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Liz | anyone know if abiword is installed by default?..i only ask cause i know mine was.. | 06:24 |
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Liz | brb | 06:30 |
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plovs_work | morning all | 07:15 |
froud | morning plovs. African greetings | 07:15 |
Kotiro | greetings | 07:16 |
Kotiro | oops | 07:16 |
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froud | Hello Liz | 07:17 |
Liz | hello froud | 07:17 |
Liz | i did have a question earlier.. | 07:17 |
froud | r u normally known as Kotiro? | 07:17 |
Liz | no..as Liz | 07:17 |
froud | yes I saw th equestion, not sure I understand | 07:18 |
Liz | kotiro means girl in maori | 07:18 |
Liz | when i set this system up..abiword was installed by default | 07:18 |
Liz | but i asked a friend..it wasnt installed by default on his | 07:18 |
Liz | so i was just wondering, since i didnt see anything on it in the quickguide | 07:18 |
Liz | if it was installed by default or not? | 07:18 |
froud | No Abiword is not installed by default | 07:19 |
froud | It will only install on Upgrade if you have already got it installed | 07:19 |
Liz | it was already installed | 07:19 |
froud | on new install you need to select it for install | 07:19 |
Liz | then again..i did install ubuntu when it was first released | 07:19 |
Liz | im wondering if it could be because i have a pre-release installation as well | 07:19 |
froud | So it was an upgrade | 07:20 |
Liz | i never got around to doing the full install when the shipit discs arrived | 07:20 |
Liz | tho i have done all the upgrades etc | 07:20 |
froud | most of us are running hoary development branches now | 07:20 |
Liz | ditto..tho i had to go backwards at one part cause of some conflicts i had with other software | 07:20 |
Liz | to get them to work | 07:21 |
froud | strange, I did not have those problems. Have not heard any of the other team talking about it either | 07:21 |
Liz | i have seen in on the mailing list | 07:21 |
Liz | and a friend who i sent my discs too..did have problems with his | 07:21 |
froud | perhaps, I meant to doc team | 07:22 |
Liz | but its to do with monitors and sound cards etc | 07:22 |
Liz | and network cards | 07:22 |
Liz | and video cards | 07:22 |
froud | Yes there are problems in those areas | 07:22 |
froud | most of them are resolved now | 07:22 |
Liz | i just had a problem with mplayer | 07:22 |
froud | why with mplayer | 07:23 |
Liz | not quite sure | 07:23 |
froud | ok | 07:23 |
Liz | when i upgraded, some files just wouldnt install | 07:23 |
Liz | alsa headers, xorg..and some other lib files | 07:23 |
froud | I see dependancy problems | 07:23 |
Liz | yeah | 07:24 |
plovs_work | Liz, abiword is not installed by default | 07:24 |
Liz | which was a little annoying | 07:24 |
froud | normally synaptic will take care of all that for you | 07:24 |
Liz | thansk plovs_work.. | 07:24 |
Liz | normally..but i updated a few programs ..ie ..mozilla..and gaim | 07:24 |
Liz | which doesnt show up on the synaptic lists yet | 07:24 |
froud | gaim is part of hoary | 07:25 |
froud | dunno about mozilla cause I just user firefox | 07:25 |
Liz | yes.its part of warty too | 07:25 |
Liz | after the hassle i had with java..mozilla is staying | 07:25 |
Liz | tho i have both running now | 07:25 |
froud | so I don''t understand the problem | 07:25 |
froud | java | 07:25 |
Liz | what version of gaim do you run? | 07:25 |
froud | whew girl what ar eyou running | 07:26 |
Liz | what versions in hoary? | 07:26 |
froud | I dont run it it's just there, | 07:26 |
Liz | ahh..well ..i do use it | 07:27 |
froud | My hoary boxes are for devel | 07:27 |
Liz | ahhh. | 07:27 |
froud | so hows your patch comming | 07:27 |
Liz | good..i sent it to enrico yesterday | 07:27 |
froud | remember work small patch often | 07:27 |
froud | yes I saw that | 07:28 |
froud | nice one | 07:28 |
Liz | thanks | 07:28 |
froud | no thank you | 07:28 |
froud | you should try some original writing on some of the sections marked help | 07:28 |
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=== Liz is going through quickguide to find help sections | ||
froud | /*[@status="help"] | 07:30 |
Liz | yes..found it | 07:31 |
Liz | im using gedit | 07:31 |
froud | this should help then | 07:32 |
froud | /book[1] /chapter[1] /sect1[4] - id="qg-additional-resources" status="help" | 07:32 |
froud | /book[1] /chapter[3] /sect1[5] - id="qg-office" status="help" | 07:32 |
froud | /book[1] /chapter[5] /sect1[1] /sect2[5] - id="qg-shared-folders" status="help" | 07:32 |
froud | /book[1] /chapter[5] /sect1[1] /sect2[7] - id="qg-time-and-date" status="help" | 07:32 |
froud | /book[1] /chapter[5] /sect1[1] /sect2[9] - id="qg-users-and-groups" status="help" | 07:33 |
froud | /book[1] /chapter[5] /sect1[2] /sect2[1] - id="qg-assistive-technology" status="help" | 07:33 |
froud | /book[1] /chapter[5] /sect1[2] /sect2[2] - id="qg-cd-database-server" status="help" | 07:33 |
froud | /book[1] /chapter[5] /sect1[2] /sect2[3] - id="qg-desktop-background" status="help" | 07:33 |
froud | /book[1] /chapter[5] /sect1[2] /sect2[4] - id="qg-file-management" status="help" | 07:33 |
froud | /book[1] /chapter[5] /sect1[2] /sect2[5] - id="qg-font" status="help" | 07:33 |
froud | /book[1] /chapter[5] /sect1[2] /sect2[6] - id="qg-keyboard" status="help" | 07:33 |
froud | /book[1] /chapter[5] /sect1[2] /sect2[7] - id="qg-keyboard-shortcuts" status="help" | 07:33 |
froud | /book[1] /chapter[5] /sect1[2] /sect2[8] - id="qg-login-photo" status="help" | 07:33 |
froud | /book[1] /chapter[5] /sect1[2] /sect2[9] - id="qg-menus-toolbars" status="help" | 07:33 |
froud | /book[1] /chapter[5] /sect1[2] /sect2[10] - id="qg-mouse" status="help" | 07:33 |
froud | /book[1] /chapter[5] /sect1[2] /sect2[11] - id="qg-multimedia-system-selector" status="help" | 07:33 |
froud | /book[1] /chapter[5] /sect1[2] /sect2[12] - id="qg-network-proxy" status="help" | 07:33 |
froud | /book[1] /chapter[5] /sect1[2] /sect2[13] - id="qg-preferred-applications" status="help" | 07:33 |
froud | /book[1] /chapter[5] /sect1[2] /sect2[14] - id="qg-remote-desktop" status="help" | 07:33 |
froud | /book[1] /chapter[5] /sect1[2] /sect2[15] - id="qg-removable-storage" status="help" | 07:34 |
froud | /book[1] /chapter[5] /sect1[2] /sect2[16] - id="qg-screensaver" status="help" | 07:34 |
froud | /book[1] /chapter[5] /sect1[2] /sect2[17] - id="qg-sessions" status="help" | 07:34 |
froud | /book[1] /chapter[5] /sect1[2] /sect2[18] - id="qg-sound" status="help" | 07:34 |
froud | /book[1] /chapter[5] /sect1[2] /sect2[19] - id="qg-theme" status="help" | 07:34 |
froud | /book[1] /chapter[5] /sect1[2] /sect2[20] - id="qg-windows" status="help" | 07:34 |
froud | /book[1] /chapter[5] /sect1[5] - id="qg-about-gnome" status="help" | 07:34 |
froud | /book[1] /chapter[5] /sect1[6] - id="qg-about" status="help" | 07:34 |
froud | These are all the sections that are marked help as of r546 | 07:34 |
froud | BTW. If you see sections marked review and you think they are as good as finished. Please do mark them complete | 07:34 |
Liz | oh..ok | 07:35 |
Liz | im decided to start from the bottom actually... | 07:35 |
froud | well that is a good way to start | 07:35 |
Liz | yeah.. | 07:36 |
Liz | tho..some things i might have to actually enable, to see what they do..hehe | 07:36 |
froud | If you mark a status as complete and it contains an authorblurb then please <!-- comment the authorblurb --> | 07:37 |
froud | Keep text simple and quick. My thinking is that we need to get at least all texts into the document | 07:37 |
froud | then we can add to it later | 07:38 |
froud | if we have all intro para texts then at least users wont see just the word 'Text' under the screenshot | 07:38 |
froud | from this point we can build more. | 07:38 |
froud | although we must take care not to get to carried away, this is the Quick Guide afterall | 07:39 |
froud | We will have plenty more to write in the User Guide | 07:39 |
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Liz | rightio | 07:41 |
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Liz | hello jeffsch | 08:15 |
Liz | and brb | 08:15 |
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jeffsch | greetings. this is my first irc experience. wow. | 08:19 |
Liz | well then welcome | 08:19 |
froud | hello jeffsch | 08:19 |
froud | welcome to irc | 08:19 |
jeffsch | thanks. I still figuring out how to use x-chat | 08:20 |
Liz | froud..any idea exactly what movement key actually does? | 08:20 |
froud | movement key? | 08:20 |
Liz | under computer, desktop preferences, windows | 08:21 |
Liz | its the last option..ive tried it..but i cant see what it actually does | 08:21 |
plovs_work | Liz, it is to move windows around, usually you grab them with the top-bar | 08:23 |
plovs_work | but you can also press alt and then anywhere in the window press the mousebutton and move around | 08:23 |
plovs_work | good when your window is too big or something | 08:23 |
jeffsch | the help for the movement key is not very clear, is it? | 08:23 |
Liz | ahh..ok | 08:23 |
Liz | no, its not | 08:24 |
jeffsch | i never would have guessed that... | 08:24 |
Liz | i actually asked in teh ubuntu channel..hehe | 08:24 |
Liz | but then screwed up my taskbar and had to restart it | 08:24 |
Liz | froud, if i do an authorburb..im right in putting in my own name yes? | 08:26 |
froud | Yes | 08:32 |
froud | the authorblurbs are used for notes to each other during devel. We comment them out in the release. | 08:33 |
froud | jeffsch: your patch has been applied. Thanks. svn up everyone there are a few sections touched in that patch. :-) | 08:37 |
Liz | sending you my patch froud | 08:38 |
froud | send them on, I'm in the mood for hunking :-) | 08:39 |
froud | feeel like hunking, oh come on and hunk with me | 08:39 |
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Liz | hehe | 08:41 |
Liz | sent | 08:41 |
jeffsch | what app are you all using for changes? I started with gedit, but now trying jedit | 08:43 |
Liz | gedit | 08:43 |
Liz | im used to using that | 08:43 |
froud | jedit is better | 08:44 |
Liz | funny enough, i installed all the files to allow abiword to open it, but it just crashed | 08:44 |
froud | I use Oxygen XML Editor. | 08:44 |
froud | many here use VIM | 08:44 |
froud | some use emacs | 08:44 |
Liz | ive used emacs | 08:44 |
Liz | but i need all my notes on hand..i never remember the commands | 08:44 |
Liz | and i always screw up | 08:44 |
froud | Liz: your patch has been applied. Thanks. everyone can svn up again | 08:45 |
jeffsch | I used emacs a few years ago, but i forgot everything | 08:45 |
jeffsch | i also tried vim, but like emacs, it's a lot of work to get good at | 08:45 |
Liz | ill stick to using gedit i think | 08:45 |
Liz | i use that to edit html pages as well | 08:46 |
Liz | i did use qanta for a while..cause it does php highlighting as well | 08:46 |
froud | any text editor will do | 08:46 |
froud | well I am off to do some other work. yes, I do have other things to do. Thanks for the patches this morning jeffsch and Liz . Made a great start to my day. | 08:47 |
Liz | have a great day | 08:47 |
Liz | i gotta go deal with dinner | 08:48 |
jeffsch | my day is just ending - almost midnight | 08:48 |
Liz | mines still got 6 hours to go | 08:48 |
froud | 09H38 in Johannesburg South Africa and what a sunny morn after two wet days. | 08:48 |
froud | now all I gotta do is get rid of this cold before I travell to Cape Town | 08:49 |
jeffsch | in Vancouver we have just had a week without a cloud in the sky | 08:49 |
jeffsch | after 2 weeks of continuous rain | 08:49 |
Liz | we've had 4 days of afternoon thunderstorms and rain | 08:49 |
Liz | neway..im off | 08:51 |
Liz | see ya later all | 08:51 |
jeffsch | bye. me go too. sleep. | 08:51 |
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Liz | hello abelli | 01:01 |
abelli | Liz: hello | 01:02 |
Liz | how are you tonight? | 01:03 |
Liz | well, its night here | 01:03 |
abelli | well thank you.. | 01:04 |
abelli | im about having lunch. | 01:04 |
Liz | whats for lunch? | 01:04 |
abelli | dunno.. | 01:04 |
abelli | give me 10 minutes | 01:05 |
Liz | hehe | 01:05 |
abelli | "read" you later.. | 01:05 |
abelli | ciao | 01:06 |
abelli | After the ambulances go | 01:06 |
abelli | Is cinderella sweeping up | 01:06 |
abelli | On desolation row | 01:06 |
Liz | hehe | 01:07 |
Liz | later | 01:07 |
Liz | enjoy your lunch | 01:07 |
sivang | hey Liz what's up? | 01:08 |
sivang | how's docing go? | 01:08 |
Liz | its going ok.. | 01:09 |
Liz | i decided to start from the bottom and work my way up | 01:09 |
Liz | how are you sivang? | 01:09 |
Kinnison | 01:10 | |
abelli | back | 01:15 |
abelli | Liz: spagetti && artichoke salad | 01:17 |
abelli | Kinnison: au iz u? | 01:17 |
abelli | doing? | 01:17 |
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Kinnison | pardon? | 01:17 |
Liz | never had artichoke | 01:17 |
abelli | Liz: do you want some | 01:18 |
abelli | ? | 01:18 |
abelli | Kinnison: how are you doing? | 01:18 |
Kinnison | abelli: I'm doing fine thanks. How are you? | 01:18 |
abelli | Kinnison: ill be living again on friday | 01:19 |
abelli | Kinnison: thursday: electrotechnics examination... | 01:19 |
Kinnison | good luck | 01:19 |
abelli | Kinnison: thank you | 01:20 |
Liz | sure abelli..might take a while to get here tho..can you have it here in time for breakfast? :P | 01:21 |
abelli | do you believe in _dhl_? | 01:21 |
abelli | :)) | 01:22 |
abelli | how is life there? | 01:22 |
Liz | not to bad.. | 01:24 |
Liz | hows it up there? | 01:24 |
abelli | fine, thx, but can you define your "here"? | 01:25 |
Liz | new south wales, australia | 01:26 |
abelli | wow | 01:26 |
abelli | ... | 01:27 |
Liz | :) | 01:27 |
Liz | i can see you in italy somewhere..yes? | 01:28 |
abelli | yes | 01:28 |
sivang | Kinnison: ! | 01:30 |
Liz | i could tell from ip | 01:30 |
abelli | Liz: so geek :) | 01:30 |
sivang | Liz: hey liz, it's summer of .au right ? ;-) | 01:30 |
Liz | shhh | 01:30 |
Liz | yes, its still summer here | 01:30 |
sivang | Liz: how did you find out about the docteam? what made you want getting invloved in that? | 01:30 |
Liz | we had a linuxchix meeting here in sydney..and i asked about the documentation projects | 01:31 |
sivang | Liz: is there a website for linuxchix in aussie? | 01:31 |
Liz | ive always been interested in doing some kind of documentation..only cause there is alot of it missing | 01:31 |
Liz | yes..one moment while i find it | 01:32 |
sivang | Liz: who told you about the ubuntu documentation project? | 01:32 |
sivang | Liz: or, who was you referral ;-) | 01:32 |
Liz | http://sydney.linuxchix.org/ | 01:34 |
Liz | sivang, ive been running ubuntu since release..it came up on the mailing list, and also its in the wiki | 01:34 |
Liz | which is where i found it | 01:34 |
sivang | Liz: very nice :) | 01:35 |
Liz | :) | 01:35 |
Liz | its going to be linked with SLUG eventually | 01:35 |
Liz | tho most of our members, are also SLUG members | 01:36 |
sivang | Liz: I started to contribute to ubuntu since before preview was out, and started with the docteam, now I do manily development. | 01:36 |
Liz | id never heard of it till it showed up on the slug mailing list | 01:37 |
Liz | then jeff did a presentation of it just before release at a slug meeting | 01:37 |
Liz | and it appeared again at a install fest that was held at my local university | 01:37 |
Liz | ive been using it ever sine | 01:38 |
Liz | since | 01:38 |
Liz | still trying to get games to work in it..i mean cdrom games | 01:38 |
Liz | im a diablo addict..as well as a neverwinter nights one | 01:38 |
abelli | Liz: i think that cedega can handle them | 01:39 |
abelli | or not? | 01:39 |
sivang | Liz: http://www.linuxchix.org/content/courses/kernel_hacking/ <== wow cool | 01:39 |
abelli | Liz: are you going to have a linux-chix-calendar? :)= | 01:42 |
sivang | abelli: hey hey :_ | 01:42 |
sivang | ;-) | 01:42 |
Liz | abelli, i did do the website.. | 01:43 |
Liz | didnt that is | 01:43 |
Liz | http://www.linuxchix.org/ | 01:43 |
Liz | and abelli, i have heard that cedega will work..but i need to get an external video card first | 01:44 |
abelli | which one? | 01:44 |
Liz | my onboard one isnt supported in linux yet | 01:44 |
abelli | Liz: what is it? | 01:44 |
Liz | my motherboard? | 01:46 |
Liz | its an asus.. | 01:47 |
Liz | i think | 01:47 |
abelli | eheh | 01:47 |
Liz | nite all | 02:09 |
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pro | i have to go all, im busting for a pee. all the toilets are locked and its a 10 min drive home..... | 05:18 |
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froud | Quick Guide status report: 10 items left for review, 9 items need help, 166 items complete. | 06:13 |
=== froud looks around the room for people to volunteer | ||
=== enrico is impressed by the stats | ||
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froud | I think he's playing dead :-) | 06:16 |
enrico | must be, must be :) | 06:16 |
froud | kick him | 06:16 |
Kinnison | nasty people | 06:17 |
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=== enrico is not violent anyway | ||
=== enrico cooks the wet fish | ||
=== froud hears the battle cry, "FREE FOR ALL!!!!" | ||
=== froud brings out the KDE arsenal | ||
froud | OK now I'm ready | 06:18 |
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froud | enrico: I want some tabsco with that fish | 06:19 |
froud | not valium | 06:19 |
enrico | (it's very cheap now with these phantastic pharmacy stores online!) | 06:19 |
enrico | :-> | 06:19 |
froud | Viagra | 06:19 |
froud | anyone know who pro is? | 06:20 |
enrico | pro? | 06:20 |
froud | @ 17:52 pro asked _froud_ you here? | 06:20 |
enrico | I wasn't there | 06:20 |
froud | then says "i have to go all, im busting for a pee. all the toilets are locked and its a 10 min drive home....." | 06:20 |
froud | strange stuff | 06:20 |
enrico | and he doesn't give many details on his /whois | 06:20 |
froud | enrico: any idea why we have 'evolution' twice in the menu system? | 06:22 |
enrico | shouldn't be... | 06:22 |
froud | Once under Internet and once under Office | 06:22 |
enrico | is it two icons next to each other, or in two different menus? | 06:22 |
enrico | Ah, ok. Could be ebcause evo is also an organizer and planner | 06:22 |
froud | Hmm good point | 06:22 |
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froud | Bingo but /me thinks it's a bit pointless | 06:23 |
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enrico | not too pointless: if you put it in Internet, you don't find it if you think at the organizer, and vice vera | 06:24 |
enrico | versa | 06:24 |
froud | Hmm maybe | 06:49 |
froud | enrico: Ok tonight I will commit my last for a few days. I will be away for a few days. Next time I will be abl eto do anyting is on Monday next week. Is there anything that needs doing now, or that will happen while I am away like tagging | 06:50 |
enrico | Needs doing now? Uhm, nothing comes to my mind. I'll have a review of everything in the next days. | 06:53 |
enrico | But I can do tagging, don't worry | 06:53 |
froud | Ok so people can still contribute for the next week or so? | 06:54 |
enrico | Yesterday Kamion told me we can happily wait for mdz to come back (should be in a couple of days) | 06:55 |
enrico | So I take it we're not too strict | 06:56 |
froud | Good if it is one more week, that's what I think we need to put this version on ice | 06:56 |
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abelli | bonne soir | 07:16 |
abelli | froud: woza | 07:17 |
froud | sawubona, gunjani wena | 07:19 |
abelli | vot bever? | 07:19 |
froud | hello, how are you? | 07:21 |
froud | enrico: I see trickie is ticking away on those release notes | 07:22 |
abelli | froud: are you talking with me | 07:23 |
enrico | froud: ticking away? | 07:24 |
froud | enrico: yes, chipping at it bit by bit 'till it is finished. | 07:28 |
enrico | yes, that's very cool! | 07:28 |
froud | trickie just sits in silence and does his thing without anyone noticing :-) | 07:28 |
enrico | I wish Debian had more and more people like that | 07:32 |
froud | he he, wishful thinking | 07:32 |
froud | well I am at 21 commits and 2 patches today. Now were should I work next? | 07:32 |
froud | Im on a roll | 07:33 |
froud | when the end gets near it's a good idea to push harder | 07:33 |
enrico | froud: wow1 | 07:34 |
enrico | froud: wow! | 07:34 |
froud | Jeff and Lizz gave some good stuff in this morning. Quite large patches | 07:35 |
enrico | froud: what you could do? Uhm... we're short of goals for Hoary, it seems :) | 07:36 |
enrico | There's also upstream documentation needing some review, if you have nothing to do :) | 07:36 |
froud | which upstream :-) | 07:37 |
enrico | any? : | 07:38 |
enrico | :) | 07:38 |
froud | Debian is a no go for me. The Karma there is not good for my health. | 07:38 |
enrico | all manpages linking to undocumented should be written; sometimes per-app documentation is awful, stuff like that | 07:39 |
froud | GNOME, I think Shaumn has it under control | 07:39 |
froud | Not today, may be next week | 07:39 |
froud | once I get started I will not want to go to Cape town in the morning | 07:39 |
enrico | but I think you should do that only if, when using hoary, you stumble on some documentation which is particularly bad | 07:40 |
froud | enrico: are your xrefs showing ok in yelp | 07:45 |
froud | mine are all wacked | 07:45 |
enrico | wacked? You mean, xrefs to other doucuments? | 07:46 |
enrico | after installing the package? | 07:46 |
froud | no I am running the development branch, pretty much on the head | 07:46 |
froud | yelp is 2.9.3 | 07:46 |
froud | I have the same problem under SuSE using Yelp 2.6.1 | 07:47 |
froud | Isn't there a newer version of yelp | 07:47 |
enrico | froud: whacked you mean "don't show up?" | 07:49 |
froud | no they are not formatted correctly | 07:49 |
froud | they are in heading style and form a block | 07:50 |
enrico | I'm looking at the one in quickguide.xml:192, and it just doesn't show | 07:50 |
froud | revision of quick guide is 569 | 07:53 |
enrico | yes, they just disappear here | 07:53 |
froud | oh line 192 | 07:53 |
froud | what version of yelp are you using | 07:53 |
enrico | and the next one in 202: disappeared | 07:53 |
enrico | I'd ask Shaun | 07:54 |
froud | mine dont disappear they are just large as if they are headings | 07:54 |
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froud | enrico: where can we checkout the ubuntu copy of Yelp | 08:27 |
froud | Perhaps I can patch the XSL and we can move it upstream | 08:29 |
froud | enrico: Shaunm thinks he has messed up the endterm stuff in the XSL's. Where can I get the Ubuntu src of Yelp so I can patch the XSL. This way it can be fixed in Hoary and we can move it upstream to GNOME | 08:38 |
froud | email me if you have an answer. I am off to bed go to be up at 04H30 | 08:49 |
froud | cya | 08:49 |
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