[04:45] <Treenaks> T-00:15:00
[04:57] <mako> Kamion: around?
[04:57] <Kamion> mako: yeah
[04:57] <mako> ok.. lets find elmo and sabdfl
[04:57] <Kamion> oh hell, CC meeting, I'd forgotten
[04:58] <mako> bad time?
[04:58] <Kamion> no, that's ok
[04:58] <Simira> the meeting's now, right?
[04:58] <TheMuso_> For some it is sorta. :)
[04:58] <mako> in a couple minutes
[04:58] <mako> TheMuso_: well, it's *always* a bad time for somebody
[04:59] <mako> anybody seen mark today?
[04:59] <TheMuso_> I don't mind. At least I managed to get some sleep beforehand. :)
[04:59] <mako> should i call?
[04:59] <Kamion> back in a few minutes, getting food
[04:59] <mako> ok.. if mark's not around when kamion returns, i'll give him a call
[04:59] <elmo_> he's in spain and running low on battery
[04:59] <mako> hmm..
[05:00] <mako> well, might be good to take a look over the wiki pages for the new members
[05:00] <elmo_> err, his phone that is - not him personally ;)
[05:00] <mako> ahh, ok :)
[05:00] <mako> i will sms
[05:00] <Mithrandir> somebody could just ship him a crate if so. ;P
[05:01] <sivang> elmo_: mark is in spain? good for him :)
[05:02] <Simira> I wouldn't mind be there myself right now... *freezing*
[05:02] <ajmitch> morning
[05:02] <TheMuso_> It is a really mild night here in Sydney, quite the opposite.
[05:02] <ogra> hmpf
[05:03] <dholbach> ogra: how cold is it at your place in the mornings? still -8?
[05:03] <Simira> ogra: oh, you finally got the 30cm I send you?
[05:03] <ogra> heh
[05:03] <ogra> dholbach: yup, about that
[05:04] <Treenaks> snow? what's that? :P
[05:04] <dholbach> *shudder* :-)
[05:04] <Kamion> back
[05:05] <mako> alright
[05:05] <mako> i have SMSed Mark but don't know if he will show up
[05:05] <mako> i think we should get started since there a number of things to cover
[05:06] <mako> smurfix: are you around?
[05:07] <mako> alright
[05:07] <mako> unless there are any problems i think we should start at the top of the list
[05:07] <mako> reply-to issue for ubuntu-users
[05:08] <Treenaks> what's the issue, exactly?
[05:08] <mako> i'm not completely caught up with on-list traffic but have gotten no negative feedback to ubuntu-users-owner
[05:08] <ogra> there was no reaction at all i think
[05:08] <mako> http://people.ubuntulinux.org/~mako/cc-summary-20050125.html
[05:09] <Treenaks> mako: no sudden dip in # of subscribers either?
[05:09] <mako> heh, no
[05:09] <mako> i mean, no negative reaction is better than before
[05:09] <mako> when we had at least a minor flamewar fortnightly
[05:10] <mako> i see no reason to change it from what we have
[05:11] <mako> it seems to be either (a) better or (b) the same in the eyes of most users
[05:11] <mako> so, barring any flood of negative reactions in the future which could prompt a reconsideration, i'm happy to just make it permenant
[05:11] <mako> if that sounds sane to others
[05:11] <Treenaks> sounds OK
[05:12] <mako> elmo_, Kamion: ?
[05:12] <sivang> ++
[05:12] <TheMuso_> Sounds fine. The users would be glad to hear that I am sure.
[05:12] <ogra> me too
[05:12] <elmo_> mako: ok
[05:13] <mako> Mithrandir: i'm less than thrilled with it as well.. but i'm happy that i'm not getting followups to me personally that were supposed to be on the list anymoer :)
[05:13] <mako> it's -users only after all
[05:13] <mako> is there anything else anybody wants to add?
[05:13] <Simira> I think it sound good.
[05:14] <mako> otherwise, lets move on
[05:14] <Kamion> mako: ok
[05:14] <Kamion> I echo what Mithrandir said, but I've said that before :)
[05:15] <mako> smurfix: when you appear you can comment on the loco team leaders
[05:15] <mako> smurfix: or it happen happen after the meeting
[05:16] <mako> if it's alright, i think we should handle the normal business before we do new members
[05:16] <Treenaks> go ahead?
[05:16] <mako> ogra: want to go ahead re the new motu?
[05:16] <TheMuso_> np.
[05:17] <ogra> we have had no second reviewer and since we can do it in the fast process yourselves, i would suggest to approve all of the as membrs now
[05:18] <ogra> we can do the MOTU stuff later then, if we got a new second reviewer
[05:18] <Treenaks> ogra: hm?
[05:18] <mako> ogra: and on the angeda, you suggested treenaks
[05:18] <ogra> i'm pretty fresh myself in packaging, so i think its necessary to have someone experienced aside here....
[05:18] <mako> Treenaks: so, how do you feel about reviewing other people's debs
[05:19] <mako> yeah, that's my concern
[05:19] <ogra> i know treenaks was DD for a while before ....
[05:19] <mako> it will be hard to replace haggai 
[05:19] <Treenaks> mako: I'd like that :) I need to pick up packaging again anyway
[05:20] <Treenaks> and I've done some Debian maintaining in the past..
[05:20] <ogra> mako: i really prefer working ooo2 packages ;)
[05:20] <Treenaks> ogra: I'm not going to take over OOo2 packaging :P
[05:20] <mako> Treenaks: right.. but i'm worried about having someone with the ability to really vet packages and maintainers that are coming in on a technical level
[05:20] <ogra> heh
[05:21] <mako> i'm asking if you think you're comfortable in your ability to do so or if you think we should trying to bring in someone else either in addition or in place
[05:21] <Treenaks> mako: well, I did pass the Debian P&P
[05:22] <Kamion> you mean tasks and skills?
[05:22] <Treenaks> Kamion: uh T&S, yes
[05:22] <mako> Treenaks: i'm worried more about tasks and skills
[05:22] <mako> and i see a difference between being comfortable in ability and skills and being able to successfully convince someone by answering questions :)
[05:22] <Treenaks> mako: I can imagine that :)
[05:22] <mako> when i passed NM, i don't think i was a level where i'd want me to have this role alone :)
[05:22] <Treenaks> mako: uh, how do I convince people? :)
[05:23] <mako> Treenaks: i'm just asking you if You are comfortable
[05:23] <Treenaks> mako: I am
[05:23] <elmo_> Treenaks: big sticks usually help
[05:23] <ogra> mako: the reviewing is mostly done in a group, so there are enough eyes to help ....
[05:23] <Treenaks> I've packages lots of stuff internally for my previous job
[05:23] <mako> alright.. :)
[05:24] <mako> is there anyone else that is interested in taking on some responsiblities as part of the MOTU group?
[05:24] <mako> (packaging ninjas encouraged to apply)
[05:24] <crimsun> mako: we peer-review
[05:24] <ogra> dholbach is our current packaging ninja ;)
[05:24] <TheMuso_> I guess so. The accessibility stuff for one.
[05:24] <dholbach> ogra: thanks for the flowers :-)
[05:25] <mako> TheMuso_: this is more for vetting new universe maintainers than for working on any sub-part
[05:25] <TheMuso_> Righto.
[05:25] <mako> crimsun: ok. that's good
[05:25] <ogra> dholbach: you do an awesome job.... so its deserved ;)
[05:25] <Mithrandir> mako: I guess full maintainers don't have to wave their hands?  I do amd64 stuff in both universe and main already.
[05:26] <mako> Mithrandir: if you're volunteering to help approve new universe maintainers.. :)
[05:26] <dholbach> mako: i already did a heap of package reviews, although i'm not a DD or a packaging black belt ninja :-)
[05:26] <dholbach> mako: if you talk about that part of responsibilities :-)
[05:26] <mako> Mithrandir: nobody is going to say no
[05:26] <Mithrandir> mako: I can approve anybody who wants to help out with amd64^W^W^W^W^W^W^W^Wnew subjects. :)
[05:27] <ogra> heh
[05:27] <Mithrandir> mako: I would need to get more familiar with the process first.
[05:27] <mako> Kamion, elmo_: any objections to treenaks?
[05:27] <Mithrandir> since I've only followed our members/MOTU/* stuff cursory.
[05:27] <mako> Kamion, elmo_: as a MOTU approver
[05:28] <Kamion> Treenaks is fine, I think he's one of the names I suggested when ogra asked me about this
[05:28] <mako> perfect
[05:29] <Kamion> I don't see why Mithrandir couldn't help out significantly too
[05:29] <ogra> Mithrandir: you dont need to know the process to review packages....
[05:30] <mako> well barring an objection from elmo, i think you're good to go Treenaks 
[05:30] <elmo_> i'm fine with either treenaks and/or mithrandir
[05:30] <ogra> its just judging the quality.... (a bit of a elmo clone )
[05:30] <Treenaks> mako: OK, thanks
[05:30] <Mithrandir> ogra: if it's just package review, I can help out.
[05:30] <Mithrandir> ogra: I'm harsh when it comes to quality, though. :)
[05:30] <ogra> great !
[05:31] <ogra> :)
[05:31] <ajmitch> Mithrandir: that's ok :)
[05:31] <mako> Mithrandir: thanks, that's great
[05:31] <mako> alright then
[05:31] <mako> in terms of the website review/remake.. jdub is the one who can comment on that
[05:31] <mako> although i know there should be announcement Real Soon Now
[05:31] <mako> unless he shows up, i'm not sure what more there is to say
[05:32] <mako> which brings us to.. candidates for membership
[05:32] <mako> there are pages linked from the wiki
[05:32] <hno73> Well, anyone with wishes or ideas for the website can email henrik@canonical.com
[05:32] <mako> i went through and looked them over already but it's worth doing this
[05:32] <mako> as we
[05:33] <mako> hno73: cool, are you handling this now?
[05:33] <hno73> mako: Yes, for better or worse :)
[05:34] <hno73> I'm sure once I start making drastic changes I'll get some feedback :)
[05:34] <mako> hno73: i won't comment on which i suspect it is ;) thanks for handling it though!
[05:35] <hno73> Heh. I've been keeping busy with this site: http://www.theopencd.org/
[05:36] <hno73> Not as complex as the Ubuntu one though
[05:36] <mako> alright.. so lets start looking at new members
[05:36] <mako> scott ritchie
[05:36] <mako> ogra: isn't scott around a universe maintainer and a member?
[05:36] <ogra> he is the guy that repackaged wine....
[05:36] <mako> right
[05:36] <mako> i don't have a signed CoC but..
[05:36] <ogra> i havent seen any other packages yet...so only for member for now
[05:37] <mako> well i've seen scotts work and i'm happy approving him
[05:37] <mako> elmo_, Kamion: ?
[05:37] <elmo_> no objections, don't enough to comment any more than that
[05:40] <mako> it would be good to get some confirmation from kamion
[05:40] <Kamion> Scott's the wine guy, I'm happy for universe at least
[05:40] <mako> well, this isn't for maintainershp, just for membership
[05:40] <Kamion> absolutely
[05:40] <mako> any decision about universe stuff can be made by teh motu team
[05:40] <mako> awesome
[05:40] <mako> lets move on
[05:40] <mako> scott ritchie = member
[05:41] <ogra> next is wasabi...
[05:41] <mako> Jerry Haltom/wasabi
[05:41] <ogra> (jery haltom)
[05:41] <mako> i've seen wasabi around but am not too familiar with his contributions
[05:41] <ogra> he has already contributed packages....
[05:41] <mako> ogra: 
[05:41] <elmo_> mako: for what?
[05:41] <jbailey> I've been working with him.
[05:41] <jbailey> (wasabi)
[05:41] <mako> membership.. just membership
[05:41] <ogra> ecj-bootstrap
[05:41] <elmo_> fine by me for membership
[05:42] <mako> jbailey, ogra: you'll vouch for the contributions?
[05:42] <ogra> yup
[05:42] <mako> then it's fine by me
[05:42] <jbailey> mako: Yup.
[05:42] <mako> Kamion: wasabi? sound good?
[05:42] <mako> next is Mattias Eriksson
[05:43] <mako> nick:snaggen
[05:43] <Kamion> wasabi++ for membership
[05:43] <mako> small set of packages online here: http://www.acc.umu.se/~snaggen/ubuntu/
[05:43] <ogra> havent looked yet
[05:43] <mako> wasabi = member
[05:43] <ogra> btw, who cares for the Members list 
[05:44] <ogra> ?
[05:44] <mako> i haven't looked at them either but have seen snaggen around
[05:44] <Kamion> snaggen needs to give those packages an Ubuntu-specific version number or denote his changes somehow; they seem to be modified versions of somebody else's packages
[05:44] <mako> ogra: i have a list of signed coc's.. it's not entirely complete
[05:44] <crimsun> ogra: aren't we supposed to? ;)
[05:44] <Kamion> so it's hard to tell how much he's done
[05:44] <Kamion> especially since it's natively packaged rather than .diff.gz
[05:44] <mako> ogra: it doesn't have all the canonical people .. and i haven't gotten signed coc's from most of them
[05:44] <ogra> crimsun: for MOTU i'm happy to do it...but i dont know all the members out there
[05:45] <crimsun> ogra: gotcha.
[05:45] <ogra> Kamion: i'll contact him
[05:46] <mako> see if we can the packages cleaned up and into the archive
[05:46] <ogra> yup
[05:46] <mako> i don't suspect it will be a problem :)
[05:46] <Kamion> ogra: (I've left a note on his wiki page)
[05:46] <ogra> ah, great
[05:47] <mako> Kamion, elmo_: any objection to deferring the decision irt snaggen until next week/meeting?
[05:47] <elmo_> mako: no, sounds like a plan to me
[05:47] <mako> AaronLake
[05:47] <Kamion> yeah, his blog said he installed Ubuntu on 23 Jan, seems kind of soon :)
[05:47] <mako> metalikop
[05:47] <ogra> he helped a lot already...
[05:47] <ogra> on the pythin transition 
[05:47] <ogra> s/i/o
[05:47] <mako> excellent
[05:48] <dholbach> yes... i uploaded 2 or 3 of his python packages 
[05:48] <Kamion> it would be helpful if metalikop would put his contributions on that wiki pgae
[05:48] <Kamion> page
[05:48] <mako> there is very little there
[05:48] <Kamion> the PHP5 thing seems to be there by accident, judging from the history
[05:48] <Kamion> http://www.metallikop.com/blog/index.php?p=50 has some packages
[05:48] <ogra> Kamion: it is on the python transition page
[05:49] <dholbach> they are mentioned here: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/UniversePythonTransitionTODO
[05:49] <dholbach> (quite at the end)
[05:49] <Kamion> but only links to binaries, and the directory gives 403
[05:50] <mako> Kamion: what is your feeling.. ask for a more threshed out page? with contributions?
[05:50] <ogra> lok at imgsizer, cfv, duplicity and gnome-mud in universe
[05:50] <ogra> look even
[05:51] <dholbach> he has them hosted at: http://ubuntu.arslinux.com/hoary/uploaded-to-hoary/
[05:51] <crimsun> I've helped him with package reviews; he's definitely prime for membership imo
[05:52] <Kamion> ok, based on recommendations I'm ok with him for membership, but I'd like him to produce a more fleshed out page before maintainership/MOTU
[05:52] <mako> crimsun, ogra, dholbach: alright.. i'm willing to take your recommendations
[05:52] <elmo_> yeah, me too
[05:52] <mako> great
[05:52] <elmo_> (god we're all so easy)
[05:52] <ogra> heh
[05:52] <dholbach> hehe
[05:52] <mako> LukeYelavich
[05:52] <mako> metalikop = member
[05:53] <mako> luke is TheMuso_, yes?
[05:53] <ogra> havent seen any packages, but he did a reasonable liveCD contribution according to the ML 
[05:53] <TheMuso_> mako: That is me, yes.
[05:54] <mako> TheMuso_: the wiki pages should include information on the contributions to the community you have already done as well as stuff you are interetsed in working on
[05:54] <mako> i guess some of that is there
[05:54] <mako> TheMuso_: want to give us the executive summary?
[05:54] <mako> accessiblity documentation?
[05:54] <mako> ahh.. i remember this thread
[05:55] <sivang> TheMuso_: you can use this page as a template http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SivanGreen :-)
[05:55] <Kamion> I haven't looked at the accessible live CD yet, but if it does what it says on the tin it's definitely a major contribution
[05:55] <TheMuso_> Ok. In the accessibility team area of the wiki, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AccessibilityTeam I have recently created some pages where GNOME apps could be listed as being accessible or otherwise, and also created a page on the Live CD work I am currently doing. This work is also known upstream with the Gnome accessibility devleopers.
[05:58] <ogra> mako++
[05:58] <Kamion> oh, in case it wasn't obvious, my comment above was a vote in favour
[05:58] <TheMuso_> Kamion: The live CD was available on a torrent, however it is currenlty not up atm, and I am not at that box either.
[05:58] <mako> elmo_: ?
[05:58] <mako> NiallSheridan is up next
[05:59] <ogra> dredg
[05:59] <mako> ogra: alright
[05:59] <mako> also done some python stuff, no?
[05:59] <ogra> has helped on the python transition
[05:59] <mako> right, i caught that earlier.. 
[05:59] <ogra> his mbot package is in universe
[06:00] <mako> and has a little repo of packages online
[06:00] <ogra> yup
[06:00] <dholbach> i already uploaded mbot for him, although his NEW packages unfortunately always clashed with other peoples plans :-)
[06:00] <mako> ogra, dholbach: what are you feelings?
[06:00] <ogra> thubs up from here
[06:00] <dholbach> i'd be happy to have him in the MOTU crew :-)
[06:00] <ogra> thumbs even
[06:01] <mako> dholbach: well, bring taht one up with ogra and Treenaks  :)
[06:01] <dholbach> mako: yes... of course
[06:01] <elmo_> mako: I'm okay with it if you two are
[06:01] <crimsun> he's good for membership imo
[06:01] <ogra> so lets make him a member :)
[06:01] <mako> i've seen some of the pythno work
[06:01] <mako> Kamion, elmo_: almost done
[06:02] <mako> Kamion, elmo_: feelings about dredg?
[06:02] <Kamion> sorry, catching up, one sec
[06:02] <dredg> sorry, work kind of got in the way there
[06:02] <Kamion> the wiki pages need to have a more useful <title> than "Ubuntu - wikipage", damnit
[06:02] <dholbach> Kamion++
[06:02] <ogra> Kamion+++
[06:02] <TheMuso_> Agreed. :)
[06:02] <dholbach> hehe :-)
[06:03] <Kamion> dredg: could we have source packages in http://niall.frogstomp.com/ubuntu/, please? hard to tell much from just .debs
[06:03] <dredg> Kamion: yes, of course. that's due for a bit of an overhaul
[06:03] <dredg> Kamion: there are some things in /wip 
[06:04] <dholbach> well and: http://niall.frogstomp.com/python/mbot/
[06:04] <sivang> Kamion++
[06:05] <Mithrandir> (at least his karma :)
[06:05] <dholbach> mbot is in universe
[06:06] <dholbach> i reviewed and uploaded it
[06:06] <ogra> i've seen that one too and it was ok...
[06:07] <Kamion> I'm ok with dredg
[06:07] <dholbach> woohoo
[06:07] <ogra> fine
[06:08] <mako> cool
[06:08] <mako> still waiting on elmo for the last two
[06:08] <mako> on more member candidate:
[06:08] <mako> JaniMonoses
[06:08] <ogra> has worked on pythoncad
[06:08] <dholbach> jani also did some python transition work
[06:08] <elmo_> mako: eh? two?  anyway, ok with dredg
[06:08] <ogra> which is uploaded for him in universe
[06:08] <mako> elmo_: oh never mind.. missed your last message i guess :)
[06:08] <dholbach> i have two packages which just need minor changes to pass
[06:09] <mako> dredg = member
[06:09] <dholbach> well... two packages of  jani 
[06:09] <mako> jani: you around?
[06:10] <jani> here
[06:10] <mako> want to give us the summary of your contributions to ubuntu so far?
[06:10] <jani> one package uploaded by dholbach as part of pythontransition
[06:10] <jani> two more pending review
[06:10] <Kamion> jani: (the text-based bullet point syntax you've used in the rake.1 man page isn't particularly great for man pages, BTW; might want to read groff_man(7) for how to do lists)
[06:11] <jani> one package unrelated to python, new not in debian yet
[06:11] <jani> Kamion: it was either what dh_make generated
[06:11] <Kamion> well, I say "lists", really indents is all you get in -man, -mdoc's better at that
[06:11] <Kamion> jani: no, I'm referring to the text you pasted in, it needs to be reformatted for use in a man pages
[06:11] <Kamion> pages
[06:11] <Kamion> AARGH page
[06:11] <jani> or what I copied form man ls(1)
[06:12] <jani> Ok was my first manpage :)
[06:12] <dholbach> i'm very comfortable with him nevertheless
[06:12] <Kamion> you need to look at the source, not the output :)
[06:12] <ogra> he was very helpful already in the python transition...
[06:12] <jani> kamion, yep man ls(1) viewed with vim
[06:12] <Kamion> anyway, I'm ok with jani
[06:13] <jani> I copied from the osurce
[06:13] <Kamion> jani: let's talk about it separately from the meeting
[06:14] <mako> elmo_: ?
[06:14] <mako> so.. with that out of the way
[06:14] <mako> smurfix: still not around?
[06:14] <mako> is there anyfurther business for the CC?
[06:15] <mako> going once
[06:15] <sivang> ogra: would you be happy with me as a MOTU? I've only worked on the gnome-system-tools and system-tools-backends pkgs 
[06:15] <Simira> is it possible to get the ubuntu-no mailing list open without LoCo up and running?
[06:15] <mako> sivang: lets handle this after teh meeting
[06:15] <sivang> mako: sure
[06:15] <mako> (or in another channel)
[06:16] <Simira> (I've bugged both smurfix and jdub about it, and did send a mail to Jeff as I was told)
[06:16] <mako> Simira: i think the two should go hand-in-hand
[06:16] <Simira> mako: ok
[06:16] <mako> Simira: but i don't see that as a problem.. many loco's are little more than their list and a wiki
[06:16] <Simira> mako: so I'll have to wait for the next cc then?
[06:16] <mako> Simira: not at all
[06:16] <mako> Simira: smurfix can approve you as a loco leader and just tell us about it
[06:16] <Mithrandir> Simira: I could just make brukere@ubuntu.no or something :)
[06:17] <mako> Simira: it can happen latter today
[06:17] <mako> and jdub is the person who can make the lists
[06:17] <Mithrandir> (users@ubuntu.no for those who doesn't do Norwegian)
[06:17] <Simira> Mithrandir: rather translation or oversettelse would be nice
[06:17] <mako> Simira: sound good?
[06:17] <Simira> mako: I did both talk to him on IRC and mail him. But that's ok.
[06:17] <Simira> mako: good
[06:17] <mako> Simira: i think it's a formality at this point. :)
[06:17] <mako> any other business?
[06:18] <Simira> mako: I suppose :)
[06:19] <mako> alright then
[06:19] <mako> Kamion, elmo_: any objections to the same time in two weeks?
[06:20] <Kamion> this time works well for me, although I've noticed smurfix doesn't tend to be able to make this time which is a bit inconvenient
[06:21] <dholbach> jani would still need an ACK of elmo_ i guess?
[06:21] <mako> dredg: yeah.. we'll get to it
[06:21] <mako> Kamion: right, but smurfix is also not here to tell us what time he could make :)
[06:22] <mako> alright, then.. lets say 1600 on the 8th
[06:23] <mako> perhaps a bad time
[06:23] <dredg> mako: hmm?
[06:23] <ogra> oh, yes, we're still missing elmos vote for jani
[06:24] <ogra> (or against ?)
[06:24] <mako> no.. nevermind.. it seems to be a fine time
[06:24] <mako> alright
[06:24] <mako> thanks everybody for showing up!
[06:24] <mako> i'll post a summary
[06:24] <TheMuso_> Welcome.
[06:24] <ogra> mako: jani ?
[06:31] <sivang> thanks all, laterz.
[06:31] <mako> ogra: what abut jani?
[06:31] <ogra> mako: member or not ?
[06:32] <ogra> mako: elmo didnt answer your last question.....and you moved on to loco
[06:35] <mako> ogra: still waiting for elmo. but probably yes
[06:35] <ogra> just thought you missed it :)
[06:47] <elmo_> sorry, had to deal with some people at DC
[06:47] <elmo_> ok with jani, if I'm not too late
[06:56] <metalikop> hi all
[06:56] <dholbach> metalikop: you've been made a member
[06:56] <metalikop> !  Thank you very much.
[06:56] <dholbach> you'll have to read  http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/ubuntu-meeting-current.html , i fear
[06:57] <jani> thanks all
[06:57] <jani> bye
[07:02] <dholbach> bye
[07:44] <mako> elyou're not too late
[07:44] <mako> metalikop: if you wait for a bit, there will be a summary
[07:46] <ogra> mako: http://www.livejournal.com/users/lifeguardasleep/21211.html
[07:48] <mako> nice! :)
[07:48] <mako> ogra: who is lifeguardasleep?
[07:48] <ogra> yup :)
[07:48] <ogra> dholbach
[07:48] <mako> ahh, nice :)
[07:49] <ajmitch> ogra: btw who was chosen to approve new MOTUs & review packages?
[07:49] <ajmitch> Mithrandir?
[07:49] <ogra> and Treenaks
[07:49] <ajmitch> ok
[07:49] <ogra> so we have a fallback if one is missing.... which is a great thing
[07:50] <ajmitch> yep
[08:12] <smurfix> Bah. Last time I was on vacation with a broken hard disk this time I had to fix my uncle's box .. with a broken harddisk. :-/
[08:14] <zul> so suck up to those two :)
[09:20] <smurfix> just for the record, the meeting time is OK for me