| jbailey | T-Bone: What are you hacking? | 12:00 |
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| T-Bone | jbailey: i'm whacking, mind you. The ppc kernel :P | 12:01 |
| jbailey | Oh nice. Je te laisses tranquille! | 12:01 |
| T-Bone | though i wonder whether that could be some glibc bug | 12:01 |
| T-Bone | s/laisses/laisse/ ;) | 12:01 |
| jbailey | Mm. that's right. conjugated from Je, not te. | 12:02 |
| T-Bone | since I built my ppc64 gentoo fine on that very same box... | 12:02 |
| T-Bone | s/te/tu/ ;) | 12:02 |
| jbailey | No, I had 'te' in the sentence, unless that was wrong? | 12:02 |
| mxpxpod | jbailey: you said they're using a mmap in update-icon-cache? | 12:03 |
| jbailey | T-Bone: I was playing with the that that our glibc might be the cause of my gij breakage, since I couldn't imagine that noone else was seeing it, but upstream glibc is currently have gcc4-on-ppc issues at the moment. | 12:03 |
| T-Bone | jbailey: sorry yeah, i've too hasty :) | 12:03 |
| jbailey | mxpxpod: I think so. I remember seeing that it pulled in mmap and such. | 12:03 |
| T-Bone | jbailey: well, that'd make sense. I have no such issues on my pegasos running either debian or gentoo | 12:03 |
| mxpxpod | I'll have to go over the source tonite | 12:03 |
| jbailey | mxpxpod: It either is trying to mmap and arch-indep file, or it should be in /usr/lib, mind you. | 12:03 |
| T-Bone | jbailey: the bugzilla stuff is complete crackpot | 12:04 |
| jbailey | T-Bone: We use the same glibc as Debian pretty much, down to the same compiler. | 12:04 |
| T-Bone | hmm | 12:04 |
| jbailey | T-Bone: If you're seeing a difference between Debian Sid/Sarge and Hoary there, I'd suspect our kernel. | 12:04 |
| T-Bone | jbailey: i just tried a pristine kernel from -mm series, had the bug. | 12:04 |
| jbailey | Fall back to 2.6.8 maybe? | 12:05 |
| T-Bone | so it's either not the kernel or not our kernel | 12:05 |
| T-Bone | could try this | 12:05 |
| jbailey | Just thinking that we've moved beyond even in releases. | 12:05 |
| T-Bone | gentoo is running 2.6.10. And you know how build intensive that shit is. Never got any build kill there... | 12:06 |
| T-Bone | but that's a g4 cpu | 12:06 |
| T-Bone | and UP | 12:06 |
| jbailey | Mm, that's true. Do try the Debian kernel package, anyway. | 12:06 |
| jbailey | It's a a quick enough test. | 12:06 |
| T-Bone | i built mplayer under debian pretty fine. I can try loop building glibc/gcc/kernel to check tho | 12:06 |
| jbailey | T-Bone: You should be able to also load the Debian glibc onto Ubuntu without any hiccups. | 12:07 |
| mxpxpod | jbailey: welp, I'll take a look at the icon cache thing tonite and see if I can see what's wrong... where does gtk+ read the caches? | 12:07 |
| jbailey | mxpxpod: ISTR that the file is called gtk-icon-cache.c =) | 12:07 |
| mxpxpod | :P | 12:07 |
| mxpxpod | I just saw that | 12:07 |
| T-Bone | jbailey: fwiw, if you wanna hang out, we've setup a #ubuntu-kernel irc chan for us kernel crackheads ;) | 12:07 |
| jbailey | I remember it took me 30 seconds to find it and 2 minutes to read the code. =) | 12:07 |
| T-Bone | jbailey: i wonder if building inside a chroot would be a good enough test | 12:08 |
| T-Bone | a debian chroot, that is | 12:08 |
| mxpxpod | gotta go | 12:08 |
| jbailey | T-Bone: I don't know enough about the mechanics of a chroot on Linux. | 12:08 |
| T-Bone | it should be enough to isolate glibc | 12:09 |
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| jbailey | Cool. Remind me, chroot is a syscall, right? Not an emulation through the chroot program? | 12:09 |
| T-Bone | err | 12:10 |
| T-Bone | i'm talking about chrooting myself into a sid jail from my hoary system | 12:10 |
| T-Bone | so that i'd end up using a sid environment while running the hoary kernel | 12:11 |
| T-Bone | if it goes fine, then the kernel is not to blame | 12:11 |
| T-Bone | and thus, most likely the glibc ;) | 12:11 |
| T-Bone | if it goes wrong, it proves nothing :) | 12:11 |
| jbailey | True. I think replacing your kernel and rebooting might be less work than that. =) | 12:12 |
| T-Bone | jbailey: actually i have a chroot ready :) | 12:12 |
| T-Bone | fired a make -j4 loop. Waitandsee | 12:13 |
| luis_ | hrm | 12:13 |
| luis_ | oh, nm | 12:14 |
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| lamont | gpg: Note: This key has expired! | 12:28 |
| lamont | bad seb128 | 12:28 |
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| sid77 | ciao | 01:03 |
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| Riddell | if I have a package version 1.2beta3-0ubuntu1 what do I call the final version? dpkg seems to think 1.2-0ubuntu1 is a downgrade | 01:04 |
| crimsun_ | it is | 01:05 |
| crimsun_ | (a downgrade) | 01:05 |
| crimsun_ | calc suggested doing betas and rcs as, for instance, 1.2~beta3-foo | 01:06 |
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| zul | hey | 01:06 |
| crimsun_ | lo | 01:06 |
| Riddell | hmm, do I need to up the epoc again? | 01:07 |
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| crimsun_ | that's what I'd do in the last case | 01:07 |
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| zul | mavo: i just sent you the signed coc | 01:14 |
| zul | bleah..mako i just sent you the signed coc | 01:16 |
| zul | sorry my bad | 01:16 |
| mako | zul: cool | 01:17 |
| luis_ | tseng: what is the sources.list line for your f-spot and muine packages? (and is there anything else in there?) | 01:21 |
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| zul | hey jdub | 01:26 |
| rburton | yo yo jdub | 01:27 |
| rburton | jdub: new g-a-i in ubuntu!!! :) | 01:27 |
| luis_ | g-a-i? | 01:35 |
| Mitario | hi jdub | 01:35 |
| jdub | morning | 01:36 |
| === jdub is very grumpy atm | ||
| zul | how come? | 01:37 |
| jdub | dunno | 01:37 |
| ajmitch | morning jdub | 01:37 |
| jdub | luis_: gnome-app-install, first sweep at doing a really usefully user-centric application installer | 01:38 |
| luis_ | ah, nice | 01:38 |
| ajmitch | luis_: uploading muine & gtk# for tseng in a few min | 01:38 |
| Mitario | wow, buildd was fast? michael uploaded a source package about one hour ago | 01:38 |
| luis_ | ajmitch: ah, cool | 01:38 |
| luis_ | any idea about f-spot? | 01:38 |
| ajmitch | not as yet | 01:39 |
| jdub | Mitario: buildds are super speedy and run every half hour :) | 01:39 |
| Mitario | jdub, ahh nice :) | 01:39 |
| luis_ | (this is probably the last liveCD I can build for a bit over a week) | 01:39 |
| luis_ | hrm | 01:39 |
| jdub | luis_: mako tells me you guys hooked up at lwe | 01:39 |
| ajmitch | he said he packaged it this morning | 01:39 |
| luis_ | is there a way to do something like 'dpkg -i http://www.getsweaaa.com/~tseng/f-spot/f-spot_0.0.8-1_i386.deb' | 01:39 |
| ari | jdub: it was hot | 01:39 |
| luis_ | jdub: yeah, we talked for a bit, not long enough :) | 01:39 |
| jdub | luis_: wget... ;) | 01:39 |
| luis_ | jdub: blah, rpm -ivh and rug in can both take URIs ;) | 01:39 |
| jdub | yeah, we'll fix apt to do that soon | 01:40 |
| jdub | apt-get install <deb> and apt-get install <deb-uri> | 01:40 |
| jdub | so we can completely ignore dpkg :-) | 01:40 |
| Mitario | jdub, btw, can you do something for me? modifying my pgo feed | 01:40 |
| jdub | (that said, it could be smartpm) | 01:40 |
| jdub | Mitario: got your mail | 01:41 |
| Mitario | ok great | 01:41 |
| Mitario | :) | 01:41 |
| Mitario | nm me then | 01:41 |
| rburton | luis_: g-a-i kicks arse if i do say so myself | 01:41 |
| rburton | even more so with mvo's latest patch | 01:41 |
| jdub | rburton: good stuff | 01:42 |
| jdub | ? | 01:42 |
| rburton | jdub: runs synaptic in a thread so the UI doesn't die and embeds the synaptic progress window | 01:42 |
| Mitario | rburton, do you think we can integrate your neat .desktop file app icon fetch thingy in update-manager? | 01:42 |
| jdub | rburton: haha, rad | 01:43 |
| rburton | Mitario: jdub was writing that | 01:43 |
| mako | jdub: yeah we had a good time | 01:43 |
| rburton | jdub: another new release with that and new desktop files next week i guess | 01:43 |
| mako | jdub: i had a good time with the host of the gnome guys actually | 01:43 |
| jdub | rburton: yeah, i'll ship a data package probably over the weekend | 01:43 |
| rburton | jdub: that would totally rock | 01:44 |
| jdub | Mitario: hrm | 01:46 |
| jdub | Mitario: that gets kinda backwards on us | 01:46 |
| jdub | Mitario: although it's probably doable | 01:46 |
| Mitario | jdub, how do you mean? | 01:46 |
| Mitario | well, i don't think it's nescesairy or something :) it would just look cool | 01:47 |
| jdub | Mitario: you're coming from binary/source names, and want to get .desktop metadata; g-a-i has .desktop metadata and wants binary names (we just add a field in the .desktop file) | 01:47 |
| jdub | Mitario: just gotta figure out how to do it ;) | 01:47 |
| jdub | and it doesn't cover libraries and so on | 01:47 |
| Mitario | no that's allright.. | 01:47 |
| Mitario | just an app icon for the apps that g-a-i also shows | 01:48 |
| jdub | that said, it would be nice to have update-manager only show applications (and libraries only on checkbox, etc) | 01:48 |
| Mitario | some sort of filters you mean? | 01:48 |
| Mitario | my head's a bit slow atm, probably have to go to bed ;) | 01:49 |
| jdub | ;-) | 01:49 |
| jdub | nah, something to think about for hoary+1 anyway :) | 01:49 |
| Mitario | hehe ok :) | 01:49 |
| Mitario | all fine by me | 01:49 |
| rburton | jdub: i want to get g-a-i ready for hoary so keep in touch if anything needs to be done | 01:50 |
| rburton | i'm off to bed | 01:50 |
| Mitario | brb need to restart X | 01:52 |
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| Mitario | back | 01:56 |
| Mitario | ok, this is just like: WOW, I configured X to use hardware accel, started xcompmgr | 01:56 |
| Mitario | it almost looks the same like NLD's flash-hack demo now :) | 01:57 |
| HrdwrBoB | and it runs so very, very slow | 01:58 |
| ajmitch | HrdwrBoB: depending on your hardware, ran fast enough for me | 01:59 |
| Mitario | HrdwrBoB, its so fast for me | 01:59 |
| Mitario | I have an nvidia card with some options from that gnomedesktop.org article | 01:59 |
| Mitario | opening menus with fades + shadows is normal speed | 01:59 |
| HrdwrBoB | ajmitch: I tried it on a 440mx and it made a very large performance difference | 02:00 |
| Mitario | the only comment I have, is that my nautilus icons fall behind my panel :) and I can slide windows over my panel | 02:02 |
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| ari | i wonder how hard it would be to re-port xchat's perl plugin support to gaim | 02:10 |
| ari | and python | 02:10 |
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| robertj | has there been general funkyness reporting on ppc recently? | 02:59 |
| T-Bone | robertj: what kind? | 02:59 |
| ari | i got a really weird bug report on gaim from ppc | 02:59 |
| T-Bone | icons? SIGILL? | 02:59 |
| robertj | icons | 02:59 |
| T-Bone | known bug | 03:00 |
| robertj | also I have a supicion that xorg-driver-synaptics doesnt take over for xfree86's synaptics | 03:00 |
| daniels | er, it does | 03:02 |
| robertj | daniels: it just removed it and I just installed xorg-driver-synaptics | 03:03 |
| robertj | let me kill X and see if this is fixed | 03:03 |
| robertj | brb | 03:03 |
| mjg59 | sivang: So everything works now? | 03:04 |
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| tritium | mjg59, sivang and I got his latitude 8200 suspending/resuming today with nvidia module using NvAGP | 03:07 |
| robertj | daniels: it removed it when I installed xorg and I had to reinstall it | 03:07 |
| mjg59 | tritium: Ah, ok | 03:08 |
| mjg59 | Is that the default? | 03:08 |
| daniels | robertj: so don't uninstall ubuntu-desktop | 03:08 |
| tritium | mjg59, are you asking me | 03:08 |
| mjg59 | tritium: Yeah | 03:09 |
| robertj | hrmm, wadda ya know, I didn't notice | 03:09 |
| tritium | mjg59, no, if you don't blacklist intel_agp, agpgart will load, despite your xorg.conf setting | 03:09 |
| robertj | thanks, sorry about that | 03:09 |
| tritium | mjg59, also, had to pass module params for nvidia and disable video posting | 03:09 |
| mjg59 | tritium: Argh | 03:10 |
| mjg59 | I've no nvidia stuff to test this on, sadly (thankfully?) | 03:11 |
| mjg59 | It'd be nice if it could Just Work, but it sounds like it'd be a mess to integrate | 03:11 |
| tritium | mjg59, and, even though my GeForce4 440 Go doesn't support SBA, this is the module param combination I need to use: mjg59, in /etc/modules: nvidia NVreg_EnableAGPFW=1 NVreg_EnableAGPSBA=1 | 03:11 |
| daniels | i have nvidia at hand, but unfortunately not laptops | 03:11 |
| tritium | otherwise, it won't seem to work | 03:11 |
| tritium | mjg59, send any tests to me, if you like | 03:12 |
| mjg59 | tritium: But it works fine with nv? | 03:12 |
| tritium | mjg59, actually, I haven't really used with nv | 03:12 |
| tritium | mjg59, I do have one strange problem. I have to press power button 2X to resume | 03:13 |
| tritium | haven't figured that one out yet | 03:13 |
| mjg59 | tritium: Yeah, you said. I have no idea whatsoever what could be causing that. | 03:13 |
| tritium | Nor I. Anyway, if you want me to test things out, let me know. | 03:13 |
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| mjg59 | Will do | 03:14 |
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| tritium | cool | 03:14 |
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| tritium | mjg59, so what packages am I missing to have suspend an option on logout. I have powermanagement-interface | 03:17 |
| Mitario | guys, what do you think as something like http://geeklog.eyesopened.nl/wp-content/updatealert.png as a 'U have software updates' systray icon? | 03:18 |
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| mjg59 | tritium: The code doesn't seem to be written yet | 03:19 |
| tritium | mjg59, okay, thanks | 03:19 |
| tseng | luis_: sorry, id gone to dinner | 03:19 |
| robertj | Mitario: I would think a red background would be better | 03:19 |
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| Mitario | robertj, what do you mean? | 03:20 |
| Mitario | robertj, i mean, isn't this already red? | 03:20 |
| tseng | luis_: deb http://www.getsweaaa.com/~tseng/muine ./ | 03:20 |
| tseng | luis_: f-spot doesnt have a Packages.gz | 03:20 |
| robertj | Mitario: that icon looks black to me | 03:20 |
| tseng | luis_: i can make you one if you are still around. | 03:21 |
| Mitario | robertj, well i guess it's pretty darkish yeah :) | 03:21 |
| Mitario | robertj, so you think it should be somewhat brighter? | 03:21 |
| robertj | it should make your eyes burn | 03:21 |
| tseng | ajmitch: oh snap.. muine is accepted before gtk# | 03:21 |
| robertj | throbbing would be best | 03:21 |
| Mitario | hehe ;) | 03:22 |
| tseng | ajmitch: it might get stuck in dep wait | 03:22 |
| tseng | ajmitch: was gtk# rejected, or not upped yet? | 03:23 |
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| luis_ | tseng: nah, if it is going to get into universe within the next... well, say, next 7-8 days, don't bother | 03:29 |
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| tseng | luis_: f-spot was packaged also by the debian maintainer im told. sounds like we'll have that within that time frame hopefully | 03:29 |
| tseng | luis_: you asked about other goodies.. my other package there was tomboy and is now in the archive proper | 03:30 |
| tseng | so no, nothing else. | 03:30 |
| tseng | some older stuff built against warty | 03:30 |
| ajmitch | tseng: gtk# will be in NEW | 03:32 |
| ajmitch | I uploaded them both at the same time | 03:32 |
| luis_ | tseng: cool, thanks | 03:32 |
| ajmitch | only change I made was changing the distribution in debian/changelog to hoary | 03:32 |
| tseng | right.. did you get an accepted mail for gtk#? | 03:33 |
| ajmitch | no, but I don't get any mail when I upload normally :) | 03:33 |
| === ajmitch checks | ||
| tseng | it goes to hoary-changes | 03:33 |
| ajmitch | yeah | 03:34 |
| Mitario | robertj, still here? | 03:35 |
| ajmitch | I had issues uploading it the first time, possilby a partial .orig.tar.gz was uploaded, 2nd time it uploaded with no complaints | 03:35 |
| Mitario | ok can anyone else critisize this one? :) http://www.geeklog.eyesopend.nl/wp-content/softupd2.png? | 03:37 |
| ari | Mitario: link no work | 03:38 |
| Mitario | ehh sorry http://www.geeklog.eyesopened.nl/wp-content/softupd2.png | 03:39 |
| jdub | Mitario: our icon designer is going to do Human icons for those, btw. | 03:39 |
| Mitario | oooh | 03:39 |
| Mitario | ok, nice :) | 03:39 |
| jdub | Mitario: might be worth using one of the gnome ones by default though | 03:39 |
| tseng | Mitario: eh that second one doesnt seem working either here. | 03:39 |
| Mitario | yeah, but which one | 03:39 |
| jdub | tseng: strip the www | 03:39 |
| Mitario | http://geeklog.eyesopened.nl/wp-content/softupd2.png | 03:39 |
| Mitario | right, i really should go to bed | 03:39 |
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| daniels | jdub: word | 03:40 |
| tseng | heh. | 03:40 |
| Mitario | hmm, really? ;) | 03:40 |
| Mitario | i'm awake 20h now :/ | 03:40 |
| jdub | 11:49 < Mitario> my head's a bit slow atm, probably have to go to bed ;) | 03:40 |
| jdub | and it's 13:40 now ;) | 03:40 |
| Mitario | oh well, :p | 03:40 |
| Mitario | jdub, is there a schedule for the icons to 'officially' use them as default icon theme? | 03:41 |
| jdub | next week or so | 03:44 |
| Mitario | ahh ok, nice :) | 03:44 |
| Mitario | will it have an 'you have software updates' icon? | 03:44 |
| Mitario | a* | 03:44 |
| jdub | the first drop might not | 03:45 |
| jdub | but we will have one :) | 03:45 |
| Mitario | ok | 03:45 |
| Mitario | ok great :) | 03:45 |
| Mitario | well, current update-notifier icon is also custom | 03:46 |
| Mitario | michael suggested to design a new icon if i really had nothing to do anymore :) | 03:46 |
| Mitario | and because i'm lazy right now.. and tired, and broke | 03:46 |
| jdub | hrm | 03:50 |
| jdub | windows is weird | 03:50 |
| tseng | ajmitch: I guess we'll figure it out tommorow. thanks | 04:00 |
| ajmitch | yeah, sorry about that | 04:00 |
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| Mitario | woo, finally fixed the bug | 04:03 |
| Mitario | now i'm going to bed, good night/day everyone! | 04:04 |
| ajmitch | night Mitario | 04:04 |
| tseng | night. | 04:04 |
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| luis_ | oh, hrm | 04:07 |
| luis_ | can you not upload files to the ubuntu wiki? | 04:08 |
| jdub | hrm | 04:13 |
| jdub | dunno | 04:13 |
| jdub | no, i think you can | 04:13 |
| luis_ | I couldn't find a link for it | 04:14 |
| jdub | you'll have to search for a link somewhere, might be on the edit page page | 04:14 |
| luis_ | but maybe I was just failing to grok something obvious | 04:14 |
| luis_ | yet again | 04:14 |
| jdub | no | 04:14 |
| luis_ | ah | 04:14 |
| jdub | there is nothing obvious about zwiki | 04:14 |
| jdub | well | 04:14 |
| jdub | apart from the huge mole | 04:14 |
| jdub | so i can't figure out how to make windows output via the spdif | 04:16 |
| luis_ | prayer | 04:16 |
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| jdub | btw luis_, we're having a party tonight, come over | 04:17 |
| luis_ | haha | 04:17 |
| luis_ | sure | 04:17 |
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| daniels | jdub: can you send some pizza around? | 04:18 |
| luis_ | well, blah, my script is not as loveydovey as I'd hoped | 04:18 |
| jdub | btw, are you getting spammed from FOSSTEC? | 04:18 |
| luis_ | I am not | 04:19 |
| luis_ | at least not that I've noticed | 04:19 |
| luis_ | blah, blam seems to have grabbed my keyboard and not let go | 04:21 |
| jdub | aha! worked it out | 04:21 |
| jdub | oof | 04:22 |
| jdub | sounds good | 04:22 |
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| lamont | daniels: you around? | 05:38 |
| lamont | oh! jdub | 05:38 |
| daniels | lamont: word | 05:40 |
| lamont | daniels: I have a patch for you for xresprobe - wanna see it? | 05:41 |
| daniels | lamont: fo'sho | 05:41 |
| lamont | daniel.stone@u.c? | 05:41 |
| daniels | yahy | 05:41 |
| daniels | also, yah | 05:41 |
| lamont | makes it into if i386 else if ppc else ... | 05:42 |
| daniels | cool | 05:42 |
| lamont | Makefile:21: *** extraneous `endif'. Stop. | 05:43 |
| lamont | well. that was the intent anyway... | 05:43 |
| lamont | gimme a minute | 05:43 |
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| lamont | daniels: better patch mailed - actually works on at least 2 architectures. :-) | 05:51 |
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| jdub | bad connection fu today | 07:41 |
| dilinger | hrm | 08:04 |
| dilinger | it's another jdub | 08:04 |
| dilinger | # Signed-off-by: Josh Boyer <jdub@us.ibm.com> | 08:05 |
| jdub | spoken to him before, too :-) | 08:06 |
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| pitti | Morning folks | 10:20 |
| lifeless | daniels: ping | 10:20 |
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| lifeless | someone tell daniels xorg preconf is fuxked | 10:32 |
| lifeless | I mean really, I've been asked the 'do you want hw detection' question like 15 times now. | 10:36 |
| lifeless | *I've answerd already, now go away kthnxbye* | 10:36 |
| lifeless | lamont: ping | 10:58 |
| lifeless | - want a machine-hard-lokcup bug ? | 10:59 |
| lifeless | or would you rather I don't share ? | 10:59 |
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| da_bon_bon | hi all. | 11:06 |
| da_bon_bon | is gnome-panel maintainer here ? | 11:06 |
| lifeless | thatd be seb128, who isn't | 11:08 |
| da_bon_bon | ah, i wanted to make a reuest | 11:08 |
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| minghua | Hi, I have a question about mp3 support in Ubuntu | 11:33 |
| minghua | the FAQ says mp3 is not supported due to patent issues | 11:34 |
| minghua | and indeed gstreamer0.8-mad is not included in main (I suppose for exactly this reason) | 11:34 |
| minghua | but on the other hand python-hip is included | 11:35 |
| minghua | which can decode mp3 using libmp3hip0 (which comes from lame) | 11:35 |
| minghua | I am perfectly happy with including libmp3hip0 | 11:36 |
| minghua | I am using it to listen to my mp3s now | 11:36 |
| minghua | but I am just curious about the inconsistency here | 11:36 |
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| minghua | if we can include libmp3hip0, when not just have gstreamer0.8-mad so that we can listen do mp3s from rhythmbox? | 11:37 |
| minghua | by the way this is about warty, I haven't looked at hoary yet | 11:38 |
| pitti | minghua: hmm, that's a good discovery | 11:49 |
| pitti | minghua: I think this deserves to be discussed on the mailing list | 11:49 |
| minghua | pitti: are you subscribed to ubuntu-devel? | 11:50 |
| pitti | minghua: of course :-) | 11:51 |
| minghua | if yes, would you please send one mail for me? | 11:51 |
| pitti | minghua: yes, I added it to my todo list | 11:51 |
| minghua | I am not subscribed, and last time I sent a mail, it took about two weeks to pass moderation | 11:51 |
| minghua | thanks. :-) | 11:51 |
| pitti | minghua: send | 11:58 |
| pitti | minghua: thanks a lot | 11:58 |
| minghua | pitti: Thank you. I am probably going to subscribe ubuntu-devel soon. :-) | 11:59 |
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| pitti | Morning seb128 | 12:13 |
| seb128 | hey | 12:13 |
| seb128 | pitti: the jail has a good internet connection ? | 12:14 |
| seb128 | :) | 12:14 |
| pitti | seb128: I hope so | 12:14 |
| pitti | seb128: to download mp3 w4r3z :-) | 12:14 |
| pitti | hehe | 12:14 |
| seb128 | :) | 12:14 |
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| lifeless | pitti: you're doing kernel stuff now rightr ? | 12:32 |
| pitti | lifeless: oh, I didn't know that up to now :-) | 12:32 |
| lifeless | oh, I'm confused then :) | 12:32 |
| pitti | lifeless: zul and lamont are core members of the kernel team | 12:32 |
| lifeless | I know lamont is .. ah | 12:32 |
| pitti | lifeless: I only collect vulnerabilities :-) | 12:32 |
| lifeless | zul ping ? | 12:33 |
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| lifeless | at least you aren't a crack dealer :) | 12:34 |
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| T-Bone | lifeless: what about kernel? | 12:37 |
| === T-Bone has a few more patches to merge in | ||
| lifeless | fuse-source needs a patch, fabbione wanted feedback on it, this was while he was handing over to the kernel team. | 12:38 |
| T-Bone | pitti: btw, dunno if lamont told you about #ubuntu-kernel :) | 12:38 |
| lifeless | also the module control file incorrectly depends on kernel-image not linux-image | 12:38 |
| pitti | T-Bone: no, indeed not. thanks | 12:38 |
| T-Bone | pitti: well then now you know :) | 12:38 |
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| pitti | lifeless: btw, if 2.6.11 hangs, boot it with "noinotify" | 12:50 |
| pitti | lifeless: that helped for me | 12:50 |
| pitti | lifeless: 2.6.11 now ships fuse by default? good crack :-) | 12:51 |
| lifeless | during the gnome-login is your hang ? | 12:51 |
| pitti | lifeless: exactly | 12:51 |
| pitti | lifeless: inotify is the culprit | 12:51 |
| lifeless | pitti - no, apt-get install fuse-source + a small aptch | 12:51 |
| pitti | lifeless: fabbione added a kernel parameter "noinotify" to disable it | 12:51 |
| lifeless | pitti: thanks. someone should add that to the bug :) | 12:51 |
| pitti | lifeless: hmm, jdub once told me that fuse will eventually be merged upstream | 12:51 |
| Treenaks | pitti: fuse is in some -mm1 patch for the 2.6.11rc series though | 12:52 |
| pitti | lifeless: its a s3kr3t :-) | 12:52 |
| lifeless | yes | 12:52 |
| pitti | lifeless: no, sersiously, it should be added | 12:52 |
| lifeless | pitti (was answering treenaks) | 12:52 |
| lifeless | cool. fuse working. | 12:53 |
| lifeless | heh, that hangs it though :[ | 12:55 |
| lifeless | it ain't good at reentrancy | 12:55 |
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| Mitario | hi everyone | 01:02 |
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| pitti | seb128: I dist-upgraded and now most of my icons are gone | 01:36 |
| pitti | seb128: known bug? | 01:37 |
| seb128 | pitti: ppc ? | 01:37 |
| pitti | seb128: indeed | 01:37 |
| seb128 | iz gtk bug | 01:37 |
| tseng | seb128: arg, i lost another build-dep to control.in on f-spot. my bad | 01:37 |
| pitti | seb128: I did not upgrade this for maybe two weeks | 01:37 |
| seb128 | sudo rm -f /usr/share/icons/*/icon-theme.cache | 01:37 |
| pitti | and relogin? | 01:38 |
| seb128 | killall nautilus | 01:38 |
| seb128 | just restart the apps, nautilus is the most obvious | 01:38 |
| pitti | gnome-panel, I suppose | 01:38 |
| seb128 | if you have the issue on the panel yep | 01:38 |
| pitti | yay, they are back | 01:38 |
| pitti | seb128: thanks, dude | 01:38 |
| seb128 | tseng: could you make a 0ubuntu2 ? :) | 01:38 |
| seb128 | pitti: np | 01:38 |
| tseng | seb128: already did. | 01:38 |
| seb128 | tseng: same location ? | 01:39 |
| pitti | seb128: how can an arch-all thing like icons be ppc-specific? | 01:39 |
| tseng | seb128: not uploaded yet. 2 mins | 01:39 |
| seb128 | pitti: that's the icon cache | 01:39 |
| seb128 | pitti: probably and endian issue | 01:39 |
| seb128 | s/and/an/ | 01:39 |
| pitti | hmm | 01:40 |
| seb128 | pitti: http://bugs.debian.org/295815 | 01:40 |
| pitti | seb128: btw, "cache" sounds like it should live under /var/cache, not /usr | 01:40 |
| pitti | seb128: will that break with a r/o /usr? | 01:41 |
| seb128 | I've not tried | 01:41 |
| T-Bone | jbailey suspespected an endianness/mmap issue | 01:41 |
| seb128 | possible | 01:41 |
| seb128 | gtk-update-icon-cache /dir/to/cache | 01:41 |
| seb128 | to create a cache for a dir | 01:41 |
| seb128 | that's what is called in the postinsts | 01:42 |
| tseng | seb128: 0ubuntu2 in the same place. | 01:42 |
| seb128 | tseng: thanks! | 01:43 |
| tseng | thank you. | 01:43 |
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| seb128 | :) | 01:43 |
| tseng | ajmitch: no sign of gtk-sharp-unstable yet. | 01:44 |
| tseng | ajmitch: if you dont have a rejected mail we should ask around | 01:45 |
| seb128 | is that a new package ? | 01:45 |
| tseng | yep. | 01:45 |
| tseng | do they need extra work? | 01:45 |
| seb128 | need 2 approvals | 01:45 |
| seb128 | one before build | 01:46 |
| seb128 | and one before getting in the archive | 01:46 |
| tseng | hm, oh =/ | 01:46 |
| seb128 | when have you uploaded it ? | 01:46 |
| tseng | aj uploaded for me last night my time | 01:46 |
| tseng | its universe and only used by muine, approval should be no problem. | 01:47 |
| seb128 | yeah | 01:47 |
| seb128 | probably waiting on elmo | 01:47 |
| tseng | I'd not asked anyones permission other than the debian maint. again.. universe | 01:48 |
| tseng | appologies if I missed some proceedure. | 01:48 |
| seb128 | no, don't worry | 01:48 |
| seb128 | all the new packages go to NEW | 01:49 |
| seb128 | and wait for a ftpmaster approval | 01:49 |
| seb128 | in debian or ubuntu main or universe | 01:49 |
| seb128 | for everybody | 01:49 |
| tseng | fair enough. | 01:50 |
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| azeem | did you guys consider reintroducing autoconf-doc into the autoconf package? | 01:53 |
| winkle | tseng: you did tomboy right? it crashes when trying to make notes here, ideas? | 01:53 |
| tseng | winkle: hm, it does now here as well. | 01:53 |
| tseng | winkle: thats quite odd, wonder whats changed | 01:54 |
| tseng | i doubt it needs rebuilt against a new libpanel-applet.. | 01:54 |
| seb128 | tomboy doesn't work for some time here | 01:56 |
| tseng | winkle: hm it needs rebuilt against *some* lib. I built again from source and is working | 01:56 |
| tseng | we just need a no-change revision to get built with the latest deps I believe | 01:56 |
| winkle | tseng: check, hm, I seem to recall some -cil package being upgraded... | 01:57 |
| tseng | winkle: gtk-sharp 1.0.4 yes. | 01:57 |
| tseng | but thats a minor release | 01:57 |
| tseng | on a stable branch | 01:57 |
| winkle | ok | 01:57 |
| tseng | winkle: thanks for pointing this out, I dont use tomboy often | 02:00 |
| winkle | tseng: np, first time I tried it :P | 02:01 |
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| tseng | i love how mono is impossible to strace | 02:03 |
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| da_bon_bon | hi all | 02:04 |
| da_bon_bon | seb128: here ? | 02:04 |
| da_bon_bon | is the gnome-panel maintainer here, i want to make a small request ? | 02:04 |
| seb128 | afternoon | 02:05 |
| da_bon_bon | seb128: evening :) | 02:05 |
| da_bon_bon | seb128: i know that people always demand rebuilds, but can i just ask when is the next rebuild scheduled for ? | 02:05 |
| seb128 | rebuild for what ? | 02:06 |
| da_bon_bon | gnome-panel | 02:06 |
| seb128 | a rebuild doesn't change anything | 02:06 |
| seb128 | you mean "update" ? | 02:06 |
| seb128 | "release" ? | 02:06 |
| da_bon_bon | due to a nasty bug i cannot work properly. i reported on bugzilla of gnome | 02:06 |
| da_bon_bon | the bug was fixed in cvs | 02:07 |
| seb128 | what bug ? | 02:07 |
| da_bon_bon | thats why i am curious | 02:07 |
| da_bon_bon | wait a sec | 02:07 |
| seb128 | the package is update on upstream releases | 02:07 |
| seb128 | or to include patches | 02:07 |
| da_bon_bon | 167478 | 02:07 |
| da_bon_bon | bug no. 167478 on gnome bugzilla | 02:07 |
| tseng | da_bon_bon: the next release is due by Feb 28th, as you can see at http://gnome.org/start/2.9/ | 02:07 |
| da_bon_bon | tseng: sorry, mea culpa :) | 02:08 |
| tseng | da_bon_bon: if you can get a patch from cvs, and prove why its a major bug, it might get fixed sooner | 02:08 |
| da_bon_bon | i thought that ubuntu people compile every night from cvs.. | 02:08 |
| da_bon_bon | am i wrong ? | 02:08 |
| tseng | heh, nope :P | 02:08 |
| da_bon_bon | then ? | 02:08 |
| seb128 | da_bon_bon: yep you are | 02:08 |
| tseng | we go by the same 2.9.x prereleases as everyone else gets. plus patches | 02:09 |
| seb128 | da_bon_bon: we package upstream releases | 02:09 |
| seb128 | and include patches for some stuff | 02:09 |
| da_bon_bon | seb128: if i am right, then is it not fixed or some other problem ? | 02:09 |
| seb128 | it's fixed in the CVS | 02:09 |
| seb128 | but there is no new release since then | 02:09 |
| da_bon_bon | ok, so u dont compile from cvs ? | 02:09 |
| seb128 | next one is planned for 28th feb as said by tseng | 02:09 |
| seb128 | no | 02:09 |
| da_bon_bon | oh, sorry, i didnt know. | 02:10 |
| da_bon_bon | sorry for the trouble | 02:10 |
| seb128 | that would be a lot of work to package every day every module | 02:10 |
| da_bon_bon | ok.. so i cant add stuff to gnome panel until 29-30th of feb ? | 02:10 |
| da_bon_bon | also, how do i edit menus is hoary ? | 02:11 |
| seb128 | I can include a patch to the package | 02:11 |
| da_bon_bon | *in | 02:11 |
| seb128 | you don't | 02:11 |
| da_bon_bon | seb128: so, patching, but then how do i update it ? | 02:11 |
| da_bon_bon | i cant edit menus in hoary ? | 02:11 |
| seb128 | you can add .desktop file in ~/.local/share/applications/ | 02:11 |
| seb128 | look on /usr/share/applications/ | 02:11 |
| seb128 | right, there is no menu editor for GNOME 2.10 | 02:12 |
| da_bon_bon | :( | 02:12 |
| seb128 | they have changed the code to use the freedesktop format | 02:12 |
| seb128 | but nobody worked on a menu editor yet | 02:12 |
| da_bon_bon | but in nautilus, applications:/// doesnt work, so i needed to ask | 02:12 |
| seb128 | yeah, that's the 2.8 crappy system | 02:12 |
| da_bon_bon | ah, ok.. | 02:12 |
| seb128 | 2.10 is much better but that's a different code | 02:12 |
| seb128 | so this need to be rewritten | 02:13 |
| da_bon_bon | but not out until 19march :( | 02:13 |
| seb128 | and nobody has worked on it for the moment | 02:13 |
| da_bon_bon | ok.. | 02:13 |
| seb128 | for the patch, just update the gnome-panel package | 02:13 |
| da_bon_bon | so, the development team actually packages the software when a release is made ? | 02:13 |
| seb128 | I'll grab the patch from the CVS | 02:13 |
| seb128 | correct | 02:13 |
| da_bon_bon | seb128: thanks a lot... but then when do i update ? | 02:14 |
| seb128 | in 1 or 2 hours | 02:14 |
| da_bon_bon | ah, so it /is/ a critical bug ? | 02:14 |
| seb128 | no | 02:14 |
| da_bon_bon | ok.. | 02:14 |
| seb128 | I just do that so you can use your panel | 02:15 |
| da_bon_bon | thank you sooo much. | 02:15 |
| seb128 | no problem :) | 02:15 |
| da_bon_bon | but, say, if people like me go on increasing, doesnt your work increase ? for every bug fix people ask you to rebuild.. | 02:15 |
| da_bon_bon | :) | 02:15 |
| seb128 | there is not a lot of crasher | 02:16 |
| seb128 | you are the first to bug me about this one | 02:16 |
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| da_bon_bon | :) | 02:16 |
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| seb128 | da_bon_bon: panel patched uploaded. It should be in the archive in 1 hour. Let me know if that works and if you have a broken icon in the "add to panel" with it | 02:26 |
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| da_bon_bon | seb128: why the icon ? | 02:27 |
| seb128 | because that's probably what's crashing it now | 02:28 |
| seb128 | a broken icon | 02:28 |
| seb128 | maybe that's due a package | 02:28 |
| da_bon_bon | oh, i didnt realize that | 02:28 |
| da_bon_bon | i thought maybe a big bug or somethin | 02:28 |
| da_bon_bon | u there for the hour it will take to upload ? | 02:29 |
| seb128 | yep | 02:31 |
| da_bon_bon | ok' | 02:32 |
| da_bon_bon | so m i | 02:32 |
| da_bon_bon | can u explain why once u have uploaded it takes 'bout an hour, seb128 ? | 02:38 |
| seb128 | because it needs to be built | 02:39 |
| seb128 | and then it needs to be synced on the mirror | 02:39 |
| da_bon_bon | ok, so u dont build the binary on ur own pc ? | 02:39 |
| tseng | da_bon_bon: we dont upload the binaries. just a source package | 02:39 |
| seb128 | I do, but I upload only the sources | 02:39 |
| tseng | da_bon_bon: it gets built by a pbuilder. | 02:39 |
| da_bon_bon | whats a pbuilder ? | 02:39 |
| tseng | an automated builder daemon | 02:39 |
| seb128 | buildd | 02:40 |
| tseng | or that. | 02:40 |
| seb128 | (pbuilder is a package) | 02:40 |
| HiddenWolf | tseng: what's the hardware on the server-side? :) | 02:40 |
| da_bon_bon | oh ok.. what notions i had aobut maintainers, how wrong i was! | 02:40 |
| tseng | HiddenWolf: not sure specifically. its big and bad | 02:40 |
| da_bon_bon | the moment u upload, it starts building ? | 02:41 |
| HiddenWolf | da_bon_bon. I imagine it'll have a queue of packages that need to be build. :) | 02:41 |
| da_bon_bon | really ? | 02:42 |
| HiddenWolf | da_bon_bon: that server only has limited capacity. So it can't possibly do everything at once. | 02:42 |
| tseng | http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DeveloperResources | 02:42 |
| tseng | there is information on this sort of thing here. | 02:42 |
| tseng | read around | 02:42 |
| da_bon_bon | are uploaders notfiied when package is built ? | 02:43 |
| tseng | no, but they are notified when it is accepted | 02:43 |
| tseng | would you mind reading that page, esp BuildDaemons link? | 02:43 |
| tseng | i appreciate your curiosity but its getting a bit OT | 02:44 |
| da_bon_bon | ot ? | 02:44 |
| tseng | off topic. | 02:44 |
| da_bon_bon | sorry | 02:44 |
| tseng | thanks. | 02:45 |
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| seb128 | tseng: f-spot 0.0.8 in the archive | 02:52 |
| tseng | seb128: i see it :) | 02:52 |
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| seb128 | tseng: thanks :) | 02:52 |
| tseng | seb128: if you have another free moment today.. could you help me with a no-change upload of tomboy? | 02:53 |
| tseng | I really need to sort this gpg stuff soon =/ | 02:53 |
| seb128 | tseng: what's the issue with it ? | 02:55 |
| seb128 | when I start it here it hangs, no icon in the notify | 02:55 |
| seb128 | and it return to the console after some min | 02:55 |
| tseng | seb128: here it crashes when adding a note, same for winkle | 02:55 |
| tseng | rebuilding it solves the issue.. some lib inconsistancy | 02:55 |
| seb128 | k | 02:56 |
| tseng | seb128: are you using --tray-icon ? | 02:56 |
| seb128 | no | 02:56 |
| tseng | see, its an applet now | 02:56 |
| tseng | so you can a) add the applet, or b) call with --tray-icon | 02:56 |
| seb128 | it breaks working configuration | 02:56 |
| seb128 | iiiiiiiiiih | 02:56 |
| tseng | yeah =/ | 02:56 |
| tseng | upstream crack, calling it w/ no args should make an icon imo | 02:57 |
| seb128 | rebuilding now BTW :) | 02:57 |
| tseng | you see the crasher? | 02:57 |
| seb128 | yep | 02:57 |
| seb128 | #4 0xb74201ca in pthread_cond_timedwait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () | 02:58 |
| seb128 | from /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libpthread.so.0 | 02:58 |
| seb128 | #5 0xb7f3d256 in mono_method_full_name () from /usr/lib/libmono.so.0 | 02:58 |
| seb128 | #6 0xb7f4bee4 in mono_once () from /usr/lib/libmono.so.0 | 02:58 |
| seb128 | rebuild fix it | 02:58 |
| tseng | indeed | 02:58 |
| seb128 | ABI breakage in a minor update ? | 02:58 |
| tseng | looks that way =/ | 02:59 |
| seb128 | not nice | 02:59 |
| tseng | ive not seen anything else break. | 02:59 |
| seb128 | uploaded | 02:59 |
| tseng | you rock. | 02:59 |
| seb128 | thanks :) | 03:00 |
| seb128 | do you know if 1.1.4 is packaged somewhere ? | 03:00 |
| tseng | it is not | 03:00 |
| seb128 | it needs some packaging changes IIRC | 03:00 |
| tseng | if you saw the recent chat in here with miguel | 03:00 |
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| seb128 | nop | 03:00 |
| tseng | he raised several issues with the current debian mono policy | 03:00 |
| tseng | so updating to 1.1.4 will also involve a new policy | 03:00 |
| seb128 | k, so not for hoary ? | 03:01 |
| tseng | likely not | 03:01 |
| tseng | http://wiki.debian.net/?MonoDebianPlan for anyone interested. | 03:01 |
| seb128 | k | 03:02 |
| tseng | latexer@gentoo tells me that most apps are compatible with 1.1.4 from a non-packaging standpoint. he is working on fixing tomboy, believe thats the last | 03:02 |
| da_bon_bon | seb128: i need to go. will update later at night and will tell u when we next meet. thanks for the trouble :) | 03:03 |
| seb128 | da_bon_bon: k, later | 03:03 |
| da_bon_bon | seb128: later | 03:03 |
| tseng | im off as well, maybe for the rest of the day. | 03:04 |
| tseng | many thanks seb128 | 03:04 |
| seb128 | have a good afternoon :) | 03:04 |
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| seb128 | jdub: where have you seen the rawhide patch for the menus ? | 03:16 |
| jdub | seb128: saw seth's desktop sshots ;-) | 03:16 |
| jdub | seb128: perhaps ping him | 03:16 |
| seb128 | k | 03:16 |
| seb128 | because there is no patch in the current srpm | 03:16 |
| jdub | bum | 03:16 |
| seb128 | jdub: do you know if somebody is working on sabayon packaging ? I'm tempted to start it :p | 03:17 |
| jdub | :-) | 03:18 |
| jdub | haven't heard so far, no | 03:19 |
| seb128 | k | 03:20 |
| seb128 | it looks cool by reading planet :) | 03:20 |
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| seb128 | jdub: an user is asking if we are going to move nautilus-sendto to main or in the desktop. Already considered it ? | 03:28 |
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| da_bon_bon | seb128: here ? | 03:29 |
| seb128 | yep | 03:30 |
| da_bon_bon | works great now. thanks | 03:30 |
| seb128 | np | 03:30 |
| seb128 | do you have a screwed icon ? | 03:30 |
| da_bon_bon | where ? all icons are ok. | 03:31 |
| da_bon_bon | seb128: thanks, then cya later | 03:32 |
| jdub | seb128: yes, i think we should | 03:32 |
| seb128 | jdub: k. Should I mail -devel or something ? | 03:33 |
| jdub | seb128: i'll confirm and add it now ;) | 03:34 |
| seb128 | cool | 03:34 |
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| _d4vid | hi all | 03:47 |
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| jdub | seb128: blame lamont for no nautilus-sendto seed love atm ;) | 03:51 |
| seb128 | he has a lock on the seed again ? :) | 03:53 |
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| jdub | seb128: -r--r--r-- ;-) | 03:58 |
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| unifi | has anyone had ubuntu installation freeze up at setting up xserver? | 04:01 |
| unifi | because i have been trying for 2 days to install the thing and It wont budge past this point | 04:01 |
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| unifi | no one? | 04:08 |
| seb128 | nop | 04:09 |
| unifi | I guess I should just go back to using mepis | 04:12 |
| sivang | unifi: or you can go ask around #ubuntu, it's for user issues and trouble. | 04:13 |
| unifi | I have... they dont know either | 04:16 |
| unifi | I have been at this for 2 days now | 04:17 |
| unifi | have installed suse | 04:17 |
| unifi | mepis | 04:17 |
| unifi | even linspire on this thing trying to find a decent distro | 04:17 |
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| lifeless | seb128: you know about complete-hangs when you unmount something while a nautilus window is open on it ? | 04:39 |
| jdub | lifeless: boot with 'noinotify' | 04:40 |
| lifeless | seb128: just happened when I upgraded today, hadn't upgraded for a week or two before | 04:40 |
| lifeless | jdub: 2.6.10-3, never had this problem before, | 04:40 |
| jdub | lifeless: trust me. :) | 04:40 |
| lifeless | jdub: robert.collins@canonical.com--general/bazaar-fuser--0 for fuse module for bazaar | 04:41 |
| lifeless | jdub: pybaz is not packaged yet - but on ddaa.net | 04:41 |
| lifeless | jdub: ok, I trust you, when will inotify suck less ? | 04:41 |
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| seb128 | lifeless: as jdub said, inotify bug | 04:43 |
| jdub | lifeless: rml is working on a lockless version atm | 04:44 |
| jdub | lifeless: go to the odeon! :) | 04:44 |
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| zul | hey | 05:06 |
| jbailey | http://ubuntu.hands.com/releases/4.10/ has "Ubuntu 5.04 (Hoary Hedgehog) as its page title. =) | 05:10 |
| T-Bone | lol | 05:10 |
| lifeless | wireless rocks my world | 05:35 |
| lifeless | jdub: empire - the life fantastic | 05:35 |
| lamont | jdub: blame the root cause, not the trigger-man... :-) | 05:40 |
| lamont | seb128/jdub: seed archive repaired | 05:40 |
| seb128 | thanks lamont | 05:40 |
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| zul | is the person who is working on accessibility CD-ROM around? | 05:42 |
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| dholbach | hai | 05:43 |
| amu | sync | 05:44 |
| amu | argl :) | 05:44 |
| lamont | seb128: but I don't know what seed action jdub had planned. | 05:48 |
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| HWolf | Anyone here? | 05:49 |
| T-Bone | no | 05:49 |
| azeem | what a strange question | 05:49 |
| T-Bone | we're all zombies | 05:49 |
| Treenaks | 17:49 -!- Irssi: #ubuntu-devel: Total of 95 nicks | 05:50 |
| seb128 | lamont: addind nautilus-sendto to the desktop | 05:50 |
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| lifeless | jdub: http://www.advogato.org/person/robertc/diary.html?start=30 | 05:53 |
| HWolf | My internet connection is wacky. Is there anything in today's updates that could mess it up? | 05:54 |
| zul | have you tried calling your isp? | 05:56 |
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| Evaso | is there a way to regenerate fstab as on a new fresh installed ubuntu system? | 06:45 |
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| HiddenWolf | Evaso: why do you need to do that? | 06:49 |
| Evaso | i'm only guessing about it, i had touched an fstab and i want to automatically regenerate one as on installing ubuntu is there a way? | 06:50 |
| HiddenWolf | Evaso: not that I know of. But you can just manually edit it, right? | 06:51 |
| Evaso | HiddenWolf: Yes i could edit it, but if i want to return to the autmacally generated one of the install time can i do? | 06:52 |
| Evaso | HiddenWolf: with new kernel 2.6.10 the support of udf is introduced but i tink that packet cd are not autmatically mounted by pomunt i tink in hoary so i want to verify it without reinstalling | 06:53 |
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| sid77 | ciao | 06:55 |
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| dholbach | hai ogra | 07:47 |
| ogra | hi | 07:47 |
| dholbach | ogra, looks good, as far as i understand it | 07:51 |
| ogra | heh | 07:51 |
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| sdfsadf | hello | 08:08 |
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| === LarryT i got a problem with the last rc of hoary live cd : i get an error message about casper udeb :/ | ||
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| === LarryT i trying an seoncd download --> iso may be corruped | ||
| dholbach | bbl | 08:24 |
| LarryT | dholbach tobad :) | 08:25 |
| HiddenWolf | larryT: how about checking the md5sum first? | 08:26 |
| LarryT | :( i didn't :-[ | 08:26 |
| LarryT | that's the reason why i download it again ;) | 08:26 |
| LarryT | 25 minutes still :) | 08:27 |
| HiddenWolf | LarryT: Why do you delete the iso then? :-P | 08:27 |
| LarryT | because i thought about md5 after :-[ :) | 08:28 |
| HiddenWolf | LarrtT: sucks | 08:35 |
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| dholbach | re | 08:49 |
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| LarryT | Hi dholbach : how are you doing ? | 09:03 |
| dholbach | LarryT, thanks... fine :-) | 09:04 |
| dholbach | LarryT, what about you? | 09:04 |
| LarryT | about more than a week that i have no news from plosr :( | 09:04 |
| LarryT | south american is far away :) | 09:04 |
| LarryT | but connection must work there ;) | 09:04 |
| dholbach | LarryT, ah, now i recognize you | 09:05 |
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| === dholbach is a bit slow today | ||
| LarryT | :) | 09:05 |
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| LarryT | dholbach you better have "ein mass Bier , nicht war ? " :) | 09:05 |
| LarryT | "var" | 09:05 |
| LarryT | i have succesfully added gparted on the ubuntu live cd | 09:06 |
| dholbach | LarryT, wow - cool! | 09:06 |
| LarryT | dholbach :but i can't resize any kind of partition :( | 09:06 |
| LarryT | dholbach : dunno why | 09:06 |
| dholbach | LarryT, any debug messages in the console about it? | 09:07 |
| LarryT | dholbach nothing at all. I can resize fat32, create all kind of partition, but i can't resize neither ntfs nor ext :( | 09:07 |
| dholbach | LarryT, maybe they're mounted? | 09:08 |
| LarryT | dholbach : in that case, gparted shows a lock , isnit ? | 09:08 |
| dholbach | LarryT, try mount in the console | 09:09 |
| LarryT | dholbach, it seems one can resize a partition only if there is nothing after :( | 09:09 |
| LarryT | dholbach, yep gonna try : just a while ... | 09:09 |
| dholbach | LarryT, yes... i think there must be free space after a partition to resize it | 09:10 |
| LarryT | dholbach, you mean : even if you want to reduce it ? | 09:13 |
| LarryT | dholbach, ubuntu live larrycustom is running ... | 09:13 |
| dholbach | LarryT, i think i read something in some TODO somewhere | 09:13 |
| LarryT | dholbach, hmm ... | 09:14 |
| LarryT | dholbach, yep this time it works :) | 09:22 |
| LarryT | dholbach, do tou know hwoto resize or delete extended partition ? | 09:22 |
| LarryT | dholbach, it is free, absolutly blank :) | 09:23 |
| dholbach | LarryT, sorry, i don't know - is there nobody at irc://irc.gnome.org/gparted? :-) | 09:23 |
| LarryT | dholbach, no matter . :) cul8r :) | 09:23 |
| dholbach | LarryT, see you! | 09:24 |
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| srbaker | anyone know of a good todo list app for gnome? | 09:50 |
| srbaker | with check boxen? | 09:50 |
| ari | there's gtodo | 09:51 |
| ari | do you want hierarchical? | 09:51 |
| srbaker | doesn't need to be hierarchical, but it'd be nice | 09:51 |
| ari | there's devtodo, but that's console | 09:52 |
| srbaker | no, i want gnome. | 09:52 |
| T-Bone | evolution | 09:53 |
| T-Bone | check "Tasks" | 09:53 |
| srbaker | i don't use evolution for anything else. | 09:53 |
| T-Bone | so what's the problem? | 09:54 |
| srbaker | T-Bone, if evolution is too bloated and slow for me to read email in, i'm certainly not using it for only task list | 09:54 |
| T-Bone | srbaker: you want something nice looking with eye candy, nice integration, you use gnome, and you dare complain about evolution's slowlyness and bloatedness? :P | 09:55 |
| srbaker | T-Bone, it's not just the slowness and bloatedness that bothers me :P | 09:55 |
| srbaker | gtodo looks like what i want, i think | 09:55 |
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| jdub | configure:19318: Looking for Python version >= 2.3 | 10:11 |
| jdub | configure:19338: checking for python | 10:11 |
| jdub | configure:19356: found /usr/bin/python | 10:11 |
| jdub | configure:19368: result: /usr/bin/python | 10:11 |
| jdub | Traceback (most recent call last): | 10:11 |
| jdub | File "<string>", line 7, in ? File "/usr/lib/python2.4/string.py", line 403, in atoi | 10:12 |
| jdub | return _int(s, base) ValueError: invalid literal for int(): 1a0 | 10:12 |
| jdub | 10:12 | |
| dholbach | jdub, debian/control and configure.ac seem not to be in sync at all | 10:13 |
| jdub | hrm? | 10:14 |
| dholbach | oops | 10:15 |
| dholbach | i mistook something for something else ;-) | 10:15 |
| jdub | (this is flumotion 0.1.5, it has built previously, i'm just trying to get it to build again) | 10:16 |
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| dholbach | hi jani, long time no see ;-) | 10:29 |
| jani | hello :) | 10:32 |
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| dholbach | metalikop, cfv looks quite ok... i give it a test build | 10:34 |
| kent | It seems that Muin for a long time in Hoary will not install since its linked against libflac4, and libflac4 is not in Hoary. Does the Muin in Hoary need libflac4, or is it just a bug that it tries to compile to the wrong libflac? | 10:35 |
| metalikop | thx | 10:35 |
| dholbach | jani, metalikop, whiprush: i hope you understand, if i want to hear the opinion of another MOTU for the NEW packages, alright? | 10:35 |
| metalikop | sure | 10:35 |
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| jani | dholbach :absolutely | 10:37 |
| whiprush | rock | 10:38 |
| dholbach | whiprush, i didnt look at them yet... i just wanted to make clear, i wouldnt decide on them on my own | 10:38 |
| whiprush | no problem, I'm not in a rush | 10:38 |
| dholbach | metalikop, in cfv: Standards-Version: >=3.6.1 (you should throw out ">=") | 10:38 |
| metalikop | k | 10:39 |
| metalikop | dholbach: re-uploaded | 10:41 |
| dholbach | metalikop, sorry: one more thing, use Build-Depends-Indep instead of Build-Depends to get rid of the last lintian-warning ("lintian -ci cfv_1.18.1-0ubuntu1.dsc" will show you, why) | 10:43 |
| dholbach | metalikop, apart from that: nice work - another test build and you'll have another package to tick off :-) | 10:45 |
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| dholbach | metalikop, duplicity was fine - just uploaded it | 11:06 |
| dholbach | whiprush, i'll look after pysol, while metalikop gets cfv sorted | 11:06 |
| whiprush | ok. | 11:07 |
| whiprush | bbiab | 11:07 |
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| dholbach | whiprush, you have no .orig.tar.gz - pysol*.dsc tells me something about pysol_4.82.1-2ubuntu1.tar.gz - you should get pysol_4.82.1.orig.tar.gz and debuild -S again | 11:11 |
| sivang | hey all | 11:12 |
| sivang | hi dholbach | 11:12 |
| dholbach | hi sivan! | 11:12 |
| sivang | what's up?! ;-) | 11:12 |
| dholbach | sivang, reviewing packages ;-) | 11:12 |
| sivang | dholbach: an nice :) | 11:12 |
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| sid77 | ciao | 11:15 |
| dholbach | hi sid77 | 11:15 |
| metalikop | dholbach: new cfv up | 11:28 |
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| bulio | does Ubuntu have any support for Usb Dsl modems? | 11:33 |
| dholbach | metalikop, looks good | 11:33 |
| metalikop | great. | 11:36 |
| bulio | does Ubuntu have any support for Usb Dsl modems? | 11:36 |
| bulio | oops nvm | 11:36 |
| metalikop | duplicity is awaiting checkout as well | 11:37 |
| metalikop | is waiting to be checked out | 11:37 |
| dholbach | bulio, /usr/share/doc/kernel-doc-<kernel-version>/Documentation should tell you | 11:37 |
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| bulio | well I'm going to use Ubuntu live for the moment | 11:38 |
| dholbach | metalikop, already uploaded it, it was good | 11:38 |
| metalikop | great | 11:39 |
| dholbach | metalikop, katie should get in touch with you :-) | 11:41 |
| metalikop | katie? | 11:41 |
| dholbach | metalikop, 2 packages to tick off - i wonder how much are still remaining | 11:41 |
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| sivang | metalikop: katie is elmo's gf, she sends email back to people who uploaded pkgs IIRC :)) | 11:43 |
| metalikop | ahhh | 11:43 |
| metalikop | :) | 11:43 |
| dholbach | metalikop: you should get mail from Ubuntu Installer <katie@jackass.warthogs.hbd.com> | 11:44 |
| dholbach | :-) | 11:44 |
| metalikop | i'll watch for it | 11:45 |
| ogra | dholbach: katie only talks to whitelisted guys ;) | 11:46 |
| dholbach | ogra, nope... then she's been untrue to you ;-) | 11:46 |
| dholbach | ogra, i got mails for "sponsored uploads" as well | 11:47 |
| ogra | https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Uploads | 11:47 |
| ogra | The archive scripts will only send mail (e.g. ACCEPT/REJECT notification) to a white-listed address. | 11:47 |
| dholbach | ogra, you remember, when you waited for an upload receipt, when you uploaded a package for me? | 11:49 |
| ogra | dholbach: the "sponsored uploads" go to all whitelisted adresses | 11:49 |
| dholbach | i meant that mail - katie sends it as well | 11:49 |
| dholbach | oh damn... yes - he should be on hoary-changes then | 11:49 |
| ogra | dholbach: every MOTU/dev should ;) | 11:50 |
| ogra | #its essential | 11:50 |
| metalikop | i'm on hoary-changes | 11:50 |
| === dholbach puts on some sunglasses, pulls out his men-in-black--makes-you-forget--stick, FIZZ and normal life continues... | ||
| ogra | huh ? | 11:51 |
| ogra | what happened ? where i my log ? | 11:51 |
| === dholbach deletes the last 4 minute out of the logs as well :-) | ||
| ogra | is even *G* | 11:51 |
| metalikop | dholbach: lfm is waiting for you :) | 11:52 |
| ajmitch | dholbach: katie doesn't love me, she never sends me mail.. | 11:52 |
| === T-Gone is now known as T-Bone | ||
| === dholbach comforts ajmitch a bit | ||
| metalikop | same location dholbach | 11:52 |
| ogra | ajmitch: so you are not whitelisted ? | 11:52 |
| ajmitch | ogra: I'm not sure, I use the address that I told elmo to whitelist | 11:53 |
| dholbach | metalikop, i give bluefish some loving | 11:53 |
| dholbach | metalikop, hope it won't take long | 11:53 |
| metalikop | no rush | 11:53 |
| ogra | ajmitch: upload@ubuntulinux.org ? | 11:53 |
| ajmitch | hm? | 11:53 |
| ogra | ajmitch: did you send it there ? | 11:54 |
| ajmitch | yep | 11:54 |
| ogra | ah, ok | 11:54 |
| ajmitch | iirc :) | 11:54 |
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