=== Kaloz [kaloz@arrakis.dune.hu] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:18] metalikop, nice work on lfm [12:18] thanks [12:18] metalikop, since seb128 is the maintainer, i'll ask him before i upload it, alright? [12:18] sure thing, I already dropped him an email, no response yet [12:19] metalikop, he'll be here tomorrow i guess [12:19] no worries, maybe he'll check his email before then ;) [12:20] metalikop, and he'll give his ok, i'm sure [12:20] thanks [12:20] metalikop, de rien :-) [12:22] whiprush, ping [12:22] pong [12:22] working on that now. [12:22] whiprush, cool === sm [~simon@lsanca1.ar5-4.15.71.34.lsanca1.dsl-verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:35] dholbach: imgsizer is ready to be tested [12:38] metalikop, right [12:43] dholbach: I have a question for you.... [12:43] I'm working on mma (a midi program) [12:43] metalikop, fire away [12:44] the debian version is 0.11, a new version exists. I figured I might as well update to 0.12 as well. [12:44] The author has the docs in a seperate .tar.gz file. [12:44] you did the same with cfv [12:44] ah ok [12:45] What's the method for including the mma-docs.tar.gz in to this package? [12:45] metalikop, how is the packaging handled atm? [12:46] metalikop, does upstreams *-docs.tgz contain this: html mma-lib.pdf mma.pdf mma-tutorial.pdf README [12:46] ? [12:47] there's one for pdfs and one for html [12:47] so multiple docs tars [12:47] *grmbl* [12:48] yeah.... [12:48] then you should better get in touch with the according DD [12:48] perhaps he added them all in one .tar file? [12:49] that's a really bad thing "guessing how the maintainer compiled '*.orig.tar.gz'" [12:49] indeed, I'll contact him [12:50] nice - will the python transition be complicated? === bronson [~bronson@node-40240852.sjc.onnet.us.uu.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:52] metalikop, you could add imgsizer.manpages === bronson [~bronson@node-40240852.sjc.onnet.us.uu.net] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Client] === amu [amu@amu.developer.debian] has joined #ubuntu-devel === aeonphive [~AeonOne@S0106000f6639f806.ca.shawcable.net] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === sm is now known as sm-afk [01:15] anyone want to try a patch to dpatch? [01:17] zul, what is it about? [01:17] colorizes the patch output message result [01:18] zul, where can i get it? [01:18] http://zulinux.homelinux.net/ubuntu/dpatch-color.diff [01:19] back up your dpatch though [01:19] lol, indeed a simple patch :) === T-Bone wonders if it works on any terminal actually === Astharot [~isager@host251-99.pool8252.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:24] dholbach: what should that file contain? Just a list of the manpages provided by this app? [01:25] yes, like debian/imgsizer.1 [01:26] a manpage is already provided [01:26] should I move the current imgsizer.1 in the source directory to ${SOURCE}/debian/ ? [01:27] no... if it is provided by upstream === jlj [~agp@host-81-191-64-79.bluecom.no] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:27] it's provided upstream [01:27] dh_installman imgsizer.1 [01:27] you changed debian/rules to say dh_installman -p [01:27] that's already in there [01:28] without the -p [01:28] - dh_installmanpages [01:28] + dh_installman imgsizer.1 [01:28] this is, what changed from 2.7-1 to 2.7-1ubuntu1 [01:28] right, is that correct? the ubunu1 version [01:29] this is why i mentioned you could add debian/imgsizer.manpages [01:32] metalikop, it was just a suggestion :-) [01:34] how can i close a bug in malone? [01:36] is the imgsizer.manpages the preferred method? [01:36] metalikop, yes... i think so [01:38] dholbach: ok, new stuff uploaded [01:39] whiprush, cool [01:40] if someone could teach me, how to close https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone/tasks/157 [01:42] dholbach: intersting there seems to be no option for this [01:42] dholbach: talk to bradb [01:43] dholbach: anyway, I'm out for some weekend fun, ;aterz daniel! [01:43] whiprush, in debian/control s/python2\.3\-tk/python2\.4\-tk/ [01:43] sivang, what are you going to do? [01:43] k [01:43] sivang, thanks for the hint to bradb [01:43] dholbach: watch a dvd movie I brought from the dvd store [01:44] dholbach: trying to set up ogle right now, since mplayer erros when trying to that :) [01:44] sivang, what about totem? doesnt it work? [01:45] whiprush, you could also try Build-Depends-Indep instead of Build-Depends [01:45] dholbach: I'll try, c'ya! [01:45] ok [01:46] sivang, bye! :-) [01:46] odd, mine shows as Build-Depends-Indep [01:46] you're talking in debian/control right? === dholbach [~daniel@td9091b78.pool.terralink.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:05] re [02:05] wb === oz_ [~oz@c211-30-37-88.belrs1.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:13] metalikop, whiprush: i think i'm going to bed... drop me a line when you finished the packages and i'll look over them tomorrow, ok? [02:15] sleep tight everyone, i'm off to bed [02:16] okey === dholbach [~daniel@td9091b78.pool.terralink.de] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Verlassend"] === T-Bone is now known as T-None === Lovechild [~dnielsen@82.150.72.35] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:00] Hmm. If this QEmu accelerator thing is as shit-hot as the author claims, someone should convince Mark to buy the source [03:03] mjg59: (someone's trying) [03:05] Heh === srbaker [~srbaker@blk-215-89-73.eastlink.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Safari_Al [~tr@ppp47-105.lns1.adl1.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === azeem_ [~mbanck@socks-out.lrz-muenchen.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:43] grrr...inotify === mroth [~mroth@mroth.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sm-afk is now known as sm === usual [~colin@cpe-24-194-197-133.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === usual [~colin@cpe-24-194-197-133.nycap.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-devel ["What] === ogra [~ogra@pD95F8E1B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nasdaq|away [sdfsdfs@tkp-ip-nas-1-p129.telkom-ipnet.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lupusBE [~lupus@dD5E03E4A.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Arrogance [~aks@CPE0050ba556e4b-CM001225423850.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === usual [~colin@cpe-24-194-197-133.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === usual [~colin@cpe-24-194-197-133.nycap.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-devel ["What] === Astharot [~isager@host251-99.pool8252.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === srbaker [~srbaker@blk-215-89-73.eastlink.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel === srbaker [~srbaker@blk-215-89-73.eastlink.ca] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === sm is now known as smzzZ === srbaker [~srbaker@blk-215-89-73.eastlink.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel === srbaker [~srbaker@blk-215-89-73.eastlink.ca] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === Safari_Al [~tr@ppp47-105.lns1.adl1.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === abelli [~abelli@host-84-222-38-31.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dholbach [~daniel@td9091b78.pool.terralink.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:20] hai === janc [~janc@dD57626D8.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === olivier [~olivier@62.212.96.56] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:27] greetings [09:27] hi olivier [09:28] moin [09:32] metalikop, imgsizer looks good now, thanks! [09:33] yep. A couple of us helped him straighten them up a couple nights ago. [09:34] with jani, dredg, whiprush and metalikop wiki/UniversePythonTransitionTODO will be done in no time ;-) [09:34] you guys rock! [09:35] :-) [09:37] metalikop, uploaded imgsizer === HostingGeek [~1337@200.48.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:07] I got no reply from nvu or from linex [10:07] about nvu [10:08] also now that i have looked at nvu source there is no way it can use an already installed firefox unless tha already install firefox has patches [10:10] so the best thing to do would be to minamize everything of firefox it uses and package it as it is [10:16] HostingGeek: or just get the source [10:16] HostingGeek: and hack it into using firefox as-is [10:16] hi Treenaks [10:16] Treenaks: its impossible [10:17] HostingGeek: it can use a patched firefox, right? then it should be possible to hack it into using an unhacked ffox [10:17] Treenaks: unless you patch the current firefox [10:17] Treenaks: the who thing is a patched firefox basicly [10:17] HostingGeek: the best solution is using firefox and vim [10:18] the whole thing is a hacked up fox [10:18] Treenaks: i use firefox + bluefish [10:18] HostingGeek: than someone should step up and re-write it as an xpi for ffox [10:18] Treenaks: its very hard [10:19] Treenaks: have you looked at its source? [10:19] isn't glazman planning to use xulrunner in the future? [10:19] that should be the base for FF 2.0 AFAIK [10:19] also BeeEmm the debian maintainor said he will happly maintain vhcs for ubuntu [10:19] and TB 2.0 [10:20] but as he only has isdn and before uploading it he want to test it out him self he ordered a cd [10:20] and now it after the feature freeze so he can't test [10:21] but this will mean one thing has to move from universe to main [10:22] HostingGeek: why? [10:22] HostingGeek: is it something MOTU can't do? [10:22] Treenaks: he is the maintainor for debian he only just uploaded it to sid its been in experimental for a while [10:23] and it depends on php4-mcrypt [10:23] HostingGeek: so? that can be in universe, just like the other packages [10:23] what's wrong with universe [10:23] and when i was in here last you said that if he maintains it.. it can be in main for a server install [10:23] HostingGeek: main is all about support, not so much about server vs workstation [10:24] Treenaks: i asked him to join [10:24] Treenaks: main means its offically support by ubuntu [10:24] and can be put on a the cd [10:24] HostingGeek: no, main doesn't mean it's on the CD [10:24] HostingGeek: and the CD is quite full already [10:25] s/cd/dvd [10:25] or an extra cd [10:25] or a custem cd for servers [10:25] HostingGeek: still, that doesn't make it "main" instead of universe [10:25] HostingGeek: custom CDs can already contain everything you want.. even custom packages === BeeEmm [~beeemm@bigben.scunc.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:26] wasn't there going to be an offical custom cd for servers? [10:26] I'm not against it being in main, I'm just asking you te be realistic... if the Ubuntu people won't support it, it won't be in main [10:26] not for hoary but for 5.10 [10:26] HostingGeek: hoary /is/ 5.10 [10:26] uh no 5.04 [10:26] hoary+1 you mean [10:26] lol [10:26] still, small chance [10:27] BeeEmm is still wait for his cds [10:27] BeeEmm: read the CD FAQ then [10:28] Treenaks: what was this thing about a server cd [10:28] better burn one yourself and send him if it has to be there fast... [10:28] HostingGeek: read the wiki [10:28] which doesn't include the the desktop [10:28] 10:28 < Treenaks> HostingGeek: read the wiki [10:29] Treenaks: yes and why can't vhcs be part of this cd? and if it can it must mean it has to be in main [10:29] ok [10:29] HostingGeek, there is no server-cd - when you install, you can take the "custom" route to install a cropped-down amount of packages [10:29] dholbach: he's talking about hoary+1 [10:30] Treenaks, ah ok [10:30] dholbach: i know but i remeber here that there was an idea for a server cd which includes anything server realated in main but not in universe [10:31] HostingGeek, well then Treenaks is right: for ideas on this, the wiki will be the best guess [10:31] also are we going to see in the a search engine by default in the ubuntu build of firefox that searches the ubuntu site? [10:32] HostingGeek, you could file a wishlist bug on this [10:33] but BeeEmm is the _debian_ maintainor and is happy to make debs for ubuntu [10:33] only thing is i'll like to see them in main [10:33] i am not sure if BeeEmm cares if they are in main or universe [10:34] dholbach: you where replying to my fox comment or vhcs? === mode/#ubuntu-devel [+o daniels] by ChanServ === mode/#ubuntu-devel [+b *!*1337@*.48.233.220.exetel.com.au] by daniels === HostingGeek was kicked off #ubuntu-devel by daniels (daniels) === mode/#ubuntu-devel [-o daniels] by daniels === Todd_MA_1975 [~Todd_MA_1@h000f6632661b.ne.client2.attbi.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mode/#ubuntu-devel [+o daniels] by ChanServ === mode/#ubuntu-devel [+b *!*@200.48.233.220.exetel.com.au] by daniels === mode/#ubuntu-devel [-o daniels] by daniels [10:47] daniels, may i ask, why you kicked him? [10:48] i mean, i didnt really enjoy the conversation [10:48] dholbach: he has a habit of persistently making #ubuntu-devel absolutely useless by flooding it with total nonsense [10:48] (there are other bans active on him; he just slipped through them) [10:48] oh i see, so he doesn't seem to be impressed by bans in general [10:50] apparently not [10:51] ok... it's alright with me... just wanted to know :-) === olivier is now known as olivier_away [11:05] ogra: ? === website [~website@host1-45.pool8251.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:18] what's the most common way to add a .png to a package? [11:18] if i do it "right" (not messing with orig.tar.gz), i run into "dpkg-source: cannot represent change to pixmaps/gparted.png: binary file contents changed" [11:18] use uuencode/uudecode [11:18] if you have to add it to the diff, you can uuencode === azeem_ is now known as azeem [11:19] but that sort of thing sounds pretty upstreamy [11:19] they have their logo competition still going on :-) [11:20] but a menu entry without an icon looks dumb [11:20] yay for logo competitions [11:20] azeem, bob2: thanks for the clue [11:33] elmo, you also send the mail to -users? === abelli [~abelli@host-84-222-38-31.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === herzi [~herzi@d024168.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tuo2 [~foo@218-215-13-162.people.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:25] bbl === seb128 [~seb128@ANancy-151-1-7-239.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lupusBE [~lupus@dD57729A4.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:48] elmo: ? [12:49] morning ogra! [12:49] hi === HiddenWolf [~hidde@136.161.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:49] seb128? [12:50] ? [12:51] Can it be that the window selector unlocks itself from panel every reboot? [12:51] workplace switcher, ugh. [12:52] no idea, I don't look on what is locked or not when I start my session [12:52] right click on the applet [12:52] and look in the menu [12:52] I've found it unlocked a couple of times. Is yours? === dgp [~danilo@adsl-ull-213-52.46-151.net24.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:53] no idea, I don't look on what is locked or not when I start my session [12:54] *sigh* [12:54] I don't even think I've one applet locked [12:54] ok [12:55] seb128, metalikop worked a bit on lfm (python2.4, ..) - and i approved his changes - since you are the maintainer, is it ok, when i upload it? [12:55] seb128, i could send you the debdiff in a /query [12:56] I got a mail about the package [12:56] you need to version the Build-Depends on python-dev to 2.4 [12:56] out of this that's fine, go for it [12:59] seb128, the buildd should resolve the Depends itself, so a rebuild would suffice [01:00] that's not a reason to do the wrong things [01:01] you use 2.4 in debian/rules, you should version the Build-Depends [01:01] so you would tighten the build-depends and not let it compile with python2.3 anymore? [01:01] you have 2.4 in debian/rules [01:01] oh... yes [01:01] oh alright [01:01] you can change debian/rules to no use a static version [01:02] or update the Build-Depends [01:02] but the current situation is wrong [01:02] ok... i'll tell him [01:02] thanks :) [01:03] he also fixed 2 lintian warnings, so apart from the python stuff, he did well === Simira [rpGirl@m146i.studby.ntnu.no] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tseng wonders why people send me bug reports via email === Todd_MA_1975 [~Todd_MA_1@h000f6632661b.ne.client2.attbi.com] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === enrico [~enrico@enrico.developer.debian] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ironwolf [~ironwolf@c-24-6-169-124.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zul [~chuck@CPE0006258ec6c2-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:38] hi zul [02:38] hey dholbach [02:39] oooh....ahhh 2.6.10-4 === herzi [~herzi@d043071.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Lovechild [~dnielsen@82.150.72.35] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zenrox [~zenrox@wbar7.sea-4-12-028-223.dsl-verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === neofeed [~moritz@pD9575B6B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:10] zul: Where? [03:16] on my pc [03:17] mjg59: i had to merge a couple of acpi patches though [03:20] Kamion: ping [03:20] lamont: ping [03:21] zul: Ah, ok [03:22] hm, sleep time === zenrox [~zenrox@wbar7.sea-4-12-028-223.dsl-verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === marcin_ant [~marcin@www.e-dev.tele2.pl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:33] hi all [03:34] hi sivan! [03:37] hi dholbach , still reviewing packages? [03:37] sivang, no... finished (until whiprush and metalikop wake up) :-)) [03:38] sivang, now i'm taking care of mine... and learning how to things properly :-) [03:39] dholbach: well, it's still sunday, you should go and have some time out :) === usual [~colin@cpe-24-194-198-205.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:40] sivang, will take murphy for a walk :-) [03:40] dholbach: my rgrds to her [03:43] cdbs rocks [03:43] i'm simply amazed === dwa_ [~dwa@dwa.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sid77 [~sid77@ppp-209-166.30-151.libero.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === olivier_away is now known as olivier [03:59] ciao === fwiffo [~jep@cpe.atm2-0-1101155.0x503f8eca.bynxx8.customer.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ironwolf [~ironwolf@c-24-6-169-124.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:04] mc [04:04] oops [04:08] amu, you're aware of (kdelibs-data: /etc/xdg/menus/applications.menu zu berschreiben, which is in "gnome-menus" as well) already? [04:17] dholbach: yep [04:17] amu, good === ironwolf [~ironwolf@c-24-6-169-124.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === stratus [~stratus@200165215072.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jbailey [~jbailey@CPE000ded9d787c-CM014260028338.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === opi [~emil@195.69.82.35] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:36] amu, yes.. i think i just have k3b and another app installed === ironwolf [~ironwolf@c-24-6-169-124.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:46] seb128: hi, going over the g-c-m bugs I see most of them are upstream bugs, so basically we don't have too much specific problems local to ubuntu. [04:47] sivang: right === ironwolf [~ironwolf@c-24-6-169-124.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:51] bbl === dholbach [~daniel@td9091b78.pool.terralink.de] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Verlassend"] === pitti [~martin@box79162.elkhouse.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:53] Hi [04:53] pitti: Hi Marint! [04:53] err, Martin [04:53] Hi Svinag :-) [04:53] pitti: hehhe [04:54] sivang: just returned from skiing, was nice today [04:54] hey pitti [04:54] pitti: wow, cool [04:54] Hi zul [04:54] where did you go skiing? [04:56] afternoon pitti [04:56] Hi seb128, how's Luxembourg today? :-) [04:57] zul: in the vicinity of us, about 5 km away [04:57] cool [04:57] zul: "Poisenwald" :-) [04:57] pitti: no idea, usually I stay on the french side of the border :p [04:57] seb128: oh, ok :-) [04:58] seb128: ah, you live _near_ the border, but not _within Lux., right? [04:58] yep, about 20km from the border [05:00] morning all [05:00] seb128: thanks for your email [05:00] hi metalikop [05:00] np, thank you for working on this :) === doko [~doko___@dsl-084-057-108-161.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === winkle [~winkle@lgh3814234.vittran.norrnod.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel === azeem_ [~mbanck@socks-out.lrz-muenchen.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === usual [~colin@cpe-24-194-198-205.nycap.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-devel ["What] === marcin_ant [~marcin@www.e-dev.tele2.pl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jk [~jochem@jkossen.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === da_bon_bon [~rohandhru@210.18.160.134] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:17] anyone here installed vmware from tarball ? === T-None is now known as T-Bone === HiddenWolf [~hidde@136.161.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:29] is bugzilla down? [05:30] sivang: seems to be [05:30] sivang: was a notice about it on -devel [05:30] HiddenWolf: yeah I saw it, tnx. [05:30] sivang: you should read -dev more often ;) [05:31] zul: I read it , just forgot to do timezone calculations :) [05:31] zul: it's always open on my mutt :) [05:31] date --utc :) [05:32] zul: right :) === HiddenWolf wonders how long the upgrade will last, considering how ubuntu is exploding in popularity === eruin [~eruin@eruin.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:39] Can someone here put in the #ubuntu topic that the servers are down for maintenance? === tritium [~tritium@12-202-90-180.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === abelli [~abelli@host-84-222-38-31.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:46] seb128, you here? === dholbach [~daniel@td9091b78.pool.terralink.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:58] re [05:59] dholbach, can you change the topic in #ubuntu? [05:59] HiddenWolf, i don't think so [05:59] *sigh* [06:00] HiddenWolf, what's wrong with it? [06:00] It's overflowing with concerned users who can't update their warty's [06:00] Which was to be expected, seeing that ubuntu.com is down for maintenance === smurfix [~smurf@run.smurf.noris.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === farruinn [~nathan@cpe-69-201-9-15.twcny.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === BlackHussar [~BlackHuss@dsl081-081-225.lax1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:33] HiddenWolf: how many people read the topic? heh. [06:35] tseng, you said, what i thought :-) [06:36] tseng: read the topic is shorter than explaining the entire thing. :-P === smzzZ is now known as sm === abelli [~abelli@host-84-222-38-31.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === abelli [~abelli@host-84-222-38-31.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Todd_MA_1971 [~Todd_MA_1@h000f6632661b.ne.client2.attbi.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dgp [~danilo@adsl-ull-213-52.46-151.net24.it] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === abelli [~abelli@host-84-222-38-31.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === azeem [~mbanck@socks-out.lrz-muenchen.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === website [~website@host1-45.pool8251.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mxpxpod [~bryan@65.243.233.2] has joined #ubuntu-devel === gro [~gro@ip-212-239-167-225.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === azeem_ [~mbanck@socks-out.lrz-muenchen.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === [m0rph] [~morph@p83.129.211.63.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === elmo_ [~james@82.211.81.249] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:48] amu: ping === jaco [~jaco@host26-251.pool80117.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mxpxpod [~bryan@mxpxpod.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:01] <[m0rph] > hi, the new version of kdelibs in hoary overwrites the gnome /etc/xdg/menus/applications.menu [08:02] [m0rph] , the problem is known [08:03] <[m0rph] > dholbach: oh, good [08:06] and a solution worked on === zenrox [~zenrox@wbar7.sea-4-12-028-223.dsl-verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mxpxpod [~bryan@mxpxpod.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Arrogance [~aks@CPE0050ba556e4b-CM001225423850.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dholbach [~daniel@td9091cbd.pool.terralink.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mimya [~mimya@host81-156-31-240.range81-156.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Picola [~Picola@adsl-69-232-57-25.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Picola [~Picola@adsl-69-232-57-25.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [08:35] anyone have a gphoto2 camera handy? [08:36] yes [08:36] wait, define "gphoto2 camera" [08:36] a camera that allows you to properly import photos using gphoto2 [08:36] ok [08:36] care do to a bit of testing for me? [08:36] or rather, a camera supported in gphoto2 [08:36] sure, do i have to be running ubuntu? :) [08:37] yep, hoary even [08:37] i suppose i could set up a chroot [08:37] hm that would take awhile, this is an X app [08:38] probably not that long [08:38] but i guess i should be doing homework instead [08:38] heh, that comes first certainly [08:39] if someone has hoary and a camera and wants to test gphoto2 import with f-spot.. ping me [08:39] oh, it's just in f-spot 0.0.8? [08:39] yep. [08:40] someone mailed me a bug report saying it does: [08:40] Unhandled Exception: System.DllNotFoundException: libgphoto2.so [08:40] in <0x00053> (wrapper managed-to-native) [08:40] which I'm guessing is because libgphoto2-2 provides /usr/lib/libgphoto2.so.2 === zul [~chuck@CPE0006258ec6c2-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:42] hola [08:44] hi zul [08:44] hey dholbach [08:45] tseng: there are a ton of DllImport("libgphoto2.so")s all over libgphoto2-sharp [08:45] so yes, it's going to fail if libgphoto2-dev isn't installed [08:46] ari: yep. [08:46] but the bit in -dev is just a symlink [08:46] right [08:47] interesting dilema, which package do I fix :P [08:47] f-stop? [08:48] er, f-spot [08:50] perhaps. I'm wondering how other apps find the right lib if we dont provide a symlink along with the runtime [08:50] know any other libgphoto2 apps? [08:52] there are no other C# apps that use gphoto2 [08:52] tseng: does mono not do some .so mapping? [08:52] doesnt have to be C# specifically [08:52] regular C apps just link with the library [08:52] and they use the system linker, so they're found correctly [08:53] of course they do, heh. [08:53] but you want to use .so.2, no .so [08:53] not [08:53] ajmitch: there are foo.config.exe [08:54] /etc/mono/config appears to have some mappings there === ajmitch cannot recall what the procedure is meant to be for libs :) [08:55] yes, you can make those per .exe as well [08:55] but im not sure you can for a dll [08:55] anyway, I've got an exam in a few min, will bbl [08:55] we can certainly patch the source to hardcode .so.2 === dholbach [~daniel@td9091c70.pool.terralink.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:56] just.. there must be a more portable way I'd imagine. [08:56] that's nasty [08:56] ill talk to larry about it later. [09:05] thanks for helping out also, ari === marco_g [~marco@mgerards.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:12] hi === website [~website@host1-45.pool8251.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ogra [~ogra@pD95F8E1B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:16] Hai ogra [09:16] hi pitti [09:16] ogra! :) [09:21] dholbach: who is working on a solution to the applications.menu issue? [09:21] Riddell, talked to amu about it some hours ago [09:22] dholbach: what did he say? [09:23] Riddell, nothing specific... [09:24] ok === seb128 [~seb128@ANancy-151-1-8-176.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Lovechild [~dnielsen@82.150.72.35] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:52] ajmitch: ahh, you can have a .dll.config [09:52] ajmitch: issue solved. === usual [~colin@cpe-69-204-160-50.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:57] seb128: I've just fixed a bug in my f-spot package [09:59] k [10:00] its ubuntu3 if you would be so kind as to look at it at some point [10:00] what was the outcome of your talk with the maintainer? === elmo_ [~james@george.kkhotels.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === eruin [~eruin@eruin.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:37] i'm out running... bbl === sid77 [~sid77@ppp-161-132.30-151.libero.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === T-Bone is now known as T-None === HiddenWolf [~hidde@136.161.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === srbaker [~srbaker@blk-215-89-73.eastlink.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:22] daniels: yo === website [~website@host1-45.pool8251.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === winkle [~winkle@lgh3814234.vittran.norrnod.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel === usual [~colin@cpe-69-204-160-50.nycap.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-devel ["What] === jaco [~jaco@host26-251.pool80117.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:38] hey Kamion how is it going? [11:44] not bad, just back from visiting in-laws === pitti sends the long-awaited PostgreSQL announcement [11:44] ... and back to find a PuTTY security advisory. Er, yay. [11:44] putty for windows? === dholbach [~daniel@td9091c70.pool.terralink.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:45] putty runs on Unix too [11:45] bleah... === Kamion packages === Keybuk [~scott@halo.netsplit.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === deki_ [proxy@p54A16EA4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:54] hallo [11:55] i recompiled the kernel to test if the window rebuild gets quicker [11:55] i think i have found the reason why mandrake's grafikal interface is much quicker then that of ubuntu [11:55] their's libqt is linked against libgl [11:57] implying that if the user has a hardware-accelerated GL set, then it's faster? I'm not sure how that would make Mandrake's "grafikal interface" faster on my S3 Virge, for instance [11:57] hmm [11:57] i don't know why but i say you the result: the windows rebuild is very very slow on ubuntu hoary comapred to mandrake 10.0 [11:57] on same system [11:58] i have nvidia geforce 4mx [11:58] the mandrake has some older xfree version [11:58] something like 4.3.xxx [11:58] how can you explain it? [11:59] when i have one window like mozilla firefox [11:59] then i take xchat [11:59] and move it on top of mozilla [11:59] then i see a very big traces [11:59] moving traces [11:59] the system does not do anything [11:59] the cpu is idling [12:00] i get same effekt only when mandrake is loaded with compiing of something [12:00] so what could be the cause of it? [12:00] this sounds like it ought to be in a bug report or something, not flooded into IRC [12:00] hmm thx