/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2005/03/16/#ubuntu.txt

BiteMeBillbulio: what network card do you have?12:00
=== fett_ [~fett@d6-227.rb.clm.centurytel.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
=== Quarupt [~Quarupt@c-67-170-1-214.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
BiteMeBillzenrox: Why did that bot tell me something didn't look right?12:00
QuaruptHow can I male it so i can call the limewire script from anywhere? put it in my PATH?12:00
Quaruptmake12:01
=== bradb [~bradb@modemcable093.84-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu
bulioPci/PnP network:12:01
bulioDevice DescriptionType12:01
bulioHewlett-Packard EN1207D-TX 10/100 Fast Ethernet AdapterPCI12:01
BiteMeBillbulio: Ok BRB12:02
cybergasmwhat version of debian is ubuntu based on?12:02
LevanderIs there anything to getting a default ubuntu mysql install to allow connections to come in from other machines other than commenting out skip-networking in my.cnf?12:02
Quaruptsid12:02
=== vpalle [~vpalle@park222.koll.au.dk] has joined #ubuntu
Quaruptcybergasm, Im pretty sure its sid12:03
=== jpvcx [foobar@f253011.upc-f.chello.nl] has joined #ubuntu
Quaruptmaybe Warty is based on woody or sarge and Hoary is based on sid12:04
=== zeedo [~zeedo@www.bsrf.org.uk] has joined #ubuntu
LoevborgLevander, yes12:04
mjrQuarupt, not exactly12:04
LoevborgLevander, the permissions for your databases might specify that only localhost ist allowed12:05
mjrwarty is based on sid too, just an earlier snapshot12:05
Quaruptoh12:05
Quaruptwell ya lean something evceryday12:05
QuaruptThanks12:05
LoevborgLevander, to check: mysql -uroot -p mysql, select * from user;12:06
Quaruptmjr can you refresh my memory on how so add a .sh to your path so it can be galled anywhere?12:06
=== j^ [~j@gw.bootlab.org] has joined #ubuntu
Quaruptsomething in bash.rc right?12:06
=== mikep [~mikep@c-24-0-3-105.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
Quaruptor basgrc.conf or whatever is is12:07
=== Dr_Acemaster [~Dr_Acemas@c-24-11-89-119.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
Quaruptbashrc.conf12:07
=== vpalle [~vpalle@park222.koll.au.dk] has joined #ubuntu
=== IRCsloth_ [~cswanson@blk-224-208-237.eastlink.ca] has joined #ubuntu
scizzoanyone knows which is used mostly acpid or apm?12:09
spiral'night12:09
billytwowillyacpid12:09
=== IRCMonkey [~chatzilla@65.114.136.54] has joined #ubuntu
billytwowillyapm=old and busted12:09
scizzohmmm..ok12:09
=== Alessio [~Alessio@host208-7.pool8251.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu
=== StoffBox-Steve [~steve@pD9E576B0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu
elcucowhich application do i have to watch tv?12:10
Levanderloevborg, i get table output from that command that looks like it's supposed to be in columns, but the columns get all messed up on my screen12:10
Alessiosorry12:10
Alessioi use gxmame12:10
Alessiobut it doesn't find my roms12:10
Alessiobut hte path is ggod12:10
Alessio*good12:10
=== moyogo [~moyogo@Toronto-HSE-ppp3717779.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu
LoevborgLevander, yes, we all love mysql's output :)12:11
IRCMonkeyI have an installation question for which I have found no help in the support forums12:11
IRCMonkeyanybody willing to listen?12:11
Levanderyou know which columns i'm supposed to look for so i can only query for those, really can't figure out that output12:11
=== raydogg`` [~r@12-220-121-241.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu
LoevborgLevander, "user" I suppose12:11
raydogg``when was array 5 released ?12:12
Quaruptso v=can someone help me add this script to the PATh so i can call it from anywhere12:12
Levanderloevborg, okay, i get root, debian-sys-maint, and root as results12:12
=== Burgundavia [~Burgundav@S0106000000cc07fc.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu
Levanderloevborg, but u know i get the host not allowed message even when i'm using telnet, that doesn't know anything about which user12:13
=== balor [~balor@host81-156-136-139.range81-156.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu
Levandertelnet 127.0.0.1 3306 gives same error12:13
LoevborgLevander, "select Host,User from user;"12:14
LoevborgLevander, if you get "localhost"s, then you've found your problem.12:14
LoevborgLevander, you're probably better off creating a new user for wordpress anyway.12:14
Levanderloevborg, no root is is in two rows, one with localhost as the host, the other with bread (the DNS name of my linux box) in the host column12:15
Levanderloevborg, this is simply to learn more about mysql, i'll get it running, then make it run correctly12:15
LoevborgLevander, you can change that to "%"12:15
IRCMonkeyI have a major installation problem without an apparent solution12:16
Levanderchange what to %?12:16
uMkuluLevander: that doesn't look right12:16
LoevborgLevander, then try if it changes a thing12:16
IRCMonkeymaybe somebody can help me out12:16
BiteMeBillAnyone else here have problems with an HP network card not being compatable?12:16
LoevborgLevander, update Host="%" where user="root";12:16
Phillboanyone set up pptp to a ms2k3 box with warty yet? any help appreciated12:16
LoevborgLevander, but you'd better use the "grant" command for real life - see mysql documentation.12:17
=== pablo928 [~paul@az-yuma-cuda1m-26.losaca.adelphia.net] has left #ubuntu []
Quaruptcan i put export PATH=/home/user/Limewire/runLime.sh:${PATH} anywhere in my bashrc ?12:17
Levanderloevborg, instead of changing all root users to %, can I change just the root user on bread to %? Just sounds safer12:18
Levanderupdate host="%" where user="root" and host="bread"; give me a syntax error12:18
LoevborgLevander, sure. I leave that as an excercise to you to figure out :)12:18
Levanderlearning mysql sux12:18
LoevborgLevander, try single quotes :|12:19
=== vpalle [~vpalle@park222.koll.au.dk] has joined #ubuntu
Quaruptanyone?12:19
Levanderloevborg, same error, i think the problem is i'm not specifying the table name12:19
kentDo a normal desktop need evms to be installed? Enterprise Volume Management sounds like something i dont neeed.. ?12:20
LoevborgLevander, oops sorry, I'm rusty12:20
LoevborgLevander, update user etc etc...12:20
LoevborgLevander, update user set host='%' where ...;12:20
LoevborgLevander, fortunately, I don't do much sql nowadays :)12:20
=== socomm [~socomm@adsl-69-227-28-149.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== smok [~richard@clyne.plus.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== rcchan [~rcchan@netblock-66-245-251-214.dslextreme.com] has joined #ubuntu
Levanderokay, that worked, i have to commit or anything before trying to connect again?12:21
LoevborgLevander, remember to issue "flush privilleges;" after that12:21
socommAre there any plans for better multimedia integration into ubuntu's interface?12:21
Loevborgwith correct spelling, preferrably :)12:21
Levandersays, okay! i'm about to try it!!!12:21
Levanderuhoh, might be working!!! hold on!!!12:22
=== Quest-Master [~qmaster@c-24-99-26-36.atl.client2.attbi.com] has joined #ubuntu
Levanderwell, telneting into the localhost on that port doesn't kick me out anymore12:23
Levanderbut12:23
=== joaocruz [~joao@ip68-0-220-224.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== joaocruz [~joao@ip68-0-220-224.ri.ri.cox.net] has left #ubuntu []
rcchananybody wanna help a newb (me), with a screen resolution issue?12:23
=== hayden [~hayden@203-219-130-10-qld.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
Levanderusing the mysql connector/odbc on my xp box to connect gives me different error, 'Access denied for root@192.168.254.1'.  That's the IP of my XP box.12:24
=== StoffBox-Steve [~steve@pD9E576B0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu
StoffBox-Steveseems it work :D12:25
haydeni just installed hoary and the cursors changed to default linux ones, how can i change them back to the default ubuntu ones12:27
LoevborgLevander, mysqld just has some decency.12:27
=== El_XiNo [~craig@83.144.134.131] has joined #ubuntu
=== StoffBox-Steve [~steve@pD9E576B0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu
LevanderLoevborg, decency?12:28
Loevborgor taste.12:28
=== Phillbo [~phill@rrcs-66-91-147-154.west.biz.rr.com] has left #ubuntu []
Levanderha, screw u man, this is taking me way to long!12:28
Levanderbut thanks for your help12:28
Levanderi'm gonna look for some docs in the ubuntu wiki, then give up for the day i think12:28
LoevborgLevander, sure. I know the feeling. I hate setting it up myself.12:29
LoevborgLevander, you can also look into the log.12:29
=== rcchan [~rcchan@netblock-66-245-251-214.dslextreme.com] has joined #ubuntu
Levanderidiots in the mysql channel pointed me to the mysql.com docs for grant, that page is like 4,000 words long.  Those guys really help a brother out!12:29
rcchanhas anyone had a need for 855resolution?12:31
johnnybezakif i upgrade all my packages to hoary, what happens with X?12:31
=== Vraly [~EIcg@IGLD-84-228-70-128.inter.net.il] has joined #ubuntu
=== tanek_ [~tanek@h133n3fls32o1104.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== Littlechand [~chand@ABordeaux-151-1-16-198.w82-125.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu
BiteMeBilljohnnybezak: your X moves out but takes your dog with here though.12:33
BiteMeBillsorry couldn't resist.12:33
=== rcchan [~rcchan@netblock-66-245-251-214.dslextreme.com] has left #ubuntu []
=== awstott^n [~andrew@d142-59-130-205.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu
johnnybezakBiteMeBill: lol12:35
johnnybezakno but seriously, will it copy my xfree config to wherever the x.org config is stored?12:35
BiteMeBilljohnnybezak: I'm not sure but I haven't heard anyone complain about losing it.12:36
=== dazed [~dazed@adsl-219-156-58.aep.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu
johnnybezakBiteMeBill: ok12:37
=== Rocha [~rocha@194.117.20.168] has joined #ubuntu
=== neuron [~daft@230.80-203-59.nextgentel.com] has joined #ubuntu
RochaHello, just another question...12:37
dazedhey who knows about smb support to get on windows networking???12:37
BiteMeBillRocha: did that work?12:37
RochaHow can I configure my computer to connect to a vpn network?12:37
johnnybezakdazed: i know a little12:37
RochaBiteMeBill, nop, i asked my collegue to make the drawings with open office.12:37
ompaulRocha, the best software I found for that is OpenVPN12:37
dazedjohnny bezak can you help me out?12:38
johnnybezakdazed: i can give it a go :)12:38
Rochaompaul, ok, i'll try that12:38
Rochaompaul, i hope it's easy to configure, i'm in a hurry12:38
ompaulRocha, it should almost work out of the box - you need to let icmp into the network12:38
=== Yannick_ [~chatzilla@Toronto-HSE-ppp3875628.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu
dazedok well im on nix and im on my friends windows network i want to do some file sharing i goto networking click on enable windows networking and it says SMB support is not running12:38
ompaulit needs to keep the hidden channel alive and does so with a ping every 15 seconds as default behaviour12:39
=== StoffBox-Steve [~steve@pD9E576B0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu
Yannick_anyone succeeded on installing grub on and S-ATA drive?12:39
ompaulRocha, it is not bad if you read the docs,  most important thing is to make sure you use the same version of the various ends12:40
Rochaompaul, i want to connect to my university, i need to upload some files to deliver a project i'm working on12:41
ompaulRocha, do they not accept ssh logins?12:42
haydeni just installed hoary and the cursors changed to default linux ones, how can i change them back to the default ubuntu ones12:42
johnnybezakdazed: have you got samba installed?12:43
ompaulRocha, then any machine on the network that accepts ssh connections will allow you run sftp or scp to log in and transfer files12:43
Rochaompaul, only inside our personal accounts, i'm not using my personal account, i'm using a computer inside the computer science department but not my personal account12:43
ompaulwell you need the same software on both ends for the VPN to work12:44
ompaulRocha, or email them all to yourself :)12:44
=== harunL [~blork@c-67-165-105-41.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== techn9ne [~jeremy@S0106000f66ddc57e.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== ompaul hits self for such a waste of bandwidth
=== smo [~soneil@smo.active.supporter.pdpc] has joined #ubuntu
=== rapha [~rapha@p54A08DB3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu
harunLis there anyway of installing ubuntu on a laptop which is currently running windows but has its floppy and cdrom IO screwed up (can't read/write at all) ?12:45
Rochaompaul, i'll send the project by email to my teacher12:45
LoevborgharunL, maybe via usb stick?12:45
Rochaompaul, thanks anyway12:45
ompaulhokay12:45
=== omar [~omar@24-193-228-145.nyc.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
delltonyRiddell, i have a question in kde how do you change the fonts? for instance like firefox the place where you type (address field) the text is small as crap12:46
Riddelldelltony: kcontrol12:47
Riddelldon't know if that effects firefox, shouldn't think so12:47
=== Ziggity [~ziggity@213.137.8.107] has joined #ubuntu
hawke_Riddell: it doesn't..12:47
Ziggityhelp./...12:47
Ziggityconfigure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check when ./configure monodevelop12:47
Ziggitywhats that mean12:47
hawke_delltony: Gnome preferences, font might do it...or it might be in firefox's preferences.12:48
hawke_or kcontrol if under kde possibly.12:48
Ziggityhow do I fix it//12:48
delltonyaww so under themes?12:49
Ziggitywhats that about... configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check12:49
=== plex0r_ [~plex0r@adsl-219-156-58.aep.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== hayden [~hayden@203-219-130-10-qld.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
kentZiggity, do you have the package "build-essential" installed?12:50
plex0r_how do i add a ubuntu system to a windows netrwork12:50
scizzowow....never thought that cleaning up the ratnest of packages would be so boring.... :P12:50
plex0r_the only thing the nix system can do is log onto xchat..12:50
delltonycurious what font do you recommend?12:50
=== plex0r_ is now known as plex0r
Ziggitykent, I don12:50
sic|plex0r: samba12:50
haydeni just installed hoary and when i try to type hash (shift + 3) the english pound sign comes up, how can i fix that12:51
Ziggitykent, I dont know.. how do I check?12:51
ompaulhayden, you can do dpkg-reconfigure locale12:51
ggeeckois ubuntu stable to run a server12:51
ompaulhayden, sudo before that12:51
sic|plex0r: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba/view?searchterm=samba12:51
kentZiggity, do you know how to start synaptic from the menu? Start that program and search for a package named build-essential12:52
=== vince_ [~vince@80-219-106-51.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #ubuntu
haydenok ill try12:52
plex0rit might help if the network card is in too :p12:52
plex0rthis is for dazed12:52
plex0r:p12:52
hayden/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: locale is not installed12:52
sic|plex0r: its usually a good idea to check the wiki or google before asking here...some people get all bent out of shape if you don't research first...I personally don't care..but you know how it is12:53
=== StoffBox-Steve [~steve@pD9E576B0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== aya [~aya@national-2-82-66-184-192.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu
plex0ryeah12:53
sic|of course that applies to any help12:53
=== Keybuk [~scott@syndicate.netsplit.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== Keybuk [~scott@syndicate.netsplit.com] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
=== juan [~juan@200.85.202.53] has joined #ubuntu
lamontphosphorgreen: /etc/postfix/master.cf smtpd entries need to be edited12:53
sic|ubuntu community is by far more helpful then anyone else though....very little I am too l33t to talk to you in here...in fact, I am yet to see that kind of attitude...these people rock12:54
=== ells [~steve@69-171-247-27.clspco.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu
Ziggitykent.. found it.. installing it now..12:55
Ziggitythanx12:55
=== andeeje [~andeeje@82-42-183-138.cable.ubr05.knor.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu
Ziggitydoes anyone here use Monodevelop?12:56
Mitariohmm, if an app that uses an open API (XML RPC) that is released under the LGPL, can I release the app I write under the GPL then? or should I also use the LGPL12:57
haydenompaul, do u know why it said this-> /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: locale is not installed12:57
Ziggityok.. now this error... configure: error: Library requirements (gnome-vfs-2.0 >= 2.012:58
Ziggity) not met; consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your l ibraries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them. HELP!!12:58
ompaulhayden, because at the time I suggested it my brain was fried hang on a sec12:58
Ziggityhow do I adjust that??12:58
haydenompaul, lol ok12:58
Quaruptwhats a good book for linux beginners12:59
Quaruptmaybe a pdf or a ebook i can get?12:59
Quaruptmaybe rute12:59
ompaulQuarupt, any online resource like the ubuntu site or the www.tldp.org12:59
Ziggityhow Do I setup my ubuntu as an Email or webserver??01:00
Ziggityis there any guide??01:00
haydenapache01:00
Quaruptno like i said i want something i can use offline, like an ebook or a pdf01:01
WebMaven_Quarupt: what *kind* of beginner?01:01
techn9neummm theres too much to know for a "guide"01:01
techn9nethe simple stuff is on ubuntuguide01:01
techn9nethe rest you gotta search for as you need it01:01
WebMaven_Quarupt: beginning developer? Beginning User?01:01
techn9neare you looking for a tutorial for command line stuff?01:01
techn9nelike what do you want to do?01:01
=== cocol [~internet@84.119.222.16] has joined #ubuntu
techn9nehttp://www.linuxcommand.org/ ... if you want command line 10101:02
kentZiggity, libgnomevfs2-dev   install that package  and see if it works.01:02
Ziggitywhere can I learn the inners of networking. so that I can setup my ubuntu in a Windows network to share printer and act as a firewall, mail server and possiblly (another machine) as a webserver01:02
=== WebMaven_ [~webmaven@owa.nah.org] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
Quaruptbeginning user01:02
=== StoffBox-Steve [~steve@pD9E576B0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu
Ziggitykent : thanx - -doing that now01:02
=== Amaranth [~travis@ip68-229-188-97.om.om.cox.net] has left #ubuntu ["If]
=== Amaranth [~travis@ip68-229-188-97.om.om.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== OrangeSlice [~orange@dsl-12-160-171-167.elltel.net] has joined #ubuntu
StoffBox-Steve2nd screen goes blank when enter X01:02
techn9neZiggity: ummm find a guide on samba, iptables, apache01:02
andeejedoes anyone know why I cant run teamspeak or a music player and ET at the same time ?01:02
kentZiggity, for information about setting up a server to share files with windows computers, search for samba  on the ubuntu homepage.01:03
ompaulhayden, sorry my brain is really fried why it happened I can't figure out01:03
Ziggitysamba.. ok--01:03
techn9neZiggity: firewalls shouldnt do anything but be a firewall01:03
=== boogie [~boogie@ip24-254-141-158.rn.hr.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu
techn9neif you have a dedicated system smoothwall is good01:03
ompaulhayden, have a look at what is in /etc/locale.gen and tell me (and the channel) then tell me what country you want it to be for01:03
Xenguy_Ziggity: shorewall (firewall) is a good implementation of iptables BTW, and also handles NAT/ipmasq01:03
haydenhmm thats ok ompaul, do u know a website where i could maybe find out for myself01:03
=== mindphasr [~mind@68.31.81.54] has joined #ubuntu
haydenen_AU ISO-8859-101:04
haydenen_AU.UTF-8 UTF-801:04
Xenguy_techn9ne: that makes no sense, and shorewall proves you wrong :-)01:04
haydenAustralia01:04
uMkulurumour has it Australia is the place to be01:04
=== eleazar [~eleazar@200.44.246.250] has joined #ubuntu
johnnybezakdon't believe everything you hear :)01:04
delltonyok this is strange i thought i was doing it right i went to the kcontrol panel after installing lipstick theme and i went to style and selected lipstick and hit apply but i see no changes what am i doing wrong :(01:05
=== Xenguy_ is now known as Xenguy
ZiggityXenguy_, whats NAT??01:05
boogiealligators and lions01:05
XenguyZiggity: network address translation01:05
eleazarhi there, i just installed Ubuntu. but it never asked me to set my root password, now how do i set it?01:05
techn9neok ill try shorewall01:05
XenguyZiggity: basically similar to ipmasq01:05
techn9nei think that firewalls should be a single computer doing nothing but that01:05
plex0rjohnnybezak01:06
plex0rthis is dazed01:06
Xenguytechn9ne: the author is a firewall professional IIRC (and FWIW :-)01:06
ompaulhayden, that does not look right :)01:06
techn9neok01:06
=== boogie [~boogie@ip24-254-141-158.rn.hr.cox.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
haydenhmm01:06
Xenguytechn9ne: I guess a dedicated firewall box (or router) is best practice, but not all of us can afford that (or bother doing things right ;-)01:07
techn9newell i use a p13301:07
techn9necost me $15 on ebay01:07
=== XposerX [~bruce@ool-182d394a.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu
ZiggityOK.. now I got a problem. the MonoDevelop is comaplaining about blah..blah.. gnome-sharp but I can't find it with synamptic!!01:07
=== NeoCicak [~NeoCicak@ppp162-159.static.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu
andeejedoes anyone know why I cant run teamspeak or a music player and Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory at the same time ? ET just freezes01:08
johnnybezakplex0r: yep01:08
=== tga [~thu@S0106000f66aeaf64.vs.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu
johnnybezakandeeje: sounds like a sound problem :P01:08
plex0rjohnnybezak: im trying to net the 2 comps right...and now my nix comp cant even use the internet connection01:08
=== zabulus [~zabulus@dD5771462.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu
plex0ri cant get on xchat or google or gaim or nothing01:09
XenguyZiggity: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_address_translation01:09
johnnybezakplex0r: lol going from bad to worse01:09
=== Xenguy loves wikipedia.org :-)
andeejejohnnybezak: thats what I thought but cant seem to fix it01:09
NeoCicakplex0r: are you connected to the network?01:09
=== StoffBox-Steve [~steve@pD9E576B0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu
plex0ryes01:09
kenthmm,  the trash applet is kind of stupid some times. I tried the gnome svg theme found on gnome-look.org,  and those icons are a bit larger than the default and trash applet gets hidden behind the icon so i cant see if the applet is ready to swallow the file or not, some times the file gets added to the panel instead, since i missed the trash :(  And, those icons are not *that* big, so i think its an issue with the trashcan. It should let me know if its ready t01:09
kento eat files :(01:09
NeoCicakplex0r: can you ping other computers?01:09
zabulusif gnome starts, gaim starts 2 times :s (two windows) how do i put that off?01:09
johnnybezakplex0r: can you ping websites01:09
delltonydo you have to restart kde for styles to take effect?01:09
=== netcrasher [~xxx@bl4-23-122.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #ubuntu
plex0rneocrak...how do i ping?01:09
plex0r\<<--- new to nix01:10
johnnybezakman ping hehe01:10
NeoCicakplex0r: ping <ip address>01:10
techn9neplex0r: ummm type ping01:10
johnnybezakno just type ping -c 5 addresstobepinged01:10
Riddelldelltony: it may only apply to newly started applications01:10
NeoCicakplex0r: quick thought.. maybe your dns is wrong01:10
Xenguyplex0r: ping <ipAddressGoesHere>01:10
johnnybezak(without the -c switch it won't work)01:10
kentzabulus, close one of them, and then save the session (logout and click on save session)  (have no other programs running that you dont want to run next time.. )01:10
johnnybezakwoah01:10
johnnybezakthats wrong01:10
Xenguyplex0r: on the command line01:10
delltony its suppose to be for the panel01:10
johnnybezakit will work it will just keep going indefinetly01:10
plex0ri can ping the network01:10
zabulusah k thx kent!01:10
delltonyaccording to kdelook.org01:10
NeoCicakplex0r: then chances is that your gateway & dns are wrong01:11
johnnybezakcan you ping google or something like that01:11
delltonyits suppose to make the panel different but anyway :(01:11
plex0rwait01:11
plex0r#wiat01:11
=== xshui [dcampbell@d142-59-173-225.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu
Quest-MasterAnybody here use C# and Mono?01:11
delltonyRiddell, this is what i'm shooting for http://kdelook.org/content/show.php?content=1822301:12
xshuiI've played with it a TINY bit01:12
plex0rit says 'from <ip> icmp_seq=(upward counting numbers) Destination Host Unrechable...is what its saying after i pinged01:12
techn9nei tried and got frusturated w/ it and went back to windows01:12
NeoCicakplex0r: then you can't ping. it's unsuccessful01:12
xshuitechn9ne: what'd you get frustrated with?01:12
NeoCicakplex0r: maybe your ip address & subnet mask are wrong?01:12
techn9nemono01:12
techn9nei had to develop a C# app for someone01:12
techn9neso i went back to just doing it on windows01:12
xshuino, but I mean why was it frustrating?01:12
techn9nei couldnt make it work01:13
techn9neerrors01:13
Quest-MasterAck01:13
techn9newent to compile just sat there01:13
Quest-MasterI can't stand Windows at all anymore01:13
plex0rhow do i change the subnet?01:13
plex0ror edit or look for that matter01:13
plex0rsorry for being uber newbish01:13
johnnybezakplex0r: don't worry about it01:13
NeoCicakplex0r:  go to system -> administration -> network01:13
johnnybezaknetwork problems are a pain in the arse01:13
=== PacoBCN [~PacoBCN@62-15-248-28.inversas.jazztel.es] has joined #ubuntu
techn9nei had windows.... only time i use it is to develop .net stuff and msn messenger01:14
techn9nehate windows01:14
NeoCicakplex0r: (if you are using hoary) :P ... try to find something similar up there in the manu01:14
NeoCicakplex0r: menu01:14
Quest-Masterdelltony: That Lipstik theme is sexy.01:14
xshuiyeah, I try to avoid windows if I can...01:14
=== zabulus [~zabulus@dD5771462.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu
xshuibut I have use it for work01:14
xshuigotta eat01:14
xshuilol01:14
zabulusk thx kent it works!01:14
NeoCicakplex0r: we all started as newbie :)01:14
johnnybezaktechn9ne: you can use linux for both of those things anyway :)01:15
delltonyyeah if i could use it01:15
=== xshui [dcampbell@d142-59-173-225.abhsia.telus.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
techn9nejohnnybezak: you cant use webcam w/ gaim01:15
=== Quazion [~quazion@bsm-c-5628.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu
techn9nejohnnybezak: you cant test .net apps with windows w/o windows01:15
delltonyi can't figure out how to get it to work i dpkg -i'd the deb file01:15
delltonyand its there in styles01:16
plex0rdo i need a gateway address?01:16
delltonybut it doesn't change01:16
plex0rim configing manually01:16
johnnybezakplex0r: nope01:16
=== seb128 [~seb128@ANancy-151-1-24-41.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu
Quest-Masterdelltony: Ask in #kubuntu?01:16
johnnybezakunless you have a couple of subnets01:16
plex0rnothing is happening still01:16
johnnybezaktechn9ne: fair enough :)01:16
plex0rwe activated metbios on firewall01:16
NeoCicakplex0r: can you ping other computers now?01:16
plex0rnetbios*01:16
NeoCicakplex0r: umm..... that's beyond my expertise...01:17
plex0rno i cannot01:17
Ziggitywhat happens if I can't find a package   with synamptic!!01:17
Quest-Masterdelltony: Try compiling it?01:17
=== Quest-Master is going to try Kubuntu once on Hoary
NeoCicakplex0r: what if you type ifconfig?01:17
delltonyi'm running it on hoary and its great01:17
techn9nepersonally i hate .net i feel j2ee to be superior but i dont get to make descisions all the time01:17
delltonyi just need to learn it ;)01:17
Quest-MasterAck01:17
=== Quest-Master can't stand Java
techn9nei love java01:18
Quest-MasterIck.01:18
NeoCicakplex0r: you are connected on local network to connect to internet, right? (using router or similar thing)01:18
techn9neyou dont like programming it ??01:18
Quest-MasterNot at all.01:18
techn9newhy?01:18
Quest-MasterPython is the greatest programming/scripting language ever. ;d01:18
techn9nei always felt that the tools and community was awesome01:18
techn9neeclipse, ant01:18
plex0ryeah we got a router01:18
Quest-MasterJava eats way too much memory.01:18
plex0rive made all port exceptions etc. i need to01:18
Quest-MasterI mean, have you tried Azureus?01:19
NeoCicakplex0r: type ifconfig on command line.. see if your network card & ip configuration there are correct01:19
Quest-MasterIt uses 1-3GB of memory most of the time01:19
techn9neits not a native program01:19
=== StoffBox-Steve [~steve@pD9E576B0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu
Quest-MasterNeither is Python01:19
techn9nepython doesnt do what java can do01:19
techn9neyou're comparing apples to oranges01:19
=== bradb [~bradb@modemcable065.154-81-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu
ZiggityQuest-Master, What can you do with Python.? can you write desktop applications>?01:19
Quest-MasterUh, yes you can.01:19
Quest-MasterEver heard of wxPython or PyGTK?01:19
plex0ryeah tis all correct01:19
Ziggitydo you have examples of 'commercial' stuff done with it?01:20
plex0ri dont think samba is set up01:20
Quest-MasterGoogle? ;)01:20
ompaulZiggity, zope and friends01:20
brandon_niemczyksince when did commercial stuff matter anyways?01:20
johnnybezakplex0r: is it installed?01:20
NeoCicakplex0r: umm. samba does not have to do with being able to connect to the network... it's only for the linux & windows connectivity01:20
Quest-MasterZope as well.01:20
=== BiteMeBill [~antiM$@oh-67-77-123-4.dyn.sprint-hsd.net] has joined #ubuntu
brandon_niemczykespecially in a Linux channel01:20
=== delltony [~delltony@c-24-99-11-118.atl.client2.attbi.com] has joined #ubuntu
plex0rthis is connecting to a windows lan lol01:20
Quest-Masterbrandon_niemczyk: I guess Ziggity cares about it. :P01:20
Quest-MasterPython is pure open-source anyhow.01:20
brandon_niemczykheh01:20
Quest-MasterMost Linux users prefer it over Java.01:21
brandon_niemczykyea, i know python is01:21
NeoCicakplex0r: but you can't even ping to other computers.. samba doesn't have to do with that.. i reckon01:21
Ziggitysorry-- I'm from a win background and can't figure out how people on who develop from a linux platform make a living??01:21
techn9neummmm im not gonna argue.... python is good java is good01:21
techn9nebut for diff. things01:21
brandon_niemczyki personally hate python, but i have respect for the philosiphy behind it01:21
Quest-MasterPlus, it's development time is much, much shorter than that of Java's.01:21
Quest-MasterMeh.01:21
ZiggityQuest-Master, I try and make a living from software development.01:21
Quest-MasterI know no one who has fully tried Python and hated it.01:21
techn9nepython you can make cross platform apps01:21
brandon_niemczykQuest-Master: meet brandon01:21
brandon_niemczykbrandon_niemczyk: meet Quest-Master01:22
plex0ri get aerros when trying to install saba01:22
brandon_niemczykQuest-Master: now you do ;)01:22
XenguyZiggity: there is room for both free and proprietary software me thinks01:22
plex0rdpkg error01:22
plex0rerroor trying to write01:22
plex0retc..01:22
Quest-MasterZiggity: You can still make a living from using free software.01:22
techn9nesometimes01:22
XenguyZiggity: and yes, what Quest-Master said01:22
Quest-MasterZiggity: Lots of companies require coders who are on-call and can code custom software for their needs.01:23
=== netjoined: irc.freenode.net -> benford.freenode.net
=== zabulus [~zabulus@dD5771462.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu
=== ermo [~ermo@3E6B20D4.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #ubuntu
=== Riddell [jr@jriddell.kde] has joined #ubuntu
=== sjoerd [sjoerd@80.126.201.244] has joined #ubuntu
Quest-MasterZiggity: Many of these companies could possibly require you to use Python and/or run on Linux.01:23
ZiggityXenguy, : but If wanted to open a startup developing bespoke software for others ( businesses ) -- whats the business model?01:23
Quest-MasterZiggity: Like Google. ;)01:23
XenguyQuest-Master: much of our departments systems are coded in-house01:23
techn9neppl should use whatever fits their need best01:23
Quest-MasterXenguy: Exactly. You see my point. :)01:23
techn9nejava, python, c++, .net01:23
=== sjoerd [sjoerd@simons.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu
techn9nediff ppl/organizations have diff. requirements01:23
NeoCicakplex0r: hmm.... wait... not being able to ping to other computers does not necessarily mean your computer is not connected to the network.. i remember that i can't ping to my win xp computer coz it has some weird configuration that comes with it when i bought the computer01:24
NeoCicakplex0r: do you have non-windows machine?01:24
XenguyZiggity: the business model is definitely changing -- people are *not* going to pay for all software anymore.  Those days are gone IMO01:24
techn9nethe one shoe fits all is the microsoft way01:24
ZiggityQuest-Master, : could you explain the  Like Google?01:24
NeoCicakplex0r: or have you tried pinging www.yahoo.com or something like that?01:24
plex0rim stting next to two windows laptopos01:24
plex0rand a nix machine01:24
NeoCicakis that nix machine connected to network?01:25
ZiggityXenguy, Then how does one make money from it.. By money I mean a profitable business.01:25
plex0ron router it says its on01:25
plex0rbut 'inactive'01:25
plex0rits assigned ip and subnet01:25
Ziggityback in a minute01:25
NeoCicakcan you connect to internet using that nix machine?01:25
plex0rit says 'ping: unknown host www.google.com'01:25
plex0rno i cannot01:25
XenguyZiggity: you need to seek a niche, a specialized software product where there is no free software that can do the same job...01:26
NeoCicakhmmmm..........01:26
kentZiggity, you can probably make monny doing support,  /me thinks..01:26
brandon_niemczykZiggity: your buisness model depends on your capabilities and what you can do01:26
NeoCicakyou are familiar with ip addressing, yes?01:26
XenguyZiggity: at the same time, you look to providing programming *service*, instead of just trying to sell/clone your code for profit01:26
brandon_niemczykunfortunatly your right that an OSS solution is not _always_ going to be profitable, but there are many many places where it is01:26
NeoCicaktell me the ip address of the computer you are using now & one other windows machine that's connected to internet01:26
brandon_niemczykif you use a little ingenuity01:26
plex0rright01:27
plex0rip adress of this windows ysstem01:27
plex0r192.168.1.201:27
plex0rip address of nix01:27
XenguyZiggity: but honestly I don't really think there is a problem because free software gives everyone (including you :-) the tools to program stuff for people who will pay you to do it...01:27
plex0r192.168.1.301:27
=== PacoBCN [~PacoBCN@62-15-248-28.inversas.jazztel.es] has joined #ubuntu
NeoCicakhmm should be ok....01:27
brandon_niemczykplex0r: and can you ping the unix box by ip address?01:27
NeoCicakweird....01:27
plex0rno i cannot01:27
=== PacoBCN [~PacoBCN@62-15-248-28.inversas.jazztel.es] has joined #ubuntu
brandon_niemczykplex0r: are you pinging FROM windows or linux?01:28
plex0ri did both01:28
plex0rboth do not work01:28
NeoCicakis the cable connected ?? sounds like dumb question.. but believe me, this happens sometimes01:28
XenguyZiggity: I am a firm supporter of free software BTW -- people should not have to be ripped off by some foreign (to me) wannabee monopoly corporation just to check their email ;-)01:28
kenthaha, after some seconds i even managed to see the Ubuntu logo on the March ubuntu wallpaper ;)01:28
NeoCicakis the cable working01:28
plex0rthe cable is working01:28
brandon_niemczykplex0r: rafb.net/paste the output of 'ipconfig /all' on the windows box, and 'ifconfig' on the nix box01:28
NeoCicakdoes it have any problem? cable defects.. etc01:28
tgaXenguy: would you rather be robbed by a domestic monopoly?01:28
plex0ru want me to ipconfig01:29
plex0rand release on windows?01:29
plex0rand then ifconfig on nix01:29
=== mvo [~egon@ip181.135.1511I-CUD12K-01.ish.de] has joined #ubuntu
brandon_niemczykplex0r: not release... just post the output of 'ipconfig /all' in a DOS prompt, and ifconfig on nix, but nopaste it, don't flood here01:29
brandon_niemczykhttp://rafb.net/paste01:29
Xenguytga: do you think that is my point? =)01:29
plex0rhow can i paste from nix sysmtem01:30
plex0rwhen the nix system isnt online01:30
tgaI'm not sure what your point is01:30
BiteMeBillplex0r: I don't mean to but in but is the information close to the same between ipconfig and ifconfig?01:30
=== Andre [~andre_col@200.138.133.102] has joined #ubuntu
johnnybezakplex0r: hehehe01:30
plex0r:p01:30
brandon_niemczykplex0r: good point ;P01:30
tgaplex0r: 1. turn nix system on 2. copy 3. ??? 4. paste01:30
brandon_niemczyksorry :(01:30
Xenguytga: re-read what I typed -- it was very clear :-)01:30
plex0rnot on internet01:30
=== jjx [~J@addr-82-128-204-120.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu
plex0ror network tga01:30
johnnybezak5: Profit!01:30
brandon_niemczykplex0r: what does ifconfig say your ip and subnet is in linux?01:30
plex0rthe subnets need to be the same>01:30
brandon_niemczykand what about 'route' ?01:31
plex0rip is 168.192.1.301:31
plex0rsubnet= 255.255.0.001:31
=== Lemonzest [~Lemonzest@cpc1-nott4-3-0-cust27.nott.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu
plex0rany windows subnet =255.255.255.001:31
NeoCicakah01:31
brandon_niemczykare you sure that shouldn't be 255.255.255.001:31
NeoCicaktry using same subnet01:31
brandon_niemczyk?01:31
brandon_niemczykyea01:31
brandon_niemczykuse the same subnet01:31
=== smurfslay [smurfslaye@itchy.e-dividual.de] has joined #ubuntu
plex0rdazed says he thinks we were on the same subnet01:32
plex0rbut i dont think i do01:32
NeoCicakchange to 255.255.255.001:32
uMkuluNeoCicak: that doesn't look right01:32
NeoCicakfor all01:32
brandon_niemczykplex0r: if one is 255.255.255.0 and the other is 255.255.0.0, you are NOT on the same subnet01:32
NeoCicakuMkulu: what doesn't look right??01:32
uMkuluno idea, neocicak01:32
brandon_niemczykyou need to set the nix box to 255.255.255.001:32
NeoCicakumkulu: hmm... which one of my post are you replying to??01:33
=== zbrown is now known as suifur
uMkuluno idea, neocicak01:33
brandon_niemczykplex0r: do you have a router or something that your using for connection sharing?01:33
Ziggityok. back01:33
BiteMeBillNeoCicak: uMkulu is a bot from what I was told.01:33
plex0ryeah i already got computers saharing internet01:33
NeoCicakhahahhaha01:33
NeoCicakthx bitemebill01:33
brandon_niemczykplex0r: cause if your using a static ip for your nix box, you need to set the default route to01:33
Ziggitybrandon_niemczyk, which instinces is it profitable01:33
brandon_niemczykfirst fix the subnet though01:33
brandon_niemczykZiggity: when your writing custom software for a client for instance01:34
BiteMeBillit got me earlier with same comments.01:34
=== sander__ [~sander@pool-151-202-14-28.ny325.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu
NeoCicakhahahhaa01:34
brandon_niemczykyou retain the (C), and then release it at a later date under the GPL01:34
NeoCicakok ok...01:34
brandon_niemczykor at least parts of it01:34
Quaruptsomone build me a working gaim-vv and i will give them 200 Gmail invites01:34
brandon_niemczykand wala, you didn't lose any money01:34
brandon_niemczykand contributed back to the community that gives you so many good tools01:34
NeoCicakplex0r: so everything is ok now?01:34
plex0ri dont know01:35
plex0rresetting nix system01:35
NeoCicakoh ok..01:35
brandon_niemczykwhy?01:35
brandon_niemczykyou don't need to reboot01:35
brandon_niemczykthis isn't windows ;)01:35
=== dazed_ [~dazed@adsl-219-156-58.aep.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu
plex0rdazed thinks lan card wasdnt in01:35
plex0rwe're on01:35
plex0rsexy01:35
dazed_its up01:35
brandon_niemczykcool01:35
dazed_yay!01:35
NeoCicakhmmm.. as far as i remember. you don't need to reboot on windows too if you r just changing the ip address :)01:35
NeoCicakkewl01:36
NeoCicakphew01:36
dazed_it worked at first01:36
brandon_niemczykNeoCicak: probably true, but oh well :)01:36
dazed_then my lan card came unplugged it stopped01:36
dazed_i rebooted01:36
dazed_it works01:36
NeoCicakgood01:36
neighborleethere is new nvidia but its not in ubuntu yet..I tried to contact maintainer from his email address ( as noted in app > properties) from synatpic but its bouncing back..who should I contact ?01:36
NeoCicaki think daniels have lots of thing to do with graphics in ubuntu... i might be wrong01:37
neighborleek01:37
Ziggitybrandon_niemczyk, But isn't that doing the client down??01:37
plex0rthanks guys01:37
plex0r:)01:37
brandon_niemczykZiggity: not in the least01:38
NeoCicakno problemo01:38
brandon_niemczykif you own the copyright, what you do with it at a later date is none of their concern01:38
brandon_niemczyki mean, i wouldn't do it 3 days later or anything01:38
brandon_niemczykwait a couple months01:38
Ziggitybtw did anyone successfull install MonoDevelop on Ubuntu Warty???01:38
brandon_niemczykZiggity: another place where OSS can be profitable is in libraries that you release under the GPL, and then offer commercial licenses for seperatly01:38
dazed_i just unpackaged the sambaclient01:38
dazed_how do i use it?01:38
brandon_niemczykbut you have to be careful with that01:38
dazed_brb01:39
brandon_niemczykyou cannot accept patches for it01:39
=== dazed_ [~dazed@adsl-219-156-58.aep.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu
Quarupthow well is alien supported with Ubuntu01:39
brandon_niemczykbecause those people providing them will expect the code to be GPL'd01:39
=== StoffBox-Steve [~steve@pD9E576B0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu
Ziggitybrandon_niemczyk, You taking a clients idea -- developing a solution for him/her -- then when paid releasing to oss??01:39
dazed_...once i unpackage sambaclient but i can run it in terminal via 'sambaclient'01:39
lupusBEnew drivers?01:39
Ziggitybrandon_niemczyk, how do you mean commercial lic for seperatly??01:39
brandon_niemczykZiggity: eh... like MySQL does01:40
lupusBE6629 is in hoary01:40
ZiggityOh!..01:40
brandon_niemczykyou can get MySQL under the GPL, but if you don't want it under the GPL then you have to pay $$$01:40
=== TJPAas [JpkEoOH@resnet158-137.medford.tufts.edu] has joined #ubuntu
lupusBEisn't that the latest?01:40
brandon_niemczykZiggity: and 99% of clients couldn't care less what you do with the code afterwards as long as they have a working solution ;)01:40
brandon_niemczyktrust me, i know01:41
Ziggitybrandon_niemczyk, so why would someone want to pay $$$ for something they can get for free!01:41
Ziggitybrandon_niemczyk, what do you do??01:41
brandon_niemczykZiggity: i own a custom programming buisness ;)01:41
dazed_...once i unpackage sambaclient but i can run it in terminal via 'sambaclient'01:42
brandon_niemczykZiggity: and yes, it is profitable01:42
StoffBox-SteveZiggity, thats easy .. why buy think you dont need ? ... we all what money to life :D01:42
brandon_niemczykZiggity: and no my clients do not hate me01:42
Ziggityhummm.,,, could you offer business advice to someone ( me :) ) looking to follow in your footsteps?01:42
brandon_niemczykin fact i'm quite good with my clients01:42
brandon_niemczykZiggity: heh, just write decent code for clients, and it will all come together01:43
brandon_niemczykthere is plenty of room for supporting OSS if you want to (as i do)01:43
Ziggitybrandon_niemczyk, what technologies.. and how did you decide on them>?01:43
brandon_niemczykuh... what do you mean?01:44
brandon_niemczykZiggity: it depends on the client and what they need01:44
=== kent [~kent@c83-249-61-222.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu
Ziggitydo you have a prefered prog. language.??01:44
brandon_niemczykyea, whatever works for the job01:44
brandon_niemczykbut, i am most comfortable with C01:44
brandon_niemczykand what you are comfortable with _does_ mean something01:45
=== joaocruz [~joao@ip68-0-220-224.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu
brandon_niemczykfor instance, i don't like python because the "block code by spacing" kills me01:45
brandon_niemczyka lot of (shitty) email clients will replace tabs with spaces for instance01:46
brandon_niemczykso it makes passing patches around a bitch01:46
=== Pyralis [~Cadilles@c-24-17-248-142.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
Ziggitybrandon_niemczyk, do u use Open source 'stuff'01:46
brandon_niemczykZiggity: almost exclusivly01:46
Ziggityas a side Item... ANYone.. what happens if Synaptic can't find a package???01:47
brandon_niemczyki own a license to VS.NET and VB6, but almost never actually use them01:47
Ziggityhmmm vb6.,, there where I'm from..01:47
brandon_niemczykZiggity: there is no compiler suite better then gcc01:47
=== nasdaq|away [~sdfsdfs@tkp-ip-nas-1-p197.telkom-ipnet.co.za] has joined #ubuntu
speellol vb .. people actually baught that crap?01:47
brandon_niemczykgcc+libtool+automake+(cygwin on windows and mingw) == perfect01:48
ZiggityI've moved to c# and a little java01:48
ZiggityI'm hoping to get the c01:48
brandon_niemczykspeel: nothing beats it's RAD capabilities, unfortunatly it's doze only so it's still useless ;)01:48
=== jba [~SecretSqu@c211-30-145-155.blktn3.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
Ziggitybrandon_niemczyk,  True its RAD is great, unfortunitly it spoils you as a developer and moving to other langs become more of a learning curve,,01:49
=== ^majik^ [~majik@68.119.96.36] has joined #Ubuntu
Ziggityyou kinda go.. WHAT!! 20 lines of code to make a window!!01:50
brandon_niemczykZiggity: well, i'm just now learning VB, until recently i've had almost exclusivly unix (mostly solaris and linux) work01:50
=== hawke [~hawke@68.78.212.97] has joined #ubuntu
brandon_niemczykbrb - smoke01:50
=== oly [~oly@host81-129-52-203.range81-129.btcentralplus.com] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
Ziggitylet me know if you need any help :->01:50
Ziggityis that vb6 or vb.net?? and may I ask why your learning it?01:51
Ziggityok.. how do I include Hoary into my warty syanptic??01:51
=== Quarupt [~Quarupt@c-67-170-1-214.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
speelZiggity: the packages are most likley unstable01:52
brandon_niemczykback01:53
brandon_niemczykZiggity: i'm learning it because i'm maintaining some code i didn't write for a client01:53
Ziggityspeel, but what else can I do -=-- I can't seem to install MonoDevelop on Warty01:53
brandon_niemczykand it's vb601:53
=== Brent [~fp@callisto.localaccess.com] has joined #ubuntu
Ziggitybrandon_niemczyk maybe I can subcontract that off you :))01:54
=== RotundRanter [~steve@CPE-70-92-28-75.mn.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
Quaruptif i alien an file.rpm -r  where does the deb save to?01:54
brandon_niemczykZiggity: hehe, no01:54
LinuxJonesZiggity, why would you want to install mono ?01:54
brandon_niemczyksorry :)01:54
brandon_niemczyki need the money01:54
brandon_niemczykas usual01:54
Ziggityheehh01:55
Ziggitysee that's why your clients like you... you honest01:55
ZiggityLinuxJones, cos I want to develop in c01:55
brandon_niemczykthe only thing i hire out atm is graphics work for websites01:55
ZiggityLinuxJones, cos I want to develop in c# !01:55
=== Brent [~fp@callisto.localaccess.com] has joined #ubuntu
brandon_niemczykbecause i'm "visually challenged" :)01:56
brandon_niemczykso if i don't hire out the gfx work, the site looks like shit01:56
Ziggitybrandon_niemczyk, hee;01:56
=== joaocruz [~joao@ip68-0-220-224.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== usual [~colin@cpe-24-194-193-234.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
Ziggitybrandon_niemczyk, what happens when Synaptic cant find a package???01:57
brandon_niemczyki don't use synaptic01:57
brandon_niemczykso ask someone else ;)01:57
Ziggitybrandon_niemczyk, What lang do you do the sites in?01:57
brandon_niemczykapt-cache and apt-get are good enough for me01:57
brandon_niemczykZiggity: usually php/mysql01:58
brandon_niemczykbut i've done some jsp stuff to01:58
Ziggitybrandon_niemczyk, so what happens if apt-... don't find it?01:58
brandon_niemczykthen you find a sources entry that has it, or you install it by compiling01:58
brandon_niemczykdo you have the universal stuff uncommented in your /etc/apt/sources.list ?01:59
Ziggityboooohoooo.. you were not paying attention.. I'm from VB (windows) land...01:59
Ziggityyes01:59
=== joaocruz [~joao@ip68-0-220-224.ri.ri.cox.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
LinuxJonesZiggity, why not develop in windows ?02:00
brandon_niemczykZiggity: yea... vmware does wonders02:00
brandon_niemczykZiggity: and i've attempted to use monodevelop on debian, and... it's buggy as hell02:00
Quaruptanyone use ALIEN?02:00
brandon_niemczykQuarupt: on debian i have02:00
ZiggityLinuxJones, cos I WANT to change os platforms02:00
Ziggitybrandon_niemczyk, vmware?? - whats that02:01
Quaruptim trying to get a deb from a RPM it ran okay, I did alien -r ./file.rpm02:01
Quaruptthen it gave me another promy02:01
Quaruptbut i dont see a deb anywhere02:01
LinuxJonesZiggity, mono is a big rat trap waiting to snap as far as I am concerned02:01
=== Brent [~fp@callisto.localaccess.com] has joined #ubuntu
brandon_niemczykZiggity: i think your going to find mono lacking if you are used to .NET on M$, your better off switching to tools that are well supported on non-M$ platforms02:02
=== BitShifter [~Bit@31.226.165.24.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
BitShifterhi i'm trying to install my wireless networking02:02
=== kamarudin [~kamarudin@137.44.197.32] has joined #ubuntu
=== joaocruz [~joao@ip68-0-220-224.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== mindphasr [~mind@68.29.144.71] has joined #ubuntu
BitShifteri need to use the ndiswrapper02:02
BitShifterhow do i install this?02:02
ZiggityLinuxJones, what would you suggest?02:02
BitShifterapt-get install ndiswrapper complains about package not being found/02:02
brandon_niemczykZiggity: vmware isn't free (as in freedom) but you can get a monthly trial for it, and with it you can run windows inside linux02:02
BitShifterinfact, i can't even apt-get anything02:03
BitShifterit can't find any packages at all02:03
BitShifternot even the kernel sources02:03
brandon_niemczykZiggity: C02:03
Ziggitybrandon_niemczyk, what tools02:03
brandon_niemczykZiggity: gcc and friends for one02:03
BitShifterhello02:03
=== WildRabbit [~WildRabbi@adsl7-69.simnet.is] has joined #ubuntu
LinuxJonesZiggity, switch to python or stick with C (++) :D02:04
Ziggityok... but coming from vb and c# on windows I need an IDE.. with code complete ( I'm a whimp )02:04
brandon_niemczykboth emacs and vim have code completion02:04
brandon_niemczykyou just need to learn the keys to do it ;)02:04
brandon_niemczykthere are several IDE's available on linux02:04
brandon_niemczykbut i don't use them, so i can't give you any suggestions02:05
usualwhat could a possible reason for a laggy desktop be in ubuntu hoary?02:05
LinuxJonesZiggity, if you really want to develop with c# you can put up with windows shortcomings :)02:05
QuaruptISnt alien supposed to create a deb?02:05
Quarupti cant find anything after i ran it on the rpm02:05
usualQuarupt, don't bother with alien02:06
=== johnwl is now known as johnwlittle
=== poxymo1 [~test@dsl-082-082-095-137.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu
usualQuarupt, build a deb if anything02:06
brandon_niemczykQuarupt: how did you run it again?02:06
ZiggityLinuxJones, could you suggest an IDE for c/c++ on  linux?02:06
usualajunta02:06
=== joeblow1234 [~chatzilla@S0106000c6ec62859.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu
usuali think02:06
brandon_niemczykQuarupt: you said you did 'alien -r some.rpm', that == wrong... -r means to rpm02:06
=== joaocruz [~joao@ip68-0-220-224.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu
Quaruptalien -r file.rpm02:06
Quaruptlike it said on the article02:06
brandon_niemczykQuarupt: read my above statement02:06
usualQuarupt, what are you trying to get a deb of?02:06
Ziggityback in a minute .. i gotta put the washing on..02:06
Quaruptman if i could build a deb i could probably just compile this stupid program02:07
brandon_niemczykQuarupt: try losing the -r, or better yet, switching it to -d02:07
joeblow1234Quarupt: the easiest way to do it is like this    alien --to-deb filename.rpm02:07
Quaruptok02:07
brandon_niemczyk-d and --to-deb are the same thing02:07
Quaruptwell its doing something with no verbose02:07
Quaruptits a rpm for gaim-vv i fond02:08
LinuxJonesZiggity, although I don't really like kde anymore kdevelop has won tons of awards for dev tools. There is also glade/anjuta.02:08
usualZiggity, http://www.anjuta.org/anjuta.php?page=screenshots02:08
=== WildRabbit [~WildRabbi@adsl7-69.simnet.is] has joined #ubuntu
usualgaim-vv?02:08
Quaruptya02:08
=== joaocruz [~joao@ip68-0-220-224.ri.ri.cox.net] has left #ubuntu []
usualwhat is that02:08
Quaruptcause it was really hard to build02:08
Quaruptumm check SF02:08
joeblow1234usual: it is a fork of gaim that supports video and audio chat better02:09
Quaruptanyways to install a deb manually i just typr dpkg -install ./package.de?02:09
Xirdnehhi there, i have just install gaim 1.1.4, but i uninstalled the old gaim and now the icon of gaim in Aplications>Internet is gone, i made a locate gaim and it say gaim is under /usr/lib but i cant find it to add ti, any ideas?02:09
usualjoeblow1234, for use with like yahoo? or just it's own02:09
joeblow1234Quarupt: nope, dpkg -i package.deb02:09
Quaruptor dpkg -i pack.deb?02:09
Quaruptlol02:09
Quaruptok02:09
joeblow1234usual: i think it is for all the protocols supported by gaim (msn, aim, yahoo, etc.)02:09
usualk02:10
joeblow1234usual: gaim-vv.sourceforge.net02:10
Quaruptholy crap it worked02:10
=== ivo [~ivo@cc201144-a.hnglo1.ov.home.nl] has joined #ubuntu
ZiggityLinuxJones, I'm waiting for anjuta 202:10
Quaruptlets see if it will actually start02:10
virtualdbitlebee is the shit02:10
ivohello guys02:10
virtualdbiltbee02:10
virtualdbleh02:10
usualhttp://people.debian.org/~smimram/debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/02:10
usualgaim-vv debs02:10
ivowhop can help me with an error02:10
Quaruptlol02:11
Quaruptthey dont work02:11
ivowhop can help me with an error02:11
joeblow1234Quarupt: I've converted the RPM packages for Limewire before and they work normally. I had to do this cause Limewire quit shipping that nice Java installer they had02:11
usualQuarupt, did you see what I posted02:11
tgalo Quarupt, how's it going?02:11
ivowhop can help me with an error02:12
=== andy__ [~andy@ppp225-228.lns1.bne1.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu
ivowho can help me with an error02:12
usualgaim-vv_0.79.3-0_i386.deb               21-Jan-2005 14:29   3.0M02:12
tgaivo: Bad command or file name02:12
scizzogood night02:12
Quarupti tried allready not for Ubuntugood tga02:12
ivowho can help me with an error, when I try to un install openssh-server with apt-get02:12
=== poxymo1 is now known as poxymox
ivo/etc/init.d/ssh: line 49: log_begin_msg: command not found02:12
ivoinvoke-rc.d: initscript ssh, action "stop" failed.02:12
ivodpkg: error processing openssh-server (--remove):02:12
ivo subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 12702:12
ivoE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)02:13
andy__g'day, was wondering if anyone here had a thinkpad t21 or close model... and has the mouse working the same way as windows02:13
joeblow1234andy__: what is the mouse not doing?02:14
Ziggityandy__, I gots a laptop with NO double click on the pad ..02:14
andy__whoops, sorry, not mouse, 'nipple' ... inbuilt thing02:14
ivowho can help me with an error, when I try to un install openssh-server with apt-get02:14
joeblow1234andy__: well what is it doing differently than windows?02:14
ivo/etc/init.d/ssh: line 49: log_begin_msg: command not found02:15
andy__in windows, you hold onto a third button, then move the mouse up and down to scroll02:15
ivoinvoke-rc.d: initscript ssh, action "stop" failed.02:15
ivodpkg: error processing openssh-server (--remove):02:15
ivo subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 12702:15
ivoE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)02:15
=== majskulan [~dcooper@pool-151-199-249-175.phil.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu
joeblow1234andy__: have you tried google? it is the best when u have a hardware specific question02:15
=== sofaSpud [~jkarns@200.119.47.32] has joined #ubuntu
kentis there some problems with gnome-cd in Hoary? it seems to not want to play CDs if I start it manually :(  The device is detected correctly in the preferences for gnome-cd, it just says something about bad device when i start it.02:15
QuaruptOkay so the deb generated by the rpm worked okay, but i cant fine the bin??? did it just iverwrite my current gaim?02:16
andy__have been hunting google since i installed about a fortnight ago02:16
usualIs there a known issue with xorg in hoary? I have a laggy desktop....I don't get it02:16
joeblow1234Quarupt: use the command updatedb and then locate gaim-vv02:16
andy__today i found this, but i dont know what to do with it, or if it'll work:  http://stephen.evanchik.com/index.cgi/index.html02:16
andy__says its for linux02:17
joeblow1234ubuntu uses the 2.6.8 kernel, not 2.6.10 or 2.6.1102:17
joeblow1234unless ur on hoary, not sure which one that uses02:17
usual2.6.1002:18
usualbut 11 is on the way02:18
andy__oh, bugger02:18
joeblow1234usual: is 2.6.11.1 going to be the last? on lwn.net it said that 2.6.11.1 was released as a security and bug fix02:18
=== BROKEN_LADDER [~BROKEN@h-67-101-210-212.snfccasy.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #UBUNTU
=== Levander [~cponder@user-11208c5.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu
Quaruptjoeblow1234, it didnt find and bins :()02:19
usualjoeblow1234, 2.6.11 includes some breakthrough changes I read02:19
Quarupthrm02:20
joeblow1234i just checked www.linuxhq.com and it doesnt include 2.6.11.1....weird02:20
=== Yobui [~vinko@cpattillo.manquehue.net] has joined #ubuntu
Yobuihi02:21
usual"Highlights include Infiniband support, four level page tables, in-node extended attributes for better samba performance, new pipe implementation , reduced latency and big kernel semaphore among several other minor changes."02:21
=== tinamoo [it@24-90-221-156.nyc.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
usualI wish someone could help me with my laggy desktop02:22
Yobuii need to know how do I configure KDE as a default desktop manager02:22
joeblow1234usual: what r ur specs?02:22
Yobuii already downloaded it and installed it02:22
=== Deviant_ [~chatzilla@edtn000849.hs.telusplanet.net] has joined #ubuntu
joeblow1234Yobui: is it listed under sessions in gdm?02:22
Quaruptjoeblow1234, howcome it didnt find any bins?02:22
=== majskulan [~dcooper@pool-151-199-249-175.phil.east.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu []
usualjoeblow1234, it's not a hardware issue, it's just recently, no other dists do it, even ubuntu warty02:22
RiddellYobui: which package did you install?02:23
joeblow1234Quarupt: maybe it didnt convert properly. you can install rpm from synaptic. try installing the rpm itself and see what happens02:23
Ziggityusual what version you on?02:23
Yobuihow can i check that? (i killed the server and run it using startx from a console so i don't see the gdm)02:23
usualZiggity, hoary02:23
Quaruptyou can install rpm from synaptic?02:23
Quarupthow?02:23
Yobuii did apt-get install kde02:23
Yobuii have universe02:23
usualwhy on god's green earth would you install rpm's in ubuntu02:23
joeblow1234Quarupt: apt-get install rpm02:23
Yobuishould i restart and check the gdm?02:23
tinamooi upgraded my graphic card to geforce 6800 and installed a fresh ubuntu, but the x server crashes no matter what i do. any suggestion?02:23
joeblow1234and then you will have the rpm command available02:23
Yobuior can i start gdm without restarting02:24
scorpixZiggity: gdm is for login, and you are already login02:24
joeblow1234Quarupt: i meant u could install the rpm package manager through synaptic02:24
=== Deviant_ is now known as Deviant
Quaruptoh02:24
Ziggityscorpix, Huh!!!... what are you talking about02:24
=== Deviant is now known as _Dev
joeblow1234usual: to check and see if it works better than the converted deb02:24
=== _Dev is now known as _dev_
=== rcchan [~rcchan@netblock-66-245-251-214.dslextreme.com] has joined #ubuntu
Quaruptit was allready installed02:24
Quarupthow to use it?02:24
usualjoeblow1234, he should build his own deb or just install it from source02:25
usualOR02:25
usualuse the debs i pointed him to02:25
usualthey should work02:25
scorpixs/ Ziggity / Yobui  :)02:25
joeblow1234Quarupt: rpm -Uvh package.rpm02:25
Quaruptrpm -i pack.rpm?02:25
Quaruptok02:25
Yobuiyeah02:25
Ziggityusual, I had issues with hoary.. things like no drag on the title bar and yes.. a LOT slower than warty02:25
Yobuithat's the problem...02:25
Yobuii should restart io guess then02:25
ZiggityI thinks there still lots of debug code in there/02:25
usualZiggity, it's weird, after certain upgrades ...i don't get it02:25
Quaruptlol02:25
=== IvyCQHome [~Sir@c906a0a6.virtua.com.br] has joined #ubuntu
Quaruptit says02:26
Quaruptrpm: To install rpm packages on Debian systems, use alien. See README.Debian.02:26
Quarupterror: cannot open Packages index using db3 - No such file or directory (2)02:26
Quarupterror: cannot open Packages database in /var/lib/rpm02:26
Quaruptlol02:26
Yobuii did an upgrade to hoary and quickly gone back to warty :)02:26
usualQuarupt, did you try the debs I pointed you too??02:26
Quaruptguess im goin in circles?02:26
Quaruptusual ya02:26
joeblow1234usual: if im not mistaken hoary is still in beta02:26
Ziggityusual, did you narrow which upgrades?02:26
usualQuarupt, what happened02:26
Quarupti tried em again02:26
Quaruptthere broken02:26
Quarupterrors after about 2mili seconds02:26
usualwhat errors02:26
joeblow1234Quarupt: weird, i thought u could install rpms with the rpm command. (I've never had to try...the only rpm i have is limewire, which converts fine with alien)02:27
Quarupti dunno02:27
usualjoeblow1234, yeah it's not stable yet02:27
=== kurros [~wade@92-14.26-24.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== rcchan [~rcchan@netblock-66-245-251-214.dslextreme.com] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
ZiggityI think its still very stable and I think its only slated for release round sep/oct 200502:27
usualZiggity, nah, too much to pay attentiont oo02:27
joeblow1234usual: i meant to say alpha02:27
Quaruptalien made a deb, and the deb reported that it installed okay02:27
usualZiggity, yeah 6 month release cycle i think02:27
joeblow1234usual: as in not to be used if u need a stable desktop02:27
usualjoeblow1234, I don't need a stable desktop, but this lag is annoying02:27
YobuiZiggity: yeah, it doesn't crash, but when you need to compile things you start getting a mess with the libraries that are not updated yet02:28
=== danix [~daniela@BHE043212.res-com.wayinternet.com.br] has joined #ubuntu
usualusing alien to convert a rpm to a deb is just retarted02:28
usualimho02:28
Quaruptwonders what to do nect02:28
usualdo you know where that rpm placed stuff?02:28
usualQuarupt, compile it02:28
joeblow1234Ziggity: it is slated for release in april...not september02:28
=== mario [~mario@200.54.6.197] has joined #ubuntu
=== kurros [~wade@92-14.26-24.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
Quaruptno thats impossible02:28
usual?02:28
Quarupttry to, you have to hand configure about 10 depends first before ya can even build it02:28
Ziggityusual, I had the similar issues ( although It  did fix  my mouse pad problem ) so I went back to warty02:29
usualbs02:29
joeblow1234usual: the rpm didnt install any files on the system for him...it just didnt do anything02:29
QuaruptNo its not bs02:29
Ziggityjoeblow1234, : is it? sorry02:29
usualif I build that program i am gonna pick on you for a month02:29
Quaruptgoto sf.net/gaim-vv and read02:29
joeblow1234Ziggity: if it is too unstable...they will delay it probably thoughj02:29
joeblow1234*though02:29
Quaruptlook at all the depsnds you have to extract 1by1 and configure and compile 1 by 102:30
Yobuii'm now running KDE :)02:30
Quaruptusual, me and about 5 others have tried, its possible, bit personally id rather use that much time to build a kernel from source02:30
Yobuii have another question, though... I have a widescreen laptop02:30
joeblow1234Yobui: what is it like on ubuntu?02:30
Quarupts/source/scratch02:30
apokryphosjoeblow1234: kde? It's great.02:31
Yobuijoeblow1234: i've been running it for about 5 seconds, but so far has worked great :)02:31
Ziggityjoeblow1234, you're right -- for april .. http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HoaryHedgehog/view?searchterm=hoary%20release02:31
joeblow1234Yobui: lol, what i meant is, for instance, KDE was incredibly unstable for me on Fedora (another Gnome based distro). Just wondering if it is the same in Ubuntu02:31
Ziggityooohh. I'm hungry.. gonna rattle the pots be back in a minute..02:33
=== drspin [~cole@ip68-2-123-172.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #Ubuntu
apokryphosjoeblow1234: not at all; very stable here. Though, I didn't have any of those problems you speak of on Fedora.02:33
Yobuijoeblow1234: i've been trying the apps and they run great02:33
joeblow1234apokryphos: i probably messed something up in that case02:33
drspinI'm performing updates for Warty on my other system and it keeps saying "debconf: unable to initialize frontend: Gnome..."02:33
drspinthen it asks if libgnome2-perl is installed02:34
Quarupthows it going usual ?02:34
QuaruptLMAO02:34
drspin??02:34
usualQuarupt, I have to download things02:34
drspinI'm sorry - updates for Hoary02:34
Quaruptya02:34
Quaruptand its allready easier to use an rpm huh?02:34
usualno02:34
usualthats just retarted02:34
LinuxJonesdrspin, install that package adn it will propt you with a nice gui for re-configuring packages02:34
Quarupti think your being stubborn02:34
usualno02:34
usualit's a bad idea02:34
QuaruptHow many people in here have used the Limewire rpm and it woked FIME?02:35
=== jerry [~jerry@ppp-70-244-98-151.dsl.wchtks.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu
QuaruptFINE02:35
Quaruptusual, can ya make a deb after ya build it02:35
usualyes02:35
Quaruptone that actually woks?02:36
Quaruptcool02:36
usualif it compiles ok yes02:36
Yobuiwell, as i was saying, i have a widescreen laptop with native resolution 1280x768, i configured X to run this resolution and it does pretty fine. BUT, if I want to change the resolution to a 4:3 ratio (1024x768), which i need to run presentations, the screen gets "expanded" (i don't see the whole desktop in the screen) i have to move the mouse to the left and right to see the whole desktop, do you know what can i do to modify this behavior?02:36
usualI am building a linphone-im deb02:36
Quaruptincluding all the depends?02:36
Quaruptcool02:36
usual2 of the depends are in ubuntu already02:36
Quaruptcan you get em in one of the repositories?02:37
usualyeah02:37
Quaruptcool02:37
=== _4strO [~astro@AStrasbourg-251-1-51-23.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu
Quaruptlemme know when yur done02:37
LinuxJonesYobui, ctrl+alt+-02:37
Quaruptplz02:37
danixwhen gnome 2.10 will be release on hoary?02:37
_4strO( Operating System ) Linux Debian-3.1 Kernel: 2.6.10-4-386, GNU/Linux | Xorg: 6.8.2 | Desktop: Gnome v2.9.9 | IRC Client: X-Chat v.2.4.102:37
Quarupti heard soon02:37
YobuiLinuxJones yes, that's what i do to change the resolution, the problem occurs WHEN i change it from the native one to another one02:37
_4strOsoon soon :)02:38
_4strOhi all02:38
=== tritium [~rimbert@12-202-90-180.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu
danixhi02:38
uMkuluniihau, danix02:38
LinuxJonesYobui, ctrl+alt++ :D02:38
usualQuarupt, do you use hoary or warty02:38
danixuMkulu, what?02:38
uMkuludanix: i haven't a clue02:38
Quarupthoary02:38
YobuiLinuxJones--02:38
Yobui:P02:38
=== mystify [~alexander@cpe-24-30-155-63.san.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
johnnybezakhow many of you guys are using hoary? im updating at the moment and im s***ing myself :P02:39
mystifyhey does xmms work with video files?02:39
LinuxJonesYobui, can't you stay in 1020x764 ?02:39
apokryphosmystify: no02:39
LinuxJonesYobui, or whatever it is ?02:39
danixi use hoary..02:39
Ziggityafter you run make how do u run the application02:39
Quaruptusual, why are you on warty or something?02:39
YobuiI can, but i need to be able to change it to project the screen on the wall02:40
=== kerframil [~kerin@host81-129-158-75.range81-129.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu
Yobuiwith a projector, they only support 4:3 ratios02:40
=== Safari_Al [~tr@ppp51-83.lns1.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu
Yobuiusually02:40
LinuxJonesYobui, are you uding hoary ?02:40
Yobuiwarty02:40
=== lukewarm [~lukewarm@riggs.mgtn.dsl2.labyrinth.net] has joined #ubuntu
LinuxJonesgod02:40
Quarupti think we need #Ubuntu|Warty and #Ubuntu|Hoary02:41
LinuxJonesYobui, does it work if you go system>>preferences>> screen resolution and change it there ?02:41
andy__say i have button one, button two, and button three (no scroll wheel).  how would i go about writing a config entry (or something) to scroll whenever i hold on to button 3, and move the mouse up or down?02:42
johnnybezakZiggity: did you make install too?02:42
Ziggityjohnnybezak, no .. how?02:43
apokryphosQuarupt: No, they're not different distributions. Different versions of a distro.02:43
YobuiLinuxJones yes, you got it... they make a new easy way and break the old ways, lol :)02:43
usualQuarupt, see...live compile haha02:43
apokryphosQuarupt: plus, the warty one would be pretty empty :P02:43
LinuxJonesYobui, cool glad tohelp ;)02:43
usualQuarupt, http://transamrit.net/~usual/test.mpeg02:43
Yobuithanks LinuxJones ;)02:44
Quaruptapokryphos, thanks for stating the obvious, i know there not dirrent distro lol02:45
apokryphosalways a pleasure02:45
Quaruptcant stream02:45
Quaruptmy shit isnt set up right yet02:45
usualdon't need too02:45
usualk02:45
Quaruptgrr it just says no picture02:46
Quarupti dont think i installed my codecs right02:46
usualheh sounds like you need multimedia packages02:46
usualyeah02:46
=== The_Nalf [fabrice@AToulouse-251-1-34-221.w83-193.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu
=== poxymo1 [~test@dsl-213-023-153-054.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu
delltonyanyone here able to get the styles to change in kubuntu?02:46
Quarupti have mplayer and mozilla-mplayer and the oog one02:47
QuaruptOh wait now i see it02:47
usualI just have totem with gstreamer02:47
Quaruptjust took a while02:47
Quaruptis that a live stream of your console now, or just a recording?02:47
usuali just recorded it02:47
drspinLinux02:47
Quaruptlol02:48
drspinLinuxJones: thanks man!! how nice!02:48
Quaruptyour using flux?02:48
=== raydogg`` [~r@12-220-121-241.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu
usualno02:49
usualmetacity02:49
Quaruptoh02:49
raydogg``what does array 6 offer over array 5 ?02:49
Quaruptis it almost done?02:49
drspinSynaptic is so nice in Hoary02:49
drspin:)02:49
QuaruptHavent seen any updates today02:50
LinuxJonesdrspin, ;)02:50
Quaruptlet me VNC view only usual02:50
=== gerardo [gerardo@200.92.84.250] has joined #ubuntu
drspinHow can I share files between my two computers with different IP addresses connected to my cable modem through a switch??02:51
fscdrspin, Synaptic is nice in Hoary.  I've been a command line apt-getter for years, but finding myself using the gui a lot more these days02:51
Quaruptmaybe ill learn something02:51
=== Xappe [~jon@regulus3.student.uu.se] has joined #ubuntu
drspinin real time I mean02:51
=== moyogo [~moyogo@Toronto-HSE-ppp3717779.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu
Ziggitydelltony, whats kubuntu?02:51
usualQuarupt, man this is bs02:51
usualhaha02:51
Quaruptkubuntu?02:51
=== hayden [~hayden@203-219-130-10-qld.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
usualI wont use MSN02:51
fscKDE Ubuntu02:51
Quaruptusual, its not building?02:51
usualthis linphone-im package is just for MSN video02:52
usualyou saw it building02:52
Quaruptyea02:52
=== poxymo1 is now known as poxymox
Yobuianyone who is using hoary has to do development work with many third party libraries (libpng, libjpeg, postgresql, etc.) ?02:52
haydenyo ompaul02:52
Quaruptthats what i need lol02:52
usualoh02:52
drspinfsc:  ay -- it seems that Ubuntu is doing the right things to bring Linux to the average joe!02:52
Quarupti can give ya some like gmail invites for your troubles02:52
Quaruptlol02:52
drspinI have 50 Gmail invites...02:52
QuaruptI have over 60002:52
Quaruptlol02:52
=== underdog [~amedeiros@80.172.48.102] has joined #ubuntu
fscdrspin, and for those that have been using linux for years, and want a simple, nice looking gnome desktop02:53
usualI have gmail invites dripping out of my ass02:53
drspinheh - yeah it's pretty rediculous02:53
Ziggityfsc, whats the difference between kubuntu and ubuntu.. which is the official >>02:53
usualthanks though02:53
Quarupti had 12 accounts when they did the give everyone 50 invites thing02:53
underdogguys, ubuntu installation hangs when it's "Starting PC card services...". ideas? i'm on a toshiba laptop02:53
fscZiggity,  Ubuntu is official - Gnome02:53
Quaruptmaybe detect-laptop failed02:53
usualQuarupt, I am stopping the linphone-im package and moving onto the gaim-vv02:53
delltonykde with ubuntu02:53
Ziggityunderdog, do u have the card in?02:53
Quaruptno please dont02:54
underdogZiggity: no cards02:54
usualQuarupt, if my package for gaim-vv works maybe the linphone-im deb from that site works02:54
drspinunderdog: weird but try cleaning the dust out of the laptop -- expecially if you smoke [insert product here]  -- it solved a lot of problems for my roommate02:54
Quarupttheres no use the whole point of the gaim-vv fork is for video and audio support02:54
delltonydang can't get styles to act right with this thing :( Riddell if your around i sure could use your help02:54
Quaruptso if ya dont have that might as well use gaim02:54
underdogdrspin: was that supposed to be funny?02:54
Ziggityunderdog, whats the machine spec02:54
underdoghold on02:55
drspinunderdog: partially... but I'm serious --02:55
ZiggityWhere can I get new backgrounds etc for Ubuntu?02:55
Quarupt?me waits for working free linux Reason port02:55
usualI just said I was compiling gaim-vv02:55
usualnot gaim02:55
=== Quarupt waits for working free linux Reason port
underdogZiggity: www.gnomelook.org / www.deviantart.com02:55
Quarupti know02:55
usualand the linphone-im package from that site I gave you might work with it02:55
Quaruptbut that depend is what makes the video stuff work without the video stuff its just gaim02:56
drspinLinuxJones: I didn't get a reconfigure window after installing libgnome2-pearl02:56
drspinLOL *perl02:56
=== crbvegas [~crbvegas@ca-temecula-cuda2-c3a-230.snbrca.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu
usualdpkg-deb: building package `libj2k' in `../libj2k_0.0.9-1_i386.deb'.02:56
usualthat was quick02:56
Ziggityok.. I ran make install on Monodevelop it did not complain - it installed a menu item under programming BUT it don't open when I click it..02:56
Quarupti would pay someone 100 bux to port Reason for me02:56
haydenanyone know how to change the mouse cursor theme?02:56
haydenanyone know how to change the mouse cursor theme in gnome ubuntu?02:57
LinuxJonesdrspin, you have to reconfigure a package02:57
drspinI would pay for Macromedia if they would port their software02:57
Quaruptis the gaim-vv.deb gunna install all the depends for us or are we gunna have to dl em 1 by 1?02:57
underdogZiggity: what do you need to know?02:57
Quaruptdrspin, i use flashmx and dreamwaever in Vm02:58
Quaruptand fireworks02:58
Ziggityunderdog, about what ??02:58
Quaruptnot cold fusion though02:58
drspinQuarupt: sigh VM is ok but lame... the simple fact that I have to use window$ annoys me02:58
delltonyhayden, read this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1402902:58
=== crbvegas [~crbvegas@ca-temecula-cuda2-c3a-230.snbrca.adelphia.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
delltonyi use the pinux cursors02:59
=== crbvegas [~crbvegas@ca-temecula-cuda2-c3a-230.snbrca.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu
Quaruptdrspin, ya its true02:59
crbvegashello02:59
Quaruptmaybe cedega would run em?02:59
haydenok thanks02:59
crbvegasi cannot for the life of me attach this freakin ubuntu box to my ms network02:59
Quaruptnever thought about that02:59
drspinQuarupt: actually X-over Office will run both of them almost 100 %02:59
Ziggitywhat ever happened to Caldera Linux?02:59
Quaruptcrbvegas, samba?03:00
drspina few small annoyances... but useable03:00
=== aurax [aurax@bzq-218-41-142.cablep.bezeqint.net] has joined #ubuntu
crbvegasyeah, its on03:00
auraxanyone here uses intel mobo D915GAV ?03:00
=== SeFoKumA [~zienaga@44.Red-81-44-205.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu
crbvegasi don't know much about samba03:00
auraxi need some information about it03:00
crbvegasbut i enabled it03:00
delltonyanyone here running kubuntu?03:00
Quaruptcrbvegas, are the xp machines on sp2?03:00
Ziggitycrbvegas, It should work straight out..03:00
crbvegasyes03:00
crbvegasyeah, i don't see it on my network03:00
drspinin defense of VM, I learned what little I know about networking using Vmware in windows && linux03:00
Quaruptlol Dr_Acemaster03:01
Quaruptdrspin,03:01
Quarupteven03:01
drspinheh03:01
Quarupteww fc3 is ugly03:01
=== underdog [~amedeiros@80.172.48.102] has left #ubuntu []
delltonycrbvegas, u using vmware?03:01
auraxanyone ?03:01
Ziggityok.. chaps.. gotta go .. thanx for all the help..03:02
QuaruptMan i am so happy i found Ubuntu, its the greatsest distro i have ever use honestly03:02
Ziggitybrandon_niemczyk, Thanx.. hope to see you soon/03:02
crbvegasuhhh03:02
Ziggitybye!03:02
crbvegasno i am not using vm where03:02
delltonyok03:02
raydogg``whats wrong with vmwar ?03:02
raydogg``vmware ?03:02
Quaruptnothing03:02
delltonywell try this smb://ipofhost03:02
Quaruptlong as ya have the mem03:02
delltonylike smb://192.168.1.10103:03
raydogg``I use it all the time to do sandbox testing03:03
raydogg``works great for me03:03
QuaruptI have 2gb and styill cant stand running xp in a host03:03
raydogg``i only have 1 gig03:03
=== kamarudin [~kamarudin@137.44.197.32] has left #ubuntu []
drspindelltony: will that work for another computer that pulls it's IP address from my ISP?03:03
Quarupti have the fastest ddr2 you can buy too03:03
crbvegasim retarded03:03
=== NetwrkMonkey [~Monkey@netwrkmonkey.user] has joined #ubuntu
=== fgx [~fgubuntu@host123-223.pool8248.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu
delltonycrbvegas, i assume it worked ;)03:04
=== membreya [~membreya@c211-28-78-53.sunsh3.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
crbvegas<delltony> well try this smb://ipofhost <------------ no, i don't know what this means03:04
crbvegastry it where03:04
QuaruptI might venture into getting fglrx driver working again, but it really pissed me off last night03:04
delltonyin a file browser03:04
usualQuarupt, .....03:04
Quaruptya03:04
crbvegasalright03:04
lukewarmDoes array 6 seem like a pretty stable drop?03:05
crbvegasnow heres the thing03:05
Quaruptusual, .....03:05
crbvegasit wont let me do that03:05
crbvegasbecause i have public IPs03:05
Quarupt\wtf is array?03:05
=== sander__ [~sander@pool-151-202-14-28.ny325.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu
delltonyso your not connected to the widnows box thru a router03:05
delltonyor a crossover cable?03:05
usualdpkg-deb: building package `gaim-0.79-vv' in `../gaim-0.79-vv_3-1_i386.deb'.03:06
crbvegasthrough a switch, going into the cable modem03:06
drspincrbvegas: I have the same problem :) :)03:06
auraxso anyone here working with D915GAV mobo ?03:06
lukewarmQuarupt: /topic #ubuntu03:06
crbvegasSWEET03:07
=== Darwin35 [~Darin@c-24-3-241-22.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
crbvegasive never met anyone with this problem03:07
Darwin35what is the root passwor for waty worthog ?03:07
delltonywell whats the ip of the windows machine?03:07
crbvegasbut i've got 5 dynamic IPs03:07
Quarupti have read the yoic it doesnt explain waht array is03:07
Darwin35I just installed but it never asked me to set a root passwd03:07
drspinI have 2 ATM -- one for the dual processor and one for this machine03:08
drspinDarwin35: consider using sudo03:08
=== mindphasr [~mind@68.29.237.26] has joined #ubuntu
Darwin35anyone know the root password for it03:08
drspinDarwin35: man sudo03:08
Darwin35you have tokow the passwd03:08
crbvegascrap03:08
drspinDarwin35: your password will be the same as your password...03:08
crbvegasgoing to add some friends, will talk later, bye all!03:08
QuaruptDarwin35, sudo uses your password for root03:08
Quaruptusual, everything goin okay man?03:09
drspinyour [sudo]  password will be the same as your password on a fresh warty install03:09
crbvegasPM me if you can work some magic for me while I'm away03:09
usualQuarupt, http://transamrit.net/~usual/shot.png03:09
drspincrbvegas: I think that only option is VPN03:09
=== Ziggity [~ziggity@213.137.8.107] has joined #ubuntu
=== njan [~james@james.user] has joined #ubuntu
drspincrbvegas: or buy a router...03:09
Quaruptusual ever heard of jpg03:10
=== Quarupt waits
Quaruptlol03:10
Ziggityok..i'm back.. how do I uninstall an application after using make intstall ?>>03:10
usualbah03:10
Darwin35why do they lock the root passwd03:10
Darwin35it should not be set03:10
drspinDarwin35: security03:10
Darwin35it should ask you during the install to set a root passwd03:10
Ziggityhow do I uninstall an application after using make intstall ?>>03:11
Quaruptusual03:11
Quaruptcool03:11
Darwin35man sudo is a pain03:11
Quaruptdid ya add the debs to the repositories?03:11
drspinZiggity: try "make uninstall"03:11
usualQuarupt, no, I used the ones from the link I gave you earlier because it was taking a while to compile03:11
=== xubz [~Ricky@239.21.62.81.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #ubuntu
Quaruptdarwin just go sudo passwd    then enter your user password and you wont have to worry about it anymore03:11
=== optik_ [~optik@200.106.76.252] has joined #ubuntu
Quaruptlol03:12
Yobuijoeblow1234 are you there?03:12
Ziggitydrspin, oohhh ok..03:12
Quaruptusual well when i tried those it didnt work so i guess im sol again03:12
=== underdog [~amedeiros@80.172.48.102] has joined #ubuntu
usualQuarupt, no, you just didn't pay any mind to what it complained about03:12
underdoghmm, I have diabled hw-detection on start-up, but it hangs when it installs the extra packages03:12
underdogany ideas? :(03:12
Quaruptwhats the link again?03:12
usualhttp://people.debian.org/~smimram/debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/03:13
usualyou gotta add it to your sources.list03:13
=== drspin [~cole@ip68-2-123-172.ph.ph.cox.net] has left #Ubuntu []
=== eleazar [~eleazar@200.44.246.85] has joined #ubuntu
=== tobizug [~tobihjg@D87d0.d.pppool.de] has joined #ubuntu
ZiggityWooooHooooo that worked03:14
=== membreya [~membreya@c211-28-78-53.sunsh3.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
Quaruptusual http://www.pastebin.com/24952403:14
Ziggitythanx03:14
=== bluefoxicy [~bluefox@pcp484848pcs.whtmrs01.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
ZiggityBye! again03:14
Quaruptusual what do i need to add?03:14
eleazarhi, i just installed ubuntu and it didnt asked me for setting the root password, so anyone can tell me how to set it?03:14
Quaruptwhats the exact line, im bad with source adding ;)03:14
usualQuarupt, use synaptic03:15
usualQuarupt, remove gaim-data03:15
Quaruptokay03:15
Quarupthow?03:15
usualremove whatever  it complains about03:15
Quaruptlol03:15
usualman.....03:15
uMkuluman is to view the manual of most commands, type 'man command'03:15
usualread something damn03:15
tobizuggermans here?03:15
Darwin35ok got it03:15
Darwin35passwd changed03:15
stuNNedso what's the answer to the slowness in Hoary current?03:15
Quaruptsee this is why using the rpm was easier i didnt need to go out and research all this shit03:15
usualQuarupt, I got the same exact complaints03:16
eleazarhello?03:16
usualeasier does NOT mean better03:16
danielsusual: itym 'not always'03:16
usualask around, not many people will say using alien on an rpm is a good idea03:16
johnnybezakit usual ly does though :D03:16
johnwlittleeleazar: Ubuntu uses sudo as opposed to a root account for admin features03:16
Quaruptjust dpkg --remove gaim-data?03:16
usualjohnnybezak, heh03:16
usualdaniels, hey I have been meaning to bug you :003:17
Quarupt?03:17
danielsoh?03:17
=== Dreamer3 [~unknown@sdn-ap-002tnnashP0339.dialsprint.net] has joined #ubuntu
usualdaniels, I am having quite a laggy desktop in hoary....is this another X issue?03:17
underdoghmm, I have diabled hw-detection on start-up, but it hangs when it installs the extra packages. any ideas?03:17
Quaruptusual, please walk me through what ya just did, it wont take long03:17
usualQuarupt, do you know how to add the site to your sources.list?03:18
danielsusual: i've heard a lot about it, but I don't know why03:18
Quaruptyea with synaptic but i need an APT line03:18
usualdaniels, just the fact that I am not the only one makes me feel better03:18
Quaruptis it just deb site main stable?03:18
eleazarjohnwlittle, ok how do i setup my sudo account?03:18
usualdeb http://people.debian.org/~smimram/debian unstable main03:19
johnwlittleyou dont setup a sudo account...its a command03:19
speeli wouldent consider installing debain made packages with ubuntu .deb packages03:19
eleazarjohnwlittle, so, i just type sudo and thats it?03:19
dazed_hey can anyone help me get on a windows network to share files??whats the program03:19
Quarupt<speel> i wouldent consider installing debain made packages with ubuntu .deb packages03:20
Quarupt???03:20
johnwlittleeleazar: read the starter guide, follow it, and all will be clear: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/03:20
Quaruptthast what your supposed to use03:20
Quaruptusual what the APT line for the site?03:20
usualdaniels, if you happen to hear a soulution and see me floating around plz share03:20
virtualddoes anyone else use traceroute-nanog from hoary universe? the -O option doesn't work, where do i report this?03:20
usualQuarupt, scroll up03:20
speelwell one reason is ubuntu does not reccomend using debian packages03:20
=== jblack [~jblack@static-209-158-45-74.scr.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu
dazed_anyone help me use samba to get on windows networks please help!?03:20
=== spooky_ [~callum@203-167-185-207.dsl.clear.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu
speelwell debian made packages i.e packages from debian.com03:21
jblackHas anybody seen a problem with their machine locking up when running apt-get ?03:21
Quarupti did all ya gave me was the site, to add it in synaptic i need a full APT line03:21
johnwlittleeleazar: also, here is an explanation of sudo http://www.courtesan.com/sudo/03:21
usualQuarupt, scroll up and actually read03:21
dazed_anyone help me use samba to get on windows networks please help!?03:22
Quaruptomg i have read everything you have said in my buffer03:22
Quaruptwant a damn screen shot03:22
=== davix [~lama@85-64-144-198.barak.net.il] has joined #ubuntu
usualQuarupt is it just deb site main stable?03:22
usualeleazar johnwlittle, ok how do i setup my sudo account?03:22
usualusual deb http://people.debian.org/~smimram/debian unstable main03:22
Quaruptoh03:22
Quaruptmy bad03:23
Quaruptthanks03:23
usualnp03:23
QuaruptI guess i didnt read EVERYTHING03:23
Quaruptsmack03:23
usualheh03:23
johnwlittlei give up lol03:23
Quaruptokay i added the source now what?03:24
speelsudo apt-get update03:24
speelor open up synaptic and hit reload03:24
usualQuarupt, update03:24
=== Inge [~oscar@200.95.146.15.cableonline.com.mx] has joined #ubuntu
Quarupti allways do that03:24
Quarupti did03:24
usualQuarupt, then search got gaim03:24
usualyou'll see gaim gaim-data and gaim-vv03:25
raydogg``is there a changelog for array6 ?03:25
usualchoose to remove gaim and gaim-data03:25
=== jimmy_deanWork [~jhodapp@65.243.209.81] has joined #ubuntu
usualand to install gaim-vv03:25
dazed_can anyone please help me use samba...how do i explore other computers?03:25
raydogg``is there a changelog for array6 ?03:25
raydogg``dazed_, install smb4k03:25
dazed_smbk4?03:25
dazed_ok03:25
johnwlittledazed_: did you follow the samba instructions in the starter guide?03:25
speelraydogg``: http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2005-March/024637.html03:25
=== Nekohayo [~Kiddo@ip216-239-75-127.vif.net] has joined #ubuntu
raydogg``thx speel03:26
speelnp03:26
dazed_johnwlittle..wheres the starter guide?03:26
dazed_the ubuntu>?03:26
dazed_or the samba03:26
uMkului heard the samba was my best bet then03:26
Quaruptokay done usual03:26
johnwlittlehttp://www.ubuntuguide.org/03:26
Quaruptbut gaim-vv shows up there as well03:26
usualQuarupt, ok, now apply03:26
Quaruptmaybe from the rpm?03:26
Yobuidelltony ayt?03:26
Quaruptits applied03:27
usualok, now launch gaim03:27
delltonyyeah i'm here03:27
Quaruptbut what about gaim-vv its listed as an installed package as well03:27
usualcheck the about, is it gaim-vv03:27
Yobuidelltony you have KDE on ubuntu too, right?03:27
usualoh03:27
usualyeah03:27
=== jimmy_deanWork [~jhodapp@65.243.209.81] has joined #ubuntu
delltonyyeah03:27
usualwell03:27
usualtry it03:27
QuaruptCannot launch icon03:27
QuaruptDetails: Failed to execute child process "gaim" (No such file or directory)03:27
usualdoes it open03:27
Quaruptnope03:27
usualremove gaim-vv03:27
usualand install it again03:27
usualthat damn rpm03:27
speel:: caugh cant use debian.com packages caugh ::03:28
Quaruptlol ok03:28
delltonyYobui, ?03:28
uMkuluYobui, are you uding hoary ?03:28
usualspeel, cough couch see my ss of it running fine cough03:28
NekohayoHi, is there an MP3 tagger out there that queries information from the net, then leaves the user the choice to use them (if accurate) or not?03:28
speelthen you got lucky03:28
Yobuihave you been able to browse windows shares with KDE? i tried the LAN browser but it comploains protocol not supported lan03:28
usualwhat do you think ubuntu is03:28
Quaruptinstall it from the deb i got from the site you gave me?03:28
YobuiuMkulu no, warty03:28
uMkuluYobui: huh?03:28
usualQuarupt, man it's so simple....get rid of that fucking rpm deb you made, then use synaptic to update and install gaim-vv03:29
speelrofl03:29
delltonyyeah i access my shares just fine but i ssh into my box03:29
YobuiuMkulu delltony  in the home icon03:29
uMkuluYobui: sorry...03:29
Quarupthey it worked03:29
delltonyi do it different03:29
usualheh03:29
Yobuidelltony did you install something special? like samba-kde or something like that?03:30
poxymoxConz03:30
Quaruptusual,Thanks a million03:30
delltonyfor what the ssh?03:30
Yobuino03:30
Quaruptbut what depends do i need to get all the video and stuff working?03:30
usualQuarupt, np, now if anything in it doesn't work, read the site03:30
usualenable plugins03:30
Yobuifor the samba share03:30
usualinstall extra packages etc03:30
Yobuii have a disk shared on a windows box03:30
delltonyno i just set it up03:30
Yobuii want to acces it from my ubuntu-kde03:30
delltonyinstalled samba03:30
delltonyand setup the smb.conf file03:30
usualQuarupt, your on your own now man I already uninstalled it03:30
Quaruptusual do i need all those packages that the site says, where can i get em?03:30
delltonyto include my share dirs and all03:31
usualQuarupt, I would go to preferences03:31
usualenable the plguins like linphone03:31
usuallibj2k03:31
Yobuidelltony i mean the other way around, accessing the windows box from the linux, not the linux shares from the windows03:31
usualshit like that03:31
usualthen try your audio video03:31
usualand go from there03:31
delltonyno all you do is use smb03:31
delltonyat least thats what i do anyway03:31
Yobuidelltony could you provide an example please? :) (smbclient you mean?)03:32
delltonyopen up the filebrowser03:32
delltonynautlius or whatever its called03:32
Yobuiyrah03:32
Yobuiyeah03:32
=== linux_galore [~linux_gal@60-240-64-99-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
delltonyand put in the address field smb://192.168.1.10003:32
delltonyor whatever your ip is of that host03:33
=== linux_galore lurks
poxymoxYobui: mount -t smbfs -o username=bla //IPADRESS/Share /mnt -o umask=003:33
Quaruptusual, i dont see any of those listed as plugins?03:33
=== jimmy_deanWork_ [~jhodapp@65.243.209.81] has joined #ubuntu
usualQuarupt, I did03:33
delltonyor you can mount it like he said03:33
usualQuarupt, install them03:33
Quarupti dunno how?03:33
usualQuarupt, in synaptic search for linphone03:33
Quaruptman why is this such a hassle03:33
usualQuarupt, and libj2k03:33
usualit aint'03:33
Quaruptok03:33
usualyou just don't know03:33
usualthats all03:33
usualnow you know03:34
Yobuidelltony i tried that but it didn't work, i'll try mounting the thing and probably doing that i'll discover what the problem is, maybe it's the firewall or something03:34
Yobuipoxymox thnx03:34
usualman I need another gunniess03:34
usualheh03:34
Quaruptusual, theres linphone and linphone103:34
usualQuarupt, I have no clue03:34
usualQuarupt, ones newer ones older'03:34
poxymoxnp :-)03:34
Quaruptthey all have same version03:35
Quaruptexactly03:35
delltonybut what i have always done was mount -t smbfs //ipaddress/sharefolder /mountpoint -o rw,umask=777,fmask=77703:35
usualok, go for broke03:35
Quarupthuh?03:35
usualif one don't work remove it03:35
usualthen try the other03:35
=== allio [~omfg@203.184.4.124] has joined #ubuntu
GammaRaydelltony: a little redundant03:35
delltonylike mount -t smbfs //192.168.1.200/shared /media/myxpdrive -o rw,umask=777,fmask=77703:36
usualQuarupt, I would go here http://people.debian.org/~smimram/debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/03:36
Quaruptthey were all dependencies of the main one anyways03:36
usualQuarupt, and use that as a reference03:36
GammaRaydelltony: umask covers fmask03:36
usualinstall shit in synaptic that you see in there03:36
Yobuihmmm03:36
delltonyok didn't know that see learn something new every day03:36
delltonythanks03:36
Yobuii get wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on //192.168.0.1/E or too many mounted filesystems :/03:37
usualliblinphone1_1.0.0pre9-1_i386.deb       04-Mar-2005 03:14   173k03:37
=== davix [~lama@85-64-144-198.barak.net.il] has joined #ubuntu
Quaruptokay so there both installed, whats the one i need for msn video confrencing?03:37
usualthats newwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww03:37
usualno idea03:37
usualtry it03:37
usualsee what happens03:37
Quaruptlol its the one ya just said03:37
Quaruptwhere can i get it?03:37
usualsynaptic man03:37
usualwhere you been03:37
delltonyYobui, have you done sudo /etc/init.d/smb restart ?03:37
Yobuidelltony heh, good idea :)03:38
=== robodex [~robodex@HSE-London-ppp197084.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu
Yobuii had it running03:38
Yobuithe same problem03:38
=== Slaggy [~Slaggy@ip68-110-22-134.om.om.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu
robodexwow, I never realized gdesklets had an irc desklet.... how... useless03:38
robodex:p03:38
=== PacoBCN [~PacoBCN@62-15-248-28.inversas.jazztel.es] has joined #ubuntu
QuaruptNOW i have no gaim bins?03:39
delltonytry samba instead03:39
Quaruptwtf?03:39
Yobuiyes03:39
delltonysudo /etc/init.d/samba restart03:39
PacoBCNhi guys03:39
PacoBCNone question03:39
usualdaniels, that lag seems to affect everything in X not just something specific03:39
Quaruptusual, where is the gaim-vv bin?03:39
Yobuii did /etc/init.d/samba restart (as root)03:39
PacoBCNI can delete linux-headers, right?03:39
usualQuarupt, it's just gaim03:39
poxymoxYou installed the smbfs?03:39
PacoBCNI mean, I need as much disk space as possible now03:39
Quaruptya i dont have a gaim bin anymore either03:39
Quaruptwtf03:39
Yobuisudo apt-get install smbfs?03:39
usualweird03:40
usuali did03:40
poxymoxcat /proc/filesystems | grep smb03:40
Quaruptgreat03:40
Quaruptthis is soooo fun03:40
usualmaybe I should VNC to YOU!03:40
usualhaha03:40
poxymoxyes03:40
usualor ssh03:40
dazed_alright i cant get this to work03:40
Quaruptroot@UBunBOX:/home/sean # gaim03:40
Quaruptbash: gaim: command not found03:40
Quaruptman, wtf03:40
usualman03:40
usuali dunno03:40
usualhaha03:40
Yobuigreat, i didn't know it wasn't installed by default :)03:40
Quaruptgreat03:40
usualI can't see it03:40
Yobuinow i'm seeing the files03:41
usualyou saw mine03:41
Quaruptim glad03:41
Yobuithanks again guys03:41
Quaruptya i did03:41
usualgo back to synapitc03:41
usualsearch for gaim03:41
usualwhat does it show03:41
=== mindphasr [~mind@68.31.108.138] has joined #ubuntu
PacoBCNis it safe to download linux-headers?03:41
Quarupti know why03:41
Quarupti need03:41
Quaruptliblinphone003:41
usualk03:42
usualsudo apt-get -f install03:42
usualif it's broken03:42
Quaruptit never even installed03:42
Quarupti just thought it did03:42
usualoh03:42
Quaruptand now i cant find03:42
usuali told you fool03:42
Quaruptliblinphone003:42
usualsearch for linphone03:42
Quaruptnot in synaptic03:42
usualand libj2k03:42
Quarupti installed those allready remeber03:43
usualman I got no clue....just going on whatcha tell me03:43
Quarupti need liblinphone0 thats what dpkg is saying03:43
usualI'm just trying to help ya03:43
Quarupti know03:43
Quaruptand i apreciate it03:43
usualnp03:43
Quaruptwhen these oxy's i just took kick in ill be in a waay better mood03:43
usualsudo apt-get install liblinphone003:43
Yobuiok,03:43
Quaruptbut where can i find a liblinphone0 deb03:43
Yobuimy last question03:44
Quarupttheres no package03:44
Yobuiwhat do you use to see avi's?03:44
usualhttp://people.debian.org/~smimram/debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/03:44
usualit's right there03:44
usualliblinphone1_1.0.0pre9-1_i386.deb       04-Mar-2005 03:14   173k03:44
=== hayden [~hayden@203-219-130-10-qld.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
QuaruptPackage liblinphone0 is not available, but is referred to by another package.03:44
QuaruptThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or03:44
Quaruptis only available from another source03:44
QuaruptE: Package liblinphone0 has no installation candidate03:44
usualtry liblinphone03:44
usualwithout the 003:44
Quaruptbut i added that source and i cant find it still03:44
usualor liblinphone103:45
Quaruptno go03:45
Quaruptbut dpkg says i need Package liblinphone0 is not available, but is referred to by another package.03:45
QuaruptThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or03:45
Quaruptis only available from another source03:45
QuaruptE: Package liblinphone0 has no installation candidate03:45
Quaruptooops03:45
Quaruptsorry03:45
=== housetier_ [~housetier@84.56.135.229] has joined #ubuntu
usualtry 103:45
Quaruptforgot that was in my clip still03:45
usualliblinphone103:45
QuaruptThe following packages have unmet dependencies:03:45
Quarupt  gaim-vv: Depends: liblinphone0 but it is not installable03:45
QuaruptE: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).03:45
underdoghmm, I have diabled hw-detection on start-up, but it hangs when it installs the extra packages. any ideas?03:46
Quaruptwhats that all about?03:46
usualand you did sudo apt-get -f install03:46
=== dazed [~dazed@adsl-219-156-58.aep.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== kurros [~wade@92-14.26-24.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
Quaruptusual?03:46
uMkuluit has been said that usual is building a linphone-im deb03:46
dazedsomeone really needs to help me with samba03:46
dazedi cant get it to work03:46
usualuMkulu, it was said much earlier that usual found out it was for MSN video and killed the build03:46
uMkuluusual: excuse me?03:46
usualuMkulu, excuse you for what?03:47
Quaruptusual, okay it removed it03:47
haydenAustralia03:47
Quaruptusual,  now what reinstall it or?03:47
usualQuarupt, removed what exactly?03:47
uMkuluusual: The server at bofh.engr.wisc.edu (port 666) appears to be down.03:47
uMkuluwell, Australia is the place to be!03:47
dazedcan someone please help me with samba03:47
Quaruptgaim-vv03:47
Quaruptit was half installed i guess03:47
dazedi just want a few files off my stupid friends winblows03:47
usualwow03:47
usuali had none of this trouble03:47
usualsame OS03:47
Quaruptlol03:47
Quaruptdunno03:47
Quaruptanyways should i just try to install it again?03:48
usualupdate03:48
Quarupti might be using the wrong deb i wanna dl it again03:48
usualthen try again yeah03:48
Quaruptwhats the site onvce more03:48
usualhttp://people.debian.org/~smimram/debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/03:48
usualbookmarkt hat shit03:48
usualQuarupt, dload whatever you need right from there03:48
usualif it bitches about a dependency download it from there also03:49
usualect ect ect03:49
Quaruptisnt that what i added as a source?03:49
=== marcin_ant [~marcin@www.e-dev.tele2.pl] has joined #ubuntu
usualyes03:49
Quaruptlol so i can just use synaptic03:49
usualbut if you download it right fromt he browser you don't have to go throught he hassle of apt not liking the package name03:50
usualQuarupt, yes, but you were having issues03:50
Quaruptoh i see03:50
Quaruptlets try this again03:50
usualaright03:50
usualbrb getting more beer03:50
=== tga [~tga@S0106000f66aeaf64.vs.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu
marcin_anthi guoys03:50
underdogguys, ubuntu crashes when it's "Installing extra packages..." on my toshiba laptop. what should I do?03:50
tgahey03:50
haydeni accidently took gaim from the task bar in gnome, how can i get it back there (not a launcher, to sit there when it is open)03:51
marcin_ants/guoys/guys03:51
Quaruptgaim-vv depends on liblinphone003:51
tgaany idea how I can install a dri-enabled libGL? xmesalib-dri doesn't seem to do the trick03:51
Quaruptlol03:51
Quaruptwtf03:51
Quaruptand i have 103:51
marcin_antcould someone tell me how to send files to cell phone via bluetooth?03:51
Quaruptso i have to downgrade or what?03:51
tgaQuarupt: man ln :)03:51
=== davix [~lama@85-64-144-198.barak.net.il] has joined #ubuntu
tgaQuarupt: ie create a symlink and see if it works03:51
marcin_antI can receive with gnome-obex-server but I don't know how to send03:51
=== drew [~drew@c-24-5-117-25.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
tgagnome-obex-client?03:52
drewhey03:52
drewi just installed ubunto03:52
drewer ubuntu03:52
drewi love it03:52
drewvery good job03:52
=== Kaloz [~kaloz@arrakis.dune.hu] has joined #ubuntu
usualmmmm03:53
usualbeer03:53
usualman X is driving me bonkers03:53
drewim just wounderin for some reason my apt-get doesnt seem to ahve any packages in its repo and or no repo, how can i add the ubuntu .deb package repos03:53
Quaruptusual, WTF03:53
Quaruptgaim-vv depends on liblinphone0; however:03:53
usual?03:53
Quarupt  Package liblinphone0 is not installed.03:53
Quaruptand i installed it from THAT site03:53
usualok03:53
Quaruptman this is gay03:53
Yobuibye guys, thanks for all the help03:54
drewhow do i setup apt-get in ubuntu03:54
Quaruptit wants liblinphone0 and the site only has liblinphone103:54
drewfor all the ubuntu repos03:54
haydeni accidently took gaim from the task bar in gnome, how can i get it back there (not a launcher, to sit there when it is open)03:54
Quest-Masterdrew: apt-get is already setup03:54
coroneri can seem to make my ubuntu kill the X in order to be able to install the nvidia drivers?03:54
Quest-Masterdrew: Just sudo apt-get install packagenamehere03:54
Quest-MasterOr03:54
Quest-MasterUse Synaptic, drew03:55
=== mairu [mairu@CPE00c09f4aeec9-CM0011ae8a7ee0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu
GammaRaycoroner: try /etc/init.d/gdm stop03:55
mairuhow to check whether infra red is detected or not? Any commands like lspci,lsusb?03:55
drewyea03:55
drewhrmm03:55
drewquest-master i never did the update my system thing when i installed03:55
=== Ivy6Quaff [~Sir@c906a0a6.virtua.com.br] has joined #ubuntu
drewlet me try tho03:56
underdogguys, ubuntu crashes when it's "Installing extra packages..." on my toshiba laptop. what should I do?03:56
coronerthanks GammaRay03:56
=== Slaggy [~Slaggy@ip68-110-22-134.om.om.cox.net] has left #ubuntu []
tgadrew: you either use Synaptic or you stick this line in your /etc/apt/sources.list03:56
tgadeb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ warty-security main restricted03:56
tgaoops, wrong line03:56
drewi dont have synaptics on my computer03:57
drewodd03:57
=== mairu [mairu@CPE00c09f4aeec9-CM0011ae8a7ee0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has left #ubuntu ["Part"]
drew:-/03:57
Quarupti need another IM client while im working on this one enyone know another one packaged for debian?03:57
tgadrew: synaptic03:57
uMkulusynaptic is the packagemanager GUI on dpkg based systems03:57
underdogguys, ubuntu crashes when it's "Installing extra packages..." on my toshiba laptop. what should I do?03:57
drewoh03:57
=== compmanio36 [~chatzilla@c-24-19-132-68.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
drewthere we go, sorry im an arch linux user03:57
drewim used to pacman03:57
tgauMkulu: who asked you? go sit in a corner!03:57
uMkuluwish i knew, tga03:57
=== rrm3 [rrm3@resin.csoft.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== mindphasr [~mind@68.31.108.138] has joined #ubuntu
johnnybezakim just upgrading to hoary, will that give me a new kernel?03:58
tgajohnnybezak: if it doesn't you can grab one later03:58
bluefoxicythis is funny03:58
underdogguys, ubuntu crashes when it's "Installing extra packages..." on my toshiba laptop. what should I do?03:58
underdogguys, ubuntu crashes when it's "Installing extra packages..." on my toshiba laptop. what should I do?03:58
bluefoxicymy mom is a dumb bitch03:58
=== davix [~lama@85-64-144-198.barak.net.il] has joined #ubuntu
bluefoxicyand she likes linux better than windows because it's "easier to use"03:58
tgaunderdog: are you installing or something?03:59
bluefoxicyso I gave her a Unix manual XP03:59
virtualdbluefoxicy: :D03:59
underdogtga: trying to, yes03:59
tgaunderdog: maybe your cd is scratched or something03:59
johnnybezaktga: yeah i don't actually want one I was just wondering03:59
=== anjumbutt [~anjumbutt@203.130.16.50] has joined #ubuntu
virtualdmy mom can't use linux because there's no bookkeeping software04:00
underdogtga: no, it's brand new04:00
virtualdat least none worth its name04:00
tgajohnnybezak: apt-cache search linux-image04:00
underdognot the only one having this problem, searched through the forums04:00
tgajohnnybezak: I don't know if upgrading to hoary will get a new kernel for you04:00
=== R0bNyc [~jkd@pool-162-83-254-150.ny5030.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu
johnnybezakunderdog: what crashes04:00
=== Kaloz [~kaloz@arrakis.dune.hu] has joined #ubuntu
johnnybezaktga: cool thanks04:00
tgaunderdog: oh, I don't know then :\04:00
=== NetwrkMonkey [~Monkey@netwrkmonkey.user] has joined #ubuntu
tgavirtuald: gnucash works for personal use04:01
virtualdtga: it's not personal use 8] 04:01
tgavirtuald: you could also try to run whatever you're using in wine.. it might not work but it will be an interesting experience04:01
virtualdtoo risky04:01
johnnybezakhave any of you guys set mail up with ubuntu?04:02
=== davix [~lama@85-64-144-198.barak.net.il] has joined #ubuntu
johnnybezakbecause mine sort of works but I'm getting this error, anyone know how to fix04:02
tgavirtuald: give the software a try in wine, then write an article/blog entry about it. 3. ??? 4. profit04:02
johnnybezak<thomas.mcmahon@iinet.net.au> (expanded from <root>): host04:02
johnnybezak    mail.m.iinet.net.au[203.0.178.192]  said: 553 sorry, your envelope sender04:02
johnnybezak    domain must exist (#5.7.1) (in reply to MAIL FROM command)04:02
virtualdhehe04:02
marcin_anthello again - any gnome-bluetooth user here?04:03
underdogjohnnybezak: the installation crashes04:03
=== dottedline [~rick@4.10.40.222] has joined #ubuntu
johnnybezakunderdog: ok the install on to the laptop04:03
johnnybezakunderdog: don't install the extra packages04:04
tgado you even get a choice?04:04
=== nomasteryoda [~nomastery@ip24-252-193-86.mc.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== hayden [~hayden@203-219-130-10-qld.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
=== davix [~lama@85-64-144-198.barak.net.il] has joined #ubuntu
=== ermo [~ermo@3E6B20D4.rev.stofanet.dk] has left #ubuntu ["*p00f*"]
haydenhow do i add a notification area to gnome 2.804:06
johnnybezaktga: i dont know04:06
=== jblack [~jblack@static-209-158-45-74.scr.east.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu []
underdogjohnnybezak: i'm running "custom" right now04:06
=== dottedline is now known as boogerhead
johnnybezakunderdog: good idea, just do a minimal install from the cd, you can always just apt-get the rest of the stuff04:07
underdogyeah04:08
=== coroner_ [~coroner@CPE20320884-1707-5.CMTS01.MQL.ncable.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
underdogi'll keep you posted04:08
=== zorba64 [~michael31@dsl-214.131.240.220.lns02-wick-bne.dsl.comindico.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
haydenhow do i add a notification area to gnome 2.804:10
=== Kaloz [~kaloz@arrakis.dune.hu] has joined #ubuntu
usualright click panel04:11
usualadd applet04:11
usualnotification applet04:11
haydenahh thanks04:11
=== gangalino [~cwa2@Toronto-HSE-ppp4165614.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu
Levanderanybody know a little about mysql privilege tables? think i just figured something out through a lengthy trial and error process that i wanna verify04:12
usualLevander, maybe try phpmyadmin?04:12
=== StoffBox-Steve [~steve@pD9E576B0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== OrangeSlice [~orange@dsl-12-160-171-167.elltel.net] has joined #ubuntu
Levanderusual, why would i try that?04:12
usualLevander, I found it as a pretty decent front end to mysql04:13
underdogjohnnybezak: it will still try to install the damn extra packages :(04:13
=== StoffBox-Steve Happy Dual-Head is working :D
gangalinowhat's the proper syntax for using unrar to extract files from a rar archive?04:13
underdoglet me try another cd04:13
underdogalthough i'm pretty sure this one is good04:13
bluefoxicyquestion04:13
gangalinounrar -x rarfile.rar?04:13
usualgangalino, unrar pak.rar04:13
=== Quarupt [~Quarupt@c-67-170-1-6.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
bluefoxicyif you install array 6 hoary and specify reiserfs as the partition containing /boot, will it use grub by default04:13
usualor rar -x04:13
usualwb Quarupt04:14
tgabluefoxicy: I remember having to pass a funny mount option when using reiser for boot, make sure you find out about that04:14
johnnybezakunderdog: that sux04:14
gangalinousual: it always fails, even though unrar -t shows the files04:14
johnnybezakunderdog: are you sure its not the dodgy cd04:14
Levanderhas any one else tried the new database application in OOo, called Base? what'd yall think?04:14
tgabluefoxicy: the Gentoo folks probably have this well documented04:15
bluefoxicytga:  notail, and you don't have to04:16
bluefoxicygrub knows about tails04:16
bluefoxicyso does lilo since about 3 or 4 years ago04:16
=== stub [~stub@dsl-246.248.240.220.dsl.comindico.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
tgabluefoxicy: heh, I'm outdated then. I've always used ext2 for my /boot04:17
bluefoxicyalso for about 5 or 6 years after 99% of pcs still in use could boot from past 1024 cyllindars people still perpetuated the separate /boot at cyllindar 0 thing because tehy were too dumb to realize that you could boot a 30 gig hard drive at cyllindar 55,00004:17
=== awtomlinson [~awtomlins@cpe-24-176-131-163.suff.va.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu
underdogjohnnybezak: does the dodgy cd issue happen a lot? I mean, it's brand new... but i'm trying one that was used for an installation already04:17
bluefoxicyI mean fuck04:17
=== mseney [~mseney@70-97-140-21.dsl1.glv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined #ubuntu
awtomlinsoni have just reinstalled warty ubuntu.  now, when i click on the Show Desktop icon, it opens the desktop folder in nautilus.  how can i get this to actually show the desktop?04:17
bluefoxicyI booted from a 30 gig drive with 58,000 cyllindars with / intentionally at the end and 4 gigs wide, with /boot on /, in a 200 mhz pentium from 199804:17
bluefoxicyusing lilo04:18
johnnybezakunderdog: it certainly can happen, have you got another copy?04:18
mseneyhas anyone been able to get the nvidia 6629 drivers to work under Hoary w/ a Riva TNT?04:18
underdogjohnnybezak: can we pm?04:18
johnnybezakunderdog: yeah04:19
=== Robzulah [Zwan@AC974654.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu
awtomlinson i have just reinstalled warty ubuntu.  now, when i click on the Show Desktop icon, it opens the desktop folder in nautilus.  how can i get this to actually show the desktop?04:20
=== davix [~lama@85-64-144-198.barak.net.il] has joined #ubuntu
=== fgx [~fgx@host123-223.pool8248.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu
RobzulahHello.  I am new to Ubuntu and my Warty Warthog CD's just arrived.  I went to install, but when I go to set up partitions I found out Macintosh has already used up all my free space in one partition.  I've just recently started learning a lot about computers, and partitions are still a bit fuzzy, can I split the main partition in the Ubuntu setup?04:21
calchttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1590804:24
calcthat thread seems to have info about how to do what you want04:24
johnnybezakRobzulah: stop right now04:25
johnnybezakRobzulah: doing anything to that partition will probably result in you losing ALL DATA ON THE MAC OS partition04:25
mseneyRobzulah, backup your data before trying to install ubuntu!!!!!!!04:26
awtomlinsonwhy does my Show Desktop icon open the desktop folder in nautilus.  how can i make it actually show the desktop04:27
calchmm ubuntu probably can't resize it, but from what i read on debian-powerpc if you use a current daily sarge d-i cd and disable the journal it will allow you to resize it04:28
johnnybezakawtomlinson: the desktop folder is just another place showing your desktop contents, to see the desktop just minimse your windows04:28
awtomlinsonjohnnybezak, i know this.  when i previously had ubuntu installed, the Show Desktop icon actually showed the desktop, it didn't open the desktop folder in nautilus04:29
calcbut yes backing up your data is a good idea before doing anything major on a system04:29
awtomlinsonand yes, spatial nautilius is disabled04:29
=== Ouwt [~QdEpdLA@IGLD-84-228-70-128.inter.net.il] has joined #ubuntu
=== StoffBox-Steve [~steve@pD9E576B0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu
RobzulahWhat is daily sarge d-i?04:36
=== Marble2 [~Marble@CPE-24-163-214-72.mn.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== FenrisWolf [~chatzilla@ip68-99-22-187.om.om.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu
FenrisWolfhi all, can someone help me with a question04:37
calconly if you ask it...04:37
FenrisWolfI dont remember seeing the installer ask me for a root password at all04:37
FenrisWolfam I missing something?04:37
calcthere is no root login, you use sudo04:38
FenrisWolfok04:38
FenrisWolfthats what I thought04:38
calcthe account created during install is automatically added to the sudo file04:38
Robzulahhas anyone used the AOL dialer from Linsoft?04:39
=== tga represses the memory of ever using AOL
nomasteryodaRobzulah, i have it installed... dialer that is04:40
nomasteryodawas curious04:40
nomasteryodabut i dont even use the modem04:40
calctga: it was useful when used with aohell ;)04:40
FenrisWolfcalc: is there an X version of Aptitude?04:42
RobzulahWas it a free download?04:42
calcFenrisWolf: synaptic is similiar04:42
RobzulahUnfortuneatly, AOL is my only internet source right now04:42
=== calc notes FenrisWolf's nick sounds familiar somehow
FenrisWolfoh no, he found me out :)04:43
calcFenrisWolf: eh?04:43
FenrisWolfwhere do you think you have seen me before04:44
=== Thierry [~ubuntu@modemcable221.10-202-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu
=== hayden [~hayden@203-219-130-10-qld.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
calcFenrisWolf: not sure it has been a while if i have seen you, perhaps i just confused you with someone else04:44
=== zabilcm [~zabilcm@219.64.156.160] has joined #ubuntu
underdogguys, ubuntu hangs whenever it uses pcmcia04:45
underdogany ideas?04:45
calci'm primarily on freenode now though i used to be efnet all the time04:45
Thierryhey, in the daily build of march first, the windows at the bottom are very small... is there a bug for this?04:45
=== StoffBox-Steve [~steve@pD9E576B0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu
calcFenrisWolf: so do you know me? ;)04:46
FenrisWolfhehe, cant say I do04:46
FenrisWolfI am old as dirt though04:46
=== poxymox [~test@dsl-213-023-153-054.arcor-ip.net] has left #ubuntu ["CU"]
calcFenrisWolf: ah so you didn't use efnet long ago?04:47
=== cac9 [~cac9_@200.116.158.105] has joined #ubuntu
FenrisWolfI did04:47
calcFenrisWolf: erm #snes?04:48
FenrisWolffrom time to time I was in there04:48
calcFenrisWolf: ah that is where then04:48
calcFenrisWolf: i was in there for 4-5 years i think and in DC04:48
=== StoffBox-Steve [~steve@pD9E576B0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu
Marble2where are printers stored?>04:48
=== StoffBox-Steve [~steve@pD9E576B0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu
FenrisWolfI was in virginia04:49
=== awb4422 [~awb4422@grd0351.urh.uiuc.edu] has joined #ubuntu
calcFenrisWolf: ah i meant damaged cybernetics04:51
StoffBox-Stevekubuntu = Ubuntu + KDE , right or ?04:51
calcbefore i became a foss person ;)04:51
Marble2anyone know where printers are stored?04:52
tgaMarble2: I have one under my desk04:52
Marble2uh04:52
Marble2i mean i ubuntu ;p04:52
tgai ubuntu too :)04:52
Marble2in even04:52
raydogg``what utility should I run to format and partition a new drive ?04:52
Marble2what's the location of my printer so I can add it to my samba share04:52
calcraydogg``: fdisk and mkfs.(whatever)04:53
tgaraydogg``: cfdisk to partition it, mkfs.<fs type> to format04:53
haydeni most ubuntu04:53
johnnybezakwell im updating to hoary, the only thing that seems to be broken so far is firefox04:54
haydeni updated to hoary last night, i found that the cursor theme changed from the default ubnutu ones04:54
haydenand that when i tried to type # the english pound sign came up04:55
haydenso i had to change keyboard layout04:55
johnnybezakwhen i restart will it change to x.org?04:55
haydenmm04:55
johnnybezakbrb restarting x04:55
=== billytwowilly [~chris@S0106000c413a2c0c.ed.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== dr_willis [~willis@12-202-192-44.client.insightBB.com] has joined #Ubuntu
haydenwhat is the version of hoary?04:56
calc5.0404:56
calcgrumpy will be 5.1004:56
=== tga chuckles at the names
calchayden: its year.month04:57
haydenok04:57
calchoary releases in just over 1mo from now04:57
haydenok04:57
Thierryhayden, what is the command to upgrade to hoary? like apt-get what04:58
calcapt-get dist-upgrade04:58
calcyou have to edit the /etc/apt/sources.list file first though04:58
Thierryok thanks04:58
=== usual yawwwns
usualwhats up calc04:58
calcusual: not much, recovering from work :\04:59
haydenThierry, go to http://www.ubuntuguide.com and search for hoary and you will find how to do it04:59
Thierryok good04:59
=== calc hates his ~ 2-3hr day commute
usualcalc, I hear that man, long day here...just enjoying some gunniess04:59
usualcalc, you using hoary?05:00
calcusual: yea05:00
usualcalc, are you experiencing the laggy desktop?05:00
calcusual: not sure, what lags exactly?05:00
=== srid [~sridhar@srid.user] has joined #ubuntu
usualcalc, nothing major, just everything in X lag's...sluggish05:01
virtualdcalc: 1+205:01
calcwell repaint seems a bit slow05:01
calcvirtuald: 505:01
virtualdthanks mate05:01
sridBug in libapache2-mod-python2.4 !! -05:01
srid  File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/mod_python/apache.py", line 28, in ?05:01
srid    import _apache05:01
sridImportError: No module named _apache05:01
usualcalc, maybe thats what it is05:01
calcusual: if i drag things around on the screen i see a lot of trailing garbage05:01
calci don't recall that happening before05:02
usualcalc, yeah that05:02
usualcalc, just annoying05:02
haydencalc, how does shared folders work in hoary05:02
calchayden: no idea i haven't used them05:02
=== Quar [~Quarupt@c-67-170-1-214.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
haydenokj05:02
usualwb Quar05:02
Quarhrm05:03
Quaroh thats why05:03
=== VR^ [VR@154-111.200-68.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
Quarlol i was i cant identify05:03
usualheh05:03
=== tolstoy [~tolstoy@c-67-171-195-50.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== tolstoy [~tolstoy@c-67-171-195-50.client.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
=== Quar is now known as Quarupt
Quaruptusual thx again man05:04
usualnp man05:04
usual:)05:04
usualhope it works05:04
=== calc bbl
QuaruptI trusted ya to come on my system, and were very trustworthy05:04
Quaruptnow if i could only get mh fglrx working id be in heaven05:05
=== johnnybezak [~johnnybez@203-173-46-207.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu
usualfglrx?05:05
johnnybezakdone hoary is installed :)05:05
johnnybezakand alsa is working again, go figure :)05:05
QuaruptI cant believe all this time i thought i was Hoary i wasnt all the way my sources were still pointed at warty05:06
Quaruptgo figure05:06
Quaruptprobably why the fgrlx didnt work05:07
=== raghu [~raghu@203.145.183.210] has joined #ubuntu
tgaloool05:07
tgaway to go Quarupt05:07
Quarupttga, ya think i should try it again?05:07
=== tga wonders if this is really Linux or Windows
Quaruptlol05:07
=== JggGfO [~NcCqUa@IGLD-84-228-70-128.inter.net.il] has joined #ubuntu
QuaruptI know its so user friendly05:07
johnnybezakanyone know why mplayer is dependant on a package that doesnt exist in hoary05:08
=== heliolith [~michael@wbar21.lax1-4.26.216.34.lax1.dsl-verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu
sridworkin05:08
=== cbgb [~cbgb@24-90-47-224.nyc.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
tgajohnnybezak: look for the restricted formats page on the ubuntu site05:08
usualbrb05:08
Quaruptjohnnybezak, its not05:09
Quarupti have it05:09
Quaruptand im Hoary05:09
NetwrkMonkeyyup05:09
=== srid [~sridhar@srid.user] has left #ubuntu ["side-winding]
heliolithhello all: is anyone in here use a Spanish keyboard layout available via the Gnome gui preferences setup menu?  I can get the layout to switch, but the dang accent is backwards!05:09
=== scorpix [~scorpix@as17-161.qualitynet.net] has joined #ubuntu
johnnybezakppc?05:09
=== NetwrkMonkey [~Monkey@netwrkmonkey.user] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
Quarupttga is the fgrlx driver in any repositories you know?05:09
johnnybezaktga: yeah i dont mind installing it from somewhere else, but how do i tell apt that ive installed it from somewhere else05:09
=== JDahl [~qwerty@ca-stmnca-cuda4-gen2u1-63.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu
heliolithanyone remember the name of the ubuntu spanish channel?  is it ubuntu-es?05:10
Quarupttga, Cause i cant remeber where we got it05:10
=== sockler [~maxedout7@69-161-188-86.atlsfl.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu
heliolithusing the little panel to add accents while you're typing in another language is wayyyy too time consuming...05:11
=== blizah [~stephen@12-205-170-175.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu
sockleri made two partitions on my box and installed ubuntu on the second one, windows XP on the first, how do i get the dual boot option every time i start up??05:12
johnnybezakok in warty gnome-control-center brought up everything, now it only brings up desktop preferences how do i get it to show everything (im using flux not metacity, hence me needing to know how to get it from the console)05:13
=== NumPy [~NumPy@cpe-66-25-254-156.gt.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== BiteMeBill [~antiM$@oh-67-77-123-4.dyn.sprint-hsd.net] has joined #ubuntu
Quaruptwhere is gnome-control-center05:14
GammaRaysockler: edit /etc/grub/ment.lst05:14
GammaRaysockler: comment out hiddenmenu05:15
NumPyhello all05:15
=== packman_e [~packman@host-84-9-89-36.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu
packman_ehello all05:15
QuaruptThat was weird05:15
johnnybezakQuarupt: thats the programs command05:15
Quarupt<NumPy> hello all05:15
Quarupt--> packman_e (~packman@host-84-9-89-36.bulldogdsl.com) has joined #ubuntu05:15
Quarupt<packman_e> hello all05:15
johnnybezakQuarupt: to launch from the console05:16
Quaruptjohnnybezak, yea, but its not in any of the menu's?05:16
johnnybezakQuarapt: its probably called something like Control Center05:16
packman_ejust a quick question to kick things off. after installing ubuntu 4, how do you set a password for root please?05:16
NumPy..is there a dev channel for ubuntu05:16
socklerGammaRay: i cant even get to ubuntu, windows XP boots first, i looked in setup but didnt see anything about partitions05:16
=== mlh [~mlh@c211-30-62-11.belrs1.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
Quaruptpackman_e, sudu passwd, but iw ouldnt recomend it05:17
Quarupts/sudu/sudo05:17
packman_ewhy?05:17
Quaruptsudo is a security feature05:17
dr_willisits a bad habbit to use root that way.05:17
dr_willisis their logic05:17
dr_williswhen ya need to do rooty stuff. use that user and 'sudo whatever'05:18
packman_ei don't understand05:18
dr_willis"rooty stuff" :)05:18
Quaruptit does get annoting though, i also did sudo passwd05:18
Quaruptannoying05:18
packman_ei would have thought that it would be worse for root not to have a password05:18
dr_willispackman_e,  from a security point of view - you should NEVER login as root.   as a user that CAN do the sudo stuff.. do it that way05:18
GammaRaysockler: is ubuntu on a seperate hdd?05:18
=== tuxJr_14 [~arjun@203.94.200.34] has joined #ubuntu
tgaI do sudo su or sudo -s05:18
StoffBox-Stevesockler, have you set the Grub Bootloader to the partition and not to the MBR ?05:18
johnnybezakpackman_e: there is an faq on the website about this05:19
BiteMeBillYou can always use the root terminal and not enter the password all the time.05:19
tgasudo is useful in an environment where you're keeping track of who's doing what05:19
dr_willistga,  yea - theres that also :P05:19
usualnight05:20
usualgood luck Quarupt05:20
=== piratePenguin [1000@dialup0739.ts005.bmt.esat.net] has joined #ubuntu
packman_edr_willis, no, no i dont actually want to login as root, i just want to set the password so that i can set up stuff like networking05:20
piratePenguinwhat's the cool (easy to use) iptables script? I used it before, forgot the name05:21
=== Dreamer3_ [~unknown@sdn-ap-010tnnashP0261.dialsprint.net] has joined #ubuntu
dr_willispackman_e,  you can do all that with 'sudo'  once ya learn how :P05:21
StoffBox-Stevewhen it ask a root PW . than simple use your UserPW packman_e :D05:21
BiteMeBillpackman_e: then password that you set during install is the password you use with sudo.05:21
dr_willispackman_e,  of course ya can alwyas do 'sudo passwd' and set the root users password and be done with it.05:21
dr_willisthe inital users password is also the root/sudo password.05:21
packman_ehmmm. that has confused me.05:22
packman_ewhay does the system do that?05:22
dr_willispackman_e,  how else wold you have it do that?05:23
=== drspin [~cole@ip68-2-123-172.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #Ubuntu
dr_willisit asks for the main users password.. and sets that as the default sudo password also.. simple. :P05:23
delltonyquestion what needs to be edited to change  your gobal font sizes in kde? i have 20/20 vision but this 5pt font is killing my eyes :(05:23
drspinwhat's a good id3 tag editor that will organize my folders????05:24
=== hub [~hub@H194.C231.tor.velocet.net] has joined #ubuntu
hubhi05:24
uMkuluhi, hub05:24
hubdoes ubuntu support booting with a AHA 2940-UW SCSI controller ?05:24
Marble2when I get rpms from rpmfind.net what version should I get them for05:24
Marble2if ubuntu isn't listed05:25
dr_willisHmm05:25
dr_willisubuntu uses rpms ? i dident think so05:25
drspinhub... I have that scsi controller on my other system05:25
dr_willisor am i confused here..05:25
StoffBox-SteveMarble2, ubuntu using Deb not rpm05:25
drspindr_willis: it uses DEB as opposed to RPM05:25
tgaMarble2: you generally don't get rpms for Ubuntu05:25
hubdrspin: I either get /dev/sda2 not found or linuxrc crashing05:25
Marble2oh05:25
Marble2ok05:25
drspinhub -- did you install ubuntu from a SCSI cd drive??05:25
hubdrspin: no05:25
drspinI had to or it wouldn't configure right...05:25
dr_willisdrspin,  yea - heh heh - i thogh so.. :P  but i test out sooo many different disrtos..05:25
hubdrspin: it is IDE05:26
packman_edr_willis, just to let you guys know that i am a newbie, but i tried fedora and that one gets you to set a root passowrd at install as well as a user password and when you need to do admin tasks you type in 'su -' then the root password or when using a graphical tool it would ask you for a root password and you would type it in05:26
StoffBox-Stevewhen you need stuff simple try > apt-cache search Programm05:26
hubdrspin: maybe I should try the SCSI burner instead05:26
StoffBox-Steveand than apt-get install Programm05:26
drspinhub: that's exactly what I did --05:26
drspinhub: :)05:26
=== drspin [~cole@ip68-2-123-172.ph.ph.cox.net] has left #Ubuntu []
hubif I can boot from it05:26
dr_willispackman_e,  the idea of 'su -' is condisdred a security  issue..  Yea i know its how allthe OTHER disrtos default to doing it.. but its still a issue.. and the ubuntu guys are very PARANOID about security.05:27
packman_eoh ok05:27
socklerGamma: still with me?  no, ubuntu and windows XP is on the same hd05:27
packman_esorry i did'nt know05:27
socklerthe problem is that only windows boots, i want to be able to choose which one05:28
=== Tjdw [~tjdw@pcp0010779594pcs.walngs01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
dr_willisactually most all the Disrots are begining to get more and more paranid about security.. which is good I guess. :P05:28
GammaRaysockler: where did you install the ubuntu bootloader(grub)?05:28
socklerwhere the first partition is05:29
socklerwherever that is05:29
packman_edr_willis, if you don't mind, how is it a security issue using su - over sudo please?05:29
virtualddr_willis: s/Disrots/OSes/05:30
haydenwhat would i have to install to be able to compile programs in c?05:30
GammaRaysockler: it should be installed on the MBR. that's what your bios loads05:30
virtualdhayden: build-essential05:31
uMkulubuild-essential is a package alias for install all the tools needed to compile source on debian based systems05:31
haydenok thanks05:31
socklerGammaRay: when i get to the MBR, i should have to choice which OS to boot from?05:31
dr_willispackman_e,  therea a faq on it i think at the ubuntu site. :P05:31
=== Quarupt [~Quarupt@c-67-170-1-214.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
dr_willisyou normally dont want a 'root' shell. where you could accidently type the wrong command it the basics I guess.05:32
Quaruptis there a way to put like a 10 second delay on an onjoin command in Xchat?05:32
GammaRaysockler: yes *if* you install the boot loader on the MBR, otherwise windows's bootloader is still there doing what it always did05:32
hubkernelpnaic in linuxrc at boot05:33
hubany idea ?05:33
hubshall I try a SuSE ?05:33
hub:-/05:33
=== hub is kidding
Quaruptspound like HW probs to me05:34
delltonyhow do you change the gtk-theme please?05:34
socklerGamma: well i installed ubuntu first, then XP second, so would the XP bootload overwrite GRUB??05:34
dr_willisyes sock it would.05:34
virtualdhub: what are the messages above "kernel panic"?05:34
=== TongMaster [~TongMaste@home.waugh.id.au] has joined #ubuntu
QuaruptHrm i guess not05:35
QuaruptXchat is boring05:35
Quarupti wanna new client05:35
=== linux_galore [~linux_gal@60-240-64-99-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has left #ubuntu []
Quaruptor to customize this one maybe ill go look at some scripts05:35
dr_willisQuarupt,  go get irssi :P05:35
socklerhmm so i guess i have to reinstall ubuntu...will GRUB overwrite the XP bootload?05:35
hubvirtuald: I don't know because it display a stacktrace05:35
virtualdB] ] 05:35
hubvirtuald: making eveything taking the screen05:35
GammaRaysockler: see this http://people.ubuntulinux.org/~mako/ubuntu-traffic/u20041203_15.html#405:35
hubvirtuald: but I think it is "loading Linux...."05:35
hubvirtuald: it booted once and said it couldn't find /dev/sda2 (probably the swap)05:36
virtualdheh, well it's above my level05:36
hubvirtuald: it is unusual05:36
hubit is a quite old machine, no fancy hardware05:36
=== dash [washort@adsl-220-215-184.bhm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu
huband install goes smoothly with the boot CD-ROM05:36
virtualdM'Kay05:36
socklerGamma: thank you very much, one last q: is my ubuntu root device a /?05:37
=== Doomgaze [~Doomgaze@d149-67-229-91.try.wideopenwest.com] has joined #ubuntu
hubmy is a 4.10 Install CD05:37
virtualddid you try with a 2.4 or 2.2 kernel? :)05:37
dashsomeone help me out here. is the next version after hoary going to be Grumpy Groundhog, or Bendy Badger? i have seen both on the wiki :)05:37
virtualdthat might work better for old hardware05:37
hubvirtuald: I didn't. I don't have the choice at boot time05:37
dr_willisdash,  I thinkits going to be Hammy Hampster05:38
hubvirtuald: only 2.605:38
virtualdok05:38
dashdr_willis: I was hoping for Snarky Sandhog.05:38
GammaRaysockler: that depends on where it is on the ide cable, and which interface it's on05:38
haydenwhats the difference of dir and ls05:38
socklerhow would i determine that?05:38
=== Quarupt [~Quarupt@c-67-170-1-214.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
dr_willisdash,  i dont even know what a SandHog is. :P and i watch ANimalPlanet all the time.05:38
dashhayden: dir just runs ls with different options05:38
haydenok05:38
=== jeavis [~jeavis@201.128.232.108] has joined #ubuntu
GammaRaysockler: /dev/hda is primary master, hdb pri. slave, hdc secondary master, hdd sec. slave05:39
dashdr_willis: http://www.yourdictionary.com/ahd/s/s0063800.html ;-)05:39
hubso I'm boned05:40
jeavishello what patition software I can use from boot05:40
socklerGamma: alright mine would be hda then.... thanks a whole lot05:40
dr_willis A laborer who works inside a caisson  --- ok.. now whats a Caisson :P05:40
GammaRaysockler: you also need the partiton number...05:40
dashjeavis: the thingy on the install cd is probably your best bet05:40
GammaRaysockler: /dev/hda1 would be the first partition05:40
=== jba [~jba@c211-30-145-155.blktn3.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
=== jesus__ [~jesus@165.127-200-80.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu
jeavisdash: I have problems with a machine, is so strange, I use my ubuntu cdrom05:41
sockleryeah i got that05:41
socklerthanks :-)05:41
=== SiRrUs [~SiRrUs@HSE-MTL-ppp77407.qc.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu
jeavisdash: I need a partition program from boot05:41
dashjeavis: i don't understand what you mean "from boot", exactly. the install CD is bootable, and includes a partition program05:42
blizahwhats the open source alternative to excel?05:42
blizahlotus?05:42
farruinnjeavis: if you're just installing ubuntu it will walk you through what you need to do05:43
dashblizah: openoffice calc probably05:43
dashit's what i use05:43
blizahwhat about autocad?05:43
blizahknow of any?05:43
dashmmm, nope05:43
=== bradg [~brad@12-216-228-198.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu
farruinnblizah: openoffice is most like excel, but there is also gnumeric if you wish05:43
=== tga gives ooffice2 a try
jbahow to install oofice2?05:44
=== knucks [~chatzilla@pcp01189996pcs.waldlk01.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
knucksGUYS05:44
jeavisfarruin: I need a software that partition from boot05:44
knucksi need serious help05:44
=== TongMaster [~TongMaste@home.waugh.id.au] has joined #ubuntu
=== bradg [~brad@12-216-228-198.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu
StoffBox-Steveopenoffice 2 per apt-get done ?05:44
farruinnjeavis: "from boot" as in the install CD, LiveCD, or harddrive?05:44
knuckswho can PM me and can help me with all my problems?05:45
=== delltony [~delltony@c-24-99-11-118.atl.client2.attbi.com] has joined #ubuntu
dashknucks: for how much money?-)05:45
farruinnknucks: that's not the best way to get help05:45
knuckslol05:45
knucksok well i need some help then05:45
farruinnknucks: just ask your questions here, if people know the answers they will help05:45
LinuxJonesknucks, rolf05:45
tuxJr_14jba: apt-get install openoffice05:45
knucksall right05:45
knuckswell i tried getting mp3 support on my copy of ubuntu05:45
knucksto no avail05:45
knucksrhythmbox freezes when i try to play an mp305:46
scorpixjba: apt-get install openoffice.org205:46
knucksand then i tried installing xmms (which i think I did) but i dont know how to launch it05:46
tgagah ooffice2 is fugly05:46
jeavisfarruinn: yes as install cd05:46
tgascorpix: not yet, openoffice 1 is still nicer05:46
blizahi just installed ubuntu yesterday, is ati catalyst for linux easy to install?05:46
kingsley_Is there an application which renders 3d text like gltext, but which also allows you to choose the text's orientation and font/05:47
knucksso my question is, how do i launch xmms and put it on my panel?05:47
farruinnjeavis: the installer uses parted05:47
dashknucks: are you using hoary?05:47
=== j-rock [~joe@c68.187.89.125.eau.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu
knucksi dont know?05:47
dashwait never mind05:47
knuckshow do i check05:47
knucksim new to the whole linux thing all together05:47
dashokay, if you were you'd know :)05:47
dashno big deal05:47
socklerhttp://people.ubuntulinux.org/~mako/ubuntu-traffic/u20041203_15.html#4 ... what does /target stand for??05:48
=== Ivy6Quaff [~Sir@c906a0a6.virtua.com.br] has joined #ubuntu
tgablizah: apt-cache search fglrx05:48
blizahk05:48
LinuxJonesubuntu-artwork package is broken ??05:48
knucksso can you help me then?05:48
StoffBox-Steveapt-get install openoffice.org2 << update OF1.3 or is it a new install ?05:48
=== yli [~yli@61.150.117.176] has joined #ubuntu
tgaopenoffice.org2 is fugly and it's still in beta, use ooffice 105:49
dashknucks: for the first test, the easiest thing to do is just to hit 'Run' on the applications menu05:49
tuxJr_14hey, why dont we make a qt/xdialog/xmessege/gtk based installer for ubuntu?05:49
dashknucks: and type in xmms05:49
speeli think all software ( not security updates ) updates are on freeze or somthing05:49
blizahtga are the three fglrx the things i install for a radeon 9800 pro?...and do i still download ati's catalyst?05:49
tgatuxJr_14: you go ahead and write one05:49
scorpixStoffBox-Steve: it'll install OOo2 without removing OOo105:49
tuxJr_14it wont be tough.05:49
tuxJr_14but will be heavy05:49
dashtga: it's only fugly if you don't have the gtk integration :)05:49
=== Dreamer3_ is now known as Dreamer3
farruinntuxJr_14: the installer is text based to save room on the disc05:50
StoffBox-Stevethx scorpix :) thats the info i want05:50
farruinnat least to my knowledge05:50
knucksdash: nope nothing05:50
tgablizah: as far as I know you only get the fglrx kernel module and driver.. it should just work05:50
StoffBox-Stevesure tga whats why i ask :)05:50
tgadash: I got the -gnome package but I'm not sure what to do with it.. I'm getting the win32 look with the crappy icons05:50
dashknucks: Hmm. Not even an error message? Interesting05:50
dashtga: yeah, i got that originally05:50
knucksit seems like it does something but nothing launches05:50
tuxJr_14knuck: are you using the downloaded iso or the shipped cd?05:50
=== Greendah [~greendah@oh-69-69-242-4.dyn.sprint-hsd.net] has joined #ubuntu
knucksshipped cd..but it updated a whole lot once i installed05:51
tgadash: so what did you do to it?05:51
blizahtga, fglrx-control, fglrx-driver, and fglrx-driver-dev are what popuped up when i searched under syanptic05:51
blizahinstall all three?05:51
dashtga: it got fixed when i installed -gnome05:51
tgablizah: I think you need the fglrx-driver and the linux-restricted-modules for your kernel05:51
dashknucks: Truly odd05:51
dashknucks: do other sounds play?05:51
knucksum05:51
knucksi dont think so05:51
tuxJr_14farruinn, that's what05:51
knuckswhere can i check05:52
dashknucks: Do you get sounds when you login?05:52
knucksno i dont believe so05:52
tgablizah: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto05:52
tuxJr_14tga, i'm already working on one. i'm still planning on how to go about it and which widget to use.05:52
dashknucks: okay, then mp3s are not your main problem, i bet05:52
knuckslet me try tho05:52
haydenhow do i compile a c program?05:52
knucksi still cant get xmms working05:52
tgatuxJr_14: use Athena.. they're great!05:52
dashhayden: one you wrote?05:52
speelhayden: gcc program.c -o programname05:52
knucksand rhythmbox doesnt play anything...05:52
=== ells [~steve@69-171-247-27.clspco.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu
knucksso i dont want to use it05:52
=== hub [~hub@H194.C231.tor.velocet.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
knucksi want to get rid of rhythbox and use xmms05:52
blizahtga, k tnx05:53
haydenyea05:53
dashknucks: well, it looks like this isn't a rhythmbox problem05:53
haydenok05:53
knucksok05:53
tuxJr_14tga: i dont know athena. who is she? ;-)05:53
karstenAnyone got a package count for Warty?05:53
tgaimho Ubuntu should reuse the SuSE installer, if it's GPLd05:53
speelpackage count?05:53
=== keez [t7DS@200.164.150.139] has joined #ubuntu
=== karsten is not at an ubuntu system ATM.
tgatuxJr_14: Athena is a really nice and portable widget set05:53
dashtga: bwahahaha05:53
keezsomeone help-me please05:53
tuxJr_14tga, it is. it's already being used by SCO also.05:53
keezi need help wiht ubuntu05:54
karstenkeez: ask.05:54
dashtuxJr_14: what! motif is _clearly_ superior05:54
tuxJr_14tga: is it easy to learn?05:54
farruinnwouldn't a graphical installer require an X server?05:54
keezi need to configurate a dsl conection in my ubuntu05:54
dashfarruinn: No.05:54
knucksdash: what should i do?05:54
dashknucks: Hmm05:54
tuxJr_14farruinn, that's a yes and a no05:54
tgatuxJr_14: yeah, this will be great.. the only installer using Athena that I know of is the old Solaris one05:55
karstenkeez: You got a DSL modem or router?05:55
farruinntuxJr_14, dash: heh, ok I'm too tired to ask more about that =)05:55
keezdsl modem05:55
uMkuludsl modem is connected to my machine via cat cable and not USB correct?05:55
tgatuxJr_14: it's professional stuff05:55
karstenkeez: It provides DHCP?05:55
knucksand permissions give me a headache..but dont get me started on that05:55
keezi think yes05:55
tuxJr_14tga: can you elaborate?05:55
knucksi at least want to get something accomplished tonight..05:55
tuxJr_14farruinn, we can also use ggi or fbdev05:56
tgatuxJr_14: I'd rather not05:56
karstenkeez: Control Panel.  Network config.  Set up a DHCP connection for your ethernet card.05:56
farruinnknucks: permissions protect you from yourself05:56
=== IvyCQHome [~Sir@c906a0a6.virtua.com.br] has joined #ubuntu
knuckslol05:56
keezonly this?05:56
dashknucks: okay so!05:56
knucksI'm all ears05:56
keezi think yes05:56
karstenknucks: Don't laugh, he's not kidding.05:56
dashknucks: go to file manager (look in applications -> system tools)05:56
tgaI don't think there's anything in the world to protect knucks from himself05:56
karstenCould someone provide me a package count for Warty?05:56
dashknucks: and go to /usr/share/sounds05:56
=== Slaggy [~Slaggy@ip68-110-22-134.om.om.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu
speelkarsten: lol alot?05:57
dashfarruinn: there's a version of gtk that runs in the framebuffer05:57
knucksdash: um..i dont see it?05:57
tgakarsten: # apt-cache search " " |wc -l05:57
tga1602105:57
dashknucks: sorry, File Browser05:57
keezkarsten, its a speedstream 5200, do you know?05:57
tgakarsten: this is Hoary though05:57
=== dr_willis [~willis@12-202-192-44.client.insightBB.com] has left #Ubuntu ["Leaving"]
dashknucks: and type /usr/share/sounds in the location box05:57
farruinndash: ah, I see05:57
blizahsudo apt-get install linux-686 if you haven't already.or -k7 or -686-smp or -386... whatever matches your kernel.           my question is which matches my kernal05:57
tuxJr_14is there any ggi based xdialog kinda stuff available in ubuntu repository05:58
karstenspeel: grep ^Package: /var/lib/apt/lists/*_Packages | wc -l05:58
blizahim a big n00b05:58
tgablizah: you mean linux-image-68605:58
knucksdash: thats not there as well05:58
karstentga: I'm not on a ubuntu box05:58
=== jesus\ [~jesus_@165.127-200-80.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu
haydenwhat packages do i need to install for compiling c programs05:58
tgakarsten: I just gave you a rough estimate of Hoary05:58
karstentga: Woah.  That's more than I'd've thought.05:58
dashknucks: Ah, drat, i'm using a different version of ubuntu from you. sorry05:58
karstentga: You got Universe or whatever it is in there?05:58
speelapt-get install build-essential* or just get the gcc compiler05:59
knucksok hold on let me go to that folder tho05:59
karstenkeez: Shouldn't really matter.05:59
Marble2Okay, can someone help me out? I've had this problem for a while and no one has been able to help me :(. I don't have any sound in vlc under linx. I get these errors when I open a video file05:59
blizahtga, thats just what that web site says...how do i know which matches my kernal05:59
tgakarsten: that's the problem, it depends on what sources you use05:59
Marble2[00000217]  mpeg_audio decoder: MPGA channels:2 samplerate:48000 bitrate:19205:59
knucksusr/share/sounds u said?05:59
tgablizah: what are you trying to do again?05:59
Marble2 [00000219]  oss audio output error: cannot open audio device (/dev/dsp/)05:59
karstentga: Yeah.  Stock sources.05:59
keezoh god05:59
blizahtga ati drivers05:59
Marble2I googled for the oss error (which seems to be the root of the problem) and basically what I got was people saying "I reverted to 0.7 or I updated my distro and it worked" or other ranom things05:59
dashknucks: OK cool05:59
farruinnMarble2: vlc is trying to use the sound device directly, you need to configure it to use esd or kill esd05:59
tgablizah: uname -a to get your kernel version05:59
karstentga: the case I'm trying to make is that Debian's got ~17.5k packages, Ubuntu slims that down a lot.05:59
knucksok im in it05:59
farruinnMarble2: at least that's my guess05:59
tgablizah: uname -r really, but -a looks better05:59
keezi thin i never use ubuntu linux whith my dsl connection06:00
blizahtga hehe06:00
Marble2I tried killing esd earlier and that didn't work06:00
Marble2someone told me to do that06:00
tgakarsten: maybe they can't/won't maintain all of the debian packages06:00
Marble2what exactly does esd do06:00
keezthis is a sh****06:00
Marble2and how would I try to configure it to use esd?06:00
dashMarble2: i usually do "esdctl off"06:00
dashand then "esdctl on" when done06:00
farruinnMarble2: esd = enlightenment sound daemon, allows multiple applications to use the sound device06:00
farruinnat least that's my understanding06:01
knucksdash: i can play the .wav files06:01
=== Slaggy [~Slaggy@ip68-110-22-134.om.om.cox.net] has left #ubuntu []
dashknucks: well, okay06:01
Marble2ok06:01
dashthat's a first step06:01
karstentga: http://archives.seul.org/schoolforge/discuss/Mar-2005/msg00010.html06:01
tgathe Ubuntu drums gave me quite a scare earlier.. I had my speakers turned up when I logged in06:01
Marble2dash: what does that do?06:01
karstentga: Crack-smoking fiend an a bender.  Makes a semi-sound claim that there's too much stuff in Linux.06:02
keezim from brazil06:02
knucksso how do i get xmms to work06:02
dashkarsten: ha ha "educators"06:02
keezim not undertanding very well what you say06:02
tgakarsten: there _is_ too much stuff in most distros06:02
dashknucks: well first, what comes up when you double click on a wav file? totem?06:02
keezmy english is poor06:02
farruinnknucks: probably an esd thing again - in preferences make sure the output plugin is eSound06:03
tgakarsten: in most default installs I should say06:03
knucksif thats the movie player, then yes06:03
karstendash: I'm not proud of it, but here's my first response to his stuff: http://archives.seul.org/schoolforge/discuss/Mar-2005/msg00008.html06:03
dashknucks: OK right06:03
karstendash: I'm starting to realize I'm never going to get this hour of my life back....06:03
karstentga: Not the way *I* install Debian there's not ;-)06:03
dashknucks: so i'd try dragging an mp3 file onto that and seeing if it will play it06:03
farruinnknucks: you'll have to install a plugin to play mp3's with xmms I believe06:03
knuckshm ok..06:03
dashkarsten: yes, 5 years of irc has taught me "always avoid arguments with timewasting morons"06:04
knucksfarruinn: i cant even start xmms06:04
tgakarsten: that doesn't give you a customized desktop either06:04
knucksas it didnt come w/ ubuntu, i had to download it..06:04
farruinnknucks: with apt-get or synaptic?06:04
knucksand i installed it but it wont start06:04
karstentga: The hell it doesn't.  I've got my very own tuned, customized console.06:04
knucksum06:04
knucksaptget06:04
karstentga: It's got screen, vim, and w3m, just like it should ;-)06:04
tgagood luck browsing with w3m in the console.. I'll let you know when the 80s are over06:05
karstendash: My objective is to do a moderately convincing job of demonstrating that he's utterly loony.  Hopefully to forget about it evermore.06:05
=== delltony [~delltony@c-24-99-11-118.atl.client2.attbi.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== jah [1000@cpc4-mfld3-4-0-cust215.nott.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== tga gets a sudden urge to do something useful
=== jah is now known as jah_
tgahappy flaming folks06:06
karstentga: Works amazingly well, actually.  Mind, once I've fleshed stuff out, wmaker goes on.06:06
Xenguytga: w3m actually does graphics, if you want -- it's a bit of fun :-)06:06
knucksso can someone help me get xmms working?06:06
karstenXenguy: Truth.  So does links ;-)06:06
jah_Hello all06:06
dashkarsten: it's a lost cause, the incentive structure in american gov't education is totally backwards06:06
jah_I cannot get X to load. I have tried: xf86config pkgreconfigure xserver-xfree86 (sp?) xfree86 -configure modprobe nvidia06:06
karstendash: There's islands of hope.  I'm working with a school ATM has a lab set up with six, soon to be seven, Linux  boxes.06:06
Xenguykarsten: I run wmaker also - that's 2 things we agree on :-)06:07
farruinnknucks: it should be in the multimedia menu or whatever06:07
dashknucks: anyhow, does totem play mp3s?06:07
jah_When i try to startx it says "(EE) No devices Found" Followed by "no screen found"06:07
jah_ And X server fails to load.06:07
dashjah_: what video hardware?06:07
knucksdash: yes06:07
farruinnknucks: if not hit alt+F2 and type xmms06:07
jah_GeForce 6800gt06:07
dashknucks: Okay cool! that's a first step06:07
karstendash: Mixed distros -- MDK, RH, SuSE, Deb, Ubuntu.  And the facilitator's gung ho to try LTSP06:07
karstenXenguy: Dig.06:07
jah_Mandrake (Xfree?) and Slackware (Xorg) both work fine :(06:07
knucksso i have the mp3 plugin on my kernel..06:08
=== hitriko-sama [hitriko@cpe-24-175-244-197.gt.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
knucksnow to get the actual xmms working06:08
knucksi cant even start it06:08
hitriko-samacan i install ubnutu without burning the iso to cd06:09
dashknucks: well, mp3 isn't in your kernel :) totem uses a media framework called gstreamer, and its mp3 support appears to work06:09
knucksbah06:09
knucksok..well06:09
dashknucks: anyway i would try opening a terminal and starting xmms from inside it06:09
knucksdash: i did apt-get xmms and it told me its already installed06:09
dashjust to see if it prints anything amazing06:09
knucksso i know i have it..06:09
karstenHrm.  Looks like Ubuntu includes "essentially all of the packages available in the Debian repositories".  But the installer has a pre-tuned subset?06:09
=== hou5ton [~hou5ton@n14-99-152-206.tranquility.net] has joined #ubuntu
hitriko-sama...? can i install ubuntu without having a cd? like install it off of my computer?06:10
=== blizah [~stephen@12-205-170-175.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu
jah_dash, any ideas?06:10
knucksdash: how do i open xmms from the terminal?06:10
hitriko-sama.............06:10
Xenguyknucks: type -> xmms   ?06:10
knucksok did that06:10
knucksthis is what i get:06:10
=== Xenguy prepares for a flood...
dashknucks: type 'xmms'06:11
knuckslibmikmod.so.2: cannot open shared object file: no such file or directory06:11
knucksand theit goes on to say more..06:11
=== SiRrUs [~SiRrUs@HSE-MTL-ppp77407.qc.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu
=== bradb [~bradb@modemcable065.154-81-70.mc.videotron.ca] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
dashknucks: http://rafb.net/paste06:11
Xenguyknucks: what output does this give -> dpkg -l libmikmod206:12
Xenguy?06:12
knucksdpkg: unknown option -106:12
Xenguyknucks: 'ell', not 'one' :-)06:13
hitriko-samacan i install ubnutu without burning the iso to cd06:13
knucksoh hah06:13
knucksum06:13
knucksdesired=unknown/install/remove/purge/hold06:13
SiRrUsgood evening06:13
knucksstatus=not/installed/config-files/unpacked06:13
=== duncanm [~duncan@peabody.ximian.com] has joined #ubuntu
duncanmi want to use Sound Juicer, but it doesn't make mp3s06:13
knucksoh /failed-config/Half-installed06:14
duncanmis there anything i can do about that?06:14
jah_ok no1 can help here either? :/06:14
Marble2by default, where is my sound card located06:14
jah_ /dev/dsp06:14
dashknucks: the first two letters of the last line are the important part06:15
knuckshttp://rafb.net/paste/results/sK9kRW13.html06:15
dashknucks: it probably either says 'pn' or 'ii'06:15
andy__say i have button one, button two, and button three (no scroll wheel).  how would i go about writing a config entry (or something) to scroll whenever i hold down button 3, and move the mouse up or down?06:15
Xenguyknucks: apt-get install libmikmod206:15
knucksE: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)06:16
=== duncanm [~duncan@peabody.ximian.com] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
knucksE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?06:16
Xenguyknucks: sudo06:16
=== Errejo [~errejo@v087b.studby.ntnu.no] has joined #ubuntu
=== packman_e [~packman@host-84-9-89-36.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu
packman_ehello all06:16
knucksugh i knew that..06:16
Xenguyknucks: sudo apt-get install libmikmod206:16
knucksok06:16
knucksdid that06:16
=== VR^ [VR@154-111.200-68.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
knucksxmms loaded06:17
knucksnow how do i put it in my panel?06:17
packman_ejust figured out why the ubuntu website took ages to load06:17
packman_emy bastard internet reset itself06:17
packman_ei started to wonder when i was the only one in the room talking to myself for 10 minutes06:18
blizahive installed the ati control pannel to use for dual monitors but where is the file to run it?06:18
Marble2how can I configure esd?06:18
Quaruptwell i spent all that time getting gaim-vv to work and now i lost the ability to send files via msn06:19
blizahive done a whereis and it said was in /user/share/fglxr but theres only a file called diversions in there with one file06:19
knucksok06:19
knucksyaya06:19
knucksxmms works06:19
knucksnow how do i throw it up in the panel?06:19
Errejoknucks, create a launcher06:19
knuckshow06:19
=== gnum4n [~jason@blk-222-50-94.eastlink.ca] has joined #ubuntu
dashknucks: well06:19
=== sahin_h [~sahin@69.238-182-adsl-pool.axelero.hu] has joined #ubuntu
dashknucks: is it not on the Sound & Video menu?06:20
knucksnope06:20
=== OrangeSlice [~orange@dsl-12-160-171-167.elltel.net] has joined #ubuntu
SiRrUshave you logged out and back in06:20
dashyou shouldn't have to06:20
SiRrUsyep at times you do06:20
=== orospakr [~orospakr@CPE0004762b7051-CM001225701f0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu
knucksill try it later06:21
Marble2does anyone have the homepage for esd? I can't find it in google06:21
knuckscan you guys please help me real quick w/ firefox?06:21
blizahnevermind i found it06:21
=== bretzel [~felix@modemcable128.237-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu
Xenguyknucks: ambitious, aren't we? :-)06:21
knucksvery06:21
Xenguyhehe06:21
dashknucks: anyway, to add a launcher just right click on the panel and click "add to panel"06:21
knucksahh ok06:21
knucksill try that tomorrow06:22
SiRrUsMarble2 type esd in your browser it should show you the home page06:22
knucksi want to get firefox working so i can sleep well06:22
Xenguyknucks: does FF not "just work" ?06:22
knucksi have firefox .9 right now..and i download 1.006:22
knuckshow do i "upgrade"06:22
Marble2electrostatic discharge association?06:23
Xenguyknucks: what command did you use to "download 1.0" ?06:23
knucksi got it off mozilla.org06:23
SiRrUsisnt there more to choose from Marble206:23
Xenguyknucks: you should use 'apt-get'06:23
StoffBox-SteveXenguy, downlaod it over the website06:23
ljlaneMarble2, it's easy to find as "esound", but Eric hasn't touched it in years. I think the GNOME folks are updating it these days.06:23
knuckswhat do i type in to get it by aptget?06:23
Xenguyknucks: apt-get update ; apt-get install <packagename>06:23
Xenguyknucks: er, prepend 'sudo' to that06:24
knucksyeh..06:24
knucksso06:24
knuckssudo apt-get firefox-1.0.1 ?06:24
Marble2ljlane: are there any viable alternatives other than esd?06:24
StoffBox-Steveknucks, unpack the it, than install the where you what and set it up as the standart browser06:24
Xenguyknucks: do -> dpkg -l *firefox*06:24
Xenguyknucks: that should tell you the package to apt-get06:24
StoffBox-Steveknucks, unpack it, than install it where you what,  than set it up as the standart browser  << look better ..06:24
Quaruptanyone have a webcam, i wanna test this gaim-vv see if it was worth all the rouble06:24
dashmmpht06:24
dashXenguy: aptitude is more fun06:25
ljlaneMarble2: alsa with the dmix plug-in is nice06:25
Xenguydash: for you perhaps ;-)06:25
StoffBox-SteveQuarupt, gaim-vv .. get it over apt ? ...06:25
=== sbrennan [~sbrennan@pool-141-152-177-237.norf.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu
knucksknucks@knucks:~ $ dpkg -l *firefox*06:25
knucksNo packages found matching firefox-1.0.1.installer.tar.gz.06:25
=== sbrennan is now known as `shane
dashyeah, not so good of an idea06:25
Errejothis is pretty nice for newbies btw : http://www.ubuntuguide.org/06:25
dashknucks: the package name is mozilla-firefox06:25
packman_ecan anyone reccomend a good linux tutorial or linux book please06:25
StoffBox-Steveknucks, you run warty or hoary ?06:25
Xenguyknucks: change to a different directory, then re-run the 'dpkg' command06:25
uMkuluXenguy: that doesn't look right06:25
knuckshell if i know06:26
XenguyuMkulu: ?06:26
uMkului don't know, xenguy06:26
=== ironwolf [~ironwolf@c-24-6-169-124.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
dashknucks: if you installed it off a CD and have not edited /etc/apt/sources.list, it is warty :)06:26
XenguyuMkulu: bot?06:26
uMkuluit has been said that bot is refusing to co-operate06:26
dashXenguy: no06:26
dashXenguy: * doesn't work like you think it does06:26
knucksknucks@knucks:/ $ dpkg -l *firefox*06:26
knucksDesired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold06:26
knucks| Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed06:26
knucks|/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)06:26
Xenguydash: sigh06:26
knucks||/ Name           Version        Description06:26
knucks+++-==============-==============-============================================06:26
knucksii  mozilla-firefo 0.99+1.0PR.1+r lightweight web browser based on Mozilla06:26
=== sigglet [~sigglet@208.187.169.233] has joined #ubuntu
=== zorba64 [~michael31@dsl-214.131.240.220.lns02-wick-bne.dsl.comindico.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
dashknucks: well there you go, it's already installed06:27
Xenguyknucks: apt-get update ; apt-get install mozilla-firefox06:27
Xenguydash: he wants to upgrade06:27
StoffBox-SteveXenguy, when he run warty, the last version of firefox for him is 0.9.3 .. 1.0.1 is not for warty ( wasnt for a few days :D )06:28
Xenguyknucks: er, sudo etc. etc.06:28
dashXenguy: yeah but he's running warty, and AFAICT that's the latest06:28
XenguyStoffBox-Steve: ahh, OK (I'm not actually on an Ubu box right ATM :-)06:28
knucksthis is all great and all, but what do i do?06:28
Xenguydash: nod06:28
knuckslol06:28
Xenguyknucks: hey, my main box is debian -- what can I do ;-)06:29
Quaruptanyone know what port(s) the remote desktop app in hoary uses? theres no way to change it so i just wanna know what the default is?06:29
knucksso how do i upgrade to 1.0.106:29
StoffBox-Steveknucks, just unpack it than go to the floder ( per console ) and > sh firefox.bin ( think ) what i look06:29
Xenguyknucks: StoffBox-Steve is suggesting wait for a few days for the package to come down the pipe :-)06:29
knuckslol06:29
StoffBox-Steveknucks, you cant upgrade firefox to 1.0.1 on warty over apt-get .. but wait :D06:30
Xenguyknucks: or you could *gasp* upgrade to hoary (and risk breaking all kinds of things -- fun, fun ;-)06:30
knucksyeh i got the gz file06:31
knucksi extracted it06:31
Quaruptanyone?06:31
Quaruptanyone?06:31
Quaruptanyone know what port(s) the remote desktop app in hoary uses? theres no way to change it so i just wanna know what the default is?06:31
StoffBox-Stevewell a real hell, upgrade the frist time kill my whole system .. set up new and upgrade it again .. work *puhh* i was so happy :D06:31
Quaruptoops sorry didnt mean to repeat06:31
knucksgn06:31
knuckshm06:31
knucksi guess ill wait then06:31
Quaruptusual your not here anymore are ya06:31
Xenguyknucks: it can get messy to mix compiling programs by hand, with apt-get's package system -- I don't recommend it (you don't need the latest FF that bad)06:31
knucksok quick question then..06:32
=== bretzel [~felix@modemcable128.237-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has left #ubuntu []
knucksi got a partition thats still ntfs (has all my movies and mp3s)06:32
knuckshow can i access it?06:32
ErrejoQuarupt, my guess is 590006:32
Quaruptokay, how can i be sure?06:32
StoffBox-Steveknucks, you get the installer of firefox or the normal package ?06:32
dashknucks: Hmm. well, it'll be read-only access, for one thing06:32
StoffBox-Stevewhats the name of the file you downloaded ?06:33
ErrejoQuarupt, read the manual :)06:33
Quaruptis there a script or GUI to configure VNC?06:33
Xenguyknucks: good question - linux is mostly NTFS read-only ATM -- I'd be tempted to consider converting to vfat, but if you try that, back up everything first ;-)06:33
knucksfirefox-installer1.0.1.tar.gz06:33
StoffBox-Steveok :D06:33
dashknucks: Crud. I know how to do this from the command line and by editing config files, but not from the gnome tools :)06:33
StoffBox-Stevejust wait i sec i downlaod it ... :D06:33
=== macala [~macala@user-10cm924.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu
knucksXenguy: whats the best way to transfer files from the ntfs to a linux partition and then delete the ntfs one and make it a linux one?06:34
=== macala [~macala@user-10cm924.cable.mindspring.com] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
StoffBox-Steveok knucks , unpack the file06:34
knucksk done..06:34
knucksits in /home/firefox-installer..06:34
=== F-Lelo [~F-Lelo@201-003-196-233.fnsce7004.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #ubuntu
=== F-Lelo [~F-Lelo@201-003-196-233.fnsce7004.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has left #ubuntu []
StoffBox-Steveok browse to /home/firefox-installer/06:35
Xenguyknucks: I haven't tried messing with NTFS -- see if you can mount NTFS and use 'cp' to transfer a file  ?06:35
Errejoknucks, cd to dir, and go ./INSTALL06:35
=== Felo [~chatzilla@69-165-222-4.miamfl.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu
Xenguyknucks: from NTFS to linux partition06:35
knucksStoffBox-Steve: ok done that..06:35
StoffBox-Stevesimple > sh firefox-installer  Errejo :D FF have a install-gui06:35
FeloNeed assistance in configuring wireless conection..06:36
knuckssh?06:36
StoffBox-Steveok in a console i hope knucks ;D06:36
knucksyeahh06:36
Errejohehe06:36
StoffBox-Steveok dann > sh firefox-installer06:36
StoffBox-Stevedann / than06:36
knucksok..06:36
knuckswhat folder should i install it in06:36
StoffBox-Stevenow a easy to use WindowsLike installer comes up :D06:37
FeloHelp!06:37
StoffBox-Stevethere you what knucks . i have a extra floder for software calles _programms in my homedir06:37
knuckso06:37
=== Xenguy notes that 'apt-get install foo' is pretty damn easy to use...
knucksi cant seem to install it in /usr/bin/06:37
knuckswont let me06:37
=== Xenguy throws Felo a rope...
blizahhow do i make the app that lets you browse your hard drive not open a new window and leave the the old one each time you go from folder to folder?06:38
_dev_anyone know how or where I can get larger pointers?06:38
StoffBox-Stevewhen you whant that knucks ... cannel the installer and do > sudo sh firefox-installer06:38
=== Errejo cuts the rope and laugh hard
_dev_I wanna make my pointer bigger06:38
=== karsten_ [~karsten@host-66-81-216-93.rev.o1.com] has joined #ubuntu
FeloNeed to configure wireless device...06:38
knucksim confused steve06:38
FeloWireless USB conection06:39
=== karsten_ is now known as karsten
dash_dev_: i keep getting spam about that06:39
StoffBox-Steve/usr/bin can only be access as ROOT user knucks, when you use sudo you make thinks as ROOTUSER06:39
dasherf06:39
_dev_haha was that a joke06:40
knucksi already made a Programs folder in my home directory..06:40
dashinstalling things as root yourself is sadness06:40
dashknucks: yeah, don't put it in /usr/bin06:40
StoffBox-Stevethat installed it to that folder :D06:40
StoffBox-Stevethan06:40
knucksi installed firefox into /home/knucks06:40
knucksso how do i make it default and get rid of .9 now06:40
StoffBox-Steveok than you have a new folder called > firefox in it :D06:40
blizahanyone know?...ive looked in preferances and cant see anything to do this option06:41
dashknucks: that's hard06:41
dashknucks: the easy way to do that is upgrade to hoary, unfortunately.06:41
=== _ake^ [PeKoSa@200.66.5.235] has joined #ubuntu
StoffBox-Stevetype > gnome-default-applications-properties in the consoel a gui come up where you can set the standart programms06:41
=== neighborlee [~neighborl@d2-251.rb2.gh.centurytel.net] has joined #ubuntu
knucksok i guess im done for tonight06:43
StoffBox-Steveon the web browser tab  check custom and type in somethink like that > home/steve/_programme/firefox/firefox %s  the %s is a wildcard for the websiteaddress :D06:43
knucksthanks for all your help06:43
=== lukewarm [~lukewarm@riggs.mgtn.dsl2.labyrinth.net] has joined #ubuntu
Errejoblizah, view - preferences I guess06:43
=== hitriko-sama [hitriko@cpe-24-175-244-197.gt.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu []
lukewarmfirst boot into hoary   =)06:43
blizahive been in edit-preferances06:43
=== imaek [~imaek@adsl-69-235-150-56.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu
blizahcant see the option anywehre06:43
knuckszzz guys06:43
Tjdwdoes hoary have good mono/gtk# support?06:43
imaekHello. Does anyone here know how to use 'mencoder'?06:43
=== knucks goes to bed
Marble2Is there any way for me to setup hotkeys in XMMS?06:44
=== StoffBox-Steve its 6:44am here ,,, not a realy good bedtime :D
Errejoblizah, behaviour - always open in browser windows works kinda like that06:44
Xenguyknucks: yw06:44
imaekDoes anyone here know how I can convert some .WMA songs to .MP3 (possibly using mencoder)?06:45
blizahah i guess that works06:45
=== ygnome [~michael@219-90-234-23.ip.adam.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
blizahdo you guys have it where it keeps the last window?06:45
blizahgets annoying :D06:45
blizaherrejo also, this is kind of obscure, but is there any way to change the default size?06:46
=== Slaggy [~Slaggy@ip68-110-22-134.om.om.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu
blizahsomeobody needs to make file viewing auto size the filename, size, type so it fits readable as best it can06:48
neomDoes anyone know how to view all the current mounts?06:49
dashneom: 'mount' will tell you06:49
=== Slaggy [~Slaggy@ip68-110-22-134.om.om.cox.net] has left #ubuntu []
=== unamaus [~unamaus@202-88-75-26.mdm-spn.micronesiantel.net] has joined #ubuntu
unamaushello alll06:50
unamausdoes anyone know how to setup dual monitors? i use a radeon06:50
dashi would like to know that too!06:50
unamausi also need to know how to get my scsi drives to show (only the primary shows)06:51
Tjdwunamaus, dash: do you have video cards with dual monitor ports?06:52
unamausyeah06:52
unamausati radeon 980006:52
unamauspro06:52
TjdwIf so, I think the drivers should recognize the combined monitors as one, and allow you to use some resolution that is double-width, etc.06:52
Tjdwand the card should translate06:53
stuNNedanyone else having troubles with slowness and hoary i've put up some packages to temporarily fix: http://uclinux.info/lance/ubuntu/xorg_downgrade/06:53
dashTjdw: yeah, but you gotta smack xorg.conf a bit to make it work, last i checked06:53
Tjdwokay06:53
Quaruptdoes ubuntu come with and burning software? like K3b or Xcdroast?06:53
imaekDoes anyone here know how I can convert some .WMA songs to .MP3 (possibly using mencoder)?06:53
dashQuarupt: yes, k3b.06:53
Quaruptcool06:53
Quarupti didnt see it in any menus06:53
imaek(21:53:09) SoccerIsTheBest: narutos gay :@06:53
imaek(21:53:12) SoccerIsTheBest: i saw 3 epsiodes06:53
imaek(21:53:15) SoccerIsTheBest: and than i waas like06:53
imaek(21:53:16) SoccerIsTheBest: dbzs better06:53
Quaruptmust have to use a console06:54
unamausthe driver is an rpm06:54
imaek......06:54
imaekwhoops.06:54
Tjdwdash: I've not had to edit xorg.conf ever, so sorry.06:54
unamausi'm new to ubuntu so i'm very unfamiliar with getting the ati linux driver installed06:54
=== monoxide [~monoxide@dialup-69.78.221.203.acc15-dryb-mel.comindico.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
Quaruptdash,  I had to apt-get install it06:55
unamausi wish there was something in the apt-get06:55
dashTjdw: Yeah, i've had to because of running kernels that don't support AGP. It's not exciting :)06:55
dashQuarupt: yes06:55
neomI'm getting some messed up mount errors.06:55
dashunamaus: there is! but06:55
dashunamaus: you have to add the multiverse repo to your apt config06:55
dashunamaus: do you use synaptic?06:55
unamausyep06:56
blizahanyway to make the gdesklet rss-grab bigger in height so i can see more articles?06:56
=== Ex-Cyber [~excyber@cpe-024-211-182-083.nc.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
unamauswhat would i be looking for?06:56
dashunamaus: click on settings -> repositories06:56
unamausok06:56
monoxidehas anyone ever had troubles by just updateing a few packages instead of all the packages?06:57
dashthen click add06:57
unamausok06:57
dashmonoxide: that's never a problem, it will automatically pull the ones it needs06:57
neomAnyone have any suggestions on this error?06:57
neom7347: tree connect failed: ERRDOS - 7106:57
neomSMB connection failed06:57
=== tuppa [~tuppa@c220-237-30-103.mirnd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
dashunamaus: check Universe and Multiverse06:57
monoxidewell HAL has killed itself, and bash says "I have no name!@matthew-linux:~ $" as the prompt06:57
dashunamaus: making sure you pick the version you're using (hoary or warty)06:58
dashunamaus: close that, then update06:58
unamausmy repositories has only "new" when i list sections it shows contrib, multiverse, univers06:58
dashunamaus: OK06:59
=== kamarudin [~kamarudin@137.44.195.1] has joined #ubuntu
unamauswhat am i looking for?06:59
unamausxfree86?06:59
dashunamaus: linux-restricted-modules06:59
=== tritium [~rimbert@12-202-90-180.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu
unamausah Base Systems07:00
monoxideplus gedit is VERY slow and so is nautilus07:00
monoxideand i updated all of those last night, and i have only had problems since last night07:00
monoxideexcept bash07:00
=== chz [~chz@66.118.242.5] has joined #ubuntu
kamarudinhello all, how can i total remove prism54 module from my system07:01
chzhello07:01
=== SapoDriLo [~jsanchez@dial-148-240-10-33.zone-1.dial.net.mx] has joined #ubuntu
unamaushmm should i upgrade to linux-686?07:01
unamausSMP07:01
unamauschat my machine is a xeon07:01
unamausoop07:01
dashheh07:02
dashMUD damage!07:02
=== lunitik [~trey@ip68-230-75-109.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu
unamausyeah sorry07:02
chzi have a question for anybody....my computer died recently and i think it maybe the power supply (i hope its just the power supply). i try plugging it in but nothing turns on...is there a way to test the power supply itself to see if it truly is the problem?07:02
dashunamaus: np :)07:02
unamauschz hehe i had that same problem07:02
j-rockchz: swap it with a different power supply07:02
dashchz: well, if the fans don't even turn on, it's almost definitely the power supply07:02
j-rockthats about the best way i have07:02
chzyeah...nothing07:03
unamauschz reset the board if youve already tried07:03
chzit should at least click rite..?07:03
chzlike the PS fan should just move a small notch when plugged in correct..07:03
chzPS=power supply....jic..07:03
unamauschz actually can u reset your mobo?07:03
chzi thinxo...not to sure..07:04
chzi have to look at the mobo manual...07:04
Errejohow come there's no ops here ?07:04
unamauschz try resetting it sometimes its the mobo preventing the PS from turning on especially if this is a new atx board07:04
chzi even tried unplugging the PS from the mobo to see if it would click...still nothing..07:04
dashErrejo: stealth ninja ops07:04
chzyeah..it is a new atx board...07:05
dashErrejo: you never see them until it is too late07:05
chzi just installed all this a few weeks ago...was a pain...but i got it to work...now its dead..=(07:05
Errejodash, uhm .. ok07:05
unamausdash should i be upgrading my linux kernel to linux-686-SMP?07:05
blizahhow do i get the firefox that comes with ubuntu to use a life text find?...like as i type the letters it finds them as i type them07:05
dashunamaus: well, if you have SMP intel CPUs, then it probably won't huty07:06
dasher, hurt07:06
chzblizah: upgrade to firefox 1.0...you'd have to update ur repositories with the ones on ubuntuguide.org07:06
unamausok thanks xeons are by nature smp07:07
dashunamaus: how many do you have?07:07
blizahcan i do that w/ out going to hedgehog or whatever its called?07:07
blizahhoary..07:07
unamausits a dual xeon07:07
dashfun07:07
unamausthey only work in pairs hehe07:07
chzyeah..its not hoary-fied..07:07
blizahas it stands does my firefox contain the latest security fixes?07:08
unamausas for the dual monitor stuff i don't seem to find anything regarding that07:08
chzits still warty...i think it maybe a lil buggy...i've been experiencing sum firefox closing...07:08
unamauswhoa07:08
unamausnow i found it07:08
unamausweird07:08
unamausi don't remember reloading07:09
unamausi'm more of a hardware junkie than a software one which explains my newbness07:10
chzso...anybody one last question...i must use an ATX power supply....i cant try with an old P2 machines power supply..?07:10
=== Dreamer3_ [~unknown@sdn-ap-010tnnashP0136.dialsprint.net] has joined #ubuntu
unamausumm no07:10
StoffBox-Stevesomeone can tell me a nice FTP client for Ubuntu ?07:10
dashStoffBox-Steve: nautilus? :)07:11
chzStoffBox-Steve: i use gftp...07:11
unamausas a matter of voltage and motherboard safety i suggest u don't unless your p2 has p4 4pin power07:11
dashwho uses ftp these days, though?07:11
StoffBox-Stevenautilus is foobar at FTP *GG*07:11
=== monoxide [~monoxide@dialup-69.78.221.203.acc15-dryb-mel.comindico.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
=== maximaus [~max@user-37kacip.dialup.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu
dashother than warez kiddies07:11
unamaus*raises his hand*07:11
lukewarmanother vote for gftp07:11
dashunamaus: really! by choice?07:11
chzunamaus: gotcha....i'll go and purchase one...if its the case..i'll keep it...if not..just return it..=P07:11
=== monoxide votes for gftp
unamaushehe07:11
chzhopefully it is...i'd hate for my computer to have been fried...i just spent 7 bills to get this thing together...07:12
StoffBox-Stevedash, i have my Own Webserver ... how i uplaod file ? per FTP right ?!07:12
unamausactually when it comes to software i'm very behind07:12
dashStoffBox-Steve: i'd use sftp07:12
unamauschz do you happen to know what chipset and mobo u got?07:12
monoxideso as i said, HAL is not working... and its causing things to be screwy07:12
dashmonoxide: "i'm sorry dave, I can't let you access that device"07:13
unamausi could give you a heads up on what is more likely to survive a straight shot voltage surge07:13
monoxidedash?07:13
unamausssvs is when a line conditioner or surge protector doesn't curve out power spikes07:13
chzi got the new Sempron 2400+....with a soyo kt600 dragon plus07:13
StoffBox-Stevea link for a preview of sftp / gftp ? anyone ?07:13
dashmonoxide: sorry, 2001 reference ;)07:13
dashStoffBox-Steve: sftp is a protocol07:14
dashit does not suck like ftp does07:14
dashif you can use ssh, you can use sftp07:14
dashnautilus speaks it07:14
lukewarmgftp does sftp (ftp is plaintext protocol like telnet, sftp is secure like ssh)07:14
monoxideheh... i wanted to watch that movie, but never got around to it...07:14
StoffBox-Stevei know but you must use a client too :D07:14
chzunamaus: i got the new Sempron 2400+....with a soyo kt600 dragon plus (c/p)07:14
unamausoow... i'll bet the northbridge is located just right of the agp slot07:14
monoxidelukewarm, sftp == ftp with SSL encryption07:15
dashexcept it isn't ssl07:15
chzunamaus: wuts the northbridge..?07:15
dashor ftp07:15
=== mips [~mips@ndn-165-149-211.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu
unamausheh do u have a nic card laying around?07:15
dashit's file transfer over ssh07:15
unamausif so stick it on the topmost pci slot you have and plug your tower for power07:16
chzhmm..i believe so...i'd have to look around for one..07:16
unamausif the nic card lights up or even blinks then your in luck07:16
mipsHelp. With hoary array 5 AMD64 how can I specify wich kernel to install ?07:16
chzok...and if it doesnt..?07:17
=== cbgb [~cbgb@24-90-47-224.nyc.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
monoxidemips, apt-get install linux-image-version-arch07:17
StoffBox-Stevehmm that sounds to be a good way :D have you a link for more information about that dash ?07:17
monoxideput in version number and architechture07:17
mipsmonoxide, i want to specify this during the cd install07:17
monoxidewell then it has to be on the cd, and i would think that there is only one version on the cd?07:18
chzunamaus: would it be the power supply if it doesnt flash..?07:19
=== siimo [~siimo@siimo.user] has joined #ubuntu
unamauschat no it would be the board07:19
unamaussorry argh i keep doing that07:19
siimohi where did the 4-5MB boot iso go? there used to be a daily one for hoary07:19
unamaus'chat'07:19
mipsmonoxide, not sure what kernels are on the cd but it isntalls the amd6-generic kernel. I will go a normal install and then do a apt-get07:19
unamauschat current boards allow PS to bypass to PCI power feeds for nic cards specifically07:20
unamausi never understood why07:20
dashStoffBox-Steve: hmm? just do "sftp://somehost.foo/home/me/" in nautilus07:20
unamauswhich is why when your PS is unplugged your nic card indicater still blinks07:21
lukewarmnetwork nic card07:21
unamausyep07:21
siimo:?07:21
lukewarmautomatic atm machine07:22
lukewarmpersonal pin number07:22
unamausonboard nic is another method but usually they drain faster than nic cards so u won't be able to see flashing while its off07:22
monoxiderpg games07:22
sic|has anyone tried to install the dvd version of UT2004 in linux?07:22
=== thully [~thully@60.sub-166-155-204.myvzw.com] has joined #ubuntu
unamauschz you still should reset your bios (set jumper to reset) for a couple seconds07:23
unamausbecause even saying the board ain't powering doesn't mean much07:23
unamausor one way is to get a tester (voltage tester) and stick it to the cmos battery (take cmos battery off) i've seen other techs do that07:25
=== AlohaWolf [alohawolf@cpe-67-49-96-168.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
chzi got DMM...would that help..?07:25
=== Hikaru79 [~adrianp@d57-4-59.home.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu
Hikaru79Can Windows read an ext3 partition, or Linux an NTFS partition?07:26
unamausi don't usually do that, due to fear of cross connecting negative positive connectors07:26
chzDMM's wouldnt matter..it would just give u a negative number =P07:26
mipsAnybody have any recommendation on how to partion a 160GB disk for Ubuntu ?07:26
unamaushow do i run fglrx?07:26
unamaussorry if i sound noobish i am very very noobish07:27
monoxideHikaru79, i believe there is a driver on sourceforge that allows that, but out of the box, no.07:27
Hikaru79monoxide, allows which one? Both?07:27
=== da_bon_bon [~rohandhru@203.212.221.132] has joined #ubuntu
unamausNTFS is a windows thing07:27
da_bon_bonhi all07:27
monoxidemips, i did 4 parts on my 200GB drive07:27
da_bon_bonanyone tried out the kde 3.4 packages ?07:27
monoxidethe ext3 partition07:28
=== box [~box@dsl-197-194.zhonka.net] has joined #ubuntu
unamausheh dunno how that helps07:28
monoxideno idea about ntfs on linux07:28
unamaussamba07:28
monoxideHikaru79, tell me if you find something. i wanna run a ubuntu/XP dualboot on here.07:28
mipsmonoxide, why 4 ? And what type/size are they ?07:29
unamausso umm any idea on how i can run this fglrx?07:29
da_bon_bonand tell me, what is the use of emacs ? if i dont ever use it, is it ok to remvoe it ?07:29
unamauswow emacs haven't heard of that in so long07:29
=== spreda [~bill@dial-203-87-75-136.nsw.chariot.net.au] has joined #ubuntu
chzo wow..it turned on..>???07:29
chzhow wierd..07:29
unamaushehe07:29
monoxidemips, i have 3 HDDs. i can /msg you my fstab if you want07:30
unamauschz so which advice did u take?07:30
chzi've been trying for so long to get this thing to work...wow...07:30
da_bon_bonanyone tried out the kde 3.4 packages ?07:30
chzactually...i took the power supply out...and then reconnected it to check the nic card..07:30
unamauslol07:30
mipsmonoxide, thanks, that would be nice. I currently looking at the partioning screen for my setup07:30
chzthen hit the power button...07:30
chzbut i did that like...50 times already..07:31
unamausthen guess what07:31
unamauschat one of your pci slots is fried07:31
dashemacs is a programmer's best friend (after python)07:31
dashbut if you never use it you can of course remove it.07:31
chzhmm...how do i check that out...07:31
da_bon_bondash: but what if i dont use it ? is it 'safe' to rmeove - ?07:31
unamaustake the nic card out relocate it to another07:32
dashyes.07:32
unamausand another until the mobo don't switch on07:32
dashda_bon_bon: besides, if it wasn't it would show you all the things that removing emacs would remove07:32
chzhmm..ok..07:32
chzdo u think it could also be the harddrive..cuz i think my hard drive is fried..?07:32
unamausbtw if you have any other pci peripherals like a sound card or firewire card use it on the topmost slot07:32
unamauschz nah your hd should be ok07:33
unamauschat your nic card uses the least amount of i/o volt07:33
unamausand trust me you don't want that thing on a slot that's close to your nbridge07:33
unamausnic cards don't have good resistors07:33
=== monoxide [~monoxide@dialup-69.78.221.203.acc15-dryb-mel.comindico.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
unamaussound cards on the other hand are good with ssvs07:34
chzits a long story of how all this happened...power shut off for a sec...then reset the comp...ubuntu wouldnt boot...saying sum fault...so i tried reformatting and isntalling again...but kept givin me errors...07:34
unamauschz i still don't think your hd is fried07:34
chzthen ran a check and it said sumthin bout hda_dma erorrs..or sumthing...07:34
=== thoreauputic [~debianarc@wolax9-116.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
chzlet it run with ubuntu live....then it shut off by itself...then never started bak on until 2 mins ago..=P07:35
chzhmm...i'll try the switching nic thing..07:35
=== R0bNyc [~jkd@pool-162-83-254-150.ny5030.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== ADfNmg [~Iwim@IGLD-84-228-70-128.inter.net.il] has joined #ubuntu
=== HillTops [~chatzilla@cpe-204-210-35-9.san.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
unamausso umm where and what do i do to configure this fglrx?07:37
unamaushmm guess i just gotta reboot huh?07:39
thoreauputicdrivers07:39
=== xed [~xed@CPE000c412764c3-CM0012254225c8.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu
thoreauputicuMkulu: drivers07:39
uMkuludrivers is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto , for HOWTOs on ATI and Nvidia drivers in Ubuntu07:39
=== eleazar [~eleazar@200.44.245.146] has joined #ubuntu
unamausthank you07:39
xedI need help with something..07:40
xedWhere can I go and paste an error I am constantly getting to show what the issue is..?07:40
dashxed: http://rafb.net/paste07:40
eleazarhello, anyone can tell me how to config ALSA? coz i tried to run alsaconf and it didnt work, any suggestions?07:40
dasheleazar: what part do you want to configure07:40
unamausbrb07:41
thoreauputiceleazar: alsaconf is not included in ubuntu07:41
unamausquit07:41
eleazarthoreauputic, so how do i configure alsa?07:41
=== ferris [~ferris@c-67-164-111-65.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
HillTopsI'm logged into the new Hoary live CD and so am a bit of a disadvantage -- my notes and links to help are on my USB thumb drive. How do I mount it R/W or even as read?07:41
dasheleazar: what's to configure?07:41
monoxideapt-get install alsaconf?07:41
thoreauputiceleazar: unfortunately, I don't know07:41
dashmonoxide: probably not07:42
dashHillTops: does the "Computer" window not show it?07:42
eleazardash: well, i want to make my audigy work :/07:42
eleazarmonoxide i tried that and it didnt work07:42
dasheleazar: okay. did you adjust the mixer?07:42
xedhttp://rafb.net/paste/results/qEIGG596.html <-- Thats the error I am constantly getting. =/07:43
ferrisHiltops the OS should recognize it07:43
eleazardash: yeah, but the mixer only detects my onboard card07:43
thoreauputiccrimsun, I think, said alsaconf is deprecated and in danger of being dropped from debian as well07:43
ferrisdo you get an icon in the 'computer' folder?07:43
HillTopsdash, I don't see it,  I looked in /mnt and don't see /sha1 or what ever.07:43
xedcan anyone help me with that? http://rafb.net/paste/results/qEIGG596.html07:44
xedI am getting that same error every friggin single time I install anything07:44
dashHillTops: it'd be in /media, maybe. but i meant in nautilus07:44
HillTopsferris, do I have to unplug it and replug it in??07:44
ferristhe usb drive should be sda107:44
dashHillTops: it couldn't hurt!07:44
ferristry unplugging it07:44
ferrislol dash07:44
HillTopsdash, OK, and I let CD activity die down... and replug it in. OK here goes. :)07:45
xedNo, no one wants to help?07:46
ferrisxed07:46
ferrishold on07:46
thoreauputicxed: what is mwavem?07:46
xedthoreauputic, how would I go about knowing that!?07:46
xedI don't really know, it just showed up.. after I tried installing acpi07:46
dashxed: yeah, looks like you need to apt-get remove mwavem07:47
xednow I get the same error for anything07:47
xedwhat IS mwavem!?07:47
ferrisxed, are you using ubuntu?07:47
dashxed: stuff for an mwave modem, i bet.07:47
xedferris, yes07:47
thoreauputicxed: apt-cache search says it's a modem thing07:47
HillTopsOh my !!!! I see it: LEXAR MEDIA. It was there all the time. Didn't recognize such a friendly name. Now how about my old FAT32 hard disk, /dev/hdb1 ??07:47
dashxed: also i am betting you don't have one07:47
xeddash: I don't really know.. don't really use my modem on ubuntu07:47
xedor in windows for that matter. =/07:47
eleazarso, nobody knows how can i set my audigy? :(07:47
thoreauputicxed: if you don't use a modem, purge the package07:48
dashxed: is this a laptop?07:48
xeddash: yes, yes it is07:48
dashxed: hmm. strange07:48
xedthoreauputic, what do you mean, and why/how would I go about doing this?07:48
HillTopsThanks ferris and dash.07:48
ferriseleazar ... apt-get install audigy07:48
thoreauputicxed: sudo apt-get remove --purge mwavem07:48
ferrisHilTops, yw07:48
dashHillTops: i bet there's an fstab entry for it07:48
thoreauputicxed: it's a package07:48
xedthoreauputic, what does that do...?07:49
eleazarferris: very funny..07:49
thoreauputicit removes all trace of the package07:49
xedWhy does it always go there to that package then..?07:49
thoreauputicjust remove it07:49
dashxed: if dpkg fails to install a package the first time, it will retry every time you do anything else07:49
thoreauputicunless you think you need it07:49
xedokay, i purged them..07:50
da_bon_bonhow do i help in translation of ubuntu to hindi language ?07:50
HillTopsdash, The directory of /dev  shows hdb1 as blocked with a red X on the left icon.07:50
xeddash, thats an odd way of doing thigns. =|07:50
dashxed: it usually works07:50
xedYeah, except in this case07:50
xedSo should I try re-installing the acpi?07:50
dashHillTops: so it doesn't show anything in computer:/// ?07:50
xedI need sound man! Sound!07:50
thoreauputicxed: not really - apt doesn't know if you want it ;)07:51
xedthoreauputic, true.. but you know... I'm a long time Windows user. =|07:51
xed(Don't hurt me!)07:51
HillTopsdash, not sure what you mean by computer.07:51
thoreauputicxed: just try agian and see if the error is gone07:51
=== jba [~jba@c211-30-145-155.blktn3.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
dashHillTops: click 'places', then 'computer'07:51
xedit says acpi-support is already the latest version..07:52
thoreauputick07:52
boxanyone have a tip on the best way to put java on my system?07:52
dashbox: there's some bits on the wiki07:52
thoreauputicwell you already have it then, don't you?07:52
xed" 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 41 not upgraded. "07:52
=== Quar [~Quarupt@c-67-170-1-214.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
Errejobox, www.ubuntuguide.org07:52
Quarwhere can i get more themes for Ubuntu/gnome?07:53
thoreauputicacpi-support is already installed, obviously07:53
HillTopsdash, it shows CDROM, LEXAR (USB) and FILESYSTEM which is root etc on the RAM disk.07:53
=== pitti [~pitti@box79162.elkhouse.de] has joined #ubuntu
=== pitti [~pitti@box79162.elkhouse.de] has left #ubuntu ["Have]
=== Quar is now known as Quarupt
=== allio [~omfg@203.184.18.179] has joined #ubuntu
Quaruptanyone know?07:53
xedthoreauputic, my.. wait-- is the acpi related to the sound drivers?07:53
Xenguybox: is 'java-package' in Ubuntu ?07:54
HillTopsdash, /mnt is empty07:54
thoreauputicxed: no, not AFAIK07:54
xedwhat do you mean not "AFAIK" ?07:54
dashHillTops: of course07:54
dashHillTops: but is /media?07:54
xedthoreauputic, what does that mean?07:54
thoreauputicas far as I know07:54
xedI need to get sound installed and.. some video codecs07:54
=== Micksa [~mslade@203-217-18-166.perm.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu
Micksagrargh.07:55
xedgrargh!?07:55
Micksaanyone care to recommend an app for watching a network connection's bandwidth usage over SNMP?07:55
=== Doomgaze` [~Doomgaze@d149-67-229-91.try.wideopenwest.com] has joined #ubuntu
Micksalike, something that gives a big-arse graph :)07:55
Micksadifferent time-averages would be nice07:55
xed...okay.. so .. I'm lost..07:55
QuaruptI installed Armagetron, but I cany find the bin?07:56
Quaruptanyone know what its called?07:56
=== Ivy6Quaff [~Sir@c906a0a6.virtua.com.br] has joined #ubuntu
HillTopsdash, I did:  ls /media  and see "windows".   ls /media/windows is empty07:57
xedSo.. how do I go about installing sound drivers in Ubuntu?07:58
GammaRayQuarupt: try dpkg -S Armagetron | grep bin07:58
lunitikGammaRay: you mean -L of course07:59
thoreauputicxed: 1) lspci | grep snd 2) google the chip and find the right driver for it 3) sudo modprobe <driver> 4) put it in /etc/modules08:00
dashHillTops: do try "mount /media/windows"08:00
dashs/do/so/08:00
lunitikGammaRay: -S will tell you where a file came from... for instance dpkg -S /etc/resolv.conf08:00
thoreauputicxed: sorry   lspci | grep audio08:01
GammaRaylunitik: I intended -L yes08:02
da_bon_bonas of now, is it possible to do an install with the live cd ?08:02
lunitikGammaRay: also, no packages have caps in the package name.08:02
lunitikda_bon_bon: no08:02
thoreauputicxed: you can also try  lsmod | grep snd to see what drivers are already loded08:03
thoreauputic*loaded08:03
HillTopsdash, I think I need something like mkdir /mnt/windows    then mount /media/windows /mnt/windows   ??           Your command made errors...   wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda1,08:03
=== sunnie [~aoede@d198-53-118-94.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu
da_bon_bonlunitik: will that ever change in near / distant future ?08:03
dashHillTops: no, but hmm08:03
lunitikda_bon_bon: its in discussion apparently08:03
da_bon_bonlunitik: any links ?08:04
lunitikWhy you'd want that, I don't know, but whatever08:04
sunniehi all!  i want to know if C-Media 9880 has an Alsa driver.08:04
lunitikda_bon_bon: look for it yourself08:04
da_bon_bonlunitik: sure08:04
=== pablo928 [~paul@az-yuma-cuda1m-26.losaca.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu
GammaRaylunitik: I just pasted back what he gave me.. I have no real way of knowing what the package name actually is08:04
HillTopsdash, how about  mount  /dev/hda1 /media/windows08:04
sunnie? :(08:05
xedthoreauputic, Seems there is already a driver for the sound...08:05
thoreauputicxed: I kind of suspected so08:05
thoreauputicxed: warty or hoary?08:05
dashHillTops: you probably need a "-t ntfs" or "-t vfat" on the end08:05
crimsunsunnie: what's the main dsp?08:05
xedthoreauputic, I still don't know what that means..08:05
xedWarty I think08:05
xedthoreauputic: http://rafb.net/paste/results/rWRXJq24.html08:05
thoreauputicxed: what does  cat /etc/issue  say?08:06
sunniecrimsun: what is a dsp?08:06
HillTopsdash, OK -t vfat  on the end of mount /media/windows;  so mount /media/windows -t vfat     ??08:06
dashHillTops: that other thing you just said08:06
xedthoreauputic, Ubuntu 4.10 "Warty Warthog" \n \l08:06
sunnieI'm sorry, I'm not very linux literate :(08:06
crimsunsunnie: lspci -v (don't flood here) has info on your audio chipset...08:06
thoreauputicxed: OK08:06
xedSo..08:06
crimsunah, the snd-atiixp stuff.08:07
HillTopsdash, ooops that gave many errors. I guess I don't understand this media folder. I'm used to dealing with /dev and /mnt08:07
crimsunxed: what version?08:07
thoreauputicxed: if crimsun has time, maybe he could look at your pastebin output - he knows a bout sound08:07
crimsunxed: (cat /proc/asound/version)08:08
dashHillTops: well, it's just another directory08:08
thoreauputicah , thanks crimsun08:08
xedcrimsun, Ubuntu 4.10 "Warty Warthog" \n \l08:08
dashHillTops: no different from /mnt really08:08
xed"Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.4 (Mon May 17 14:31:44 2004 UTC).08:08
xedCompiled on Oct 12 2004 for kernel 2.6.8.1-3-386."08:08
dashHillTops: or any other dir08:08
xedello....?08:09
HillTopsdash, OK, but the mount command wants two folders and I don't know what goes with /media/windows08:09
xedcrimsun, ..08:09
crimsunxed: the version of ALSA included with warty's kernel is too old to support your sound chipset properly.08:09
sunniecrimsun: unfortunately, there isn't something in that list that equates to the name of my soundcard, or has audio in it08:09
crimsunxed: please be patient.08:09
xedcrimsun, sorry =(08:09
dashHillTops: no, it wants a device and a directory08:09
dashHillTops: do you know what device your windows partition is on?08:10
Quaruptanyone in here have any luck getting fglrx working?08:10
dashQuarupt: yeah08:10
HillTopsdash, Hmmm Yes, windows is on /dev/hdb1 normaly08:10
crimsunxed: the surefire way of getting it working is to dist-upgrade to Hoary. However - you may try installing the 'alsa-source' package from the 'universe' repository.08:10
dashHillTops: then use that, silly ;)08:10
Quaruptdash, i followed the directions on the Ubuntu guide, but when i startx with the driver, i get stuck in 800x60008:10
xedcrimsun, alright... and I do this by "sudo apt-get install alsa-source" ...?08:11
crimsunxed: once you install 'alsa-source', you need to install 'build-essential', 'fakeroot', 'build-essential', and 'kernel-package'.08:11
dashQuarupt: bummer08:11
crimsunxed: correct08:11
xedcrimsun: And I do that same command with each of those.. except with the different packages?08:11
crimsunsunnie: sec.08:11
HillTopsdash, mount /dev/hdb1 gets mount: can't find /dev/hdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab08:11
crimsunxed: you can actually put all the packages on one line08:11
dashHillTops: so... tell it where to mount it08:11
xedcrimsun, it couldn't find the alsa-source package08:12
sunniecrimsun: no problems.  thank you.08:12
=== _4strO [~astro@AStrasbourg-251-1-68-143.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu
xedYou said from the universe repository...08:12
crimsunxed: make sure you have the 'universe' repository enabled.08:12
dashQuarupt: you will need to edit your X config.08:12
xedHmm..08:12
xedI thought I did08:12
xedlet me check08:12
=== coroner [~coroner@CPE20320884-1707-5.CMTS01.MQL.ncable.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
Quaruptcan anyone help me get the driver working correctly?08:12
crimsunxed: https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/UniversePackages08:13
xedwhat the!?08:13
xedI thought.. ..>.<08:13
xedI uncomment those two lines and it should work >.<!08:13
crimsunxed: you have to remember to Reload08:13
HillTopsdash,  mount /dev/hdb1 /media/windows      did the trick.  Thank you for staying with me.  :/08:13
crimsun(using Synaptic)08:13
xedcrimsun, what do you mean reload?08:13
crimsun(or sudo apt-get update)08:13
xedoh.. right.. it just told me to do that...08:14
xedI should hurt myself..08:14
dashHillTops: it is a pity that the installer did not read your mind! it gets so many other things right these days i get surprised when it doesn't08:14
xedhow do I go about installing all those packages with only one command line?08:14
dashHillTops: oh waiiit08:14
dashHillTops: you're using the live cd?08:14
=== viper12 [~casey@c-67-176-43-76.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
thoreauputicxed: just leave a space between packages :)08:15
xedoh.. sweet08:15
=== arun-- [~arun@cm11.omega227.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #ubuntu
thoreauputicxed , sudo apt-get install pack1 pack2 pack308:15
=== chz [~chz@66.118.242.5] has left #ubuntu []
xedthoreauputic, thank you08:15
xedcrimsun, why did you have 'build-essential' twice in there...? do i install it twice?08:17
thoreauputicxed: no08:17
thoreauputiche repeated himself ;)08:17
thoreauputiconce is quite enough ;-)08:17
xedAh, *pwhew*08:17
HillTopsdash, liveCD latest release.  And now I see the disk in a window, all is well. Thanks.  It could have been easier like other distros but this is the first time I have gotten this far with ubuntu -- even warty.08:17
thoreauputicit wouldn't matter08:17
xedAlright.... hmm..08:18
xedSo I'm done installing those08:18
dashHillTops: well it makes more sense, they can only put a fixed setup on the cd08:18
thoreauputicxed , the second one would be ignored I think08:18
xedi hope so08:18
=== elmaya [~elmaya@201.133.215.125] has joined #ubuntu
thoreauputicheh08:18
crimsunsunnie: lsmod|grep ^snd_intel8x008:18
xedcrimsun, I am done installing the suggested packages.08:19
crimsunxed: ok, uname -r ?08:19
=== Slaggy [~Slaggy@ip68-110-22-134.om.om.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu
xedcrimsun: 2.6.8.1-3-38608:19
=== mumak [~jml@ppp111-55.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== maccorin [~maccorin@adsl-067-034-136-135.sip.mco.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu
sunniek08:19
crimsunxed: hmm, you must not have dist-upgraded, since there are errata kernels08:19
=== schasi [~schasi@pD95E227C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu
xederrata kernels? and .. wha? dist-upgraded?08:20
=== monoxide [~monoxide@dialup-69.78.221.203.acc15-dryb-mel.comindico.com.au] has left #ubuntu ["http://www.openoxide.net/"]
crimsunxed: what cpu is in that machine?08:20
sunniesnd_intel8x0           29984  008:20
xedcrimsun, P4 2.8GHz (w/ HT).. but its not a true HT anyways =/08:20
crimsunxed: sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.8.1-5-686 linux-headers-2.6.8.1-5-686 linux-restricted-modules-2.6.8.1-5-68608:21
crimsunsunnie: please paste the output of amixer onto http://pastebin.ca08:21
=== Quarupt [~Quarupt@c-67-170-1-214.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== mumak [~jml@ppp111-55.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has left #ubuntu []
=== dazed [~dazed@adsl-219-156-58.aep.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu
xedweeee look at it go08:22
QuaruptCan anyone help me with fglrx08:22
xedcrimsun, done08:22
Quaruptplease08:22
Quaruptno one in ATI is awake08:22
thoreauputicxed: wow, you must have a big pipe there!08:22
xedbig.. pipe?08:22
xedconnection?08:23
thoreauputicxed: it already downloaded all that?08:23
xed..cable. 3Mbits... or so I'm told!08:23
sunniecrimsun: http://pastebin.ca/689008:23
=== thoreauputic is insanely jealous
xedthoreauputic, it was 43 or so MB =|08:23
xednot big08:23
=== R0bNyc [~jkd@pool-162-83-254-150.ny5030.east.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
thoreauputicxed: that would take me hours...08:23
xedcrimsun, done installing..08:23
=== maximoose [~max@user-37kac1l.dialup.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu
xedthoreauputic, what sort of connection are you on/'08:23
xed?*08:23
thoreauputicdilaup08:24
thoreauputicdialup08:24
QuaruptAnyone here good with xoeg08:24
Quaruptxorg08:24
dazedhey thore08:24
Quarupti could really use some help08:24
thoreauputicdazed: :)08:24
xedthoreauputic, thats probably why it would take hours.. =|08:24
thoreauputicxed: indeed08:24
plex0rI OWN YOU ALL08:24
dazedlol :) im at my friends house on nice conn...plex0r is him hahah08:24
thoreauputicplex0r: cogratulations08:24
crimsunxed: ok, now cd /usr/src08:25
dazedhe got me into nix except hes not even on nix box08:25
crimsunxed: make sure your user is in the 'src' group08:25
Quaruptsomeone must be boored enough to help me08:25
plex0rty baby08:25
plex0ri love you08:25
xedcrimsun, what do you mean by "make sure"08:25
plex0rlet me sex u08:25
=== johnnybezak [~johnnybez@203-173-46-207.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu
schasiQuarupt: Well the one bored enough doesnt know what your problem is08:25
crimsunxed: groups $USER|grep src08:25
thoreauputicxed: type   groups    and see if one of them is "src"08:26
xedcrimsun, done08:26
HillTopsdash, I had followed info here: http://ubuntuguide.org/index.html#automountfat   but they didn't make it clear there how to mount it: # mount /dev/hdb1 /media/windows     perhaps elsewhere. Thanks again.08:26
johnnybezakhey guys i just updated to hoary, how do i change back to the sexy warty xcursors?08:26
crimsunsunnie: getting to it.08:26
sunniecrimsun: it's okay, i know you're helping someone else. i'll be patient.08:26
Quaruptschasi, I followed the directions on ubuntu guide for switching to the fglrx driver for Xorg, and it worked, but im stuck in 800x600 and cant switch08:26
xedsunnie, sorry. I suck =(08:26
sunniexed: don't worry about it dude.  i hope things work for you08:27
schasiNow _that_ does describe your problem08:27
schasilets see if anyone can answer it ;-)08:27
Quaruptlol, so your saying you can't08:27
Quaruptcause i allready asked08:27
xedso.. I'm stuck here wondering why there is no "src" after I typed in 'groups' as thoreauputic suggested..08:28
Quaruptat least your not stuck in 800x60008:28
schasiQuarupt: Yep i can't, im on windowsxp atm08:28
Quaruptlol08:28
schasiIm stuck with windows xp08:28
schasiI think that's worse08:28
thoreauputicxed: type   sudo adduser (yourusername)  src08:28
Quaruptcome on guys the damn Gnome icon is bigger than my cat08:28
thoreauputicwithout the () of course08:28
sunnielol schasi08:29
xedthoreauputic, done and DONE08:29
xednow what do I do?08:29
thoreauputicxed:  log out and in again08:29
xed...08:29
schasiMore on my Windows XP issue l8er, gotta go, school08:29
thoreauputicfor it to take effect08:29
xedthoreauputic, that should make my sound work?08:29
thoreauputicno08:29
Quaruptsomeone up for a challenge come on08:29
xedAlright then, brb, I guess08:29
thoreauputicxed just adds you to the src group :)08:29
schasiQuarupt: Did you try changing the /etc/X11 or Xorg or whatever /XF86conf?08:29
tizenxer: figure it out.08:29
=== tizen is in in a really bad mood
crimsunsunnie: are you using warty or hoary?08:30
Quaruptchanging it to what the directions just say to change the driver08:30
sunniecrimsun: i'm on hoary.08:30
tizeni went you to the bars tonight and got jumped on the way home08:30
=== netmonk [~netmonk@nat-18.c0msys.net] has joined #ubuntu
tizenyou = out08:30
=== xed [~xed@CPE000c412764c3-CM0012254225c8.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu
Quaruptgrrr08:31
xedDone08:31
xedlogged out and logged in08:31
Quaruptthis really sucks balls08:31
crimsunxed: cd /usr/src08:31
xedcrimsun, done08:31
crimsunxed: tar xfj alsa-driver.tar.bz208:31
=== aspro [~geoff@dsl-203-113-242-207.TAS.netspace.net.au] has joined #ubuntu
xedcrimsun, done08:31
crimsunsunnie: make sure you have the 'universe' repository enabled, then sudo apt-get install fakeroot build-essential kernel-package linux-headers-$(uname -r) alsa-source08:32
crimsunsunnie: also ensure that your user is in the 'src' group08:33
xedcrimsun is the ownage08:33
crimsunxed: sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa-source08:33
Quaruptsomeone must be good with Xorg in here08:33
sunniecrimsun: i have the universe repository enabled, i need to sudo the rest of those aps...and by ensuring i'm in the src group, do i cd into that folder?08:33
johnnybezakQuarupt: just google it08:33
crimsunxed: make sure you choose the atiixp (_not_ atiixpm) driver08:33
Quarupti have08:33
xedokay, I'm in some sort of set up.08:34
xed"Build ALSA driver with ISA PnP?"08:34
crimsunsunnie: yeah, but you need to be a member of the 'src' group to untar the driver source08:34
crimsunxed: no08:34
xedSo, I choose.. no?08:34
crimsunxed: correct08:34
xed"Build ALSA driver with debugging code?"08:35
xed...08:35
crimsunxed: yes08:35
sunniecrimsun: how do i know i'm a member of the 'src' group?  i'm really sorry crimsun, i'm a newbie at this.08:35
crimsunsunnie: groups|grep src08:36
xedYou said to choose 'atiixp', right crimsun?08:36
crimsunxed: correct08:36
xedokay, so I did that..08:36
xednow what?08:36
sunniecrimsun: it returned nothing08:36
xedIt took me back to the CLI08:36
crimsunsunnie: sudo adduser $USER src08:37
thoreauputicsunnie: sudo adduser (yourusername) src08:37
crimsunsunnie: then you need to either log in on another console, or log out and back into GNOME08:37
=== YankDownUnder [~stephen@d220-237-210-77.dsl.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
viper12evening/morning all.08:37
crimsunxed: now cd modules/alsa-driver08:37
sunniecrimsun: alright it has added me to the group src. i'll brb08:38
xedcrimsun, DONE08:38
xed...whoops08:38
xedsorry about the caps08:38
crimsunxed: fakeroot debian/rules binary_modules KSRC=/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.8.1-5-686/ KVERS=2.6.8.1-5-68608:38
viper12that quarupt sure has the problems don't he?08:38
thoreauputicxed: acceptable for emphasis ;-)08:39
=== Dreamer3_ is now known as Dreamer3
xedOooOO.. this thing is making use of my PC08:39
xedcrimsun, done08:40
crimsunxed: cd ..08:40
crimsunxed: ls|grep .deb08:40
viper12anyone here install array 5 or 6 on a dell dimension 2400? I'm noticing flat panel wackiness with it. (login screen is blank until ctrl/alt away and then back.)08:40
=== sunnie [~aoede@d198-53-118-94.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu
sunniecrimsum: i'm back! :)08:40
sunnie*crimsun (sorry)08:40
xedcrimsun, Done08:41
crimsunxed: do you see an alsa-modules...deb ?08:41
xedalsa-modules-2.6.8.1-5-686_1.0.5a-1ubuntu6_i386.deb08:41
crimsunxed: sudo dpkg -i alsa-modules*deb08:41
xedcrimsun, thats what I see08:41
=== BobaFett [~felipe@pc-16-44-83-200.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu
xedcrimsun, "No configuration file found for ALSA 1.0.08:42
xed"08:42
crimsunxed: but dpkg successfully installs the package?08:42
ferrisdoes anyone know of a html authoring suite like dreamweaver for debian?08:42
=== nybro43 [PntekV15@pool-70-23-190-222.ny325.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== bestadvocate [~rob@c-24-131-99-53.mw.client2.attbi.com] has joined #ubuntu
crimsunsunnie: cd /usr/src && tar xfj alsa-driver.tar.bz208:43
viper12ferris.....would screem work?08:43
xedcrimsun, check #flood08:43
crimsunsunnie: then sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa-source08:43
ferrisviper12, i will check it out08:43
=== dewey [~dewey@c-67-160-122-96.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
sunnieferris: you could go through the repositories @ http://higgs.djpig.de/ubuntu/www/hoary/08:43
viper12its in the packages.  looks pretty complete.08:43
sunniecrimsun: alright i'll do that.08:43
crimsunsunnie: make sure you answer "no" to isa pnp, "yes" to debug - and choose the "azx" driver08:44
crimsunxed: no errors, correct?08:44
xederr..08:44
crimsunxed: dpkg -l alsa-modules-2.6.8.1-5-686|grep ^ii08:44
xedWell other than the "No configuration file found for ALSA 1.0"08:45
=== shock [~shockwave@dsl-082-082-159-085.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== Slaggy [~Slaggy@ip68-110-22-134.om.om.cox.net] has left #ubuntu []
xedcrimsun, ii  alsa-modules-2 1.0.5a-1ubuntu Advanced Linux Sound Architecture (drivers)08:45
xedThats what it be saying08:45
BobaFettguys...is there a simple way of updating from warty to hoary?08:45
viper12yes boba.08:45
BobaFettapt-get something?08:46
dashit's quite easy, just edit your sources.list and update and upgrade08:46
sunniecrimsun: it's giving me errors as an output such as "no such file or directory"08:46
BobaFettso, its apt-get update and thats it? O.o08:46
viper12http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=255508:46
thoreauputicxed: looks like it's installed08:46
viper12that link boba will give you all da' info.08:46
xedthoreauputic, installed..eh?08:47
xedhow do I go about testing to see if my sound is working?08:47
thoreauputicwait for crimsun - he's the expert08:47
xedthoreauputic, alrighty08:47
=== Panzerboy [~NoName@195.149.67.34] has joined #ubuntu
crimsunxed: you'll be able to tell for sure after a reboot. Keep these two (2) points in mind: [1]  1.0.5a may be too old still, but it's much newer than the 1.0.4 you're currently using; [b]  it works in Hoary, which has 1.0.808:48
=== Panzerboy [~NoName@195.149.67.34] has joined #ubuntu
=== Panzerboy [~NoName@195.149.67.34] has joined #ubuntu
xedcrimsun, alrighty.... so should I reboot.. or .. log out/log in?08:48
crimsunxed: and [2]  you'll need to unmute your mixer sliders after you reboot using either alsamixer or GNOME's Volume Control08:48
BobaFettThanks people!08:48
crimsunxed: it's probably easiest to reboot08:48
viper12np boba08:48
BobaFettlooks fairly simple xd08:48
xedcrimsun, allllrighty08:49
xedbut before I do08:49
crimsunsunnie: which command gave you that error?08:49
xedI best get some video codecs installed too...08:49
crimsunxed: grab 'w32codecs' from debian-marillat08:49
sunniecrimsun: tar xfj alsa-driver.tar.bz208:49
crimsunsunnie: pwd08:49
viper12just my 2 cents xed..........but um.....one thing at a time huh?  troubleshooting wise...fix one before adding to it? ;)08:49
xedcrimsun, what do you mean by "grab" from where?08:49
crimsunsunnie: it should report /usr/src08:49
xedwhat's debian -marillat?08:49
crimsunxed: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats08:50
PanzerboyHello Ubuntu people!08:50
thoreauputicxed: first see if sound works08:50
viper12:)08:50
xedallrighty I guess08:50
xedbrb I guess08:50
thoreauputicxed: patience, Grasshopper ;)08:50
sunniecrimsun: yes, it says /usr/src08:50
viper12lol...well said throeau08:50
thoreauputichehe08:50
crimsunsunnie: sudo apt-get install alsa-source08:50
viper12better than I'm spelling at this time of the evening. lol08:50
viper12and hello panzer.08:51
sunniecrimsun: it tells me that alsa-source is the newest version08:51
crimsunsunnie: ls /usr/src/alsa-driver.tar.bz208:52
viper12would there be any reason for the login/splash to be 1280x1024 when the users desktop is set to 10x7.....and xorg has been purged of the 1280x1024 settings?08:52
=== intero [~desktop@81-208-106-71.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu
interohello08:52
sunniecrimsun: yes, it is here.08:52
BobaFettI updated my repos and did the dist-update, but nothing happened! guess I had all I needed...how can I check my Ubuntu version?08:52
interohow much does ubuntu require for the root partition? (assuming i'll do / /home and swap)08:52
crimsunviper12: make sure 1280x1024 has been purged from all Depths' Modes08:52
crimsunviper12: and ensure that you restarted gdm after editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf08:53
dashintero: my root partition is 1GB08:53
dashbut i use08:53
dasher08:53
dashbut i use LVM for all the other partitions08:53
bestadvocatedoes anyone use and like ether of the gnome browsers?08:53
crimsunsunnie: and you typed "tar xfj alsa-driver.tar.bz2" ?08:53
viper12crimsun...did that.  and a full reboot, and the splash STILL comes up 12x10......which causes an error and black screen on the flat panel...wierdest thing..  alt f1 away and back, and screen is there, but...done the purge and such...keeps happening.08:54
interodash: okay, so say 3 gb would do i think. thanks08:54
sunniecrimsun: yes, i just checked it again. no errors in typing :(08:54
dashintero: LVM will make sure you never have to worry about that again :)08:54
viper12tried them besta......but i'm a fox guy.08:54
bestadvocateoh crap, i asked for that, Synaptic just froze uninstalling galeon08:55
crimsunsunnie: wait, what sort of "no file or directory" errors is it?08:55
=== maccorin [~maccorin@adsl-067-034-136-135.sip.mco.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu
BobaFettuname -a ... nevermind xD08:55
crimsunsunnie: are they, rather08:55
interodash: will learn it then ;) thanks for the hints, take care!08:55
bestadvocatethis is weird, synaptic wont let me mess with the screen08:55
sunniecrimsun: for example, tar: modules/alsa-driver/pci/azx/patch_realtek.c: Cannot open: No such file or directory08:55
crimsunsunnie: groups|grep src08:56
sunniecrimsun: mm hm, did that and it returned nothing.08:57
=== jeavis [~jeavis@201.128.232.108] has joined #ubuntu
crimsunsunnie: uh huh. So that's why you're getting those errors; your user wasn't added properly to the 'src' group.08:58
thoreauputicbestadvocate: where did you get galeon? it isn't in the repos as far as I can see...08:58
crimsunsunnie: so let's try again: sudo adduser <your username> src08:58
viper12too late thoreau......he booked.08:58
jeavisHow I can see my free space in hard disk08:59
sunniecrimsun: crimsun: it says i'm already a member of src08:59
viper12several ways to do that jeavis........gui or text?08:59
thoreauputicviper12: I think he did something wicked witha debian reo ;)08:59
pirrejeavis: man df08:59
thoreauputic*repo08:59
crimsunjeavis: with Applications>System Tools>System Monitor, or use df -h08:59
viper12lmao thoreau, that was my thought as well............disasters waiting to happen that way. ;)08:59
thoreauputicviper12: indeed08:59
crimsunsunnie: yet ,,groups|grep src'' returns null?09:00
sunniecrimsun: mm hm, yup09:00
thoreauputicI heard galeon wouldn't build so it was left out....09:00
johnwlittleand also b/c it isnt firefox :)09:00
viper12I'd read something about that cruising forums as well...don't remember specifics, but.....09:00
=== thoreauputic likes galeon, hence interest
crimsunsunnie: is your username "aoede"?09:00
sunniecrimsun: yup.  that's what i put.09:01
=== sockler [~maxedout7@69-161-188-86.atlsfl.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu
crimsunsunnie: ok, and that matches ,,echo $USER'', I presume09:01
socklerim having trouble getting online, i can see the router, but i cant do anything else09:01
viper12its funny, I decide to get my father off of windows.....and every problem possible with a linux install is ocurring on his box......lmao....really putting me through my paces.09:01
sunniecrimsun: yes, echo returns my username09:02
crimsunsunnie: and you logged out and back in completely?09:02
thoreauputicviper12: funny how that happens - I was trying to convert a friend and had a sorcerer's apprentice experience with her printer... :/09:02
viper12sockler...you say you can see the router...is the connection dhcp from the router, or a static address.09:02
sockleri set the IP manually, because my router doesnt have DHCP09:03
socklerwhat should the gateway be?09:03
sunniecrimsun: yes i did. should i restart ubuntu again, just to see, because i only exited to the login screen last time.09:03
viper12thoreauputic,  funny you should mention that.......his printer....lexmark.  his video....integrated brookdale.......his netcard.....wavelan d-link (crippled one).......etc.09:03
crimsunsunnie: nah, it's not absolutely imperative09:03
crimsunsunnie: we'll just continue with a slightly more hackish method09:04
thoreauputicviper12: heh - so he thinks Linux is crippled, I guess? :)09:04
viper12sockler, if standard, it would be something like:  192.168.0.109:04
Panzerboydo any of you guys have any experience with rdesktop/tsclient?09:04
socklerit didnt work on that09:04
crimsunsunnie: sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa-source09:04
sunniecrimsun: :) devious.  alright what do i do?09:04
sunniecrimsun: k09:04
viper12thoreauputic, lol...he loves it.  I chaned the desktop to 1 click, gave him the suede icons, and he's in heaven.....its getting printing and wireless going and this stupid flatpanel error that's blowing my brain cells at the moment. lol09:04
crimsunsunnie: make sure you answer "no" to isa pnp, "yes" to debug code - and choose the azx driver09:05
viper12is this a wifi or standard router connection sock?09:05
crimsun(apologies if you've already done that once)09:05
thoreauputicviper12: just keep the hair you tear out in a handy place - you might want it later ;-)09:05
sunniecrimsun: no no, it's alright. k i did that.09:06
socklerthis particular computer is connected standard09:06
viper12lol thoreauputic ........good idea.......but it is...later.......and i'm one of the lucky ones hair wise. ;)09:06
viper12okay sockler, what type of router is it?09:06
thoreauputic:)09:06
crimsunsunnie: ok, now sudo tar xfj alsa-driver.tar.bz209:06
socklerwrt54g09:06
=== Danten [~Danten@h168n3c1o1049.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #Ubuntu
sockleri have winXP on the same box and that can access the internet09:06
sunniecrimsun: no errors09:06
crimsunsunnie: cd modules/alsa-driver09:07
viper12one recommendation sockler.......if xp can see the net, boot that side, go to the network settings and write down how its configured.......then bounce back to linux and dup those nuimbers.09:07
sunniecrimsun: okay09:07
crimsunsunnie: sudo debian/rules binary_modules KSRC=/usr/src/linux-headers-$(uname -r)/ KVERS=$(uname -r)09:07
=== taras [~taras@S0106000795bd85bd.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu
viper12if you can see the router sockler.......then you at least know that linux is set up properly for networking......its just not "pointed" the right way "out", if you get my meaning.09:08
=== allio [~omfg@203.184.18.179] has joined #ubuntu
tarashi anyone else have problems with ubuntu's 2.6.11 and ALPS touchpads?09:08
viper122.6.11?09:08
viper12:O09:08
viper12since when?09:08
sockleralright thanks for the help09:08
thoreauputicviper12: since a few days09:08
tarasit craps out my mouse support09:08
socklerbrb09:08
crimsunviper12: prelim 2.6.11 packages have been in universe for weeks.09:09
viper12thoreauputic, .......how the hell did i miss that????09:09
viper12lmao.09:09
=== xed [~xed@CPE000c412764c3-CM0012254225c8.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu
xedoookaaay09:09
viper12oh........prelim.....that's why.  doh. lol09:09
tarasand when i enable the driver for it in x..it dies badly after first mouse click09:09
crimsunviper12: they're also in universe, not main.09:09
xedso i think i might've ruined my graphical interface09:09
xedI'm on desktop now09:09
crimsunviper12: seeing how when they were created, 2.6.11 was still in -rc09:09
xedI was previously messing around with the fglrx09:09
xednow it just boots up in.. the little dos like thing..09:10
xedNo GNOME09:10
xedthe error is something like couldn't load your gnome..09:10
crimsunxed: did you install the linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) ?09:10
xedI c-- wha?09:10
viper12yep crimsun....don't mind me...its gettin' late.  I've stayed away from the .11's until they get closer...which I oughta go snag as they're "closer" now.09:10
crimsunxed: presuming you rebooted into the newer kernel09:10
=== dolson_ [~dana@Sudbury-HSE-ppp3976935.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu
xedcrimsun: negative09:10
xedi'm on my desktop (windows)09:10
xedhttp://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto09:10
xedI was following those instructions before your help to figure out if i needed to install video drivers09:11
thoreauputicxed: :/  change *one* thing at a time when troubleshooting09:11
xedand so I might've screwed up someting09:11
=== tga [~thu@S0106000f66aeaf64.vs.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu
xedthoreauputic: I didn't change anything..that was before I got help here09:11
crimsunxed: what was the last step you performed?09:11
xednow I think I might've destroyed something09:11
crimsunxed: I doubt you destroyed anything09:11
xedcrimsun: "sudo sed -i -e 's/"ati"/"fglrx"/' /etc/X11/XF86Config-4"09:11
xedcrimsun: well how do i get back into the graphical interface?09:12
xedI don't like this dos-like thing ._.  it scares me09:12
thoreauputicxed: you get to love it ;-)09:12
thoreauputicxed: gives you control09:12
Agrajagdon't you DARE call it dos-like09:12
xedI'm sorry09:12
thoreauputichahaha09:13
dashAgrajag: hah09:13
ygnomexed: don't insult bash like that09:13
xedI'm goin go get owned in here09:13
xedSorry09:13
dashthe way you insult bash is like this09:13
crimsunxed: hmm. Take a look at your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 and make sure the Driver was actually changed from "ati" to "fglrx"09:13
=== thoreauputic beats xed senseless witha bash manual
dash"sheeeesh why isn't zsh default in ubuntu yet"09:13
viper12lmao...............don't feel bad xed.......not all of us prefer the command line.......but in linux it IS more efficient. ;)09:13
=== crimsun pats ~/.zprofile
sunniecrimsun: yay it's done.09:13
crimsun:D09:13
xedcrimsun: what do you mean "take a look"09:13
crimsunsunnie: cd ..09:13
sunniecrimsun: mm hm09:14
=== pitti [~pitti@box79162.elkhouse.de] has joined #ubuntu
crimsunxed: open /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 in an editor, for instance, sudo nano /etc/X11/XF86Config-409:14
thoreauputicxed:  less  /etc/X11/XF86Config-409:14
=== pitti [~pitti@box79162.elkhouse.de] has left #ubuntu ["Have]
thoreauputiceither09:14
dashxed: it is only recently that linux users have been able to avoid the terminal for long periods of time :) ubuntu is a big step in that dept09:14
crimsunsunnie: ls|grep alsa-driver09:14
=== dazed [~dazed@adsl-219-156-58.aep.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu
crimsunsunnie: err, ls alsa-driver*deb09:15
sunniecrimsun: returned with nothing.09:15
dazedim so fucked up w00h0009:16
crimsunsunnie: pwd09:16
crimsunsunnie: are you sure the compilation didn't error out?09:16
xedcrimsun: how would I check to see if it has changed from "ati" to fglrx09:16
crimsun(e.g., fail with an error(s))09:16
sunniecrimsun: yup, no errors.  it didn't say anything after the spew of text going up the terminal.  pwd returns /usr/src/modules09:17
xedI want my graphical interface back =(09:17
=== Cube-ness [~james@70-97-93-35.dsl1.pco.pa.frontiernet.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== Quarupt [~Quarupt@c-67-170-1-214.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
Panzerboyxed: you really want to use fglrx?09:17
Panzerboyyou need it for some games, or?09:17
xedPanzerboy: I don't know what that is..?09:17
xedI just thought I had to do it09:17
xedNow that I did it.. its gone09:17
Panzerboycause ati drivers are not really that good09:17
=== zenrox [~zenrox@wbar7.sea-4-12-028-223.dsl-verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu
xedI want my gnome back!09:18
Panzerboyhmm09:18
Panzerboywait just a sec09:18
xedPanzerboy: How would I go about getting rid of this.. and going back to my normalness witht he interface and the graphical-ness09:18
Panzerboyjust a sec09:18
xedallrighty09:18
Quaruptman im giving up on Fglrx09:18
sunniecrimsun: i type in ls|grep alsa-driver*deb?09:18
Panzerboyxed: ok man09:19
Panzerboyso09:19
Panzerboyyou are in the command line now or in windows?09:19
sunniecrimsun: or is it ls alsa-driver/09:19
xedRight now I'm on desktop which as windows.. and on laptop.. in the commandline..09:20
Panzerboyoh, good09:20
xedwhich LOOKS like dos..all black.and white09:20
=== xed hides
Panzerboyso you want to fix the laptop, right?09:20
xedyes09:20
Panzerboyok09:20
thoreauputicxed: heretic!09:20
xedthe desktop I plan to destroy09:20
=== brain_v [~brain@210.5.116.46] has joined #ubuntu
Panzerboyare u using hoary or warty?09:20
xedwarty09:20
Panzerboyok09:20
Panzerboydo a ls /etc/X1109:20
crimsunsunnie: actually it's: ls alsa-driver*deb09:21
=== Panzerboy doesn't remember the name of the XFree config file :P
crimsun/etc/X11/XF86Config-4 ;)09:21
Panzerboycrimsun: :-)09:21
xedth..was just going to say that09:21
dazedhey whats the easiest way to check hd space?09:21
thoreauputic/etc/X11/XF86Config-409:21
sunniecrimsun: oh lol k one moment09:21
xedwas just in that file a minute ago. =09:21
xed=09:21
johnnybezakhey guys are there any other good icon themes for gnome, that are complete, like have icons for most things?09:21
crimsundazed: df -h09:21
xed=|09:21
thoreauputicdazed: df -h09:21
Panzerboyxed: now type less /etc/X11/XF86Config-409:21
dazedthanks09:22
=== fsc [~lilbuntu@24.107.196.152.charter-stl.com] has joined #ubuntu
Panzerboylook for Section "Device"09:22
sunniecrimsun: ls: alsa-driver*deb: No such file or directory09:22
Panzerboyand tell us what's there09:22
=== User571 [User@218.190.213.46] has joined #ubuntu
xed...09:22
xedlots of stuff?09:22
crimsunsunnie: ls *.deb09:22
Panzerboyummm09:22
xedLots of text09:22
=== taras [~taras@S0106000795bd85bd.gv.shawcable.net] has left #ubuntu []
xedFirst line09:22
Panzerboywhat is the Driver ?09:22
uMkuluthe Driver is, like, an rpm09:22
Panzerboyfglrx?09:22
crimsunxed: type /fglrx09:22
xedErr....09:22
xedfound it under09:23
xed"Section "Device"09:23
Panzerboyyes09:23
sunniecrimsun: alsa-modules-2.6.10-4-386_1.0.8-4ubuntu1_i386.deb09:23
=== FireEgl [Ariel@Atlantica.Linux-Debian.Info] has joined #Ubuntu
thoreauputicthe bot is spreading misinformation... :/09:23
xedIdentifier: "ATI Technologies, Inc. Radeon Mobility 9100 U3 (R200 IGP)"09:23
crimsunsunnie: err, sorry, I'm tired. Yes, that's the correct file.09:23
xed...ook..there's no semicolon there09:23
xedthen it says09:23
Panzerboyxed: and Driver is fglrx?09:23
xedDriver "fglrx"09:23
Panzerboyok09:24
Panzerboygood09:24
xed...09:24
xed=(09:24
Panzerboyis there anything like BusID there?09:24
_dev_anyone here use 1350 wlan card broadcom?09:24
crimsunsunnie: sudo dpkg -i alsa*.deb09:24
xedYeah09:24
Panzerboybesides the other crap09:24
Panzerboyok09:24
Panzerboynow09:24
Panzerboypress q09:24
xeddoen09:24
Panzerboyyou should get to the prompt again09:24
Panzerboynow09:24
Panzerboytype sudo nano /etc/X11/XF86Config-3409:24
QuaruptSomeone please help me with fglrx09:24
=== mameluke [~bo@84-72-14-38.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #ubuntu
Panzerboysorry, without the 3 :P09:24
ferriscrimsun, what is the command to set the (fastest) connection to the repositories09:24
xeddone09:24
thoreauputicPanzerboy: oops09:24
QuaruptPanzerboy, you have ati?09:25
Panzerboygo to the Device section09:25
tgamore ATI talk?09:25
Cube-nessanybody know why recently things are way slow and laggy in hoary? like gui updates?  same issue on my desktop and laptop, nvidia and ati respectively09:25
Panzerboythoreauputic: :-)09:25
PanzerboyQuarupt: nope09:25
Panzerboytga: are u on yahoo mess?09:25
xedalright09:25
Quarupttga,  im having round 2 with this fglrx09:25
Panzerboytga: i wanna test smth09:25
crimsunferris: apt-spy ?09:25
xedPanzerboy: I'm there09:25
sunniecrimsun: it's okay, i'm really appreciating your help.  thanks.  k, so i typed in that command and now everything is done.09:25
Panzerboyxed: delete everything besides Identifier, Driver and BusID09:25
xederr..09:25
ferrisyes thanks09:25
xedwhat do you mean "everything"09:25
xedJust erase it?09:26
sunniealsa-modules-2.6.10-4-386_1.0.8-4ubuntu1_i386.deb09:26
tgaPanzerboy: yeah, I replied but you never wrote back09:26
thoreauputicumm09:26
sunniesorry09:26
Panzerboyjust in the Device section09:26
xedWouldn't it be better to comment it out or something?09:26
crimsunsunnie: and after you reboot, everything should work. You may have to unmute and adjust the mixer sliders using alsamixer or GNOME's Volume Control09:26
Panzerboyxed: only there !!!09:26
Panzerboyxed: ok, comment then :P09:26
Quarupttga,  ya think of anything else i could try?09:26
=== dash [washort@adsl-220-215-184.bhm.bellsouth.net] has left #ubuntu ["rock]
xedBy putting a # infront of the lines, yes?09:26
Panzerboyyes09:26
Panzerboylet only those 309:26
Panzerboyand then09:26
xedSo what do I not comment out?09:26
PanzerboyIdentifier, Driver and BusID09:27
xedTo the left of those words, I put a # infront of it?09:27
QuaruptI mean, there has to be a way to get this driver working correctly09:27
Panzerboyno09:27
Panzerboyman09:27
tgaQuarupt: not really.. I'm not getting anywhere with my card either09:27
sunniecrimsun: thank you so much for taking the time to help me.  I'll try it out after I reboot and hopefully everything will work as planned.09:27
Panzerboyfor all the OTHER ones you put a # in front of the line09:27
Panzerboyyou let those 3 uncommented09:27
Quarupttga, yea but my card is actually supposed to be supported by this driver09:27
sunniecrimsun: thanks again.  ...er...and don't overwork yourself, if you're tired, you should rest. anyways, thanks.09:27
Quaruptwho tests the latest warty beta's? or is Warty done?09:28
viper12warty is not beta.  its hoary that's beta.09:28
Quarupti know lol09:28
viper12:/09:29
Quaruptbut they keep adding higher versions of Warty09:29
Quaruptwhere are they coming from?09:29
crimsunQuarupt: "higher versions of warty"?09:29
Quaruptlike 4.1009:29
thoreauputicQuarupt: no, just security updates09:29
Quarupthttp://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=983109:29
viper12there are no higher version numbers of warty. 4.10 IS warty.09:29
thoreauputicQuarupt: that's the original number09:30
QuaruptOh okay i see09:30
crimsunsuper-warty!09:30
QuaruptMan i just want my damn fgrlx to work09:30
=== sockler [~sockler@69-161-188-86.atlsfl.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu
Quarupt#ati isnt very helpful09:30
thoreauputicQuarupt: 2004, month 10 = 4.1009:30
=== FNldkJg [~YVCrEmj@81-178-232-23.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ubuntu
thoreauputichence Hoary 5.0409:31
crimsunQuarupt: what precisely isn't working - and what precisely have you attempted?09:32
viper12woot.....an easy fix.  got sockler taken care of.....his router had dhcp enabled, and he didn't know it. lol.  sometimes the easy ones are the best. :)09:32
Quaruptcrimsun, i followed the directions on ubuntuguide and it worked fine except i was stuck in 800x60009:33
crimsunviper12: =)09:33
Quaruptso we tried different syncs and modules09:33
crimsunQuarupt: did you inspect the log file?09:33
Quaruptdidnt get anywhere09:33
viper12I've been there and worn his t-shirt before.....sometimes another person's "nudge" is all it takes.09:33
Quaruptyes me and tga and a guy from #ati09:33
Quaruptbut ill pastebin it if ya wanna look at it09:33
Quaruptbut im currently back in the ati driver09:34
=== Sav [~sav@ce02816-kristd-abk.cenara.com] has joined #ubuntu
viper12just curious quarupt, but in the xorg,conf file.......what resolutions are listed there?  and did you change the ati listing to fglrx in that file as well? (just checkin'.)09:34
Quarupthow else would i have gotten it to load the driver09:35
=== HKloser [HKloser@218.190.213.46] has joined #ubuntu
Quaruptand i beleive we left it with 1024x768 800x600 and 640x48009:35
Quarupti know the driver was working cause glxgears was fly'n09:36
=== User918 [User@218.190.213.46] has joined #ubuntu
viper12in whatrez quarupt?09:36
=== UserHkloser [UserHklose@218.190.213.46] has joined #ubuntu
=== Hkloser [Hkloser@218.190.213.46] has joined #ubuntu
Quaruptbut it doesnt matter when the icons were bigger than my head09:36
Quaruptviper12, 8x609:37
johnnybezakwhats a good text based irc client?09:37
crimsunjohnnybezak: irssi09:37
Quaruptirsii09:37
=== tga remembers running redhat 5.2 in 320x200
johnnybezakthnx09:37
viper12just curious, but are you on a flat panel or crt quarupt?09:37
tgajohnnybezak: irssi-text09:37
=== sunnie [~aoede@d198-53-118-94.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu
Quarupti wasnt aware that irsii had an x client09:37
johnnybezakapparently09:37
thoreauputicQuarupt: used to09:38
thoreauputicQuarupt: I think development stopped09:38
Quaruptyou might look at bitchx to its okay, but i prefer irsii09:38
crimsunQuarupt: irssi actually has "any" X Windows client ;)09:38
=== johnnybezak [~johnnybez@203-173-46-207.dyn.iinet.net.au] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
sunniecrimsun: thanks!  everything is working.  although I want to ask you for one more favor, if possible.09:38
=== johnnybe1ak [~johnnybez@203-173-46-207.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu
crimsunQuarupt: just configure irssi to work as a proxy, then use any graphical irc client to access it. There are instructions on irssi.org09:38
sunniecrimsun: could you repeat the packages i needed during the initial stages of this sound process?09:38
johnnybe1akhey guys is there a way of having a window not draw all fo the menubar/scrolls etc09:39
thoreauputiccrimsun: interesting!09:39
Quaruptokay crimsun anyways back to my screwed up driver09:39
=== o2 [~chatzilla@ip-212-239-162-109.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined #ubuntu
sunniecrimsun: cause i want to know for future reference. :( i didn't get the log files of those.09:39
crimsunsunnie: do you mean which packages you needed to install? If so - fakeroot, build-essential, kernel-package, linux-headers-$(uname -r), alsa-source09:40
sunniecrimsun: yes perfect.  thank you so much09:40
crimsunsunnie: keep in mind that you only need to install those packages once (unless you continually reinstall distros)09:40
o2Is someone running array-6 with an atheros chipset ?09:40
Quarupthow can i make a script that does this : cd /home/sean/Limewire  then  ./runLime   ?09:40
=== johnnybezak [~johnnybez@203-173-46-207.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu
johnnybezakjohnnybezak: test09:41
shock.test09:41
viper12ing09:41
thoreauputicQuarupt: you shouldn't need to: just give the full path09:41
viper12:D09:41
crimsunQuarupt: why not just ~/Limewire/runLime ?09:41
=== johnnybezak [~johnnybez@203-173-46-207.dyn.iinet.net.au] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
sunniecrimsun: *nods* i know. i just needed to write it down because i will be holding an installfest soon on my campus using ubuntu as our main distro.09:42
johnnybe1akguys do i have a nick?09:42
Quaruptcause it only works when i call it within the directory09:42
crimsunsunnie: excellent :-)09:42
thoreauputicjohnnybe1ak: sure09:42
johnnybe1akthoreauputic: thanks, in the text client its not showing up its just blank (probably a colour problem)09:42
shockjohnnybe1ak - jup09:42
sunniecrimsun: yes, so just in case someone comes in with a new board like mine, i know how to solve that problem.  thanks to you, now i sort of do.09:43
=== jeavis [~jeavis@201.128.232.108] has joined #ubuntu
viper12lol........sort of do beats sort of don't any day of the week. :D09:43
thoreauputicjohnnybe1ak: if it's irssi, you can get lots of themes09:43
thoreauputicdifferent colours etc09:43
crimsunyou can even theme irssi like bx  *shudder*  ;-)09:43
thoreauputicjohnnybe1ak: check irssi.org09:43
thoreauputiccrimsun: heh :)09:44
jeavisI have a pc and I cant install ubuntu09:44
=== xed [~xed@CPE000c412764c3-CM0012254225c8.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu
jeavishow I can install09:44
Panzerboyjeavis: why ?09:44
johnnybe1akthoreauputic: it was just my terminal colours off09:44
thoreauputicok09:44
xedthe greatness that is #ubuntu09:44
jeavisPanzerboy: The pc freeze in partitions09:44
Panzerboyxed: :-)09:44
Panzerboyjeavis: hmmm ... strage09:44
Panzerboystrange that is :)09:45
Panzerboyjeavis: did you have any other linux installed on that hard drive?09:45
Panzerboyor other os?09:45
johnnybe1akso do you guys know how to have a window show no menu/title/scroll bars etc. like xmms does?09:45
xedUbuntu makes my sound so loud09:45
=== o2_ [~chatzilla@ip-212-239-162-109.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined #ubuntu
xedI love Ubuntu for that reason alone09:45
crimsungot sound working? :-)09:45
xedcrimsun, thats why I love you09:45
crimsunhaha09:46
thoreauputicxed: hehe - thought you were about to complain ;)09:46
viper12lol09:46
crimsunthoreauputic: as did I09:46
xednow to work on the codecs!09:46
sunniei heart crimsun too.09:46
Panzerboyjohnnybe1ak: i don't know if metacity supports that09:46
xedI heart crimsun.09:46
xedwe ALL do09:46
crimsunaww09:46
xedWell except for maybe that guy..!09:46
=== xed points to that guy
viper12sunnie, crimsun and xed..................they could pose for an ubuntu screen.  snicker. ;)09:46
xedBut I think he might just be a figment of my imagination.. so thats okay09:46
=== thoreauputic bows and scrapes before the mighty crimsun
thoreauputic;-)09:46
Panzerboylol09:47
=== xed sits and points at figment of imagination
xed"Not like you killed someone"09:47
xed-Judith (APC)09:47
crimsunthoreauputic: bah ;)09:47
crimsunteam effort, no one person does it alone09:47
xedWhat was that codec again, crimsun?09:47
crimsunxed: w32codecs09:47
xedthoreauputic, is real? I thought he/she was a figment of my imagination!09:47
thoreauputiccrimsun: well, you *are* impressively helpful, is all I meant :)09:48
sunniemmm open source developments...delicious.  always so delicious.09:48
viper12and cheap too.09:48
viper12;)09:48
xedSometimes, I think crimsun is an extremely advanced AI bot..09:48
sunnielol09:48
sunniethat's what we're trying to tell people on my campus.  CHEAP.09:48
xedAnd I think that this is all some sort of sick conspiracy... then I realize that I AM crazy.09:48
viper12just don't get em' dell dimension 2400's sunnie.............lol.09:48
thoreauputicxed: nah, he's not a bot - bots make mistakes ;-)09:49
xedthoreauputic, you got a point there...09:49
xedSo he's probably a spy then..09:49
sunnielol viper12.09:49
xedThat works for ubuntu09:49
xedwho goes around magically solving problems through the awesomeness that is his logic09:49
viper12I'm laughing thru the tears........but winning the battle.09:49
QuaruptOkay im gunna alien the damn limewire rpm so i dont have to deal with it being broke09:49
=== RattWork [~rattboi@c-24-17-185-187.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
jeavisPanzerboy: I can install mandrake09:49
Quaruptanyone know the url where ya can get pro for free09:50
jeavisPanzerboy: I cant install ubuntu09:50
xedI have mandrake on my old desktop PII.. it sits there and does nothing because its not connected to the net.. -.-09:50
xedbut its an old version of mandrake09:50
=== Skwid_ [~Skwid@stlaurent-1-82-228-247-28.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu
crimsunQuarupt: isn't limewire a gnutella client?09:50
xedmandrake 609:50
jeavisPanzerboy: Is so estrenge I have ubuntu in two pc and I dont have problems09:50
Panzerboyjeavis: well that's strage then09:50
Panzerboyyou say it freezes in partitioning?09:50
thoreauputicxed: I like archaeology too ;-)09:50
xedarchaeology?09:51
xedI like chicken.09:51
crimsun(you mentioned "old")09:51
jeavisPanzerboy: I can install ubuntu from the net09:51
viper12lmao thoreauputic .......i was thinking fossils.09:51
Quaruptcrimsun, si09:51
xedoh09:51
xedthe pentium 209:51
crimsunQuarupt: are you running Hoary?09:51
thoreauputicand the mandrake 6...09:51
xedYeah, that PC runs smoother than my stupid devil HP desktop...09:51
Quaruptsi09:51
sunniethe pentium2 IS a fossil .....09:52
xedDevil HP Desktop more recent than the PII.. by like 5 years..09:52
crimsunQuarupt: I would much appreciate if you test updated gtk-gnutella packages before I upload to universe09:52
crimsunQuarupt: http://sh.nu/~crimsun/ubuntu-motu/09:52
Panzerboyjeavis: but not from a burned cd?09:52
johnnybe1akdont mess with the pentiums baby09:52
thoreauputicsunnie: hey, i have a P200 mmx here!09:52
QuaruptIts installed but i have to run it from a terminal i have added ot to my path linked to to /bin but nothiong works09:52
thoreauputicsunnie: not running Ubuntu, though09:52
xedcrimsun, what was that link again? to the codecs...09:52
RattWorkI'm about to do an ubuntu install dualbooting XP09:53
Quaruptlol crimsun thanx but gtk gnu sucks09:53
Panzerboyxed: do you have marillat repo's added to sources.list?09:53
crimsunxed: 'w32codecs' is in the debian-marillat repository; see http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats09:53
sunnielol thoreauputic: it's alright, i have a p1 sitting right next to me.  that one is still on windows98. *shudders* ah well not mine.09:53
=== Tomcat_ [Tomcat@p54A1B2DB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== joeblow1234 [~chatzilla@S0106000c6ec62859.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu
Quaruptlol limewire is way faster and has a better gui and more servers09:53
RattWorkhow many partitions should I have?09:53
crimsunQuarupt: fair 'nuff09:53
RattWorkI'd like: users, root, xp, shared data09:53
johnnybe1akwhat do you use crimsun09:53
=== Gqvpih [~Fwtqos@dsl81-215-35115.adsl.ttnet.net.tr] has joined #ubuntu
RattWorkso that's like 5 partitions, right?09:54
crimsunjohnnybe1ak: for?09:54
viper12don't ferget swap RattWork09:54
johnnybe1akfilesharing09:54
crimsunjohnnybe1ak: I generally stick to bittorrent (btdownloadcurses)09:54
johnnybe1ak(limewire)09:54
johnnybe1akcrimsun: cool09:54
=== wezzer [~antti@a80-186-42-221.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu
=== Panzerboy is using dc
thoreauputicsunnie: Debian Woody on my P20009:54
RattWorkvincent_: I think that IS 5 with swap09:55
viper12smiles....and agrees with crimsun.  the blue frog be jess fine.09:55
xedHow do I get Gaim to minimize to the top tray rather than the bottom bar..?09:55
RattWorka boot partition isn't really neccessary, right?09:55
joeblow1234RattWork : no it isnt09:55
thoreauputicRattWork: right09:55
Panzerboyxed: close it09:55
sunniethoreauputic: ah.  what's debian woody like?09:55
crimsunxed: click the icon in the tray ;)09:55
Panzerboyclick the x09:56
johnnybe1akhey guys i have the standard hoary sources, and i want to install mplayer09:56
thoreauputicsunnie: rock solid but kind of outdated, of course09:56
crimsunjohnnybe1ak: which cpu?09:56
johnnybe1akppc09:56
joeblow1234johnnybe1ak : i found that compiling it is the easiest09:56
crimsunjohnnybe1ak: make sure you enable multiverse09:56
thoreauputicsunnie: when I say solid, i mean it!09:56
johnnybe1akit shows up09:56
joeblow1234crimsun : the codecs provided on www.mplayerhq.hu, will they work on09:56
joeblow1234PPC/Linux09:57
xedcrimsun, that just closes it =(09:57
johnnybe1akbut when i try install it it says it depends on an uninstallable package09:57
johnnybe1aklibavcodec209:57
=== calc [~ccheney@ip70-185-4-246.ma.dl.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu
jeavisPanzerboy: Yes not from a burned cd09:57
=== IvyCQHome [~Sir@c906a0a6.virtua.com.br] has joined #ubuntu
joeblow1234johnnybe1ak : download the source code from http://www.mplayerhq.hu and then compile it09:57
viper12xed........if you add the gaim app to the top panel it will minimize there.  if you've got it added to the bottome panel then remove it and add it to the top.09:57
crimsunxed: clicking the tray icon should minimize to/restore from tray09:57
johnnybe1akjoeblowd1234: i tried with warty and it wouldnt compile ill give it another go09:57
=== bigcx2 [~bigcx2@pool-141-153-117-79.clrk.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu
johnnybe1akcos i installed hoary09:58
crimsunjoeblow1234: yeah, but make sure you don't pick the i386 ones09:58
bigcx2hey09:58
xedviper12, how do i put it on the top tray?09:58
=== nasti [~nasti@pool-141-153-117-79.clrk.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu
joeblow1234crimsun : they dont offer a choice, there is just a single essential codecs package09:58
bigcx2can anyone tell me how to blacklist things on startup09:58
sunniethoreauputic: ic...lol okay then.  what other distros have you tried?09:58
crimsunjohnnybe1ak: there appear to be mplayer-altivec, mplayer-powerpc, and mplayer-g4 packages09:58
jeavishow I un tar a .tar.bz209:58
Panzerboyjeavis: then maybe it's a problem with the cd09:58
bigcx2modules09:58
Panzerboyjeavis: or with the iso09:59
crimsunjeavis: tar xfj foo.tar.bz209:59
Panzerboyjeavis: did you check the iso with md5sum before burning it ?09:59
bigcx2blacklisting modules anybody?09:59
viper12on the top panel xed, just right click, select +add to panel..........09:59
johnnybe1akcrimsun: yeah i tried the powerpc and g409:59
jeavisPanzerboy: I burned a other cd and I cant09:59
crimsunbigcx2: echo somemodule | sudo tee -a /etc/hotplug/blacklist09:59
johnnybe1akcrimsun: no love09:59
xedviper12: I don't see "gaim" available...09:59
Quaruptafter you install gtk-gnutella does it place itself on any of the menus?09:59
Panzerboyjeavis: maybe the iso is borked09:59
jeavisI install with the same cd the first tow machines10:00
bigcx2will try crimsun10:00
thoreauputicsunnie: hmm...mandrake, vector, deadrat... that's about it I guess...10:00
viper12you can do the custom app launcher and fill in the blanks.10:00
Quaruptso thast a no10:00
thoreauputicsunnie: staying with debian and ubuntu10:00
raghujeavis: tar -jxvf filename10:00
Quarupti cant even find the bin10:00
xedWhere be Gaim located? -.-10:00
viper12is your main panel (top) set up with the standard apps/places/system or did you move it to the bottom?10:00
Quaruptin any repository10:00
thoreauputic/usr/bin/gaim?10:00
=== Skwid_ [~Skwid@stlaurent-1-82-228-247-28.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu
crimsunQuarupt: which gtk-gnutella version?10:01
raghuxed: in bin10:01
xedviper12: I might've accidentally removed the gaim icon a while back..10:01
johnnybe1ak/usr/bin/gaim10:01
Quaruptwhatever one is in the repository10:01
viper12if standard menu is at the top......you can go app/internet/gaim and right click to add to the panel.10:01
=== xed rolls eyes
Quaruptcrimsun,10:01
crimsunQuarupt: that's because that version is broken, hence why I asked you to test the version I'm about to upload to universe =)10:01
Quaruptwhatever one it gives me with apt-get install gtk-gnutella10:01
shockhey - amyone here informed about any good console icq client?10:01
raghuxed: if it is insatlled through tar file ...in terminal type gaim10:01
Quaruptoh10:01
=== ubuntu [~ubuntu@203-79-99-45.adsl.paradise.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu
tgashock: centericq10:02
crimsunshock: centericq10:02
johnnybe1akso why are there packages available if their dependancies aren't?10:02
crimsunshock: there's also btlbee, which interfaces nicely with irssi10:02
RattWorkis it better to install XP then install Ubuntu over the top?10:02
sunniethoreauputic: yeah, i had to try SuSE because that was the distro we used for our last installfest, and boo i didn't like it too much.  now this whole ubuntu flavour is just nice.10:02
RattWorkand if so, should XP partition be first on the drive?10:02
=== nasti [~nasti@pool-141-153-117-79.clrk.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu
johnnybe1akRattWork: do you want to dual boot10:03
thoreauputicRattWork: always install wintendo first10:03
shock:)10:03
viper12RattWork, its easier for xp first then ubuntu10:03
shockthx guys10:03
viper12lmao thoreauputic10:03
RattWorkok, how about as far as where on disk to put XP10:03
RattWorkfirst partition?10:03
xedargghhh. -.-10:03
viper12yes RattWork10:03
RattWorkok10:03
xedIt just re-launches it if I custom add a program to the top..10:03
viper12xed.......remove the one from the bottom panel so its not in two places.10:04
=== ineedhelp [WW12@202.61.209.151] has joined #ubuntu
=== DragonFly- [~vampyre@m73.net81-66-181.noos.fr] has joined #ubuntu
crimsunjohnnybe1ak: what errors do you get regarding attempting to install mplayer?10:04
=== ubuntu [~ubuntu@203-79-99-45.adsl.paradise.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu
=== ineedhelp is now known as bob55
crimsunjohnnybe1ak: are they missing dependencies? If so, did you add the requisite debian-marillat/mirror repo(s)?10:05
bigcx2crimsun10:05
xedviper12: i can't really "remove" it from the bottom. =/10:05
bigcx2what if i wanted to unload a kernel module10:05
bigcx2same thing?10:05
bigcx2at startup10:06
Quaruptdid crisun leave?10:06
crimsunerr?10:06
bigcx2i want to unload the floppy module from loading at startup10:06
Quaruptcause gtk-gnutella is having lots of probs, it wont connect to very many servers10:06
Quaruptmaybe it just needs an updated server list10:06
viper12xed: sort of scratching my head here. it minimizes to the bottom panel.  where are you launching it from? a terminal or something?10:06
viper12lol10:06
johnnybe1akcrimsun: marillat doesnt have ppc10:07
crimsunQuarupt: that's possible. I'm not familiar with the gnutella innards.10:07
xedviper12: Applications > Internet > Gaim10:07
crimsunbigcx2: so you tried blacklisting floppy?10:07
viper12do all of your apps minimize to the bottom?10:07
viper12or just gaim?10:07
crimsunjohnnybe1ak: http://debian.video.free.fr/10:07
xedif i launch it from the top (Custom added application) it loads it up again.. relaunches it..10:07
xedall of them10:07
crimsunjohnnybe1ak: in particular, deb http://honk.physik.uni-konstanz.de/~agx/linux-ppc/debian/ mplayer/10:08
bigcx2well no because i wanted to know if that's what i did to keep it from loading on startup first10:08
viper12oh woot......million dollar baby is in the box.10:08
viper12sorry....that was off topic and very azureus of me.10:08
viper12:)10:08
bigcx2what file do i have to remove it from?10:08
johnnybe1akcrimsun: thanks ill check it out10:08
xed=D10:08
crimsunbigcx2: that's one method of blacklisting10:08
bigcx2ok10:08
crimsunbigcx2: no, don't remove it, just append it10:08
bigcx2is there a file i can just comment it out10:08
xedSo.. why is VLC so big?10:09
xed24mB?10:09
viper12brb.10:09
xedthats massive10:09
johnnybe1akhey guys, how do i revert to the standard firefox theme?10:09
crimsunxed: 39m here10:10
xed39MB for VLC!?10:10
xedWait-- if I get gnome-vlc10:10
crimsun[wxvlc] 10:10
xedDoes that get the codec too?10:10
crimsunxed: I'm actually referring to in-mem profile10:10
xedin-mem?10:10
thoreauputicbigcx2: append it to /etc/hotplug/blacklist  I think?10:10
thoreauputicbigcx2: if I followed what you want correctly?10:11
bigcx2ok if the name of it is floppy.ko10:11
bigcx2echo floppy | sudo tee -a /etc/hotplug/blacklis10:11
bigcx2?10:11
thoreauputicbigcx2: just floppy I think10:11
crimsunbigcx2: echo floppy | sudo tee -a /etc/hotplug/blacklist10:11
bigcx2ok10:11
bigcx2will try10:11
=== hayden [rom@123.b.001.brs.iprimus.net.au] has joined #ubuntu
crimsunxed: "in-mem" => running, as a process10:11
crimsunxed: the binary on-disk is only 1.1m10:12
xed...10:12
xedOkay, so thats odd10:12
=== Pdeoxqm [~Ctzdvhb@IGLD-84-228-70-128.inter.net.il] has joined #ubuntu
xedthe sound is really choppy when playing a file in vlc10:12
=== nasdaq|away [~sdfsdfs@tkp-ip-nas-1-p197.telkom-ipnet.co.za] has joined #ubuntu
=== spectrum [~martin@cl-lnx-sprinc-srch.blue4.cz] has joined #ubuntu
viper12back.10:13
crimsunxed: but plays normally in another sound application?10:13
=== bob_ [~bob@83.209.17.32] has joined #ubuntu
xedNo.. I don't know what else I can play it in..10:13
crimsunxed: what type of file?10:14
xed.avi10:14
viper12I posted sound chop/chirp crap issues with rythmbox in the forums today.......(streaming audio).......but no issues in gxine.  not surprised.10:14
xedokay so mplayer is odd enough10:14
crimsunxed: you could try totem-xine or mplayer10:14
thoreauputicviper12: have you tried muine?10:14
thoreauputicah - dunno if muine does streams...10:15
johnnybe1akhave you guys given the clear look themes a go? theyre pretty dam sweet10:15
xedodd10:15
viper12thoreauputic, I looked at it today, but still want to find out what 'broke' with rythm before just replacing it. (muine doesn't list streaming on their site.)10:15
thoreauputicviper12: yeah, I couldn't get muine to play streams here10:15
thoreauputicviper12: worked well on mp3 and ogg though10:16
xedWhat does it mean by "41 not upgraded"10:16
viper12thoreauputic, rythmbox was working perfectly with streams until 2 days ago with the monster updates....and now its super sensitive, choppy, and sometimes even plays garbage when clicking in other windowws.10:16
thoreauputicviper12: :(10:16
crimsunxed: are you using dist-upgrade or upgrade?10:16
johnnybe1akhmm mplayer didn't build *once again*10:16
viper12yeah.....another really cool app I've looked at is Musik....but that's a helluva ordeal to install.10:16
thoreauputicviper12: warty here10:16
viper12hoary here.10:17
=== leo_ [~leo@mas91-1-82-238-221-157.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu
thoreauputicI guessed ;)10:17
viper12lol10:17
=== spiral [~spiral@lafilaire-4-82-224-249-43.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu
viper12bleedin' edge mah man.10:17
xedcrimsun, up..grade?10:17
spiralhi10:17
thoreauputicviper12: but you get to keep *all* the pieces ;-)10:17
viper12damn right.......I earned em.  heh heh10:17
thoreauputichehe10:17
crimsunxed: what program are you using to update?10:18
xed...10:18
xedthe.. terminal?10:18
viper12so far the fix for streaming is just shoutcast.com......click and let gxine play em.  works fine, but I sure liked being able to save the stuff in rythm10:18
xedI'm not upgrading, I was trying to get totem-xine10:18
crimsunsynaptic, apt-get, aptitude, dselect, ...10:18
Panzerboyhmm, i'm getting an error upgrading hoary10:18
xedNow I'm upgrading10:18
xedi typed in10:18
Panzerboyin gnome-icon-theme10:18
xedsudo apt-get upgrade10:18
=== thoreauputic wouldn't wish dselect on *anyone*
=== Burn` [~Burnout@21.66-136-217.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu
Panzerboyit is saying:10:19
Panzerboydpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/gnome-icon-theme_2.9.92-0ubuntu1_all.deb (--unpack):10:19
Panzerboy trying to overwrite `/usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/gnome-run.png', which is also in package gnome-panel-data10:19
Panzerboyany idea what's this?10:19
Panzerboyor what can i do to fix it?10:20
crimsunPanzerboy: did you use dist-upgrade?10:20
bob_hi! I wonder why the net is so slow on this machine.. I just installed warty and I'm behind a D-link adsl router. I had to set a static dns-server to get it to resolv anything at all..10:20
thoreauputicdelete or rename the file it wants to overwrite?10:20
=== apj_ [~apj@kuwin-133-129.kuwin.ku.ac.th] has joined #ubuntu
johnnybe1akhey guys how do i install a deb, that i download off the ubuntu website?10:20
crimsunPanzerboy: gnome-icon-theme_2.9.92-0ubuntu1 and gnome-panel-data_2.9.92-0ubuntu2 coexist fine on my system10:20
=== bigcx2 [~bigcx2@pool-141-153-117-79.clrk.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu
viper12just teasing bob, but the answer is:  D-junk.........er d-link.  ;)10:21
thoreauputicsudo dpkg -i foo.deb10:21
bob_viper12, :)10:21
viper12:D10:21
johnnybe1akthoreauputic: thnx10:21
bigcx2thanks crimsun10:21
bigcx2it worked10:21
crimsunexcellent10:21
xedoh geez, what'd I do?10:21
Panzerboycrimsun: nope, upgrade10:21
=== bob55 is now known as zelda
xedits going at 600B/s .-.10:22
Panzerboyi've installed hoary from some old iso10:22
crimsunPanzerboy: you just need to run upgrade a couple times10:22
Panzerboycrimsun: and now i wanted to upgrade10:22
=== krowoindyk [~karol@aji26.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu
bigcx2hey is there any cool nintendo 64 emulators out there for free?10:22
=== calc_ [~ccheney@ip70-185-4-246.ma.dl.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu
Panzerboycrimsun: i've run it like 3 or 4 times10:22
crimsunPanzerboy: when you're working with hoary, it's best to use dist-upgrade right now10:22
Panzerboycrimsun: same thing10:22
Panzerboyhmm10:22
viper12bigcx2..........check freshmeat or google it. (my suggestion there.)10:22
bob_viper12, it works perfectly on my lan at home :) but I thought it would be cool if my parents would run Linux too. they've been having trouble with their XP installation so I thought it was time :)10:22
Panzerboylet me try a dist-upgrade10:22
thoreauputicbigcx2: google is your friend...10:22
Panzerboylet's see what happens10:23
bigcx2lol10:23
bigcx2yes i know google is my friend10:23
thoreauputic;-)10:23
bigcx2ok will do10:23
johnnybe1akdam mplayer haha10:23
bigcx2gnight all10:23
Panzerboycrimsun: i'm doing a dist-upgrade now10:23
viper12I'm building my Father an ubuntu box as well..........so I can relate bob. and having issues with the dell dimension2400from hell for my troubles. lol10:23
johnnybe1akanyone know what this means or how i can fix it10:23
johnnybe1akdpkg: error processing libavcodec2-dev_0.4.9-pre1-0.2_powerpc.deb (--install):10:24
johnnybe1ak trying to overwrite `/usr/include/ffmpeg/avcodec.h', which is also in package libavcodec-dev10:24
johnnybe1akdpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)10:24
crimsunjohnnybe1ak: sudo apt-get remove libavcodec-dev10:24
johnnybe1akcrimsun: thanks man10:24
bob_viper12, ah cool! I brought 2 gfx cards and 2 network cards just in case.. but not an extra adsl modem :(10:24
=== bi19andnovirgin [~novirgin@CPE-144-132-49-78.vic.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu
=== bi19andnovirgin [~novirgin@CPE-144-132-49-78.vic.bigpond.net.au] has left #ubuntu []
viper12bob that would be murphy's law, methinks.10:25
=== rightclicker [~novirgin@CPE-144-132-49-78.vic.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu
=== Danten [~Danten@h57n1c1o1049.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #Ubuntu
crimsunneed some rest, night all.10:25
bob_viper12, mhm... :) at least I see on google others been having trouble with it as well....10:26
viper12take it easy crimsun10:26
Panzerboynight crimsun10:27
viper12the 2400?  yep.....brookdale garbage chip, no agp port, e17fp P.O.S. flat panel,.....sigh...........not worth the 500 bucks it cost..was kinda' surprised. (usually have good luck with dell.)10:27
xedE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?10:27
xedWhat does that mean?10:27
xednight crimsun10:27
xedthanks again..10:27
Panzerboyxed: that means you are using two dpgk-s in the same time10:27
tgaxed: exactly what it says10:27
Panzerboylike apt-get with synaptic10:27
xedhow do I get it to.. NOT say that? O.o10:27
Panzerboystop one of the processes10:27
xed..well I don't see any other process running10:27
viper12do you have synaptic up in another window?10:28
xedFor the dpkg atleast..10:28
Panzerboyhmm10:28
xedsynaptic?10:28
uMkulusynaptic is the packagemanager GUI on dpkg based systems10:28
viper12package manager xed.10:28
xedwell I don't see it..10:28
Panzerboyor maybe aptitude or dselect10:28
viper12shuders.10:28
xed...10:28
Panzerboyviper12: ? :)10:28
xedhow do I get all the dpkgs to stop?10:28
Panzerboysudo killall -9 dpkg10:28
viper12frickin' hated aptitude and dselect.  >luvs synaptic for simplicity and ease of use.10:29
johnnybe1akmplayer works!!!!!! woot :) thanks for your help guys!10:29
viper12excellent johnnybe1ak10:29
Panzerboyviper12: i use apt-get10:29
xeddpkg: no process killed10:29
Panzerboyjohnnybe1ak: did you compile it from the source?10:29
viper12I use synaptic unless absolutely FORCED to go command line.10:29
johnnybe1akPanzerboy: no i got build errors10:29
Panzerboyjohnnybe1ak: of you took it from some repo?10:29
viper12smart upgrad is my friend.10:29
bob_viper12, no I meant the d-link 504t..10:29
Panzerboyviper12: :)10:30
=== coroner [~coroner@CPE-203-51-161-159.vic.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu
=== pitti [~pitti@box79162.elkhouse.de] has joined #ubuntu
viper12lmao.........well that goes without saying bob. lmao10:30
xedSo.. that process killing thing didn't work Panzerboy10:30
Panzerboybut when do you get that error?10:30
johnnybe1akPanzerboy: from the multiverse for some reason the dependancies werent showing up even though theyre in the ubuntu repositories so i just downloaded them off the ubuntu web site10:30
Panzerboywhat are you trying to do ?10:30
xedkill the dpkg processes, which are supposedly running and I can't see them?10:30
Panzerboyjohnnybe1ak: the dependencies?10:30
thoreauputicxed: do you have several terminals open? Are you in process of installing something else?10:30
xedthoreauputic, I have one running10:31
johnnybe1akPanzerboy: yeah10:31
xedI remember pressing ctrl+x on something (and upgrade) and it stopped10:31
xed...10:31
Panzerboyxed: and you want to start another one?10:31
thoreauputicxed: that message always mens apt is busy10:31
thoreauputic*means10:31
xed...10:31
Panzerboyjohnnybe1ak: thanks, i will install mplayer later :)10:31
xedthat ctrl+x probably had something to do with it10:31
viper12something got orphaned possibly.......10:31
thoreauputicxed: you have to wait for the process to finish10:31
Panzerboyalways press ctrl+c10:31
Panzerboynot +x10:31
xedwell i did press it while an upgrade was running..10:32
Panzerboyps aux | grep dpkg ?10:32
johnnybe1aknow to get some non ugly skin for mplayer :P10:32
Panzerboywhat is it showing?10:32
tgamaybe you pressed ctrl+z10:32
xed...nothing10:32
xedah, that might be it tga10:32
xedI don't know10:32
viper12xed, you could fiddle and hunt for awhile.......or just reboot and get it taken care of. ;)10:32
Panzerboytga: :-)10:32
Panzerboyz is near x :P10:32
tgaxed: try fg10:32
xedviper12: i think I might go into windows to continue my torrents.. =|10:32
thoreauputicviper12: reboot?? this is Linux!10:32
=== Dreamer3_ [~unknown@sdn-ap-002tnnashP0173.dialsprint.net] has joined #ubuntu
tgajust 1-2 keys apart.. not much difference10:33
xedbrb10:33
=== spazery [spazery@ACC84FEA.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== tga plays with NIS and NFS
viper12yeah, it IS thoreau.......and linux reboots like a rocket........and rather than spend three hours on a mistake........sometimes the path of least resistance.....is the most efficeint at solving the problem. ;)10:33
viper12too much time is money 'engineer' in me i guess. lol10:34
thoreauputicviper12: heretic!10:34
viper12and damn proud of it. lol10:34
=== zelda [WW12@202.61.209.151] has left #ubuntu []
spazeryhow do i stop services from loading when the computer boots up? can anyone help??10:34
=== thoreauputic stacks the wood on the pyre in readiness...
viper12lmao10:35
tgaspacey: update-rc.d -f SERVICENAME remove10:35
tgaspacey: man update-rc.d for more info10:35
spazerythanks10:35
tganp10:35
Panzerboytga: there is no graphical runlevel editor in ubuntu ?10:35
tgaI have no idea10:36
thoreauputicNo one expects the Spanish Inquisition!10:36
tgantsysv? :)10:36
Panzerboycause that update-rc.d is so unintuitive :p10:36
Panzerboyyeah10:36
Panzerboy:)10:36
spiralhmmm... kde 3.4 is normally going to be released in almost 10 days... Do you know if it will be integrated in hoary ?10:36
viper12lmao x 10 thoreauputic .......my inbox does "thwaaaang........message for you sir!"10:36
tgaat least it does the job10:36
viper12spiral......do a search on ubuntu web site for:  KUbuntu10:37
thoreauputicviper12: black helicopters - ETA 30seconds10:37
viper12lmao10:37
viper12you're not paranoid if THEY really ARE out to get you. ;)10:38
thoreauputic:)10:38
thoreauputicviper12: Everyone hates me because I'm paranoid10:38
thoreauputic:)10:38
spiralviper12: all right... I'll check with this :-)10:39
viper12"know thyself" is very important thoreauputic10:39
viper12heh heh.10:39
thoreauputicindeed ;-)10:39
=== haich [~haich@37.Red-81-39-102.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu
viper12cool spiral.......the KUbuntu project is running in parallel with the main....with the KDE environment.10:39
tgathe question is whether it's spiraling up or down10:40
viper12although I personally don't like KDE, its cool that the project is running, as 'viva la'difference is better than "you must run THIS". :)10:40
=== bascule [~kenny@user-3446.l5.c1.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu
tgaviva la flamewar10:40
bob_ttyl! :)10:40
viper12lmao tga.  (I said PERSONALLY)....not it 'sucks.  heh heh10:41
asproHello, I am running a fully updated hoary and I run XFCE as my DE, for some reason gnome-integrated apps seem to take forever to load up and azureus (java gtk program) doesnt load at all10:41
=== xed [~xed@CPE000c412764c3-CM0012254225c8.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu
mipsHelp ! I just installed AMD64 Hoary, after doing the Nvidia install X wont start ?10:41
xedokay, so I'm avoiding Windows here10:41
asprowith a plain array-4 install they work perfectly10:41
xedI tried installing BitTornado onto #ubuntu10:41
xederr10:41
spiralviper12: this sounds quite nice :-)10:41
xedUbuntu*10:41
thoreauputicxed: good man :)10:41
johnnybe1akmips: whats the error?10:41
uMkuluthe error is something like couldn't load my gnome..10:41
viper12aspro........are you using xorg + fglrx?10:42
viper12thought you'd like that spiral.10:42
asproxorg + nvidia, it only happens to select gtk apps10:42
mipsjohnnybe1ak, says it cannot start the x server10:42
thoreauputichmm uMkulu has some bot problems...10:42
xedSo.. I can't find where it went10:42
xedbittornado that10:42
xedis10:42
=== o2 [~chatzilla@ip-212-239-162-109.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined #ubuntu
tgauMkulu: mumu?10:43
uMkulumumu is good10:43
viper12aspro there are known issues with the latest xorg and the fglrx (nvidia) drivers.......which are causing redraw and other issues...tis possible that's whats causing the problems.10:43
thoreauputichi uMkulu :)10:43
xedwhere'd bittornado go?10:43
xedI installed it.. and it went poof.. bye bye. it went away10:43
xed=(10:43
xedNow I'm sad10:43
=== Flow [~Pierre@metabluefr.net1.nerim.net] has joined #ubuntu
asprohmm okay, but this isnt redraw, its like not doing a thing for around 2 minutes or so10:44
thoreauputicxed: try `locate bittornado`10:44
=== Dmitrifluitman [~Demian@ip545100ac.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #ubuntu
DmitrifluitmanI know it's OK to be a newbie10:44
Dmitrifluitmanbut it still feels odd :D10:44
PanzerboyDmitrifluitman: no, it's not :-)10:45
Dmitrifluitmanoh...10:45
viper12its also possible that being hoary and development something has been borked when running another environment and loading the gnome libraries to run the apps.10:45
Dmitrifluitmanthen I'll leave10:45
Panzerboyall newbies will be punished :D10:45
xedwarning: locate: could not open database: /var/lib/slocate/slocate.db: No such file or directory10:45
xedthat ..isn't good10:45
thoreauputicKill the newbie !! ;-)10:45
tgaother than scaling my frequency all the way down what else can I do to prevent my laptop fan from starting?10:45
Dmitrifluitmanhehehe10:45
xedI'm dead =(10:45
thoreauputicDmitrifluitman: what's the problem?10:45
uMkuluthe problem is i cant open it via menu10:45
flangetga: use it in the fridge? ;)10:45
Panzerboylol10:45
DmitrifluitmanI installed ubuntu just yesterday10:45
thoreauputicxed: sudo updatedb && locate bittornado10:45
Dmitrifluitmannow I want to install a ftp prog10:46
Panzerboymy gnome-volume-manager just crashed10:46
thoreauputicand ignore the "error"10:46
tgaI remember it being a lot quieter with the ACPI processor module loaded, but that was back on Gentoo10:46
DmitrifluitmanI've got the .gz10:46
PanzerboyDmitrifluitman: www.ubuntuguide.org10:46
viper12aspro, have you checked the hoary forums regarding this?  you may wanna post the problem there....may alert someone to a problem.10:46
PanzerboyDmitrifluitman: very good lecture10:46
PanzerboyDmitrifluitman: not the .gx10:46
Panzerboygz10:46
Panzerboyc'mon man, this is debian10:46
tga.cx10:46
Panzerboy:)10:46
Panzerboyno more gx10:46
Panzerboygz lol10:46
Panzerboytga: :)10:46
xedUmm.. okay that did.. nothing thoreauputic10:47
asproviper12, i checked the forums, will post something about it10:47
Dmitrifluitmanno it's a bz210:47
DmitrifluitmanBut I'll just read :)10:47
thoreauputicxed: did you let it run? It takes several minutes10:47
xedwarning: updatedb: could not open database: /var/lib/slocate/slocate.db: No such file or directory10:47
xedand it just blinks...10:47
xedblink..blink..blink10:47
viper12nods....seeing that the apps DO run eventually, sounds like a library issue or a call, but that would be damn hard to suss out.10:47
xedwell that might explain why my CPU frequency just went up10:47
thoreauputicxed , it's running10:47
viper12or easy......but murphy says 'hard'.10:47
=== msturm [~msturm@kbl-gs8065.zeelandnet.nl] has joined #ubuntu
xedokay so now its done10:48
xed...10:48
thoreauputicxed, you won't see anything10:48
=== mirak [~mirak@AAubervilliers-152-1-52-208.w82-121.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu
=== png` [~png@85.98.18.255] has joined #ubuntu
xedI see...some things10:48
xedits done..10:48
PanzerboyDmitrifluitman: what ftp client are you trying to install ?10:48
thoreauputicso now `locate bittornado` or whatever10:48
thoreauputicyou should see a list of stuff10:48
xedyep10:48
xedI see the list10:48
Dmitrifluitmanpanzerboy kbear10:48
=== saif [~saif@213.186.188.105] has joined #ubuntu
saifhello every110:49
Dmitrifluitmanhi10:49
uMkulubonjour, Dmitrifluitman10:49
Dmitrifluitmanhehehe10:49
PanzerboyDmitrifluitman: is that kde based?10:49
thoreauputicxed: look for something in /usr/bin10:49
Dmitrifluitmanmoment :)10:49
xedI see a few things, thoreauputic10:49
thoreauputicxed; that's where the executable usually lands10:49
Panzerboyi guess, since the name starts with k :P10:49
Dmitrifluitmanpanzerboy yes10:49
xedwhat ..wait-- wha?10:49
Dmitrifluitmanhttp://kbear.sourceforge.net/10:49
thoreauputicanyone know the command for bittornado? I don't...10:50
PanzerboyDmitrifluitman: well then, you have to read that guide10:50
PanzerboyDmitrifluitman: it will teach you how to add new repositories10:50
Panzerboybecause i guess that kbear depends on some kdelibs10:50
xedWhere is Desktop located, in the file system?10:50
tgakbeer?10:50
tgaxed: /home/xed/Desktop10:50
Panzerboywhich are not installed by default, given the fact that Ubuntu is a gnome distro10:50
=== SeFoKumA [~zienaga@44.Red-81-44-205.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu
saifhehe, i just installed ubuntu warty and it asked me if i wish to download software from the internet and i said yes, how long is this gonna take approx.? on a 128 connection?10:51
tgasaif: a long time10:51
Panzerboysaif: a loooong time :P10:51
=== laxise [~laxise@213.210.179.192.adsl.nextra.cz] has joined #ubuntu
xedsweeeetttt10:51
Dmitrifluitmanpanzerboy Thnx10:51
Panzerboygo get a beer, or smth10:51
xedgot bittornado working10:51
Panzerboyand relax10:51
viper12welp, eyeball-burn sets in.  take care all. :)10:51
thoreauputicsaif: make your will now ;-)10:51
tgasaif: the good news is that you can stop it and continue dowloading later10:52
xednow to figure out a way to put a shortcut on desktop10:52
Panzerboybbl people10:52
saifyeah, too bad they use gnome, i really prefer kde10:52
=== Panzerboy is going to a Linuxfest :)
Panzerboysaif: see KUbuntu10:52
thoreauputicsaif: you can get it if you want10:52
mipsHelp ! I just installed AMD64 Hoary, after doing the Nvidia install X wont start ? Anybody ?10:52
Panzerboysaif: some .iso was released yesterday, or the day before10:52
=== lupusBE [~lupus@dD5E03FA7.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu
tgamips: did you modprobe nvidia?10:53
=== carlos [~carlos@host217-37-231-28.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has joined #ubuntu
mipstga, no, im new to this, no idea what modprobe is10:53
thoreauputicxed: right click, new launcher , type command, choose icon10:53
=== zxccv [zzz@81.213.64.79] has joined #ubuntu
=== brosio [~brosio@host112-140.pool8248.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu
zxccvhttp://www.tcpsecurity.com10:53
=== zxccv [zzz@81.213.64.79] has left #ubuntu []
spiralhmmm... if I try adding the kubuntu repo for kde 3.4 testing and updating, it wants to remove package kde & kdeartwork... is it normal ?10:53
mipstga, ok, changed my xorg.conf back to "nv" driver and now I can get X up10:54
xedthoreauputic, done10:54
=== Echylo [~Echylo@80.12-201-80.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu
brosioanyone can me explain the different beetween hoary and warty ?10:54
thoreauputicxed: :)10:54
xednow to figure out why tornado isn't connecting to trackers..10:54
brosiowarty=stable ?10:54
brosiohoary=unstable ?10:54
thoreauputicbrosio: yep10:54
spiralbrosio: hoary is the next release...10:54
spiralbrosio: yeah, unstable for now10:54
brosiospiral exist also a testing10:54
brosio?10:54
thoreauputicbrosio: no10:54
thoreauputicbrosio: warty, hoary10:55
thoreauputicso far10:55
brosioso the release with more recently package is hoary ?10:55
spiralbrosio: yes10:55
xedwhere are my other partitions in the file system?10:55
xedI have a shortcut on desktop..10:55
=== Lemonzest [~Lemonzest@cpc1-nott4-3-0-cust27.nott.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu
brosiook perfect i'll add it during the apt-setup thx10:55
brosio:)10:55
thoreauputicit isn't released as such: still developing10:55
=== Tzi [~margandch@adsl-131-218.swiftdsl.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
thoreauputicxed, what is the connection between partitions and your question?10:56
TziHi! =)10:56
thoreauputicxed, what are you wanting to do?10:57
TziI've just set up Ubuntu on a machine with an i740 video card.. the display is extremely slow - Windows redraw very slowly, in a vertical wipe...10:57
xedwait wait10:57
xedthere it is10:57
TziDoes anyone know what I need to do?10:57
xedI opened up an unfinished torrent10:57
xedlocated where it was on my other partition10:57
xednow resuming it10:57
xedand wondering why it isn't connecting to any trackers..10:57
saifPanzerboy thanx! i am current;ly using hoary and i got used to it, and everyhting is runing fine, and i don't want anything to get messed up, is there a possiblity of messing this up by installing kubuntu?10:57
xedso powernowd lets me control cpu frequency manually?10:59
TziHmm... maybe 16 bit10:59
=== Tzi [~margandch@adsl-131-218.swiftdsl.com.au] has left #ubuntu []
xedo..k.. so this isn't working..10:59
xedwaaait waaait10:59
xedhuzzaaah10:59
xedexcept its uploading massively10:59
xedI think I might need to do some DMZ setup thingy10:59
thoreauputicxed: you specialise in stream-of-consciousness?11:00
thoreauputic;)11:00
xed...not sure11:00
=== kent [~kent@c83-249-61-222.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu
xedBut now I need to figure out what my IP is... network ip11:00
=== thoreauputic hands xed a copy of "To the Lighthouse'
=== xed dies
xedI'm going to put on me downloads and go to sleep11:01
xed4:00 am here11:01
xedor 5:0011:01
xednot sure if the clock on ubuntu is accurate11:01
xedthanks for all the help/patience thoreauputic11:01
xedTake care.11:02
thoreauputicsudo /etc/init.d/ntpdate restart11:02
thoreauputicxed: you're welcome - sleep well11:02
xedadios11:02
thoreauputicau revoir11:02
laxisehelp pls ... i need to install mc ... how to do it11:03
tgalaxise: sudo apt-get install mc11:03
thoreauputiclaxise: you might need to enable the universe repository11:03
laxisebut i need to download a package with mc11:04
thoreauputicand we just told you how to get mc11:04
=== doko [~doko___@dsl-084-059-006-065.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== Dreamer3 [~unknown@sdn-ap-005tnnashP0497.dialsprint.net] has joined #ubuntu
thoreauputic1) enable universe 2)  sudo apt-get install mc11:04
laxiseenable universe ??? what is that supposed to mean???11:05
laxiseim just startung with linux11:05
thoreauputiclaxise: OK11:05
laxisestarting11:06
thoreauputiclaxise: do you know the package manager (synaptic) ?11:06
tgalaxise: use Synaptic, the package manager GUI11:06
laxiseno i dont11:06
thoreauputiccomputer >> system configuration>> synaptic package manager11:07
thoreauputicin settings, find repositories11:07
laxisei already found it by typing synaptic into a terminal11:07
thoreauputiccheck univers, then hit the reload button11:07
thoreauputicOK11:08
thoreauputicin settings, find repositories11:08
Echylohow to unblock somebody in gaim?11:08
laxiseok wait11:08
thoreauputiclaxise: check universe, (and everything else, I suggest)11:08
=== scorpix_ [~scorpix@as8-40.qualitynet.net] has joined #ubuntu
laxiseok11:09
thoreauputicuMkulu: howto11:10
uMkuluhowto is http://www.ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=15 for a listing of useful howtos and frequently asked questions11:10
thoreauputiclaxise: ^^^^11:10
=== jm [~jm@gnux.info] has joined #ubuntu
thoreauputicuMkulu is a bot BTW11:10
jmhello11:10
spiralhmmm... reboot...11:11
thoreauputicuMkulu: keywords11:13
uMkulukeywords is australia backports be  bugzilla free french games german google restricted guide drx howto topic faq support forum drivers reconfigure restart root spanish man11:13
thoreauputicuMkulu: faq11:14
uMkulufaq is the Frequently Asked Questions about Ubuntu at  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/faqfolder_view/11:14
laxisethoreauputic>>> thx11:14
thoreauputiclaxise: no worries :) Come back if you have problems :)11:14
laxiseok ill do it for sure11:14
laxise:)11:14
thoreauputiclaxise: also you might look at this11:14
thoreauputicuMkulu: guide11:14
uMkuluguide is the official Ubuntu guide at http://ubuntuguide.org - for help with restricted formats, mplayer and all manner of other helpful stuff.....11:14
=== unamaus [~unamaus@202-88-75-26.mdm-spn.micronesiantel.net] has joined #ubuntu
mipsOk, I'm hurting myself here. I cannot get Nvidia drivers to work on HoaryAMD6411:15
mipsI have followed all instructions but to no avail11:15
unamauscould someone explain to me how to configure fglrx for dual head on a radeon11:15
mipsunamaus, so seem to be a few steps ahead of me !?11:16
=== thoreauputic hides
=== leo_ [~leo@mas91-1-82-238-221-157.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== kent [~kent@83.249.61.222] has joined #ubuntu
Echylohey how do you unblock somebody on gaim?? I speak to someone I blocked, but I'm still offline at his side11:17
=== leo__ [~leo@mas91-1-82-238-221-157.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu
unamausmips actually you are way ahead of me, i can't even get the fglrx to show in the first place11:17
mipsI uncomented the source.list file, sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get install nvidia, sudo nvidia-glx-config enable (which does nothing11:17
Echylohave you restarted gnome?11:17
mipsunamaus, lol, what is fglrx ?11:17
mipsechylo, who you asking ?11:18
Echyloyou11:18
Echyloand I need to know how to unblock some1 in gaim11:18
mipsI cant start gnome as X wont load11:18
unamausati graphics accelerator driver11:18
mipsI cannot do a modprobe nvidia, it tells me unkown module11:19
=== spiral [~spiral@lafilaire-4-82-224-249-43.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu
unamausdid an apt get for all 3 (control)(driver)(driver dev)11:19
spiralwhoah... this works well :-)11:19
spiralI like kde 3.4 & kubuntu :-)11:19
unamausits for ati radeon which apparently doesn't seem to work for me, but i blame myself for being a noob11:19
mipsmy head is going to blead from all the banging, lol11:20
unamauswhoa i just realized i can't play any launch.yahoo.com stuff11:20
unamausinteresting11:20
mipsunamus, running hoary ?11:20
unamauswarty11:21
mips32 or 64 bit ?11:21
unamaus3211:21
mipsshould be a walk in th park11:21
unamaussomeone told be to stick to 32 even tho i use xeons11:21
unamausmips i wish it was heh but i don't know where to begin, i thought the synaptics would install the then viola11:22
mipshave you tried the 64bit version ? With Warty I could not even install the 64bit version, at least with hoary things work, just cannot install the drivers for nvidia11:23
=== jm [~jm@gnux.info] has left #ubuntu []
=== johane_ [~johan@h99n1c1o255.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu
unamausi was told not to use the 64 by a fellow dual xeon user11:23
unamausso i should upgrade kernel to 64?11:24
mipsany other opinions about xeons from here. Would it hurt to try ? You can always go back11:24
unamaustrue11:24
unamaushmm11:24
mipslol, suppose i planted a seed11:25
=== Dmitrifluitman is now known as _demian_
unamaushmm what exactly am i looking for?11:27
=== coroner [~coroner@203.51.161.159] has joined #ubuntu
=== danboid [~d@213.78.209.47] has joined #ubuntu
danboidhi!11:27
unamausah linux 686 smp11:28
unamausok now what?11:28
danboidI've noticed KDE 3.4 packages have been released for ubuntu- whats the repository entry look like?11:28
laxisei have a small problem ... how to create a shortcut for an application i my bar ... i just donloaded it but i do not want to run it through the run application terminal11:28
unamausnautilus?11:28
uMkulunautilus is probably foobar at FTP *GG*11:28
mipsunamuus, maybe just get the ISO and start from scratch ?11:29
coronerwhat does the CC is not in your path, please make sure GCC is install (which it is) ? trying to install the nvidia drivers11:29
unamausoh11:29
thoreauputiclaxise: right click desktop, new launcher, type command11:29
unamausok11:29
laxiseok thx11:29
thoreauputiclaxise: or right click panel, custom launcher11:29
mipsunamaus, just for the record, I'm a noob, so dont take my word as gospel11:29
thoreauputiclaxise: under add to panel I think11:30
unamausu r certain configuration for dual head would be better under 64bit?11:31
thoreauputicuMkulu: be11:31
uMkulube is sudo apt-get install build-essential11:31
thoreauputiccoroner: ^^^11:31
unamausanyone here use dual monitors?11:31
coronerthoreauputic, how far up exactly?11:32
=== min [~min@c022h035.dorm.reed.edu] has joined #ubuntu
thoreauputiccoroner: sorry, sudo apt-get install build-essential11:32
=== spiral [~spiral@lafilaire-4-82-224-249-43.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu
minis there any way to get sound to work through ssh?11:32
thoreauputicbut if you already have, I don't know11:32
=== Xirdneh [~eusoj@201.128.162.16] has joined #ubuntu
mini'm running vlc through an ssh connection in text mode, and i've got the text displaying, but no sound11:33
coronerokay thanks thoreauputic is that it ?, ill drop back to the console and try it now11:33
=== maskie_ [~maskie@196-30-108-13.uudial.uunet.co.za] has joined #ubuntu
thoreauputiccoroner: it's a meta-package that gets stuff needed for compiling etc11:34
thoreauputiccorner: could help11:34
=== unamaus [~unamaus@202-88-75-26.mdm-spn.micronesiantel.net] has joined #ubuntu
coronerthanks ill give it a burl and let you know how i go11:34
unamaushmm11:34
=== max_ [~max@129-72.244.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu
unamausdoes anyone here use dual monitors?11:34
png`png|yemek11:36
=== png` is now known as png|yemek
mipsunamaus, I have no clue about dual monitors, can only afford one.11:36
=== MyNameIsChris [~Christoph@cwpp-p-144-139-3-20.prem.tmns.net.au] has joined #ubuntu
mipswhere does one find the output of the failed X startup, I need to pasted it into the forums11:36
=== bob_ [~bob@83.209.17.32] has joined #ubuntu
=== thekoreuk [~sean@dsl-80-43-128-138.access.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu
bob_what do I have to copy fron an mozilla-thunderbird on XP to my ubuntu machine to get my old mail?11:38
johnnybe1akhey guys whats a good program for ripping streaming audio?11:38
MyNameIsChrismips: /var/log11:38
MyNameIsChrisAll your logs are there11:38
mipsthansk !!!11:38
=== werewolf [~werewolf@ip-169-11.sn1.eutelia.it] has joined #ubuntu
johnnybe1akmips it will normally be written in the console from which you tried to startx11:39
bob_it doesn't seem to have quite the same file layout...11:40
=== unamaus [~unamaus@202-88-75-26.mdm-spn.micronesiantel.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== BasL [~BasL@tuxmachine.xs4all.nl] has joined #Ubuntu
bob_somebody know how to remove the lock file from mozilla-thunderbird? where is it? :)11:41
Tomcat_bob_: Lock files are usually in /var/lock11:41
=== shock [~shockwave@pD9E18FA3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu
unamausdoes ubuntu support dual processing?11:42
Tomcat_unamaus: Yes.11:42
MyNameIsChrisI am smping now11:42
schasiThere is a smpkernel for ubu?11:42
bob_Tomcat_, ok but in this case it's because I tried to copy a profile from my XP mozilla-thunderbird to ubuntu.. and it says it's locked when starting up thunderbird..11:42
MyNameIsChrisYes11:42
schasiOn what kind of machine MyNameIsChris ?11:43
unamauswhy does it not show in the system monitor?11:43
Tomcat_bob_: Then close your XP tb, then copy again? :)11:43
MyNameIsChrisht lga pentium 411:43
=== msturm [~msturm@kbl-gs8065.zeelandnet.nl] has joined #ubuntu
bob_Tomcat_, ok you mean if it failed to close.. maybe have to reboot then :)11:43
MyNameIsChrisI'll find the package name and you can apt it11:43
=== haich [~haich@37.Red-81-39-102.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== Burn` [~Burnout@21.66-136-217.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu
schasiIs there any difference if you run a non-smb and a smp kernel MyNameIsChris?11:44
MyNameIsChrisWell your system won't be used to its full potential11:44
bob_Tomcat_, think I did close it before booting. but I'll try. thanx11:44
=== Parallax_ [~Pbl@39.red-213-231-94.user.auna.net] has joined #ubuntu
MyNameIsChrisPlus, you get a longer /proc/cpuinfo than everyone else11:44
schasiDoes that make any difference?11:45
=== tremor [~tremor@dD57647E0.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu
schasiWell that's certaninly worth it ;-)11:45
=== Kaloz [~kaloz@arrakis.dune.hu] has joined #ubuntu
MyNameIsChrislol, what kind of machine do you have?11:45
=== wurm [~gregor@c215014.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu
schasiAthlon xp 170011:45
schasiWith windows xp on it11:45
=== jintxo [~jintxo@47.Red-81-36-230.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu
unamausdual xeon11:46
schasiunamaus: the ones with ht?11:46
schasiunamaus: Isnt that a bit expensive for a desktop system?11:47
MyNameIsChrisIt will be fine with the stock kernel but once you set up your repos apt-get install linux-image-2.6.8.1-5-686-smp or whatever is newer11:47
unamausno11:47
unamausmy itanium cost me an arm and a leg11:47
unamausyeah got that one already11:47
unamausbut it still doesn't show in the system monitor11:48
bob_how do I upgrade my packages.. tried apt-get update11:48
=== dark [zzz@85.99.28.90] has joined #ubuntu
darkhttp://www.tcpsecurity.com/11:48
=== dark [zzz@85.99.28.90] has left #ubuntu []
bob_coz I get 0.8 of thunderbird... :(11:48
schasiWhat do own a dual xeon for?11:48
goldfish_lol11:49
unamausthey run colder than regular p411:49
MyNameIsChrisWell, I have to go before I fall asleep on my keyboard11:49
unamausand i do alot of dbase11:49
MyNameIsChrisBye all11:49
unamausby11:49
unamausbye11:49
schasiAh thats more like a reason11:49
AlfaWolphanyone know if the reiserfs in the ubuntu install is version 4?11:50
=== werewolf [~werewolf@ip-169-11.sn1.eutelia.it] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
=== eaglee [~opera@81.211.124.49.adsl-spb.net.rol.ru] has joined #ubuntu
johnnybe1akany of you guys used streamripper11:51
=== eaglee [~opera@81.211.124.49.adsl-spb.net.rol.ru] has left #ubuntu []
=== eaglee [~opera@81.211.124.49.adsl-spb.net.rol.ru] has joined #ubuntu
=== eaglee [~opera@81.211.124.49.adsl-spb.net.rol.ru] has left #ubuntu []
jintxoAlfaWolph, I really doubt it, I don't think reiser4 has made it into mainstream kernel11:52
AlfaWolphgotcha11:52
=== padders [~padraig@mckenna1996.plus.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== Parallax_ [~Pbl@39.red-213-231-94.user.auna.net] has left #ubuntu []
unamausi also prefer scsi and although ubuntu recognizes in the terminal i can't get them to mount11:53
=== Tzi [~margandch@adsl-131-218.swiftdsl.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
=== spiral [~spiral@lafilaire-4-82-224-249-43.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu
TziHi =) Does anyone know of a solution to the corruption behind the mouse cursor when accel is enabled with the i740?11:55
=== Pyre [~Pyre@host-84-9-33-5.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== Mikkel_robin [~mikkel_ro@cpe.atm2-0-51336.0x50a0b962.odnxx5.customer.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu
=== Mikkel_robin [~mikkel_ro@cpe.atm2-0-51336.0x50a0b962.odnxx5.customer.tele.dk] has left #ubuntu []
laxisewhat is a good firewall and a good antivirus programm for linux?????11:59
jintxoTzi, haven't had a intel 740 for a long time, but maybe you can use the option "HwCursor" "false" in the XF86Config file (or even "SWCursor" "true") to see if it makes any difference11:59
=== Dutchy [~NNSCRIPT@ipd50ae694.speed.planet.nl] has joined #ubuntu
_demian_dutchy :)12:00
Tzijintxo: I did actually give that a try, with little success =)12:00
jintxodang12:00
laxisewhat is a good firewall for linux?????12:00
laxisewhat is a good firewall for linux?????12:00
=== njs12345 [~Nicholas@dsl-217-155-201-142.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu
_4strOiptable :p12:00
TziActually, wait... I just did option HWcursor12:00
njs12345this might be a bit of an obvious question12:00
TziAs opposed to Option HWCursor false =)12:00
njs12345but how can I install ubuntu as a server?12:00
jintxoTzi, you set it to true and false, both ways and seee if there's a difference?12:01
TziI'll try it =)12:01
TziCheers!12:01
=== pc03 [~pc03@13.Red-83-40-205.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu
jintxoexcellent, good luck12:01
TziThanks =)12:01
=== Tzi [~margandch@adsl-131-218.swiftdsl.com.au] has left #ubuntu []
=== eaglee [~opera@81.211.124.49.adsl-spb.net.rol.ru] has joined #ubuntu
=== eaglee [~opera@81.211.124.49.adsl-spb.net.rol.ru] has left #ubuntu []
jintxonjs12345, well you don't actually insall it as a server, you just install it and then install whatever services you want it to run12:02
=== Potn [~potnhbug@ip136-167.bacs-net.hu] has joined #ubuntu
njs12345oh12:02
njs12345ok12:02
njs12345I was just wondering.. that's ok, I guess12:02
jintxonjs12345, you want to do anyhting specific with it (dns, dhcp, whatever)?12:03
=== padraig [~padraig@mckenna1996.plus.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== freak_ [~freak@237.151.99-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== Ylvj [~HoDS@dsl81-214-58319.adsl.ttnet.net.tr] has joined #ubuntu
=== TPC [tpwch@TCP-student-pdpc.love-sources] has left #ubuntu ["leaving"]
Quarupti wonder12:07
=== seb128 [~seb128@ANancy-151-1-36-82.w83-196.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu
njs12345jintxo: I'm going to set it up as a router for my home network12:07
njs12345I'm absolutely positive it'll do a better job of it then Windoze does atm ;)12:08
jintxonjs12345, for that you really don't need to much, is it going to do nat? I think you'll need to learn som iptables for that. I don'thave any experience with iptables (I use *BSD for the routers) but I understand it's fairly easy :-)12:09
Quaruptman how hard can it be to find this page12:10
Quarupti was there like 6 days ago12:10
njs12345jintxo: I've done some iptables before, it's fairly insanely eas12:10
njs12345*easy12:10
=== scizzo [~scizzo@c-ab0f72d5.01-113-76786a1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu
Quaruptthere is a webpage where you can download the limewire pro rpm12:10
njs12345I found a howto and set up a basic NAT in something like 20 secs before ;)12:10
Quaruptand its on the limewire site12:10
Quaruptsomewhere12:10
jintxonjs12345, great, I don't htink you'll have any problems then :-p12:11
njs12345it'll also do DHCP as well, which I have no experience with, but hopefully it's not too hard12:11
jintxojust out of curiosity, I ran into a floppy linux router distro the other day that looked nice, coyote linux12:11
=== Mitario [~michiel@sikkes.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu
njs12345anyone here have a fujitsu fdx310 ADSL modem?12:12
jintxonjs12345, dhcp is easy, just edit 1 config file (after apt-get install dhcpd)12:12
njs12345from what I can see, that's going to be the hardest to set up.. (the ADSL itself)12:12
=== Burn` [~Burnout@21.66-136-217.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu
njs12345I've found http://dsl-linux.tripod.com/index/12:12
njs12345but that looks pretty outdated..12:13
saifnjs12345 is that modem using ethernet or usb?12:13
njs12345usb12:13
njs12345and yeah, it's kinda crappy12:13
saifnjs12345 can't help u with that! :)12:13
njs12345why, is there an ethernet version of that modem?12:13
saifnjs12345 i donno, coz if it was ethernet whatever it is, it's easy to setup adsl. i have no knowldge on how to set up usb modems, and don't anything about your modem, sorry!12:14
njs12345oh, that's fine, I guess12:14
njs12345it doesn't look too hard to set up, at least12:14
njs12345I just hope the drivers aren't for linux 2.412:15
=== delphi [~delphi@host217-44-230-31.range217-44.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu
bob_saif, I have ethernet adsl and it wasn't very easy setting up. still is very slow...12:19
=== trukulo [~trukulo@62.57.69.176] has joined #ubuntu
trukuloif anyone is bored, can help me with a problem in my graphic card, an ati igp 320M (U1)12:22
=== Apeosr [~Bmfhhz@81-178-232-23.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ubuntu
trukuloi'm getting crazy with 3d acceleration12:22
scizzoIs it a very known problem that nvidia drivers and xorg is not working fine under hoary?12:22
trukuloscizzo, what kernel are you using?12:22
scizzomy ATI card and xorg is working just fine.....everything is smooth with that12:22
scizzo2.6.10-412:22
trukuloscizzo, igp cards have problems with 3d12:23
=== mameluke [~bo@84-72-8-213.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #ubuntu
jintxoscizzo, works OK for me, but not with the nvidia-glx stuff, I just user the nvidia installer from nvidia.com, no problems so far12:23
unamausscizzo u using dual monitors?12:23
trukuloscizzo, i suposse you read ubuntuforums about nvidia drivers, isn't it ?12:23
scizzounamaus: no12:23
unamausoh12:23
trukulohave you installed nvidia drivers from universe12:23
trukulorestricted kernel package ?12:23
scizzono not really....I think it is more the fact that xorg is eating the CPU a bit12:23
scizzotrukulo: yes12:24
trukulowhat card do you have?12:24
trukuloand don't tell me ace of hearts12:25
trukulo;)12:25
scizzoGeForce4 Ti 420012:25
=== apokryphos [~apokrypho@host-84-9-33-5.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu
trukuloscizzo, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1167112:26
_demian_hmmmz12:26
_demian_It doesn't work12:26
trukulono12:26
_demian_mounting the ntfs drive for example12:26
_demian_I follow the directions precise12:27
_demian_and still it doesn't work :(12:27
trukuloworks for me12:27
trukulontfs mount works for me in hoary12:27
_demian_what's hoary?12:28
uMkului think hoary is released in April, and is the development branch of Ubuntu until then12:28
trukulo_demian_, next version of ubuntu, development one, but it worked to me in hoary too12:28
_demian_is see12:29
scizzotrukulo: known issue then... :)12:29
_demian_released in april :)12:29
trukuloif you want to mount it with user perms, you have to modify /etc/fstab with uid options12:29
scizzotrukulo: thought it might be something like that....because of the other machine working fine with Xorg so...12:29
trukuloscizzo, yes12:29
_demian_on the site it says12:29
scizzotrukulo: lets just hope that xorg is going to be developed more and the drivers from nvidia are updated a little more also... :)12:29
trukuloscizzo, xorg works well here, but without 3d, known issue too, but with livecd glxinfo said to me i have 3d12:29
trukulois very strange12:29
_demian_ $ sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows -t ntfs -o umask=022212:30
trukuloscizzo, yes, it's a binary driver problem12:30
_demian_and it doesn't work12:30
_demian_I made the media/windows dir ofcourse12:30
trukulodo you have /media/windows created with correct perms ? 77712:30
_demian_oh...12:30
trukulo:)12:30
jintxoit's working fine for me (not with ubuntus nvidia-glx or restricted modules, but the installer from nividia.com). I'm using a custom built kernel, though so that may be why...12:30
=== ntoll [~ntoll@195.224.17.53] has joined #ubuntu
_demian_good point :)12:30
_demian_how do I change perms ?12:30
trukulojintxo, kernel 2.6.10 of hoary has known problems with nvidia12:31
trukulo_demian_, sudo chmod 777 /media/windows12:31
jintxotrukulo, ah, so that's why it works ok for me :-)12:31
ntoll_demian_, try a different hair dresser? :-P12:31
trukulojintxo, porbably12:31
scizzotrukulo: I like the ati stuff....its easy to setupd12:32
scizzotrukulo: -d12:32
_demian_ntoll I will :P12:32
=== beyond [~beyond@200-206-134-238.async.com.br] has joined #ubuntu
_demian_butehm... it says it doesnt know the directory /media/windows12:32
ntollok... I've googled on this but can't seem to find the info I need. Basically, what is the status of PHP5 in Ubuntu. PHP5 has been out quite a while and although Warty comes with PHP4 how do I check whats coming in Hoary?12:32
trukuloscizzo, not with igp cards12:33
trukulophp5 it's in hoary12:33
ntollI want to do some web development with Prado (which requires PHP5) AND use my fav. linux distro at the same time (have my cake and eat it)12:34
trukulov   php5                            -12:34
trukulov   php5-cgi                        -12:34
trukulov   php5-cli                        -12:34
trukulov   php5-gd                         -12:34
trukulov   php5-mysql                      -12:34
trukulov   php5-mysqli                     -12:34
=== beyond [~beyond@200-206-134-238.async.com.br] has left #ubuntu ["Don't]
ntolltrukulo, excellent! How did you find that out?12:34
trukuloso install hoary in a test machine12:34
trukulontoll, i'm in hoaru: aptitude search php512:34
ntolltrukulo, is that like in regular debian? just do a dist upgrade12:34
trukuloyes12:34
=== beyond [~beyond@200-206-134-238.async.com.br] has joined #ubuntu
trukulochange apt-sources , and dist-upgrade12:35
uMkulutrukulo: that doesn't look right12:35
_demian_mount: mount point /media/windows does not exist12:35
trukulouMkulu ?12:35
uMkulutrukulo?12:35
_demian_grmbl12:35
scizzotrukulo: thanks for the help.. :)12:35
trukulouMkulu, is right12:35
trukuloit's a virtual package, not a real one12:35
Dutchy(12:00:41) (_demian_) dutchy :) <= ?12:35
_demian_I'm dutch :)12:35
trukulontoll, there's no php5 i'm hoary yet12:36
_demian_nice to see another one ;)12:36
Dutchylol12:36
trukulo_demian_, use /mnt/windows12:36
=== rapha [~rapha@p54A08DB3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu
_demian_you know anything about ubuntu?12:36
trukulodon't use /media12:36
=== Potn [~potnhbug@ip136-167.bacs-net.hu] has joined #ubuntu
trukuloit's not a removable drive, correct path is /mnt/windows12:36
_demian_trukulo, thnx12:36
trukuloworks the same, but mnt is more logical12:37
=== stisoas [stisoas@AClermont-Ferrand-251-1-39-177.w81-251.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu
=== darkk [dark@81.213.228.9] has joined #ubuntu
darkkhttp://www.tcpsecurity.com/12:37
=== darkk [dark@81.213.228.9] has left #ubuntu []
trukuloso, no one can help me with my ati igp problem?12:38
trukuloi supossed it, it's very strange12:38
ntolltrukulo, thanks for the help12:39
trukulontoll, wou're wellcome12:39
Quarupthowcome something works when i type it in the terminal as any user, but if i try to make a launcher it doesnt?12:41
trukuloQuarupt, use full path: /usr/bin/mozilla-firefox i.e.12:42
pc03an often asked question..12:42
pc03from a clean system point of view.. what do i install mplayer or xine or totem-xine12:43
=== orp [~orp@82.155.57.254] has joined #ubuntu
trukulopc03, i, for myself, install the 312:43
trukuloi use all of them, for different things12:44
Quarupttrukulo, i put /usr/bin/limewire still didnt work12:44
_demian_mkdir windows 777 is making a dir with all perms right?12:44
Quaruptbut works from a terminal?12:44
trukuloQuarupt, write in shell: whereis limewire12:44
trukulo_demian_, right12:44
Quaruptit there12:44
_demian_cool12:44
Quarupt/usr/bin/limewire12:44
trukuloQuarupt, umm, strange12:45
Quarupt?12:45
Quaruptso...12:45
trukuloso don't know12:45
trukulolimewire is a debian package?12:45
=== davix [~lama@85-64-144-198.barak.net.il] has joined #ubuntu
Quaruptno12:45
Quarupti had to build it12:45
Quaruptbut this doesnt make sense12:46
Quaruptit runs fine from a terminal12:46
trukuloyou're right, it's very strange12:46
Quaruptmust be a java thing12:46
trukuloit uses java?12:46
orpis not a trojam like kazza12:46
trukulocat /usr/bin/limewire12:46
trukuloit's a binary or a script?12:46
=== wurm [~gregor@c215014.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu
Quarupt#!/bin/bash12:47
Quaruptcd /usr/lib/LimeWire12:47
Quaruptsh runLime.sh12:47
Quaruptsean@UBunBOX:~ $12:47
Quaruptscript12:47
trukulothere you have12:47
Quaruptso12:47
trukuloit's using sh12:47
Quarupttheres no way to make it work without a terminal?12:47
trukuloso make a new script12:47
=== davix [~lama@85-64-144-198.barak.net.il] has joined #ubuntu
Quarupti dunno how12:48
trukulomake launcher working directory: /usr/lib/LimeWire12:48
trukulochmod 755 runLime.sh12:48
trukuloand execute /usr/lib/LimeWire/runLime.sh12:48
trukuloinstead of /usr/bin/limewire12:49
Quaruptlol so i will stil have to use a terminal12:49
pc03trukulo. thx. thought that mplayer would cover everything..12:49
=== mips1 [~mips@ndn-165-149-211.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu
trukuloQuarupt, only for configuring it12:49
trukulopc03, yes, but i prefer totem , and xine for movies with subtitles12:49
trukuloas i said, it's a matter of personal likes12:50
=== brosio [~brosio@host112-140.pool8248.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu
brosiobut why ubuntu by default install gnome ?12:50
brosioxchat and many program without ask ?12:50
trukulobrosio, because they decided it12:51
trukuloit's the default behaviour12:51
trukulouse expert install if you prefer12:51
_4strOit's the 'distribution' function12:51
_4strOchoice some paquage12:51
brosiotrukulo, i chose expert12:51
brosiobut after selected apt source12:52
brosioit began to install many shit12:52
trukulobrosio, it's a desktop distribution12:52
trukuloit installs desktop applications12:52
trukuloin next releases, they will make server version of ubuntu12:52
_4strOhh12:53
=== Kqikxs [~Phccxywo@85.96.3.239] has joined #ubuntu
trukuloanway, if you prefer to choose everything, just use debian sarge12:53
Quarupttrukulo, how do ya make the launchers working directory?12:53
brosiotrukulo, fuck ubuntu i'll reboot to debian pure64 ;)12:53
brosioanyway thx for the explaination12:53
brosiobye12:53
=== Sepheebear [~SepheeBea@24-193-111-253.nyc.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
trukuloQuarupt, don't know well, in properties, i don't use limewire nor any program like that12:54
trukulobrosio, ubuntu is not for everyone, as any other distro12:54
Quaruptall i get in the launcher is description command and comment12:54
trukuloit has a target use12:54
trukuloQuarupt, so don't know12:54
Quaruptwhat?12:54
trukulobut it's a problem of limewire executable12:55
Quaruptcant i just amke a symlink?12:55
trukuloit's very ... stupid12:55
trukulono, you can't12:55
Quaruptno cause it runs olay from terminal12:55
Quaruptall i do is type ./runLime.sh12:55
=== Sepheebear [~SepheeBea@24-193-111-253.nyc.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
trukulobut you need a working directory12:55
trukulothat's stupid12:56
Quaruptso can i make a script and put it on my desktop?12:56
trukuloperhaps12:56
Quaruptand then click it12:56
trukuloQuarupt, but i can't help you12:56
Quaruptwhat would the script say?12:56
Quaruptwhy?12:56
trukuloyou have to look at it12:56
_demian_where can i find a list with all commands for the terminal?12:56
Quarupti dunno how to write a script12:56
=== NetwrkMonkey [~Monkey@netwrkmonkey.user] has joined #ubuntu
trukulobecause i don't have that program and don't know how to use it12:57
trukuloanyway, why use limewire?12:57
trukulodon't you prefer amule ?12:57
trukuloor emule?12:57
uMkulusomebody said emule was win12:57
Echyloamule sucky :P12:57
Quaruptcause its faster and better that gtk-gnutella12:57
Quaruptway faster than any mule program12:57
Echyloamule won't download anything here at fast speeds12:57
_demian_true12:57
_demian_and queue's are long12:57
Echyloif I use torrent I get 300 kbs12:57
trukuloso Quarupt , you have to do the script12:57
Quaruptlimewire is the best p2p there is no question12:57
_demian_yeah use torrent12:57
Quarupti dunno how to write a script12:58
=== bumperland [~bumper@69-162-201-196.bflony.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu
trukuloQuarupt, i prefer azureus12:58
=== kzm [~ketil@133.80-202-98.nextgentel.com] has joined #ubuntu
trukuloQuarupt, then you have to learn12:58
EchyloI download 5,5gig music with torrent on 5 days12:58
Quaruptazureus is a toorent client12:58
EchyloI prefer bittornado12:58
trukuloi know it's a torrent client12:58
Quarupttorrent12:58
Quaruptnot a p2p12:58
trukulothat's what i use12:58
trukuloit's p2p12:58
trukulotorrent is p2p12:58
Quarupttorrents are broken half the time and you have to search all over the web12:59
trukulodepend what you download12:59
Quaruptno12:59
trukuloi don't download music12:59
Quaruptyou allways have to search the web12:59
pc03i'd say yes.12:59
trukuloyes12:59
Quaruptfor any torrent12:59
_demian_Quarupt, www.torrentspy.com12:59
pc03look for a good torrent index site.12:59
trukuloQuarupt, you're right12:59
Quarupthalf the trackers are allways down12:59
trukuloQuarupt, i agree with you01:00
Quaruptitys crap01:00
pc03there are lots, even after nova*01:00
trukulobut it's not a crap, it's a matter of what you want01:00
Quaruptand there constantly getting shut down01:00
pc03trukulo.. what do you suggest for p2p in linux..01:00
Quaruptand if there is a 3rd party involved its not considered p2p01:00
trukulopc03, azureus01:00
=== coroner [~coroner@203.51.161.159] has joined #ubuntu
QuaruptTorrent is not P@P01:00
=== lrojas [~lrojas@98stb51.codetel.net.do] has joined #ubuntu
QuaruptP2P01:01
=== universal [~universal@port989.ds1-khk.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu
Quaruptwiki p2p01:01
Quaruptit even says there01:01
trukuloQuarupt, p2p it's peer to peer, torrent works that way01:01
Quaruptno torrent relies on a 3rd party a tracker01:01
Quaruptso therefor its not a peer to peer01:01
=== Sepheebear [~SepheeBea@24-193-111-253.nyc.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
trukuloi don't agree with you01:01
pc03 i have not tried anything else.. what would be number 2?01:01
Quaruptlol, agree with wiki01:01
trukulocommunication it's peer to peer, but seeds rely on servers01:01
Quaruptthast redundant01:02
universaldoes someone know how to install nvidia drivers from nvidia.com in ubuntu?01:02
Quaruptpeer to peer means you only need to connect to other peers not a tracker01:02
trukulopeer to peer means you download client-to-client01:03
Quaruptwhat do you allways have to put in the first line of a script01:03
Quarupttrukulo, just wiki it you will see your wrong01:03
QuaruptTorrents incolve three parties therefor they are not to be considered P2P01:04
=== k40z [~k40zmotic@82.153.69.225] has joined #ubuntu
Quaruptbecause you must remain connected to a tracker as well as the other peer(s)01:04
QuaruptAnyways call it whatever you want, its still crap01:04
_demian_the tracker is just a thing dat shows your pc where to find that file on other pc's01:05
=== vIkSiT [~Viksit@210.212.200.5] has joined #ubuntu
_demian_hahaha01:05
pc03Quarupt. that is not correct.. you can disconnect from the tracker in a dl..01:05
Quaruptthe MPAA is shutting one torrent search engine down a day01:05
njs12345bt is not truly p2p01:05
Quaruptthank you01:05
pc03the only thing is that no extra peers can connect when the tracker is down01:05
QuaruptIts not a P2P01:05
trukuloQuarupt, in wikipedia, torrent is an example of p2p01:05
Quaruptjust look it up01:05
Quaruptyou will see01:05
Quaruptno its not01:06
QuaruptI will get the url01:06
njs12345freenet is an example of p2p01:06
trukuloread it01:06
Quarupt1 sec01:06
pc03does it matter?01:06
trukulohttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P2p01:06
trukulopc03, it's funny01:06
Quaruptlmao he is just flaming now01:06
njs12345hmm01:06
trukuloQuarupt, no, read it please01:06
trukuloi'm not flaming01:06
_demian_anyways.... can someone tell me where to find an overview of all commands in a termianl?01:06
=== lok [~heka@facultes-3-82-228-151-150.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu
njs12345according to wikipedia01:06
njs12345 A peer-to-peer (or P2P) computer network is any network that does not rely on dedicated servers for communication but instead mostly uses direct connections between clients (peers).01:06
njs12345note the word "mostly"01:06
njs12345so according to wikipedia bittorrent is p2p, because most of the connections are p2p01:07
Quaruptjust give up he is to stuborn01:07
trukuloclient and server relates to trasnfer connection01:07
pc03dont think peers are connected via the tracker..01:07
pc03tracker is only needed to identif oher peers01:07
trukuloseeds only made the communication betwen peers, transfer is pure peer to peer01:07
apokryphosYes, tracker is only for locating torrents, like websites/forums.01:07
Quaruptbut without it you have nothing01:07
trukuloQuarupt, that's right, but it's p2p01:08
njs12345yes01:08
Quaruptso therefor you are dependent of a 3rd party server to connect01:08
trukuloas a transfer protocol01:08
Quaruptnow he is changing his story01:08
trukuloQuarupt, you need servers in emule01:08
GoneBoBok01:08
njs12345however, BT is p2p "enough" for purposes.. it's diffiicult beyond belief to design a truly p2p system01:08
trukulois it p2p as you need 3rd party?01:08
GoneBoBthis whole thing is totally offtopic01:08
GoneBoBplease take this discussion elsewhere01:09
pc03Quarupt.. that's true for every p2p.. at some point you need to identify your 1st other peer01:09
Quaruptnope01:09
_demian_anyways.... can someone tell me where to find an overview of all commands in a termianl?01:09
Quaruptthats not true01:09
_demian_dudes I need help :)01:09
trukuloedonkey have servers, emule too, it's the same as trackers01:09
GoneBoB_demian_: um... there are 1151 commands in /usr/bin alone01:09
Quarupt_demian_, you mean just basic bash commands or all the bins in your distro?01:09
trukulo_demian_, look for a newbie terminal guide on google: "commands linux"01:09
Quarupttrukulo, he just wants bash commands01:10
_demian_trukulo, you're right01:10
Quaruptnot all his bins01:10
_demian_I don't know what i want01:10
_demian_cause I'm new at this01:10
_demian_:)01:10
trukuloQuarupt, that's what i'm saying, commands in linux01:10
Quaruptyou just wanna learn cp ls ln mv rm ..etc?01:10
trukulonot bins for terminal01:10
_demian_i need to delete a dir :)01:10
trukuloevery binary on linux is a command01:10
Quaruptthats rm01:10
trukulorm -r01:11
trukulofor directories01:11
=== herzi [~herzi@linux-tage.tu-chemnitz.de] has joined #ubuntu
_demian_but it would be nice to know where to find the rest of the commands :)01:11
Quaruptyea but he wants BASH commands listen01:11
Quaruptjesus01:11
=== mz2 [~mz@81-1-75-195.homechoice.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu
_demian_so I don't have to ask all the time :)01:11
trukulo_demian_, you need basic comands01:11
_demian_okee01:11
Quaruptman bash01:11
Quaruptsirst off01:11
=== herzi [~herzi@linux-tage.tu-chemnitz.de] has left #ubuntu []
Quaruptfirst*01:11
_demian_trukulo, where do I find those?01:11
trukulohttp://www.linux.com/guides/abs-guide/basic.shtml01:11
Quaruptthen google basic shell commands01:11
trukulothere01:11
GoneBoB_demian_: also here http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/cli.html01:11
trukuloQuarupt, not shell, linux01:11
trukulothere's a lot of shells in the world01:12
Quaruptdude he just said01:12
trukulo:)01:12
Quarupthe wants stuff like rm01:12
apokryphostell _demian_ rute01:12
Quaruptthats a SHELL command01:12
trukuloQuarupt, windows has a shell too, and os2, even dos01:12
apokryphosPyre: tell _demian_ rute01:12
Pyre_demian_: http://www.icon.co.za/~psheer/book/index.html.gz01:12
QuaruptI dont think you should be helping people01:12
trukuloevery OS has a shell01:12
njs12345dos is basically just a shell01:12
_demian_thnx01:12
trukulo_demian_, did i help you ?01:12
_demian_now you can go an argueing :P01:12
=== FuzzyTheBear [~FuzzyNatu@h-69-3-171-228.miatflad.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu
_demian_trukulo, I don't know but now I have a place to search :)01:13
Quarupthttp://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=basic+shell+commands&btnG=Google+Search01:13
=== FuzzyTheBear [~FuzzyNatu@h-69-3-171-228.miatflad.dynamic.covad.net] has left #ubuntu ["gone]
=== allio is now known as allio`afk
Quaruptlook what happens whn ya google basic shell commands01:13
Quaruptevery result for the first 10 pages is linux basic shell commands01:13
trukuloyou have shells for other OS in that page too01:13
Quaruptno there isnt01:14
Quaruptnot untill page 1101:14
trukulounix shell it's not the same as linux shell (mostly bash)01:14
Quarupttea click the link01:14
_demian_that's why i needed you to give me some good sites01:14
trukulo6th reference in first page it's not for linux01:14
Quaruptits just rm and cp01:14
Quaruptthose are linux too01:14
trukulobut options are not the same01:14
=== bumperland [~bumper@69-162-201-196.bflony.adelphia.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
Quaruptlmao01:15
trukuloyou don't even have df or du there01:15
Quaruptyour the most stuborn person i have ever met, i doubt he would click BASIC DOS COMMANDS when he is looking for linux commands01:15
Quaruptthink a lilo before you type01:15
Quarupttake a communications class01:15
Quarupttake a pill01:16
trukulohave you read yourself?01:16
pc03lets all quiet down and help who needs help.. right?01:16
=== Mantle [~ubuntu@61-224-52-56.dynamic.hinet.net] has joined #ubuntu
Quaruptyes and so has everyone else in this chan01:16
trukulopc03, ok01:16
Quaruptnow please don't attempt to help anyone01:16
_demian_it does make it lively in here :)01:16
=== ceu [~ruut@194-185-82-18.f5.ngi.it] has joined #ubuntu
GoneBoBplease.. http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct01:16
GoneBoBif you need to read some things, read that :)01:17
Quaruptlol01:17
ceumozilla-firefox in warty-backports will be upgraded to 1.0.1?01:17
=== vIkSiT [~Viksit@210.212.200.5] has joined #ubuntu
=== damripp [~damripp@as-bri-4-1-3.ozonline.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
lokI can't boot my winxp partition with grub (it's an ntfs partition), I've seen no error message it's just that when I try to boot it the grub's menu stay at the screen and nothings change ... a solution ?01:18
lrojascan i ask why does ubuntu decided to use sudo instead of just enabling the root user?01:18
trukulolrojas, security01:18
lrojasisnt sudo less secure?01:19
Quaruptlrojas, if ya don't like it, just type sudo passwd01:19
trukulono, you can track what a user do01:19
damrippwhat command do i use to add 800x600 to one of the res01:19
damrippwhat command do i use to add 800x600 to one of the res's i can use?01:19
trukuloand it's more difficult to make brute password attacks01:19
lrojasi c01:19
Quaruptdamripp, you need to edit you /etc/X11/xorg.conf01:19
loknobody can help me with grub ?01:20
Mitariohmm, if I add a printer, how do I know which usb printer # it gets in gnome-cups-manager?01:20
trukulodamripp, warty or hoary?01:20
=== max_ [~max@138-238.240.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu
Mitarios/add/connect01:20
damrippwarty01:20
trukulodamripp, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree8601:20
trukulouse medium for resolution01:21
Quaruptit would be easier to edit you conf01:21
lrojasone more question, why Xfree86 over Xorg?01:21
trukuloQuarupt, there's no xorg.conf in warty01:21
trukulolrojas, because warty has xfree86, not xorg01:21
=== Goshawk [~Goshawk@host86-171.pool8251.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu
Quaruptuhm is uses Xorg with the CD01:21
QuaruptI will bet you on that01:22
trukulonot warty, i'm sure01:22
damrippyeah, well im running 640x480, most progams too big.01:22
QuaruptNo your wrong again01:22
Quarupttype x-server -version01:22
Quaruptdamripp,01:22
lrojasi know that, i am asking why choose xfree86 over xorg, when xfree seems to be going in an undesirable licesing direction and Xorg seems to be the new standard01:22
QuaruptWarty ises Xorg01:23
Quaruptuses01:23
psiQuarupt: no01:23
Quaruptby default01:23
trukulolrojas, because when warty was made, there's no xorg packages for debian01:23
lrojasok, that i understand01:23
=== YankDownUnder [~stephen@d220-237-210-77.dsl.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has left #ubuntu ["We're]
Quaruptwtf boot a warty live cd and type x-server -version01:23
trukuloand transition was difficult, daniel stone and fabio di masimo works for transition in hoary01:23
RattWorkQuarupt: warty live cd is knoppix, basically01:23
=== monoxide [~monoxide@dialup-69.78.221.203.acc15-dryb-mel.comindico.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
trukuloRattWork, i think it was morphix01:24
lrojasso warty live cd is not warty live cd ?01:24
Quaruptokay do a clean instal from a warty cd, and type x-server -version01:24
RattWorklrojas: kinda :P01:24
psiQuarupt: XFree86 Version 4.3.0.101:24
trukuloQuarupt, sorry man, you're wrong01:24
QuaruptI know i used the CD they sent in the mail, and it used Xorg by default01:24
lrojasanybody here has had experience with FC3 ?01:25
trukuloQuarupt, warty live cd it' not the same as warty install cd01:25
trukulowarty installed on hd, uses xfree8601:25
monoxidehi guys, bash is giving me a wierd prompt for non-root users, "I have no name!@matthew-linux:~ $", and also ssh is giving wierd output. both seem to work fine as root though....01:25
monoxideI have no name!@matthew-linux:~ $ ssh -h01:25
monoxideYou don't exist, go away!01:25
Quarupti didnt say the live cd01:25
QuaruptThe install cd01:26
QuaruptIt uses Xorg01:26
damripptrukulo: after running sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86, it asks me what driver to use. will it highlight the right one?01:26
trukulodamripp, what graphic card do you have?01:26
damripppermedia tnt2 i think01:26
trukulodamripp, use nv01:26
QuaruptThen howcome when i did a clean install of warty it used Xorg?01:27
trukuloQuarupt, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/x.org/view?searchterm=xfree8601:27
monoxideanyone have any ideas?01:27
Quaruptthats with the old build01:27
Quaruptthe ones they ship now use Xorg01:28
trukulowarty has only one build01:28
Quaruptno security updates huh?01:28
=== eric__ [~epstevns@cpe-69-202-196-13.stny.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
damripptrukulo: permedia 201:28
Quaruptwanna bet?01:28
damrippnv?01:28
trukulosecurity is by network, not in cd01:28
trukulodamripp, nvidia one01:28
QuaruptYou are wrong01:28
Mitariohmm, when I 'lpr' a file it stays in 'lpq' for a while and then dissappears, but nothing is printed01:28
_demian_hahaha01:28
=== Djyuf [~UZWlVY@85.96.3.239] has joined #ubuntu
_demian_says here I can install a firewall01:29
=== AngryClip [~kvirc@jriley1984.plus.com] has joined #ubuntu
damripphow much memory should i allocate?01:29
_demian_why should I01:29
trukuloQuarupt, i'm using ubuntu since prerelase of warty, know in person X developers of ubuntu01:29
_demian_I thought that was the beauty of linux?01:29
damrippi think its a 4meg AGP card.01:29
jdubQuarupt: warty shipped with xfree86. it has not and will not be updated to use xorg. xorg is in hoary only.01:29
trukulotalked to him a lot of time, and ther made conferences in my lug01:29
trukuloand jdub it's an ubuntu developer, release manager of ubuntu, and he doesn't find his trousers01:29
Quaruptjdub, I am using warty i will send you a file to prove it and i am also using x.org want my config?01:30
jdubtrukulo: :-)01:30
trukuloQuarupt, jdub is RELEASE MANAGER OF UBUNTU !!01:30
monoxide_demian_, linux has its holes like everything else01:30
jdubQuarupt: not really, i'm happy to not believe you either way :)01:30
Quaruptlmao01:30
Quarupti will just embaress you by pastebin 'n em for all to see01:30
jdubQuarupt: cat /etc/lsb-release01:30
_demian_monoxide, why would anyone want to attack a linux pc then?01:30
trukulojdub, do you have a gun for me, please?01:31
monoxide_demian_, same reason they would want to attack a win pc?01:31
Quaruptthere its paste binned the link and this log are posted on the forums01:31
Quaruptlmao01:31
_demian_monoxide, I always believed it was to hassle bill gates01:32
_demian_to show him he made f******** software01:32
monoxideheh01:32
trukuloQuarupt, do you know what a release manager is?01:32
_demian_like the new w32 viruses01:32
monoxideso noone can help me with my problem?01:32
Quarupttrukulo, no one is listening to you01:32
Quaruptstop slaming01:32
=== vpalle [~vpalle@park222.koll.au.dk] has joined #ubuntu
trukuloQuarupt, you are, in fact01:32
trukulolol01:33
_demian_it has a line in it somewhere where it says that gates should make windows better01:33
_demian_:)01:33
jdubguys, not worth pursuing the discussion01:33
=== psy [~psy@a80-126-83-214.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu
Quaruptmonoxide,  state your problem again01:33
eric__hi ~ is the Update Manager bound to the apt/sources file?01:33
monoxideif Quarupt would shuttup for long enough maybe someone would see it....01:33
monoxideand trukulo01:33
jduberic__: yes01:33
trukulojdub, can you give me a hand please?01:33
jdubtrukulo: with?01:33
trukulomy graphic card, it's very strange01:33
monoxide<monoxide> hi guys, bash is giving me a wierd prompt for non-root users, "I have no name!@matthew-linux:~ $", and also ssh is giving wierd output. both seem to work fine as root though....01:33
monoxide<monoxide> I have no name!@matthew-linux:~ $ ssh -h01:33
monoxide<monoxide> You don't exist, go away!01:33
=== hypn0 [~chatzilla@host81-7-60-113.surfport24.v21.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu
trukulojdub, with live cd , glxinfo gives me DRI yes01:34
_demian_that's not verry nice01:34
eric__thanks.  so 3rd party reps would also show up in the update list-01:34
_demian_:)01:34
trukulobut with hoary installed, i can't have dri working01:34
apokryphoseric__: that's right.01:34
trukulousing ati igp 320M01:34
eric__:)  very nice. thx01:34
trukulohave all the modules: ati_igp, drm, radeon...01:34
jdubtrukulo: daniels is the man to ask01:35
trukulojdub, i know, but he's sleeping01:35
trukuloi'll ask him later, thanks anyway01:35
BeTathere are too much bot here01:35
monoxideeric__, any programs that do updates use the /etc/sources list01:35
BeTacrappy djyuf !01:35
BeTais there a possibility to avoid this ?01:35
eric__this is what i expected,  but thought i'd dbl check01:36
monoxideQuarupt, did you get that?01:36
Quaruptmonoxide, get what?01:36
BeTathis kind of bot starts crappy /queries /w sex URLs... that's not great01:36
Quaruptsorry i wasnt paying attention im searching for an rpm01:36
=== ceu [~ruut@194-185-82-18.f5.ngi.it] has left #ubuntu ["Client]
monoxideeric__, unless of course it is designed to only update a single program, but i havent heard of any of those01:37
monoxideQuarupt, my problem :/01:37
monoxidehi guys, bash is giving me a wierd prompt for non-root users, "I have no name!@matthew-linux:~ $", and also ssh is giving wierd output. both seem to work fine as root though....01:38
monoxideI have no name!@matthew-linux:~ $ ssh -h01:38
uMkului already had it that way, monoxide.01:38
monoxideYou don't exist, go away!01:38
=== Kevin [xxc@85.97.91.77] has joined #ubuntu
Kevinhttp://www.tcpsecurity.com/01:38
Quaruptit returns that as output?01:38
=== Kevin [xxc@85.97.91.77] has left #ubuntu []
eric__most likely a work in progress.  But I like the looks of it and the possibilities for the package01:38
monoxideQuarupt, yes01:39
Quaruptweird01:39
monoxideI have no name!@matthew-linux:~ $ ssh -h01:40
monoxideYou don't exist, go away!01:40
monoxideI have no name!@matthew-linux:~ $01:40
monoxidebut it all works fine via sudo01:40
=== ilcra1989 [~ilcra1989@167.Red-81-33-98.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu
Quaruptjust not as your user01:40
Quaruptmaybe the sshd is setup to only listen to root?01:40
=== octom [~octom@159-134-228-38.as1.tre.dublin.eircom.net] has joined #ubuntu
monoxideany user, except root01:40
Quaruptif it works with sudo then it is listening to root01:41
monoxidethat still doesnt explain the bash prompt01:41
monoxidethat happens on a non graphical console as well01:41
Quaruptoh the no name01:41
Quaruptcheck your bash.bashrc01:42
=== queuetue [~Scott@h69-21-252-54.69-21.unk.tds.net] has joined #ubuntu
Quaruptwow its 5am01:43
queuetueHi.  Where is the "system bell sound" defined?  I want to replace the drum hit every time I hit tab in bash with something more subtle, but can't find the right setting in sounds...01:43
Mitariolol I just documented the XML RPC commands of BOINC01:43
Mitariowoops wrong channel01:44
monoxidecant see anything odd in there, but then again i dont know bash scripting very well01:44
Myrttiplonk.01:44
trukulomonoxide, have you change any perm on system?01:44
monoxidetrukulo, pardon?01:44
trukulohave you changed any permision on your system?01:44
=== Goshawk [~Goshawk@host86-171.pool8251.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu
monoxidedont think so, definently not since i noticed this anyway01:45
trukuloyou are using warty with root account enabled?01:46
Quarupthe means did ya do sudo passwd01:46
lrojasi have a situation and i would like some advice if anyone can give it, since i am a known linux user at work, i been asked to setup a Live Video Streaming Solution by my boss, i promised i would investigate but so far is very messy the information relating to that. Any ideas on what could i do01:47
=== damripp [~damripp@as-bri-4-1-3.ozonline.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
damrippi have no GNOME now!01:48
Quaruptlol01:48
Quaruptuhoh01:48
monoxideim using hoary with root enabled01:48
Quaruptwhat did ya do?01:48
damrippno dislplay01:48
=== rwabel [~rwabel@gw.ptr-80-238-133-42.customer.ch.netstream.com] has joined #ubuntu
Quaruptya used the wrong driver01:48
Quaruptprobably01:48
damrippwhat truklo told me to do01:48
Quaruptcheck your logs01:48
trukulomonoxide, do you have users in /home ?01:49
Quaruptthat was a bad isea01:49
damrippsudo dpkg-reconfigure x. etc.01:49
trukulodamripp, your X conf is wrong, made again01:49
=== darkling [~hugo@217.205.62.19] has joined #ubuntu
monoxidetrukulo, the users are in /home and /etc/passwd01:49
=== octom_ [~octom@159-134-228-98.as1.tre.dublin.eircom.net] has joined #ubuntu
Quaruptnv is not the correct driver for your card01:49
damrippyeah i did, i made it like the basic config. still doesnt work01:49
Quaruptcheck your logs for (EE)01:50
monoxideohhhhh... fixed :)01:50
trukulomonoxide, what was?01:50
monoxidechmod 644 /etc/passwd01:50
monoxideit was 60001:50
trukuloperms01:50
trukulolrojas, http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/672001:50
lrojasthanks trukulo01:51
trukulomonoxide, so it was permisions01:51
monoxidetrukulo, yea01:51
trukulodamripp, try driver vesa01:51
monoxidedamn....01:51
monoxide:/ i changed that too... no idea it could screw things up so bad...01:52
octom_hi I have downloaded the marillat files all together and put them in this directory /home/octom/marillat/cdrom (because this is a dial up not dsl) now I have a lot of .deb files any idea on how I get them onto the machine itself?01:52
trukuloperms changed on /etc always make problems01:52
damripphow do i try vesa?01:52
=== monoxide notes _NEVER_ to do that again
trukulodamripp, configuring again01:52
trukulooctom, sudo dpkg -i *deb01:52
octom_trukulo, thanks01:53
=== Xappe [~jon@regulus3.student.UU.SE] has joined #ubuntu
monoxidedamripp, i have cofigured X at least 20 times to get it working just right :)01:53
damrippyeah everytime i run it. i try startx after running it. and i get errros.01:53
trukulodamripp, what errors?01:53
trukuloperhaps is mouse errors, not graphic driver error01:53
Quaruptdamripp, you need to read the log to make sure its even your driver01:53
damrippok ok....01:54
Quaruptwow trukulo we just agreed on something01:54
Quaruptscary01:54
monoxideheh01:54
damripp(EE) no devices detected01:55
damrippis that it?01:55
=== cprov [~cprov@200.158.100.251] has joined #ubuntu
trukuloyou tried vesa?01:56
damrippvesa instead of nv?01:56
trukuloyes01:56
=== _4strO is now known as _4strO|b1
octom_trukulo, thanks for that - I had to add a * but what's a * between ubuntu users :)  now I have them lets see what happens when I try to run em :)01:57
membreyahey guys01:58
=== Ivy6Quaff [~Sir@c906a0a6.virtua.com.br] has joined #ubuntu
damripp(EE) VESA(0): no matching modes01:59
damripp(EE) screns found but, none have a usable configuration01:59
damrippfatal error 10402:00
damrippfuck02:01
damrippi shoulddda back up some sorta file.02:01
=== moyogo [~moyogo@Toronto-HSE-ppp3717779.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu
=== jbailey [~jbailey@CPE000ded9d787c-CM014260028338.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== lok [~heka@facultes-3-82-228-151-150.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu
lokhi can someone told me what's the default runlevel on ubuntu ?02:04
trukulo202:04
damrippoh no. what am i going to do.02:04
lokthanks trukulo02:04
damripptrukulo: does it matter im using tty1 for irc and tty2 for configuring?02:05
trukulono02:05
=== TexJoachim [~TexJoachi@p508BCEB6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== zeedo [~zeedo@www.bsrf.org.uk] has joined #ubuntu
=== rapha [~rapha@p54A08DB3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu
damrippwhen i installed ubuntu originally it never asked me what driver to use eg; nv, vesa....02:07
=== fgx [~fgx@host244-175.pool8256.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu
damrippcan i run that config again?02:07
=== housetier [~housetier@dsl-084-056-135-229.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== Loevborg [~loevborg@d5-168.dip.isp-service.de] has joined #ubuntu
=== apokryphos7 [~apokrypho@host-84-9-32-191.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== InitMass [~InitMass@c83-248-162-140.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu
Quarupthow do ya unindtall something with dpkg02:12
Quaruptuninstall02:12
Quaruptis it like dpkg --uninstall?02:12
=== luigi_ [~luigi@d81-211-179-173.cust.tele2.it] has joined #ubuntu
=== florent_ [~florent@80.125.221.190] has joined #ubuntu
damrippyeah mutherfcker, it was glint trukulo! which is what it was higliehgt first place02:13
damrippdefualt02:13
InitMassif i'm not sure which soundcard i've got in my laptop how can i check it?02:13
luigi_hi02:14
raphaHi all!02:16
raphaHow do you configure SSH so that no key is required?02:16
_demian_where are programs usually installed?02:19
=== kisu [~yo@218.237.126.167] has joined #ubuntu
=== LinuxJones [~LinuxJone@blk-222-206-208.eastlink.ca] has joined #ubuntu
=== joeblow1234 [~chatzilla@S0106000c6ec62859.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu
_demian_where are programs usually installed?02:23
_demian_anyone?02:23
=== intero [~desktop@81-208-106-71.fastres.net] has left #ubuntu ["Bye]
=== snotling [~snotling@laf31-5-82-235-128-93.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu
_demian_i liked it better when they where argueing :)02:24
_demian_at least then I got an answer :D02:24
=== trukulo [~trukulo@176.red-62-57-69.user.auna.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== InitMass_ [~InitMass@c83-248-162-140.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu
=== InitMass [~InitMass@c83-248-162-140.bredband.comhem.se] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
=== InitMass [~InitMass@c83-248-162-140.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu
=== mseney [~mseney@70-97-140-21.dsl1.glv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined #ubuntu
InitMassis ubuntu using ALSA or OSS as default??02:29
trukulowhat ubuntu? hoary or warty?02:31
=== maskie_ is now known as maskie
InitMasswarty02:32
=== kayali [kayali@ALamentin-101-1-10-73.w81-248.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu
trukuloalsa02:33
trukuloand hoary too02:33
trukulolol02:33
=== LordC [~lordc@cpc4-mfld3-4-0-cust215.nott.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu
kayalihello02:33
uMkuluque tal, kayali02:33
InitMasshehe02:33
kayaliuMkulu: I'm fine02:33
uMkulukayali: i'm not following you...02:33
InitMassany advice in the setting up process? shouls i use alsa or oss in xmms?02:33
=== fran [~fran@126.Red-80-59-17.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu
kayaliuMkulu: ?????02:33
uMkului don't know, kayali02:34
trukuloInitMass, alsa02:34
franhi!02:34
queuetueWhere is the "system bell sound" defined?  I want to replace the drum hit every time I hit tab in bash with something more subtle, but can't find the right setting in sounds...02:34
InitMassqueuetue, desktop preferences and then sound02:34
kayalianyone knows if ubuntu features an Eclipse package?02:34
=== monoxide [~monoxide@dialup-69.78.221.203.acc15-dryb-mel.comindico.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
trukulokayali, i think not02:35
queuetueInitMass, Which sound is it?  I cna't find one that affects the "system bell"...02:35
InitMassqueuetue, system bell02:36
InitMassqueuetue, i'm guiding you in gnome right now02:36
=== Skid [~chris@82-32-195-206.cable.ubr05.newt.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu
=== `shane [~sbrennan@pool-141-152-177-237.norf.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu
Skidhi folks, how can I check to see if Xfree86's dev packages are installed?02:37
InitMasstrukulo, xmms complain and want me to check my configuration and that no other program is blocking the soundcard02:37
queuetueInitMass, I have a "system bell" tab, but nowhere to change the sound - no "system bell" sound is listed under the "sound events" tab.02:37
trukuloInitMass, use esd02:37
trukuloSkid, dpkg -l | grep xfree8602:38
=== myggen [~myggen@0x50c4970e.adsl-fixed.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu
monoxideSkid, apt-get install xserver-xfree86-dev?02:38
`shaneok, just re-installed ubuntu and when I add my windows partition to my fstab it mounts it...but Ubuntu doesn't know a file from a folder, etc. I remember having this problem last time but I forgot how to fix it02:38
trukuloshane: uid in fstab?02:38
InitMassqueuetue, then i don't know. i have the option "sound an audible bell"02:38
`shaneuid=XXX?02:38
=== martinald [~alderson@80.229.237.12] has joined #ubuntu
martinaldhi all02:38
monoxide`shane, you cant?02:38
martinaldi have a problem02:39
queuetueInitMass, Yes, I'm asking how you change the "audible bell" sound.02:39
`shanelet me post my entry:02:39
monoxidei dont think you can with an vfat drive...02:39
martinaldbasically, i'm using novell linux desktop 9 and i absolutely love it, but i'm getting a bit frustrated with the lack of new software on it (most packages are quite old... 1 year or so)02:39
monoxidemartinald, what would this problem be?02:39
`shane/dev/hdb1/mnt/windowsvfatumask=0000002:39
martinaldso how possible is it to move to ubuntu without stuff breaking? things like my panel setup, fonts, home dirs etc02:39
Skidmonoxide: er that package doesn't exist02:40
trukulomartinald, very difficult, if it uses diferent versions02:40
InitMassqueuetue, i don't know any other way even if i know there is but none i can help you with02:40
martinaldok02:40
martinaldwell nld uses gnome 2.6 and hoary uses 2.1002:40
=== BtoAWoI [~Ksrogpb@IGLD-84-228-70-128.inter.net.il] has joined #ubuntu
trukulomartinald, exactly02:40
`shanevfat is fine, ntfs needs support added I believe..or it did in Fedora02:40
martinaldthere is no migration tools?02:40
trukuloand diferent evolution02:40
trukulomartinald, no, no migration tool as i know02:40
InitMasstrukulo, where should i change to esd? when i type esd in the terminal i get /dev/dsp: No such file or directory02:41
shocku know something that needs fixing in ubuntu? the "open with" dialog!02:41
shockits a pain!02:41
martinaldhmm02:41
trukulobut you can keep home users, just copy them02:41
monoxideSkid, i was guessing02:41
InitMassqueuetue, one other way is to cut the cable to the bell02:41
trukuloInitMass, in xmms plugins output02:41
=== _4strO|b1 is now known as _4strO
martinaldyea i assume that, [most]  settings are stored in my home dir, how much of that would be transfered?02:41
trukulomartinald, you have to try02:42
monoxidetrukulo, what if he installed ubuntu at the versions that he has installed at the moment then updated?02:42
=== p-fox [~psh@ACD58B6E.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu
InitMasstrukulo, do you mean esd as audio device?02:42
trukulomonoxide,he uses novell desktop linux, not ubuntu02:42
trukuloInitMass, yes02:42
trukulomonoxide, he don't have gnome 2.602:42
martinaldi have gnome 2.602:42
InitMasstrukulo, now i've got esd there and ALSA as output02:42
trukulomartinald, in ubuntu i mean02:43
martinaldoh ok02:43
p-foxdoes anyone know why recent hoary runs so slow? (awful screen redraw, etc)02:43
trukulop-fox, perhaps, because is a development version not finished02:43
=== nerio [~nerio@c-8b18e055.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu
InitMasstrukulo, but with those ^^ settings xmms still complain02:43
trukuloInitMass, so just keep trying things02:44
trukuloor better, use rythmbox02:44
=== dw [~dw@pcp04652038pcs.grey01.tn.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== JEplSkaC [~Fmbfnhs@IGLD-84-228-70-128.inter.net.il] has joined #ubuntu
p-foxtrukulo, yes it's not finished. but i assume it's a bug. bugs need fixing. so it'd help if i could diagnose it, right?02:45
trukulop-fox, so look for the bug02:45
p-foxtrukulo, how do you find an unknown bug?02:45
trukulodid you read bugzilla ?02:46
InitMasstrukulo, /dev/dsp: No such file or directory is what i get when i type esd in the terminal and that's why it's no idea to put esd in xmms. what's your advice for the missing /dev/dsp?02:46
trukulohave you look for that problem there?02:46
trukuloyou don't have dsp?02:46
p-foxtrukulo, yes. hense asking here.02:46
trukulop-fox, i'm using hoary and X goes fast02:46
trukulofaster than warty, in fact02:46
=== underdog [~amedeiros@80.172.48.102] has joined #ubuntu
p-foxtrukulo, well not for me. which is why it's a bug.02:47
InitMasstrukulo, no i don't have that dsp02:47
trukulop-fox, can you give us more information? i can't help you with: it's slower02:47
Skidwhat package are the gtk - devel files?02:47
underdogi'm having trouble installing a font. i tried mkfontdir && xset fp rehash && /etc/init.d/xfs restart but with no luck. any ideas?02:47
Skidthere's a fair few :)02:47
p-foxtrukulo, since updating X redraws are slow, window switching and desktop switching too. but there's no errors to help diagnose it02:48
trukulowhat graphic card do you have?02:48
p-foxradeon x60002:48
p-foxi've reinstalled the drivers and killed X, but it didn't fix it02:48
Skidnm found em02:48
=== khooler73 [~okreisz@dsl-213-023-182-221.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== javiolo [~javiolo@84.18.10.226] has joined #ubuntu
=== abelli [~abelli@host-84-222-39-20.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #ubuntu
neriohow do I install the kernel source ? is it the kernel headers ?02:52
SiRrUsp-fox I am having the same problem02:52
_demian_ehm... how do attrib perms?02:52
=== m-foxela [~legolas@port-212-202-8-100.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #ubuntu
_demian_with what command?02:52
p-foxSiRrUs, what video card have you got?02:53
SiRrUsplain ol Sis02:53
SiRrUsbeen like this now for about 3 days02:53
p-foxright. i'm pretty sure it's an X problem, but i dont know what02:53
p-foxSiRrUs, same here.02:53
SiRrUsyeah started happening right after an upgrade, I am sure it will be sorted out very soon tho02:54
=== Kevin [xxc@81.213.70.20] has joined #ubuntu
Kevinhttp://www.tcpsecurity.com/02:55
=== Kevin [xxc@81.213.70.20] has left #ubuntu []
=== k40z [~k40zmotic@82.152.173.220] has joined #ubuntu
=== spiral [~spiral@lafilaire-4-82-224-249-43.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== monoxide_ [~monoxide@dialup-31.35.221.203.acc14-dryb-mel.comindico.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
spiralhi02:58
uMkuluhello, spiral02:58
monoxide_since updateing to hoary the network-admin app seems to have killed itself...02:58
=== kayali [kayali@ALamentin-101-1-10-73.w81-248.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
membreyahooray, I've gotten squid working :)02:59
=== v9_1 [~delta@host72-70.pool80182.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu
monoxide_congrats membreya. since  you seem to have no troubles, maybe you could help me out ;)03:00
membreyarofl monoxide im using webmin ..so it's cheating :)03:00
=== hoinar [~hoinar@pc08.bpe.iasi.rdsnet.ro] has joined #ubuntu
monoxide_lol03:01
monoxide_hey, if it works, it cant be all bad :)03:01
=== EVsGFrU [~PsUQ@dsl81-214-58319.adsl.ttnet.net.tr] has joined #ubuntu
hoinarhi all03:03
=== mg__ [~mg@cpc2-leed1-4-0-cust93.ldst.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu
membreyahrm lol, need to figure out how to set the ACL to allow me to USE webmin while the proxy is on :P03:04
monoxide_membreya, since updateing to hoary the network-admin app seems to have killed itself...03:04
monoxide_any ideas?03:04
=== lordc_ [~lordc@cpc4-mfld3-4-0-cust215.nott.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu
monoxide_lol03:04
membreyahow you mean killed itself?03:04
monoxide_maybe network-admin would help? ;)03:04
hoinari have a question: why don't I see my NTFS partitions under ubuntu live cd?03:04
monoxide_well its not there03:05
monoxide_bash cant find it at all03:05
mg__hi, I'm just installing ubuntu on a thinkpad t42 and I've heard that it has it's own bootloader for the ibm restore and recovery software. I would like some advice on whether that means it's a problem using grub instead of the windows bootloader?03:05
monoxide_hoinar, linux doesnt support NTFS03:05
membreyanetwork-admin works for me03:05
hoinarthat is something I know monoxide03:05
membreyamonoxide: so does :P03:05
mg__ie.. if I overwrite the mbr will it disable the r&r03:05
hoinar:) but under knoppix I can even wtite...not only read...03:06
hoinar*write03:06
hoinarbut i want to run ubuntu live :)03:06
monoxide_root@matthew-linux:/home/matthew # network-admin03:06
monoxide_bash: network-admin: command not found03:06
monoxide_root@matthew-linux:/home/matthew #03:06
monoxide_what package is it from?03:06
=== WindowsUninstall [~WindowsUn@host7-127.pool8250.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu
monoxide_hoinar, then the live cd doesnt have the packages on it for that. no idea what that package is tho.03:07
hoinar:(03:08
hoinarthanks03:08
=== lupusBE [~lupus@dD577EF30.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu
monoxide_i have ubuntu exclusively on this computer, but i want to run a dual boot, so if you find what is needed for NTFS then let me know03:09
=== gurran [~gurran@c-7bdbe055.544-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu
=== rapha [~rapha@p54A08DB3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu
=== NetwrkMonkey [~Monkey@netwrkmonkey.user] has joined #ubuntu
monoxide_membreya, do you know what package network-admin is from?03:10
johnnybe1akany of you guys use streamripper?03:10
=== monoxide_ is now known as monoxide
gurranHi PPL03:11
=== Burn` [~Burnout@21.66-136-217.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu
=== wurm [~gregor@c144251.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu
=== spiral [~spiral@lafilaire-4-82-224-249-43.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== joskulj [~jochen@p3EE3A64C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== Rocco [~lukas@dsl-81-237.utaonline.at] has joined #ubuntu
spiralhi again03:14
=== usual [~colin@cpe-24-194-193-234.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
Roccoanybody here with an centrino?03:15
=== monoxide thinks all the answers people are asleep....
=== SiRrUs [~SiRrUs@HSE-MTL-ppp77407.qc.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu
underdogi am03:17
=== hugaru [~matthieu@purpan-2-82-224-15-182.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== DXT^away [linux@CBL217-132-123-13.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ubuntu
=== DXT^away is now known as DXT
mg__anyone use an ibm t40?03:20
=== Xoqqvnl [Efvj@058.a.005.syd.iprimus.net.au] has joined #ubuntu
Rocco@underdog you use a centrino???03:21
=== SiliconViper [~siliconvi@d205-250-111-241.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== rik-scha [~rik-scha@p83.129.3.13.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #ubuntu
=== delltony [~delltony@c-24-99-11-118.atl.client2.attbi.com] has joined #ubuntu
lokdoes someone use ia32-libs on a amd64 here?03:24
underdogRocco: yeah03:26
=== Goshawk [~Goshawk@host86-171.pool8251.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu
Roccounderdog: what do you use to slow down the fequency?03:28
=== _Petteri [~petteri@a81-197-2-3.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu
=== t [~t@modemcable221.10-202-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu
tI'm on hoary and there's no "take a screenshot" icon...03:29
monoxidet, check under the System menu03:29
SiRrUssure there is03:29
virtualdhttp://lists.netsys.com/pipermail/full-disclosure/2005-March/032240.html03:29
underdogRocco: nothing as of yet03:29
=== kirbuntu [~kirbuntu@CPE-65-31-210-15.kc.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
kirbuntuhello ubuntu03:30
=== ygnome [~michael@219-90-234-23.ip.adam.com.au] has left #ubuntu ["cya,]
=== VANQUISH [~googlepop@84.241.11.240] has joined #ubuntu
=== psi [~psi@c-c37e71d5.028-127-6c756c1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu
VANQUISHhi03:30
uMkulubonjour, VANQUISH03:30
=== Montagh [~451@211.106.client.e-access.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
VANQUISHhi03:30
=== underdog [~amedeiros@80.172.48.102] has left #ubuntu []
kirbuntuhello from kansas, USA03:30
Montaghhi03:31
VANQUISHim arash03:31
RoccoDONT WANNA BE AN AMERICAN IDOIT *gg*03:31
SiRrUs:)03:31
VANQUISHin iran03:31
=== alfredo [~alfredo@host159.201-252-89.telecom.net.ar] has joined #ubuntu
=== Echylo [~Echylo@80.12-201-80.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu
SiRrUshmmmm time to settle down boys03:31
njs12345offtopic I guess, but I'm in he UK :P03:31
njs12345*the03:31
=== khooler73 [~okreisz@dsl-213-023-182-221.arcor-ip.net] has left #ubuntu []
=== andrewski [~andrewski@pool-151-197-228-57.phil.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu
membreyaok it was webmins problem ..wasn't allowing squid to connect to it :P03:33
SiRrUsgood morning membreya03:34
membreyaello SiRrUs :)03:34
=== monoxide yawns in membreya's direction
membreya:P03:35
monoxideabout time for bed for us ehh?03:35
monoxideits late...03:35
SiRrUsbed?? where you from03:35
membreyaits only 1.30 am monoxide :)03:35
monoxidei wanna see the last of the 1:30 of updates tho....03:36
monoxideaus03:36
monoxide1:40am here03:36
monoxidelol membreya03:36
=== Tycho_Atreides [{UMCP}Tych@tycho2.student.umd.edu] has joined #ubuntu
monoxidei need my beauty sleep ;)03:36
SiRrUs9:40am here03:36
monoxideyea, its sunday morning here ;)03:37
Tycho_Atreidessunday?!?03:37
SiRrUsSat am here03:37
VANQUISHhiiiiiiiiiii03:37
Roccounderdog: cpudyn is disabled; how can i enable03:37
=== LordC [~lordc@cpc4-mfld3-4-0-cust215.nott.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== monoxide sighs and explains that he is in AUS again
=== Creeper [~Creeper@myw-stp-66-18-86-159.sentechsa.net] has joined #ubuntu
Tycho_Atreidesdont tell me what happens saturday, i want it to be a surprise03:38
membreyawe're in the future :D03:38
=== Errejo [~errejo@v193b.studby.ntnu.no] has joined #ubuntu
Creeperok, so ho can help me with a probmlem with ubuntu?03:39
Creeper*who03:39
monoxidethere was an american comedian who once made the comment "never worry about tommorow. the aussies are already there and they are still alive"03:39
monoxidei forget who now tho...03:39
membreyalol!03:39
monoxidewhats wrong Creeper?03:39
Creeperwhen booting I get "Error 18"03:40
monoxidewhich is?03:40
Creeperbeats me03:40
monoxidei get many errors when booting, fairly sure none of them are #18 though03:40
Creeperwell booting seizes at Error 1803:40
=== monoxide still hasnt managed to fix his boot problems with his hdd...
=== beezly [~andy@monkey.beezly.org.uk] has joined #ubuntu
=== mlambie [~mlambie@dsl-202-72-151-181.wa.westnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
membreyaCreeper: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=11764&highlight=grub+error+1803:41
monoxidebefore or during the ubuntu bootup?03:42
=== membreya hugs google
Creeperbefore... i think... its just after DMI detection03:42
=== _adw_ [~|adw|@230.80-203-59.nextgentel.com] has joined #ubuntu
monoxideor, there you go03:43
=== umarmung [~Schreiber@pD95421A0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu
monoxidecan anyone give me any ideas why my computer would freeze before even getting to gnome?03:43
monoxideerrr... before getting to grub03:43
Creeperno, while starting grub03:44
Montaghi did that to mine by changing my grub splash to something in the wrong format03:44
=== sander__ [~sander@pool-68-161-10-78.ny325.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu
monoxidei dont have a grub splash03:45
=== _Petteri is now known as Petteri
mlambiewhen i use gnome-terminal to ssh to anoher machine running ubuntu it changes the tab name to reflect the new user@machine. when i ssh to a debian sarge server it doesn't. i'd like to configure the debian server to do the same. any clues?03:45
monoxideinfact i tried to minimise the impact that grub has.03:46
InitMassanyone who can give me a repository for mplayer? i'm using warty03:47
=== evarlast [~ejrw@pcp02588190pcs.shlb1201.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== Rocco [~lukas@dsl-81-237.utaonline.at] has left #ubuntu ["Kopete]
monoxideInitMass, there isnt one, you need to compile it from source03:47
monoxidesee http://mplayerhq.com/03:48
=== Quest-Master [~qmaster@c-24-99-26-36.atl.client2.attbi.com] has joined #ubuntu
monoxideor check out xine03:48
v9_1mmm03:48
=== v9_1 [~delta@host72-70.pool80182.interbusiness.it] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
shockreally? there is no mplayer repos for warty anymore?03:48
shockhm03:48
shockweirdness03:48
njs12345I think nerim has mplayer, doesn't it?03:49
=== UWQOVQ [~Rboth@dsl81-215-61024.adsl.ttnet.net.tr] has joined #ubuntu
_adw_hi, anyone have any tips on wlan setups on for ubuntu, or linux in general, like real novice stuff?03:49
shockthought so03:49
shockim on my ppc computer here so cant check03:49
=== membreya_ [~membreya@c211-28-78-53.sunsh3.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
njs12345_adw_: `iwconfig` shows wireless interfaces03:49
psii made an mplayer .deb yesterday, if you want to try it03:50
monoxidewell i compiled it, i dont think there is an ubuntu repo for mplayer03:50
njs12345_adw_: `iwconfig <interface> essid <essid>` sets SSID03:50
monoxidei could be wrong tho....03:50
=== Goshawk [~Goshawk@host36-108.pool8251.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu
shockdeb http://honk.physik.uni-konstanz.de/~agx/linux-ppc/debian/ mplayer/ <-- this one worked for ppc03:50
_adw_thanks, but, if theres any networks available, they should show here trhrough iwlist?03:50
=== parazoid [~parazoid@port915.ds1-he.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu
membreya_what was that command to remove the root access again ?03:51
=== matthias [~matthias@dD5E06EA0.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu
njs12345membraya_: what, like, after you've done sudo -s?03:52
matthiashi all. How can I play mp3 files in Ubuntu?03:52
usualmembreya, ctrl+c03:53
njs12345sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad03:53
njs12345or `exit`03:53
njs12345`exit` is for membraya_ ;)03:53
usualor press ctrl+d03:53
matthiasok, i'll give it a try. Thanks03:53
monoxideuMkulu, restricted03:53
uMkulurumour has it restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats , for help with setting up java, flash, mp3 and video03:53
=== MindZEye [~MindZEye@seanparsons.plus.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== daniels [~daniels@amnesiac.heapspace.net] has left #ubuntu []
=== daniels [~daniels@amnesiac.heapspace.net] has joined #ubuntu
njs12345is uMkulu a bot?03:54
membreya_no03:54
membreya_after you've enabled root03:54
matthiasCOuld not find packet gstreamer0.8-mad ? :-s03:54
monoxidematthias, check that03:54
danielsuMkulu: restricted03:54
uMkuluit has been said that restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats , for help with setting up java, flash, mp3 and video03:54
psimatthias: you need to enable universe03:54
monoxidenjs12345, yes03:54
Montaghinstall beep media player, it worked out of the box for me03:54
danielsbut he also seems to be a human03:54
njs12345ah03:54
njs12345I see03:55
njs12345a cyborg? :D03:55
matthiaschechk what monoxide ? :)03:55
psimembreya: remove the password, i guess03:55
membreya_nevermind, its sudo passwd -l root03:55
monoxidedaniels, bs he does :P03:55
matthiasand psi > enable universe? How, where, ... ?03:55
njs12345matthias: edit /etc/apt/sources.list03:55
=== mattias [~mattias@c24004a.g-va.bostream.se] has joined #ubuntu
njs12345and remove the # before the line with 'universe' in03:55
njs12345you need to be root03:55
monoxideseems like a damn bot to me03:55
monoxidematthias, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats03:55
=== MrKeuner [~kudo@195.174.226.7] has joined #ubuntu
matthiasok03:55
njs12345ok, well, time for some CS:S for me03:56
=== jjx [~J@addr-82-128-206-6.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu
danielsmonoxide: i checked my lastlog, he was exhibiting distinctly human behaviour03:56
danielsmonoxide: so either he's a human or a human controls him at regular intervals (by human, i mean human with incredibly annoying scripts)03:56
monoxidedaniels, like saying hello back?03:56
monoxideand its easy to make a bot that can be controled :)03:57
danielsmmm, some of it's borderline ... but looking in context, probably not03:57
=== monoxide made one not so long ago in perl....
=== mode/#ubuntu [+o daniels] by ChanServ
=== mode/#ubuntu [+q umkulu!*@*] by daniels
=== mode/#ubuntu [-o daniels] by daniels
=== aikuson [~aikuson@80-235-58-153-dsl.trt.estpak.ee] has joined #ubuntu
usualdaniels, this lag wouldn't be a kernel issue would it? maybe xorg?03:58
=== IvyCQHome [~Sir@c906a0a6.virtua.com.br] has joined #ubuntu
=== aikuson [~aikuson@80-235-58-153-dsl.trt.estpak.ee] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
MrKeunerhi, installing nvidia drivers xorg started booting on the left of my widescreen. Is there a special thing to avoid this problem?03:59
MrKeunerright side of the screen has a blank area of 4-5 centimeters03:59
monoxideMrKeuner, try changing your resolution?04:00
MrKeuneroh yeah04:00
MrKeunerbut04:00
MrKeuner1280*800 has disappeared from that list somehow04:01
monoxidedpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:01
MrKeunerok great. thanks04:01
shocku might need to adjust the settings in your xorg.conf04:02
monoxidewith sudo04:02
=== doyoun_ [~zdnj@81.213.146.56] has joined #ubuntu
danielsusual: i don't know what it is, sorry ...04:02
danielsin any case, I need to sleep now, because it's late04:02
=== aizatto [~chatzilla@219.94.119.107] has joined #ubuntu
shockit 1600 here04:02
monoxideits 2am here....04:03
monoxidei need sleep soon...04:03
=== doyoun_ [~zdnj@81.213.146.56] has left #ubuntu []
=== lupusBE [~lupus@dD577EF30.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu
monoxidemust... finish... updates...04:03
monoxidedoes anyone know what package network-admin is from?04:03
usualdaniels, np, just curious. Thought you might have some insight04:04
=== robodex [~aaron@HSE-London-ppp197084.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu
=== Flmz [~Fnzke@dsl81-215-61024.adsl.ttnet.net.tr] has joined #ubuntu
=== EGTiqfn [~Yrkrxwp@dsl81-215-30468.adsl.ttnet.net.tr] has joined #ubuntu
=== membreya_ is now known as membreya
spiralhmmm... Any news about the new packages of ooo2 testing & localisations ?04:08
=== mameluke [~bo@84-72-12-249.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #ubuntu
=== Demian [~Demian@ip545100ac.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #ubuntu
=== praveen [~praveen@59.92.0.16] has joined #ubuntu
praveenhiya all..04:10
=== parazoid [~parazoid@port915.ds1-he.adsl.cybercity.dk] has left #ubuntu ["O_o"]
praveenhiya all..04:10
Myrtti*burp*04:10
Myrttitoo much soda04:10
praveenhehe..04:11
praveenthis is first time im on IRC..04:11
praveenwowwie...04:11
=== DXT is now known as DXT^away
=== ealden [~ealden@219.90.92.128] has joined #ubuntu
praveenhiya ealden04:12
praveenquit04:12
=== praveen [~praveen@59.92.0.16] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
=== ealden [~ealden@219.90.92.128] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
=== jooony [jony@1-1-3-33a.has.sth.bostream.se] has joined #ubuntu
=== aizatto [~chatzilla@219.94.119.107] has left #ubuntu []
=== schasi [~schasi@p54A23FE5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== leonel [~leonel@201.137.160.185] has joined #ubuntu
=== Owwzp [~Fyapc@81.213.239.180] has joined #ubuntu
=== cyberix [~cyberix@hki2-6-3-fb.hoasnet.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu
=== BiteMeBill [~antiM$@oh-67-77-123-4.dyn.sprint-hsd.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== ben [~ben@44.115.79.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #ubuntu
=== jfil [~jfil@56.Red-81-36-121.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== Skvecg [~Ztz@dsl81-215-61024.adsl.ttnet.net.tr] has joined #ubuntu
=== mikep [~mikep@c-24-0-3-105.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== DEAQqXc [~XSEUNlfa@82.114.65.243] has joined #ubuntu
=== mseney [~mseney@70-97-140-21.dsl1.glv.ny.frontiernet.net] has left #ubuntu ["Try]
=== ulx [~ulx@54.Red-213-98-190.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu
mg__anybody use an ibm t4x?04:28
=== MrKeuner [~kudo@195.174.226.7] has joined #ubuntu
=== maximaus [~max@user-37kaccp.dialup.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== linuxboy [~anon@yoda.frogfoot.net] has joined #ubuntu
MrKeunerhi again, changing resolution did not work. I remember about some parameters when modprobing nvidia kernel module to avoid the problem of having space on the right of the screen. Can somebody lead me to a related information?04:31
MrKeunerwidescreen is the problem04:31
=== fluxy [~chatzilla@196.192.7.145] has joined #ubuntu
fluxyHello. I got a question about the Ubuntu Live Cd. Is it modular? If yes, how can modules be created and added to the cd? Thx04:35
=== vince [~vince@80-219-106-51.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #ubuntu
=== membreya_ [~membreya@c211-28-78-53.sunsh3.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
=== umarmung [~Schreiber@pD95421A0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== neofeed [~moritz@pD9575F11.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== bentele [~bentele@p5488D64B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu
=== braz2kuk12 [~pete@cpc2-warr1-4-0-cust8.bagu.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== Dr_Acemaster [~Dr_Acemas@c-24-11-89-119.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
fluxyHello. I got a question about the Ubuntu Live Cd. Is it modular? If yes, how can modules be created and added to the cd? Thx04:43
=== hexbin [~nd@198-MADR-X13.libre.retevision.es] has joined #ubuntu
braz2kuk12hi can anyone help want to compile ndiswrapper for my wi-fi card from source however when i do make i get this error: pete@Utopia:~/wi-fi/ndiswrapper-1.1 $ make04:44
braz2kuk12make -C driver04:44
braz2kuk12make[1] : Entering directory `/home/pete/wi-fi/ndiswrapper-1.1/driver'04:44
braz2kuk12Can't find kernel sources in /lib/modules/2.6.8.1-3-386/build;04:44
braz2kuk12  give the path to kernel sources with KSRC=<path> argument to make04:44
braz2kuk12make[1] : *** [prereq_check]  Error 104:45
braz2kuk12make[1] : Leaving directory `/home/pete/wi-fi/ndiswrapper-1.1/driver'04:45
braz2kuk12make: *** [all]  Error 204:45
njs12345braz2kuk12: I might be wrong here, but I think ubuntu only installs the kernel source with hoary kernels04:46
=== highvolt [highvolt@AC9ECBEB.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu
braz2kuk12i know however i downloaded the kernel source for my kernel and extracted it to /usr/src04:46
=== `shane [~sbrennan@pool-141-152-177-237.norf.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== highvolt is now known as `s
=== `s is now known as `s-
=== `s- is now known as x-_-x
braz2kuk12so really it should compile? if not do i need to create a symlink to my kernel source?04:49
=== aroman [~aroman@Toronto-HSE-ppp3708902.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu
aromanhello04:50
knucksHi gues04:51
knucksguys*04:51
knucksI have 4 speakers..only 2 of them work right now04:51
StoffBox-Stevehi knucks :D04:51
knuckshow can i get all of them working04:51
knucksHeya Steve04:51
=== djp [~david@dynamic-62-56-49-189.park-s46b.dslaccess.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu
knucksthink you can help me out Steve?04:52
=== helio7 [~michael@wbar21.lax1-4.26.216.34.lax1.dsl-verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu
StoffBox-Stevehmm, give me a bit04:52
=== tasuki [~tasuki@r2ai7.chello.upc.cz] has joined #ubuntu
=== tasuki [~tasuki@r2ai7.chello.upc.cz] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
=== _iKe__ [~applet@eu64-237.clientes.euskaltel.es] has joined #ubuntu
djpcan anybody give me some advice regards spamassassin and evolution? by default spamd is disabled. do i need to edit /etc/default/spamassassin to enable it?04:53
=== x4m [~max@138-238.240.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu
=== StoffBox-Steve chat with Ex-GF
Myrttioh, wow. Say her hello from me04:54
=== Jet2k5 [~zero@fl-69-34-239-181.dyn.sprint-hsd.net] has joined #ubuntu
Jet2k5hello anyone here using a laptop with cpu throttling?04:54
StoffBox-Steve*GG* Myrtti04:54
helio7 Does anyone know what the language-switching daemon is called so I can set it to run under a different WM (fluxbox)?  I got it working in Gnome, but it's not accessible in the other WM04:55
Myrttisay that a hot sexy nerdette is drooling over you04:55
=== VANQUISH [~googlepop@84.241.11.240] has left #ubuntu []
membreya_stupid question but in access.log for squid does TCP_MISS/200 mean the file isn't being cached?04:56
StoffBox-Stevebut to see her, its a long long ways for you Myrtti :) shes in Leizig / Germany ) :P04:56
Jet2k5anyone?04:57
=== sebanum76 [sebanum76@194.106.204.157] has joined #ubuntu
MyrttiStoffBox-Steve: Leipzig? that's not so far away04:57
Myrttionly the Baltic Sea and few funny kilometers04:57
StoffBox-Steve*GG* Myrtti04:57
djpJet2k5: sorry04:58
Getanyone here that has got gmailfs working in ubuntu hoary?04:58
=== fluxy [~chatzilla@196.192.7.145] has left #ubuntu []
knucksArgh. My printer is acting weird!04:58
knucksWhat should i do04:58
=== njan [~james@james.user] has joined #ubuntu
djpspamd advice needed if anybody here is able...04:59
=== maximaus [~max@user-37kaccp.dialup.mindspring.com] has left #ubuntu ["Kopete]
StoffBox-Stevei look around a bit, but didnt find somethink ... have you googelt knucks ?05:00
=== Panzerboy [~NoName@195.149.67.34] has joined #ubuntu
=== Jet2k5 [~zero@fl-69-34-239-181.dyn.sprint-hsd.net] has left #ubuntu []
=== androxxl [~androxxl@BSN-210-225-241.dsl.siol.net] has joined #ubuntu
knucksim going to epson's site right now05:02
knucksheres the problem im having:05:02
=== fsc [~lilbuntu@24.107.196.152.charter-stl.com] has joined #ubuntu
knucksit detects the printer as the Epson C64 (which it is)05:02
knucksbut when i try to print it just feeds papers through05:02
knucksover and over and over05:02
knucksand doesnt print anything on them05:02
=== aeolist [~aeolist@ppp215.dialup.ntua.gr] has joined #ubuntu
stuNNed /win 505:03
stuNNedoops sorry05:03
=== hoinar [~hoinar@pc08.bpe.iasi.rdsnet.ro] has left #ubuntu []
knucksYeah there is no linux driver on epson's site05:04
knucksOk I'm getting the sudo apt-get install cupsys-driver-gimpprint package05:04
MyrttistuNNed: irssi?05:05
wezzer-I think so... :)05:05
matthiasI've added the sources in Synaptic to download gstreamer-mad (for mp3) but when I try to install that I get the following05:06
matthiaslibid3tag0 but it is not installable05:06
matthiaslibid3tag0 is required .. but couldn't install or something. Anyone got an idea?05:07
knucksok who can help me?05:08
knucksits like my printer is going crazy05:08
=== andrewski [~andrewski@pool-151-197-228-57.phil.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== _iKe__ [~applet@eu64-237.clientes.euskaltel.es] has left #ubuntu ["Abandonando"]
andrewskiwhich gstreamer plugin do i need to play avi's?05:09
=== scorpix [~scorpix@as17-40.qualitynet.net] has joined #ubuntu
MyrttistuNNed: try alt+505:09
matthiasI've added all possible sources and seems like it's working now :)05:11
=== aie_aie [~run@l01v-18-127.d4.club-internet.fr] has joined #ubuntu
aeolisthow does this sound for an fstab line?05:11
aeolist/mnt/usb/ubuntu_dvd/hoary-install-i386.iso /media/iso iso9660 loop 0 005:12
aie_aiehi05:12
njs12345andrewski: well, that's kind of impossible to say05:12
njs12345avi is a container format, not a codec05:12
njs12345so potentially any gstreamer plugin05:12
=== jkermabon [~chatzilla@mutualite-6-82-228-182-37.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== eruin [~eruin@eruin.user] has joined #ubuntu
matthiasok, it's working. Can finally play mp3's :) Thanks.05:14
aie_aieI am looking for ubuntu amd64 packages guide05:14
stuNNedMyrtti: yes thanks05:15
aie_aieanyone can tell me where are them ?05:15
=== _adw_ [~adw@230.80-203-59.nextgentel.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== _case [~case@h5n2fls35o1103.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu
_caseCraHan, hehehehehe05:15
_caseCraHan, methinks someone went cranky05:16
lokaie_aie, there's on the primary mirror archive.ubuntu.com05:16
MyrttistuNNed: that same thing works for windows up to 19, I think05:16
CraHanwhat the fuck happened?05:16
CraHanI thought it was the daily reconnect05:16
MyrttistuNNed: when numbers run out, use letters beneath them05:16
CraHanfrom my ISP05:16
=== Panzerboy_ [~NoName@195.149.67.34] has joined #ubuntu
=== CodeImp [~codeimp@ddt-ddb-223fd.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu
_caseCraHan, kuhndog dared him05:16
CraHanhaha05:17
CraHannow that's funny05:17
_case<[steev] > way to go _case05:17
=== dokus [~chatzilla@dD57604A8.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu
Mantleis there a gui mount utility included in the ubuntu livecd?05:17
=== Panzerboy_ is now known as Panzerboy
=== matthias is now known as Matthi
=== Montagh [~451@211.106.client.e-access.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
=== johaBBa [~johaBBa@johabba.user] has joined #ubuntu
dazedgood morning all05:21
Matthimornin' ^^ It's late afternoon here05:22
=== bam [brad@bam.n8qq.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== neighborlee [~neighborl@d2-251.rb2.gh.centurytel.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== sigglet [~sigglet@208.187.169.233] has joined #ubuntu
=== billytwowilly [~chris@S01060040f4acc23c.ed.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu
dazedwell i just woke up...splittin head05:24
dazedhahah05:24
=== mindphasr [~mind@68.31.165.75] has joined #ubuntu
plex0rpiss off05:26
=== knoppix [~knoppix@c83-248-162-140.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu
dazedfaggot05:26
=== CodeImp [~codeimp@ddt-ddb-223fd.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has left #ubuntu []
neighborleedazed, hey we dont use words like that around here05:26
=== LordC [~lordc@cpc4-mfld3-4-0-cust215.nott.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu
siggletLOL05:27
dazedlol hes sittin right next to me but sorry for offending others05:27
neighborleeok np..05:28
MyrttiI need to put some new nail polish on05:29
=== larsson_ [~larsson@h164n3c1o285.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu
neighborleeMyrtti, lol05:29
stuNNedMyrtti: i'll try it thanks!05:29
MyrttistuNNed: try #irssi on IRCnet, if you need more help05:29
larsson_Hi, i am installing Ubuntu on my computer. When i am partitioning, i need some help. What does a a lightning symbol mean? My NTFS partition is marked with a lightning.05:30
neighborleelarsson_, that you can't use it to install ubuntu on05:30
neighborleelarsson_, although you can format over it if you no longer need windows <G>05:30
larsson_I need Windows.05:31
neighborleeI know how it goes yes...05:31
neighborleeI still need mine for a 'few' games but mainly msaccess ..till I figure out how to convert the dain thing over into some linux app anyway..REALLY bites..worse decision I ever made was to use msaccess ;((05:31
larsson_Ok, so it wont be formatted? Its marked as "Dont use" , will it be mounted ?05:31
dazedyeah larson thought i needed windows...but i just ballzed up and installed ubuntu and erased windows...best decision of my life05:32
=== FX|Laptop [~FX@c68.113.225.199.stp.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu
FX|LaptopHello05:32
larsson_Yep, but still need it for games.05:32
neighborleelarsson_, wont be mounted except to log into windows from boot ( long as you didn't touch that partition during install )05:32
FX|LaptopHey I have a question05:32
neighborleeFX|Laptop, you have the floor ;-)05:32
dazedLarson_ theres a linux app for runnin windows games05:33
FX|LaptopIs there away to setup the remote desktop thingy in Ubuntu through ssh?05:33
larsson_I know.05:33
dazedoh05:33
dazedok05:33
neighborleelarsson_, but we recommend native linux games05:33
neighborleelarsson_, heh well..or at least 'I' do ;-))05:33
dazedlol05:33
dazedbut they suck05:33
neighborleenot05:33
FX|LaptopI'm trying to get vnc to work, but all I get is a white screen with just a dot for the cursor05:33
dazedwell...some05:33
neighborleethere are many wonderful commercial linux games out there now05:33
dazedreally!?05:34
dazeddidnt know05:34
neighborleesome..I;ll give you that05:34
neighborleedazed, yes..definitey05:34
dazedlike in stores?05:34
larsson_Its installing now. Man, i get so nervous when installing a new dist.05:34
neighborleedazed, yes some05:34
dazedthats cool05:34
neighborleedazed, if you can still find them....05:34
dazedi didnt know05:34
neighborleedazed, neverwinter nights is one of the best for linux05:34
neighborleedazed, ut2004 prob. is the best/easiest to install though05:34
dazedreally thats cool ill have to look into that05:34
neighborleedazed, uplink is VERy kewl ..darwinia should come out soon'ish for linux/mac05:35
dazedut2004 is available for linux?05:35
FX|LaptopAmerica's Army is also a free game and easy to install05:35
dazedi have it for windows05:35
dazedlove it05:35
neighborleedazed, IF you are into it..there is 'postal2' for linux now05:35
neighborleedazed, yup it SURE is05:35
neighborleedazed, it even has a native linux installer for you on CD05:35
dazednever heard of it neighborlee...could i run my windows ut2004 or do i have to buy new one05:35
dazedno way05:35
dazedu just made my day05:35
neighborlee;-))05:35
dazedlol05:35
Myrtti*grouphug*05:35
neighborleeand also ...05:36
Myrttinevermind me, I'm the token nerdette of the group05:36
neighborleedazed, IF you can stil find them..there are some VERY kewl LOKI games floating around ....05:36
=== aie_aie [~run@l01v-18-127.d4.club-internet.fr] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
dazedthats cool ill start looking05:36
neighborleeFX|Laptop, hmmm05:36
Myrtti<3 Tuxracer05:36
neighborleeFX|Laptop, I wonder if you have all needed components OR maybe its not configured right05:36
neighborleeMyrtti, nerdette ? ( ah as in female as in the nails bit <G>)05:37
FX|Laptopneighborlee, I'm not sure. I had it working good at one time. Not sure whats going on now. :(  lol05:37
=== knucks [~chatzilla@pcp01189996pcs.waldlk01.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
knucksis there a way to get all windows to open in one?05:37
neighborleeMyrtti,thats kewl...we need a 'even' mix around here anyway <G>05:37
knuckslike when i click on a folder it opens in that same window?05:37
neighborleeFX|Laptop, well I h ave idea for you..IF no one here knows you can goto: ( same server) #lemmings and tell them I sent you and they will help....05:38
neighborleeknucks, ohhh you mean nautilus ?05:38
FX|LaptopOk thands neighborlee05:38
FX|LaptopI have to get going right now, but I'll work on it later.05:39
knucksif thats the system for windows in ubuntu, then yes05:39
neighborleeknucks, thats called spatial mode and few like it except total newbies tolinux maybe...( which is supposedly why they designed it)05:39
neighborleeknucks, Yyeah you can disable that easily in 'prefs' in nautilus05:39
knuckso ok05:39
knuckswell ill try that in a bit05:39
knucksmy next order of business...05:39
knuckshow do i access my ntfs partition?05:39
knucksits got all my docs and mp3s and videos05:39
neighborleeknucks, nautilus > edit : prefs : behavior : open in browser windows05:40
neighborleeknucks, well you set it up (if it isn't already) in /etc/fstab05:40
knuckseh?05:40
=== StoffBox-Steve [~steve@pD95F350D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== ironwolf [~ironwolf@c-24-6-169-124.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
neighborleeknucks, I dont do it usually but there must be a simple way to do it ( GUI)...mabye someone that does this more will chime in05:40
neighborleeknucks, if not you can manually mount it from gnome-terminal05:41
knuckshow would i go about doing thaT?05:41
neighborleeknucks, : mount /media/windows ( after adding it to /etc/fstab)05:41
Myrttineighborlee: /whois has been a good tool in the past05:41
neighborleeMyrtti, lol05:41
=== stackpopper [~edward@dial81-131-155-70.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has joined #ubuntu
Myrttithen google :->05:41
neighborleeMyrtti, hi miia05:41
knuckscan you take me step by step?05:41
Myrttione might even try http://irc.fi/myrtti05:41
stackpopperI was wondering are there any successful boots with array6 on imac g5's?05:41
neighborleeMyrtti, checking05:41
=== BiteMeBill wonders why they created http://ubuntuguide.org
neighborleeknucks, well05:42
=== topyli [~juha@dsl-hkigw3pa5.dial.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu
neighborleeknucks, there must be a easy GUI for this..I'm almost sure there is.lemme think05:42
knucksi can go through the comman line if u can tell me how-to05:42
MyrttiBiteMeBill: because you thought people knew how to use Google?05:42
BiteMeBillMyrtti: LOL05:42
Myrttiit's a common mistake people make05:43
BiteMeBillknucks: for step by step instructions look here.  http://ubuntuguide.org/#windows05:43
Myrttithey presume others can use google05:43
knucksBiteMeBill: looking05:43
knucksok let me try that05:43
=== Crane [~Crane@cable-71-8-46-55.grd.al.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu
stuNNed /win 1105:44
stuNNeddamnit lol05:44
MyrttistuNNed: try alt+q05:44
Myrtti:->05:45
plex0ri think im smart but dazed owns me05:45
plex0rlol05:45
plex0rhes so l33t05:45
jesuelooh, so thats where this terminal went.05:45
plex0rjk05:45
jesuel*I KNEW* i was still connected to irc05:45
BiteMeBillplex0r: Well tell dazed to get his hand off your lap05:45
knucksyay05:45
knucks:D05:45
neighborleeMyrtti, nice site miia..added to friends list05:45
dazedmy hands are no where near his lap05:45
plex0rthere on his05:45
plex0rlol05:45
plex0rwell05:45
neighborleeBiteMeBill, thx for helping him..I got distracted for a sec05:46
plex0ron both keyboards05:46
dazedat the same time05:46
=== helio7 [~michael@wbar21.lax1-4.26.216.34.lax1.dsl-verizon.net] has left #ubuntu []
dazedwierd05:46
plex0rhuh05:46
=== Slaggy [~Slaggy@ip68-110-22-134.om.om.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu
knucksis there a guide to get DivX and other video codecs working?05:46
BiteMeBillneighborlee: No problem..  I just get frustrated when people don't use the tools that Ubuntu has given.05:46
=== mmoyer [gdgzfmd@jaim.at] has joined #ubuntu
dazedknucks05:46
dazedhave u cehcekd the starter guide05:46
knucksdazed: nope05:46
dazedgo05:46
dazedlol05:46
knucksis it the one Bill sent me to?05:47
neighborleeBiteMeBill, well newbies are usually of the windows mentality where things usually are pretty easy...just how it is05:47
BiteMeBillknucks: book mark this site and I will send you one more site too.  http://ubuntuguide.org05:47
knucksthanks05:47
neighborleeBiteMeBill, which isn't bad perse at all...linux ( some distros ) take a slightly different approach with some things ;-))05:47
BiteMeBilland http://www.ubuntuforums.org/05:47
neighborleeBiteMeBill, thankfully ubuntu is going for easy of use05:48
=== |rufius| [~suifur@suifur.linuxfordummies] has joined #ubuntu
knucksok thanks05:48
neighborleeease05:48
knuckslet me see if i can get mm codecs working05:48
=== blizah [~stephen@12-215-221-178.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu
BiteMeBillneighborlee: those two areas makes it easier and at the same time one learns instead of just doing.05:48
=== regeya [~shane@sdn-ap-017ilchicP0501.dialsprint.net] has joined #ubuntu
neighborleeBiteMeBill, yup tis true indeed05:49
=== fgx [~fgx@host244-175.pool8256.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu
knucksit tells me to get sudo apt-get install w32codecs05:49
knucksbut then i get an error: COuldn't find package w32codecs05:49
fgxknucks, it is in marillat repos05:49
knucksfgx: where at?05:50
=== Goshawk [~Goshawk@host36-108.pool8251.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu
neighborleeknucks, sounds like you haven't enabled your universe or mabye marilat repositories05:50
fgxknucks, wait a mom05:50
neighborleefgx, oops ;-)05:50
BiteMeBillknucks: I don't mean to sound like a prick but read this and then through the ubuntuguide  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=371305:50
neighborleeMyrtti, how did you get intertered in linux/ubuntu if I may ask05:51
stuNNedMyrtti: i like  the alt+number then letters underneath!05:51
knucksBiteMeBill: naw its cool.05:51
knucksi did most of those things already05:51
BiteMeBillAlot of your answers are in there and will walk you through everything.  And you will have a better understanding of how things are working on your system.05:51
knucksi didnt do #305:51
BiteMeBill#3 is in both pages.05:51
fgxknucks, ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main  i think you can find it here05:52
knucksactually I did do #305:52
knucksfgx: what am i looking for in there?05:52
BiteMeBillknucks: http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories05:53
neighborleeknucks, while working at the commmand line is kewl synaptic is your friend too ( and you can browse for some really kewl games/apps that way too)05:53
fgxknucks, add that line to /etc/apt/sources05:53
knucksahh ok05:53
neighborleeknucks, for future reference..you can also add them via synatic's interface05:54
Slaggy.list05:54
=== Slaggy [~Slaggy@ip68-110-22-134.om.om.cox.net] has left #ubuntu []
=== Slaggy [~Slaggy@ip68-110-22-134.om.om.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu
Myrttineighborlee: quirk. we had to learn how to install linux to a computer in my previous school, I had dual boot for a while with Win98 / Red Hat 8, then switched to vanilla W9805:54
=== BiteMeBill PlexOr and Dazed sure did get quiet over there.
Myrttimy at-that-time-SO wasn't into Linux that much, so...05:55
=== mmoyer [gdgzfmd@jaim.at] has left #ubuntu []
neighborleeMyrtti, ahhh very kewl indeed05:56
Myrttiwell, my current is more so, and things led to another. Besides, I need some "heavy duty" software, and because my computer is a bit old, I used Win2K and Sodipodi, Gimp, etc, but I didn't quite get the best out of them05:56
knuckshttp://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories05:56
knucksBiteMeBill: So i should do that?05:56
MyrttiI had the mentality of "why pay when you can have stuff free"05:56
Myrttithat's why sodipodi etc open source stuff05:57
neighborleeMyrtti, I skipped around from one distro to another till settling in with ubuntu.my main focus was gnome .and well automounting helps and security and stability..so it was a perrrfect fit ;-))05:57
Myrttibut then when I needed to do some flyers for a website me and a fellow nerdette are maintaining...05:57
neighborleeMyrtti, yup many of us do..as you settle in you realize that 'free/open source' is KEWL anyway ;-0005:57
BiteMeBillknucks: yes if you want to add the repositories05:57
knucksok thanks05:57
Myrttithat was so painful experience, I decided to switch to pure Linux05:57
=== arbeck [~arbeck@c-24-19-255-77.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
BiteMeBillknucks: your welcome.05:58
neighborleeMyrtti, ah..yeah sodipod is nice...I use it for fold out flyers05:58
=== sander__ [~sander@pool-68-161-10-78.ny325.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu
Myrttiand now I've got Scribus and lot's of other good stuff, and I don't need to pull my hair05:58
neighborleeI mean s cribus05:58
=== yatana [~rox_rf@201.133.154.88] has joined #ubuntu
arbeckDoes anyone want to help me with a couple of problems?05:58
MyrttiI used Debian last year about this time of the year05:58
=== Ivy6Quaff [~Sir@c906a0a6.virtua.com.br] has joined #ubuntu
yatanagrefxd05:59
Myrttibut it was a pain in the ass with my that time hardware05:59
JDahlarbeck, just ask your question05:59
BiteMeBillarbeck: shout it out maybe someone has an answer for you.05:59
Myrttiand I tried Mandrake, and Fedora05:59
yatanaalguien habla espaol05:59
arbeckfirst problem:  nautilus keeps asking for a blank cd whenever i try to burn one.  Event though there is a blank cd in the drive05:59
=== rubixXx [~rubix@ip68-103-55-163.ks.ok.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu
MyrttiFedora was nice, until my power supply exploded05:59
knucksI ran the sudo apt-get update05:59
neighborleeMyrtti, yeah mdk and f eodra have their pluses05:59
knucksand i get this:05:59
Myrttiand besides I liked Debian more05:59
knucksW: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.ubuntu.com warty/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_warty_main_binary-i386_Packages)06:00
knucksW: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.ubuntu.com warty/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_warty_restricted_binary-i386_Packages)06:00
BiteMeBillarbeck: have you tried putting a different one in just to make sure ot06:00
neighborleeMyrtti, fedora is too bleeding edge for me trust but its nice in alot of other ways..mdk is too commecialized06:00
BiteMeBillit's not a bad CD?06:00
MyrttiI heard a lot of good stuff about ubuntu, so I decided to give it a try06:00
neighborleeMyrtti, although they are doing something right by being #1 and 2 at distrowatch <G>06:00
=== yatana [~rox_rf@201.133.154.88] has left #ubuntu []
neighborleeMyrtti, ditto06:00
=== rcliii [~rcliii@24.10.179.112] has joined #ubuntu
rubixXxdoesn't linux have a local mail box...for some reason i have 14 emails locally and i don't know where the local mailbox is06:00
aeolistmd5sum is your friend06:00
MyrttiI was stunned when X worked out perfectly without hassle06:00
BiteMeBillknucks: check it over and see why there are two of the same in there.06:00
Myrttinot to mention Samba06:00
njs12345rubixXx: which client?06:00
neighborleeMyrtti, that and having sound 'out of the box' isn't too bad either ;-))06:00
neighborleeMyrtti, hmmm really?06:01
Myrttican't deny that06:01
rubixXxnjs12345): there is a local email box on most linux machines...i need to find where its at, no client is necessary06:01
neighborleeMyrtti, friend of mine had  trouble connecting her windows partitins I think with samba..06:01
Myrttiyeah, I had Samba working perfectly06:01
tizenrubixXx: /var/spool/mail/<user name>06:01
arbeckBiteMeBill: yep, tried that... gnomebaker, cdrecord, and cdrdao all work fine... it's only nautilus that won't work06:01
rubixXxtizen): ty06:01
BiteMeBillrubixXx: /var/mail/ <username>06:01
Myrttinow I don't, but that's not my bad but my SO's06:01
neighborleeMyrtti, odd maybe she had some weird settings then...shrug06:01
Myrttieven our Xbox can't see his shares06:01
neighborleelol06:01
neighborleexbox huh06:02
neighborleeMyrtti, tinkering with the ole xbox huh <G>06:02
=== LordC_ [~LordC@cpc4-mfld3-4-0-cust215.nott.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu
Myrttimodded xbox, of course06:02
=== yatana [~rox_rf@201.133.154.88] has joined #ubuntu
BiteMeBillarbeck: I'm not sure then. Is it saving information from a previous burn?06:02
rubixXxty06:02
=== yatana [~rox_rf@201.133.154.88] has left #ubuntu []
mz2is there a NetworkManager binary somewhere for warty?06:03
=== yatana [~rox_rf@201.133.154.88] has joined #ubuntu
=== x-_-x [highvolt@AC9ECBEB.ipt.aol.com] has left #ubuntu []
rubixXxto restart sound isn't it like invoke.rc sound restart ?06:03
knucksBiteMeBill: ok i added the extra repositories06:03
arbeckBiteMeBill: what do you mean?  nautilus has never worked06:03
rubixXxnautilus works fine for me06:03
Myrttineighborlee: oh, did I mention... I like to live dangerously06:04
=== Sxxxhvo [AqdsVa@213.150.176.124] has joined #ubuntu
BiteMeBillknucks: have you dont' the update and then you should have them all listed in your synaptic06:04
MyrttiI keep my repositories on hoary06:04
knucksyeh all my repositories are installed06:04
knucksi checked through synaptic06:05
eruinanyone know where firefox stores its themes?06:05
=== robertj [~robertj@66-188-77-153.cpe.ga.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== yatana [~rox_rf@201.133.154.88] has left #ubuntu []
fgxeruin, chrome i think06:05
BiteMeBillarbeck: I've had it when nautilus has saved stuff from a previous burn and it was giving me problems.  Don't remember most of it just found out it was an error on my part that I had when leaving something checkmarked.06:05
neighborleeMyrtti, I get that impression06:05
arbeckrubixXx: it's not that nautilus competely doesn't work... just the cdburning functionality06:05
neighborleeMyrtti, heh06:05
MyrttiI want some kick ass wallpapers06:06
BiteMeBillknucks: what are you wanting to install?06:06
knucksim doing this:06:06
MyrttiI just deleted a whole bunch of old boring wallpapers06:06
knuckssudo apt-get install mplayer-fonts06:06
arbeckBiteMeBill: that's definately not it... because there would be nothing to save as I've never been able to use it to burn anything06:06
knucksand mplayer06:06
knucksso i can play divx06:06
neighborleeMyrtti, I think you can find some at gnome.org06:06
=== Gheb [~Dobqh@BSN-250-61-164.dsl.siol.net] has joined #ubuntu
regeyaneat...there's a push now to lower gnome memory usage.  'bout time. ;-)06:07
BiteMeBillknucks: what does sudo apt-get install mplayer-fonts return?06:07
Myrttiand you think I didn't look? :-D06:07
=== LordC_ is now known as LordC
knuckssome packages. its a plugin for firefox06:07
Myrttineighborlee: did that, and hebus.com, and deviantart :->06:07
knucksits all installed06:07
neighborleeMyrtti, ah kewl06:07
knucksbut i cant play video in ..say...Totem06:07
dazedBitemebill: went to go have a smoke hahah06:07
neighborleeknucks, you prob. need : libdvdcss206:07
Myrttitry totem-xine06:07
dazedxine-ui06:07
BiteMeBilldazed: sure!!!  LOL06:07
knucksneighborlee: apt-get it?06:08
neighborleeknucks, yup06:08
neighborleeknucks, long as you have universe ( or is it marillat) enabled06:08
MyrttiI think I'll go and have another peek at those wallpapers06:08
dazedknucks 'apt-get install xine-ui'06:08
dazedits better then totem poop06:08
dazedlol06:08
=== latia [latia@h148n2fls33o990.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu
rubixXxhow do you restart the sound server?06:08
neighborleeknucks, use synaptic its easier..although staying fresh with the commandline is never a bad thing ;-)06:08
BiteMeBillknucks: I'm not sure about Totem.  We didnt' get along very long and I went with gXine and VLC06:08
knucksim getting apt-get install xine-ui06:08
Myrttimethinks I'm too nerd06:09
dazedyeah me and totem didnt work out too well06:09
neighborleeMyrtti, join the crowd LOL06:09
BiteMeBillrubixXx: you may need to restart gnome.06:09
dazedi love xine-ui hvaent tried gxine06:09
rubixXxBiteMeBill): no i can restart sound server06:09
Tomcat_dazed: I love xine-ui as well... gxine always crashed on me.06:09
BiteMeBillinitd.rc sound restart ??06:10
arbeckOkay problem number two... my USB 2.0 HD doesn't work.  I get this error message, usb 3-6: device not accepting address 4, error -71.  I believe this is a kernel issue... any ideas?  anyone know an easy way to switch kernels?06:10
regeyayou could install totem-xine, but that uninstalls ubuntu-desktop for some reason06:10
knuckshaha06:10
knucksmm Chapelle Show :D06:10
BiteMeBillregeya: LMAO  I think I will stay away from that but thanks for the warning.06:10
dazedxmms cuts off all my other sound when its on...any way to fix...?06:11
=== Skwid__ [Skwid@stlaurent-1-82-228-247-28.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu
Tomcat_regeya: totem-xine replaces totem-gstreamer, but ubuntu-desktop depends on totem-gstreamer... so installation of totem-xine will uninstall ubuntu-desktop.06:12
BiteMeBillarbeck: I'm not sure on that one and will be quiet on that one.06:12
=== FireEgl [Ariel@Atlantica.DollarDNS.Net] has joined #Ubuntu
=== Dell [xxc@85.99.28.63] has joined #ubuntu
Dellhey google http://www.otomotivshow.com/  :)06:12
=== Dell [xxc@85.99.28.63] has left #ubuntu []
aeolistand so what06:12
=== Dell [xxc@85.99.28.63] has joined #ubuntu
Dellhey google http://www.otomotivshow.com/  :)06:13
=== Dell [xxc@85.99.28.63] has left #ubuntu []
regeyaTomcat_, indeed...but there's no good reason for that, though I suppose the devs want to *require* the gstreamer version of totem06:13
knuckshow do i "uninstall" Totem + Rhythmbox?06:13
aeolistyou can live without ubuntu-desktop06:13
dazedno need knux06:13
dazedknucks*06:13
=== Levander [~cponder@user-11208c5.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu
knucksdazed: why?06:13
regeyayeah...there are wild rumors that not having ubuntu-desktop installed can mess with the upgrade process (though I've had no worries)06:13
BiteMeBillknucks: easiest way for you would be through synaptic.06:13
LevanderIs the MySQL query browser application not available via the Ubuntu repositories?06:13
Levandermysql.com says its available under the GPL06:14
knuckscan you run me through as how id do that?06:14
knucksi have Synaptic open06:14
aeolistknucks: through synaptic06:14
rubixXxhow do i restart my sound server06:14
BiteMeBillknucks: Do a search for each one and then right click it and choose uninstall06:14
Levanderrubixxx, look for a script in /etc/init.d06:14
knucksahh that easy eh?06:14
knucksTHanks06:14
rubixXxLevander): what do i open the file in06:15
eruinanyone here got the pinstripe theme for firefox?06:15
arbeckLevander: I installed mysqlcc through synaptic easy enough06:15
Levanderrubixxx, don't have to open any file06:15
fgxeruin, what's the matter?06:15
Levander"ls /etc/init.d" will give u a bunch of start / stop scripts, look for one named after your sound server06:15
Levanderarbeck, looking for mysqlcc in apt-cache search now06:16
Levanderarbeck, cool, found it, didn't know it was called mysqlcc, great!06:16
rubixXxLevander): thank you06:17
dazedall other sound cuts off when xmms is playing...any wayt to fix?06:17
arbeckLevander: it's alot more than a query browser... it's also a table manager, and database manager... but it will let you run SQL queries06:17
=== krix [~krics@fibhost-29-146.fibernet.bacs-net.hu] has joined #ubuntu
krixhey06:17
Levanderarbeck, don't think i'll use it right away, but u know the package name for the MySQL Administrator application?06:17
krixi installed ubuntu array6 amd64 version at now.06:17
aeolisthas anybody tried epiphany?06:17
krixI want to install NVidia drivers for my system, but the installer say error to me.06:18
Levanderrubixxx, all your system daemons have scripts in there to start and stop06:18
Levanderrubixxx, u figured out how to run the script?06:18
BiteMeBilldazed: I remember reading about how to play two sounds at once in the forums.  But I'm not sure.06:18
eruinfgx: if so, I'd like to have a look at it =)06:18
arbeckLevander: I'm pretty sure mysqlcc can do every thing the mysql administrator can06:18
regeyawhat's the name of the most current mysql admin program...I'd search for it if I knew...I have mysqlcc installed, though it's obsolete06:18
krixi saw /var/log/nvidia-installer.log and it says some compiling error.06:18
=== Chiar [GOUVieB@host56-241.pool80117.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu
eruinI'm tired of being stuck with the gnome theme and the qute theme06:18
=== ups [~ups@61.246.163.3] has joined #ubuntu
krixsomething bad in include/linux/prefetch.h (some void * thing)06:19
krixany idea please? :)06:19
=== mindphasr [~mind@68.31.36.53] has joined #ubuntu
Tomcat_regeya: I think the reason behind this is that the devs want people to have a general installed based of packages, so ubuntu-desktop depends on everything...06:19
Tomcat_regeya: Like... easier for support and updates.06:19
dazedok...also...how do i get a PIM list so i can kill a PIM06:19
krixi can not install nvidia drivers with apt-get because i'm using 2.6.11-1 package from ubuntu and it has not got modules for this kernel version.06:19
Levanderrubixxx, okay, I'm just looking at the mysql pages for the first time, no real idea what these things do.  Maybe I won't need the administrator app06:19
fgxeruin, did u have a look at tools-->themes in firefox?06:19
Levanderrubixxx, would be nice to know the name of the package in case i wanna check it out later though06:19
Myrttigoddammit I hate google search for firefox06:20
Myrttino wait06:20
MyrttiI don't hate it06:20
regeyawhat's 'the administrator app'06:20
MyrttiI just don't like it06:20
=== LordC [~lordc@cpc4-mfld3-4-0-cust215.nott.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu
Levanderarbeck, those last two were for u, not rubixxx, i messed up06:20
eruinfgx: yes. 99.9% of the themes on their site suck :P I want the pinstripe theme, as seen on http://www.lynucs.org/index.php?screen_id=1590386717404602429c41d&p=screen ;-)06:20
Levanderregeya, http://www.mysql.com/products/administrator/06:20
dazedwhast the syntax for gettin the PIM list ?06:20
=== WildRabbit [~WildRabbi@adsl7-69.simnet.is] has joined #ubuntu
BiteMeBillregeya: would webmin cover that?06:20
rubixXxhmmm06:21
rubixXxi don't have any sound06:21
=== tsw [tsw@spider.lemtek.fi] has left #ubuntu ["bye"]
rubixXximma try to restart gnome06:21
Levanderrubixxx, u figured out how to run those scripts?06:21
=== larsson_ [~larsson@h164n3c1o285.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu
arbeckLevander: well, i administrate a mysql database here... and I've never needed anything more than mysqlcc06:21
fgxeruin, did u try googling a little bit more?06:21
Levanderrubixxx, run 'scriptname stop' to stop daemon, then 'scriptname start' to restart it06:21
dazedBiteMeBill: u know the string for gettin the PIM list?06:21
Levanderarbeck, cool the query browser oughtta be more than enough for now, thanks!06:22
dazedmy xmms stalled up and i cant close it06:22
LordCHow do you change the default sound device?06:22
=== rubixXx [~rubix@ip68-103-55-163.ks.ok.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu
Levanderarbeck, give me plenty to play w, i'll keep in mind i prolly don't even need the adminstrator app06:22
BiteMeBillps -aux ?06:22
Myrttiyou atleast had xmms working06:22
MyrttiI can't get mine starting06:22
larsson_Hi. Just installed Ubuntu on my other computer. Works fine, but it cant boot Windows from grub. I can mount the NTFS windows partition in Linux, and it works fine. Its located in /dev/hda1 and it works fine. But when choosing Windows in grub, it says: "rootnoverify (hd0,0) make active chainloader +1" then, nothing more happens. Any ideas?06:23
rubixXxhmmmm no sound06:23
Myrttior it starts, but vanishes in a heartbeat06:23
regeyadunno, Levander, but it looks really handy :-/06:23
arbeckLevander: what are you using MySQL for?06:23
=== regeya grumbls
krixhm.06:23
=== |rufius| [~suifur@suifur.linuxfordummies] has joined #ubuntu
krixany idea ?06:23
regeya'no you don't need to use MySQL for that are you crazy?'06:23
fgxeruin, mmm... it seems it is available only for mac osx06:23
Levanderarbeck, basically to learn it, spent six hours yesterday learning by trial and error the grant privileges06:23
BiteMeBillregeya: did you look at this?  http://www.mysql.com/products/administrator/06:23
fgxeruin, dunno why06:23
Levanderthen finally found good article about it today06:23
regeyaBiteMeBill, why yes I did, after Levander pointed it out to me.06:24
=== fgdh [~fgdh@dsl81-215-41339.adsl.ttnet.net.tr] has joined #ubuntu
=== dazed [~dazed@adsl-219-156-58.aep.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu
larsson_No one knows anything about my grub issue?06:24
BiteMeBillregeya: Sorry day late and a dollar short here.  LOL06:24
Levanderregeya, don't know mysql for what??06:24
arbeckLevander: do you have a specific use you want to use it for?  I'd sometimes suggest other databases for most work06:25
Levanderdont need mysql for what*06:25
Levanderarbeck, just running wordpress06:25
eruinfgx: I know why, but judging by that screenshot, someone has sliced one up for win/linux06:25
regeyaLevander, sorry, I was making a cynical prediction about the direction the conversation was going :->06:25
Levanderregeya, ha!06:25
regeyahence the quotes06:25
=== Lemonzest [~Lemonzest@cpc1-nott4-3-0-cust27.nott.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu
rubixXxanyone have any ideas on troubleshooting my sound06:25
Levanderregeya, u see what arbeck said, u guessed right!06:26
=== ulx_ [~ulx@54.Red-213-98-190.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu
Levanderarbeck, what u recommend for web sites in general?06:26
BiteMeBilllarsson_: do you need to install grub or do you need to edit the grub list?06:26
regeyaindeed.06:26
=== redissexy [~redissexy@201009180220.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu
=== Wawwb [~TUHRLFt@83.235.103.143] has joined #ubuntu
regeyaa lot of people tend to recommend postgresql...I couldn06:26
djpdo i need to enable spamd by editing the /etc/default/spamassassin file to use spamassassin with evolution?06:26
Levanderarbeck, i saw postgesql won ars-technica's database of the year06:26
regeyat possibly make a recommendation b/c I have no need for a database server, really06:27
regeyak-lined!06:27
regeyaheh06:27
Levanderthose ars awards is where i found out about ubuntu, that was an excellent recommendation06:27
=== marcin_ant [~marcin@www.e-dev.tele2.pl] has joined #ubuntu
larsson_Hi. Just installed Ubuntu on my other computer. Works fine, but it cant boot Windows from grub. I can mount the NTFS windows partition in Linux, and it works fine. Its located in /dev/hda1 and it works fine. But when choosing Windows in grub, it says: "rootnoverify (hd0,0) make active chainloader +1" then, nothing more happens. Any ideas?06:27
Levanderwas thinking there might be more great stuff in there i should try06:27
arbeckLevander: for most websites MySQL is fine... it's quick dirty and easy... and very fast.  Just make sure you back up often, and hope your data isn't the most important... plus MySQL has the upside that alot of web software was created with it in mind06:28
Levanderarbeck, if back-ups are that important, how will i know when my data starts getting corrupted?06:28
=== dr_willis [~willis@12-202-192-44.client.insightBB.com] has joined #Ubuntu
robertjarbeck: MySQL is fine for very important data06:28
Levanderarbeck, worried the data in my backups is corrupted06:28
arbeckarbeck: however, if you are really interested in doing something mission critical... postgres or firebird is probably better06:28
=== Ocid [~pete@dsl-lprgw4s2a.dial.inet.fi] has joined #Ubuntu
arbeckLevander: it's not that data gets corrupted... i've just seen data dissappaear06:29
Levanderthought firebird was the original name of the firefox browser, it's a dbms?06:29
rubixXxhmm....for some reason my sound isn't working at all.  I have the emu10k1 modules loaded into the kernel...i have tried restarting the server, volume is up, speakers are hooked up correctly but still no sound06:29
arbeckLevander: now you know why they changed it to firefox :)06:29
robertjLevander: mysql has the huge advantage of being available on all the major platforms + having a good win32 odbc connector06:29
Levanderarbeck, fuck, how would i know when it disappear?  What if it disappears, i make a bunch of backups, then i notice.  it's not in the backups anymore!06:30
aeolistwho had an xmms issue?06:30
dazedi do06:30
dazedcant play 2 sounds at once06:30
aeolistdid you install libmikmod2 ?06:30
Levanderarbeck, how??06:30
Montaghwouldnt install for me06:31
dazedwhen xmms is playing06:31
aeolistoh, that's a different issu06:31
aeolisti think ubuntuforums is full of answers for that06:31
arbeckLevander: no... not like that... i've never had data dissappear from my DB... i've had a bunch of data get inserted, and it dissapears before it ever gets written to disc.  It doesn't happen very often (probably 2x in 3 years) but when it does it just looks like the insert failed06:31
=== ogra [~ogra@p508EAC13.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu
dazedcan i get a link...to lazy to open browser lol06:31
Levanderarbeck, okay cool06:31
=== _tester_ [~yz@216.238.205.45] has joined #ubuntu
=== karsten_ [~karsten@host-66-81-219-225.rev.o1.com] has joined #ubuntu
Levanderarbeck, will remind me when i'm writing software for it, make damn sure insert works before i get rid of data I created for it, prolly a good idea in general anyway.06:32
arbeckLevander: MySQL is fine for most home databases... and slashdot.org uses it, so it can scale well... it's just not what i would call mission critical yet... I use it for my website though without issue06:32
=== m-foxela [~legolas@port-212-202-8-100.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #ubuntu
arbeckLevander: that's always a good idea...06:33
aeolistis gnomebaker on the repositories?06:33
arbeckLevander: http://arbeck.net if you want to see a simple site that uses it06:33
Levanderarbeck, what u think is best database client, to do queries and such, available (for free) on Linux?06:33
=== Quest-Master prefers MySQL.. PostgreSQL looks nice though too
Levanderarbeck, i checked out the new OOo database application in OOo 2, thought it sucked, looked incomplete, may be better, later, like next year06:34
=== HeinrchWulfli [~Silon_Wel@80-218-1-18.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #ubuntu
HeinrchWulflihi freaks06:34
arbeckLevander: for mysql, mysqlcc is the best for me... but i find if I'm going to be doing anything complicated I just do it myself in python06:34
Levanderarbeck, would be nice if it can connect to any db, including commercial ones06:34
aeolistus freaks?06:34
aeolistnah06:34
robertjMySQL + phpMyAdmin is ok06:34
=== andrewski [~andrewski@pool-151-197-228-57.phil.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu
Levanderarbeck, any good ones that connect to multiple DB, commercial server or otherwise?06:35
djpanybody here know how to use spamassassin?06:35
Levanderrobertj, phpMyAdmin lets u do queries?06:35
shockapt-get install spamassasin06:35
shock?06:35
scizzodjp: depends in what you want to use it06:35
HeinrchWulfliis there a netinstall image out there?06:35
=== scandium [~scandium@p50808E7A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu
scizzodjp: spamc is the command to use for spamassassin06:35
andrewskican anyone recommend a good ogg encoder frontend?  (i've been using grip for mp3s.)06:35
robertjLevander: SQL queries06:36
scizzoandrewski: sound-juicer06:36
Levanderandrewski, grip also works for ogg, it's what i used to use06:36
djpshock: do i need to enable spamd? it is deisabled by default06:36
robertjit does have a really bare-bones gui query builder06:36
arbeckLevander: that I don't know... every commercial server i've used has always come with it's own front end... of course my knowledge of commercial databases is limited to Oracle, SQL Server, and Informix06:36
andrewskiLevander: "used to"?06:36
=== dhen [~dhenjhidz@203.76.247.196] has joined #ubuntu
Quest-MasterphpMyAdmin rocks.06:36
djpscizzo: i want to use it with evolution06:36
Levanderandrewski, haven't used it in awhile, coupla years06:36
=== lamont [~lamont@mix.mmjgroup.com] has joined #ubuntu
andrewskiscizzo: is it better than grip, or just the default for ubuntu? :)06:36
arbeckandrewski: grip works fine for ogg...06:36
HeinrchWulflii just found http://www.wrigley.me.uk/wp/?p=71  but it seems to be a dirty way.. isnt there another way??06:36
robertjphpMyAdmin's permissions interface is really good06:36
Levanderandrewski, grip lets u set of lot more options than sound-juicer, sound-juicer for newbies06:36
andrewskiLevander: in favor of something else, or not using anything....06:36
andrewski?06:37
djpscizzo: do i need to enable spamd to use with evolution? spamd is disabled by default?06:37
Myrttichocolate!06:37
arbeckandrewski: sound-juicer really can't do enough... i needed to rip to flac, and then convert to mp3, grip can do things like that sound-juicer can't06:37
Levanderandrewski, just have done any ripping in a coupla years, usu get my music over internet now, not CD's, all my CD's already ripped06:37
=== regeya votes for grip
dazedyeah no xmms thing on the forums06:37
Levanderarbeck, exactly, that's the diff between the two06:37
andrewskiarbeck: yeah, i don't like sound-juicer, just wanted to see if there was anything else.06:38
andrewskiLevander: ok, thanks.06:38
Levanderarbeck, makes me feel better about your db recommendations06:38
=== Ocid [~pete@dsl-lprgw4s2a.dial.inet.fi] has left #Ubuntu ["Leaving"]
andrewskii'm sticking to grip!06:38
=== andrewski has such bad puns.
Montaghi vote for grip06:38
dhenis there a GUI for internet dial-up in ubuntu? because i am usin wvdial.06:38
Montaghgkdial06:38
aeolistgnome-ppp06:39
Montaghaltho i use gnome-ppp06:39
Levanderi fixed a bug in grip, that programmer's not the best, but he's worked so hard on grip, he's got the functionality working as far as the user is concerned06:39
aeolistbetter than gkdial :)06:39
vincehow do i chance background color and font colors in xemacs?06:39
aeolistmontagh lol06:39
Montaghhehe06:39
arbeckLevander: I'd also suggest learning python and how to pass queries to mysql through it... it's how I do alot of 'remote' maitenance06:39
dhenMontagh, is it installed by default?06:39
Montaghnup, i had to find it elsewhere06:39
Montaghit wasnt in any of my sources06:39
=== hikaru79 [~hikaru79@d57-4-59.home.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu
Levanderarbeck, yeah, lots in common in our computer geek choices, i just wrote a 300 line python script to download all my favorite NPR programs via cron every day06:40
JDahlvince, options->edit faces06:40
Levanderlove python06:40
hikaru79If I've updated to hoary, and am now using xorg, it's safe to remove xfree86, right?06:40
=== joh_ [~joh@grn-dhcp215.studby.uio.no] has joined #ubuntu
HeinrchWulflipls help06:40
dhenwhere can i download gnome-ppp for gnome 2.8.x06:40
JDahlhikaru79, yes06:40
Levanderarbeck, never used it to talk to a database though06:40
hikaru79Thanks, JDahl =)06:40
Quest-Masterhikaru79: Did you upgrade to Hoary? How stable is it?06:40
knucksguys help06:40
hikaru79Quest-Master, it's great06:40
knucksi need to find a file i moved06:40
hikaru79They're very close to release06:40
hikaru79Everything seems to be very very fine06:41
HeinrchWulflinoone helps here06:41
hikaru79I've gotten my NVidia card all set up06:41
hikaru79Network is no problem06:41
=== CodyC [~crawford@cpe-70-112-108-140.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
BiteMeBillknucks find -name <filename> should work06:41
hikaru79Haven't encountered a single problem yet =)06:41
arbeckLevander: I've got python scripts on cron that do alot to my database... for instance: I have a list of every CD I own on my database.  But I don't want to manually insert them.  So a python script queries my ripped cd's nightly and if it finds one that isn't online it inserts it06:41
vincecool, thanks JDahl06:42
Montaghhttp://packages.debian.org/unstable/net/gnome-ppp06:42
=== leonel is now known as kab
dhenMontagh, where did u find gnome-ppp for gnome 2.8.x? gnome-ppp-0.3.20 is only for 2.606:42
=== kab is now known as leonel
=== _adw_ [~adw@230.80-203-59.nextgentel.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== Alessio [~Alessio@host113-4.pool8251.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu
Montaghah not sure06:43
=== Skid [~chris@82-32-195-206.cable.ubr05.newt.blueyonder.co.uk] has left #ubuntu []
=== MHOiH [IUfpQC@host56-241.pool80117.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu
hikaru79What is "Anjuta2" called? I remember that they call it something else now...06:44
JDahlhikaru79, explore the wonders of apt-cache search anjuta06:45
=== dr_willis [~willis@12-202-192-44.client.insightBB.com] has left #Ubuntu ["Leaving"]
=== tck [~tck@213-202-151-211.bas503.dsl.esat.net] has joined #ubuntu
blizahanything to be warry about with ubuntu on a laptop?06:47
blizah1-1.5 years old06:48
tckblizah, no probs for me06:48
tckmine is about 6-8 years old06:48
blizahwhat about the wifi?06:48
BiteMeBillblizah: Yea make sure it's linux compatable first.  LOL06:48
tckblizah, im using wifi at the mo, a la orinoco card06:48
LinuxJonesblizah, what kind of card do you have ?06:48
=== erlend_ [~erlend@0x50a59de6.svgnxx2.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu
blizahits in the pci slot and its a aiwa or something (its my friends laptop)06:48
=== snotling [~snotling@laf31-5-82-235-128-93.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu
LinuxJonesblizah, you should try to find out what kind of chipset the card uses and check here >> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards06:50
blizahk06:50
Levanderarbeck, what was your website? think i am gonna check it out06:50
blizahtnx06:50
hikaru79I have a vfat partition on my hard drive that I'm wanting to share between Windows and Ubuntu. The Ubuntu installer was great with adding it to fstab, but what should I change so that ALL linux users have full permissions on it?06:51
=== snotling [~snotling@laf31-5-82-235-128-93.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== mhy [~mark@vodka.oikos.uk.net] has joined #ubuntu
hikaru79Should I change 'defaults' to 'rw,user,noauto'?06:51
aeolistyeah06:52
andrewskianyone use oggenc?  should i use -b or -q for encoding files?06:52
aeolistnope06:52
=== lunitik [~trey@ip68-230-75-109.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu
Levanderarbeck, from looking at the suggested packages for mysqlcc, it does look like that client can talk to postgreSQL06:52
BiteMeBillhikaru79: http://ubuntuguide.org/#automountfat06:52
johnwlittleautomountfat..theres a joke in there somewhere06:52
=== craigaa [~craigaa@nngy-165-183-111.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu
hikaru79BiteMeBill, it's already automounting06:53
=== [m0rph] [~morph@p83.129.182.82.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #ubuntu
Quest-MasterBiteMeBill: That doesn't work properly06:53
hikaru79I'm just wondering what to change to give full permissions to regular users06:53
hikaru79Can I do "defaults,users"?06:53
hikaru79(For "<Options>")06:53
=== mg__ [~mg@cpc2-leed1-4-0-cust93.ldst.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu
BiteMeBillthe umask doesn't work right?06:53
Quest-MasterI've tried but always gotten problems somewhere06:53
Quest-Master:\06:53
Quest-MasterYeah06:53
=== virtuald [danielh@tsukasa.networksolutions.se] has joined #ubuntu
Quest-MasterMaybe rw,exec,suid.. since defaults = (nosuid, rw, noexec) and a few more things06:54
=== cyberix [~cyberix@hki2-6-3-fb.hoasnet.inet.fi] has left #ubuntu []
=== bvn [bnmm@85.97.88.241] has joined #ubuntu
BiteMeBillhmmm It's working here fine for both vfat and ntfs06:54
Quest-MasterWeird06:55
erlend_Does anybody have the problem that gnome is taking about 5 minutes before it responds (right after i log in).. after that, it starts normally06:55
=== ernstp [~ernstp@k13d217-2.kam.afb.lu.se] has joined #ubuntu
erlend_i use hoary06:55
erlend_the problem has been there for several weeks06:55
BiteMeBillBRB06:55
=== rattboi [~rattboi@c-24-22-178-137.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
rattboihi guys06:56
rattboiI have a few questions06:56
=== aroman [~aroman@Toronto-HSE-ppp3708902.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu
ernstpis there a way to enable smooth-scroll in ubuntu?06:56
rattboiI already had one system that I started with Warty, then apt-get'd to hoary06:57
ernstpgentoo has the smoothscroll patch as default06:57
rattboibut I just installed Hoary from a nightly cd, and I seem to be having some issues getting some of the stuff that works on my other system working06:57
rattboibefore, I followed ubuntu guide and got multimedia codecs working, but this time it said it can't06:58
=== jeff__ [~jeff@adsl-0-112-139.btr.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu
jeff__hey guys, my sister turned off my ubuntu the other day just by pressing the power button06:59
=== thekoreuk is now known as thekore|away
jeff__now everytime i leave my computer on over night when i wake up its frozen06:59
jeff__any ideas of what i could do07:00
ernstpfsck?07:00
=== craigaa [~craigaa@nngy-165-183-111.telkomadsl.co.za] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
BiteMeBillQuest-Master: That is what I have in my fstab and seems to be working fine on both machines.07:01
jeff__dosent want to run on a mounted file system07:01
ernstpno, you have to use a rescue disc, livecd07:01
jeff__ooh ok07:02
jeff__see when that happend when i was on slackware, it noticed the damage done to the file system and ran checks then fixed them07:02
jeff__ on boot, does ubuntu linux not do the same?07:03
=== ceu [~ruut@194-185-170-113.f4.ngi.it] has joined #ubuntu
BiteMeBilljeff__: Only when it hasn't done it in certain amount of times.07:04
BiteMeBillie: 30 startups.07:04
=== Ryaan [ee@81.213.69.239] has joined #ubuntu
rattboidoes marillat's repo need a PGP key now?07:04
jeff__so do you guys think if i run fschk with a live cd, then it will solve my problems of freezing up?07:05
BiteMeBilljeff__: if there is corruption there it should.07:05
jeff__oh07:05
[m0rph] has anyone here built beagle?07:05
rattboianyone?07:06
[m0rph] er, I mean someone07:06
rattboiI'm getting errors when trying to connect to marillat's repo because of some security07:06
BiteMeBillrattboi: I haven't had to add anything to mine so I don't think so.07:06
jeff__does freezing up after being on all night sound like it could be a file system problem?07:06
BiteMeBillcorruption can do and cause lots of things.07:07
regeyajeff__: dunno, but it may behoove you to fsck07:07
jeff__ahh07:07
BiteMeBillrattboi: I just checked with mine and it had no problems connecting.07:08
djpdo i need to enable spamd in order to use spamassassin with evolution?07:08
=== Lemonzest [~Lemonzest@cpc1-nott4-3-0-cust27.nott.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== StoffBox-Steve [~steve@pD95F350D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu
StoffBox-Stevecan i remove screenserver that not are in use ?07:09
=== bretzel [~felix@modemcable128.237-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu
=== hawke [~hawke@hawkesnest.net] has joined #ubuntu
rattboiah07:11
rattboijust found what was going on, I think07:11
rattboiwell, at least part of my problem07:11
BiteMeBillrattboi: do share07:11
rattboiI think I can use marillat's repo with apt-get, but not synaptic07:11
rattboiI was missing the main repos :P07:11
rattboiI had multi and uni, but not main07:12
BiteMeBillrattboi: well that might help. LOL  I used Synaptic when I checked.07:12
=== |rufius| [~suifur@adsl-69-154-78-187.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== MindZEye [~MindZEye@seanparsons.plus.com] has left #ubuntu ["Later."]
rattboihuh07:13
rattboican I paste the message I get?07:13
rattboiwell, mp3 works now :P07:14
=== froust [~liam@S0106000f6694d7bf.ed.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu
froustAnyone know what the name of the default gnome text editor is?07:14
StoffBox-Stevegedit i think froust07:14
rattboiyeah, gedit07:15
rattboibtw, does anyone here use system monitor applet?07:15
rattboimine is reporting that swap is 0% used07:15
froustthanks07:15
=== StoffBox-Steve Love this great StreamTuner Tool
=== LordC [~lordc@cpc4-mfld3-4-0-cust215.nott.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== lok [~heka@facultes-3-82-228-151-150.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== Tomcat_ [tomcat@p54A1B2DB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu
StoffBox-Stevewhats your Fav. Linux Game Guys ?07:19
=== karsten_ is now known as karsten
LoevborgStoffBox-Steve, I like frozen-bubble. (the only one I really played)07:20
=== xabier [~xabier@85.84.29.110] has joined #ubuntu
StoffBox-Stevei use it rattboi ... but by me swap is 0% use too :)07:20
LoevborgStoffBox-Steve, the best games are old commercial games you can play with scummvm or dosbox07:20
=== Fleebailey66 [~andy@c-67-163-138-215.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
zeedoStoffBox-Steve: Enemy Territory07:21
StoffBox-Stevehehe Loevborg i love the old C64 game :)07:21
rattboiStoffBox-Steve, is that an error, or are we actually not using any swap?07:21
rattboiI can't imagine no swap07:21
rattboioh07:21
StoffBox-Stevehmm i think i dont use it ... by Ram it fast 512MB (400mhz) ... and not full in use07:22
rattboiI guess I'm using 2.8 mb of swap07:22
=== tolstoy [~tolstoy@c-67-171-195-50.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
lokrattboi, I never use my swap or just a little ^^07:22
=== tolstoy [~tolstoy@c-67-171-195-50.client.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
rattboiI always thought it put like half into swap anyways07:22
loknop07:22
rattboibut apparently it just uses swap when ram is low07:22
rattboiok07:22
rattboidid anyone try 2.6.11-1-k7?07:23
lokwhen the ram is too small for a progs it's swap07:23
ernstpwe have to get ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/Linux/distributions/gentoo/distfiles/gtk+-2.6-smoothscroll-r2.patch   into ubuntu!!07:23
rattboiI tried it and froze when gnome started07:23
StoffBox-Steve*GG* nobody useing Swap ... i wounder why it says you need 2xRam for swamp ... for what ? *GG*07:23
regeyagood game?07:23
lokernstp, what's do that patch07:23
LordCMy volume control broke :/ I clicked Treble, it closed - and wont open again.07:24
LordCIf i try opening gnome-volume-control in terminal, it says segment fault07:24
LordC:( whats with that?07:24
regeyagnome goes through ram like a crack whore goes...nevermind.  swap is still a good idea.07:24
rattboiwhat are those settings to tweak my dvdrom speed to use DMA?07:24
rattboiI can't remember now07:24
Loevborgrattboi, look at "man hdparm"07:25
rattboihdparm07:25
StoffBox-Steveswap it a good idea .. but not need 1 GB swap, i think ... my Swap is set to 450 MB ...07:26
=== Levander [~cponder@user-11208c5.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu
StoffBox-SteveLoevborg, frozen-bubble is a Funny small Game :D *like it :D07:27
=== MikeGTN [~mike@greatnorthern.demon.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu
rattboiI have a fat32 partition that I want all users to be able to read/write07:29
=== King_Crimson [~chatzilla@ool-44c239cb.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu
rattboihow do I do that?07:29
King_Crimsonhey guyd07:29
=== Devinci [~Devinci@HSE-Kitchener-ppp230671.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu
rattboihey guy07:29
=== ironwolf_ [~ironwolf@c-24-6-169-124.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
King_Crimsoni got a question07:29
=== Rocco [~lukas@dsl-78-56.utaonline.at] has joined #ubuntu
=== Rocco [~lukas@dsl-78-56.utaonline.at] has left #ubuntu ["Kopete]
King_Crimsoni downloaded the bubuntu iso and unrared it07:30
King_Crimsonbut now wat do i do07:30
rattboiunrared?07:30
rattboiwhat is your purpose?07:30
King_Crimsonwell i want to make a live cd07:31
=== mario [~mario@200.54.6.37] has joined #ubuntu
King_Crimsonso i dled the iso07:31
King_Crimsonof warthog07:31
rattboiok, then you burn the iso07:31
rattboiyou don't unrar it07:31
King_Crimsonthe whole folder?07:31
rattboiburning programs understand isos are disk images07:31
rattboiwhat aer you burning with?07:32
King_Crimsoncuz i have this folder it sez start, programs, exe,base, bin, copy07:32
=== Rocco [~lukas@dsl-78-56.utaonline.at] has joined #ubuntu
King_Crimsonnothing really07:32
King_Crimsoni have a Nero trial07:32
rattboiok, so open Nero07:32
Devinciyou extratcted the iso with winrar, that is not what ou have to do to get your lice CD07:32
Roccohat do i have to write in scaling_cur_freq so that the user can change die cpu-freq?07:32
King_Crimsono, then wat do i ahve to do07:32
Myrttiyou just burn the iso with the nero you have07:33
Myrttion CD07:33
Devincilike rattboi said, burn it ah hes gone07:33
Myrttidumba**07:33
Myrttisorry07:33
Roccowhat do i have to write in scaling_available so that the user can change die cpu-freq?07:33
=== henke [~henrik@host022.robackshus3.ac.se] has joined #ubuntu
henkehas the work being made on the bootup process made its way into Hoary?07:34
=== Rocco [~lukas@dsl-78-56.utaonline.at] has left #ubuntu ["Kopete]
=== [Zenith] [~dadg@alesund-dhcp-242-4.bluecom.no] has joined #ubuntu
BiteMeBillAnyone running Hoary in here and dual booting also?07:35
StoffBox-Stevehow i can uninstall game, that where installed by default ? when i try to deinstall it allways whant to deinstall ubuntu-desktop :s07:35
lokBiteMeBill, me07:36
BiteMeBilllok: Could you please send me a copy of your grub menu.lst for review of something?07:37
=== andrewski [~andrewski@pool-151-197-228-57.phil.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu
BiteMeBilllok: Thank you..  Now to just find where it saved.  LOL07:38
AmaranthBiteMeBill: ~/.xchat2/ ?07:39
lokin the Desktop with gnome07:39
lokor ~/.xchat2/download07:39
StoffBox-Steve.xchat/downloads/name/07:39
djpanyobdy know how to restore gnome volume control? mine has vanished :(07:39
JDahljdp, left click panel and add applet07:40
=== DXT^away is now known as DXT
bretzelHow is array-6 compared to array-5 fully updated ??07:40
=== ups [~ups@61.246.163.3] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
djpJDahl: left clicking but nothing happening07:42
=== Rocco [~lukas@dsl-91-119.utaonline.at] has joined #ubuntu
=== oly [~oly@host81-129-52-203.range81-129.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu
JDahldjp, nothing happens when you left your panel? then probably gnome-panels is dead and you need to restart gnome07:43
JDahls/left/left-click/07:43
Roccodoes anyone use CPUFREQ....i need an original settig :)07:43
=== toffy [~bjorn@80.203.83.189] has joined #ubuntu
=== VR^ [VR@154-111.200-68.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
bretzeljDahl: -- or if you can use terminal: "killall -TERM gnome-panel"  ??07:44
JDahlbretzel, does gnome-panel automatically restart?07:44
bretzeljDahl: Yes it is set to respwan07:44
bretzelby default07:45
bretzelrespawn -- sorry07:45
=== Dr_Acemaster [~Dr_Acemas@c-24-11-89-119.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== ninadb [nandi@203.94.218.229] has joined #ubuntu
bretzeljDahl:  if -TERM dosen't work, -KILL, or -907:45
=== ninadb [nandi@203.94.218.229] has left #ubuntu []
JDahldjp, I meant right-clicking, of course :P07:46
=== jovian [~jovian@c-24-118-74-107.mn.client2.attbi.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== antrix [~antrix@cm173.gamma93.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #ubuntu
=== Kaloz [~kaloz@arrakis.dune.hu] has joined #ubuntu
=== zenwhen [zenwhen@h-67-102-63-103.phlapafg.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== _miracoolix_ [~micha@pD9EB0D44.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu
=== apokryphos [~apokrypho@host-84-9-32-191.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== pisuke [~luis@84-120-66-197.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== hypn0 [~chatzilla@host81-7-58-109.surfport24.v21.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu
=== pitti [~martin@box79162.elkhouse.de] has joined #ubuntu
=== elmaya [elmaya@201.133.215.125] has joined #ubuntu
=== gub [~gub@fac34-1-82-231-24-63.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu
_miracoolix_hi, can someone give me a pointer, why ubuntu is so popular now?07:53
djpcan anybody help me out with a spamassassin question!07:53
Myrtti_miracoolix_: why are you asking ;-D07:54
djp_miracoolix_: it's getting good press on al ot of linux sites at present07:54
djp_miracoolix_: would like to know if i need to enable spamd in order to use spamassassin with evolution?07:55
=== FAST [~ryan@ip68-4-125-152.oc.oc.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== froust [~liam@S0106000f6694d7bf.ed.shawcable.net] has left #ubuntu []
JDahl_miracoolix_, I dont think there's a feature-list showing the Ubuntu is better than other distros point by point, but why dont you google for some ubuntu reviews?07:56
apokryphosThere is no such thing as an objectively "best" distro. Different distributions suit different needs and/or likes.07:57
_miracoolix_I'm currently using fedora core 3 and am pretty happy. but i always like to try out new emerging things :)07:57
_miracoolix_maybe i should just install it on a spare partition07:58
=== larsg [~larsg@port793.ds1-abc.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu
JDahl_miracoolix_, one thing I find amazing about Ubuntu is that it suits the needs of both experienced users and newbies... I used Debian for years, and I love Ubuntu07:59
apokryphosI went from Fedora 3 to Ubuntu, too. They're both decent distros, but I've stuck with Ubuntu because (i) I find it faster, (ii) larger repositories, (iii) I'm warming to debian-based-systems.07:59
=== larsg [~larsg@port793.ds1-abc.adsl.cybercity.dk] has left #ubuntu []
apokryphosAnd (iv) the IRC community is larger/better.07:59
=== IvyCQHome [~Sir@c906a0a6.virtua.com.br] has joined #ubuntu
djp_miracoolix_: i have moved over from fc3 just recently. i will be staying with ubuntu. however i do love fc3 as well08:00
=== LtKernel [~teeuu@063-170-215-175.dslnorthwest.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== cowbud [crucible@4.13.23.236] has joined #ubuntu
=== mips [~mips@ndn-165-142-42.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu
=== daveeeee [~dave@220.sub-70-214-207.myvzw.com] has joined #ubuntu
djp_miracoolix_: only thing that i have a problem with that i did not have with fc3 is trying to get apps like tovid or avidemux to work under ubuntu. i believe there is a transcode problme with ubuntu at present08:01
=== jupiter [~jupiter@d-65-175-156-202.metrocast.net] has joined #ubuntu
_miracoolix_djp: never heard about that apps. what is it?08:02
=== gaatmx [~gaatmx@dsl-200-78-32-67.prod-infinitum.com.mx] has joined #ubuntu
_miracoolix_apokryphos: fcs is a really slick distro. and yum has gotten better with every release08:04
_miracoolix_sorry, fc308:04
=== psy [~psy@a80-126-83-214.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu
psyhi08:04
JDahl_miracoolix_, a bit flamebait: the Debian package manager should be reason enough to make the switch08:05
=== d3s [0x2E2989@bzq-82-81-211-136.cablep.bezeqint.net] has joined #ubuntu
apokryphos_miracoolix_: it is a nice distro, certainly. It just doesn't have some capabilities like an apt-get dist-upgrade :P, if you like that sort of thing, which I do. Like running your distro's cvs.08:05
d3scan ubuntu support americas army game ? ( linux  version)08:06
JDahld3s, it runs on linux doesnt it?08:06
d3syea08:06
=== knucks [~chatzilla@pcp01189996pcs.waldlk01.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
knucksi cant get Realplayer working08:06
knucksi tried getting it using synaptic08:06
JDahld3s, so why wouldnt it work on ubuntu?08:06
d3sok thx08:07
_miracoolix_JDahl: i know. apt-get is much better. little storry: my first distro was debian 1.3. i got totally lost in dselect :)08:07
jupiterIs it the normal for when creating a user account for the /home/user folder to be set for Read for Group and Everyone08:07
jupiter?08:07
knucksWho here has gotten realplayer to work?08:07
tckme08:07
JDahl_miracoolix_, yeah... I hated dselect with all my guts, also08:07
tckfollow the ubuntuguide.org instructions08:07
knucksall right ill do that i guess08:07
djp_miracoolix_: tovid and avidemux allow you to create vcd, scvd and dvd's out of .mov, .avi etc. files08:08
scorpixanyone try to run DVD in Ubuntu and success?08:08
=== Rocco [~lukas@dsl-91-119.utaonline.at] has left #ubuntu ["Kopete]
djpscorpix: yes08:09
=== GNAM [h4mburg3r@host39-241.pool80183.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu
scorpixdjp: how you run it?08:09
djpscorpix: although i need to see how it works with my current re-install!!!08:09
scorpixi only able to run VCD08:09
djpscorpix: checkout the http://ubuntuguide.org site... it has a great howto for playing multimedia08:10
scorpixscorpix@ubuntu:~$ dpkg -l | grep libdvd08:12
scorpixii  libdvdcss2     1.2.8-0.0      Simple foundation for reading DVDs - runtime08:12
scorpixii  libdvdnav4     0.1.9-3        The DVD navigation library08:12
scorpixii  libdvdread3    0.9.4-5        Simple foundation for reading DVDs08:12
scorpixbut still gmplayer can't play them08:12
_miracoolix_djp: thanx, I#m not that much into video editing and ripping...08:13
antrixscorpix: can't play at all or can't play very well?08:14
_miracoolix_what is the state of java and java development tools available for ubunto? anyone doing java development on ubuntu?08:14
scorpixantrix: for dvds can't play at all08:14
=== rrm3 [rrm3@resin.csoft.net] has joined #ubuntu
antrixscorpix: that's strange, i just checked and i've got the same packages for dvdcss08:15
=== mirak_ [~mirak@AAubervilliers-152-1-5-162.w82-121.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu
JDahlscorpix, I didnt play with that for a long time, but I compiled mplayer myself (following the instructions on the mplayer homepage), and I was able to play DVDs and VCDs quite easily08:15
GNAMubuntu's packet management software is APT?08:15
=== wezzer [~antti@a80-186-42-221.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu
scorpixJDahl: i don't have problem with VCDs, only DVDs :(08:15
=== drasko [~drasko@kds8-030.ptt.yu] has joined #ubuntu
JDahlGNAM, yes... Ubuntu is Debian based08:15
antrixscorpix: any error messages from command line mplayer?08:16
=== Slaggy [~Slaggy@ip68-110-22-134.om.om.cox.net] has left #ubuntu []
draskohello08:16
bretzelscorpix: ...and what if using xine/gxine ??08:17
=== helio7 [~michael@wbar21.lax1-4.26.216.34.lax1.dsl-verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu
scorpixhow to use verbose mode in mplayer?08:17
scorpixbretzel: i dont have xine now08:17
=== Polmen [~poer@ti300720a080-7004.bb.online.no] has joined #ubuntu
bretzelI had problems playing DVDs with mplayer and co. but since jumped to xine and co, all plays so much well ...8-)08:18
helio7How do you kill a zombie process?  specifically, firefox just crashed, but I cant' reload it because it says it's still running... I can find it using the "top" command08:18
antrixjust running 'mplayer dvd://1' should give some output08:18
scorpixis there any free website for paste the output?08:18
helio7scorpix: pastebin.ca08:19
bretzelusing synaptic to get xine stuff, libs, I 've got al lthat I need for dvd play and more08:19
antrixhelio7: 'ps cax | grep -i firefox'08:19
PolmenHey, could someone help me with my network connection in Ubuntu?`I can't get it to stay enabled. I want to connect to the internet in ubuntu through another computer.08:19
scorpixbretzel: im downloading it now08:19
bretzel:-)08:19
helio7antrix:  7551 ?        Zs     6:36 firefox-bin <defunct>08:19
antrixthen 'kill -9 7551' doesn't work ?08:20
djpscorpix: totem works fine for playback of dvd, just gave it a whirl here...08:20
=== tasuki [~tasuki@r2ai7.chello.upc.cz] has joined #ubuntu
=== tasuki [~tasuki@r2ai7.chello.upc.cz] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
JDahlhelio7, cant you do "killall firefox"?08:20
bretzelOk, I hope that will owrk for you too .. tho :-) shouldn't  be problems... and if dvd play is a bit lagging, do "sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hd[x] "08:21
scorpixdjp:  i have totem-xine installed but it wont play it08:21
scorpixhttp://pastebin.ca/6910 this is the output for mplayer dvd://108:21
helio7antrix: apparently not08:21
bretzeltotem-xine: I dunno why, for me it is tottally scrap - it can't play nothing!!! I mean it does but as if the cpu runs at 1 hz ... I use directly xine, or gxine08:22
=== _miracoolix_ [~micha@pD9EB0D44.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #ubuntu []
antrixscorpix: i don't see any errors in that log output :)08:22
plex0rmake sure netbios is enabled on the router polmon08:22
plex0rsubnets and ips are right08:23
plex0rright permissions08:23
djpscorpix: have you installed libdvdcss2?08:23
scorpixdjp: yes08:23
antrixtotem-xine is pretty fine for me.. though totem-gstreamer was something totally unspeakable ;)08:23
=== FiNeX [~finex@host247-190.pool62211.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu
antrixbtw, anyone know why dma isn't set by default for my dvd drive?08:24
scorpixi use totem-xine only for .rm audio/video08:24
FiNeXhi08:24
djpscorpix: what happens when you try to play the DVD?08:24
ernstpif I want to contribute a patch to ubunut, or a debian dist... how should I do?08:24
=== helio7 [~michael@wbar21.lax1-4.26.216.34.lax1.dsl-verizon.net] has left #ubuntu []
ernstpI've apt-get source pkg, and edited the source08:25
scorpixdjp: when i use gmpalyer it hang for few seconds then dont play it :S08:25
antrixernstp: ubuntu has a bugzilla - i guess u could add a patch there08:25
FiNeXi've found a problem in ubuntu... where can I report it?08:25
antrixFiNeX: ubuntu has a bugzilla :-)08:25
FiNeXantrix: wow... thx :-)08:25
siggletFiNeX: what problem?08:26
ernstpantrix, I was thinking about if there's good dpkg tools to do stuff after I've edited code08:26
GNAMShall I install warty or hoary pre6?08:26
FiNeXit's related to the gnome burning cd08:26
scorpixwhat the extension that i should use with xine for the DVD?08:26
antrixernstp: sorry, can't help u there. not much of a hacker - just a happy user :-)08:27
dhenwhere can i download updates for warty?08:27
JDahldhen, there are only security updates for warty.. (no FF1.0, et cetera)08:28
=== tck [~tck@213-202-151-211.bas503.dsl.esat.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
antrixscorpix: 'xine dvd:/1' or something08:28
FiNeXif you try to burn a cd and you choose "maximum speed", the software doesn't check the maximum speed of the media and it try to write to the max speed of the cdburner. so if the media doesn't support it you have an error08:28
bretzelI dunno if that link works and is worth it but I 've put a screenshot to prove xine working: https://tuxweb.homelinux.net/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core:ShowItem&g2_itemId=30&g2_imageViewsIndex=1 -- please don't mess with the site :-)08:28
scorpixwow08:28
dhenJDahl, where can i download it?08:28
scorpixxine play it for a second then stop :)08:28
JDahldhen, it should be setup already in your sources.list file... check archives im synaptic08:29
=== JDahl [~qwerty@ca-stmnca-cuda4-gen2u1-63.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
=== Fr33man [Quelly@dsl-084-056-233-204.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu
djpscorpix: try using totem or better still xine. if you want to use mplayer use the installation guide here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=9850.08:30
Fr33manhi, i've got a problem with internet configuration08:30
antrixFiNeX: Interesting.. I've never thought abt checking for speed that the media can support.08:31
antrixFinex: is it even possible? Do other burning software chk for that?08:31
Fr33manis there any tutorial for getting internet started08:31
djpis there anybody here who knows whether spamd needs to be enabled to use spamassassin with evolution?08:31
FiNeXantrix: yes08:31
FiNeXantrix: k3b do that08:31
Fr33mancan somebody help me? me is noob, please query08:32
scorpixdjp:  i'll install ogle if it doesnt work i'll do the HOWTO, th.x08:32
neighborleeisnt universe a direct mirror of debian unstable?>.just wondering because scummVM version if one behind in apt yet on debians site its up to current ?..if not whom does one contact to get latest release of a given app in ?08:32
=== SiliconViper [~siliconvi@d205-250-111-241.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu
FiNeXantrix: and it's based on the cdrtools package as gnomeburning frontend... I think08:32
antrixneighborlee: ubuntu's universe is periodically synced with debian's08:32
neighborleeah ok08:33
=== DXT is now known as DXT^away
FiNeXnow I'm looking for the bugzilla on the ubuntu website...08:33
=== kwame [~kwame@201.128.12.250] has joined #ubuntu
antrixFiNeX: sounds like a valid bugzilla report to me08:33
=== cwillu [~cwillu@Ottawa-HSE-ppp4122314.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu
FiNeXantrix: sorry... what do you mean (I don't know english very well -_- )08:34
antrixFr33man: what kind of internet connection do u want to configure?08:34
=== gdark1 [~gdark1@cpc1-pmth3-3-0-cust35.cos2.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu
antrixFiNeX: I meant you should definitely file a report in bugzilla :-)08:35
MyrttiI just have to love this. I think OpenOffice is great. It doesn't do anything I don't want it to do, and does exactly what I want it to. Unlike Word.08:35
MyrttiOh why haven't I switched to Linux earlier08:35
Myrttioh why?!?!08:35
cwilluso, any ideas why ubuntu would lock up in the initial install screens?08:35
FiNeXyes... I'm creating an account :)08:36
Fr33manantrix: pppoe via ethernet but dunno how does it work08:36
bretzelMyrtti::-P08:36
antrixOOo: Has anyone tried OOo2 ? I've seen some packages seeded in Hoary - haven't tried yet08:36
=== Fleebailey33 [~andy@c-67-163-138-215.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
FiNeXantrix: ... I want to try... maybe later I'll download it :)08:36
antrixFr33man: unfortunately ubuntu doesn't have a gui config for pppoe08:37
bretzelantrix: I do, and seems to work well, but I've not tested that much to say it is totally working08:37
Myrttiit's breathtaking experience to realize something like this. The last time I've been stunned like this was when I heard about ... no wait, this is a channel full of men... :->08:37
cwilluanyone able to give me a hand getting the installer working?08:37
=== _miracoolix_ [~micha@pD9EB0D44.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu
Fr33manantrix: hum.. what to do now? so i can't use internet?08:38
antrixFr33man: there's a console tool in debian to do it. can't recall name08:38
antrixFr33man: pppoeconf08:39
=== DeFi[gsr-pro] [~exiled@ip68-6-40-245.sb.sd.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== magnon [~magnon@cD908888B.sdsl.catch.no] has joined #ubuntu
antrixbretzel: the only thing i care abt in OOo2 is user interface since features wise i don't need much. does it look any better or is it still boring? :-)08:40
=== Krj [oyparna@85.97.196.185] has joined #ubuntu
cwilluneat... maybe it was just the printed cd that was junk...08:40
bretzelFr33man: me too I can't tell why your pppoe isn't working because I installed Warty on a friend's computer and he has to use pppoe, but Warty installation setup all and I had nothing to setup: excepted the ppp auth...08:40
cwilluhmm08:41
cwilluor not\08:41
=== Polmen is now known as Polmen-
bretzelantrix: oOo2 It is not really dff. than 1.1.x, seems fast... it is all I can say because I didn't play that much with it since I have it ... sorry08:42
antrixFr33man: did u try running 'sudo pppoeconf' from a console?08:42
Fr33manno08:42
Fr33manbut thanks i will try08:42
antrixcwillu: what's going wrong?08:43
cwillumight have found the problem...08:43
=== quazion_ [~quazion@bsm-c-5628.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu
neighborleeshould I be exporting varibles ( for example: export DELTA_INC="$DELTA_ROOT/inc;$DELTA_ROOT/ext/inc" ) somewhere other than /etc/profile ???08:43
cwilluI got in 10 cds last week08:43
cwillujust trying to move my laptop over to it (I've been testing on my desktop, and am convinced)08:43
=== BROKEN_LADDER [~BROKEN@h-69-3-236-93.snfccasy.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #UBUNTU
cwillubut the install keeps dieing moments in08:43
cwilluhowever, it looks like most of my cd's have hairline cracks in them :(08:44
=== SiliconViper [~siliconvi@d205-250-111-241.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu
cwillujust found a second one (I gave away the one that I installed from originally on my desktop)08:44
cwilluwithout a crack08:44
cwilluseems to be working now :)08:45
antrixcwillu: if ur laptop is not a work machine - maybe u should get a hoary cd and install. good fun to play with :)08:45
=== calamari [~calamari@dialup-4.240.242.208.Dial1.Phoenix1.Level3.net] has joined #ubuntu
cwilluit is... although I have no issues with playing around with it08:46
=== virtuald [danielh@tsukasa.networksolutions.se] has joined #ubuntu
cwilluI think I've already upgraded my test machine to hoary via apt-get08:46
apokryphosyou think?08:46
cwilluI think08:47
cwilluI might have just done a evil cross of the two, plus other random stuff08:47
=== mirak [~mirak@AAubervilliers-152-1-18-241.w83-114.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu
=== tck [~tck@213-202-151-211.bas503.dsl.esat.net] has joined #ubuntu
antrixa bunch of thinkers here :-)08:47
cwilluyou have no idea :p08:47
knucksso realplayer works on my linux..but i cant get ti work within firefox08:48
=== sproingie [icechat5@64-121-15-14.c3-0.sfrn-ubr8.sfrn.ca.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ubuntu
cwilluI'm not supposed to have three menus across the bottom, am I?08:49
cwillu(desktop)08:49
antrixcwillu: don't understand. 3 menus?08:49
sproingielooking at installing ubuntu for first time, had some questions...08:49
cwilluapplications, places and system08:49
=== _case is now known as xcasex
cwillui.e., the results of my hybrid upgrade08:50
apokryphossproingie: Fire away08:50
antrixcwillu: that's hoary then08:50
cwilluokay, this is good08:50
antrixcwillu: although they are on top for me08:50
FiNeXi've another question related to the "hibernation" of the system. Have I to modify the bootloader for resuming the system *after* the hibernation ?08:50
cwilluI had a beatrix install that did that;  actually this explains a lot08:50
cwilluheh08:50
sproingiehow much does ubuntu track debian?  is it like a knoppix thing, or can one update core debs?08:50
cwilluI don't like top menus;  I forgot I changed it08:50
sproingiei got burned with knoppix :(08:50
apokryphoscwillu: you can always find out your distro by various different commands/files... cat /etc/issue is probably the easiest.08:50
=== NetwrkMonkey [~Monkey@netwrkmonkey.user] has joined #ubuntu
antrixFiNeX: for hibernation, boot loader doesn't have to be modified. Just edit grub to get the resume=/dev/hdax part in08:52
cwilluokay... everything still worked so I wasn't worried (with good reason apparently), but still good to know08:52
knuckshow would i go about deleting an ntfs partition and making it a linux one?08:52
ernstpknucks, apt-get install gparted08:52
cwilluyou don't want to dual boot?08:52
knucksno08:52
knucksim on solely linux08:52
knucksbut my old ntfs partiton has all the mp3s08:52
knucksso im transfering them over right now08:52
cwillulol08:52
cwilluthat was my morning :)08:52
FiNeXantrix: thanks :)08:52
knucksand then i want to change the ntfs one into linux and throw the mp3s back on it08:53
sproingiei guess core debs will always have different deps, but looks there's a maintenance path.  that's where knoppix burned me08:53
sproingieguess i shouldnt worry about it08:53
=== Skwid_ [Skwid@stlaurent-1-82-228-247-28.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu
antrixFiNex: no probs. hopefully hibernate works for you. my thinkpad just dies on hibernate08:53
=== jesus_ [~jesus@165.127-200-80.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu
Levanderanybody know how i change my fqdn, as returned by 'hostname -fqdn'?08:53
sproingieanyone know if the installer will work with a nforce 3 mobo (i.e. the network) on amd64?08:53
=== Felesh [~felesh@16.Red-83-34-63.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu
Feleshhi08:54
cwilluis this a common issue, with the cracked cd's through the mail?08:54
antrixcwillu: mine turned out ok08:54
sproingiealioth debian amd64 installer detects the nforce ethernet, but no packets go through it08:54
knucksyay for the next 4000files08:54
cwilluI ordered 10, 7 of them turned out to be cracked (got lucky on my first install)08:54
Feleshubuntu hoary is usable? i mean... hoary is unstable like SID or like EXPERIMENTAL ?08:54
sproingiehoping i dont get the same prob w/ ubuntu :-/08:54
=== Cturtle [~Cturtle__@a213-84-50-38.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu
antrixsproingie: i kind of remember reading that nforce needs binary ethernet drivers from nvidia08:55
GNAMsame question of Felesh08:55
sproingieantrix: that presents a sort of chicken and egg problem, no?08:55
FiNeXantrix: if the system wasn't hibernated, the "resume=/dev/hdaX" is ok?08:55
bretzelantrix: ...and how to get hibernation to be an option in GDM/Gnome ?08:55
=== WindowsUninstall [~WindowsUn@host93-124.pool8252.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu
andrewskican anyone tell me (or point me to docs that will tell me) how to set up trusted repositories so synaptic won't always complain about authentication?08:56
cwilluinstalled the authentication module did we?  :p08:56
antrixFinEx: hdaX should be your swap partition08:56
antrixFiNeX: and u can leave that in ur kernel boot params in grub's config file. if system didn't hibernate - then it'll boot up normally, otherwise resume08:57
=== arthurgeek [~warty@201-0-97-25.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #ubuntu
FiNeXantrix: ok... thanks... :)08:57
antrixbretzel: chk /etc/default/acpi-support08:57
bretzelantrix: okay ...08:57
antrixFiNeX, bretzel: http://www.ubuntulinux.com/wiki/HoaryPM08:58
andrewskicwillu: is that something i can uninstall?08:58
=== Cturtle [~Cturtle__@a213-84-50-38.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu
=== Fr33man [~christian@dsl-084-056-233-156.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu
cwilluI think so... can't remember the package off hand, and I didn't think it was installed by default08:58
=== arthurgeek [~warty@201-0-97-25.dsl.telesp.net.br] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
andrewskicwillu: well, i may have inadvertantly installed it.08:58
cwilluI installed it by accident on another installation and was cursing myself :)08:58
FiNeXantrix: good :)08:58
Fr33manhi antrix! just want to say thanks. it works fine. now i'm running under ubuntu first time :)08:59
=== Ohmer [~Homer@ip216-239-89-152.vif.net] has joined #ubuntu
antrixFr33man: cool :-)08:59
antrixandrewski: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptAuthenticationInstructionsForHoary09:00
=== BROKEN_LADDER [~BROKEN@h-69-3-236-93.snfccasy.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #UBUNTU
LordCHow do you install a .deb file that you've downloaded? :/09:00
LordCIm new to Ubuntu :)09:00
=== sls [~stephans@mail.farorbit.com] has joined #ubuntu
antrixcwillu: authentication hasn't given me any problems. are u sure you are on pure hoary system? no residues from warty! :)09:00
slsll09:00
cwillu GnuPG09:00
Feleshubuntu hoary is usable? i mean... hoary is unstable like SID or like EXPERIMENTAL ?09:00
cwillumaybe09:00
cwilluI did it under a different distro09:01
slsanyone a tftp boot guru?09:01
=== Skwid_ [Skwid@stlaurent-1-82-228-247-28.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu
antrixsls: not me!09:01
marcin_anthi people09:01
marcin_antI got a problem with samba and printing09:01
antrixFelesh: it is usable. but there are lots of new packages updated everyday09:01
antrixFelesh: if it is a work machine - don't run hoary09:02
marcin_antdoes someone know how should I set samba to enable anonymous printing from xp clients?09:02
Feleshit is a home machine09:02
cwilluignore that gnupg remark before...09:02
=== johane__ [~johan@h99n1c1o255.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu
andrewskiantrix: thanks.09:02
andrewskicwillu: quoting that link: "it's now transparent to authenticate..." so i don't think there's a package.09:02
wezzerplease somebody answer, is it good idea to upgrade ati-drivers via synaptic?09:03
=== krix [~krics@fibhost-29-146.fibernet.bacs-net.hu] has joined #ubuntu
wezzerwill it destroy my config09:03
wezzerdo I have to rerun dpkg --reconfigure-x-server09:04
wezzerany other tips?09:04
=== _miracoolix_ [~micha@pD9EB0D44.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #ubuntu []
antrixLordC: 'sudo dpkg -i mypackage.deb'09:04
spaceyyou can always backup your config files wezzer09:05
bretzelantrix: thank you for the link --- Funny: I realize that chances are that I have NO swap partitions!!!!! houahahahah! I was too in a hury when I installed array-5!!09:05
wezzerspacey: yes, that's true09:05
wezzerthanks for the tip :^)09:05
=== jkd [~jkd@pool-162-84-156-141.ny5030.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu
cwilluokay... everything's running, or at least installing :p09:06
antrixwezzer: there are some tips in the /etc/x11/xorg.conf file too09:06
=== rattboi [~rattboi@c-24-22-178-137.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
rattboiman09:06
cwillunext up:  fun with citrix and wine09:06
rattboiI'm really having troubles with the fglrx drivers :(09:06
=== oneifreak [~michael@S0106000f66911642.lb.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu
jkdHello, if I get the latest Ubuntu ARray , can I UPGRADE to the latest next version without reinstalling?09:06
wezzerok09:06
rattboijkd, yeah09:07
wezzerI'll look around09:07
=== molson [~molson@207.160.116.254] has joined #ubuntu
antrixbretzel: linux without swap partition? I thought only hardcore geeks can get the kernel to run without swap !09:07
rattboifglrx is loaded, but everything is drawn slowly09:07
cwilluif you have enough memory (i.e more than a few megs I think) it could work fine.... kinda sorta09:08
jkdrattboi: with dist-upgrade?09:08
cwilludone it by accident myself :)09:09
antrixcwillu: u have to modify swappiness right?09:09
jkdrattboi: so have you tried from array 1 to array 2 , etc?09:09
molsonNetwork card not supported during pre-installation.  Is it possible that this module will load after Ubuntu is fully installed?09:10
=== Slaggy [~Slaggy@ip68-110-22-134.om.om.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu
antrixjkd: once u install from array, u r on hoary. then u'll get updated packages every day.09:11
cwillunever did anything except forget to set a swap partition... it wasn't ubuntu though, it was beatrix09:11
jkdthanks09:11
jkdantrix: very nice of you09:11
=== quazion__ [~quazion@bsm-c-5628.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu
antrixjkd, no probs09:11
=== joh_ [~joh@grn-dhcp215.studby.uio.no] has joined #ubuntu
jkdso why no grub splash on ubuntu =\09:12
=== calc_ is now known as calc
=== larsson_ [~larsson@h164n3c1o285.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu
antrixjkd: ubuntu is the most ancient looking distro while installing/booting but the most modern when running :-)09:13
antrixjkd: of course - kubuntu will be more modern looking than ubuntu ;-)09:13
jkdlol09:13
larsson_I edited my fstab s that my windows-partition was mounted. It is mounted all right, but only root have access to it. What option in fstab mounts it so that everyone can view the content? Absolutely NOT write.09:13
Tomcat_You can get good themes that make it good looking in Gnome also :)09:14
=== ashgan [~ashgan@bondy-5-82-225-34-67.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu
LinuxJoneslarsson_, www.ubuntuguide.org09:14
LinuxJonesTomcat_, I like blue-curve the redhat/fedora default09:14
antrixlarsson_: read only for everyone including root?09:15
Tomcat_I got... no idea, it looks OSX-ish :)09:15
larsson_the "ro" option is there.09:15
LinuxJonesTomcat_, let me find you a screenshot09:15
=== sisq0 [~sisq0@105.Red-81-32-147.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu
larsson_ubuntuguide says nothing about my problem actually.09:15
=== StoffBox-Steve [~steve@pD95F350D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu
LinuxJonesTomcat_, >> http://www.jfedor.org/shots/gnome2.png09:16
antrix/dev/hda1       /media/c        ntfs    ro,user,gid=100,umask=022      0       009:16
antrixoops09:16
Tomcat_LinuxJones: http://content.no-ip.org/Stuff/Screenshot.png (slow)09:16
=== bretzel [~felix@modemcable128.237-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu
=== albin [~albin@81-223-242-177.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #ubuntu
antrixlarsson: '/dev/hda1       /media/c        ntfs    ro,user,gid=100,umask=022      0       0'09:16
=== Slaggy [~Slaggy@ip68-110-22-134.om.om.cox.net] has left #ubuntu []
larsson_I'll try it.09:16
Tomcat_Nice. :o09:16
=== bretzel [~felix@modemcable128.237-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has left #ubuntu []
sisq0hello, I'm a newbie user of ubuntu distribution, and I'm trying to add a new repositor server in Synaptic Package Manager, but i can't . Could anybody help me?09:17
LinuxJonesTomcat_, that server hosted on a 14.4 modem or what :D09:17
apokryphosTomcat_: for future reference, if you want to know, it's *very* easy to convert image filetypes with ImageMagick. One command.09:17
antrixlarsson: 100 is the 'users' group to which I've added the default user and others09:17
Tomcat_Linux: No, 128 kbit upstream used for a CD image upload to a friend + BitTorrent :)09:17
sisq0hello?09:18
Tomcat_apokryphos: I'll have a look.09:18
=== elmaya [elmaya@201.133.215.125] has joined #ubuntu
=== Nekohayo [~chatzilla@ip216-239-74-191.vif.net] has joined #ubuntu
Tomcat_apokryphos: I don't have imagemagick installed it seems. :)09:18
apokryphosTomcat_: you can install it from the repositories. Then, a simple command like, "convert -quality 75 picture.png picture.jpg" and it'll be very small.09:18
NekohayoI'm on hoary trying to update the package "ubuntu-artwork" but I can't... has anyone experienced this?09:19
apokryphosTomcat_: not quite sure if it comes by default on Ubuntu. I guess you could try to see if you've got the convert command09:19
=== Potn [~potnhbug@ip136-167.bacs-net.hu] has joined #ubuntu
Tomcat_apokryphos: Yeah, I know it... but when I want to get out a pic in a few seconds, I don't install additional software. It's not like I do screenshots every day. :)09:19
sisq0could anybody give me an ftp repositor to upgrade my ubuntu?09:19
Tomcat_apokryphos: libmagick comes by default, imagemagick is available.09:19
=== Sparhawk_ [~sparhawk@c-24-14-121-93.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
apokryphosTomcat_: Well, sure. You obviously don't have to keep installing. And yes, it would perhaps not be worth it if you were only ever using one image; hence the "for future reference".09:20
antrixsisq0: everything should be configured by default. just run 'synaptic package manager' and choose 'mark all upgrade'09:20
=== albin [~albin@81-223-242-177.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has left #ubuntu []
=== neofeed [~moritz@pD9575F11.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu
Tomcat_apokryphos: Yeah. Thanks. :] 09:20
=== YankDownUnder [~stephen@d220-237-210-77.dsl.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
=== fleebailey66 [~andy@c-67-163-138-215.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
sisq0thanks antrix09:22
StoffBox-Stevesisq0, apt-get update && dist-upgrade09:22
sisq0I prefer to do it via Synaptic,I'm a newbie09:22
=== rcliii [~rcliii@c-24-10-179-112.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== Dreamer3_ [~unknown@sdn-ap-009tnnashP0027.dialsprint.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== devil [~devil@p50851BA3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu
antrixsisq0 asked the third upgrade related question since I joined this channel today. It's good that Hoary has an update manaer running by default in the systray09:25
=== elmaya [~elmaya@201.133.215.125] has joined #ubuntu
=== devil is now known as crazy
crazyhrrr09:25
=== crazy is now known as crazytoon
StoffBox-Steveoh when you only what a update .. the apt-get is the fastest and best ways :D Synaptiv is fine to look for new tools :D09:26
=== eleazar_ [~eleazar@200.44.246.14] has joined #ubuntu
eleazar_hi, can anyone tell me whats the command for reconfigure the X?09:28
StoffBox-Stevesudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg when you use xorg09:28
StoffBox-Steveelse xserver-xfree8609:28
=== henla464 [~henla464@f109.ryd.student.liu.se] has joined #ubuntu
=== vince_ [~vince@80-219-106-51.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #ubuntu
knuckshow do i get everything in a certain folder (and subfolders and files) to be chmod 777?09:30
henla464does anyone know how to decrease the size of the sound buffer?09:30
wezzerchmod -r 777 foo/09:30
=== klaym [~isom@a81-197-245-214.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu
apokryphosknucks: always check the man page first ;-)09:30
henla464 I get choppy sound in Skype and they suggested to change the size of the buffer on Skype forum. But they didnt know how to change this in Gnome.09:31
knuckschmod -r 777 doesnt work?09:31
apokryphosknucks: check the man page. -R, I think.09:31
klaymI'm trying to unrar a .rar file via Nautilus (x-rar), but I get this: /bin/sh: line 1: unrar: command not found. anyone know what's wrong?09:32
bob_migrating from windows to ubuntu, what files do I have to copy for mozilla-thunderbird?09:32
apokryphosbob_: why copy any files? Bookmarks, do you mean?09:32
=== fleebailey66 [~andy@c-67-163-138-215.client.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
knucksso no one knows off hand how to do it?09:33
apokryphosknucks: Geez. I take it you're not reading at all.09:33
bob_apokryphos, mail files09:33
knucksif i knew where the man pages were, id read09:34
knucksim entirely new to this09:34
knucksbeen on it for 10hrs at the most09:34
apokryphosknucks: man <command>09:34
apokryphosbob_: heh. For some reason I thought you said firefox, sorry. Don't know how to do that; sorry.09:34
Tomcat_klaym: You're quite obviously missing the unrar program...09:35
antrixi am out. good night folks!09:35
apokryphosknucks: man[ual]  pages are *very* useful. They will tell you the usage of a command and the possible options for it etc.09:35
auraxanyone here uses intel mobo D915GAV ? on linux?09:35
knucksok -R is recursive09:36
apokryphosThere you go. Just as I presumed. :P09:36
knucksso what do i type in if i want to change Music and im currently in /home/knucks and music is in /home/knucks/Music09:36
apokryphoscd Music09:36
knucksk..09:37
klaymTomcat_: Thanks, I actually read from the forums that I should get unrar-nonfree09:37
apokryphosknucks: a pretty good guide to get you started: http://www.icon.co.za/~psheer/book/index.html.gz09:37
=== elmaya [~elmaya@201.133.215.125] has joined #ubuntu
apokryphosknucks: don't be overwhelmed by all the stuf. Most of it is just used as a reference, and many won't be applicable to you. Just the first few chapters will come in handy.09:38
knucksim reading the chmod one right now then09:38
GammaRayI notice that I don't have a /boot/grub/grub.conf file09:38
=== NetwrkMonkey [~Monkey@netwrkmonkey.user] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
=== scoon [~scoon@dsl092-234-243.phl1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu
apokryphosknucks: it's worth reading man man for more info, when you have time. To exit it, hit q.09:39
knucksk09:40
delltonydang i found a place to change the mouse cursors on the forums before and i changed it to like ptux or something like that wish i could find that page again so i can could my cursors09:40
knucksok so i must use the letters for read,write,mod stuff..09:40
BiteMeBillGammaRay: You can edit the menu.lst09:40
apokryphosknucks: not sure what you're referring to/mean here.09:41
knucksknucks@knucks:~/Music $ chmod -R 077709:41
knuckschmod: too few arguments09:41
henla464Is someone here using Skype on Ubuntu? Is sound good?09:41
=== Zugot [~bryan@pcp0010860530pcs.longhl01.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== wdh [~KlaasVaag@82-197-206-56.dsl.cambrium.nl] has joined #ubuntu
apokryphosknucks: That means your usage of it isn't complete or is incorrect.09:41
knucksyeah i figured09:41
knucksthe example they have is "myfile"09:42
=== tck [~tck@213-202-151-211.bas503.dsl.esat.net] has joined #ubuntu
knucksbut i want to edit the whole directory09:42
tckheres a quick question09:42
apokryphosknucks: check the usage on the man page... chmod [OPTION] ... MODE[,MODE] ... FILE...09:42
=== AdvancedWeb [~AdvancedW@83.72.163.221.ip.tele2adsl.dk] has joined #ubuntu
tcki haven't created a root user etc.., i.e. password etc.09:42
tcki have installed firestarter09:42
=== matteo_ [~matteo@apt310.org] has joined #ubuntu
apokryphosknucks: since your'e already in the directory, you can just use "." as that represents the current directory that you are in.09:42
tckand to run it from the X drop down list, it demands the 'root' password09:42
knucksah ok09:42
tckanyway around this09:42
knucksi think i got it tho..09:42
knuckschmod -R 0777 Music09:43
apokryphosknucks: so... chmod -R 777 .09:43
GammaRayBiteMeBill: I'm pretty new to grub. I'm reading the docs and I'm wondering what relationship the two files have. Especially if one does not exist.09:43
knucksthanks for the help man. ill make sure to use man pages09:43
apokryphosknucks: they come in handy :P. No problem.09:43
=== tombhadAC [~tombhad@p54884582.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu
knuckswhat program do i get if i want to make partitions and stuff?09:44
delltonyaww i found it nevermind09:44
knucksgpart something?09:44
matteo_Hi I'm installing Warty and the xserver-xfree86 it fetched after the reboot seems de hang... I can do Ctrl+C to get control, but it leavec the package unconfigured...09:44
tckknucks, fdisk09:44
knuckssomeone told me gparter or something09:44
matteo_has anyone had the same problem, or is it just that this configuration is *very* long ?09:44
knucksi want to take my ntfs partition, delete it, and make it a linux one09:44
apokryphosknucks: there's several partition managers. qparted is one, I think. Never used it. qtparted is another.09:45
zenroxgparted09:45
knuckswhats a really good one i should get?09:45
zenroxis the gnome eq..09:45
zenroxqtparted for kde09:45
apokryphosknucks: whoops, yup, first part should have been gparted, as zenrox notes.09:45
knucksill apt-get gparted then09:45
zenroxyep09:45
tckits not in the apt sources09:46
apokryphoszenrox: well, for qt :P. It's not technically kde.09:46
zenroxapt-get install gparted09:46
=== Loiosh [loiosh@c-24-1-68-184.client.comcast.net] has joined #Ubuntu
=== mrproper [~kbreit@c-24-14-43-153.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
zenroxapokryphos, but thats what it was programed from09:46
mrproperIs there a way to do a network install of Ubuntu from a floppy?09:46
apokryphoszenrox: from kde? Erm, nope... just qt as far as I know.09:46
zenroxmrproper,  yes look on the wiki09:46
zenroxapokryphos, but kde is programed in qt09:47
=== housetier [~housetier@dsl-084-056-135-229.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu
apokryphoszenrox: it sure is. Doesn't mean that all qt programs are kde.09:47
knucksE: Couldn't find package gparted09:47
zenroxknucks,  have you enabled all the respotires09:48
=== jeff_ [~jeff@adsl-0-112-139.btr.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu
apokryphoszenrox: that would be like saying that, well, oranges are apples because they're both fruits. :P09:48
knuckszenrox: yeah09:48
zenroxknucks, warty or hoary09:48
jeff_is there a trojan scanner or something for ubuntu09:48
zenrox??09:48
knuckszenrox: i dont know..09:48
=== mrproper [~kbreit@c-24-14-43-153.client.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu []
knucksthats not the first time someones asked me09:48
zenroxjeff_,  no why run one you dont need it09:48
apokryphosknucks: what does cat /etc/issue give?09:48
=== Fr33man [~christian@dsl-084-056-233-156.arcor-ip.net] has left #ubuntu ["Verlassend"]
BiteMeBillI'09:49
knucksahh09:49
knucksWarty09:49
BiteMeBillm not even finding it either.09:49
LoioshThere is a rootkit scanner, but I don't believe it's been prepared for Ubuntu09:49
zenroxwarty = stable the one on cd hoary = develment and its unstable09:49
knucksyeh i got it off the cd09:49
jeff_because i think i may have downloaded a rootkit09:49
knucksits warty09:49
=== tritium [~rimbert@12-202-90-180.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu
jeff_i downloaed limewire pro from a newsgroup09:50
zenroxknucks,  you'll probly have to get qtparted09:50
zenroxgparted is in hoary09:50
knucksok09:50
LoioshI've got a funky question. Is there a way to disable the SCSI probe when the new array-6 live CD boots? It keeps dying when it touches my IOMEGA scsi card (advansys)09:50
=== mmoyer [~matt@12.5.226.9] has joined #ubuntu
LoioshAnd noscsi / scsi=no doesn't work. It still probes while loading the kernel (sad)09:50
=== Loiosh looks sad, rather.
=== punkrockguy318 [~lukas@pcp02403054pcs.brdgtn01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
knucksgot qtparted09:52
=== mmoyer [~matt@12.5.226.9] has left #ubuntu []
knucksthanks09:52
=== apokryphos is now known as apokro
punkrockguy318When I play an audio CD in my CD drive, i get really choppy playback.  Also, I'm only getting ~.5x ripping speed.  What could be the problem?09:52
zenroxknucks,  n/p09:52
=== apokro is now known as apokryphos
=== Kly [dd@81.213.231.68] has joined #ubuntu
=== joskulj [~jochen@p3EE3A64C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu
andrewskipunkrockguy318: hdparm09:57
punkrockguy318andrewski, what do I do with hdparm?09:58
=== netmonk [~netmonk@nat-18.c0msys.net] has joined #ubuntu
andrewskipunkrockguy318: read the manpage, apply settings at whim (or suitable for your hardware)09:58
andrewskipunkrockguy318: i really don't know its ins and outs...09:59
punkrockguy318okay09:59
punkrockguy318i'll give it a try09:59
punkrockguy318are you confident that it will help?09:59
=== bannana_feller [~bob@c-67-184-110-101.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
bannana_fellerdoes anyone else have problems with getting dcgui-qt to work correctly?09:59
=== Ivy6Quaff [~Sir@c906a0a6.virtua.com.br] has joined #ubuntu
=== fusibou [~dave@CPE00045ae9242e-CM014480119872.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== MyKq3 [~Kipod@80.178.200.192.adsl.012.net.il] has joined #ubuntu
=== Lemonzest [~Lemonzest@cpc1-nott4-3-0-cust27.nott.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu
fusibouI tried array 6 LiveCD for kicks on my Thinkpad T23 (I'm a debian user). Very nice. Couldn't see any gui way to access my hard drive partitions though. Also suspend didn't work. Just some quick feedback.10:02
=== MyKq3 [~Kipod@80.178.200.192.adsl.012.net.il] has joined #ubuntu
=== MyKq3 [~Kipod@80.178.200.192.adsl.012.net.il] has joined #ubuntu
Quest-Masterfusibou: There is gparted or QtParted10:02
LoioshYou mean access them for reading?10:02
fusibouQuest-Master i just mean to mount them10:02
zenroxLoiosh,  no10:02
fusibouthe cdrom showed up on the desktop10:02
=== MyKq3 [~Kipod@80.178.200.192.adsl.012.net.il] has joined #ubuntu
zenroxLoiosh,  jsut to repartion it10:03
Quest-Masterfusibou: It is really easy to mount partitions through the command-line. :\10:03
=== spades [~Lenny@ool-18b93cb9.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu
fusibouQuest-Master as a debian user i know that :-)10:03
LoioshLoL10:04
LoioshJust pointing out a lack in the installer10:04
Quest-Masterfusibou: I don't understand why a GUI frontend is needed then if you know how to10:04
MyKq3hi !! we have a  Israeli Ubuntu site !10:04
LoioshThe Warty LIVE cd would mount the HD partition, if I remember correctly (I may be lying)10:04
=== Madeye [~Jad@213.186.188.112] has joined #Ubuntu
LoioshRight now I'm trying to dead with array 6 hating my computer =)10:05
LoioshIt completely crashes when the kernel is starting.10:05
fusibouQuest-Master hey, jdub keeps barking about "just works" which i thought was supposed to be the ubuntu mantra.10:05
Loioshdeal10:05
Loioshdead = deal, rather10:05
=== Quest-Master is dist-upgrading to Hoary at the moment
=== Loiosh cannot even install it, hehe.
=== zenrox <--is allready running hoary thru dit-upgrade
davixin americas army the mouse wont move the screen in the game play, in the menu it is responding well as well as the buttons in the gameplay, they all work good, but the mouse won't do the directional job it suppose to do, any ideas?10:08
jeff_well where is a link for a root kit scanner10:08
jeff_?10:08
=== _miracoolix_ [~icke@pD9EB0D44.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu
=== wdh [~KlaasVaag@82-197-204-94.dsl.cambrium.nl] has joined #ubuntu
_miracoolix_hi10:09
davixwhat is a root kit scanner?10:09
jeff_i want to scan my computer to see if its been hacked10:10
davixoh, i want too :/10:10
knucksso does mplayer have a "controller"10:11
=== fusibou [~dave@CPE00045ae9242e-CM014480119872.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
=== minde911 [~xxx@212.59.13.5] has joined #ubuntu
Quest-MasterController?10:12
knuckslike10:12
knucksone where i can press play, stop, pause10:12
knucksand change the position of a video10:13
jeff_you need to download gmplayer10:13
Quest-MasterErr, yeah10:13
Quest-Mastergmplayer10:13
punkrockguy318where is there a deb for gmplayer?10:13
knucksis that whatd ud recommend?10:13
Quest-MasterThere is an automatic compilation and installation script at http://www.ubuntuforums.org under HOWTOS and FAQS10:13
knucksi want to have something simple to play video files10:13
knucksand then ill use xine for dvds10:13
MadeyeHi, guys, is there any program to make a phone calls, and recieve phone calls through computer connected to my modem?10:13
Quest-Masterpunkrockguy318, knucks: I wouldn't apt-get for MPlayer.. the one in the repos. is broken, so compile10:14
=== Ohmer [~Homer@ip216-239-89-152.vif.net] has joined #ubuntu
knucksi like mplayer actually..but how do i get it to show the GUI?10:14
davixyou cant apt-get mplayer...10:14
davixunless ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html10:15
knucksI already have mplayer10:15
knucksdavix yeh thats the one i got i think10:15
wezzerknucks: have you compiled it by yourself?10:15
knucksbut how do i open the GUI10:15
Quest-Mastergmplayer10:15
davixknucks, try console gmplayer10:15
knucksIm watching a video on it right now10:15
Quest-MasterYou have to install a skin though too, knucks10:15
Quest-MasterDid you do that?10:15
knucksum no10:15
Quest-MasterYeah10:16
knucksim just looking at a plain window w/ video in it10:16
Quest-MasterGo to UbuntuForums10:16
Quest-Masterknucks: Well then.10:16
Quest-Masterknucks: Open a console and type in sudo apt-get install gxine.10:16
Quest-MasterIt's good, easy to install, simple to use.10:16
Quest-MasterOr, you can apt for VLC.10:16
apokryphosQuest-Master: what? You don't have to set a skin. It uses the default.10:16
knucksits different than xine?10:16
apokryphosknucks: it is. I imagine it's some extra gnome interface front-end for mplayer. Might be a different program entirely, but I doubt it.10:17
apokryphosknucks: if plain "mplayer" doesn't turn up the GUI, then gmplayer should as davix says.10:17
knucksunless theres something i gotta press to open a GUI?10:18
knuckslike some key or something10:18
=== Volrath99 [~Volrath99@c-67-184-147-74.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
OrangeSlicecompile mplayer with --enable-gui :p10:18
=== maccorin [~maccorin@adsl-067-034-136-135.sip.mco.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu
apokryphosknucks: Alt + F2 > gmplayer10:19
knucksOrangeSlice: dont know how to do that10:19
apokryphoscompiling, why? It works fine from the repos.10:19
=== alisson [~alisson@201.7.14.42] has joined #ubuntu
OrangeSlicecompiling your own > binaries :p10:19
knucksapokryphos: nothing happens10:19
=== HillTop [~chatzilla@cpe-204-210-35-9.san.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== Echylo [~Echylo@88-90.240.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu
=== vincent [~vincent@bonnefoy-3-82-224-105-22.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu
apokryphosHeh. I'm getting confused here. Cancel my earlier comments on "gnome" etc.10:20
LoioshHewwo, Echylo =)10:20
alissonHello all! Please, I am needing a little newbie help! How can I change the PATH to point to a java bin directory too?10:20
Echylohellow10:20
knucksok i got gxine10:20
apokryphosknucks: one sec, I'm looking for a thread for you. You'll need to install a specific mlayer10:20
knucksi guess that will have to do10:20
Echylocan I say that limewire kinda rocks10:20
Quest-MasterEchylo: Why not? :P10:21
apokryphosEchylo: it sure does :P10:21
Echylobecause everyone is like "emule for president!"10:21
Echylobut I never got that quick so fast speeds10:21
knucksqtparted doesnt want to work for me10:21
=== cocol [~internet@84.119.222.16] has joined #ubuntu
apokryphosEchylo: yup, gnutella network has always been the best for me.10:22
Quest-MasterQtParted is pretty buggy.. I don't like it much.10:22
Echylolovelyt10:22
Echylothat & torrent10:22
Echylorule10:22
knuckswhats a good program for partitions then?10:22
Echylofor the moment10:22
Echylogparted?10:22
knucksim on warty10:22
apokryphosEchylo: yup; and irc10:22
Quest-Masterparted is nice fot the command line, or gparted which I believe has to be compiled.. search for it on Google, knucks10:23
Quest-Master*for10:23
cocolno gparted u can apt10:23
Echyloirc is for new stuff10:23
=== afv-13 [~defective@rkdp-ip-nas-1-p192.telkom-ipnet.co.za] has joined #ubuntu
Echyloand sometimes risk for errors10:23
Echyloif it gets disconnected10:24
apokryphoscocol: even in warty?10:24
=== quazion_ [~quazion@bsm-c-5628.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu
Quest-Mastercocol: I stand corrected then.10:24
afv-13can someone please tell me what software is included on the livecd?10:24
afv-13(the windows stuff)10:24
apokryphosEchylo: irc is for speeedy downloads10:24
cocoli dunno...i am in hoary10:24
Echylotorrent too ;)10:24
Quest-MasterWhile I was upgrading to Hoary10:24
Quest-MasterI got this error10:24
Quest-MasterPreparing to replace mozilla-firefox 0.99+1.0PR.1+revertedto0.9.3-0ubuntu3 (using .../mozilla-firefox_1.0+dfsg.1-6ubuntu1_i386.deb) ...10:24
Quest-Masterrm: cannot remove `/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/defaults/pref': Is a directory10:24
Quest-Masterdpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/mozilla-firefox_1.0+dfsg.1-6ubuntu1_i386.deb (--unpack):10:24
Quest-Master subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 110:24
=== billytwowilly [~chris@S01060040f4acc23c.ed.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu
Quest-MasterIs that bad? :\10:24
knuckshttp://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=11584310:24
apokryphosEchylo: Sure. Never quite reached the consistent speeds with torrents though.10:24
=== draekus [~draekus@pc138.lipno.sdi.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu
knuckswhich one should i get?10:24
EchyloI did ;)10:25
EchyloI reached my max speed here10:25
Echylo400 kb/s10:25
Echyloon torrents10:25
apokryphosEchylo: consistently?10:25
Echylo?10:25
Echyloyes10:25
Echylofrom 3 seconds10:25
Echyloto the eend10:25
apokryphostorrents seem to fluctuate, but more so seem to take quite some time to get up to that speed.10:25
knucksi got this one: libparted1.6-12_1.6.20-0.exp.1_i386.deb10:25
knuckswhat do i do with it now10:25
Echylono10:26
Echylowell10:26
EchyloI down top 10 seeded torrents10:26
apokryphosEchylo: for all your downloads? Just what tracker are you using?10:26
Echylofrom www.filemp3.org10:26
apokryphosEchylo: oh. I've been talking about films here :P10:26
Echyloow :)10:26
Echylowell I only download music10:26
EchyloI hire movies10:26
=== vincent_ [~vincent@c3eea3e5a.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu
apokryphoshassle ;-)10:26
apokryphosirc you can download films in 25 mins10:26
knuckshellpp10:26
apokryphos(well, I can. People with faster speeds -> less time)10:26
knuckswhat do i do with this10:27
knucksibparted1.6-12_1.6.20-0.exp.1_i386.deb10:27
knuckser10:27
Quest-MasterI have a Linksys router and VoIP Vonage Motorola modem, so my torrent speeds aren't as close as they could be (I am on 3mbps broadband too.. what a shame) :(10:27
knuckslibparted1.6-12_1.6.20-0.exp.1_i386.deb10:27
alissonHi all! Please, I am needing a little newbie help! How can I change the PATH to point to a java bin directory too?10:27
Quest-Masteralisson: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/ <-- check out the setting up Java section10:27
=== mchasard [~mchasard@lns-p19-1-idf-82-251-77-8.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== njan [~james@80.68.82.20] has joined #ubuntu
mchasardhi10:28
vincent_hi10:28
alissonQuest-Master, ok, heheheheh!! a Quest-Master!!10:28
Quest-Master:P10:28
mchasardi just want to test kubuntu ... but it doesnt work for me as livecd ...10:28
LoioshAny idea on my advansys live CD issue?10:28
=== WillCooke [~will@host81-157-91-99.range81-157.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu
LoioshThe Array-6 CD just dies after uncompressing the kernel10:29
=== afv-13 [~defective@rkdp-ip-nas-1-p192.telkom-ipnet.co.za] has left #ubuntu ["Pull]
apokryphosmchasard: mention your problem in #kubuntu; to let them know.10:29
mchasardyes its right ...10:29
knucksAnyone?10:29
alissonQuest-Master, sorry for incovenience.....i didn't know that ubuntu site have FAQs..10:29
knucksI found gparted releases10:29
knucksbut i dont know what to do with them10:29
knuckshttp://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=11584310:29
mchasardok ...i will mention ... ok thanks ...10:29
vincent_how do you configure the GRUB?10:29
Quest-Masteralisson: No problem. I hope it helps you. :)10:29
=== mchasard [~mchasard@lns-p19-1-idf-82-251-77-8.adsl.proxad.net] has left #ubuntu []
=== R0bNyc [~jkd@pool-162-84-156-141.ny5030.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu
WillCookeanyone know about ndiswrapper?10:31
alissonQuest-Master, it will! ;)10:31
=== vincent_ is now known as VincentMX
knucksANYONE?10:31
Quest-MasterWillCooke: What do you need?10:31
=== LdcMW [~FiNTW@BSN-250-12-4.dsl.siol.net] has joined #ubuntu
VincentMXknucks wha ts the problem=10:31
knuckshttp://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=11584310:31
knucksgparted releases10:31
knuckswhich one do i download and what do i do with it10:31
WillCookeQuest-Master, I've just installed Warty on the mrs' computer, but it's got a linksys wireless nic in it, which requires ndiswrapper.....10:32
Quest-MasterWillCooke: Is there any other way to conenct to the internet from that computer?10:32
WillCookeQuest-Master, Nope!10:32
VincentMXknucks you have pentium?10:32
WillCookeQuest-Master, Does the kernel source come on the warty install cd?10:32
knucksyes10:32
Quest-MasterWillCooke: Dunno10:32
=== suifur is now known as zbrown
VincentMXthe .deb file10:33
=== Skwid__ [Skwid@stlaurent-1-82-228-247-28.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu
VincentMXif it don't work, try the source10:33
knuckslatest one?10:33
Quest-MasterWillCooke: To sum it up though, you basically need to compile ndiswrapper, get the .inf file for her Linksys Wireless from the install CD, load it through ndis, and it should work10:33
VincentMXyes10:33
knucksok then what?10:33
apokryphosknucks: you'll want to use the dpkg command once you've got it10:33
knucksi downloaded a .deb file10:33
knucksok.10:33
knuckshold10:34
VincentMXif it does not work, download the source and compile it10:34
WillCookeQuest-Master, OK.  1st problem get the kernel source on it, then I'll be back! ;)10:34
Quest-Master:)10:34
=== bascule [~kenny@user-3446.l5.c1.dsl.pol.co.uk] has left #ubuntu []
=== _adw_ [~alexander@230.80-203-59.nextgentel.com] has joined #ubuntu
VincentMXknucks now nupack10:34
VincentMXknucks now unpack10:34
knuckswhat do i add to dpkg?10:34
knuckswhats the whole command10:34
Quest-Masterdpkg -i10:34
VincentMXdon't know10:35
apokryphosknucks: man page :P10:35
VincentMXhow do you configure the GRUB?10:35
=== johane__ is now known as johane
knucksdpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of gparted:10:35
R0bNycwhen are we getting gnome 2.9.22 or 2.1010:35
knucks gparted depends on libglibmm-2.4-1; however:10:36
knucks  Package libglibmm-2.4-1 is not installed.10:36
tckR0bNyc, when its officially released10:36
apokryphosknucks: I'm sure you can infer what you have to do now.10:36
tcki think the hoary preview comes out on the same day as the gnome 2.1010:36
=== bzbb [~john@cpe-66-168-47-103.ma.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu
knucksi tried apt-get install that pacage10:36
knucksbug:10:36
knucksbut*10:36
R0bNyctck, isn't Hoary suppose to be the bleeding edge ubuntu?10:36
apokryphosknucks: do you have a fast connection?10:36
tckit is10:36
bzbbgrmph10:37
knucksYou might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these:10:37
knucksThe following packages have unmet dependencies:10:37
knucks  gparted: Depends: libgtkmm-2.4-1 but it is not going to be installed10:37
knucks           Depends: libparted1.6-12 (>= 1.6.0) but it is not installable10:37
knucks           Depends: libsigc++-2.0-0 (>= 2.0.2) but it is not going to be installed10:37
knucks  libglibmm-2.4-1: Depends: libsigc++-2.0-0 (>= 2.0.2) but it is not going to be installed10:37
knucksE: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).10:37
knucksYeah10:37
Quest-Masterknucks: Run apt-get -f install10:37
apokryphosknucks: please don't flood the channel10:37
tckit cant have the latest gnome unless gnome release it10:37
knuckssorry10:37
bzbbhoary can be fun10:37
=== Loiosh would love to run it.
apokryphosknucks: if you have a fast connection, it's worth upgrading to hoary.10:37
bzbbit can also be really annoying10:37
knucksok did apt-get -f install10:38
knuckslet me try dpkg again10:38
Quest-MasterDoes Project Utopia work perfectly in the current Hoary?10:38
cocolhown i check the version on commandline of gnome?10:38
alissonQuest-Master, sorry for asking again, but I find a topic how to installing java, but the export is used in the bash. Next time that I reboot I will lost the command.10:38
apokryphosbzbb: hoary...annoying? Never! :P10:38
=== MrKeuner [~kudo@195.174.226.7] has joined #ubuntu
bzbbfox example, I just upgraded, and it decided i'm only good fro 1024/76810:38
apokryphosalisson: you can specify it in your ~/.bashrc file.10:39
Quest-Masteralisson: Are you sure? :\ The commands I used on those pages have worked fine for me for months now10:39
=== VincentMX [~vincent@c3eea3e5a.cable.wanadoo.nl] has left #ubuntu ["Bezig]
MrKeunerhi, how is it possible to add a new language at the gdm menu?10:39
knucksugh its not working10:39
=== apokryphos [~apokrypho@host-84-9-32-191.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu
knucksits just telling me that now im missing libparted1.6-1210:40
knucksand itry getting that and its not available10:40
alissonQuest-Master, I come from slack, and there, that I remember, was in that way.....10:40
=== apokryphos [~apokrypho@host-84-9-32-191.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== Lemonzest [~Lemonzest@cpc1-nott4-3-0-cust27.nott.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== NetwrkMonkey [~Monkey@netwrkmonkey.user] has joined #ubuntu
MrKeuneror how can I change operating system language from english to german?10:41
alissonQuest-Master, I don't know if in debian the command export is different.10:41
Loioshalisson: When you place it in bash.rc each time a user logs into a BASH shell, the PATH is set.10:41
alissonLoiosh, don't is better then put in .profile, then whanever i log in, the PATH is set?10:42
=== TdFnSG [zpchbd@85.97.196.185] has joined #ubuntu
alissonLoiosh, *isn't10:42
LoioshI put it in the profile file myself.10:42
=== Loiosh uses RH 9 at work, so it's /etc/profile for him.
=== rapha [~rapha@p54A089FC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu
bzbbhmph10:43
bzbbwhen I try to add a modeline with xorgcfg, it brings up a dialog box with the text "label" and the options yes or no10:43
bzbbneither one does anything10:43
alissonLoiosh, ok, I will do it then. The problem is when a admnistrator have a lot of users already set.10:44
MrKeuneror how can I add a new session language in gdm?10:44
knucksok gparted isnt working10:44
LoioshYeah, Ubuntu's instructions normally don't take into account multiple users =)10:44
knucksi found libparted in synaptic..10:44
=== linuxn00b [~mystic@d205-250-56-39.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== Oambo [~ALdeaAX@193.219.91.133] has joined #ubuntu
knucksso can someone help me with a partition program?10:48
knucksi dont care which, i just want one thats easy to use and install10:48
linuxn00bqtarted..I think thats what it's called10:48
linuxn00boops qtparted10:49
=== Alessio [~Alessio@host113-4.pool8251.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu
=== drspin [~cole@ip68-2-123-172.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #Ubuntu
knucksi think i tried that one and it didnt work..let me try again10:49
=== Quest-Master [~qmaster@c-24-99-26-36.atl.client2.attbi.com] has joined #ubuntu
Quest-MasterAck10:49
drspinhey all10:49
linuxn00bhey drspin :)10:49
Quest-MasterHow to I manually change my resolution?10:49
Quest-MasterAnd the hertz my monitor is running at?10:49
knucksi get this error trying to launch it:10:50
Quest-MasterAfter upgrading to Hoary10:50
drspinQuest-Master: warty or hoary?10:50
Quest-MasterI'm stuck in 800x60010:50
Quest-MasterAnd 53hz10:50
Quest-MasterReally ugly10:50
Quest-Master:(10:50
=== Kly [dd@81.213.231.68] has joined #ubuntu
Klywww.otomotivshow.com10:50
knucks"Details: Failed to execute child process "/usr/sbin/su-to-root/"10:50
=== Kly [dd@81.213.231.68] has left #ubuntu []
Quest-MasterHow do I fix it?10:50
=== jc-denton [~jc@zux173-061.adsl.green.ch] has joined #ubuntu
linuxn00bQuest-Master, you can change it in your xfree86 config file10:50
drspinQuest-Master: I would copy the /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 to /etc/X11/xorg.conf10:50
Quest-MasterOk10:50
drspinIt's rough but it worked for me...10:50
drspinlinuxn00b: Hoary uses xorg rather than Xfree10:51
linuxn00bI just wanna sya that synergy is the coolest program I have found in a while :D10:51
=== endir [~mdb@pcp01877206pcs.sandia01.nm.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
drspinwhat's a good linux VPN server?10:51
linuxn00bdrspin, I know I thougth he was uing warty :D10:51
drspin... free VPN server10:51
LinuxJoneslinuxn00b, it's pretty cool :)10:52
=== cwill1 [~cwillu@Ottawa-HSE-ppp4122314.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu
drspinlinuxn00b: K10:52
tckknucks, try cfdisk10:52
knucksapt-get it?10:52
tckits a cusrse based partitioner10:52
Quest-MasterOk10:52
Quest-Masterdrspin, should I restart GNOME now?10:52
cwill1I'm having crashy hangy problems10:52
linuxn00banyone know what version of synergy is in hoary?10:52
drspinQuest-Master: restart x [ctrl + alt + backspace] 10:53
=== gaatmx [~gaatmx@dsl-200-78-32-67.prod-infinitum.com.mx] has joined #ubuntu
drspincwill1: what does dmesg|tail say?10:53
LinuxJoneslinuxn00b, 1.0.14-110:53
cwill1not sure... waiting for the thing to come up again10:53
knuckscfdisk wont start up10:53
cwill1or was that not a typo :p10:53
cwill1no, I just can't spell my own name10:54
tckknucks, what u mean10:54
linuxn00bLinuxJones, why soo old?? warty uses the smae one :S10:54
tcktry it as root10:54
tcksudo cfdisk10:54
knuckscommand not found10:54
LinuxJoneslinuxn00b, nobody updated it10:54
knucksand i just installed it using synaptic10:54
=== tremor [~tremor@dD57647E0.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu
tckknucks, thats strange it should be there, what are you running ?10:54
Chipzzknucks: sudo /usr/sbin/cfdisk10:54
linuxn00bLinuxJones, is it easy to make a deb from source..I have never done it before haha10:55
knuckssudo: /usr/sbin/cfdisk: command not found10:55
drspinwhat does APIC error on CPU0 mean?10:55
Chipzzhmm weird10:55
BiteMeBilldoesn't cfdisk also need to know what device you want to open with it?10:55
LinuxJoneslinuxn00b, I haven't either but I don't think it's too difficult10:55
linuxn00bhumm, ok i'll look around and see if I can make one :D10:56
LinuxJoneslinuxn00b, it's a good project for you :D10:56
knucksugh this is so frustrating10:56
knucksgparted wont work10:56
=== MiFHgUjN [zpchbd@85.97.196.185] has joined #ubuntu
ChipzzBiteMeBill: the error he's getting is an error from the shell, not cfdisk10:56
knucksqtparted wont work10:56
Chipzzso that's unrelated10:56
=== ralf_ [~ralf@p508CE857.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== ralf_ [~ralf@p508CE857.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #ubuntu ["Verlassend"]
LinuxJonesknucks, just use cfdisk10:57
=== SiliconViper [~siliconvi@d205-250-111-241.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu
knuckscfdisk doesnt work!10:57
cwill1ACPI: Battery Slot [BAT0]  (battery present)10:57
cwill1ACPI: AC Adapter [AC]  (on-line)10:57
cwill1ACPI: Power Button (FF) [PWRF] 10:57
cwill1ACPI: Sleep Button (FF) [SLPF] 10:57
cwill1ACPI: Lid Switch [LID] 10:57
cwill1cs: IO port probe 0x0100-0x04ff: excluding 0x200-0x207 0x220-0x22f10:57
cwill1 0x330-0x337 0x388-0x38f10:57
cwill1cs: IO port probe 0x0800-0x08ff: clean.10:57
LinuxJonesknucks, your in the account that you installed Ubuntu with ?10:57
=== SiliconViper [~siliconvi@d205-250-111-241.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu
knucksyeah10:57
drspinknucks: try logging out and logging back in10:57
LinuxJonesknucks, your starting it in a root console right ?10:58
linuxn00bLinuxJones, yea I hope it will be a good project :)10:58
knucksyeah10:58
linuxn00banyone here watch anime?10:58
LinuxJoneslinuxn00b, and we can enjoy all of your hard work :P10:58
cwill1cs: IO port probe 0x0c00-0x0cff: clean10:58
cwill1cs: IO port probe 0x0a00-0x0aff: clean10:58
cwill1eth0: no IPv6 routers present10:58
=== sabdfl [~mark@host217-37-231-28.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has joined #ubuntu
LinuxJonesknucks, are you on warty or hoary ?10:58
cwill1and that's it10:58
knuckswarty10:58
sabdflgreetings ubuntites!10:58
knucksi just tried:10:58
BiteMeBill could try sudo sbin/cfdisk10:58
knuckssudo cfdisk10:58
knucksand i get:10:58
linuxn00bLinuxJones, oh yea :D10:58
knucksFATAL ERROR: Cannot open disk drive!10:59
=== SiliconViper [~siliconvi@d205-250-111-241.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu
LinuxJonesknucks, sudo -s to open an admin console then type cfdisk10:59
knucksFATAL ERROR thing10:59
R0bNycWhat iso burning app can I use on ubuntu?10:59
knucksGnomeBaker ^10:59
apokryphosR0bNyc: or k3b. :P11:00
R0bNycthanks let me aptitude install it11:00
drspinor nautilus will burn an ISO right from the browser -- right click on the ISO -- the extension has to be lower-case in Warty, not sure if it's fixed in Hoary or not11:00
=== Nekohayo [~Kiddo@ip216-239-74-191.vif.net] has joined #ubuntu
lunitikR0bNyc: graveman is probably the best burning app in the archive...11:01
lunitikapokryphos: no one uses k3b... gnomebaker has a simular interface though...11:01
knucksi really want to get this partiton thing working :(11:02
knuckswtf11:02
drspinI use k3b currently but I hate it...11:02
apokryphoslunitik: odd statement. I use it. Others do too.11:02
lunitikapokryphos: well, no intelligent gnome user  :/11:02
Loioshgraveman / gnomebaker? =)11:02
apokryphosI use it and love it11:02
apokryphoslunitik: Er... why?11:02
LoioshDebate for my amusement =)11:02
LoioshHehe11:02
lunitikapokryphos: takes like 5 mins to load the kde libs11:02
=== TongMaster [~TongMaste@home.waugh.id.au] has joined #ubuntu
apokryphoslunitik: Don't presuppose that everyone's computer takes the same time to load things.11:03
apokryphoslunitik: seems reasonably speedy for me in Gnome, when I actually venture into there.11:03
lunitikapokryphos: either way, it takes about 10 times longer than using a gnome/gtk app11:03
apokryphoslunitik: never as fast as in kde though, naturally.11:03
apokryphoslunitik: Well, your point is a little ruined by the exaggeration.11:03
=== saBrEwolf [~craig@ppp-0-122.leic-a-1.access.uk.tiscali.com] has joined #ubuntu
SavWhat is Knubuntu?11:04
lunitikSav: Kubuntu... KDE based Ubuntu11:04
LoioshKDE Ubuntu11:04
Savok11:04
sabdflSav: it's the nutella theme of the Kubuntu distro11:04
cwill1synaptic is having troubles, although it might be more general11:04
knucksok i launched qtparted11:05
knucksand it told me no device detected11:05
knuckswhat is up with that?11:05
=== ch1 [~chz@cpe-70-112-165-102.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
drspinwhy does my processor usage on my dual processor machine never really rise much higher than 50%???11:05
BiteMeBillknucks: what are you trying to partition?11:05
zenroxknucks,  put a sudo infrount of it11:05
cwill1drspin... are you using more than one major program at a time?11:05
knucksBiteMeBill: i want to delete my ntfs partition and make a linux one11:06
ch1hello...i have a question...anybody know what the problem could be if my computer shuts down out of nowhere...and doesnt start back up....11:06
=== qosmof [~qosmof@host12-243.pool8255.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu
drspincwill1: ... sometimes...11:06
BiteMeBillsudo fdisk /dev/hda doesn't work?11:06
drspinch1: power supply11:06
knucksum11:06
LoioshHeh, that was quick11:06
lunitiksabdfl: aren't you Mark Shuttleworth?  *blush*11:06
MrKeuneris it possible to have ubuntu in another language?11:06
drspinch1: maybe just a bad power cable...11:06
=== Quest-Master [~qmaster@c-24-99-26-36.atl.client2.attbi.com] has joined #ubuntu
lunitikMrKeuner: yes... dpkg-reconfigure locales11:07
ch1i tried two power cables...11:07
knuckshow do i view all my partitions in consel?11:07
drspinQuest-Master: any luck?11:07
ch1so power supply huh...ok...i'll try that out...11:07
lunitikknucks: fdisk -l11:07
=== njs12345 [~njs@dsl-217-155-201-142.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu
lunitikknucks: uhh... sudo that though11:07
ch1so its not the mobo at all..?11:07
drspinknucks ls /dev/hda*11:07
njs12345anyone know why I get this error when trying to install the fglrx drivers:11:07
drspinch1: could be -- I was just starting at the more obvious places...11:08
knucksi want to get rid of it11:08
MrKeunerlunitik/ I'd like to change the language for just one user if I can. When she logs in from gdm she should see gnome in another language11:08
knucksok /dev/hdc5 is my ntfs11:08
ch1hopefully its the power supply...alot cheaper than the rest...=P11:08
njs12345trying to overwrite '/usr/X11R6/bin/fgl_glxgears', which is also in package fglrx-6-8-011:08
drspinch1: indeed11:08
LoioshLoL11:08
qosmofhi :)11:08
ch1thanks guys....11:08
=== Loiosh is getting a new system because of his computer's Ubuntu-hate
lunitikMrKeuner: Don't know how to do that, sorry11:08
drspinI have two systems running Ubuntu :) :)11:09
drspinI'm about to convert my laptop as well :D11:09
njs12345then it says "dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)11:09
LoioshMy computer absolutely hates it =)11:09
njs12345I have two as well11:09
MrKeunerlunitik/ ok thanks anyway11:09
knucksso how do i fdisk my /dev/hdc5 partition?11:09
ch1yeah..im on my laptop runnin ubuntu rite now...11:09
=== regeya [~shane@sdn-ap-017ilchicP0285.dialsprint.net] has joined #ubuntu
ch1its great..11:09
njs12345and four have run linux at some point or another11:09
LoioshI cannot even get the live CD to work. It keeps crashing on the SCSI detection in the kernel.11:09
cwill1yay for laptops11:09
=== javaJake [~javaJake@c-24-60-92-231.ne.client2.attbi.com] has joined #ubuntu
drspinI have gentoo on my laptop now...11:09
LoioshThe new one (Array 6), warty works fine with noscsi11:09
drspin*yawn* I grew bored of it11:09
LoioshHaha11:09
Loioshemerge (wait 2 days)11:10
ch1oo...gentoo..i tried that.....learned alot...but man...cant stand waiting there for sumthing to get installed..11:10
knucks...11:10
BiteMeBillyou need to choose the partition that you want to delete and then create11:10
lunitikknucks: you mean format? mkfs.ext3 /dev/hdc5 (for instance)11:10
qosmofsorry but I'm the fucking newbie of this fucking night :) From the web: This means that a user's first experience with Ubuntu could end being confused by the cryptic error message "There is no element present to handle the stream's mime type audio/mpeg."11:10
LinuxJonesknucks, fdisk /dev/hdc11:10
javaJakeAre there ops here? I HATE swearing.11:10
drspinLoiosh: indeed -- although it was a GREAT learning experience -- all 3 times I had to start over because the system clock wasn't set right11:10
njs12345qosmof: http://wiki.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats11:10
njs12345or some variation of that11:10
javaJakeAnyway, taht's off the subject, I've got a q:11:10
LoioshStart over, seriously?11:10
Loioshrdate -s11:10
=== scorpix_ [~scorpix@as4-32.qualitynet.net] has joined #ubuntu
qosmofnjan, thanks so much11:11
njs12345qosmof: np11:11
qosmofnjs12,11:11
njs12345mp3 support can't be shipped because it has patent problems11:11
=== ompaul [~ompaul@213-202-159-139.bas503.dsl.esat.net] has joined #ubuntu
saBrEwolfhey people, I was wondering if you could help me.. I have a Nvidia graphics card [GeForce N 128MB AGPx8] , but it doesn't seem to be supported by the drivers that are in universe of warty, is there any way of getting the latest drivers in deb?11:11
lunitiknjs12345: no one is inforcing it though, which makes it somewhat more annoying...11:11
knuckswhat does mkfs.ext3 /dev/hdc5 do?11:11
lunitiknjs12345: imo, if Debian can ship something, everyone should feel safe to do the same...11:12
javaJakeIf I install Ubuntu over redhat v8, will I keep my current Windows and RedHat partitions?11:12
lunitikknucks: formats the partition11:12
knucksk thanks11:12
LoioshI don't know if this is supported, Sabre, but you could always get the nvidia drivers from their website.11:12
=== ch1 [~chz@cpe-70-112-165-102.austin.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu []
BiteMeBillformats hdc5 to ext3 format11:12
LoioshThey're binary -only-11:12
knucksext3 - liunux right?11:12
=== javaJake yawns patiently
BiteMeBillyes11:12
ompauljavaJake, if you want to11:12
javaJake:-)11:12
javaJakesorry, couldn't resist.11:12
javaJakeok, tahks11:12
=== Loiosh just hopes his new computer will let him install Ubuntu
lunitikLoiosh: its in the archive... wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto11:13
javaJakeso redhat will be gone, BUT NOT WINDOWS, right?11:13
qosmofnjs12345, off the suject?11:13
knucksok formatting11:13
njs12345lunitik: I haven't researched the matter, I'm just saying what I've heard =)11:13
soren9580is there any way to automatically transfer a file based upon its modification date/time?11:13
tcksaBrEwolf, join #nvidia for linux/nvidia gfx card help11:13
saBrEwolfok, thanks for pointing in the right direction :)11:13
njs12345anybody know anything about my Q?11:13
rcliiijavajake: there's an option in the installer to partition manually -- that's what you want11:13
njs12345I'll probably end up just reinstalling..11:13
LoioshThat's cool11:13
ompauljavaJake, as long as you do it the way you have it done now - so print out your existing /etc/fstab and use it to create your "new ubuntu" partitions11:13
lunitiknjs12345: didn't see your question... what was it?11:13
rcliiijavajake: you can force it to leave the windows partition alone, but format the redhat partitions11:14
javaJakeok, that's what I want.11:14
cwill1laptop.  synaptic.   don't get along.  suggestion?  :p11:14
njs12345when trying to install ATi drivers: trying to overwrite `/usr/X11R6/bin/fgl_glxgears`, which is also in package fglrx-6-8-011:14
javaJakehow do I do that?11:14
ompauljavaJake, was the RH stuff done by hand or automagically?11:14
Loioshautomagically, LoL11:14
njs12345dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)11:14
VladDraccwil what's your problem?11:14
javaJake(I've trashed Windows trying to install linux, don't want to do it again.)11:14
knucksok now what?11:14
cwill1trying to do an update all11:15
javaJakeDone by hand11:15
knucksit still says that the hdc5 is ntfs11:15
EchyloI say it again11:15
cwill1I was getting hangs during the downloads, although they eventually finished11:15
Echylohttp://www.musicplasma.com && LimeWire rock!11:15
sabdfllunitik: yup11:15
ompauljavaJake, well print out /etc/fstab and if you break it you break it11:15
cwill1but the config locks up11:15
sabdflgreetings11:15
sabdflearthling :-11:15
sabdfl)11:15
lunitiknjs12345: dpkg --force-overwrite -i thepackage   (may need to apt-get -d install thepackage if you're getting it from online)11:15
njs12345if the worst comes to the worst I could always just install the fglrx drivers from source.. but that's kinda crappy because then I have to update them myself =)11:15
njs12345lunitik: woot! thanks11:15
javaJake*sigh*11:15
javaJakeI really dont want to have any more "accidents".11:15
lunitiksabdfl: cool... thanks a lot for your efforts, much appreciated  :)11:15
rcliiijavajake: just select manual partitioning in the install (the automatic partitioner defaults to using the whole disk)11:15
=== awstott^n [~andrew@d142-59-130-205.abhsia.telus.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
javaJakeok11:16
rcliiijavajake: once you're in the manual partitioning section it will leave windows alone by default11:16
javaJakeI'll have to do it with a computer expert.11:16
ompauljavaJake, it should work as long as you do not do it wrong, and if you do it carefully you will not have accidents - rush in and break it all11:16
lunitiksabdfl: psst, you should talk to calc if you want a good KDE maintainer... maintained KDE for Debian on his own for a while  ;)11:16
knuckswhat do i do now with my ntfs partition ?11:16
soren9580does anyone have an answer to my question?11:16
rcliiijavajake: in fact, you have to specifically tell it to format any partitions, and it will warn you that you're going to trash the data on those partitions11:16
njs12345ta lunitik :)11:16
=== cwill1 [~cwillu@Ottawa-HSE-ppp4122314.sympatico.ca] has left #ubuntu []
sabdfllunitik: ok, thanks, i know Riddell and haggai and amu would appreciate any help11:16
lunitiknjs12345: yw11:16
cwilluahh... much better11:16
javaJakercliii: ok11:17
cwillu(the name at least)11:17
LinuxJonessoren9580, for like a backup ?11:17
soren9580yea11:17
=== njs12345 [~njs@dsl-217-155-201-142.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu
javaJakeompaul: well, i tried, but I trashed Windows. (I had no idea what hda1 meant at the time. :)11:17
soren9580well, i'm downloading files11:17
=== apokryphos [~apokrypho@host-84-9-32-191.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu
LoioshHaha Jake =)11:17
lunitiksabdfl: he deserves it, good guy  :)11:17
njs12345anyone seen xchat-gnome debs?11:17
soren9580and i dont want them to be copied until they are finished downloading11:17
=== bumperland [~bumper@69-162-201-196.bflony.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu
knucksplease can someone help me with my ntfs partition?11:17
ompauljavaJake, so do you know what it is now?11:18
lunitiknjs12345: XChat is gnome based... same thing11:18
soren9580once they are finished, i want to automatically move them to a folder where they will automatically rsync with my computer11:18
soren9580i've got the rsync down11:18
javaJakeompaul: yea.... it's the largest partition.11:18
=== andrewski [~andrewski@pool-151-197-228-57.phil.east.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu ["Bis]
njs12345lunitik: http://xchat-gnome.navi.cx/11:18
njs12345:)11:18
soren9580but i can't figure out how to move them based upon date modified11:18
LinuxJonessoren9580, you might want to look @ rsync it updates only the parts of the file that changed.11:18
ompauljavaJake, look it is this easy/hard - print out /etc/fstab from dead rat and you will have the partition table as it is now - that tells you what is what11:18
soren9580yea, the --update flag11:18
javaJakeompaul & rcliii: ok, so manual partition, delete redhat, install in that partiton. Got it.11:18
LinuxJonessoren9580, rsync won't do it for you ?11:19
soren9580i already use that so i don't transfer files twice11:19
soren9580nope, if its got half a file11:19
soren9580its gonna transfer that half of a file11:19
LinuxJonessoren9580, ohh I see11:19
soren9580and there's no way to stop it from transferring locked files11:19
javaJakeompaul: I have no clue HOW to print out /etc etc.11:19
lunitiknjs12345: oh... uhh... ouch11:19
ompauljavaJake, have you a printer attached to the linux machine?11:19
lunitiknjs12345: looks ugly!11:19
=== larsson_ [~larsson@h164n3c1o285.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu
javaJakeno.11:19
javaJake(sadly enough)11:20
LinuxJonessoren9580, you should be able to do it using a bash script but how do you determine if the download is finished ?11:20
njs12345I think it looks quite good personally :)11:20
ompaulcan you see one from the windows machine?11:20
larsson_Hi again. The package dcgui-qt seems to be broken in hoary. Any comment? Will it be fixed?11:20
ompauljavaJake, actually forget that do the following and write it out on paper11:20
larsson_It works fine the first time, but during the second startup it either crashes or looks funny.11:20
soren9580based upon when it was last modified11:20
lunitiknjs12345: I like the current look... that just looks cluttered11:20
=== ldarnis [~ldarnis@cbproxy.astra-net.com] has joined #ubuntu
ompauljavaJake, cat /etc/fstab11:20
soren9580if it was last modified 10 minutes prior to the running of the script11:20
LinuxJonessoren9580, if you had md5sum of the files you could run a bash script every few minutes and only have the files transfer if the md5sum is correct11:20
javaJakecat /etc/fstab ok11:21
soren9580i was thinking that too11:21
soren9580and the torrents should have it11:21
ompauljavaJake, that is how hard it is to read the existing partiation table so you can use the partitions the same11:21
soren9580let me check if i can use the bittorrent software to check the md511:21
LinuxJonessoren9580, yes they should :)11:21
GammaRaywould someone tell me why the idiot who wrote the grub manual could not refrain from saying "That was easy, admit it." in the actual manual?11:21
lunitiknjs12345: current XChat, you can have it so that all that shows is the input field, any tabs, and the chat area, everything else can be hidden... looks simple and nice11:21
javaJakeompaul: thanks! thanks for your patience while dealing with a dummy.11:21
ompauljavaJake, I'm saying nothing11:22
=== blizah [~stephen@12-205-175-178.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== ompaul rafl
soren9580its just a question of can i get it?11:22
javaJakeompaul: great. Now you made me feel REALLY dumb. :-)11:22
LoioshAwww11:22
LoioshDon't worry Jake11:22
cwilluis this going to work?11:22
=== fleebailey66 [~andy@c-67-163-138-215.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
cwillu<--crosses fingers11:23
LoioshI cannot even run it, you're far ahead of me, hehe11:23
larsson_Anyone using dcgui-qt here? From APT?11:23
cwilluheh11:23
cwillusynaptic just... disappeared11:23
ompauljavaJake, you may have skills out side of the area of linux I do not know, frankly install ubuntu get rid of windows and increase the mind share :)11:23
lunitiklarsson_: most people in here don't use any qt or kde apps.11:23
=== looksaus [~mark@dD5767F6D.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu
javaJakeompaul: Windows is the main OS for me.11:24
=== ice [~ice@cable90a238.usuarios.retecal.es] has joined #ubuntu
lunitikjavaJake: sell out  :P11:24
LoioshAnyone want to take s stab at my Ubuntu LiveCD / installing problem11:24
=== javaJake ducks as flying eggs shoot at him.
LoioshHahaha11:24
cwilluwork work work11:24
=== Neil3 [~neil@host81-156-47-228.range81-156.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu
Riddelllunitik: apart from all the k3b users :)11:24
soren9580it doesn't seem like there's a way to get it out of the torrent file11:24
=== Loiosh is -using- Win right now, don't worry, Jake =)
cwilluanyone know why synaptic would just disappear?11:24
LoioshOh, so are you11:24
LoioshLoL11:24
=== javaJake wipes his forehead
ompauljavaJake,  if you write out that stuff I told you about you will be fine in the installer and feel empowered - something windows does not do for people as far as I know ;-)11:24
soren9580without seriously modifying btdownloadcurses11:24
blizahanything in linux/ubuntu play wmv files?11:24
=== NetwrkMonkey [~Monkey@netwrkmonkey.user] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
Neil3blizah, yep11:24
Neil3the win32 codecs11:25
knucksok how do i format my ntfs partition11:25
Neil3with your media player of choice11:25
Neil3mplayer or xine11:25
javaJakeWindows is the only one that can support my games, my favourtie text editor, should I continue?11:25
lunitikRiddell: gah... GNOME users shouldn't use KDE apps... loading kinit just to burn a CD is moronic.11:25
=== tims [~tims@c-24-21-58-44.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== aspro [~geoff@dsl-203-113-242-207.TAS.netspace.net.au] has joined #ubuntu
=== calamari [~calamari@dialup-4.240.247.59.Dial1.Phoenix1.Level3.net] has joined #ubuntu
javaJakeWell, gotta go.11:25
LoioshNo =) You shouldn't hehe11:25
LoioshThen you'll get advice on how to fix that, LoL11:25
ompauljavaJake, /quit while your ahead :)11:25
LoioshSo, anyone want to take a look at my Ubuntu issue? =)11:25
knucksi know you guys know how to fdisk11:26
=== Loiosh searches for help, hehe.
javaJakeGAG! IM NOT TYPINGF RIGT STOP FUSHING EM!11:26
=== javaJake [~javaJake@c-24-60-92-231.ne.client2.attbi.com] has left #ubuntu ["His]
lunitikRiddell: I've never been a fan of mixing the environments, enless your xsession loads both... most won't do that though.11:26
ompaulLoiosh, what is it?11:26
blizahdoes ubuntu come with mplayer or xine?11:27
LoioshWell, we'll start with the CD. When it starts the kernel, it crashes on "Bringing up SCSI" noscsi scsi=no ACPI=no, etc, doesn't help, sadly. This is the array 6 cd.11:27
=== _adw_ [~adw@230.80-203-59.nextgentel.com] has joined #ubuntu
cwilluhmm... killing postfix seems to have done something11:27
njs12345blizah: I believe it comes with a stripped-down xine11:27
njs12345but you can get mplayer11:27
blizahjust go download it?11:27
LoioshThe Ubuntu warty install cd crashes when probing my advansys (IOMEGA jaz jet PCI scsi) card.11:27
njs12345nah11:27
LoioshThe system just.. halts.11:27
knucksHELP11:27
njs12345add a repositiory11:27
lunitikRiddell: plus, using KDE apps with GNOME gives the same issues I dislike about Kubuntu right now not using gtk2-engines-gtk-qt by default...11:27
=== bumperland [~bumper@69-162-201-196.bflony.adelphia.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
ompaulknucks, fdisk -l /dev/hd(a/b/c/d) discover your ntfs then fdisk /dev/hdxn where x is the letter for the drive and n the number of that  partition11:28
knucksHow do I format my NTFS partition11:28
blizahi do tht in synaptic right jks12345?11:28
lunitikknucks: you don't from Linux.11:28
knuckshow then11:28
=== Ero-Sennin [WinNT@pc-9-106-104-200.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu
cwilluknucks, look for bootitng11:28
LoioshSo, that's my issue, hehe.11:28
=== mumak [~jml@ppp111-55.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu
LoioshThe old (warty) live CD worked fine with noscsi11:28
ompaulknucks do you want to release that space to ubnuntu?11:28
lunitikknucks: set the partition aside, and let windows installer do it11:28
cwilluboot disk with a gui to do partition work, fairly straightforward, just don't it "install to harddrive" when it starts up11:28
knucksompaul: yeah11:29
=== Ero-Sennin [WinNT@pc-9-106-104-200.cm.vtr.net] has left #ubuntu []
ompaulknucks then follow the advice I just gave out11:29
cwillucan somebody tell me why synpatic closes while installing?11:29
lunitikknucks: ahh... then it doesn't matter what file system it is now... just mkfs.ext3 /dev/whateveritis11:29
ompaulLoiosh, I would suggest in that case to try hoary arry 511:29
ompaularray even11:29
knuckssudo fdisk /dev/hdc511:30
knucksright?11:30
LoioshThat installer doesn't pop the kernel SCSI does it?11:30
ompaulknucks, that looks okay11:30
=== Loiosh will download anyways.
lunitikompaul: any reason you don't recommend daily's?  (genuine question... seems better to start from a more up to date point..)11:30
cwillulunitik: they may well be broekn11:30
soren9580okay11:30
cwillubroken11:30
knucksi opened: COmman (m for help):11:30
ompaullunitik, yeah on a day to day level you could get a really bad one11:30
GammaRaywhy does menu.lst say root (hd0,0) when my my root is /dev/hdd and I have a /dev/hda as well?11:31
lunitikcwillu: thats why you check the report.html file11:31
ompaullunitik, following that you should be a developer not a new user for that level of exposure of possible frustration11:31
lunitikompaul: ^^11:31
LoioshHehehe11:31
LoioshI tried the daily =)11:31
drspinwhy can't I find gmaplyer in synaptic?11:31
knucksmkfs.ext3 /dev/hdc5 now..11:31
knuckswriting inode tables..11:31
GammaRayshould it not be (hd1,0)?11:32
ompaulcause it is gmplayer11:32
LoioshThe problem isn't a package, it's part of the new kernel startup they're using.11:32
lunitikompaul: I got one bad image... and learned fast to start looking at the report's11:32
Echyloshould I stay or should I go11:32
Echylodeng deng deng11:32
ompaullunitik, ubuntu gets suggested to a lot of newbies and I would not expose a total newbie to that11:32
lunitikdrspin: mplayer-386 (for instance) has gmplayer... mplayer-nogui is the only one that doesn't contain it11:32
LoioshIt's doing something with the SCSI card.11:32
=== snowblink [~snowblink@wind.snowblink.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu
lunitikompaul: I wouldn't expose such users to the devel branch at all   :/11:33
drspinlunitik: YAY! --11:33
cwillu"removing gdm" ...11:33
LoioshLun, you want to try to trouble shoot my issue? =)11:33
cwilluthis can't be good11:33
ompaullunitik, I would when and only when they do not get warty to run - and then I only suggest array511:33
knucksok what now?11:33
knucksit still says its a NTFS11:33
=== njs_ [~njs@dsl-217-155-201-142.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu
ompaulknucks, it will until you reboot :-(11:34
knucksooo11:34
knucksok11:34
knucksbrb then11:34
LoioshReboot?! =)11:34
lunitikompaul: Array 5 is just a daily snapshot that happened the day the release plan said they were supposed to do a devel release11:34
=== njs_ is now known as njs12345
njs12345oo.. spiffy11:34
njs12345this xchat-gnome thing is pretty cool..11:34
=== Rigkxx [~QdHsChh@85.97.196.185] has joined #ubuntu
lunitikompaul: the array discs are just as likely to have bugs as any other daily11:35
ompaullunitik, and I hve used it a lot and not had issues with it - it has a bit more hardware support that has worked for me11:35
blizahnjs12345 so i do synaptic to get mplayer?11:35
drspingstreamer0.8 or xine?11:35
njs12345yup11:35
blizahyou know the package name?11:35
soren9580how do isolate the output of ls -l?11:35
=== flyover [~jeremy@12-216-228-198.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu
sabdflompaul: please file bugs on anything you find now, as we are in final bug push through to release mode11:35
soren9580to get just the last modified time?11:35
lunitikdrspin: why do you want xine when you have mplayer around?11:35
njs12345soren9580: ls -l | grep <some text>11:35
=== tasuki [~tasuki@r2ai7.chello.upc.cz] has joined #ubuntu
=== tasuki [~tasuki@r2ai7.chello.upc.cz] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
drspinsoren9580: ls -l | grep <string>11:36
ompaulsabdfl, I have none at this time - I have pushed out stuff for grumpy11:36
LoioshWhere would we report them, sabdfl?11:36
=== Loiosh has an Array 6 issue of much sadness.
soren9580cool, thanks11:36
cwilluis xorg or xfree86 the x server in hoary?11:36
drspinlunitik: just asking which would be better... I still use totem for a few things...11:36
drspinxorg11:36
sabdflompaul: bugzilla.ubuntu.com11:36
soren9580now i just have to figure out what the grep should be to get just the date modified11:36
njs12345oh, if you only want the last modified time11:36
drspinsoren9580: where you from?11:36
Echyloxorg cwillu ?11:36
apokryphoscwillu: though you can of course use both11:37
soren9580Oregon11:37
soren9580i'm a student11:37
cwilluokay, thx11:37
=== bwlang [~bwlang@bb-66-55-211-238.gwi.net] has joined #ubuntu
LoioshThanks, sabdfl =)11:37
blizahnjs12345, you know the package name in synap?11:37
ompaulsabdfl, I do not have bugs to report at this time - and I spent a lot of today doing apt-get update11:37
lunitikdrspin: currently gstreamer's ffmpeg plugin isn't up to much, so the xine backend would be more useful11:37
drspinsoren9580: NM -- one of my buddies used to use your nick11:37
=== Loiosh is the one with the problem.
lunitikdrspin: they are working on that though apparently11:37
GNAMincredible! my ubuntu-64 won't install11:37
drspinlunitik: thanks11:37
soren9580well, i used to live in CA11:37
drspinsoren9580: yeah - nope... New Mexico11:37
apokryphosNot Soren Kierkegaard fans, by any chance?11:37
=== carlos [~carlos@george.kkhotels.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu
soren9580and i think i'm the only person to ever use this nickname11:37
ompaulapt-get install was rather busy11:38
soren9580with 9580 at the end?11:38
njs12345ls -l | awk '{ print $6 " " print $7 }'11:38
njs12345blizah: you need to add some repositories11:38
njs12345and then it's mplayer -i586, or mplayer-k7, or mplayer-i38611:38
blizahas i stare blankly :D11:38
GNAMerror when installing kernel "linux-amd64-generic"11:38
GNAMauau11:38
njs12345depending on your CPU11:38
drspinnjs12345: what processor?11:38
blizahsorry im new11:38
lunitiknjs12345: the mplayer packages don't contain the i part11:38
njs12345don't they11:39
njs12345oh no, they don't11:39
njs12345fear not11:39
soren9580njs12345 i don't have auk11:39
lunitiknjs12345: you probably want 'mplayer-686'11:39
ompaulGNAM, would that something to do with an  SATA controller?11:39
sabdflompaul: from warty to hoary?11:39
njs12345http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats11:39
blizahso if ya dont mind me asking what does "adding repositories" involve?11:39
GNAMi've aspire 1522, notebook11:39
njs12345you don't have awk?11:39
sabdflblizah: edit /etc/apt/sources.list11:39
GNAMI tried Warty, now I try Hoary11:39
GNAMI'll try Hoary 611:39
njs12345or go to Settings->Repositories11:39
ompaulsabdfl, no - just a new box not production11:40
njs12345(in synaptic)11:40
soren9580nm11:40
lunitikdrspin: uhh... you prolly want 'mplayer-686' if you have an intel... or -k6 if you have an Athlon11:40
soren9580i typed it in wrong11:40
LoioshOh, there's a bug report for this as well.11:40
njs12345:)11:40
soren9580i'm getting this output11:40
soren9580awk: cmd. line:1: { print $6 " " print $7 }11:40
soren9580awk: cmd. line:1:                ^ parse error11:40
drspinlunitik: it wasn't me -- I use 686 in both systems (P4 && dual celerons)11:40
sabdflok11:40
blizahi have all enabled except deb-src11:40
lunitiknjs12345: also... k7 is only a transition package... depending on k611:40
njs12345oh11:40
ompaulsabdfl, the hoary box is happy and got a lot of testing from two of us with many years of runlevel changing between us :) we then left it with its owner11:40
njs12345I didn't know that11:40
lunitiknjs12345: now you do11:40
sabdflompaul: that's good news!11:41
drspin686 depends on 586 as well ;)11:41
njs12345yup :)11:41
bob_any deb for java runtime environment?11:41
=== knucks [~chatzilla@pcp01189996pcs.waldlk01.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
knucksstill says NTFS on it11:41
knuckswhyyyyyyyy11:41
drspinbob_: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats11:41
Chipzzdid you change partition type?11:41
WillCookebob, I think there's a howto on the wiki or forumes11:41
knucksChipzz: how?11:41
Chipzzfdisk11:41
knuckswell yeah..11:41
njs12345bob_: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java11:41
knucksbut how11:41
Chipzzt11:42
knucksim not getting ya11:42
lunitikknucks: 'cfdisk' might be easier for you11:42
Chipzzuse the t command in fdisk11:42
knuckslunitik: cfdisk didnt work for me11:42
ompaulsabdfl, I have a non production warty box here, I could  bring it to hoary tonight but I might get killed, (its my wifes) if it did not work in the morning, I will do an update on it after she uses it in the morning, when hoary comes out I might consider this particular box for hoary11:42
sabdflompaul: best wait till release if it's life-threatening11:43
=== fleebailey66 [~andy@c-67-163-138-215.client.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
=== Goshawk [~Goshawk@host36-108.pool8251.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu
drspinfor the merillat repos should I use stable, testing or unstable?11:43
ompaulonly on a sunday morning family on multiple contents get together on irc11:43
lunitikknucks: 'sudo cfdisk'11:43
knuckslunitik: doesnt work. i get FATAL ERROR11:44
bob_thanks! :)11:44
njs12345I've been thinking about getting a webcam11:44
lunitikknucks: uhh... oh11:44
njs12345anyone able to recommend one that works well with both win&linux?11:44
WillCookedrspin, which version of ubuntu are you running?  Hoary?11:44
=== gilles [~gilles@lab75-3-82-235-26-179.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu
drspinWillCooke: si11:44
drspinWillCooke: Spanish for "yes"11:44
WillCookedrspin, unstable11:44
drspinWillCooke: thanks11:44
ompaulknucks did you start with fdisk to delete the partition, create a new one and then format it?11:45
knucksno one is telling me how to do any of that11:45
knuckstake me step by step please11:45
knuckspartition name is /dev/hdc511:45
tckjoin #knucks to help him people11:45
=== InitMass [~InitMass@c83-248-162-140.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu
ompaulknucks, if you want msg me and I will talk you through it11:46
lunitiktck: new devel? you seem to like being 'in control'  ;)11:46
=== Echylo is now known as Echy|Zzz
timswhere's glib-config? The glib-config script installed by GLIB could not be found11:46
tcklunitik, nope lol..11:46
Echy|Zzzgnight all11:46
InitMasshi all, how do i set fluxbox as my default enviroment or make it possible to select it in gdm??11:46
tckhes been having problems for the last hour, so i think he'll get better help if we join knucks11:46
Loioshbrb, gunna try new stuff, ompaul =)11:47
ompaulLoiosh,  have fun11:47
LoioshHopefully I can get around this SCSI issue, it's really killing me that I cannot even install Ubuntu, heh11:47
soren9580njs12345, what should i do about the awk not working?11:47
=== chorizocoreano [~chorizoco@c-24-7-68-243.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
lunitiksoren9580: you could try installing gawk instead of mawk and try again...11:48
lunitikunlikely it has the same bug11:48
soren9580i got it to work11:48
soren9580i had to change it to print $811:48
njs12345that's strange11:49
njs12345does the dirname have a space in it?11:49
=== mcphail [~mcphail@81-178-110-28.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== qosmof [~qosmof@host12-243.pool8255.interbusiness.it] has left #ubuntu ["ping]
soren9580no11:51
soren9580this is the output drwxr-xr-x    5 nicholsc nicholsc     4096 Mar  4 22:46 BitTorrent11:51
soren9580without grep11:51
soren9580i mean awk11:51
auraxanyone here uses 915G chipset of intel on linux ?11:51
soren9580now, i've got the current date, i've got the date of the file11:52
soren9580how do i compare the two in a bash script11:52
soren9580and how do i do so for multiple files?11:52
=== apnea [~apnea@81.213.134.139] has joined #ubuntu
=== morten [~morten@64.80-202-76.nextgentel.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== woodywarty [~bill@202.79.36.135] has joined #ubuntu
drspinwhoa - flood...11:55
woodywartyHi all11:55
=== topyli [~juha@dsl-hkigw3pa5.dial.inet.fi] has left #ubuntu []
woodywartyHey can somebody help me with this gnome-vfs thing11:55
=== _miracoolix_ [~icke@pD9EB0D44.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu
woodywartyI can't access my Local Area Network11:55
ompaulsabdfl, to your knowledge has anyone written a move from a debian desktop to ubuntu FAQ?11:55
sabdflompaul: no11:56
woodywartyDo I have to install Samba to access my LAN11:56
ompaulhmm11:56
=== Loiosh [loiosh@c-24-1-68-184.client.comcast.net] has joined #Ubuntu
sabdfldepends so much on which debian11:56
LoioshYeah, no luck11:56
sabdflwoody to warty was relatively easy11:56
sabdfldon't know about woody to hoary11:56
=== Ambersand [Ambersand@12-240-21-140.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu
LoioshIt freezes on: SCSI Subsystem initialized11:56
=== shock [~shockwave@dsl-082-082-155-089.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu
LoioshIt's a hard freeze. I have to actually reset / power off the computer. THe keyboard is fully lucked11:56
woodywartySo what's wrong with my Gnome-vfs thing11:56
sabdfland with sarge, if you last updated more than two months ago it should be easy too11:56
Loioshlocked11:56
soren9580so how do i make a bash script iterate through a directory and check each file?11:57
GoneBoBsoren9580: for i in *; dostuff $i; done11:57
AmbersandHi. I'm trying to boot my ubuntu (warty) cd and my computer reboots after I get the message "uncompressing linux"11:57
GoneBoBsorry let me fix that11:57
=== timefantom [~timefanto@c211-30-150-209.blktn3.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
GoneBoBsoren9580: for i in *; do stuff $i; done11:57
GoneBoBwhere 'stuff' is your command11:57
AmbersandI've tried giving the noacpi and nolacpi parameters but it hasn't helped.11:57
auraxdoes ubuntu works well with this audio card :11:58
auraxIntel High Definition Audio subsystem using the Realtek ALC860 audio codec.11:58
blizahso how do i add the repository for mplayer?11:58
blizahim in repositories under synapitc...11:58
auraxor this mobo : http://www.intel.com/design/motherbd/av/index.htm11:58
mcphailsoren9580: missed the start of the question. Does the 'find' command do what you require?11:58
=== Xirdneh [~eusoj@201.128.162.16] has joined #ubuntu
soren9580hrm11:58
soren9580mcphail, are you in college?11:59
cwilluso, on the assumption that my problems might be rooted in power management, how does one disable such things?11:59
=== timefantom [~timefanto@c211-30-150-209.blktn3.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
soren9580i know someone by that name at my school11:59
mcphailsoren9580: no...11:59
soren9580ok, just thought i'd ask11:59
mcphailok11:59
soren9580there's a guy at my school who's really into computers, and i thought you might be him12:00

Generated by irclog2html.py 2.7 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!