[12:00] T-Bone: What are you hacking? [12:01] jbailey: i'm whacking, mind you. The ppc kernel :P [12:01] Oh nice. Je te laisses tranquille! [12:01] though i wonder whether that could be some glibc bug [12:01] s/laisses/laisse/ ;) [12:02] Mm. that's right. conjugated from Je, not te. [12:02] since I built my ppc64 gentoo fine on that very same box... [12:02] s/te/tu/ ;) [12:02] No, I had 'te' in the sentence, unless that was wrong? [12:03] jbailey: you said they're using a mmap in update-icon-cache? [12:03] T-Bone: I was playing with the that that our glibc might be the cause of my gij breakage, since I couldn't imagine that noone else was seeing it, but upstream glibc is currently have gcc4-on-ppc issues at the moment. [12:03] jbailey: sorry yeah, i've too hasty :) [12:03] mxpxpod: I think so. I remember seeing that it pulled in mmap and such. [12:03] jbailey: well, that'd make sense. I have no such issues on my pegasos running either debian or gentoo [12:03] I'll have to go over the source tonite [12:03] mxpxpod: It either is trying to mmap and arch-indep file, or it should be in /usr/lib, mind you. [12:04] jbailey: the bugzilla stuff is complete crackpot [12:04] T-Bone: We use the same glibc as Debian pretty much, down to the same compiler. [12:04] hmm [12:04] T-Bone: If you're seeing a difference between Debian Sid/Sarge and Hoary there, I'd suspect our kernel. [12:04] jbailey: i just tried a pristine kernel from -mm series, had the bug. [12:05] Fall back to 2.6.8 maybe? [12:05] so it's either not the kernel or not our kernel [12:05] could try this [12:05] Just thinking that we've moved beyond even in releases. [12:06] gentoo is running 2.6.10. And you know how build intensive that shit is. Never got any build kill there... [12:06] but that's a g4 cpu [12:06] and UP [12:06] Mm, that's true. Do try the Debian kernel package, anyway. [12:06] It's a a quick enough test. [12:06] i built mplayer under debian pretty fine. I can try loop building glibc/gcc/kernel to check tho [12:07] T-Bone: You should be able to also load the Debian glibc onto Ubuntu without any hiccups. [12:07] jbailey: welp, I'll take a look at the icon cache thing tonite and see if I can see what's wrong... where does gtk+ read the caches? [12:07] mxpxpod: ISTR that the file is called gtk-icon-cache.c =) [12:07] :P [12:07] I just saw that [12:07] jbailey: fwiw, if you wanna hang out, we've setup a #ubuntu-kernel irc chan for us kernel crackheads ;) [12:07] I remember it took me 30 seconds to find it and 2 minutes to read the code. =) [12:08] jbailey: i wonder if building inside a chroot would be a good enough test [12:08] a debian chroot, that is [12:08] gotta go [12:08] T-Bone: I don't know enough about the mechanics of a chroot on Linux. [12:09] it should be enough to isolate glibc === T-Bone tries [12:09] Cool. Remind me, chroot is a syscall, right? Not an emulation through the chroot program? [12:10] err [12:10] i'm talking about chrooting myself into a sid jail from my hoary system [12:11] so that i'd end up using a sid environment while running the hoary kernel [12:11] if it goes fine, then the kernel is not to blame [12:11] and thus, most likely the glibc ;) [12:11] if it goes wrong, it proves nothing :) [12:12] True. I think replacing your kernel and rebooting might be less work than that. =) [12:12] jbailey: actually i have a chroot ready :) [12:13] fired a make -j4 loop. Waitandsee [12:13] hrm [12:14] oh, nm === Lovechild [~dnielsen@82.150.72.35] has joined #ubuntu-devel === robtaylor__ [~robtaylor@nat2.camtrial.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:28] gpg: Note: This key has expired! [12:28] bad seb128 === robtaylor__ [~robtaylor@nat2.camtrial.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Mitario [~michiel@sikkes.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jaco [~jaco@host26-251.pool80117.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Safari_Al [~tr@ppp47-105.lns1.adl1.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sid77 [~sid77@ppp-64-164.30-151.libero.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:03] ciao === jaco [~jaco@host26-251.pool80117.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:04] if I have a package version 1.2beta3-0ubuntu1 what do I call the final version? dpkg seems to think 1.2-0ubuntu1 is a downgrade [01:05] it is [01:05] (a downgrade) [01:06] calc suggested doing betas and rcs as, for instance, 1.2~beta3-foo === zul [~chuck@CPE0006258ec6c2-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:06] hey [01:06] lo [01:07] hmm, do I need to up the epoc again? === HiddenWolf [~hidde@136.123.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === rburton [~ross@84.12.33.22] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:07] that's what I'd do in the last case === tritium [~tritium@12-202-90-180.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:14] mavo: i just sent you the signed coc [01:16] bleah..mako i just sent you the signed coc [01:16] sorry my bad [01:17] zul: cool [01:21] tseng: what is the sources.list line for your f-spot and muine packages? (and is there anything else in there?) === jdub [~jdub@home.waugh.id.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:26] hey jdub [01:27] yo yo jdub [01:27] jdub: new g-a-i in ubuntu!!! :) [01:35] g-a-i? [01:35] hi jdub [01:36] morning === jdub is very grumpy atm [01:37] how come? [01:37] dunno [01:37] morning jdub [01:38] luis_: gnome-app-install, first sweep at doing a really usefully user-centric application installer [01:38] ah, nice [01:38] luis_: uploading muine & gtk# for tseng in a few min [01:38] wow, buildd was fast? michael uploaded a source package about one hour ago [01:38] ajmitch: ah, cool [01:38] any idea about f-spot? [01:39] not as yet [01:39] Mitario: buildds are super speedy and run every half hour :) [01:39] jdub, ahh nice :) [01:39] (this is probably the last liveCD I can build for a bit over a week) [01:39] hrm [01:39] luis_: mako tells me you guys hooked up at lwe [01:39] he said he packaged it this morning [01:39] is there a way to do something like 'dpkg -i http://www.getsweaaa.com/~tseng/f-spot/f-spot_0.0.8-1_i386.deb' [01:39] jdub: it was hot [01:39] jdub: yeah, we talked for a bit, not long enough :) [01:39] luis_: wget... ;) [01:39] jdub: blah, rpm -ivh and rug in can both take URIs ;) [01:40] yeah, we'll fix apt to do that soon [01:40] apt-get install and apt-get install [01:40] so we can completely ignore dpkg :-) [01:40] jdub, btw, can you do something for me? modifying my pgo feed [01:40] (that said, it could be smartpm) [01:41] Mitario: got your mail [01:41] ok great [01:41] :) [01:41] nm me then [01:41] luis_: g-a-i kicks arse if i do say so myself [01:41] even more so with mvo's latest patch [01:42] rburton: good stuff [01:42] ? [01:42] jdub: runs synaptic in a thread so the UI doesn't die and embeds the synaptic progress window [01:42] rburton, do you think we can integrate your neat .desktop file app icon fetch thingy in update-manager? [01:43] rburton: haha, rad [01:43] Mitario: jdub was writing that [01:43] jdub: yeah we had a good time [01:43] jdub: another new release with that and new desktop files next week i guess [01:43] jdub: i had a good time with the host of the gnome guys actually [01:43] rburton: yeah, i'll ship a data package probably over the weekend [01:44] jdub: that would totally rock [01:46] Mitario: hrm [01:46] Mitario: that gets kinda backwards on us [01:46] Mitario: although it's probably doable [01:46] jdub, how do you mean? [01:47] well, i don't think it's nescesairy or something :) it would just look cool [01:47] Mitario: you're coming from binary/source names, and want to get .desktop metadata; g-a-i has .desktop metadata and wants binary names (we just add a field in the .desktop file) [01:47] Mitario: just gotta figure out how to do it ;) [01:47] and it doesn't cover libraries and so on [01:47] no that's allright.. [01:48] just an app icon for the apps that g-a-i also shows [01:48] that said, it would be nice to have update-manager only show applications (and libraries only on checkbox, etc) [01:48] some sort of filters you mean? [01:49] my head's a bit slow atm, probably have to go to bed ;) [01:49] ;-) [01:49] nah, something to think about for hoary+1 anyway :) [01:49] hehe ok :) [01:49] all fine by me [01:50] jdub: i want to get g-a-i ready for hoary so keep in touch if anything needs to be done [01:50] i'm off to bed [01:52] brb need to restart X === Mitario [~michiel@sikkes.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:56] back [01:56] ok, this is just like: WOW, I configured X to use hardware accel, started xcompmgr [01:57] it almost looks the same like NLD's flash-hack demo now :) [01:58] and it runs so very, very slow [01:59] HrdwrBoB: depending on your hardware, ran fast enough for me [01:59] HrdwrBoB, its so fast for me [01:59] I have an nvidia card with some options from that gnomedesktop.org article [01:59] opening menus with fades + shadows is normal speed [02:00] ajmitch: I tried it on a 440mx and it made a very large performance difference [02:02] the only comment I have, is that my nautilus icons fall behind my panel :) and I can slide windows over my panel === usual [~colin@cpe-24-194-192-201.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === srbaker [~srbaker@blk-215-89-73.eastlink.ca] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] [02:10] i wonder how hard it would be to re-port xchat's perl plugin support to gaim [02:10] and python === zenrox [~zenrox@wbar7.sea-4-12-028-223.dsl-verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Mitario [~michiel@sikkes.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mroth [~mroth@mroth.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel === michiel_ [~michiel@sikkes.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === robertj [~robertj@c-24-98-80-19.atl.client2.attbi.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:59] has there been general funkyness reporting on ppc recently? [02:59] robertj: what kind? [02:59] i got a really weird bug report on gaim from ppc [02:59] icons? SIGILL? [02:59] icons [03:00] known bug [03:00] also I have a supicion that xorg-driver-synaptics doesnt take over for xfree86's synaptics [03:02] er, it does [03:03] daniels: it just removed it and I just installed xorg-driver-synaptics [03:03] let me kill X and see if this is fixed [03:03] brb [03:04] sivang: So everything works now? === robertj [~robertj@c-24-98-80-19.atl.client2.attbi.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:07] mjg59, sivang and I got his latitude 8200 suspending/resuming today with nvidia module using NvAGP [03:07] daniels: it removed it when I installed xorg and I had to reinstall it [03:08] tritium: Ah, ok [03:08] Is that the default? [03:08] robertj: so don't uninstall ubuntu-desktop [03:08] mjg59, are you asking me [03:09] tritium: Yeah [03:09] hrmm, wadda ya know, I didn't notice [03:09] mjg59, no, if you don't blacklist intel_agp, agpgart will load, despite your xorg.conf setting [03:09] thanks, sorry about that [03:09] mjg59, also, had to pass module params for nvidia and disable video posting [03:10] tritium: Argh [03:11] I've no nvidia stuff to test this on, sadly (thankfully?) [03:11] It'd be nice if it could Just Work, but it sounds like it'd be a mess to integrate [03:11] mjg59, and, even though my GeForce4 440 Go doesn't support SBA, this is the module param combination I need to use: mjg59, in /etc/modules: nvidia NVreg_EnableAGPFW=1 NVreg_EnableAGPSBA=1 [03:11] i have nvidia at hand, but unfortunately not laptops [03:11] otherwise, it won't seem to work [03:12] mjg59, send any tests to me, if you like [03:12] tritium: But it works fine with nv? [03:12] mjg59, actually, I haven't really used with nv [03:13] mjg59, I do have one strange problem. I have to press power button 2X to resume [03:13] haven't figured that one out yet [03:13] tritium: Yeah, you said. I have no idea whatsoever what could be causing that. [03:13] Nor I. Anyway, if you want me to test things out, let me know. === T-Bone [varenet@T-Bone.developer.debian] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:14] Will do === moquist_ [~moquist@pool-70-16-194-50.man.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:14] cool === robtaylor__ [~robtaylor@nat2.camtrial.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:17] mjg59, so what packages am I missing to have suspend an option on logout. I have powermanagement-interface [03:18] guys, what do you think as something like http://geeklog.eyesopened.nl/wp-content/updatealert.png as a 'U have software updates' systray icon? === Safari_Al [~tr@ppp47-105.lns1.adl1.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:19] tritium: The code doesn't seem to be written yet [03:19] mjg59, okay, thanks [03:19] luis_: sorry, id gone to dinner [03:19] Mitario: I would think a red background would be better === helix_ [~erinn@adsl-154-198-208.jax.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:20] robertj, what do you mean? [03:20] robertj, i mean, isn't this already red? [03:20] luis_: deb http://www.getsweaaa.com/~tseng/muine ./ [03:20] luis_: f-spot doesnt have a Packages.gz [03:20] Mitario: that icon looks black to me [03:21] luis_: i can make you one if you are still around. [03:21] robertj, well i guess it's pretty darkish yeah :) [03:21] robertj, so you think it should be somewhat brighter? [03:21] it should make your eyes burn [03:21] ajmitch: oh snap.. muine is accepted before gtk# [03:21] throbbing would be best [03:22] hehe ;) [03:22] ajmitch: it might get stuck in dep wait [03:23] ajmitch: was gtk# rejected, or not upped yet? === T-Bone is now known as T-None [03:29] tseng: nah, if it is going to get into universe within the next... well, say, next 7-8 days, don't bother === Safari_Al [~tr@ppp47-105.lns1.adl1.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:29] luis_: f-spot was packaged also by the debian maintainer im told. sounds like we'll have that within that time frame hopefully [03:30] luis_: you asked about other goodies.. my other package there was tomboy and is now in the archive proper [03:30] so no, nothing else. [03:30] some older stuff built against warty [03:32] tseng: gtk# will be in NEW [03:32] I uploaded them both at the same time [03:32] tseng: cool, thanks [03:32] only change I made was changing the distribution in debian/changelog to hoary [03:33] right.. did you get an accepted mail for gtk#? [03:33] no, but I don't get any mail when I upload normally :) === ajmitch checks [03:33] it goes to hoary-changes [03:34] yeah [03:35] robertj, still here? [03:35] I had issues uploading it the first time, possilby a partial .orig.tar.gz was uploaded, 2nd time it uploaded with no complaints [03:37] ok can anyone else critisize this one? :) http://www.geeklog.eyesopend.nl/wp-content/softupd2.png? [03:38] Mitario: link no work [03:39] ehh sorry http://www.geeklog.eyesopened.nl/wp-content/softupd2.png [03:39] Mitario: our icon designer is going to do Human icons for those, btw. [03:39] oooh [03:39] ok, nice :) [03:39] Mitario: might be worth using one of the gnome ones by default though [03:39] Mitario: eh that second one doesnt seem working either here. [03:39] yeah, but which one [03:39] tseng: strip the www [03:39] http://geeklog.eyesopened.nl/wp-content/softupd2.png [03:39] right, i really should go to bed === jdub recalls hearing Mitario say that earlier ;) [03:40] jdub: word [03:40] heh. [03:40] hmm, really? ;) [03:40] i'm awake 20h now :/ [03:40] 11:49 < Mitario> my head's a bit slow atm, probably have to go to bed ;) [03:40] and it's 13:40 now ;) [03:40] oh well, :p [03:41] jdub, is there a schedule for the icons to 'officially' use them as default icon theme? [03:44] next week or so [03:44] ahh ok, nice :) [03:44] will it have an 'you have software updates' icon? [03:44] a* [03:45] the first drop might not [03:45] but we will have one :) [03:45] ok [03:45] ok great :) [03:46] well, current update-notifier icon is also custom [03:46] michael suggested to design a new icon if i really had nothing to do anymore :) [03:46] and because i'm lazy right now.. and tired, and broke [03:50] hrm [03:50] windows is weird [04:00] ajmitch: I guess we'll figure it out tommorow. thanks [04:00] yeah, sorry about that === Mitario [~michiel@sikkes.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:03] woo, finally fixed the bug [04:04] now i'm going to bed, good night/day everyone! [04:04] night Mitario [04:04] night. === luis_ burns Yet Another Try At A LiveCD [04:07] oh, hrm [04:08] can you not upload files to the ubuntu wiki? [04:13] hrm [04:13] dunno [04:13] no, i think you can [04:14] I couldn't find a link for it [04:14] you'll have to search for a link somewhere, might be on the edit page page [04:14] but maybe I was just failing to grok something obvious [04:14] yet again [04:14] no [04:14] ah [04:14] there is nothing obvious about zwiki [04:14] well [04:14] apart from the huge mole [04:16] so i can't figure out how to make windows output via the spdif [04:16] prayer === luis_ attempts yet again to poke the liveCD into doing 1024x768 [04:17] btw luis_, we're having a party tonight, come over [04:17] haha [04:17] sure === luis_ hails a cab [04:18] jdub: can you send some pizza around? [04:18] well, blah, my script is not as loveydovey as I'd hoped [04:18] btw, are you getting spammed from FOSSTEC? [04:19] I am not [04:19] at least not that I've noticed [04:21] blah, blam seems to have grabbed my keyboard and not let go [04:21] aha! worked it out [04:22] oof [04:22] sounds good === Arrogance [~aks@CPE0050ba556e4b-CM001225423850.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === helix_ is now known as helix === hawke [~hawke@hawkesnest.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:38] daniels: you around? [05:38] oh! jdub [05:40] lamont: word [05:41] daniels: I have a patch for you for xresprobe - wanna see it? [05:41] lamont: fo'sho [05:41] daniel.stone@u.c? [05:41] yahy [05:41] also, yah [05:42] makes it into if i386 else if ppc else ... [05:42] cool [05:43] Makefile:21: *** extraneous `endif'. Stop. [05:43] well. that was the intent anyway... [05:43] gimme a minute === robtaylor__ [~robtaylor@nat2.camtrial.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:51] daniels: better patch mailed - actually works on at least 2 architectures. :-) === ironwolf [~ironwolf@c-24-6-169-124.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lamont sleeps === robtaylor__ [~robtaylor@nat2.camtrial.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tritium [~tritium@12-202-90-180.client.insightBB.com] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === jdub [~jdub@home.waugh.id.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:41] bad connection fu today [08:04] hrm [08:04] it's another jdub [08:05] # Signed-off-by: Josh Boyer [08:06] spoken to him before, too :-) === ups [~ups@203.200.160.36] has joined #ubuntu-devel === svenl [~luther@AStrasbourg-251-1-63-140.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === doko [~doko___@dsl-082-082-190-031.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === daniels [~daniels@202-44-183-17.nexnet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ups [~ups@203.200.160.36] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mvo [~egon@ip181.135.1511I-CUD12K-01.ish.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pitti [~pitti@box79162.elkhouse.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:20] Morning folks [10:20] daniels: ping === snaggen [~snaggen@c-987070d5.034-37-73746f12.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:32] someone tell daniels xorg preconf is fuxked [10:36] I mean really, I've been asked the 'do you want hw detection' question like 15 times now. [10:36] *I've answerd already, now go away kthnxbye* [10:58] lamont: ping [10:59] - want a machine-hard-lokcup bug ? [10:59] or would you rather I don't share ? === abelli [~abelli@host-84-222-38-31.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === da_bon_bon [~rohandhru@210.18.160.134] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:06] hi all. [11:06] is gnome-panel maintainer here ? [11:08] thatd be seb128, who isn't [11:08] ah, i wanted to make a reuest === lupusBE [~lupus@dD5E03FA3.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === minghua [~minghua@dialup-4.230.72.173.Dial1.Houston1.Level3.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:33] Hi, I have a question about mp3 support in Ubuntu [11:34] the FAQ says mp3 is not supported due to patent issues [11:34] and indeed gstreamer0.8-mad is not included in main (I suppose for exactly this reason) [11:35] but on the other hand python-hip is included [11:35] which can decode mp3 using libmp3hip0 (which comes from lame) [11:36] I am perfectly happy with including libmp3hip0 [11:36] I am using it to listen to my mp3s now [11:36] but I am just curious about the inconsistency here === enrico [~enrico@enrico.developer.debian] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:37] if we can include libmp3hip0, when not just have gstreamer0.8-mad so that we can listen do mp3s from rhythmbox? [11:38] by the way this is about warty, I haven't looked at hoary yet [11:49] minghua: hmm, that's a good discovery [11:49] minghua: I think this deserves to be discussed on the mailing list [11:50] pitti: are you subscribed to ubuntu-devel? [11:51] minghua: of course :-) [11:51] if yes, would you please send one mail for me? [11:51] minghua: yes, I added it to my todo list [11:51] I am not subscribed, and last time I sent a mail, it took about two weeks to pass moderation [11:51] thanks. :-) [11:58] minghua: send [11:58] minghua: thanks a lot [11:59] pitti: Thank you. I am probably going to subscribe ubuntu-devel soon. :-) === Simira [rpGirl@m146i.studby.ntnu.no] has joined #ubuntu-devel === seb128 [~seb128@ANancy-151-1-23-53.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:13] Morning seb128 [12:13] hey [12:14] pitti: the jail has a good internet connection ? [12:14] :) [12:14] seb128: I hope so [12:14] seb128: to download mp3 w4r3z :-) [12:14] hehe [12:14] :) === dgp [~danilo@adsl-ull-190-163.46-151.net24.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:32] pitti: you're doing kernel stuff now rightr ? [12:32] lifeless: oh, I didn't know that up to now :-) [12:32] oh, I'm confused then :) [12:32] lifeless: zul and lamont are core members of the kernel team [12:32] I know lamont is .. ah [12:32] lifeless: I only collect vulnerabilities :-) [12:33] zul ping ? === pitti is the local security patch dealer [12:34] at least you aren't a crack dealer :) === abelli [~abelli@host-84-222-38-31.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === T-None is now known as T-Bone === [m0rph] [~morph@p83.129.193.109.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:37] lifeless: what about kernel? === T-Bone has a few more patches to merge in [12:38] fuse-source needs a patch, fabbione wanted feedback on it, this was while he was handing over to the kernel team. [12:38] pitti: btw, dunno if lamont told you about #ubuntu-kernel :) [12:38] also the module control file incorrectly depends on kernel-image not linux-image [12:38] T-Bone: no, indeed not. thanks [12:38] pitti: well then now you know :) === _d4vid [~ehud@triforum.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:50] lifeless: btw, if 2.6.11 hangs, boot it with "noinotify" [12:50] lifeless: that helped for me [12:51] lifeless: 2.6.11 now ships fuse by default? good crack :-) [12:51] during the gnome-login is your hang ? [12:51] lifeless: exactly [12:51] lifeless: inotify is the culprit [12:51] pitti - no, apt-get install fuse-source + a small aptch [12:51] lifeless: fabbione added a kernel parameter "noinotify" to disable it [12:51] pitti: thanks. someone should add that to the bug :) [12:51] lifeless: hmm, jdub once told me that fuse will eventually be merged upstream [12:52] pitti: fuse is in some -mm1 patch for the 2.6.11rc series though [12:52] lifeless: its a s3kr3t :-) [12:52] yes [12:52] lifeless: no, sersiously, it should be added [12:52] pitti (was answering treenaks) [12:53] cool. fuse working. [12:55] heh, that hangs it though :[ [12:55] it ain't good at reentrancy === Mitario [~michiel@sikkes.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:02] hi everyone === website [~website@host92-120.pool8249.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pitti [~pitti@box79162.elkhouse.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:36] seb128: I dist-upgraded and now most of my icons are gone [01:37] seb128: known bug? [01:37] pitti: ppc ? [01:37] seb128: indeed [01:37] iz gtk bug [01:37] seb128: arg, i lost another build-dep to control.in on f-spot. my bad [01:37] seb128: I did not upgrade this for maybe two weeks [01:37] sudo rm -f /usr/share/icons/*/icon-theme.cache [01:38] and relogin? [01:38] killall nautilus [01:38] just restart the apps, nautilus is the most obvious [01:38] gnome-panel, I suppose [01:38] if you have the issue on the panel yep [01:38] yay, they are back [01:38] seb128: thanks, dude [01:38] tseng: could you make a 0ubuntu2 ? :) [01:38] pitti: np [01:38] seb128: already did. [01:39] tseng: same location ? [01:39] seb128: how can an arch-all thing like icons be ppc-specific? [01:39] seb128: not uploaded yet. 2 mins [01:39] pitti: that's the icon cache [01:39] pitti: probably and endian issue [01:39] s/and/an/ [01:40] hmm [01:40] pitti: http://bugs.debian.org/295815 [01:40] seb128: btw, "cache" sounds like it should live under /var/cache, not /usr [01:41] seb128: will that break with a r/o /usr? [01:41] I've not tried [01:41] jbailey suspespected an endianness/mmap issue [01:41] possible [01:41] gtk-update-icon-cache /dir/to/cache [01:41] to create a cache for a dir [01:42] that's what is called in the postinsts [01:42] seb128: 0ubuntu2 in the same place. [01:43] tseng: thanks! [01:43] thank you. === T-Bone rereads himself and considers getting some coffee before typing more :P === tseng learned his lesson re control.in [01:43] :) [01:44] ajmitch: no sign of gtk-sharp-unstable yet. [01:45] ajmitch: if you dont have a rejected mail we should ask around [01:45] is that a new package ? [01:45] yep. [01:45] do they need extra work? [01:45] need 2 approvals [01:46] one before build [01:46] and one before getting in the archive [01:46] hm, oh =/ [01:46] when have you uploaded it ? [01:46] aj uploaded for me last night my time [01:47] its universe and only used by muine, approval should be no problem. [01:47] yeah [01:47] probably waiting on elmo [01:48] I'd not asked anyones permission other than the debian maint. again.. universe [01:48] appologies if I missed some proceedure. [01:48] no, don't worry [01:49] all the new packages go to NEW [01:49] and wait for a ftpmaster approval [01:49] in debian or ubuntu main or universe [01:49] for everybody [01:50] fair enough. === jaco [~jaco@host26-251.pool80117.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:53] did you guys consider reintroducing autoconf-doc into the autoconf package? [01:53] tseng: you did tomboy right? it crashes when trying to make notes here, ideas? [01:53] winkle: hm, it does now here as well. [01:54] winkle: thats quite odd, wonder whats changed [01:54] i doubt it needs rebuilt against a new libpanel-applet.. [01:56] tomboy doesn't work for some time here [01:56] winkle: hm it needs rebuilt against *some* lib. I built again from source and is working [01:56] we just need a no-change revision to get built with the latest deps I believe [01:57] tseng: check, hm, I seem to recall some -cil package being upgraded... [01:57] winkle: gtk-sharp 1.0.4 yes. [01:57] but thats a minor release [01:57] on a stable branch [01:57] ok [02:00] winkle: thanks for pointing this out, I dont use tomboy often [02:01] tseng: np, first time I tried it :P === Mitario [~michiel@sikkes.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:03] i love how mono is impossible to strace === da_bon_bon [~rohandhru@210.18.160.134] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:04] hi all [02:04] seb128: here ? [02:04] is the gnome-panel maintainer here, i want to make a small request ? [02:05] afternoon [02:05] seb128: evening :) [02:05] seb128: i know that people always demand rebuilds, but can i just ask when is the next rebuild scheduled for ? [02:06] rebuild for what ? [02:06] gnome-panel [02:06] a rebuild doesn't change anything [02:06] you mean "update" ? [02:06] "release" ? [02:06] due to a nasty bug i cannot work properly. i reported on bugzilla of gnome [02:07] the bug was fixed in cvs [02:07] what bug ? [02:07] thats why i am curious [02:07] wait a sec [02:07] the package is update on upstream releases [02:07] or to include patches [02:07] 167478 [02:07] bug no. 167478 on gnome bugzilla [02:07] da_bon_bon: the next release is due by Feb 28th, as you can see at http://gnome.org/start/2.9/ [02:08] tseng: sorry, mea culpa :) [02:08] da_bon_bon: if you can get a patch from cvs, and prove why its a major bug, it might get fixed sooner [02:08] i thought that ubuntu people compile every night from cvs.. [02:08] am i wrong ? [02:08] heh, nope :P [02:08] then ? [02:08] da_bon_bon: yep you are [02:09] we go by the same 2.9.x prereleases as everyone else gets. plus patches [02:09] da_bon_bon: we package upstream releases [02:09] and include patches for some stuff [02:09] seb128: if i am right, then is it not fixed or some other problem ? [02:09] it's fixed in the CVS [02:09] but there is no new release since then [02:09] ok, so u dont compile from cvs ? [02:09] next one is planned for 28th feb as said by tseng [02:09] no [02:10] oh, sorry, i didnt know. [02:10] sorry for the trouble [02:10] that would be a lot of work to package every day every module [02:10] ok.. so i cant add stuff to gnome panel until 29-30th of feb ? [02:11] also, how do i edit menus is hoary ? [02:11] I can include a patch to the package [02:11] *in [02:11] you don't [02:11] seb128: so, patching, but then how do i update it ? [02:11] i cant edit menus in hoary ? [02:11] you can add .desktop file in ~/.local/share/applications/ [02:11] look on /usr/share/applications/ [02:12] right, there is no menu editor for GNOME 2.10 [02:12] :( [02:12] they have changed the code to use the freedesktop format [02:12] but nobody worked on a menu editor yet [02:12] but in nautilus, applications:/// doesnt work, so i needed to ask [02:12] yeah, that's the 2.8 crappy system [02:12] ah, ok.. [02:12] 2.10 is much better but that's a different code [02:13] so this need to be rewritten [02:13] but not out until 19march :( [02:13] and nobody has worked on it for the moment [02:13] ok.. [02:13] for the patch, just update the gnome-panel package [02:13] so, the development team actually packages the software when a release is made ? [02:13] I'll grab the patch from the CVS [02:13] correct [02:14] seb128: thanks a lot... but then when do i update ? [02:14] in 1 or 2 hours [02:14] ah, so it /is/ a critical bug ? [02:14] no [02:14] ok.. [02:15] I just do that so you can use your panel [02:15] thank you sooo much. [02:15] no problem :) [02:15] but, say, if people like me go on increasing, doesnt your work increase ? for every bug fix people ask you to rebuild.. [02:15] :) [02:16] there is not a lot of crasher [02:16] you are the first to bug me about this one === T-Bone is now known as T-Gone [02:16] :) === pitti [~pitti@box79162.elkhouse.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === usual [~colin@cpe-69-204-175-167.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === abelli [~abelli@host-84-222-38-31.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lupusBE [~lupus@dD5772971.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === HiddenWolf [~hidde@136.159.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:26] da_bon_bon: panel patched uploaded. It should be in the archive in 1 hour. Let me know if that works and if you have a broken icon in the "add to panel" with it === moquist [~moquist@pool-64-222-176-31.man.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:27] seb128: why the icon ? [02:28] because that's probably what's crashing it now [02:28] a broken icon [02:28] maybe that's due a package [02:28] oh, i didnt realize that [02:28] i thought maybe a big bug or somethin [02:29] u there for the hour it will take to upload ? [02:31] yep [02:32] ok' [02:32] so m i [02:38] can u explain why once u have uploaded it takes 'bout an hour, seb128 ? [02:39] because it needs to be built [02:39] and then it needs to be synced on the mirror [02:39] ok, so u dont build the binary on ur own pc ? [02:39] da_bon_bon: we dont upload the binaries. just a source package [02:39] I do, but I upload only the sources [02:39] da_bon_bon: it gets built by a pbuilder. [02:39] whats a pbuilder ? [02:39] an automated builder daemon [02:40] buildd [02:40] or that. [02:40] (pbuilder is a package) [02:40] tseng: what's the hardware on the server-side? :) [02:40] oh ok.. what notions i had aobut maintainers, how wrong i was! [02:40] HiddenWolf: not sure specifically. its big and bad [02:41] the moment u upload, it starts building ? [02:41] da_bon_bon. I imagine it'll have a queue of packages that need to be build. :) [02:42] really ? [02:42] da_bon_bon: that server only has limited capacity. So it can't possibly do everything at once. [02:42] http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DeveloperResources [02:42] there is information on this sort of thing here. [02:42] read around [02:43] are uploaders notfiied when package is built ? [02:43] no, but they are notified when it is accepted [02:43] would you mind reading that page, esp BuildDaemons link? [02:44] i appreciate your curiosity but its getting a bit OT [02:44] ot ? [02:44] off topic. [02:44] sorry [02:45] thanks. === T-Gone is now known as T-Bone [02:52] tseng: f-spot 0.0.8 in the archive [02:52] seb128: i see it :) === AndyFitz [~root@220-245-97-227-qld-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:52] tseng: thanks :) [02:53] seb128: if you have another free moment today.. could you help me with a no-change upload of tomboy? [02:53] I really need to sort this gpg stuff soon =/ [02:55] tseng: what's the issue with it ? [02:55] when I start it here it hangs, no icon in the notify [02:55] and it return to the console after some min [02:55] seb128: here it crashes when adding a note, same for winkle [02:55] rebuilding it solves the issue.. some lib inconsistancy [02:56] k [02:56] seb128: are you using --tray-icon ? [02:56] no [02:56] see, its an applet now [02:56] so you can a) add the applet, or b) call with --tray-icon [02:56] it breaks working configuration [02:56] iiiiiiiiiih [02:56] yeah =/ [02:57] upstream crack, calling it w/ no args should make an icon imo [02:57] rebuilding now BTW :) [02:57] you see the crasher? [02:57] yep [02:58] #4 0xb74201ca in pthread_cond_timedwait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () [02:58] from /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libpthread.so.0 [02:58] #5 0xb7f3d256 in mono_method_full_name () from /usr/lib/libmono.so.0 [02:58] #6 0xb7f4bee4 in mono_once () from /usr/lib/libmono.so.0 [02:58] rebuild fix it [02:58] indeed [02:58] ABI breakage in a minor update ? [02:59] looks that way =/ [02:59] not nice [02:59] ive not seen anything else break. [02:59] uploaded [02:59] you rock. [03:00] thanks :) [03:00] do you know if 1.1.4 is packaged somewhere ? [03:00] it is not [03:00] it needs some packaging changes IIRC [03:00] if you saw the recent chat in here with miguel === neofeed [~moritz@pD9574D9E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:00] nop [03:00] he raised several issues with the current debian mono policy [03:00] so updating to 1.1.4 will also involve a new policy [03:01] k, so not for hoary ? [03:01] likely not [03:01] http://wiki.debian.net/?MonoDebianPlan for anyone interested. [03:02] k [03:02] latexer@gentoo tells me that most apps are compatible with 1.1.4 from a non-packaging standpoint. he is working on fixing tomboy, believe thats the last [03:03] seb128: i need to go. will update later at night and will tell u when we next meet. thanks for the trouble :) [03:03] da_bon_bon: k, later [03:03] seb128: later [03:04] im off as well, maybe for the rest of the day. [03:04] many thanks seb128 [03:04] have a good afternoon :) === website [~website@host92-120.pool8249.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === kent [~kent@c83-249-58-240.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:16] jdub: where have you seen the rawhide patch for the menus ? [03:16] seb128: saw seth's desktop sshots ;-) [03:16] seb128: perhaps ping him [03:16] k [03:16] because there is no patch in the current srpm [03:16] bum [03:17] jdub: do you know if somebody is working on sabayon packaging ? I'm tempted to start it :p [03:18] :-) [03:19] haven't heard so far, no [03:20] k [03:20] it looks cool by reading planet :) === Lovechild [~dnielsen@82.150.72.35] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:28] jdub: an user is asking if we are going to move nautilus-sendto to main or in the desktop. Already considered it ? === tritium [~tritium@12-202-90-180.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === da_bon_bon [~rohandhru@210.18.160.134] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:29] seb128: here ? [03:30] yep [03:30] works great now. thanks [03:30] np [03:30] do you have a screwed icon ? [03:31] where ? all icons are ok. [03:32] seb128: thanks, then cya later [03:32] seb128: yes, i think we should [03:33] jdub: k. Should I mail -devel or something ? [03:34] seb128: i'll confirm and add it now ;) [03:34] cool === JanC [JanC@dD5762673.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Kaloz [kaloz@217.27.212.53] has joined #ubuntu-devel === winkle [~winkle@lgh3814234.vittran.norrnod.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:47] <_d4vid> hi all === jbailey [~jbailey@CPE000ded9d787c-CM014260028338.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:51] seb128: blame lamont for no nautilus-sendto seed love atm ;) [03:53] he has a lock on the seed again ? :) === demo67 [~demo@AStrasbourg-251-1-21-90.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:58] seb128: -r--r--r-- ;-) === unifi [~ddundas@68-174-114-59.nyc.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:01] has anyone had ubuntu installation freeze up at setting up xserver? [04:01] because i have been trying for 2 days to install the thing and It wont budge past this point === decko [decko@200.225.233.169] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:08] no one? [04:09] nop [04:12] I guess I should just go back to using mepis [04:13] unifi: or you can go ask around #ubuntu, it's for user issues and trouble. [04:16] I have... they dont know either [04:17] I have been at this for 2 days now [04:17] have installed suse [04:17] mepis [04:17] even linspire on this thing trying to find a decent distro === HWolf [~hidde@136.139.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === eruin [~eruin@eruin.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel === kent [~kent@c83-249-58-240.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sjoerd [sjoerd@80.126.201.244] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:39] seb128: you know about complete-hangs when you unmount something while a nautilus window is open on it ? [04:40] lifeless: boot with 'noinotify' [04:40] seb128: just happened when I upgraded today, hadn't upgraded for a week or two before [04:40] jdub: 2.6.10-3, never had this problem before, [04:40] lifeless: trust me. :) [04:41] jdub: robert.collins@canonical.com--general/bazaar-fuser--0 for fuse module for bazaar [04:41] jdub: pybaz is not packaged yet - but on ddaa.net [04:41] jdub: ok, I trust you, when will inotify suck less ? === lifeless -> movie [04:43] lifeless: as jdub said, inotify bug [04:44] lifeless: rml is working on a lockless version atm [04:44] lifeless: go to the odeon! :) === srbaker [~srbaker@blk-215-89-73.eastlink.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Wolfy [~hidde@136.76.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Kaloz [~kaloz@arrakis.dune.hu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zul [~chuck@CPE0006258ec6c2-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:06] hey [05:10] http://ubuntu.hands.com/releases/4.10/ has "Ubuntu 5.04 (Hoary Hedgehog) as its page title. =) [05:10] lol [05:35] wireless rocks my world [05:35] jdub: empire - the life fantastic [05:40] jdub: blame the root cause, not the trigger-man... :-) [05:40] seb128/jdub: seed archive repaired [05:40] thanks lamont === HiddenWolf [~hidde@136.176.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:42] is the person who is working on accessibility CD-ROM around? === dholbach [~daniel@td9091b4b.pool.terralink.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:43] hai [05:44] sync [05:44] argl :) [05:48] seb128: but I don't know what seed action jdub had planned. === Kaloz_ [~kaloz@arrakis.dune.hu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === HWolf [~hidde@136.176.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:49] Anyone here? [05:49] no [05:49] what a strange question [05:49] we're all zombies [05:50] 17:49 -!- Irssi: #ubuntu-devel: Total of 95 nicks [05:50] lamont: addind nautilus-sendto to the desktop === lupusBE [~lupus@dD5E03E61.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lupusBE [~lupus@dD5E03E61.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:53] jdub: http://www.advogato.org/person/robertc/diary.html?start=30 [05:54] My internet connection is wacky. Is there anything in today's updates that could mess it up? [05:56] have you tried calling your isp? === HiddenWolf [~hidde@136.176.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === abelli [~abelli@host-84-222-38-31.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === luis_ [~louie@h001217d2c87d.ne.client2.attbi.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === HiddenWolf [~hidde@136.176.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Evaso [~yellow@ppp-229-217.24-151.libero.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:45] is there a way to regenerate fstab as on a new fresh installed ubuntu system? === jk [~jochem@jkossen.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:49] Evaso: why do you need to do that? [06:50] i'm only guessing about it, i had touched an fstab and i want to automatically regenerate one as on installing ubuntu is there a way? [06:51] Evaso: not that I know of. But you can just manually edit it, right? [06:52] HiddenWolf: Yes i could edit it, but if i want to return to the autmacally generated one of the install time can i do? [06:53] HiddenWolf: with new kernel 2.6.10 the support of udf is introduced but i tink that packet cd are not autmatically mounted by pomunt i tink in hoary so i want to verify it without reinstalling === sid77 [~sid77@ppp-135-171.30-151.libero.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:55] ciao === website [~website@host92-120.pool8249.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === JanC [~JanC@dD5762673.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === website [~website@host92-120.pool8249.interbusiness.it] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === abelli [~abelli@host-84-222-38-31.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === daniels [~daniels@202-44-183-17.nexnet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ogra [~ogra@p508EBC6E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:47] hai ogra [07:47] hi [07:51] ogra, looks good, as far as i understand it [07:51] heh === hikaru79 [~hikaru79@d57-4-59.home.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === hikaru79 [~hikaru79@d57-4-59.home.cgocable.net] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === Astharot [~isager@host251-99.pool8252.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Mitario [~michiel@sikkes.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sdfsadf [~Bersirc@200.106.39.251] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:08] hello === sdfsadf [~Bersirc@200.106.39.251] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === Astharot [~isager@host251-99.pool8252.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tritium [~tritium@12-202-90-180.client.insightBB.com] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === LarryT [user101@82.127.83.158] has joined #ubuntu-devel === LarryT i got a problem with the last rc of hoary live cd : i get an error message about casper udeb :/ === mroth [~mroth@mroth.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel === eruin [~eruin@eruin.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel === LarryT i trying an seoncd download --> iso may be corruped [08:24] bbl [08:25] dholbach tobad :) [08:26] larryT: how about checking the md5sum first? [08:26] :( i didn't :-[ [08:26] that's the reason why i download it again ;) [08:27] 25 minutes still :) [08:27] LarryT: Why do you delete the iso then? :-P [08:28] because i thought about md5 after :-[ :) [08:35] LarrtT: sucks === lamont_r [~lamont@216.17.176.82] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:49] re === Arrogance [~aks@CPE0050ba556e4b-CM001225423850.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Kaloz [~kaloz@arrakis.dune.hu] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:03] Hi dholbach : how are you doing ? [09:04] LarryT, thanks... fine :-) [09:04] LarryT, what about you? [09:04] about more than a week that i have no news from plosr :( [09:04] south american is far away :) [09:04] but connection must work there ;) [09:05] LarryT, ah, now i recognize you === jaco [~jaco@host26-251.pool80117.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dholbach is a bit slow today [09:05] :) === robtaylor__ [~robtaylor@nat2.camtrial.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:05] dholbach you better have "ein mass Bier , nicht war ? " :) [09:05] "var" [09:06] i have succesfully added gparted on the ubuntu live cd [09:06] LarryT, wow - cool! [09:06] dholbach :but i can't resize any kind of partition :( [09:06] dholbach : dunno why [09:07] LarryT, any debug messages in the console about it? [09:07] dholbach nothing at all. I can resize fat32, create all kind of partition, but i can't resize neither ntfs nor ext :( [09:08] LarryT, maybe they're mounted? [09:08] dholbach : in that case, gparted shows a lock , isnit ? [09:09] LarryT, try mount in the console [09:09] dholbach, it seems one can resize a partition only if there is nothing after :( [09:09] dholbach, yep gonna try : just a while ... [09:10] LarryT, yes... i think there must be free space after a partition to resize it [09:13] dholbach, you mean : even if you want to reduce it ? [09:13] dholbach, ubuntu live larrycustom is running ... [09:13] LarryT, i think i read something in some TODO somewhere [09:14] dholbach, hmm ... [09:22] dholbach, yep this time it works :) [09:22] dholbach, do tou know hwoto resize or delete extended partition ? [09:23] dholbach, it is free, absolutly blank :) [09:23] LarryT, sorry, i don't know - is there nobody at irc://irc.gnome.org/gparted? :-) [09:23] dholbach, no matter . :) cul8r :) [09:24] LarryT, see you! === kent [~kent@c83-249-58-240.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel === LarryT [user101@82.127.83.158] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === mroth [~mroth@mroth.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:50] anyone know of a good todo list app for gnome? [09:50] with check boxen? [09:51] there's gtodo [09:51] do you want hierarchical? [09:51] doesn't need to be hierarchical, but it'd be nice [09:52] there's devtodo, but that's console [09:52] no, i want gnome. [09:53] evolution [09:53] check "Tasks" [09:53] i don't use evolution for anything else. [09:54] so what's the problem? [09:54] T-Bone, if evolution is too bloated and slow for me to read email in, i'm certainly not using it for only task list [09:55] srbaker: you want something nice looking with eye candy, nice integration, you use gnome, and you dare complain about evolution's slowlyness and bloatedness? :P [09:55] T-Bone, it's not just the slowness and bloatedness that bothers me :P [09:55] gtodo looks like what i want, i think === LarryT [user101@82.127.83.158] has joined #ubuntu-devel === LarryT [user101@82.127.83.158] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] [10:11] configure:19318: Looking for Python version >= 2.3 [10:11] configure:19338: checking for python [10:11] configure:19356: found /usr/bin/python [10:11] configure:19368: result: /usr/bin/python [10:11] Traceback (most recent call last): [10:12] File "", line 7, in ? File "/usr/lib/python2.4/string.py", line 403, in atoi [10:12] return _int(s, base) ValueError: invalid literal for int(): 1a0 [10:12] [10:13] jdub, debian/control and configure.ac seem not to be in sync at all [10:14] hrm? [10:15] oops [10:15] i mistook something for something else ;-) [10:16] (this is flumotion 0.1.5, it has built previously, i'm just trying to get it to build again) === jani [~pet@Home03207.cluj.astral.ro] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:29] hi jani, long time no see ;-) [10:32] hello :) === ironwolf [~ironwolf@c-24-6-169-124.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:34] metalikop, cfv looks quite ok... i give it a test build [10:35] It seems that Muin for a long time in Hoary will not install since its linked against libflac4, and libflac4 is not in Hoary. Does the Muin in Hoary need libflac4, or is it just a bug that it tries to compile to the wrong libflac? [10:35] thx [10:35] jani, metalikop, whiprush: i hope you understand, if i want to hear the opinion of another MOTU for the NEW packages, alright? [10:35] sure === LarryT-ubuntu [user101@82.127.83.158] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:37] dholbach :absolutely [10:38] rock [10:38] whiprush, i didnt look at them yet... i just wanted to make clear, i wouldnt decide on them on my own [10:38] no problem, I'm not in a rush [10:38] metalikop, in cfv: Standards-Version: >=3.6.1 (you should throw out ">=") [10:39] k [10:41] dholbach: re-uploaded [10:43] metalikop, sorry: one more thing, use Build-Depends-Indep instead of Build-Depends to get rid of the last lintian-warning ("lintian -ci cfv_1.18.1-0ubuntu1.dsc" will show you, why) [10:45] metalikop, apart from that: nice work - another test build and you'll have another package to tick off :-) === jani [~pet@Home03207.cluj.astral.ro] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [11:06] metalikop, duplicity was fine - just uploaded it [11:06] whiprush, i'll look after pysol, while metalikop gets cfv sorted [11:07] ok. [11:07] bbiab === T-Bone is now known as T-Gone [11:11] whiprush, you have no .orig.tar.gz - pysol*.dsc tells me something about pysol_4.82.1-2ubuntu1.tar.gz - you should get pysol_4.82.1.orig.tar.gz and debuild -S again [11:12] hey all [11:12] hi dholbach [11:12] hi sivan! [11:12] what's up?! ;-) [11:12] sivang, reviewing packages ;-) [11:12] dholbach: an nice :) === sid77 [~sid77@ppp-198-138.30-151.libero.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:15] ciao [11:15] hi sid77 [11:28] dholbach: new cfv up === bulio [bulio@Ottawa-HSE-ppp4095099.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:33] does Ubuntu have any support for Usb Dsl modems? [11:33] metalikop, looks good [11:36] great. [11:36] does Ubuntu have any support for Usb Dsl modems? [11:36] oops nvm [11:37] duplicity is awaiting checkout as well [11:37] is waiting to be checked out [11:37] bulio, /usr/share/doc/kernel-doc-/Documentation should tell you === aeonphive [~AeonOne@S0106000f6639f806.ca.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:38] well I'm going to use Ubuntu live for the moment [11:38] metalikop, already uploaded it, it was good [11:39] great [11:41] metalikop, katie should get in touch with you :-) [11:41] katie? [11:41] metalikop, 2 packages to tick off - i wonder how much are still remaining === Kaloz_ [kaloz@arrakis.dune.hu] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:43] metalikop: katie is elmo's gf, she sends email back to people who uploaded pkgs IIRC :)) [11:43] ahhh [11:43] :) [11:44] metalikop: you should get mail from Ubuntu Installer [11:44] :-) [11:45] i'll watch for it [11:46] dholbach: katie only talks to whitelisted guys ;) [11:46] ogra, nope... then she's been untrue to you ;-) [11:47] ogra, i got mails for "sponsored uploads" as well [11:47] https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Uploads [11:47] The archive scripts will only send mail (e.g. ACCEPT/REJECT notification) to a white-listed address. [11:49] ogra, you remember, when you waited for an upload receipt, when you uploaded a package for me? [11:49] dholbach: the "sponsored uploads" go to all whitelisted adresses [11:49] i meant that mail - katie sends it as well [11:49] oh damn... yes - he should be on hoary-changes then [11:50] dholbach: every MOTU/dev should ;) [11:50] #its essential [11:50] i'm on hoary-changes === dholbach puts on some sunglasses, pulls out his men-in-black--makes-you-forget--stick, FIZZ and normal life continues... [11:51] huh ? [11:51] what happened ? where i my log ? === dholbach deletes the last 4 minute out of the logs as well :-) [11:51] is even *G* [11:52] dholbach: lfm is waiting for you :) [11:52] dholbach: katie doesn't love me, she never sends me mail.. === T-Gone is now known as T-Bone === dholbach comforts ajmitch a bit [11:52] same location dholbach [11:52] ajmitch: so you are not whitelisted ? [11:53] ogra: I'm not sure, I use the address that I told elmo to whitelist [11:53] metalikop, i give bluefish some loving [11:53] metalikop, hope it won't take long [11:53] no rush [11:53] ajmitch: upload@ubuntulinux.org ? [11:53] hm? [11:54] ajmitch: did you send it there ? [11:54] yep [11:54] ah, ok [11:54] iirc :)