=== haggai [~halls@i-83-67-20-196.freedom2surf.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lamont wonders when x0rg will quit asking those damn questions === jani [~pet@Home03207.cluj.astral.ro] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [12:30] dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/gnome-icon-theme_2.9.92-0ubuntu1_all.deb (--unpack): [12:30] trying to overwrite `/usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/gnome-run.png', which is also in package gnome-panel-data [12:30] dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) === lamont grumbles [12:31] there there....there there [12:31] ooh...braveheart and a bugs life is on tv tonight [12:31] zul: which to watch. which to watch. [12:32] both of course [12:32] the movies are one after the other [12:32] ah, not simulcast, or you have DVR technology? [12:32] ah, much better [12:32] nah...im too cheap === lamont has TiVo technology - way cool [12:34] we cant get tivo in canada..we can go only get tivo like technology from either the cable company or the phone company [12:42] feh [12:45] heh [12:46] that technology is in a massive not-giong-anywhere-omg-legal-ramifications debacle here === mdke [~mdke@mdke.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:54] i've tried #ubuntu, and they can't help me. is anyone willing to help me out for a few minutes? i can't log into gnome (hoary) === AndyR [~andrew@rogers666.plus.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:55] hi all [12:55] has anyone seen this on hoary? usb 1-1: device not accepting address 11, error -110 [12:59] seb128: you around? [12:59] yep [01:00] this sucks. I can't log into gnome because of weird permissions in my ~/. I can't change the permissions of my home directory, and when I create a new user it can't add a user to the home directory. [01:00] gnome-icon-theme replaces: gnome-panel-data? (/usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/gnome-run.png)? [01:00] lamont: just fixed it by an upload like 20s ago [01:01] gnome-panel 2.9.3-0ubuntu1 was the old gnome-panel-data [01:01] cool [01:01] it would help if my daughter actually had RAM in her computer... :0) [01:01] seb128: just wanted to make sure it wasn't sliding through the cracks. [01:01] :) === HiddenWolf [~hidde@136.15.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:03] is anyone able to help me? perhaps this is a known issue? [01:03] mdke: that's a #ubuntu question [01:04] and without a bunch more info, no clue what you need to fix [01:04] they have not been able to help me [01:04] i tried :( [01:05] i was wondering if this was a known issue in hoary atm [01:05] is your partition mounted in ro ? [01:05] no [01:05] seb128, yes that appears to be the problem [01:06] errors=remount-ro [01:06] have you tried to reboot the box ? [01:06] seb128, yeah :( === zenwhen [zenwhen@h-67-102-63-103.phlapafg.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:07] i am trying to upgrade from array 4 to array 6 [01:07] i get this error [01:07] (g-i-t/panel ?) [01:08] ? [01:08] mdke: what ? [01:08] seb128, i wondered if what you said was aimed at me and i didn't understand it [01:08] nop [01:08] unable ot overwrite /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/gnome-run, which is also in package gnome-pnael-data [01:09] speaking about this msg :p [01:09] gnome-icon-theme/gnome-panel conflict [01:09] What should I do [01:09] zenwhen: sudo apt-get -f install [01:20] zenwhen: or install gnome-panel until it makes it, and then dist-upgrade again... [01:20] seb128: how much of the libhowl elimination was you spacing out the uploads to let things build before their build-depending packages built? [01:21] time to get them available by apt on archive.u.c on my box [01:22] why ? [01:23] seb128: because sparc and hppa may have some challenges, then, I expect... [01:23] not a big deal, more just curious [01:23] k [01:23] BTW I need to fix gnomedb for gnumeric [01:23] will do tomorrow [01:23] that is, if timing was part of it, then that explains those issues... [01:23] (hppa currently has a libgnomeui build that fails because howl isn't there... [01:23] yeah, just keep kicking build to sort that :p [01:24] there's nothing under it that I can see that needs it - gonna have to actually debug it I fear. :-) [01:24] I wonder if updating the Build-Depends is a better solution [01:24] ok [01:24] I am running array six now [01:24] based on the update speed I've picked that option [01:24] I don't like to change the Build-Depends that much for this reason [01:24] yeah - not a big issues [01:24] does grub seem a lot slower to anyone else? [01:25] seb128: my mirror is also generally struggling to keep up, so that could be it too... [01:29] lamont: libgnomeui needs libgnome (2.9.1-0ubuntu2), libbonoboui (2.8.1-1ubuntu1) [01:32] Unpacking libgnome2-dev (from .../libgnome2-dev_2.9.2-0ubuntu1_hppa.deb) ... [01:32] Unpacking libbonoboui2-dev (from .../libbonoboui2-dev_2.8.1-1ubuntu1_hppa.deb) [01:32] libtool: link: `/usr/lib/libhowl.la' is not a valid libtool archive [01:33] hence my grumbling to myself [01:36] grep howl /usr/lib/*.la ? [01:36] yeah - installing build-deps now === thierry [~t@modemcable221.10-202-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:37] new linux users are going to be 500% more impressed with hoary than they were with warty [01:37] thanks [01:37] grep -l libhowl /usr/lib/* [01:37] /usr/lib/libbonoboui-2.la [01:37] so much has happened between array 4 and array 6 [01:37] little things [01:37] seb128: which is to say that libbonoboui got built too soon... === lamont brutalizes it [01:38] is gnome enu editing going to be fixed soon? [01:38] menu* [01:39] not sure, we'll probably put a menu editor in universe for hoary [01:39] in gnome itself, it definitely won't be fixed for hoary === plateauwolf [~minghua@adsl-69-153-131-92.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:40] hi, I'd like to try to fix ubuntu bug 4724 but I don't know where to take the source... can anyone tell me? [01:40] apt-get source mozilla-firefox ? [01:40] seb128, and where will this go? [01:41] in your current directory [01:41] ok thanks [01:41] np [01:43] anyone install from today's image? === plateauwolf [~minghua@adsl-69-153-131-92.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] [01:43] night all [01:43] seb128: fwiw, glibm2.4, gst-plugins0.8, and gtkmm2.4 all have non-PIC in shared libaries now... === sabdfl [~mark@host217-37-231-28.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [01:44] lamont: ftbfs ? [01:44] checking that now - I believe amd64 will bitch [01:44] interesting. [01:45] how have you noticed that ? [01:45] hppa [01:45] that surprising [01:45] which is also doing -Wl,--as-needed... /me turns that back off [01:45] what partition tools exist that let me resize existing partitions. anyone? [01:46] seb128: forget I said anything about those 3 [01:47] that's due to -Wl,--as-needed ? [01:47] dunno yet, but there aren't failures for amd64 or ia64, and I know ia64 would bitch [01:47] k [01:47] config changed, given back, we'll see how they do. But I need to take a youngster shopping [01:50] lamont: sup? [01:51] should gnome "feel" slower now than it did in array 4? [01:51] daniels: either I was bitching about xorg asking config questions over and over, or was going to comment on the PSC1315 issue [01:51] no [01:51] well everything is drawing a bit slower. firefox scrolls choppier. [01:52] stuff like that [01:52] lamont: heh :) [01:52] jdub: do you know what component handles the dynamic menu shortcuts ? gtk ? [01:52] yeah [01:52] daniels: I found a gross hack that will let my wife use her psc1315, you see.. [01:52] jdub: is that supposed to be kept ? [01:52] comment in the bug [01:52] jdub: ie, if you restart the app [01:53] seb128: hrm... === mdke [~mdke@mdke.user] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] [01:53] (because it doesn't) [01:54] seb128: and now there's a public preference for it... ;) [01:55] seb128: maybe ask one of the gtk dudes, i don't know if it's supposed since 1.x [01:55] k, thanks [01:55] lamont: oh? [01:56] yeah... anytime xane isn't running, and ptal-mlcd is, you stop/start hpoj. do that in a cronjob every 10 minutes and you get printing again.. :) [01:56] if anybody wants to debug the gossip ftbfs he's welcome [01:57] My rendering slowness went away by disabling nvidia's renderaccell. [01:57] gossip has not changed dunno why it doesn't like XScreenSaver [01:57] perhaps the new packages dont play well with it [01:58] the strange thing is that it claims to find it, and in the next line claims that it couldn't. [01:58] yeah [01:58] lets blame autocrap? [01:58] seems to be an autofoo issue [01:58] yep [02:00] Installing new version of config file /etc/init.d/cupsys ... [02:00] Hmm, cupsys won't stop... I wait 5 seconds... [02:00] Retrying to stop... [02:00] * Starting Common Unix Printing System: cupsd [ ok ] === lamont screams [02:01] otoh, it did actually stop [02:01] just not quickly enough [02:04] do we care about 386 support ? [02:06] no [02:06] our gcc compiles 486 code [02:07] k, thanks, what I was thinking [02:09] wow. -Wl,--as-needed b0rkage. bad jdub === lamont goes shopping [02:09] ooh, you found breakage? [02:11] yeah. glibmm2.4 is ftbfs (non-PIC in shared lib) with that, builds fine without [02:11] ditto two others, see above [02:11] well, I expect.. [02:11] nice! [02:11] happy to send you both logs, if you want them. admittedly, they're from hppa.... :) [02:11] haha [02:11] lamont: blegh [02:11] zenwhen: yeah, my current thinking is that render is broken [02:11] daniels: I _SAID_ it was a gross hack... [02:11] i just don't know HOW [02:12] and jdub was trying to push the pkg-gnome guys to use that now [02:12] bad jdub :) [02:12] i was trying to convince them not to :) [02:12] "don't do it by default" [02:12] ^ very important point :) [02:12] ah ah [02:12] one mention and suddenly they're all talking about "fixing" cdbs to use it [02:13] finding breakage is good though [02:13] seb128: for that matter, debian's gcc compiles 486 code [02:13] if that's how we fix bug I'm curious to know how we break stuff :p [02:13] lamont: k [02:13] crazy debian kids :) [02:13] back in a while === wasabi [~wasabi@c-24-1-67-127.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:14] jdub: I already said for it in general. Offered it to sb for the Gnome module and he said no. Open and closed, nice and easy... [02:14] already said no, that is. [02:15] yeah, this was about discussion before that [02:18] lamont: no it doesn't; it's libstdc++ uses a 486 locking instruction - it doesn't force 486 for everything tho, like we do === r0ver [~rover@22-246-114-200.fibertel.com.ar] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [02:18] [02:20] is somebody using an http proxy and evolution webcal stuff ? === ogra [~ogra@p508EAC13.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:22] seb128: you're just an apt-get install squid away from having it yourself ;) [02:23] yeah, but I'm lazy :p [02:23] daniels: BTW what's the standard way to know that xorg crashed ? [02:23] daniels: #7183, the guy has bugged on gdm but I guess that's an xorg crash [02:23] seb128: segfaults are typically recorded in Xorg.0.log [02:24] seb128: if it went down really, really, really hard, gdm will usually record it === wasabi [~wasabi@c-24-1-67-127.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:24] daniels: k, I'll ask if he has something in the gdm logs [02:24] seb128: awake so late? [02:25] no, I'm sleeping [02:25] seb128: hehe , so you're IRCing in your sleep then :) [02:25] some people talk while they sleep, I reply to bugzilla bugs for my part [02:25] seb128: already asked [02:26] seb128: lol, well, if you like uploading packages as well let me know :) [02:26] daniels: thanks [02:26] sivang: nop, just doing some bug cleanup, I keep the real work for tomorrow :) [02:27] seb128: ok my freind, well, laterz then - I will also head for bed :) [02:28] hmm, esc should be disabled in pw dialog....tsts [02:29] ogra: it should not be counted as a char for the password :) [02:29] hmm, but then we also should disable every non PW char ..... [02:30] F keys.... special chars [02:30] right [02:30] but some people hit esc to clear something [02:31] i know...but thats the default behavior of this pw dialog, i didnt touch anything in this area.... [02:31] gksudo does that fine [02:31] grab the code [02:32] jdub: you don't use an http proxy by any chance ? :p [02:32] i do [02:32] i'll have to write a patch anyway for the finetuning before release... i'll look at it... [02:32] being on the other end of two tin cans and a piece of string from you [02:32] ah ah ah [02:33] jdub: adding a webcal:// in the calendar works fine with a proxy ? === ogra slaps the string... [02:33] one sec [02:33] jdub: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=7212 ... in fact evolution and eds just crash if you set a proxy without having one [02:33] but dunno if you have one :) [02:33] well, evo just dies in the arse on startup atm [02:34] utch === jdub pulls tb [02:34] how nice, they have just changed the context menu in 2.1.6 this week [02:35] and they have dropped the "mark as read/..." options [02:36] http://rafb.net/paste/results/WCWThy30.html [02:36] with a working proxy ? [02:37] nice, I get the same with the IP of a non-proxy box as proxy [02:37] this is on startup [02:37] thanks [02:37] eds crashes, then evo crashes [02:37] i have webcal stuff [02:37] and it's opening the calendar at startup [02:37] and if you don't use a proxy ? [02:37] I guess that fixes the issue [02:37] heh [02:37] suck :) [02:37] no crash [02:37] yep, that's it [02:38] thanks :) [02:39] oh [02:39] found another nice calendar bug [02:40] if you assign a colour to Personal, a new calendar is created [02:40] restart, and you have two Personal calendars [02:40] the real one still doesn't have a colour ;) [02:41] I don't get this one [02:41] my default calendar has a color [02:41] and I can change it [02:42] works fine here [02:43] proxy or color ? [02:43] color === eruin [~eruin@eruin.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel === srbaker [~srbaker@blk-222-52-156.eastlink.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:31] anyone here know if i can get the extended life battery for the X20 ? [03:31] or is it only the X40? === Safari_Al [~tr@ppp51-83.lns1.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Benoni [~liblit@ppp-68-249-85-169.dsl.mdsnwi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:40] Where would I find the Kerberos 5 command line tools (e.g. "kinit") for Ubuntu Hoary? === wasabi [~wasabi@c-24-1-67-127.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:57] Question withdrawn: #ubuntu folks pointed me at the "universe" repository. === thierry [~t@modemcable221.10-202-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:25] http://www.martianrock.com/ [04:57] I'd like to fix ubuntu bug 3176 but I don't know where to make the changes in the firefox source... any ideas? === jbailey [~jbailey@CPE000ded9d787c-CM014260028338.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === BlackHussar [~BlackHuss@dsl081-081-225.lax1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pvh [~pvh@S010600121729b5b8.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:14] I recently updated Hoary and I noticed there was some gui integration of power management mentioned in a config file, but I have not seen any evidence of it in Ubuntu itself. [06:14] i just upgraded and noticed my laptop has a suspect feature in the logoff screen [06:15] scared to try it. ;) === wasabi gives it a go! [06:15] wasabi: Bye! [06:15] wow, it went to sleep, [06:15] <---- over there [06:15] wasabi: Hmm. I wonder why mine didn't show up. [06:15] but that's nothing new [06:15] the real question is can it wake up [06:16] wasabi: Did you sleep or hibernate? [06:16] suspend. [06:16] no idea [06:16] I can suspend as long as my wireless card isn't in the machine. [06:16] it's not waking up. it looks turned off now. [06:16] but the power button doesn't work [06:16] Huh. [06:16] naw, caps lock light works. [06:16] Oh! [06:16] it's just not waking up [06:17] Move your mouse? [06:17] not even responding to pings [06:17] Did it suspend fully? [06:17] yeah. it did. [06:17] then I tried to wake it [06:17] It hasn't been able to wake up since I used some guys custom kernel a year ago [06:17] What kind of laptop? [06:18] iBook2 [06:18] Ah, beyond my ken. [06:20] pvh: log out dialogue [06:21] elmo: see the changelog for gcc-3.3_1:3.3.2ds0-0pre0: [06:21] * Change ix86 default CPU type for code generation: [06:21] - i386-linux -> i486-linux [06:21] [06:21] jdub: Yes, it's not in there. [06:21] pvh: you probably haven't restarted gnome-session since upgrading [06:21] elmo: 12 Aug 2003 [06:21] jdub: I have, many times. :) [06:22] check /etc/default/acpi-support settings [06:22] jdub: Okay, any specific file? [06:22] that's pretty specific already [06:22] Er, sorry, any specific setting .:) [06:23] delve, discover, experiment [06:23] check the patch [06:23] etc. [06:23] jdub: I'm quite familiar with the laptop settings. [06:24] jdub: I've been using the command-line to do everything for a couple months now. [06:24] jdub: I was hoping you would be referring to some line in acpi-support which I didn't have. [06:24] jdub: "like ENABLE_LOGOUT_MENU or such" [06:24] alas. [06:30] cdrecord: Warning: Running on Linux-2.6.10-3-k7 [06:30] cdrecord: There are unsettled issues with Linux-2.5 and newer. [06:30] cdrecord: If you have unexpected problems, please try Linux-2.4 or Solaris. [06:30] WTH? === lamont sleeps === Sparhawk_ [~sparhawk@c-24-14-121-93.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === stub [~stub@dsl-246.248.240.220.dsl.comindico.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Sparhawk_ [~sparhawk@c-24-14-121-93.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === buga is now known as buga-awak === buga-awak is now known as buga-away === Burgundavia [~Burgundav@S0106000000cc07fc.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:22] jdub: What's up with #twisted? :) === dilinger [dilinger@mouth.voxel.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Benoni [~liblit@ppp-68-249-85-169.dsl.mdsnwi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:52] morning [08:52] morning :-) [08:52] hey crimsun [08:53] 'lo sivang [08:53] crimsun: what's up? working on kubuntu? [08:53] actually extracting some patches from beep-media-player's release_0_9_7_1 branch [08:54] yourself? === mako [mako@micha.hampshire.edu] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:56] crimsun: just woke up, after about 3 hours of sleep, couldn't continue sleeping though :) [08:56] crimsun: oh goody, I will test them, I wanted to get beep since I first saw it over a freind's house 2 days ago :) [08:56] sivang: sunlight too bright? ;-) [08:57] crimsun: hehe, not even that. you know, it happens sometime, doubts, thoughts, fears for the future - they can sometime keep you up :) [08:57] sivang: true :-) === sid77 [~sid77@ppp-160-169.30-151.libero.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:59] hi [08:59] 'lo [09:00] >_< [09:01] hey dilinger [09:01] oops [09:01] hey sid77 [09:01] yup === abelli [~abelli@host-84-222-39-20.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === carlos [~carlos@host217-37-231-28.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sabdfl [~mark@host217-37-231-28.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === carlos [~carlos@host217-37-231-28.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mpt_london [~mpt@host217-37-231-28.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Burgundavia [~Burgundav@S0106000000cc07fc.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:10] jdub: for future reference, the answer to pvh's PM question was that he needs to set RESUME= in /etc/mkinitrd/mkinitrd.conf and regenerate the initrd === winkle [~winkle@lgh3814234.vittran.norrnod.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel === x4m [~max@138-238.240.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ironwolf [~ironwolf@c-24-6-169-124.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === doko [~doko___@dsl-084-059-032-218.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mirak [~mirak@AAubervilliers-152-1-8-144.w82-121.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === opi [~emil@195.69.82.35] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mpt_london [~mpt@host217-37-231-28.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === carlos [~carlos@host217-37-231-28.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Goshawk [~Goshawk@host108-98.pool8251.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === macewan [~macewan@ip68-101-19-222.nc.hr.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tp_ [~tp@cpc2-leed1-4-0-cust93.ldst.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mpt_london [~mpt@host217-37-231-28.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tp__ [~tp@cpc2-leed1-4-0-cust93.ldst.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === GheRivero [~ghe@81.172.88.96] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:12] anybody know any wireless dropping not able to reconnect problems with hoary (ibm t42, new install) [12:12] res people === opi [~emil@195.69.82.35] has joined #ubuntu-devel === carlos [~carlos@host217-37-231-28.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:39] is daniels there === rubenv [~lambda1@83-134-129-16.Leuven.GoPlus.FastDSL.tiscali.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:41] tp__: do you have netapplet installed? [12:41] hey rubenv [12:41] doesn't look like it [12:42] hey sabdfl [12:42] sivang! [12:43] sabdfl: just rebooting the laptop so I can get my network back. :-) [12:43] sabdfl: Yes Mark, Did I do anything wrong? :-) [12:43] sabdfl: finished burning daily live, will give it a couple of runs now :) [12:43] sabdfl: goodmorning [12:44] not afaik, except maybe forgetting to enjoy the sunshine on a sunday. i'm in london, there is no sunshine, that's my excuse [12:44] rubenv: i've been hacking on the bounty tracker this weekend [12:44] sabdfl: sunny in leeds here but inside working :-( [12:44] sabdfl: is it running on the dogfood thing? [12:45] now allows for subscriptions to bounties, so people can keep up to date with a bounty [12:45] sabdfl: i've been thinking about interface details, perhaps I should write em down [12:45] also, beginnings of ability to link a bounty to projects, products or distros [12:45] subscriptions don't actually do anything, but in future will have email notifications [12:45] sabdfl: excellent, tracking is what makes bugzilla kick arse, it's definitely something needed in bounties [12:45] sabdfl: oh well, not that sunny here currently, it's getting couldy, the short term summer we've had is ending as it seems :) [12:46] sabdfl: yes I do have netapplet installed [12:46] it's sunny here, but the pool is still frozen, i'd rather not go outside now ;-) [12:46] tp__: it's crackful, remove it from your panel [12:46] ok cheers!! [12:46] rubenv: you in .au right? [12:46] see if that helps [12:46] sivang: .be [12:47] sabdfl: I'll send some of my sunshine down if it works ;-) === seb128 [~seb128@ANancy-151-1-34-198.w83-196.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:47] rubenv: oh, EU right? [12:47] seb128: Bon Jour :) [12:47] wish i was in .au, then i could go to ubuntu down under (well, if university stops bugging me :)) [12:47] sivang: belgium, a neighbour country of germany :-) [12:48] afternoon [12:48] rubenv: I just wasn't sure about .be being belguim, but I know where it is :) [12:48] sabdfl: I really wish I had the time to poke around with zope, stupid university [12:48] well, not stupid, important but annoying :-) [12:48] sabdfl: is the bounties tracker already available from the launchpad domain? [12:50] sabdfl: we'll also need to find a way to insert mockups etc, like gnome does, I really like those [12:51] sabdfl: starting to look very neat === rubenv out to study [12:52] seb128: http://muse.19inch.net/~sivan/g-c-m/ :-) [12:54] sabdfl: are we going to support KDE in rosetta also? (thinking of launchpad integration into the desktop implications) [12:55] I think Rosetta is needed also for KDE [12:55] sivang: i believe so, yes [12:55] given it's in main and all ;) [12:56] what's the advantage of rosetta? KDE is already translated into oodles of langauges? [12:56] Riddell, some projects aren't :) [12:56] Riddell, it won't hurt to have something for a quick help [12:57] Riddell, and this translation will be commited upstream, so project authors will be happy :-) === boglot [~logbot@gw.workaround.org] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:58] Riddell: mainly just having a central co-ordination prospect. even assuming the world is kde, it means you don't need an account for kde, all of the external kde apps, d-bus, gstreamer, etc, etc. [12:58] daniels: do you mind if I ask about your x40 package. Have people provided feedback on whether it works for t42? === psy__ [~psy@a80-126-83-214.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === remi` [~remi@carnot-1-81-57-12-51.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:02] tp__: sure -- dunno, should just work out of the box without my packages [01:03] tp__: thanks.. it's the suspend to disk I'm looking at.. I'll play some more to see where I can get :-) [01:03] daniels: ermm.. :-) [01:04] dunno about StD, to be honest [01:04] never used it [01:05] daniels: do you just power off? or suspend to ram? [01:05] tp__: str has always worked fine for me [01:06] daniels: thanks again [01:18] daniels: that's what I feard :) oh well, hard work is good for you. === carlos [~carlos@host217-37-231-28.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:30] hi carlos [01:30] hi === Nafallo [~nafallo@nafallo.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nasdaq|away [~sdfsdfs@tkp-ip-nas-1-p197.telkom-ipnet.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mpt_london [~mpt@host217-37-231-28.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tp__ [~tp@cpc2-leed1-4-0-cust93.ldst.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jdub boggles at #7229 === nasdaq [~sdfsdfs@tkp-ip-nas-1-p197.telkom-ipnet.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:52] could someone explain me differences between abiword, abiword-common, abiword-gnome? [01:53] abiword-common is used by both [01:53] abiword-gnome is built against gnome libs [01:54] mmm... ahh right so the difference is in the "GTK2", and "GTK2/GNOME2" [01:54] jdub: thank you [01:54] ;) === martink [~martin@linux-tage.tu-chemnitz.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zul [~chuck@CPE0006258ec6c2-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:42] jdub: ping [02:42] sup [02:42] not much you? [02:43] Guys, I am pretty sure that pango is slow as crap in hoary right now. I can't be dreaming this. [02:43]