[12:00] sleep does help [12:01] heh [12:01] AndyR: sadly not. i lack necessary funds atm :) === mxpxpod [~bryan@mxpxpod.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:01] dredg, same here [12:01] mxpxpod: hey === dredg will instead be spending the weekend beating apps that depend on python with a Big Stick (tm) [12:02] thom: when did you start working on the pmi? [12:02] tseng: hey [12:02] mxpxpod: did you by chance try my muine package in hoary? [12:02] mxpxpod: i got a bug that says its b0rk on ppc, but only one report [12:03] tseng: yeah, but since polypaudio is being freaky, I can't listen to music right now [12:03] you cant kill it and use alsasink? [12:03] hold on [12:03] id hate to be out of music :P [12:03] polypaudio fixes sound in skype :) [12:04] tseng: ok, using alsasink, it works [12:04] holly shit [12:04] mxpxpod: hm so you didnt install anything extra? [12:04] tseng: no, not that I know of [12:04] dredg: yeah MOTU power :) [12:04] i just installed debian's mozilla-firefox package on my ubuntu box [12:04] guess what [12:04] it works [12:04] looks like tracking the bug will be much easier [12:05] mxpxpod: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6805 < this sounded fishy from the start [12:05] mxpxpod: seeing as it works for you.. very fishy indeed. [12:05] ok, I gotta get going [12:05] what's thom's email addy? [12:05] cya, thanks [12:05] ill check the ml [12:06] sabdfl: sounds promising [12:06] thom@ubuntu.com works mxpxpod === T-Bone looks at ubuntu changelog [12:07] ogra: well, for now catching up with the ones i sent to dh for review. i'm learning that caffeine + no sleep is not really conducive to working packages :) [12:07] man i don't sleep enough [12:08] yeah, thats a sideeffect....you get used to it ;) [12:08] thanks tseng [12:08] ogra: :) [12:08] oh, and muine++ [12:09] especially if, like me, you like to listen to albums. damn nice. [12:09] tseng: yeah, I don't like how the alsa sink sounds... it can be very jerky [12:09] haggai: ping, re: oo.o2 [12:09] tseng: so I'm waiting for the polypaudio stuff to be fixed [12:09] mxpxpod: k. thanks for testing though [12:10] mxpxpod: really? i haven't used a sound daemon in a few years [12:10] dredg: ppc? [12:10] oh my, i didn't even know suspicous minds was an elvis song [12:10] mxpxpod: ah, no :) [12:11] strange... gnome-volume-control is segfaulting [12:11] tseng, mxpxpod: disable the alsa sink [12:11] jdub: huh? [12:11] jdub: hm? [12:11] oh in polypaudio [12:11] not gst [12:11] on ppc, disable the polypaudio alsa sink [12:13] so it's either Pango or IDN at fault, afaics [12:13] jdub: I still get an assertion... it says something about the sink disconnecting [12:14] jdub: what's the status of that bug which causes the login sound not to play? is there a bug open in bugzilla? [12:14] I have to get going [12:14] jdub: I'll talk to you more about this tomorrow [12:16] mdz: lennart is looking at it; don't think there is actually - i'll add one if not [12:16] mdz: would it be possible that if the compiler blurped when building firefox, the package generated would have lived 2 weeks? ie, there's no "auto-rebuild-everything' yet, right? [12:17] tseng: btw, muine works great [12:17] no problems here [12:17] mxpxpod: thanks dude [12:17] ill quote you on that :P === T-Bone will try to demonstrate that rebuilding the pristine mozilla 1-6ubuntu1 package will yield a working executable [12:21] T-Bone: the most recent build was successful; successful builds are not retried [12:23] ok [12:23] mdz: i hope that's something like that [12:23] mdz: that would explain why thom's build worked too [12:24] mdz: pong, half completed message re oo2 in Draft folder [12:27] maybe there's hope to fix these two issues during this weekend, after all... === T-Bone is having high hopes while firefox is building [12:28] mdz: mail completed and sent. I had been looking at the gcj status === abelli [~abelli@host-84-222-38-51.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === T-Bone is having a message "this certificate belongs to bugzilla.ubuntu.com" when connecting to launchpad.ubuntu.com... [12:38] night everyone === remi` [~remi@carnot-1-81-57-12-51.fbx.proxad.net] has left #ubuntu-devel ["chuis] [12:46] night all [12:46] night sabdfl === sabdfl [~mark@host217-37-231-28.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === zul [~chuck@CPE0006258ec6c2-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:47] hey === rjo [~jordens@rjo.developer.debian] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:50] mdz: is it ok if we close those inotify related bugs? [12:52] zul: if we still plan to move to inotify eventually, they should be downgraded but not closed [12:53] ok.. [12:53] zul: are there other bugs which should be reopened due to disabling inotify? [12:53] i can check [12:54] 7 i know of plus the one i have and the duplicates === ironwolf [~ironwolf@c-24-6-169-124.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:07] jdub,zul: was it dnotify->inotify which fixed the problems with being unable to unmount removable devices sometimes? or was that fam->gamin? [01:08] i was able to reproduce the problems with fam->gamin [01:09] i didnt have a usb key with me to test the unmounting removable drives since i was at work at the time [01:11] zul: I've done a little testing with noinotify, and I don't seem to have the old problems of being unable to unmount [01:12] mdz: 2.6.10.4-23? === Nafallo [~nafallo@h58n4c2o1027.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:17] hm, no elmo around to request sync [01:19] zul: yes [01:19] ajmitch: email works [01:19] mdz: yes, there is that [01:19] mdz: ok ill put it on my todo list this weekend === hawke [~hawke@hawkesnest.net] has left #ubuntu-devel ["corking] [01:21] mdz: gamin is less bugged than fam in this area but inotify really fixes the issue [01:22] seb128: by keeping inotify off? [01:22] jdub,zul: was it dnotify->inotify which fixed the problems with being unable to unmount removable devices sometimes? or was that fam->gamin? [01:22] k [01:22] :-( [01:22] about this [01:22] so now we will encounter those problems again, since we have disabled inotify [01:22] inotify doesn't need to open a fd on the device [01:22] mdz: upload@u.o? [01:22] probably .. === elmo [~james@george.kkhotels.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:31] hmm [01:31] so here it is: [01:31] mozilla-firefox works fine as long as you don't install any locale packe [01:31] -e === T-Bone wonders if that could be related to the fact that language support is missing === T-Bone is highly tempted to think so === elmo__ [~james@george.kkhotels.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:36] confirmed [01:37] firefox 1.0+dfsg.1-2 segfaults the same way while it works just fine on my debian system [01:40] zul: do you have a master bug for the hang-on-unmount issue with inotify? [01:40] zul: 6877 is a duplicate of it [01:41] mdz: just fyi, seems that oo.o is also somehow the culprit for the mozilla bug... [01:41] mdz: no i dont ill create one right now [01:43] mdz: #6929. [01:43] seb128: inotify fixes that [01:43] T-Bone: interesting [01:43] seb128: when it's not hanging your kernel ;) [01:44] jdub: mdz: gamin is less bugged than fam in this area but inotify really fixes the issue [01:44] jdub: yeah :) [01:44] yeah :) [01:44] heh [01:44] so, i think we should pull in inotify updates [01:44] lamont: a good way to check that would be to try removing language packs on a known working hoary box (x86/ppc/whatever) and see if installing a mozilla locale kills it the same way [01:44] but i'm not too worried if we disable it for the release [01:45] lamont: if it does then we're all setup -ENOTIA64BUG, if it doesn't then it's ia64-specific but not mozilla specific, probably something weird in the language support system [01:45] my bet is on the first case [01:45] jdub: is there a working inotify ? [01:45] seb128: rml's doing lockless work that will arrive as 0.20 most likely [01:46] jdub: the gnome-control-center's maintainer in debian works as a kernel guy for mandrake and according to him they don't have such issues with new versions [01:46] jdub: I'll poke him again [01:46] seb128: 0.19? [01:46] jdub: got an idea when 0.20 when? [01:47] zul: i'll ping rml for info [01:47] k great [01:47] jdub: I spoke with him like 1 week ago and according to him they have fixed their issues with inotify [01:47] seb128: hrm, rml may have folded it in to 0.19 updates [01:47] hmm. [01:47] seb128: cooker kernel? [01:47] I think he's working for 10.2 [01:48] dunno how they handle the different branches [01:48] cooker is their devel branch [01:48] zul: thanks [01:48] zul: perhaps check what mdk are doing in cooker [01:48] yeah, but they are probably already frozen for 10.2 ? === BlackHussar [~chatzilla@corp.stamps.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:48] seb128: no idea ;-) [01:48] hopefully they have public srpms though [01:48] rml isn't around atm [01:49] jdub: who should own gnome-app-install bugs in Bugzilla? [01:49] mdz: me, might switch owner/qa to me and ross later [01:49] zul: email? [01:50] jdub: zulcss@gmail.com [01:51] zul: mailed rml, cc'ed you :) [01:52] thanks [01:52] mdz: is it possible to add the kernel-team so when there is a bug report for the kernel that they get notified as well? [01:52] we can add kernel-team to the qa contact for the kernel packages [01:52] can do now if you want [01:52] sure [01:53] zul: sure, what is the email address for the kernel team? [01:53] mdz: doing atm [01:53] ok [01:54] (kernel-team@lists.ubuntu.com btw, which you should probably join :) [01:54] heh..alrady on [01:55] thanks jdub/mdz [01:55] do you want l-r-m too? [01:56] lamont: ^^^ [01:56] jdub: I thought that was daniels... [01:56] should it be kernel team? [01:56] those tend to mostly be X borkage, although some firmware stuff finds its way in there [01:57] if daniels thinks so, I agree [01:57] I don't want to steal it from him and all that. :-P [01:58] bbiam [01:59] ok, only changing qa contact for now anyway [01:59] ahar! [01:59] time to go to codefest [01:59] where tehre will be lots of ubuntu usres [01:59] time to feed horses [01:59] and ubuntu a11y hacking :) [02:02] bbl [02:05] $ su - [02:05] Sorry. [02:05] hmm. === schweeb [~chris@schweeb.org] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:07] elmo_: context? [02:07] mdz: would we regard udev not even installing or upgrading on 2.4 systems as NOTUBUNTU? [02:08] mdz: sarge -> hoary; it's the usual libc6 upgrade fux0rs libnss-db [02:10] jdub: I think we would need to fix that in order to support upgrades from 2.4 systems [02:10] elmo_: I thought that typically only fux0red running processes [02:11] mdz: until make is rerun, libnss-db stuff isn't recognised, for new or running processes [02:11] heh, libc6.1 is 'optional' in our overrides [02:13] mdz: it's not disastrous, as long as you have a privleged non-libnss-db account or a cron'ed regeneration.. [02:13] mdz: yeah, i now have a linode (uml), and stuck without ubuntu-base due to udev [02:14] (though after that, i removed most of ubuntu-base for space reasons) [02:14] reminds me, must build a ubuntu fs for uml === HiddenWolf [~hidde@136.137.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:20] someone want to take a look at this before i send it out? http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/UbuntuDownUnder [02:20] go ahead and makes changes to ti === hawke [~hawke@hawkesnest.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:21] mako: when do you want to send it? [02:21] i'm writing up the announcement now [02:21] i'll be ready in like 15-20 minutes max [02:21] hrm [02:21] want to wait? === lamont is back [02:22] nah, not worth it === jinty [~jinty@115.Red-80-24-9.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ajmitch reads [02:23] what would we wait for? [02:23] where in Sydney will it be? [02:23] ajmitch: rushcutters bay [02:23] joy, ANZAC day in .au [02:23] ajmitch: south of the harbour, near potts point [02:23] alright [02:23] so we can perve on celebs [02:23] jdub: we want to set a deadline for sponsorship that's mid-march [02:24] mako: ah, there will be sponsorship? [02:24] mako: just thinking about missing info, but we can fill that in later, not important right now [02:24] ajmitch: yes [02:24] ajmitch: it's in the page :) === ajmitch must have an old page in the cache :) === dredg will not be attending (unless someone wants to donate heavily to the dredg fund) ;) === ajmitch is hoping to attend [02:26] ajmitch: you're in the right hemisphere at least :) [02:26] dredg: just a quick hop across the tasman.. [02:26] pity about the steep sydney airport taxes though [02:26] jdub: how far from there to lewisham? :) [02:27] not far really [02:27] 20min drive? [02:27] great, there's some people there I want to meet up with [02:27] without traffic [02:27] but being sydney... :) [02:28] so many australians... [02:28] sydney's a country town compared to LA [02:28] NY === mako has one at his house already [02:28] well I got used to a 1hr+ commute into the CBD from where I was staying in melbourne [02:28] it's like the frog in hot water technique [02:28] jdub: think i should send this announce? [02:29] jdub: to -announce even [02:29] jdub: or -news [02:29] announce [02:29] cool [02:29] silbs asked you to? [02:29] it was implied [02:29] heh [02:29] but it seems sensible [02:30] worth announcing "conference will be here, on these dates, more info to come" anyway [02:30] and "if you want sponsorship, this is the place to sign up" [02:30] AEROBUCKS HERE ---> [02:30] we'l have a list of interested people to mail with new information in the future [02:30] hm, should I consider applying? [02:30] ajmitch: yes [02:31] ajmitch: priority goes to people in the region, so yeah, hell yeah === ajmitch adds his name [02:31] last time, *most* people who applied got funding [02:31] daniels is not allowed to go >:| [02:31] our wedding is on the 30th [02:32] our being you and daniels? :) [02:32] <3 [02:32] does daniels know about this? [02:32] his imminent matrimonial state === T-Bone fortunes [02:33] imminent? dude, he's married to ME [02:33] :o [02:33] he never told me that [02:33] he didn't want to < 3 your <3 === ajmitch grovels for $ [02:33] wifi is slow [02:34] daniels: fscking bigamist === mako just read "wifi" as "wife" [02:34] jdub: yes, I just rsynced a few hundred MB of ubuntu packages via 11b [02:34] painful === jdub is doing i386 install/live cds atm [02:34] thought i'd be out of here already [02:39] ok.. i'm gonnna announce this shindig === sm [~simon@lsanca1.ar5-4.15.71.34.lsanca1.dsl-verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jinty [~jinty@115.Red-80-24-9.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:47] back [02:50] wb zul [02:51] 1306 kept, 463 moved, 490 deleted. [02:51] ubuntu-bugs is winning [02:55] gah, my eyes are closing :P === T-Bone calls it a night === T-Bone is now known as T-None === lamont heads off to class for a while === cleaverAlf [mike@66-2-58-67-hou-03.cvx.algx.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:04] i just received a STACK of Ubuntu in the mail but neither the LiveCD or Install CD will run on my little test system. Gigabyte MB GA5-AX, Adaptec 2940UW scsi controller, 18gb scsi 3 disk, 6x scsi CDRW, vodoo3 video card and Viewsonic 17GL monitor, and AMD800Mhz Athalon cpu. [03:05] cleaverAlf: file a bug report at bugzilla.ubuntu.com with exact details about what you tried, and how it failed [03:06] np.. thanx.. === cleaverAlf [mike@66-2-58-67-hou-03.cvx.algx.net] has left #ubuntu-devel ["elvis] === Safari_Al [~tr@ppp47-105.lns1.adl1.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:21] i 2.4 actually supported? [03:21] gah...stupid keyboard [03:28] zul: no, since you need /sys to use HAL [03:40] too late in the freeze for mutt-ng? === AndyFitz [~root@220-245-97-227-qld-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:08] whiprush: ha ha [04:10] hey no laughing, I've fixed 2 lintian errors on it already. :p [04:11] whiprush: certainly a universe candidate candidate :) [04:11] yeah, obviously [04:11] I didn't mean in main [04:11] heh [04:17] jdub: got any word on freeze dates for universe? [04:17] like how much slack we have to get new packages in, python pkgs transitioned to 2.4 :) === davyd [~davyd@cugglephone.madeley.id.au] has left #ubuntu-devel [""] === tritium [~tritium@12-202-90-180.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === EvaSDK [eva@81.56.234.40] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:44] ok pals... i'm off to bed [04:44] it's 4:44 already [04:44] *yawn* [04:45] night dholbach [04:45] sleep tight === ogra [~ogra@pD95F86ED.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:49] *wave* [05:00] hey ogra [05:52] jdub: they're using 2.4 UML? === AndyFitz [~root@220-245-97-227-qld-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === moquist [~moquist@pool-68-237-139-219.man.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:16] mdz: yeah, they have an experimental 2.6, but mostly 2.4 === lamont heads to sleep. busy day tomorrow, for at least the first several hours. === mdz [~mdz@ca-studio-bsr1o-251.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mdz_ [~mdz@ca-studio-bsr1o-251.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === abelli [~abelli@host-84-222-38-51.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === abelli_ [~abelli@host-84-222-38-51.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === svenl_ [~luther@AStrasbourg-251-1-55-141.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sabdfl [~mark@host217-37-231-28.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === BlackHussar [~BlackHuss@dsl081-081-225.lax1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jinty [~jinty@115.Red-80-24-9.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === abelli [~abelli@host-84-222-39-116.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === [m0rph] [~morph@p213.54.142.98.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:57] morning [09:58] g'morning === sid77 [~sid77@ppp-217-166.30-151.libero.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:14] hi === sid77 [~sid77@ppp-217-166.30-151.libero.it] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Don't] === jinty [~jinty@115.Red-80-24-9.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === bronson [~bronson@node-40240852.sjc.onnet.us.uu.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === AndyFitz [~root@220-245-97-227-qld-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === rubenv [~lambda1@ctse7.ulb.ac.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === opi [~emil@217.153.156.1] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tritium [~tritium@12-202-90-180.client.insightBB.com] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === Alessio [~Alessio@host146-69.pool8255.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dholbach [~daniel@td9091ca4.pool.terralink.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:28] hai [11:31] now this is funny: just for the fun of it, i started using arabic locale in gnome, but seems like loads of apps didnt understand to switch back the orientation, when i switched back to german (some still have arabic captions) [11:31] wow [11:34] <_d4vid> http://www.francesfarmersrevenge.com/stuff/archive/news/archive/parishiltonaddressbook.htm === Nafallo [~nafallo@h58n4c2o1027.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tritium [~tritium@12-202-90-180.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:57] ajmitch, you around? [11:57] yes, I am [11:57] hi tritium! [11:57] hi ajmitch! [11:57] hi dholbach [11:57] :) [11:58] hey dholbach [11:58] woohoo! MOTU power! :-) === msturm [~msturm@t-20-214.athome.tue.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:58] I'm really close here. I switched to cdbs, and I can't seem to exclude the package's files from the -doc package. [11:59] ok.. [12:03] tritium: are the same files being installed into both packages? [12:05] ajmitch, yes, except for those I designated with DEB_INSTALL_DOCS_package-doc [12:05] those are only placed in the -doc package [12:05] right [12:06] take a look at dh_install manpage [12:06] ok [12:06] time for me to go & sleep, sorry :) [12:06] me too. It's 6 a.m. I need a little nap before I start my day. Thanks for your help :) [12:06] heh [12:06] night [12:07] night [12:11] sleep tight you two [12:11] tritium: you uploaded the last package? === [m0rph] [~morph@p213.54.142.98.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tritium [~tritium@12-202-90-180.client.insightBB.com] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] [12:24] can somebody confirm march 3rd as previewFreeze date, if i didnt get the schedule wrong? === enrico [~enrico@enrico.developer.debian] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:43] dholbach: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HoaryReleaseSchedule [12:44] ciao a tuti [12:44] enrico: xiao ming [12:45] could you please tell me if k3b will be removed from hoary? [12:47] T-None: how do you read it? [12:47] seems preview freeze is scheduled for feb 28 [12:47] ie next monday === dredg [~niall@xenomorph.frogstomp.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:47] T-None: actually all dates are due to wednesdays [12:47] hi dredg [12:48] lo dholbach [12:48] that would make sense then, I've been told PF is scheduled for march 2 [12:48] oh yes.. the 2nd [12:48] (kamion told me so) [12:48] thanks [12:48] np [12:48] need to set up MOTUTodo for it [12:54] jdub: ping [12:57] hi all [12:58] hi sivan [12:58] brb [01:01] just came to see what's news, be back later also [01:03] hi Kamion ... [01:03] anyway, hi guys. [01:04] I am asked by my management how support for hoary officially stands in ubuntu for the pegasos. [01:04] Regarding an announcement that we will be making on monday or something such for which i can't really give any detail. [01:05] Now, as far as my understanding goes, current ubuntu/hoary fully supports the pegasos provided i fix the OF implementation to work with yaboot. === HiddenWolf [~hidde@136.137.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:07] And then only two minor details need fixing : the marvell gigabit ethernet driver in the ubuntu kernel, and some X issue i mentioned DanielS. [01:07] So, i am wondering what the official ubuntu position is on this matter ? [01:07] (or who i could write about this). === ogra [~ogra@pD95F86ED.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:09] ogra: ciao === opi [~emil@217.153.156.1] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:10] oh well, will ask again later. [01:12] sivang: hey === dholbach [~daniel@td9091ca4.pool.terralink.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Goshawk [~Goshawk@host246-119.pool8251.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === rubenv [~lambda1@ctse7.ulb.ac.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === trukulo [~trukulo@176.red-62-57-69.user.auna.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:41] hi ppl [01:45] svenl: ping Kamion [01:46] svenl: alot of people are currently at FOSDEM so things maybe a little laggy [01:55] sladen: are you going there? [01:57] sladen: ah, ok. === elmo_ [~james@82.211.81.249] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:59] morning elmo_ === T-None is now known as T-Bone [02:00] who is in belgium right now? [02:02] T-Bone: hi [02:03] elmo_: i've posted some status update about ia64 on the m-l, feel free to comment it as you see fit. I have notably not said anything about the livecd, since i haven't tested it in a while... [02:07] T-Bone: ok [02:07] thx === marcin_ant [~marcin@www.e-dev.tele2.pl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Goshawk [~Goshawk@host246-119.pool8251.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === remi` [~remi@carnot-1-81-57-12-51.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === seb128 [~seb128@ANancy-151-1-2-170.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === doko_ [~doko___@dsl-084-059-000-007.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:40] *.ubuntu.com's going down for kernel upgrade, bb in a few minutes === eruin [~eruin@eruin.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel === elmo__ [~james@82.211.81.249] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:51] ogra: are you here? [02:52] ogra: problems with graveman for warty. === ironwolf [~ironwolf@c-24-6-169-124.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === neofeed [~moritz@pD957547A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:02] abelli, sorry, that package is very outdated, i will build a new one after preview release (before i'm very busy with hwdb) [03:02] ogra: no worries.. [03:02] ogra: we can do it for you.. [03:03] ogra: you will need just to check for it to work [03:03] btw how's hailie? [03:03] hal? [03:03] missing the last patch....(dmidecode/bios data) [03:04] will hopefully get included on monday [03:04] is there any documentation about it? [03:04] not yet [03:04] where did you study? [03:04] hal ? [03:04] i looked at the code and patches of other ppl [03:05] nice [03:05] ...wonderful [03:05] ...dont hate me for this.. [03:05] ? [03:05] what is hailie meant to do? [03:06] http://www.grawert.net/hwdb_schema.png [03:06] hooray [03:06] ogra: hm [03:06] ogra: thanks [03:07] it collects the hwdata on your system....asks some questions and submits the data online [03:07] ...oh, and performs sometests.... [03:08] ogra: what kind of tests? [03:08] the hoary variant will be rather trivial.....but the base for a much greater system in hoary+1 === Nafallo_ [~nafallo@h184n7c1o1027.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:09] something like: "do you hear this sound ?" (to test the sound hw).....or a ping to the first gateway to test the network config === jk [~jochem@jkossen.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === SuperLag [~aaron@SuperLag.developer.gentoo] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:18] ogra: i think #6934 is for you :) [03:20] zul: hey, thanks :) === Nafallo_ is now known as Nafallo === AndyFitz [~root@220-245-97-227-qld-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [03:43] abelli: when you finished graveman, i can review it too [03:44] abelli: hope you mean hoary :-) [03:45] elmo_: ping [03:46] dholbach: no ElephantHog [03:46] dholbach: hoary+5 [03:46] abelli: looking around, I think sladen, mjg59, Kinnison, daf, Treenaks, Riddell, Mithrandir are in Brussels. Along with about 10,000 Ubuntu CDs... [03:47] sladen: can you buy me a tshirt from the gnu project?: ) [03:48]