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StoffBox-Steveconsole > man apt-get blizah :D has many info of use12:00
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seb128usual: np12:00
neighborleei'm only getting 885mb showing out of my total 1GB of ram...how do I enable the rest ? ( please dont tell me I have to recompile kernel) ;-)))12:02
stazichhey do any of u guys know why i cannot log in to root? i had debian installed before ubuntu, and then i put warty on, and during install it did not even ask me for a root passwrd id like to use.. now when i try SU in term it asks me for pword , i try my old on debian, dont work... says sorry...12:03
goldfish_StoffBox-Steve: ubuntu has no root account12:03
goldfish_gah12:03
goldfish_tab12:03
virtualdheh12:03
neighborleestazich, this is how ubuntu works.12:03
goldfish_stazich: no root account on ubuntu12:03
virtualdit does12:03
queuetueneighborlee, What makes you think you're only getting  885?12:03
virtualdjust not activated12:03
virtualdie no password12:03
Deviant_anyone know how I can make my pointer larger?12:03
neighborleestazich, you just use your normal password via : sudo program12:03
neighborleeQuest-Master, according to gnome-monitor12:04
StoffBox-Steveubuntu dont need a root goldfish_ :D root PW is you PW ... and you can use sudo or gksudo12:04
acsDeviant_, make it point to something larger?12:04
Quest-Masterneighborlee: huh?12:04
goldfish_StoffBox-Steve: lol12:04
goldfish_yeah i know12:04
goldfish_mis-tab12:04
Deviant_acs , no make the pointer larger in general12:04
Deviant_its too small12:04
lokyou can also give a password to the root account with sudo passwd12:05
StoffBox-Steve :D i think you know it *GG :D12:05
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neighborleeQuest-Master, /sysinfo is actually where I noticed it first shrug12:05
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neighborleeQuest-Master, dont you know what gnome-monitor is ?12:05
Quest-MasterAbout the airport thing?12:06
queuetueneighborlee, Are you talking to me?12:06
neighborleequeuetue, to whomever wishes to assist12:06
stazichneighborlee: so man, i just type in sudo in prompt?12:06
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neighborleestazich, yes12:07
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LordCCan anyone help with my installation hell? ( http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=17950 )12:07
neighborleestazich, so dont like it but you get used to it....12:07
queuetueneighborlee, what does cat /proc/meminfo  |grep MemTotal say?12:07
neighborleestazich, so/some ..:(12:07
neighborleechecking12:07
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blizahim so new, how do i get to the console?12:08
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queuetueActually, grep MemTotal /proc/meminfo works - wasn't sure if it would...12:08
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goldfish_blizah: Apps > System tools > terminal12:08
queuetueblizah, an xterm, or a real console?12:08
drspincan I use the Hoary kernel on my Warty system?12:08
blizaherm which ever one is for apt-get12:08
neighborleequeuetue, 906736 ..so I guess /sysinfo was misleading or I read it wrong..( actually a friend pointed it out to me and I wasn't sure)12:08
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=== StoffBox-Steve AHH my big fat cat is in front of my monitor .... dont see anythink ...
vEnExhi, perhaps anyone could help me with this? I'm installing Ubuntu at the moment (warty version). When I have to choose a video adapter/driver to properly load the 'X system', I have no idea which driver to choose. I Have a 3D Prophet 4500 (Hercules). Is there like a 'standard' driver for every video card, cause I think mine is not in the list12:09
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ermoblizah, did you mean 'text-mode' console or just an X terminal? you can apt-get in both:)12:09
queuetueneighborlee, What is /sysinfo?12:09
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queuetueIs that some nautilus thing?12:09
blizahi guess either works then :D12:09
tizenanyone want to give me a link or a tip for burning from the livecd?12:09
neighborleequeuetue, a pyton script I think for showing system info12:09
neighborleeI Am Using  testing/unstable <=> Linux 2.6.8.1-5-386 - i686 <=> 2254.461 Mhz - Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.26GH <=> Uptime ( 1 day, 19:09 ) <=> Memory Information ( 885 Megs Of Ram, 320 Megs Used. 564 Megs Free ) <=> HD Info ( 79G HD, 59G Free ) <=> Monitor Resolution ( 1280x1024 ) <=> Internet Info ( Downloaded 531.86M, Uploaded 116.02M )12:09
neighborleequeuetue, it does that ^^^^^12:09
vEnExblizah > no, I tried 'ati' before, and the system couldn't start the X Server then :) had to reinstall12:09
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avdykhi12:10
StoffBox-Steveuse VESA for start vEnEx VESA work with 90% of all cards12:11
vEnExowkay, I'll give it a try. Thank you ^^12:11
avdykwhat do I need as apt/sources.list to install gdm?12:11
gillesthe french site of ubuntu is very nice, very clean12:11
avdykI follow http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/WartyUpgradeNotes but I can't install ubuntu-desktop12:11
ermoblizah, btw the words 'console' and 'terminal' are semantically interchangeable. There are historical differences in what they 'actually' mean, but for now, assume it means 'command-prompt'.12:11
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blizahhehe ok12:12
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iotc247Armaranth ya there?12:12
StoffBox-Stevehow you install ubuntu avdyk ? normaly gdm and ubuntu-desktop are default installations12:12
blizahis there a gui way to use aptget?12:12
iotc247yeah12:12
iotc247synaptic12:12
goldfish_blizah: synaptic12:12
colin_cool my name is in the topic12:12
ermoblizah, actually, I don't think anyone but programmers are supposed to _truly_ understand the difference ;)12:12
avdykStoffBox-Steve: chroot from debian12:12
ermoblizah, gnome?12:13
blizahyea im in ubuntu12:13
ermoduh of course gnome.12:13
blizahwhere is synaptic located?12:13
StoffBox-Stevetry > apt-install gnome avdyk12:13
ermoSystem->Administration-Synaptic12:13
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gilleswhat's the difference between "universe" and non universe ?12:13
ermo->Synaptic even12:13
StoffBox-Steveups avdyk mean > apt-get install gnome :D12:14
Erik_d12:14
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ermogilles, may I quote you on that (in a different context ;-^ )12:14
stazichneighborlee: so man i typed sudo, but it gave me like not enought parameters... how exactly should i use it?12:14
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neighborleequeuetue, so is 906736 right..if so where is the other 94k at...( I have 1 gig of ram )12:15
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avdykStoffBox-Steve: The following packages have unmet dependencies:12:15
avdyk  gnome: Depends: gnome-desktop-environment (= 55) but it is not going to be installed12:15
avdyk         Depends: gnome-office (= 55) but it is not going to be installed12:15
avdyk         Depends: bluefish but it is not going to be installed12:15
avdyk         Depends: evolution but it is not going to be installed or12:15
avdyk                  balsa but it is not going to be installed12:15
avdyk         Depends: gnome-cups-manager but it is not going to be installed12:15
Erik_can somebody help we with screenflicker in Gnome?12:15
neighborleestazich, sudo gedit : for example..12:15
avdyk         Depends: gnome-themes-extras but it is not going to be installed12:15
avdyk         Depends: rhythmbox but it is not going to be installed12:15
StoffBox-Stevetry apt-get install -f avdyk12:15
goldfish_ph dear12:15
avdyk         Depends: synaptic but it is not going to be installed or12:15
avdyk                  gnome-apt but it is not installable12:15
avdyk         Depends: xscreensaver but it is not going to be installed12:15
avdykermo: Broken packages12:15
neighborleewhew ;-)12:15
stazichoh, ok... i just use it as prefix to any command im trying to use which requires root?12:15
gillesDo you all think that Hoary will be ready for April ?12:16
ermohow did he manage to not get kicked?12:16
neighborleestazich, exactly12:16
goldfish_gilles: Apparantly it will.12:16
queuetueneighborlee, Roundoff between actual megs (1024 1024's) and ideal megabytes (1000 1000)'s?12:16
queuetueneighborlee, life's too short to chase 94k. :)12:17
stazichstrabgeky it did not ask me for password12:17
ermoqueuetue, ... but not if it's $s12:17
neighborleequeuetue, yeah i'm not worried...I guess /sysinfo doesn't quite 'get it right'12:17
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neighborleequeuetue, much more important things to worry about <G>12:17
kentavdyk, its a big "NO NO" to post large bits of text in a channel on irc. Either past it on internet or ask to past it privatly to another channel like #avdyk or something.12:18
queuetueermo, If I have a billion $$ (a gigbuck), then I wonuldnt chase $94k :)12:18
avdykkent: yep, sorry12:18
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ermoqueuetue, point taken :)12:18
jesuelkent: #flood12:18
stazichthe command is not working... im trying to build MPLAYER package, it says that my system does not satisfy dependencies...12:18
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avdykthanks for your help, switching to aptitude12:18
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kentjesuel, a personal #my_channel is better. That way you dont get the other flood that is in #flood :)12:18
queuetueAlso, if I had a billion $$ I would probably not be hanging out in here. :)12:18
jesuelkent: true :)12:19
queuetueIn fact, if I just had $94k... :)12:19
ermostazich, do you _have_ to compile yourself? Or are you already using the ubuntu-packaged source files?12:19
jesuelqueuetue: lol12:19
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stazichwell i am not sure... i was told by smeone earlier to download the source files off the website and then use this command : $ dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc12:20
bulio_III have a dsl ethernet modem12:20
ermoqueuetue, so ... a few random bits are missing each day at, say, 7 a.m?12:20
bulio_IIwill ubuntu live detect it at boot?12:20
Xappebulio_II, just boot and find out12:20
bulio_IIbut should it?12:20
queuetueermo, i think they leak out late at night.  I just discover them in th emorning ... wherever I happen to wake up.12:20
jesuelbulio_II: dsl ethernet modem, you should just plug it in and it will work sir12:21
bulio_IIok great12:21
jesuelbulio_II: its a external box right?12:21
jesuel...12:21
Xappeif it detects your ethernet card, then it should work12:21
ermoqueuetue, ... as in 'Sweetie, have you seen my <beep>? I refuse to sit down to <beep>'?12:21
ermoqueuetue, that would be a case of serious corruption, of course.12:22
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drspinwhat is the best way to share files between two computers that are far away?12:23
Xappeftp?12:23
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drspinhmm - I was thinking something closer to NFS or SMB -- but I'm not sure how it would be possible to make these work from 2 different networks12:24
queuetueHeh12:24
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ermodrspin, afaik, both NFS and SMB were developed to provide LAN services.12:25
ermodrspin, do you _have_ to share files real-time or do they just need to be 'synchronized'?12:26
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brosioanyone could give to me a repository of ubuntu64 ?12:26
drspinermo: right ;) well I want to store all my music and movies on my dual processor machine12:26
lokbrosio, archive.ubuntu.com12:27
drspinbut actually use them on my desktop12:27
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ermodrspin, what distance are we talking? meters? hops? parsecs?12:27
queuetueLinear libraries-of-congress?12:28
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pablo928Do I need an antivirus for Ubuntu?12:28
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ermoqueutue, stacked-pink-wellingtons even?12:28
drspinermo: LOL -- about 5 feet from me -- but I want my parents to be able to use it as well (900 miles)12:29
lokpablo928, do you catch frequently virus on unix-like ?12:29
ermoqueuetue stacked-pink-wellingtons even?12:29
queuetuepablo928, There are no real known linux viruses.  There is also no guarantee that there never will be, but the way linux works, it's ver hard to infect.12:29
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pablo928Thanks, I was just wonderingt.12:29
brosio deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary main restricted universe multiverse12:29
queuetuepablo928, doubly so with ubuntu, since you're enver supposed to run as root.  (although I do far too often.)12:30
ermodrspin, so, you have a LAN and two computers, of which one is a dual-proc server and the other is a workstation.12:30
brosiois correctly for a repository fot ubuntu64 ?12:30
queuetuepablo928, That said, there are antivurus tools for ubuntu - clamav beingone of them.12:30
lokbrosio, yes12:30
drspinermo -- sort of... but the computers each lease their own IP address from my ISP12:30
brosiook12:30
raphaHmm.12:31
brosioi don't known what hoary means12:31
brosioi need to install some package on a debian 6412:31
lokit's the release name of ubuntu12:31
raphaCould somebody just give me a quick hand and tell what he is getting at http://84.160.157.179/herrenberger-buehne ?12:31
brosiook thx12:31
ermodrspin, but why don't you connect them via 2 seperate NICs? and either a switch or a x-over cable?12:31
queuetuebrosio, Rough and Tough.  And current.12:31
lokyou can use hoary or warty12:31
lokwrty=stable12:32
ermodrspin, doesn't _have_ to cost you a fortune, you know.12:32
brosiohoary=unstable ?12:32
brosiook thx12:32
drspinermo: I plan to play with VPN here soon - which is why it's setup this way -- but for now...12:32
stazichhey, what can happen if i do not satisfy 1 out of the 5 dependencies i am missing to install a package???12:32
blizahso when i hit reload in synaptic it checks for newer versions of the packages?12:33
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ermodrspin, but you'd get a rather large latency. And you'd be limited to <= <min isp bandwidth>/212:33
lokstazich, the package or some functionnality of your package doesn't work12:34
ermoDr_Acemaster, or, ... eh ... without the /212:34
ermodrspin, or, ... eh ... without the /212:34
drspinermo: bandwidth is not a problem... the latency will be annoying but I will deal with it -- it'll help motivate me to learn vpn12:34
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agueybanai need some help with an installation12:35
ermodrspin, well, if you *want* to use vpn, you'll create a share medium (logically) anyway, at which point smb or nfs *should* work anyway.12:35
shockwoohooo.... got the whole zope+plone thingy up and running now :D12:36
blizahcan ubuntu not run the latest version of gaim?12:36
shockthat was quite a fight12:36
agueybanahow can one delete a previous bootloader?  I removed all partitions from my second harddrive...but when I try to boot from it, it still has an outdated (but now non-fuctioning) bootloader on it12:36
drspinso lemme restate my question - can I share files in real time with another computer on a different network?12:36
stazichhaveing built the package, what do i do later with it? it is MPLAYER... i am building it in MPLAYER folder on my desktop... what r tipe for tieing it to the ubuntu pull down manu of programs afterwards??? can anyone help please? and by the way is just building it enough? doi i have to place it anywhere like "program files" for linux? sorry for these nube questions guys... forums dont really guide me through this, they too co12:36
stazichmplicated...12:36
lokblizah, use apt-get install gaim=versionnumber12:36
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bulio_IIwell12:36
bulio_IIbooted up ubuntu live12:36
bulio_IImodem didn't respond12:37
shockstazich - why dont u just install mplayer from marillat?12:37
lokstazich, you want to compile mplayer ?12:37
shockO_o12:37
bulio_IIcouldn't get on net12:37
blizahlok is that possible from synatic?12:37
Loevborgshock, it crashes.12:37
shockoh12:37
shockhm12:37
blizahsynaptic12:37
bulio_IIanyone able to help?12:37
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shockcrashes with what error?12:37
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ermodrspin, ... without using vpn (or some other form of) tunneling?12:37
shocknot a modem person, myself :/12:37
lokblizah, I don't konw12:37
bulio_II:/12:38
bulio_IIIt's dsl modem with ethernet connection12:38
Loevborgstazich, if you built a proper mplayer .deb, it should show up in your menu - at least mine does.12:38
agueybanahow can one delete a previous bootloader?  I removed all partitions from my second harddrive...but when I try to boot from it, it still has an outdated (but now non-fuctioning) bootloader on it12:38
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lokblizah, yeah12:38
lokright click on the package12:38
stazichi think it is compiling now... i ran a dpkg filename ... and arguments command.. it gave me lots of writing in term and is still doing something although writing now if comes isnt senseable... like its thinking heavily... supopose it is the compile process12:39
drspinwhat is my webmin login?12:39
lokand use "mark recommended for installation" and choice your version12:39
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bulio_IIhmm12:39
blizahlok in synaptic i see gaim but it says installed version 1.0.0, latest version 1.0.0  (thats after a reload)  but gaims latest version is 1.1.412:39
ermodrspin, root:<foobar> I'd think12:39
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stazichdamn it... so does ubuntu not allow me to exit XWINDOWS?? i tried pressing CTRL ALT BACKSPACE, nthng...12:41
agueybanahow can one delete a previous bootloader?  I removed all partitions from my second harddrive...but when I try to boot from it, it still has an outdated (but now non-fuctioning) bootloader on it12:41
ermostazich, easy man. try ctrl+alt+f112:41
lokblizah, in this case this is your apt source which don't have the latest version12:41
bob2agueybana: you don't delete12:41
lokyou have a ubuntu warty ?12:41
bob2agueybana: you install another one over it12:41
agueybanai don't delete?12:41
agueybanawell12:42
agueybanathat's the problem12:42
agueybanai can't seem to install ubuntu GRUB on my second harddrive12:42
ermoagueybana, you need to zero out the first 448 bytes of your /dev/hda (if you zero out the whole 512 bytes in the mbr, you ruin your partition table as sell)12:42
ermoagueybana, as well, even.12:42
agueybanai don't want to touch /dev/hda12:42
gurranwho do i start the tightvncserver ? =S12:42
agueybanai want to deal with /dev/hdb12:42
ermoagueybana, i'd advise you read double-check  the numbers, though.12:42
agueybanai want to leave /dev/hda purely for windows partitions12:42
|QuaD|_where can i find linux-headers-2.6.10-2 headers?12:42
ermoagueybana, then /dev/hdb then12:42
agueybanai did that12:43
agueybanaUbuntu wouldn't load12:43
agueybanait would give me error12:43
agueybanatried /dev/hdb112:43
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agueybanaalso gave no success12:43
agueybanaso i'm trying to install ubuntu on /dev/hdb and install NO bootloader.12:43
agueybanathat way, just Linux boots...i'd rather use bios to switch between OS12:43
ermoagueybana, suppososing that your bios is set to boot from the correct harddrive, it should be doable12:43
agueybanait is12:44
agueybanai have it set to booting from HDD 112:44
agueybanainstead of HHD012:44
ermoagueybana, ... and grub won't load?12:44
agueybanawell, grub would load12:44
agueybanathe menu would shhow12:44
stazichok, is there an easy way to eject a cd? i currently do it through starting cd player and pressing eject12:44
stazich;-)12:44
agueybanabut then it would say "file not found" when I pressed enter on Ubuntu12:44
lokstazich, use the command eject12:44
agueybanathis has happened 3 times with different Linux distros12:44
gurranwho do i start the tightvncserver ? =S12:44
agueybanai frankly distrust the bootloaders12:44
agueybanasometimes they work12:44
agueybanasometimes they fuck up stuff12:45
blizahlok mind i asking you how i have my apt source have the latest version?12:45
lokor eject -t to insert  ... I love this command :)12:45
ermoagueybana, is your grub configured to use (hd1,0)?12:45
bulio_IIanyone able to help with my internet problem?12:45
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agueybanai'm not sure12:45
lokblizah, you have the latest stable realse12:45
agueybanai just put /dev/hdb on the prompt12:45
lokrealese12:45
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ermoagueybana, ok.12:45
agueybanainstead of booting it to the MBR of the HDA12:45
blizahyea of ubuntu12:45
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stazich;-) thx loc12:45
lokif you want the 1.1.4 you must pass to unstable12:45
blizahah12:46
bulio_IIbooted up ubuntu live12:46
bulio_IImodem didn't respond12:46
bulio_IIcouldn't get on net12:46
bulio_IIIt's dsl modem with ethernet connection12:46
ermoagueybana, how about making an entry in your boot.ini file on your windows nt (derived) partition?12:46
lokyou just have to replace warty in your source.list by hoary12:46
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agueybanahmmmm12:46
agueybanaGOOD IDEA!12:46
blizahor wait for stable hoary12:46
agueybanathat would preclude the need for Linux based bootloaders12:46
blizahwell since im new to linux ill stay with the stable for now12:46
stazichhow long does it take to compile an app? its been on for about 5-10 min already for this mplayer imtrying to build...12:47
agueybanabut...even for that, I need to learn how to "flush out" all data from HDB, because right now, there is an old, broken bootloader on it12:47
blizahso ubuntu users have to wait every 6 months to use the new version of things?12:47
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lokstazich, mplayer is a huge apps12:47
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Weemshow do i restore the mbr?12:47
HrdwrBoBblizah: no, they have to wait 6 months to use a stable release of new things12:47
Xenguyblizah: 6 months is nothing12:47
agueybanai removed all partitions from HDB12:47
hawke_Weems: in windows, fdisk /mbr12:47
stazichhehe, and i am running an old 333imac ;-))12:47
agueybanabut there still seems to be some "boot" data on it12:47
ermoagueybana, like I said, zero out the drive. like so "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hdx size=448 count=1"12:48
blizahah k12:48
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Xenguyblizah: the obsession with always running the latest stuff is crazy IMO12:48
Weemshawke_, I cant get in to windows12:48
hawke_Weems: in Ubuntu, install-mbr /dev/hdn12:48
lokyeah this too12:48
agueybanaermo, how do I do that?12:48
blizahwell what about security fixes...12:48
agueybanais there an easier way?  An ISO image utility that I can burn onto a CD to do it for me?12:48
Xenguyblizah: different issue12:48
Weemshawke_, install-mbr command not found12:48
stazichhaveing built the package, what do i do later with it? it is MPLAYER... i am building it in MPLAYER folder on my desktop... what r tipe for tieing it to the ubuntu pull down manu of programs afterwards??? can anyone help please? and by the way is just building it enough? doi i have to place it anywhere like "program files" for linux? sorry for these nube questions guys... forums dont really guide me through this, they too co12:48
stazichmplicated...12:48
drspinHeh - had to enable my root password -- BOO!!  regardless... I keep getting access denied for 127.0.0.1 -->12:49
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hawke_Weems: It's in the package mbr12:49
drspinbecause I used the wrong login too many times...12:49
ermoagueybana, but you still need to install a bootloader on /dev/hdb -> if you don't, the nt bootloader will just dump you n bytes into the mbr on /dev/hdb where the bootloader is supposed to be. But you just wrote zeroes there.12:49
lokstazich, a compilation it's ./configure && make && make install   most the time12:49
lokbut it's also error msgs ;)12:49
bob2drspin: you don't need to enable it12:49
agueybanaMy goal from now on is to keep all HDA partitions to be Windows, with Windows booting solely on it (if Bios is set to it FIRST).  Then, put Linux on HDB completely, and make it the sole OS there.  That way, the bootloaders don't corrupt the other OS's boot procedure12:49
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ermoagueybana, but really, if you haven't already, go to http://tldp.org/ and look at the boot howtos12:50
agueybanaah12:50
agueybanaok12:50
Weemshawke_, im running the livecd12:50
agueybanaok12:50
drspinbob2: I just found something that allows me to set up a user specific for webmin which I will do... how can I get rid of the block for 127.0.0.1?12:50
agueybanahere's my status12:50
agueybanamy HDB is completely empty12:50
bob2drspin: no idea, I don't use webmin12:50
ermoagueybana, I'm pretty sure you'll find what you're looking for there, along with nice and proper examples on how people made it work.12:50
agueybanai can run Ubuntu, and isntall on it12:50
agueybanaah12:50
agueybanaok12:50
agueybanai will check then12:50
agueybanathank you12:50
drspinbob2: I never have either...12:51
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ermoAgrajag, you are most welcome :)12:51
bulio_IIif you can help me with my modem, please query me12:51
ermoagueybana, you are most welcome :)12:51
gurrandoes anyone know how  i start the tightvncserver ?12:52
blizahso do i have to go to unstable ver. of ubuntu to use the latest firefox?\12:52
lokblizah, your firefox is patched12:53
ermoblizah, per definition, I'm afraid the answer is yes.12:53
lokbut if you want the latest yes you must use unstable version12:53
ermoblizah, but as lok points out, do you really *need* to?12:53
blizahso i might not be using the latest ver of firefox but all the security bugs they have found lately have been patched?12:54
lokin other hand I use unstable ver. and I don't have any probleme12:54
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ermogurran, on tightvncserver, umm, no - but I didn't read the README either ;)12:54
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blizahhave been patched on my firefox...12:54
bob2blizah: yes12:54
lokthe word unstable doesn't match realy the package12:54
TannenbaumHi..12:54
ermogurran, (j/k - that answer was not nice)12:54
Tannenbaumcould someone please lend me a hand?12:54
gurranermo i cant find the blody readme12:54
blizahah ok (im starting to understand)...sorry it took so long12:55
Tannenbaumwith an install problem...12:55
Tannenbaumextrange one...12:55
ermogurran, ok. let's get you on the road then, shall we?12:55
gurranok12:55
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lokTannenbaum << with a nick like this you must want to launch a troll ^^12:56
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pablo928What's the unstable part of Hoary? I loaded it and see  no problems.12:56
bob2or is just a confused fan(boy|girl)12:56
lokbut anyhow what's your probleme12:56
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bob2pablo928: unstable as in it changes12:56
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bulio_IIshould an ethernet modem with ppoe authentication (dsl internet) work with ubuntu live?12:56
mpqwould 20GB be enough for an ubuntu partition?12:56
fr500more than12:56
fr500mpq, i have 5gb12:57
fr500with all the sw i need12:57
mpqok12:57
Tannenbaumthe thing is that when it gets to partitioning the  disk..12:57
pablo928bob2: I do notice a lot of updates/upgrades daily.12:57
mpqcan I safely resize the partition?12:57
Tannenbaumthe install process can mount the partitioned space..12:57
lokpablo928, same for me but it's just that the dev team doesn't say that we can't have a probleme with instead of warty12:57
ermogurran, I'm reading through http://www.tightvnc.com/doc/unix/README.txt12:57
Tannenbaumno matter what kind of file system it is..12:57
bob2mpq: depends what filesystem it is12:57
mpqI have both hoary and xp on my computer12:57
gurranthx12:57
bulio_IIhow do I setup pppoe internet in ubuntu?12:57
mpqand I want to have a partition that I can use to transfer files between the two OS12:58
TannenbaumI've tryed to partition the disk outside the install process..12:58
ermogurran, but it doesn't apply, unfortunately. Proceeding to the other available docs12:58
Tannenbaumusing Knoppix and fdsik..12:58
bob2bulio_II: sudo pppoeconf12:58
mpqubuntu uses ext3 right?12:58
bulio_IIit'll work then?12:58
fr500i have this in crontab:  00 18 * * *      /bin/sh /etc/backup.sh12:58
Tannenbaumand install can?t mount either...12:58
fr500but the script doesnt work12:58
fr500any help?12:58
pablo928So if I have a major problem with Hoary I'll try a teinstall.12:58
bob2mpq: that is the default, indeed12:58
pablo928reinstall12:58
bob2fr500: have you read "man crontab"?12:58
mpqcan ext3 be safely resized?12:58
fr500yes12:58
ermogurran, I'd think http://www.tightvnc.com/vncserver.1.html is what you need12:58
fr500maybe i missed something12:59
Tannenbaumlok any clue?12:59
ermogurran, ... but doesn't vino work for you?12:59
lokTannenbaum, you can't mount the partition that's it12:59
bulio_IIwhat will I need to know about my internet when I sudo pppoeconf?12:59
bob2mpq: yes12:59
lokmmh12:59
Tannenbaumlok that it seems12:59
bob2fr500: and the script runs fine from the command line?12:59
bob2bulio_II: your username and password12:59
mpqI want to have a partition that I can use to transfer files between xp and linux12:59
fr500yes12:59
mpqis that possible?01:00
Tannenbaumno matter the way i partition the disk01:00
ermogurran, ok so far?01:00
fr500not even /bin/sh needed01:00
bulio_IIbob2: and this should make the internet work in ubuntu live?01:00
mpqbasically a partition I can write to in either OS01:00
gurranyes think i got what i need thank you01:00
lokTannenbaum, do you have specified during the ubuntu installation the futur mount point of the partition?01:00
ermogurran, ok01:00
mpqhow would I do that, and what filesystem would I need to use?01:00
bob2bulio_II: no idea01:00
Tannenbaumyes..01:00
TannenbaumI use a swap..01:00
bob2I've never bothered with the live cd01:00
Tannenbauma boot ..01:00
bulio_IIand how will I connect after this?01:00
Tannenbaumand a /01:00
fr500bob2, do i need a blank line at the end?01:01
ermompq, use ext2 and install the nt ext2 vfs layer?01:01
mpqhuh?01:01
ermompq, ok :) let's try it again, slower this time.01:01
Tannenbaumlok and they are all specified..01:01
mpqcan xp read/write to ext2?01:01
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javioloim trying to install a theme, but it says that i dont have gtk2.001:01
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javioloand its installed01:01
ermompq, by default no, but with a vfs (Virtual File System) module, yes.01:01
bulio_IIafter I setup pppoeconf, will it automatically connect to the net?01:01
bob2bulio_II: sudo pon01:02
mpqwhat about fat32?01:02
lokTannenbaum, you don't have any error message when you parted the hd ?01:02
LordCok, thats like my 5th attempt, i cannot get ubuntu installed :/01:02
mpqis that any good?01:02
bob2mpq: no01:02
Tannenbaumlok no01:02
mpqwhat's wrong with it?01:02
bob2mpq: it's only useful as something both windows and linux can write to01:02
bulio_IIand sudo pon will make me connect?01:02
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ermompq, well, if you're not afraid of losing your date, then yes.01:02
loklol ermo01:02
bob2mpq: no permissions, case insensitive, file size limits, file name limits etc01:02
fr500bob2 is there any way to see if the scrip even attempted to run?01:02
ermompq, in short: It's a sucky hack.01:03
Tannenbaumlok I even checked partitions for physical errors01:03
bob2fr500: read your logs01:03
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lokbob2, no fat32 can't handle file > than 4GB01:03
bulio_IIand sudo pon will make me connect?01:03
bob2fr500: /var/local/syslog01:03
ermompq, it's not what most people would consider a real filesystem.01:03
bob2lok: that's what I said01:03
bob2bulio_II: yes01:03
Tannenbaumlok the error comes after ubuntu install formats the partitions..01:03
bob2mpq: also, it's slow and inefficient01:03
mpqdidn't know that01:03
Tannenbaumlok or tryes to mount them01:03
bulio_IIok01:03
lokbob2, sorry I misunderstood01:03
bob2FAT is like "My First File System"01:03
bulio_IIso this should work?01:03
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lokTannenbaum, with konoppix you can mount them01:04
mpqI didn't know fat was so bad01:04
LordCDoes the regular install kernel accept scsi hdds, or do i need to use a special kernel?01:04
mdzhttp://people.ubuntu.com/~mdz/kubuntu/kubuntu.png01:04
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ermompg, fat32 derived from fat16, which is derived from fat12 which was a bad idea to begin with. And so was the i8088. But let's not go there.01:04
fr500bob2, fnf01:04
lokmpq, the only advanteges is realy the write support by both linux and windows01:04
Tannenbaumlok yes, and with a Gentoo LiveCD too...01:05
fr500file not found01:05
mpqwhich is really the only thing I need it for01:05
hawke_lok: And it's fast because it's so simple01:05
lokTannenbaum, your ubuntu cd it's a warty or a hoary ?01:05
bob2fr500: ?01:05
ermompq, lemme throw you a link01:05
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Tannenbaumlok I've parted the disk using  fdisk and mk2fs -j01:05
mpqright now the only way I can transfer files between windows and linux is a 256MB flash drive01:05
Tannenbaumlok warty01:05
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fr500bob2, file not found01:06
fr500i swera01:06
fr500swear01:06
lokwow it's very weird01:06
lokit is a sata hd ?01:06
bob2fr500: that's pretty amazing01:06
Tannenbaumlok yap...01:06
bob2fr500: er, /var/log/syslog01:06
Tannenbaumlok yes, sata01:06
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lokTannenbaum, the probleme can maybe be it01:07
Tannenbaumlok it's giving me a lot of problems01:07
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Tannenbaumlok so I guesseed too..01:07
ermompq, http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Filesystems-HOWTO.html#toc601:07
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loktry to install hoary instead of warty01:07
spudseHi, i've got a 1,5 gb harddisk and i was wondering if i could install ubuntu on it01:07
spudsecouldnt find it in the forums01:07
bob2spudse: the default install won't fit01:07
Tannenbaummmm...01:07
bob2I wouldn't bother with the forums01:08
lokmaybe the install kernel can handle it but it's strange that you can partition it but can't mount01:08
mpqermo, it's not working01:08
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spudsehow do i do custom install ? because last time i installed it (on larger hd) it didnt ask for custom01:08
ermompq, really?01:08
Tannenbaumlok I don't now, but I'm going mad...01:08
mpqI think it's on my end01:08
Tannenbaumlok SATA is a hell of a pain..01:09
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mpqI can't access any websites at all for some reason01:09
mpqyet IRC works fine01:09
ermompq, try navigating to tldp.org and find the filesystem howto01:09
ermompq, ... oh01:09
lokyeah I've a friend who have a sata ... and lots of probleme01:09
Tannenbaumlok gives you a lot of problems qwhen you recompile your own kernel...01:10
ermompq, can you 'traceroute'?01:10
mpqI don't know what that is01:10
ermompq, can you 'nslookup'?01:10
ermompq, running ubuntu?01:10
Tannenbaumlok where can I download hoary01:10
Tannenbaum?01:10
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mpqermo: yeah01:10
Tannenbaummm..01:11
bob2spudse: archive_copier/copy=false01:11
Tannenbaumlok do you think I could try using a LiveCD?01:11
mpqI got "connection timed out"01:11
Tannenbaumlok partitioning with knoppix..01:11
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lokhttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/hoary/array-6/01:12
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ermompq, do you have 'Applications->System tools->Network tools' ?01:12
lokif you have a rw then I think use it .....01:12
fr500does cron requiere computer running 24/7? or something01:12
mpqermo: yeah01:12
fr500doesnt seem to work01:12
ermofr500, actually, yes (in a sense)01:12
loktry the install normal01:13
mpqit was working fine until I opened xchat01:13
fr500well it's mostly up since it's my main router01:13
fr500i work in an isp01:13
mpqnow websites aren't loading01:13
lokor with a livecd you can always use a dbootstrap01:13
fr500it's a simple script to upload my current routing table to an ftp01:13
LordCIm seriously low on ideas here, can someone help me getting Ubuntu installed please.01:13
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LordCIm using a SCSI system, if that matters - during install i get told setup is  to load some modules: amd76xrom ide-mod ide-probe-mod ide-detect ide-floppy01:13
ermofr500, there is a 'work-alike' replacement called 'anacron'01:14
bob2fr500: it requires the system to be running when the job is scheduled01:14
lokbut it's harder to use than a good install01:14
fr500of course01:14
bob2LordC: ask on the mailing listr01:14
fr500it's running01:14
ermofr500, which is geared towards workstations more than servers.01:14
Tannenbaumlok I've tryed normal install and it gives me problems too..01:14
bob2fr500: and the script works fine when run manually?01:14
fr500ermo, it's a server01:14
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fr500bob2, yes of course01:14
lokyes ...01:14
mpqI blame my router01:15
mpqit's easy to blame my router01:15
bob2fr500: you know the difference between root and user crontabs, right?01:15
lokthen try grumpy with 100 candle and status of most old divinity a night of full moon ;)01:15
fr500well it's supposed to be run as root01:15
loks/grumpy/hoary01:15
fr500or superuser01:15
ermompq, well, you need to check that your resolver is working (software that translates names like tldp.org to ip-adresses)01:15
bob2fr500: yes, but you know the difference in format, right?01:16
Tannenbaum:)01:16
fr500not really, nothing in man01:16
mpqhow do I check that?01:16
fr500or yes01:16
bob2fr500: there is01:16
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fr500in man?01:16
bob2fr500: if it's the system crontab, you need to specify the user to run as01:17
fr500oh01:17
ermompq, with the network tools. "Fire it up" as the Starcraft flamethrower units so succintly put it.01:17
spudseHello, how do i custom install ubuntu ? (im using 1,5 gb harddisk)01:17
mpqit's open, but what am I looking for?01:17
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fr500bob2, that in man?01:17
bob2fr500: yes01:17
ermompq, lookup01:18
bob2spudse: I answered you already01:18
Tannenbaumok..01:18
Tannenbaumthanks for your help..01:18
TannenbaumI?ll keep looking...01:18
Tannenbaumor build it from scratch..01:18
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spudsebob2 i was offline01:18
spudsei guess, system freeze01:18
Tannenbaumor shoot myself01:18
loklol01:18
fr500wow, guess im blind01:18
Tannenbaumeither one :)01:18
bob210:11:25           bob2 | spudse: archive_copier/copy=false01:19
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TannenbaumI?ll try the candle stuff..01:19
thanatosyshello everyone01:19
CarlK2just plugged in a HP dj 3320 usb printer to this warty box - "Add a printer" says "no printers detected" - is this normal?01:19
Tannenbaumseems very promising ;)01:19
spudsebob2: where do i type that, and what exacly does it do ?01:19
thanatosysI would like to share a valuable linux tip01:19
lokTannenbaum, place it on a pentacle01:19
thanatosysdont remove the log files01:19
thanatosysi did and i have spend all afternoon reloading all of my installed stuff01:19
ermothanatosys, you tell that to J Random Hacker01:19
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thanatosys?01:19
Tannenbaumok, so long and thanks for all the fish01:19
bob2spudse: at the boot prompt01:20
rattboiwhere do you post ubuntu bug reporst?01:20
rattboiI've never done one01:20
bob2spudse: it stops the installer copying 600MB of .debs to the hard disk01:20
bob2rattboi: bugzilla.ubuntu.com01:20
thanatosysis there a way to speed up the process of ripping cd's01:20
bob2thanatosys: get a better drive01:20
thanatosystakes forever lol01:20
thanatosysits a 24x heh01:20
ermothanatosys, it was a pun. J Random Hacker is the 'John Doe' of hackers. Removing your tracks usually is a good idea for an intruder (=erasing/altering log files)01:20
lokhttps://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/01:20
thanatosysahh i get it01:20
thanatosyswell i always heard to delete or edit log files01:21
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bob2thanatosys: 24x is a lie for audio cds01:21
thanatosysso i just deleted the one that the log viewer pointed to01:21
rattboiI really like the new ubuntu update manager, but there's a bug with the interface01:21
spudsebob2: but ubuntu wont come with any programs installed then ?01:21
thanatosysbad bad idea01:21
CarlK2thanatosys, 24x doesn't apply to audio ripping - thats a different (slower) spec that is burried somewhere01:21
thanatosysyea 24x is the speed of the drive01:21
thanatosysim ripping at 2.2-2.4x01:21
bob2spudse: it will be fine01:21
spudseokay cool :)01:21
bob2spudse: it just might take longer to install01:21
spudsei type it at the boot ?01:21
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bulio_IIInternet still working01:22
bulio_II*not01:22
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jupiterstegood evening01:22
thanatosystop of the evening to ya01:22
jupiterstei just installed ubuntu for the first time and have setup users, but am wondering how to prevent them from shutting down01:23
jupiterstei see the Logout panel that a normal user can shutdown01:23
bob2if they have physical access, that seems a bit pointless01:23
fr500well doesnt work01:23
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ermobob2, good point01:23
fr500i used crontab -u root -e01:24
bob2fr500: dude01:24
bob2fr500: did you read the crontab man page or not?01:24
bob2fr500: you need to check the "example system cron file" section01:24
fr500yes, but i dont see formating01:24
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bob2       # m h dom mon dow user    command01:24
bob2you don't have a user column01:25
spudsebob2: where do i type --> archive_copier/copy=false01:25
CarlK2lsusb isn't returnning anything, or returning to the prompt01:25
jupiterstebob2: they could shut down if they are in through XDMCP, which I don't want01:25
bob2spudse: at the boot prompt01:25
bob2jupiterste: ok01:25
bulio_IIinternet doesn't work01:25
bulio_IItried the pppoeconf01:25
spudseokay thanks01:25
fr500bob2, well i cant find that section, all i did is man crontab01:25
spudseim trying it out01:25
bob2fr500: man 5 crontab01:25
fr500wow01:26
fr500thx a lot01:26
edlangMy dear Ubuntu // thanks for today's big upgrade // my bandwidth is raped01:26
ermojupiterste, try System->Administration->Login Screen Setup01:26
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ermojupiterste, In the Security tab, there's an option disallowing that says 'Secure Actions menu'01:27
ermojupiterste, boy, that was bad english01:28
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jupitersteemro you could say it anyway you want :) i can't complain about free help01:28
ermojupiterste,  In the Security tab, there's an option that says 'Secure Actions menu' <- is what I wanted to say01:29
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thanatosysbesides gimp what is the best photo editor in linux01:29
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jupitersteermo, i'm going to give it a shot, brb01:29
Quaruptanyone bult a working copy of gaim-vv yet?01:30
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ermofr500, in case you were wondering 'man 5 crontab' means that you want the crontab manual that deals with the format of the configuration file (yes, it's top secret, but true nonetheless. man man for more info)01:32
ermo(pun intended)01:33
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nix000if anoyone who uses whereami can show how /etc/interfaces look like i'll apreciate01:33
ermonix000, why not just use gnome-terminal and write 'man 5 interfaces'?01:33
fr500bob2, is this requiered?  /etc/backup.sh --report /etc/cron.daily01:34
fr500the --report thing01:34
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nix000ermo: i already wasted hours on this .. i guess i could resort to loosing the same amount now that i feel i am close :-)01:35
ermonix000, at the bottom of the man file, it says to take a look at /usr/share/doc/ifupdaown/examples/network-interfaces01:36
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jupitersteermo, no go01:36
blizahhow do i "just uncomment the main lines in the sources.list first"01:36
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blizahwhats uncomment mean?01:36
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jupiterstetake the #s out01:36
blizahah ok01:36
nix000ermo: having a laptop i am trying to switch between multiple wifi networks between home and work. thats is what wheami is supposed to make easier !01:37
ermonix000, sorry. I guess I completely missed that part. My bad.01:37
jupitersteermo, it just works as if the option wasn't selected, but isn't it true that ubuntu doesn't have a root password?01:37
gurrancan somebody send me a URL to a HowTo i need to change a directory from Owner Root so i can read it..01:38
ermojupiterste, did you use the 'standard greeter'? or the graphical one?01:38
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jupiterstegraphical01:38
ermojupiterste, try the standard one.01:38
nix000qurran google for chmod root group user01:39
gurrandidnt think chmod +rw would work but it did thank god01:40
ermogurran, that would be 'thank GNU'01:40
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gurranhehe srry thank gnu01:40
Quaruptwe need a fact bot in here01:40
ermoQuarupt, no, we just happen to have an01:41
ermoQuarupt, 'not-so-unixy-userbase'01:41
ermoQuarupt, 'a' user...01:41
nix000gurran: thanks linux not gnu !01:41
gurranyeah yeah what ever01:42
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jupitersteermo, sorry it did actually make it ask for a password on the "Action" menu01:43
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ermogurran, did you get the vnc thingy work?01:43
ermogurran, *to work, even01:43
jupitersteermo, but i'm trying to prevent it when in a session under Computer - Logout01:43
gurranwell no but somebody got my password to the Webmin and changed everything including the password so i need to set everything back to normal before i procced with the vnc problem01:45
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tub-where r all the ladies01:48
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|QuaD-hey, is there a package for the 2.6.11 restricted modules yet?01:52
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ammadIs there something up with the archive?01:54
mseneywhy would synaptic say i have Linux ubuntu 2.6.10-5 when uname -rsa says I have "Linux ubuntu 2.6.10-4-686"?01:55
tckdamn array-6 came out today, didnt even know :P01:55
mseneyi didn't either01:55
mseneyhow do you upgrade to that ? $sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ?01:57
|QuaD-any developers know how to get the linux-restricted package compiled?01:57
jesuelmseney: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade01:57
mseneyjesuel, oh i usually do that daily01:58
mseneyjesuel, your saying if i have array-5 that it will bring me current w/ 6?01:58
jesuelI *believe* so, though i could be wrong :)01:58
mseneyk01:59
mseneybrb01:59
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jesuelbrb myself02:00
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ElsidoxKubuntu rules02:01
Elsidox=)02:01
trans_errElsidox: kubuntu?02:01
Elsidoxtrans_err, the kde version of ubuntu02:01
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delltonyi don't know how to ask this so i will give it a shot is it normal to see like a drag effect when maximizing and minimizing your windows? what i mean is you see the border of the dialogbox board trace itself down to the panel tray and then if you maximize you see the boards get bigger and bigger till the application appears02:02
trans_errElsidox: heh- i use it and never knew it was called that02:02
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Elsidoxtrans_err, lol. join #kubuntu. Its were all use cool kde peps hang out. =)02:03
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fr500ahahaha doesnt work02:03
Elsidoxus cool*02:03
fr500-_-02:03
trans_errElsidox: its not any different from installing kde in ubuntu?02:03
trans_errrightr?02:03
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Riddelltrans_err: we have an ISO now02:04
Elsidoxtrans_err, sure it is.02:04
EricNeonmorning all~02:04
trans_errElsidox: can I migrate from an existing KDE install?02:04
trans_errerr ubuntu install02:04
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Riddelltrans_err: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop02:04
CarlKI have a 1 week old hoary server - what do I need to add to it to host an HPdj 3320 usb printer?  (other box is a full warty install)02:04
MindZEyeHow is it different?  I'm currently running KDE from a Ubuntu install.02:04
Elsidoxtrans_err, ask Riddell. Hes a dev. An awesome one.02:05
trans_errRiddell: <302:05
Elsidoxtrans_err, and join #Kubuntu =P02:05
Elsidoxlol02:05
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RiddellMindZEye: it's not different, just kubuntu-devel is our pick of the packages (and still needs refining) and we have an ISO that Elsidox is about to test02:05
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ElsidoxRiddell, the isos done burning so ill see you when its done installing. =)02:06
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ElsidoxRiddell, thx again. (for kubuntu) =)02:06
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delltonyafter doing the kubuntu-desktop do ou have to choose kde from sessions or is it defaulted to kde after that?02:08
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fredxanyone willing to answer a few questions? I just installed ubuntu for the first time02:08
Riddelldelltony: when it installs kdm it should give you an option02:08
delltonyin sessions though correct?02:09
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Riddelldelltony: oh not sure what the default is, I shold find that out really02:09
tckhmm amaroK isn't in synaptic02:10
tckam i mispelling it ?02:10
delltonywell what i'm wondering is this do i have to type the kdm command to load the desktopmanager or select it from a menu?02:10
tckah its kde based02:10
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delltony250 packages must be some kinda sweetness ;)02:12
regeya_indeed, amaroK is kde-based02:12
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technodude90how come when I mount my fat32 file system with Ubuntu it thinks that folders in the hierarchy are files?02:12
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regeya_the only place I've seen amarok packages is kalypso, but I haven't looked in some time02:12
MZEAmarok is in the standard AMD64 repositories I think.02:13
tckhaven't used it yet, a few peeps were recommending it02:13
tcktotem is just annoying to use, vlc is alot better02:13
Riddellamarok is in there, it may not be in main yet I'm not sure02:13
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regeya_it's a nice player...amarok is more "competitive" with rhythmbox02:13
regeya_comparing amarok and totem is like comparing rhythmbox and kaffeine...doesn't make sense02:14
technodude90I did mount /dev/hda1 /mnt and it mounted my fat32 as a vfat file system02:14
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MZEI'm listening to tracks on it now.  :)  I think it might be time to try out the iPod functionality.02:14
regeya_or comparing dpkg to yum02:14
technodude90When I look at my directories in the console they appear as directories02:14
technodude90In metacity, it thinks that these directories are files and thus will not open them02:14
delltonyaww Riddell i see what you mean it promps you for the default02:15
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Riddelldelltony: and I hope you went for KDM :)02:17
delltonywell i didn't i left it at gdm hope that doesn't matter02:17
delltonyi want to test the pie before i buy02:18
delltony:P02:18
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mdzRiddell: amarok is not in main yet02:20
rommercan someone help a noob to install a network device02:20
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delltonyRiddell, all i can say is wowwwwwwwwwwwwww :)02:21
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Fr0d0hi02:21
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Riddellmdz: it's in the seeds though.  is it on the CD?02:22
Fr0d0I just copied my first dvd fully in Ubuntu02:22
spudsebob2: is this the exact boot --> linux archive_copier/copy=false02:23
spudsebecause it didnt work02:23
mdzRiddell: no, the CD is built from main02:23
spudseit was still upacking from hd02:23
mdzRiddell: amarok was excluded from the metapackage dependencies because it wasn't in main02:23
delltonyRiddell, one thing the fonts in here xchat are small as crap any way to fix that ? never  used kde before02:23
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rommercan someone help me to install a ethernet device in ubuntu (broadcom440 lan)02:24
delltonyaww i see whats a good font for xchat? size and font?02:24
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HrdwrBoBdelltony: yes, anything fixed width02:24
Riddelldelltony: xchat isn't a KDE app02:24
HrdwrBoBlike 'monospace'02:24
mdzrommer: 440 or 4400?02:25
Fr0d0Hi again delltony...how do you make a program an exec file...forgive me for my lack of knowledge02:25
rommercan't remember02:25
mdzrommer: 4400 should just work.  I'm not sure about 44002:25
delltonyoh you asking about executing02:25
rommerthats probably it then02:25
rommerit should just work02:25
delltonyyou use perl,python,bash02:25
rommerwell its not just working for me02:26
delltonyaww this is much better and im assuming there is a way to change the name on the side of this kde "startbutton"02:26
mdzrommer: I'm afraid you'll need to be a bit more specific02:26
delltonythis is so cool the graphics are pardon the language but kick ass02:26
Fr0d0ok that is like French to me, but I'm guessing I type that first in command line02:26
delltonyFr0d0, pm me02:27
Fr0d0how?02:27
Fr0d0lol02:27
spudseanybody else can help a newb with installing ubuntu to 1.5 gb harddisk ?02:27
Fr0d0new to irc too02:27
Fr0d0IM A NEWB02:27
spudsenew to irc ? where have you been ? ;)02:27
siimodoes ubuntu include the pine mail client ?02:27
rommerhmm i went into device manager, at the bottom is bcm4401 100Base-T-> Vendor :Broadcom02:27
rommerso it looks like it has found it02:28
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delltonytype /msg delltony hi02:28
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Riddelldelltony: not yet, branding with pretty kubuntu pictures is still to come02:28
delltonyok well the idea is grand keep up the good work02:29
delltonyat least in here you can actually change the menu's instead of gnome's pain in the ass way now days02:29
delltonyi wrote that application to do it in a gui but still its a pain02:29
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hankAnyone, know anything about getting wireless network cards to work or were I might ind out02:30
hankwith ubuntu ofcourse02:30
delltonyndiswrapper02:30
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delltonyfind your driver (windows driver) and then ndiswrapper -i <inffilehere>02:31
delltonythen ndiswrapper -l to see if it took it02:31
delltonythen ndiswrapper -m to make the alias02:31
delltonythen modprobe ndiswrapper02:31
hankmm, okay. I'll try that. Where might I find the windows driver? On the windows partition I take it?02:32
kaosI keep getting this message at the bash prompt when I do this :02:32
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kaosroot@ubuntu:/home/fred/Desktop/installs # ./j2re-1_4_2_07-linux-i586.rpm02:32
kaosbash: ./j2re-1_4_2_07-linux-i586.rpm: Permission denied02:32
kaoswtf02:32
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kaosanyone02:32
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delltonywell generally from your manufactors website like with me i have a dell02:32
delltonyso the windows drivers were on there02:32
siimokaos, try chmod +x ./j2re-1_4_2_07-linux-i586.rpm02:33
HrdwrBoBum02:33
kaosthanks siimo I'll give it a go02:33
HrdwrBoBthat's because it's an rpm02:33
kerframilkaos: you're not supposed to execute an rpm02:33
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HrdwrBoByou will want then 'bin'02:33
StoffBox-Steve.rpm on ubuntu ?02:33
HrdwrBoB*the02:33
wavefunction'nite.02:33
siimokaos, oh its a RPM ,02:33
StoffBox-Steveubuntu use .deb package not rpm02:33
siimokaos, you should get the self extracting package from java site02:33
hankOKay great. THanks, you're very helpful02:34
StoffBox-Stevekaos, you have to load the .bin file from the sun.com website02:34
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kaosroot@ubuntu:/home/fred/Desktop/installs # chmod +x ./j2re-1_4_2_07-i586.rpm02:34
kaoschmod: failed to get attributes of `./j2re-1_4_2_07-i586.rpm': No such file or directory02:34
siimokaos, forget that02:35
delltonyKaos, there is a great step by step instruction on the ubuntuguide.org02:35
delltonyfor installing java02:35
siimokaos, try this instead  'alien -i ./j2re-1_4_2_07-i586.rpm'02:35
StoffBox-Stevedelet that rpm file you cant use it on ubuntu kaos02:35
siimokaos, you might have to apt-get install alien02:35
delltonywhy not use the bin file ?02:35
kerframilkaos: an apt source is available - it's unofficial but I daresay it will serve your needs better02:35
kaoswell i tried ./sundl.bin and it just agravates me02:35
siimowell he can save the download again02:35
kerframilkaos: http://ubuntujava.yimports.com/Documentation.shtml02:35
wavefunctionI've followed the instructions on the howto's but I just cannot make my pcmcia/wireless network card (DWL-G650+) function. It was simple and fast when I did it function on Crux Linux, so it isn't the card problem. Any idea ?02:36
mseneyi still don't understand the difference between Hoary 5.04 Array 5 and 6. I'm still very new to ubuntu and installed off the Hoary 5.04 Array-5 CD I made. I always update daily so how can I tell if I have Array 6?02:36
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delltonydid you update or dist-upgrade?02:36
kaosroot@ubuntu:/home/fred/Desktop/installs # alien -i j2re-1_4_2_07-linux-i586.rpm02:36
kaosmkdir: cannot create directory `j2re-1_4_2_07-linux-i586.rpm:': File exists02:36
kaosmkdir: cannot create directory `read': File exists02:36
kaosmkdir: cannot create directory `manifest': File exists02:36
kaosmkdir: cannot create directory `failed:': File exists02:36
kaosmkdir: cannot create directory `Success': File exists02:36
kaossh: line 2: -j2re_1_4_2_07_linux_i586.rpm:: command not found02:36
kaossh: line 2: -j2re_1_4_2_07_linux_i586.rpm:: command not found02:36
kaossh: -c: line 3: syntax error near unexpected token `;'02:36
kaossh: -c: line 3: `; cpio --extract --make-directories --no-absolute-filenames --p reserve-modification-time) 2>&1'02:36
kerframilkaos: here's some more instructions: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java15 (I can vouch that it works perfectly)02:36
HrdwrBoBkaos: do not do that02:36
mseneydelltony, me?02:36
kaosUnsuccessful stat on filename containing newline at /usr/share/perl5/Alien/Packa ge/Rpm.pm line 164.02:36
kaosmkdir: cannot create directory `j2re-1_4_2_07-linux-i586.rpm: read manifest fail ed: Success\n-j2re_1_4_2_07_linux_i586.rpm: read manifest failed: Success\n/j2re -1_4_2_07-linux-i586.rpm: read manifest failed: Success\n': No such file or dire ctory02:36
delltonyyes02:36
kerframilkaos: just use the apt source02:36
HrdwrBoBkaos: and do not post it here02:36
kaosmv: invalid option -- j02:37
kaosTry `mv --help' for more information.02:37
kaossh: line 2: -j2re_1_4_2_07_linux_i586.rpm:: command not found02:37
kaossh: line 3: -type: command not found02:37
QuaruptHowcome when i plug my thumbdrive in it doesnt mount anymore?02:37
kaosArgument "j2re-1_4_2_07-linux-i586.rpm:" isn't numeric in bitwise and (&) at /us r/share/perl5/Alien/Package/Rpm.pm line 203, <GETPERMS> line 1.02:37
zenroxkaos read www.ubuntuguide.org for instustions on how to install java02:37
kaosUnsuccessful stat on filename containing newline at /usr/share/perl5/Alien/Packa ge/Rpm.pm line 222, <GETPERMS> line 1.02:37
kaosmkdir: cannot create directory `j2re-1_4_2_07-linux-i586.rpm:': File exists02:37
kaosmkdir: cannot create directory `read': File exists02:37
kaosmkdir: cannot create directory `manifest': File exists02:37
kaosmkdir: cannot create directory `failed:': File exists02:37
StoffBox-Steve*arg* #flood02:37
kaosmkdir: cannot create directory `Success': File exists02:37
kaossh: line 2: -j2re_1_4_2_07_linux_i586.rpm:: command not found02:37
kaossh: line 3: /debian: No such file or directory02:37
mseneydelltony, um after $sudo apt-get dist-upgrade advised me there were 14 packages I could get yes just a few minutes ago02:37
QuaruptDUDe use #flood or pastebin02:37
kaossh: -c: line 3: syntax error near unexpected token `;'02:37
delltonydist-upgrade will give you array 6 or whatever the current snapshot is02:37
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kaossh: -c: line 3: `; patch -p1)'02:37
kaossh: line 2: -j2re_1_4_2_07_linux_i586.rpm:: command not found02:37
kaossh: line 3: -name: command not found02:37
kaospatch failed with .rej fi02:37
kaoswell I have alien so it says02:37
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HrdwrBoBkaos: please do not flood in here.02:37
zenroxkaos read www.ubuntuguide.org for instustions on how to install java02:37
arbeckcan someone help me with cdrecord02:37
rattboi24I hate to sound like a retard, especially with it on the boards as much as it is, but I'm wondering how to update my nvidia drivers since I updated my kernel?02:38
delltonyok then if you did dist-upgrade you should be running the latest greatest02:38
siimokaos, like i said use alien02:38
siimokaos, if you really want to use that RPM you downloaded02:38
StoffBox-Stevedont post more than 2 - 3 lines of code in this channel kaos02:38
rattboi24I see that there is nvidia-kernel deb, but it's for 2.6.8, I believe?02:38
arbeckcdrdao works great, but i gnomebaker and cdrecord don't02:38
kerframilkaos: please do not use alien or rpm, it's really quite simple02:38
mseneydelltony, what is the latest i686 kernel w/ Array 6?02:38
kerframilkaos: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java1502:38
kaosalright my apologies02:38
StoffBox-Stevewhen you are not a modem user; the easy way is to the bin file and install it ...02:39
kerframilkaos: you only need to add an additional apt source and you will be able to use apt-get/synaptic as per normal02:39
delltonylet me see what i'm running02:39
johnwlnot sure about cdrecord..using K3b here02:39
kaosI just needed a solution to a problem I don't very much want to pretend to understand02:39
delltonyi think i'm on 2.6.10-4-68602:39
mseneydelltony, synaptic says i have Linux 2.6.10-5-686 but uname says I have -4?02:39
delltonylet me check mine02:39
mseneyk02:39
siimomseney, maybe you are running -4 but you do have -502:40
mseneysiimo, it didn't make an entry in the /boot/grub/menu.1st02:40
delltonyi'm running 402:40
arbeckjohnwl: i don't want to install k3b because of all the qt stuff i'd have to grab02:40
Quaruptwhats the easiest way to mount a usb drive?02:40
siimomseney, not sure if you can have both though thought -5 was a update to -402:40
arbeckarbeck: i've written some python scripts to burn audio cd's... but as of right now i'm not able to burn a data cd02:41
siimomseney, what does this say: dpkg -l | grep linux-image02:41
mseneysiimo, ii  linux-image-2. 2.6.10-19      Linux kernel image for version 2.6.10 on 38602:41
mseneyii  linux-image-2. 2.6.10-25      Linux kernel image for version 2.6.10 on PPr02:41
mseneyii  linux-image-68 2.6.10-5       Linux kernel image on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/02:41
tritiummseney, did you reboot yet after installing it?02:42
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mseneyi've rebooted since checking w/ synaptic which version i have02:42
siimomseney, ok you have 3 kernels then02:42
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Fr0d0Dell...in room02:42
QuaruptMy thumb drive usually shows up in the "places" menu? but its not now, how can i access it?02:43
Quarupt?02:43
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johnwli didnt have to grab a bunch of QT stuff to run K3b...or did I somehow do that without knowing about it?02:45
kerframiljohnwl: it requires qt and kdelibs, no question about that ;)02:46
kerframilQuarupt: you might try kickstarting the gnome-panel again: kill -HUP `pidof gnome-panel`02:46
johnwlso apt-get install k3b will grab qt and kdelibs?02:46
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kerframiljohnwl: for the answers: apt-cache show k3b | less02:47
kerframiljohnwl: see the "Depends:" line02:48
jesuelmm fppd02:48
jesuelerr food02:48
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thanatosyshey hey hey02:48
thanatosyswhats goin on fellow ubuntu users02:48
johnwlkerframil oooh nice command lol. thx.02:48
kerframilnp02:49
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tckdoes xmms have a traydock icon ?02:50
kcshile, I installed pyphany for epiphany, select console in extensions, but it doesnt appear in tools menu, has someone any idea?02:50
membreyakerframil: is there a page that shows all the apt commands..cos there seems to be a ton of them02:50
thanatosyswmxmms02:50
thanatosysi think that is it02:50
tckused that before02:50
tckterrible02:50
johnwlso is there any reason, other than philosophical, to avoid QT and the KDE libs?02:50
bob2tck: in the xmms-status-plugin package02:51
kerframilmembreya: not that I know of (yet) as I'm a Gentoo user and a relative Debian noob02:51
zenroxtck,  ya its a plugin for xmms called status plug02:51
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toothpickWill the kubuntu cd do a hd install?02:51
bob2membreya: man apt-get02:51
tckcheers peeps!02:51
kerframilmembreya: if you just type apt-cache --help and apt-get --help then that's 90% of the important stuff covered02:51
bob2toothpick: the install cd will02:51
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kerframilmembreya: and, of course, the man pages02:51
kerframilmembreya: apt-setup is also very useful02:51
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kerframiljohnwl: not really02:53
tckhmm that status-plugin for xmms works02:53
johnwlwoo-hoo02:53
kerframiljohnwl: here's another good one btw: sudo apt-get -s install k3b02:53
johnwlwhats the -s?02:53
tckbut the window is still visible when minimised :/02:53
kerframiljohnwl: the -s will actually ensure that it does nothing; rather it will show you what it would do if it were allowed to perform the operation02:53
johnwlvery nice..thank you.02:53
kerframilwhich is another approach to the same issue02:54
johnwlapt-get is the best thing ever...always wondered what the Debian peeps were so giddy about02:54
kerframilyes, it is an excellent system02:54
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spudsei've got a question regarding ram, ive got a 512 sdram chip which look like this, ###### ######, now i also got a chip (64mb) that looks like this ### ##### ########, how are they called ?02:55
kerframiljohnwl: everything else that I've seen just seems to be a hack by comparison (portage notwithstanding)02:55
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toothpickI've yet to use portage...but one day I'll try it.02:56
spudsequestion aswered sorry :)02:56
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colin__is there a clearlooks engine deb for ubuntu floating around?02:56
johnwlkerframil: it's just so fast. I came from SUSE and Yast is easy but clunky and slow.02:56
kerframilsure02:56
beowuffHello, I'm new to Ubuntu and02:57
kerframiltoothpick: it's very good. obviously, apt is more mature and has a few benefits of its own (such as excellent reverse dependency handling)02:57
kerframilthen again, portage has some cool tricks up its sleeve too02:57
thenukespudse: well, the one with two empty spaces looks like DDR SDRAM02:57
beowuffHello, I'm new to Ubuntu and Debian. Was wondering about upgrades. When a new version of ubuntu comes out, do you need to upgrade from a cd, or can you do it online through Ubuntu?02:58
kerframilbeowuff: yes, you can do it online02:58
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bob2beowuff: online, of course02:58
QuaruptI habet gotten any updates today, has anyone else?02:58
Quarupthavent02:58
johnwlbeowuff: Read this on updates. good info: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#ubuntuupdates02:58
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johnwlThe unofficial starter guide is your friend...it's an awesome resource.02:59
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beowuffCool. Going to try ubuntu on my sony viao this weekend.02:59
johnwlgo through the starter guide step by step and in 20-30 minutes you'll be nicely configured..esp. for multimedia03:00
hankhey Tony. Is ndiswrapper a standard ubuntu command? doesn't seem to do anything03:00
delltonyyou have to download it03:00
hankahh sweet/03:00
hankthanks03:00
scot_hello all, I am working on a fresh install, a convert from FC.  I am having very slow DNS resolution.  I am thinking that it is a matter of IPV6.  How can I turn off IPV6??03:01
hankcan I use apt-get to install it?03:01
mdzhank: sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils03:01
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mdzhank: however, it's not included on the Ubuntu 4.10 CD (it is there in the development releases)03:01
hankgreat, thanks mdz03:02
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beowuffAnybody running winex?03:02
johnwlnot here03:02
bob2beowuff: #cedega is a better place to get support for that03:03
StoffBox-Stevespudse,  ####### ###### = DDR(2) SDRAM ### #### ######## = SDRAM ( older than DDR )03:03
bob2or talk to transgaming directly03:03
delltonyspeakign of ndiswrapper i have yet to understand why i have to do a ifdown ifup everytime i start gnome for my network to kick in03:03
beowuffNot asking for support. Just wondering how it runs on ubuntu.03:03
zenroxbeowuff,  it works03:03
zenroxlol03:03
delltonythe module and all loads fine but its as if the network trys to go up before the module kicks in03:03
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usualwhat do I need to install to have totem play wmv's?03:05
scot_yo yo yo, help a brother out.  How can I disable IPV6???03:05
hankwhat's winex? a simulator?\03:05
bob2usual: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats03:05
bob2hank: www.transgaming.com03:05
bob2scot_: that's come up numerous times on the lists03:05
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usualbob2, ok, I got everything playing except those, well the wmv audio plays just not the video03:06
scot_can you point me at a faq? or a howto??03:06
bob2usual: sounds like you need some el-dodgo windows dlls03:06
bob2assuming you're on i38603:06
usualyeah03:06
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usualbob2, instructions anywhere on using dll's?03:07
bob212:05:38           bob2 | usual: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats03:07
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usualbob2, ok, I searched the page for dll and it didn't find anything..I'll look around though03:08
bob2usual: w32codecs from marillat's repository03:08
usuali see03:08
usualty03:08
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zenroxall the probs for the day are sulved03:14
zenroxwoohoo03:14
zenroxalt least we can hope03:14
blizahto run counterstrike i use wine or another such program?03:14
blizahnope..03:14
zenroxblizah,  yep03:15
zenroxgoogle will be your friend03:15
zenroxtoo03:15
bob2blizah: http://lhl.linuxgames.com/03:15
bob2which is, shockingly, the first hit for "linux half life"03:15
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zenroxlol03:16
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dazedgod i love linux03:17
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dazed:)03:17
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compmanio36yo my ppl03:17
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dazedi have a question for anyone who knows about gkrellm ...i saw a screen shot with a volume bar on someones gkrellm and i would like to know how to get it...if its a plugin where to get it how to install?03:18
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bob2scot_: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=238103:18
zenroxdazed,  its a plugin03:18
Fr0d0dell: got an error  I sudo php --g addmenu.php  and got an error03:18
bob2dazed:  apt-cache search volume gkrellmm03:18
delltonywhat error?03:19
Fr0d0come private03:19
hiweedhey all, is there any other irc chanel for Ubuntu Developers?03:19
PacoBCNhi guys03:19
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PacoBCNpretty late here but nice to find someone still awake03:19
bob2hank: yes, but it's for actual development03:19
bob2not for asking questions03:20
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PacoBCNhey guys, did any of you managed to install/use flumotion?03:20
bob2er, hiweed03:20
utsav_what's that?03:20
bob2PacoBCN: jdub did03:21
hiweedbob2: thanks. I am a developer of Hiweed-03:21
dazedonce i installed the volume package should it show up in my plugs?03:21
hiweedbob2: thanks. I am a developer of Hiweed-Debian GNU/Linux03:21
bob2hiweed: #ubuntu-devel03:21
ggeeckowhat is a good mpeg player to use??03:21
hiweedbob2: ktks03:21
wavefunction'nite. I just couldn't get my D-link DWL-G650+ to work with "warty". I had a successful configuration with CRUX linux and thought it could be a kernel problem (I used 2.6.10 in CRUX). Got a knoppix-based distro called kurumin and ... it was a piece of cake. Kernel 2.6.8.1-kanotix-10.03:21
bob2ggeecko: xine03:21
zenroxdazed,  with a little config in gkrellm03:21
zenroxggeecko, gxine03:21
jdubPacoBCN: http://node.waugh.id.au:8800/ :-)03:22
dazedi knew that lol03:22
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rommerhow can i log in as administrator?03:23
utsav_wavefunction: Did you try using drivers from the chipsets site instead of the ones from dlink with ndiswrapper?03:23
utsav_rommer: you use sudo03:23
bluefoxicyhttp://bash.org/?46906403:23
billytwowillyis there a formal way to request a package?03:23
PacoBCNjdob, is that a video stream?03:23
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rommerutsav_: i login with my normal user account then go to terminal?03:23
bob2PacoBCN: yes03:24
Rockett17anyone here ever tried to use a tv card with the ati drivers?03:24
bob2rommer: yes03:24
rommerthanks03:24
wavefunctionutsav_, what are "drivers from chipset" ? I used the drive that came with the adapter, from a CD.03:24
ggeeckobob2: is it apt-get install xine??03:24
billytwowillyRockett17, last I heard the ati all in wonders don't work. atleast not the tv tuner portion.03:24
wavefunctions/drive/driver03:24
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bob2ggeecko: gxine, yes03:24
utsav_rommer:   there's a place on the wiki that gives a howto03:24
CarlKhoary server, what do I need to apt-get to host a usb printer?03:25
Rockett17i have a seperate tv card.. but tvtime doesnt open and xawtv just blacks out the xserver03:25
PacoBCNcool, never manged to use a java applet to display it?03:25
utsav_wavefunction:  I had to go online and grab them from realtek for my dlink.. it just wouldn't budge with ndiswrapper and the one on the CD03:25
ggeeckobob2: says that is couldnt find gxine03:25
bob2ggeecko: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats03:25
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utsav_wavefunction: It wouldn't work with the drivers from even dlink's site03:25
hankwhen I've installed the inffile and I then list the drivers should it find the hardware? Mine says hardware not present03:26
utsav_rommer: you can type sudo passwd to set the admin password03:26
jdubrommer: www.ubuntu.com/wiki/RootSudo03:28
jdubrommer: don't set the root password, use sudo03:28
utsav_I'm jsut curiosu what's the advantage of sudo?03:29
rommerok thanks03:29
wavefunctionutsav_, In my case DWL-G650+ uses a TI (Texas Instruments) chipset. It is a ACX111. I've found acx100.sf.net. So I think I should try it to get work with ubuntu.03:29
bob2utsav_: read that page03:29
utsav_wavefunctionOh, I just assumed that you were using ndiswrapper right away03:30
utsav_wavefunction , my bad03:30
wavefunctionutsav_, The weird thing is why does it functions with CRUX, Kurumin, etc and not with Ubuntu ... :(03:30
utsav_wavefunction , sorry 'boot that.. I've only ever used ndiswrapper.. (silly realtek chipset)03:31
wavefunctionutsav_, No, you were right. I *am* using ndiswrapper right now with Kurumin. I also used it with CRUX. But it does not function with Ubuntu.03:31
utsav_wavefunction : I think the ndiswrapper with warty is a bit dated... can you compare the versions you were using?03:32
CarlKwhy does /etc/papersize default to A4?03:32
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hankim using ndiswrapper atm with ubuntu asweel03:34
hankaswell03:34
utsav_Ithink that's 8.5x11 , which is all we use up north in Canada03:34
hankit uses the driver but doesn't appear to find the hardware03:34
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utsav_I had that problem once.. I had to find another driver03:34
utsav_I had to use the one from realtek instead of dlink03:35
utsav_try a similar/older/different driver03:35
utsav_but first check the wiki at ndiswrapper.sf.net to see if your card is supported03:35
hankokay thanks, I'll check03:36
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QuaruptIs there any like Ejay ports or anything for music, something like reason or fruity loops?03:36
Quaruptany music creation software03:36
utsav_Is  that a like a spiral synthesizer?03:37
neomI'm running apache on my ubuntu box. The DocumentRoot points to a mount. That mount is a mount of a shared folder on a remote windows box. Within the mount, i have created to other mounts to other folders on this remote windows box. When viewing the site, these just show up as directorys witin the index page. I need to protect one of the folders. I tired htaccess, but for some reason it didn't work. Suggestions?03:37
Quarupt?03:37
Quaruptanyone know of any?03:37
johnwldumb question..i want to set permissions on a directory and all its sub dirs and files..is there a way to do that in nautilus or is it easier to chmod from the command line?03:37
wavefunctionutsav_, I'll build it by hand and try to recompile the kernel, a vanila one. I think it is a *patch*/kernel problem.03:38
Quaruptjust launch Naut as root03:38
Quaruptand go for it03:38
utsav_Quarupt, I tried some music editors in linux a while back.. There was rosegarden ,audacity and some smaller apps.. There's pbbly more know, but that's all I can think of03:38
bob2johnwl: probably easier to use chmod03:38
wavefunctionutsav_, Anyway, thanks for your time. :)03:38
johnwlQuarupt: try this site http://linux-sound.org/ddj.html03:38
LinuxJonesjohns_, chmod -R03:38
utsav_wavefunction , Ididn't have to recompile the kernel03:38
Quaruptutsav_, are those just for editing or creating?03:38
johnwlthx guys03:39
hankI'd like good music software too quarupt03:39
utsav_both03:39
LinuxJonesjohns_, sorry that was for johnwl  chmod -R03:39
utsav_utsav, audacity does editing, rosegarden can do some composing03:39
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equexGuys, check this site out www.peoplesprimary.com/FreedomIsntFree03:39
equexReally cool03:39
utsav_I have a question.. I can't get my alps touchpad to work like a touchpad.. works fine as a mouse.. It looks like the kernel can't find it to be an alps when I do cat /proc/bus/input/devices.. It shows ImPS/2 Generic Wheel Mouse.  Any ideas?03:40
equexYou can find the solution here www.peoplesprimary.com/FreedomIsntFree03:40
utsav_Iknow it's an alps 'cause windows says it is03:40
utsav_but I'm stuck on this one03:40
rommeram i able to get to 'Network Settings' without being root/administrator?03:40
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Amaranthbleh, stupid political activists03:41
Amaranthoh, gnaa03:41
neomAnyone know anything about my problem?03:41
bob2Amaranth: yeah03:41
Quaruptwow this Tetris techno song is cool03:42
Devinciutsav_ try the synaptics driver, I have a touchpad and this driver works pretty well03:42
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utsav_Devinci, I tried, but the Xorg.0.log says it can't load it03:42
bob2neom: sounds like you misconfigured the htaccess file03:42
bluefoxicywhat the03:42
bluefoxicywhere'd gnomebaker go o.o03:42
utsav_Devinci , tpconfig -l also says there is no synaptics hardware03:43
neombob2 - It could be, I wasn't sure if I should put the passwd file on the linux box or the windows box.03:43
neomAnd what path to use.03:43
bob2neom: ? it's one filesystem03:43
neomNo..03:43
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neomBecause the .htaccess file is on the remote windows box.03:44
bob2indeed03:44
Devincicant you just manually add the alps driver in xorg.conf?03:44
spudseI thought firefox blocks popups :)03:44
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bob2but it doesn't matter whether you put it there on windows or linux, it's the same filesystem03:44
Devincior XF86Config-403:44
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neomoh03:44
bob2spudse: some idiots worked around it03:44
spudsetoo bad03:44
PacoBCNindeed03:45
Amaranthnot difficult03:45
neombob2 - Either way, it dosn't work, heh.03:45
utsav_Devinci , I suspect the synaptics is supposed to cover the alps03:45
spudsethought it was some opensource website about freedom or stuff like that :)03:45
Amaranthi figured it was right-wing bullshit03:45
hankWhat was with that website? It opened up a million windows andI had to reboot?!03:46
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bob2it's an idiot troll03:46
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hankahh, what losers pursue these ends03:46
hank?03:46
QuaruptIm taking a Unix Intro class next quarter will it be relivant to Linux?03:46
Quaruptlike CMI stuff?03:46
HrdwrBoByes03:46
zenroxQuarupt, yes03:46
Quaruptcool03:46
QuaruptBut probably Not X stuff03:47
Quarupthuh03:47
zenroxlinux unix are basckly the same03:47
HrdwrBoBQuarupt: it's all about building blocks03:47
PacoBCNdammit, now I realize I don't have sound :S03:47
zenroxQuarupt, yes probly xstuff03:47
HrdwrBoBQuarupt: once you understand the way the system works you can do cool stufff03:47
hankMmm, ndiswrapper aint going to gung ho for me, anyone with another wireless network card detection soltuion?03:47
QuaruptNot Linux is something Linus made from Unix its a variant03:47
HrdwrBoBstuff03:47
bob2Quarupt: no, it's not03:48
bob2Linux is completely independant of Unix, it just looks a lot like it03:48
bob2it was written from scratch03:48
utsav_Well thanks anyhoo, I figure I'll just wait for the kernel release, that always fixes everything.03:48
zenroxand acts like unix03:48
QuaruptThats what im saying lol03:48
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QuaruptMy argument is that there different03:48
calcgar03:48
HrdwrBoBQuarupt: don't bother arguing that until you understand what you're arguing about :)03:48
calcfaac/faad in multiverse is bunged up03:48
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Quaruptalso a CCNE03:49
hankOh, btw, where is there a listing of all the repositories?03:49
Quaruptubuntuguide.org03:49
hankreally? I'll check it out again. didnt see it there.03:49
bob2linux certification's don't tend to cover "history of the linux source code"03:49
Quaruptits on that page03:50
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hankim an idiot03:50
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mdzthere are plenty of UNIX history web pages out there if anyone is curious03:50
HrdwrBoBQuarupt: There's always someone cooler than you03:51
calcerm is there another version of faac outside of ubuntu that isn't castrated?03:51
QuaruptLet me educate you about Linus Trovalds, because i can allready tell i learned more about him then you have, in my Open-source history class last quarter03:51
zenroxya goggle can be your freind too mdz03:51
zenroxlol03:51
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Brunellusanybody have any ideas as to how to get bittorrent running on warty?03:52
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bob2Brunellus: install bittornado03:53
bob2Quarupt: a) I doubt that, b) it's off-topic03:53
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mdzHrdwrBoB, Quarupt easy, folks.  There's no need to argue about it here; as I said, there's plenty of information out there if anyone is curious03:54
QuaruptI don't care, don't try to talk about things you don't understand, you make yourself sound dumb, and im not gunna be like you and try to flame, just no your place03:54
Brunellushuzzah.03:54
BrunellusI'd installed "bittorrent"03:54
Quarupt./ignore03:54
BrunellusI didn't know bittornado was what was needed03:54
HrdwrBoBhey, I'm cool03:54
hankyou can download Azurias. Just follow the directions at ubuntuguide.org03:56
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rommerhurrah for network access!03:57
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PacoBCNI really wish there will be a backport for gaim-vv03:58
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mac_n_cheezhello03:59
mac_n_cheezanyone there?03:59
zenroxPacoBCN, gaim-vv uses an older ver of gaim04:00
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mac_n_cheezhello04:00
zenroxmac_n_cheez, yep i am here i think04:00
mac_n_cheezhello04:00
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mac_n_cheezah04:00
mac_n_cheezok04:00
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mac_n_cheezwhy does ubuntu ship without kde? does anyone know?04:00
calcmac_n_cheez: its in univers04:00
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mac_n_cheezcouldn't get it installed last night04:01
bob2mac_n_cheez: because it won't fit on a single CD04:01
mac_n_cheezis it available for ppc also?04:01
Fr0d0Tony:  got this error, "Warning: unknown mime-type for "menu" -- using "application/*"04:01
Fr0d0Error: no "edit" mailcap rules found for type "application/*"04:01
johnwland focusing on gnome was part of the goals of the project to begin with wasn't it?04:01
jdubmac_n_cheez: ubuntu is gnome based. kubuntu is kde based.04:01
thullyIn Hoary, KDE's in main now - and there is a special install CD for KDE, called KUbuntu04:01
mac_n_cheezkubuntu????04:01
jdubthully: "Kubuntu", despite the subject of the announcement04:01
mac_n_cheezwhere do I get it?04:02
bob2kde's in supported now?04:02
Riddelljdub: can you put this in the /topic http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2005-March/000023.html04:02
jdubbob2: yes04:02
mac_n_cheezis it on the main site ?04:02
jdubjohnwl: yes04:02
jdubman, our topic is useless04:02
mac_n_cheezis it available for ppc?04:02
Quest-Master:o KDE is supported?!04:02
mac_n_cheezkewl I'll go look for it04:03
mac_n_cheezTTYL04:03
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rommeris ndiswrapper already on the default ubuntu or do i have to install it?04:03
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hankmust be installed.04:03
johnwlat the risk of sounding stupid any x windows is possible i'd imagine. right?04:03
rommerhow would i do that?04:04
Quest-Masterrommer: You must install it04:04
hanksudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils04:04
jdubjohnwl: hrm?04:04
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johnwlx windows interface04:04
rommerthanks04:04
calchmm it appears faac/faad must not be 64bit clean or else is otherwise very buggy :\04:04
rommeri tried apt-get ndiswrapper but it didnt work04:04
hanknp, tony told me04:04
jdubjohnwl: of course.04:04
jdubjohnwl: most are in universe.04:04
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hanktry with the utils extension04:04
johnwlyeah im here for the GNOME focus..just making sure I understood that.04:04
fred_y04:05
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Fr0d0can the live cd install on hard drive (as Mepis)?04:06
bob2no04:06
Fr0d0thanks04:06
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billytwowillyWhen I try and use kmid it says "/dev/snd/seq failed: no such file or directory" how do I fix this?04:08
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dbosuggestions for p2p software04:10
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johnwldbo: limewire04:12
dbomy room mate is using mldonkey04:12
billytwowillygiFT04:12
billytwowillyusenet..04:12
johnwlnever heard of it..but then I don't p2p04:12
dbocan i just apt-get gift04:12
billytwowillyapt-get install giFT04:13
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pussfellermldoinkey is da best04:13
silversurfernicotine is pretty good too04:14
silversurferif you only want music04:14
CarlKwhat is the ubunto page that lets me search what packages supply what?04:14
pussfelleryou can run it headless from terminal and connect with the browser at need so it dont shutdown on your xseesion04:14
bob2CarlK: there isn't one04:14
pussfellernicotine is really heavy to run04:14
pussfellerslow on my machine anyways04:14
CarlKbob2 - um... I used it a week or so ago04:15
silversurferit runs like silk on my p4 2.804:15
silversurferthen again everything seems to04:15
pussfellerheh well i got a p2 40004:15
silversurferwoah04:15
pussfellerlegacy land over here04:16
silversurferhow come such an ancient rig?04:16
pussfellerno money :(04:16
johnwlUbuntu Packages: http://higgs.djpig.de/ubuntu/www/04:16
CarlKthere we go04:16
johnwlnot sure if that's what you want CarkK04:16
CarlKthanks04:16
silversurferdont tell me you have a geforce fx580004:16
CarlKexactly what I wanted04:17
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pussfelleri got a g4 mx40004:17
rommerthat would outrun ur cpu04:18
silversurferyup04:18
silversurferhaha04:18
silversurferglad you didnt go with gentoo, else you'd still be compiling04:18
billytwowillyBoo gentoo. Yay not gentoo....04:19
johnwlpussfeller: how does ubuntu run on your p2?04:19
billytwowillywell, I think I've contributed quite enough to this chan for today;)04:19
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pussfellerslowly04:19
pussfelleri use flux cuase gnome was so slow04:20
CarlKGENeraly TOO... um...what did I come up with ...04:20
johnwlgood idea04:20
QuaruptGnome isnt slow on my box04:20
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pussfelleri ran gentoo on here for a long time04:20
pussfellerbut i used distcc to my other boxes and it wasnt so bad04:20
johnwlI ran mandrake version um something or other with KDE on my pentium pro a few years ago...wasnt as bad as I thought04:20
hankIve gotten some linux drivers for my wireless card. Does anyone know how to install them?04:21
silversurferah, i've always wanted to try dcc, just never had the nuts to04:21
j-rockanyone know what package provides gmake?04:21
j-rockbinutils?04:21
CarlKjrock - you need this site04:22
CarlKhttp://higgs.djpig.de/ubuntu/www/04:22
j-rockk04:22
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CarlKleme know if you can figure out what supplies printer.ko ;)04:22
pussfelleri wish they would tighten up x somehow so it runs as well as the windows gui does04:22
pussfellercause win2k ran much faster on this machine04:22
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hankis x what ubuntu uses?04:22
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goldfish_yep04:23
regeya_wonder how long it'll be until there's a good gtkhtml browser :-)04:23
pussfellerx is what everything linux uses for graphics04:23
hankahh okay. I find it better than windows but I was using the clunky XP04:23
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pussfellerwell xp might be differnt, its really ram heavy04:23
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johnwlforgive my lame explanation but X is what runs between linux and whatever GUI you choose (GNOME, KDE, fluxbox, etc)04:24
pussfellerwin2k gets that way when you plug in all the service packs too04:24
hankahh right, the x386 file04:24
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hankyeah, I found win2K faster than XP04:24
CarlKever seen win3.11 on a P4? ;)04:25
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Fr0d0Xp is faster than 2000, just it must be optimized04:25
hankhaha, nope. Does it fly04:25
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sylvaiwin3..1 on a p4, that odd04:25
hankoh yeah? What kind of optimizations?04:25
johnwlthis site is pretty cool..its all the x windows managers for linux: http://xwinman.org/04:25
Fr0d0the file interpreter is like 100 times faster04:25
pussfelleryou can turn alot of the eye candy off in xp04:25
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Fr0d0thats just fact04:25
hankoh right yeah, i've done all that04:26
tritiumLooks like the latest update to evolution forces the user to setup an email account, even if you just want to use it for calendaring and contacts.04:26
Fr0d0xp runs on the foundation of 2000 but uses a faster file interpreter04:26
hankanyone have a clue about how to install linux drivers?04:26
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pussfelleraltho, its the same thing that makes windows faster that makes it more vulnerable too04:26
CarlKnever tried... just sounded funny.  I was a deskview junky untill I wanted to run a web broser under win9504:26
hankAnd 2000 was based on NT no?04:26
johnwlmore or less04:27
rommeryea it was04:28
Fr0d0the file interpreter in xp is like 100 times faster than win 2000...but xp is loader with more crap04:28
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Fr0d0but a scaled down xp can boot completely in about 12 seconds04:29
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Blackice1963you got thst right04:29
Blackice1963lol04:29
hankserious! no networking I take it04:29
pussfelleryeah it boots pretty fast to the login screen04:30
Fr0d0my xp with networking boots in 17 seconds04:30
silversurferyou time it?04:30
hankThats rather quick. Mine must be cluttered with crap. Tough I suppose it must be around that.04:30
johnwlso you can access your spyware really quickly :)04:30
Fr0d0but...I still prefer linux, because the hackers are targeting xp04:30
hankindeed, this is part of my motivation for making a complete conversion04:31
hankBut I need my wireless to Work!!!04:31
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johnwlI ditched win2k completely..first to SUSE 9.2 (very good) then to Ubuntu (awesome)04:31
pussfellerit will be interesting to seew how well linux holds up as it gets into the hands of more and more clueless users like windows is04:31
Fr0d0but the security is becoming better for xp all the time, I use AVF virus prot with adaware se and I find it is very very stable04:32
hankAs long as it remains free!!04:32
johnwlI've installed Ubuntu for two barely capable users and they are doing pretty good04:32
mumakDoes the subversion package on ubuntu require sysadmin to write wrapper scripts to set the umask, the way debian does?04:32
hankYeah ubuntu would have to be the most simple yet. Apart form the crazy arse live distros04:32
pussfellerkubuntu? is that the kde based version04:32
johnwlhell, I'm barely capable :)04:32
silversurferi dont understand how people get spyware... i havent had one thing of spyware on my machine in over 2 years... are you seriously still using IE?04:32
johnwlpussfeller: yep04:33
Fr0d0if linux still continues with its damn distro wars, it will shoot itself in the foot, MS is comiing out with its next versions and linux will take a lump04:33
hankyou don't need ie to get spyware04:33
pussfelleri have seen so many windows machines utterly unusable die to spyware04:33
silversurferwhat are you using to get it?04:33
Riddellpussfeller: yes it is04:33
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hankI usually use firefox, or opera. Lately firefox and I got the nastiest of somethings. But I deserved it I was at a warez website04:34
pussfellermost of its not that horrible, its the CWS thats the worst04:34
johnwlyou could put a windows box in a safe, unplugged, no networking, and the spyware faries would still visit04:34
hankwhat's CWS?\04:34
hankyeah true04:34
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pussfellercool web search04:34
Fr0d0warez lol04:34
hankAhh right04:34
hankahah04:34
Fr0d0yep that will kill you04:34
silversurfertry using a host file that prevents the spycrap from even getting to you04:34
pussfelleri had a client, their teen had been using their brand new box for looking at porn04:35
johnwloh man04:35
hankWHat's strange is when you follow up these spam mails trying to sell you dolls and penis' or whatever for that matter. None of them work, You can't buy anything so who the hell makes them!!04:35
pussfellerthere were like 300 entries in hklm/currentversion run04:35
silversurferhttp://www.everythingisnt.com/hosts.html04:35
hankwhat's this?04:35
pussfellerthe start up in the reg04:35
silversurferthats a nice little hosts file that prevents a lot of spyware from getting to you04:36
Fr0d0umm, to be honest, if you get spyware in xp its just cuz you dont have a clue...I have reloaded linux because of faulty distros more than I ever did with xp04:36
johnwlyeah thats true but 90% of computer users dont, and may never, have a clue04:36
hankOh, well I guess I don't have a clue. What's your cluefull secret Frodo?04:36
pussfellerbut most windows users really dont have a clue04:36
pussfelleri got paid last week to show how to add an attachemnt to an email04:36
Fr0d0clueful secret is , turn off messenger04:36
hankhahah, that's beautifull.04:36
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Fr0d0use hijacker software04:37
hankhahaha, I don't use msnger. But that certainly is  amajor source04:37
silversurferhank, visit the site i posted, then add it to your hosts file04:37
pussfellermessenger doesnt add spyware04:37
hankinX?04:37
silversurferit will prevent a lot of crap from getting to you04:37
hankin XP?04:37
hankobviously04:37
ellsdoes anyone know how to setup samba to access my windows machine. I thought I had it hooked up and I am not sure how to connect04:37
Fr0d0use AVG....lol  man you dont have a clue...messenger is on in xp even if you dont use it lol LOL04:37
pussfellertheres 2 messengers04:38
pussfellerthe IM and the LAN system chat thingee04:38
hankawesome thanks. I'll install that04:38
Fr0d0you must turn messenger off in hidden settings04:38
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silversurferand dont run xp in admin mode04:38
hankyeah I have AVG. I find it very cumbersome and slow htough04:38
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Fr0d0lol...AVG is only 5 megs big04:38
hankyeah mssnger is completeyly gone, I did all of that stuff04:39
Fr0d0cumbersome?04:39
Fr0d0you must have dialup04:39
ellsdoes anyone know how to use samba to access windows04:39
hitriko-samahey, i just decided to move to linux to and wanna start with ubuntu, is there any way i can burn the iso to a dvd disk>04:39
pussfellerelis you have to share a folder on the windows machine and then mount the partition04:39
hankno cable. I mean while the program scans, its slow04:39
johnwlyes you can burn the iso to DVD04:39
pussfellerells, theres a bout a gazillion tutos on the net04:39
silversurferells:do you have sambaclient installed?04:39
ellspussfeller, can you walk me through how to set it up04:39
ellssilversurfer, yes04:39
ellsI am not sure what to do next04:40
pussfellersomebody else can probably show you better, i did it the cli way04:40
hankslow.04:40
ellspussfeller, cli way?04:40
silversurferells : open up nautilus and type smb://[nameofserver] 04:40
hankanyone know of any tutes for wireless networking setup04:40
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ellsokay04:40
pussfellerusing fstab and a cred file04:41
ellssilversurfer, is that the ip of the other machine04:41
silversurferells:it can be the IP or the name, stick to the IP though04:41
ellsokay and then it will prompt for the password then04:41
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silversurferells : in a perfect world it will04:42
pussfellerheh04:42
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ellsokay, I will giv it a shot04:43
Dr_Acemasterwhat's the letter to ahve text time stamped in 12hr time04:43
Dr_Acemasterrather than H for 24hr time04:43
ellssilversurfer, nothing04:44
silversurferhmm do you have all the samba stuff installed?04:44
ellsit says folder contents could not be displayed04:45
ellssilversurfer, I think so04:45
lunitikDr_Acemaster: you try a lowercase h?04:45
Dr_Acemasteryeah, it was the month04:45
Dr_Acemasterheh04:45
ellson the windows side, what needs to be done04:45
silversurferells: but it still tried to connect correct?  it found the server just wouldn't let you connect?04:45
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Dr_Acemasternm, found it, it's "l"04:46
lunitikDr_Acemaster: makes perfect sense  :/04:46
ellswell, it did not ask for a password04:46
Dr_Acemasterlmao04:46
Dr_Acemasterthere ya go04:46
silversurferells is your linux username the same as on windows?04:46
ellsyes04:46
silversurferhmm04:46
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ellscould it be my firewall on windows04:47
silversurfersame password?04:47
usualdoes 2.6.11 have compatible nvidia drivers in hoary yet?04:47
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silversurferells, ya check if that firewall is blocking traffic04:47
ellssilversurfer, I will check real fast04:48
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LiquidIce1337I don't know if anyone can answer this question but I have a amd64 laptop with a radeon 9700 mobility with ubuntu hoary installed.. now my problem is i performed 'sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx' and that worked out fine but im getting an error when I run glxinfo that "Xlib: extension "XFree-86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0". can anyone help me these ati drivers are driving me crazy04:50
ellsit does not appear to be blocking it04:50
ellsI can go in through remote desktop04:50
johnwlLiguidIce1337: way out of my league..sry04:50
silversurferLiquiedIce1337: silly question, did you reboot the machine?04:51
LiquidIce1337well not yet but I had the same problem last time I installed these drivers after a fresh install of hoary04:51
LiquidIce1337im rebooting now04:51
LiquidIce1337i'll let you know if anything changes though04:51
LiquidIce1337was wondering if i missed any commands before i restarted04:52
silversurferdid you make sure your card is using the right driver?04:52
LiquidIce1337how would I go about doing that? I am new to ubuntu04:52
LiquidIce1337i cna edit files i just need to know where they are located so I can type it in the terminal04:52
LiquidIce1337xorg.conf im assuming your talking about04:53
ellssilversurfer, it worked04:53
silversurferLiquid : I have been using ubuntu for 3 days, gentoo for 2 years... so i am not too experienced myself04:53
ellshow can I give myself access to more folders04:53
silversurferells : on the windows machine you have to share them04:54
ellsokay, i will check that out04:54
LiquidIce1337yea I am in the exact same boat gentoo for like 2 days.. couldn't get install to finish on stage 3 so i tried ubuntu because it's impossible to find a 64 bit distro that will work in conjunction with my mobility radeon 970004:54
johnwlLiguidIce1337: Did you see this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1322604:54
ellssilversurfer, where in windows, sorry04:55
johnwlnot sure if that will help04:55
ellsdont use windows for network too much04:55
silversurferells : hehe no worries, just open up windows explorer and right click on a folder you want to share, then you should see the share tab04:55
ellssilversurfer, thanks04:55
LiquidIce1337I can try it john thankyou04:56
LiquidIce1337as rebooting didn't help my situation04:56
silversurferLiquid04:56
LiquidIce1337stuck with mesa04:56
LiquidIce1337back to square 104:56
LiquidIce1337yes?04:56
silversurferin the config file, make sure your device driver is fglrx04:56
silversurfernot ati04:56
silversurferthats now i got my ati 9700 going04:56
silversurferbut i am not on an amd6404:57
johnwlthat complicates things a bit04:57
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silversurferhow so johnwl04:57
johnwljsut from what I'm reading..amd64/ati/linux not playing nicely04:58
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silversurferouch04:58
LiquidIce1337yeah unfortunately04:58
silversurferthat sucks04:58
LiquidIce1337I'll try the forum john reccomended04:58
LiquidIce1337thanks for pointing me in a better direction04:58
johnwlyeah its a few pages long so i didnt read it all04:58
LiquidIce1337hopefully I cna work some magic with this04:58
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silversurfergood luck Liquid04:58
johnwlseems to be good info in there04:59
LiquidIce1337thanks04:59
LiquidIce1337i'll be here often I can tell04:59
LiquidIce1337hah04:59
silversurferhehe04:59
johnwlnvidia seems to be way more on the ball with linux..hopefully ati will catch up04:59
ellssilversurfer, this works great.04:59
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ellsI am going to use this for school05:00
silversurferwhat's kind of funny is i have 3 days of debian / ubuntu experience and i am offering advice in the channel lol05:00
LiquidIce1337hmm im having a problem here05:00
silversurfersweet ells, glad you got it working05:00
LiquidIce1337how would i go about loggin in as root05:00
johnwl<-2 days :)05:00
ellssilversurfer, thanks man05:00
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LiquidIce1337i only ahve a username05:00
LiquidIce1337root has no password05:00
silversurferliquid, open up a terminal and su to it05:00
EndGameLiquidIce1337, sudo -s05:00
SiRrUsanyone here anything about a fix for the hoary refresh lag?05:00
silversurferor what EndGame said lol05:01
LiquidIce1337thanks05:01
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johnwlSiRrUs: not me05:01
SiRrUsjohnwl thanks05:01
silversurferis there a calendar program that lets me connect to my yahoo calendar?05:02
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johnwlLiquidIce1337: have you seen the HOWTO http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto05:03
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johnwli cant believe how good the starter guide, howtos, and other support are for such a new distro05:04
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silversurferjohnwl how old is ubuntu?05:05
SiRrUsoctober silversurfer05:05
SiRrUsi believe05:05
ggeeckocan anyone suggest a jpeg viewer05:05
johnwlwarty was released in october of last year05:06
CarlK2warty - how do I share a printer installed in cups?05:06
kerframilggeecko: gthumb05:06
johnwlDistroWatch Ubuntu: http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ubuntu05:06
geppy|Clerksggecko: gthumb05:06
silversurferhmm SiRrus, lemme check that out, thanks05:06
SiRrUscheck it out? :)05:07
silversurferooh, thought you were talking about the calendar lol05:07
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johnwlthe only thing i dont like about Ubuntu is the shirtless guy on the homepage lol05:08
SiRrUsnope warty 4.10 :) 2004 October05:08
ggeeckothx05:08
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silversurferah, well it's made gentoo disappear for me... and somehow extended my ipw2200 range outside of the house05:09
johnwlthat and my co-workers call me Warty Warthog now :(05:09
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SiRrUs:)05:09
Dr_willisHmm. :P05:10
johnwltime to apt-get install tacobell05:10
Dr_willisi just apt-got leftovers05:11
johnwllol05:11
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Dr_willisLo Mein - good even reheated the next day05:11
xedAhoyhoy everyone05:11
xedguess what I'm here for?05:11
johnwloh man i may have to order chinese now05:11
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johnwlyou've come to offer tech support to noobs?05:12
silversurferalright everyone, i am outta heeya... nighty05:12
johnwlcya05:12
xedjohnw1: only if.. only if..05:12
johnwllol05:12
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xedjohnwl: I am teh noob who the tech support helps. =(05:12
Dr_willisits sad when you watch 'Iron Chefs' while eating a Blogna Sandwich.. :P05:12
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johnwlyou are not alone xed05:12
xedI remember having this issue before, but now I can't remember how I resolved it.05:12
CarlKanyone know how to print a test page from a shell?05:12
Dr_willishmm.05:13
xedjohnw1: What happened was...when I put in the install CD.. the little screen comes up05:13
neighborleeyeah baby ubuntu is 6 away from going over mepis!!!! ( i'm so happy )05:13
xed"To boot press Enter"05:13
xedI press Enter05:13
neighborleeI LOVE UBUNTU05:13
xedAnd it does this whole loading of the whatnots.. and huzzah! I'm screwed!05:13
xedIt goes black..05:13
xedDarkness!05:13
CarlKDr_willis - did you know there is an Iron Chef movie?05:14
Dr_willisCarlK,  lol - havent seen THAT yet. :p05:14
CarlK"God of Cookery" I think05:14
xedNo? No one wants to help?05:14
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Dr_willisxed,  this is right after the install?05:14
CarlKDr_willis - it has plot and everything05:14
xederr. Dr_willis: I never get to the install part..05:14
johnwlxed: (im a newb too) but does it do it at the same spot each time?05:14
Dr_willisCarlK,  Egads!05:14
CarlKwell, the first 20 min... hanv't watched the end yet05:14
xedjohnw1: Yes, it just loads a bunch of text.. too fast...05:15
xedI have a widescreen.. that could be teh issue?05:15
Dr_willisxed,  Hmm.. thats odd..  its possible you got some really odd system.. or your cd-disk is messed up05:15
xednope05:15
Dr_willisthe installer is text based.05:15
xedDr_willis: I had it installed earlier05:15
Dr_willisshouldent matter.05:15
xedI remember I did.. or rather someone told me to do something05:15
xedinstead of pressing enter, I type in something else, and it worked.05:15
tgamaybe his framebuffer is confused05:15
johnwlxed: dunno i installed it on a friends widescreen with no issues tho05:15
xedOnly if I had remembered..05:15
Dr_willisyou isting warty, or hory? thers plenty of kernel boot options you can use.05:15
jsgotangcodoh05:15
xedI'm on a laptop..?05:15
Dr_willisnoapci, nopic,05:15
johnwlxed: so was he05:15
xedDr_willis: eh? me?05:16
Dr_willisare commn options05:16
xedtga: Something relating to the framebuffer.. I remember that..05:16
xedOr rather, I think it was..05:16
jsgotangcoohhh fb05:16
Dr_willisFramebuffer. - Hmm...05:16
jsgotangcoits a resolution thing05:16
xedWish I had remembered...05:16
tgathat's what used to happen to me on an old 13" monitor.. the fb would push it out of sync05:16
xedSo.. what do I do?05:16
xedAnd please don't say "Go kill yourself"05:16
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jsgotangcoand also dont say RTFM05:17
jsgotangco:)05:17
tgayou could try passing an option to the kernel to disable the fb05:17
tgavga=ask05:17
tgaor something05:17
xed...05:17
xedWhich.. means..?05:17
jsgotangcoits this a problem with the livecd?05:17
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xedjsgotangco: Negative.  I'm trying to install it.05:17
jsgotangcoohhh05:17
jsgotangcook05:17
tgadoes the installer use lilo or grub?05:18
xed...err..05:18
Dr_willisboot cd - is useing Grub i think isent it.05:18
johnwlim trying to remember what the install options are if you press f1 or f205:18
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xedI'm trying to remember who helped me before.05:18
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xedWas it cafuego..?05:18
xedHmm..05:18
xedwish I remembered..05:18
xedMy memory is crappy.05:19
xedNot my PC.. me.. my memory.. as in.. my brain..05:19
tgaget a pen and a notepad05:19
xedtga: Got it.05:19
xedNow to destroy life.05:19
kerframilxed: debian-installer/framebuffer=false05:19
kerframilperhaps05:19
xederr..05:19
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tgatry passing the kernel an option after the kernel image name05:20
kerframilsorry, if I'm late to the party but I thought there was some talk about disabling fb05:20
xedkerframil: I type that in at the screen where it says "Press enter to boot" or something?05:20
kerframilin which case, that option should do it05:20
kerframilxed: yes, as tga indicates05:20
xed"debian-installer/framebuffer=false"05:20
tgaor even <name of image> vga=ask05:20
xedI .. don't remember debian being in the solution..05:20
tgaI don't know what the image is called05:20
xedname of.. image?05:20
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kerframilit uses the debian installer so05:20
xedI .. recieved the cd's from a friend.. who got it in the mail.. =/05:20
kerframilvideo=vga16:off05:21
kerframilas an alternative05:21
tgahit tab and you should get a list of bootable images05:21
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xedWhat will vga=ask do?05:22
HrdwrBoBask you what vga mode you want05:22
xed...05:22
xedAnd how will I deteremine... which to choose?05:23
HrdwrBoByou can choose whatever you like05:23
xedSounds.. good05:23
xedBrb05:23
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xed_deskon desktop now05:24
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yoko-omowhat is the package that installs g++, and such?  developer-tools?05:25
johnwlUbuntu Packages Search: http://higgs.djpig.de/ubuntu/www/05:27
xedOkay, so none of the ideas suggested worked05:27
kerframilyoko-omo: I don't know what the meta-package is (assuming there is one) but you could install gcc and its "recommends"05:28
xedtabbig does not bring up the names of the images either =/05:28
xedSo.. any other suggestions?05:28
rommerUBis there a way to make the fonts look better on a laptop (on windows there was cleartype or something)05:29
xedEllo?05:29
johnwlyou can install windows truetype fonts05:29
kerframilyoko-omo: ah, try sudo apt-get install build-essential05:30
johnwlxed: sry no ideas05:30
johnwlxed: did you try searching the community forums?05:30
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jdubrommerUB: go into the font preferences dialogue, choose subpixel smoothing05:30
mruizhi guys!05:30
yoko-omokerframil, thanks05:30
yoko-omojust found it05:31
yoko-omo:)05:31
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rommerUBthnaks jdbu05:31
LevanderCan I get descriptions of packages not installed on my system via apt-get? Similar to how the dpkg -l command works.05:31
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timshow do I get rid of all the other bootup kernels in grub?05:32
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mebaran151tims05:32
xedhuzzaaaaah05:32
xedfixed it05:32
mebaran151if you reomve them05:32
mebaran151unistall them with synaptic or apt05:32
xedsolution was05:32
johnwlxed: how?05:32
xedin the manual05:32
xedjohnw1: I feel like a moron..05:32
mebaran151the update-grub script takes care of the rest05:32
kerframilxed: which was?05:32
timsthat sounds great05:32
xedjohnwl: "linux vga=771"05:32
mebaran151so just find the kernels you dont want05:32
mebaran151if you want to have the kernel available05:33
mebaran151but dont want to boot it05:33
mebaran151you have to manually edit it yourself05:33
johnwlxed: no i feel like a moron..i almost suggested that05:33
xedjohnwl: I had to type that in. =/05:33
regeya_guh.  is there some sort of wankery that holds the XF86Audio keys support together in GNOME and only GNOME?  'Coz when I try the keys when I'm running Window Maker, no worky.05:33
mebaran151I havent the slightest idea why05:33
xednow to complete the installation05:33
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xedThanks for teh help05:33
regeya_wait...I think I know.05:33
johnwlgood luck05:33
timswhat file do you edit.. grub.conf?05:33
mebaran151XF86Keys dont even work at all on my logitech keyboard05:33
mebaran151tims05:33
mebaran151you would edit05:33
kerframiltims: /boot/grub/menu.lst probably05:33
regeya_really.05:33
mebaran151/etc/boot/grub/menu.lst05:34
mebaran151but just uninstall the kernel05:34
mebaran151you probably dont have any use for an unbootable kernel05:34
regeya_before I was a ubuntu user, I had no trouble with XF86Keys with my logitech kbd05:34
mebaran151taking 50 mbs of hdd space05:34
mebaran151I never got XF86keys to work ever05:34
mebaran151I just got use to it05:34
mebaran151using plus and minus to change the volume isnt THAT hard05:34
regeya_well, having had it work just fine in other envs, you'll pardon me if I find that to be unacceptable ;-)  yeah, you're right, it's not a big deal, but heck, I know it can work.05:35
LevanderNo way to do something similar to a 'dpkg -l' for an uninstalled package?05:35
mebaran151regeya05:35
mebaran151how do you make it work05:35
rommerUBis mozilla firefox 1.0.1 available from apt-get?05:35
mebaran151does it automagically work05:35
timsso should I mark the old kernel for removal or complete removal?05:35
mebaran151removal will be just fine05:35
mebaran151complete removal purges the config05:35
mebaran151which is no big deal05:35
mebaran151as the kernel was probably left in its default config05:36
mebaran151whichever makes you fuzziest05:36
mebaran151regeya_, nothing is cooler than my INDESTRUCTIBLE keyboard05:36
timsok thanks.. before I do this.. is there a way of displaying which kerel I am running? to be sure?05:36
mebaran151uname -r05:37
mebaran151at the cli05:37
mebaran151but dpkg will warn you05:37
mebaran151if you try to delete a kernel that you are running05:37
mebaran151it will bellow05:37
regeya_mebaran151, I suppose you've tried to use a compatible keymap... :-}05:37
xedOkay05:37
xedI've run into yet another issue05:37
mebaran151regeya_, I get scared of keymaps05:37
monoxidewhat is the command to open the nautillus cd burning application?05:37
mebaran151they kill small children at night05:37
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mebaran151I am sure of it05:37
xedHow do I go about creating another partition... for Ubuntu while in the set up05:37
mebaran151open nautilus05:37
mebaran151and go to places05:37
xedI'm at the partition part in the set up. =/05:38
mebaran151and you will have a a place lCD DVD Creator05:38
mebaran151just drag and drop05:38
xedEllo?05:38
regeya_mebaran151, if you fire up gnome-control-center (I have the settings daemons running for nautilus's sake...why must nautilus have a daemon to pick the proper icon set...) and choosing the proper keymap from the proper control panel works fine05:38
rommerUBwhat is a good msn messenger client for linux?05:38
regeya_mebaran151, but I ended up asking in here first, instead of investigating, and for that I apologize. :-)05:38
jsgotangcoGAIM05:38
jsgotangcorommerUB: GAIM supports MSN05:39
xedEllooo?05:39
rommerUBoh ok05:39
monoxideCouldn't display burn:///05:39
xedAnyone here?05:39
johnwltheres also: http://amsn.sourceforge.net/05:39
xed...05:39
mebaran151haha05:39
jsgotangcoxed05:39
mebaran151I looked05:39
xedjsgotangco05:39
jsgotangcotheres a partition tool in during the setup05:39
mebaran151regeya_, damn logitech05:39
mebaran151does EVERYTHING have to begin with i05:40
regeya_heh05:40
mebaran151I forgot for what model keybd I have05:40
regeya_I thought that was strictly an apple ailment...heh05:40
monoxidemebaran151, Couldn't display burn:///05:40
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mebaran151hmmm05:40
xedjsgotangco: I have 2 paritions atm... one primary (windows) and one logical (for all teh stuff I use).. I want to create a partition within the logical one (since it is most of teh hdd).. I want to create a partition for Ubuntu within that, how do I go about doing that?05:41
mebaran151monoxide, I dont know then05:41
regeya_interesting...ubuntu window maker package doesn't have DND support built in.  must...fix...bad...package!05:41
mebaran151works for me05:41
jsgotangcoxed: where are you now on the setup05:41
xed"Parition disks"05:41
xedjsgotangco05:41
mebaran151are you sure it can figure out where your CDR is05:41
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mebaran151it might have lost it05:41
monoxidei have 2 cd drives if that makes a difference05:41
mebaran151regeya_, is it black05:42
jsgotangcoxed: i dont remember much, but I believe theres an advance option there05:42
mebaran151and has werid buttons on the side05:42
xed...05:42
regeya_nope, white with blue trim05:42
mebaran151like three of them05:42
mebaran151oh05:42
regeya_yeah05:42
mebaran151I have the black magic keyboard05:42
jsgotangcoxed: that allows you to create/edit partitions for your logical drive05:42
mebaran151indestructibly05:42
mebaran151namely I covered in celophane05:42
mebaran151so I shant ever fear my espresso again05:42
jsgotangcoi wish i had an addtional box by my side05:42
jsgotangcobut what i only have is my laptop :)05:42
regeya_they have several models that all use the same casing, but different colors and names...don't know if the internals are identical or not. :-/05:42
johnwladvanced partioning in Ubuntu needs some work05:42
mebaran151yeah05:42
mebaran151they should include like qtparted05:43
regeya_this keyboard lacks the "Apple" icon on the Alt keys05:43
jsgotangcoyeah05:43
mebaran151with embedded qtparted05:43
jsgotangcoactually the partitioning in ubuntu is quite freaky for n00bs05:43
mebaran151I mean embedded qt05:43
mebaran151nah05:43
xedjsgotangco: how do I go about creating?05:43
maccorinwhat is in the wine utils package?05:43
mebaran151it is just sort of crappy05:43
regeya_except the Logitech people have it dead wrong...iirc they have the Apple on the Window keys, and Command is mapped to Alt in OS X05:43
jsgotangcoxed: hmmm hold on05:43
mebaran151haha05:43
regeya_or the other way 'round, I always forget.  whatever, they did it wrong.05:44
mebaran151yeah05:44
monoxideanyone have any ideas why i cant burn a cd with nautillus? or another program i can try05:44
mebaran151I always wondered why whenever I try to do an alt gr on my mapped keyboard05:44
mebaran151it dies05:44
mebaran151as in05:44
johnwldid you install the dvdlibs?05:44
mebaran151it doesnt do altgr05:44
Dr_willisHmm. If i want to get the fundamental programs installed to let me do some lessoms on C++ programing.. is there a single 'package' that will get me all the 'needed' packages?05:44
johnwloh cd nm05:44
Dr_willisthats what they call a 'meta-package' isent it?05:44
mebaran151Dr_willis, try build-essential05:44
mebaran151it has all the basic libs for building your programs05:45
xedOkay.. so..05:45
Dr_williscool05:45
mebaran151gedit is fine for actually writing simple code, like vim but prettier05:45
Dr_willisi never wouild of guessed that name :P05:45
mebaran151haha05:45
mebaran151well not like vim05:45
mebaran151they both do syntax highlighting05:45
johnwlis there an apt-get install paris_hilton's_movies? j/k05:45
xedjsgotangco: You still there?05:45
monoxidejohnwl, package not found?05:45
EndGamei think there in portage05:45
johnwlheh05:46
EndGameyet another reason to switch05:46
xed...05:46
jsgotangcoxed: hold on im getting a box here to help you out05:46
EndGamephrack is in portage05:46
xedAh, alright js05:46
xedjsgotangco*05:46
EndGameyou can literaly emerge phrack, and get every issue ever05:46
Dr_willisall rigthy.. the prog i am trying to compile almost worked.. :P05:46
LiquidIce1337got another question for you guys05:46
mebaran151what error did you get05:47
Dr_willisbin/ld: cannot find -lXmu  -- now i just got to figure out what  libXmu is :) thats would be a good guessas to the package name to search for?05:47
mebaran151some gui programs require glade05:47
mebaran151yeah05:47
LiquidIce1337this forum the first post says to convert the rpm to deb using alien.. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=13226 i understand what they mean but they are talking about downloading the ati driver from the ati website for xorg and just converting that one?05:47
mebaran151what kind of proggie is this05:47
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monoxidei keep getting "burn:/// not a valid location" from nautilus. any ideas anyone?05:48
mebaran151LiquidIce1337, they now include the ati driver in restricted moduels05:48
mebaran151monoxide, it doesnt know you have a burner05:48
iotc247amaranth you there?05:48
mebaran151it thinks you have two cdroms05:48
LiquidIce1337mebaren151: which means (sorry im new)05:48
timswhat does this mean? E: zope-cmfcore1.4:  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 105:48
timsE: zope-cmftopic1.4:  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured05:48
mebaran151LiquidIce1337, no problem05:48
mebaran151just do this05:48
mebaran151sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules05:48
monoxidemebaran151, well how do i tell it that i have one then?05:49
mebaran151put a CD in that drive05:49
xedMaybe I should just pop in my Windows XP CD, create a partition for Ubuntu and restart installation for Ubuntu?05:49
mebaran151let us first check that it can read05:49
Dr_willistrying to compile this game called 'Transcend'05:49
monoxidei have05:49
mebaran151ah05:49
Dr_willismentioned in a Linux Mag. :p05:49
mebaran151probably a sound lib05:49
mebaran151did ./configure go ok05:49
johnwlxed: set your coffee on your XP CD and get to work on Ubuntu :)05:49
monoxideit can read a cd on that drive05:49
mebaran151ok05:49
xedjohnwl: But I can't figure out how to create ze partition!05:50
EndGamemkfs.ze05:50
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mebaran151xed05:50
EndGamemkfs.pot_smoking_hippies05:50
xedmebaran15105:50
johnwlxed: yeah its a mess..did you consider just intalling witht he default and playing with partions after the install?05:50
mebaran151if you have the bandwidth05:50
jsgotangcohe wants to dual boot05:51
johnwlscuse my typos05:51
mebaran151dll www.sysresccd.org05:51
johnwlahh nm05:51
LiquidIce1337hmm "E: couldn't find package linux-restricted-modules05:51
xed...what is that?05:51
mebaran151and repartition with with the iso on it05:51
mebaran151it is a another linux livecd05:51
xed=/ i have an easier way =/05:51
regeya_hm...XDND support in WMaker marked as experimental...hm...*shrug* lessee what happens! :-)05:51
mebaran151xed05:51
xedBut I'd have to cancel the set up right now =(05:51
mebaran151what is your easier way05:51
xedwhat i Just said05:51
xedPop in my Windows XP CD, create a partition for Ubuntu and restart installation for Ubuntu?05:51
mebaran151winxp wont resize a partition05:51
mebaran151so you would have to can windows05:51
mebaran151which isnt that bad05:51
jsgotangcoyeah05:51
mebaran151but you might not want to do that05:51
xedmebaran151: Not necessarily05:52
Dr_willismebaran151,  got it.. played about 2 min.. and am now Very dizzy. :P lol05:52
mebaran151haha05:52
mebaran151cool05:52
xedI could create a second partition of say 8GB, .. say.. NTFS or whatever05:52
xedLoad up set up again..05:52
mebaran151nah05:52
mebaran151see05:52
xedand then .. just erease that partition created05:52
xederase*05:52
mebaran151the WInXP default is to eat your entire harddisk05:52
Dr_willismebaran151,  picure asteroids in fancy colors.. but the map 'spins' you dont turn. the world does..05:52
Dr_willismebaran151,  and it zooms in/out as your speed changes..05:52
xedmebaran151: No.. it also has the ability to create a partition. =05:52
xed=\05:52
mebaran151so to make a new partition you have to delete the first partition05:52
jsgotangcoit can05:52
mebaran151no it will create it05:52
xedThats how I partitioned my HDD...05:53
jsgotangcoyou go to disk management05:53
mebaran151but to create it it has to go destroy it05:53
jsgotangcoyou dont have to format it05:53
jsgotangcoright05:53
mebaran151I am not creating a partition05:53
xedIt doesn't have to destroy windows. =\05:53
mebaran151I am trying to resize it05:53
mebaran151if you go to the disk manager in windows05:53
mebaran151you can only resize dynamic arrays05:53
xedmebaran151: I see what you're saying...I think..05:53
mebaran151yeah05:53
mebaran151see05:53
mebaran151let me put it another way05:53
mebaran151Windows owns your entire harddisk05:53
xedHmm.. so how do I go about doing it while in the set up..(Ubuntu) at the "Partition Disks" part..05:54
mebaran151so let us say you have a 10 gb disk05:54
goldfish_u have to erase the windows partition05:54
mebaran151windows has the entire 10gb05:54
goldfish_if u do it that way05:54
johnwlxed: a thread on installing for xp/ubuntu dual boot: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1628705:54
mebaran151if you want to make a second partition you dont have anymore room05:54
mebaran151to make that second partition05:54
xedI have to destroy a partition? =(05:54
mebaran151yeah05:54
mebaran151so that we have some room to make a new partition05:55
rommerUBhow can i install mozilla-firefox 1.0.105:55
mebaran151rommerUB, do you really need it?05:55
rommerUByes05:55
mebaran151I dont think they have a pkg yet05:55
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jsgotangcotheres no backport yet right05:55
mebaran151so you are going to have use the mozilla installer05:55
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mebaran151and circumvent pkg management05:55
Jeezishello05:55
rommerUByea ok thanks05:55
mebaran151which is just rather annoying05:55
Jeeziswhat is the kernel version for 5.10?05:56
jsgotangcoid stick with the "current" backport05:56
xedmebaran151: So my point was valid..05:56
xedwhat if I created a 3rd empty partition.. say.. NTFS.. with Windows XP..05:56
Jeeziswhat is the kernel version for warty 5.10?05:56
xedAnd then destroyed it when in the Ubuntu set up.. and use it for Ubuntu =/05:56
DeviantI Have my wireless setup , everything seems to be set correctly but im unable to connect to my router to get an IP ! dhcpdiscover can't get it.05:57
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LiquidIce1337hmm mebaran i preformed what you said but not luck "E: couldn't find package linux-restricted-modules"05:57
goldfish_Deviant: tried picking a manual ip?05:57
Deviantyes05:57
goldfish_k05:58
Jeeziscan anyone hear me?05:58
Deviantim stumped on this one.05:58
johnwlJeezis: yes. no idea. did you try the ubuntu web site?05:58
EndGamei need to add g++ to my PATH05:59
Jeezisjohnwl: looking right now05:59
EndGamei cant compile pengAOL05:59
johnwlwarty 5.1 or warty 4.1?05:59
Jeezisi'm trying to get x to run on a sager 9860-s05:59
monoxideJeezis, no. your talking to yourself05:59
johnwlJezzis: Try distro watch: http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ubuntu06:00
ultrafunkDr_willis: installing x-window-system-dev (warty, hoary should be similar) would get you the includes you need06:00
monoxideJeezis, whatever version you install?06:00
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mebaran151I want to play with mono06:00
mebaran151anyone know the repo for all those pkgs06:00
LiquidIce1337can someone tell me why I get the error "E: couldn't find package linux-restricted-modules" when i do sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules06:00
EndGameanyone?06:00
EndGameplease help06:00
regeya_kiss an infected person06:00
johnwlLiquidIce1337: you may need extra repositories (not sure): http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories06:00
mebaran151oh06:01
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mebaran151LiquidIce1337, that might not be the pkg name06:01
Jeezisi installed warty v5.1006:01
mebaran151go to synaptic06:01
LiquidIce1337thanksyou john06:01
xedWhy does I have to go back to windows setup =(06:01
mebaran151gksudo synatpic06:01
mebaran151xed why are you going to a windows set up06:01
mebaran151you might try insert06:01
johnwlis there a warty 5.1?06:01
crimsunno.06:01
mebaran151johnwl, I dont think so06:01
mebaran151hi crimsun06:01
xedmebaran151: Going to create a dummy NTFS partition, and then go back to set up for Ubuntu and destroy that partion, and use it for UBuntu06:01
mebaran151you willing to lose windows06:02
mebaran151I gurantee06:02
mebaran151if you rely on the windows tools06:02
mebaran151windows might just be dead upon next reboot06:02
xedmebaran151: Yeah, but I want to use Windows for gaming. =|06:02
mebaran151then you are going to need to use a livecd06:02
crimsunit will be 5.04 when it releases06:02
mebaran151take my word for it06:02
Jeezisoops06:02
mebaran151windows wont resize itself06:02
xedmebaran151: Even so, I have seperated Windows from the files I need..onto a different partition06:02
Jeezisyes i installed warty 5.0406:02
mebaran151xed, how did you do that?06:03
mebaran151you have a spare partition lying around06:03
farruinnjohnwl: 5.04 for April 200506:03
johnwlthx06:03
xedWhen originally installing Windows, I created a second partition  (NTFS) and now keep all important files onto that..06:03
mebaran151oh06:03
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mebaran151why not just move those files temporarily to your main partition06:03
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mebaran151use that partition06:03
arbeckcan someone help me with cdrecord?06:04
mebaran151and later make a new windows partition for those files when you have a good linux system up06:04
johnwlxed: whatever you do i suggest you backup key data first06:04
mebaran151arbeck, try graveman06:04
xedjohnw1: I think I just might have to now.. =(06:04
mebaran151it is a good front end06:04
xedDarkness =(06:04
mebaran151backing up is a pain06:04
Jento00001whats the difference between ubuntu and debian?06:04
mebaran151ubuntu takes a debian base06:04
mebaran151and makes it just more cohesive06:05
mebaran151using development Gnome pkgs06:05
mebaran151also06:05
mebaran151KDE lovers must go elsewhere06:05
monoxideubuntu = debian + extras?06:05
mebaran151basically06:05
Jeeziswell shit, i downloaded the most recent warty verson i guess06:05
mebaran151yeah06:05
mebaran151warty is the stable06:05
mebaran151hoary isnt so bad anymore06:05
arbeckmebaran151: well, gnomebaker, nautilus, and cdrecord all won't work... cdrdao does... i've written a python script to take care of audio cd's but data is a bit more challenging06:05
EndGamehow do i disable hotplugging on boot06:05
Jento00001Jeezis: i downloaded it over night, is the installation hard?06:05
johnwlnot for most06:06
mebaran151arbeck, if you wrote a python script to write audio cds06:06
mebaran151you are a step ahead of me06:06
Jeezisi installed it just fine06:06
Jeezisbut im on a laptop06:06
XenguyJento00001: Ubu is based on Debian unstable, makes that stable, adds a GNOME desktop, chooses sane default applications, and tries to do that every 6 months on schedule :-)06:06
Jeezisand now x wont work06:06
Jento00001Johnw1: what kind of GUI does ubuntu use?06:06
johnwlOS installations are always a crapshoot but I've installed it on 4 different boxes without an issue06:06
Jeezishad the same problem with rh906:06
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mebaran151how did you do it by python script06:06
johnwlJento: GNOME06:06
Jento00001Xenguy06:06
Jento00001hmm ok06:06
mebaran151I would like to see that06:06
mebaran151going around cdrecord06:06
mebaran151if you would06:06
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Jento00001thats not bad i guess ill burn it to a cd, i ordered 10 cds to give out to friends06:07
XenguyJento00001: me too :-)06:07
arbeckmebaran151: simple... just detect the file, convert to track#.wav, add to a .toc file, then call cdrdao with that .toc06:07
johnwli ordered 3006:07
johnwlive already installed it for a few folks06:07
XenguyJento00001: I think it is quite impressive so far (and I expect Hoary will be better still)06:07
Jento00001i ordered yesterday will they give me the new one thats coming out in 4 6 weeks or the old one?06:07
mebaran151arbeck06:07
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mebaran151neato06:08
mebaran151I didnt realize cd audio was straight wave06:08
mebaran151I thought it would be special06:08
johnwli still havent gotten the ones i orded 2 weeks ago..my guess is we'll be getting the new ones06:08
mebaran151arbeck, maybe just reinstall cdrecord06:08
mebaran151like purge it and reinstall06:08
mebaran151what error does it give06:08
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Jento00001johnw1: guess they just halted the burning until the new one06:08
Jento00001is there any screenshots of it?06:08
arbeckmebaran151: i could whip up something similar for iso images, but i'm unsure of how to handle burning regular data to cd... since nautilus, cdrecord and gnomebaker all don't work i figure there is something wrong somewhere in my setup that is effecting all of them06:09
johnwlI don't think look and feel will change much at all06:09
mebaran151ywah06:09
mebaran151yeah06:09
Jeeziswell, apparently i'm using warty warthog 4.1006:09
mebaran151it is interesting cdrao works06:09
mebaran151usually that is what breaks for me06:09
Jento00001john: can anyone send me screen shots of there ubuntu? :)06:09
Jeezisso does anyone know the kernel version for warty 4.10?06:09
mebaran1512.6.8 I think06:10
mebaran151it is a 2.6 kernel06:10
johnwlUbuntu Screenshots: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/screenshots/06:10
XenguyJento00001: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/screenshots/06:10
Xenguyhah06:10
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Jento00001thanx06:11
johnwlof course the nice thing about linux is that anyone can create any desktop they want..regardless of distro06:11
johnwlbut those will show you the base install06:11
johnwland GNOME 2.806:11
Jento00001all distros look all the same to me :S06:11
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johnwlstrange thing is i havent tweaked my look and feel at all...and i dont even like brown06:12
Dr_willisneat game i  got working --->  http://transcend.sourceforge.net/   but now i am SOOOO dizzy...06:12
arbeckJento00001: well, as long as you are running either kde or gnome :P06:12
Jeezisdoes anyone have any words of wisdom for how to set up x to run on a sager 9860?06:12
Jento00001ubuntu on kde looks not bad06:12
Jeeziseven if its just default configuration06:13
Jeezisi keep getting the error "no screens detected"06:13
timsmeb: yeah it's 2.6.8-- those were what I was getting rid of earlier.. (I'm on hoary)06:13
xedUbuntu uses Linux Ext3, yes?06:13
Jento00001tims: how did you get hoary, did come out yet06:13
Jeezisyes06:13
thoreauputicJeezis: is it actually "no screens found" ?06:13
johnwlJeezis: http://notebookforums.com/showthread.php?s=e5ce6dbde93ab585f9b1abf843842892&t=5062406:14
Dr_willisJeezis,  that an nvidia right? i got a 680006:14
xedJeezis: Are you talking to me.. or Jento00001?06:14
Jeezisno, its an ati x80006:14
Jeezisanyone in general :p06:14
Dr_willisati - ugh. :P06:14
timshttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/hoary/array-6/06:14
Dr_willisthat one of the new pciexpress cards?06:14
xedJeezis: Ubuntu uses ext3 yes?06:14
arbeckthoreauputic: hey, I never did figure out how to get my refresh rate changed06:14
Jeezisyes, i heard that ati is a bastard06:14
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Jento00001Jeezis: where is it!? omg i download warty for no reason06:15
Jeezisi have warty 4.10, sorry for the confusion Jento06:15
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thoreauputicJeezis: the debian solution for "no screens found" is  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xfree86   (and say "no" to the framebuffer question)06:15
Jento00001oh :(>> lol06:15
Jeezisthanks thoreauputic06:15
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timsjent look at my post above06:16
Jeezisi'll boot into ubuntu and get on in irssi if i have any problems06:16
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timskeep in mind hoary is still "unstable" but I've found it works better for me06:16
johnwlok im off to apt-get install cheeseburger06:16
Jento00001lol06:17
johnwland fries06:17
Jento00001im going to burn warty06:17
Amaranthdid someone say my name?06:17
goldfish_MY NAME06:17
goldfish_maybe06:17
arbeckanyone know how to change XF86Config-4 for a new monitor?06:18
timsjent: if you install warty, it's easy to update to hoary later on06:18
Jento00001tims: how?06:18
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timshoary upgrade from warty: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-6473.html06:19
thoreauputicarbeck: if you have a knoppix disc or other live cd thet "works" with it, copy the config over from that06:19
arbeckthoreauputic: why didn't i think of that... you're a mother fucking genius!06:20
thoreauputicarbeck: hmm... not really a genius at mother fucking, no06:20
thoreauputic;)06:20
Jento00001when is hoary coming?06:20
timsprobably a month or so06:21
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maccorinwtf?06:22
maccorini installed crossover office, and now all my apps are missing from the gnome menu06:22
maccorinarrrg06:22
jsgotangcogimme a dime wherever i see the words wtf and rtfm06:22
johnwlwhen are gentle gorilla and wacky walrus coming out? sry off to get food...06:22
Dr_willisWhen's "Bloated bassethound" due?06:23
johnwlsomebody should start a name thread on the boards06:23
arbeckthoreauputic: of course this means i have to reboot...06:23
thoreauputicarbeck: well, yes it does06:23
jsgotangcohow about the picky platypus06:23
arbeckJento00001: hoary is out... it's just not official yet06:23
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Torakheyas. i installed ubuntu off the cover cd of linux user, but all the dev libs don't seem to be installed and/or not on the cd. does this sound normal?06:24
maccorinanyone know how i can get my menu's back in gnome?06:25
thoreauputicwasn't Bloated Bassethound" the secret code name for windows XP ?06:25
jsgotangcobut then you forgot the Ubuntu naming pattern06:25
thoreauputicmaccorin:  killall gnome-panel sometimes works06:25
jsgotangcothere's always the word "hog"06:25
Dr_willisthat was "Lepperous Lemming"06:25
Dr_willis:P06:25
thoreauputichaha06:26
jsgotangcoGrumpy Groundhog06:26
jsgotangcoWarty Warthog06:26
maccorinthoreauputic, k06:26
jsgotangcoHoary Hedgehog06:26
johnwlOprah Winfrey..wait06:26
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maccorinthoreauputic: worked, ty06:27
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Jeezishello all06:27
thoreauputicmaccorin: np06:27
timsok just one question: What's up with the brown anyway?06:27
Jeezisi just tried to start x and i got this fatal error :no screens found06:27
thoreauputicmaccorin: shouldn't really be necessary though - gnome is a bit frail06:27
Jeezisi tried X -configure as root and it says that configuration failed06:27
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Jeezisany words of wisdom?06:28
crimsunyou should be using ,,sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86''06:28
maccorinthoreauputic: yea, i was just worried that it had erased my config files06:28
thoreauputicJeezis: fif you run the command i gave you exactly as written?06:28
maccorincrossover i mean06:28
Nekohayohi, I'd like to be able to manually edit the mouse's speed. Any idea where the conf resides? The GUI seems bugged, can't get it off the slow side06:28
maccorincause it's not in apt06:28
Jeezisi also tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xfree8606:28
Jeezisit said the package wasnt installed06:29
crimsunNekohayo: look at xset(1x)06:29
thoreauputicJeezis: umm06:29
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thoreauputicJeezis: not possible on warty06:29
Jeezisi didnt think so either06:29
thoreauputicJeezis: you must have xserver-xfree8606:29
Jeezisi'll brb let me make sure06:29
Nekohayocrimsun, is this a file or a command? thanks for the quick reply06:29
thoreauputicJeezis: what does apt-cache policy xserver-xfree86 have to say on the subject?06:30
crimsunNekohayo: man xset06:30
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Burgundaviaanybody else having issues with cupsys-driver-gimpprint?06:31
panickedthumbHey, I'm trying to install KDE 3.4 using Konstruct. I know this isn't supported, but I can't compile part of it because I get this error: /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.a(glxcmds.o)(.text+0x2eea): In function `glXGetMscRateOML':: undefined reference to `XF86VidModeQueryVersion'06:31
Nekohayocrimsun, thanks06:31
panickedthumbI think it may be related to the version of libGL.a that installs with hoary06:31
Jeezisyup, it said that xserver-xfree86 is not installed06:31
XposerXany good wallpaper packages you guys know about?06:31
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thoreauputicJeezis: did you do an "expert" or "custom" install?06:32
danielspanickedthumb: yeah, you need to link with -lXxf86vm.  i need to fix that one.06:32
Jeezisi dont believe so06:32
Jeezisit tries to start x every time i reboot and it just messes up06:32
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thoreauputicwell, try sudo apt-get install xserver-xfree86 and see what happens06:33
panickedthumbdaniels, ooh ooh tell me how ;)06:33
panickedthumbI haven't linked in ages, I've forgotten. hehe06:33
drmoddingsomebody help please i install ubuntu on a pc and when im entry at gdm i hear a bump bump loop sound and the gnome get's frezee and i can't begin my sesion06:33
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danielspanickedthumb: well, the proper fix involves patching xorg's Makefiles; the hacky fix would involve editing the Makefile.am of the library you're trying to link and putting -lXxf86vm in the _LDADD section06:33
Jeezisok, thanks thorea06:33
Jeezisbrb06:33
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panickedthumbdaniels: so I need to recompile libGL.so then?06:34
danielspanickedthumb: well, to fix it properly :)06:34
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Jeezisok, it says that the package is a virtual package provided by xserver-xorg06:35
xedOkay so I'm getting rid of windows06:36
Jeezisand that i need to explicitly select one to install06:36
thoreauputicJeezis: umm - are you on warty or hoary?  cat /etc/issue to find out06:36
Jeezistype "cat /etc/issue" correct?06:36
timsxposer: I'm enjoying my march ubuntu wallpaper :)06:36
panickedthumbdaniels: OK  to fix it un-properly, how would I do that? I'm not sure what library I'm trying to link here.06:37
jdubthoreauputic: (/etc/lsb-release is good too)06:37
thoreauputicJeezis: correct06:37
Jeezisok06:37
Jeeziswill do06:37
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thoreauputicjdub: ah - thanks :)06:37
CodyCanyone using Hoary that has done a d-i preseed?06:37
F-Lelowhat is the difference of hoary to the other?!06:37
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Jeezisok, i have hoary hedgehog v5.0406:38
panickedthumbdaniels: I'll try to catch you later, I'm off to bed. Night!06:38
thoreauputicJeezis: OK in that case06:38
xedJeezis: Do you hate pagans?06:38
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Jeezisxed: i love pagans06:39
Jeezisi'm an agnostic myself ;)06:39
thoreauputicJeezis: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg06:39
thoreauputicand say NO to the framebuffer question06:39
Jeeziswill do thoreauputic06:39
Jeezisbrb06:39
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xedJeezis: I thought you would've hated pagans...06:40
xedYou know.. gun them down with your M4 and whatnot..06:41
xedGuess not, huh?06:41
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Nekohayocuriosity thing, is it a gnome 2.9 feature that it has no icons in the gnome menu?06:41
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Jento00001did hoary come out yet/06:42
NekohayoJento00001, I'm on hoary, but it's not official yet06:42
crimsunJento00001: no06:42
NekohayoJento00001, 5.04 is the version number, so 2005 0406:42
danielspanickedthumb: night, sorry I couldn't be of more help -- will try to fix it soon06:43
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Jeeziswell, i thought i was getting somewhere06:46
nix000is there a command to disable a certain service in /etc/init.d ?06:46
tganix000: update-rc.d06:46
Jeezisi went through the whole configure sequence and went off to start x06:46
rommerUBcan anyone reccommend a theme for gnome06:46
Jeezisaaaaaaaaand i got the same error "fatal error: no screens found"06:47
tganix000: update-rc.d -f certain_service remove06:47
Jeezisi'm on a laptop if that makes any difference06:47
Jeezisthorea?06:47
thoreauputicJeezis: at this point you need to  look in /var/log/XFree86.0.log and try to figure out what's happening06:48
Jeezisok06:48
nix000tga:  thank you06:48
tganix000: np06:48
thoreauputicbut it ain't looking good06:48
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thoreauputicJeezis: you said no to the framebuffer?06:49
Jeezisyes, i said no to the frambuffer06:49
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thoreauputicJeezis: and accepted all the other defaults?06:49
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Jeezisyes, except for a few06:49
arbeckthoreauputic: you are a mother fucking genius :P06:49
thoreauputicor did you mess with other stuff..?06:49
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thoreauputicarbeck: it worked?06:50
Jeezisi didnt really mess with anything except which video modes it could run in06:50
Jeezisand the amount of video memory06:50
thoreauputicJeezis: hmm06:50
Jeezis256000 kb is 256 mb correct?06:50
thoreauputicwell, look at the log, antway06:50
thoreauputic*anyway06:51
Jeezisok06:51
Jeezisbrb06:51
Jeeziswhat was the log address?06:51
thoreauputic /var/log/XFree86.0.log06:51
Jeezisthanks06:51
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arbeckthoreauputic: yep... i took the monitor section out of my xf86config-4 after booting into knoppix and pasted it into my ubuntu and now we're all kosher06:53
tgaX -configure Just Works for me06:53
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thoreauputictga: lucky you ;-)06:54
thoreauputicgotta go - back later06:54
tgaI'll call myself lucky when I get acceleration working on this Radeon 320M06:54
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arbecki even got gnomebaker working again... now i just need nautilus to work06:55
arbeckand my usb hd to work...06:56
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Jeezisok, i think i found the problem06:57
Frodolol I downloaded "kubuntu" and got gnome only...06:57
Jeezisfirst of all, the log file was Xorg.0.log06:57
Jeezisbut, i think it cant detect my video card06:57
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Jeezisi read through the log file and everything is going fine until it trys to find the driver for my X80006:58
erikhey, I'm about to buy an Apple laptop.  ibook or powerbook, for ubuntu?06:58
Jeezisapparently there isnt one, so it goes "not found" then i get the "fatal error: no screens found"06:58
erikis there any reason the ATi or nvidia cards are preferred?06:58
FrodoCan anyone explain why kde is not in the supposedly kde branch of ubuntu?  I downloaded it right from the link at the top of this page06:59
Jeezisnvidia are easier06:59
arbeckerik: i think the ibook's are kind of cheap feeling... but the powerbooks are expensive...06:59
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arbeckerik: of course i'm buying a mac mini so what do i know06:59
erikarbeck: the pbook isn't more expensive once you factor in the ram and hdd and cpu upgrade, for the 12"06:59
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Jeezisthorea?06:59
erikJeezis: there isn't accelerated 3d nvidia driver support on ppc, is there?06:59
Jeezishmm, well i dont know about macs...there is a driver for pc hardware07:00
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Jeezisi cant get ubuntu to recognize my x800 on my laptop07:00
arbeckerik: i'm sure there is a driver... check out yellow dog linux and see what they say07:00
mdzFrodo: there are four Kubuntu CD images available at present; which one did you try?07:01
arbeckerik: linus runs a mac, so i imagine there's some support07:01
Jeezisthoreaputic you still here?07:01
erikheh07:01
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Jeezisok, any veteran in here that knows how to get ubuntu to recognize my ATI X800?07:02
Frodomdz: the first on the list...07:02
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mdzFrodo: filename?07:03
jdubmdz: (erk, thanks)07:03
Jeezisok, any veteran in here that knows how to get ubuntu to recognize my ATI X800?07:04
Frodohttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily/20050303.1/hoary-install-i386.iso07:04
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Jeezisor at least let me boot into Xorg with no 3d acceleration and stuff07:04
arbeckJeezis: have you tried any other distro's? knoppix, etc?07:04
Frodoand all it is is gnome07:04
Jeezisi have tried mandrake 10.0 and 10.1, and Debian Sarge07:05
Jeezisand now ubuntu07:05
mdzFrodo: that image definitely has KDE on it, and not GNOME07:05
Jeezisdoes knoppix have X800 support?07:05
mdzFrodo: check the md5sum and make sure you have the file that you expect to have07:05
arbeckJeezis: I'd try the knoppix live cd and see if it works... are you using hoary or warty?07:06
Jeezishoary 5.0407:06
Jeezisbut the live cd isnt a permanent installation is it?07:06
arbeckJeezis: it can be made into one07:07
Jeezisok07:07
Jeeziswell, i'll go download it07:07
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Jento00001burning ...07:08
Jento00001how long and how hard will the installation be?>07:09
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tga|<---->| this long07:10
Jento00001anyone here?07:10
Jento00001lol07:10
OrangeSliceit will take 10 minutes, if you know what you're doing07:10
OrangeSlice:p07:10
Jento00001what if your a newb?07:10
rommerUBthe installation is very easy07:10
rommerUBim a newb07:10
tgait will take about 5 if you don't07:10
OrangeSliceor 6 hours if you screw something up and have to redo it many times07:10
OrangeSlicebwaha07:10
tgabefore you fsck up your machine that is07:10
Jento00001-_07:10
rommerUBi had windows xp on one partition07:11
Jento00001^_-07:11
rommerUBand it installed perfectly07:11
Jento00001ok07:11
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rommerUBwith the grub dual boot loader fing07:11
Jento00001do you use fdisk for partitioning07:11
OrangeSlicehehe, no, I had almost no experience when I first installed ubuntu and it was easy07:11
Jento00001wow07:11
XenguyJento00001: cfdisk is an alternative07:11
tgaJento00001: only if you're a masochist07:12
Jento00001is there a GUI looking partitioning?07:12
XenguyJento00001: perhaps in the future07:12
Myrttisort of07:12
johnwlanybody want gmail invites?07:12
tgacfdisk and parted have text based interfaces07:12
arbeckJento00001: QTparted07:12
Xenguyjohnwl: not me07:12
Myrttijohnwl: would you like to get my 50?07:12
johnwllol07:12
tgaarbeck: yeah, you can run it through aalib07:12
rommerUBwith xmms how can i access a smb network share?07:13
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rattboihow do I find the amount of free space on my hd?07:13
Myrttino, seriously, try gmail invite spooler07:13
Xenguyrattboi: df -h07:13
tgarommerUB: you mount samba shares on directories07:13
tgarommerUB: after that they're like a local filesystem07:13
rommerUBok07:13
Xenguyrattboi: df = disk free07:13
rommerUBi thought i would have to do that07:13
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tgasmbmount //foo/bar /mnt/foobar -o umask=007:14
tgaor something07:14
Jento00001-h stands for?07:14
Myrttino, better yet, the best solution is not to give any of the invites07:14
tgaJento00001: -human07:14
XenguyJento00001: 'human-readable'  ;-)07:14
Myrttithe more you give away, the more they give you07:14
tgaJento00001: try it without the -h and see if you like it07:14
Jento00001lol07:14
rommerUBtga: how would i mount a share with samba?07:14
Jento00001my comps so slow can linux hold a 300 MHZ 360 RAM?07:15
tgaJento00001: yes07:15
XenguyJento00001: definitely07:15
goldfish_lol07:15
goldfish_loads07:15
Jento00001Xenguy: :P07:15
tgarommerUB: with smbmount, see above07:15
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johnwlyou might want to run a slimmed down gui but yeah07:16
Jento00001whats a powerful thing you can do on linux?07:16
johnwlrun amazon.com or google?07:16
tgaJento00001: watch pr0n07:16
Jento00001tga::P07:16
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johnwlgoogle runs redhat07:16
XenguyJento00001: that is a question from a blind man to a 1-eyed man :-)07:16
Jento00001tga: your a pervert07:16
rommerUBok07:16
tgaJento00001: yeah, I have a penguin fetish07:17
Xenguyheh07:17
johnwlthe top supercomputers in the world are linux..top 2 or 307:17
Jento00001tga: what with the screen?07:17
Jento000011 windows?07:17
Xenguy?07:17
rommerUBsmbmount command not found?07:17
Jento00001im going to install ubuntu now...07:18
goldfish_Google doesnt run redhat.07:18
Jento00001how much room does ubuntu take?07:18
Jento00001if u make a full installation07:18
johnwlgoogle+red hat: http://www.webpronews.com/news/ebusinessnews/wpn-45-20050303GoogleOffersInsideLookAtOperations.html07:19
XenguyJento00001: that is answered on the web site IIRC07:19
johnwlso youre willing to contradict one of googles chief architects?07:19
out_of_focushas anybody here installed Ubuntu on a PPC?07:19
Fr0d0lol that plain sucks...the way the top of this room wrote the url for kubuntu is ambiguous.  I got array 6 which I dont need...what a waste of friggin time...07:19
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Myrttitime to play tuxracer -->07:19
Jento00001lol07:19
Jento00001that games mad07:19
tgaJento00001: Ubuntu drops a bunch of Gnome crap on your machine07:19
XenguyrommerUB: try -> apt-get install smbfs07:19
Jento00001tga: how much room in total 1 gig?07:20
rommerUBhmm ok07:20
tgaI don't really know07:20
out_of_focusUbuntu takes up about 1.5GB installed, doesn't it?07:20
out_of_focusi remember reading that07:20
Jento00001thats not bad07:20
tgaif you're really tight on space go with Debian and only install what you need07:20
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Xenguyout_of_focus: more, AFAIK07:20
tgalike X and openbox or something07:21
goldfish_johnwl: It's lies.07:21
johnwlhaha ok07:21
Jento00001tga: i only have 4 gigs of room for linux07:21
XenguyJento00001: that's do-able07:21
|QuaD- 4 gigs???07:21
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johnwlmaybe they are running Amiga :p07:21
|QuaD-thats a small hd07:21
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Xenguy|QuaD-: yes, but it can work with linux :-)07:22
Fr0d0Ubuntu will easily eat 4 gigs and cry for more...it is hard to keep it lean07:22
tgaJento00001: thing is you probably won't be running Gnome on that old machine of yours anyway07:22
tgapersonally I'07:22
out_of_focushard drives are cheap nowadays07:22
tgapersonally I'd go with a small Debian install07:22
Fr0d0Especially if you do the updates07:22
johnwli bought a 160gb harddrive to install Ubuntu on..i have a little room left :)07:22
Myrttithat game is too intense for me07:22
jsgotangcobleah i only run 6gb for ubuntu07:22
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da_bon_bonare kubuntu live cds avialable ?07:23
johnwlyep07:23
Myrttiyou know what, I play with Ubuntu more games than I played with Windows07:23
jsgotangcoactually 5.0GB07:23
|QuaD-Xenguy: it can, but why wouldn't one just put ubuntu on the WHOLE hd07:23
|QuaD-or give windows 5 GB07:23
johnwloh wait..dunno about kubuntu07:23
Fr0d0I installed Ubuntu yesterday and it is already using 4 gigs and I have added nothing07:23
jsgotangco4GB?07:23
jsgotangcowtf07:23
Xenguy|QuaD-: HD space is cheap enough - true07:23
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|QuaD-Xenguy: no need to have windows07:23
out_of_focusI'm going to replace Windows with Ubuntu on my PC soon07:23
Fr0d0if you do the updates, Ubuntu grows real quick07:23
Xenguy|QuaD-: ideally :-)07:24
rommerUBtga: is there an easy way to mount the shares, as i use them alot07:24
jsgotangcowell just remove the old updates07:24
|QuaD-out_of_focus: soon=tonight?!?07:24
jsgotangcodont keep em07:24
out_of_focusno.07:24
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tgarommerUB: you stick them into /etc/fstab and they get mounted at boot07:24
out_of_focusnot that soon!07:24
rommerUBok thanks07:24
out_of_focusi think i'm going to do a test install on an old 10GB hd just to see how everything runs07:24
|QuaD-out_of_focus: it will run great :)07:25
johnwlthats more than enough room for a test07:25
da_bon_bondoes kubuntu live cd have kde 3.3 or 3.4 ?07:25
jsgotangcoi use a different partition for /home/blah so i can keep my install as clean as possible07:25
out_of_focusi'm on my mac right now, but on my pc i'm really just fed up with windows07:25
|QuaD-da_bon_bon: 3.307:25
|QuaD-3.4 isn't even on non live cd07:25
out_of_focusbetween the random application crashes, random reboots, bsod..07:25
|QuaD-3.4 is still beta07:25
Fr0d0Nevertheless, out of 8 Linux distros I currently use...Ubuntu is one of my favorites, except that it likes to break and need reinstalling frequently07:26
da_bon_bon|QuaD-: oh, :(07:26
|QuaD-da_bon_bon: name a distro that has 3.4?07:26
out_of_focusit needs reinstalling frequently??07:26
jsgotangcohuh?07:26
tritiumFr0d0, it shouldn't need re-installing.  configuring, perhaps, but not re-installing07:26
jsgotangcoubuntu breaks easily?07:27
|QuaD-jsgotangco: nope07:27
da_bon_bon|QuaD-: klax07:27
Fr0d0Hoary has been Linux hell for me07:27
tgajsgotangco: if it breaks you get to keep both pieces07:27
da_bon_bonjsgotangco: never broken for me07:27
da_bon_bonFr0d0: then use warty and wait for stable release07:27
jsgotangcome either07:27
out_of_focushoary is a buggy preview release07:27
jsgotangcohoary was buggy so i reverted07:27
tritiumbut it's not that buggy ;)07:27
out_of_focusit shouldn't be expected to be stable07:27
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jsgotangcolol07:28
|QuaD-da_bon_bon: a non live cd07:28
rommerUBtga: would i add them to /etc/fstab like -> //compname/share /home/user/mnt/share ?07:28
johnwlUbunut is chocolate covered debian07:28
johnwlUbuntu07:28
out_of_focushaha07:28
Fr0d0Im using Hoary now...it worked better updating from Warty rather than the cd iso07:28
|QuaD-tga: you want to go back to debian? how come?07:28
tgarommerUB: follow the model of the other lines.. //comp/share /mnt/share 0 0 umask=007:28
jsgotangcoill just go hoary when its final07:28
da_bon_bon|QuaD-: none. :) suse packages are available, thoguh07:29
tgarommerUB: the umask=0 will make the share available read/write for all users07:29
johnwlhalf the fun of linux is trying new distros..i wanna get a cheap pc just for that lol07:29
rommerUBok thanks07:29
rommerUBill give it a go07:29
Fr0d0Ubuntu isn't debian because debian developers havent got the sense to make their distro more user friendly07:29
jsgotangcome too i do that on weekends07:29
out_of_focusthen buy one of those bargain pcs from outpost.com / fry's.07:29
|QuaD-da_bon_bon: Riddell has test 3.4 packages out...not official yet thoguh07:29
|QuaD-Fr0d0: i like debian :)07:29
jsgotangcoa celeron PC would suffice07:30
tga|QuaD-: just used to it I guess, I haven't found much in Ubuntu other than the brown Gnome you can't refuse07:30
johnwlyeah im probably gonna pick up a frys cheapo07:30
Fr0d0Quad,.good for you, I like Ubuntu07:30
jsgotangcoor the ones that run VIA07:30
jsgotangcoheh07:30
tgaor vmware07:30
|QuaD-tga: thats basically all it is :)07:30
out_of_focusi saw one with linspire in the ad last friday for $19907:30
da_bon_bon|QuaD-: u installed Kubuntu using the install / live cd ?07:30
jsgotangcowhoa07:30
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|QuaD-da_bon_bon: nope, apt-get install kde07:31
|QuaD-then took off what i didn't want07:31
Zotnix|QuaD-, they do that?07:31
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johnwlyeah and i could try out linspire for 5 minutes before installing something else muhaha07:31
tgaI like it how vmware can boot stuff directly off the other half of the drive now07:31
da_bon_bon|QuaD-: and using GNOME too ?07:31
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|QuaD-Zotnix: the ydid :)07:31
|QuaD-da_bon_bon: nope.... though i need gtk07:31
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da_bon_bonhow do i move ubuntu from /dev/hda1 to /dev/hdcX ?07:31
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|QuaD-da_bon_bon: kubuntu wasn't available when i put kde on07:31
johnwlUbuntu looks like someone pooed on it07:31
out_of_focusthen change your theme07:32
jsgotangcolol because its brown?07:32
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johnwlnah its growing on me07:32
Fr0d0Quad: give me a debian that has the features of Ubuntu and I would agree with you, but debian is behind trying to reinvent the wheel while Mepis, Ubuntu, Knoppix is using their foundation to make real distros07:32
tgada_bon_bon: are the partitions the same size?07:32
Zotnix|QuaD-, they seem to give out licenses a lot to regular people.07:32
da_bon_bon|QuaD-: ok, so will u upgrade to 3.4 ??07:32
tgaFr0d0: ubuntu _is_ debian07:32
johnwlUbuntu is the only brown thing ive ever liked07:32
jsgotangcoMepis is good too07:32
ZotnixI guess their revenue comes from big companies.07:32
da_bon_bontga: yes, i will make it that if needed07:32
out_of_focusisn't Mepis like Ubuntu's "big competition"?07:32
tgada_bon_bon: you could just go dd if=/dev/hda1 of=/dev/hda207:32
jsgotangcosort of07:32
Fr0d0Ubuntu is not debian, go to debian room and say what you just said, and they will crucify you07:33
helio7hello all; does anyone have any recommendations for a linux-friendly pcmcia wifi card for my laptop?  I've heard good things about orinoco and prism chipsets, but was thinking of trying to find one that was "G" band... anyone using such a thing care to report about it?07:33
tgada_bon_bon: do that off a livecd though07:33
|QuaD-Fr0d0: what features????07:33
ZotnixI tried out VMWare 5 recently. License wore off.07:33
da_bon_bontga: but will that move effectively ?? config and breakage problem!?07:33
johnwlRegardless of what the debian folks say Unbuntu is based on debian07:33
|QuaD-Zotnix: really? interesting07:33
|QuaD-da_bon_bon: yeah07:33
|QuaD-Zotnix: this is a non expiring license07:33
ZotnixWas a trial version.07:33
jsgotangcohelio7: my Dlink DWL-G650+ works in Ubuntu but using Ndiswrapper07:33
|QuaD-Zotnix: this is a full version :)07:33
Fr0d0duh...based on debian IS NOT FRIGGIN DEBIAN07:33
tgada_bon_bon: after you move it mount it end change /etc/fstab and /boot/grub/menu.lst07:33
jsgotangcoit has debian roots07:34
viper12helio7, on the inexpensive side....I'm using the netgear wifi 'g' (54meg wifi) card.........works like a charm. (without ndis).07:34
johnwlwhatever07:34
da_bon_bontga: have u tried it yourself ?07:34
|QuaD-Fr0d0: what features does debian not have?07:34
tgada_bon_bon: I can't think of any other places that directly mention the partition07:34
out_of_focusUbuntu is debian that actually updated.07:34
ZotnixWell, the trial version IS the full version. It just doesn't let you start a virtual machine after 30 days07:34
jsgotangcobleeding edge debian07:34
out_of_focusthe last major release of Debian was in 2002!07:34
tgada_bon_bon: I never needed to, but I'd expect it to work07:34
da_bon_bontga: cant i resize ext3 using any tools ?07:34
helio7jsgotangco: I've read about using Ndiswrapper is there any con to it besides the setup time?  viper12: what's the model number on that netgear card you have?07:34
johnwlJust wait until Ubuntu swallows debian..woo that will piss them off07:35
viper12what some people don't realize is that Debian is TOO updated....its called the "sid" branch, and this is what ubuntu is based on.07:35
tgada_bon_bon: parted/qtparted might do it but there's always a chance you'll trash the partition07:35
out_of_focushaha07:35
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Fr0d0If I use cubism (who was developed by Picasso) do I become Picasso too?07:35
|QuaD-viper12: EXACTLY, ubuntu is basically sid07:35
tgaerm?07:35
|QuaD-with a few small changes07:35
jsgotangcohelio7: Ndiswrapper isn't that complicated really07:35
tgahoary is basically sid, warty is basically sarge07:35
viper12helio7, I'm using the wg311 card....netgear has a newer 'rev' of that card (same model number) that performs better, but I'm happy with this one as is.07:35
|QuaD-tga: kinda, warty is like and old sid but newer than sarge07:36
Fr0d0just because Ubuntu uses the same foundation doesnt make it Debian...07:36
da_bon_bontga: qtparted has trashed my disk more than once! qtparted sucks!07:36
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helio7viper12 & jsgotangco thanks so much07:36
jsgotangcohelio7: but you would be better off getting prism chipset cards because they are natively supported07:36
tgada_bon_bon: same here :)07:36
viper12np helio.07:36
|QuaD-Fr0d0: what is debian missing that ubuntu has?07:36
|QuaD-or mepis has?07:36
out_of_focushas anybody here tried Ubuntu on a PowerPC machine?07:36
jsgotangcothe poo color07:36
viper12jsgo......any card that DOESNT need ndiswrapper is 'natively' supported.07:36
tga|QuaD-: cool chick on the gdm theme07:36
johnwlUbuntu on debian: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/relationship/document_view07:36
jsgotangcoYAHHH07:36
|QuaD-tga: yeah... haha07:36
johnwlUbuntpoo07:37
Fr0d0Quad, a sane way of putting all the pieces together07:37
jsgotangcowho is the cool chick anyway07:37
thoreauputicout_of_focus: yes07:37
da_bon_bonanyone has tried gparted ?07:37
viper12must be another slow 'patch' day judging from this convo.07:37
jsgotangcohow come we dont see wiki entries of them at all07:37
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viper12da-bon...I use gparted...really like it.07:37
out_of_focushow does it run on PPC compared to x86?07:37
tgada_bon_bon: I believe qtparted and gparted are just frontends to the same thing07:37
|QuaD-Fr0d0: a. thats not a feature, that is included packages. b. you can get debian with what you want07:37
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viper12I tried qtparted, and found the interface really bugged.  the gparted is just 'cleaner'.07:38
thoreauputicout_of_focus: very well, at least here on an iBook G4 768MB RAM07:38
out_of_focuscan i use the same packages on the ppc version as the x86 one uses?07:38
tgaI don't really see the point of Ubuntu, I believe the work should have went into Debian07:38
thoreauputicmore or less, yes07:38
Fr0d0you can put Ubuntu on what you want too...with about as much ease of configuring pure Debian07:38
crimsunthere will remain inevitable comparisions between debian and ubuntu. let us just leave it at "ubuntu is based on debian."07:38
|QuaD-ok ignorant people like Fr0d0 make me mad so i am going to bed07:38
da_bon_bontga: no, qtparted uses a library if its own - whereas gparted doesnt07:38
|QuaD-night all07:38
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tganight |QuaD-07:38
Echylognight07:38
Fr0d0? Igonorant? you come praising Debian over Ubuntu in an Ubuntu room and you call me ignorant??07:39
da_bon_bon|QuaD-: night07:39
jsgotangcoheh you still cant deny that ubuntu came from debian07:39
out_of_focusI'm currently on a BLAZING 350Mhz G4 with 384MB of RAM..07:39
Echylohey hey07:39
Echylojoin #war07:39
jsgotangcoonly shows how GOOD debian is07:39
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thoreauputicguys... #ubuntu-offtopic07:39
viper12tga? huh? the point?  the point is that  any distro has its own 'focus' and goals.  ubuntu wanted to do somethings differently than the debian 'main'....and their work and community is showing up beautifully.07:39
jsgotangco#ubuntu-war07:39
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Echylojup07:39
goldfish_Ubuntu is based on debian jsgotangco.07:39
da_bon_bonthoreauputic: bob2 started it07:39
johnwlthats the beauty of open source07:39
Fr0d0Go to Debian room then07:39
jsgotangcoI KNOW07:40
tgaviper12: thing is I don't see much difference at the moment07:40
da_bon_bonbye all07:40
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tgait might just branch off later, like Mandrake vs RedHat or something07:40
out_of_focuswhat would you say is Ubuntu's biggest weakness?07:40
jsgotangco:D07:40
viper12I certainly do......from community differences, to support, to fast updates and fixes. shrugs.07:40
jsgotangcothe poo color?07:40
out_of_focusbecause all distros have some sort of weakness07:40
tgaout_of_focus: the colour?07:40
helio7viper12 did you say your wg311 is pcmcia or pci? laptop or desktop?07:40
out_of_focushaha07:40
bob2please stay on-topic, guys07:41
johnwlthat shirtless guy on the homepage07:41
Zotnixout_of_focus, lack of "configuration" tools.07:41
haydenis mplayer available from apt-get07:41
bob2or daniels will come in07:41
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bob2hayden: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats07:41
jsgotangcoshirtless guy lol07:41
viper12the wg311 is a pci based wifi card.  are you looking for laptop wifi?07:41
tgait's all on topic bob207:41
thoreauputicout_of_focus: well, I'd be happier if it added entries to the menu  better ...07:41
viper12hayden it is.......if you turn on universe/multiverse in the repos.07:41
johnwlthe installer needs some work..partitioning throws a lot of ppl off07:41
helio7viper12 yes laptop wifi is what I'm looking for07:41
bob2no, this sounds an awful lot like trolling07:41
tgaat least we're trolling on topic07:42
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Fr0d0I was able to make a menu editor with php from delltony's forum entry and it works great07:42
out_of_focushow long does it take to install Ubuntu?07:42
weas3661can anyone here help a newbie...just have one question..07:42
Echylo1 hour on a P207:42
goldfish_weas3661: ask away07:42
viper12I'm a big netgear fan, so a lil' biased, so other than a specific model number ( i don't know it) the 'g' pcmcia card should work just fine. (no issues of any break nature in the forums regarding them.)07:42
weas3661out of focus...just did an install...not too long07:42
helio7viper12 it seems i *just* read a great review of a netgear pcmcia wifi card that actually advertises as "linux friendly" but can't find it atm07:42
Zotnixout_of_focus, not long. Here it took 30 minutes.07:42
Zotnix1.13 GHz AMD though.07:42
thoreauputicout_of_focus: it's quick07:42
Fr0d0The install of Ubuntu is about 30 minutes on an AMD 2400+ puter07:42
out_of_focusoh goodie then07:42
weas3661my mouse is NOT working with ubuntu...it won't move at all07:43
tgaweas3661: what kind of mouse is it?07:43
Echylowhy you need a mouse for?07:43
weas3661logitech wheel mouse07:43
Echylo:roll:07:43
out_of_focusi don't see how a mouse wouldn't work...07:43
tgaweas3661: is it plugged in?07:43
viper12helio7........are you checking the www.netgear.com site?  products are pretty easy to locate on it.07:43
weas3661echylo...i'm a newbie...i tried sourcemage...but just wanted a desktop for now07:43
Fr0d0and the install is extremely intuitive and updates everything right away07:43
thoreauputicout_of_focus: the default install just includes a basic set of apps - quite well chosen though07:43
out_of_focustry the mouse on another computer07:43
weas3661yes...it is plugged in...it works fine with windows07:43
tgaweas3661: is it plugged in on PS2 or USB?07:44
weas3661so i'm thinking it's a driver problem...but i have no clue how to fix it07:44
helio7viper12 yeah thanks, I'm there now, was trying to actually locate 3rd party reviews from a linux pov, but yes, i have a tab open on netgear.com07:44
out_of_focusbut things like Java and Flash need to be installed, right?07:44
weas3661it's plugged into a usb07:44
thoreauputicout_of_focus: hardware issues are less likely on ppc, I'd say07:44
viper12My laptop usses the intel centrino 2100 'b' stuff natively and has worked with hoary and warty with no issues, so I'm not even looking for another one there. :)07:44
out_of_focusi used the LiveCd on my P4 system and it worked perfectly07:44
thoreauputicout_of_focus: yes,, restricted formats...07:44
johnwldid you try unplugging the mouse and plugging it back in?07:44
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out_of_focusbut i'm waiting until i get a new mobo before i go and install ubuntu07:45
weas3661yep...tried that...tried plugging it into a different usb port as well, but that didn't work either07:45
aristocratcan anyone point to me from where "/bin2/sh" comes from?07:45
moyogohow does one change the keyboard layout for the whole system, not just the current user?07:45
out_of_focusmy current mobo has 2 malfunctioned ram slots--they don't work correctly.07:45
out_of_focusonly 1 of the ram slots works correctly07:45
out_of_focusso i can only have 256mb of ram07:45
crimsunaristocrat: no such link/file07:45
aristocratwell actually there is. initrd-tools uses this :S07:46
out_of_focussince the largest sticks i have are 256mb ones..07:46
Fr0d0I used Mepis for about 5 months and like it, but Ubuntu has overtaken Mepis in my opinion in many ways...speed is one of them07:46
crimsunaristocrat: if you mean "/bin/sh", that's provided by bash07:46
aristocratnope, /bin2/sh which is used by init in initrd-tools07:46
out_of_focusI wonder how Doom 3 would run on Ubuntu...07:46
tgamoyogo: you could try sticking `setxkbmap FOO` into a file sourced by all users, like /etc/profile07:46
Fr0d0With cedega, quite well...07:47
weas3661i just wish my mouse would work...that'd make me happy07:47
out_of_focusis cedega like wine?07:47
viper12reports on doom3 in the forums seem to have happy people. (with the emulators of course.)07:47
Fr0d0cedega is wine on steroids07:47
thoreauputicout_of_focus: yes, winex07:47
crimsunaristocrat: ah, I see, e.g., from /usr/share/initrd-tools/init07:47
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johnwlweas2661: a thread on usb mouse issues - http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=9887&highlight=mouse07:48
out_of_focusbecause on the idsoftware site it said how to run doom 3 on linux by copying some files off the windows cd and such07:48
Quaruptdoes mplayer have like a bar or something with buttons?07:48
weas3661thank you07:48
tgaweas3661: try to `cat /dev/input/mice` into a console and move your mouse, see if you get anything07:48
out_of_focusbut it didn't sound like it was emulated07:48
aristocratcrimsun, right...that _exact_one07:48
viper12yes it has buttons and bars quarupt. (if you get the ui modules.)07:48
stingaacan someone help me with my usb wireless adapter07:48
jsgotangcohmm07:48
Quaruptwhats the packages called?07:48
ZotnixRegarding mice, I had to enable DOS USB support in my BIOS.07:48
tgaQuarupt: you can use gmplayer07:48
Quaruptthx07:48
Fr0d0I burned dvd on Ubuntu tonight, it did very well too, I used dvdbackup, wine, dvd shrink and k3b...it took about 40 minutes all together to rip 4.7 gigs07:49
jsgotangcobbl07:49
QuaruptYou had to use wine?07:49
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Quarupttheres no good dvd backup software for linux?07:49
Fr0d0you can rip without wine, but not shrink07:49
stingaaguess not07:49
tgayou can probably shrink too07:49
crimsunaristocrat: see http://mail.plug.linux.org.au/pipermail/plug/2004-August/056102.html07:49
rommerUBwhy isnt firefox 1.0.1 available in apt-get07:50
ZotnixAlso, if you notice you can't get full screen in videos on mplayer try changing vo=x11 to vo=xv in /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf07:50
tgayou can transcode dvds with vobcopy and mencoder07:50
Fr0d0tell me how and I will do it07:50
Fr0d0transcode sux07:50
moyogotga: there's no clean way like base-config or something similar?07:50
viper12never had that prob zot07:50
Quarupti want a good game to play07:50
Quaruptanything good packaged?07:50
crimsunnethack and its variants ;-)07:50
tgamoyogo: I'm not sure moyogo07:50
Fr0d0Quarupt...armagetron...addictive online07:50
johnwli play enemy territory..runs great on linux07:51
viper12what no topless women to watch in netmeeting tonight quarupt?  lmao07:51
moyogotga: thanks anyway i'll keep looking07:51
bob2keep it clean, people07:51
tgaenemy territory is fun for a while07:51
Fr0d0yes, only clean topless ladies07:51
johnwli dunno ive been addicted since release..not sure why07:51
viper12keep what clean bob?07:51
Quaruptviper12, no, fucking netmeeting07:51
tgamy laptop cured my addiction.. no 3D acceleration for now..07:51
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johnwlthat would do it07:51
Fr0d0Why TGA?07:52
bob2by "clean", I mean "above the level of 14 year old boys"07:52
tgawhy I have no 3D accel?07:52
Quaruptlmao07:52
Fr0d0Im 1307:52
johnwlcan any man rise above that level?07:52
Fr0d0Yes07:52
Quaruptoh i need 3d accel?07:52
Quaruptdamn ATI07:52
tgato play games? it's helpful..07:52
Fr0d0Ati is well supported in Ubuntu07:52
viper12If you are referring to my statement about topless women.......that was in reference to his miserable problems trying to get linux going with a webcam last night.07:52
QuaruptFr0d0, no its not, theres no packaged 3d accel07:53
aristocratcrimsun, i had seen it earlier, but what does it mean? :)07:53
johnwli wouldnt say well supported since when you install it it says "Not tested with ATI blah blah"07:53
Fr0d0download kernel source and get the tarball , compile....07:53
Quaruptthere is no 3D accel for Ubuntu/ATI07:53
weas3661okay...i'm about to try what that post said...wish me luck07:53
tgathat's probably the kernel07:53
johnwlgl weas07:54
viper12quarupt that is so not true.  (on 3d accel ati machine typing at you at the moment.)07:54
Quaruptviper12, what?07:54
Fr0d0it isn't that hard to set up 3d with ati07:54
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Quaruptno i have checked no drivers for ATI 3d accel in any sources07:54
johnwlits not really an ubuntu issue tho is it..ATI is not generally as well supported in linux environments as nvidia..thats my understanding07:55
viper12quarupt, there are plenty of howtos in the forums on getting ati setup just fine.07:55
Fr0d0TGA mobility 6?07:55
Quaruptit is set up just fine07:55
tgaFr0d0: 320M IGP07:55
viper12johnwi.......it IS true that nvidia supports better, but the ati drivers work okay as well.07:55
Fr0d0that is mobility07:55
Quaruptthere is no support for 3D accel is what im saying the ATI driver works fine07:55
Fr0d0there is a module07:55
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viper12and you are incorrect in saying that there is no 3d accel.07:56
Quaruptlmao07:56
tgaFr0d0: I poked around for 30 mins or so and couldn't get it to do 3D07:56
QuaruptI said PACKAGED for UBUNTU did anyone else here this?07:56
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Quaruptflamers, this is not a channel for you07:56
Fr0d0In many distros, Nvidia is not packaged either....it is so easy to install anyway07:57
johnwllets all take off our shirts and hold hands like on the home page07:57
viper12lol john.07:57
Quaruptjohnwl, LMFAo, that was funny07:57
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crimsunerr07:57
Fr0d0I have ati mobility on my laptop and have 3d right now07:58
goldfish_LOL07:58
crimsunthe ati and nvidia drivers in linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) provide that07:58
tgaFr0d0: what did you have to do to get it going?07:58
viper12as do I frodo.07:58
viper12smooth as silk i might add.07:58
crimsunyou will also have to install nvidia-glx or ati's gl[x]  libs07:58
crimsunsee http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto07:58
chillywillyis esound still currently being replaces by polypaudio in hoary or did that change? cause now when I run dist-upgrade it does not want to rip esound out anymore07:58
Fr0d0download source, looked for ati tarball compiled, it is easy07:58
chillywillyreplaced*07:58
tgaFr0d0, viper12: ok, I'll reboot to Ubuntu and come bug you guys about getting 3D to work07:59
viper12np tga. :)07:59
crimsunchillywilly: yes, polypaudio supercedes it07:59
johnwlok everyone log out j/k07:59
Fr0d0unless he has a very exotic ati card, it should be a piece of cake08:00
viper12yep....like changing one line in xorg.conf.  lol08:00
Echylocya all school time08:00
Fr0d0lol...08:00
Quaruptcrisum, wanna help me set up my 3d accel then?08:01
viper12frodo are you using any options under the ati 'device' section?  I didn't bother with any and haven't had any issues....just curious.08:01
crimsunQuarupt: is your hardware supported? did you follow the wiki page's directions?08:01
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Quarupti dunno08:02
chillywillycrimsun: but that's not what I asked because to me it seems like this i not the case anymore as it does not want to remove esound and install polypaudio like it did before08:02
Quarupti have been reading wiki for so long i really dun wanna go into another HUGE project08:02
crimsunQuarupt: ok, we'll start with the first question: what video card?08:02
QuaruptATI All In Wonder 9600 pro08:02
thoreauputichmm - no ubuntu-calendar-march yet?08:03
crimsunchillywilly: it's actually fairly simple to trace: apt-cache show ubuntu-desktop|grep polypaudio-  returns polypaudio-alsa, and apt-cache show polypaudio-alsa  returns a polypaudio in Depends08:04
crimsunchillywilly: esound only has to be removed once ;-)08:05
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crimsunQuarupt: the 9600 series is supported, yes08:09
Quaruptokay08:09
crimsunQuarupt: whether the full feature set is supported is another story08:09
Quaruptso whats the first think i need to install?08:09
crimsunQuarupt: please see the BinaryDriverHowto ...08:09
thoreauputiccrimsun: any idea if the ubuntu-calendar for march is available yet?08:09
johnwlanyone run set@home?08:10
johnwler seti@home08:10
chillywillycrimsun: oh well then I guess I will just wait until my sound is b0rked again08:10
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viper12john..I looked at it.........they're moving all their stuff to 'boinc' and I've found that to be bugged all to hell atm.08:11
crimsunthoreauputic: not yet.08:11
johnwlyeah i installed it but they've been down08:11
viper12i ran seti@home for 6 years until some brain surgeon decided boinc was better.08:11
thoreauputiccrimsun: OK -thanks - apt-cahe search came up empty so I figured that was the case :)08:11
Quaruptcrisum where is that?08:12
johnwlkeep that guy away from my brain lol08:12
crimsunQuarupt: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto08:12
viper12of course seti is 'saturated' right now anyway.....they have so many users that they don't have enough data to pass around......pretty ironc actually.08:12
viper12er...ironic..08:12
johnwlive heard so many stories of ppl getting fired for it im surprised use hasnt leveled off08:12
thoreauputicviper12: well, there's folding@home (good cause)08:13
viper12fired........for seti? huh?08:13
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viper12thor.........folding?08:13
viper12you pullin' mah leg?08:13
johnwlyeah we actually had a few state empluyees fired for installing it in labs and stuff08:13
tgaapparently if you fsck up the / line in /etc/fstab the system doesn't come back up08:13
johnwluse of state resources lol08:13
thoreauputicviper12: protein folding calculations I think08:13
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tgamm I love this gtk theme.. gonxical08:14
viper12oh that one.  nods.  duh.  lol.........actually there is one I'm thinking of hooking up with....a new 'gravity' study is getting ready to start....huge amounts of calcs required.08:14
johnwlis the client available yet?08:14
johnwltheres another one..wired.com has the story...searching for planets and if you find one you get to name it08:15
thoreauputichttp://folding.stanford.edu/08:15
viper12its under boinc, unfortunately.......so I'm waiting another 'rev' with berkley's coders on it.08:15
tgaviper12: so what video card do you have in your lappy?08:15
coronerthere would be more support for such distrobuted clients i feel if the results found were better published08:15
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viper12or stanford's.....always forget which university is responsible for boinc.  and TGA.......my laptop is the 9200 mobility.08:15
tgaviper12: that explains it why it works for you.. I don't think the 320M is supported by the same drivers08:16
viper12the ati fglrx drivers are s'posed (keyword) support a wide range of ati cards...but its possible tga.  I do remember reading something about 320m in the forums, but as I'm not using that flavor...shrugs.08:17
viper12tga, do you have the fglrx stuff on your machine?08:18
viper12and in the line in xorg replacing 'ati' in the device section?08:18
viper12that, literally is all it took to get me rolling.08:18
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tgaviper12: I have Driver "radeon" atm08:19
tgahowever FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.10-3-386/kernel/drivers/video/fglrx.ko): No such device08:19
viper12you need to apt-get the fglrx drivers and after installing them, change the xorg or xfree (depending on warty/hoary) to say fglrx where it used to say 'radeon'.08:20
tgaviper12: it would seem that the fglrx module doesn't recognize my card08:20
viper12no...................08:21
viper12tga, you've GOT to use the 686 kernel for that to work.08:21
viper12i'm on 2.6.10-408:21
viper12t68608:21
viper12er...68608:21
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xed_So.. I got Ubuntu installed and whatnot..08:22
xed_now i got a quick question..08:22
viper12shoot xed.08:22
tgaI'm on 2.6.10-308:22
viper12its the 386 that's the problem tga.08:22
tgano it's not, it matches my kernel08:22
xed_viper12, I need me sound! me sound!!!08:22
xed_I updated and everything from ze net as well before booting up. =\08:22
tgayou sound fine xed08:22
viper12tga?????08:23
tgaLinux08:23
tgaLinux idefix 2.6.10-3-386 #1 Tue Feb 15 21:18:07 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux08:23
tgaviper12: I have a -386 kernel, that's all08:23
xed_tga: eh?08:23
viper12yeah, and you NEED to upgrad to the 2.6.10-4-686 kernel08:23
johnwlxed: grats08:23
xed_grats?08:23
xed_what?08:23
viper12or even the 2.6.10-3-686 version.08:23
xed_Oh08:23
tgaviper12: the platform optimizations don't change anything08:24
xed_Congrats08:24
xed_johnw1: And all I needed to do was destroy windows and re-install it.08:24
viper12yes........they........do. (after mucho checking and looking.)08:24
johnwlxed: the best thing to do after install is go through the ap section of the unofficial starter guide: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/08:24
thoreauputictga: in this case I believe viper12 is right ( for ati etc)08:24
viper12however, that still might be an issue with the 320m08:24
rommerUBwhy is mplayer so hard to install?08:24
johnwlrommer did you try the starter guide?08:25
tgamaybe I am missing something here, I'll go look for a newer kernel08:25
tgarommerUB: it's not08:25
GammaRayso xine can be easy to install08:25
viper12you don't have sound xed?  laptop/desktop?  warty or hoary ubuntu?  and sound card?08:25
rommerUBhow do i install it then tga08:25
Slack_RoxIs there much of s speed drop between slack and ubuntu? anyone know?08:26
GammaRaySlack_Rox: why would you think there is any?08:26
xed_why is my fan constantly running..>?08:26
jdubSlack_Rox: a system is only as fast as you perceive it.08:26
tgarommerUB: add the marillat-debian source to your /etc/apt/sources.list, then apt-get install mplayer08:26
thoreauputictga:  apt-cache search linux-image | grep 68608:26
xed_for my laptop that is08:26
xed_why1? WHY!!!?08:26
xed_Its loud and annoying =(08:27
crimsunrommerUB: you need to add two sources if you're running warty08:27
xed_I need it on lower power settings..08:27
GammaRayjdub: oh and as fast as it can encode ogg08:27
tgathoreauputic: k7 in my case, I'm already doing it08:27
crimsunrommerUB: afaik, mplayer works fine.08:27
xed_how do I go about doing that?08:27
johnwli would imagine slack is faster (just a guess) but there are so many variables thats hard to say08:27
viper12okay you're saying that the sound IS working?  its just too loud?08:27
tgaxed_: what kind of laptop is that?08:27
Slack_RoxI'm only asking because I have seen in forums others saying ubuntu is slower than slack... Is why I was looking for an objective opinion on the matter from someone who has possibly ran both...08:27
GammaRayjohnwl: quite an imagination you have there :-P08:27
tgamy fan tends to run more in linux than in winxp, really annoying in quiet rooms08:28
johnwlslackwarehas always had a reputation for being fast08:28
rommerUBhow do i get a gui for mplayer08:28
crimsunrommerUB: gmplayer08:28
xed_tga: Toshiba Satellite A7008:28
tganothing is as fast as Gentoo *hides*08:28
viper12slack.......i've read several reviews of ubuntu and the one thing all agreed upon was that it IS fast.  slack is the 'standard' benchmark, and although its probably quicker......ubuntu is no slouch.08:28
xed_tga: how did you go about turning off your fan?08:28
GammaRaytga: gah08:28
jdubjohnwl: not necessarily based on reality or rational thought.08:28
rommerUBhow do i install gmplayer ;)08:29
GammaRayviper12: what exactly where they measuring?08:29
johnwlif your on a relatively decent machine (2-3 years old) it probably wont matter which distro you go with08:29
GoneBoBjohnwl: or indeed on any machine08:29
viper12gamma, most of the reivews (via distrowatch and a few others like osnews) were talking about boot up and overall 'responsiveness.)08:29
crimsunrommerUB: it's included in the mplayer* package08:29
rommerUBok08:29
xed_xed@ubuntu:~ $ sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla08:29
xed_Reading Package Lists... Done08:29
xed_Building Dependency Tree... Done08:29
xed_E: Couldn't find package flashplayer-mozilla08:29
tgaxed_: I have an Athlon so I modprobe powernow_k7, then poke around /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq08:30
Slack_RoxSo I wouldn't see some huge performance drop then eh?08:30
xed_tga: that.. means ... nothing to me.08:30
GammaRayviper12: overall responsivenessis silly..08:30
crimsunxed_: enable multiverse08:30
johnwlyeah you can drop to the command line and be smoking fast on just about anything i guess08:30
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xed_crimsun..! THATS the person who helped me before!08:30
xed_I remember now!08:30
xed_I forgot .. I know I have to edit a certain file to enable it08:30
tgayou're it crimsun08:31
xed_I can't remmeber the file name08:31
GammaRayif they all run the same software.. I think they will be about the same.08:31
Slack_Roxbrb08:31
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xed_Ello?08:31
xed_Anyone?08:31
xed_Tell me how to enable mult-verse?08:31
crimsunxed_: you can add it using Synaptic>Settings>Repositories, or you can use an editor to add it manually to /etc/apt/sources.list08:31
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GammaRayxed_: you must go to the dark portal08:31
crimsunxed_: the former method is probably more intuitive08:31
viper12not necessarily gammaray......for instance, if one were using an optimized and customized gentoo version of gnome, it would probably be tons quicker than say a 'stock' non optimized version of gnome running on another distro.08:32
StudioGhibliHello. need help. Am running Debian unstable. but will reinstall. So want to try out Ubuntu, adn maybe stick to it. Which iso should i download? the new hoary iso?08:32
tgathe latest kernel-image-2.6 seems to be 2.6.8-208:32
xed_crimsun: I remember I did it with the latter method.. as thats how you told me to do it before.08:32
tgaStudioGhibli: if you run debian unstable you can download any iso, then upgrade to the greatest latest thing08:32
viper12tga, if you're repositories are opened to 'universe/multi in hoary, the newer kernels are there.)08:32
tgathanks vincent_08:32
tgaviper12 rather08:32
viper12np08:33
GammaRayviper12: nope. Any distro worth it's salt optimizes for x86 about as much as it can already.08:33
xed_crimsun, remind me has to how I can get my sound working again?08:33
StudioGhiblitga: can i dist-upgrade to unstable to Ubuntu?08:33
crimsuntga: for warty, 2.6.8.1-5-*08:33
StudioGhiblitga: can i dist-upgrade from unstable to Ubuntu?08:33
viper12not here to argue with you gamma.......but lets just agree to disagree on that one and let it lie.08:33
thoreauputicStudioGhibli: you can dist-upgrade warty> hoary, yeah08:33
crimsunStudioGhibli: search the wiki. The short answer: yes. The long answer: not recommended, you'll have headaches.08:33
StudioGhiblicrimsun: oops.08:33
GammaRayviper12: I don't see any new insights on compilers from gentoo08:33
StudioGhibliheadaches is not something i want. already have one from flu08:34
xed_crimsun, how do I enable the multiverse?08:34
xed_with the sources.list file that is08:34
johnwlstarter guide tells you how zed08:34
StudioGhiblithoreauputic: no. i use Debian. Unstable. Want to try Ubuntu.08:34
johnwlxed08:34
crimsunStudioGhibli: if you'd like to try Ubuntu, why not try the Array-6 images?08:34
thoreauputicStudioGhibli: OK - got it (bit slow)08:34
crimsunStudioGhibli: (/topic)08:34
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xed_Does the starter guide tell me how to get my fan to not be so loud?08:35
xed_(for my laptop tha tis)08:35
StudioGhibliyeah. just copied that URL to the browser.08:35
johnwlthe installer should pop up that starter guide as soon as new users log in08:35
johnwllol08:35
StudioGhiblithoreauputic: hehe.08:35
viper12i so agree with that john. lol08:35
QuaruptThe following packages have unmet dependencies:08:35
Quarupt  fglrx-driver: Depends: xserver-xfree86 (>= 4.3)08:35
QuaruptE: Broken packages08:35
Quaruptso i need xfree86 to install the ATI modules for 3d accel?08:35
johnwlseriously if people would just follow the first half of that they would save a ton of time08:35
StudioGhibliDoes hoary install clean and neat on a IBM thinkpad? T41p.08:36
viper12that was the FIRST thing I did......after install......and read it through BEFORE install.08:36
xed_So.. the starter guide doesn't really tell me how to shut off my noisy fan.. =/08:36
StudioGhibliwithout tweaking around for a couple of days?08:36
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StudioGhiblixed: heh08:36
johnwlxed: WD40 :)08:36
jdubStudioGhibli: yes08:36
viper12studio.....if you've got the bandwidth..........why not download the array6 live cd and see?08:37
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xed_... that .. really wouldn't help me.08:37
tgaviper12: I seem to have universe in my hoary sources but I can't see anything newer than 2.6.808:37
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palebluehello08:37
xed_johnwl, wd40.. really wouldn't help me with that..08:37
Quaruptso...08:37
StudioGhiblijdub: nice :) i'd love that.08:37
Panzerboytga: that's because you've been a baaaaad boy :-)08:37
johnwlxed: my mini atx is noisy too08:37
StudioGhibliCan i copy my /home/username and stuff will work fine?08:37
tgahah, everyone knows that08:37
raggedgentlemanpaleblue, lo08:38
palebluecan anyone help me to change the resolution that gdm uses?08:38
StudioGhiblii'll try that first .if it does'nt work out, will rip it out.08:38
tgaStudioGhibli: if you run the same version apps yes08:38
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Quaruptanyone know why i cant find the Xorg fglrx package?08:38
viper12tga, I should the 2.6.10-4 kernel in the 'base' section..........are you using synaptic?08:38
thewolfWhen I use either the livecd or install cd the keyboard doesn't respond... what should I do?08:39
StudioGhiblithe ubuntu sources already have a 2.6.11 kernel?08:39
Quarupt?08:39
tgaviper12: for some reason synaptic won't show the Repositories dialog. I'm doing it the old fashioned way08:39
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StudioGhiblijdub: Does ubuntu run all spiffy on the thinkpad?08:39
xed_So.. no one bothered to explain as to how I could lower my .. or shut off my fan..08:39
jdubStudioGhibli: yes08:39
StudioGhibliyay08:40
viper12tga........when was the last time you updated stuff in hoary?08:40
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tgaxed_: what CPU do you have?08:40
johnwlthewolf: that happened to me (usb wireless keyboard) and i just plugged in an old ps2 keyboard to hit ENTER and then unplugged it and the wireless one worked the rest of the install08:40
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thewolfI'm not sure if the install cd freezes, should the cursor blink?08:40
tgaviper12: oh 5 minutes ago or so08:40
Slack_Roxhells the diff between the iso's in 4.10 and warty lol08:40
xedtga: P408:40
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viper12then apt-get reinstall the package manager, I'd say.......something sounds borked over there. :(08:40
thewolfjohnwl, I'll try that. I have had similar problems with USB keyboards and linux08:40
thewolfThanks, back soon if it fails and back much later if it works ;)08:41
xedtga, ?08:41
johnwlas soon as you hit enter unplug it and the usb one will probably work08:41
StudioGhiblionly 3% of the download done :/08:41
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viper12slack......what difference?  4.10 IS warty...maybe misunderstanding your question.08:41
tgaxed: you need to load a cpu frequency scaling module and then tell it to use a lower frequency08:42
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tgaxed: I only know how to do it on an AMD system08:42
Slack_Roxoh on the mirrors they have a 4.10 dir and warty dir with same .iso's it looks like08:42
xedtga: Damn.. damnit all08:42
xedThere's gotta be a way08:42
tgaviper12: kernel-image-2.6-k7: Depends: kernel-image-2.6.8-2-k7 but it is not installable08:42
thoreauputic_StudioGhibli: actually the nick is more about Civil Disobedience ;-)08:42
viper12k7?  what in gawds name do you want with a k7?  er.........tga, how hold is that box? lol08:43
StudioGhiblithoreauputic: :) i liked that book. -.-08:43
xedcrimsun, think you could help me out with this issue?08:43
Slack_RoxDont matter I'm pulling one now... gonna try it in vmware08:43
StudioGhiblithoreauputic: must've read it like 50 times.08:43
crimsunxed: which issue?08:43
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tgaviper12: afaik Athlons are K708:43
viper12no08:43
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tgaviper12: does this look sensible? deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary main restricted universe08:44
xedcrimsun, the fan.. its constantly running on my laptop... how do I make it so its silent....?08:44
viper12athlons (32bit processors) are 386/686 for the kernel.  the k7 is older chipset, and the amd64 processors require the amd specific kernel.08:44
crimsunxed: I'm not familiar w/ that; try searching the wiki08:44
EndGamexed, cut off all the fins08:44
johnwllol08:44
viper12tga, that looks right.08:44
viper12lemme check mine. just sec.08:44
Slack_Roxlol08:45
EndGameor just unplug it08:45
raggedgentlemanif something crashes on your sound device how do you free it back up?08:45
xedcrimsun, thank you08:45
raggedgentlemanwith out rebooting08:45
xedEndGame,  har dee har har08:45
EndGamewhat the hell do you need a fan in a laptop anyways08:45
raggedgentlemancuz i gots no sounds08:45
tgaviper12: just by the description, 686 is PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/P4.08:45
haydeni tried to install mplayer but it says it depends on libartsc0, libfribidi0 and other things, how do i update them?08:45
tgaviper12: and K7 is Duron/Athlon08:45
raggedgentlemanbut i did a minute agot08:45
xedEndGame, yeah! While I'm at it.. why not just DESTROY my laptop!08:45
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EndGamewhat processor is it running?08:45
xedInfact, I think I don't need a PC.. I'll just go kill myself08:45
xedEndGame, Pentium 4 2.8GHz08:46
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tgahayden: add "deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main" to your sources.list, then install mplayer08:46
EndGameshit, its not worth it08:46
viper12no tga.  686 is applicable for the amd 32bit processors (athlon).08:46
haydenk08:46
xedEndGame, what's not worth it?08:46
EndGamea pentium08:46
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crimsunhayden: read http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats08:46
EndGame:-)08:46
Mr_Milenkodoes anyone know where the GRUB binarie is in Ubuntu? im trying to setup webmin for it.. or is the binarie itself installed on the MBR?08:46
xeda pentium is not worth what?08:46
Slack_RoxKill yourself cause yer fan is too loud in laptop?08:46
EndGameanything08:46
Mr_Milenkobinary*08:46
Mr_Milenkodamn im tired08:46
raggedgentlemanhow do you kill all programs using a specific device08:46
crimsunhayden: pay close attention to the section regarding which repositories you need to add08:46
xedEndGame, extremist, aren't you?08:46
tgaMr_Milenko: `which grub`08:46
EndGamegentoo on amd08:47
haydenURI:            ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/08:47
haydenDistribution:   testing (use unstable here if you are using hoary)08:47
haydenSection(s):     main08:47
EndGamethat's where its at :-)08:47
crimsunhayden: repositorie_S_08:47
tgaraggedgentleman: find them with `lsof | grep devicename`08:47
EndGameone of my roomies is running ubuntu, though08:47
EndGameits really easy, and good for beginners, i suggest it to all my windows friends08:47
EndGameits just not for me08:47
Mr_Milenkothanks08:48
tgatrue, Ubuntu is easier than vanilla Debian because it comes with a working desktop08:48
haydencrimsun: should i put testing main or unstable main at the end of the line08:48
tgahayden: are you using warty or hoary?08:48
haydenwarty08:48
tgahayden: testing08:49
haydenok08:49
crimsunhayden: (you need the repo listed below that one, too)08:49
viper12just checked...........tga.....currently the 340m isn't working with 3d rendering, so I'm guessing that the 320m.........ain't either. sorry to see that. :(08:49
xedThis sucks08:49
crimsunhayden: (hence why I said repositorie_S_)08:49
thoreauputichayden: funnily enough you just posted your own answer a few lines up ;/08:49
raggedgentlemantga, yay it worked thankyou kind sir08:49
xedI REALLY need to find a way to lower this fan08:49
tgasynaptic: relocation error: synaptic: undefined symbol: _ZN10pkgAcquire3RunEi08:49
xedthis is getting too LOUD08:49
tgaaiiie :\08:50
haydencrimsun: soz, i dont understand what that means08:50
tgaxed: wait until it starts to melt08:50
tgaraggedgentleman: np, lsof is an useful tool08:50
xedtga: come on man =(08:50
crimsunhayden: there are two repositories you need to add. nerim.net is only one.08:50
xedI need to figure this out08:50
haydenok08:50
haydenand your one08:50
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raggedgentlemantga, and i never knew about him, so thnksX2 =oP08:50
QuaruptHow can i see what driver Xorg is using? to test if i set up this ati driver right08:51
haydenshould the line look like this: deb http://sh.nu/~crimsun/ ./08:51
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xedI don't see anything in the guide here which could help me..08:51
Quarupt...?08:52
Mr_Milenkois it possible to give GRUB a graphical menu?08:52
johnwllaptop fan thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1395408:52
tgaMr_Milenko: you can have a background picture, yes08:52
Mr_Milenkoi mean without re-installing08:52
crimsunhayden: yes, the directions are explicit08:52
Mr_Milenkowhat would i have to change08:52
tgaMr_Milenko: you would have to configure and run grub again.. I've never done it though08:53
QuaruptHow do i reconfigure Xorg?08:53
tgaQuarupt: vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf08:53
Quaruptno the script08:53
Quaruptwith dpkg08:53
tgadpkg-reconfigure xorg-something?08:53
thoreauputicsudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg08:53
Quaruptits like dpkg --reconfigure xorg or something08:53
Quaruptya08:54
xedCreated device node /dev/mwave .08:54
xedFATAL: Error inserting mwave (/lib/modules/2.6.8.1-3-386/kernel/drivers/char/mwave/mwave.ko): Input/output error08:54
xedStarting Mwave modem: (module mwave did not load) /etc/init.d/mwavem: error: /dev/mwave does not exist.  Exiting.08:54
xedinvoke-rc.d: initscript mwavem, action "start" failed.08:54
xeddpkg: error processing mwavem (--configure):08:54
xed subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 108:54
xedErrors were encountered while processing:08:54
xed mwavem08:54
thoreauputicxed: DIE08:54
xedE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)08:54
xedahhhh SHIT08:54
xedSorry sorry08:54
xedE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)08:54
xedI only meant to copy and paste that08:54
tgaxed: 1) paste in #flood 2) wtf is mwave?08:54
xedI don't know.. I wish I knew..08:54
xedThis is getting really complicated08:54
xedBut thats the error I'm getting .. repeatedly08:54
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xedTrying to install anything .. and thats what I get08:54
johnwldid you google mwave?08:55
Quarupthowto restart gdm?08:55
palebluecan someone help me to set the resolution that gdm uses? the logon screen displays in a high res and it's only when gnome starts that I get my chosen 1024x768... also I've been trying to use fluxbox but it uses the higher resolution set by gdm08:55
Quarupthowto restart gdm?08:55
tgaQuarupt: /etc/init.d/gdm restart08:55
thoreauputicQuarupt: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart08:55
tgaor just ctrl+alt+backspace in gdm08:56
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tgaI keep forgetting about the sudo part, I just sudo su in an xterm08:56
thoreauputicQuarupt: you've been told this before i think - keep notes?08:56
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johnwlor just visit THE STARTER GUIIDE :)08:56
QuaruptNo i havent actually08:56
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Anubisgdm is broken08:57
Anubisit wont install08:57
Anubisit is linked to ubuntu artwork pacakge08:57
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tgaAnubis: are you dist-upgrading by any chance?08:58
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thoreauputictga: copy paste into a text editor is one way :) I have  file called "remeberthis.txt" ;-)08:58
thoreauputicdoh *remember08:59
xedHow do I go about mounting my other partition?08:59
xedWait wait08:59
xedThis is probably in the starter guide08:59
johnwllol08:59
proi have a bot i tell him to remember stuff for me08:59
thoreauputichehe08:59
palebluexed: what kind of partition is it?08:59
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tgaa trouble ticket bot would be interesting on bigger support chans09:00
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=== tga keeps searching for a 2.6.10 kernel-image
crimsuntga: linux-image09:00
xedpaleblue, ntfs09:00
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thoreauputicactually a channel bot would be useful for repeated questions (like configuring X)09:00
weezi got my mouse working...one more question...i'm having trouble mounting my windows partition....09:00
crimsuntga: kernel-image => Debian. linux-image => Ubuntu09:00
tgad'oh09:01
johnwldid that thread help weez?09:01
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tgathanks crimsun, that really helped09:01
weeznot really...i had resatarted my computer numerous imes before asking you guys for help...but when I restarted my computer the last time, my mouse suddenly worked...i don't know what happed.09:01
johnwlsometimes you just have to accept it and move on lol09:02
Quaruptokay, i installed the Glfrx module or whatever and now im stuck in like 800x600 and it wont let me change it?09:02
EndGameand you dont need to know09:02
weezwanna help me out in accessing my mp3's on my windows partition?09:02
EndGamejust know that it works and be thankful, right09:02
EndGamewhat is this? windows?09:02
weezi'll be good to go after that...09:02
QuaruptI can see like 4 lines in xchat09:02
tgaweez: sure, apt-get install proftpd09:02
Quaruptanyone know why this might be happening?09:02
crimsunI generally recommend vsftpd over proftpd, but that's just preference.09:02
Quaruptmaybe i just need to go back to the plain ati driver09:03
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johnwlweez: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#windows09:03
Quaruptso no one else has had this problem with the gl ati driver?09:03
tgaQuarupt: check your X logs09:04
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prohey uMkulu09:04
Quaruptthe error says x server doesnt support RandR or something09:04
prouMkulu, what is ubuntu?09:04
uMkulupro: no idea09:04
Quaruptim gunna switch it back to the ati driver09:04
tgamain CPU turn on !! `cat cpuinfo_max_freq > scaling_max_freq`09:05
weezi have vsftpd now...now what?09:05
johnwldid you see the link i posted?09:05
haydenhow come when i tell mplayer to go full screen the video stays the same size09:05
prouMkulu, ubuntu is a high tech linux distribution based on the GNU/Debian linux, but more upto date and user friendly09:05
uMkuluOK, pro.09:05
tgaweez: oh man, that was a joke.. ftpd is useful for running a ftp over the net (for, like, sharing your mp3s with me)09:05
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prouMkulu, what is ubuntu?09:05
uMkului guess ubuntu is a high tech linux distribution based on the GNU/Debian linux, but more upto date and user friendly09:05
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monoxidei currently have a hoary install that was updated from a warty install but there are some things that are not wokring quite right. is there a way to install hoary again once i get the final cd release with the same packages i have installed now?09:05
tgahayden: try mplayer -zoom movie.avi09:06
johnwlhttp://www.ubuntuguide.org/#windows09:06
thoreauputicpro: aha, the bot has arrived!09:06
progeiabonga, spallie09:06
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haydenim using the gui though09:06
tgaI haven't seen the gui in years09:06
weezokay..i have it mounted..but they're all .mdm files...i don't know what these are...that's been my problem09:06
proyeah, and the word ubuntu is Zulu, and in Zulu uMkulu is "Chief"09:06
Jeezisanyone here know how i can use knoppix to set up ubuntu?09:06
weezi figured I had mounted the wrong hda or something...but i tried all of them09:06
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raggedgentlemanpro, whats wrong with you?09:07
tgaJeezis: it is probably easier to get an Ubuntu CD09:07
FASTwhats the quick way to sharpen an image in the gimp ?09:07
raggedgentlemanpro, do you always spread your knowledge this way?!09:07
proraggedgentleman, nothing? i got some sleep last night09:08
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tgaFAST: you may have better luck on irc.gimp.net, #gimp09:08
profirst time in over 3 months i slept for longer then 5 hours09:08
Quaruptso much for Gl ATI driver09:08
proFAST, try this....09:08
Quaruptguess no #D support for me09:08
Quarupt:(09:08
tgaQuarupt: check your xorg.conf for modes and your logs for any errors09:08
raggedgentlemanpro, u scary me, i though you a bot =o)09:09
Quarupti set the modes09:09
monoxidei currently have a hoary install that was updated from a warty install but there are some things that are not wokring quite right. is there a way to install hoary again once i get the final cd release with the same packages i have installed now? i dont mind losing my config files, but i want all my current sw installed09:09
proopen layers, duplicate the layer, and set the type to overlay, then add a new black layer, put it between the 2 layers and then make it overlay too09:09
Quarupti know what modes were there09:09
prothen CTRL+M to merge and done09:09
Quaruptwhat logs?09:09
tgamonoxide: what's wrong with your Hoary?09:09
crimsunmonoxide: dpkg -l  lists all packages currently installed09:09
johnwlsounds like a personal question09:09
proraggedgentleman, i get that often.... in real life too09:10
tgaQuarupt:  /var/log/Xorg.0.log09:10
pro8)09:10
viper12tga:  just went over some more info on the different processor kernels......and this is the generally accepted kernel processor branching:09:10
viper12 1. sudo apt-get install linux-686 for newer Intel/AthlonXP09:10
viper122. sudo apt-get install linux-k7 for any AMD Processors09:10
viper123. sudo apt-get install linux-686-smp for Dual Intel Processors09:10
weezwell, i don't have any mp3's on this partition in the first place09:10
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Quaruptcan i grep that with (EE)09:10
Quarupt?09:10
johnwlsudo apt-get install commodore6409:10
tgaviper12: alright, I'll go with 686 then09:10
monoxideseveral programs segfault on load, had troubles with sound and things like gnome crashing09:10
weezhow do I get rid of vftpd?09:10
tgaweez: apt-get remove vsftpd09:10
monoxidecrimsun, any way to load that list back in?09:10
weezthanks09:11
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proweez dpkg --purge vftpd09:11
monoxideother than manually09:11
viper12the k7 will work, but the 'new' amd xp line......ra-posedly s'posed to be better.......yer mileage may vary.  ;)09:11
crimsunmonoxide: with some shell magic, yes09:11
proand i think its actually vsftpd09:11
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Quaruptnot one line with (EE)09:11
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thoreauputicuMkulu, drx is reconfigure X with sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 ( or xserver-xorg in Hoary)09:12
tgaQuarupt: are you sure your config is right then? try to ctrl+alt+PAD_+09:12
uMkuluOK, thoreauputic.09:12
viper12time to crawl towards the bed. take care all.09:12
weezit never installed it anyway...anyway, you guys know what the hell an mdm file is...i have my file system mounted...however...i don't recognize any of them09:12
thoreauputicuMkulu: what is drx09:12
Quaruptwtf is PAD_+09:12
uMkului think drx is reconfigure X with sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 ( or xserver-xorg in Hoary)09:12
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thoreauputichmm - good bot, uMkulu09:13
uMkuluthanks thoreauputic :)09:13
thoreauputichaha09:13
Quaruptoh fast res switching09:13
raggedgentlemanpro, no i just wanted to play with the bot =o)09:13
Quaruptcool09:13
tgaweez: try `file foo.mdm`09:13
johnwlweez: check this thread if that doesnt work http://64.233.187.104/search?q=cache:EIjrKTnXwDkJ:ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-385.html+ubuntu+windows+partition+&hl=en&start=509:14
johnwlgood god thats an ugly url09:14
tgawww.tinyurl.co09:14
tgawww.tinyurl.com rather09:14
proraggedgentleman, uMkulu is the bot, go mad09:14
mpqokay, there is definitely something wrong with my computer09:15
goldfish_is it gay?09:15
mpqapart from that09:15
goldfish_lol09:15
mpqI can't use irc and firefox at the same time for some reason09:15
tga2.6.11-1-686, here I go09:15
monoxideheh09:15
mpqwhen I open irc, it decides that there aren't any websites on the internet09:15
tgamy brain does that too09:15
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johnwlmaybe you installed palmOS09:16
mpqbut irc works perfectly09:16
raggedgentlemancould it be a firewall thingy?09:16
mpqI don't see why09:16
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mpqI've never had trouble before today09:16
raggedgentlemanwhat did you do today?09:17
raggedgentlemanstarting from when you woke =o)09:17
monoxidehosts file?09:17
weezugh..i'll sort it out tomorrow. thanks anyways guys!09:17
mpqI didn't really did anything09:17
mpqI was browsing09:17
mpqthen I checked irc09:17
mpqand now I can't access any websites09:18
monoxidempq, what sort of connection are you on?09:18
johnwldid you try killing the processes for both and then restarting?09:18
mpqcable09:18
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Quarupttga, heres the error09:19
tgagreat, Ubuntu is taking exactly 50% of my 5.6G root partition09:19
mpqit occured to me that I've had trouble with this connection before09:19
monoxideso i dont suppose its possible that irc is hogging your bandwidth? :/09:19
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Jentoo000yay i just installed ubuntu and im on it09:19
Jentoo000it looks really impressive09:19
tgalol monoxide09:19
mpqit hasn't done this before09:19
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haydenhow do i mount a network share with samba on boot?09:19
thoreauputicuMkulu, guide is the unofficial Ubuntu guide at http://ubuntuguide.org - for help with restricted formats, mplayer and all manner of other helpful stuff...09:19
uMkuluOK, thoreauputic.09:19
johnwlgrats jentoo09:19
monoxideapt as well...09:19
tgahayden: you stick it in /etc/fstab09:20
thoreauputicuMkulu: guide09:20
uMkulurumour has it guide is the unofficial Ubuntu guide at http://ubuntuguide.org - for help with restricted formats, mplayer and all manner of other helpful stuff09:20
haydeni tried that but it didnt work09:20
QuaruptThe X Server does not support the XRandR extension.  Runtime resolution changes to the display size are not available.09:20
thoreauputicright09:20
tgahayden: iirc file system type "smbfs"09:20
johnwlnow spam that every 2 minutes Umkulu09:20
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Quaruptwtf09:20
monoxidehayden, with /etc/fstab, the type of the mount is smbfs09:20
haydenok09:20
Quaruptman and i have 3d Acell to, but im stuck in this weak ass res09:20
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Jentoo000how do i check my hard drive, and how much room i got left, i forgot the command it for dh -h or something09:20
tgaJentoo000: df -h09:20
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tgaJentoo000: aka disk free09:20
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Quarupttga, so ya know what i should try now, can ya look at my config maybe?09:21
Jentoo000whats tmpfs09:21
haydenwill try this now09:21
tgaQuarupt: dump it in #flood and I'll take a look09:21
Jentoo000it doesnt show my swap09:21
johnwlJentoo: or applications>system tools>system monitor09:21
zenroxJentoo000,  swap in a way09:21
Quaruptthanks09:21
monoxideJentoo000, df09:21
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Jentoo000 /dev/shm09:21
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plxanyone setup networking with a vmware virtual machine in ubuntu?09:21
offbyoneHola09:21
uMkuluhola, offbyone09:21
Jentoo000whats that? my win98?09:21
Quarupttga, uh wheres xorg keep it again?09:21
tgaQuarupt: /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:22
offbyoneSo: /me just decided, what the hell, why not try Haory.09:22
Quaruptthx09:22
offbyones/Haory/Hoary09:22
offbyoneAnd...09:22
offbyoneNo more DRI09:22
offbyone-> 3D things are gone now.09:22
offbyone(Cursed X.org :)09:22
offbyoneAnyone know how to make it work? I have a mobility Radeon, and under Warty I had good 3D performance.09:23
offbyoneNow, glxgears looks like I could draw it faster.09:23
thoreauputicuMkulu, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats , for help with setting up java, flash, mp3 and video09:23
uMkuluOK, thoreauputic.09:23
Jentoo000lol i only got 1.7 GBS left :P09:23
thoreauputicuMkulu: restricted09:23
uMkulurestricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats , for help with setting up java, flash, mp3 and video09:23
tgaJentoo000: Giga BS?09:23
Jentoo000giga09:24
Jentoo000im connected to a router how can i look into my other computer through the router?09:24
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offbyoneI can provide dmesg/xorg logs/etc...09:24
Jentoo000?09:25
offbyonethe xorg logs show DRI: yes, the glxinfo shows it "no"09:25
Jentoo000do i use samba to communicate with the other computer09:25
Jentoo000?09:25
monoxideoffbyone, i dont have dri either i dont think09:25
offbyoneI have agpgart, intel_agp, and radeon modules loaded.09:25
johnwlJentoo: think so..not my area of expertise tho09:25
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zenroxJentoo000,  go to www.ubuntuguide.org for info and any thang09:25
johnwlhttp://www.ubuntuguide.org/#sambaserver09:26
monoxideJentoo000, is it a linux or a windows box?09:26
Jentoo000im using ubuntu now my other computer is XP09:26
musthiiii....gabung yuk !09:26
monoxidesamba is your best bet then09:26
Quarupttga, its in #flood09:26
Quaruptits too big09:26
Quaruptmaybe i should use pastebin09:26
zenroxyep samba is easy to set up09:26
Quarupttga, ya see enough or ya need the whole thing?09:26
monoxideyou CAN get nfs for windows... but its probably not worth it09:27
thoreauputicpro: is there a shortcut for the bot? like ! or @ ?09:27
thoreauputic!restricted09:27
mustthank yuor09:27
thoreauputicnope09:27
thoreauputic@restricted09:27
thoreauputichmm OK09:28
Jentoo000maybe samba is already installed how do i find out09:28
thoreauputicuMkulu: restricted09:28
uMkulusomebody said restricted was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats , for help with setting up java, flash, mp3 and video09:28
thoreauputicOK that'll do I guess09:28
zenroxJentoo000, read http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#sambaserver09:28
zenroxJentoo000, and also look for mounting windows partions in ubuntu09:29
Jentoo000what is smbfs09:31
Jentoo000i just apt-getted samba its downloading at the moment09:31
thoreauputicsamba file system09:31
Jentoo000ok09:31
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zenroxthats how linux knows its a networked file system09:31
Jentoo000so i have to apt-get that as well09:32
zenroxyes09:32
zenroxusualy you can do apt-get install app1 app2 etc....09:32
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zenroxthat way you dont have to ap-get so ofton09:33
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zenroxerrr apt-get09:33
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Jentoo000im going to install emule09:34
zenroxis that ubuntuguide.org what you wanted09:34
Jentoo000:) yes09:35
zenroxgood09:35
zenroxhehehehehe09:35
thoreauputicuMkulu, howto is http://www.ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=15 for a listing of useful howtos and frequently asked questions09:35
uMkuluOK, thoreauputic.09:35
zenroxgot quiet all of a suddon09:35
thoreauputicuMkulu: howto09:35
uMkuluit has been said that howto is http://www.ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=15 for a listing of useful howtos and frequently asked questions09:35
QuaruptATTENTION anyone in here with a 9600 series readeon card with the fglrx module working?09:36
zenroxwriting a bot09:36
Quaruptplease09:36
Jentoo000i dont even know my XP's username :P09:36
tgaACHTUNG09:36
zenroxthoreauputic, writing a bot09:36
zenroxJentoo000, the name you login with on winxp09:37
Jentoo000yes09:37
QuaruptI really wanna get this working09:37
thoreauputiczenrox: it's pro's bot - I'm teaching it some keywords09:37
Jentoo000your_system_username09:37
zenroxQuarupt, check #ati09:37
Madeyeguys, I'm setting up a weekly cron job to download backup for about 70 website on my server, now what I want to do, to compare if the backup file has any changes to download it, so I will save some bandwidth with backup that didn't changes. any idea How to do it ? the comparision ?09:37
QuaruptHelp im stuck in 800x600 trying the fglrx driver for ATI 960009:37
thoreauputicMadeye: look at rsync09:38
Jentoo000how do i find my network username and the your_system_username09:38
zenroxJentoo000, your_system_username= winxp login name09:38
Jentoo000Administrator i suppose09:38
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zenroxJentoo000, that will work09:38
Jentoo000didnt work ...09:39
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Jentoo000Failed to initialise SAM_ACCOUNT for user Administrator. Does this user exist in the UNIX password database ?09:39
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Jentoo000dont know09:39
zenroxya the user anem of your linux box09:40
zenroxname09:40
Jentoo000oh lol09:40
Madeyethanks thoreauputic09:40
Quaruptwell #ati is dead09:40
zenroxsetting up the server right09:40
Jentoo000whats SMB?09:40
Jentoo000yes09:40
Quarupti would really like to figure this one out09:40
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goldfish_Jentoo000: smb = samba09:40
zenroxuse the username of your linux box09:40
zenroxthat your using right now09:40
monoxideSMB = samba09:40
Jentoo000oh lol im such a newb why do i have to keep writing sudo what does it do?09:41
zenroxsudo so you can run thangs in a root session09:41
goldfish_Because you touch yourself at night?09:42
tgaJentoo000: if you want a root shell do `sudo su`09:42
tgaJentoo000: the root account has no password by default09:42
zenroxor sudo -s and type your userpass09:42
Jentoo000"your network username" dont know :(09:42
Quarupttga09:42
tgaQuarupt09:42
Quaruptno luck for me yet09:42
tgasame here, I just grabbed 2.6.11 and trying again09:43
Quaruptwanna look at my logs still09:43
Quarupthey guys whats the pastebin site?09:43
zenroxpastebin.com09:43
Quaruptpastebin.net?09:43
thoreauputicuMkulu: drivers is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto , for HOWTOs on ATI and Nvidia drivers in Ubuntu09:43
tgad'oh, there's no 2.6.11 fglrx module09:43
uMkuluOK, thoreauputic.09:43
Quaruptokay09:43
Jentoo000do i have to create a new network user first?09:43
zenroxno09:43
Jentoo000in order to edit the smb file09:43
thoreauputicuMkulu: drivers09:43
uMkuludrivers is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto , for HOWTOs on ATI and Nvidia drivers in Ubuntu09:43
Jentoo000because i dont know my network username09:44
zenroxyour username =networkname09:44
Quaruptwhere does xorg keep its log again?09:44
Jentoo000ok..09:44
zenroxQuarupt, /var/log09:44
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Jentoo000is my systems username ubuntu because it says on my terminal @ubuntu09:44
Quaruptand whats the file called again?09:45
zenroxJentoo000,  are you using the livecd09:45
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Jentoo000zenrox: no i just installed ubuntu :)09:45
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Jentoo000it took a while :S09:45
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zenroxJentoo000,  why did you chouse ubuntu as a username09:45
thoreauputicuMkulu: dw is Look, "doesn't work" seems to be a common error message, but I've never seen it: Can you be a bit more specific about what's happening?09:46
uMkuluthoreauputic: no idea09:46
goldfish_lol09:46
Jentoo000i only have 1.7 gigs of space, so id like to put my stuff on my XP comp 100 gigs09:46
thoreauputichmm09:46
thoreauputicuMkulu,  dw is Look, "doesn't work" seems to be a common error message, but I've never seen it: Can you be a bit more specific about what's happening?09:46
uMkului don't know, thoreauputic09:46
kzmHi and good morning09:46
tgaJentoo000: make sure you have a fat32 partition, writing on NTFS can cause problems09:46
Jentoo000zenrox: my username is my name but the guide says edit smbusers, and it says  your_system_username = "your network username"09:46
kzmAnybody else have problems with mplayer from marillat?09:46
kzm(on warty)09:46
thoreauputic? restricted09:46
zenroxya you use your username09:47
Jentoo000is my system username my loging?09:47
zenroxJentoo000, yes09:47
Jentoo000so its (username) = (username)09:47
thoreauputicOK that isn't the synatax problem...09:47
QuaruptTGA, or anyone else who might be able to help09:47
zenroxno you keep your_system_username=09:47
Quarupthttp://pastebin.com/24913309:48
Jentoo000why09:48
TomArayaHello09:48
uMkuluhello, TomAraya09:48
thoreauputicuMkulu, dw is Doesn't Work (tm) doesn't tell us much - can you be more specific, please09:48
uMkului haven't a clue, thoreauputic09:48
thoreauputichrmph09:48
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zenroxthats how it knows that systemuers name = your username09:48
thoreauputicuMkulu: drivers09:49
uMkuluit has been said that drivers is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto , for HOWTOs on ATI and Nvidia drivers in Ubuntu09:49
Jentoo000exactly i wrote (username) = (username)09:49
zenroxno09:49
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Quaruptthoreauputic, i followed that, i am having a very different error09:49
TomArayaI found this really good Linux FAQ for newbs like me at work, it was totally making everything click.. when I went back to my computer later on it crashed though and now I can't find it.09:49
zenroxyou keep your_system_username =09:49
Quarupttga, ya still with me?09:49
tgaQuarupt: yeah, downgrading to 2.6.10-4 atm09:50
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monoxideJentoo000, example:     Jentoo = "WindowsUser"09:50
thoreauputicuMkulu,  dw is Doesn't Work (tm) doesn't tell us much - can you be more specific, please09:50
uMkuluthoreauputic: no idea09:50
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zenroxyou keep your_system_username = (usernam)09:50
TomArayaI guess you pretty much have to learn your way around Bash if you're going ot run Linux though, huh?09:50
thoreauputicwtf09:50
zenroxmonoxide,  no09:50
waseemhi do any of you guys recommend a good media player for movies...wmv, mpeg, etc.09:50
waseemtotem doesnt seem to be working for me09:51
TomArayawaseem, everyone seems to recommend Mplayer.09:51
waseemoh ok thanks09:51
monoxidewaseem, mplayer09:51
zenroxgxine09:51
thoreauputicuMkulu, dw is well, doesn't work doesn't tell us much. Can you be a bit more specific?09:51
uMkuluthoreauputic: wish i knew09:51
schasiwaseem: what did you do to get totem working? What does it fail in?09:51
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thoreauputicthe bot is refusing to co-operate09:51
thoreauputicuMkulu: bad bot !09:52
uMkuluthoreauputic: i'm not following you...09:52
goldfish_lol09:52
zenroxthoreauputic,  slap it09:52
Quarupttga, so ya dont have time to look, or are ya doing this, just to see if when you try you have a simmilar problem?09:52
thoreauputicno, you aren't09:52
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zenroxuMkulu, bad bod09:52
uMkuluzenrox: excuse me?09:52
zenroxuMkulu, bad bot09:52
uMkuluzenrox: what?09:52
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goldfish_uMkulu: asl?09:52
uMkulugoldfish_: bugger all, i dunno09:52
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zenroxlol09:53
monoxidelol09:53
zenroxuMkulu,  bad bot is when you sit down09:53
uMkuluOK, zenrox.09:53
zenroxuMkulu, bad bot09:53
uMkului heard bad bot was when you sit down09:53
thoreauputichey, why is it listening to zenrox?09:54
zenroxdont know09:54
goldfish_lol09:54
goldfish_Because you touch yourself at night?09:54
zenroxno09:54
zenroxjust uMkulu09:54
thoreauputicuMkulu,  dw is well, doesn't work doesn't tell us much. Can you be a bit more specific?09:55
Quarupttga, how ya doing?09:55
uMkului don't know, thoreauputic09:55
thoreauputichmm09:55
tgaQuarupt: same old09:55
goldfish_uMkulu,  dw is well, doesn't work doesn't tell us much.09:55
uMkuluOK, goldfish_.09:55
goldfish_*sigh*09:55
tgadoes anyone know if the Warty CD include 2.6.8 kernel sources?09:55
goldfish_uMkulu: dw09:55
uMkuluit has been said that dw is well, doesn't work doesn't tell us much.09:55
goldfish_uMkulu,  dw is well, doesn't work doesn't tell us much.09:55
uMkului already had it that way, goldfish_.09:55
goldfish_gah09:55
thoreauputicgoldfish_: OK, it doesn't like me any more09:55
thoreauputic:(09:55
zenroxuMkulu, dw is well, doesn't work doesn't tell us much. Can you be a bit more specific?09:55
TomArayauMkulu, bad bot09:55
uMkuluno idea, zenrox09:55
uMkului heard bad bot was when you sit down09:55
Quarupttga, ya think i should give up?09:55
pignujust what are you all doing, with the bot?09:55
tgaQuarupt: never :)09:55
goldfish_uMkulu,  dw is well, doesn't work doesn't tell us much.09:56
uMkului already had it that way, goldfish_.09:56
Quaruptwell i dunno what to do09:56
Jentoo000it says Replace with the following line09:56
Jentoo000   security = user replace it with what?09:56
tgadoes the Warty CD include 2.6.8 kernel sources?09:56
thoreauputicmaybe it's the ?09:56
zenroxuMkulu, dw is well  doesn't work doesn't tell us much. Can you be a bit more specific?09:56
Quarupti have to chose 3d accel or higher res's09:56
uMkului haven't a clue, zenrox09:56
goldfish_ uMkulu, dw is well, doesn't work doesn't tell us much. Can you be a bit more specific?09:56
uMkuluno idea, goldfish_09:56
thoreauputiczenrox: could be it09:56
zenroxuMkulu, dw is well doesn't work doesn't tell us much. Can you be a bit more specific?09:56
Quarupti defenitly cant stay in 800x60009:56
uMkului haven't a clue, zenrox09:56
goldfish_ uMkulu, dw is well, doesn't work doesn't tell us much. Can you be a bit more specific.09:56
uMkulu...but dw is well, doesn't work doesn't tell us much....09:56
tgaok, let's try something else09:56
Quaruptok09:56
tgagah, stop torturing the bot09:56
thoreauputicuMkulu, dw is well doesn't work doesn't tell us much. Can you be a bit more specific...09:56
TomArayaPoor bot.09:56
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tgadoes anyone have a Warty CD handy?09:57
uMkulu...but dw is well, doesn't work doesn't tell us much....09:57
Quarupti have the logs on pastebin if ya wanna se09:57
TomArayaHi uMkulu.09:57
tgaQuarupt: alright09:57
QuaruptI do09:57
thoreauputichaha09:57
goldfish_ uMkulu, dw is also well, doesn't work doesn't tell us much. Can you be a bit more specific.09:57
uMkuluokay, goldfish_.09:57
Quarupti have 450 of them in my bag09:57
TomArayaThe bot hates me.09:57
goldfish_uMkulu: dw09:57
uMkului heard dw was well, doesn't work doesn't tell us much. or well, doesn't work doesn't tell us much. Can you be a bit more specific.09:57
thoreauputicOK it won't change it09:57
zenroxwe need to tourcher the bot in a differnt chanel09:57
goldfish_lol09:57
Jentoo000?09:57
TomArayaHi.09:57
TomArayaHello.09:57
QuaruptBut im running Hoary09:57
goldfish_hi09:57
Jentoo000can anyone help09:57
uMkuluprivet, goldfish_09:57
TomArayaOh, no period.09:57
thoreauputicuMkulu: forget dw09:57
TomArayaHello09:57
uMkuluthoreauputic: I forgot dw09:57
Quarupttga, can we talk in PM cause i can only see like 7 lines at a time in this res09:57
tgalol, ok09:58
thoreauputic uMkulu, dw is  well, doesn't work doesn't tell us much. Can you be a bit more specific.09:58
uMkuluOK, thoreauputic.09:58
zenroxthare09:58
goldfish_woo09:58
neomwoohooo!09:58
zenroxi had the right idea09:58
thoreauputicthe ? is the problem09:58
neomI got my htaccess provlem fixed. :D09:58
neom:D:D:D:D:D:09:58
thoreauputicuMkulu: dw09:58
uMkului think dw is well, doesn't work doesn't tell us much. Can you be a bit more specific.09:58
thoreauputicok09:58
zenroxgood09:58
zenroxok whats next09:59
thoreauputicuMkulu: congratulations09:59
uMkuluthoreauputic: i'm not following you...09:59
thoreauputichahe09:59
thoreauputicuMkulu: good bot09:59
uMkulu:)09:59
zenroxuMkulu, congratulations is you poor the wine09:59
uMkuluOK, zenrox.09:59
Jentoo000hmm guess its working09:59
zenroxuMkulu, congratulations10:00
uMkului think congratulations is you poor the wine10:00
Jentoo000Processing section "[printers] "10:00
Jentoo000it said stuff like that10:00
pignuJentoo000: just what are you setting up?10:00
thoreauputiczenrox: that should be "pour" I think10:00
zenroxuMkulu, forget congratulations10:00
uMkuluzenrox: I forgot congratulations10:00
zenroxuMkulu, congratulations is you pour the wine10:01
uMkuluOK, zenrox.10:01
zenroxuMkulu, congratulations10:01
uMkului heard congratulations was you pour the wine10:01
zenroxthx10:01
QuaruptHow can i check my Xorg version?10:01
tgaand this is how bots get banned10:01
tgaQuarupt: Xorg -version10:01
thoreauputictga: true, it should be taught elsewhere10:02
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zenroxthoreauputic,  thats what i was saying10:02
thoreauputicOK we should give it a rest I guess ;-)10:02
tgacan't you just msg the thing?10:02
plxthe gnome developers must have been stoned when they changed nautilus to the "the window is the folder"-paradigm.. (glad it's possible to turn it off)10:03
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zenroxthoreauputic,  ya the poor little egg10:03
thoreauputictga: I'll try it10:03
tgauMkulu: what is mumu?10:03
uMkulumumu is good10:03
Xerhi guys10:03
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tgayeah, it works, go teach it in private10:03
Xeranyone know good script to make alive cd for ubuntu?10:04
Xer:)10:04
Xer...10:04
binskipy2k5anyone here ever use/try simplyMephis or gentooo in their linux experience10:05
pignuhmm, Xer, I think your best shot is to look on how it, they created the one that exists.10:05
Xeri tryed10:05
Jentoo000it says here  replace this  security = user what do i replace it with?10:05
Xeri broked my unbutnu 4times ;)10:05
goldfish_lol10:06
Xernow i reinstaleld it10:06
Xerand i need a good script10:06
Xerall shuted up!10:07
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pignuXer What your looking for dont exist I belive.. just a script and it just works.10:07
Xeri know10:07
Xeri found alots of scripts10:07
Xerand its need anthers packjes10:07
Xerand sameone that pakjs dont work with me10:08
TomArayaCan anyone recommend a good RTS free RTS game for linux?10:08
Xer[they need Anrthers pakjs to] 10:08
Xerantheres*10:08
waseemmy mplayer plugin isnt working, and neither is mplayer10:08
waseemcan anyone here help me out?10:08
Xermplayer?10:09
waseemya10:09
Xerreinstall it ;)10:09
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waseemit came with ubuntu, and im new with linux...i still barely know how to install a program10:10
waseemanyone want to walk me through the reinstallation process?10:10
Xerwaseeem10:11
Xerwait after 1 week10:11
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Xerim thinking after my exams finshed to make a guid for ubuntu ;)10:11
waseemcan anyone here help?10:12
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Jeezishell yeah, got x running10:13
pignuwaseem: what you trying todo?10:13
Jeezisjust default configuration, but it runs10:13
Jentoo000dam didnt work10:13
waseeminstall mplayer10:13
Xer???? ??? ???? ???? ????????10:13
thoreauputicuMkulu: restricted10:13
uMkuluhmmm... restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats , for help with setting up java, flash, mp3 and video10:13
Xeranswer  waseem10:14
Xer???? ??? ???? ???? ????????10:14
thoreauputicwaseem: ^^10:14
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waseemits restricted though...10:14
Xeri think you didnt doo it ;)10:14
Xerdid you added arabic to your linux?10:14
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pignuwaseem: how you trying to install it?10:15
Xerdpkg -i10:15
waseemfirst i need to download it10:15
Xeror from compuer10:15
waseemxer are you talking to me?10:15
Xersys * cionfig10:15
Xeryes10:15
haydenhow do i auto open a video file with mplayer from the gnome file browser?10:15
waseemya thats what i need to know10:15
Xerlol10:15
tgahow can I see the list of files installed by a package?10:15
Xerwaseem do u know how to goo and open synpatic manger ?10:16
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Xeryou will find your answer in that proggram :)10:16
waseemyes10:16
waseemok thanks10:16
Xertga10:17
Roccomay somebody help my according lm_sensors?10:17
Xeryour answer too in synpatic apps manger :)10:17
Roccomay somebody help my according lm_sensors?10:18
brosioanyone have ubuntu amd64 con nvidia 6600 pci-x ?10:18
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pignuRocco: well, you could give more feedback what your trying todo, and read documentation for lmsensors.10:19
haydenhow do i auto open a video file with mplayer from the gnome file browser?10:19
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Roccowell, on booting i get an error like "make sure that /sys is mountet or try modprobe i2c_sensor"10:21
Rocco/sys is mounted, but how can i modprobe something during booting? and even if i modprobe it after booting, "gDesklets" even doesn't work10:21
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monoxidedpkg -l seems to cut off part of the package names for some packages... anyway to fix this?10:22
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Jentoo000yay it worked, i can share stuff to my dads stuff :D10:23
Roccoany idea pingu?10:23
Jentoo000how can i look into my dads computer and put stuff on his computer off my comp?10:23
tgayou little haxx0r10:23
haydenlol10:24
haydentga10:24
haydenhow do i auto open a video file with mplayer from the gnome file browser?10:24
Jentoo000:P, i want to access my stuff on my dads computer how can i do that?10:24
QuaruptAnyone know how to switch the opengl interface?10:24
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plxsamba mangles filenames at special (german) characters like . how can i fix this?10:27
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Quaruptwheres the damn xorg.conf again?10:27
Jentoo000which ones for linux source code or binaries?10:28
Jentoo000....10:28
PlukQuarupt, in /etc/X11/10:29
Quaruptthx10:29
haydenok im stupid10:31
Pluklol how come10:32
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monoxidewhat is kubuntu?10:33
waseemHi i seem to be having a problem with mplayer and totem, mplayer won't even open or run, and totem isnt playing any of the movies.10:35
Plukubuntu based on kde10:35
waseemdoes anyone know what i can do?10:35
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monoxidePluk, cant you get that just by uninstalling gnome and installing kde?10:36
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Plukmonoxide, yes but with kubuntu you just do a full install and get kde10:36
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monoxidesome people are lazy... :P10:37
Pluki thought there was some better kde interaction between progs too then there is possible now with ubuntu and kde10:37
thewolfHello, I installed Ubuntu, but after the install it tries to load x, but fails.10:38
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thewolfI'm using a Radeon 9200SE10:38
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thewolfWhat could be wrong?10:38
haydenwhen i choose full screen in mplayer, the video doesn't stretch to the full screen, can anyone tell me how to fix this10:39
waseemmplayer wont even open for me10:39
waseemcan anyone help me with that?10:39
Jentoo000how do i unzip a .zip file :S10:40
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Plukwaseem, try mplayer in a terminal that will give you more info10:40
waseempluk: i did that10:40
monoxidewhat does mplayer say when you try to run it?10:40
waseemit doesnt say anything10:40
waseemit just doesnt open10:40
monoxideJentoo000, unzip <filename> ;)10:40
thewolfwaseem, when you run it from the terminal, does it say anything?10:41
Xerwaseem , do like i told you10:41
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Xerreboooooot10:41
waseemthewolf: it just gives you information about mplayer10:41
waseemno error messages or anything10:41
thewolfAnyone help me? :(10:41
Xerha?10:41
plxhayden: same here, it works with totem though..10:42
Plukhayden, edit .mplayer/configand add: vo=xv10:42
waseemthewolf: i found one problem, Reading config file /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf10:42
waseemWarning unknown option skin at line 5010:42
waseemReading config file /root/.mplayer/config10:42
waseemReading /root/.mplayer/codecs.conf: Can't open '/root/.mplayer/codecs.conf': No such file or directory10:42
haydenok thanks10:42
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Xerlol10:43
haydenwhere is .mplayer10:43
Jentoo000im trying to ./configure and im root and it doesnt let me :( permission denied?10:43
Xeryou dont have codes10:43
thewolfanyone?10:43
Plukhayden, if vo=xv doesnt work remove that line and add zoom=1 to that file10:43
Xerjen , did u do sudo ?10:43
monoxidewaseem, why are you trying to run mplayer as root?10:43
haydenpluk: where is .mplayer?10:43
Plukin your home directory /home/hayden/.mplayer/config10:44
waseembecause i was doing something as root earlier, my mistake10:44
haydenok thanks10:44
waseembut its the same stuff10:44
waseemit shows the same stuff when i run it normally10:44
haydenok ill try now10:44
haydenthat didnt work10:45
stingaacan someone help me10:45
Xerim going to download mplayer and see the problem ;)10:45
stingaaim really getting desperate10:45
waseemmonoxide: here is the problem, Reading config file /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf10:45
waseemWarning unknown option skin at line 5010:45
waseemReading config file /home/waseem/.mplayer/config10:45
waseemReading /home/waseem/.mplayer/codecs.conf: Can't open '/home/waseem/.mplayer/codecs.conf': No such file or directory10:45
Jentoo000why cant i have the permission to ./configure when im root?10:45
Xerdownloading will finshed after 48:2110:45
Xerjentoo10:46
monoxidewaseem, you have no skins, no codecs. you need both before you can use mplayer10:46
Xersame proggrams dont run if u are haveing rooot10:46
waseemwhere can i get those10:46
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monoxidethat is the problem10:46
Xeri gived you the site10:46
Xermother fucker10:46
haydenthat worked, thansk heaps Pluk10:46
monoxidei have no config file too, and it works fine10:46
Plukhayden, your welcome10:46
haydenone more thing10:46
waseemso it doesnt come with a default skin or anything?10:46
monoxidewaseem, check out ubuntuguide.org10:47
waseemok so once i download codecs and skins, how do i set them up?10:47
monoxideno10:47
waseemtrust me ive been there10:47
waseemit only tells you how to get an mplayer plugin10:47
haydenwhen i run mplayer a window comes up and says new_face failed. maybe the font directory is wrong. please supply the font ./mplayer/subfont.ttf10:47
waseemfor firefox10:47
haydenwhere can i find that10:47
thewolfCan anyone help me get X working?10:47
thoreauputicuMkulu: keywords10:48
uMkulukeywords is backports bugzilla games restricted guide drx howto topic faq support forum drivers10:48
thewolfOr tell me why it isn't working :(10:48
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thoreauputicuMkulu: topic10:48
uMkului think topic is that thing at the top of the page... Type /topic to read it. Yes. that means YOU....10:48
thoreauputichehe10:48
jeavishello10:48
uMkuluhi, jeavis10:48
jeavisI have a big problem with my gnome enverioment10:49
thewolfhmm?10:49
thoreauputicoh no it greets people as well!10:49
jeavisWhen I star a session display me a error message10:49
stingaai have a big problem with my wireless usb adapter10:49
jeavisuMkulu: THat said me your session during < 10 secs10:50
uMkulujeavis: sorry...10:50
jeavisuMkulu: and restart de gnome10:50
uMkulujeavis: excuse me?10:50
jeavisuMkulu: I cant enter to gnome10:50
uMkulujeavis: what?10:50
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Jentoo000guys im trying to isntall emule and it says here to sh ./configure but it says permission denied when im root why does this happen!!!?10:50
jeavisuMkulu: When I star a session10:50
uMkulujeavis: excuse me?10:51
scarooJentoo000, use the xmule/amule/mlmule package10:51
thewolfCan anyone please help me with my X problem?10:51
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Jentoo000scaroo: what do you mean?10:51
scarooi meant mldonkey10:51
stingaacan anyone help me with my wireless network adapter?10:51
scaroojentoo 'apt-get install amule'10:51
jeavisuMkulu: gnome display a window that said me that the sesion during < 10 secs. and it restatrs the pc10:51
uMkulujeavis: what?10:51
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jeavisI cant enter to gnome, somebody can help me10:52
Summerbornhello ubuntu fans10:52
thewolfWhen the installer tries to start X it doesn't give me any errors.10:53
stingaa....anyone?10:53
thoreauputicjeavis: FYI, uMkulu is a bot10:53
thewolfstingaa, I second that anyone.10:53
stingaa:)10:53
stingaaive been at this crap for like 4 hours (not an exxageration)10:54
TomArayaIs it possible to change skins in RealPlayer? I've read a couple posts that say 'I don't think so' but haven't gotten any clarification.10:54
scizzostingaa: what is the problem?10:54
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stingaai cant ger my wireless usb network adapter to work10:54
thewolfstingaa, I just installed ubuntu, but can't do anything because it won't load X :(10:54
scizzothewolf: you can do a lot10:55
thewolfI don't know much about USB and linux10:55
thewolfscizzo, like what?10:55
thoreauputicuMkulu: keywords10:55
scizzothewolf: everything!10:55
uMkulukeywords is, like, backports bugzilla games restricted guide drx howto topic faq support forum drivers restart10:55
jeavisI cant enter to gnome, somebody can help me, gnome displayed me a window that said ypur session during < 10 secs10:55
CrazyKewlMade a torrent index for ubuntu here http://torrents.nimp.org/index.php  Check it out and please test it for me.10:55
stingaai dont kno much about linux...period10:55
thewolfffs10:55
stingaascizzo can u help?10:56
scizzothewolf: I am doing everything in a terminal.....that is enough for me... irssi, mutt, links etc10:56
thewolfscizzo, do you have anything useful to say about my problem?10:56
scizzothewolf: what is the problem?10:56
thewolf*sigh*10:56
scizzostingaa: hmmm..never used USB and network adapters...what does dmesg and syslog tell you?10:56
thewolfI just installed ubuntu, but when the installer tries to load X, it fails, no errors10:56
stingaadmesg....syslog?10:56
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thoreauputicscizzo: he's just starting - don't confuse him10:57
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thewolfis the installer supposed to let you set the root password?10:57
scizzothewolf: look at the /var/log/XFree86.0.log10:57
thoreauputicthewolf: no10:57
scizzothoreauputic: no....you use sudo10:57
scizzothoreauputic: sudo -s -H10:57
thoreauputicthewolf: ubuntu uses sudo10:57
scizzoGAH!10:57
scizzothoreauputic: sorry10:57
thoreauputicscizzo: at least get the nick right!10:58
thewolfso I just type sudo and my password to get root access?10:58
jeavishow I can turn off my pc from terminal10:58
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jeavissudo -s10:58
thewolfjeavis, shutdown -h now ?10:58
Summerbornwith the command poweroff you can turn off your pc10:58
scizzothoreauputic: I just typed the th and Tab so it became wrong and I said sorry10:58
thoreauputicjeavis: sudo shutdown -h now10:58
thewolfahh10:58
bestadvocatehey do you guy know a way to find out howmuch diskspace is left on one of your HDs?10:58
thoreauputicscizzo: OK :)10:58
Summerborndf -h10:59
thoreauputicbestadvocate: df -H10:59
thewolfSo, what can I do about my X problem?10:59
bestadvocatethanks guys10:59
thoreauputiceither -h or -H10:59
Summerbornis the command that gives you description for all your partitions10:59
scizzothoreauputic: easy to get the nick wrong when doing the Tab thingy... :P10:59
thoreauputicscizzo: true10:59
scizzostingaa: /var/log/dmesg and /var/log/XFree86.0.log10:59
scizzostingaa: if there are errors then they should be listed there10:59
stingaaok11:00
thewolfscizzo, Ok, just noticed what you said :)11:00
neomthewolf - You might want to try sudo apt-get -f install and see what it says.11:00
jeavisthewolf: thank you11:00
thewolfscizzo, I will have a look11:00
jeavisthoreauputic:thank you11:00
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thewolfneom, what does that do?11:00
scizzostingaa: where you able to edit the settings for X during install?11:00
scizzothewolf: man apt-get  ;)11:01
neomthewolf - Tell you if anything wasn't fully installed during your install.11:01
thewolfscizzo, I know what apt-get is, but what does his code DO.11:01
thewolfneom, ok, thanks11:01
thoreauputicscizzo: we avoid rtfm responses here, if possible ;_)11:01
thewolfBack soon :)11:01
scizzothoreauputic: well asking for a parameter?11:02
thoreauputicuMkulu: root11:02
scizzothoreauputic: and I never said rtfm I just told him to try to find the answer in the manual.. :)11:02
uMkuluroot is, like, Ubuntu doesn't set a root password by default. You use sudo instead, with my user password11:02
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thoreauputichaha11:02
thoreauputicoh dear, "his" user password11:03
Pluk:D11:03
scizzothoreauputic: apt-get -f install is telling apt-get to configure and fix the packages a little11:03
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scizzoGAH!11:03
scizzowrong nick again!11:03
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scizzoum...no wonder11:03
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scizzothewolf quited11:03
scizzo:P11:03
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neomSeems like a common ubuntu problem.11:04
neomx fails at start on a fresh install.11:04
scizzothoreauputic: was never ment to sound like "rtfm" more that it is quiet weird to ask for a parameter... :P11:05
thoreauputicroot11:05
thoreauputicoh11:05
thoreauputicuMkulu: root11:05
uMkuluhmmm... root is Ubuntu doesn't set a root password by default. Use the user password instead, with sudo11:05
SummerbornuMkulu: bind11:05
uMkuluSummerborn: sorry...11:05
neomI set a root password on my ubuntu install.11:05
SummerbornuMkulu: httpd11:05
uMkuluSummerborn: excuse me?11:05
SummerbornuMkulu: apache11:06
haydenwhere can i find subfont.ttf (that mplayer needs011:06
uMkuluSummerborn: sorry...11:06
neom:|11:06
neombot rape11:06
scizzohayden: mplayer-font ?11:06
haydenyea11:06
scizzohayden: I guess you can get it from synaptics if you search for mplayer11:06
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thoreauputicSummerborn: he's only just started learning :)11:06
scizzohayden: if not....try to look at the RestrictedFormats on the wiki for information about repositories that you can use for mplayer11:07
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thoreauputicSummerborn: type uMkulu keywords11:07
thoreauputiconly a few11:07
SummerbornuMkulu: keywords11:07
uMkului think keywords is backports bugzilla games restricted guide drx howto topic faq support forum drivers restart root11:07
thoreauputicuMkulu: keywords11:07
uMkulukeywords is backports bugzilla games restricted guide drx howto topic faq support forum drivers restart root11:07
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haydeni found it under synaptics under mplayer-fonts11:08
scizzohayden: :)11:08
neomAdd "man - to view the manual of most commands, type 'man command'."11:08
neomand one about command --help also11:08
haydenwith an s at the end11:08
thoreauputicneom: OK :)11:08
SummerbornHave any of you found the picture the australian school that had put ubuntu as there operating system for the pc lab11:09
Summerbornthere have been about 30th pc's all running ubuntu11:09
Summerborn:)11:09
neomhttp://www.gnome.org/~jdub/images/pembroke-ubuntu-lab.jpg11:09
Summerborn10x a lot11:09
haydenthat photo looks fake11:10
neomIt isn't.11:11
haydenyea just saying it looks fake11:11
neomoh11:11
neom:\11:11
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SummerbornBye guys.11:14
neomIf that wolf dude comes back, remind him about sudo apt-get install xserver-xfree86 and also dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xfree8611:14
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neomAnd if that dosn't work he maybe dosn't have the gnome package and should maybe get that also..11:14
neomjust a suggestion.11:15
cefmako: those cd's FINALLY turned up btw. NFI what took so damn long11:15
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thoreauputicuMkulu: man11:16
uMkulusomebody said man was to view the manual of most commands, type 'man command'11:16
cef3 & 1/2 months to ship a package to australia is nuts!11:16
Pluksending free cds to australia is nuts :P11:19
haydenim in aus11:19
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stingaaok im close to going back to windows11:21
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Neil3fair enough11:22
thoreauputicuMkulu: free11:22
uMkulufree is "Free" as in "free speech", or "freedom", not "gratis" or "for free" - see http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/philosophy.html11:22
johnnybezakthe threats hehe :)11:22
stingaaubuntu is like...anti wireless11:23
shocklol11:23
shockquote for truth!11:24
wellystingaa, how do you work that out?11:24
johnnybezakstingaa: whats the problem11:24
wellyit works for me11:24
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wellyand there aren't even linux drivers for my wireless card11:24
welly(ndiswrapper)11:24
stingaait doesnt want to connect to my network using a usb network adapter11:24
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wellyoh ok.. i wouldn't know about that11:25
clambiehello there11:25
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Xerhi11:26
uMkuluhola, Xer11:27
tgaany other unfortunate souls here using a Radeon 320M or 340M?11:27
Xerhi mkulu11:27
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Xerwich kernel is good to use it for ubuntu?11:28
haydenwhere can i find a wireless mini pci card that'll work with ubuntu?11:28
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Xerin google.com11:29
haydenmy vigor 560 pcmcia wireless card doesnt work with it11:29
haydengoogle.com doesnt sell them11:29
wellyisn't there a list of compatible hardware somewhere?11:29
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wellywww.linux-tested.com11:30
haydenok ill take a look11:31
wellywww.linuxcompatible.org11:31
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Ubuntuhowdy ho11:31
haydenhi11:31
uMkuluniihau, hayden11:31
UbuntuDas ist eine Ubuntu channel , ja ??11:32
haydenhai11:32
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zeedoUbuntu: ja, aber englisch gesprachen11:32
Ubuntugut11:32
Ubuntu:)11:32
haydengut ja11:33
Ubuntucause I dont speak any german :)11:33
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UbuntuCan I get automount in ubuntu like in xandros or gentoo, so that it would automagically moutn ALL my partitions11:33
Ubuntu... without editing fstab myself11:33
tuxyRocheforthi11:34
zeedoUbuntu: hats pretty good because I suck at it too :-D11:34
tuxyRochefortcan anyone help me to get my printer work with cups11:34
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stingaa5 hours now that ima trying to fix this11:34
tuxyRocheforti have an epson epl5200 laser printer and i can't get it work :/11:35
scizzostingaa: found nothing?11:35
scizzostingaa: its taking me 2 days to fix 2 servers in mutt to actually work.. ;)11:35
DeadZedmy Epson inkjet works fine :)11:35
stingaait just doesnt want to fing connect11:35
stingaathats different11:35
stingaai can make this connect to my lan....its simple...get and ip...and connect...11:35
Xerhow to mount fat32 system?11:36
stingaawhy cant linux devs learn the concept of "user freindly"11:36
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tuxyRocheforthttp://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Epson-EPL-5200   <--- i've put the ppd driver in /usr/share/cups/model/ and it doesn't works :/11:36
DeadZedzeedo howcome you speak german if youre in UK??11:36
scizzoXer: mount -t vfat /dev/hdx /mountpoint11:36
zeedoDeadZed: because in the UK we have to learn a second language at school11:37
wellydeadzed, there are about 15 people in the uk that speak a language other than english, he must be one of them11:37
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DeadZedIve lived in ondon for 2 years .. no one speaks other than english11:37
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cefheya Lathiat11:37
LathiatCan someone tell me the minimum sort of stuff i'd need installed to get a nice QT theme for dcgui-qt? Don't want to install like all of kde :)11:37
Lathiatcef: hey :)11:37
Xerscizzo can you tell me if the driver is /dev/hda1 ?11:37
Lathiatcef: coming to lca?11:37
cefLathiat: yup!11:38
welly<< is from the UK (but living in france).. I don't know a solitary person who speaks another language to any great skill11:38
Lathiatsweet11:38
scizzoXer: that depends on how you have done the partitioning11:38
wellya solitary person in the UK that ios11:38
cefLathiat: driving from melb. going to UbuntuDownUnder too11:38
Lathiatcef: mmm, wish i could goto UDU11:38
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scizzoXer: if you: sudo cfdisk /dev/hda11:38
thoreauputicuMkulu: german11:38
uMkulurumour has it german is a good way to communicate, but better in #ubuntu-de11:38
Lathiatcant relaly afford accomodation and stuff11:38
thoreauputicuMkulu: french11:38
haydencef: where is that at?11:38
uMkului think french is a great language, but try #ubuntu-fr11:38
tuxyRochefortanyone on cups ?11:38
scizzoXer: you should see which one is the partition for vfat11:38
Lathiatactually its in sydney isnt it? maybe i know someone ic an crash with hrmm11:38
thoreauputicuMkulu: spanish11:39
uMkuluspanish is a beautiful language, but try #ubuntu-es11:39
clambiehello anybody there knows how can i install chikka to ubuntu platform?11:39
Lathiatflight home is gonna hurt too11:39
wellymy french is getting there.. i'm still struggling a bit11:39
DeadZedtuxyRochefort I could only get my epson printer to work in debian with cups11:39
DeadZeduMkulu: mount11:40
uMkuluDeadZed: what?11:40
DeadZeduMkulu: how are you11:40
uMkulujust great11:40
cefhayden: sydney11:40
DeadZedhah :)11:40
haydenah ok11:40
cefhayden: week after lca11:40
haydenlca?11:40
ceflinux conference of australia11:41
haydenahh ok11:41
DeadZeduMkulu: help11:41
tuxyRochefortDeadZed, i have an epson printer too : epl5200. And it's writtent that this printer works perfectly in linuxprinting.org ... :/11:41
clambiewho knows here how to install chikka to ubuntu11:41
cefhttp://lca2005.linux.org.au/11:41
tuxyRochefortDeadZed, http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Epson-EPL-520011:41
clambieplease lend me a help11:41
cefhayden: which is in Canberra this year11:41
clambieplease11:41
clambieplease11:41
clambieplease11:41
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DeadZedtuxyRochefort just keep trying .. Im sure there is a solution in goole .. I doubt someone can tell you what to do exactly11:42
DeadZed*google11:42
thoreauputicDeadZed: type uMkulu keywords (short list so far)11:42
tuxyRochefortDeadZed, ok :/11:42
Jentoo000i need help11:43
Lathiatcef: also , UDU doesn't fall in my uni break week like LCA does, so thatd suck a bit too11:44
DeadZeduMkulu keywords11:44
cefLathiat: doh!11:44
uMkuluDeadZed: huh?11:44
DeadZedwhatever11:44
Jentoo000im trying to install emule and, it says on the install.txt that you should ./configure after you unzipped the .zip file, I've tried a million times but it says Permission Denied11:44
LathiatJentoo000: chmod u+x configure and then try it11:45
thoreauputicuMkulu: keywords11:45
uMkuluwell, keywords is australia backports bugzilla free french games german restricted guide drx howto topic faq support forum drivers restart root spanish man11:45
DeadZedJentoo000 why not "apt-get install amule" ??11:45
LathiatJentoo000: but if thats an issue, you probably gonna have a few more -- if there is a .tar.gz youd be better off with that11:45
thoreauputicDeadZed: I just told him to forget keywords ;-)11:45
cefis uMkulu a blootbot, or some other variety?11:45
Jentoo000wtf when i pressed that the ./configure button doesnt work11:46
thoreauputicuMkulu: what are you?11:46
uMkuluthoreauputic: bugger all, i dunno11:46
thoreauputichaha11:46
thoreauputiche's an infobot11:46
thoreauputicI believe11:46
DeadZeduMkulu what is google11:46
uMkuludeadzed: i haven't a clue11:46
DeadZeddaa11:46
DeadZednot a good infobot11:46
DeadZedit seems11:47
thoreauputicDeadZed: good point - I'l add a google entry11:47
Jentoo000Reading Package Lists... Done11:47
Jentoo000Building Dependency Tree... Done11:47
Jentoo000E: Couldn't find package emule11:47
DeadZeduMkulu define linux11:47
uMkuluDeadZed: huh?11:47
Alessioanyone who uses mame or gxmame?11:47
thoreauputicDeadZed: he's only a very young infobot ;)11:47
DeadZed:)11:47
thoreauputicDeadZed: needs teaching11:47
DeadZedIt looks like that yes11:47
thoreauputicDeadZed: feel free to /msg him with new info11:48
DeadZedAlessio Ive tried mame in win11:48
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thoreauputic  /msg uMkulu foo is <definition here>11:49
Jentoo000where can i find a downloading program ... lime wire?11:49
wellyanyone develop metacity themes?11:50
DeadZedJentoo000 google limewire f f sake11:50
wellyor has done? because i'm a little confused about the shaded types11:50
Jentoo000DeadZed: I want DC++ lime wire sux11:50
DeadZeduse amule or bittorent11:51
DeadZeduMkulu what is google11:51
uMkulugoogle is, like, Currently the most important spidering search engine by far, Google is dominating the search engine market11:51
thoreauputicwhoever did the google definition - care to add the URL for those we need to point there?11:51
Jentoo000amule or emule?11:51
AlessioDeadZed, not in ubuntu?11:51
DeadZedamule is better they say11:51
DeadZedemule is win11:51
DeadZedin linux amule, xmule11:51
clambiei cant find the soulutions in google how to install chikka (a text messaging) to my ubuntu platform, anybody there who can help me11:52
thoreauputicuMkulu: google11:52
uMkuluhmmm... google is http://google.com , Currently the most important spidering search engine by far, Google is dominating the search engine market...11:52
DeadZedaah11:53
Jentoo000hmm everyone uses google11:53
DeadZedhow do I give him address as well11:53
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thoreauputicDeadZed: some people don't know :)11:53
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DeadZedthoreauputic how did you update that definition11:53
thoreauputicDeadZed: I just did11:53
thoreauputicDeadZed: told him to forget the other one ;)11:53
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DeadZedhow?11:54
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DeadZedcan I do that?11:54
bzozulacan someone help me setup a parralel port scanner - xane is not seeing it at all...have tried googling but nothing seems to be working....the parralel port printer attached to the scanner is working fine.11:54
thoreauputicforget google11:54
uMkuluthoreauputic: I forgot google11:54
DeadZedaah11:54
DeadZedok11:54
thoreauputiclike that11:54
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Jentoo000checking for C++ compiler default output file name... configure: error: C++ compiler cannot create executables11:54
Jentoo000See `config.log' for more details.11:54
Jentoo000what does this mean11:54
Jentoo000i tried ./configure... doesnt work im getting sick of these errors11:55
mjrapt-get install build-essential11:55
Jentoo000what does that do11:55
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mjrinstalls a C++ compiler11:55
DeadZedbzozula maybe it needs some other driver/module?11:55
mjramong other things11:55
topylibzozula: does it work as root?11:56
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Jentoo000cool thanks it works :) thanks mjr11:56
Xerahi11:56
topylibzozula: with parallel scanners you may have to setup saned and use it through the net interface11:56
Xerhi11:56
Jentoo000configure: error: unable to use zlib - no peer found11:56
Jentoo000 :( another error OMG!11:56
uMkuluwhat's up, Xer11:57
Xernathings much , and u?11:57
thoreauputicuMkulu: be11:58
uMkului think be is sudo apt-get install build-essential11:58
bzozulatopyli : never thought to try as root.  Just tried it and yes, it does work as root.11:58
Jentoo000?11:58
thoreauputicuMkulu: australia11:58
uMkuluaustralia is probably the place to be!11:58
haydenwhy is that?11:58
bzozulatopyli : How do I get it working for a normal user?11:59
DeadZeduMkulu yes why11:59
uMkuluDeadZed: i'm not following you...11:59
Jentoo000no peer found? what does this mean11:59
topylibzozula: you need to setup saned. then users can use it through the 'net' backend11:59
Jentoo000what is zlib?11:59
johnnybezakJentoo000: according to the man page zlib - compression/decompression library12:01
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Jentoo000configure: error: unable to use zlib - no peer found12:02
Jentoo000why is it unabled to use zlib?12:02
johnnybezakJentoo000: is it installed12:02
Jentoo000im not sure i tried apt-get install zlib but it said file not found12:03
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DeadZedHow do I make ubuntu to automount ALL my partitions without editing fstab myself?12:04
Jentoo000*yawn* guess thats enough for linuxc12:04
Jentoo000cya guys12:04
DeadZedlike xandros or gentoo automount12:04
Xeri will change to lilo12:07
Xercan anyone tell me how i can do it?12:07
Xer plz?12:07
Nermalto do what ?12:07
Nermaland why lilo not grub ?12:07
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DeadZedXer pat-get install lilo ?12:07
thoreauputicuMkulu: drx12:07
uMkuludrx is reconfigure X with `sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86`  ( or xserver-xorg in Hoary)12:07
Xer%c2 to use lilo12:07
Nermaluse grub12:07
Nermaland use it do what12:08
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Xeri dont like grub12:08
Xerlilo<- is goood12:08
Nermalit's better than lilo IMHO12:08
Xeri know12:08
Xerlilo , i can use splash screen with it :>12:08
Nermalwhat do you want to do with it12:08
DeadZeduMkulu, drx12:08
uMkuludrx is reconfigure X with `sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86`  ( or xserver-xorg in Hoary)12:08
Xerlilo , i can use splash screen with it :>12:08
Nermalyou can with grub12:08
Xerha!12:09
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Xerreally?12:09
Xerlol12:09
scizzoyes12:09
hankAny one a gun at using the make feature ? I know this sounds lazy but there isn't some kind of compilation program is there?12:09
scizzoyou can use splashscreen in grub12:09
NermalNSS12:09
Xerhow to do it?!!!12:09
DeadZedthoreauputic, howcome drx = reconfigure X with `sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86`  ( or xserver-xorg in Hoary)12:09
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Nermalhank, wtf ?12:10
prohank, you mean make to compile source code?12:10
haydenyea how come12:10
Nermal./configure && make && make install12:10
thoreauputicDeadZed: just shorthand keyword - it gets asked every 15 minutes12:10
Nermalor rather sudo make install12:10
thoreauputicDeadZed: maybe not the best choice12:10
DeadZedoh .. just for you?12:10
DeadZedto get it printed12:10
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hankno no, I have just opened up a tar.gz file and it made a file that I apparently need to 'make config'12:10
thoreauputicDeadZed: well, if you want to add one, feel free12:10
selinium_Hi all, how do i make thunderbird my default mail package?12:11
thoreauputicDeadZed: no need to change that one though12:11
Nermalhank, which tarball ?12:11
DeadZedthoreauputic do you know how to install automout to ubuntu?12:11
thoreauputicmaybe reconfigure12:11
Nermalso type make config ?12:11
Nermalselinium_, its in the gnome apps prefs12:11
hankI've downloaded this package that supposedly helps to configure and drive wireless network carsds12:11
selinium_thoreauputic: Hi there! Glad to see you!12:11
Nermal"preferred applications" iirc12:11
thoreauputicDeadZed: no, I just edit fstab - I'm used to it I gues12:11
Nermalhank, read the README12:11
thoreauputic*guess12:11
DeadZedk12:12
hankI'm sorry, just installed linux for first time today12:12
Nermaland INSTALL12:12
thoreauputichi selinium_12:12
Nermalthen don't try to configure wireless network card driveers from source ;)12:12
johnnybezakhank: welcome! :)12:12
hankyeah, I read the readme but it directed me to use the make config command which doesn't do anything.12:12
selinium_Nermal: how do i get to there?12:12
Nermalwhich wifi card do you have12:12
hankI guess I'm missing the right parameter12:12
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hanksIts a generic 802.11b12:12
Nermalselinium_, *sigh* SYSTEM -> PREFERENCES12:12
DeadZedhank was it ndiswrapper?12:12
hankthanks!12:12
Nermalapt-get install ndiswrapper?12:13
selinium_Nermal: Sorry, i have been using linux for about two weeks now....12:13
hankUm, I tried ndiswrapper but i dont think I started with the right inf file er something12:13
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Nermalselinium_, I just thought it was an obvious place to look ;)12:13
DeadZedhank maybe you need to read man pages or some help about it12:13
scoonanyone here use any logitech bluetooth stuff ?12:13
johnnybezakhank: what brand is it?12:14
hankyeah I'll check out the man page.12:14
johnnybezakhank: man pages arent very friendly there is probably somewhere better to find out12:14
hankIts an EXCEL IEEE 802.11b12:14
Nermalurrgh12:14
Nermalchipset ?12:15
thoreauputicDeadZed: I added "reconfigure" as a keyword for drx, BTW12:15
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hankYEah I was acctually just reading the man page and was a little bewildered. I've got lots of homework now!12:15
selinium_Nermal: Cheers for the help!12:15
Nermalselinium_, np.. I'm tired, broke and I have a cold :|12:15
hankUm. Chipset? how would I determine that. Will it be on the card?12:15
Nermalwell.. lspci ?12:15
DeadZeduMkulu, reconfigure x12:15
uMkuluDeadZed: huh?12:15
Nermalcardinfo ?12:15
hankget well selenium12:15
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hankoh right, sorry12:15
DeadZeduMkulu, how to reconfigure x12:16
uMkuluDeadZed: excuse me?12:16
hankyeah its PCMCIA12:16
Nermalhmmmm12:16
prouMkulu, time?12:16
uMkulupro: i haven't a clue12:16
selinium_Nermal: If it helps, i just lost over two weeks work with a deadline on wednesday, when i would of only just completed everything if I hadn't junked my harddrive! Hope that cheers you up some!12:16
thoreauputicDeadZed: just reconfigure12:16
thoreauputicuMkulu: reconfigure12:16
uMkulureconfigure is `sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86` or xserver-xorg in Hoary12:16
DeadZeduMkulu, reconfigure12:16
uMkulureconfigure is `sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86` or xserver-xorg in Hoary12:16
DeadZedk12:17
thoreauputicyup12:17
Nermalselinium_, aye..12:17
thoreauputicDeadZed: I'm a lazy typist ;)12:17
DeadZedthoreauputic in Undernet #linuxhelp they got a really good bot12:17
prouMkulu, time is <reply> $time12:17
uMkuluOK, pro.12:17
prouMkulu, stats?12:17
uMkuluSince Fri Mar  4 12:50:15 2005, there have been 152 modifications and 107 questions.  I have been awake for 3 hours, 13 minutes, 33 seconds this session, and currently reference 95 factoids. Addressing is in optional mode.12:17
selinium_Nermal: Hopefully the wonders of coffe will pull me through!12:17
DeadZedand in #debian theyve got a good bot12:17
Nermalselinium_, aye.. I'm on shitty instant atm12:18
thoreauputicDeadZed: yeah, in #debian here on freenode too (this bot isn't mine, BTW)12:18
hankHas anyone any experience with configuring wireless network cards?12:18
thoreauputicDeadZed: this bot belongs to pro12:18
DeadZedthoreauputic Did you build uMkulu  yourself?12:18
thoreauputicAFAIK12:18
johnnybezakhank: there is a wireless how-to that might help you out on tldp.org (the linux documentation project)12:18
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johnnybezaki can post a link to the pdf if you want12:18
thoreauputicDeadZed: see above - it's pro's bot12:18
rubix_whats the command to update distro?12:18
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cefDeadZed: dpkg on #debian has been around for a very long time.. lots of people have trained it well12:19
rubix_its like apt-get update-dist or something like that i can't exactly remember12:19
Nermaldist-upgrade12:19
rubix_ok, thank you12:19
Nermalafter apt-get update12:19
thoreauputicrubix_: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade12:19
selinium_Cheers all for the help. Back to the grind... See you all soon, probably!12:19
javiolocan anyone help me on a apache server12:19
selinium_javiolo: depends...12:20
Xerhttp://www.bootsplash.org/silent-mode.jpg <<<--- anyone know how to do this with grub?12:20
DeadZedjaviolo Im sure they got their own channel12:20
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DeadZedfull of apache fans12:20
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javiolowell its about sharing to internet12:21
javioloi have to redirect any port? i have a router12:21
selinium_javiolo: Install firestarter and open your http port 8012:21
thoreauputicpro: I've added a few things - type keywords to see (some are from zenrox I think)12:21
Xer...12:22
javiolook, thanks12:22
bzozulatopyli : having difficuly getting saned setup to allow net access...any tips?12:22
bzozulatopyli.  I can telnet in.12:22
bzozulatopyli.  But xsane still doesn't work as a normal user...only root12:22
topylibzozula: device permissions, i'd say. who owns /dev/lp0?12:23
selinium_javiolo: firestarter is just a gui front end for the ip tables. it is real easy to use. you can open other channels aswell for ftp and the like. Any probs 'beep' me.12:23
javiolook12:23
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Alessiowho use zsnes?12:24
selinium_javiola: tio beep me just type my handle in ok12:24
Xeranyone here know about splash screen's ?12:24
javiolobut i didnt touch iptables before, i dunno whats confired there, but shouldnt work if only open the port 80 to muy unbutu ?12:24
bzozulatopyli.  root12:24
Alessiowhy aren't a lot of dependencies?12:24
Nermal You are being CTCP flooded from Xer, ignoring *!*@lab212.emirates.net.ae12:24
Nermalahhh :)12:24
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Xerthanks :>12:25
Xerthe only way to talk to12:25
Xer:P12:25
selinium_javiolo: was it working before then?12:25
Nermalhmm.. /me fetches some hoary updates12:25
thoreauputicuMkulu: time12:25
uMkulu16:11:37 200512:25
prothoreauputic, no problem, if i were not so busy here at work, i would also try add stuff12:25
topylibzozula: read further. just checked, group lp owns it too. :) so make your users part of the lp group12:25
DeadZedI have found bugs in my hoary .. should I report those? .. like synaptic crashes without installing packages and fileroller makes x to crash12:25
thoreauputicpro: I just put in some answers to common questions12:25
Xerhttp://www.bootsplash.org/silent-mode.jpg <<<--- anyone know how to do this with grub?12:26
thoreauputicor useful answers to vague questions *g*12:26
prook, cool12:26
Xer,http://www.bootsplash.org/silent-mode.jpg <<<--- anyone know how to do this with grub?12:26
prouMkulu, synaptic ?12:26
uMkulupro: no idea12:26
thoreauputicmissed that one!12:26
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DeadZedXer if kernel doesnt have bootsplash support built in .. you cant12:27
cefultrafunk: argh!!!12:27
Xer haaaaaaaaaA!12:27
DeadZedotherwise, I dont know12:27
prosynaptic is <reply> synaptic is the packagemanager GUI on dpkg based systems12:27
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Xer soo i need to upgrade ;|12:27
thenukeXer: google for ubuntu bootsplash12:27
DeadZedyes12:27
thenukeor search ubuntus forums12:27
bzozulatopyli.  ok added, will I need to logout and in again to activate or is there a quicker way?12:27
Skiddoes ubuntu store the kernel source, if you install the kernel via apt?@12:27
Nermalno12:28
Nermalyou have to install that seperately12:28
Xer But i still can use gnub for splash screen?12:28
NermalYES12:28
Nermalfor the 5th time12:28
DeadZedXer this splash screen has NOTHING to do with grub12:28
britishseapowermy sister has a small language school and they have 5 "student" pcs (basically for IM and browsing)...win98 is constantly getting them infected with viruses and i am fed up with it. I want to try to remove the HDDs and put ubuntu live cd on them...is this gonna work for me?12:28
Xer...12:28
DeadZedits linux start-up splash12:28
Nermalbootsplash is kernel12:28
topylibzozula: you just need a new login shell12:28
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DeadZedXer listen to Nermal12:29
topylibzozula: like 'xterm -ls'12:29
Nermalgrub menu splash is grub, bootsplash is kernel12:29
Xerid like to use splash screeen , its look good12:29
Xernermal?12:29
NermalXer, a boot splash screen ?12:29
Xerhe ignored me soo i ingnored him12:29
DeadZedyes12:29
NermalXer, then you're not going to get much help are you12:29
Xerdo i have to unignored him?12:29
DeadZedhe wants boot splash12:29
topylibzozula: then do 'scanimage -L'12:29
Xer Nermal!*@* removed from ignore list.12:30
Nermalxchat chose to ignore you as you flooded me with CTCP requests... not my choice :P{12:30
Xerlol12:30
britishseapoweris it gonna work...a live cd...without an hdd in the machine ?12:30
Xersooo whats you was saying?12:30
DeadZedXer Nermal  told you million times what to do .. now go do it12:30
thenukebritishseapower: try on your own machine12:30
Xeri ignored him ;] 12:30
Xertell me again12:31
Xer:P12:31
DeadZedhah12:31
NermalI'm not sure if the ubuntu kernel supports bootsplash12:31
DeadZedstupid12:31
britishseapowerthenuke: but theres no problem with it in theory..?12:31
Xerlol12:31
britishseapowerthenuke: good idea though...i will try it12:31
thoreauputicXer: stop using your return key as punctuation, *please*12:31
thenukebritishseapower: I dont know about that12:31
Xerlol12:31
Xerwhy?12:31
DeadZedXer Is bootsplash REALLY the most appealing feature of linux ?12:32
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Skiddoes ubuntu store a make.conf or similar for the kernel anywhere12:32
NermalXer, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=825712:32
Skidso I can see what options hav ebeen built in?12:32
Nermalfollow the link to the debian howto12:32
Nermalbut please heed the "Now, I'll not go into how to get bootsplash working, it's not trivial...." warning12:32
Xerdead z , no but its i think its will loook goood :)12:32
thoreauputicDeadZed: especially as it only gets seen when one updates the kernel every few *months*12:32
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thoreauputicI can hardly wait :/12:33
chris_JackI have just installed Ubuntu and totem does not work, any suggestions12:33
britishseapowerhow supported are "realtek" wifi cards in ubuntu?12:34
thoreauputicdoesn't work12:34
uMkuludoesn't work is, like, not a very useful error message - can you be more specific, please12:34
britishseapowerpci12:34
thoreauputicuMkulu: doesn't work12:34
uMkuluhmmm... doesn't work is not a very useful error message - can you be more specific, please...12:34
Nermalchris_Jack, define "doesn't work"12:34
thoreauputicah, the nick is not needee12:34
DeadZedyes, my totem doesnt start either12:34
chris_Jackhang on12:35
Nermalsegfault ?12:35
DeadZedit says "resource busy" or something12:35
chris_Jackback in sec12:35
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chris_Jackfailed to open reason unknown12:35
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DeadZedTotem doesnt start, - error "Resource busy or not available."12:36
DeadZedlatest hoary cd install12:36
selinium_britshseapower: doesn't work was aimed at somebody else i think!12:36
DeadZedshould I report bugs in hoary?12:37
thoreauputicDeadZed: indeed12:37
britishseapowerselinium_: ok.12:37
thoreauputicbugzilla12:37
uMkulusomebody said bugzilla was http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com12:37
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DeadZedchris_Jack I'll try to ap-get install xine12:39
haydenhas anyone figured out the bootsplash?12:39
chris_Jackok12:39
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Nermalhayden, read the debian howto12:39
haydenlink?12:39
Nermalhttp://www.desktop-linux.net/bootsplash.htm12:40
Nermalor scroll up *rolls eyes*12:40
britishseapowerHow supported are Realtek PCI wifi cards (Realtek RTL8180) in ubuntu? Is anybody running one successfully?12:40
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scaroo_hi ppl ! is it my eyes or the latest gtk update slowed down a lot redrawing speed ?12:41
Nermalbritishseapower, would depend on the chipset12:41
Skidwhat's the difference between kernel-headers, and kernel-image ?12:41
Nermalunless that is the chipset ;)12:41
britishseapowerthat is the chipset! :-)12:41
NermalSkid, kernel headers are the headers for the kernel source - used for compiling things against the kernel.. kernel image is the actual compiled kernel image that runs12:42
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britishseapoweri'd love it if the livecd dhcpd that nic out of the box!12:42
Nermalheaders are basically function declarations12:42
Skidah12:42
Skidso you can't get the kernelsource via apt?12:42
NermalI think12:42
Nermalsure :)12:42
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SkidI can't seem to see it12:42
Skidkernel-source-2.6.6 - Linux kernel source for version 2.6.6 with Debian patches12:42
Skidnm12:42
Skidmy mistake :P12:42
Skidstill, I feel more bleeding edge heh12:43
fscBrianAnthony, 8180 will run under ndiswrapper. realtek has native(closed) drivers for 2.4.x kernels...and not sure if they ever got around to releasing 2.6.x kernels12:43
NermalSkid, I have 2.6.9 available to me12:43
thenukeNermal: do you happen to know if one can use that debians bootsplash guide with ubuntu? I guess that only possible problem would be in compiling kernel? but is it?12:43
fscbritishseapower, rather12:43
SkidI can't see it in there, warty?12:43
SkidI've stable in my reps though12:43
fscbritishseapower, i'm running under a 8180 right now12:43
Nermalthenuke, seeing as ubuntu warty started from a sid snapshot, I believe so12:43
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britishseapowerfsc: - yeah ?12:43
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fschmm...device manager is crashy now12:44
Nermalkernel could be different.. not sure if the ubuntu kernel has bootsplash support12:44
Nermalthe kernel on the livecd does12:44
thenukeNermal: ok. I guess that only possible problem that I can think of is that if the ubuntus kernel would not ship with configs :)12:44
britishseapowerfsc: my sister is really not echnical and i want her to try ubuntu on her wifi network...what steps do you need to configure the 8180 with the live cd?12:44
fscbritishseapower, live cd might be tricky.  you'll have to get the windows .inf and .sys driver files, and install ndiswrapper12:45
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Nermalthenuke, peter@ubuntu:/boot$ cat config-2.6.10-3-686 |grep -i bootsplash12:45
Nermalpeter@ubuntu:/boot$12:45
Nermal:(12:45
britishseapowerfsc: - k, gotit12:45
britishseapowerfsc: - i think i might need a trip down to see her to sort this out12:45
fscbritishseapower, most definitely12:45
britishseapowerfsc: - good to know that it does work with ndis wrapper though12:45
britishseapowerfsc: catch 22...could ssh in...but no nic no ssh...and vice versa.12:46
fscbritishseapower, heck it works better under ndiswrapper than under windows for me.  windows wants to constantly hop around other wireless networks for me, but probably not a driver problem, but windows wireless management issue12:46
chris_Jackhave to go catchew later12:47
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britishseapowerfsc: ok...good info12:50
javioloanyone here uses firestarter ?12:51
britishseapowerfsc: do you know if ndiswrapper comes on the livecd?12:52
Xappejaviolo, i tried it a couple of days ago, but it was a horrorshow, didn't allow me to do anything so I got rid of it12:52
Xappenow I use shorewall with grat success! :)12:53
javioloxappe do know a good one if its possible a easy one12:53
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Xappeshorewall is very good, and you should be able to set it up with the example files that follows with the shorewall-doc package12:54
Xappeit's not graphical though, so u have to edit some files to get it going12:54
javiolo:O12:54
javioloany graphical ?12:54
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Skidyouknow RC's, will RC4 for example, contain patches of RC1,2, and 3?12:55
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Skidfor patching a kernel, or do I need to patch RC1, then 2, then 3, etc12:55
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thoreauputicXappe, javiolo, I think firestarter is fine as an easy to use firewall for a basic install12:55
javiolothe problem is i cant open it via menu12:56
thoreauputicjaviolo: try it out and see if it does what you need - it has a wizard setup and is trivially simple12:56
javiolocos its says my root pass its invalid12:56
Nermalit will be12:56
javiolobut it works on terminal12:56
Nermalyou won't have one12:56
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Xappethoreauputic, for some maybe, not for me :)12:56
Skidwhat's the horay array-6 stuff?12:57
Skidintopic too12:57
thoreauputicjaviolo: ah, yes - try starting from a terminal with `gksudo firestarter`12:57
javiologksudo ?12:57
thoreauputicjaviolo: should work with your pass12:57
javioloi used sudo12:57
thoreauputicgksudo is a front end for sudo12:57
thoreauputicit pops up a box12:58
javiolobut its normal the first time i run it that prints a lot of errors on terminal12:58
javioloit cant find some files12:58
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iapxoila12:58
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iapxis hoary out still?12:59
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underlordis there something i can use to probe xfree86 (or directly my nvidia geforce 2 mx 64meg, official drivers installed) and get details to use in xfree config like resolutions? or better yet write my config using the data?01:01
Nermalunderlord, xorgconfig ? xf86config ?01:02
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fscbritishseapower, not sure. never used it01:02
underlordok, i'll try those01:02
iapxunderlord, is a laptop?01:03
underlorddesktop01:03
fscoh nice...it looks like sourceforge cvs is down for maintenance again01:03
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underlordbut im feeling to lazy to google about my hardware and figure it all out01:04
thoreauputicreconfigure01:04
uMkului think reconfigure is `sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86` or xserver-xorg in Hoary01:04
thoreauputicunderlord: ^^^01:04
underlordim in warty01:04
thoreauputicsudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree8601:04
thoreauputicin warty01:04
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underlordwell i just installed my nvidia drivers, will i need to enable those again after?01:05
djphi all01:05
Nermaluh.. thats just changing nv to nvidia in the config file01:05
underlordok01:05
underlordty01:05
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thoreauputichave you already edited the config file? If so the dpkg-reconfigure won't have any effect01:06
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kcshile, my epiphany always starts with offline mode, any idea why?01:06
underlordno, i havent manualy edited it01:06
kcshi i wanna say01:07
thoreauputicok, well that command will still work, but as for the nvidia thing. I don't know01:07
thoreauputickcs: change your home page?01:08
uMkuluthoreauputic: that doesn't look right01:08
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thoreauputicuMkulu: what?01:08
uMkuluwish i knew, thoreauputic01:08
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padlefothi guys :)01:08
thoreauputica bot that corrects!01:08
kcsthoreauputic, but with save session too01:08
djpi have just upgraded a fresh install to hoary hedgehog and in the process of installing linux-k7 to optimise my install with my athlon processor. however i receive the following message when trying to install linux-k7, WARNING! The following packages cannot be authenticated! linux-image-2.6.10-4-k7 linux-image-k7 linux-restricted-modules-2.6.10-4-k7  linux-restricted-modules-k7 linux-k7 Install these packages without verificatio01:09
djpn? [y/N] . Should I just answer 'y' and let the packages install without authentication or is this a problem?01:09
kcssaved01:09
BastardHello. Sitting down, installing Ubuntu (on a laptop) Comming to the network configuration dialog, And here i choose my wireless card, Works fine, gives it the ESSID, And the the WEP, Dosent work. Ok. So ill do itt all over again, But rem,oving every bit of security by removing thw WEP Encryption from the AP, Then choosing the wlan card, and gives no WEP, And damn., it works,01:10
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aviroxhi all01:11
BastardBut! I MUST Have security...01:11
aviroxi have the latest AMD64 build of ubuntu01:11
BastardWhat to do?01:11
aviroxbut I'm wondering if there's a way to stop it from synchronising the clock when booting up01:11
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underlordwhats a meta key? i thought that was the "logo" key.... or is the "logo" key what i should think of as "super"?01:12
thoreauputicunderlord: yeah I think the logo key is "super"01:12
virtualda meta key is a key on sun keyboards, it looks like a filled square like this <>01:13
djpcan anybody help me with my authentication problem?!01:13
underlordoooooh01:13
selinium_avirox: there is something one the clock at www.ubuntuguide.org i dont konw if that will help?01:13
underlordwhat what about the thing thats a square with circles at each corner on mac? is that also super?01:13
kcsok, another question ;) my d letter is not working01:13
thoreauputicdjp: do you know which repository they come from?01:13
dudavirox, remove the ntp-server startup script01:14
thoreauputicdjp: apt-cache policy <packagename> should show you their origin01:14
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thoreauputicunderlord: run xev to find out01:15
aviroxselinium_, : thanks, but where do i put "sudo chmod -x /etc/init.d/service_name" ?01:15
underlord...i dont have a mac, i was just wondering, its good to not be talking bullshit when your trying to convert the apple users01:15
selinium_avirox: Applications / terminal01:15
aviroxty01:15
aviroxwhat is the service name of the tiemr btw?01:16
djpthoreauputic: http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary/restricted Packages01:16
aviroxhehe01:16
hankhey all. Can .mov be watched in ubuntu?01:17
padlefotwhats the standard keyboard module?01:17
padlefot"keyboard" ?01:17
virtualdunderlord: any key can be mapped to any function01:17
thoreauputicdjp: should be fine then01:17
aviroxoh! nevermind!01:17
haydenanyone here got a bootsplash for ubuntu (an easy one)01:17
underlordyes, i suppose01:17
djpthoreauputic: thanks for the advice and the apt-cache tip!01:18
aviroxthank you very much selinium_01:18
virtuald(i don't know what the default function of that mac key is as i don't have a mac)01:18
aviroxalso, I am wondering how to mount my windows drives01:18
selinium_avorix: no problerm01:18
selinium_avirox: also at www.ubuntuguide.org I think you should have a read of that !01:19
aviroxhehe k01:19
selinium_avirox: :P01:20
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kcsmy d letter is not working, i cant write d, any idea01:23
wezzercheck your keyboard layot01:24
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wezzermine went accidentally to somekind of korean or something and then some of the letters didn't work01:24
thoreauputickcs: how did you write "d" just then? hehe01:24
kcsthoreauputic: clipboar?01:25
kcsd01:25
thoreauputicah I see :)01:25
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jbahi guys01:26
jbahave a grub question that I hope someone can answer?01:26
haydenwhat a program i can dload with apt-get to burn/copy cds with01:26
jbabasically i have win2k with ntldr on disk 1, and wanted to chain load grub (for ubuntu) on second disk01:26
mazzenhi! i want to delete the package sun-j2sdk1.4.2 with dpkg --force-all -P sun-j2sdk1.4.2, but it fails. dpkg says to me ,,/usr/bin/idlj is missing, so it doesnt want to delete ist. but should dpkg --force-all -P sun-j2sdk1.4.2, do it, as it has the option --force-all?01:27
prohayden, jigdo01:27
jbahayden, cdroast01:27
thoreauputicxcdroast I think01:27
prook, sorry i thought you asked what program will download and burn cd's for you01:28
haydenwhich is better?01:28
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jbaso can anyone help with grub issues?01:29
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Rajjan____Dudes. Anyone with some knowledege of wifi + WEP Problems, Please talk to me...01:29
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thoreauputicalso a CD burner for warty is here (in the warty directory) http://people.debian.org/~goedson/packages/ubuntu/01:29
thoreauputichayden: if you are using warty I suggest the link above01:30
thoreauputicyou can install the .deb with sudo dpkg -i <nameofdeb>01:30
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scizzojba: just ask...don't try to find a specific person or ask to ask01:31
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hankHas anyone had anyluck using ndiswrapper?01:34
zeedohank: yep01:34
zeedoworked without issue for me01:34
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da_bon_boncan i boot off an iso without installing it ?01:35
hankahh, what's the approach I use the -i command with my windows driver. It says installed but then when I list it says, hardware not present01:35
padlefotda_bon_bon; yep, with the live cd's :P01:35
hankHoly shit, now it says present! woohoo! lemme fiddle. I'll be right bac01:35
da_bon_bonpadlefot: i have an iso of a live cd!01:36
padlefottry it out then01:36
kcsmy d letter is not working, i cant write d, can anyone help me? :) the last try01:36
hankOkay, it seems to say hardware present when I list now. Do I have to activate the device01:36
hank?01:36
thoreauputickcs: just as a way of seeing what the system thinks "d" is, try running xev and pressing the key01:37
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jbamy problem is this: i have win2k on disk 1 with ntldr, and grub installed on disk 2 (with ubuntu). I can't get win2k ntldr to successfully chainload grub)01:37
thoreauputickcs: put the cursor in the xev box01:37
jbabut i've been doing this fine with fc2 for ages\01:37
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kcsthoreauputic: no symbol01:38
thoreauputickcs: hmm01:38
thoreauputicdunno then01:38
kcsthoreauputic: its strage couse in in a Xnest winow i can write d01:38
hankzeedo, did you have to reboot or some such thing?01:38
thoreauputickcs: it was just a shot in the dark...01:38
kcsthoreauputic: :) ok thx01:39
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thoreauputickcs: so it's an X server issue01:39
zeedohank: nope01:39
thoreauputicxnest giving you a new X server...01:39
kcsthoreauputic: before i set ctrl+shift+d as shortcut in gnome01:39
zeedohank: I just did this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=564501:39
hankAhh, lovely, thanks mate01:40
thoreauputickcs: try unsetting it/01:40
thoreauputic?01:40
jesus\mm01:40
kcsthoreauputic: i va one it01:41
StoffBox-SteveGood morning :)01:41
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haydenhi01:42
Rajjan____Dudes. I Cant activate my wlancard/wlanconnection?01:42
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thoreauputictopyli: haha01:43
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thoreauputicreminds me of the Monty Python sketch where the guy couldn't say the letter "c" :D01:43
kcstopyli: :)01:44
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thoreauputicI shouldn't laugh, I suppose, sorry kcs01:44
topylishould get you through the weekend :)01:44
Plukxnest --display 101:44
Plukooops01:44
topyliheh01:45
thoreauputicPluk: Xnest -ac :1  perhaps?01:45
thoreauputic*g*01:45
Plukehehe01:45
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topyliperhaps xnest 0110101101111010001011 :1 could help01:45
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haydenhas anyone got a ubuntu bootsplash?01:49
da_bon_bonhayden: damn difficult - u need to rebuild the kernel01:49
kentOne thing i would love is that if the program which handles running GUI apps with sudo would show an icon of the program that is to be run, and not this icon of a lock. It would look much better..  :)01:49
haydenhmm01:50
haydenbugger01:50
Skidheh hayden I'm doing that as we speak :)01:50
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Arnaldthere appear to be 30 files missing from array-6 with jigdo - I am using http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ as the source - any ideas?01:51
Arnaldor am I just too late??01:52
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gareth_uMkulu, you there?01:52
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haydenif i wanted to dload the binary of a program that i can't get from apt-get and install it, what directory would i install it in?01:52
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stuNNedhayden: /usr/local01:53
Errejo/usr/local01:53
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haydenok thanks01:53
uMkuluno idea, gareth_01:53
haydenand then i can just type 'appname' in terminal and it would run?>01:53
stuNNedhayden: if it's in bin or sbin for superuser of /usr/local dir yes01:53
scaroohayden /usr/local/bin is in the path envvar so, yep01:53
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haydenok01:54
virtualdhttp://perl.sensei.nu/scripts/bullshit.pl01:54
bestadvocatehey guys how do you access the applications:/// folder in nautilus?01:54
topylibestadvocate: ctl-l will give you the location bar to type in01:54
da_bon_bonhayden: if its a binary, just "dpkg -i NAME"01:54
Skidwhats the diff between bin, and sbin?01:55
proSkid, sbin is in roots path but not others, and bin is in everyones path01:55
Skidah01:55
Skidfack, kernel just failed01:55
stuNNedisn't some sbin files in sudoers path as well?01:56
haydenda_bon_bon, i wanted to install mozilla-firefox 1.0.101:56
bestadvocatetopyli: why is "the location ... not valid"01:56
topylisbin is in my path :)01:56
proand the difference between /usr/bin or /usr/sbin is that thoes programs are not needed to boot the system01:56
Funraiserhow can i set nautilus so that each time i open a new folder it's in the full screen size? can't find the option for that01:56
haydenand it comes with an installer01:56
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Funraiserit always opens a small window01:56
bestadvocatetopyli: oh and thanks for the idea, I did not know you could do that01:56
proand /usr/local/bin and /usr/local/sbin are where programs not shipped with the distro are supposed to go,01:57
topylibestadvocate: works here :\01:57
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bestadvocateoh crap i wonder if this is a AMD/Hoary problem01:57
protopyli, well, it may be in your path, but its not FHS compliant then01:57
bestadvocateI am going to update and restart01:57
da_bon_bonhayden: wait till it is in the apt repos01:58
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topylipro: yeah, it's not. then again, users are often non-standard :)01:58
edulixanyone used partimage ?01:58
Funraisernobody for my nautilus setting?01:58
bestadvocateanyone know another way to edit the applications menu?01:58
hayden;801:59
Funraiserall right, thanks anyway02:00
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haydenda_bon_bon, when would that be?02:00
bestadvocateanybody?02:00
da_bon_bonhayden: after hoary is released.02:00
topylibestadvocate: you can right-clicking the menu items directly02:00
scaroobestadvocate, see http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2005-February/msg00425.html02:00
bestadvocatetopyli: but that doesnt let you delete old directories02:00
haydenok02:01
haydenis warty pretty old now?02:01
scaroo6 months old02:01
scaroomore or less02:01
haydenlooks like i chose the best time to install it then02:01
hank_Hey, thanks zeedoo, its all working fine, I feel like a moron, I took out the network card to find its make and forgot to put the fucker back in. Ha!02:02
topylibestadvocate: hrmpf. i guess the menu editing will work in gnome 2.12 or so02:02
hank_re: the wireless config'02:02
SiRrUshayden Warty has been out since Oct02:02
haydenok02:02
bestadvocatetopyli: thats good to know at least02:03
bestadvocatealright I am off to restart02:03
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Xerhi02:05
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Xercan anyone tell me where can i find  "02:06
XerUnder --> File Systems, place a checkmark in:02:06
Xer" in this site? http://www.desktop-linux.net/bootsplash.htm02:06
selinium_how do i change the menu bars? I want to lanch gksudo bluefish, not bluefish?02:06
Skidthe kernel menuconfig?02:07
evarlastwhy don't I have new monthly walpaper in hoary?02:08
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selinium_Skid: but how :) I know how to create launchers, but how do i do it for the menus?02:10
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djphow do you create launcher in hoary?02:10
selinium_djp: right click on the desktop02:11
Skidselinium_: no Idea, wasn't talking to you02:11
SkidI was telling Zer02:11
SkidXer02:11
selinium_Skid: LOL sorry!02:11
djpselinium: done that, but nothing happens02:12
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selinium_djp: Something must be up with your install! Or your mouse?02:12
djpselinium: sorry, let me explain that a bit better. it brings up the create launcher windoe, i create the launcher, press ok and ... nothing appears!02:12
Xerha?02:13
Xertelling me what?02:13
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selinium_djp: I dont know what to say. Maybe restart gnome and try again. It should just pop up.02:14
haydenwhere is the kernel source located in warty?02:14
djpselinium: will try a restart...02:14
LinuxJoneshayden, it's called linux-source02:14
haydenyea thats what i said :)02:15
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haydenwhere is it located?02:18
djpok, restarting ubuntu has made my newly created launcher appear on the desktop. how do i move it into a menu on the application bar? using hoary by the way...02:18
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selinium_djp: that was the question i asked about 5 mins ago!02:20
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membreyadjp: no direct way02:20
membreyawant a link? :)02:20
prokernel source is  apt-get install kernel-source-`uname -r`02:20
prokernel-source ?02:20
djpselinium_: :oops:!02:21
prouMkulu, kernel source?02:21
uMkulukernel source is, like, apt-get install kernel-source-`uname -r`02:21
da_bon_bonmembreya: have u installed vmware on ubuntu ?02:21
djpmembreya: so any newly created launchers will have to stay on the desktop for now?02:21
membreyada_bon_bon: nope02:21
da_bon_bonmembreya: ok.. do u use slackware linux ?02:22
membreyaoh ...THAT...sorry djp ...was tripping..thought you meant how do you add things to the menus02:22
membreyanot the application bar02:22
selinium_djp: on warty it used to be something like nautilus applications:///Internet in a term then create launcher.02:22
prokernel source is  also check build-essential02:22
uMkuluokay, pro.02:22
membreyada_bon_bon: i use hoary02:22
prokernel source02:22
uMkuluhmmm... kernel source is apt-get install kernel-source-`uname -r` or check build-essential02:22
djpselinium_: sure, that's what i tried at first under hoary, but it doesn't work02:23
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zeeblewhat's the URL for ubuntuguide?02:23
djpmembreya: is there a way?02:23
probuild-essential is a package alias for install all the tools needed to compile source on debian based systems02:23
membreyazeeble: www.ubuntuguide.org02:23
membreyadjp sure is :)02:23
probuild-essential?02:23
uMkulubuild-essential is a package alias for install all the tools needed to compile source on debian based systems02:23
selinium_djp: I know! I was trying to find out the syntax myself!02:23
selinium_:)02:23
membreyaselinium_ & djp: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7724302:24
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zeeblemembreya thanks02:24
djpmembreya: thanks02:24
selinium_membreya: cheers!02:24
selinium_zeeble: www.ubuntuguide.org02:24
membreyais that what you were after guys ?>02:24
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membreyaselinium_: little late :P02:24
kzmbtw, anybody using mplayer from marillat?02:25
zeeblekzm i do. but i use debian.02:25
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membreyazeeble: get cable :P02:25
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kzmzeeble, hmm, wrong channel? :-)02:26
membreyalocate is no excuse :P02:26
membreyalocation even02:26
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zeebleZotnix heh02:26
membreyawhat..only 5mb of updates today02:26
membreyahoary is slowin down02:26
ZotnixFull movies.02:27
zeeblekzm no. different laptop this time.02:27
ZotnixI think I downloaded The Matrix once.02:27
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da_bon_bonmembreya: i am lagging with 20mb. ofcourse, now that feature freeze has been done - no large updates02:27
membreyaZotnix: full games were more painful02:27
proZotnix, where you from?02:27
membreyafeature freeze? really?02:27
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da_bon_bonmembreya: yes.02:28
sic|workmorning or <insert appropriate greeting here>02:28
haydenhow can i change the font in gaim?02:28
ZotnixYep. Downloaded a movie on a broken 56k modem at that. A thin wafer broke off. My only guess could be that it transferred sound to the modem. I replaced it with a piece of aluminum foil.02:28
membreyagrrrrrr gnome just stripped my wallpaper02:28
haydenno in x-chat02:28
membreyayou bastard!02:28
ZotnixThis was on a laptop.02:28
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zeeblehayden change the thing in preferences. use Sans size 902:29
membreyaoh wait...it was just gnome updating :P02:29
Zotnixword of advice: Compaq laptops are... bad.02:29
membreyaZotnix: that's why I sold mine02:29
membreyahad a p4 2ghz02:29
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sic|workhayden: preferences--->default formatting--> click the font button02:30
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haydenok02:30
zeeblei have a dell inspiron 8500 that runs debian. and planning to install ubuntu on my stinkpad t41 when this downloads02:30
zeeblegot told earlier that ubuntu installs without a hitch. on the thinkpad.02:30
membreyazeeble: I didn't need my laptop so let it go real cheap (1k AUD) ... using an amd64 3200+ desktop now :)02:30
ZotnixMm. My laptop is what I install Red Hat 8 on. My first experience with Linux. Somehow muddled through and got the Conexant drivers (when they were free) to work.02:30
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sic|workthat isn't one of the inspirons dell recalled is it?02:30
zeeblemembreya lucky sod.02:31
sic|worksomething about power supply problems or something02:31
zeeblesic|work the inspiron 820002:31
Zotnixmembreya, did you have problems with the keyboard as well? And the back of the case breaking by the hinges?02:31
membreyaonly got a 120gb SATA drive though..almost out of space..going to pick up another 200gb02:31
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rommerUBhow can i get this http://www.bootsplash.de/files/themes/screenshots/Theme-Ubuntu-silent.png02:31
membreyaZotnix: no problems what so ever..but I hate brand name PCs / laptops02:31
ineedhelphi02:31
zeeblei already broke the inspiron once, when some coca cola spilled into it :/02:31
sic|workhttp://www.delladapterprogram.com/02:32
da_bon_bonhey, will hoary release use openoffice.org2 ?02:32
sic|workI thinik you can check there02:32
membreyarommerUB: you need to recompile your kernel after you download splashscreen support02:32
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Zotnixmembreya, my keys were falling out (they wanted 119 bucks for a replacement). My left arrow key had to be pushed hard to work.02:32
ZotnixEscape button failed completely.02:33
rommerUBsomeone shoudl make an easier way to do it02:33
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zeeble sic|work till dell inspiron 8100.02:33
bobdudeanyone wanna help me install ubuntu?02:33
zeebleand it has'nt given any problems so far.02:34
bobdudeim stuck02:34
membreyarommerUB: that's in discussion :P02:34
sic|workSo I looked around a bit and didn't find much...does anyone know if it is possible to put the repositories on cd for instances where you can't connect to the internet or don't have a connection?02:34
probobdude, yeah swing round my house tomorrow with your box, i'll install it for you02:34
membreyayes sic|02:34
sic|worklike make a set02:34
bobdudenp :)02:34
proOhmer, and bring a copy with, i dont have one yet02:34
membreyayou need to make your own repo :)02:34
zeeblesic|pic yes. you can.02:34
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sic|workis there a procedure in the forums?02:35
sic|workmaybe I didn't use the right keyword02:35
zeeblesic|pic apt-get install apt-setup create a local repository02:35
bobdudemy keyboard wont let me type to choose english02:35
bobdudedonno if it is freezeing before then or what02:36
membreyaother way is to get all your files from var/cache/apt/archives/ and burn it to CD and when you want to install it just do a sudo dpkg -i *.deb02:36
sic|workzeeble: thanks...other question is how do you use apt-get with a proxy?02:36
membreyabobdude: checked your capslock/numlock02:36
bobdudeits on02:36
membreyacan you turn it off / on?02:37
bobdude:)02:37
bobdudeill try02:37
zeeblesic|work just man apt-get :D then you have apt-proxy. just type apt-setup and it will tell you what to do.02:37
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sic|workduh02:37
sic|workhehe02:37
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membreyazeeble: you need to apt-get apt-proxy :P02:37
sic|workjust thought I would throw that question in there to save the extra research02:38
sic|work:)02:38
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zeeblewell,. yeah. once.02:38
sic|workthanks02:38
bobdudehmmm no good still02:38
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zeeblesic|work you got a http proxy?02:39
membreyahmmmmm want to make a local caching proxy server...anyone know the best package to use? (other than squid)02:39
bobdudeis there a command line i can try for a p4 sis661  seagate 40mb hdd02:39
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zeeblewwwoffle or so,ething02:40
membreyatalkin to me zeeble ? :|02:40
zeebleeyah02:40
beasti02:40
bobdudeauotinstall no good02:41
Stikwow this could take some getting used to..02:41
beasti am with some problems too02:41
bobdudeautoinstall02:41
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bobdude:(  isnt usef freindly02:41
zeeblemembreya it is'nt as good as squid though. squid is nice.02:41
beastthe mirror came with distro dont have all packages02:41
zeeblebobdude what's auto install?02:41
Nermalbeast, eh.. you added universe and multiverse ?02:41
membreyazeeble: squid requires 2 brain cells..3 more than I have02:41
zeeblemembreya lol02:42
Nermallike the huge comment in /etc/apt/sources.list says to ?02:42
beastyes i have clean the #02:42
Nermaland done an apt-get update ?02:42
bobdudepress f1 for help. or enter to boot :_02:43
Nermalbobdude, so press enter ?02:43
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bobdudeso i do enter n it freezes when i get asked for a language02:43
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zeebleDoes ubuntu allow me to install to specific partitions or not? or will it take over? o.o02:43
beasti have done it02:43
Nermalzeeble, sure it lets you02:43
beasti usualy use sarge02:43
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beasti now apt02:43
zeebleNermal good. i sort of assumed for a moment that "autoinstall" meant it took over :p02:44
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beasti have a durom 800 and are ok here02:44
membreyahey there Nermal02:44
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Nermallo membreya02:44
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beastthe problem is the k602:44
Nermalbeast, ew02:44
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zeebleleft 2 hrs 52 minutes02:45
membreyadoes webmin for squid work? :P02:45
Nermaldon't see why not02:45
zeeblelemme see if i can find a nice squid howto for you.02:45
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beastman squid02:46
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beastis nice i think02:46
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membreyalol beast02:47
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zeebleheh02:47
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bobdudehmmm free ran disk failed?02:48
bobduderam?02:48
bobdudehelp02:48
t_how can I get my usb mass storage working on ubuntu?02:49
Nermalplug it in02:49
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t_yeah but after?02:49
membreya:P02:49
Nermalt_, it should ge mounted auotmagically02:50
Nermalotherwise it will something like /dev/sda102:50
Nermaland mounted under /media/VOLUMENAME02:50
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membreyawb tritium :P02:50
protritium, nice nick02:50
membreyanet split02:50
membreyawow02:50
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Nermal*unshocker*02:51
protritium, do you know what tritium is?02:51
t_nermal, I just don't see it...02:51
javioloanyone know how to stop the apache2 server02:51
t_my ubuntu install is quite strange also: I don't have anything on my Desktop02:51
tritiumpro, of course I do02:51
Nermalt_, dmesg ?02:51
tritiummembreya, hello02:51
javiolojaviolo@ubuntu:~ $ /etc/init.d/apache2 stop02:52
javiolo * Stopping web server (Apache2)...02:52
javiolohttpd (pid 3970?) not running                                            [ ok ] 02:52
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javiolobut stills running02:52
Nermalkillall httpd ?02:52
Nermal>:)02:52
protritium, seen what it does in a vacume?02:52
beastlol02:52
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rommerUBwhat can i do with ubuntu while i go to bed?02:52
zeebleblah. I'll install when i wake up.02:52
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NermalrommerUB, upgrade to hoary ?02:52
t_nermal, what should I see in dmesg?02:52
tritiumpro, do yoU?02:52
Nermalfolding@home ?02:52
rommerUBcan i do that without reinstalling it?02:53
zeebleapt-get install kde xfce4 windowmaker enlightenment etc etc02:53
Nermalsomething like02:53
Nermalusb-storage: device found at 4402:53
Nermalusb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning02:53
Nermal  Vendor: Softick   Model: Card Export       Rev: 000102:53
Nermal  Type:   Direct-Access                      ANSI SCSI revision: 0002:53
NermalSCSI device sda: 498176 512-byte hdwr sectors (255 MB)02:53
protritium, yip, i used to play with that stuff when i was younger,02:53
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zeeblerommerUB edit /etc/apt/sources.list to reflect hoary from warty. then apt-get update apt-get dist-upgrade02:53
Nermalending in Attached scsi removable disk sda at scsi1, channel 0, id 0, lun 002:53
rommerUBok02:53
zeebleeep. flood.02:53
Nermalsorry :|02:54
rommerUBso whereever it says warty change to hoary?02:54
Nermal5 lines ish :|02:54
tritiumpro, and where did you get your hands on tritium?02:54
protritium, have you ever seen what would happen if tritium was fused with h3 ?02:54
zeeblerommerUB you better ask around. :p again.02:54
t_nermal, ok I got it then what?02:54
tritiumpro, yes, why do you keep asking me?02:54
NetwrkMonkeyhow close is the final hoary to coming out?02:54
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protritium, ummm, well if i told you that i would go to jail no? 8)02:54
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Nermalt_, then type mount02:54
rommerUBNermal, how can i go about updating to hoary?02:55
Nermaland see if it's mounted /dev/whatever anywhere02:55
t_nermal, mount what?02:55
Nermaljust mount02:55
selinium_rommerUB: www.ubuntuguide.org02:55
tritiumpro, for asking me questions?  no...02:55
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lunitikrommerUB: Its advised to just go install a daily snapshot or array...02:55
prono if i told you where i got tritium from, then i would be admitting to doing something against the law02:56
t_nermal, and after mount?02:56
NermalrommerUB, cat /etc/apt/sources.list |sed s/warty/hoary/g > /tmp/sources.list.hoary :P02:56
Nermalt_, well.. it should show it mounted somewhere..02:56
tritiumpro, I don't want to know, in that case...02:56
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probut i will say that in ZA its often used in glass tubes for lighting in emergency signs, for when there is a power outage02:57
rommerUBnermal, do u just copy that into terminal?02:57
t_nermal : I get this02:57
t_/dev/hdb2 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)02:57
t_proc on /proc type proc (rw)02:57
t_sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw)02:57
t_devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)02:57
t_tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)02:57
t_usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)02:57
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tritiumpro, If you want to see the real power of tritium, look at footage of atmospheric testing of thermonuclear devices02:57
Nermalreally helpful02:57
Nermalmount /dev/sda1 /mountpount ?02:57
trigx300hi can anyone help me im trying to install win fonts on ubuntu what do i do?02:57
plxwhich sound system is  best? alsa, esd or oss?02:57
Stikhas anyone installed this with reiserfs?02:57
Nermalplx, alsa probably02:57
NermalStik, aye02:58
plxoss is old, right?02:58
t_nermal: mount: you must specify the filesystem type02:58
kcsplx: but esd is a sound daemon02:58
StikIs there an option in the partition tool to use reiserfs?02:58
Nermaltrigx300, apt-get install msttcorefonts02:58
Nermalt_, -t auto ?02:58
tritiummembreya, what's new with you?02:58
Nermalwhat filesystem is it02:59
proanyway, back to work02:59
lunitikplx: alsa replaced oss... esd, artsd, polypaudio sit on top of that layer.02:59
Nermalplx, oss is old yes - depreciated would be a better word02:59
tritiumWhat's going on down under?02:59
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t_nermal, doesn't work too : mount -t auto /dev/sda1 /mountpount02:59
t_mount: you must specify the filesystem type02:59
kcsoh, my d its working again :)02:59
tritiumpro, no02:59
tritium?02:59
kcsddddddddd02:59
Nermalt_, then no kernel module is available for the fds02:59
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Nermalfs*02:59
kcs:)02:59
trigx300ok thanks03:00
Nermalt_, and why the hell are you putting /mountpount on the end >03:00
plxi see.. and gstreamer is something like alsa?03:00
t_nermal, because you told me to03:00
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lunitikplx: no... gstreamer is simular to esd etc... only serverless...03:01
Nermaldo you have a directory called that, or can't you tell thats any mountpoint and I am so tired of answering question after fucking question because people can't use man command that I misstyped "mountpoint" ?03:01
NermalI need food and the sodding accountant isn't in yet >:|03:01
tritiumyikes03:01
kcs:) i renamed all my files to *.old :)03:01
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plxand what does the sound daemon do? route events to the underlying sound system of something?03:02
plxor not of03:03
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Nermalplx, sort of03:03
lunitikplx: it handles software mixing... ie, handles allowing more than one process access to /dev/dsp, which is the alsa device node03:03
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tritium"to cover with sod; to turf"...wtf?03:03
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plxah.. so changing the "multimedia systems selector" in gnome preferences will just alter that, not my actual sound system03:04
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lunitikplx: the "Multimedia Systems Selector" is actually 'gstreamer-properties'...03:05
lunitikplx: totally different... only effects applications that use gstreamer framework03:06
Nermaltotem etc03:06
plxand rhythmbox?03:06
Nermalaye03:06
lunitikplx: yes03:06
Nermalbut not beeeeeep03:06
plxok, so they use the gstreamer framework which will route the stuff to some daemon/sink/stuff which will mix it and pass it to the also node.. (?)03:07
plxalsa node03:07
lunitikplx: on Ubuntu... (hoary in this example) ... for totem-gstreamer.... gstreamer > polypaudio > alsa03:08
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lunitikplx: polypaudio replaces esd...03:09
plxok.. and what's a "gstreamer sink" ? this would be polypaudio in your example?03:09
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lunitikplx: hmm... don't know about that  :(03:10
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queuetueHi.  Is anyone using mpd (the music player deamon)?  The stock install has problems opening the audio, and I'd like to see a working config...03:11
lunitikplx: I don't really understand the sink values etc... other than its where gstreamer throws things... yes, in my example, it would be polypaudio...03:12
plxok, that's what i was thinking too..03:13
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tritiumqueuetue, I haven't tried mpd, but I use gnump3d on my server at home03:16
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paddersis there a consensus of opinion about upgrading firefox 0.9.3 to 1.01 in Warty? sesnsible/not sensible/etc?03:21
dwa_why wouldn't you?03:22
dwa_i'm guessing 1.01 has less bugs03:22
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CicalaMvtaany recommendations for a streaming audio server for flac files?03:23
membreyagah ..how do you change the password for webmin03:23
membreyaand what's the default username?03:23
membreya:|03:23
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pregohello. Does anybody know why Hoary's Nautilus does not explore windows network? Keeps working but shows nothing at the end. Warty's used to do it even when samba was not installed.03:25
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evarlastCicalaMvta: no, but mpd will transcode to OGG.  It may even stream the flac, but I dunno for sure.03:26
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kcsprego: smbclient -L known_host03:27
mdkehas ubuntu got a bootsplash yet?03:27
kcsprego: display something?03:27
CicalaMvtaevarlast: thanks, i'll check that :)03:27
kcsprego: in terminal of course03:27
mdkeif not why not03:28
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solarwindsqustion, I am tring to start zssh and getting  out of pty's , why ??03:30
tritiumprego, did you try dpkg-reconfigure samba-common to make sure you've setup the workgroup/domain, etc?03:30
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solarwindshelllllooooo03:32
solarwindshelp ..03:32
Getsolarwinds: hi03:32
queuetueDo I want to configure applications to use alsa or esd?03:32
solarwindshi Get how are you ??03:32
Getnot too bad, what about you?03:33
solarwindsI am OK, I ask for a qustion and no one answer :-(03:33
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solarwindsGet, a qustion: I am tring to start zssh and getting  out of pty's , why ??03:35
solarwindswere are you from , Get03:35
solarwinds??03:35
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solarwindsGet, Are you from SWEDEN ???03:37
tritiummdke, work is being done on usplash03:37
queuetueWhere do I get video codecs?03:37
Getsolarwinds: yes03:38
SiliconViperHerm... k3b won't install, could someone suggest an alternate frontend for burning ISOs?03:38
mdketritium, it hasn't been released?03:38
StoffBox-Stevei have a prob, and maybe someone can tell me why :) > i want do use WebHTTrack but when i try to open it it say somethink like that : Cat access steve:8080 connection set back :03:38
solarwindsI worked there for a while....03:38
tritiummdke, no, not yet.  But it's advantage over bootsplash is that it'll run in userspace.03:38
mdketritium, they've been working on it for ages haven't they?03:38
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Getsolarwinds: in which town?03:39
AmaranthIlnfwtt: Stop.03:39
bagpuss_thecatIlnfwtt is a bot, can someone /kick him03:39
tritiummdke, ubuntu has only been around since about October.  I wouldn't really call that "ages" yet ;)03:39
solarwindsKarlskorna...03:39
solarwindsYou know Europolitan ??03:39
solarwindsYou know Europolitan (Vodafone) ??03:39
Getsolarwinds: yes03:40
dolsonare any of you guys SER users? as in the SIP proxy software03:40
solarwindsIt is very cold there now...03:40
Gethehe03:40
Xappesolarwinds, tell me about it, we had -30 C here in uppsala the day before yesterday03:41
solarwindsHo GOD, It is COLD :-(03:41
Amaranthtime to take it to freenode03:41
solarwindsI have 23C suny day..03:41
membreyagah03:42
membreyaI've locked my webmin03:42
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queuetueAre video codecs available from any repositories I could add to sources.list?03:45
pregokcs, true but I mean the "easy Nautilus way". Of course smbclient works03:45
fschmm. this is bizarre. all of a sudden .wmv work on totem out of the box03:45
tritiumprego, did you see my question above?03:45
pregotritium, Nautilus does not even show my shares, but if I do smb://localhost works. Also works if I do smb://the_machine_I_know_that_it_is_there03:46
kcsprego: ok, just check the network03:46
tritiumprego, I know.  I asked you if you ran dpkg-reconfigure samba-common03:46
pregotritium, no, is that required?03:46
pregotritium, my machine is serving as expected...03:47
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pregotritium, running right now03:47
tritiumprego, it might help if your workgroup/domain is not set right03:47
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PacoBCNHI ther03:48
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pregotritium, OK, may I restart nautilus now?03:48
PacoBCNAnyone managed to connect Nicotine?03:48
tritiumprego, no need.  You might want to log out of gnome and back in, though03:48
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pregotritium, I prefer restarting nautilus :-P03:49
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tritiumprego, good.03:49
kcs:)03:50
tritiumThat's all you should need to do, but for some users, logging out/in is just easier :)03:50
pregotritium, no luck. Nautilus does not browse de windows network. Smbclient -L works.03:50
pregotritium, also opening smb://machine works in Nautilus, It is just the browse thing that does not work.03:51
kcsprego: its couse smb, i think03:51
tritiumprego, not sure what to tell you.  It's working for me on Hoary.03:51
membreyahrm03:51
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membreyaanyone here use webadmin?03:51
queuetueAre common video codecs available from any repositories I could add to sources.list?03:51
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pregokcs, what you mean?03:52
proanyway all, i better be going03:52
Slack_Roxtry killing bonobo?03:52
prosee you all monday03:52
hank_Heya ubuntites, this is a kind of wierd question. It seems my apps dont shop up on the bottom bar anymore. Anyone heard of this?03:52
kcsprego: master browser03:52
kcsprego: they cant decide who will be that03:53
hank_I can still alt tab between them but the bottom bar is empty03:53
kcsprego: should03:53
pregokcs, so, can I do anything?03:53
Xappehank_, maybe you removed the window list applet?03:53
tritiumqueuetue, that's covered in ubuntuguide.or03:53
kcsprego: yes, pray03:53
tritium.org03:53
pregokcs, tritium My fault, firestarter was blocking the browse03:54
kcsprego: or you wait sometime maybe03:54
tritiumprego, ah, glad you found it03:54
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kcsprego: cool03:54
kcsoh, than i have question03:54
pregoSo the question is, what ports do I have open to browse windows netowrk?03:54
kcsfirestarter restarting himself when you stop it with /etc/init.d/firestart stop?03:55
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Xappeprego, probably the ones that the windows worms use to get in03:55
pregoXappe, ;-))03:55
Xappelike 445 and so on03:56
hank_Xappe. Ahh I see. How might I have done that and how might I get it back>03:56
Xapperight click the panel and choose "add to panel.."03:56
kcsmicrosoft-ds    445/tcp                         # Microsoft Naked CIFS03:56
kcsmicrosoft-ds    445/udp03:56
kentI know its not an Ubuntu issue, but my computer has problems with overheating. At normal usage (browsing internet, playing music) i have no issues. But if i ran seti or other programs that uses the system alot, it overheats and shutdown. What would be the most rational to do? Should i buy a new CPU fan, or should i invest in one of those chassi-fans?03:57
membreyawebmin isn't changing my password properly (using changepass.pl)03:57
Xappehank_,  and locate "window list"03:57
hank_ahh! bing. Thanks mate.03:57
Xappe:)03:57
pregokcs, Thank You, definitely ;-)) (I had 137-139 open and I guessed it was enough; now I have added 445 also and seems to be working)- of course only for local network ;-)03:59
evarlastkent: get a good CPU fan.03:59
pregokent, which arch?03:59
kcsprego: im glad03:59
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vrokkent: i had similar thing lately03:59
pregokent, SMP??03:59
vrokand03:59
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pregokcs, Not sure if as much as me ;-))))04:00
vrokthe cpu fan was full of little pices of papaer ;)04:00
kcsprego: :-))04:00
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kentevarlast, prego, its an amd XP 2400+.  So a chassi-fan will not make any difference?04:00
membreyaanyone have experiencing in establishing webmin ?04:00
evarlastkent: it might, but CPU fan is most important.04:01
marksbryHey guys, I have a problem..for some reason my cdrom isn't showing up...I see it in fstab but if I click on disks and try to access my cdrom I get an error "unable to mount selected volume" I had a similar problem in installation I have a sata hd and an ide cdrom...any ideas?04:01
pregokent, I have experienced problems and first of all make sure the cpu fan is working right, then perhaps try to cool the box also04:01
kentvrok, what did you do to solve it? Right now i run the computer without the side of the chassi on. That way it only shutsdown if the load is high..04:01
pregokent, My test was just for(int i=0; ; i++){ };04:02
marksbryunder show more details it says "/dva/had does not exist04:02
kentprego, the fan is working allright. But im no expert so i cant say if its working good enough. I see its spinning, thats all :)04:02
pregokent, stop the machine and try to spin the fan with the finger, if you notice any resistance the fan is broken (gripped - don't know if that is an english word )04:03
vincehey everyone, someone know this: does it make sense to run the smp kernel on a single but hyperthreaded pentium4 cpu?04:03
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pregokent, also if working listen to it ...04:03
vidar_Linux BLACKPOWER 2.6.10-4-386 #1 Wed Mar 2 06:11:58 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux04:03
vrokkent: i used a vacuumcleaner ;P04:04
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pregokent, you may also try the machine with the box open04:04
vrokkent: and it worked04:04
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vrokkent: and i had exactly the same thing - i couldn't complie anything longer than 10 minutes04:04
pregovince, I have seen that. Perhaps it is the only way to use hyperthreading, if hyperthreading is useful afterall.04:05
hank_Is anyone familiar with ndiswrapper? I want the 'modprobe ndiswrapper' to automatically be a part of the boot process04:05
membreyahank_: why not just add it to /etc/modules?04:06
kentvrok, you just vacumcleaned it for dust so it could spin faster?04:07
vrokkent: yes04:07
hank_yeah I tried that with the echo command but it said accesss denied04:07
vrokkent: but it was _full_ of dust and other dirty stuff04:08
hank_Mmm, stranger yet, I have no modules directory04:08
hank_Shall I just create one?04:08
membreyahank_: modules is a file04:09
membreyanot a directory04:09
membreyasudo nano -w /etc/modules04:09
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hank_ahh okay. well Then for some reason permission is denied04:10
membreyahank04:10
membreyadid you use sudo04:11
hank_yeah04:11
hank_is this right echo ndiswrapper >> /etc/modules04:11
hank_with the sudo ofcourse04:12
membreyajust use nano04:12
hank_what is bano?04:12
pregoups looks like more ports are required for smb browsing ???04:12
hank_nano04:12
vrokhank_: text editor04:12
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hank_ahh. I'll try that'04:12
membreyavi for dummies like me04:12
membreyawebmin isn't changing my password properly (using changepass.pl)04:13
vrokyou can use gedit as wall04:13
vrokwell04:13
hank_strange. I cant modify the file at all04:14
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hank_its properties indicate it is available to the superuser04:14
marcowhat command for list the packages please?04:15
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scizzomarco: that is installed?04:16
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marcoyes04:17
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theineso KDE made it into main already...04:17
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Riddelltheine: yes04:18
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hank_Seems that sudo is impervious to the modification of modules. I was able to modify it in Root04:19
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theinehank_: say that again?04:21
pregoI finally have not managed to configure firestarter to let browse windows network properly... :-(( seems that it is quite tricky from what I've read from firestarter mailing list. I will turn off the firestarter just for browsing whenever I need it again :-((04:25
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hank_I tried to modify etc/modules using the echo command in a terminal with sudo. It couldn't modify the file. I had to open the root terminal to run modify modules04:27
hank_thiene ^04:27
hank_sorry theine ^04:27
membreyaanyone have experiencing in establishing webmin ?04:28
promembreya, depends what you mean by "establishing"04:28
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membreyapro: trying to logon and it keeps saying authentication failed04:29
membreyayes I've changed the password04:29
proyour password is wrong then04:29
membreyasudo /usr/share/webmin/changepass.pl /etc/webmin root password04:29
proand where did you change it?04:29
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pregohank_, I guess you did "sudo echo "module" > /etc/modules", didn't you?04:30
evarlastOH NO!04:30
evarlast>> not > !04:30
membreyathats right isnt it pro?04:31
pregoevarlast, YES!04:31
promembreya, i dont know if that would work, and is the user name not admin ?04:31
pregoevarlast, sorry04:31
membreyapro: it says the only user is root04:31
pregohank_, sorry for the >04:31
membreyahow else do you change the password without being able to login?04:31
evarlastmembreya: boot single user mode and create a user.04:32
promembreya, mmm, well, how about removing it, and its config (dpkg --purge webmin) and reinstall it? it will ask a password in the setup04:32
promembreya, or try the password of the root user04:32
membreyai used apt-get :(04:32
membreyahrmmm04:32
probecause you can setup webmin to use pam auth04:32
proand maybe yours is using system auth, and not its own auth?04:33
hank_Whats a splash screen?04:33
prohank_,  is a glass plate the you put by the urinal so stop pissing on your shoes04:34
prohank_, or its a little picture that pops up to show you that a program is loading04:34
hank_hahahahhah. I need one, I wear sandles!04:35
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hank_can they come up during boot instead of the logging?04:36
hank_splashscreens I mean04:36
prohank_, that would be called bootsplash04:36
schweebany specific reason why gnome-cd and goobox would be able to see a CD, be able to extract the tracks from it, but not be able to actually play it? (Hoary)  dmesg isn't saying any kernel errors or anything04:36
proits a project by one of the Suse guys, you get kernel patches for it04:36
hank_ahh cool. Any tutes on this?04:36
hank_ahh, so it dont work with ubuntu'04:37
probootsplash.org i think it is04:37
psischweeb: probably because you haven't connected an audio cable from the cd to you sound card04:37
hank_thanks, I;ll check it out04:37
prohank_, it works with any dist that has a linux kernel04:37
psiyour*04:37
schweebpsi: no04:37
schweebit's a laptop04:37
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schweebit's always worked before04:37
hank_Awesome, i gotta fire one up04:38
marcohow to view a list of packages?(command line) thanks04:38
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psischweeb: ok04:38
schweebmarco: installed or available04:38
proschweeb, i have the same problem on my laptop, the driver on windows gets around this, i have not found a way in linux to do it, then again i have not looked for a way04:38
proi just ripperx and gogo the files into mp304:38
psischweeb: perhaps it's worth trying a program that uses digital sound extraction04:39
schweebyea, if it were an audio cable, the CD would appear to play, but wouldn't put out any sound04:39
marcoboth04:39
schweeb"dpkg -l" shows installed04:39
ranceI just installed ubuntu and the first thing I needed to do was enable the root account, so when I type "sudo passwd root" from a terminal I get a password prompt, whats the default root password for a ubuntu install04:39
marcothanks04:39
schweebor "dpkg --get-selections"04:39
psischweeb: it doesn't even appear to be playing now?04:40
schweebto locate a package, type "apt-cache search pkg"04:40
prorance, maybe its asking you to set one04:40
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schweebrance: do you really want to enable root?04:40
protype one you will remember and see what it does04:40
schweebyou can use sudo to do everything you can with root04:40
virtualdrance: nothing, it,s your user password04:40
schweeband sudo asks for your account's password, not root's password04:40
membreyagah ... I give up on webmin04:41
proschweeb, anyone would want to, you cant work your system without root04:41
ranceoh really04:41
schweebpro: wrong04:41
schweebthe root account must exist04:41
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schweebbut sudo gives you root privileges04:41
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schweebwithout root needing a password04:41
cybaneI GOT THE JOB!!!!04:41
siggletwhat job is that cybane ?04:42
cybaneWorking for Cardinal Health in Dublin Ohio doing Tech Support04:42
Xappehmm, if I install Hoary on my ibook without partitioning the drive, is it easy to reinstall osx again later on? I mean, I assume that osx is not used to the fact that another system is on the drive...04:42
proschweeb, dont tell me wrong, i been using linux since 96 and have used more types of unix than you knew existed, you have to know your own root account or sooner or later you will be fuct04:42
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larsrohdinwhat program do you prefer? Gaim or amsn?04:43
njanpro, you're wrong :)04:43
schweebpro: omg you are l33t04:43
membreyagaim :)04:43
schweebstfu plz, pro04:43
schweebI've been using linux as long as you04:43
schweeband I am a sysadmin04:43
prono im not leet, im experenced04:43
njanpro, so are half the people here04:43
psiheh..04:43
schweeband I say you are wrong04:43
schweeband I am absolutely right.04:43
psipro: how will you be "fuct"?04:44
njanpro, I work in IT and I've been using linux for longer than you have, and I've almost certainly used as many unix variants as you have - and you're most definitely wrong.04:44
lokwhat's the probleme?04:44
larsrohdinwhats wrong?04:44
evarlastpro: tell that to apple!  ;)04:44
schweebhi evarlast04:44
wezzer-use sudo...04:44
evarlastsup schweeb.04:44
evarlast:)04:44
wezzer-it's in the FAQ too04:44
pregoFinally seems that I did it: to allow smb browsing with firestarter, open ports 137-139, 445 and 32780-32900 to the local network machines (in my case 172.26.0.1/24)04:44
lokwhat did he say?04:44
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larsrohdinschweeb, what is worng?04:44
schweeblarsrohdin: nothing04:44
larsrohdin=(04:45
schweeblarsrohdin: someone wants to set the root password04:45
schweeblarsrohdin: and I recommended they use sudo04:45
pregoPerhaps they are so much ports open that the firewall is almost a fire-hole :-P04:45
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schweeblarsrohdin: then pro shot off about how you absolutely need root or something04:45
larsrohdinschweeb, ok...04:45
proi didnt say you absolutely need it04:45
Xappeprego, quite funny that those are the ports that the recent windows worms scan04:46
ranceI just didnt know that sudo asked for your own user password wasnt sure why that was needed since ive already logged in04:46
tritiumprego, ubuntu doesn't have many services listening on any ports unless you set them up.  Why the need for a firewall?04:46
pro i said "you cant work your system without root"04:46
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larsrohdinits very inividual what you like... but i don't belive that you need root-account... but sometimes maybe its easier..04:46
LinuxJonescybane, congrats on the new job :)04:46
Xappetritium, I use one for NAT:ing purposes04:46
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evarlastsudo su -04:47
pregotritium, say that I want to run a firewall (just in case, because it is cool, because it is opposite to windows, because I enable other services ubuntu does not come with, because I don't know much about firewalls...)04:47
evarlastsudo -s04:47
schweebhttp://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo04:47
Xappetritium, only two MAC addresses allowed / student apartment here04:47
evarlastsudo bash --login04:47
Xappe:/04:47
schweebthere ya go, all the info you need on working w/o root04:47
larsrohdinwhen i first tried Ubuntu, i was desperate for a root account, but then i learn to use sudo, and i like it better... but still i have have a root-account, so i can have a terminal with root open...if i want...04:48
ranceexcept how to install software that wants a root password and you dont have one04:48
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schweebrance: in ubuntu, whenever it asks for a privileged password, use your own password04:48
pregotritium, also "because I can" ;-))04:48
tritiumXappe, cool, I do mac filtering with my wireless AP/router04:48
tritiumprego, that's cool :)04:48
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membreyahmmmmm just found out something different with webmin...if I let the webpage sit there for 1 minute or so the process dies04:49
schweebrance: sudo allows you to masquerade as root, and ubuntu is patched to all hell to allow you to sudo everything04:49
pregotritium, however I'm glad you tell me that it is almost not necessary04:49
ranceok04:49
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ranceso how do I keep other users from sudo'ing stuff04:50
evarlastmembreya: webmin is launched from xinetd maybe?04:50
tritiumprego, it's up to you, of course :)04:50
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Nermalrance, visudo ?04:50
membreyaeverlast: I've set it to be inetd04:50
psirance: you can control that through /etc/sudoers04:50
ranceok04:50
schweebrance: the first installed account is allowed to sudo, all the others you would have to explicitly allow04:50
Xappeshorewall kicks firestarters...ehm...behind04:50
ranceah, ok, that makes sense04:50
schweebsince, generally, the person who installs the system and sets up the first account would be the primary/admin user04:51
rancewish the install docs made a better point of this04:51
schweebI thought they did04:51
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tritiumrance, that's on the wiki and in the FAQ04:51
schweebthere's definitely a lot on the wiki04:51
tritiumit should be one of the first things you read when investigating ubuntu04:51
ranceI couldnt get to the wiki in the install, im talking about the install sequence04:52
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membreyagah ...damn you webmin..stop failing the password!04:55
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membreyayou betcha tritium ...there's NO reason ... !@#@!#!@(04:56
CarlKanyone have a vnc viewer recomendation?04:56
tritiumWith arms waving in the air...04:56
rancesomeone who has used this ubuntu for awhile, Im needing an apache, domain mail with virtual users, and a postgresql server, can ubuntu do this, and can you point me to any special instructions if appropriate04:56
CarlKxtightvncviewer or svncviewer04:56
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tritiumCarlK, isn't the Terminal Server Client (tsclient) installed by default for you?04:57
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CarlKill check04:57
membreyafix it tritium :(04:57
schweebrance: open synaptic and select said packages, or apt-cache search and apt-get install them04:57
tritiummembreya, I'd have to be familiar with webmin first, don't you think?  ;)04:58
CarlKim trying to run an app on a win2000 box running UltraVNC server- will TS client help?04:58
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tritiumCarlK, yes.  It even supports RDP04:58
tritiumSo you don't really need to setup VNC if you just want to enable RDP on the windows box instead04:58
membreyawhat's the dpkg command to reconfigure a package?04:59
tritiumdpkg-reconfigure04:59
CarlKso I see.. thanks04:59
membreya:P04:59
tritiumyou can also specify priorities, membreya04:59
tritiumCarlK, np04:59
CarlKhow do I enable RDP on win2k?04:59
membreyaAn initial version of this password file has been generated for you. It   05:00
membreya  contains only a 'root' user, with the password copied from the password file.05:00
membreyahow the hell does that make sense!05:00
membreyacopied from WHAT password file!05:00
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CarlKmembreya - the great password file05:01
CarlKthat will come down and give candy to all the children of the world05:01
membreyafacetiousness is so helpful05:01
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virtualdmembreya: /etc/shadow05:02
membreyavirtuald: it references root and has root:*:12827:0:99999:7:::05:03
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virtualdIf  the  password field contains some string that is not05:05
virtuald       valid result of crypt(3), for instance ! or *, the  user  will  not  be05:05
virtuald       able to use a unix password to log in, subject to pam(7).05:05
virtualdManual page shadow(5) line 2605:05
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membreyain webmin directory I've used the perl script to change the password..miniserv.users shows the root as being root:11DqO6mvHZt1Q05:06
evarlastmembreya: ya?  that is a std crypt password.05:06
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vixusHey, are there any programming IDEs out there that have a Form Designer?05:07
membreyahmmmm could I manually type the password into that file without encryption? :P05:07
evarlastvixus: not really IDE.  but glade will let you form design.05:07
vixusDoesn't KDevelop have one?05:07
vixusAt least... I've seen tutorials that use it.05:08
LinuxJonesvixus, for C ?05:08
vixusC++05:08
LinuxJonesvixus, ahh05:08
vixusI was using kylix, but i like C++ better than pascal.05:08
Riddellvixus: yes, KDevelop has a very good integrated GUI designer05:08
vixusAh, good news.05:09
vixusKDevelop will run on GNOME?05:09
evarlastI forgot about kdevelop, yes it embeds qt designer.  qtdesigner is very good too.... both C++05:09
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evarlastvixus: it will run on/in gnome, but you will be writing KDE apps.05:09
evarlastmembreya: no, but you can use mkpasswd to encrypt a new password and past into that file.05:09
vixusHow can I run apps that will run on both?05:09
vixus*code05:09
evarlastvixus: all apps run on/in both.05:09
LinuxJonesvixus, there is a good one for Python that tries to mimic Delphi05:10
evarlastvixus: its a matter of which is targetted.05:10
marcoi love ubuntu guys!!!!05:10
marcothanks a lot05:10
marcobye05:10
vixusLinuxJones: Link?05:10
hawke_I prefer Ubuntu girls, but to each his/her own...05:11
vixusevarlast: ok.05:11
membreyagah05:11
membreyastill failing05:11
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Echylohow to split a mp3 with a cue file? I can't find it in audacity so...05:11
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vixusALSO... in xchat, how can i edit the server list directly?05:11
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LinuxJonesvixus, it's called boa-constructor it's in universe repo, but again it's for th Python language.05:12
vixuspython's good too05:12
lokvixus, for xchat edit ~/.xchat2/servlist_.conf05:12
LinuxJonesvixus, ;)05:12
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LinuxJonesvixus, >> http://boa-constructor.sourceforge.net/05:13
Echylosomeone?05:13
Echylomp3, cue ? :'(05:13
hawke_Echylo: I am not aware of any way to do so..05:14
LinuxJonesEchylo, you have a big mp3 with a few songs you want to seperate ?05:14
Amaranthyou can do it manually05:14
Echyloyes05:14
Echyloa 80mp305:14
LinuxJonesEchylo, the songs are in 1 mp3 file and you want to seperate them right ?05:14
Echylo80mb05:14
Echyloyes05:14
EchyloI have a cue file05:14
AmaranthEchylo: Did you ever search on google?05:14
Echyloyes05:15
Echyloand I find software for XP05:15
Echylomp3 splitter05:15
EchyloI used it on XP05:15
LinuxJonesEchylo, you can use audacity but you will need to install the mp3 encoder 1 sec I will get it for you05:15
Amaranth"mp3splt is part of the hoary repository"05:15
Echylolinuxjones05:15
EchyloI tried audacity05:15
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vixuswhat about Firefox 1.0 for ubuntu? I'm surprised it's not here.05:15
hawke_Echylo: Can't the burner just handle a .cue file?05:15
AmaranthEchylo: mp3splt05:15
vixusbrb05:15
EchyloI don't need to burn it05:15
Amaranthvixus: 1.0 wasn't out when warty froze05:16
Amarantherr05:16
hawke_Echylo: Are you trying to burn a large mp3 as several tracks, or split an mp3 into several mp3s?05:16
AmaranthEchylo: mp3splt!05:16
vidarHow do i mount a ntfs partition in ubuntu?05:16
LinuxJonesEchylo, you need audacity and libmad005:16
Amaranthhey, when did ubuntubot die?05:16
Echylook05:17
AmaranthEchylo: mp3splt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!05:17
EchyloYES!05:17
Amaranth*headdesk*05:17
Echyloquit it! I can read05:17
lokvidar, with the command mount -t ntfs /dev/youpartition /mountpoint05:17
AmaranthEchylo: So use it already. :P05:18
LinuxJonesEchylo, you will then need to tell audacity where the library is under File >> Preferences >> File Formats >> Mp3 Export Setup05:18
AmaranthEchylo: Was third result in google for "split mp3 with cue"05:18
vidari dont know my partition. /dev is empty05:18
Echylohey linux05:18
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Echylosssht, thanks but I already tried :)05:19
LinuxJonesEchylo, it's >> /usr/lib/libmad.so.005:19
LinuxJonesEchylo, when you see the filter select "all files"05:19
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lokvidar, /dev is empty O_o05:19
lokvidar, does your ntfs partition is in the primary hd ?05:20
lokthe master05:20
vidarnope05:20
vidarits a slave05:21
EchyloI'll try it later linuxjones, thanks, Amaranth I have warty, so I can't down it, and I gtg05:21
LinuxJonesEchylo, sorry that was audacity and liblame005:21
LinuxJonessorry my mistake05:21
Echylobut how to split them with the cue file then?05:21
Amaranthyeah mad decodes, lame encodes05:21
AmaranthEchylo: http://mp3splt.sourceforge.net/05:21
Amaranthcompile from source05:22
LinuxJonesEchylo, throw that .cue file away you can just mark each mp3 manually then export it as a single song.05:22
_d4vidhi all05:22
Echylok05:22
AmaranthEchylo: I think I might have found something with audacity, hang on.05:23
Amaranthnevermind, that's for playing your huge file with a cue sheet in foobar200005:24
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andreas_Hello.05:29
andreas_I have a question about the new version of openoffice. Have anyone tried it out yet?05:30
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vidarhow do i give my user access to use my ntfs drive?05:32
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_Xavi_vidar: mount it ;)05:33
vrokvixus: mount with umask=02205:34
_Xavi_umask=022205:34
vixus?!!05:34
vixusMount what. o_O05:34
vrokvixus: uch ;)05:34
vidarit is mounted, but only the root user can view it05:34
vrokvixus: open /etc/fstab05:34
vixusYou're speaking to the wrong guy, vrok.05:35
_Xavi_vidar: edit the mount options in fstab05:35
vidar?05:35
_Xavi_append ,umask=022205:35
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vrokvixus: as a root, type 'gedit /etc/fstab'05:35
_Xavi_vidar: open a terminal and type "nano /etc/fstab"05:35
_Xavi_bah, vrok can help you :p05:36
vixus...05:36
vrokvixus: then find line with the ntfs partition05:36
vixus....05:36
vrokvixus: and then, add ',umask=0222' to fourth column05:36
vixuswhy?05:36
vidaryep, im in /etc/fstab05:37
vrokarhg05:37
vrokdamn irssi, damn tabl completion05:37
vixusvrok.... heh.05:39
vrokvixus: sorry :)05:39
vixusNp.05:39
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andreas_Anyone here that had any luck installing openoffice 2?05:44
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andreas_23Guys?05:45
vixushow come there ain't FF1.0 for Ubuntu?05:45
andreas_There is... I`m using it05:46
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hawke_andreas_: I've got ooffice2 installed05:46
hawke_andreas_: no problem05:46
CicalaMvtaff?05:46
hawke_CicalaMvta: firefox05:47
andreas_hawke_ Have you still got that lame crossed out splash screen as in the 1.9s?05:47
CicalaMvtaooops :)05:47
hawke_andreas_: I don't find it to be lame, but yes05:48
StoffBox-Stevei think hoary has FF1. vixus , but dont know i installed it manuell05:48
vixusi want to install it manually too.05:48
vixuslater.05:48
andreas_hawke_ I jsut find it a bit strange that the Debian guys have got the new one but we don`t05:48
CicalaMvtaworks fine on warty too. just dl and unpack the binaries05:48
andreas_sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox - that will get you going05:50
StoffBox-Steveright CicalaMvta, Use or Install  both goes :)05:50
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lunitikandreas_: umm.. most people will already have firefox installed... reason for firefox being at 0.9 in warty as due to Java related issues amoungst other things05:51
andreas_lunitik I`m aware of the fact that most people allready have it - that`s just the way I managed to update it in Warty05:52
lunitikandreas_: probably only because you have warty-updates enabled in sources.list05:52
andreas_lunitik I hounoustly cannot remember whether I had... Using Hoary now05:53
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lunitikandreas_: same here  :)05:53
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andreas_Have a question though05:53
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andreas_I`m new to linux but would like some RSS feeds to integrate with the desktop. Is that possible?05:54
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kentDo Dell have some special format on their mainboards, or is it easy to change the mainboard to a new one? My brother has a P4 motherboard, but since it stoped working he is thinking of buying a cheap AMD one..05:54
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StoffBox-Steveyes andreas_ , gdesklets can make that, i think05:54
zxhey google http://www.tcpsecurity.com/ :)05:54
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ellscan anyone tell me how to execute a .run file05:54
lunitikells: ./whatever.run?05:55
scizzoells: chmod +x file.run05:55
andreas_Ohh... I`ve heard that gdesklets should be both difficult and unstable05:55
hawke_ells: usually, sh whatever.run05:55
scizzoells: ./file.run05:55
lunitikells: after doing what scizzo said05:55
ellsokay05:55
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ellsthe file is ut2004-lnx-demo3334.run05:56
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yqyq22I have a problem with a network printers05:56
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scizzoells: and....?05:56
StoffBox-Steveruns fine by mine .. but i only using it for some info ( FAN CPU TEMP EMAIL DATE ) .. and only very basic think not grafikstuff ...05:56
ellsokay, I tried your guys commands, they did not work05:56
yqyq22there is a printer xerox that is joined to a microsoft windows200 server05:57
hawke_ells: what error message?05:57
scizzoells: details please05:57
ellsone second05:57
yqyq22I would like to install my printer05:57
andreas_stoffBox How do you set it up after installing?05:57
yqyq22I don't have a output05:57
andreas_Date, mail, ethernet sounds fine05:58
ellsI will be quiet, it is working now, thanks05:58
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unamausl05:58
unamausjeu05:58
unamaushello?05:59
unamauswho05:59
StoffBox-Steveinstall it and than you can find it under > Application > "extras" *german its "zugehr" > gdesklets... than simple doppelklick what you want and paste it on the desktop ...05:59
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andreas_Stoffbox: Sounds neat but it soesn`t come with apt-get, doesit? I cannot find it.05:59
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unamausi need help i can't seem to get my 3 other SCSI drives to show06:00
StoffBox-Steveor you can go on the Console and use > gdesklets shell06:00
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IRCslothanyone here have a good lightwight terminal? One that offers tabs like kterm or gnome terminal would be nice.06:00
thorNAnyone know a good file server program?06:00
lunitikIRCsloth: no such thing as 'kterm'... konsole06:01
IRCslothI'm on a P4 2.4ghz box with 1GB ram and full screen text scrolling is using almost all my cpu..06:01
evarlastIRCsloth: gnome-terminal?  its not so heavy.06:01
IRCslothI think it's font related06:01
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stingaaanyone installed linux-wlan-ng06:01
unamauscan anyone direct me to a site that could show how to get multiple scsi drives to show?06:01
StoffBox-Steve*args* desktop frezze06:01
evarlastIRCsloth: there is a bug in hoary X right now.  makes things SLOW06:02
IRCslothif I shell into a box and do a compile or a large directory listing my CPU goes to 100% while the screen in scrolling.. maybe I'm lookiung an an nvidia driver problem06:02
unamauschat and to get an dual monitors working on an ati06:02
unamausargh06:02
IRCslothI was running haory but I went back to Warty+backports last week due to the slowness06:02
unamaussorry about that earlier one, mud..hehe06:02
StoffBox-Steveyou can get it over apt-get .. but dont ask me what you source you need in the list .. i have you more that the basics06:03
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evarlastIRCsloth: so you are running Xfree4 and not Xorg?06:03
yqyq22strange, the printer is ready, i launch a print and I see "printing=job printing" in the state06:04
IRCslothevarlast: xfree 4.3.006:05
yqyq22I have a xerox docuprint-N3206:05
unamausi'm very new to ubuntu and would like very much to get my dual monitors to work as well as get my scsi drives to show can anyone help me?06:05
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IRCslothand the Nvidia package06:05
StoffBox-Stevefor dual head you need to set up the 2nd monitor in the xorg or xfree86 config  yqyq22, just google a bit and you need usefull stoff :D06:06
olyis it an nvidia dual head card ?06:07
unamausati radeon 980006:07
evarlastIRCsloth: maybe it is a config issue?  is glxgears SUPER FAST?06:07
IRCslothlet me check06:07
olyah, dont know, but i had hours of fun setting up my nvidia for dual heads, could of given you the config, but it will be different if its radeon06:08
yqyq22ok, my output is Printing: Connection failed with error NT_STATUS_UNSUCCESSFUL06:08
blizahi get the error that my pnpbios has caused a fatal error when i boot, is this something to worry about?06:08
StoffBox-Steveoly, you can show me your config :) have a Nvidia dual card but not set it up right know ... :)06:08
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unamausits ok, hopefully there will be something in the ubuntuforums soon06:09
=== oly hopes some one rights a config prog for the xorg and xf86config files one day :p
=== StoffBox-Steve mee too oly :D
hawke_yqyq22: Is that printer connected to the network?06:09
yqyq22yes06:09
unamauschat what about scsi drives?06:09
yqyq22is ready06:09
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unamaussorry bout that again hehe i keep typing chat06:10
vixusok, I installed firefox 1.01, how do I make it the default browser?06:10
IRCslothglxgears is plenty fast... except when a terminal is scrolling.. like right now with irssi06:10
IRCsloth10693 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2138.600 FPS06:10
IRCsloth16471 frames in 5.0 seconds = 3294.200 FPS06:11
vixusplease>06:11
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StoffBox-Stevevixus, in console  > gnome-default-applications-properties  and then set up the path06:11
yqyq22seems that I need samba06:11
yqyq22i googled06:11
hawke_yqyq22: Why not print directly to the printer?06:11
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hawke_yqyq22: rather than the windows print share?06:12
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Slack_Roxok first things first.. fix these nasty default fonts :|06:13
unamausseems the howtos only help for ide drives06:13
unamausno scsi help06:13
olycan i add to the menu in hoary ? or create a new menu ?06:13
olythe add option does not seem to exist like it did in warty06:13
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yqyq22the printer is shared, I' m directly connected06:14
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yqyq22and I' ve permission06:14
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unamausanybody?06:14
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memerany plans for xubuntu (xfce4 on ubuntu)? and how about some gui admin tools like libranet's adminmenu or SuSE's YaST?06:19
olymemer, cant you just add xfce4 from synaptic ?06:20
CicalaMvtasuse's yast? =:O06:20
memerwell, i suppose. just thinkin if kubuntu is out, mebbe one step further?06:20
memercicalamvta: well, the general gist anyway is quickie admin control.06:21
Blissexmemer: I think someone is doing KUbuntu, which is a lot of a better idea than XUbuntu...06:22
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memerand by "one step further" i mean doing up a low(er)-resource desktop.06:22
willwho runs hoary here?06:23
pussfellerthere should be a CLUbuntu06:23
CicalaMvta*lol*06:23
memerblissex: why so? and i wasn't thinking in terms of a either/or. could do em both06:23
pussfellerwith no xerver06:23
Blissexbut then, if Kanotix and Knoppix are out too, KUbuntu is a lot less cool than if they weren't.06:23
CicalaMvtanot even ncurses? *gg*06:23
Blissexpussfeller: well, that sort of can bre achieved now...06:23
pussfellerno thats NCubuntu06:23
stingaaxan someone help me with my wireless usb net adapter06:24
stingaacan*06:24
BlissexWhy no TUbuntu, using the Curses based window system/manager Twin?06:24
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Blissexstingaa: you should ask questions directly, not ask if some can help you about some generic subject!06:24
memer;-)06:24
pussfellerthere could be pybuntu which boots to a python shell06:24
memerjust sayin06:24
stingaahow do i get my wireless network adapter working on ubuntu?06:25
memerawright comedians ... well, so how about a yast/adminmenu clone?06:25
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pussfellerwhich actually i wonder why we use bash when python would seem to be better06:25
Blissexmemer: There are plenty of those an 'apt-get' away.06:25
memer? you can get adminmenu or yast via apt-get? surely you jest too far06:26
stingaa:\06:26
Blissexmemer: not exactly those, but n00b-helper admin apps. You know, 'webmin', 'linuxconf' style things.06:26
tritiumwe don't need no stinkin' adminmenu or yast06:26
zenroxnope06:27
zenroxi left linuxconf bhind 2 years ago06:27
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pussfellerthere should be at least a common framework for system administration guis to work with06:27
zenroxthe comand line = linux conf06:28
zenroxhehehe06:28
CicalaMvtayou mean something like debconf? :)06:28
memer! wow. i beg to differ. webmin and linuxconf are not the same as libranet's adminmenu.  if you haven't actually seen/used it, then don't bother commenting. it really is a useful tool. espeically for noobs, which is  a key target audience for ubuntu no? i'm surprised at youse.06:28
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stingaasigh, how can something as easy as getting on the net take so long06:29
pussfelleri dont like webmin06:29
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tritiummost things are configurable with gnome tools by now anyway06:29
tritiumif you really want a gui06:29
zenroxpussfeller, i dont like having to open a port on my firewall if i installed webmin06:29
memerme neither. it pales in comparison to (say) adminmenu. honestly, it's worth a look. if you guys could add that to ubuntu, it would take it a def step toward ma an pop penetration06:29
memercan you install flash or java with gnome tools?06:30
tritiumyeah, synaptic can install flashplugin06:30
memerfind an adminmenu (libranet) review and you'll see what i mean06:30
GammaRaycan ubuntu nondestructively resize ntfs during the install?06:31
tritiumjava has licensing issues06:31
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memerall from ONE place, my friends06:31
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pussfellerdoes java make you come tot heir site to download06:31
pussfelleri think they used to06:31
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memernot sure how it works in libranet06:31
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coronerthere is a very basic gui for samba file sharing in fedora 1, is there a similar thing for ubuntu, im running warty06:32
selinium_Hi all, the is a deb install of skype at http://www.skype.com/products/skype/linux/ HOw do i get this on my machine? Sorry i am new to all this! :)06:32
Deftdoes anyone know if rosetta is supposed to be working properly at the moment?06:32
GammaRaycoroner: browsing or creating shares?06:33
tritiumman, libranet has 2.4 kernel and XFree86 still?06:33
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zenroxselinium_, id get the tar.gz of skype06:33
coronerGammaRay: creating06:33
Deftcoroner, yes there is, the gnome-system-tools one06:33
Deftcoroner, but it's only included in hoary06:33
selinium_zenrox: But if i can sort out the deb won't it keep intself updated?06:33
memerfrom one review: "Plug-ins like Flash, RealPlayer and Java can be added using this tool (RealPlayer has to be first downloaded as its location on the web never stays constant), modules can be added, your monitor DPI can be adjusted and your sound can be set up. I even did a kernel recompile using this power-tool."06:33
pussfellerskype any good?06:33
virtualdselinium_: it's in the FAQ06:33
GammaRayDeft: is that the one I keep seeing in gnome 2.10 previews?06:34
zenroxselinium_,  only if you keep up to date on the skype site06:34
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coronerahh thanks Deft, april is the stable release date for hoary yeah?06:34
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kentIRCsloth, does it also eat CPU if you minimize the window?06:34
zenroxselinium_, its sudo dpkg -i skype*.deb06:34
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TPCnow this is weird. I get no sound when I try to play a video in ubuntu, and when I try to play it in mplayer I doesn't even show the video. sound only works fine in mplayer.06:35
blizahnot now06:35
TPCs/ubuntu/totem/06:35
Deftcoroner, yes, hoary is the 5.04 release06:35
zenroxtpc do you have the wincodec32 package installed06:36
TPCzenrox, yes. it worked fine yesterday.06:36
zenroxTPC,  maby the video settings got changed06:37
TPCI'm on hoary if that makes a difference, and I updated this morning06:37
selinium_zenrox: Like i say i am new to linux. what does dpkg mean?06:37
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zenroxselinium_,  thats the comandline command like rpm06:37
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Xappehmm, how can I read a cd created with HFS+ in linux?06:37
zenroxselinium_,  but for debs06:37
TPCzenrox, and changed video settings shouldn't make mplayer crash06:38
selinium_Cheers zenrox, i now have Skype!06:38
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TPCMPlayer interrupted by signal 11 in module: decode_audio06:38
TPC- MPlayer crashed by bad usage of CPU/FPU/RAM.06:38
TPChow do I find out what signal 11 is?06:39
zenroxTPC,  so its audio then06:39
TPCzenrox, but if I play audio without video it works fine06:39
TPCI've tried two different video files so its not a bad video file06:39
zenroxtpc might be the audio with that movie06:39
virtualdTPC: man kill (it's segmentation fault, i.e. program crashed)06:39
zenroxits probly encoaded diferently06:39
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TPChow do I find out what audio codec it use then?06:40
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zenroxtpc the hardway or the easy way06:40
GammaRayTPC: try man 7 signal06:40
TPCmplayer says this: Selected audio codec: [a52]  afm:liba52 (AC3-liba52)06:41
zenroxhmm06:41
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zenroxmake shure the ac3 is installed06:41
TPCI'll try to install gstreamer0.8-a52dec and try it in totem again06:42
memerok, one more try: here's a link to a libranet review: http://tinyurl.com/6pz6s the bit about Adminmenu is in the second paragraph below the screenshot.  What do youse think -- wouldn't something like that be beneficial for ubuntu, too?06:42
tritiumyouse?06:42
memerheh.06:42
LinuxJonesmemer, don't they ask like $120.00 US for Libranet ?06:43
tritiummemer, tools like that already exist.  gdmsetup configures gdm, for example06:43
tritiumkeyboard settings too06:43
memerum, i think it's $60 now (tho you cna get it free too). but that's not the point. i'm not pushing the distro per se, i want some feedback re the usefulness of the Adminmenu feature. take off the blinders guys ;-)06:43
memer(i mean, youse ;-))06:44
tritiumseems unnecessary to me06:44
delltonyRiddell, are you around? I have question in regard to kubuntu. how do you set hte menu's for it or can you? as in add to the menu items and remove from06:44
zenroxtritium,  but it does put it in one place06:44
bur[n] eranyone have a recommendation for an id3 tagger that uses freedb/cddb?06:44
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LinuxJonesmemer, adminmenu has some nice features but alot are redundant now06:44
bur[n] ereasytag works, but it's interface is bleh06:44
memerwell, it's uneccessary if you know what to do. sure. but isn't part of ubuntu's mandate to spread to mom an pops?06:44
memeri.e. non-techy people06:45
zenroxmemer,  moms an pops are using it now06:45
memerLinuxJones: oh yeah? like which?06:45
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memerzenrox: not sayin there aren't techy ma an pops around now.06:45
bur[n] ernot mine :)06:45
memer(sheesh)06:45
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LinuxJonesmemer, the compile kernel feature is not needed for most people. Only those running servers or exotic hardware need to re-compile a kernel.06:46
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zenroxya and memer my mom will be using linux  and she is 4706:46
zenroxand she has never tuched a computer06:46
tritiummost configuration tools are in one place: under "Administration"06:47
TPCit works with sound in totem now, but for some reason the video is alot slower than it should be. But not extremly slow as it can be when theres a bad file, and I know that the file is ok, because its a part of a serie and I've watched the 5 previous movies of that serie, they are all the same (even identical filesize, so it must be encoded with the exact same options)06:47
tritiumOr, if you have gnome-system-tools installed, under Applications->System Tools06:47
blizahi have ubuntu installed on an ide drive and windows installed on a sata raid...how do i go about getting ubuntu to see the windows sata raid?06:47
memerok, let's put it this way, woudln't it be NICE if it were around? i mean, slacktivists get by just fine without pkg mgmt, but that doesn't mean there aren't more convenient ways to go about things (eg apt-get)06:47
Riddelldelltony: menus are broken in our KDE 3.3, try the 3.4 packages to fix it06:47
LinuxJonesmarksbry, hi06:47
marksbrylhas there been a fix yet for the sata pata problem yet?06:47
tritiumAnd my 57-year old mother is getting along just fine in ubuntu06:47
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marksbryhey Linuxjones you helped me before I used the name nubuntu06:48
LinuxJonesmarksbry, oh hi :)06:48
unamausi have a similar problem as yours blizah06:48
blizahyou have any luck?06:48
unamauswith scsi hard drives06:48
unamausno luck06:48
memer"nubuntu".. good one :D06:48
zenroxtritium,  spred ubuntu to the nursing home06:48
zenroxlol06:48
LinuxJonesmarksbry, that was usb cdrom not working on sata hard drive ?06:48
tritiumzenrox, :)06:48
marksbryI got the system installed with that bugzilla site you sent me, but for some reason I still can't use cdrom within the ubuntu os06:48
yqyq22a last problem with evolution mail and exchange200306:49
marksbrypata cdrom and sata hd06:49
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unamausi tried using using a config meant for ide and replaced hdd with sdd but that was a failure06:49
tritiumubuntu-calendar for all the old men in the nursing home ;)06:49
zenroxyep06:49
yqyq22the error is: Could not authenticate to server. (Password incorrect?06:49
LinuxJonesmarksbry, your probably going to have to load those same modules from the website into /etc/modules06:49
blizahis the next ubuntu gonna support raid, sata, scsi?06:49
zenroxand playgirl.com for the ladys06:49
unamausi hope so06:49
marksbrycould you send me the website again pls, I will bookmark it in my ubuntu page, I lost it when xp crashed on me :(06:49
LinuxJonesmarksbry, if it worked during install it will work after install06:49
LinuxJonesmarksbry, oh dear I didn't bookmark it .... let me see if I can find it06:50
tritiummarksbry, xp crashed?  Wow, how rare... ;)06:50
delltonyriddel, can i apt-get upgrade it?06:50
marksbryROFL...yeah piece of cowdung06:50
marksbryeastlink.ca, are you from the maritimes Linuxjones?06:51
rcchancan someone direct me to an ubuntu newbie room if there is one?06:51
unamausthere is06:51
tritiumrcchan, you're most welcome here06:51
LinuxJonesmarksbry, yeah Nova Scotia06:51
Mike37is thomas black here ?06:52
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Mike37is anyone from hbd here ?06:54
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LinuxJonesmarksbry, I can't seem to find it right now, I have to get a coffee and a cig.06:54
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moritz__So why is it that xorg in hoary takes up 100% system after about a minute I start UT2k4?06:55
sensei__anyone know when we might get the 1.0.1 version of firefox06:55
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Juippissensei__: use installer?06:55
delltonyRiddell, you mind explaining how i update to that version in which you speak of in kde? i'm using the kpackage06:56
sensei__i tried apt-get upgrade, none listed06:56
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marksbryI used to spend my summers in NB LinuxJones...I seemed to have fixed the problem by switching channels around06:56
sensei__perhaps i need a dif source06:56
marksbryand playing around with sata modes06:56
Juippissensei__: download installer from mozilla.org and install that to /usr - create symbolic links and that should work?06:57
Mike37anyone from  HBD Venture Capital here ?06:58
snowblinkOn Warty, is there any trick to getting the CD Player to download track info?06:58
sensei__i knew that, i would prefer a package06:58
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Riddelldelltony: you need the deb line from http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2005-March/000023.html06:59
Juippissensei__: :)06:59
Riddelldelltony: don't know about kpackage but that needs to go in /etc/apt/sources.list06:59
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delltonyok thats fine06:59
delltonyid rather use command line anyway06:59
spiralhi06:59
uMkuluprivet, spiral06:59
delltonybut whats the package i'm after ;)06:59
yqyq22what is the command to install ximian-connector-2.0.207:00
yqyq22? please07:00
Riddelldelltony: apt-get update && apt-get install kdebase07:01
delltonyok thanks i just wasn't sure07:01
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Myrttiffs, isn't there any easy way of getting divx flicks working?07:02
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delltonywow Riddle depend issues out the ying yang07:03
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LinuxJonesmarksbry, you got it fixed ;)07:03
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bur[n] erMyrtti: apt-get install totem-xine07:03
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Myrttithanks07:03
aviroxhi all07:03
goronWhat exactly does ubuntu add to Debian?07:03
aviroxis there a way to use WINE on my 64bit version of ubuntu?07:04
marksbryyeah changed to legacy mode, got the bios to recognize sata as primary channel and moved cd rom to secondary...then it changed to hdc07:04
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lokavirox, wine can't handle 64bit due to win07:04
Myrttigoron: basic difference is that ubuntu's easier to install07:04
marksbryit doesn't work in sata mode with 6 channels for some reason07:04
LinuxJonesgoron, tinely update, regular reloease cycle, support for 18 months...etc07:04
Myrttiand configure, if you're a newbie to linux07:04
marksbrywould probably have to manually load the cdrom drivers in that case07:04
lokyou can make it work but only in 32 bit07:04
aviroxlok, how about wineX/cedega?07:04
LinuxJonesmarksbry, yeah07:04
Myrttior even if your familiar on how to configure debian to server use, but want to have it on the desktop too07:04
marksbrythanks again, your presence seems to solve problems lol07:04
lokavirox, same things but a page about how install it in 32bits is on the ubuntu wiki07:05
aviroxlok, do you mean work in the 64bit SO but in 32bit mode?07:05
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lokyes07:05
aviroxah ok07:05
Myrtti'cause Debian is teh sith when trying to configure it to the desktop. Did that answer your question, goron?07:05
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lokbut it's a little complicated to compile it with the 32bits library on a 64bits system without affect 64bit library07:05
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aviroxhmm07:06
goronThe only reason I might install another distribution is because I have to recompile my nvidia drivers everytime I want to use my 3d hardware. I think someone broke something (and it's not me).07:06
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lokit's not impossible but a little harder07:06
lokread this wiki it's on cedega07:06
LinuxJonesgoron, what distro are you using ?07:06
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lokit explain 2 different manner to compile it07:06
aviroxlok,  i cant quite find it07:06
goronLinuxJones: Debian.07:07
LinuxJonesgoron, Ubuntu has pre-compiled 3d binaries for ATI and Nvidia cards07:07
goronLinuxJones: Unstable07:07
goronLinuxJones: Tried that too.07:07
LinuxJonesgoron, in Ubuntu ?07:07
goronLinuxJones: The famous one liner doesn't work either.07:07
goronLinuxJones: no07:07
goronLinuxJones: I am not reading.07:07
goronLinuxJones: I was talking about Debian.07:07
LinuxJonesgoron, you have to install Ubuntu to use the binaries for you video card07:07
LinuxJonesgoron, sorry07:08
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goronLinuxJones: Does ubuntu has the same file system layout as Debian?07:08
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LinuxJonesgoron, if you have high-speed Internet connection why not give it a try. I guarantee you will love it07:08
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delltonyRiddell, you there?07:09
willtotem-xine seems to leave grey bars at the top & bottom of the fullscreen mode -what is it?07:09
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LinuxJonesgoron, yeah it is basically Debian unstable frozen, and then improved on07:09
goronLinuxJones: And you use Xorg, right?07:09
lokavirox, sorry it isn't on the ubuntu wiki07:09
lokis there http://digital-conquest.ath.cx/wiki/index.php/Ubuntu07:10
aviroxah thank you very much :)07:10
willthey are very random, sometimes large sometimes smaller07:10
Riddelldelltony: yo07:10
LinuxJonesgoron, in hoary yeah07:10
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LinuxJonesgoron, Hoary is the development version which is hopefully going to be frozen for release in April07:11
LinuxJonesgoron, within a few weeks I hope07:11
StoffBox-Stevehow to i setup firefox so its save .jpg .png .... automatic to the harddrive, and not ask me what to do with the file ?!07:11
delltonyi'm getting dependency issues out the butt man07:11
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delltonyyou mind if i pm you for a sec?07:12
QuaruptHappy friday07:12
goronLinuxJones: I already made a backup of my package list (probably the most valuable thing of a system conf) and my kernel confs. Probably I will switch to Ubuntu if I have the time.07:12
goronLinuxJones: Thanks for your help.07:12
LinuxJonesgoron, np ;)07:12
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lokwhen hoary will be realesed does the hoary mirror alwways be the "unstable" or does I need to replace hoary by grumpy on the source.list ?07:12
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Marble2Okay, someone has to help me, this is horrible. I'm stuck on windows07:13
Marble2whenever I reboot and choose linux at my LILO options it just says Loading Linux........ and hangs there07:13
Marble2I can't think of anything to fix it07:13
lokMarble2, calm down don't panic ..... oh god !07:13
lok:)07:13
Marble2I waited half an hour last night to see if I could get it to load :(07:13
LinuxJonesMarble2, you installed lilo ?07:14
lokMarble2, have you a live cd of any linux distribution?07:14
Myrttilok: prolly have to replace07:14
Marble2it's always been installed07:14
Marble2lok: yes, but the livecd doesn't work with my nforce2 mobo07:14
lokok zhanks Myrtti07:14
goronLinuxJones: Don't tell me that Ubuntu uses lilo standardly.07:14
loks/z/t07:14
Marble2I could go download a debian live cd or something07:14
Marble2goron: it doesnt07:14
LinuxJonesgoron, no grub that's why I asked him :D07:14
Marble2grub doesn't work for me07:14
Marble2so I had to use lilo07:14
Marble2but without any live cd, is there a way for me to get back to ubuntu/?07:15
lokweird with hoary lilo doesn't work on my laptop ...07:15
goronLinuxJones: Thank God. Grub always works.07:15
LinuxJonesgoron, lilo is poison as far as I am concerned07:15
lokMarble2, the best is that you dl a live-cd then boot on it and chroot your linux partition07:15
Marble2what does chroot do?07:16
lokand replace lilo by a good one or a grub as you want07:16
Marble2maybe lilo got messed up... whever I update with apt-get it wants to mess with my lilo.conf but I always say no07:16
Marble2well what's a good one?07:16
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neighborleeMarble2, technically I  really can't explain it but it allows you to go in and salvage a system for example..it 'roots' you to your environment so you have access to the commands ( chroot /mnt/sysimage: for example)07:17
Marble2never mind that, I'll go get a live cd07:17
Marble2what should I use?07:17
lokchroot /dev/yourhdpart and it's like if you booted that partition07:17
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goronMarble2: The idea is that it CHanges your ROOT (/).07:17
Marble2oh ok07:18
lokDESCRIPTION07:18
lok       Run COMMAND with root directory set to NEWROOT.07:18
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aviroxlok, is there a free version of cedega available?07:18
neighborleeMarble2, atm I dont know if ( someone maybe can answer as I've never used it) the hoary LIVECD has rescue mode but I know that there are rescue CD's out there07:18
Marble2well the Ubuntu live cd doesn't work on my mobo07:18
neighborleeavirox, yes but its lacking important stuff like CD checking07:18
Marble2I want to make sure I get a live cd that will07:18
lokfrom the man of chroot, I can't explain chroot well myself07:18
neighborleeavirox, ie:cedega cvs07:18
lokavirox, use the cvs version is free07:18
neighborleelok, heh07:18
aviroxk thx07:19
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Amaranthdamn spam bots are joining all the large channels to get info, even freenode07:19
Quaruptwhy is the xchat update taking ofever???07:19
neighborleehowver having said that..if you use cedege please play equally native linux games or we'll never make enough inroads ;-)) ( one danger IMO of cedega )07:19
Marble2I'm going to get a knoppix live cd07:19
Marble2is that ok?07:19
neighborleeMarble2, I dont think they have rescue mode07:20
neighborleebut I could be wrong07:20
Amaranthone just joined #freenode and more then likely got a list of users before quitting07:20
Marble2ugh07:20
Amaranththey do it here too07:20
Marble2well uh07:20
Marble2what does rescue mode get me?07:20
Disastersorry... someone use CANON I250 printer with Ubuntu ?07:20
neighborleeMarble2, into your system to do chroot and fix things for example07:20
Marble2oh07:20
Marble2well what's the best live cd out there with rescue mode?07:20
neighborleei've had to do it  more than once07:20
neighborleeMarble2, one BIG example is to run say: grub-install /dev/hda07:21
neighborleeMarble2, if you have to reintall windows..that command is Mandtory ;-))lol07:21
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Marble2hm?07:21
spazerywhen my ubuntu machine boots it always stops for ages trying to get the time from the ubuntu website, how can i stop this happening07:22
neighborleeMarble2, well because windows takes over the MBR and there is no way back into linux07:22
spazerycan i remove it from the menu07:22
marksbryI am polluting ubuntu, somebody stop me07:22
neighborleemarksbry, somebody sssssssssstop me07:22
Marble2I'm really confused neighborlee07:22
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marksbryI am installing windows xp over win4lin07:22
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neighborleeMarble2, well if your new these aren't concepts you grab overnight so dont worry07:22
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Marble2ok07:22
djpdoes anybody here know how to get transcode working under ubuntu?07:23
Marble2well what do I do to get back to my ubuntu partition07:23
Marble2get that working07:23
Marble2what would you suggest as the best option07:23
lokdjp, what is transcode?07:23
Disastersorry... someone use CANON I250 printer with Ubuntu ?07:23
lokDisaster, no I don't but talk, your probleme can be generic07:24
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cocoltranscode audio/vidoe editing?07:24
tritiumdjp, you can get it off of the marillat repo (ftp.nerim.net)07:24
goronDisaster: Look linux-printing.org with or without -07:24
neighborleeMarble2, im prob. not the best to do so..the only one i've used is 'fedora' s #1 CD and then used rescue mode..but i'm SURE there are other sa LIVECD's that surely offer a rescue mode ..which then lets you run either Lilo or Grub to get linux going again07:24
Marble2ok07:24
goronDisaster: If it works on Linux, it will work on Ubuntu.07:24
Marble2so uh can anyone else help me out?07:24
neighborleecan someone suggest a livecd that has rescue mode ?07:25
Marble2I don't know what live cd to get07:25
lokthere a rescue mode on the hoary cd07:25
goronDisaster: And if not, I will uninstall Ubuntu right away :-)07:25
tritiumneighborlee, http://www.sysresccd.org/07:25
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lokbut you must activated it after the normal install boot07:25
neighborleelok, ahhhh didn't know....good to remember07:25
djptritium: i have had no end of trouble trying to get it working! i'm sure i've tried that repo?07:25
Disastergoron.. tried... is unsupported on linuzprintig... in canon.newziland are drivers... on debian sarge i alened them (they are in rpm) on ubuntu the do not work... (instlle sharde librery too)07:25
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neighborleetritium, k thx making note ...07:25
tritiumdjp, is it installed?  What exactly is the problem?07:26
tritiumneighborlee, sure :)07:26
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cocolhttp://www.sysresccd.org/07:26
neighborleetritium, actually You know I remember seeing that at distrowatch.org..where ubuntu is almost ready to overtake mepis <G>!!07:26
cocolMarble2 is for u07:27
Marble2ok07:27
Marble2downloading07:27
tritiumneighborlee, excellent07:27
soren9580anyone in here know how to automatically ftp a file to a machine once it has finished downloading?07:27
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lokI think the hoary realese make it go upper on the top 10007:27
neighborleecocol, would that be better though than hoarty ( since its native ubunt)..anyway no doubt BOTH cd's are good since they support rescue mode ;-)07:27
cocoli dont know07:28
neighborleetritium, I shouted when I saw we were within '6' of doing so ..hahaha i'm so ubuntuized07:28
loksoren9580, I don't understand what you want to do07:28
tritium:)07:28
neighborleeI want a T-shirt I think07:28
soren9580so i use BitTorrent to grab a lot of cool stuff off the net07:28
djptritium: are you using wart or hoary?07:28
tritiumdjp, Hoary07:29
goronAh.. kde crashes when too much is in the thrash.. I hate lazy programmers. Why does application software fails almost always, while (Linux) kernels work always?07:29
soren9580and when it finishes07:29
soren9580i have to ftp it from my server to my local machine07:29
soren9580and normally i do this manually07:29
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lokgoron, kernel can freeze to , I make it ^^07:29
aviroxwhat do i use to install a .deb file?07:29
soren9580now, i think i've figured out a way to automate the torrent grabbing07:29
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LinuxJonesavirox, dpkg -i packagename07:30
soren9580but how do i get it to automatically copy the file to my local computer (a Unix box) when i'm done07:30
LinuxJonesavirox, but it won't resolve any dependencies for you07:30
aviroxty07:30
djptritium: that could be the issue for me... warty here07:30
goronlok: I know, but only had this with shitty nvidia (nforce) drivers. This is possible because of the architecture of Linux modules.07:30
neighborleegoron, non-flame bait but i've avoided kde finding it a bit buggy although i'm glad ubuntu users have access to kubuntu...( ICEauthority has bumed me more than once )07:30
aviroxLinuxJones, how do i resolve dependencies?07:30
tritiumdjp, possibly07:30
LinuxJonesavirox, it depends on what your installing07:30
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LinuxJonesavirox, what is it ?07:31
LinuxJonesavirox, it might already be available07:31
goronneighborlee: What's kubuntu different than apt-get install kde on Debian?07:31
goronthan->from07:31
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lokgoron, don't say that nvidia drivers are shitty ...... I have a radeon :(07:31
soren9580i figure i somehow have to look at the last time a file was updated07:31
soren9580by using the ls command07:31
soren9580but i'm not exactly sure how to do that07:31
Mirvany idea if there are still WLAN PCI or USB adapters on the market which don't need firmware uploaded to the adapter on each boot?07:31
neighborleegoron, dunno Ive not followed kubuntu threads much07:31
goronlok: Well, I heard horror stories about those too.07:31
loksoren9580, you can make a bash script maybe07:31
soren9580yea07:31
soren9580that's what i was thinking07:32
blizahis gmail smtp or sendmail?07:32
blizahim tring to set gmail up under evolution07:32
lokgoron, when you try it you love nvidia drivers07:32
Mirvthose firmware binaries are restricted anyway, and I'd like to stay away from those if possible07:32
soren9580but how do i get it to determine when a file is finished?07:32
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goronlok: What exactly happens? x freezes? Or just lousy performance>07:32
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aviroxargh07:32
aviroxis there a gui i can use for installign debian fils etc?07:33
LinuxJonesavirox, you need to do sudo dpkg -i packagename07:33
bestadvocatehey anyone else running hoary on a AMD64?07:33
lokgoron, it make you become mad then both freez and low performance07:34
aviroxbestadvocate,  m07:34
aviroxe07:34
LinuxJonesavirox, there is a gui available for installing from the Ubuntu repositories it's called synaptic07:34
lokbestadvocate, yop me07:34
loksoren9580, mmh it's a quite good question07:34
aviroxLinuxJones, i can add local files to that?07:34
bestadvocateavirox, lok, when you guys type "applications:///" in nautilus, do you get an error?07:34
LinuxJonesavirox, you can use dpkg for that07:35
loksoren9580, try to see if your bt client can move your file when it finished07:35
goronlok: Well, I am only talking about the nforce drivers(for mobo). The graphics are rather good (if they work(which they do with a clean install a year ago)).07:35
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lokand put theme on a specific folders07:35
lokbestadvocate, applications:///" is not a valid location.07:35
lokyes I have one07:36
aviroxroot@ubuntu:/media/D/Linux Downloads # sudo dpkg -i libpng3_1.2.8rel-1_all.deb07:36
aviroxdpkg-deb: unexpected end of file in version number in libpng3_1.2.8rel-1_all.debdpkg: error processing libpng3_1.2.8rel-1_all.deb (--install):07:36
bestadvocateyah, thats supposed to be where you change your07:36
bestadvocateApplications menu07:36
aviroxi dunno why im getting so many damn errors07:36
bestadvocatelok, avirox: i am getting the same thing with preffrences:07:36
lokbestadvocate, I thinks it's not amd64 but the latest version of gnome the probleme07:36
bestadvocateok07:36
lokcan someone on hoary test "applications:///" in nautilus ?07:37
LinuxJonesavirox, that's available in the ubuntu repositories07:37
upslok: it isnt available in hoary07:37
goronlok: It's pretty shitty too see that your audio hardware mixing works,..... and then freezes. Anyway, there are still stupid people in this world (I can't do anything about it, because nvidia was the least shittiest of them).07:37
LinuxJonesavirox, you should check out www.ubuntuguide.org it's a good place to get started with Ubuntu07:38
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bestadvocatelok, do you want to file a bug or should I?07:39
aviroxright07:39
lokbestadvocate, you can do it07:40
aviroxthing i have to do now is find out where to download the Wine packages07:40
lokbut make it for the gnome team07:40
lokavirox, use the cvs after that you chroot07:40
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LinuxJonesavirox, wine is availabe in the universe repository07:41
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aviroxlok,  i get this:07:42
aviroxroot@ubuntu:/media/D/Linux Downloads # sudo apt-get install dchroot debootstr07:42
aviroxReading Package Lists... Done07:42
aviroxBuilding Dependency Tree... Done07:42
aviroxE: Couldn't find package dchroot07:42
[mitch] got an array6 problem:  during install, detects and configures via dhcp my negear wg311 v2 wireless pci card, but is not available after reboot and final setup into gui07:42
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lokavirox, do you use warty or hoary mirror?07:42
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WebMaven_Hi folks, I was wondering why I haven't got a march-calendar update...07:43
bestadvocatelok: this would be a nautilus bug right?07:43
lokyes07:43
aviroxhoary i think07:43
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lokthen make sure that you use main universe and multiverse repository07:44
bestadvocateright07:44
lokbecause I find dchroot07:44
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WebMaven_how do I get the march calendar update in warty?07:45
stingaamy firefox freezes when i try to download something07:45
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lokstingaa, all the time?07:45
stingaayea07:45
lokWebMaven_, what is march calendar?07:45
|QuaD-WebMaven_: i haven't gotten it yet either07:45
|QuaD-lok: just a different desktop image every month07:46
lokmmh I dunno this apps07:46
WebMaven_lok there is an ubuntu-calendar package that gives you a monthly updating desktop background.07:46
stingaaim starting to long for windows :\07:46
aviroxwhat's point2play?07:46
Myrttistingaa: you better get some medication, then07:47
Myrttithat's a disease07:47
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lokavirox, it's a addon for cedega I thinl07:47
Marble2neighborlee: you still around?07:47
stingaa:\ been trying to get online for a day, then when i do firefox wants to be stupid, and ubuntu is lagging07:47
WebMaven_I saw the ubuntu-calendar-march package in the warty updates newsgroup, but synaptic doesn't know about it yet, for some reason.07:47
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Slack_RoxMan this gonna take some getting used to...07:48
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WebMaven_Slack_Rox: what wiil?07:48
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Slack_RoxDebian way of things07:48
WebMaven_Slack_Rox: what's different (never used SLack)07:49
WebMaven_?07:49
Slack_Roxinit system for one lol07:49
lokpackage system07:49
tizenHey guys, I made a ext3 partition with the livecd, copied a bunch of files on there, downloaded the hoary install iso onto that partition, burned it, and now with hoary installed i can't mount the partition... Any ideas?07:49
WebMaven_Slack_Rox: can you be more specific?07:49
lokWebMaven_, the slack init script is more on bsd style that system V07:50
loks/that/than/07:50
WebMaven_lok:  Uhhh... OK.07:50
stingaais there anything more userfreindly than ubuntu...07:50
lokstingaa, for?07:50
WebMaven_stingaa: yes, a nipple.07:50
Slack_RoxHonestly I really cant at the moment because I haven't figured out completely what is going on here.. Slackware more bsd style setup..07:51
|QuaD-stingaa: more user friendly???07:51
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stingaayea07:51
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stingaaas in it doesnt take more than 24 hours to get wireless working07:51
|QuaD-stingaa: how much more userfriendly can you get?07:51
WebMaven_|QuaD-: so, is this a bug that needs reporting?07:51
loktizen, when can't you mount it?07:51
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stingaaand as in firefox doesnt freeze when i try to dl something07:52
|QuaD-stingaa: oh... maybe try windows then07:52
vidarHi. How can i make the scrollwheel on my USB mouse work?07:52
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WebMaven_nipples are more user-friendly than Ubuntu. At least for babies.07:52
|QuaD-WebMaven_: hmm, one of the developers can fix it quickly when they are around07:52
|QuaD-WebMaven_: did you try apt-get install ubuntu-calendar-march07:52
|QuaD-or something like that07:52
WebMaven_no, not from the command line.07:52
blizahim tring to configure outgoing mail in evolution for a gmail account...and on google it says  "Use STARTTLS: Yes (some clients call this SSL)" but evolution only has the options plain,NTLM/SPA,DIGGEST-MD5,CRAM-MD5,login, annd pop before SMTP...wchich should i choose?07:52
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WebMaven_I did a search for 'calendar' and it doesn't show.07:53
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|QuaD-WebMaven_: hold on07:53
Slack_Roxthere a place in the forums as far as getting all the development stuff installed?07:53
|QuaD-WebMaven_: the package exists according to apt: ubuntu-calendar-march07:53
WebMaven_Slack_Rox: define "all the development stuff"?07:53
|QuaD-so you can install that07:53
WebMaven_|QuaD-: Hmm.07:54
vidarHi. How can i make the scrollwheel on my USB mouse work?07:54
WebMaven_so, why does synaptic not show it?07:54
Loevborgvidar, what mouse do you have?07:54
Slack_Roxautoconf... blah blah07:54
JanCSlack_Rox : there is a meta-package for "development stuff"07:54
Slack_Roxok07:54
Slack_Roxcool..07:54
|QuaD-WebMaven_: no idea... i try to not use gui's :)07:54
JanCcan't rmember the exact name  :)07:54
WebMaven_Slack_Rox: apt-get install cvs07:54
Slack_RoxI'll see if I can't find it..07:55
vidarLoevborg: its a MS-Tech USB Mouse, with 2 buttons and a scroolwheel.07:55
tizenlok: I can't mount it at all... Complains about bad superblock... I tried all the superblocks and still nothing... I was wondering if I booted back to the livecd if it would work?07:55
tizenlok: or any ideas07:55
Loevborgvidar, you're running warty?07:55
vidarno, hoary07:55
WebMaven_Slack_Rox: etc.07:55
WebMaven_|QuaD-: warty or Hoary?07:55
|QuaD-WebMaven_: hoary07:55
Slack_Roxubuntu = nice desktop though... quite impressed..07:55
|QuaD-you on hoary?07:55
Slack_RoxHoary07:55
Loevborgvidar, you could do "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and select some other mouse driver.07:56
aviroxroot@ubuntu:/usr/bin # dir wi*07:56
aviroxwinex3  wish  wish8.407:56
aviroxroot@ubuntu:/usr/bin # cd /usr/bin/winex307:56
aviroxbash: cd: /usr/bin/winex3: Not a directory07:56
aviroxwtf :/07:56
aviroxi used dpkg -i07:56
tizenavirox, is that the executable?07:56
vidarOk, thanx man, ill try that!07:56
aviroxdunno, how do i see he extensions?07:56
aviroxi dont know where to access wine from07:56
WebMaven_|QuaD-: I'm on warty.07:57
tizenavirox, there are no executable extensions in linux07:57
Agrajagavirox: extensions?07:57
WebMaven_sudo apt-get install ubuntu-calendar-march07:57
WebMaven_Reading Package Lists... Done07:57
WebMaven_Building Dependency Tree... Done07:57
WebMaven_E: Couldn't find package ubuntu-calendar-march07:57
Slack_RoxUsed the hoary iso made on the 3rd... was expecting a few bugs but haven't found any yet...07:57
tizenavirox, If the file is in a bin/ then it's an executable mostly07:57
|QuaD-WebMaven_: thats probably why.... how come you don't upgrade to hoary?07:57
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aviroxah ok07:57
Loevborgvidar, you're welcome07:57
aviroxtizen, i dont suppose you would know how to set it up? ^^07:57
WebMaven_|QuaD-: waiting for Hoary final.07:57
tizentry typing winex307:57
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aviroxarr07:58
tizenas the command07:58
tizensee what it says07:58
aviroxit asks for commandlines07:58
|QuaD-WebMaven_: ok. just to let you know, hoary is more or less as stable as its going to get07:58
WebMaven_|QuaD-: I'm conservative.07:58
aviroxbut i remember there being a gui or somethign07:58
|QuaD-WebMaven_: understandable :)07:58
tizeni've never used wine, did you check to see if there is a winex gui?07:58
WebMaven_WebMaven_: if that's true, what remains to be done before final?07:58
WebMaven_bah.07:58
WebMaven_|QuaD-: if that's true, what remains to be done before final?07:59
Slack_Roxgnome release? lol07:59
|QuaD-WebMaven_: nothing really major i don't think, the packages are more or less frozen (just fixing bugs and security releases as they come around)07:59
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Marble2ok, can someone help me out?07:59
Slack_RoxI07:59
Marble2I got the boot cd lok said to get, and I'm trying to mount my linux partition using chroot08:00
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WebMaven_well,  you've put your finger on it. bugs. When folks are confident enough to make a final release, I'll upgrade.08:00
Marble2but it says "/dev/hdd4 is not a directory" :(08:00
Marble2any ideas?08:00
Slack_RoxI'm gonna go poke around the forums a bit... probably bbl with a ? or two...08:00
|QuaD-WebMaven_: haha ok :)08:00
WebMaven_Meanwhile, Warty is supposed to continue getting these updates.08:00
Marble2anyone?08:01
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virtualddoes anyone else run traceroute-nanog? (from hoary universe)08:01
WebMaven_And I saw it checked in on the list.08:01
aviroxhow do i edit a file/program?08:01
|QuaD-avirox: what do you mean?08:01
Marble2lok: you here?08:01
WebMaven_So the fact that ubuntu-calendar-march is not available is a bug.08:01
aviroxthe tutorial states:08:01
avirox    *  Edit /usr/bin/cedega to find lib3208:01
aviroxAdd: /lib32:/usr/lib32 to the $LD_LIBRARY_PATH08:01
phosphorgreenhi all. I'm trying to configure postfix on my ubuntu box to accept mail from IPs on my network - I would have thought adding an entry in inet_interfaces and $mynetworks would have done it, but it has not worked - any ideas?08:01
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|QuaD-WebMaven_: i would assume08:01
aviroxim not sure how to do that08:02
|QuaD-avirox: cedega is closed source right?08:02
HcE|QuaD-: yes08:02
aviroxyea08:02
virtualdwhere de i report bugs to packages in universe?08:02
|QuaD-then you can't edit the program08:02
virtualds/de/do/08:02
phosphorgreenwarty does not accept bugs for universe.08:02
aviroxoddly the tutorial seems to think so hehe08:02
phosphorgreenhoary may do.08:02
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Marble2Can someone help me get back on ubuntu?08:03
Marble2whenever I boot up and choose linux in lilo options, it just hangs there08:03
|QuaD-avirox: that you can edit a program that is closed sourcE?08:03
Marble2I have a live cd I'm running right now, but chroot won't let me get into my linux partition08:03
lokMarble2, sorry I ve just get out08:04
lokwhat's happenned?08:04
Marble2I got the live cd you said to get08:04
Marble2I booted to it08:04
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Marble2but I can't access my linux partition08:04
lokyes08:04
bestadvocatelok, avirox: i filed it, if you want to add anything its  16922408:04
plagiatshi everyone !08:04
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lokok bestadvocate08:04
Marble2chroot /dev/hdd4 gives me "dev/hdd4 not a directory"08:04
uMkulubestadvocate is going to update and restart08:04
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lokMarble2, sorry I ve told you a mistake08:05
plagiatsI got a screen problem resolution (800x600) after installing kubuntu. Monitor was correctly detected by Warty, but it's a mess now. Can someone help me to put my 1024x768 back on track please ?08:05
lokyou must mount it before08:05
Marble2oh hehe08:05
Marble2ok08:05
aviroxis there an extension that i can use with dpkg to install it to a specified place or is it all program-dependant08:05
zAmaranthspammers have made me change my nick08:05
lokand chroot the mount point08:05
avirox?08:05
zAmaranththis is sad08:05
Marble2I'll be right back, I'm on this windows computer downstairs08:05
Marble2got to run upstairs08:05
|QuaD-zAmaranth: spammers?08:05
zAmaranthyeah08:05
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|QuaD-zAmaranth: how so?08:06
zAmaranththey join large channels (#freenode, #php, #ubuntu), grab the list of users, and start spamming in alphabetical order08:06
|QuaD-zAmaranth: and they used your nick?08:06
lokzAmaranth, do you refere them to the server op ?08:06
zAmaranthyes08:06
zAmaranthall 15 or so with different hostmasks now08:07
zAmaranthi gave up08:07
zAmaranththey aren't using my nick, they're spamming me08:07
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|QuaD-zAmaranth: ohh, thats different08:07
LevanderJust installed apache2 via apt-get.  I want to put the html files in the users home directories.  Is it setup by default to do this?08:08
Marble2lok: back08:08
Marble2it mounted fine, but when I run chroot /linx08:08
Marble2*linux rather08:08
Marble2i get08:08
bur[n] erLevander: in ~/public_html08:08
Marble2chroot:  cannot run command`/bin/zsh`:no such file or dir08:08
aviroxdoes the 64bit edition of ubuntu (hoary) really have any advantages at the moment?08:09
lokwow strange08:09
Marble2yea08:10
Marble2what should I do08:10
Marble2does knoppix have the ability to run chroot? I have a live cd of that around somewhere08:10
lokI haven't zsh but chroot works08:10
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Marble2hm?08:10
loktry with knoppix, and prey08:10
Marble2okay08:11
goronMarble2: yes08:11
Xappeanyone that can help me with hmount?08:11
Levanderbur[n] er, thanks, though I was gonna have to configure for that.  Found something about userdir module in apache2.conf that I thought I was supposed to unconfigure - guess I didn't have to, worked! thanks!08:11
tizenhehe, my experiences with linux usually involve praying... Or at least a church...08:11
tizenat least they should.08:12
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|QuaD-hmmm, i am putting ubuntu on my mom's computer (she just uses the web) what you think, hoary or warty?08:12
Levanderwarty08:12
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Levanderwhat hell she need hoary for?  might have to deal with bugs in hoary08:13
Levandermuch fewer in warty08:13
|QuaD-Levander: thats what i think too, but what if she wants a bleeding edge machine!!!! (she barely knows how to turn it on)08:13
Levanderwhy would she care about a bleeding edge machine if she doesn't even know how to turn it on?08:13
|QuaD-Levander: it was a joke08:14
Nigelenkiis there any significance to the test page08:14
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|QuaD-i will probably do warty08:14
bluefoxicyI have lines around mine08:14
loktizen, linux is not a religion but you practise a lot of strange rituals ^^08:14
bluefoxicyon the left side there's 6, the right has 308:14
tizenlok: hehe, and a lot of fsck'ing :)08:14
Levanderyeah, i do warty for myself even though I know about this stuff, no interest in finding the bugs and wasting the time08:14
Levanderunless I was specifically just interested in working on ubuntu of course08:14
bestadvocatelok, linux is not a religion GNU pretty much is though08:14
|QuaD-Levander: i rarely find bugs in stuff, but i just want bleeding edge08:14
Levanderi think some ppl qaing it is a hobby08:14
tizenWell, i've been playing with linux since Red Hat 5.0 :) But Ubuntu is the first time i've put it on my main desktop08:15
bluefoxicyheh08:15
Levanderquad, i find bugs in warty!  at least there documented cause they've been out for a while08:15
bluefoxicyI just gave my mom the fucking manual08:15
bluefoxicyand told her to read it.08:15
lokbestadvocate, yeah you're right08:15
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bluefoxicy500 pages of basic Unix systems based on SunOS and BSD08:15
bluefoxicy(was supposed to be sys5)08:15
Levandertizen, yeah, they're really pretty close to a seamless desktop with ubuntu08:16
Xappewhat key do you have to press to boot an ibook from cd?08:16
tizeni like it...08:17
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tizeni'll like it a lot more if i can find a way to recover my files on the bork'd partition08:17
neighborleedoes anyone here have a copy of 'libXxf86vm.so.1' they could DCC me possibly?..I need it for a project that sadly had to include it for some screen functions ( its in hoary only faik )08:17
tizenthose files being like 8k worth of emails and all my pictures from digicam and all my work for the last 3 years08:17
neighborleetizen, thanks indeed! ;-)08:18
tizenneighborlee: np, next ask for my /etc/passwd :)08:18
tizenlol08:18
neighborleeROFL08:19
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tizenanyone here notice a really big variation in speeds from the ubuntu servers?08:20
LinuxJonestizen, backup maybe ;P08:20
tizenLike, while i'm updating, it'll go 400 kb/s then drop to 1340 b/s08:20
TPCtizen, your /etc/passwd wouldn't do anyone anything good. /etc/shadow on the other hand... ;)08:20
tizenLinuxJones: backup?08:20
tizenTPC: true enough... Unless someone is curious to my real name :)08:21
LinuxJonestizen, you have to backup your stuff in case of hardware failure08:21
tizenLinuxJones: I put them on another partition... I thought they'd be safe08:21
LinuxJonestizen, :D08:21
tizeni've used that system for years08:21
tizenlol08:21
blizahis this the gmail notifier for linux i should get? http://gmail-notify.sourceforge.net/index.php08:22
siggletblizah: yeah, thats what I use and it works great08:22
TPCblizah, I'd just enable their pop3 support and use any pop3 notifier. gives you alot more to choose from.08:22
blizahyea i just gotta get used to using one tpc08:23
blizahive set it up under evolution08:23
tizenLinuxJones: i just need to find a way to get this data... I'm not giving up yet...08:24
LinuxJonestizen, I would google for data recovery linux08:24
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LinuxJonestizen, I am sure there are projects for data recovery08:25
tizenLinuxJones: Been looking through those results for a day and a half08:25
LinuxJonestizen, argh08:25
blizahsigglet do i download the debain package or the standard linux sorce package for this gmail notifier?08:26
tizenLinuxJones: Yeah, it was working fine... I mke2fs from the livecd08:26
tizenused it to store the hoary iso08:26
tizenburned the hoary iso08:26
tizeninstalled08:26
tizenand when the system came back up, that partition won't mount08:26
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tizensirius:~$ sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda5 /Stuff/08:27
tizenmount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda5, missing codepage or other error08:27
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Marble3lok, you here?08:28
lokyop08:28
Marble3I'm on knoppix now08:28
tizenI got mke2fs to give me all the superblocks it would have as backups and i tried them all08:28
Marble3mounted and chrooted08:28
Marble3I ran lilo08:28
Marble3what else should I do?08:28
Marble3I wanted to check before I rebooted to see if lilo works, knoppix takes forever to load08:28
lokedit /etc/lilo.conf08:28
LinuxJonestizen,  you ran mke2fs on your backup directory ?08:28
Marble3nono, it's fine08:28
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Marble3I didn't change it08:29
Marble3and it worked before08:29
lokand take a look if the linux label boot the good partition08:29
Marble3but it says I have to run the lilo command after a distro upgrade08:29
tizenLinuxJones: I ran it with the -n so it would give me the superblocks it would use if it was to mke2fs it08:29
LinuxJonestizen,  err partition rather08:29
Marble3and I think I upgraded last night through apt-get08:29
cavediverHi guys. Any idea why the 2.92 version of file-roller suddenly wont support rar files as 2.91 did ?08:29
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Marble3that might be why huh?08:29
Marble3maybe we should take this to pm08:29
loktry to reboot and see if it's works08:29
Marble3ok08:29
Marble3brb then08:30
lokk08:30
tizenMarble3: One thing i noticed with Ubuntu and some other distros... If you don't have a seperate partition for /boot, grub isn't a big fan08:30
LinuxJonestizen,  have you run e2fsck on that partition ?08:30
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lokcavediver, sorry I don't know, you better look on the file roller support08:30
tizenLinuxJones: Yup, complains about bad superblock... That's how i specified all the different superblocks08:31
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cavediverlok: seems strange to remove support for the most popular archive format ?08:31
loktizen, I haven't a separated /boot and grub doesn't have one probleme08:31
LinuxJonestizen, have you tried the -p option to automatically repair that partition ?08:31
LinuxJonestizen, it probably won't work but it might be worth a try08:32
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Marble3It worked it worked it worked08:32
shock_< cavediver> maybe you need to install rar-nonfree08:32
Marble3thanks so much lok :)08:32
Marble3I'm back on ubuntu08:32
shock_or whatever its called08:32
Marble3now if only my sound would work in vlc....08:33
lokcavediver, yes it's strange but maybe they wants to engage users to use bunzip or tarball08:33
tizenLinuxJones: Yeah, tried08:33
cavediverPerhaps.. I don't like it anyway..08:33
tizenlok: Does for me.. I don't know why08:33
lokMarble3, sorry I don't know vlc08:33
cavediverusing untar for know08:33
Marble3hehe, don't worry about it08:33
lok^^08:34
tizenLinuxJones: I'm gonna msg you ok?08:35
LinuxJonestizen, I have to run out for beer08:35
tizenI'd like to join you08:35
LinuxJonestizen, will be back in about 1/2 hour08:35
tizen1 sec though08:35
LinuxJones;)08:35
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LinuxJonestok08:35
tizenwow, you're in halifax?08:35
LinuxJonestizen,  no Cape Breton08:35
LinuxJonesI lived in HFX for 12 years08:36
tizenah08:36
tizenok, i saw the hostname08:36
LinuxJones;)08:36
tizenI'm from near Yarmouth, but in HFX at Dal08:36
Marble3How can I add a custom link to my top toolbar08:36
LinuxJonesregister.com in in Yarmouth08:36
Marble3like I want to open nautilus and have it start in a certain folder08:37
LinuxJonesok dude thanks ;)08:37
tizenyeah08:37
shock_I wish there would be better support for USB stuff under ubuntu08:37
Blissexshock_: sweet dreams! :-)08:37
tizenshock_: I dunno what you've run into, but my printer works awesome with USB with Ubuntu... first time that's happened with linux.08:37
Deftshock_, it has the same support as any linux; what in particular don't you have?08:37
shock_x120 teledat usb isdn card08:38
shock_vigor 510 usb wireless08:38
shock_lexmark 11something printer08:38
shock_and a scanner08:38
shock_the scanner however doesnt work on anythign but windoze08:39
shock_*sigh*08:39
Marble3how do I set up my mouse so mouse4 and mouse5 work in firefox08:39
Marble3to go back and forth08:39
Marble3like they do in windows08:39
shock_printer, x120 and vigor all work on suse08:39
shock_not a clue @ Marble308:39
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Deftif something works on suse, it's probably worth searching/foruming... unless SuSE pays for licences or something08:40
lokMarble3, use an extension I thought08:41
Marble3for firefox?08:41
lokyes08:41
Marble3I dunno... it works without an extension in windows08:41
Marble3it works in windows explorer to08:41
Marble3maybe I need to map them to back/forward08:41
Marble3how would I do that?08:41
siggletMarble3: what?08:41
lokit's the win driver which handle it08:41
Marble3how can I remap my mouse 4 and 5 keys to back/forward08:42
DeftMarble3, in windows it's probably set up to fake keypresses08:43
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lordzakhello08:44
uMkuluhola, lordzak08:44
lordzakis there french here ?08:45
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loklordzak, yes08:45
lordzakcool :)08:45
lordzakqui ?08:45
Nekohayomoi :P08:45
lokva sur #ubuntu-fr t'aura une liste08:45
lordzakok j'allais justement voir si ca existait08:45
lordzak(ps : elle est gniale cette distro...)08:46
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tizenMoi je suis francais aussi :)08:48
Marble3How can I add a custom link to my top toolbar? like I want to open nautilus and have it start in a certain folder08:48
tizenMarble3: Right click and do Add to Panel...08:49
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Marble3that only lets me add certain stuff08:50
Marble3that I can't configure08:50
Nekohayois it possible to make amule user wxgtk2.5 without recompiling?08:50
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tritiumnice, here come the ubuntu-doc, -faqguide and -quickguide :)08:51
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jay_of_todaygreetings everyone08:52
LevanderMy php4 under apache2 isn't connecting to mysql, any ideas how to trouble shoot?  I'm kinda lost now.08:52
jay_of_todaycould anyone of you tell me where to dl the kernel image WITH bootsplash?08:53
jay_of_todayLevander, phpinfo();?08:54
tritiumjay_of_today, there isn't one08:54
LevanderI've done searching and reading, seems like I've done eveything I find, hoping for step by step instructions of how to test for stuff working.  Don't know either mysql or php.08:54
jay_of_todayahhhh!!  got it!! tritium08:54
jay_of_todayperhaps debian packages tritium ?08:54
Levanderjay_of_today, phpinfo works, php under apache is working08:54
tritiumjay_of_today, instead, ongoing work is focusing on usplash (a userspace splash)08:54
jay_of_todaywhat about mysql bindings Levander ?08:54
tritiumjay_of_today, don't know about debian packages for you08:55
Levanderjay_of_today, no it's the mysql bindings not working, via error message I get from wordpress install is only way i know08:55
jay_of_todayI see tritium , so does the kernel image provided by ubuntu has usplash tritium ?08:55
jay_of_todayops08:55
jay_of_today;)08:55
tritiumjay_of_today, no, usplash is not available yet, but when it is, it won't be part of the kernel (it's userspace)08:56
tritiumthat's the beauty of it08:56
jay_of_todayok08:56
jay_of_todaythe only splash thingie thats left is the one on the live cd right?08:56
Levanderjay_of_today, i have php4-mysql and libapache2-mod-auth-mysql installed.  And I edited /etc/php4/apache2/php.ini to uncomment mysql.so08:57
lokdoes someone know another good site than gnome.look or art.gnome for icon and gtk theme ?08:57
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tritiumjay_of_today, maybe08:57
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jay_of_todayart.gnome.org Loevborg08:57
jay_of_todaysorry lok08:57
Levanderstill can't get php4 to connect to mysql under apache208:57
jay_of_today:)08:57
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jay_of_todaywhat about a prob on the mysql configuration Levander ?08:57
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Marble3lok, what was the site you told me earlier to get the live cd?08:58
t31hi I have a usb modem US Robotics 8500 and cant connect :(08:58
t31i have static ip08:58
Levanderjay_of_today, know very little about mysql, how would I check?08:58
jay_of_todaymysqladmin08:58
lokMarble3, which distrib ?08:58
jay_of_todayfrom a shell08:58
Levandermysqladmin -u root password <newpwd> did work08:58
Marble3yea08:58
Marble3I can't remember the name08:58
Marble3system something08:58
Levanderjay, don't know what else to try08:58
jay_of_todayfrom localhost right Levander ?08:58
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Levanderjay, yeah, apache and mysql running on same host08:59
Levandermy ubuntu box08:59
DeftLevander, can you run phpmyadmin? if you can then any more setup should be easy08:59
LoevborgLevander, what's the error message?08:59
lokMarble3, you sure that is me that you told it, I don't remember08:59
t31someone can help me?08:59
Levanderloevbord, only error message I get is from wordpress, /wp-admin/install-php brings up a web page saying that it couldn't connect to the database09:00
jay_of_todayLevander, try the examples on php.net09:00
Marble3ok09:00
Levanderdeft, haven't tried phpmyadmin yet09:00
LoevborgLevander, try using the mysql command client with the -exact- information you provided to wp.09:00
t31ubuntu doesnt work with usb adsl modems?09:00
Levanderjay_of_today, they have any advice for troubleshooting the examples when I can't connect to database?09:00
Levanderloevbord, how would I do that?09:01
jay_of_todaythey have a lot of tips actually09:01
jay_of_todaythey may be work for ya09:01
LoevborgLevander, "mysql -uuser -p database"09:01
Levanderin mysql, i know what I supplied wp09:01
jay_of_todaysee ya pals09:01
Levanderloevbord, what do I use in place of database?09:01
jay_of_todayhave a nice day09:01
Levanderthanks jay, i'm gonna look at those examples if don't get working here, thanks a lot!09:02
Levanderloevborad, in place of database in the command u gave09:02
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LoevborgLevander, guess what! the name of your database!09:03
rubixXxwhats the command to tell your kernel version09:03
LoevborgrubixXx, uname -a09:03
Levanderloevborg, I tried "test" for the database name, a mysql prompt does come up09:03
Levanderloevbord, i haven't created any databases myself yet - don't know how to!09:04
Marble3How can I add a custom link to my top toolbar? like I want to open nautilus and have it start in a certain folder09:04
Marble3I tried going through "Add to this panel" but that doesn't let me customizew09:04
Marble3-w09:04
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wartyholas09:05
LoevborgLevander, you'll have to read up on how to do that in the wordpress documentation.09:05
Levanderloevbord, fuck, i figured it out!09:05
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Levanderin wp-config.php I was using my hostname and not just 'localhost' for the DB_HOST09:05
Levanderno idea why it can't use the hostname09:06
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tizenMarble3: It's Add to Panel you want... But you'll have to explore through there...09:06
Xerhi09:06
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Levanderno I get error about database 'wordpress' not being able to be selected, i thought they were gonna create it for me, gotta look into it09:06
Levanderthanks a lot! for your help loevborg!09:06
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tizenMarble3: Add to panel, custom launcher09:07
tizenand load nautilus from that09:07
LoevborgLevander, np09:07
Marble3thanks :)09:07
tizenMarble3: I'm just assuming that's how you do it... But I'm almost sure that's it09:07
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Xerwhere i can find kernel source [.dep]  one?09:08
Marble3it is09:08
billytwowillycan anyone recommend a program like audacity but that will actually export to a bit rate and sampling rate I tell it to?09:09
Loevborgbillytwowilly, "sox", but that's command line.09:09
billytwowillyLoevborg, I'll check it out anyway.09:09
billytwowillyLoevborg, It's so simple what I want to do and yet so hard..09:10
tritiumXer, it's one of the linux-source-* packages09:10
Xercan anyone tell me where i can find kerenl source 2.6.x.deb ?09:10
tritiumXer, depending on what you're doing, you may only need linux-headers09:10
Xertritium can u give me the link of it plz?09:11
billytwowillyjust downsample to 16kbps and 16000hz... prefereably while keeping the same pitch and tempo.09:11
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tritiumXer, it's available through apt09:11
WebMaven_|Q09:11
WebMaven_|QuaD-: so has a dev shown up yet?09:11
tritiumXer, what are you doing?  Compiling a kernel module?09:11
Xeryes09:12
tritiumXer, apt-cache search linux-headers09:12
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Xer:\09:12
Xernoo i need one with .deb09:12
tritiumyep09:13
Xeri'm now makeing cd haveing collections of files [ im usieng it ] 09:13
Xerlike wine and others pakges09:13
Xerim trying to put it in cd09:13
tritiumXer, apt-get install -d (for download only)09:13
Xer...09:13
Xercant u give me the link09:13
tritiumthen, get it out of /var/cache/apt/archives09:13
Xer[im now not in linux ;P] 09:13
Xermy cd burner not work only in windows09:14
tritiumXer, I'd have to look it up, just like you.  It would take both of us the same amount of time09:14
Xercan u give me the link plz?09:14
Xeror wait09:14
Xergive me the ubunutu site09:15
Xerid like to get it by my self09:15
eleazarhi guys, i wanted to try Ubuntu coz my fav distro is debian, but i have some doubts09:15
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tizeneleazar: Debian was my fav, and still is for my servers09:15
tizenbut I'm running Ubuntu and loving it09:15
Xerlike http://security.debian.org09:15
Xergive me the debian one09:15
tritiumhttp://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.10/09:15
Xerim runing ubuntu and i dont like it09:16
Xer;p09:16
Xeruh wait09:16
Xeri got the  link09:16
Xernow im loveing it09:16
Xer:P09:16
tritiumThat's for ubuntu09:16
loklol Xer09:16
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eleazartizen: in ubuntu you recompile the kernel like in debian? with kernel images? and the apt is as rich as in debian? coz the apt for suse, or fedora (apt4rpm) is a total sh't09:16
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bencovhi there! is there any solution or workaround for bug 26?09:17
tizeni've used apt to do my kernels09:17
tizeni'm just you could compile your own09:17
Xer...09:17
tizeni do my own kernels on my servers, but i use the ubuntu one09:17
tritiumbencov, bug 26?09:17
tizenand i haven't not found anything in the ubuntu apt that i wanted09:17
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Xerhttp://www.desktop-linux.net/debkernel.htm09:17
Xeri need like that one09:18
Xer:P09:18
Xerwhere i can get like that file :P09:18
bencovtritium: the bug with "Inconsistency detected by ld.so: rtld.c: 1259: dl_main: "09:18
eleazartizen: the packages are new? i mean.. like REALLY up-to-date packages?09:18
bencovtritium: It crashed the installation of Matlab09:19
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tizeneleazar: I'd say so, but i can't speak for all of them09:19
tizenXer: kernel-source-2.6.9 - Linux kernel source for version 2.6.9 with Debian patches09:19
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Xertizen "<tizen> and i haven't not found anything in the ubuntu apt that i wanted" , u can add the sites and maybe goo to debian site looking for it then you can finds alots of proggrams to download it ;)09:19
tritiumbencov, this is what I see for bug 26: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2609:19
Xerlol!09:19
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Xeraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa09:19
Xerahem09:19
Xerhow i can sayed it09:19
Xergive me the link of it!"<tizen> Xer: kernel-source-2.6.9 - Linux kernel source for version 2.6.9 with Debian patches"09:20
bencovtritium: Yes I check it too.. but there is no work around there...09:20
eleazarubuntu works with .deb packages?09:20
Xerlink = url09:20
Xeryes eleazar09:20
spectrumhi, has anybody problem with nvidia on hoary?09:20
Xerubuntu = debian09:20
tizenok, well i'm telling you it is in the apt... So you should try searching google or anything... Why make someone else do it for you?09:20
tizeneleazar: Yes.09:20
Xerbecoz09:20
Xerim now not in linux09:21
eleazarXer = i know its based on debian...09:21
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tritiumbencov, its status is "Reopened", so I think it's not yet resolved09:21
Xeri'm sure i cant use apt on cmd ;)09:21
tizenXer: http://higgs.djpig.de/ubuntu/www/hoary/devel/kernel-source-2.6.909:21
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bencovtritium: it 's bug 1724 too, which is closed ....09:21
Xerif the link isnt whats im looking for09:21
tritiumspectrum, no problems here09:21
Xeri would kill you09:21
tizenXer: But you could of google'd "ubuntu http://higgs.djpig.de/ubuntu/www/hoary/devel/kernel-source-2.6.9"09:21
tizenthats what i just did09:21
tizenuh09:21
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eleazaris there a netinst iso for ubuntu?09:21
tritiumXer, don't say that kind of thing please09:21
tizeni googled "ubuntu kernel-source-2.6.9 - Linux kernel source for version 2.6.9 with Debian patches"09:22
tizenand that's the first link09:22
tizenyou should be able to get the file from there09:22
tizenXer: a direct link would be http://mirror.clarkson.edu/pub/distributions/ubuntu/pool/universe/k/kernel-source-2.6.9/kernel-source-2.6.9_2.6.9-3_all.deb09:22
tizenanyways, i'm going watch some tv09:23
tizenlates09:23
blizahive downloaded a gmail notifier for linux and its .deb.  What do i do with that type of file?09:23
Xeri found it09:23
Xeri found it09:23
Xerin yahoo search09:24
Xerwithout needing help09:24
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Xerfrom anyone from here09:24
Xer:D09:24
Xer:}09:24
tritiumXer, we helped you09:24
Xerha?09:24
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Xeruh that09:24
tritiumtizen and I both provided URLs09:24
Xeri searched in yahoo09:24
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billytwowillyLoevborg, how do I set the encoding rate with sox? I want it at 16kbps09:25
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Loevborgbillytwowilly, "man sox"09:25
Xeranyway09:25
Xerthanks tizen09:25
Loevborgbillytwowilly, no sorry, I haven't used it yet.09:25
Maakuthhas anyone succeeded in getting asus a7v600-x sata to work with ubuntu?09:25
Xermee mee09:25
Xeri succeded :>09:26
billytwowillyLoevborg, I'm reading the man page already;)09:26
rave1Hi,09:26
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Maakuthwell how?09:26
Xeri get my modem driver from intel site ;] 09:26
Xerbut im sure this wont help you alots :P09:26
Xerhahaha09:26
Xerbut09:26
rave1I have put Ubuntu on a library computer in Vermont but can't get a printer to work.09:26
Marble3where is my mouse config located at?09:27
Xeryou can goo to your  driver site and get the driver from the site :)09:27
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Maakuther.. ok09:27
Maakuthit's sad asus doesn't support linux very well =(09:27
rave1whats the process to recognize a printer and load a driver09:28
billytwowillyall the asus stuff I've ever had supported linux quite well...09:28
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Maakuthbillytwowilly, this works quite well too, but my s-ata dvd-drive doesn't work09:28
CicalaMvtarave1: if it's a local printer, try printconf09:29
billytwowillyMaakuth, do you have a s-ata hard drive on there that does work?09:30
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Maakuthbillytwowilly, nope09:30
blizahive downloaded a gmail notifier for linux and its .deb.  What do i do with that type of file?09:30
billytwowillyor is s-ata completely buggered?09:30
billytwowillyblizah, man dpkg. I think it's dpkg -i filename.deb, but I can't remember09:30
blizahah k09:30
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Maakuthi have no evidence that linux knows anything about that s-ata controller09:30
Maakuthwell, device manager lists it but...09:30
billytwowillyI don't know much about s-ata sorry.09:31
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jreihi09:31
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jreianyone here who knows how to configure plone?09:31
Maakuthbillytwowilly, neither do i :(09:32
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jreiour websites are signed be "posted be no owner" someone got a hint why thats so09:32
Maakuthhmm.. viaarena.com has sata drivers for some linux distributions09:32
billytwowillygah. stupid ubuntu sox package. No mp3 encoding support.09:32
Maakuthsadly ubuntu is not supported there... but i wonder if i could get some of those to work with ubuntu09:33
billytwowillydid you google for your board? there may be a howto.09:33
jreiapt-get install gstreamer-plugins09:33
jreifrom univerce09:33
jreiand multiverce09:33
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jreiand be happy with mp309:34
Levanderin mysql, how do I create a database?09:34
Levanderjust need to create one so wordpress will populate it09:35
blizahbillytwowilly can i use the synaptic package manager for this .deb file?09:35
MaakuthLevander, that's why searchengines exist09:35
jreimysqladmin create yourdatabasename09:35
rave1thanks, time to go09:35
Levanderjrei, thanks09:35
jreinp09:35
billytwowillyblizah, I don't think so.. one of the things that bugs me about apt-get is that it doesn't handle local files nicely like urpmi does, besides that it is awesome.09:35
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billytwowillyblizah, have you used mandrake or redhat before?09:35
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blizahno this is my first time on linux09:36
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billytwowillyblizah, ok, nm then. just do a "sudo dpgk -i filename.deb" on it and see what happens. I think that is the command you have tu use.09:36
Loevborgblizah, you'll have to install it manually with "dpkg" in a shell.09:36
encKe`anyone have linux running on a pda?09:38
tritiumencKe`, yes09:38
jreikind of09:38
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encKe`what disto tritium ?09:38
Maakuthwow, via sata raid driver is open source o_O09:38
jreii am working with ipaqs and linux09:38
jreiwe are using familia linux09:38
tritiumencKe`, Familiar 0.8.1 on an iPaq 385009:38
trukuloanyone with IGP320M and hoary?09:38
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billytwowillyjrei, gstreamer plugins is installed09:39
trukulodoes anyone uses kernel 2.6.10-k7 and have dri enabled?09:40
jreibillytwowilly: did you install the suggested or recommended liblame etc09:40
encKe`i just recieved my rx3715 today :)09:40
billytwowillyjrei, liblame is installed yes.09:40
encKe`ive read up on Familiar, but not sure if it will work on mine09:41
universalcan someone help me setup my graphiccard optimally?09:41
encKe`do you know if it will tritium ?09:41
jreiis that an ipaq?09:41
tritiumencKe`, I don't know about your pda, no09:41
encKe`yes09:41
trukulouniversal, what's your g.c. ?09:41
jreias far as i know tha 3xxx works fine09:42
universaltrukulo, G.Z?09:42
universaltrukulo, g.c09:42
tritiumjrei, yes.  encKe` what's the rx prefix about?09:42
encKe`lol......  not sure09:42
trukulographic card09:42
universaltrukulo, i have a geforce 6800 GT09:43
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trukulohave you installed nvidia drivers from universe?09:43
blizahi typed "sudo dpgk -i gmail-notify-1.5.deb" and i get "sudo: dpgk:  command not found"09:43
universaltrukulo, yeam ive installed them from the universe09:44
tritiumblizah, dpkg09:44
trukulowhat's your problem then?09:44
blizahheh ok09:44
universaltrukulo, do u have Cedega?09:44
trukulono09:44
Slack_Roxshouldn't totem pick up my /usr/lib/win32 dir?09:44
blizahk i guess that installed it09:45
jreiSlack_Rox: apt-get install totem-xine support09:45
Slack_Roxoof... ok thnx09:45
blizahso where did it install it to?09:45
universaltrukulo, its just like when playing games /Glide, it seems to lag09:46
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universaltrukulo, like something is configurated wrong or so09:46
trukulouniversal, sorry, i don't know how cedega works with nvidia drivers09:46
trukulohave you tried frames per second in et , in example?09:47
trukuloworks well?09:47
trukuloet = enemy territory09:47
Fr0D0hi...anyone have a solution for the kde menu editor in kubuntu?09:47
zenroxet can be run nativly trukulo09:47
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universaltrukulo, yeah, actually that is what makes it wierd. When playing games like ET it works fine, but Cedega must be the problem the09:47
trukulozenrox, exact09:47
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universaltrukulo, but what....hm,mmm09:47
delltonyFr0D0, you have to upgrade to 3.409:48
trukulozenrox, want to know if it's weel configured with GL in linux09:48
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delltonyaccording to riddell09:48
trukulouniversal, so drivers seems well installed then09:48
zenroxtrukulo,  glxinfo09:48
trukulocedega configuration?09:48
Fr0D0Hi tony, how do I don that...? Synaptic?09:48
delltonybut i can't seem to get it to upgrade due to depend issues he was working on recompiling the kdebase earlier09:48
universaltrukulo, yes, hmm09:48
trukulozenrox, yes, glxinfo and glxgears works too09:48
Fr0D0ok, I will wait then09:49
Fr0D0np...patience is golden09:49
trukulouniversal, how many fps do you have with glxgears?09:49
zenroxtrukulo,  warty or hoary09:49
delltonyyou have to add the repository, he went to lunch or whatever last i spoke with him09:49
delltonyi am hoping he will be back09:49
universaltrukulo, 61989 frames in 5.0 seconds = 12397.800 FPS09:49
trukulozenrox, my problem is for igp 320m in hoary09:50
delltonyand Fr0D0 read the topic ;) thats where you can find the repository entry09:50
Fr0D0I am wondering if kde is worth it for me...I know it very well, and it is smooth, but always seems to generate issues09:50
trukulouniversal, seems very well for X09:50
zenroxtrukulo, dont know that so i cant help you09:50
RiddellFr0D0: kmenueditor will work in KDE 3.409:50
delltonyhey riddell09:50
zenroxtrukulo,  the igp320m09:50
trukulozenrox, i don't have dri working09:51
Fr0D0Hi Riddel. do I have to add repositories?09:51
trukuloand i read a LOT09:51
trukuloi swear you09:51
universaltrukulo, yes, could it be possible that its cedega which is so lowsy?09:51
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trukulohave modules ati_igp, radeon , agpgart and radeon loaded09:51
delltonyFr0D0, read the topic that is there the deb repository is there09:51
trukulouniversal, probably, look in google for cedega and problems with nvidia drivers09:51
Fr0D0coolness...ty09:52
trukulozenrox, and glxinfo said me no dri working09:52
trukulobut, in live cd, it works09:52
trukulodon't know where i can have the problem09:52
trukuloin hoary updated at all09:52
zenroxtrukulo,  read www.ubuntuguide.org for your nvidia drivers and how to get them worken09:52
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trukulozenrox, i don't have nvidia09:52
zenroxati then09:52
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trukulouniversal problem is other than mine09:52
universaltrukulo, ok, but yesterday i mounted my crt-screen instead of my Flatscreen which im using now, and actually the performance changed...?09:53
trukuloi did09:53
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trukulouniversal, that's very strange, i can't help you, try to read about cedega in google, and nvidia drivers09:53
universaltrukulo, yeah, so maybe it has something to do with my screen options09:53
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universaltrukulo, ok, but thx anyway09:53
trukulouniversal, could be, but you have a very well performance with glx09:53
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trukulozenrox, i've read everything about dri and ati igp in ubuntu forums, many times09:54
Maakuthdoh, via's drivers are for linux 2.409:54
Maakuthbut hey, linux 2.6 series seem to have support for my sata-raid \o/09:55
trukuloand i used xorg.conf of livecd , but no answer09:55
Maakuthit's not compiled though.. cool09:55
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joshua__Hey.  Is mplayer not even available in universal?  I apt-cache search "mplayer" but nothing came up.09:56
trukulojoshua__, look for marillat on ubuntu wiki09:56
joshua__Hrm.  K.  Thanks, trukulo09:56
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Tomcat_joshua__: mplayer seems to be in multiverse.09:56
joshua__Do any other media player support wmv?09:57
socommHello, how to set X.org's cursor?09:57
Maakuthdarn.. this maybe sounds pervert but i miss old linux 2.4.x like xconfig :P09:57
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socommjoshua__: You'll need the win32 codecs, to playback Window's Media Video format.09:57
LoioshOh now I remember09:57
trukulosocomm, gcursor09:57
delltonyxine,vlc  might need the w32codec package though09:57
socommtrukulo: I'll give that a shot.09:57
universaljoshua__, it should be... but i think mplayer is something that schould be installed as a komlilation09:58
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universaljoshua__, it should be... but i think mplayer is something that schould be installed as a conmpilation09:58
trukulojoshua__, try xine09:58
jeff__hey guys, is there any way that i can get my webcam to broadcast with ubuntu09:58
trukulototem-xine works like a charm09:58
universaldoes someone know about ROSEGARDEN4, which i cannot install correct??09:58
tvaughanjoshue: webcam support sucks in Linux I'm afraid09:58
tvaughanYou probably need xawtv but depending on the drivers you won't get anything near decent performance09:59
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jreiyou can install a streamserver an broadcast with that09:59
socommtrukulo: Doesn't one still need the win32 codecs to play back wmv formatted stuff under xine?09:59
delltonyok cool Riddell the upgrade worked09:59
jeff__hmm any links on the steps needed to be takeing for htat09:59
jeff__*that10:00
trukulosocomm, yes, look for marillat10:00
Riddelldelltony: kick arse.  does the kmenu work? and kcontrol?10:00
socommtrukulo: I've all ready got it going, I was just musing.10:00
trukulosocomm, w32codecs - Divx codecs10:00
trukuloin marillat's repository10:00
socommtrukulo: Thanks for the gcursor suggestion by the way.10:00
trukuloyou're wellcome10:01
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delltonykmenu appears to work10:01
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delltonylet em add a menu to test10:01
Riddelldelltony: you'll need kmenuedit for 3.4 which you won't have10:01
blizahany reason you guys know that gedit will not let me save a notifier.conf file?10:01
delltonyhmm i think i do10:01
trukuloblizah, perms ?10:01
delltonycause it came up with a menu editor10:02
blizahoh10:02
blizahheh10:02
trukuloblizah, try with sudo gedit10:02
zenroxblizah,  you should be running sudo to edit that file and save that file10:02
blizahk10:02
trukulozenrox, no idea about igp problem ?10:02
blizahwhere is sudo gedit  under ubuntu?10:03
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trukuloblizah, alt+f210:03
trukuloand write sudo gedit10:03
blizahk10:03
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delltonyRiddell, now thats what i'm talking about10:04
delltonykiller10:04
delltonynow to just find some man pages to learn kde a littl better so i can navigate i'll be as good as gold10:04
universaldoes someone know about ROSEGARDEN4, which i cannot install correct??10:05
blizahtrukulo nothing happens with alt-f2 run sudo gedit10:05
LoioshFound the answer to my question, yay10:05
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trukuloblizah, open a console10:05
trukuloand write sudo gedit10:06
johnnybezakuniversal: whats the problem10:06
uMkuluthe problem is, like, i cant open it via menu10:06
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copilotmy system resource thing is telling me the processor is 80-95% in use, but top doesn't list anything using more than 3-5% the system is noticably lagged10:07
blizahk tnx10:07
Riddelldelltony: help:/khelpcenter/userguide/10:07
johnnybezakcopilot: is top showing things in order of cpu use10:07
copilotI thought so, it just dropped back down10:08
copilothmm10:08
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blizahsry for all these questions but where is firefox located under ubuntu?10:10
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FireHi10:10
michel_vugh10:11
michel_vI'm getting folders disappearing when I click on them in hoary now O_o10:11
AbaCatsHi all could somebody help me here with wireless network configuration?10:11
johnnybezakblizah: open a terminal and type "whereis firefox"10:11
jreiAbaCats: maybe10:12
delltonyRiddell, thanks for you help i hope to contribute as much as i can10:12
delltonythanks again10:12
blizahoh wow cool10:12
universaljohnnybezak, as i whant to configure Rosegarden4 it sais labrary not found please check you installation10:12
FireI have a problem. My Wireless LAN connection worked well. Afterward, i rebooted the computer in Windows, and then again in Ubuntu. Now, it does say at the WLAN Traffic Monitor "N/V" (N/A) and says, when i try to ping, that "Network is unreachable". My router says, the computer is connected to the router via DHCP.10:12
FireWhat have I to do?10:12
universaljohnnybezak, what to do10:12
vIdArHi! i have a serious problem, i tried to mount a ntfs driv during boot, in  /etc/fstab i added a line, and set it to auto detect partition. now it hangs!10:12
johnnybezakuniversal: which library?10:12
AbaCatsI just installed hoary array 6 and I'm using a 3com atheros based card, but it's not configured10:12
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universaljohnnybezak, checking for extra includes... no10:13
universalchecking for extra libs... no10:13
universalchecking for libz... -lz10:13
universalchecking for libpng... -lpng -lz -lm10:13
universalchecking for libjpeg6b... no10:13
universalchecking for libjpeg... -ljpeg10:13
Riddelldelltony: thanks for your help10:13
universalchecking for perl... /usr/bin/perl10:13
universalchecking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.1 (20021021)) (library qt-mt) not found. Please check your installation!10:13
universalFor more details about this problem, look at the end of config.log.10:13
jreiarg10:13
universalMake sure that you have compiled Qt with thread support!10:13
universalroot@universal:/home/universal/rosegarden-4-0.9.91 #10:13
universaloh sry all!10:13
Riddelluniversal: do you have Qt installed?10:13
Firedont flood with this please, use a webpage copy and paste or something10:13
trukulouniversal, install qt dev libraries10:13
johnnybezakno he doesnt10:13
jreiAbaCats: klick on system->administration ->networking10:13
universalhmm10:13
universalone moment10:13
johnnybezakuniversal: you need to install the libraries that trukulo said, open up synaptic and install them10:14
FireCould anyone help me with my problem?10:14
vIdArHi! i have a serious problem, i tried to mount a ntfs drive during boot, in  /etc/fstab i added a line, and set it to auto detect partition. now it hangs during boot!10:14
FireI dont understand it does not work afzer just a reboot.10:14
trukuloFire, route -n10:14
jreiAbaCats: or you can look if iwconfig say something about a wireless device10:14
trukulolook if you have correct routing10:14
universaljohnnybezak, and not Qt3 dev?10:15
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delltonyRiddell, one quick question if its not too much of a bother i know i need to read the manual and will you know how you have the option on initial install to select the enviroment clone like windows and so forth on kde is there a way to switch after that initial install ? i wa sjust wanted to look at the different styles if you will10:16
Fireno entries in it, trukulo10:16
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Riddelldelltony: run kpersonalizer10:17
trukuloFire, that's your problem then10:17
delltonyaww ok thank you10:17
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Firetrukulo: Why?10:17
trukuloFire, no route, no network connection10:18
universaljohnnybezak, ok, now the dev. are installed and the config goes further, but then is says...10:18
johnnybezakuniversal: no youre right install qt3 dev10:18
trukuloeasy10:18
Firetrukulo: I configured eth1 at the network controlpanel.10:18
johnnybezakuniversal: yep10:18
trukuloFire, now, you need a gateway10:18
universaljohnnybezak, checking if Qt needs -ljpeg... no10:18
universalchecking for rpath... yes10:18
universalchecking for KDE... configure: error:10:18
universalin the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.10:18
universalSo, check this please and use another prefix!10:18
trukulothat's what route is for10:18
vIdAris there a way to skip things during boot?10:18
Firetrukulo: i also tried iwconfig, ifconfig and added  route add default gw10:18
johnnybezakuniversal: hmm ok10:19
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johnnybezakuniversal: is there an install readme?10:19
trukulofire, with sudo?10:19
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trukulosudo route add default gw <ip>10:19
johnnybezakuniversal: because its looking for kde (which you don't have installed and shouldnt actually need)10:19
universaljohnnybezak, yes, but u think its because i should use KDE instead of GMONE?10:20
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Firetrukulo: Already done; "Error resolving hostname"10:20
trukulofire: try hostname10:20
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johnnybezakuniversal: universal, you shouldnt need to no - look in synaptic for the kde libs (its probably a pretty big download)10:20
Firetrukulo: ups, no.10:20
Firetrukulo: "Network is not avaible" is the error.10:20
trukulofire: here you have10:20
universaljohnnybezak, KDE what?10:21
Firetrukulo: hm?10:21
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trukuloyou even have localhost interface working?10:21
cybergasmWhat is the root password after installing Ubuntu?10:21
Riddelluniversal: kdelibs4-dev10:21
Fireerr. that means, truk?10:21
trukulocybergasm, none10:21
cybergasmokok10:21
johnnybezakjohnnybezak: what ridell said10:21
trukuloFire, sudo ifconfig lo10:21
trukulocybergasm, ubuntu doesn't use root account10:22
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universalRiddell, ok thx ;)10:22
vIdArcan someone here please help me with my problem?10:22
johnnybezakvIdAr: whats the matter10:22
Fireworks well, trukolo10:22
vIdAri tried to mount a ntfs drive during boot, in  /etc/fstab i added a line, and set it to auto detect partition. now it hangs during boot.10:22
Fire(i mean sudo ifconfig lo)10:23
johnnybezakvIdAr: can you edit the config file in anyway?10:23
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universalRiddell, u have Rosegarden?10:23
trukuloFire, sudo hostname fire10:24
Firewhy hostname 'fire'? :)10:24
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trukulowell, it's the fist thing i thougt10:25
vIdArjohnnybezak: dont'n know, i cant do anything, because it hangs when it get to the mounting. it tries to read it as linux partition first, but then it just hangs.10:25
Firetruk: Done.10:25
universalok, now it WORKS ;) thx10:25
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trukuloFire, route now10:26
felixdZAfter three days of messing about with Gentoo I am back with Ubuntu.10:26
trukuloyou know: route add default bla bla bla10:26
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Fire"unable to lookup fire via gethostbyname()10:27
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felixdZUbuntu is so easy. 0 to gnu in a half an hour!10:27
trukuloFire, umm, then i'm lost10:27
vIdArjohnnybezak: if i just could get to the "command line", i would edit the fstab file. is there a way to skip the mounting?10:27
Firetrukulo: I am too...10:27
BiteMeBillvIdAr: boot into single user.10:28
airoxWhen i connect to a ftp with gnome so a icon get's on the desktop, can I edit from this ftp server ? Like in editing webpages ?10:28
vIdArhow do i do that?10:28
Firetrukulo: "Now it is gone - Again error:" Network is unavaible10:28
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airoxI saw a nice thing called LUFS that would do the same trick, but I guess it's to unstable yet ??10:29
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BiteMeBillvIdAr: type single into the boot prompt10:29
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blizahi typed "sudo dpkg -i gmail-notify-1.5.deb"  where did it install?10:30
blizahjust curious10:30
RochaHello, i'm in real trouble, i need help.10:30
airoxblizah: On you're filesystem ?10:30
airoxRocha: Help is here!10:30
RochaHow can I scan a document with a scanner in ubuntu?10:30
vIdArBiteMeBill: before it starts loading everything?10:30
RochaI tried xsane doesn't work10:30
RochaScanning devices...10:31
blizahwhere in the filesystem?10:31
BiteMeBillvIdAr: yes that the boot prompt.  Normally gives you so many seconds before it boots.10:31
RochaFailed to open device `snapscan:libusb:001:003' Invalid argument.10:31
blizahk nvm10:31
blizahi did a whereis10:31
BiteMeBillRocha: have you tried to use Sane?10:31
vIdArBiteMeBill: ok, thanks. i'll try that10:32
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RochaBiteMeBill, yup, xsane that is available in the graphics menu10:32
airoxblizah: You can 'unpack' the .deb with dpkg to! Just do dpkg --help and you will see some options for it.10:32
BiteMeBillRocha: yes.10:33
RochaBiteMeBill, it doesn't work10:33
blizahi did unpack it and all is well...10:33
BiteMeBillthat snapscan error is that the error you got?10:33
airoxblizah: Then it's ok?10:33
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blizahyea i was just woundering where it went...but i did a whereis and it told me :D10:34
blizahtnx10:34
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GarySavedI notice there is 'synaptic package manager', and a 'ubuntu update manager'.  It the ubuntu thing going to replace the package manager eventually?10:34
RochaBiteMeBill, yup, that's the error10:35
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StoffBox-Steveno GarySaved , you can Update your hoary with the update manager but you cant install new software :) i think it just a GUI for apt-get dist-upgrade an dont will be more in the nexttime10:36
BiteMeBillRocha: Have you looked at the Sane project site?  I'm sure your not the first to get that error.10:37
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GarySavedThe reason I ask is I wonder if ubuntu will break off its debian links, and become an independent distribution.10:37
BiteMeBillRocha: What type of scanner are you using?10:37
GarySavedIt is already more stable than debian.10:38
RochaAgfa snapscan e2010:39
Rocha(usb)10:39
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airoxDoes the gnome VFS support SFTP and FTP writing ?10:40
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michel_vairox: it does10:40
StoffBox-Stevehehe GarySaved , but debian support many many systems ubuntu is only for a few systems, and more a desktoo than an allrounder like debian :)10:40
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BiteMeBillRocha: I would look on the project site and maybe google/linux I'm sure you aren't the onlyone that scanner should be supported.10:41
blizahhow do i autostart programs when i boot/10:41
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LinuxJonesblizah, when you start gnome or when you start your computer ?10:42
Rocharocha@ubuntu:~$ sudo scanimage -L10:42
Rochadevice `snapscan:libusb:001:003' is a AGFA SNAPSCAN flatbed scanner10:42
Rocharocha@ubuntu:~$10:42
blizahgnome10:42
RochaBiteMeBill, it detects the scanner10:42
LinuxJonesgnome-session-properties >> startup programs10:42
GarySavedStoffBox-Steve, Well, I think it is well on its way.  I have always sworn by Debian, but upon switching to ubuntu, I am sold.10:43
apokryphosLinuxJones: out of interest, what would you have to do to autostart programs when you start your computer?10:44
LinuxJonesGarySaved, it is very nice and the irc channel is alot better too :)10:44
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LinuxJonesapokryphos, it would be a custom script more than likely or a service10:45
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LinuxJonesapokryphos, update-rc.d is used to manage the runlevels, but it's not very intuitive :P10:45
StoffBox-Stevedebian is very nice, but i think for must "normal" desktopUser or freshLinux user ubuntu is the best :) im testet debian gentoo and ubuntu :) and i stand by ubuntu10:45
StoffBox-Steve@ GarySaved10:45
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LinuxJonesapokryphos, as an example update-rc.d servicename defaults   would add startup scripts for runlevels 2-5 for the servicename script in /etc/init.d/10:47
GarySavedWhen I go to logon to the ubuntulinux site, I get a security warning.  Should this concern me?10:47
LinuxJonesbbiab10:48
apokryphosI see. Thanks, LinuxJones.10:48
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NekohayoHi, I've got some files that were most likely named using windows japanese codings (don't know which), is there a way to get them to display in hoary with UTF8? (for example, my filename is ?+-A-?.mp3, and I'd like it to display something more sensible). Sorry if this has already been asked, I can only see the "UTF8 Migration Tool" and "UTFEightByDefault" pages (I did use the migration tool however)10:48
OrangeSliceI think windows uses shift_jis, instead of utf-8 fonts10:49
Nekohayois there a way to convert this? (with a preview mode or something)10:50
universalRiddell, are u there?10:50
Riddelluniversal: I'm here10:50
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dj747Hi, I just burned Ubuntu to a cd and booted it up and when I try to enter the setup it says "Invalid or currupt image."10:50
Nekohayotry burning the cd again, slower10:51
Nekohayoand running (maybe I'm wrong there, didn't see any) a MD5Sum test10:51
dj7472x isn't low enough?10:51
ompauldj747, did you use linux or windows to burn it?10:51
universalRiddell, i have make installed the rosegarden, but as i start it it says :waiting for sequencer to come up...and nothing more happens10:51
Nekohayo...nevermind then XD10:51
dj747windows10:51
Riddelluniversal: sounds like a rosegarden problem, try google or a rosegarden channel10:52
dj747does it make a difference what OS I burn from?10:52
universalok10:52
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ompauldj747, I am sorry I don't know enough about windows,10:52
Nekohayowhich software did you use?10:53
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Fire??????10:53
dj747Roxio10:53
Nekohayonero or alcohol 120% always worked with me10:53
ompauldj747, it should not, but there is (A) something wrong with the image you downloaded (B) the software10:53
Nekohayo.........okay, try with nero10:53
j4cboi'm trying to get ubuntu to dual-boot on my Powerbook Titanium... what's the right way to set up the partition table?10:53
Nekohayonever trusted roxio myself10:53
crimsununiversal: make sure alsa's configured correctly, particularly wrt sequencer10:53
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ompauldj747, and I would doubt it is the image if you have dsl10:54
universalcrimsun, ok, so how to configurate?10:54
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mz2dvd playback stutters10:54
mz2didn't use to be like this in warty10:54
crimsununiversal: start here: http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=AlsaMidi10:54
j4cboi have an extra partition, if i tell it to format that one and leave everything else alone will it not mess with my osx install?10:55
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joshua__I installed xine, but I can't find the "win32 codecs" package via apt-cache.  Anyone know the name of the package?  I just need wmv support.10:56
universalcrimsun, hmm, ye10:56
crimsunjoshua__: w32codecs, in debian-marillat10:56
cybergasmjust installed Ubuntu. I want to mount an NTFS hdd but i havent set a root password, what is the default root password?10:56
crimsuncybergasm: use sudo with your user's password10:56
joshua__newbie Put your user password if you're using sudo10:57
PhillboDoes anyone know how to connect to another server using pptp? is there an easy GUI that I'm missing?10:57
cybergasmthanks10:57
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joshua__crimsun:  What's debian-marillat?  A mirror?10:57
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cybergasmlike this? cybergasm@cybergasm:/mnt $ sudo cybergasm10:58
crimsunjoshua__: it's a repository. See http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats10:59
Ribscybane: sudo command10:59
joshua__Thanks, crimsun.10:59
Ribserm10:59
Ribscybergasm, that is10:59
cybergasmsudo: cybergasm: command not found10:59
mz2how'd i make hdparm -d1 the default on bootup (is there something i could change in an existing piece of configuration to make it work)10:59
Ribscybergasm: the command you want to run as root, type that, but put the command 'sudo' in front of it11:00
Ribseasy11:00
michelehello, I have a problem with Xine, the DVD plays in the notebook screen but not in the external monitor, can someone help me ?11:00
ompaulcybergasm, sudo df <-- that will run df as root after you issue your password to the machine11:00
cybergasmok, thanks for your help11:01
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universalcrimsun, i cant figure out what i should configurate11:02
universalcrimsun, maybe something i should apt-get=11:02
ompaulwhich version of Christian Marillat's excellent software should I get for hoary array 5 ?11:02
ompaulI need to d/l it here and use sneaker net to get it to the other machine11:03
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crimsununiversal: start here: http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=AlsaMidiOverview11:03
crimsunI have to go back to work.11:03
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universalcrimsun, ok thx11:04
smarthurim having a problem with the ubuntu install - i get along fine until it tries to mount my cd drive, and then it says it can't mount it, even though it loaded the setup program from cd.  i've tried various boot options like noapic or nolapic but still no dice.  any thoughts?11:05
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micheleI have a notebook with an external monitor and everything works fine but when I try to use Xine to play a DVD on the external monitor I see a blue box and but in the notebook panel I see the images, can someone help me ?11:05
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ompaulgotit11:06
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FrodoI had to remove kubuntu...kde 3.4 didn't work right11:07
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Frodobut now I have boot problems because kubuntu grubbed my drive11:07
FrodoI want to boot to hda1 now not hda611:08
InitMassi've got an inspiron 8600, centrino based with an Broadcom network card. can i expect it to work out-ot-thoe-box with Ubuntu?11:08
Frodo'/proc/partitions' does not match '/dev' directory structure.11:08
Frodo    Name change: '/dev/dm-0' -> '/dev/evms/hda1'11:08
Frodotrying to replace grub with lilo11:08
WebMaven_Any devs here?11:08
Frodonot working11:08
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FrodoI can still boot from grub boot floppy11:09
Frodobut having problems writing it to my drive to mbr11:10
Frodomy advise:  dont try kubuntu yet...11:11
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Frodoand. I should've known better...lol I'm a dumb ass11:12
Frodoanyone with any Ideas how to get my bootloader to work again?11:13
billytwowillyhello, how do I add mp3 encoding support to sox?11:13
FrodoI have been reading the man pages, etc11:13
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Loevborgdoes anyone know how to disable the highly annoying pc speaker beep?11:14
FrodoBilly you got two willy?11:14
Loevborg(ideally only in X)11:14
billytwowillyFrodo, Yes, yes I do. Thus the name.11:14
billytwowillyFrodo, do you have a tiny hobbit winky?11:15
FrodoLOL11:15
johnnybezakLoevborg: what beep11:15
Loevborgjohnnybezak, "\a"11:15
billytwowillynow, on a serious note, Chief billytwowilly is/was a character from royal Canadian Air farce.11:15
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cybergasmhow can i edit /etc/fstab? i dont have writing rights to the file with my normal user11:16
Frodomy dad flew spitfire for the rcaf11:16
billytwowillycybergasm, do it as root..11:16
billytwowillysudo pico /etc/fstab11:16
ompaulFrodo, which supermarine version?11:16
bluefoxicycyborgasm11:16
cybergasmgot it now11:16
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cybergasmi'm used to having a root account and a root password in linux11:17
FrodoOctober 27, 1941Bf109fSupermarine SpitfireS of DunkirkGalland downed Sgt. Brian Hodgkinson of Canada, who survived the war as a prisoner. He was from the 401 Squadron311:18
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Frodomy dad11:18
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billytwowillyhmm. that would make frodo what? 50?11:19
Frodoyep11:19
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joeblow1234Hey, I just downloaded the OpenOffice.org 2.0 Beta. I don't want to upgrade to Hoary at this time, so I am converting the RPM files to DEB files with alien. Does anyone see any problems with this?11:19
billytwowillyI'd just upgrade to hoary, but I like to live on the edge;)11:20
billytwowillyYou may have conflicts later, but they probably could be resolved by removing the debs and reinstalling the official ones at a later date..11:20
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FrodoBilly any ideas how to get grub back on my mbr , I have a boot disk that is working11:21
billytwowillyno idea.11:21
billytwowillyI don't do technical stuff like that.11:21
joeblow1234I want to test the latest OpenOffice.org, but I need this computer to stay running. It is easy to downgrade from 2.0 beta to 1.1.x....not so easy to downgrade from hoary to warty11:21
billytwowillyI am getting really frustrated with whoever packaged sox though. They didn't include mp3 support or any indication of how to get mp3 support.11:21
ompaulFrodo, interesting11:22
aeolistthat's what the forums and howtos are for man11:22
aeolistfrodo, you have to run grub from the terminal, you'll find more info on that on the howto list11:22
aeolistjust type grub11:22
FrodoMy Dad's book is "Spitfire Down"  it is on Amazon11:22
InitMassanyone who knows if Broadcom 440x works out of the box?11:22
FrodoThanks aeolist11:24
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bulioI ran sudo pppoeconf to get my ethernet dsl modem up11:27
buliogot this:11:27
bulio/usr/sbin/ppd: in file /etc/ppp/peers/provider unrecognized option /dev/modem11:27
bulioWhat is wrong here?11:27
zenroxthe /dev/modem11:28
zenroxwhare is the dsl modem located11:28
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bulioeth0 I believe11:29
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buliohmm11:29
LiblitNVIDIA + DVI + Ubuntu LiveCD == black screen11:29
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zenroxbulio look in the forums11:29
buliohow can I tell if my modem is eth0 or eth1?11:29
BiteMeBilltry ifconfig /all11:30
BiteMeBillopps..  ifconfig -a11:30
virtualdeh11:30
virtuald:D11:30
johnnybezakjust changed my sources for hoary *here goes nothing* :P11:30
bulioBiteMeBill:where?11:31
zenroxbulio,  in a terminal11:31
buliowhat will this do?11:31
BiteMeBillbulio: in terminal it will list all eth devices11:31
bulioI'm in windows atm11:31
buliois there a way I can do it in here11:31
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zenroxnot while you run in window11:32
BiteMeBillNot unless your running Virtual machine or somehting.11:32
buliodamn11:32
buliook11:32
buliowhat do you htink could be wrong?11:32
BiteMeBillbulio: how many network cards are in your system?11:33
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bulio1 I believe11:33
Levanderis there any firewall installed on ubuntu by default?11:33
zenroxLevander,  no11:33
buliook11:33
bulioIn network adapters I have:11:33
buliothe 56k modem11:33
BiteMeBillbulio: then you should only end up with eth0 and no eth111:33
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BiteMeBillYour on DSL correct bulio11:34
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bulioEfficient networks P.P.P.O.E adapter (NTSP3)11:34
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bulioand11:34
BiteMeBillbulio: which version is that?11:34
fuzyhi everyone11:35
bulioMy external dsl modem11:35
buliothen there is11:35
BiteMeBillYes11:35
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bulioHP EN1207D-TX-PCI 10/100 Fast ethernet adapter11:35
buliodiagram is this11:36
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bulioComputer(ethernet card)----Ethernet cable)---->Modem--->phone cable--->phone jack11:36
BiteMeBillbulio: is there a router between your machine and the DSL modem or is the PPOE account information being given by the computer?11:36
bulionic card to modem then phone jack11:37
BiteMeBillok What EF Networks modem model is that?11:37
bulioSpeedstream 5200 dsl modem11:37
BiteMeBillOh ok.. Some of those modems you can have them to the PPPOE information but it shoulds like your system is doing it.11:38
bulioI have sympatico isp11:38
bulioyou know with the pppoe auth client it has11:38
BiteMeBillbulio: So in on the ubuntu install you will have to enter your PPPOE account information into it so that it will log you into your ISP11:39
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bulioI'm using the live cd right now11:39
buliocan't install it11:39
BiteMeBillbulio: Give me a second I want to look up that modem and see if it can do the PPPOE logon like the 5100 can.11:39
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elcucohi, the display was really bad when i installed ubuntu, and i did not really see which question was the one which aksed for a root password.11:40
elcucois there a default root password here?11:40
TPCelcuco, no11:40
TPCelcuco, the root account is disabled by default11:40
buliowhat do most of you have here?11:41
buliocable internet?11:41
TPCelcuco, you have to use sudo. if you want to use the root account like normal you have to set a password on it using sudo and passwd.11:41
zenroxadsl11:41
zenroxdhcp viraity11:41
TPCbulio, adsl and cable depending on location. both 8mbps :)11:41
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buliofor me, that isn't an option11:41
zenroxrouter also so if thay switch to a pppoe type i wont have to screw with it in linux11:41
elcucoTPC, how do i install new packages then?11:42
bulioso If I bought a router, it'd work?11:42
BiteMeBillbulio: Can you look at the modem and see if there is a yellow sticker on it saying an IP address?11:42
cybergasmhow do i get permission to brows through one of my mounted ntfs drives?11:42
buliomy ip is dynamic11:42
TPCelcuco, you can use synaptics (its in the menu)11:42
zenroxbulio,  most routers do the pppoe ling for you11:42
zenroxling= login11:42
buliothis sucks11:42
elcucoTPC, cool... :(11:42
buliofirst I was told if I had an ethernet card, it'd work fine11:42
bulionow I need to buy a oruter?11:43
bulio*router11:43
bulioheh11:43
BiteMeBillbulio: once you make it over the PPPOE problem you will solve more than you know.11:43
bulioprobably11:43
zenroxbulio,  also too a router will help firewall your box11:43
buliojust depressed11:43
BiteMeBillbulio: do you have any old computers laying around?11:43
elcucoTPC, whats the password...?11:43
bulio7 months trying to get internet in distros11:43
TPCelcuco, your normal user account password11:43
elcucoTPC, wierd...11:43
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FrodoSuccess, rewrote my grub to mbr and all ok now...learned a few tricks11:44
buliono old computers11:44
buliowhat do you suggest doing?11:44
BiteMeBillbulio: did you look at the bottom of your modem and see if there was a yellow sticker with an IP address on it?11:45
bulionone11:45
bulioas I said, I have a dynamic ip11:45
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BiteMeBillDratz... Some of the 5200's will let you put the PPOE information in them and some won't.11:46
BiteMeBillDoesn't matter if you have dynamic or not.  Just need to put your PPPOE login information into a client.11:46
buliohmm11:46
bulioso what exactly is the problem?11:46
buliopppoe won't pass them modem?11:46
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InitMassshould i burn the ubuntu iso as cd-rom(boot) or cd-rom(iso) in Nero??11:47
BiteMeBillbulio: you already said that your getting an error with pppoeconfig11:47
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zenroxInitMass,  iso11:47
buliohmm11:47
BiteMeBillInitMass: change the .iso to a .nrg and then just double click it and Nero will do all the work easier.11:47
uMkuluBiteMeBill: that doesn't look right11:47
BiteMeBilluMkulu: What do you mean?11:48
uMkulubugger all, i dunno, bitemebill11:48
zenroxBiteMeBill,  umkulu is a bot11:48
buliowhat else can I do bill?11:48
elcucowhat package will get me a media player for viewing videos on web sites? i know about kaffeine, but i am looking for a more gnome oriented application11:49
zenroxelcuco,  gxine11:49
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BiteMeBillbulio: Hold on let me get the IP address off my EF Networks modem.  We will see if we can get lucky.11:49
elcucozenrox, i assume it embedes itself in firefox...11:49
buliook11:49
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zenroxya elcuco it does11:49
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BiteMeBillbulio: does this address take you anywhere?  http://192.168.0.111:50
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jah_Hey people11:50
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jah_I've been installing Ubuntu all day, and having no luck - ive had to install slack, just for BitchX so i can get help =)11:50
elcucozenrox, .. in which repository is it found?11:51
bulioBiteMeBill:Nope11:51
jah_The problem is - I cn install Ubuntu - but X will not load11:51
BiteMeBillbulio: I just re read your error...  Is Ubuntu even seeing your NIC card?11:51
jah_Im installing warthog from CD11:51
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zenroxsearch the wiki for the  universe11:51
zenroxrepo11:51
jah_After installation X fails to load, with an error "(EE) No devices found" and "No screen found"11:51
jah_:/11:51
bulioI'm not sure11:51
zenroxand marlettet for the w32codechs11:51
buliohow can I tell>?11:51
BiteMeBillbulio: your booting a liveCD correct?11:52
Badernaked women rox :) (ubuntu-calendar powered)11:52
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greg_is it possible for me to share a printer so that a windows computer on the network can print on my printer?11:52
jah_So does anyone know what may be wrong here?11:52
BiteMeBillgreg_: Yes Samba is needed.11:52
bulioBiteMeBill:Yep11:52
jah_I have tried nvidia (the installed "nv" driver) as well as vga and vesa11:53
jah_None will boot X :/11:53
BiteMeBillbulio: the DSL modem is connected to your machine via cat cable and not USB correct?11:53
zenroxjah_,  do a sudo modprob nvidia11:53
Loevborgjah_, plug in your monitor11:53
zenroxthen do a sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart11:54
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bulioBiteMeBill:Correct, it's ethernet, not dsl11:54
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jah_Lol the monitor is plugged in11:54
BiteMeBillbulio: DSL is ethernet.11:54
bulioyeah11:54
jah_modprobe nvidia. ok thanks11:54
bulioI meant usn11:54
BiteMeBillok11:54
bulio*usb11:54
BiteMeBillLOL11:54
jah_If it doesnt work i shall be back in half an hour ;-)11:54
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BiteMeBillbulio: do you know what your nick card is?11:55
bulio?11:55
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BiteMeBillbulio: I was going to make sure that it's linux compat. since your getting the modem error like it's not seeing your nic.11:55
buliooh11:56
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BiteMeBillbulio: I'll send you a file called Aida32. run it and it will tell you everything about your windows machine you can then look and see what nic it is.11:56
buliook11:57
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bulio1 sec11:57
buliowait11:57
bulioI've got everest11:58
buliosame thing11:58
greg_who do I view my internal IP address11:58
greg_ipconf or something right?11:58
BiteMeBilleverest?11:58
bulioyeah11:58
BiteMeBillifconfig11:58
buliosame as aida3211:58
BiteMeBillwell then run that and it will tell you.11:58
buliook11:58
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BiteMeBillbulio: Doing a text report with a program like those can be a lifesaver.11:59
buliowhat do you need from it?11:59

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