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[04:57] mako: yeah [04:57] ok.. lets find elmo and sabdfl [04:57] oh hell, CC meeting, I'd forgotten [04:58] bad time? [04:58] no, that's ok [04:58] the meeting's now, right? [04:58] For some it is sorta. :) [04:58] in a couple minutes [04:58] TheMuso_: well, it's *always* a bad time for somebody [04:59] anybody seen mark today? === elmo_ [~james@82.211.81.249] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [04:59] I don't mind. At least I managed to get some sleep beforehand. :) [04:59] should i call? [04:59] back in a few minutes, getting food [04:59] ok.. if mark's not around when kamion returns, i'll give him a call [04:59] he's in spain and running low on battery [04:59] hmm.. [05:00] well, might be good to take a look over the wiki pages for the new members [05:00] err, his phone that is - not him personally ;) [05:00] ahh, ok :) [05:00] i will sms [05:00] somebody could just ship him a crate if so. ;P [05:01] elmo_: mark is in spain? good for him :) [05:02] I wouldn't mind be there myself right now... *freezing* === Mithrandir fetches Simira a blanket [05:02] morning [05:02] It is a really mild night here in Sydney, quite the opposite. === dredg [niall@malkovich.office.blacknight.ie] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [05:02] hmpf === ogra looks at the 40cm snow outside [05:03] ogra: how cold is it at your place in the mornings? still -8? [05:03] ogra: oh, you finally got the 30cm I send you? === dredg looks at the no snow outside [05:03] heh [05:03] dholbach: yup, about that [05:04] snow? what's that? :P [05:04] *shudder* :-) [05:04] back [05:05] alright [05:05] i have SMSed Mark but don't know if he will show up [05:05] i think we should get started since there a number of things to cover [05:06] smurfix: are you around? === jbailey [~jbailey@CPE000ded9d787c-CM014260028338.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [05:07] alright [05:07] unless there are any problems i think we should start at the top of the list [05:07] reply-to issue for ubuntu-users [05:08] what's the issue, exactly? [05:08] i'm not completely caught up with on-list traffic but have gotten no negative feedback to ubuntu-users-owner [05:08] there was no reaction at all i think [05:08] http://people.ubuntulinux.org/~mako/cc-summary-20050125.html [05:09] mako: no sudden dip in # of subscribers either? [05:09] heh, no [05:09] i mean, no negative reaction is better than before [05:09] when we had at least a minor flamewar fortnightly === Kamion nods [05:10] i see no reason to change it from what we have [05:11] it seems to be either (a) better or (b) the same in the eyes of most users [05:11] so, barring any flood of negative reactions in the future which could prompt a reconsideration, i'm happy to just make it permenant [05:11] if that sounds sane to others [05:11] sounds OK [05:12] elmo_, Kamion: ? [05:12] ++ [05:12] Sounds fine. The users would be glad to hear that I am sure. === Mithrandir is unhappy with it, from a technical perspective, but I can work around it in my MUA. [05:12] me too [05:12] mako: ok [05:13] Mithrandir: i'm less than thrilled with it as well.. but i'm happy that i'm not getting followups to me personally that were supposed to be on the list anymoer :) === seb128 [~seb128@ANancy-151-1-14-133.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [05:13] it's -users only after all [05:13] is there anything else anybody wants to add? [05:13] I think it sound good. [05:14] otherwise, lets move on [05:14] mako: ok [05:14] I echo what Mithrandir said, but I've said that before :) [05:15] smurfix: when you appear you can comment on the loco team leaders [05:15] smurfix: or it happen happen after the meeting [05:16] if it's alright, i think we should handle the normal business before we do new members [05:16] go ahead? [05:16] ogra: want to go ahead re the new motu? [05:16] np. [05:17] we have had no second reviewer and since we can do it in the fast process yourselves, i would suggest to approve all of the as membrs now [05:18] we can do the MOTU stuff later then, if we got a new second reviewer [05:18] ogra: hm? [05:18] ogra: and on the angeda, you suggested treenaks [05:18] i'm pretty fresh myself in packaging, so i think its necessary to have someone experienced aside here.... [05:18] Treenaks: so, how do you feel about reviewing other people's debs [05:19] yeah, that's my concern [05:19] i know treenaks was DD for a while before .... [05:19] it will be hard to replace haggai [05:19] mako: I'd like that :) I need to pick up packaging again anyway [05:20] and I've done some Debian maintaining in the past.. [05:20] mako: i really prefer working ooo2 packages ;) [05:20] ogra: I'm not going to take over OOo2 packaging :P [05:20] Treenaks: right.. but i'm worried about having someone with the ability to really vet packages and maintainers that are coming in on a technical level [05:20] heh [05:21] i'm asking if you think you're comfortable in your ability to do so or if you think we should trying to bring in someone else either in addition or in place [05:21] mako: well, I did pass the Debian P&P [05:22] you mean tasks and skills? [05:22] Kamion: uh T&S, yes [05:22] Treenaks: i'm worried more about tasks and skills [05:22] and i see a difference between being comfortable in ability and skills and being able to successfully convince someone by answering questions :) [05:22] mako: I can imagine that :) [05:22] when i passed NM, i don't think i was a level where i'd want me to have this role alone :) [05:22] mako: uh, how do I convince people? :) [05:23] Treenaks: i'm just asking you if You are comfortable [05:23] mako: I am [05:23] Treenaks: big sticks usually help [05:23] mako: the reviewing is mostly done in a group, so there are enough eyes to help .... [05:23] I've packages lots of stuff internally for my previous job [05:23] alright.. :) [05:24] is there anyone else that is interested in taking on some responsiblities as part of the MOTU group? [05:24] (packaging ninjas encouraged to apply) [05:24] mako: we peer-review [05:24] dholbach is our current packaging ninja ;) [05:24] I guess so. The accessibility stuff for one. [05:24] ogra: thanks for the flowers :-) [05:25] TheMuso_: this is more for vetting new universe maintainers than for working on any sub-part [05:25] Righto. [05:25] crimsun: ok. that's good [05:25] dholbach: you do an awesome job.... so its deserved ;) [05:25] mako: I guess full maintainers don't have to wave their hands? I do amd64 stuff in both universe and main already. [05:26] Mithrandir: if you're volunteering to help approve new universe maintainers.. :) [05:26] mako: i already did a heap of package reviews, although i'm not a DD or a packaging black belt ninja :-) [05:26] mako: if you talk about that part of responsibilities :-) [05:26] Mithrandir: nobody is going to say no [05:26] mako: I can approve anybody who wants to help out with amd64^W^W^W^W^W^W^W^Wnew subjects. :) [05:27] heh [05:27] mako: I would need to get more familiar with the process first. [05:27] Kamion, elmo_: any objections to treenaks? [05:27] since I've only followed our members/MOTU/* stuff cursory. [05:27] Kamion, elmo_: as a MOTU approver [05:28] Treenaks is fine, I think he's one of the names I suggested when ogra asked me about this [05:28] perfect [05:29] I don't see why Mithrandir couldn't help out significantly too [05:29] Mithrandir: you dont need to know the process to review packages.... [05:30] well barring an objection from elmo, i think you're good to go Treenaks [05:30] i'm fine with either treenaks and/or mithrandir [05:30] its just judging the quality.... (a bit of a elmo clone ) [05:30] mako: OK, thanks [05:30] ogra: if it's just package review, I can help out. [05:30] ogra: I'm harsh when it comes to quality, though. :) [05:30] great ! [05:31] :) [05:31] Mithrandir: that's ok :) [05:31] Mithrandir: thanks, that's great [05:31] alright then [05:31] in terms of the website review/remake.. jdub is the one who can comment on that [05:31] although i know there should be announcement Real Soon Now [05:31] unless he shows up, i'm not sure what more there is to say [05:32] which brings us to.. candidates for membership [05:32] there are pages linked from the wiki [05:32] Well, anyone with wishes or ideas for the website can email henrik@canonical.com [05:32] i went through and looked them over already but it's worth doing this [05:32] as we [05:33] hno73: cool, are you handling this now? [05:33] mako: Yes, for better or worse :) [05:34] I'm sure once I start making drastic changes I'll get some feedback :) [05:34] hno73: i won't comment on which i suspect it is ;) thanks for handling it though! === mako has been doing part of that job recently.. certainly for worse ;) [05:35] Heh. I've been keeping busy with this site: http://www.theopencd.org/ [05:36] Not as complex as the Ubuntu one though [05:36] alright.. so lets start looking at new members [05:36] scott ritchie [05:36] ogra: isn't scott around a universe maintainer and a member? [05:36] he is the guy that repackaged wine.... [05:36] right [05:36] i don't have a signed CoC but.. [05:36] i havent seen any other packages yet...so only for member for now === mako nods [05:37] well i've seen scotts work and i'm happy approving him [05:37] elmo_, Kamion: ? [05:37] no objections, don't enough to comment any more than that [05:40] it would be good to get some confirmation from kamion [05:40] Scott's the wine guy, I'm happy for universe at least [05:40] well, this isn't for maintainershp, just for membership [05:40] absolutely [05:40] any decision about universe stuff can be made by teh motu team [05:40] awesome [05:40] lets move on [05:40] scott ritchie = member [05:41] next is wasabi... [05:41] Jerry Haltom/wasabi [05:41] (jery haltom) [05:41] i've seen wasabi around but am not too familiar with his contributions [05:41] he has already contributed packages.... [05:41] ogra: [05:41] mako: for what? [05:41] I've been working with him. [05:41] (wasabi) [05:41] membership.. just membership [05:41] ecj-bootstrap [05:41] fine by me for membership [05:42] jbailey, ogra: you'll vouch for the contributions? [05:42] yup [05:42] then it's fine by me [05:42] mako: Yup. [05:42] Kamion: wasabi? sound good? [05:42] next is Mattias Eriksson [05:43] nick:snaggen [05:43] wasabi++ for membership [05:43] small set of packages online here: http://www.acc.umu.se/~snaggen/ubuntu/ [05:43] havent looked yet [05:43] wasabi = member [05:43] btw, who cares for the Members list [05:44] ? [05:44] i haven't looked at them either but have seen snaggen around [05:44] snaggen needs to give those packages an Ubuntu-specific version number or denote his changes somehow; they seem to be modified versions of somebody else's packages [05:44] ogra: i have a list of signed coc's.. it's not entirely complete [05:44] ogra: aren't we supposed to? ;) [05:44] so it's hard to tell how much he's done [05:44] especially since it's natively packaged rather than .diff.gz [05:44] ogra: it doesn't have all the canonical people .. and i haven't gotten signed coc's from most of them === haggai [~halls@i-83-67-20-196.freedom2surf.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === pitti [~pitti@box79162.elkhouse.de] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === mako nods [05:44] crimsun: for MOTU i'm happy to do it...but i dont know all the members out there [05:45] ogra: gotcha. [05:45] Kamion: i'll contact him === mako would personally be most comfortable putting off a decision on snaggen until the next meeting.. to let the contributions develop a little bit === haggai sighs at bouncy internet connection today [05:46] see if we can the packages cleaned up and into the archive [05:46] yup [05:46] i don't suspect it will be a problem :) [05:46] ogra: (I've left a note on his wiki page) [05:46] ah, great [05:47] Kamion, elmo_: any objection to deferring the decision irt snaggen until next week/meeting? [05:47] mako: no, sounds like a plan to me [05:47] AaronLake [05:47] yeah, his blog said he installed Ubuntu on 23 Jan, seems kind of soon :) [05:47] metalikop [05:47] he helped a lot already... [05:47] on the pythin transition [05:47] s/i/o [05:47] excellent [05:48] yes... i uploaded 2 or 3 of his python packages [05:48] it would be helpful if metalikop would put his contributions on that wiki pgae [05:48] page === mako nods [05:48] there is very little there [05:48] the PHP5 thing seems to be there by accident, judging from the history [05:48] http://www.metallikop.com/blog/index.php?p=50 has some packages [05:48] Kamion: it is on the python transition page [05:49] they are mentioned here: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/UniversePythonTransitionTODO [05:49] (quite at the end) [05:49] but only links to binaries, and the directory gives 403 [05:50] Kamion: what is your feeling.. ask for a more threshed out page? with contributions? === Kamion leaves a blog comment [05:50] lok at imgsizer, cfv, duplicity and gnome-mud in universe [05:50] look even [05:51] he has them hosted at: http://ubuntu.arslinux.com/hoary/uploaded-to-hoary/ [05:51] I've helped him with package reviews; he's definitely prime for membership imo [05:52] ok, based on recommendations I'm ok with him for membership, but I'd like him to produce a more fleshed out page before maintainership/MOTU [05:52] crimsun, ogra, dholbach: alright.. i'm willing to take your recommendations [05:52] yeah, me too [05:52] great [05:52] (god we're all so easy) [05:52] heh [05:52] hehe [05:52] LukeYelavich [05:52] metalikop = member [05:53] luke is TheMuso_, yes? [05:53] havent seen any packages, but he did a reasonable liveCD contribution according to the ML [05:53] mako: That is me, yes. [05:54] TheMuso_: the wiki pages should include information on the contributions to the community you have already done as well as stuff you are interetsed in working on === Kamion digs up the thread [05:54] i guess some of that is there [05:54] TheMuso_: want to give us the executive summary? [05:54] accessiblity documentation? [05:54] ahh.. i remember this thread [05:55] TheMuso_: you can use this page as a template http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SivanGreen :-) [05:55] I haven't looked at the accessible live CD yet, but if it does what it says on the tin it's definitely a major contribution [05:55] Ok. In the accessibility team area of the wiki, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AccessibilityTeam I have recently created some pages where GNOME apps could be listed as being accessible or otherwise, and also created a page on the Live CD work I am currently doing. This work is also known upstream with the Gnome accessibility devleopers. === tseng [~tseng@thegrebs.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === mako followed that thread and a few others luke has participated in.. that plus the documentation counts IMHO === mako votes in favor [05:58] mako++ [05:58] oh, in case it wasn't obvious, my comment above was a vote in favour [05:58] Kamion: The live CD was available on a torrent, however it is currenlty not up atm, and I am not at that box either. [05:58] elmo_: ? [05:58] NiallSheridan is up next [05:59] dredg [05:59] ogra: alright [05:59] also done some python stuff, no? [05:59] has helped on the python transition [05:59] right, i caught that earlier.. [05:59] his mbot package is in universe [06:00] and has a little repo of packages online [06:00] yup [06:00] i already uploaded mbot for him, although his NEW packages unfortunately always clashed with other peoples plans :-) [06:00] ogra, dholbach: what are you feelings? [06:00] thubs up from here [06:00] i'd be happy to have him in the MOTU crew :-) [06:00] thumbs even [06:01] dholbach: well, bring taht one up with ogra and Treenaks :) [06:01] mako: yes... of course [06:01] mako: I'm okay with it if you two are [06:01] he's good for membership imo === mako feeling is a yes as well... [06:01] so lets make him a member :) [06:01] i've seen some of the pythno work [06:01] Kamion, elmo_: almost done [06:02] Kamion, elmo_: feelings about dredg? === dredg spots the glowy yellow [06:02] sorry, catching up, one sec [06:02] sorry, work kind of got in the way there [06:02] the wiki pages need to have a more useful than "Ubuntu - wikipage", damnit [06:02] <dholbach> Kamion++ [06:02] <ogra> Kamion+++ [06:02] <TheMuso_> Agreed. :) [06:02] <dholbach> hehe :-) [06:03] <Kamion> dredg: could we have source packages in http://niall.frogstomp.com/ubuntu/, please? hard to tell much from just .debs [06:03] <dredg> Kamion: yes, of course. that's due for a bit of an overhaul [06:03] <dredg> Kamion: there are some things in /wip [06:04] <dholbach> well and: http://niall.frogstomp.com/python/mbot/ [06:04] <sivang> Kamion++ === Mithrandir watches Kamion overflow and become -(2^64-1) [06:05] <Mithrandir> (at least his karma :) [06:05] <dholbach> mbot is in universe [06:06] <dholbach> i reviewed and uploaded it [06:06] <ogra> i've seen that one too and it was ok... [06:07] <Kamion> I'm ok with dredg [06:07] <dholbach> woohoo [06:07] <ogra> fine [06:08] <mako> cool [06:08] <mako> still waiting on elmo for the last two [06:08] <mako> on more member candidate: [06:08] <mako> JaniMonoses [06:08] <ogra> has worked on pythoncad [06:08] <dholbach> jani also did some python transition work [06:08] <elmo_> mako: eh? two? anyway, ok with dredg [06:08] <ogra> which is uploaded for him in universe [06:08] <mako> elmo_: oh never mind.. missed your last message i guess :) [06:08] <dholbach> i have two packages which just need minor changes to pass [06:09] <mako> dredg = member [06:09] <dholbach> well... two packages of jani [06:09] <mako> jani: you around? [06:10] <jani> here [06:10] <mako> want to give us the summary of your contributions to ubuntu so far? [06:10] <jani> one package uploaded by dholbach as part of pythontransition [06:10] <jani> two more pending review [06:10] <Kamion> jani: (the text-based bullet point syntax you've used in the rake.1 man page isn't particularly great for man pages, BTW; might want to read groff_man(7) for how to do lists) [06:11] <jani> one package unrelated to python, new not in debian yet [06:11] <jani> Kamion: it was either what dh_make generated [06:11] <Kamion> well, I say "lists", really indents is all you get in -man, -mdoc's better at that [06:11] <Kamion> jani: no, I'm referring to the text you pasted in, it needs to be reformatted for use in a man pages [06:11] <Kamion> pages [06:11] <Kamion> AARGH page [06:11] <jani> or what I copied form man ls(1) [06:12] <jani> Ok was my first manpage :) [06:12] <dholbach> i'm very comfortable with him nevertheless [06:12] <Kamion> you need to look at the source, not the output :) [06:12] <ogra> he was very helpful already in the python transition... [06:12] <jani> kamion, yep man ls(1) viewed with vim [06:12] <Kamion> anyway, I'm ok with jani [06:13] <jani> I copied from the osurce [06:13] <Kamion> jani: let's talk about it separately from the meeting === mako is alright with jani also [06:14] <mako> elmo_: ? [06:14] <mako> so.. with that out of the way [06:14] <mako> smurfix: still not around? [06:14] <mako> is there anyfurther business for the CC? [06:15] <mako> going once [06:15] <sivang> ogra: would you be happy with me as a MOTU? I've only worked on the gnome-system-tools and system-tools-backends pkgs [06:15] <Simira> is it possible to get the ubuntu-no mailing list open without LoCo up and running? [06:15] <mako> sivang: lets handle this after teh meeting [06:15] <sivang> mako: sure [06:15] <mako> (or in another channel) [06:16] <Simira> (I've bugged both smurfix and jdub about it, and did send a mail to Jeff as I was told) [06:16] <mako> Simira: i think the two should go hand-in-hand [06:16] <Simira> mako: ok [06:16] <mako> Simira: but i don't see that as a problem.. many loco's are little more than their list and a wiki [06:16] <Simira> mako: so I'll have to wait for the next cc then? [06:16] <mako> Simira: not at all [06:16] <mako> Simira: smurfix can approve you as a loco leader and just tell us about it [06:16] <Mithrandir> Simira: I could just make brukere@ubuntu.no or something :) [06:17] <mako> Simira: it can happen latter today [06:17] <mako> and jdub is the person who can make the lists [06:17] <Mithrandir> (users@ubuntu.no for those who doesn't do Norwegian) [06:17] <Simira> Mithrandir: rather translation or oversettelse would be nice [06:17] <mako> Simira: sound good? [06:17] <Simira> mako: I did both talk to him on IRC and mail him. But that's ok. [06:17] <Simira> mako: good [06:17] <mako> Simira: i think it's a formality at this point. :) [06:17] <mako> any other business? [06:18] <Simira> mako: I suppose :) [06:19] <mako> alright then [06:19] <mako> Kamion, elmo_: any objections to the same time in two weeks? [06:20] <Kamion> this time works well for me, although I've noticed smurfix doesn't tend to be able to make this time which is a bit inconvenient [06:21] <dholbach> jani would still need an ACK of elmo_ i guess? [06:21] <mako> dredg: yeah.. we'll get to it [06:21] <mako> Kamion: right, but smurfix is also not here to tell us what time he could make :) [06:22] <mako> alright, then.. lets say 1600 on the 8th [06:23] <mako> perhaps a bad time [06:23] <dredg> mako: hmm? [06:23] <ogra> oh, yes, we're still missing elmos vote for jani [06:24] <ogra> (or against ?) [06:24] <mako> no.. nevermind.. it seems to be a fine time === hno73 [~Henrik@henrik.gotadsl.co.uk] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] [06:24] <mako> alright [06:24] <mako> thanks everybody for showing up! [06:24] <mako> i'll post a summary [06:24] <TheMuso_> Welcome. [06:24] <ogra> mako: jani ? [06:31] <sivang> thanks all, laterz. === sivang [~sivang@box79162.elkhouse.de] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] [06:31] <mako> ogra: what abut jani? [06:31] <ogra> mako: member or not ? [06:32] <ogra> mako: elmo didnt answer your last question.....and you moved on to loco [06:35] <mako> ogra: still waiting for elmo. but probably yes [06:35] <ogra> just thought you missed it :) === TheMuso_ [~luke@dip-220-235-102-158.nsw.westnet.com.au] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] [06:47] <elmo_> sorry, had to deal with some people at DC [06:47] <elmo_> ok with jani, if I'm not too late === metalikop [i@pcp0011431183pcs.sothfd01.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [06:56] <metalikop> hi all [06:56] <dholbach> metalikop: you've been made a member [06:56] <metalikop> ! Thank you very much. [06:56] <dholbach> you'll have to read http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/ubuntu-meeting-current.html , i fear [06:57] <jani> thanks all [06:57] <jani> bye === jani [~jani@iv.ro] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] [07:02] <dholbach> bye === dholbach [~daniel@td9091c8b.pool.terralink.de] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Verlassend"] === dredg [niall@malkovich.office.blacknight.ie] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Leaving"] === elmo_ [~james@82.211.81.249] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] === amu [amu@amu.developer.debian] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [07:44] <mako> elyou're not too late [07:44] <mako> metalikop: if you wait for a bit, there will be a summary === seb128 [~seb128@ANancy-151-1-14-133.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["I] [07:46] <ogra> mako: http://www.livejournal.com/users/lifeguardasleep/21211.html [07:48] <mako> nice! :) [07:48] <mako> ogra: who is lifeguardasleep? [07:48] <ogra> yup :) [07:48] <ogra> dholbach [07:48] <mako> ahh, nice :) [07:49] <ajmitch> ogra: btw who was chosen to approve new MOTUs & review packages? [07:49] <ajmitch> Mithrandir? [07:49] <ogra> and Treenaks [07:49] <ajmitch> ok [07:49] <ogra> so we have a fallback if one is missing.... which is a great thing [07:50] <ajmitch> yep === tseng [~tseng@thegrebs.com] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] [08:12] <smurfix> Bah. Last time I was on vacation with a broken hard disk this time I had to fix my uncle's box .. with a broken harddisk. :-/ [08:14] <zul> so suck up to those two :) === pitti [~martin@box79162.elkhouse.de] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === pitti [~martin@box79162.elkhouse.de] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [09:20] <smurfix> just for the record, the meeting time is OK for me === pitti [~martin@box79162.elkhouse.de] has left #ubuntu-meeting []