[12:18] <dholbach> metalikop, nice work on lfm
[12:18] <metalikop> thanks
[12:18] <dholbach> metalikop, since seb128 is the maintainer, i'll ask him before i upload it, alright?
[12:18] <metalikop> sure thing, I already dropped him an email, no response yet
[12:19] <dholbach> metalikop, he'll be here tomorrow i guess
[12:19] <metalikop> no worries, maybe he'll check his email before then ;)
[12:20] <dholbach> metalikop, and he'll give his ok, i'm sure
[12:20] <metalikop> thanks
[12:20] <dholbach> metalikop, de rien :-)
[12:22] <dholbach> whiprush, ping
[12:22] <whiprush> pong
[12:22] <whiprush> working on that now.
[12:22] <dholbach> whiprush, cool
[12:35] <metalikop> dholbach: imgsizer is ready to be tested
[12:38] <dholbach> metalikop, right
[12:43] <metalikop> dholbach: I have a question for you....
[12:43] <metalikop> I'm working on mma (a midi program)
[12:43] <dholbach> metalikop, fire away
[12:44] <metalikop> the debian version is 0.11, a new version exists.  I figured I might as well update to 0.12 as well.
[12:44] <metalikop> The author has the docs in a seperate .tar.gz file.
[12:44] <dholbach> you did the same with cfv
[12:44] <dholbach> ah ok
[12:45] <metalikop> What's the method for including the mma-docs.tar.gz in to this package?
[12:45] <dholbach> metalikop, how is the packaging handled atm?
[12:46] <dholbach> metalikop, does upstreams *-docs.tgz contain this: html  mma-lib.pdf  mma.pdf  mma-tutorial.pdf  README
[12:46] <dholbach> ?
[12:47] <metalikop> there's one for pdfs and one for html
[12:47] <metalikop> so multiple docs tars
[12:47] <dholbach> *grmbl*
[12:48] <metalikop> yeah....
[12:48] <dholbach> then you should better get in touch with the according DD
[12:48] <metalikop> perhaps he added them all in one .tar file?
[12:49] <dholbach> that's a really bad thing "guessing how the maintainer compiled '*.orig.tar.gz'"
[12:49] <metalikop> indeed, I'll contact him
[12:50] <dholbach> nice - will the python transition be complicated?
[12:52] <dholbach> metalikop, you could add imgsizer.manpages
[01:15] <zul> anyone want to try a patch to dpatch?
[01:17] <dholbach> zul, what is it about?
[01:17] <zul> colorizes the patch output message result
[01:18] <dholbach> zul, where can i get it?
[01:18] <zul> http://zulinux.homelinux.net/ubuntu/dpatch-color.diff
[01:19] <zul> back up your dpatch though
[01:19] <T-Bone> lol, indeed a simple patch :)
[01:24] <metalikop> dholbach: what should that file contain?  Just a list of the manpages provided by this app?
[01:25] <dholbach> yes, like   debian/imgsizer.1
[01:26] <metalikop> a manpage is already provided
[01:26] <metalikop> should I move the current imgsizer.1 in the source directory to ${SOURCE}/debian/ ?
[01:27] <dholbach> no... if it is provided by upstream
[01:27] <metalikop> it's provided upstream
[01:27] <metalikop> dh_installman imgsizer.1
[01:27] <dholbach> you changed debian/rules to say dh_installman -p<blasomething>
[01:27] <metalikop> that's already in there
[01:28] <metalikop> without the -p
[01:28] <dholbach> -       dh_installmanpages
[01:28] <dholbach> +       dh_installman imgsizer.1
[01:28] <dholbach> this is, what changed from 2.7-1 to 2.7-1ubuntu1
[01:28] <metalikop> right, is that correct?  the ubunu1 version
[01:29] <dholbach> this is why i mentioned you could add debian/imgsizer.manpages
[01:32] <dholbach> metalikop, it was just a suggestion :-)
[01:34] <dholbach> how can i close a bug in malone?
[01:36] <metalikop> is the imgsizer.manpages the preferred method?
[01:36] <dholbach> metalikop, yes... i think so
[01:38] <whiprush> dholbach: ok, new stuff uploaded
[01:39] <dholbach> whiprush, cool
[01:40] <dholbach> if someone could teach me, how to close https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone/tasks/157
[01:42] <sivang> dholbach: intersting there seems to be no option for this
[01:42] <sivang> dholbach: talk to bradb
[01:43] <sivang> dholbach: anyway, I'm out for some weekend fun, ;aterz daniel!
[01:43] <dholbach> whiprush, in  debian/control  s/python2\.3\-tk/python2\.4\-tk/ 
[01:43] <dholbach> sivang, what are you going to do?
[01:43] <whiprush> k
[01:43] <dholbach> sivang, thanks for the hint to bradb
[01:43] <sivang> dholbach: watch a dvd movie I brought from the dvd store
[01:44] <sivang> dholbach: trying to set up ogle right now, since mplayer erros when trying to that :)
[01:44] <dholbach> sivang, what about totem? doesnt it work?
[01:45] <dholbach> whiprush, you could also try   Build-Depends-Indep instead of Build-Depends
[01:45] <sivang> dholbach: I'll try, c'ya!
[01:45] <whiprush> ok
[01:46] <dholbach> sivang, bye! :-)
[01:46] <whiprush> odd, mine shows as Build-Depends-Indep
[01:46] <whiprush> you're talking in debian/control right?
[02:05] <dholbach> re
[02:05] <metalikop> wb
[02:13] <dholbach> metalikop, whiprush: i think i'm going to bed... drop me a line when you finished the packages and i'll look over them tomorrow, ok?
[02:15] <dholbach> sleep tight everyone, i'm off to bed
[02:16] <whiprush> okey
[03:00] <mjg59> Hmm. If this QEmu accelerator thing is as shit-hot as the author claims, someone should convince Mark to buy the source
[03:03] <jdub> mjg59: (someone's trying)
[03:05] <mjg59> Heh
[03:43] <zul> grrr...inotify
[09:20] <dholbach> hai
[09:27] <olivier> greetings
[09:27] <dholbach> hi olivier 
[09:28] <crimsun> moin
[09:32] <dholbach> metalikop, imgsizer looks good now, thanks!
[09:33] <crimsun> yep. A couple of us helped him straighten them up a couple nights ago.
[09:34] <dholbach> with jani, dredg, whiprush and metalikop wiki/UniversePythonTransitionTODO will be done in no time ;-)
[09:34] <dholbach> you guys rock!
[09:35] <crimsun> :-)
[09:37] <dholbach> metalikop, uploaded imgsizer
[10:07] <HostingGeek> I got no reply from nvu or from linex
[10:07] <HostingGeek> about nvu
[10:08] <HostingGeek> also now that i have looked at nvu source there is no way it can use an already installed firefox unless tha already install firefox has patches
[10:10] <HostingGeek> so the best thing to do would be to minamize everything of firefox it uses and package it as it is
[10:16] <Treenaks> HostingGeek: or just get the source
[10:16] <Treenaks> HostingGeek: and hack it into using firefox as-is
[10:16] <dholbach> hi Treenaks 
[10:16] <HostingGeek> Treenaks: its impossible
[10:17] <Treenaks> HostingGeek: it can use a patched firefox, right? then it should be possible to hack it into using an unhacked ffox
[10:17] <HostingGeek> Treenaks: unless you patch the current firefox
[10:17] <HostingGeek> Treenaks: the who thing is a patched firefox basicly
[10:17] <Treenaks> HostingGeek: the best solution is using firefox and vim
[10:18] <HostingGeek> the whole thing is a hacked up fox
[10:18] <HostingGeek> Treenaks: i use firefox + bluefish
[10:18] <Treenaks> HostingGeek: than someone should step up and re-write it as an xpi for ffox
[10:18] <HostingGeek> Treenaks: its very hard
[10:19] <HostingGeek> Treenaks: have you looked at its source?
[10:19] <janc> isn't glazman planning to use xulrunner in the future?
[10:19] <janc> that should be the base for FF 2.0 AFAIK
[10:19] <HostingGeek> also BeeEmm the debian maintainor said he will happly maintain vhcs for ubuntu
[10:19] <janc> and TB 2.0
[10:20] <HostingGeek> but as he only has isdn and before uploading it he want to test it out him self he ordered a cd
[10:20] <HostingGeek> and now it after the feature freeze so he can't test
[10:21] <HostingGeek> but this will mean one thing has to move from universe to main
[10:22] <Treenaks> HostingGeek: why?
[10:22] <Treenaks> HostingGeek: is it something MOTU can't do?
[10:22] <HostingGeek> Treenaks: he is the maintainor for debian he only just uploaded it to sid its been in experimental for a while
[10:23] <HostingGeek> and it depends on php4-mcrypt
[10:23] <Treenaks> HostingGeek: so? that can be in universe, just like the other packages
[10:23] <Treenaks> what's wrong with universe
[10:23] <HostingGeek> and when i was in here last you said that if he maintains it.. it can be in main for a server install
[10:23] <Treenaks> HostingGeek: main is all about support, not so much about server vs workstation
[10:24] <HostingGeek> Treenaks: i asked him to join
[10:24] <HostingGeek> Treenaks: main means its offically support by ubuntu
[10:24] <HostingGeek> and can be put on a the cd
[10:24] <Treenaks> HostingGeek: no, main doesn't mean it's on the CD
[10:24] <Treenaks> HostingGeek: and the CD is quite full already
[10:25] <HostingGeek> s/cd/dvd
[10:25] <HostingGeek> or an extra cd
[10:25] <HostingGeek> or a custem cd for servers
[10:25] <Treenaks> HostingGeek: still, that doesn't make it "main" instead of universe
[10:25] <Treenaks> HostingGeek: custom CDs can already contain everything you want.. even custom packages
[10:26] <HostingGeek> wasn't there going to be an offical custom cd for servers?
[10:26] <Treenaks> I'm not against it being in main, I'm just asking you te be realistic... if the Ubuntu people won't support it, it won't be in main
[10:26] <HostingGeek> not for hoary but for 5.10
[10:26] <Treenaks> HostingGeek: hoary /is/ 5.10
[10:26] <Treenaks> uh no 5.04
[10:26] <Treenaks> hoary+1 you mean
[10:26] <HostingGeek> lol
[10:26] <Treenaks> still, small chance
[10:27] <HostingGeek> BeeEmm is still wait for his cds
[10:27] <Treenaks> BeeEmm: read the CD FAQ then
[10:28] <HostingGeek> Treenaks: what was this thing about a server cd
[10:28] <janc> better burn one yourself and send him if it has to be there fast...
[10:28] <Treenaks> HostingGeek: read the wiki
[10:28] <HostingGeek> which doesn't include the the desktop
[10:28] <Treenaks> 10:28 < Treenaks> HostingGeek: read the wiki
[10:29] <HostingGeek> Treenaks: yes and why can't vhcs be part of this cd? and if it can it must mean it has to be in main
[10:29] <HostingGeek> ok
[10:29] <dholbach> HostingGeek, there is no server-cd - when you install, you can take the "custom" route to install a cropped-down amount of packages
[10:29] <Treenaks> dholbach: he's talking about hoary+1
[10:30] <dholbach> Treenaks, ah ok
[10:30] <HostingGeek> dholbach: i know but i remeber here that there was an idea for a server cd  which includes anything server realated in main but not in universe
[10:31] <dholbach> HostingGeek, well then Treenaks is right: for ideas on this, the wiki will be the best guess
[10:31] <HostingGeek> also are we going to see in the a search engine by default in the ubuntu build of firefox that searches the ubuntu site?
[10:32] <dholbach> HostingGeek, you could file a wishlist bug on this
[10:33] <HostingGeek> but BeeEmm is the _debian_ maintainor and is happy to make debs for ubuntu
[10:33] <HostingGeek> only thing is i'll like to see them in main
[10:33] <HostingGeek> i am not sure if BeeEmm cares if they are in main or universe
[10:34] <HostingGeek> dholbach: you where replying to my fox comment or vhcs?
[10:47] <dholbach> daniels, may i ask, why you kicked him?
[10:48] <dholbach> i mean, i didnt really enjoy the conversation
[10:48] <daniels> dholbach: he has a habit of persistently making #ubuntu-devel absolutely useless by flooding it with total nonsense
[10:48] <daniels> (there are other bans active on him; he just slipped through them)
[10:48] <dholbach> oh i see, so he doesn't seem to be impressed by bans in general
[10:50] <daniels> apparently not
[10:51] <dholbach> ok... it's alright with me... just wanted to know :-)
[11:05] <elmo> ogra: ?
[11:18] <dholbach> what's the most common way to add a .png to a package?
[11:18] <dholbach> if i do it "right" (not messing with orig.tar.gz), i run into "dpkg-source: cannot represent change to pixmaps/gparted.png: binary file contents changed"
[11:18] <azeem_> use uuencode/uudecode
[11:18] <bob2> if you have to add it to the diff, you can uuencode
[11:19] <bob2> but that sort of thing sounds pretty upstreamy
[11:19] <dholbach> they have their logo competition still going on :-)
[11:20] <dholbach> but a menu entry without an icon looks dumb
[11:20] <azeem> yay for logo competitions
[11:20] <dholbach> azeem, bob2: thanks for the clue
[11:33] <dholbach> elmo, you also send the mail to -users?
[12:25] <dholbach> bbl
[12:48] <ogra> elmo: ?
[12:49] <dholbach> morning ogra!
[12:49] <ogra> hi
[12:49] <HiddenWolf> seb128?
[12:50] <seb128> ?
[12:51] <HiddenWolf> Can it be that the window selector unlocks itself from panel every reboot?
[12:51] <HiddenWolf> workplace switcher, ugh. 
[12:52] <seb128> no idea, I don't look on what is locked or not when I start my session
[12:52] <seb128> right click on the applet
[12:52] <seb128> and look in the menu
[12:52] <HiddenWolf> I've found it unlocked a couple of times. Is yours?
 no idea, I don't look on what is locked or not when I start my session
[12:54] <HiddenWolf> *sigh*
[12:54] <seb128> I don't even think I've one applet locked
[12:54] <HiddenWolf> ok
[12:55] <dholbach> seb128, metalikop worked a bit on  lfm  (python2.4, ..) - and i approved his changes - since you are the maintainer, is it ok, when i upload it?
[12:55] <dholbach> seb128, i could send you the debdiff in a /query
[12:56] <seb128> I got a mail about the package
[12:56] <seb128> you need to version the Build-Depends on python-dev to 2.4
[12:56] <seb128> out of this that's fine, go for it
[12:59] <dholbach> seb128, the buildd should resolve the Depends itself, so a rebuild would suffice
[01:00] <seb128> that's not a reason to do the wrong things
[01:01] <seb128> you use 2.4 in debian/rules, you should version the Build-Depends
[01:01] <dholbach> so you would tighten the build-depends and not let it compile with python2.3 anymore?
[01:01] <seb128> you have 2.4 in debian/rules
[01:01] <dholbach> oh... yes
[01:01] <dholbach> oh alright
[01:01] <seb128> you can change debian/rules to no use a static version
[01:02] <seb128> or update the Build-Depends
[01:02] <seb128> but the current situation is wrong
[01:02] <dholbach> ok... i'll tell him
[01:02] <seb128> thanks :)
[01:03] <dholbach> he also fixed 2 lintian warnings, so apart from the python stuff, he did well
[02:38] <dholbach> hi zul 
[02:38] <zul> hey dholbach 
[02:39] <zul> oooh....ahhh 2.6.10-4
[03:10] <mjg59> zul: Where?
[03:16] <zul> on my pc
[03:17] <zul> mjg59: i had to merge a couple of acpi patches though
[03:20] <daniels> Kamion: ping
[03:20] <daniels> lamont: ping
[03:21] <mjg59> zul: Ah, ok
[03:22] <daniels> hm, sleep time
[03:33] <sivang> hi all
[03:34] <dholbach> hi sivan!
[03:37] <sivang> hi dholbach , still reviewing packages?
[03:37] <dholbach> sivang, no... finished (until whiprush and metalikop wake up) :-))
[03:38] <dholbach> sivang, now i'm taking care of mine... and learning how to things properly :-)
[03:39] <sivang> dholbach: well, it's still sunday, you should go and have some time out :)
[03:40] <dholbach> sivang, will take murphy for a walk :-)
[03:40] <sivang> dholbach: my rgrds to her 
[03:43] <dholbach> cdbs rocks
[03:43] <dholbach> i'm simply amazed
[03:59] <sid77> ciao
[04:04] <dholbach> mc
[04:04] <dholbach> oops
[04:08] <dholbach> amu, you're aware of (kdelibs-data: /etc/xdg/menus/applications.menu zu berschreiben, which is in "gnome-menus" as well) already?
[04:17] <amu> dholbach: yep
[04:17] <dholbach> amu, good
[04:36] <dholbach> amu, yes.. i think i just have k3b and another app installed
[04:46] <sivang> seb128: hi, going over the g-c-m bugs I see most of them are upstream bugs, so basically we don't have too much specific problems local to ubuntu.
[04:47] <seb128> sivang: right
[04:51] <dholbach> bbl
[04:53] <pitti> Hi
[04:53] <sivang> pitti: Hi Marint!
[04:53] <sivang> err, Martin
[04:53] <pitti> Hi Svinag :-)
[04:53] <sivang> pitti: hehhe
[04:54] <pitti> sivang: just returned from skiing, was nice today
[04:54] <zul> hey pitti 
[04:54] <sivang> pitti: wow, cool
[04:54] <pitti> Hi zul
[04:54] <zul> where did you go skiing?
[04:56] <seb128> afternoon pitti 
[04:56] <pitti> Hi seb128, how's Luxembourg today? :-)
[04:57] <pitti> zul: in the vicinity of us, about 5 km away
[04:57] <zul> cool
[04:57] <pitti> zul: "Poisenwald" :-)
[04:57] <seb128> pitti: no idea, usually I stay on the french side of the border :p
[04:57] <pitti> seb128: oh, ok :-)
[04:58] <pitti> seb128: ah, you live _near_ the border, but not _within Lux., right?
[04:58] <seb128> yep, about 20km from the border
[05:00] <metalikop> morning all
[05:00] <metalikop> seb128: thanks for your email
[05:00] <seb128> hi metalikop 
[05:00] <seb128> np, thank you for working on this :)
[05:17] <da_bon_bon> anyone here installed vmware from tarball ?
[05:29] <sivang> is bugzilla down?
[05:30] <HiddenWolf> sivang: seems to be
[05:30] <HiddenWolf> sivang: was a notice about it on -devel
[05:30] <sivang> HiddenWolf: yeah I saw it, tnx.
[05:30] <zul> sivang: you should read -dev more often ;)
[05:31] <sivang> zul: I read it , just forgot to do timezone calculations :)
[05:31] <sivang> zul: it's always open on my mutt :)
[05:31] <zul>  date --utc :)
[05:32] <sivang> zul: right :)
[05:39] <HiddenWolf> Can someone here put in the #ubuntu topic that the servers are down for maintenance?
[05:46] <HiddenWolf> seb128, you here?
[05:58] <dholbach> re
[05:59] <HiddenWolf> dholbach, can you change the topic in #ubuntu?
[05:59] <dholbach> HiddenWolf, i don't think so
[05:59] <HiddenWolf> *sigh*
[06:00] <dholbach> HiddenWolf, what's wrong with it?
[06:00] <HiddenWolf> It's overflowing with concerned users who can't update their warty's
[06:00] <HiddenWolf> Which was to be expected, seeing that ubuntu.com is down for maintenance
[06:33] <tseng> HiddenWolf: how many people read the topic? heh.
[06:35] <dholbach> tseng, you said, what i thought :-)
[06:36] <HiddenWolf> tseng: read the topic is shorter than explaining the entire thing. :-P
[07:48] <herzi> amu: ping
[08:01] <[m0rph] > hi, the new version of kdelibs in hoary overwrites the gnome /etc/xdg/menus/applications.menu
[08:02] <dholbach> [m0rph] , the problem is known
[08:03] <[m0rph] > dholbach: oh, good
[08:06] <dholbach> and a solution worked on
[08:35] <tseng> anyone have a gphoto2 camera handy?
[08:36] <ari> yes
[08:36] <ari> wait, define "gphoto2 camera"
[08:36] <tseng> a camera that allows you to properly import photos using gphoto2
[08:36] <ari> ok
[08:36] <tseng> care do to a bit of testing for me?
[08:36] <ari> or rather, a camera supported in gphoto2
[08:36] <ari> sure, do i have to be running ubuntu? :)
[08:37] <tseng> yep, hoary even
[08:37] <ari> i suppose i could set up a chroot
[08:37] <tseng> hm that would take awhile, this is an X app
[08:38] <ari> probably not that long
[08:38] <ari> but i guess i should be doing homework instead
[08:38] <tseng> heh, that comes first certainly
[08:39] <tseng> if someone has hoary and a camera and wants to test gphoto2 import with f-spot.. ping me
[08:39] <ari> oh, it's just in f-spot 0.0.8?
[08:39] <tseng> yep.
[08:40] <tseng> someone mailed me a bug report saying it does:
[08:40] <tseng> Unhandled Exception: System.DllNotFoundException: libgphoto2.so
[08:40] <tseng> in <0x00053> (wrapper managed-to-native)
[08:40] <tseng> which I'm guessing is because libgphoto2-2 provides /usr/lib/libgphoto2.so.2
[08:42] <zul> hola
[08:44] <dholbach> hi zul
[08:44] <zul> hey dholbach 
[08:45] <ari> tseng: there are a ton of DllImport("libgphoto2.so")s all over libgphoto2-sharp
[08:45] <ari> so yes, it's going to fail if libgphoto2-dev isn't installed
[08:46] <tseng> ari: yep.
[08:46] <tseng> but the bit in -dev is just a symlink
[08:46] <ari> right
[08:47] <tseng> interesting dilema, which package do I fix :P
[08:47] <ari> f-stop?
[08:48] <ari> er, f-spot
[08:50] <tseng> perhaps. I'm wondering how other apps find the right lib if we dont provide a symlink along with the runtime
[08:50] <tseng> know any other libgphoto2 apps?
[08:52] <ari> there are no other C# apps that use gphoto2
[08:52] <ajmitch> tseng: does mono not do some .so mapping?
[08:52] <tseng> doesnt have to be C# specifically
[08:52] <ari> regular C apps just link with the library
[08:52] <ari> and they use the system linker, so they're found correctly
[08:53] <tseng> of course they do, heh.
[08:53] <ari> but you want to use .so.2, no .so
[08:53] <ari> not
[08:53] <tseng> ajmitch: there are foo.config.exe
[08:54] <ajmitch>  /etc/mono/config appears to have some mappings there
[08:55] <tseng> yes, you can make those per .exe as well
[08:55] <tseng> but im not sure you can for a dll
[08:55] <ajmitch> anyway, I've got an exam in a few min, will bbl
[08:55] <tseng> we can certainly patch the source to hardcode .so.2
[08:56] <tseng> just.. there must be a more portable way I'd imagine.
[08:56] <ajmitch> that's nasty
[08:56] <tseng> ill talk to larry about it later.
[09:05] <tseng> thanks for helping out also, ari 
[09:12] <marco_g> hi
[09:16] <pitti> Hai ogra
[09:16] <ogra> hi pitti
[09:16] <HiddenWolf> ogra! :)
[09:21] <Riddell> dholbach: who is working on a solution to the applications.menu issue?
[09:21] <dholbach> Riddell, talked to amu about it some hours ago
[09:22] <Riddell> dholbach: what did he say?
[09:23] <dholbach> Riddell, nothing specific... 
[09:24] <Riddell> ok
[09:52] <tseng> ajmitch: ahh, you can have a .dll.config
[09:52] <tseng> ajmitch: issue solved.
[09:57] <tseng> seb128: I've just fixed a bug in my f-spot package
[09:59] <seb128> k
[10:00] <tseng> its ubuntu3 if you would be so kind as to look at it at some point
[10:00] <tseng> what was the outcome of your talk with the maintainer?
[10:37] <dholbach> i'm out running... bbl
[11:22] <Kamion> daniels: yo
[11:38] <zul> hey Kamion  how is it going?
[11:44] <Kamion> not bad, just back from visiting in-laws
[11:44] <Kamion> ... and back to find a PuTTY security advisory. Er, yay.
[11:44] <zul> putty for windows?
[11:45] <Kamion> putty runs on Unix too
[11:45] <zul> bleah...
[11:54] <deki_> hallo
[11:55] <deki_> i recompiled the kernel to test if the window rebuild gets quicker
[11:55] <deki_> i think i have found the reason why mandrake's grafikal interface is much quicker then that of ubuntu
[11:55] <deki_> their's libqt is linked against libgl 
[11:57] <crimsun> implying that if the user has a hardware-accelerated GL set, then it's faster? I'm not sure how that would make Mandrake's "grafikal interface" faster on my S3 Virge, for instance
[11:57] <deki_> hmm
[11:57] <deki_> i don't know why but i say you the result: the windows rebuild is very very slow on ubuntu hoary comapred to mandrake 10.0
[11:57] <deki_> on same system
[11:58] <deki_> i have nvidia geforce 4mx
[11:58] <deki_> the mandrake has some older xfree version
[11:58] <deki_> something like 4.3.xxx
[11:58] <deki_> how can you explain it?
[11:59] <deki_> when i have one window like mozilla firefox
[11:59] <deki_> then i take xchat
[11:59] <deki_> and move it on top of mozilla
[11:59] <deki_> then i see a very big traces
[11:59] <deki_> moving traces
[11:59] <deki_> the system does not do anything
[11:59] <deki_> the cpu is idling
[12:00] <deki_> i get same effekt only when mandrake is loaded with compiing of something
[12:00] <deki_> so what could be the cause of it?
[12:00] <Kamion> this sounds like it ought to be in a bug report or something, not flooded into IRC
[12:00] <deki_> hmm thx