[12:00] <farruinn> WW: do 'dpkg-reconfigure --default-priority xserver-xfree86', afaik that will
[12:00] <apokryphos> bzbb: Use K3B.
[12:00] <Loevborg> bzbb, then you'll have to use k3b
[12:00] <zerokarmaleft> randabis, i was using several ubp packages and i dist-upgraded to hoary fine around array 3's release
[12:00] <Pugio-Other> randabis and I got that OS X theme it's great
[12:00] <bzbb> thanks
[12:00] <Pugio-Other> so, I shouldn't upgrade FF then?
[12:00] <randabis> you could just use the backport, but you'll have to remember to remove it when you upgrade to hoary
[12:00] <aroben> zerokarmaleft: gnome-panel: Depends: libecal1.2-1 (>= 1.1.4.2) but it is not installable
[12:00] <aroben>                Depends: libedataserver1.2-0 (>= 1.1.4.2) but it is not installable
[12:00] <Pugio-Other> ahh, ok
[12:00] <mike998> steve_:you here?
[12:00] <mpq> how do I get my computer to boot from a CD?
[12:00] <Pugio-Other> randabis and I can just remove through Synaptic like normal?
[12:01] <randabis> sure
[12:01] <mpq> I am such a noob
[12:01] <mpq> I used to think I knew everything about computers
[12:01] <mpq> but now I don't know anything
[12:01] <apokryphos> Pugio-Other: What version of firefox have you got?
[12:01] <uxf> mpq: make sure bios is set to boot from your cd driv
[12:01] <uxf> e
[12:01] <farruinn> Pugio-Other: is there something specific you need in ff 1.0? the warty version is fine really
[12:01] <mpq> I'll try that
[12:01] <shock> wow! could it be? should evolution be fixed as of today? *happy*
[12:02] <Pugio-Other> farruinn well, a theme I want doesn't work in this version
[12:02] <terry> I was just gonna ask the same thing.  There was an update, but the same floiting point exception error
[12:02] <Pugio-Other> apkryphos it's 0.9.3
[12:02] <terry> shock ...^^^
[12:02] <apokryphos> Pugio-Other: Are you using warty?
[12:02] <Pugio-Other> yes
[12:02] <Pugio-Other> apokryphos yes
[12:02] <aroben> zerokarmaleft: Any ideas?
[12:02] <apokryphos> Pugio-Other: Why not upgrade to hoary?
[12:03] <guptan> I'm getting "could not open resource for writing" error message in Totem, when trying to play media files. What can be the error?
[12:03] <Pugio-Other> apokryphos cause this is for a total newb and I want everything to be stable
[12:03] <terry> guptan "could not open resource for writing"
[12:03] <randabis> guptan probably using totem-gstreamer instead of totem-xine
[12:03] <Pugio-Other> apokryphos people have told me that hoary still has a few issues in the context of a total newb
[12:04] <guptan> randabis, yes, I'm using gstreamer
 shock ...^^^ terry .... ^^^
[12:04] <shock> :P
[12:04] <terry> shock, I mean the statement about evolution
[12:04] <shock> terry, I know
[12:04] <apokryphos> Pugio-Other: Hoary really is quite stable (despite it being in developement). I haven't had any problems with it, and I use it a lot.
[12:04] <zOap_win> Hi, i need some help with ubuntu wharty and a wireless card..
[12:04] <shock> its great
[12:04] <randabis> guptan well you'll need the plugins for it...I never could get it working right so I just use totem-xine instead
[12:04] <terry> shock I was excited to see an update, but it still doesnt work
[12:04] <shock> ?
[12:04] <shock> what error do you get
[12:04] <shock> cause mine seems to be working now
[12:04] <Pugio-Other> apokryphos ughh, well, I don't really have time to upgrade
[12:04] <terry> shock floating point exception
[12:05] <zOap_win> anyone care to help me with this?
[12:05] <randabis> Pugio-Other, just use what works :)
[12:05] <terry> shock, it works in my 32bit root, not in my 64bit root
[12:05] <apokryphos> Pugio-Other: Alright. You could always update firefox manually. There's a guide on it. I'll get it, one sec.
[12:05] <guptan> randabis, it works fine for me in fedora
[12:05] <randabis> this isn't fedora
[12:05] <apokryphos> :P
 ok i only have this powerbook
[12:05] <shock> :)
[12:05] <guptan> randabis, I am not able to play mp3 files even in rhythmbox
[12:05] <zOap_win> ok, noone?
[12:05] <djk> zerokarmaleft: thanks dude
[12:05] <djk> turns out it DID change grub
[12:06] <farruinn> guptan: quite honestly, xine is better than gstreamer [in ubuntu] 
[12:06] <djk> changed hda2 to hda1
[12:06] <shock> and I am REALLY happy to be able to save my appointments again
[12:06] <djk> sneaky :>
[12:06] <randabis> guptan because you don't have the right plugins
[12:06] <zerokarmaleft> djk, awesome :)
[12:06] <randabis> gstreamer0.8-mad will give you mp3 playback in rhythmbox
[12:06] <WW> farruinn: Thanks for the tip.  I'll do some more searching to make sure about it, then give it a shot.
[12:06] <zOap_win> so much for a online support? i'd get more help at whalmart..
[12:06] <zerokarmaleft> aroben, don't know what to tell you about those evo packages
[12:06] <randabis> gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg "should" give you video playback
[12:06] <apokryphos> Pugio-Other: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/InstallingFirefox
[12:07] <farruinn> WW: you could just backup your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file and run it
[12:07] <aroben> zerokarmaleft: OK.  I think I'll try installing from the Array 4 iso.
[12:07] <randabis> Pugio-Other, just use the backport...won't hurt, just remember to remove it if you upgrade to hoary
 -- alittle more info might trigger some reaction ;)
[12:08] <shock> cause "wirelesscards" are like from I know some to I know nothing
[12:08] <zerokarmaleft> aroben, i've got 1.4.2 of libecal installed
[12:08] <shock> *shruggs*
[12:08] <WW> zOap_win: You're right. It's ridiculous that you can't get your question answered in less then three minutes.  Demand your money back!
[12:08] <zerokarmaleft> aroben, and i've been on hoary since about array 3
[12:08] <guptan> randabis, I have installed whatever gstreamer items I saw in universe
[12:08] <shock> hey! I got no complaints and I got 5 times the money back that I spent
[12:09] <aroben> zerokarmaleft: Weird.
[12:09] <zOap_win> shock, ok. i have the wharty release and just bought the smc2835W card. it's supposed to be supported under the prism54 driver but it doesnt.. it s recognised as Intersil GT... can you help me?
[12:10] <shock> *cough*
[12:10] <djk> hm
[12:10] <mpq> I can't figure out how to boot from a cd
[12:10] <djk> for some reason I can't modprobe ndiswrapper anymore..
[12:10] <shock> so what does dmesg say about that card
[12:10] <djk> gives me the FATAL: Error inserting stuff
[12:10] <terry> where is the ubuntu bugtracker
[12:10] <shock> i can only try and point to some directions as all I have ever done actually is get a wireless PCMCIA card into the university net
[12:10] <shock> :P
[12:10] <zOap_win> shock, Intersil 3890/Intersil GT
[12:11] <aulin> I was planning to install Ubuntu today, and i was wondering if it has support for the nforce3-chipsets ethernetcontroller?
[12:11] <jirwin> hello
[12:11] <mpq> I need help
[12:11] <jirwin> is there anyway to create a multivolume iso?
[12:11] <shock> and it wouldnt run on that driver?
[12:11] <uxf> mpq:did you try changin the bios
[12:11] <zOap_win> shock, but on the ubuntu webpage it said it was supported under the prism54 driver...
[12:11] <mpq> I don't know how
[12:11] <shock> maybe that changed?
[12:12] <zOap_win> shock, it runs(lights up) but nothing else
[12:12] <shock> have u checkked the forums?
[12:12] <zOap_win> shock, yes. no go
[12:12] <shock> ok - its an PCI or?
[12:12] <zOap_win> shock, pcmicia
[12:12] <mpq> I don't know how to change the bios
[12:12] <Hwolf> *grumble* I hate it if MSN is down.
[12:12] <shock> oh hmkay
[12:12] <iapx8088> Hwolf, i'm in at the moment.
[12:12] <uxf> mpq: press del or an fkey at boot
[12:12] <shock> in cardinfo its displayed as?
[12:13] <shock> and what status?
[12:13] <mpq> I'll try that
[12:13] <zOap_win> shock, you mean lspci -v? Intersil 3890/Intersil GT...
[12:13] <shock> no - "cardinfo"
[12:14] <zOap_win> shock, where to find?
[12:14] <Hwolf> iapx8088; Msn is down for most people around here. (Holland)
[12:14] <jirwin> is there any easy way with mkisofs to split a group of directories into 700MB chunks?
[12:14] <Infernal_Demon> does ubuntu bring a c compiler?
[12:14] <shock> i think its in the. ... erm... package thingy
[12:14] <apokryphos> has been having problems almost the whole of today. Msn, that is.
[12:14] <shock> maybe pcmcia-cs
[12:15] <zOap_win> shock, ok, i thought in linux.. gosh:) it's a smc2835w, pcmcia card..
[12:15] <ssam> jirwin i think tar might be able to do that, check the man page
[12:15] <jirwin> thanks
[12:16] <thechitowncubs> In this guide: http://prism54.org/phpwiki?pagename=Prism54%20Debian%20HowTo  , it says I need to compile the kernel to get the prism54 working, could anyone tell me the easiest way to do this?
[12:16] <Pugio-Other> thanks for the help guys:)
[12:16] <zOap_win> shock, the package sayssmc 2835w ez conext actually...
[12:16] <silva> what is the smb4k for debian
[12:17] <shock> hm
[12:17] <zOap_win> shock, another q, whre is the linux kernel in ubuntu? not in /usr/etc/ or /usr/libs
[12:17] <hikaru79> Are there any HOWTO's available for installing Ubuntu on a little USB drive? (I've got the 1GB variety)
[12:17] <shock> er... THE kernel is in /bott/....
[12:17] <shock> er... THE kernel is in /bo0t/....
[12:17] <shock> argh
[12:17] <shock> damn beer
[12:17] <thechitowncubs> Can anyone verify this guide (tell me if this is what I need to do to install this prism54 driver?
[12:17] <shock> boot
[12:18] <shock> and the kernel-source goes in /usr/src/
[12:18] <iapx8088> Hwolf, it has been down all the day
[12:18] <rattboi> I tried recompiling my kernel, and it kernel panics right out of the gate
[12:18] <rattboi> I followed this guide at www.desktop-linux.net
[12:18] <shock> the current config goes in /boot/config-version
[12:18] <mpq> I give up
[12:19] <iapx8088> mpq, doing what
[12:19] <thechitowncubs> Anyone?
[12:19] <zOap_win1> sorry, got disconnected..
[12:19] <mpq> the computer read the cd at startup
[12:19] <mpq> but it went and booted windows
[12:19] <mpq> it simply won't boot from the cd

[12:19] <shock> kernelcompile:
[12:19] <shock> get the sources
[12:19] <iapx8088> Hwolf, it's soo down this page was down too http://messenger.msn.com/Status.aspx
[12:19] <shock> untar the sources
[12:19] <iapx8088> mpq, did you md5 the cd iso?
[12:19] <uxf> mpq:sounds like a broken cd
[12:19] <zOap_win1> anyone can give me an easy guide to install ndiswrapper or any other sotware inwhich i can use my windows driver?
[12:19] <thechitowncubs> shock: what?
[12:19] <mpq> I don't know what that means
[12:19] <iapx8088> mpq the bios is setted correctly>?\
[12:20] <mpq> I think it is
[12:20] <iapx8088> mpq, where did you get that cd
[12:20] <Pugio-Other> ok I feel sheepish
[12:20] <shock> hold on - i think i had a kernel-compile howto somewhere
[12:20] <mpq> I burned it
[12:20] <Pugio-Other> where do I get the firefox backport again?
[12:20] <Lucien> Some, plz help me !
[12:20] <mpq> I downloaded the live cd iso off the website
[12:20] <Lucien> one*
[12:20] <Lucien> Damn.
[12:20] <mpq> but it's not working
[12:20] <Pugio-Other> Lucien what' your problem?
[12:20] <smurfd> question, anyone happen to run Horay on a Inspiron 1100? cus i tried the live release of Array 4 (i Think, or 3) where x.org only gave me a 800x600 res. where my intel card supports 1024x768. would that be a known issue, is it problem in x.org, or ubuntu, or ?!
[12:21] <shock> Kernel Compile howto ->>>> http://www.desktop-linux.net/debkernel.htm
[12:21] <shock> step by step
[12:21] <Pugio-Other> what's the link to the ubuntu backports?
[12:21] <zOap_win1> shock, was this for me?
[12:21] <Lucien> I have a problem with playing Divx movies in Totem-xine and every other general movie player. I cannot hear any sound @ Pugio-Other .
[12:21] <thechitowncubs> is it possible to do it through SSH?
[12:21] <mpq> could it have something to do with the fact that I'm on a laptop?
 shock, but on the ubuntu webpage it said it was supported under the prism54 driver...
[12:21] <uxf> mpq: no
 Can anyone verify this guide (tell me if this is what I need to do to install this prism54 driver?
[12:21] <thechitowncubs> yes...
[12:21] <shock> I guess your questions are related?
[12:21] <mpq> I'm going to see if it does it differently on my other computer
[12:22] <Pugio-Other> Lucien are you sure your sound card is even working?
[12:22] <shock> ;)
[12:22] <hikaru79> Are there any HOWTO's available for installing Ubuntu on a little USB drive? (I've got the 1GB variety)
[12:22] <Pugio-Other> Lucien ie. have you ever heard anything?
[12:22] <thechitowncubs> Shock: is it possible to compile through SSH?
[12:22] <Lucien> Jup, I am listening to music right now.
[12:22] <zOap_win1> shock, so i just follow this guide?
[12:22] <shock> yes
[12:22] <Lucien> And I can hear those awful Ubuntu sounds.
[12:22] <zOap_win1> shock, thanx:)
[12:22] <shock> hm
[12:22] <thechitowncubs> is that a yes to me?
[12:22] <jirwin> real quick, how do I make a tar of a directory?
[12:22] <shock> make shure to check the config for enableling the support for your card
[12:22] <shock> ;)
[12:22] <Pugio-Other> Lucien hmmm, then you don't hav the divx codec installed
[12:23] <Lucien> But I can actually watch the movies, just not hear the adio.
[12:23] <shock> tar -czf tar.tgz dirname
[12:23] <Lucien> audio*
[12:23] <kent> I found an easy way to crash my computer using updated Hoary. I plugin my Olympus C-310 camera with usb. It mounts, as it should since its an usb-mass-storage.  Then, if i pull the usbplug (some users might just do that), the computer freezes, and i cant do anything.
[12:23] <jirwin> shock, thanks
 <--- compiling via ssh is possible
[12:24] <djk> Lucien have you setup the movieplayer to use OSS
[12:24] <djk> or whatever
[12:24] <djk> I had to do that in mplayer before I got sound
[12:24] <djk> but xmms was fin
[12:24] <djk> e
[12:24] <shock> I have a linux router - it didnt have a monitor attached ever since the first install (4 years ago)
[12:24] <shock> *g*
[12:24] <djk> me too shock :)
[12:24] <zOap_win1> shock, well, since i dont have an internet connection on the machine im gonna update i cant do the apt-get.. any suggestions?
[12:25] <shock> urks... anyone know if the linux-kernel-sources are available on the install-cd?
[12:25] <Pugio-Other> Lucien well then the codec might not be installed orrectly
[12:25] <jirwin> i found -M for tar to create multivolumes...but how do I tell it how big of volumes I want?
[12:25] <mpq> I've come to the conclusion that it's not a boot cd at all
[12:25] <ssam> is libdvdcss2 availble of hoary on ppc?
[12:25] <Pugio-Other> uh oh
[12:25] <Pugio-Other> heeeellllp
[12:25] <mpq> I must have burned it wrong
[12:25] <Pugio-Other> I just changed my user name and now nothing works
 have you checked if the module for prism54 exists allready?
[12:25] <Lucien> Okay, I use the Hoary kernel, the rest is Warty.
[12:25] <Lucien> So, what could have gotten wrong ?
[12:25] <zOap_win1> shock, how do i do that?
[12:26] <Pugio-Other> Lucien honestly, I'm not too familiar with that area of things yet
[12:26] <shock> check the modules directory or try a couple of modprobes that sound likely
[12:26] <shock> ;)
[12:26] <Lucien> Okay, but thanks for the effort to help. :-)
[12:26] <zOap_win1> shock, like modprobe prism54?
[12:27] <shock> i.e.
[12:27] <randabis> yay, I helped fix a bug in hoary
[12:27] <shock> nice one randa
[12:27] <zOap_win1> shock, ok thanx. ill try
[12:27] <shock> u go
[12:27] <randabis> it was in the network tool in gnome-system-tools
[12:27] <shock> if all else fails: get the kernel-sources on another machine and burn it to a cd
[12:28] <randabis> if your hosts file had the wrong syntax, it would cause it to crash
[12:28] <mpq> I feel like an idiot
[12:28] <hikaru79> Are there any HOWTO's available for installing Ubuntu on a little USB drive? (I've got the 1GB variety)
[12:28] <mpq> I don't even know how to boot a cd
[12:28] <zOap_win1> shock, ok. it return nothing. so' id get the the newest kernel and then what? whats the installation procedure?
[12:29] <Pugio-Other> I have a serious problem here, which should have already been taken care of
[12:29] <Pugio-Other> I changed my user name in "Users and Groups" and now my syste is completely messed up
[12:29] <Pugio-Other> which shouldn't happen
[12:29] <shock> http://www.desktop-linux.net/debkernel.htm <-- its all there
[12:29] <zOap_win1> shock, thanx
[12:29] <shock> thats pretty much exactly what I do when building a kernel
[12:29] <shock> =)
[12:29] <mpq> I clearly don't have a clue how to use linux
[12:30] <mpq> do I have to burn it a special way to get it to boot from the cd?
[12:30] <Xappe> hmm, i now realise that I don't know how to install a program through cvs
[12:31] <shock> http://www.ubuntu-forum.de/thread.php?threadid=14 <--- found an ubuntu one
[12:31] <shock> =)

[12:31] <mpq> how do I burn a .iso file as the image?
[12:31] <zOap_win1> shock, ok. but then the question comes up again, i have no file /usr/src/linux....
[12:31] <Pugio-Other> Please someobyd why oh why does changing my user name zap my system?
[12:31] <randabis> mpq depends on program
[12:31] <mpq> all I have is the default windows software
[12:31] <shock> /usr/src/linux will be a symbolic link in /usr/src/ pointing to the current linux-kernel-source
[12:31] <rvirani> I think everyone on the Ubuntu team owes themselves a congrats, read the review on osnews.com
[12:32] <zOap_win1> shock, what language is that????
[12:32] <Pugio-Other> ok
[12:32] <shock> letz say you downloaded kernel-source-2.6.10.tar.bz2
[12:32] <randabis> did you get the linux-source package zOap_win1?
[12:32] <shock> then u do
[12:32] <shock> cd /usr/src
[12:32] <Pugio-Other> HOW can I open the "Users and Groups" panel from the command line?
[12:32] <shock> wait
[12:32] <zOap_win1> shock, yes. ive done that
[12:32] <zOap_win1> 2610 i mean
[12:32] <zOap_win1> randabis, yes 2.6.10
[12:33] <randabis> there should be a tarball you need to extract in /usr/src
[12:33] <kent> Pugio-Other, users-admin?
[12:33] <zOap_win1> shock. ok
[12:33] <Helios_> hey
[12:33] <randabis> tar xvjf kernelpackagename.tar.bz2
[12:33] <zOap_win1> randabis, what tarball?
[12:33] <mpq> I think I figured out how to burn an image directly from an iso
[12:34] <randabis> cd /usr/src
[12:34] <randabis> ls
[12:34] <zOap_win1> ok hang on
[12:34] <randabis> you should have a tar.bz2 file in there
[12:34] <randabis> something like linux-source-2.6.10.tar.bz2
[12:35] <Helios_> I've got a question about my laptops battery meter. there's this applet in the gnome pannel that should display its level, but it always displays 0%, even though the battery is fully charged.
[12:35] <Pugio-Other> kent THANKS
[12:35] <iapx8088> Helios_, cat /proc/acpi/battery/state or whatis
[12:36] <iapx8088> probably you are missing something acpi related
[12:36] <iapx8088> maybe you should load the module
[12:36] <Helios_> the dir /proc/acpi/battery/state doesn't excist
[12:36] <Helios_> what module should i load?
[12:37] <Pugio-Other> ok, so to ask a dumb question agin, where can I get the Firefox backport?
[12:37] <shock> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/KernelCompileHowto
[12:37] <t31> please any advaice about a minimum boot partition?
[12:37] <randabis> I'd say 30-50 minimum
[12:37] <randabis> I make mine 100
[12:37] <randabis> mb
[12:38] <zOap_win1> shock, randabis. ok. in usr/src/ now is a folder called rpm
[12:38] <t31> hey thx
[12:38] <Helios_> can ubuntu handle RPMs?
[12:39] <HrdwrBoB> Helios_: yes, and at the same time a huge resounding no
[12:39] <mpq> let's see if the disc WORKS this time
[12:39] <HrdwrBoB> Helios_: what do you want to install
[12:39] <randabis> in theory, but it wouldn't be a good idea
[12:40] <randabis> zOap_win1, no linux-source-2.6.10.tar.bz2?
[12:40] <Helios_> nothing , just curious since i thought it was a redhat feature
[12:40] <zOap_win1> randabis, no.
[12:40] <randabis> sudo apt-get install linux-source
[12:40] <Helios_> i'd rather use apt-get/synaptic or compile from source anyway
[12:40] <Pugio-Other> does ubuntu have cedega or WINE?
[12:40] <zOap_win1> randabis, i dont have a net connection.. that is my problem..
[12:40] <randabis> why are you going this anyway?
[12:41] <zOap_win1> randabis, i want my smc2835w card to work.. its wireles..
[12:41] <kent> Pugio-Other, it has wine
[12:41] <Helios_> well, cedega is commercial, so i don't suppose it ships with that
[12:41] <Pugio-Other> kent weird, synaptic doesn't see it at all
[12:41] <thechitowncubs> When I try to patch the kernel with this: sudo patch -p1 < /home/steve/patch-2.6.7-prism54-1.2
[12:41] <randabis> you need the linux-headers for your running kernel to compile a module then zOap_wini, not linux-source
[12:41] <kent> Pugio-Other, i bet you have not enabled the universe repositorie?
[12:42] <thechitowncubs> it comes up with : File to patch: (what should I put here?)
[12:42] <Pugio-Other> kent - doh!
[12:42] <randabis> Pugio-Other, it has an old version of WINE yes
[12:42] <Pugio-Other> randabis - and, to get the newer version?
[12:42] <shock> brb... i need to .... u dont want to know
[12:42] <zOap_win1> randabis, ok. so i just download that and compile it? i dont know how. never done it before..
[12:43] <mike998> is there any tool i can install on ubuntu to allow me to sniff if there are any wireless networks around?
[12:43] <Helios_> In case someone missed this: Ubuntu doesn't seem to be able to measure my laptops battery level. What should I do about it? What module whould I load?
[12:43] <randabis> you'll compile the module, not the whole kernel
[12:43] <Xappe> Pugio-Other, , there is an unofficial wine repository
[12:43] <Pugio-Other> Xappe - do tell
[12:43] <Helios_> mike998: you can use 'iwlist wlan0 scan'
[12:43] <randabis> mike998, I think it's already installed iwlist
[12:43] <zOap_win1> randabis. so i download the linux-headers from debian, and then what? what to type?
[12:44] <mike998> no scan results... strange i know there are at least 3 networks in range
[12:44] <randabis> you're using debian?
[12:44] <Pugio-Other> Xappe where is this repository?
[12:44] <thechitowncubs> Anyone know?
[12:44] <Helios_> Mike998: are there correct drivers installed for the card? Took me quite some effort to get mine working
[12:44] <zOap_win1> randabis, ubuntu whart
[12:44] <Xappe> hmm, wait, i'll check my sources.list
[12:44] <rvirani> ubuntu ownz
[12:44] <rvirani> :D
[12:44] <randabis> zOap_win1, then why would you get it from debian?
[12:44] <surrounder> juhjuh!
[12:45] <zOap_win1> randabis, ubuntu is debian based?
[12:45] <randabis> yes, but it doesn't use the same repositories
[12:45] <Helios_> Mike998 you can check with 'ifconfig -a' to see if it shows up there
[12:45] <silva> how i install this GNU autoconf + automake
[12:45] <zOap_win1> randabis. ok then igo to ubuntulinux an download the linux-headers right? and then what? how to compile it?
[12:46] <Xappe> Pugio-Other, deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/Ubuntu/apt/ binary/
[12:46] <farruinn> silva: apt-get install or synaptic is your friend
[12:46] <randabis> you'll need to get the linux headers, put them into /usr/src, then follow the directions for compiling the module you need
[12:46] <Xappe> Pugio-Other, deb-src http://wine.sourceforge.net/Ubuntu/apt/ source/
[12:46] <randabis> you'll need the source for the module you want to compile
[12:47] <zOap_win1> randabis. but where is the description? where to find it?
[12:47] <mike998> Helios_:pardon me, I stepped away...
[12:47] <Pugio-Other> Xappe - so in synaptic I would put in those links? do I put anything into the "secitons" field?
[12:47] <Helios_> np
[12:47] <mike998> Helios_: ndiswrapper -l shows the correct driver installed... but it's a 802.11g driver and I *think* this card can do b/g
[12:48] <Pugio-Other> Xappe sorry, I'm new to debian
[12:48] <Helios_> does it say driver installed / hardware present?
[12:48] <mike998> yep
[12:48] <Xappe> Pugio-Other, add them to your /etc/apt/sources.list ( sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list )
[12:48] <mike998> had to install hoary to get the thing to work
[12:49] <Helios_> then it should work
[12:49] <Helios_> hoarry?
[12:49] <Helios_> ( -r )
[12:49] <zOap_win1> shock. i wonder if it isnt more easy to install ndiswrapper and install the windows driver... but i cant install that either.. if you  could just get me a workthrough i'd apresiate it..
[12:49] <mike998> yeah... i had to install hoary for it to work
[12:49] <zOap_win1> soory, randabis. i mean..
[12:50] <Helios_> Mike998: Can you tell me what Hoary is? I'm getting some trouble with my WLAN card lately
[12:50] <mike998> can you hang on a bit - baby is crying
[12:50] <looksaus> Helios_, hoary is the devel version of ubuntu
[12:50] <randabis> zOap_win1, find the correct linux-headers for your running kernel here
[12:50] <randabis> http://higgs.djpig.de/ubuntu/www/
[12:50] <mpq> okay, I have a different problem now
[12:50] <Helios_> sure
[12:50] <zOap_win1> randabis. ok
[12:50] <randabis> you should also get linux-restricted-modules for your kernel also
 hm... a complete walkthough through what exactly
[12:51] <mpq> the CD works, but I can't get on the internet while I'm in ubuntu
[12:51] <shock> the kernel thing is explained in detail in that howto
[12:51] <Pugio-Other> Xappe - ok I know this is dumb
[12:51] <randabis> the module might already be in restricted modules
[12:51] <Pugio-Other> Xappe but I must have entered these wrong
[12:51] <mpq> I don't know how to get on the internet while I'm on linux
[12:51] <Pugio-Other> Xappe I have "deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/Ubuntu/apt/ binary/"
[12:51] <Pugio-Other> as one line
[12:52] <Xappe> and so it should be
[12:52] <farruinn> does linux kernel work w/ OS X's "unix filesystem"?
[12:52] <mpq> I don't know how to get on the internet in ubuntu
[12:52] <mpq> can anyone help?
[12:52] <Pugio-Other> farruinn I think you can compile support for it
[12:52] <randabis> farruinn, doubt it
[12:52] <looksaus> mpq, it would be useful if you're more specific
[12:52] <Pugio-Other> randabis I remember it being there
[12:52] <zOap_win1> randabis, you have lost me ages ago, i dont know what headers to get... cant you just give me a walkthrough on how installing ndiswrapper?
[12:52] <randabis> since OSX's kernel is closer to bsd
[12:52] <mpq> I don't know how to connect to the internet
[12:52] <looksaus> farruinn, I think there is at least some hfs+ support, yes
[12:52] <mpq> I have a wireless cable router
[12:52] <mpq> I don't know how to set it up in ubuntu
[12:52] <farruinn> looksaus: true
 the module might already be in restricted modules <-- thats what i just figuered
[12:52] <shock> :P
[12:53] <mpq> when I'm on windows it connects at startup
[12:53] <mpq> but I don't know how to set up the connection
[12:53] <randabis> oh, I misunderstood faruinn's question
[12:53] <looksaus> mpq, have you got the possibility to use a wired connection to get started?
[12:53] <Xappe> Pugio-Other, what does it say when you do the apt-get update?
[12:53] <mpq> yeah
[12:53] <randabis> I though he meant is there support for the linux kernel in osx lol
[12:53] <looksaus> that would be a lot easier
[12:53] <daaku> i'm trying to figure out how to get gnome's keyboard shortcuts to see Super_L as a modifier instead of a regular key?
[12:54] <farruinn> randabis: hahah
[12:54] <speel> hey sup .. i have a question is it possible to make a mp3 cd with nautalis like to listen to it in your cd player???
[12:54] <looksaus> maybe you should try to get a wired connection running
[12:54] <farruinn> randabis: that'd just be silly! ;)
[12:54] <randabis> hehe
[12:54] <looksaus> so you can troubleshoot your wireless from within ubuntu
[12:54] <randabis> but yeah, there is some HFS+ support
[12:54] <Xappe> speel, i would try graveman for that
[12:55] <speel> graveman?
[12:55] <Xappe> speel, cd burning app
[12:55] <randabis> zOap_win1, what wireless chipset do you have?
[12:55] <Chazzle> Hello?
[12:55] <randabis> hi
[12:55] <speel> ah ok damn but nautalis does not do it for you?
[12:55] <Xappe> speel, if you want to create an audio cd from mp3
[12:55] <Chazzle> I am looking to install ubuntu this eve.
[12:56] <randabis> good luck
[12:56] <Chazzle> I am relatively new....
[12:56] <Xappe> speel, then I don't think so
[12:56] <randabis> it's pretty easy
[12:56] <speel> hmm ok thanks il probably just install k3b
[12:56] <Chazzle> I have the iso disc.
[12:56] <randabis> okay
[12:56] <Chazzle> when I insert the disc, what do I need to do.
[12:56] <Chazzle> ?
[12:56] <looksaus> Chazzle, boot the computer
[12:56] <randabis> you'll need to set your BIOS to boot from CD
[12:57] <Chazzle> I know that I need to set the BIOS to CD-ROM
[12:57] <thechitowncubs> Ok, I have a problem when trying to run make xconfig, this is what it gives me...   HOSTCC  scripts/basic/fixdep
[12:57] <thechitowncubs> /bin/sh: line 1: gcc: command not found
[12:57] <thechitowncubs> make[1] : *** [scripts/basic/fixdep]  Error 127
[12:57] <thechitowncubs> make: *** [scripts_basic]  Error 2
[12:57] <looksaus> with the... randabis was faster
[12:57] <Xappe> speel, give graveman a try first. think it's in the hoary repos at least (but i'm not sure if warty has it)
[12:57] <randabis> okay
[12:57] <Chazzle> Right...how do I do that .
[12:57] <farruinn> randabis: yeah, some hfs+ - some directories show up as files :D, but I'll deal with that later
[12:57] <thechitowncubs> This is my first time compiling it
[12:57] <Helios_> Anyone know what a good Wiki server would be?
[12:57] <speel> ok thanks
[12:57] <randabis> Chazzle, depends on your BIOS...do you know how to get into it?
[12:57] <WW> farruin: Coming to you from my newly installed monitor... thanks again.
[12:57] <Chazzle> randabis...nope.
[12:58] <terry> I am trying to get wine working in a 32bit chroot and it doesnt want to work
[12:58] <randabis> usually you hit the delete key when the computer starts up, could be F1 or F2 also
[12:58] <looksaus> in 99% of cases, pressing F1 or Del at startup
[12:58] <Chazzle> It is an old machine that was donated to me, and it has Xp
[12:58] <terry> when I try to run wine, I get this error /usr/bin/wine: line 471: 11338 Segmentation fault      $WINEBIN/$WINE_BIN_NAME "$@"
[12:58] <terry> anyone get this problem, and find a resolution for this??
[12:58] <VAXenB1tch> Hello and good day everybody
[12:58] <randabis> do you want to keep XP on it with ubuntu?
[12:58] <terry> my chroot is hoary, and my normal system is hoary
[12:58] <Chazzle> I thank you for this.
[12:58] <VAXenB1tch> is there a channel in this network for VAX/OpenVMS users?
[12:58] <Chazzle> randabis.
[12:59] <VAXenB1tch> :)
[12:59] <randabis> that's my name.
[12:59] <Chazzle> So, if I hit f1 or Del @ startup, I am ready to go?  I was thanking you randabis. :)
[01:00] <looksaus> Chazzle, then you'll probably get into the bios
[01:00] <Chazzle> Allright, looksaus, thank you.
[01:00] <looksaus> where there will be an option called "boot order" or something
[01:00] <Chazzle> k.
[01:00] <looksaus> look at your startup screen, the exact key will probably be mentioned
[01:01] <Chazzle> this is really exciting for me, as I love the idea behind this project.
[01:01] <looksaus> :)
[01:01] <Chazzle> K.
[01:01] <Chazzle> I can't wait to get home!
[01:02] <Helios_> i gtg
[01:02] <Helios_> bye
[01:02] <randabis> Chazzle, yes, you'll need to find something that mentions your boot order in the BIOS. You'll need to change the first boot device to CDROM
[01:03] <Chazzle> Great,
[01:03] <Chazzle> so, make the boot device CDROM, then that will kick it
[01:03] <randabis> then you'll need to save the changes, and exit
[01:04] <Chazzle> thanks randabis and looksaus..
[01:04] <randabis> more than likely your first boot device is currently the cdrom
[01:04] <randabis> err
[01:04] <randabis> floppy
[01:04] <Chazzle> right.
[01:04] <Chazzle> probably so.
[01:04] <Chazzle> it is a bit of an old thing.
[01:04] <randabis> so you can just change it, do your install, and if you want change it back
[01:05] <randabis> are you going to wipe xp from it? :)
[01:05] <Chazzle> YYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS  ;)
[01:05] <randabis> thank god :p
[01:05] <looksaus> :)
[01:05] <randabis> it should be called fisher price OS
[01:05] <Chazzle> I am looking to fix up machines and donate to teen centers around my city.
[01:05] <Chazzle> no doubt randabis.
[01:06] <looksaus> nice idea, Chazzle
[01:06] <randabis> the default theme is ridiculous haha
[01:06] <Chazzle> thanks man.
[01:06] <Chazzle> I know.
[01:06] <looksaus> if you get to explore Linux further, you should really look at things like LTSP then
[01:06] <Chazzle> I am also a mac user, and was appalled at how terribly they copied OS X with XP
[01:06] <Chazzle> LTSP...do tell
[01:07] <thechitowncubs> Please help me
[01:07] <looksaus> recycling old computers as terminals on a central server
[01:07] <looksaus> http://www.ltsp.org
[01:07] <Chazzle> wow...that is a great idea!
[01:07] <looksaus> (will take you some time though, if you're new to Linux)
[01:08] <Chazzle> I will definitely check it out.
[01:08] <Chazzle> thanks...
[01:08] <Telep> all the computers for students at our department use ltsp
[01:08] <Anubis> so mplayer isdead for hoarty?
[01:08] <Telep> well, almost all
[01:09] <looksaus> Telep, I just installed a 30 machine LTSP lab at my former primary school
[01:09] <Telep> :)
[01:09] <Chazzle> That sounds really cool.
[01:09] <Telep> well, we're a CS department :D
[01:10] <looksaus> Telep, me no IT man, me musician
[01:10] <mike998> Helios_:
[01:10] <mike998> Helios_: I am back... sorry about that
[01:10] <Telep> they've provided access to Windows apps using remote desktop and vmware :)
[01:10] <Chazzle> Looksaus,
[01:10] <Chazzle> something else that interests me is music.
[01:11] <looksaus> yes?
[01:11] <Chazzle> are there some good linux music editors out there?
[01:11] <Chazzle> like samplers,
[01:11] <Chazzle> beat machines,
[01:11] <Chazzle> recorders?
[01:11] <looksaus> hm, there's a nice HD recording thing called ardour
[01:11] <Krypt0n> Ooh, good question.. beat machines would be a cool thing to have.
[01:11] <looksaus> (http://www.ardour.org)
[01:11] <uxf> Chazzle: I belive I saw something once on sourgefourge... counldnt tell you what though
[01:11] <Chazzle> cool.
[01:11] <randabis> Chazzle, audacity is good too
[01:11] <looksaus> if you're into music notation, and you're not afraid of a very steep learning curve
[01:12] <Krypt0n> How about something like Fruity Loops? (FLStudio)
[01:12] <looksaus> you might want to check out Lilypond (http://lilypond.org)
[01:12] <Chazzle> Man!
[01:12] <Chazzle> I came to the right place!
[01:12] <randabis> Krypt0n, probably ardour sould be similar
[01:12] <Chazzle> Thanks.
[01:12] <looksaus> VERY good quality output, but difficult to learn
[01:12] <Krypt0n> randabis: Awesome, thanks :)
[01:12] <silva> checking for working aclocal... missing
[01:12] <looksaus> some output examples are at http://www.mutopiaproject.org
[01:12] <silva> im trying instal a prog
[01:12] <Chazzle> I am sooo new to all of this that I don't even know how to save/print this dialogue we have had.
[01:12] <Chazzle> Help?
[01:13] <silva> what i do for install
[01:13] <randabis> silva, you need automake, and autoconf I think
[01:13] <silva> checking for working aclocal... missing
[01:13] <looksaus> silva, what are you trying to install?
[01:13] <silva> so waht i do for install that ones
[01:13] <randabis> sudo apt-get install autoconf automake1.0
[01:13] <randabis> sudo apt-get install autoconf automake1.9
[01:13] <randabis> sorry
[01:13] <silva> i try use the synaptic
[01:14] <randabis> they are in synaptic also
[01:14] <looksaus> damn, I had gotten used to compiling compact monolithic kernels
[01:14] <mpq> okay, I'm on ubuntu now
[01:14] <mpq> but I have no idea what I'm doing
[01:14] <looksaus> building the entire tree, even for one arch is a huge work!
[01:15] <aurax> hello again
[01:15] <zOap_win> i nerandabis, when i try to install ndiswrapper i get error: cant find kernel sources in /lib/modules/2.6.8.1-3/build
[01:15] <looksaus> mpq, this is a small success already, right?
[01:15] <mpq> yes
[01:15] <zOap_win> randabis, look up
[01:15] <looksaus> mpq, wired connection?
[01:15] <mpq> yeah
[01:15] <mpq> ubuntu doesn't seem to support the wireless
[01:16] <looksaus> what kind of wireless is it? pci? usb? pcmcia?
[01:16] <mpq> uhh... I'm not sure
[01:16] <looksaus> (desktop card, usb stick, laptop expansion card)
[01:16] <mpq> I'm on a laptop
[01:16] <Krypt0n> is it built in?
[01:16] <mpq> I think so
[01:16] <Krypt0n> might be minipci
[01:17] <looksaus> Krypt0n, won't he be able to see more info with lspci or some frontend to that?
[01:17] <zOap_win> looksaus, maybe you can help me. when itry to install ndiswrapper i get this error: cant find kernel sources in /lib/modules/2.6.1-3/build... what do i need to do?
[01:17] <mpq> there's a light on the front that's on when the wireless is on
[01:17] <mpq> and a button
[01:17] <Krypt0n> looksaus: Possibly, I'm a bit of a n00b myself actually, but I assume so :)
[01:18] <mpq> the card won't turn on in ubuntu
[01:18] <mpq> so I'm stuck on a wired connection
[01:18] <mpq> until I figure this out
[01:18] <looksaus> zOap_win, not much experience with ndiswrapper, but that kernel version looks strange to me
[01:18] <Krypt0n> What model laptop is it?
[01:18] <mpq> hp pavilion
[01:18] <zOap_win> looksaus, ubuntu wharty...
[01:18] <Krypt0n> got a specific model number?
[01:18] <mpq> ze4900
[01:19] <zOap_win> looksaus, its 2.6.8.1-3...
[01:19] <looksaus> mpq, open a terminal and use lspci -vv
[01:19] <looksaus> ah, k
[01:19] <zOap_win> looksaus, do i need to add something somewhre..?
[01:19] <looksaus> mpq, you might want to do that as root
[01:19] <djk> zOap_win
[01:19] <djk> install linux-headers
[01:19] <Krypt0n> mpq: http://www.geocities.com/clsdaniel/ze4900.html
[01:19] <Krypt0n> Try that :)
[01:19] <djk> for your kernel
[01:20] <djk> that'll fix it
[01:20] <looksaus> I have no experience using ndiswrappers, but I ... djk was faster than me
[01:20] <zOap_win> djk, ok. but i dont have a internet connection on that machine...
[01:20] <djk> well uh
[01:20] <djk> do you have a cd writer?
[01:20] <djk> in your PC?
[01:20] <zOap_win> yes, but i dont know what headers to isntall
[01:20] <looksaus> mpq, what does lspci say?
[01:20] <djk> 2.6.8.1-3 is your kernel?
[01:20] <mpq> hang on
[01:20] <djk> if so, download the headers for that
[01:20] <zOap_win> djk, yes
[01:21] <zOap_win> djk, where do i find it?
[01:21] <mpq> I'm still new to opening windows
[01:21] <djk> wait
[01:21] <zOap_win> and how do i install it?
[01:21] <Chazzle> youse are all busy...thank you again for the tremendous amount of help.
[01:21] <Chazzle> I am out.
[01:21] <looksaus> Chazzle, see you!
[01:22] <Chazzle> I WILL BE BACK!
[01:22] <looksaus> :)-
[01:22] <mpq> different question: is there a way to run .exe files in linux?
[01:22] <mpq> it's kind of annoying that I can't use any of my programs right now
[01:22] <zOap_win> mpq, wine
[01:22] <mpq> where do I get that?
[01:23] <zOap_win> apt-get install wine
[01:23] <looksaus> mpq, there are really good functional equivalents for about everything
[01:23] <housetier> if they are .net binaries, mono might be able to execute .exe files
[01:23] <looksaus> you really want to try these out first
[01:23] <mpq> ...
[01:23] <mpq> I am so in over my head
[01:23] <looksaus> native programs are always a LOT better integrated
[01:24] <looksaus> mpq, is there anything in particular you miss?
[01:24] <silva> Format: 1.0
[01:24] <silva> Source: automake1.9
[01:24] <silva> Version: 1.9.4-1
[01:24] <mpq> I'll think of something
[01:24] <silva>  sudo apt-get install automake1.9
[01:24] <mpq> I have a japanese dictionary
[01:24] <silva> and
[01:24] <mpq> and a lot of games
[01:25] <silva> : Couldn't find package automake1.9
[01:25] <looksaus> ok, the easier & older games and the dictionary might work
[01:25] <looksaus> with wine
[01:25] <mpq> where do I get it?
[01:25] <looksaus> but don't hold your breath, it's always a bit risky
[01:25] <looksaus> mpq, I'd have to look... don't use it myself
[01:25] <mpq> emulators always are
[01:26] <looksaus> http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb
[01:26] <looksaus> mpq, google is your friend...
[01:27] <silva> can some one help me
[01:27] <WW> wine is available in the Ubuntu universe repository.
[01:27] <looksaus> oh, nice
[01:27] <WW> You can install wine with Synaptic.
[01:27] <looksaus> silva, could you please repeat what you are trying to do?
[01:27] <randabis> zOap_win, http://higgs.djpig.de/cgi-ubuntu/search_packages.pl?keywords=linux-headers&searchon=names&subword=1&version=warty&release=all
[01:28] <mpq> I am so confused
[01:28] <looksaus> mpq, So was Columbus when he discovered America
[01:28] <mpq> lol
[01:29] <mpq> Columbus didn't use computers
[01:29] <bitfoo> i found a sweet personal finance program today to replace ms money :D
[01:29] <Anubis> rhythmbox is dead for me in Hoarty after last update, and now xmms works again
[01:29] <looksaus> ... but he did think he was in India...
[01:29] <moquist> bitfoo: what program?
[01:29] <bitfoo> moneydance
[01:29] <mpq> I don't even know how to partition
[01:30] <bitfoo> its way better than gnucash  imho
[01:30] <looksaus> mpq, you did install ubuntu, right? so you did partition...
[01:30] <mpq> I'm running a live cd
[01:30] <looksaus> oh...
[01:30] <mpq> I wanted to try it out before installing
[01:31] <looksaus> good idea
[01:31] <arj> hi
[01:31] <shock> bitfoo?
[01:31] <mpq> I didn't want to make big changes to my computer before even trying it out
[01:31] <bitfoo> shock?
[01:31] <shock> wger did u find tat?
[01:31] <shock> where?
[01:31] <bitfoo> i forget
[01:31] <shock> lol
[01:31] <shock> narf.
[01:31] <bitfoo> but the address is www.moneydance.com
[01:32] <shock> ah ok
[01:32] <shock> thx
[01:33] <looksaus> mpq, could you execute the following command
[01:33] <looksaus> open a root terminal
[01:33] <mpq> I did that
[01:33] <mpq> what do I do?
[01:33] <looksaus> lspci -vv|grep oadcom
[01:33] <looksaus> this gives a raw hardware list
[01:33] <looksaus> and looks through it for the string "oadcom"
[01:34] <mpq> 0000:02:06.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM94306 802.11g (rev 03)
[01:34] <looksaus> ok, that's your wireless, now we're sure
[01:34] <mpq> how do I turn it on?
 -- is the linux-version any good? qt? gtk+?
[01:34] <shock> it the trial interesting?
[01:34] <mpq> when I'm in windows I can just press a button on the front
[01:34] <looksaus> mpq, the problem with this wireless thing is you'll have to fiddle a little
[01:35] <mpq> the button doesn't do anything now
[01:35] <looksaus> broadcom is famous for not releasing even the most basic info on their wireless chips
[01:35] <mpq> thanks, I already knew my laptop sucked
[01:35] <looksaus> not all is lost, though
[01:35] <looksaus> there is ndiswrapper
[01:36] <looksaus> but I have little experience with that
[01:36] <arj> does ubuntu work with USB modem?
[01:36] <looksaus> mpq, it will probably be difficult to get that one to work from a live CD
[01:36] <looksaus> I could be wrong though
[01:36] <shock> is there a gtk+ gui vor vlc ?
[01:36] <HrdwrBoB> yes
[01:36] <looksaus> arj, depends...
[01:36] <HrdwrBoB> it's terrible
[01:36] <mpq> yeah, probably
[01:36] <HrdwrBoB> but yes
[01:37] <arj> i tried mandrake 9.2 last year
[01:37] <mpq> I'm going to install it later
[01:37] <arj> but it didnt' work with mine
[01:37] <mpq> I just wanted to see it and try it out
[01:37] <bitfoo> yeah try the trial shock
[01:37] <randabis> jdub, are you around?
[01:37] <looksaus> mpq, it certainly is possible and not too difficult from a HD install though
[01:37] <mpq> which was why I was using the live cd
[01:37] <bitfoo> shock:http://www.linuxlinks.com/Software/Financial/
[01:37] <bitfoo> i find more :O
[01:37] <looksaus> arj, DSL modem? POTS modem?
[01:38] <arj> dsl
[01:38] <mpq> different problem: the mouse is too sensitive
[01:38] <arj> ipm datacom
[01:38] <jdub> randabis: yes
[01:38] <shock> thx bitfoo
[01:38] <randabis> ah
[01:38] <randabis> okay
[01:38] <mpq> when I move the mouse a tiny bit the cursor goes too fast
[01:38] <looksaus> arj, do yourself a favour and buy an ethernet model
[01:38] <randabis> in hoary, boot-admin seems to be missing
[01:38] <arj> I'd like
[01:38] <mpq> how do I change the sensitivity in ubuntu?
[01:38] <randabis> I think it was a part of gnome-system-tools
[01:38] <looksaus> will be a lot easier, no matter what platform
[01:38] <arj> to make wireless LAn
[01:38] <randabis> it was the app that let you edit menu.lst in a graphical menu
[01:39] <arj> but I'd start to work onlinux by now
[01:39] <arj> and without internet connection there's very few things i can do
[01:40] <randabis> what I was wondering is, if this app would return
[01:40] <randabis> or if it was renamed
[01:41] <randabis> there's no icon for it to be found if it still exists, and I can't find it in /usr/bin either
[01:42] <arj> anyway
[01:42] <shock> urks.. i hope there is a jre comming with it
[01:42] <arj> thanks for the efforts
[01:42] <arj> bye
[01:43] <bitfoo> i'd like to ask a non-ubuntu question...
[01:43] <bitfoo> where can i buy a small table?
[01:43] <bitfoo> :|
[01:43] <shock> IKEA?
[01:43] <mpq> I just realized I'd have to reinstall all my firefox extensions
[01:43] <bitfoo> ikea is super far :(
[01:44] <looksaus> mpq, you mean if starting ubuntu from the live CD?
[01:44] <randabis> you get all that jdub? I can file a bug if need be
 desktop->preferences->mouse ?
[01:44] <mpq> I had firefox in windows
[01:44] <mpq> the windows version of firefox doesn't work in linux
[01:44] <shock> i use epiphany and im happy with that browser :P
[01:45] <bitfoo> you know the firefox extensions work in linux too right?
[01:46] <mpq> it was more all my bookmarks
[01:46] <mpq> will it import my settings from the windows version?
[01:46] <bitfoo> just export them
[01:46] <bitfoo> and save them on a disk or on the web and then import them :|
[01:49] <shock> damn... how do i tell vlc to use the gtk interface?
[01:49] <netdur> (00:47:05) j*****i: I mean life is fucked up, I'm not able to download my ubuntu wallpaper for my nokia phone!
[01:49] <bitfoo> the poop brown wallpaper?
[01:49] <netdur> what I should tell him?
[01:50] <netdur> kinda I'm doing ubuntu support over IM
[01:50] <looksaus> :)
[01:50] <randabis> he LIKES the poopy paper?
[01:50] <randabis> haha
[01:51] <looksaus> if not, he could always use GIMP to make another wallpaper
[01:51] <looksaus> oh, no, wait, GIMP's for toilet paper...
[01:51] <netdur> LOL
[01:52] <liquid_> hi
[01:52] <liquid_> how can I change the screen refreshrate in X?
[01:53] <looksaus> liquid_, zo in het gat van de nacht kom jij achter verversingsfrequentie vragen :p
[01:53] <liquid_> I can't using some xtool .. I know my CRT monitor allows more the 85Hz @ 1280 x 1024
[01:53] <aurax> i have a question, is there a way to image my system to a with a cdrw/dvdrw and duplicate my system to other boxes from it like with some kind of executed boot
[01:53] <liquid_> hello looksaus
[01:53] <liquid_> =)
[01:53] <aurax> like install the copy from the cd to the harddrive
[01:53] <liquid_> yeah in the middle of the night :/
[01:53] <aurax> installer*
[01:53] <looksaus> liquid_, Desktop -> Administration -> Screen resolution
[01:54] <looksaus> oh, hm, I'm on hoary, so maybe somewhere else in the menus
[01:54] <liquid_> looksaus, well I figured that part out except that I can't go higher then 60Hz @ 1280 x 1028
[01:54] <liquid_> My eyes start to hurt and tears all over the place
[01:55] <looksaus> liquid_, you could go into your config file manually
[01:55] <randabis> Computer-->System Configuration-->Screen resolution I think for warty
[01:55] <mpq> how do I access a USB flash drive?
[01:55] <looksaus> mpq, plug it in?
[01:55] <mpq> I did
[01:55] <mpq> it didn't recognize it or something
[01:56] <liquid_> randabis yes I did that and that's what I told looksaus.. but what about the confige file? you mean the configfile /etc/X11/XF86... ? sorry I'm new to X never used X before always console
[01:56] <repete> mpq: `sudo tail -f /var/log/messages`
[01:56] <looksaus> liquid_, warty uses Xfree, right? or Xorg?
[01:56] <repete> mpq: see what the kernel says
[01:56] <looksaus> mpq, or tail dmesg
[01:56] <liquid_> looksaus, as far as I know it's XFree86
[01:57] <liquid_> hey shouldn't he be mounting the flash device?
[01:57] <looksaus> /etc/X11/XF86Config , then?
[01:57] <liquid_> n/m I'm console junkie :P
[01:57] <randabis> liquid_, /etc/X11/XF86Config-4
[01:57] <mpq> liquid, how do I do that?
[01:57] <looksaus> sorry liquid
[01:57] <repete> in hoary it is taken care of by hal/dbus
[01:57] <randabis> but you need to know what to edit
[01:57] <looksaus> mpq, open a terminal and type that
[01:57] <sycat> Hello, any network gurus in here ?
[01:57] <mpq> it says there's no directory
[01:58] <aurax> damn why every app on gnome asking for root password even when i logged in as root
[01:58] <randabis> uh, you logged in as root?
[01:58] <aurax> yeh
[01:58] <randabis> WHY?
[01:58] <repete> mpq: you can try `sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/usbkey` provided /mnt/usbkey exists
[01:58] <aurax> cuz im root
[01:58] <looksaus> oh, sorry... distracted
[01:58] <aurax> no?
[01:58] <aurax> lol
[01:58] <aurax> doesnt matter
[01:58] <aurax> i have this issue with gnome on ubuntu
[01:58] <mpq> it doesn't exist
[01:59] <randabis> you know you're really risking the bank going on the net as root...
[01:59] <repete> mpq: which doesn't exist?
[01:59] <mpq> the mount
[01:59] <aurax> even when im logged in as my user it asks for passwords and dont load
[01:59] <aurax> dont load i mean for certein application
[01:59] <liquid_> okay I'm editting the config file but how do I know the horizontal and vertical refreshrate? I just want 85Hz @ 1280 x 1024
[01:59] <randabis> probably because it wants your user password not root's password
[01:59] <aurax> its the same
[02:00] <repete> mpq: if /mnt/usbkey doesn't exist use `sudo mkdir -p /mnt/usbkey`
[02:00] <randabis> root shouldn't even be enabled in the first place...not reason for him to be
[02:00] <mebaran151> identify ginger
[02:00] <mebaran151> sorry
[02:00] <mebaran151> whoopsees
[02:00] <mebaran151> heheh
[02:00] <repete> mpq: if /dev/sda1 doesn't exist that means the kernel is using some other device
[02:00] <mebaran151> now I need to change my passwd
[02:00] <mebaran151> damn
[02:00] <liquid_> hi this is in the config file:
[02:00] <mebaran151> I hate Nickserv
[02:00] <mebaran151> ok
[02:00] <liquid_>         Identifier      "Generic Monitor"
[02:00] <liquid_>         HorizSync       30-65
[02:00] <liquid_>         VertRefresh     50-75
[02:00] <repete> mpq: in which case you need to check dmesg
[02:01] <randabis> that's what you need to change
[02:01] <randabis> you need it to match the HS and VR rates of your monitor
[02:01] <liquid_> randabis me?
[02:01] <mebaran151> at least it was just a silly nickserv password
[02:01] <randabis> yes
[02:01] <liquid_> randabis how do I find that out?
[02:01] <randabis> your monitor's documention
[02:02] <liquid_> ohw chips! I don't have those :/
[02:02] <liquid_> I'll google it
[02:02] <liquid_> thanks
[02:02] <randabis> jdub?
[02:03] <mpq> I think I'm going to try actually installing it this time
[02:03] <jdub> randabis: yes
[02:03] <randabis> you get the messages I sent about boot-admin?
[02:03] <randabis> I sent in channel, not pm
[02:03] <bascule> hello
[02:04] <liquid_> okay randabis I found it out but here they are and still very confusing
[02:04] <wk1989> Hi ppl!
[02:04] <wk1989> I need ur help with a problem
[02:04] <liquid_> Horizontal Frequency  	30 to 96kHz
[02:04] <liquid_> Vertical Frequency 	50 to 160Hz
[02:04] <wk1989> pls listen
[02:04] <liquid_> wk1989,  we can't! we can only read what you type :P
[02:04] <jdub> randabis: nick highlight helps, this is a busy channel :)
[02:04] <wk1989> I want to give 5 more gigs to my Ubuntu partition from my Windows drive
[02:05] <randabis> jdub sorry!
[02:05] <wk1989> *windows partition
[02:05] <randabis> jdub in hoary, boot-admin seems to be missing
[02:05] <bascule> wk1989: ap-get install qt-parted
[02:05] <wk1989> I'm thinking of using Partition Magic to resize the Ubuntu partition
[02:05] <bascule> wk1989: ap-get install qtparted
[02:05] <bascule> one of them
[02:05] <liquid_> wk1989, use some windows partitioning software such as partition magic and mount it in ubuntu
[02:05] <randabis> jdub I think it was a part of gnome-system-tools
[02:05] <repete> jdub: This is Pete Goodall
[02:05] <wk1989> bascule : does it resize partition though? I don't want to loose ANY data!
[02:05] <randabis> jdub it was the app that let you edit menu.lst in a graphical menu
[02:05] <repete> jdub: we met at GUADEC last year
[02:06] <bascule> wk1989: yes it does all that stuff
[02:06] <wk1989> bascule : And it keeps the DATA?
[02:06] <wk1989> thx
[02:06] <wk1989> that's wonderful!
[02:06] <liquid_> wk1989,  that's why you need to use some windows partitioning program because you might know what you're doing. Repartitioning a live partition is always dangerous
[02:06] <repete> jdub: just wondering if you would be at LWE next week
[02:06] <bascule> yes, it should, but you knowhow these things are ...
[02:06] <randabis> jdub what I was wondering is, if this app would return
[02:07] <wk1989> ok
[02:07] <liquid_> randabis did you read what I pasted? or missed it?
[02:07] <wk1989> But after I resize the Ubuntu partition, is it gonna automatically realize that change in size?
[02:07] <jdub> repete: cool
[02:07] <jdub> repete: no, won't be :)
[02:07] <liquid_> wk1989,  yeah it should :)
[02:07] <repete> bummer :-/
[02:07] <wk1989> Or do I have to do something, like to refresh it?
[02:07] <wk1989> ok
[02:07] <randabis> jdub there's no icon for it to be found and it can't be found in /usr/bin
[02:07] <jdub> repete: you may see mako there, however
[02:07] <wk1989> thx liquid!
[02:07] <liquid_> yw
[02:07] <jdub> randabis: we don't support boot-admin, didn't ship it in warty
[02:08] <repete> jdub: don't think I have met him/her before
[02:08] <randabis> jdub, well there was a program that would edit grub's config in the gnome config menu
[02:08] <randabis> it used to be there, and it's not anymore
[02:09] <randabis> it was in Desktop --> Administration I believe
[02:09] <jdub> randabis: it was available for a time in hoary before we disabled it again
[02:09] <randabis> ah
[02:09] <liquid_> uhm okay guys a simpel question: I have the specs of the Horizontal and vertical refresh rate of my monitor. but it has a range between. What must I set in the config file? the max Horizontal and max verticalrate? or should I make a choice at some resolution?
[02:09] <randabis> is there any chance of getting it back? I'm asking this for a friend
[02:09] <jdub> no, we don't support it
[02:10] <randabis> okay
[02:10] <MobyTurbo> liquid_, use a dash between the minimum and maximum, assuming that it's multisync.
[02:10] <randabis> is there something wrong with it or something? just curious
[02:10] <liquid_> thanks
[02:10] <liquid_> brb
[02:11] <jdub> randabis: yes, it tends to break, but also, it is not the right design for normal use cases
[02:12] <randabis> jdub, ah okay. thanks for letting me know so I didn't go and file a useless bug report about it :p
[02:14] <Tr0gd0r> i did apt-get install vncserver how do i run the server now?
[02:14] <randabis> why don't you just use vino? gnome's built-in vnc server?
[02:15] <Tr0gd0r> not using gnome
[02:15] <Tr0gd0r> heh
[02:15] <randabis> ah
[02:15] <randabis> well, might wanna use x11vnc instead of vncserver
[02:15] <Tr0gd0r> main problem is i have a huge box on the screen, i need to click next
[02:15] <Tr0gd0r> and the resolution is at 640
[02:15] <Tr0gd0r> so i cant see next
[02:16] <Tr0gd0r> and its connected to a tv
[02:16] <Tr0gd0r> lol
[02:16] <randabis> tab to it maybe
[02:16] <Tr0gd0r> no keyboard
[02:16] <Tr0gd0r> its really an xbox
[02:16] <Tr0gd0r> heh
[02:17] <randabis> dunno
[02:17] <mpq> I'm downloading the install cd iso now
[02:18] <Grendel|>   ~+
[02:18] <ubhuti> Grendel|: No idea
[02:18] <hybrid> if i grab the hoary iso and upgrade will it keep evrything i already got installed?
[02:19] <Grendel|> I dropped the keyboard =P
[02:19] <randabis> hybrid, you don't use an iso to upgrade an existing system
[02:19] <randabis> you use apt
[02:19] <hybrid> randabis : ok what is the argument for apt?
[02:20] <Grendel|> can sombody tell me how to fix the following?
[02:20] <randabis> hybrid http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GuideToHoary
[02:20] <Grendel|> cli_negprot: SMB signing is mandatory and we have disabled it.
[02:20] <Grendel|> 23785: protocol negotiation failed
[02:20] <Grendel|> SMB connection failed
[02:20] <hybrid> thnx
[02:21] <Cindux> hm
[02:21] <Cindux> im new to linux & commands & just wondering
[02:21] <mpq> I know the USB drive works on linux
[02:22] <Cindux> what the command "cd" stands for ?
[02:22] <Cindux> if it has an actual meaning
[02:22] <Cindux> other than of course, compact disc
[02:22] <hybrid> change dir
[02:22] <Cindux> oh
[02:22] <Cindux> :P
[02:22] <Cindux> ty
[02:22] <hybrid> lol
[02:22] <hybrid> np
[02:22] <Cindux> yes that should have been self expl = /
[02:22] <Cindux> especially when the dir moved..
[02:22] <Cindux> cough
[02:22] <hybrid> glade i could help sum1 instead of b helped
[02:22] <Grendel|> considering what it does
[02:22] <Cindux> grendel = /
[02:23] <MobyTurbo> Cindux, "cd" is even a command in MS-DOS and the equivalent Windows window.
[02:23] <Cindux> familiar
[02:23] <Cindux> oh ic
[02:23] <Cindux> i dont like windows :
[02:23] <hybrid> can mean check dir
[02:23] <mpq> I don't like windows either
[02:23] <hybrid> lol who does?
[02:23] <MobyTurbo> me neither, and DOS has a very crippled command line.
[02:23] <Grendel|> me
[02:23] <Cindux> lol
[02:23] <Grendel|> more or less
[02:23] <Cindux> yes
[02:23] <Cindux> did you by chance
[02:23] <Cindux> go to a forum called "g2x" ?
[02:23] <Grendel|> for it's simplicity and keeping users happy
[02:24] <mpq> I don't like windows, which is why I wanted to try out linux in the first place
[02:24] <hybrid> mpq : me too
[02:24] <Cindux> = /
[02:24] <surrounder> can imagine mpq :)
[02:24] <Cindux> Linux sounds coola to :d
[02:24] <MobyTurbo> I tried out Linux kernel 0.95 when I wanted a free Unix, after having experienced a Unix shell, so I'm a bit of an old hand at this.
[02:24] <Cindux> who wants to say im running Windows
[02:24] <Cindux> when you could say im running linux
[02:24] <Cindux> :P
[02:24] <Grendel|> well..
[02:25] <hybrid> mpq : i went from me to xp to osx then ubuntu
[02:25] <Grendel|> I'm running both
[02:25] <Cindux> hm
[02:25] <Grendel|> 2k3 server, XP and Ubuntu
[02:25] <Cindux> osx = built off unix
[02:25] <Cindux> so woo!
[02:25] <Grendel|> anyway..
[02:25] <surrounder> puuh wish I had the money for an mac
[02:25] <MobyTurbo> hybrid, are you running Linux PPC?
[02:25] <hybrid> MobyTurbo : yup
[02:25] <Grendel|> I need to connect to a share on the LAN using login/password, and ubuntu won't let me
[02:25] <Cindux> lol woah
[02:26] <MobyTurbo> that's cool. :-)
[02:26] <Cindux> theirs a command called finger
[02:26] <Cindux> lol
[02:26] <Grendel|> somebody know what to do+
[02:26] <Grendel|> ?
[02:26] <hybrid> Cindux : it is a sucky unix crippled like dos
[02:26] <surrounder> Grendel|: did you read ubuntuguide.org ?
[02:26] <Cindux> ah bla
[02:26] <surrounder> Grendel|: lots of handy info there about samba
[02:26] <Cindux> I wish I had Ubuntu right now
[02:26] <Grendel|> I've tried it before
[02:26] <Cindux> but long story short I've been running a p3 600mhz / 128mb ram pc with 4mb memory
[02:26] <hybrid> Cindux : y u dont
[02:27] <Grendel|> think I have the command right, but I get an error message
[02:27] <Cindux> that lagged on the screensavers...
[02:27] <hybrid> lol
[02:27] <Cindux> it did
[02:27] <Grendel|> cli_negprot: SMB signing is mandatory and we have disabled it.
[02:27] <Grendel|> 23785: protocol negotiation failed
[02:27] <Grendel|> SMB connection failed
[02:27] <Cindux> im not joking
[02:27] <Cindux> my fps could go down to 5
[02:27] <surrounder> Cindux: would work just ok wouldn't it ?
[02:27] <Cindux> anyway I took the hdd / cd rom drive out & am waiting for my barebone :P
[02:27] <Cindux> wel no..
[02:27] <Grendel|> if anyone could tell me how to fix it...
[02:28] <surrounder> Cindux: I've installed archlinux on my gf's pc, p3 600 Mhz with 64 MB RAM, runs quite nicely :)
[02:28] <MobyTurbo> Cindux, you can remove the 3D screen savers by removing the xscreensaver-gl package.
[02:28] <surrounder> Cindux: enlightenment and/or fluxbox and you're done :)
[02:28] <Cindux> im not saying ubuntu didnt run well
[02:28] <Cindux> it ran quite fast for that pc actually
[02:28] <Cindux> its just that the pc itself had problems
[02:28] <surrounder> aaah okay, that's nasty indeed
[02:28] <Cindux> not "sure" though
[02:29] <Cindux> I tried running starcraft on it & it more than meets the minimum req
[02:29] <Cindux> even then single player lagged
[02:29] <timothy> can someone help me get .mov files working as a browser plugin in ubuntu?
[02:29] <Cindux> no internet connection
[02:29] <hybrid> d00d if internet == 0 then how you on here
[02:30] <MobyTurbo> timothy, check out RestrictedFormats on the wiki
[02:30] <Cindux> no
[02:30] <Cindux> I ran it OFF the internet
[02:30] <Cindux> purposely to make sure i was lagging because of a connection problem
[02:30] <Cindux> the problem still existed
[02:30] <hybrid> oo ok
[02:30] <Tr0gd0r> when i install jre, where am i supposed to put it
[02:30] <Cindux> :(
[02:30] <hybrid> i thot u were saying u had not internet
[02:30] <hybrid> lol
[02:30] <Tr0gd0r> which folder does it go under
[02:30] <Cindux> lol bla
[02:30] <Tr0gd0r> i have it in my /home and i know it goes somewhere else
[02:31] <Cindux> im so excited to run Ubuntu on a decent PC :D
[02:31] <hybrid> life today would be impossible w/out the internet or another info highway this big
[02:31] <MobyTurbo> Tr0gd0r, /usr/local is a decent place. Or use java-package to make a deb out of it.
[02:31] <Cindux> probably lol
[02:31] <Tr0gd0r> well i did exactly what it said to ln the file in my home for firefox
[02:32] <Tr0gd0r> but java still doesnt work
[02:32] <Grendel|> surrounder: I tried what it said in the guide. didn't work
[02:32] <Cindux> we'd have some other form of fast file transfer across the world
[02:32] <Cindux> like mailing floppies in high performance jets
[02:32] <surrounder> Grendel|: hmmm can't help you any further then...sorry :(
[02:32] <MobyTurbo> Tr0gd0r, the deb automatically installs it. By the way, you need to run "ln -s" not just ln.
[02:32] <Tr0gd0r> ya i did
[02:32] <Tr0gd0r> hmm how do i deb?
[02:32] <Tr0gd0r> make a deb
[02:33] <Grendel|> surrounder: I believe it is that it doesn't allow passwords and such to be used.
[02:33] <surrounder> Grendel|: it should...
[02:33] <Grendel|> it says that samba signing have been disabled
[02:33] <Grendel|> so it seems that I need to enable it
[02:33] <MobyTurbo> Tr0gd0r, the instructions are too much for IRC, check out the wiki.
[02:33] <Tr0gd0r> omg i wish it just worked
[02:33] <Tr0gd0r> i ln -s and nothing
[02:34] <Cindux> stupid question, but what does dev mean exactly
[02:34] <Grendel|> surrounder: the error I get is: cli_negprot: SMB signing is mandatory and we have disabled it.
[02:34] <Tr0gd0r> device?
[02:34] <Grendel|> 23785: protocol negotiation failed
[02:34] <MobyTurbo> Cindux, device
[02:34] <Grendel|> SMB connection failed
[02:34] <Cindux> bla
[02:34] <Cindux> lol
[02:34] <Cindux> ty
[02:34] <Cindux> so this "mount/device/hda1"
[02:34] <surrounder> Grendel|: isn't that an error or the other side of the connection?
[02:34] <Cindux> means to mount this specific device :d
[02:34] <surrounder> Grendel|: just guessing here cause I'm no expert on samba...
[02:35] <surrounder> Grendel|: trying to get it to work here too ;)
[02:35] <Orcrist> anyone here isntalled gdesklets on warty from the .debs?
[02:35] <Grendel|> well.. I doubt it
[02:35] <terry> okay has anyone attempted to run a game in fullscreen mode under wine and Ubuntu Hoary, I am trying to isolate where the problem is.  When I run the game, the gnome-panel stays on the screen and resizes to fit the new resolution
[02:35] <Grendel|> since it mentions something disabled in smb
[02:39] <Tr0gd0r> omg i was typing obj instead of oji
[02:39] <randabis> Orcrist, I did when I used warty
[02:40] <MobyTurbo> Tr0gd0r, glad you solved your problem. :-)
[02:40] <randabis> Orcrist, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3012
[02:40] <Orcrist> randabis, did you have any issues with python? when I run gdesklets I get a deprecation warning a couple of functions then it exits
[02:40] <Orcrist> ahh thanks
[02:46] <hybrid> how can i edit etc/apt/source.list
[02:46] <hybrid> gedit says i cant cus it is read only
[02:47] <randabis> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:47] <hybrid> ok thnx
[02:51] <Cindux> can you use the "rm" command to remove a DIR with multiple DIRS / fles in it ?
[02:51] <shock> rm -r dirname
[02:51] <Cindux> er what that mean ?
[02:51] <Cindux> remove r?
[02:52] <shock> -r stands for recursively
[02:52] <Cindux> er
[02:52] <shock> u delete dirname with everything in it including dirname
[02:52] <Cindux> so it wouldnt start out rmdir dirname
[02:53] <shock> if you want to delete .themes with all themes in it (example) type "rm -r .themes"
[02:53] <shock> thats how i undersood your question
[02:54] <mako> repete: yes.. i'm planning on showing up to lwce
[02:55] <shock> hm... i need to figure out how to set disk/traffic quotas
[02:55] <shock> :/
[02:55] <repete> mako: on your own or with work?
[02:55] <randabis> rm -rf foo
[02:56] <Cindux> is it illegal to run livecds at school ?
[02:56] <Cindux> if it was connected to your school work
[02:56] <Cindux> ..
[02:56] <Cindux> lol
[02:56] <shock> ?
[02:56] <randabis> depends on school policy
[02:56] <shock> usually not
[02:56] <Cindux> hm
[02:56] <josh_> anyone here play alot of online games?
[02:56] <shock> but livecds might enable students to perform things they are not allowed to
 ... used to
[02:57] <Cindux> in the shell do you have to include the entire path for DIR's ?
[02:57] <GFXstyLER> lol,  my ubuntu somehow mutated to debian, everything is changed
[02:57] <shock> the entire relative or total path @ <Cindux>
[02:58] <liquid_> hello I'm trying to setup the flash plug-in with firefox. It seems to be installed but why won't it work?
[02:58] <josh_> shock: well did you use a program called all seeing eye or pathfinder?
[02:58] <liquid_> Linux acronis 2.6.8.1-3-amd64-generic #1 Tue Oct 12 11:40:38 UTC 2004 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[02:58] <shock> no
[02:58] <josh_> shock: oh
[02:58] <shock> josh_: jo
[02:58] <shock> ;)
[02:59] <josh_> lol
[02:59] <Cindux> woah
[02:59] <Cindux> the shell is cool
[02:59] <shock> ;)
[03:00] <Cindux> but to much to learn >.<
[03:00] <Cindux> and then shell scripting ><
[03:00] <shock> hrhr
[03:00] <shock> the shell is probably the most powerfull userinterface ever
[03:00] <Cindux> any particular reason for it being the "shell"
[03:01] <Cindux> ex. Linus  = Linux because its his name
[03:01] <Cindux> ??? = Shell because
[03:01] <hybrid> shell is the outerside
[03:01] <hybrid> ie nut in a shell
[03:02] <hybrid> cli covered by a shell
[03:02] <Cindux> these stupid answers lol
[03:02] <Cindux> i keep thinking its some very complex anser
[03:02] <Cindux> & it's always the obvious
[03:02] <hybrid> lol
[03:03] <Xappe> Gatex
[03:03] <hybrid> computers arent hard
[03:03] <hybrid> 0 off 1 on
[03:03] <hybrid> all u need to kno
[03:03] <aurax> hello
[03:03] <EvanCarroll> ok poll who likes melazyboy.no-ip.com I'm not a web designer but I was able to come up with that, any problems with colors or format?
[03:04] <Linforcer> does anyone here have experience with webcams in Linux?
[03:04] <avsn> looking for a quick peace of advice here, how do I get the Live CD Ubuntu to print?
[03:04] <Cindux> tried to the print command
[03:04] <Cindux> :d
[03:05] <aurax> is there a netscape package for ubuntu
[03:05] <aurax> or can i install the rpm for linux
[03:05] <Cindux> print filename
[03:05] <aurax> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[03:05] <aurax> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[03:05] <aurax> hrr
[03:05] <avsn> i'll try those idees thx
[03:06] <Linforcer> I guess that's a no
[03:07] <Cindux> their are probably tons
[03:07] <Cindux> considering their are several APPS made for web cam conferening
[03:07] <Cindux> its just that 90
[03:07] <aurax> is there a way to speed up a little win32 apps under wine ?
[03:07] <hybrid> aurax : mozilla and firefox ~= netscape
[03:07] <Cindux> 90% of the people in this channel dont speak
[03:07] <aurax> hybrid yeah
[03:07] <aurax> i know
[03:07] <hybrid> Cindux : do u use much irc help channel
[03:08] <Cindux> uhh nope
[03:08] <hybrid> arux: then why do you want netscape?
[03:08] <Cindux> I only use irc for Ubuntu
[03:08] <hybrid> Cindux : u juss sit here waiting for ur specialty and shut up wen the oldies speek lol
[03:08] <Cindux> I've had to many questions about commands etc so ive just found a website witha list of basic commands etc
[03:08] <Cindux> if i have a question ill try to answer it myself
[03:08] <hybrid> lol
[03:08] <Cindux> before bothering you again :d
[03:09] <hybrid> i dont mind
[03:09] <Cindux> lol meh i do
[03:09] <Cindux> if i were you id tell me to shut up
[03:09] <Cindux> or give them a link & ignore them
[03:09] <aurax> i need netscape to test something
[03:09] <aurax> i have few issues with unicodes
[03:09] <aurax> in ubuntu
[03:09] <hybrid> i always ask questions so answering is like giving back
[03:09] <Cindux> lol :
[03:09] <hybrid> lol
[03:10] <Cindux> the only thing i know at all is web design
[03:10] <Cindux> im teh uber genious
[03:10] <hybrid> aurax : try apt-cache to search for it
[03:10] <aurax> i found it
[03:10] <hybrid> lol
[03:10] <bluefoxicy> why is open source software on some kind of sugar high
[03:10] <aurax> im getting the installer
 5 new items!
[03:10] <hybrid> aurax : ok
[03:10] <aurax> is there a way to speed up wine a little
[03:11] <aurax> i tried to run mirc and everything moving sooo slooow
[03:11] <Cindux> heh
[03:11] <hybrid> juss use xchat or apt-get install bitchx
[03:11] <Cindux> mirc's made by some guy with a funny name :p
[03:11] <djk> why are you running mic in wine
[03:11] <djk> mirc
[03:11] <aurax> just for checking
[03:11] <aurax> i love mirc
[03:11] <aurax> lol
[03:11] <Cindux> Khaled *snickers*
[03:12] <hybrid> lol oo ok
[03:12] <djk> install windows then
[03:12] <surrounder> hmmm can someone perhaps point me to a document oh how to use initrd? when I built a custom kernel it won't run because my initrd is not ok and when I try to boot it without it get even less far...
[03:12] <aurax> i got windows here
[03:12] <aurax> but i wont install windows on this box
[03:12] <hybrid> auraax: d00d u do alot of testing
[03:12] <aurax> for mIRC
[03:12] <Cindux> :P
[03:12] <aurax> sure hybrid
[03:12] <Cindux> I only like windows 2k
[03:12] <aurax> its for w3rk
[03:12] <flowerss> how does xchat compare to bitchx anyways?
[03:13] <hybrid> oo
[03:13] <hybrid> flowerss: idk never used bitchx
[03:13] <housetier> flowerss, one is a gtk app, the other is not
[03:13] <DonL> I found out last night that my mileage really does vary. Screwed up an update to hoary so bad I had to reinstall Warty
[03:13] <hybrid> bitchx is command line tho
[03:13] <flowerss> I'm running xchat right now but for a long time I used BitchX.  Used to run it under Windowmaker in the pre-gnome days.
[03:14] <hybrid> lol
[03:14] <flowerss> DonL I hear you.  Every install of Hoary has been like that for me.
[03:14] <hybrid> alot of ppl like it and the whole ircII or iscii w/e
[03:14] <DonL> I'm thinking mostly because of the Nvidia acceleration I had installed.
[03:14] <housetier> flowerss, just use the client you like best :)
[03:14] <DonL> ...and the change to Xorg
[03:15] <randabis> surrounder,  mkinitrd initrdname.img /path/to/kernel/modules
[03:15] <flowerss> DonL I don't know why mine does it.  It just goes west every time I try to install it.  I've tried 2 different boxes and tried upgrading warty and installing fresh Hoary.  No luck.
[03:16] <DonL> flowerss, I love Warty so much, I'm happy here for as long as I can
[03:16] <flowerss> DonL I've only been running Ubuntu for a week.  I used SuSE before that.  So far I like Ubuntu much better.
[03:16] <flowerss> I just want to be able to run Beagle.
[03:16] <DonL> I used Mandrake for years. I really like Ubuntu
[03:17] <farruinn> what do you do when you get the error "I've already detected a gnome-panel running"?
[03:17] <flowerss> on SuSE every time there was some kind of security update all my USB stuff would quit working until the next update came out a week later.
[03:17] <farruinn> I tried killall gnome-panel but get the same error
[03:18] <DonL> I find apt-get far superior to rpm
[03:18] <flowerss> farruinn:  if you type ps awxx | grep gnome-panel, does it find any instances of the panel running?
[03:18] <hybrid_> flowerss: i am on bitchx now
[03:18] <DonL> Just my personal opinion, mind you
[03:18] <HrdwrBoB> hybrid_: try irssi
[03:18] <flowerss> DonL - That's what I like better too.
[03:18] <HrdwrBoB> you'll never look back :)
[03:19] <goldfish_> X
[03:19] <goldfish_> C L
[03:19] <goldfish_> CIGGY!
[03:19] <farruinn> irssi rocks my boat, but not gnome-panels at the moment =/
[03:19] <hybrid_> HrdwrBoB : what are the benifits od irssi
[03:19] <flowerss> I should figure out how to do irc in emacs.  It does everything else.
[03:19] <HrdwrBoB> hybrid_: it's about 100x less annoying
[03:20] <farruinn> flowerss: you mean emacsOS? ;)
[03:20] <HrdwrBoB> ie: new windows for messages, handles multiple networks and disconnections gracefully
[03:20] <hybrid_> ok i am gonna log off then try it
[03:20] <hybrid_> brb
[03:20] <farruinn> I wish the alt+arrow would work for switching windows I just get 3C or 3D
[03:20] <flowerss> farruinn Exactly!
[03:20] <tritium> farruinn, in xchat?  Alt-#
[03:21] <tritium> to move between tabs
[03:21] <Cindux> jerks
[03:21] <Cindux> don;t you hate it when you post threads on a forum
[03:21] <Cindux> and see 101 views, 0 posts
[03:21] <farruinn> tritium: irssi
[03:21] <flowerss> that sucks Cindux
[03:21] <Cindux> lol
[03:22] <Cindux> meh
[03:22] <hybrid> back
[03:22] <tritium> Cindux, that doesn't make them jerks.  Maybe nobody had the answer.
[03:22] <Cindux> lies
[03:22] <farruinn> Cindux: what's the thread? I'll reply if it makes you feel better =)
[03:22] <Cindux> it's an obvious question :D
[03:22] <flowerss> It's worse when you post in a forum and the only replies are get-rich-quick scheme spams.
[03:22] <mpq> I have a problem
[03:22] <Cindux> I simpy asked what performance difference i would see
[03:22] <DonL> Cindux, maybe it was the question
[03:22] <mpq> I tried to install but I don't know anything about partitioning
[03:22] <Cindux> estimated on a scale of 1-10
[03:22] <Cindux> or in %
[03:22] <Cindux> nuh uh
[03:22] <Cindux> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=14613
[03:22] <Cindux> Very straight forward & clear
[03:22] <Cindux> provided details as well
[03:23] <farruinn> ok now you're just whining ;)
[03:23] <farruinn> mpq: what do you need to know?
[03:23] <n0sferatu> hey there, can someone tell me how can i share internet with ubuntu ?
[03:23] <mpq> how to do it without deleting everything on the computer
[03:23] <Cindux> * wines *
[03:23] <tritium> Cindux, maybe 0% of the people who read your thread had your hardware.
[03:23] <hybrid> i like irssi it is strate forward
[03:23] <Cindux> lol
[03:23] <Cindux> lies
[03:24] <DonL> The difference, Cindux, would be this much
[03:25] <Cindux> oh ><
[03:25] <Cindux> everyone has to pick on the little guy
[03:25] <Cindux> just cuz i memorized the shell in 2.3 days
[03:25] <Cindux> cough cough
[03:25] <mpq> how do I partition without deleting everything on the hard drive?
[03:26] <Cindux> ?
[03:26] <flowerss> the shell is easy to memorize:   user@pc:~ $
[03:26] <Cindux> All partitioning does is devide your harddrive into seperate sections
[03:26] <flowerss> mpq you need something like Partition Magic
[03:26] <Cindux> it doesnt delete anything to partition
[03:26] <mpq> that costs a lot of money
[03:26] <flowerss> if you have existing partitions and no room for new ones.
[03:26] <mpq> I thought linux was supposed to be free
[03:26] <hybrid> is there any benifits of sudo over the root terminal
[03:26] <Cindux> oh
[03:27] <hybrid> ?
[03:27] <zenwhen> mpq, download knoppix and use qtparted to resize your window partition
[03:27] <zenwhen> it is free
[03:27] <flowerss> mpq I don't know if any linux tools can resize partitions to make room for you.
[03:27] <tritium> qtparted doesn't always work that well
[03:27] <mpq> the ubuntu installer has a partitioner
[03:27] <mpq> but I don't understand it
[03:27] <zenwhen> mpq, qtparted will do the job and do it well
[03:27] <mpq> can I get it without having to download yet another iso?
[03:27] <flowerss> mpq do you have any blank space on your drive without partions on it?
[03:27] <mpq> yes
[03:28] <mpq> I don't have any partitions yet
[03:28] <zenwhen> is the dirve blank?
[03:28] <zenwhen> drive*
[03:28] <mpq> why would it be?
[03:28] <zenwhen> then you have a partition
[03:28] <DonL> maybe one big one
[03:28] <zenwhen> yes
[03:28] <mpq> I have a 60 GB drive
[03:28] <hybrid> u gotta have a partion to have aan os
[03:28] <mpq> and I wanted to split it into two 30 GB partitions
[03:29] <Cindux> mpq
[03:29] <mpq> but I don't know how to do that in the ubuntu installer
[03:29] <Cindux> theirs no such thing as a 60gb drive
[03:29] <Cindux> because you wont have 60gb
[03:29] <mpq> then what's on my computer?
[03:29] <zenwhen> download knoppix and use qtparted to resize. it is your only free option that you will be able to easily do.
[03:29] <flowerss> mpq does it already have windows or something on it?
[03:29] <Cindux> it's something like
[03:29] <Cindux> 54.76gb
[03:29] <mpq> yes
[03:29] <tritium> theirs?
[03:29] <zenwhen> Cindux, why tell him that
[03:29] <flowerss> mpq is there more than 30 GB of free space?
[03:29] <mpq> that just seems like splitting hairs
[03:29] <zenwhen> its rather asinine
[03:29] <mpq> yes
[03:29] <Cindux> he wanted 2 30gb partitions
[03:29] <Cindux> :P
[03:29] <mpq> you're splitting hairs
[03:30] <n0sferatu> hey how can i share my internet connection, i have the internet access in eth0 and my lan is in eth1
[03:30] <flowerss> then your best bet is to use that knoppix tool like somebody else suggested
[03:30] <n0sferatu> what can i do?
[03:30] <liquid_> hello I'm trying to setup the flash plug-in with firefox. It seems to be installed but why won't it work?
[03:30] <liquid_> Linux acronis 2.6.8.1-3-amd64-generic #1 Tue Oct 12 11:40:38 UTC 2004 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[03:30] <mpq> can I get it without having to download yet ANOTHER 600mb iso?
[03:30] <tritium> http://www.sysresccd.org/ is even better than knoppix
[03:30] <Linforcer> By now anyone here who has experience with using webcams in Linux?
[03:31] <farruinn> n0sferatu: I don't know the details, but google nat
[03:31] <hybrid> mpq: try buying a pressed cd for about 5$
[03:31] <DonL> I like the Warty live disk better than knoppix
[03:32] <Cindux> are the Ubuntu CD's really free ?
[03:32] <Cindux> i dont want it showing up at my door witha $ charge lol
[03:33] <surrounder> thanks randabis!
[03:33] <hybrid> DonL: it is nice
[03:33] <tritium> DonL, yes, but it doesn't have partitioning tool.  That's why we're not recommending it.
[03:33] <hybrid> mpq : try mandrake it isextremely simple
[03:33] <DonL> I know it's knoppix based, but I prefer gnome
[03:33] <mpq> this seems overcomplicated
[03:33] <DonL> Oh. sorry. Didn't know about the partitioning tool
[03:33] <mpq> all I want to do is split the disk in half so I can install ubuntu
[03:33] <mpq> and now I've been told to use two different distros
[03:33] <farruinn> mpq: the problem is you can't just split it while keeping your data
[03:33] <farruinn> you have to resize the partition
[03:33] <pepsi__> whered the little wireless applet go?
[03:33] <pepsi__> in hoary?
[03:33] <hybrid> mpq : what arectecture are u on
[03:33] <mpq> huh?
[03:33] <DonL> farruinn, do you have windows on it now?
[03:33] <hybrid> CINDUX : YEA
[03:33] <mpq> yes
[03:33] <mpq> that wasn't for me
[03:33] <farruinn> DonL: what?
[03:34] <geppy> If you're sshing into a server, what's a good way to tell what distro it's running?
[03:34] <DonL> Is windows installed on your hard drive now?
[03:34] <tritium> geppy, try uname -r
[03:34] <tritium> or -a
[03:34] <mpq> I think it's NTFS if that's what you're asking
[03:34] <hybrid> geppy try nmap -O server ip
[03:34] <tritium> ntfs resizing is sort of risky
[03:35] <farruinn> DonL: no, I have a mac
[03:35] <geppy> uname just gives you kernel, etc
[03:35] <geppy> I'll try nmap
[03:35] <DonL> Ahh. So you have to use a ppc version of ubuntu
[03:35] <mpq> so then there's no way to do it without possibly deleting everything on my computer?
[03:35] <hybrid> ubuntu ppc rules
[03:35] <DonL> hybrid, I'm out of my league here
[03:36] <tritium> geppy, he doesn't need to install nmap just for that, when uname will do the job
[03:36] <eatmyshor> I am here to let you know of a new site that just launched.  www.FreeStuffNation.com . get all kinds of free stuff (free ipods/free minimacs/free lcd monitors).
[03:36] <eatmyshor> www.freestuffnation.com
[03:36] <hybrid> DonL ok lol
[03:36] <farruinn> mpq: unfortunately that's right
[03:36] <mpq> this is why I don't want to use windows
[03:36] <geppy> tritium:  uname doesn't give you the distribution
[03:36] <mpq> as if I didn't hate my computer enough already...
[03:36] <tritium> mpq, any chance you can just delete windows.  possibly reinstall?
[03:37] <mpq> probably not
[03:37] <tritium> geppy, he wants to know OS
[03:37] <tritium> not distro
[03:37] <tritium> geppy, my mistake
[03:37] <geppy> tritium:  sorry, I was talking about what I was looking for;  I was looking for a way to find the distribution
[03:37] <hybrid> mpq yea tritium is rite back up important stuff then use a cd
[03:37] <geppy> tritium:  =)
[03:37] <randabis> cat /etc/lsb-release
[03:38] <mpq> "back up important stuff"?
[03:38] <tritium> geppy, :) sorry
[03:38] <Faustus> say guys is helix ported in hoarty?
[03:38] <geppy> tritium:  haha.. no worries. =)
[03:38] <mpq> this clearly isn't worth it
[03:38] <mpq> I thought this would be simple
[03:38] <tritium> mpq, Windows makes it difficult :(
[03:38] <farruinn> mpq: unfortunately there is _no_ simply solution to what you're looking for
[03:39] <mpq> so I can't do anything?
[03:39] <mpq> why did I bother trying to use linux in the first place?
[03:39] <tritium> mpq, you can do what we suggested
[03:39] <randabis> helix is in hoary
[03:39] <hybrid> u can if u r ^^4|) 31337
[03:39] <mpq> which was back up everything and delete windows?
[03:39] <hybrid> lol
[03:39] <tritium> mpq, or use a partioning tool
[03:39] <randabis> what did you do to windows? lol
[03:39] <`shane> anyone know how to type non-Roman letters such as Latvian diacritics in Linux?
[03:40] <geppy> shane;  GNOME?  Just change the keyboard map.
[03:40] <`shane> in OO.org for example
[03:40] <nomasteryoda> randabis, ain't using windows enough?
[03:40] <`shane> ok thanks
[03:40] <nomasteryoda> =)
[03:40] <randabis> I don't use windows at all :p
[03:40] <geppy> tritium:  How long does nmap take?  It's still running.
[03:40] <flowerss> when is hoary supposed to be done anyways?
[03:40] <Cindux> :P
[03:40] <Cindux> tomorrows my day of uber laziness
[03:40] <randabis> April 2005
[03:40] <geppy> flowerss: April
[03:40] <hybrid> geppy : depense
[03:40] <tritium> geppy, I don't have it installed.  Don't know...
[03:40] <Cindux> watching the sw trilogy
[03:40] <Cindux> straight through
[03:40] <geppy> tritium:  Alright, thanks.
[03:40] <jdub> flowerss: www.ubuntu.com/wiki/HoaryReleaseSchedule
[03:40] <DonL> This has been a windows free zone for about three years
[03:41] <randabis> mpq use BootItNG
[03:41] <jdub> flowerss: preview in march, final in april
[03:41] <randabis> on a floppy disk
[03:41] <randabis> you can resize ntfs with that
[03:41] <Cindux> isnt it bootit ng ?
[03:41] <geppy> tritium:  Are there any other ways to determine the distro?  nmap couldn't figure it out.
[03:41] <randabis> http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/downloads/bootitng.zip
[03:42] <randabis> geppy
[03:42] <tritium> geppy, snoop around in /etc since you can ssh into the machine
[03:42] <randabis> cat /etc/lsb-release
[03:42] <randabis> try that
[03:42] <tritium> or possibly /etc/issue
[03:42] <randabis> yeah
[03:43] <geppy> tritium:  Alright.  I'm not the one who is doing the SSHing, but I'll tell him to. =)
[03:43] <tritium> okay
[03:43] <jay_> hey, question: I'm running ubuntu on an old p2 266 mhz -- and it's kinda slow. Someone previously mentioned this gui that runs REALLY fast - anyone know what it is?
[03:44] <hybrid> matchbox
[03:44] <DonL> Well, I should be off to continue re-installing Warty after the big crash
[03:44] <randabis> jay_, you could try fluxbox
[03:44] <hybrid> lol
[03:44] <farruinn> flux rules
[03:44] <tritium> jay_, or xfce, perhaps
[03:44] <flowerss> geppy what does it say when you go uname -a
[03:44] <jay_> xfce -- thats what I heard!
[03:44] <mpq> I thought this would be simple...
[03:44] <tritium> DonL, ouch.  What happened?
[03:44] <jay_> i'll check em both - thanks!
[03:44] <randabis> flowerss, that shows kernel, not distro
[03:44] <tritium> mpq, it's not too bad.  We're here to help.
[03:44] <DonL> tritium, failed upgrade to hoary
[03:44] <randabis> mpq
[03:44] <randabis> try this
[03:45] <flowerss> randabis well if you do it on BSD it shows which bsd you are using.
[03:45] <tritium> DonL, how so?
[03:45] <randabis> http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/downloads/bootitng.zip
[03:45] <randabis> flowerss, but this isn't BSD :p
[03:45] <hybrid> DonL : what are you installing it off
[03:45] <geppy> flowers: try it yourself;  it just tells you username, time, arch, and kernel
[03:45] <DonL> I think the accelerated version of Nvidia I had installed screwed some stuff up
[03:45] <randabis> mpq put the contents of that zip file onto a floppy disk
[03:45] <scorpix> is it possible to play a wav file when xdm starts?
[03:45] <randabis> and boot the floppy
[03:45] <DonL> hybrid, I did the upgrade from the internet
[03:45] <mpq> my computer doesn't have a floppy drive
[03:45] <tritium> DonL, doesn't sound too hard to figure out.
[03:45] <tritium> DonL, what happened?
[03:45] <mpq> and that's not my problem anyway
[03:46] <hybrid> DonL oo ok
[03:46] <mpq> I figured out the booting problem
[03:46] <hybrid> i c
[03:46] <hybrid> and it crashed woarty?
[03:46] <DonL> I did everything I read, but it booted with mega errors, and no X
[03:46] <randabis> mpq you wanted to resize ntfs? maybe I didn't get all that correctly
[03:46] <mpq> yeah
[03:46] <tritium> mpq, what's wrong with trying a bootable CD with qtparted?
[03:46] <mpq> so I could make a partition for linux
[03:46] <hybrid> DonL : ouch
[03:46] <flowerss> geppy well, I know if it's a SuSE or NLD distro there will be a file in /etc that is calles SuSE.config or something like that.
[03:46] <tritium> mpq, that's not very difficult to try
[03:46] <randabis> mpq well that program will allow you to resize an ntfs partition
[03:46] <tritium> DonL, did you "dist-upgrade"
[03:46] <tritium> ?
[03:47] <DonL> I was used to this from Mandrake, but didn't like it, so after trying to fix it and getting into a nose dive, I dumped and started again
[03:47] <mpq> I was told that resizing a NTFS partition could delete everything on the hard drive
[03:47] <randabis> bootitng will resize it safely
[03:47] <DonL> tritium , yes. dist-upgrade
[03:47] <farruinn> mpq: with qtparted
[03:47] <hybrid> tritium : will editing the sources.list then apt-get update upgraade it all?
[03:47] <randabis> you could create a bootable cd with bootitng I believe
[03:47] <mpq> can I get that without having to download a 700MB iso?
[03:47] <hybrid> or will i need to run dist-upgrade
[03:48] <randabis> mpq bootitng is very small
[03:48] <tritium> hybrid, not all of it, but it's safer
[03:48] <mpq> I don't have a floppy drive
[03:48] <hybrid> tritum : ok
[03:48] <mpq> you said I had to but bootitng on a floppy disk
[03:48] <farruinn> mpq: you could probably burn it to a cd I'd imagine
[03:48] <tritium> hybrid, dist-upgrade can remove packages when dependencies aren't met
[03:48] <mpq> I already need the cd for the ubuntu installer
[03:48] <hybrid> tritium : o i c
[03:48] <DonL> Oh! Someone here helped me after my first install with an unresponsive floppy drive.
[03:49] <Cindux> hm
[03:49] <DonL> I know you have to make it vfat, but don't know how
[03:49] <Cindux> i think the boot order on my compaq is screwed up in the BIOS
[03:49] <randabis> mpq you can burn the contents of the zip file to a cd and make it a bootable cd
[03:49] <tritium> mpq, http://www.sysresccd.org/ is only around 100 MB
[03:50] <mpq> this isn't working
[03:50] <Cindux> hm time to go read a long linux newb pdf :P
[03:50] <Cindux> b4 i do
[03:50] <Cindux> just one question
[03:50] <mpq> I haven't installed linux on my computer yet
[03:50] <mpq> because I can't partition
[03:50] <Cindux> after removing a file in the "command line" on ubuntu
[03:50] <Cindux> does it go to the trash
[03:50] <nomasteryoda> mpq, if you don't mind downloading something smaller, suse has a boot image of about 25mb ... for CD
[03:50] <nomasteryoda> boot up and do ftp install
[03:50] <farruinn> Cindux: no, it's gone forever
[03:50] <Cindux> excelente :P
[03:50] <Cindux> k thanks
[03:50] <Cindux> gonna read :d
[03:50] <randabis> I gave you an option mpq, it's up to you to take it
[03:50] <flowerss> in Warty, when I browse to a windows share using the Network icon, and double click a windows box, it doesn't prompt me for a login ID or password, it just says You do not have the permissions to view the contents...
[03:50] <mpq> I don't understand
[03:51] <flowerss> How do I get a windows box to prompt for login credentials?
[03:51] <hybrid> Cindux : Unix is very powerful thats why you dont login as root
[03:51] <tritium> DonL, use dist-upgrade with caution if you try upgrading to Hoary again.
[03:51] <nomasteryoda> flowerss, download Xteq
[03:51] <nomasteryoda> if you mean the Ctrlaltdel box
[03:51] <flowerss> nomasteryoda, what's Xteq?
[03:51] <randabis> mpq download bootitng, unzip it, burn the contents of the zip file to a cd, and make the cd bootable
[03:51] <DonL> tritium, yes, but that's what I read to do in more than one place
[03:51] <nomasteryoda> free registry tweaker for winders
[03:51] <mpq> I don't know how to make a cd bootable
[03:52] <randabis> what burning app do you use?
[03:52] <nomasteryoda> mpq, when you burn it it will be
[03:52] <mpq> I don't know
[03:52] <randabis> ...
[03:52] <hybrid> whats the argument to start a c++ project in gcc?
[03:52] <mpq> it wasn't the first four times I tried to download a boot cd
[03:52] <nomasteryoda> as long as the iso is made that way
[03:52] <Faustus> does anyone know if deb-src http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net/debian woody main is kept up to date?  Can I use with ubuntu?
[03:52] <mpq> it's not
[03:52] <DonL> tritium,  I do appreciate your help. One must be careful
[03:52] <mpq> is there a partitioner than can be used in windows?
[03:53] <randabis> partition magic
[03:53] <mpq> so I can install linux?
[03:53] <randabis> it's not free though
[03:53] <nomasteryoda> not in windows
[03:53] <nomasteryoda> mpq, Ultimate Boot CD has one on it
[03:53] <mpq> so my only solution is to buy a $70 program just to use something that was supposed to be free?
[03:53] <nomasteryoda> and is free
[03:53] <DonL> Anyone know how to get a floppy going then? It has to understand MS fat
[03:53] <tritium> DonL, what do you mean?  mount it?
[03:54] <hybrid> mpq : do u kno what free means
[03:54] <DonL> Yup. Wont' even see it
[03:54] <randabis> mpq try the ultimate boot cd nomasteryoda suggested
[03:54] <tritium> mpq, no, that's not your only solution.  We've laid out others for you.
[03:54] <randabis> I didn't realize it had a partitioning software included
[03:54] <mpq> and I didn't understand any of them
[03:54] <hybrid> DonL : eww fun
[03:54] <hybrid> lol
[03:54] <tritium> DonL, what did you try?
[03:54] <flowerss> how the heck do you access windows shares in Nautilus?
[03:54] <mpq> or half of them involved backing up everything and reinstalling windows
[03:55] <randabis> uh, only ONE of them did actually
[03:55] <hybrid> mpq : go to shipit.ubuntu.com and then get the live cd
[03:55] <DonL> Well, I have some saved files, on floppies, formatted in MS format
[03:55] <nomasteryoda> mpq, it is a safer way to go ...
[03:55] <mpq> I have the live cd
[03:55] <nomasteryoda> backing things up
[03:55] <mpq> I have way too much stuff to back up everything
[03:55] <nomasteryoda> ok
[03:55] <hybrid> mpq : then use it
[03:55] <randabis> try the ultimate boot cd
[03:55] <DonL> Someone here told me a quick way of getting Ubuntu to recognize and mount them, then my system crashed and I forget how to redo that
[03:55] <hybrid> whut is ur problem
[03:55] <nomasteryoda> do you have an extra drive?
[03:55] <tritium> mpq, you want to backup, even if you're just resizing, to be safe
[03:56] <hybrid> lol
[03:56] <mpq> if I had an extra drive this wouldn't be a problem
[03:56] <nomasteryoda> tritium, i echo your comments
[03:56] <nomasteryoda> ok
[03:56] <tritium> nomasteryoda, :)
[03:56] <randabis> maybe you should just use the livecd for a while a get a feel for linux. :/
[03:56] <tritium> DonL, command line?  mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /media/floppy
[03:56] <hybrid> mpq : use the live cd or get an extra hdd and install ubuntu on it
[03:56] <nomasteryoda> mpq, you risk losing all your data anytime you resize the partition... or at least making it a pain to get back
[03:56] <mpq> I can't get an extra hdd
[03:57] <mpq> I'm on a laptop
[03:57] <hybrid> best 2 options
[03:57] <nomasteryoda> mpq, sure you can
[03:57] <mpq> not easily
[03:57] <DonL> tritium, is that for one go, or will it change the system
[03:57] <mpq> it seems the only solutions involve spending a lot of money I don't have
[03:57] <hybrid> mpq : external hdd
[03:57] <nomasteryoda> you can get a 6gb for small change
[03:57] <mpq> maybe to you
[03:57] <nomasteryoda> or yes, like hybrid said external
[03:57] <tritium> DonL, it doesn't change anything permanently
[03:57] <nomasteryoda> mpq, find a friend with an external
[03:58] <mpq> I don't have a friend
[03:58] <randabis> again, I suggest the ultimate boot cd since I was informed it now includes partitioning software
[03:58] <DonL> tritium, thanks for that. I'll write that down.
[03:58] <nomasteryoda> or for that matter, network the data to another system
[03:58] <tritium> mpq, we're here, and we're trying to help
[03:58] <mpq> I don't know anyone in real life that knows anything about computers
[03:58] <hybrid> do you go to work?
[03:58] <hybrid> do they have computers?
[03:58] <mpq> no
[03:58] <randabis> have you used the livecd at all?
[03:59] <mpq> yeah
[03:59] <randabis> ok
[03:59] <mpq> and I was confused as hell
[03:59] <tritium> mpq, do you have a CD burner?  You could burn your data to CD.
[03:59] <hybrid> wtf?
[03:59] <mpq> I don't have that many cds
[03:59] <tritium> mpq, can you buy a few?
[03:59] <randabis> so you were confused with even the livecd
[03:59] <hybrid> rofl
[03:59] <randabis> what makes you think you are going to be any less confused with installing the full distro?
[03:59] <nomasteryoda> mpq, wherebouts do you live?
[03:59] <DonL> Thanks again for the help folks. Must go for now.
[03:59] <mpq> I couldn't figure out how to do something
[03:59] <nomasteryoda> on an island?
[04:00] <mpq> I asked here and someone said it would be easier to install it
[04:00] <hybrid> lol
[04:00] <mpq> clearly it's not
[04:00] <tritium> mpq, what did you want to do?
[04:00] <hybrid> man i thot i was a newbie
[04:00] <mpq> set up a wireless network card in linux
[04:00] <nomasteryoda> hybrid, LOL
[04:00] <randabis> odds are you're going to be opening up a can of worms you aren't ready for
[04:00] <tritium> mpq, the LiveCD supports that.  What kind?
[04:01] <nomasteryoda> mpq, that is way up there on the list... very many versions of card chips
[04:01] <mpq> I'm going to try rebooting with the live cd
[04:01] <hybrid> WOW
[04:01] <randabis> before you do, what wireless card do you use?
[04:01] <nomasteryoda> good
[04:01] <mpq> this might be easier if I was actually on linux
[04:01] <nomasteryoda> mpq, what card>
[04:02] <hybrid> nomasteryoda : would that work? rebooting with a live cd?
[04:02] <mpq> I don't know how to find out
[04:02] <nomasteryoda> er, might work
[04:02] <tritium> mpq, can you look at the label?
[04:02] <tritium> and see the manufacturer?
[04:02] <mpq> it's in the computer
[04:02] <farruinn> perhaps it's on the manufacturer's website
[04:02] <nomasteryoda> mpq, you need to find out
[04:02] <hybrid> mpq : i did months of research b4 i installed linux
[04:02] <calamari> hi
[04:02] <nomasteryoda> simple way once you get bootable up
[04:02] <tritium> mpq, the Device Manager doesn't say anything?
[04:03] <nomasteryoda> tritium, it will but what about the chipset?
[04:03] <tritium> nomasteryoda, it's a start
[04:03] <nomasteryoda> true
[04:03] <tritium> but you're right
[04:03] <mpq> it's broadcom
[04:03] <nomasteryoda> ack
[04:03] <nomasteryoda> you will need the Ndiswrapper
[04:03] <hybrid> not my feild
[04:03] <nomasteryoda> and the windows driver
[04:04] <randabis> broadcom requires ndiswrapper
[04:04] <nomasteryoda> for that specific model
[04:04] <randabis> yep
[04:04] <nomasteryoda> i am using one here
[04:04] <nomasteryoda> bcm chipset
[04:04] <randabis> for that I think you WILL need a native linux on your system and not a live cd
[04:04] <tritium> I'm going to drink some beer.
[04:04] <hybrid> lol
[04:04] <tritium> good luck mpq
[04:04] <hybrid> u deserve it
[04:04] <nomasteryoda> tritium, lol
[04:04] <nomasteryoda> i'll have a soda
[04:04] <tritium> :) see you all later
[04:04] <hybrid> bye man
[04:04] <mpq> I think I'm going to stick with the wired connection until I figure out how to install it
[04:04] <hybrid> thnx for the help
[04:05] <tritium> hybrid, see you around
[04:05] <nomasteryoda> mpq, Knoppix has ndiswrapper on it
[04:05] <hybrid> iight man
[04:05] <nomasteryoda> 3.7 version that is
[04:05] <Xappe> hmm, nice. the dc++ port for linux is getting better and better...
[04:05] <odyssey> ubuntu only detects my radeon 7000 agp to be using 1x when it should be using 4x. Is there a way to change this?
[04:05] <mpq> so what, ubuntu won't work for me?
[04:05] <hybrid> lol
[04:05] <nomasteryoda>  you just download and extract the contents to a folder you can access while in knoppix or do the HD install
[04:06] <hybrid> nope none of us use it this is all our lil rpg
[04:06] <nomasteryoda> mpq, the latest distro might
[04:06] <nomasteryoda> i don't know about hat
[04:06] <nomasteryoda> that
[04:07] <hybrid> hey i edited my sources.list and did apt-get upgrade is there anything else i need to do to get hoary?
[04:08] <nomasteryoda> hybrid, did it all take?
[04:08] <nomasteryoda> no errors?
[04:08] <hybrid> nomasteryoda : yup
[04:09] <hybrid> none
[04:09] <nomasteryoda> so you have not rebooted yet?
[04:09] <hybrid> no
[04:09] <hybrid> do i need to
[04:09] <hybrid> ?
[04:09] <darmou> hybrid yes
[04:09] <nomasteryoda> hoary has different kernel, xorg
[04:09] <nomasteryoda> etc
[04:09] <hybrid> aight brb
[04:09] <nomasteryoda> good luck
[04:09] <hybrid> thnx
[04:09] <nomasteryoda> =)
[04:10] <Xappe> hybrid,  you should do an apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:10] <Xappe> damn
[04:10] <nomasteryoda> er, too late
[04:10] <nomasteryoda> he'll be back soon
[04:10] <darmou> mabey;)
[04:10] <nomasteryoda> =_)
[04:11] <nomasteryoda> mpq, in ubuntu?
[04:12] <mpq> yeah
[04:12] <nomasteryoda> cool
[04:12] <mpq> I'm using the live cd
[04:12] <nomasteryoda> open a terminal
[04:12] <mpq> ok
[04:12] <nomasteryoda> and type uname -a
[04:12] <nomasteryoda> so we know what version
[04:13] <mpq> Linux ubuntu 2.6.7 #2 Mon Oct 18 00:31:18 CEST 2004 i686 GNU/Linux
[04:13] <akurashy> i need help installing a eggdrop can someone help me =/
[04:13] <nomasteryoda> ok, so that would be warty
[04:14] <nomasteryoda> mpq, find out exactly what chipset you have
[04:14] <hybrid> all good here
[04:14] <nomasteryoda> for the wireless
[04:14] <mpq> how do I do that?
[04:14] <nomasteryoda> hybrid, you missed a step
[04:14] <Rotund> anyone here heard about what fluendo is going to charge for the fluendo plugins?
[04:14] <hybrid> wut?
[04:15] <Rotund> or know if Ubuntu will work with Fluendo in Hoary
[04:15] <nomasteryoda> Xappe said "hybrid,  you should do an apt-get dist-upgrade"
[04:15] <hybrid> oo ok
[04:15] <Chazzle> Hello?
[04:15] <nomasteryoda> mpq, open terminal
[04:15] <nomasteryoda> type
[04:15] <Chazzle> I was on earlier and I was working on setting up Ubuntu.
[04:15] <nomasteryoda> sudo lspci
[04:16] <nomasteryoda> look for bcm
[04:16] <nomasteryoda> look at version
[04:16] <nomasteryoda> write it down
[04:16] <geppy> I've found a .mov that kills gxine;  should I bugzilla it?
[04:16] <nomasteryoda> google for the windows driver
[04:16] <Chazzle> I have my BIOS set to CDROM...
[04:16] <mpq> forget it
[04:16] <nomasteryoda> lol
[04:16] <mpq> my sister is being an ass
[04:16] <mpq> and I have to disconnect
[04:16] <hybrid> Xappe : it told me to run apt-get update
[04:16] <nomasteryoda> lol
[04:16] <nomasteryoda> lol
[04:16] <nomasteryoda> lol
[04:17] <geppy> I've found a .mov that kills gxine;  what should I do with it/
[04:17] <nomasteryoda> hybrid, check the version
[04:17] <nomasteryoda> uname -a
[04:17] <Chazzle> What do I need to do now.
[04:17] <Xappe> hybrid, what told you?
[04:17] <hybrid> Linux Hybrid 2.6.8.1-3-powerpc #1 Thu Nov 18 13:59:38 UTC 2004 ppc GNU/Linux
[04:17] <nomasteryoda> Xappe, i gave him the command you told him before he rebooted
[04:18] <nomasteryoda> er, warty right?
[04:18] <Xappe> hybrid, the procedure is... apt-get update and then apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:18] <hybrid> Xappe : i apt-get dist-upgrade then it said to fix these errors run apt-get update
[04:18] <hybrid> ok
[04:18] <Chazzle> nomasteryoda, are you asking me if I have Warty?
[04:19] <hybrid> thanx you two
[04:19] <nomasteryoda> np
[04:19] <nomasteryoda> Chazzle, sure why not
[04:19] <Chazzle> I am a NOOB
[04:19] <Chazzle> sorry.
[04:19] <Chazzle> Trying to work this out.
[04:19] <nomasteryoda> not like some people =)
[04:19] <Chazzle> ;)
[04:19] <hybrid> lol
[04:19] <nomasteryoda> did you get the bootable or the install cd
[04:19] <nomasteryoda> mpq, got rid of that arse?
[04:19] <mpq> no
[04:20] <hybrid> lol
[04:20] <Chazzle> I downloaded the iso from the sight and burned it to disk.
[04:20] <mpq> wish I could
[04:20] <hybrid> lo
[04:20] <hybrid> lol
[04:20] <mpq> I can't use linux now
[04:20] <nomasteryoda> mpq, you can download qemu
[04:20] <steve_> why mpq
[04:20] <hybrid> or cygwin
[04:20] <mpq> the POS router apparently won't let two people use wired connections at the same time
[04:20] <nomasteryoda> and some of the images and try distros that way
[04:20] <nomasteryoda> while in windows
[04:20] <hybrid> not the best but hey
[04:20] <mpq> and I can't use the wireless card in linux
[04:21] <nomasteryoda> qemu is nice
[04:21] <nomasteryoda> and free
[04:21] <nomasteryoda> and they even have an image of ubuntu warty to download an use
[04:21] <nomasteryoda> from in winders
[04:21] <nomasteryoda> a good way to "check it out"
[04:22] <Xenguy> nomasteryoda: do you mean run qemu in linux or winders?
[04:22] <Levander> anyone else here programming python on warty?  can't get PYTHONPATH to work correctly, wondering if there's a trick?
[04:22] <nomasteryoda> Xenguy, funny
[04:22] <nomasteryoda> i do it both ways
[04:23] <nomasteryoda> but yes, for mpq in windows
[04:23] <hybrid> lol
[04:23] <nomasteryoda> lol
[04:23] <mpq> what does qemu do?
[04:23] <Chazzle> Quickly, how can I start the CD when I reboot?
[04:23] <nomasteryoda> it is a virtual machine
[04:23] <Xenguy> nomasteryoda: qemu runs on winders? Hrm
[04:23] <mpq> what is that?
[04:23] <hybrid> fake linux
[04:23] <nomasteryoda> a way of running another OS while in another OS
[04:24] <nomasteryoda> pretty fast with today's computers
[04:24] <hybrid> mpq : ever heard of google or clusty?
[04:24] <nomasteryoda> LOL
[04:24] <hybrid> or any search engine?
[04:24] <nomasteryoda> LOLROTF
[04:24] <rcliii> chazzle: if you have the bios set to boot from the cd you just have to put the cd in and reboot...
[04:24] <hybrid> qemu is the free (cheap no mullah ) version of VM
[04:24] <mpq> I can't run linux now
[04:24] <nomasteryoda> mpq has sister breathing down back... give him a break..
[04:24] <Chazzle> maybe I don't have this set up right.
[04:25] <mpq> I can't get on the internet while I'm in linux
[04:25] <mpq> that's the problem
[04:25] <nomasteryoda> mpq, with an install distro you can
[04:25] <hybrid> u got ethrnet?
[04:25] <Chazzle> to set bios, I hold down f2 and then change the settings right?
[04:25] <nomasteryoda> i'm on suse here and using bcm chipset wifi card
[04:25] <mpq> I can't install right now
[04:25] <rcliii> chassle: that sounds right
[04:25] <nomasteryoda> ok
[04:25] <hybrid> Chzzle yea
[04:25] <hybrid> **chazzle
[04:25] <Chazzle> I will do this again...
[04:25] <nomasteryoda> mpq, that is why i suggested qemu
[04:25] <nomasteryoda> google for it man
[04:26] <Dreamer3> ok
[04:26] <Dreamer3> hmmm
[04:26] <Chazzle> I think I might have a bad version of the burn.
[04:26] <hybrid> the url is http://google.org
[04:26] <Dreamer3> how am i supposed to move the home partition if i can only log in as users...?
[04:26] <nomasteryoda> Chazzle, happens
[04:26] <Dreamer3> (And not root)?
[04:26] <Chazzle> yup.
[04:26] <Chazzle> thx
[04:26] <Ixan> Hi! I'm getting strange behaviour from evolution on hoary amd64, it terminates with sigfpe
[04:26] <nomasteryoda> dreamer, you have to go to single user mode
[04:26] <mpq> I am so confused
[04:26] <mpq> why did I think I could do this?
[04:26] <Dreamer3> nomasteryoda: or sudo passwd root? :)
[04:27] <nomasteryoda> Dreamer, best to go to single user
[04:27] <nomasteryoda> init 1
[04:27] <niptac> hi guys can somebody help? my volume control just decided to stop working and I get error Sorry, no mixer elements and/or devices found
[04:27] <Dreamer3> nomasteryoda: thanks
[04:27] <Xenguy> mpq: getting good support/answers depends on you being very specific in your speech
[04:27] <Dreamer3> hmmmmmm
[04:27] <mpq> I don't even know my problems
[04:27] <mpq> how can I be specific?
[04:27] <nomasteryoda> or Dreamer... init 3
[04:27] <Dreamer3> nomasteryoda: which? :)
[04:27] <nomasteryoda> at the least
[04:27] <niptac> some multimedia applications also won't load up
[04:28] <nomasteryoda> init 3 will allow netowrk to function
[04:28] <mpq> I can't run linux because I wouldn't be able to connect
[04:28] <Dreamer3> nomasteryoda: but it will let me log in at root (init 3)?
[04:28] <mpq> I can't set up the wireless card in linux without installing it
[04:28] <Xenguy> mpq: you just need to describe what you are doing, and what the errors/symptoms are, with some level of completeness and detail -- slap-dash comments will not go very far in this medium
[04:28] <mpq> I can't install it without potentially deleting everything on my computer
[04:28] <hybrid> nope it is impossible to connect to the internet with the os that built it.
[04:28] <niptac> but I still get sound
[04:28] <hybrid> mpq if we man newbie we will find u
[04:28] <nomasteryoda> Dreamer3, i think so, but not an expert on ubuntu
[04:28] <nomasteryoda> hybrid, LOL
[04:29] <nomasteryoda> I have ubuntu, but am using suse mostly
[04:29] <farruinn> mpq: do you have a wired connection?
[04:29] <Xenguy> mpq: are you using the 'Live CD', or ...?
[04:29] <mpq> I can't use more than one wired connection at the same time
[04:29] <nomasteryoda> farruinn, he does
[04:29] <hybrid> mpq : do you have a connection
[04:29] <mpq> I'm on wireless right now
[04:30] <mpq> but I can't use the wireless card while in linux
[04:30] <nomasteryoda> mpq, ah ic
[04:30] <nomasteryoda> sister would die without the connection
[04:30] <nomasteryoda> hehe
[04:30] <farruinn> so you don't have a wired connection available?
[04:30] <mpq> not right now
[04:30] <mpq> you can blame linksys for that
[04:30] <farruinn> got it
[04:30] <mpq> four ethernet ports and you can't use more than one at the same time
[04:31] <nomasteryoda> mpq, WTF
[04:31] <farruinn> probably not linksys's problem, probably  your isp making sure you don't get more than your money's worth =)
[04:31] <nomasteryoda> i use all mine
[04:31] <mpq> linksys is a piece of shit
[04:31] <nomasteryoda> i have a WRT54g
[04:31] <nomasteryoda> works great
[04:31] <hybrid> linksys is superior
[04:31] <mpq> then why does my wireless connection periodically crap out for no reason?
[04:31] <steve_> does anyone know of a good program to copy dvds
[04:31] <hybrid> <--- on a wan with an xp wireless cpu ubuntu ppc wireless notebook
[04:32] <hybrid> what kinda fone do u have
[04:32] <hybrid> dsl filter?
[04:32] <hybrid> wall thickness?
[04:32] <hybrid> paint additives?
[04:32] <hybrid> ...
[04:32] <billytwowilly>  http://supermanisadick.com/dick/20.html best comic book cover ever.
[04:32] <mpq> I'm on cable
[04:32] <mpq> six feet from the router right now
[04:32] <nomasteryoda> mpq, you need to upgrade the wrt54g firmware
[04:33] <nomasteryoda> but that is for later
[04:33] <mpq> I don't know what that is
[04:33] <nomasteryoda> up the power to max
[04:33] <hybrid> cable dsl satelite t1 t3 == broadband
[04:33] <nomasteryoda> i know
[04:33] <nomasteryoda> i am sitting on my couch in another room
[04:33] <nomasteryoda> and wireless
[04:33] <nomasteryoda> thru brick wall
[04:33] <hybrid> nomasteryoda : i hope wireless if u r on the couch
[04:33] <nomasteryoda> 16ft away
[04:33] <nomasteryoda> lol
[04:34] <nomasteryoda> laptop, on batteries even =)
[04:34] <kakalto> hybrid: I sometimes drag my computer to near my couch :)
[04:34] <ben> hi
[04:34] <hybrid> roflmao
[04:34] <steve_> does anyone know of a good program to copy dvds
[04:34] <mpq> the problem isn't with the wireless right now
[04:34] <kakalto> hybrid, it's very comfortable
[04:34] <hybrid> kakalto : hope it is a fraag box
[04:34] <hybrid> lol
[04:34] <kakalto> fraag?
[04:34] <hybrid> i meant frag
[04:34] <mpq> I can't use the wired connection because it doesn't work with multiple computers at the same time for some reason
[04:34] <mpq> and the wireless connection doesn't work while I'm in linux
[04:35] <kakalto> I have my living room wired with a network port
[04:35] <nomasteryoda> kakalto, me too
[04:35] <hybrid> `raises eyebrow...again`
[04:35] <nomasteryoda> but my wirelss is faster
[04:35] <kakalto> so I can surf & everything on my couch'
[04:35] <nomasteryoda> hybrid, lol
[04:35] <nomasteryoda> mpq,
[04:35] <kakalto> so long as I drag my box down there
[04:35] <nomasteryoda> find out what chipset is
[04:35] <mpq> I don't know how to
[04:36] <kakalto> I don't have a laptop :(
[04:36] <nomasteryoda> er, windows control panel
[04:36] <mchang> re all
[04:36] <nomasteryoda> or reboot into linux
[04:36] <nomasteryoda> for a min
[04:36] <hybrid> kakalto : stealitback.com
[04:36] <nomasteryoda> then open terminal
[04:36] <nomasteryoda> and type "lspci"
[04:36] <mchang> anyone else have some perl5.8 issues?
[04:36] <nomasteryoda> not comments
[04:36] <nomasteryoda> note comments
[04:36] <nomasteryoda> look for bcm
[04:36] <nomasteryoda> write it down
[04:36] <hybrid> that means rite them down on PAPER
[04:36] <hybrid> dont copy n paste
[04:37] <nomasteryoda> get driver and ndiswrapper
[04:37] <nomasteryoda> lol
[04:37] <nomasteryoda> yes
[04:37] <ben> hi everyone...Can out-of-the-box ubuntu system mount an NTFS partition....I'm having dificulties..
[04:37] <nomasteryoda> paper, remember that stuff
[04:37] <hybrid> lol
[04:37] <nomasteryoda> ben, it should in R mode
[04:37] <hybrid> ben: prolly but idk
[04:37] <nomasteryoda> not write
[04:37] <mpq> I was told that the wireless wouldn't work without installing linux on the hard drive
[04:37] <ben> thanks nomasteryoda, but what is R mode?
[04:37] <farruinn> mpq: he means the livecd I think
[04:37] <nomasteryoda> read only ... sry
[04:38] <nomasteryoda> farruinn, thks
[04:38] <nomasteryoda> yes
[04:38] <mpq> I knew that
[04:38] <nomasteryoda> live cd to evaluate the system
[04:38] <ben> sure I don't mind that it would be read mode..but I'm having trouble doing even that...
[04:38] <hybrid> ben : i think you can view the files but like nomasteryoda said it wont be w or x
[04:38] <nomasteryoda> then go back to windows and look for what you need
[04:38] <hybrid> mount -a ben
[04:38] <kakalto> must.... stealitback.com ....
[04:38] <mpq> ...forget it
[04:38] <mpq> there is no way I can do this now
[04:39] <nomasteryoda> lol
[04:39] <nomasteryoda> some noobs
[04:39] <hybrid> is he gone?
[04:39] <nomasteryoda> finally
[04:39] <hybrid> man he made me feel good
[04:39] <nomasteryoda> lol
[04:39] <Xappe> ben: http://ubuntuguide.org/#automountntfs
[04:39] <nomasteryoda> like a god
[04:39] <hybrid> i wz like i aint hopeless after all
[04:39] <nomasteryoda> or yoda
[04:39] <nomasteryoda> =)
[04:39] <Rotund> I want to get Ubuntu to auto-detect multiple video cards.  what is the program the installer uses to call xresprobe?
[04:39] <hybrid> lol
[04:40] <hybrid> nomasteryoda : i am the first to tell you i am a newbie but maan i feel like a att guru
[04:40] <ben> hybrid: this is what I'm doing >> sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /windows/c
[04:40] <Rotund> ubuntu
[04:40] <nomasteryoda> hybrid, lol
[04:40] <hybrid> ben ok what is the t argument?
[04:41] <farruinn> type
[04:41] <ben> t is for type
[04:41] <hybrid> o i c
[04:41] <farruinn> can anyone suggest a good gnome-terminal replacement?
[04:41] <ben> hybrid: i tried without t but i was getting an error..
[04:41] <bretzel> someone running Hoary array-cd-4 ???
[04:41] <Rotund> eterm =)
[04:41] <ben> xterm
[04:41] <farruinn> screen is miserable in gnome-terminal =(
[04:41] <hybrid> yea that should work
[04:41] <hybrid> i think -f is force
[04:41] <farruinn> ooh, I meant with tabs
[04:42] <ProgramGeek> Hi
[04:42] <randabis> wtf?
[04:42] <nomasteryoda> farruinn, you should be able to use konsole, but will have to install some kde libs
[04:42] <hybrid> hello
[04:42] <ben> hybrid: it seems like it works, but when I do that command..a window pops up as if to display folder /windows/c but then i get a message that I dont' have the premission to view this folder...odd
[04:42] <hybrid> plz dont say u  wanna install linux on a notebook
[04:42] <nomasteryoda> randabis, huh?
[04:42] <nomasteryoda> ben, sudo
[04:42] <randabis> nomasteryoda, it be my sis vncing me
[04:43] <bretzel> nomasteryoda: what ? konsole is wors than gnome-term ...!
[04:43] <randabis> muhahahah
[04:43] <niptac> problem fixed I ran gst-register-0.8
[04:43] <hybrid> try doing it in the root terminal
[04:43] <nomasteryoda> bretzel, er, IMHO tis better
[04:43] <ben> nomasteryoda:  I am using sudo with my mount command..thats why its puzzling..
[04:43] <randabis> I R OWNZ JOO
[04:43] <hybrid> and try ls -a to see what you get
[04:43] <nomasteryoda> ben, open the "root terminal"
[04:43] <ben> root terminal?? god I'll try that..
[04:43] <nomasteryoda> try it direct from there
[04:43] <bretzel> maybe Eterm, but largest fonts are too small in 1600x1200 ...
[04:43] <nomasteryoda> make sure you did
[04:43] <ben> good*...thanks guys..
[04:43] <nomasteryoda> mkdir /windows
[04:44] <nomasteryoda> and /windows/c
[04:44] <hybrid> rabdabis lmao j00 =\|2\_| `/4}{00
[04:44] <ben> yup..i did that
[04:44] <bretzel> So no one using hoary array-cd-4 ???
[04:45] <farruinn> nomasteryoda: I know about konsole and I agree with bretzel
[04:45] <nomasteryoda> ok
[04:45] <Xappe> bretzel, no i upgraded in early december
[04:45] <hybrid> ill brb yall
[04:45] <nomasteryoda> i use gnome term.. its ok too
[04:45] <bretzel> sorry :-/
[04:45] <farruinn> nomasteryoda: do you use screen with it?
[04:46] <ben> woah, the stuff is actually mounted...but I can't view it because I'm not root...thanks ppl..i think i know how to fix this now
[04:46] <Xappe> umask=0222 or something like that
[04:46] <farruinn> ben: the mount man page *might* be helpful, but good luck =)
[04:47] <bretzel> Xappe: Because if it contains the frozen pkgs , I want to know if nvidia-glx works with my FX 5200!!!! Sh&&%^ I tried everythings to get it loads the GLcore lib, it IS there but cannot find it !!! duh!
[04:47] <nomasteryoda> ben, umount then chown ben /windows/c
[04:47] <nomasteryoda> then remount
[04:48] <Xappe> bretzel, ah ok. fglrx for me, so I can't help you there
[04:48] <bretzel> Xappe: fglrx: ATI ???
[04:48] <hybrid> bac
[04:48] <Xappe> bretzel, yes
[04:49] <bretzel> Is the Radeon 9700 supported ??? :-P
[04:49] <Xappe> well, i've got a 9600 pro
[04:49] <Xappe> working
[04:49] <bretzel> Xappe: #D accel ?
[04:49] <bretzel> oops read 3D
[04:50] <hybrid>  i got the standard ibook ati radeon working right after the install
[04:50] <tritium> hey there hybrid
[04:50] <hybrid> hey man
[04:50] <Xappe> bretzel, yep, the new drivers from ATI now works with xorg
[04:50] <Levander> is it possible to export environment variables inside a crontab file?  So that the commands I run from the crontab also the the variable values?
[04:50] <tritium> So what happened with mpq?
[04:50] <hybrid> hey left bout 20 min ago finally
[04:50] <farruinn> tritium: he ran away
[04:51] <tritium> oh...
[04:51] <hybrid> after we made some jokes
[04:51] <hybrid> lol
[04:51] <tritium> oh, did he get upset?
[04:51] <hybrid> yea i had to give him the url to google
[04:51] <nomasteryoda> lol
[04:51] <tritium> yikes
[04:51] <bretzel> Xappe: Oh! my ! I know NVIDIA is loosing field against ATI so I am thinking of switching to ATI...
[04:51] <farruinn> I'm sure he appreciated the jokes...
[04:51] <hybrid> i dont think he knew what a search engine was
[04:51] <nomasteryoda> he did no notice
[04:51] <Xappe> bretzel, well the linux support for nvidia seems better though
[04:52] <nomasteryoda> i think he might have been 12
[04:52] <hybrid> tritium i told him his pic was under the man page for newbie
[04:52] <tritium> well, I guess we tried to help.  In fact, you guys helped more than I did, since I left.
[04:52] <hybrid> but besides that idk y he left
[04:52] <nomasteryoda> hybrid, LOLROTF
[04:52] <hybrid> ;)
[04:52] <tritium> hybrid, ouch
[04:52] <bretzel> appe: I know NVIDIA supports linux, but I dunno why ATI is far better than nvidia when it gets to work indeed :-)
[04:52] <hybrid> sad part is he didnt get it
[04:53] <tritium> bretzel, nvidia works just fine
[04:53] <tritium> hybrid, probably a good thing
[04:53] <hybrid> lol
[04:53] <hybrid> prolly
[04:53] <bretzel> tritium: -er, no: nvidia doesn't work here for me :-/
[04:53] <ben> where is PATH located?? /etc/profile??
[04:54] <hybrid> apt-get dist-upgrade est time 2 day 20 min 35 sec
[04:54] <hybrid> :'(
[04:54] <tritium> bretzel, how so?
[04:54] <nomasteryoda> hehe
[04:54] <hybrid> damn
[04:54] <Xappe> heh, what crapline are you on hybrid?
[04:54] <hybrid> 3 day 9hr 23 min
[04:54] <hybrid> direcway Xappe
[04:55] <farruinn> ben: yeah or .profile or .bash_profile or .bashrc ...
[04:55] <Xappe> hybrid, adsl?
[04:55] <hybrid> it gets blocked by weird thins
[04:55] <ben> thanks farruin...
[04:55] <hybrid> Xappe; yea but it is also 802 11b
[04:55] <tritium> bretzel, can I help?
[04:55] <Xappe> hybrid, ok
[04:55] <hybrid> my signal is only 75%
[04:56] <nomasteryoda> hybrid, man, i would have to find a cable
[04:56] <hybrid> oh yea 77
[04:56] <bretzel> tritium: hoary upgrade, nvidia-glx  - driver is totally screwed. I told here some days ago that the nvidia kernel cannot load a couple of  modules: GLcore: it IS there, but not found ( duh! ) - libdri etc .... all those modules are installed but no reason to not find it
[04:56] <hybrid> <---- middle of nowhere!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[04:56] <nomasteryoda> er... lol
[04:56] <farruinn> bretzel: did you try modprobe [module]  ?
[04:56] <Xappe> i'm normally getting like 800 -900 K from the ubuntu servers
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[04:56] <randabis> the nvidia driver doesn't use GLCore
[04:56] <farruinn> hybrid: please, that's very annoying
[04:57] <hybrid> oo srry
[04:57] <nomasteryoda> lol, but funny
[04:57] <tritium> bretzel, you're supposed to not load GLCore and dri.
[04:57] <tritium> bretzel, that's a setting in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:57] <farruinn> bretzel: oops, dont listen to me :D, tritium's the man
[04:58] <Xappe> bretxel, and you have the restricted modules etc.?
[04:58] <nomasteryoda> tritium is the heavy hitter..
[04:58] <nomasteryoda> =)
[04:58] <bretzel> randabis: I tried by commenting out the glcore line... no luck --- wiat I'll be back, retrying without  hope...
[04:58] <tritium> you guys are silly
[04:58] <tritium> :)
[04:58] <hybrid> go tritium go tritium
[04:58] <nomasteryoda> lack of sleep will do that to you
[04:58] <hybrid> lol
[04:59] <bretzel> tritium: ok but nvidia-glx-config enable script doesn't disbale those line in xorg, and it was still there in warty ...
[04:59] <Xappe> oh damn. it's 05 A.M. already, shit I have to sleep soon
[04:59] <tritium> bretzel, that's fine.  Let's comment then out.
[04:59] <hybrid> wo i went from 11 days est  day to 1 est days
[04:59] <hybrid> lol
[04:59] <hybrid> lol
[05:00] <tritium> hybrid, by then, there will be new updated to get ;)
[05:00] <tritium> updates
[05:00] <bretzel> tritium: okay, I can't remember how many times I tried ( commeting : glcore+dri without success ) let me try again ) see you soon
[05:00] <Xappe> hmm, no morning paper yet...lazy paper boy
[05:00] <hybrid> lol
[05:00] <hybrid> lol
[05:01] <hybrid> only 10 pm here
[05:01] <Xappe> ah, now it arrived
[05:01] <hybrid> lol
[05:01] <AgenT> has anyone had problem installing hoary on qemu? it gets almost half way into the install and then qemu seq faults... any ideas? using qemu 0.6.2 compiled on gentoo :)
[05:02] <hybrid> omg
[05:02] <tritium> AgenT, did you see the wiki page on that?
[05:02] <inc_> sup room
[05:02] <mebaran151> hey
[05:02] <tritium> hey
[05:02] <mebaran151> anybody have any idea why my sound suddenly stopped working
[05:02] <mebaran151> I checked the mixers
[05:02] <mebaran151> even alsamixer
[05:03] <inc_> sound is evil
[05:03] <mebaran151> and I am pretty sure it is not muted
[05:03] <AgenT> tritium: do you mean the howto install on qemu wiki page or is there another? that wiki page says nothing about seg faults from what i remember
[05:03] <mebaran151> esd is on
[05:03] <mebaran151> inc_, yes it is
[05:03] <mebaran151> but I happen to be Satan
[05:03] <mebaran151> so you know how it is
[05:03] <mebaran151> but I digress
[05:03] <Xappe> ah nice, the linuxdcpp seems to be based on dc++ 0.668...
[05:03] <tritium> AgenT, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/howto/installation-qemu/
[05:03] <mebaran151> any stale socket that could do this thing
[05:03] <hybrid> tritium it went up to 23 days for a split sec
[05:03] <inc_> didn't you sell evil to microsoft?
[05:03] <bitfoo> esd is evil :|
[05:03] <mebaran151> inc_, yeah
[05:03] <mebaran151> I sort of did
[05:03] <randabis> use polypaudio :)
[05:03] <hybrid> i hate these estimated time remaining
[05:03] <mebaran151> gave them the rights witha eula
[05:03] <mebaran151> my alsa doesnt seem to be working though
[05:03] <tritium> hybrid, :O
[05:04] <inc_> lol
[05:04] <mebaran151> because directed mplayer out it
[05:04] <inc_> try rebooting.. usually works for me
[05:04] <hybrid> lol
[05:04] <mebaran151> and it still makes no noice
[05:04] <mebaran151> I have rebooted about 50 times
[05:04] <bitfoo> hmm :|
[05:04] <hybrid> went do to 17 hr then tho lol
[05:04] <hybrid> whacked
[05:04] <bitfoo> did you disable sound server on startup
[05:04] <bitfoo> maybe try gstreamer-properties switched to also
[05:04] <hybrid> no wonder the debian sign also means CRAZY
[05:05] <bitfoo> mplayer -ao alsa ?
[05:05] <mebaran151> bitfoo
[05:05] <bitfoo> :(
[05:05] <mebaran151> nope
[05:05] <mebaran151> bitfoo
[05:05] <mebaran151> yep
[05:05] <AgenT> tritium: followed that, except i used a little more memory (have some to spare) and bypassed the network stuff
[05:05] <mebaran151> I did that
[05:05] <inc_> i too have issues with sound.. my cd player work.. listining to it now, but mp3 don't play
[05:05] <tritium> AgenT, oh...
[05:05] <mebaran151> mplayer -ao (an mp3)
[05:05] <bitfoo> inc_, what are you using to play mp3 :|
[05:05] <tritium> AgenT, I've only tried qemu with the LiveCD.
[05:05] <HrdwrBoB> mebaran151: mplayer -ao esd
[05:05] <tritium> AgenT, I can't get X to start, though.
[05:05] <inc_> that rythembox or xmms or mplayer
[05:05] <AgenT> tritium: any ideas? i also tried more than one hoary live cd.... one "official" and one daily
[05:06] <bitfoo> it dont play on xmms? :|
[05:06] <inc_> xmms and mplayer seem to freeze.. rythembox gives and error that it can't wriet to file
[05:06] <tritium> AgenT, no, I haven't seen qemu segfault
[05:06] <AgenT> tritium: errr... i didnt mean live cd i meant install cd above :)
[05:06] <hybrid> 49710 days omfg omfg that waz wierd
[05:06] <bitfoo> ok for xmms rightclick go to preferences and switch the output to esd :|
[05:06] <bitfoo> i think
[05:06] <bitfoo> :|
[05:06] <bitfoo> hybrid i had that happen before
[05:07] <tritium> hybrid, your CDs from shipit will arrive before that
[05:07] <mebaran151> I might just try a reinstall
[05:07] <hybrid> lol
[05:07] <inc_> well i went into gstreamer-properties and i get an error connecting to pipe when trying to use esd
[05:07] <bitfoo> when i startup sometimes it says "it has been 49710 days since your file system was checked"
[05:07] <bitfoo> :|
[05:07] <mike_> I heard that getupdates had been ported to Ubuntu and a release might be soon. Does anyone have any more information on that?
[05:07] <tritium> mebaran151, did you inspect any of the logs in /var/log
[05:07] <tritium> ?
[05:07] <AgenT> tritium: i also tried 2 live cd's and to tell you the truth it did not work for me... i think it froze at one point and the other gave me 640x480 desktop... but it did work on a different pc
[05:07] <mebaran151> tritium
[05:07] <mebaran151> yeah
[05:07] <mebaran151> dont see anything really alsa relatedc
[05:07] <mebaran151> it all says
[05:07] <mebaran151> alsa loaded
[05:07] <mebaran151> yeah
[05:07] <mebaran151> its good
[05:08] <Dreamer3> is ubuntu kernel source on the install CD?
[05:08] <tritium> mebaran151, esd is running for sure?
[05:08] <AgenT> tritium: what do you mean you used qemu with the live cd? how does that work? you mean qemu inside the live cd or do you mean you booted the live cd inside qemu... and if so, why?
[05:08] <farruinn> Dreamer3: I don't think any source packages are on the install cd
[05:08] <tritium> AgenT, I booted the LiveCD with qemu just to test out the new array-4
[05:09] <Dreamer3> farruinn: hmmmmmmmm
[05:09] <AgenT> tritium: ahhh.... okay :)
[05:09] <AgenT> tritium: out of curiousity, what version of qemu did you use?
[05:09] <tritium> AgenT, you're trying to install ubuntu on top of Gentoo?
[05:09] <inc_> bitfoo: know how to check to make sure esd is running
[05:09] <hybrid> what is array-4
[05:09] <farruinn> anyone use vlc to watch a divx movie? When I run vlc I get "Illegal instruction"
[05:09] <Dreamer3> yes, it is :)
[05:09] <tritium> AgenT, 0.6.1
[05:10] <tritium> ps aux | grep esd
[05:10] <farruinn> Dreamer3: the source is on the disc?
[05:10] <AgenT> tritium: im trying to install ubuntu inside qemu... qemu is installed in gentoo, yes :)
[05:10] <inc_> i get this Failed to construct test pipeline for 'ESD - Enlightenment Sound Daemon' in gstreamer properties
[05:10] <inc_> lol ps.. hmm that's one way hehe
[05:10] <mebaran151> inc_, run the command esd
[05:10] <mebaran151> if esd is on
[05:10] <Dreamer3> farruinn: for the kernel yes
[05:10] <AgenT> tritium: i also installed a dif os without trouble in qemu
[05:10] <mebaran151> it will complain you are trying to run it
[05:11] <randabis> hybrid it's the latest milestone release of hoary
[05:11] <inc_> it's not
[05:11] <z44k4> Any GRUB experts feel like helping me get my system dual-booting Ubuntu and Linux? :)
[05:11] <mebaran151> also
[05:11] <Dreamer3> farruinn: oh wait
[05:11] <Dreamer3> farruinn: maybe not
[05:11] <z44k4> I mean, Ubuntu and Windows? :)
[05:11] <mebaran151> heheh
[05:11] <mebaran151> where does windows rest
[05:11] <randabis> z44k4 www.ubuntuguide.org
[05:11] <z44k4> Damn, Freudian slip there.  I can't even SAY Windows. Hahaha
[05:11] <tritium> AgenT, how about installing in chroot?
[05:11] <mebaran151> and do you have to hdd
[05:11] <mebaran151> two
[05:11] <mebaran151> the guide is good though
[05:11] <z44k4> Ubuntu is on sda and Windows is on sdb.
[05:11] <mebaran151> I forgot about it
[05:11] <mebaran151> oh
[05:11] <mebaran151> same setup with me
[05:11] <inc_> $ esd
[05:11] <inc_> /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy
[05:12] <hybrid> hey yall i g2g
[05:12] <hybrid> ttyl
[05:12] <Dreamer3> just when i thought i might get DRI working tonight
[05:12] <inc_> cya hybrid
[05:12] <hybrid> later tritium
[05:12] <z44k4> Windows boots fine when it's the only drive connected, but when I connect the Ubuntu drive (as sda), I can't get GRUB to boot Windows off sdb.
[05:12] <AgenT> tritium: how would that work? how do you boot an install cd and have it install in chroot then have ubuntu boot like normal inside chroot?
[05:13] <mebaran151> ok
[05:13] <mebaran151> anyone know if I can pull some dbg from esd
[05:13] <mebaran151> I killed it
[05:13] <Dark_Kyo> how to share a ressources between two PC under ubuntu, it's possible via samba?
[05:13] <mebaran151> to see if it helps
[05:13] <tritium> AgenT, I'd have to sit down with some documentation on that one.
[05:13] <AgenT> z44k4: you may be using bad numbering in grub... i dont remember how it goes exactly but i do remember that for grub the first hd is 0 and the second 1 same as partitions... also, make sure you have the "first" hd as master and the second as slave
[05:13] <z44k4> Dark_Kyo: What resources?  Just file shares?  NFS might be a better choice maybe?
[05:13] <mebaran151> z44k4
[05:13] <mebaran151> you have to map it
[05:13] <Dark_Kyo> files shares only
[05:14] <tritium> AgenT, here's some info: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebootstrapChroot/view?searchterm=chroot
[05:14] <mebaran151> Windows hates being the second drive
[05:14] <AgenT> tritium: but you know it would work?
[05:14] <mebaran151> Any alsa experts here
[05:14] <AgenT> tritium: thanks
[05:14] <mebaran151> or else I am just going to pull a reinstall
[05:14] <tritium> AgenT, I don't know if I'll bet anything on it ;)
[05:14] <gobeavs> whats your prob mebaran?
[05:14] <z44k4> mebaran151: Yeah, I figured that was the problem.  Windows wants to be the first drive...
[05:14] <Dreamer3> hmm
[05:14] <farruinn> Dreamer3: apt-get source -b linux-kernel?
[05:14] <mebaran151> grub lets you map em
[05:14] <bretzel> no succuess!
[05:14] <Dark_Kyo> z44k4, i can use NFS to perform this?
[05:15] <tritium> bretzel, okay, what does your /var/log/Xorg.0.log say?
[05:15] <mebaran151> so that windows is tricked to think drive is two and drive two is one
[05:15] <mebaran151> that sort of thin
[05:15] <mebaran151> g
[05:15] <tritium> look for any errors or warnings
[05:15] <mebaran151> anyway
[05:15] <mebaran151> alsa suddenly began not to work
[05:15] <mebaran151> out of the blue
[05:15] <bretzel> tritrium: wait ...
[05:15] <mebaran151> checked my mixer
[05:15] <z44k4> Dark_Kyo: I don't know if NFS or Samba is the better choice if every system is Linux.  I tend to think NFS but who knows.  Samba would be convenient if you have Windows machines that want to connect as well.
[05:15] <mebaran151> check my speakers
[05:15] <tritium> mebaran151 is right.  grub has a remapping function
[05:15] <mebaran151> it is a little resident program
[05:15] <mebaran151> that is sometimes treated like a virus
[05:15] <tritium> mebaran151, did you say "check baby check, baby one two..."?
[05:16] <mebaran151> tritium, no
[05:16] <tritium> because you have to do that
[05:16] <z44k4> mebaran151: I'm in my Windows system at the moment so can't look to be sure.  But I think there is a device.map file in my grub directory with hd0 set to /dev/sda and hd1 set to /dev/sdb.  Is that what I want to modify?
[05:16] <mebaran151> no
[05:16] <mebaran151> definitely not
[05:16] <mebaran151> you want to set it up as so
[05:16] <chillywilly> anyone know if hoary's Xorg will work with a ProSavage DDR chip?
[05:16] <mebaran151> go to # flood
[05:16] <mebaran151> I am going to just post my grub conf
[05:16] <mebaran151> or actually
[05:16] <chillywilly> and whether I can get DRI going ;)
[05:16] <mebaran151> let me just paste the 3 lines here
[05:16] <z44k4> mebaran151: Your choice. ;)
[05:17] <chillywilly> that is what is on my work machine...been itching to upgrade to Ubuntu at work from Debian sid :)
[05:17] <mebaran151> title           Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
[05:17] <mebaran151> root            (hd1,0)
[05:17] <mebaran151> map             (hd0) (hd1)
[05:17] <mebaran151> map             (hd1) (hd0)
[05:17] <mebaran151> makeactive
[05:17] <mebaran151> chainloader     +1
[05:17] <mebaran151> that is how it should look
[05:17] <mebaran151> sorry for the flood
[05:17] <chillywilly> *thwap*
[05:17] <z44k4> Thanks mebaran151.  Okay, that's mostly how mine looks except I'm missing the map lines.  So, I'll add those and see what happens. :)
[05:18] <mebaran151> yeah
[05:18] <mebaran151> the map lines fix alot
[05:18] <bretzel> tritium: strange: no (EE) in log,
[05:18] <mebaran151> just dont let it kill that program
[05:18] <mebaran151> if you let it
[05:18] <tritium> bretzel, any insights?
[05:18] <mebaran151> you get some serious BSOD
[05:18] <inc_> so anyone know how to get esd running?
[05:18] <mebaran151> I mean BSOD hardcore
[05:18] <mebaran151> inc_, did you type esd
[05:18] <tritium> mebaran151, what program?
[05:18] <mebaran151> as root
[05:18] <imnes> Is there any way to edit menu's in Hoary?
[05:18] <mebaran151> tritium
[05:18] <mebaran151> if you have McAffee
[05:18] <farruinn> mebaran151: would it be possible for you to use enter less? ;)
[05:19] <mebaran151> it will think grub is a resident
[05:19] <bretzel> tritium: nothing ... (II) NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA 3D Acceleration Architecture Initialized
[05:19] <bretzel> (II) NVIDIA(0): Using the NVIDIA 2D acceleration architecture
[05:19] <bretzel> (==) NVIDIA(0): Backing store disabled
[05:19] <mebaran151> farruinn, sorry bad habit
[05:19] <bretzel> and ... last line: (II) Initializing extension GLX
[05:19] <mebaran151> Mcaffee will then kill grub
[05:19] <tritium> I see
[05:19] <inc_> yea got this error /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy
[05:19] <z44k4> Thanks, mebaran.  I'll report back if I can get into freenode from lostirc or something.
[05:19] <tritium> inc_, what does "lsof /dev/dsp" say?
[05:20] <z44k4> Before I go, what's a good IRC client available in Hoary?  I'll just install it after I boot... :)
[05:20] <inc_> nothin
[05:20] <tritium> bretzel, does X not start?
[05:20] <mebaran151> z44k4, xchat
[05:20] <mebaran151> is sexy
[05:20] <mebaran151> hehe
[05:20] <z44k4> Thanks again.  BBL.
[05:20] <mebaran151> Damnit
[05:20] <inc_> i use gaim
[05:20] <mebaran151> I am just going to do a reinstall
[05:20] <bretzel> tritium: no - what is libfbmmx ???
[05:20] <mebaran151> I like my sound
[05:21] <mebaran151> it is important
[05:21] <mebaran151> besides I have a whole bunch of useless programming that has piled up here
[05:21] <mebaran151> a good time to do a format
[05:21] <mebaran151> clean slate
[05:21] <tritium> bretzel, sounds like a library for framebuffers to use MultiMedia eXtensions
[05:21] <mebaran151> Dreamer3, why do you keep sighing
[05:21] <inc_>  tritium: nothing comes up in lsof
[05:21] <tritium> inc_, hmm...
[05:21] <tritium> mebaran151, sorry!
[05:22] <bretzel> tritium: oh! but no mention execpted module "extention" ??
[05:22] <mebaran151> tritium
[05:22] <mebaran151> hmm
[05:22] <mebaran151> looks like esd is being bad
[05:22] <tritium> yes
[05:22] <tritium> bretzel, what?
[05:22] <mebaran151> nope, skilling esd did nothing
[05:22] <Dreamer3_> mebaran151: because i have to download the source to the kernel before i can build DRI
[05:22] <mebaran151> nuts
[05:22] <bretzel> and X doesn't start -- well, the screen blanks and no returns
[05:23] <tritium> Dreamer3, why are you going to compile?
[05:23] <Dreamer3_> tritium: i have to have the kernel source to build DRI modules for my savage video card
[05:27] <Dreamer3_> tritium: you've build DRI before?
[05:27] <tritium> Holy Smokin' Jesus
[05:27] <BiteMeBill> WOW
[05:27] <tritium> Dreamer3, no, but other modules, e.g. pcmcia-cs, lirc, etc.
[05:27] <inc_> what was that
[05:27] <flowerss> nothing like network problems with irc
[05:28] <tritium> inc_, it was a disturbance in the matrix ;_)
[05:28] <inc_> hehe
[05:28] <inc_> i just tpe esd from commandl ine right? i get this /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy
[05:28] <tritium> Dreamer3, you might want build-essential
[05:29] <Dreamer3_> tritium: i'll try that next if i can't compile :)
[05:29] <Dreamer3_> tritium: i'm still fearful i'll need a full kernel :)
[05:29] <tritium> nah
[05:31] <Dreamer3_> wow, going my 3rd night without heat
[05:31] <Dreamer3_> not so bad once you get used to it
[05:31] <inc_> move to FL it's a cool 75 degree
[05:31] <Dreamer3_> inc_: 46 degress here :)
[05:31] <BiteMeBill> Dreamer3: What happened in the music city?
[05:31] <Dreamer3_> inc_: they were supposed to bring me more fuel oil today, but no show
[05:31] <flowerss> Dreamer3_ where are you located?
[05:31] <Dreamer3_> flowerss: southern indiana
[05:31] <Dreamer3_> BiteMeBill: music city?
[05:31] <flowerss> man, if we had no heat the pipes would freeze, and all the old people and babies would die over night.
[05:31] <inc_> ouch... sounds expensive
[05:31] <BiteMeBill> Dreamer3: I thought your location was Nashville Ten.
[05:31] <tritium> Dreamer3, where?
[05:31] <inc_> got firewood? or a fireplace to burn it
[05:32] <Dreamer3_> BiteMeBill: nope, sprints host names are just weird :)
[05:32] <tritium> Dreamer3, I'm in West Lafayette for the next 6 months
[05:32] <Dreamer3_> tritium: i'm in a little unheard of town called marengo
[05:32] <BiteMeBill> Dreamer3: True...  I'm on their DSL.
[05:32] <tritium> Dreamer3, hello, neighbor
[05:32] <Dreamer3_> tritium: hello
[05:33] <Guardiann> 46 deg damm a heat wave there
[05:33] <Dreamer3_> my ubuntu felt really fast yesterday, but feels kinda laggy today
[05:33] <Dreamer3_> and i don't know why it would be any different
[05:33] <Dethread> is there a way to burn audio cds using the nautilus-cd-burner?
[05:33] <flowerss> I can't connect to any windows shares
[05:33] <HrdwrBoB> Dethread: no
[05:33] <Dethread> :(
[05:33] <Dreamer3_> Guardiann: yep :) it was 30 last night... hot shower in the morning never felt so good
[05:33] <Dethread> ok, thanks
[05:33] <tritium> inc_, I can't think of anything else atm
[05:33] <HrdwrBoB> Dethread: give it a day or two
[05:34] <tritium> Dethread, or try graveman or k3b
[05:34] <HrdwrBoB> Dethread: I'm packaging a program to do that
[05:34] <Guardiann> its 23 here at the moment
[05:34] <tritium> HrdwrBoB, days?  really?
[05:34] <Dethread> k3b depends on too much KDE stuff :)
[05:34] <tritium> Dethread, I agree!
[05:34] <inc_> bummer
[05:34] <flowerss> dreamer3_ 30 F is like short sleeve shirt weather here damn near.
[05:34] <randabis> gnomebaker is good too
[05:34] <Dethread> alright, I'll try one of those. thanks guys
[05:34] <Dreamer3_> flowerss: *laughs* yeah, whatever
[05:34] <inc_> brb
[05:34] <Dreamer3_> tritium: i'll have those headers soon
[05:35] <tritium> okay
[05:35] <flowerss> Dreamer3_ here it's about -25 C, whatever that is in F, I dunno.
[05:35] <Guardiann> flowerss where are you at
[05:35] <flowerss> Guardiann, balmy Edmonton
[05:36] <Dreamer3_> flowerss: i think i'd freeze to death if i was there withotu heat
[05:36] <farruinn> it is an unusually warm 0 C here
[05:36] <flowerss> dreamer3_ for sure.
[05:36] <Guardiann> Barrie here
[05:39] <Dreamer3_> tritium: the moment of truth
[05:39] <tritium> drum roll...
[05:39] <inc_>  back
[05:39] <Dethread> hm, graveman is not in the warty repositories :(
[05:40] <tritium> Dethread, oh...
[05:40] <Dethread> I'll get it from Debian sid ;)
[05:40] <tritium> Dethread, it's in Hoary too
[05:40] <Dethread> ah, hoary, here I come, then
[05:40] <johann> does someone here recognize the problem Im having. If I turn off my laptop and the power cord is not plugged then it turns off fine. If the power cord is plugged in then it goes down for a shutdown, ends by calling acpi and reboots
[05:42] <Dreamer3_> tritium: amazing
[05:42] <tritium> Dreamer3, gee, you're 180 miles away
[05:42] <tritium> did it work?
[05:42] <Dreamer3_> tritium: want to come hang out *laughs*
[05:42] <Dreamer3_> tritium: it's compiling
[05:42] <tritium> excellent
[05:43] <Dreamer3_> tritium: taking a long time seems
[05:43] <Dreamer3_> but compiling
[05:43] <dreamwave> anyone here use qtparted to resize an ntfs partition?
[05:43] <tritium> dreamer, yes, very unsuccessfully ;)
[05:43] <dr_willis> ive used it in the past and its worked.
[05:43] <dreamwave> that's what i was afraid of
[05:43] <Dethread> tritium, now...when trying to install graveman from hoary, it also wants to update/install a bunch of packages...is this safe to do with me running warty?
[05:43] <dr_willis> I think you want to be sure to defrag the ntfs befor hand..
[05:43] <dreamwave> hmmm.
[05:43] <dr_willis> and scandisk it later..
[05:43] <dreamwave> definitely
[05:43] <farruinn> Dethread: heh, in a word, no =)
[05:43] <dr_willis> or course backup  befor hand also.
[05:43] <dr_willis> :P
[05:44] <Dethread> :(
[05:44] <dreamwave> :)
[05:44] <tritium> Dethread, depends on your level of comfort with using Hoary packages.
[05:44] <Dreamer3_> tritium: well, brb, seeing if X.org works :)
[05:44] <Dreamer3_> AFK
[05:44] <tritium> ok
[05:44] <farruinn> Dethread: I tried a mixed system and had mixed results
[05:44] <Dethread> hmm...I'd better not do it then...
[05:44] <dreamwave> i'm happy with the liveCD so i'm very close to putting on the HD all together.
[05:44] <tritium> Dethread, apt-get source --build it
[05:45] <farruinn> Dethread: ^^^^ that's what I do for hoary stuff
[05:45] <Dethread> apt-get source graveman --build ??
[05:46] <farruinn> it will download the ubuntu sources for the package then build it against your warty libraries
[05:46] <farruinn> at least that's my understanding
[05:46] <Dethread> ah, neat....
[05:46] <Dethread> i'll try that
[05:46] <tritium> Dethread, you sometimes need some build dependencies too
[05:46] <Dethread> hmm
[05:46] <farruinn> apt-get build-dep
[05:46] <tritium> so if it doesn't work, don't despair
[05:46] <Dethread> but it won't upgrade packages, right?
[05:47] <tritium> Dethread, no, you'll be building a Warty package
[05:48] <Dethread> when doing "apt-get build-dep graveman" it again tries to install/upgrade a bunch of things...I guess there's no way around it
[05:49] <dreamwave> Dethread, i seem to recall there was a way to have it ignore deps
[05:49] <tritium> dreamwave, it won't build without them
[05:49] <dreamwave> oh.  building
[05:49] <gobeavs> isnt the gstreamer configuration tool gstreamer-settings?
[05:50] <gobeavs> because my hoary install doesn't have it
[05:50] <tritium> Dethread, try to install those same packages from warty
[05:50] <Dethread> good idea
[05:50] <tritium> Dethread, do an "apt-get build-dep graveman -s" to simulate the action
[05:50] <Dreamer3_> ok
[05:50] <tritium> then, install those packages listed
[05:51] <DAC1138> how do i add modprobe to an init script? i want to modprobe something before GDM loads
[05:51] <tritium> (from Warty).
[05:51] <shilbert> Hallo
[05:51] <tritium> DAC1138, why not add the module to /etc/modules?
[05:51] <Dreamer3_> on debian i can resize a window, disconnect from screen and reconnect and irssi will know about the new size... on ubunut i have to type /resize... what am i missing?
[05:51] <DAC1138> tritium, how do i do that?
[05:52] <shilbert> I don't suppose anyone knows why dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg isn't changing my x.org file? :)
[05:52] <tritium> DAC1138, list the modules you want modprobed in /etc/modules
[05:52] <shilbert> err xorg.conf file
[05:52] <Dreamer3_> tritium: any idea?
[05:52] <tritium> shilbert, the md5sum has probably changed
[05:52] <randabis> shilbert, did you by chance ever edit the file manually?
[05:52] <tritium> Dreamer3_, don't know about that.
[05:53] <shilbert> Yeah, I did. I saw the thing about making a .md5sum file, but I can't get it to work
[05:53] <DAC1138> tritium, so just edit (with vi or gedit) the /etc/modules file, and add the thing i want to modprobe?
[05:53] <shilbert> Where's it look for it?
[05:53] <tritium> DAC1138, yes.  use sudo
[05:53] <DAC1138> tritium, already done, thanks
[05:53] <DAC1138> ill see if it worked next reboot
[05:53] <tritium> DAC1138, ::)
[05:53] <tritium> oops, four eyes!
[05:54] <randabis> mutant!
[05:54] <tritium> heh
[05:54] <randabis> you clorinated the gene pool :p
[05:54] <tritium> I must be more radioactive than I thought!
[05:55] <tritium> shilbert, say again?
[05:55] <shilbert> Well, you're supposed to use md5sum and make a xorg.conf.md5sum file right?
[05:55] <shilbert> To make dpkg-reconfigure actually update your config file, I mean.
[05:56] <tritium> yes
[05:56] <tritium> if you've edited it
[05:56] <shilbert> So what directory should it go in?
[05:56] <shilbert> (yeah, I have)
[05:56] <tritium> /var/lib/xfree86
[05:56] <shilbert> alright
[05:56] <tritium> yes, even xorg
[05:56] <shilbert> I think I tried that once but I will try again
[05:56] <shilbert> yeah, I was wondering about that :P
[05:57] <tritium> I think daniels fixed the instructions at the top of /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:57] <DAC1138> ubuntu is all over the linux reviews today
[05:57] <shilbert> see, my xorg.conf was originally from xorgconfig
[05:58] <tritium> I see
[05:58] <nomasteryoda> ubuntu is too cool
[05:58] <DAC1138> is it okay to post links here?
[05:58] <tritium> sure
[05:58] <DAC1138> http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20050207#1
[05:58] <DAC1138> wish i was at that school
[05:58] <randabis> yeah I read that yesterday :)
[05:58] <DAC1138> we have windows PCs still, and only a few fual G5 macs
[05:58] <gobeavs> In hoary, should our output sound system be ALSA, arts, OSS, or what!?
[05:58] <tritium> esd
[05:58] <DAC1138> at my old school, we used fedora core 2
[05:59] <DAC1138> im sure the teacher is considering ubuntu about now
[05:59] <tritium> which school?
[05:59] <gobeavs> tritium: but XMMS, Cedega, and audacity dont like esd :(
[05:59] <tritium> gobeavs, XMMS can use esd just fine
[05:59] <tritium> don't know about the others
[05:59] <shilbert> alright, it worked
[06:00] <shilbert> wonder why it didn't work last time
[06:00] <tritium> shilbert, yay
[06:00] <tritium> gobeavs, are you from Oregon State?
[06:00] <gobeavs> tritium: well, it doesn't on mine....it freezes whenever I try to use it. I had problems with it after switching to KDE, then I just switched to arts...but now I'm back in gnome with hoary, and it doesn't work
[06:00] <gobeavs> I'm not from OSU, but I love them
[06:00] <shilbert> It's kind of funny, I spent several hours trying to get xorg to use the fglrx drivers properly (turned out I had DRI commented out), and now I had trouble getting it to switch back to the vanilla ati driver (I want to see if the composite stuff is pretty)
[06:00] <gobeavs> I'm from the area
[06:01] <shilbert> anyway, brb, restarting X and so on
[06:01] <goldfish_> hhm
[06:01] <tritium> gobeavs, cool
[06:01] <gobeavs> tritium, you from around here?
[06:01] <ProgramGeek> "Someone already said that 8 seconds ago"
[06:01] <ProgramGeek> Grrr...
[06:01] <tritium> gobeavs, no, used to live in Seattle.  OSU beat my alma mater in the bowl game this year.  :(
[06:01] <gobeavs> :P
[06:02] <tritium> they were too fast for us
[06:02] <tritium> good team
[06:02] <gobeavs> we hope next year will be better
[06:03] <gobeavs> we want to go back to the glory days of simonton and jonathon smith
[06:03] <gobeavs> :D
[06:03] <shilbert> hrm
[06:03] <tritium> gobeavs, we do too, now that we got Charlie Weis from the N.E. Patriots :)
[06:03] <shilbert> well that's no good
[06:03] <shilbert> hangs or freezes or something on normal ati driver :/
[06:04] <gobeavs> Yeah, Weis should do them some good :D
[06:04] <z44k4> What the frack does this mean and can I fix it?     W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.nerim.net unstable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907
[06:04] <tritium> gobeavs, I think we're due nat.'l champ. #12 and Heisman tropy #8
[06:04] <tritium> trophy
[06:05] <gobeavs> tritium: I can't believe you fired willingham
[06:05] <gobeavs> tritium: I thought he was pretty good, a victim of circumstances
[06:05] <tritium> gobeavs, I didn't do it!  I really respected him!
[06:05] <mpq> okay, I'm on ubuntu again
[06:05] <tritium> mpq, welcome back
[06:05] <tritium> gobeavs, I agree.
[06:05] <Dreamer3_> hmmmmmmmmm
[06:05] <shilbert> that reminds me, is there a nicer way to get out of GDM into a normal console besides actually killing it? :P
[06:05] <randabis> z44k4, it's not a big deal, but it means that that source is not authenicated
[06:05] <HrdwrBoB> shilbert: c-a-F1
[06:06] <tritium> shilbert, Ctrl-Alt-F1, log in, /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[06:06] <randabis> you "can" get it authenticated, but you don't have to
[06:06] <shilbert> thanks
[06:06] <tritium> shilbert, or restart, if you want to restart it
[06:06] <shilbert> I think I magically froze something else now
[06:06] <tritium> check /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[06:06] <shilbert> I'm going back to my old config :/
[06:06] <tritium> gobeavs, good luck to you and your team :)
[06:07] <mpq> is there a way to safely partition a NTFS drive?
[06:07] <z44k4> randabis: Okay, so I should still be able to install from that repository?  There's a package I'm trying to install that I thought was available on that repository but it's not being found.
[06:07] <tritium> mpq, we talked about that earlier, right?
[06:07] <mpq> I forgot
[06:07] <tritium> you're kidding, right?
[06:07] <randabis> z44k4, yeah you shouldn't have a problem...what package are you looking for?
[06:08] <z44k4> Well, initially I was trying to install transcode.  It's hanging on one of it's dependencies.
[06:08] <shilbert> ctrl+alt+f7 gets back into X?
[06:08] <mpq> I forgot how to do whatever
[06:09] <tritium> shilbert, yes, if you restarted it
[06:09] <shilbert> alrighty
[06:09] <mpq> I still don't have a clue what I'm doing...
[06:09] <tritium> mpq, you're using the LiveCD right now?
[06:09] <shilbert> I wonder when fglrx will work with composite extensions
[06:09] <nomasteryoda> tritium, hes baaaakkk
[06:09] <mpq> yeah, I still don't know how to install it yet
[06:10] <tritium> nomasteryoda, time for another beer?
[06:10] <randabis> shilbert, when ati gets off their ass and adds support
[06:10] <nomasteryoda> tritium, or a nap
[06:10] <nomasteryoda> lol
[06:10] <shilbert> heheh
[06:10] <tritium> it is after midnight here.  Almost time for bed...
[06:10] <tritium> cheers
[06:10] <nomasteryoda> mpg, read the wiki
[06:10] <mpq> it's q
[06:10] <mpq> not g
[06:10] <nomasteryoda> randabis, thanks
[06:10] <randabis> np
[06:10] <nomasteryoda> oops
[06:10] <Cube-ness> hey, if you add a NIC to an existing ubuntu installed computer, how can you make it try to detect NICs like during the install?
[06:11] <nomasteryoda> my other chat window is mwg
[06:11] <z44k4> randabis:  Looks like libavifile-0.7c102 is what I'm needing for transcode.
[06:11] <mpq> the "how to install" page didn't go anywhere
[06:11] <shilbert> I wonder if composite will use software rendering if I use a vesa driver
[06:11] <tritium> Cube-ness, it should be detected.  You'll want to configure it, however.
[06:11] <randabis> I'm not familiar with that z44k4 so I dunno
[06:11] <crimsun> shilbert: yes.
[06:12] <Cube-ness> tritium, how?
[06:12] <lunitik> z44k4: why do you want transcode?
[06:12] <tritium> Cube-ness, Computer->Administration->Networking is one way
[06:12] <farruinn> mpq: congratulations, you're the hardest person to help in the world ;)
[06:12] <tritium> Cube-ness, editing /etc/network/interfaces is another
[06:13] <tritium> mpq, we're trying to help, but you didn't even take any notes on what we suggested?
[06:13] <z44k4> lunitik: I've been doing my XviD encoding under Windows up until now.  Mostly Tivo-extracted video.
[06:13] <nomasteryoda> mpq, try reading this http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/WindowsDualBootHowTo/view?searchterm=partition
[06:13] <tritium> mpq, did you even _try_ anything we suggested?
[06:13] <randabis> hoenstly, I think if mpq can't figure this much out, there is no way he's going to be able to even install ubuntu
[06:13] <randabis> honestly even
[06:14] <nomasteryoda> cheers mates! lol
[06:14] <nomasteryoda> true
[06:14] <randabis> not trying to be a troll or anything...
[06:14] <nomasteryoda> got my motors running ... lol
[06:14] <shilbert> Yay, I've got uber-slow software rendered compositing :)
[06:14] <tritium> mpq, you will have to be willing to try a few things, even if they're not "easy"
[06:14] <nomasteryoda> boats in the water
[06:14] <nomasteryoda> =)
[06:15] <mpq> I feel so stupid
[06:15] <lunitik> z44k4: mencoder-386 isn't what you want? I've never had a use for transcode, but keep seeing it come up is why I ask...
[06:15] <tritium> mpq, no
[06:15] <mpq> I feel like an aoler
[06:15] <tritium> mpq, we understand that you're learning
[06:15] <nomasteryoda> mpq, LOL
[06:15] <Dreamer3_> ok, i want a browser that loads faster than firefox
[06:15] <nomasteryoda> aoler
[06:15] <shilbert> this is pretty sexy actually
[06:15] <Dreamer3_> this is ridiculous
[06:15] <shilbert> despite being about eight frames per second when I move windows
[06:15] <z44k4> lunitik: No idea what I need.  transcode was the first thing I found when I started Googling for solutions to XviD encoding on Linux. :)
[06:15] <nomasteryoda> Dreamer3_, links or lynx
[06:15] <nomasteryoda> =)
[06:15] <randabis> yeah we're willing to walk you through as much as we can, but you're going to actually have to try some things we suggest :p
[06:15] <Dreamer3_> nomasteryoda: *laughs* GUI preferrable :)
[06:16] <nomasteryoda> dillo
[06:16] <nomasteryoda> limited, but fast
[06:16] <tritium> mpq, at the very minimum, you're going to need to download and burn to CD a utility
[06:16] <nomasteryoda> opera is faster
[06:16] <nomasteryoda> than firefox
[06:16] <randabis> Dreamer3_, well, epiphany might be up your alley too
[06:16] <Dreamer3_> nomasteryoda: doesn't support styles, virtuall useless :)
[06:16] <randabis> if you were on hoary I'd suggest galeon
[06:16] <tritium> mpq, and, if you don't want to backup your data, that's your choice, but you have to be prepared for the possibility of data loss
[06:16] <Dreamer3_> randabis: i've used it before... it just starts moz/firefox, doubt it's much faster
[06:16] <z44k4> lunitik: Looks like mencoder will install, so I guess I'll start looking at that instead. :)
[06:16] <Dreamer3_> randabis: can't get galeon on warty?
[06:17] <randabis> there isn't a package for it
[06:17] <farruinn> Dreamer3_: build it
[06:17] <johann> if I shut down my computer with the power cord plugged in the computer ends by calling acpi off and reboots, but this doesnt happen when the computer is running on battery. Does anyone know how to fix this
[06:17] <z44k4> I just noticed that Synaptic isn't obeying my current GTK theme.  Is that normal?
[06:17] <tritium> johann, search the wiki for "acpi".  I think I saw a page about that.
[06:17] <mpq> I need to start over
[06:18] <randabis> z44k4, yes
[06:18] <tritium> Tempura, why are you going to start over?
[06:18] <randabis> it uses root's theme iirc since it is activated with gksudo
[06:18] <Tempura> because mpq is impossible
[06:18] <johann> ok thanks
[06:18] <z44k4> randabis: Doh.  That makes sense I guess.  Still ugly anyhow. :)
[06:18] <tritium> Tempura, so, are you going to download a CD image and burn it to CD?
[06:19] <Tempura> yes
[06:19] <Tempura> but I need to know what to download
[06:19] <Tempura> does it matter that I'm on a live cd?
[06:19] <shilbert> let's see what X is choking on now...
[06:19] <tritium> Tempura, you have a choice.
[06:19] <Tempura> can I safely take out the cd?
[06:20] <lunitik> Tempura: how old are you? seem young...
[06:20] <tritium> This 110 MB image was my recommedation: http://www.sysresccd.org/
[06:20] <Tempura> almost 17
[06:20] <tritium> Tempura, but you can also use knoppix (~700 MB), or somebody suggested http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/bootitng.html
[06:20] <lunitik> Tempura: you really should try to figure out some of this stuff yourself... trial and error will allow you to retain info.
[06:21] <Dreamer3_> is opera in non-free?
[06:21] <lunitik> s/allow/help/
[06:21] <lunitik> Dreamer3_: yes
[06:21] <tritium> Tempura, please write those down
[06:21] <Tempura> it's kind of hard when a possible error is formatting the hard drive
[06:21] <lunitik> ahh.. it is... but its not in an Ubuntu repo...
[06:21] <tritium> Tempura, that's why we recommend backups
[06:21] <randabis> opera has ads :/
[06:21] <randabis> 7.54
[06:21] <randabis> I got the static deb
[06:21] <imnes> Well if you like it, buy a copy and turn off ads ;)
[06:22] <randabis> true enough
[06:22] <Tempura> ok... I should really do this on windows
[06:22] <randabis> poor kid
[06:22] <Dreamer3_> randabis: it should be in multi-verse, right?
[06:22] <tritium> hard to even help him
[06:22] <shilbert> oh woot, I think it's working
[06:22] <randabis> Dreamer3_, I don't think it is even in the ubuntu repos
[06:22] <Dreamer3_> randabis: i see
[06:23] <randabis> I downloaded the deb from their site
[06:23] <randabis> I'm about to check it out
[06:23] <lunitik> Dreamer3_: wait... its really there? hah... nothing listed in 'show' though... 'apt-cache search opera' returns like 4353637 things...
[06:23] <Dreamer3_> randabis: yeah, i'm on it now
[06:23] <randabis> see if the deb even works
[06:23] <shilbert> 'ati' driver doesn't like specifying VideoRAM
[06:23] <Dreamer3_> randabis: good point :)
[06:23] <Dreamer3_> randabis: let me know
[06:23] <Dreamer3_> Reformed: i won't bother if it doesn't
[06:23] <Dreamer3_> randabis: if it's mostly static it should thoguh
[06:24] <shilbert> Great, it's at least a little faster than composites on the vesa driver ^_^
[06:24] <randabis> it works dreamer
[06:24] <imnes> Yeah it works I've installed it
[06:24] <shilbert> still kind of slow though :|
[06:24] <mpq> okay, I'm downloading knoppix
[06:25] <mpq> msg nickserv identify 1mp399ab13
[06:25] <mpq> shit
[06:25] <tritium> poor guy
[06:25] <lunitik> ooo,.... its like ping on crack   8)
[06:25] <nomasteryoda> mpq, lol
[06:25] <nomasteryoda> i have done that too
[06:26] <tritium> we need to be patient with him
[06:26] <nomasteryoda> yes
[06:26] <nomasteryoda> time to put away the mickey hats
[06:26] <Dreamer3_> randabis: fast?
[06:26] <tritium> I feel bad for the kid
[06:26] <nomasteryoda> me too
[06:26] <nomasteryoda> been there
[06:26] <nomasteryoda> long time ago
[06:26] <Tempura> well that may have been the stupidest thing I've done today
[06:26] <tritium> yeah
[06:26] <tritium> no, not you, Tempura
[06:27] <Tempura> yeah, mpq...
[06:27] <Dreamer3_> anyway to turn off full window dragging in gnome?
[06:27] <nomasteryoda> Tempura, man you move up a notch or 3
[06:27] <tritium> Tempura, no, I meant that I wasn't agreeing with your statement.
[06:28] <tritium> Tempura, don't worry, we've all done stuff like that
[06:28] <Tempura> I didn't say you did
[06:28] <imnes> Dreamer3_ I don't think you can do that.
[06:28] <tritium> Tempura, I didn't want you to think that, though.
[06:28] <Dreamer3_> imnes: sheesh, it's trying to drive me back to xfce
[06:28] <Tempura> I'm downloading knoppix now
[06:28] <Tempura> but it's taking a while
[06:28] <tritium> Tempura, good.
[06:28] <shilbert> I don't suppose anyone knows if it's possible to get the same icon theme firefox has on windows?
[06:28] <Dreamer3_> imnes: i've tried to make my gnome look like xfce, but no luck :)
[06:28] <shilbert> The little gnome house icon is bothering me
[06:28] <imnes> hehe
[06:29] <tritium> Tempura, that's why you might reconsider the other 2 options.
[06:29] <tritium> They're around 110 MB
[06:29] <tritium> shilbert, in firefox?
[06:29] <imnes> Dreamer3_ The new slackware came out and I didn't really like the announcement as a gnome user.
[06:29] <shilbert> yep
[06:29] <randabis> Dreamer3_, it loads very fast :)
[06:29] <tritium> shilbert, that's supposed to be getting fixed.
[06:29] <lunitik> shilbert: warty? or hoary? they changed the default again   :/
[06:29] <Dreamer3_> imnes: what announcement?
[06:29] <shilbert> hoary
[06:30] <lunitik> Dreamer3_: they dropped gnome
[06:30] <lunitik> shilbert: try the 'gnome-fx' theme
[06:30] <Dreamer3_> lunitik: IE, a new security hole every day... Firefox, new icon set every release
[06:30] <imnes> "Including the two most advanced desktop environments, KDE and XFCE"
[06:30] <imnes> I think the next sentence was "Also includes Gnome 2.6"
[06:30] <shilbert> will that actually pull icons from my gnome icon theme?
[06:30] <randabis> slack 10.1?
[06:30] <imnes> http://www.slackware.com/announce/10.1.php
[06:30] <Dreamer3_> lunitik: interesting
[06:31] <tritium> Tempura, I'm not going to be able to stay much longer.
[06:31] <Tempura> is it possible to create partitions while in windows?
[06:31] <randabis> opera seems to load pages VERY slowly
[06:32] <Dreamer3_> lunitik: gnome is still included
[06:32] <lunitik> Dreamer3_: ahh... my mistake... it won't be for long though apparently...
[06:32] <tritium> The default firefox theme should be restored in a future fix to firefox
[06:32] <imnes> Dreamer3_ there was talk about scrapping gnome in the next release of Slackare, apaprently the maintainer Pat doesn't like gnome and doesn't like having to build it.
[06:32] <lunitik> They want to drop support and just have people use Dropline apparently...
[06:32] <randabis> I agree
[06:32] <tritium> lunitik, thom said it was being fixed...
[06:32] <stuNNed> Tempura: um ya with something like parition magic but i've had bad luck with it and ntfs
[06:33] <shilbert> tritium: is there anything I can do to get it back now?
[06:33] <shilbert> (that doesn't involve too much work :P)
[06:33] <tritium> shilbert, not that I'm aware of.
[06:33] <Dreamer3_> imnes: wel, that'd be his call :)
[06:33] <Dreamer3_> imnes: they have xfce ;-)
[06:33] <lunitik> tritium: you meant to send that to me? if so, what was fixed?
[06:33] <farruinn> shilbert: sudo apt-get remove --purge mozilla-firefox ; apt-get install mozilla-firefox?
[06:33] <Dreamer3_> i could SO use XTerminal (xfce) all day long if i cold dynamically resize fonts like gnome
[06:33] <tritium> lunitik, that dropline replaced the default theme
[06:34] <lmurillo> I have a problem on my user is able to log in without any problems, another user gets an error if the file .xsessions exists, saying that it can't find the command fluxbox, the line in the .xsessions file is [exec]  fluxbox
[06:34] <lmurillo> That's the same file I have and I can log in without any problems. Can someone help me :(
[06:34] <crimsun> Dreamer3_: you can dynamically resize them.
[06:34] <imnes> Dreamer3_ I do like xfce but I've gotten use to the new gnome features too much to leave :)
[06:34] <lunitik> tritium: huh? Dropline is a Gnome implementation for Slack...
[06:34] <Anubis> I borked my boot dir so I reinstalled
[06:34] <imnes> I guess I could just run nautilus on it and keep most of them?
[06:34] <shilbert> lunitik: I'll try that
[06:34] <Dreamer3_> crimsun: like ctrl + and ctrl -?
[06:34] <Anubis> everything has gone great
[06:34] <Dreamer3_> crimsun: cause i sure missed that if you can
[06:34] <Anubis> saw some new things I missed
[06:34] <Dreamer3_> imnes: what new gnome features?
[06:34] <Anubis> but the only thing thats odd
[06:34] <Anubis> (hoary)
[06:35] <lmurillo> btw, I'm using Ubuntu Hoary
[06:35] <Anubis> is that I have lost fake transpernecies
[06:35] <Dreamer3_> crimsun: i sweat i tried it
[06:35] <crimsun> Dreamer3_: not sure about the keyboard shortcuts (at work), but you can change the current profile's settings, and they'll be applied
[06:35] <randabis> blah...opera is kinda nice, but pages load SLOWLY
[06:35] <Dreamer3_> crimsun: you know something i don't?
[06:35] <Anubis> how do you lose fake trasnparency?
[06:35] <Dreamer3_> crimsun: i need keyboard bindings :) i know you can change the settings
[06:35] <imnes> well not new anymore, but stuff like the media mounting, dvd burning I use a lot.
[06:35] <lmurillo> ok, I'll come back tomorrow, nite to all
[06:35] <lunitik> Dreamer3_: only thing of note that I am liking so far isn't even GNOME... its GTK... search-as-you-type or whatever...
[06:36] <tritium> lunitik, dropline is being used in firefox on ubuntu.  read the changelog
[06:36] <Dreamer3_> crimsun: i run windows different sizes and change them constantly
[06:36] <shilbert> lunitik, it doesn't seem to have changed anything
[06:36] <Dreamer3_> lunitik: yeah, i've seen tha ti think
[06:36] <syn-ack> Hey everyone.
[06:36] <imnes> tritium - what?
[06:36] <shilbert> oh well
[06:36] <niptac> hi guys do I need to create a new bash.bashrc file for this "The JAVA_HOME environment variable is not defined
[06:36] <niptac>  This environment variable is needed to run this program
[06:37] <niptac> Im trying to run tomcat
[06:37] <tritium> imnes, what?
[06:37] <randabis> maybe opera is using ipv6 :/
[06:37] <crimsun> niptac: (I thought I explained last night)
[06:37] <randabis> gotta figure out how to change that
[06:37] <niptac> crimsun I lost it
[06:37] <lunitik> tritium: according to the bug/enhancement request I filed about Firefox, they are using gnomestripe in Ubuntu... as per new firefox default...
[06:37] <niptac> sorry
[06:37] <crimsun> niptac: were is your jdk/jre installed?
[06:37] <tritium> lunitik, sorry, it's calledgnomestripe theme
[06:37] <crimsun> where^
[06:37] <lunitik> https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2162
[06:37] <niptac> crimsun I stuffed things up and reinstalled
[06:38] <tritium> lunitik, you're kidding.  That's the new default?
[06:38] <tritium> Man, that sucks
[06:38] <shilbert> gnomestripe as in pinstripe?
[06:38] <shilbert> Oh.
[06:38] <niptac> crimsun my j2sdk is installed in /usr/local/
[06:38] <lunitik> shilbert: it uses the GNOME icons...
[06:38] <Tempura> I'm going through my computer, and I can't seem to find much that I'd be afraid to lose
[06:39] <shilbert> ah
[06:39] <Tempura> I'm backing up vital stuff, then I'm going to attempt to partition
[06:39] <farruinn> Tempura: sounds like you're ready to plunge in =)
[06:39] <mebaran151> I found my alsa problem
[06:39] <imnes> tritium - you said dropline is being used in firefox on ubuntu I didn't understand what you were talking about.
[06:39] <nomasteryoda> Tempura, go for it
[06:39] <mebaran151> my speaker cord had a cut
[06:39] <mebaran151> heheh
[06:39] <Tempura> I don't have a partitioner yet
[06:39] <mebaran151> stupid
[06:39] <nomasteryoda> Ultimate boot cd
[06:39] <lunitik> shilbert: its based on a Mac OS X theme, that was ported to windows as Winstripe and to gnome as the aformentioned theme
[06:40] <Tempura> I was just going through and getting important stuff
[06:40] <shilbert> I see
[06:40] <lunitik> Announced recently as new default...
[06:40] <lunitik> (for firefox...)
[06:40] <nomasteryoda> i like the looks of that one
[06:40] <crimsun> mebaran151: nice "alsa" problem :p
[06:40] <tritium> imnes, I was mistaken.  It's called gnomestripe
[06:40] <imnes> ok
[06:40] <crimsun> niptac: and the dir name?
[06:40] <mebaran151> crimsun, yep
[06:40] <mebaran151> no wonder I couldnt solve it
[06:41] <niptac> crimsun my j2sdk1.4.2_07 is installed in /usr/local/
[06:42] <tritium> Old theme looked better, imho
[06:42] <lunitik> weird refreshing bugs with that beast  :/
[06:42] <crimsun> niptac: so you should place in ~/.bashrc: export JAVA_HOME=/usr/local/j2sdk1.4.2_07
[06:42] <lunitik> tritium: new one fits in better...
[06:42] <tritium> yes, but uglier
[06:42] <crimsun> niptac: and export PATH=$JAVA_HOME/bin:$PATH
[06:42] <imnes> Anybody know how I can add some menu items to the menu in Hoary?
[06:43] <tritium> imnes, not possible yet
[06:43] <lunitik> tritium: matter of opinion... I change to something that looks more like everything else...
[06:43] <farruinn> lunitik: pinstripes fits into ubuntu better?
[06:43] <tritium> lunitik, sure, matter of opinion, as I said
[06:43] <imnes> tritium not even by manually editing files on the filesystem?
[06:43] <niptac> crimsun: you mean run it in terminal as root or edit the .bashrc file with gedit?
[06:43] <farruinn> niptac: putting the line in .bashrc will make it permanent
[06:43] <Anubis> is esetroot borked?
[06:43] <crimsun> niptac: gedit will suffice. It's _your_ user, not root's.
[06:43] <tritium> imnes, you can probably edit .desktop files in /usr/share/applications
[06:43] <Xappe> instead of sleeping (it's 06.44 am here in sweden) i'm compiling cedega cvs
[06:43] <lunitik> farruinn: its not pinstripes... gdi... its a Firefox theme that uses GNOME icons.
[06:43] <tritium> imnes, but I haven't tried it, so no guarantees
[06:43] <crimsun> Anubis: no, it works fine on both warty and hoary.
[06:43] <Anubis> what si suppsoed to draw gnomes desktop?
[06:44] <niptac> as /usr/local?
[06:44] <farruinn> lunitik: heh, thanks, I was confused =)
[06:44] <farruinn> Anubis: nautilus
[06:44] <imnes> Anubis - doesn't nautilus?
[06:44] <crimsun> niptac: use the syntax I gave you.
[06:44] <Anubis> crimsun, i no longer can use the transpanercy features built into programs anymore?
[06:44] <imnes> I know when nautilus freezes my desktop doesn't refresh :)
[06:44] <niptac> crimsun: ok
[06:44] <lunitik> imnes: yes... nautilus handles that  :)
[06:44] <crimsun> Anubis: works here, ymmv.
[06:44] <Anubis> I have a glass gkrellm
[06:44] <Anubis> but its not drawing the desktop behind it
[06:45] <tritium> time for bed
[06:45] <crimsun> did you just set the root hint?
[06:45] <tritium> good night all
[06:45] <randabis> usplash is late :/ oh well, hopefully it'll be out this week
[06:45] <lunitik> tritium: night man
[06:45] <shilbert> hmm, so if I want to get rid of this ugly house icon, maybe I should just change my gnome theme
[06:45] <Dreamer3_> randabis: did it autoadd it to a menu for you?
[06:45] <tritium> lunitik, night
[06:45] <shilbert> icon theme at least
[06:45] <randabis> nite tritium
[06:45] <Dreamer3_> randabis: opera?
[06:45] <Zotnix> Unstable nautilus is sort of like Explorer
[06:45] <lunitik> randabis: I don't reboot enough to care about such things  :P
[06:46] <randabis> Dreamer3_, I didn't look, used console :p
[06:46] <randabis> lunitik, yeah me either, but it's still a nice gesture :p
[06:46] <Dreamer3_> randabis: ok, how do i edit gnome menus?
[06:46] <lunitik> randabis: plus... they are working on making the boot process faster... somewhat a waste of effort if they can speed it up enough  :)
[06:46] <shilbert> weird
[06:46] <randabis> Dreamer3_, open nautilus and in the address bar put applications:///
[06:47] <Tempura> just had an interesting conversation with my sister about partitions
[06:47] <randabis> then go to the part you want to add the launcher to, and right-click --> add launcher
[06:47] <Tempura> "imagine putting a cat in a dog in the same room"
[06:47] <Dreamer3_> lunitik: no
[06:47] <Tempura> "why not just get rid of the dog?"
[06:47] <lunitik> Dreamer3_: chicken
[06:47] <randabis> lunitik, warty, that's why I'm telling them this way
[06:47] <da_bon_bon> Dreamer3_: warty ?
[06:47] <Tempura> "I'm not ready to get rid of the dog yet"
[06:47] <regeya> shilbert, iirc you can change just the icon if you wish
[06:47] <Tempura> "basically you put up a wall so they won't see each other"
[06:48] <Tempura> "then you kill the dog"
[06:48] <Tempura> "hopefully"
[06:48] <randabis> u get that Dreamer3_?
[06:48] <shilbert> gnome-theme-manager is going whacky on me
[06:48] <shilbert> there, better
[06:48] <randabis> heh
[06:48] <pestil> my boo my boo my boo hoo
[06:48] <imnes> the theme switcher freaks out on me, wont' let me scroll.  But if I click on another theme on the first page then it works fine?
[06:49] <mebaran151> hey
[06:49] <mebaran151> I was just wondering if it is possible
[06:49] <mebaran151> to install both 32 bit and 64 bit Ubuntu
[06:49] <mebaran151> on the same hdd
[06:49] <mebaran151> and basically try to chroot between them
[06:49] <Tempura> knoppix just finished
[06:49] <lunitik> mebaran151: sure? kinda wasteful though
[06:49] <Dreamer3_> randabis: excepting cliking ok doesn't add it
[06:49] <mebaran151> so that the 32 bit stuff works
[06:49] <shilbert> I'll just use qute 3 for now
[06:49] <crimsun> mebaran151: that's normally what happens.
[06:49] <Dreamer3_> randabis: nothing happens
[06:49] <shilbert> imnes: that just happened to me too
[06:49] <crimsun> mebaran151: default 64-bit install, 32-bit chroot.
[06:50] <mebaran151> crimsun, thta was what I had thought
[06:50] <shilbert> I switched back from ati to fglrx driver for X and it seemed to work
[06:50] <lunitik> mebaran151: crimsun is doing something like that I think... he seems to like chroots rather a lot  :P
[06:50] <mebaran151> but I dont notice a 32 bit chroot
[06:50] <shilbert> although I don't know if that was the exact cause
[06:50] <crimsun> mebaran151: did you debootstrap correctly?
[06:50] <shilbert> Console output suggests it's having trouble creating the thumbnails
[06:50] <mebaran151> I havent tried it
[06:50] <mebaran151> openoffice runs
[06:50] <mebaran151> in my 64 biyt environment
[06:50] <mebaran151> but it looked like the linked it to 32 bit emul libs
[06:50] <mebaran151> some how
[06:50] <imnes> I just installed a theme called Wintah (I think that's the spelling), it's different but looks pretty nice.
[06:50] <crimsun> mebaran151: to run 32-bit apps, you create a 32-bit chroot using debootstrap
[06:50] <Dreamer3_> randabis: nothing :(
[06:51] <mebaran151> ahh
[06:51] <crimsun> mebaran151: more info on the wiki
[06:51] <mebaran151> I might try it
[06:51] <mebaran151> because Evolution is so borked for 64 bits right now
[06:51] <mestapheles> .
[06:51] <crimsun> mebaran151: tried 2.1.5?
[06:51] <mebaran151> yep
[06:51] <imnes> heh don't feel bad, evolution on hoary is borked in general
[06:51] <mebaran151> same prob
[06:51] <crimsun> evo has teething pains.
[06:51] <mebaran151> yep
[06:51] <mebaran151> but I used evo alot
[06:52] <crimsun> off to work again.
[06:52] <mebaran151> see ya crimsun
[06:52] <imnes> Seems impossible to add new task categories, I add one, it shows up with a blank label instead of what I typed, and clicking on again to edit it just crashes evo
[06:52] <mebaran151> my gnome mixer is now freezing
[06:52] <mebaran151> no big deal since I can just load the alsamizer
[06:52] <mebaran151> alsamixer
[06:52] <mebaran151> if I want
[06:52] <mebaran151> to change alot
[06:52] <mebaran151> but it is sort of annoying
[06:52] <mebaran151> it freezes
[06:52] <Tempura> can I open .txt files while in linux?
[06:53] <pestil> imnes: is this it? http://www.gnome-look.org/content/pre1/18669-1.jpg
[06:53] <Xappe> how long do you think it takes to compile cedega cvs?
[06:53] <Dreamer3_> anyone know how to add an app to the gnome menu when applications isn't cutting it?
[06:53] <Tempura> do txt files work in linux?
[06:53] <shilbert> Tempura, yes you can
[06:53] <Xappe> feels like it's taking forever :P
[06:53] <Tempura> cool
[06:53] <underdog> has anyone had a problem with "undefined reference to `XF86VidModeQueryVersion'" when compiling something?
[06:53] <imnes> pestil - yeah that's it
[06:54] <Tempura> I wanted to save a list on my usb flash drive and I wanted to make sure I'd be able to read it
[06:54] <underdog> i have all the x libs installed but it just won't cut it
[06:54] <imnes> Firefox didn't want to work with it properly (menu was unreadable) until I logged out and back in then everything was fine.
[06:54] <shilbert> Only thing is that Linux uses \n newlines instead of \r\n
[06:54] <shilbert> so if you make the file entirely in Linux and you have your editor set up to use \n newlines, it will look like it's all on one line in windows notepad
[06:54] <pestil> imnes: yeah opera is plain better than firefox
[06:55] <imnes> I got the gnome user switcher compiled and installed yesterday, that's a nice little applet if you share the computer with other people.
[06:55] <imnes> heh but opera won't use the theme at all :(  I have to have all my apps match I don't like mixing qt + gtk + whatever else ;)
[06:55] <niptac> crimsun: do I have to reboot to make it work?
[06:56] <pestil> imnes: whaddaya mean? opera takes themes
[06:56] <randabis> opera is kinda nice
[06:56] <randabis> pages seem to load slowly though :/
[06:56] <imnes> yeah I but I want it to match my other desktop apps.
[06:56] <Tempura> okay, I just burned knoppix to a cd
[06:56] <niptac> crimsun: I tried to gedit /etc/bash.bashrc and didnt work
[06:56] <Tempura> how do I use it to partition?
[06:56] <imnes> I dunno if I can find 'wintah' for opera
[06:56] <niptac> crimsun: same error
[06:56] <randabis> Tempura, what did you use to burn it ?
[06:57] <Tempura> software that came with the computer
[06:57] <imnes> Plus computer is fast enough that opera isn't any faster than firefox for me.  I like firefox anyway.
[06:57] <Tempura> does it matter?
[06:57] <randabis> that's not going to work probably
[06:57] <Tempura> why?
[06:57] <pestil> imnes: oh, you got wintah for firefox?
[06:57] <randabis> look at the contents of the cd you just burned
[06:57] <Dreamer3_> hmmmmmmm
[06:57] <lunitik> Tempura: what do you see on the disc when you read it? I think thats what he is getting at...
[06:57] <Tempura> it worked for ubuntu
[06:57] <randabis> what are the contents
[06:57] <wm_eddie> https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/LiveCDCustomizationHowTo SICK!!!
[06:57] <Dreamer3_> the files all show up in .gnome2/vfolders/applications
[06:57] <niptac> crimsun: so I tried to run ~/.bashrc: export JAVA_HOME=/usr/local/j2sdk1.4.2_07 in terminal and then export PATH=$JAVA_HOME/bin:$PATH
[06:57] <niptac>  and again same Java error
[06:57] <Dreamer3_> just not in the applications window
[06:58] <felix_was_bretze> hi all :-) please, I get the screen name "felix" , the first-name of my son :-)
[06:58] <Tempura> ugh, windows explorer just crashed for some reason
[06:58] <felix_was_bretze> Sh^&T I was Bretzel
[06:58] <Tempura> I'm reminded of why I was doing this in the first place
[06:58] <randabis> well if it worked for ubuntu then I guess it will probably work for knoppix...depends on how you burnt it I supposed
[06:58] <Anubis> This is what xchat tells me
[06:59] <lunitik> felix_was_bretze: its not up to us....
[06:59] <Tempura> I did it the same way as ubuntu
[06:59] <Anubis> Unable to set transparent background!
[06:59] <felix_was_bretze> Randabis: I've just finished installing Hoary Array-cd#4 :-)
[06:59] <Anubis> You may be using a non-compliant window
[06:59] <Anubis> manager that is not currently supported.
[06:59] <Tempura> should I boot in knoppix now?
[06:59] <randabis> yeah probably
[06:59] <Tempura> ok
[06:59] <lunitik> Anubis: what is your wm currently?
[06:59] <randabis> heh
[06:59] <randabis> felix_was_bretze, cool
[06:59] <heliolith> Hi all, I've successfully installed Warty now on 3 different machines (1 mine and 2 for the school I teach at) Is there any reason to think that it would be any more difficult if I do it on a laptop (Dell inspiron 8100) ?
[06:59] <imnes> pestil - don't need a theme for Firefox, it picks up the gnome theme and uses it.
[07:00] <Dreamer3_> ok
[07:00] <Dreamer3_> weird
[07:00] <Dreamer3_> now it works
[07:00] <imnes> http://www.cs.uwf.edu/~nsmith/Screenshot.png
[07:00] <pestil> imnes: really?!? didn't know that!
[07:00] <randabis> heliolith, wireless networking could be a problem
[07:00] <felix_was_bretze> randabis: grub install hangs again at 33% but managed in expert to use lilo instead of grub
[07:00] <randabis> well at least you've got a bootloader! :p
[07:00] <wm_eddie> Damn I don't have a new enough kernel >.>
[07:00] <shilbert> hmm, what's a nice PDF viewer for linux? Xpdf doesn't render as nice as Adobe does on Windows :/
[07:01] <randabis> you could try acroread
[07:01] <heliolith> randabis hmm, ok I don't have that set up on the laptop anyway... but some people are getting wifi to work in Ubuntu?
[07:01] <imnes> shilbert: ggv does ok
[07:01] <shilbert> k
[07:01] <randabis> heliolith, yeah, I use wifi in ubuntu...what I meant was it might not work "out of the box"
[07:01] <imnes> yeah I guess you could always run the official acrobat for linux :)
[07:01] <Dreamer3_> ok, i might just switch to opera :)
[07:01] <felix_was_bretze> Yes :-) - So logging out and call me felix from my next login here ...
[07:02] <shilbert> I just get bothered when I'm halfway done reading a book in one font and switch :P
[07:02] <heliolith> ahh okies so laptop = thumbs up: go for it (= thanks randabis
[07:02] <pestil> shilbert: there is Adobe Acrobat Reader for Linux
[07:02] <randabis> Dreamer3_, yeah it's pretty nice..I just gotta figure out why pages load slowly with it
[07:02] <wm_eddie> Dreamer3_: I tried it, but I don't get what people like about it so m uch.
[07:02] <kevinz0rzlol> hey is there any specific modes i need to burn the cd in to make it work? i.e. disc at once/track at once?
[07:02] <shilbert> Who said there was?
[07:02] <randabis> I think it might be trying to use ipv6
[07:02] <pestil> shilbert: ..but in my experience, it is much prettier in xpdf than in Adobe Acrobat for Linux
[07:02] <wm_eddie> it's not that fast...
[07:02] <kevinz0rzlol> im trying to burn the live cd atm if that matters
[07:03] <Dreamer3_> randabis: really?
[07:03] <Dreamer3_> randabis: opera has always been very fast anytime i've used it
[07:03] <shilbert> Ooh, ggv is pretty
[07:03] <randabis> kevinz0rzlol, shouldn't matter
[07:03] <Dreamer3_> randabis: ctrl-l doesn't work in opera though, annoying
[07:03] <kevinz0rzlol> hmm ok thanks
[07:03] <feli1> now trying nvidia-glx ......pray for me ....
[07:03] <imnes> I don't know I used the latest version and it feels the same speed as firefox to me?
[07:03] <pestil> shilbert: who said there was... what?
[07:03] <shilbert> An official Acrobat for Linux.
[07:03] <imnes> You can always run the port of Safari browser / konqueror on Gnome.
[07:04] <pestil> shilbert: there is
[07:04] <randabis> Dreamer3_, well it's slower for me than galeon so I gotta figure out why before I really start using it
[07:04] <shilbert> Oh weird
[07:04] <feli1> .
[07:04] <Dreamer3_> randabis: hmmm, and fonts suck
[07:04] <shilbert> I read an "isn't" where there wasn't one
[07:04] <randabis> yeah fonts really suck hehe
[07:04] <pestil> shilbert: you can even pick it from synaptic. you can find it as "acroread".
[07:04] <imnes> http://gtk-webcore.sourceforge.net/ if you want to try something new
[07:04] <pestil> shilbert: otherwise, you can download it from the Adobe website. Just look for it.
[07:05] <imnes> The reference browser wasn't meant for actual daily use, but it's something to play with.
[07:05] <ChuckWagon23> hello
[07:05] <pestil> shilbert: But I warn you, the whole interface just doesn't blend in, like xpdf.
[07:05] <imnes> I just installed it to test rendering of pages I work on to see if they work for konqueror / safari ok
[07:05] <Tempura> okay, knoppix didn't work
[07:05] <randabis> what did it do?
[07:05] <johann> is someone here using wifi radar
[07:05] <Tempura> it started to boot then stopped loading for some reason
[07:05] <shilbert> ah
[07:05] <randabis> hmm
[07:05] <imnes> Is he actually burning the image to disk or copying the .iso as a file to the cd?
[07:05] <randabis> dunno
[07:06] <Dreamer3_> none of my keystrokes work in opera though
[07:06] <randabis> he said it started booting
[07:06] <Tempura> it stopped booting somewhere around "USB mouse"
[07:06] <Dreamer3_> must be for mouse crippled users
[07:06] <imnes> k
[07:06] <Tempura> I think it wanted me to type something
[07:06] <Tempura> but nothing happened
[07:06] <shilbert> just for my information, is acroread in universe or multiverse or what?
[07:06] <shilbert> I've added universe to my sources but not multiverse yet
[07:07] <pestil> shilbert: it's probably in the additional repositories, yes
[07:07] <imnes> Is there a contrib and non-free like debian repos have?
[07:07] <pestil> imnes: yes there is
[07:07] <randabis> imnes that would be multiverse most likely
[07:07] <imnes> It's in Multiverse
[07:07] <imnes> I just checked
[07:07] <Tempura> I'm going to try installing
[07:07] <Tempura> I'm going to open IRC on another computer
[07:08] <Tempura> so I can get help while I'm installing ubuntu
[07:08] <randabis> ...sigh...
[07:08] <randabis> he's going to wipe out his windows watch
[07:08] <shilbert> what makes something go in multiverse versus universe?
[07:08] <randabis> it's "free" status
[07:08] <shilbert> ah
[07:08] <imnes> heh, galeon can be built against web-core instead of mozilla.
[07:08] <imnes> I had no idea.
[07:08] <pestil> shilbert: I thing universe only has certified "freedom" software
[07:08] <Danko123456> Ok, so I am trying to set up a dual boot, have been for days, here is some info...
[07:08] <Danko123456> Two hard disks, one 40GB, one 160GB, the 40GB one is set up to be the primary(the one it boots into), also that is the one that has Ubuntu on it.
[07:08] <Danko123456> This is what my /boot/grub/menu.lst looks like:
[07:08] <Danko123456> .....
[07:08] <Danko123456> title		Memory test
[07:09] <Danko123456> root		(hd0,0)
[07:09] <randabis> if it isn't a "free" program then it will be in multiverse
[07:09] <Danko123456> kernel		/memtest86+.bin
[07:09] <pestil> shilbert: multiverse has proprietary software too.
[07:09] <Danko123456> ### END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST
[07:09] <Danko123456> title           Windows XP
[07:09] <shilbert> ah
[07:09] <Danko123456> root            (hd1,0)
[07:09] <Danko123456> makeactive
[07:09] <Danko123456> chainloader     +1
[07:09] <Danko123456> Also I have ran update-grub after having changed it, this is what the error looks like when I boot
[07:09] <Danko123456> Booting 'Windows XP'
[07:09] <Danko123456> root          (hd1,0)
[07:09] <shilbert> Weird, fglrx wasn't in multiverse if I remember though
[07:09] <randabis> good lord man
[07:09] <Danko123456> Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x7
[07:09] <Danko123456> makeactive
[07:09] <Danko123456> chainloader +1
[07:09] <randabis> don't do that
[07:09] <Danko123456> So please let me know what you make of all that...
[07:09] <imnes> jeez
[07:09] <imnes> man nex time paste all that to a web page
[07:09] <Danko123456> Well, it was supposed to be on one entry...
[07:09] <randabis> pastebin.ca works
[07:10] <shilbert> http://rafb.net/paste/ is nice too
[07:10] <pestil> Danko123456: try pastebin.com
[07:10] <Danko123456> For the issue, or the message?
[07:10] <runenes> message
[07:10] <shilbert> For the message :P
[07:10] <Danko123456> so how does that help my dual boot?
[07:11] <Danko123456> :P
[07:11] <pestil> good bye
[07:11] <shilbert> hmm
[07:11] <runenes> Danko123456, post the url after you've pasted it to one of the past-thingies
[07:11] <shilbert> Anyone know if there's something equivalent to programs like Norton Ghost for backing up ext3 partitions?
[07:12] <imnes> shilbert - I've backed up ext3 partitions with ghost, so it works if you have it.
[07:12] <shilbert> interesting
[07:12] <feli1> Is there a cache for the nicknames ??? Because I've set my nick to felix but it is replaced by feri1 ??? thus felix exists but not looged ?
[07:12] <Danko123456> I dont know how to do it, are you going to try to help me after I do it?
[07:12] <shilbert> 2003 or 2004?
[07:12] <Tempura> okay, I'm installing ubuntu on my computer
[07:12] <feli1> feli1 ...
[07:12] <Tempura> I don't know what to do now
[07:12] <Danko123456> http://pastebin.com/239522
[07:12] <shilbert> 2004 maybe actually called '9', I forget
[07:12] <feli1> btw: randabis?
[07:12] <Danko123456> Wasnt too hard...:)
[07:12] <randabis> yeah?
[07:13] <feli1> nvidia-glx just works out of the box in this installation! :-)
[07:13] <randabis> :)
[07:13] <Danko123456> Just let me know if anyone is gonna take a look at it...
[07:13] <shilbert> I was surprised at fglrx working straight away too
[07:13] <shilbert> although I spent like two hours trying to get DRI to work before figuring out it was commented out in xorg.conf
[07:13] <feli1> dunno what happened during warty-to-hoary upgrade before ...
[07:14] <Tempura> the installer doesn't explain how to partition well
[07:14] <randabis> you can't resize partitions with the ubuntu installer
[07:14] <Tempura> the only option seems to be "format disk"
[07:14] <underdog> has anyone had a problem with "undefined reference to `XF86VidModeQueryVersion'" when compiling something?
[07:14] <feli1> aarrrg! don't like "feli1" !!! changing to "felix_1"
[07:14] <Tempura> I can't? That explains a LOT
[07:14] <Tempura> then how do I resize it?
[07:14] <randabis> hence why we told you to resize it beforehand
[07:15] <randabis> we've been over that
[07:15] <felix_1> ?
[07:15] <felix_1> ahh! feel better now!
[07:15] <Tempura> I didn't understand how to without deleting the data
[07:15] <randabis> you'll need to use partitioning software such as bootitng or the ultimate boot cd
[07:15] <lunitik> felix_1: meet /nick  ... and /help
[07:15] <shilbert> qtparted can resize partitions
[07:15] <imnes> Danko123456 - It says your partition type is 7, NTFS which is right. I'm not sure why it says type unknown though
[07:15] <shilbert> although I managed to break an NTFS partition and had to do a WinXP recovery install once
[07:16] <shilbert> which is why I ghost my windows partition onto another drive before screwing with the partitions now :P
[07:16] <randabis> lol
[07:16] <mebaran151> shilbert, do you know about qtparted
[07:16] <mebaran151> really easy
[07:16] <mebaran151> really safe
[07:16] <felix_1> lunitik: I don;t don;t understand - what do you mean? is it to force "felix" nick or what ?>
[07:16] <shilbert> qtparted is what broke my NTFS partition! :P
[07:16] <randabis> gparted > qtparted
[07:16] <mebaran151> oh
[07:16] <Danko123456> thanks. I am gonna paste what my fdisk for that drive says too.
[07:17] <mebaran151> Qtparted I think is based on the good nftsprogs
[07:17] <shilbert> Yeah
[07:17] <shilbert> I think it was just a fluke
[07:17] <mebaran151> the nftsprogs have really gone a long way
[07:17] <mebaran151> no
[07:17] <mebaran151> awhile back
[07:17] <mebaran151> I think the ntfsprogs werent safe
[07:17] <mebaran151> but they finally got them to be more reliable than the ones by Partitionmagic
[07:17] <shilbert> Is there a good writable NTFS driver at all nowadays?
[07:17] <mebaran151> just not as easy to use
[07:17] <randabis> whatever you do, do NOT use qtparted to resize a reiserfs partition
[07:18] <shilbert> ah, cool
[07:18] <shilbert> I'll remember that :P
[07:18] <lunitik> feli1: you can /msg felix and ask him/her to let you use the name I guess  :/
[07:18] <mebaran151> ranabis, can I convert my ext3 partition to reiserfs
[07:18] <mebaran151> I have always wondered that
[07:18] <lunitik> mebaran151: no
[07:18] <Xappe> ah, Call of Dutu did run in cedega cvs, good beginning...but it locked quite hard when i tried to quit the game...
[07:18] <shilbert> I'm tempted to put my common data on an ext3 partition and install an ext3 driver on windows rather than an ntfs driver on linux :P
[07:18] <randabis> shilbert, I believe there is something out there, can't remember the name
[07:18] <Xappe> *Duty
[07:18] <lunitik> well... not without losing data
[07:18] <randabis> mebaran151, not without wiping them out first
[07:18] <shilbert> I think there's one that loads the windows NTFS driver?
[07:18] <mebaran151> what about the convert prog
[07:18] <mebaran151> captive-ntfs
[07:18] <shilbert> like WINE/ndiswrapper/whatever style
[07:19] <mebaran151> it works most of the time
[07:19] <imnes> Danko123456 - add the line  rootnoverify (hd1,0)
[07:19] <Tempura> okay, I'm downloading UBCD
[07:19] <randabis> shilbert, that's what I'm referring to, but I can't remember the name
[07:19] <mebaran151> convertfs
[07:19] <imnes> see if that makes a difference.
[07:19] <shilbert> ah
[07:19] <Tempura> but I don't know how to use it
[07:19] <Danko123456> Thanks will try.
[07:19] <shilbert> Well I can find it on google if I need it
[07:19] <felix_1> lunitik: ah! if there is already a felix, I don;t want to disturb -- I feel well with "felix_1" anyway, I have ONE son named "Felix" :-) He's the #1! hehehe
[07:19] <mebaran151> lunitik, then what is convertfs for
[07:19] <runenes> to make services not start up, is it sufficient to chmod -x in /etc/init.d/ ?
[07:19] <Danko123456> Ill be back in any case.
[07:20] <randabis> you'll have to burn it like you did ubuntu and knoppix...I can't help you from there..haven't ever used it
[07:20] <Tempura> ok
[07:20] <Danko123456> THats instead of the other root line right?
[07:20] <mebaran151> runenes, I dont think that is the best idea
[07:20] <randabis> well I have used it, but when I did it did not have partitioning software on it
[07:20] <mebaran151> if you want no services to start
[07:20] <randabis> maybe check the site for info
[07:20] <mebaran151> just boot into single user mode
[07:20] <heliolith> So, has anyone ever been prompted to RE-insert the Cd-rom during an Ubuntu install?  The only times I have been prompted were the times the install eventually ended up not going well...  I have one such machine currently that won't load X, and is stuck at command prompt... I'm not sure how to re-patch it, so I'm probably going to start from square one again with it...
[07:20] <mebaran151> I dont think they have any services under that
[07:21] <runenes> mebaran151, I want to stop some services from starting automatically
[07:21] <imnes> yes I think so Danko123456
[07:21] <Danko123456> thanks
[07:21] <mebaran151> runenes, then I guess your way should work
[07:21] <imnes> I've never dual booted so might be wrong :(
[07:21] <mebaran151> it is just sort of dangerous
[07:21] <Tempura> I want to resize the ntfs partition and create a fat partition so I can install ubuntu... will UBCD do that?
[07:21] <lunitik> runenes: try 'rcconf'  'sudo apt-get install rcconf'
[07:21] <mebaran151> make sure you know what you want done
[07:21] <randabis> Tempura, maybe, but ubuntu doesn't use fat
[07:21] <imnes> Danko123456 was looking at this: http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:JJQnTtrdUv0J:www.linuxforums.org/forum/topic-30442.html+add+xp+partition+to+grub&hl=en&start=4&client=firefox
[07:21] <Tempura> it doesn't?
[07:21] <Tempura> then what?
[07:21] <mebaran151> lunitik, so what is convertfs for
[07:21] <randabis> you'll want ext3
[07:22] <randabis> but let ubuntu installer handle that part
[07:22] <randabis> just resize the partition, and leave unused space
[07:22] <felix_1> oh my god! cannot run as root! and no sudo user!!!!
[07:22] <Tempura> ok
[07:22] <stuNNed> felix_1: boot into single user mode?
[07:22] <Tempura> will 30 GB each be enough for windows and ubuntu?
[07:22] <pUTo> Hey I'm interested in trying Ubuntu but i'm having trouble getting to their site http://www.ubuntulinux.org is anyone else having problems?
[07:23] <heliolith> lol regeya
[07:23] <mebaran151> lunitik, convertfs does do that conversion
[07:23] <randabis> I recommend about 10 gig free space or more...minimum of about 5
[07:23] <Tempura> so 30 will be plenty?
[07:23] <randabis> yeah
[07:23] <Tempura> ok
[07:23] <regeya> don't tell me...let me guess...ubuntu is set up to ask for root password when dropping down to runlevel 1
[07:23] <felix_1> I need a sudo account (  my default user ), thus where I can put this to be sudoer ???
[07:23] <heliolith> puto do you speak spanish?
[07:23] <shilbert> Hrm, so when you do 'sudo' on Ubuntu, and it asks for your password - is that your normal user account password, and root just has no password and ability to log in? Or are they both the same from the beginning?
[07:23] <pUTo> yes
[07:23] <regeya> except that it's oh-so-wonderful to not have a root password
[07:23] <shilbert> You can always go sudo bash :)
[07:23] <heliolith> lol i can load ubuntulinux.org fine
[07:24] <regeya> dsaadsf
[07:24] <randabis> I booted into single user mode yesterday
[07:24] <Tempura> long download... I'll just stare at my Osaka wallpaper until it finishes
[07:24] <pUTo> claro que si
[07:24] <heliolith> puto: which version you want maybe I can pass you the link
[07:24] <randabis> it didn't ask me for a password
[07:24] <pUTo> warty 4.1 i think
[07:24] <Tempura> I bet everyone thinks I'm talking about the city
[07:25] <randabis> probably some anime thing
[07:25] <shilbert> But you're not, are you?
[07:25] <Tempura> of course not
[07:25] <heliolith> puto what country are you in?
[07:25] <mebaran151> how much better is reiserfs than ext3
[07:25] <Tempura> why would I stare at a city?
[07:25] <mebaran151> I am thinking of having some risky fun
[07:25] <mebaran151> with convertfs
[07:25] <pUTo> i've just been reading about it and thought i'd try it out but i cant get to their site
[07:25] <randabis> mebaran151, reiserfs is faster when using small files
[07:25] <magnon> hm
[07:25] <pUTo> USA
[07:25] <magnon> is my alt button supposed to break in hoary?
[07:25] <randabis> really I don't think it's worth it
[07:25] <mebaran151> randabis, how small is small
[07:25] <mebaran151> I mean
[07:26] <heliolith> PUTO: try this http://ubuntu.mirrors.tds.net/releases/warty/
[07:26] <randabis> probably a meg or less, not sure
[07:26] <mebaran151> would it speed up /etc? :)
[07:26] <randabis> probably
[07:26] <mebaran151> yeah
[07:26] <mebaran151> randabis, do you know anything about convertfs
[07:26] <Tempura> aw, the download's done... I can't stare at her anymore
[07:26] <randabis> convertfs will wipe the data from the partitions..I know that much
[07:27] <heliolith> does anyone have a solution for doing MULTIPLE ubuntu installs without having to wait for everything to download every single time?
[07:27] <mebaran151> randabis, really
[07:27] <randabis> yes
[07:27] <mebaran151> all it says is it can convert an inplace filesystem
[07:27] <mebaran151> seems rather odd to have a utility to that
[07:27] <mebaran151> if it has to delete all the data
[07:27] <mebaran151> I could just go to cfdisk
[07:27] <randabis> well I think it is meant to convert ext2 to ext3
[07:27] <randabis> so no data loss would occur there iirc
[07:28] <mebaran151> I thought one used tune2fs for that
[07:28] <mebaran151> create a journal
[07:28] <randabis> perhaps, I'm not real familiar with all those disk utils
[07:28] <mebaran151> EXAMPLE
[07:28] <mebaran151>      convertfs /dev/hda2 ext2 reiserfs
[07:28] <mebaran151> this was jus the example
[07:28] <mebaran151> I will do more research
[07:29] <mebaran151> it looks like the holy grail of file system conversion utilities
[07:29] <mebaran151> it doesnt ask for any info
[07:29] <mebaran151> and it looks ridiculously simple to use
[07:29] <pUTo> heliolith: thanks for the link - its working
[07:30] <Tempura> now it's burning the cd... I get to stare at my osaka wallpaper some more
[07:30] <heliolith> no hay de que (= no prob.
[07:30] <randabis> heliolith, you could opt not to download updates during the install
[07:30] <pUTo> de donde eres
[07:30] <Anubis> what is it? esetroot?
[07:30] <Tempura> in case anyone cares... GIS for "osaka" and she's the only anime character on the first page
[07:30] <underdog> has anyone had a problem with "undefined reference to `XF86VidModeQueryVersion'" when compiling something?
[07:30] <mebaran151> how does the initrd know which modules to load for the filesystem
[07:31] <heliolith> puto: NY... randabis but then it would be not "up to date" right?
[07:31] <mebaran151> I have always been amazed at that
[07:31] <randabis> heliolith, not until you update
[07:31] <heliolith> randabis and all the updating could be done via synaptic?
[07:31] <Danko123456> Hi, please read : http://pastebin.com/239526
[07:32] <shilbert> Danko, what's wrong with it?
[07:32] <mebaran151> sry
[07:32] <shilbert> I could show you how mine looks
[07:32] <Dreamer3_> mmmmmmmmm
[07:32] <Danko123456> With what, shilbert?
[07:32] <Danko123456> I mean whats wrong with what?
[07:33] <shilbert> With your menu.lst
[07:33] <shilbert> Oh, I see
[07:33] <Danko123456> Hehe
[07:33] <Danko123456> Whats wrong, if I only knew...
[07:33] <randabis> heliolith, sure
[07:33] <heliolith> ok thanks
[07:33] <Tempura> that's great
[07:34] <Tempura> UBCD can't resize NTFS partitions
[07:34] <Danko123456> I would be thankful, if you were to show me what your looks like...if it relates to my situation...
[07:34] <randabis> haha
[07:34] <Lance> Good evening
[07:34] <shilbert> Well, let me paste it
[07:34] <randabis> welcome ol' buddy
[07:34] <Danko123456> hi
[07:34] <heliolith> I want my school to look like this someday!! http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20050207#1
[07:34] <Danko123456> Thank you.
[07:34] <randabis> Lance pwns u all
[07:34] <randabis> lol
[07:35] <shilbert> http://rafb.net/paste/results/EZfRFd73.html
[07:35] <shilbert> My windows partition instructions are above the magic kernel area
[07:35] <shilbert> (just search for Windows)
[07:35] <shilbert> Looks basically the same as yours though
[07:35] <randabis> hmm maybe these torrents will finish this millenium
[07:36] <Danko123456> thanks, Ill try that.
[07:36] <Anubis> pseudo-transparency is lost
[07:36] <shilbert> I think all the options are the same :|
[07:36] <shilbert> Did you have a bootloader on that drive?
[07:37] <shilbert> err partition
[07:37] <shilbert> I would assume Windows always has one
[07:37] <underdog> has anyone had a problem with "undefined reference to `XF86VidModeQueryVersion'" when compiling something?
[07:38] <shilbert> underdog, during compiling or linking?
[07:38] <Danko123456> heliolith: I completely agree about the school thing :D
[07:38] <underdog> compiling
[07:38] <Tempura> which UBCD program do I use to resize NTFS partitions?
[07:38] <shilbert> What are you #including?
[07:38] <shilbert> X stuff?
[07:39] <underdog> actually
[07:39] <underdog> what I'm compiling doesn't use X stuff at all
[07:39] <underdog> it might use libs that are staticlly linked to that, though
[07:39] <underdog> I have the feeling I may need to compile xorg from scratch
[07:39] <daniels> underdog: er, no
[07:39] <daniels> you just need libXxf86vm
[07:39] <daniels> which is in libxxf86vm-dev
[07:39] <Tempura> how do I resize NTFS partitions?
[07:39] <underdog> Tempura, you don't
[07:40] <Tempura> then how the hell do I install ubuntu?
[07:40] <magnon> remove the ntfs partition? :>
[07:40] <underdog> daniels, installed and up-to-date
[07:40] <magnon> I thought it was possible to resize them though
[07:40] <ficusplanet> Tempura, look up/download the Linux System Rescue CD.  It will let you resize the NTFS partition with qtparted.
[07:40] <Tempura> I can't just remove the partition
[07:40] <magnon> in any case you can do it through windows with Partition Magic or something like that
[07:41] <Tempura> so I can't without spending money?
[07:41] <regeya> ubuntu overtook mandrake, eh?
[07:41] <Danko123456> Are you in the states, tempura?
[07:41] <shilbert> lol
[07:41] <daniels> underdog: then you need to fix whatever you're compiling to link with -lXxf86vm
[07:41] <ficusplanet> Tempura, Linux System Rescue CD = FREE
[07:41] <magnon> Tempura: how you achieve partition magic is entirely up to you. :> but ficusplanet's idea is good enough
[07:41] <shilbert> oh so it WAS a linking phase error
[07:42] <regeya> well, if anyone deserves to take mandrake's spot, I suppose it should be ubuntu
[07:42] <Danko123456> plus if you are anywhere but the states, I think it is perfectly safe to downmload it from some fileshare program...
[07:42] <shilbert> ubuntu has been impressive
[07:42] <Tempura> I wish I was outside the states
[07:42] <Danko123456> So you are...
[07:42] <shilbert> I didn't have to spend a week getting fglrx to work like for FC2
[07:42] <Danko123456> heh
[07:42] <underdog> daniels, let me try
[07:42] <Danko123456> well good luck tehn..
[07:43] <underdog> daniels, same problem :)
[07:43] <Danko123456> How about if I get the file for you, and send it to you in PM, is that illegal in the states too?
[07:43] <Tempura> will qtparted resize ntfs partitions?
[07:43] <mebaran151> why cant we just use the mirrors
[07:43] <ficusplanet> Tempura, yes
[07:43] <mebaran151> Tempura, most definitely yes
[07:43] <Tempura> ok, then where do I get it?
[07:43] <shilbert> oh man
[07:43] <ficusplanet> Tempura, Just google for it.
[07:44] <shilbert> Did you guys see the Steve Jobs NextSTEP thing that was on Slashdot?
[07:44] <Danko123456> the video
[07:44] <Danko123456> ?
[07:44] <shilbert> yeah
[07:44] <Danko123456> I have it here,..
[07:44] <Danko123456> its pretty sweet.
[07:44] <Tempura> it doesn't run in windows
[07:44] <Danko123456> No?
[07:44] <Danko123456> heh...then get to it...
[07:44] <Danko123456> :)
[07:45] <Danko123456> He presents it as if it is some big thing...how old is that presentation?
[07:45] <mebaran151> regeya, I have always wanted GNUStep
[07:45] <shilbert> It's kind of funny how much they basically figured out over ten years ago and people are just now catching up to on most installs
[07:45] <Tempura> I'm so confused
[07:45] <shilbert> it's from 1993 or so, I think
[07:45] <Danko123456> Yeah, for then it is very impressive.
[07:45] <Danko123456> FOr now...it is almost standard...
[07:45] <shilbert> Well, the Services thing was kind of nice
[07:45] <shilbert> OS X has that
[07:45] <Danko123456> I am getting an iBook tommorow at 12 noon, according to Fedex...
[07:46] <Danko123456> I must brag..
[07:46] <shilbert> :O
[07:46] <Danko123456> I am totally pumped.
[07:46] <Danko123456> heh
[07:46] <Danko123456> pumped...
[07:46] <Danko123456> Excited...its my first laptop...
[07:46] <Danko123456> I think it is gonna have a dual boot of Mac OS X, and Ubuntu....
[07:47] <Danko123456> Maybe some other distro...
[07:47] <regeya> mebaran151, it always sounds great in theory
[07:47] <Danko123456> I have a debian here on my desk...
[07:47] <Danko123456> but jusging on how dual boots havce been working for me so far...
[07:47] <regeya> I set up ubuntu on a sawtooth last week.  Went really smoothly.
[07:47] <mebaran151> I tried installing all the pkgs
[07:47] <eatmyshor> I am here to let you know of a new site that just launched.  www.FreeStuffNation.com . get all kinds of free stuff (free ipods/free minimacs/free lcd monitors).
[07:47] <eatmyshor> www.freestuffnation.com
[07:47] <mebaran151> for GNUStep
[07:47] <Danko123456> is that guy for real?
[07:47] <mebaran151> but it never seemed to add another thing to boot
[07:48] <Danko123456> or is that some kind of script type thing?
[07:48] <regeya> yay irc spam
[07:48] <stuNNed> fucking spammer
[07:48] <regeya> probably
[07:48] <Danko123456> heh
[07:48] <Danko123456> sweet...
[07:48] <regeya> eatmyshor
[07:48] <stuNNed> www.infectmycomputerwithviriiandspywareFreeStuffNation.com
[07:48] <Danko123456> hahhaa
[07:48] <Danko123456> All right, another reboot, see ya afterwards.
[07:49] <mebaran151> is GNUStep like XFCE or Fluxbox
[07:49] <Menaherann> hello
[07:49] <Menaherann> are you guys familiar with madrake?
[07:50] <mebaran151> I can do some Mandrake
[07:50] <Menaherann> mandrake
[07:50] <mebaran151> it is not as good as Ubuntu though
[07:50] <Menaherann> hello there!
[07:50] <regeya> no, gnustep is an implementation of the nextstep specification...in theory, you could apply any cocoa programming knowledge you have toward gnustep.
[07:50] <mebaran151> I dont know no stinkin' cocoa :)
[07:50] <randabis> gnustep will run the hurd kernel eventuall hehe
[07:50] <regeya> there are a few desktop apps out there for gnustep, but it's all very disogrganized
[07:50] <randabis> if it doesn't already
[07:50] <regeya> hahahahahah
[07:50] <Menaherann> well i tride to install ubuntu in my old laptop, but it refuses to work.
[07:51] <randabis> there's a gnustep livecd now lolz
[07:51] <randabis> regeya, HA
[07:51] <daniels> guys, offtpoic
[07:51] <shilbert> I'm gone
[07:51] <Tempura> I can't figure out how to use qtparted
[07:51] <niptac> crimsun: this one works: echo "export JAVA_HOME=/usr/local/j2sdk1.4.2_07" >> ~/.bashrc
[07:51] <Menaherann> so actually if you guys could give this newvie a hand it'll be greatly appreciated
[07:51] <Menaherann> :)
[07:51] <randabis> Tempura, you have to run it in a linux environment
[07:51] <mebaran151> Hurd Kernel
[07:51] <mebaran151> I never got that either
[07:51] <Tempura> I think I am
[07:52] <mebaran151> Why do we even need it
[07:52] <mebaran151> it sounds sort of cool
[07:52] <regeya> speaking of gnustep, has anyone run it under ubuntu?  I'd love to install gnu reniassance and develop native apps here at home, then recompile 'em at work on my panther box ;-)
[07:52] <Tempura> I don't know which file to use
[07:52] <Tempura> I don't know what to download or where
[07:52] <regeya> 'coz I'm not holding my breath for a "native" GTK+ on OS X
[07:53] <randabis> regeya, I'm pretty sure it will run, haven't tried
[07:53] <randabis> the packages are certainly there
[07:53] <regeya> hm.
[07:53] <Menaherann> hello?
[07:53] <mebaran151> Java
[07:53] <Danko123456> heh it did not make a difference/
[07:53] <mebaran151> I need to get that to go too
[07:53] <Lokken> So... is this a good place to ask a couple of questions?
[07:54] <underdog> Lokken, this is a good place to ask a question several times and not to get a single valid answer
[07:54] <Tempura> I simply can't figure out how I'm supposed to install ubuntu without deleting windows
[07:54] <Danko123456> Please read : http://pastebin.com/239524 , if you already have not and know anything about dual booting.
[07:54] <Menaherann> ok..
[07:54] <randabis> Tempura, resize the partition with partitioning software
[07:54] <randabis> ...
[07:54] <lakin> Tempura: you'l l need free space on a hard drive.  If windows already has the entire hard drive partitioned for itself, then you'll need to use a partitioning tool to resize the windows partition.
[07:54] <Menaherann> i installed ubuntu in my old laptop.
[07:54] <Tempura> I can't get partitioning software that will resize ntfs
[07:54] <Lokken> SB Audigy 2 ZS, Ubuntu Hoary Array-4, no sound.
[07:55] <randabis> check your mixer
[07:55] <Menaherann> but it gets stuck... doesn't finish the rebboting?
[07:55] <lakin> Tempura: what are the reasons you need to keep windows? Data? Activations?
[07:55] <randabis> make sure the volume isn't down
[07:55] <Lokken> Mixer's turned up.
[07:55] <Tempura> I'm not sure
[07:55] <Menaherann> i mean it prompts me for username/password
[07:55] <Danko123456> Would you like me to download partition magic from somewhere, and put a link to it on a website, so you can download?
[07:55] <Lokken> And alsamixer is showing it as my sound card.
[07:55] <Tempura> no
[07:55] <Menaherann> but then it hangs?
[07:55] <Danko123456> Ill change its name and everything...
[07:55] <randabis> Lokken, emu10k1?
[07:56] <Lokken> Yep.
[07:56] <Dreamer3> hmmmmmmmm
[07:56] <underdog> regeya, noone helped on the solution
[07:56] <calamari> anyone know of a good channel to discuss computer building?
[07:56] <Dreamer3> does sudo catch credentials or something?
[07:56] <underdog> regeya, but I got it right already
[07:56] <Dreamer3> i can't figure out how it works
[07:56] <Dreamer3> it only prompts me for a password like once
[07:56] <Tempura> you may have a point
[07:56] <jdub> see /etc/sudoers
[07:56] <randabis> Lokken check desktop --> Preferences --> multimedia systems selector
[07:56] <Tempura> why do I want to keep windows?
[07:56] <Dreamer3> jdub: ok :)
[07:56] <calamari> tempura: for wine libs :)
[07:56] <randabis> you should have both set to esd
[07:57] <Danko123456> if you have diff devices...that are not supported by Linux..
[07:57] <randabis> if that doesn't work, try alsa
[07:57] <lakin> Tempura: My point is that it's typically easier to repartition your hard drive using the ubuntu install, leaving room for a windows install, then install windows, and finally install ubuntu.
[07:57] <mebaran151> Evolution will be unborked by the time Hoary is frozen
[07:57] <mebaran151> right
[07:57] <mebaran151> we arent going to freeze Hoary with an Evolution that doesnt start
[07:57] <regeya> underdog, so you're saying you figured it out without intervention...uh...
[07:57] <Tempura> you know what?
[07:57] <Lokken> Still no go, Randabis.
[07:57] <Tempura> I'm going to do it
[07:57] <Danko123456> no, tell us.
[07:57] <Danko123456> sweet.
[07:57] <Lokken> No go for ESD/Alsa/OSS
[07:57] <Danko123456> backup data...
[07:57] <Danko123456> if you want..
[07:58] <lakin> Tempura: make sure that everying you'll need to use in ubuntu works from the live-cd first?
[07:58] <randabis> well set it to esd...leave it
[07:58] <lakin> and back up data.
[07:58] <lakin> what's array 4?
[07:58] <Tempura> I can't think of anything I can't get later
[07:58] <pussfeller> my mass storage device is not showing up in /media
[07:58] <randabis> array 4 is the latest milestone release of hoary
[07:58] <jdub> lakin: latest versioned test release for hoary
[07:58] <regeya> oh come on...go ahead and freeze hoary with a b0rked evolution.  we'll wait a few months.  we won't get any important email. ;-)
[07:58] <randabis> I don't even use evolution :p
[07:58] <Menaherann> did anybody got my message?
[07:59] <Dreamer3> ah, tty_tickets
[07:59] <Danko123456> yeah, me neither.
[07:59] <Dreamer3> neat
[07:59] <lakin> jdub: thanks.
[07:59] <Lokken> Possible that I may need to add some info to /etc/modules?
[07:59] <randabis> you shouldn't need to
[07:59] <randabis> but check lsmod
[07:59] <Lokken> Oh, I should mention that this is the AMD64 version too.
[07:59] <mebaran151> randabis, what do you use for contact management
[07:59] <randabis> thunderbird
[07:59] <Danko123456> Menaherann: I did I just dont know how to do anything about it.
[07:59] <regeya> I'd use Postilion.app, but I'm not a total freak
[07:59] <mebaran151> thunderbird only stores names and emails
[08:00] <randabis> that's all I need it to do
[08:00] <Dreamer3> hmmm, i'm guessing that upgradming my startup-notification to install xfce won't break anything?
[08:00] <mebaran151> I usu need phone numbers and addresses
[08:00] <lakin> I had a question I wanted to ask when coming in here, but then Tempura's question caught my eye, and now I can't remember what I wanted to ask.
[08:00] <randabis> lol
[08:00] <Danko123456> heh
[08:00] <Lokken> lsmod|grep snd shows a bunch of things. Among them, my emu10k1, bt87x (TV Card) and a couple of other little unimportant things.
[08:00] <Tempura> lol sorry
[08:00] <randabis> Lokken, maybe check the forums...I'm really not sure
[08:00] <pussfeller> kontact is alot more functional than evolution
[08:01] <Tempura> I'm going to delete windows and never look back
[08:01] <Lokken> This should be a quick and easy one, while I'm here... turning off the grouping of similar windows?
[08:01] <Danko123456> Please read : http://pastebin.com/239524 , if you already have not and know anything about dual booting.
[08:01] <lakin> Lokken: when you say "no sound" what exactly do you mean.  Do the sound programs "pretend" to play and you just don't get sound, or do they claim there isn't a device?
[08:01] <randabis> until you find something you want to do that only windows can...lolz
[08:01] <Menaherann> any other here understands what's happening with my thign?
[08:01] <Lokken> Pretend to play, no output.
[08:01] <Xappe> hmm, when installing games with cvscedega, what the h*ll do you do to be able to change cd?
[08:01] <lakin> Lokken: are the channels muted?
[08:01] <Lokken> Nope.
[08:01] <randabis> I asked that :p
[08:01] <Lokken> Checked, double checked.
[08:01] <Tempura> yes
[08:02] <jdub> Lokken: right click the little grippy to the left of the window buttons, click preferences
[08:02] <lakin> you un-muted EVERY channel?
[08:02] <Tempura> the epic chicken fight on family guy
[08:02] <lakin> (that one always gets me)
[08:02] <Lokken> Ah, missed that little thing jdub, stupid 1600x1200 res. :)
[08:02] <Lokken> The output ones, yes, Lakin.
[08:02] <randabis> Lokken you could also try using alsamixer
[08:02] <Lokken> I did it w/ the alsamixer :)
[08:02] <lakin> yeah, I use alsamixer to make sure.
[08:02] <redrum> hey all
[08:03] <Danko123456> hi
[08:03] <redrum> I'm struggling to get my sound working...
[08:03] <redrum> I think the system just isn't choosing the right 'device' to play on
[08:03] <lakin> the other thing that gets me is to make sure that the speakers are correctly plugged in.  (both fully plugged in, and plugged into the right connection)
[08:03] <Tempura> family guy is hilarious
[08:03] <Menaherann> I' sturggling to get my alaptop going...
[08:03] <Lokken> Sound works under WinXP, Warty, FC3, etc.
[08:04] <lakin> Oh! my question was about getting a laptop to go to sleep.  With debian my laptop always tried to go to sleep when I closed it.  With hoary it doesn't even attempt it.
[08:04] <redrum> i can run 'aplay' and specify '-D plug:iec958' and i get sound, but not through anything else
[08:04] <randabis> lakin mine used to, but it stopped sleeping lately
[08:04] <randabis> not sure
[08:04] <randabis> with hoary
[08:04] <redrum> so how do i get the sound to play through that device all the time?
[08:04] <Dreamer3> wait....
[08:04] <Dreamer3> it's not irssi that's changed
[08:04] <Dreamer3> it's screen
[08:04] <randabis> hah
[08:04] <Dreamer3> or ubuntu *light going on*
[08:05] <Dreamer3> hmmmmmmm
[08:05] <lakin> randabis, yeah, but it's an IBM thing and I was pretty sure that the IBM sleep was mostly hardware implemented?
[08:05] <randabis> not sure
[08:05] <Woodstxkk> Hello.  Can ubuntu be installed on an old 333 mhz iMac successfully?
[08:05] <randabis> I'm just tellin' ya you aren't the only one :p
[08:05] <Dreamer3> lakin: that's because ubuntu is acpi... you were using apm with debian?
[08:05] <lakin> Dreamer3, no, I think it was acpi with debian as well ( I rolled my own kernel ). but I'll check into that.
[08:05] <Menaherann> sooooooo... no hel[ here?
[08:06] <Dreamer3> lakin: if you have acpid installed you can configure it to do something when you close the lid without a lot of effort
[08:06] <Dreamer3> lakin: i don't really use my laptop like most though so i don't worry about such things
[08:06] <mebaran151> what is vbetool
[08:06] <Danko123456> at this time, I believe you are out of luck, Menaherann, but do not feel you are the only one, for my issue has not been solved either.
[08:06] <Tempura> well, I just deleted windows on my laptop
[08:06] <Danko123456> :)
[08:06] <randabis> dun dun dun
[08:06] <Danko123456> that is a very nice thing to do, Tempura.
[08:07] <Tempura> I'm not looking back
[08:07] <lakin> Dreamer3, I'll look into it.
[08:07] <Danko123456> I am proud of you...
[08:08] <randabis> no windows here either
[08:08] <lakin> Server running debian, laptop on ubuntu, desktop on ubuntu and macosx laptop for the girlfriend.
[08:08] <randabis> well, my sis still dual boots and my stepbro and dad still use it
[08:08] <Tempura> I'm not saying anything about anyone else's computer though
[08:08] <NuuB> crimsun: if you are around to see this, thank you for the help yesterday. i am now online via ubuntu
[08:08] <Menaherann> another question totaly different
[08:09] <redrum> i cant figure out HOW to boot my windows partition anymore...
[08:09] <randabis> edit menu.lst
[08:09] <Menaherann> this regarding configuring the internet in my desktop.
[08:09] <Dreamer3> anyone have any tips of keeping firefox loaded into memory all the time?
[08:09] <randabis> dunno
[08:09] <randabis> didn't like opera? ;p
[08:09] <lakin> Dreamer3, leave it open?
[08:09] <Dreamer3> lakin: well, sometimes i close the last window... need a hidden window or something
[08:09] <redrum> where is menu.lst located?
[08:10] <lakin> Dreamer3, I always have my gmail window open.
[08:10] <lakin> redrum, /boot/grub typically
[08:10] <randabis> i'm installing kde for the heck of it hah
[08:10] <mebaran151> randabis, no
[08:10] <mebaran151> NO
[08:10] <Menaherann> i connect via usb to the interent, how do i configure that in my ubuntu partiton?
[08:10] <randabis> my sessions selector is gonna be huge
[08:10] <mebaran151> ANOTHER ONE FALLS IN THE LINE OF DUTY
[08:10] <NuuB> is gcc part of the standard 1 cd install?
[08:10] <snowblink> redrum: you can find files on your system by using locate
[08:10] <Danko123456> Does your network use DHCP, or PPPoE?
[08:10] <mebaran151> what do you have randabis
[08:10] <Tempura> kind of ironic that I'm talking about formatting my laptop and installing ubuntu
[08:10] <mebaran151> ?
[08:10] <randabis> I didn't say I was gonna USE kde... :p
[08:11] <mebaran151> I have XFCE and Gnome installed
[08:11] <Tempura> when I'm using a windows pc to chat right now
[08:11] <Menaherann> is that with my, danko?
[08:11] <randabis> I have gnome, xfce, fluxbox, and now kde heh
[08:11] <mebaran151> XFCE is sexy
[08:11] <Danko123456> Yup.
[08:11] <randabis> I like choices
[08:11] <Menaherann> dhcp
[08:11] <redrum> how do i search for a file on my hd?
[08:11] <Danko123456> well, its not working?
[08:11] <randabis> locate foo
[08:11] <snowblink> redrum: you can find files on your system by using locate
[08:11] <mebaran151> I never like Fluxbox
[08:11] <mebaran151> I dont know why
[08:11] <mebaran151> XFCE seemed so much better
[08:12] <Menaherann> not in ubuntu, i'm connected thrugh my win partition
[08:12] <Danko123456> its supposed to work on install.
[08:12] <Danko123456> DHCP is.
[08:12] <Danko123456> I am not sure.
[08:12] <Menaherann> via usb?
[08:12] <Danko123456> sorry,
[08:12] <Danko123456> :)
[08:12] <randabis> Menaherann, it's a usb adapter?
[08:12] <Menaherann> yep
[08:13] <Menaherann> 2wire Pc Port
[08:13] <redrum> how do i list my partitions so i can find out which one has windows on it?
[08:13] <randabis> Menaherann, you'll need to find out if it is supported in linux, look for a driver, compile it and install it
[08:13] <Menaherann> -piece of shit- but the only one o have right now1
[08:13] <Danko123456> fdisk
[08:13] <mebaran151> cfdisk
[08:13] <Danko123456> fdisk /dev/hda
[08:13] <mebaran151> qtparted
[08:13] <snowblink> redrum: sudo fdisk -l
[08:13] <Danko123456> either will do.
[08:13] <mebaran151> all these programs can do it
[08:14] <randabis> depending on the chipset, ndiswrapper might work for it, or it might have a native linux driver
[08:14] <Danko123456> and yes, sudo.
[08:14] <lakin> later guys.
[08:14] <mebaran151> qtparted or cfdisk might work out ok
[08:14] <redrum> thx all
[08:14] <Menaherann> ok... i belive is not. at lest the website doesn't tell me anithing
[08:14] <Danko123456> yup.
[08:14] <randabis> you said you used mandrake before? did it ever work in mandrake?
[08:14] <Menaherann> when i go to the device manager is recognized though.
[08:15] <mebaran151> on ubuntu
[08:15] <mebaran151> can I reenable the root account
[08:15] <randabis> sure you can
[08:15] <mebaran151> or is that going to be difficult
[08:15] <mebaran151> and not worth the time
[08:15] <randabis> don't know why you'd want to though
[08:15] <Agrajag> yes, but there's really no reason to
[08:15] <mebaran151> yeah
[08:15] <Agrajag> sudo does the same thing su does, only better
[08:15] <mebaran151> I like sudo
[08:15] <mebaran151> a bit
[08:15] <mebaran151> but sometimes I pine for the good old days
[08:15] <Agrajag> sudo -s if you really need a plain root shell
[08:15] <mebaran151> with the wheel group
[08:15] <mebaran151> ah
[08:16] <mebaran151> I know about sudo
[08:16] <mebaran151> but sometimes I feel it is overkill
[08:16] <mebaran151> su always served me fine
[08:16] <Agrajag> and using a root password isn't?
[08:16] <mebaran151> although being able to execute one command with sudo is nice
[08:16] <mebaran151> Agrajag
[08:17] <Menaherann> any alternatives?
[08:17] <mebaran151> I guess it all is
[08:17] <mebaran151> just pondering
[08:17] <mebaran151> see
[08:17] <mebaran151> I got my system all working
[08:17] <Agrajag> sudo lets you set finer permissions for root access
[08:17] <mebaran151> so now I have to go about hacking it to death
[08:17] <Agrajag> much nicer for multiuser systems
[08:17] <Agrajag> mostly unnecessary for a desktop though
[08:18] <Danko123456> Menaherann: You looked at the documentation on the website?
[08:18] <Danko123456> the ubuntu one...
[08:18] <Menaherann> nope.
[08:18] <Menaherann> which docimentation do you mean, exactly/
[08:18] <Danko123456> Check this page out then, I am not sure if it helps.
[08:18] <Menaherann> ??
[08:18] <Danko123456> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HardwareSupportComponentsWiredNetworkCards/view?searchterm=usb
[08:19] <Menaherann> is it a problem with my network card or my adapter?
[08:19] <Danko123456> I dont know...
[08:19] <redrum> can someone show me what their menu.lst entry looks like for booting winxp?
[08:19] <Danko123456> Try this page for your laptop too.
[08:19] <Danko123456> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops/view?searchterm=usb
[08:19] <Danko123456> http://rafb.net/paste/results/EZfRFd73.html redrum
[08:19] <Tempura> how long does it normally take to install everything?
[08:20] <Dreamer3> is there a way to tell ubuntu not to load certail modules?
[08:20] <Danko123456> that is for when you want the windows to start automatically.
[08:20] <Danko123456> Unless you go to te grub menu,...
[08:20] <Danko123456> if you tell me which partition your windows is...
[08:20] <Danko123456> Ill tell you what yours should look like.
[08:20] <Tempura> I would have expected it to be done by now
[08:20] <redrum> sda1
[08:21] <Danko123456> hmph.
[08:21] <randabis> brb
[08:21] <Danko123456> then I am not sure.
[08:21] <Danko123456> Anyone else?
[08:21] <redrum> why is it different?
[08:22] <Dreamer3> anyone?
[08:22] <Danko123456> Basically, I think you would change the root line to...root		(sd0,0)??
[08:22] <Dreamer3> i want to stop the OSS mixer from loading
[08:22] <Danko123456> cause it is on a different partition.
[08:22] <redrum> ok
[08:22] <redrum> i'll give it a shot
[08:22] <Danko123456> well, I would wait if I were you.
[08:23] <redrum> think i might screw everything up?
[08:23] <Danko123456> Cause the (sd0,0) is just a guess.
[08:23] <Danko123456> WEll, no, I dont think so.
[08:23] <Danko123456> Just maybe someone else tells you exactly what to do, I mean what the heck, try it...
[08:23] <Danko123456> :)
[08:24] <redrum> well the ubuntu entries are all hd(0,2)... but the boot partition for ubuntu is sda3
[08:24] <Danko123456> is the windows the fuirst partition?
[08:24] <redrum> yes
[08:24] <Danko123456> then do .root		(h0,0)
[08:24] <Danko123456> I mean it should work.
[08:25] <redrum> ok i'll try
[08:25] <Danko123456> What do you have on the second partition?
[08:25] <Menaherann> well, danko my network card is suppported and with flying collors....
[08:25] <Danko123456> Great!
[08:25] <Danko123456> :)
[08:25] <redrum> you know what, i'm not too sure
[08:26] <Menaherann> howvere my laptop is a satelite 1555cds
[08:26] <Danko123456> Maybe I just solved my own problem.
[08:26] <Danko123456> Ill brb, gotta try something.
[08:26] <Menaherann> there are othere toshiba satelites but not that one
[08:26] <Menaherann> hmmmm.....
[08:26] <Danko123456> try root		(h0,0), then if that does not do it root		(h0,1), redrum.
[08:27] <Menaherann> beacuse the thing is that my laptop  right now it has the pretty ubuntu screnn  asking me to log in.
[08:27] <Lokken> Okay, so fixed my sound problem from earlier.
[08:27] <Danko123456> Then it may not be supported, I really dont know much about this stuff, Menaherann, maybe you can try in a few hours here, some of  the guys are really good at this stuff.
[08:27] <Lokken> Was one little setting that I overlooked.
[08:27] <FAST> so ehhh... anyone know how to get dcc to work if you're behind a router?
[08:27] <Tempura> how long does it usually take to install ubuntu?
[08:28] <Lokken> alsamixer was set to use digital out instead of analog.
[08:28] <mebaran151> dcc?
[08:28] <mebaran151> is that like distributed compiling
[08:28] <mebaran151> or something
[08:28] <mebaran151> it sounds like it
[08:28] <randabis> HAH
[08:28] <randabis> I booted kde
[08:28] <FAST> nope, just normal IRC dcc
[08:28] <randabis> and gdesklets works with it lol
[08:29] <mebaran151> oh
[08:29] <NuuB> does ubuntu have a download manager that can optimize for 56k and handle resumes incase of disconnect?
[08:29] <Lokken> wget?
[08:29] <mebaran151> NuuB, wget
[08:29] <mebaran151> is awesome for everything under 2 gigs
[08:29] <Lokken> I need a good iTunes replacement.
[08:30] <Lokken> Rhythmbox just doesn't cut it.
[08:30] <NuuB> even on 56k which periodically disconnects (this would be good) - i'll look it up
[08:30] <mebaran151> Lokken, hahahahahahahahahahahahah
[08:30] <Tempura> it's going to be hard learning how to use linux instead of windows
[08:30] <Tempura> but I don't care
[08:30] <snowblink> Lokken: amarok?
[08:31] <stuNNed> NuuB: prozilla as well but servers usually don't like it
[08:31] <Lokken> Perhaps... Haven't checked that out yet.
[08:31] <Tempura> too late to change my mind now
[08:31] <stuNNed> NuuB: or downloader for x
[08:31] <stuNNed> Lokken: muine is nice
[08:31] <Lokken> Whoa... I need to install KDE for Amarok :(
[08:31] <Lokken> That in the repos?
[08:32] <alka_trash> Hey all  !
[08:32] <mebaran151> Lokken, everything is the repos
[08:32] <mebaran151> what do you need of itunes
[08:32] <mebaran151> though
[08:32] <Lokken> In the AMD64 repos?
[08:32] <mebaran151> yep
[08:32] <alka_trash> Hey you guys ( goonies )
[08:32] <mebaran151> I am on AMD64
[08:32] <redrum> it worked
[08:34] <alka_trash> skype?
[08:34] <Lokken> Something that can handle my 12k songs.
[08:34] <mebaran151> I have you ever thought of using your fs to organize your music
[08:34] <alka_trash> anyone had any success with skype?
[08:34] <mebaran151> most people dont see how good folders and symlinks can be
[08:34] <mebaran151> heh
[08:34] <Lokken> Oh, it's very organized on my drive....
[08:34] <mebaran151> but then again I like to do everything from the cli
[08:34] <ProgramGeek> Hey... Does anyone here know anyways to make gnome or kde looks pretty?
[08:34] <Lokken> But, I liked iTunes 'smart playlists'
[08:34] <mebaran151> oh
[08:34] <mebaran151> lokken
[08:34] <alka_trash> ProgramGeek: yep
[08:34] <mebaran151> dll xmms
[08:34] <mebaran151> and get imms
[08:34] <mebaran151> does about the same thing
[08:34] <mebaran151> if your music is organized well
[08:34] <mebaran151> XMMS will serve you ok
[08:34] <Lokken> Excellent. Have XMMS already :)
[08:34] <mebaran151> imms
[08:34] <mebaran151> I think there is another that does the same thign
[08:34] <Lokken> Yep.
[08:34] <_4strO> Player: ( xmms 1.2.10 ) Volume: ( 74% ) Title: ( /windows/musique2/a trier/[Nipponsei]  samurai champloo music record depature [Nujabes & fat jon] / Nujabes + Fat Jon - 5. mystline ) Time: ( 3:30/4:50 (72%) ) BitRate: ( 192 kbit/s - 44100 Hz )
[08:35] <_4strO> ^^
[08:35] <alka_trash> ProgramGeek: go to http://art.gnome.org/ and http://www.gnome-look.org/
[08:35] <Lokken> Hoary is so much more responsive than XP
[08:35] <mebaran151> gnomp3 is good if you are into a db of mp3
[08:35] <alka_trash> Lokken: it does seem little snappier
[08:35] <Gatin> hi
[08:35] <Lokken> Heh, just a little ;)
[08:35] <redrum> does anyone here run seti@home?
[08:35] <Gatin> i am chilien
[08:36] <stuNNed> hi Gatin
[08:36] <Gatin> can you  writen good ?
[08:36] <Gatin> pleace
[08:36] <mebaran151> Lokken, so does imms do the job
[08:37] <FAST> why would anyone care about volume percent, track position, bitrate....
[08:37] <mebaran151> for smart playlists
[08:37] <mebaran151> the only thing I think XMMS should add
[08:37] <alka_trash> just wondering abut xorg.conf file, does anyone have any suggesting on tweaking it, like what modules not to load
[08:37] <Lokken> It might... haven't checked it out just yet.
[08:37] <mebaran151> is the ability to burn cd
[08:37] <mebaran151> audio
[08:37] <mebaran151> that sort of thing
[08:37] <mebaran151> it does everything else perfectly well
[08:37] <mebaran151> alka_trash, xorg.conf is set up for maximum use on default
[08:38] <Danko123451>  Gatin: can you  writen good ?- I dont think anyone understood that one..
[08:38] <mebaran151> so performance tweaks are hard to comeby
[08:38] <mebaran151> resolution tweeks maybe
[08:38] <Gatin> I have a problem with the audio
[08:38] <alka_trash> okay
[08:38] <Gatin> don't working the audio in the Totem
[08:39] <alka_trash> brb
[08:39] <mebaran151> nighty night
[08:40] <Gatin> help me
[08:40] <Danko123451> Have you looked at http://ubuntuguide.org ?
[08:40] <Danko123451> Gatin...
[08:41] <alka_trash> back
[08:41] <Gatin> thank you Danko123451
[08:42] <Gatin> i will seek in this page
[08:42] <Danko123451> heh
[08:42] <Danko123451> yw
[08:42] <Danko123451> Does it help?
[08:42] <Danko123451> all ruight, do so...that is as much as I know about that.
[08:43] <alka_trash> anyone tried ubuntu on a G3 mac? I have one at work that's just sitting on the self
[08:43] <Lokken> Heh, gnomp3 is crunching through my music collection.
[08:44] <Menaherann> what does it mean:  KDKSBENT : invalid argument failed to bind key 255 to value 875?
[08:44] <Menaherann> i get that everytime i boot
[08:45] <redrum> can anyone help me get my sound working?
[08:47] <Lokken> redrum, what sound card?
[08:48] <NuuB> ok i am reading the --help details of wget. do i need to use --continue right away or only if --tries=0 and --retry-connrefused do not get the complete download?
[08:49] <mpq> woo
[08:49] <mpq> I'm free from windows
[08:49] <Danko123451> :)
[08:49] <mpq> now I just need to know how to set up my wireless card to run in linux
[08:49] <Danko123451> on what?
[08:50] <mpq> I have a wireless card in my laptop
[08:50] <Danko123451> whats the card...
[08:50] <Danko123451> What model/brand.
[08:50] <mpq> I don't know how to find out
[08:50] <Danko123451> I would like to tell you, but...
[08:50] <Danko123451> Maybe look at your receipt.
[08:51] <mpq> it came with the computer
[08:51] <mpq> it's built in
[08:51] <Danko123451> k later, guys, dont feel bad Im leaving, mpq, I didnt know how to fix it anyhow.
[08:51] <alka_trash> mpq: try a command line lspci
[08:51] <mpq> ah, that's it
[08:51] <mpq> it's broadcom
[08:52] <alka_trash> hmmm
[08:52] <alka_trash> I think that you have to use the ndiswrapper with that one
[08:52] <mpq> the button that turns on the card doesn't do anything in linux
[08:53] <alka_trash> yep, you need to have the drive control the device and then it should work
[08:53] <mpq> how do I do that?
[08:53] <redrum> can someone tell me how to get my dang sound to work properly
[08:53] <Anubis> deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ stable main
[08:53] <Anubis> Can I use this iwht Hoary?^^^^
[08:53] <alka_trash> go to ndiswrapper's homepage and see if they support it
[08:53] <Anubis> redrum, gotta be more specific
[08:54] <redrum> i have sound if I type 'aplay -D plug:iec958 foo.wav', but not when i try it through any media programs
[08:54] <redrum> it's like this iec958 device is what it needs to play the sound through, but doesn't do it by default...
[08:54] <guim> hi all
[08:54] <guim> what is hoary exactly?
[08:55] <alka_trash> guim: it the unstable version of ubuntu
[08:55] <guim> ok
[08:55] <lakin> The good news is that sleep seems to be working.
[08:55] <guim> thank you
[08:56] <guim> is it possible to download and test it yet?
[08:56] <alka_trash> it's a little buggy but it has the latest she-ought
[08:56] <alka_trash> guim: ye[
[08:56] <guim> the thing is that CD I got don't work on my pc
[08:57] <alka_trash> hmm
[08:57] <redrum> i had a problem installing hoary from the downloaded CD also
[08:57] <guim> some people already tried to help here (and thankyou again) but there is problem
[08:57] <alka_trash> guim: try this one
[08:57] <alka_trash> guim: ftp://cdimage.ubuntulinux.org/cdimage/releases/hoary/array-4/hoary-install-i386.iso
[08:58] <guim> thank you
[08:58] <alka_trash> it's hoary install
[08:58] <redrum> is that a new iso?
[08:58] <alka_trash> or even this one, it's a live cd
[08:58] <alka_trash> ftp://cdimage.ubuntulinux.org/cdimage/releases/hoary/array-4/hoary-live-i386.iso
[08:58] <redrum> i just installed the warty version, then upgraded
[08:58] <alka_trash> pretty much the same thing
[08:59] <alka_trash> redrum: no, it just a snapshot of current development
[08:59] <guim> here is my problem : isolinux don't detect my keyboard
[09:00] <NuuB> ok i am reading the --help details of wget. do i need to use --continue right away or only if --tries=0 and --retry-connrefused do not get the complete download?
[09:00] <alka_trash> guim: usb keyboard?
[09:00] <guim> the "sarge" installer do exactly the same
[09:00] <guim> no, not usb
[09:00] <bob2> NuuB: the latter
[09:00] <guim> the "num lock" light don't even change, if you see what i mean
[09:01] <alka_trash> what kind of comptuer?
[09:01] <guim> amd athlon 1600 xp
[09:01] <guim> ddr266
[09:01] <NuuB> bob2: thank you
[09:01] <guim> i found someone xho reported a bug close to this on the website
[09:01] <redrum> how/where do i specify which default sound device i want the OS to use?
[09:02] <guim> but i did'nt really understood the message
[09:02] <alka_trash> if you have the bandwidth I would download the latest delvelop or get a usb keyboard
[09:02] <guim> i am downloading it
[09:03] <alka_trash> kewl
[09:03] <guim> but i have no usb keyboard
[09:03] <guim> you think a usb keyboard will solve this?
[09:03] <alka_trash> maybe, install with apci turned off  :/
[09:03] <guim> how do i do that?
[09:03] <guim> what is apci?
[09:04] <alka_trash> advance power control i** something
[09:04] <guim> must be set in bios?
[09:04] <alka_trash> can you get into your bios with your keyboard?
[09:04] <guim> yes
[09:04] <guim> i can
[09:05] <alka_trash> when you put the ubuntu cd in, press F1 or something like that go to expert and you should have an option to install without apci
[09:05] <alka_trash> hell, how old is your bios?
[09:05] <kniteshade> how come i cant see kernel-image-2.6.9.1-686 when i do an apt-cache search - ive changed all the 'warty' to 'howary' in the packages.list file - and ran apt-get update, but it still isn't htere ?
[09:06] <guim> i don't know
[09:06] <guim> i never changed it i think
 when you put the ubuntu cd in, press F1 or something like that go to expert and you should have an option to install without apci
[09:07] <guim> but i think i don't have any moment to do that
[09:07] <guim> cause the keyboard never start when the pc loads the CD
[09:08] <guim> so pressing F1 is nerver "seen"
[09:08] <alka_trash> oops
[09:08] <guim> :)
[09:08] <alka_trash> this is like the Microsoft error,  Keyboard error - Press F1 to continue
[09:08] <alka_trash> :0
[09:08] <guim> so i can't install without apci
[09:08] <alka_trash> :)
[09:08] <guim> yes :))
[09:09] <alka_trash> download
[09:09] <alka_trash> maybe check your bios date too
[09:09] <guim> i should get to the latest bios ?
[09:09] <alka_trash> I personall would try the latest CD first
[09:10] <guim> yes
[09:10] <alka_trash> I once hosed a computer while updating the bios
[09:10] <guim> :/
[09:10] <guim> dangerous operation
[09:10] <alka_trash> yep
[09:10] <alka_trash> what type of board?
[09:10] <guim> if you are not sure of what you are doing
[09:10] <guim> MSI k7
[09:10] <guim> 2.0
[09:11] <guim> something like that
[09:11] <alka_trash> Those are great
[09:11] <NuuB> how do i know if wget is working? i thought it would spit out a detail of it's activity
[09:11] <guim> with sounf but no etho on it
[09:11] <guim> sound but no ethernet
[09:11] <alka_trash> I hate to say it, but you can update your bios from windows with live-bios
[09:11] <guim> i added an ethernet card on it
[09:12] <guim> ok thanks
[09:12] <mpq> I'm starting to get the hang of this
[09:12] <alka_trash> check out msi's site
[09:12] <guim> yes
[09:13] <alka_trash> nice!, check out this arstechnica gave ubuntu two awards http://arstechnica.com/columns/linux/linux-20050102.ars
[09:13] <alka_trash> Best community and Distribution of the year
[09:14] <kniteshade> anyone know how i can get kernel-image-2.6.9 ?  - its not in apt-cache..
[09:15] <kniteshade> kernel-tree and kernel-source are, but i dont think they're the ones i need...
[09:15] <alka_trash> kniteshade: http://ftp.nluug.nl/ftp/pub/os/Linux/distr/ubuntu/pool/universe/k/
[09:15] <alka_trash> googled it
[09:16] <alka_trash> kniteshade:  can't say that it's legit though
[09:16] <alka_trash> kniteshade:  download that turkey and dpkg -i package.deb
[09:17] <Zimbabwe> How I can install Ubuntu as text version
[09:17] <Zimbabwe> I mean, not graphical
[09:18] <jdub> Zimbabwe: warty or hoary?
[09:18] <alka_trash> Zimbabwe: when you boot from the install cd, when it prompt you to hit enter type: expert
[09:18] <jdub> Zimbabwe: on warty, boot the installer with 'custom'; on hoary, boot the installer with 'server'
[09:18] <jdub> do *not* use 'expert'
[09:18] <jdub> that does a completely different thing
[09:18] <jdub> and is very annoying
[09:18] <alka_trash> oh
[09:19] <alka_trash> oops
[09:19] <Zimbabwe> Hmm
[09:19] <alka_trash> minimal?
[09:19] <cthulfuego> Zimbabwe: Note that you'll probably still need additional drivers for the wifi,
[09:20] <redrum> ok i made some headway to getting my sound working
[09:20] <Zimbabwe> How I can "boot installer with 'custom'" ?
[09:21] <jdub> Zimbabwe: type custom at the installer boot prompt
[09:21] <redrum> I installed xmms.  Then through preferences I changed the output plugin to use ALSA output plugin instead of OSS Driver
[09:21] <redrum> that got me sound
[09:21] <redrum> now can someone give me a push in the right direction?
[09:21] <Zimbabwe> Then when it says "Press enter to boot", then I should write "custom" and press enter+
[09:21] <Zimbabwe> ?
[09:22] <jdub> Zimbabwe: yes
[09:22] <Zimbabwe> Is that installer same installer as normal?
[09:22] <jdub> yes
[09:22] <jdub> it just installs the base system
[09:23] <jdub> and doesn't drill holes in your head with silly questions
[09:23] <Zimbabwe> Ok
[09:23] <|QuaD-> is there a way to get a transcript of the ubuntu meetings?
[09:23] <jdub> |QuaD-: minutes are always announced on -news
[09:23] <dud> hmm, my delete key seems to malfunction after a hoary upgrade yesterday... isnt that odd
[09:24] <mlambie> jdub: do you know anything about the ubuntu conference prior to LCA?
[09:24] <|QuaD-> jdub: the mailing list?
[09:24] <jdub> mlambie: it will be after lca, in sydney.
[09:24] <jdub> |QuaD-: yes
[09:24] <jdub> mlambie: proper announcement soonish
[09:25] <Zimbabwe> What is different by 4.10 and warty?
[09:25] <mlambie> jdub: wicked, because i'm planning time off for LCA and wanted to squeeze some ubuntu love in too :)
[09:25] <|QuaD-> jdub: ok... are they minutes or a transcript?
[09:25] <jdub> mlambie: http://www.ubuntu.com/wiki/UbuntuDownUnder
[09:25] <jdub> |QuaD-: both, usually
[09:25] <mpq> what do I use to view animated .gif files?
[09:25] <jdub> Zimbabwe: warty warthog is the codename for Ubuntu 4.10
[09:25] <|QuaD-> nice :)
[09:25] <Zimbabwe> Ijj
[09:26] <mlambie> jdub: ace, thanks. i had searched the wiki earlier and not found anything.
[09:26] <|QuaD-> another conference! too bad it has to be durring finals
[09:26] <|QuaD-> lol
[09:26] <mpq> I don't know what to use to view animated gifs
[09:27] <jdub> mpq: your browser...
[09:27] <mpq> is that it?
[09:27] <jdub> mlambie: the main search thingy doesn't find wikis based on the page title ;)
[09:28] <jdub> mpq: i'm sure there are plenty of other things, but i'm suggesting the easiest
[09:28] <mpq> what about flash?
[09:29] <mpq> totem doesn't work
[09:29] <jdub> again, use firefox, it'll help you install a flashplayer when you use it
[09:29] <mlambie> can anyone recommend a package that does a full disk image? ideally it would save the image to a samba server and include a bootable CD, or similar solution. I want to be able to "save" my system in its current state, mess and break things, then return it to what I have now.
[09:30] <mlambie> this machine only has a single disk, so it needs to be able to dump over the network.
[09:30] <|QuaD-> hmm, debating... should i run a groupware server or just use imap/ldap/webdav?
[09:30] <mpq> it didn't
[09:30] <mpq> I tried to open a flash file
[09:30] <mpq> and firefox wanted me to open totem
[09:30] <jdub> go to a webpage that requires flash
[09:31] <jdub> that'll do the plugin stuff
[09:31] <TheMuso> mlambie: You could use partimage to image the parition where you want, an dthen use a live CD with partimage to restore it.
[09:31] <jdub> if firefox tries to open totem to view a flash file, that's a bug, please file it
[09:31] <mpq> it's not trying to download the plugin at all
[09:31] <mlambie> TheMuso: thanks for the tip. do you know if that will that save to network storage?
[09:31] <randabis> ah, good ol' xfce
[09:32] <TheMuso> mlambie: If you mount the storage first, and then save the file there, it will.
[09:32] <mlambie> ofcourse. thanks
[09:32] <mpq> firefox isn't even trying to download the flash plugin
[09:33] <mpq> is anyone else having trouble viewing flash in firefox?
[09:33] <randabis> you're probably using warty
[09:33] <mpq> no wonder, I'm not even on 1.0
[09:34] <randabis> yeah, you used ubuntu warty...it's aging :/ still great though
[09:34] <randabis> you'll need to download the flash plugin from macromedia and install it manually
[09:34] <mpq> first I'm upgrading to firefox 1.0
[09:35] <Dreamer3> boy, gnome seems really flakey
[09:35] <randabis> heh
[09:35] <TheMuso> Dreamer3: In warty or Hoary?
[09:35] <Zimbabwe> I cant connect with putty to my Ubuntu which is not graphical system?
[09:36] <jdub> Zimbabwe: install openssh-server
[09:36] <Dreamer3> TheMuso: warty, seems i change a few things (icons, backgrounds, themes) and suddenly i'm having to restart (nautilus, panel, etc) to see any change... this just stop working right
[09:36] <TheMuso> Ah right.
[09:36] <Dreamer3> TheMuso: earliers themes weren't changing (restart gnome)... then the background wouldn't take (restart nautilus)
[09:36] <mpq> Burger King commercials are so stupid
[09:36] <jdub> Dreamer3: there was a lingering, incredibly difficult to find gconf bug that has very recently been fixed which caused that to happen
[09:37] <jdub> Dreamer3: it has been around for a *long* time
[09:37] <Dreamer3> jdub: i see
[09:37] <jdub> (not yet in hoary, i don't believe)
[09:37] <jdub> need a gconf release
[09:37] <Dreamer3> so no hope for me :)
[09:37] <Zimbabwe> Just "install openssh-server" ?
[09:37] <jdub> it's intermittent
[09:37] <jdub> Zimbabwe: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[09:38] <jdub> actually, perhaps the fix was in the last release of gconf
[09:38] <Zimbabwe> Now it works :)
[09:39] <Dreamer3> ok
[09:39] <Dreamer3> how can i make Window-1 a shortcut... it keeps taking as soon as i hit the window key and won't let me make it a combo
[09:40] <Dreamer3> i know i had this on debian, because i used window-1, window-2, etc to get to workspace
[09:40] <randabis> bah this torrent sucks :/
[09:40] <randabis> needs SEEDS
[09:40] <randabis> it has one :/
[09:40] <bob2> make the window key a modifier
[09:40] <bob2> e.g. meta
[09:40] <bob2> in the gnome keyboard thing
[09:40] <ubuntu> hello
[09:41] <butt> hello
[09:41] <Dreamer3> bob2: how? i'm in the keyboard dialog now
[09:41] <ubuntu> i was wondering if anyone can help me, I seem to not be able to get my mouse working after install of ubuntu
[09:41] <bob2> *shrug*, read all the options
[09:41] <butt> actually i was having that same problem :|
[09:43] <ubuntu> can someone help me? i can't seem to be able to run xorg or anything to set up my mouse
[09:43] <ubuntu> how do i run xorg command line?
[09:44] <Dreamer3> bob2: ok, is there a way to make window pop up the gnome menu?
[09:44] <Dreamer3> bob2: or do i do that once i set it up as meta?
[09:44] <Dreamer3> hmmm
[09:44] <bob2> I don't know what that first sentence meant
[09:45] <Dreamer3> i want the windows key to pop up the gnome menu as well as be usable in shortcuts
[09:47] <Zimbabwe> I cant still connect to my ubuntu
[09:47] <FAST> anyone have any idea how to modify the mount settings for hotplug devices? (firewire hard drives..)
[09:47] <FAST> automount, that is
[09:48] <butt> ..........lol more people more problemS :)
[09:48] <Zimbabwe> It just says: "connectiong timed out"
[09:48] <bob2> FAST: pmount is what you need to configure
[09:48] <butt> still can't figure out how to 1) run xorg command line and not gui, and 2) get my mouse working :(
[09:48] <bob2> 1) makes no sense
[09:48] <bob2> 2) is a bug if it didn't happen automagically
[09:49] <butt> bob2: how do i get it workin then?
[09:49] <bob2> fix it manually, I suppose
[09:49] <bob2> you're certainly more likely to get an answer on the list, tho
[09:49] <FAST> bob2, how do i go about doing that?  is there some kind of config file somewhere to edit?
[09:50] <butt> i looked on forums didn't see anything
[09:50] <butt> i see lots of people who have this problem
[09:50] <bob2> yes, that's the forums for you
[09:50] <butt> if i can get it done, ill post a nice step by step..
[09:50] <jdub> butt: run 'X'
[09:51] <butt> k, how?
[09:51] <infoe> hi
[09:51] <butt> exec x?
[09:51] <infoe> should i move to ubuntu from gentoo?
[09:51] <butt> jdub: im very new to linux.. i dunno where x is and 2nd how to run it
[09:51] <bob2> butt: just run the command 'X'
[09:52] <bob2> infoe: of course.
[09:52] <infoe> lol
[09:52] <infoe> bob2: why?
[09:52] <bob2> because then you'll be using ubuntu, not gentoo
[09:52] <butt> bash:    x: command not found
[09:52] <bob2> which is always a good thing
[09:52] <infoe> i mean to say, what is the most benificial aspect of ubuntu?
[09:52] <bob2> butt: X
[09:52] <lithi_> hey, new ubuntu user here, I wanted to know why I cant su to root using bash its giving me passwd errors yet I can sudo just fine
[09:53] <jdub> lithi_: www.ubuntu.com/wiki/RootSudo
[09:53] <infoe> gentoo is a pretty good distro in contrast to the others i've used
[09:53] <butt> k, just X then ill try it thanks for helping me
[09:53] <infoe> lithi: are you in the wheel user group?
[09:53] <bob2> infoe: dude, this is not gentoo
[09:53] <infoe> my bad
[09:54] <bob2> lithi_: sudo -s
[09:54] <bob2> and it's quite amusing gentoo uses the wheel group
[09:54] <bob2> I didn't htink anyone did anymore
[09:54] <infoe> bsd does
[09:54] <bob2> (nice rant in the 'su' infor page)
[09:54] <infoe> woah...
[09:54] <infoe> ubuntu == cock central
[09:54] <bob2> huh?
[09:54] <lithi_> jdub: Isint that just handy :) Thanks
[09:56] <FAST> bob2, could you point me in the right direction for editing pmount settings, etc?
[09:57] <bob2> FAST: I'm not sure where it's stored, pitti wrote it, tho
[09:57] <Zimbabwe> I have put like this: "sudo apt-get install openssh-server" and then I try to connect to my ubuntu with putty, but putty only says: "Connection timed out", why+
[09:57] <pitti> FAST: which settings?
[09:57] <FAST> pitti?
[09:57] <FAST> oh
[09:57] <pitti> FAST: pmount does not have a configuration file
[09:58] <calamari> how many case fans will I need for a 2.4 GHz p4 w/ stock cpu fan?
[09:58] <FAST> pitti, im looking to change the settings that automatically mount an external firewire hard drive.
[09:58] <pitti> FAST: what's wrong with it?
[09:58] <bob2> Zimbabwe: sounds like a network problem
[09:58] <Zimbabwe> But
[09:58] <Zimbabwe> No
[09:58] <bob2> pitti: he/she wants to mount it asyn or such
[09:59] <pitti> FAST: ah, you are using warty?
[09:59] <FAST> would like to change the permissions and name (not sda1), etc when it is plugged in
[09:59] <bob2> Zimbabwe: well, it is a network problem
[09:59] <FAST> yes
[09:59] <FAST> warty
[09:59] <Zimbabwe> I have downloaded psybnc software from internet on that server, and i'm Ircing now with computer which have putty
[09:59] <pitti> FAST: hoary has lots of improvements with this
[09:59] <bob2> Zimbabwe: either on your ubuntu machine o ron the machines in front of it
[09:59] <FAST> such as>
[09:59] <FAST> ?
[09:59] <pitti> FAST: it will automatically mount your hd "async" (i. e. faaast) and give it a proper name
[09:59] <FAST> what about file permissions?
[09:59] <pitti> FAST: if you want this now, you need pmount, hal, and gnome-volume-manager from hoary
[10:00] <FAST> i can use them on warty?
[10:00] <pitti> FAST: what's wrong with the permissions?
[10:00] <pitti> FAST: you have to do a partial upgrade; I never tried this, though
[10:00] <pitti> FAST: however, some guys did Warty backports of recent hoary software
[10:00] <FAST> to be honest, i dont think there is anything wrong. but i ran into a problem when trying to share a subfolder on external firewire drive through samba, and that's where i left off
[10:01] <Zimbabwe> Well, when i'm trying to "make menuconfig" ubuntu says: "Make no such bash" or something, whats wrong?
[10:01] <FAST> had to do with not being able to access folders
[10:01] <FAST> the X execute permission wasn't set or some odd
[10:01] <bob2> Zimbabwe: install build-essential and libncurses5-dev
[10:01] <Zimbabwe> Just like that, to console: "install build-essential" ?
[10:02] <pitti> FAST: yes, warty does not allow to execute files on USB/FireWire devices by default
[10:02] <FAST> this is what im trying to change, but because it is a fat32 formatted drive, i am unable to set permissions for it
[10:02] <FAST> that's what i am told
[10:03] <FAST> though i have been able to add an entry in fstab with options set, but this is not what id like, and i think it still didn't work properly
[10:03] <bob2> Zimbabwe: no, they're packages ytou install
[10:03] <bob2> Zimbabwe: however you normlly install packages
[10:03] <Zimbabwe> So what i should do?
[10:04] <bob2> install them
[10:04] <bob2> however you normally install packages
[10:04] <Zimbabwe> How?
[10:04] <bob2> if you haven't installed any before, you should just say that
[10:04] <bob2> since it's annoying to guess what you don't know
[10:05] <Zimbabwe> Well how I install those?
[10:05] <bob2> wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[10:05] <Zimbabwe> I dont have graphical ubutu
[10:06] <bob2> cool
[10:06] <bob2> then use apt-get
[10:06] <Zimbabwe> How? :D
[10:06] <Bigglez> type man apt-get
[10:06] <Dreamer3> when i log into gdm there are clicks while the sound is playing... i can play it myself from a terminal with no problems... any idea how to eliminate teh clicks?
[10:06] <bob2> sudo apt-get install build-essential libncurses5-dev
[10:07] <Zimbabwe> "sudo apt-get install build-essential" <- Like that?
[10:07] <bob2> no
[10:07] <bob2> like what I said
[10:07] <FAST> pitti, any suggestions?
[10:07] <bob2> you need libncurses5-dev as well if you want to use menuconfig
[10:07] <Zimbabwe> sudo apt-get install libncurses5-dev ?
[10:07] <pitti> FAST: in fact, addding an fstab entry is the only easy and sane way to alter the settings in Warty
[10:08] <bob2> 19:06:53           bob2 | sudo apt-get install build-essential libncurses5-dev
[10:08] <Zimbabwe> Ok...
[10:08] <pitti> FAST: you must only make sure that the drive is permanently connected
[10:08] <pitti> FAST: otherwise it could get another name (sdb instead of sda, or so)
[10:08] <FAST> yeah i experienced that before
[10:09] <lithi_> what username / password do I use to login to cups via web interface? root / my user accuont dont work
[10:09] <Schaap> Hi, i just replaced a vga card but the resolution i wa working in, is not supported by de new one, how do i reset the resolution Gnome was working in ?
[10:09] <bob2> lithi_: you don't, use the one in the computer menu
[10:09] <Agabus> hey i just installed a hoary hedgehog but i don't believe i was asked to put in a root password. is there a default one?
[10:10] <bob2> Agabus: please read the FAQ
[10:10] <Agabus> k
[10:10] <bob2> Agabus: or the text it printed out during the install about how there is no root account
[10:10] <jdub> Agabus: www.ubuntu.com/wiki/RootSudo
[10:10] <lithi_> bob2: Im sorry where?
[10:11] <Agabus> k cheers man
[10:11] <Schaap> Gnome, resolution setting from command line
[10:11] <Schaap> anyone?
[10:11] <jdub> Schaap: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf on hoary
[10:11] <lithi_> bob2: Ohhh Ok
[10:12] <FAST> is hoary (array-4?) a not-so-stable / not-so-complete distro at this point? any real reason to switch?
[10:13] <Agabus> could anyone give me a link to an ftp where i can get hoary the latest array?
[10:13] <FAST> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/hoary/array-4/
[10:13] <Bigglez> Anyone know how to open a Kword doc in OO Writer? Or to convert one to a txt file say?
[10:13] <Butt> ~[ bob2 ] ~ ok, i just did the X thing and it didn't work
[10:13] <bob2> cool
[10:13] <bob2> but that's how you run X from the command line
[10:13] <Butt> bob2 it seemed to have frozen in some screen thats blank
[10:13] <Butt> :(
[10:14] <Butt>  [] uGhz [O] u+ [L] o , i had to do this
[10:14] <Butt> exec /usr/X11R6/bin/X
[10:14] <Butt> ~[ bob2 ] ~ anything?
[10:14] <Schaap> jdub, its the old warty version
[10:14] <Woodstokk> hello
[10:14] <jdub> Schaap: /etc/X11/XF86Config-4
[10:15] <Schaap> but if it is xorg, im sure ill be able to find it :)
[10:15] <bob2> it's really annoying that your IRC client is putting crap around people's nicks
[10:15] <Schaap> cheers :)
[10:15] <Woodstokk> I'm thinking about trying Ubuntu...
[10:15] <Butt> sorry... ill stop the script
[10:15] <Schaap> Cheers jdub
[10:15] <Butt> ~[ bob2 ] ~ better?
[10:15] <Butt> shit
[10:15] <Woodstokk> can it be installed on an older imac?
[10:16] <Woodstokk> like a 333 mhz?
[10:16] <randabis-laptop> probably
[10:16] <Bigglez> Woodstokk - all I know about mac+linux is Yellow Dog
[10:16] <bob2> Woodstokk: yes
[10:16] <bob2> gnome likes lots of ram, tho
[10:17] <Bigglez> Anyone know how to open a Kword doc in OO Writer? Or to convert one to a txt file say?
[10:17] <Woodstokk> I just installed yellowdog a few weeks ago and am taking more of a liking to trying a couple distros before I decide for sure
[10:17] <jdub> Woodstokk: as long as you have 192MB or more, it'll be fine.
[10:17] <Butt>  bob2 
[10:17] <Woodstokk> thanks
[10:17] <Butt> eh thats better.........
[10:17] <Butt> lol
[10:17] <bob2> now it's some sort of non-ascii crap
[10:18] <bob2> which is even more annoying
[10:18] <randabis-laptop> if you have less ram than that, you might wanna try some of the lighter environments like xfce or fluxbox
[10:18] <Butt> yah dunno how to kill it any more than that.
[10:18] <Butt> bob2 : sorry
[10:18] <FAST> theres nothing fancy schmancy in the array-4 installation right? everything is nice and straight forward, ya?
[10:18] <bob2> regardless, it's best to ask on the list, including the output of "dmesg", "lspci", "lspci -n" and "lsmod" and hopefully our lovely young X maintainer will know the solution
[10:18] <Woodstokk> is that on the ubuntu CD?
[10:18] <bob2> Butt: use a less crap client, I guess
[10:19] <Butt> bob2 : guess so.
[10:19] <randabis-laptop> Woodstokk, probably not, but you can download them through the ubuntu repositories afterward
[10:19] <Butt> bob2 : ive posted on the forums many times no one responds
[10:19] <bob2> Butt: forums != list
[10:19] <Butt> oh
[10:19] <Butt> bob2 : whats list then?
[10:19] <bob2> the user list in the topic
[10:21] <FAST> is there a website describing what array-4 is all about?
[10:21] <bob2> ?
[10:21] <bob2> it's test cd 4 for hoary
[10:22] <FAST> so basically its for people that want to test out features / report bugs / etc ?
[10:22] <bob2> of the installer? yes.
[10:26] <TCSCushing> I am on an MSWXP computer.  How would I get a text file to the Ubuntu WIKI folks?
[10:27] <bob2> er, why not just edit the wiki yourself?
[10:27] <TCSCushing> Where to start?
[10:28] <dud> just register an account, and read the howto for editing the wiki, and start editing :)
[10:29] <Butt> bob2 : sent off an email i guess and hope for a reply, how long usually ?
[10:30] <TCSCushing> Thanks for the replies, and sorry to be dumb... I registered, I read a lot, don't know how to get a message to WIKI folks.
[10:30] <bob2> there is no "wiki folks"
[10:30] <bob2> anyone can edit it
[10:40] <bob2> Dark_Kyo: can you turn that off please?
[10:43] <siridhar> does Ubuntu create and resize partitions in a windows XP computer w/o loss of data?
[10:43] <bob2> no
[10:43] <bob2> unless you have spare space already
[10:44] <siridhar> I have two partitions. 1) C:\ is data partition (NTFS) 2) D:\ has windows XP
[10:44] <Agabus> in the FAQ it says "A default Ubuntu desktop installation includes a full-featured Python development environment, so if you want to develop in Python, you should already have everything you need." but where/what is the development environment called?
[10:46] <Agabus> anyone?
[10:46] <butt> hey
[10:46] <butt> bob2: im in ubuntu and workin :)
[10:46] <butt> fucking ps/2 port error
[10:46] <butt> common
[10:46] <Agabus> in the FAQ it says "A default Ubuntu desktop installation includes a full-featured Python development environment, so if you want to develop in Python, you should already have everything you need." but where/what is the development environment called?
[10:46] <butt> y couldn't u just tell me :\
[10:47] <bob2> Agabus: please stop repeating over and over
[10:47] <bob2> it includes the python interpreter and a ton of libraries
[10:47] <bob2> if you're looking for an IDE, there are a few to choose from, but non (aside from emacs) installed by default
[10:47] <bob2> butt: right, we delieberately holding out on you
[10:48] <Agabus> bob2 - oh ok
[10:48] <Agabus> bob2 - could u name a few IDEs for python for me?
[10:48] <bob2> I only use emacs
[10:48] <Agabus> yeh
[10:48] <Agabus> actually i mean for developing gtk apps
[10:48] <Agabus> glade perhaps?
[10:48] <bob2> that's not an IDEA
[10:49] <bob2> er, IDE
[10:49] <bob2> it's a GUI designer
[10:49] <Agabus> yeh, but an ide can include a gui designer sometimes
[10:49] <bob2> ok
[10:49] <siimo> i use glade with java-gnome
[10:50] <dud> "eric3 is a full featured Python IDE that is written in PyQt using the QScintilla editor widget."
[10:50] <Agabus> dud - so that has a gui designer?
[10:51] <jdub> Agabus: gazpacho is a great gui designer for gnome apps, and it's written in python
[10:51] <dud> "Boa Constructor is a cross platform Python IDE and wxPython GUI Builder."
[10:53] <Agabus> boa contructor looks alright
[10:53] <dud> there's many python IDE's look here for instance http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?PythonIde :o
[10:55] <butt> bob2: how come numlock does not stay on?
[10:56] <siimo> butt: read about numlockx
[10:57] <butt> siimo: k wherE?
[10:58] <cthulfuego> Yes, speaking off that 100Mb of python shit I don't want...
[10:58] <jatz> query guys, prepping some exams, now im playing around with raid 5, software raid 5, best way to test the hot spares delete a partition thats in use by the array?
[10:58] <siimo> google man page of numlockx
[10:59] <cthulfuego> jatz: or unplug the drive <heh> That's how I test hw raid setups.
[11:00] <jatz> cthulfuego, bit hard to unplug when multiple partitions in use by the array are on the one disk :P, i know its bad form to do it, but its just for practise
[11:00] <cthulfuego> jatz: start using 'dd' to move data from /dev/urandom to the partition, see what happens.
[11:01] <butt> where do i look for numlockx??
[11:01] <cthulfuego> jatz: The kernel won't notice the partition missing until after a reboot, if you simply delete it with fdisk.
[11:02] <jatz> cheers
[11:03] <Examancer> is there any advantage to installing PHP/Apache/MySQL through the package manager or apt-get as apposed to using something like LAMPP that does all 3 (along with mod_perl, mod_ssl, and other stuff) preconfigured?
[11:04] <jatz> if you dont you apt-get/synaptic the packages wont show up as being installed
[11:04] <jatz> so have to update manually.
[11:04] <jatz> and any dependancy problems you will have to resolve manually
[11:05] <Examancer> good to know. didn't really think of that
[11:05] <jdub> Examancer: security support
[11:05] <Examancer> security support?
[11:05] <Examancer> LAMPP has a secure mode...
[11:06] <jdub> Examancer: as in distribution security updates
[11:07] <Examancer> cyrix228
[11:07] <Examancer> oops
[11:07] <Examancer> wrong window
[11:07] <Examancer> but thanks for the insight jdub
[11:10] <Examancer> mainly did LAMPP cause synaptic doesn't have PHP5 yet
[11:10] <Examancer> and then I don't have to worry about config
[11:11] <lucifer4u_work> hello friends can anybody tell me what is the kernel branch is used in default in ubuntu 2.4 or 2.6 ?
[11:11] <MeMa|Sorcerer> 2.6
[11:12] <lucifer4u_work> thank you
[11:13] <butt> k here is a basic question from a newbie to linux. Lets say i want to install TEAMSPEAK.. how do i install a program like this in LINUX?
[11:14] <blah09> i think for that one all you have to do is extract and run from the folder, im not 100% sure though
[11:15] <MeMa|Sorcerer> extract the archive and run setup.sh
[11:15] <butt> blah09 : i tried that, didn't work, was an .sh file and in the readme said just run that file. i didn't that and it didn't seem to do anything
[11:15] <butt> the .sh file did'nt do anythin.....
[11:16] <blah09> whats it called?
[11:16] <blah09> try ./filename
[11:16] <jatz> open a root terminal, change dir to the unpacked teamspeak dir then ./install.sh typically
[11:16] <butt> its setup.sh
[11:16] <jatz> theh ./setup.sh
[11:16] <jatz> then
[11:17] <butt> k
[11:17] <butt> jatz, thanks that worked
[11:17] <butt> hope blah got that and sorcerer...
[11:18] <blah09> you dont have to run it as root...
[11:18] <jatz> you dont with ubuntu?
[11:18] <jatz> just installs into the user home dir does it?
[11:18] <butt> installed in to obt
[11:18] <blah09> as root itll go to opt
[11:19] <dud> btw Examancer, concering xampp, or lampp as you call it... its incredibly unsecure to run... its *strictly* meant for developing enviroments
[11:19] <jatz> blah09, but running the install as a normal user wont allow rw access to /opt, unless theres something different with the way ubuntu is setup?
[11:19] <Examancer> thats what i'm using it for dud, and the docs clearly say that as well... though the docs also tell you what you need to do if you do decide to use it in a live environment
[11:20] <blah09> no youre right
[11:20] <butt> so i shouldn't have installed to opt?
[11:20] <butt> install to my home dir?
[11:20] <blah09> either works fine
[11:20] <butt> oh, cause it didn't make a menu item anywhere
[11:20] <dud> well, just thought i'd specify it anyhow.. as some ubuntu users seems to have a nack for not reading documentation hehe :P
[11:20] <blah09> try running /opt/TeamSpeak2RC2/Teamspeak
[11:21] <blah09> anyone on a laptop?
[11:22] <blah09> whenever i unplug my headphones now, the builtin speakers dont come on anymore
[11:22] <jatz> then as root user ln -s /opt/teamspeakdir/teamspeak /usr/bin/teamspeak   after you do that you can press alt-F2 and enter teamspeak to launch the app
[11:22] <tremor> i'm on a laptop
[11:23] <blah09> do you have that problem?
[11:23] <butt> blah09 : it said this Session management error: Authentication Rejected, reason: None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authenitcation failed
[11:23] <butt> but then Teamspeak booted up
[11:24] <tremor> blah09: that isn't normally software related
[11:24] <tremor> as far as i know
[11:24] <tremor> and no, i don't have that problem
[11:25] <blah09> thats what i thought.. =/
[11:25] <butt> jatz, thats awesome the alt-f2, thanks man
[11:26] <butt> jatz: but it didn't boot hte program :\
[11:26] <jatz> authentication error?
[11:27] <butt> no didn't do nothing after i did alt-f2
[11:27] <butt> i hit run and nothing happns.
[11:28] <butt>  ln -s /opt/TeamSpeak2RC2/TeamSpeak /usr/bin/TeamSpeak
[11:28] <jatz> what command did you enter at the command line, the one that started with ln
[11:28] <jatz> k
[11:28] <butt> ^ what i typed word for word
[11:28] <jatz> in the alt-f2 windows you type TeamSpeak  .. caps included?
[11:29] <butt> yes
[11:29] <butt> i type Te and TeamSpeak pops up
[11:29] <butt> then i go to Run
[11:29] <jatz> ok, open a terminal up, type ls /opt
[11:29] <butt> its not under the list of known applications
[11:29] <jatz> what does the ls return?
[11:29] <butt> ls /opt
[11:29] <butt> TeamSpeak2RC2
[11:30] <jatz> ok open the alt-f2 prompt type /opt/TeamSpeak2RC2/TeamSpeak
[11:30] <jatz> does it run when you do it that way?
[11:30] <butt> nope same thing
[11:30] <butt> does nothing
[11:30] <butt> :(
[11:31] <jatz> did it run the first time you tried it?
[11:31] <butt> it ran when i did it in console
[11:32] <jatz> run ls -la /usr/bin | grep TeamSpeak
[11:33] <butt>  run ls -la /usr/bin | grep TeamSpeak
[11:33] <butt> bash: run: command not found
[11:33] <robsta> hi
[11:33] <butt> sup robsta
[11:34] <jatz> lol sorry ignore the run bit, start with ls
[11:34] <robsta> upgraded to warty
[11:34] <butt> warty or hoary?
[11:34] <robsta> ... now gnome isn't launching any more
[11:35] <robsta> gdm goes away and all that's left is "chocolate" background
[11:35] <blah09> ubuntuforums are slooow =/
[11:36] <robsta> also .xsession-errors don't tell anything special
[11:36] <butt> ubuntu forums suck :\
[11:36] <butt> noone seems to help on them
[11:36] <butt> i try but i know very very little
[11:38] <butt> doh i killed the mulitiple desktop thing how do i get it back?
[11:39] <Examancer> the little widget on the taskbar?
[11:39] <butt> yah
[11:39] <jdub> butt: right click on the panel, add to panel..., choose workspace switcher
[11:39] <Examancer> damn... beat me to it
[11:40] <butt> jdub thanks
[11:40] <butt> thanks examancer :)
[11:43] <butt> i like what im seeing
[11:44] <butt> just having trouble with the whole install thing
[11:44] <butt> installed teamspeak
[11:44] <butt> but it didn't add a menu item anywhere
[11:44] <butt> nor does it load anymore
[11:45] <butt> anyways guess its time for bed
[11:45] <butt> later guys n gals  and thanks for the help
[11:50] <lx_> heya, If openoffice won't open a word document that i need to edit, what other program should i use?
[11:50] <dud> abiword
[11:50] <lx_> k
[11:50] <lx_> is it in the repositories?
[11:50] <haggai> lx_: openoffice.org2
[11:51] <robsta> lx_: yes
[11:51] <robsta> but an old version
[11:52] <robsta> presuming you're using hoary
[11:52] <lx_> i am using warty
[11:52] <robsta> good for you
[11:52] <robsta> ;-)
[11:53] <robsta> lx_ : please log the file in abiword's bugzilla if it fails to open it
[11:53] <robsta> thx
[11:54] <lx_> can i use openoffice.org2 work in warty?
[11:54] <lx_> i mean does it work, or can i use it
[11:55] <haggai> lx_: well, you can't install the package from universe, but you could try my vanilla .debs
[11:56] <robsta> haggai: do you have ppc debs as well?
[11:56] <lx_> haggai: what is that?  my vanilla .debs?
[11:56] <haggai> lx_: plain, unpatched but packaged for debian
[11:56] <haggai>   deb http://people.debian.org/~halls/openoffice/test/ooo1.9-java /
[11:56] <lx_> ahh k
[11:57] <haggai> lx_: I haven't tested against warty but the dependencies aren't very heavy so there is a fair chance it will work
[11:57] <haggai> lx_: you'll need -core and -writer
[11:57] <Examancer> how do i make an alias permanent?
[11:58] <haggai> Examancer: active ~/.bashrc and add it there (see ~/.bash_profile)
[11:58] <dud> Examancer, add it in /etc/bash.bashrc
[11:59] <lx_> haggai: looking into it, thanks
[11:59] <dud> although, using bash.bashrc will make it work for all users that uses bash
[11:59] <lx_> haggai: only core and writer?
[12:00] <haggai> lx_: yes that will give you .doc import capability, I would try installing just those two to begin with - you can add the rest later if it works
[12:00] <haggai> lx_: please let me know if it works for you
[12:01] <lx_> haggai: i have never installed a file like this before
[12:02] <haggai> lx_: add the deb line to your sources.list and then you'll see the new packages in your package manager
[12:04] <lx_> haggai: so i don't download them?
[12:05] <haggai> lx_: apt/aptitude/synaptic does that for you
[12:05] <haggai> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto/view?searchterm=sources.list
[12:06] <lx_> haggai: i know that... just used to downloading things to install... wasn't sure if i had to download first
[12:06] <haggai> k
[12:07] <butt> think i installed flsah player.
[12:11] <butt> zug looks like i gotta install sound drivers or some shit
[12:11] <butt> i get the basic sounds for ubuntu but nothing from websites
[12:11] <butt> http://koti.mbnet.fi/perskii/flashit/koks.swf
[12:11] <butt> ^ like from there no sound :\
[12:16] <lx_> haggai: almost done . . .
[12:16] <Examancer> i installed bitlbee through synaptic package manager... now how do I actually start the server?
[12:17] <lx_> haggai: actually gonna take awhile to download it...
[12:18] <scizzo> butt: I do
[12:19] <lx_> haggai: in 30 min i will let you know if it worked  . .
[12:20] <lx_> btw, the .doc opened in Abiword
[12:23] <planckton> how would I mirror two systems?
[12:24] <planckton> I have n linux boxes here in school. And I'd like to have one Master system. The other systems shjould than accordingly syncronate to that system.
[12:24] <planckton> I thought about rsync
[12:24] <planckton> but would I have to care about modifications?
[12:26] <MM2> planckton: do you mean system should be identical files or have just sama packages?
[12:27] <MeMa|Sorcerer> hi
[12:27] <MM2> plah... should systems be identical (user files also) or should them have only same programs and packages?
[12:28] <haggai> lx_: thanks
[12:29] <wdh> Is it normal behaviour for sudo _never_ to ask for a password when using it?
[12:29] <MeMa|Sorcerer> no
[12:30] <TCSCushing> bob2 - I was able to edit a WIKI, my previous problem was that I wasn't logging in correctly.
[12:30] <MeMa|Sorcerer> ist asks for pass and than chaches it for 5 minutes
[12:30] <planckton> MM2, yep
[12:31] <planckton> MM2, identical would be best.
[12:31] <lucien> Is it normal that Totem-Xine plays my Divx movies, but without audio ? And that file properties actually thinks that movies aren't even encoded with audio ?
[12:31] <NuuB> i just d/l'd a tarball and when i trie unpacking it got an error saying "Cannot change ownership to uid 515, gid 515: Operation not permitted" - what's this mean?
[12:32] <lucien> That means that you are not allowed to unpack it.
[12:32] <lucien> Or overwrite a file.
[12:32] <lucien> Or something like that.
[12:32] <shock> hi all
[12:32] <shock> k3b burns without errors - nautilus-cd-burner bungled the last 7 cd's
[12:32] <shock> any hints?
[12:32] <NuuB> i tried it as my standard user, and tried again using sudo though
[12:33] <planckton> MM2, for example the master system is running apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade on a regular basis. And I do not want all the other systems to do crap
[12:35] <MM2> planckton: maybe some backup script could do some good for you? Or that rsync? I can't help you more with this, sorry!
[12:36] <planckton> MM2, hmm thanks mate
[12:39] <wdh> MeMa|Sorcerer, well.. here it never asks me for any password at all
[12:41] <catfox> Morning all.
[12:42] <catfox> I've got a fresh install of Ubuntu, but when I plug in my usb devices(cam or pen drive) they dont mount.
[12:42] <NuuB> how do i findout who or what uid and gid 515 is?
[12:43] <catfox> NuuB, can you look it up in the user admin tool?
[12:43] <NuuB> dont know, i'll try
[12:43] <naim> hi, how do i get an accurate memory usage reading ? ? top and free -m say i have used up my ram fully
[12:43] <naim> thats not true .. at least i dont think so
[12:44] <catfox> naim, afaik linux uses all available ram, then free's it up as new processes request it
[12:44] <catfox> NuuB, Computer -> System Configuration -> Users and groups
[12:45] <mjr> naim, see the +/- buffers/cache line of free's output
[12:45] <naim> catfox, i would like to read more about htat .. and recommended texts ??
[12:46] <catfox> naim, http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/2770
[12:47] <jdub> naim: read the second line of free
[12:47] <jdub> naim: that tells you how much ram is being used for buffers/cache
[12:47] <jdub> naim: which is freed whenever an app needs it, but is used to speed things up otherwise
[12:48] <catfox> any ideas why my usb devices dount auto-mount on this machine? it works fine on my desktop. weird
[12:49] <jdub> catfox: is gnome-volume-manager running?
[12:50] <catfox> jdub, running g-v-m from the command line says  manager.c/1202: already running?
[12:50] <catfox> jdub, should I kill it, and re-run it?
[12:50] <jdub> catfox: i asked if it was running, not suggesting you run it
[12:50] <jdub> catfox: load hal-device-manager and see if the usb device is listed in it
[12:52] <catfox> jdub, I see lots of "USB Hub Interface" entries
[12:54] <Lithi> Is there a way to upgrade the CUPS that comes with Warty -easily- because the apt-get update isint finding the update for it
[12:55] <Lithi> mabey theres a better repositorie that I should be using?
[12:56] <scoon> anyone in here notice that on boot samba gets loaded but does not allow for smb browsing.  if I restart it, all is ok
[12:57] <jesuel> hrm thats strange, scoon. Mine works dandy
[12:57] <catfox> jdub, ahh yes, just noticed the camera shows up as a usb mass storage interface
[12:57] <jesuel> from straight after boot up
[12:57] <scoon> jesuel, mine is just fine if i restart samba
[12:57] <jesuel> that it quite strange...
[12:58] <silva> in synaptic i waht he go get the packages in debian url
[12:58] <silva> what is the configuration i need do
[12:58] <scizzo> scoon: warty or hoary?
[12:58] <scoon> scizzo, hoary
[12:58] <jesuel> ahh, that may be it
[12:59] <jesuel> im running warty ;p
[12:59] <naim> jdub, catfox thnx
[12:59] <scizzo> scoon: IMHO i would trust warty more to do those things
[12:59] <scizzo> scoon: you could look at what the logs tell you
[12:59] <scoon> scizzo, ?
[12:59] <scoon> scizzo, i have and nothing gives
[01:00] <scizzo> scoon: in the samba logs?
[01:00] <scoon> scizzo, that was and would be the first place
[01:00] <scizzo> scoon: dmesg?
[01:00] <scizzo> scoon: syslog?
[01:01] <scizzo> scoon: etc
[01:01] <scoon> scizzo: YES
[01:01] <scizzo> ok...
[01:01] <eruin> anyone here know of gui svn clients?
[01:01] <eruin> maybe even something nautilus-ish?
[01:01] <scizzo> maybe someone else has had the same problem in hoary and done a bug report?
[01:02] <scoon> scizzo, and yes i have check'd there and in the forums.
[01:02] <scizzo> scoon: not reported?
[01:02] <scoon> scizzo, nope.
[01:02] <scizzo> scoon: maybe you should try the version from warty?
[01:03] <scoon> scizzo, nah, its no biggy.
[01:03] <scoon> scizzo, like i said, when i restart samba it is just fine.
[01:03] <stormycat> can anyone help me with openoffice save problem?
[01:03] <scizzo> well....maybe you could report a bug?
[01:04] <stormycat> bug is already reported, can't find any answers though
[01:04] <scizzo> it might be package problem...someone else has been here asking the same thing and that is why I thought that it might have been reported
 i wish i could - but i have a problem with ooo crashing on save as and stuff myself
[01:04] <stormycat> is is a gnome thing?
[01:04] <scoon> scizzo, maybe.
[01:04] <scizzo> scoon: maybe?
[01:04] <haggai> stormycat: which bug#?
[01:04] <scizzo> you think someone else will do it for you?
[01:05] <shock> dunno
[01:05] <scoon> scizzo, maybe i will report a bug.  but i wanted to see if anyone else has had the same problem
[01:05] <linuxboy> anybody know how i can enable vnc from the command prompt?
[01:05] <shock> im working with abiword mostly right now
[01:05] <scoon> scizzo, NO.  Just don't want to add a useless bug
[01:05] <stormycat> I can't remember  - i didnt post it myself
[01:05] <scoon> scizzo, relax.
[01:05] <scizzo> scoon: then look if the config is valid....
[01:05] <scoon> scizzo, everything you have suggested, I have already looked at.
[01:06] <scizzo> scoon: you can't see any logs about it..but try to see if you can log it in the config
[01:06] <stormycat> hopefully it will be sorted soon or I will have to go back to warty
[01:06] <haggai> stormycat: if you don't tell me what the problem is I can't sort it...
[01:06] <scizzo> scoon: if you still can't find the answer to why things are going wrong....bug report the package
[01:06] <scoon> scizzo, all I was looking for was if this was happening to anyone else.  not the answer or how to maybe not find it.
[01:06] <NuuB> ok, about to attempt an install of gcc - should i do it as root (w/sudo), as root (user), or as my local username?
[01:07] <goldfish_> sudo
[01:07] <scoon> scizzo, and besides, from what I have told you, how good would that worthless bug report be.
[01:07] <stormycat> found the bug no - 5898
[01:07] <haggai> thanks
[01:07] <scoon> scizzo, no logs, no real problems other than a /etc/init.d/samba restart, and no one else w/ the problem.
[01:08] <scizzo> scoon: it could be a system problem that is why
[01:08] <scizzo> scoon: if the samba stuff is started to early and things like that
[01:08] <scoon> scizzo, if i bug it, I would like to have something tangeable to give.
[01:08] <haggai> stormycat: ok I didn't do anything to that yet because there is no console output.  Can you paste the console output to the bug report?
[01:08] <scizzo> scoon: isn't "Samba at boot problem" a good topic for that?
[01:09] <stormycat> ok
[01:09] <scoon> scizzo, forget it.  My next step will be to look over the init script for it. thanks tho.
[01:09] <silva> what is the url to be configured on synaptic for get all debian package
[01:09] <silva> packages
[01:10] <guim> hi all, just a noob question : what should I use to burn a cd (with an iso) with ubuntu? anyone recommand me something thqt could look like "nero" and as easy to use ?thanks!
[01:11] <mjr> guim, right-click on the iso in nautilus and choose to burn it
[01:11] <guim> :)
[01:11] <guim> ok
[01:11] <scizzo> guim: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#burnisofile
[01:11] <stormycat> sorry - bit unsure how to do that (bit of a noob to this stuff) -  this is the error I get:  libgnomevfs-ERROR **: file gnome-vfs-cancellation.c: line 133
[01:11] <stormycat> (gnome_vfs_cancellation_cancel): assertion failed:
[01:12] <stormycat> (gnome_vfs_is_primary_thread())
[01:12] <stormycat> aborting...
[01:12] <guim> thank you guys
[01:13] <ArdieM> ardiem@chillout:~ $ sudo depmod -a ; sudo modprobe fglrx
[01:13] <ArdieM> FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.10-3-amd64-generic/kernel/drivers/video/fglrx.ko): No such device
[01:13] <ArdieM> what does that mean... what is missing ?
[01:15] <Examancer> anyone know how i can configure init so that I can access bitlbee from outside of localhost?
[01:17] <silva> so can some help me
[01:17] <silva> in synaptic
[01:18] <NuuB> this seems like a catch 22 - i am trying to install gcc but the gnu docs say "either cc or gcc must be in your path or you must set CC in your environment before running configure. Otherwise the configuration scripts may fail." so i need it installed to install it? huh?
[01:19] <dud> you have to pre-stage gcc for a from-scratch install
[01:19] <siridhar> kind of like getting winrar installer in .rar
[01:19] <mjr> NuuB, well, surprisingly, you need a C compiler to compile a C program
[01:19] <scizzo> silva: with what?
[01:19] <dud> if you've ever done a LFS setup, it should be familiar :)
[01:19] <mjr> but you really don't want to install it from source, apt-get install build-essential
[01:20] <stormycat> Hi silva, in warty i used something like  deb-marillat (can't remember the rest of it.  Google is pretty helpful
[01:20] <ArdieM> siridhar: yes i know that .. hahahah
[01:20] <catfox> I've just added a new user and inserted my usb devices when logged in as that user, but they don't mount then either. no ideas why usb devices don't automount? (they're showing up in the hal-device-manager though)
[01:20] <mjr> catfox, I guess that the new user is not in the plugdev group
[01:20] <mjr> it needs to be in it in order for it to have the authorization to do so
[01:20] <NuuB> mjr: ok i will try that instead (should i run that as sudo?)
[01:20] <mjr> NuuB, yes
[01:21] <catfox> mjr, the user admin tool shows plugdev listed in both users' groups
[01:22] <mjr> catfox, hmm, and if you launch a shell as the new user and type "id", plugdev is listed?
[01:22] <catfox> mjr, yeah. 103(plugdev)
[01:23] <mjr> righto
[01:23] <dueyfinster> download.com
[01:23] <mjr> well, my guesses are running low then, except for the trivial "is gnome-volume-properties set to automount them" ;)
[01:24] <dueyfinster> sorry
[01:24] <dueyfinster> I was trying to type that into firefox!
[01:24] <goldfish_> lol
[01:24] <catfox> mjr, hehe, yeah it's a fresh install
[01:25] <NuuB> mjr, that got it, thank you
[01:25] <catfox> mjr, oh well. thanks for the help anyway.
[01:25] <mjr> catfox, of, except there is the thing that you might try to, as root perhaps, mount them while explicitly spesifying the filesystem type
[01:25] <mjr> ...or not
[01:27] <looksaus> hm, when I try tftpd-hpa
[01:28] <looksaus> I have a group problem
[01:28] <looksaus> it seems that user nobody is not part of any group on hoary?
[01:28] <looksaus> or at least grep nobody /etc/group doesn't tell me
[01:30] <G2> what build tools does ubuntu use for docbook xml?
[01:32] <looksaus> can I just add a group nogroup or does it need special properties?
[01:33] <looksaus> (apart from nobody being member)
[01:34] <website> does anybody know something about xorg + framebuffer?
[01:35] <LinuxJones> looksaus, what are you running that you need the nobody group ?
[01:36] <looksaus> tftpd-hpa...
[01:36] <looksaus> at least, I think so
[01:37] <Examancer> heh... had no idea how fast changes to hosts.allow take effect
[01:37] <looksaus> /var/log/daemon.log:Feb  9 13:21:11 localhost in.tftpd[4151] : cannot set groups for user nobody
[01:38] <looksaus> LinuxJones, am I right that I should interpret that as
[01:39] <looksaus> "explicitly add user nobody to the nogroup line in /etc/group ?
[01:40] <LinuxJones> looksaus, afaik the account should be on the system, I am running Warty and don't have that account/croup either
[01:40] <LinuxJones> looksaus, err account/group
[01:40] <looksaus> hm... any other suggestions as to what might be wrong here?
[01:41] <looksaus> (I've done similar setups several times before)
[01:42] <LinuxJones> looksaus, I have no idea, might be a good idea to have a look at the forums and mailing lists. If there is no information,  ask a question on the mailing list someone will have some info for you ;)
[01:43] <looksaus> ok, thx for your replay anyway...
[01:44] <Guardiann> good morning people
[01:45] <LinuxJones> Guardiann, hi
[01:46] <Guardiann> :)
[01:46] <Guardiann> Love my daily upgrades
[01:47] <LinuxJones> Guardiann, you must be running Hoary, Warty has like 1 update a week :D
[01:47] <Guardiann> yeah I am
[01:47] <Guardiann> like Christmas every day :)
[01:48] <LinuxJones> Guardiann, until the Grinch comes for a visit and borks you xorg :)
[01:48] <Guardiann> so far so good been 4 weeks
[01:48] <Guardiann> no grinch yet
[01:50] <Guardiann> well i will be right back time to reboot see if the grinch visited this am
[01:52] <pitti> seb128: do you know a gnome counterpart of worklog/wmwork?
[01:53] <seb128> pitti: dunno what worklog/wmwork is
[01:53] <Guardiann> still all good
[01:53] <pitti> seb128: it keeps track of the time you spend on various projects during the day
[01:53] <pitti> seb128: i. e. what we are supposed to do now in our reports
[01:53] <LinuxJones> heh
[01:54] <jdub> pitti: the launchpad dudes are using a pygtk thingy
[01:54] <daniels> pitti: 01:07 < elmo> mdz: svn co http://mg.pov.lt/gtimelog/svn/ gtimelog
[01:54] <pitti> ah, cool
[01:54] <Guardiann> nice little change to the login in when you unlock your screen
[01:54] <seb128> pitti: dunno
[01:57] <zaugrly> hi
[01:57] <Guardiann> zaugrly hello
[01:57] <zaugrly> _
[01:57] <zaugrly> :)
[01:57] <zaugrly> is anyone in this channel running ubuntu on a mac?
[01:58] <GFXstyLER> hi
[01:58] <Keito> before I install ubuntu, shoudl I add an old 10gb HD or make another partition on my existing HD?
[01:59] <GFXstyLER> can anyone help me with a little fglrx question ?
[01:59] <zaugrly> depends on how much space u got left, i guess
[01:59] <zaugrly> keito
[01:59] <Keito> well I have 20gigs free at the moment, but that fills up from time to time
[02:00] <GFXstyLER> i installed the fglrx ati drivers, they even loaded fine, but i dont got any 3d acceleration to work (yes, i searched google)
[02:00] <Keito> I basically want to know which will probably cause me less problems in GRUB...
[02:00] <LinuxJones> GFXstyLER, where did you install the drivers from ?
[02:00] <GFXstyLER> ubuntu hoary
[02:01] <drunken-wallaby> hello everyone :)
[02:01] <Keito> hello
[02:01] <GFXstyLER> hello wallaby
[02:01] <LinuxJones> GFXstyLER, can you run glxgears in terminal ?
[02:02] <GFXstyLER> yes
[02:02] <LinuxJones> GFXstyLER, what does it say ?
[02:02] <GFXstyLER> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[02:03] <LinuxJones> GFXstyLER, look on the ubuntu forums I'm pretty sure there will be some help there. I run Nvidia myself.
[02:03] <GFXstyLER> i did, but only at the german forums, maybe the english ones have more information
[02:04] <drunken-wallaby> you'll probably find some useful information at www.ubuntuguide.org as well...
[02:04] <drunken-wallaby> hi tomcan...
[02:04] <drunken-wallaby> t
[02:04] <GFXstyLER> thx wallaby
[02:05] <liberion> GFXstyLER, you gotta change "ati" to "fglrx" in xfree86config
[02:06] <GFXstyLER> i did already, but still no 3d, do i have to restart the computer after that?
[02:06] <Tomcat__> Hi drunken-wallaby.
[02:07] <LinuxJones> GFXstyLER, yes >> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3713&highlight=ATI
[02:07] <liberion> GFXstyLER, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto/view?searchterm=fglrx
[02:07] <GFXstyLER> thx @ linuxjones & liberion
[02:07] <LinuxJones> GFXstyLER, GL :)
[02:08] <liberion> GFXstyLER, i see the problem reading the howto
[02:09] <liberion> GFXstyLER, echo fglrx | sudo tee -a /etc/modules that write the fglrx driver to /etc/modules and apon reboot its loaded but you can logout of x and modprobe fglrx and startx it may work then
[02:09] <GFXstyLER> ill do a restart
[02:09] <GFXstyLER> brb
[02:09] <liberion> GFXstyLER, cool
[02:12] <aries> help~  my locale is zh_CN.UTF-8, and there are .mo files  in /usr/share/locale/zh_CN directory.  but the gtk/gtk+ programe are still the english , while the qt-based programe are all right
[02:14] <aries> anybody help?
[02:18] <guim> burning cd with nautilus don't work : it says in a popup that my cd is not writable (but it is a new one!) anyone knows what could cause this?
[02:19] <liberion> aries, sorry i speak english never had to fix it
[02:21] <membreya> hey guys :)
[02:21] <liberion> hey
[02:22] <Guardiann> hello
[02:22] <membreya> who here can help with o-office and JRE? :)
[02:22] <linuxboy> hi. Does anyone know how I can enable VNC remotly?
[02:22] <drunken-wallaby> hi guim, is the problem nautilus specific or can you burn cds directly from the console with cdrecord or with other applications?
[02:23] <guim> i didn't try
[02:23] <guim> cdrecord in command so
[02:23] <guim> i'll try
[02:23] <liberion> hey anyone wanna try my briquolo ubuntu package??
[02:24] <acs_> hello to all
[02:24] <drunken-wallaby> ok
[02:24] <acs_> how do I install gcc in ubuntu
[02:24] <membreya> got blackdown installed..but open office is saying no JRE found :(
[02:24] <membreya> acs_: sudo apt-get gcc
[02:24] <membreya> oops
[02:24] <membreya> apt-get install gcc
[02:25] <acs_> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[02:25] <acs_> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[02:25] <acs_> ??
[02:26] <membreya> did you sudo ?
[02:26] <acs_> ops
[02:26] <liberion> acs_, where is your jre located?
[02:26] <membreya> and do you have synaptic open at the same time?
[02:26] <membreya> talking to me liberion or acs? :P
[02:26] <acs_> liberion, I am still new to this linux thing
[02:27] <acs_> so what is the jre?
[02:27] <acs_> membreya, it's installing now
[02:27] <membreya> jre = java runtime environment
[02:27] <acs_> thanks
[02:27] <membreya> np acs
[02:27] <earthen> anyone know of a program that works like hyperterminal in windows
[02:27] <liberion> ok who asked something about jre?
[02:27] <membreya> I've only been using ubuntu for about 3 or 4 days, so it's new to me too
[02:27] <membreya> liberion: I did, trying to get open office to recognise my JRE
[02:28] <acs_> liberion, I did but membreya already awnsered
[02:28] <nitrox> Anyone in here running dual display... What Dual Display Video Card do you have
[02:28] <membreya> and it's in /usr/local/j2re1.4.2/
[02:30] <audix> Hey, I need an FTP client, what should I get?
[02:30] <audix> I'd like a GUI one
[02:30] <Paralla1> gftp
[02:30] <lup|gnometogtk> gftp?
[02:30] <nitrox> Can anyone suggest a good Dual Display video card... Nothing for Gaming just good DVD playback something that can handle 3D decent
[02:30] <drunken-wallaby> hi audix. sudo apt-get install gftp
[02:30] <audix> sounds good
[02:31] <liberion> membreya, find where jre is located
[02:31] <earthen> I use an ATI video card works fine for me, i haven't tried the duel display yet but it says it works
[02:32] <nitrox> Earthen : What model are you using and what is the memory on it ?
[02:32] <Paralla1> i tries o nati with no results, i have now a nvidia one and it wiorks perfect
[02:32] <liberion> membreya, maybe in /etc/profile add this to your path /usr/local/j2re1.4.2_06/bin
[02:32] <earthen> I have the 9700pro 128 megs ram
[02:32] <nitrox> Cool
[02:32] <tritium> liberion, that will be system-wide.  Perhaps use ~/.bash_profile
[02:32] <earthen> a friend is having alot of trougle getting his x800 to work so i would go there yet
[02:32] <acs_> is there any C editor for unbuntu?
[02:33] <audix> vim is pretty cool
[02:33] <nitrox> Because I was thinking about going the Matrox G450 32MB but
[02:33] <earthen> wouldn't
[02:33] <liberion> tritium, true
[02:33] <tritium> acs_, gedit has syntax highlighting, if that's what you're looking for
[02:33] <nitrox> 32MB sounds too Small
[02:33] <audix> acs_: but vim is a steep learning curve
[02:33] <Paralla1> I have a 6600GT and my dual screen was easy to setup
[02:33] <tritium> liberion, :)
[02:33] <guim> i tried to burn my CD with cdrecord
[02:33] <acs_> tritium, yeah that is really cool
[02:33] <earthen> I don't know much about that card
[02:33] <acs_> how can I set it up here in ubuntu?
[02:33] <membreya> liberion: I've already added /usr/local/j2re1.4.2/ to my path in the profile file....
[02:33] <tritium> acs_, I think emacs is also installed by default
[02:33] <membreya> do you need to reload that file ?
[02:33] <earthen> I've tried the duel display in windows and it work great on the ATI
[02:33] <acs_> it is?
[02:34] <acs_> ok
[02:34] <guim> but not sure about the command, it doesn't work either
[02:34] <tritium> acs_, You should already have gedit too.  Under Accessories.
[02:34] <goldfish_> NANO!
[02:34] <goldfish_> :)
[02:34] <earthen> you can get cheaper models that do the same like the 9550 or some thing
[02:34] <tritium> acs_, It's labeled "Text Editor"
[02:34] <liberion> membreya, no no its /usr/local/j2re1.4.2/bin you must add the bin
[02:34] <acs_> no no
[02:34] <acs_> I don't see it there
[02:35] <nitrox> Thanx Earthen and Parallal for your input
[02:35] <tritium> guim, did you use "cdrecord -scanbus" to find your drive?
[02:35] <membreya> just looked at my profile file again liberion...it does have the bin there *hangs his head in shame*
[02:35] <goldfish_> from a terminal type gedit filename
[02:35] <earthen> NP
[02:35] <guim> ok i try this
[02:35] <membreya> I can do a java -version from the console and it says that there's a java version running
[02:35] <guim> thx
[02:35] <membreya> but open office is just being a pain in the a$$ and saying I don't have a JRE
[02:35] <liberion> membreya, did you run an ldconfig
[02:35] <tritium> guim, what type of drive?  atapi?
[02:35] <guim> Cannot open '/dev/pg*'
[02:36] <membreya> just ran an ldconfig then, you'll have to pardon me..I'm new to linux..well I used it 5 years ago ..but it's like asking me about the things I learnt in school
[02:37] <membreya> in one ear out there other
[02:37] <membreya> nope, still says there's no JRE >:(
[02:37] <guim> i have sata hdd
[02:38] <membreya> guim: what are you trying to do ?
[02:38] <guim> burn a cd
[02:38] <guim> :)
[02:38] <membreya> what's happening?
[02:38] <guim> nautilus don't wont to burn it
[02:38] <guim> want
[02:38] <membreya> does it give you the option of burning to a disc or only to a file?
[02:38] <tritium> guim, nautilus doesn't use cdrecord
[02:38] <guim> saying it is not a writbale cd, but it is
[02:38] <guim> ah
[02:39] <guim> membreya : cdrecord or nautilus?
[02:39] <membreya> nautilus
[02:39] <drunken-wallaby> cdrecord -v dev=/dev/hdx speed=x -data image.iso
[02:40] <guim> i have a popup saying it won't burn
[02:40] <membreya> give a reason?
[02:40] <membreya> sorry to make you repeat yourself
[02:41] <guim> but i do not have the option to burn the iso file in a file
[02:41] <guim> the popup says the cd is not a writable cd
[02:41] <guim> no prob
[02:41] <guim> but i know it is
[02:41] <audix> Anybody know if and how I can make a sftp connection with gftp?
[02:41] <guim> i just opened it
[02:41] <guim> never used it
[02:41] <tritium> guim, can you "dmesg | grep CD"
[02:42] <membreya> at least nautilus says you have a cd burner :P
[02:42] <guim> hda: LITE-ON LTR-52327S, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
[02:42] <guim> hdb: JLMS XJ-HD166S, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
[02:42] <guim> hda: ATAPI 52X CD-ROM CD-R/RW drive, 2048kB Cache
[02:42] <guim> Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20
[02:43] <guim> does this help ? :)
[02:43] <tritium> yeah
[02:43] <membreya> i tried to use gnomeburn but they don't seem to have a 64 bit port >:(
[02:43] <tritium> nautilus should have no problem using that
[02:43] <tritium> guim, try "cdrecord dev=ATAPI: -scanbus" if you want cdrecord to find it.  Again, though, nautilus doesn't use cdrecord.
[02:44] <guim> okay
[02:44] <tritium> and it that doesn't work, try dev=ATA:
[02:45] <membreya> tritium: what's that command do ?
[02:45] <tritium> membreya, scans for the CD burner so he can configure cdrecord
[02:45] <membreya> oh ok :)
[02:45] <tritium> Although, that won't help us with his nautilus problem
[02:46] <membreya> apart from gnomeburn...does anyone know a good cdburner that HAS a 64 bit port?
[02:46] <tritium> membreya, did you look to see if graveman has a 64 bit port?
[02:46] <membreya> nautilus doesn't even recognise my cd/dvd burner
[02:46] <tritium> what type is it?
[02:46] <tritium> guim, any luck?
[02:46] <membreya> 'PIONEER ' 'DVD-RW  DVR-108 ' '1.18' Removable CD-ROM
[02:46] <membreya> ATA
[02:47] <guim> not sure of the right cdrecord command i must do
[02:47] <tritium> guim, "cdrecord dev=ATAPI: -scanbus"
[02:48] <tritium> if that fails, "cdrecord dev=ATA: -scanbus"
[02:48] <guim> "fails"
[02:48] <guim> what i am suppose to expect?
[02:48] <guim> i mean i must give the iso filename at least?
[02:48] <guim> no?
[02:49] <tritium> guim, something like this: 0,1,0     1) 'TOSHIBA ' 'CDRW/DVD SDR2102' '1D13' Removable CD-ROM
[02:49] <tritium> guim, no, this is to find the drive, not burn the image yet
[02:49] <guim> 0,0,0     0) 'LITE-ON ' 'LTR-52327S      ' 'QS0C' Removable CD-ROM
[02:49] <guim>         0,1,0     1) 'JLMS    ' 'XJ-HD166S       ' 'DS1A' Removable CD-ROM
[02:49] <guim>         0,2,0     2) *
[02:49] <guim>         0,3,0     3) *
[02:49] <guim>         0,4,0     4) *
[02:49] <guim>         0,5,0     5) *
[02:49] <guim>         0,6,0     6) *
[02:49] <guim>         0,7,0     7) *
[02:49] <guim> ah okay
[02:49] <tritium> yikes, don't paste so much
[02:49] <guim> oups...sorry
[02:49] <membreya> grrrr, I open firefox, go to google..start typing graveman and it closes :|
[02:50] <tritium> okay, so if you edit /etc/default/cdrecord, to reflect the drive you want to use, cdrecord will be able to find it
[02:50] <guim> ok
[02:50] <tritium> membreya, apt-cache search graveman (it's in universe)
[02:50] <membreya> ....hmmm firefox is only quitting in google :|
[02:51] <inc> sup peeps
[02:51] <tritium> guim, once cdrecord is configured, then you can use it until we figure out your nautilus problem
[02:51] <guim> ok cool!
[02:51] <membreya> tritium: doing a sudo apt-cache search graveman it gives me nothing...got all the repositories from the ubuntuguide loaded
[02:52] <tritium> membreya, are you using Warty?
[02:52] <guim> i should add a line at the end of etc/default/cdrecord
[02:52] <membreya> oh..and I figured out the stepping problem with my amd 64...it was only running 1ghz..i just altered the script to give boinc normal priority :)
[02:52] <membreya> tritium: yup using warty
[02:53] <tritium> membreya, it's not in Warty.   Just Hoary.
[02:53] <tritium> :(
[02:53] <membreya> noooooooooooo
[02:53] <evarlast> isn't k3b in universe?
[02:53] <evarlast> graveman didn't work for me (in hoary) but k3b worked perfect.
[02:53] <membreya> hmmm that poses the question again then ...what cd burner (in 64 bit) to use
[02:53] <tritium> yes, if you can tolerate kde libraries on your system
[02:53] <evarlast> tritium: it is only 35MB download, ~ 100MB usage... which is a lot for a CDRecorder, yes.
[02:54] <evarlast> But it it well worth it in terms of usability of k3b (the best)
[02:54] <tritium> evarlast, I think it uses cdrecord.  Did you have cdrecord configured properly?
[02:54] <evarlast> tritium: yes, in fact I use cdrecord to burn the files manually, before moving to k3b.
[02:54] <membreya> lol 100mb for a cd burner.. I thought nero was bad in windblowz
[02:54] <evarlast> membreya: nah, Roxio's cd product is bad :)
[02:55] <membreya> haven't used roxio in yeaaars...nero is my fav ..mainly for converting divx to dvd
[02:55] <membreya> silly apt-get...can never go beyond 200k/s :(
[02:55] <membreya> sorry ..kB/s :P
[02:56] <tritium> guim, did you get cdrecord configured?
[02:59] <membreya> gah...k3b doesn't detect my burner either
[02:59] <tritium> membreya, just to be sure, is the cdrom module loaded? ;)
[03:00] <membreya> lol .....I figured out why it's not recognising it ...
[03:00] <membreya> kinda ashamed now
[03:00] <membreya> ROFL
[03:00] <guim> i try
[03:00] <membreya> had cdrom mounting as ro..changed it to rw ;)
[03:01] <chrillan> membreya: heh :>
[03:01] <tritium> :)
[03:01] <membreya> I'm new to this ..lemme be ;)
[03:02] <evarlast> mounting as ro in fstab?  that stopped you from using cdrecord?
[03:02] <membreya> yup
[03:02] <membreya> well no
[03:02] <membreya> it stopped me using nautilus and k3b
[03:02] <membreya> :)
[03:03] <guim> well...I edited the etc/default/cdrecord and added a line in the file with : liteon		0,1,0	-1	-1	""
[03:03] <guim> is that what you meant by "beeing configured"? or did i miss something?
[03:03] <tritium> guim, and did you add a line with "CDR_DEVICE=liteon" ?
[03:03] <guim> ah no
[03:03] <tritium> near the top, there's a line like that
[03:04] <guim> done
[03:04] <tritium> guim, it should work, now
[03:04] <guim> using cdrecord in command then
[03:04] <tritium> yeah.  remind us again about your nautilus problem.  It detects the drive?
[03:05] <tritium> maybe you should also check your /etc/fstab
[03:05] <membreya> think that might be his problem as well tritium
[03:05] <membreya> i hereby decree it "newbie mistake of the day"
[03:05] <tritium> membreya, had you mounted your drive, or was that done automatically?
[03:05] <membreya> tritium: automatically...
[03:06] <membreya> but had to change the fstab to be rw
[03:06] <membreya> and do a sudo mount -a
[03:06] <guim> yes the driver in nautilus appear
[03:06] <tritium> guim, is the cd blank media, or not?
[03:06] <guim> i can select it (but it is preselected)
[03:06] <guim> th media is new, completely blank
[03:06] <petteri> Hello, I have installed Ubuntu as text mode, not graphical. And I have downloaded and installed psyBNC software from internet... And I want to connect to my Ubuntu from this computer with Putty, but putty says only: "connection timed out". What could be wrong?
[03:06] <membreya> did you check your fstab guim?
[03:06] <tritium> guim, okay, so it shouldn't be mounted.
[03:07] <Mayday> i have a problem with warty, when i logged in 2 mouse pointers... one X and one normal arrow, the arrow i can move, the X just hovers above everything, anyone know how to disable it?
[03:07] <tritium> petteri, did you install the ssh server?
[03:07] <petteri> Yes
[03:07] <petteri> But it wont still work
[03:07] <petteri> Shall I try reinstall ssh server?
[03:08] <Schaap> yes :)
[03:08] <petteri> What was that command...
[03:08] <tritium> sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[03:08] <Schaap> Btw how does hotswap work with ubuntu?
[03:08] <Schaap> That yes
[03:08] <tritium> petteri, you'll need --reinstall
[03:09] <tritium> if it's already installed
[03:09] <petteri> Hmm
[03:09] <tritium> but that must not be the problem....
[03:09] <petteri> WHat you mean?
[03:09] <tritium> sudo apt-get install --reinstall openssh-server
[03:09] <petteri> Hmm
[03:09] <petteri> Okay
[03:09] <guim> cdrecord don't work
[03:09] <guim> i typed "cdrecord myfile.iso"
[03:09] <tritium> petteri, you're sure you have it installed?
[03:09] <guim> missed some param?
[03:10] <Schaap> params suck
[03:10] <membreya> did you edit your fstab guim and is the drive in nautilus now?
[03:10] <djk> anyone else having an issue with the bottom toolbar? the icons on it are really really small
[03:10] <djk> anyone know how to change that?
[03:10] <Schaap> aha, a hotswap package :)
[03:10] <petteri> REstarting opensource plaaplaa: OK
[03:10] <petteri> Thats it?
[03:10] <petteri> Do I need to reboot ?
[03:11] <Schaap> ok how about cloning then
[03:11] <Schaap> hahaha
[03:11] <Schaap> reboot is for windows :)
[03:11] <petteri> Heh
[03:11] <Schaap> Ubuntu only needs restarting a service
[03:11] <petteri> It wont still connect
[03:12] <tritium> petteri, can you ping the machine?
[03:12] <Schaap> Do you use putty on the windows machine?
[03:12] <petteri> How?
[03:12] <petteri> Yes
[03:12] <petteri> I'm using
[03:12] <Schaap> ping <ip>
[03:12] <petteri> At Ubuntu console?
[03:12] <tritium> yes
[03:12] <Schaap> ping from windows to ubuntu
[03:12] <membreya> noone has helped me with my JRE/OpenOffice problem yet ;)
[03:12] <Schaap> and the other way around :)
[03:13] <petteri> Timed out
[03:13] <Schaap> ping the router then
[03:13] <petteri> But Internet works fine on both computers
[03:13] <tritium> membreya, what does oo.o use JRE for?
[03:13] <Schaap> from both machines
[03:13] <petteri> How that?
[03:13] <Schaap> ping router IP
[03:13] <tritium> petteri, the problem is not with the ssh server, then
[03:14] <petteri> If I reboot my ubuntu, could it help?
[03:14] <tritium> no
[03:14] <Schaap> ping ping ping ping!ping every IP you can think of
[03:14] <petteri> Hmmm
[03:14] <membreya> don't know ..it says that some things might not function..should i just not care about it tritium?
[03:14] <petteri> But everything works fine
[03:14] <Schaap> no it doesnt
[03:14] <Schaap> other wise ssh would work right?
[03:15] <petteri> I mean, I'm ircin, so internet connection maybe works in this computer. And i have downloaded psyBNC software from internet to my Ubuntu, internet works fine at that too
[03:15] <membreya> did you start the SSH server petteri? :P
[03:15] <petteri> How...
[03:15] <petteri> I just have installed it
[03:15] <petteri> :D
[03:16] <tritium> It should have started when you installed it
[03:16] <petteri> Hmm
[03:16] <petteri> WEll, if not, how I can start it?
[03:16] <guim> membreya, I see my 2 drives in nautilus
[03:16] <tritium> sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[03:16] <membreya> but you can't select them guim?
[03:16] <guim> membreya, here is my line in /etc/fstab
[03:17] <guim> /dev/hda        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 rw,user,noauto  0       0
[03:17] <guim> /dev/hdb        /media/cdrom1   udf,iso9660 rw,user,noauto  0       0
[03:17] <guim> I change ro -> rw
[03:17] <membreya> did you only just change that guim?
[03:17] <membreya> have you done a sudo mount -a?
[03:17] <petteri> REstarting openBSD secure shell server : Done
[03:17] <guim> ok I try
[03:17] <petteri> Hmm
[03:18] <tritium> petteri, you don't seem to have a route to the other machine
[03:18] <bborkk> Hi, there are several threads over on Ubuntu's Bugzilla regarding XMMS not working.  I haven't completely untangled the threads... anyone know what is going on?
[03:18] <bborkk> Seems like it might be something with glibc or libmikmod2 or how XMMS is packaged or apt.
[03:18] <guim> ok mount -a change nothing
[03:18] <petteri> What you mean tritium?
[03:18] <tritium> petteri, since you couldn't ping it, it means your can't reach it
[03:18] <guim> I see my 2 drives in nautilus computer:///
[03:19] <tritium> there's a routing problem
[03:19] <jbailey> bborkk: I'm using xmms on two boxes here (ppc and i386) under ubuntu with no problems.
[03:19] <petteri> What I then should do?
[03:19] <bborkk> jbailey: Warty or Hoary?
[03:19] <jbailey> bborkk: Hoary.
[03:20] <bborkk> jbailey: Hm.  XMMS starts up fine, but hangs when it tries to play anything, reporting that libmikmod2 is missing.
[03:20] <bborkk> jbailey: Do you have NVidia drivers installed?
[03:20] <tritium> petteri, one minute...
[03:20] <jbailey> bborkk: I have an nVidia driver on a machine that doesn't have speakers attached.
[03:20] <Guardiann> my xmms works great also
[03:20] <daniels> bborkk: ah yes, that's a glibc bug.  either uninstall nvidia-glx, or install libmikmod2.
[03:20] <jbailey> bborkk: I could try playing something and see if it starts.  I just won't hear the sound.
[03:21] <jbailey> daniels: Eh?
[03:21] <bborkk> daniels: Why is nvidia-glx included?  I have an ATI card.
[03:21] <G2> what build tools does ubuntu use for docbook xml?
[03:22] <membreya> guim: have you tried doing a sudo nautilus burn:/// ... I did that and see that I'm getting errors on my console
[03:22] <jbailey> Looks like I have libmikmod2 on all of my machines, pulled in when I installes gstreamer0.8-plugins
[03:23] <bborkk> jbailey: Ah.  That makes sense.
[03:23] <daniels> jbailey: #219352
[03:23] <daniels> bborkk: ah, it must be something else, then.  sorry.
[03:24] <bborkk> daniels: I do have the nvidia-glx package, though.  Can't figure out why.
[03:24] <daniels> bborkk: in that case, that'll probably be the issue?
[03:25] <bborkk> daniels: But why would I have that package if I don't have an NVidia card?
[03:25] <bborkk> daniels: bug #219352 doesn't seem to exist on bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[03:26] <guim> membreya, Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[03:26] <membreya> guim..try doing it with a sudo
[03:26] <jbailey> bborkk: If the bug number is over 200,000, it's certainly the Debian BTS. =)
[03:26] <bborkk> daniels: Actually, I take that back.  I only have nvidia-kernel-common installed.  Still, though, why?
[03:26] <bborkk> jbailey: Ah.  :)
[03:26] <guim> I try it with sudo
[03:28] <daniels> bborkk: ah, in that case, it won't trigger for you -- that bug is on bugs.debian.org, too
[03:29] <membreya> gah..now my cd burner has disappeared..hrm :|
[03:29] <membreya> will figure it out yet
[03:29] <bborkk> daniels: What won't trigger?  The bug?  I definitely see the symptoms posted in the bug report.
[03:30] <daniels> bborkk: does it crash?
[03:32] <bborkk> daniels: Doesn't crash, just spits "libmikmod.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" to the console on startup and hangs when attempting to play anything.
[03:33] <r3v3rb> afternoon
[03:33] <bborkk> daniels: It seems installing libmikmod fixes this, but apt should take care of it.  The bug report you pointed to indicates it is a problem with glibc.
[03:33] <r3v3rb> quick question, is there a way to get nautilus to ope up in 'browse folder' mode by default ?
[03:34] <ubunrot2> i need some help what is the best appl for connect resoucs of windows
[03:35] <bborkk> r3v3rb: open up nautilus, go to edit->preferences->behavior and click "always open in browser windows"
[03:36] <bborkk> ubunrot2: come again?
[03:36] <r3v3rb> bborkk, ta da !! ook and ye shall find !!! doh i feel dumb for not seeing that one !
[03:36] <bborkk> r3v3rb: I think I had to ask about that, too.  :)
[03:37] <daniels> bborkk: right -- the problem being that dlopen should just say 'libmikmod is not available' and xmms continues, and that's fine.  but it doesn't, ergo glibc bug.
[03:37] <bborkk> daniels: So, I guess this is upstream?
[03:38] <jbailey> bborkk: It's hard to promise that.  We have some linker hacks in our tree, and our tree is also 18 months or so out of date.
[03:38] <ubunrot2> i have linneighorhood runing but i cant do nathing
[03:38] <r3v3rb> daniels, is it a bug in the updater that when doing an upgrade from array-3 the cursor defaults to an ugly black one and i loose the 'industrail theme' ?
[03:38] <ubunrot2> so
[03:38] <jbailey> bborkk: I don't know the Hoary+1 plans with glibc, but there will a Debian update after sarge.
[03:38] <ubunrot2> ther are other prog doing the same
[03:39] <bborkk> jbailey: hm.  so should i install libmikmod and hope since mdz and you guys are in the know on this bug that it will get fixed, or should i not use xmms for now?
[03:41] <bebek> hello...
[03:41] <r3v3rb> bborkk, you could always use xine instead ! my preferred audio/video player
[03:41] <r3v3rb> hi bebek
[03:41] <bebek> why do i get this while doing apt-get upgrade: Errors were encountered while processing:
[03:41] <bebek>  /var/cache/apt/archives/xlibmesa-gl_6.8.1-1ubuntu15_i386.deb
[03:41] <bebek>  /var/cache/apt/archives/gnome-icon-theme_2.9.91-0ubuntu2_all.deb
[03:42] <bborkk> r3v3rb: I prefer xine for video, but xmms for audio.  can't stand the totem/iMusic interface.
[03:42] <r3v3rb> no idea bebek i had the gnome-icon-theme one too
[03:42] <daniels> r3v3rb: yes, it's already been filed
[03:42] <daniels> bborkk: yeah
[03:42] <daniels> bborkk: install libmikmod2 for now
[03:42] <r3v3rb> bborkk, when i got rid of totem-gstreamer it ballsed up my hoary - had to reinstall again
[03:42] <jbailey> bborkk: Mmm.  I'm guessing that filing a bug on xmms saying that for Hoary it needs to have libmikmod2 in its depends field until Hoary.
[03:42] <timothy_> hey, I'm trying to use Azureus, and when configuring my connection I get this error message: Testing port 6881 ... NAT Error
[03:42] <timothy_> . Can anyone help? another port to try?
[03:42] <jbailey> Since libmikmod2 is part of gstreamer0.8-plugins, I don't think it's that big of a deal.
[03:43] <bborkk> daniels: okay.  cheers.
[03:43] <bebek> admittedly, i installed the fglrx from ati, instead from ubuntu repository.. and that conflicts with the xlibmesa-gl from ubuntu repository...
[03:43] <r3v3rb> timothy_, is 6881 open on your firewall ?
[03:43] <bebek> how do i make apt-get so that it does not update xlibmesa-gl ?
[03:43] <bborkk> jbailey: Not a bad idea.  Should I do that?
[03:43] <r3v3rb> who's canonical here by the way ?
[03:44] <IRCMark> hi I've a problem
[03:44] <bborkk> r3v3rb: The company behind Ubuntu.
[03:44] <r3v3rb> just want to congratulate you all for a lovely linux experience even with the bugs
[03:44] <IRCMark> my synaptics says i've a damaged packet
[03:44] <r3v3rb> :)
[03:44] <r3v3rb> i know who canonical is - but who here works for them bborkk
[03:44] <IRCMark> my synaptics says i've a damaged packet, how can I solve the problem?
[03:45] <bborkk> r3v3rb: Ah.  I can only guess.  Not me.
[03:45] <bebek> my glxgears shows 761.600 FPS.. is that normal for a computer with 3d acceleration card?
[03:45] <jbailey> bborkk: Yeah.  I'd put a note in there refering to http://bugs.debian.org/219352
[03:46] <jbailey> bebek: It's faster than non-accellerated in most cases, but slower than I'd expect if everything were working optimally.  If you have an AGP card, it might have been forced into PCI mode for some reason.
[03:46] <bebek> i have a pci express card..
[03:46] <IRCMark> my synaptics says i've a damaged packet, how can I solve the problem?
[03:47] <jbailey> bebek: I don't know anything about PCI Express, sorry.
[03:47] <guim> tritium, I install k3b
[03:47] <guim> and it works
[03:47] <bebek> jbailey: where are you from? you sounds familiar...
[03:47] <mz2> hmm, java programs crashes when i switch back to the workspace on which i'm running them
[03:47] <bebek> jbailey: i know someone from my uni with login jbailey
[03:47] <mz2> crash
[03:48] <mz2> or rather, they don't literally crash, but they stop updating the UI
[03:48] <jbailey> bebek: My name isn't terribly unique. =)  I live in Toronto, used to live in Vancouver, and I attend the University of Athabasca (Distance Ed)
[03:48] <jbailey> bebek: So its' probably not me. =)
[03:48] <bebek> oh ok...
[03:48] <bebek> hehehe
[03:48] <bebek> i know james bailey, a lecturer from my uni
[03:48] <bebek> :P
[03:49] <bebek> what is meant by "The following packages have been kept back:" while performing apt-get upgrade?
[03:53] <imp> hello to all, sorry for my english but i have few questions :) about my ubuntu settings :)
[03:53] <imp> can any help my ?
[03:54] <ZorroBytes> imp: just ask.
[03:54] <surrounder> imp: I could give it a try :)
[03:54] <imp> ok :)
[03:54] <imp> thx
[03:54] <r3v3rb> bye guys
[03:55] <imp> how can i make my pc auto shutdown ... try all options with apm etc ... but no result :(
[03:56] <Examancer> crontab?
[03:56] <membreya> stupid question..but how do you start a program with a set priority? ie 0?
[03:56] <mz2> this is with random swing apps. they just stop updating the ui (resizing the window or anything doesn't have any effect either)
[03:57] <snowblink> membreya: nice
[03:57] <tritium> guim, sorry, I got caught up with work.  Good, I'm glad you have a solution.
[03:57] <Examancer> imp: just add a crontab for the shutdown command, and schedule it whenever you want
[03:58] <tritium> petteri, still unable to reach the machine?
[03:58] <bebek> membreya: i don't think normal user have the privilege to start a process with priority 0... i could be wrong though..
[03:58] <guim> yep
[03:58] <membreya> snowblink: but from a bashscript? how would I configure it?
[03:58] <petteri> Hmm
[03:58] <petteri> I dont need anymore help
[03:58] <petteri> Thank you
[03:58] <guim> could be nice to work with nautilus instead
[03:58] <tritium> petteri, sorry, got caught up with work.  What was the problem?
[03:58] <guim> but at least my cd is burned
[03:58] <membreya> just my boinc is starting with a very low priority which means my athlon 64 steps down to 1ghz
[03:58] <petteri> Nothing anymore :)
[03:58] <tritium> guim, yes, I agree
[03:58] <membreya> I have to reset it to 0 each time a WU starts
[03:59] <petteri> I have fixed problem ;>
[03:59] <snowblink> membreya: off the top of me head, I don't know. Maybe look at expect
[03:59] <tritium> petteri, but what was causing it before?
[03:59] <imp> this question -> http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/post-157440.html
[03:59] <membreya> lol tritium i got one cd burnt before..now it refuses to show the cd burner again in k3b or nautilus.. I give up for today
[03:59] <imp> how make pc auto power off after shutdown
[03:59] <tritium> membreya, :(
[04:00] <bebek> imp: i had that problem before as well. but after upgrading to hoary, the problem is solved...
[04:00] <bebek> imp: are you still using warty?
[04:00] <imp> yep :(
[04:00] <imp> just upgrade ?
[04:00] <bebek> imp: umm... don't ask me... hehehe... so far i don't have any problem with hoary...
[04:01] <imp> :) lucky :)
[04:01] <imp> try tomorrow
[04:01] <imp> thx ;)
[04:01] <bebek> good luck
[04:01] <bebek> no prob
[04:01] <imp> and printing question
[04:01] <bborkk> jbailey, daniels: bug report submitted.  thanks.
[04:02] <imp> on first PC installed HP LaserJet-5L ... over network try using cups print documents from Second PC, ipp://<first>/printers/laserjet-5l ... no result :(
[04:03] <AcidMaX> anyone using Hoary? and how stable is it right now?
[04:04] <bborkk> AcidMaX: I like it.
[04:04] <tritium> AcidMaX, quite good
[04:04] <bborkk> very usable.
[04:04] <membreya> hmmm with oo.o how do I get it to automatically place the icons back in gnome?
[04:04] <AcidMaX> I installed Warty last night so I am a first time ubuntu user :) but I would like to have the newer software and such that hoary is using.
[04:05] <ErsatzHatrack> AcidMax: I just did a clean install and it's working great so far.
[04:05] <ErsatzHatrack> but
[04:05] <bborkk> AcidMaX: Check out the FAQ on updating from Warty to Hoary.
[04:05] <ErsatzHatrack> i had tried to upgrade from warty before and it ended up borked
[04:05] <AcidMaX> yeh I would do a fresh install
[04:05] <AcidMaX> i just installed Warty last night so its not that big of a deal.
[04:05] <ErsatzHatrack> probably something i did, since I'm a newbie too
[04:05] <imp> gl to all ;)
[04:06] <AcidMaX> trying to find a good distro, so far ubuntu seems fast, but been thinking about trying gentoo as well.
[04:06] <bebek> hmmm.. after apt-get upgrade, my theme in gnome does not work anymore
[04:06] <bebek> is this a bug in the repository?
[04:06] <bebek> and all out of sudden there are 3 new icons in the desktop: Computer, Document and Trash..
[04:07] <bebek> also all the icons in the bottom panel of the window are gone
[04:07] <surrounder> bborkk: where is that FAQ ?
[04:07] <bebek> by the way, does anyone know how to turn on the DMA for my dvd drive?
[04:08] <surrounder> hallo Dutchy
[04:09] <blah09> hi is there like a gnome applet to control xmms?
[04:15] <manobes> blah09: You could try gdesklets.
[04:17] <bborkk> surrounder: Actually, I have no idea where that FAQ is located.  Huh.
[04:18] <surrounder> :)
[04:25] <jaia> Anyone got a clue as to where I can find my USB drive ?
[04:26] <jaia> Would it be at /media/usb ? Or /media/sda ?
[04:26] <Stereotype>  /dev/sda
[04:26] <jaia> Ah
[04:26] <poningru> it should hotplug
[04:26] <jaia> It doesn't..
[04:26] <jaia> It's an ntfs drive.
[04:26] <jaia> Would that explain why ?
[04:27] <dr_willis> hmm.
[04:27] <dr_willis> usb hard drive? or memory stick?
[04:27] <jaia> USB
[04:27] <jaia> External Hardrive.
[04:28] <toresbe> har drive?  repository of bad jokes? (like this one? :P)
[04:28] <dr_willis> check dmesg output. and perhaps 'fdisk -l' and "mount" - see if its seen/mounted anywhere
[04:28] <blah09> thanks manobes
[04:28] <robsta> hi
[04:28] <robsta> after upgrade to hoary i can't login any more
[04:29] <robsta> .xsession-errors doesn't tell about stuff failing
[04:29] <jaia> Yep, it's on /dev/sda according to fdisk -l
[04:30] <dr_willis> but the partions should be like sda1 sda2 and so forth.
[04:31] <jaia> There is an sda1
[04:31] <jaia> But it doesn't show the content of it.
[04:31] <jaia> So I'm guessing it doesn't mount it with ntfs properties and such.
[04:32] <Martok> Hey, can anyone help me configure my serial mouse? I don't know how to load the modules for it.
[04:32] <Martok> Or find which module I need for that matter.
[04:32] <dr_willis> eww :P
[04:32] <dr_willis> i cant even rember taht
[04:32] <Martok> I'm using the serial mouse in an experiment.
[04:32] <dr_willis> jaia,  could manually mount the thing. read only.
[04:32] <jaia> Perhaps I should update hotplug.
[04:33] <jaia> dr_willis, I will try that if this fails.
[04:37] <dr_willis> if manyally mounting it fails.. its more then Hotplug that needs to be worked on.
[04:37] <jaia> Installing the new hotplug worked :)
[04:37] <Jelte> hi there... does anyone know if the Windows2000 install from CD will allow you to select one partition and one only?  I know its a sacrilege, but i need to make my ubuntu machine dual boot....
[04:38] <evarlast> Jelte: yes, it always has, and it is the default.
[04:39] <[bascule] > Jelte, sure s00 will do that, it will also wipe out lilo/grub so have the CD handy to rescue it
[04:39] <Jelte> [bascule] , aahh that sounds a little harsh...
[04:39] <[bascule] > well that's windows for you
[04:39] <Jelte> [bascule] , so install windows on an empty partition and rerun ubuntu cd?
[04:39] <dr_willis> windows has always trashed the mbr. :()
[04:40] <dr_willis> well they put on a nice clean NEW mbr for ya. :P
[04:40] <[bascule] > yeah, I'm new to ubuntu so i unno what the rescue options are
[04:40] <[bascule] > you may need to chroot ubuntu and redo the bootloader from there
[04:40] <lucien> jaia,
[04:40] <lucien> Slet.
[04:40] <Jelte> anyone? i dont particularly want to re-install my ubuntu stuff... will the cd repair the mbr and leave the rest ok?
[04:40] <lucien> Download de updates, dan wordt hotplug ook automatisch geinstalleerd.
[04:41] <dr_willis> Jelte,  if not you can get to a shell and chroot to the isntalled system and rerun the boot loader installer.
[04:42] <flosch> hi
[04:42] <nosilver4u> still wondering if anyone has had any luck with the xorg fglrx drivers?
[04:42] <Jelte> dr_willis, that sounds good... you wouldn't happen to know where i could find some more detailed description of those steps would you?
[04:42] <dr_willis> Jelte,  not really.. learned it soo long ago.. and done it soo many times.. :P
[04:43] <dr_willis> but not had to do it in the last year.
[04:43] <Jelte> dr_willis, *grin* fair enough
[04:43] <dr_willis> with lilo its rather trivial.. with grub - just as easy.. but you need to know grub :P
[04:43] <dr_willis> not sure what helper tools ubuntui has in that area
[04:43] <dr_willis> or make a boot disk :P
[04:44] <[bascule] > http://enterprise.linux.com/enterprise/04/11/18/232240.shtml?tid=102&tid=101
[04:44] <[bascule] > seems reasonable to me .. :)
[04:44] <Hwolf> nosilver4u, those drivers work ok.
[04:44] <Jelte> dr_willis, ta
[04:47] <jaia> Yay, I just had my first crash on linux.
[04:47] <jaia> :D
[04:48] <bborkk> daniels, jbailey: Okay, I just rebooted after installing libmikmod2.  Starting xmms doesn't return any warnings now.  However, it still hangs as soon as I try to play anything.
[04:48] <jaia> lucien, probleem is opgelost door de nieuwe hotplug ja.
[04:48] <daniels> bborkk: try running killall esd
[04:48] <jaia> beep-media-player hung when I tried to play an mp3 as well
[04:48] <jaia> :(
[04:49] <jaia> And rhythmbox is whining about nothing being associated with mp3 files.
[04:49] <bborkk> daniels: Bingo.  ???
[04:49] <jaia> Actually, rhytmbox instantly closes now when I tried to load any mp3's into it.
[04:50] <jbailey> bborkk: Is this a fresh Ubunut install, or a Debian upgrade?
[04:50] <AcidMaX> is there a good PHP IDE for gnome?
[04:50] <bborkk> jbailey: It started as a Warty fresh install and I upgraded to Hoary a couple of months ago.
[04:51] <jbailey> bborkk: Hmm.  So permissions and stuff are likely all still fine and such then.
[04:51] <bborkk> jbailey: Most likely.
[04:52] <bborkk> jbailey: The only non-standard (i.e., not through apt) things I've done are compile and install a .deb of MPlayer and install the Java plugin for Firefox.
[04:53] <jbailey> bborkk: I had problems like that once before when I was having OSS emulation issues with Alsa.  Try doing a 'mv ~/.xmms ~/.xmms-old' and rerunning it and see if the problem recurs.
[04:53] <Martok> Can anybody help me modprobe my serial mouse and load the module please?
[04:53] <bborkk> jbailey: What exactly is esd?
[04:53] <Martok> It's a sound daemon.
[04:53] <bborkk> Martok: What exactly is the problem?
[04:53] <jbailey> bborkk: enlightenment sound daemon.  It processes sound events and muxes them towards your sound card.
[04:54] <Martok> bborkk: I need to modprobe my serial mouse and load the module, but I don't know how.
[04:54] <Martok> I want to use 2 mice for my Ubuntu setup.
[04:54] <Martok> I already have the ps/2 mouse setup, it was detected in the install, but the serial mouse wasn't.
[04:54] <bborkk> jbailey: Speaking of which, all my system alarm bells have somehow been mapped to the entire screen flashing, like a refresh, but no sound event.
[04:55] <tritium> modprobe sermouse
[04:55] <Martok> tritium: Thanks, you helped me before.
[04:55] <jbailey> bborkk: Err.  Tha'ts a new one to me. =)
[04:55] <tritium> Martok, :)
[04:55] <LinuxJones> Martok, have you seen >> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SerialMouseHowto/view?searchterm=serial%20mouse
[04:55] <bborkk> Martok: type "lsmod" to see which modules are loaded.
[04:55] <[bascule] > probably have to add the mouse to xorg.conf to
[04:55] <tritium> Martok, it modprobe works, don't forget to add sermouse to your /etc/modules
[04:55] <bborkk> jbailey: Yeah, it's really annoying.
[04:55] <Martok> LinuxJones: Yeah, you told me yesterday, but that was for using the serial mouse as your primary device.
[04:56] <bborkk> jbailey: So, why did I have to killall esd?
[04:56] <jbailey> bborkk: Did you try moving the config of xmms out of the way first?
[04:56] <jbailey> bborkk: See whether or not there's something weird in there.
[04:56] <bborkk> jbailey: Okay.  One sec.
[04:56] <christianp> hi all
[04:57] <Timbo> the sooner alsa takes over with a software mixer enabled by default the better
[04:57] <srid> where do I get zope interfaces for Ubuntu?
[04:57] <david> cannot get sound to work after I upgrade to Hoary
[04:58] <christianp> i installed ubuntu over my laptop, i add battery display status in my panel, but it says N/D (no battery present)
[04:58] <bborkk> jbailey: I moved .xmms.  Didn't look like there was anything unusual in there: config  menurc  Plugins  Skins  xmms.m3u
[04:58] <christianp> what's the matter?
[04:58] <bborkk> christianp: Is there actually a battery?  :)
[04:58] <christianp> yes :)
[04:59] <bborkk> christianp: What kind of laptop is it?
[04:59] <christianp> acer aspire 1670
[04:59] <Martok> tritium: Don't I have to add this to my XF86config file?
[04:59] <bborkk> christianp: Can't help you there.  You might want to check the laptop forum/list (?)
[05:00] <tritium> Martok, yeah, you should do that too.
[05:00] <bborkk> jbailey: So, should I reboot and see what happens?
[05:00] <christianp> bborkk, no
[05:00] <christianp> bborkk, have i to install some additional package?
[05:00] <bborkk> christianp: Come again?
[05:02] <bborkk> christianp: You might want to check http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=19
[05:02] <bborkk> oh well.
[05:05] <AcidMaX> does gnome support superkaramba like kde? or is there something similar?
[05:05] <surrounder> gdesklets maybe?
[05:06] <surrounder> AcidMaX: http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/
[05:06] <AcidMaX> surrounder, looks like that might be it, cpu monitors etc.
[05:06] <surrounder> :)
[05:06] <AcidMaX> thanks.
[05:06] <Dreamer3> ok
[05:06] <Dreamer3> can't seem to mount a smb filesystem...
[05:07] <srikat> how many GB should a partition for ubuntu be and what filesystem should it be? (I am about to partition using partition magic)
[05:07] <Schaap> Hi, i installed ubuntu on an old pc  ('96 i believe) but it doesnt see the full 20 gig HD i added next to the 4 gig already in there
[05:07] <Schaap> Is it a bios thing?
[05:07] <Schaap> or hardware
[05:07] <djk> have you mounted it?
[05:08] <Schaap> Nah i checked the bios first
[05:08] <Schaap> it showed 8 from the 20
[05:09] <mjg59> The BIOS won't see more than 8
[05:09] <Schaap> well, give or take a MB
[05:09] <Martok> Does anybody know the protocal for serial mice?
[05:09] <Dreamer3> ah, need smbfs
[05:09] <Dreamer3> didn't tell me that
[05:09] <djk> wow, old PC.
[05:09] <Schaap> But ubunto will?
[05:09] <djk> maybe you need to update your bios
[05:09] <Schaap> u
[05:09] <Schaap> Yeah, thought so
[05:09] <srikat> how many GB should a partition for ubuntu be and what filesystem should it be? (I am about to partition using partition magic)
[05:09] <mjg59> Schaap: Yeah, Ubuntu ought to see it fine
[05:10] <Schaap> need to find out how that bios thing works :)
[05:10] <Schaap> great :)
[05:10] <mjg59> Is anyone else getting strange messages from carelos when they say something?
[05:10] <srikat> wow. I am invisible
[05:10] <zeedo> test
[05:10] <srikat> yes mjg59
[05:10] <zeedo> mjg59: nothing happened for me there
[05:10] <LinuxJones> srikat, folks are probably doing other things
[05:11] <[PoVal] Dutchy> E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporari ly unavailable) <= what does that mean? i doesnt give a message of how to fix it
[05:11] <bborkk> jbailey: I rebooted and still have the same problem, even though I moved the .xmms folder.
[05:11] <LinuxJones> srikat, is this a desktop system ?
[05:11] <srikat> yes Jones, currently NTFS partition
[05:11] <evarlast> lol reboot.
[05:12] <LinuxJones> srikat, have you used Linux before ?
[05:12] <jbailey> bborkk: Yuck, ah well.  My next guess is probably some sort of broken bits with the sound setup.  Does rhythmbox work at all?
[05:12] <srikat> no
[05:12] <LinuxJones> srikat, to keep it simple 10 gigs
[05:12] <bborkk> jbailey: Rhythmbox seems to be working, although it wasn't a couple of weeks ago.
[05:12] <Martok> Arg, I'm just going to use Dynebolic for this PC. Maybe I'll put Ubuntu on my next desktop...
[05:13] <srikat> it is C drive, NTFS parition. I want to split it so one part is for Linux and another part is for data storage of windows XP (which is on D drive)
[05:13] <srikat> some Team dude is spamming in PM
[05:13] <Martok> Yeah, but what the heck is he spamming?
[05:13] <bborkk> srikat: I got that as well.
[05:13] <Martok> It seemed like he messed up the advertisement.
[05:13] <jbailey> bborkk: Okay.  I think xmms has an alsa driver in there, but uses OSS by default.
[05:13] <LinuxJones> srikat, have you tried the Live CD to see if you might like Linux ?
[05:14] <Martok> In order to effectively use Linux, it must like YOU!
[05:14] <bborkk> jbailey: How would it know when to switch and why isn't it doing so?
[05:14] <jbailey> bborkk: IT doesn't, it's a manual setting.
[05:14] <srikat> I tried some knoppi in past. It was ok. Now I have free time so want to learn something new
[05:14] <jbailey> bborkk: Bring up the prefererences and look to see what Output Plugin is set to.
[05:14] <toresbe> hmm
[05:14] <bborkk> jbailey: Okay.
[05:15] <LinuxJones> srikat, 10 gig will be fine for you to get installed.
[05:15] <srikat> ok, and the partition type?
[05:15] <[bascule] > [PoVal] Dutchy, make sure yiu haven't got synaptic running at the same time as CLI attemtps to apt-get
[05:15] <LinuxJones> srikat, stick with ext3, but you can do that in the Ubuntu installer
[05:15] <[bascule] > other thatn that track down the lock file in /var/cache/apt or /var/lock/
[05:15] <bborkk> jbailey: OSS driver 1.2.10
[05:16] <jbailey> bborkk: Okay.  Try changing it to alsa, close and reopoen, see if that fixes it.
[05:16] <[PoVal] Dutchy> well i never use synaptic :o it's gotta be something else :)
[05:17] <mjt> anyone know what's up with hoary repository -- 2nd day now ?  I can't apt-get update, it complains about MD5Sum mismatch for Packages.gz files...
[05:17] <srikat> LinuxJones, so Ubuntu will detect that my computer has C and D drive, and if I choose to install ubuntu to C, does it provide me an option to split that C drive into one 10 MB chunk and ubuntu get installed in it?
[05:18] <srikat> 10 GB*
[05:18] <bborkk> jbailey: ** WARNING **: alsa_setup(): Failed to open pcm device (default): Device or resource busy
[05:19] <LinuxJones> srikat, yes you can add or remove partitions and reformat. Use partition Magic to free up the space
[05:19] <mjt> srikat: if you have some unpartitioned space in your "C:" drive, you will be able to partition it
[05:19] <bborkk> jbailey: Also, gives me a dialog box saying I should check: the soundcard is configured properly, correct output plugin is selected, no other program is blocking the soundcard.
[05:19] <Martok> I hope the Hoary detects serial mice!
[05:19] <Guardiann> bborkk my xmms is set for esound
[05:20] <[bascule] > [PoVal] Dutchy, yeah and all the google hits are debian, I'm new to apt but rpm/urpmi does the same/similar thing
[05:20] <jbailey> bborkk: Hmm.  I don't have an good guess then off hand.  Strange that rhythmbox would play and that xmms wouldn't.
[05:20] <Martok> I can't believe I still can't get my serial mouse to work. It's just a mouse! Haha.
[05:20] <[bascule] > it's a lock file somewhere that needs removed
[05:20] <bborkk> Guardiann, jbailey: I'll try that out.  How would I know this without trial and error?
[05:20] <manobes> Martok: get a usb mouse
[05:21] <cmg> hi.. i am having trouble getting my Ubuntu box to work with DHCP.. any idea why its not picking up its domain name?
[05:21] <LinuxJones> Martok, usb mice are like $ 5.00 :D
[05:21] <manobes> http://www.softwareandstuff.com/ACC10690.html
[05:21] <Martok> manobes: No, I've already built something out of my serial mouse.
[05:21] <Guardiann> Esound was trial and error for me :)
[05:21] <jbailey> bborkk: Well.  The issue is generally that the sound driver seems to be hooped for some reason.  The hard part is figuring out which reason.
[05:21] <mjt> Martok: try sudo modprobe sermouse
[05:21] <bborkk> Guardiann, jbailey: esound is the answer... thanks!
[05:21] <jbailey> bborkk: It works out of the box in most settings.
[05:21] <Guardiann> yw
[05:21] <Martok> mjt: I did, but it still didn't work.
[05:21] <srikat> LinuxJones, mjt: thanks
[05:21] <mjt> Martok: does it recognizes your mouse in the first place (try dmesg) ?
[05:21] <Martok> I've already built my serial mouse into something, I can't easily replace it with a USB mouse.
[05:21] <bborkk> jbailey: Thanks for all your help.
[05:22] <cmg> i am having trouble getting my Ubuntu box to work with DHCP.. any idea why its not picking up its domain name?
[05:22] <zazlinux> hi everybody, i just installed ubuntu and my com1 mouse don't run, anybody know how turn on it? i'm novice, sorry
[05:22] <mjt> Martok: also, is mousedev module loaded?
[05:22] <Martok> mjt: Dynebolic recognizes it.
[05:22] <Martok> Yeah.
[05:22] <jbailey> bborkk: Glad I could contribute.
[05:22] <manobes> cmg: does ifconfig show your ethernet card?
[05:22] <bborkk> jbailey: Now it's time to file a bug report on my flashing screen.  :)
[05:23] <cmg> manobes.. yes
[05:23] <Martok> I think I'll just use Dynebolic on this PC instead of Ubuntu. I've had problems other then mice with Ubuntu.
[05:23] <cmg> manobes.. i can use it fine.. i just can't get to it (by name) from any other box
[05:24] <lucien> When I try to apt-get update my server list after adding merillat, or whatever it's called, I get an error that the public key is not available. Anyone knows how to solve that ?
[05:24] <manobes> cmg: What do you mean?  You want to log into it?
[05:25] <cmg> manobes.. i can only access it by IP
[05:25] <[bascule] > cmg, you need to add it's name to the other machines /etc/hosts , unless you have a lcal DNS server
[05:25] <cmg> i have a local DNS server.. using DHCP
[05:25] <zazlinux> hi everybody, i just installed ubuntu and my com1 mouse don't run, anybody know how turn on it? i'm novice, sorry
[05:26] <[bascule] > OK, beyond me then ...
[05:26] <LinuxJones> lucien, are you on Hoary ?
[05:26] <lucien> Yes.
[05:26] <manobes> cmg: and it works with other machines?
[05:26] <LinuxJones> lucien, >> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptAuthenticationInstructionsForHoary/view?searchterm=public%20key
[05:26] <lucien> Thank you.
[05:26] <FauxPasIII> I'm having some trouble with apt pinning... anybody help ?
[05:26] <cmg> all my Windoz boxes work with it..and my MEPIS Linux box works with it... but using DHCP with Ubuntu isn't working (although assigning a static IP works fine)
[05:27] <LinuxJones> cmg, if you assign static ip addressing then you don't need DHCP
[05:27] <bborkk> My system alarm sound event seems to be mapped to a refresh of my entire screen in an annoying flash.  No sound results.  Anyone else have this problem, know its cause, or know how to fix it?
[05:27] <Guardiann> zazlinux  try here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2661&highlight=serial+mouse+work
[05:27] <cmg> Linux.. i know.. but for this box i need to use DHCP
[05:27] <bruno> bonjour
[05:28] <missmarple> hello
[05:28] <cmg> my NOC doesnt like giving out static IP's
[05:28] <bruno> hello missmarple
[05:28] <LinuxJones> cmg, network-admin should get you fixed up
[05:28] <FauxPasIII> bborkk - It's called "Visual Bell"
[05:28] <Guardiann> bborkk sorry not me
[05:28] <missmarple> hello bruno
[05:28] <missmarple> can anyone help me with installation via PXE?
[05:28] <FauxPasIII> bborkk - It's probably set by your desktop environment
[05:28] <FauxPasIII> bborkk - What are you using ?
[05:29] <bborkk> FauxPasIII: Standard Hoary setup.
[05:29] <cmg> Linux-Jones.. i tried.. i can add a domain name.. but when I reboot, it updates everything from DHCP and then its gone
[05:30] <manobes> cmg: Can you set the server to give it the correct information?
[05:30] <FauxPasIII> bborkk - open up gnome-control-center
[05:30] <cmg> no
[05:30] <FauxPasIII> bborkk - in the sound applet
[05:30] <Dreamer3> any tips on mounting samba shares? i keep getting: cp: cannot create regular file `accessories.html': Input/output error
[05:30] <FauxPasIII> bborkk - third tab is "system bell"
[05:30] <FauxPasIII> bborkk - I'll bet that's where it's set wrong
[05:30] <LinuxJones> cmg, your trying to add some other static routes to local services but need dhcp for ipaddress right ?
[05:31] <cmg> no..i just want to use DHCP to get myself assigned an IP, domain name, etc
[05:31] <[bascule] > DNCP assigns domain names? I never knew that.
[05:31] <manobes> It's the job of the dhcp server to give the box that information though.
[05:31] <[bascule] > H*
[05:31] <cmg> manobes.. exactly
[05:31] <cmg> and its not
[05:31] <zazlinux> hi everybody, i just installed ubuntu and my com1 mouse don't run, anybody know how turn on it? i'm novice, sorry
[05:32] <manobes> so the problem is server side.
[05:32] <cmg> but it does to any other box.. just not to this Ubuntu
[05:32] <Guardiann> zazlinux did you check that site i posted for you
[05:32] <zazlinux> no, and without mouse i can't read up
[05:32] <LinuxJones> cmg, that's a server config problem, dhcp can be configured to assign that stuff by using MAC address if your nice to the network admin he might help you out :D
[05:32] <cmg> thats not an option ;)
[05:32] <LinuxJones> heh
[05:32] <bborkk> FauxPasIII: Ahhh.... that's so much better.  I can feel my sanity creeping back.  Thanks.
[05:33] <Dreamer3> any tips on mounting samba shares? i keep getting: cp: cannot create regular file `accessories.html': Input/output error?
[05:33] <FauxPasIII> bborkk - Glad to help !
[05:33] <cmg> LinuxJones.. if the domain doesnt come from DHCP, then i set it myself?
[05:33] <ninHer> hi all
[05:33] <LinuxJones> cmg, this is a "Secret Install" ?
[05:33] <cmg> basically
[05:33] <cmg> lol
[05:33] <LinuxJones> omg dude don't do it you can get fired for it :(
[05:33] <[bascule] > ah, clearer now
[05:33] <ninHer> i have a problem minimizing with ubuntu
[05:33] <ninHer> does anyone why?
[05:34] <ninHer> anything i minimize, dissappear
[05:34] <missmarple> anyone here with knowledge about netboot installation?
[05:34] <cmg> the prob is when I set the domain in network-admin.. after I reboot, its gone
[05:34] <manobes> cmg: you cold try poking around in /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf there's a "send host name" option in there
[05:34] <cmg> so i assumed DHCP was overwriting it
[05:34] <zerovertex> hello all. I'm a ubuntu/debian newbie. recently converted from redhat/fedora/yellowdog. me lika the ubuntu. you guys rocks.
[05:34] <maximaus> cmg: you are a candidate for a "live CD" LOL
[05:35] <Dreamer3> my user account is josh but on the samba server it's jgoebel, is that a problem?
[05:35] <LinuxJones> cmg, it will get overwritten probably by default yeah
[05:35] <Dreamer3> i'm connected with -o username=jgoebel
[05:35] <Dreamer3> :q
[05:35] <Schaap> Josh Goebel
[05:35] <cmg> LinuxJones.. so thats my prob.. how do i fix it?
[05:35] <Dreamer3> Schaap: great, but do you have an answer to my question :)
[05:35] <manobes> cmg: I think if you edit that config file it'll send the hostname to the DHCP server.
[05:36] <cmg> k manobes.. i'll have a look
[05:36] <Schaap> Nope
[05:39] <Dreamer3> sheesh
[05:39] <Dreamer3> this is very annoying
[05:39] <Dreamer3> linux to linux should i just be using nfs?
[05:41] <LinuxJones> Dreamer3, you can use nfs or Samba but for Linux-Linux most usually use nfs
[05:41] <zerovertex> i'm reading ubuntuguide.org. does flash plugin for mozilla work on ppc?
[05:41] <quentin> Hello, I would like to know how I can setup dhclient so that it sets ubuntu's ntp server through dhcp ( my dhcp server is broadcasting an ntp-server ip )
[05:42] <bruno> is someone know how to configure a local lan printer ?
[05:42] <LinuxJones> Dreamer3, you have to have the same account names on both systems I beileve, I don't have Samba installed so I can't confirm that.
[05:43] <Dreamer3> LinuxJones: that's very annoying
[05:43] <iMP> how to make local printer -> lan
[05:43] <LinuxJones> Dreamer3, have you looked @ the samba hoto ?
[05:43] <LinuxJones> Dreamer3, >> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba/view?searchterm=samba
[05:44] <Dreamer3> LinuxJones: no, but it worked find under debian before with the same names and i've had issues in the past, so i imagine that's it
[05:44] <LinuxJones> Dreamer3, well good luck anyways :)
[05:46] <missmarple> mhh
[05:46] <njs12345> daniels, you here?
[05:46] <daniels> sort of
[05:46] <[Spooky] > yo! yo! anyone good with lftp ?
[05:46] <njs12345> you do the maintaining for the X packages right?
[05:46] <daniels> yeah
[05:46] <njs12345> just wondering, will the next releases of all the X packages have the pkg-config files in them?
[05:47] <[Spooky] > i cant seem too download dirs, is that not possible ?
[05:47] <daniels> njs12345: nope
[05:47] <njs12345> oh, ok..
[05:48] <njs12345> guess I'll have to keep hacking the .pc files from xlibs CVS then
[05:48] <daniels> that's a modular-tree thing
[05:48] <daniels> yeah
[05:48] <daniels> or just install xlibs from cvs ;)
[05:48] <ninHer> anyone experiencing "vanishing windows" at minimizing?
[05:48] <njs12345> I guess ;)
[05:49] <ubunrot2> how i isntall my sound card
[05:49] <cmg> manobes.. i saw the options in that conf file and that didn't seem to work
[05:49] <cmg> anyways.. i found a hostname/IP i can borrow
[05:49] <cmg> how do I go back to the Ubuntu setup to rename my machine?
[05:50] <cmg> so the hostname i assign it's IP to matches the actual host name
[05:50] <floater> I think I need to set up some authorities... I am trying to run gedit but it says "authentication refused.." I am trying to open it as a root on user login. I have already read the manual of xauth but I don't know what should I set and how,anyone?
[05:50] <daniels> floater: use sudo
[05:50] <cmg> anyone know how to run the Ubunto setup again?
[05:51] <[Spooky] > i cant seem too download dirs with "lftp", is that not possible ? or are i doing a cmd the wrong way ?
[05:51] <ninHer> anyone experiencing "vanishing windows" at minimizing?
[05:51] <njs12345> ja.. `sudo gedit` works well
[05:51] <njs12345> anybody build Xgl on ubuntu? it looked kinda cool, so that's what I'm trying now
[05:51] <floater> daniels, that doesn't work
[05:52] <iMP> >> how installl Ubuntu print-server ?
[05:52] <LinuxJones> floater, you need to be in the account that actually did the install of Ubuntu
[05:52] <floater> I mean, I can open the file with sudo, but I get that error in terminal
[05:52] <HaloGray> I'm begining to get annoyed with rebuilding my wireless driver for every kernel update
[05:52] <HaloGray> is there any way I could slipstream the process?
[05:52] <manobes> cmg: just use network-admin
[05:53] <cmg> manobes.. that will just rename the host name for networking
[05:53] <floater> well there's something funny.. I am new linux user so :S but I can't really login to my ubuntu with root... I used "root" as user name in redhat but in ubuntu I just can't login to ubuntu as root
[05:53] <surrounder> floater: sudo passwd root
[05:53] <HaloGray> ubuntu has root disabled for security purposes
[05:53] <surrounder> floater: or just use sudo for everything :)
[05:53] <manobes> cmg: You can set the IP in there as well, no?
[05:54] <cmg> yes
[05:54] <floater> sudo/root ... hmm ok
[05:54] <cmg> and i will.. but i also want to change the host name other places
[05:54] <HaloGray> type sudo command goes here
[05:54] <ficusplanet> Hey everyone.  Seeing as the feature freeze is today, does anyone know if usplash is going to make it in?
[05:54] <HaloGray> and it will give root access
[05:54] <manobes> /etc/hosts
[05:54] <cmg> i hate having the misnamed box where it appears on the network as one thing
[05:54] <[Spooky] > hm i guess lftp cant download dirs then :/ ...
[05:54] <HaloGray> feature freeze?
[05:54] <cmg> but thinks its name is something else
[05:54] <iMP> just type in console <sudo><your command>
[05:54] <cmg> manobes.. etc/hosts.. same thing
[05:54] <njs12345> HaloGray: think.. only new things that make it into Hoary are bugfixes and such
[05:55] <HaloGray> ah
[05:55] <cmg> i'll just rebuild it.. thanks
[05:55] <HaloGray> I hope the fix the audio issue with esd
[05:55] <cmg> manobes.. do u know how to re-run setup
[05:55] <cmg> at the end of the ubuntu install it tells u
[05:55] <cmg> i just dont know
[05:55] <iMP> what is current version of Ububntu ?
[05:56] <njs12345> iMP: depends
[05:56] <ficusplanet> 4.10 - Warty Warthod
[05:56] <ficusplanet> *Warthog
[05:56] <LinuxJones> cmg, dpkg-reconfigure base-config ??
[05:56] <njs12345> Warty Warthog is the "stable" version, which you'd give to your parents and so on
[05:56] <cmg> k i'll try
[05:56] <iMP> and unstable ?
[05:56] <njs12345> Hoary Hedgehog is the unstable version, which is what all the devs and bleeding-edge people run
[05:57] <iMP> how fix in Warty release auto power off after shutdown ?
[05:58] <Dreamer3> ok
[05:58] <Dreamer3> if my user accounts have DIFFERENT names and uids, what's the best way to share files between systems?
[05:58] <Dreamer3> making sure my uid and name are the same on all systems is getting frustrating...
[05:58] <HaloGray> isn't there a chgroup cmmand for that?
[05:58] <manobes> Dreamer, nfs
[05:58] <HaloGray> chgroup users or something?
[05:58] <HaloGray> that way anybody with user access can access files
[05:59] <Dreamer3> manobes: don't uid's have to line up for nfs to work?
[05:59] <Hwolf> or just chmod those files.
[05:59] <manobes> Dreamer3: or just use "open location" in nautilus
[05:59] <Dreamer3> manobes: smb doesn't work because the user names are different (that's got to be it)
[05:59] <Dreamer3> manobes: it worked fine on debian, but usernames matched
[06:00] <manobes> Dreamer3: Just open it with ssh...
[06:00] <manobes> with nautilus, just open ssh://user@host
[06:00] <Dreamer3> manobes: so mount it with ssh you mean?
[06:01] <Dreamer3> start thinking console and not gnome :)
[06:01] <Dreamer3> i'm not a GUI guy always
[06:01] <manobes> Dreamer3: as far as nautilus is concerned it'll look mounted, but it's not, it's using ssh (or sftp) to transfer files
[06:01] <manobes> Dreamer3: nor am I, but that's the easiest way I can think of
[06:01] <Dreamer3> manobes: ssh has a filesystem thingy now
[06:01] <manobes> Dreamer3: You could try sftp
[06:02] <manobes> But the nautilus way will work, so it might be faster to just do it and be done.
[06:02] <Dreamer3> but of course ubuntu doesn't build that module :(
[06:02] <Dreamer3> manobes: i do this everyday
[06:02] <Dreamer3> manobes: i need console access
[06:02] <manobes> :(
[06:03] <manobes> Dreamer3: You'll have to dig in the nfs manpages then.  There are ways to make it work if you have differnt uid's, but I don't know how.
[06:03] <SwissPhoenix> Dreamer3: what fs thingy? sftp? it's not an fs...
[06:03] <Dreamer3> SwissPhoenix: shfs
[06:03] <will> how do i run a script at gdm startup
[06:03] <Dreamer3> SwissPhoenix: mounting filesystems over SSH
[06:05] <will> or even, how do i autorun a command when x/gnome starts up?
[06:06] <Dreamer3> maybe it's not part of the stock kernel
[06:06] <SwissPhoenix> Dreamer3: it simulates a fs on the client site... life ftpfs... but it's by way nothing like nfs... e.g. it does not provide file locking
[06:06] <Dreamer3> there was a source package for buildling the module, so we'll see how it goes
[06:06] <LinuxJones> will, gnome-session-properties
[06:06] <manobes> will: in the Sessions part of the preferences menu, there is a tab for startup programs
[06:06] <Dreamer3> SwissPhoenix: good point, but don't need that now... :)
[06:07] <aankhra> Hi!
[06:07] <will> LinuxJones, manobes: thanks!
[06:07] <iMP> Ubuntu as Network Print-Server -> reality or fantstic ?
[06:08] <aankhra> where can i get more software for ubuntu?
[06:08] <srikat> LinuxJones: can you pls look at this --> http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=282918
[06:08] <SwissPhoenix> Dreamer3: I also wonder what happens if you do a "tail -n 1" on a 1GB file - will it transfer the whole 1GB? or is it able to seek on the remote file?
[06:08] <ficusplanet> aankhra, Go to ubuntuguide.org
[06:08] <SwissPhoenix> iMP: just use cups...
[06:09] <aankhra> ficusplanet: thanks, i look
[06:09] <will> okay i have this problem in ubuntu using the build in sound on a 815 chipset, all sound plays extremely fast
[06:10] <SwissPhoenix> and could someone please tell me for what reason the web front end in cups has been disabled?
[06:10] <iMP> SwissPhoenix: troubles ... installed LaserJet 5L, how connect others workstations to print ? cannot print over cups ... no result :(
[06:10] <Pointwood> are most people using the extra repositories too? I would like to get Firefox 1.0 and more but would like to know that I can be resonable sure of not breaking my system
[06:10] <quentin> Hello, I would like to know how I can setup dhclient so that it sets ubuntu's ntp server through dhcp ( my dhcp server is broadcasting an ntp-server ip )
[06:11] <LinuxJones> srikat, you can do that in partition magic
[06:11] <missmarple> ok i solved my problem on my own .. so cu guys ;-)
[06:11] <scizzo> Pointwood: maybe try the backports?
[06:11] <SwissPhoenix> iMP: well - your server has to listen on all interfaces (not just localhost) and you have to configure your client to Poll the server... maybe you also need some acl change (haven't done this in a while)
[06:11] <iMP> SwissPhoenix, try to set path ipp://<host>/printers/lasejet-5l/
[06:12] <srikat> LinuxJones: just wanted to make sure it doesn't mess up the boot loader of windows xp in the D partition
[06:12] <Anubis> my it quiet
[06:12] <Pointwood> scizzo: will try that
[06:12] <SwissPhoenix> iMP, is your cups actually listening there? (http://<host>:631/)
[06:12] <iMP> SwissPhoenix, hm ... try to change, thx ;)
[06:12] <Anubis> helllooooo
[06:13] <iMP> SwissPhoenix, yep
[06:13] <bumperland> what do I have to do to get the transparent windows in gnon
[06:14] <bumperland> gnone
[06:14] <spiral> alu
[06:14] <spiral> hi sorry
[06:14] <manobes> bumperland: For what application?
[06:14] <bumperland> the desktop
[06:15] <[PoVal] Dutchy> is there a big difference between linux-image-386 and linux-image-k7 ? i installed the -k7 but with this dist-upgrade it installed a newer version of with -386 again
[06:15] <will> i have this problem in ubuntu using the build in sound on a 815 chipset, all sound plays extremely fast
[06:16] <iMP> iMP, :)
[06:16] <manobes> bumperland: You need Hoary to do that I think.  The X server in Warty doesn't support transparancy.
[06:16] <Xappe> Dutchy, it upgrades kernel because you have it installed
[06:16] <Pointwood> I think I got a new kernel when I updated recently - that will automatically update next time I reboot, right?
[06:16] <ficusplanet> right
[06:16] <Pointwood> cool
[06:17] <SwissPhoenix> manobes: Even if you would have Hoary, the WM needs to support it and Gnome IMHO does not...
[06:17] <Pointwood> <-- still very much a n00b, but like it so far :)
[06:17] <SwissPhoenix> GNOME Metacity :)
[06:17] <lucien> Hmm.
[06:17] <[PoVal] Dutchy> it didnt upgrade the -k7 i have installed, i think
[06:17] <lucien> Okay, does someone care to help me with an easy one. For the more adjusted user ?
[06:18] <lucien> I want to know how to change the appearance of my mouse cursor back to the Ubuntu Warty look. Because it sucks in Hoary.
[06:19] <ficusplanet> lucien, Install "gcursor" with synaptic.  It will let you choose cursor themes.
[06:19] <bumperland> should i take a shot with hoary ?
[06:19] <Pointwood> don't shot hoary!
[06:20] <iMP> Need links or advices about configure Ubuntu as LAN print-server ...
[06:20] <Pointwood> oh...you said 'with'...nm! :p
[06:20] <unperson> Suggestions for a good editor for writing code other than vi/vim and emacs/Xemacs?
[06:21] <bumperland> :-)
[06:21] <cafa> Hi all.
[06:21] <[PoVal] Dutchy> nano, gedit :p
[06:21] <unperson> gedit seems to lack some nice features like intellegent tabbing.
[06:21] <cafa> what is needed in the kernel for usb devices to automount?
[06:21] <[PoVal] Dutchy> true
[06:22] <unperson> [PoVal] Dutchy And nano...lacks a lot of things.  Fine for editing a text file, not good for writing code.
[06:22] <[PoVal] Dutchy> ^_^
[06:22] <unperson> I've used nedit in the past, which is probably the defualt choice I'd go back to, but I thought there might be other good choices.
[06:23] <nosilver4u> i'm getting all sorts of weird display issues with the fglrx drivers, any ideas?
[06:24] <redrum> i had problems with the nvidia drivers on my laptop.  had to upgrade to hoary, then to an apt-get update, apt-get upgrade... it's fine now
[06:24] <tarquin> hi. stupid question, but I keep reading about xmms on the forums... is it in the basic installation and if so, where?
[06:24] <cafa> nobody knows?
[06:25] <redrum> i don't think xmms is included by default.  I just installed it
[06:25] <tarquin> ah.
[06:25] <redrum> i did 'apt-get xmms'.  i have it now
[06:25] <tarquin> is there stuff on the CD that's not installed by default?
[06:25] <tarquin> don';t have a net connection :(
[06:26] <Xappe> he says in an irc channel
[06:26] <tarquin> ... using windows
[06:26] <nosilver4u> yeah, there's quite a bit actually, if i remember correct
[06:26] <scizzo> tarquin: do you really think..._everything_ is included in the CDs?
[06:26] <nosilver4u> redrum: i'm using hoary right now, and they just release the fglrx drivers for xorg
[06:27] <Mixut> hello!
[06:27] <tarquin> no... but I was just wondering whether there might be some other stuff there
[06:28] <redrum> does anyone know how to set the default output device for sound?
[06:28] <bumperland> where can I download hoary
[06:29] <unperson> Someone more knowledgable can probably advise tarquin how to search for a package on the CD using apt-cache search.
[06:30] <bborkk> Does anyone use matplotlib, the Matlab-like plotting module for use with Python and numarray?
[06:31] <tarquin> using apt-cache search. << never mind :) I'm just trying it out
[06:31] <Mixut> i'm a bit noob on ubuntu, can anyone tell me how can i access readonly files, or where i can find a solution for that problem??i didn't find an answer from ubuntulinux.org
[06:31] <bborkk> Mixut: Do you want to write them?
[06:32] <Mixut> no i need access to sources.list file
[06:32] <tarquin> where should we file bugs for things like audio CDs etc -- ubuntu or gnome or ... ?
[06:32] <bborkk> Mixut: Type "man chmod" in a terminal window.
[06:32] <redrum> when you open the files for editing, do it using sudo...
[06:32] <bborkk> Mixut: Ah, in that case, you need to use sudo.
[06:32] <bborkk> sudo emacs /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:33] <Mixut> bborkk: thank you very much;)
[06:33] <bborkk> no problem
[06:33] <Schaap> how do i partition and format my new HD ?
[06:34] <Schaap> erm, is there a  tutorial from partitiong all the way to mounting a new HD ?
[06:35] <bborkk> Okay, I'm sick of waiting for other people to update packages.  Where's a good resource for learning how to create a Debian package?
[06:35] <tkrin> hello all.  Has anyone successfully installed Ubuntu on recently released 17" powerbook G4?  I will be getting one soon and am interested in running linux on it.
[06:35] <tarquin> I've just got it running on a Tibook
[06:35] <toubsu> is yum the update system in ubuntu?
[06:36] <manobes> toubsu: no, it's apt-get
[06:36] <housetier> toubsu, I'd say its apt-get, I think yum is for redhat based distros
[06:36] <tkrin> tarek_, how was the experience?
[06:36] <toubsu> ok
[06:36] <tkrin> tarquin I mean. :-/
[06:37] <tarquin> installation went fine. a few problems with the default stuff though -- eg playing CDs
[06:37] <tkrin> you have wireless built in, if so did that work out of the box?
[06:37] <tarquin> see for example: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=11173&highlight=audio
[06:38] <tarquin> no, I don't have wifi -- but ubuntu's installed a wifi applet in the top panel anyway!
[06:38] <tkrin> heh :)
[06:38] <mpq> I have a similar problem
[06:38] <tarquin> oh and the brightness and volume buttons work
[06:38] <mpq> my wireless isn't enabled in ubuntu
[06:38] <tarquin> though they don't give visual feedback like on OS X
[06:38] <tarquin> I meant my PB doesn't have wireless installed -- too old
[06:39] <tkrin> tarquin, Cool.
[06:39] <[PoVal] Dutchy> weird... nvidia-glx requires linux-image-386
[06:39] <tkrin> tarquin, thanks. :)
[06:40] <AcidMaX> what sources do I need to add to install the flash player, xmms etc on hoary
[06:40] <mpq> I need help enabling my wireless card to work in ubuntu
[06:40] <toubsu> is ubuntu based on debian?
[06:40] <AcidMaX> toubsu, yes.
[06:40] <tarquin> oh and right-clicking is a pain unless you have a mouse
[06:40] <tarquin> can't do CTRL-click
[06:41] <jcoxon77> mpq: what is your wireless card?
[06:41] <mpq> Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM94306 802.11g (rev 03)
[06:41] <tkrin> tarquin, I almost always use an external mouse, plus I HATE touch pads.
[06:41] <mpq> keep forgetting that ctrl+v doesn't do anything
[06:42] <jcoxon77> mpq, you'll probably need ndiswrapper
[06:42] <Burn`> does somebody know a good tutorial for dvdrip & ubuntu???
[06:42] <jcoxon77> mpq, i use to have one and once set up it worked great
[06:42] <Mixut> hmm...helpless me here again.I want to install java1.5.I followed instructions on https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java15 but when i try to execute these two commands, terminal says:bash: fg: %: no such job :(what should i do now??
[06:42] <Schaap> erm, is there a  tutorial from partitiong all the way to mounting a new HD ?
[06:43] <floater> I have a hoary install, is there a guide where I can add extra repositories? the warty help doesn't match all in all
[06:43] <AcidMaX> floater, I was just asking the same thing :)
[06:43] <AcidMaX> no response yet.
[06:43] <floater> alright
[06:44] <LinuxJones> floater, did you add the universe/multiverse repo's while in Warty ?
[06:44] <floater> I haven't used warty
[06:44] <floater> I haven't even used linux but less than a week
[06:45] <LinuxJones> floater, you installed form disk tho
[06:45] <floater> form disk?
[06:46] <LinuxJones> floater, sorry from the Warty disc then you upgraded ?
[06:46] <floater> I thought of installing all that multimedia support with that ubuntuguide.org help
[06:46] <manobes> floater: edit /etc/apt/sources.list whenever the Warty help says "warty" substitute "hoary".
[06:46] <floater> no, I burned a hoary iso
[06:47] <mpq> erm... I don't understand the install directions for ndiswrapper
[06:48] <flosch> hi
[06:48] <jcoxon77> mpq, okay ba
[06:48] <jcoxon77> mpq, okay basically are you using warty or hoary?
[06:48] <mpq> warty
[06:48] <Anubis> sooo firefox is usuless in hoary?
[06:48] <LinuxJones> floater, gedit /etc/apt/sources.lst  and make the line look like >> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary main restricted universe
[06:48] <Anubis> keeps crashing
[06:48] <Anubis> ssl sites crash it
[06:48] <jcoxon77> mpq, ndiswrapper takes the windows driver and makes it work on linux
[06:49] <Anubis> links to video
[06:49] <LinuxJones> floater, sorry sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.lst
[06:49] <mpq> I got that much
[06:49] <manobes> Anubis: It's not a stable release...
[06:49] <mpq> but how do I install it?
[06:49] <floater> ok, just checking what lines I have to change from http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[06:49] <jcoxon77> mpq, have you looked at https://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/howto/ndiswrapper
[06:50] <floater> I don't see why there's so much to replace since it's almost fully identical
[06:50] <floater> 1st paragraph etc
[06:50] <LinuxJones> floater, you need to add universe multivers to the end of the line
[06:50] <LinuxJones> floater, god my typing :(
[06:50] <manobes> floater: just change "warty" to "hoary"
[06:51] <surrounder> yup, keep up the good work to all ubuntu-devs, this distro is a little jewel :)
[06:51] <LinuxJones> manobes, he is running hoary and wants to add more repositories
[06:51] <dejavu> hi ... is this the official  UBUNTU linux  channel ?
[06:51] <LinuxJones> dejavu, yeah
[06:52] <HaloGray> official unofficial :)
[06:52] <Anubis> manobes, should I compile firefox myself?
[06:52] <dejavu> good ..
[06:52] <dejavu> ppl i got a question ..
[06:53] <floater> in my hoarys source.list there is 2x a paragraph ending with universe, and in warty help there is 1x universe and 1x multiverse + there is those 3+1 additional lines in end
[06:53] <dejavu> i just installed this distro after hearing abt it .. and the thing is that it never asked me for a ROOT PASSWD .
[06:53] <MeMa|Sorcerer> hiho
[06:53] <HaloGray> root is disabled in ubuntu for security reasons
[06:53] <floater> I don't know if I should replace that one universe paragraph with multiverse since I don't know what they are referring to.. I don't even really know what I am doing
[06:53] <HaloGray> if you want to do something with root permissions type sudo before your command
[06:54] <HaloGray> and the password it asks for will be the one for your account
[06:54] <dejavu> it never asked me what should my Root Passwd should be  during installation and after it ... im just using a normal user without eevn knowing what my RPwd is !
[06:54] <HaloGray> there is no root password
[06:54] <mpq> I can't find the driver on the website
[06:54] <manobes> floater: universe and multiverse are two different repositories.  You can have both enabled.
[06:54] <njan> dejavu, sudo comamndyouwanttoexecuteasroot
[06:54] <njan> dejavu, or if you're lazy, sudo /bin/bash
[06:54] <jcoxon77> mpq, do you have internet access from your ubuntu box?
[06:54] <floater> can I just add extra there ..I think that wouldn't do any harm
[06:54] <mpq> yes
[06:54] <njan> dejavu, then enter *your* password
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[06:55] <mpq> ow, did anyone get the license plate number on that?
[06:55] <LinuxJones> what moron
[06:55] <neighborlee> lol
[06:55] <lilo> that's silly
[06:55] <njan> mpq, yeah, 'w4nk3r'
[06:55] <Menaherann> and is a random username so is not like you could ban him...asshole
[06:56] <mpq> lol
[06:56] <mpq> okay, I'm on a wired connection right now
[06:56] <redrum_> that was a good one
[06:56] <mpq> until I can set up the wireless card
[06:56] <jcoxon77> mpg, use synaptic to get ndiswrapper
[06:56] <toubsu> was what he was saying true?
[06:56] <njan> Menaherann, it was a botnet, there isn't much an op would've been able to do aside moderating the channel and kicking the bots / making the channel invite only and voicing people who aren't bots.
[06:56] <jcoxon77> mpg, it doesn't seem to be avaliable on hoary but i'm quite sure that it is on hoary
[06:56] <AcidMaX> always amazes me what some people do with their free time.
[06:56] <apokryphos> Hi everyone
[06:57] <njan> AcidMaX, indeed.
[06:57] <mpq> I'm not using hoary
[06:57] <jcoxon77> mpq, i mean warty sorry
[06:57] <apokryphos> Just realised that Ubuntu isn't giving me surround sound. What can I do to change that?
[06:57] <Menaherann> which requeres even MORE effort than the ones you guys are putting now
[06:57] <Menaherann> all rgithy then
[06:57] <redrum_> why can't i install 'mplayer' on hoary?
[06:57] <apokryphos> redrum_: You can. Apt for it.
[06:57] <[PoVal] Dutchy> well, coding irc bots would be quite fun :D
[06:57] <mpq> I was trying to download the driver for the card but I can't find it on broadcom's website
[06:58] <HaloGray> I have mplayer working on hoary
[06:58] <floater> hey what those # means in the begin of source.list.... on my hoarys list I have them before every line and in ubuntuguide they aren't there
[06:58] <HaloGray> what's the issue?
[06:58] <floater> I guess they are useless, so it doesn't matter?
[06:58] <surrounder> floater: comment out
[06:58] <HaloGray> mpq I was looking too... I can't seem to find any wireless drivers on that site
[06:58] <HaloGray> I find plenty of ethernet drivers...
[06:58] <dejavu> what if i want to use base-config .... i need the root passwd for that which i dont have
[06:58] <redrum_> E: Broken packages
[06:58] <redrum_> "
[06:58] <Menaherann> well, ok guys.... this is my problem:
[06:58] <mpq> is there a shortcut for copying-pasting?
[06:59] <mpq> ctrl+v doesn't work
[06:59] <redrum_> Ctrl+Shift+C
[06:59] <redrum_> Ctrl+Shift+V
[06:59] <mpq> ok
[06:59] <Menaherann> my laptop has warty on it... it promts me to the usernae/password nicely... it look good and everithing but then after theat it hangs....
[06:59] <jcoxon77> mpq, i've got to go but i'm sure someone else will continue to help you
[07:00] <Menaherann> no matter which mode i log on
[07:00] <bborkk> I'd like to install python-matplotlib, which I know works with Python 2.3.  I've upgraded to Python 2.4, but still have Python 2.3 installed.
[07:00] <bborkk> apt-get says "python-matplotlib: Depends: python (< 2.4) but 2.4-0ubuntu4 is to be installed"
[07:00] <bborkk> Is it kosher to force installation by "apt-get install python-matplotlib+"?
[07:01] <apokryphos> Sound system configuration.... anyone? Any help?
[07:01] <bborkk> apokryphos: What's up?
[07:01] <apokryphos> bborkk: Ubuntu doesn't seem to want to play surround sound. Not sure what I should do. Plays only through two speakers, and doesn't seem to detect the sub.
[07:01] <dejavu> can ANYONE help me with this RootPassword  issue !??
[07:02] <apokryphos> dejavu: what's the issue?
[07:02] <dejavu> i dont know whats my root paswd !
[07:02] <dejavu> it never asked me one
[07:02] <apokryphos> Ubuntu doesn't set one automatically
[07:02] <apokryphos> it uses the sudo command
[07:02] <hawkman> Can anyone here tell me how I can get firefox to recognize Mouse button 4 as back and 5 as forward ?  currently it just want to autoscroll on MB4
[07:02] <HaloGray> dejavu you use the sudo command
[07:02] <bborkk> apokryphos: Don't you normally have to go through a receiver to get surround sound?
[07:02] <HaloGray> and the password is the same one for your user account
[07:02] <dejavu> what is the sudo command ..
[07:03] <bborkk> dejavu: man sudo
[07:03] <dejavu> im completely new to ubunto and pretyy much to linux
[07:03] <floater> hmm I tried to install flash plug-in but I get "couldn't find package flashplayer-mozilla
[07:03] <HaloGray> type sudo base-config in the terminal to use base-config
[07:03] <apokryphos> bborkk: I don't know, I never have, I don't think; Mandrake and Fedora detected it automatically, as I recall.
[07:03] <floater> it read package list and dependancy tree
[07:03] <HaloGray> it will prompt for a pass
[07:03] <LinuxJones> dejavu, it's like su only better
[07:03] <HaloGray> and you give it the user
[07:03] <AcidMaX> dejavu, sudo allows you to access root from your own username
[07:03] <bborkk> dejavu: You can find out more about sudo by typing "man sudo" in a terminal window and then pressing enter.
[07:03] <AcidMaX> if you type "sudo su" then enter your password for your username you will be root.
[07:04] <dejavu> sounds goot ..
[07:04] <HaloGray> floater: your mozilla-firefox folder should be .mozilla in your user's folder
[07:04] <dejavu> lemme give it a try !
[07:04] <bborkk> apokryphos: Hm.  I really don't know.  Sorry.
[07:04] <floater> in x-windows you can just open a "root terminal" aswell under applications-system tools
[07:04] <apokryphos> bborkk: Ok, no worries.
[07:04] <bborkk> Anyone know how to force installation of a package?
[07:04] <HaloGray> if you can't get the installer to work, just copy the flashplayer.xpt into the plugins folder inside /home/user/.mozilla/
[07:04] <lilo> hmmm
[07:05] <lilo> #ubuntu should have join throttling
[07:05] <lilo> it'd help in these situations
[07:05] <floater> HaloGray: alrightz, what command shall I use to download that xpt file?
[07:05] <lilo> like, pretty much eliminate the clonebot attack
[07:05] <HaloGray> you can download the flashplayer file at www.macromedia.com
[07:05] <apokryphos> bborkk: in apt? Have you checked the man file..? I think you can do an "ignore missing"
[07:05] <HaloGray> it should auto-detect you're running linux
[07:06] <floater> oki
[07:06] <HaloGray> it will download in a bz file I think, which is the same as a windows zip file
[07:06] <floater> yeuh, then I just unzip it with x-windows or in console
[07:06] <HaloGray> you can just use the xwindows unziper
[07:06] <HaloGray> right
[07:06] <redrum_> apokryphos: I can't find within the link you sent me a solution to my problem
[07:07] <bborkk> apokryphos: I'm reading it now.  I don't think --ignore-missing will do it.
[07:08] <mpq> I have a problem
[07:08] <apokryphos> redrum_: It really is.
[07:08] <mpq> I'm trying to import my music
[07:08] <HaloGray> from what?
[07:08] <mpq> but sound juicer is using the wrong cddb information
[07:08] <apokryphos> redrum_: Have you added those repositories?
[07:08] <Firsti> Is there some way to check uptime in console?
[07:08] <mpq> I want it to use a different CDDB entry
[07:09] <LinuxJones> Firsti, uptime :D
[07:09] <neighborlee> anyone know why some things installled ( using synatpic) dont show up on  'menu' afterward ???
[07:09] <Firsti> Just Uptime?
[07:09] <LinuxJones> Firsti, yeah
[07:09] <Firsti> ok
[07:09] <norman> hmmh
[07:09] <norman> does anyone know how to burn an iso as a cd, not just file?
[07:09] <Firsti> DATA?
[07:10] <redrum_> what is the irc command to send a message just to one individual, without opening a new 'chat window'?
[07:10] <mpq> I'm not sure how to do that in linux
[07:10] <Firsti> /msg person msg
[07:10] <Firsti> redrum_
[07:10] <Firsti> redrum_:  /msg person msg
[07:10] <LinuxJones> norman, in Ubuntu ?
[07:10] <norman> ye
[07:10] <Xappe> or /query
[07:10] <redrum_> oh
[07:10] <LinuxJones> norman, open the file manager Nautilus and right click the .iso file
[07:11] <redrum_> what IS nautilus?
[07:11] <LinuxJones> norman, then write to disk
[07:11] <HaloGray> it's like explorer
[07:11] <apokryphos> redrum_: The Gnome file manager
[07:11] <mpq> sound juicer is using the wrong CCDB data, how do I get it to use a different one?
[07:11] <LinuxJones> redrum_, it's the Gnome file manager
[07:11] <mpq> *CDDB
[07:12] <norman> then it burns it as a bootable cd?
[07:12] <LinuxJones> norman, yep
[07:12] <bborkk> apokryphos: I don't see anything in the man page, but I might be missing something.
[07:12] <apokryphos> bborkk: There might not be one then; lemme take a quick look.
[07:13] <Schaap> Im gonna use hex colors to name my pc's
[07:13] <Schaap> Ubuntu is white
[07:13] <Schaap> Xp is black :D
[07:13] <surrounder> Schaap: beeeeeeeeeeh
[07:14] <Schaap> You cant have any warm wool or shoarma
[07:14] <surrounder> lol
[07:14] <mpq> great, now I need to re-enter all the artist names
[07:14] <apokryphos> bborkk: Hmm, can't see it. Can't really be of much help; might have more luck asking in #debian
[07:14] <Schaap> bitch :/
[07:14] <Schaap> my ear my ear!
[07:14] <mpq> how do I type stuff in other languages in ubuntu?
[07:15] <LinuxJones> mpq, you can select different languages from the GDM login screen
[07:15] <mpq> the what?
[07:15] <maximaus> LinuxJones: but you have to add them first right. ;)
[07:15] <LinuxJones> mpq, the graphical login screen where you enter your username & password
[07:15] <LinuxJones> maximaus, yeah
[07:15] <mpq> does that mean I have to log out to do it?
[07:16] <maximaus> mpq: I either login in Swedish or English and have a keyboard switch applet on the panel so I can type me umlauts. LOL
[07:16] <floater> hm HaloGray , there is probably something wrong with my repositories, I can't apt-get the acrobat reader either
[07:16] <mpq> I don't have another keyboard
[07:16] <mpq> in windows I had it set up that I could type in japanese without a japanese keyboard
[07:17] <mpq> I want to do something like that
[07:17] <apokryphos> mpq: You can definitely do it on Linux; I set it up on Fedora; not sure about Ubuntu though.
[07:27] <Pointwood> where do I find a mp3 plugin for rhythmbox?
[07:27] <Schaap> Where do i change that root@ubuntu:~ # ?
[07:27] <Schaap> ubuntu part
[07:28] <bluefoxicy> Pointwood: apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad
[07:28] <gustav_> apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad
[07:28] <lucien> Pointwood: Gstreamer0.8-mad.
[07:28] <Pointwood> thx
[07:30] <[PoVal] Dutchy> where do i get divx and other video codecs
[07:31] <floater> anyone know why my apt-get doesn't find any packages ?
[07:31] <floater> maybe I should check that /var/log/messages ?
[07:31] <apokryphos> floater: Have you done an apt-get update?
[07:32] <apokryphos> floater: and is your /etc/apt/sources.list file intact?
[07:32] <floater> certainly haven't... just going step by step on that ubuntuguide website
[07:32] <Pointwood> bluefoxicy / lucien: you know if there's an APE plugin too? I looked but couldn't seem to find any
[07:32] <lucien> [PoVal] Dutchy, There are some guides available on the websites, they address to restricted formats like Divx.
[07:32] <floater> or if apt-get update means updating repositories
[07:32] <apokryphos> floater: You probably need to do an apt-get update first, for it to populate the sources.
[07:32] <lucien> Hmm pointwood, I have no idea.
[07:32] <apokryphos> floater: it does
[07:33] <Suvroc> ams, i have a question
[07:33] <floater> well I did that, I have a # before every DEB and there weren't #'s before those debs on the guide website
[07:33] <floater> however the guide website was for warty
[07:33] <maximaus> floater, what apokryphos said and do try Xpdf for pdfs, it's really lightweight and renders *most* of them perfectly.
[07:33] <Suvroc> i have an usb joypad and usbhid and joydev modules loaded
[07:33] <Suvroc> the joypad is recognized as /dev/input/js0
[07:33] <bluefoxicy> monkey's audio :D
[07:33] <floater> ok, I would like to try an alternative pdf-viewer
[07:34] <bluefoxicy> Pointwood:  where the heck did you get monkey's audio files
[07:34] <Suvroc> but when i do cat /dev/input/js0 and push the buttons on the joypad nothing happens
[07:34] <Suvroc> any idea ?
[07:34] <apokryphos> floater: Are you using hoary?
[07:34] <floater> yea
[07:34] <bluefoxicy> flac >> ape (I get 50-60% on FLAC, 75-90% on MA)
[07:34] <apokryphos> floater: and have you changed your apt repositories?
[07:34] <floater> yea I changed them
[07:34] <floater> or I simply added few lines
[07:34] <Pointwood> bluefoxicy: by creating them ;)
[07:35] <jintxo> Suvroc, have you tried running jscal or jstest? I have a USB joypad and I have to load the "analog" module for it to work...
[07:35] <apokryphos> floater: One sec; I'll give you my sources.list.
[07:35] <Suvroc> noppe, i haven't
[07:35] <bluefoxicy> Pointwood: instead of flac?
[07:35] <floater> ok! thanks!
[07:35] <Pointwood> bluefoxicy: yes, before I learned about FLAC
[07:35] <floater> I am on screen, dcc won't work though
[07:35] <bluefoxicy> Pointwood:  ahh
[07:35] <jintxo> Suvroc, is it an analog joypad? maybe the analog module is not for you... try modprobing it and running jscal, for example
[07:35] <Pointwood> anyway, not that important
[07:36] <floater> do you want a website where to upload it ? hold on
[07:36] <apokryphos> floater: http://pastebin.com/239730
[07:36] <bluefoxicy> Pointwood:  I haven't seen ape stuff
[07:36] <floater> oohh oki
[07:36] <Suvroc> i don't know, it has an analog / digital switch thought
[07:36] <apokryphos> remove the php waffle, naturally
[07:36] <Pointwood> though APE is pretty much as free and open source as FLAC IIRC
[07:36] <apokryphos> floater: Once that's done, make sure your synaptic is closed, and do "apt-get update"
[07:37] <jintxo> mine does to (for selecting the little joystick or the pad) it's a logitech wingman rumblepad somethng something
[07:37] <jintxo> Suvroc, ^
[07:37] <apokryphos> might take some time; your sources should be populated after that.
[07:37] <sig_ubuntu> anyone know of a real good gui/code webpage editor for linux?
[07:37] <Pointwood> it would be nice though since Rhythmbox don't like files it don't know - it starts taking up 100% CPU time :(
[07:38] <apokryphos> sig_ubuntu: Quanta is pretty good.
[07:38] <apokryphos> others like Mozilla Composer
[07:38] <sig_ubuntu> apokryphos: ok I'll check it out thanks
[07:38] <sig_ubuntu> is quanta a kde package?
[07:38] <apokryphos> sig_ubuntu: Yes.
[07:39] <apokryphos> I use KDE for everything other than washing my dishes ;)
[07:39] <sig_ubuntu> I don't use kde
[07:39] <LinuxJones> sig_ubuntu, have you tried bluefish ?
[07:39] <sig_ubuntu> bluefish sucks imo
[07:39] <[PoVal] Dutchy> oh that explains >.< divx and stuff is patented
[07:39] <LinuxJones> heh
[07:39] <apokryphos> convert to KDE ;)
[07:39] <sig_ubuntu> bbiab
[07:39] <Xappe> sig_ubuntu, have u tried NVU?
[07:40] <sig_ubuntu> NVU ?
[07:40] <regeya> NVU is evil.
[07:40] <Xappe> mkay
[07:40] <sig_ubuntu> Xappe: you have a link?
[07:40] <regeya> at the very least run any NVU output through tidy.
[07:40] <Suvroc> jintxo , i'm installing joystick package, it asked me about creating some nodes on /dev for the joypad ? is  that necesary? i mean, now there is a node for it ( /dev/input/js0 9
[07:41] <regeya> I ended up doing as much manual labor as real work in NVU, when I eval'ed it
[07:41] <Xappe> sig_ubuntu, http://www.nvu.com/
[07:41] <sig_ubuntu> is it in apt repositories?
[07:42] <jintxo> Suvroc, well crap, I'm not sure. I don't hink it would do any harm anyways.
[07:42] <floater> apokryphos: I tried your updated source.list  .."couldn't stat source package list......" then it recommended to run "apt-get update" which I did, and then after succesful fetching it says"GPG error: http://apt.cerkinfo.be unstable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available:"
[07:42] <|QuaD-> sig_ubuntu: not in apt repos
[07:42] <sig_ubuntu> I see that
[07:42] <Xappe> sig_ubuntu, there is a guide for installation on the forum somewhere
[07:43] <|QuaD-> sig_ubuntu: its simple to install tho
[07:43] <|QuaD-> www.ubuntuguide.com has a tutorial
[07:43] <floater> gbg error 3 times apokryphos  .. on testing ,unstable and unstable lines
[07:43] <apokryphos> floater: Don't worry about that
[07:43] <sig_ubuntu> I don't think I'll try that
[07:43] <|QuaD-> sig_ubuntu: wwhy not?
[07:44] <|QuaD-> sig_ubuntu: did you read it, its INCREDIBLY easy
[07:44] <floater> I try download now some file with it and let's see
[07:44] <sig_ubuntu> have to leave for work later
[07:44] <apokryphos> floater: Just hasn't got the signatures for some of the repos, because of codecs divx mplayer etc.. stuff available from there
[07:44] <|QuaD-> sig_ubuntu: takes 4 minutes
[07:44] <|QuaD-> i am serious
[07:44] <sig_ubuntu> |QuaD-: it's not that I couldn't install it I just will stick with vim for php stuff
[07:44] <apokryphos> floater: yup, go for it
[07:44] <xiximkopp> hello. anybody knows how to setup the softvol plugin in alsa-1.0.8?
[07:44] <apokryphos> as long as the apt command has finished
[07:44] <|QuaD-> sig_ubuntu: haha... that works too
[07:44] <apokryphos> floater: make sure you tell it to "continue anyway", despite the signature issue
[07:45] <sig_ubuntu> Xappe: you said you use mozilla composer?
[07:45] <floater> It worked , great, just a bit careful with all this :P extra-noob-carefulness :)
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[07:45] <Firsti> Somebody have fun, wannabe hackers
[07:45] <chillywilly> ban please
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[07:46] <[PoVal] Dutchy> you cant ban these random bots
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[07:46] <chillywilly> K-line
[07:46] <hawkman> how does that spam bot get access to all those ip's...
[07:46] <LinuxJones> freenode can ban him
[07:46] <apokryphos> ARGH
[07:46] <apokryphos> twat
[07:46] <apokryphos> missed what you said floater, sorry
[07:46] <Hegge`> proxys
[07:46] <xiximkopp> anybody knows how to setup the softvol plugin in alsa-1.0.8?
[07:46] <sig_ubuntu> apokryphos: whats the command for mozilla composer
[07:46] <Hegge`> :P
[07:46] <zeedo> hawkman: they use a variety of methods, usually the same way viruses get them
[07:47] <apokryphos> sig_ubuntu: I don't think you can get it from apt; can get it from mozilla.org though
[07:47] <apokryphos> I don't think you'll like it, but have a go ;)
[07:48] <Geert> crap
[07:51] <john__> hello
[07:51] <john__> is this the place to ask for ubuntu help?
[07:51] <apokryphos> right here
[07:51] <john__> hi apokryphos... I can't figure out to get to my windows partition from here
[07:52] <john__> nothing is listed in /mnt
[07:52] <apokryphos> john__: see: http://ubuntuguide.org/
[07:52] <floater> you mounted it and all ?
[07:53] <floater> I have to make a permanent mount aswell ..soon :)
[07:53] <john__> not sure, floater
[07:53] <john__> looking for a way to get on my root account
[07:53] <floater> for a quick mounting is just that mount -t ntfs /dev/hd(number) /mnt/ntfs or /mnt/windows... the dir you created for it
[07:54] <floater> root is secured... you can open a root terminal or do that "sudo" thing
[07:54] <rapha> Hi all!
[07:54] <apokryphos> john__: There is no GUI on Ubuntu for Root, though you can set one up. No real need for it.
[07:54] <john__> oh
[07:54] <Hegge`> sudo root passwd
[07:54] <BiteMeBill> john_: here is good information on mounting it.  http://ubuntuguide.org/#windows
[07:54] <Hegge`> su - root
[07:54] <Hegge`> donte...
[07:55] <Hegge`> done***....
[07:55] <john__> so i just open a terminal, mount the drive, then its accessable in my gui?
[07:55] <john__> thanks bitemebill
[07:55] <_4strO|Ult1m4t3> ++ all
[07:56] <BiteMeBill> john_: your welcome.
[07:57] <floater> heyy can I get that xpdf with apt-get aswell ?
[07:57] <BiteMeBill> floater: it's not installed by default?
[07:57] <apokryphos> You can, yes.
[07:57] <floater> humm.. oh, probably it is, I haven't tried to open any pdf file
[07:58] <floater> well, how about firefox pdf-support, there's a guide for acrobat plug for ff
[07:58] <BiteMeBill> I installed acrobat reader and then seen that I had two so I figured xpdf was installed by default.
[07:58] <floater> but does that xpdf support it aswell
[07:58] <floater> or is xpdf integrated into ff by default
[07:58] <zOap_win> hey, Can i download the ubuntu apt-get sources and burn on a cd rom? I have no net connection on the pc with ubuntu and need to update som apts before it works with wireless.. also, does ubuntu include ndiswrapper either in apt-get our install cdrom? I'm using wharty 4.10
[07:59] <floater> I'll try search some website with pdf...so I see
[07:59] <BiteMeBill> http://ubuntuguide.org/#acroread-mozilla
[07:59] <BiteMeBill> floater: would you like a humorous pdf to test with?
[07:59] <floater> hehe
[08:00] <xiximkopp> anybody tried the new softvol plugin in alsa?
[08:00] <floater> well I already did a google, but if you have a url, I'll check that instead :)
[08:00] <unperson> floater: In the default setup, xpdf opens as a seperate handler in ff, not as a plugin.
[08:00] <BiteMeBill> floater: it a story that someone posted in a forum that I found hallarious..  I made a pdf out of it to save.
[08:00] <floater> alright, that'll be fine for me
[08:01] <zOap_win> anyone knows? apt-get on cdrom?
[08:02] <floater> ohh.. BiteMeBill I can't receive dcc's
[08:02] <sig_ubuntu> how do I delete something via apt?
[08:02] <BiteMeBill> ok...  Give me a sec then.
[08:02] <|QuaD-> sig_ubuntu: apt-get remove
[08:03] <unperson> zOap_win: Hmmm...not sure exactly, but I know this can be done.
[08:04] <BiteMeBill> floater: http://vk0.dk/vkprivupload/revnehuw/warning.pdf
[08:04] <unperson> zOap_win: If it's just a few packages, you could just download the specific package files and save them.  Then you could install them individually with dpkg -i.
[08:04] <zOap_win> unperson, dpkg -i ? ok, i'll try that. thnx
[08:05] <unperson> zOap_win: That works with individual files.
[08:05] <Coily> how do i give a user root priveleges?
[08:05] <AcidMaX> they use sudo
[08:05] <unperson> zOap_win: So you do like dpkg -i somepackage.deb.
[08:05] <Coily> w/o using sudo
[08:05] <AcidMaX> i think its /etc/sudoers
[08:06] <BiteMeBill> AcidMaX: Don't they still need either root or admin privilages?
[08:06] <Coily> i dont believe so
[08:06] <echylo> I have problem, It has been a while since I booted Ubuntu, so I updated it, but when I rebooted it had overwrited my grub, now I don't remember how I configged it to boot XP, it's on /dev/hda3 someone can give me link?
[08:06] <Coily> though my question hasnt been answered yet
[08:07] <Coily> echylo isnt xp autodetected?
[08:07] <echylo> yes
[08:07] <johann> can anyone tell me how I apply a new kernel patch
[08:08] <echylo> but if you read my question :p
[08:08] <echylo> you see it overwrited my grub
[08:08] <echylo> and it didn't detect XP
[08:09] <echylo> and I just need the title, root etc for booting XP
[08:09] <AcidMaX> Coily, In most unix platforms (not sure about ubuntu) but you can add the user to the root group in /etc/groups
[08:09] <Coily> ill try
[08:09] <shock> hi all
[08:10] <Coily> echylo try asking in forums or mailing list
[08:10] <echylo> why you think I'm here
[08:10] <AcidMaX> echylo, just hang around and ask again in a bit. I  am sure someone will come along that can answer.
[08:10] <Coily> /j #ubuntu?
[08:10] <echylo> hmm
[08:11] <echylo> nvm
[08:11] <echylo> found entry in ubuntuguid
[08:12] <floater> BiteMeBill heheh, gotta stay far from that thing :)
[08:13] <BiteMeBill> floater: You read it that fast?  Took me over an hour I was laughing so hard.
[08:13] <Coily> should group read "root:x:0:USERNAME"?
[08:13] <AcidMaX> Coily, yes I believe so, each username would be seperated by commas just like any other group.
[08:14] <floater> 3 pages , wasn't so long
[08:14] <AcidMaX> i dont understand why you are doing it though.
[08:14] <Coily> gotcha
[08:14] <AcidMaX> sudo does essentially the same thing.
[08:14] <floater> yeauuuu, hmm now back to installing things
[08:14] <Coily> wouldnt i have to use sudo though?
[08:14] <BiteMeBill> floater: Yea but can't see when laughing so hard that your crying.
[08:14] <AcidMaX> yes but that is quite simple.
[08:14] <AcidMaX> "sudo su"
[08:14] <AcidMaX> enter your pass and you are root.
[08:15] <BiteMeBill> floater: Maybe it just sounds too familiar to me.  LOL
[08:15] <Suvroc> back
[08:15] <dbt`veritas> I'm trying to install the nvidia drivers. I changed the x86free-4 config file. I go reboot(of course x doesn't work b/c the cfg is changed and i need to install the nvida drivers) but now I can't login to root. My root password doesn't seem to work and I can't change hte files back b/c  Ican't login to root. Any suggestions?
[08:15] <Suvroc> ems.. i still can't get my joypad to work
[08:16] <AcidMaX> dbt`veritas, did you try booting into single user mode?
[08:17] <dbt`veritas> i changed my inittab to runlevel 1
[08:17] <dbt`veritas> no i didn't
[08:17] <dbt`veritas> how do i do that?
[08:18] <dbt`veritas> the emergency boot from grub?
[08:18] <AcidMaX> dbt`veritas, here is something that might help
[08:18] <AcidMaX> http://ubuntuguide.org/#rescuemode
[08:18] <dbt`veritas> awesome, thanks
[08:19] <Pointwood> so, what would you guys recommend instead of rhythmbox?
[08:19] <lucien> Beep !
[08:20] <floater> heyy do I open gnome back from the console with command "gnome" ?
[08:20] <lucien> Beep-media-player, definately ! @ Pointwood .
[08:20] <floater> if I type ctrl-alt-backspace I am in full-console mode
[08:20] <lucien> definitely*
[08:20] <randabis> beep or xmms
[08:20] <BiteMeBill> floater: isn't it startx?
[08:20] <randabis> amarok is decent too
[08:21] <floater> ohh, thanks :P
[08:21] <BiteMeBill> floater: I'm just guessing.
[08:21] <Pointwood> thx
[08:21] <lucien> That was hilarious.
[08:21] <lucien> I actually pressed ctrl-alt-backspace. Why did I do that ?
[08:21] <Coily> apparantly being root still doesnt allow for the creation of files/folders in nautilus
[08:22] <lucien> Yes, it does.
[08:22] <floater> lucien, so how did you come back? :D
[08:22] <floater> startx ?
[08:22] <Coily> then ive done something wrong
[08:22] <lucien> No, it restarted gnome.
[08:22] <randabis> floater, if gdm is running, then it will start back up
[08:22] <Pointwood> I tried Juk, but got no sound from that
[08:22] <lucien> Just logged in.
[08:22] <randabis> it restarted gdm, not gnome
[08:22] <floater> gdm hmm
[08:22] <lucien> Coily: sudo nautilus ?
[08:22] <floater> what's gdm and how can I run it
[08:23] <Coily> whaddya know
[08:23] <randabis> gdm is gnome's display manager. It provides you with a graphical login screen
[08:23] <floater> ok
[08:23] <randabis> if you're using ubuntu you should already haave it running
[08:23] <Coily> is there anyway to not have to use sudo for nautilus?
[08:23] <floater> well I tried ctrl+alt+backspace but it didn't boot back to login screen, I just had the console login
[08:24] <PPC_Guy> hello all. is there a specific channel for the ppc port? Or is this the right one?
[08:24] <randabis> floater, are you running warty or hoary?
[08:24] <floater> ho ary
[08:24] <randabis> that's why
[08:24] <floater> alrighty
[08:24] <randabis> for some reason gdm doesn't start back up in hoary
[08:24] <rapha> Hey, how am I supposed to add/remove network interfaces in the latest Hoary? Where's the button gone?
[08:24] <randabis> you can start it back up manually though
[08:24] <floater> how to run gdm from console
[08:25] <randabis> sudo gdm
[08:25] <floater> i'll try.. brb
[08:26] <BiteMeBill> Everytime I ctrl+Alt+backspace it just reboots gnome to the splash screen.  How did he get it to boot him into just terminal?
[08:27] <randabis> BiteMeBill, it's like that in hoary
[08:27] <BiteMeBill> randabis: Oh ok.
[08:27] <BiteMeBill> Thanks
[08:27] <randabis> warty just restarts gdm
[08:27] <floater> alright... it said gdm already running!
[08:27] <zul> BiteMeBill, alt-fn
[08:27] <randabis> well you could sudo killall gdm
[08:27] <floater> then I typed startx and it booted back to this gnome or windowed or x-windows mode
[08:28] <floater> without going to login screen
[08:28] <floater> I had to login in console first though
[08:28] <floater> well at least works that way... good to know things
[08:28] <Menaherann> hey gys... my laptop doesn't move from the login screen after i input, caN ANYONE HELP WITH THAT ONe?
[08:28] <randabis> CTRL ALT F1-F6 will give you a console also without killing your x session
[08:29] <BiteMeBill> Did lucien try it again?
[08:29] <floater> yeauh.... just needed that "rebooting of gnome" to update some installations so I was curiouz
[08:29] <randabis> dunno
[08:29] <floater> hehe
[08:29] <Lech> I got problem during installation. Instalator does not find my CDROM drivers, I got DVD/CDR combo...
[08:29] <BiteMeBill> LOL
[08:30] <Lech> and i have no drivers for that
[08:30] <Menaherann> no clue here
[08:30] <surrounder> uugmmm
[08:30] <surrounder> where did the xorg.conf go in hoary ? :-/
[08:30] <BiteMeBill> clueless here too
[08:30] <randabis> dunno, you could maybe try using the Array 4 CD instead of the Warty cd
[08:31] <surrounder> or XF86Confi....
[08:31] <randabis> it should be /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:31] <surrounder> hmm it isn't...
[08:31] <john__> i have a java prog i want to install... do i just do "java -jar program.jar" ??
[08:31] <randabis> then you might still be running xfree
[08:31] <john__> this is a fresh ubuntu install
[08:32] <shock> man i love ubuntu!
[08:32] <surrounder> randabis: well...can't find /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 either...
[08:32] <surrounder> but I _am_ in X
[08:32] <randabis> you'll need the java runtime environment
[08:32] <shock> i just earned 50 easy euro by installing ubuntu for someone :D
[08:32] <randabis> that is very strange
[08:32] <Menaherann> ok.... does anybody have any clue of what going on inside this laptoop?
[08:32] <shock> :happymode:
[08:32] <surrounder> lol @ shock
[08:32] <randabis> Menaherann, no :/
[08:32] <surrounder> shock: lucky dude ;)
[08:32] <rapha> shock: I'm still doing it for free here :)
[08:32] <BiteMeBill> shock: you should feel guilty.
[08:33] <Lech> rapha, could you help me?
[08:33] <shock> me too - I do it for friends free of charge
[08:33] <shock> but companies trying to save money by hiring student for this....
[08:33] <john__> thanks
[08:33] <Menaherann> hmm, did you read my problem, though?
[08:33] <shock> I would have done it for free.... deleting windows is such a pleasure
[08:33] <randabis> yes
[08:33] <randabis> your laptop freezes after trying to logon
 <-- try logging in in console?
[08:34] <Menaherann> well the cursor moves vry well it just on top of a blck screen
[08:34] <Menaherann> how????????????????
[08:34] <Coily> well i added myself to root in group, but i still have to sudo su/type my user password to open programs
[08:34] <Xappe> anyone here that uses cvscedega?
[08:34] <BiteMeBill> Menaherann: hold on let me find an artical that was posted to day someone said something about that.
[08:34] <rapha> Lech: Maybe; what is your problem?
[08:34] <shock> just do alt+ctrl+f2 when the login screen is there
[08:34] <Menaherann> thank you biteme bill (funny name)
[08:34] <shock> then login
[08:35] <shock> shutdown gdm
[08:35] <Menaherann> type then shutdown gdm?
[08:35] <shock> jo
[08:35] <shock> no
[08:35] <shock> nonono
[08:35] <Lech> Rapha: at installation Unbuntu does not find my cdrom drive (i got combo DVD/CDR on IDE) i mean it boot CD, but later it writes me that it have no drivers for that
[08:35] <shock> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[08:35] <randabis> you might be having a problem with ACPI
[08:35] <Menaherann> lett's try that shock
[08:36] <rapha> Hmm
[08:36] <mpq> what's a good music player for linux?
[08:36] <Coily> is there a way to avoid having to sudo su/typing user password to use certain apps?
[08:36] <BiteMeBill> Menaherann: scroll down to the tweaking sections and see if this is the same as you.  http://osnews.com/story.php?news_id=9650
[08:36] <Shark24> can anybody help me to mout windowsxp partition? i can't reach it . /mnt folder is emty  :(
[08:36] <randabis> that was for Menaherann...in which case you would need to tell grub not to use acpi
[08:36] <Lech> installer asks me for drivers on floppy or to choose manually
[08:36] <rapha> Lech: Sorry, haven't ever had that before. Try speaking to one of the developers directly, or try #debian.
[08:36] <Lech> ok, thanks anyway
[08:36] <randabis> Coily technially yes, but I'm not divulging that information for ethical reasons
[08:36] <Coily> mplayer is one of the best
[08:37] <Xappe> Shark24, have you created the mountpoints then?
[08:37] <bert_> howdy
[08:37] <BiteMeBill> Shark24: http://ubuntuguide.org/#windows  The steps are right there.
[08:37] <bert_> anyone else having problems installing bluefish (hoary)?
[08:37] <Shark24> yes
[08:37] <Menaherann> is prompting me with password
[08:37] <Lech> me Bert
[08:37] <shock> right mena
[08:37] <shock> type your password
[08:37] <albi1> shark24, try at console sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt -o umask=0000
[08:37] <Einzelganger> What is the correct place (on Ubuntu or Debian) to install dll's, different packages do it in different places: /usr/share/dotnet/mono/package or /usr/lib/mono/package or /usr/lib/package ?
[08:37] <randabis> uh
[08:38] <Menaherann> ok...
[08:38] <randabis> you might wanna make it a folder in mnt such as /mnt/winxp
[08:38] <Coily> will someone tell me
[08:38] <Menaherann> now is asking me to login again?
[08:38] <randabis> I make a folder in my home directory and set it as a mount point
[08:39] <randabis> Einzelganger, typically /usr/lib/package
[08:40] <dbt`veritas> AcidMax, thanks for the help...I
[08:40] <dbt`veritas> *Im back in linux
[08:41] <dbt`veritas> Though I don't have the drivers installed...
[08:41] <dbt`veritas> I got class in a few, I'll work on this later....cya all
[08:42] <Menaherann> ok shock what exactly was this?
[08:43] <CyberSnooP> Does anyone have a pointer to a "how to make qt beautiful" doc ?
[08:43] <rubenv> CyberSnooP: face it, QT is but-ugly ;)
[08:43] <rubenv> *ducks*
[08:43] <CarlK> whats the scoop on playing flash files?
[08:43] <CyberSnooP> yep faced that :)
[08:44] <CyberSnooP> but now I would like to see the good side of QT, or a skype / esvn / k3b implementation in gtk :)
 -- the gdm shutdown?
[08:44] <shock> or what?
[08:45] <AcidMaX> dbt`veritas, your welcome.
[08:45] <Menaherann> that and the fact that i have to log in agian mnext?
[08:46] <mestapheles> anyone know if hoary's kernel deep sleeps ibooks G4 wit ati radeon 9200 yet?
[08:48] <mpq> I don't know how to compile
[08:49] <CyberSnooP> apt-get install build-essential  and follow the INSTALL document for whatever you wish to compile
[08:54] <sri> so, I'm still having some issues with hoary and the x cursor
[08:54] <sri> when I do a drag or something I get a box with black and transparent lines
[08:55] <Coily> is myplayer-586 still available for install?
[08:55] <sri> I had to put a jimac cursor in order to get it show arrows anyways
[08:55] <sri> how do I get X to just use the built in defaults and not use any x cursors?
[09:00] <tolstoy> Guys: when you delete your xorg.conf or XFree86-4 config file, how do you get X to regenerate it based on your dpkg-reconfigure settings?
[09:01] <sri> interesting..x11 got updated
[09:01] <sri> perhaps that will fix my problems
[09:02] <bert_> Hi, does anyone know how i can clear my MUINE 'album library' ???
[09:03] <LinuxJones> tolstoy, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (Warty) or xserver-xorg (Hoary)
[09:03] <bert_> oh i've got it already. it was in the faq. sorry for bothering!
[09:05] <ren0> Hello I am having problems with usb sticks
[09:06] <ren0> They are no longer being automagically detected
[09:07] <tatterdemalionpr> hmmm anyone familiar with audacity
[09:07] <albi1> ren0, can you please plug in your memory stick and afterwords open a terminal type dmesg and report the last few lines?
[09:08] <tatterdemalionpr> every time i run it it'll give me > error init the audio layer
[09:09] <tatterdemalionpr> the audio i/o layer, my mistake
[09:10] <ren0> albi1, sda: assuming drive cache: write through
[09:10] <ren0>  /dev/scsi/host1/bus0/target0/lun0: p1
[09:10] <ren0> Attached scsi removable disk sda at scsi1, channel 0, id 0, lun 0
[09:10] <ren0> USB Mass Storage device found at 3
[09:11] <ren0> Hope that wasn't a flood...
[09:12] <ren0> lsusb Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0ea0:6828 Ours Technology, Inc. OTI-6828 Flash Disk
[09:13] <tatterdemalionpr> it all worked before, but then i played with the leveles in the mixer
[09:14] <tatterdemalionpr> i think i broke something =o)
[09:14] <Shambler> does ne1 know why the preview of video files in nautilus isn't working any longer? (newest hoary)
[09:14] <floater> hey, I installed the windows codecs and dvd-capability and now I can open my simpsons dvd from my dvd-drive, but it is lagging quite much and I didn't have anything in subtitles menu... with that totem player.... Should I maybe install that xine-ui or xmms to get it working better.. or fix some of my settings to make totem play it better?
[09:14] <albi1> reno, stay at the terminal ;-) try: sudo mount /dev/sda /mnt/
[09:16] <albi1> ren0, if you look  with nautilus, do you find your files in /mnt ?
[09:17] <albi1> floater, i recommend xine, i use it myself...
[09:17] <dbt`veritas> apt-get intall flashplayer-mozilla doesn't work. it says: E: Couldn't find package flashplayer-mozilla
[09:17] <dbt`veritas> NET SPLIT
[09:18] <dbt`veritas> apt-get intall flashplayer-mozilla doesn't work. it says: E: Couldn't find package flashplayer-mozilla
[09:18] <ren0> albi1, No not there
[09:18] <iapx8088> dbt`veritas, I'm surpried it doesn't say intall unknown action
[09:19] <floater> dbt`veritas: your source.list isn't up to date or wronly updated
[09:19] <albi1> ren0, next try ;-) sudo umount /mnt - is there a error message?
[09:19] <floater> probably
[09:20] <floater> dbt`veritas: do you use hoary or warty ?
[09:22] <Palle> Someone have connected via cable a nokia communicator with multisync ?!?
[09:23] <ren0> umount: /mnt: not mounted
[09:25] <albi1> ren0, it is a little bit of guessing, i know, but we should figure out where the error could be...so let's try another one:
[09:25] <albi1> sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[09:25] <albi1> ...and please report any output if there is one!
[09:26] <albi1> ;)
[09:27] <moZer> when's the next release due?
[09:28] <ren0> mount: you must specify the filesystem type...fat32 i think
[09:29] <ren0> sudo mount fat32 /dev/sda1 /mnt???
[09:30] <tatterdemalionpr> hello yall
[09:31] <floater> hi yaa
[09:31] <terraces> Hello. I've just upgraded to hoary and my gnome's top/bottom menubars have disappeared. How can I re-add them ?
[09:31] <floater> hey how can I "not-group" similar tabs in the taskbar ?
[09:31] <albi1> ren0, we are getting closer :) sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt
[09:31] <tatterdemalionpr> how might i go about finding what particular deb package contains libmp3lame.so?
[09:32] <tatterdemalionpr> assuming there is one
[09:32] <Bandit> hello boys and girls
[09:33] <[m0rph] > hi
[09:33] <moZer> tatterdemalionpr:  apt-cache search libmp3lame.so
[09:33] <ren0> sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt ...That worked
[09:33] <moZer> but i'd guess it's in "lame" :-)
[09:33] <umarmung> terraces, you have no panels at all?
[09:33] <ren0> How do I make that automagic again?
[09:34] <Xappe> ren0, edit your fstab
[09:34] <tatterdemalionpr> thanks brother
[09:34] <albi1> ren0, Great! You said, they where automagically recognised, but now, not anymore...did you do something special (upgrade, new hardware....)??
[09:35] <ren0> Just usual apt-get update followed by apt-get upgrade
[09:35] <tatterdemalionpr> and if i get no reply?
[09:35] <terraces> umarmung, no, not at all.
[09:35] <ren0> Its the hal thing that does this automagic?
[09:35] <albi1> ren0, the magic lies in the so called hotplug-system, which manages "hotplugable" devices as sticks, mice...
[09:36] <moZer> tatterdemalionpr:  try apt-cache search lame
[09:36] <albi1> ren0, do you have an usb-mouse?
[09:36] <moZer> you might need to add some sort of non-free apt source
[09:36] <moZer> can't help you anymore, don't even run ubuntu
[09:37] <ren0> I just put a second stick in it worked fine!?
[09:37] <umarmung> terraces, is gnome-panel still running?
[09:37] <FAST> is it possible to import thunderbird's email from windows to linux?
[09:37] <CyberSnooP> FAST, yep, you can even share the mailboxes between windows and linux
[09:37] <tatterdemalionpr> ok some stuff came up
[09:38] <tatterdemalionpr> but how do i find out which of them packages contains the correct library
[09:38] <michele> hi, just installed unbuntu on a Thinkpad 600E. Runs ok, but still a few problems. At boot the system tries to mount nfs partitions before starting the network. At least this is my impression. Can anybody confirm?
[09:38] <FAST> do you just copy the  /documents and settings/name/application data/thunderbird folder into linux directory?
[09:38] <albi1> ren0, hmmm strange...
[09:38] <floater> hey, I can't edit my mozpluggerrc in hoary now because ubuntuguide.org's help for warty differs
[09:38] <floater> how should I do it?
[09:38] <tatterdemalionpr> either libmp3lame.so.0.0.0 or libmp3lame.so
[09:38] <CyberSnooP> Well, just create a new profile, copy the old prefs.js and the mailbox directories and search and replace in your prefs.js
[09:38] <albi1> ren0, the second stick was detect automatically?
[09:38] <terraces> umarmung, humm no. got 'command not found', and 'broken package' on install. Is that the package that create menubars ?
[09:38] <umarmung> terraces, yes
[09:39] <terraces> ok. thanx I'll try to install it in a few days
[09:40] <ren0> yes as sdb
[09:40] <albi1> ren0, because if yes it could be that a module was missing, and because of mounting by had it was loaded...
[09:40] <albi1> ...but had my own strange adventures with hotplug already :-|
[09:41] <Coily> what does a woody version mean?
[09:41] <ren0> tried to drag and drop into it. "Error while copying into "/media/sdb". The destination disk is read-only."
[09:42] <albi1> ren0, has the stick a hardware-lock (a small switch on the side) to write-protect it?
[09:42] <Coily> anyone know anything about "woody" versions?
[09:43] <albi1> coily, woody is the codename for the now stable version of woody, which will be replaced by "sarge" soon, hoipefully
[09:43] <albi1> ..of debian of course, sorry
[09:43] <albi1> woody=stable version of debian
[09:44] <ren0> doesn't appear to. I'll have to umount and check both.
[09:44] <Coily> gotcha
[09:44] <Coily> why would synaptic ask me to update to a woody version?
[09:44] <johns_> exit
[09:45] <Coily> of a pkg
[09:45] <johns_> damn wrong window
[09:45] <Coily> im on ubuntu...
[09:46] <albi1> coily, did you install some other packages not in universe or multiverse or so...?
[09:46] <orion_114> hey guys where can I get Ubuntu source code ?
[09:46] <terraces> The -f option on apt-get install doensn't seem to force package install when unmet dependencies. Is there another option to do this ?
[09:47] <Coily> hm ya i guess i should pin my installs?
[09:47] <albi1> apt-get --help |more
[09:47] <ren0> albi1, sdb is automagically being detected. No hardware lock visible.
[09:48] <albi1> coily, maybe ;-) normally, when dpkg requests something it is right, even if one doesn't want it to... ;-)
[09:48] <bubbanga> question when using xmms how do you get it to be stereo instead of mono, i know my soundcard is stereo but it wants to playeveryting in mono :(
[09:48] <ren0> mount: block device /dev/sda1 is write-protected, mounting read-only
[09:49] <albi1> ren0, could it be possible that there is something wrong with the sticks...?
[09:50] <ren0> I am checking in my other laptop..
[09:50] <Coily> ill hope for the best :x
[09:50] <ren0> Plus they work in windows
[09:50] <albi1> ren0, hmmmm....
[09:51] <albi1> *scratching*
[09:52] <albi1> ren0, let's go back to square one: let's umount all sticks: closing all nautilus windows and tkae the terminal
[09:52] <ren0> Just plugged a usb mouse in. works great.
[09:53] <tatterdemalionpr> does locate need to like re cache ever
[09:54] <tatterdemalionpr> or is it doing a new search every time?
[09:54] <tatterdemalionpr> does it have a list file any where that needs to be refreashed
[09:55] <tatterdemalionpr> does anyone even know what im talking about
[09:55] <kent> has any one noticed that some updates in Hoary keeps stop the network? I upgraded just recently and I could not get it to work without a restart :(  Im not sure which package is messing it up though :(
[09:56] <ren0> In both computers i get the message mount: block device /dev/sda1 is write-protected, mounting read-onl
[09:57] <tatterdemalionpr> man computers are stupid!
[09:57] <ds> is the warty live CD supposed to bring up eth0?
[09:57] <apokryphos> argh
[09:58] <Coily> is there a linux plugin for embedded media player?
[09:58] <Bandit> that was a nasty split
[09:58] <shock> hrhr
[10:00] <Bandit> i am running hoary when it reboots now it doesnt not start x by itself anyone know how to set x to start auto
[10:00] <ren0> I am giving up. My girlfreind has distracted me with a glass of fine South African wine. Try again on the weekend.
[10:00] <shock> bandit: dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[10:00] <bubbanga> how do you get xmms to play in stereo i have it currently set to alsa output  and for some reason the volume slider doens't change the volume
[10:01] <shock> should do it
[10:01] <albi1> ren0, nice evening...then
[10:01] <ren0> Thanks albi1
[10:01] <Bandit> shock thankyou
[10:01] <shock> np
[10:03] <arj> i had some problems with user accounts
[10:03] <arj> somebody can help me?
[10:03] <shock> u did?
[10:03] <shock> whats the prob
[10:03] <arj> the problem is that i can't login!
[10:03] <arj> during installtion
[10:03] <arj> the installer asked me
[10:04] <arj> to choose a fullname for a user
[10:04] <arj> then put the username and password
[10:04] <arj> but when i completed installation
[10:04] <arj> and i wrote the username and password
[10:05] <arj> in the login gap
[10:05] <arj> it didn't do login
[10:10] <spiral> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[10:10] <spiral> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[10:11] <spiral> hmmm... is there a problem with the ftps ?
[10:11] <root> can anyone tell me how can I add 1152 and over refresh rates to ubuntu..I know my monitor supports but I can't see them in list
[10:12] <shock> anyone: what was the boot parameter for single user?
[10:12] <johns_> try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
[10:12] <TreadingSoftly> Hi folks, i'm trying to get beagle working with gsf-sharp in hoary. However, ./autogen.sh for gsf-sharp throws up a complaint about not having a high enough version of gtk-sharp. I pulled gtk-sharp off the mono cvs. If I make install gtk-sharp will it screw up my system or is that relatively safe? NB the autogen for gtk-sharp says it isn't included various "optional assemblies" e.g. gnome-sharp.dll glade-sharp.dll panelapplet-sharp.dll... etc. Doe
[10:12] <tritium> shock, single
[10:12] <root> thanks
[10:13] <shock> thx
[10:13] <johns_> and @root: are you _really_ on irc on you root account?
[10:13] <root> hahah yea...just going just goin
[10:13] <root> byee
[10:14] <johnnygeargrinde> I have a Dell laptop running Warty, I am having trouble with my touch pad, how can I alter it?
[10:15] <TreadingSoftly> johnnygeargrinde: what sort of trouble?
[10:15] <johnnygeargrinde> i.e. When I slide my finger across the pad it sometimes goes foward in pages and sometime goes back in pages
[10:16] <Coily> is there a defrag app installed with ubuntu
[10:16] <johns_> Coily: no need for it
[10:16] <johnnygeargrinde> I would like to change the sensitivity
[10:16] <johns_> try xset
[10:17] <Coily> whys that
[10:17] <TreadingSoftly> johnnygeargrinde: probably, the sensitivity can be changed with Preferences > Mouse
[10:17] <johnnygeargrinde> thank you
[10:17] <johns_> with that you can set the mouse sensitivity
[10:17] <Coily> er why no need for defrag
[10:17] <TreadingSoftly> johnnygeargrinde: that held true with my Thinkpad T40 anyhow... although I don't know how to configure more advanced touchpad functions
[10:17] <johns_> it's no fat32 coily
[10:18] <johnnygeargrinde> ok I will try it
[10:18] <shock> er
[10:18] <shock> question:
[10:18] <shock> single user mode
[10:18] <Coily> what prevents ext3 from getting fragmented
[10:18] <shock> root password for maintenance?
[10:18] <shock> O_o
[10:18] <shock> any hint?
[10:19] <johns_> Coily: why should a filesystem fragment?
[10:19] <tritium> shock, there is none
[10:19] <TreadingSoftly> shock: I believe you can set the root password by going into a root session with sudo -s -H then running passwd
[10:19] <tritium> ^^^ is correct
[10:19] <TreadingSoftly> shock: (seems to work for me)
[10:19] <shock> i have a root password
[10:19] <Coily> rather what about ext3 prevents frafmentation...
[10:19] <shock> its just that the login by arj wont work
[10:19] <eruin> anyone know who created gartoon?
[10:19] <TreadingSoftly> shock: arj?
[10:20] <bubbanga> can someone please help me with setting up volume in xmms please?
[10:20] <shock> hey in this channel
[10:20] <shock> ;)
[10:20] <shock> he's
[10:20] <darkx> A friend of mine was wondering if the AMD64 version of ubuntu could run 32 bit apps as well?
[10:20] <arj> me
[10:20] <shock> :)
[10:20] <darkx> (his wording not mine ^^)
[10:20] <TreadingSoftly> shock: i see
[10:20] <tritium> shock, you set it up, then
[10:20] <shock> so - any way around the maintenance?
[10:20] <bubbanga> for some reason the gnome slider will not change its volume only if i switch gnomes slider to master mono but in xmms i have it set to pcm what gives
[10:20] <Coily> johns_ rather what about ext3 prevents frafmentation...
[10:20] <jrydberg___> do I have to do anything special to upgrate from 4.1 to Hoary, except altering sources.list and do a dist-upgrade?
[10:20] <TreadingSoftly> shock: i, at least, am still confused on exactly what you're trying to do...
[10:20] <johns_> Coily: it's just smart in the way it allocates blocks 'n stuff
[10:21] <johns_> fat32 is a moron
[10:21] <johns_> ;)
[10:21] <shock> logon to single user to set the new password/user
[10:21] <TreadingSoftly> jyrdberg__: pray?
[10:21] <shock> as he is lacking a lice cd of any sort
[10:21] <TreadingSoftly> jyrdberg__: and it helps if your warty install is relatively fresh and untampered with
[10:21] <tatterdemalionpr> oh yeah!
[10:21] <tatterdemalionpr> it works
[10:22] <tatterdemalionpr> im gunna go celebrate, thanks guys!!
[10:22] <shock> wow - major x upgrades in hoary
[10:22] <shock> :)
[10:22] <jrydberg___> crap, GRUB can't handle my new disk!
[10:22] <TreadingSoftly> shock: do you mean you're trying to create another user account?
[10:22] <tritium> shock, you set a root password but forgot it?
[10:22] <Coily> imagine "_" as a file __________ one file gets deleted __ _______, how can smart allocation prevent that
[10:23] <shock> no! argh! I am not that weird to forget any root password!
[10:23] <tritium> shock, please explain then
[10:23] <shock> not even the one set @ campus 4 years ago :P
[10:23] <TreadingSoftly> shock: no problem, man, but i think we're still a bit confused here
[10:23] <shock> arj has forgotten his password/username he used to install the system
[10:23] <Coily> ubuntuguide.org has some methods
[10:24] <shock> now he's screwed
[10:24] <johns_> Coily: linux caches files before they get written to disk
[10:24] <TreadingSoftly> shock: ah... hmmm...
[10:24] <shock> and since i think he's a guy - being screwed is one of the last things he would want
[10:24] <tritium> shock, have him reboot into single user mode and reset the user's passwd
[10:24] <shock> thats what i was telling him to do
[10:24] <johns_> so when that cache is flushed, ext2 or whatever can figure out the best way to store everything
[10:24] <shock> but single user asks for a root password
[10:24] <keyshawn2> howdy. i have a quick question about nautilus. [yes, i did look in its help files about it] 
[10:25] <keyshawn2> how do i configure it so that it DOES NOT open up a new window every time I enter a new folder ?
[10:25] <fraggsta> Here's a question:  Can I install CVSCedega and have WINE (from the ubuntu packages) installed concurrently?
[10:25] <shock> ok - this is so stressfull I'm gonna take my beer out for a walk and a smoke on the balcony
[10:25] <shock> brb
[10:25] <fraggsta> I noticed the wineinstall script for CVSCedega said that I already had a version of WINE installed and that I should remove it first.
[10:25] <tritium> man, if that were the least of my stresses, I'd be a happy man
[10:26] <johns_> keyshawn2: edit>preferences>behaviour
[10:27] <G2> perl or python?
[10:27] <fraggsta> ruby ;)
[10:28] <LinuxJones> G2, Python :)
[10:28] <Xappe> fraggsta, shouldn't cedega be able to run regular programs as well as games?
[10:28] <G2> LinuxJones, Perl!!!
[10:28] <Xappe> installed the cvs yesterday
[10:29] <fraggsta> Xappe, no, there are many programs cedega does not run as well as WINE.  Cedega is good at DirectX and the rest of its code is rather old.  I have several programs that work in WINE, but not Cedega.
[10:29] <roal2000> Hi. i get a couple of MD5Sum mismatches when doing apt-get update under Hoary. Does anyone know about this?
[10:29] <Xappe> fraggsta, ok
[10:29] <Xappe> i only need the gamesupport since there is a linux version of dc++ nowadays
[10:30] <fraggsta> is there?  wow
[10:30] <Xappe> yes, installed it yesterday too...not 100% stable, but it's seems better than valknut...
[10:31] <randabis> roal2000, I'm getting the same md5sum mismatches
[10:31] <Xappe> *it
[10:31] <shock> re
[10:31] <shock> *njam @ beer*
[10:31] <fraggsta> where is it?  the DC++ site has a source link, is that it?
[10:32] <Xappe> fraggsta, w8 i'll fetch the url for you
[10:32] <arj> shock didn't work
[10:32] <Xappe> fraggsta, http://linuxdcpp.berlios.de/articles.php?um=index
[10:32] <Anubis> http://xfce-goodies.berlios.de/images/xfce4-weather-plugin.png
[10:32] <shock> i kno
[10:32] <Xappe> get the source by cvs and compile with scons
[10:32] <shock> :(
[10:32] <shock> enter root password
[10:32] <shock> :/
[10:32] <Anubis> how do I get that on my taskbar?
[10:33] <arj> there is NOT root password
[10:33] <shock> i know
[10:33] <shock> figured that out just after u left :(
[10:33] <shock> crap
[10:33] <tritium> arj, root account is disabled by default
[10:33] <roal2000> randabis: good to know that im not the only one
[10:33] <shock> u shure u dont have an ancient knoppix somewhere??
[10:33] <arj> I read this
[10:34] <arj> but what can i do then?
[10:34] <Xappe> well if you need the root account, just activate it
[10:34] <arj> i don't need a root account
[10:34] <arj> i need a VALID account
[10:34] <roal2000> randabis: has this ever happened to you before?
[10:34] <shock> yes
[10:34] <arj> it seem i've not created account at all
[10:34] <shock> u need the installation account
[10:34] <blah09> has anyone tried using a usb gamepad with linux?
[10:35] <fraggsta> Xappe, hey thanks - that's made my day :)
[10:35] <shock> any clue about if u misstyped the username?
[10:35] <shock> any variations tried?
[10:35] <Xappe> fraggsta: hehe, it made my day yesterday :)
[10:35] <arj> i'm sure
[10:35] <fraggsta> Xappe, for some reason I've never had much luck with dcgui..hopefully this will work better
[10:35] <arj> i've typed it right
[10:35] <Xappe> fraggsta, valknut has a horrible gui
[10:35] <sri> does anybody get this?
[10:36] <sri> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  MD5Sum mismatch
[10:36] <sri> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary/main/source/Sources.gz  MD5Sum mismatch
[10:36] <Bandit> anyone know if some of the repositories are down
[10:36] <sri> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz  MD5Sum mismatch
[10:36] <fraggsta> Xappe, is valknut the QT one?
[10:36] <tritium> sri, yes, just wait a while and try again
[10:36] <sri> tritium: ok.
[10:36] <surrounder> anyone familiar with mpd under ubuntu/debian ?
[10:36] <Xappe> fraggsta, valknut is dcgui-qt
[10:36] <fraggsta> surrounder, yeah
[10:36] <Bandit> thank you tritium
[10:36] <Xappe> fraggsta, linuxdcpp is gtk :)
[10:36] <surrounder> fraggsta: wel...I can connect to my running server, but it won't play, can't find any error messages either, ideas?
[10:37] <tritium> Bandit, :)
[10:37] <fraggsta> surrounder, can you look in /etc/mpd.conf and tell me what audio output plugin it is using?
[10:37] <darkx> hm why does the gnutella-gtk package not install a binary?
[10:38] <darkx> anyone had that problem?
[10:38] <surrounder> fraggsta: nothing there about that, but thanks for pointing out that file, I think I will manage from here :)
[10:38] <fraggsta> surrounder, the errors should be in /var/log/mpd/mpd.log (at least that's what my config file tells me)
[10:39] <Xappe> are there any good studio software for linux (something similar to soundforge or such programs)
[10:39] <tritium> Xappe, have you looked at audacity?
[10:40] <Xappe> tritium, no, but i'll check it out
[10:40] <Xappe> thinking of setting up a studio computer for my band
[10:40] <arj> what is hotplug subsystem?
[10:40] <fraggsta> surrounder, also just try installing mpc and doing "mpc play" - it might give you more helpful errors - the other thing I can tell you is that for some reason when I last tried forcing the audio output to ALSA it wouldn't play anything - also, you need to add the "mpd" user to the "audio" group (/etc/group) for anything to play
[10:41] <floater> hey is there a way to see my running processes in windows-alike window ?
[10:41] <floater> some ctrl+esc or something wasn't it in general in linux or?
[10:41] <tritium> Xappe, this new live CD is based on ubuntu: http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=demudi
[10:42] <unperson> floater: Applications->System Tools->System Monitor
[10:42] <Xappe> tritium, ah, nice
[10:42] <floater> ohh, thx
[10:43] <unperson> floater: No idea if there's a way to use a key sequence to bring it up, but you can put it as an applet in the panel.
[10:44] <surrounder> fraggsta: great, thanks for your help :)
[10:44] <floater> :) it's alright... thanks
[10:44] <fraggsta> surrounder, any luck yet?
[10:44] <arj> what is hotplug subsystem?
[10:44] <arj> it occur 6 fatal error while booting
[10:44] <AcidMaX> anyone install clearlook ?
[10:45] <drwho> im trying to get the various package mirrors to work that are on the ubuntu wiki but am having little luck anyone know of a good repository other then the archive.ubuntu. one for hoary packages?
[10:45] <AcidMaX> I installed clearlook but I am trying to install http://www.crystalgnome.org/gtkclear.htm and not sure the download is just icons, where do they go?
[10:45] <fraggsta> arj, hotplug *should* generate events the OS can understand when you plug in/remove removable devices:  ie USB/firewire/CDs
[10:45] <arj> ok
[10:46] <arj> and what could the cause of these fatal errors?
[10:46] <arj> *could be
[10:46] <lexhider> anyone else having problems with 'apt-get update' w/ hoary?
[10:46] <fraggsta> arj: can you do "sudo grep hotplug /var/log/messages" and tell me what it says?
[10:46] <arj> if i was on ubuntu, maybe
[10:46] <fraggsta> :(
[10:46] <arj> but i can't logon
[10:47] <arj> as i said before
[10:47] <fraggsta> ohshi
[10:47] <fraggsta> could you ssh into it from another machine?
[10:48] <arj> have only one pc
[10:48] <drwho> ubuntu needs a mirror select app like gentoo it would make the repository situation alot easier
[10:48] <arj> :/
[10:48] <cthulfuego> drwho: What, like apt-setup?
[10:49] <lexhider> Packages downloads but then I get: MD5Sum mismatch
[10:49] <mjt> he
[10:49] <arj> if you tell me how can i logon i can try to see and tell you what it says
[10:49] <arj> :/
[10:49] <mjt> i just solved this same prob (MD5Sum) a few hour ago
[10:49] <mjt> fsvo "solved"
[10:50] <Lineman> mjt how??
[10:50] <fraggsta> arj, can you get to the console perhaps?  press ctrl+alt+f1 and hope that you see a black and white logon screen
[10:50] <arj> :)
[10:50] <arj> ok
[10:50] <arj> but if it doesn't accept my username and password?
[10:50] <mjt> Lineman, lexhider: what version of apt do you have right now?
[10:51] <arj> the problem is not the graphical logon or the console
[10:51] <Lineman> not sure how would i tell?
[10:51] <AcidMaX> anyone know how i install http://www.crystalgnome.org/gtkclear.htm ?
[10:51] <arj> the problem is that there is not a user account
[10:51] <mjt> Lineman: dpkg -p apt will tell you (for one0
[10:51] <Anubis> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz: MD5Sum mismatch
[10:51] <lexhider> mjt: 0.6.31
[10:51] <mjt> fun
[10:51] <Lineman> Version: 0.6.32
[10:52] <mjt> in short: *my* problem went away when i upgraded apt from 0.6.30 to 0.6.32 (manually, by d/loading .debs from archive.ubuntu.com and installing them with dpkg)
[10:52] <mjt> but there's nothing really relevant in changelog
[10:53] <stuNNed> are there snapshots of hoary anywhere besides livecd?
[10:54] <mjt> I noticied it (MD5Sum mismatch) yesterday and asked here several times but no answers
[10:54] <apokryphos> stuNNed: All Linux distros look the same ;); mainly KDE/Gnome that effects the look. I can give you mine though, if you want.
[10:54] <Lineman> could the repositories be down?
[10:55] <LBM> i have the same problem
[10:55] <mjt> right now the repository machine is up and running
[10:55] <mjt> (or else we all will be having different probs - like unable to connect etc)
[10:55] <Bandit> you sure :)
[10:56] <apokryphos> all repositories seem fine to me
[10:56] <Bandit> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  MD5Sum mismatch
[10:56] <Bandit> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary/main/source/Sources.gz  MD5Sum mismatch
[10:56] <Bandit> that is from a machine that usually works
[10:56] <Gusto_> Bandit: i get the same
[10:57] <Gusto_> just stopped working
[10:57] <randabis> Yeah it's a hoary-wide problem right now guys
[10:57] <Gusto_> sometime today
[10:57] <Lineman> there are several of us getting the same
[10:57] <randabis> I suggest trying again in a few hours
[10:57] <Gusto_> :-)
[10:57] <Lineman> thank you randabis
[10:57] <TreadingSoftl1> any hoary beagle users here?
[10:57] <cthulfuego> no, i have a cat
[10:58] <randabis> hah
[10:58] <TreadingSoftl1> cthulfuego: but does it find things for you? :)
[10:58] <randabis> I'm still not sure what beagle even is...lol
[10:58] <Bandit> apokryphos we must be checking different ones ;)
[10:58] <TreadingSoftl1> cthulfuego: (and i'm not talking about dead mice)
[10:58] <cthulfuego> TreadingSoftl1: Yep! Mainly live bird and toy mice, though.
[10:59] <TreadingSoftl1> randabis: it's an advanced desktop search program currently in beta for gnome ... kinda like Apple's recently announced Spotlight
[10:59] <randabis> ah
[10:59] <cthulfuego> TreadingSoftl1: Is it apt-get installable?
[10:59] <randabis> I don't have much use for that presently
[10:59] <TreadingSoftl1> cthulfuego: no
[11:00] <Gusto_>  can I use yum in ubuntu?
[11:00] <hybrid> i got an 504 unknown error  when i apt-get dist-upgrade can i still go on?
[11:00] <TreadingSoftl1> cthulfuego: instructions for hoary install of beagle are here: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HoaryBeagleInstallHowto ... though I've hit a bit of a snag with one of the extensions :(
[11:01] <cthulfuego> Hmm, snags...
[11:01] <Gusto_> whats beagle?
[11:02] <jdub> Gusto_: www.gnome.org/projects/beagle/
[11:03] <Gusto_> jdub: thanks
[11:03] <cthulfuego> TreadingSoftl1: That all seems just a little bit too much like work ;-)
[11:03] <randabis> Gusto_, why would you want to use yum...
[11:03] <randabis> apt > yum
[11:04] <hybrid> yea it is
[11:04] <Gusto_> I like yum better, dont know why really.
[11:04] <randabis> I don't think anyone has made yum work with debian systems
[11:05] <lexhider> Is there an apt-get flag for ignoring the md5sum, because I'm downloading the Packages, it just reports a mismatch.
[11:05] <randabis> hybrid, I would suggest laying off on any apt-getting for the moment
[11:06] <randabis> there seems to be a big problem going on in hoary's repositories atm
[11:07] <Burn`> yep, somebody knows when its fixed?
[11:07] <wdh> lexhider, same for me..
[11:07] <randabis> just hold off on your updating for now...I'm sure it will be fixed soon
[11:08] <randabis> A lot of upstreaming has been going on today so it's possible there was a mistake somewhere along the way
[11:09] <wdh> and lexhider md5sums arent something you want to ignore imho
[11:10] <cthulfuego> No, coz if they don't match, data in the files has changed.
[11:10] <hybrid> randabis : why] 
[11:10] <randabis> why what?
[11:10] <Coily> has anyone managed to get mplayer to work with the downloadwith extension?
[11:10] <hybrid> oo ok
[11:10] <randabis> ah okay
[11:11] <cthulfuego> maybe the 'md5sum' app used to generate the lists was h4xx0r3dz and is now outputting false data.
[11:11] <mjt> ok, so my upgrading apt was just happen right when the md5sum prob went away temporarily, it had nothing to do with the problem
[11:11] <hybrid> well will it mess anything up cuz i already got alot of packages
[11:11] <randabis> lol
[11:11] <rapha> When I have a password which I use for WEP encryption, how do I know what that password is in HEX?
[11:12] <randabis> the packages you already go "should" be okay...I think it would be best to hold off until it it is fixed though
[11:12] <GeneralCody> rapha, convert it to hex
[11:12] <hybrid> ok
[11:12] <hybrid> so just exit out of the terminal?
[11:12] <cthulfuego> hybrid: It probably will. Just don't *install* any of them.
[11:13] <rapha> GeneralCody: Just so, using the ASCII table?
[11:13] <lexhider> I'll try again later, bye.
[11:13] <hybrid> ok thanx
[11:14] <hybrid> ok thank you
[11:14] <jrydberg___> I got an error 18 (Selected cylinder exceeds maximum supported by BIOS) from GRUB.  Do you think it would help to make a own partition for /boot and put it first on the disk?
[11:14] <cthulfuego> rapha: Just use a little util to convert. Shall I write one in C?
[11:14] <GeneralCody> rapha, U have your WEP in Decimal, right?
[11:15] <GeneralCody> rapha, then u must use a dec-->HEX converter
[11:16] <rapha> GeneralCody: Well, no. It's a password, like "jimmy123"...
[11:16] <mjt> iwconfig understands both string and hex form
[11:16] <cthulfuego> rapha: http://www.cafuego.net/hex.c
[11:16] <hybrid> i remember this tool in winblows called simple tool kit
[11:16] <GeneralCody> ok. there is plenty of tools to convert that to HEX. Just google it
[11:17] <hybrid> and in it it had a decimal hex binary and a few other converters
[11:17] <cthulfuego> rapha: Compile it with 'make hex', then run it as ./hex password
[11:17] <hybrid> found it at astalavista
[11:17] <cthulfuego> Probably even printf %X at the console works.
[11:18] <mjt> iwconfig ethX key s:jimmy123 should work
[11:18] <mrzero> hi there, i'm having some md5sum problems with the ubuntu archives when i'm apt-get updating .. anone know what to do/are others experiencing the same problem? Worked earlier today
[11:18] <mjt> everyone's having md5sum problem
[11:18] <cthulfuego> mrzero: Yes, stop running updates for now.
[11:18] <mrzero> okey :)
[11:18] <mjt> because md5sum in the repository indeed does not match
[11:19] <cthulfuego> Could someone add that to the topic?
[11:19] <mjt> btw, where you guys store your WEP passwords in ubuntu?
[11:19] <grendel> hello
[11:19] <cthulfuego> mjt: I just pop mine in interfaces and chmod 600 it.
[11:20] <mjt> cthulfuego: with iwconfig?
[11:20] <spiral> hi
[11:20] <spiral> hmmm... is there a problem with archive ?
[11:20] <spiral> "W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)"
[11:20] <mjt> spiral: yes there is ;)
[11:20] <grendel> guys, got a question about Xorg slowness in Hoary
[11:20] <spiral> mjt: so that's normal & not a problem on my computer ?
[11:20] <mpq> I don't know how to install mplayer
[11:20] <cthulfuego> mjt: No, I add "wireless_key eth0 s:MyPwdD" in interfaces
[11:20] <mjt> spiral: just wait, it's a problem in the archive site
[11:21] <spiral> mjt: all right :-)
[11:21] <randabis> spiral, it's a general problem with hoary's repos atm
[11:21] <mpq> I downloaded it but I don't know what to do with it
[11:21] <grendel> I'm running the up to date Hoary on ThinkPad G41 and I'm seeing a weird behavior with the display slowness
[11:21] <kobs> Hello... is it possible to use Hoary KDE packages on a Warty system? Warty KDE packs are a bit old :/
[11:21] <grendel> can anybody give a hand?
[11:21] <spiral> randabis: all right, thanks
[11:21] <cthulfuego> Not without an amputation, sorry
[11:22] <hybrid> lol
[11:22] <mjt> warty have KDE? i didn't know...
[11:22] <kobs> in universe
[11:22] <mjt> ah ok
[11:23] <kobs> so... i guess that's a no :|
[11:23] <grendel> kobs, edit your /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:23] <mjt> well, give it a try kobs, why not?
[11:23] <rapha> cthulfuego: In principle this works, but it doesn't output a 26-character long value
[11:23] <kobs> i guess
[11:23] <grendel> kobs, append 'universe' to your deb line referring to the archive
[11:23] <kobs> yea, i will try that now
[11:23] <grendel> kobs, doesn't matter, do it in synaptic
[11:24] <kobs> just wasnt sure if hoary packages would work in warty
[11:24] <grendel> it all boils down to editing sources.list anyway
[11:24] <kobs> im new to *debian
[11:24] <mjt> kobs: you will have to upgrade some more packages for that to work
[11:24] <jason_> evening folks
[11:24] <kobs> hmm okay, thank you
[11:24] <grendel> so, anyboy in the know of the hoary's Xorg?
[11:24] <mjt> what's so special in the hoary's Xorg?
[11:25] <scoon> anyone here having trouble apt'ing in hoary main today ?
[11:25] <jason_> nothing
[11:25] <grendel> that the i810 driver is acting weird
[11:25] <mjt> scoon: everyone does
[11:25] <grendel> when I switch the desktops, or even alt-tab between windows - SOMETIMES I can see the screen redrawn
[11:25] <scoon> mjt, what is the scoop ?
[11:25] <grendel> like I was running on an i386 machine
[11:25] <randabis> grendel, daniels has been working hard on that driver iirc. There seems to be a lot of problems with it
[11:25] <grendel> and 2 miuntes later, it's instanteneous
[11:25] <kobs> mjt: will apt automatically upgrade those packages for me
[11:25] <grendel> randabis, hm, ok
[11:25] <jason_> scoon:  same issue here
[11:25] <mjt> kobs: yes
[11:26] <kobs> yay
[11:26] <grendel> randabis, I  thought it could have been a HT problem
[11:26] <jason_> scoon: just going to wait a few hours and retry
[11:26] <grendel> it also managed to oops the kernel in drm :)
[11:26] <scoon> jason_, have any idea what is up ?
[11:26] <randabis> hmm
[11:27] <randabis> scoon md5sum errors is what is up :/
[11:27] <grendel> randabis, I'm running self-compiled kernels, and the problem was in intelfb, vesafb works fine
[11:27] <mjt> scoon: apt tells you everything, and md5sums are indeed does not match -- in the repository aka archive.ubuntu.com
[11:27] <randabis> hmm
[11:27] <grendel> but you should see the screen redraw.... :)
[11:27] <grendel> a 3.2Ghz machine and it is slow as mud :)
[11:27] <scoon> mjt, thanks.  I read the err.  I was just curious if anyone new anything more than the OBVIOUS .
[11:28] <mjt> next is to figure out WHY sums does not match in the repository ;)
[11:28] <grendel> randabis, any idea whether the CVS xorg could be better for that driver?
[11:29] <blah09> hey randabis, did your joystick install go flawlessly?
[11:29] <randabis> no clue
[11:29] <rapha> cthulfuego: Okay, we just needed to put "0"s in front of it
[11:29] <rapha> Worked, thanks!"
[11:29] <grendel> ok, thanks anyway
[11:29] <shock> damn... are the ubuntu sources completely bungled for anyone else right now?
[11:29] <jason_> does universe multiverse or restricted have non-free software?
[11:29] <grendel> I'll play with the CVS drivers
[11:29] <grendel> and the intel binary ones
[11:29] <grendel> l8rs
[11:30] <randabis> blah09, it works, if that's what you mean.
[11:30] <blah09> do you have to reboot?
[11:30] <randabis> shock, yes, there are problems
[11:30] <randabis> no
[11:30] <scoon> mjt, the WHY is what i was interested in.  I guess that is in process.
[11:30] <GeneralCody> This is my first night fooling around with ubuntu. Can i find the ATI Radeon drivers in Universe?
[11:31] <mjt> someone with the ops rights please add this damn md5sum thing into the /topic ;)
[11:31] <spiral> GeneralCody: linux-restricted-modules
[11:31] <GeneralCody> oki
[11:31] <spiral> GeneralCody: and xorg-fglrx or xfree86-fglrx or smth like this
[11:34] <blah09> oh you have to plug it in first lol
[11:34] <spiral> blah09: :-)
[11:34] <blah09> i mean for it to create /dev/js0 ;)
[11:35] <blah09> hey mjt, what does mjt stand for if you dont mind me asking
[11:35] <blah09> i know another guy named mjt lol
[11:36] <mjt> i found in spam that there are alot of mjt@something emails ;)
[11:36] <hybrid> anyone have a list of good commands for irssi?
[11:36] <spiral> mjt: nice method :-p
[11:36] <mjt> hybrid: try /help ;)
[11:36] <hybrid> ok thnx
[11:38] <hybrid> mjt  i did /help and /whois mjt in the channel but i got nothing
[11:38] <jason_> anyone kkow if there is an official or unofficial  place to chat in general about the GNU movement?
[11:38] <mjt> blah09: haven't noticied you question.. it's just after my initials
[11:38] <hikaru79> How can I add .ttf fonts to Ubuntu? (For use in OpenOffice, mainly)
[11:39] <hikaru79> jason_, try #gnu
[11:39] <randabis> put them in /home/user/.fonts
[11:39] <hikaru79> =P
[11:39] <cthulfuego> hikaru79: I think you just plonk them in ~/.fonts
[11:39] <mjt> hybrid: try hitting Alt+1 (switching into window #1) -- everything is there.  Alt+number will switch to window #number
[11:39] <hikaru79> Sweet! It's that easy?
[11:39] <randabis> sure
[11:39] <AndyR> lo all
[11:39] <cthulfuego> hikaru79: Well, you could run a remote font server and add them to that if you prefer something harder...
[11:39] <AndyR> ndiswrapper is cool
[11:39] <hybrid> oo ok thnx
[11:40] <blah09> hm
[11:40] <AndyR> got my wusb54g working in a few mins
[11:40] <blah09> anyone use SNES9x?
[11:40] <randabis> installing fonts that way makes them available for your user only though
[11:40] <randabis> gsnes9x yes
[11:40] <hikaru79> randabis, that's fine
[11:40] <Sav> Can someone recomend a ood ftp client? multiple transfers/tabs/etx
[11:40] <randabis> I'm gonna switch back to zsnes when the package is finally updated to 1.400
[11:40] <mpq> I don't know how to compile
[11:41] <hybrid> ./
[11:41] <AndyR> Sav, i use gftp
[11:41] <Sav> AndyR, well me to, im looking for something better
[11:41] <hybrid> mpq : go to the dir you need to be in then type ./name-xxx-version
[11:41] <blah09> i dont know how to start gsnes lol
[11:41] <blah09> and snes9express doesnt work too well
[11:42] <hikaru79> If ~/.fonts doesn't exist, I just create it?
[11:42] <blah09> isnt the command gsnes?
[11:42] <AndyR> Sav, whats wrong with it?
[11:42] <randabis> hikaru79, yes
[11:42] <randabis> remember /home/user/.fonts
[11:42] <randabis> not just /.fonts
[11:42] <hikaru79> Got it :)
[11:42] <Sav> AndyR, cant have more then 1 ftp at a time, cant handla multiple transfers and i cant sent site commands.
[11:43] <mjt> if you aren't afraid of the command line (which is far more productive when you're used to it), try lftp
[11:44] <hikaru79> w00t, it works. Thanks guys.
[11:44] <randabis> np
[11:45] <randabis> blah09, gsnes9x
[11:45] <randabis> err
[11:45] <Sav> mjr, lftp is good, but i'd like a graphcal interface
[11:45] <randabis> hold on
[11:45] <blah09> =/
[11:45] <blah09> i think its broken
[11:45] <blah09> heh
[11:46] <blah09> it puts a link in usr/bin doesnt it?
[11:46] <mjt> Sav: just as i said: if you don't afraid of the command line ;)
[11:46] <mpq> I can't figure out how to change directories in the terminal
[11:46] <randabis> Gsnes9x
[11:47] <randabis> make sure you do Gsnes9x not gsnes9x
[11:47] <blah09> ah got it
[11:47] <wdh> mpq, define 'change'
[11:47] <blah09> thanks randabis
[11:47] <randabis> GSnes9x :p
[11:47] <mpq> I'm trying to figure out how to compile something
[11:47] <randabis> there
[11:47] <mpq> but I don't know how
[11:48] <randabis> rtfw
[11:48] <hybrid> pq It should come with an INSTALL file, but './configure' 'make' 'sudo make install' is what most require.
[11:49] <hybrid> mpq
[11:49] <mpq> huh?
[11:49] <blah09> hey where does snes9x install itself to do you know?
[11:49] <mpq> I don't really understand
[11:50] <hybrid> to compie type ./ in the command line
[11:50] <hybrid> ./configure
[11:50] <mpq> ./MPlayer-1.0pre6a: is a directory
[11:51] <mpq> did I do it wrong?
[11:51] <randabis> you have to cd to that directory
[11:51] <hybrid> mpq : y do you want to compile? just use synaptic
[11:51] <mpq> I think I figured out what I did wrong
[11:51] <hybrid> ok
[11:51] <mpq> I forgot it was case sentitive
[11:52] <randabis> mpq use this guide
[11:52] <randabis> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=94
[11:52] <Lineman> hybrid cause synaptic isnt working at present
[11:52] <hybrid> oo yea
[11:53] <hybrid> srry forgot
[11:53] <Lineman> :)
[11:53] <jrydberg___> so, upgrading to hoary!  i guess it's better to do that from the console rather then from X?
[11:53] <jrydberg___> is there any guide for this?
[11:53] <Xappe> check the wiki and forums for a guide
[11:54] <randabis> jrydberg___, it doesn't matter, but do NOT attempt to do that right now
[11:54] <shingokii> Does anyone know why, after I install nvidia drivers, I can't log out any more?
[11:54] <randabis> the hoary repositories are broken atm
[11:54] <jrydberg___> randabis: why's that
[11:54] <randabis> the hoary repositories are broken atm
[11:54] <Xappe> not for me
[11:55] <Xappe> I had hat md5sum message, but now it's gone
[11:55] <Xappe> *that
[11:55] <hybrid> Xappe : they were on and off to me when i was dist-upgrading
[11:55] <randabis> yeah the md5sum errors seem to be gone for me now too
[11:55] <shingokii> ohhh... I can log out, I just have to wait a while
[11:55] <randabis> I guess it "might" be fixed now
[11:56] <mpq> I want to change what the terminal looks like
[11:56] <randabis> jrydberg___, you "should" be fine now...go ahead and try your upgrade. It doesn't matter if you are in X
[11:56] <hybrid> i am still gonna wait a while
[11:56] <mpq> I want it to be black with white text, like dos
[11:56] <Xappe> i've been dist-upgrading at least three times the last hour without any errors
[11:56] <mpq> is there a way to do this?
[11:56] <randabis> edit your profile
[11:57] <jrydberg___> randabis: how stable is hoary right now?
[11:57] <hybrid> when i mount a cd what is the dir path to it
[11:57] <hybrid> ?
[11:58] <rapha> gnight
[11:58] <_|Imanewbie|_> can anyone give me a hand with sound while playing movies in xine?
[11:58] <mpq> what does sudo mean?
[11:58] <_|Imanewbie|_> mpq: superuserdo
[11:58] <hybrid> it is temp root
[11:59] <randabis> jrydberg___, depends on what you mean by stable
[11:59] <jrydberg___> randabis: will it crash ten times per day?