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Xappeshadeofgrey, if you do the  'nautilus <folder path>' it should be of application type, not link, I suppose12:01
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awtcmcis a /boot partition required if i plan on using gnoppix for system rescue?12:02
chaosmindsys2: heh, ubuntu and MacOS X folks alike have had to deal with "No Root User" panic syndrome!12:02
Phr0stByteNevermind ppl - fixed it12:02
chaosmind=)12:02
elTigrehmpf12:02
chaosmindsudo is not such an evil system...12:02
sys2chaosmind, but its not that hard to add a box in the end of the installation noticing a thing like that ... thats quite huge on a unix system :/12:02
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elTigreor can I force my linux system to mount the smart card manually?12:03
sys2im sure its not but the fact that i do not know what my root password is, or that i have to use sudo freaked me out like hell12:03
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chaosmindyeah, i wish the installer had a smarter "HOWTO" dialogue...12:03
ompaulaeonphive, what I did eariler today (not on that box now) when presented with two chips was went into the alsa mixer and muted both master volume settings one of them made noise so I was able to point at that12:03
titohi12:03
chaosmindbut then i also wish ubuntu had a default-install up-to-date webmin systyem!  ;-)12:04
titoit's possible to run dreamwvr in ubuntu?12:04
chaosmindnot dreamweaver, but good luck getting NVU installed!12:04
chaosmind(great workalike, bastard to install in ubuntu!)12:04
chaosmindyou'll need wine or codeweavers to run dreamweaver in linux...12:05
chaosmind=(12:05
shadeofgreyXappe:  Thanks!  That worked!12:05
ompaulchaosmind, you could write such a webmin system :-)12:05
shadeofgreyi fixed it!  hallelujah12:06
chaosmindheh, wish i were sucha programmer!12:06
ompaulshadeofgrey, you pray not play?12:06
shadeofgreydoes nybody know if there is a version of mirc for linux?12:06
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membreyashadeofgrey: x-chat? :P12:06
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titoand with wine?12:06
shadeofgreybecause i really love mirc and more importantly the kickass script i use for it called peace & protection 4.2212:07
titoi have a problem with an memory stick, can help me please?12:07
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chaosmindwhat filesystem on that memory stick, tito?12:08
membreyadoes anyone know why only one folder on my fat32 drive is locked?12:08
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titothe filesystem is Ntfs12:08
kentshadeofgrey, xchat can use scripts aswell. Just rewrite your script for the scriptlanguage xchat uses.12:08
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titoi changed /etc/fstab12:08
shadeofgreykent:  peace and protection is almost 200,000 lines of code!12:09
kentshadeofgrey, what does the script do?12:09
ompaulshadeofgrey, so start with the bits you use :-)12:09
chaosmindi have a similar problem, i know the solution has to do with editing the /etc/fstab file...12:09
shadeofgreykent:  Its an all purpose kind of script12:10
chaosmindor so i'm guessing..?  ;-(12:10
shadeofgreyokay guys i need to know something new...  whats the best graphical ftp application for ubuntu?12:10
kentshadeofgrey, i use gftp.12:10
chaosmindmounting filesystems is the #1 issue Hoary needs to solve!12:10
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shadeofgreychaosmind:  hoary is the easiest filemounting system ive ever used -- im a complete linux retard and i managed to mount my ntfs partition (with the help from the great people here)12:11
jinx_woha - mplayer is not in the package tree?!12:11
membreyashadeofgrey: gftp12:11
shadeofgreyokay.  can i use apt-get to install it?12:12
spadesapt-get install gftp12:12
titochaosmind http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions/view?searchterm=ntfs12:12
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jinx_erm - how can I install (g)mplayer?12:13
shadeofgreymembry:  probably because you havent given the user permission?12:13
spadesjinx_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=9850&highlight=mplayer  might need to update the urls for latest codecs and stuff12:14
jinx_spades: thanks a bunch12:14
titohow can i read a memory stick in ntfs? i changed /etc/stab an i have problems12:14
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cyklus for a xeon processor do I use i386 or ia64 installation cd's?12:17
jinx_i very much doubt you have a 64-bit xeon chip just yet12:17
AndyRxeon are x8612:17
joh_are the fast boot and boot splashscreen integrated in array4 ?12:17
AndyRso 38612:17
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AndyRwith 686 kernel12:18
elTigreI begin to feel at home in ubuntu ^ ^12:21
Xappeshadeofgrey, :)12:21
thenukeCan I remove alsa and install OSS instead?12:22
titoi try monunt /dev/sda1 /usb12:22
titomount12:23
titoand i have problems12:23
elTigretito: do you want to mount an usb device automatically?12:24
titoif i try fdisk -l the device sda112:24
elTigretry invoking gnome-volume-manager, an then plug in device12:24
titois maked with *12:24
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titoelTigre who i do this?12:26
titognome-volume-manager?12:26
tito(gnome-volume-manager:4408): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:12:27
titoAuthentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.12:27
tito** (gnome-volume-manager:4408): WARNING **: manager.c/1202: already running?12:27
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titoyou must specify filesystemfile12:28
titoin mount /dev/sda1 /usb12:29
titothe filesystem is ntfs12:29
titobut...12:29
titoi don't know12:29
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K-otiKis there anyway to get the cpu usage onto your desktop?12:31
K-otiKlike in gentoo?12:31
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HillTopK-otiK, in a consol, type the command: top12:32
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elTigretito: if gnome-volume-manager is already runnig it should work :-/12:33
cavediverHi. I'm looking fr program to rip and encode a dvd and a movie-editor ? Any tips12:33
cavediverNot mencoder. I'm looking for something graphical in nature.12:33
Ixandvdrip12:33
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Ixankino is a workable movie editor12:34
cavediverdoes dvdrip encode also?12:34
titowhi can't i read stick?12:34
Ixanyes12:34
chutwighas anyone else seen any issues with the system locking up randomly when mounting or unmounting devices?12:34
chutwigi keep getting the feeling that hotplug or the hal isn't getting along well with this computer12:34
cavediverIxan: Tried that one, and it won't open any of my files. Seems only handle dv formats.12:34
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Xappecan one trust an app called HAL after 2001: a space odyssey?12:35
Ixancavediver: I don't think there is any movie editors who work well with xvid or similar12:35
Ixanperhaps some gstreamer-based apps12:35
chutwighardware destruction layer12:35
thenukeI just think that ubuntu has a bit bad support for older soundcards atleast :I12:35
cavediverHm, can't install dvdrip, stranfe12:35
cavediverstrange12:35
thenukesomething messes something up12:35
chutwigthe last time it froze i was watching a video with totem-xine and i told it to unmount my USB memory key12:36
Ixancavediver: source og apt?12:36
chutwigfroze instantly, stopped responding to keyboard input, couldn't ssh in12:36
chutwigcould ping the computer, but that's not really much help12:36
cavediverget some kind of error. Using apt.-12:36
Ixanperhaps source is a better alternative12:36
cavediverdvdrip: Depends: transcode (>= 2:0.6.14) but it is not installable12:36
cavediverE: Broken packages12:36
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biomichey all .. just about to begin the download of the ubuntu iso, jsut wanting to ask a few questions .. firstly, im running an ibook g4 here (1ghz) will that be sufficient to run? .. also i was hoping to be able to dual boot alongside macosx until i completely understand my way around linux, now ive read this is possible but apparently the partitioning is difficult from what ive been reading .. is this so? .. if it is, are there any open sou12:37
biomicrce ;) programs i can grab to make that any easier ? ... ive used fedora and redhat before on my x86 box which is now trashed and jsut really wanting to get back into linux :D .. thanks all12:37
cavediverSorry, I want compiled stuff. I'm to lazy :)12:37
elTigretito: sorry I can't dcc12:37
chutwigbiomic: why would you want to install linux on an ibook, though?12:37
chutwigyour airport extreme won't work for sure12:37
Ixanchutwig: that was helpful...12:37
Ixanbiomic: have you allready partitioned space for your linux installation?12:38
chutwigIxan: the whole point of buying a mac is to run OS X, there's a world of cheap PC hardware out there to run linux on12:38
Ixanchutwig: ibooks are cute, os x is not12:38
titook eltigre gnome is running12:38
biomicwell im getting sick of macosx to be honest but need the gui while im doing assignments at the moment .. i nbought the book because it was fairly cheap $1500 aussie12:38
ompaulanyone get hoary live to work on a sony viao?12:38
chutwigIxan: that's just your opinion, sorry12:38
IxanI don't want my freakin' icons jumping12:38
Ixan;)12:38
Xappehaha12:39
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Ixanchutwig: I presume your whole reasoning about buying mac for os x is too? :)12:39
biomici like the aesthetics of the ibook to be honest12:39
IxanI agree12:39
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chutwigwhatever12:40
Ixanbut have you partitioned space for the installation?12:40
Xappehmm, i've borrowed a ibook g3 from my dad ,that I never use...12:40
biomicna unfortunately :\ .. was wondering how to go about all that aswell12:40
Lethorionhi, is there any good guide to how to use bluetooth keyboard with ubuntu?12:40
jonohas anyone here ever setup a lexmark x125?12:40
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titoelTigre can help me?12:41
Ixanbiomic: hmm.. you need some kind of partitioning tool for os x if you need to resize your partitions12:41
elTigreprobably not12:41
IxanAs far as I know, the ubuntu installer don't support resizing yet12:41
titook :/12:41
biomicaah ok then12:41
cavediverWhy did my dcgui-qt break in hoary? Worked perfect in warty.12:41
cavediverAnyone having the same problem12:41
biomichow many partitions? ... like just the two (macosx linux) or am i going to have to make the swap etc.. in macosx aswell?12:42
jonoi'm having a print pronlem12:42
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ompauljono so do tell12:42
Ixancavediver: haven't dcgui-qt been abandoned for the new name of valknut?12:42
ompauljono ahh lexmark12:42
jonoi set up my lexmark x125 but on linuxprinting.org it says you have to change the device to null or somthingernuther12:43
cavediverwell, the package is called dcgui i think. The package i've installed anyway.12:43
bzbbI have an install problem12:43
cavediverIs there another package-name i can try ?12:43
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Ixanwell, the version in the repository is quite old, I'm not sure if it is maintained12:44
bzbbmy  ISO passes md5sums12:44
Xappecavediver, get the latest valknut from dcgui.berlios.de OR try out linuxdcpp (also known as Wulfor reloaded) from linuxdcpp.berlios.de12:44
bzbbhowever, when  I try to install, I get a crc error, as soon as it finishes unziping the kernel12:45
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jonothis is the printer setup instructions for redhat and the x125:12:45
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jonoFor Queue type, select Locally-connected, click "Custom Device" and specify /dev/null as the device. If you don't specify /dev/null12:45
Ixanwulfor rocks12:45
jonobut i see no option anywhere for dev/null12:45
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Ixanand crashes :)12:45
WillCookeanyone out there using a WinTV NOVA-T DVB card?12:46
XappeIxan, yes, the handling of tabs are not perfect yet :)12:46
Xappe*is12:46
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apokryphos7Hi. How can I found out my local IP Address?12:46
WillCookewww.whatismyip.com12:46
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bebekhello12:46
spadesifconfig should spit out your internal one if behind router12:47
apokryphos7WillCooke: *local* IP.12:47
bebekdoes anyone know any command line sound card detection ?12:47
apokryphos7cool12:47
apokryphos7thanks spades12:47
WillCookeOoops, sorry!12:47
Lethorionis there any kernel image for ubuntu with BT hid ready?12:47
apokryphos7WillCooke: No worries. =)12:47
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WillCooke:))12:48
AndyRnn :)12:48
apokryphos7Could anyone take any time out to possibly help explain the process of port forwarding? It's been hassling me for ages.12:48
spadesdid ya check out portfowarding.com ?12:48
ompauljono did you try cups and foomatic?12:48
bebekanyone can help me?12:49
apokryphos7spades: Yup. Doesn't have my router (has a similar one), but I couldn't find out exactly how to do it. The instructions for the router didn't seem to go through all the steps.12:49
WillCookeapokryphos7, Basically you set up your firewall/router to forward ports that connect to it to ports on a mahcine inside your network.  For example.......12:49
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WillCookeHTTP (web pages) usually connect to the server on port 8012:50
stuNNedhow's everythones experience with hoary and laptops?12:50
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razorback_greetings all    got a question12:50
WillCookeSo, if someone points their browser at your ip address, then the browser connects to port 8012:50
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apokryphos7WillCooke: Right. So where do I forward ports like that for, say, torrents? The aforementioned site told me to go to this screen file:/home/francis/portforwarding.jpg on my router.12:50
spadesWillCooke: if yoi have something listening on port 80 yes, if not, they get a non address12:51
bebekhmmm12:51
WillCookethen if you wanted to serve web pages from a computer on your network you would set you router to port forward 80 to port 80 on the machine inside your network running apache12:51
razorback_how do i add an exsiting HD that the raid didnt pick up when i installed12:51
bebekno one knows any command line sound card detection?12:51
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bebeki remember there is one... long time ago.. in ubuntu, but i can't remember it now12:51
apokryphos7WillCooke: Interesting. But on those details above, where do I find the info for those details?12:51
WillCookeapokryphos7, your BT client should tell you what ports it's listening on for TCP and UDP perhaps.  What client are you using?12:52
cyklusI am in the Exim 4 configuration and I want to only be able to send outgoing email when im locally logged in.. what option should i choose or do i need to manually configure this?12:52
apokryphos7WillCooke: I have no idea. :(12:52
apokryphos7WillCooke: Apologies for my ignorance here, but BT Client?12:53
WillCookehttp://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GNOMEBittorrentGUI12:54
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WillCookeapokryphos7, Sorry Bit Torrent, to download your torrents.12:54
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apokryphos7WillCooke: Ahh, sorry. Yeah; using Azureus out the moment. Port it listens to is 6881, it says.12:55
spadesapokryphos7: run the configuration wizard, it checks the port to see if its open/fowarded12:55
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WillCookeapokryphos7, OK. Do you have a ADSL router or something between you and the internet12:55
razorback_anyone know the command to add a hd to raid12:55
bebekwhy does alsamixer reports alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device12:55
bebekthis is buggering me12:56
apokryphos7WillCooke: Yup, got errors when originally running it. Could try again...12:56
apokryphos7WillCooke: Yup, ADSL router.12:56
bebeksound card doesn't work.... :(12:56
stuNNeddoes anyone uses hoary on laptops?12:56
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jazzkahi!12:56
WillCookeapokryphos7, OK, point your browser at the IP address (internally) for your router.  With a bit of luck it'll have a nice gui12:56
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hibbinsubuntu12:57
jazzkaHow can I set firefox (or whatever) to be the default browser?12:57
fscstuNNed, I do12:57
WillCookeYou should find a settings called Port Forwarding, or perhaps called "Virtual Server"12:57
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stuNNedfsc: how goes it w/pm?12:57
apokryphos7WillCooke: Yeah, doing the COnfiguration I get: "Testing Port 6881.... NAT Error"12:57
fscstuNNed, i don't12:57
spadesbebek: check in /proc/asound for sounds card info12:57
stuNNedfsc: you don't do power management?12:57
fscstuNNed, nope12:58
stuNNedok :(12:58
WillCookeapokryphos7, OK, you perhaps need to open that port on your firewall as well12:58
apokryphos7WillCooke: Yup, I get a GUI type thing. Screeny: http://www.youmortals.com/stuff/screeny.jpg12:58
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apokryphos7I take it I have to go to the Virtual Server settings?12:58
WillCookeapokryphos7, Well, what do you know.  Same router as me!!!12:58
Nikkihey ppl12:58
apokryphos7WillCooke: NO way :D12:59
Nikkihavent used IRC for a looong while12:59
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ompaulNikki, so is that re then ? ;)12:59
Nikkire?12:59
WillCookeapokryphos7, Yup, Virtual server, then type that port number in to the first 3 boxes12:59
ompaulNikki,  as in wb12:59
WillCookeapokryphos7, Box1 should have a "1" in it already01:00
ne0geniusanyone have experiences with HFS+ working on Ubuntu?01:00
Nikkioh riight, first time in this channel, just irc in general i meant01:00
aeonphiveanyone hae any idea how to get sound ice1724 [Envy24]  chip (driver:snd-ice1724) to work with Ubuntu?01:00
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Nikkijust used linux once or twice and after installation never used it, strange isnt it01:00
WillCookebrb01:00
apokryphos7WillCooke: Yup, it does.01:00
Nikkiredhat and mandrake that is01:00
apokryphos7WillCooke: So 6881 into all three01:00
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WillCookeapokryphos7, ok stick your port number in the first 3 boxes, select tcp and then put your local ip address in the last one.01:01
ompaulNikki, welcome to a different distro01:01
Nikkioh by the way do you lot know how close we were to extinction the other day! :P01:01
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Nikkiheadlines, Brightest Galactic Flash Ever Detected Hits Earth01:02
Nikkithanks pual01:02
Nikkipaul *01:02
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ompaulNikki, np flash?01:02
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WillCookeapokryphos7, Then click add, then you need to click "save settings" on the left hand frame.  You'll need to reboot. Bye bye for now!................. (watches for disconnect ---> )01:02
apokryphos7WillCooke: Darn it. Little confused with ifconfig. Which one is my local IP?01:02
WillCookepost a screeny01:03
apokryphos7hehe01:03
WillCookeapokryphos7, it probably starts 192.168.0.01:03
WillCookeapokryphos7 or 10.0.0.01:03
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Nikkiit was just a bright flash that happened lots of light years away01:03
kaktus67Servas01:03
Nikkiif it was closer apparantly there would of been mass extinction01:03
Nikkiah networking stuff, i'm good at networking :D01:04
WillCookeapokryphos7, it'll be the one associated with eth0 I expect01:04
apokryphos7WillCooke: Yup, I've got a 10.0.11: www.youmortals.com/stuff/screeny2.jpg01:04
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hibbinsubuntu01:04
kaktus67buntu01:04
WillCookewww.youmortals.com/stuff/screeny2.jpg, yup that's the one 10.0.0.1101:04
hibbinswhen can i install it01:04
hibbinsi can hardly wait01:04
apokryphos7Cool01:04
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bebekanyone knows where i can get alsaconf from?01:04
kaktus67exit01:04
Ainvarso anyone having any experience with a Dell Inspiron 8600 laptop with Ubuntu?01:05
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hibbinsanyone who tried ubuntu and did not like it?01:05
AinvarI am looking at purchasing one01:05
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Nikkipurchasing one?, that sounds strange01:05
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ompaulhibbins, I guess those ones would not be here :)01:05
Ainvarhmmm no even a buddy of mine who hates linux with a passion thinks it is pretty slick01:05
bebekwhen i did apt-get install alsaconf, it says that alsaconf is provided by alsa-utils.. so i did apt-get install alsa-utils.. but it says that alsa-utils is already installed.  Running alsaconf still says that the command is not found.. what could be happening here????01:05
WillCookeapokryphos7, Are you using DHCP to get an IP address?  That is, you haven't explicitly set an IP address on your machine.  If this is the case, we should probably switch you over to a static IP address (very easy!)01:05
thr1ceok...I know that ubuntu is pretty much Gnome; do any other WM/DE 's come by default?01:05
thr1cebebek, root01:06
bebekthr1ce: no luck.. still says command not found01:06
Nikkihow did you guys get started in linux, when i install it I end up just sitting looking at the desktop, its like "ok now what"01:06
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Nikkiplus it seems like a lot of commands to rememver, lol01:07
bebekwell... apt-get install alsaconf actually says: Package alsaconf is a virtual package provided by:01:07
bebek  alsa-utils 1.0.8-1ubuntu101:07
bebekYou should explicitly select one to install.01:07
apokryphos7WillCooke: It worked! "Testing port 6881.... OK!" =)01:07
ompaulNone of the known magnetars nearer than about 4,500 light years from us.01:07
WillCooke apokryphos7, Are you using DHCP to get an IP address?  That is, you haven't explicitly set an IP address on your machine.  If this is the case, we should probably switch you over to a static IP address (very easy!)01:07
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WillCooke apokryphos7, Hehehe!  That was easy, eh?!01:07
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LinuxJonesbebek, alsaconf was left out by the developers on purpose01:07
bebek:(01:07
ne0geniusanyon got a guide for HFS+ support in ubuntu01:07
ompaulNikki, well you really need a job for a computer no matter what operating system to make good use of it01:08
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bebekmy sound card wont work in ubuntu then :(01:08
apokryphos7WillCooke: Hmm, re: DHCP, I think so. On Ubuntu start up originally I think I did that.01:08
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LinuxJonesbebek, what card is it ?01:08
apokryphos7WillCooke: Sure was easy thanks to you. I really really appreciate man, thanks. =)01:08
bebekyamaha opl3sa201:08
bebekwhen i did modprobe opl3sa2  it doesn01:08
bebekit doesn't complain at all01:08
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WillCooke apokryphos7,  OK, for the sake of completeness, I'll explain why we need to change this...01:08
bebekso i guess it's opl3sa2 (isa card i guess)01:09
Nikkiyeah I know, just feels strange01:09
apokryphos7WillCooke: Cool. =)01:09
Nikkisome apps i use a lot dont work, like this trainign program and some router emulators, i need em01:09
LinuxJonesbebek, lsmod | grep opl3sa2 does it have any modules listed ?01:10
WillCooke apokryphos7,  Every time you boot your machine it broadcasts on your local network to see if there is a DHCP (Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol) sever that can supply it with an IP addres, a gateway (to the 'net) and lots of other good stuff.01:10
bebekyeah..... opl3sa2, ad1848, mpu401, sound01:10
apokryphos7right01:10
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satu_rnoqualche italiano in chat?01:10
WillCooke apokryphos7,   Your router is running this server and it sends a message back containg all the IP info.  Linux uses this info, configures the network, and your off.01:10
satu_rnohi!!!!01:11
WillCooke apokryphos7,  Now.... if one day there was another machine on your network which asked for an IP address, your server would probably take the first one on it's list and give it to the first computer that asks for it.01:11
apokryphos7sure01:12
LinuxJonesbebek, those are oss modules, if they are loaded alsa will not work. You should be able to use those using oss, do gstreamer-properties and select oss then test.01:12
bebekLinuxJones: but then when i run "alsamixer" it still says: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device01:12
WillCooke apokryphos7,  Then you switch on your computer and get the next IP address, 10.1.1.12.01:12
bebekeh??01:12
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Nikkigtg, cya01:12
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bebeklinuxjones: for the "default sink"  or "default source" ?01:12
LinuxJonesbebek, type gstreamer-properties in console then for output select oss form the dropdown list01:12
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WillCooke apokryphos7,  Now your router is sending all port 6881 data to the other machine, not your machine.  So BT stops working01:13
satu_rnocan anyone help me to configure umts mobile phone connection?01:13
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WillCooke apokryphos7,  So, we'll make your computer always use the same IP address, that way you know the "Virtual Servers" on your router always point to the right computer01:13
satu_rnofor linux ubuntu!01:13
bebeklinuxjones:  there are only "default sink" and "default source", no "output" i guess you are talking about "default sink" ? default sink scurrently points to "ESD - Enlight bal balbal" , and default source points to "OSS"01:13
apokryphos7WillCooke: Oh. Azureus seems to be working very well now, for the record. First time I've had green smiley faces on the torrents.01:13
Wop2Does anyone know how I could change the resolution of he ubuntu login screen?01:14
LinuxJonesbebek, chage it to oss and press test01:14
satu_rnocan anyone help me to configure umts mobile phone connection?01:14
satu_rnofor linux ubuntu!01:14
bebeklinuxjones: oss on default sink is successful, but oss on default source reports: "failed to construct test pipeline for 'oss- open sound system'01:14
WillCooke apokryphos7,  from a command prompt type> sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces01:15
apokryphos7WillCooke: I'm there.01:15
WillCookeapokryphos7, Find the "Primary network interface"01:15
WillCookeapokryphos7, Delete what evers there and stick this in....01:16
apokryphos7Yup. Underneath have "auto eth0"01:16
apokryphos7Ok01:16
WillCookeiface eth0 inet static01:16
LinuxJonesbebek, do lsmod | grep opl3sa2 again then for each module do modprobe -r modulename01:16
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Wop2How could I change the resolution of the ubunutu login screen?01:16
bebeklinuxjones: funny... the default sink only works when i press "test" for the first time.. after that, it will report the same error message ("failed to create pipeline blalbla")01:16
apokryphos7( WillCooke: there's two lines of stuff btw, will delete both..)01:16
WillCookeaddress 10.0.0.5001:16
LinuxJonesbebek, so sound works ?01:16
WillCookenetmask 255.255.255.001:17
LinuxJonesbebek, when you pressed test in oss ?01:17
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WillCookegateway 192.168.0.25401:17
spadesWillCooke: will this work with other routers? so i can stick in my preferred 192.168.1.101 addy in?01:17
XappeWop2, gdm uses the first resolution in the xf86config or xorg.conf01:17
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Wop2How would I edit that?01:18
bebekLinuxJones: pressing test on default sink only works for the first time (i.e. when i pressed it again, it failed.. i have to restart gstreamer-properties program to make it work again)01:18
WillCookesorry, gateway 10.0.0.201:18
apokryphos7ok ;-)01:18
LinuxJonesbebek, once selected just press apply or ok whatever is to accept the values and you should be ok01:18
bebekLinuxJones: now it doesn't work at all, after running that modprobe -r01:18
universalcan someone tell me how to close down X,?01:18
LinuxJonesbebek, omg01:19
WillCookespades, yeah as long as you use the same subnet as your router, and choose an IP address that isn't in the dhcp range01:19
WillCookeapokryphos7, auto eth001:19
LinuxJonesbebek, do modprobe opl3sa201:19
WillCookeapokryphos7, Ok that should do it.01:19
madzzoniAnyone here knowing which archieve i had to add to my warty apt/source.list to get Gnomebaker?01:19
apokryphos7WillCooke: Cool.01:19
XappeWop2, sudo gedit /etc/X11/<configfile>01:19
WillCookeapokryphos7, Save the file with a different name!!!!!!!!01:19
universalcan someone tell me how to close down X,?01:19
bebekyeah,, i did that, it works again, but only for the first time... and default source still report that error message01:19
apokryphos7WillCooke: Made a backup ;)01:20
WillCookeapokryphos7, :D01:20
LinuxJonesmadzzoni, i will get you the .deb file to download, it's not available in the ubuntu repos yet01:20
apokryphos7WillCooke: Should I do a full reboot? Router reboot?01:20
WillCookeapokryphos7, OK, if this all goes tits-up, you know what to do!01:20
apokryphos7yup01:20
WillCookeapokryphos7, First you need to change the virtual server settings to point to your new IP address01:20
universalLinuxJones, do u know how to close down the X?01:20
madzzoniI got it allready, but dont know how to use DPKG01:21
apokryphos7WillCooke: Ok. So make them point to 10.0.0.2?01:21
bebekhey linuxjones!!! it works!!!!01:21
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bebekbut then the volume is too low01:21
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LinuxJonesuniversal, yeah /etc/init.d/gdm stop01:21
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apokryphos7( WillCooke: I actually think there might be another comp with that local ip on the network...)01:21
universalok, thx01:21
Xappemadzzoni, dpkg -i <package name>01:21
bebekhow can i raise the volume ??? (gnome volume applet is not there)01:21
marccdtechnically, could I update from debian to ubuntu, just by changing my apt sources and doing apt-get dist-upgrade?01:21
madzzoniLinuxjones:thanks01:21
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WillCookeapokryphos7, 10.0.0.2 is your router, you need to use the same address as you put in the file01:22
LinuxJonesbebek, great it's not alsa but as long as you have some sound working until you can figure out alsa :)01:22
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WillCookeapokryphos7, 10.0.0.5001:22
puterfixergreetings, ladies and gentlemen. I'm a linux noob and need some help here and there with tweaking Ubuntu :)01:22
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apokryphos7WillCooke: Sorry?01:22
bebekLinuxJones: what about the volume? any idea on how to raise up the volume?01:22
LinuxJonesmadzzoni, it's a warty binary but works in Hoary as well >> http://people.debian.org/~goedson/packages/ubuntu/warty/gnomebaker/releases/i386/01:22
WillCookeapokryphos7, In the "interfaces" file you added a line "address 10.0.0.50"01:22
apokryphos7WillCooke: Yup.01:23
WillCookeapokryphos7, and a line "gateway 10.0.0.2"01:23
LinuxJonesbebek, right click and add a gnome volume control applet to the panel01:23
bebekwell.. it says "no mixer"01:23
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apokryphos7WillCooke: Ah. Ok. So now on the Virtual Settings I put in... .50, right?01:23
WillCookeapokryphos7, Gateway is your router, address is the new address for your machine (at least it will be in a second)01:23
WillCookeapokryphos7, Spot on01:23
apokryphos7Cool. That clears things up.01:24
bebek'no volume control elements and/or devices found"01:24
puterfixerI managed to automount my NTFS partitions (one primary, four logical) as /media/c , /media/d and so on. I don't understand 1) why only c appears in Computer and on "desktop", and 2) how can I make the other partitions appear there as well? they are all mounted correctly.01:24
WillCookeapokryphos7, once you've applied that, you'll need to reboot your router again01:24
marccdanybody, could I update from debian by changing my sources?01:24
apokryphos7WillCooke: Alrighty. Will brb.01:25
WillCookemarcdd, It would be more trouble than it's worth! ;)01:25
LinuxJonesbebek, try right click the volume applet and then perferences select the oss control01:25
bebekLinuxJones: the problem is...... even the applet won't start up. it's not there01:26
LinuxJonesbebek, mmm01:26
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LinuxJonesbebek, try re-starting gnome01:27
bebekok...01:27
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apokryphos77WillCooke: Cool. Seems fine so far.01:27
WillCookeapokryphos7, Glad you made it back!  I was starting to think that we might need to forward your IRC ports as well, but that seems to be working!01:28
WillCookeapokryphos7, Right.  Where are we?...... OK, yes, erm...01:28
WillCookeapokryphos7, OK, so now we need to get your machine running on it's new static IP address01:29
apokryphos77WillCooke: Heh, cool. Yup.01:29
apokryphos77Also need to find a way to tell dear freenode that I'm the real apokryphos ;-)01:29
WillCookeapokryphos7, you'll loose your network again here for a few seconds I expect...01:29
WillCookeapokryphos7, from the command line:01:29
WillCookeifdown eth001:29
WillCookeifup eth001:29
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apokryphos77WillCooke: Oh, by the way, I'm getting a "Nat Error" on the Azureus configuration now.01:30
WillCookeapokryphos7, yeah, that's normal01:30
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apokryphos77ok cool01:30
bebekLinuxJones: no luck.....01:30
apokryphos77WillCooke: Will part normally. brb01:30
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WillCookehope this works.01:31
Juice-I am trying to add fluxbox to my ubuntu. but when i try to run /configure i get an error like this: configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH01:31
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Juice-Will i have to add a C Compiler ?01:31
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puterfixeranyone can answer my questions above, please?01:31
LinuxJones_AFKbebek, can I help you with it tomorrow I am busy atm ?01:32
hypatiaJuice-: first, is there any particular reason you're compiling rather than installing from universe01:32
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bebekLinuxJones: ok.. thx01:32
hypatiaJuice-: and second, yes, there's no installer installed by default, but you can install one by installing build-essential via synaptic or whatever01:32
LinuxJones_AFK:)01:32
Juice-hypatia, ok.. so fluxbox is in the synaptic manager?01:32
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apokryphos77WillCooke: Hmm, I'm getting a "Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0"01:33
trilluser.01:33
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hypatiaJuice-: it is as long as you have the 'universe' repository enabled.01:33
WillCookeapokryphos7, Hmmm.  Post a screeny of your /etc/network/interfaces01:34
hypatiaJuice-: if you don't find fluxbox, have a look at these directions: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/UniversePackages01:34
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LinuxJones_AFKputerfixer, ask your question in a few minutes someone with a ntfs partition will help you :)01:35
apokryphos77WillCooke: http://pastebin.com/24390201:35
puterfixerI already have, LinuxJones :) don't want to annoy by repeating it.01:36
WillCookeOK, put this under #primary....01:36
WillCookeiface eth0 inet static01:36
apokryphos77k01:36
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LinuxJones_AFKputerfixer, check the wiki page and www.ubuntuguide.org01:36
apokryphos77WillCooke: Shall I delete the other lines?01:36
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WillCookeapokryphos77, nope, leave them there, just put it above the "address" line and below the "#primary...."line01:37
apokryphos77Sure01:37
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WillCookeapokryphos77, then do the  "ifdown eth0".........."ifup eth0" thingy again01:39
apokryphos77sure01:39
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puterfixerLinuxJones, I have already checked ubuntuguide -- that's how I managed to mount all partitions.01:39
kentthe page www.ubuntuguide.org has some tips that tells user to add entrys to the menu using ://applications, etc,  which will not work for Hoary. A noble thing would be to change those tips to better once as soon as possible. Its not wise to learn new users to do stuff in a way we know wont work for the next release.01:40
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apokryphos77WillCooke: done01:40
Juice-after installing fluxbox, do i need to manually set it as the wm to be used?01:40
ferrishow do i change the read write permissions on my usb drive from command line (I am using the live cd)01:41
WillCookeapokryphos77, Good stuff. OK, BT should be working again, and you should have a static IP address.  Meaning it'll work no matter how many people use your network01:41
apokryphos77Testing Port... OK ;-)01:41
kentJuice-, if you only want fluxbox and dont want gnome at all, then just choose it from the GDM (login window) in the session settings.01:41
apokryphos77sweet stuff01:41
WillCookeapokryphos77, unless someone steals IP 50!01:41
apokryphos77In which case I'll hunt them down and kill them01:41
Juice-kent: ok thanks :)01:41
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apokryphos77:P01:41
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WillCookeapokryphos77, Right.  Now you can apply for "Network Administrator" jobs, 'cos you've just covered most of the job in 10 mins! :D01:42
apokryphos77Hehehe. I can't thank you enough. I really appreciate this.01:42
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apokryphos77WillCooke: Not a bad router though, is it? I've found it to be pretty reliable.01:43
WillCookeapokryphos77, Well, next time someone comes on IRC and asks about Bit Torrent you'll be able to help them!  That's the joy of linux, and especially Ubuntu!01:43
ferrishow do i change the read write permissions on my usb drive from command line (I am using the live cd)01:44
WillCookeapokryphos77, Yeah, the router is very very good.  It's got a really good firewall on, but it's a P.I.T.A. to set up.01:44
apokryphos77WillCooke: Precisely. I made notes just in case the opportunity rises ;-)01:44
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pussfellerwhats the command to show all users in irssi01:45
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WillCookeapokryphos77, If I get stuck with something I usually search IRC logs, so the conversation we've just had might help someone out.  So we've both done our duty!01:45
apokryphos77WillCooke: Yup. That's what I love about Linux, like you said: the very word is almost synonymous with "community".01:45
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WillCookeapokryphos77, Right - I'm going to try and install a new kernel.  I've been trying to get it to work all day, and it's just finished compiling for the 8th time.  So, if it works, I'll be back, if it doesn't I'm going to have a beer and watch the telly, and try again tomorrow.01:46
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chillywi1lydoes polypaudio replace esound?01:47
apokryphos77WillCooke: Good luck! Hope it pans out. Thanks again for the help.01:47
WillCookeapokryphos77, No worries.01:47
apokryphos77=)01:47
chillywi1lylooks like it01:47
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ferrishow do i change the read write permissions on my usb drive from command line (I am using the live cd)?01:48
chillywi1lyshould I let dist-upgrade rip esound out and install polypaudio?01:48
apokryphos77ferris: chmod01:48
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ferrisi still cannot write to the disk01:54
ferrisit says that I am not the owner01:54
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apokryphos77ferris: Hmm. You've definitely made it writable?01:56
ferrisno....01:56
target-Xhello01:56
ferrisi do not think i have done anything to it now01:56
target-Xvery stupid questio01:56
larsson_I have a sound problem. I have installed Ubuntu on an old computer. It got a old Soundblaster 16 (i think) ISA soundcard, and there is no sound. if i type alsamixer, it gives me: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory , any ideas?01:56
target-Xwhen I connect my mobile phone via bluetooth where is the mount point?01:57
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ferrishow can i get to root when running the livecd?01:57
pussfellerlarsson_: do you see it in lsmod01:57
larsson_I'll check, wait.01:57
pussfelleri had to manually load the module for my isa card01:58
larsson_What am i looking for? :)01:58
pussfellerwhatever looks like the alsa module for the soundblaster01:58
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apokryphos77ferris: Hmm, sorry, I have no idea. Perhaps there's something on ubuntlinux, I'll check.01:58
Snipper__hey i have a GDM question, anyone willing to help?01:59
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larsson_No, cant find anything.01:59
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pussfelleryou can always cd to /lib/modules/$KERNEL and look around too01:59
GIMP666what program could I use to make .avis into a SVCD or miniDVD01:59
pussfellerits in 'sound' in that dir somewhere02:00
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larsson_ill check again02:00
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pussfelleror google to find out the name of the module related to your card and modprobe it02:01
pussfellersorry cant help more, but thats the piece of info I think you need02:01
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larsson_No, it says nothing about sound pussfeller.02:01
GIMP666what program could I use to make .avis into a SVCD or miniDVD?02:02
apokryphosferris: Don't seem to be having any luck. :(02:02
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jonoi just installed KDE, how do i change it to my deefault windows manager?02:03
GIMP666what program could I use to make .avis into a SVCD or miniDVD?02:03
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PhusionGIMP666: you need to convert them to MPeg 2.. to svcd mp2, check doom9.org02:03
GIMP666so its not like windows, where I can just use avis02:04
kentjono, on the login-screen, you can choose a session. Choose KDE and make it default.02:04
Phusionyou should be able to play avis with proper playback stuff02:04
Phusiontry gstreamer02:04
jonok thanks02:04
Phusionin package manager, do a search02:04
GIMP666im trying to make avis into svdd02:05
GIMP666svcd*02:05
Phusionyeah02:05
Phusionso you can burn 'em or what?02:05
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Phusionyou can't ever just use avis for svcd, you need to convert them, whatever you're using in windows may do that02:05
GIMP666i can burn svcd, but what linux prog can I use02:05
GIMP666in windows I can use avi02:05
ReveXAre there any packages I could setup that contain a collection of tools/libs/etc that are needed for most common builds02:05
ReveXlike GLib02:05
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aeonphivedoes Ubuntu have 2.6.9/2.6.10 kernels for Warty?02:08
Riddellaeonphive: no, warty does not get updates (except security)02:09
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subterrificyou can always take the hoary kernel and install it though02:09
subterrificif you think you know what you're doing02:10
subterrifici did02:10
LinuxJones_AFKaeonphive, yeah 2.6.10-302:10
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DenisbrHello People02:11
ferrisapokryphos, I was able to change the permissions through chmod 777 /mnt/sda102:11
ferristhanks02:12
apokryphosferris: cool :)02:12
aeonphiveLinuxJones_AFK: thanks02:12
evarlast/last02:14
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moucheDoes anyone know of any good wiki or wiki-like apps that will work with gnome or iceWM and that don't require a server?02:17
mouche(and that preferably don't require building from source-- I've never done that)02:18
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Riddellmouche: emacs?02:22
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foznotmy dvd playback is wretched with ubuntu and totem with gxine, any suggestions?02:24
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Ainvarcan anyone tell me if a laptop running this type of cpu will be a little powerful?   Intel PentiumM Processor 745 (1.80GHz/400MHz FSB)02:26
Ainvarand how well will it run linux02:26
|QuaD|very well02:26
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FR500hi02:27
FR500what is Hoary Array 4?02:28
apokryphosFR500: The fourth Array of Hoary.02:28
FR500and that means?02:29
foznothooray for hoary02:29
FR500something like rc4?02:29
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apokryphoshehe02:30
apokryphosFR500: Pretty much. I think of it as the beta stages.02:30
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FR500oh ok02:31
FR500and that is the latest one02:31
apokryphos'tis02:31
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FR500dang i should be close to recieving my warty cds, and now i release next stable version should be close02:31
apokryphosheh02:32
apokryphosno worries. You can just do the apt-get dist-upgrade, of course.02:33
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shadeofgreywhats the best equivellant to Trillian for linux?02:34
GammaRaygaim02:34
FR500well wouldnt that take looong?02:34
FR500i guess downloading the whole cd is faster02:34
shadeofgreygaim can do msn, aim, and icq?02:34
GammaRayyes02:34
shadeofgreyokay02:34
GammaRayit's a poor name (-;02:34
cocoli dont use a printer can i remove all cups-stuff?02:36
FR500skype uses a different network right?02:37
apokryphosshadeofgrey: Kopete :P02:38
apokryphosFR500: Not that long. Depends on your Internet speed, really.02:39
FR500dsl 12802:39
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apokryphosFR500: What's the download limit on that?02:40
FR500like 20kb/s02:40
FR50020kbps02:40
apokryphosWill take some time, but easily do-able. Might take you a night or so, I'd guess.02:40
FR500i ask because i was adding support for software suspend on my kernel, but it killed my wifi02:42
FR500so i was thinking about upgrading to hoary02:42
apokryphosdefinitely a good idea02:42
apokryphosand pretty easy, too.02:42
FR500easier than custom kernel i hope02:43
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Flinthi02:43
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FR500u said apt-get dist-upgrade02:44
FR500and thats it?02:44
apokryphossudo apt-get dist-upgrade, yup, that's it02:45
apokryphosOh wait02:45
apokryphosyou have to change your sources.list first02:45
FR500i guess it will add an entry on grub in case something breaks02:45
FR500oh02:45
FR500ok02:45
apokryphosI'll get you the link for the file.02:45
Flinthi is ubuntu as user friendly as mandrake because i own mandrake 10.1 and people on GIMPnet told me tat mandrake is rubbish and that Ubuntu is much better also i am 14 and newbi or about 1-2weeks on mandrake would yourecomend this distro for me?02:46
apokryphosActually, I'd recommend using mine -- have some extra repos: www.youmortals.com/stuff/sources.list02:46
Phusionmmmyes02:46
FR500flint: yes02:46
FR500thanks apokryphos02:47
apokryphosFlint: I find Ubuntu better than Mandrake, yes. Faster for me. Quite user friendly; has a great starting up guide etc02:47
Flintapokryphos: when you say Quite user friendly what do you mean there is more reading that mandrake02:47
AegirFlint, Ubuntu definatly should work well for you02:47
AegirIm 16 and a 'Nux intermediate, works great for me02:48
apokryphosFlint: I've only tried Mandrake 10.0, and yup -- it was user friendly. Ubuntu doesn't have a Graphical Installation, but past that, it seemed pretty accessible to me.02:48
FlintGraphical Installation! so how do you install it?02:49
AegirAnd Ubuntu's text based install is very easy02:49
Flintis there gnome?02:49
apokryphosFlint: Text-based, like Debians. Though, easy yup.02:49
apokryphosFlint: Gnome is the default, yes.02:49
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Flintdoes gdesklets work on it?02:49
FR500Flint: u could try the livecd02:49
AegirHeehee, I have my five CD's in the mail on Chipit02:50
Flintnah ill get the free cd shiping if i do use it02:50
Aegir*Shipit02:50
AegirYeah, pretty generous offer from Canonical02:50
AegirFree CD's and all02:51
Flinti mgiht gt 10 from www.ubuntulinux.org02:51
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elTigrewhat do I need to play avis?02:52
apokryphoselTigre: mplayer/xine/totem/etc.02:52
cocoltotem-xine02:52
elTigrewell totem doesn't play my avis02:53
apokryphoselTigre: Probably doesn't have the codecs. Get mplayer.02:53
cocolwhat is wax?02:53
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apokryphosyou will, most probably, have to get extra codecs. See the "restricted formats" article on the site.02:53
AegirRighto, was wondering about Totem and differnt codecs02:54
Flintwell thanks but i think i will get used to linux mandrkae for a while02:54
AegirMan I love Gnome-Bittorent, I didnt even have to set up port-forwarding and it worked perfectly02:54
AegirYeah, that maybe a good first step02:55
AegirI started on Mandrake02:55
apokryphosFlint: Not a bad distro; go for it.02:55
AegirDitched it after It spat out any program I tried to compile02:55
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apokryphosheh02:55
elTigreI can't find mplayer in synaptic02:56
apokryphosAegir: You probably needed the build essentials ;-)02:56
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elTigreand yes I have universe enabled02:56
shadeofgreywhats the best way to encorporate file encryption into linux?02:56
Aegirapokryphos, I was using the community version, every time I did anything 'heavy' with Urpmi the whole distro crashed to hell02:56
travail101I have a question, that may incur a second question based on the answer to the first02:56
apokryphosAegir: I'm sure that's not the norm. ;)02:56
travail101does the latest ubuntu LiveCD have the linux-wlan-ng drivers and tools?02:57
Aegirapokryphos, I couldnt care, I have Ubuntu now and it works like a charm02:57
Aegir:D02:57
AegirFirst distro thats allowed me to ditch windows altogether02:57
apokryphosYup; Ubuntu is great.02:57
travail101but does it have linux-wlan-ng? on the LiveCD...02:58
shadeofgreyi definately need help with file encryption02:58
AegirHeehee, Cedega is 96& downloaded02:58
FR500travail i dont know that, buut my wifi works fine02:58
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GammaRayshadeofgrey: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/archive/4/2004/04/1/16620702:59
travail101there aren't any ubuntu devs in here are there?03:00
travail101I asked in the forumns too...03:00
travail101I have a Prism2_USB based wifi solution (namely D-Link DWL-122) which is currently only supported by the drivers from the linux-wlan-ng project... gnoppix has it... but knoppix isn't cool in the way that ubuntu is cool03:01
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travail101vale es igual03:03
travail101entonces puedo probar Gentoo RR4 LiveCD...03:04
travail101gracias por tu ayuda03:04
shadeofgreywhats the command for installing the flashplayer for firefox?03:04
shadeofgreyapt-get install flashplayer-mozilla doesnt work03:05
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JDahlshadeofgrey, what error do you get, and do you run Warty or Hoary?03:05
shadeofgreyhoary03:06
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bigern75hello ya'll03:09
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bigern75i got a question for ya    please :)03:09
AegirGo ahead03:10
shadeofgreyhow do i unpack a tar.gz file?  gzip first right?03:10
spadesgunzip03:10
AegirFile roller should do it,03:10
bur[n] ershadeofgrey: tar xvfz blah.tar.gz03:10
spadestar xzf file03:10
bzbbshadeofgrey, tar -xzf03:10
bur[n] eror use file-roller03:10
JDahlshadeofgrey, tar xzvf03:10
bigern75kewl     thanx03:10
_4strOlol everything is possible on ubuntu :)03:11
bigern75booting kernel 2.6.8.1-3-386   it will not mount mt raid partitionsd03:11
bigern75*my raid partition03:11
jklw00t, mplayer with dvd sucess!03:11
shadeofgreycrap03:12
bigern75error 17: cannot mount seleted partition03:12
shadeofgreyokay i need to know what the command is to delete something03:12
jklrm03:12
bigern75root (hd1,0)03:13
jklrm blah(then hit tab) to delete blahblahblah.txt03:13
bigern75filesystem type unknown, partition type 0xfd03:13
JDahlshadeofgrey, you just answer my question of what error apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla gives you, instead installing and screwing up everything manually03:14
JDahlyou could just...03:14
shadeofgreyJDahl - it says the archive doesnt exist03:14
jkllater, room. thanks for the chatter.03:14
bigern75kernel  /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.8.1-3-386 root=/dev/hde1 ro quiet splash03:14
JDahlshadeofgrey, did you enable universe?03:14
shadeofgreyyes03:15
JDahlshadeofgrey, try apt-cache search flash. It could be named differently under Hoary03:16
bigern75booting kernel 2.6.8.1-3-38603:16
bigern75root (hd1,0)03:16
bigern75filesystem type unknown, partition type 0xfd03:16
bigern75 kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.8.1-3-386 root=/dev/hde1 ro quiet splash03:16
bigern75error 17: cannot mount seleted partition03:16
bigern75sorry for the flood,   but thats the error i get,   anyone know how to fix this03:17
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shadeofgreyokay it got the archive but when i open firefox it doesnt work03:18
bigern75please,   it willnot find my other hd's03:18
JDahlshadeofgrey, try entering the url, about:plugins... is flash listed?03:18
shadeofgreyit says application/x-shockwave-flash flash plugin  swf enabled03:19
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jonowhen I localhost:631 CUPS asks me for a login and root dosen't work???03:20
shadeofgreyhow do i remove a directory03:20
cocolshadeofgrey, sudo apt-get install flasplayer-mozilla03:20
cocolflashplayer03:21
shadeofgreycouldnt find package03:21
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shadeofgreyjust tell me how to remove a directory?03:21
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JDahljono, Ubuntu disabled browser configuration for CUPS... you have to use the configuration tool from the menus03:21
jonofor my printer I'm supposed to change it to /dev/null but don't know how03:22
cocolsudo rm -rf /home/yourname/packagename03:22
bigern75hmmmmm      i wonder if theres another mbr on there from windows03:22
JDahlshadeofgrey, rm -r <dir>... there's also a handy command called "man" we linux like03:22
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bur[n] erjono == jono from lugradio?03:24
jonobigern I'm a windows victim03:24
jonono bur[n] er03:24
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bur[n] eraw, just checkin ;)03:24
jonoI'm a pure kentucky hillbilly :)03:24
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elTigreshould I install java support from firefox, or can I install it via apt-get?03:25
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jonohttp://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Lexmark-X125     The second paragraph from the bottom is where I'm stuck :(03:26
JDahlelTigre, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java03:26
JDahlelTigre, but in summary - you can just apt-get it if you update sources.list03:27
jonoI don't have /dev/null in my drop down menu for the printer03:27
jonoin Devicecs03:27
jonoDevices03:28
spadesit says to use custom03:28
spadesand input /dev/null03:28
jonoi don't see one03:28
zenwheno03:28
zenwhenhello fellows03:28
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bigern75is there a way for ubuntu to ignore other filesystems on other hd's03:29
pestilencebigern75: edit /etc/fstab03:29
bigern75but  during boot03:29
pestilencebigern75: be more specific03:30
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bigern75pestilence, booting kernel 2.6.8.1-3-38603:30
bigern75root (hd1,0)03:30
bigern75filesystem type unknown, partition type 0xfd03:30
bigern75 kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.8.1-3-386 root=/dev/hde1 ro quiet splash03:30
bigern75error 17: cannot mount seleted partition03:30
shadeofgreyokay guys....  now all i need to know is this:  im a writer and have a huge directory full of all the research outlines and chapter document files for eight different novels and would like to encrypt the contents of the directory with the blowfish cipher at 2048 bits.  how would i go about something like that?03:31
pestilencebigern75: perhaps that is a problem with your installation of grub03:31
pestilencedoes it still boot o.k.?03:31
bigern75yea   i gotta edit it and take out the root (hd1,0) line and it boots fine03:32
pestilencebigern75: you have to edit what?03:32
bigern75well,  i hit enter, then 'd' to delete the line then hit 'b' to boot03:33
bigern75when i hit enter ....03:34
bigern75it goes to gnu grub v.9503:34
pestilencebigern75: definitely sounds like a problem with grub03:35
bigern75then i delete the line root (hd1,0)   and it boots just fine03:35
pestilencebigern75: look for menu.lst for grub03:35
bigern75hmmmm03:35
pestilenceprobably in /boot/grub/menu.lst03:35
bigern75ok   let me log on03:35
jonodo i have to somehow mount a /dev/null before it will show up in my printer Devices list?03:36
bigern75ok   i found it pestilence03:37
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carlK2warty - drum drum drum..... anyone know what I am talking about?03:40
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bigern75pestilence,   what should i be lookin for03:41
pestilencebigern75: well, if you think root (hd1,0) is the problem03:42
pestilencethen look for that :)03:42
pestilenceyou should probably comment out the section that contains it03:42
pestilencebeginning with "title"03:42
pestilenceand ending with "boot"03:43
pestilenceactually03:43
pestilenceit will contain almost exactly the error you are getting03:43
pestilencekernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.8.1-3-386 root=/dev/hde1 ro quiet03:43
pestilence                  splash03:43
bigern75ok  kewl   i found the lines03:43
pestilencejust comment them out, don't delete them ;)03:44
bigern75##   right03:44
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FR500i downloaded beep media player and the wma plugin, it installs succefully but it doesnt appear in the preferences nor does work03:45
bigern75it wont let write to it03:45
carlK2ok, so perhaps a bit of deatail... I installed warty on a toshiba 2600 and somewhere on boot, drums start playing....03:45
pestilencebigern75: you have to use sudo to edit it03:46
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carlK2oh wow .. my gf just fixed it...  how cools is that...03:47
pestilencebigern75: how are you editing it currently03:47
target-XIs there a good how to about connecting to a bluetooth headphone (normally used to connect to a mobile phone)?03:47
pestilencewhat program03:47
bigern75i cant03:47
larsson_I cant change my resolution. The highest one aviable is 800x600, but i want 1024x768 . I am using xorg and the modes are set to 1024x768 but still, it uses 800x600. Any ideas?03:47
pestilencedo you know how to use vim?03:47
pestilenceor pico?03:47
carlK2well, fixed... now there is no sound (or so I am told)03:47
borgistalarsson...hit alt & +03:47
borgistauntil you get to the resolution you want.03:48
borgistactrl & alt & + *03:48
larsson_It just pendles between 640x480 and 800x60003:48
borgistahmmm...03:48
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bigern75pestilence,   i aint used them b403:49
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larsson_Any ideas? Cant change it in gnome either. It just says thoose two resolutions.03:50
shadeofgreywhats the best file encryptor for ubuntu?03:50
pestilencebigern75: basically, you need superuser priveledges to edit that file.  i'm not sure how exactly this is handled through graphical editors.  i can tell you that if you go to a command prompt and type "sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst" you will get an editor which can edit that file :)03:51
borgistalarsson...i'd say try the forums @ www.ubuntuforums.org03:51
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bigern75ok kewl03:51
larsson_I will do that. Thanks.03:51
pestilencebigern75: perhaps "sudo gedit ..." would be easier.  i don't know03:52
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bigern75sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst   worked great!!    i just need to put ## infront of those lines correct03:53
pestilenceyup03:54
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pestilencebe careful...you need to leave at least one "title ...boot"03:54
pestilencebut if you are commenting out the one you *know* is causing the error, there shouldn't be any problem.03:55
bigern75ok   gedit was better03:56
shadeofgreyso nobody here encrypts any of their data?03:57
HrdwrBoByou can use gpg/pgp03:57
pestilenceshadeofgrey: yes, use gpg03:57
pestilencemaybe the package name is gnupg03:57
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bigern75ok   im rebooting it   lets see what happens03:58
bigern75the next line in that grub gave me an error   :P03:59
pestilenceargh03:59
pestilencedoes it still boot using your previous methodology?03:59
bigern75yep03:59
bigern75its that root (hd1,0)  thats causing the problem04:00
pestilencebigern75: i'm not sure04:00
pestilencebigern75: paste the results of "df" in #flood04:01
bigern75i think theres an mbr on there from windows,  that my be the filesystem ittalkin about04:01
bigern75df?04:01
bigern75oh04:02
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bigern75brb04:03
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pestilencebigern75: you are probably right.  i think it needs to say "root (hd4,0)".  try that04:09
pestilencebigern75: wait.04:09
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pestilencebigern75: ok, i think that's right :)04:10
pestilencejudging purely from the fact that you appended root=/dev/hde104:10
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FR500i installed beep from source (make install) how do i remove it?04:13
GammaRayFR500: try make uninstall04:14
FR500i get an error04:15
FR500let me see what it says04:15
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FR500nm, worked now04:15
GammaRayFR500: in the future use checkinstall to generate a deb to install04:15
subterrificwooo04:15
subterrificgot skype packaged for amd6404:15
FR500gammaray: how do i do that04:16
GammaRayFR500: http://asic-linux.com.mx/~izto/checkinstall/04:16
FR500ok. is ur name  GammaRay after the band?04:17
GammaRayyea04:17
FR500cool04:17
bigern75im back04:18
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PsychoMonkeydoes anyone have time for a quick question?04:18
FR500just ask man04:19
sachsdaniels?04:19
PsychoMonkeyi'm kinda a newbie to ubuntu04:19
PsychoMonkeyinstalling it for the first on an actual system (no vm)04:19
sachsi have a problem where it only has two resolutions in system prefs - 800x600 and 1024x76804:19
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danielssachs: ?04:19
PsychoMonkeyi have a 2 ide hds and 1 sata hd and the install hangs when detecting the sata04:20
PsychoMonkeysomeone mentioned something about the different kernels04:20
PsychoMonkeyis there a place to get the most up to date kernels?04:20
PsychoMonkeyor can i find out if my sata chipset is supported by ubuntu?04:21
FR500hmmm04:21
FR500though one04:21
PsychoMonkeysorry if its a stupid question :S04:22
MobyTurboPsychoMonkey, the most up to date kernel source is at kernel.org, but that isn't a good idea to run.04:22
pestilencePsychoMonkey: did you look at the advanced boot options when the cd initially boots?04:22
PsychoMonkeyi know at mandrake's website they have a way to check for compatable hardware, but i'm really trying to get ubuntu to work04:22
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PsychoMonkeytrying to look through that now04:23
mebaran151hey04:23
mebaran151anyone know if Openoffice 2.0 is up on the mirrors yet04:23
mebaran151I would like to see it04:23
mebaran151it looks cool04:23
PsychoMonkeyjust curious if anyone else had this problem or if there was someplace to look for specific info on compatable sata chipsets04:23
mebaran151or does anyone know the mirror04:24
mebaran151PsychoMonkey, my nvidia sata works fine04:24
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bigern75ok  pestilence,04:24
bigern75got a prblem04:24
pestilencebigern75: shoot04:24
PsychoMonkeyso it detected it ok? was it pre-existing or did you add it at a later time?04:24
bigern75it doesnt have that boot anymore,  it has the other 2,  well when i delete the root(hd1,0) it goes thru, but doesnt boot up04:26
bigern75it just goes to the command line04:26
bigern75rooat@xxxxxxxxxx:~#04:26
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pestilencebigern75: ok, so edit the menu.lst file and uncomment out the lines you commented out04:27
bigern75sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lsti04:27
elTigreI'd like to compile gtkmm application....04:27
elTigrebut after installing gtkmm-dev, there's still no compiler04:27
elTigreonly gcc-2.9504:27
pestilencebigern75: did you see my suggestion about changing that line to "root (hd4,0)"04:27
elTigrenothing like gcc04:27
danielselTigre: sudo apt-get install build-essential04:27
bigern75i tried   maybe i screwed something up04:27
bigern75ill try again04:27
pestilenceoh, you tried the root (hd4,0) suggestion?04:28
bigern75yea,   it said it didnt exsist04:29
pestilenceinteresting04:29
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pestilencehow many hard drives do you have?04:30
stuNNedAmaranth: think it's  safe to move over to Hoary on a semi-production workstation?04:30
bigern75304:30
pestilenceoh :)04:30
pestilencethen what is this business about /dev/hde1?04:30
bigern75itried 3,0   nogo04:30
pestilenceoh...you have 2 cd-roms?04:31
AmaranthstuNNed: At this point I think it might be ok, as long as you can risk having the machine down for an hour at any random time.04:31
pestilencewhere is ubuntu installed04:31
bigern75yea04:31
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bigern75primary hd04:31
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mebaran151anybody know a mirror from which I could get Openoffice 2.004:32
mebaran151AMD64 (please)04:32
pestilencethen root (hd1,0) should probably be root (hd0,0)04:32
pestilencewow04:32
bigern75hmmmmm  i didnt try 0,0   itried every other combo04:32
bigern75reboot04:33
pestilenceso04:33
pestilencethe drive at hd004:33
pestilenceis the master on your primary ide channel04:33
pestilenceassuming you have ide drives :)04:33
pestilenceand the second 0 indicates the first partition04:33
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|QuaD|mebaran151: a mirror?04:33
LinuxJonesOOo version 2 is available in Hoary ...cool04:34
bigern75hehe    0,0  booted it04:34
pestilencecool04:34
bigern75lets see if it sees the other disks04:34
pestilencei am puzzled as to why it says root=/dev/hde104:34
bigern75thats whats in the grub04:35
pestilenceright, but why is it in there :)04:35
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pestilenceseems to me it should say "root=/dev/hda1"04:35
msg43how do I edit gnome menus04:35
bigern75maybe i screwed up during partitioning04:35
pestilencebigern75: something happened.04:36
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bigern75:(  its still not picking up the other hd's04:36
pestilencewhat do you mean04:36
pestilencewhere are you expecting them to be picked up04:36
bigern75yea04:37
bigern75i put them on raid0 during partition stage of setup04:37
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pestilenceand on top of that, i gotta run...good luck04:38
bigern75well,   i put the 2 extra dives as raid, then went up and put them on raid004:38
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ReveXWhat's the command to untar a .bz2?04:44
MobyTurboReveX, bzip2 -dc | tar xvf -04:45
MobyTurbooops, forgot the file name - that comes after the -dc04:45
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GammaRayReveX: tar xvjf file04:47
ReveXalright04:47
ReveXthanks04:47
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mebaran151like a place to get AMD64 debs for Openoffice 2.004:48
mebaran151is Openoffice ready for AMD64 prime time yet04:51
|QuaD|mebaran151: check the repo's04:54
|QuaD|no mirror necessary04:54
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mebaran151checked04:56
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mebaran151the repos only have liek half of two04:56
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stephen-Hi.. quick question, I didn't install grub, can I boot with the install cd? I don't want grub installed btw.04:59
niptacis anyone using Nvu on ubuntu?05:00
niptacdoes this work nvu-0.81-pc-linux2.6.10-gnu.tar.bz2  ?05:01
|QuaD|niptac: yes, check the www.ubuntuguide.com05:01
niptacok thanks05:01
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Kokiis it possible to boot Ubunto in VGA mode? If so, how?05:02
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bzbbok05:08
bzbblets say I'm sshed into another machine on my network, how would use that machine's X?05:08
GammaRaytry stating an X app when you log in05:09
GammaRaystarting I mean05:10
bzbbI get a cannot open display error05:10
GammaRaymake sure the server's ssh allows X forwarding05:11
Ainvarwell hopefully by this time next saturday I will be using ubuntu on my new laptop05:11
bob2bzbb: ssh -X user@host05:12
bzbbok05:12
Kokiwhere can I find out a list of vga= resolution parameters?05:12
bob2you need xutils or the equivalent installed on the remote machine05:12
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bzbbbob2, thats installed05:13
bzbbrock!05:14
Ainvarhope  ubuntu rulls well on a dell inspiron 860005:15
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bigern75hey stephen-05:20
stuNNedAinvar: hoary or warty?05:21
stephen-Hey bigern75 :P05:21
bigern75funny meetin u here ;P05:21
bigern75cant get no help?05:21
stephen-bigern75: No :(05:21
ReveXhm05:22
ReveXCould anyone tell me what's wrong here:05:22
ReveXpangox.c:1559: error: `display' undeclared (first use in this function)05:22
ReveXpangox.c:1560: error: `layout' undeclared (first use in this function)05:22
ReveXpangox.c:1575: error: `drawable' undeclared (first use in this function)05:22
ReveXpangox.c:1575: error: `gc' undeclared (first use in this function)05:22
ReveXpangox.c:1577: error: `x' undeclared (first use in this function)05:22
bigern75greetings ya'll    can u help my friend out here05:22
ReveXpangox.c:1578: error: `y' undeclared (first use in this function)05:22
ReveXI'm missing something?05:22
bigern75he has a quick question05:22
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bob2ReveX: you'd need to talk to whoever wrote the thing you're trying to compile05:22
bob2but make sure you have gnome-devel and build-essential installed05:23
ReveXIt's pango05:23
ReveXhm05:23
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ReveXHow would I install those?05:23
Polakohola tengo una preg05:23
bob2recompiling pango seems like a bretty bad idea05:23
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Polakoalguien habla espaolllll05:23
ReveXWell I need to install it anyways05:23
bigern75quick question ya'll   anyone spare a minute05:23
ReveXlol05:23
bob2Polako: obviously not05:23
Polakoo por lo menos escrive ne espaol??05:24
bob2bigern75: just ask it05:24
bob2Polako: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.05:24
bigern75ok  stephen-   whats your question!!!05:24
stephen-[22:59]  <stephen-> Hi.. quick question, I didn't install grub, can I boot with the install cd? I don't want grub installed btw.05:24
Polakojejej ok05:24
stuNNedwhere can i find ubuntu milestone?05:24
bob2stephen-: yes05:24
bob2stuNNed: on the wiki05:24
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stephen-bob2: how so? :)05:24
bob2ReveX: er?  the default install of ubuntu has pango already.05:24
bob2ReveX: what are you trying to do?05:25
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ReveXcompile gaim05:25
stephen-bob2: I'm new at this ubuntu thing.. I've always used slackware. seems easier so far05:25
ReveXbut first05:25
ReveXi need gtk+05:25
bob2ReveX: you absolutely don't need to compile pango to compile gaim05:25
ReveXand for that i need all these05:25
Polakola cuestion es que deje instalando ubuntu y la anda que cuando llege me pidio que cree una cuenta de usuario con pass, y la cree05:25
bob2ReveX: gaim is also installed by default05:25
bob2Polako: come on dude05:25
ReveXI know05:25
Polakopero el prblem es que nunca me pidio la de root05:25
bob2 Polako: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.05:25
Polakobob205:25
Polakoya estoy pero nececito respuesta05:26
stuNNedso April 4th ok05:26
bob2ReveX: so what are you doing?05:26
bob2stuNNed: yes05:26
zinkelementcan anyone offer some help on installing gnophone?05:26
stuNNedbob2: is it safe to upgrade to hoary on a semi-production workstation?05:26
stuNNedat this point?05:26
bob2stephen-: you'd pass it boot options, I guess, but I wouldn't want to do that regularily05:26
bob2stephen-: why don't you want to instal lgrub?05:26
bob2stuNNed: I'm not sure...seems ok for me, but a fair number of people are complaining of evolution/OO crashiness05:26
stephen-bob2: That was a nightmare, I have this on an external usb drive. Grub ended up hiding my hda1 which was my main windows install.. took me hours to figure out.05:27
stuNNedbob2: two apps i don't use often, thanks05:27
bob2well, grub will always install on your first disk05:27
bob2since otherwise it won't be of any use05:27
bzbbthat sucked05:27
stephen-bob2: Yeah, never used grub before.. always lilo05:27
elTigrehmm somehow the distutils extension module (python) isn't installed...05:28
bob2elTigre: it's in python-dev in warty, iirc05:28
elTigreit should be part of the python distro since 2.0 I think05:28
bob2(bug).05:28
stephen-bob2: But anyways, what boot options do I give it?05:28
elTigreoh thank05:28
elTigres05:28
bob2stephen-: you can install lilo if you prefer it05:28
stephen-bob2: I'd rather not right now.05:28
Polakopassword of root in ubuntu05:28
Polakoplease05:28
bzbbI'm working on my new computer, sshed in, and all of a sudden, I get I shutdown mesg05:28
bob2Polako: there isn't one05:28
stephen-bob2: I wanna get this booted up and make sure it works.05:28
bzbbstupid brother05:28
bob2Polako: please read the FAQ05:28
zinkelementhelp with gnophone anyone?05:29
Polakook05:29
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bob2stephen-: actually, I don't think it'll work, since you need an initrd05:29
bob2and you need something like grub to load it for the kernel05:30
stephen-bob2: hum, grub floppy disk?05:30
bob2that might work, but I don't know anything about getting that working, sorry05:30
stephen-Thats ok05:30
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stephen-I'm going to go back poking arround with it I guess.. thanks again bob205:31
stuNNedbob2: thnx m805:32
devoGot some problems getting Gnome up.  Hope someone can help.  Getting a warning that sez: unable to read ICE authority file: /home/user/.ICEauthority05:32
bob2no problem.05:32
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devoI'm running in IceWM presently.05:32
bob2devo: login on a console (alt-f1).  run 'sudo rm ~/.ICEauthority'.  switch back to gdm (alt-f7). login.05:32
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bob2it's not related to icewm, ICE is an X IPC thing.05:33
bob2you ran k3b lately?05:33
devoI know.  I'm just running IceWM so I have some functionality.  Baseicallly I just need to nuke the file that's the problem and gdm will recreate it?05:33
bob2X will, yes.05:34
devonope.  no k3b lately.05:34
bzbbok, how do I bring up a window that is a display on the  remote machine?05:34
bob2or something else that you ran as root05:34
bob2bzbb: you can't05:34
bob2bzbb: or you can use VNC05:34
mebaran151anyone know the status of Openoffice 2.0 AMD6405:34
bob2not ready yet05:34
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bob2still doesn't build according to LWN last week05:34
bzbbbob2, too bad05:34
bzbbmakes configuring gnome remotely a bit of a pin05:35
bzbbpain05:35
bob2well, not really05:35
bob2you can run a full gnome session over ssh05:35
devobob2: do I do these instructions from IceWM or do I go back to the logon screen?05:35
bob2or just the programs you want05:35
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bob2devo: if you can login via icewm run it from an xterm or whatever05:35
bob2it doesn't matter where you run them05:35
bzbbbob2, it doesn't have to be over ssh05:35
bob2sure05:36
devookay.  we'll give it a try.  <fingers crossed>  <g>05:36
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bzbbis it possible to hit say, ctrl-alt f8 and get a remote machine?05:36
bob2you could if you wanted to05:36
SiRrUsanyone know much about setting up a palm pilot to work with ubuntu05:37
bzbbbob2, how hard?05:37
bob2start a remote X session in that VT05:37
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bob2not very, but mostly pointless05:37
mebaran151How come on the repos we have Openoffice2 common and i18n05:37
mebaran151but we dont have Openoffice 2 -bin yet05:37
mebaran151it would be nice for me to have a full 64 bit userland05:37
bob2yes, but OO hasn't been ported to amd64 yet05:38
bob2so no one can have that with OO, unfortunately05:38
bzbbbob2, how would I go about doing that?05:38
Kokihi everyone.05:38
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KokiI need some help to get Ubuntu working on a HP Pavilion laptop.05:39
ionswhy are there different directions for PIV vs non PIV PCs for the multimedia player plugin for Firefox?05:39
GIMP666is there a better apt-get program other than totem? for movies05:39
ionsxine05:39
bob2GIMP666: gxine is nice.05:39
ionsmplayer is also decent05:39
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GIMP666I have had trouble getting mplayer before05:40
GIMP666bob2, ill try gxine05:40
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GIMP666another question, whats better. Gnutella(I use) or qtella05:40
ionsnicotine05:40
bzbbnutella is best05:41
|QuaD|GIMP666: whats wrong with totem05:41
bzbbbecause you can spread it on bread05:41
ionsdoesn't answer your question but it's another option05:41
ionstotem is slow05:41
GIMP666|QuaD|, nothing wrong, just trying out other programs05:41
ionsxine loads in half the time05:41
|QuaD|GIMP666: oh05:41
GIMP666i wanted peoples opinion05:41
GIMP666I'm a test drive05:41
mebaran151bob2, is openoffice 2 going to be full 64 bit05:42
mebaran151I thought it was05:42
bob2mebaran151: "full 64 bit" is not the problem05:42
mebaran151ions totem with FFMPEG added on is pretty good05:42
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mebaran151bob2, what is then?05:43
bob2it contains a layer called UNO which has to be ported to each architecture05:43
mebaran151oh05:43
bob2it has not been ported to amd64 yet, aiui05:43
ionsI haven't tried that05:43
GIMP666is there an easy way to install quicktime4linux?05:43
mebaran151is that going to be ported soon?05:43
bob2they're trying, and I think the plan is for it to work in OO2, but it's not there yet05:43
GIMP666if there is could someone PM the steps05:43
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mebaran151coll thanks bob205:43
mebaran151saves me some searching05:44
mebaran151if it doesnt exist yet05:44
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mebaran151kind of like searching for Eldorado with only pretty pictures to spare05:44
mebaran151do you know if the 32 bit Openoffice.org emul libraries05:44
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mebaran151will be sufficient to run the new 64 bit OO05:44
GIMP666how do i get a movie file ext to run in gxine instead of totem now?05:44
devobob2: thanks my friend!  I'm back in busy ness!05:45
mebaran151I mean05:45
mebaran151the new OO205:45
nomasteryodauptime05:45
mebaran151not 64 bit OO, just a silly wishful slip05:45
nomasteryodaer, oops05:45
GIMP666nvm i figured out05:45
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niptacwhat kernel vrsion does ubuntu come with?05:46
bob22.6.8.1 in warty, 2.6.10 in hoary.05:46
niptacthanks05:47
GIMP666anyone a Undergrads (TV show) fan. I want Gimpy's boba fett background, where could I get it?05:47
stuNNedbob2: what is the extend of the DSDT initrd patch in hoary?05:47
bob2I'm not sure, fabbione or mjg59 would know about that.05:47
stuNNedk thnx05:47
bob2I just know my laptop doesn't need patches ;)05:47
stuNNedwhat type laptop?05:47
stuNNedbob2: what laptop do you recommend?05:47
GIMP666bob2, tahanks I like gxine alot05:48
stuNNedbob2: ibm thinkpad?05:48
GIMP666bob2, it loads the movies faster05:48
bob2stuNNed: yeah, x4005:48
stuNNedbob2: thnx05:48
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stuNNedbob2: what about a home workstation?05:48
bob2stuNNed: heh, my most recent desktop is from 199905:49
stuNNedbob2: k thnx heh05:50
stuNNedhmmm05:50
stuNNedever heard of monarchcomputer.com?05:50
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stuNNedthey sell linux compat computers in us05:51
bob2ah05:51
bob2for a desktop I'd probably build it myself05:51
bob2I have been thinking of getting one of tthose amd64 shuttles05:51
stuNNedok...05:52
stuNNedamd64 then you think?  for normal everyday use and no doom3 ? ;)05:52
bzbbhow do I fix a ruined .Xauthority file?05:52
bob2hm, I'm not much of a gamer05:52
stuNNedme neither really05:52
bob2bzbb: log out, kill it, log back in again05:52
stuNNedwhat's the shuttle?05:52
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LinuxJonesbzbb, delete it and re-login again05:53
bob2stuNNed: little pc's05:53
bob2one pci slot, two drive bays, pretty quiet if you get a decent fan05:53
stuNNedok05:53
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danielbellHey can someone try and help me with my laptop's sound (I have a feeling it's simply not going to work but i don't want to give up just yet), it's the built in soundcard on an Acer Travelmate 2000, (lspci says "0000:00:14.5 Multimedia audio controller: ATI Technologies Inc IXP150 AC'97 Audio Controller", I've tried a few tutorials using ALSA to configure it but no luck, i'm not sure if I just did it wrong ot if it doesn't work (AL05:56
danielbellSA compatability list says it works using atiixp module), anyone got some time to help?05:56
danielbelli got everything else on this laptop working except the sound :(05:56
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niptacthe unofficial ubuntu guide says to install nvu-0.80-pc-linux2.4.23-gnu.tar.bz2 - Tarball built on Linspire (Debian k2.4) gcc/g++ 2.95.4 I noticed a latest one is available which is nvu-0.81-pc-linux2.6.10-gnu.tar.bz2 - Tarball built on Linspire 5.0 beta (Debian k2.6.10), gcc/g++ 3.3.506:15
niptacwill the latest one be better06:15
niptacjust not sure if it was built on debian 2.6.1006:16
niptacand I have warty06:16
xFI'm running 0.81 on warty and it works fine06:16
niptaccool06:17
xFif anything its more stable than previous versions06:17
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niptacxF is it a stand alone or is nvu part of mozilla?06:17
xFnvu is the standalone version of mozilla composer06:18
membreyaanyone here know how to configure temp sensors on a motherboard with ubuntu?06:18
danielbelli can monitor mine via proc, with acpi06:19
danielbellbut you can install lm_sensors06:20
danielbelldunno the apt package for it06:20
membreya...may sound stupid but ive only been in linux for 2 weeks...what exactly do you do in proc?06:21
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Agrajagmembreya: cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/temperature06:21
danielbelldan@shit:~ $ cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRS/temperature06:22
danielbelltemperature:             44 C06:22
danielbellbut yours could be different06:22
danielbellthis is a laptop with ACPI06:22
membreyajust found it lol :)06:22
membreyathanks06:22
membreyathere's no way to get rpm's of fans? :(06:23
danielbellhave a look in /proc/acpi06:23
danielbellthere's some fan entries there but mine doesnt support it06:23
membreyamy fan only has state :(06:23
danielbellbut im thinking lm_sensors would be what you're after06:24
danielbellit actually uses the sensor chips on your motherboard to give you info, so if you have a fan sensor you can do it06:24
danielbelland there's plenty of eyecandy tools for displaying the results06:24
membreyait's just for torsmo...so doesnt need to be too fancy :)06:24
danielbellwhats torsmo?06:25
membreyahttp://torsmo.sourceforge.net/06:26
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danielbellthats cool06:26
red-nixcould someone please post the link for the hoary schedule as in chart of expected development goals06:26
danielbellso do you configure that to run commands?06:26
membreyajust run it on your desktop ...it has a configure file where you setup everything :)06:27
danielbellcool. maybe lm_sensors would be your bet06:27
danielbellid ont know the website, but google will tell ya06:27
danielbelli've never had it installed before though, never had an interest in monitoring temperatures on my linux desktop06:28
danielbellonly really care about that stuff when im gaming06:28
danielbell:)06:28
membreyayou can game in linux? :\06:29
membreya:P06:29
danielbellno im talking about when i boot in windows06:29
danielbelli have asus utility that tells me that stuff06:29
membreyai use my epox stuff...but since i dont game anymore i dont go into windows :)06:30
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danielbellyer i still use windows for games and alot of multimedia stuff06:32
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danielbelllinux doesnt have an app that beats dreamweaver imo06:32
OrangeSliceyea, but dreamweaver is supported in wine06:32
OrangeSlicewhat's your point.06:32
danielbelli dont think mx 2004 is06:32
red-nixnoone know that link by chance ? that shows when gold will come out and so forth06:32
danielbellthats the one i have06:33
OrangeSlicebesides, it's dreamweaver, adobe golive, and other "what you see is what you get" editors that output broken code that doesn't conform to web standards.06:33
OrangeSliceI'll stick with Bluefish :p06:33
danielbellyou can set dreamweaver to conform to standards06:33
ionsif you need Dreamweaver to make a site you have no business making sites.... <- opinion of pro Web dev but hey...06:34
danielbelli dont need dreamweaver, i just want to use it06:34
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membreyalol ions :P06:34
stuNNedwell... if you need FrontPage to make a site you have no business making sites....<- opinion of a user06:35
ionsyou spend most of your time cleaning cruft code06:35
danielbelli dont do anything even that complicated i just like the software06:35
ionsI hate when I get somebody's DW project put in front of me06:35
ionsit always costs them "extra"06:35
OrangeSlicehehe06:35
ionsDW is for making sites about your car and the drunk adventure you had camping06:36
danielbellwhat do they use at a pro level?06:36
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ionsfor Web dev?  I use Bluefish06:37
OrangeSliceBluefish is excellent06:37
membreya...if i was in windows I would say notepad :P06:37
ionslast time I paid attention to the Windows world many used Homesite but that was changed a while ago06:37
danielbellmaybe i'll have a look at bluefish06:37
danielbelli think ihave once before though06:37
danielbellcant remember06:37
ionsbluefish is pretty nice but it's not wysiwyg06:37
OrangeSlicehttp://bluefish.openoffice.nl06:37
ionsif that's what you want06:38
stuNNedwhat is wysiwyg?06:38
danielbellah ok, i only really use wysiwyg for doing tables, cos tables give me the shits ;\06:38
OrangeSliceBluefish is an example of free/oss that rivals commercial software.06:38
ionswhat you see is what you get06:38
bloggsWhat You See Is What You Get06:38
ionsewww! no tables!06:38
ionsread up on CSS and tableless design :)06:38
membreyaframes? :P06:39
ionsgah!06:39
danielbelllol06:39
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danielbellions: i will06:39
ionsgood place to start is a list apart06:39
ionsawesome site06:39
danielbellurl?06:40
membreyahmmm wonder if i can use frontpage in wine *taunts ion*06:40
ionshttp://www.alistapart.com/ + htmldog.com == sitely goodness06:40
membreyafrontpage makes l33t pages!06:40
ionsheh06:40
ionsI did a site for a guy taking his Frontpage site to CSS06:40
stuNNedncie06:40
stuNNednice06:40
stuNNedeven06:40
membreya.....fun :P06:40
ionssite went down in size over 60% and looks 10x better06:40
ionsall done in Bluefish btw06:41
Aegirlol06:41
ionsdieselgeek.com06:41
ionsnot a table to be found06:41
danielbelli just always found writing html stuff tedious06:41
danielbelli only do webpages cos i like using php, the frontends are the annoying part06:42
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danielbellto me that is06:42
ionsahhh06:42
ionshire me ;)06:42
danielbellsome people enjoy designing pages06:42
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danielbellah i dont do it for work, just for fun06:42
danielbelluntil i finish study :)06:42
stuNNedions: nice site, fast06:42
membreyathere has to be a kazaa network program for ubuntu >:(06:42
ionsahh, html is tedious but worth the effort06:42
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revahoy all!06:43
ionslike stuNNed just noted, well written html code helps a page render quickly06:43
revquite true06:43
membreyahey there rev06:43
revhey membreya06:43
ionsTY stuNNed06:43
pussfellermembreya: mldonkey unless they changed the protocol and cut them out06:44
revanyone know if there are any scripts sitting around for doing a save/restore of settings to a usb key drive (or maybe a floppy, or network- i could adapt it) for ubuntu live?06:44
pussfelleror run it in wine06:44
ionsgiFT gets on fasttrack still doesn't it?06:44
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pussfellerthats diff06:44
pussfellerwell, maybe not06:44
ionsnicotine is better imo though06:44
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pussfellerkazza the ghetto anyway membreya06:45
revi had the HDD in this laptop die, but i really don't think i need to replace it- all i really do is connect to my work machine via rdesktop, and browse the web in firefox. but it would be nice if my prefs got saved06:45
revkazaa blows, ugh06:45
photoguy41doesnt ubuntu come installed with X?06:45
revsoulseek is the best- nicotine for the client06:45
ionsphotoguy41: yes06:45
revphotoguy41: yeah06:45
ionsXfree06:45
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revsoulseek is goodfor albums06:45
ionsNICOTINE!! :)06:45
revkazaa seems to have  alot of singles, pop ones06:45
niptacdanielbell check this out  http://www.nvu.com/faq.html#whatis06:45
ionsit's soulseek but better06:45
membreyarev: I use it for music videos :)06:46
revions: i know, it uses the same network06:46
revmembreya: kazaa or the soulseek net?06:46
ionsNVU is OK but it will break CSS06:46
revvideos i can see kazaa having06:46
bloggsurl for nicotine?06:46
revbut i bet for the kind of stuff i listen to they don't have em06:46
OrangeSlicewww.google.com06:46
membreya971 music vids (39.5gb)06:46
OrangeSlice:p06:46
photoguy41then why when i try to compile fluxbox does it say Fluxbox requires the X Window System libraries and headers06:46
revmembreya: ;)06:46
membreyarev: of course they have britney spears!06:46
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Agrajagphotoguy41: because you don't have the X static libraries and headers installed06:46
revphotoguy41: it must not have the xfree-dev package06:46
bloggs:) Thanks OrangeSlice :)06:46
pussfellerwhat, you join rooms based upon certian types of music06:47
revyou can't compile apps unless you have the -dev package, with headers, etc06:47
ionshttp://nicotine.thegraveyard.org/ bloggs06:47
OrangeSliceyou're confusing soulseek with direct connect06:47
OrangeSlicesoulseek has a central network06:47
photoguy41is it on the apt-get repositories06:47
ionsnicotine is06:47
pussfellerdc++ was pretty cool a few years ago06:47
danielswhy are you trying to compile fluxbox?06:47
Agrajagphotoguy41: yes, and most likely so is fluxbox06:47
danielssudo apt-get install fluxbox06:47
membreyadc++ is only good at LANs :P06:48
pussfelleryes flux is in there, im on it now06:48
pussfelleri got alot of anime off there06:48
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photoguy41cool06:48
pussfellerbut i think the linux client is banned by alot of hubs now06:48
OrangeSlicebut dc++ has been ported to linux06:49
photoguy41so if i just got it, and it installed. do i still need to get the dev pkg06:49
OrangeSlicewhere the hell have you been?  >;o06:49
membreyasoulseek ....it kind of reminds me of friendster..."make new friends the easy way!!!"06:49
ionssoulseek/nicotine reminds me of the early Napster days06:49
ionsjust don't tell Lars06:50
membreyashhhh ions ...Napster is one of "them" now06:50
bloggsANy WinMX equivalent for ubuntu?06:50
photoguy41i like napster now06:50
photoguy41i pay for NTG06:50
compmanio36Ares.....Ares is the answer06:50
ionsheh yeah but the EARLY EARLY days were good06:50
revyeah, OG napster- 99-00 was the bomb06:51
ionsgoogle allinurl: foo format rocks pretty good too06:51
pussfellerthe guy who wrote dc++ for linux allowed you to spoof your shares06:51
revback in my dorm frosh year06:51
revman, best shit ever06:51
pussfelleror whatever it was called on lin06:51
danielbellion what about mozilla composer what is that like?06:52
membreyano support for kazaa in any of the proggies listed..dont make me go back to windows for my music vids :P06:52
ionsbloated06:52
revdanielbell: about like what netscape composer was06:52
pussfellerlars is too busy helping paul mccartney track down beatalicca so they can serve them papers06:52
revnvu is based on it IIRC06:52
ionsbluefish is the way to go06:52
revyeah, but that's not visual06:53
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revi mean, i'd prefer just writing it in emacs06:53
revbut for people who want visual, a non-visual editor isn't the answer06:53
OrangeSlicevisual is evil06:53
ionsindeed06:53
OrangeSliceconform to W3C standards!06:53
pussfellerwhat do you need besides syntax highlighting06:53
ionsvery evil!06:53
OrangeSliceor I'll come to your house06:53
OrangeSlicewith my big knife >;006:53
ionsOrangeSlice and I will hunt you down!06:53
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ionsassimilate you to W3C!!06:54
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membreyaas long as ms live w3c will not be all it can :P06:54
OrangeSlicemicrosoft is dying06:54
membreyanooooooooooo06:54
ionsanyone know if the mplayerplug-in is in the Hoary repositories?06:54
pussfellerheh ms is alive and well06:55
FR500yes it is06:55
danielbelli even once considered using those free & open templates people make availiable for when i wanna make a php site but then i can never really find something i want (alot of cool designs though), this css stuff looks cool though06:55
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danielbellmaybe i could bring myself to write it06:55
OrangeSlicePeople are finally getting fed up and switching06:55
OrangeSliceit's beautiful06:55
OrangeSlicethe giant will fall!06:55
membreyaactually OrangeSlice I have to admit, in the 2 weeks I've been running ubuntu I've rarely gone into windows....everything is working (tv out, dvd, tv in) ...all happy just need to learn how to transcode dixv to mpeg06:55
stuNNedions: what's your opinion of xhtml?06:55
revubuntu is very nice, imho06:56
OrangeSlicemencoder?06:56
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pussfellerseems that a few big corps are making the switch for their desktops, and thats going to drive adoption06:56
reveven my mac loving girlfriend is switching their old PCs over to ubuntu06:56
revthough eventually theyl'l all be replaced by macs06:56
ionsit's ok06:56
OrangeSlicetranscoding will only lose quality though06:56
stuNNedok thnx06:56
danielbellyea i like ubuntu aswell, my teacher gave me a cd06:56
revbut it's the first linux distro she hasn't abhorred from the start06:56
OrangeSlicelike converting an ogg to a mp3... it doesn't work06:56
danielbellthe proper little cardboard thingy with 2 cds inside06:56
pussfellerbut you wont like it when all those windows users start using linux ;)06:56
danielbellhe had them sitting on his desk heh06:56
revOrangeSlice: sure that works, but you can loose quality06:56
revbut i convert mp3s to oggs often06:56
membreyaOrangeSlice: it works in windows using nero (i burn my episodes of lost to DVD)06:56
revfor my PDA06:56
OrangeSlicewhat did I just say06:56
ionsdepends what you're doing - always try and pick the right tool for the job.  Too many people in IT use sledghammers to put in drywall nails...06:57
danielbellonly thing that peeves me off is my laptop sound isnt working06:57
revi rip at 256 kbit VBR on my desktop and transcode for ogg, to get nice lil 30 MB albums06:57
danielbelleverything else does except that06:57
OrangeSliceI rip in lossless and transcode to Musepack06:57
revmmhmm06:57
OrangeSliceI get nice 70mb albums with crystal clear sound06:57
pussfellerwhy use musepack if they are already lossless06:57
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revnice06:58
revbut i don't tihnk there is a musepack player for pocketpc06:58
revmaybe06:58
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ions128oggs work well with my craptastic headphones06:58
membreyahow MUCH quality loss would there be between divx to mpeg?06:58
membreyaor is there a way to directly write the divx to DVD06:58
OrangeSlicetoo much06:58
OrangeSlicempeg sucks06:58
gcan anybody please tell me where does the local file reside06:58
membreyag: what "local" file?06:58
ionswhich local file?06:58
OrangeSlicelol06:59
ionsin here> /06:59
membreya...a smart a$$ would simply reply on your harddrive06:59
gi am a new ubuntu user06:59
ionswhat are you looking for g?06:59
gand when i try to get the upgrade06:59
gthat message comes out07:00
ionswhich message?  about the local file?07:00
gyes07:00
pussfellerwhat exactly are you trying to do g07:00
ionscan you paste the message here?07:00
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gok i will07:01
ionsonly if it's short - don't flood the channel07:01
g ?????????????????????? Configuring acl-pro-installer ??????????????????????07:01
g  ? You need to specify the directory where your local copy resides. This   ?07:01
g  ? local copy can be either the raw archive files from your CDROM or an    ?07:01
g  ? already unpacked AllegroCL installation.                                ?07:01
g  ?                                                                         ?07:01
g  ? To abort this installation, enter a blank line.                         ?07:01
g  ?                                                                         ?07:01
ionslike that07:01
g  ? Enter the directory containing your AllegroCL copy.07:01
gexcuse me07:01
OrangeSliceack07:01
ionsok, did you download acl-pro-installer?07:01
revoooh lisp07:02
pussfellerisnt allegro for allergies07:02
revtasty07:02
gi think i did07:02
ionsopen a terminal07:02
ionsand type 'ls -a'07:02
gok07:02
ionsdo you see it listed?07:02
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gno i do not see it07:04
ionshmm ok07:04
ionstype 'sudo updatedb'07:04
git say that it could not open database07:05
ionswhen that finishes do 'locate acl-pro'07:05
ionsza?  hmmm07:06
ionsdid you put in the correct password?07:06
gyes i did07:06
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ionsanyone here know 'find' syntax?07:07
ionsI always forget how to use it07:07
ionswhere did you download the acl-pro thing from g?07:08
glocate acl-pro worked07:08
ionsok cool07:08
ionswhere is it?07:08
ionsbrb - need more beer07:09
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g/var/lib/dpkg/info/acl-pro-installer.config07:10
g/var/lib/dpkg/info/acl-pro-installer.list07:10
g/var/lib/dpkg/info/acl-pro-installer.templates07:10
g/var/lib/dpkg/info/acl-pro-installer.postinst07:10
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g/var/lib/dpkg/info/acl-pro-installer.postrm07:10
g/var/lib/dpkg/info/acl-pro-installer.md5sums07:10
ionsok07:11
ionswell there's your answer - that's where the local file is07:12
ionswell...wait07:12
ghow can i delete the file07:12
ions rm /var/lib/dpkg/info/acl-pro-installer.*07:13
photoguy41does someone know the name of the xfree-dev pkg so i can apt-get?07:13
ionsthat'll get all of them07:13
crimsunphotoguy41: 'libx11-dev', but you'll probably need more07:13
photoguy41like?07:14
OrangeSliceyou can use apt-cache to search repositories07:14
OrangeSlice"apt-cache search <query>"07:14
crimsunphotoguy41: for what do you need them?07:14
gok thank you very much07:14
ionsany of you guys have the apple movie trailers working?07:14
photoguy41well i installed fluxbox by using apt-get install, but now when i open it there is an error, and it says i need those files07:14
crimsunions: work fine with w32codecs+{mplayer,vlc}07:15
photoguy41well thats what it needed when i tried to compile from source07:15
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photoguy41and then i found it on apt-get repositories07:15
crimsunphotoguy41: eh? fluxbox installs just fine from the apt repo(s)07:15
photoguy41so i dont need to get the others then?07:16
crimsunphotoguy41: no, unless you plan to compile fluxbox, which is not necessary unless you _must_ have the absolute latest version.07:17
photoguy41no. i just want to use it07:18
photoguy41but maybe its because it works best in KDE?07:18
crimsunphotoguy41: fluxbox is simply a window manager; it has nothing to do with KDE or GNOME.07:18
photoguy41oh, well let me post the error07:19
LinuxJonesnight all07:19
photoguy41can i post it, or should i msg it to you07:20
crimsunphotoguy41: paste it onto http://pastebin.ca07:20
ionsheh07:20
ionscanadian pastebin07:21
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photoguy41http://pastebin.ca/615607:22
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Codymanhow can i permanently enable dma on my dvd-rom drive?07:22
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crimsunCodyman: edit /etc/hdparm.conf07:22
crimsunphotoguy41: what desktop environment were you in?07:23
danielbellchecking for X... no07:23
danielbellSorry, X is very much needed07:23
danielbelldan@shit:~/torsmo-0.18 $07:23
danielbelltyped from gnome-terminal in X :|07:23
photoguy41gnome07:23
crimsunphotoguy41: gnome was already running metacity for its window manager, so another can't also run on that screen.07:24
crimsundanielbell: warty or hoary?07:24
danielbellwarty i think07:25
Codymancrimsun: so like /dev/hdc -d ??07:25
crimsundanielbell: sudo aptitude install xlibs-dev07:25
photoguy41how do i kill metacity?07:26
crimsunCodyman: -d1 /dev/hdc, yes07:26
danielbellty07:26
crimsunphotoguy41: if you kill it from within gnome, gnome-session will restart it.07:26
photoguy41how do i disable it so i can run flux07:27
snowblinkHi, has anyone built mod_jk for Apache2 on Ubuntu?07:27
crimsunphotoguy41: what are you attempting to accomplish - do you want to run only fluxbox, or do you want fluxbox to replace metacity as gnome's window manager?07:28
photoguy41i think i want fluxbox07:28
crimsunphotoguy41: then you want to create an ~/.xsession with "exec /usr/bin/fluxbox" as its contents07:29
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photoguy41wow, im new to this, how do i do that07:30
danielbellyou can use fluxbox as a window manager and still have gnome running?07:31
speelno07:31
danielbelldamn coz i like that shading feature07:31
AegirWhat? Window roll up? Coz thats in Gnome aswell07:32
speelopen a console and make sure your in your home dir then type gedit .xinitrc then add exec /usr/bin/fluxbox close it save it then hit ctrl alt f1 then login again then type killall gdm then type startx07:32
kreigerMm07:32
kreigeranybody know what folder i have to add gnome window borders to?07:33
crimsundanielbell: sure you can.07:33
crimsundanielbell: just change the default wm key in gconf07:33
speelthen to get rid of flux you hit alt ctrl f1 or alt ctrl backspace i forgot then you rype rm .xinitrc then startx :)07:33
danielbellnevermind i found the rollup feature in gnome07:34
danielbelli couldnt find it im used to it being called shading07:34
danielbellcool :)07:35
kreigerhow does one switch the default window manager?07:35
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crimsunkreiger: use the configuration editor07:35
kreigermm. how compatible is xfce with ubuntu warty?07:36
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Dreamer3anyone know how to copy something from wine and paste into X?07:36
crimsunkreiger: xfwm4 works well as a window manager with gnome, but there's a less-than-trivial race condition with the session manager07:37
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photoguy41ok so i tried to gedit .xinitrc but it gives me a black dock07:38
photoguy41blank07:39
photoguy41doc07:39
photoguy41is it supposed to have anything in it?07:39
crimsunuse ~/.xsession like I typed above ;-)07:39
crimsunin it, put: exec /usr/bin/fluxbox07:39
kreigerSesson commander?07:40
salti*oops* Hi all. I was just trying to install AllegroCL (I think)...from a previous chat and now I'm getting a weird error in terminal.07:40
kreigersorry, sesson manager?07:41
photoguy41GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:07:41
photoguy41Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.07:41
speelphotoguy what are you trying to do? run flux?07:42
crimsunkreiger: between gnome-session->gnome-settings-daemon and xfce4-mcs-manager07:42
kreigermm. can you make that into newb terms?07:42
Dreamer3anyone, how can i cut ans paste from a wine app to X?07:42
crimsunkreiger: gnome-session starts a program that conflicts with one that xfwm4 depends on07:44
photoguy41yes, im just trying to run flux insted of metacity07:44
speelyou have to kill gnome in order to run flux07:44
speelopen a console and make sure your in your home dir then type gedit .xinitrc then add exec /usr/bin/fluxbox close it save it then hit ctrl alt f1 then login again then type killall gdm then type startx07:44
crimsun(you can run gnome perfectly fine with fluxbox as the wm)07:44
kreigerCrimsun, so gnome-session will crash xfce if i do something specific? For example, in mandrake, i had enlightenment loaded, and when ever i would load file manager, nautilus would kill enlightenment07:45
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snowblinkhmmm, okay I've found the Debian bug# which makes building mod_jk difficult on Warty. Apparently fixed in Apache 2.0.51-1...07:46
snowblinkCan I grab the Hoary package (assuming it's at least 2.0.51-1) with no ill effects?07:48
stuNNedcrimsun: ever use openbox?07:48
speeland if you dont know what your doing in gnome dont use flux07:49
crimsunstuNNed: for a long time, openbox2 - then openbox3 - were my preferred wms07:49
kreigerheh07:49
crimsunkreiger: no, they won't crash. one of them will just spit out error messages.07:50
kreigercrimsun, on a constant basis?07:50
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photoguy41ok well i did what you said but it didnt load flux07:50
kreiger<speel> and if you dont know what your doing in gnome dont use flux07:51
stuNNedcrimsun: using metacity now?07:51
crimsunkreiger: no; it's a race condition, and it's not pinnable.07:51
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crimsunstuNNed: no, I'm at work, so I'm technically using whatever XP uses.07:51
speelwhat error did it give you in the terminal photoguy07:51
photoguy41it didnt, it just loaded metacity again07:52
kreigerWell, i'm looking for a lighter window manager than gnome07:52
stuNNedcrimsun: on your ubuntu box i meant07:52
speelyou sure you made .xinitrc?07:52
photoguy41when you said home dir did you me /home or /07:52
speel/home/user07:52
kreigerlol07:52
speelor whatever user name your on07:52
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photoguy41ok07:52
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photoguy41sorry guys07:52
speelits cool ;)07:53
K-otiKhey has anyone tried installiing kismet on ubuntu?07:53
K-otiKso you got it to work?07:53
K-otiKhey speel you got it to work?07:53
crimsunphotoguy41: installing fluxbox via apt-get/aptitude/synaptic adds a session entry to gdm, the graphical login07:53
atai'm having opengl problems. everything that uses opengl just seg faults on me07:54
photoguy41so i should just be able to log into it07:54
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crimsunphotoguy41: all you have to do is select Fluxbox in the Session menu07:54
K-otiKspeel you there?07:54
photoguy41oh well, that should be easy enough!07:54
speelo nah never tryed it07:54
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photoguy41ha07:54
photoguy41brb07:54
K-otiKdamn, has anyone else? ever tryed installing kismet on ubuntu07:54
K-otiK?07:54
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crimsunstuNNed: for my main user - yes - although I use a variety of wms for different users07:55
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speelgot it?07:56
danielbellthis nvu thingy installed to my home dir, id like to have it installed properly, but there's no INSTALL or readme or anything07:57
danielbellwhat should i do07:57
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Ronan151cool, thanks guys!07:59
K-otiKanyone here use kismet07:59
K-otiK?07:59
photoguy41THANKS ALOT!08:00
photoguy41that worked well08:00
speel:) np08:01
photoguy41wow, linux is sweet, i wasnt aware that i could load multipul desktops08:02
OrangeSliceonly in gnome ;)08:02
photoguy41oh08:02
K-otiKis there a way in ubuntu to install drivers trhougha gui?08:03
K-otiK?08:04
crimsunK-otiK: depends on the driver. Generally, the drivers are already installed.08:04
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dale_gribblehey guys08:05
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dale_gribbleis there a way to install grub to a floppy during the installation?  i don't see an option for it08:06
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atadale: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/howto/Randy%20Magee08:07
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dale_gribblethanks ata i'll check it out now08:08
dale_gribbleyeah i need to make it before reboot on install, i'm dual booting and its just booting straight to xp08:09
OrangeSliceremove xp08:09
ataah... evil xp.08:09
dale_gribblei know, i have 3 other boxes running debian :D  this one is for games and unfortunately i'm not sure how well my games will run on linux yet08:10
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dale_gribblei can pull up a shell during install, but nothing is setup yet08:11
OrangeSliceMicrosoft Windows XP Home Edition with all vendor patches installed and all vendor workarounds applied, is currently affected by one or more Secunia advisories rated Highly critical08:11
OrangeSlice:O08:11
OrangeSlicelol08:11
dale_gribblehaha surprise surprise ;D08:11
OrangeSliceThe Secunia database currently contains 0 Secunia advisories marked as "Unpatched", which affects Ubuntu Linux 4.10.08:11
OrangeSliceCurrently, 0 out of 25 Secunia advisories, is marked as "Unpatched" in the Secunia database.08:11
dale_gribbledid you read the ms vs linux interview on slashdot08:12
photoguy41so how do i close a seperate desktop08:12
dale_gribblew/ the ms exec08:12
OrangeSliceubuntu wins!08:12
kreigermm08:12
photoguy41like i dont want alt+ctrl+F8 working anymore08:12
dale_gribblehe claimed running broken code on ie made it better than firefox08:12
OrangeSliceheh, I saw that08:12
kreigerhow do you delete something and it's dependencies?08:12
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crimsunkreiger: sudo aptitude purge something08:13
crimsunkreiger: or purge the dependency08:13
kreigercause the apt-get version of xfce was 2.808:13
kreigeri mean 3.808:13
jovianhow do i add a screen resolution to the ones that were auto detected ? I have edited the XF86Config file but the option didn't appear in the menu08:13
kreigerthe latest version is 4.208:13
ellshas anyone heard about this supposed Firefox killer.....IE7. What a joke08:13
joviani can't seem to find a faq or how to for it either08:13
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crimsunkreiger: 3.8? warty includes 4.0.508:14
atajovian: dpkg-reconfigure xsercer-xfree8608:14
kreiger....08:14
ataxserver, not xsercer08:14
dale_gribbleyeah they were originally putting ie7 off til longhorn08:14
jovianhehe thanks ata08:14
kreigerthen why did i have to apt-get at all?08:14
ellsyeah dale, I just read it on cnet.com08:14
crimsunkreiger: I don't know - why did you want to?08:14
ellsthere 400 or so posts, all disputing the author08:15
kreigeri didn't know i didn't have to.08:15
crimsunkreiger: it's highly recommended that you _do_ apt-get it08:15
crimsunkreiger: or use a package manager to install the version in 'universe'08:15
crimsun[4.0.5] 08:15
kreigerhm08:15
kreigerlemme show you something08:15
kreigerwhat's that cut and paste website?08:15
kreigerto cut down on spam08:16
crimsunhttp://pastebin.ca08:16
kreigerhttp://pastebin.ca/616008:17
crimsunkreiger: that's a metapackage08:17
kreigerwhich means was?08:18
crimsunwhich means you wanted 'xfce4' instead08:18
kreigerOh.08:18
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photoguy41how do i kill one of my alt+ctrl+F*'s?08:18
kreigerso i should sudo aptitude purge xfce ?08:18
crimsunphotoguy41: sorry, don't know what you mean.08:19
crimsunkreiger: not necessary, just install 'xfce4'08:19
dale_gribblesweet found a workaround for my issue...not used to newer mobos, messed w/ the bios to have the new drive setup as the first so i just booted straight into it08:19
dale_gribblehave a good one guys08:19
crimsun'bye08:19
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photoguy41i have 2 desktops open, one on F7 and one on F808:19
crimsunphotoguy41: use ctrl+alt+F# to switch between them, then simply log out of the one you want to quit08:20
jovianata, didn't work it didn't let me add new screen resolutions08:20
ataphotoguy41: take a look at /etc/inittab08:20
kreigerok, i apt-got the right stuff08:20
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kreigernow how do i install this bad boy?08:20
atajovian: well, you could edit the XF86Config-4 and add it manually08:22
jovianI did do that still didn't show up in the options08:22
crimsunkreiger: eh? No need to "install it" if you've installed 'xfce4'.08:23
kreigeryeah, sorry, i'm doing 8 things at once08:23
joviani edited the /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file08:23
kreigerhow do i set it for default load?08:23
crimsunkreiger: just log in choosing the "XFce session" in the graphical log in (under Session)08:23
kreigerahh08:23
kreigerdanke08:23
kreigerbrb guys08:23
crimsunbitte08:23
speelerrr dont you just add exec /usr/bin/xfce in .xinitrc??08:25
speel0.008:25
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kreigerMm08:25
kreigeri like this08:25
kreigeri like this alot, actually08:25
crimsunspeel: ~/.xsession is preferred.08:26
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Children_of_War (Sure siniri bitti ve kilitlendi)08:26
speelah ok ;P08:26
Children_of_WarTO DONATION CHILDREN OF WAR IN IRAQ PLEASE VISIT http://www.warchildren.cjb.net/08:27
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speel...08:27
speelspammers need to go back to there holes08:27
crimsunlovely.08:28
rubixXxnight all08:29
crimsun'ni08:30
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jovianso can anyone tell me how to get gimp to see screen resolutions not detected automatically08:36
jovianI have already edited the /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file08:36
kreigerright about now, i wish my windows boot worked so i could play cs:s08:39
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Coscohello , i have a question .. i need a file ..libapache-mod-php4 , and i cand find it with synaptic .. it finds only lipapache2-mod-php408:42
Coscowhat must i do?08:43
ataanyone using hoary here? is it stable enough to use yet?08:48
Phusionyes08:48
PhusionI'm using it now08:48
LorchaosCosco:  http://higgs.djpig.de/ubuntu/www/ have pretty much every packages08:48
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ataphusion: is it comperable to sid or to sarge?08:48
Phusionyou know, to tell yah the truth this is my first ubuntu install08:49
ataah08:49
Phusionits going quite well.08:49
Coscook ,. let me se08:49
Coscoee08:49
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CoscoLorchaos, it doesnt have what im searching for08:51
Coscoand without that php on ubuntu it doesnt work08:51
Lorchaoshttp://higgs.djpig.de/ubuntu/www/hoary/web/libapache-mod-php408:52
Lorchaoshoary version08:52
Coscowhat are amd64,i386(i have 686 i think),ia64,powep ?08:53
Coscopowerpc*08:53
Lorchaoswhats your processor?08:54
Cosco3000+ athlon barton08:54
kreiger386 is what you want08:55
Lorchaosyep08:55
Coscook08:55
kreigerthen you can download a specialized kernel for amd xp's08:55
kreigerthe x7, right lorchaos?08:55
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Coscohow i install it if its .deb ?08:55
crimsun(-k7)08:55
Coscoapt-install file?08:56
kreigerm08:56
kreigerthanks crimsun08:56
Lorchaosi386 works fine08:56
kreigerum.08:56
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Coscoso?08:56
Lorchaosdownload the package08:56
Coscoready08:56
Coscohow do i install it?08:56
Lorchaossudo dpkg -i package_name08:57
Coscook08:57
Coscothanks08:57
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MyNameIsChrisHello, does anyone know how long it takes for CDs ordered from shipit to reach Australia?08:57
Coscowtf , sudo doesnt work08:58
Lorchaoshuh?08:58
Lorchaosdo you have a root user?08:58
MyNameIsChrisIs your sudoers file setup?08:58
MyNameIsChrisI really shouldn't give advice on a distro I haven't touched08:58
tweekhello08:58
kreigerlol08:58
kreigerMyNameIsChris, i think ive seen you in another distro room08:58
kreigermaybe #mandrake?08:59
MyNameIsChrisNo08:59
MyNameIsChrisfedora08:59
tweekcan someone help me with a printer error?08:59
kreigeryeah08:59
MyNameIsChrisNo one's ever ordered CDs to Australia?09:00
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tweeki have a lexmark x515 and theres a driver for x51 so i assumed that was it, but it doesnt =\09:00
OrangeSliceahh lexmark09:01
tweek-x +z09:01
OrangeSliceI never did get my z23 to work on linux :p09:01
tweek:(09:01
tweekits very important i get it working or i have to go back to windows :(09:01
MyNameIsChrisGet a datasheet from Lexmark, make your own drivers09:02
tweek=\09:02
kreigerhm09:02
OrangeSliceyou didn't calculate in the laziness factor09:02
kreigerAnybody here proficient in dual-booting windows and linux?09:02
kreigerspecifically, windows and ubuntu09:03
tweekorangeslices, i have no idea how to make my own driver :(09:03
OrangeSliceI never dual booted :D  deleted windows, installed ubuntu, never looked back.09:03
kreigerWell, i want my cs:s09:03
tweekwine09:03
tweek:P09:03
crimsunthere's always wine{x}09:03
kreigerdoes it WORK?09:03
MyNameIsChrisI dual boot Windows and FC. Come to think of it, it has been a while since I used Windows09:03
tweekkreiger09:03
OrangeSlicewindows is obsolete09:03
tweekdo you have an amd or intel?09:03
kreigeramd09:03
kreigerxp09:04
tweek64?09:04
crimsunsteam works through cedega, but I can't offer any suggestions. Check #cedega.09:04
kreigerno09:04
tweeko ok09:04
kreigeri wish09:04
tweekno you dont09:04
kreiger2400+09:04
tweeki do and wine doesnt work09:04
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abellihello there, does someone know how i can play .mpc?09:05
OrangeSlicewith the musepack decoder?09:05
OrangeSliceor the xmms plugin, or foobar200009:05
OrangeSliceor quod libet09:05
OrangeSlicewhom I convinced to support mpc :p09:05
abellixmms plugin?09:06
OrangeSlicexmms-musepack09:06
crimsunthere's an xmms plugin09:06
kreigeranybody know what distro and or wM this is?09:06
crimsunI don't remember offhand if the gst plugin is finished09:06
kreigerhttp://transgaming.org/gamesdb/screenshots/single.mhtml?screenshot_id=57909:06
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OrangeSlicegstreamer-plugins 0.8 supports it09:06
red-nixwhat is a good gui ftp client for ubuntu?09:06
OrangeSlicegftp09:06
abellipoint to play ? what is it?09:07
crimsunpersonally, mppdec -> aplay works for me09:07
OrangeSlicefoobar2000 :D09:07
crimsunyeah, well, you know what they say about fb2k and Linux.09:07
crimsunX Window System, for that matter09:07
OrangeSliceworks fine under cedega09:08
OrangeSlicewell, the encoding features don't09:08
ruinaHi.. I have an issue with locales ... the apt-get doesnt working09:08
abelliOrangeSlice: i have not xmms-musepack09:08
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abelliOrangeSlice: am i broken?09:08
OrangeSliceyes09:08
OrangeSlicewww.musepack.net09:08
crimsunno, it's not broken.09:08
crimsunplease don't tell him his install is broken.09:08
abellicrimsun: why?09:09
OrangeSlicelack of musepack = broken :)09:09
ruinaI need help09:09
billytwowillyI upgraded hoary a couple days ago and now my laptop hard drive spins down too much causing momentary hangs. how do I fix this?09:09
crimsunabelli: because it's not provided in any ubuntu-referenced repository, and the implication that something is "broken" is that it doesn't work as intended by default, (e.g. the configuration is broken)09:10
OrangeSliceabelli:  add these lines to your /etc/apt/sources.list09:10
abelliabsolutely, i just said "am i broken"..09:10
OrangeSlicedeb http://rarewares.org/debian/packages/unstable/ ./09:10
OrangeSlicedeb http://rarewares.org/debian/packages/stable/ ./09:10
ruinaI have a problem with locales ... the apt-get doesnt working09:10
OrangeSlicerun update, and install xmms-musepack09:10
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abellimeaning is my self in person broken?09:10
red-nixok thanks didn't see the comment on gftp09:10
crimsun(be very careful with rarewares)09:10
snowblinkkreiger: looks like kde09:11
OrangeSliceor compile the plugin's source from musepack.net09:11
OrangeSlicenever had any problems with rarewares ;)09:11
OrangeSlicebest audio-related repository out there09:11
abelliOrangeSlice: ogg vs mpc: differences?09:11
ompaulruina, to fix apt-get09:11
OrangeSlicempc is almost lossless in quality09:11
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ompaulruina, you need to edit /etc/apt/sources.list09:12
crimsunexcept when they decided to make flac and ogg/vorbis packages that broke things in the sarge/sid/<Debian-based distro> transitions.09:12
abelliOrangeSlice: why aint it included in ubuntu?09:12
OrangeSliceubuntu doesn't have much in the way of audio09:12
crimsunabelli: (no one has asked for it to be included?)09:12
abellicrimsun: operating systems09:13
crimsunabelli: against which ogg are you comparing musepack, ogg vorbis? ogg flac?09:13
abelliin this era, are mainly meant as multimedia09:13
abellioperating systems09:13
abelli..so... get your conclusions09:13
OrangeSliceoggflac is just flac wrapped in an ogg container09:13
crimsunabelli: please ask for it to be included, and I'll take a look at it.09:13
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crimsunhoary+1 is a great target09:14
abelliis it packaged for debian?09:14
crimsunOrangeSlice: yes, the assumption is that vorbis is the target09:14
ompaulcrimsun, hoary+1 is that array 5?09:14
crimsunompaul: no, "hoary+1" is the release following hoary09:14
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crimsunompaul: "array 5" is the 5th milestone toward "hoary"09:15
abelliso why not making ogg mpc?909:15
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ompaulso 4 back?09:15
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ruinaompaul, hummm... let me see09:15
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photoguy41how do you run nmap GUI09:15
crimsunphotoguy41: nmapfe09:15
snowblinkI thought hoary+1 had an animal assigned already09:16
crimsunompaul: "hoary" == "warty+1"09:16
ompaulcrimsun, got it09:16
ompaulcrimsun, thank you09:16
crimsunsnowblink: no, tentatively - and the only thing that's certain is that it will always be valid to refer to it as "Hoary+1"09:16
photoguy41its not working09:16
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abellicrimsun: is mpc in debian?09:16
photoguy41nm09:17
crimsunabelli: no.09:17
abellicrimsun: is there any kind of reason?09:17
abellicrimsun: is it needed?09:17
ruinaompaul,  en.ISO-8859-1...cannot open locale definition file `en': No such file or directory09:17
ompaulruina, so have you fixed apt-get ?09:17
crimsunabelli: I'm not aware of a reason why it's not in Debian proper, but as part of MOTU, we can work to get it into universe.09:18
ruinaompaul, yeap09:18
crimsunruina: en is invalid09:18
abellicrimsun: what if i try to package it for debian?09:19
crimsunabelli: it's already packaged, but it has not been accepted into Debian proper.09:19
abellimmm.. yeah...09:19
abelliok09:19
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photoguy41is quanta free?09:19
ompaulruina, why not click on the keyboard options in system and choose the one you want "en" has several options :)09:19
rainfire5anyone here using blackbox?09:19
ruinacrimsun, how to configure locales?09:20
abelli..as long as it is in rare*... it must be.. i meant if it needed a mantainer..09:20
crimsunabelli: check ITP and WNP09:20
crimsunruina: sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales09:20
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ruinacrimsun, locales is broken or not fully installed09:21
crimsunruina: use the space bar to select the correct "en_foo ISO-8859-1", then press TAB and then ENTER09:21
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ompaulruina, apt-get install locales09:22
crimsunruina: pass --reinstall to apt-get install locales09:22
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ompaulhmm there are lots, but I think I should have asked about linux as well :)09:25
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ruinaompaul and crimsun, I found the problem in /etc/locales.gen ... the row en.ISO-8859-109:28
crimsunruina: yes. Unfortunately, manually editing isn't the recommended method of resolving that issue.09:29
rainfire5can anyone comment on their experiences with blackbox vs. fluxbox?09:30
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crimsunrainfire5: they're both considerably slimmer than certain desktop environments, but it all comes down to preference.09:30
rainfire5crimsun: do you use either?09:31
crimsunrainfire5: in the past, I've used many of the blackbox derivatives.09:31
rainfire5crimsun: and currently you use? if i may ask?09:32
crimsunrainfire5: I use a variety of window managers and desktop environments.09:33
rainfire5crimsun: no favorite lightweight one?09:33
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crimsunrainfire5: not really. Depends on the workload, I suppose.09:34
rainfire5crimsun ok thanks (= tga it is a laptop09:34
tgaI like ion because it's more keyboard oriented than most wms09:35
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ruinaompaul crimsun thanks a lot! I am sleeping now!09:36
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crimsun'ni09:36
ompaulruina enjoy09:36
rainfire5tga thanks for the tip; i'll go try it... also, to add various wms to my session chooser I just add lines to ~/.session right?  for some reason blackbox always calls itself "default desktop manager" whereas others actually appear in the list09:36
crimsunrainfire5: ~/.xsession09:37
tgarainfire5: ion should just show up in your gdm session list09:37
tga.xsession is the 'default wm'09:37
Echyloheey, question, I use the commandline recordeing tool Burn, but it seems that it doesn't knows what my cd-writer is, anyone a idea?09:37
crimsunand yes, choose the window manager/desktop environment in the Session choice09:37
tgaafaik enlightenment is the only one that doesn't show up in gdm's list09:37
ompaultga do you really want to run enlightment ? ;-)09:38
tgaheh, I give it a try every now and then09:38
tgait usually lasts a few minutes09:38
ompaultga,  as I said09:38
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rainfire5ok night all thanks for the help (= #ubuntu makes my life simpler09:40
Echylo:D09:40
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FASTare there free audio programs that i can play with to make sound effects, and record sound clips of the effects, and stuff like that?09:41
Echyloanyone knows what yahtzee means in gnome tali09:41
Echyloand what is full house09:41
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HGHi09:41
Echyloit's the game with the dices09:41
Echylo:p09:41
ompaulmy dsl provider must have finally figured out that you need to provide a meter for people to stay within the limits that the call a cap09:42
HGI am having a freaking problem each time a start gnome the panel starts loading and my computer freezes09:42
HGctrl+alt+f1 doesn't work09:42
HGi reboot 6 times09:42
Echylohmm09:43
EchyloI don't think the amount of reboots will solve the problem09:43
Echyloeuhm09:43
HGdaniels: thx for unbanning me :) but you never /msg me like you said09:43
HGEchylo: lol09:44
crimsunHG: warty? hoary?09:44
HGi deleted ~/.gnome*09:44
HGcrimsun: hoary09:44
Echyloyou updated?09:44
ompaulEchylo, the yahtzee is if you get all the dice the same so 5 1's or 2's etc09:44
crimsunHG: when was the last time you synced against pool?09:44
HGlast night09:44
Echyloompaul, and fullhouse?09:44
Echylo:p09:44
Echylothanks btw09:44
HGi am using kernel 2.6.1109:45
ompaulEchylo, 2 of one type and 3 of another09:45
Echylook thanks :)09:45
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AegirFinally, 171 of 177 packages downloaded...09:45
AegirDarn update system =D09:45
HGAegir: and the last 6 are big or small?09:46
rkanyone know how can I add entries to the applications menu in gnome 2.9.x?09:46
crimsunHG: linux-image-$(uname -r)  => ?09:46
AegirHG: No idea09:46
HGcrimsun: i am a irssi noob09:46
AegirIm on ADSL so Im not worrying09:46
crimsunHG: uname -r09:46
HGok09:46
HG2.6.11-1-68609:46
crimsunHG: 2.6.11 has not been updated with the inotify revert09:47
HGbut i had the same problem last when i booted but after i reboot again it worked09:47
HGcrimsun: back to 2.6.10?09:48
crimsunHG: please use linux-image-68609:49
oz_rk: on the ubuntuguide.org site it says by running "nautilus applications:///System" etc. but i've had no luck (using hoary)09:49
crimsunHG: (2.6.10-4, or 2.6.10-3-686)09:49
HGcrimsun: 2.6.11 is very importaint it should be come the default in hoary ASAP as it includes some importaint drivers09:49
rkoz_: yeah, tried that already, it doesn't work anymore09:49
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HGcrimsun: my friend got a new computer yesterday and needs kernel 2.6.11 for his hardware09:50
HGcrimsun: rebooting09:50
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oz_rk: I've hunted on and off for an hour or so with no luck... let me know if you work it out :)09:50
rkoz_: willd o09:50
arc_the default icons of gnome had been broken on my last upgrade (warty)09:50
rkerr will do09:50
arc_oops09:50
arc_nope, hoary09:51
oz_rk: I think it is supposed to be an xml file in you home dir...09:51
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rkoz_: ick, isn't GNOME supposed to be easy :)09:52
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krismwhat09:52
sys2rk, it is?09:52
krismwhat's all this talk about 2.6.11?09:52
sys2atleast its not a chaos like kde09:53
sys2kreiger, what talk ?09:53
oz_rk: i've just changed from a fedora install using kde so i'm not the best person - though it takes a little getting used to.09:53
krismoh, hg was talking about it sys209:53
biomichey all - using an ibook atm and wanting to partition (dw about data) to install ubuntu .. what programs should i use to do this :s ?09:53
krismincidentally, why does -hoary have 2.6.11? latest on kernel.org is 2.6.1009:53
kreigerwhat?09:54
rksys2: but something simple as adding an entry to the desktop, and I can't find an answer09:54
sys2rk, right click ... make a selection in the menu ... do it! :P09:54
rksys2: yeah, thanks, doesn't work :P09:55
sys2humm09:55
rkusing 2.9.x here09:55
krismrk: 2.9 is beta09:55
krismrk: stuff might be / probably is broken :/09:55
oz_krism: yeah - I found out - I'm bleeding 8(09:56
rkkrism: doubt it, this is probably hidden somewhere09:57
ompaulyesterday I was adding a member to the ubuntu linux user family - today I bring them the gift of serial modem world09:57
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ompaulsys2, use it for whatever amd chip you have :)09:58
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Panzerboymorning10:00
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oz_is there a "service manager" hidden away somewhere to start stop eg mysql?10:01
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HostingGeekcrimsun: i am back in gnome :D10:04
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ogami1972am back from work- hi all10:05
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ogami1972harumph10:07
ogami1972:-X10:07
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ompauloz_ I do not know but something in the back of my mind says mysqladmin stop10:08
ompauloz_ YMMV10:08
ompauloz_ sorry I made a mistake with your question10:09
kreigerAnybdoy here use cedega?10:09
markumankreiger, no, but whats your problem?10:10
oz_ompaul: no problem - I've got to install it yet anyways..10:11
BigglezHi - I am having trouble playing a DVD on mplayer, xine or ogle any help?10:12
kreigernothing really, just wondering10:12
kreigeri'm installing cs:s on it and praying to GOD it works10:12
markumancs:s ?10:12
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markumani know only cedegaCVS10:13
snowblinkBigglez: http://ubuntuguide.org/#dvdplayback10:13
Bigglezsnowblink: I read all that - did all that10:13
kreigercounterstrike:source10:13
BigglezOn Xine it plays sound fine, but the picture is garbled.10:13
oz_on hoary I get an error each time i run sysnaptic: 'debconf: unable to initialize frontend: Gnome' though it does install things ok - anyone know what it's about?10:14
BigglezOn Mplayer - it's all blank - you can forward the image but it won't play10:14
BigglezOn Ogle - it's even worse than xine - totally garbled video10:14
snowblinkBigglez: have you enabled dma?10:14
snowblinkBigglez: you get choppy or no picture?10:15
BigglezDMA on my player? I think it's on. Same  player and disk worked 100% in Fedora 110:15
BigglezSnowblink: On Xine I get 50% picture - like it's all fuzzy and chooped with rectangles10:15
BigglezSnowblink: On mplayer it just won't play - I can forward, but it won't play.10:16
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sys2and hot the **** did you make dhcp not work if i may ask ?10:17
sys2works fine in all other distros10:17
sys2but unbunto i dont get an answer in10:17
sys2-o+u10:18
tgasame problem here10:18
tgadhclient won't grab an address10:18
oz_ompaul: mysqd is the daemon to start/stop mysql - though I was more after a general 'services' applet.10:18
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snowblinkBigglez: xine-check, hdparm, video drivers - those are the things I'd check10:19
tgasys2:  I wish you good luck if you're gonna switch distros every time you find a broken package10:19
sys2tga, im looking for a distro i can compile packages for my current distro that is not 64bit in ...10:19
sys2that does not eat 99% of my resources and harddrive space on that :P10:20
Bigglezsnowblink: what about my video drivers? I have tried xv and xvshm and GL - they all do the same: nothing!10:20
tgasys2: debian/ubuntu seems a good choice10:20
Bigglezsnowblink: I am running nvidia driver fine. all other apps work fine.10:20
snowblinkBigglez: is it okay when you look at mpegs or avis?10:21
Bigglezsnowblink: yes10:21
ompauloz_, not that I know of10:22
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Bigglezsnowblink: Could it be something in my XFree86 config file?10:22
snowblinkBigglez: hdparm /dev/<yourdvddrive>10:22
sys2and how does one install a package in this distro then ?10:23
Bigglez HDIO_GET_MULTCOUNT failed: Invalid argument10:24
Bigglez IO_support   =  1 (32-bit)10:24
Bigglez unmaskirq    =  1 (on)10:24
Bigglez using_dma    =  1 (on)10:24
Bigglez keepsettings =  0 (off)10:24
Bigglez readonly     =  0 (off)10:24
Bigglez readahead    = 256 (on)10:24
Bigglez HDIO_GETGEO failed: Invalid argument10:24
oz_ompaul: you may have been right about mysqladmin - mysqld left things in a but of a mess...10:24
Bigglez(sorry don't know if that was rude!)10:24
snowblinkBigglez: yes - you should use pastebin10:24
Bigglezsorry - ouch.10:24
snowblinkBigglez: that looks okay10:25
BigglezI'm using x-chat - can't find a "pastebin" anywhere.10:26
Bigglezsnowblink: This drive worked under Fedora Core - so I thought it would be fine10:26
snowblinkBigglez: are you running warty or hoary?10:26
Bigglezsnow: the first one - warty I think10:27
snowblinkBigglez: www.pastebin.com10:27
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Bigglezsnowblink: I have installed KDE and am using that. Could that have stuffed something?10:27
snowblinkBigglez: Ah. Have you tried under GNOME?10:27
BigglezActually yes10:28
BigglezI opened a second X server on ctrl-alt-f8 and tried there10:28
Bigglezno go10:28
snowblinkBigglez: What's the load on your system when you try to watch DVDs?10:28
Bigglezbrb10:29
Bigglezsnowblink:+1 20%10:29
Bigglezabout 20%10:29
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Bigglezxine = 20 to 30%10:30
Bigglezsnowblink: so the load is not bad.10:30
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snowblinkBigglez: I would guess at your driver, but I use ATI I'm afraid10:32
Bigglezsnowblink: hmmm. I had same card (maybe same driver?) on Fedora - all worked fine!10:33
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Bigglezsnowblnik: Thanks for trying to help me! I will try mplayer forum.10:33
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snowblinkBigglez: try again here later - it's early yet10:34
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Bigglezcool10:34
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HostingGeekdaniels: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/ServerTeam/view?searchterm=server10:35
paoloHi guys! I had openoffice printing with cups, but since when I run oopadmin I can't print any more with openoffice. In oopadmin I can't change the printer settings. Is this a known issue? Any hint?10:35
HostingGeekdaniels: i am Gmail though you knew lilo made me swap my nick10:36
HostingGeeksorry10:36
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Panzerboyany hoary users around?10:38
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tgaPanzerboy: a few :)10:39
Panzerboytga: :)10:39
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red-nixanyone here ever use tor?10:45
Echylorent?10:45
ompaulPanzerboy, well to judge by bittorrent the answer is yes10:45
bob2the anonymiser?10:45
red-nixyeah10:46
bob2less people than used to, since it got k-lined10:46
Panzerboyompaul: :)10:46
Panzerboyi have some issues with ctrl+alt+backspace10:46
Echyloit reboots your x-server ?10:46
Echyloor is that the issue?10:46
Panzerboyno man, that is the issue, that it doesn't :P10:47
red-nixwell i was just wondering how you set it up i installed it but it keeps saying uid (112) doesn't own /var/lib/tor10:47
Echylo:D10:47
Panzerboyit just drops me in a terminal10:47
ompaulwoops have to start another box biab10:47
Echyloand it doesn't reboot?10:47
Echylohmm10:47
red-nixi chowned it to my username but that didn't help10:47
Echylowarthy? hoary?10:47
red-nixwho you talking to me?10:48
PanzerboyEchylo: hoary10:48
Panzerboyred-nix: nope, with me, i guess :)10:48
Echylooow10:48
Echylothat explains alot10:48
Echylo:p10:48
Panzerboyyeah10:48
Echylobut I won't know any solution10:48
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spiralhi10:51
patrick_goodmorning to you all10:51
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oz_Echylo: must be a boog - I've the same problem on hoary - you can 'startx' to get back..10:54
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jonofabbione, ping10:54
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oz_anyone know where the hoary w32codecs live apt?10:55
bob2same as the warty ones10:56
bob2marillat's archive10:56
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oz_bob2: that would be:  'deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ stable main'  ?10:58
bob2meh10:58
bob2probably10:58
bob2but other stuff will get confused then10:58
monoxidei have 2 questions.10:58
monoxidei just finished downloading the updates to hoary today and some of my programs have decided to kill themselves.10:59
monoxidei have found 2 so far that wont start at all10:59
bob2file bugs if no one else has10:59
monoxidewhat should i put in it? the only thing it displays is that there was segmentation fault for both of them11:00
monoxidei think its something to do with OSS11:00
bob2I doubt that11:00
monoxidewell i may be wrong11:01
FASTdoes anyone know anything about the JACK audio server?11:02
FASTspecifically how to get it running11:02
monoxidewhere/how do i dubmit a bug?11:02
nanomadregister in bugzilla under ubuntulinux.org11:03
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nanomadmonoxide: wich bugs have u discovered?11:04
monoxidei cant seem to get XMMS or wine to start up at all under hoary11:04
xoxoxohello. anybody please point me to a documetation that shows how to recompile kernel on ubuntu?11:05
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monoxidepossibly other apps that i havnt found11:05
hyglmonoxide: habe you straced the apps to find out why?11:05
monoxideprobably just a misconfiguration somewhere, but buggered if i have any idea where to look11:05
bob2xoxoxo: why do you want to recompile it?11:05
nanomadwell. they both work for me11:05
Panzerboyxoxoxo: https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/KernelHowto11:05
monoxidepardon hygl?11:06
Panzerboymonoxide: strace xmms11:06
nanomadmonoxide: have u configured right xmms?11:06
monoxideyes, i know that they should work.11:06
Panzerboyit should show you a trace11:06
hyglmonoxide: have you used strace to find out, why xmms crashes11:06
Panzerboyhow do i get rid of the Exchange button in evo?"11:06
monoxidexmms was working beautifully under warty11:06
thuxHi I have hoary array-5 amd64 with nvidia-glx-dev, problem is that I don't see picture when I use totem-xine or vlc and try wartch mpg?11:07
xoxoxoPanzerboy: thank you a lot11:07
thuxwatch mpg :)11:07
monoxidewow.... that just output a HEAP of stuff...11:07
nanomadthux: what??11:07
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thuxdont' see picture with vlc or totem-xine11:08
monoxideshould i post the last few lines here or what?11:08
monoxidehmmm... i think its something with how i have xorg configured...11:09
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bob2I don't think it's possible for X to be configured such that it crashes programs.11:11
bob2unless they're terribly buggy to begin with.11:11
Panzerboyany idea if the default kernel in hoary has support for LDM ?11:11
Panzerboythat is support for windows dynamic disks11:11
monoxidewhat if it wasnt loading a module that the program needed?11:11
bob2then the program should say "EXTENSION BLAH NOT FOUND OMG EXITING"11:12
monoxidelike GLCore?11:12
bob2indeedy11:12
monoxidewhich is being loaded...11:12
monoxidewell, what do i do with this strace? from what i can see there are a few librarys that it is looking for and not finding11:13
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monoxideor maybe it is...11:14
Nem[Laptop] whats array 4?11:15
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bob2Nem[Laptop] : 4th hoary test cd11:15
Nem[Laptop] bob2: how many tests are there11:15
bob2ompaul: apt-get isn't meant as an end-user tool11:15
bob2Nem[Laptop] : one a fortnight, iirc up until preview11:16
monoxide5 so far?11:16
monoxidebob2: i use it. but maybe im just stupid11:16
bob25 is the latest, yes.11:16
bob2monoxide: ok11:16
ompaulbob2, never thought of it like that11:16
Nem[Laptop] bob2: "rc" just didnt cut it? ;)11:16
ompaulbob2, as in always thought of it as one11:16
bob2Nem[Laptop] : array is more fun!11:17
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monoxideok... mplayer cant play the sound stream either...11:18
monoxidei think there is something screwy with my sound server config or something11:18
monoxideany ideas anyone?11:19
Nem[Laptop] does xmms work? lol11:20
monoxideno11:20
monoxidethats the original problem11:20
Nem[Laptop] mpg123?11:20
monoxideneither XMMS or wine will run at all11:20
Nem[Laptop] simple test.... `cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp`  [CTRL+C to stop] 11:20
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Nem[Laptop] you should hear static11:21
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monoxidenothing...11:21
Nem[Laptop] not even an error?11:21
monoxidenope11:21
Nem[Laptop] are your speakers plugged in? :P11:22
monoxideblank console, no sound11:22
maximaushi all11:22
monoxideyes they are cos i get sounds from ubuntu11:22
Nem[Laptop] what are you trying to get it to work under11:22
bob2that won't work if esd is running11:22
monoxideie. gnome etc11:22
Nem[Laptop] bob2: oh.11:22
AmaranthUbuntuBot is still here, cool.11:23
AmaranthI guess that means my PING code works11:23
Nem[Laptop] monoxide: what's xmms configured to use as its output device?11:23
monoxidefairly sure it was OSS11:23
Nem[Laptop] in Preferences there's a section in which you pick the output module/library to use11:23
Nem[Laptop] have you tried picking esd?11:24
maximausa kind soul helped me get my ISA soundcard working yesterday with a couple simple commands--but upon reboot it failed again--of course I had logging turned off on IRC so can't recall the commands to probe the ISA port...anybody fresher than me? :P11:24
monoxidei cant start XMMS11:24
Amaranthyeah, set it to use esd11:24
Nem[Laptop] you can't start xmms?  ..why?11:24
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monoxidematthew@matthew-linux:~ $ xmms11:24
monoxideSegmentation fault11:24
monoxidematthew@matthew-linux:~ $11:24
Amaranth:/11:24
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bob2monoxide: sure your RAM is ok?11:24
monoxidelast time i checked11:24
bob2how did you check?11:25
monoxidewell everything was working :/11:25
monoxidefigure of speach11:25
Neil3hey guys11:25
Neil3what do you think my chances of running ubuntu on a p200mmx with 128mb ram 3gb hd are?11:26
bob2good11:26
bob2but it will be annoyingly slow11:26
Neil3yeah11:26
bob2gnome, anyway11:26
Neil3i'm thinking nt4 workstation or that11:26
Neil3i know nt wont be as slow11:26
monoxidewin98?11:27
Neil3thats whats there now11:27
Neil398se11:27
Nem[Laptop] Amaranth: from what I remember i had something to do with isapnp .... but I haven't toyed with ISA in yeeears.11:27
PanzerboyNeil3: what about you install ubuntu server11:27
PanzerboyNeil3: then xorg11:27
Panzerboythen something light, like xfce411:27
AmaranthNem[Laptop] : I gave up on ISA about 5 years ago.11:27
Nem[Laptop] sawfish! :)11:27
Nem[Laptop] Amaranth: oops, wrong person11:28
maximausNeil, I'm running full blown Gnome on a 300mhz/192 and it's just fine11:28
Nem[Laptop] maximaus: from what I remember i had something to do with isapnp .... but I haven't toyed with ISA in yeeears.11:28
bob2hm, weird.  I find it annoyingly slow on a p3-450 with 320MB of ram.11:28
Neil3hm could do11:29
Neil3this has to host a shoutcast server basically11:29
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bob2then you'll be fine11:29
Neil3and be able to have something like winamp playing on the machine11:29
Neil3so it streams to itself11:29
Nem[Laptop] Neil3: better off running without X completely11:29
Neil3its doing it in win98 no probs11:30
Nem[Laptop] Neil3: mpg123 for playing, icecast to serve11:30
Neil3but its windows 98.......11:30
Neil3ah11:30
Amaranthcan mpg123 stream from icecast?11:30
Amaranthoh, someone already said it11:30
Neil3and the machine has to be dummy proof11:30
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Neil3as its not just me using it11:30
Panzerboylol11:30
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PanzerboyNeil3: then stick to 98 :_11:30
Panzerboy:)11:30
Neil3hehe11:30
Neil3yeah11:30
Neil3i was afraid that might happen11:31
Nem[Laptop] Neil3: ive got Win2000 running on a Celeron 366 just fine, doesnt feel too slow11:31
maximaussudo modprobe sb11:31
maximaussudo dmesg11:31
maximaussudo echo sb >> /etc/modules11:31
Neil3hm11:31
Neil3win2k..11:31
Nem[Laptop] Neil3: runs better than win98 because of better memory management11:31
Neil3but it takes up 1gb of space11:31
Nem[Laptop] Not if you don't install all the games and useless crap11:31
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Neil3even still its huge11:31
maximausthat's what worked yesterday for the ISA card but now I don't have permissions as root even to access /etc/modules. :/11:31
Neil3would like nt4 cos its nice and small11:32
Neil3and i'm not worried about usb or anything11:32
Nem[Laptop] maximaus: use sudo to elevate your privileges11:32
Nem[Laptop] .. wait.. "even as root" ??11:32
Neil3my nt4 cd wont read properly though damnit11:32
maximausyup, wierd11:32
Nem[Laptop] Neil3: NT4 gives me the utter craps ;)11:32
Neil3hehe11:32
maximauscrap, I knew the working ISA card was too good to last a reboot.11:32
Nem[Laptop] i feel like I want to hurt myself under NT411:32
Neil3why's that?11:33
Nem[Laptop] maximaus: whats the exact error when you try to "access" /etc/modules11:33
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Nem[Laptop] bah, irc needs tab completion11:33
TsjoklatTongMaster :)11:33
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maximauseven Playskool Gaim IRC has tab-completion... LOL11:34
Nem[Laptop] maximaus: so I can type /etc/mod[tab]  and it'll complete it? :P11:34
TongMasterheya Tsjoklat11:34
maximausWell that's just a bit darn fancy... :P11:34
Nem[Laptop] or i'm just a bit darn lazy...11:34
alexissoftcoucou11:35
AmaranthNem[Laptop] : Script it up in Python. :)11:35
Nem[Laptop] Amaranth: i'd rather use NT4 (see above) :P11:35
Neil3hahahaha11:35
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AmaranthNem[Laptop] : X-Chat can be scripted with Python, Perl, and something else.11:36
maximausso "modprobe sb" finds my ISA sound card right...11:36
Tsjoklathow is it TongMaster?11:36
Nem[Laptop] Amaranth: I'm running mirc ;)11:36
maximaushow do I get it to do this automatically upon boot?11:36
PanzerboyISA sound cards are so yesterday :)11:36
Tsjoklatany news about your bikey TongMaster?11:36
Nem[Laptop] maximaus: modprobe loads a kernel module11:36
ompaulspike_ ?11:36
Tsjoklatoh wait... pushy11:36
Nem[Laptop] maximaus: `lsmod` lists the loaded modules11:36
Panzerboymaximaus: you have to add that sb thingy to some file11:36
zenroxya /etc/modules11:36
Amaranth/etc/modules11:36
Panzerboythat is automagically read at boot11:36
Panzerboyyeah :)11:37
maximauseek, that's seems too easy11:37
maximausLOL11:37
spike_hi11:37
Panzerboymaximaus: remember, in linux, everything is easy :)11:37
Nem[Laptop] Panzerboy: *choke*11:37
Panzerboyor at least it seems11:37
Panzerboyheh11:37
Amaranthsimple things a resimple and hard this are possible11:37
Amaranthare even11:37
Panzerboylol11:37
Amaranthand things11:37
Amaranthwow11:37
bob2well, that's not true11:37
maximausno, with linux at least things are logical--even if it takes glacial weeks to wrap your brain around them...11:37
bob2it'd be good if it was, some day11:37
Panzerboybob2: you are too serious man :P11:38
maximaus:D11:38
Amaranthi suck at 4:30am11:38
Tsjoklatbob2 is a barrel of laughs.. aren't you bob2? :)11:38
TongMastergood Tsjoklat, just ripping a lice Cat Empire CD.11:39
Nem[Laptop] Tsjoklat: more a spiteful individual, full of hate ;)11:39
kreigermmm11:39
kreigercs:s has 10 minutes till downloaded11:39
kreigerlife is sweet11:39
TsjoklatTongMaster, sounds frightning... do I want to know what it is?11:39
maximausso just adding "sd" to the /etc/modules file should do the ISA trick?11:39
TsjoklatNem[Laptop] , if you say so :)11:39
maximaussb rather...11:39
Panzerboymaximaus: dunno, try it11:39
kreigerhey Nem[Laptop] 11:40
Nem[Laptop] Tsjoklat: just ask him about his favourite tv show (andromeda)11:40
Nem[Laptop] kreiger: hey11:40
Panzerboymaximaus: it should though11:40
zenroxmaximaus, yes it will11:40
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kreigerNem[Laptop] , my shit is slowly pulling together, thanks for the help before.11:40
maximausgroovy--I'll do a reboot ala windows and check back in in a minute.11:40
Panzerboylet's see now if i can access those stupid dynamic volumes11:40
maximausCiao11:40
TsjoklatNem[Laptop] , I'll wait for him to start talking about it11:40
TongMasterTsjoklat, bought a new one.11:40
TongMasterTsjoklat, s/lice/live/11:41
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TongMaster:)11:41
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Nem[Laptop] kreiger: dont even recall helping you... but happy to take the cred ;)11:41
TsjoklatTongMaster :) missed you around11:41
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kreigermm11:41
kreigeryer right. it was nermal11:41
kreigerlol11:41
kreigerwell, thank you for NOT helping then.11:41
kreigerbastard11:41
Nem[Laptop] hahaha11:41
TongMasterthanks Tsjoklat :)11:42
TsjoklatTongMaster :)11:42
monoxidefrom my XMMS config file: output_plugin=/usr/lib/xmms/Output/libALSA.so11:43
Nem[Laptop] monoxide: have you tried stracing xmms to see why its dieing?11:43
monoxidewhat should i change it to?11:43
monoxidei have straced it, but no idea where to look in that strace11:43
Nem[Laptop] around the part where it dies?11:44
monoxideyea, well... i know that much, but i dont know what to look for11:44
Nem[Laptop] paste last 10-15 lines in #flood11:44
sebastianhi is there anybody here who can help me with tetex?11:44
Nem[Laptop] *shudder*11:45
TsjoklatI like Latex11:46
sebastianMe to, but I have a little question.11:47
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sebastianWhat's the right way to install a package to tetex?11:47
Tsjoklatsorry sebastian my mind went wandering... can't help you with that.. know nada zilch zip about tetex. sorry11:47
Nem[Laptop] tetex-bn, i think11:47
sebastianI want to install a style for bibtex11:48
Nem[Laptop] er,  tetex-bin11:48
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Panzerboymaximaus: so?11:48
Nem[Laptop] maximaus: install a package called 'reportbug'11:48
sebastiani have installed tetex-bin and tetex-extras, but the style dinat is not in this packages11:48
Nem[Laptop] MacPlusG3: then do `reportbug xmms`11:49
maximausAh the annoying rings of Gaim-IRC have never sounded so good--appending "sb" to /etc/modules has indeed permanantly fixed my sound.11:49
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sebastianI have to install it by hand, but don't know how11:49
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Nem[Laptop] er..11:50
Nem[Laptop] maximaus: then do `reportbug xmms`11:50
Nem[Laptop] bah, i think its time to get some sleep.11:50
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maximausNem--- I'm not having an issue with XMMS why should I report a bug?11:51
Nem[Laptop] maximaus: because xmms is crashing11:51
ompaulNem[Laptop] , but it is 11am :)11:51
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PanzerboyNem[Laptop] : not him is having a problem with xmms lol11:51
maximausfunny, I haven't started it yet... LOL11:51
Panzerboybut monoxide11:51
PanzerboyLOL11:51
Nem[Laptop] bah11:51
Nem[Laptop] as i said, i need sleepo11:51
Nem[Laptop] Panzerboy: thanks ;)11:51
maximausNem, which part of the globe are you located?11:51
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Nem[Laptop] monoxide: see above about my crap to maximaus re: reportbug.11:52
Panzerboymaximaus: asl :P11:52
Panzerboymaximaus: pls :P11:52
Tsjoklatthere where they need sleep11:52
Nem[Laptop] maximaus: australia11:52
monoxideim looking at reportbug atm ;)11:52
Nem[Laptop] monoxide: hah, so at least you're more with it than I am ;)11:52
maximausI'm in Sweden.11:52
monoxidebarely, i was about to go sleepy myself11:52
Nem[Laptop] yeah, im gonna hit the hay.11:53
Nem[Laptop] nite all11:53
Nem[Laptop] hope ive caused more good than confusion, lol11:53
maximausSweden, where I've never met a people so enamored of everything MS--despite their socialist/collectivist tendencies. hehe11:53
Xappebah11:53
Xappe<-- also a swede11:54
Panzerboymaximaus: lol11:54
Panzerboywhy is that?11:54
maximausbrainwashing...11:55
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Tsjoklatnothing wrong with Sweden11:56
maximausMy aunt is a teacher here and is forced to used Office XP on a lappie with 112 mb ram--since after buying XP licenses they had no money left over for ram. Ironically--she prefers Openoffice.11:56
Tsjoklateven though I am not crazy about the red haring salade11:56
monoxidecheap internet to download the softeware with...11:56
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maximausTsjoklat: I'm a swede, so I feel free to be critical of my countrymen. I LOVE herring by the way. :P11:57
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Tsjoklatmaximaus, ah yes herring oops sorry.. I typed it in Dutch11:57
Xappemaximaus, well, and we have to feed the polar bears every morning11:57
maximausLOL11:57
Tsjoklatmaximaus, I like it the Dutch way.. raw with onions11:57
maximausand served by sexy blond girls at a street stand. YUM.11:58
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linuxboyis there an unrar for ubuntu? if so, where must i get it from?11:59
Tsjoklatlinuxboy, apt-get unrar-nonfree11:59
Tsjoklatlinuxboy, just make sure you have universe and multiverse in your rep11:59
Xappeor you can just get it from rarlabs.com12:00
linuxboyTsjoklat: thatx12:01
linuxboyTsjoklat: thanx12:01
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Tsjoklatlinuxboy, you're welcome12:03
floschhi12:04
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Kwiathey there, i'd like to help out with graphic design!12:14
oDysseasI want to install ubuntu linux in my computer but I only have a pci modem. Will ubuntu recognize my modem? Or I will have to download the drivers?12:14
Kwiatyou can see what ive done so far at my homepage www.kwiat.org12:14
Kwiatanyone there to help me how i can chat to graphic designers at ubuntu?12:17
Neil3try the development forums Kwiat?12:18
maximausoDysseas: depends on what the chipset is. You'll probably have to grab drivers or even a different modem.12:19
Kwiatthanks neil but isnt anyone here at irc which may be kinda quicker in regard to communication?12:19
Neil3i dunno about this channel12:20
maximausFWIW I've used a conexant chipped pci modem w/linux w/ zero problems.12:20
TsjoklatKwiat, try the wiki?12:20
vi11ewhich setting do I have fakced up , my gnomes desktop clock gets always 10minutes forward in time when I reboot?12:20
oDysseasmaximaus my problem is that if I must download the drivers how am I going to do it without an internet connection?12:21
Kwiatjust trying the forum... tsjoklat - where to post in the wiki? under which category to file such a posting?12:21
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markumani can't found kernel-source-2.6.8.1.-2-38612:22
markumanfor the ubuntu warty 4.1012:22
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markumankernel-source-2.6.8.1.-338612:22
markumansorry, this i mean12:22
hydrusdoes anyone know anything about the "ubuntu look and feel contest"?12:24
Kwiatneil3, i'Ve no permission to post new threads in the dev forum?12:25
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titohi12:26
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hydrushi12:27
TsjoklatKwiat, I would go to the art wiki page12:27
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titoi need install a memory stick with NTFS can help me?12:28
KwiatTsjoklat, ive done so :)12:28
titognome-volume-manager is installed12:29
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KwiatTsjoklat - see my posting at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/UbuntuArtworkDiscussion12:30
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titofdisk -l12:31
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TsjoklatKwiat :)12:32
Kwiat:) short for kwiatkowski12:33
Favasis it possible to fresh install ubuntu into an already created raid0 array?12:33
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KwiatTsjoklat, are you wondring about my name ;) or how should i understand taht?12:33
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Xappehmm, I get a delayed sound output when trying (for example) tuxracer --> esddsp --> polypaudio12:35
looksauswould it be appropriate for me to put a link to an external bounty in the Ubuntu wiki?12:36
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looksausthink of something like GPL'ing blender, but on a smaller scale...12:36
Xappeis there another way to get sound from games with polypaudio up and running?12:37
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Kwiatsee you all12:39
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Tsjoklattaiwk?12:40
Tsjoklatway too late to be arsed by that12:40
olly-bhHi.  I've just installed ubuntu on a box - I want to use it as a mailserver, but it's refusing all external connections on port 25.  Any ideas why?12:41
olly-bhpostfix, btw12:41
wezzermake sure that your ISP ain't blocking port 2512:42
olly-bhwezzer: this is on my home network - nothing's going through my ISP yet12:42
olly-bhwezzer: and my ISP doesn't block it - I've been running an OpenBSD server till now12:43
titousb device is in NTFS and i need to install it12:44
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titowhat command i need to enter please?12:44
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wezzerokay, then I'm out of ideas12:45
pelle_hi, i have this beginner question:12:45
pelle_how do I get gnome to show computer, network, trashcan icons on my desktop?12:45
titoi don't know how do this, please help12:45
olly-bhwezzer: :(  thx anyway12:46
Tsjoklatpelle_, gconfeditor12:46
Tsjoklatpelle_, applications, system tools, gconf editor12:46
Tsjoklatconfiguration editor pelle_12:46
looksaustito, NTFS support is read-only for the moment12:47
pelle_tsjoklat, thanks!12:47
titook but i can't read12:47
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titofdisk -l detect it12:47
looksausnot sure if Ubuntu has NTFS read capabilities compiled into its default kernel12:47
Tsjoklatpelle_, you're welcome12:47
bob2it does12:47
Tomcat_looksaus: It does.12:47
titobut mount /dev/sda1 /usb not work12:48
looksaus(on Debian right now, can't check)12:48
bob2you need to specify the filesystem12:48
mishaonly fat32 work12:48
looksausmount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /usb ?12:48
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bob2something like that12:48
looksauson hoary, it should probably automount12:49
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titomount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1,12:49
tito       or too many mounted file systems12:49
tito       (aren't you trying to mount an extended partition,12:49
tito       instead of some logical partition inside?)12:49
pelle_tsjoklat, what category in gconf?12:49
Tsjoklatpelle_, gnome-session I think let me check12:50
Tsjoklatpelle_, nautilus desktop12:50
bob2tito: how sure are you that sda1 is the right device?12:50
Tsjoklatunder there you'll find it pelle_12:50
titoi edit /etc/fstab12:50
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titofdisk -l12:51
tito* /dev/sda112:51
looksaustito, why would you edit /etc/fstab?12:51
pelle_tsjoklat, thanks again!12:51
looksausyou should really make sure you can mount it correctly manualluy12:51
titoto add this /dev/sda1/mnt/win2kntfsro,auto,uid=1000,gid=1000 0 012:52
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Tsjoklat/dev/hda1       /mnt/windows/C  ntfs    ro,users,gid=users,umask=0002,nls=iso8859-1 0 012:52
markumani'm searching for the kernel-source from ubuntu warty 4.10. what should i have in my apt/sources.list to find it12:53
markuman?12:53
looksausmarkuman, I don't remember exactly, but I do know there is a great howto for anything kernel related on the ubuntu wiki12:54
bob2markuman: you don't need that tobuild modules12:54
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markumanbob2, but for nvidia driver i think so12:54
zenroxnope12:54
zenroxmarkuman, u need nvidia-glx12:55
markumanok12:55
Tsjoklatmarkuman you don't12:55
zenroxand linux-restricted-modules12:55
Tsjoklatmarkuman if you install linux-restricted-modules you will have 3D12:55
bob2markuman: nope12:55
bob2markuman: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto12:55
bob2Tsjoklat: you need to do more than that12:55
Tsjoklatbob2 I didn't12:56
zenroxthat too and www.ubuntuguide.org/#nvidiadriver <--i think12:56
Tsjoklatbob2 it worked straight up for me12:56
bob2well, X won't use the nvidia driver until you configure it to12:56
markumanif i run sh nvidiaxxxx.run , he want the kernel-source for the nvidia modules12:56
bob2markuman: indeed12:56
Tsjoklatbut then.. I am biased.. when zenrox says something I tend to doubt it12:56
bob221:55:50           bob2 | markuman: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto12:56
bob2read that12:56
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spazeryI have ubuntu 4.10, and i am trying to compile a program but i keep getting the error message, configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH12:59
zenroxspazery,  try sudo apt-get build-essentials01:00
bob2it's build-essential01:00
zenroxsorry habbit01:00
bob2?01:01
zenroxi put a s every thime i type that out01:01
looksausspazery, if I may be so curious, what are you trying to build?01:02
spazeryI get a message saying E: Invalid operation build-essential01:02
bob2spazery: sudo apt-get install build-essential01:02
looksausspazery, it's apt-get install build... bob2 was faster than me01:02
spazerysamba01:03
looksausok, that's what I was afraid of already01:03
bob2spazery: samba's in ubuntu...01:03
zenroxno need to compile samba01:03
looksausspazery, you really should read about how to install programs on Linux01:04
spazeryfor some reason it doesnt seem to have installed. As you can prob guess im new to Linux01:04
bob2spazery: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto01:04
looksausabout the concept of package management01:04
looksausit's a bit different than what you're used to on win/mac01:04
spazeryill have a look at it thanks. Yeah, it is much different. And alot better01:05
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titoafter editing /etc/fstab is necessari to restart computer?01:08
looksausno...01:08
linuxboyit there a site with all the changes from warty to hoary?01:10
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titomount -t NTFS /dev/sda1 /usb response:01:13
titomount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1,01:14
tito       or too many mounted file systems01:14
tito       (aren't you trying to mount an extended partition,01:14
tito       instead of some logical partition inside?)01:14
zenroxtito make ntfs lowercase01:14
DenisbrGood Morning01:15
titomount -t >ntfs< reponse the same01:15
zenroxtito is it prehaps fat3201:16
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zenroxif so try vfat insted of ntfs01:16
titoin fdisk -l reponse:01:16
bob2tito: sudo modprobe ntfs01:16
bob2assuming you're using an Ubuntu kernel01:17
titoyes i do01:17
titoreponse: * /dev/sda1 system: HPFS/NTFS01:18
titoyes Ubuntu 4.1001:18
DenisbrI am receiving the error:  Could not open resource will be writing when I execute play in the recorder of sound of gnome.  What it can be?01:20
titoi don't know how resolve this01:21
looksaustito, lsmod|grep ntfs01:21
looksausthis makes sure you have the ntfs kernel module loaded01:22
looksausif you get a result like01:22
looksausmark@navelpluis:~$ lsmod|grep ntfs01:22
looksausntfs                   50784   0 (unused)01:22
looksausyou have it loaded01:23
looksausif not, try what bob2 said: sudo modprobe ntfs01:23
titoyes01:23
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titoit is loaded01:24
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titoroot@ubuntu:/home/tito # lsmod|grep ntfs01:24
titontfs                   88660  001:25
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bob2then it really sounds like sda1 is not a NTFS filesystems01:26
bob2why do you think it is?01:26
bob2and fdisk output does not count01:26
looksauswhat kind of device is it?01:26
looksausbecause I know about zero usb mass storage devices that are ntfs formatted, except for some ordinary hard disks01:27
looksauscameras, MP3 players, other gadgets, they're almost all vfat01:27
looksaussome ext3, too01:27
titoi put in windows convert i: /FS:NTFS01:28
bob2gah01:28
bob2that was silly01:28
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AngryClipdoes anyone know of a script for kvirc that does teh "currently playing" with xmms?01:29
vjazyou don't want that01:29
vjazdon't do it01:29
vjaz...01:29
vjaz(it's annoying)01:29
AngryClipnah01:30
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AngryClipI want to bind it to a key (like f1)01:30
AngryClipnot to automaticaly spam the channels01:30
vjazhm... ok01:30
zenroxor manule type in a command01:30
zenroxAngryClip, check out kvircs webpage thay probly have scripts01:31
vjazwell I guess that might not be all that bad... but it's still annoying when people act as robots01:31
AngryClipzenrox: can't seem to find them there01:31
dev3How do I allow remote shell access using root?01:32
zenroxAngryClip, google can be your freind01:32
AngryClipnot on this occasion01:32
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zenroxAngryClip, thought about using xchat01:32
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MidnightDevilheya01:33
zenroxAngryClip, xchat has toes of xmms anounce scripts01:33
AngryClipzenrox: yeah, I don't like the interface01:33
zenroxhmm01:33
zenroxjust a thought the AngryClip01:33
AngryClipyeah ;)01:33
zenroxbut it might be worth it to get use to the ui of xchat for some kick butt scripts01:34
zenroxor write your own01:34
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MidnightDevilsome packages depend on ubuntu-base, how can i remove these?01:35
MidnightDevili got games that i dont need :)01:35
hydrusdoes anyone know anything about the "ubuntu look and feel contest"?01:35
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zenroxMidnightDevil,  open synaptic and look for the games you dont want and uninstall them01:36
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MidnightDevilwhen i uninstall them i get the msg that that package depends on ubuntu-desktop or alike01:37
thoreauputicMidnightDevil: that's a meta-package - removing it won't hurt anything01:37
thoreauputic(ubuntu-base)01:37
zenroxhes right01:37
thoreauputicsame for ubuntu-desktop01:37
MidnightDeviloh ok01:38
Xappedoes sb live support hardware mixing? (i'm getting tired of soundservers and nforce2 onboard sound)01:38
MidnightDevilsame goes for "kde-base" and alike right ?01:38
thoreauputicwhen in doubt, type apt-cache show <package> and see if it says "meta"01:38
MidnightDevilk01:39
vi11ewhat windows emulators are there available in apt-get ?01:39
thoreauputicMidnightDevil: apt will warn you if you try to deatroy your system *grin*01:39
thoreauputics/deatroy/destroy01:40
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JzEDoes any1 know good sites which tell you how to get quake2 work in linux?01:41
dev3How do I enable root login via ssh?01:41
thoreauputicdev3: sounds like a bad idea01:42
vi11eJzE: what emulator did you try it with?01:42
JzEvi11e: Haven't tried it with any yet01:42
thoreauputicdev3: what's wrong with user login followed by sudo -s or similar?01:43
dev3ah01:43
dev3I totally forgot about that01:43
dev3lol01:43
zenroxlol01:43
dev3sorry 5am01:43
zenroxlol01:43
dev3need sleep01:43
vi11eI have wine, but it seems that it is not very good, I am about to try some alternative emulator, but I don't really know what should I try01:43
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zenroxville try qemu01:43
vi11eI need to get 3d game virtual pool3 to work.. and multisim program01:44
vi11ehmm ok01:44
Neil3foobillard01:44
Neil33d pool ^01:44
vi11eyea but it isn't as good as vp301:44
JzEI looked at some sites and they said that I need pak0.pak from windows installation and linux binaries01:45
vi11eand it lags on my machine, I have ati card and I can't instal lgood drivers.. no matter if I install fglrx drivers it still lags01:45
JzEI got the pak0.pak and linux binaries.. But how do I start the game? =/01:45
zenroxvi11e,  read this to it will help http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1382301:45
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vi11eok, I'll try the qemu first01:46
PelleNewbie question: Are there any good graphical tools for handling fat32 disk mounting in linux?01:47
zenroxPelle,  no01:47
Pelleok ;)01:47
zenroxbut you can tell ubuntu to mount fat32 at start up so you dont have to think about it01:48
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kreigerhm01:48
kreigerI am currently dual-booting. 80 gb hd. how should i format my ntfs and add it to my linux?01:48
kreigeror do i need to format the entire thing? also, what do i do with grub?01:49
Pellezenrox - yes, I know - but it sure would be nice with a gui and some smooth icons rather than poking around with fstab01:49
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vi11ehmm seems like that qemu is emulating the pc not windows.. so I should have a full windows install ? naa thanks01:51
PelleThis HAL thing is very nice, but I have a particular key (or whatever they call) it I would like to edit manually (a vendor.string). Is that possible, and where do I do it?01:51
ompaulkreiger, do you want to close down that other thing for ever?01:54
ompaulkreiger, if so then you need to type sudo fdisk -l and it will show the layout of the hardrive01:55
kreigerclose down xp forever? yeah. i do.01:57
kreigerbut how do i attach it to my current file system?01:57
ompaulkreiger, after that you need to note the partition that has ntfsomething on it01:57
kreiger   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System01:58
kreiger/dev/hda1   *           1       83848    42258951    7  HPFS/NTFS01:58
kreiger/dev/hda2           83849      154016    35364672   83  Linux01:58
kreiger/dev/hda3          154017      155009      500472    f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)01:58
kreiger/dev/hda5          154017      155009      500440+  82  Linux swap01:58
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kreigerwhat hda3 is, i have NO idea.01:58
zenroxkreiger, are you going to get ride of windows compleatly01:58
kreigeryea.01:58
ompaulkreiger, it is an extended partition01:58
ompaulkreiger, have you got a lot of personal data on that box?01:59
zenroxjust do a reinstall and do a auto partion in the installer01:59
kreigermost of the important stuff is burned01:59
zenroxthats the quickest way01:59
NetwrkMonkeyyah know01:59
kreigeri have some music, but p2p is a beautiful thing01:59
NetwrkMonkeyubuntu is quite confusing on how to install Java01:59
NetwrkMonkeyfrom the guide's and how to's01:59
NetwrkMonkeytoo many different options and ways01:59
kreigerso, i guess to answer your question, no, not really that much personal stuff02:00
zenroxNetwrkMonkey, read www.ubuntuguide.org02:00
zenroxits the easyest way02:00
NetwrkMonkeyit's like stopping to ask for instructions and getting 15 answers02:00
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kreigeri guess i just don't really wanna format the entire thing, you know?02:00
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kreigernot like i can even acess the windows xp anyway02:00
kreigerexcept through a mounted drive02:00
felix_1Hi, Somenone knows how gnome initialise its menus when a new user starts it for the first time ? ( it takes the data from a skeleton, in the case of Ubuntu it must be somewhere in etc ...02:01
ompaulNetwrkMonkey, have you downloaded a file?02:01
NetwrkMonkeyi'm just ranting02:01
NetwrkMonkey;p02:01
zenroxNetwrkMonkey, lol02:02
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kreigernew question.02:02
kreigerhow do i open .wmv files in nix?02:02
ompaulNetwrkMonkey, you have a simple enough problem to solve I can answer in a couple of lines - so your rant is not really a good thing (tm)02:02
darksatanickreiger: mplayer, usually02:03
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darksatanickreiger: You will need the appropriate Win32 codec as well02:03
kreigeri think i got them.02:03
kreigeryeah, i did02:03
NetwrkMonkeyhrm i can't decide, do i want the jre or the jdk, i might do some development, but then i can't decide02:03
NetwrkMonkeyargh02:03
kreigeris it cause i'm trying to run the file from an ntfs drive?02:03
darksatanicUnlikely.02:04
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ompaulNetwrkMonkey, so take something and if you want more get it02:04
kreigerhm02:04
darksatanic.wmv covers a whole range of evils.02:04
NetwrkMonkeyompaul, you in ireland?02:04
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kreigerwell, i'm trying .avi now02:04
kreigeror, rather .mpg02:04
cyrus82hi! does anyone know when xorg 6.8.2 will be in hoary? (i need the new nv driver)02:04
darksatanicYou may not have the exact codec needed.02:04
ompaulNetwrkMonkey, I hope so02:04
kreigerand i'm getting an error from totem02:04
bretzelNetwrkMonkey: I have jdk 1.5 - with netbeans, the ubuntu wiki and /or howto shows how to installit and setup :-)02:04
apokryphosI've made a static IP, but after a restart, it reverts back to my old IP until I do an ifdown/ifup eth0. Is this meant to happen?02:05
ompaulNetwrkMonkey, when I flew home on Wednesday night the airport was Dublin :)02:05
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thoreauputicompaul: it's an illusion - as far as I'm concerbed you are in Australia ;)02:06
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thoreauputic*concerned02:06
ompaulthoreauputic, perhaps, but then again if I was I would be in hanging out in cape trib :)02:06
ompaulthoreauputic, then I would have no net access02:07
thoreauputichehe02:07
ompaulwhich makes my presence even more of an illusion02:07
snowblinkapokryphos: where/how did you specify your static ip?02:07
apokryphossnowblink: in /etc/network/interfaces02:08
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NetwrkMonkeyso far i like ubuntu02:08
snowblinkapokryphos: that should keep work then02:08
NetwrkMonkeyi've been using it for hrm 3 months now?02:08
snowblinkapokryphos: keep them02:09
NetwrkMonkeybeen with linux sincce redhat 3.0.302:09
spiralfabbione: hello ?02:09
spiralNetwrkMonkey: whoah... which kernel was it then ?02:09
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apokryphossnowblink: Keep work? Does this mean I have to do an ifdown/ifup eth0 everytime?02:09
snowblinkapokryphos: no. Sorry. If you enter it there, it should keep them02:10
thoreauputicdhcp issues?02:10
apokryphossnowblink: Something must be going wrong then. ;-)02:12
apokryphosPrior to having a static IP though, funnily enough, the local IP never changed.02:12
thoreauputica brilliant illumination of the obviuos ;) !02:12
apokryphosSure is refreshing02:12
NetwrkMonkeybrb02:13
snowblinkapokryphos: Hmmm. Local IP, static IP. Are you NATing?02:13
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apokryphosWell, network stuff, yes02:14
spiralany new about ipw2200 fix ?02:14
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apokryphosbrb02:15
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ompaulspiral, that was kernel version 1.2.13 according to rick moen in an article to be found here --->> http://www.linuxmafia.com/~rick/linux-info/info-general02:17
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spiralompaul: ouah :-)02:18
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fuflohi. where is the default cursor theme defined on warty? i like those white cursors, but when i update pkgs from hoary, those cursors disappear.. how can i save current config?02:29
fufloyoohoo?02:30
chelebfuflo: Hi, check this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1402902:30
fuflok02:31
titohow can i format a memory stick for read in Windows and Ubuntu? NTFS?02:31
Xappefuflo, you should not mix packages from hoary with warty. use backports instead if you have to, or upgrade to hoary...02:31
chelebtito: FAT16/32 should work02:32
titoand how can i format this?02:33
titomy device usb is in /dev/sda102:33
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chelebtito: fdisk /dev/sda102:33
titotnks02:34
fufloXappe, backports? :/02:34
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fuflocheleb, thanks. looks helpful02:34
Xappefuflo, yes. packages from hoary that have been altered to fit warty02:35
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fuflok02:35
Xappebut I would be careful with them too, because they can screw you when upgrading to hoary later on02:35
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chelebDoes anyone in here have problems with sound/polypaudio?02:37
plagerismIs there something special I need to do to be able to print from openoffice to a cups printer??02:37
plagerismI have verified the printer works in other programs, just not in openoffice02:37
fufloXappe, but.. hm.. sooner or later all packages would be updated if i use hoary's pkgs.. so after some time i will have full hoary? :)02:38
thoreauputiccheleb: you are not alone - lots of people, it seems02:40
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Xappefuflo, well...no...if you do not dist-upgrade to hoary, you'll end up with a total me....hmm...mixture02:43
vi11eHey, is there some freeware OS emulator?02:44
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vi11elike VMware02:44
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chelebthoreauputic: well, at the end it's good to hear that i am not alone ( in some sense :) )02:44
Tomcat_vi11e: There's Bochs...02:44
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thoreauputicon mac, there's mac-on-linux02:45
thoreauputicwhich can also run linux-on-linux (not windows though, since there's no win for ppc ;) )02:45
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Seiken`is it okay to ask if someone can look at my thread on ubuntuforums.org and see if they can help me out? or is that considered disrepectful to the people on the forum (by not waiting for their responses)02:46
Silensiushowh can i remove openoffice and reinstall french version ?02:46
fufloXappe, hm.. i did this last time i had installed ubuntu.. and then ant login prompt it showed hoary.. isnt that enough?02:46
thoreauputicSeiken`: URL?02:46
Seiken`thoreauputic: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1611102:47
Seiken`I am just eager to get it up and running is all.02:47
Seiken`(running off the LiveCD right now)02:47
thoreauputicSeiken`: looking02:47
Seiken`thanks02:47
chelebSilensius: apt-get install language-support-fr02:47
plagerismdo I need something special to print from openoffice to a cups print server??02:48
Silensiusthanks02:48
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thoreauputicSeiken`: have you tried doing  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop  ?  I have heard that sometimes works02:50
thoreauputicSeiken`: but it looks like a deeper problem02:50
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jonofabbione, you here?02:50
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plagerismin openoffice my print jobs just go into oblivion02:50
plagerismthats not good02:50
Silensiuscheleb : i'm on mac and it says no packages02:50
plagerismthey go to the big bit bucket in the sky02:50
usernameif I wanted to install ubunto, how would I be able to ascertain which programs are of which version, before I do so?02:51
Seiken`thoreauputic: yes, I have. It just gives me dependency errors on a bunch of x stuff.02:52
thoreauputicusername: which program in particular? There are thousands ...02:52
usernamethoreauputic: all of them02:52
thoreauputicSeiken`: hmm - sorry I don't know then: but possibly your disc is corrupt? You checked the md5sum?02:53
usernamethoreauputic: just list them all for me - I'll stop you when you get to one that I'm interested in02:53
chelebSilensius: i guess you'll have to go here then : http://fr.openoffice.org/about-downloads.html#fr02:53
Seiken`thoreauputic: possible. I did not check the md5sum, no, because up until yesterday I didn't even know about md5sum checking :)02:53
thoreauputicusername: haha - you want me to flood the channel for the next hour?02:53
usernamethoreauputic: unless there's a better way02:53
BanditSeiken` sorry i just arrived here but is your problem you cant get it installed completely?02:54
Seiken`Bandit: check this URL for my problem -- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1611102:54
whyubuntuis there anyone who could tell me what is special about ubuntu or give me some links?02:54
usernamethoreauputic: there must be some means of ascertaining what versions are currently in ubunto or not?02:54
BanditSeiken` no sorry thought you wanted help02:55
thoreauputicusername: aure - look on distrowatch.com02:55
Seiken`ok, thanks anyway02:55
usernamethoreauputic: for example, the program 'inkscape' is currently at 0.41 release.02:55
usernamethoreauputic: excellent - I'll investigate02:55
thoreauputicusername: distrowatch has most versions listed02:55
usernamethat'll be very useful - thanks02:56
thoreauputicusername: be aware there are over 10 000 packages available....02:56
Bandit:)02:56
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snowblinkhoary-users, is postfix still the default MTA?02:57
ompaulwhyubuntu, try having a look at www.ubuntulinux.org the fact that if you check out distrowatch.com you will see it getting a bit of interest - I have been using OSS for 10+ years and I am happy to suggest it to anyone who asks :-)02:57
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Panzerboysnowblink: yes02:57
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Panzerboyis there any way i can install tomcat in ubuntu besides the obviuosly manual way ?02:58
thoreauputicusername: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/02:58
snowblinkPanzerboy: cheers.02:58
plagerismwhere do I file Ubuntu bugs??02:58
Panzerboycheers snowblink02:58
snowblinkPanzerboy: I just installed tomcat... let me check my notes02:59
Panzerboysnowblink: thanks02:59
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fuflowhere are all modules that are loaded on startup ? or is it managed by hotplug. and if so, then how can i exclude some modules i dont want to load.. ?02:59
snowblinkPanzerboy: no probs downloading it and tar xvzf -C /opt02:59
thoreauputicplagerism: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/02:59
Panzerboysnowblink: ok02:59
snowblinkPanzerboy: only issue on warty was mod_jk compilation02:59
zenroxheas a good question i got dual monters set up in my xorg.conf but the other vid card (witch also uses a nvidia driver) will not turn it on so i was forsed to use the nv driver just to get back here02:59
zenroxxorg log said some thing about unresoulved symboles03:00
Panzerboysnowblink: well, i didn't plan on using mod_jk03:00
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usernamethoreauputic: that's interesting, ubunto has only got about twenty or thirty packages in it.03:00
Panzerboysnowblink: i don't have apache installed on the machine and besides that, it's not a production server03:00
snowblinkPanzerboy: fair enough. I think that the bug (Debian 243340) should be fixed in Hoary anyway03:01
jonoanyone know about using bluetooth with a nokia phone?03:01
thoreauputicusername: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/03:01
Panzerboyjono: depends on what you want to do03:01
zenroxanyone want to take a stab03:02
thoreauputicusername: and everything at  http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/03:02
whyubuntuompaul, thanks, that is what i wanted, i will look it trough03:02
ironwolfjono: you want jdub's bluetooth stuff, not sure where it is or if jdub is up right now.03:02
thoreauputicusername: that should keep you busy for an eon or so ;)03:02
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jonoPanzerboy, I want to use gnome-phone-manager, but I keep getting an error about it not being able to use /dev/rfcomm0 - it does exist, but I suspect it is a udev problem03:03
chelebfuflo: yes, they are all managed by hotplug. to disable modules at startup they must be blacklisted in /etc/hotplug/blacklist03:03
jonoironwolf, what stuff?03:03
Panzerboyjono: i see, i was more interested in some sync stuff03:04
zenroxhow can i tell ubuntu to use the same driver for a second video card03:04
ironwolfjono: jdub built stuff for bluetooth to work. *sorry for being vague, I haven't used it*03:04
usernamethoreauputic: aha - found it. Thanks. I see inkscape is a version behind there, too03:04
usernamethoreauputic: but not three versions behind as gentoo is03:04
jonoPanzerboy, how do I get it to sync? I have managed to get a message on the phone where it asks to connect, but it has a problem weith the rfcomm thing03:04
ironwolfIs there a way to make an ntfs filesystem read-write without re-compiling the kernel?03:04
thoreauputicusername: look in hoary for the latest stuff03:05
Panzerboyjono: that's what i would like to know myself too :)03:05
fuflocheleb, thx again :)03:05
Panzerboyjono: i've been searching a way to sync my address book with evolution03:05
jonoPanzerboy, you had the same problems?03:05
jonowith rfcomm?03:05
Panzerboybut up until know, i didn't find anything03:05
chelebfuflo: cheers03:05
Panzerboyjono: no, i didn't try to use gnome-phone-manager03:05
jonoPanzerboy, how did you get it to sync?03:06
Panzerboysnowblink: it's strange, but it seems that in debian there is a tomcat package03:06
Panzerboysnowblink: i'm wondering why it's not in ubuntu03:06
Panzerboyjono: i didn't, i just said above that i'm TRYING to find a way to sync it03:07
jonoahhh03:07
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zenroxhow do i get dual monters set up using 2 deferent nvidia vid cards (xorg.conf is edited right i think) but it will not kick on the second montoer using the nvidia driver as xorg complains about unresoulved symboles in nvidia03:10
zenroxnad to change the second vid card to use nv just so i can log back in to get more help03:11
zenroxnad=had03:11
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zanshinHello everybody03:12
zenroxhello03:12
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zanshinI tried Yoper because it uses i686 packages. But the packagemanagent sucks. So I want to try ubuntu. Does this distro use i686 or i386 packages?03:13
thoreauputiczenrox: just for reference - you don't actually *need* X for IRC - ubuntu has irssi-text by default03:13
zanshinor can I choose :)03:13
vi11ehey what's up with this : I make a link out of an exe file, and if I run this link it starts to whine about some file that is located in the dir of the original exe03:13
zenroxthoreauputic,  ya but i wanted to prove to my self that x still worked with the config file was edited right03:13
blkis it possible to use ssh to connect the server to the client in order to pierce the firewall? (send an invitation)03:13
thoreauputiczanshin: i386 execept for kernels you can choose to install, I think03:14
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thoreauputiczenrox: fair enough ;)03:14
zanshinthoreauputic: tobad thanks anyway.03:14
zenroxthoreauputic,  and it works03:14
Echylowhat is a good cd ripper?03:14
Echyloor is sound juicer thing ok?03:14
ironwolfEchylo: grip03:14
thoreauputicEchylo: it's a bit limited - grip is better03:14
ompaulAFKEchylo, the ripper works03:15
Echylohmm does it rips to ogg?03:15
zenroxjust need to track down why xorg dont like using the same driver for 2 doferent vid cards03:15
ompaulAFKEchylo, yes03:15
snowblinkblk: are you talking about port fowarding?03:16
plagerismughh, I just want to print from openoffice, but spadmin crashes all over the place03:16
Echylook thank you03:16
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blksnowblink: i don't have access to the NAT-settings03:16
snowblinkblk: Not clear what you are trying to achieve03:16
blksnowblink: that's why i need the server to invite me -> open the connection03:16
snowblinkblk: It depends on your firewall settings03:17
blksnowblink: the firewall of the server tolerates a connection once it's been opend from inside but refuses it if i try to connect from outside03:18
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snowblinkblk: okay. And you are trying to connect from the outside to this server?03:20
blksnowblink: yeah03:20
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zenroxi am wondering if i have to mod probe agine the nvidia driver and have it point to the other vid card03:21
usernameam I right in thinking that if I were to install ubuntu there wouldn't be any kde?03:21
snowblinkblk: I think you need to open your firewall to allow connections from outside then.03:21
thoreauputicusername: not by default - but you cab install it from reposirories with synaptic03:22
thoreauputic*can03:22
blksnowblink: that's the problem, it's a network firewall that i don't have access to.. i know WinVNC has such an option for the server to send an invitation and it's working, but i want the same thing for SSH03:22
thoreauputicusername: you would enable the "universe" repository in the synaptic package manager03:22
thoreauputicor use apt-get03:22
vi11ehey what's up with this : I make a link out of an exe file, and if I run this link it starts to whine about some file that is located in the dir of the original exe.03:23
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snowblinkblk: I don't think you can do that. I hope you can't. :/03:24
vi11ewindoows applicadion... the link tries to run in wine03:24
thoreauputicvi11e: with wine? There are no exe files in linux03:24
thoreauputicah I see03:24
vi11eso I somehow have to get to the directory to run it..:( so I can't have a link?03:24
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vi11eI run link to elma.exe and it says the elma.res is missing... which is located in elma dir... and if I run elma.exe in elma dir, it works fine03:26
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AndyRlo all03:26
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vi11ealso this command works: "cd /dirtoelma/;wine elma.exe"  <--03:27
vi11ein terminal03:27
snowblinkblk: I would be too concerned about security if I had anything running that could do that.03:27
EchyloI was wondering, issit possible to integrate a webbrowser into the desktop03:27
blksnowblink: i understand..trojans and so..03:27
Echylolike in XP an active desktop03:27
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snowblinkblk: firewall change to allow your ip would be best option03:28
usernamethoreauputic: thanks03:29
snowblinkEchylo: funny03:29
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Echylowhat?03:29
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snowblinkEchylo: integrating browser and desktop03:30
chelebvi11e: make shure your link is not pointing to your application directly. instead it would be a launcher with an command like this "wine c:////Program\ Files//elma.exe"03:30
Echylois there something wrong with it?03:30
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Echylofor example a 500*500 screen with google03:30
Echyloon workspace 403:30
Echylo:p03:30
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thoreauputicEchylo: what is the advantage exactly?03:30
EchyloI dunno03:31
Echylofun03:31
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relhi, is preemtption enabled in the default hoary kernel?03:31
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thoreauputicEchylo: you can just leave a browser running on workspace4 opened to google, can't you?03:31
kreigeris there a way to see what was in the console before a hard crash?03:31
Echyloyes03:31
Echylonvm03:31
blksnowblink: i know but that's not possible in this case.. maybe i can tunnel it through..03:31
jonohas anyone reported bugs in the 2.10 version of bluez-utils03:32
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vi11echeleb: I have it in a directory like this: /home/ville/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/elma hmmp, so how would you type it?03:33
usernameis ubuntu a 'user' oriented distribution, or is it more suitable for technical people and programmers?03:33
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thoreauputicusername: it's intended to "just work" ou of the box03:34
usernamethoreauputic: excellent. That's the one I'm after, then.03:34
thoreauputicusername: but the stuff is available if you want more advanced03:34
ompaulAFKusername, it is a user oriented distro - evidence to whit, my father in law who never owned a computer before is happy using it for email and stuff03:34
ogbhi, I've tried to compile my own kernel on ubuntu. Do I have to creat an initrd?03:34
usernameI want 'just works' - I'm used to OS X, which does exactly that. I'm getting fed up with gentoo, which 'just doesnt' half the time.03:35
chelebville: wine "c:////Program\ Files//elma hmmp//elma.exe"03:35
snowblinkogb: If you have things like ext3 as a module, yes.03:35
thoreauputicusername: how well it works rather depends what you need to do ")03:35
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ogbsnowblink, I have not, all FS are static compiled into the kernel.03:36
chapter3hey all, where can i find the latest horay install cd?03:36
thoreauputicusername: for the basics, it should be fine03:36
Echylowhat is the shortcut to switch in workspaces?03:36
usernameI reckon basics will do me fine for now03:36
Echylowasn't it ctrl + numberN03:36
Echylo?03:36
chelebchapter3: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/03:36
chapter3cheleb: ty03:36
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ogbsnowblink, but GRUB won't load my kernel, it stops after the  uncompressing of the kernel :(03:37
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vi11echeleb there's no folder hmmp, I Just added that as if I was thinking, sorry :) and... I added it without that and nothing happens :/03:37
thoreauputicogb: ubuntu uses udev and hald and a few other things your kernel may lack03:38
ogbon gentoo I compiled my kernel everytime myself and it just worked03:38
ogbthoreauputic, what is hald?03:38
snowblinkhal03:38
chelebvi11e:  strange. this is what helped me out with cinema4d under wine.03:38
thoreauputicogb: see above, and you would need to compile "the debian way" with kernel-package03:38
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krismupgrading to 2.6.10 got my suspend-to-ram working :)03:39
vi11ebut shouldn't I include the correct path... /drive_c/ and those03:39
thoreauputicwell, not *need*, but it would be easier03:39
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ogbthoreauputic, I've tried to compile the kernel "the debian way" with make-kpkg03:39
thoreauputicogb: OK03:39
ogbno success03:39
ogb:(03:39
krismbut, while suspended, my system clock goes crazy fast - e.g. in 10 minutes of suspended-ness, the clock goes forward 1.5 hours03:39
krismanybody ever hear of this before?03:40
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roka_helllo03:40
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thoreauputicogb: why are you compiling? just for interest, or for some specific feature?03:40
zenroxogb, got to add --initrd i think to it when you making kpakg03:40
lzaphello I need help03:40
ogbthoreauputic, dvb card03:40
lzapHello, I have modified the Horay Live ISO by extracting it, adding some directories (/extra - with some documentation and other files) and recreated the iso03:40
lzapmkisofs -o ../isofile.iso 1 -allow-leading-dots -allow-multidot -iso-level 4 -J -R -b isolinux/isolinux.bin -c +isolinux/boot.cat -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 -boot-info-table .03:40
lzapWhen I burn it and run it, the message appears and I am not able to boot the live system.03:40
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roka_who do i get mine PCI-ex grafic-card working on Warty amd 64 verison? Ive tried to compile Xorg6.8.1 but it keeps failing03:40
chelebville: no, because you start wine all paths are relative to your "fake windows" paths03:41
ogbzeedo, do I need --initrd?03:41
vi11etell me what all commands I can use to read error messages: "tail /var/log/messages" , dmesg , ?03:41
roka_how*03:41
vi11ehmm ok03:41
ogbthoreauputic, I have to compile the kernel, that is the problem03:41
zenroxogb go read up in the forums03:41
ogbi will do this :)03:41
chelebville: try the command without the quotes03:42
zenroxthat will tell it to mk a initrd for grub03:42
lzapthe message is  "The CD-ROM drive contains a non-Ubuntu CD"03:42
zenroxi had the same prob03:42
lzapwhat it means?03:42
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roka_do someone know howto use pci-ex graficcards in Warty AMD64 version?03:42
vi11ealrighty, now it works, but I still got the same "elma.res missing" so it thought I wasn't in the actual directory03:42
ogbzenrox, ok, i will create an initrd03:42
zenroxogb search for kernel compile03:42
zenroxogb thats why the debian way does work just need to have it make a initrd too03:43
ogbok, thx03:43
lzapwhat  "The CD-ROM drive contains a non-Ubuntu CD" means in the Horay Live CD please?03:44
krismhmm. adding 'hwclock --hctosys' fixed it.03:44
vi11echeleb: is there a chance that I can make a launcher than runs a terminal command like it would run in terminal?03:44
krism(err, adding that to my suspend.sh script after system wake up fixed it)03:44
Banditlzap means you need the hoary cd03:44
chelebville: what about this?  wine "c://Program Files/elma/elma.exe"03:45
lzapbut why?03:45
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lzapits the oficial live cd (beta version)03:45
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Banditmaybe you burnt it wrong03:45
Bandittry again03:45
Aquilahi03:45
lzapslightly modified, I have just unpacked the iso, added a directory and recreated it back...03:45
chelebvi11e: yes, as soon as you have found the right command you can create a desktop-launcher for it03:45
Banditso its not official then03:45
lzapits not03:46
lzapofficial works fine03:46
lzapi have found this page: https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/LiveCDCustomizationHowTo03:46
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vi11esame again, elma.res file is missing... and yes, I have found a terminal command03:46
vi11ecd /home/ville/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/elma;wine Elma12.exe03:47
vi11ethat in quotes works03:47
vi11e2 commands in 103:47
vi11ewith launcher it says : Details: Failed to execute child process "cd /home/ville/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/elma;wine Elma12.exe" (No such file or directory)03:48
Aquilahow can i install my modem driver?03:48
Aquila:03:49
vi11ewhat does that mean, it couldn't execute the cd command or the 2nd command ?03:49
dwa_depends on the type of modem you have aquila03:49
chelebville: how about creating an bash-script with your commands and launch that with an launcher?03:49
dwa_i'm guessing a winmodem?03:49
lzapwhat command is Horay Live CD iso created?03:49
thoreauputicAquila: we need more info ;)03:49
Aquilait is a bt voyager USB modem03:49
Aquilalol03:50
Aquilabt voyager adsl usb modem03:50
vi11echeleb: sounds like I could do it, but I am not familiar with bash scripts... if you want to help me (in priv window or here) :)03:50
dwa_aquila : step 1 - plug it in ;)03:50
vi11echeleb: I know how to add alias to bash03:50
vi11ethat's all03:51
Aquilalol03:51
Aquilait was in03:51
chelebville: pm me03:51
ompaulAFKlzap,  cdrecord dev=?,?,? -pad driveropts=burnfree hoary-live-i386.iso     :: you find the value of dev from 'cdrecord --scanbus'03:51
Aquilathe drivers are for windows and mac03:52
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Aquilai need new drivers03:52
dwa_i'm sorry aquila but i don't have any experience with usb adsl modems03:52
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dwa_i have an ethernet modem03:52
lzap-pad?03:52
ompaulAFKlzap, as I wrote it, it will work03:52
lzapthank you! will test it, I will report03:52
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dwa_aquila: maybe this helps? http://eciadsl.flashtux.org/index.php?lang=en03:54
thoreauputiclzap: if cdrecord -scanbus complains, try  cdrecord dev=ATAPI: -scanbus03:54
lzapbut when I burn the official ISO it works fine03:55
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Matrix_Soulhi03:56
lzapi meah how the iso is created, not burned... will try it tho03:56
thoreauputiclzap: ah, I see - you are remastering?03:56
thoreauputiclzap: if so, that's ouside my experience03:57
thoreauputic*outside03:57
Matrix_Soulhow can I can change the gdm screen?? because since I upgraded to hoary, it displays a picture of debian instead of a picture of ubuntu03:57
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housetierMatrix_Soul sudo gdm-setup might get you started03:57
LinuxJonesMatrix_Soul, gdmsetup03:57
lzapyes... I have just extracted the iso and added one directory that have nothing to do with Ubuntu, just to have the CD be full... and it do not work: "The CD-ROM drive contains a non-Ubuntu CD"03:58
thoreauputicMatrix_Soul, housetier  gdmsetup I think03:58
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thoreauputicall one word03:58
Matrix_Soulok, thanks03:59
sid77ciao03:59
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thoreauputiclzap: man mkisofs maybe?04:00
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lzapI have created loads of modified Live CDs and it worked...04:01
thoreauputiclzap: someone with remastering experience may be able to help - I don't know, I'm afraid04:01
kreigerHow do i download jre?04:01
kreigeri'm on the jre site, and i'm trying to follow the ubuntuguide.org, but i'm not sure what to download on the page04:02
kreigerhttp://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp04:02
lzapplease someone with Array 4 Live CD mastering experience - I need an urgent help!04:02
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snowblinkkreiger: JDK for other platforms04:03
kreigerthanks snow04:04
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membreyakreiger: use blackdown ;)04:06
Banditkreiger i think you want jre for other platforms04:06
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snowblinkkreiger: oh sorry you wanted the JRE04:07
kreiger....04:07
Bandit:)04:08
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snowblinkkreiger: the JDK should still still work, if you've downloaded it. :)04:08
kreigerhow do i delete the jdk then?04:08
kreigerWell, yeah, but the ubuntuguide is specific04:08
kreigeralsoo, i'm trying to run azeureus04:08
kreiger..04:08
kreigeror however you spell it04:08
kreigerhow do i delete what i just unpacked in  the bin?04:09
thoreauputickreiger: if you haven't installed yet, it should be sitting there in the directory I think04:10
membreyakreiger: azureus is easy..just got it running on my system :)04:10
kreigerYeah, i'm following the guide04:10
kreigeranyway i unpacked it.04:10
kreigersh jdk etc04:10
lzapplease someone with Array 4 Live CD mastering experience - I need an urgent help!04:10
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jovianim having issues with my screen resolution the auto detect didn't set up 1280x1024 so I edited the /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file and it still didn't pick it up. how can I add that resolution so that I can get out of the huge 1024x76804:11
membreyahmmm under ubuntu is there a way to limit the speed of certain ports? ie to throttle port 6881?04:11
thoreauputiclzap: why do you need the extra direstory? Is it important?04:11
AndyRcan anyone explain how to spare a printer on hoary connected to printer port to another hoary computer?04:11
snowblinkkreiger: the JRE should be in there04:11
lzapyes, I am preparing a CD cover for a magazine04:11
AndyRspare = share :)04:12
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kreigerit wasn't, actually04:12
kreigerdun matter04:12
snowblinkkreiger: no jre subdirectory?04:12
kreigeri'm good now04:12
kreigeri'm fine now, snowblink04:12
kreigerthis is only a temp install anyway04:12
kreigerso i can figure out if i wanna keep ubuntu04:13
kreigeri think i do tho04:13
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kreigerhow do i delete a file in command line?04:14
upskreiger: rm filename04:15
thoreauputickreiger: rm <file>04:15
kreigerdanke04:16
upsnp :)04:16
kreigerbrb04:17
jovianplease anyone I can't find a howto or a faq on it either04:17
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snowblinkjovian: check your monitor frequencies04:18
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thoreauputicjovian: the fact that you've edited the file means you will have to continue to do it manually: the usual way would have been sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree8604:18
thoreauputicor xserver-xorg in hoary04:19
thoreauputicbut that won't work for a file you've edited (debian respects your changes)04:19
lzapplease someone with Array 4 Live CD mastering experience - I need an urgent help! (it seems Array 4 is checking CDROM label or something - cannot get my modification to boot)04:20
jovianits at 60Hz04:20
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joviannoted thoreauputic and thanks for the input04:21
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crackhello all04:21
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lzapI am trying to set the CD label to "Ubuntu 5.04 i386 Bin-1"04:23
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thoreauputiclzap: perhaps the CD checks its md5sum and finds it different - so refuses to cooperate (just a wild guess)04:25
lzapno distros do that...04:26
thoreauputiclzap: maybe search the CD for md5sum?04:26
thoreauputiclzap: OK you probably know better - just a suggestion04:26
lzapbut I didnt changed anything, I have just added one directory04:26
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thoreauputicthat would change the md5sum, though wouldn't it?04:27
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lzapno the installer is not able to check whole CD, that takes 10 minutes .... or more04:27
crackcan someone tell me why wine wont open ventrilo?04:27
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crackits so quick... i cant see everything04:27
lzapopen console and see the error message04:28
thoreauputiclzap: md5 checks don't take ten minutes!04:28
crackyou mean terminal?04:28
kreigerok. why can't i play .avi and .mpg files?04:29
lzapyep04:29
cracki did04:29
cracki cant see anything?04:29
lzapthor: yes it does, try to check the WHOLE CD, I mean 700MB... 10 minutes...04:29
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cracki also cant open wine04:29
lzapat least04:29
crackor04:29
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cracki dont know exactly the command04:29
lzapplease someone with Array 4 Live CD mastering experience - I need an urgent help! (it seems Array 4 is checking CDROM label or something - cannot get my modification to boot)04:29
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thoreauputicI don't think repeating the same thing wil help somehow...04:30
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crackhey thor!04:32
cracklong time no see04:32
Jelteanyone know how i can work out what type of memory i have installed?  I did an  'lshw'  which shows me its DIM DRAM Synchronous, 256, but not what bus speed...04:32
thoreauputichey crack :)04:32
crackthoreauputic, can you help me with a quick prob with wine?04:33
kreigerAnybody know why i wouldn't be able to view mpg or avi files?04:33
kreigeri got w32codecs04:33
thoreauputiccrack: sorry I know nothing about wine  :(04:33
crackthoreauputic, thats ok thanks!!04:33
crackkreiger, what player are you using?04:34
crackmplayer?04:34
cracktotem?04:34
kreigertotem04:34
kreigeri get an error04:35
kreigerone sec04:35
kreigernvm. now it works04:35
kreigerhuh04:35
crackhahaha04:35
crackhey where did u get the codec?04:35
kreigerapt-get install 232codecs04:35
kreigerw32codecs04:35
cracknot finding them04:36
crackhmm04:36
kreigeradd extra repositories04:36
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cracki have all of them04:36
Matrix_Soulhi04:37
kreigerwww.ubuntuguide.com04:37
kreigeror something04:37
kreigerwell, it worked for me, man04:37
crackfor some stupid reason, my keyboard w is a u04:37
crackwtf04:37
Matrix_SoulI cant open amule and when i try it from terminal it says:04:37
Matrix_Soulroot@BLT:~ # amule04:37
Matrix_Soulamule: relocation error: amule: symbol _7wxPanel.sm_eventTable, version WXGTK_2.4 not defined in file libwx_gtk-2.4.so.0 with link time reference04:37
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crackwell, i dont get it04:38
crack in terminal04:38
crackmy w looks like a u04:38
crackbut04:38
crackeverywhere else04:38
crackits a w04:39
Matrix_Soulcan anybody help me?04:39
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jovian#slune04:40
kreigersorry crack04:40
kreigerlol04:40
thoreauputiccrack: is you terminal set for utf? There's an option for that in gnome-terminal (or whatever your default is)04:40
cracknah its ok04:40
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cracki just went to root terminal and it is a w04:40
crackso04:40
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crackin regular terminal, its a u04:40
crackrofl04:40
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LinuxJonesMatrix_Soul, have you checked google ?04:41
crackstill looks like a u04:41
crackchanged that thor04:41
jovianI would like to thank whoever suggested looking at the refresh rates. They were in range of my monitor but I rewset them to exactly what my monitor can do and it works so Thank you04:42
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msg43how do I install the ubuntu source?04:42
crackkreiger, i still cant install the codecs... but again its probably that idont have the right repository04:42
crackoh well04:43
cracki will get it later04:43
crackway too much configuring to do besides that04:43
cocolh04:43
crackgot some work to do04:43
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cracksee yall04:44
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kreigercrack04:44
kreigerone sec04:44
Banditmsg43 you mean the iso04:44
kreigerhere04:44
thoreauputickreiger: he's left :)04:44
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cocolcrack http://ubuntuguide.or04:44
kreigerhttp://www.ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories04:44
msg43Bandit: I have the iso burnt to cd but I need to get the source of the kernel to compile ndiswrapper04:44
cocolhttp://ubuntuguide.org04:44
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kreigerCrack, click mine04:45
kreigeroh04:45
kreigergrrr04:45
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thoreauputicBandit: restricted formats are an issue, unfortunately04:46
thoreauputicnot much can be done about that04:46
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Banditrestricted? isnt what hes after for a wireless connection?04:47
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thoreauputicBandit: soory I missed something (not on the ball today )04:48
thoreauputic;)04:48
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Sionidedamn my ubuntu cd coming yesterday04:49
Sionidei'm gonna do *no* homework today :P04:50
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da_bon_bonhi all04:50
da_bon_bonmy gnome-btdownload suddenly stopped working, any suggestions ?04:50
da_bon_bonanyone can help me with installin vmware 4.5.2 build 884804:50
ironwolfI'm seeing cryptsetup device in /dev/mapper disappear when I reboot.  I'm following directions in the wiki.  Where do I look now?04:51
da_bon_bonSionide: how would u know ?04:51
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Sionideda_bon_bon, cos i'm gonna be mucking about with ubuntu all day instead of doing any work04:51
Sionidei'm too good at procrastinating04:51
Sionidei'll do some work when i've got it all set up on my laptop ;)04:51
LinuxJonesda_bon_bon, you can try running /usr/bin/btdownload.gui and see what error comes up ?04:52
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msg43how to do I upgrade to hoary04:54
vi11eHey what is this: USERS folder in /home/myname/ and myname.ini inside.  <-- what file and why? can I delete it?04:55
Sionideif you're not sure, it's usually a good policy not to delete stuff04:56
vi11eyea , but I thought if someone knows here so I can delete it :S wasn't about to delete it if no one knows/tells :)04:56
da_bon_bonhelo!04:56
da_bon_bonam i alive ?04:56
Sionideyes04:56
Banditnope04:56
Sionidezido isn't though.04:56
da_bon_bonLinuxJones: what error ? about what ?04:56
vi11eSionide: the file wasn't there until today so04:57
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da_bon_bonSionide: i meant how will u know u will get the cd tomo ?04:57
Sionideeh?04:57
Sionidedamn my ubuntu cd coming yesterday  <--- yesterday, not tomorrow04:57
Sionidei got it yesterday in the post :)04:57
da_bon_bonah, ok04:58
membreyahow do you check if DMA is enabled? particularly on a DVD drive?04:58
da_bon_bonLinuxJones: hello!04:58
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msg43how do I install the kernel source or headers? I need them for ndiswrapper04:58
da_bon_bonLinuxJones: btdownload.gui is fine04:58
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Banditmembreya what are you running your dvds through05:01
Aquilahello05:01
Aquilai need drivers for my usb modem?05:01
membreyaBandit: mplayer05:01
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Banditdont like mplayer but with xine you simply type xine-check and it tells you about dma05:02
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da_bon_bonwhats the comamnd line untar for .tar.gz ?05:04
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mjrxzf05:04
upsda_bon_bon: tar zxf <filename>05:04
da_bon_bonups: thanks :)05:05
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upsda_bon_bon: np :)05:05
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Aquilahelp?05:08
Aquila:)05:08
da_bon_bontar: vmware-distrib/bin/vmware-uninstall.pl: Cannot change ownership to uid 201,  gid 201: Operation not permitted05:09
vi11ehahah, my wine programs goes totally freezed if I have azureus running05:09
da_bon_bonwhats the meaning of this error ?05:09
vi11eda_bon_bon: maybe you don't have permission to change things you try change05:09
da_bon_bonvi11e: i am untarring a tarball of vmware as root.05:10
vi11eye, donno then05:11
da_bon_bon:(05:11
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da_bon_bonso, 60mb download wasted ?05:11
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vi11eyou tried to untar in console and x windos both05:11
vi11egnomme05:11
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vi11ehmm tito where you from?05:11
kwisis there any hot key to kill gnome display manager instead of restarting like ctrl-alt-bkspace?05:12
vi11e*.ad , never seen such ending :)05:12
da_bon_bonvi11e: yes..05:12
vi11esomeone probably knows but is in idle at the moment, I suggest you repeat your question few times later05:12
titospain05:12
thoreauputicda_bon_bon: I've seen that with some programs - it wants to set the user: usually it will stilla work fine - have you tried?05:13
vi11eoh... what's that *.ad in your host05:13
acidmaxdi need an advice. we have a big LAN here and some servers with music/movies/etc... the problem is that at a given time too many users are trying to download files from one server or another, thus it is very slow (50-100 kb/s per user over 100 MBps network). the servers are accessible through FTP, HTTP and Samba.05:13
titohi05:13
titois andorra05:13
da_bon_bonthoreauputic: but it still doesnt untar certain required files :(05:13
titobetwen spain and france05:13
Banditkwis do you mean like logout?05:13
membreyatrying to enable DMA on my DVD drive and I'm getting an error message :(05:13
membreya/dev/hda:05:13
membreya setting using_dma to 1 (on)05:13
membreya HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted05:13
membreyaanyone able to help ?05:13
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thoreauputicda_bon_bon: try chown -R user:user for the lot05:14
acidmaxdi've tried to limit the bandwidth per user with cbq/htb, but then the speeds has become even slower05:14
thoreauputicto change the uid and gid05:14
kwisBandit: my old monitor died and my new one doesnt support the refresh, so I need to get to the command line, since I have no display just an error on the monitor that it wont support the refresh rate05:14
thoreauputicthe -R makes it recursive05:14
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da_bon_bonthoreauputic: for the tarball ? and user:user or root:root ?05:14
titoville can you help me formating a usb stick05:14
Aquilaanyone know where i could get drivers for my usb modem?05:14
thoreauputicda_bon_bon: probably root:root05:14
acidmaxdi don't what to do: mod_throttle on all apache servers?05:14
thoreauputicda_bon_bon: but I don't know vmware05:15
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titoin the fdisk /dev/sda105:15
Semt-XMoin05:15
da_bon_bonthoreauputic: thanks anyway, didnt work :(05:15
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titowhat is necessery to do?05:15
thoreauputicda_bon_bon: did you do it on the tarball or the unpacked directory?05:16
da_bon_bonthoreauputic: chown ? on the tarball05:16
thoreauputictry it on the directory05:16
membreyadoes anyone know why I can't enabled DMA?05:16
klaymhello! what should I write on the command thing in sessions startup menu, if I want a terminal-based application to run at startup? The application I want to be run at startup is Torsmo, so if I just write 'Torsmo' as command, it won't probably open05:16
da_bon_bonthoreauputic: ok.05:16
thoreauputicyou might find some subdirs are the wrong uid:gid05:17
membreyaklaym: it will open :)05:17
da_bon_bonanyone here installed vmware from tarball ?05:17
klaymmembreya: o05:17
klaym*ok05:17
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sander__Anyone having trouble with the latest OpenOffice.org on Hoary?05:19
Banditsander__ what kind of trouble?05:20
viper12what type?  I just finished installing hoary to laptop.......can test.05:20
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da_bon_bonOOo 2.0 , sander__ ?05:20
vi11ehey... how do I close this wine window that has fully freezed? I have tried to kill all wine processes but the window won't shut. the processes goes zombie. I also tried to end one gnome terminal-bash process but it doesn't close that wine window05:20
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membreyagah05:21
membreyaI just rebooted05:21
jblackville: try xkill05:21
membreyaand I still can't change the DMA05:21
titoroot@ubuntu:/mnt/win2k # mount -a05:21
titomount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1,05:21
tito       or too many mounted file systems05:21
tito       (aren't you trying to mount an extended partition,05:21
tito       instead of some logical partition inside?)05:21
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sander__Just the latest 1.1. I just moved over from Debian and whenever I try to open the docs I created before writer just shows a completely blank window.05:21
vi11eohhhhhhh, nm... in system monitor, instead of end process I chose "kill process" and it killed.. wonder why it didn't kill it in terminal with killall that applet05:21
viper12hmm justa sec sander.05:21
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viper12ms word doc?  xml? anything in particular?05:22
titoi try to format this device /dev/sda105:22
sander__I copied them over from my Windows box that I stored my docs on while I upgraded my laptop so they might have been mangled by samba/nautilus.05:22
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fuflohey. is there rc.local on ubuntu?05:23
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sander__These are all native OOo docs. They open fine on my Windows box.05:23
viper12hmm.......I just opened an old ms word doc fromy my ntfs part..............not a problem.05:23
thoreauputicfuflo: not really05:23
fufloso..05:23
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thoreauputicfuflo: nearest thing would be /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh I would say05:23
fuflowhere can i put some commands to run when booting?05:23
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fuflohm05:23
fuflook.. gonna try..05:23
thoreauputicfuflo: see above05:23
sander__Hmmm, OK. Maybe something else happened to the docs in transit. thanks Bandit ad_bon_bon and viper1205:24
viper12np sander.........gl on that.05:24
sander__BTW is OOo 2.0 in the ubuntu repositories somewhere?05:25
viper12speakin' of OO........any idea when hoary gets the newer rev?05:25
viper12lol sander05:25
sander__Well why not. :)05:25
viper12ditto that sentiment........was just a day jaaa vooo moment.05:25
viper12:D05:25
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viper12I'm pooped, and daytona 500 is coming up pretty soon, but damn I love this distro.05:26
vi11ehey does that bittornado-gui have a multiple torrents download inside one window?05:26
HiddenWolfville: no05:27
HiddenWolfsander__: it's in hoary universe05:27
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vi11epff, so it's like the one thats integrated to gnome?05:27
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HiddenWolfville: use the terminal version of bittornado: it works fine.05:27
viper12azureus is still the way ta go, imho.05:27
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vi11ewhat torrent-clients there is available in apt-get that has this "many torrents in one window" ?05:27
vi11ebesides azureus05:28
HiddenWolfville: btlaunchmanycurses in a terminal05:28
sander__HiddenWolf, thanks.05:29
vi11ehmm, any guied bt client with such support as azureus?05:29
HiddenWolfville: no05:29
HiddenWolfsander__: it's buggy tho05:29
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viper12wolf......what's buggy?05:30
Echy|pythonis there something with archive.ubuntu.com05:30
Echy|pythonhaving troubles with it05:30
Echy|python:s05:30
Echy|pythonseems that I can't connect05:30
sander__HiddenWolf, thanks for the warning. I think it can co-exist with 1.1 so I don't mind the bugs for now.05:30
HiddenWolfviper12: OOO205:30
viper12ahh.......eyes crossed on posts there. lol. ty05:30
HiddenWolfubuntu.com is suffering maintenance. it'll be down a short while05:30
titowho can i format a memory usb? with fdisk?05:30
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Echy|pythonow :)05:30
viper12and yep.  I was reading about v2 earlier...not quite ready for prime time yet.05:30
Echy|pythonthanks HiddenWolf05:31
fuflohm.. how can i obtain kernel source? the latest one.. its needed by nvidia :/05:31
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segehmm, bluetooth-mouse in ubuntu, anyone been there done that?05:31
segefuflo: kernel.org05:31
fufloi cant find it on pkg list..05:31
HiddenWolffuflo: you don't need it.05:31
fuflohm..05:31
fufloyes ido05:31
fufloi need 6111 nvidia05:31
fuflocause 6629 doesnt work for me05:31
fufloworks buggy*05:32
fuflowhateva..05:32
membreyadoes ANYONE know why I can't enable DMA on my DVD drive?05:32
HiddenWolffuflo: force the version in apt-get05:32
kwisok I got the monitor working, was in the faq :)05:32
fuflohm..05:32
fufloHiddenWolf: whats the flag? ;)05:32
HiddenWolffuflo: I prefer synaptic.05:32
fuflooh05:32
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Pellewhats up with archive.ubuntu.com?05:33
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fufloeh.. HiddenWolf its disabled.. :/05:33
mz2how do i modify the apps assigned for different mime type05:34
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thoreauputicPelle: maintenance05:34
mz2the default apps05:34
Pellethoreauputic, do you know when it will be back online?05:34
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Echy|pythonpelle, within a short time05:34
Echy|pythonhave patience05:34
thoreauputicPelle: no - HiddenWolf might know05:34
HiddenWolfPelle: should be shortly, they're just installing some extra hardware/bandwith05:34
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PelleHiddenWolf, they do this regulary?05:35
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HiddenWolfPelle: no, they needed to make infrastructure changes because the server park was very overloaded lately.05:35
tux_um...05:35
tux_whats the default pass for ipp printing on port 631 ??05:36
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LinuxJonestux_, cat /etc/services | grep ipp05:37
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LinuxJonestux_, that file lists all the ports that common services listen on05:38
boleroplease tell me how to get into freenode channels!!!05:38
tux_i know that05:38
Echy|pythonbolero05:38
Echy|pythonyou are in freenode channels05:38
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tux_when i log in on 127.0.0.1:631 to config it, it requires a pass05:38
Echy|pythonthis is a channel05:38
thoreauputicbolero: you're in one now :/05:38
Echy|pythontype /list for a list of channels05:38
HiddenWolfbolero you're on freenode, but do /j #channelname to join another one.05:38
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Kal_Zakathhi05:39
fesjahi05:39
bolerook, but i cannot connect to channel #Asterisk05:39
Kal_Zakathare archive servers down ?05:39
HiddenWolfEchy|python: dont be cruel, that list is massive. :-)05:39
HiddenWolfkal_Zakath: yes, maintenance05:39
Kal_Zakathfuck off05:39
PelleHiddenWolf, sorry to bother you. about archive.ubuntu.com - are we talking minutes or hours here?05:39
Echy|pythonsorry hidden :p05:39
Kal_ZakathI need it now05:39
Echy|pythonbut it's kewl05:39
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thoreauputicKal_Zakath: well, too bad05:39
Kal_Zakathis there any mirror I can use for hoary ?05:39
Echy|pythonKal_Zakath, you may fuck off as much you won't, it won't get archives up05:40
fesjawhat program can i use to write on utf8 and see the text on iso ?05:40
Echy|pythonwil*05:40
Echy|pythonoh my05:40
Echy|pythonfucked up sentence05:40
Echy|pythonnvm05:40
HiddenWolfPelle: considering it's not something smallish, nor childish hardware, prepare for hours. Likely shorter tho.05:40
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MSG43were can I find a iso of ubuntu05:40
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Pelleokay05:40
MSG43I mean ubuntu hoary I need a iso of that05:40
viper12aisle 4 MSG05:40
viper12;)05:40
Kal_Zakathhow long this maintenance will last ?05:40
viper12couldn't resist05:40
Echy|pythonKal_Zakath, <HiddenWolf> Pelle: considering it's not something smallish, nor childish hardware, prepare for hours. Likely shorter tho.05:41
pussfellerhow do you search the depostiroty05:41
Xappewb tritium05:41
thoreauputicKal_Zakath: can you read?05:41
Kal_Zakathdidn't saw it05:41
Kal_Zakathwell05:41
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HiddenWolfMSG43: check the wiki for hoary / array 5 iso's05:41
Kal_ZakathI'm in the shit05:41
erlendok i just upgraded to hoary. i have some small issues. first, i can't play any sound with oss. it just tells me that /dev/dsp is busy. however, i can use the esound daemon to play sound.05:41
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ttfhi all, is archive.ubuntu.com usually pingable?05:41
Kal_Zakathi'm really deeply in the shit05:41
HiddenWolfttf: it's down for maintenance05:42
Kal_Zakathwhere are mirrors ????05:42
Kal_Zakathisn't there any mirror ???05:42
MSG43yeah that why I need a mirror05:42
titosorry can't consulte in web the documentation can help me?05:42
thoreauputicKal_Zakath: umm... moderate your attitude. please05:42
ttfHiddenWolf: k - thanks05:42
tritiumXappe, hey there05:42
boleroKal_Zakath: '''05:42
Kal_Zakaththoreauputic: well, it's a real pb, this maintenance is really at the worst moment for me, I'm really upset05:43
tritiumIt's been a while05:43
dc17I have an apt-get question about multiverse and universe...05:43
viper12somebody oughta change the subject of the room to : ubuntu archive down fer fixin' or something. ;)05:43
klaymis there some custom panel system out there for ubuntu gnome?05:43
Kal_Zakathbut there isn't any mirror ????????????05:43
kwiscustom panel system? elaborate?05:43
Kal_Zakathhow can this be possible ?05:43
dc17I want some software from universe, but I don't want dist-upgrade to use universe so ...05:43
hawkedc17: universe is not an upgrade05:43
klaymkwis: yea, something to the style of macosX05:44
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dc17I've been disableing universe after installing the deb.  Is there a better way to do this?05:44
hawkedc17: It's additional stuff, you can just leave it on.05:44
tux_um.. whats the default pass for cups ipp on 127.0.0.1:631 ??05:44
tritiumdc17, you don't have to dist-upgrade to use universe05:44
hawkedc17: There should never be stuff in both universe and main05:44
thoreauputicdc17: just leave it in05:44
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pussfellertux_: ussually its root05:44
kwisklaym: well Ive never used osx so I wouldnt know. But do you mean themes or what?05:44
dc17if universe is enabled, dist-upgrade won't add a ton of extra @#$%?05:44
hawkedc17: correct05:45
tux_pussfeller, tried that05:45
MSG43does anyone know when the ubuntu site will be back up05:45
pussfellertux_: but I dont know how ubuntu handles that since it doesnt use root05:45
Kal_Zakathhey, can anybody telle me where I can find a mirror ???????05:45
membreyadoes ANYONE know why I can't enable DMA on my DVD drive?05:45
viper12I'm in the same boat as tux on that one.  nothing works.05:45
HiddenWolfMSG43: NO ETA on that, yet05:45
hawkedc17: dist-upgrade and upgrade both ony install new versions, they don't install extra stuff unless the new version depends on it05:45
dc17good.  I had a debian install that added kde once after messing with the sources.list and doing a dist upgrade :(05:45
pussfellertux_: I think you need to use one of the guis for printer configuration05:45
vi11eanyone tried ABC on ubuntu05:45
membreyaI'm getting major losses between audio and video playing dvd's on mplayer05:45
SiRrUsKal_Zakath relax05:45
Kal_ZakathSiRrUs: nope, I need to install stuff, NOW05:45
Kal_Zakathit's really important05:46
Sionidehm im having trouble getting any kinda network connection now..05:46
tux_pussfeller, thats what i am usin05:46
viper12puss......that's all good until you want to administer a net printer and such.05:46
vjazvi11e, what's ABC?05:46
SiRrUsKal_Zakath yep so do I but guess your out of luck for awhile05:46
tux_it lets me on, but when i try to add printer etc,,.05:46
hawkedc17: You might be better off doing an upgrade rather than dist-upgrade05:46
dc17thanks for the info05:46
tux_its asks for login/pass05:46
vi11ebittorrent client05:46
Kal_ZakathSiRrUs: there isn't any mirror around ????05:46
hawkedc17: dist-upgrade will pull in new stuff if the new version requires it, upgrade will not.05:46
dashoh, ubuntu.com /is/ down. okay good to see it isn't my imagination :)05:46
vi11eit was the best one in windows, they have a linux version sources05:46
SiRrUsKal_Zakath no05:46
HiddenWolfKal_Zakath: there are mirrors around, just search05:46
Kal_ZakathI'm thinking about falling back to debian if this is the case05:46
dashKal_Zakath: heh. did you try googling for "ubuntu mirror"? :)05:47
SiRrUsKal_Zakath like i said take a pill and relax05:47
Kal_ZakathHiddenWolf: and you of course can't telle me where the are05:47
LinuxJonestux_, the web interface for cups is disabled05:47
MSG43any one have mirros to hoary ubuntu05:47
vjazDamn it. Is ubuntu.com down?05:47
membreyavi11e: I use azureus :)05:47
MSG43vjaz: yes05:47
dashvjaz: apparently so05:47
HiddenWolfSiRrUS: there are mirrors, but the wiki is overloaded, so I can't get to it. :P05:47
vjazdamn it05:47
pussfelleranything that important would have sources around you  could manually compile in a pinch05:47
thoreauputicKal_Zakath: stop being obnoxious, please05:47
tux_LinuxJones, what does that mean,05:47
hawkemight be a good idea for someone to put the mirror in the subject(s)05:47
vi11edamnz, does anyone know any bt-client handling multiple torrents in the gui other than java-based azureus?05:47
hawkethe -> a05:47
HiddenWolfUbuntu.com is down for maintenance, will be back up shortly05:47
Kal_Zakaththoreauputic: what does it mean ?05:47
apokryphosvjaz: Didn't know that site existed. What's on there?05:47
HiddenWolfville: none for gtk05:47
tux_LinuxJones, im using the web interface at the mo05:47
dashUS mirror: http://ubuntu.mirrors.tds.net/ubuntu/05:48
vjazapokryphos, it's the official site05:48
tritiumgnome-btdownload05:48
HiddenWolfvjaz: main archives, developer resources, etc.05:48
fufloHiddenWolf: well i checked force version.. and.. isnt that 6111 for kernel 2.6.8.1?05:48
tux_LinuxJones, "Printer on localhost - CUPS v1.1.21.rc1"05:48
apokryphosvjaz: Erm, that's ubuntulinux.org05:48
Kal_Zakathdash, is it for hoary too ?05:48
fufloi dont think itll work on 2.6.1005:48
vjazapokryphos, just try it when it's up05:48
HiddenWolffuflo: I don't know, I don't use nvidia drivers05:48
vjazapokryphos, they're both official05:48
fuflo:/05:48
apokryphosvjaz: I guess they both forward you to the same site. Both down.05:48
vjazyep05:48
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fuflothen again.. how can i obtain current kernel sources? :)05:49
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tritiumvi11e, gnome-btdownload is in Hoary05:49
socketbindhowdy, i need to convert a bunch of pngs to tga no matter there is no compression in it05:49
thoreauputicKal_Zakath: dict says:  " Offensive; odious; hateful; "05:49
titohow can i move archives easily betwen win and ubuntu05:49
dashhttp://64.233.187.104/search?q=cache:XmNbmphb-KMJ:www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Archive&strip=1 <-- cache of mirror list05:49
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vi11ehmm, the one that is implemented in hoary tritium ?05:49
tritiumvi11e, yes, it is in Hoary.05:49
titowith a memorystick05:50
vi11ebut how do I open many torrents in one window with it?05:50
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Kal_Zakaththoreauputic: well I'm just really upset05:50
socketbindi looked for it, but haven't find anything useful, i would need some nice console based batch image converter05:50
vi11eI thought I tried it tritium , but it opened every thread in own window05:50
tritiumvi11e, don't know.  Never tried.05:50
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dashsocketbind: imagemagick ought to do05:50
dashsocketbind: with its 'convert' program05:50
BanditKal_Zakath yeah you said that allready05:51
Fator_Deeis there something wrong with the repositories?05:51
MSG43were do I download ubuntu hoary05:51
socketbindheh thanks dash, funny that i used imagemagick before and didn't remembered05:51
HiddenWolfUbuntu.com is down for maintenance, will be back up shortly05:51
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MSG43I didn't under stand the wiki05:51
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BanditMSG43 read the channel topic05:51
Fator_DeeHiddenWolf: thanks, my friend was quite worried, just installed ubuntu and not being able to install anything :-)05:51
Bandithttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases   get array-505:52
titoplease how can i format usb stick with fdisk05:52
MSG43Bandit: that mirror is down05:52
tritiumHiddenWolf, it's simply maintainence?  Are they changing to the new website design?05:52
dc17 tito: usb drives usually show up as /deb/sdaX05:52
BanditMSG43 then I guess you will need to wait untill maintenance as been completed also05:52
HiddenWolftritium: maintenance / upgrade05:53
dc17tito: do you really need to reformat it?05:53
titoi try fdisk /dev/sda105:53
tritiumHiddenWolf, thanks.05:53
viper12vi11e     check this site:    http://www.tim-project.org/clients.php regarding bittorrent clients05:53
MSG43Bandit: is possble to get the source easily for ubuntu warthog?05:53
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zultito: fdisk /dev/sda05:53
titoyes because the partition is created for win05:53
tritiumXappe, what's new?05:53
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dc17tito: linux can read windows paritions fine05:53
GIMP666ok i seriously need help, i get confused with the Terminal codes05:54
GIMP666how do you install RPMs?05:54
HiddenWolfdc17, writing on ntfs sucks tho05:54
titoand the archives?05:54
vi11eviper, maybe a typo in the address? doesn't find the host05:54
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vi11eviper12:05:54
thoreauputicGIMP666: ubuntu uses debs, not RPM05:54
cardadorGIMP666: normally you want debs, not rpm, altough its possible to install them05:54
viper12hang on.05:54
Sionidei cant get ubuntu to like my d-link dwl-660 wireless card.. :s anyone gimme a hand?05:54
dc17tito: yes.  I'm assuming it's fat16 ro fat32 on the usb memory stick05:54
titoin the menu who format...05:55
Sionidedan_ this is what i meant about not doing any work :P05:55
GIMP666i know ubuntu doesn't normally use rpms, just some programs only have rpms, i can find05:55
viper12http://www.tim-project.org/clients.php05:55
kwisdash: thanks for the mirror list :)05:55
HiddenWolfAt 4pm GMT today the *.ubuntu.com machines will be going down for a05:55
HiddenWolfcouple of hours for some essential maintenance of our Internet05:55
HiddenWolfconnection. This will affect: archive.ubuntu.com, www.ubuntu.com,05:55
HiddenWolfbugzilla.ubuntu.com, upload.ubuntu.com etc.05:55
HiddenWolfThe work is intended to both upgrade and improve the redundancy of our05:55
HiddenWolfInternet link to hopefully reduce the number and/or frequency of05:55
HiddenWolfoutages like this in the future. Apologies for any inconvenience.05:55
thoreauputicGIMP666: install alien05:55
GIMP666aight05:55
dc17HiddenWolf: you write nfts in linux?  Yikes, I use it read only ;)05:55
thoreauputicGIMP666: sometimes works fine:  alien <nameof rpm>05:55
titoyes the memory is formated in win05:55
membreyawhats SSDP? Also I received an auth request from an external IP on port 113? :\05:55
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HiddenWolfdc17: I ditched my last windows partition beginning of this year.05:56
GIMP666thoreauputic, thanks05:56
pussfellerwhats the name of the package that has gcc and such for compiling05:56
dc17Sionide: do you know what chipset is in the card?05:56
thoreauputicGIMP666: but if you don't have the dependencies, it won't work05:56
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GIMP666it worked05:56
thoreauputicGIMP666: ah - good :)05:56
GIMP666:D05:56
MSG43hiddenWolf: so the site still down or should it be up?05:57
viper12okay that's frickin' wierd..........try this v1.........googl these two words:  bittorrent linux.05:57
Sionidedc17, where would i be able to find that info out? (eg. what type of thing am i looking for?)05:57
viper12should be the second link on the page.05:57
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membreyacan anyone tell me what SSDP is ? apart from Super Secret Debian Project...why is firestarter blocking it ?....the source is my own IP05:57
Seiken`anyone else having problems connecting to ubuntulinux.org?05:57
HiddenWolfMGS43: will be down for a few hours05:57
HiddenWolfSeiken' Down for maintenance05:57
dc17Sionide: I think lspci should list the card05:57
viper12damn we need a subject change here. lol05:57
Seiken`ah, ok05:57
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dc17Sionide: if the wiki wasn't down, I'd look there first05:58
Seiken`anywhere else I can download warty?05:58
dc17Sionide: let me check google.05:58
Sionideam looking too05:58
vi11eahh viper12 it was tlm-project you had tim-project05:58
klaym$HOME/.folder  <- does this mean this:  /home/user/.folder05:58
Xappetritium, well, not much. still fighting with polypaudio...05:58
Sionidehttp://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=d-link+air+dwl-660+linux&btnG=Search05:58
thoreauputicklaym: yes05:58
viper12oh good gawd.  lol.........did I mention tired?  heh heh.05:58
klaymok thx05:58
giardanyone having trouble with archive.ubuntu.com or is it just me?05:58
viper12down.05:59
membreyagiard: it's down05:59
Kal_Zakathkewl, I found a fast working complete mirror05:59
bluefoxicyapt is parallel now?05:59
bluefoxicy0% [Connecting to archive.ubuntu.com (82.211.81.138)]  [Connecting to people.ubuntu.com (82.211.81.132)] 05:59
dashbluefoxicy: it's pretty much always been parallel when pulling from different archives05:59
bluefoxicyo.o05:59
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Kal_Zakathbluefoxicy: never noticed that ?05:59
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bluefoxicyno05:59
tritiumXappe, me too...I'm not even bothering with it for now.05:59
bluefoxicynormally it downloads so fast06:00
bluefoxicyi guess the internet is down today06:00
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GIMP666i'm having trouble making my printer print. It auto detected it, and i have it set up, but it doesn't wat to [print06:00
tritiumbluefoxicy, ubuntu.com is down for maintenence06:00
bluefoxicytritium:  ah06:00
HiddenWolftritium: that's my line! :P06:00
membreyawhat the ....firestarter is reporting connections from my network that don't exist >:\06:00
Xappetritium, no, feels like it's not worth the effort. thin i'll buy a cheap sound card capable of hardware mixing instead06:00
viper12vi11.........I didn't realize this, but it looks like ABC is a good client.  python based.06:00
tritiumHiddenWolf, heh, but I see you're busy trying to get the topic changed :)06:01
bluefoxicyXappe:  I recommend an audigy06:01
GIMP666NVM on my q06:01
bluefoxicyXappe: $70 max06:01
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tritiumXappe, I'm building a mythtv box this week.06:01
bluefoxicy(if only we had some good EAX utils and soundfont loading stuff)06:01
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funtohello06:01
HiddenWolftritium: exactly why I hate to hang out in channels where I don't have ops. :-P06:01
tux_are the ubuntu servers down06:02
tux_they are very slow ?06:02
DeanGIs it possible to associate Window/Command key associations in ubuntu?06:02
viper12down tux06:02
tritiumHiddenWolf, yeah.06:02
tux_:(06:02
membreyatux_:  down06:02
tritiumtux_, yes, maintenence06:02
HiddenWolfAt 4pm GMT today the *.ubuntu.com machines will be going down for a06:02
HiddenWolfcouple of hours for some essential maintenance of our Internet06:02
HiddenWolfconnection. This will affect: archive.ubuntu.com, www.ubuntu.com,06:02
HiddenWolfbugzilla.ubuntu.com, upload.ubuntu.com etc.06:02
HiddenWolfThe work is intended to both upgrade and improve the redundancy of our06:02
HiddenWolfInternet link to hopefully reduce the number and/or frequency of06:02
Xappebluefoxicy, well, that's a bit too much for me...thin i'll go for a sb live for now, so I can afford a 300 GB hdd as well06:02
GIMP666tux_, yes down06:02
HiddenWolfoutages like this in the future. Apologies for any inconvenience.06:02
membreyaplease daniels ...change the darned topic!06:02
Xappe*think06:02
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bluefoxicyXappe:  sure, the sb pci512 is nice value for being a stripped emu10k106:02
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dc17Sionide: it looks like that's a lucent orinico chipset06:03
Xappebluefoxicy, as long as I get rid of the freakin' soundservers ;)06:03
Sionideah i saw something about the driver for that06:03
selinium_hi guys, Could someone check the file servers, ie hit reload on synaptic manager. It doesn't seem be working on my machine. Cheers06:03
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dholbachselinium_, the servers are down for maintenance06:04
Sionidehttp://linux_wless.passys.nl/06:04
Sionideon there...06:04
Aquilaanyone know where i could get drivers for my usb modem?06:04
thoreauputicmembreya: if daniels is at home. I expect he's sleeping (4 AM here)06:04
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Seiken`anyone know a mirror off-hand where I can get a warty iso?06:04
dc17Sionide: I think that might be the prism driver06:04
Sionidethat page refers you to here:06:04
Sionidehttp://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/Orinoco.html06:04
membreyathoreauputic: good to see another aussie on here :P06:04
Xappetritium, mythtv box?06:04
dc17Sionide: reading that ow06:05
tritiumhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1621806:05
dc17er now06:05
thoreauputicmembreya: :)06:05
Sionideshall i download it?06:05
tritiumXappe, PVR06:05
membreya...but dialup ?06:05
membreyaewww06:05
viper12just did a search of 'torrent' and warty on google..............there's a bazillion trackers out there. ;)06:05
Xappetritium, ah, so you'll have a standalone tuner box?06:05
selinium_dholbach: Cheers! is there a page to check the stautus on ubuntu?06:05
tritiumXappe, yes.  It should be fun06:05
bluefoxicy<@Psyda> I just heard that canada is going to be sending upto 30 troops into iraq to train iraq forces.  We can fit them all in the same herc06:05
bluefoxicy<Bluefox> Psyda:  how long before they send the other half of their army too?  :)06:05
GIMP666who uses warty still?06:05
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dholbachselinium_, no06:06
Seiken`viperl2: haha, ok.. I tried, but guess my search terms were less than adequate06:06
thoreauputicGIMP666: I do :)06:06
bluefoxicysynaptic should offer to switch to Hoary when Hoary is stable06:06
GIMP666i use hoary06:06
dc17Sionide: I think what you need will be included with Ubuntu06:06
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viper12gimp...........I do.  hoary only lives on a test box.06:06
Xappetritium, mhm06:06
Sionidealright, sounds good06:06
selinium_dholbach: cheers, www.ubuntu.com is down aswell, i think.06:06
dc17Sionide: are you running warty or hoary06:06
Sionidewarty06:06
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=== thoreauputic thinks warty is up to date enough for his needs
dholbachselinium_, *.ubuntu.com is down for maintenance06:06
nanophasehi06:06
bluefoxicyhttp://www.math.hmc.edu/calculus/tutorials/linearsystems/  o_O06:07
GIMP666viper12, i live on the danger side, everything on my xp is beta/alpha and unstable same with most things i have on unbuntu06:07
bluefoxicyI don't get it.06:07
membreyathoreauputic: ...you just dont want to have to download anything :P06:07
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dc17Sionide: when you run lspci do you see anything about your card?06:07
selinium_dholbach: cheers for your help06:07
viper12actually, I'm jonzing for a couple of features that are in hoary........but that's just the techn-weeny in me.........warty is smooth as silk....and on the main box its solid. (more important than beta-jazz, imho.)06:07
dholbachselinium_, de rien06:07
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thoreauputicmembreya: heh - when I installed I downloaded a gig in a few days on dialup ;)06:07
thoreauputicmembreya: once is enough06:08
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Sionideok lets start from the beginning, i plug it in and get a power light on it, thats a good sign06:08
fschas anybody played around with the Xgl server?06:08
Sioniderun lspci06:08
HiddenWolfthoreauputic: I download gigs every day ;)06:08
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viper12I hear you gimp........but I play with the hoary stuff on a box that can be trashed........had xand-reck on it yesterday...heh heh06:08
selinium_Can anybody help me install a file from a download? I am trying to install nestra. Have downloaded the tarball... No what do i do?06:08
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GIMP666lol06:09
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thoreauputicHiddenWolf: well, on 56k that would be difficult I think :)06:09
Sionidehm dont see anything in there about d-link06:09
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GIMP666Sionide, what bout d-link?06:09
dc17Sionide: ok how about lucent, orinoco, wavelan etc06:09
W3BMAST3R101is it just me or are some of the ubuntu servers down?06:09
krism.ignore *!*@*.aol.com06:09
W3BMAST3R101for package updating06:09
viper12down w3b............maintenance.06:09
krismdammnit06:09
membreyaW3BMAST3R101:  down06:09
zulthere down06:09
W3BMAST3R101ok i have been troubleshooting for the past 30 min06:09
SionideGIMP666, just trying to get my d-link dwl-660 working on ubuntu06:09
W3BMAST3R101that was my last conclusion :-P06:10
GIMP666mine works fine06:10
membreyazul: ...the internet is no excuse for laziness...it would be "they're down" gah ..bad english06:10
Sionidehow did you see it up?06:10
GIMP666Sionide, I use dwl-660 as well and nothings wrong06:10
fscviper12, my reason to going to hoary is because a lot of stuff uses wxWidgets and it looks like ass without the gtk2.x bindings06:10
Sionides/see/set06:10
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GIMP666i didn't have to configure or snything06:10
GIMP666anything*06:10
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thoreauputicmembreya: heh - a fellow pedant, I see ;)06:10
Sionidehm06:10
Sionide:s06:10
Sionidedc17 not sure06:10
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membreyapedantacism is not a flaw...facetiousness maybe :P06:11
GIMP666but I am putting in a new d-link in, di-604. dwl-660 sucks for gaming06:11
zulmembreya: whatever06:11
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viper12fsc...nods.  I write and do some video stuff with it...........surf, normal shiz........so for me warty is 'good' enough on the 'its gotta NOT crash" side. ;)06:11
Sionidewell06:11
thoreauputicfacetious pedantry perhaps?06:11
Sionideif i go to network config and set up a new connection06:11
Sionidechoose wireless, go through that06:11
W3BMAST3R101when will the server be back up? or does it say on the main site?06:11
viper12a few hours w3b.06:12
dc17Sionide: yes06:12
membreyahehe thoreauputic :)06:12
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Sionideif i activate it, it either crashes the network-admin prog or just de-activates it06:12
selinium_W3BMAST3R101: the main site is down aswell!06:12
dc17Sionide: do you see the wireless card there?06:12
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thoreauputicmembreya: I don't believe the word pedantacism exists - corect me if I'm wrong ;)06:12
=== Sionide is quite newbish at present btw
thoreauputic*correct06:12
membreyaif I want a program to terminate at a set time should I just cron it?06:12
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membreyathoreauputic: shhhhh ....my secret :P06:13
GIMP666I have had ubuntu for 2 months, and I'm still newbie at it06:13
membreyaGIMP666: as long as you can open IRC you're set :)06:13
Fator_DeeI'd say you are always a newbie with linux, too much to learn it all :-|06:13
Sionideif i plug in the dwl-660 and reboot, will it recognise it on boot up?06:13
viper12the cool thing about linux and distros...........due to the constant influx of new stuff.........we're ALL noobs about one part or another of it.  heh eh06:13
GIMP666membreya, yea i know :P06:13
Sionidemembreya, aye that the truth :P06:13
dc17Sionide: not sure06:14
selinium_thoreauputic && membreya: pedantisn is the correct word!06:14
Sionideaint*06:14
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thoreauputicSionide: one way to find out...06:14
Sionidedc17, is it worth a try?06:14
Sionideheh06:14
Sionideyeah06:14
GIMP666membreya, but not everybody knows stuff, like how to install quicktime4lniux06:14
selinium_thoreauputic && membreya: pedantism06:14
paoany problem with archive.ubuntu.com?06:14
fscviper12, i haven't had any crashes yet, and the upgrade went a lot smoother than i expected.  in fact, if i would have just upgraded my kernel at the same time as the initial upgrade to hoary i even wouldn't have had my initial problems with ndiswrapper...now i'm ready for major crashes if I compile this xgl server06:14
dc17Sionide: when I installed hoary, my wireless nic didn't show up until I installed the "non-free" kernel drivers06:14
thoreauputicselinium_: pedantry I think you'll find06:14
membreyaselinium_: I bow before you :D06:14
Sionidenon-free?06:14
dc17Sionide: I mean "restricted" kernel drivers06:14
membreyathoreauputic: http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=pedantism06:14
selinium_http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&q=Pedantism06:15
membreya:P06:15
Sionideif the worst comes to the worst i can just use the wired connection, it's not a huge problem..06:15
viper12fsc.......I agree to a point.........I'm running the latest kernel and hoary array5 on the test box......but....when it comes to the writing........a 300 page novel does NOT go on anything labelled "unstable". ;)06:15
Sionidewireless would be nice though06:15
paohi all can you connect to archive.ubuntu.com?06:15
viper12pao.....down...maint.06:15
membreyapao: dowm06:15
viper12lol06:15
paothanks06:15
selinium_membreya:  you got there before me!06:15
viper12np06:15
apokryphosarray 5?06:15
apokryphosDidn't know that was out.06:15
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thoreauputicdict pedantry06:15
thoreauputicpedantry06:16
thoreauputic       n : a ostentatious and inappropriate display of learning06:16
thoreauputicboth may be correst06:16
thoreauputiccorrect06:16
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membreyaPedantism06:16
membreya\Ped"ant*ism\, n. The office, disposition, or act of a pedant; pedantry06:16
Sionideon 1:TEXT:*ubuntu.com*: say the servers are down j00 foo'06:16
tux_has anyone configured an epson stylus c-62 printer ?06:16
viper12lmao with this pedantic talk. ;)06:16
selinium_Can anyone help me install from a tarball? Always used synaptic before...06:16
dc17Sionide: I'm sure you can get the wireless to work.  Unfortunately the wiki is down for maintenance so I can't look up how to do this.06:16
thoreauputicmembreya: both are acceptable, evidently :)06:16
membreyaselinium_: tar xzf tarball.gz06:17
membreya./configure06:17
membreyasudo make06:17
Sionidedont worry dc17, im just trying rebooting with it plugged in and seeing what happens, if no luck - i'll wait till the wiki comes back up06:17
membreyasudo make install06:17
apokryphosmembreya: the sudo in "sudo make" isn't necessary06:17
fscviper12, i guess the real issues are how stable in decreasing order are the kernel, X, gtk+, and then individual apps. if the apps you use to write your novel are bleeding edge then yeah, you should be worried06:17
thoreauputicactually only `make install` requires sudo...06:18
apokryphosyup06:18
selinium_membreya: I have used linux for 5 days now! I will give it a go!06:18
membreyaapokryphos: ...again a force of habit :P06:18
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thoreauputicbad habit! ;)06:18
membreyaselinium_: ...14 days :P06:18
dc17Sionide: OK. Sorry I couldn't be more help.  I've been working with madwifi based cards lately.06:18
thoreauputichehe06:18
Sionidedc17, dont worry, glad you even tried to help :)06:18
viper12yep........but after being in the tech biz for 18+ years......its more habit that the box for everyday use isn't beta-bomb material....although in the linux world that's saying a lot more than in MS-land.06:18
apokryphosNot so much of a problem on Ubuntu, but on other distros where you do su -c instead, I think it would cause problems.06:18
Sionideubuntu doesnt like rebooting either it seems06:19
Sionideit closes down06:19
Sionidebut doesnt power back up again06:19
selinium_membreya: I am obviously not a quick on the uptake as yourself [lays prostrate on floor]  :)06:19
Sionide(the power light stays on though)06:19
membreyathoreauputic: would you believe...using super user excessively is not a bad thing :P06:19
Sionidei have to do it manually06:19
dc17Sionide: this is probably an apm vs acpi thing06:19
membreyaselinium_: i'm just being obsessive about it ..just ask my girlfriend :P06:19
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martinaldhi ubuntu.com is down06:19
viper12yep06:19
martinaldjust joking =] 06:19
viper12main06:19
thoreauputicmembreya: if you believe that, Sir, you'll believe anything  *grin*06:20
dc17Sionide: the wiki has lots of suggestions for particular laptops06:20
apokryphosmartinald: It is.06:20
martinaldi thought i'd be a concerned person06:20
dc17Sionide: I switched to hoary because it has better powermanagement for my thinkpad06:20
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selinium_membreya: i too have been preaching the wonders of ubuntu, i wish i had discovered linux 5 years ago!06:20
Sionidehummm06:20
Sionidejust an idea06:20
membreyathoreauputic: up until ubuntu I was an avid and zealous M$ supporter ....of course I will believe anything06:20
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Sionidei have mac filtering on my wireless router06:20
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Sionidebut it's the mac address of the actual device isn't it06:20
martinaldmac filtering is so useless06:21
Sionideeg. it won't have changed from my windows set up ?06:21
thoreauputicmembreya: ah - a convert then? zealous?06:21
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herzimartinald: it's more usable than WAP06:21
herziWEP06:21
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viper12I'm still an M$ supporter........as a tech.........as long as m$ stuff is out there..........I've got income. ;) hee hee06:21
martinaldlololol06:21
martinaldsorry06:21
Sionidestrange06:21
martinaldbut the MAC addresses travel in plaintext06:21
membreyaselinium_: I used FreeBSD 5 years ago as a junior network admin...but after 5 years I have forgetten everything except ls06:21
e-Jahlut/hi06:21
martinaldso it takes about 3 seconds to find the mac address and clone it06:21
martinaldvs 24 hours of packetsniffing for WEP06:21
Sionidemartinald, i dont need much security, i doubt anyone around here is gonna war drive me...06:21
herziWEP is plain xor, just listen and wait for a http header to come...06:21
martinaldexactly, neither do i, so i dont bother with wireless security06:22
membreyamartinald: WEP is easy to break ...WPA is da bomb06:22
martinaldno it's not06:22
martinaldWPA is cracked aswell06:22
herzimembreya: link?06:22
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membreyaherzi: link for what? :P06:22
Sionidemac filtering is enough to stop my neighbours pc keep on trying to pc to my router.. heh06:22
tux_is there a gimp-print-cups for ubuntu ?06:22
herzia link about wpa06:22
martinaldsionide: why don't you just let them?06:22
martinaldaks them to pay half of your internet bill06:22
tux_doesnt seem to be in synaptic, maybe its named differently ?06:22
selinium_membreya: i used to use an old language called MVS on mainframes.... My brain still hurts!06:22
Sionidethey have their own06:23
Sionidethey're just idiots06:23
thoreauputictux_: try apt-cache search gimp-print06:23
Sionidein the end i switched channels06:23
Sionidei run on channel 1 now, they're on 1106:23
Sionidesolved everyones problems06:23
membreyathoreauputic: sorry for the delay zealous Pronunciation Key  (zls)06:23
membreyaadj.06:23
membreya    Filled with or motivated by zeal; fervent.06:23
Sionidedc17, when i tried it just then i did see the wireless device as eth1 so thats a good thing...06:23
Sionidejust when i try and activate it06:23
Sionideit doesn't wanna go06:23
dc17Sionide: be patient, sometimes the gui hangs in warty06:24
thoreauputicyes, I was enquiring about your new-found zeal for linux ;)06:24
dc17Sionide: or try sudo ifup eth106:24
membreyaSionide: what does ifconfig say?06:24
membreyait _should_ be wlan0 :\06:25
Sionided'oh, i just enabled the wire connection06:25
Sionidehang on06:25
thoreauputictux_: cupsys-driver-gimpprint  perhaps06:25
tux_heehee have it ready06:25
tux_thx06:25
thoreauputictux_: cool06:25
tux_servers are down, just my luck :P06:25
thoreauputictux_: when in doubt, apt-cache search06:25
membreyathoreauputic: I have everything working under linux, bittorrents, dvd, tv in, tv out06:25
tux_aye06:25
thoreauputicmembreya: impressive :)06:25
membreyaI just have to learn to transcode divx to mpeg to write to DVDs and I'm set06:26
tritiummembreya, are you using mythtv by chance?06:26
membreyatritium: tvtime for my tv-in :)06:26
tritiumah, okay06:26
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Sionidedc17, what did that do? it says now "Ignoring unknown interface eth1=eth1"06:26
membreyathoreauputic: not impressive, just stopped being stupid and researched things..plus I'm pretty lucky that most of my hardware works :)06:27
selinium_membreya: did the tar xyf thing but the ./configure command errored:bash: ./configure: No such file or directory06:27
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titohelp me with fdisk06:27
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titoplease06:27
selinium_mebreya: what did i do wrong?06:27
membreyaselinium_:  then that means there is no configure file06:27
ompaulAFKtito, what do you want to do?06:27
membreyatito: whats up?06:27
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titofdisk /dev/sda106:27
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membreyastill trying the USB disk tito ?06:28
WillCookeapokryphos77, Hello06:28
titojei yes06:28
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dc17Sionide: that means eth1 isn't in /etc/network/interfaces06:28
tito"con un par de huebos"06:28
apokryphos77WillCooke: Was bugging me for some time, but eventually sorted the problem, so no worries. ;)06:28
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Sionideok ok if i do "ifconfig eth1"06:29
Sionideit comes up with the device06:29
Sionidethe right mac addy and everything06:29
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titoin the fdisk i need to create a filesystem y need to move archives win>ubuntu06:30
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apokryphos77WillCooke: Though, out of interest. Say if another user on my comp were to use a BT, would they have problems, or what? (considering that I have the port forwarded to me)06:30
membreyawb thoreauputic :)06:30
thoreauputic:)06:30
thoreauputiccaffeine beckoned...06:30
dc17tito: if you fdisk the usb you might not be able to read in windows06:31
titoand the problem is in the mount06:31
membreyaapokryphos: if you have port forwarding set to your IP then there will be no problems with using BT06:31
apokryphos77WillCooke: Whoops; *another user on the network06:31
dc17tito: get the drive to work in windows and it should work fine in ubuntu06:31
ompaultito have you data on it from windows?06:31
dc17Sionide: so it shows up but doesn't work?06:31
membreyaapokryphos: ...that becomes a problem, you will need to set a different port range on their BT client and create a new rule on your router06:31
WillCookeapokryphos77, You'd need to configure the BT client on the other machine to use a different port, and then forward that port to the IP address of the other machine.  Another user on your computer would be fine06:31
Sionidedc17, i reckon so yeah06:31
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dc17Sionide: I think someone said that it was supposed to be wlan0 or something06:31
titoi format in windows to NTFS06:32
membreyaWildRabbit: get your own answers :P06:32
dc17Sionide: so I think it might be detected wrong06:32
membreyaWillCooke: even!06:32
membreyagrrrr06:32
estebandidomorning06:32
membreyadamn lazy TAB06:32
Sionidedc17 yeah membreya did but it comes up on eth106:32
estebandidoor afternoon, as the case may be06:32
titowith command convert i: /FS:NTFS06:32
tuxadermistIs there something wrong with the Repositories ?  Can't seem to connect06:32
apokryphos77WillCooke: Right. Thanks.06:32
Sionideand i can choose it, as a wireless device when setting up a network connection06:32
apokryphos77tuxadermist: Yeah; the site is down.06:32
Sionideand thats all ok06:32
ompaultito did you format it in windows?06:32
dc17tito: can you reformat it in windows to fat?06:32
apokryphos77tuxadermist: I'd suggest trying later.06:32
Sionidethen when i activate it, it takes a while then doesnt work06:32
estebandidocan someone tell me how to quit the X11 server?06:32
thoreauputictuxadermist: maintenance06:32
tuxadermistlovely i just installed too06:33
membreyadc17:  I had the same problem, it was because my computer wasn't getting a DHCP address.  Have you tried configuring it manually06:33
taurendilHas anyone got the gamecon.c module to work for an NES controller?  It's driving me nuts!06:33
titoi am reformating in windows06:33
thoreauputicestebandido: sudo /etc/init,d/gdm stop06:33
titofat16?06:33
estebandidoexcept i can'06:33
membreyaFAT32 tito :)06:34
ompaultito, as  dc17 said - format it as fat partition and move data to it and then bring it with its data to ubuntu06:34
estebandidot get to the command line06:34
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membreyathoreauputic: sudo killall gdm06:34
goldfishcan u write to an ntfs partition from ubuntu?06:34
membreya:P06:34
membreyagoldfish: no06:34
dc17tito: fat16 or fat32 should be fine06:34
thoreauputicmembreya: yes, but not the debian way - too sudden and harsh!06:34
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estebandidoi do cntl-alt-delete, and X quits, but then it immediately restarts06:34
missmarplhi06:34
thoreauputic;)06:34
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membreyathoreauputic: I live life on the edge06:34
skel_homeis archive down?06:35
membreyaskel_home: yes06:35
Sionideskel_home, yes06:35
dc17Sionide: membreya had a good idea about trying to set an address manually06:35
skel_homek06:35
thoreauputicmembreya: well, the power switch will kill X too ....06:35
skel_homedoes ubuntu not have any mirror repositories?06:35
membreyathoreauputic: ...that's different :P06:35
tux_whats a good linux client for yahoo messenger06:35
membreyathoreauputic: ...where's your power switch? :P06:36
skel_hometux_: gaim06:36
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membreyatux_: gaim06:36
missmarpltux_: there is a linux client from yahoo06:36
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apokryphostux_: Kopete ;-)06:36
estebandidois there a screenshot of the hoary login screen?06:36
goldfishgaim is nice06:36
membreyaestebandido: looks no different to warty ;)06:36
tritiumgaim is nice if you don't care about video chatting06:37
skel_homegaim is one of the most developed projects on sf =P06:37
thoreauputicmembreya: hidden in a jumble of untidy cables...06:37
estebandidooh... i can't see it, because x.org has the screen all messed up06:37
skel_homes/most developed/most active06:37
membreyathoreauputic: ... I didn't say your computers' power switch06:37
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goldfishvideo chatting?06:37
goldfishhrmmm....06:37
Xappei hate gaim myself. i mean do they call that awaymess. handling?06:37
goldfishWhat clients support video chattin?06:37
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skel_homeXappe: thats pretty customizable..06:38
thuxserver doesn't answer apt-get update?06:38
tritiumgoldfish, gnomemeeting06:38
skel_homegoldfish: gnomemeeting06:38
goldfishcool06:38
goldfishthanks06:38
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Sionidehrrmmmm06:38
Xappeskel_home, well, i've not managed to get rid of that annoying away mess. box06:39
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membreyatritium: ...lunch at 4.40 am?06:39
estebandidohow do i quit X and make it stay quit? it keeps restarting06:39
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nanophaseestebandido /etc/init.d/xdm stop06:39
nanophaseor gdm06:39
ompaulit is 17:46 pm, how often do I have to tell ya you all need to reset your clocks :)06:39
nanophaseor kdm06:39
membreyaestebandido: /etc/init.d/gdm stop06:39
estebandidobut i can't get to the command line!06:39
thoreauputicestebandido: did you do tha commands as writen above?06:39
dholbachestebandido, ctrl-alt-f106:40
thoreauputicestebandido: you login06:40
estebandidoi can't log in, because the screen is all messed up06:40
thoreauputicname > enter . password06:40
thoreauputic?06:40
membreyathoreauputic: facetiousness is one of your stronger traits I see :P06:40
nanophaserestart then, driver is bad06:40
apokryphosHmm, I could have sworn I installed xorg and selected it as the default upon installation, but a "top" tells me XFree86 is running.06:40
nanophasemy radeon drivers look shitty sometimes aswell06:40
estebandidoi've restareted repeatedly06:41
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estebandidodholbach: that worked, thanks06:41
apokryphosIs there a quick way to change back to xorg? xorg-common is installed06:41
membreyananophase: ...that would be the card :P06:41
estebandidonow i have to solve the real probelm06:41
yccheokhad anyone switch from fedora family to ubuntu before?06:41
apokryphosyccheok: Yup; me.06:41
yccheokwould like to hear some of urs opinions ;)06:41
ompaulokay a little problem there I had not got nptdate running - it is actually 17:41 :)06:42
thoreauputicmembreya: http://users.fishinternet.com.au/~peterg/dil-unix.gif ( I look a bit like the unix guy)06:42
estebandidocan anyone direct me to pointers on refresh rates?06:42
Aquilaanyone know where i could get drivers for my usb modem?06:42
apokryphosyccheok: I found Ubuntu faster, and has far better apt sources because of the Debian backbone. I prefer Ubuntu, easily.06:42
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nanophasemembreya don't really think so06:42
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viper12lmao thoreau  good un06:43
yccheokapokryphos: oh! i thought most of the app are distributed in rpm package? that's why till now, i hvnt try on ubuntu06:43
thoreauputic:)06:43
membreyananophase: notice the emoticon at the end of my line of text? I loved my radeon until it died and I have to replace it with a GeForce06:43
apokryphosyccheok: In Ubuntu, nope, though it can handle RPMs.06:43
membreyathoreauputic: ...that so does not surprise me06:43
Slikehello, i just changed my sources.list (apt) to the one from ubuntuguide.org....but it hangs when i perform an apt-get update06:43
membreyaSlike: servers are down06:43
Slikeare there any mirrors or something?06:43
nanophasemembreya don't think I would ever do that. went for this laptop because it had radeon06:44
skel_homeapokryphos: except that the repository is down right now =P06:44
Slikemembreya: for how long?06:44
apokryphosskel_home: Shh :P06:44
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encKe`could someone fill me in on how to change default sound device?06:44
membreyaSlike: until they're back up?06:44
thoreauputicmembreya: heh - sed awk groff grep !06:44
apokryphosSlike: Shouldn't be too long; I'd recommend trying again in an hour or so.06:44
Slikeok thx06:44
thoreauputicmembreya: as the caveman said...06:44
yccheokapokryphos: so far, did u find any packages which u can install in fedora, but not in ubuntu?06:44
dc17does apt have a way to see what file a package belongs to?  similar to rpm -qif /path/to/somefile?06:44
skel_homeso I can't even get to www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/  are there any mirrors for the archive or is this distro have a single point of failure?06:45
viper12encke......right click volume control........'open volume control'.  then......'file', "change device".06:45
apokryphosyccheok: Nope. Ubuntu repos are easily larger. Even better repos for KDE apps on Ubuntu, as far as I can see.06:45
encKe`ahhh.... sounds easy enough06:45
encKe`thx viper1206:46
Aquilaanyone know where i could get drivers for my usb modem?06:46
apokryphosyccheok: Also, the other plus is of course that you only ever have to install the Distro once, and all upgrades are done through apt. :)06:46
Aquilapm me06:46
viper12had to do that after the last hoary update.........switched to oss, and that donnna' work for me. :)06:46
skel_homeAquila: how the hell are we supposed to know if we don't know what modem you have?06:46
yccheokapokryphos: oh, i thought yum also have the capability to do tat :)06:46
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membreyathoreauputic: so, since you're such an avid geek and obviously have a penchant for the obscure...tell me why I can't enable DMA on my DVD drive?06:46
yccheokapokryphos: i cannt wait to try out ubuntu coz i had bitten several time of my fedora hang :(06:47
apokryphosyccheok: Heh, that would surprise me, but I'm sure it might be the case.06:47
SlikeAquila: search for eci adsl06:47
ompaulwhat is it with being strung out on a particular package - if people said what job they wanted a package for then OSS would be out infront by so many light years imho (not that I am humble but you know :))06:47
viper12lmao......I was WONDERING when you'd bring that one back up again membreya. lol06:47
apokryphosyccheok: It's very easy to get started on Ubuntu, which is of course a very good thing. Once you've installed it see Ubuntuguide.org for all configuration etc.06:47
membreyaviper12: gave everyone a break and waited to see who knows what :P06:47
viper12lol06:47
membreyaviper12: ....are you stalking me?!06:48
yccheokapokryphos: i will try it out once i get a new hard disk or i can experimented in my gf computer ;)06:48
viper12yeah, membreya.............yeah...........muhahahhahahhaha.  lol06:48
apokryphosyccheok: Good luck. :)06:48
yccheokapokryphos: i have several projects nw in fedora, that's why i still wont try it yet :D06:48
thoreauputicmembreya: I take it you tried hdparm?06:48
membreyaviper12: so YOU'RE the one in the van across the street06:49
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yccheokapokryphos: hw about the hardware support? last time i had try a long time to make my 3D card works in fedora06:49
membreyathoreauputic: ya sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hda06:49
viper12damn...discovered again.........drives away mumblin........06:49
Aquilawell06:49
ompaulyccheok, well what makes you think you could not do those projects better on ubuntu?06:49
Aquilathe modem is BT Voyager06:49
AquilaADSL06:49
thoreauputicmembreya: umm - your dvd drive is unlikely to be /dev/hda06:49
membreyathoreauputic: I get HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted06:49
apokryphosyccheok: Funnily enough, I found it real easy in Fedora. There's step-by-step on the guide.06:49
apokryphosyccheok: *Ubuntu06:49
membreyathoreauputic: trust me it is, my harddrive is /dev/sda as it's a SATA drive :)06:50
thoreauputicah -I see06:50
yccheokompaul: coz those projects had already been configured nicely in fedora. it would take a long time to re-configured it again in ubuntu06:50
apokryphosyccheok: In FC3 it was a hassle for me; had to manually download the nvidia drivers from the site, then go in failsafe etc.06:50
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encKe`viper12, when i open "volume control" under file all i get is "quit"06:50
membreyamembreya@diab:~$ dmesg | grep hda06:50
membreyahda: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-108, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive06:50
membreyahda: ATAPI 63X DVD-ROM DVD-R CD-R/RW drive, 2000kB Cache06:50
HiddenWolfFC3 is sucky. :-P06:50
thoreauputicmembreya: OK OK - I believe you ! *grin*06:51
apokryphosHiddenWolf: It's not a bad distro, but, well, it's not Ubuntu. :)06:51
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skel_homeAquila: after 30 seconds of googling.. i found this -> http://www.thecaretaker.org.uk/drivers/btvoyager/btvoyagerlinux.htm06:51
skel_homeAquila: have you tried that?06:51
HiddenWolfapokryphos: it's as windows as linux can get, that's what makes it bad. :-P06:51
viper12no encke.......the icon top menu bar.  select volume control.  will open a dialog box.  then under file........(oh wait...........enck, you running warty or hoary?06:51
membreyajust I'm getting major loss between video and audio on an AMD64 3200+ w/ 512mb DDR....something that shouldn't happen06:51
viper12gads........sorry encke.....that's the 'hoary' volume app.06:51
encKe`hoary06:52
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apokryphosHiddenWolf: Hehe, yeah. I think nowadays they're primarily aiming to get the masses in. Aims are quite different to those of slack/debian/gentoo06:52
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apokryphosHiddenWolf: And, of course, dragging in the masses means GUI and user-friendly galore.06:52
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marcin_antHiddenWolf: I don06:53
marcin_antHiddenWolf: don't understand06:53
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Aquilaskel_home  yes i have seen that06:53
marcin_antHiddenWolf: why FC3 is bad because is more like windows...06:53
viper12encke: my bad...........again.......tired...the laptop has two 'audio' devices....therefore the choice.06:53
erlendhello. is there a way i can edit my gnome menus in hoary? after upgraded, i cannot access applications:/// anymore06:53
Aquilaabit complicated..?06:54
marcin_antHiddenWolf: (or maybe I misunderstood you)06:54
membreyathoreauputic: I assume you are off using all of your cognative skills and creating a solution for me ? :P06:54
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skel_homeAquila: oh, I'm sorry, so you want something really easy.06:54
Aquilaofcourse lol06:54
Dr_willisHmm. anyone recall what is the command to set the console font?  The default is NASTY on my laptop - wanting to try out the others in the consolefont dir06:55
skel_homeAquila: well I have to go run some errands.. good luck on that.06:55
marcin_antDr_willis: you are lucky :)06:55
HiddenWolfmarcin_ant: Fedora is like windows in the fact that it has bloat, bloat, and more bloat, little choice, and lots of things I don't like about it. Not to mention instability.06:55
marcin_antDr_willis: I think I can help you06:55
Aquilaok thanks lol06:55
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viper12encke, which sound devices are you referring to? (hardware or software mixing?)06:56
marcin_antDr_willis: console = gnome-terminal for you?06:56
Dr_willisgoogleing is showing 'setfont' - but that command aint there. :) checking the init scripts to see how its changeing them..06:56
Sionideoh dear, that's sad06:56
BanditI have heard the same abount Ubuntu ;)06:56
Dr_willismarcin_ant,  no.. the actual CONSOLE :P not under X06:56
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SionideGnometris, first time i played - scored 26,383 :s06:56
Dr_willisthis is a P100 laptop - it can barely handle gnome.06:56
HiddenWolfBandit: compared to slackware/gentoo, yes ofcourse. :_)06:56
thoreauputicmembreya: I fear you overestimate both my cognitive ekills and my geekiness ...06:56
encKe`sorftware mixing , viper1206:56
thoreauputicheh ekills/ skils06:57
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membreyathoreauputic: damnit you showed me a picture..you had a bear..A BEARD!06:57
thoreauputicI kind of like ekills though06:57
thoreauputicindeed06:57
viper12you may want to check the config editor as well. there are choices under system for audio06:57
marcin_antDr_willis: ooooh then I don't know...06:57
membreyaerrrr bear = beard06:57
Frossihile, is there any alternative repositories for archive.ubuntu.com and security.ubuntu.com because they are not responding. Im using warty06:57
membreyaI was over amorous06:57
encKe`kzm, will do06:57
thoreauputicI have a beard, and unruly unkempt long hair as well06:57
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thoreauputicmembreya: I fit the stereotype?06:58
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membreyathoreauputic: if you are slovenly and unkempt ...then yes ;)06:58
dc17Dr_willis: For hoary I added vga=0x317 to the grub boot parameters06:58
Aquilaanyone know where i could get drivers for my BT voyager ADSL modem?06:58
viper12of course, if you only have one 'mixer' set installed.......(alsa, oss, es, etc.) then you'd havta install another.06:58
marcin_antDr_willis: I had simmilar problem under X and I reconfigured fontconfig - but I can't help with console06:58
thoreauputicmembreya: I plead guilty on both counts, you Worship06:58
Dr_willisdc17,  well i rember there was an actuall command that set the font . no need to reboot ect. :P06:58
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thoreauputic*your06:59
membreyathoreauputic: I worship what?06:59
membreya;)06:59
thoreauputicI'm also a lousy typist06:59
xulin-byyyeee06:59
Dr_willisit used to be 'setfont' - you can set the default console font in a config file.. but i cant figure out how/what its running to change them lol.06:59
membreyayour pedantry is failing you young padewan06:59
kwisAquila: http://www.thecaretaker.org.uk/drivers/btvoyager/btvoyagerlinux.htm06:59
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thoreauputicmembreya: indeed, I am hoist with my own petard ...06:59
viper12time to bail..............the engines are about to be started.........daytona 500 in a few minutes.............woooooooooot!!!!!!!!!!!!!06:59
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marcin_antHiddenWolf: I don't know anything about FC instability - but about other things I don't like all I can say that there is the same about ubuntu - ubuntu and fedora it's still linux07:00
PelleDr_willis, there is a list at http://www.antlinux.com/staticwiki/VgaModes.html07:00
membreyathoreauputic: petard, how apt :)07:00
viper12astas all...........til later.07:00
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dc17Dr_willis: consolechars?07:01
membreyathoreauputic: enough banter, fix my damned problem!07:01
membreya:P07:01
marcin_antHiddenWolf: for me the only difference is that on ubuntu I got "bleeding edge" hoary while FC is not so up to date07:01
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thoreauputicmembreya: I fear I am not yet ready to leave the temple....07:01
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thoreauputicmembreya: I cannot take the pebble from your hand...07:02
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hmmmmmmhttp://lol.schaetec.de07:02
hmmmmmmhttp://lol.schaetec.de07:02
hmmmmmmhttp://lol.schaetec.de07:02
Dr_willisdc17,  lol - just discovered tht - by reading the scripts. :P07:02
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membreyathoreauputic: well do you experience any loss between vid and audio when watching DVDs?07:02
Dr_willishehheh  now i got a readable font. yea.07:02
segesomething like debians non-free repository, does it exist in ubuntu? looking for unrar-nonfree07:02
kwiswell that was stupid07:02
HiddenWolfsege: universe / multiverse07:02
HiddenWolfsege: it's all there07:02
thoreauputicmembreya: no, because I don't watch videos and have no DVD :)07:03
segeHiddenWolf: i have universe07:03
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membreyathoreauputic: I grow more and more disillusioned07:03
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segeadding some multiverse then07:03
thoreauputicmembreya: it gets worse the older you get, I fear...07:03
membreyathoreauputic: I have 39.5 gb of music videos and 30 gb of videos/tv episodes07:03
Echy|pythonlol07:03
segeHiddenWolf: there it was, thanks.07:03
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membreyathoreauputic: I'm 25...there is no getting older.... :'(07:04
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thoreauputicmembreya: I'm old enough to be your father, old boy :)07:04
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apokryphosUbuntulinux.org is up again, btw07:04
ompaulit now gets ./ed by the channel I don't think :)07:05
MSG43hi I need hlep setting my wireless card up. I installed ndiswrapper and modeprobe ndiswrapper07:05
membreyathoreauputic: my father is like 1,000,000,000 years old!07:05
membreyaok ok, 52 this year :P07:05
tuxadermistwoot, synaptic time07:05
MSG43I used the gui network think to setup my internet but I still can't get on I'be gotten on with other dirstors07:05
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apokryphosAnd now it's down again.07:05
apokryphosergh07:05
ruinahi guys! why I cant login in X as root, only login in X as user??07:06
thoreauputicmembreya: I'm a year older than your father (1,000,000,001 years by your reckoning)07:06
membreyaapokryphos: you will burn in the deepest level of hell for that07:06
segeruina: good07:06
apokryphosheh07:06
tuxadermistnice i am in the middle of an upgrade hehe07:06
membreyaruina: cos there is no root?07:06
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Ribsruina: root account isn't active on ubuntu, use sudo07:06
paulproteusruina: Root has login disabled in ubuntu.07:06
Echy|relaxand if you want to root07:06
Echy|relaxtype sudo -s07:06
thoreauputicruina: because logging in to X as root is verboten07:06
Echy|relaxforbidden07:06
Echy|relax:p07:06
ruinahummm thanks!07:07
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HiddenWolfthoreauputic: that's a german touch. :-P07:07
nanophaseor do as I did. boot with init=/bin/bash, passwd, reboot07:07
Echy|relaxthoreauputic, you are german?07:07
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thoreauputicruina: not to mention dangerous07:07
Infiniting-es07:07
membreyaruina: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#allowrootlogingnome07:07
thoreauputicEchy|relax: not last time I looked, no07:07
ompaulmembreya, your simple statement about your father was 19230769 times wrong07:07
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thoreauputicmembreya: don't encourage him!07:07
membreya:D07:07
ruinamembreya, thanks for guide!07:07
Echy|relaxso why you say verboten?07:07
Echy|relaxthat's not english07:08
Echy|relaxneither french or dutch07:08
Echy|relaxbut german07:08
thoreauputicEchy|relax: indeed07:08
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thoreauputicI'm aware of that, thanks anyway07:08
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MSG43 hi I need hlep setting my wireless card up. I installed ndiswrapper and modeprobe ndiswrapper I've used the ndiswrapper and I still can't get on the internet07:09
membreyaich bin vom deutschen Erbe07:09
Echy|relaxik van dor nevest07:10
williamapt-get isn't working for me, my computer won't connect to *.ubuntu.com. any solutions?07:10
thoreauputicEchy|relax: I could have said tabu, as well - that's Fijian, but I'm not Fijian07:10
marcin_antMSG43: what chipset?07:10
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Echy|relaxk07:10
membreyaWilliam: servers are down07:10
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Echy|relaxbut it's strange in the middle of a sentence07:10
Dr_williswilliam,  i noticed it just now also - servers are down it seems07:10
Echy|relaxnvm07:10
ompaulwilliam, have a look at the file /etc/apt/sources.list07:10
MSG43it I think texas instermeants07:10
Echy|relaxuseless discussion07:10
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MSG43marcin_ant my card has worked with ndiswrapper before07:10
ompaulwilliam, it needs to be edited07:11
membreyaEchy|relax: it's 5.10am, be happy he has an skills beyond breathing07:11
williamokay07:11
thoreauputicEchy|relax: well, I'm a strange person - don't worry about it :)07:11
marcin_antMSG43: you installed windows driver?07:11
carajeananybody here use cedega or point2play?07:11
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Echy|relax:D07:11
MSG43marcin_ant yes07:11
MSG43ndiswrapper is working07:11
membreyaMSG43: check your dmesg...it should say the chipset07:11
MSG43I need help configuring it though07:11
skel_homeok so.. anyone got a mirror I can use for ubuntu or know how long archive is going to be down? If anyone knows why its does or ETA maybe put it in /topic?07:11
tuxadermistdamn, all the ubuntu related sites are fubar'ed.  Cant even kill time dl the newer Hoary07:11
williamompaul: what to edit?07:11
marcin_antMSG43: it is visible in ifconfig?07:11
membreyaor do an lspci07:11
MSG43marcin_ant: yes it is visable07:11
goldfishI have changed my root password, and my login password, but when i try to su to root, it is only accepting my old root password and I dont know what I have done wrong :/ should it not be accepting my new root password?07:12
ompaulWilliam remove the # infront of the repositries07:12
SiRrUsthey are up now07:12
membreyaSiRrUs speaks the truth!07:12
SiRrUs;) always07:13
williamompaul: never mind, it's working now. thanks anyway07:13
marcin_antMSG43: then run network-admin and configure this interface07:13
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membreyaapokryphos: take a lesson from the truth sayer07:13
titohi07:13
membreyawb tito how did you go?07:13
marcin_antMSG43: it this configured with this tool?07:13
MSG43marcin_ant will try07:13
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pugiohey07:13
MSG43I configure with the networking tool in gnome07:13
pugioI have 2 (Ubuntu) questions07:14
membreyasweet sweet nicotine *drools*07:14
titoi formated the disk in win2000 (FAT32) and i added archives07:14
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Echy|relaxhow do you make a file executable?07:14
pugiothe first: When I install someting through synaptic, how can I add it as a menu item in my GNOME menu?07:14
membreyapugio: you're only allowed one per session07:14
Echy|relaxa sh file?07:14
goldfishmembreya: lol07:14
Sionidehm07:14
apokryphosEchy|relax: chmod a+x <filename>07:14
Echy|relaxthankies07:14
pugioand... I'm trying to get Rosegarden to work07:14
Sionidehow do i upgrade firefox to 1.0 ?07:14
thoreauputicEchy|relax:  chmod =X07:14
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membreyaapokryphos: wrong ...again :P07:14
titoafter i connect the usb in this pc whith ubuntu07:14
pugiohas anyone gotten rosegarden to work on ubuntu?07:14
thoreauputicbah chmod +x07:14
apokryphosPyre: help07:14
Pyreapokryphos: Commands:07:14
Pyre%anagram  %dict  %google  %recall  %remember  %whois07:14
Echy|relax%anagram07:15
thoreauputicSionide: download the binary from mozilla.org and install it07:15
apokryphosmembreya: Erm, nope. ;)07:15
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pugioanyone? Rosegarden on Ubuntu?07:15
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apokryphosEchy|relax: ;) %anagram someword07:15
MSG43marcin_ant so I just type in network-admin in the terminal?07:16
membreyaapokryphos: pugio was wanting to know how to edit the menus in nautilus :P07:16
pugioyeah, that too07:16
arbeckdoes anyone know a way to edit a *.iso image?  I want to add a file to it07:16
membreyaoh ..ROFL07:16
membreyayou were answering another07:16
thoreauputicpugio: its' in universe IIRC07:16
apokryphosmembreya: I didn't say anything to dear pugio07:16
membreyagod I need sleep07:16
apokryphos:p07:16
Sionide%anagram gui07:16
johaBBamembreya, no you don't07:16
Dr_willisarbeck,  not really seen a tool to do that under linux. Other then mounting it..copying stuff over to a dir. then adding/remaking the iso image.07:16
johaBBasleep = no computer time07:17
pugiothoreauputic: yeah, but it's not working07:17
thoreauputicah07:17
Dr_willisI do belive i saw a tool that can do that under windows called "isobuster" - not sure how it does it however. :(07:17
pugiothoreauputic: I added the universe component, but it doesn't seem to work07:17
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membreyajohaBBa: my girlfriend has no problems with that comment :P07:17
thoreauputicpugio: you reloaded/updated?07:17
johaBBaheh07:17
johaBBamine just bopped me on the head....07:17
pugiothoreauputic: well, I just installed th elatest version last night07:18
johaBBagotta go....07:18
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pugiothoreauputic:  and I got a bunch of errors when starting it, something about looking for synthesizer - anyway, I just removed it, now I'm trying it again07:18
membreyaunder ubuntu is there any way to throttle the upload/download speeds of certain ports?07:19
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Sionideugh i hate being a noob07:19
dc17 /quit07:19
thoreauputicpugio: apt-cache search timidity perhaps07:19
thoreauputicfor sequencer07:19
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ompauland there was me going to dcc a ^H to dc1707:19
pugiothoreauputic: that might be it, let me check07:19
apokryphosSite really is up now.07:19
goldfishSionide: aye it sucks07:19
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membreyaSionide: everyone is a newbie at some stage07:20
skel_homeanyone in to cad stuff?07:20
skel_homebrl-cad is awesome07:20
pugiothoreauputic: I got libsdl-mixer1.2 and libsdl-mixer1.2-dev07:20
pugiothoreauputic:  but I'mm not really sure what to do - you want me to install that?07:21
pugioI'm not very familiar with the apt* system yet07:21
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thoreauputicpugio: I have no idea, sorry - just suggested timidity as I kanow it does sequencing etc07:21
pugiook, let me try07:22
membreyaoptus do DSL ? :\07:22
membreyahah there you go07:22
ompaulokay question, how much value would there be in grabbing the contents of the channel to create answers that would be searchable in a db, with the semi obvious proviso about privacy07:22
membreyathoreauputic: you're not answer my questions very well today :P07:22
thoreauputicmembreya: yes, optus do dsl - badly07:22
Sionidethoreauputic, what dir should i install it in? (i mean where do progs usually go on linux, equiv of "program files"?)07:22
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thoreauputicSionide: apt-get/synaptic take care of all that automagically07:22
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pugioompaul: that would be awsome07:23
ompaulso a question gets asked - gets answered07:23
membreyaompaul: if everything here was documented, I would stop having the semblence of knowledge07:23
thoreauputicSionide: this isn't windows07:23
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Sionidei know...07:23
Sionidesynaptic didnt wanna upgrade07:23
Sionideit just wanted to reinstall07:23
apokryphosSionide: Try again now. Repos seem to be up.07:23
thoreauputicyour sources.list may be fubar07:23
pugiothoreauputic: Ok, I got the message it's "waiting for Sequencer to come up"07:23
ompaulmembreya, now you know yourself that is not true :)07:23
carajeanwhat was the shortcut to switch between desktops??07:24
membreyaompaul: stop hurting my head..it's coming up to 5.30 am07:24
thoreauputicpugio: most binaries land in /usr/bin07:24
ompaul membreya it is 18:24 :)07:24
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Echylohi07:25
pugiothoreauputic: right... but?07:25
membreyaupdate your damn clock :P07:25
Sionidewhat do i do to make it upgrade? :s07:25
pugiothoreauputic: would it not work if the sound wasn't working on Ubuntu07:25
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pugiowhich, I need to fix also07:25
thoreauputicpugio: to find them just type `whereis myapp`07:25
pugiothoreauputic: I'm not missing any binaries, as far as I know07:25
membreyaunder ubuntu is there any way to throttle the upload/download speeds of certain ports?07:26
thoreauputicpugio: how is a midi app going to work without configured sound?07:26
pugiothoreauputic: well, I just wanted to start it .... oh never mind, I think I'll probably need ALSA07:26
pugiowhich I don't know how to enable on Ubuntu either07:26
marcin_antMSG43: yes - but sudo or gksudo network-admin07:26
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arbeckIs there a way to open a windows self extracting zip?07:26
thoreauputicpugio: normally it's configured by default - sounds like your sound card wasn't recognised or something07:27
Sionidesynaptic doesnt think firefox needs upgrading, when it does :s07:27
pugiothoreauputic:  well, it's an nforce2 AC9707:27
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pugiothoreauputic: the device tree thing shows it as taht07:27
pugiothoreauputic: which is correct07:27
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apokryphosarbeck: Sure. You should be able to just get the "zip" app from apt.07:27
marcin_antMSG43: or system -> administration -> configure network devices and connections07:27
membreyaSionide: running warty or hoary?07:27
Sionidewarty07:28
membreyathat's why ;)07:28
Sionide...oh07:28
goldfishdo apt-get07:28
goldfishworked for me07:28
membreyaSionide: when you do an apt-cache search on firefox what's it say?07:28
membreyais it in the repo?07:28
nanophasedoes anything in gnome work there guys that needs root authorization?07:28
thoreauputicSionide: I told you a while ago - the latest warty version isn't 1.0 - easiet to install from mozilla.org07:28
nanophaseasks me for password but tells it's not valid07:29
nanophasejust curious07:29
Sionideyeah i got that far07:29
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carajeancan someone tell me the shortcut to switch between desktops???07:29
Sionidethen when i asked where to install it to, you said synaptic would do it?07:29
nanophasecarajean you set it up in preferences/key shortcuts07:29
tuxadermistanyone play Americas Army ?07:29
Sionide/etc/mozille-firefox07:30
Sionidethere?07:30
thoreauputicSionide: oh - I see - no, the binary you can install in your home directory or anywher07:30
thoreauputicSionide: then you can make a launcher for it07:30
carajeanthank you nanophase07:30
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nanophasenp07:31
thoreauputicSionide: sorry - I didn't realise you were refering to the binary07:31
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jerome_stixhy07:31
jerome_stixI need some help07:32
membreyaunder ubuntu is there any way to throttle the upload/download speeds of certain ports?07:32
membreyawe all do jerome_stix07:32
thoreauputicSionide: the command field for the launcher should have the full path - so type in for instance /home/Sionide/Firefox/firefox or wherever it is living07:32
jerome_stixSomebody can help me about speedtouch adsl07:32
jerome_stixI have a problem with hotplug07:33
Banditjerome_stix usb?07:33
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thoreauputicSionide: sorry to confuse you like that07:34
vi11ewhat is totem-xine ?07:35
jerome_stixYes usb07:35
pugiohow do I terminate X11?07:35
pugiousing that command sequence that just kills it?07:35
jerome_stixMy adsl connection is ok but07:35
vi11eI want to uninstall totem player, I have totem-xine totem-gstreamer and totem  packages, which packages should I leave? I want to leave xine on my PC07:36
ruinaanyone brazilian here?07:36
JsPrpugio: <ctrl><alt><backspace>07:36
vi11eola boa nujte07:36
apokryphosvi11e: "A simple media player for the Gnome desktop based on xine". See the Synaptic description.07:36
membreyaok then thoreauputic I have a different question for you :P07:37
vi11eobrigado07:37
blah09vi11e, totem-xine can be removed, you call still use xine-ui07:37
ruinahehehe obrigado07:37
jerome_stixWhen i start with adsl modem connected, i can't start the connection. When i connect the modem after start, i can me conncted07:37
vi11eand what about totem-gstreamer ?07:37
pugioHow can I get a shell prompt?07:37
pugioX11 keeps starting07:37
jerome_stixSorry i'm french !!07:37
blah09that too07:37
pugioI can't kill X1107:37
nanophasepugio stop gdm07:38
membreyapugio: CTRL+ALT+F107:38
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pugioyeay!07:38
pugiothanks membreya07:38
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thoreauputicof course, that doesn't kill X - it's still running on tty707:39
ulisseHi all!07:39
pugiothoreauputic: oh07:39
pugioso, then I have to kill it07:39
membreyathoreauputic: that's where sudo killall comes in ;)07:39
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pugiosudo killall X11 ?07:39
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pugiowould taht be the correct command?07:39
membreyathoreauputic: don't you want to answer anymore of my questions? :P07:39
tux_lo07:39
ulisseI'm having a strange problem with hoary, someone willing to listen to me?07:39
pugiomembreya: sudo killall X11 ?07:39
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thoreauputicsudo /etc/init,d/gdm stop07:39
geargoleminstalling yafray for blender...  any tips?07:40
tux_when i right click on a file on the desktop, it doesnt give an option to print07:40
tux_is it possible to add such an option ?07:40
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thoreauputicmembreya: you assume that I am capable of doing so?07:40
LinuxJonestux_, hit the print screen on your keyboard07:40
tux_:)07:40
ulissegeargolem, enable universe (or multiverse?) repositories and apt-get it!07:40
LinuxJones:)07:40
membreyathoreauputic: you have a beard :P07:40
tieliehello, people I have a Question is there anyone who knows why the swedish gnome language translations is not installed in hoary?07:41
tux_got my sylus c-62 working with linux, quite good results!07:41
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thoreauputicmembreya: ah, but like Samson, my powers might disappear if I remove the facial hair?07:41
ruinaanyone brazilian here?07:42
membreyathoreauputic: that would be assuming the powers are not simply a figment of our imagination07:42
Ainvarafter installing the fgl ati drivers from synaptic on a hoary install07:42
membreyamy girlfriend gets brazilian waxed ruina, does that count?07:42
Ainvaranything special I have to do to use th enew drivers?07:42
pugiowhat's the easiest way I can tell if my sound is working?07:42
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membreyapugio: turn your speakers on?07:43
thoreauputicmembreya: I have no illusions in that respect: I might give the impression of erudition - but I know I'm a newb really ;)07:43
thoreauputicpugio: cat /dev/urandom /dec/dsp07:44
pugioyeah that's wha I wanted thanks07:44
thoreauputicpugio: and ctrl-C to escape the cacophony07:44
membreyanewb indeed :P07:44
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pugioyeah07:44
pugioI am a newb07:44
pugioso?07:44
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thoreauputic/dev/dsp (typo)07:44
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membreyapugio: not you dude :) thoreauputic07:44
ulissegeargolem, i suggest not to use the "export xml" feature in blender's yafray panel; it didn't work for me...07:44
pugioahh07:45
pugiowel I am too07:45
membreyaI'm more of a newbie :)07:45
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ulisseI'm having a trouble wit pmount (i think)07:45
geargolemthe synaptic package is .6..  not the latest build of yafray07:45
erlendthoreauputic, that's funny.. it doesnt work for me. no sound. however  i get sound in gnome and xmms and whatever when i use esound07:45
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tuxadermistsweet I get to watch the "Life of Brain"  good way to kill off a lousy weather day07:46
thoreauputicmembreya: heh  my last encounters with computers before linux involved punch cards and an IBM 360 mainframe :)07:46
pugiothoreauputic: ummm, that just makes my tower beep07:46
pugiothoreauputic: but no sound comes out of my speakers07:46
membreyapunch cards? dear god, I wasn't even born then07:46
thoreauputicerlend: I made a typo - should be /dev/dsp07:46
ulissegeargolem, I don't know, try to see on yafray site...07:46
pugioerlend: esound?07:46
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erlendwhen i try to use mplayer with oss module it doesnt work.07:46
erlendthoreauputic, i know :)07:47
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ulissenobody using hoary and knows pmount?07:47
geargolemulisse what did you do to get it to work with blender?07:47
pugioerlend: what and how is esound?07:47
thoreauputicmembreya: but I've only been using linux for about 3 years07:47
ulissegeargolem, I simply installed it via apt-get, and it was on the blender render panel07:47
erlendi have this problem. mplayer -vo help does not give me esd or alsa as a choice. and when i use oss it tells me /dev/dsp is busy.07:48
kentDoes any one know of a program to check the inklevel on lexmark printers? Ive got it working, now i want to check the inklevel :)07:48
erlendPugio, enlightenment sound daemon ?07:48
tuxadermistQuestion:  Why in Hoary can I no longer edit my repository list in Synaptic ?07:48
ulissegeargolem, only the export xml thing didn't work, I have to render directly to yafray from blender07:48
pugioerlend: oh07:48
pugioarrghhh my sound will NOT work, the volume control is maxed07:48
farruinnerlend: there is supposed to be a command you use to force an app to use esd07:48
pugiobut nothing comes out07:48
farruinnbut I don't remember what it is07:49
geargolemulisse it doesn't render within blender?07:49
encKe`same here pugio07:49
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erlendfarruinn, really? okay.. i wonder why mplayer can't figure out that my system has esd installed07:49
pugiocan anyone assist us poor no-sound people?07:49
ulissegeargolem, I'm using the latest release of blender, may it help?07:49
erlendand i wonder why esd is the only sound system i can use07:49
Dr_willispugio,  what sound card?07:49
ulissegeargolem, It renders only directly07:49
geargolemthats what I'm using as well07:49
pugionforce2 AC9707:49
encKe`mine sees both devices, but uses my onboard sound instead of card07:49
farruinnerlend: see if 'apropos esd' gives you anything07:49
pugioDr_willis: nforce2 AC9707:50
geargolemhmm.  let me use the synaptic package to get yafray again07:50
ulissegeargolem, you have to uncheck the "xml" button in yafray panel07:50
erlendfarruinn, it does07:50
Dr_willisi recall on some cards - that different mixers show different sliders.. like "alsamixer"07:50
pugioI have a whole bunch of sound modules loaded in "lsmo" but no soudn comes out07:50
erlendhm07:50
Dr_willison one pc i go ttheres some sliders way to the right that for some reason are muted by default. i alwyas had to set them to 75% or so07:50
pugioI don't have any mixers07:50
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pugiojust whatever Ubuntu came with07:51
encKe`where do i edit to change my sound device?07:51
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encKe`alsamixer , pugio07:51
pugioencKe`: how do I access that?07:51
encKe`open terminal & type alsamixer07:52
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pugioahh, just did07:52
pugioCard: NVidia nForce207:52
pugioChp: Realtek ALC650 rev 307:52
pugiobut not soudn comes out07:52
Dr_willispugio,  perhaps install the alsa ones.  could be the gnome ones are not showihg the right controlls.07:52
Dr_willisalsamixergui - graphical soundcard mixer for ALSA soundcard driver07:52
pugioDr_willis:  well, alsamixer in the terminal works07:53
pugioDr_willis: but I'll try the gui too I guess07:53
ulissesomeone help me with pmount, please...07:53
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pugio(Btw, works doesn't mean any actual sound)07:53
Dr_willispugio,  that thing has some slikders you are NOT seeing - way to the right side.. perhaps...07:53
pugiohmmm07:53
pugiook07:53
pugioDr_willis: I'll get the gui now07:53
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carajeandoes totem play avi files?07:54
Dr_willisin the console one.. use the right arror key to get over to the right side. :P07:54
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pugioDr_willis: oh I see07:54
pugiolet's see if that works07:54
Dr_willisdiffrent cards will have different sliders ive notced. on some of mine - i go tto tweak others :P07:54
Dr_willispugio,  :P07:54
encKe`Dr_willis, how do i go about changing my default card?07:54
Chipzzthe ubuntu mirros are giving me errors when apt-get updating07:54
ChipzzFailed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2)07:54
Fator_Deethey are under maintenance07:54
encKe`it stuck using my onboard sound07:55
Dr_willisif you got more then 1 sound card. therrs some alsa config files..07:55
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Dr_willisor disable the onboard on the bios. :P07:55
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thoreauputicChipzz: maintenance in progress07:55
Dr_willisI always jst disable the thing in bios07:55
pugioDr_willis:  I only have one card, however I don't know how to turn a slider On07:55
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encKe`aww.... ill try the bios trick. Im sure itll werk07:55
pugioit says "Item: CD [Off] "07:55
encKe`thx dude07:55
thoreauputicoops - gee I'm slow now07:55
Dr_willisUp arror to up the folume..07:55
Dr_willisvolume. :P07:55
encKe`brb07:56
Dr_willisas for onb/off - not sure :P i dont see any that say on/off let me see07:56
Dr_willisM - will Mute/Unmute stuff07:56
lavigjhey guys, quick question. I installed mplayer from scratch, and I get audio when I run it from command line, and when I run gmplayer, but not when I right click on something and select "open with other application". any suggestions on what's happening?07:56
Dr_willisif thats what you mean.07:56
carajeanok how do i get totem to play my avi files from my hard drive???07:56
membreyadamn cron tab not working!07:56
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pugioDr_willis:  let me try that07:56
titohi07:56
Sionidlehooray for ubuntu07:56
apokryphoscarajean: See the article about restricted formats on the site07:57
pugioDr_willis:  yeah M seems to turn it "On"07:57
thoreauputiclavigj: is it in your $PATH ?07:57
apokryphos%tell carajean uburestricted07:57
Pyrecarajean: uburestricted - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats07:57
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Dr_willisI got "Via DXS"  way at the right that on this pc - i have tobe sure is on/90% or so. for sound to work.07:57
lavigjthoreauputic: hmm... probably not. how do I check that?07:57
thoreauputiclavigj: and you added it under properties?07:57
thoreauputiclavigj: type `which mplayer` I guess to see if it's in the PATH07:58
thoreauputicor gmplayer07:58
membreyahmmm my cron tab is currently set to 58 5 * * * /opt/azureus/azureus07:58
membreya59 5 * * * sudo killall azureus07:58
membreyaany reason why it's not loading azureus?07:58
lavigjthoreauputic: /usr/local/bin/mplayer07:58
carajeanok so what player can i apt-get that can play avi files??07:58
Dr_willismembreya,  first guess  - file permissions/ownership07:58
thoreauputicOK - it's in your path then so that's not it07:58
titoi formated a memory stick in win2000 in FAT32, when i try mount /dev/sda the reponse is:07:58
apokryphoscarajean: Get mplayer or xine, I recommend. However, you might also need to get extra codecs. See the above article.07:59
Sionidedoes ubuntu come with mplayer ?07:59
thoreauputicSionide: no07:59
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lavigjcarajean: I would recommend using mplayer... there are some guides for compiling it yourself. other than the small snafu I am having, it is excellent and will play almost anything07:59
Fator_DeeSionide: no, but you can get it from repos07:59
apokryphosSionide: Nope; but available in the repos.07:59
Dr_willistito,  its MOST likely needing to mount "sda1"07:59
carajeanok cool07:59
carajeanthanks07:59
apokryphosnp07:59
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titomount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda,07:59
Fator_Deenp07:59
tito       or too many mounted file systems07:59
membreyaDr_willis: I can run azureus from the console without needing to sudo07:59
Dr_willistito,  or its on some other scsi device.. sdb sdc.. ect..07:59
sander__Does anyone here use soundjuicer?07:59
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Dr_willismembreya,  cron runs as a different user entirely i do belive08:00
titook, you must specify the filesystem type08:00
titoin fdisk -l08:00
Dr_willistito,  thats mounts generic "it dident work" error message "{08:00
ruinaI need disable postifix on boot .. how I make this??08:00
thoreauputicsander__: sure08:00
lavigjtito: you are using mount -t vfat etc... right?08:00
Sionideah ha08:00
Dr_willisA Proper/correct mount command will work wonders also. :P08:00
thoreauputicsander__: only for .ogg though08:00
pugioDr_willis:  I turned EVERY slider up but still no sound08:00
Dr_willispugio,  no idea then.08:01
Dr_willispugio,  could be a sound driver/module issue.08:01
ruinaerrr postifix = postfix08:01
sander__thoreauputic, did you have to set any security permissions to get juicer to see the drive?08:01
pugioDr_willis:  well, I have like 10+ modules loaded with snd08:01
titoroot@ubuntu:/home/tito # mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /usb08:01
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thoreauputicsander__: no, I don't believe so08:01
titomount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1,08:01
tito       or too many mounted file systems08:01
tito       (aren't you trying to mount an extended partition,08:01
tito       instead of some logical partition inside?)08:01
geargolemI unchecked xml, ulisse, and blender quits running when I hit 'render'08:01
sander__I mean do I have to add myself to cdrom group or something. I can play CDs but juicer just sits there and doesn't see the CD.08:02
thoreauputicsander__: possibly it's pointing at the wrong directory?08:02
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sander__I don't see a directory setting, just a device listing.08:02
thoreauputicah - add yourself to the disk group I think08:02
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tozerwhere can I download the ndis-wrapper ?08:02
goldfishapt-get install ndiswrapper-utils08:03
goldfishi think08:03
ruinawhat is command for disable daemon on boot? I dont want remove S and K files in rc directory08:03
Sionidehow do i install the SMB support thing for windows networks?08:03
tozerI don't have a connection working on the ubuntu machine... I'm on an ibook and want to burn it to a cd and then install it08:03
thoreauputicsander__: hmm - mayve cdrom08:03
thoreauputicmaybe08:03
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Dr_willistito,  it may want sda5 - check what fdisk says on that decvice08:04
sander__hmm, I am a member of CDROM. I wonder if it has something to do with CD having both audio and data on it.08:05
tozergoldfish: do you know where I can download it and burn it to cd?08:05
pugioDr_willis: cat /dev/urandom /dev/dsp does give me a bunch of noise08:05
goldfishtozer: http://sourceforge.net/projects/ndiswrapper/08:05
thoreauputicsander__: is it pointing to the right device? (/dev/hdc or whatever)08:05
pugioDr_willis:  but I never get any real sound08:05
Dr_willispugio,  lol :P08:05
tozergoldfish: thanks08:05
goldfishtozer: u can get the source there08:05
goldfishnp08:05
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Dr_willispugio,  try the mpg123 player from the console. It may be a gnome issue.08:05
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selinium_anybody here played zelda on nestra?08:06
ruinawhat is command for disable daemon on boot?08:06
pugioDr_willis:  command not found08:06
thoreauputicsander__: if you are the first user (default user) I think you should be in the right groups anyway08:06
sander__When you insert a music CD does Hal mount it on your desktop?08:06
Dr_willispugio,  install it then :P  Logic 10108:06
apokryphossander__: Music CDs aren't mounted.08:06
titospecial device /dev/sda5 does not exist08:06
pugioDr_willis:  apt-get mpg123 ?08:06
thoreauputicsander__: audio CDs are not mounted - they have no filesystem08:07
Dr_willisapt-get install08:07
sander__apokryphos, OK.08:07
Dr_willishttp://www.ubuntuguide.org/08:07
thoreauputicsander__: unless you mean mp3s or similar08:07
sander__thoreauputic, the first time I entered the CD it asked me if I wanted to mount it as data or music. I think there may be a setting in there somewhere that was messed up.08:07
mjrsander__, gnome-volume-manager can open the CD player on insertion of audio CDs, but yeah, mounting isn't an option08:08
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mjranyway, seems like the proper thing to ask would be rather whether to "treat" it as a data or music disc08:09
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sander__Er, it was an issue with that one cd (the one I wanted to rip :() so juice does work. Thanks mjr, thoreauputic and apokryphos!08:10
membreyaso to get my cron tab running..what should I do..change the ownership of the file I'm trying to run or change the groups I belong to????08:10
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sander__Also what is the preferred multimedia back end? Should it be ALSA or ESD?08:11
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[Spooky] yo yo08:13
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[Spooky] man i have trouble with the command dd anyone good with it ?08:14
helio7anyone ever have trouble adding WMs to the .xsession file and having them appear in the "session chooser" for some reason blackbox always appears as #2: Default System Session...  rather than by its correct name.08:14
pugioDr_willis: the mpg123 worked!08:16
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larsrohdinhi, is anyone here any good at fluxbox keys?08:16
pugioDr_willis: so, do you have any idea what part of Gnome wouldn't allow me to hear sound from it?08:16
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Sionideok08:17
Sionideim a newbie..08:17
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Sionidei need the extreme-newbies guide to linux08:17
[Spooky] man i have trouble with the command dd anyone good with it ?08:17
pugioor, does ANYONE have any idea why I can hear sound through the command line utilities but not through gnome?08:17
Sionideanyone got any useful links?08:17
Kosmic_Youthman dd08:17
Kosmic_Youth :)08:17
pugioSionide hang on, lt me check my liinks, I think I have one08:17
ompaul[Spooky] , (those []  make it hard to start typing) what do you want to do with dd?08:17
apokryphosSionide: ubuntuguide.org is good for stuff. I'll get you a better one though; hold on.08:17
Sionideyeah i have ubuntuguide bookmarked08:18
pugiohttp://www.icon.co.za/~psheer/book/index.html.gz08:18
pugiothat one is huge08:18
pugiobut good08:18
pugiomight be a bit tooo much though08:18
Sionideheh08:18
[Spooky] ompaul: to make a image of a cd-r...08:18
pugioso, does anyone have any idea why Gnome wouldn't give me sound but the command line would?08:18
larsrohdinanyone good at fluxbox key bindings?08:18
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Sionidethe wiki helps obviously08:19
Sionideand the guide08:19
ompaul[Spooky] , to a hard drive or to another disk?08:19
[Spooky] ompaul: im trying dd if=/dev/hdd of=/homedir/fil.iso08:19
tuxadermistthere we go removing the update-manger helps08:19
Sionidebut i probably need a noobs guide to nux rather than just ubuntu08:19
[Spooky] ompaul: to hard drive08:19
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ompaul[Spooky] , and your error is?08:19
[Spooky] in/out error...08:19
[Spooky] ompaul:08:19
apokryphosSionide: Ah; pugio brought in that link. It's very good; I recommend it. There's a few others for basics on command line I could dig out, if you want.08:19
Sionideplease08:20
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Sionidei mean im not a total noob08:20
Sionidei've used nux before08:20
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Sionidei have 2 nix machines now08:20
apokryphos:P08:20
Sionideone slackware and one ubuntu08:20
Sionidebut thats not the same as knowing how to use them and not asking questions all the time08:20
goldfishlol08:21
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goldfishI have ubuntu for 3 weeks and I still dont know what im up to too well Sionide08:21
Sionidei have another thing blocking my way08:21
goldfishAs you said, being a noob sucks :/08:21
Sionidei connect to the net through a proxy (on my internal home network) and it sucks08:21
pugiodoes anyone know why Gnome sound wouldn't work but command line sound would?08:22
ompaul[Spooky] , are you running that with sudo? i.e.  sudo dd if=/dev/cdrom(1)  /homedir/fil.iso08:22
pugiois there some faulty gnome sound daemon?08:22
goldfishcommand sound?08:22
goldfishterminal beep?08:22
ompaul[Spooky] , also note that I have changed from the hdd to cdrom or cdrom1 as needed08:22
ruinaroot@priss:/home/jarbas # apt-get install xmms08:22
ruinaReading Package Lists... Done08:22
ruinaBuilding Dependency Tree... Done08:22
ruinaRecommended packages:08:22
ruina  libmikmod208:22
ruinaThe following NEW packages will be installed:08:22
ruina  xmms08:22
ruina0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.08:23
ruinaNeed to get 1996kB of archives.08:23
Sionidepugio, i have problems with my soundcard on nux - ubuntu had no problems at all on my laptop08:23
ruinaAfter unpacking 6238kB of additional disk space will be used.08:23
ruinaGet:1 http://archive.ubuntu.com warty/main xmms 1.2.10-1 [1996kB] 08:23
ruinaFetched 1996kB in 1m10s (28.1kB/s)08:23
ruinaperl: warning: Setting locale failed.08:23
ruinaperl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:08:23
Sionideubuntu is definately the easiest nix distro i've seen to install...08:23
tsengruina: please dont do that.08:23
ruina        LANGUAGE = "en_GB:en_US:en",08:23
jinx_I've installed Ubuntu on my laptop, and it all works fine - wifi and all... except one thing:  I can't refer to mercury/polaris etc by name unless I fully qualify the domain name i.e. mercury.rising.  I've forgotten how to setup linux to recognise that it's on the rising domain.08:23
ruina        LC_ALL = (unset),08:23
ruina        LANG = "en"08:23
jinx_I've got08:23
ruina    are supported and installed on your system.08:23
jinx_192.168.1.128 seraphym.rising seraphym08:23
jinx_in the /etc/hosts file08:23
ruinaperl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").08:23
jinx_but what else do I need to do?08:23
ruinalocale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory08:23
ruinalocale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory08:23
Fator_Deegaaahh.. fl00d08:23
ruinalocale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory08:23
ruinaPreconfiguring packages ...08:23
ruinaSelecting previously deselected package xmms.08:23
pugiogoldfish:  command line mp3 players work08:23
ruina(Reading database ... 65806 files and directories currently installed.)08:23
ruinaUnpacking xmms (from .../xmms_1.2.10-1_i386.deb) ...08:23
tsengoh jeez.08:23
pugiogoldfish: and the like08:23
ruinaSetting up xmms (1.2.10-1) ...08:23
LinuxJonesomg ruina08:23
ruinaperl: warning: Setting locale failed.08:23
ruinaperl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:08:23
pugioruina please don't flood08:23
ruina        LANGUAGE = "en_GB:en_US:en",08:23
ruina        LC_ALL = (unset),08:23
ruina        LANG = "en"08:23
pugioruina stop08:23
mike998jeez... someone kick ruina08:23
goldfishpugio: ah k08:23
ruina    are supported and installed on your system.08:23
ruinaperl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").08:24
Fator_Deethis channel needs a bot08:24
ruinasorry08:24
ompaulruina, that would be better if you had done that in #flood or some paste bin08:24
tuxadermistHow do I add items to my Applications menu ? is there a menu editor or something ?08:24
pugiogoldfish: I'm just trying to figure out why Gnome isn't giving me sound?08:24
apokryphosruina: use a pastebin08:24
jinx_did anyone even see my question in amongst all that garbage?08:24
pugiogoldfish: I heard that maybe it's default sound daemon might be offf, but I don't really know much08:24
ompaulapokryphos, what you say that a pastebin needs to be in the topic?08:24
goldfishtuxadermist: nautilus applications:///08:25
[Spooky] ompaul: tried now and im getting the same error...08:25
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goldfishtuxadermist: file, create new launcher08:25
goldfishmaybe08:25
ompaul[Spooky] , which? all of them cdrom cdrom0 cdrom1?08:25
apokryphosompaul: Erm nope; I'm saying that for large output, or multiple line output on IRC you should use a pastebin service.08:25
erlenddoes anybody know how i can edit menus in hoary ? it is no longer possible to go to applications:///08:25
ompaulapokryphos, I think a pastebin or #flood should be in the topic that is all I am suggesting08:26
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apokryphosompaul: Oh right; yeah, could be a good idea.08:26
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ompauljinx_, em your question what is mercury?08:27
ompauljinx_, em in your question I end up with another one: what is mercury?08:28
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Sionidei like progs with proxy settings08:28
Sionidelike the synaptic08:28
tuxadermistguess they took out applications;/// outta hoary and any trace of being able to add apps, hope gnome told programers to make them all auto appear from now on08:28
jinx_ompaul: mercury/polaris are just other machines on the network.  I can type (for example) ping mercury.rising, but not ping mercury    My question is, how to get my Ubuntu machine to realise it's on the 'rising' domain?08:29
erlendtuxadermist, is there no way to edit the menus now ?08:30
tuxadermistnot that I can see08:30
tuxadermistat least not as easily as you could in warty08:30
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tuxadermist:(08:30
Zapanyo les gens08:31
jinx_ompaul: i've got another box which acts as the DNS server.  All my other machines know they are on the 'rising' domain, and don't need to fully qualify the machines names to see them08:31
LinuxJoneserlend, atm I don't think so, I'm sure the Gnome developers are working on another method.08:31
Sionidewow the ubuntu wiki is nice08:31
erlendi really really can't believe why gnome has been released at all without a menu edit tool. just a small and simple tool to edit menus, how difficult could that have been to make ?08:31
erlendunbeleivable08:31
ompauljinx_ so you need to look at resolv.conf08:31
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jinx_ompaul: the ip in resolv.conf points to the DNS server08:32
ompauljinx_, and the domain name in resolv.conf is rising?08:32
jinx_ompaul: ahh - do I need to put "search rising" at the top?08:32
ompaulyou got it08:32
tuxadermistonly place I can make launchers by the look of it is on he desktop, not something I wanna do, limited space, after 50 icons its gonna look rather messy erlend08:32
Oo-0hey, anyone got time to help me upgrade ALSA? apparently I need 1.0.8 for my card to be supported.08:32
pugioHow can I get the Gnome Multimedia System Selector in Ubuntu?08:33
pugioI don't see anything like it?08:33
erlendtuxadermist, this is so absurd. what reasonable explanation is there that something as important as menu editing is made impossible ?08:33
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jinx_ompaul: thanks - that was it :)  I completely forgot about that setting :/  Ok - well that's the last of my questions.. The box works perfectly apart from that and I'm well pleased that the Ubuntu install detected my wifi and sound etc as it's a laptop with some dodgy proprietary stuff in it....08:34
apokryphoserlend: I believe it's not working on KDE, too ;)08:34
pugioHow can I get the Gnome Multimedia System Selector in Ubuntu?08:35
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encKe`Bios fix worked great Dr_willis08:35
encKe`thx08:35
erlendwhy?? do they want people to use another desktop environment ?08:35
LinuxJonesPuggs, gstreamer-properties08:35
Sionideerr08:36
pugiogstreamer?08:36
Sionidebleh who knows about samba?08:36
apokryphoserlend: Nope; it's an Ubuntu problem, not quite sure. I know it's at least fixed in KDE 3.4; not sure of Gnome.08:36
LinuxJonesPuggs, type that in console08:36
encKe`i had samba running on freebsd but not ubuntu yet08:36
pugioI'm trying to find the spot where I can switch gnome between OSS ALSA and ESD08:36
tuxadermisterlend, dunno, but there are .desktop files, they seem to hold the information,  now all ya gotta do is write a new one for each and every app you install and there only 8 lines long.  All designed with end user ease of use in mind :)08:37
LinuxJonesPuggs, or alt + F208:37
pugioahh08:37
pugioI got it, I think08:37
pugiogstreamer-properties08:37
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LinuxJonesPuggs, :)08:37
Sionidei got it running, but when i try and connect to this from this (windows) machine it asks for a username and pass but doesnt accept my ubuntu login08:37
encKe`dont forget about alt - f4  :)08:37
erlendapokryphos, you practicaly haveto be a hacker to edit menus in gnome. regardless of which distro you are using. i was very pleased when i found that it could be done with applications:/// in ubuntu, but now they removed this option. so annoying08:37
pugiothere should be a menu for that08:37
Sionideand when i try and look at this machine from ubuntu it says i dont have the right permissions08:37
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tuxadermisterlend, well dunno about u or others but this kills using gnome for me, definate non starter seeing how i only use simple things08:39
encKe`Sionide,  on ur windows machine you have to run "gpedit.msc" and allow windows to accept unincrypted passwords08:39
tuxadermistgonna check out gimpnet see if anyone in #gnome has a bright idea08:41
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vi11eI need help with the archive manager! how can I get hidden files visible there?08:42
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ompauljinx_, not a problem, sorry was taking a call08:42
Oo-0anybody know what I need to do to upgrade to alsa-1.0.8?08:42
encKe`under "Computer Settings", "Windows Settings", "Security Setting", "local Policies"08:42
encKe`Sionide, its in there08:42
murcianoville on gnome?08:42
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Sionidecool thanks i'll try that hang on08:42
jinx_ompaul: are you related to the Ubuntu project at all or are you just a helpfull user?08:43
vi11eyes murciano08:43
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encKe`you will prob have to reboot machine.....  it is winblows ya know08:43
murcianoville control + H08:43
ompauljinx_, helpful is my intention08:43
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pugioanyone here have any experience with different sound daemons?08:43
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ompauljinx_, 'just' is so condesending :)08:43
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pugiocause I'm having issues trying to get ESD ALSA or OSS08:43
jinx_ompaul: non-intentionally so :)08:44
murcianoville or menu "view" > "show hidden files"08:44
murcianoville all ok?08:44
ompaulohh my sides hurt08:44
pugioI set the GNome sound daemon to ESD (cause that was the only one that the "test" button worked) but Rhymbox or the default CD player won't play anything08:44
Echylocan you integrate python programs in html?08:44
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jinx_ahh - I do have one more thing: How do I disable the screen-saver when watching movies with gmplayer?08:45
ompaulEchylo, do you mean trigger them on a server or client side?08:45
murcianocan anybody help me with my wireless card?08:45
ompauljinx_, I only know how to do it full time if that is any use08:45
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Echylotrigger them on server08:46
EchyloI made a very very simple html generator08:46
vi11emurciano: there is no "show hidden files" in archive managers view and control+H doesn't work... those tricks works on the "file browser" but not in my "archive manager"08:46
jinx_Echylo: sure - you can write server side script in pretty much anything, provided support in the web server08:46
ompauljinx_, you could have a thing where there is a time difference between saver and locked so just moving the mouse would be enough08:46
encKe`Sionide, also disable the 2 settings that say something like "if client agrees" (always)08:46
murcianoville sorry, what do you mean with "archive manager"?08:47
jinx_Echylo: and apache does have mod_python afaik08:47
encKe`youll see what im talking bout once ur in there08:47
pugioRecommendations people -what's a good all purpose media player08:47
pugioI'm tired of getting all of these things to work08:47
Sionidemplayer08:47
Echylok08:47
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EchyloI'll look for it then08:47
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vi11ewell, archive manager opens when I want to specify a directory where I want to save something or do something.... you can also open archive manager in hoary from Applications -> accessories... when you open it , take "open" and you see the window where I should see the hidden folders but I can't get them visible08:48
SionideencKe`, cant find any of these settings in here :s08:48
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encKe`u running xp or win 2000?08:49
murcianoville sorry, I dunno :(08:49
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vi11eanyone know?? it is irritating, if I can't get it show those hidden folders, I can't use one firefox extensions I really need :(08:50
murcianoville did you tried activating view hidden files on your files manager?08:50
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gpiercehello08:50
SionideencKe`, 2000 sorry, should have said.08:50
encKe` under "Computer Settings", "Windows Settings", "Security Setting", "local Policies"08:50
Sionidei'm there08:51
Sionidei have these 3 things:08:51
ompaulville if you use about:config in the address bar you can see what options are available to you in the mozilla family08:51
Sionideaudit policy08:51
Sionideuser rights assignment08:51
Sionidesecurity options08:51
encKe`security options08:52
encKe`then local policies08:52
ompaulI wish one could register for I do not fall for spam and then the spam would stop :)08:53
encKe`slie the bar over so u can see the options08:53
vi11eompaul I already installed a plug-in that I wish, but when I try configure it, I need to choose a file in a hidden folder and it pops up archive manager to browse there :S08:53
encKe`slide08:53
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Sionideyeah got them all08:53
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ompaulcd ville fire up a terminal cd .mozilla and use vi or some such on the fiel08:53
izaacsomeone who solve the problem: error stopping gdm on shutdown or reboot?08:53
ompaulfile even08:54
Sionideah ha08:54
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klaymville: why do you need to get to your extension files? aren't they configurable enough via firefox?08:54
vi11ehmm... murciano  and ompaul now in archive manager, I manage to get hidden files if I right click on just about in there and there is the option.... wasn't there when I didn't had a tag in show hidden files and folders in file browser.. oh well..08:54
Sionidesend unencrptyed password to connect to third-party SMB servers?08:55
encKe`srry, i meant "security settings" "local policies" then "security option"08:55
Sionideenable that?08:55
encKe`yes08:55
ionsmy dmesg is flooded with 'hdc: lost interrupt' any idea what that means?08:55
Sionidegot it, what were the other ones you said?08:55
ionsI haven't used the cdrom at all08:55
vi11eklaym: I am configuring them via firefox, but in firefox there is the "browse" tab, which I click and it pops up the "archive manager"08:55
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encKe` also disable the 2 settings that say something like "if client agrees" (always)08:55
gpiercehi08:55
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Sionidecant find them08:56
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vi11eklaym: I added an extension that makes firefox to save certain filetypes to certain directories automatically, so it needs to browse my dirs08:56
encKe`Digially sign communication08:56
encKe`&08:56
Sionideah08:56
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Sionidethey are disabled now08:56
encKe`Secure Channel: Digially08:56
klaymville: ok. don't know08:57
Sionidedc17 i had no luck on the wireless thing but to be honest, it might be a hardware issue cos i couldnt get the fricking thing working under windows much either.. :/08:57
encKe`only the ones that say "always"08:57
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dc17Sionide: that sucks08:58
encKe`Sionide, reboot then go to " MY Network Places", Entire Network and it should show up08:58
Sioniderebooting sucks..08:58
Sionideif i log out and log in will it do the same?08:58
encKe`:)  i know08:58
Sionideuptime[Windows 2000 Professional, Service Pack 4 (5.0 - 2195) uptime - 9h 36m 13s] 08:59
Sionideoh yeah08:59
Sionideno worries heh, it crashed earlier08:59
Sionidebrb then08:59
BigglezAnyone help with ATI graphics driver? I tried the synaptic route but it says Error 404...09:00
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jetscreamerget the .rpm, and alien it. dpkg -i --force-overwrite atidrivers.deb09:00
Bigglezjet: So, the synaptic way is a dud then?09:02
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jetscreamerBigglez, i don't know. i just heard what works.09:02
Torakikyanyone from geramny?09:03
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Torakikyanyone from germany?09:03
Bigglezjet: Thanks. I wonder who to tell when a package is not available for apt-get ?09:03
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jetscreamerheh09:03
Torakikyanyone from germany?09:04
SioBuntuheh encKe` i made a little message box come up on bootup with that Groups Policy thingy09:04
Bigglezok. ok.09:04
SioBuntuhow do i restart samba from the command line?09:04
Fator_DeeTorakiky: there's no use in repeating that question over and over09:04
BigglezI have another mystery: Mplayer cannot play DVD. It can forward fast them, but not play them?09:04
SioBuntulooked in the manual?09:05
LiveX_wPossible to run a LiveCD without a hardrive?09:05
SioBuntuim pretty sure it can09:05
jetscreameryes LiveX_w09:05
SioBuntuLiveX_w, yeah it runs from the system RAM09:05
jetscreamerBigglez, one thing may be a symlink: /dev/dvd that points to /dev/hdc or wherever09:06
jetscreameramong other things09:06
LiveX_woh09:06
Bigglezjet: I have done all that stuff. Read the ubu-howto and all that jazz. Mplayer plays vids fine, but won't play a dvd.09:06
Oo-0heh, anyone wanna help me out with upgrading alsa to 1.0.8?09:07
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jetscreameri prefer xine-ui myself.09:07
BigglezWhen I play a DVD in Xine I get a really corrupt image, sound is fine. Mplayer = black screen09:07
jetscreamerthen if i have a problem i use xinecheck.09:07
jetscreameror xine-check09:07
jetscreamermyabe you need codecs09:07
Bigglezxine-check reports all fine. complains about codecs, but I can play vids ok?09:07
jetscreamerw32codecs09:07
BigglezI have all those /usr/lib/win32 things09:08
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LiveX_wWhats the best brand to try this with?09:08
jetscreamerah no idea then. mine works, all i know.09:08
jetscreamerbrand?09:08
Bigglezdamn.09:08
hawkeLinuxJones: I suggest the circle-K09:08
jetscreamerBigglez, if xine-check complains about codecs, maybe you need some still09:09
Oo-0no one here knows about alsa 1.0.8?09:09
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ImagistTDHi!  I finally got Ubuntu up and working!09:10
LiveX_wversion ?09:10
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marco_gHi!09:10
Bigglezjet: Well, I don't understand why it plays avi and mpg etc all fine.09:10
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BigglezAnyway - I will try reinstall it09:10
LiveX_wHow woulde one do this?09:11
BigglezI seem to recall that Totem played a DVD fine. I have since gone over to KDE - maybe that has screwed things up.09:11
BigglezTotem doesn't play DVD anymore... :(09:11
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HiddenWolfbigglez: totem-gstreamer or totem-xine?09:12
jetscreamerwhat he said ^^09:12
pugiook something weird is going on09:12
pugioI'm trying to install mplayer09:12
LiveX_wI got 2 old systems without drives09:12
pugiobut I keep getting errors in synaptic about dependencies09:12
minimecBigglez: Hmm.. Try with sudo totem. Tell us what you get.09:12
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jetscreamerpugio, got marillat in your sources?09:13
pugiowhen I try to install mplayer-k609:13
pugioyeah I do09:13
pugiobut I keep getting09:13
jetscreamerya09:13
pugio"Depends libartsc0 but is not going to be installed"09:13
Biggleztotem-gstreamer I reckon - default ubu install09:13
jetscreamerinstall it09:13
ImagistTDI'm trying to get my WPC11 Version 3.7 Linksys Wireless B Notebook Adapter to work with Ubuntu.  Ubuntu is detecting the hardware, but I don't know what to do with the drivers and the bit in the Wiki is too general to be helpful.  Anyone care to give me a more thorough explanation?  I'm sorta new to this.09:13
pugio"Depends libribidi0 but 0.10.4-3 is to be installed"09:13
Bigglezok brb etc09:13
pugiobut I already have some of these libraries installed09:13
minimecBigglez: (I repeat) Hmm.. Try with sudo totem. Tell us what you get.09:14
jetscreamersometimes you can have too high a version installed and it borks stuff... no idea though.09:14
LiveX_wI'd like to use a linux live miniprototype GNoppix disk to run a extremely minimum OS09:14
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Oo-0*sigh* how hard can it be to upgrade alsa from 1.0.5 to 1.0.8?09:14
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Bigglezjet: hold on - trying sudo09:15
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BigglezI get: Totem cannot play this type of media (tmw_aspect_ratio_square_menu_item) because you do not have the appropriate plugins to handle it.09:16
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BigglezWhich is news to me :)09:16
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minimecBigglez: Do you have the lidvdcss2 installed?09:17
LiveX_wMaybe another distribution is better ?09:17
Bigglezminimec: yes09:17
titoHELP please sudo mount /dev/sda1 /usb -t vfat -o umask=00009:18
titoreponse:09:18
titomount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1,09:18
tito       or too many mounted file systems09:18
tito       (aren't you trying to mount an extended partition,09:18
tito       instead of some logical partition inside?)09:18
minimecBigglez: libdvdnav and libdvdread ... too, I guess09:18
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Bigglezummmm...09:19
Biggleznot sure.09:19
mz2how do i make qt apps look like my kde apps? that works in pretty much every other distro as default09:19
LiveX_wWoulde I need to edit the content of the ISO?09:19
Bigglezchecking ...09:19
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vi11eby the way, that download sort and other extension are under "OS=windows" in the addres bar but it works very well in my ubuntu09:19
vi11efirefox extension09:19
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Bigglezmini: yes :)09:19
anthonwshello to all09:19
titothe fs is FAT32, whith fdisk -l > * /dev/sda1 system:09:19
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Torakikyanyone from germany?09:20
titoFAT3209:20
titobut can't i mount it09:20
titothis memory stick i formated in win2000 (FAT32) and i added 5 archives09:21
anthonwsdoes anyone has a atiixp sound card (toshiba a60) working with hoary?09:21
minimecBigglez: hmmm... I have to think about that. This is strange...09:21
LiveX_wWould  the MINI ISO Need to be modded09:21
dc17tito: the usb drive doesn't mount automatically?09:21
titono09:22
dc17tito: when I plug my usb flash drive in, it mounts after a few seconds09:22
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titoi connect and try mount09:22
titowith the pc on?09:22
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Bigglezminimec: thanks. It's v odd. Mplayer = black but can fwd dvd but then you get a still image (it won't play)09:23
gustavoron hoary, qt apps have very ugly appearence... how do I fix that?09:23
Bigglezminimec: Xine = plays fine, sound fine but image looks badly fuzzy and broken up.09:23
LiveX_wAnyone here using MiniPrototype 109:23
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BigglezPS: Same DVD and DVD player worked fine in mplayer under Fedora 109:23
titothe memory is kingstone 512mb09:24
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anthonwshoary is full of "feelings".... one time works... after a reboot it doesnt...09:24
SiRrUs:)09:24
anthonwsdoes anyone experience that?09:24
dc17tito: what does "fdisk -l /dev/sda" give you?09:24
minimecBigglez: I see. So you use totem-gstreamer? If you tried totem-xine.09:25
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Bigglezminimec: installing now. little slow. will see.09:25
tito/dev/sda1               1          60      481918+   b  W95 FAT3209:25
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dc17tito: ok.  if you type "mount" do you see /dev/sda1?09:26
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dc17tito: I think it shows up under /media/VOLUMENAME by default09:27
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Kanohi09:27
Kanojust tested the live cd09:27
Kanohow come that there is no "mc" installed?09:27
tsengKano: mc has never been in the desktop seed09:27
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Kanoand you never use a konsole?09:28
Kanoi dont like, i use console09:28
Kanoi dont like gui09:28
Kanoand mc is optimal09:28
titomount:09:28
titomount09:28
tito/dev/hda5 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)09:28
titoproc on /proc type proc (rw)09:28
titosysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw)09:28
titodevpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)09:28
titotmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)09:28
titousbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)09:28
Kanotseng: it is not big, should be added for users who don't want to click the whole time09:29
Bigglezminimec: totem-xine. Loads the DVD (no complaints). Says it's playing. No time advance. Blue screen...09:29
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ompaulAFKtito just do df and see if it is mounted09:29
Kanoso thats all, would be nice to add it09:30
Kanobye09:30
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titono09:30
titoin mount error09:30
tsengKano: the main goal of the livecd is to show off the desktop and hardware detection09:30
tsengerm.09:30
ompaulAFKtseng, so be it09:30
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minimecBigglez: do you have the gstreamer-dvd package installed?09:30
Bigglezminimec: totem-xine as sudo plays DVD like Xine = bad video.09:31
Bigglezminimec: yes have that package too.09:31
minimecBigglez: I think this could be the plugin that you need.09:31
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titodc17 can help me?09:32
Bigglezminimec: I have gstreamer-dvd already. Is this what you mean?09:32
minimecwell. then I have really no idea, where the problem is. I use totem-xine and have no problems.09:32
dc17tito: not sure what to tell you09:32
dc17tito: things look ok09:32
minimecBigglez: Yes. that's it.09:32
Bigglezmini: ok. Thanks for trying. I think KDE has screwed me up somehow. :(09:33
tuxadermistok wtf, now I cant install K3b because of a confict with xdg-menu and gnome-menu ?09:33
titoin sudo mount /dev/sda1 /usb -t vfat -o umask=000 the reponse is:09:33
dc17tito: you could try "sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/"09:34
minimecBigglez: probably you're right.09:34
Bigglezmini: Ah damn! Bring on Kubuntu I say :) I might be forced to go Fedora again for a while :(09:35
ompaulBigglez, live with the beauty that is gnome :)09:35
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dc17tito: if you remove the drive and plug it back in do you see any output in /var/log/messages?09:36
minimecBigglez: Hmm. I'm a 'Gnome' for years now and I am very happy with it.09:36
Bigglezompauld: Don't get me started :) I'm beng nice right now !09:36
dc17tito: I get a bunch of usb, usb-storage, and sda messages when I plug the drive in09:36
Bigglezno offence. I liked Gnome too - just too slow for me I suppose.09:37
neighborleeBigglez, you need kde why ;-)..gnome is less bloat and more stable ..I know this from experience albeit i'd like to see some of the kde features make it back top gnome ( edit menus could be easier)...09:37
BigglezMaybe I will re-install ubu and learn to live with it too.09:37
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ikitatNautilus sees every file in my windows partition (vfat) as a file.  No directories!09:37
apokryphosBoth KDE and GNome are great; I used to Gnome, but KDE has too much stuff to ignore; too many great apps.09:37
neighborleeBigglez, thats the spirit ;0009:37
Bigglezcool.09:37
minimecBigglez: Do that. You will be happy too. :-)09:37
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neighborleeapokryphos, and the good news is you dont have to live without them...install kdelibs blah blah and your good to go ;-)09:38
BigglezYes KDE has some great apps! But then, so does GTK (Gnome)09:38
neighborleeapokryphos, I dont recommend it as I find kde buggy but hey if you can't live ;-))09:38
BigglezLee: True. I have a konqueror addiction too tho - you need whole KDE for that I think.09:38
neighborleeBigglez, exactly09:38
apokryphosneighborlee: Yup; sure, that's the glory of Linux. Of course, though, they don't run as fast without being in kde.09:38
apokryphosI'm a kubuntu-er09:38
ompaulapokryphos, this is true, and I use kde apps myself, or I would loose my sanity with some stuff09:38
neighborleenp..kde works in ubuntu too...09:38
neighborleeapokryphos, and so easy to install ;-))09:39
apokryphosyup ;-)09:39
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BigglezAt the risk of starting a war of some kind: can I ask about the speed of gnome?09:39
nawtygday folks09:39
ompaulBigglez, you can09:39
BigglezI find it very clunky. click... wait .... wait ... something09:39
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dc17Bigglez: I find gnome way faster than KDE09:40
neighborleeBigglez, what app(s) seem sluggish09:40
BigglezAlways thought so, right from Redhat 6 - my first linux09:40
apokryphosBigglez: I find KDE faster, but don't take my word for it. :P09:40
neighborleeBigglez, to me its speedy as heck...fastest gnome i've used inlcuding fedofra09:40
neighborleeora09:40
BigglezWell everything. the menus. nautilus09:40
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neighborleeBigglez, well..dont judge gome by nautilus..it IS a pig09:40
BigglezI don't understand that. I have had like 4 different pc's since redhat 6 and they all suffered under Gnome09:41
dc17Bigglez: however, this may be that SuSE is way slower than Ubuntu09:41
ompaulBigglez, just for the heck of it (pardon my swiss) have a look at the animation settings09:41
neighborleeBigglez, I HIGHLY suggest something like gentoo for everyday stuff albeit nautilus has its strengths...but yeah its a bit slow wtih most defaults on...09:41
neighborleegentoo as in the FM09:41
BigglezI think a file-manager is a big part of a desktop system09:41
neighborleefast lean and VERy customizable09:41
Bigglezand it should be fast!09:41
apokryphosI've never noticed this slowness on Nautilus; I always thought it was one of its strong points. But Konqi is my baby. :P09:41
BigglezKonqueror is damn snappy and well powerful!09:42
apokryphosfor everything other than washing the dishes ;)09:42
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neighborleeapokryphos, well..files take a VERY long time to load up in nautilus....gentoo never does09:42
matthHu folks09:42
neighborleeapokryphos, and I have a PIV 2.26 machine with one gig of ram and geforce4TI420009:42
ompaulapokryphos, the kdish_washing_module is well broken :)09:42
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dc17ompaul: where's the animation sertting?09:42
apokryphosneighborlee: My brother uses Gentoo; tried it quite a bit. Speed is certainly one of its great points.09:42
ompaullet me grab it09:42
BigglezI wonder if it's a C++ thing - KDE being faster ?09:42
apokryphosompaul: I hear those bugs are fixed, however, in 3.4 ;)09:42
neighborleeapokryphos, You do realize I mean the gentoo FM right ;-)09:43
apokryphosneighborlee: No :D. But I do now. ;)09:43
jinx_anyone know how to disable the screensaver when using mplayer?09:43
apokryphosDidn't know of its existence. That's interesting.09:43
BigglezWhat does FM mean?09:43
matthDoes anyone have encountered the problem to loose NTFS partition visibility from windows after insalling an ubuntu ?09:43
farruinnBigglez: I really don't know what you're talking about KDE being faster than Gnome - hasn't been my experience, but I don't want to start a KDE vs. Gnome war here09:43
apokryphosBigglez: File Manager09:43
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Bigglezah thanks09:43
ikitatmatth I'm having problems, but it is fat3209:43
BigglezNo wars. just asking.09:43
tjl2_any Python experts in here?09:44
matthikitat: actually I lost 2 parition, one fat32, and one NTFS09:44
ikitatmatth, nautilus sees everything as a file, I can't drill down into directoies09:44
apokryphosfarruinn: It's quite simple ;). KDE-users view KDE faster, and Gnome-users view Gnome faster. We're all drenched in prejudice. :P09:44
neighborleeapokryphos, im sure thats part of it yes <G>09:44
matthunder Linux I got no problem at all, that's just that damn windows who cannot handle them anymore09:44
searcher`however; people running fluxbox know that one is the fastest ;-)09:44
farruinn:D09:44
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matthyeah fluxbox rox :)09:45
BigglezApok: I feel that I want to like both and I feel that I am fair. In my real opinion and experience, KDE is faster.09:45
BigglezDoes Fluxbox have some kind of FM?09:45
matthBigglez: nope fluxbox is just a window manager09:45
BigglezOk.09:45
BigglezAny good FM you know?09:45
searcher`Bigglez: you can use Rox quite nicely with it though09:46
matthbut a lot of people using fluxbox use 'rox' as file manager09:46
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BigglezAnd what about Enlightenment? There's a rocking new version on the way!09:46
Bigglezrox - thanks09:46
satur[nocioa a tutti09:46
neighborleeeither rox or gentoo..I favor gentoo mainly because it reminds me  of  amiga app called directoryopus ;-0009:46
satur[noqualcuno sa come usare ubuntu?09:46
matthsatur[no: that's an english speaking channel I guess...09:47
matth(I just arrived 2minutes ago though ;)09:47
Bigglezgreat. I have an old machine and I want to use UBU, but gnome will kill it dead. So flux and rox perhaps. Good stuff.09:47
satur[nomatth ok09:48
matthBigglez: yep sure, ore even blackbox, if you don't care all the stuff added by fluxbox09:48
apokryphosneighborlee: Ahh, it's not explicitly related to Gentoo. That explains it.09:48
apokryphosdownloading now09:48
BigglezAny distro's I can look at for old machines?09:48
dc17Bigglez:  how old?09:49
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Bigglezpentium 109:49
Infinitinghi09:49
Bigglezboots in 60 minutes09:49
Bigglez0 to 100mghz in 10 years09:49
ompauldc17 I am sure I saw one, _I_ hope it is not the kde one I am thinking of, in which case I will log off and come back in a few hours (which I have to do anyway ;))09:49
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Infinitingi have 1 question please09:49
tuxadermistwith less than a few weeks left I get the feeling Ubuntu isnt gonna be ready09:49
Infinitingcan u help me?09:49
dc17Bigglez: I have debian running on a pentium 1, but it's a fileserver, no x09:49
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Bigglezinfiniting: ask your question.09:50
apokryphosneighborlee: Heh. Not so great on the aesthetic appeal side. ;-)09:50
Infinitingi have an xp 3200+ with 1 gb ddr 40009:50
Infinitingwhat kernell i need?09:50
BigglezI will need X on this one. It's for some kids to learn about computers on.09:50
ClimberHello, I just wanted to know what is the file "modprobe.conf" called in Ubuntu? I only know it is called "modprobe.conf" in Fedora Core 3, but that file doesn't exist in Ubuntu...09:50
pugiook I know this is a dumb question but... HOW can I play a music file in mplayer09:50
dc17tuxadermist: how so?  hoary is running great for me09:50
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pugioall it seems to open are video files09:50
Infinitingnow i have this : 2.6.8.1-3-38609:50
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apokryphosBigglez: "damn small linux" pops to mind09:50
apokryphospugio: Have you installed the codecs?09:51
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Bigglezapok: thanks - will google09:51
blah09or like slackware09:51
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XappeInfiniting, I would go for the k7 kernel09:51
tuxadermistdc17, if Gnome is still adding features then I dont see how, if there not then there missing things and this whole gnome-menus issue is gonna drive people nutz09:51
BigglezInifiniting: Damn. Not sure. Why not just install the latest Ubuntu cd?09:51
blah09this is a cool article: http://www.rabidhardware.net/index.php?id=4309:52
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minimecBigglez: If you tried xfce as WM. As I heard, it's a quiet fast WM.09:52
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gpiercehello09:52
ompauldc17, okay I found what I was looking for, it is not as I described it, an animation setting, it is the choice of theme to match your hardware09:52
pugioapokryphos: such as?09:52
blah09i think on a 100mhz i would use something lighter still, like fluxbox09:52
apokryphos%tell pugio uburestricted09:52
Pyrepugio: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats09:52
ClimberI want to add the line "options bttv card [...] " to a file, but I don't know how that file is called in Ubuntu. Can you tell me the file name? I hope you know what I mean.09:52
ompauldc17, there are heavy and light ones09:52
nixmananyone has ideas about implementing easily weekly/daily backup on ubuntu ?09:52
BigglezThanks all - I will go on a WM orgy and check them out.09:52
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minimecBigglez: :-)09:53
blah09hehe enjoy ;)09:53
dc17ompaul:  where does human fall on that scale?09:53
gpiercehope there is room here for one more voice09:53
apokryphosgpierce: Always ;-)09:53
BigglezOohh. My Syn-ap-sys! ! !09:53
neighborleeapokryphos, heh09:53
dc17Bigglez: check out tuxpaint for the kids09:53
searcher`nixman: rsnapshot.org09:53
Biggleztah09:53
pugioapokryphos: and Pyre I did that09:53
searcher`awsome incremental backup using rsync09:53
gpierceapokryphos: thanks!09:53
pugiobut I'm still having problems :(09:53
ompauldc17, in my case flat on my face09:53
apokryphospugio: Are other apps playing mp3s?09:54
Infinitingi am noobest in linuk and i dont know what kernell install09:54
Pyrehrm09:54
neighborleeapokryphos, its load time more than makes up for it though ..and its operating speed is amazing ..and its totally easy to transfer files from one pane to another...I just LOVE it09:54
apokryphosInfiniting: The K7 One.09:54
pugioapokryphos: well, so far, nothing is, but the point I'mm having is that I can't even find where to open the mp3 in mplayer09:54
BigglezInfinitinining: Why do you ask? Have you already got a Linux that boots?09:54
dc17tuxadermist: i use bash instead of the gnome menus, so I hadn't noticed09:54
apokryphosneighborlee: Whatever floats your boat, I reckon.09:54
Infinitingwhat i tipe?09:54
gpiercehas anyone managed to successfully use the CUPS web interface at http://localhost:631?09:54
neighborleeapokryphos, I love nautilus for one it offers but fore very day File maintenance gentoo rocks ( or rox but Ive never tried it)09:54
pugioapokryphos: all it has is an "open video" option09:54
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Infinitingapt-get install ............... what?09:54
gpierceas root that is?09:54
dc17tuxadermist: but i can see how this would be an issue09:55
tuxadermistanyone know a way around the gnome-menu file confict and the xgd-menu ?09:55
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neighborleeapokryphos, ;-)heh09:55
JDahlgpierce, I dont think you can with ubuntu.. you have to use the config tool from the menu09:55
apokryphospugio: mplayer <file.mp3>09:55
gpiercei was afraid of that09:55
gpierceI have a xerox phaser 6200 DP09:55
dc17ompaul: human runs snappy on my machine.  SuSE 9.2 with KDE or Gnome was really sluggish09:55
pugioapokryphos: well, I was hoping for a gui option, but ok09:56
tuxadermistI am trying to install K3B and Amarok in Hoary and for some reason xgd and gnome-menu arent hot getting along,09:56
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ompauldc17, I did not know there was an wm called human09:56
Infinitingapt-get isnstall mplayer09:56
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dc17ompaul: no, it's a gnome theme09:57
ellsInfiniting, I do not believe mplayer is in the sources anymore09:57
kenttuxadermist, its a known problem. Will be fixed later.09:57
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matthInfiniting: he should have the debian-marrilat url in his source.list isn't it ?09:57
apokryphosells: it is09:57
Infinitingyes09:57
Banditfixed when?09:57
tuxadermistlater ?  nice.  so today i cant burn a cd09:57
ellsapokryphos, which source is providing that for you09:57
Infinitingchange your source list09:57
pugiomatth: and Infiniting I do have that09:58
Infiniting1 sec09:58
apokryphosells: Could be one of the extra ones I added; hold on.09:58
matthdeb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main <-- stuff like that huh ?09:58
ellsapokryphos, cool09:58
pugioit's this whole adio thing09:58
kenttuxadermist, some times files in diffrent packaes conflict. They get fixed after a while. I read on the devel channel before that they know about it, so when they get the time over they will fix it.09:58
pugioit only works when I'm logged in as root09:58
Infinitingsudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list09:58
Infinitingdeb ftp://ftp.ubuntu-es.org/ubuntu/ warty main restricted universe multiverse09:59
Infinitingdeb ftp://ftp.ubuntu-es.org/ubuntu/ warty-security main restricted09:59
Infinitingdeb ftp://ftp.ubuntu-es.org/ubuntu/ warty-updates main restricted universe multiverse09:59
apokryphospugio: You can play from the GUI09:59
Infinitingand add this09:59
Infinitingcoment others09:59
apokryphospugio: Click on the "up" arrow09:59
pugioapokryphos: right, it doesn't show audio files, it only looks for video09:59
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apokryphosells: Hmm, I have no idea how to find out which one it comes from, other than editing each one out individually.09:59
blah09Infiniting, is there somewhere you can find ubuntu mirrors near to you?09:59
Banditkent k3b just stopped today it has been working fine09:59
ellsapokryphos, cool10:00
apokryphospugio: Change the thing at the bottom. Click on the "/"10:00
tuxadermistkent, thanks for the info, not that patient today, wanted to use k3b cause i cant seem to make anything erase a cd10:00
tuxadermisthehe10:00
searcher`tuxadermist: you could try using cdrecord from the command line10:00
searcher`or install gcombust10:00
Infinitingtry10:01
blah09gnomebaker isnt bad either10:01
Infinitingcoment others and add these10:01
Infinitingand sai me10:01
kentgraveman is a program that works aswell for burning CDs.10:01
Infinitingscuse my english but i am spanish10:01
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Infinitingmi english is very bad10:01
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pugioalright10:02
minimecInfiniting: francais, deutsch?10:02
tromikhello, having a bit of trouble10:02
tuxadermistsearcher`, i could try it, just not into cli apps.  But i got nothing else todo at the moment :)10:02
titoi have problems with a memory stick Kingston because i connect other memory stick and Ubuntu detect and mount directly10:03
Infinitingfrench better10:03
pugioOk, I can only access my audio device while as root10:03
Infinitingje compren mieux10:03
pugiohow can I allow my normal account to view root?10:03
titothe kingston memory is not possible to install10:03
minimecInfiniting: alors parlons en francais.10:03
Infinitingok10:03
titoi need drivers?10:04
minimecInfiniting: ou est ton probleme?10:04
Infinitingse kell le probleme10:04
Infiniting?10:04
Infinitingamm10:04
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Infinitingje ne sais pas que kernell instelle pou ma machine10:04
pugioplease? how can I allow normal users to access my audio device?10:04
pugioright now only root can access it10:04
minimecInfiniting: c'est quoi comme machine?10:05
Infinitingmaintenan jai sela 2.6.8.1-3-38610:05
Infinitingk7 3200xp10:05
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Infinitingavec 1gb ddr 40010:05
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tromikhi, I'm trying to do sudo apt-get install X but then terminal says "can't find X", i updated and upgraded yesterday, all ive been able to installl this way is xmms10:05
minimecInfiniting: il existe pour warty le 2.6.8.1.510:06
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apokryphostromik: Are you on Hoary?10:06
Infinitinget ce nais pas un 386?10:06
nubeirohi10:06
minimecInfiniting: tu peux le charger avec le programme apt-get.10:06
Infinitingca doi etre un 686 je croi non?10:06
nubeiroanyone with an ibook ?10:06
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tromikapokryphos: on Hoary?10:06
nubeiroquelqu'un avec un ibook?10:07
apokryphostromik: The latest distribution (though technically in developement)10:07
vincentMXcan you install KDE and gnome?10:07
Infinitingje sais me alor jecris coi? apt-get install ...............10:07
apokryphosvincent: Yes10:07
ellsapokryphos, I added those sources and here is what I got for mplayer The following packages have unmet dependencies:10:07
ells  mplayer-386: Depends: libarts (>= 4:2.2.2-1) but it is not installable or10:07
ells                        libarts-alsa (>= 4:2.2.2-1) but it is not installable10:07
ells               Depends: libdvdread2 but it is not installable10:07
ells               Depends: libvorbis0 (>= 1.0rc3-1) but it is not installable10:07
nubeiroi need some help with xorg10:07
Xappehmm, has this channel turned french all of a sudden?10:07
pugiohow come I have to be root to access my audio device?10:07
tromikas far as i know, its no the live CD10:07
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minimecInfiniting: attends:10:07
geargolemhello10:07
Infinitingok10:07
nubeirohi10:07
vincentMXwhat the fuck are al those french people doing here?10:08
matthpugio: check the rights on your audio device10:08
nubeiroanyone with ppc?10:08
apokryphosells: That's weird. Perhaps you need more sources. Wait, I'll link you to mine.10:08
geargolemyafray in blender?10:08
ellsthanks10:08
apokryphos%tell ells ubusources10:08
Pyreells: http://youmortals.com/stuff/sources.list10:08
pugiomatth where would that be located? /dev/dsp?10:08
matthvincentMX: hey i'm french and don't bother you speaking french10:08
minimecInfiniting: tu fais... sudo apt-cache search linux-image10:08
titoi need drivers for a memory stick kingstone 51210:08
matthpugio: depends what core you got10:08
tito??10:08
ellsPyre, thanks10:08
apokryphosells: He thanks you back. ;-)10:09
nubeirocan anyone help me pleez? I have hoary on my ibook and I would like to get suspend to work10:09
Infinitingsa sa vas chairchez non?10:09
ellsyeap10:09
minimecInfiniting: tu recois une liste avec les kernel a disposition.10:09
vincentMXi'm dutch but still i don't start spekin dutch, go to a french server10:09
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tromikapokryphos: http://releases.ubuntu.com/warty/warty-release-install-i386.iso is the one i burnt and installed10:09
minimecInfiniting: oui, ca va chercher.10:09
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matthpugio: you should have if running alsa this programm /usr/share/alsa-base/snddevices10:09
matthwho make all the work for you10:10
Infinitingok je resu la liste10:10
apokryphostromik: Yeah, that's Warty -- the official "stable" version, though not many use it now, I don't think. At least, not most in here.10:10
Infinitingje choisi kell?10:10
vincentMX /join #ubuntu-fr for if you wanna speak french10:10
apokryphostromik: Apologies, but I won't be able to help... I only ever used Warty for about half a day myself.10:10
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AndyRany clamav experts here?10:10
Infinitingaveqe smp? ou non?10:10
NightieHello, anyone installed FreeMind here?10:11
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nubeirocaon anyone help me with ubuntu ppc?10:11
vincentMXwhat the fuck are al those french people doing here?10:11
AndyRompaul, that bad?10:11
ompaulno good10:11
ompaul:)10:11
vincentMXcan you install KDE and gnome?10:11
minimecInfiniting: maintenant tu choisi le linux-image que tu veux. Je te propose linux-image-2.6.8.1-5-686 si tu a un 'pentium'10:11
AndyRompaul, you use it?10:12
Infinitingjai un k710:12
apokryphosvincentMX: The site doesn't seem to mention the French IRC on the http://www.ubuntulinux.org. That might be why. Will add it in.10:12
geargolemblender and yafray in ubuntu....10:12
pugiomatth: that does a lot of stuff10:12
nubeirocan anyone help me with ubuntu ppc?10:12
minimecInfiniting: tu l'installe avec sudo apt-get linux-image-2.6.8.1-5-68610:12
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minimecInfiniting: tu l'installe avec sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.8.1-5-68610:12
vincentMX /join #ubuntu-fr10:12
Infinitingsa vas avec un k7?10:12
matthyes pugio that create your audio devices with the good rights hopefully10:12
alexissoftInfiniting, /join #ubuntu-fr10:12
apokryphosvincentMX: On Ubuntu? Yes you can.10:12
minimecInfiniting: attends!10:13
NightieCan someone help installing FreeMind?10:13
alexissoftInfiniting, et tu fait a vite hein car ici c'est un canal *anglais*10:13
vincentMXi know10:13
minimecInfiniting: tu l'installe avec sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.8.1-5-k710:13
ellsapokryphos, are you running hoary or warty10:13
minimecInfiniting: il existe un kernel k710:13
Infinitingok but i am spanish :) but in spanish room nobody reponse10:13
apokryphosells: Hoary. Sorry, should have mentioned that before. Are you not?10:13
ellsnaw, I can update if worth it10:14
Infinitingminimec: lot of thanks10:14
apokryphosells: If you've got a decent connection, I definitely recommend it.10:14
minimecInfiniting: no problem. :-)10:14
apokryphosells: Real simple, of course.10:14
ellsapokryphos, I do10:14
apokryphos%tell ells ubuhoary10:14
Pyreells: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GuideToHoary10:14
tromikanyone able to give me help with Warty in here?10:14
ellsright, apokryphos, I need skins10:15
nubeirocan anyone help me with ubuntu ppc?10:15
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apokryphosells: skins for?10:15
ellsmplayer10:15
apokryphosells: Hmm, I think you might have to manually download the package. Doesn't seem to be in the repos.10:16
ellsdo I need any additional sources for the upgrade to hoary? I followed the link that was provided by Pyre. They are a little different10:16
ellsapokrypohos, cool10:16
erlendis it possible to downgrade from hoary? it is terribly buggy i think. gnome has crashed many times, and now i can't even start it. after i login, nothing happens! i have tried deleting /tmp/* and restarting my computer, but it is the same..10:16
erlendand ideas?10:16
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apokryphosells: The one in that link is the basic standard Ubuntu repos. The one I provided earlier on the youmortals website was my sources.list10:17
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nubeirodid you delete ~/.ICE*?10:17
ellsapokryphos, so yours will work then10:17
nubeiroand ~/.xsession??10:17
apokryphoserlend: Buggy? I haven't seen a single bug. But, sure, I think altering your sources will do it.10:17
apokryphosells: It sure will.10:17
ellsthanks man10:17
apokryphosnp :)10:17
ellsI commence to changing my stuff10:17
erlendnubeiro: no, but i will now :)10:17
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erlendapokryphos: not really.. when i try apt-get dist-upgrade it only tries to install kernel 2.6.810:18
apokryphoserlend: Actually, I have noticed one bug (putting aside repos dependency issues). Configuring the panel; that's pretty much it.10:18
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apokryphoserlend: You should specifically select your kernel to install initially.10:19
erlendapokryphos: and let's not forget the very annoying fact that the menu is practically un-alterable in hoary10:19
apokryphoserlend: Check the tweaking thread in the forums.10:19
apokryphoserlend: That's the one I mentioned ;-)10:19
erlendah10:20
geargolemyafray and blender in ubuntu?10:20
elodie01bonjour10:20
erlendapokryphos: what was that kernel thing you just said?10:20
apokryphos%tell erlend ubutweaking10:20
Pyreerlend: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=371310:20
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gpierceAha! I have succeeded in logging on as root to http://localhost:631.  I can now print!  I replaced the stock ubuntu cupsys with the one from the debian unstable repository which did not have the restrictiveness of the ubuntu one!10:26
nubeiroerlend, is it workging now?10:27
dc17gpierce: there was no way to "unrestrict" the ubuntu version?10:27
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gpierceI wouldn't have done this if only I could have had my xerox color printer working.  Xerox provided a little utility which pretty much configures cupsys.  The only problem was you had to get into admin acct.10:28
gpiercedc17: I could not find one.10:28
Xappegpierce, should be configurable by editing the cupsd.conf10:28
Slikehello, how do I start gconftool-2 ? it seems to do nothing...even not from console command line with sudo....i only get some list (textual) of options10:28
JDahlgpierce, I think you can still do all the things with the lpadmin + friends tools... just not localhost:63110:28
gpierceI hope I didn't break anything else.10:29
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gpierceYou are probably right, but the little script that Xerox provided kind of required it or seemed to.10:29
thechitowncubsHey, what would make ubuntu run fast on a slow Pentium II computer with only 192mb of ram?10:30
gpierceDamn, that took almost all afternoon to figure out!10:30
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dc17thechitowncubs: can you add more ram?10:30
Xappethechitowncubs, XFce maybe?10:31
LinuxJonesthechitowncubs, xfce10:31
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regeyathechitowncubs: either add more ram, or use something like xfce, icewm, windowmaker, etc.10:31
thechitowncubsis that available on the default repo's?10:31
LinuxJonesthechitowncubs, yeah it's in the universe repository10:31
pugioanyone gotten rosegarden4 to work on ubuntu?10:31
thechitowncubsI currently have icewm, but it is painfully ugly and not useable10:31
regeyabear in mind that if you use something other than gnome or xfce, you'll be labeled unclean by gnome zealots *ducks*10:31
JDahlthechitowncubs, I am running Warty/Gnome fine with pIII/256MB...10:31
thechitowncubssudo apt-get install xfce ???10:32
thechitowncubsthat all i have to do10:32
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jnkpugio, just tried it and it didn't work... tried installing kde but it didn't help10:32
pugiohmmm10:32
LinuxJonesthechitowncubs, yeah10:32
tidalwav1Hi, all...I'm having trouble with the game Stepmania and ALSA10:32
tidalwav1Stepmania is outputting an error that I'm not sure how to inerpret10:32
thechitowncubsthanks for the quick help, time to go install10:33
jnkif someone knows a good gnome/gtk app for music composition...10:33
LinuxJonesthechitowncubs, GL :)10:33
tidalwav100:02.099: Initializing driver: ALSA10:33
tidalwav100:02.434: ALSA: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.4 (Mon May 17 14:31:44 2004 UTC).10:33
tidalwav100:02.449: ALSA Driver: 0: au8820 [au8820] , device 0: AU88x0 ADB [adb] , 16/16 subdevices avail10:33
tidalwav100:02.451: ALSA Driver: 0: au8820 [au8820] , device 3: AU88x0 WT [wt] , 32/32 subdevices avail10:33
tidalwav100:02.476: ALSA error: pcm_hw.c:344 snd_pcm_hw_hw_params: SNDRV_PCM_IOCTL_HW_PARAMS failed (Device or resource busy)10:33
tidalwav100:02.476: ALSA: dsnd_pcm_hw_params: Device or resource busy10:33
Xappetidalwav1, have you tried to kill the soundserver?10:33
tidalwav1Xappe: how do I do that10:33
jnktidalwav1, type: pkill esd10:33
Xappewarty or hoary?10:33
tidalwav1okay10:33
tidalwav1I tried pkilling the mixer applet10:33
tidalwav1warty10:34
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Xappekillall esd10:34
tidalwav1okay10:34
tidalwav1(I tried hoary, but my internet was acting flaky.)10:34
copilotHi, does anyone have the time to walk me through setting up an ftp server?10:34
tidalwav1copilot: sure, man.10:34
copilotpm?10:34
tidalwav1sure, go for it10:34
pugiojnk hmm I think i may have it10:34
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jnkpugio, what is it?10:34
tromikanyone able to give me help with Warty in here?10:35
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Xappetromik, probably10:35
pugiojnk well, I got it to start once10:36
pugiobut not again, so hang on10:36
jnkok :)10:36
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erlend_aaah10:37
tidalwav1k, pkill esd and killall esd is giving me the same error10:37
Pyreyeah10:37
erlend_i am so frustrated. now gnome will not start again. just stops after the login screen. i have tried deleting /tmp/* /tmp/.* ~/.ICE* .. STILL doesn't start. i guess it was just luck the last time10:37
anthonwsanyone with 2.6.11-686 image?10:38
ozanhi, i am trying to install mencoder but couldn't succeed. i get the error: "Depends: libavcodeccvs (>= 2:20050110-0.0) but it is not going to be installed". where can i find this file? i tried to install this libavcodeccvs but it also gives me "depend" error.10:38
tidalwav1ozan: you need to uncomment the repositories in /etc/apt/sources.list.10:38
tidalwav1ozan: the file has to be edited as root.10:38
ozani did10:38
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ozanthey are all uncommended10:39
jnkanthonws, I tried it but it had a broken patch applied that made it unusable at the time, I don't know if it'sfixed  (the same patch was applied to 2.8.10, but reverted)10:39
tidalwav1ozan: do you have multiverse as a source10:39
ozanyes and also Marillat's repository10:39
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tidalwav1ozan: did you try apt-get update, apt-get install -f?10:40
ozanoups sorry there is no multiverse10:40
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tidalwav1:) try adding multiverse10:40
ozanjust uni10:40
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ionswhen I try and start grip nothing happens10:40
ozanok thx10:40
jnkozan, just checked, it's in Marillat's main10:41
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ionsrunning it from terminal leaves no error10:41
tidalwav1what is this Marillat10:41
tidalwav1lol10:41
jnkhe is a debian developper10:42
anthonwsjnk, after i login in gdm it frezzes.... completly....10:42
jnkand he maintains a repository of packages that are unacceptable for official debian10:42
jnkanthonws, it was the same for me10:42
jnkanthonws, you can't use this package, it's broken. Compile the kernel yourself without the broken patch,, or use 2.6.1010:43
ionsanyone here use grip?10:43
anthonwsjnk, it's what i'm using but....10:43
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tidalwav1yeah, so killall esd is not helping stepmania...any other ideas/10:44
anthonwsjnk, i was trying to use it to see if it would solve some of my problems10:44
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jnkanthonws, well no luck for now :) what are your problems ?10:44
tromikxappe: I want to install xine and the ubuntu guide just says "sudo apt-get install X" but then i get an arror msg "X can not be found", what am I doing wrong?10:44
anthonwsjnk, sound card...10:44
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jnkanthonws, what computer do you have ?10:45
anthonwsjnk, some times works... others not... a toshiba a60 (atiixp sound or AC 97)10:45
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jnkions, I just installed grip and it works from the menu... (using hoary)10:45
ionsk definately a problem...grip is starting to appear. about 4 minutes after I typed in the command10:46
fscwhat package has the gl and glx headers?10:46
fscis it mesa?10:46
ionssound juicer is not starting either10:46
anthonwsjnk, what i cant understand is why it seems the system has "feelings".... really! at one boot the sound card is working... the other not10:46
jnkanthonws, when it doesn't work, do you get any error, or just no sound ?10:47
Xappetromik, I guess that there is no package with the name X10:47
ellsapokryphosawa, I am backing up all my data first10:48
anthonwsjnk, the error message is that no dsp (device) in available, but in device manager the hardware is there10:48
ozani added multiverse to source.list but it still gives me depend error. Also i tried apt-get install -f option10:48
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jnkanthonws, and the alsa module is loaded ?10:51
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ionsI tried to start CD Player about 10 minutes ago and it's just appearing now10:52
anthonwsjnk, yes. during oot i can see the module loading and, it displays [ok] 10:52
anthonwsjnk, but i can show you the lsmod10:53
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ionsit isn't working correctly of course, just a white window with a title bar10:53
jnkanthonws, in pv10:53
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minimecions: what about the other applications? Are thy running normally?10:53
anthonwsjnk, ok10:53
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ionseverything else seems ok10:55
fscwhat package has the gl and glx headers and dev libraries? mesa?10:55
ionsgrip and gnome-cd are the only 2 I've had a problem with10:55
ionsoh yeah and totem takes forever to start as well10:55
jnkions, but otherwise you can access your cd-rom drive without problem?10:56
ionstop doesn't show it hanging on anything10:56
ionsfirst time I'm trying with this install (install is 2 days old)10:56
minimecions: ok. I was thinking, that you could have the 'kacpi'-problem.10:56
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ionsok just got feedback here10:57
ions$ gnome-cd10:57
ions(gnome-cd:12564): Gtk-CRITICAL **: file gtkmain.c: line 1231 (gtk_main_quit): assertion `main_loops != NULL' failed10:57
minimecions: ... but if the other apps run normally, then you have other problems.10:57
ionsthat took about 3 minutes to appear10:57
ionsjust tried grip again10:59
ionsI'll let you know when something finally happens10:59
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ionsoh it started this time11:00
ionsooook11:00
ionstook long enough though11:00
julkiehOLa11:00
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julkiealguien abla espaol?11:00
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ionswhen I try and quit it's not responding and I have to force wuit11:01
ions*quit11:01
julkietengo un problema con el audio... esta vez que instale ubuntu no instalo la tarjeta.. alguien save que puedo aser?11:02
AndyRhow do i restart cups?11:02
tidalwav1andyr: cupsd? :P11:02
bob2julkie: this is (obviously) an English-speaking channel11:02
ions /etc/init.d/cupsd restart?11:02
minimecAndyR: sudo /etc/init.d/cups restart11:02
GammaRay /etc/init.d/cupssys restart11:02
julkiesorry11:03
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GammaRayerr /etc/init.d/cupsys restart11:03
julkieim looking someone speak spanish =(11:03
AndyRthank you all :)11:04
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LinuxJonesjulkie, join #ubuntu-es11:04
julkieohh tanks!!!11:04
anthonwsjulkie, portuguese would help? heheh11:04
julkieemmm pues parece espaol xD11:05
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anthonwsjulkie, qual o problema?11:05
difetahey all! I'm running the warty live cd. How do it mount the hard drive? I need to copy data off it before reformatting.11:06
julkieubuntu no instalo mi tarjeta de video esta vez11:06
julkiequiero saver como instalo manualmente11:06
AndyRdo i need to edit /etc/cups/cupsd.conf so i can admin from localhost:631?11:06
anthonwsjulkie, entra em privado por favor11:07
minimecdifeta: what filesystem is on your harddrive?11:07
difetaminimec, ntfs11:07
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AndyRanyone?11:09
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yfirhi11:09
yfiranyone know how to get external subtitle files, such as .srt, to work with totem-xine?11:10
minimecdifeta: Hmmm... I never worked with the ubuntu live-cd. I don't know, if you can write in ntfs with the live-cd.11:10
difetaminimec, i dont want to write only read11:10
dev3Has anyone been able to play World of Warcraft on Ubuntu?11:10
minimecdifeta: ok. Let's try. Do you have a usb stick or something?11:11
XappeAndyR, check the file...it is quite straight forward I believe11:11
difetaminimec, yeah11:11
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|QuaD|dev3: thats a win32 game not a linux game11:12
WillCookeI've got a problem!  My /dev/hdb1 won't mount.  It claims to be busy. Any ideas anyone?11:12
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difetaminimec, fdisk -l reports that is could not open /dev/hda, but I just thoguht that this is probably because I'm not root.11:12
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dev3I know.11:12
WarriorSlayerhi guys11:12
minimecdifeta: ok make a directory /winxp or so. Then sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda /winxp11:12
dev3Using Wine maybe?11:12
WarriorSlayersomeone can help me with the istallation making the bootdisk?11:12
|QuaD|dev3: ohhh11:13
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difetaminimec, yeah, i forgot to be root. Just a sec while the live cd boots11:13
WarriorSlayerwhen i give the place where to install lilo11:13
WarriorSlayeri give /dev/fd011:13
WarriorSlayerexpecting it will install in the floppy11:13
SioBuntuhmm11:13
WarriorSlayerbut it fails11:13
SioBuntuhow do i access windows shares from ubuntu?11:14
SioBuntui've set up samba to access ubuntu home dirs from windows, but it doesn't work the other way11:14
SioBuntui can see the other machines on the network, but cant browse their files11:14
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selinium_can anyone help with setting up a epson stylus color 760 printer?11:15
|QuaD|SioBuntu: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#sambaserver11:15
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WarriorSlayersomeone help me setting the lilo or any bootdisk for the ubuntu?11:16
|QuaD|WarriorSlayer: ubuntu uses grub11:16
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WarriorSlayer|QuaD| yep11:17
WarriorSlayerbut11:17
funtoHi everybody11:17
WarriorSlayerwhen i place /dev/fd0 to the grub installer11:17
WarriorSlayerit fails11:17
funtocould someone help me? Yesterday Ubuntu's sound worked very well but today I don't have any sound :'(11:18
|QuaD|funto: what did you do11:18
funtonothing !11:18
funtoI don't understand11:18
|QuaD|funto: i find that hard to believe... did you restart, ugrade... what11:18
funtoI don't know...11:19
funtoI really think I haven't done anything11:19
|QuaD|funto: then i don't know how to help you11:19
funto:(11:19
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funtothanks...11:19
|QuaD|np, when you figure out what you did, come back and i will try to help11:20
jnkfunto, do you get any error (this is the no-sound day)11:20
funtono, I just haven't sound11:20
funtoand it isn't for hardware failure11:20
funtoit works well with Windows11:21
WarriorSlayeralsamixer11:21
WarriorSlayertry the alsamixer11:21
funtoI've run it11:21
|QuaD|funto: SO YOU DID RESTART!!!11:21
funtonothing is off11:21
WarriorSlayerhummm11:21
WarriorSlayertry the window manager sound bar11:21
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funtoit is ok too11:21
WarriorSlayer:/11:21
WarriorSlayerso bad11:22
funtoyou mean the button for controling the volume?11:22
WarriorSlayer|QuaD| man11:22
WarriorSlayerwhen i go install grub11:22
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WarriorSlayerwhat i place to it install in the floppy device?11:22
shadeofgreyokay guys i finally got xmms to output an actual error when i tried to run it11:22
sid77Array 4 is released: http://cdimage... <-- isn't the array-5 already out ;)11:22
sid77?11:22
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|QuaD|WarriorSlayer: i have never installed grub/lilo, sorry, i usually just use the one installed on my distro] 11:22
shadeofgreylibmikmod.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory11:23
shadeofgreyInconsistency detected by ld.so: ../sysdeps/generic/dl-tls.c: 72: _dl_next_tls_modid: Assertion `result <= _rtld_local._dl_tls_max_dtv_idx' failed!11:23
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dc17sid77: array 5 is out11:23
shadeofgreywhat the heck does that error mean?11:23
shadeofgreyand what do i do to fix it?11:23
|QuaD|shadeofgrey: did you try googling that error?11:23
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shadeofgrey|Quad|:  Nope11:23
sid77dc17, I know, I was just pointing out that the topic is collecting dust :)11:24
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|QuaD|shadeofgrey: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-2262.html11:24
|QuaD|shadeofgrey: first reply when i googled it :)11:24
GregoryDhas anyone tried gxmame yet? on Ubuntu?  I can get it to scan mame and audit my files, but nothing shows up in any of the folders afterwards11:24
helio7hey If I just added a launcher to a submenu in the applications menu by running sudo nautilus applications:/// and then dropping it in multimedia, it's visible in nautilus, but not on the menu.  Any ideas why this is?11:24
GregoryDjust wondering if it's a problem with the version on the repository11:24
selinium_heloi7: you need to restart gnome for it to be seen11:25
WarriorSlayersomeone can help me installing grub in a floppy?11:25
ionsjust restart gnome-panel11:25
helio7I thought i did that by logging out. here goes again thansk selinium11:25
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ionskill -1 gnome-panel(pid)11:25
selinium_heloi7: save everything and control/alt backspace11:26
shadeofgreyi dont believe it!  sonofa...  it worked!11:26
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shadeofgreythanks Quad!  your THE MAN11:26
WillCookeIs anyone familiar with the Wiki? How do I add a page to the how-to's?11:26
|QuaD|shadeofgrey: thank google :)11:26
shadeofgreyor.. THE WOMAN11:26
YomicWhere can I find a list of supported hardware for ubuntu and other linux distros?11:27
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ionslinuxhardware.org11:27
WarriorSlayersomeone can help me installing grub in a floppy?11:27
OrangeSlicewww.linux-tested.com11:27
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|QuaD|shadeofgrey: man :)11:27
selinium_Can anyone help with a printer install. I have googled but still dont get it!11:27
p-foxhi all. how do I unrar things? i've installed it from universe, but anything i try to open gives an error11:28
OrangeSliceinstall rar11:28
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p-foxOrangeSlice, not unrar?11:28
OrangeSliceunrar comes with rar11:28
WarriorSlayersomeone can help me installing grub in a floppy?11:28
p-foxapparently rar is installed11:29
OrangeSliceuse 'rar x <archive>'11:29
jnkp-fox, use unrar-nonfree11:29
p-foxjnk, ok i'll try it11:29
OrangeSliceor that11:29
OrangeSlicehehe11:29
Xappeunrar e <archive>11:30
stuNNedunrar sucks, use rar11:30
jnkI think the free unrar doesn't support newer files (with newer algorithm or someting)11:31
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Xappewell, I got mine from rarlabs.com11:31
usualI installed winrar in wine11:32
usualworks great heh11:32
Fator_Deeis there somewhere a definite howto on making an internet-radio with ubuntu?11:33
Xappeusual, feels like cheating :)11:33
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jnknever got any problem with unrar-nonfree from multiverse ...11:33
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Xappejnk, that one should be the same as the one @ rarlabs11:34
jnkok11:34
Xappei guess11:34
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p-foxthanks for the help - working now :)11:37
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elmayain hoary...how to play mp3?11:39
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apokryphoselmaya: See the article on ubuntulinux.org about restricted formats11:39
HrdwrBoBsudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad11:39
elmayammm11:40
helio7If mplayer crashes when I try and play a DVD would you think it's possible an error ocurred during the compiling process?  Could I have caused that by multi-tasking while it was compiling?  (I quit stuff soon after compiler started but maybe not soon enough?) To fix it I can apt-get install on top of the original installation or do I have to uninstall first?11:41
jnkhelio7,  better uninstall (go to the compilation directory and type "sudo make uninstall") although it was certainly installed in /usr/local so no big deal11:42
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elmayaI want my mp3!!11:43
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apokryphoselmaya: By all means, check the article so you can get going. =)11:43
beatreaderHi everyone.11:43
elmayai don't want to read.. i want a solution11:44
apokryphoselmaya: You haven't checked the article. The solution is there.11:44
spadesyou dont deserve mp3 with that attitude :P11:44
beatreaderI'm having trouble getting plone to install on hoary.11:44
jnkelmaya, reading *is* the solution :)11:44
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beatreaderAny thoughts?11:44
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helio7jnk I followed the directions http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=94 do you think i need to unintall the libs and the codecs or just the mplayer itself?11:44
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helio7Also, multitasking during compilation could cause errors right?11:45
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jnkhelio7, no, what you installed  with apt-get should not be a problem11:47
regeyadepends on whether or not you run out of system and swapspace memory, helio711:47
beatreaderAnyone have thoughts on installing plone?11:47
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jacowhat about bug #6763 ?11:47
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|QuaD|beatreader: decent software11:48
pussfellerplone runs on zope which runs heavy and kinda hard to get started with, but its python based which is def plus11:48
|QuaD|i believe ubuntu's website is based on it11:48
pussfellerin gimp, if you select an area, how can you paste stuff into that selection where even if its bigger than the selection, it wont over write the rest of the image11:49
beatreaderSorry...I was referring back to my previous question...how do I install it under hoary?  It's missing dependencies.11:49
regeyasaying plone is heavy is like saying a tactical nuke has some kick11:50
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regeyaplone is amazing, don't get me wrong, but be warned that you need some hefty hardware to run it11:51
regeyamostly a lot of RAM11:51
regeyaand I mean a LOT of RAM11:51
beatreaderyeah but I can't install it.11:51
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ellssorry, what is plone?11:51
ionslike 128MB? ;)11:51
regeyaheh...that stinks.11:51
|QuaD|regeya: intersting.... i don't use any CMS's11:51
|QuaD|so i wouldn't know11:51
victor_hola11:51
beatreaderCan I get it from debian testing?11:52
beatreaderIs it documented how to mix debian testing in with ubuntu?11:52
|QuaD|beatreader: apt-cache search plone11:52
beatreaderQuad:  Are you running hoary?  Try apt-get install plone...you'll see what I mean.11:53
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deki_hallo11:53
bob2beatreader: "don't" is the documentation.11:53
regeya|QuaD|: To be fair, I evaluated it for an in-house project at work, on an OS X machine that had 786 MB of RAM.  What OS X wasn't using, Zope was using before anything ever happened.  I'm guessing that running Plone on an OS X box with less than a gig of ram is a bad idea11:53
deki_bob2, hallo bob11:53
deki_bob2, you was right11:53
bob2I was?11:53
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regeyathis was also on an old G4, and it was taking 30+ seconds to render a page...11:53
|QuaD|beatreader: its there :) i don't want to install it though11:53
beatreaderQuad...are you on hoary?  Try adding -s for simulate.... apt-get -s install plone11:54
regeyamy advice would be that if you don't really need many of the features of plone, turn it into a DIY project, make the elements you need.  in my case, plone ended up being overkill. :-}11:54
|QuaD|beatreader: i can't, i have dependency problems currently because of kde11:55
victor_hola, alguien en Espaol?11:55
regeyawhat are the dependency problems, |QuaD|11:55
beatreaderVictor...mas o menos11:55
elmaya#ubuntu-es11:55
apokryphosvictor_: see #ubuntu-es11:55
beatreaderIt can't find a lot of packages...they don't exist.11:56
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|QuaD|beatreader: talk to an ubuntu developer about that11:56
regeyawhat is it this weekend with people wanting to talk about problems, then when asked, be unnecessarily vague :-/11:56
beatreaderQuad...how do I do that?11:56
|QuaD|say "ubuntu developers, anyone around"11:57
spadesregeya: my sound doesnt work, fix it :(11:57
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regeyaI swear yesterday someone was trolling because when I asked for the specific error message (y'know, just tryin' to help) they said "that wouldn't help" and got huffy11:57
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regeyaand it's been that way every time I've been looking in on #ubuntu...meh.11:57
regeyaspades: fix mine first. ;-)11:57
beatreaderubuntu developers, anyone around?11:57
|QuaD|regeya: who needs the error message when trying to solve a problem :)11:57
bob2beatreader: ask on the user list11:58
beatreaderI'm going to try the ubuntu-devel room...thanks!11:58
|QuaD|regeya: yeah, i am kind of getting sick of helping people, this should be at least the second stop, google should always be the first stop, and people refuse to use google first11:58
beatreaderbob2...I did already?11:58
|QuaD|beatreader: you did?11:58
beatreaderyes.11:58
beatreaderin the last hour or so11:59
regeyaI've been ignoring my problems for a while, and I'm relatively sure that the problem is wonky alsa sources in the kernel.  ran into the same thing on debian, and using a new kernel with official alsa sources fixed it.  I'm way too lazy and don't often need full mixer/etc. support.  I should just fix that.11:59
|QuaD|when? what email address?11:59
bob2er, hitting up that channel for help with unsupported software is not a good idea11:59
bob2beatreader: you have to wait more than an hour11:59
regeyahehehe11:59
victor_thanks apokryphos11:59
bob2most ubuntu developers are asleep right now11:59
|QuaD|beatreader: someone will get back to you soon :)11:59
beatreaderI guess I'll wait then...thanks11:59
victor_join #ubuntu-es11:59
|QuaD|anyone here tried running hula yet?11:59
apokryphosvictor_: No problem. :)11:59

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