[12:01] seb128: have you heard anything of f-spot? [12:02] rocking image viewer according to some comments [12:02] why ? [12:02] seb128: nah we talked about updating it [12:02] oh [12:02] noh, I was thinking to do it seems noboby seems to care [12:02] heard anything on the debian side i wondered [12:02] hrm. [12:03] does it work with the current bindings version in debian ? [12:03] yes, they reverted to gtk-sharp1 [12:03] the maintainer is a gnome-pkg maintainers so I guess I could push an upload [12:03] there is a 0.0.8 anounced just now. [12:04] libgphoto2 support [12:04] yep, I've read the mail [12:04] of course :) === dilinger [~dilinger@dsl-64-246-147-130.ubr0.dc1-alb.inoc.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:04] do you have a package for it ? [12:04] nope. [12:04] I can probably upload/get it uploaded in debian [12:05] lets see how gross the current source looks [12:05] but I'm pretty busy and I don't know a lot about gtk-sharp stuff packaging [12:06] seb128: ill get back to you in a bit. [12:07] k, thanks [12:07] the version in debian is really outdated and has some RC [12:07] would be nice to fix that soon :) === azeem [~mbanck@ppp-62-245-211-50.mnet-online.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mako waves [12:17] lwce has been pretty productive [12:18] hey mako [12:19] seb128: this is going to take some futzing to get the internal libgphoto2-sharp into the debian mandated paths [12:19] ogra: hey there [12:19] i think we might get a couple more ubuntu derivs out of this.. :) [12:19] tseng: k [12:20] amu: which language did you select? [12:20] daniels: german [12:21] amu: wwwwwweeeeeiiiiirrrrrrrdddddddddddddddd [12:21] daniels: :-) [12:21] daniels: oh, your keyboard has the sam bug as mine ? [12:21] same even [12:21] daniels: i've been told to report X-stuff to you: [12:21] *"DE"* ) LAYOUT="de" XKBOPTIONS="" ;; [12:22] ogra: $LANG is de_DE.UTF-8? [12:22] T-Bone: sure [12:22] yup [12:22] daniels: on recent intall ISOs, X setups at 60Hz VertRefresh (as it's been reported on the m-l). That does kill eyes :) [12:22] ogra: argh [12:22] especially on big (19"+) screens :) === dgp [~danilo@adsl-ull-107-163.46-151.net24.it] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [12:22] T-Bone: is you need to put in horizsync/vertrefresh, then either you're using the i810 driver and it's a bug there, or your monitor's lying to us [12:22] daniels: same here, LANG is de_DE.UTF-8 [12:23] daniels: changing HorizSync and VertRefresh to more coherent values in xorg.conf fixes that [12:23] daniels: none of the above [12:23] daniels: not to be mistaken, i meant the key repitition [12:23] daniels: it worked (tm) and it's no longer working since a couple of daily rolls [12:26] n8 all [12:27] n8 === Buff [~stephen@stuE35E.kent.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === HiddenWolf [~hidde@136.4.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:30] ogra: ah, heh :) [12:31] T-Bone: that's bizzare; i haven't touched x in like two weeks [12:31] daniels: which is a kernel bug i think.... [12:34] daniels: two weeks is probably the last time i noticed it was working :) [12:38] T-Bone: weird [12:39] daniels: heh ;) [12:40] schweeb: right, what thom said [12:41] Kamion: heh, if I had a proper internet connection at home, I'd already have had the CD burned before you replied :p [12:41] T-Bone: hm, I'm thinking that any hand-written hotplug pci map probably needs to be kernel version specific; otherwise we're going to run into problems with module names changing between kernel versions and stuff [12:41] seb128: got it :) [12:42] T-Bone: would you guys be amenable to having the kernel package ship such a file, if I supplied the initial contents? [12:42] Kamion: certainly [12:43] Kamion: we'll have to figure out how to integrate it in the kernel package, but i guess it won't be difficult to handle === T-Bone has to call it a night. Will be back at 13CET === T-Bone is now known as T-None [12:51] erm, we lost seb =/ [12:52] no, he likes core dumps.... [12:52] heh, but he was about to upload my package [12:52] ouch [12:52] tseng: probaly went to do another "patch fo the boog" ;-)) [12:53] sivang: EZ GTK BOOG! [12:53] tseng: heheheh [12:53] tseng: do you think it was your package that crashed him ? :) [12:53] tseng: him and jdub just ROTFLed me heavily this week with their cross mutual accusations :) [12:53] ogra: nope, hadnt even posted it yet [12:53] just finished rsync [12:53] :) [12:54] tseng: I think seb should be considered for the most hilarious changlog entries ever contest :) [12:54] hah [12:54] I've made some pretty bogus ones to Gentoo === Evaso [~yellow@ppp-254-159.24-151.libero.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:54] hi guys is there any ubuntu devel here? [12:55] Evaso: nah, we're all over in #ubuntu. :-) [12:55] Evaso: what are you looking for? [12:55] heh [12:56] i'm thinkig to close dehs.alioth.debian.org serice, with al the upstream changelog info getted from internet, is any ubuntu developer interessed on this data? [12:56] lifeless?? [12:56] dude, midnight, sleep tgime [12:57] lifeless: what evaso said [12:57] so as long as we're quick... [12:57] what did he say? [12:57] i'm thinkig to close dehs.alioth.debian.org serice, with al the upstream changelog info getted from internet, is any ubuntu developer interessed on this data? [12:57] for some reason, I thought of maybe you. [12:58] and it's not midnight in .au... [12:58] I'm in London [12:58] you jet-setter you [12:58] yeah, kindof interesting though we don't have a scific use for it [12:58] *specific* [12:59] night [12:59] g'night then [12:59] lamont: hrm, what is dehs.a.d.o ? [12:59] sivang: I imagine it's something alioth-ish... [12:59] Evaso: ?? [12:59] lamont: heh ok [01:00] dehs is an info system about debian situation against upstream version with upstream changelog where the upstream version is noth in sync with debian one [01:00] it uses information from debian/watch [01:00] sounds like something that could live in launchpad, I guess [01:01] but I suspect Evaso is annoyed because many Debian people who are also upstream or have upstreams that don't release code in conventional ways don't find debian/watch very useful [01:01] so we shouldn't expect 100% coverage or anything [01:02] kamion: dehs had also generetad already 1588 watch file (for packages that no had one) and has passed uscan test [01:03] sure, I should probably add some to a few of my packages [01:03] kamion: it must only be puttend in the debian directory of their own packages [01:03] yes, I am aware of what the debian/watch file does [01:04] and actually i doesn't know any internet service that retrive upstream changelog other than dehs === Kamion wanders off to dehs to see what it says for him [01:04] Evaso: I already asked you to not close down the site, I think it's useful for QA purposes in Debian. If the load on alioth is too high, I'm sure some admin will mail you about it, don't worry as long as you don't hear anything === dnielsen [~dnielsen@82.150.72.35] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:05] I also told you that I'm very likely going to include an 'outdated w.r.t. upstream' warning in the PTS's "todo" based on dehs... [01:07] jvw: is PTS more popular that developer.php? [01:07] Evaso: they are both popular, different use cases [01:08] jvw: do u know some lintian developer? === lamont uses pts, but can't recall using developer.php [01:08] Evaso: erm, you're talking with one, check the changelog :) [01:08] Evaso: would appriciate pointer on how to make my package my pkgs dehs compliant :) === Kokey [~ubunturer@201.137.168.75] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:09] Evaso: I also nowadays maintain PTS, with still occasional help from the original author [01:09] sivang: man uscan [01:09] jvw: i doesn't know litian source code but i think fixing this #234202 require 30 sec for a guy that know the source code [01:10] ah, uscan --pasv helps [01:10] Evaso: I agree it'd be easy to fix [01:10] #234202 should only be applied to non-native packages at most === zul [~chuck@CPE0006258ec6c2-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:10] hey [01:10] no point in warning for dpkg, say :-) [01:10] Kamion: what do you think for non-native packages? [01:10] ppl can override it... [01:11] I'm a tad unsure [01:11] Evaso: that's why that isn't yet implemented [01:11] jvw: *shrug* - I think a warning's reasonable enough, I guess, not sure [01:12] my estimate is that it's useful for well over 95% or so, probably more, of the packages [01:12] non-native ones, that is [01:12] dehs already exlude debian native packages: they are not archived/processed in dehs === lexhider [~lexhider@dip-220-235-84-139.vic.westnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:13] Evaso: this is about the lintian warning, which cannot be aware of dehs [01:13] Evaso: Kamion is also a lintian maintainer [01:13] some of my non-native packages just can't have dehs files, though, db1-compat comes to mind immediately [01:13] er, watch files [01:13] Having a problem with eject command from right on CD icon, what package do I report a bug against? [01:13] the last time I looked at the QA pages, the "new upstream version" stuff was a bit crackful for my packages [01:13] elmo: PTS of DDPO? [01:14] probably because some of them pre-date the birth of the sun [01:14] or [01:14] it's not native because it wasn't written for Debian, but its source was picked out of an old version of glibc by hand [01:14] jvw: not sure - the fun one, with a huge table and lots of info ;) [01:14] elmo: heh, DDPO :) [01:14] which is, er, not exactly easily encodable in debian/watch :) [01:14] right-click [01:14] Kamion: there surely are a significant number of valid cases to not have one [01:15] Kamion: if there isn't a clear upstream release version watch info had no sense [01:15] Evaso: yeah, but we keep appearing on your statistics and you keep sending mails to Debian lists saying how lazy we are :) [01:15] maybe there could be some way to say "yes, I have checked and I can't produce a watch file for this package, it's not just that I'm lazy" [01:16] I'm just a bit uncertain whether there are few enough valid non-watch-possible packages to still warn, and have those people override [01:16] kamion: echo "WHATEVER" > debian/watch [01:16] ;) [01:16] Kamion: or that, yeah [01:16] elmo: tempting [01:16] jvw: would dehs be able to parse lintian overrides though? [01:17] elmo: if anyone ever did that, I would hope a large fist came and punched them in the goolies for stupid use of quotes :) [01:17] Kamion: of course it can be made, but then StevenK needs to start parsing lintian overrides when he catches up copy-catting lintian :) [01:17] jvw: nload is genereted and tested from dehs [01:17] 5611 N Feb18 01 Planet Debian (0.6K) Marco d'Itri: Closing bugs feels good! [01:17] jvw: yeah, that's kind of why I don't feel that a lintian override is the right place to put that information [01:18] Kamion: ack [01:18] how about a present but empty watch file? [01:18] what does that do? [01:18] Evaso: suggestion for a way to have maintainers say "No, there is no watch file, and it makes sense to not have one"? [01:19] dunno, could be made to do the right thing of course [01:19] daniels: that's rich coming from Mr. '[ "x$RET" = "xtrue" ] ' [01:19] but, seems a bit ugly to me [01:19] we could talk to Jdg (actually the defacto maintaier of the watch file format) about introduce antoher state in the watch file [01:19] so we colud intoduce status [01:19] like [01:19] de facto? de jure :-) [01:19] sleep tight everyone [01:20] for example: [01:20] status=1 [01:20] goooooood morning freedom lovers [01:20] Evaso: is he responsive, Jdg? [01:20] jdub: morning :) [01:20] jvw: fairly [01:20] oh, ok, seemed to recall some issues, but be outdated on that [01:20] Kamion: :) [01:21] jvw: http://lists.debian.org/debian-policy/2005/02/msg00078.html [01:21] hai jdub [01:21] jdub: try waking up earlier, hippy [01:21] I wonder what that bug fix is [01:21] daniels: (the x thing definitely isn't needed in busybox sh, and I don't think POSIX sh requires it either, BTW) [01:21] jdub: just have a look at the end of http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UniversePythonTransitionTODO - i think it speaks for the ubuntu-love ;-) [01:21] as nobody (AFAIK) uses uscan itself anyway... maybe we just shouldn't care [01:22] Kamion: yeah, istr something about "" invalidating need for x [01:22] hey, I do use uscan from time to time [01:22] well, but those that don't, it doesn't matter how their watch file works with uscan like as long as it works for the QA scripts :) [01:22] jvw: i had a badly hacked version of uscan for dehs, we want to define own format and rewrite an application on it? [01:23] err, no, rather not :) [01:24] no reason to fork the format, Julian is not that unresponsive; last upload of devscripts 13 January 2005 [01:24] I already looked it up, he used to have key issues [01:24] I think that we must to work with Julian, for integrate a dehs command line option in uscan and to expand the uscan format with new features [01:26] Evaso: I think you're by far the most suited to do so, I think the most important thing is to there be a good way to say "no upstream available" [01:26] jvw: fixed a while back I think [01:27] Kamion: eh, how then? [01:27] oh, you mean his key issues? [01:27] yeah [01:27] daniels: i am so dead to the world, was up for... 48hrs? :) [01:28] must be, as he isn't in the official MIA db about that, but was merely in my private list of those, which is quite old by now :) [01:28] jdub: heh :) i slept most of yesterday after I got back [01:28] dholbach: :D awesome! [01:29] /m jdub so, like ... you still have legoness on your table [01:29] ah, bleh [01:29] haha [01:29] yes, i noticed that yesterday [01:29] everyone, daniels bought lots of lego for me :) [01:29] went to grab them before I left, but only realised just then that they were only tied, and couldn't find any duct tape; maybe not so good for checked luggage ;) [01:29] jdub: leog? [01:29] lego? [01:30] can I also have some? ;-) [01:30] sivang: mindstorm, even [01:30] daniels: yeah === rcliii [~rcliii@c-24-10-179-112.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:30] jdub: so yeah, if you want to get them down at some stage, that would be awesome ;) [01:30] daniels: ah!!!!!1 [01:31] daniels: I'm hooked on mindstorm, I had to previous "version" of these and build a couple of circular motion based vechicles :) [01:31] well, there is no relevant news, i tink to leave [01:31] jdub: and I can pay you for the postage [01:34] bye guys [01:34] bye === Evaso [~yellow@ppp-254-159.24-151.libero.it] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Client] === dholbach [~daniel@td9091a2e.pool.terralink.de] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Verlassend"] === zenrox [~zenrox@wbar7.sea-4-12-028-223.dsl-verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jlj [~agp@host-81-191-64-79.bluecom.no] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Astharot [~isager@82.52.99.251] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:56] Suspend/resume situation is looking quite massively pleasing [01:59] which reminds me [01:59] Errors were encountered while processing: [01:59] mozilla-firefox [01:59] mozilla-firefox-gnome-support [01:59] yelp [01:59] ubuntu-desktop [01:59] mozilla-firefox-locale-en-gb [02:00] E === lamont kicks libbonobo [02:00] Kamion: you have a copy of the "current" livecd-rootfs for ia64, and I'll put it back in the right spot for you to keep fetching it === azeem updates HoaryPMResults to confirm Suspend-to-Disk works fine on R51 [02:01] Kamion: the alternative is to make the ia64 livecd be just ubuntu-base for the moment.. :-( [02:02] azeem: Rock [02:02] Suspend to disk ought to work on any machine with enough swap now [02:03] lamont: I do? [02:03] how much is enough swap? >= memory size? [02:03] Kamion: sorry - that was an 'if you do' [02:04] I guess I could just grab it from the last daily, eh>? [02:04] I suppose I could pick it out of something, yeah [02:04] Kamion: I can grab it if you don't have it lying naked somewhere [02:04] what all do you fetch? cloop and manifest? [02:05] yeah. I can pick out both, one sec [02:05] if you have it trivially, that'd be great [02:05] isoinfo is my friend === lamont feeds horses while he waits [02:07] lamont: chinstrap:~cjwatson/casper-ia64/ [02:07] hm, I should try suspend-to-disk again [02:07] will need to be renamed to livecd-current.* of course [02:07] mjg59, what's the minimum requirement on swap size for suspend to disk? [02:08] Kamion: wget, or scp? [02:08] nm [02:08] tritium: Larger than RAM [02:08] thanks [02:08] tritium: The technical requirement is that everything current used must fit in RAM, and that must then fit in your swap partition === khud [~khud@241.Red-83-41-55.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:11] mjg59, that's what I thought. The automatic partitioner sometimes makes a swap slightly smaller than the amount of RAM. [02:11] mjg59: does suspend-to-disk turn of swap entirely, or just the swap partition you're suspending to? [02:11] smurfix: Mm? [02:12] tritium: Yeah, should be fixed on laptop installs in Hoary [02:12] smurfix: the swap partition is used to write the memory content to, and gets reused as swap once Ubuntu is resumed [02:12] mjg59, great! [02:12] Mmh, but the stuff that's already swpped out needs to be swapped in forst, right? [02:12] first [02:13] smurfix: Good question. No idea. [02:13] (I try not to read the swsusp code too much, it scares me) [02:13] Kamion: you're golden [02:13] I guess I'll reinstall to get enough swap space for suspend to disk [02:13] Kamion: Does the installer make big swap partitions on laptops for suspend? [02:14] because then it'd actually make sense to have two appropriately-prioritized swap partitions, one for actual swapping and one for suspend. [02:14] I'll investigate then [02:16] argh,my-space-key-stopped-working-in-x...works-on-console-though [02:16] ogra: lol [02:20] grrrrrr [02:22] hmm, gnome keyboard selector seems to fix it [02:23] actually switching layouts.... === dredg beds while there's still a chance he'll wake up in the morning [02:23] nightol [02:23] night dredg, nice first package, thanks === tritium [~tritium@12-202-90-180.client.insightBB.com] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === Buff [~stephen@stuE35E.kent.ac.uk] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [02:46] night all! [02:46] night [02:51] mjg59: not especially, no [02:52] lamont: thanks [02:56] lamont: http://weddell.buildd/%7Ebuildd/livecd/livecd-current.cloop: [02:56] 01:55:18 ERROR 403: Forbidden. [02:56] doih [02:57] EOWNER [02:57] try it now [03:01] Kamion: Hrm. I can't remember who I discussed this with now. [03:01] Kamion: We certainly need larger swap by default if we want hibernation support === mjg59 heads for bed [03:05] mjg59: oh, it tries for up to 3 times RAM though [03:05] mjg59: it depends what fits, but I think it should be OK by default [03:11] lamont: could you give daily-live 20050218.1 ia64 a go, please? it should work without weird boot arguments now [03:12] oh, wow [03:14] Kamion: it'll take a while, fetching shortly [03:15] np [03:18] is there a way to tell rsync that if it dies during the middle of the rsync, that it shouldn't truncate the target file? [03:19] one option is not to use --partial, but that has other problems ... [03:20] lamont: as far as I know, only "not use --partial" === mxpxpod [~bryan@mxpxpod.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ironwolf [~ironwolf@c-24-6-169-124.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:32] lamont: ping [03:33] doh unping === mxpxpod [~bryan@208.252.112.24] has joined #ubuntu-devel === YokoZar [~scott@d160-104-la-rue-2.ucdavis.edu] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:37] http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/dazjw/img_0121.jpg [03:38] YokoZar: hah, thats cute [03:38] That picture has good public relations written all over it [03:41] elmo: ping [03:41] is anyone else having problems with icons on their desktop not showing up properly? === usual [~colin@cpe-69-204-175-36.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:42] YokoZar: wow [03:42] I get the generic icon [03:42] YokoZar: haha [03:43] YokoZar: post to sounder :) [03:43] Heh, maybe [03:45] hmm, seems to be something with the new gnome-icon-theme === mxpxpod [~bryan@mxpxpod.user] has left #ubuntu-devel ["later.."] [03:59] Kamion: all went well so far, cept for the bootloader (I'm using XFS /) === ogra [~ogra@p508EAD3F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Safari_Al [~triley@203.52.193.58] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:32] jdub, around [05:32] ? [05:33] yo! [05:33] Hi there! Just wondering what that status is of that info you were going to pass along to me? [05:34] shoulda got it on wednesday [05:35] is slackzone the most useful address to use? [05:35] In this case, probably @commander is better. [05:36] mmm, didn't have that address :) [05:36] tim.riley? [05:36] woah [05:36] I thought I had been using that address for our previous correspondence. [05:37] whoa is me (haw haw) [05:37] you had too [05:37] n/m [05:37] triley [05:37] haha [05:37] That's it. [05:37] Anyway, slackzone is no problem either. Whichever you remember first :P [05:39] i get lbdb to do my remembering [05:39] with mutt? [05:39] yeah [05:39] Nice. [05:40] so my lbdb database was updated today [05:40] and i have records going back to 2002 [05:40] 2001 even [05:41] but no tim riley, corporate style === HrdwrBoB [~matt@bob.is.teh.admin.at.vicnet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:48] Well, now you've got corporate-tim :) [05:58] i resent, let me know when you get it [06:00] Thanks. I don't remember getting this @slackzone.org. [06:01] ! [06:01] that is because it is not slackzone.rg! [06:01] ah! [06:02] argh [06:02] sorry [06:02] not that anyone would get a bounce out of it [06:02] because they're patently useless now [06:06] jdub, passing along the appropriate information and my recommendations now. I'll get back to you once I have something. [06:06] Thanks again. === dilinger [dilinger@mouth.voxel.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === `anthony [~anthony@ekorp-203-63-137-225.eoff.ekorp.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:55] thom: you awake? === ficusplanet [~brad@12-216-228-198.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:18] Hey everyone. Will dbus-0.23.1 make it into hoary anytime soon? I noticed that the latest beagle requires it? Also, do the latest hoary kernels have inotify-0.18? [07:25] they have inotify, dunno which version === pitti [~pitti@box79162.elkhouse.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:46] Morning === ficusplanet [~brad@12-216-228-198.client.mchsi.com] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === d3vic3 [~foobar@dumbledore.hbd.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jamesh [~james@dumbledore.hbd.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === morgs [~morgan@dumbledore.hbd.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === stub [~stub@dumbledore.hbd.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === carlos [~carlos@dumbledore.hbd.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Mitario [~michiel@sikkes.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:58] morning! === mirak [~mirak@AAubervilliers-152-1-10-36.w82-121.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === JanC [~JanC@dD5764BD1.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === hawke_ [~hawke@hawkesnest.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tuo2 [~foo@218-215-8-253.people.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dholbach [~daniel@td9091b4b.pool.terralink.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:25] hai [08:26] hi [08:27] morning d3vic3, how are you? === hawke_ [~hawke@hawkesnest.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === HcE [egtvedt@tux.samfundet.no] has joined #ubuntu-devel === morgs [~morgan@dumbledore.hbd.com] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [08:55] lo dholbach, me is ok and you ? [09:01] should be sitting in the train already *hectic* [09:01] moins [09:09] have a nice weekend [09:09] see you on sunday === pitti [~martin@box79162.elkhouse.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sivang [~sivang@box79162.elkhouse.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === doko [~doko___@dsl-082-082-206-147.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:33] daniels: sended debug === Keybuk [~scott@host217-37-231-25.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:35] amu: thanks a lot [09:36] daniels: it was a T41 if you want another test letme know [09:39] amu: ah sorry, could you please put the -x on .config.in, rather than .postinst.in? [09:39] daniels: iso was 20050217 === mvo [~egon@ip181.135.1511I-CUD12K-01.ish.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:40] daniels: do you want the test with the current iso, rsync just finished [09:49] amu: whichever is easiest for you -- xorg hasn't changed in a while === carlos [~carlos@dumbledore.hbd.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === rburton [~ross@84.12.33.22] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:03] Kamion: so i've a copy of syslog with debugging if you want it === martink [~martin@pD9EB216B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === snaggen [~snaggen@195.22.81.34] has joined #ubuntu-devel === seb128 [~seb128@ANancy-151-1-36-111.w83-196.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Simira [~rpGirl@16.80-202-208.nextgentel.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === koke [~koke@rm-001-26.serve.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === daniels [~daniels@amnesiac.heapspace.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === daniels_ [~daniels@amnesiac.heapspace.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === daniels [~daniels@202-44-183-17.nexnet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:00] good morning again: http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/dazjw/img_0121.jpg [11:00] YokoZar: cool [11:01] elmo: here ? === ups [~ups@203.200.160.36] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:05] seb128: not yet, apparently [11:08] mvo: ping [11:08] pitti: pong [11:08] mvo: in Synaptic's progress dialog, would it be possible to first display the package name and then the URL? [11:09] pitti: when the details are opened? [11:09] mvo: currently I only see a long list of "http://archive.ubuntu.com/u..." (unless I resize the dialog) [11:09] mvo: yes [11:10] pitti: it's stuff I get from apt that way, I can change it [11:10] mvo: another thing [11:10] mvo: if I open a Ubuntu CD and upgrade, then I still get a Nautilus window [11:10] mvo: you currently have a HAL script, right? [11:11] mvo: maybe it would be better to integrate this stuff into gnome-volume-manager [11:11] pitti: no, it's part of the C code in update-notifier [11:11] mvo: huh, you detect Ubuntu CDs in u-n? [11:11] I thought you have a hal callout? [11:11] pitti: I link against libhal [11:11] ah [11:12] hm, somehow we should teach gvm not to open Ubuntu CDs when upgrading from them [11:12] what do you think? [11:12] is there a way to tell hal to stop processing the event when I handled it? [11:12] mvo: no, because it will be executed asynchronously and in parallel [11:13] mvo: whoever is faster handles it first :-) [11:13]