[02:29] <hsprang> is there anyone who can help with problems concernung the eiki?
[02:29] <hsprang> sorry, i meant wiki
[06:47] <froud> hsprang: you still thre
[10:32] <hsprang> froud: there again :)
[10:32] <froud> hsprang: you needed help
[10:32] <froud> what's the problem
[10:37] <hsprang> i am trying to write a howto in the ubuntu wiki
[10:37] <hsprang> but i am having troubles getting the page formatted
[10:37] <hsprang> i was expecting it to accept moin moin wiki syntax,which would be great, because i have the docs already in mediawiki, which is the same
[10:38] <hsprang> but it seems the doc pages are somehow special
[10:51] <froud> hsprang: the wiki should accept moin moin
[10:51] <froud> We have a number of documents already in moin moin
[10:52] <froud> can you give me the url of your document in wiki
[10:54] <hsprang> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/howto/helpcenterhowto.2005-02-28.6671204877/howto_view
[10:55] <hsprang> can you see it even if i didn't publish it?
[10:55] <hsprang> or do i have to submit it therefore?
[10:56] <froud> you need to submit it
[10:57] <hsprang> done
[10:57] <froud> send the view url
[10:59] <hsprang> is the above not working?
[10:59] <froud> no that one is for edit
[10:59] <froud> click the view tab
[11:00] <froud>  and copy the url
[11:00] <hsprang> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/howto/helpcenterhowto.2005-02-28.6671204877/howto_view
[11:00] <hsprang> this is exactly the same as above...
[11:00] <froud> I am getting "Fully Automatic Installation with FAI"
[11:00] <hsprang> both names are "view" at the end, too
[11:00] <hsprang> yes
[11:01] <froud> ok
[11:01] <hsprang> you're at the correct page
[11:01] <froud> ok, not much there
[11:01] <froud> let me find a page that you can ape the markup from
[11:02] <hsprang> yes, i had my full mediawiki page there, but it looked like crap and so i removed it
[11:02] <froud> oh dear
[11:02] <hsprang> if you like i cann add my fzll text i want to put in there, but as you might see, the header already doesn't work
[11:03] <froud> add your text
[11:03] <hsprang> minute...
[11:04] <hsprang> there...
[11:08] <froud> hsprang: strang it is not reacting to moin moin
[11:09] <hsprang> :) good feeling that you see it, too...
[11:10] <froud> ChrisH: ping
[11:10] <ChrisH> froud: pong...
[11:12] <froud> you got any idea why wiki is not recognizing moin moin
[11:14] <hsprang> in the "text format" selector there isn't even a way to select moin moin syntax, which is different from other wiki pages, as i saw
[11:15] <froud> I have now set it to structured and made changes take a look
[11:17] <froud> hsprang: will you be able to take it from there
[11:17] <ChrisH> Hmmm. not really.
[11:18] <froud> ChrisH: what not realy
[11:18] <ChrisH> I don't really have an idea. :)
[11:18] <ChrisH> Last time I changed a page it was in ReST.
[11:18] <froud> OK seems that this part of wiki does not hav esupport for moin
[11:19] <froud> hsprang: will you be able to do it in structured
[11:19] <hsprang> ok, this one looks pretty good...
[11:20] <hsprang> almost
[11:20] <froud> put uri in [] 
[11:20] <froud> ape the markup around you
[11:21] <froud> hope that helped :-)
[11:22] <froud> thanks ChrisH 
[11:22] <hsprang> it helped very very much! thank you :)
[11:24] <hsprang> is there a doc about the structured text markup?
[11:24] <froud> dunno of one
[11:24] <froud> I just ape what's around me open two tabs one with your doc and one for viewing other textsssss
[11:25] <froud> copy the markup in the existing samples
[11:25] <froud> a bit of a by the seat of the pants way of doing it, but it works :-)
[11:27] <hsprang> yes, and i am already miles further than last night :)
[11:28] <hsprang> who is administering the wiki, anyway?
[11:28] <froud> everyone ;-)
[11:28] <froud> I know enrico does loads of wiki stuff but he wont be here until toght
[11:28] <froud> tonight
[11:31] <hsprang> ok, i already wrote a mail to webmaster@ubuntu.org anyway about some other issues i have, when creating my MaintainerCandidates page like ogra told me at #ubuntu-motu, but that's not exactly ubuntu-doc ...
[11:36] <froud> hsprang: I don't know anything about that ... ChrisH do you
[11:39] <hsprang> plus the howto page has a nice bug which leads to data loss if one forgets to enter the page title - in that case, the body is completely lost in the following page that tells you you forgot the title
[11:40] <froud> hsprang: enrico is your man. He will come on later today
[11:40] <hsprang> but i am getting chatty... ok
[11:40] <froud> :-) ok
[11:41] <froud> I'm just busy trying to get the OMF/Scrollkeeper stuff fixed for release
[12:30] <hsprang> ... which i pretty well know nothing of :)
[12:31] <froud> neither did I until I  joined this project :-) OSS you gotta love it.
[12:32] <hsprang> besides that it seems to be some central? piece of the systems integrated docs...
[12:32] <froud> yes it is
[12:34] <hsprang> it's quite interesting, it's pretty important to provide help for people running the system quickly and adequately in al,ost anything that can go wrong
[12:35] <hsprang> which is not quite a task one gets done in an evening
[11:40] <ChrisH> Hm.... what was the trick to keep xsltproc from getting the DTDs from the oasis web site during every run?
[11:41] <sivang> hey ChrisH 
[11:41] <sivang> hey people
[11:41] <sivang> (others)
[11:41] <ChrisH> sivang: hey, bounty hunter :)
[11:41] <sivang> ChrisH: heheh
[11:41] <ChrisH> The compile is getting me mad... every time it's pulling in the oasis documents.