password, and ubuntu won't let me02:25
Cinduxlol woah02:25
MobyTurbothat's cool. :-)02:26
Cinduxtheirs a command called finger02:26
Cinduxlol02:26
Grendel|somebody know what to do+02:26
Grendel|?02:26
hybridCindux : it is a sucky unix crippled like dos02:26
surrounderGrendel|: did you read ubuntuguide.org ?02:26
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Cinduxah bla02:26
surrounderGrendel|: lots of handy info there about samba02:26
CinduxI wish I had Ubuntu right now02:26
Grendel|I've tried it before02:26
Cinduxbut long story short I've been running a p3 600mhz / 128mb ram pc with 4mb memory02:26
hybridCindux : y u dont02:26
Grendel|think I have the command right, but I get an error message02:27
Cinduxthat lagged on the screensavers...02:27
hybridlol02:27
Cinduxit did02:27
Grendel|cli_negprot: SMB signing is mandatory and we have disabled it.02:27
Grendel|23785: protocol negotiation failed02:27
Grendel|SMB connection failed02:27
Cinduxim not joking02:27
Cinduxmy fps could go down to 502:27
surrounderCindux: would work just ok wouldn't it ?02:27
Cinduxanyway I took the hdd / cd rom drive out & am waiting for my barebone :P02:27
Cinduxwel no..02:27
Grendel|if anyone could tell me how to fix it...02:27
surrounderCindux: I've installed archlinux on my gf's pc, p3 600 Mhz with 64 MB RAM, runs quite nicely :)02:28
MobyTurboCindux, you can remove the 3D screen savers by removing the xscreensaver-gl package.02:28
surrounderCindux: enlightenment and/or fluxbox and you're done :)02:28
Cinduxim not saying ubuntu didnt run well02:28
Cinduxit ran quite fast for that pc actually02:28
Cinduxits just that the pc itself had problems02:28
surrounderaaah okay, that's nasty indeed02:28
Cinduxnot "sure" though02:28
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CinduxI tried running starcraft on it & it more than meets the minimum req02:29
Cinduxeven then single player lagged02:29
timothycan someone help me get .mov files working as a browser plugin in ubuntu?02:29
Cinduxno internet connection02:29
hybridd00d if internet == 0 then how you on here02:29
MobyTurbotimothy, check out RestrictedFormats on the wiki02:30
Cinduxno02:30
CinduxI ran it OFF the internet02:30
Cinduxpurposely to make sure i was lagging because of a connection problem02:30
Cinduxthe problem still existed02:30
hybridoo ok02:30
Tr0gd0rwhen i install jre, where am i supposed to put it02:30
Cindux:(02:30
hybridi thot u were saying u had not internet02:30
hybridlol02:30
Tr0gd0rwhich folder does it go under02:30
Cinduxlol bla02:30
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Tr0gd0ri have it in my /home and i know it goes somewhere else02:30
Cinduxim so excited to run Ubuntu on a decent PC :D02:31
hybridlife today would be impossible w/out the internet or another info highway this big02:31
MobyTurboTr0gd0r, /usr/local is a decent place. Or use java-package to make a deb out of it.02:31
Cinduxprobably lol02:31
Tr0gd0rwell i did exactly what it said to ln the file in my home for firefox02:31
Tr0gd0rbut java still doesnt work02:32
Grendel|surrounder: I tried what it said in the guide. didn't work02:32
Cinduxwe'd have some other form of fast file transfer across the world02:32
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Cinduxlike mailing floppies in high performance jets02:32
surrounderGrendel|: hmmm can't help you any further then...sorry :(02:32
MobyTurboTr0gd0r, the deb automatically installs it. By the way, you need to run "ln -s" not just ln.02:32
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Tr0gd0rya i did02:32
Tr0gd0rhmm how do i deb?02:32
Tr0gd0rmake a deb02:32
Grendel|surrounder: I believe it is that it doesn't allow passwords and such to be used.02:33
surrounderGrendel|: it should...02:33
Grendel|it says that samba signing have been disabled02:33
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Grendel|so it seems that I need to enable it02:33
MobyTurboTr0gd0r, the instructions are too much for IRC, check out the wiki.02:33
Tr0gd0romg i wish it just worked02:33
Tr0gd0ri ln -s and nothing02:33
Cinduxstupid question, but what does dev mean exactly02:34
Grendel|surrounder: the error I get is: cli_negprot: SMB signing is mandatory and we have disabled it.02:34
Tr0gd0rdevice?02:34
Grendel|23785: protocol negotiation failed02:34
MobyTurboCindux, device02:34
Grendel|SMB connection failed02:34
Cinduxbla02:34
Cinduxlol02:34
Cinduxty02:34
Cinduxso this "mount/device/hda1"02:34
surrounderGrendel|: isn't that an error or the other side of the connection?02:34
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Cinduxmeans to mount this specific device :d02:34
surrounderGrendel|: just guessing here cause I'm no expert on samba...02:34
surrounderGrendel|: trying to get it to work here too ;)02:35
Orcristanyone here isntalled gdesklets on warty from the .debs?02:35
Grendel|well.. I doubt it02:35
terryokay has anyone attempted to run a game in fullscreen mode under wine and Ubuntu Hoary, I am trying to isolate where the problem is.  When I run the game, the gnome-panel stays on the screen and resizes to fit the new resolution02:35
Grendel|since it mentions something disabled in smb02:35
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Tr0gd0romg i was typing obj instead of oji02:39
randabisOrcrist, I did when I used warty02:39
MobyTurboTr0gd0r, glad you solved your problem. :-)02:40
randabisOrcrist, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=301202:40
Orcristrandabis, did you have any issues with python? when I run gdesklets I get a deprecation warning a couple of functions then it exits02:40
Orcristahh thanks02:40
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hybridhow can i edit etc/apt/source.list02:46
hybridgedit says i cant cus it is read only02:46
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randabissudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list02:47
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hybridok thnx02:47
Cinduxcan you use the "rm" command to remove a DIR with multiple DIRS / fles in it ?02:51
shockrm -r dirname02:51
Cinduxer what that mean ?02:51
Cinduxremove r?02:51
shock-r stands for recursively02:52
Cinduxer02:52
shocku delete dirname with everything in it including dirname02:52
Cinduxso it wouldnt start out rmdir dirname02:52
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shockif you want to delete .themes with all themes in it (example) type "rm -r .themes"02:53
shockthats how i undersood your question02:53
makorepete: yes.. i'm planning on showing up to lwce02:54
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shockhm... i need to figure out how to set disk/traffic quotas02:55
shock:/02:55
repetemako: on your own or with work?02:55
randabisrm -rf foo02:55
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Cinduxis it illegal to run livecds at school ?02:56
Cinduxif it was connected to your school work02:56
Cindux..02:56
Cinduxlol02:56
shock?02:56
randabisdepends on school policy02:56
shockusually not02:56
Cinduxhm02:56
josh_anyone here play alot of online games?02:56
shockbut livecds might enable students to perform things they are not allowed to02:56
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shock<josh_> ... used to02:57
Cinduxin the shell do you have to include the entire path for DIR's ?02:57
GFXstyLERlol,  my ubuntu somehow mutated to debian, everything is changed02:57
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shockthe entire relative or total path @ <Cindux>02:57
liquid_hello I'm trying to setup the flash plug-in with firefox. It seems to be installed but why won't it work?02:58
josh_shock: well did you use a program called all seeing eye or pathfinder?02:58
liquid_Linux acronis 2.6.8.1-3-amd64-generic #1 Tue Oct 12 11:40:38 UTC 2004 x86_64 GNU/Linux02:58
shockno02:58
josh_shock: oh02:58
shockjosh_: jo02:58
shock;)02:58
josh_lol02:59
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Cinduxwoah02:59
Cinduxthe shell is cool02:59
shock;)02:59
Cinduxbut to much to learn >.<03:00
Cinduxand then shell scripting ><03:00
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shockhrhr03:00
shockthe shell is probably the most powerfull userinterface ever03:00
Cinduxany particular reason for it being the "shell"03:00
Cinduxex. Linus  = Linux because its his name03:01
Cindux??? = Shell because03:01
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hybridshell is the outerside03:01
hybridie nut in a shell03:01
hybridcli covered by a shell03:02
Cinduxthese stupid answers lol03:02
Cinduxi keep thinking its some very complex anser03:02
Cindux& it's always the obvious03:02
hybridlol03:02
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XappeGatex03:03
hybridcomputers arent hard03:03
hybrid0 off 1 on03:03
hybridall u need to kno03:03
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auraxhello03:03
EvanCarrollok poll who likes melazyboy.no-ip.com I'm not a web designer but I was able to come up with that, any problems with colors or format?03:03
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Linforcerdoes anyone here have experience with webcams in Linux?03:04
avsnlooking for a quick peace of advice here, how do I get the Live CD Ubuntu to print?03:04
Cinduxtried to the print command03:04
Cindux:d03:04
auraxis there a netscape package for ubuntu03:05
auraxor can i install the rpm for linux03:05
Cinduxprint filename03:05
auraxE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)03:05
auraxE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?03:05
auraxhrr03:05
avsni'll try those idees thx03:05
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LinforcerI guess that's a no03:06
Cinduxtheir are probably tons03:07
Cinduxconsidering their are several APPS made for web cam conferening03:07
Cinduxits just that 9003:07
auraxis there a way to speed up a little win32 apps under wine ?03:07
hybridaurax : mozilla and firefox ~= netscape03:07
Cindux90% of the people in this channel dont speak03:07
auraxhybrid yeah03:07
auraxi know03:07
hybridCindux : do u use much irc help channel03:07
Cinduxuhh nope03:08
hybridarux: then why do you want netscape?03:08
CinduxI only use irc for Ubuntu03:08
hybridCindux : u juss sit here waiting for ur specialty and shut up wen the oldies speek lol03:08
CinduxI've had to many questions about commands etc so ive just found a website witha list of basic commands etc03:08
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Cinduxif i have a question ill try to answer it myself03:08
hybridlol03:08
Cinduxbefore bothering you again :d03:08
hybridi dont mind03:09
Cinduxlol meh i do03:09
Cinduxif i were you id tell me to shut up03:09
Cinduxor give them a link & ignore them03:09
auraxi need netscape to test something03:09
auraxi have few issues with unicodes03:09
auraxin ubuntu03:09
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hybridi always ask questions so answering is like giving back03:09
Cinduxlol :03:09
hybridlol03:09
Cinduxthe only thing i know at all is web design03:10
Cinduxim teh uber genious03:10
hybridaurax : try apt-cache to search for it03:10
auraxi found it03:10
hybridlol03:10
bluefoxicywhy is open source software on some kind of sugar high03:10
auraxim getting the installer03:10
bluefoxicy<Liferea> 5 new items!03:10
hybridaurax : ok03:10
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auraxis there a way to speed up wine a little03:10
auraxi tried to run mirc and everything moving sooo slooow03:11
Cinduxheh03:11
hybridjuss use xchat or apt-get install bitchx03:11
Cinduxmirc's made by some guy with a funny name :p03:11
djkwhy are you running mic in wine03:11
djkmirc03:11
auraxjust for checking03:11
auraxi love mirc03:11
auraxlol03:11
CinduxKhaled *snickers*03:11
hybridlol oo ok03:12
djkinstall windows then03:12
surrounderhmmm can someone perhaps point me to a document oh how to use initrd? when I built a custom kernel it won't run because my initrd is not ok and when I try to boot it without it get even less far...03:12
auraxi got windows here03:12
auraxbut i wont install windows on this box03:12
hybridauraax: d00d u do alot of testing03:12
auraxfor mIRC03:12
Cindux:P03:12
auraxsure hybrid03:12
CinduxI only like windows 2k03:12
auraxits for w3rk03:12
flowersshow does xchat compare to bitchx anyways?03:12
hybridoo03:13
hybridflowerss: idk never used bitchx03:13
housetierflowerss, one is a gtk app, the other is not03:13
DonLI found out last night that my mileage really does vary. Screwed up an update to hoary so bad I had to reinstall Warty03:13
hybridbitchx is command line tho03:13
flowerssI'm running xchat right now but for a long time I used BitchX.  Used to run it under Windowmaker in the pre-gnome days.03:13
hybridlol03:14
flowerssDonL I hear you.  Every install of Hoary has been like that for me.03:14
hybridalot of ppl like it and the whole ircII or iscii w/e03:14
DonLI'm thinking mostly because of the Nvidia acceleration I had installed.03:14
housetierflowerss, just use the client you like best :)03:14
DonL...and the change to Xorg03:14
randabissurrounder,  mkinitrd initrdname.img /path/to/kernel/modules03:15
flowerssDonL I don't know why mine does it.  It just goes west every time I try to install it.  I've tried 2 different boxes and tried upgrading warty and installing fresh Hoary.  No luck.03:15
DonLflowerss, I love Warty so much, I'm happy here for as long as I can03:16
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flowerssDonL I've only been running Ubuntu for a week.  I used SuSE before that.  So far I like Ubuntu much better.03:16
flowerssI just want to be able to run Beagle.03:16
DonLI used Mandrake for years. I really like Ubuntu03:16
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farruinnwhat do you do when you get the error "I've already detected a gnome-panel running"?03:17
flowersson SuSE every time there was some kind of security update all my USB stuff would quit working until the next update came out a week later.03:17
farruinnI tried killall gnome-panel but get the same error03:17
DonLI find apt-get far superior to rpm03:18
flowerssfarruinn:  if you type ps awxx | grep gnome-panel, does it find any instances of the panel running?03:18
hybrid_flowerss: i am on bitchx now03:18
DonLJust my personal opinion, mind you03:18
HrdwrBoBhybrid_: try irssi03:18
flowerssDonL - That's what I like better too.03:18
HrdwrBoByou'll never look back :)03:18
goldfish_X03:19
goldfish_C L03:19
goldfish_CIGGY!03:19
farruinnirssi rocks my boat, but not gnome-panels at the moment =/03:19
hybrid_HrdwrBoB : what are the benifits od irssi03:19
flowerssI should figure out how to do irc in emacs.  It does everything else.03:19
HrdwrBoBhybrid_: it's about 100x less annoying03:19
farruinnflowerss: you mean emacsOS? ;)03:20
HrdwrBoBie: new windows for messages, handles multiple networks and disconnections gracefully03:20
hybrid_ok i am gonna log off then try it03:20
hybrid_brb03:20
farruinnI wish the alt+arrow would work for switching windows I just get 3C or 3D03:20
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flowerssfarruinn Exactly!03:20
tritiumfarruinn, in xchat?  Alt-#03:20
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tritiumto move between tabs03:21
Cinduxjerks03:21
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Cinduxdon;t you hate it when you post threads on a forum03:21
Cinduxand see 101 views, 0 posts03:21
farruinntritium: irssi03:21
flowerssthat sucks Cindux03:21
Cinduxlol03:21
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Cinduxmeh03:22
hybridback03:22
tritiumCindux, that doesn't make them jerks.  Maybe nobody had the answer.03:22
Cinduxlies03:22
farruinnCindux: what's the thread? I'll reply if it makes you feel better =)03:22
Cinduxit's an obvious question :D03:22
flowerssIt's worse when you post in a forum and the only replies are get-rich-quick scheme spams.03:22
mpqI have a problem03:22
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CinduxI simpy asked what performance difference i would see03:22
DonLCindux, maybe it was the question03:22
mpqI tried to install but I don't know anything about partitioning03:22
Cinduxestimated on a scale of 1-1003:22
Cinduxor in %03:22
Cinduxnuh uh03:22
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Cinduxhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1461303:22
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CinduxVery straight forward & clear03:22
Cinduxprovided details as well03:22
farruinnok now you're just whining ;)03:23
farruinnmpq: what do you need to know?03:23
n0sferatuhey there, can someone tell me how can i share internet with ubuntu ?03:23
mpqhow to do it without deleting everything on the computer03:23
Cindux* wines *03:23
tritiumCindux, maybe 0% of the people who read your thread had your hardware.03:23
hybridi like irssi it is strate forward03:23
Cinduxlol03:23
Cinduxlies03:23
DonLThe difference, Cindux, would be this much03:24
Cinduxoh ><03:25
Cinduxeveryone has to pick on the little guy03:25
Cinduxjust cuz i memorized the shell in 2.3 days03:25
Cinduxcough cough03:25
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mpqhow do I partition without deleting everything on the hard drive?03:25
Cindux?03:26
flowerssthe shell is easy to memorize:   user@pc:~ $03:26
CinduxAll partitioning does is devide your harddrive into seperate sections03:26
flowerssmpq you need something like Partition Magic03:26
Cinduxit doesnt delete anything to partition03:26
mpqthat costs a lot of money03:26
flowerssif you have existing partitions and no room for new ones.03:26
mpqI thought linux was supposed to be free03:26
hybridis there any benifits of sudo over the root terminal03:26
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Cinduxoh03:26
hybrid?03:27
zenwhenmpq, download knoppix and use qtparted to resize your window partition03:27
zenwhenit is free03:27
flowerssmpq I don't know if any linux tools can resize partitions to make room for you.03:27
tritiumqtparted doesn't always work that well03:27
mpqthe ubuntu installer has a partitioner03:27
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mpqbut I don't understand it03:27
zenwhenmpq, qtparted will do the job and do it well03:27
mpqcan I get it without having to download yet another iso?03:27
flowerssmpq do you have any blank space on your drive without partions on it?03:27
mpqyes03:27
mpqI don't have any partitions yet03:28
zenwhenis the dirve blank?03:28
zenwhendrive*03:28
mpqwhy would it be?03:28
zenwhenthen you have a partition03:28
DonLmaybe one big one03:28
zenwhenyes03:28
mpqI have a 60 GB drive03:28
hybridu gotta have a partion to have aan os03:28
mpqand I wanted to split it into two 30 GB partitions03:28
Cinduxmpq03:29
mpqbut I don't know how to do that in the ubuntu installer03:29
Cinduxtheirs no such thing as a 60gb drive03:29
Cinduxbecause you wont have 60gb03:29
mpqthen what's on my computer?03:29
zenwhendownload knoppix and use qtparted to resize. it is your only free option that you will be able to easily do.03:29
flowerssmpq does it already have windows or something on it?03:29
Cinduxit's something like03:29
Cindux54.76gb03:29
mpqyes03:29
tritiumtheirs?03:29
zenwhenCindux, why tell him that03:29
flowerssmpq is there more than 30 GB of free space?03:29
mpqthat just seems like splitting hairs03:29
zenwhenits rather asinine03:29
mpqyes03:29
Cinduxhe wanted 2 30gb partitions03:29
Cindux:P03:29
mpqyou're splitting hairs03:29
n0sferatuhey how can i share my internet connection, i have the internet access in eth0 and my lan is in eth103:30
flowerssthen your best bet is to use that knoppix tool like somebody else suggested03:30
n0sferatuwhat can i do?03:30
liquid_hello I'm trying to setup the flash plug-in with firefox. It seems to be installed but why won't it work?03:30
liquid_Linux acronis 2.6.8.1-3-amd64-generic #1 Tue Oct 12 11:40:38 UTC 2004 x86_64 GNU/Linux03:30
mpqcan I get it without having to download yet ANOTHER 600mb iso?03:30
tritiumhttp://www.sysresccd.org/ is even better than knoppix03:30
LinforcerBy now anyone here who has experience with using webcams in Linux?03:30
farruinnn0sferatu: I don't know the details, but google nat03:31
hybridmpq: try buying a pressed cd for about 5$03:31
DonLI like the Warty live disk better than knoppix03:31
Cinduxare the Ubuntu CD's really free ?03:32
Cinduxi dont want it showing up at my door witha $ charge lol03:32
surrounderthanks randabis!03:33
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hybridDonL: it is nice03:33
tritiumDonL, yes, but it doesn't have partitioning tool.  That's why we're not recommending it.03:33
hybridmpq : try mandrake it isextremely simple03:33
DonLI know it's knoppix based, but I prefer gnome03:33
mpqthis seems overcomplicated03:33
DonLOh. sorry. Didn't know about the partitioning tool03:33
mpqall I want to do is split the disk in half so I can install ubuntu03:33
mpqand now I've been told to use two different distros03:33
farruinnmpq: the problem is you can't just split it while keeping your data03:33
farruinnyou have to resize the partition03:33
pepsi__whered the little wireless applet go?03:33
pepsi__in hoary?03:33
hybridmpq : what arectecture are u on03:33
mpqhuh?03:33
DonLfarruinn, do you have windows on it now?03:33
hybridCINDUX : YEA03:33
mpqyes03:33
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mpqthat wasn't for me03:33
farruinnDonL: what?03:33
geppyIf you're sshing into a server, what's a good way to tell what distro it's running?03:34
DonLIs windows installed on your hard drive now?03:34
tritiumgeppy, try uname -r03:34
tritiumor -a03:34
mpqI think it's NTFS if that's what you're asking03:34
hybridgeppy try nmap -O server ip03:34
tritiumntfs resizing is sort of risky03:34
farruinnDonL: no, I have a mac03:35
geppyuname just gives you kernel, etc03:35
geppyI'll try nmap03:35
DonLAhh. So you have to use a ppc version of ubuntu03:35
mpqso then there's no way to do it without possibly deleting everything on my computer?03:35
hybridubuntu ppc rules03:35
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DonLhybrid, I'm out of my league here03:35
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tritiumgeppy, he doesn't need to install nmap just for that, when uname will do the job03:36
eatmyshorI am here to let you know of a new site that just launched.  www.FreeStuffNation.com . get all kinds of free stuff (free ipods/free minimacs/free lcd monitors).03:36
eatmyshorwww.freestuffnation.com03:36
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hybridDonL ok lol03:36
farruinnmpq: unfortunately that's right03:36
mpqthis is why I don't want to use windows03:36
geppytritium:  uname doesn't give you the distribution03:36
mpqas if I didn't hate my computer enough already...03:36
tritiummpq, any chance you can just delete windows.  possibly reinstall?03:36
mpqprobably not03:37
tritiumgeppy, he wants to know OS03:37
tritiumnot distro03:37
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tritiumgeppy, my mistake03:37
geppytritium:  sorry, I was talking about what I was looking for;  I was looking for a way to find the distribution03:37
hybridmpq yea tritium is rite back up important stuff then use a cd03:37
geppytritium:  =)03:37
randabiscat /etc/lsb-release03:37
mpq"back up important stuff"?03:38
tritiumgeppy, :) sorry03:38
Faustussay guys is helix ported in hoarty?03:38
geppytritium:  haha.. no worries. =)03:38
mpqthis clearly isn't worth it03:38
mpqI thought this would be simple03:38
tritiummpq, Windows makes it difficult :(03:38
farruinnmpq: unfortunately there is _no_ simply solution to what you're looking for03:38
mpqso I can't do anything?03:39
mpqwhy did I bother trying to use linux in the first place?03:39
tritiummpq, you can do what we suggested03:39
randabishelix is in hoary03:39
hybridu can if u r ^^4|) 3133703:39
mpqwhich was back up everything and delete windows?03:39
hybridlol03:39
tritiummpq, or use a partioning tool03:39
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randabiswhat did you do to windows? lol03:39
`shaneanyone know how to type non-Roman letters such as Latvian diacritics in Linux?03:39
geppyshane;  GNOME?  Just change the keyboard map.03:40
`shanein OO.org for example03:40
nomasteryodarandabis, ain't using windows enough?03:40
`shaneok thanks03:40
nomasteryoda=)03:40
randabisI don't use windows at all :p03:40
geppytritium:  How long does nmap take?  It's still running.03:40
flowersswhen is hoary supposed to be done anyways?03:40
Cindux:P03:40
Cinduxtomorrows my day of uber laziness03:40
randabisApril 200503:40
geppyflowerss: April03:40
hybridgeppy : depense03:40
tritiumgeppy, I don't have it installed.  Don't know...03:40
Cinduxwatching the sw trilogy03:40
Cinduxstraight through03:40
geppytritium:  Alright, thanks.03:40
jdubflowerss: www.ubuntu.com/wiki/HoaryReleaseSchedule03:40
DonLThis has been a windows free zone for about three years03:40
randabismpq use BootItNG03:41
jdubflowerss: preview in march, final in april03:41
randabison a floppy disk03:41
randabisyou can resize ntfs with that03:41
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Cinduxisnt it bootit ng ?03:41
geppytritium:  Are there any other ways to determine the distro?  nmap couldn't figure it out.03:41
randabishttp://www.terabyteunlimited.com/downloads/bootitng.zip03:41
randabisgeppy03:42
tritiumgeppy, snoop around in /etc since you can ssh into the machine03:42
randabiscat /etc/lsb-release03:42
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randabistry that03:42
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tritiumor possibly /etc/issue03:42
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randabisyeah03:42
geppytritium:  Alright.  I'm not the one who is doing the SSHing, but I'll tell him to. =)03:43
tritiumokay03:43
jay_hey, question: I'm running ubuntu on an old p2 266 mhz -- and it's kinda slow. Someone previously mentioned this gui that runs REALLY fast - anyone know what it is?03:43
hybridmatchbox03:44
DonLWell, I should be off to continue re-installing Warty after the big crash03:44
randabisjay_, you could try fluxbox03:44
hybridlol03:44
farruinnflux rules03:44
tritiumjay_, or xfce, perhaps03:44
flowerssgeppy what does it say when you go uname -a03:44
jay_xfce -- thats what I heard!03:44
mpqI thought this would be simple...03:44
tritiumDonL, ouch.  What happened?03:44
jay_i'll check em both - thanks!03:44
randabisflowerss, that shows kernel, not distro03:44
tritiummpq, it's not too bad.  We're here to help.03:44
DonLtritium, failed upgrade to hoary03:44
randabismpq03:44
randabistry this03:44
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flowerssrandabis well if you do it on BSD it shows which bsd you are using.03:45
tritiumDonL, how so?03:45
randabishttp://www.terabyteunlimited.com/downloads/bootitng.zip03:45
randabisflowerss, but this isn't BSD :p03:45
hybridDonL : what are you installing it off03:45
geppyflowers: try it yourself;  it just tells you username, time, arch, and kernel03:45
DonLI think the accelerated version of Nvidia I had installed screwed some stuff up03:45
randabismpq put the contents of that zip file onto a floppy disk03:45
scorpixis it possible to play a wav file when xdm starts?03:45
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randabisand boot the floppy03:45
DonLhybrid, I did the upgrade from the internet03:45
mpqmy computer doesn't have a floppy drive03:45
tritiumDonL, doesn't sound too hard to figure out.03:45
tritiumDonL, what happened?03:45
mpqand that's not my problem anyway03:45
hybridDonL oo ok03:46
mpqI figured out the booting problem03:46
hybridi c03:46
hybridand it crashed woarty?03:46
DonLI did everything I read, but it booted with mega errors, and no X03:46
randabismpq you wanted to resize ntfs? maybe I didn't get all that correctly03:46
mpqyeah03:46
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tritiummpq, what's wrong with trying a bootable CD with qtparted?03:46
mpqso I could make a partition for linux03:46
hybridDonL : ouch03:46
flowerssgeppy well, I know if it's a SuSE or NLD distro there will be a file in /etc that is calles SuSE.config or something like that.03:46
tritiummpq, that's not very difficult to try03:46
randabismpq well that program will allow you to resize an ntfs partition03:46
tritiumDonL, did you "dist-upgrade"03:46
tritium?03:46
DonLI was used to this from Mandrake, but didn't like it, so after trying to fix it and getting into a nose dive, I dumped and started again03:47
mpqI was told that resizing a NTFS partition could delete everything on the hard drive03:47
randabisbootitng will resize it safely03:47
DonLtritium , yes. dist-upgrade03:47
farruinnmpq: with qtparted03:47
hybridtritium : will editing the sources.list then apt-get update upgraade it all?03:47
randabisyou could create a bootable cd with bootitng I believe03:47
mpqcan I get that without having to download a 700MB iso?03:47
hybridor will i need to run dist-upgrade03:47
randabismpq bootitng is very small03:48
tritiumhybrid, not all of it, but it's safer03:48
mpqI don't have a floppy drive03:48
hybridtritum : ok03:48
mpqyou said I had to but bootitng on a floppy disk03:48
farruinnmpq: you could probably burn it to a cd I'd imagine03:48
tritiumhybrid, dist-upgrade can remove packages when dependencies aren't met03:48
mpqI already need the cd for the ubuntu installer03:48
hybridtritium : o i c03:48
DonLOh! Someone here helped me after my first install with an unresponsive floppy drive.03:48
Cinduxhm03:49
DonLI know you have to make it vfat, but don't know how03:49
Cinduxi think the boot order on my compaq is screwed up in the BIOS03:49
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randabismpq you can burn the contents of the zip file to a cd and make it a bootable cd03:49
tritiummpq, http://www.sysresccd.org/ is only around 100 MB03:49
mpqthis isn't working03:50
Cinduxhm time to go read a long linux newb pdf :P03:50
Cinduxb4 i do03:50
Cinduxjust one question03:50
mpqI haven't installed linux on my computer yet03:50
mpqbecause I can't partition03:50
Cinduxafter removing a file in the "command line" on ubuntu03:50
Cinduxdoes it go to the trash03:50
nomasteryodampq, if you don't mind downloading something smaller, suse has a boot image of about 25mb ... for CD03:50
nomasteryodaboot up and do ftp install03:50
farruinnCindux: no, it's gone forever03:50
Cinduxexcelente :P03:50
Cinduxk thanks03:50
Cinduxgonna read :d03:50
randabisI gave you an option mpq, it's up to you to take it03:50
flowerssin Warty, when I browse to a windows share using the Network icon, and double click a windows box, it doesn't prompt me for a login ID or password, it just says You do not have the permissions to view the contents...03:50
mpqI don't understand03:50
flowerssHow do I get a windows box to prompt for login credentials?03:51
hybridCindux : Unix is very powerful thats why you dont login as root03:51
tritiumDonL, use dist-upgrade with caution if you try upgrading to Hoary again.03:51
nomasteryodaflowerss, download Xteq03:51
nomasteryodaif you mean the Ctrlaltdel box03:51
flowerssnomasteryoda, what's Xteq?03:51
randabismpq download bootitng, unzip it, burn the contents of the zip file to a cd, and make the cd bootable03:51
DonLtritium, yes, but that's what I read to do in more than one place03:51
nomasteryodafree registry tweaker for winders03:51
mpqI don't know how to make a cd bootable03:51
randabiswhat burning app do you use?03:52
nomasteryodampq, when you burn it it will be03:52
mpqI don't know03:52
randabis...03:52
hybridwhats the argument to start a c++ project in gcc?03:52
mpqit wasn't the first four times I tried to download a boot cd03:52
nomasteryodaas long as the iso is made that way03:52
Faustusdoes anyone know if deb-src http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net/debian woody main is kept up to date?  Can I use with ubuntu?03:52
mpqit's not03:52
DonLtritium,  I do appreciate your help. One must be careful03:52
mpqis there a partitioner than can be used in windows?03:52
randabispartition magic03:53
mpqso I can install linux?03:53
randabisit's not free though03:53
nomasteryodanot in windows03:53
nomasteryodampq, Ultimate Boot CD has one on it03:53
mpqso my only solution is to buy a $70 program just to use something that was supposed to be free?03:53
nomasteryodaand is free03:53
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DonLAnyone know how to get a floppy going then? It has to understand MS fat03:53
tritiumDonL, what do you mean?  mount it?03:53
hybridmpq : do u kno what free means03:54
DonLYup. Wont' even see it03:54
randabismpq try the ultimate boot cd nomasteryoda suggested03:54
tritiummpq, no, that's not your only solution.  We've laid out others for you.03:54
randabisI didn't realize it had a partitioning software included03:54
mpqand I didn't understand any of them03:54
hybridDonL : eww fun03:54
hybridlol03:54
tritiumDonL, what did you try?03:54
flowersshow the heck do you access windows shares in Nautilus?03:54
mpqor half of them involved backing up everything and reinstalling windows03:54
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randabisuh, only ONE of them did actually03:55
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hybridmpq : go to shipit.ubuntu.com and then get the live cd03:55
DonLWell, I have some saved files, on floppies, formatted in MS format03:55
nomasteryodampq, it is a safer way to go ...03:55
mpqI have the live cd03:55
nomasteryodabacking things up03:55
mpqI have way too much stuff to back up everything03:55
nomasteryodaok03:55
hybridmpq : then use it03:55
randabistry the ultimate boot cd03:55
DonLSomeone here told me a quick way of getting Ubuntu to recognize and mount them, then my system crashed and I forget how to redo that03:55
hybridwhut is ur problem03:55
nomasteryodado you have an extra drive?03:55
tritiummpq, you want to backup, even if you're just resizing, to be safe03:55
hybridlol03:56
mpqif I had an extra drive this wouldn't be a problem03:56
nomasteryodatritium, i echo your comments03:56
nomasteryodaok03:56
tritiumnomasteryoda, :)03:56
randabismaybe you should just use the livecd for a while a get a feel for linux. :/03:56
tritiumDonL, command line?  mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /media/floppy03:56
hybridmpq : use the live cd or get an extra hdd and install ubuntu on it03:56
nomasteryodampq, you risk losing all your data anytime you resize the partition... or at least making it a pain to get back03:56
mpqI can't get an extra hdd03:56
mpqI'm on a laptop03:57
hybridbest 2 options03:57
nomasteryodampq, sure you can03:57
mpqnot easily03:57
DonLtritium, is that for one go, or will it change the system03:57
mpqit seems the only solutions involve spending a lot of money I don't have03:57
hybridmpq : external hdd03:57
nomasteryodayou can get a 6gb for small change03:57
mpqmaybe to you03:57
nomasteryodaor yes, like hybrid said external03:57
tritiumDonL, it doesn't change anything permanently03:57
nomasteryodampq, find a friend with an external03:57
mpqI don't have a friend03:58
randabisagain, I suggest the ultimate boot cd since I was informed it now includes partitioning software03:58
DonLtritium, thanks for that. I'll write that down.03:58
nomasteryodaor for that matter, network the data to another system03:58
tritiummpq, we're here, and we're trying to help03:58
mpqI don't know anyone in real life that knows anything about computers03:58
hybriddo you go to work?03:58
hybriddo they have computers?03:58
mpqno03:58
randabishave you used the livecd at all?03:58
mpqyeah03:59
randabisok03:59
mpqand I was confused as hell03:59
tritiummpq, do you have a CD burner?  You could burn your data to CD.03:59
hybridwtf?03:59
mpqI don't have that many cds03:59
tritiummpq, can you buy a few?03:59
randabisso you were confused with even the livecd03:59
hybridrofl03:59
randabiswhat makes you think you are going to be any less confused with installing the full distro?03:59
nomasteryodampq, wherebouts do you live?03:59
DonLThanks again for the help folks. Must go for now.03:59
mpqI couldn't figure out how to do something03:59
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nomasteryodaon an island?03:59
mpqI asked here and someone said it would be easier to install it04:00
hybridlol04:00
mpqclearly it's not04:00
tritiummpq, what did you want to do?04:00
hybridman i thot i was a newbie04:00
mpqset up a wireless network card in linux04:00
nomasteryodahybrid, LOL04:00
randabisodds are you're going to be opening up a can of worms you aren't ready for04:00
tritiummpq, the LiveCD supports that.  What kind?04:00
nomasteryodampq, that is way up there on the list... very many versions of card chips04:01
mpqI'm going to try rebooting with the live cd04:01
hybridWOW04:01
randabisbefore you do, what wireless card do you use?04:01
nomasteryodagood04:01
mpqthis might be easier if I was actually on linux04:01
nomasteryodampq, what card>04:01
hybridnomasteryoda : would that work? rebooting with a live cd?04:02
mpqI don't know how to find out04:02
nomasteryodaer, might work04:02
tritiummpq, can you look at the label?04:02
tritiumand see the manufacturer?04:02
mpqit's in the computer04:02
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farruinnperhaps it's on the manufacturer's website04:02
nomasteryodampq, you need to find out04:02
hybridmpq : i did months of research b4 i installed linux04:02
calamarihi04:02
nomasteryodasimple way once you get bootable up04:02
tritiummpq, the Device Manager doesn't say anything?04:02
nomasteryodatritium, it will but what about the chipset?04:03
tritiumnomasteryoda, it's a start04:03
nomasteryodatrue04:03
tritiumbut you're right04:03
mpqit's broadcom04:03
nomasteryodaack04:03
nomasteryodayou will need the Ndiswrapper04:03
hybridnot my feild04:03
nomasteryodaand the windows driver04:03
randabisbroadcom requires ndiswrapper04:04
nomasteryodafor that specific model04:04
randabisyep04:04
nomasteryodai am using one here04:04
nomasteryodabcm chipset04:04
randabisfor that I think you WILL need a native linux on your system and not a live cd04:04
tritiumI'm going to drink some beer.04:04
hybridlol04:04
tritiumgood luck mpq04:04
hybridu deserve it04:04
nomasteryodatritium, lol04:04
nomasteryodai'll have a soda04:04
tritium:) see you all later04:04
hybridbye man04:04
mpqI think I'm going to stick with the wired connection until I figure out how to install it04:04
hybridthnx for the help04:04
tritiumhybrid, see you around04:05
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nomasteryodampq, Knoppix has ndiswrapper on it04:05
hybridiight man04:05
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nomasteryoda3.7 version that is04:05
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Xappehmm, nice. the dc++ port for linux is getting better and better...04:05
odysseyubuntu only detects my radeon 7000 agp to be using 1x when it should be using 4x. Is there a way to change this?04:05
mpqso what, ubuntu won't work for me?04:05
hybridlol04:05
nomasteryoda you just download and extract the contents to a folder you can access while in knoppix or do the HD install04:05
hybridnope none of us use it this is all our lil rpg04:06
nomasteryodampq, the latest distro might04:06
nomasteryodai don't know about hat04:06
nomasteryodathat04:06
hybridhey i edited my sources.list and did apt-get upgrade is there anything else i need to do to get hoary?04:07
nomasteryodahybrid, did it all take?04:08
nomasteryodano errors?04:08
hybridnomasteryoda : yup04:08
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hybridnone04:09
nomasteryodaso you have not rebooted yet?04:09
hybridno04:09
hybriddo i need to04:09
hybrid?04:09
darmouhybrid yes04:09
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nomasteryodahoary has different kernel, xorg04:09
nomasteryodaetc04:09
hybridaight brb04:09
nomasteryodagood luck04:09
hybridthnx04:09
nomasteryoda=)04:09
Xappehybrid,  you should do an apt-get dist-upgrade04:10
Xappedamn04:10
nomasteryodaer, too late04:10
nomasteryodahe'll be back soon04:10
darmoumabey;)04:10
nomasteryoda=_)04:10
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nomasteryodampq, in ubuntu?04:11
mpqyeah04:12
nomasteryodacool04:12
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mpqI'm using the live cd04:12
nomasteryodaopen a terminal04:12
mpqok04:12
nomasteryodaand type uname -a04:12
nomasteryodaso we know what version04:12
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mpqLinux ubuntu 2.6.7 #2 Mon Oct 18 00:31:18 CEST 2004 i686 GNU/Linux04:13
akurashyi need help installing a eggdrop can someone help me =/04:13
nomasteryodaok, so that would be warty04:13
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nomasteryodampq, find out exactly what chipset you have04:14
hybridall good here04:14
nomasteryodafor the wireless04:14
mpqhow do I do that?04:14
nomasteryodahybrid, you missed a step04:14
Rotundanyone here heard about what fluendo is going to charge for the fluendo plugins?04:14
hybridwut?04:14
Rotundor know if Ubuntu will work with Fluendo in Hoary04:15
nomasteryodaXappe said "hybrid,  you should do an apt-get dist-upgrade"04:15
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hybridoo ok04:15
ChazzleHello?04:15
nomasteryodampq, open terminal04:15
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nomasteryodatype04:15
ChazzleI was on earlier and I was working on setting up Ubuntu.04:15
nomasteryodasudo lspci04:15
nomasteryodalook for bcm04:16
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nomasteryodalook at version04:16
nomasteryodawrite it down04:16
geppyI've found a .mov that kills gxine;  should I bugzilla it?04:16
nomasteryodagoogle for the windows driver04:16
ChazzleI have my BIOS set to CDROM...04:16
mpqforget it04:16
nomasteryodalol04:16
mpqmy sister is being an ass04:16
mpqand I have to disconnect04:16
hybridXappe : it told me to run apt-get update04:16
nomasteryodalol04:16
nomasteryodalol04:16
nomasteryodalol04:16
geppyI've found a .mov that kills gxine;  what should I do with it/04:17
nomasteryodahybrid, check the version04:17
nomasteryodauname -a04:17
ChazzleWhat do I need to do now.04:17
Xappehybrid, what told you?04:17
hybridLinux Hybrid 2.6.8.1-3-powerpc #1 Thu Nov 18 13:59:38 UTC 2004 ppc GNU/Linux04:17
nomasteryodaXappe, i gave him the command you told him before he rebooted04:17
nomasteryodaer, warty right?04:18
Xappehybrid, the procedure is... apt-get update and then apt-get dist-upgrade04:18
hybridXappe : i apt-get dist-upgrade then it said to fix these errors run apt-get update04:18
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hybridok04:18
Chazzlenomasteryoda, are you asking me if I have Warty?04:18
hybridthanx you two04:19
nomasteryodanp04:19
nomasteryodaChazzle, sure why not04:19
ChazzleI am a NOOB04:19
Chazzlesorry.04:19
ChazzleTrying to work this out.04:19
nomasteryodanot like some people =)04:19
Chazzle;)04:19
hybridlol04:19
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nomasteryodadid you get the bootable or the install cd04:19
nomasteryodampq, got rid of that arse?04:19
mpqno04:19
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hybridlol04:20
ChazzleI downloaded the iso from the sight and burned it to disk.04:20
mpqwish I could04:20
hybridlo04:20
hybridlol04:20
mpqI can't use linux now04:20
nomasteryodampq, you can download qemu04:20
steve_why mpq04:20
hybridor cygwin04:20
mpqthe POS router apparently won't let two people use wired connections at the same time04:20
nomasteryodaand some of the images and try distros that way04:20
nomasteryodawhile in windows04:20
hybridnot the best but hey04:20
mpqand I can't use the wireless card in linux04:20
nomasteryodaqemu is nice04:21
nomasteryodaand free04:21
nomasteryodaand they even have an image of ubuntu warty to download an use04:21
nomasteryodafrom in winders04:21
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nomasteryodaa good way to "check it out"04:21
Xenguynomasteryoda: do you mean run qemu in linux or winders?04:22
Levanderanyone else here programming python on warty?  can't get PYTHONPATH to work correctly, wondering if there's a trick?04:22
nomasteryodaXenguy, funny04:22
nomasteryodai do it both ways04:22
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nomasteryodabut yes, for mpq in windows04:23
hybridlol04:23
nomasteryodalol04:23
mpqwhat does qemu do?04:23
ChazzleQuickly, how can I start the CD when I reboot?04:23
nomasteryodait is a virtual machine04:23
Xenguynomasteryoda: qemu runs on winders? Hrm04:23
mpqwhat is that?04:23
hybridfake linux04:23
nomasteryodaa way of running another OS while in another OS04:23
nomasteryodapretty fast with today's computers04:24
hybridmpq : ever heard of google or clusty?04:24
nomasteryodaLOL04:24
hybridor any search engine?04:24
nomasteryodaLOLROTF04:24
rcliiichazzle: if you have the bios set to boot from the cd you just have to put the cd in and reboot...04:24
hybridqemu is the free (cheap no mullah ) version of VM04:24
mpqI can't run linux now04:24
nomasteryodampq has sister breathing down back... give him a break..04:24
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Chazzlemaybe I don't have this set up right.04:24
mpqI can't get on the internet while I'm in linux04:25
mpqthat's the problem04:25
nomasteryodampq, with an install distro you can04:25
hybridu got ethrnet?04:25
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Chazzleto set bios, I hold down f2 and then change the settings right?04:25
nomasteryodai'm on suse here and using bcm chipset wifi card04:25
mpqI can't install right now04:25
rcliiichassle: that sounds right04:25
nomasteryodaok04:25
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hybridChzzle yea04:25
hybrid**chazzle04:25
ChazzleI will do this again...04:25
nomasteryodampq, that is why i suggested qemu04:25
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nomasteryodagoogle for it man04:25
Dreamer3ok04:26
Dreamer3hmmm04:26
ChazzleI think I might have a bad version of the burn.04:26
hybridthe url is http://google.org04:26
Dreamer3how am i supposed to move the home partition if i can only log in as users...?04:26
nomasteryodaChazzle, happens04:26
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Dreamer3(And not root)?04:26
Chazzleyup.04:26
Chazzlethx04:26
IxanHi! I'm getting strange behaviour from evolution on hoary amd64, it terminates with sigfpe04:26
nomasteryodadreamer, you have to go to single user mode04:26
mpqI am so confused04:26
mpqwhy did I think I could do this?04:26
Dreamer3nomasteryoda: or sudo passwd root? :)04:26
nomasteryodaDreamer, best to go to single user04:27
nomasteryodainit 104:27
niptachi guys can somebody help? my volume control just decided to stop working and I get error Sorry, no mixer elements and/or devices found04:27
Dreamer3nomasteryoda: thanks04:27
Xenguympq: getting good support/answers depends on you being very specific in your speech04:27
Dreamer3hmmmmmm04:27
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mpqI don't even know my problems04:27
mpqhow can I be specific?04:27
nomasteryodaor Dreamer... init 304:27
Dreamer3nomasteryoda: which? :)04:27
nomasteryodaat the least04:27
niptacsome multimedia applications also won't load up04:27
nomasteryodainit 3 will allow netowrk to function04:28
mpqI can't run linux because I wouldn't be able to connect04:28
Dreamer3nomasteryoda: but it will let me log in at root (init 3)?04:28
mpqI can't set up the wireless card in linux without installing it04:28
Xenguympq: you just need to describe what you are doing, and what the errors/symptoms are, with some level of completeness and detail -- slap-dash comments will not go very far in this medium04:28
mpqI can't install it without potentially deleting everything on my computer04:28
hybridnope it is impossible to connect to the internet with the os that built it.04:28
niptacbut I still get sound04:28
hybridmpq if we man newbie we will find u04:28
nomasteryodaDreamer3, i think so, but not an expert on ubuntu04:28
nomasteryodahybrid, LOL04:28
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nomasteryodaI have ubuntu, but am using suse mostly04:29
farruinnmpq: do you have a wired connection?04:29
Xenguympq: are you using the 'Live CD', or ...?04:29
mpqI can't use more than one wired connection at the same time04:29
nomasteryodafarruinn, he does04:29
hybridmpq : do you have a connection04:29
mpqI'm on wireless right now04:29
mpqbut I can't use the wireless card while in linux04:30
nomasteryodampq, ah ic04:30
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nomasteryodasister would die without the connection04:30
nomasteryodahehe04:30
farruinnso you don't have a wired connection available?04:30
mpqnot right now04:30
mpqyou can blame linksys for that04:30
farruinngot it04:30
mpqfour ethernet ports and you can't use more than one at the same time04:30
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nomasteryodampq, WTF04:31
farruinnprobably not linksys's problem, probably  your isp making sure you don't get more than your money's worth =)04:31
nomasteryodai use all mine04:31
mpqlinksys is a piece of shit04:31
nomasteryodai have a WRT54g04:31
nomasteryodaworks great04:31
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hybridlinksys is superior04:31
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mpqthen why does my wireless connection periodically crap out for no reason?04:31
steve_does anyone know of a good program to copy dvds04:31
hybrid<--- on a wan with an xp wireless cpu ubuntu ppc wireless notebook04:31
hybridwhat kinda fone do u have04:32
hybriddsl filter?04:32
hybridwall thickness?04:32
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hybridpaint additives?04:32
hybrid...04:32
billytwowilly http://supermanisadick.com/dick/20.html best comic book cover ever.04:32
mpqI'm on cable04:32
mpqsix feet from the router right now04:32
nomasteryodampq, you need to upgrade the wrt54g firmware04:32
nomasteryodabut that is for later04:33
mpqI don't know what that is04:33
nomasteryodaup the power to max04:33
hybridcable dsl satelite t1 t3 == broadband04:33
nomasteryodai know04:33
nomasteryodai am sitting on my couch in another room04:33
nomasteryodaand wireless04:33
nomasteryodathru brick wall04:33
hybridnomasteryoda : i hope wireless if u r on the couch04:33
nomasteryoda16ft away04:33
nomasteryodalol04:33
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nomasteryodalaptop, on batteries even =)04:34
kakaltohybrid: I sometimes drag my computer to near my couch :)04:34
benhi04:34
hybridroflmao04:34
steve_does anyone know of a good program to copy dvds04:34
mpqthe problem isn't with the wireless right now04:34
kakaltohybrid, it's very comfortable04:34
hybridkakalto : hope it is a fraag box04:34
hybridlol04:34
kakaltofraag?04:34
hybridi meant frag04:34
mpqI can't use the wired connection because it doesn't work with multiple computers at the same time for some reason04:34
mpqand the wireless connection doesn't work while I'm in linux04:34
kakaltoI have my living room wired with a network port04:35
nomasteryodakakalto, me too04:35
hybrid`raises eyebrow...again`04:35
nomasteryodabut my wirelss is faster04:35
kakaltoso I can surf & everything on my couch'04:35
nomasteryodahybrid, lol04:35
nomasteryodampq,04:35
kakaltoso long as I drag my box down there04:35
nomasteryodafind out what chipset is04:35
mpqI don't know how to04:35
kakaltoI don't have a laptop :(04:36
nomasteryodaer, windows control panel04:36
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mchangre all04:36
nomasteryodaor reboot into linux04:36
nomasteryodafor a min04:36
hybridkakalto : stealitback.com04:36
nomasteryodathen open terminal04:36
nomasteryodaand type "lspci"04:36
mchanganyone else have some perl5.8 issues?04:36
nomasteryodanot comments04:36
nomasteryodanote comments04:36
nomasteryodalook for bcm04:36
nomasteryodawrite it down04:36
hybridthat means rite them down on PAPER04:36
hybriddont copy n paste04:36
nomasteryodaget driver and ndiswrapper04:37
nomasteryodalol04:37
nomasteryodayes04:37
benhi everyone...Can out-of-the-box ubuntu system mount an NTFS partition....I'm having dificulties..04:37
nomasteryodapaper, remember that stuff04:37
hybridlol04:37
nomasteryodaben, it should in R mode04:37
hybridben: prolly but idk04:37
nomasteryodanot write04:37
mpqI was told that the wireless wouldn't work without installing linux on the hard drive04:37
benthanks nomasteryoda, but what is R mode?04:37
farruinnmpq: he means the livecd I think04:37
nomasteryodaread only ... sry04:37
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nomasteryodafarruinn, thks04:38
nomasteryodayes04:38
mpqI knew that04:38
nomasteryodalive cd to evaluate the system04:38
bensure I don't mind that it would be read mode..but I'm having trouble doing even that...04:38
hybridben : i think you can view the files but like nomasteryoda said it wont be w or x04:38
nomasteryodathen go back to windows and look for what you need04:38
hybridmount -a ben04:38
kakaltomust.... stealitback.com ....04:38
mpq...forget it04:38
mpqthere is no way I can do this now04:38
nomasteryodalol04:39
nomasteryodasome noobs04:39
hybridis he gone?04:39
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nomasteryodafinally04:39
hybridman he made me feel good04:39
nomasteryodalol04:39
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Xappeben: http://ubuntuguide.org/#automountntfs04:39
nomasteryodalike a god04:39
hybridi wz like i aint hopeless after all04:39
nomasteryodaor yoda04:39
nomasteryoda=)04:39
RotundI want to get Ubuntu to auto-detect multiple video cards.  what is the program the installer uses to call xresprobe?04:39
hybridlol04:39
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hybridnomasteryoda : i am the first to tell you i am a newbie but maan i feel like a att guru04:40
benhybrid: this is what I'm doing >> sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /windows/c04:40
Rotundubuntu04:40
nomasteryodahybrid, lol04:40
hybridben ok what is the t argument?04:40
farruinntype04:41
bent is for type04:41
hybrido i c04:41
farruinncan anyone suggest a good gnome-terminal replacement?04:41
benhybrid: i tried without t but i was getting an error..04:41
bretzelsomeone running Hoary array-cd-4 ???04:41
Rotundeterm =)04:41
benxterm04:41
farruinnscreen is miserable in gnome-terminal =(04:41
hybridyea that should work04:41
hybridi think -f is force04:41
farruinnooh, I meant with tabs04:41
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ProgramGeekHi04:42
randabiswtf?04:42
nomasteryodafarruinn, you should be able to use konsole, but will have to install some kde libs04:42
hybridhello04:42
benhybrid: it seems like it works, but when I do that command..a window pops up as if to display folder /windows/c but then i get a message that I dont' have the premission to view this folder...odd04:42
hybridplz dont say u  wanna install linux on a notebook04:42
nomasteryodarandabis, huh?04:42
nomasteryodaben, sudo04:42
randabisnomasteryoda, it be my sis vncing me04:42
bretzelnomasteryoda: what ? konsole is wors than gnome-term ...!04:43
randabismuhahahah04:43
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niptacproblem fixed I ran gst-register-0.804:43
hybridtry doing it in the root terminal04:43
nomasteryodabretzel, er, IMHO tis better04:43
bennomasteryoda:  I am using sudo with my mount command..thats why its puzzling..04:43
randabisI R OWNZ JOO04:43
hybridand try ls -a to see what you get04:43
nomasteryodaben, open the "root terminal"04:43
benroot terminal?? god I'll try that..04:43
nomasteryodatry it direct from there04:43
bretzelmaybe Eterm, but largest fonts are too small in 1600x1200 ...04:43
nomasteryodamake sure you did04:43
bengood*...thanks guys..04:43
nomasteryodamkdir /windows04:43
nomasteryodaand /windows/c04:44
hybridrabdabis lmao j00 =\|2\_| `/4}{0004:44
benyup..i did that04:44
bretzelSo no one using hoary array-cd-4 ???04:44
farruinnnomasteryoda: I know about konsole and I agree with bretzel04:45
nomasteryodaok04:45
Xappebretzel, no i upgraded in early december04:45
hybridill brb yall04:45
nomasteryodai use gnome term.. its ok too04:45
bretzelsorry :-/04:45
farruinnnomasteryoda: do you use screen with it?04:45
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benwoah, the stuff is actually mounted...but I can't view it because I'm not root...thanks ppl..i think i know how to fix this now04:46
Xappeumask=0222 or something like that04:46
farruinnben: the mount man page *might* be helpful, but good luck =)04:46
bretzelXappe: Because if it contains the frozen pkgs , I want to know if nvidia-glx works with my FX 5200!!!! Sh&&%^ I tried everythings to get it loads the GLcore lib, it IS there but cannot find it !!! duh!04:47
nomasteryodaben, umount then chown ben /windows/c04:47
nomasteryodathen remount04:47
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Xappebretzel, ah ok. fglrx for me, so I can't help you there04:48
bretzelXappe: fglrx: ATI ???04:48
hybridbac04:48
Xappebretzel, yes04:48
bretzelIs the Radeon 9700 supported ??? :-P04:49
Xappewell, i've got a 9600 pro04:49
Xappeworking04:49
bretzelXappe: #D accel ?04:49
bretzeloops read 3D04:49
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hybrid i got the standard ibook ati radeon working right after the install04:50
tritiumhey there hybrid04:50
hybridhey man04:50
Xappebretzel, yep, the new drivers from ATI now works with xorg04:50
Levanderis it possible to export environment variables inside a crontab file?  So that the commands I run from the crontab also the the variable values?04:50
tritiumSo what happened with mpq?04:50
hybridhey left bout 20 min ago finally04:50
farruinntritium: he ran away04:50
tritiumoh...04:51
hybridafter we made some jokes04:51
hybridlol04:51
tritiumoh, did he get upset?04:51
hybridyea i had to give him the url to google04:51
nomasteryodalol04:51
tritiumyikes04:51
bretzelXappe: Oh! my ! I know NVIDIA is loosing field against ATI so I am thinking of switching to ATI...04:51
farruinnI'm sure he appreciated the jokes...04:51
hybridi dont think he knew what a search engine was04:51
nomasteryodahe did no notice04:51
Xappebretzel, well the linux support for nvidia seems better though04:51
nomasteryodai think he might have been 1204:52
hybridtritium i told him his pic was under the man page for newbie04:52
tritiumwell, I guess we tried to help.  In fact, you guys helped more than I did, since I left.04:52
hybridbut besides that idk y he left04:52
nomasteryodahybrid, LOLROTF04:52
hybrid;)04:52
tritiumhybrid, ouch04:52
bretzelappe: I know NVIDIA supports linux, but I dunno why ATI is far better than nvidia when it gets to work indeed :-)04:52
hybridsad part is he didnt get it04:52
tritiumbretzel, nvidia works just fine04:53
tritiumhybrid, probably a good thing04:53
hybridlol04:53
hybridprolly04:53
bretzeltritium: -er, no: nvidia doesn't work here for me :-/04:53
benwhere is PATH located?? /etc/profile??04:53
hybridapt-get dist-upgrade est time 2 day 20 min 35 sec04:54
hybrid:'(04:54
tritiumbretzel, how so?04:54
nomasteryodahehe04:54
hybriddamn04:54
Xappeheh, what crapline are you on hybrid?04:54
hybrid3 day 9hr 23 min04:54
hybriddirecway Xappe04:54
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farruinnben: yeah or .profile or .bash_profile or .bashrc ...04:55
Xappehybrid, adsl?04:55
hybridit gets blocked by weird thins04:55
benthanks farruin...04:55
hybridXappe; yea but it is also 802 11b04:55
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tritiumbretzel, can I help?04:55
Xappehybrid, ok04:55
hybridmy signal is only 75%04:55
nomasteryodahybrid, man, i would have to find a cable04:56
hybridoh yea 7704:56
bretzeltritium: hoary upgrade, nvidia-glx  - driver is totally screwed. I told here some days ago that the nvidia kernel cannot load a couple of  modules: GLcore: it IS there, but not found ( duh! ) - libdri etc .... all those modules are installed but no reason to not find it04:56
hybrid<---- middle of nowhere!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!04:56
nomasteryodaer... lol04:56
farruinnbretzel: did you try modprobe [module]  ?04:56
Xappei'm normally getting like 800 -900 K from the ubuntu servers04:56
hybrid<city>______________________________________<store>_____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________<me>04:56
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randabisthe nvidia driver doesn't use GLCore04:56
farruinnhybrid: please, that's very annoying04:56
hybridoo srry04:57
nomasteryodalol, but funny04:57
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tritiumbretzel, you're supposed to not load GLCore and dri.04:57
tritiumbretzel, that's a setting in /etc/X11/xorg.conf04:57
farruinnbretzel: oops, dont listen to me :D, tritium's the man04:57
Xappebretxel, and you have the restricted modules etc.?04:58
nomasteryodatritium is the heavy hitter..04:58
nomasteryoda=)04:58
bretzelrandabis: I tried by commenting out the glcore line... no luck --- wiat I'll be back, retrying without  hope...04:58
tritiumyou guys are silly04:58
tritium:)04:58
hybridgo tritium go tritium04:58
nomasteryodalack of sleep will do that to you04:58
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hybridlol04:58
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bretzeltritium: ok but nvidia-glx-config enable script doesn't disbale those line in xorg, and it was still there in warty ...04:59
Xappeoh damn. it's 05 A.M. already, shit I have to sleep soon04:59
tritiumbretzel, that's fine.  Let's comment then out.04:59
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hybridwo i went from 11 days est  day to 1 est days04:59
hybridlol04:59
hybridlol04:59
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tritiumhybrid, by then, there will be new updated to get ;)05:00
tritiumupdates05:00
bretzeltritium: okay, I can't remember how many times I tried ( commeting : glcore+dri without success ) let me try again ) see you soon05:00
Xappehmm, no morning paper yet...lazy paper boy05:00
hybridlol05:00
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hybridlol05:00
hybridonly 10 pm here05:01
Xappeah, now it arrived05:01
hybridlol05:01
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AgenThas anyone had problem installing hoary on qemu? it gets almost half way into the install and then qemu seq faults... any ideas? using qemu 0.6.2 compiled on gentoo :)05:01
hybridomg05:02
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tritiumAgenT, did you see the wiki page on that?05:02
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inc_sup room05:02
mebaran151hey05:02
tritiumhey05:02
mebaran151anybody have any idea why my sound suddenly stopped working05:02
mebaran151I checked the mixers05:02
mebaran151even alsamixer05:02
inc_sound is evil05:03
mebaran151and I am pretty sure it is not muted05:03
AgenTtritium: do you mean the howto install on qemu wiki page or is there another? that wiki page says nothing about seg faults from what i remember05:03
mebaran151esd is on05:03
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mebaran151inc_, yes it is05:03
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mebaran151but I happen to be Satan05:03
mebaran151so you know how it is05:03
mebaran151but I digress05:03
Xappeah nice, the linuxdcpp seems to be based on dc++ 0.668...05:03
tritiumAgenT, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/howto/installation-qemu/05:03
mebaran151any stale socket that could do this thing05:03
hybridtritium it went up to 23 days for a split sec05:03
inc_didn't you sell evil to microsoft?05:03
bitfooesd is evil :|05:03
mebaran151inc_, yeah05:03
mebaran151I sort of did05:03
randabisuse polypaudio :)05:03
hybridi hate these estimated time remaining05:03
mebaran151gave them the rights witha eula05:03
mebaran151my alsa doesnt seem to be working though05:03
tritiumhybrid, :O05:03
inc_lol05:04
mebaran151because directed mplayer out it05:04
inc_try rebooting.. usually works for me05:04
hybridlol05:04
mebaran151and it still makes no noice05:04
mebaran151I have rebooted about 50 times05:04
bitfoohmm :|05:04
hybridwent do to 17 hr then tho lol05:04
hybridwhacked05:04
bitfoodid you disable sound server on startup05:04
bitfoomaybe try gstreamer-properties switched to also05:04
hybridno wonder the debian sign also means CRAZY05:04
bitfoomplayer -ao alsa ?05:05
mebaran151bitfoo05:05
bitfoo:(05:05
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mebaran151nope05:05
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mebaran151bitfoo05:05
mebaran151yep05:05
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AgenTtritium: followed that, except i used a little more memory (have some to spare) and bypassed the network stuff05:05
mebaran151I did that05:05
inc_i too have issues with sound.. my cd player work.. listining to it now, but mp3 don't play05:05
tritiumAgenT, oh...05:05
mebaran151mplayer -ao (an mp3)05:05
bitfooinc_, what are you using to play mp3 :|05:05
tritiumAgenT, I've only tried qemu with the LiveCD.05:05
HrdwrBoBmebaran151: mplayer -ao esd05:05
tritiumAgenT, I can't get X to start, though.05:05
inc_that rythembox or xmms or mplayer05:05
AgenTtritium: any ideas? i also tried more than one hoary live cd.... one "official" and one daily05:05
bitfooit dont play on xmms? :|05:06
inc_xmms and mplayer seem to freeze.. rythembox gives and error that it can't wriet to file05:06
tritiumAgenT, no, I haven't seen qemu segfault05:06
AgenTtritium: errr... i didnt mean live cd i meant install cd above :)05:06
hybrid49710 days omfg omfg that waz wierd05:06
bitfoook for xmms rightclick go to preferences and switch the output to esd :|05:06
bitfooi think05:06
bitfoo:|05:06
bitfoohybrid i had that happen before05:06
tritiumhybrid, your CDs from shipit will arrive before that05:07
mebaran151I might just try a reinstall05:07
hybridlol05:07
inc_well i went into gstreamer-properties and i get an error connecting to pipe when trying to use esd05:07
bitfoowhen i startup sometimes it says "it has been 49710 days since your file system was checked"05:07
bitfoo:|05:07
mike_I heard that getupdates had been ported to Ubuntu and a release might be soon. Does anyone have any more information on that?05:07
tritiummebaran151, did you inspect any of the logs in /var/log05:07
tritium?05:07
AgenTtritium: i also tried 2 live cd's and to tell you the truth it did not work for me... i think it froze at one point and the other gave me 640x480 desktop... but it did work on a different pc05:07
mebaran151tritium05:07
mebaran151yeah05:07
mebaran151dont see anything really alsa relatedc05:07
mebaran151it all says05:07
mebaran151alsa loaded05:07
mebaran151yeah05:07
mebaran151its good05:07
Dreamer3is ubuntu kernel source on the install CD?05:08
tritiummebaran151, esd is running for sure?05:08
AgenTtritium: what do you mean you used qemu with the live cd? how does that work? you mean qemu inside the live cd or do you mean you booted the live cd inside qemu... and if so, why?05:08
farruinnDreamer3: I don't think any source packages are on the install cd05:08
tritiumAgenT, I booted the LiveCD with qemu just to test out the new array-405:08
Dreamer3farruinn: hmmmmmmmm05:09
AgenTtritium: ahhh.... okay :)05:09
AgenTtritium: out of curiousity, what version of qemu did you use?05:09
tritiumAgenT, you're trying to install ubuntu on top of Gentoo?05:09
inc_bitfoo: know how to check to make sure esd is running05:09
hybridwhat is array-405:09
farruinnanyone use vlc to watch a divx movie? When I run vlc I get "Illegal instruction"05:09
Dreamer3yes, it is :)05:09
tritiumAgenT, 0.6.105:09
tritiumps aux | grep esd05:10
farruinnDreamer3: the source is on the disc?05:10
AgenTtritium: im trying to install ubuntu inside qemu... qemu is installed in gentoo, yes :)05:10
inc_i get this Failed to construct test pipeline for 'ESD - Enlightenment Sound Daemon' in gstreamer properties05:10
inc_lol ps.. hmm that's one way hehe05:10
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mebaran151inc_, run the command esd05:10
mebaran151if esd is on05:10
Dreamer3farruinn: for the kernel yes05:10
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AgenTtritium: i also installed a dif os without trouble in qemu05:10
mebaran151it will complain you are trying to run it05:10
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randabishybrid it's the latest milestone release of hoary05:11
inc_it's not05:11
z44k4Any GRUB experts feel like helping me get my system dual-booting Ubuntu and Linux? :)05:11
mebaran151also05:11
Dreamer3farruinn: oh wait05:11
Dreamer3farruinn: maybe not05:11
z44k4I mean, Ubuntu and Windows? :)05:11
mebaran151heheh05:11
mebaran151where does windows rest05:11
randabisz44k4 www.ubuntuguide.org05:11
z44k4Damn, Freudian slip there.  I can't even SAY Windows. Hahaha05:11
tritiumAgenT, how about installing in chroot?05:11
mebaran151and do you have to hdd05:11
mebaran151two05:11
mebaran151the guide is good though05:11
z44k4Ubuntu is on sda and Windows is on sdb.05:11
mebaran151I forgot about it05:11
mebaran151oh05:11
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mebaran151same setup with me05:11
inc_$ esd05:11
inc_/dev/dsp: Device or resource busy05:11
hybridhey yall i g2g05:12
hybridttyl05:12
Dreamer3just when i thought i might get DRI working tonight05:12
inc_cya hybrid05:12
hybridlater tritium05:12
z44k4Windows boots fine when it's the only drive connected, but when I connect the Ubuntu drive (as sda), I can't get GRUB to boot Windows off sdb.05:12
AgenTtritium: how would that work? how do you boot an install cd and have it install in chroot then have ubuntu boot like normal inside chroot?05:12
mebaran151ok05:13
mebaran151anyone know if I can pull some dbg from esd05:13
mebaran151I killed it05:13
Dark_Kyohow to share a ressources between two PC under ubuntu, it's possible via samba?05:13
mebaran151to see if it helps05:13
tritiumAgenT, I'd have to sit down with some documentation on that one.05:13
AgenTz44k4: you may be using bad numbering in grub... i dont remember how it goes exactly but i do remember that for grub the first hd is 0 and the second 1 same as partitions... also, make sure you have the "first" hd as master and the second as slave05:13
z44k4Dark_Kyo: What resources?  Just file shares?  NFS might be a better choice maybe?05:13
mebaran151z44k405:13
mebaran151you have to map it05:13
Dark_Kyofiles shares only05:13
tritiumAgenT, here's some info: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebootstrapChroot/view?searchterm=chroot05:14
mebaran151Windows hates being the second drive05:14
AgenTtritium: but you know it would work?05:14
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mebaran151Any alsa experts here05:14
AgenTtritium: thanks05:14
mebaran151or else I am just going to pull a reinstall05:14
tritiumAgenT, I don't know if I'll bet anything on it ;)05:14
gobeavswhats your prob mebaran?05:14
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z44k4mebaran151: Yeah, I figured that was the problem.  Windows wants to be the first drive...05:14
Dreamer3hmm05:14
farruinnDreamer3: apt-get source -b linux-kernel?05:14
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mebaran151grub lets you map em05:14
bretzelno succuess!05:14
Dark_Kyoz44k4, i can use NFS to perform this?05:14
tritiumbretzel, okay, what does your /var/log/Xorg.0.log say?05:15
mebaran151so that windows is tricked to think drive is two and drive two is one05:15
mebaran151that sort of thin05:15
mebaran151g05:15
tritiumlook for any errors or warnings05:15
mebaran151anyway05:15
mebaran151alsa suddenly began not to work05:15
mebaran151out of the blue05:15
bretzeltritrium: wait ...05:15
mebaran151checked my mixer05:15
z44k4Dark_Kyo: I don't know if NFS or Samba is the better choice if every system is Linux.  I tend to think NFS but who knows.  Samba would be convenient if you have Windows machines that want to connect as well.05:15
mebaran151check my speakers05:15
tritiummebaran151 is right.  grub has a remapping function05:15
mebaran151it is a little resident program05:15
mebaran151that is sometimes treated like a virus05:15
tritiummebaran151, did you say "check baby check, baby one two..."?05:15
mebaran151tritium, no05:16
tritiumbecause you have to do that05:16
z44k4mebaran151: I'm in my Windows system at the moment so can't look to be sure.  But I think there is a device.map file in my grub directory with hd0 set to /dev/sda and hd1 set to /dev/sdb.  Is that what I want to modify?05:16
mebaran151no05:16
mebaran151definitely not05:16
mebaran151you want to set it up as so05:16
chillywillyanyone know if hoary's Xorg will work with a ProSavage DDR chip?05:16
mebaran151go to # flood05:16
mebaran151I am going to just post my grub conf05:16
mebaran151or actually05:16
chillywillyand whether I can get DRI going ;)05:16
mebaran151let me just paste the 3 lines here05:16
z44k4mebaran151: Your choice. ;)05:16
chillywillythat is what is on my work machine...been itching to upgrade to Ubuntu at work from Debian sid :)05:17
mebaran151title           Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition05:17
mebaran151root            (hd1,0)05:17
mebaran151map             (hd0) (hd1)05:17
mebaran151map             (hd1) (hd0)05:17
mebaran151makeactive05:17
mebaran151chainloader     +105:17
mebaran151that is how it should look05:17
mebaran151sorry for the flood05:17
chillywilly*thwap*05:17
z44k4Thanks mebaran151.  Okay, that's mostly how mine looks except I'm missing the map lines.  So, I'll add those and see what happens. :)05:17
mebaran151yeah05:18
mebaran151the map lines fix alot05:18
bretzeltritium: strange: no (EE) in log,05:18
mebaran151just dont let it kill that program05:18
mebaran151if you let it05:18
tritiumbretzel, any insights?05:18
mebaran151you get some serious BSOD05:18
inc_so anyone know how to get esd running?05:18
mebaran151I mean BSOD hardcore05:18
mebaran151inc_, did you type esd05:18
tritiummebaran151, what program?05:18
mebaran151as root05:18
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imnesIs there any way to edit menu's in Hoary?05:18
mebaran151tritium05:18
mebaran151if you have McAffee05:18
farruinnmebaran151: would it be possible for you to use enter less? ;)05:18
mebaran151it will think grub is a resident05:19
bretzeltritium: nothing ... (II) NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA 3D Acceleration Architecture Initialized05:19
bretzel(II) NVIDIA(0): Using the NVIDIA 2D acceleration architecture05:19
bretzel(==) NVIDIA(0): Backing store disabled05:19
mebaran151farruinn, sorry bad habit05:19
bretzeland ... last line: (II) Initializing extension GLX05:19
mebaran151Mcaffee will then kill grub05:19
tritiumI see05:19
inc_yea got this error /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy05:19
z44k4Thanks, mebaran.  I'll report back if I can get into freenode from lostirc or something.05:19
tritiuminc_, what does "lsof /dev/dsp" say?05:19
z44k4Before I go, what's a good IRC client available in Hoary?  I'll just install it after I boot... :)05:20
inc_nothin05:20
tritiumbretzel, does X not start?05:20
mebaran151z44k4, xchat05:20
mebaran151is sexy05:20
mebaran151hehe05:20
z44k4Thanks again.  BBL.05:20
mebaran151Damnit05:20
inc_i use gaim05:20
mebaran151I am just going to do a reinstall05:20
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bretzeltritium: no - what is libfbmmx ???05:20
mebaran151I like my sound05:20
mebaran151it is important05:21
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mebaran151besides I have a whole bunch of useless programming that has piled up here05:21
mebaran151a good time to do a format05:21
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mebaran151clean slate05:21
tritiumbretzel, sounds like a library for framebuffers to use MultiMedia eXtensions05:21
mebaran151Dreamer3, why do you keep sighing05:21
inc_ tritium: nothing comes up in lsof05:21
tritiuminc_, hmm...05:21
tritiummebaran151, sorry!05:21
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bretzeltritium: oh! but no mention execpted module "extention" ??05:22
mebaran151tritium05:22
mebaran151hmm05:22
mebaran151looks like esd is being bad05:22
tritiumyes05:22
tritiumbretzel, what?05:22
mebaran151nope, skilling esd did nothing05:22
Dreamer3_mebaran151: because i have to download the source to the kernel before i can build DRI05:22
mebaran151nuts05:22
bretzeland X doesn't start -- well, the screen blanks and no returns05:22
tritiumDreamer3, why are you going to compile?05:23
Dreamer3_tritium: i have to have the kernel source to build DRI modules for my savage video card05:23
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Dreamer3_tritium: you've build DRI before?05:27
tritiumHoly Smokin' Jesus05:27
BiteMeBillWOW05:27
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tritiumDreamer3, no, but other modules, e.g. pcmcia-cs, lirc, etc.05:27
inc_what was that05:27
flowerssnothing like network problems with irc05:27
tritiuminc_, it was a disturbance in the matrix ;_)05:28
inc_hehe05:28
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inc_i just tpe esd from commandl ine right? i get this /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy05:28
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tritiumDreamer3, you might want build-essential05:28
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Dreamer3_tritium: i'll try that next if i can't compile :)05:29
Dreamer3_tritium: i'm still fearful i'll need a full kernel :)05:29
tritiumnah05:29
Dreamer3_wow, going my 3rd night without heat05:31
Dreamer3_not so bad once you get used to it05:31
inc_move to FL it's a cool 75 degree05:31
Dreamer3_inc_: 46 degress here :)05:31
BiteMeBillDreamer3: What happened in the music city?05:31
Dreamer3_inc_: they were supposed to bring me more fuel oil today, but no show05:31
flowerssDreamer3_ where are you located?05:31
Dreamer3_flowerss: southern indiana05:31
Dreamer3_BiteMeBill: music city?05:31
flowerssman, if we had no heat the pipes would freeze, and all the old people and babies would die over night.05:31
inc_ouch... sounds expensive05:31
BiteMeBillDreamer3: I thought your location was Nashville Ten.05:31
tritiumDreamer3, where?05:31
inc_got firewood? or a fireplace to burn it05:31
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Dreamer3_BiteMeBill: nope, sprints host names are just weird :)05:32
tritiumDreamer3, I'm in West Lafayette for the next 6 months05:32
Dreamer3_tritium: i'm in a little unheard of town called marengo05:32
BiteMeBillDreamer3: True...  I'm on their DSL.05:32
tritiumDreamer3, hello, neighbor05:32
Dreamer3_tritium: hello05:32
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Guardiann46 deg damm a heat wave there05:33
Dreamer3_my ubuntu felt really fast yesterday, but feels kinda laggy today05:33
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Dreamer3_and i don't know why it would be any different05:33
Dethreadis there a way to burn audio cds using the nautilus-cd-burner?05:33
flowerssI can't connect to any windows shares05:33
HrdwrBoBDethread: no05:33
Dethread:(05:33
Dreamer3_Guardiann: yep :) it was 30 last night... hot shower in the morning never felt so good05:33
Dethreadok, thanks05:33
tritiuminc_, I can't think of anything else atm05:33
HrdwrBoBDethread: give it a day or two05:33
tritiumDethread, or try graveman or k3b05:34
HrdwrBoBDethread: I'm packaging a program to do that05:34
Guardiannits 23 here at the moment05:34
tritiumHrdwrBoB, days?  really?05:34
Dethreadk3b depends on too much KDE stuff :)05:34
tritiumDethread, I agree!05:34
inc_bummer05:34
flowerssdreamer3_ 30 F is like short sleeve shirt weather here damn near.05:34
randabisgnomebaker is good too05:34
Dethreadalright, I'll try one of those. thanks guys05:34
Dreamer3_flowerss: *laughs* yeah, whatever05:34
inc_brb05:34
Dreamer3_tritium: i'll have those headers soon05:34
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tritiumokay05:35
flowerssDreamer3_ here it's about -25 C, whatever that is in F, I dunno.05:35
Guardiannflowerss where are you at05:35
flowerssGuardiann, balmy Edmonton05:35
Dreamer3_flowerss: i think i'd freeze to death if i was there withotu heat05:36
farruinnit is an unusually warm 0 C here05:36
flowerssdreamer3_ for sure.05:36
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GuardiannBarrie here05:36
Dreamer3_tritium: the moment of truth05:39
tritiumdrum roll...05:39
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inc_ back05:39
Dethreadhm, graveman is not in the warty repositories :(05:39
tritiumDethread, oh...05:40
DethreadI'll get it from Debian sid ;)05:40
tritiumDethread, it's in Hoary too05:40
Dethreadah, hoary, here I come, then05:40
johanndoes someone here recognize the problem Im having. If I turn off my laptop and the power cord is not plugged then it turns off fine. If the power cord is plugged in then it goes down for a shutdown, ends by calling acpi and reboots05:40
Dreamer3_tritium: amazing05:42
tritiumDreamer3, gee, you're 180 miles away05:42
tritiumdid it work?05:42
Dreamer3_tritium: want to come hang out *laughs*05:42
Dreamer3_tritium: it's compiling05:42
tritiumexcellent05:42
Dreamer3_tritium: taking a long time seems05:43
Dreamer3_but compiling05:43
dreamwaveanyone here use qtparted to resize an ntfs partition?05:43
tritiumdreamer, yes, very unsuccessfully ;)05:43
dr_willisive used it in the past and its worked.05:43
dreamwavethat's what i was afraid of05:43
Dethreadtritium, now...when trying to install graveman from hoary, it also wants to update/install a bunch of packages...is this safe to do with me running warty?05:43
dr_willisI think you want to be sure to defrag the ntfs befor hand..05:43
dreamwavehmmm.05:43
dr_willisand scandisk it later..05:43
dreamwavedefinitely05:43
farruinnDethread: heh, in a word, no =)05:43
dr_willisor course backup  befor hand also.05:43
dr_willis:P05:43
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Dethread:(05:44
dreamwave:)05:44
tritiumDethread, depends on your level of comfort with using Hoary packages.05:44
Dreamer3_tritium: well, brb, seeing if X.org works :)05:44
Dreamer3_AFK05:44
tritiumok05:44
farruinnDethread: I tried a mixed system and had mixed results05:44
Dethreadhmm...I'd better not do it then...05:44
dreamwavei'm happy with the liveCD so i'm very close to putting on the HD all together.05:44
tritiumDethread, apt-get source --build it05:44
farruinnDethread: ^^^^ that's what I do for hoary stuff05:45
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Dethreadapt-get source graveman --build ??05:45
farruinnit will download the ubuntu sources for the package then build it against your warty libraries05:46
farruinnat least that's my understanding05:46
Dethreadah, neat....05:46
Dethreadi'll try that05:46
tritiumDethread, you sometimes need some build dependencies too05:46
Dethreadhmm05:46
farruinnapt-get build-dep05:46
tritiumso if it doesn't work, don't despair05:46
Dethreadbut it won't upgrade packages, right?05:46
tritiumDethread, no, you'll be building a Warty package05:47
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Dethreadwhen doing "apt-get build-dep graveman" it again tries to install/upgrade a bunch of things...I guess there's no way around it05:48
dreamwaveDethread, i seem to recall there was a way to have it ignore deps05:49
tritiumdreamwave, it won't build without them05:49
dreamwaveoh.  building05:49
gobeavsisnt the gstreamer configuration tool gstreamer-settings?05:49
gobeavsbecause my hoary install doesn't have it05:50
tritiumDethread, try to install those same packages from warty05:50
Dethreadgood idea05:50
tritiumDethread, do an "apt-get build-dep graveman -s" to simulate the action05:50
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Dreamer3_ok05:50
tritiumthen, install those packages listed05:50
DAC1138how do i add modprobe to an init script? i want to modprobe something before GDM loads05:51
tritium(from Warty).05:51
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shilbertHallo05:51
tritiumDAC1138, why not add the module to /etc/modules?05:51
Dreamer3_on debian i can resize a window, disconnect from screen and reconnect and irssi will know about the new size... on ubunut i have to type /resize... what am i missing?05:51
DAC1138tritium, how do i do that?05:51
shilbertI don't suppose anyone knows why dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg isn't changing my x.org file? :)05:52
tritiumDAC1138, list the modules you want modprobed in /etc/modules05:52
shilberterr xorg.conf file05:52
Dreamer3_tritium: any idea?05:52
tritiumshilbert, the md5sum has probably changed05:52
randabisshilbert, did you by chance ever edit the file manually?05:52
tritiumDreamer3_, don't know about that.05:52
shilbertYeah, I did. I saw the thing about making a .md5sum file, but I can't get it to work05:53
DAC1138tritium, so just edit (with vi or gedit) the /etc/modules file, and add the thing i want to modprobe?05:53
shilbertWhere's it look for it?05:53
tritiumDAC1138, yes.  use sudo05:53
DAC1138tritium, already done, thanks05:53
DAC1138ill see if it worked next reboot05:53
tritiumDAC1138, ::)05:53
tritiumoops, four eyes!05:53
randabismutant!05:54
tritiumheh05:54
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randabisyou clorinated the gene pool :p05:54
tritiumI must be more radioactive than I thought!05:54
tritiumshilbert, say again?05:55
shilbertWell, you're supposed to use md5sum and make a xorg.conf.md5sum file right?05:55
shilbertTo make dpkg-reconfigure actually update your config file, I mean.05:55
tritiumyes05:56
tritiumif you've edited it05:56
shilbertSo what directory should it go in?05:56
shilbert(yeah, I have)05:56
tritium/var/lib/xfree8605:56
shilbertalright05:56
tritiumyes, even xorg05:56
shilbertI think I tried that once but I will try again05:56
shilbertyeah, I was wondering about that :P05:56
tritiumI think daniels fixed the instructions at the top of /etc/X11/xorg.conf05:57
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DAC1138ubuntu is all over the linux reviews today05:57
shilbertsee, my xorg.conf was originally from xorgconfig05:57
tritiumI see05:58
nomasteryodaubuntu is too cool05:58
DAC1138is it okay to post links here?05:58
tritiumsure05:58
DAC1138http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20050207#105:58
DAC1138wish i was at that school05:58
randabisyeah I read that yesterday :)05:58
DAC1138we have windows PCs still, and only a few fual G5 macs05:58
gobeavsIn hoary, should our output sound system be ALSA, arts, OSS, or what!?05:58
tritiumesd05:58
DAC1138at my old school, we used fedora core 205:58
DAC1138im sure the teacher is considering ubuntu about now05:59
tritiumwhich school?05:59
gobeavstritium: but XMMS, Cedega, and audacity dont like esd :(05:59
tritiumgobeavs, XMMS can use esd just fine05:59
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tritiumdon't know about the others05:59
shilbertalright, it worked05:59
shilbertwonder why it didn't work last time06:00
tritiumshilbert, yay06:00
tritiumgobeavs, are you from Oregon State?06:00
gobeavstritium: well, it doesn't on mine....it freezes whenever I try to use it. I had problems with it after switching to KDE, then I just switched to arts...but now I'm back in gnome with hoary, and it doesn't work06:00
gobeavsI'm not from OSU, but I love them06:00
shilbertIt's kind of funny, I spent several hours trying to get xorg to use the fglrx drivers properly (turned out I had DRI commented out), and now I had trouble getting it to switch back to the vanilla ati driver (I want to see if the composite stuff is pretty)06:00
gobeavsI'm from the area06:00
shilbertanyway, brb, restarting X and so on06:01
goldfish_hhm06:01
tritiumgobeavs, cool06:01
gobeavstritium, you from around here?06:01
ProgramGeek"Someone already said that 8 seconds ago"06:01
ProgramGeekGrrr...06:01
tritiumgobeavs, no, used to live in Seattle.  OSU beat my alma mater in the bowl game this year.  :(06:01
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gobeavs:P06:01
tritiumthey were too fast for us06:02
tritiumgood team06:02
gobeavswe hope next year will be better06:02
gobeavswe want to go back to the glory days of simonton and jonathon smith06:03
gobeavs:D06:03
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shilberthrm06:03
tritiumgobeavs, we do too, now that we got Charlie Weis from the N.E. Patriots :)06:03
shilbertwell that's no good06:03
shilberthangs or freezes or something on normal ati driver :/06:03
gobeavsYeah, Weis should do them some good :D06:04
z44k4What the frack does this mean and can I fix it?     W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.nerim.net unstable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B90706:04
tritiumgobeavs, I think we're due nat.'l champ. #12 and Heisman tropy #806:04
tritiumtrophy06:04
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gobeavstritium: I can't believe you fired willingham06:05
gobeavstritium: I thought he was pretty good, a victim of circumstances06:05
tritiumgobeavs, I didn't do it!  I really respected him!06:05
mpqokay, I'm on ubuntu again06:05
tritiummpq, welcome back06:05
tritiumgobeavs, I agree.06:05
Dreamer3_hmmmmmmmmm06:05
shilbertthat reminds me, is there a nicer way to get out of GDM into a normal console besides actually killing it? :P06:05
randabisz44k4, it's not a big deal, but it means that that source is not authenicated06:05
HrdwrBoBshilbert: c-a-F106:05
tritiumshilbert, Ctrl-Alt-F1, log in, /etc/init.d/gdm stop06:06
randabisyou "can" get it authenticated, but you don't have to06:06
shilbertthanks06:06
tritiumshilbert, or restart, if you want to restart it06:06
shilbertI think I magically froze something else now06:06
tritiumcheck /var/log/Xorg.0.log06:06
shilbertI'm going back to my old config :/06:06
tritiumgobeavs, good luck to you and your team :)06:06
mpqis there a way to safely partition a NTFS drive?06:07
z44k4randabis: Okay, so I should still be able to install from that repository?  There's a package I'm trying to install that I thought was available on that repository but it's not being found.06:07
tritiummpq, we talked about that earlier, right?06:07
mpqI forgot06:07
tritiumyou're kidding, right?06:07
randabisz44k4, yeah you shouldn't have a problem...what package are you looking for?06:07
z44k4Well, initially I was trying to install transcode.  It's hanging on one of it's dependencies.06:08
shilbertctrl+alt+f7 gets back into X?06:08
mpqI forgot how to do whatever06:08
tritiumshilbert, yes, if you restarted it06:09
shilbertalrighty06:09
mpqI still don't have a clue what I'm doing...06:09
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tritiummpq, you're using the LiveCD right now?06:09
shilbertI wonder when fglrx will work with composite extensions06:09
nomasteryodatritium, hes baaaakkk06:09
mpqyeah, I still don't know how to install it yet06:09
tritiumnomasteryoda, time for another beer?06:10
randabisshilbert, when ati gets off their ass and adds support06:10
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nomasteryodatritium, or a nap06:10
nomasteryodalol06:10
shilbertheheh06:10
tritiumit is after midnight here.  Almost time for bed...06:10
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tritiumcheers06:10
nomasteryodampg, read the wiki06:10
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mpqit's q06:10
mpqnot g06:10
nomasteryodarandabis, thanks06:10
randabisnp06:10
nomasteryodaoops06:10
Cube-nesshey, if you add a NIC to an existing ubuntu installed computer, how can you make it try to detect NICs like during the install?06:10
nomasteryodamy other chat window is mwg06:11
z44k4randabis:  Looks like libavifile-0.7c102 is what I'm needing for transcode.06:11
mpqthe "how to install" page didn't go anywhere06:11
shilbertI wonder if composite will use software rendering if I use a vesa driver06:11
tritiumCube-ness, it should be detected.  You'll want to configure it, however.06:11
randabisI'm not familiar with that z44k4 so I dunno06:11
crimsunshilbert: yes.06:11
Cube-nesstritium, how?06:12
lunitikz44k4: why do you want transcode?06:12
tritiumCube-ness, Computer->Administration->Networking is one way06:12
farruinnmpq: congratulations, you're the hardest person to help in the world ;)06:12
tritiumCube-ness, editing /etc/network/interfaces is another06:12
tritiummpq, we're trying to help, but you didn't even take any notes on what we suggested?06:13
z44k4lunitik: I've been doing my XviD encoding under Windows up until now.  Mostly Tivo-extracted video.06:13
nomasteryodampq, try reading this http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/WindowsDualBootHowTo/view?searchterm=partition06:13
tritiummpq, did you even _try_ anything we suggested?06:13
randabishoenstly, I think if mpq can't figure this much out, there is no way he's going to be able to even install ubuntu06:13
randabishonestly even06:13
nomasteryodacheers mates! lol06:14
nomasteryodatrue06:14
randabisnot trying to be a troll or anything...06:14
nomasteryodagot my motors running ... lol06:14
shilbertYay, I've got uber-slow software rendered compositing :)06:14
tritiummpq, you will have to be willing to try a few things, even if they're not "easy"06:14
nomasteryodaboats in the water06:14
nomasteryoda=)06:14
mpqI feel so stupid06:15
lunitikz44k4: mencoder-386 isn't what you want? I've never had a use for transcode, but keep seeing it come up is why I ask...06:15
tritiummpq, no06:15
mpqI feel like an aoler06:15
tritiummpq, we understand that you're learning06:15
nomasteryodampq, LOL06:15
Dreamer3_ok, i want a browser that loads faster than firefox06:15
nomasteryodaaoler06:15
shilbertthis is pretty sexy actually06:15
Dreamer3_this is ridiculous06:15
shilbertdespite being about eight frames per second when I move windows06:15
z44k4lunitik: No idea what I need.  transcode was the first thing I found when I started Googling for solutions to XviD encoding on Linux. :)06:15
nomasteryodaDreamer3_, links or lynx06:15
nomasteryoda=)06:15
randabisyeah we're willing to walk you through as much as we can, but you're going to actually have to try some things we suggest :p06:15
Dreamer3_nomasteryoda: *laughs* GUI preferrable :)06:15
nomasteryodadillo06:16
nomasteryodalimited, but fast06:16
tritiummpq, at the very minimum, you're going to need to download and burn to CD a utility06:16
nomasteryodaopera is faster06:16
nomasteryodathan firefox06:16
randabisDreamer3_, well, epiphany might be up your alley too06:16
Dreamer3_nomasteryoda: doesn't support styles, virtuall useless :)06:16
randabisif you were on hoary I'd suggest galeon06:16
tritiummpq, and, if you don't want to backup your data, that's your choice, but you have to be prepared for the possibility of data loss06:16
Dreamer3_randabis: i've used it before... it just starts moz/firefox, doubt it's much faster06:16
z44k4lunitik: Looks like mencoder will install, so I guess I'll start looking at that instead. :)06:16
Dreamer3_randabis: can't get galeon on warty?06:16
randabisthere isn't a package for it06:17
farruinnDreamer3_: build it06:17
johannif I shut down my computer with the power cord plugged in the computer ends by calling acpi off and reboots, but this doesnt happen when the computer is running on battery. Does anyone know how to fix this06:17
z44k4I just noticed that Synaptic isn't obeying my current GTK theme.  Is that normal?06:17
tritiumjohann, search the wiki for "acpi".  I think I saw a page about that.06:17
mpqI need to start over06:17
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randabisz44k4, yes06:18
tritiumTempura, why are you going to start over?06:18
randabisit uses root's theme iirc since it is activated with gksudo06:18
Tempurabecause mpq is impossible06:18
johannok thanks06:18
z44k4randabis: Doh.  That makes sense I guess.  Still ugly anyhow. :)06:18
tritiumTempura, so, are you going to download a CD image and burn it to CD?06:18
Tempurayes06:19
Tempurabut I need to know what to download06:19
Tempuradoes it matter that I'm on a live cd?06:19
shilbertlet's see what X is choking on now...06:19
tritiumTempura, you have a choice.06:19
Tempuracan I safely take out the cd?06:19
lunitikTempura: how old are you? seem young...06:20
tritiumThis 110 MB image was my recommedation: http://www.sysresccd.org/06:20
Tempuraalmost 1706:20
tritiumTempura, but you can also use knoppix (~700 MB), or somebody suggested http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/bootitng.html06:20
lunitikTempura: you really should try to figure out some of this stuff yourself... trial and error will allow you to retain info.06:20
Dreamer3_is opera in non-free?06:21
lunitiks/allow/help/06:21
lunitikDreamer3_: yes06:21
tritiumTempura, please write those down06:21
Tempurait's kind of hard when a possible error is formatting the hard drive06:21
lunitikahh.. it is... but its not in an Ubuntu repo...06:21
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tritiumTempura, that's why we recommend backups06:21
=== Dreamer3_ wonders what version though *looks worried*
randabisopera has ads :/06:21
randabis7.5406:21
randabisI got the static deb06:21
imnesWell if you like it, buy a copy and turn off ads ;)06:21
randabistrue enough06:22
Tempuraok... I should really do this on windows06:22
randabispoor kid06:22
Dreamer3_randabis: it should be in multi-verse, right?06:22
tritiumhard to even help him06:22
shilbertoh woot, I think it's working06:22
randabisDreamer3_, I don't think it is even in the ubuntu repos06:22
Dreamer3_randabis: i see06:22
randabisI downloaded the deb from their site06:23
randabisI'm about to check it out06:23
lunitikDreamer3_: wait... its really there? hah... nothing listed in 'show' though... 'apt-cache search opera' returns like 4353637 things...06:23
Dreamer3_randabis: yeah, i'm on it now06:23
randabissee if the deb even works06:23
shilbert'ati' driver doesn't like specifying VideoRAM06:23
Dreamer3_randabis: good point :)06:23
Dreamer3_randabis: let me know06:23
Dreamer3_Reformed: i won't bother if it doesn't06:23
Dreamer3_randabis: if it's mostly static it should thoguh06:23
shilbertGreat, it's at least a little faster than composites on the vesa driver ^_^06:24
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randabisit works dreamer06:24
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imnesYeah it works I've installed it06:24
shilbertstill kind of slow though :|06:24
mpqokay, I'm downloading knoppix06:24
mpqmsg nickserv identify 1mp399ab1306:25
mpqshit06:25
tritiumpoor guy06:25
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lunitikooo,.... its like ping on crack   8)06:25
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nomasteryodampq, lol06:25
nomasteryodai have done that too06:25
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tritiumwe need to be patient with him06:26
nomasteryodayes06:26
nomasteryodatime to put away the mickey hats06:26
Dreamer3_randabis: fast?06:26
tritiumI feel bad for the kid06:26
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nomasteryodame too06:26
nomasteryodabeen there06:26
nomasteryodalong time ago06:26
Tempurawell that may have been the stupidest thing I've done today06:26
tritiumyeah06:26
tritiumno, not you, Tempura06:26
Tempurayeah, mpq...06:27
Dreamer3_anyway to turn off full window dragging in gnome?06:27
nomasteryodaTempura, man you move up a notch or 306:27
tritiumTempura, no, I meant that I wasn't agreeing with your statement.06:27
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tritiumTempura, don't worry, we've all done stuff like that06:28
TempuraI didn't say you did06:28
imnesDreamer3_ I don't think you can do that.06:28
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tritiumTempura, I didn't want you to think that, though.06:28
Dreamer3_imnes: sheesh, it's trying to drive me back to xfce06:28
TempuraI'm downloading knoppix now06:28
Tempurabut it's taking a while06:28
tritiumTempura, good.06:28
shilbertI don't suppose anyone knows if it's possible to get the same icon theme firefox has on windows?06:28
Dreamer3_imnes: i've tried to make my gnome look like xfce, but no luck :)06:28
shilbertThe little gnome house icon is bothering me06:28
imneshehe06:28
tritiumTempura, that's why you might reconsider the other 2 options.06:29
tritiumThey're around 110 MB06:29
tritiumshilbert, in firefox?06:29
imnesDreamer3_ The new slackware came out and I didn't really like the announcement as a gnome user.06:29
shilbertyep06:29
randabisDreamer3_, it loads very fast :)06:29
tritiumshilbert, that's supposed to be getting fixed.06:29
lunitikshilbert: warty? or hoary? they changed the default again   :/06:29
Dreamer3_imnes: what announcement?06:29
shilberthoary06:29
lunitikDreamer3_: they dropped gnome06:30
lunitikshilbert: try the 'gnome-fx' theme06:30
Dreamer3_lunitik: IE, a new security hole every day... Firefox, new icon set every release06:30
imnes"Including the two most advanced desktop environments, KDE and XFCE"06:30
imnesI think the next sentence was "Also includes Gnome 2.6"06:30
shilbertwill that actually pull icons from my gnome icon theme?06:30
randabisslack 10.1?06:30
imneshttp://www.slackware.com/announce/10.1.php06:30
Dreamer3_lunitik: interesting06:30
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tritiumTempura, I'm not going to be able to stay much longer.06:31
Tempurais it possible to create partitions while in windows?06:31
randabisopera seems to load pages VERY slowly06:31
Dreamer3_lunitik: gnome is still included06:32
lunitikDreamer3_: ahh... my mistake... it won't be for long though apparently...06:32
tritiumThe default firefox theme should be restored in a future fix to firefox06:32
imnesDreamer3_ there was talk about scrapping gnome in the next release of Slackare, apaprently the maintainer Pat doesn't like gnome and doesn't like having to build it.06:32
lunitikThey want to drop support and just have people use Dropline apparently...06:32
randabisI agree06:32
tritiumlunitik, thom said it was being fixed...06:32
stuNNedTempura: um ya with something like parition magic but i've had bad luck with it and ntfs06:32
shilberttritium: is there anything I can do to get it back now?06:33
shilbert(that doesn't involve too much work :P)06:33
tritiumshilbert, not that I'm aware of.06:33
Dreamer3_imnes: wel, that'd be his call :)06:33
Dreamer3_imnes: they have xfce ;-)06:33
lunitiktritium: you meant to send that to me? if so, what was fixed?06:33
farruinnshilbert: sudo apt-get remove --purge mozilla-firefox ; apt-get install mozilla-firefox?06:33
Dreamer3_i could SO use XTerminal (xfce) all day long if i cold dynamically resize fonts like gnome06:33
tritiumlunitik, that dropline replaced the default theme06:33
lmurilloI have a problem on my user is able to log in without any problems, another user gets an error if the file .xsessions exists, saying that it can't find the command fluxbox, the line in the .xsessions file is [exec]  fluxbox06:34
lmurilloThat's the same file I have and I can log in without any problems. Can someone help me :(06:34
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crimsunDreamer3_: you can dynamically resize them.06:34
imnesDreamer3_ I do like xfce but I've gotten use to the new gnome features too much to leave :)06:34
lunitiktritium: huh? Dropline is a Gnome implementation for Slack...06:34
AnubisI borked my boot dir so I reinstalled06:34
imnesI guess I could just run nautilus on it and keep most of them?06:34
shilbertlunitik: I'll try that06:34
Dreamer3_crimsun: like ctrl + and ctrl -?06:34
Anubiseverything has gone great06:34
Dreamer3_crimsun: cause i sure missed that if you can06:34
Anubissaw some new things I missed06:34
Dreamer3_imnes: what new gnome features?06:34
Anubisbut the only thing thats odd06:34
Anubis(hoary)06:34
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lmurillobtw, I'm using Ubuntu Hoary06:35
Anubisis that I have lost fake transpernecies06:35
Dreamer3_crimsun: i sweat i tried it06:35
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crimsunDreamer3_: not sure about the keyboard shortcuts (at work), but you can change the current profile's settings, and they'll be applied06:35
randabisblah...opera is kinda nice, but pages load SLOWLY06:35
Dreamer3_crimsun: you know something i don't?06:35
Anubishow do you lose fake trasnparency?06:35
Dreamer3_crimsun: i need keyboard bindings :) i know you can change the settings06:35
imneswell not new anymore, but stuff like the media mounting, dvd burning I use a lot.06:35
lmurillook, I'll come back tomorrow, nite to all06:35
lunitikDreamer3_: only thing of note that I am liking so far isn't even GNOME... its GTK... search-as-you-type or whatever...06:35
tritiumlunitik, dropline is being used in firefox on ubuntu.  read the changelog06:36
Dreamer3_crimsun: i run windows different sizes and change them constantly06:36
shilbertlunitik, it doesn't seem to have changed anything06:36
Dreamer3_lunitik: yeah, i've seen tha ti think06:36
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syn-ackHey everyone.06:36
imnestritium - what?06:36
shilbertoh well06:36
niptachi guys do I need to create a new bash.bashrc file for this "The JAVA_HOME environment variable is not defined06:36
niptac This environment variable is needed to run this program06:36
niptacIm trying to run tomcat06:37
tritiumimnes, what?06:37
randabismaybe opera is using ipv6 :/06:37
crimsunniptac: (I thought I explained last night)06:37
randabisgotta figure out how to change that06:37
niptaccrimsun I lost it06:37
lunitiktritium: according to the bug/enhancement request I filed about Firefox, they are using gnomestripe in Ubuntu... as per new firefox default...06:37
niptacsorry06:37
crimsunniptac: were is your jdk/jre installed?06:37
tritiumlunitik, sorry, it's calledgnomestripe theme06:37
crimsunwhere^06:37
lunitikhttps://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=216206:37
niptaccrimsun I stuffed things up and reinstalled06:37
tritiumlunitik, you're kidding.  That's the new default?06:38
tritiumMan, that sucks06:38
shilbertgnomestripe as in pinstripe?06:38
shilbertOh.06:38
niptaccrimsun my j2sdk is installed in /usr/local/06:38
lunitikshilbert: it uses the GNOME icons...06:38
TempuraI'm going through my computer, and I can't seem to find much that I'd be afraid to lose06:38
shilbertah06:39
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TempuraI'm backing up vital stuff, then I'm going to attempt to partition06:39
farruinnTempura: sounds like you're ready to plunge in =)06:39
mebaran151I found my alsa problem06:39
imnestritium - you said dropline is being used in firefox on ubuntu I didn't understand what you were talking about.06:39
nomasteryodaTempura, go for it06:39
mebaran151my speaker cord had a cut06:39
mebaran151heheh06:39
TempuraI don't have a partitioner yet06:39
mebaran151stupid06:39
nomasteryodaUltimate boot cd06:39
lunitikshilbert: its based on a Mac OS X theme, that was ported to windows as Winstripe and to gnome as the aformentioned theme06:39
TempuraI was just going through and getting important stuff06:40
shilbertI see06:40
lunitikAnnounced recently as new default...06:40
lunitik(for firefox...)06:40
nomasteryodai like the looks of that one06:40
crimsunmebaran151: nice "alsa" problem :p06:40
tritiumimnes, I was mistaken.  It's called gnomestripe06:40
imnesok06:40
crimsunniptac: and the dir name?06:40
mebaran151crimsun, yep06:40
mebaran151no wonder I couldnt solve it06:40
niptaccrimsun my j2sdk1.4.2_07 is installed in /usr/local/06:41
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tritiumOld theme looked better, imho06:42
lunitikweird refreshing bugs with that beast  :/06:42
crimsunniptac: so you should place in ~/.bashrc: export JAVA_HOME=/usr/local/j2sdk1.4.2_0706:42
lunitiktritium: new one fits in better...06:42
tritiumyes, but uglier06:42
crimsunniptac: and export PATH=$JAVA_HOME/bin:$PATH06:42
imnesAnybody know how I can add some menu items to the menu in Hoary?06:42
tritiumimnes, not possible yet06:43
lunitiktritium: matter of opinion... I change to something that looks more like everything else...06:43
farruinnlunitik: pinstripes fits into ubuntu better?06:43
tritiumlunitik, sure, matter of opinion, as I said06:43
imnestritium not even by manually editing files on the filesystem?06:43
niptaccrimsun: you mean run it in terminal as root or edit the .bashrc file with gedit?06:43
farruinnniptac: putting the line in .bashrc will make it permanent06:43
Anubisis esetroot borked?06:43
crimsunniptac: gedit will suffice. It's _your_ user, not root's.06:43
tritiumimnes, you can probably edit .desktop files in /usr/share/applications06:43
Xappeinstead of sleeping (it's 06.44 am here in sweden) i'm compiling cedega cvs06:43
lunitikfarruinn: its not pinstripes... gdi... its a Firefox theme that uses GNOME icons.06:43
tritiumimnes, but I haven't tried it, so no guarantees06:43
crimsunAnubis: no, it works fine on both warty and hoary.06:43
Anubiswhat si suppsoed to draw gnomes desktop?06:43
niptacas /usr/local?06:44
farruinnlunitik: heh, thanks, I was confused =)06:44
farruinnAnubis: nautilus06:44
imnesAnubis - doesn't nautilus?06:44
crimsunniptac: use the syntax I gave you.06:44
Anubiscrimsun, i no longer can use the transpanercy features built into programs anymore?06:44
imnesI know when nautilus freezes my desktop doesn't refresh :)06:44
niptaccrimsun: ok06:44
lunitikimnes: yes... nautilus handles that  :)06:44
crimsunAnubis: works here, ymmv.06:44
AnubisI have a glass gkrellm06:44
Anubisbut its not drawing the desktop behind it06:44
tritiumtime for bed06:45
crimsundid you just set the root hint?06:45
tritiumgood night all06:45
randabisusplash is late :/ oh well, hopefully it'll be out this week06:45
lunitiktritium: night man06:45
shilberthmm, so if I want to get rid of this ugly house icon, maybe I should just change my gnome theme06:45
Dreamer3_randabis: did it autoadd it to a menu for you?06:45
tritiumlunitik, night06:45
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shilberticon theme at least06:45
randabisnite tritium06:45
Dreamer3_randabis: opera?06:45
ZotnixUnstable nautilus is sort of like Explorer06:45
lunitikrandabis: I don't reboot enough to care about such things  :P06:45
randabisDreamer3_, I didn't look, used console :p06:46
randabislunitik, yeah me either, but it's still a nice gesture :p06:46
Dreamer3_randabis: ok, how do i edit gnome menus?06:46
lunitikrandabis: plus... they are working on making the boot process faster... somewhat a waste of effort if they can speed it up enough  :)06:46
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shilbertweird06:46
randabisDreamer3_, open nautilus and in the address bar put applications:///06:46
Tempurajust had an interesting conversation with my sister about partitions06:47
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randabisthen go to the part you want to add the launcher to, and right-click --> add launcher06:47
Tempura"imagine putting a cat in a dog in the same room"06:47
Dreamer3_lunitik: no06:47
Tempura"why not just get rid of the dog?"06:47
lunitikDreamer3_: chicken06:47
randabislunitik, warty, that's why I'm telling them this way06:47
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da_bon_bonDreamer3_: warty ?06:47
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Tempura"I'm not ready to get rid of the dog yet"06:47
regeyashilbert, iirc you can change just the icon if you wish06:47
Tempura"basically you put up a wall so they won't see each other"06:47
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Tempura"then you kill the dog"06:48
Tempura"hopefully"06:48
randabisu get that Dreamer3_?06:48
shilbertgnome-theme-manager is going whacky on me06:48
shilbertthere, better06:48
randabisheh06:48
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pestilmy boo my boo my boo hoo06:48
imnesthe theme switcher freaks out on me, wont' let me scroll.  But if I click on another theme on the first page then it works fine?06:48
mebaran151hey06:49
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mebaran151I was just wondering if it is possible06:49
mebaran151to install both 32 bit and 64 bit Ubuntu06:49
mebaran151on the same hdd06:49
mebaran151and basically try to chroot between them06:49
Tempuraknoppix just finished06:49
lunitikmebaran151: sure? kinda wasteful though06:49
Dreamer3_randabis: excepting cliking ok doesn't add it06:49
mebaran151so that the 32 bit stuff works06:49
shilbertI'll just use qute 3 for now06:49
crimsunmebaran151: that's normally what happens.06:49
Dreamer3_randabis: nothing happens06:49
shilbertimnes: that just happened to me too06:49
crimsunmebaran151: default 64-bit install, 32-bit chroot.06:49
mebaran151crimsun, thta was what I had thought06:50
shilbertI switched back from ati to fglrx driver for X and it seemed to work06:50
lunitikmebaran151: crimsun is doing something like that I think... he seems to like chroots rather a lot  :P06:50
mebaran151but I dont notice a 32 bit chroot06:50
shilbertalthough I don't know if that was the exact cause06:50
crimsunmebaran151: did you debootstrap correctly?06:50
shilbertConsole output suggests it's having trouble creating the thumbnails06:50
mebaran151I havent tried it06:50
mebaran151openoffice runs06:50
mebaran151in my 64 biyt environment06:50
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mebaran151but it looked like the linked it to 32 bit emul libs06:50
mebaran151some how06:50
imnesI just installed a theme called Wintah (I think that's the spelling), it's different but looks pretty nice.06:50
crimsunmebaran151: to run 32-bit apps, you create a 32-bit chroot using debootstrap06:50
Dreamer3_randabis: nothing :(06:50
mebaran151ahh06:51
crimsunmebaran151: more info on the wiki06:51
mebaran151I might try it06:51
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mebaran151because Evolution is so borked for 64 bits right now06:51
mestapheles.06:51
crimsunmebaran151: tried 2.1.5?06:51
mebaran151yep06:51
imnesheh don't feel bad, evolution on hoary is borked in general06:51
mebaran151same prob06:51
crimsunevo has teething pains.06:51
mebaran151yep06:51
mebaran151but I used evo alot06:51
crimsunoff to work again.06:52
mebaran151see ya crimsun06:52
imnesSeems impossible to add new task categories, I add one, it shows up with a blank label instead of what I typed, and clicking on again to edit it just crashes evo06:52
mebaran151my gnome mixer is now freezing06:52
mebaran151no big deal since I can just load the alsamizer06:52
mebaran151alsamixer06:52
mebaran151if I want06:52
mebaran151to change alot06:52
mebaran151but it is sort of annoying06:52
mebaran151it freezes06:52
Tempuracan I open .txt files while in linux?06:52
pestilimnes: is this it? http://www.gnome-look.org/content/pre1/18669-1.jpg06:53
Xappehow long do you think it takes to compile cedega cvs?06:53
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Dreamer3_anyone know how to add an app to the gnome menu when applications isn't cutting it?06:53
Tempurado txt files work in linux?06:53
shilbertTempura, yes you can06:53
Xappefeels like it's taking forever :P06:53
Tempuracool06:53
underdoghas anyone had a problem with "undefined reference to `XF86VidModeQueryVersion'" when compiling something?06:53
imnespestil - yeah that's it06:53
TempuraI wanted to save a list on my usb flash drive and I wanted to make sure I'd be able to read it06:54
underdogi have all the x libs installed but it just won't cut it06:54
imnesFirefox didn't want to work with it properly (menu was unreadable) until I logged out and back in then everything was fine.06:54
shilbertOnly thing is that Linux uses \n newlines instead of \r\n06:54
shilbertso if you make the file entirely in Linux and you have your editor set up to use \n newlines, it will look like it's all on one line in windows notepad06:54
pestilimnes: yeah opera is plain better than firefox06:54
imnesI got the gnome user switcher compiled and installed yesterday, that's a nice little applet if you share the computer with other people.06:55
imnesheh but opera won't use the theme at all :(  I have to have all my apps match I don't like mixing qt + gtk + whatever else ;)06:55
niptaccrimsun: do I have to reboot to make it work?06:55
pestilimnes: whaddaya mean? opera takes themes06:56
randabisopera is kinda nice06:56
randabispages seem to load slowly though :/06:56
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imnesyeah I but I want it to match my other desktop apps.06:56
Tempuraokay, I just burned knoppix to a cd06:56
niptaccrimsun: I tried to gedit /etc/bash.bashrc and didnt work06:56
Tempurahow do I use it to partition?06:56
imnesI dunno if I can find 'wintah' for opera06:56
niptaccrimsun: same error06:56
randabisTempura, what did you use to burn it ?06:56
Tempurasoftware that came with the computer06:57
imnesPlus computer is fast enough that opera isn't any faster than firefox for me.  I like firefox anyway.06:57
Tempuradoes it matter?06:57
randabisthat's not going to work probably06:57
Tempurawhy?06:57
pestilimnes: oh, you got wintah for firefox?06:57
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randabislook at the contents of the cd you just burned06:57
Dreamer3_hmmmmmmm06:57
lunitikTempura: what do you see on the disc when you read it? I think thats what he is getting at...06:57
Tempurait worked for ubuntu06:57
randabiswhat are the contents06:57
wm_eddiehttps://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/LiveCDCustomizationHowTo SICK!!!06:57
Dreamer3_the files all show up in .gnome2/vfolders/applications06:57
niptaccrimsun: so I tried to run ~/.bashrc: export JAVA_HOME=/usr/local/j2sdk1.4.2_07 in terminal and then export PATH=$JAVA_HOME/bin:$PATH06:57
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niptac and again same Java error06:57
Dreamer3_just not in the applications window06:57
felix_was_bretzehi all :-) please, I get the screen name "felix" , the first-name of my son :-)06:58
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Tempuraugh, windows explorer just crashed for some reason06:58
felix_was_bretzeSh^&T I was Bretzel06:58
TempuraI'm reminded of why I was doing this in the first place06:58
randabiswell if it worked for ubuntu then I guess it will probably work for knoppix...depends on how you burnt it I supposed06:58
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AnubisThis is what xchat tells me06:58
lunitikfelix_was_bretze: its not up to us....06:59
TempuraI did it the same way as ubuntu06:59
AnubisUnable to set transparent background!06:59
felix_was_bretzeRandabis: I've just finished installing Hoary Array-cd#4 :-)06:59
AnubisYou may be using a non-compliant window06:59
Anubismanager that is not currently supported.06:59
Tempurashould I boot in knoppix now?06:59
randabisyeah probably06:59
Tempuraok06:59
lunitikAnubis: what is your wm currently?06:59
randabisheh06:59
randabisfelix_was_bretze, cool06:59
heliolithHi all, I've successfully installed Warty now on 3 different machines (1 mine and 2 for the school I teach at) Is there any reason to think that it would be any more difficult if I do it on a laptop (Dell inspiron 8100) ?06:59
imnespestil - don't need a theme for Firefox, it picks up the gnome theme and uses it.06:59
Dreamer3_ok07:00
Dreamer3_weird07:00
Dreamer3_now it works07:00
imneshttp://www.cs.uwf.edu/~nsmith/Screenshot.png07:00
pestilimnes: really?!? didn't know that!07:00
randabisheliolith, wireless networking could be a problem07:00
felix_was_bretzerandabis: grub install hangs again at 33% but managed in expert to use lilo instead of grub07:00
randabiswell at least you've got a bootloader! :p07:00
wm_eddieDamn I don't have a new enough kernel >.>07:00
shilberthmm, what's a nice PDF viewer for linux? Xpdf doesn't render as nice as Adobe does on Windows :/07:00
randabisyou could try acroread07:01
heliolithrandabis hmm, ok I don't have that set up on the laptop anyway... but some people are getting wifi to work in Ubuntu?07:01
imnesshilbert: ggv does ok07:01
shilbertk07:01
randabisheliolith, yeah, I use wifi in ubuntu...what I meant was it might not work "out of the box"07:01
imnesyeah I guess you could always run the official acrobat for linux :)07:01
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Dreamer3_ok, i might just switch to opera :)07:01
felix_was_bretzeYes :-) - So logging out and call me felix from my next login here ...07:01
shilbertI just get bothered when I'm halfway done reading a book in one font and switch :P07:02
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heliolithahh okies so laptop = thumbs up: go for it (= thanks randabis07:02
pestilshilbert: there is Adobe Acrobat Reader for Linux07:02
randabisDreamer3_, yeah it's pretty nice..I just gotta figure out why pages load slowly with it07:02
wm_eddieDreamer3_: I tried it, but I don't get what people like about it so m uch.07:02
kevinz0rzlolhey is there any specific modes i need to burn the cd in to make it work? i.e. disc at once/track at once?07:02
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shilbertWho said there was?07:02
randabisI think it might be trying to use ipv607:02
pestilshilbert: ..but in my experience, it is much prettier in xpdf than in Adobe Acrobat for Linux07:02
wm_eddieit's not that fast...07:02
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kevinz0rzlolim trying to burn the live cd atm if that matters07:02
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Dreamer3_randabis: really?07:03
Dreamer3_randabis: opera has always been very fast anytime i've used it07:03
shilbertOoh, ggv is pretty07:03
randabiskevinz0rzlol, shouldn't matter07:03
Dreamer3_randabis: ctrl-l doesn't work in opera though, annoying07:03
kevinz0rzlolhmm ok thanks07:03
feli1now trying nvidia-glx ......pray for me ....07:03
imnesI don't know I used the latest version and it feels the same speed as firefox to me?07:03
pestilshilbert: who said there was... what?07:03
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shilbertAn official Acrobat for Linux.07:03
imnesYou can always run the port of Safari browser / konqueror on Gnome.07:03
pestilshilbert: there is07:04
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randabisDreamer3_, well it's slower for me than galeon so I gotta figure out why before I really start using it07:04
shilbertOh weird07:04
feli1.07:04
Dreamer3_randabis: hmmm, and fonts suck07:04
shilbertI read an "isn't" where there wasn't one07:04
randabisyeah fonts really suck hehe07:04
pestilshilbert: you can even pick it from synaptic. you can find it as "acroread".07:04
imneshttp://gtk-webcore.sourceforge.net/ if you want to try something new07:04
pestilshilbert: otherwise, you can download it from the Adobe website. Just look for it.07:04
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imnesThe reference browser wasn't meant for actual daily use, but it's something to play with.07:05
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ChuckWagon23hello07:05
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pestilshilbert: But I warn you, the whole interface just doesn't blend in, like xpdf.07:05
imnesI just installed it to test rendering of pages I work on to see if they work for konqueror / safari ok07:05
Tempuraokay, knoppix didn't work07:05
randabiswhat did it do?07:05
johannis someone here using wifi radar07:05
Tempurait started to boot then stopped loading for some reason07:05
shilbertah07:05
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randabishmm07:05
imnesIs he actually burning the image to disk or copying the .iso as a file to the cd?07:05
randabisdunno07:05
Dreamer3_none of my keystrokes work in opera though07:06
randabishe said it started booting07:06
Tempurait stopped booting somewhere around "USB mouse"07:06
Dreamer3_must be for mouse crippled users07:06
imnesk07:06
TempuraI think it wanted me to type something07:06
Tempurabut nothing happened07:06
shilbertjust for my information, is acroread in universe or multiverse or what?07:06
shilbertI've added universe to my sources but not multiverse yet07:06
pestilshilbert: it's probably in the additional repositories, yes07:07
imnesIs there a contrib and non-free like debian repos have?07:07
pestilimnes: yes there is07:07
randabisimnes that would be multiverse most likely07:07
imnesIt's in Multiverse07:07
imnesI just checked07:07
TempuraI'm going to try installing07:07
TempuraI'm going to open IRC on another computer07:07
Tempuraso I can get help while I'm installing ubuntu07:08
randabis...sigh...07:08
randabishe's going to wipe out his windows watch07:08
shilbertwhat makes something go in multiverse versus universe?07:08
randabisit's "free" status07:08
shilbertah07:08
imnesheh, galeon can be built against web-core instead of mozilla.07:08
imnesI had no idea.07:08
pestilshilbert: I thing universe only has certified "freedom" software07:08
Danko123456Ok, so I am trying to set up a dual boot, have been for days, here is some info...07:08
Danko123456Two hard disks, one 40GB, one 160GB, the 40GB one is set up to be the primary(the one it boots into), also that is the one that has Ubuntu on it.07:08
Danko123456This is what my /boot/grub/menu.lst looks like:07:08
Danko123456.....07:08
Danko123456titleMemory test07:08
Danko123456root(hd0,0)07:09
randabisif it isn't a "free" program then it will be in multiverse07:09
Danko123456kernel/memtest86+.bin07:09
pestilshilbert: multiverse has proprietary software too.07:09
Danko123456### END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST07:09
Danko123456title           Windows XP07:09
shilbertah07:09
Danko123456root            (hd1,0)07:09
Danko123456makeactive07:09
Danko123456chainloader     +107:09
Danko123456Also I have ran update-grub after having changed it, this is what the error looks like when I boot07:09
Danko123456Booting 'Windows XP'07:09
Danko123456root          (hd1,0)07:09
shilbertWeird, fglrx wasn't in multiverse if I remember though07:09
randabisgood lord man07:09
Danko123456Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x707:09
Danko123456makeactive07:09
Danko123456chainloader +107:09
randabisdon't do that07:09
Danko123456So please let me know what you make of all that...07:09
imnesjeez07:09
imnesman nex time paste all that to a web page07:09
Danko123456Well, it was supposed to be on one entry...07:09
randabispastebin.ca works07:09
shilberthttp://rafb.net/paste/ is nice too07:10
pestilDanko123456: try pastebin.com07:10
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Danko123456For the issue, or the message?07:10
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runenesmessage07:10
shilbertFor the message :P07:10
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Danko123456so how does that help my dual boot?07:10
Danko123456:P07:11
pestilgood bye07:11
shilberthmm07:11
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runenesDanko123456, post the url after you've pasted it to one of the past-thingies07:11
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shilbertAnyone know if there's something equivalent to programs like Norton Ghost for backing up ext3 partitions?07:11
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imnesshilbert - I've backed up ext3 partitions with ghost, so it works if you have it.07:12
shilbertinteresting07:12
feli1Is there a cache for the nicknames ??? Because I've set my nick to felix but it is replaced by feri1 ??? thus felix exists but not looged ?07:12
Danko123456I dont know how to do it, are you going to try to help me after I do it?07:12
shilbert2003 or 2004?07:12
Tempuraokay, I'm installing ubuntu on my computer07:12
feli1feli1 ...07:12
TempuraI don't know what to do now07:12
Danko123456http://pastebin.com/23952207:12
shilbert2004 maybe actually called '9', I forget07:12
feli1btw: randabis?07:12
Danko123456Wasnt too hard...:)07:12
randabisyeah?07:12
feli1nvidia-glx just works out of the box in this installation! :-)07:13
randabis:)07:13
Danko123456Just let me know if anyone is gonna take a look at it...07:13
shilbertI was surprised at fglrx working straight away too07:13
shilbertalthough I spent like two hours trying to get DRI to work before figuring out it was commented out in xorg.conf07:13
feli1dunno what happened during warty-to-hoary upgrade before ...07:13
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Tempurathe installer doesn't explain how to partition well07:14
randabisyou can't resize partitions with the ubuntu installer07:14
Tempurathe only option seems to be "format disk"07:14
underdoghas anyone had a problem with "undefined reference to `XF86VidModeQueryVersion'" when compiling something?07:14
feli1aarrrg! don't like "feli1" !!! changing to "felix_1"07:14
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TempuraI can't? That explains a LOT07:14
Tempurathen how do I resize it?07:14
randabishence why we told you to resize it beforehand07:14
randabiswe've been over that07:15
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felix_1?07:15
felix_1ahh! feel better now!07:15
TempuraI didn't understand how to without deleting the data07:15
randabisyou'll need to use partitioning software such as bootitng or the ultimate boot cd07:15
lunitikfelix_1: meet /nick  ... and /help07:15
shilbertqtparted can resize partitions07:15
imnesDanko123456 - It says your partition type is 7, NTFS which is right. I'm not sure why it says type unknown though07:15
shilbertalthough I managed to break an NTFS partition and had to do a WinXP recovery install once07:15
shilbertwhich is why I ghost my windows partition onto another drive before screwing with the partitions now :P07:16
randabislol07:16
mebaran151shilbert, do you know about qtparted07:16
mebaran151really easy07:16
mebaran151really safe07:16
felix_1lunitik: I don;t don;t understand - what do you mean? is it to force "felix" nick or what ?>07:16
shilbertqtparted is what broke my NTFS partition! :P07:16
randabisgparted > qtparted07:16
mebaran151oh07:16
Danko123456thanks. I am gonna paste what my fdisk for that drive says too.07:16
mebaran151Qtparted I think is based on the good nftsprogs07:17
shilbertYeah07:17
shilbertI think it was just a fluke07:17
mebaran151the nftsprogs have really gone a long way07:17
mebaran151no07:17
mebaran151awhile back07:17
mebaran151I think the ntfsprogs werent safe07:17
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mebaran151but they finally got them to be more reliable than the ones by Partitionmagic07:17
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shilbertIs there a good writable NTFS driver at all nowadays?07:17
mebaran151just not as easy to use07:17
randabiswhatever you do, do NOT use qtparted to resize a reiserfs partition07:17
shilbertah, cool07:18
shilbertI'll remember that :P07:18
lunitikfeli1: you can /msg felix and ask him/her to let you use the name I guess  :/07:18
mebaran151ranabis, can I convert my ext3 partition to reiserfs07:18
mebaran151I have always wondered that07:18
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lunitikmebaran151: no07:18
Xappeah, Call of Dutu did run in cedega cvs, good beginning...but it locked quite hard when i tried to quit the game...07:18
shilbertI'm tempted to put my common data on an ext3 partition and install an ext3 driver on windows rather than an ntfs driver on linux :P07:18
randabisshilbert, I believe there is something out there, can't remember the name07:18
Xappe*Duty07:18
lunitikwell... not without losing data07:18
randabismebaran151, not without wiping them out first07:18
shilbertI think there's one that loads the windows NTFS driver?07:18
mebaran151what about the convert prog07:18
mebaran151captive-ntfs07:18
shilbertlike WINE/ndiswrapper/whatever style07:18
mebaran151it works most of the time07:19
imnesDanko123456 - add the line  rootnoverify (hd1,0)07:19
Tempuraokay, I'm downloading UBCD07:19
randabisshilbert, that's what I'm referring to, but I can't remember the name07:19
mebaran151convertfs07:19
imnessee if that makes a difference.07:19
shilbertah07:19
Tempurabut I don't know how to use it07:19
Danko123456Thanks will try.07:19
shilbertWell I can find it on google if I need it07:19
felix_1lunitik: ah! if there is already a felix, I don;t want to disturb -- I feel well with "felix_1" anyway, I have ONE son named "Felix" :-) He's the #1! hehehe07:19
mebaran151lunitik, then what is convertfs for07:19
runenesto make services not start up, is it sufficient to chmod -x in /etc/init.d/ ?07:19
Danko123456Ill be back in any case.07:19
randabisyou'll have to burn it like you did ubuntu and knoppix...I can't help you from there..haven't ever used it07:20
Tempuraok07:20
Danko123456THats instead of the other root line right?07:20
mebaran151runenes, I dont think that is the best idea07:20
randabiswell I have used it, but when I did it did not have partitioning software on it07:20
mebaran151if you want no services to start07:20
randabismaybe check the site for info07:20
mebaran151just boot into single user mode07:20
heliolithSo, has anyone ever been prompted to RE-insert the Cd-rom during an Ubuntu install?  The only times I have been prompted were the times the install eventually ended up not going well...  I have one such machine currently that won't load X, and is stuck at command prompt... I'm not sure how to re-patch it, so I'm probably going to start from square one again with it...07:20
mebaran151I dont think they have any services under that07:20
runenesmebaran151, I want to stop some services from starting automatically07:21
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imnesyes I think so Danko12345607:21
Danko123456thanks07:21
mebaran151runenes, then I guess your way should work07:21
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imnesI've never dual booted so might be wrong :(07:21
mebaran151it is just sort of dangerous07:21
TempuraI want to resize the ntfs partition and create a fat partition so I can install ubuntu... will UBCD do that?07:21
lunitikrunenes: try 'rcconf'  'sudo apt-get install rcconf'07:21
mebaran151make sure you know what you want done07:21
randabisTempura, maybe, but ubuntu doesn't use fat07:21
imnesDanko123456 was looking at this: http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:JJQnTtrdUv0J:www.linuxforums.org/forum/topic-30442.html+add+xp+partition+to+grub&hl=en&start=4&client=firefox07:21
Tempurait doesn't?07:21
Tempurathen what?07:21
mebaran151lunitik, so what is convertfs for07:21
randabisyou'll want ext307:21
randabisbut let ubuntu installer handle that part07:22
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randabisjust resize the partition, and leave unused space07:22
felix_1oh my god! cannot run as root! and no sudo user!!!!07:22
Tempuraok07:22
stuNNedfelix_1: boot into single user mode?07:22
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Tempurawill 30 GB each be enough for windows and ubuntu?07:22
pUToHey I'm interested in trying Ubuntu but i'm having trouble getting to their site http://www.ubuntulinux.org is anyone else having problems?07:22
heliolithlol regeya07:23
mebaran151lunitik, convertfs does do that conversion07:23
randabisI recommend about 10 gig free space or more...minimum of about 507:23
Tempuraso 30 will be plenty?07:23
randabisyeah07:23
Tempuraok07:23
regeyadon't tell me...let me guess...ubuntu is set up to ask for root password when dropping down to runlevel 107:23
felix_1I need a sudo account (  my default user ), thus where I can put this to be sudoer ???07:23
heliolithputo do you speak spanish?07:23
shilbertHrm, so when you do 'sudo' on Ubuntu, and it asks for your password - is that your normal user account password, and root just has no password and ability to log in? Or are they both the same from the beginning?07:23
pUToyes07:23
regeyaexcept that it's oh-so-wonderful to not have a root password07:23
shilbertYou can always go sudo bash :)07:23
heliolithlol i can load ubuntulinux.org fine07:23
regeyadsaadsf07:24
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randabisI booted into single user mode yesterday07:24
Tempuralong download... I'll just stare at my Osaka wallpaper until it finishes07:24
pUToclaro que si07:24
heliolithputo: which version you want maybe I can pass you the link07:24
randabisit didn't ask me for a password07:24
pUTowarty 4.1 i think07:24
TempuraI bet everyone thinks I'm talking about the city07:24
randabisprobably some anime thing07:25
shilbertBut you're not, are you?07:25
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Tempuraof course not07:25
heliolithputo what country are you in?07:25
mebaran151how much better is reiserfs than ext307:25
Tempurawhy would I stare at a city?07:25
mebaran151I am thinking of having some risky fun07:25
mebaran151with convertfs07:25
pUToi've just been reading about it and thought i'd try it out but i cant get to their site07:25
randabismebaran151, reiserfs is faster when using small files07:25
magnonhm07:25
pUToUSA07:25
magnonis my alt button supposed to break in hoary?07:25
randabisreally I don't think it's worth it07:25
mebaran151randabis, how small is small07:25
mebaran151I mean07:25
heliolithPUTO: try this http://ubuntu.mirrors.tds.net/releases/warty/07:26
randabisprobably a meg or less, not sure07:26
mebaran151would it speed up /etc? :)07:26
randabisprobably07:26
mebaran151yeah07:26
mebaran151randabis, do you know anything about convertfs07:26
Tempuraaw, the download's done... I can't stare at her anymore07:26
randabisconvertfs will wipe the data from the partitions..I know that much07:26
heliolithdoes anyone have a solution for doing MULTIPLE ubuntu installs without having to wait for everything to download every single time?07:27
mebaran151randabis, really07:27
randabisyes07:27
mebaran151all it says is it can convert an inplace filesystem07:27
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mebaran151seems rather odd to have a utility to that07:27
mebaran151if it has to delete all the data07:27
mebaran151I could just go to cfdisk07:27
randabiswell I think it is meant to convert ext2 to ext307:27
randabisso no data loss would occur there iirc07:27
mebaran151I thought one used tune2fs for that07:28
mebaran151create a journal07:28
randabisperhaps, I'm not real familiar with all those disk utils07:28
mebaran151EXAMPLE07:28
mebaran151     convertfs /dev/hda2 ext2 reiserfs07:28
mebaran151this was jus the example07:28
mebaran151I will do more research07:28
mebaran151it looks like the holy grail of file system conversion utilities07:29
mebaran151it doesnt ask for any info07:29
mebaran151and it looks ridiculously simple to use07:29
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pUToheliolith: thanks for the link - its working07:29
Tempuranow it's burning the cd... I get to stare at my osaka wallpaper some more07:30
heliolithno hay de que (= no prob.07:30
randabisheliolith, you could opt not to download updates during the install07:30
pUTode donde eres07:30
Anubiswhat is it? esetroot?07:30
Tempurain case anyone cares... GIS for "osaka" and she's the only anime character on the first page07:30
underdoghas anyone had a problem with "undefined reference to `XF86VidModeQueryVersion'" when compiling something?07:30
mebaran151how does the initrd know which modules to load for the filesystem07:30
heliolithputo: NY... randabis but then it would be not "up to date" right?07:31
mebaran151I have always been amazed at that07:31
randabisheliolith, not until you update07:31
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heliolithrandabis and all the updating could be done via synaptic?07:31
Danko123456Hi, please read : http://pastebin.com/23952607:31
shilbertDanko, what's wrong with it?07:32
mebaran151sry07:32
shilbertI could show you how mine looks07:32
Dreamer3_mmmmmmmmm07:32
Danko123456With what, shilbert?07:32
Danko123456I mean whats wrong with what?07:32
shilbertWith your menu.lst07:33
shilbertOh, I see07:33
Danko123456Hehe07:33
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Danko123456Whats wrong, if I only knew...07:33
randabisheliolith, sure07:33
heliolithok thanks07:33
Tempurathat's great07:33
TempuraUBCD can't resize NTFS partitions07:34
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Danko123456I would be thankful, if you were to show me what your looks like...if it relates to my situation...07:34
randabishaha07:34
LanceGood evening07:34
shilbertWell, let me paste it07:34
randabiswelcome ol' buddy07:34
Danko123456hi07:34
heliolithI want my school to look like this someday!! http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20050207#107:34
Danko123456Thank you.07:34
randabisLance pwns u all07:34
randabislol07:34
shilberthttp://rafb.net/paste/results/EZfRFd73.html07:35
shilbertMy windows partition instructions are above the magic kernel area07:35
shilbert(just search for Windows)07:35
shilbertLooks basically the same as yours though07:35
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randabishmm maybe these torrents will finish this millenium07:35
Danko123456thanks, Ill try that.07:36
Anubispseudo-transparency is lost07:36
shilbertI think all the options are the same :|07:36
shilbertDid you have a bootloader on that drive?07:36
shilberterr partition07:37
shilbertI would assume Windows always has one07:37
underdoghas anyone had a problem with "undefined reference to `XF86VidModeQueryVersion'" when compiling something?07:37
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shilbertunderdog, during compiling or linking?07:38
Danko123456heliolith: I completely agree about the school thing :D07:38
underdogcompiling07:38
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Tempurawhich UBCD program do I use to resize NTFS partitions?07:38
shilbertWhat are you #including?07:38
shilbertX stuff?07:38
underdogactually07:39
underdogwhat I'm compiling doesn't use X stuff at all07:39
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underdogit might use libs that are staticlly linked to that, though07:39
underdogI have the feeling I may need to compile xorg from scratch07:39
danielsunderdog: er, no07:39
danielsyou just need libXxf86vm07:39
danielswhich is in libxxf86vm-dev07:39
Tempurahow do I resize NTFS partitions?07:39
underdogTempura, you don't07:39
Tempurathen how the hell do I install ubuntu?07:40
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magnonremove the ntfs partition? :>07:40
underdogdaniels, installed and up-to-date07:40
magnonI thought it was possible to resize them though07:40
ficusplanetTempura, look up/download the Linux System Rescue CD.  It will let you resize the NTFS partition with qtparted.07:40
TempuraI can't just remove the partition07:40
magnonin any case you can do it through windows with Partition Magic or something like that07:40
Tempuraso I can't without spending money?07:41
regeyaubuntu overtook mandrake, eh?07:41
Danko123456Are you in the states, tempura?07:41
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shilbertlol07:41
danielsunderdog: then you need to fix whatever you're compiling to link with -lXxf86vm07:41
ficusplanetTempura, Linux System Rescue CD = FREE07:41
magnonTempura: how you achieve partition magic is entirely up to you. :> but ficusplanet's idea is good enough07:41
shilbertoh so it WAS a linking phase error07:41
regeyawell, if anyone deserves to take mandrake's spot, I suppose it should be ubuntu07:42
Danko123456plus if you are anywhere but the states, I think it is perfectly safe to downmload it from some fileshare program...07:42
shilbertubuntu has been impressive07:42
TempuraI wish I was outside the states07:42
Danko123456So you are...07:42
shilbertI didn't have to spend a week getting fglrx to work like for FC207:42
Danko123456heh07:42
underdogdaniels, let me try07:42
Danko123456well good luck tehn..07:42
underdogdaniels, same problem :)07:43
Danko123456How about if I get the file for you, and send it to you in PM, is that illegal in the states too?07:43
Tempurawill qtparted resize ntfs partitions?07:43
mebaran151why cant we just use the mirrors07:43
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ficusplanetTempura, yes07:43
mebaran151Tempura, most definitely yes07:43
Tempuraok, then where do I get it?07:43
shilbertoh man07:43
ficusplanetTempura, Just google for it.07:43
shilbertDid you guys see the Steve Jobs NextSTEP thing that was on Slashdot?07:44
Danko123456the video07:44
Danko123456?07:44
shilbertyeah07:44
Danko123456I have it here,..07:44
Danko123456its pretty sweet.07:44
Tempurait doesn't run in windows07:44
Danko123456No?07:44
Danko123456heh...then get to it...07:44
Danko123456:)07:44
Danko123456He presents it as if it is some big thing...how old is that presentation?07:45
mebaran151regeya, I have always wanted GNUStep07:45
shilbertIt's kind of funny how much they basically figured out over ten years ago and people are just now catching up to on most installs07:45
TempuraI'm so confused07:45
shilbertit's from 1993 or so, I think07:45
Danko123456Yeah, for then it is very impressive.07:45
Danko123456FOr now...it is almost standard...07:45
shilbertWell, the Services thing was kind of nice07:45
shilbertOS X has that07:45
Danko123456I am getting an iBook tommorow at 12 noon, according to Fedex...07:45
Danko123456I must brag..07:46
shilbert:O07:46
Danko123456I am totally pumped.07:46
Danko123456heh07:46
Danko123456pumped...07:46
Danko123456Excited...its my first laptop...07:46
Danko123456I think it is gonna have a dual boot of Mac OS X, and Ubuntu....07:46
Danko123456Maybe some other distro...07:47
regeyamebaran151, it always sounds great in theory07:47
Danko123456I have a debian here on my desk...07:47
Danko123456but jusging on how dual boots havce been working for me so far...07:47
regeyaI set up ubuntu on a sawtooth last week.  Went really smoothly.07:47
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mebaran151I tried installing all the pkgs07:47
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eatmyshorI am here to let you know of a new site that just launched.  www.FreeStuffNation.com . get all kinds of free stuff (free ipods/free minimacs/free lcd monitors).07:47
eatmyshorwww.freestuffnation.com07:47
mebaran151for GNUStep07:47
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Danko123456is that guy for real?07:47
mebaran151but it never seemed to add another thing to boot07:47
Danko123456or is that some kind of script type thing?07:48
regeyayay irc spam07:48
stuNNedfucking spammer07:48
regeyaprobably07:48
Danko123456heh07:48
Danko123456sweet...07:48
regeyaeatmyshor07:48
stuNNedwww.infectmycomputerwithviriiandspywareFreeStuffNation.com07:48
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Danko123456hahhaa07:48
Danko123456All right, another reboot, see ya afterwards.07:48
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mebaran151is GNUStep like XFCE or Fluxbox07:49
Menaherannhello07:49
Menaherannare you guys familiar with madrake?07:49
mebaran151I can do some Mandrake07:50
Menaherannmandrake07:50
mebaran151it is not as good as Ubuntu though07:50
Menaherannhello there!07:50
regeyano, gnustep is an implementation of the nextstep specification...in theory, you could apply any cocoa programming knowledge you have toward gnustep.07:50
mebaran151I dont know no stinkin' cocoa :)07:50
randabisgnustep will run the hurd kernel eventuall hehe07:50
regeyathere are a few desktop apps out there for gnustep, but it's all very disogrganized07:50
randabisif it doesn't already07:50
regeyahahahahahah07:50
Menaherannwell i tride to install ubuntu in my old laptop, but it refuses to work.07:50
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randabisthere's a gnustep livecd now lolz07:51
randabisregeya, HA07:51
danielsguys, offtpoic07:51
shilbertI'm gone07:51
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TempuraI can't figure out how to use qtparted07:51
niptaccrimsun: this one works: echo "export JAVA_HOME=/usr/local/j2sdk1.4.2_07" >> ~/.bashrc07:51
Menaherannso actually if you guys could give this newvie a hand it'll be greatly appreciated07:51
Menaherann:)07:51
randabisTempura, you have to run it in a linux environment07:51
mebaran151Hurd Kernel07:51
mebaran151I never got that either07:51
TempuraI think I am07:51
mebaran151Why do we even need it07:52
mebaran151it sounds sort of cool07:52
regeyaspeaking of gnustep, has anyone run it under ubuntu?  I'd love to install gnu reniassance and develop native apps here at home, then recompile 'em at work on my panther box ;-)07:52
TempuraI don't know which file to use07:52
TempuraI don't know what to download or where07:52
regeya'coz I'm not holding my breath for a "native" GTK+ on OS X07:52
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randabisregeya, I'm pretty sure it will run, haven't tried07:53
randabisthe packages are certainly there07:53
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regeyahm.07:53
Menaherannhello?07:53
mebaran151Java07:53
Danko123456heh it did not make a difference/07:53
mebaran151I need to get that to go too07:53
LokkenSo... is this a good place to ask a couple of questions?07:53
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underdogLokken, this is a good place to ask a question several times and not to get a single valid answer07:54
TempuraI simply can't figure out how I'm supposed to install ubuntu without deleting windows07:54
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Danko123456Please read : http://pastebin.com/239524 , if you already have not and know anything about dual booting.07:54
Menaherannok..07:54
randabisTempura, resize the partition with partitioning software07:54
randabis...07:54
lakinTempura: you'l l need free space on a hard drive.  If windows already has the entire hard drive partitioned for itself, then you'll need to use a partitioning tool to resize the windows partition.07:54
Menaheranni installed ubuntu in my old laptop.07:54
TempuraI can't get partitioning software that will resize ntfs07:54
LokkenSB Audigy 2 ZS, Ubuntu Hoary Array-4, no sound.07:54
randabischeck your mixer07:55
Menaherannbut it gets stuck... doesn't finish the rebboting?07:55
lakinTempura: what are the reasons you need to keep windows? Data? Activations?07:55
randabismake sure the volume isn't down07:55
LokkenMixer's turned up.07:55
TempuraI'm not sure07:55
Menaheranni mean it prompts me for username/password07:55
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Danko123456Would you like me to download partition magic from somewhere, and put a link to it on a website, so you can download?07:55
LokkenAnd alsamixer is showing it as my sound card.07:55
Tempurano07:55
Menaherannbut then it hangs?07:55
Danko123456Ill change its name and everything...07:55
randabisLokken, emu10k1?07:55
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LokkenYep.07:56
Dreamer3hmmmmmmmm07:56
underdogregeya, noone helped on the solution07:56
calamarianyone know of a good channel to discuss computer building?07:56
Dreamer3does sudo catch credentials or something?07:56
underdogregeya, but I got it right already07:56
Dreamer3i can't figure out how it works07:56
Dreamer3it only prompts me for a password like once07:56
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Tempurayou may have a point07:56
jdubsee /etc/sudoers07:56
randabisLokken check desktop --> Preferences --> multimedia systems selector07:56
Tempurawhy do I want to keep windows?07:56
Dreamer3jdub: ok :)07:56
calamaritempura: for wine libs :)07:56
randabisyou should have both set to esd07:56
Danko123456if you have diff devices...that are not supported by Linux..07:57
randabisif that doesn't work, try alsa07:57
lakinTempura: My point is that it's typically easier to repartition your hard drive using the ubuntu install, leaving room for a windows install, then install windows, and finally install ubuntu.07:57
mebaran151Evolution will be unborked by the time Hoary is frozen07:57
mebaran151right07:57
mebaran151we arent going to freeze Hoary with an Evolution that doesnt start07:57
regeyaunderdog, so you're saying you figured it out without intervention...uh...07:57
Tempurayou know what?07:57
LokkenStill no go, Randabis.07:57
TempuraI'm going to do it07:57
Danko123456no, tell us.07:57
Danko123456sweet.07:57
LokkenNo go for ESD/Alsa/OSS07:57
Danko123456backup data...07:57
Danko123456if you want..07:57
lakinTempura: make sure that everying you'll need to use in ubuntu works from the live-cd first?07:58
randabiswell set it to esd...leave it07:58
lakinand back up data.07:58
lakinwhat's array 4?07:58
TempuraI can't think of anything I can't get later07:58
pussfellermy mass storage device is not showing up in /media07:58
randabisarray 4 is the latest milestone release of hoary07:58
jdublakin: latest versioned test release for hoary07:58
regeyaoh come on...go ahead and freeze hoary with a b0rked evolution.  we'll wait a few months.  we won't get any important email. ;-)07:58
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randabisI don't even use evolution :p07:58
Menaheranndid anybody got my message?07:58
Dreamer3ah, tty_tickets07:59
Danko123456yeah, me neither.07:59
Dreamer3neat07:59
lakinjdub: thanks.07:59
LokkenPossible that I may need to add some info to /etc/modules?07:59
randabisyou shouldn't need to07:59
randabisbut check lsmod07:59
LokkenOh, I should mention that this is the AMD64 version too.07:59
mebaran151randabis, what do you use for contact management07:59
randabisthunderbird07:59
Danko123456Menaherann: I did I just dont know how to do anything about it.07:59
regeyaI'd use Postilion.app, but I'm not a total freak07:59
mebaran151thunderbird only stores names and emails07:59
randabisthat's all I need it to do08:00
Dreamer3hmmm, i'm guessing that upgradming my startup-notification to install xfce won't break anything?08:00
mebaran151I usu need phone numbers and addresses08:00
lakinI had a question I wanted to ask when coming in here, but then Tempura's question caught my eye, and now I can't remember what I wanted to ask.08:00
randabislol08:00
Danko123456heh08:00
Lokkenlsmod|grep snd shows a bunch of things. Among them, my emu10k1, bt87x (TV Card) and a couple of other little unimportant things.08:00
Tempuralol sorry08:00
randabisLokken, maybe check the forums...I'm really not sure08:00
pussfellerkontact is alot more functional than evolution08:00
TempuraI'm going to delete windows and never look back08:01
LokkenThis should be a quick and easy one, while I'm here... turning off the grouping of similar windows?08:01
Danko123456Please read : http://pastebin.com/239524 , if you already have not and know anything about dual booting.08:01
lakinLokken: when you say "no sound" what exactly do you mean.  Do the sound programs "pretend" to play and you just don't get sound, or do they claim there isn't a device?08:01
randabisuntil you find something you want to do that only windows can...lolz08:01
Menaherannany other here understands what's happening with my thign?08:01
LokkenPretend to play, no output.08:01
Xappehmm, when installing games with cvscedega, what the h*ll do you do to be able to change cd?08:01
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lakinLokken: are the channels muted?08:01
LokkenNope.08:01
randabisI asked that :p08:01
LokkenChecked, double checked.08:01
Tempurayes08:01
jdubLokken: right click the little grippy to the left of the window buttons, click preferences08:02
lakinyou un-muted EVERY channel?08:02
Tempurathe epic chicken fight on family guy08:02
lakin(that one always gets me)08:02
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LokkenAh, missed that little thing jdub, stupid 1600x1200 res. :)08:02
LokkenThe output ones, yes, Lakin.08:02
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randabisLokken you could also try using alsamixer08:02
LokkenI did it w/ the alsamixer :)08:02
lakinyeah, I use alsamixer to make sure.08:02
redrumhey all08:02
Danko123456hi08:03
redrumI'm struggling to get my sound working...08:03
redrumI think the system just isn't choosing the right 'device' to play on08:03
lakinthe other thing that gets me is to make sure that the speakers are correctly plugged in.  (both fully plugged in, and plugged into the right connection)08:03
Tempurafamily guy is hilarious08:03
MenaherannI' sturggling to get my alaptop going...08:03
LokkenSound works under WinXP, Warty, FC3, etc.08:03
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lakinOh! my question was about getting a laptop to go to sleep.  With debian my laptop always tried to go to sleep when I closed it.  With hoary it doesn't even attempt it.08:04
redrumi can run 'aplay' and specify '-D plug:iec958' and i get sound, but not through anything else08:04
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randabislakin mine used to, but it stopped sleeping lately08:04
randabisnot sure08:04
randabiswith hoary08:04
redrumso how do i get the sound to play through that device all the time?08:04
Dreamer3wait....08:04
Dreamer3it's not irssi that's changed08:04
Dreamer3it's screen08:04
randabishah08:04
Dreamer3or ubuntu *light going on*08:04
Dreamer3hmmmmmmm08:05
lakinrandabis, yeah, but it's an IBM thing and I was pretty sure that the IBM sleep was mostly hardware implemented?08:05
randabisnot sure08:05
WoodstxkkHello.  Can ubuntu be installed on an old 333 mhz iMac successfully?08:05
randabisI'm just tellin' ya you aren't the only one :p08:05
Dreamer3lakin: that's because ubuntu is acpi... you were using apm with debian?08:05
lakinDreamer3, no, I think it was acpi with debian as well ( I rolled my own kernel ). but I'll check into that.08:05
Menaherannsooooooo... no hel[ here?08:05
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Dreamer3lakin: if you have acpid installed you can configure it to do something when you close the lid without a lot of effort08:06
Dreamer3lakin: i don't really use my laptop like most though so i don't worry about such things08:06
mebaran151what is vbetool08:06
Danko123456at this time, I believe you are out of luck, Menaherann, but do not feel you are the only one, for my issue has not been solved either.08:06
Tempurawell, I just deleted windows on my laptop08:06
Danko123456:)08:06
randabisdun dun dun08:06
Danko123456that is a very nice thing to do, Tempura.08:06
TempuraI'm not looking back08:07
lakinDreamer3, I'll look into it.08:07
Danko123456I am proud of you...08:07
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randabisno windows here either08:08
lakinServer running debian, laptop on ubuntu, desktop on ubuntu and macosx laptop for the girlfriend.08:08
randabiswell, my sis still dual boots and my stepbro and dad still use it08:08
TempuraI'm not saying anything about anyone else's computer though08:08
NuuBcrimsun: if you are around to see this, thank you for the help yesterday. i am now online via ubuntu08:08
Menaherannanother question totaly different08:08
redrumi cant figure out HOW to boot my windows partition anymore...08:09
randabisedit menu.lst08:09
Menaherannthis regarding configuring the internet in my desktop.08:09
Dreamer3anyone have any tips of keeping firefox loaded into memory all the time?08:09
randabisdunno08:09
randabisdidn't like opera? ;p08:09
lakinDreamer3, leave it open?08:09
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Dreamer3lakin: well, sometimes i close the last window... need a hidden window or something08:09
redrumwhere is menu.lst located?08:09
lakinDreamer3, I always have my gmail window open.08:10
lakinredrum, /boot/grub typically08:10
randabisi'm installing kde for the heck of it hah08:10
mebaran151randabis, no08:10
mebaran151NO08:10
Menaheranni connect via usb to the interent, how do i configure that in my ubuntu partiton?08:10
randabismy sessions selector is gonna be huge08:10
mebaran151ANOTHER ONE FALLS IN THE LINE OF DUTY08:10
NuuBis gcc part of the standard 1 cd install?08:10
snowblinkredrum: you can find files on your system by using locate08:10
Danko123456Does your network use DHCP, or PPPoE?08:10
mebaran151what do you have randabis08:10
Tempurakind of ironic that I'm talking about formatting my laptop and installing ubuntu08:10
mebaran151?08:10
randabisI didn't say I was gonna USE kde... :p08:10
mebaran151I have XFCE and Gnome installed08:11
Tempurawhen I'm using a windows pc to chat right now08:11
Menaherannis that with my, danko?08:11
randabisI have gnome, xfce, fluxbox, and now kde heh08:11
mebaran151XFCE is sexy08:11
Danko123456Yup.08:11
randabisI like choices08:11
Menaheranndhcp08:11
redrumhow do i search for a file on my hd?08:11
Danko123456well, its not working?08:11
randabislocate foo08:11
snowblinkredrum: you can find files on your system by using locate08:11
mebaran151I never like Fluxbox08:11
mebaran151I dont know why08:11
mebaran151XFCE seemed so much better08:11
Menaherannnot in ubuntu, i'm connected thrugh my win partition08:12
Danko123456its supposed to work on install.08:12
Danko123456DHCP is.08:12
Danko123456I am not sure.08:12
Menaherannvia usb?08:12
Danko123456sorry,08:12
Danko123456:)08:12
randabisMenaherann, it's a usb adapter?08:12
Menaherannyep08:12
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Menaherann2wire Pc Port08:13
redrumhow do i list my partitions so i can find out which one has windows on it?08:13
randabisMenaherann, you'll need to find out if it is supported in linux, look for a driver, compile it and install it08:13
Menaherann-piece of shit- but the only one o have right now108:13
Danko123456fdisk08:13
mebaran151cfdisk08:13
Danko123456fdisk /dev/hda08:13
mebaran151qtparted08:13
snowblinkredrum: sudo fdisk -l08:13
Danko123456either will do.08:13
mebaran151all these programs can do it08:13
randabisdepending on the chipset, ndiswrapper might work for it, or it might have a native linux driver08:14
Danko123456and yes, sudo.08:14
lakinlater guys.08:14
mebaran151qtparted or cfdisk might work out ok08:14
redrumthx all08:14
Menaherannok... i belive is not. at lest the website doesn't tell me anithing08:14
Danko123456yup.08:14
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randabisyou said you used mandrake before? did it ever work in mandrake?08:14
Menaherannwhen i go to the device manager is recognized though.08:14
mebaran151on ubuntu08:15
mebaran151can I reenable the root account08:15
randabissure you can08:15
mebaran151or is that going to be difficult08:15
mebaran151and not worth the time08:15
randabisdon't know why you'd want to though08:15
Agrajagyes, but there's really no reason to08:15
mebaran151yeah08:15
Agrajagsudo does the same thing su does, only better08:15
mebaran151I like sudo08:15
mebaran151a bit08:15
mebaran151but sometimes I pine for the good old days08:15
Agrajagsudo -s if you really need a plain root shell08:15
mebaran151with the wheel group08:15
mebaran151ah08:15
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mebaran151I know about sudo08:16
mebaran151but sometimes I feel it is overkill08:16
mebaran151su always served me fine08:16
Agrajagand using a root password isn't?08:16
mebaran151although being able to execute one command with sudo is nice08:16
mebaran151Agrajag08:16
Menaherannany alternatives?08:17
mebaran151I guess it all is08:17
mebaran151just pondering08:17
mebaran151see08:17
mebaran151I got my system all working08:17
Agrajagsudo lets you set finer permissions for root access08:17
mebaran151so now I have to go about hacking it to death08:17
Agrajagmuch nicer for multiuser systems08:17
Agrajagmostly unnecessary for a desktop though08:17
Danko123456Menaherann: You looked at the documentation on the website?08:18
Danko123456the ubuntu one...08:18
Menaherannnope.08:18
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Menaherannwhich docimentation do you mean, exactly/08:18
Danko123456Check this page out then, I am not sure if it helps.08:18
Menaherann??08:18
Danko123456http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HardwareSupportComponentsWiredNetworkCards/view?searchterm=usb08:18
Menaherannis it a problem with my network card or my adapter?08:19
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Danko123456I dont know...08:19
redrumcan someone show me what their menu.lst entry looks like for booting winxp?08:19
Danko123456Try this page for your laptop too.08:19
Danko123456http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops/view?searchterm=usb08:19
Danko123456http://rafb.net/paste/results/EZfRFd73.html redrum08:19
Tempurahow long does it normally take to install everything?08:19
Dreamer3is there a way to tell ubuntu not to load certail modules?08:20
Danko123456that is for when you want the windows to start automatically.08:20
Danko123456Unless you go to te grub menu,...08:20
Danko123456if you tell me which partition your windows is...08:20
Danko123456Ill tell you what yours should look like.08:20
TempuraI would have expected it to be done by now08:20
redrumsda108:20
Danko123456hmph.08:21
randabisbrb08:21
Danko123456then I am not sure.08:21
Danko123456Anyone else?08:21
redrumwhy is it different?08:21
Dreamer3anyone?08:22
Danko123456Basically, I think you would change the root line to...root(sd0,0)??08:22
Dreamer3i want to stop the OSS mixer from loading08:22
Danko123456cause it is on a different partition.08:22
redrumok08:22
redrumi'll give it a shot08:22
Danko123456well, I would wait if I were you.08:22
redrumthink i might screw everything up?08:23
Danko123456Cause the (sd0,0) is just a guess.08:23
Danko123456WEll, no, I dont think so.08:23
Danko123456Just maybe someone else tells you exactly what to do, I mean what the heck, try it...08:23
Danko123456:)08:23
redrumwell the ubuntu entries are all hd(0,2)... but the boot partition for ubuntu is sda308:24
Danko123456is the windows the fuirst partition?08:24
redrumyes08:24
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Danko123456then do .root(h0,0)08:24
Danko123456I mean it should work.08:24
redrumok i'll try08:25
Danko123456What do you have on the second partition?08:25
Menaherannwell, danko my network card is suppported and with flying collors....08:25
Danko123456Great!08:25
Danko123456:)08:25
redrumyou know what, i'm not too sure08:25
Menaherannhowvere my laptop is a satelite 1555cds08:26
Danko123456Maybe I just solved my own problem.08:26
Danko123456Ill brb, gotta try something.08:26
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Menaherannthere are othere toshiba satelites but not that one08:26
Menaherannhmmmm.....08:26
Danko123456try root(h0,0), then if that does not do it root(h0,1), redrum.08:26
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Menaherannbeacuse the thing is that my laptop  right now it has the pretty ubuntu screnn  asking me to log in.08:27
LokkenOkay, so fixed my sound problem from earlier.08:27
Danko123456Then it may not be supported, I really dont know much about this stuff, Menaherann, maybe you can try in a few hours here, some of  the guys are really good at this stuff.08:27
LokkenWas one little setting that I overlooked.08:27
FASTso ehhh... anyone know how to get dcc to work if you're behind a router?08:27
Tempurahow long does it usually take to install ubuntu?08:27
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Lokkenalsamixer was set to use digital out instead of analog.08:28
mebaran151dcc?08:28
mebaran151is that like distributed compiling08:28
mebaran151or something08:28
mebaran151it sounds like it08:28
randabisHAH08:28
randabisI booted kde08:28
FASTnope, just normal IRC dcc08:28
randabisand gdesklets works with it lol08:28
mebaran151oh08:29
NuuBdoes ubuntu have a download manager that can optimize for 56k and handle resumes incase of disconnect?08:29
Lokkenwget?08:29
mebaran151NuuB, wget08:29
mebaran151is awesome for everything under 2 gigs08:29
LokkenI need a good iTunes replacement.08:29
LokkenRhythmbox just doesn't cut it.08:30
NuuBeven on 56k which periodically disconnects (this would be good) - i'll look it up08:30
mebaran151Lokken, hahahahahahahahahahahahah08:30
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Tempurait's going to be hard learning how to use linux instead of windows08:30
Tempurabut I don't care08:30
snowblinkLokken: amarok?08:30
stuNNedNuuB: prozilla as well but servers usually don't like it08:31
LokkenPerhaps... Haven't checked that out yet.08:31
Tempuratoo late to change my mind now08:31
stuNNedNuuB: or downloader for x08:31
stuNNedLokken: muine is nice08:31
LokkenWhoa... I need to install KDE for Amarok :(08:31
LokkenThat in the repos?08:31
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alka_trashHey all  !08:32
mebaran151Lokken, everything is the repos08:32
mebaran151what do you need of itunes08:32
mebaran151though08:32
LokkenIn the AMD64 repos?08:32
mebaran151yep08:32
alka_trashHey you guys ( goonies )08:32
mebaran151I am on AMD6408:32
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redrumit worked08:32
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alka_trashskype?08:34
LokkenSomething that can handle my 12k songs.08:34
mebaran151I have you ever thought of using your fs to organize your music08:34
alka_trashanyone had any success with skype?08:34
mebaran151most people dont see how good folders and symlinks can be08:34
mebaran151heh08:34
LokkenOh, it's very organized on my drive....08:34
mebaran151but then again I like to do everything from the cli08:34
ProgramGeekHey... Does anyone here know anyways to make gnome or kde looks pretty?08:34
LokkenBut, I liked iTunes 'smart playlists'08:34
mebaran151oh08:34
mebaran151lokken08:34
alka_trashProgramGeek: yep08:34
mebaran151dll xmms08:34
mebaran151and get imms08:34
mebaran151does about the same thing08:34
mebaran151if your music is organized well08:34
mebaran151XMMS will serve you ok08:34
LokkenExcellent. Have XMMS already :)08:34
mebaran151imms08:34
mebaran151I think there is another that does the same thign08:34
LokkenYep.08:34
_4strOPlayer: ( xmms 1.2.10 ) Volume: ( 74% ) Title: ( /windows/musique2/a trier/[Nipponsei]  samurai champloo music record depature [Nujabes & fat jon] / Nujabes + Fat Jon - 5. mystline ) Time: ( 3:30/4:50 (72%) ) BitRate: ( 192 kbit/s - 44100 Hz )08:34
_4strO^^08:35
alka_trashProgramGeek: go to http://art.gnome.org/ and http://www.gnome-look.org/08:35
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LokkenHoary is so much more responsive than XP08:35
mebaran151gnomp3 is good if you are into a db of mp308:35
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alka_trashLokken: it does seem little snappier08:35
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Gatinhi08:35
LokkenHeh, just a little ;)08:35
redrumdoes anyone here run seti@home?08:35
Gatini am chilien08:35
stuNNedhi Gatin08:36
Gatincan you  writen good ?08:36
Gatinpleace08:36
mebaran151Lokken, so does imms do the job08:36
FASTwhy would anyone care about volume percent, track position, bitrate....08:37
mebaran151for smart playlists08:37
mebaran151the only thing I think XMMS should add08:37
alka_trashjust wondering abut xorg.conf file, does anyone have any suggesting on tweaking it, like what modules not to load08:37
LokkenIt might... haven't checked it out just yet.08:37
mebaran151is the ability to burn cd08:37
mebaran151audio08:37
mebaran151that sort of thing08:37
mebaran151it does everything else perfectly well08:37
mebaran151alka_trash, xorg.conf is set up for maximum use on default08:37
Danko123451 Gatin: can you  writen good ?- I dont think anyone understood that one..08:38
mebaran151so performance tweaks are hard to comeby08:38
mebaran151resolution tweeks maybe08:38
GatinI have a problem with the audio08:38
alka_trashokay08:38
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Gatindon't working the audio in the Totem08:38
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alka_trashbrb08:39
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mebaran151nighty night08:39
Gatinhelp me08:40
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Danko123451Have you looked at http://ubuntuguide.org ?08:40
Danko123451Gatin...08:40
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alka_trashback08:41
Gatinthank you Danko12345108:41
Gatini will seek in this page08:42
Danko123451heh08:42
Danko123451yw08:42
Danko123451Does it help?08:42
Danko123451all ruight, do so...that is as much as I know about that.08:42
alka_trashanyone tried ubuntu on a G3 mac? I have one at work that's just sitting on the self08:43
LokkenHeh, gnomp3 is crunching through my music collection.08:43
Menaherannwhat does it mean:  KDKSBENT : invalid argument failed to bind key 255 to value 875?08:44
Menaheranni get that everytime i boot08:44
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redrumcan anyone help me get my sound working?08:45
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Lokkenredrum, what sound card?08:47
NuuBok i am reading the --help details of wget. do i need to use --continue right away or only if --tries=0 and --retry-connrefused do not get the complete download?08:48
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mpqwoo08:49
mpqI'm free from windows08:49
Danko123451:)08:49
mpqnow I just need to know how to set up my wireless card to run in linux08:49
Danko123451on what?08:49
mpqI have a wireless card in my laptop08:50
Danko123451whats the card...08:50
Danko123451What model/brand.08:50
mpqI don't know how to find out08:50
Danko123451I would like to tell you, but...08:50
Danko123451Maybe look at your receipt.08:50
mpqit came with the computer08:51
mpqit's built in08:51
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Danko123451k later, guys, dont feel bad Im leaving, mpq, I didnt know how to fix it anyhow.08:51
alka_trashmpq: try a command line lspci08:51
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mpqah, that's it08:51
mpqit's broadcom08:51
alka_trashhmmm08:52
alka_trashI think that you have to use the ndiswrapper with that one08:52
mpqthe button that turns on the card doesn't do anything in linux08:52
alka_trashyep, you need to have the drive control the device and then it should work08:53
mpqhow do I do that?08:53
redrumcan someone tell me how to get my dang sound to work properly08:53
Anubisdeb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ stable main08:53
AnubisCan I use this iwht Hoary?^^^^08:53
alka_trashgo to ndiswrapper's homepage and see if they support it08:53
Anubisredrum, gotta be more specific08:53
redrumi have sound if I type 'aplay -D plug:iec958 foo.wav', but not when i try it through any media programs08:54
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redrumit's like this iec958 device is what it needs to play the sound through, but doesn't do it by default...08:54
guimhi all08:54
guimwhat is hoary exactly?08:54
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alka_trashguim: it the unstable version of ubuntu08:55
guimok08:55
lakinThe good news is that sleep seems to be working.08:55
guimthank you08:55
guimis it possible to download and test it yet?08:56
alka_trashit's a little buggy but it has the latest she-ought08:56
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alka_trashguim: ye[08:56
guimthe thing is that CD I got don't work on my pc08:56
alka_trashhmm08:57
redrumi had a problem installing hoary from the downloaded CD also08:57
guimsome people already tried to help here (and thankyou again) but there is problem08:57
alka_trashguim: try this one08:57
alka_trashguim: ftp://cdimage.ubuntulinux.org/cdimage/releases/hoary/array-4/hoary-install-i386.iso08:57
guimthank you08:58
alka_trashit's hoary install08:58
redrumis that a new iso?08:58
alka_trashor even this one, it's a live cd08:58
alka_trashftp://cdimage.ubuntulinux.org/cdimage/releases/hoary/array-4/hoary-live-i386.iso08:58
redrumi just installed the warty version, then upgraded08:58
alka_trashpretty much the same thing08:58
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alka_trashredrum: no, it just a snapshot of current development08:59
guimhere is my problem : isolinux don't detect my keyboard08:59
NuuBok i am reading the --help details of wget. do i need to use --continue right away or only if --tries=0 and --retry-connrefused do not get the complete download?09:00
alka_trashguim: usb keyboard?09:00
guimthe "sarge" installer do exactly the same09:00
guimno, not usb09:00
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bob2NuuB: the latter09:00
guimthe "num lock" light don't even change, if you see what i mean09:00
alka_trashwhat kind of comptuer?09:01
guimamd athlon 1600 xp09:01
guimddr26609:01
NuuBbob2: thank you09:01
guimi found someone xho reported a bug close to this on the website09:01
redrumhow/where do i specify which default sound device i want the OS to use?09:01
guimbut i did'nt really understood the message09:02
alka_trashif you have the bandwidth I would download the latest delvelop or get a usb keyboard09:02
guimi am downloading it09:02
alka_trashkewl09:03
guimbut i have no usb keyboard09:03
guimyou think a usb keyboard will solve this?09:03
alka_trashmaybe, install with apci turned off  :/09:03
guimhow do i do that?09:03
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guimwhat is apci?09:03
alka_trashadvance power control i** something09:04
guimmust be set in bios?09:04
alka_trashcan you get into your bios with your keyboard?09:04
guimyes09:04
guimi can09:04
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alka_trashwhen you put the ubuntu cd in, press F1 or something like that go to expert and you should have an option to install without apci09:05
alka_trashhell, how old is your bios?09:05
kniteshadehow come i cant see kernel-image-2.6.9.1-686 when i do an apt-cache search - ive changed all the 'warty' to 'howary' in the packages.list file - and ran apt-get update, but it still isn't htere ?09:05
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guimi don't know09:06
guimi never changed it i think09:06
guim<alka_trash> when you put the ubuntu cd in, press F1 or something like that go to expert and you should have an option to install without apci09:07
guimbut i think i don't have any moment to do that09:07
guimcause the keyboard never start when the pc loads the CD09:07
guimso pressing F1 is nerver "seen"09:08
alka_trashoops09:08
guim:)09:08
alka_trashthis is like the Microsoft error,  Keyboard error - Press F1 to continue09:08
alka_trash:009:08
guimso i can't install without apci09:08
alka_trash:)09:08
guimyes :))09:08
alka_trashdownload09:09
alka_trashmaybe check your bios date too09:09
guimi should get to the latest bios ?09:09
alka_trashI personall would try the latest CD first09:09
guimyes09:10
alka_trashI once hosed a computer while updating the bios09:10
guim:/09:10
guimdangerous operation09:10
alka_trashyep09:10
alka_trashwhat type of board?09:10
guimif you are not sure of what you are doing09:10
guimMSI k709:10
guim2.009:10
guimsomething like that09:11
alka_trashThose are great09:11
NuuBhow do i know if wget is working? i thought it would spit out a detail of it's activity09:11
guimwith sounf but no etho on it09:11
guimsound but no ethernet09:11
alka_trashI hate to say it, but you can update your bios from windows with live-bios09:11
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guimi added an ethernet card on it09:11
guimok thanks09:12
mpqI'm starting to get the hang of this09:12
alka_trashcheck out msi's site09:12
guimyes09:12
alka_trashnice!, check out this arstechnica gave ubuntu two awards http://arstechnica.com/columns/linux/linux-20050102.ars09:13
alka_trashBest community and Distribution of the year09:13
kniteshadeanyone know how i can get kernel-image-2.6.9 ?  - its not in apt-cache..09:14
kniteshadekernel-tree and kernel-source are, but i dont think they're the ones i need...09:15
alka_trashkniteshade: http://ftp.nluug.nl/ftp/pub/os/Linux/distr/ubuntu/pool/universe/k/09:15
alka_trashgoogled it09:15
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alka_trashkniteshade:  can't say that it's legit though09:16
alka_trashkniteshade:  download that turkey and dpkg -i package.deb09:16
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ZimbabweHow I can install Ubuntu as text version09:17
ZimbabweI mean, not graphical09:17
jdubZimbabwe: warty or hoary?09:18
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alka_trashZimbabwe: when you boot from the install cd, when it prompt you to hit enter type: expert09:18
jdubZimbabwe: on warty, boot the installer with 'custom'; on hoary, boot the installer with 'server'09:18
jdubdo *not* use 'expert'09:18
jdubthat does a completely different thing09:18
jduband is very annoying09:18
alka_trashoh09:18
alka_trashoops09:19
ZimbabweHmm09:19
alka_trashminimal?09:19
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cthulfuegoZimbabwe: Note that you'll probably still need additional drivers for the wifi,09:19
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redrumok i made some headway to getting my sound working09:20
ZimbabweHow I can "boot installer with 'custom'" ?09:20
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jdubZimbabwe: type custom at the installer boot prompt09:21
redrumI installed xmms.  Then through preferences I changed the output plugin to use ALSA output plugin instead of OSS Driver09:21
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redrumthat got me sound09:21
redrumnow can someone give me a push in the right direction?09:21
ZimbabweThen when it says "Press enter to boot", then I should write "custom" and press enter+09:21
Zimbabwe?09:21
jdubZimbabwe: yes09:22
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ZimbabweIs that installer same installer as normal?09:22
jdubyes09:22
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jdubit just installs the base system09:22
jduband doesn't drill holes in your head with silly questions09:23
ZimbabweOk09:23
|QuaD-is there a way to get a transcript of the ubuntu meetings?09:23
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jdub|QuaD-: minutes are always announced on -news09:23
dudhmm, my delete key seems to malfunction after a hoary upgrade yesterday... isnt that odd09:23
mlambiejdub: do you know anything about the ubuntu conference prior to LCA?09:24
|QuaD-jdub: the mailing list?09:24
jdubmlambie: it will be after lca, in sydney.09:24
jdub|QuaD-: yes09:24
jdubmlambie: proper announcement soonish09:24
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ZimbabweWhat is different by 4.10 and warty?09:25
mlambiejdub: wicked, because i'm planning time off for LCA and wanted to squeeze some ubuntu love in too :)09:25
|QuaD-jdub: ok... are they minutes or a transcript?09:25
jdubmlambie: http://www.ubuntu.com/wiki/UbuntuDownUnder09:25
jdub|QuaD-: both, usually09:25
mpqwhat do I use to view animated .gif files?09:25
jdubZimbabwe: warty warthog is the codename for Ubuntu 4.1009:25
|QuaD-nice :)09:25
ZimbabweIjj09:25
mlambiejdub: ace, thanks. i had searched the wiki earlier and not found anything.09:26
|QuaD-another conference! too bad it has to be durring finals09:26
|QuaD-lol09:26
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mpqI don't know what to use to view animated gifs09:26
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jdubmpq: your browser...09:27
mpqis that it?09:27
jdubmlambie: the main search thingy doesn't find wikis based on the page title ;)09:27
jdubmpq: i'm sure there are plenty of other things, but i'm suggesting the easiest09:28
mpqwhat about flash?09:28
mpqtotem doesn't work09:29
jdubagain, use firefox, it'll help you install a flashplayer when you use it09:29
mlambiecan anyone recommend a package that does a full disk image? ideally it would save the image to a samba server and include a bootable CD, or similar solution. I want to be able to "save" my system in its current state, mess and break things, then return it to what I have now.09:29
mlambiethis machine only has a single disk, so it needs to be able to dump over the network.09:30
|QuaD-hmm, debating... should i run a groupware server or just use imap/ldap/webdav?09:30
mpqit didn't09:30
mpqI tried to open a flash file09:30
mpqand firefox wanted me to open totem09:30
jdubgo to a webpage that requires flash09:30
jdubthat'll do the plugin stuff09:31
TheMusomlambie: You could use partimage to image the parition where you want, an dthen use a live CD with partimage to restore it.09:31
jdubif firefox tries to open totem to view a flash file, that's a bug, please file it09:31
mpqit's not trying to download the plugin at all09:31
mlambieTheMuso: thanks for the tip. do you know if that will that save to network storage?09:31
randabisah, good ol' xfce09:31
TheMusomlambie: If you mount the storage first, and then save the file there, it will.09:32
mlambieofcourse. thanks09:32
mpqfirefox isn't even trying to download the flash plugin09:32
mpqis anyone else having trouble viewing flash in firefox?09:33
randabisyou're probably using warty09:33
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mpqno wonder, I'm not even on 1.009:33
randabisyeah, you used ubuntu warty...it's aging :/ still great though09:34
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randabisyou'll need to download the flash plugin from macromedia and install it manually09:34
mpqfirst I'm upgrading to firefox 1.009:34
Dreamer3boy, gnome seems really flakey09:35
randabisheh09:35
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TheMusoDreamer3: In warty or Hoary?09:35
ZimbabweI cant connect with putty to my Ubuntu which is not graphical system?09:35
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jdubZimbabwe: install openssh-server09:36
Dreamer3TheMuso: warty, seems i change a few things (icons, backgrounds, themes) and suddenly i'm having to restart (nautilus, panel, etc) to see any change... this just stop working right09:36
TheMusoAh right.09:36
Dreamer3TheMuso: earliers themes weren't changing (restart gnome)... then the background wouldn't take (restart nautilus)09:36
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mpqBurger King commercials are so stupid09:36
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jdubDreamer3: there was a lingering, incredibly difficult to find gconf bug that has very recently been fixed which caused that to happen09:36
jdubDreamer3: it has been around for a *long* time09:37
Dreamer3jdub: i see09:37
jdub(not yet in hoary, i don't believe)09:37
jdubneed a gconf release09:37
Dreamer3so no hope for me :)09:37
ZimbabweJust "install openssh-server" ?09:37
jdubit's intermittent09:37
jdubZimbabwe: sudo apt-get install openssh-server09:37
jdubactually, perhaps the fix was in the last release of gconf09:38
ZimbabweNow it works :)09:38
Dreamer3ok09:39
Dreamer3how can i make Window-1 a shortcut... it keeps taking as soon as i hit the window key and won't let me make it a combo09:39
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Dreamer3i know i had this on debian, because i used window-1, window-2, etc to get to workspace09:40
randabisbah this torrent sucks :/09:40
randabisneeds SEEDS09:40
randabisit has one :/09:40
bob2make the window key a modifier09:40
bob2e.g. meta09:40
bob2in the gnome keyboard thing09:40
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ubuntuhello09:40
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butthello09:41
Dreamer3bob2: how? i'm in the keyboard dialog now09:41
ubuntui was wondering if anyone can help me, I seem to not be able to get my mouse working after install of ubuntu09:41
bob2*shrug*, read all the options09:41
buttactually i was having that same problem :|09:41
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ubuntucan someone help me? i can't seem to be able to run xorg or anything to set up my mouse09:43
ubuntuhow do i run xorg command line?09:43
Dreamer3bob2: ok, is there a way to make window pop up the gnome menu?09:44
Dreamer3bob2: or do i do that once i set it up as meta?09:44
Dreamer3hmmm09:44
bob2I don't know what that first sentence meant09:44
Dreamer3i want the windows key to pop up the gnome menu as well as be usable in shortcuts09:45
ZimbabweI cant still connect to my ubuntu09:47
FASTanyone have any idea how to modify the mount settings for hotplug devices? (firewire hard drives..)09:47
FASTautomount, that is09:47
butt..........lol more people more problemS :)09:48
ZimbabweIt just says: "connectiong timed out"09:48
bob2FAST: pmount is what you need to configure09:48
buttstill can't figure out how to 1) run xorg command line and not gui, and 2) get my mouse working :(09:48
bob21) makes no sense09:48
bob22) is a bug if it didn't happen automagically09:48
buttbob2: how do i get it workin then?09:49
bob2fix it manually, I suppose09:49
bob2you're certainly more likely to get an answer on the list, tho09:49
FASTbob2, how do i go about doing that?  is there some kind of config file somewhere to edit?09:49
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butti looked on forums didn't see anything09:50
butti see lots of people who have this problem09:50
bob2yes, that's the forums for you09:50
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buttif i can get it done, ill post a nice step by step..09:50
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jdubbutt: run 'X'09:50
buttk, how?09:51
infoehi09:51
buttexec x?09:51
infoeshould i move to ubuntu from gentoo?09:51
buttjdub: im very new to linux.. i dunno where x is and 2nd how to run it09:51
bob2butt: just run the command 'X'09:51
bob2infoe: of course.09:52
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infoelol09:52
infoebob2: why?09:52
bob2because then you'll be using ubuntu, not gentoo09:52
buttbash:    x: command not found09:52
bob2which is always a good thing09:52
infoei mean to say, what is the most benificial aspect of ubuntu?09:52
bob2butt: X09:52
lithi_hey, new ubuntu user here, I wanted to know why I cant su to root using bash its giving me passwd errors yet I can sudo just fine09:52
jdublithi_: www.ubuntu.com/wiki/RootSudo09:53
infoegentoo is a pretty good distro in contrast to the others i've used09:53
buttk, just X then ill try it thanks for helping me09:53
infoelithi: are you in the wheel user group?09:53
bob2infoe: dude, this is not gentoo09:53
infoemy bad09:53
bob2lithi_: sudo -s09:54
bob2and it's quite amusing gentoo uses the wheel group09:54
bob2I didn't htink anyone did anymore09:54
infoebsd does09:54
bob2(nice rant in the 'su' infor page)09:54
infoewoah...09:54
infoeubuntu == cock central09:54
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bob2huh?09:54
lithi_jdub: Isint that just handy :) Thanks09:54
FASTbob2, could you point me in the right direction for editing pmount settings, etc?09:56
bob2FAST: I'm not sure where it's stored, pitti wrote it, tho09:57
ZimbabweI have put like this: "sudo apt-get install openssh-server" and then I try to connect to my ubuntu with putty, but putty only says: "Connection timed out", why+09:57
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pittiFAST: which settings?09:57
FASTpitti?09:57
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FASToh09:57
pittiFAST: pmount does not have a configuration file09:57
calamarihow many case fans will I need for a 2.4 GHz p4 w/ stock cpu fan?09:58
FASTpitti, im looking to change the settings that automatically mount an external firewire hard drive.09:58
pittiFAST: what's wrong with it?09:58
bob2Zimbabwe: sounds like a network problem09:58
ZimbabweBut09:58
ZimbabweNo09:58
bob2pitti: he/she wants to mount it asyn or such09:58
pittiFAST: ah, you are using warty?09:59
FASTwould like to change the permissions and name (not sda1), etc when it is plugged in09:59
bob2Zimbabwe: well, it is a network problem09:59
FASTyes09:59
FASTwarty09:59
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ZimbabweI have downloaded psybnc software from internet on that server, and i'm Ircing now with computer which have putty09:59
pittiFAST: hoary has lots of improvements with this09:59
bob2Zimbabwe: either on your ubuntu machine o ron the machines in front of it09:59
FASTsuch as>09:59
FAST?09:59
pittiFAST: it will automatically mount your hd "async" (i. e. faaast) and give it a proper name09:59
FASTwhat about file permissions?09:59
pittiFAST: if you want this now, you need pmount, hal, and gnome-volume-manager from hoary09:59
FASTi can use them on warty?10:00
pittiFAST: what's wrong with the permissions?10:00
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pittiFAST: you have to do a partial upgrade; I never tried this, though10:00
pittiFAST: however, some guys did Warty backports of recent hoary software10:00
FASTto be honest, i dont think there is anything wrong. but i ran into a problem when trying to share a subfolder on external firewire drive through samba, and that's where i left off10:00
ZimbabweWell, when i'm trying to "make menuconfig" ubuntu says: "Make no such bash" or something, whats wrong?10:01
FASThad to do with not being able to access folders10:01
FASTthe X execute permission wasn't set or some odd10:01
bob2Zimbabwe: install build-essential and libncurses5-dev10:01
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ZimbabweJust like that, to console: "install build-essential" ?10:01
pittiFAST: yes, warty does not allow to execute files on USB/FireWire devices by default10:02
FASTthis is what im trying to change, but because it is a fat32 formatted drive, i am unable to set permissions for it10:02
FASTthat's what i am told10:02
FASTthough i have been able to add an entry in fstab with options set, but this is not what id like, and i think it still didn't work properly10:03
bob2Zimbabwe: no, they're packages ytou install10:03
bob2Zimbabwe: however you normlly install packages10:03
ZimbabweSo what i should do?10:03
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bob2install them10:04
bob2however you normally install packages10:04
ZimbabweHow?10:04
bob2if you haven't installed any before, you should just say that10:04
bob2since it's annoying to guess what you don't know10:04
ZimbabweWell how I install those?10:05
bob2wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto10:05
ZimbabweI dont have graphical ubutu10:05
bob2cool10:06
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bob2then use apt-get10:06
ZimbabweHow? :D10:06
Biggleztype man apt-get10:06
Dreamer3when i log into gdm there are clicks while the sound is playing... i can play it myself from a terminal with no problems... any idea how to eliminate teh clicks?10:06
bob2sudo apt-get install build-essential libncurses5-dev10:06
Zimbabwe"sudo apt-get install build-essential" <- Like that?10:07
bob2no10:07
bob2like what I said10:07
FASTpitti, any suggestions?10:07
bob2you need libncurses5-dev as well if you want to use menuconfig10:07
Zimbabwesudo apt-get install libncurses5-dev ?10:07
pittiFAST: in fact, addding an fstab entry is the only easy and sane way to alter the settings in Warty10:07
bob219:06:53           bob2 | sudo apt-get install build-essential libncurses5-dev10:08
ZimbabweOk...10:08
pittiFAST: you must only make sure that the drive is permanently connected10:08
pittiFAST: otherwise it could get another name (sdb instead of sda, or so)10:08
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FASTyeah i experienced that before10:08
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lithi_what username / password do I use to login to cups via web interface? root / my user accuont dont work10:09
SchaapHi, i just replaced a vga card but the resolution i wa working in, is not supported by de new one, how do i reset the resolution Gnome was working in ?10:09
bob2lithi_: you don't, use the one in the computer menu10:09
Agabushey i just installed a hoary hedgehog but i don't believe i was asked to put in a root password. is there a default one?10:09
bob2Agabus: please read the FAQ10:10
Agabusk10:10
bob2Agabus: or the text it printed out during the install about how there is no root account10:10
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jdubAgabus: www.ubuntu.com/wiki/RootSudo10:10
lithi_bob2: Im sorry where?10:10
Agabusk cheers man10:11
SchaapGnome, resolution setting from command line10:11
Schaapanyone?10:11
jdubSchaap: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf on hoary10:11
lithi_bob2: Ohhh Ok10:11
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FASTis hoary (array-4?) a not-so-stable / not-so-complete distro at this point? any real reason to switch?10:12
Agabuscould anyone give me a link to an ftp where i can get hoary the latest array?10:13
FASThttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/hoary/array-4/10:13
BigglezAnyone know how to open a Kword doc in OO Writer? Or to convert one to a txt file say?10:13
Butt~[ bob2 ] ~ ok, i just did the X thing and it didn't work10:13
bob2cool10:13
bob2but that's how you run X from the command line10:13
Buttbob2 it seemed to have frozen in some screen thats blank10:13
Butt:(10:13
Butt [] uGhz [O] u+ [L] o , i had to do this10:14
Buttexec /usr/X11R6/bin/X10:14
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Butt~[ bob2 ] ~ anything?10:14
Schaapjdub, its the old warty version10:14
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Woodstokkhello10:14
jdubSchaap: /etc/X11/XF86Config-410:14
Schaapbut if it is xorg, im sure ill be able to find it :)10:15
bob2it's really annoying that your IRC client is putting crap around people's nicks10:15
Schaapcheers :)10:15
WoodstokkI'm thinking about trying Ubuntu...10:15
Buttsorry... ill stop the script10:15
SchaapCheers jdub10:15
Butt~[ bob2 ] ~ better?10:15
Buttshit10:15
Woodstokkcan it be installed on an older imac?10:15
Woodstokklike a 333 mhz?10:16
randabis-laptopprobably10:16
BigglezWoodstokk - all I know about mac+linux is Yellow Dog10:16
bob2Woodstokk: yes10:16
bob2gnome likes lots of ram, tho10:16
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BigglezAnyone know how to open a Kword doc in OO Writer? Or to convert one to a txt file say?10:17
WoodstokkI just installed yellowdog a few weeks ago and am taking more of a liking to trying a couple distros before I decide for sure10:17
jdubWoodstokk: as long as you have 192MB or more, it'll be fine.10:17
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Butt bob2 10:17
Woodstokkthanks10:17
Butteh thats better.........10:17
Buttlol10:17
bob2now it's some sort of non-ascii crap10:17
bob2which is even more annoying10:18
randabis-laptopif you have less ram than that, you might wanna try some of the lighter environments like xfce or fluxbox10:18
Buttyah dunno how to kill it any more than that.10:18
Buttbob2 : sorry10:18
FASTtheres nothing fancy schmancy in the array-4 installation right? everything is nice and straight forward, ya?10:18
bob2regardless, it's best to ask on the list, including the output of "dmesg", "lspci", "lspci -n" and "lsmod" and hopefully our lovely young X maintainer will know the solution10:18
Woodstokkis that on the ubuntu CD?10:18
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bob2Butt: use a less crap client, I guess10:18
Buttbob2 : guess so.10:19
randabis-laptopWoodstokk, probably not, but you can download them through the ubuntu repositories afterward10:19
Buttbob2 : ive posted on the forums many times no one responds10:19
bob2Butt: forums != list10:19
Buttoh10:19
Buttbob2 : whats list then?10:19
bob2the user list in the topic10:19
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FASTis there a website describing what array-4 is all about?10:21
bob2?10:21
bob2it's test cd 4 for hoary10:21
FASTso basically its for people that want to test out features / report bugs / etc ?10:22
bob2of the installer? yes.10:22
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TCSCushingI am on an MSWXP computer.  How would I get a text file to the Ubuntu WIKI folks?10:26
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bob2er, why not just edit the wiki yourself?10:27
TCSCushingWhere to start?10:27
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dudjust register an account, and read the howto for editing the wiki, and start editing :)10:28
Buttbob2 : sent off an email i guess and hope for a reply, how long usually ?10:29
TCSCushingThanks for the replies, and sorry to be dumb... I registered, I read a lot, don't know how to get a message to WIKI folks.10:30
bob2there is no "wiki folks"10:30
bob2anyone can edit it10:30
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bob2Dark_Kyo: can you turn that off please?10:40
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siridhardoes Ubuntu create and resize partitions in a windows XP computer w/o loss of data?10:43
bob2no10:43
bob2unless you have spare space already10:43
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siridharI have two partitions. 1) C:\ is data partition (NTFS) 2) D:\ has windows XP10:44
Agabusin the FAQ it says "A default Ubuntu desktop installation includes a full-featured Python development environment, so if you want to develop in Python, you should already have everything you need." but where/what is the development environment called?10:44
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Agabusanyone?10:46
butthey10:46
buttbob2: im in ubuntu and workin :)10:46
buttfucking ps/2 port error10:46
buttcommon10:46
Agabusin the FAQ it says "A default Ubuntu desktop installation includes a full-featured Python development environment, so if you want to develop in Python, you should already have everything you need." but where/what is the development environment called?10:46
butty couldn't u just tell me :\10:46
bob2Agabus: please stop repeating over and over10:47
bob2it includes the python interpreter and a ton of libraries10:47
bob2if you're looking for an IDE, there are a few to choose from, but non (aside from emacs) installed by default10:47
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bob2butt: right, we delieberately holding out on you10:47
Agabusbob2 - oh ok10:48
Agabusbob2 - could u name a few IDEs for python for me?10:48
bob2I only use emacs10:48
Agabusyeh10:48
Agabusactually i mean for developing gtk apps10:48
Agabusglade perhaps?10:48
bob2that's not an IDEA10:48
bob2er, IDE10:49
bob2it's a GUI designer10:49
Agabusyeh, but an ide can include a gui designer sometimes10:49
bob2ok10:49
siimoi use glade with java-gnome10:49
dud"eric3 is a full featured Python IDE that is written in PyQt using the QScintilla editor widget."10:50
Agabusdud - so that has a gui designer?10:50
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jdubAgabus: gazpacho is a great gui designer for gnome apps, and it's written in python10:51
dud"Boa Constructor is a cross platform Python IDE and wxPython GUI Builder."10:51
Agabusboa contructor looks alright10:53
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dudthere's many python IDE's look here for instance http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?PythonIde :o10:53
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buttbob2: how come numlock does not stay on?10:55
siimobutt: read about numlockx10:56
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buttsiimo: k wherE?10:57
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cthulfuegoYes, speaking off that 100Mb of python shit I don't want...10:58
jatzquery guys, prepping some exams, now im playing around with raid 5, software raid 5, best way to test the hot spares delete a partition thats in use by the array?10:58
siimogoogle man page of numlockx10:58
cthulfuegojatz: or unplug the drive <heh> That's how I test hw raid setups.10:59
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jatzcthulfuego, bit hard to unplug when multiple partitions in use by the array are on the one disk :P, i know its bad form to do it, but its just for practise11:00
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cthulfuegojatz: start using 'dd' to move data from /dev/urandom to the partition, see what happens.11:00
buttwhere do i look for numlockx??11:01
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cthulfuegojatz: The kernel won't notice the partition missing until after a reboot, if you simply delete it with fdisk.11:01
jatzcheers11:02
Examanceris there any advantage to installing PHP/Apache/MySQL through the package manager or apt-get as apposed to using something like LAMPP that does all 3 (along with mod_perl, mod_ssl, and other stuff) preconfigured?11:03
jatzif you dont you apt-get/synaptic the packages wont show up as being installed11:04
jatzso have to update manually.11:04
jatzand any dependancy problems you will have to resolve manually11:04
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Examancergood to know. didn't really think of that11:05
jdubExamancer: security support11:05
Examancersecurity support?11:05
ExamancerLAMPP has a secure mode...11:05
jdubExamancer: as in distribution security updates11:06
Examancercyrix22811:07
Examanceroops11:07
Examancerwrong window11:07
Examancerbut thanks for the insight jdub11:07
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Examancermainly did LAMPP cause synaptic doesn't have PHP5 yet11:10
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Examancerand then I don't have to worry about config11:10
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lucifer4u_workhello friends can anybody tell me what is the kernel branch is used in default in ubuntu 2.4 or 2.6 ?11:11
MeMa|Sorcerer2.611:11
lucifer4u_workthank you11:12
buttk here is a basic question from a newbie to linux. Lets say i want to install TEAMSPEAK.. how do i install a program like this in LINUX?11:13
blah09i think for that one all you have to do is extract and run from the folder, im not 100% sure though11:14
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MeMa|Sorcererextract the archive and run setup.sh11:15
buttblah09 : i tried that, didn't work, was an .sh file and in the readme said just run that file. i didn't that and it didn't seem to do anything11:15
buttthe .sh file did'nt do anythin.....11:15
blah09whats it called?11:16
blah09try ./filename11:16
jatzopen a root terminal, change dir to the unpacked teamspeak dir then ./install.sh typically11:16
buttits setup.sh11:16
jatztheh ./setup.sh11:16
jatzthen11:16
buttk11:17
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buttjatz, thanks that worked11:17
butthope blah got that and sorcerer...11:17
blah09you dont have to run it as root...11:18
jatzyou dont with ubuntu?11:18
jatzjust installs into the user home dir does it?11:18
buttinstalled in to obt11:18
blah09as root itll go to opt11:18
dudbtw Examancer, concering xampp, or lampp as you call it... its incredibly unsecure to run... its *strictly* meant for developing enviroments11:19
jatzblah09, but running the install as a normal user wont allow rw access to /opt, unless theres something different with the way ubuntu is setup?11:19
Examancerthats what i'm using it for dud, and the docs clearly say that as well... though the docs also tell you what you need to do if you do decide to use it in a live environment11:19
blah09no youre right11:20
buttso i shouldn't have installed to opt?11:20
buttinstall to my home dir?11:20
blah09either works fine11:20
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buttoh, cause it didn't make a menu item anywhere11:20
dudwell, just thought i'd specify it anyhow.. as some ubuntu users seems to have a nack for not reading documentation hehe :P11:20
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blah09try running /opt/TeamSpeak2RC2/Teamspeak11:20
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blah09anyone on a laptop?11:21
blah09whenever i unplug my headphones now, the builtin speakers dont come on anymore11:22
jatzthen as root user ln -s /opt/teamspeakdir/teamspeak /usr/bin/teamspeak   after you do that you can press alt-F2 and enter teamspeak to launch the app11:22
tremori'm on a laptop11:22
blah09do you have that problem?11:23
buttblah09 : it said this Session management error: Authentication Rejected, reason: None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authenitcation failed11:23
buttbut then Teamspeak booted up11:23
tremorblah09: that isn't normally software related11:24
tremoras far as i know11:24
tremorand no, i don't have that problem11:24
blah09thats what i thought.. =/11:25
buttjatz, thats awesome the alt-f2, thanks man11:25
buttjatz: but it didn't boot hte program :\11:26
jatzauthentication error?11:26
buttno didn't do nothing after i did alt-f211:27
butti hit run and nothing happns.11:27
butt ln -s /opt/TeamSpeak2RC2/TeamSpeak /usr/bin/TeamSpeak11:28
jatzwhat command did you enter at the command line, the one that started with ln11:28
jatzk11:28
butt^ what i typed word for word11:28
jatzin the alt-f2 windows you type TeamSpeak  .. caps included?11:28
buttyes11:29
butti type Te and TeamSpeak pops up11:29
buttthen i go to Run11:29
jatzok, open a terminal up, type ls /opt11:29
buttits not under the list of known applications11:29
jatzwhat does the ls return?11:29
buttls /opt11:29
buttTeamSpeak2RC211:29
jatzok open the alt-f2 prompt type /opt/TeamSpeak2RC2/TeamSpeak11:30
jatzdoes it run when you do it that way?11:30
buttnope same thing11:30
buttdoes nothing11:30
butt:(11:30
jatzdid it run the first time you tried it?11:31
buttit ran when i did it in console11:31
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jatzrun ls -la /usr/bin | grep TeamSpeak11:32
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butt run ls -la /usr/bin | grep TeamSpeak11:33
buttbash: run: command not found11:33
robstahi11:33
buttsup robsta11:33
jatzlol sorry ignore the run bit, start with ls11:34
robstaupgraded to warty11:34
buttwarty or hoary?11:34
robsta... now gnome isn't launching any more11:34
robstagdm goes away and all that's left is "chocolate" background11:35
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blah09ubuntuforums are slooow =/11:35
robstaalso .xsession-errors don't tell anything special11:36
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buttubuntu forums suck :\11:36
buttnoone seems to help on them11:36
butti try but i know very very little11:36
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buttdoh i killed the mulitiple desktop thing how do i get it back?11:38
Examancerthe little widget on the taskbar?11:39
buttyah11:39
jdubbutt: right click on the panel, add to panel..., choose workspace switcher11:39
Examancerdamn... beat me to it11:39
buttjdub thanks11:40
buttthanks examancer :)11:40
butti like what im seeing11:43
buttjust having trouble with the whole install thing11:44
buttinstalled teamspeak11:44
buttbut it didn't add a menu item anywhere11:44
buttnor does it load anymore11:44
buttanyways guess its time for bed11:45
buttlater guys n gals  and thanks for the help11:45
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lx_heya, If openoffice won't open a word document that i need to edit, what other program should i use?11:50
dudabiword11:50
lx_k11:50
lx_is it in the repositories?11:50
haggailx_: openoffice.org211:50
robstalx_: yes11:51
robstabut an old version11:51
robstapresuming you're using hoary11:52
lx_i am using warty11:52
robstagood for you11:52
robsta;-)11:52
robstalx_ : please log the file in abiword's bugzilla if it fails to open it11:53
robstathx11:53
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lx_can i use openoffice.org2 work in warty?11:54
lx_i mean does it work, or can i use it11:54
haggailx_: well, you can't install the package from universe, but you could try my vanilla .debs11:55
robstahaggai: do you have ppc debs as well?11:56
lx_haggai: what is that?  my vanilla .debs?11:56
haggailx_: plain, unpatched but packaged for debian11:56
haggai  deb http://people.debian.org/~halls/openoffice/test/ooo1.9-java /11:56
lx_ahh k11:56
haggailx_: I haven't tested against warty but the dependencies aren't very heavy so there is a fair chance it will work11:57
haggailx_: you'll need -core and -writer11:57
Examancerhow do i make an alias permanent?11:57
haggaiExamancer: active ~/.bashrc and add it there (see ~/.bash_profile)11:58
dudExamancer, add it in /etc/bash.bashrc11:58
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lx_haggai: looking into it, thanks11:59
dudalthough, using bash.bashrc will make it work for all users that uses bash11:59
lx_haggai: only core and writer?11:59
haggailx_: yes that will give you .doc import capability, I would try installing just those two to begin with - you can add the rest later if it works12:00
haggailx_: please let me know if it works for you12:00
lx_haggai: i have never installed a file like this before12:01
haggailx_: add the deb line to your sources.list and then you'll see the new packages in your package manager12:02
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lx_haggai: so i don't download them?12:04
haggailx_: apt/aptitude/synaptic does that for you12:05
haggaihttp://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto/view?searchterm=sources.list12:05
lx_haggai: i know that... just used to downloading things to install... wasn't sure if i had to download first12:06
haggaik12:06
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buttthink i installed flsah player.12:07
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buttzug looks like i gotta install sound drivers or some shit12:11
butti get the basic sounds for ubuntu but nothing from websites12:11
butthttp://koti.mbnet.fi/perskii/flashit/koks.swf12:11
butt^ like from there no sound :\12:11
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lx_haggai: almost done . . .12:16
Examanceri installed bitlbee through synaptic package manager... now how do I actually start the server?12:16
lx_haggai: actually gonna take awhile to download it...12:17
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scizzobutt: I do12:18
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lx_haggai: in 30 min i will let you know if it worked  . .12:19
lx_btw, the .doc opened in Abiword12:20
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plancktonhow would I mirror two systems?12:23
plancktonI have n linux boxes here in school. And I'd like to have one Master system. The other systems shjould than accordingly syncronate to that system.12:24
plancktonI thought about rsync12:24
plancktonbut would I have to care about modifications?12:24
MM2planckton: do you mean system should be identical files or have just sama packages?12:26
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MeMa|Sorcererhi12:27
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MM2plah... should systems be identical (user files also) or should them have only same programs and packages?12:27
haggailx_: thanks12:28
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wdhIs it normal behaviour for sudo _never_ to ask for a password when using it?12:29
MeMa|Sorcererno12:29
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TCSCushingbob2 - I was able to edit a WIKI, my previous problem was that I wasn't logging in correctly.12:30
MeMa|Sorcererist asks for pass and than chaches it for 5 minutes12:30
plancktonMM2, yep12:30
plancktonMM2, identical would be best.12:31
lucienIs it normal that Totem-Xine plays my Divx movies, but without audio ? And that file properties actually thinks that movies aren't even encoded with audio ?12:31
NuuBi just d/l'd a tarball and when i trie unpacking it got an error saying "Cannot change ownership to uid 515, gid 515: Operation not permitted" - what's this mean?12:31
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lucienThat means that you are not allowed to unpack it.12:32
lucienOr overwrite a file.12:32
lucienOr something like that.12:32
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shockhi all12:32
shockk3b burns without errors - nautilus-cd-burner bungled the last 7 cd's12:32
shockany hints?12:32
NuuBi tried it as my standard user, and tried again using sudo though12:32
plancktonMM2, for example the master system is running apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade on a regular basis. And I do not want all the other systems to do crap12:33
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MM2planckton: maybe some backup script could do some good for you? Or that rsync? I can't help you more with this, sorry!12:35
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plancktonMM2, hmm thanks mate12:36
wdhMeMa|Sorcerer, well.. here it never asks me for any password at all12:39
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catfoxMorning all.12:41
catfoxI've got a fresh install of Ubuntu, but when I plug in my usb devices(cam or pen drive) they dont mount.12:42
NuuBhow do i findout who or what uid and gid 515 is?12:42
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catfoxNuuB, can you look it up in the user admin tool?12:43
NuuBdont know, i'll try12:43
naimhi, how do i get an accurate memory usage reading ? ? top and free -m say i have used up my ram fully12:43
naimthats not true .. at least i dont think so12:43
catfoxnaim, afaik linux uses all available ram, then free's it up as new processes request it12:44
catfoxNuuB, Computer -> System Configuration -> Users and groups12:44
mjrnaim, see the +/- buffers/cache line of free's output12:45
naimcatfox, i would like to read more about htat .. and recommended texts ??12:45
catfoxnaim, http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/277012:46
jdubnaim: read the second line of free12:47
jdubnaim: that tells you how much ram is being used for buffers/cache12:47
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jdubnaim: which is freed whenever an app needs it, but is used to speed things up otherwise12:47
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catfoxany ideas why my usb devices dount auto-mount on this machine? it works fine on my desktop. weird12:48
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jdubcatfox: is gnome-volume-manager running?12:49
catfoxjdub, running g-v-m from the command line says  manager.c/1202: already running?12:50
catfoxjdub, should I kill it, and re-run it?12:50
jdubcatfox: i asked if it was running, not suggesting you run it12:50
jdubcatfox: load hal-device-manager and see if the usb device is listed in it12:50
catfoxjdub, I see lots of "USB Hub Interface" entries12:52
LithiIs there a way to upgrade the CUPS that comes with Warty -easily- because the apt-get update isint finding the update for it12:54
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Lithimabey theres a better repositorie that I should be using?12:55
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scoonanyone in here notice that on boot samba gets loaded but does not allow for smb browsing.  if I restart it, all is ok12:56
jesuelhrm thats strange, scoon. Mine works dandy12:57
catfoxjdub, ahh yes, just noticed the camera shows up as a usb mass storage interface12:57
jesuelfrom straight after boot up12:57
scoonjesuel, mine is just fine if i restart samba12:57
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jesuelthat it quite strange...12:57
silvain synaptic i waht he go get the packages in debian url12:58
silvawhat is the configuration i need do12:58
scizzoscoon: warty or hoary?12:58
scoonscizzo, hoary12:58
jesuelahh, that may be it12:58
jesuelim running warty ;p12:59
naimjdub, catfox thnx12:59
scizzoscoon: IMHO i would trust warty more to do those things12:59
scizzoscoon: you could look at what the logs tell you12:59
scoonscizzo, ?12:59
scoonscizzo, i have and nothing gives12:59
scizzoscoon: in the samba logs?01:00
scoonscizzo, that was and would be the first place01:00
scizzoscoon: dmesg?01:00
scizzoscoon: syslog?01:00
scizzoscoon: etc01:01
scoonscizzo: YES01:01
scizzook...01:01
eruinanyone here know of gui svn clients?01:01
eruinmaybe even something nautilus-ish?01:01
scizzomaybe someone else has had the same problem in hoary and done a bug report?01:01
scoonscizzo, and yes i have check'd there and in the forums.01:02
scizzoscoon: not reported?01:02
scoonscizzo, nope.01:02
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scizzoscoon: maybe you should try the version from warty?01:02
scoonscizzo, nah, its no biggy.01:03
scoonscizzo, like i said, when i restart samba it is just fine.01:03
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stormycatcan anyone help me with openoffice save problem?01:03
scizzowell....maybe you could report a bug?01:03
stormycatbug is already reported, can't find any answers though01:04
scizzoit might be package problem...someone else has been here asking the same thing and that is why I thought that it might have been reported01:04
shock<stormycat> i wish i could - but i have a problem with ooo crashing on save as and stuff myself01:04
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stormycatis is a gnome thing?01:04
scoonscizzo, maybe.01:04
scizzoscoon: maybe?01:04
haggaistormycat: which bug#?01:04
scizzoyou think someone else will do it for you?01:04
shockdunno01:05
scoonscizzo, maybe i will report a bug.  but i wanted to see if anyone else has had the same problem01:05
linuxboyanybody know how i can enable vnc from the command prompt?01:05
shockim working with abiword mostly right now01:05
scoonscizzo, NO.  Just don't want to add a useless bug01:05
stormycatI can't remember  - i didnt post it myself01:05
scoonscizzo, relax.01:05
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scizzoscoon: then look if the config is valid....01:05
scoonscizzo, everything you have suggested, I have already looked at.01:05
scizzoscoon: you can't see any logs about it..but try to see if you can log it in the config01:06
stormycathopefully it will be sorted soon or I will have to go back to warty01:06
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haggaistormycat: if you don't tell me what the problem is I can't sort it...01:06
scizzoscoon: if you still can't find the answer to why things are going wrong....bug report the package01:06
scoonscizzo, all I was looking for was if this was happening to anyone else.  not the answer or how to maybe not find it.01:06
NuuBok, about to attempt an install of gcc - should i do it as root (w/sudo), as root (user), or as my local username?01:06
goldfish_sudo01:07
scoonscizzo, and besides, from what I have told you, how good would that worthless bug report be.01:07
stormycatfound the bug no - 589801:07
haggaithanks01:07
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scoonscizzo, no logs, no real problems other than a /etc/init.d/samba restart, and no one else w/ the problem.01:07
scizzoscoon: it could be a system problem that is why01:08
scizzoscoon: if the samba stuff is started to early and things like that01:08
scoonscizzo, if i bug it, I would like to have something tangeable to give.01:08
haggaistormycat: ok I didn't do anything to that yet because there is no console output.  Can you paste the console output to the bug report?01:08
scizzoscoon: isn't "Samba at boot problem" a good topic for that?01:08
stormycatok01:09
scoonscizzo, forget it.  My next step will be to look over the init script for it. thanks tho.01:09
silvawhat is the url to be configured on synaptic for get all debian package01:09
silvapackages01:09
guimhi all, just a noob question : what should I use to burn a cd (with an iso) with ubuntu? anyone recommand me something thqt could look like "nero" and as easy to use ?thanks!01:10
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mjrguim, right-click on the iso in nautilus and choose to burn it01:11
guim:)01:11
guimok01:11
scizzoguim: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#burnisofile01:11
stormycatsorry - bit unsure how to do that (bit of a noob to this stuff) -  this is the error I get:  libgnomevfs-ERROR **: file gnome-vfs-cancellation.c: line 13301:11
stormycat(gnome_vfs_cancellation_cancel): assertion failed:01:11
stormycat(gnome_vfs_is_primary_thread())01:12
stormycataborting...01:12
guimthank you guys01:12
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ArdieMardiem@chillout:~ $ sudo depmod -a ; sudo modprobe fglrx01:13
ArdieMFATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.10-3-amd64-generic/kernel/drivers/video/fglrx.ko): No such device01:13
ArdieMwhat does that mean... what is missing ?01:13
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Examanceranyone know how i can configure init so that I can access bitlbee from outside of localhost?01:15
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silvaso can some help me01:17
silvain synaptic01:17
NuuBthis seems like a catch 22 - i am trying to install gcc but the gnu docs say "either cc or gcc must be in your path or you must set CC in your environment before running configure. Otherwise the configuration scripts may fail." so i need it installed to install it? huh?01:18
dudyou have to pre-stage gcc for a from-scratch install01:19
siridharkind of like getting winrar installer in .rar01:19
mjrNuuB, well, surprisingly, you need a C compiler to compile a C program01:19
scizzosilva: with what?01:19
dudif you've ever done a LFS setup, it should be familiar :)01:19
mjrbut you really don't want to install it from source, apt-get install build-essential01:19
stormycatHi silva, in warty i used something like  deb-marillat (can't remember the rest of it.  Google is pretty helpful01:20
ArdieMsiridhar: yes i know that .. hahahah01:20
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catfoxI've just added a new user and inserted my usb devices when logged in as that user, but they don't mount then either. no ideas why usb devices don't automount? (they're showing up in the hal-device-manager though)01:20
mjrcatfox, I guess that the new user is not in the plugdev group01:20
mjrit needs to be in it in order for it to have the authorization to do so01:20
NuuBmjr: ok i will try that instead (should i run that as sudo?)01:20
mjrNuuB, yes01:20
catfoxmjr, the user admin tool shows plugdev listed in both users' groups01:21
mjrcatfox, hmm, and if you launch a shell as the new user and type "id", plugdev is listed?01:22
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catfoxmjr, yeah. 103(plugdev)01:22
mjrrighto01:23
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dueyfinsterdownload.com01:23
mjrwell, my guesses are running low then, except for the trivial "is gnome-volume-properties set to automount them" ;)01:23
dueyfinstersorry01:24
dueyfinsterI was trying to type that into firefox!01:24
goldfish_lol01:24
catfoxmjr, hehe, yeah it's a fresh install01:24
NuuBmjr, that got it, thank you01:25
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catfoxmjr, oh well. thanks for the help anyway.01:25
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mjrcatfox, of, except there is the thing that you might try to, as root perhaps, mount them while explicitly spesifying the filesystem type01:25
mjr...or not01:25
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looksaushm, when I try tftpd-hpa01:27
looksausI have a group problem01:28
looksausit seems that user nobody is not part of any group on hoary?01:28
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looksausor at least grep nobody /etc/group doesn't tell me01:28
G2what build tools does ubuntu use for docbook xml?01:30
looksauscan I just add a group nogroup or does it need special properties?01:32
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looksaus(apart from nobody being member)01:33
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websitedoes anybody know something about xorg + framebuffer?01:34
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LinuxJoneslooksaus, what are you running that you need the nobody group ?01:35
looksaustftpd-hpa...01:36
looksausat least, I think so01:36
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Examancerheh... had no idea how fast changes to hosts.allow take effect01:37
looksaus/var/log/daemon.log:Feb  9 13:21:11 localhost in.tftpd[4151] : cannot set groups for user nobody01:37
looksausLinuxJones, am I right that I should interpret that as01:38
looksaus"explicitly add user nobody to the nogroup line in /etc/group ?01:39
LinuxJoneslooksaus, afaik the account should be on the system, I am running Warty and don't have that account/croup either01:40
LinuxJoneslooksaus, err account/group01:40
looksaushm... any other suggestions as to what might be wrong here?01:40
looksaus(I've done similar setups several times before)01:41
LinuxJoneslooksaus, I have no idea, might be a good idea to have a look at the forums and mailing lists. If there is no information,  ask a question on the mailing list someone will have some info for you ;)01:42
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looksausok, thx for your replay anyway...01:43
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Guardianngood morning people01:44
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LinuxJonesGuardiann, hi01:45
Guardiann:)01:46
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GuardiannLove my daily upgrades01:46
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LinuxJonesGuardiann, you must be running Hoary, Warty has like 1 update a week :D01:47
Guardiannyeah I am01:47
Guardiannlike Christmas every day :)01:47
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LinuxJonesGuardiann, until the Grinch comes for a visit and borks you xorg :)01:48
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Guardiannso far so good been 4 weeks01:48
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Guardiannno grinch yet01:48
Guardiannwell i will be right back time to reboot see if the grinch visited this am01:50
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pittiseb128: do you know a gnome counterpart of worklog/wmwork?01:52
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seb128pitti: dunno what worklog/wmwork is01:53
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Guardiannstill all good01:53
pittiseb128: it keeps track of the time you spend on various projects during the day01:53
pittiseb128: i. e. what we are supposed to do now in our reports01:53
LinuxJonesheh01:53
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jdubpitti: the launchpad dudes are using a pygtk thingy01:54
danielspitti: 01:07 < elmo> mdz: svn co http://mg.pov.lt/gtimelog/svn/ gtimelog01:54
pittiah, cool01:54
Guardiannnice little change to the login in when you unlock your screen01:54
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seb128pitti: dunno01:54
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zaugrlyhi01:57
Guardiannzaugrly hello01:57
zaugrly_01:57
zaugrly:)01:57
zaugrlyis anyone in this channel running ubuntu on a mac?01:57
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GFXstyLERhi01:58
Keitobefore I install ubuntu, shoudl I add an old 10gb HD or make another partition on my existing HD?01:58
GFXstyLERcan anyone help me with a little fglrx question ?01:59
zaugrlydepends on how much space u got left, i guess01:59
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zaugrlykeito01:59
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Keitowell I have 20gigs free at the moment, but that fills up from time to time01:59
GFXstyLERi installed the fglrx ati drivers, they even loaded fine, but i dont got any 3d acceleration to work (yes, i searched google)02:00
KeitoI basically want to know which will probably cause me less problems in GRUB...02:00
LinuxJonesGFXstyLER, where did you install the drivers from ?02:00
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GFXstyLERubuntu hoary02:00
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drunken-wallabyhello everyone :)02:01
Keitohello02:01
GFXstyLERhello wallaby02:01
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LinuxJonesGFXstyLER, can you run glxgears in terminal ?02:01
GFXstyLERyes02:02
LinuxJonesGFXstyLER, what does it say ?02:02
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GFXstyLERXlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".02:02
LinuxJonesGFXstyLER, look on the ubuntu forums I'm pretty sure there will be some help there. I run Nvidia myself.02:03
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GFXstyLERi did, but only at the german forums, maybe the english ones have more information02:03
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drunken-wallabyyou'll probably find some useful information at www.ubuntuguide.org as well...02:04
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drunken-wallabyhi tomcan...02:04
drunken-wallabyt02:04
GFXstyLERthx wallaby02:04
liberionGFXstyLER, you gotta change "ati" to "fglrx" in xfree86config02:05
GFXstyLERi did already, but still no 3d, do i have to restart the computer after that?02:06
Tomcat__Hi drunken-wallaby.02:06
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LinuxJonesGFXstyLER, yes >> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3713&highlight=ATI02:07
liberionGFXstyLER, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto/view?searchterm=fglrx02:07
GFXstyLERthx @ linuxjones & liberion02:07
LinuxJonesGFXstyLER, GL :)02:07
liberionGFXstyLER, i see the problem reading the howto02:08
liberionGFXstyLER, echo fglrx | sudo tee -a /etc/modules that write the fglrx driver to /etc/modules and apon reboot its loaded but you can logout of x and modprobe fglrx and startx it may work then02:09
GFXstyLERill do a restart02:09
GFXstyLERbrb02:09
liberionGFXstyLER, cool02:09
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arieshelp~  my locale is zh_CN.UTF-8, and there are .mo files  in /usr/share/locale/zh_CN directory.  but the gtk/gtk+ programe are still the english , while the qt-based programe are all right02:12
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ariesanybody help?02:14
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guimburning cd with nautilus don't work : it says in a popup that my cd is not writable (but it is a new one!) anyone knows what could cause this?02:18
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liberionaries, sorry i speak english never had to fix it02:19
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membreyahey guys :)02:21
liberionhey02:21
Guardiannhello02:22
membreyawho here can help with o-office and JRE? :)02:22
linuxboyhi. Does anyone know how I can enable VNC remotly?02:22
drunken-wallabyhi guim, is the problem nautilus specific or can you burn cds directly from the console with cdrecord or with other applications?02:22
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guimi didn't try02:23
guimcdrecord in command so02:23
guimi'll try02:23
liberionhey anyone wanna try my briquolo ubuntu package??02:23
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acs_hello to all02:24
drunken-wallabyok02:24
acs_how do I install gcc in ubuntu02:24
membreyagot blackdown installed..but open office is saying no JRE found :(02:24
membreyaacs_: sudo apt-get gcc02:24
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membreyaoops02:24
membreyaapt-get install gcc02:24
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acs_E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)02:25
acs_E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?02:25
acs_??02:25
membreyadid you sudo ?02:26
acs_ops02:26
liberionacs_, where is your jre located?02:26
membreyaand do you have synaptic open at the same time?02:26
membreyatalking to me liberion or acs? :P02:26
acs_liberion, I am still new to this linux thing02:26
acs_so what is the jre?02:27
acs_membreya, it's installing now02:27
membreyajre = java runtime environment02:27
acs_thanks02:27
membreyanp acs02:27
earthenanyone know of a program that works like hyperterminal in windows02:27
liberionok who asked something about jre?02:27
membreyaI've only been using ubuntu for about 3 or 4 days, so it's new to me too02:27
membreyaliberion: I did, trying to get open office to recognise my JRE02:27
acs_liberion, I did but membreya already awnsered02:28
nitroxAnyone in here running dual display... What Dual Display Video Card do you have02:28
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membreyaand it's in /usr/local/j2re1.4.2/02:28
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audixHey, I need an FTP client, what should I get?02:30
audixI'd like a GUI one02:30
Paralla1gftp02:30
lup|gnometogtkgftp?02:30
nitroxCan anyone suggest a good Dual Display video card... Nothing for Gaming just good DVD playback something that can handle 3D decent02:30
drunken-wallabyhi audix. sudo apt-get install gftp02:30
audixsounds good02:30
liberionmembreya, find where jre is located02:31
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earthenI use an ATI video card works fine for me, i haven't tried the duel display yet but it says it works02:31
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nitroxEarthen : What model are you using and what is the memory on it ?02:32
Paralla1i tries o nati with no results, i have now a nvidia one and it wiorks perfect02:32
liberionmembreya, maybe in /etc/profile add this to your path /usr/local/j2re1.4.2_06/bin02:32
earthenI have the 9700pro 128 megs ram02:32
nitroxCool02:32
tritiumliberion, that will be system-wide.  Perhaps use ~/.bash_profile02:32
earthena friend is having alot of trougle getting his x800 to work so i would go there yet02:32
acs_is there any C editor for unbuntu?02:32
audixvim is pretty cool02:33
nitroxBecause I was thinking about going the Matrox G450 32MB but02:33
earthenwouldn't02:33
liberiontritium, true02:33
tritiumacs_, gedit has syntax highlighting, if that's what you're looking for02:33
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nitrox32MB sounds too Small02:33
audixacs_: but vim is a steep learning curve02:33
Paralla1I have a 6600GT and my dual screen was easy to setup02:33
tritiumliberion, :)02:33
guimi tried to burn my CD with cdrecord02:33
acs_tritium, yeah that is really cool02:33
earthenI don't know much about that card02:33
acs_how can I set it up here in ubuntu?02:33
membreyaliberion: I've already added /usr/local/j2re1.4.2/ to my path in the profile file....02:33
tritiumacs_, I think emacs is also installed by default02:33
membreyado you need to reload that file ?02:33
earthenI've tried the duel display in windows and it work great on the ATI02:33
acs_it is?02:33
acs_ok02:34
guimbut not sure about the command, it doesn't work either02:34
tritiumacs_, You should already have gedit too.  Under Accessories.02:34
goldfish_NANO!02:34
goldfish_:)02:34
earthenyou can get cheaper models that do the same like the 9550 or some thing02:34
tritiumacs_, It's labeled "Text Editor"02:34
liberionmembreya, no no its /usr/local/j2re1.4.2/bin you must add the bin02:34
acs_no no02:34
acs_I don't see it there02:34
nitroxThanx Earthen and Parallal for your input02:35
tritiumguim, did you use "cdrecord -scanbus" to find your drive?02:35
membreyajust looked at my profile file again liberion...it does have the bin there *hangs his head in shame*02:35
goldfish_from a terminal type gedit filename02:35
earthenNP02:35
guimok i try this02:35
membreyaI can do a java -version from the console and it says that there's a java version running02:35
guimthx02:35
membreyabut open office is just being a pain in the a$$ and saying I don't have a JRE02:35
liberionmembreya, did you run an ldconfig02:35
tritiumguim, what type of drive?  atapi?02:35
guimCannot open '/dev/pg*'02:35
membreyajust ran an ldconfig then, you'll have to pardon me..I'm new to linux..well I used it 5 years ago ..but it's like asking me about the things I learnt in school02:36
membreyain one ear out there other02:37
membreyanope, still says there's no JRE >:(02:37
guimi have sata hdd02:37
membreyaguim: what are you trying to do ?02:38
guimburn a cd02:38
guim:)02:38
membreyawhat's happening?02:38
guimnautilus don't wont to burn it02:38
guimwant02:38
membreyadoes it give you the option of burning to a disc or only to a file?02:38
tritiumguim, nautilus doesn't use cdrecord02:38
guimsaying it is not a writbale cd, but it is02:38
guimah02:38
guimmembreya : cdrecord or nautilus?02:39
membreyanautilus02:39
drunken-wallabycdrecord -v dev=/dev/hdx speed=x -data image.iso02:39
guimi have a popup saying it won't burn02:40
membreyagive a reason?02:40
membreyasorry to make you repeat yourself02:40
guimbut i do not have the option to burn the iso file in a file02:41
guimthe popup says the cd is not a writable cd02:41
guimno prob02:41
guimbut i know it is02:41
audixAnybody know if and how I can make a sftp connection with gftp?02:41
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guimi just opened it02:41
guimnever used it02:41
tritiumguim, can you "dmesg | grep CD"02:41
membreyaat least nautilus says you have a cd burner :P02:42
guimhda: LITE-ON LTR-52327S, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive02:42
guimhdb: JLMS XJ-HD166S, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive02:42
guimhda: ATAPI 52X CD-ROM CD-R/RW drive, 2048kB Cache02:42
guimUniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.2002:42
guimdoes this help ? :)02:43
tritiumyeah02:43
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membreyai tried to use gnomeburn but they don't seem to have a 64 bit port >:(02:43
tritiumnautilus should have no problem using that02:43
tritiumguim, try "cdrecord dev=ATAPI: -scanbus" if you want cdrecord to find it.  Again, though, nautilus doesn't use cdrecord.02:43
guimokay02:44
tritiumand it that doesn't work, try dev=ATA:02:44
membreyatritium: what's that command do ?02:45
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tritiummembreya, scans for the CD burner so he can configure cdrecord02:45
membreyaoh ok :)02:45
tritiumAlthough, that won't help us with his nautilus problem02:45
membreyaapart from gnomeburn...does anyone know a good cdburner that HAS a 64 bit port?02:46
tritiummembreya, did you look to see if graveman has a 64 bit port?02:46
membreyanautilus doesn't even recognise my cd/dvd burner02:46
tritiumwhat type is it?02:46
tritiumguim, any luck?02:46
membreya'PIONEER ' 'DVD-RW  DVR-108 ' '1.18' Removable CD-ROM02:46
membreyaATA02:46
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guimnot sure of the right cdrecord command i must do02:47
tritiumguim, "cdrecord dev=ATAPI: -scanbus"02:47
tritiumif that fails, "cdrecord dev=ATA: -scanbus"02:48
guim"fails"02:48
guimwhat i am suppose to expect?02:48
guimi mean i must give the iso filename at least?02:48
guimno?02:48
tritiumguim, something like this: 0,1,0     1) 'TOSHIBA ' 'CDRW/DVD SDR2102' '1D13' Removable CD-ROM02:49
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tritiumguim, no, this is to find the drive, not burn the image yet02:49
guim0,0,0     0) 'LITE-ON ' 'LTR-52327S      ' 'QS0C' Removable CD-ROM02:49
guim        0,1,0     1) 'JLMS    ' 'XJ-HD166S       ' 'DS1A' Removable CD-ROM02:49
guim        0,2,0     2) *02:49
guim        0,3,0     3) *02:49
guim        0,4,0     4) *02:49
guim        0,5,0     5) *02:49
guim        0,6,0     6) *02:49
guim        0,7,0     7) *02:49
guimah okay02:49
tritiumyikes, don't paste so much02:49
guimoups...sorry02:49
membreyagrrrr, I open firefox, go to google..start typing graveman and it closes :|02:49
tritiumokay, so if you edit /etc/default/cdrecord, to reflect the drive you want to use, cdrecord will be able to find it02:50
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guimok02:50
tritiummembreya, apt-cache search graveman (it's in universe)02:50
membreya....hmmm firefox is only quitting in google :|02:50
incsup peeps02:51
tritiumguim, once cdrecord is configured, then you can use it until we figure out your nautilus problem02:51
guimok cool!02:51
membreyatritium: doing a sudo apt-cache search graveman it gives me nothing...got all the repositories from the ubuntuguide loaded02:51
tritiummembreya, are you using Warty?02:52
guimi should add a line at the end of etc/default/cdrecord02:52
membreyaoh..and I figured out the stepping problem with my amd 64...it was only running 1ghz..i just altered the script to give boinc normal priority :)02:52
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membreyatritium: yup using warty02:52
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tritiummembreya, it's not in Warty.   Just Hoary.02:53
tritium:(02:53
membreyanoooooooooooo02:53
evarlastisn't k3b in universe?02:53
evarlastgraveman didn't work for me (in hoary) but k3b worked perfect.02:53
membreyahmmm that poses the question again then ...what cd burner (in 64 bit) to use02:53
tritiumyes, if you can tolerate kde libraries on your system02:53
evarlasttritium: it is only 35MB download, ~ 100MB usage... which is a lot for a CDRecorder, yes.02:53
evarlastBut it it well worth it in terms of usability of k3b (the best)02:54
tritiumevarlast, I think it uses cdrecord.  Did you have cdrecord configured properly?02:54
evarlasttritium: yes, in fact I use cdrecord to burn the files manually, before moving to k3b.02:54
membreyalol 100mb for a cd burner.. I thought nero was bad in windblowz02:54
evarlastmembreya: nah, Roxio's cd product is bad :)02:54
membreyahaven't used roxio in yeaaars...nero is my fav ..mainly for converting divx to dvd02:55
membreyasilly apt-get...can never go beyond 200k/s :(02:55
membreyasorry ..kB/s :P02:55
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tritiumguim, did you get cdrecord configured?02:56
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membreyagah...k3b doesn't detect my burner either02:59
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tritiummembreya, just to be sure, is the cdrom module loaded? ;)02:59
membreyalol .....I figured out why it's not recognising it ...03:00
membreyakinda ashamed now03:00
membreyaROFL03:00
guimi try03:00
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membreyahad cdrom mounting as ro..changed it to rw ;)03:00
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chrillanmembreya: heh :>03:01
tritium:)03:01
membreyaI'm new to this ..lemme be ;)03:01
evarlastmounting as ro in fstab?  that stopped you from using cdrecord?03:02
membreyayup03:02
membreyawell no03:02
membreyait stopped me using nautilus and k3b03:02
membreya:)03:02
guimwell...I edited the etc/default/cdrecord and added a line in the file with : liteon0,1,0-1-1""03:03
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guimis that what you meant by "beeing configured"? or did i miss something?03:03
tritiumguim, and did you add a line with "CDR_DEVICE=liteon" ?03:03
guimah no03:03
tritiumnear the top, there's a line like that03:03
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guimdone03:04
tritiumguim, it should work, now03:04
guimusing cdrecord in command then03:04
tritiumyeah.  remind us again about your nautilus problem.  It detects the drive?03:04
tritiummaybe you should also check your /etc/fstab03:05
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membreyathink that might be his problem as well tritium03:05
membreyai hereby decree it "newbie mistake of the day"03:05
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tritiummembreya, had you mounted your drive, or was that done automatically?03:05
membreyatritium: automatically...03:05
membreyabut had to change the fstab to be rw03:06
membreyaand do a sudo mount -a03:06
guimyes the driver in nautilus appear03:06
tritiumguim, is the cd blank media, or not?03:06
guimi can select it (but it is preselected)03:06
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guimth media is new, completely blank03:06
petteriHello, I have installed Ubuntu as text mode, not graphical. And I have downloaded and installed psyBNC software from internet... And I want to connect to my Ubuntu from this computer with Putty, but putty says only: "connection timed out". What could be wrong?03:06
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membreyadid you check your fstab guim?03:06
tritiumguim, okay, so it shouldn't be mounted.03:06
Maydayi have a problem with warty, when i logged in 2 mouse pointers... one X and one normal arrow, the arrow i can move, the X just hovers above everything, anyone know how to disable it?03:07
tritiumpetteri, did you install the ssh server?03:07
petteriYes03:07
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petteriBut it wont still work03:07
petteriShall I try reinstall ssh server?03:07
Schaapyes :)03:08
petteriWhat was that command...03:08
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tritiumsudo apt-get install openssh-server03:08
SchaapBtw how does hotswap work with ubuntu?03:08
SchaapThat yes03:08
tritiumpetteri, you'll need --reinstall03:08
tritiumif it's already installed03:09
petteriHmm03:09
tritiumbut that must not be the problem....03:09
petteriWHat you mean?03:09
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tritiumsudo apt-get install --reinstall openssh-server03:09
petteriHmm03:09
petteriOkay03:09
guimcdrecord don't work03:09
guimi typed "cdrecord myfile.iso"03:09
tritiumpetteri, you're sure you have it installed?03:09
guimmissed some param?03:09
Schaapparams suck03:10
membreyadid you edit your fstab guim and is the drive in nautilus now?03:10
djkanyone else having an issue with the bottom toolbar? the icons on it are really really small03:10
djkanyone know how to change that?03:10
Schaapaha, a hotswap package :)03:10
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petteriREstarting opensource plaaplaa: OK03:10
petteriThats it?03:10
petteriDo I need to reboot ?03:10
Schaapok how about cloning then03:11
Schaaphahaha03:11
Schaapreboot is for windows :)03:11
petteriHeh03:11
SchaapUbuntu only needs restarting a service03:11
petteriIt wont still connect03:11
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tritiumpetteri, can you ping the machine?03:12
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SchaapDo you use putty on the windows machine?03:12
petteriHow?03:12
petteriYes03:12
petteriI'm using03:12
Schaapping <ip>03:12
petteriAt Ubuntu console?03:12
tritiumyes03:12
Schaapping from windows to ubuntu03:12
membreyanoone has helped me with my JRE/OpenOffice problem yet ;)03:12
Schaapand the other way around :)03:12
petteriTimed out03:13
Schaapping the router then03:13
petteriBut Internet works fine on both computers03:13
tritiummembreya, what does oo.o use JRE for?03:13
Schaapfrom both machines03:13
petteriHow that?03:13
Schaapping router IP03:13
tritiumpetteri, the problem is not with the ssh server, then03:13
petteriIf I reboot my ubuntu, could it help?03:14
tritiumno03:14
Schaapping ping ping ping!ping every IP you can think of03:14
petteriHmmm03:14
membreyadon't know ..it says that some things might not function..should i just not care about it tritium?03:14
petteriBut everything works fine03:14
Schaapno it doesnt03:14
Schaapother wise ssh would work right?03:14
petteriI mean, I'm ircin, so internet connection maybe works in this computer. And i have downloaded psyBNC software from internet to my Ubuntu, internet works fine at that too03:15
membreyadid you start the SSH server petteri? :P03:15
petteriHow...03:15
petteriI just have installed it03:15
petteri:D03:15
tritiumIt should have started when you installed it03:16
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petteriHmm03:16
petteriWEll, if not, how I can start it?03:16
guimmembreya, I see my 2 drives in nautilus03:16
tritiumsudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart03:16
membreyabut you can't select them guim?03:16
guimmembreya, here is my line in /etc/fstab03:16
guim/dev/hda        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 rw,user,noauto  0       003:17
guim/dev/hdb        /media/cdrom1   udf,iso9660 rw,user,noauto  0       003:17
guimI change ro -> rw03:17
membreyadid you only just change that guim?03:17
membreyahave you done a sudo mount -a?03:17
petteriREstarting openBSD secure shell server : Done03:17
guimok I try03:17
petteriHmm03:17
tritiumpetteri, you don't seem to have a route to the other machine03:18
bborkkHi, there are several threads over on Ubuntu's Bugzilla regarding XMMS not working.  I haven't completely untangled the threads... anyone know what is going on?03:18
bborkkSeems like it might be something with glibc or libmikmod2 or how XMMS is packaged or apt.03:18
guimok mount -a change nothing03:18
petteriWhat you mean tritium?03:18
tritiumpetteri, since you couldn't ping it, it means your can't reach it03:18
guimI see my 2 drives in nautilus computer:///03:18
tritiumthere's a routing problem03:19
jbaileybborkk: I'm using xmms on two boxes here (ppc and i386) under ubuntu with no problems.03:19
petteriWhat I then should do?03:19
bborkkjbailey: Warty or Hoary?03:19
jbaileybborkk: Hoary.03:19
bborkkjbailey: Hm.  XMMS starts up fine, but hangs when it tries to play anything, reporting that libmikmod2 is missing.03:20
bborkkjbailey: Do you have NVidia drivers installed?03:20
tritiumpetteri, one minute...03:20
jbaileybborkk: I have an nVidia driver on a machine that doesn't have speakers attached.03:20
Guardiannmy xmms works great also03:20
danielsbborkk: ah yes, that's a glibc bug.  either uninstall nvidia-glx, or install libmikmod2.03:20
jbaileybborkk: I could try playing something and see if it starts.  I just won't hear the sound.03:20
jbaileydaniels: Eh?03:21
bborkkdaniels: Why is nvidia-glx included?  I have an ATI card.03:21
G2what build tools does ubuntu use for docbook xml?03:21
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membreyaguim: have you tried doing a sudo nautilus burn:/// ... I did that and see that I'm getting errors on my console03:22
jbaileyLooks like I have libmikmod2 on all of my machines, pulled in when I installes gstreamer0.8-plugins03:22
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bborkkjbailey: Ah.  That makes sense.03:23
danielsjbailey: #21935203:23
danielsbborkk: ah, it must be something else, then.  sorry.03:23
bborkkdaniels: I do have the nvidia-glx package, though.  Can't figure out why.03:24
danielsbborkk: in that case, that'll probably be the issue?03:24
bborkkdaniels: But why would I have that package if I don't have an NVidia card?03:25
bborkkdaniels: bug #219352 doesn't seem to exist on bugzilla.ubuntu.com03:25
guimmembreya, Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.03:26
membreyaguim..try doing it with a sudo03:26
jbaileybborkk: If the bug number is over 200,000, it's certainly the Debian BTS. =)03:26
bborkkdaniels: Actually, I take that back.  I only have nvidia-kernel-common installed.  Still, though, why?03:26
bborkkjbailey: Ah.  :)03:26
guimI try it with sudo03:26
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danielsbborkk: ah, in that case, it won't trigger for you -- that bug is on bugs.debian.org, too03:28
membreyagah..now my cd burner has disappeared..hrm :|03:29
membreyawill figure it out yet03:29
bborkkdaniels: What won't trigger?  The bug?  I definitely see the symptoms posted in the bug report.03:29
danielsbborkk: does it crash?03:30
bborkkdaniels: Doesn't crash, just spits "libmikmod.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" to the console on startup and hangs when attempting to play anything.03:32
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r3v3rbafternoon03:33
bborkkdaniels: It seems installing libmikmod fixes this, but apt should take care of it.  The bug report you pointed to indicates it is a problem with glibc.03:33
r3v3rbquick question, is there a way to get nautilus to ope up in 'browse folder' mode by default ?03:33
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ubunrot2i need some help what is the best appl for connect resoucs of windows03:34
bborkkr3v3rb: open up nautilus, go to edit->preferences->behavior and click "always open in browser windows"03:35
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bborkkubunrot2: come again?03:36
r3v3rbbborkk, ta da !! ook and ye shall find !!! doh i feel dumb for not seeing that one !03:36
bborkkr3v3rb: I think I had to ask about that, too.  :)03:36
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danielsbborkk: right -- the problem being that dlopen should just say 'libmikmod is not available' and xmms continues, and that's fine.  but it doesn't, ergo glibc bug.03:37
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bborkkdaniels: So, I guess this is upstream?03:37
jbaileybborkk: It's hard to promise that.  We have some linker hacks in our tree, and our tree is also 18 months or so out of date.03:38
ubunrot2i have linneighorhood runing but i cant do nathing03:38
r3v3rbdaniels, is it a bug in the updater that when doing an upgrade from array-3 the cursor defaults to an ugly black one and i loose the 'industrail theme' ?03:38
ubunrot2so03:38
jbaileybborkk: I don't know the Hoary+1 plans with glibc, but there will a Debian update after sarge.03:38
ubunrot2ther are other prog doing the same03:38
bborkkjbailey: hm.  so should i install libmikmod and hope since mdz and you guys are in the know on this bug that it will get fixed, or should i not use xmms for now?03:39
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bebekhello...03:41
r3v3rbbborkk, you could always use xine instead ! my preferred audio/video player03:41
r3v3rbhi bebek03:41
bebekwhy do i get this while doing apt-get upgrade: Errors were encountered while processing:03:41
bebek /var/cache/apt/archives/xlibmesa-gl_6.8.1-1ubuntu15_i386.deb03:41
bebek /var/cache/apt/archives/gnome-icon-theme_2.9.91-0ubuntu2_all.deb03:41
bborkkr3v3rb: I prefer xine for video, but xmms for audio.  can't stand the totem/iMusic interface.03:42
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r3v3rbno idea bebek i had the gnome-icon-theme one too03:42
danielsr3v3rb: yes, it's already been filed03:42
danielsbborkk: yeah03:42
danielsbborkk: install libmikmod2 for now03:42
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r3v3rbbborkk, when i got rid of totem-gstreamer it ballsed up my hoary - had to reinstall again03:42
jbaileybborkk: Mmm.  I'm guessing that filing a bug on xmms saying that for Hoary it needs to have libmikmod2 in its depends field until Hoary.03:42
timothy_hey, I'm trying to use Azureus, and when configuring my connection I get this error message: Testing port 6881 ... NAT Error03:42
timothy_. Can anyone help? another port to try?03:42
jbaileySince libmikmod2 is part of gstreamer0.8-plugins, I don't think it's that big of a deal.03:42
bborkkdaniels: okay.  cheers.03:43
bebekadmittedly, i installed the fglrx from ati, instead from ubuntu repository.. and that conflicts with the xlibmesa-gl from ubuntu repository...03:43
r3v3rbtimothy_, is 6881 open on your firewall ?03:43
bebekhow do i make apt-get so that it does not update xlibmesa-gl ?03:43
bborkkjbailey: Not a bad idea.  Should I do that?03:43
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r3v3rbwho's canonical here by the way ?03:43
IRCMarkhi I've a problem03:44
bborkkr3v3rb: The company behind Ubuntu.03:44
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r3v3rbjust want to congratulate you all for a lovely linux experience even with the bugs03:44
IRCMarkmy synaptics says i've a damaged packet03:44
r3v3rb:)03:44
r3v3rbi know who canonical is - but who here works for them bborkk03:44
IRCMarkmy synaptics says i've a damaged packet, how can I solve the problem?03:44
bborkkr3v3rb: Ah.  I can only guess.  Not me.03:45
bebekmy glxgears shows 761.600 FPS.. is that normal for a computer with 3d acceleration card?03:45
jbaileybborkk: Yeah.  I'd put a note in there refering to http://bugs.debian.org/21935203:45
jbaileybebek: It's faster than non-accellerated in most cases, but slower than I'd expect if everything were working optimally.  If you have an AGP card, it might have been forced into PCI mode for some reason.03:46
bebeki have a pci express card..03:46
IRCMarkmy synaptics says i've a damaged packet, how can I solve the problem?03:46
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jbaileybebek: I don't know anything about PCI Express, sorry.03:47
guimtritium, I install k3b03:47
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guimand it works03:47
bebekjbailey: where are you from? you sounds familiar...03:47
mz2hmm, java programs crashes when i switch back to the workspace on which i'm running them03:47
bebekjbailey: i know someone from my uni with login jbailey03:47
mz2crash03:47
mz2or rather, they don't literally crash, but they stop updating the UI03:48
jbaileybebek: My name isn't terribly unique. =)  I live in Toronto, used to live in Vancouver, and I attend the University of Athabasca (Distance Ed)03:48
jbaileybebek: So its' probably not me. =)03:48
bebekoh ok...03:48
bebekhehehe03:48
bebeki know james bailey, a lecturer from my uni03:48
bebek:P03:48
bebekwhat is meant by "The following packages have been kept back:" while performing apt-get upgrade?03:49
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imphello to all, sorry for my english but i have few questions :) about my ubuntu settings :)03:53
impcan any help my ?03:53
ZorroBytesimp: just ask.03:54
surrounderimp: I could give it a try :)03:54
impok :)03:54
impthx03:54
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r3v3rbbye guys03:54
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imphow can i make my pc auto shutdown ... try all options with apm etc ... but no result :(03:55
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Examancercrontab?03:56
membreyastupid question..but how do you start a program with a set priority? ie 0?03:56
mz2this is with random swing apps. they just stop updating the ui (resizing the window or anything doesn't have any effect either)03:56
snowblinkmembreya: nice03:57
tritiumguim, sorry, I got caught up with work.  Good, I'm glad you have a solution.03:57
Examancerimp: just add a crontab for the shutdown command, and schedule it whenever you want03:57
tritiumpetteri, still unable to reach the machine?03:58
bebekmembreya: i don't think normal user have the privilege to start a process with priority 0... i could be wrong though..03:58
guimyep03:58
membreyasnowblink: but from a bashscript? how would I configure it?03:58
petteriHmm03:58
petteriI dont need anymore help03:58
petteriThank you03:58
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guimcould be nice to work with nautilus instead03:58
tritiumpetteri, sorry, got caught up with work.  What was the problem?03:58
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guimbut at least my cd is burned03:58
membreyajust my boinc is starting with a very low priority which means my athlon 64 steps down to 1ghz03:58
petteriNothing anymore :)03:58
tritiumguim, yes, I agree03:58
membreyaI have to reset it to 0 each time a WU starts03:58
petteriI have fixed problem ;>03:59
snowblinkmembreya: off the top of me head, I don't know. Maybe look at expect03:59
tritiumpetteri, but what was causing it before?03:59
impthis question -> http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/post-157440.html03:59
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membreyalol tritium i got one cd burnt before..now it refuses to show the cd burner again in k3b or nautilus.. I give up for today03:59
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imphow make pc auto power off after shutdown03:59
tritiummembreya, :(03:59
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bebekimp: i had that problem before as well. but after upgrading to hoary, the problem is solved...04:00
bebekimp: are you still using warty?04:00
impyep :(04:00
impjust upgrade ?04:00
bebekimp: umm... don't ask me... hehehe... so far i don't have any problem with hoary...04:00
imp:) lucky :)04:01
imptry tomorrow04:01
impthx ;)04:01
bebekgood luck04:01
bebekno prob04:01
impand printing question04:01
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bborkkjbailey, daniels: bug report submitted.  thanks.04:01
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impon first PC installed HP LaserJet-5L ... over network try using cups print documents from Second PC, ipp://<first>/printers/laserjet-5l ... no result :(04:02
AcidMaXanyone using Hoary? and how stable is it right now?04:03
bborkkAcidMaX: I like it.04:04
tritiumAcidMaX, quite good04:04
bborkkvery usable.04:04
membreyahmmm with oo.o how do I get it to automatically place the icons back in gnome?04:04
AcidMaXI installed Warty last night so I am a first time ubuntu user :) but I would like to have the newer software and such that hoary is using.04:04
ErsatzHatrackAcidMax: I just did a clean install and it's working great so far.04:05
ErsatzHatrackbut04:05
bborkkAcidMaX: Check out the FAQ on updating from Warty to Hoary.04:05
ErsatzHatracki had tried to upgrade from warty before and it ended up borked04:05
AcidMaXyeh I would do a fresh install04:05
AcidMaXi just installed Warty last night so its not that big of a deal.04:05
ErsatzHatrackprobably something i did, since I'm a newbie too04:05
impgl to all ;)04:05
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AcidMaXtrying to find a good distro, so far ubuntu seems fast, but been thinking about trying gentoo as well.04:06
bebekhmmm.. after apt-get upgrade, my theme in gnome does not work anymore04:06
bebekis this a bug in the repository?04:06
bebekand all out of sudden there are 3 new icons in the desktop: Computer, Document and Trash..04:06
bebekalso all the icons in the bottom panel of the window are gone04:07
surrounderbborkk: where is that FAQ ?04:07
bebekby the way, does anyone know how to turn on the DMA for my dvd drive?04:07
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surrounderhallo Dutchy04:08
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blah09hi is there like a gnome applet to control xmms?04:09
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manobesblah09: You could try gdesklets.04:15
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bborkksurrounder: Actually, I have no idea where that FAQ is located.  Huh.04:17
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surrounder:)04:18
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jaiaAnyone got a clue as to where I can find my USB drive ?04:25
jaiaWould it be at /media/usb ? Or /media/sda ?04:26
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Stereotype /dev/sda04:26
jaiaAh04:26
poningruit should hotplug04:26
jaiaIt doesn't..04:26
jaiaIt's an ntfs drive.04:26
jaiaWould that explain why ?04:26
dr_willishmm.04:27
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dr_willisusb hard drive? or memory stick?04:27
jaiaUSB04:27
jaiaExternal Hardrive.04:27
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toresbehar drive?  repository of bad jokes? (like this one? :P)04:28
dr_willischeck dmesg output. and perhaps 'fdisk -l' and "mount" - see if its seen/mounted anywhere04:28
blah09thanks manobes04:28
robstahi04:28
robstaafter upgrade to hoary i can't login any more04:28
robsta.xsession-errors doesn't tell about stuff failing04:29
jaiaYep, it's on /dev/sda according to fdisk -l04:29
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dr_willisbut the partions should be like sda1 sda2 and so forth.04:30
jaiaThere is an sda104:31
jaiaBut it doesn't show the content of it.04:31
jaiaSo I'm guessing it doesn't mount it with ntfs properties and such.04:31
MartokHey, can anyone help me configure my serial mouse? I don't know how to load the modules for it.04:32
MartokOr find which module I need for that matter.04:32
dr_williseww :P04:32
dr_willisi cant even rember taht04:32
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MartokI'm using the serial mouse in an experiment.04:32
dr_willisjaia,  could manually mount the thing. read only.04:32
jaiaPerhaps I should update hotplug.04:32
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jaiadr_willis, I will try that if this fails.04:33
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dr_willisif manyally mounting it fails.. its more then Hotplug that needs to be worked on.04:37
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jaiaInstalling the new hotplug worked :)04:37
Jeltehi there... does anyone know if the Windows2000 install from CD will allow you to select one partition and one only?  I know its a sacrilege, but i need to make my ubuntu machine dual boot....04:37
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evarlastJelte: yes, it always has, and it is the default.04:38
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[bascule] Jelte, sure s00 will do that, it will also wipe out lilo/grub so have the CD handy to rescue it04:39
Jelte[bascule] , aahh that sounds a little harsh...04:39
[bascule] well that's windows for you04:39
Jelte[bascule] , so install windows on an empty partition and rerun ubuntu cd?04:39
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dr_williswindows has always trashed the mbr. :()04:39
dr_williswell they put on a nice clean NEW mbr for ya. :P04:40
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[bascule] yeah, I'm new to ubuntu so i unno what the rescue options are04:40
[bascule] you may need to chroot ubuntu and redo the bootloader from there04:40
lucienjaia,04:40
lucienSlet.04:40
Jelteanyone? i dont particularly want to re-install my ubuntu stuff... will the cd repair the mbr and leave the rest ok?04:40
lucienDownload de updates, dan wordt hotplug ook automatisch geinstalleerd.04:40
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dr_willisJelte,  if not you can get to a shell and chroot to the isntalled system and rerun the boot loader installer.04:41
floschhi04:42
nosilver4ustill wondering if anyone has had any luck with the xorg fglrx drivers?04:42
Jeltedr_willis, that sounds good... you wouldn't happen to know where i could find some more detailed description of those steps would you?04:42
dr_willisJelte,  not really.. learned it soo long ago.. and done it soo many times.. :P04:42
dr_willisbut not had to do it in the last year.04:43
Jeltedr_willis, *grin* fair enough04:43
dr_williswith lilo its rather trivial.. with grub - just as easy.. but you need to know grub :P04:43
dr_willisnot sure what helper tools ubuntui has in that area04:43
dr_willisor make a boot disk :P04:43
[bascule] http://enterprise.linux.com/enterprise/04/11/18/232240.shtml?tid=102&tid=10104:44
[bascule] seems reasonable to me .. :)04:44
Hwolfnosilver4u, those drivers work ok.04:44
Jeltedr_willis, ta04:44
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jaiaYay, I just had my first crash on linux.04:47
jaia:D04:47
bborkkdaniels, jbailey: Okay, I just rebooted after installing libmikmod2.  Starting xmms doesn't return any warnings now.  However, it still hangs as soon as I try to play anything.04:48
jaialucien, probleem is opgelost door de nieuwe hotplug ja.04:48
danielsbborkk: try running killall esd04:48
jaiabeep-media-player hung when I tried to play an mp3 as well04:48
jaia:(04:48
jaiaAnd rhythmbox is whining about nothing being associated with mp3 files.04:49
bborkkdaniels: Bingo.  ???04:49
jaiaActually, rhytmbox instantly closes now when I tried to load any mp3's into it.04:49
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jbaileybborkk: Is this a fresh Ubunut install, or a Debian upgrade?04:50
AcidMaXis there a good PHP IDE for gnome?04:50
bborkkjbailey: It started as a Warty fresh install and I upgraded to Hoary a couple of months ago.04:50
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jbaileybborkk: Hmm.  So permissions and stuff are likely all still fine and such then.04:51
bborkkjbailey: Most likely.04:51
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bborkkjbailey: The only non-standard (i.e., not through apt) things I've done are compile and install a .deb of MPlayer and install the Java plugin for Firefox.04:52
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jbaileybborkk: I had problems like that once before when I was having OSS emulation issues with Alsa.  Try doing a 'mv ~/.xmms ~/.xmms-old' and rerunning it and see if the problem recurs.04:53
MartokCan anybody help me modprobe my serial mouse and load the module please?04:53
bborkkjbailey: What exactly is esd?04:53
MartokIt's a sound daemon.04:53
bborkkMartok: What exactly is the problem?04:53
jbaileybborkk: enlightenment sound daemon.  It processes sound events and muxes them towards your sound card.04:53
Martokbborkk: I need to modprobe my serial mouse and load the module, but I don't know how.04:54
MartokI want to use 2 mice for my Ubuntu setup.04:54
MartokI already have the ps/2 mouse setup, it was detected in the install, but the serial mouse wasn't.04:54
bborkkjbailey: Speaking of which, all my system alarm bells have somehow been mapped to the entire screen flashing, like a refresh, but no sound event.04:54
tritiummodprobe sermouse04:55
Martoktritium: Thanks, you helped me before.04:55
jbaileybborkk: Err.  Tha'ts a new one to me. =)04:55
tritiumMartok, :)04:55
LinuxJonesMartok, have you seen >> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SerialMouseHowto/view?searchterm=serial%20mouse04:55
bborkkMartok: type "lsmod" to see which modules are loaded.04:55
[bascule] probably have to add the mouse to xorg.conf to04:55
tritiumMartok, it modprobe works, don't forget to add sermouse to your /etc/modules04:55
bborkkjbailey: Yeah, it's really annoying.04:55
MartokLinuxJones: Yeah, you told me yesterday, but that was for using the serial mouse as your primary device.04:55
bborkkjbailey: So, why did I have to killall esd?04:56
jbaileybborkk: Did you try moving the config of xmms out of the way first?04:56
jbaileybborkk: See whether or not there's something weird in there.04:56
bborkkjbailey: Okay.  One sec.04:56
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christianphi all04:56
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Timbothe sooner alsa takes over with a software mixer enabled by default the better04:57
sridwhere do I get zope interfaces for Ubuntu?04:57
davidcannot get sound to work after I upgrade to Hoary04:57
christianpi installed ubuntu over my laptop, i add battery display status in my panel, but it says N/D (no battery present)04:58
bborkkjbailey: I moved .xmms.  Didn't look like there was anything unusual in there: config  menurc  Plugins  Skins  xmms.m3u04:58
christianpwhat's the matter?04:58
bborkkchristianp: Is there actually a battery?  :)04:58
christianpyes :)04:58
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bborkkchristianp: What kind of laptop is it?04:59
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christianpacer aspire 167004:59
Martoktritium: Don't I have to add this to my XF86config file?04:59
bborkkchristianp: Can't help you there.  You might want to check the laptop forum/list (?)04:59
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tritiumMartok, yeah, you should do that too.05:00
bborkkjbailey: So, should I reboot and see what happens?05:00
christianpbborkk, no05:00
christianpbborkk, have i to install some additional package?05:00
bborkkchristianp: Come again?05:00
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bborkkchristianp: You might want to check http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=1905:02
bborkkoh well.05:02
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AcidMaXdoes gnome support superkaramba like kde? or is there something similar?05:05
surroundergdesklets maybe?05:05
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surrounderAcidMaX: http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/05:06
AcidMaXsurrounder, looks like that might be it, cpu monitors etc.05:06
surrounder:)05:06
AcidMaXthanks.05:06
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Dreamer3ok05:06
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Dreamer3can't seem to mount a smb filesystem...05:06
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srikathow many GB should a partition for ubuntu be and what filesystem should it be? (I am about to partition using partition magic)05:07
SchaapHi, i installed ubuntu on an old pc  ('96 i believe) but it doesnt see the full 20 gig HD i added next to the 4 gig already in there05:07
SchaapIs it a bios thing?05:07
Schaapor hardware05:07
djkhave you mounted it?05:07
SchaapNah i checked the bios first05:08
Schaapit showed 8 from the 2005:08
mjg59The BIOS won't see more than 805:09
Schaapwell, give or take a MB05:09
MartokDoes anybody know the protocal for serial mice?05:09
Dreamer3ah, need smbfs05:09
Dreamer3didn't tell me that05:09
djkwow, old PC.05:09
SchaapBut ubunto will?05:09
djkmaybe you need to update your bios05:09
Schaapu05:09
SchaapYeah, thought so05:09
srikathow many GB should a partition for ubuntu be and what filesystem should it be? (I am about to partition using partition magic)05:09
mjg59Schaap: Yeah, Ubuntu ought to see it fine05:09
Schaapneed to find out how that bios thing works :)05:10
Schaapgreat :)05:10
mjg59Is anyone else getting strange messages from carelos when they say something?05:10
srikatwow. I am invisible05:10
zeedotest05:10
srikatyes mjg5905:10
zeedomjg59: nothing happened for me there05:10
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LinuxJonessrikat, folks are probably doing other things05:10
[PoVal] DutchyE: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporari ly unavailable) <= what does that mean? i doesnt give a message of how to fix it05:11
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bborkkjbailey: I rebooted and still have the same problem, even though I moved the .xmms folder.05:11
LinuxJonessrikat, is this a desktop system ?05:11
srikatyes Jones, currently NTFS partition05:11
evarlastlol reboot.05:11
LinuxJonessrikat, have you used Linux before ?05:12
jbaileybborkk: Yuck, ah well.  My next guess is probably some sort of broken bits with the sound setup.  Does rhythmbox work at all?05:12
srikatno05:12
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LinuxJonessrikat, to keep it simple 10 gigs05:12
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bborkkjbailey: Rhythmbox seems to be working, although it wasn't a couple of weeks ago.05:12
MartokArg, I'm just going to use Dynebolic for this PC. Maybe I'll put Ubuntu on my next desktop...05:12
srikatit is C drive, NTFS parition. I want to split it so one part is for Linux and another part is for data storage of windows XP (which is on D drive)05:13
srikatsome Team dude is spamming in PM05:13
MartokYeah, but what the heck is he spamming?05:13
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bborkksrikat: I got that as well.05:13
MartokIt seemed like he messed up the advertisement.05:13
jbaileybborkk: Okay.  I think xmms has an alsa driver in there, but uses OSS by default.05:13
LinuxJonessrikat, have you tried the Live CD to see if you might like Linux ?05:13
MartokIn order to effectively use Linux, it must like YOU!05:14
bborkkjbailey: How would it know when to switch and why isn't it doing so?05:14
jbaileybborkk: IT doesn't, it's a manual setting.05:14
srikatI tried some knoppi in past. It was ok. Now I have free time so want to learn something new05:14
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jbaileybborkk: Bring up the prefererences and look to see what Output Plugin is set to.05:14
toresbehmm05:14
bborkkjbailey: Okay.05:14
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LinuxJonessrikat, 10 gig will be fine for you to get installed.05:15
srikatok, and the partition type?05:15
[bascule] [PoVal] Dutchy, make sure yiu haven't got synaptic running at the same time as CLI attemtps to apt-get05:15
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LinuxJonessrikat, stick with ext3, but you can do that in the Ubuntu installer05:15
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[bascule] other thatn that track down the lock file in /var/cache/apt or /var/lock/05:15
bborkkjbailey: OSS driver 1.2.1005:15
jbaileybborkk: Okay.  Try changing it to alsa, close and reopoen, see if that fixes it.05:16
[PoVal] Dutchywell i never use synaptic :o it's gotta be something else :)05:16
mjtanyone know what's up with hoary repository -- 2nd day now ?  I can't apt-get update, it complains about MD5Sum mismatch for Packages.gz files...05:17
srikatLinuxJones, so Ubuntu will detect that my computer has C and D drive, and if I choose to install ubuntu to C, does it provide me an option to split that C drive into one 10 MB chunk and ubuntu get installed in it?05:17
srikat10 GB*05:18
bborkkjbailey: ** WARNING **: alsa_setup(): Failed to open pcm device (default): Device or resource busy05:18
LinuxJonessrikat, yes you can add or remove partitions and reformat. Use partition Magic to free up the space05:19
mjtsrikat: if you have some unpartitioned space in your "C:" drive, you will be able to partition it05:19
bborkkjbailey: Also, gives me a dialog box saying I should check: the soundcard is configured properly, correct output plugin is selected, no other program is blocking the soundcard.05:19
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MartokI hope the Hoary detects serial mice!05:19
Guardiannbborkk my xmms is set for esound05:19
[bascule] [PoVal] Dutchy, yeah and all the google hits are debian, I'm new to apt but rpm/urpmi does the same/similar thing05:20
jbaileybborkk: Hmm.  I don't have an good guess then off hand.  Strange that rhythmbox would play and that xmms wouldn't.05:20
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MartokI can't believe I still can't get my serial mouse to work. It's just a mouse! Haha.05:20
[bascule] it's a lock file somewhere that needs removed05:20
bborkkGuardiann, jbailey: I'll try that out.  How would I know this without trial and error?05:20
manobesMartok: get a usb mouse05:20
cmghi.. i am having trouble getting my Ubuntu box to work with DHCP.. any idea why its not picking up its domain name?05:21
LinuxJonesMartok, usb mice are like $ 5.00 :D05:21
manobeshttp://www.softwareandstuff.com/ACC10690.html05:21
Martokmanobes: No, I've already built something out of my serial mouse.05:21
GuardiannEsound was trial and error for me :)05:21
jbaileybborkk: Well.  The issue is generally that the sound driver seems to be hooped for some reason.  The hard part is figuring out which reason.05:21
mjtMartok: try sudo modprobe sermouse05:21
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bborkkGuardiann, jbailey: esound is the answer... thanks!05:21
jbaileybborkk: It works out of the box in most settings.05:21
Guardiannyw05:21
Martokmjt: I did, but it still didn't work.05:21
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srikatLinuxJones, mjt: thanks05:21
mjtMartok: does it recognizes your mouse in the first place (try dmesg) ?05:21
MartokI've already built my serial mouse into something, I can't easily replace it with a USB mouse.05:21
bborkkjbailey: Thanks for all your help.05:21
cmgi am having trouble getting my Ubuntu box to work with DHCP.. any idea why its not picking up its domain name?05:22
zazlinuxhi everybody, i just installed ubuntu and my com1 mouse don't run, anybody know how turn on it? i'm novice, sorry05:22
mjtMartok: also, is mousedev module loaded?05:22
Martokmjt: Dynebolic recognizes it.05:22
MartokYeah.05:22
jbaileybborkk: Glad I could contribute.05:22
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manobescmg: does ifconfig show your ethernet card?05:22
bborkkjbailey: Now it's time to file a bug report on my flashing screen.  :)05:22
cmgmanobes.. yes05:23
MartokI think I'll just use Dynebolic on this PC instead of Ubuntu. I've had problems other then mice with Ubuntu.05:23
cmgmanobes.. i can use it fine.. i just can't get to it (by name) from any other box05:23
lucienWhen I try to apt-get update my server list after adding merillat, or whatever it's called, I get an error that the public key is not available. Anyone knows how to solve that ?05:24
manobescmg: What do you mean?  You want to log into it?05:24
cmgmanobes.. i can only access it by IP05:25
[bascule] cmg, you need to add it's name to the other machines /etc/hosts , unless you have a lcal DNS server05:25
cmgi have a local DNS server.. using DHCP05:25
zazlinuxhi everybody, i just installed ubuntu and my com1 mouse don't run, anybody know how turn on it? i'm novice, sorry05:25
[bascule] OK, beyond me then ...05:26
LinuxJoneslucien, are you on Hoary ?05:26
lucienYes.05:26
manobescmg: and it works with other machines?05:26
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LinuxJoneslucien, >> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptAuthenticationInstructionsForHoary/view?searchterm=public%20key05:26
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lucienThank you.05:26
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FauxPasIIII'm having some trouble with apt pinning... anybody help ?05:26
cmgall my Windoz boxes work with it..and my MEPIS Linux box works with it... but using DHCP with Ubuntu isn't working (although assigning a static IP works fine)05:26
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LinuxJonescmg, if you assign static ip addressing then you don't need DHCP05:27
bborkkMy system alarm sound event seems to be mapped to a refresh of my entire screen in an annoying flash.  No sound results.  Anyone else have this problem, know its cause, or know how to fix it?05:27
Guardiannzazlinux  try here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2661&highlight=serial+mouse+work05:27
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cmgLinux.. i know.. but for this box i need to use DHCP05:27
brunobonjour05:27
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missmarplehello05:28
cmgmy NOC doesnt like giving out static IP's05:28
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brunohello missmarple05:28
LinuxJonescmg, network-admin should get you fixed up05:28
FauxPasIIIbborkk - It's called "Visual Bell"05:28
Guardiannbborkk sorry not me05:28
missmarplehello bruno05:28
missmarplecan anyone help me with installation via PXE?05:28
FauxPasIIIbborkk - It's probably set by your desktop environment05:28
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FauxPasIIIbborkk - What are you using ?05:28
bborkkFauxPasIII: Standard Hoary setup.05:29
cmgLinux-Jones.. i tried.. i can add a domain name.. but when I reboot, it updates everything from DHCP and then its gone05:29
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manobescmg: Can you set the server to give it the correct information?05:30
FauxPasIIIbborkk - open up gnome-control-center05:30
cmgno05:30
FauxPasIIIbborkk - in the sound applet05:30
Dreamer3any tips on mounting samba shares? i keep getting: cp: cannot create regular file `accessories.html': Input/output error05:30
FauxPasIIIbborkk - third tab is "system bell"05:30
FauxPasIIIbborkk - I'll bet that's where it's set wrong05:30
LinuxJonescmg, your trying to add some other static routes to local services but need dhcp for ipaddress right ?05:30
cmgno..i just want to use DHCP to get myself assigned an IP, domain name, etc05:31
[bascule] DNCP assigns domain names? I never knew that.05:31
manobesIt's the job of the dhcp server to give the box that information though.05:31
[bascule] H*05:31
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cmgmanobes.. exactly05:31
cmgand its not05:31
zazlinuxhi everybody, i just installed ubuntu and my com1 mouse don't run, anybody know how turn on it? i'm novice, sorry05:31
manobesso the problem is server side.05:32
cmgbut it does to any other box.. just not to this Ubuntu05:32
Guardiannzazlinux did you check that site i posted for you05:32
zazlinuxno, and without mouse i can't read up05:32
LinuxJonescmg, that's a server config problem, dhcp can be configured to assign that stuff by using MAC address if your nice to the network admin he might help you out :D05:32
cmgthats not an option ;)05:32
LinuxJonesheh05:32
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bborkkFauxPasIII: Ahhh.... that's so much better.  I can feel my sanity creeping back.  Thanks.05:32
Dreamer3any tips on mounting samba shares? i keep getting: cp: cannot create regular file `accessories.html': Input/output error?05:33
FauxPasIIIbborkk - Glad to help !05:33
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cmgLinuxJones.. if the domain doesnt come from DHCP, then i set it myself?05:33
ninHerhi all05:33
LinuxJonescmg, this is a "Secret Install" ?05:33
cmgbasically05:33
cmglol05:33
LinuxJonesomg dude don't do it you can get fired for it :(05:33
[bascule] ah, clearer now05:33
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ninHeri have a problem minimizing with ubuntu05:33
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ninHerdoes anyone why?05:33
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ninHeranything i minimize, dissappear05:34
missmarpleanyone here with knowledge about netboot installation?05:34
cmgthe prob is when I set the domain in network-admin.. after I reboot, its gone05:34
manobescmg: you cold try poking around in /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf there's a "send host name" option in there05:34
cmgso i assumed DHCP was overwriting it05:34
zerovertexhello all. I'm a ubuntu/debian newbie. recently converted from redhat/fedora/yellowdog. me lika the ubuntu. you guys rocks.05:34
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maximauscmg: you are a candidate for a "live CD" LOL05:34
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Dreamer3my user account is josh but on the samba server it's jgoebel, is that a problem?05:35
LinuxJonescmg, it will get overwritten probably by default yeah05:35
Dreamer3i'm connected with -o username=jgoebel05:35
Dreamer3:q05:35
SchaapJosh Goebel05:35
cmgLinuxJones.. so thats my prob.. how do i fix it?05:35
Dreamer3Schaap: great, but do you have an answer to my question :)05:35
manobescmg: I think if you edit that config file it'll send the hostname to the DHCP server.05:35
cmgk manobes.. i'll have a look05:36
SchaapNope05:36
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Dreamer3sheesh05:39
Dreamer3this is very annoying05:39
Dreamer3linux to linux should i just be using nfs?05:39
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LinuxJonesDreamer3, you can use nfs or Samba but for Linux-Linux most usually use nfs05:41
zerovertexi'm reading ubuntuguide.org. does flash plugin for mozilla work on ppc?05:41
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quentinHello, I would like to know how I can setup dhclient so that it sets ubuntu's ntp server through dhcp ( my dhcp server is broadcasting an ntp-server ip )05:41
brunois someone know how to configure a local lan printer ?05:42
LinuxJonesDreamer3, you have to have the same account names on both systems I beileve, I don't have Samba installed so I can't confirm that.05:42
Dreamer3LinuxJones: that's very annoying05:43
iMPhow to make local printer -> lan05:43
LinuxJonesDreamer3, have you looked @ the samba hoto ?05:43
LinuxJonesDreamer3, >> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba/view?searchterm=samba05:43
Dreamer3LinuxJones: no, but it worked find under debian before with the same names and i've had issues in the past, so i imagine that's it05:44
LinuxJonesDreamer3, well good luck anyways :)05:44
missmarplemhh05:46
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njs12345daniels, you here?05:46
danielssort of05:46
[Spooky] yo! yo! anyone good with lftp ?05:46
njs12345you do the maintaining for the X packages right?05:46
danielsyeah05:46
njs12345just wondering, will the next releases of all the X packages have the pkg-config files in them?05:46
[Spooky] i cant seem too download dirs, is that not possible ?05:47
danielsnjs12345: nope05:47
njs12345oh, ok..05:47
njs12345guess I'll have to keep hacking the .pc files from xlibs CVS then05:48
danielsthat's a modular-tree thing05:48
danielsyeah05:48
danielsor just install xlibs from cvs ;)05:48
ninHeranyone experiencing "vanishing windows" at minimizing?05:48
njs12345I guess ;)05:48
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ubunrot2how i isntall my sound card05:49
cmgmanobes.. i saw the options in that conf file and that didn't seem to work05:49
cmganyways.. i found a hostname/IP i can borrow05:49
cmghow do I go back to the Ubuntu setup to rename my machine?05:49
cmgso the hostname i assign it's IP to matches the actual host name05:50
floaterI think I need to set up some authorities... I am trying to run gedit but it says "authentication refused.." I am trying to open it as a root on user login. I have already read the manual of xauth but I don't know what should I set and how,anyone?05:50
danielsfloater: use sudo05:50
cmganyone know how to run the Ubunto setup again?05:50
[Spooky] i cant seem too download dirs with "lftp", is that not possible ? or are i doing a cmd the wrong way ?05:51
ninHeranyone experiencing "vanishing windows" at minimizing?05:51
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njs12345ja.. `sudo gedit` works well05:51
njs12345anybody build Xgl on ubuntu? it looked kinda cool, so that's what I'm trying now05:51
floaterdaniels, that doesn't work05:51
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iMP>> how installl Ubuntu print-server ?05:52
LinuxJonesfloater, you need to be in the account that actually did the install of Ubuntu05:52
floaterI mean, I can open the file with sudo, but I get that error in terminal05:52
HaloGrayI'm begining to get annoyed with rebuilding my wireless driver for every kernel update05:52
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HaloGrayis there any way I could slipstream the process?05:52
manobescmg: just use network-admin05:52
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cmgmanobes.. that will just rename the host name for networking05:53
floaterwell there's something funny.. I am new linux user so :S but I can't really login to my ubuntu with root... I used "root" as user name in redhat but in ubuntu I just can't login to ubuntu as root05:53
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surrounderfloater: sudo passwd root05:53
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HaloGrayubuntu has root disabled for security purposes05:53
surrounderfloater: or just use sudo for everything :)05:53
manobescmg: You can set the IP in there as well, no?05:53
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cmgyes05:54
floatersudo/root ... hmm ok05:54
cmgand i will.. but i also want to change the host name other places05:54
HaloGraytype sudo command goes here05:54
ficusplanetHey everyone.  Seeing as the feature freeze is today, does anyone know if usplash is going to make it in?05:54
HaloGrayand it will give root access05:54
manobes/etc/hosts05:54
cmgi hate having the misnamed box where it appears on the network as one thing05:54
[Spooky] hm i guess lftp cant download dirs then :/ ...05:54
HaloGrayfeature freeze?05:54
cmgbut thinks its name is something else05:54
iMPjust type in console <sudo><your command>05:54
cmgmanobes.. etc/hosts.. same thing05:54
njs12345HaloGray: think.. only new things that make it into Hoary are bugfixes and such05:54
HaloGrayah05:55
cmgi'll just rebuild it.. thanks05:55
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HaloGrayI hope the fix the audio issue with esd05:55
cmgmanobes.. do u know how to re-run setup05:55
cmgat the end of the ubuntu install it tells u05:55
cmgi just dont know05:55
iMPwhat is current version of Ububntu ?05:55
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njs12345iMP: depends05:56
ficusplanet4.10 - Warty Warthod05:56
ficusplanet*Warthog05:56
LinuxJonescmg, dpkg-reconfigure base-config ??05:56
njs12345Warty Warthog is the "stable" version, which you'd give to your parents and so on05:56
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cmgk i'll try05:56
iMPand unstable ?05:56
njs12345Hoary Hedgehog is the unstable version, which is what all the devs and bleeding-edge people run05:56
iMPhow fix in Warty release auto power off after shutdown ?05:57
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Dreamer3ok05:58
Dreamer3if my user accounts have DIFFERENT names and uids, what's the best way to share files between systems?05:58
Dreamer3making sure my uid and name are the same on all systems is getting frustrating...05:58
HaloGrayisn't there a chgroup cmmand for that?05:58
manobesDreamer, nfs05:58
HaloGraychgroup users or something?05:58
HaloGraythat way anybody with user access can access files05:58
Dreamer3manobes: don't uid's have to line up for nfs to work?05:59
Hwolfor just chmod those files.05:59
manobesDreamer3: or just use "open location" in nautilus05:59
Dreamer3manobes: smb doesn't work because the user names are different (that's got to be it)05:59
Dreamer3manobes: it worked fine on debian, but usernames matched05:59
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manobesDreamer3: Just open it with ssh...06:00
manobeswith nautilus, just open ssh://user@host06:00
Dreamer3manobes: so mount it with ssh you mean?06:00
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Dreamer3start thinking console and not gnome :)06:01
Dreamer3i'm not a GUI guy always06:01
manobesDreamer3: as far as nautilus is concerned it'll look mounted, but it's not, it's using ssh (or sftp) to transfer files06:01
manobesDreamer3: nor am I, but that's the easiest way I can think of06:01
Dreamer3manobes: ssh has a filesystem thingy now06:01
manobesDreamer3: You could try sftp06:01
manobesBut the nautilus way will work, so it might be faster to just do it and be done.06:02
Dreamer3but of course ubuntu doesn't build that module :(06:02
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Dreamer3manobes: i do this everyday06:02
Dreamer3manobes: i need console access06:02
manobes:(06:02
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manobesDreamer3: You'll have to dig in the nfs manpages then.  There are ways to make it work if you have differnt uid's, but I don't know how.06:03
SwissPhoenixDreamer3: what fs thingy? sftp? it's not an fs...06:03
Dreamer3SwissPhoenix: shfs06:03
willhow do i run a script at gdm startup06:03
Dreamer3SwissPhoenix: mounting filesystems over SSH06:03
willor even, how do i autorun a command when x/gnome starts up?06:05
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Dreamer3maybe it's not part of the stock kernel06:06
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SwissPhoenixDreamer3: it simulates a fs on the client site... life ftpfs... but it's by way nothing like nfs... e.g. it does not provide file locking06:06
Dreamer3there was a source package for buildling the module, so we'll see how it goes06:06
LinuxJoneswill, gnome-session-properties06:06
manobeswill: in the Sessions part of the preferences menu, there is a tab for startup programs06:06
Dreamer3SwissPhoenix: good point, but don't need that now... :)06:06
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aankhraHi!06:07
willLinuxJones, manobes: thanks!06:07
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iMPUbuntu as Network Print-Server -> reality or fantstic ?06:07
aankhrawhere can i get more software for ubuntu?06:08
srikatLinuxJones: can you pls look at this --> http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=28291806:08
SwissPhoenixDreamer3: I also wonder what happens if you do a "tail -n 1" on a 1GB file - will it transfer the whole 1GB? or is it able to seek on the remote file?06:08
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ficusplanetaankhra, Go to ubuntuguide.org06:08
SwissPhoenixiMP: just use cups...06:08
aankhraficusplanet: thanks, i look06:09
willokay i have this problem in ubuntu using the build in sound on a 815 chipset, all sound plays extremely fast06:09
SwissPhoenixand could someone please tell me for what reason the web front end in cups has been disabled?06:10
iMPSwissPhoenix: troubles ... installed LaserJet 5L, how connect others workstations to print ? cannot print over cups ... no result :(06:10
Pointwoodare most people using the extra repositories too? I would like to get Firefox 1.0 and more but would like to know that I can be resonable sure of not breaking my system06:10
quentinHello, I would like to know how I can setup dhclient so that it sets ubuntu's ntp server through dhcp ( my dhcp server is broadcasting an ntp-server ip )06:10
LinuxJonessrikat, you can do that in partition magic06:11
missmarpleok i solved my problem on my own .. so cu guys ;-)06:11
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scizzoPointwood: maybe try the backports?06:11
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SwissPhoenixiMP: well - your server has to listen on all interfaces (not just localhost) and you have to configure your client to Poll the server... maybe you also need some acl change (haven't done this in a while)06:11
iMPSwissPhoenix, try to set path ipp://<host>/printers/lasejet-5l/06:11
srikatLinuxJones: just wanted to make sure it doesn't mess up the boot loader of windows xp in the D partition06:12
Anubismy it quiet06:12
Pointwoodscizzo: will try that06:12
SwissPhoenixiMP, is your cups actually listening there? (http://<host>:631/)06:12
iMPSwissPhoenix, hm ... try to change, thx ;)06:12
Anubishelllooooo06:12
iMPSwissPhoenix, yep06:13
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bumperlandwhat do I have to do to get the transparent windows in gnon06:13
bumperlandgnone06:14
spiralalu06:14
spiralhi sorry06:14
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manobesbumperland: For what application?06:14
bumperlandthe desktop06:14
[PoVal] Dutchyis there a big difference between linux-image-386 and linux-image-k7 ? i installed the -k7 but with this dist-upgrade it installed a newer version of with -386 again06:15
willi have this problem in ubuntu using the build in sound on a 815 chipset, all sound plays extremely fast06:15
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iMPiMP, :)06:16
manobesbumperland: You need Hoary to do that I think.  The X server in Warty doesn't support transparancy.06:16
XappeDutchy, it upgrades kernel because you have it installed06:16
PointwoodI think I got a new kernel when I updated recently - that will automatically update next time I reboot, right?06:16
ficusplanetright06:16
Pointwoodcool06:16
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SwissPhoenixmanobes: Even if you would have Hoary, the WM needs to support it and Gnome IMHO does not...06:17
Pointwood<-- still very much a n00b, but like it so far :)06:17
SwissPhoenixGNOME Metacity :)06:17
lucienHmm.06:17
[PoVal] Dutchyit didnt upgrade the -k7 i have installed, i think06:17
lucienOkay, does someone care to help me with an easy one. For the more adjusted user ?06:17
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lucienI want to know how to change the appearance of my mouse cursor back to the Ubuntu Warty look. Because it sucks in Hoary.06:18
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ficusplanetlucien, Install "gcursor" with synaptic.  It will let you choose cursor themes.06:19
bumperlandshould i take a shot with hoary ?06:19
Pointwooddon't shot hoary!06:19
iMPNeed links or advices about configure Ubuntu as LAN print-server ...06:20
Pointwoodoh...you said 'with'...nm! :p06:20
unpersonSuggestions for a good editor for writing code other than vi/vim and emacs/Xemacs?06:20
bumperland:-)06:21
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cafaHi all.06:21
[PoVal] Dutchynano, gedit :p06:21
unpersongedit seems to lack some nice features like intellegent tabbing.06:21
cafawhat is needed in the kernel for usb devices to automount?06:21
[PoVal] Dutchytrue06:21
unperson[PoVal] Dutchy And nano...lacks a lot of things.  Fine for editing a text file, not good for writing code.06:22
[PoVal] Dutchy^_^06:22
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unpersonI've used nedit in the past, which is probably the defualt choice I'd go back to, but I thought there might be other good choices.06:22
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nosilver4ui'm getting all sorts of weird display issues with the fglrx drivers, any ideas?06:23
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redrumi had problems with the nvidia drivers on my laptop.  had to upgrade to hoary, then to an apt-get update, apt-get upgrade... it's fine now06:24
tarquinhi. stupid question, but I keep reading about xmms on the forums... is it in the basic installation and if so, where?06:24
cafanobody knows?06:24
redrumi don't think xmms is included by default.  I just installed it06:25
tarquinah.06:25
redrumi did 'apt-get xmms'.  i have it now06:25
tarquinis there stuff on the CD that's not installed by default?06:25
tarquindon';t have a net connection :(06:25
Xappehe says in an irc channel06:26
tarquin... using windows06:26
nosilver4uyeah, there's quite a bit actually, if i remember correct06:26
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scizzotarquin: do you really think..._everything_ is included in the CDs?06:26
nosilver4uredrum: i'm using hoary right now, and they just release the fglrx drivers for xorg06:26
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Mixuthello!06:27
tarquinno... but I was just wondering whether there might be some other stuff there06:27
redrumdoes anyone know how to set the default output device for sound?06:28
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bumperlandwhere can I download hoary06:28
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unpersonSomeone more knowledgable can probably advise tarquin how to search for a package on the CD using apt-cache search.06:29
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bborkkDoes anyone use matplotlib, the Matlab-like plotting module for use with Python and numarray?06:30
tarquinusing apt-cache search. << never mind :) I'm just trying it out06:31
Mixuti'm a bit noob on ubuntu, can anyone tell me how can i access readonly files, or where i can find a solution for that problem??i didn't find an answer from ubuntulinux.org06:31
bborkkMixut: Do you want to write them?06:31
Mixutno i need access to sources.list file06:32
tarquinwhere should we file bugs for things like audio CDs etc -- ubuntu or gnome or ... ?06:32
bborkkMixut: Type "man chmod" in a terminal window.06:32
redrumwhen you open the files for editing, do it using sudo...06:32
bborkkMixut: Ah, in that case, you need to use sudo.06:32
bborkksudo emacs /etc/apt/sources.list06:32
Mixutbborkk: thank you very much;)06:33
bborkkno problem06:33
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Schaaphow do i partition and format my new HD ?06:33
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Schaaperm, is there a  tutorial from partitiong all the way to mounting a new HD ?06:34
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bborkkOkay, I'm sick of waiting for other people to update packages.  Where's a good resource for learning how to create a Debian package?06:35
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tkrinhello all.  Has anyone successfully installed Ubuntu on recently released 17" powerbook G4?  I will be getting one soon and am interested in running linux on it.06:35
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tarquinI've just got it running on a Tibook06:35
toubsuis yum the update system in ubuntu?06:35
manobestoubsu: no, it's apt-get06:36
housetiertoubsu, I'd say its apt-get, I think yum is for redhat based distros06:36
tkrintarek_, how was the experience?06:36
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toubsuok06:36
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tkrintarquin I mean. :-/06:36
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tarquininstallation went fine. a few problems with the default stuff though -- eg playing CDs06:37
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tkrinyou have wireless built in, if so did that work out of the box?06:37
tarquinsee for example: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=11173&highlight=audio06:37
tarquinno, I don't have wifi -- but ubuntu's installed a wifi applet in the top panel anyway!06:38
tkrinheh :)06:38
mpqI have a similar problem06:38
tarquinoh and the brightness and volume buttons work06:38
mpqmy wireless isn't enabled in ubuntu06:38
tarquinthough they don't give visual feedback like on OS X06:38
tarquinI meant my PB doesn't have wireless installed -- too old06:38
tkrintarquin, Cool.06:39
[PoVal] Dutchyweird... nvidia-glx requires linux-image-38606:39
tkrintarquin, thanks. :)06:39
AcidMaXwhat sources do I need to add to install the flash player, xmms etc on hoary06:40
mpqI need help enabling my wireless card to work in ubuntu06:40
toubsuis ubuntu based on debian?06:40
AcidMaXtoubsu, yes.06:40
tarquinoh and right-clicking is a pain unless you have a mouse06:40
tarquincan't do CTRL-click06:40
jcoxon77mpq: what is your wireless card?06:41
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mpqNetwork controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM94306 802.11g (rev 03)06:41
tkrintarquin, I almost always use an external mouse, plus I HATE touch pads.06:41
mpqkeep forgetting that ctrl+v doesn't do anything06:41
jcoxon77mpq, you'll probably need ndiswrapper06:42
Burn`does somebody know a good tutorial for dvdrip & ubuntu???06:42
jcoxon77mpq, i use to have one and once set up it worked great06:42
Mixuthmm...helpless me here again.I want to install java1.5.I followed instructions on https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java15 but when i try to execute these two commands, terminal says:bash: fg: %: no such job :(what should i do now??06:42
Schaaperm, is there a  tutorial from partitiong all the way to mounting a new HD ?06:42
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floaterI have a hoary install, is there a guide where I can add extra repositories? the warty help doesn't match all in all06:43
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AcidMaXfloater, I was just asking the same thing :)06:43
AcidMaXno response yet.06:43
floateralright06:43
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LinuxJonesfloater, did you add the universe/multiverse repo's while in Warty ?06:44
floaterI haven't used warty06:44
floaterI haven't even used linux but less than a week06:44
LinuxJonesfloater, you installed form disk tho06:45
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floaterform disk?06:45
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LinuxJonesfloater, sorry from the Warty disc then you upgraded ?06:46
floaterI thought of installing all that multimedia support with that ubuntuguide.org help06:46
manobesfloater: edit /etc/apt/sources.list whenever the Warty help says "warty" substitute "hoary".06:46
floaterno, I burned a hoary iso06:46
mpqerm... I don't understand the install directions for ndiswrapper06:47
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floschhi06:48
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jcoxon77mpq, okay ba06:48
jcoxon77mpq, okay basically are you using warty or hoary?06:48
mpqwarty06:48
Anubissooo firefox is usuless in hoary?06:48
LinuxJonesfloater, gedit /etc/apt/sources.lst  and make the line look like >> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary main restricted universe06:48
Anubiskeeps crashing06:48
Anubisssl sites crash it06:48
jcoxon77mpq, ndiswrapper takes the windows driver and makes it work on linux06:48
Anubislinks to video06:49
LinuxJonesfloater, sorry sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.lst06:49
mpqI got that much06:49
manobesAnubis: It's not a stable release...06:49
mpqbut how do I install it?06:49
floaterok, just checking what lines I have to change from http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories06:49
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jcoxon77mpq, have you looked at https://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/howto/ndiswrapper06:49
floaterI don't see why there's so much to replace since it's almost fully identical06:50
floater1st paragraph etc06:50
LinuxJonesfloater, you need to add universe multivers to the end of the line06:50
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LinuxJonesfloater, god my typing :(06:50
manobesfloater: just change "warty" to "hoary"06:50
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surrounderyup, keep up the good work to all ubuntu-devs, this distro is a little jewel :)06:51
LinuxJonesmanobes, he is running hoary and wants to add more repositories06:51
dejavuhi ... is this the official  UBUNTU linux  channel ?06:51
LinuxJonesdejavu, yeah06:51
HaloGrayofficial unofficial :)06:52
Anubismanobes, should I compile firefox myself?06:52
dejavugood ..06:52
dejavuppl i got a question ..06:52
floaterin my hoarys source.list there is 2x a paragraph ending with universe, and in warty help there is 1x universe and 1x multiverse + there is those 3+1 additional lines in end06:53
dejavui just installed this distro after hearing abt it .. and the thing is that it never asked me for a ROOT PASSWD .06:53
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MeMa|Sorcererhiho06:53
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HaloGrayroot is disabled in ubuntu for security reasons06:53
floaterI don't know if I should replace that one universe paragraph with multiverse since I don't know what they are referring to.. I don't even really know what I am doing06:53
HaloGrayif you want to do something with root permissions type sudo before your command06:53
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HaloGrayand the password it asks for will be the one for your account06:54
dejavuit never asked me what should my Root Passwd should be  during installation and after it ... im just using a normal user without eevn knowing what my RPwd is !06:54
HaloGraythere is no root password06:54
mpqI can't find the driver on the website06:54
manobesfloater: universe and multiverse are two different repositories.  You can have both enabled.06:54
njandejavu, sudo comamndyouwanttoexecuteasroot06:54
njandejavu, or if you're lazy, sudo /bin/bash06:54
jcoxon77mpq, do you have internet access from your ubuntu box?06:54
floatercan I just add extra there ..I think that wouldn't do any harm06:54
mpqyes06:54
njandejavu, then enter *your* password06:54
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surrounderidiot...06:55
mpqow, did anyone get the license plate number on that?06:55
LinuxJoneswhat moron06:55
neighborleelol06:55
lilothat's silly06:55
njanmpq, yeah, 'w4nk3r'06:55
Menaherannand is a random username so is not like you could ban him...asshole06:55
mpqlol06:56
mpqokay, I'm on a wired connection right now06:56
redrum_that was a good one06:56
mpquntil I can set up the wireless card06:56
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jcoxon77mpg, use synaptic to get ndiswrapper06:56
toubsuwas what he was saying true?06:56
njanMenaherann, it was a botnet, there isn't much an op would've been able to do aside moderating the channel and kicking the bots / making the channel invite only and voicing people who aren't bots.06:56
jcoxon77mpg, it doesn't seem to be avaliable on hoary but i'm quite sure that it is on hoary06:56
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AcidMaXalways amazes me what some people do with their free time.06:56
apokryphosHi everyone06:56
njanAcidMaX, indeed.06:57
mpqI'm not using hoary06:57
jcoxon77mpq, i mean warty sorry06:57
apokryphosJust realised that Ubuntu isn't giving me surround sound. What can I do to change that?06:57
Menaherannwhich requeres even MORE effort than the ones you guys are putting now06:57
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Menaherannall rgithy then06:57
redrum_why can't i install 'mplayer' on hoary?06:57
apokryphosredrum_: You can. Apt for it.06:57
[PoVal] Dutchywell, coding irc bots would be quite fun :D06:57
mpqI was trying to download the driver for the card but I can't find it on broadcom's website06:57
HaloGrayI have mplayer working on hoary06:58
floaterhey what those # means in the begin of source.list.... on my hoarys list I have them before every line and in ubuntuguide they aren't there06:58
HaloGraywhat's the issue?06:58
floaterI guess they are useless, so it doesn't matter?06:58
surrounderfloater: comment out06:58
HaloGraympq I was looking too... I can't seem to find any wireless drivers on that site06:58
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HaloGrayI find plenty of ethernet drivers...06:58
dejavuwhat if i want to use base-config .... i need the root passwd for that which i dont have06:58
redrum_E: Broken packages06:58
redrum_"06:58
Menaherannwell, ok guys.... this is my problem:06:58
mpqis there a shortcut for copying-pasting?06:58
mpqctrl+v doesn't work06:59
redrum_Ctrl+Shift+C06:59
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mpqok06:59
Menaherannmy laptop has warty on it... it promts me to the usernae/password nicely... it look good and everithing but then after theat it hangs....06:59
jcoxon77mpq, i've got to go but i'm sure someone else will continue to help you06:59
Menaherannno matter which mode i log on07:00
bborkkI'd like to install python-matplotlib, which I know works with Python 2.3.  I've upgraded to Python 2.4, but still have Python 2.3 installed.07:00
bborkkapt-get says "python-matplotlib: Depends: python (< 2.4) but 2.4-0ubuntu4 is to be installed"07:00
bborkkIs it kosher to force installation by "apt-get install python-matplotlib+"?07:00
apokryphosSound system configuration.... anyone? Any help?07:01
bborkkapokryphos: What's up?07:01
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apokryphosbborkk: Ubuntu doesn't seem to want to play surround sound. Not sure what I should do. Plays only through two speakers, and doesn't seem to detect the sub.07:01
dejavucan ANYONE help me with this RootPassword  issue !??07:01
apokryphosdejavu: what's the issue?07:02
dejavui dont know whats my root paswd !07:02
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dejavuit never asked me one07:02
apokryphosUbuntu doesn't set one automatically07:02
apokryphosit uses the sudo command07:02
hawkmanCan anyone here tell me how I can get firefox to recognize Mouse button 4 as back and 5 as forward ?  currently it just want to autoscroll on MB407:02
HaloGraydejavu you use the sudo command07:02
bborkkapokryphos: Don't you normally have to go through a receiver to get surround sound?07:02
HaloGrayand the password is the same one for your user account07:02
dejavuwhat is the sudo command ..07:02
bborkkdejavu: man sudo07:03
dejavuim completely new to ubunto and pretyy much to linux07:03
floaterhmm I tried to install flash plug-in but I get "couldn't find package flashplayer-mozilla07:03
HaloGraytype sudo base-config in the terminal to use base-config07:03
apokryphosbborkk: I don't know, I never have, I don't think; Mandrake and Fedora detected it automatically, as I recall.07:03
floaterit read package list and dependancy tree07:03
HaloGrayit will prompt for a pass07:03
LinuxJonesdejavu, it's like su only better07:03
HaloGrayand you give it the user07:03
AcidMaXdejavu, sudo allows you to access root from your own username07:03
bborkkdejavu: You can find out more about sudo by typing "man sudo" in a terminal window and then pressing enter.07:03
AcidMaXif you type "sudo su" then enter your password for your username you will be root.07:03
dejavusounds goot ..07:04
HaloGrayfloater: your mozilla-firefox folder should be .mozilla in your user's folder07:04
dejavulemme give it a try !07:04
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bborkkapokryphos: Hm.  I really don't know.  Sorry.07:04
floaterin x-windows you can just open a "root terminal" aswell under applications-system tools07:04
apokryphosbborkk: Ok, no worries.07:04
bborkkAnyone know how to force installation of a package?07:04
HaloGrayif you can't get the installer to work, just copy the flashplayer.xpt into the plugins folder inside /home/user/.mozilla/07:04
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lilohmmm07:04
lilo#ubuntu should have join throttling07:05
liloit'd help in these situations07:05
floaterHaloGray: alrightz, what command shall I use to download that xpt file?07:05
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lilolike, pretty much eliminate the clonebot attack07:05
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HaloGrayyou can download the flashplayer file at www.macromedia.com07:05
apokryphosbborkk: in apt? Have you checked the man file..? I think you can do an "ignore missing"07:05
HaloGrayit should auto-detect you're running linux07:05
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floateroki07:06
HaloGrayit will download in a bz file I think, which is the same as a windows zip file07:06
floateryeuh, then I just unzip it with x-windows or in console07:06
HaloGrayyou can just use the xwindows unziper07:06
HaloGrayright07:06
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redrum_apokryphos: I can't find within the link you sent me a solution to my problem07:06
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bborkkapokryphos: I'm reading it now.  I don't think --ignore-missing will do it.07:07
mpqI have a problem07:08
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apokryphosredrum_: It really is.07:08
mpqI'm trying to import my music07:08
HaloGrayfrom what?07:08
mpqbut sound juicer is using the wrong cddb information07:08
apokryphosredrum_: Have you added those repositories?07:08
FirstiIs there some way to check uptime in console?07:08
mpqI want it to use a different CDDB entry07:08
LinuxJonesFirsti, uptime :D07:09
neighborleeanyone know why some things installled ( using synatpic) dont show up on  'menu' afterward ???07:09
FirstiJust Uptime?07:09
LinuxJonesFirsti, yeah07:09
Firstiok07:09
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normanhmmh07:09
normandoes anyone know how to burn an iso as a cd, not just file?07:09
FirstiDATA?07:09
redrum_what is the irc command to send a message just to one individual, without opening a new 'chat window'?07:10
mpqI'm not sure how to do that in linux07:10
Firsti/msg person msg07:10
Firstiredrum_07:10
Firstiredrum_:  /msg person msg07:10
LinuxJonesnorman, in Ubuntu ?07:10
normanye07:10
Xappeor /query07:10
redrum_oh07:10
LinuxJonesnorman, open the file manager Nautilus and right click the .iso file07:10
redrum_what IS nautilus?07:11
LinuxJonesnorman, then write to disk07:11
HaloGrayit's like explorer07:11
apokryphosredrum_: The Gnome file manager07:11
mpqsound juicer is using the wrong CCDB data, how do I get it to use a different one?07:11
LinuxJonesredrum_, it's the Gnome file manager07:11
mpq*CDDB07:11
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normanthen it burns it as a bootable cd?07:12
LinuxJonesnorman, yep07:12
bborkkapokryphos: I don't see anything in the man page, but I might be missing something.07:12
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apokryphosbborkk: There might not be one then; lemme take a quick look.07:12
SchaapIm gonna use hex colors to name my pc's07:13
SchaapUbuntu is white07:13
SchaapXp is black :D07:13
surrounderSchaap: beeeeeeeeeeh07:13
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surrounderlol07:14
mpqgreat, now I need to re-enter all the artist names07:14
apokryphosbborkk: Hmm, can't see it. Can't really be of much help; might have more luck asking in #debian07:14
Schaapbitch :/07:14
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Schaapmy ear my ear!07:14
mpqhow do I type stuff in other languages in ubuntu?07:14
LinuxJonesmpq, you can select different languages from the GDM login screen07:15
mpqthe what?07:15
maximausLinuxJones: but you have to add them first right. ;)07:15
LinuxJonesmpq, the graphical login screen where you enter your username & password07:15
LinuxJonesmaximaus, yeah07:15
mpqdoes that mean I have to log out to do it?07:15
maximausmpq: I either login in Swedish or English and have a keyboard switch applet on the panel so I can type me umlauts. LOL07:16
floaterhm HaloGray , there is probably something wrong with my repositories, I can't apt-get the acrobat reader either07:16
mpqI don't have another keyboard07:16
mpqin windows I had it set up that I could type in japanese without a japanese keyboard07:16
mpqI want to do something like that07:17
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apokryphosmpq: You can definitely do it on Linux; I set it up on Fedora; not sure about Ubuntu though.07:17
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Pointwoodwhere do I find a mp3 plugin for rhythmbox?07:27
SchaapWhere do i change that root@ubuntu:~ # ?07:27
Schaapubuntu part07:27
bluefoxicyPointwood: apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad07:28
gustav_apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad07:28
lucienPointwood: Gstreamer0.8-mad.07:28
Pointwoodthx07:28
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[PoVal] Dutchywhere do i get divx and other video codecs07:30
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floateranyone know why my apt-get doesn't find any packages ?07:31
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floatermaybe I should check that /var/log/messages ?07:31
apokryphosfloater: Have you done an apt-get update?07:31
apokryphosfloater: and is your /etc/apt/sources.list file intact?07:32
floatercertainly haven't... just going step by step on that ubuntuguide website07:32
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Pointwoodbluefoxicy / lucien: you know if there's an APE plugin too? I looked but couldn't seem to find any07:32
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lucien[PoVal] Dutchy, There are some guides available on the websites, they address to restricted formats like Divx.07:32
floateror if apt-get update means updating repositories07:32
apokryphosfloater: You probably need to do an apt-get update first, for it to populate the sources.07:32
lucienHmm pointwood, I have no idea.07:32
apokryphosfloater: it does07:32
Suvrocams, i have a question07:33
floaterwell I did that, I have a # before every DEB and there weren't #'s before those debs on the guide website07:33
floaterhowever the guide website was for warty07:33
maximausfloater, what apokryphos said and do try Xpdf for pdfs, it's really lightweight and renders *most* of them perfectly.07:33
Suvroci have an usb joypad and usbhid and joydev modules loaded07:33
Suvrocthe joypad is recognized as /dev/input/js007:33
bluefoxicymonkey's audio :D07:33
floaterok, I would like to try an alternative pdf-viewer07:33
bluefoxicyPointwood:  where the heck did you get monkey's audio files07:34
Suvrocbut when i do cat /dev/input/js0 and push the buttons on the joypad nothing happens07:34
Suvrocany idea ?07:34
apokryphosfloater: Are you using hoary?07:34
floateryea07:34
bluefoxicyflac >> ape (I get 50-60% on FLAC, 75-90% on MA)07:34
apokryphosfloater: and have you changed your apt repositories?07:34
floateryea I changed them07:34
floateror I simply added few lines07:34
Pointwoodbluefoxicy: by creating them ;)07:34
jintxoSuvroc, have you tried running jscal or jstest? I have a USB joypad and I have to load the "analog" module for it to work...07:35
apokryphosfloater: One sec; I'll give you my sources.list.07:35
Suvrocnoppe, i haven't07:35
bluefoxicyPointwood: instead of flac?07:35
floaterok! thanks!07:35
Pointwoodbluefoxicy: yes, before I learned about FLAC07:35
floaterI am on screen, dcc won't work though07:35
bluefoxicyPointwood:  ahh07:35
jintxoSuvroc, is it an analog joypad? maybe the analog module is not for you... try modprobing it and running jscal, for example07:35
Pointwoodanyway, not that important07:35
floaterdo you want a website where to upload it ? hold on07:36
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apokryphosfloater: http://pastebin.com/23973007:36
bluefoxicyPointwood:  I haven't seen ape stuff07:36
floateroohh oki07:36
Suvroci don't know, it has an analog / digital switch thought07:36
apokryphosremove the php waffle, naturally07:36
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Pointwoodthough APE is pretty much as free and open source as FLAC IIRC07:36
apokryphosfloater: Once that's done, make sure your synaptic is closed, and do "apt-get update"07:36
jintxomine does to (for selecting the little joystick or the pad) it's a logitech wingman rumblepad somethng something07:37
jintxoSuvroc, ^07:37
apokryphosmight take some time; your sources should be populated after that.07:37
sig_ubuntuanyone know of a real good gui/code webpage editor for linux?07:37
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Pointwoodit would be nice though since Rhythmbox don't like files it don't know - it starts taking up 100% CPU time :(07:37
apokryphossig_ubuntu: Quanta is pretty good.07:38
apokryphosothers like Mozilla Composer07:38
sig_ubuntuapokryphos: ok I'll check it out thanks07:38
sig_ubuntuis quanta a kde package?07:38
apokryphossig_ubuntu: Yes.07:38
apokryphosI use KDE for everything other than washing my dishes ;)07:39
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sig_ubuntuI don't use kde07:39
LinuxJonessig_ubuntu, have you tried bluefish ?07:39
sig_ubuntubluefish sucks imo07:39
[PoVal] Dutchyoh that explains >.< divx and stuff is patented07:39
LinuxJonesheh07:39
apokryphosconvert to KDE ;)07:39
sig_ubuntubbiab07:39
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Xappesig_ubuntu, have u tried NVU?07:39
sig_ubuntuNVU ?07:40
regeyaNVU is evil.07:40
Xappemkay07:40
sig_ubuntuXappe: you have a link?07:40
regeyaat the very least run any NVU output through tidy.07:40
Suvrocjintxo , i'm installing joystick package, it asked me about creating some nodes on /dev for the joypad ? is  that necesary? i mean, now there is a node for it ( /dev/input/js0 907:40
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regeyaI ended up doing as much manual labor as real work in NVU, when I eval'ed it07:41
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Xappesig_ubuntu, http://www.nvu.com/07:41
sig_ubuntuis it in apt repositories?07:41
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jintxoSuvroc, well crap, I'm not sure. I don't hink it would do any harm anyways.07:42
floaterapokryphos: I tried your updated source.list  .."couldn't stat source package list......" then it recommended to run "apt-get update" which I did, and then after succesful fetching it says"GPG error: http://apt.cerkinfo.be unstable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available:"07:42
|QuaD-sig_ubuntu: not in apt repos07:42
sig_ubuntuI see that07:42
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Xappesig_ubuntu, there is a guide for installation on the forum somewhere07:42
|QuaD-sig_ubuntu: its simple to install tho07:43
|QuaD-www.ubuntuguide.com has a tutorial07:43
floatergbg error 3 times apokryphos  .. on testing ,unstable and unstable lines07:43
apokryphosfloater: Don't worry about that07:43
sig_ubuntuI don't think I'll try that07:43
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|QuaD-sig_ubuntu: wwhy not?07:43
|QuaD-sig_ubuntu: did you read it, its INCREDIBLY easy07:44
floaterI try download now some file with it and let's see07:44
sig_ubuntuhave to leave for work later07:44
apokryphosfloater: Just hasn't got the signatures for some of the repos, because of codecs divx mplayer etc.. stuff available from there07:44
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|QuaD-sig_ubuntu: takes 4 minutes07:44
|QuaD-i am serious07:44
sig_ubuntu|QuaD-: it's not that I couldn't install it I just will stick with vim for php stuff07:44
apokryphosfloater: yup, go for it07:44
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xiximkopphello. anybody knows how to setup the softvol plugin in alsa-1.0.8?07:44
apokryphosas long as the apt command has finished07:44
|QuaD-sig_ubuntu: haha... that works too07:44
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apokryphosfloater: make sure you tell it to "continue anyway", despite the signature issue07:44
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sig_ubuntuXappe: you said you use mozilla composer?07:45
floaterIt worked , great, just a bit careful with all this :P extra-noob-carefulness :)07:45
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hawkmanhow does that spam bot get access to all those ip's...07:46
LinuxJonesfreenode can ban him07:46
apokryphosARGH07:46
apokryphostwat07:46
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apokryphosmissed what you said floater, sorry07:46
Hegge`proxys07:46
xiximkoppanybody knows how to setup the softvol plugin in alsa-1.0.8?07:46
sig_ubuntuapokryphos: whats the command for mozilla composer07:46
Hegge`:P07:46
zeedohawkman: they use a variety of methods, usually the same way viruses get them07:46
apokryphossig_ubuntu: I don't think you can get it from apt; can get it from mozilla.org though07:47
apokryphosI don't think you'll like it, but have a go ;)07:47
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Geertcrap07:48
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john__hello07:51
john__is this the place to ask for ubuntu help?07:51
apokryphosright here07:51
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john__hi apokryphos... I can't figure out to get to my windows partition from here07:51
john__nothing is listed in /mnt07:52
apokryphosjohn__: see: http://ubuntuguide.org/07:52
floateryou mounted it and all ?07:52
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floaterI have to make a permanent mount aswell ..soon :)07:53
john__not sure, floater07:53
john__looking for a way to get on my root account07:53
floaterfor a quick mounting is just that mount -t ntfs /dev/hd(number) /mnt/ntfs or /mnt/windows... the dir you created for it07:53
floaterroot is secured... you can open a root terminal or do that "sudo" thing07:54
raphaHi all!07:54
apokryphosjohn__: There is no GUI on Ubuntu for Root, though you can set one up. No real need for it.07:54
john__oh07:54
Hegge`sudo root passwd07:54
BiteMeBilljohn_: here is good information on mounting it.  http://ubuntuguide.org/#windows07:54
Hegge`su - root07:54
Hegge`donte...07:54
Hegge`done***....07:55
john__so i just open a terminal, mount the drive, then its accessable in my gui?07:55
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john__thanks bitemebill07:55
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_4strO|Ult1m4t3++ all07:55
BiteMeBilljohn_: your welcome.07:56
floaterheyy can I get that xpdf with apt-get aswell ?07:57
BiteMeBillfloater: it's not installed by default?07:57
apokryphosYou can, yes.07:57
floaterhumm.. oh, probably it is, I haven't tried to open any pdf file07:57
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floaterwell, how about firefox pdf-support, there's a guide for acrobat plug for ff07:58
BiteMeBillI installed acrobat reader and then seen that I had two so I figured xpdf was installed by default.07:58
floaterbut does that xpdf support it aswell07:58
floateror is xpdf integrated into ff by default07:58
zOap_winhey, Can i download the ubuntu apt-get sources and burn on a cd rom? I have no net connection on the pc with ubuntu and need to update som apts before it works with wireless.. also, does ubuntu include ndiswrapper either in apt-get our install cdrom? I'm using wharty 4.1007:58
floaterI'll try search some website with pdf...so I see07:59
BiteMeBillhttp://ubuntuguide.org/#acroread-mozilla07:59
BiteMeBillfloater: would you like a humorous pdf to test with?07:59
floaterhehe07:59
xiximkoppanybody tried the new softvol plugin in alsa?08:00
floaterwell I already did a google, but if you have a url, I'll check that instead :)08:00
unpersonfloater: In the default setup, xpdf opens as a seperate handler in ff, not as a plugin.08:00
BiteMeBillfloater: it a story that someone posted in a forum that I found hallarious..  I made a pdf out of it to save.08:00
floateralright, that'll be fine for me08:00
zOap_winanyone knows? apt-get on cdrom?08:01
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floaterohh.. BiteMeBill I can't receive dcc's08:02
sig_ubuntuhow do I delete something via apt?08:02
BiteMeBillok...  Give me a sec then.08:02
|QuaD-sig_ubuntu: apt-get remove08:02
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unpersonzOap_win: Hmmm...not sure exactly, but I know this can be done.08:03
BiteMeBillfloater: http://vk0.dk/vkprivupload/revnehuw/warning.pdf08:04
unpersonzOap_win: If it's just a few packages, you could just download the specific package files and save them.  Then you could install them individually with dpkg -i.08:04
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zOap_winunperson, dpkg -i ? ok, i'll try that. thnx08:04
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unpersonzOap_win: That works with individual files.08:05
Coilyhow do i give a user root priveleges?08:05
AcidMaXthey use sudo08:05
unpersonzOap_win: So you do like dpkg -i somepackage.deb.08:05
Coilyw/o using sudo08:05
AcidMaXi think its /etc/sudoers08:05
BiteMeBillAcidMaX: Don't they still need either root or admin privilages?08:06
Coilyi dont believe so08:06
echyloI have problem, It has been a while since I booted Ubuntu, so I updated it, but when I rebooted it had overwrited my grub, now I don't remember how I configged it to boot XP, it's on /dev/hda3 someone can give me link?08:06
Coilythough my question hasnt been answered yet08:06
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Coilyechylo isnt xp autodetected?08:07
echyloyes08:07
johanncan anyone tell me how I apply a new kernel patch08:07
echylobut if you read my question :p08:08
echyloyou see it overwrited my grub08:08
echyloand it didn't detect XP08:08
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echyloand I just need the title, root etc for booting XP08:09
AcidMaXCoily, In most unix platforms (not sure about ubuntu) but you can add the user to the root group in /etc/groups08:09
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Coilyill try08:09
shockhi all08:09
Coilyechylo try asking in forums or mailing list08:10
echylowhy you think I'm here08:10
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AcidMaXechylo, just hang around and ask again in a bit. I  am sure someone will come along that can answer.08:10
Coily/j #ubuntu?08:10
echylohmm08:10
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floaterBiteMeBill heheh, gotta stay far from that thing :)08:12
BiteMeBillfloater: You read it that fast?  Took me over an hour I was laughing so hard.08:13
Coilyshould group read "root:x:0:USERNAME"?08:13
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AcidMaXCoily, yes I believe so, each username would be seperated by commas just like any other group.08:13
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floater3 pages , wasn't so long08:14
AcidMaXi dont understand why you are doing it though.08:14
Coilygotcha08:14
AcidMaXsudo does essentially the same thing.08:14
floateryeauuuu, hmm now back to installing things08:14
Coilywouldnt i have to use sudo though?08:14
BiteMeBillfloater: Yea but can't see when laughing so hard that your crying.08:14
AcidMaXyes but that is quite simple.08:14
AcidMaX"sudo su"08:14
AcidMaXenter your pass and you are root.08:14
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BiteMeBillfloater: Maybe it just sounds too familiar to me.  LOL08:15
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Suvrocback08:15
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dbt`veritasI'm trying to install the nvidia drivers. I changed the x86free-4 config file. I go reboot(of course x doesn't work b/c the cfg is changed and i need to install the nvida drivers) but now I can't login to root. My root password doesn't seem to work and I can't change hte files back b/c  Ican't login to root. Any suggestions?08:15
Suvrocems.. i still can't get my joypad to work08:15
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AcidMaXdbt`veritas, did you try booting into single user mode?08:16
dbt`veritasi changed my inittab to runlevel 108:17
dbt`veritasno i didn't08:17
dbt`veritashow do i do that?08:17
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dbt`veritasthe emergency boot from grub?08:18
AcidMaXdbt`veritas, here is something that might help08:18
AcidMaXhttp://ubuntuguide.org/#rescuemode08:18
dbt`veritasawesome, thanks08:18
Pointwoodso, what would you guys recommend instead of rhythmbox?08:19
lucienBeep !08:19
floaterheyy do I open gnome back from the console with command "gnome" ?08:20
lucienBeep-media-player, definately ! @ Pointwood .08:20
floaterif I type ctrl-alt-backspace I am in full-console mode08:20
luciendefinitely*08:20
randabisbeep or xmms08:20
BiteMeBillfloater: isn't it startx?08:20
randabisamarok is decent too08:20
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floaterohh, thanks :P08:21
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BiteMeBillfloater: I'm just guessing.08:21
Pointwoodthx08:21
lucienThat was hilarious.08:21
lucienI actually pressed ctrl-alt-backspace. Why did I do that ?08:21
Coilyapparantly being root still doesnt allow for the creation of files/folders in nautilus08:21
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lucienYes, it does.08:22
floaterlucien, so how did you come back? :D08:22
floaterstartx ?08:22
Coilythen ive done something wrong08:22
lucienNo, it restarted gnome.08:22
randabisfloater, if gdm is running, then it will start back up08:22
PointwoodI tried Juk, but got no sound from that08:22
lucienJust logged in.08:22
randabisit restarted gdm, not gnome08:22
floatergdm hmm08:22
lucienCoily: sudo nautilus ?08:22
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floaterwhat's gdm and how can I run it08:22
Coilywhaddya know08:23
randabisgdm is gnome's display manager. It provides you with a graphical login screen08:23
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floaterok08:23
randabisif you're using ubuntu you should already haave it running08:23
Coilyis there anyway to not have to use sudo for nautilus?08:23
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floaterwell I tried ctrl+alt+backspace but it didn't boot back to login screen, I just had the console login08:23
PPC_Guyhello all. is there a specific channel for the ppc port? Or is this the right one?08:24
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randabisfloater, are you running warty or hoary?08:24
floaterho ary08:24
randabisthat's why08:24
floateralrighty08:24
randabisfor some reason gdm doesn't start back up in hoary08:24
raphaHey, how am I supposed to add/remove network interfaces in the latest Hoary? Where's the button gone?08:24
randabisyou can start it back up manually though08:24
floaterhow to run gdm from console08:24
randabissudo gdm08:25
floateri'll try.. brb08:25
BiteMeBillEverytime I ctrl+Alt+backspace it just reboots gnome to the splash screen.  How did he get it to boot him into just terminal?08:26
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randabisBiteMeBill, it's like that in hoary08:27
BiteMeBillrandabis: Oh ok.08:27
BiteMeBillThanks08:27
randabiswarty just restarts gdm08:27
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floateralright... it said gdm already running!08:27
zulBiteMeBill, alt-fn08:27
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randabiswell you could sudo killall gdm08:27
floaterthen I typed startx and it booted back to this gnome or windowed or x-windows mode08:27
floaterwithout going to login screen08:28
floaterI had to login in console first though08:28
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floaterwell at least works that way... good to know things08:28
Menaherannhey gys... my laptop doesn't move from the login screen after i input, caN ANYONE HELP WITH THAT ONe?08:28
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randabisCTRL ALT F1-F6 will give you a console also without killing your x session08:28
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BiteMeBillDid lucien try it again?08:29
floateryeauh.... just needed that "rebooting of gnome" to update some installations so I was curiouz08:29
randabisdunno08:29
floaterhehe08:29
LechI got problem during installation. Instalator does not find my CDROM drivers, I got DVD/CDR combo...08:29
BiteMeBillLOL08:29
Lechand i have no drivers for that08:30
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Menaherannno clue here08:30
surrounderuugmmm08:30
surrounderwhere did the xorg.conf go in hoary ? :-/08:30
BiteMeBillclueless here too08:30
randabisdunno, you could maybe try using the Array 4 CD instead of the Warty cd08:30
surrounderor XF86Confi....08:31
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randabisit should be /etc/X11/xorg.conf08:31
surrounderhmm it isn't...08:31
john__i have a java prog i want to install... do i just do "java -jar program.jar" ??08:31
randabisthen you might still be running xfree08:31
john__this is a fresh ubuntu install08:31
shockman i love ubuntu!08:32
surrounderrandabis: well...can't find /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 either...08:32
surrounderbut I _am_ in X08:32
randabisyou'll need the java runtime environment08:32
shocki just earned 50 easy euro by installing ubuntu for someone :D08:32
randabisthat is very strange08:32
Menaherannok.... does anybody have any clue of what going on inside this laptoop?08:32
shock:happymode:08:32
surrounderlol @ shock08:32
randabisMenaherann, no :/08:32
surroundershock: lucky dude ;)08:32
raphashock: I'm still doing it for free here :)08:32
BiteMeBillshock: you should feel guilty.08:32
Lechrapha, could you help me?08:33
shockme too - I do it for friends free of charge08:33
shockbut companies trying to save money by hiring student for this....08:33
john__thanks08:33
Menaherannhmm, did you read my problem, though?08:33
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shockI would have done it for free.... deleting windows is such a pleasure08:33
randabisyes08:33
randabisyour laptop freezes after trying to logon08:33
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shock<Menaherann> <-- try logging in in console?08:34
Menaherannwell the cursor moves vry well it just on top of a blck screen08:34
Menaherannhow????????????????08:34
Coilywell i added myself to root in group, but i still have to sudo su/type my user password to open programs08:34
Xappeanyone here that uses cvscedega?08:34
BiteMeBillMenaherann: hold on let me find an artical that was posted to day someone said something about that.08:34
raphaLech: Maybe; what is your problem?08:34
shockjust do alt+ctrl+f2 when the login screen is there08:34
Menaherannthank you biteme bill (funny name)08:34
shockthen login08:34
shockshutdown gdm08:35
Menaheranntype then shutdown gdm?08:35
shockjo08:35
shockno08:35
shocknonono08:35
LechRapha: at installation Unbuntu does not find my cdrom drive (i got combo DVD/CDR on IDE) i mean it boot CD, but later it writes me that it have no drivers for that08:35
shocksudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop08:35
randabisyou might be having a problem with ACPI08:35
Menaherannlett's try that shock08:35
raphaHmm08:36
mpqwhat's a good music player for linux?08:36
Coilyis there a way to avoid having to sudo su/typing user password to use certain apps?08:36
BiteMeBillMenaherann: scroll down to the tweaking sections and see if this is the same as you.  http://osnews.com/story.php?news_id=965008:36
Shark24can anybody help me to mout windowsxp partition? i can't reach it . /mnt folder is emty  :(08:36
randabisthat was for Menaherann...in which case you would need to tell grub not to use acpi08:36
Lechinstaller asks me for drivers on floppy or to choose manually08:36
raphaLech: Sorry, haven't ever had that before. Try speaking to one of the developers directly, or try #debian.08:36
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Lechok, thanks anyway08:36
randabisCoily technially yes, but I'm not divulging that information for ethical reasons08:36
Coilymplayer is one of the best08:36
XappeShark24, have you created the mountpoints then?08:37
bert_howdy08:37
BiteMeBillShark24: http://ubuntuguide.org/#windows  The steps are right there.08:37
bert_anyone else having problems installing bluefish (hoary)?08:37
Shark24yes08:37
Menaherannis prompting me with password08:37
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Lechme Bert08:37
shockright mena08:37
shocktype your password08:37
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albi1shark24, try at console sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt -o umask=000008:37
EinzelgangerWhat is the correct place (on Ubuntu or Debian) to install dll's, different packages do it in different places: /usr/share/dotnet/mono/package or /usr/lib/mono/package or /usr/lib/package ?08:37
randabisuh08:37
Menaherannok...08:38
randabisyou might wanna make it a folder in mnt such as /mnt/winxp08:38
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Coilywill someone tell me08:38
Menaherannnow is asking me to login again?08:38
randabisI make a folder in my home directory and set it as a mount point08:38
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randabisEinzelganger, typically /usr/lib/package08:39
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dbt`veritasAcidMax, thanks for the help...I08:40
dbt`veritas*Im back in linux08:40
dbt`veritasThough I don't have the drivers installed...08:41
dbt`veritasI got class in a few, I'll work on this later....cya all08:41
Menaherannok shock what exactly was this?08:42
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CyberSnooPDoes anyone have a pointer to a "how to make qt beautiful" doc ?08:43
rubenvCyberSnooP: face it, QT is but-ugly ;)08:43
rubenv*ducks*08:43
CarlKwhats the scoop on playing flash files?08:43
CyberSnooPyep faced that :)08:43
CyberSnooPbut now I would like to see the good side of QT, or a skype / esvn / k3b implementation in gtk :)08:44
shock<Menaherann> -- the gdm shutdown?08:44
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shockor what?08:44
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AcidMaXdbt`veritas, your welcome.08:45
Menaherannthat and the fact that i have to log in agian mnext?08:45
mestaphelesanyone know if hoary's kernel deep sleeps ibooks G4 wit ati radeon 9200 yet?08:46
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mpqI don't know how to compile08:48
CyberSnooPapt-get install build-essential  and follow the INSTALL document for whatever you wish to compile08:49
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sriso, I'm still having some issues with hoary and the x cursor08:54
sriwhen I do a drag or something I get a box with black and transparent lines08:54
Coilyis myplayer-586 still available for install?08:55
sriI had to put a jimac cursor in order to get it show arrows anyways08:55
srihow do I get X to just use the built in defaults and not use any x cursors?08:55
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tolstoyGuys: when you delete your xorg.conf or XFree86-4 config file, how do you get X to regenerate it based on your dpkg-reconfigure settings?09:00
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sriinteresting..x11 got updated09:01
sriperhaps that will fix my problems09:01
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bert_Hi, does anyone know how i can clear my MUINE 'album library' ???09:02
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LinuxJonestolstoy, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (Warty) or xserver-xorg (Hoary)09:03
bert_oh i've got it already. it was in the faq. sorry for bothering!09:03
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ren0Hello I am having problems with usb sticks09:05
ren0They are no longer being automagically detected09:06
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tatterdemalionprhmmm anyone familiar with audacity09:07
albi1ren0, can you please plug in your memory stick and afterwords open a terminal type dmesg and report the last few lines?09:07
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tatterdemalionprevery time i run it it'll give me > error init the audio layer09:08
tatterdemalionprthe audio i/o layer, my mistake09:09
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ren0albi1, sda: assuming drive cache: write through09:10
ren0 /dev/scsi/host1/bus0/target0/lun0: p109:10
ren0Attached scsi removable disk sda at scsi1, channel 0, id 0, lun 009:10
ren0USB Mass Storage device found at 309:10
ren0Hope that wasn't a flood...09:11
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ren0lsusb Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0ea0:6828 Ours Technology, Inc. OTI-6828 Flash Disk09:12
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tatterdemalionprit all worked before, but then i played with the leveles in the mixer09:13
tatterdemalionpri think i broke something =o)09:14
Shamblerdoes ne1 know why the preview of video files in nautilus isn't working any longer? (newest hoary)09:14
floaterhey, I installed the windows codecs and dvd-capability and now I can open my simpsons dvd from my dvd-drive, but it is lagging quite much and I didn't have anything in subtitles menu... with that totem player.... Should I maybe install that xine-ui or xmms to get it working better.. or fix some of my settings to make totem play it better?09:14
albi1reno, stay at the terminal ;-) try: sudo mount /dev/sda /mnt/09:14
albi1ren0, if you look  with nautilus, do you find your files in /mnt ?09:16
albi1floater, i recommend xine, i use it myself...09:17
dbt`veritasapt-get intall flashplayer-mozilla doesn't work. it says: E: Couldn't find package flashplayer-mozilla09:17
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dbt`veritasNET SPLIT09:17
dbt`veritasapt-get intall flashplayer-mozilla doesn't work. it says: E: Couldn't find package flashplayer-mozilla09:18
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ren0albi1, No not there09:18
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iapx8088dbt`veritas, I'm surpried it doesn't say intall unknown action09:18
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floaterdbt`veritas: your source.list isn't up to date or wronly updated09:19
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albi1ren0, next try ;-) sudo umount /mnt - is there a error message?09:19
floaterprobably09:19
floaterdbt`veritas: do you use hoary or warty ?09:20
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PalleSomeone have connected via cable a nokia communicator with multisync ?!?09:22
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ren0umount: /mnt: not mounted09:23
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albi1ren0, it is a little bit of guessing, i know, but we should figure out where the error could be...so let's try another one:09:25
albi1sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt09:25
albi1...and please report any output if there is one!09:25
albi1;)09:26
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moZerwhen's the next release due?09:27
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ren0mount: you must specify the filesystem type...fat32 i think09:28
ren0sudo mount fat32 /dev/sda1 /mnt???09:29
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tatterdemalionprhello yall09:30
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floaterhi yaa09:31
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terracesHello. I've just upgraded to hoary and my gnome's top/bottom menubars have disappeared. How can I re-add them ?09:31
floaterhey how can I "not-group" similar tabs in the taskbar ?09:31
albi1ren0, we are getting closer :) sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt09:31
tatterdemalionprhow might i go about finding what particular deb package contains libmp3lame.so?09:31
tatterdemalionprassuming there is one09:32
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Bandithello boys and girls09:32
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[m0rph] hi09:33
moZertatterdemalionpr:  apt-cache search libmp3lame.so09:33
ren0sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt ...That worked09:33
moZerbut i'd guess it's in "lame" :-)09:33
umarmungterraces, you have no panels at all?09:33
ren0How do I make that automagic again?09:33
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Xapperen0, edit your fstab09:34
tatterdemalionprthanks brother09:34
albi1ren0, Great! You said, they where automagically recognised, but now, not anymore...did you do something special (upgrade, new hardware....)??09:34
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ren0Just usual apt-get update followed by apt-get upgrade09:35
tatterdemalionprand if i get no reply?09:35
terracesumarmung, no, not at all.09:35
ren0Its the hal thing that does this automagic?09:35
albi1ren0, the magic lies in the so called hotplug-system, which manages "hotplugable" devices as sticks, mice...09:35
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moZertatterdemalionpr:  try apt-cache search lame09:36
albi1ren0, do you have an usb-mouse?09:36
moZeryou might need to add some sort of non-free apt source09:36
moZercan't help you anymore, don't even run ubuntu09:36
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ren0I just put a second stick in it worked fine!?09:37
umarmungterraces, is gnome-panel still running?09:37
FASTis it possible to import thunderbird's email from windows to linux?09:37
CyberSnooPFAST, yep, you can even share the mailboxes between windows and linux09:37
tatterdemalionprok some stuff came up09:37
tatterdemalionprbut how do i find out which of them packages contains the correct library09:38
michelehi, just installed unbuntu on a Thinkpad 600E. Runs ok, but still a few problems. At boot the system tries to mount nfs partitions before starting the network. At least this is my impression. Can anybody confirm?09:38
FASTdo you just copy the  /documents and settings/name/application data/thunderbird folder into linux directory?09:38
albi1ren0, hmmm strange...09:38
floaterhey, I can't edit my mozpluggerrc in hoary now because ubuntuguide.org's help for warty differs09:38
floaterhow should I do it?09:38
tatterdemalionpreither libmp3lame.so.0.0.0 or libmp3lame.so09:38
CyberSnooPWell, just create a new profile, copy the old prefs.js and the mailbox directories and search and replace in your prefs.js09:38
albi1ren0, the second stick was detect automatically?09:38
terracesumarmung, humm no. got 'command not found', and 'broken package' on install. Is that the package that create menubars ?09:38
umarmungterraces, yes09:38
terracesok. thanx I'll try to install it in a few days09:39
ren0yes as sdb09:40
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albi1ren0, because if yes it could be that a module was missing, and because of mounting by had it was loaded...09:40
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albi1...but had my own strange adventures with hotplug already :-|09:40
Coilywhat does a woody version mean?09:41
ren0tried to drag and drop into it. "Error while copying into "/media/sdb". The destination disk is read-only."09:41
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albi1ren0, has the stick a hardware-lock (a small switch on the side) to write-protect it?09:42
Coilyanyone know anything about "woody" versions?09:42
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albi1coily, woody is the codename for the now stable version of woody, which will be replaced by "sarge" soon, hoipefully09:43
albi1..of debian of course, sorry09:43
albi1woody=stable version of debian09:43
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ren0doesn't appear to. I'll have to umount and check both.09:44
Coilygotcha09:44
Coilywhy would synaptic ask me to update to a woody version?09:44
johns_exit09:44
Coilyof a pkg09:45
johns_damn wrong window09:45
Coilyim on ubuntu...09:45
albi1coily, did you install some other packages not in universe or multiverse or so...?09:46
orion_114hey guys where can I get Ubuntu source code ?09:46
terracesThe -f option on apt-get install doensn't seem to force package install when unmet dependencies. Is there another option to do this ?09:46
Coilyhm ya i guess i should pin my installs?09:47
albi1apt-get --help |more09:47
ren0albi1, sdb is automagically being detected. No hardware lock visible.09:47
albi1coily, maybe ;-) normally, when dpkg requests something it is right, even if one doesn't want it to... ;-)09:48
bubbangaquestion when using xmms how do you get it to be stereo instead of mono, i know my soundcard is stereo but it wants to playeveryting in mono :(09:48
ren0mount: block device /dev/sda1 is write-protected, mounting read-only09:48
albi1ren0, could it be possible that there is something wrong with the sticks...?09:49
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ren0I am checking in my other laptop..09:50
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Coilyill hope for the best :x09:50
ren0Plus they work in windows09:50
albi1ren0, hmmmm....09:50
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albi1*scratching*09:51
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albi1ren0, let's go back to square one: let's umount all sticks: closing all nautilus windows and tkae the terminal09:52
ren0Just plugged a usb mouse in. works great.09:52
tatterdemalionprdoes locate need to like re cache ever09:53
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tatterdemalionpror is it doing a new search every time?09:54
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tatterdemalionprdoes it have a list file any where that needs to be refreashed09:54
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tatterdemalionprdoes anyone even know what im talking about09:55
kenthas any one noticed that some updates in Hoary keeps stop the network? I upgraded just recently and I could not get it to work without a restart :(  Im not sure which package is messing it up though :(09:55
ren0In both computers i get the message mount: block device /dev/sda1 is write-protected, mounting read-onl09:56
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tatterdemalionprman computers are stupid!09:57
dsis the warty live CD supposed to bring up eth0?09:57
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apokryphosargh09:57
Coilyis there a linux plugin for embedded media player?09:58
Banditthat was a nasty split09:58
shockhrhr09:58
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=== shock likes nasty
Banditi am running hoary when it reboots now it doesnt not start x by itself anyone know how to set x to start auto10:00
ren0I am giving up. My girlfreind has distracted me with a glass of fine South African wine. Try again on the weekend.10:00
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shockbandit: dpkg-reconfigure gdm10:00
bubbangahow do you get xmms to play in stereo i have it currently set to alsa output  and for some reason the volume slider doens't change the volume10:00
shockshould do it10:01
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albi1ren0, nice evening...then10:01
ren0Thanks albi110:01
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Banditshock thankyou10:01
shocknp10:01
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arji had some problems with user accounts10:03
arjsomebody can help me?10:03
shocku did?10:03
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shockwhats the prob10:03
arjthe problem is that i can't login!10:03
arjduring installtion10:03
arjthe installer asked me10:03
arjto choose a fullname for a user10:04
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arjthen put the username and password10:04
arjbut when i completed installation10:04
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arjand i wrote the username and password10:04
arjin the login gap10:05
arjit didn't do login10:05
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spiralW: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)10:10
spiralW: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)10:10
spiralhmmm... is there a problem with the ftps ?10:11
rootcan anyone tell me how can I add 1152 and over refresh rates to ubuntu..I know my monitor supports but I can't see them in list10:11
shockanyone: what was the boot parameter for single user?10:12
johns_try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree8610:12
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TreadingSoftlyHi folks, i'm trying to get beagle working with gsf-sharp in hoary. However, ./autogen.sh for gsf-sharp throws up a complaint about not having a high enough version of gtk-sharp. I pulled gtk-sharp off the mono cvs. If I make install gtk-sharp will it screw up my system or is that relatively safe? NB the autogen for gtk-sharp says it isn't included various "optional assemblies" e.g. gnome-sharp.dll glade-sharp.dll panelapplet-sharp.dll... etc. Doe10:12
tritiumshock, single10:12
rootthanks10:12
shockthx10:13
johns_and @root: are you _really_ on irc on you root account?10:13
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roothahah yea...just going just goin10:13
rootbyee10:13
johnnygeargrindeI have a Dell laptop running Warty, I am having trouble with my touch pad, how can I alter it?10:14
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TreadingSoftlyjohnnygeargrinde: what sort of trouble?10:15
johnnygeargrindei.e. When I slide my finger across the pad it sometimes goes foward in pages and sometime goes back in pages10:15
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Coilyis there a defrag app installed with ubuntu10:16
johns_Coily: no need for it10:16
johnnygeargrindeI would like to change the sensitivity10:16
johns_try xset10:16
Coilywhys that10:17
TreadingSoftlyjohnnygeargrinde: probably, the sensitivity can be changed with Preferences > Mouse10:17
johnnygeargrindethank you10:17
johns_with that you can set the mouse sensitivity10:17
Coilyer why no need for defrag10:17
TreadingSoftlyjohnnygeargrinde: that held true with my Thinkpad T40 anyhow... although I don't know how to configure more advanced touchpad functions10:17
johns_it's no fat32 coily10:17
johnnygeargrindeok I will try it10:18
shocker10:18
shockquestion:10:18
shocksingle user mode10:18
Coilywhat prevents ext3 from getting fragmented10:18
shockroot password for maintenance?10:18
shockO_o10:18
shockany hint?10:18
johns_Coily: why should a filesystem fragment?10:19
tritiumshock, there is none10:19
TreadingSoftlyshock: I believe you can set the root password by going into a root session with sudo -s -H then running passwd10:19
tritium^^^ is correct10:19
TreadingSoftlyshock: (seems to work for me)10:19
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shocki have a root password10:19
Coilyrather what about ext3 prevents frafmentation...10:19
shockits just that the login by arj wont work10:19
eruinanyone know who created gartoon?10:19
TreadingSoftlyshock: arj?10:19
bubbangacan someone please help me with setting up volume in xmms please?10:20
shockhey in this channel10:20
shock;)10:20
shockhe's10:20
darkxA friend of mine was wondering if the AMD64 version of ubuntu could run 32 bit apps as well?10:20
arjme10:20
shock:)10:20
darkx(his wording not mine ^^)10:20
TreadingSoftlyshock: i see10:20
tritiumshock, you set it up, then10:20
shockso - any way around the maintenance?10:20
bubbangafor some reason the gnome slider will not change its volume only if i switch gnomes slider to master mono but in xmms i have it set to pcm what gives10:20
Coilyjohns_ rather what about ext3 prevents frafmentation...10:20
jrydberg___do I have to do anything special to upgrate from 4.1 to Hoary, except altering sources.list and do a dist-upgrade?10:20
TreadingSoftlyshock: i, at least, am still confused on exactly what you're trying to do...10:20
johns_Coily: it's just smart in the way it allocates blocks 'n stuff10:20
johns_fat32 is a moron10:21
johns_;)10:21
shocklogon to single user to set the new password/user10:21
TreadingSoftlyjyrdberg__: pray?10:21
shockas he is lacking a lice cd of any sort10:21
TreadingSoftlyjyrdberg__: and it helps if your warty install is relatively fresh and untampered with10:21
tatterdemalionproh yeah!10:21
tatterdemalionprit works10:21
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tatterdemalionprim gunna go celebrate, thanks guys!!10:22
shockwow - major x upgrades in hoary10:22
shock:)10:22
jrydberg___crap, GRUB can't handle my new disk!10:22
TreadingSoftlyshock: do you mean you're trying to create another user account?10:22
tritiumshock, you set a root password but forgot it?10:22
Coilyimagine "_" as a file __________ one file gets deleted __ _______, how can smart allocation prevent that10:22
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shockno! argh! I am not that weird to forget any root password!10:23
tritiumshock, please explain then10:23
shocknot even the one set @ campus 4 years ago :P10:23
TreadingSoftlyshock: no problem, man, but i think we're still a bit confused here10:23
shockarj has forgotten his password/username he used to install the system10:23
Coilyubuntuguide.org has some methods10:23
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shocknow he's screwed10:24
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johns_Coily: linux caches files before they get written to disk10:24
TreadingSoftlyshock: ah... hmmm...10:24
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shockand since i think he's a guy - being screwed is one of the last things he would want10:24
tritiumshock, have him reboot into single user mode and reset the user's passwd10:24
shockthats what i was telling him to do10:24
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johns_so when that cache is flushed, ext2 or whatever can figure out the best way to store everything10:24
shockbut single user asks for a root password10:24
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keyshawn2howdy. i have a quick question about nautilus. [yes, i did look in its help files about it] 10:24
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keyshawn2how do i configure it so that it DOES NOT open up a new window every time I enter a new folder ?10:25
fraggstaHere's a question:  Can I install CVSCedega and have WINE (from the ubuntu packages) installed concurrently?10:25
shockok - this is so stressfull I'm gonna take my beer out for a walk and a smoke on the balcony10:25
shockbrb10:25
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fraggstaI noticed the wineinstall script for CVSCedega said that I already had a version of WINE installed and that I should remove it first.10:25
tritiumman, if that were the least of my stresses, I'd be a happy man10:25
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johns_keyshawn2: edit>preferences>behaviour10:26
G2perl or python?10:27
fraggstaruby ;)10:27
LinuxJonesG2, Python :)10:28
Xappefraggsta, shouldn't cedega be able to run regular programs as well as games?10:28
G2LinuxJones, Perl!!!10:28
Xappeinstalled the cvs yesterday10:28
fraggstaXappe, no, there are many programs cedega does not run as well as WINE.  Cedega is good at DirectX and the rest of its code is rather old.  I have several programs that work in WINE, but not Cedega.10:29
roal2000Hi. i get a couple of MD5Sum mismatches when doing apt-get update under Hoary. Does anyone know about this?10:29
Xappefraggsta, ok10:29
Xappei only need the gamesupport since there is a linux version of dc++ nowadays10:29
fraggstais there?  wow10:30
Xappeyes, installed it yesterday too...not 100% stable, but it's seems better than valknut...10:30
randabisroal2000, I'm getting the same md5sum mismatches10:31
Xappe*it10:31
shockre10:31
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shock*njam @ beer*10:31
fraggstawhere is it?  the DC++ site has a source link, is that it?10:31
Xappefraggsta, w8 i'll fetch the url for you10:32
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arjshock didn't work10:32
Xappefraggsta, http://linuxdcpp.berlios.de/articles.php?um=index10:32
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Anubishttp://xfce-goodies.berlios.de/images/xfce4-weather-plugin.png10:32
shocki kno10:32
Xappeget the source by cvs and compile with scons10:32
shock:(10:32
shockenter root password10:32
shock:/10:32
Anubishow do I get that on my taskbar?10:32
arjthere is NOT root password10:33
shocki know10:33
shockfigured that out just after u left :(10:33
shockcrap10:33
tritiumarj, root account is disabled by default10:33
roal2000randabis: good to know that im not the only one10:33
shocku shure u dont have an ancient knoppix somewhere??10:33
arjI read this10:33
arjbut what can i do then?10:34
Xappewell if you need the root account, just activate it10:34
arji don't need a root account10:34
arji need a VALID account10:34
roal2000randabis: has this ever happened to you before?10:34
shockyes10:34
arjit seem i've not created account at all10:34
shocku need the installation account10:34
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blah09has anyone tried using a usb gamepad with linux?10:34
fraggstaXappe, hey thanks - that's made my day :)10:35
shockany clue about if u misstyped the username?10:35
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shockany variations tried?10:35
Xappefraggsta: hehe, it made my day yesterday :)10:35
arji'm sure10:35
fraggstaXappe, for some reason I've never had much luck with dcgui..hopefully this will work better10:35
arji've typed it right10:35
Xappefraggsta, valknut has a horrible gui10:35
sridoes anybody get this?10:35
sriFailed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  MD5Sum mismatch10:36
sriFailed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary/main/source/Sources.gz  MD5Sum mismatch10:36
Banditanyone know if some of the repositories are down10:36
sriFailed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz  MD5Sum mismatch10:36
fraggstaXappe, is valknut the QT one?10:36
tritiumsri, yes, just wait a while and try again10:36
sritritium: ok.10:36
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surrounderanyone familiar with mpd under ubuntu/debian ?10:36
Xappefraggsta, valknut is dcgui-qt10:36
fraggstasurrounder, yeah10:36
Banditthank you tritium10:36
Xappefraggsta, linuxdcpp is gtk :)10:36
surrounderfraggsta: wel...I can connect to my running server, but it won't play, can't find any error messages either, ideas?10:36
tritiumBandit, :)10:37
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fraggstasurrounder, can you look in /etc/mpd.conf and tell me what audio output plugin it is using?10:37
darkxhm why does the gnutella-gtk package not install a binary?10:37
darkxanyone had that problem?10:38
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surrounderfraggsta: nothing there about that, but thanks for pointing out that file, I think I will manage from here :)10:38
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fraggstasurrounder, the errors should be in /var/log/mpd/mpd.log (at least that's what my config file tells me)10:38
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Xappeare there any good studio software for linux (something similar to soundforge or such programs)10:39
tritiumXappe, have you looked at audacity?10:39
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Xappetritium, no, but i'll check it out10:40
Xappethinking of setting up a studio computer for my band10:40
arjwhat is hotplug subsystem?10:40
fraggstasurrounder, also just try installing mpc and doing "mpc play" - it might give you more helpful errors - the other thing I can tell you is that for some reason when I last tried forcing the audio output to ALSA it wouldn't play anything - also, you need to add the "mpd" user to the "audio" group (/etc/group) for anything to play10:40
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floaterhey is there a way to see my running processes in windows-alike window ?10:41
floatersome ctrl+esc or something wasn't it in general in linux or?10:41
tritiumXappe, this new live CD is based on ubuntu: http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=demudi10:41
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unpersonfloater: Applications->System Tools->System Monitor10:42
Xappetritium, ah, nice10:42
floaterohh, thx10:42
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unpersonfloater: No idea if there's a way to use a key sequence to bring it up, but you can put it as an applet in the panel.10:43
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surrounderfraggsta: great, thanks for your help :)10:44
floater:) it's alright... thanks10:44
fraggstasurrounder, any luck yet?10:44
arjwhat is hotplug subsystem?10:44
arjit occur 6 fatal error while booting10:44
AcidMaXanyone install clearlook ?10:44
drwhoim trying to get the various package mirrors to work that are on the ubuntu wiki but am having little luck anyone know of a good repository other then the archive.ubuntu. one for hoary packages?10:45
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AcidMaXI installed clearlook but I am trying to install http://www.crystalgnome.org/gtkclear.htm and not sure the download is just icons, where do they go?10:45
fraggstaarj, hotplug *should* generate events the OS can understand when you plug in/remove removable devices:  ie USB/firewire/CDs10:45
arjok10:45
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arjand what could the cause of these fatal errors?10:46
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arj*could be10:46
lexhideranyone else having problems with 'apt-get update' w/ hoary?10:46
fraggstaarj: can you do "sudo grep hotplug /var/log/messages" and tell me what it says?10:46
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arjif i was on ubuntu, maybe10:46
fraggsta:(10:46
arjbut i can't logon10:46
arjas i said before10:47
fraggstaohshi10:47
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fraggstacould you ssh into it from another machine?10:47
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arjhave only one pc10:48
drwhoubuntu needs a mirror select app like gentoo it would make the repository situation alot easier10:48
arj:/10:48
cthulfuegodrwho: What, like apt-setup?10:48
lexhiderPackages downloads but then I get: MD5Sum mismatch10:49
mjthe10:49
arjif you tell me how can i logon i can try to see and tell you what it says10:49
arj:/10:49
mjti just solved this same prob (MD5Sum) a few hour ago10:49
mjtfsvo "solved"10:49
Linemanmjt how??10:50
fraggstaarj, can you get to the console perhaps?  press ctrl+alt+f1 and hope that you see a black and white logon screen10:50
arj:)10:50
arjok10:50
arjbut if it doesn't accept my username and password?10:50
mjtLineman, lexhider: what version of apt do you have right now?10:50
arjthe problem is not the graphical logon or the console10:51
Linemannot sure how would i tell?10:51
AcidMaXanyone know how i install http://www.crystalgnome.org/gtkclear.htm ?10:51
arjthe problem is that there is not a user account10:51
mjtLineman: dpkg -p apt will tell you (for one010:51
Anubishttp://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz: MD5Sum mismatch10:51
lexhidermjt: 0.6.3110:51
mjtfun10:51
LinemanVersion: 0.6.3210:51
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mjtin short: *my* problem went away when i upgraded apt from 0.6.30 to 0.6.32 (manually, by d/loading .debs from archive.ubuntu.com and installing them with dpkg)10:52
mjtbut there's nothing really relevant in changelog10:52
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stuNNedare there snapshots of hoary anywhere besides livecd?10:53
mjtI noticied it (MD5Sum mismatch) yesterday and asked here several times but no answers10:54
apokryphosstuNNed: All Linux distros look the same ;); mainly KDE/Gnome that effects the look. I can give you mine though, if you want.10:54
Linemancould the repositories be down?10:54
LBMi have the same problem10:55
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mjtright now the repository machine is up and running10:55
mjt(or else we all will be having different probs - like unable to connect etc)10:55
Bandityou sure :)10:55
apokryphosall repositories seem fine to me10:56
BanditFailed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  MD5Sum mismatch10:56
BanditFailed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary/main/source/Sources.gz  MD5Sum mismatch10:56
Banditthat is from a machine that usually works10:56
Gusto_Bandit: i get the same10:56
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Gusto_just stopped working10:57
randabisYeah it's a hoary-wide problem right now guys10:57
Gusto_sometime today10:57
Linemanthere are several of us getting the same10:57
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randabisI suggest trying again in a few hours10:57
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Gusto_:-)10:57
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Linemanthank you randabis10:57
TreadingSoftl1any hoary beagle users here?10:57
cthulfuegono, i have a cat10:57
randabishah10:58
TreadingSoftl1cthulfuego: but does it find things for you? :)10:58
randabisI'm still not sure what beagle even is...lol10:58
Banditapokryphos we must be checking different ones ;)10:58
TreadingSoftl1cthulfuego: (and i'm not talking about dead mice)10:58
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cthulfuegoTreadingSoftl1: Yep! Mainly live bird and toy mice, though.10:58
TreadingSoftl1randabis: it's an advanced desktop search program currently in beta for gnome ... kinda like Apple's recently announced Spotlight10:59
randabisah10:59
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cthulfuegoTreadingSoftl1: Is it apt-get installable?10:59
randabisI don't have much use for that presently10:59
TreadingSoftl1cthulfuego: no10:59
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Gusto_ can I use yum in ubuntu?11:00
hybridi got an 504 unknown error  when i apt-get dist-upgrade can i still go on?11:00
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TreadingSoftl1cthulfuego: instructions for hoary install of beagle are here: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HoaryBeagleInstallHowto ... though I've hit a bit of a snag with one of the extensions :(11:00
cthulfuegoHmm, snags...11:01
Gusto_whats beagle?11:01
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jdubGusto_: www.gnome.org/projects/beagle/11:02
Gusto_jdub: thanks11:03
cthulfuegoTreadingSoftl1: That all seems just a little bit too much like work ;-)11:03
randabisGusto_, why would you want to use yum...11:03
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randabisapt > yum11:03
hybridyea it is11:04
Gusto_I like yum better, dont know why really.11:04
randabisI don't think anyone has made yum work with debian systems11:04
lexhiderIs there an apt-get flag for ignoring the md5sum, because I'm downloading the Packages, it just reports a mismatch.11:05
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randabishybrid, I would suggest laying off on any apt-getting for the moment11:05
randabisthere seems to be a big problem going on in hoary's repositories atm11:06
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Burn`yep, somebody knows when its fixed?11:07
wdhlexhider, same for me..11:07
randabisjust hold off on your updating for now...I'm sure it will be fixed soon11:07
randabisA lot of upstreaming has been going on today so it's possible there was a mistake somewhere along the way11:08
wdhand lexhider md5sums arent something you want to ignore imho11:09
cthulfuegoNo, coz if they don't match, data in the files has changed.11:10
hybridrandabis : why] 11:10
randabiswhy what?11:10
Coilyhas anyone managed to get mplayer to work with the downloadwith extension?11:10
hybridoo ok11:10
randabisah okay11:10
cthulfuegomaybe the 'md5sum' app used to generate the lists was h4xx0r3dz and is now outputting false data.11:11
mjtok, so my upgrading apt was just happen right when the md5sum prob went away temporarily, it had nothing to do with the problem11:11
hybridwell will it mess anything up cuz i already got alot of packages11:11
randabislol11:11
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raphaWhen I have a password which I use for WEP encryption, how do I know what that password is in HEX?11:11
randabisthe packages you already go "should" be okay...I think it would be best to hold off until it it is fixed though11:12
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GeneralCodyrapha, convert it to hex11:12
hybridok11:12
hybridso just exit out of the terminal?11:12
cthulfuegohybrid: It probably will. Just don't *install* any of them.11:12
raphaGeneralCody: Just so, using the ASCII table?11:13
lexhiderI'll try again later, bye.11:13
hybridok thanx11:13
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hybridok thank you11:14
jrydberg___I got an error 18 (Selected cylinder exceeds maximum supported by BIOS) from GRUB.  Do you think it would help to make a own partition for /boot and put it first on the disk?11:14
cthulfuegorapha: Just use a little util to convert. Shall I write one in C?11:14
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GeneralCodyrapha, U have your WEP in Decimal, right?11:14
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GeneralCodyrapha, then u must use a dec-->HEX converter11:15
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raphaGeneralCody: Well, no. It's a password, like "jimmy123"...11:16
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mjtiwconfig understands both string and hex form11:16
cthulfuegorapha: http://www.cafuego.net/hex.c11:16
hybridi remember this tool in winblows called simple tool kit11:16
GeneralCodyok. there is plenty of tools to convert that to HEX. Just google it11:16
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hybridand in it it had a decimal hex binary and a few other converters11:17
cthulfuegorapha: Compile it with 'make hex', then run it as ./hex password11:17
hybridfound it at astalavista11:17
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cthulfuegoProbably even printf %X at the console works.11:17
mjtiwconfig ethX key s:jimmy123 should work11:18
mrzerohi there, i'm having some md5sum problems with the ubuntu archives when i'm apt-get updating .. anone know what to do/are others experiencing the same problem? Worked earlier today11:18
mjteveryone's having md5sum problem11:18
cthulfuegomrzero: Yes, stop running updates for now.11:18
mrzerookey :)11:18
mjtbecause md5sum in the repository indeed does not match11:18
cthulfuegoCould someone add that to the topic?11:19
mjtbtw, where you guys store your WEP passwords in ubuntu?11:19
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grendelhello11:19
cthulfuegomjt: I just pop mine in interfaces and chmod 600 it.11:19
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mjtcthulfuego: with iwconfig?11:20
spiralhi11:20
spiralhmmm... is there a problem with archive ?11:20
spiral"W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)"11:20
mjtspiral: yes there is ;)11:20
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grendelguys, got a question about Xorg slowness in Hoary11:20
spiralmjt: so that's normal & not a problem on my computer ?11:20
mpqI don't know how to install mplayer11:20
cthulfuegomjt: No, I add "wireless_key eth0 s:MyPwdD" in interfaces11:20
mjtspiral: just wait, it's a problem in the archive site11:20
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spiralmjt: all right :-)11:21
randabisspiral, it's a general problem with hoary's repos atm11:21
mpqI downloaded it but I don't know what to do with it11:21
grendelI'm running the up to date Hoary on ThinkPad G41 and I'm seeing a weird behavior with the display slowness11:21
kobsHello... is it possible to use Hoary KDE packages on a Warty system? Warty KDE packs are a bit old :/11:21
grendelcan anybody give a hand?11:21
spiralrandabis: all right, thanks11:21
cthulfuegoNot without an amputation, sorry11:21
hybridlol11:22
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mjtwarty have KDE? i didn't know...11:22
kobsin universe11:22
mjtah ok11:22
kobsso... i guess that's a no :|11:23
grendelkobs, edit your /etc/apt/sources.list11:23
mjtwell, give it a try kobs, why not?11:23
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raphacthulfuego: In principle this works, but it doesn't output a 26-character long value11:23
kobsi guess11:23
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grendelkobs, append 'universe' to your deb line referring to the archive11:23
kobsyea, i will try that now11:23
grendelkobs, doesn't matter, do it in synaptic11:23
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kobsjust wasnt sure if hoary packages would work in warty11:24
grendelit all boils down to editing sources.list anyway11:24
kobsim new to *debian11:24
mjtkobs: you will have to upgrade some more packages for that to work11:24
jason_evening folks11:24
kobshmm okay, thank you11:24
grendelso, anyboy in the know of the hoary's Xorg?11:24
mjtwhat's so special in the hoary's Xorg?11:24
scoonanyone here having trouble apt'ing in hoary main today ?11:25
jason_nothing11:25
grendelthat the i810 driver is acting weird11:25
mjtscoon: everyone does11:25
grendelwhen I switch the desktops, or even alt-tab between windows - SOMETIMES I can see the screen redrawn11:25
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scoonmjt, what is the scoop ?11:25
grendellike I was running on an i386 machine11:25
randabisgrendel, daniels has been working hard on that driver iirc. There seems to be a lot of problems with it11:25
grendeland 2 miuntes later, it's instanteneous11:25
kobsmjt: will apt automatically upgrade those packages for me11:25
grendelrandabis, hm, ok11:25
jason_scoon:  same issue here11:25
mjtkobs: yes11:25
kobsyay11:26
grendelrandabis, I  thought it could have been a HT problem11:26
jason_scoon: just going to wait a few hours and retry11:26
grendelit also managed to oops the kernel in drm :)11:26
scoonjason_, have any idea what is up ?11:26
randabishmm11:26
randabisscoon md5sum errors is what is up :/11:27
grendelrandabis, I'm running self-compiled kernels, and the problem was in intelfb, vesafb works fine11:27
mjtscoon: apt tells you everything, and md5sums are indeed does not match -- in the repository aka archive.ubuntu.com11:27
randabishmm11:27
grendelbut you should see the screen redraw.... :)11:27
grendela 3.2Ghz machine and it is slow as mud :)11:27
scoonmjt, thanks.  I read the err.  I was just curious if anyone new anything more than the OBVIOUS .11:27
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mjtnext is to figure out WHY sums does not match in the repository ;)11:28
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grendelrandabis, any idea whether the CVS xorg could be better for that driver?11:28
blah09hey randabis, did your joystick install go flawlessly?11:29
randabisno clue11:29
raphacthulfuego: Okay, we just needed to put "0"s in front of it11:29
raphaWorked, thanks!"11:29
grendelok, thanks anyway11:29
shockdamn... are the ubuntu sources completely bungled for anyone else right now?11:29
jason_does universe multiverse or restricted have non-free software?11:29
grendelI'll play with the CVS drivers11:29
grendeland the intel binary ones11:29
grendell8rs11:29
randabisblah09, it works, if that's what you mean.11:30
blah09do you have to reboot?11:30
randabisshock, yes, there are problems11:30
randabisno11:30
scoonmjt, the WHY is what i was interested in.  I guess that is in process.11:30
GeneralCodyThis is my first night fooling around with ubuntu. Can i find the ATI Radeon drivers in Universe?11:30
mjtsomeone with the ops rights please add this damn md5sum thing into the /topic ;)11:31
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spiralGeneralCody: linux-restricted-modules11:31
GeneralCodyoki11:31
spiralGeneralCody: and xorg-fglrx or xfree86-fglrx or smth like this11:31
blah09oh you have to plug it in first lol11:34
spiralblah09: :-)11:34
blah09i mean for it to create /dev/js0 ;)11:34
blah09hey mjt, what does mjt stand for if you dont mind me asking11:35
blah09i know another guy named mjt lol11:35
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mjti found in spam that there are alot of mjt@something emails ;)11:36
hybridanyone have a list of good commands for irssi?11:36
spiralmjt: nice method :-p11:36
mjthybrid: try /help ;)11:36
hybridok thnx11:36
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hybridmjt  i did /help and /whois mjt in the channel but i got nothing11:38
jason_anyone kkow if there is an official or unofficial  place to chat in general about the GNU movement?11:38
mjtblah09: haven't noticied you question.. it's just after my initials11:38
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hikaru79How can I add .ttf fonts to Ubuntu? (For use in OpenOffice, mainly)11:38
hikaru79jason_, try #gnu11:39
randabisput them in /home/user/.fonts11:39
hikaru79=P11:39
cthulfuegohikaru79: I think you just plonk them in ~/.fonts11:39
mjthybrid: try hitting Alt+1 (switching into window #1) -- everything is there.  Alt+number will switch to window #number11:39
hikaru79Sweet! It's that easy?11:39
randabissure11:39
AndyRlo all11:39
cthulfuegohikaru79: Well, you could run a remote font server and add them to that if you prefer something harder...11:39
AndyRndiswrapper is cool11:39
hybridoo ok thnx11:39
blah09hm11:40
AndyRgot my wusb54g working in a few mins11:40
blah09anyone use SNES9x?11:40
randabisinstalling fonts that way makes them available for your user only though11:40
randabisgsnes9x yes11:40
hikaru79randabis, that's fine11:40
SavCan someone recomend a ood ftp client? multiple transfers/tabs/etx11:40
randabisI'm gonna switch back to zsnes when the package is finally updated to 1.40011:40
mpqI don't know how to compile11:40
hybrid./11:41
AndyRSav, i use gftp11:41
SavAndyR, well me to, im looking for something better11:41
hybridmpq : go to the dir you need to be in then type ./name-xxx-version11:41
blah09i dont know how to start gsnes lol11:41
blah09and snes9express doesnt work too well11:41
hikaru79If ~/.fonts doesn't exist, I just create it?11:42
blah09isnt the command gsnes?11:42
AndyRSav, whats wrong with it?11:42
randabishikaru79, yes11:42
randabisremember /home/user/.fonts11:42
randabisnot just /.fonts11:42
hikaru79Got it :)11:42
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SavAndyR, cant have more then 1 ftp at a time, cant handla multiple transfers and i cant sent site commands.11:42
mjtif you aren't afraid of the command line (which is far more productive when you're used to it), try lftp11:43
hikaru79w00t, it works. Thanks guys.11:44
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randabisnp11:44
randabisblah09, gsnes9x11:45
randabiserr11:45
Savmjr, lftp is good, but i'd like a graphcal interface11:45
randabishold on11:45
blah09=/11:45
blah09i think its broken11:45
blah09heh11:45
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blah09it puts a link in usr/bin doesnt it?11:46
mjtSav: just as i said: if you don't afraid of the command line ;)11:46
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mpqI can't figure out how to change directories in the terminal11:46
randabisGsnes9x11:46
randabismake sure you do Gsnes9x not gsnes9x11:47
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blah09ah got it11:47
wdhmpq, define 'change'11:47
blah09thanks randabis11:47
randabisGSnes9x :p11:47
mpqI'm trying to figure out how to compile something11:47
randabisthere11:47
mpqbut I don't know how11:47
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randabisrtfw11:48
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hybridpq It should come with an INSTALL file, but './configure' 'make' 'sudo make install' is what most require.11:48
hybridmpq11:49
mpqhuh?11:49
blah09hey where does snes9x install itself to do you know?11:49
mpqI don't really understand11:49
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hybridto compie type ./ in the command line11:50
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hybrid./configure11:50
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mpq./MPlayer-1.0pre6a: is a directory11:50
mpqdid I do it wrong?11:51
randabisyou have to cd to that directory11:51
hybridmpq : y do you want to compile? just use synaptic11:51
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mpqI think I figured out what I did wrong11:51
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hybridok11:51
mpqI forgot it was case sentitive11:51
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randabismpq use this guide11:52
randabishttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=9411:52
Linemanhybrid cause synaptic isnt working at present11:52
hybridoo yea11:52
hybridsrry forgot11:53
Lineman:)11:53
jrydberg___so, upgrading to hoary!  i guess it's better to do that from the console rather then from X?11:53
jrydberg___is there any guide for this?11:53
Xappecheck the wiki and forums for a guide11:53
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randabisjrydberg___, it doesn't matter, but do NOT attempt to do that right now11:54
shingokiiDoes anyone know why, after I install nvidia drivers, I can't log out any more?11:54
randabisthe hoary repositories are broken atm11:54
jrydberg___randabis: why's that11:54
randabisthe hoary repositories are broken atm11:54
Xappenot for me11:54
XappeI had hat md5sum message, but now it's gone11:55
Xappe*that11:55
hybridXappe : they were on and off to me when i was dist-upgrading11:55
randabisyeah the md5sum errors seem to be gone for me now too11:55
shingokiiohhh... I can log out, I just have to wait a while11:55
randabisI guess it "might" be fixed now11:55
mpqI want to change what the terminal looks like11:56
randabisjrydberg___, you "should" be fine now...go ahead and try your upgrade. It doesn't matter if you are in X11:56
hybridi am still gonna wait a while11:56
mpqI want it to be black with white text, like dos11:56
Xappei've been dist-upgrading at least three times the last hour without any errors11:56
mpqis there a way to do this?11:56
randabisedit your profile11:56
jrydberg___randabis: how stable is hoary right now?11:57
hybridwhen i mount a cd what is the dir path to it11:57
hybrid?11:57
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raphagnight11:58
_|Imanewbie|_can anyone give me a hand with sound while playing movies in xine?11:58
mpqwhat does sudo mean?11:58
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_|Imanewbie|_mpq: superuserdo11:58
hybridit is temp root11:58
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randabisjrydberg___, depends on what you mean by stable11:59
jrydberg___randabis: will it crash ten times per day?11:59

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