/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2005/03/18/#ubuntu.txt

=== DnaDog [~si@cpc2-inch1-4-0-cust200.dbln.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu
JDahlknucks, OTOH, you probably wanted to switch to hoary soon anyway12:00
Funraiserdid u check the link knucks?12:00
=== revildab [~dunno@pcp0010243794pcs.lpaxtn01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
knucksyeh confusin for me12:00
knuckswhy sint my printer showing up tho12:00
knucksI need that to work12:01
=== WildRabbit [~WildRabbi@adsl7-69.simnet.is] has joined #ubuntu
=== Karlosis [~kay@p50838780.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu
knucksand why do i get a feeling that im on kde now not on gnome?12:03
knucksWhy is there a KDE control panel under APPS12:03
romUBlol12:03
Riddellknucks: APPS?12:03
knucksapplications12:03
Funraiserapplicatons12:03
Xappeknucks, have you installed k3b?12:04
knucksXappe: yeh12:04
Xappethere you have it :)12:04
Xappethen you've almost installed KDE too12:05
Funraiseran editor is to make a shell script?12:05
knucksbut i like gnome12:05
knucksnoo12:05
Riddellknucks: having KControl as ShowOnlyIn=KDE is on my todo list12:05
Xappeknucks, you're still on gnome12:05
knuckswell that control centre is bothering me12:05
Xappedon't click on it then12:06
Xappe:)12:06
romUBis there a way to overwrite all the system files with the latest hoary ones (like reinstalling but not losing any data files)12:06
gmaanybody here running with LVM?12:06
cwilluthat's basically what apt-get does, rom12:06
romUBhmm12:06
romUBok12:07
=== IvyCQHome [~Sir@c906a0a6.virtua.com.br] has joined #ubuntu
Funraiserwhat can I use on gnome to make a shell script? what's the editor?12:07
cwilluanybody know how to get multiple monitors working?12:07
gmaromUB, change your sources.list to point to hoary and do "apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade"12:07
cwillugedit12:07
cwilluor whatever else tickles your fancy12:07
romUBgma, ok thanks12:07
fiskgunnarWhen using apt-get or synaptic, does it matter if u got other stuff running, like x-chat and realplayer?12:07
=== Kuqakz [WZAfDeV@213.150.176.98] has joined #ubuntu
djpFunraiser: use gedit12:08
knuckswow this isnt stable at all!12:08
Funraiseroh12:08
gmafiskgunnar, nope, not at all12:08
spaceyfiskgunnar, notfor me12:08
fiskgunnaroki,thanks12:08
knucksWTF12:08
Xappeknucks, and you've rebooted after upgrade?12:08
knucksthis sucks12:08
=== Navid [~chatzilla@ip68-225-230-249.oc.oc.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu
cwilluknucks...12:08
knucks(no)12:08
gmarunning apps are loaded into RAM and you can freely change the libs on disk without causing them a problem12:08
knuckshaha12:08
stazichhey12:08
fiskgunnaroff to install firestarter then :)12:08
cwilluI've found that acpi causes problems, but I dunno if that's your issue12:09
djpknucks: i switched back from hoary to warty due to certain issues12:09
cwillumy laptop was crashing left and right until I got a kernel running without it12:09
stazichcan anyone tell me how to mount a network folder i am sharing on my WinXP onto ubuntu??12:09
=== lupusBE [~lupus@dD577294F.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu
=== gino4466 [gino@pcp0010508594pcs.riogrd01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
NavidHi Folks. I am having a ton of trouble installing CVS even after I have su'ed to root.12:10
djpemulators under ubuntu anyone?12:10
gino4466any way i can speed up gnome? because ever since i installed hoary it's been sluggish. back in warty it was quick and snappy, so there must be something wrong here, because hoary just can't suck that much12:10
NavidCan anyone help me out? I am trying to install everything I need to be able to compile through gcc, et al.12:10
JDahlnavid, sudo apt-get install cvs12:10
=== Sparhawk_ [~sparhawk@c-24-14-121-93.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== knucks [~chatzilla@pcp01189996pcs.waldlk01.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
knuckswhoa..12:10
Funraiserknucks i got it for mplayer12:10
JDahlnavid, sudo apt-get install build-essential12:10
knucksits all weird now12:10
NavidJDahl: That's all!? I'm going to have to try this.12:11
Funraiserknucks i got it for mplayer12:11
knuckseh?12:11
Funraisergo back to http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=9850&highlight=mplayer12:11
Funraiserthen open a terminal and type gedit12:11
johanedjp: what do you want to emulate?12:11
djphoary is bleeding edge so to speak a bit like fc3. i loved fc3 but am loving ubuntu just as much. just sticking with warty for now as that is the most stable release at present and that is what i want!12:11
djpjohane: megadrive/genesis12:12
Funraisera window will open12:12
NavidJDahl: It seems to going. I love you.12:12
djpFunraiser: that was the best way i found to install mplayer.12:13
Funraisercopy past what's the code in that new window that open12:13
knucksdjp u on warty or hoary?12:13
stazichcan anyone tell me how to mount a network folder i am sharing on my WinXP onto ubuntu??12:13
=== Karlosis [~kay@p50838780.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu
NavidWhere can I get a full list of apt-get available packages?!12:13
djpknucks: warty12:13
JDahlNavid, yes - I am a peach12:13
romUBstazich, samaba (sudo apt-get install samba)12:13
zenroxstazich,  read www.ubuntuguide.org12:13
NavidAnd look at that, sudo apt-get install gcc is running like a charm12:14
knucksFunraiser: i copied..now what?12:14
Funraiseri mean copy/paste the code on that web site in the new window that open when u type "gedit" in the console12:14
djpknucks: the mplayer link will work for you under hoary as well though12:14
knucksok12:14
Funraisernow save it as mplayer.sh12:14
=== CicalaMvta [~Cicala@chello080109002146.13.14.vie.surfer.at] has joined #ubuntu
knucksthen what12:14
Funraiserand now in the terminal type sudo sh mplayer.sh12:14
djpjohane: any advice?12:15
=== GodKiller [~SATANIS@Ottawa-HSE-ppp4076267.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu
cwilluhow do I configure ssh to let me login remotely?12:15
knucksooo12:15
knucksok12:15
knucksdoing it now12:15
Funraisercool12:15
GoneBoBcwillu: sudo apt-get install ssh12:15
Funraiserthanks djp12:15
cwilluI've got that far12:15
cwilluI think12:15
GodKillerok can or is anyone willing to help me with some sound issues??12:15
GoneBoBcwillu: that will automatically start ssh etc12:15
zenroxcwillu,  read www.ubuntuguide.org12:16
cwilluopenssh-client / server's been installed12:16
knucksChecking for cc version ... not found12:16
knucksChecking for gcc version ... not found12:16
knucksChecking for gcc-3.3 version ... not found12:16
knucksChecking for gcc-3.2 version ... not found12:16
knucksChecking for gcc-3.1 version ... not found12:16
knucksChecking for gcc3 version ... not found12:16
knucksChecking for gcc-3.0 version ... not found12:16
knucksChecking for cc version ... not found12:16
knucksi got those errors tho12:16
djpfunraiser: no probs12:16
knucksbut it finished12:16
JDahlknucks, sudo apt-get install build-essential12:16
Funraiserunknown territory...12:16
NavidI have a feeling sudo apt-get upgrade gaim didn't do what I expected it to...12:16
xun5knucks, use pastebin12:16
cwillulol12:16
=== oly [~oly@host81-129-52-203.range81-129.btcentralplus.com] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
knucksxun5 ok..12:16
cwillunavid... I think you just wanted install gaim12:17
=== TongMaster [~TongMaste@home.waugh.id.au] has joined #ubuntu
Funraiserthis is like a recipe...everybody is bringing it's touch12:17
cwilluor maybe not12:17
GodKillermy soundcard is detected and installed at boot up but i get absolutely no sound out of the system at all12:17
Navidwell, Ubuntu comes with Gaim 1.0.0 but 1.1.4 is out now.. I wanted to upgrade not install.12:17
knucksgodkiller: what card?12:17
=== Kraeloc [~kyle@dsl231-047-166.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu
GodKilleress maestro 312:17
KraelocI have warty set up to act as a router for a mac, connected via second PCI NIC, eth2. But the eth2 connection won't stay active in the network settings.12:17
=== OMarin [cnezbr@200.97.63.144] has joined #ubuntu
=== OC_AFK is now known as Omniscient_Colos
=== Omniscient_Colos is now known as OmniColos
GodKillerthe mixer is good mp3 play on xmms but not a peep not even at login or system sounds .....nothing12:18
seb128Navid: "upgrade" is to upgrade the distribution and doesn't take an argument12:18
KraelocHelp...?12:18
seb128Navid: "sudo apt-get install gaim" is to upgrade gaim12:18
FunraiserIf you see the program start up - SUCCESS.12:18
FunraiserInsert a DVD. Push the DVD play button (not the |> button).12:18
FunraiserThe movie should start to play. Check the sound quality. Close out the MPlayer program. The Root Terminal window will close.12:18
NavidIt said "Already have latest version ..12:18
gino4466the newest gaim in the official repositories is 1.012:18
gino4466i think12:18
Navidbut gaim --version shows Gaim 1.0.012:18
seb128Navid: warty has 1.0.012:18
gino4466they dont have the new version packaged for apt-get12:18
knucksi cant seem to add it to the menu tho12:18
seb128Navid: warty is 2004-1012:19
NavidI got it.12:19
JDahlnavid, warty only gives you security updates12:19
NavidI have to wait for the changes to be pushed over?12:19
Funraiserknucks look back to the web site it's explained12:19
knucksyeh i cant seem to get that workin12:19
JDahlNavid, yes.12:19
KraelocI have warty set up to act as a router for a mac, connected via second PCI NIC, eth2. But the eth2 connection won't stay active in the network settings.12:19
=== gma [~graham@capella.plus.com] has joined #ubuntu
seb128Navid: there is some backports for warty, or you can use hoary, but hoary is not stable yet12:19
KraelocI DEMAND THAT SOMEBODY HELP ME.12:19
gino4466hahahaha12:20
Funraiserlol12:20
NavidAt my level of experience, I'm going to stick with stable.12:20
Funraiserthat's desperate12:20
Kraeloc... please ...?12:20
ChipzzKraeloc: lol, you're funny :)12:20
=== hayden [~hayden@203-219-130-10-qld.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
GodKillerknucks> did you have some input or were you just wondering what card ?12:20
knuckswell depends i guess12:20
knucksmight be able to help if i know what card12:20
=== wHisKy- [vampyre@m58.net81-67-104.noos.fr] has joined #ubuntu
GodKilleress allegro maestro 312:21
=== SiRrUs [~SiRrUs@HSE-MTL-ppp77407.qc.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu
GodKillerversion 198812:21
Funraiserso mplayer works?12:21
GodKilleryup12:21
KraelocI have warty set up to act as a router for a mac, connected via second PCI NIC, eth2. But the eth2 connection won't stay active in the network settings.12:21
GodKillerbut the sound doesnt come out12:21
zenroxFunraiser,  as long as you compile it your self12:21
KraelocDo I have to sacrifice a goat or seomthing?12:21
knucksFunraiser: not yet..12:21
JDahlKraeloc, how did you set it up? manually via /etc/network/interfaces?12:21
Funraiserhello SiRrus12:21
SiRrUsYo :)12:21
KraelocI followed a howto... lemme get the link12:21
=== neuro[ingress] [~neuro@neuro.me.uk] has joined #ubuntu
=== plex0r_ [~plex0r@adsl-219-156-58.aep.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== OmniColossus [~Omniscien@adsl-68-72-120-4.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu
Kraelochttp://ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/other-formats/html_single/Masquerading-Simple-HOWTO.html12:22
JDahl(of course you could just cough up $30 for a router)12:22
KraelocI was also helped by a deosmn in ##mac12:22
KraelocI.12:22
=== neuro[ingress] is now known as neuro_
KraelocI'm dirt broke.12:22
GodKillerheh12:23
GodKilleri just want some sound12:23
KraelocI have a router, but I only get one port on it bewteen the two computers.12:23
knucksFunraiser: whats the location it installed it in?12:23
KraelocHoly shit.12:23
Funraiserzenrox u mean that shell script does the compiling?12:23
GodKillerthats a nice little split12:23
=== mumak [~jml@ppp111-55.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu
gino4466so back to the reason i came here12:23
Funraiserknucks just do Applications -> Multimedia -> (go to the right pane, right click) -> Entire Menu -> Add New Item To This Menu ->12:23
FunraiserName: MPlayer12:23
FunraiserGeneric Name: Media Player12:23
FunraiserComment: The Media Player12:23
FunraiserCommand: /usr/local/bin/gmplayer12:23
knucksFunraiser: whers the location where mplayer is?12:23
SiRrUsmust have been something I said12:23
FunraiserHit the "No Icon" button12:23
gino4466my menus and stuff in gnome are all sluggish12:23
KraelocDid anyone else just notice some 50 people quit simaltaneously?12:23
FunraiserFind the "media-player-48.png" picture, select it, hit the "OK" button.12:23
FunraiserHit the "OK" button12:23
knucksyeh i tried browsing to there i cant find it12:23
gino4466and i have no idea why, because they were snappy in warty12:24
=== netjoined: irc.freenode.net -> benford.freenode.net
=== Karlosis [~kay@p50838780.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu
gino4466>_<12:24
=== xabier [~xabier@85.84.29.110] has joined #ubuntu
Kraelocanyone?12:24
=== Burgundavia [~Burgundav@S0106000000cc07fc.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu
mjrKraeloc, netsplit (irc sucks)12:24
knucksmy usr/local/bin is empty12:24
Funraiseris this a strike?12:24
Kraelocok, so anyone got any ideas for me?12:24
=== underlord [~underlord@c211-30-117-126.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
=== _mage_work [~mage@CPE-144-136-44-198.vic.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu
=== virtuald [danielh@tsukasa.networksolutions.se] has joined #ubuntu
=== Xenguy [~gnu@xenarchy.ca] has joined #ubuntu
=== ctr [~boris@white.ruled.org] has joined #ubuntu
=== chibifs [~chibifs@pcp0010567521pcs.monroe01.mi.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu []
=== jinx_ [~jinx@82.152.31.25] has joined #ubuntu
=== lavigj [~largo@pcp03303349pcs.ypwest01.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== pusling [~pusling@195.215.29.124] has joined #ubuntu
haydenwhats the best way to use smbmount?>12:25
=== thenuke [~thenuke@a84-231-112-254.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu
=== zxy_ [~ralph@host217-43-242-135.range217-43.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== johnnybezak [~johnnybez@203-173-46-207.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu
=== GoneBoB is now known as HrdwrBoB
=== pippin [~pippin@bilk.XCF.Berkeley.EDU] has joined #ubuntu
=== odo [odo@kapsi.fi] has joined #ubuntu
=== fajmoh [fajmoh@h237n2fls31o1009.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu
haydendw12:26
Funraiserhold on12:26
=== shock [~shockwave@dsl-082-082-159-129.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu
OmniColossusdoes anyone have experience using WPA with ubuntu?12:26
KraelocI have warty set up to act as a router for a mac, connected via second PCI NIC, eth2. But the eth2 connection won't stay active in the network settings.12:26
KraelocI was serious about tha goat, yaknow.12:27
haydencan anyone help me with this problem? Can't get /etc/mtab~ lock filesmbmnt failed: 112:27
zenroxKraeloc, yep you must or the ubuntu god wont like you12:27
zenroxlol12:27
knucksError: PNG support required for GUI compilation, please install libpng and libpng-dev packages.12:27
Kraelocok.12:27
Funraisertry to reboot and then applications/run application type mplayer12:27
GodKillerwell goodbye warty12:27
Funraiser(?)12:27
KraelocMy neighbors a few houses down keeps goats, I'll go buy one.12:27
cowbudknucks: so apt-get install libpng-dev12:28
KarlosisOmniColossus, I do12:28
=== ironwolf [~ironwolf@c-24-6-169-124.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
knucksyepp..12:28
zenroxKraeloc, lol12:28
KraelocShall I take pictures as proof?12:28
KraelocOr set up a webcam?12:28
knuckscowbud: cant find it12:28
OmniColossusKarlosis oh! finally SOMEONE!12:28
zenroxKraeloc,  webcam12:28
GodKillergonna try the hoary thing12:28
zenroxlol12:28
SiRrUsgood luck12:28
knuckswell i got libpng-dev12:28
OmniColossusKarlosis, powerpc by chnace?12:29
KarlosisOmniColossus, just try wpasupplicant12:29
KarlosisThis package will do WPA in userspace.... quite easy to setup12:29
GodKilleris the hoary any different than the warty rls??12:29
OmniColossusI have a airport (not extreme) wpasup does not seem to support?12:29
=== tritium [~rimbert@12-202-90-180.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== fleebailey33 [~andy@c-67-163-138-215.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
knucksError: X11 support required for GUI compilation12:29
KarlosisI believe it's the kernel that needs to support it, OmniColossus12:30
OmniColossushmm12:30
=== BobaFett [~felipe@pc-16-44-83-200.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== justdave [~dave@66.227.241.236.gha.mi.chartermi.net] has joined #ubuntu
Funraiserreboot12:30
KarlosisOmniColossus, do you see anything on the iwconfig ?12:30
knucks<me?12:30
KraelocI have warty set up to act as a router for a mac, connected via second PCI NIC, eth2. But the eth2 connection won't stay active in the network settings.12:30
OmniColossuswhen I ran wpasupp it said something about not being able to open prism something12:30
=== Gatu [~gatu@ppp-62-245-208-130.mnet-online.de] has left #ubuntu ["Client]
Funraiserdid u do it since the hoary upgrade?12:31
OmniColossusiwconfig sees the card yes12:31
gino4466anyone know any reasons why gnome menus and windows would lag when opening and be generally sluggish, when they were snappy and quick in warty?12:31
knucksFunraiser: I got an error12:31
KarlosisOmniColossus, it has drivers i believe, make sure the config names the correct one12:31
JDahlknucks, what are you trying to do? compile mplayer?12:31
knucksyeah12:31
knucksit tells me i need x11 support12:31
OmniColossusI'll give it another shot... I have xsupplicant installed atm12:31
=== Chand [~chand@ABordeaux-151-1-18-225.w83-203.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu
BobaFettHey guys...Anyone recommends a MP3 player better than XMMS?12:32
JDahlknucks, apt-cache search x11-dev12:32
=== OMarin is now known as _Ausente
=== _Ausente est away - to jantando - Desde:20:34:02 (CebScript)
gino4466what's wrong with xmms?12:32
BobaFettNothings wrong with XMMS :P I was just wondering if there was a better player...12:32
=== thierry [~t@modemcable221.10-202-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu
BobaFett...better playlist support, perhaps even embedded cd ripping and burning...12:33
gino4466oh well in that case12:33
gino4466No.12:33
BobaFettOh.12:33
gino4466actually i dunno, don't listen to me12:33
BobaFettI see.12:33
gino4466lol12:33
BobaFettLOL12:33
knucksJDahl: still same thing12:33
knucks X11 support required for GUI compilation12:33
BobaFettWill do, then xD12:33
=== crimsun [~crimsun@crimsun.silver.supporter.pdpc] has joined #ubuntu
gino4466by the way, your shoes are untied12:33
=== rriche [~rriche@S01060050bae71bb0.pk.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu
BobaFettI know...I walk on the wild side 8)12:33
=== calc [~ccheney@ip70-185-4-246.ma.dl.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu
rricheanyone know of a util for extracting the contents of a .bin?  something like isobuster?12:34
danielswhy are you trying to compile mplayer?  there are packages12:34
=== Mr_Milenko [Mr_Milenko@69-173-211-239.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu
JDahlknucks, apt-cache search x11-dev gives you a hint of what to install - in this case libx11-dev, xlibs-dev :P12:34
knucksoo ok12:34
knuckslol12:34
NavidCan someone help me decipher what "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem' means in regards to sudo apt-get install ant12:34
Navid?12:34
gino4466did you interrupt it at all?12:35
HrdwrBoBNavid: it means you should run dpkg --configure -a12:35
gino4466not to overstate the obvious ;)12:35
hilerriche: bchunk12:35
=== errr [~errr@24-155-100-66.dyn.grandenetworks.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== ells [~steve@69-171-78-149.clspco.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu
rrichehile: thx12:35
=== jason^ [jason@acs-24-154-127-188.zoominternet.net] has joined #ubuntu
Navidha. No, I didn't interrupt it. I just wanted to learn what it meant.12:35
ellstritium: I am back12:36
tritiumHello ells12:36
zenroxhile, bin2iso will convert bin and cue to an iso that cam be mounter12:36
ellstritium: so far so good with the upgrade12:36
NavidSuprisingly, ant is not part of the apt-get repository.12:36
tritiumells, I'm glad to hear it.12:36
=== iceaxe18 [~iceaxe18@c-24-18-111-235.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
ellsjust have to configure my stuff12:36
ellsthe dvds wont play yet12:36
ellswill check settings12:36
knucksJDahl: The GUI requires GTK devel packages (which were not found).12:36
knucksARGH12:36
ellstritium: are you connecting via laptop12:36
=== StoneTable [~stone@c-67-184-135-68.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== smo [~soneil@smo.active.supporter.pdpc] has joined #ubuntu
Funraiserthose are in synaptic12:37
tritiumells, yes12:37
=== maxxist [~Maxxist@S0106000c4134d382.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== Ex-Cyber [~excyber@cpe-024-211-182-083.nc.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== bluefoxicy [~bluefox@pcp484848pcs.whtmrs01.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
ellsare you using a network tool to find avail networks12:37
=== billytwowilly [~chris@S0106000c413a2c0c.ed.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== ben_d [~ben@cpe-66-66-209-96.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== hypa7ia [~leigh@69.156.150.156] has joined #ubuntu
knucksfunraiser: what are they called12:37
BobaFettguys...Anyone recommends a MP3 player better than XMMS?12:37
=== gdb [~cbell@circe.inetdb.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== lupusBE [~lupus@dD577294F.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu
=== NetwrkMonkey [~Monkey@netwrkmonkey.user] has joined #ubuntu
Funraisergtk12:37
=== cshah2 [~~@4.16.31.198] has joined #ubuntu
=== paulproteus [~paulprote@h-67-102-97-191.mclnva23.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== moyogo [~moyogo@Toronto-HSE-ppp3717779.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu
=== EfaistOs [~efaistos@m239.net81-64-31.noos.fr] has joined #ubuntu
tritiumells, yeah, netapplet12:37
=== jesus\ [~jesus_@86.50-201-80.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu
=== pussfeller [~yootis@adsl-69-208-136-115.dsl.ipltin.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== larsson_ [~larsson@h164n3c1o285.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== tremor [~tremor@d54C39D40.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu
ellsworks good for ya12:37
=== cory- [~cory@ppp-69-215-99-177.dsl.bcvloh.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu
JDahlknucks, so install libgtk2.0-dev, or libgtk1.2-dev12:37
ellsdid you apt get it12:37
=== LinuxJones [~LinuxJone@blk-222-206-208.eastlink.ca] has joined #ubuntu
=== gurran [~gurran@c-7bdbe055.544-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu
=== guerby [~guerby@d83-177-132-108.cust.tele2.fr] has joined #ubuntu
=== acs [~acs@a83-132-170-121.netcabo.pt] has joined #ubuntu
=== PhantomCircuit [~PhantomCi@adsl-63-206-119-165.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu
Funraiseru will see many , among them the devel12:38
PhantomCircuitwget -b http://members.lycos.co.uk/PhantomCircuit/test.txt12:38
=== Wolven [~ion@c5100A7C5.sdsl.catch.no] has joined #ubuntu
=== rem [~rem@adsl-98-72-zh1.tiscali.ch] has joined #ubuntu
tritiumells, yes12:38
PhantomCircuitwould download that file right?12:38
ellscool12:38
knucksdo u know the name12:38
knucks?12:38
=== e-Jah [~ejah@bob75-1-82-234-73-118.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu
Funraiserlibgtk2.0-dev12:38
=== sahin_h [~sahin@143.147-183-adsl-pool.axelero.hu] has joined #ubuntu
=== Xappe [~jon@regulus3.student.UU.SE] has joined #ubuntu
=== Quest-Master [~qmaster@c-24-99-26-36.atl.client2.attbi.com] has joined #ubuntu
Funraiserand libgtk1.2-dev12:39
knucksthanks12:39
Funraiserwell thanks to JDahl actually12:39
=== tims [~tims@c-24-21-58-44.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== _Ausente is now known as OMarin
=== OMarin voltou do away - s 20:41:49 - Ficou Away por 7mins 47secs
knucksugh this is taking forever!12:40
Funraiserthis installation for mplayer is...12:40
=== SiRrUs [~SiRrUs@HSE-MTL-ppp77407.qc.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu
Funraiserthat what i was about to say12:40
rrichethx again hile, exactly what i was looking for.12:40
knucksare u still isntalling urs?12:40
knucksor are u done?12:40
neomgrrrrrrr12:40
Funraiserbut u are learning a lot12:40
=== cef [~cef@c211-28-9-44.thoms1.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
neomroot@stix:/home/neom # mv kde.png /mnt/stix/12:41
neommv: cannot create regular file `/mnt/stix/kde.png': Permission denied12:41
neomroot@stix:/home/neom #12:41
=== petroleum [~petroleum@dsl-80-43-79-113.access.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu
Funraiseri'm not, realplayer, xine and totem player are fine for me so far12:41
neomHow the fuck can root have permisson denied. :|12:41
knuckso ok12:41
Funraiserlol12:41
knuckslol @ neom12:41
=== tck [~tck@213-202-185-97.bas504.dsl.esat.net] has joined #ubuntu
Funraiserubuntu is very secure, even root has not all rights12:42
djpfunraiser: how do you play vcd/svcd with totem?12:42
JDahloh dear! neom ran something as root... he is in for the treatment of his life!!12:42
tckdjp, try xine-ui12:42
=== JFUtpd [~Xkvjfpsu@67.141.140.243] has joined #ubuntu
neomye ye12:42
knucksthis is takin fuckin forever12:43
knucksanyone else compile mplayer on their hoary ?12:43
=== membreya [~membreya@c211-28-78-53.sunsh3.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
=== DnaDog [~si@cpc2-inch1-4-0-cust200.dbln.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== mxpxpod [~bryan@cetn-01-0409.dsl.iowatelecom.net] has joined #ubuntu
djptck: totem does not work with vcd/svcd cd's? looks like xine will have to enter the fray then!12:43
tckknucks, it doesnt work for me properly even on warty12:43
tckxine-ui is great12:43
knucksthis better not be a waste of my time12:43
tckyou could try totem-xine12:43
knucksi got this because for instance, limewire asked for it12:43
Funraiserthe tv shows that i watch are dvdrip/xvid/avi and it works with realplayer...that's all i need12:43
tckbut gstreamer is better12:43
tckor if u want them to all work just get, vlc12:44
djptck: totem-xine installed. just don't know how to playback vcd/svcd cd's...12:44
JDahlnoone is going to lecture him about how dangerous that is? and about how much security matters even on your home machine? Things are achangin' in here12:44
=== lexhider [~lexhider@dip-220-235-84-90.vic.westnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
=== clparker [~clparker@64.106.85.7] has joined #ubuntu
Funraiserhim who JDahl?12:45
JDahlnoem who ran something as root12:45
Funraiseroh12:45
=== lexhider [~lexhider@dip-220-235-84-90.vic.westnet.com.au] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
Funraiserthat's learning experiences12:45
knucks(i run a lot of things as root)12:45
BobaFettGuys...Im having problems with my ATAPI CDRW detection...anyone configured an ASUS CDRW? I have no idea how to do it, could use some pointers...12:45
knucksO_O12:45
Funraiserlol12:46
knucksok how do i add somethin to the meny12:46
knucksthe whole right click thing aint working12:46
=== Ivy6Quaff [~Sir@c906a0a6.virtua.com.br] has joined #ubuntu
=== hayden [~hayden@203-219-130-10-qld.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
djpknucks: issue with hoary12:46
=== apokryphos [~francis@host-84-9-33-68.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu
Funraiserhere we go12:46
djpknucks: there is a small app that someone has written as a workaround...12:47
haydencan someone help me, i have an error when i try to mount a smb share, it says /etc/mtab is locked?12:47
=== netjoined: irc.freenode.net -> benford.freenode.net
=== jason^ [jason@acs-24-154-127-188.zoominternet.net] has joined #ubuntu
knucksisnt there a way to launch the applications as a window?12:47
stazichhey guiys, i seem to be having problems running the cdrom playback... ineither of the programs i have can read a cd.. in fact they are reading, and seem to be playing even pull up the CDDB entries off the net but NO SOUND COMES OUT... anyone has any idea what could be wrong?12:47
=== Seq [~chris@CPE0050bf1a898b-CM013349902353.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== errr [~errr@24-155-100-66.dyn.grandenetworks.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== Mr_Milenko [Mr_Milenko@69-173-211-239.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has left #ubuntu []
knucksso u can just right click like in a normal browser12:47
=== avirox [~avirox@pool-68-161-40-230.ny325.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== petroleum [~petroleum@dsl-80-43-79-113.access.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu
djpknucks: just launch the app from the command line12:48
=== petroleum [~petroleum@dsl-80-43-79-113.access.as9105.com] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
knucksbut i want to add it to the menu12:48
=== petroleum [~petroleum@dsl-80-43-79-113.access.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu
Funraiseryes u can do that knucks12:48
djpknucks: you need to install the workaround app12:48
Kraelochttp://ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/other-formats/html_single/Masquerading-Simple-HOWTO.html12:48
haydencan someone help me, i have an error when i try to mount a smb share, it says /etc/mtab is locked?12:48
=== ells [~steve@69-171-78-149.clspco.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu
Kraelocoops12:49
KraelocI have warty set up to act as a router for a mac, connected via second PCI NIC, eth2. But the eth2 connection won't stay active in the network settings.12:49
=== MMond [~Mond@CPE-70-92-252-37.wi.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
ellswhat is everyone using to burn dvds12:49
knuckswhats the workaround app12:49
KraelocHheheh12:49
apokryphosk3b12:49
MMondHello . . . nub linux question: in root terminal, how do I delete a folder? del folder?12:49
KraelocI have a 24x cdrom.12:49
apokryphosMMond: man rm12:49
shockrm -r folder12:49
ellsapokryphos, movie dvds?12:49
stazichhey guiys, i seem to be having problems running the cdrom playback... ineither of the programs i have can read a cd.. in fact they are reading, and seem to be playing even pull up the CDDB entries off the net but NO SOUND COMES OUT... anyone has any idea what could be wrong?12:49
apokryphosells: oh, nope.12:49
neomhttp://home.neom.ca/kde.png12:49
=== Kuri [~kurisutin@host81-152-137-38.range81-152.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu
Funraiseru got the missing libs knucks?12:50
MMondThank you12:50
ellsapokryphos, I am trying dvdrip12:50
knucksthe what?12:50
knucksfor what?12:50
ellswill see how good it is12:50
knucksim done w/ compiling12:50
apokryphosells: well, if you had it as an iso or bin etc.. you could.12:50
knucksi want to add to menu now12:50
Funraisergtklib12:50
ellsright12:50
=== Broncho [~me@adsl-66-142-27-132.dsl.mdldtx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu
Funraisertry something first12:50
djpknucks: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=16699&highlight=launcher+hoary12:51
Funraiserapplications/run applications12:51
Funraisertype gmplayer12:51
KraelocI have warty set up to act as a router for a mac, connected via second PCI NIC, eth2. But the eth2 connection won't stay active in the network settings.12:51
shockhttp://freshmeat.net/projects/privateer/ <--- has anyone gotten this thing to actually run?12:51
=== apokryphos [~apokrypho@host-84-9-33-68.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu
KraelocFOR THE LOVE OF GOD, HELP ME.12:52
KraelocI have warty set up to act as a router for a mac, connected via second PCI NIC, eth2. But the eth2 connection won't stay active in the network settings.12:52
shocki loved privateer! I remember tweaking the dos bootup & configs on my old 386 :D12:52
djpKraeloc: i would if i could...12:52
apokryphosKraeloc: how many times have you asked here?12:52
HrdwrBoBKraeloc: what do you mean stay active12:52
shockKraeloc whats up12:52
haydenKraeloc, if no one is answering that means they don't know12:52
shockok Kraeloc - whats the problem?12:53
KraelocI click the activate button, and it does so for about tw oseconds, then goes inactive.12:53
knucksdjp: how do i use that?12:53
shocki read what you are saying but it makes no sense to me12:53
=== mxpxpod [~bryan@mxpxpod.user] has joined #ubuntu
djpknucks: you need to install php-gtk first12:53
shockyou have eth0,1 and 2?12:54
=== Gervystar [~gervystar@62.94.208.119] has joined #ubuntu
shockso whats internal and whats extern12:54
=== tizen [alain@ADent8215.ResNet.Dal.Ca] has joined #ubuntu
johanedjp: uhm, nope :)12:54
KraelocNo, for some reason it decided to call them eth1 and eth212:54
shockhmkay12:54
Kraelocinternal is eth212:54
shockhow new are you to linux?12:54
Kraelocand eth1 is external12:54
djpknucks: if you scroll down the forum thread you will find a walkthrough12:54
johanei can recommend zsnes though :)12:54
neomWhat file do you have to cat to see the ubuntu build and version etc etc?12:54
Funraiserso much for "it's easier to install an app on linux than on windows.."12:54
Gervystarhi, I'm having some trouble installing hoary on a g5 imac: the installer can not detect the cdrom and so it can not continue. Any hints about that?12:55
BobaFettGuys...Im having problems with my ATAPI CDRW detection...anyone configured an ASUS CDRW? I have no idea how to do it, could use some pointers...12:55
apokryphosneom: cat /proc/version or cat /etc/issue, I guess.12:55
HrdwrBoBBobaFett: it should just work12:55
JDahlFunraiser, who said that?12:55
KraelocI'm fairly new to ubuntu, but I have some knowledge of basic unix/linux cammands and such12:55
Kraeloci followed a howto:12:55
Kraelochttp://ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/other-formats/html_single/Masquerading-Simple-HOWTO.html12:55
djpjohane: yeah zsnes is great. looks like i will have to compile gens or generator for megadrive goodness!12:55
BobaFetthrdrwrBoB: it doestn :(12:55
Funraiseri've read that somewhere12:55
shockkraeloc - check querry12:56
KraelocEh?12:56
Funraisermy asus cdrw detected automatically12:56
BobaFettIt reads just fine, but doesnt write, and Im having trouble with cdrecord -scanbus12:56
shockargh... ok12:56
Funraiserwhat model?12:57
MMondI'm editting some php files . . . what "editor" is suggested for this?12:57
MMond!ping12:57
MMondI'm editting some php files . . . what "editor" is suggested for this?12:57
djpfunraiser: ubuntu is a really good distro for a first release though12:57
=== idaho45 [~john@201.243.31.212] has joined #ubuntu
Funraiserit is12:57
Funraiserubuntu is terrific12:57
JDahlMMond, emacs, vim, gedit, ... whatever editor you know12:57
=== noflex [~noflex@D40AE672.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #ubuntu
apokryphosMMond: quanta/kate/kwrite are good12:57
Funraiseri'm about to ditch windows for good12:57
BobaFettASUS CDRW 5232X ...12:58
MMondI don't know any.. I'm a noob at Linux. However, I have heard "gedit" the mere name a lot . . . would that be good for editting php  files?12:58
djpfunraiser: only linux in this house!12:58
djpfunraiser: although a dual boot with windows does have advantages for some12:58
JDahlMMond, it's just an editor...12:58
=== Mom [~chatzilla@d14-69-5-198.try.wideopenwest.com] has joined #ubuntu
apokryphosMMond: it seems to have all the necessary highlighting for php, so it should be alright, I guess.12:59
=== billytwowilly [~chris@S0106000c413a2c0c.ed.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== Ex-Cyber [~excyber@cpe-024-211-182-083.nc.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
Xappei'm booting windows only for gameplaying12:59
Funraiserbobafett that's the same i have12:59
djpMMond: quanta plus12:59
=== bluefoxicy [~bluefox@pcp484848pcs.whtmrs01.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
Funraiserare u on warty or hoary?12:59
apokryphosMMond: Quanta is probably better as you'll have *far* more options with it etc..12:59
=== larsson_ [~larsson@h164n3c1o285.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu
MMondJDahl: vim . . . do tell me one thing. Firstly.. yes, I'm a total newb at Linux, but . . . why is that people prefer to browse through files with terminal rather than GUI ... same to view files . . . as far as I see, it's only a bit more arduous of a task.. not that extensible12:59
=== guerby [~guerby@d83-177-132-108.cust.tele2.fr] has joined #ubuntu
=== Wolven [~ion@c5100A7C5.sdsl.catch.no] has joined #ubuntu
=== maxxist [~Maxxist@S0106000c4134d382.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu
MMondPerhaps I'm just not seeing something . . .01:00
apokryphosMMond: Not all of us do; sometimes it's just a lot quicker, if you're doing some quick editing.01:00
djpXappe: exactly. something i contemplated at first but considering i have 5 consoles surrounding me i decided that gaming was becoming a neglected art on my PC!01:00
=== iceaxe18 [~iceaxe18@c-24-18-111-235.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== gurran [~gurran@c-7bdbe055.544-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu
JDahlMMond, the bottle neck is not in the editor... you're the bottleneck01:00
=== seth__ [~MUAHAHAH@bl4-82-249.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #ubuntu
MMondI take it vim is the most prominent editor for all sorts of things?01:01
MMondMmm01:01
apokryphosNo01:01
djpMMond: vim is extremely versitile01:01
JDahlMMond, emacs is nice once you remember the commands01:01
=== neofeed [~moritz@pD9575FD7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== sahin_h [~sahin@143.147-183-adsl-pool.axelero.hu] has joined #ubuntu
=== LinuxJones [~LinuxJone@blk-222-206-208.eastlink.ca] has joined #ubuntu
Funraiseri've seen today the list of games playable on linux it's just...amazing...i mean the last stonghold of windows is about to collapse01:01
BobaFettFunraiser: How did you get it to write cds?01:01
Funraiserdude...it just..worked!01:02
XappeFunraiser, i can't get the hang of cvscedega though01:02
BobaFettREALLY? Oh bummer...01:02
=== Nico [~nicolasle@216-237.dedicado.com.uy] has joined #ubuntu
MMondMmmhmm. I'm gonna get editting - thanks for the tips and the hints01:02
knuckswhats the good xine program?01:02
BobaFettWhat do you use tu brn cds? kd3, arson, nautilus, what?01:02
knucksxine -something01:02
apokryphosHeh, funnily enough, vim was voted the editor of the year on LinuxQuestions. :D01:02
FunraiserXappe are u kidding me, i found it today in no time on piratebay.org01:02
MomHi all.  I hope I'm not bothering, but I can't seem to boot from the Ubuntu CD that I dl. I WINISOed it and burned it to cd.  I had no trouble with SuSE or Fedora Core.  What am I doing wrong? I'm very new to this.01:02
apokryphosBobaFett: whatever floats your boat; I use k3b.01:03
XappeFunraiser, mhm, I've installed the cvs-version, but I have hard times using it :)01:03
knucksFunraiser: whats that one xine program?01:03
MMondEveryone has actually suggested that I quickly get used to it - that vim will serve me great goods once I get used to it01:03
BobaFettapokryphos: I cant get k3b to see my damn cdrw can also WRITE cds! :(01:03
djpknucks: xine-gui01:03
knucksthats the one01:03
haydencan anyone help me with samba, it says /etc/mtab is locked whenever i try to mount a share (i am gonna format and reinstall if no fix)01:03
knucksis it in synaptic?01:04
=== fleebailey33 [~andy@c-67-163-138-215.client.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
Funraisera video player01:04
BobaFettapokryphos: I try to run k3bsetup2 but i get a 'path not found' error...01:04
Funraisereasier01:04
XappeBobaFett, I use graveman01:04
Funraiseron ubuntuguide.org01:04
djpknucks: should be if you have the correct repos setup01:04
knucksim on hoary..01:04
BobaFettXappe: My problem doesnt seem to be on the software/frontends, I think its just that im missing something to write cds...drivers maybe?01:04
knucksi tried apt-get installing it but it couldnt find it01:04
Funraiseron warty it is on synaptic01:05
djpknucks: i think it is in universe or maybe multiverse, maybe somebody here can help us out with that one01:05
knucksbrb..01:05
JDahlit's xine-ui, no?01:05
Funraiseryep01:05
haydencan anyone help me with samba, it says /etc/mtab is locked whenever i try to mount a share (i am gonna format and reinstall if no fix)01:05
djpJDahl: right!01:06
=== william [~william@res-66-169-83-023.ash.nc.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== william [~william@res-66-169-83-023.ash.nc.charter.com] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
psy__nn01:07
djpknucks: xine-ui = universe repo01:08
MomIf you had to tell your mom what to do with the Ubuntu DL, what would you tell here?01:08
timstry it as a livecd first mom01:08
Funraisergo back to windows01:08
djpMom: wait for me to visit...01:08
=== xun5 [~eleazar@200.44.243.242] has joined #ubuntu
Funraiserlol01:09
djpmy parents are using a windows 3.11 box with full digital camera support, mp3 playback and cd burning functionality!01:10
snowblinkMom: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=13414&page=1&pp=1001:10
=== xun5 [~eleazar@200.44.243.242] has joined #ubuntu
timswhy?01:10
djptims: they have an extremely old pc01:10
apokryphosSounds excellent.01:10
timsthat is so last century01:10
djptims: it wokrs for them and the system is extremely fast01:11
Funraisermom: linux is not ready for you yet, but it's coming fast01:11
djptims: any other operating system will just crawl along01:11
BobaFettWhat kind of Win 3.11 is THAT? O.o01:11
=== Errejo [~errejo@v059a.studby.ntnu.no] has joined #ubuntu
djpBobaFett: the usual ;)01:12
BobaFettAll I ever got my Win3.11 to do was to run AVI files...but that was it, and they played at 16bpp! LOL01:12
Funraiserknucks?01:12
ErrejoHey, anyone here had trouble with dcGUI sharelist not being readable ? It's like the text is same color as background or not there at all .. I can see the expansion arrow thingies but ..01:12
BobaFettTell your parents they ROCK, djp :)01:12
djpBobaFett: usb support is available under Windows 3.11, it's just a bugger to get working!01:12
=== Euphoria [kvirc@74.Red-81-40-226.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== Lemonzest [~Lemonzest@cpc1-nott4-3-0-cust27.nott.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu
SeqBobaFett: nice, i only ever ran win 3.1 or 3.11 at 256 colours01:13
BobaFettwhen I had Win3.11, a joypad was already strange enough xD01:13
Funraiseri had a cpc 612801:13
JDahldjp, I think I have some OS/2 floppies stashed somewhere they can have... it's 100% Win31 compatible, a 32bit OS and true multitasking!!01:13
Euphoriahi all01:13
djpBobaFett: have installed DeliLinux as a dual boot os for them just recently01:13
BobaFettEver heard of Scitech Display Doctor, Seq? It got Win3.11 to run using VESA Standards..16bpp was a breeze :)01:13
BobaFettOh, your parents rock more than I do. :)01:14
SeqBobaFett: yeah, i had heard, and being a kid at the time i remember my uncle telling me about it. but all the games were for dos anyway01:14
djpJDahl: trust me JDahl, i have problems explaining what they have to do to connect to the internet everytime!01:14
BobaFettSeq...Win3.11 had some rare jewels, too! Ever tried the Win version of Adeline's Time Commando?01:14
SeqBobaFett: not about scitech display doctor itself, but about having "better colours" :p01:15
timsomg are you guys seriously reminiscing about win3.1?01:15
Errejoany suggestions what I can use instead of dcGUI then, that you know is working ok ?01:15
djptims: lol01:15
SeqBobaFett: pfft, i was all about wolfenstein and test drive at the time01:15
BobaFettWin3.1 brings back some fond memories...01:15
BobaFettWolfenstein and Test Drive? So...Never tried Cosmo's Cosmic Adventure from Epic? Or ANY Epic game?01:16
BobaFettJill of the Jungle? Tyrian?01:16
BobaFettMan, you missed some real pieces of work!01:16
=== nybro43 [C2T1yTvt@pool-70-23-235-98.ny325.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu
SeqBobaFett: fond memories of win 3.1? well that makes one of us! :)01:16
=== dewey [~dewey@c-67-160-122-96.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
djpBobaFett: tyrian! Now you're talking!01:16
knucksFunraiser: yeh?01:16
timsman I hated win3.1, but then I was writing software for it at the time..01:16
Funraisergot xine?01:16
BobaFettIve always been a Winblows user, guys...im sorry *blushes*01:16
=== djp notes tyrian for a download and install on parents pc next visit!
=== dewey [~dewey@c-67-160-122-96.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
SeqBobaFett: it was neat, but having no modem at the time, everything i wanted to do was faster in dos. so granted my usage was a little different, but it allows me to have no particularly fond memories of it at all01:17
BobaFettAnd now I cant even burn a CD under Linux LOL01:17
apokryphosNothing can beat the old-school Macs; used to have solitaire even on our first one. Killer stuff.01:17
djpBobaFett: use cdrecord01:17
BobaFettI know whatcha mean, Seq...Win3.11 games were rare at the time...most Windows-powered gamers discovered games at the birth of DirectX01:17
knucksFunraiser: no01:17
knucksi cant find it01:17
Quest-MasterBobaFett: Tried gnomebaker?01:17
Funraiseron synaptic?01:17
djpknucks: check what repos you have activated01:18
BobaFettgnomebaker? Nopes,...never heard of it...01:18
timsyeah yeah so my first computer didn't even have a tape drive.. and only a memo pad mode with no programming language, but you don't see me getting all misty-eyed01:18
SeqBobaFett: thats because you had "better" raw graphics support under dos until direct x01:18
XappeErrejo, i'm using linuxdcpp (linux port of dc++)01:18
knucksdjp: all of them are01:18
BobaFettSeq: And also, DirectX games were visually stunning for the time...it was too hard to resist :)01:18
=== tritium [~rimbert@12-202-90-180.client.insightBB.com] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
Errejothanks, Xappe, I'll check it out01:19
djpknucks: JDahl pointed out earlier it is xine-ui not xine-gui as i mistakenly called it01:19
Momdjp:  I hope you got my thank you message!01:19
knucksahh well then i can get it01:19
SeqBobaFett: i disagree. what was the big game to launch direct x? Fury3. Ever play terminal velocity for dos? exact same game.01:19
=== marcin_ant [~marcin@www.e-dev.tele2.pl] has joined #ubuntu
djpMom: sorry?01:19
XappeErrejo, http://linuxdcpp.berlios.de/articles.php?um=index01:19
=== n0n3 [~elmaya@201.133.215.125] has joined #ubuntu
BobaFettSeq: Ever tried the 'Win95 Games - No Limits' Demo CD Microsoft lauched with DirectX?01:20
=== difekta [~BROKEN@h-68-164-187-45.snfccasy.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #UBUNTU
timsjoin channel #win3.1geezers01:20
SeqBobaFett: nopes01:20
BobaFettIt was a graphical miracle...and I agree, Fury3 sucked bigtime. But The DirectX Demo CD had some real jewels.01:20
Quest-MasterFury3.. oh man.01:20
knucksok i got xine-ui01:20
knuckshow do i run it01:20
MomI sent you a thank you message.  I guess you didn't get it.  thanks for the link.  It looks like just what I need.01:20
Quest-MasterThat was like, THE game.01:20
djpSeq: TV... excellent game!01:20
Funraiserapplications/multimedia01:20
SeqBobaFett: oh i thought fury3 was a great game actually. im just saying its the same as terminal velocity for dos01:20
djptims: lol!!!01:21
knucksFunraiser: its not there01:21
BobaFettReally? I was more of a Descent kinda guy. Fury3 lacked some serious gameplay issues.01:21
FunraiserOMG01:21
Seqand to be honest, i've got dosbox installed for games but no cedega ;)01:21
Funraiserreboot01:21
Chipzzterminal velocity rules :)01:21
knucksok01:21
Momsnowblink: that's for the link!01:22
BobaFettAlso...you cant expect Microsoft's Fury 3 to become a classic when you have a similar game out in the market...and made by George Broussard and 3dRealms themselves...01:22
SeqBobaFett: descent was definately better, but it was give-take. you were _always_ in the mines in descent, wheras you were usually outside in fury3 (and the mines were just crappy tunnels)01:22
BobaFettDescent 2 had really cool open spaces!01:22
BobaFettBut I agree Descent's scent was claustrophobia.01:22
djpFunraiser: knuck's upgrade seems to have gone somewhat pear shaped01:23
=== knucks [~chatzilla@pcp01189996pcs.waldlk01.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
knucksIts not there01:23
=== andril [~andril@adsl-3-131-224.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu
SeqBobaFett: descent2 didnt have any open spaces other than relly big rooms in the mines. descent 3 had some open spaces, but you couldnt leave the valleys iirc01:23
Seq(never played descent 3, really)01:23
BobaFettAnyways...Microsoft tried to outgame 3DRealms at what they did best. So...as you can guess, I never really liked Furt3 :)01:23
Funraiser...dunno01:24
djpknucks: can u let us know what is in your sources.list?01:24
knucksyeah01:24
knucksum01:24
SeqBobaFett: (i should also mention descent 2 was one of my favourite games. right up there with syndicate and privateer -- all of which are dos games :)01:24
knuckshow tho01:24
=== kingsley__ [~kingsley@dsl-47-137.nas.com] has joined #ubuntu
knuckswhere do u want me to paste it01:24
BobaFettSyndicate ! LOL Bullfrog was DA BOMB!01:24
BobaFettI got Syndicate Wars, too. Ever tried it?01:24
Seqyeah, i wasnt a big fan of it01:24
Seqprolly 'cause it was slow on my machine or something being all 3d01:25
BobaFettNeither was I...but it was one of my first CD-Rom games...so...it still brings tears to my eyes :)01:25
Funraisertry applications/runapplications/ and type xine01:25
Funraiserrun01:25
timsone word: Starcraft01:25
Funraiserand boulder dash01:26
=== veristead [~MYOB@pool-68-163-164-165.bos.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu
BobaFettBoulder Dash for the Atari 800XL was the reason I got into consoles... :)01:26
BobaFettI never was a Space Invaders kinda guy.01:26
Seqnever got into warcraft or starcraft. i really liked the c&c games though01:26
djpFunraiser: boulder dash II rockford's revenge, now that IS a puzzle game!01:26
Funraiseri spent nights on boulder dash01:26
djptims: starcraft was one game i am ashamed to say i missed...01:27
tims800xl was not a console :)01:27
BobaFettWarcraft: Orcs and Humans got me hooked on my 386sx 16mhz, and I never stopped since :)01:27
djptimss: 800xml was an atari, right?01:27
apokryphosStarcraft was great, but RedAlert better.01:27
BobaFettI know, tims, but after seeing Boulder Dash, I had to get the new 'Nintendo' thing everyone was talking about :)01:27
OmniColossusTA for linux would rule my world01:27
XappeDune 201:27
Funraiserredalert was cool01:27
timslol, 800XL was a 64k fire-breathing 6502-based microcomputer01:28
SeqXappe: i never had a chance to play dune 2 until after c&c, oddly enough01:28
apokryphosFinal Fantasy games have to have been the ones that consumed the most amount of my childhood. ;-)01:28
OmniColossusbut I would settle for some powerpc Quake2 bots01:28
BobaFettfor me? Atari 800Xl was nothing more than BoulderDash, Montezuma, Green Beret and Henry's House :)01:28
timssigh01:28
Seqapokryphos: final fantasy 7 was the only one i played repeatedly.01:28
=== kaos [~kaos@adsl-19-151-108.jan.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu
Xappewell, dune 2 is still ome of the best rts games imho01:28
Funraiserwas addicted to boulder dash, actually there is a version of it right here on ubuntu, found that the other day, on games/stones!!01:28
BobaFettChrono Trigger ownz Final Fantasy :)01:29
OmniColossuschrono trigger :D01:29
OmniColossusjinx jinx jinx01:29
apokryphosSeq: It was the clear favourite for me, too. I think I completed it at least 2/3 times.01:29
=== Quazion [~quazion@bsm-c-5628.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu
Seqi think most of my childhood went into the wing-commanders, especially privateer.01:29
apokryphoscould feel the tears coming when Aeris died. ;)01:29
Funraisercheck boulder dash on ubuntu on games/stones!01:29
jeff_what about space quest01:29
BobaFettOh, I was more of a TIEFighter/X-Wing type of guy :)01:29
apokryphosdamn that Sephiroth01:29
Xappechrono trigger is totally addictive01:29
kaosdoes anyone know the name for this gui front end to cdrecord its like a three letter acronym01:29
apokryphosk3b01:30
BobaFettkaos: KD3?01:30
Seqapokryphos: i had the pc version, so I accidently found out aeris died way too early (the videos were just avi's)01:30
BobaFettK3B01:30
kaosyeh01:30
=== dizzie [~dizzie@port75.ds1-hj.adsl.cybercity.dk] has left #Ubuntu []
BobaFett(typo xD)01:30
=== JDahl [~qwerty@ca-stmnca-cuda4-gen2u1-63.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu
OmniColossussecret of mana was also fun01:30
kaosIt took a min01:30
apokryphosSeq: you cheat :P01:30
Funraisera sec01:30
kaosthanks01:30
BobaFettSecret of Mana rules! I played even the 'Seiken Densetsu' ones xD01:30
apokryphosSeq: any idea if that's still available anywhere? Would love to see some of those cinematics again.01:30
SeqBobaFett: i had those too. but didnt it always get down to the point where you knew EXACTLY how the mission would play out, so you could time everything to get all bonus objectives?01:31
OmniColossussecret of phantasia was translated, but I have yet to play it01:31
Seqapokryphos: ff7?01:31
apokryphosyeah01:31
=== skel_home [~skel@ip68-230-51-68.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu
skel_homeany users of amd64 ubuntu ?01:31
Seqapokryphos: prolly somewhere, im sure. I still have the pc version in a box somewhere im sure01:31
BobaFettSeq: Oh, yeah...bonus objectives earned you the right to be the Emeperor's personal badass and have a killer tatoo...what can possibly be cooler? :)01:31
veristeadok.... so i jst got a uMax SuperMac 600 series (603e/240) and currently it is running MacOS 8.5 and i want to make it run Ubuntu however it seemingly will not boot from the CD drive any other suggestions of getting Ubuntu onto the machine?01:31
veristeadit is a mac clone01:32
skel_homeveristead: you probably need to go through the oldworld mac install proceedures01:32
=== BobaFett whispers: apokryphos, try abandonware sites...
apokryphoswill do01:32
=== bradg [~brad@12-216-228-198.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu
veristeadske1_home: floppy?01:33
Funraiserknucks?01:33
skel_homeveristead: yeah I think so01:33
knucksFunraiser: djps helpin..01:34
Funraiseroh01:34
Funraiserk01:34
knucksyeay01:34
knucksgot it01:34
Funraiserxine's working?01:34
knuckswell i dont have a video to test it on01:35
knucksbut yes01:35
Funraiserthe shortcut too?01:35
knucksyeh01:35
djpknucks: well done01:35
thierryFunraiser, wich version of xine?01:35
knucksmy next order of business tho...my printer doesnt work01:35
Funraiser0.99.101:35
Funraiserthierry01:35
thierryfunraiser, yeah?01:36
djpok night all, my bed is calling before my 2 year old does!01:36
Funraiserversion 0.99.101:36
=== veristead sighs
=== OddAbe19 [~OddAbe19@pcp02542642pcs.lncstr01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
BobaFettdamn cdrw!!! i just cant get it to workkk...do i need scsi drivers for and atapi cdrw?01:36
knucksnight01:36
Funraisernight djp01:36
veristeadcan i get Ubuntu on to floppy disks?01:36
knucksthx for the help01:36
Funraiserno bobafett01:36
=== XposerX [~bruce@ool-182d394a.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== djp [~david@dynamic-62-56-49-189.park-s46b.dslaccess.co.uk] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
Funraisermine is like yours01:36
Funraiserand it works on atapi01:36
knuckswhy doesnt my printer work01:37
=== myosotis [~myosotis@lap34-2-82-224-140-103.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu
BobaFettFunraiser: What could be the problem with my cdrecord command? I cant get it to run a succesful scanbus...01:37
=== LinuxJones [~LinuxJone@blk-222-206-208.eastlink.ca] has joined #ubuntu
Funraiseride01:37
veristeadanyone know if Ubuntu can ship floppies instead of CDs?01:37
Funraiserare u on hoary or warty?01:37
Funraiserdon't think so01:37
thierryfunraiser, I have 0.99.3 and it works well but I don't have any link01:38
HrdwrBoBveristead: um.. no01:38
knuckshow do i get RAR working01:38
knucksi have a trance cd to unrar01:38
Funraiserknuck ubuntuguide.org01:38
knucksand the one in the guide wont work for me01:38
Funraiserno?01:38
skel_homeveristead: what I did for my ibook before they could get the cd / hd to work on the same channel was copy the kernel and yaboot to my mac os9 drive and booted off that.. then inserted the cd01:38
=== mroth [~mroth@mroth.user] has joined #ubuntu
knucksFunraiser: nope01:38
apokryphosfound a couple of great ones :D01:39
thierryknucks : try apt-get install unrar01:39
knuckspackage unrar has no installation candidate01:40
thierryknucks : hoary or warty?01:40
knuckshoary01:40
veristeadske1_home interesting01:40
veristeadseemingly, now that i try it, the CD drive doesn't work01:40
veristeadit won't mount any CD i put in there01:41
thierryknucks : do you have all the repositories of ubuntuguide but with hoary instead of warty?01:41
knucksi think so.01:41
=== elmayados [~elmaya@201.133.215.125] has joined #ubuntu
thierryknucks : because with all the repositories for hoary I get it01:41
Funraiserthierry try gmplayer01:41
knuckscan i PM u and show u?01:42
Funraiseroupps01:42
Funraiseri mean try...01:42
veristeadwhat would be interesting is if i could install it via a network01:42
veristeadconnect it to another machine01:42
Funraisernautilus nautilus applications:///Multimedia01:42
veristeadand install it from that machine01:42
Funraiserand add a new launcher if u know where the bin is01:42
veristeador i could pull out the hard drive and install it from another computer01:42
thierry!!!!! gcc is not installed by default in ubuntu???01:43
JDahlthierry, sudo apt-get install build-essential gives you most software development tools01:43
=== danix [~daniela@BHE043212.res-com.wayinternet.com.br] has joined #ubuntu
johnnybezakthierry!!! OMG!!! :P01:44
knucksmmm I got it01:44
knuckseh01:44
knuckswtf01:44
knucksi got rar01:44
knucksstill doesnt wanna unrar it01:44
knucksdo i have to restart?01:44
=== PacoBCN [~PacoBCN@62-15-248-28.inversas.jazztel.es] has joined #ubuntu
JDahlknucks, probably you need unrar-nonfree01:45
Funraiserno01:45
FunraiserApplications -> Accessories -> Archive Manager01:45
=== Nico [~nicolasle@216-237.dedicado.com.uy] has left #ubuntu []
=== Burgundavia [~Burgundav@S0106000000cc07fc.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu
thierryno gtk+ neither!!!!!!!!01:46
knucksJDahl yup. Thanks01:46
Funraiseris it that bad?01:46
JDahlthierry, it does come with apt-get, though01:46
crimsunthierry: um, gtk+ _is_ installed by default, else gnome wouldn't even run.01:46
knucksok who can help me with my printer?01:47
knucksi need to get it working01:47
Funraiserwell i go to bed now...night all01:47
knucksg'd night mate01:47
crimsunthierry: but the decision to not install the devel portions is based on the sane idea that most desktop users won't need to compile ;-)01:47
thierryJDahl, crimsun : strange I can't get to get ./configure of firefox working because he says that GTK+ isn't installed01:47
thierrycrimsun: ok I understand01:48
crimsunthierry: that's because it's looking for libgtk2.0-dev01:48
crimsunthierry: just do: apt-get build-dep mozilla-firefox01:48
=== NetwrkMonkey [~Monkey@netwrkmonkey.user] has joined #ubuntu
thierrycrimsun: thanks! Now I see how yum is nothing comparing to apt-get01:49
crimsun:p01:49
ellscan anyone help me with burning my vob files to a dvd. I did it and it wont play01:50
=== Dr_Acemaster [~none@c-24-11-89-119.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
thierrycrimsun: I still get this error about GTK :01:51
thierrychecking for gtk-config... no01:51
thierrychecking for GTK - version >= 1.2.0... no01:51
thierry*** The gtk-config script installed by GTK could not be found.01:51
thierry*** If GTK was installed in PREFIX, make sure PREFIX/bin is in01:51
thierry*** your path, or set the GTK_CONFIG environment variable to the01:51
thierry*** full path to gtk-config.01:51
thierry*** GTK+ is available from ftp://ftp.gtk.org/pub/gtk01:51
thierryconfigure: error: Test for GTK failed.01:51
crimsunthierry: is there any reason you're using ./configure by hand?01:51
thierrycrimsun: how could I fix that?01:51
=== NetGeek [~dbasinge@dsl093-224-097.slc1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu
crimsunthierry: (it's looking for libgtk1.2-dev)01:51
=== Gervystar [~gervystar@62.94.208.119] has left #ubuntu ["Sto]
thierrycrimsun: I want to test a change I made for an ubuntu bug01:52
johnnybezakhave any of you guys noticed how much better man pages for bsd are? why doesn't some one copy them for the gnu pages?01:52
crimsunthierry: best to apt-get source mozilla-firefox and use the ubuntu's build infrastructure01:52
=== gaatmx [~gaatmx@dsl-200-78-32-67.prod-infinitum.com.mx] has joined #ubuntu
crimsunjohnnybezak: well, openbsd's man pages are wonderful01:53
thierrycimsun : what is the ubuntu's build infrastructure?01:53
thierrycrimsun01:53
=== _tester_ [~yz@216.238.205.150] has joined #ubuntu
=== techn9ne [~jeremy@S0106000f66ddc57e.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu
crimsunthierry: dpkg-dev, etc.01:53
=== difekta is now known as BROKEN_LADDER
thierrycrimsun: any howto or deeper explanation about that? I don't know what is dpkg-dev so...01:54
crimsunthierry: the tools used to create a .deb01:54
johnnybezakcrimsun: mb youre right, but I was using mac os x over summer and if you compare the darwin "man chmod" to the on on ubuntu, its shameful01:54
thierryok!! and how do I do this?01:54
=== dolson [~dana@Sudbury-HSE-ppp3984430.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu
crimsunthierry: http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/01:55
=== GodKiller [~SATANIS@Ottawa-HSE-ppp4076267.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu
JDahlthierry, what is you want? to compile firefox on your own?01:55
thierryJDahl : just to test something I added for an Ubuntu bug01:56
=== Quazion [~quazion@bsm-c-5628.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu
=== thr1ce [~ubuntu@24.231.145.73.gha.mi.chartermi.net] has joined #ubuntu
JDahlthierry, why dont you patch the ubuntu package, apt-get source firefox? then you have infrastructure for making debs01:57
knucksso heres a question..where the hell did Azureus and LimeWire disappear to01:57
techn9nethey disapeared?01:57
=== shadearg [~shadearg@cpe-69-135-198-185.woh.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
knucksyeah01:58
knucks..01:58
techn9nefrom where?01:58
knucksi had them before i upgraded to hoary01:58
knucksnow they're gone01:58
=== mroth [~mroth@mroth.user] has joined #ubuntu
knucksand i cant seem to get them working01:58
techn9neyour java is probably brocken01:58
techn9netype : java at command line01:58
mrothhas anyone ran into a problem where the machine refuses to boot when a USB media reader is plugged in?01:59
techn9neits either gonna spit out a bunch of information or give you an error saying command not found01:59
knuckstechn9ne: ok01:59
thierryJDahl : wait a minute, how do I patch the ubuntu package?01:59
knucksi got info01:59
crimsunmroth: boots normally when the usb device is unplugged, correct?01:59
techn9neok01:59
techn9negoto limewire /azureus directroy01:59
mrothcrimsun: yep, and you can plug it in post-boot and it works fine01:59
crimsunthierry: use the dpatch infrastructure01:59
GodKillerfuck i cant fucking believe this nasty piece of shit wont play any sounds01:59
techn9neknucks: start from command line and see whatit says01:59
JDahlthierry, you get the source package, "sudo apt-get source firefox"01:59
knucksok i can load them..02:00
techn9nefor some reason i cant start limewire only8 from command line02:00
techn9nei dont know why i havent figured it out yet02:00
techn9ne:-/02:00
thierryJDahl, ok then what?02:00
mrothcrimsun: but when its plugged in at boot... you dont get past the initrd area of stuff02:00
JDahlthierry, then you start hacking...02:00
crimsunmroth: I've seen it, yes. I work around it by plugging in the device later.02:01
=== OddAbe19 [~OddAbe19@pcp02542642pcs.lncstr01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
thierryJDahl, ok and once my hacking is finished? That's about where I am02:01
knuckswhats that program im looking for to make shortcuts in the panel?02:01
knucksits like..02:01
knucksphp-gtk02:01
=== IvyCQuaff [~Sir@c906a0a6.virtua.com.br] has joined #ubuntu
mrothcrimsun: ah, any idea what causes it?02:01
crimsunmroth: did you experience this with warty and/or hoary?02:02
=== dolson_ [~dana@Sudbury-HSE-ppp3983285.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu
=== noflex [~noflex@D40AE672.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #ubuntu
JDahlthierry, I havent build my own debs in awhile so I forgot the command... maybe crimsum remembers? it's quite easy, though02:02
mrothcrimsun: dont recall when it started, i've been running hoary for quite a while.. its persisted for at least the past few kernel versions02:02
crimsunthierry: I posted above a url to the maint-guide02:03
crimsunthierry: it's also installable via apt-get02:03
=== Kraeloc [~Kraeloc@dsl231-047-166.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== veristead [~MYOB@pool-68-163-164-165.bos.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu
JDahlthierry, I bet "man dpkg-buildpackage" would be helpful02:04
ErrejoI can't use my dsa ssh key made in windows with puttygen when I'm in linux ? It won't accept my passphrase02:04
thierryk02:04
=== moyogo [~moyogo@Toronto-HSE-ppp3717779.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu
veristeadok... can anyone help me with something02:05
mrothcrimsun: any idea what the best way to track it down would be?  I'd like to get it well documented so it can hopefully be patched out at some point.  unfortunately kernel-level magic is beyond me.02:05
veristeadi keep trying to get help but i keep getting turned down02:05
crimsunmroth: keep an eye on what the kernel reports when you plug it in02:05
JDahlveristead, down ask for help, just ask... if we know the answer, we will answer02:06
JDahls/down/dont/02:06
mrothcrimsun: plug it post-boot?  problem only occurs during boot, so the post-boot plugin works successfully02:06
crimsunmroth: yes02:06
=== NobleArc [~Freya@h24-207-80-159.cst.dccnet.com] has joined #ubuntu
thierrycrimsun, Jdahl: dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot is the solution02:07
veristeadseemingly everytime i open the network  utility in Ubuntu Warty i keep getting an error message saying "The Configuration could not be loaded:  There was an error running the backend script"02:07
JDahlthierry, cool02:07
veristeadit also happens on Users02:07
veristeadand group02:07
veristeadTime and Date02:07
crimsunthierry: that's one method, yes.02:07
veristeadand so far that's it02:07
=== _mage_work is now known as _mage_afk
veristeadit only worked once and that was when i was at the mall trying to show someone that it didn't work02:08
=== King_Crimson [~chatzilla@ool-44c239cb.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== ells [~steve@69-171-78-149.clspco.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu
JDahlthierry, dont forget to increment the package version number02:08
ellsanyone here using net applet02:08
mrothcrimsun: alright, got the relevant output from kern.log in a text file02:09
lupusBEany gtk developers here that know of gtkmarshal.list?02:09
=== BockBilbo [~BockBilbo@85.84.43.70] has joined #ubuntu
King_Crimsonhello ?02:10
ellsanyone here using net applet02:10
thierryJDahl, why incrementing?02:10
King_Crimsoni have a ?02:10
=== ben_d [~ben@cpe-66-66-209-96.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== geppy [~geppy@c-24-0-83-218.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
King_Crimsonanyone can help me?02:11
JDahlthierry, otherwise the package manager will probably replace your customized packaged right under your nose02:11
thierryok!02:11
King_Crimsonumm02:11
King_Crimsonanyone no a lot oabout ubuntu i have a problem02:11
ellsanyone using netapplet, I need some assistance02:11
thierryJDahl, I increment after creating it or is there a special command that I need to do?02:11
JDahlthierry, there02:11
King_CrimsonSOMEONE02:12
King_CrimsonHELP ME02:12
techn9neKing_Crimson: chill out. just ask your question02:12
King_Crimsonok02:12
JDahlthierry, there's a textfile in the debian directory with the version number.. just add a .1 to the end or something.02:12
geppyKing_Crimson:  I AM SUDDENLY MOTIVATED TO HELP YOU02:12
King_Crimsonsee i have a ubuntu livecd02:12
King_Crimsonand  wen i put it in02:12
thierryJdahl, before or after building?02:12
JDahlthierry, before02:12
King_Crimsonwen i try to go to the gui my monitor does not receive a video signal02:13
ellsanyone using netapplet, I need some assistance02:13
=== avirox [~avirox@pool-151-205-107-153.ny325.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu
aviroxhey02:13
aviroxhow do i make my root writeable to?02:13
King_Crimsonhello02:13
geppyHow can I build an .xml file that is like the "Latest Headlines" in Firefox?  I'd like to be able to have a drop-down of the latest updates to the sites that I visit (it's a pain to have a separate Live Bookmark for each one).02:14
geppyavirox:  Don't.02:14
ellsthat and is anyone familiar how I can burn my vob files to a dvd to play here at home02:14
aviroxgeppy, why?02:14
=== kaos [~kaos@adsl-155-82-81.jan.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu
thierryJDahl, wich file? the changelog?02:14
thr1cecan I choose a FS on ubuntu when installing?  or is there just a default02:14
King_Crimsonok guess none has ever had my problem02:14
=== pugio [~pugio@162.33.155.226] has joined #ubuntu
geppyavirox:  Because it defeats the whole point of.. not having it writable.  It's a terrible security risk.02:14
geppythr1ce:  There are many options, look around in the partition editor.02:14
techn9neKing_Crimson: warty or hoary?02:15
JDahlthierry, yes... I believe so02:15
King_Crimsonwarty02:15
aviroxgeppy,  only temporarily02:15
crimsunKing_Crimson: your problem description is far too vague02:15
geppythr1ce: There's ReiserFS, Ext2, Ext3, etc.02:15
techn9neKing_Crimson: file a bug report02:15
King_Crimsonhow?02:15
thr1ceif I have slackware installed, will it find that partition, and give me the option to use it?02:15
King_Crimsoni just dont htink my vid card is configured for linux02:15
crimsunKing_Crimson: you haven't told us anything about your hardware02:15
geppyavirox:  Well, if you *really* want to, you could do 'sudo chmod 777 /', but I still think that that's a bad way to do it.02:15
King_Crimsonit isnt recognizing it02:15
geppythr1ce:  It should.02:15
King_Crimsono rite02:15
ellsthat and is anyone familiar how I can burn my vob files to a dvd to play here at home02:15
King_Crimsonnvidia gforce fx5200 ultra02:15
aviroxgeppy,  and how would i make it writeable again?02:15
geppyavirox:  Why not just write whatever you're wanting to write as root?02:15
King_Crimsonpenitum 3, 1000mhz02:15
aviroxerr02:16
=== tims [~tims@c-24-21-58-44.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
geppyavirox:  Make it _un_writable again?02:16
thr1cewill it run as well as slackware?  someone told me i would see a huge decrease in speed (athlon 2100 with a gig of ram)02:16
aviroxcuz i cant log in as root in ubuntu02:16
aviroxfor some reason02:16
=== TerminX [~terminx@terminx.envision7.com] has joined #ubuntu
aviroxwhen i try it says "that account cannot log in from here"02:16
crimsunKing_Crimson: the version of 'nv' in warty's livecd doesn't support the FX chipsets02:16
=== AngryClip [~kvirc@jriley1984.plus.com] has joined #ubuntu
thierryJDahl, crimson: and once tested, what is the command to create the .patch file?02:16
=== skel_home [~skel@ip68-230-51-68.ph.ph.cox.net] has left #ubuntu []
geppyavirox:  You're not supposed to run as root.02:16
geppyavirox:  I don't think you're getting this security concept.02:16
aviroxlol02:16
aviroxk02:16
crimsunthierry: diff, then use dpatch to create the actual dpatch template02:16
aviroxis there a COPY command in bash?02:16
King_Crimsono0o0 ok so how do i run ubuntu?02:16
geppyKing_Crimson:  That's a terrible question.02:17
crimsunKing_Crimson: try with the livecd from array-602:17
crimsunKing_Crimson: see the topic02:17
=== revildab is now known as revildab|gone
King_Crimsonwat u mean02:17
ellsthat and is anyone familiar how I can burn my vob files to a dvd to play here at home02:17
King_Crimsono ok02:17
=== macewan [~macewan@ip68-101-19-222.nc.hr.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu
King_Crimsonill try that then02:17
geppyells:  Have you tried K3B?02:18
geppyells:  Nevermind.02:18
ellsI was told it wont work in hoary, that and these are vob files02:18
=== |QuaD- [~QuaD@beac872-0b01-dhcp181.bu.edu] has joined #ubuntu
geppyells:02:18
JDahlthierry, I dont know that one... I dont know if Debian uses something smarter than diff02:18
geppyells: K3B works fine for me in Hoary, but it doesn't have a video disc option.02:18
ellsI extracted the vobs, just need to burn them so they will work in my home dvd player02:18
veristeadso i assume no one can answer my question?02:18
crimsunveristead: patience goes a long way02:19
ellsgeppy: any ideas02:19
veristeadyea i know02:19
geppyells:  Google? =/02:19
veristeadsometimes i end up waiting for days for an answer02:19
veristeadand googleing for one and never finding one02:19
=== bretzel [~felix@modemcable128.237-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu
JDahlveristead, have tried asking on the forum?02:20
techn9neveristead: try forums or mailing lists02:20
JDahlhave you...02:20
=== MrNaughty [MrNaughty@199.126.25.30] has joined #ubuntu
veristeadno i have not02:20
geppyells:  Do you just have the .vob files?02:20
=== bretzel [~felix@modemcable128.237-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu
veristeadi cnt say i have unfortunately02:21
=== Dreamer3 [~unknown@sdn-ap-009tnnashP0251.dialsprint.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== Suvroc [Corvus@85.86.233.133] has joined #ubuntu
ellsgeppy: yes02:21
ellsI am gonna try to make a cd image and then burn it02:23
=== CorvusZz [Corvus@85.86.233.133] has joined #ubuntu
geppyells: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Create_a_DVD02:25
=== dolson [~dana@Sudbury-HSE-ppp3984258.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu
veristeadout of curiosity... i downloaded some a theme from freshmeat, how do i install it?02:25
geppyveristead:  There are lots of different kinds of themes.  Are you talking about a GNOME theme?02:26
ellsgeppy: thanks02:26
geppyells:  No problem.02:27
=== vidzorg [~hegleran@d47-69-152-90.try.wideopenwest.com] has joined #ubuntu
veristeadyea geppy02:27
=== Quarupt [~Quarupt@c-67-170-1-214.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== CorvusZz is now known as Corvus
veristeadgeppy this is the theme i am trying to install02:29
veristeadhttp://themes.freshmeat.net/projects/1in1-xp-gtk/02:29
veristeadthat one02:29
geppyveristead: Cool.02:30
geppyveristead: Desktop>Preferences>Themes02:30
veristeadany suggestions of how to install it anyone?02:30
thr1celooks like iceWM to me02:30
=== vidzorg [~hegleran@d47-69-152-90.try.wideopenwest.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== Kraeloc [~Kraeloc@dsl231-047-166.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
veristeadgeppy yea i know...02:32
ellsgeppy: are you familiar with netapplet02:32
veristeadbut it won't install02:32
veristeadi am not sure if i am selecting the right file02:32
veristeadbut i think i am02:32
geppyells:  No, sorry.02:32
ellsit is installed but it is not working02:32
=== CorvusZz [Corvus@85.86.233.133] has joined #ubuntu
Quaruptwow theres a sesame street techno remix02:34
geppyQuarupt:  clicky?02:34
=== wHisKy` [vampyre@m58.net81-67-104.noos.fr] has joined #ubuntu
=== petroleum [~petroleum@dsl-80-43-79-113.access.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu
ellsanyone know about netapplet02:35
=== jasoncarlough [~Jason@128-193-253-44.resnet.oregonstate.edu] has joined #ubuntu
=== jasoncarlough [~Jason@128-193-253-44.resnet.oregonstate.edu] has left #ubuntu []
=== jasoncarlough [~Jason@128-193-253-44.resnet.oregonstate.edu] has joined #ubuntu
=== jasoncarlough [~Jason@128-193-253-44.resnet.oregonstate.edu] has left #ubuntu []
=== bretzel [~felix@modemcable128.237-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu
Quaruptgeppy, huh?02:38
=== mdke [~matt@81-178-77-67.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== eyequeue [~eyequeue@eyequeue.user] has joined #ubuntu
=== mdke [~matt@81-178-77-67.dsl.pipex.com] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
pugiohey, how can I uninstall and purge and completely destroy Gnome and all of it's components02:38
geppyQuarupt:  Do you have a link for the song?02:38
=== mdke [~matt@mdke.user] has joined #ubuntu
pugio?02:38
neomAnyone know how to get your feed added to planet ubuntu?02:38
geppypugio: erm, by not using Ubuntu?02:38
Quarupti got it on a p2p02:39
Quaruptgeppy, you use limewire?02:39
pugiogeppy:  I need to reinstall Gnome02:39
pugioUbuntu ahs been doing the strangest things02:39
geppyQuarupt: No, just aMule.02:39
Quaruptgeppy, its actually a pretty cool song02:39
pugiorandom pieces of gnome disappear02:39
eyequeuepugio:  this may be of use02:39
pugiofirst gdm disappears02:39
pugiothen teh control center02:39
=== veristead [~MYOB@pool-68-163-164-165.bos.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu
Quaruptgeppy, you might be able to find it on there  try sesame street remix, thats how i found it02:39
eyequeuepugio:  apt-get --reinstall install foo bar baz02:39
pugiojust, poof! the entire package disappears02:39
geppyQuarupt: Alright, thanks.02:39
eyequeuepugio:  where foo bar and baz are package names02:40
pugioeyequeue: so if I did apt-get --reinstall install gnome would it install EVERYTHING02:40
pugiobecause random pieces are now missing02:40
mdkei've noticed that the gnome menu in hoary can be edited by amending the /usr/share/applications/*.desktop files. Is there any user specific way to amend the gnome menu?02:40
pugioand I"m not sure what those pices are02:40
=== SebaSO [NeoEcoS@200.116.133.91] has joined #ubuntu
eyequeuepugio:  no, it would only reinstall the pseudo-package gnome02:40
pugioeyequeue: ahh, then how to get everything?02:40
eyequeuepugio:  look, this will not produce a complete list, but it will probably come close02:40
eyequeuepugio:  okay?02:40
pugiosay! If I upgraded teh whole thing to Hoary would it put everything in place?02:41
veristeadso can anyone help me with installing themes02:41
SebaSOi can't install my Ubunto :( ?02:41
pugioeyequeue: ok :) and thanks (dpkg -l | grep gnome)02:41
veristeadi am relatively new to Linux02:41
mdkeveristead, yep wassup?02:41
pugioveristead: sure, just go to the computer menu02:41
SebaSOanyone can help me about install 02:41
eyequeuepugio:  dpkg -l gnome | grep ^ii | less02:41
mdkeSebaSO, what's the problem?02:41
aviroxhmm i got cedega installed but for some reason quake-based games are giving me flak, not being able to read from subdirs (IE glquake.exe gives me errors reading gfx.wad from ID1). Any ideas?02:41
SebaSOi can't install02:42
mdkeSebaSO, you need to be more specific02:42
eyequeuepugio:  yep :)  i just added a filter for the ones that are currently installed on your box02:42
johnnybezakcan't you install quake natively?02:42
SebaSOwhen i'm installing base packpages02:42
pugioeyequeue: if I upgraded the whole thing to hoary would it upgrade the entire gnome package (thereby replacing the missing stuff)02:42
mdkei've noticed that the gnome menu in hoary can be edited by amending the /usr/share/applications/*.desktop files. Is there any user specific way to amend the gnome menu?02:42
veristeadok so md5ke i downloaded this theme02:42
SebaSOthere are ever difents errors02:42
veristeadhttp://themes.freshmeat.net/projects/1in1-xp-gtk/02:42
eyequeuepugio:  if you'll be going to hoary anyway, knowing the risks, then ... yes, that will probably accomplish what you want, since i know there's a new gnome in hoary02:43
mdkeewwww02:43
aviroxdo i have to install games through cedega first in order to play them?02:43
pugioeyequeue: well, I know that Hoary appears to be pretty stable for most people, and Warty has been anything but02:43
geppyavirox:  Yes.02:43
mdkeveristead, it should be as simple as popping it in ~/.themes/02:43
aviroxaw crap02:43
aviroxhehe02:43
geppyavirox:  Why don't you go into #cedega?02:43
veristeadand now i have the file in my home directory  named '1in1-xp-gtk-default.tar.gz' and i dnt know wat else to do02:43
aviroxooh02:43
pugioeyequeue: as I said, ranomd pieces of gnome just....disappear02:43
veristeaddo i need to extract it first02:43
aviroxsorry :P02:43
veristeador do i throw that file in there02:43
mdkeveristead, yes02:43
eyequeuepugio:  btw, you seem to be fairly fluent in deb-based distros, right?02:43
geppyavirox: haha =)02:43
veristeadok02:43
SebaSOand when i check the cd.. every time there's errors02:44
mdkeveristead, go into .themes02:44
=== geppy is now known as geppy|away
pugioeyequeue: well, I've learned a lot since using Ubuntu but.... I'm ok with em02:44
mdkeveristead, and do tar zxf ../filename02:44
eyequeuepugio:  i only caution agsinst hoary for someone that doens't know how to dig themself out of a disaster that could occur tomorrow :)02:44
mdkeveristead, but that theme is seriously wrong02:44
SebaSOthis happend with all my cd's i got 20 shiped by Conanical02:44
eyequeuepugio:  well, your dpkg -l | grep told me you were fluent enough :)02:45
mdkeSebaSO, this is after you have rebooted for the first time?02:45
pugioeyequeue: well, it's for a friend, and you can't get any worse than having GNome go completely crazy on ya - but yeah, I can dig him out through vnc and ssh02:45
eyequeuepugio:  cool02:45
pugioeyequeue: well, I've been learing about debian prety fast - I like the dpkg system02:45
SebaSOnop, it's while i'm installing by frist time02:45
eyequeuepugio:  plus, you'll still have net access and can get here, if you really need more help02:45
mdkeSebaSO, maybe ubuntu is not ready for your hardware02:46
mdkeSebaSO, have a look on the hardware wiki and see if there are any errors reported. If not, then file a bug. Is this warty you are installing?02:46
pugioeyequeue: exactly, so... to upgrade to hoary I just replace all of my package sources from warty to hoary? (s/warty/hoary/02:46
=== iceaxe18 [~iceaxe18@c-24-18-111-235.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
SebaSOi've MSI K7 DElta2  with Nforce2 chipset02:46
eyequeuepugio:  i'm just always a bit cautious about blanketly advising hoary, since those newbies lurking might be tempted :)02:46
=== Quarupt continues hei never ending quest to find some good music creation software
SebaSOyes warty 4.1002:47
pugioeyequeue: ahh, well as I said, it can't get any worse than thi02:47
eyequeuepugio:  exactly, and then a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade (you need that dist this time)02:47
pugioeyequeue: I thought that might be the case - thanks a bunch! here goes nothing02:47
eyequeuedist- calls in some more drastic resolution routines02:48
SebaSOmdke: where i can see on wiki about my hardware02:48
SebaSO?02:48
mdkehang on02:48
=== geppy|away [~geppy@c-24-0-83-218.client.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu []
mdkehttp://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HardwareSupport02:48
SebaSOmdke: i think something can happend with my HDD02:50
thierrycrimson: what is the exact command to create a .patch file?02:50
SebaSOwhat kind of problems do you know have relation with HDDs?02:50
=== Corvus [Corvus@85.86.233.133] has joined #ubuntu
SebaSOmkde: all my hardware is supported !02:51
=== hyphen [~hyphen@c-24-130-176-80.we.client2.attbi.com] has joined #ubuntu
hyphenhowdy02:52
eyequeuethierry:  man diff, you're probably looking for diff foo bar > file.patch02:52
hypheni was wondering if someone could help me with something02:52
eyequeuehyphen:  ?02:53
hypheni just installed ubuntu as per my friend's recommendation and i'm totally new to linux02:53
hypheneverythings working fine, but my web browsing is pertty slow.  it takes upwards of 10-20 seconds to resolve the host02:54
eyequeuehyphen:  welcome02:54
hyphenthanks :P02:54
hyphensomeone suggested popping my isp dns into the network settings, but i called comcast and they said that "comcast isn't compatible with linux"02:54
eyequeuehyphen:  sounds like you may have a bum nameserver in your path?  how are you connected to the outside?02:54
hyphenwhich i found to be total baloney02:54
hyphencable modem >> router02:55
SebaSOeyequeue: why when i'm checking my cds in the install, look like all them are corrupt ?02:55
eyequeuehyphen:  lol, you are correct on that02:55
=== mike998 [user66@CPE0050bf78a2a0-CM014080207323.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu
eyequeueSebaSO:  maybe they are?  i con't know that from here02:55
hypheni called comcast again and asked for name server, but they said that comcast's nameservers were dynamic02:55
hyphennot sure if that's true or not or how i could get around this :/02:56
eyequeuehang on02:56
hyphenokie doke02:56
pugiohey how long would an upgrade from warty to hoary take assuming a standard verizon dsl connection?02:56
pugio(ie. about 100 KB/s and athalon 2800+)02:56
=== IvyCQHome [~Sir@c906a0a6.virtua.com.br] has joined #ubuntu
mike998pugio: took me about 2 hours (ish)02:57
pugioah ok, thanks02:57
=== mroth [~mroth@mroth.user] has joined #ubuntu
SebaSOeyequeue: i got about 20 cd's from shipit.ubutulinux.org ... do you think all them can be corrupt ?03:01
eyequeueprobably not03:01
SebaSOi'll tray to install it on another pc... and cry !03:02
SebaSOthx all the way !!03:02
=== SebaSO [NeoEcoS@200.116.133.91] has left #ubuntu []
=== dark0rbit [~dark0rbit@68.111.41.228] has joined #ubuntu
=== dolson [~dana@Sudbury-HSE-ppp3977245.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu
=== sigglet [~sigglet@208.187.169.233] has joined #ubuntu
ellshey to make an iso for a dvd. what parts of the dvd do I have to rip out03:07
=== SebaSO [NeoEcoS@200.116.133.91] has joined #ubuntu
=== NetwrkMonkey [~Monkey@netwrkmonkey.user] has joined #ubuntu
SebaSOi quest if i can install form a iso image on my HDD?03:08
SebaSOhello03:10
=== phester [~phester@h157n2fls32o827.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu
pugiohey, I'm trying to upgrade to hoary, but it keeps stalling at a certain point03:11
pugioGet:13 http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary/multiverse Release [99B] 03:11
pugio99% [Connecting to apt.cerkinfo.be (164.15.125.10)] 03:11
pugioit can't connect to apt.cerkinfo.be03:11
phesterhow do i mount a windows partition so i can copy files?03:11
pugioso the whole process dies03:11
pugioCould not connect to apt.cerkinfo.be:80 (164.15.125.10), connection timed out03:11
pugionow I'm stuck in the middle of an upgrade03:11
=== dazed_ [~knoppix@host-208-60-229-155.bhm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== wavefunction [~macaiba@200164053093.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu
=== neighborlee [~neighborl@d2-251.rb2.gh.centurytel.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== noflex [~noflex@D40AE672.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #ubuntu
=== Ivy6Quaff [~Sir@c906a0a6.virtua.com.br] has joined #ubuntu
=== njan [~james@james.user] has joined #ubuntu
=== The_Nalf [fabrice@AToulouse-251-1-28-235.w83-193.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu
pugioapt.cerkinfo.be is not connectable03:14
phesterno one who can tell me how to get access to a windows partition so I can copy files?03:14
dazed_on same box?03:14
eyequeuepugio:  if you rerun that command, will it try another machine?03:14
pugiono, it just does that one again ("that command" is that whole upgrade thing that we said before)03:14
phesterdazed_, different disk03:14
eyequeuepugio:  yeah03:15
=== TongMaster [~TongMaste@adsl-2-82.lo1.lns1.server-access.com] has joined #ubuntu
dazed_it should be listed as one of ur devices03:15
=== hayden [~hayden@203.219.130.10] has joined #ubuntu
dazed_just like another drive our mount03:15
dazed_should be hda2 or something to that nature03:15
eyequeuepugio:  "host archive.ubuntu.com"03:15
dazed_phester the /dev directory is where u can find them03:16
=== bretzel [~felix@modemcable128.237-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has left #ubuntu []
danixhi03:16
phesterok03:16
eyequeuepugio:  i get a completely different machine from apt.cerkinfo.be here03:16
pugiohmmm03:17
pugiowellErr http://apt.cerkinfo.be unstable/main Packages03:17
pugio  Could not connect to apt.cerkinfo.be:80 (164.15.125.10), connection timed out03:17
pugio77% [Connecting to apt.cerkinfo.be (164.15.125.10)] 03:17
eyequeuepugio:  comment that line out in your sources.list for now03:17
crimsunpugio: just comment it out03:17
eyequeuepugio: whatever is hosted there, you can add it back in tomorrow when the box is up03:18
phesterdazed_, I was told that you have to mount it first!03:18
phesterno idea how?03:18
=== stazich [~stazich@adsl-68-251-190-223.dsl.ipltin.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== bretzel [~felix@modemcable128.237-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu
pugioeyequeue: well, it's going now, thanks03:19
eyequeuepugio:  np03:19
pugioeyequeue: we shall see what else lays in store03:19
dazed_phester ...goto ur terminal /mnt <device>03:20
stazichi have problem playing my audio CDs, mp3s work but not the cd... does anyone know what could be the problem?03:20
dazed_you shouldnt have to mount it though03:20
dazed_it sould mount it when booting03:20
haydenwhat do the parameters -o and umask=0 do when you mount a drive?03:20
=== techn9ne [~jeremy@S0106000f66ddc57e.vc.shawcable.net] has left #ubuntu []
danixmissing a extract cable audio maybe?03:20
dazed_hayden man mnt03:21
haydenok03:21
phesterI dont find any thing under /dev03:21
eyequeuehayden:  man mount even :)03:21
hyphennameservers can't be dynamic, can they?03:22
dazed_im not too good at mounting devices so...type man mnt in the command to read up on it03:22
dazed_'man mnt'03:22
eyequeuedazed_:  mount, not mnt03:22
stazichwell i am not sure really... it is an iMac.. playback of CDs worked fine with OS9, but when i put ubuntu on the cdplayer identifies audio cd, starts playing the tracks, connects to CDDB etc. but NO SOUND... could it be codec or whatever else issue?03:22
=== noflex [~noflex@D40AE672.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #ubuntu
Quaruptwhy cant i just do apt-get install kubuntu03:22
dazed_yes your right eyeque03:22
=== Potato-Green [~Phiber@pool-138-88-155-84.esr.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu
Potato-Greencan anyone help me? im having problems on the install of ubuntu03:23
RiddellQuarupt: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop03:24
=== tims [~tims@c-24-21-58-44.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== waseem [~waseem@cpe-67-49-36-167.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
dazed_Quarupt next ttime apt-cache search <file> to get propper file name03:24
Quaruptwell i was just asking cause i thought we had to get the array 6 cd03:25
dazed_oh ok03:25
jeff_where can i find some cool linux games03:25
hypheni hate being a newb03:25
hyphenlol03:25
waseemHi I am using gtkpod for my iPod. It doesn't seem to be working so I want to disconnect my iPod. It is displaying the message "Do not disconnect", how can I make it safe to disconnect the iPod without corrupting any files on the computer or ipod. Thanks.03:25
Potato-Greenwhen I install unbuntu, it stops after a little while and i need help fixing it03:26
=== biquillo [~biquillo@162.Red-81-38-3.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu
jeff_Potato-Green, mabey your install cd is damaged03:26
dazed_whens it stop>03:26
Potato-Greenlemme check03:26
Potato-GreenACPI03:26
dazed_do you get through the cd part?03:26
Potato-Greenshould i turn it off?03:26
Potato-Greendazed_03:26
Potato-Greenit works03:26
dazed_so you didnt even get started03:27
Potato-Greenlike it extracts and all03:27
Potato-Greenyeah03:27
dazed_it extracts all from cd...then asks to reboot and then does it keep going from there?03:27
Potato-Greenno03:27
Potato-Greenit stops at acpi03:27
Potato-Greenshould i do acpi=off?03:27
=== FlyNavy [~flynavy@cable-68-114-115-219.sli.la.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu
dazed_you can try that...did you remove cd from drive?03:27
Potato-Greenno03:28
dazed_well...03:28
dazed_do that03:28
dazed_lol03:28
dazed_and try it03:28
Potato-Greenokay it went through03:28
Potato-Greenwith acpi=off03:28
dazed_ok03:28
Quaruptis kubuntu pretty stable?03:28
dazed_it was trying to read cd03:28
Potato-Greenlol i hate being a n00b03:28
=== diego [~diego@user-0cetu7o.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu
dazed_on the unpacking process03:28
Potato-Greenoh ok03:28
zenroxQuarupt,  just as stable as hoary03:28
diegohi all03:28
Quaruptcool03:28
diegoi guess there's no Macromedia Flash (creator) for linux, what are my alternatives?03:29
dazed_wine03:29
Quaruptanyone know a good beat maker, like Ejay Frootyloops and Reason, but for linux?03:29
dazed_and then03:29
dazed_try and install flash03:29
dazed_see if it works03:29
RiddellQuarupt: it's in the transition from kde 3.3 to 3.403:29
diegodazed_: i'd rather go open-source if possible03:29
bob2there was one03:29
bob2called rebirth03:29
bob2but the author took it down03:29
dazed_diego: best thing to do is google03:29
eyequeuediego:  google, freshmeat, sourceforge, ...03:30
=== noflex [~noflex@D40AE672.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #ubuntu
diegoand search for what?03:30
=== Flik [~flik@d207-6-196-246.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu
bob2that's not that useful advice03:30
bob2most useful software is already in ubuntu03:30
diegomaybe i shouldn't be using flash at all03:30
=== pablo928 [~paul@az-yuma-cuda1m-26.losaca.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu
diegoi don't care about using it on the web03:30
diegobesides a simple slide show, what else is there?03:31
eyequeuediego:  that to me is the most open-source-y solution :)03:31
=== cocol [~internet@84.119.222.16] has joined #ubuntu
dazed_search for Linux Flash Apps03:31
=== diego slaps dazed_
hyphenoy.  anyone care to help me with my internet connection & ubuntu?03:31
diegohyphen: what's the problem?03:32
hyphenwell eyequeu tried to help me already.  basically, everytime i try to browse a website, it takes a very long time to resolve the host03:32
hyphendownloading the actual page happens very quickly03:32
dazed_hyphen u on a network>03:32
dazed_?03:33
hyphenyeah03:33
=== edgarin [~edgarin@216.230.136.242] has joined #ubuntu
hyphenone of 2 machines in a lan03:33
dazed_windows network>?03:33
edgarinhello03:33
zenroxhyphen, have you put your routers ip addy in the dns server list03:33
diegoso basically i need something more visually appealing than a presentation, and it should have layers...03:33
hyphenthe routers ip address is already in03:33
dazed_is the 2nd machine windows machine?03:33
zenroxok03:33
hyphenyes dazed03:33
=== avirox [xavior@pool-151-205-98-7.ny325.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu
aviroxcrap03:33
hyphena wireless connection03:33
aviroxi screwed something up in ubuntu03:33
dazed_ok well u need samba03:33
diegohyphen: "very long"? seconds or minutes?03:33
hyphenseconds03:34
hyphenusually around 20 seconds03:34
hyphenwhat's samba?03:34
=== dchlase [~Dan@c-67-162-235-5.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
dazed_hyphen: use synaptic select all packages scroll down to samba and install03:34
eyequeuedazed_:  but his concern is that dns resolution is slow, for the internet, not for the lan03:34
diegodazed_: did you even READ what samba said?03:34
hyphenah, okay, i'll try that03:34
=== thoreauputic [~debianarc@wolax6-231.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
diegodazed_: samba is a microsoft file-sharing protocol03:34
aviroxbrb03:34
diegohyphen: stop03:34
hyphenack03:34
hyphenk03:34
dazed_diego03:34
hyphen?03:34
diegodazed_: slow dns resolution != microsoft filesharing03:34
dazed_diego: it helps configure the internet onnectino if the machine hosting the conn is microsoft03:35
dazed_trust me i did it last night03:35
edgarin[root@maquina1 root]  # apt-get install swat03:35
edgarinReading Package Lists... Done03:35
edgarinBuilding Dependency Tree... Done03:35
edgarinThe following extra packages will be installed:03:35
edgarin  samba03:35
edgarinThe following NEW packages will be installed:03:35
edgarin  samba swat03:35
dazed_same prob03:35
edgarin0 upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 to remove and 6 not upgraded.03:35
bob2edgarin: please don't paste in here03:35
edgarinNeed to get 0B/6239kB of archives.03:35
edgarinAfter unpacking 15.1MB of additional disk space will be used.03:35
edgarinDo you want to continue? [Y/n]  y03:35
edgarinPreconfiguring packages ...03:35
edgarinSelecting previously deselected package samba.03:35
pablo928diego: had the same problem...changed to a different router and now no problem.03:35
edgarin(Reading database ... 85971 files and directories currently installed.)03:35
edgarinUnpacking samba (from .../samba_3.0.7-1ubuntu6.3_i386.deb) ...03:35
edgarinSelecting previously deselected package swat.03:35
edgarinUnpacking swat (from .../swat_3.0.7-1ubuntu6.3_i386.deb) ...03:35
diegoedgarin: wtf stop03:35
edgarinSetting up samba (3.0.7-1ubuntu6.3) ...03:35
edgarin * Starting Samba daemons..                                              [fail] 03:35
edgarininvoke-rc.d: initscript samba, action "start" failed.03:35
edgarindpkg: error processing samba (--configure):03:35
edgarin subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 103:36
edgarindpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of swat:03:36
edgarin swat depends on samba (= 3.0.7-1ubuntu6.3); however:03:36
hyphenthat's why this chan needs ops :P03:36
edgarin  Package samba is not configured yet.03:36
dazed_no pasting03:36
edgarindpkg: error processing swat (--configure):03:36
edgarin dependency problems - leaving unconfigured03:36
dazed_jeeze03:36
edgarinErrors were encountered while processing:03:36
edgarin samba03:36
diegowow03:36
edgarin swat03:36
edgarinE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)03:36
edgarincan you help me?03:36
edgarinis a proble with samba03:36
diegook let me scroll up 300 pages03:36
edgarindiego: ok03:36
dazed_edgarin: dont paste in here use  a paste bin03:36
diegonow that he's being ignored03:36
edgarindiego: can you help me?03:36
edgarinaja..03:36
=== hayden [~hayden@203-219-130-10-qld.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
diegohyphen: tell me about the physical topology of your network03:36
hyphenthe microsoft box is conencted via wireless connection03:37
haydeni just installed warty03:37
haydeninstalled samba,03:37
ellsis anyone familiar on how to make .img files in linux03:37
haydenhow do i mount a smb share?03:37
ellsI was told that is the way to copy dvds03:37
hyphenand im straight into the router03:37
zenroxhayden,  read www.ubuntuguide.org on how to mount a smb share03:37
=== nomasteryoda [~nomastery@ip24-252-193-86.mc.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu
diegohyphen: so just a regular router feeding 2 nodes03:38
edgarinCan you help me?03:38
hyphenyep03:38
diegohyphen: and this router is not made by microsoft?03:38
=== niall [~niall@213.94.235.176] has joined #ubuntu
edgarinhyphen: can you help me?03:39
hypheniit's an airlink router03:39
=== ewhitte1 [~eric@h000d93cb4647.ne.client2.attbi.com] has joined #ubuntu
hyphenedgarin: i'd love to, but i'm a newb and need help myself03:39
diegohyphen: ok, so samba is definitely not applicable03:39
hyphenah03:39
diegohyphen: your linux box is plugged in with an ethernet cable to the router, then?03:39
nialli'm a newbie also.  I need help in getting a logitech quickcam to work03:39
pablo928hyphen: can you bypass your router?03:40
hyphendiego: yeah.03:40
johnnybezakguys I need to make a bunch of thumbnails is there a cli program that i can use? (so that I can just do them all at once, instead of manually which would be a pain)03:40
hyphenpablo: not sure, let me try03:40
ellsis anyone familiar on how to make .img files in linux03:40
=== Suvroc [Corvus@85.86.233.133] has joined #ubuntu
=== noflex [~noflex@D40AE672.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #ubuntu
pablo928diego: had the same problem as hyphen....had to change routers.03:41
diegohyphen: ok, /msg me the output of `ifconfig -a` please03:41
diegojohnnybezak: look into imagemagick03:41
diegoi think imagemagick's 'convert' program can do that03:41
johnnybezakdiego: ok thanks03:41
ellsis anyone familiar on how to make .img files in linux03:41
diegopablo928: i heard you the first time but that hardly seems like the logical solution right now :)03:42
eyequeuetouch foo.img, lol03:42
=== bur[n] er [~norml@c-67-173-243-73.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
diegoeyequeue: haha03:42
hyphendiego: it says command not found03:42
eyequeueells:  what is it?03:42
diegohyphen: as root (`sudo ifconfig -a`)03:42
ellseyequeue, I am trying to maka a viewable dvd for my player03:42
hyphentried, it gave me the same03:42
ellsusing vobs03:42
=== avirox [xavior@pool-151-205-105-181.ny325.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu
hyphenPassword:03:42
hyphensudo: ipconfig: command not found03:42
hyphenhyphen@ubuntu:~ $03:42
diegoi said ifconfig, ipconfig is M$03:43
aviroxok I'm not exactly sure how I did this, but now whenever i load up ubuntu I'm stuck in a dos-text terminal03:43
eyequeueells:  okay, the reason i ask is, filename extensions don't mean much in linux, so file type is a bit more informative03:43
hyphenoy03:43
aviroxi think it happened when i accidentally pressed ctrl_alt+backspace while in the OS03:43
aviroxI dont know how to get out of it tho :/03:43
ellseyequeue, what would you suggest03:43
=== danielr [~daniel@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu
eyequeueells:  "touch foo.img" would make one, but it sure would not be what you wanted :)  if i knew more ab out dvd creation, i could help better.  let me look at something, but meanwhile, someone else may know03:44
ellsokay03:44
aviroxi'm stuck in a  text console basically03:44
cocolavirox: startx03:45
aviroxi just type that in?03:45
ellsis anyone familiar with dvdrip03:45
aviroxafter logging in?03:45
Xappeavirox, yes03:45
aviroxthank you very much!03:46
eyequeueells:  actually, let me give you the command i just ran, "apt-cache search dvd | less"  scroll through that output and see which might seem best for you03:46
neighborlee:(need suggsetion...I need to be able to get the latest ( 6629 ) nvidia but ..when I try to dpkg nvida-glx for that version..it complain about missing nvidai-kernel-6629..and sadly that one is only a virtual package.....what now ? :(((( ( I must use new one a I've having errors in my app with 6111)03:46
cocolyeap avirox03:46
ellseyequeue, cool03:46
=== housetier_ [~housetier@dsl-084-056-132-093.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== BROKEN_LADDER [~BROKEN@h-68-164-187-45.snfccasy.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #UBUNTU
=== allio [~omfg@203.184.28.243] has joined #ubuntu
cocolas user avirox03:47
=== carthik [~carthik@user-0c6saeq.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== ewhitte1 [~eric@h000d93cb4647.ne.client2.attbi.com] has left #ubuntu []
=== hayden [~hayden@203-219-130-10-qld.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
=== bear_afk [~bear@pcp08490351pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== avirox [xavior@pool-68-161-25-50.ny325.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu
stazichi have problem playing my audio CDs, mp3s work but not the cd... does anyone know what could be the problem?03:50
aviroxstarx didnt work03:50
=== Hell-Razor [~Hell-Razo@66-188-89-111.mad.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu
haydeni've installed samba, but when i do sudo smbmount... it says command not found smbmount?03:50
aviroxi got "command not found"03:50
avirox:/03:50
avirox*startx03:50
=== kossu [~kossu@adsl-248-58.kymp.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== _phate_ [~phate@c-67-166-69-185.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
Hell-Razorhey guys i was just wondering how advanced is ubuntu.. i migrated from gentoo to fedora, now im looking for a better distro than fedora because yum totally sucks.03:51
haydendw i found03:51
cocoltry "shutdown" and rstart03:51
=== housetier_ is now known as housetier
bear_afktrying to decide what OS to install on my amd64 server - does ubuntu work correctly on amd64?03:52
aviroxcocol: i tried reboot and logout03:52
aviroxwould "shutdown" make a difference?03:52
_phate_is there away to access audio on a CD digitally like you can in windows?03:52
cocolshutdown or halt03:52
cocoltry it avirox03:53
timsI have amd64 and switched to i386 distro due to issues03:53
aviroxk03:53
bear_afktims: thanks - and the i386 runs cleanly?03:53
timsyes, i386 is nice.. esp. hoary03:53
tizenhey guys... How can I optimize my ubuntu system with an ATI Radeon 8500, i find many graphics things are using a ton of CPU, so I'm getting it's software based03:54
bear_afkthanks03:54
timsthe amd64 works for most things, but I'll wait for others to straighten it out03:54
aviroxok cocol03:54
cocolsucceedd?03:54
bear_afktims: yea, I don't have the free time to be a hardware tester ;)03:54
_phate_crap peer got another...03:54
tizenAlso, often i leave my computer for a while and when i come back Gaim is dead03:55
_phate_I'd love to be a hardware tester, I have plenty of time, provided that the hardware is free ;)03:55
bear_afk:)03:56
=== pablo928 [~paul@az-yuma-cuda1m-26.losaca.adelphia.net] has left #ubuntu []
bear_afkhmm, is there a place to download hoary - or is it going to be an apt-get session after a warty install?03:56
tizenbear_afk: topic03:56
_phate_iirc its a new cd03:56
tizenthe array-6 one03:56
Hell-Razoris the ubuntu a gui install?03:56
bear_afkgaa - yea, just saw the topic - tanks03:56
diegoHell-Razor: not really03:57
diegoHell-Razor: it's menu-driven though03:57
timsyou could use array 6 but I'd start with array 5 of hoary03:57
timsfewer issues03:57
Hell-Razordiego: is it like pritty easy to use? or do you have to tell it "this is my hd, this is where its located, ect" like in gentoo installation03:57
=== Suvroc is now known as Corvus
tizentims: what kind of issues?03:58
tizenI just installed it03:58
timsor start with warty, don't update until after you change sources.lst to hoary03:58
diegoHell-Razor: there is no gentoo installation. heh.03:58
timsDon't remember exactly.. I'm from warty.. but folks keep popping in here with array 6 install probs03:58
diegoHell-Razor: yeah it's very easy. the only part that's only slightly a pain is if you want to do a custom partitioning scheme03:58
Hell-Razordiego: im just trying to say, does it mostly auuto detect stuff03:58
=== bear_afk waves
=== _phate_ [~phate@phate-0002.user] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
bear_afkthanks for the info03:59
=== bear_afk [~bear@pcp08490351pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
Hell-Razordiego: alright03:59
=== _phate_ [~phate@phate-0002.user] has joined #ubuntu
diegoHell-Razor: and there's always in here if you run into troubles, but it really shouldn't be an issue, specially if you've done a gentoo install03:59
bluefoxicyhey03:59
timsonly issue I've had was a Geforce 6800 under warty.. but it's documented.. works hassle-free with hoary04:00
bluefoxicyubuntu's installer won't choke on 64 megs of memory will ti?04:00
Hell-Razordiego: is there a need to print out the how-to for installation04:00
diegoHell-Razor: i didn't even know of one heh04:00
=== IRCMonkey [~chatzilla@144.139.139.232] has joined #ubuntu
=== knucks [~chatzilla@pcp01189996pcs.waldlk01.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
Hell-Razordiego: alright...i guess thats a good sign....15 seconds till i burn the bitch04:00
diegoHell-Razor: if you plan on wiping the entire drive and you know your hardware works, you should only have to hit next a few times04:00
knucksis there a way to alt+ctrl+del a prog in linux?04:01
timssudo kill -9 :)04:01
Hell-Razordiego: i have two harddrive i want to copletly whipe out04:01
=== fr500 [~andres@200.63.228.143] has joined #ubuntu
fr500hey04:01
tizenbluefoxicy: Shouldn't... Debian's didn't.04:01
_phate_I wouldn't do the three finger salute in linux, you'll only reboot your sys04:01
BronchoHi, I am new to linuz and I have an ATI graphics card. I was getting an error about/.ICEauthority saying it cant boot but now Gnome boots and then freezes up complelty when I move the mouse around04:01
fr500hello04:01
andrewskiknucks: or gnome-system-monitor04:01
=== error_29 [~bru@24-90-94-112.nyc.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
andrewskiknucks: i'm back if you still need help; sorry about that.04:01
fr500anyone has been able to create audio disk with gnomebaker?04:01
ellsanyone have experience with copying your average video dvds04:01
knucksandrewski: naw i got it04:02
ellsthat will play on your home dvd player04:02
Hell-Razordiego: harddrive(s)04:02
knucksrunning hoary now04:02
knuckshow do i launch the gnome thing u just said?04:02
fr500let me rephrase to proper english04:02
diegoHell-Razor: not sure what it does at that point, but i think it'll automatically wipe one for sure04:02
fr500has anyone been able to create audio disks with gnomebaker?04:02
fr500mine freezes at the converting part04:03
timsis the ubuntu update manager in warty?04:03
andrewskiknucks: good :)  didn't mean to bail; my girlfriend came over (unexpectedly) and we needed to have a talk.  you need to install gnome-system-monitor, don't know if it is by default.04:03
Hell-Razordiego: heh alright...have you ever installed fedora?04:03
diegoHell-Razor: i guess just let it do its thing and then wipe the other one manually once you've booted into your machine04:03
diegoHell-Razor: no, closes thing is RH904:03
diegoclosest*04:03
knuckshow do i do it then andrewski?04:03
ellsanyone have experience with copying your average video dvds04:03
Bronchoanyone have any ideas on my problems with the freeszing?04:03
Hell-Razordiego: alright well is it that strait forward for install? im just trying to see what im getting myself into04:03
andrewskiknucks: uh, i think it's in the menus... applications | system?04:03
diegoHell-Razor: i really think you'll be fine04:04
Bronchoells only on windows havnt had a chan ce on linux yet04:04
OddAbe19has anyone experienced a 'super applications' menu in Hoary? it seems like my Debian merged with all other menus04:04
diegoHell-Razor: it's exactly like a windows xp install in difficulty04:04
Hell-Razordiego: lol alright...by computer is going down now...i shuold be back in not too long =)04:04
andrewskiknucks: or `gnome-system-monitor`04:04
Hell-Razordiego: wow thats pritty simple04:04
tizenHey, if I install xorg-driver-fglrx with synaptic does it add it all to the X server?04:04
diegoHell-Razor: ~40 minutes on a pentium3 fyi04:04
=== johnnybezak [~johnnybez@203-173-46-207.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu
ellsBroncho, yeap, I can burn dvd material, but not able to play it in my dvd player04:05
=== housetier [~housetier@dsl-084-056-132-093.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu
Bronchowhat type of dvd playter?04:05
Hell-Razordiego: i run a amd 64(but not gunna use 64bit installation) 3700+ pc4400 1 gig ddr2 ram04:05
=== avirox [xavior@pool-151-205-186-215.ny325.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu
fr500hmmm04:05
fr500noone?04:05
knucksAndrewski: got it04:05
knucksthanks04:05
aviroxcocol didnt work04:05
avirox:/04:05
calcgood waste of processor power running i386 on an amd64 :)04:05
aviroxI'm still stuck in text mode04:05
diegoHell-Razor: should be about half a second by my calculations04:05
ellsanyone have experience with copying your average video dvds04:05
diegoheh04:05
Hell-Razorcalc: yea but 32bit emulation totaly BLOWS so far04:05
aviroxor whatever the hell it is04:05
diegoor maybe 20-30 minutes04:05
errrells: I use k3b for doing it04:06
calcHell-Razor: works fine if you know what you are doing :)04:06
OddAbe19has anyone experienced a 'super applications' menu in Hoary? it seems like my Debian merged with all other menus04:06
knuckshm this is weird04:06
knucksi cant seem to close limewire04:06
johnnybezakhey guys04:06
knucksbut itsnot listed04:06
calcand so far i have only needed it once04:06
Hell-Razorcalc: hrm really? people told me not to do it cause its hella pain04:06
andrewskiknucks: no problem; i don't really use it (prefer kill(all)), but it's nice to have around04:06
haydenhas anyone got a link on how to get mplayer working in warty04:06
calcHell-Razor: there is very little need for 32bit support04:06
andrewskiknucks: try `killall -9 limewire`04:06
Hell-Razorcalc: gaming04:06
timscalc: true, but honestly it's decently fast anyway04:06
fr500hayden, it works, in command line mode04:06
calci only used it for tracking down compiler issues04:06
errrwith an ATI radeon 7500 any ideas why Xorg would lock up with mouse movement04:06
knucksno process killed..04:06
fr500hayden, you have to get source for it to have a gui04:06
knucksbut its sitting in the bottom bar :/04:06
haydenyea04:07
calctims: well amd64 arch is much faster when not running in i386 mode04:07
haydenneed to add mirilliat to sources list04:07
calcat least the athlon chips are, i hear the prescotts are actually slower most of the time04:07
fr500oh whats that04:07
andrewskiknucks: hmm.  i've heard bad things about it... in general.04:07
fr500where can i find those repos04:07
OddAbe19has anyone experienced a 'super applications' menu in Hoary? it seems like my Debian merged with all other menus04:07
haydenbut i dont know the exact address or something04:07
cocolavirox, :(04:07
fr500hayden i built from source, no big deal04:07
knuckseh ill end up turning off my pc for tonigh ti guess04:08
aviroxcan anyone else help me? I'm stuck in a bash text-only console, and even when i reboot that's all i see. startx gets me "command not found" =/04:08
errravirox: install an xserver04:08
haydenok04:08
errrwith an ATI radeon 7500 any ideas why Xorg would lock up with mouse movement04:08
aviroxerrr how?04:09
errrman apt-get04:09
Xappeavirox, warty or hoary?04:09
aviroxhoary04:09
IRCMonkeyAnyone know about Ubuntu support for winmodems?  Specifically, a D-Link DFM-5621S HSFi PCI (according to winxp).04:09
haydenfr500, i found the website http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=18443&highlight=mplayer04:09
Xappeavirox, apt-get install xserver-xorg04:09
diegoIRCMonkey: get off dial-up :)04:09
Xappeavirox, use sudo04:09
fr500hayden, thanks04:10
hyphenIn case anyone wants to know, diego = god.  lol, disabling the ipv6 fixed my entire problem04:10
aviroxXappe can i do that even if i m not connected to the net?04:10
errrXappe: should you apt-get build-dep xserver-xorg  first?04:10
diegohyphen is referring to disabling ipv6 in about:config in firefox04:10
hyphenyes, indeed04:10
diegoheh04:10
IRCMonkeyyeah,thanks diego.  Seriously though, is it worth even thinking about it?04:10
errravirox: no.04:10
Potato-Greenwow04:11
OddAbe19has anyone experienced a 'super applications' menu in Hoary? it seems like my Debian merged with all other menus04:11
Xappeavirox, do you have a hoary cd?04:11
aviroxyes04:11
Potato-Greeni like that firefox is installed automatically on warty04:11
diegoIRCMonkey: i'm not sure, i started using linux sometime in the summer and i was on broadband at the time...try appending +linux to your model number and searching google04:11
Xappeavirox, then you should be able to apt-get from the cd04:11
aviroxah ok04:11
aviroxthanx04:11
fr500so noone uses gnomebaker?04:11
aviroxafter i do that then what do i do?04:11
aviroxtype in "startx" ?04:11
IRCMonkeycheers diego04:11
=== johnnybezak [~johnnybez@203-173-46-207.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu
Xappeavirox, probably04:12
aviroxheh k04:12
aviroxthx04:12
diegoavirox: is gnome installed?04:12
knucksaight good night everyone04:13
aviroxdiego i think so04:13
aviroxi got into this mess by pressing alt+ctrl+backspace04:13
avirox(i think)04:13
timsis there expose for gnome?04:14
OddAbe19has anyone experienced a 'super applications' menu in Hoary? it seems like my Debian merged with all other menus04:14
Xappeavirox, ctrl+alt+backspace should just restart x04:14
andrewskitims: there's a program like it... search expose linux and maybe you'll get it...04:14
hypheni've got another question, this is more on personal opinion though04:15
diegowow my internet just crapped itself for a sec04:15
Potato-Greencan anyone tell me where i can get the wallpaper on baham's post on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=18430&page=3&pp=1004:15
Potato-Green?04:15
=== hayden [~hayden@203-219-130-10-qld.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
johnnybezakhey guys i've got a bunch of files called like filename.jpg.* how can I change them all to *.jpg (so instead of filename.jpg.1 to 1.jpg etc.)04:15
diegoavirox: did you try a `sudo init 5` ? heh04:15
aviroxXappe didnt for me hehe04:15
hyphenwhat would you folks recommend for running windows apps?04:15
aviroxdiego wuzzat?04:15
cocolOddAbe19, sudo remove xdp?04:15
andrewskigo for it hyphen :)04:15
diegoOddAbe19: if you're talking about Applications -> Debian, i have one of those04:15
johnnybezakhypen: what do you want to run04:15
hyphenive heard of wine, but i'd like to hear what you folks prefer04:15
hyphenwell, mainly my 3d applications04:15
hyphenmaya 6.5 and 3d studio maxc04:16
OddAbe19i have debian menu, it was fine till about a month ago when it seems like it merged into all other menus04:16
aviroxdiego should i use that?04:16
OddAbe19i have a screenie04:16
fr500hyphen, windows?04:16
diegoavirox: switch runlevel 5 (5 is gui and stuff)04:16
fr500xp04:16
hyphenalso photoshop and i'd like to be able to watch my encoded videos04:16
diegoavirox: switch to*04:16
OddAbe19http://home.comcast.net/~amsilveira/screenie.jpg04:16
johnnybezakhyphen: give wine a crack04:16
fr500hyphen, seriously crossover office is nice enough04:16
hyphenah04:16
Potato-Greenwhere can i get themes for ubuntu?04:16
johnnybezakhyphen: you can probably watch those vids with linuxx04:16
hyphenive tried04:17
aviroxdiego so i just type that in and i get back? :o04:17
johnnybezakPotato-Green: gnome-look.org04:17
Potato-Greenthanks04:17
diegoOddAbe19: hmm..sucks...04:17
hyphenmost of them are divx media files04:17
OddAbe19diego, yeah04:17
diegoavirox: with a bit of luck04:17
aviroxO.o04:17
aviroxk, thanks guys, will try ^^04:17
johnnybezakhyphen: try installing mplayer, get the extra codecs of f their web page should work fine04:17
Bronchoanyone that can help me with ATI card, it seems to be why my computer is freezing up04:17
hyphenjohnnybezak: got a url for me?04:17
johnnybezakhyphen: mplayerhq.hu :)04:18
haydenOddAbe19, what was that dock on the screenshot called?04:18
johnnybezakhyphen: mplayer is in multiverse though04:18
OddAbe19not a dock, just a panel04:18
hyphenin laymen's terms?04:18
OddAbe19set clear04:18
johnnybezakhyphen: you'll only need to get the extra codecs04:18
hyphenoh04:18
diegohyphen: have you been to http://ubuntuguide.org? it's got a ton of stuff you might want, including divx playback stuff04:18
johnnybezakhyphen: hehe you can synaptic mpayer04:18
hyphenoh sweet04:18
=== Hell-Razor [~Hell-Razo@66-188-89-111.mad.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu
fr500johnnybezak, that version is gui-less04:19
hyphenim still getting used to synaptic and apt04:19
Hell-Razorcould somebody help me out04:19
johnnybezakfr500: no it's not04:19
fr500lol04:19
fr500yes it is04:19
johnnybezakfr500: gmplayer04:19
=== neighborlee [~neighborl@d2-251.rb2.gh.centurytel.net] has joined #ubuntu
fr500oh, well that gui is not good for me04:19
Hell-Razori downlaoded and burnt the ubuntu cd, buwt when i go to install it it says " this is an un-ubuntu cd please enter it intot he cdrom "04:19
fr500mplayer has a very nice gui04:19
johnnybezakfr500: gmplayer is the gui, you can get more skins off freshmeat or the mplayer website04:20
haydenfr500, is there a way to customize keyboard keys e.g. to turn up the volume using the up arrow etc04:20
diegoHell-Razor: "when i go to install it"?04:20
hyphenthis has got to be the most informative irc chan i've ever been to, har.04:20
fr500hayden, not sure, i use xine04:20
haydenok04:20
Hell-Razordiego: auito boot form the cd to install ubuntu04:20
=== CygnusX1 [~CygnusX1@pcp0011532268pcs.monticello.in.ftwayne.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
Potato-Greendoes anyone know where i can get the wallpaper from -baHam-'s post on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=18430&page=3&pp=10 ?04:21
Hell-Razordiego: do i need debian as a base or something then install it?04:21
=== diego feels funny helping and not asking for help (except for when i first joined)
hyphenbetter to give than to recieve :P04:21
andrewskidiego: it's a fun transition. :)04:21
diegoHell-Razor: uh..no, ubuntu doesn't depend on anything04:21
haydenis there a list of support wifi cards?04:22
CygnusX1Is array6??? ready for use?04:22
haydensupported*04:22
Hell-Razordiego: well wtf it said that its an un-ubuntu cd04:22
diegoHell-Razor: are you sure it didn't say "Press enter"? and what is un-ubuntu?04:22
Potato-Greenthe wallpaper in this actually - http://img71.exs.cx/img71/3006/Screenshot13.jpg04:22
Potato-Greenanyone know where i can get that?04:22
hyphenhell-razor did you boot from your cd-rom?04:23
Hell-Razordiego: yes because it said that i need to delete and mount the cd once again04:23
Hell-Razorhyphen: yes04:23
diegoHell-Razor: what's the filename of the iso you burned?04:23
diegoHell-Razor: also, do you know if you hardware works with linux?04:24
Hell-Razordiego: warty-realease-install-1386.iso04:24
Hell-Razordiego: well im running linux right now so yes04:24
=== poningru [~Poningru@n128-227-51-21.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #ubuntu
fr500hyphen, very informative, but today noone has helped me on gnomebaker04:24
=== bretzel [~felix@modemcable128.237-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has left #ubuntu []
andrewskiPotato-Green: oh, that's andidas, i think.  i used to have that one...04:24
andrewskiPotato-Green: i've seen that one too; look on forum.xfce.org in the art section; someone posted about icon themes....04:25
hyphenfr500: ah, i wish i could help.  i'm still trying to get used to using linux04:25
Potato-Greenokay04:25
Potato-Greenthanks04:25
fr500hyphen, same here04:25
diegoHell-Razor: interesting04:25
diegoHell-Razor: so it did that right away or when it was detecting hardware?04:25
andrewskiPotato-Green: sorry i can't be of more help.04:26
Xappefr500, i'm using graveman since it's present in the hoary repos (though you have to recompile it for mp3-support)04:26
Hell-Razordiego: um it was the step afer i selected american english or something like that04:26
fr500Xappe, thx, gnomebaker burns just fine for data, the problem is the conversion part04:26
carthikI have a problem with the Keyboard on my laptop, each time I restart X, or the laptop, some keys don't work04:26
fr500Xappe, i'll give it a try04:26
hyphenso, what should i use for playing back mp3s?04:26
Xappehyphen, xmms maybe?04:27
Potato-Greennaw andrewski you helped alot04:27
diegoi use xmms or beep media player04:27
carthikTo make the keys work again, i have to go to preferences->keyboard and change from 104-key layout to 105-key layout or vice-versa04:27
carthikwhy is this so?04:27
hyphenah04:27
hypheni'll check out xmms04:27
Hell-Razordiego: i dont know what to do04:27
=== VR^ [VR@154-111.200-68.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
diegoHell-Razor: yeah i'm thinking, i'm thinking04:27
fr500hyphen, try beep-media-player04:27
diegoHell-Razor: did you verify the checksum of the iso?04:27
fr500hyphen, is better form an user perspective04:28
fr500imho04:28
hyphenah04:28
hyphenokay04:28
hyphenand i'm trying to understand the concept of the repository04:28
fr500if u need help for wma support tell me04:28
=== OmniColossus is now known as OC_ZzZZZzZ
Hell-Razordiego: nope i did not..dont know how to eather04:28
carthikHelp, anyone - i sure mustn;t be the only one with this wacko keyboard problem?04:28
=== avirox [xavior@pool-151-205-163-134.ny325.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu
aviroxg'ah04:28
diegohyphen: fyi, beep media player is a fork of xmms and they're really bringing it up to date, but it's in sort of early stages04:28
fr500hyphen, is a place where a lot of packages are located with all the required dependencies04:28
diegoin early stages*04:28
diegothere goes my internet again :(04:28
aviroxi reinstalled xserver-xorg04:29
hyphenah04:29
aviroxthen typed in "Startx"04:29
aviroxstill bad command :/04:29
hyphenoh04:29
diegoHell-Razor: ok, where you downloaded the iso, try to find an md5sum..(a 32-character long string of hex)04:29
JDahlthe default fonts in Hoary are too big for my liking... normally I would just manually swap the 100dpi and 75dpi lines in xorg.conf... is there configuration I should use instead?04:29
diegoavirox: startx, not Startx04:29
fr500hyphen, the idea is resolving dependencies for you04:30
diegoJDahl: yeah, preferences -> font04:30
aviroxi did it lowercase04:30
hyphenhrmm04:30
fr500a major turndown for me was looking around for dependencies04:30
diegoJDahl: (under details, at the top)04:30
fr500and compiling and installing them04:30
hyphenah04:30
Hell-Razordiego...and how the hell would i do that04:30
hyphenso where are all of these files stored?04:30
hyphensome universal ubuntu server or something?04:31
=== membreya [~membreya@c211-28-78-53.sunsh3.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
JDahldiego, cool... thanks04:31
=== iceaxe18 [~iceaxe18@c-24-18-111-235.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
diegoHell-Razor: if you look on http://ubuntu.hands.com/releases/4.10/ there's an md5sums file you can get04:31
aviroxdiego is there a folder i should be in when i execuse startx?04:31
fr500hyphen, the repositories have their servers and mirrors i think04:31
diegoavirox: no04:31
hyphenah04:32
hyphenthat's such a gnarly concept04:32
fr500hyphen, the magic of open source, everyone tries to help04:32
hyphenyeah i noticed, and i love it04:32
=== davix [~lama@85-65-146-254.barak.net.il] has joined #ubuntu
fr500i have a very nice desktop now04:32
aviroxdiego: any other things i might try?04:32
Hell-Razordiego: oh sorry the linux i have right now has a md5sum...im checking it wirhgt now04:32
fr500and i'm building 2 "embedded" ubuntu pcs04:32
aviroxi tried "sudo init 5" but it just said "sent TERM" and 2 other command04:33
aviroxs04:33
fr5001. ubuntu media center04:33
aviroxthen nothing04:33
haydenlol04:33
Hell-Razordiego: a491903a2d2197651864dec3836d85e0  /home/justin/warty-release-install-i386.iso04:33
diegoHell-Razor: well you need to check the file, and that'll give you along string of hex, then you make sure it's the right string04:33
fr5002. ubuntu navigation system for a raid i'm gonna participate in04:33
haydenfr500, u mean ubuntu media center 2005 professional xp edition?04:33
=== tsume [~tsume@freebsd0.dcrin3.com] has joined #ubuntu
fr500hayden, my idea is ubuntu media center + wifi access point/ics router04:34
diegoHell-Razor: yeah it's right04:34
fr500hehe04:34
tsumeubuntu is based off debian yes?04:34
johnnybezakyep04:34
tsumeis ubuntu good for developers?04:34
diegoHell-Razor: now i'm stumped04:34
diegotsume: it is based off debian04:34
diegotsume: what kind of development?04:34
tsumeI'm wanting a linux that "just works", but also want to make sure its easy04:34
tsumediego: C/C++ work04:34
fr500hayden, it's almost done now, except the case04:34
Hell-Razordiego: lemme try this again if it doesnt workt hen im going to download the 64bit one...which i dont really want to do04:34
tsumediego: networking systems, etc04:34
haydenahh yea04:34
fr500a carpenter is doing an ubuntu shaped box for my via board04:35
haydenlol04:35
tsumeI haven't been in the linux community in a _long_ time04:35
diegotsume: i think ubuntu fits your match, be sure to get the build-essential package for gcc and all that good stuff04:35
haydenthat'll be pretty sweet04:35
tsumediego: what about gcc?04:35
Zugothow do i install the 686 version of 2.6.10-4 kernel?04:35
haydenyou'll have to post photos on the ubuntu forums or something fr50004:35
fr500sometime when it's done i will04:35
tsumediego: do they have the latest builds every so often besides 6 months?04:35
diegotsume: build-essential is a package that depends on gcc and a few other things that you'll certainly find useful as a c/c++ dev04:35
tsumediego: features are also my thing(tm)04:36
fr500i'm worried aa bit about cooling, wood gets on fire rather easily04:36
johnnybezaktsume: yep you can be bleeding edge if you want04:36
fr500so i'll have to do a metal inner case or something04:36
johnnybezakfr500: haha04:36
haydenlol yea04:36
Potato-Greencan anyone help me install gdesklets?04:36
diegotsume: there's the unofficial backports project if you want something newer without stepping up to the development release04:36
tsumediego: is propolice in gcc?04:36
=== Wsquared [~wweckesse@cpe-24-59-199-217.twcny.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
aviroxanyone else have any ideas?04:36
Potato-Greenive got the terminal up04:36
Potato-Greenand im in the folder for gdesklets04:36
=== Wsquared is now known as WW
tsumealso known as ssp04:36
diegotsume: the next release is coming up in early april though so it's not far away04:36
Potato-Greenand i run ./configure04:36
fr500still waiting for my warty cds for "mass production" though04:37
fr500:o04:37
Zugothow do i tell which package owns a file?04:37
Potato-Greenand it tells me i have no acceptable c compiler04:37
tsumewhy should I choose ubuntu over a different distro?04:37
johnnybezakPotatato-Green: you need gcc04:37
Potato-Greengcc?04:37
tsumelike ie redhat, mandrake, commercial.04:37
fr500tsume, it's too damn cool04:37
eyequeueZugot:  dpkg -S /path/to/file04:37
johnnybezakgnu compiler04:37
diegotsume: are those programs?04:37
aviroxdiego, well thanx anyhow04:37
Potato-Greenand04:37
Potato-Green*ah04:37
Potato-Greenokay04:37
diegoavirox: yeah sorry i'm not of much help to ya04:37
aviroxheh sok04:37
aviroxbtw04:38
tsumediego: ssp(propolice) is a buffer overflow checker system integrated in gcc04:38
johnnybezakcos ubuntu has a future04:38
aviroxdoes that init 5 command reboot?04:38
fr500tsume, it's free, has great support (here) a great community, great repositories, is very stable and it's fast for me04:38
aviroxmaybe i should give it more time or something04:38
tsumediego: its from ibm, it would need to be manually added04:38
diegotsume: i'm not a c/c++ dev myself, do you know how i could check?04:38
tsumediego: cc -v04:38
johnnybezakit's free as in freedom04:38
tsumegcc version 3.4.3 [DragonFly]  (propolice, visibility)04:38
johnnybezakand beer (d/l or get the cd's from the website)04:38
fr500and has free cds for you04:38
fr500!!!04:38
aviroxnite04:39
fr500will there be hoary cds?04:39
aviroxi guess I'll have to reinstall ubuntu and lose all my data04:39
avirox:(04:39
diegotsume: may i /msg that to you?04:39
=== _phate_ [~phate@phate-0002.user] has joined #ubuntu
johnnybezakfr500: i would assume so04:39
tsumebsd is a nice OS.. however when I need development tools, its not always for BSD04:39
tsumediego: sure.04:39
fr500cool04:39
GammaRayavirox: why would you need to do that?04:40
tsumeand the fact that dfbsd lacks wchar support eats me alive04:40
fr500tsume, i think ubuntu is focused as a desktop distro (or at least i  hope that so)04:40
fr500i like the fact of one 500mb cd havingall the stuff most people need04:40
_phate_I tried enabling Windows Networking in the Network Settings Applet but it says I need SMB support, how do I get that04:40
fr500_phate_, synaptic04:40
=== Pyralis [~Cadilles@c-24-17-248-142.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
tsumefr500: I've a centrino notebook coming in.. and the bsd support isn't exactly there if you know what I mean04:41
johnnybezakis there a cli rename command or do i have to cp oldname newname04:41
_phate_fr500: any specifics?04:41
tsumefr500: bsd is missing the automatic power throttling for the centrino arch.04:41
diegojohnnybezak: you use move (mv)04:41
fr500_phate_, have u read the unofficial ubuntu guide?04:41
johnnybezakdiego: mv oldname newname?04:41
_phate_johnnybezak: I use mv oldname newname04:41
diegojohnnybezak: yeah04:41
fr500tsume, centrinos are cool04:41
=== hvelarde [~hvelarde@dsl-200-78-60-60.prod-infinitum.com.mx] has joined #ubuntu
johnnybezakdiego: sweet04:41
_phate_fr500: no04:42
fr500very fast04:42
GammaRayjohnnybezak: I wrote one... wanna try it?04:42
fr500and quiet04:42
Potato-Greenlol sorry for being such a noob, but im trying to get GCC so i can install gdesklets04:42
Potato-Greencan anyone please help?04:42
fr500write /topic and read04:42
fr500_phate_, it's pretty straightforward04:42
WWPotato-Green: sudo apt-get install build-essential04:42
=== togs [togs@203.91.86.120.rev.eftel.com] has joined #ubuntu
Potato-GreenWW...?04:42
=== YankDownUnder [~stephen@d220-237-210-77.dsl.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
eyequeuePotato-Green:  sudo apt-get install build-essential04:42
WWPotato-Green: In a terminal, enter that command.04:43
Potato-Greenk04:43
hyphenhey diego, thanks for that ubuntuguide link04:43
Bronchowould my box complelty lock up becuase I ahve an ATI card?04:43
_phate_what is Kubuntu?04:43
Potato-Greenthanks WW04:43
eyequeuephate kde04:43
fr500_phate_, kde ubuntu04:43
WWPotato-Green: no problem04:43
Potato-Greeni feel like such a n00b here lol, been on windows forever04:43
diegohyphen: no problem04:43
fr500tsume, you could try several04:44
_phate_fr500: thats sick...04:44
fr500fc3 was nice for me, until i found this04:44
fr500_phate_, sick as cool or as bad04:44
_phate_fr500: bad, ubuntu is the only distro I know of that is specific to Gnome, which I think is better then KDE04:44
=== mroth [~mroth@mroth.user] has left #ubuntu ["Do]
tsumegnome needs a bloat clean up04:45
fr500_phate_, both have thier pros, i like gnome better04:45
tsumeits a good desktop dont get me wrong. but places in it are.. awekward04:45
fr500but kde has transparcency and some other cool features04:45
GammaRaytsume: define bloat04:45
fr500tsume, hve u tried other distros?04:45
tsumeGammaRay: slowdowns, and glitches04:45
hvelardesorry guys... i am new on Linux... i was trying to update my warty installation to hoary and now the x-windows system is not working... when i boot the machine it stays at command line... any idea?04:46
eyequeuetsume:  happening04:46
togsI'm getting boot errors after installing on one box and transferrig the drive to the intended box, using "custom-expert" option. Is there a way to do that properly?04:46
WWI still don't "get" transparency.  Why make the text harder to read?04:46
Potato-GreenWW: pm04:46
tsumefr500: in the past yes. It was 3 years ago when I just started using BSD only because I had time(tm) to play04:46
_phate_hvelarde: try running 'init 5'04:46
fr500oh04:46
diegohvelarde: talk to avirox lol04:46
tsumefr500: times have changed I realise, so I must rediscover _again_04:46
tsumeI remember mandrake being good.. and redhat.. etc.. but it seems many politics have happened since I last peeked in the linux world04:47
fr500tsume, of couse04:47
fr500i only used redhat too04:47
hvelardehow can i do that, diego?04:47
tsumemoney isn't an issue for me. I can buy linux distros..04:47
GammaRaytsume: check this out http://codeblogs.ximian.com/blogs/benm/archives/000457.html04:47
=== togs is away "bbl" Log: on Pager: off
=== togs is now known as togs|awy
eyequeuetsume:  http://codeblogs.ximian.com/blogs/benm/archives/000457.html04:48
tsumeeyequeue: oh wow.04:48
fr500tsume, you can try the free flavors an donate too poor people04:48
tsumeeyequeue: this is good news04:48
diegotsume: install ubuntu. it'll take half an hour, look around, decide for yourself. i find it to be a very good and dependable system, with awesome default packages installed (gnome, openoffice, firefox, gaim, etc)04:48
fr500:p04:48
Potato-Greenwhile installing gDesklets i get this error: XML::Parser... configure: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool, any way to fix this?04:48
=== shua [~shua@cpe-66-66-64-209.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
tsumediego: I need my centrino laptop first04:48
tsumeI'm making a list yes04:48
_phate_hvelarde: did you try 'startx'04:48
eyequeuetsume:  all because you asked ;)04:48
tsumewhat I need to figure out is a list first04:48
GammaRaytsume: you click on his one .. I'm shocked :-P04:49
tsumethen I need to install each by each04:49
=== Dull404 [~johan@c213-89-222-156.cm-upc.chello.se] has joined #ubuntu
tsumethe laptop is the main priority04:49
=== shua [~shua@cpe-66-66-64-209.rochester.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
tsumeI'm hoping to do much traveling04:49
Dull404is Hoary safe to run, or is should I install warty? for desktop use04:49
diegoDull404: are you scared when something doesn't work?04:50
hyphenwhat's xine-ui?04:50
=== Fran25 [~ircap751@200.68.80.161] has joined #ubuntu
=== R0bNyc [~jkd@pool-162-84-156-141.ny5030.east.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
hyphengeneral media player?04:50
diegohyphen: it's like mplayer04:50
thoreauputicPotato-Green: you are doing this the hard way - use the package manager. gdesklets is available in the repositories04:50
hyphenah04:50
diegomore for movies04:50
Potato-Greenthoreauputic: package manager?04:50
Dull404diego: not really, as long as its secure04:50
diegothoreauputic: don't you love people that don't know about apt? lol04:50
Potato-Greensorry im very new04:50
Fran25Hi, I need help!! I don't know how to install my router!04:50
hvelarde_phate_: init 5 doesn't works04:50
hyphenapt is the greatest creation since sliced bread04:51
diegoDull404: worried about security? interesting04:51
hyphenwow04:51
fr500hyphen, it's like a home theatre04:51
hyphenah04:51
hvelardestartx brought something to the screen, but now the computer is not responding04:51
thoreauputicPotato-Green: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/04:51
=== TongMaster [~TongMaste@adsl-2-82.lo1.lns1.server-access.com] has joined #ubuntu
thoreauputicPotato-Green: and read http://ubuntuguide.org04:51
diegoDull404: well i'm running hoary right now...have to put up with minor breakage every now and then but the worst thing by far was a breakage of nvidia kernel modules a couple months ago...it was fixed in a day04:52
Fran25Help! Somebody!!04:52
diegoFran25: you don't know how to install your router? so you come to a ubuntu channel?04:52
timsa whole day?04:52
Dull404diego: hmm... i've only used linux for 1month... maybe its a bad idea anyways04:52
=== tizen [alain@ADent8215.ResNet.Dal.Ca] has joined #ubuntu
tsumeriddle me this, can I download a type of source for packages from the ubuntu server for building?04:52
tsumekinda like.. src.rpm?04:53
diegoDull404: heh, probably. every now and then you need to tweak some option in some config file to get something to work right04:53
thoreauputicPotato-Green: for the package manager: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SynapticHowto04:53
timsdull: I've been using hoary/ubuntu/linux for 5 days04:53
tsumealso... is there a configuration tool for GNOME, like Yast in SuSE?04:53
diegotsume: to configure what, for example?04:54
=== brainv [~brainv@203.115.154.102] has joined #ubuntu
diegotsume: you can apt-get source packages, yes04:54
tsumeand.. what tools allow me to check for updates? What type are they? and will they allow me to see available updates when I'm using the computer?04:54
tsumehmm04:54
Dull404diego: im using arch linux right now... so im used to tweaking config files04:54
brainvhi, i'm having problem install gtk+2.0 in ubuntu, any help is highly appreciated04:54
tsumediego: is there a up2date type program?04:54
timstsume: ubuntu update manager?04:55
=== hvelarde [~hvelarde@dsl-200-78-60-60.prod-infinitum.com.mx] has left #ubuntu []
diegotsume: synaptic package manager is a gui tool that can handle updates for you. otherwise `apt-get update; apt-get upgrade` heh04:55
tsumediego: from what I see. Its between SuSE and ubuntu in my list04:55
Dull404diego: is mplayer & firestarter out for hoary? if they are avilible for warty then i could go with it04:55
brainvis theres a way installing gtk+2.0 development?04:55
tsumediego: can it stay in background so I may see if the updates are good?04:55
diegotsume: i think there's an update automation tool but i haven't tried it04:55
tsumediego: like up2date. it turns red if theres an update04:56
=== Levander [~cponder@user-11208c5.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu
tsumediego: oh.. hmm ok. thats the program I want then.04:56
tsumehmmmm04:56
tsumehmm04:56
diegotsume: Synaptic is just a front-end for apt but the good thing is that it doesn't hide anything from you, you can see the buffer apt-get is working in if you want04:56
thoreauputicbrainv: type apt-cache search gtk + | grep dev04:56
tsumeDoesn't UDontKnow hang around here?04:56
haydenwhat packages do i need to run xine?04:56
=== FAST [~gyro_@ip68-4-125-152.oc.oc.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu
LevanderSomething is screwing up my nameserver during boot.  Something overwrites my /etc/resolv.conf file to remove my local name server, and only use my ISP's.  Any idea what is overwriting this?04:56
diegotsume: udk as in the freenode guy?04:57
tsumediego: affirmative04:57
tsumediego:  I need his cryptofs04:57
=== poo_fairy [~gyro_@ip68-4-125-152.oc.oc.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu
thoreauputicbrainv: sorry that gisves a regexp error04:57
fr500regarding my ubuntu media player wifi access point / router, what would be the best choice for a user, using kernel routing directly or firestarter?04:57
diegotsume: i don't believe i've ever seen him talk in this channel, try /msg-ing udk04:57
tsumehe made a userland crypto system.04:57
tsumehmm04:57
Dull404diego: u can update from warty to hoary right? just apt-get update ?? when they change the repos?04:57
tsumehes offline :)04:57
_phate_hvelarde: did you run it with sudo?04:58
thoreauputicbrainv: you need the -dev package, anyway04:58
diegoDull404: yes. to update from warty to hoary, you change your repo list (/etc/apt/sources.list) to the hoary repo's and then run apt-get upgrade or apt-get dist-upgrade. there's a howto on the wiki also04:58
=== tsume marks down ubuntu as a must try
Dull404diego: ok thanks :)04:59
diegotsume: i don't believe i ever answered your yast question. what does yast do?05:00
diegoi've only ever used suse for like 10 minutes05:00
tsumediego: configuration tool05:01
diegotsume: configures what?05:01
tsumediego: the whole system05:01
tsumefrom servers, to firewalls05:01
_phate_YAY! I just got FF 1.0.1 installed as my default browser!05:01
=== error_29 [~bru@24-90-94-112.nyc.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
thoreauputicbrainv: you might want to install x-window-system-dev as well, I would guess05:01
_phate_though I think I might have done some evil things to do it...05:01
tsumediego: almost forgot, xorg is default?05:02
diegotsume: oh interesting...ubuntu doesn't really have anything like that, it's a more decentralized approach. maybe because ubuntu doesn't ship with any open ports so you're not expected to be running server software or a firewall05:02
tsumediego: it configures time, users, etc too05:02
diegotsume: hoary (to be released in early april) runs xorg. warty is xfree by default05:02
Dull404can warty or hoary use Debian repos?05:02
tsumediego: what about devel release?05:02
diegotsume: there's a user config tool and a time config tool, just not in one place really05:02
Dull404i like xorg :)05:02
diegotsume: xorg == devel release05:03
tsumeokay :)05:03
=== kayali [~kayali@ALamentin-101-1-10-49.w81-248.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu
fr500what is the difference between one xserver and another?05:03
thoreauputicDull404: using debian repos is deprecated - and usually unnecessary anyway05:03
diegoDull404: it's not really recommended to use the debian repos but it will probably work. not getting any help from me on that though :P05:03
tsumeI can't use source build systems like bsd or gentoo anymore.. I don't have a million years to waste05:03
brainvwhats the difference bet warth and hoary05:03
thoreauputichoary is the development branch05:04
kayalitsume: exactly my thoughts right now :)05:04
=== zenrox [~zenrox@wbar7.sea-4-12-028-223.dsl-verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu
johnnybezakwhen i used gentoo i can't remember building source being a pain at all05:04
diegotsume: gentoo is what i come from for that exact reason. i found that though i'm lacking USE flags, apt is a good (and FAST) replacement05:04
johnnybezakonce id built kde and oo.o05:04
thoreauputicwill be released as the new "stable" in april05:04
=== WW [~wweckesse@cpe-24-59-199-217.twcny.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu []
Levanderfr500, for all I know the diff between x.org and xfree is that xfree did something with their licensing open source ppl didn't like, so x.org was created using the old X license05:04
=== Quazion [~quazion@bsm-c-5628.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu
Levanderfr500, something like that, there was a story on arstechnica about it05:04
Dull404thoreauputic: but debian has 16.000 packages ;) i figured ubuntu packages are re-compiled debians ......05:04
_phate_can I get the optimized i686 kernel by just running 'sudo apt-get install linux-i686'?05:04
johnnybezakfr500: the licensing was the straw that broke the camels back05:04
fr500ok05:04
johnnybezakfr500: development had been slow, and there were personality conflicts with the dev's on xfree8605:05
HrdwrBoBDull404: it's not quite that sumple05:05
thoreauputicDull404: you *can* use debian repos - but things might break in unexprected ways05:05
HrdwrBoBsimple05:05
Dull404thoreauputic: im not sure wich to get, debian or ubuntu... both seems good.......05:05
_phate_X.org was created before the license snafu of Xfree8605:05
diegoDull404: the universe repository provides almost all of those packages. right now i have hoary repos + merillat and i have 16375 packages available05:05
Levander_phate_, pretty much that's what I did.  I read a few howto's though, upgrading kernel scares me05:05
diegoDull404: debian releases are very questionable...05:06
jeff_how do i fix broken packages05:06
thoreauputicDull404: both *are* good ;)05:06
johnnybezakfr500: now x.org is getting sweet things like the transparency and drop shadows :)05:06
Levander_phate_, basically, what was that snafu, i forget05:06
=== BROKEN_LADDER [~BROKEN@h-68-164-187-45.snfccasy.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #UBUNTU
kayaliwhat is a good GUI cd burning program for gnome?05:06
zenroxgraveman05:06
thoreauputicDull404: ubuntu is probably a bit "easier"05:06
Dull404HrdwrBoB: i thiught since ubuntu is based on debian..... they should have the same "linux-base" .....05:06
fr500what do we have by default05:06
_phate_Levander: something about binary distros and source05:06
johnnybezakkayali: don't know but k3b is a good qt program05:06
HrdwrBoBDull404: yes but the dependancies etc are different05:06
fr500zenrox, i'm doing heavy tests on gnomebaker05:06
Levanderkayali, i heard graveyard was good, never used myself05:06
Dull404thoreauputic: oki05:06
fr500for data cds its great05:06
HrdwrBoBDull404: it should work for the most part, but no-one will help you05:07
zenroxfr500,  i have that installed as well graveman does work with my cd-rw drive05:07
fr500johnnybezak, what do we have in warty?05:07
Levanderdull404, ubuntu does a lot of qa of the debian unstable branch, ubuntu basically tries to make debian unstable stable enough so that people won't have so many problems with it05:07
Dull404HrdwrBoB: ah ok. no im not going to use debian repos, i just wanted to know the difference :)05:07
zenroxfr500, bolh love it05:07
kayaliI think I'm gonna quit gentoo for ubuntu on my ibook ......... hoary seems a good desktop os, only the lack of java scares me. also, is it possible to install apache + php on ubuntu (using ubuntu packages I mean)05:08
=== ells [~steve@69-171-78-149.clspco.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu
HrdwrBoBDull404: ah :)05:08
diegoDull404: i'd say the main difference with ubuntu and debian right now is ubuntu's bi-annual releases05:08
Dull404Levander: i've heard Ubuntu uses most packages from Sid05:08
thoreauputickayali: yes05:08
johnnybezakfr500: in warty xfree, hoary x.org05:08
=== NobleArc [~Freya@h24-207-83-49.cst.dccnet.com] has joined #ubuntu
fr500ok05:08
diegobut i've never used debian itself (though i've used ubuntu and knoppix)05:08
Levanderkayali, i did w apache2 and php4 on ubuntu - hoary should include php5 package05:08
johnnybezak(by default)05:08
ellsanyone know how to combine vob fiels to make a playable dvd for my home player05:08
zenroxkayali,  read www.ubuntuguide.org for installing java apache etc....05:08
Dull404diego: true, last stable release of debian was in 2002 (!) :S05:08
thoreauputickayali: for instructions on java see ubuntuguide.org05:08
diegoDull404: isn't that almost as bad as xp? haha05:09
Levanderdull404, didn't know that, thought it was mainly unstable aka sarge05:09
kayalithoreauputic: ok, I hope they have a 'java on ppc' guide too ;)05:09
Dull404diego: hehe, yeah but its because sarge is too stable... it should be out long time ago ;)05:09
thoreauputickayali: ah, that I don't know...05:09
fr500kayali, should be pretty similar i guess05:09
zenroxkayali,  you can find that stuff on www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki05:10
=== tizen [alain@ADent8215.ResNet.Dal.Ca] has joined #ubuntu
ellsanyone know how to combine vob files to make a playable dvd for my home player05:10
johnnybezakhey guys i want to rename a bunch of files without doing it individually, i need to remove some numbers at the end of the filename, anyone got any ideas (ex. image.jpg.1 to image1.jpg05:10
diegoDull404: what's the problem with it anyway?05:10
johnnybezak)05:10
Dull404Levander: Sarge is stable.. but not "officially" stable05:10
kayalidownloading hoary right now :)05:10
Dull404diego: with?05:10
=== GFXstyLER [~GFXstyLER@xdslf167.osnanet.de] has joined #ubuntu
GFXstyLERhi05:10
diegojohnnybezak: you'd have to do some regular expressions i think, hope you know how and good luck. /me runs away05:10
stazichhow to download Hoary?05:10
diegoDull404: releasing sarge?05:11
Levanderjohnnybezak, for i in `ls *.[1234] ` ; do mv $i `basename $i .[1234] ` ; done - that's basically it05:11
ellsanyone know how to combine vob files to make a playable dvd for my home player05:11
johnnybezakdiego: haha yeah i know I will i was hoping someone here could help me out05:11
diegostazich: go to the download link at ubuntulinux.rog05:11
diegostazich: org*05:11
Potato-Greendoes anyone here have gdesklets installed?05:11
Dull404stazich: look on distrowatch.com they have a link05:11
Levanderjohnny, that's bash syntax05:11
thoreauputicjohnnybezak: you could try asking in #bash05:11
=== OddAbe19 [~OddAbe19@pcp02542642pcs.lncstr01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
johnnybezakLevander: can you explain what the for i in does? i see it all the time in bash scripts05:11
zenroxstazich,  check out the www.ubuntuforums.org and search for hoary install05:11
GFXstyLERwhy is my system randomly slow after upgrading to hoary?05:11
Dull404diego: i dunno.... 1000 people who cant decide if its stable or not i'd guess05:12
=== hyphen [~hyphen@c-24-130-176-80.we.client2.attbi.com] has joined #ubuntu
ellsanyone know how to combine vob files to make a playable dvd for my home player05:12
johnnybezakGFXstyLER: type top when its slow to see whats using the cpu up05:12
Potato-Greenells05:12
zenroxPotato-Green,  what are you trying to run the gdesklets on05:12
Potato-Greenyou dont combine vob files05:12
ellsPotato-Green05:12
ellsyes05:12
Potato-Greenubuntu05:12
diegoGFXstyLER: cpu throttling?05:12
Potato-Greeni burn my own dvds, you dont combine them05:12
ellsPotato-Green, I want to copy a dvd05:12
GFXstyLERthe cpu is always at 1% thats why iam wondering05:12
Potato-Greenyeah05:12
=== IvyCQHome [~Sir@c906a0a6.virtua.com.br] has joined #ubuntu
ellsPotato-Green, school me then05:12
Potato-Greenive dont it on windows, and u just copy the iso and burn05:12
Levanderjohnny, try in #bash also, but for does a loop.  For each value in the list, for sets i to the value and runs the commands in the body of the loop.05:13
johnnybezakGFXstyLER: i wish my cpu was always at 1% too :)05:13
diegoGFXstyLER: add the cpu frequency monitor applet to you panel and watch it.05:13
=== _quinton [~matt@219.224-93-216-fuji-dsl.dhcp.surewest.net] has joined #ubuntu
ellsPotato-Green, okay, did that not working05:13
Potato-Greenzenrox im trying to run gdesklets on my laptop (ubuntu)05:13
johnnybezakLevander: thanks *gets bash scripting guide out* hehe05:13
GFXstyLERthanks for the tip diego05:13
Potato-Greenells05:13
ellsI ripped it using dvdrip and make an iso and burned it, no can do05:13
Potato-Green;p;05:13
ellsPotato-Green, yes05:13
Potato-Green*lol05:13
Potato-Greenyou did it wrong05:14
Levanderjohnny, it's to much to explain in a busy channel, go to directory.google.com, search in the directory for bash, find the "bash category" in the directory, then look for a tutorial subcategory.  for loops are pretty basic, should find many tutorials that cover it05:14
diegoGFXstyLER: recently mine started behaving badly, found it could be attributed to my cpu being throttled down to 300mhz every now and then heh05:14
ellsPotato-Green, yes, educate me my man05:14
Potato-Greenyour burning the video as a iso?05:14
Potato-Greenhave u converted to video_ts and audio_ts folder?05:14
ellswell, not sure if i should, have done it though05:14
Dull404ells: go dvdrhelp.com05:14
Potato-Greenyeah05:14
GFXstyLERdiego: maybe thats the problem, it just happened after installing cpydynd or cpufreqd, but i removed them both and its still slow sometimes05:15
Potato-Greentheyll have more answers there05:15
ellsDull404, thanks05:15
Dull404np05:15
=== invalid|mandrake [~invalid|m@adsl-157-60-152.mco.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu
Potato-Greenzenrox can u help?05:15
johnnybezakLevander: yeah its cool I'll just reread the for loops section of the bash scripting guide form tldp.org05:15
diegoGFXstyLER: oh..hmm...look intently at 'top' i guess heh05:15
Dull404diego: arite then... im going for ubuntu/warty ... :)05:15
Levanderjohhnybezak - get a shorter chat name! it's to much to type!! but, cool, tldp is any good? I'm looking for tutorials all the time.05:16
=== kayali [kayali@ALamentin-101-1-10-49.w81-248.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu
=== GFXstyLER is now known as gfxstyler
Dull404Levander: use "Tab" key ;)05:16
Dull404nick-auto-completetion05:16
LevanderDull404: ha! that works! thanks!05:16
diegoDull404: cool, cool05:16
Dull404<---- cant spell05:16
LevanderDull404: just auto-completed your name twice!05:17
Dull404diego: got sick and tired of this Arch Linux.... its i686 optimized, but what the ....05:17
=== andrewski [~andrewski@pool-70-16-157-102.phil.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu
Dull404Levander: lol05:17
Levanderjohnnybezak: found tldp, yeah i used to use that stuff all the time.  The HOWTO's are always to broad and in-depth for what i need.05:17
gfxstylerdiego: found the problem, its maybe Xorg05:17
diegoDull404: can't say i've tried it, i'm just a linux noob heh05:18
Levanderjohnnybezak: i like short tutorials that cover pretty much what i'm trying to do05:18
johnnybezakLevander: haha yeah the guides are pretty sweet05:18
Potato-Greenanyone here have gdesklets installed?05:18
Levanderjohnnybezak: maybe they got better though, haven't used them in years05:18
andrewskiPotato-Green: i have before...05:18
diegogfxstyler: been too long...are you the guy who was stuck at the command line?05:18
johnnybezakLevander: haha lucky you, i need big slow with lots of examples :)05:18
=== KingTana [~Tanner@64.178.250.136] has joined #ubuntu
Potato-Greenandrewski can i pm?05:18
Dull404diego: me too ;) even though i've been using puters since '94...05:18
andrewskiPotato-Green: if you must.05:18
gfxstylerdiego: no i was the guy with cpu throttling problems :)05:18
KingTanaWho uses a external hardware modem for linux?05:19
diegogfxstyler: oh that was like 3 seconds ago05:19
Levanderjohnnybezak: u get to a point where basic tutorials are annoying and can't do without intermediate tutorials05:19
=== diego goes to cry at his own stupidity in a corner
johnnybezakLevander: yeah i know what you mean05:19
Levanderjohnnybezak: how long u been playing w computer-geek stuff?05:19
diegogfxstyler: it was the uncapitalization the through me off i think05:19
Dull404*gone*05:19
johnnybezakLevander: when i type in that loop you gave me it says05:20
johnnybezakmv: `turtleneedscropping.jpg.4' and `turtleneedscropping.jpg.4' are the same file05:20
gfxstylerdiego: yes i thought that this way its easier for all to type05:20
=== Dull404 [~johan@c213-89-222-156.cm-upc.chello.se] has left #ubuntu []
johnnybezak(does that for .1 .2 and .3 too)05:20
Levanderjohnnybezak: i was giving u the idea, it's far from complete05:20
stazichi have a problem with playback of CDs on my iMac with the warty ubuntu, it has been mentioned on ubuntuforums.org and really noone came up with an answer as to why the CDROM will playback but give NO SOUND while all other media plays fine... i was wondering if any of you had a similar problem here, or maybe know of a way to fix... someone suggested to upgrade to hoary... is it worthwile?05:20
calcstazich: it might not have a physical audio cable05:21
johnnybezakLevander: ok I'll go see if I can work it out :) tahnks for your help05:21
ellsDull404, all it talks about is windows stuff05:21
stazichcalc- worked fine under OS9...05:21
Levanderjohnnybezak: , answer the chat I just sent u05:21
thoreauputicstazich: you ned to enable digital play05:21
diegostazich: it might HAVE a sound cable. lol05:22
thoreauputicstazich: the default cd player won't do it05:22
calcstazich: well of course it would, doesn't mean they are doing regular audio playback :)05:22
gfxstylerstazich: did you look at your audio settings for the cdrom volume?05:22
=== JordanAU [~Jordan@cable-24-181-119-185.abr.al.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu
stazichhows that done?? u mean digital playback in XMMS as opposed to ANALOGUE?? what about other cdplayer apps??05:22
calcstazich: aiui macos along with windows xp can rip to the audio device, iow you don't need an audio cable but it uses more cpu to do it05:22
johnnybezakLevander: i don't know how to ive just started using irssi05:22
thoreauputicthe iBook uses digital05:22
johnnybezaki'll launch xchat05:22
=== bzbb [~john@cpe-66-168-47-103.ma.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu
diegowell i no longer serve a purpose here, peace all05:22
stazichgfx ... how do i d that?05:22
JordanAUHello, I am cleaning off space on my hard drive to install ubuntu for the first time05:22
gfxstylerdiego: peace05:23
Levanderjohnnybezak: ha, u to much, i just started an empty channel called notta, join that channel05:23
=== johnnybezak_ [~johnnybez@203-173-46-207.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu
thoreauputicstazich: xmms or beep-media-player05:23
=== diego [~diego@user-0cetu7o.cable.mindspring.com] has left #ubuntu []
stazichil try now05:23
calcmost cd player apps just tell the cd player to play the audio and assume the hardware has been designed properly for the audio to be heard by default05:23
thoreauputicstazich: configure the audio cd plugin05:23
kayaliis there a web interface where I can see the packages available in the repositories? (like packages.debian.org)05:23
JordanAUi have been spending some time reading up on linux and i have a partitioning question05:23
stazichso does it mean imacs do not have direct cable from cd player to sndcard?05:23
stazichive never taken 1 apart ;-)05:23
calcstazich: yes most likely it has no cable05:23
=== Levander [~cponder@user-11208c5.dsl.mindspring.com] has left #ubuntu []
JordanAUshould i partition anything more than 1 partition and a swap or should i sererate my root etc05:24
gfxstylerstazich: if you open the volume control you can set the volume of "CD", i dont know if thats what you are looking for but maybe it helps05:24
thoreauputicstazich: quite likely05:24
JordanAUsererate/seperate05:24
=== kayali [kayali@ALamentin-101-1-10-49.w81-248.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
bzbbwhat do I need to watch a dvd?05:25
=== kayali [kayali@ALamentin-101-1-10-49.w81-248.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu
crimsunbzbb: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats05:25
JordanAUwhat is a recommended partitioning scheme for ubuntu?05:25
crimsunJordanAU: the default is fine unless you wish to exercise more control and/or have specific requirements05:26
=== azriel0184 [~azriel018@dialup-188.51.194.203.acc02-dryb-mel.comindico.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
JordanAUokay since this is my first time to seriously be using linux i will go default and adjust later if i really need to05:26
gfxstyleri have 100mb /boot, 512mb swap and 79gb /05:26
stazichhehe - digital audio playback works ;-)) thx guys... what about cable? i mean can i put it in ther somehow? i dont wanna run cd through digital playback if i can do it directly thru analogue taking less resources up05:27
crimsun100 MB is _huge_ for /boot05:27
JordanAUgfxstyler: how much ram do youy have?05:27
=== acidmaxd [~acidmax@213.137.51.248] has joined #ubuntu
gfxstyler51205:27
=== clopsy [~chatzilla@pcp0010060920pcs.tharpe01.fl.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
_phate_gfxstyler: /boot should be around 32MB05:27
JordanAUi have heard something about doubling what you actually have i have 512 should i do a gig or 51205:27
gfxstyleri wasnt sure if 30mb for boot was enough, so i took 10005:27
=== hayden [~hayden@203-219-130-10-qld.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
crimsungfxstyler: 30 MB is more than enough05:28
calcmy boot is 20M and i have 3 kernels in it05:28
_phate_JordanAU: if you have the space go with a gig05:28
calcer my boot is taking 20M i meant to say05:28
=== gfxstyler is stupid
calci just have it on my / partition05:28
JordanAUokay i will have some 80 gig so i guess i will go for it05:28
haydeni have a cd-rw/dvd-rom drive, how can i set symbolic link /dev/dvd pointing to my cdrom drive?05:28
crimsunhayden: it should already exist when you boot05:28
crimsunhayden: rather, _after_ you finish booting05:28
_phate_gfxstyler: not really I made a similar mistake when I first started with linux05:28
JordanAUi am leaving windows on for halflife 2 any advice there?05:28
haydenhmm05:28
clopsyam trying to get XP to find shares on Ubuntu pc, can read everything except a FAT32 share--help?05:29
_phate_JordanAU: Yes, get an Xbox and play Halo 205:29
haydeni just started gxine, and was going thru the wizard that appeared05:29
crimsunJordanAU: you could also use wine or cedega to play it in Linux if you have an Nvidia or an ATI graphics card05:29
JordanAU_phate_: ....05:29
JDahlhayden, with udev you cannot manually populate /dev (I beleive)05:29
=== togs|awy is back 27s]
=== togs|awy is now known as togs
_phate_JordanAU: Or get Transgaming Cedega05:29
haydenhmm ok05:29
JordanAUyeah i figure if i payed 100 bucks for windows already i should't be paying 5 bucks a month for not 100% supported steam05:30
_phate_JordanAU: its a DirectX Wine thingee05:30
togsI'm getting boot errors after installing on one box and transferrig the drive to the intended box, using "custom-expert" option. Is there a way to do that properly?05:30
JordanAUyeah it costs money too05:30
JordanAULast question, should it pick up my wifi pretty easily?? the live CD didn't05:31
_phate_JordanAU: whats your wireless card05:31
gfxstylerare xfce 4.0 - xfce 4.2 pretty much the same or are there serious updates/changes? hoary only has xfce 4.005:31
crimsungfxstyler: 4.2 has some rather invasive updates05:32
JordanAU_phate_: I have a linksys wireless g05:32
JordanAUi will get you the model number if you need it05:32
JordanAUit is PCI05:32
andrewskigfxstyler: big changes.05:32
andrewskigfxstyler: os-works.com :)05:32
gfxstylerok then i will try to get xfce 4.2 :) thanks05:33
andrewskigfxstyler: that site has a repository for the latest packages.  maintained by one of the devs. 8)05:33
stazichhey guys, how can i mount a netwrk folder smb://mars/My%20Music to my linux mount folder??05:34
bur[n] ercrimsun: invasive?05:34
_phate_I dunno what the linksys uses... hum agere?05:34
bur[n] erstazich: mount -t smbfs05:34
bur[n] erstazich: or use the 'connect to server' thing05:34
JordanAUUpdate: I am burning ubuntu, I am presently using gaim, hopefully in about an hour i will be talking to y'all in XCHAT05:35
crimsunbur[n] er: as in lots of changes that require merging/tweaking to work with Ubuntu05:35
JordanAUon ubuntu05:35
andrewskiyay.05:35
bur[n] ercrimsun: but lots of 'great' changes too :)05:36
stazichyeah, mount -t smbfs doesnt do anything... do i have top add more?05:36
crimsunbur[n] er: quite true05:36
bur[n] erstazich: yes05:36
=== JordanAU [~Jordan@cable-24-181-119-185.abr.al.charter.com] has left #ubuntu []
stazichwhich connect tp server thing?05:36
=== kayali [kayali@ALamentin-101-1-10-49.w81-248.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
stazichlike?05:36
bur[n] erstazich: man mount05:36
bur[n] eror smbmount (and look at what it tells you to do)05:37
bur[n] erthe connect to server thing is in the main menu05:37
clopsymy problem is similar to stazich's--my XP box can see the shared "home" dir--but can't see "windrive" : which is an older FAT32 harddrive in the Ubuntu box05:38
hyphencan someone briefly explain what nautilus is?05:38
thoreauputicstazich: actually he means the "File" menu of nautilus05:38
thoreauputichyphen: file manager05:39
Agrajagit's a graphical file manager for nautilus05:39
Agrajager05:39
Agrajaggnome05:39
hyphenoh05:39
thoreauputichyphen: sort of like windows explorer *shudder*05:39
=== raggedgentleman [~raggedgen@adsl-68-252-233-235.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu
hyphenso then running nautilus burn:/// is running burn from nautilus?05:39
thoreauputichyphen: gives you a place to drag and drop stuff to burn05:40
raggedgentlemanhow do you convert a iso to a bin?05:40
hyphenah05:40
raggedgentlemani only see bin to iso05:40
thoreauputichyphen: then you hit the burn icon05:40
raggedgentlemanevery where bin to iso05:40
hyphenahh05:40
thoreauputicraggedgentleman: why do you need to convert to bin?05:41
=== quazion_ [~quazion@bsm-c-5628.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu
=== mikew_ [~mike@203-59-111-160.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu
=== pepsi [~pepsi@72-254-7-123.client.stsn.net] has joined #ubuntu
raggedgentlemanto play a game with epsxe05:44
gfxstylerif i install the composite manager, is it always enabled or can i deactivate it? because i have an ati gfx card05:44
andrewskigfxstyler: you can disable it.05:44
gfxstylerandrewski: thanks05:45
andrewskigfxstyler: once you get it up and running, you have only to comment out the lines in your xorg.conf05:45
raggedgentlemanthoreauputic, i got the iso but the client wont use the iso it only wants a bin05:45
gfxstylerw00t? xfce installation takes a few hours?05:46
=== ArtVandalae [SomeGuy@ppp158-26.lns1.mel3.internode.on.net] has joined #Ubuntu
=== jba [~jba@c211-30-145-155.blktn3.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
jbamdz, are you in dude?05:47
ArtVandalaeHello, I'm trying to help a mate with Ubunutu. He's trying to play an mpg file, but he keeps getting an error, does he need to apt-get a codec pack to play mpgs?05:47
jbamdz, are you the maintainer of mythtv packages?05:47
mdzjba: yes05:47
jbaI can't seem to find out what the password of the mythtv user, that the deb created is?05:47
mdzArtVandalae: gstreamer0.8-mad05:47
ArtVandalaeThanks05:47
mdzjba: there is none; it's locked05:48
gfxstylerArtVandaele: totem-xine05:48
jbamdz, how do i su to it to run the setup apps ?05:48
=== revildab|gone is now known as revildab
mdzsudo -u mythtv mythtv-setup05:48
jbaokay thanks dude05:48
=== chimp [~wind@c-24-17-43-157.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
jbahuh?05:49
jbaXlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server05:49
jbaXlib: No protocol specifie05:49
jbamdz, any tips ?05:51
=== farruinn [~nathan@cpe-69-201-9-239.twcny.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
crimsunjba: gksudo -u mythtv mythtv-setup05:53
pepsiwhat kind of graphics card should i get if i want it to work nicely in linux?05:53
Agrajagnvidia05:53
Agrajaganything by nvidia05:53
pepsiati stuff doesnt work?05:53
pepsior its just picky05:54
jbacrimsun, still no go05:54
tsumehow does ubuntu install files?05:54
tsumeI mean by the hier05:54
tsumeif it installs a package, where does the package go?05:54
crimsuntsume: come again?05:54
tsume /usr, /usr/local?05:55
farruinnpepsi: there was a thread on ubuntu-users recently about that05:55
=== stub [~stub@dsl-246.248.240.220.dsl.comindico.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
thoreauputictsume: usually /usr05:55
crimsuntsume: /usr/local is reserved for system-specific things. Packages should never touch /usr/local05:55
=== quazion__ [~quazion@bsm-c-5628.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu
tsumecan software be set as a prefix to go in /usr/local?05:55
=== toffy [~bjorn@80.203.83.189] has joined #ubuntu
tsume*packages05:55
farruinnusually /usr/local/ is a sort of "personal" filesystem05:56
crimsuntsume: again, distro-provided packages should not touch /usr/local05:56
farruinnbut all packages should install elsewhere05:56
tsumecrimsun: the question is though, can they be installed elsewhere?05:57
thoreauputictsume: stuff you build yourself (for instance) can be put in /usr/local05:57
crimsuntsume: certainly, though you should not distribute such packages05:57
farruinnis this in the debian reference manual?05:58
tsumesoo..05:59
crimsunfarruinn: absolutely: see section 9.1.205:59
tsumeis the ubuntu install console based?05:59
calcall dist software belongs in /usr, all user installed software belongs in /usr/local, all third party crap belongs in /opt06:00
=== kern [~Kern00@pcp01327764pcs.chrstn01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
raggedgentlemancan i convert a .img to a .bin?06:00
calcthough the difference between user installed and 3rd party is a grey area06:00
kernHey, do I need gpm to use my PS/2 and serial mice at the sametime?06:00
crimsunkern: no06:00
kernI'm not sure if I even have it configured right06:00
tsumeubuntu doesn't have a graphical installer does it?06:00
kernI've got the serial mouse in my XF86Config-4 file, and I have the module loaded.06:01
haydenhas anyone installed engage dock ?\06:01
crimsuntsume: no06:01
raggedgentlemanthoreauputic, what about .img to .bin?06:01
thoreauputicraggedgentleman: I don't know, sorry06:01
kernAnybody know how to get a serial mouse to work?06:02
haydencrimsun, do u know any mac like docks i can install?06:02
=== mumak [~jml@ppp111-55.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu
crimsunhayden: idesk?06:02
crimsunhayden: not sure what you mean by "docks"06:03
=== quazion_ [~quazion@bsm-c-5628.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu
kerncrimsun: Do you know how to get serial mice to work?06:03
crimsunkern: is it plugged in?06:03
haydenhttp://edevelop.org/errand/packages/themes/gant/apps/engage/preview.png06:03
kernI even loaded Dynebolic to detect my serial mouse to take the stuff from it's XF86Config06:03
kerncrimsun: Yeah.06:03
tsumecrimsun: is the partitioning application easy? ncurses?06:04
tsumecrimsun: I can specify several slices, yes?06:04
kernDynebolic detects my serial mouse at boot so I loaded that and copied the data from the XF86Config into Ubuntu, no luck there.06:04
thoreauputictsume: you can choose manual partitioning06:04
crimsuntsume: there's not really an equivalent of bsd slices, but yes, you can manually partition06:04
tsumehmm06:04
tsumecrimsun: erm oops. Sorry, I keep using bsd based words :)06:05
tsumeIts been 3 years since I used linux06:05
=== calc wants slices on linux
=== mrproper [~kbreit@c-24-14-43-153.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
mrproperAre there Ubuntu deb's for Mono 1.1.latest?06:08
crimsunmrproper: no06:08
mrproperk06:08
=== R0bNyc [~jkd@pool-162-84-156-141.ny5030.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== regeya [~shane@sdn-ap-008ilchicP0325.dialsprint.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== phosphorgreen [~ajross@62.3.116.107] has joined #ubuntu
=== Adyeths [qc2ngy@dialup-4.239.132.126.Dial1.Philadelphia1.Level3.net] has joined #ubuntu
R0bNycI'm trying to get kernel 2.6.11 -k7 since I have a athlon xp-m laptop, but I dont know what to get the source, the headers, the image etc?06:18
=== mrproper [~kbreit@c-24-14-43-153.client.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
=== mikew_ [~mike@203-59-111-160.dyn.iinet.net.au] has left #ubuntu []
R0bNyctheres linux-tree, linux-source, linux-image, and linux-headres06:19
zenroxlinux-image-k706:19
zenroxsomething like that06:19
azriel0184R0bNyc, linux-images06:19
azriel0184linux-image-k7 for an amd06:20
haydendoes anyone know how to install a mac-like dock for ubuntu?06:20
zenroxand souce and headers and tree all same k7 revision06:20
=== each-other[sunda [~ad@as-192-34.tm.net.my] has joined #ubuntu
each-other[sundaJoin KampungChat :Type --> /Server Irc.KampungChat.Org www.KampungChat.Org06:20
=== each-other[sunda [~ad@as-192-34.tm.net.my] has left #ubuntu []
R0bNycazriel0184, thanks06:20
zenroxdamn spammer06:20
R0bNyci dont need to compile for it to work with all my hardware like my current 2.6.10 kernel?06:20
R0bNycI'm using Hoary ARray 6 btw06:21
=== sahin_h [~sahin@79.146-183-adsl-pool.axelero.hu] has joined #ubuntu
zenroxR0bNyc,  nope06:21
azriel0184if you needed to recompile it for 2.6.10 then maybe06:21
R0bNyczenrox, thanks Ill try again06:21
=== Kern [~Kern00@pcp01327764pcs.chrstn01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
R0bNycno i didnt recompile06:21
KernAnybody know how to get a serial mouse to work?06:22
KernI've tried everything.06:22
KernThat I can think of.06:22
=== EricNeon [~ericneon@203.148.3.94] has joined #ubuntu
thoreauputicR0bNyc: the linux-image package should just install (and automatically add itself to the grub bootloader)06:22
zenroxKern, try a sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 and go tharu that wizared and point it to the location of the serial mouse06:22
Kernzenrox: I just tried that again, no luck.06:23
thoreauputicKern: I killed my serial mouse with a sharp screwdriver and installed a ps206:23
R0bNycthoreauputic, i tried itbefore and it did install and added itself automatically but my mouse or touchpad didnt work and my keyboard either so i couldnt do nothing but shut it off manually and boot into 2.6.10 - i386 (Default)06:23
KernI want to beable to use my PS/2 mouse and serial mouse at the sametime.06:23
thoreauputicR0bNyc: 2.6.11 is kind of on the bleeding edge, you know...06:24
zenroxkern ps2 usb maby but not serial and ps206:24
R0bNycyea I know and so is hoary06:24
=== hyphen [~hyphen@c-24-130-176-80.we.client2.attbi.com] has joined #ubuntu
Kernzenrox: I've used a PS/2 mouse and serial mouse in Dynebolic, which is based on Debian.06:24
KernSo I know it works.06:24
=== Benoni [~liblit@ppp-68-249-85-169.dsl.mdsnwi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu
zenroxR0bNyc,  id stick with the 2.6.10 kernel  till the 2.6.11 is in better shape06:25
thoreauputicKern: I find if I plug in a usb mouse and a ps2 at the same time, both work06:25
hyphenanyone here installed wine before?06:25
=== wacko_- [~wacko_-@cpe-70-112-219-55.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
R0bNyczenrox, no prob thanks06:25
Kernthoreauputic: Ok, but I can't use a USB mouse.06:25
=== Benoni [~liblit@ppp-68-249-85-169.dsl.mdsnwi.ameritech.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
zenroxKern,  d/l the souce to that Dynebolic progam and compile it your self06:25
KernDynebolic is a Linux distribution.06:26
zenroxhyphen,  sudo apt-get install wine06:26
KernI want to beable to do the same on Ubuntu.06:26
zenroxKern,  do you still have an exampole of how that worked in the xfree86 server06:26
KernYeah.06:26
fscok, who's having problem with Totem being so slow?06:27
KernI even have the module loaded at boot.06:27
zenroxlook at the differences06:27
hyphenyeah, i already did that.  and i ./install.sh as well.  just curious as to how i'd go about running win files06:27
fsctakes forever to startup on a fast machine06:27
zenroxKern,  make the aproate changes06:27
Kernzenrox: I already have. It's in my Ubuntu XF86Config-406:27
KernI'd say everything should be working, but it's not.06:27
zenroxonce done do a alt+ctrl+backspace to restart x06:27
R0bNycWhat is that stuff called that notifies you of software updates for hoary ?06:27
Kernzenrox: I've done that several times already.06:28
zenroxkern a good reboot06:28
zenrox??06:28
Xirdnehhyphen, you may try this page is preatty easy to follow http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb06:28
Kernzenrox: Yeah.06:28
zenroxkern ok06:28
hyphenthanks06:28
Xirdnehhyphen, np06:28
KernIt's killing me man.06:28
zenroxKern,  i know06:28
KernHaha.06:28
hyphener actually, i've read through that page already :P  just having a bit of trouble understanding some stuff in the documentation section06:29
zenroxKern,  i have 1 prob id like resaulved and it wont be06:29
zenroxand its killing me06:29
KernWhat is it zenrox?06:29
zenroxbut ill get it to work some day06:29
zenroxKern, trust me its hard06:29
zenroxvery hard06:29
=== VR^ [VR@154-111.200-68.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== ells [~steve@69-171-78-149.clspco.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu
zenroxno one has bine able to fix it 3 chat rooms on this network06:30
zenroxand others as well06:30
KernYou can't just bring it up and not give me details zenrox!06:31
zenroxand its not a ubuntu problam any way06:31
zenroxdual monters on 2 difernt nvidia cards06:31
KernWow, I'd never even try something like that.06:31
zenroxfx5200 and a tnt2 (witch is out dated buy the 6629 nvidia driver)06:32
ellsanyone familiar with copying home dvds06:32
Adyethsis there a services configure program in ubuntu?06:32
Adyethslike on the default cd install06:32
ellsI ripped a dvd and it produced vob files06:32
andrewskiAdyeths: vim /etc/conf.d/*06:32
andrewskiAdyeths: or, for packages, dpkg-reconfigure package06:32
ellshow can I make those so i can watch them as a regular cd06:32
zenroxAdyeths,  not on the cd but in the univeres that makes it a simi gui-esh06:33
Adyethsok06:33
ellsanyone familiar with copying home dvds06:33
zenroxdont rember the name tho06:33
raggedgentlemancan i convert a .img to a .bin?06:33
Adyethsthats what I was wanting, a gui sort of configure util to turn the services on and off. (similar to the tools included in other distros like mandrake for instance)06:33
raggedgentlemanhow do you convert a iso to a bin?06:34
zenroxiso2bin06:34
zenrox??06:34
raggedgentlemani only see bin to iso06:34
zenroxraggedgentleman,  ya06:34
raggedgentlemanbut i want the opposite06:34
zenroxthats the only way why conver from iso to bin06:34
Adyethsthanks!06:34
zenroxiso is easer to burn06:34
raggedgentlemanto play games06:34
=== Adyeths [qc2ngy@dialup-4.239.132.126.Dial1.Philadelphia1.Level3.net] has left #ubuntu ["http://www.cleansoftware.org/"]
zenroxand still can be mounted in all os's06:35
raggedgentlemanepsxe wants .bin files06:35
zenroxwhy does it want bin06:35
raggedgentlemanmmmmm yeah maybe ill just mount it and tell it to play off the cd!06:35
zenroxthats easer06:35
raggedgentlemanyeah! yay! how do you mount an iso?06:35
zenroxraggedgentleman,  read www.ubuntuguide.org06:36
raggedgentlemanoh shit, =o)06:36
zenroxtons of other info too06:36
raggedgentlemanhehe and i tell ppl to go there =o) i feel dumb06:36
raggedgentlemanthanks bud06:36
zenroxlol06:36
=== cavediver [~jonas@62.101.48.80] has joined #ubuntu
=== scorpix_ [~scorpix@as4-60.qualitynet.net] has joined #ubuntu
raggedgentlemanso the mounted iso will have a file system?06:37
raggedgentlemanit wont be just a iso right06:38
=== EricNeon is now known as Eric|LFS
raggedgentlemancool thanks dude06:40
zenroxyep it wont06:41
zenroxit will work basickly like a cdrom06:41
zenroxor any other mounted media06:41
andrewskianyone use abcde with flacs?06:42
=== hyphen [~hyphen@c-24-130-176-80.we.client2.attbi.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== hyphen is now known as hyphen-
azriel0184anyone know how to write an iso to a cd with xcdroast?06:47
=== HillTop [~chatzilla@cpe-204-210-35-9.san.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== da_bon_bon [~rohandhru@203.212.221.132] has joined #ubuntu
=== AcidWolf [~acidwolf@203.91.92.215.rev.eftel.com] has joined #ubuntu
da_bon_bonhi all06:51
da_bon_bonwazup ?06:51
=== HrdwrBoB [~matt@bob.is.teh.admin.at.vicnet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu
=== da_bon_bon [~rohandhru@203.212.221.132] has joined #ubuntu
da_bon_bonhi all06:53
haydendoes anyone know how to install a mac os x like dock for ubuntu06:53
zenroxazriel0184,  use gnomebaker or use k3b06:54
hyphen-can someone recommend me a good .wmv and .avi viewer?06:54
zenroxhyphen-, gxine06:54
azriel0184is it possible to mount an iso image as a file system?06:55
hyphen-is that available through apt?06:55
zenroxazriel0184,  yes read www.ubuntuguide.org06:55
zenroxhyphen-, you might have to enable extra respoties06:55
hyphen-ah06:56
=== Dreamer3 [~unknown@sdn-ap-009tnnashP0251.dialsprint.net] has joined #ubuntu
hyphen-i got it, thanks zen06:56
zenroxhyphen-,  but you can read the wiki on ubuntus webpage06:56
hyphen-will do06:56
hyphen-trying to do like 50 things at once06:56
zenroxlol06:56
hyphen-still having trouble with WINE too06:56
hyphen-cant figure out how to configure the damn thing06:57
zenroxhyphen-,  wine ant the most funnest tang to get worken06:57
da_bon_bonanyone got vmware running on hoary ?06:57
hyphen-so i'm learning, lol06:57
thoreauputicazriel0184: re: burning an iso - you can burn an iso from nautilus by choosing to from the right-click context menu (right click the iso file)06:57
hyphen-got any suggestions for an emulator?06:57
haydendoes anyone know how to install a mac os x like dock for ubuntu06:57
zenroxhyphen-,  use snyaptic and search for wine might be extra packages you can install06:57
hyphen-i tried that.  none that really help06:58
hyphen-just alpha versions06:58
da_bon_bonhyphen-: use the sidenet config script06:58
thoreauputichayden: please don't repeat06:58
andrewskihayden: dock?06:58
hyphen-i'll search for that, thanks  bon bon06:58
haydenlike the one used on mac os x06:58
andrewskihayden: dock?  (define please; i've never used os x)06:59
zenroxandrewski,  its like the bar06:59
thoreauputichayden: I believe there's a gdesklet that does something like that06:59
andrewskihayden: ^^06:59
haydenhmm06:59
farruinnthere is a gdesklet, but it's nothing like os x dock06:59
hyphen-andrweski:  osx has a small toolbar with icons that enlarge as your mouseover06:59
andrewskihayden: that's what i was going to say.  starterbar, it's called.06:59
hyphen-sort of like a magnifying glass06:59
haydenok06:59
andrewskihyphen-: yup, starterbar is like it.07:00
andrewskifarruinn: "nothing like"?07:00
farruinnhayden: what about that enlightenment thing you threw a link out for earlier?07:00
haydenyea07:00
farruinnandrewski: in terms of functionality07:00
haydeni haven't found a way to install it07:00
farruinnandrewski: personally, I'd rather just use another gnome panel than the gdesklet thing07:00
andrewskifarruinn: well, i don't find it very useful, but it's a bit of eyecandy i guess.07:01
azriel0184thoreauputic, yes, i did that already. :)07:01
farruinnexactly =)07:01
=== azriel0184 == monoxide btw
=== k3rnalPaniK [~encke@adsl-65-70-97-110.dsl.mdldtx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu
farruinnhayden: btw, that link prompted me to install enlightenment, and I must say, it's pretty spiffy07:02
haydenyea it looks pretty good from what i've seen07:02
haydenbut i have no idea on how to install it07:02
andrewskifarruinn: the ubuntu one, or the latest, e17?07:02
farruinnandrewski: backported it from hoary07:03
=== geeky_bodhi [~bodhi@61.16.150.118] has joined #ubuntu
da_bon_bonhey, am i alive ?07:03
andrewskifarruinn: ah, ok.  i hear there's a new one coming out soon that's supposed to be much better than the current version.  i find it a bit ugly, actually.07:03
farruinnandrewski: there are tons of themes though, right?  I kind of like the brushed-metal-blue07:04
revildabi installede16 just the other night, but it had no programs listed in the menu. i couldnt even load up a shell07:04
farruinnrevildab: you might need menu-xdg or something installed07:04
andrewskifarruinn: yeah, i didn't like the fonts; if i could select my own, i'd probably like it better. :)07:04
revildabhmm, alright farruinn ill try that, thanks07:04
=== helloyo [~alex@c211-30-78-117.belrs2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
=== da_bon_bon [~rohandhru@203.212.221.132] has joined #ubuntu
haydenfarruinn, how can i install the enlightenment thing?07:05
andrewskirevildab: i don't think it'll help.07:05
farruinnwhatever the package is that gives you the debian menu is what you want07:05
farruinnor get the menu editor07:05
helloyoi'm a long time kde user and have used some very complex heavily modified desktops, and let me tell you that ubuntu with gnome is a welcome change07:05
andrewskifarruinn: i have it for gnome, but e didn't have the menu.07:05
helloyoespecially the fact that i just got a printer working in 20 seconds that refused to work in kde07:06
=== Doomgaze [~Doomgaze@d149-67-229-91.try.wideopenwest.com] has joined #ubuntu
farruinnandrewski: control click the desktop07:06
=== cjennings [~cjennings@adsl-69-106-241-180.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu
andrewskifarruinn: well, i uninstalled it, i'm jus' sayin'.07:06
thoreauputicfarruinn: the package is called "menu" , amazingly enough (wow, a package name that makes sense...)07:06
thoreauputic;-)07:06
farruinnthoreauputic: awesome! =)07:06
farruinnandrewski: got it07:06
farruinnalt+f3 pops up a bubble with lots of hints07:07
farruinnthe problem I'm having is that the menus try to move themselves so they don't go off the screen, unfortunately it doesn't work if the menu is longer than the screen is tall07:08
farruinnand my "net" submenu is huge07:08
hyphen-bon bon, i have the sidenet wine config files, what do i do with them?07:08
andrewskifarruinn: hmm, well hopefully e17 will supply for both of us. :)07:08
farruinnandrewski: yeah, I'm definitely going to have to check it out at some point :D07:08
hyphen-poop07:08
andrewskifarruinn: i think i'll wait until it comes out.07:09
=== da_bon_bon [~rohandhru@203.212.221.132] has joined #ubuntu
=== _phate_ [~phate@phate-0002.user] has joined #ubuntu
=== benh [~benh@bh02i525f01.au.ibm.com] has joined #ubuntu
benhhrm...07:09
da_bon_bonhi all07:09
benhvery bad problem07:09
benhhuuuuuge bug07:09
andrewskihi da_bon_bon07:09
benhpolitical crisis !07:09
_phate_how do you tell if DRI is enabled for Xfree86?07:09
benhthere is no Canberra - ACT in the timezone list of the installer :)07:09
=== jdub_ [~jdub@cpe-069-132-106-022.carolina.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
benhno, we aren't in New South Wales !!!!07:10
jdub_yo i need help07:10
thoreauputicfarruinn: that menu issue is one of my annoyances with E as well - I like the eye candy, but I find it impractical07:10
_phate_jdub_: What do you need07:10
jdub_my boy just put linux on my pc but just passed out, im trying to instal lime wire and im lost07:10
helloyowhere does ubuntu get the funding for that free cd scheme (brilliant idea by the way)?07:10
andrewskigood night!07:11
farruinnandrewski: g'night07:11
jdub_when i get to the extract part it all goes to hell07:12
farruinnhelloyo: iirc Ubuntu was funded by an independently wealthy man who wanted to make a "better" linux or something07:12
thoreauputicjdub_: good to see you have your prorities straight ;) Install limewire befor reviving your boy...07:12
haydenfarruinn, how can i install the e dock thiung?07:12
revildablol thoreau07:12
jdub_naw he is good i put him in the tub07:12
farruinnhayden: looks like you'll have to build it from source07:13
hyphen-thoreau07:13
jdub_i cant get java its not there07:13
hyphen-dont you know that free music is worth the life of your best friend?07:13
farruinnjdub_: www.ubuntuguide.org is your friend07:13
thoreauputichyphen-: ;-)07:13
fschelloyo, shuttleworth was the first space tourist. he's funding07:13
=== Ivy6Quaff [~Sir@c906a0a6.virtua.com.br] has joined #ubuntu
jdub_cool07:13
haydenok07:13
hyphen-yeah i just went through ubuntuguide and it's been a HUUGE help07:13
revildabshuttleworth? the man has nothing on george soros, although i do love ubuntu07:14
jdub_cool beans now anyone got any ideas how to mess with someone passes out in a tub off of jack and coke07:15
hyphen-if this sidenet config works...then i can die a happy man07:15
thoreauputicjdub_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure boy-consciousness ?07:16
hyphen-hahah07:16
jdub_yea07:16
=== da_bon_bon [~rohandhru@203.212.221.132] has joined #ubuntu
pepsiwhich modules do i need to disable for nvidia drivers?07:16
pepsiglx?07:16
pepsido i need to disable any of them?07:17
da_bon_bonhi all07:17
=== NobleArc [~Freya@h24-207-83-49.cst.dccnet.com] has joined #ubuntu
revildabsuper bon bon is a great song, i now dub it your themesong07:17
=== Liz [~maori@203.87.27.63] has joined #ubuntu
cjenningshey bon bon07:18
hyphen-omg i think i got it to work07:19
thoreauputichyphen-: Ok, time to die then....07:19
=== oferw [~chatzilla@85-250-97-230.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ubuntu
ellsanyone familiar with copying home dvds07:20
helloyoells, yes07:20
da_bon_boncjennings: hiya07:20
helloyoells, albeit, into xvid07:20
hyphen-wait, not yet07:21
ellshelloyo, please help07:21
hyphen-i have to install maya and see if it really works07:21
hyphen-after that, feel free to kill me07:21
ellshelloyo, i ripped it using dvdrip07:21
da_bon_boncjennings: type the first three letters of a persons nick, and press tab. auto complete07:21
ellshow do i copy it to watch on my home player07:21
helloyoells, i'm new to ubuntu, but i have used dvdrip a lot07:21
ellshelloyo, cool07:21
thoreauputichyphen-: any minute now a dialogue will pop up that says "Fatal Error" ;-)07:21
helloyoells, not 100% sure, but i can point you in the right direction07:22
ellshelloyo, okay, how can I make a dvd to watch on my home player using the vobs07:22
hyphen-if that happens07:22
helloyoells, dvds are encrypted with css, so you need that library, but with dvdrip you should already have it. the problem with dvdrip is that it rips titles, not the whole dvd. might be best to copy the whole dvd, and burn that exactly, not sure how this works though sorry07:22
hyphen-i will have to break open a can of god knows what07:22
hyphen-on the world07:22
ellshelloyo, I ripped it07:22
=== da_bon_bon [~rohandhru@203.212.221.132] has joined #ubuntu
helloyoells, a lot of dvd players can play vobs if thats how you want to watch it07:23
=== helll [~abc@66-188-89-111.mad.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu
ellshelloyo, okay, how can I compile it07:23
ellshelloyo, i tried just copying the vobs, that did not work07:23
helloyoells? compile? no need to do that07:24
helloyocan you view the vobs with any media players?07:24
ellshelloyo, when i copied the vobs, that did not work07:24
ellsI can watch them07:24
helloyoells, have you tried burning them to dvd and trying that on your player?07:24
hyphen-maybe someone can help me07:24
helloyododgy, but it might work07:25
ellshelloyo, yeap07:25
hyphen-when i run the autorun.exe through winelauncher, it loads up07:25
=== Zaww [z@81.213.226.179] has joined #ubuntu
helllcan somebody help me out. I just downoaded and installed the ubuntu linux os, but it will not go past the "Loading grub 1.5" screen after i have rebooted the system from an install07:25
Zawwhey google www.otomotivshow.com07:25
hyphen-but when i click "install" it stays idle07:25
=== Zaww [z@81.213.226.179] has left #ubuntu []
thoreauputicgrrr another drive-by spammer07:26
hyphen-well thoreau, looks like i will die another day07:27
=== wezzer [~antti@a80-186-42-221.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu
thoreauputichyphen-: ah, well, be prepared...07:27
thoreauputichehe07:27
hyphen-har07:27
helllanybody? help please?07:27
=== Madeye [~Jad@213.186.188.32] has joined #Ubuntu
crimsunhelll: more debugging information necessary07:28
helllwell07:29
helllhow can i get more debugging information07:29
helllit installed sucessfully07:29
crimsunhelll: right. Does it get to Starting Ubuntu... ?07:29
hellland then it tells me to take the cd out of the cd rom and push ok then it will reboot07:30
helllno07:30
helllit gets to this screen07:30
hellllemme go see exactly wht it says07:30
helloyois totem a decent enough movie player to bother fixing? can't get an image up07:30
=== Echylo [~Echylo@211.161-201-80.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu
=== pepsi [~pepsi@72-254-7-123.client.stsn.net] has joined #ubuntu
Amaranthtotem is awesome in its simplicity07:31
helll"grub stage 1.5"..."Grub loading, Please wait."07:31
helloyoyeah, thats why i wanted to give it a go07:31
helllits been like this for ~10 minutes now07:31
helllive rebooted07:31
helllsame thing07:31
helloyoAmaranth, but it won't play anything proprly07:31
crimsunhelll: and what if you choose repair/safe mode?07:32
helllgrub wont boot07:32
Echyloanybody has experience with dyndns update clients?07:32
helllit goes through my bios, then to more system information, then the bios hits07:33
helllerr07:33
helllthen grub loads instead of the bios hits07:33
hellllol07:33
thoreauputicEchylo: ez-ipupdate07:33
Echylobut it has to work with dyndns.org07:33
thoreauputicEchylo: you can apt-get install it07:33
hellli dont know what to do07:33
thoreauputicit will07:33
helllim stuck07:33
EchyloI have a domain called07:33
Echyloechylon.mine.nu07:33
Echylodynamic ip07:33
=== BiteMeBill [~antiM$@oh-67-77-123-4.dyn.sprint-hsd.net] has joined #ubuntu
Quarupthere comes kubuntu07:33
=== da_bon_bon [~rohandhru@203.212.221.132] has joined #ubuntu
Echylobut it will work thoreauputic?07:34
=== difekta [~BROKEN@h-68-164-187-45.snfccasy.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #UBUNTU
=== |Gunther| [~|Gunther|@edtntnt9-port-227.dial.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu
helloyoany ideas on how to get video in totem? fresh 4.10 install07:35
Quaruptwhat version of kde is the current kubuntu?07:35
Quarupt3.3?07:35
thoreauputicEchylo: well, it's easy to try it - just choose to let debconf configure it and it will ask you for details07:35
thoreauputicEchylo: should be fine, I think07:35
Echylohmm07:35
Echylolet me try07:35
|Gunther|hi07:35
=== _4strO [~astro@AStrasbourg-251-1-14-8.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu
Echylohow to work with debconf?07:36
Echylocause I did debconf ez-ipupdate but It seems to do nothing07:36
=== hyphen [~hyphen@c-24-130-176-80.we.client2.attbi.com] has joined #ubuntu
helllcan somebody help me out. I just downoaded and installed the ubuntu linux os, but it will not go past the "Loading grub 1.5" screen after i have rebooted the system from an install07:36
thoreauputicEchylo: just apt-get install, chosse automatic when it asks07:37
=== FireEgl [Ariel@Atlantica.CJB.Net] has joined #Ubuntu
=== setite [setite@ip68-108-160-46.lv.lv.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu
thoreauputicEchylo: and answer the questions07:37
Echylo???07:37
setitewhen is 5.04 gonna be available07:37
zenroxsetite, april?? may??07:37
setitei recall someone a while back telling me that the preview would be available in march07:37
thoreauputicEchylo: is it installed??07:37
Echyloez-ipupdate is installed07:37
Echylodebconf was already installed07:37
setitei really want to use linux again07:37
Echylobut I didn't had to answer questions07:38
EchyloIt just said there was no .conf file07:38
thoreauputicEchylo: when you installed, it should have asked how you waned it configured07:38
thoreauputic*wanted07:38
Echylono it didn't07:38
thoreauputicEchylo: you chose automatic?07:38
hyphenhow does everyone compare ubuntu to redhat?07:38
=== quazion__ [~quazion@bsm-c-5628.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu
Echylohow should I chose that ? :07:39
helllanybody please? i want my system up tonight07:39
helllor i would like itup tonight07:39
=== fabbione [~fabbione@port49.ds1-van.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu
zenroxEchylo, just do a sudo dpkg-reconfigure ez-ipupdate07:39
_4strOyop yop07:40
Echylothanks07:40
zenroxEchylo, that help07:40
=== Quarupt [~Quarupt@c-67-170-1-214.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
Echylohmm07:41
=== saad [~saad@zeff.docisland.org] has joined #ubuntu
|Gunther|I use Fedora Core 2 more than Ubuntu, mostly because I h8 Ubuntu's default theme in gnome, and I get only a 400x600 screen when I use it, maybe I should try Nvidia's drivers07:41
revildabmight be your x settings07:42
hyphenreally?  i just installed ubuntu last night and i get 1600x120007:42
revildabi know i had to change mine to enable 1600x120007:42
Quaruptwow kde isnt bad07:42
helllcan somebody help me out. I just downoaded and installed the ubuntu linux os, but it will not go past the "Loading grub 1.5" screen after i have rebooted the system from an install07:42
zenrox|Gunther|, i have 1600x1200 on an nvidia card07:42
farruinn|Gunther|: heh, yeah you should be able to get better resolution than that07:42
helloyoi've installed gstreamer-plugins, but totem still only plays mpg, can somebody please help?07:43
wezzerhelloyo: sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad07:43
zenroxhelloyo, and sudo apt-get install totem-xine07:44
=== Suvroc [Corvus@85.86.233.133] has joined #ubuntu
zenroxhelloyo, and w32codecs07:44
helllcan somebody please help me? my system will not boot grub after a ubuntu install!07:44
helloyook, thanks guys07:45
|Gunther|I have another question guys07:45
zenrox|Gunther|, ok07:45
thoreauputichelloyo: also http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats07:45
=== ukilledkenny [~drool_66@yong-a-043.resnet.purdue.edu] has joined #ubuntu
=== hayden [~hayden@203-219-130-10-qld.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
|Gunther|I forgot my regular user pwd, either I can attempt to remember it, or there is a User account for root that I can log into? I am Novice when it comes to creating user accounts in Terminal or whatever07:46
ukilledkennyi just upgraded from warty to hoary... now x isnt starting up... wats the apt-get command to use07:46
ukilledkenny...?07:47
zenrox|Gunther|,  thare is another way to recover the pass from using a live cd07:47
zenrox|Gunther|,  but i dont know how07:47
helllsomebody please?? any ideas? im getting very fustrated07:47
=== mameluke [~bo@84-72-15-187.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #ubuntu
zenroxukilledkenny, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg07:47
farruinnhelll: does it fail when rebooting after the first phase of the install?07:47
helllfarruinn: yes07:48
helloyook, totem-xine wants to remove ubuntu-desktop, that would be bad wouldn't it?07:48
ukilledkennyzenrox thanx07:48
farruinnhelll: do you get any sort of information printed on the screen?07:48
zenroxukilledkenny,  n/p07:48
helllfarruinn: do i have to do anything special to the format if i tell it to do the automatic partitoning?07:48
farruinnhelll: no, nothing to worry about07:48
helllfarruinn: besids waiting for gub to startup, nothing07:48
helllgrub*07:48
farruinnoops, helloyo, that's nothing to worry aobut07:49
=== schasi [~schasi@pD95E3B99.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu
virtuald|Gunther|: doesn't "recovery mode" in grub's menu get you to a root shell?07:49
helloyofarruinn, if you say so...07:49
Quaruptwhats a good C/Cpp development client/enviroment/shell thingy?07:49
zenroxvirtuald,  yes07:49
zenroxfirgot about that07:49
paulproteusQuarupt: I hear good things about KDevelop.07:49
virtualdB] 07:49
farruinnhelloyo: it's a metapackage, as in doesn't actually install anything, just depends on a lot of other packages07:50
Quaruptok ill try it out07:50
Quaruptthx07:50
helllfarruinn: any ideas?07:50
haydenhow do i get gdesklets to work?07:50
farruinnhelll: the automatic paritioning should have done it's job07:50
Quaruptdoesnt seem to come with kubuntu guess i will need to DL it07:50
farruinnits*07:50
cjenningshelloyo: I did the same thing yesterday. no problems for me, if that gives you more confidence.07:50
schasidoes someone know about klik in here?07:50
=== io [~io@gate.ementor.no] has joined #ubuntu
helloyocjennings, haha, yeah ok, thanks07:50
=== JordanAU [~Jordan@cable-24-181-119-185.abr.al.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu
helllfarruinn: alright...but i dont get why grub is not booting07:51
farruinnhelll: what specifically does it say on your screen?07:51
zenroxhelll,  might have botched the instial install07:51
|Gunther|yeah sure, I think it can07:51
helllfarruinn: grub loading 1.5   (new line) loading grub, please wait07:51
Quaruptif your writing a bash script, and you want to do something with sudo, can you do like sudo cd /blah/blah  and put the password on the next line?07:51
JordanAUhi i just installed ubuntu for the first time07:52
helllfarruinn: has been displaying that for about 25 minutes now07:52
zenrox|Gunther|, if it can then just do a password change command to the user07:52
JordanAUit runs great except i cant connect to my wireless network07:52
farruinnhelll: I would try reinstalling07:52
=== ompaul [~ompaul@213-202-179-213.bas504.dsl.esat.net] has joined #ubuntu
farruinnhelll: but then again I'm no grub expert (I use macs mostly)07:52
cjenningshelll: I second reinstalling. Just use all the defaults if you can (automatic partitioning, etc).07:53
zenroxwe need a good walk thru the install07:53
helllfarruinn: have, 3 times07:53
farruinnhelll: same result each time?07:53
helllfarruinn: correct07:53
hyphencan someone recommend me a windows emulator aside from wine?07:53
farruinnwhat do you have for partitions?07:53
helllfarruinn: this time was with a new cd...thinkin the grub on that cd was fubared07:53
JordanAUi am presently looking for linksys drivers any hits as to that? Also all of my music is stored on a windows Fat32 partition, ubuntu doesn't seem to see it, how do i detect that partition?07:53
zenroxhelll,  have the bios setting saying no pnp os07:53
=== da_bon_bon [~rohandhru@203.212.221.132] has joined #ubuntu
=== ompaul wonders if anyone has hoary array 6 live and would consider giving some upload time to it
cjenningshelll, was there anything on that drive before?07:54
JordanAUhits/hints07:54
zenroxerrr notpnpos07:54
da_bon_bonhi all07:54
da_bon_bonanyone here usin vmware ?07:54
cjenningshyphen, vmware is the only other choice I know of.07:54
cjenningsda_bon_bon, used to, but don't anymore. great software.07:54
helllfarruinn: nothing lal the same...but one thing that i do remember is that i had to use ide=nodma or something like that for my gentoo installation because it wasnt seeing my hds07:54
zenroxhelll,  how fast you burn the cd07:54
hyphencjennings:  thanks, i'll look into that07:54
helllfarruinn: oh yes i had fedora installed on my drive...uh this one i burnt it at 21x07:55
cjenningshyphen, it's non-free software, just so you know.07:55
zenroxhelll,  burn at 4x07:55
hyphenah poop07:55
Quaruptgedit has syntax coloring????07:55
hypheni need something free07:55
=== mameluke [~bo@84-72-15-187.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #ubuntu
zenroxhelll,  you burn reliably at slower speeds07:55
hypheni'm trying so hard not to go back to windows, but if i can't get my 3d software to run then i must :/07:55
|Gunther|hyphen: ungh. cedega07:55
hyphencedega eh?07:56
zenroxor wineX07:56
helllfarruinn: um...ive burnt hundreds of cds at 51x for os's...never had one fuck up on me....but now i doubt this is a cd issue07:56
zenroxewww07:56
hyphenhaha07:56
=== stub [~stub@dsl-246.248.240.220.dsl.comindico.com.au] has left #ubuntu []
zenroxhelll,  i had to burn at 4x if i burnt faster it woulent get past the grub loader07:56
zenroxeither07:56
farruinnhelll: I think there's your answer ^^^07:57
helllfarruinn: one thing im confused about is the auto-partition only does swap and ext3...no boot partition07:57
farruinnhelll: that could be a problem too =)07:57
zenroxand put /boot on another partion07:57
farruinnhelll: when I do an install I make free space then I "automatically parition the free space"07:57
zenroxand /home in another partion you'll thank me lator07:57
=== poxymox [~test@dsl-082-082-094-198.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu
farruinnzenrox: good call =)07:58
helllfarruinn: heh and i rebooted my computer just now, and its complaining that it doesnt find a god damn os07:58
=== TongMaster [~TongMaste@adsl-2-82.lo1.lns1.server-access.com] has joined #ubuntu
farruinnhelll: no /boot makes it unhappy07:58
=== dazed [~dazed@host-208-60-229-155.bhm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu
farruinnzenrox: good call, of course mine's on a separate drive - makes life so much easier07:58
helllfarruinn: i think the auto partitioner should make a boot...but lemme reinstall sense ive done it half a dozen times im sure this wont do shit07:58
farruinnhelll: well this time if it doesn't make a /boot, make a /boot07:59
farruinnbut the auto partition should create the necessary partitions07:59
dazedhallo all07:59
zenroxfarruinn,  i have a 40 gig 19.7gb /home 20gig /  and a 256mb swap(that i only use 2.88 megs out of)07:59
helllfarruinn: the manual partition thing confuses the hell out of me07:59
=== stub [~stub@dsl-246.248.240.220.dsl.comindico.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
helllfuck it im installing windows07:59
zenroxhelll,  ill walk you tharu it07:59
JordanAUMy new Ubuntu Install does not see my windows fat32 partition, How can I fix this???07:59
zenroxhelll,  msg me07:59
=== wdh [~KlaasVaag@82-197-204-94.dsl.cambrium.nl] has joined #ubuntu
=== ukilledkenny [~drool_66@yong-a-043.resnet.purdue.edu] has joined #ubuntu
thoreauputicJordanAU: edit /etc/fstab   put umask=002 and uid=1000 gid=1000 in th eptions field for that partition08:02
thoreauputic*options08:02
=== Suvroc is now known as Corvus
ukilledkennyzenrox, i got the error message xorg is broken or not completely installed08:02
zenroxJordanAU,  read www.ubuntuguide.org08:02
zenroxukilledkenny,  try sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg then the reconfigure one08:02
=== revildab is now known as revildab|sleep
eyequeueukilledkenny:  just a quickie: try "sudo apt-get install -f"08:03
poxymoxJordanAU: You need to install fat-filesystem support too, i think08:03
ukilledkennythanx08:03
dazedthoreauputic: Hey...you know why i cant have any other sounds play when xmms is playing?08:03
=== ukilledkenny [~drool_66@yong-a-043.resnet.purdue.edu] has left #ubuntu []
=== |Gunther| [~|Gunther|@edtntnt9-port-227.dial.telus.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
poxymoxzenrox: There ist a apt-comand to reconfige too i think08:04
zenroxpoxymox,  ya but the dpkg-reconfigure i think is better08:04
zenroximho08:04
poxymoxok!08:04
jesperIf I should address an official "thank you" for the shipit-program, where should I send it?08:05
=== Tomcat_ [Tomcat@p54A1F3C4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== stub [~stub@dsl-246.248.240.220.dsl.comindico.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
=== JordanAU [~Jordan@cable-24-181-119-185.abr.al.charter.com] has left #ubuntu []
=== hayden [~hayden@203-219-130-10-qld.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
=== mumak [~jml@ppp111-55.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== pitti [~martin@box79162.elkhouse.de] has joined #ubuntu
poxymoxjesper: I find an Adress at this pdf: http://people.ubuntulinux.org/~mako/ubuntu_cds-customs_letter-generic.pdf08:12
jesperpoxymox, thanks.08:13
=== thoreauputic_ [~debianarc@wolax7-021.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
=== hayden [~hayden@203-219-130-10-qld.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
haydenhow do i install a *.deb file?08:15
=== stub [~stub@dsl-246.248.240.220.dsl.comindico.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
_4strOdpkg -i08:15
haydenok thanks08:15
=== iiki [~iiki@c-24-11-3-125.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== azriel0184 [~azriel018@dialup-130.31.221.203.acc12-dryb-mel.comindico.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
iikihey folks08:16
Micksaokay, I have a tricky one08:17
iikiim a linux noob but ill try08:17
MicksaI have a box that was warty and got apt-get dist-upgraded to hoary08:17
Micksaand gnome-panel and nautilus both crash on startup08:17
Micksaeven from a clean account08:17
iikisry cant help08:17
iikiim still on warty08:17
membreyaso can anyone suggest some good gnome based games? already playing chromium and frozen-bubble08:18
Micksado they have to be gnome-based?08:18
membreyapreferably..but any games are good :)08:18
Micksawrite one 8)08:18
membreyalol08:18
azriel0184Micksa, try running them from a console08:19
azriel0184armagetron08:19
=== ukilledkenny [~ukilledke@yong-a-043.resnet.purdue.edu] has joined #ubuntu
ukilledkennyzenrox, yay08:19
azriel0184he has a point membreya... ;)08:19
iikihas anyone here gotten diablo 2 to run on ubuntu08:20
membreyai can barely type my own name :P08:20
ukilledkennyit worked... didnt use the dpkg-reconfigure command though08:20
haydenhow do i install java 2 sdk?08:20
azriel0184membreya, sounds like youd be perfect for programming ;)08:20
Micksaazriel: I tried from an xterm if that's what you mean ;)08:20
membreyalol azriel018408:21
Micksano change.08:21
_4strOhayden> jrtfm08:21
_4strO:p08:21
iikihayden go to the unbuntu website-->docs-->unoffical startup guide08:21
iikiand it tells there08:21
azriel0184Micksa, what does it say?08:21
Micksait's your standard "application has crashed" dialog08:21
iikitells you everything there08:21
haydennoob08:21
Micksawell, ubuntu's standard :)08:21
zenroxukilledkenny,  have phun08:21
iikii really like unbuntu08:21
azriel0184no idea then08:22
iikifinlly a distro of linux that i can stick w/08:22
ukilledkennycan someone help me install flash on hoary real quick08:22
=== azriel0184 == monoxide if anyone cares...
Micksa"The Application 'gnome-panel' has quit unexpectedly."08:22
_4strOflash ?08:22
azriel0184membreya, thats why im picking on you ;) :P08:22
ukilledkennythe plugin for firefox08:22
=== saad [~saad@zeff.docisland.org] has joined #ubuntu
=== thoreauputic_ is now known as thoreuputic
_4strOukilledkenny> go on www.drum-bass.net08:23
zenroxukilledkenny,  read www.ubuntuguide.org08:23
=== techn9ne [~jeremy@S0106000f66ddc57e.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== thoreuputic is now known as thoreauputic
ukilledkennyk08:23
Micksaukilledkenny: use synaptic to install a package called "swf-play"08:24
Micksathat should work with firefox, I think.08:24
=== Benoni [~liblit@ppp-68-249-85-169.dsl.mdsnwi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu
helloyoso glad i gave ubuntu another shot, its running sweet!08:24
ukilledkennysynaptic?08:25
_4strOfor install plugin flash u only have to go on a flash website08:25
_4strOand then click on the part where is write that u don't have it08:26
_4strO--> www.ultimatum.fr08:26
=== kzm [~ketil@sefirot.ii.uib.no] has joined #ubuntu
=== IiHp [~Dlmu@abn136-135.interaktif.net.tr] has joined #ubuntu
ukilledkennyill download the flash-plugin file from firefox and then run apt-get install flashplayer mozilla08:27
_4strOno08:28
_4strOdowload and instll from firefox08:28
=== Benoni [~liblit@ppp-68-249-85-169.dsl.mdsnwi.ameritech.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
_4strOjust follow the instruction08:28
ukilledkenny_4strO: i never had any luck with this installation, even with following the instructions... hopefully hoary will be less merciful08:29
_4strO^08:29
_4strOstrange08:30
_4strOnever see pb on it08:30
=== AlohaWolf [alohawolf@cpe-67-49-96-168.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== Benjamin_L [~benni@pD950D6EF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== HrdwrBoB [~matt@bob.is.teh.admin.at.vicnet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu
_4strOukilledkenny> result ?08:33
=== Burgundavia [~Burgundav@S0106000000cc07fc.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== maximaus [~max@user-37kac2j.dialup.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu
hyphenanyone here familiar with wine and wanna help me out real quick?08:34
_4strOi have to go ...08:35
_4strOsee ya ...08:35
=== _4strO is now known as _4`aw
techn9ne hyphen: #winhq08:36
techn9newinehq08:36
hyphenoh, thanks :P08:36
helloyohow do i get my desktop to reflect my home folder?08:37
raggedgentlemandoes anyone have a compiled ccd2iso?08:37
=== ICU [~me@host-95173.ewetel.de] has joined #ubuntu
raggedgentlemani am having trouble compileing it08:37
raggedgentlemanwhat is aclocal?08:37
raggedgentlemanaclocal.m408:38
crimsunraggedgentleman: aclocal is part of the automake package08:41
crimsunraggedgentleman: aclocal.m4 is a macro file08:41
crimsunraggedgentleman: you can read more about gnu autoconf, automake, etc. via your favourite search engine08:42
raggedgentlemancrimsun, ok well when i try to compile that shit it exits with an error08:42
raggedgentlemanim trying to run make08:42
haydencrimsun, do know how i can install j2sdk08:43
crimsunraggedgentleman: is the 'build-essential' package installed?08:43
Quaruptis there some kind of IRC server that has a setup wizard or a GUI?08:43
crimsunQuarupt: server? not that I know of08:43
raggedgentlemancrimsun, no it was not08:43
=== maney_ [~maney@220.89.83.165] has joined #ubuntu
Quaruptok thx08:44
maney_hello08:44
=== linuxboy [~anon@yoda.frogfoot.net] has joined #ubuntu
crimsunraggedgentleman: what program are you trying to compile?08:44
maney_I want to report about conflict at package system.08:44
=== Gman [~Glynn@amfea-proxy-1.sun.com] has joined #ubuntu
maney_if I try to install k3b, and then apt system try to install kcontrol.08:45
raggedgentlemancrimsun, its called ccd2iso08:45
maney_and kcontrol try to overwrite at /usr/bin/kcmshell.08:45
raggedgentlemancrimsun, it takes CloneCD images and converts them into isos08:45
raggedgentlemanyou know .img .ccd .sub08:45
maney_so it is killed by broken pipe.08:45
raggedgentlemanthose08:45
maney_anyone in here try to install k3b?08:45
crimsunraggedgentleman: not familiar w/ the innards of clonecd, sorry.08:45
raggedgentlemancrimsun, yeah well i have some imgs that id like to use with linux08:46
crimsunmaney_: what package/version is conflicting with that file?08:46
=== ArtVandalae [SomeGuy@ppp158-26.lns1.mel3.internode.on.net] has left #Ubuntu []
helloyodoes anyone know how to make my desktop reflect my home directory?08:47
raggedgentlemancrimsun, and i dont have any win part. so.. this is my only opt. thanks, so with this package i should be able to build stuff now08:47
thoreauputichelloyo: saw your question - don't understand it08:47
crimsunhayden: https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java1508:47
maney_crimsun, kcontrol_4%3a3.3.2-1ubuntu7_i386.deb08:47
maney_I'm hoary.08:47
raggedgentlemancrimsun, maybe this is why ive never successfully compiled anything with a make file08:47
thoreauputichelloyo: what do you mean "mirror " ?08:48
crimsunraggedgentleman: you may need additional -dev packages.08:48
thoreauputicor reflect or whatever08:48
=== pro [~pro@pro.user] has joined #ubuntu
crimsunmaney_: hmm, it's installed fine here.08:48
helloyothoreauputic, i've worked it out, what i meant was that all my files in the home directory were accesible from the desktop08:49
crimsunmaney_: dpkg -S /usr/bin/kcmshell08:49
thoreauputichelloyo: ok08:49
raggedgentlemancrimsun, yeah... do you know what that package is called?08:49
maney_kdelibs-bin: /usr/bin/kcmshell08:49
maney_it is result of dpkg -S /usr/bin/kcmshell08:49
crimsunmaney_: dpkg -l kdelibs-bin|grep ^ii08:50
crimsunraggedgentleman: there may not be just one package.08:50
maney_ii  kdelibs-bin    3.4.0-0pre1ubu KDE core binaries08:50
=== aya [~aya@national-2-82-66-184-192.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu
crimsunmaney_: paste the output of the following in #flood: apt-cache policy kdelibs-bin08:51
=== uMkulu [~uMkulu@196.36.45.205] has joined #ubuntu
prouMkulu, how are you?08:51
raggedgentlemancrimsun, mm great sounds fun.08:51
prouMkulu, time?08:52
=== alex_ [~alex@c211-30-78-117.belrs2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
thoreauputicpro: I believe uMkulu is now +q  :(08:53
prommm, seems like it08:53
thoreauputicpro: some controversy about bots yesterday08:53
raggedgentlemancrimsun, so what are u saying? how can i find out wich ones ill need?08:54
crimsunmaney_: hmm. Must have been updated within the past 6 hours.08:54
=== quazion_ [~quazion@bsm-c-5628.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu
raggedgentlemancrimsun, i think i just need this one aclocal.m4 right?08:55
crimsunmaney_: sec, running dist-upgrade08:55
maney_ah... so source mirror site have problem?08:55
raggedgentlemancant i just dl this one file?08:55
maney_ah?;;08:55
maney_ok08:55
crimsunraggedgentleman: why do you need that file? Are you trying to build from upstream cvs/svn?08:55
haydenthanks for the java link crimsun08:55
=== aya [~aya@national-2-82-66-184-192.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu
crimsunhayden: np08:56
prothoreauputic, i'll make a plan. but the staffer i need to speak to only wakes up later,08:56
crimsunmaney_: did you use apt-get, aptitude, synaptic, or dselect?08:56
prothoreauputic, but thanks, i was tring to look in his logs whats going on08:56
maney_apt-get08:56
crimsunk08:56
crimsun(sec, dist-upgrade is still running)08:56
raggedgentlemanmake08:57
raggedgentlemancd . && /bin/sh /home/raggedgentleman/ccd2iso/missing --run aclocal-1.608:57
raggedgentleman/home/raggedgentleman/ccd2iso/missing: line 46: aclocal-1.6: command not found08:57
raggedgentlemanWARNING: `aclocal-1.6' is needed, and you do not seem to have it handy on your08:57
raggedgentleman         system.  You might have modified some files without having the08:57
raggedgentleman         proper tools for further handling them.  Check the `README' file,08:57
raggedgentleman         it often tells you about the needed prerequirements for installing08:57
raggedgentleman         this package.  You may also peek at any GNU archive site, in case08:57
raggedgentleman         some other package would contain this missing `aclocal-1.6' program.08:57
raggedgentlemanmake: *** [aclocal.m4]  Error 108:57
thoreauputicpro: seems jdub, bob2 and daniels (?) don't want bots in the channel08:57
crimsunraggedgentleman: please don't flood in here08:57
thoreauputicraggedgentleman: I hope that was a mistake...08:57
=== pro is now known as tokoloshi
raggedgentlemanyeah i didnt know it would send after apast08:58
=== msturm [~msturm@t-20-214.athome.tue.nl] has joined #ubuntu
membreyalo thoreauputic :)08:58
AcidWolffor some reason i cant seem to satisfy the dependencies for Bittorrent PPC08:59
AcidWolf:(08:59
thoreauputicmembreya: hello - how's life in the sociopathic world?  ;-)08:59
crimsunraggedgentleman: sudo apt-get install automake1.608:59
membreyaemotionally detached :)08:59
membreyabut on the plus side I got squid up and running :)09:00
thoreauputicmembreya: makes sense09:00
membreya:D09:00
thoreauputicmembreya: emotional detachment would be an advantage for getting squid running I would guess...09:00
membreyaintegrate myself into a nerdy world, obtain the information required...and then bail with no remorse :P09:01
thoreauputicmembreya: ah, yes, chameleon tactics...09:02
=== housetier [~housetier@dsl-084-056-132-093.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu
membreyai am glad I got squid running though :)09:03
AcidWolfi need some help09:03
AcidWolf Depends: python (>= 2.4) but 2.3.4-1ubuntu1 is to be installed                  Depends: libwxgtk2.4-python but it is not going to be installed09:03
thoreauputicmembreya: glad to hear the detachment is not complete ;-)09:03
AcidWolfi have both those packages installed09:03
crimsunmaney_: try running sudo aptitude dist-upgrade09:04
AcidWolfhowever it still says the dependencies are unmet09:04
AcidWolf:(09:04
crimsunmaney_: using aptitude, I was able to install that package just fine09:04
=== tuppa [~tuppa@c220-237-30-103.mirnd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
raggedgentlemancrimsun, still same error even after installing that new package09:05
=== martink [~martin@pD9EB2A53.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu
crimsunraggedgentleman: why are you running make directly?09:05
crimsunraggedgentleman: did you run ./configure first?09:05
=== pitti_ [~pitti@box79162.elkhouse.de] has joined #ubuntu
maney_crimsun, yes I'll09:05
thoreauputicAcidWolf: tried running sudo apt-get update then attempting the install again?09:05
=== jimmy_deanWork [~jhodapp@65.243.209.81] has joined #ubuntu
raggedgentlemancrimsun, yeah i did, should i do it again, since i installed that new package?09:06
AcidWolfyes i ahve thoreauputic09:06
membreyathoreauputic: ....can you recommend any games?09:06
=== cybdeb [~cybdeb4@hki2-5-1-7a.hoasnet.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu
=== zeeble [~milliways@zeeble.user] has joined #ubuntu
crimsunraggedgentleman: yes09:06
thoreauputicAcidWolf: OK - just checking the obvious :)09:06
AcidWolfany other suggestions09:06
thoreauputicmembreya: seduction is always fun, or cycling...09:06
thoreauputicmembreya: or both at once...09:07
membreyaI was talking about linux games, not real life ones :P09:07
=== [core] [~core@pegasos.logismos.gr] has joined #ubuntu
=== PVVHAp [SDoBES@resnet158-137.medford.tufts.edu] has joined #ubuntu
thoreauputicmembreya: ah, there's a difference ... didn't notice ;-)09:08
membreya:P09:08
thoreauputicmembreya: linux is a game for me09:09
=== dbo [~dbo@cpe-069-132-106-022.carolina.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
dboHI!09:09
thoreauputic:)09:09
dbois everyone haveing a good day?09:09
dboGOOD!09:09
membreyasadist thoreauputic09:09
[core] hi!09:09
dboi need a p2p program that's in apt-get and will work out of the box09:09
thoreauputicmembreya: did you mean masochist?09:09
dbomake the pain go away09:09
membreyano...sadist09:09
membreyadbo amule :)09:09
thoreauputichehe09:09
membreyaor just download azureus09:10
=== quazion__ [~quazion@bsm-c-5628.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu
membreyaand I call you a sadist thoreauputic because you seem to enjoy taunting me09:10
=== thoreauputic hands membreya a 40 Kg UNIX manual
membreyaooooo revised compact edition :D09:10
thoreauputicmembreya: mwuhahaha !09:10
thoreauputicmembreya: yes, the Concise Edition :)09:11
membreyait's actually just the index pages for the entire linux manual :)09:11
thoreauputicmembreya: actually it's the Microfiche edition - you need a Microfiche machine from 1975 to read it ;-)09:12
membreyahahah :P09:13
membreyausing punch cards to operate it ?09:13
thoreauputicof course09:13
thoreauputicor jsut patch cords and toggle switches09:13
=== IvyCQHome [~Sir@c906a0a6.virtua.com.br] has joined #ubuntu
=== Gman [~Glynn@amfea-proxy-1.sun.com] has joined #ubuntu
membreyaDIP switches :P09:14
=== dbo [~dbo@cpe-069-132-106-022.carolina.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== hyphen [~hyphen@c-24-130-176-80.we.client2.attbi.com] has joined #ubuntu
raggedgentlemancrimsun, same error =o(09:17
zenroxone more sucess storie for me09:17
zenroxhelll got his pc to take ubuntu09:17
zenroxthe ubuntu virus strikes agine09:17
thoreauputiczenrox: well done :)09:17
crimsunraggedgentleman: paste the error in #flood09:18
tokoloshispeaking of virus, you guys worked in wnidows lately?09:18
thoreauputiczenrox: what was the problem, in the end?09:18
zenroxthoreauputic, /boot , /home , /09:18
zenroxand swap09:18
membreyatokoloshi: been about a week since I've been to windows09:18
zenroxjust needed /booy09:18
zenroxerr /boot09:18
AcidWolfThe following packages have unmet dependencies:09:18
AcidWolf  libwxgtk2.4-python: Depends: libwxgtk2.4 (>= 2.4.2.6ubuntu1) but 2.4.2.4ubuntu1 is to be installed09:18
AcidWolf:(09:19
=== _bryan [~bryan@Toronto-HSE-ppp3915733.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu
raggedgentlemancrimsun, and i did run ./configure again09:19
zenroxAcidWolf,  your trying to install a progam that uses a hoary package09:19
AcidWolfzenrox i have all the hoary repositiries anabled in /etc/apt/sources.list so shouldnt the dependencies be met automatically09:20
_bryanjust made the switch from Windows to ubuntu, can't find my second hdd. i tried 'mount hdb' and 'mount hdb1' but to no avail09:20
zenroxAcidWolf,  did you do a dist-upgrade09:20
AcidWolfor will it take a dist-upgrade09:20
zenroxit will take a dist-upgrade09:20
crimsunraggedgentleman: apt-get install libtool autoconf09:21
membreya_bryan: does dmesg show it's been found?09:21
AcidWolfno i havent done dist upgrade cause i am running on Apple G4 powerbook and haory runs extremely unstable for me on it09:21
zenroxthen un enable the hoary sorces09:21
_bryanyup, it says: hdb: WDC WD1600JB-00GVA0, ATA DISK drive09:21
zenroxand stick with warty09:21
=== pdr [~pdr@213.86.35.150] has joined #ubuntu
AcidWolfso then if i wanted to use bittorrent in warty what would i have to do09:22
=== zeeble [~milliways@zeeble.user] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
AcidWolfive tried alot of things09:22
membreya_bryan: what command are you using to mount the drive?09:22
_bryaneerr, i did 'mount /dev/hdb'09:23
zenroxAcidWolf, i dont know wnay other way other then compiling it your self09:23
AcidWolfok09:23
=== SiRrUs [~SiRrUs@HSE-MTL-ppp77407.qc.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu
hyphenhere's a super noob question for you guys09:24
thoreauputicapt-get -t hoary install package   might work, but I haven't tried that on ubuntu09:24
hyphenif i wanted to run a setup file in my cdrom with wine through a terminal, how would i do that?09:24
zenroxthoreauputic, ya but mixing warty with hoary is asken for truble09:24
thoreauputiczenrox: yes09:24
zenroxhyphen, wine progam.exe09:25
=== michael [~info@196.25.192.198] has joined #ubuntu
hyphenfrom any directory?09:25
zenroxin the cdrom dir09:25
membreya_bryan: you need to give it a mount point09:25
hyphenhow do i get there?  it doesn't have a letter assigned?09:25
=== techn9ne [~jeremy@S0106000f66ddc57e.vc.shawcable.net] has left #ubuntu []
thoreauputichyphen: else you would need the full path to the .exe09:25
tokoloshii assume warty and  hoary are 2 versions of ubuntu?09:25
hyphen[sorry about the newbish question] 09:25
_bryanok09:26
zenroxhyphen,  its ok09:26
_bryanso, a mount point would be?09:26
thoreauputichyphen: hey, that's what the channel is here for09:26
hyphen;)09:26
zenroxand some theratics09:26
=== egli [~egli@gate.wyona.com] has joined #ubuntu
hyphenso what's the path to my cdroms?09:26
tokoloshi_bryan, man mount     ( thats disgusting, thats why i learned the manpage for mount )09:27
membreya_bryan: /mnt/(second harddrive) ..you will need to create a directory09:27
zenroxerr /media09:27
hyphenooh09:27
zenroxhyphen, /media09:27
=== tokoloshi is now known as pro
hyphensweet, thanks guys09:27
zenroxcdrom1 and 2 etccc09:27
thoreauputiczenrox: theratics? theatrics? ?09:27
zenroxtheatrics09:27
michaelHi ! can someone help me? i del. the ubuntu HDD but now xp does not start up GRUB loading Error 22 is the message!09:27
zenroxi think09:27
thoreauputicah I guessed corectly, as my French teacher used to say ... :)09:28
zenroxmichael,  reboot using the winxp cdrom and tell it to fix mbr09:28
promichael,  get the windows disk and fdisk /mbr09:28
azriel0184if you only have XP on the system, boot the install cd, go to a recovery shell and type "fixmbr"09:28
zenroxazriel0184,  thats it right thare09:28
proand michael, you took ubuntu off and want to run XP and you ask here for help? traitor09:29
michaelthanks a lot !! try it now !!! Michael09:29
=== Quazion [~quazion@bsm-c-5628.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu
zenroxlol09:29
hyphenargg09:29
=== johns_ [~john@decande.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu
hyphenthis is such a pain, wine says that maya 6.0 works, but it doesn't even run the setup properly09:29
=== thoreauputic runs michael out of town on a rail
zenroxhehehehehheheheh09:29
hyphenit doesn't even run it at all09:29
zenroxhyphen,  google it time maya 6.0 +linux09:30
_bryanso the drive i want to mount has lots of important stuff on it, it's probably ntfs, so when i mount it as a ext3 am i going to loose all my data?09:30
hyphenthats what i've been doing09:30
crimsun_bryan: you can't mount ntfs as ext309:30
hypheni just keep finding articles on maya working with redhat and fedora09:30
=== michael [~info@196.25.192.198] has left #ubuntu []
membreya_bryan: it's PROBABLY NTFS?09:31
zenroxread what thay are doing some of that will work execpt the rpm stuff09:31
membreyahow can you not know ?09:31
=== Quarupt [~Quarupt@c-67-170-1-214.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== hayden [~hayden@203-219-130-10-qld.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
_bryanok 'it is ntfs'09:31
_bryanbetter?09:31
membreya_bryan: in my fstab file I have /dev/sda1       /media/temp    ntfs    umask=0222      0       009:31
hyphenthat's what it's all about, rpms [whatever those are] .  i guess alias made a version for linux, but it only really works with redhat09:31
=== johns^ [~john@decande.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu
hyphenand fedora09:32
crimsun_bryan: I'm not sure why you'd try to mount a ntfs partition as any filesystem type other than ntfs...09:32
thoreauputic_bryan: membreya is a self-confessed sociopath - humour him ;-)09:32
zenroxhyphen,  you might try to compile the code your self09:32
hyphenthe wine source?09:32
membreyaand you're a glorified bum..what's your point thoreauputic09:32
zenroxhyphen,  why not09:32
hyphenbecause im a total newb, lol09:32
=== stuNNed_ [~stuNNed@adsl-068-209-149-165.sip.msy.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu
zenroxlol09:32
thoreauputicmembreya: ah, I've been promoted!09:33
_bryanok, sorry, i read the man wrong, i thought i could only mount ext2, ext3 and xfs09:33
_bryanmy bad09:33
membreyayes thoreauputic ..you've been problems from bum to glorified bum :) you're almost human now09:33
zenroxmembreya,  ya your the uperclass bum09:34
membreyaerm09:34
=== kuru_ [~elzubeir@213.132.47.98] has joined #ubuntu
membreyaproblems = promoted09:34
thoreauputicmembreya: oh, no! Anything but that!09:34
membreyadamnit..stop multitasking Adam09:34
=== aspro [~geoff@dsl-203-113-242-207.TAS.netspace.net.au] has joined #ubuntu
kuru_someone helped me with this before and i can't seem to remember how it worked and can't get it to work again.. I can't seem to be able to burn cd's09:34
kuru_thoreauputic: i think you were there ;)09:34
=== mvo [~egon@ip181.135.1511I-CUD12K-01.ish.de] has joined #ubuntu
=== johns__ [~john@decande.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu
membreyazenrox: if you choose to insult me ...do it properly.. it's "you're the upperclass bum" ...u09:35
kuru_I remember it had something to do with -dev=0,0,0 since I have a cdrw and a dvd drive.. both my hdd's are scsi's but my cdrw and dvd's are atapi09:35
zenroxmembreya, ill try to rember that09:35
=== johns___ [~john@decande.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu
raggedgentlemancrimsun, thank you so much09:35
=== johnnybezak [~johnnybez@203-173-46-207.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu
membreya:)09:35
thoreauputiczenrox: we need a grammar bot - membreya wil do nicely :)09:35
raggedgentlemancrimsun, it freekin works09:35
zenroxthoreauputic,  i agreee09:36
membreya:P09:36
membreyapeople at work call me robot..so why not :(09:36
=== G2 [~ghenry@193.195.148.66] has joined #ubuntu
zenroxhahahahahahhaha09:36
=== thoreauputic comforts membreya "There there, we're here for you..."
kuru_when I do 'cdrecord dev=ATAPI -scanbus' I get 0,0,0     0) 'HL-DT-ST' 'DVD-ROM GDR8162B' '0015' Removable CD-ROM09:36
poxymox kuru_: Your dev-ID: cdrecord --scanbus09:36
crimsunraggedgentleman: good to hear.09:37
kuru_poxymox: eh?09:37
poxymoxnothing ... :-)09:37
zenroxcrimsun,  the ubuntu virus strikes ??09:37
crimsunaye09:37
membreyathey wanted to call me bender (the robot from futurama) but then I enlightened them to the other connotations of the word :P09:38
kuru_crimsun: i think you were the one who helped me last time?09:38
=== kuru_ promises to document it this time
=== kuru_ feels really stupid
=== kuru_ is now known as kuru
crimsunkuru_: with what, if I may ask?09:38
zenroxmembreya,  lol09:38
kurucrimsun: with burning cd's09:38
zenroxlook we are building client tell09:39
crimsunkuru: hmm, I don't remember helping anyone with cd burning, but what issues are you having?09:39
zenroxevery one has there fav ubuntu geek09:39
kurucrimsun: it keeps saying that it can't open /dev/sg* , etc.09:39
crimsunkuru: audio or data?09:40
membreyazenrox: you mean clientele?09:40
kurucrimsun: either09:40
zenroxthx agine membreya09:40
zenroxlol09:40
Benjamin_Lwill firefox 1.0.1 make it into hoary ?09:40
zenroxBenjamin_L,  probly09:40
crimsunkuru: sudo cdrecord dev=/dev/hdc foo.iso09:40
crimsunkuru: or, sudo cdrecord -audio -pad -dao dev=/dev/hdc *.wav09:41
kurucrimsun: no no no.. that's not my problem ;)09:41
crimsunkuru: the important part is that you use the correct /dev node09:41
Benjamin_Lok, we'll see. hopefully macromedia will release a 64 bit version of their flash plugin anytime soon...09:41
zenroxcrimsun,  if its /dev/sg ant that a diferent protical09:41
zenroxform apti09:41
kurumaybe that's t09:41
kuruit09:41
zenroxfrom apit09:41
membreyahopefully Benjamin_L :)09:41
kurucrimsun: how do I know the correct dev node?09:42
=== quazion_ [~quazion@bsm-c-5628.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu
crimsunkuru: you don't need to use dev=0,1,0 or anything; that's the old method. With Linux 2.6, you're supposed to use the new semantics, i.e., /dev/hdX where X is your drive letter09:42
prokuru, what do you mean the device node?09:42
=== abelli [~abelli@host-84-222-39-20.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #ubuntu
kurupro: ask crimsun ;) /dev/hd*09:43
=== lupus_am [~dennis@83.149.52.8] has joined #ubuntu
crimsunkuru: err, who's having the cd burning issue(s)?09:43
kurucrimsun: I think I remember what the problem was.. it's exactly what you have described09:44
=== kuru wishes the cd-writing howto is updated
=== cyrus-tc [~cyrus-tc@pD95D2FC4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== basse [~basse@basse.artist.blender] has joined #ubuntu
crimsunkuru: you can find out which device it is by: grep ATAPI /var/log/dmesg09:45
crimsunfor instance, on my current machine, it's hdc09:45
bassehi, the ubuntu website is a bit messy.. could somebody tell me where I could get the currently used backgrounds that come with kubuntu?09:45
danielsdoes anyone else here have a PCIE video card?  if so, would you mind grabbing http://people.ubuntu.com/~daniels/pcibustype.c, running gcc -o pcibustype pcibustype.c, then sudo ./pcibustype $(lspci -X | grep 'VGA compatible controller' | cut -f1 -d' '), and telling me what the output is?09:45
=== Burgundavia [~Burgundav@S0106000000cc07fc.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu
hyphenanother question, how do i edit my shell?09:46
hypheni guess i'm supposed to set an environment variable in the shell...just don't know how to get to it09:47
membreyaedit your shell? :|09:47
hyphen Your program might require some environment variable to be set properly in order to run successfully. In this case you need to set this environment variable in the Linux shell09:47
_bryanI keep getting "mount: /dev/hdb already mounted or /mnt/hdb busy09:48
_bryan"09:48
azriel0184VARIABLE="value"09:48
hypheni know the syntax, they give the variable to set09:48
hypheni just don't know how to put it in the linux shell09:48
_bryanbut a 'mount' doesn't show hdb being mounted09:48
azriel0184_bryan: cat /etc/mtab | grep /dev/hdb09:48
crimsun_bryan: /dev/hdb is a device, not a partition. You can only mount partitions.09:49
azriel0184ohh... right :)09:49
crimsun_bryan: in other words, mount a partition on /dev/hdb such as /dev/hdb109:49
_bryanahh09:49
azriel0184ignore me _bryan09:49
_bryanwell that makes more sense09:49
haydenwhere do xmms themes go?09:50
thoreauputichayden: ~/.xmms09:50
haydenok thanks09:50
_bryannow it says i don't have the permissions necessary to view it09:50
_bryan(it mounted)09:51
thoreauputichayden: ~.xmms/Skins in fact09:51
haydenyep09:51
haydenthanks09:51
thoreauputicbah ~/.xmms/Skins09:51
haydenlol09:51
crimsun_bryan: you need to pass umask [and possibly uid and gid]  parameters to mount09:51
_bryan:o09:51
_bryan*brain explodes*09:51
membreya    umask=0222      0       009:51
azriel0184or access it as root...09:52
=== waseem [~waseem@cpe-67-49-36-167.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
_bryanok, im going to actually go read the whole manpage this time09:52
_bryanthanks for all the help!09:52
thoreauputicmembreya: I'd be more permissive ( umask=002 )09:52
waseemhi im using a coolpix nikon 3200 digital camera, and when i connect it to my computer, it only lets me import photos and not any of the .mov files09:52
thoreauputicmembreya: but then, as a bum, I'm allowed to be permissive...09:52
waseemis there anyway i can manually import the .mov files??09:53
_bryanso to unmount i do 'umount /dev/hdb1' right?09:53
=== shock_ [~shockwave@dsl-213-023-246-051.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu
membreya:P09:53
waseemanyone here that can help me09:53
scizzo_bryan: unmount the mountpoint09:54
crimsun_bryan: no, use the mountpoint, not the partition you mounted09:54
azriel0184either way works doesnt it?09:54
_bryanseems to have worked09:54
=== pro [~pro@pro.user] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
waseemdoes anyone here know how to import everything from a usbdisk onto my computer?09:54
azriel0184except umounting the /dev will umount all mounts of the /dev09:54
haydenhow do i extract a .tar.gz in Terminal?09:54
azriel0184tar -xzf file.tar.gz09:55
johns^hayden: tar xzvf *tar.gz09:55
_bryantar zxvf file.tar.gz09:55
crimsunyes, you _can_ use the device, but that's a _bad_ idea if you have union mounts or bound mounts.09:55
membreyahayden: with tar? :)09:55
=== rhystic [~eric@CPE0004e2855e6d-CM0011ae90e354.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu
azriel0184membreya, no, with your head ;)09:55
membreya:P09:55
hyphenhow do i edit the linux shell to add a variable?09:55
azriel0184hyphen, VARIABLE_NAME="value"09:56
hyphenah09:57
azriel0184eg. MEMBREYA="aussie"09:57
waseemdoes anyone here know how to import everything onto your computer from a usb?09:57
hyphenso i can just pop that into my terminal?  or is there an actual file i need to open?09:57
azriel0184waseem, mount the usb drive?09:57
poxymoxhyphen: In Your  ~/.bashrc09:57
azriel0184hyphen, no09:57
hyphenooh09:57
azriel0184well, either way09:58
thoreauputicazriel0184: MEMBREYA="sociopath" THOREAUPUTIC="bum"09:58
Amaranthooh, ubuntu-calendar-march09:58
=== Amaranth drools for a bit
=== fsc [~lilbuntu@24.107.196.152.charter-stl.com] has joined #ubuntu
azriel0184thoreauputic, AZRIEL="awesome" ;)09:58
azriel0184or AZRIEL="humble"09:58
thoreauputicAZRIEL="modest"09:58
AmaranthAMARANTH=$DIETY09:58
membreyaazriel="self righteous"09:59
azriel0184heh09:59
=== telemaco [~telemaco@221.Red-83-34-204.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu
Amaranthactually, i think this name has something to do with a god in hindu10:00
Amarantherr, hindi10:00
=== Mayday [henrik@Anka.ORG] has joined #ubuntu
waseemazriel0184: is there a command i could type that would just automatically import everything from my camera onto my computer?10:00
azriel0184me?10:00
=== elvirolo [~elvirolo@dyn-83-156-66-109.ppp.tiscali.fr] has joined #ubuntu
azriel0184its hebrew actually10:00
elvirolohi all!10:00
Amaranthno, my name10:00
waseem...?10:00
azriel0184waseem, dont think so, but try mounting the usb device with mount, then cp /mount/point/*10:01
waseemthe problem is it lets me import all the photos i want10:01
waseembut none of the movies10:01
crimsun(don't forget the destination)10:01
azriel0184well yea...10:01
waseemok ive never mounted before since im so new to linux10:02
waseemdo you think you could walk me through it?10:02
azriel0184mount /whatever/the/usb/is /media/usb; cp /media/usb/* ./10:02
=== tranceConscious [user@217.19.75.254] has joined #ubuntu
azriel0184something like that10:02
waseemthe name of the usb?10:03
tranceConsciouswhat is the hoary distribution and where do i get it for amd64???10:03
basseso, are the background art of ubuntu downloadable anywhere? I'm doing one background and need as reference for coloring.10:03
waseemlike this /media/usbdisk/dcim/?10:03
elviroloi've got a strange prob with my hoary setup : after having chosen my DE in the login manager, an Xdialog window comes up (yeah, that ugly thing) and tells me : "Xsession: warning : unable to write to /tmp, X session may exit with an error" and then X.org just restarts ... I've (even) tried doing a chmod 777 on /tmp, and it still doesn't work ...10:03
elvirolocould anyone help me ?10:03
=== BasL [~BasL@tuxmachine.xs4all.nl] has joined #Ubuntu
thoreauputicbasse: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-calendar10:04
elvirolotranceConscious: hoary is the developement version of Ubuntu10:04
=== hyphen [~hyphen@c-24-130-176-80.we.client2.attbi.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== ultrafunk [~pd@insanity.ridge.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
=== carlos [~carlos@host217-37-231-28.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has joined #ubuntu
tranceConsciouselvirolo: where do I get it from?10:04
bassethoreauputic: sorry, I'm not actually running ubuntu myself :)10:04
elvirolotranceConscious: depends, what are you running now ?10:05
elvirolono ideas anyone ?10:05
fscis hoary updates overwriting sounds settings? i'm a duck in water10:05
membreyatranceConscious: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/hoary/array-6/hoary-install-amd64.iso10:05
thoreauputicbasse: ah.... why not? ;-)10:05
tranceConsciousthanx10:05
bassethoreauputic: well, I'm debian user.. and I see no reason to switch really.. especially when ubuntu is based on this :)10:05
membreyaubuntu Pwns10:06
thoreauputicOK basse, I'll let you off then ;-)10:06
membreyaas thoreauputic would say10:06
elvirolois there an X log I could access somewhere ?10:06
bassethoreauputic: I am contributing a background tho .. :) if I find the current ones somewhere. the "holding hands" and if there are other.10:06
membreyaelvirolo: /var/log/ Xorg.0.log10:07
membreyawithout the space between / and X :P10:07
elvirolomembreya: thx10:07
elvirolo:)10:07
thoreauputicbasse: there are a few here >> http://www.brisgeek.com/etiquette/downloads.html10:08
tranceConsciousmembreya: is that the latest hoary release??10:08
membreyatranceConscious: yes it is10:08
membreyaarray 610:08
thoreauputicbasse: but not the "brown" ones (these are pre-GIMP, I guess)10:08
tranceConsciousmembreya: Any ideas about how to make my waveterminal 192L soundcard to work?10:09
basseok.. but it's getting there.. atleast I see the poses.10:09
=== Sav [~sav@nl-157-157.bth.se] has joined #ubuntu
bassethanks.10:09
membreyano idea10:09
thoreauputicno worries10:09
bassei have gimp palette for ubuntu.. that I managed to find from wiki (man it's messy)10:09
azriel0184hey, what does does a usb drive show up as in /dev ?10:10
tranceConsciousanyone knows how to make waveterminal 192L work ?????10:10
crimsunazriel0184: as a scsi mass storage, e.g. /dev/sda110:10
tranceConsciousand how to make my usb modem work?10:10
=== johnnybezak [~johnnybez@203-173-44-131.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu
=== carlos_ [~carlos@host217-37-231-29.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has joined #ubuntu
_bryanwhat would i use for 'gid' in mounting options10:11
=== allio [~omfg@203.184.8.99] has joined #ubuntu
thoreauputic_bryan: probably 1000 or your user name10:11
elvirolostrange, nothing seems wrong in the log ...10:11
elvirolocould anyone help me?10:11
membreyajust use UID :P10:11
_bryanok10:12
membreyadon't listen to thoreauputic, he's becoming old and senile10:12
johnnybezakhey guys i'm getting an error with rhythmbox when i try to play songs it says "Could not pause playback" and "could not open resource for writing"10:12
johnnybezakanyone know what this could be10:12
thoreauputicmembreya: and humourless :)10:12
membreya:P10:12
=== saad [~saad@zeff.docisland.org] has joined #ubuntu
crimsun_bryan: getent passwd $USER|awk -F: '{ print $4 }'10:13
=== tranceConscious [user@217.19.75.254] has left #ubuntu []
crimsun_bryan: whatever the output of that ^^ is10:13
johnnybezaki knew it would be a bad idea restarting :P10:13
=== TiffOn [user@218.Red-217-126-197.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu
_bryani had my uid and umask, was just stuck on gid10:14
_bryanbeautiful10:14
_bryani got it :D10:14
_bryanfinally10:14
thoreauputiccrimsun: wow - that's a geeky way to get output you could eyeball from the 'groups' command :)10:14
thoreauputicbut looks impressive, I admit ;)10:15
crimsunthoreauputic: granted, but getent is the portable method10:15
thoreauputicOK ;-)10:15
_bryanwhat's the right way to exit out of manpages?10:15
johnnybezakq10:15
crimsun'q'10:15
membreyalol :P10:15
johnnybezakintuitive hey10:15
johnnybezak:P10:15
thoreauputicwatch your 'p's and 'q's .....10:16
thoreauputicsorry... lame10:16
_bryannow i can stop ctrl-z'n out of them10:16
johnnybezakhehe certainly was10:16
elvirolostrange, my X server starts up, but i just doesn't load any DE ... i've looked thorouly through the log, and i still can't find the reason why...10:16
=== thoreauputic decides to keep his day job...
membreyahttp://www.wordorigins.org/wordorp.htm#mind%20your%20p's%20&10:17
membreyathere you go thoreauputic :)10:17
thoreauputiclooking :)10:17
Quaruptwhen running kubunti, will i still get a system tray icon when updates are availible?10:17
QuaruptKubuntu*10:17
=== ultrafunk [~pd@eth779.vic.adsl.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== BockBilbo [~Bock@85.84.43.70] has joined #ubuntu
=== abelli [~abelli@host-84-222-39-20.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #ubuntu
_bryanmmmmmm10:20
_bryanmusic10:20
_bryanfinally10:20
thoreauputicmembreya: very informative :)10:20
_bryanthanks to all10:20
membreyathoreauputic: I love that site :)10:20
membreyaetymology always interests me :)10:20
_bryanyou guys must get a million thanks a day10:20
thoreauputicmembreya: yeah, I can see one could spend much time browsing it10:20
_bryan(or gals)10:21
thoreauputic_bryan: nah, mostly we get abused by people like membreya10:21
membreya:P10:21
_bryanso, am i stuck in 1024x786 if there's no linux drivers for my video?10:22
membreyathoreauputic: another good site is http://www.panikon.com/phurba/alteng/10:22
_bryaneverything is onboard via Asus P4R800-VM10:23
_bryanATI Radeon 9100 IGP10:23
=== Jergosh_S [~jergosh@l-net4.pai.net.pl] has joined #ubuntu
crimsun_bryan: hoary has a version of the ATI drivers that support hardware accelerated 3D10:25
crimsunerr, apologies.10:25
crimsunthe release notes say only 2D support10:25
crimsunhttp://www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_8.10.19.html10:26
=== f00f_bug [~gee@pool-68-238-155-166.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== hypatia [~mary@adsl-66-203.swiftdsl.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
=== Corvus [Corvus@85.86.233.133] has joined #ubuntu
f00f_bugi seem to be having troubles with xmms... i cant seem to play any files, its says the sound card is blocked. the music player packaged with ubuntu works fine.. i was wondering if anyone had any suggestions10:32
=== michael [~info@196.25.192.198] has joined #ubuntu
crimsunf00f_bug: change the output plugin to esound10:32
f00f_bugcrimsun: oh my, i could have swore i tried that! :] 10:33
thoreauputichypatia: someone with your nick comes here from Canada - travelling, or different person?10:33
bassef00f_bug: !10:33
=== quazion__ [~quazion@bsm-c-5628.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu
=== Sionide [~dragon@cpc4-hem12-6-0-cust227.lutn.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== sator [~sator@i73072.upc-i.chello.nl] has joined #ubuntu
hypatiathoreauputic: different person. Are you talking about hypa7ia?10:34
thoreauputicah - I see10:34
=== max [~max@213.223.74.235] has joined #ubuntu
hypatiathoreauputic: I've had this nick registered on freenode since 99 or so.10:35
thoreauputicyes, hypa7ia indeed10:35
thoreauputicOK10:35
=== marcin_ant [~marcin@www.e-dev.tele2.pl] has joined #ubuntu
thoreauputic:)10:35
hypatiaI don't think I've been here at the same time as hypa7ia, but people mention her/him :)10:35
thoreauputichypatia: her10:36
danielsthere can only be one10:36
=== OFBN [~OmbmtiQn@85.99.185.219] has joined #ubuntu
hypatiaI would guess that, but some people occasionally refer to me as "him" as well, so I thought there was an outside possibility of there being a male version of this nick :)10:36
=== waseem [~waseem@cpe-67-49-36-167.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
waseemwhat is the bash command to delete a file/directory?10:37
hypatiadaniels: who is the fastest draw on nickserv kill, that's the question...10:37
thoreauputichypatia: and neither of you are from Alexandria :)10:37
hypatiawaseem: rm10:37
waseemthanks hypatia10:37
hypatiawaseem: "rm -rf [directory name] " to delete a non-empty directory, but make sure you get [directory name]  right ;)10:38
hypatiathoreauputic: first one there wins.10:38
=== donncha|home is now known as donncha
=== AngryClip [~kvirc@jriley1984.plus.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== tranceConscious [user@217.19.75.254] has joined #ubuntu
waseemhypatia: it does not prompt to me answer whether or not i am sure i want to remove a directory, but it does when i want to remove a file10:39
waseemany reason for this?10:39
membreyahypatia isn't it rm -Rf ?10:39
waseem-rf worked for me10:40
tranceConscioushow do i upgrade warty to hoary with synaptic???10:40
=== _bryan is now known as lucid
membreyatranceConscious: edit your /etc/apt/sources.lst and make all refs to warty > hoary10:41
hypatiamembreya: -r and -R both mean "recursive"10:41
thoreauputicwaseem: possibly you have an alias for rm that makes it rm -i10:42
membreyaforce of habit to use -R :P10:42
=== helloyo [~alex@c211-30-78-117.belrs2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
thoreauputicwaseem: type ` alias` to see10:42
waseemutic waseem: type ` alias` to see10:42
waseemalias cp='cp -i'10:42
waseemalias ls='ls --color=auto'10:42
waseemalias mv='mv -i'10:42
waseemalias rm='rm -i'10:42
membreyathere u go :)10:42
membreyathey're all interactive :)10:43
waseemhmm so what does it mean if i have an alias of rm -i10:43
tranceConsciousmembreya: I 've had this question a long time now. Does that upgrade the kernel as well or do I have to do the kernel upgrade manually???10:43
waseemlike what made it an alias10:43
=== helloyoyo [~alex@c211-30-78-117.belrs2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
=== geeky_bodhi [~bodhi@61.16.150.118] has joined #ubuntu
thoreauputicwaseem: -i means it asks each time10:43
hypatiatranceConscious: In synaptics preferences, edit any of the http://...ubuntu.com lines that have warty in them10:43
waseembut it didnt ask when i wanted to delete the directory10:43
hypatiatranceConscious: change all occurences of 'warty' to 'hoary'10:43
hypatiatranceConscious: that's the same as editing /etc/apt/sources.list directly.10:44
thoreauputicwaseem: no, because you used -rf and f "forces" it10:44
waseemoh ok10:44
waseemthanks10:44
thoreauputicwaseem: -rf should be used with care10:44
thoreauputicfor obvious reasons10:44
membreyarm -rf / :P10:45
thoreauputicmembreya: don't even write it - someone might *do* it!10:45
membreya:(10:45
Myrttiindeed10:46
=== helloyo [~alex@c211-30-78-117.belrs2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
=== thoreauputic gives membreya six of the best
=== helloyoyo is now known as helloyo
Myrtti/me slaps membreya around a bit with a good old Win98 install floppy pack10:46
waseemmembreya: i typed in rm -rf / and everythings screwing up10:46
tranceConsciousmembreya: I 've had this question a long time now. Does that upgrade the kernel as well or do I have to do the kernel upgrade manually???10:46
tranceConsciousmembreya: I 've had this question a long time now. Does that upgrade the kernel as well or do I have to do the kernel upgrade manually???10:46
waseemoh my god10:46
waseemwhats happening10:46
hypatia[danger]  "rm -rf ." and "rm -rf ~" are the more common lethal ones when you're not logged in as root...10:46
thoreauputicheh... I guess most people wouldn't even know what "six of the best" means any more10:46
membreyanope :P10:47
helloyoi sure don't10:47
Myrttiwaseem: for real?10:47
hypatiatranceConscious: if you've got linux-ARCH (eg linux-686, linux-k7, linux-powerpc) installed, the kernel will upgrade automatically.10:47
waseemno10:47
Myrttiphew10:47
waseembut it would suck if i really did it, huh10:47
thoreauputicwaseem: I've seen it happen...10:47
membreyacan't find it in my etymology pages thoreauputic :P10:47
Myrttithoreauputic: me too10:47
=== shock_ is now known as gtnw|shock
waseemthat would really suck10:47
=== gtnw|shock is now known as shock
thoreauputicmembreya: schoolmasters used to say it - six cuts of the cane10:48
tranceConscioushypatia: how do i check which linux-ARCH I 've got???10:48
waseemif you have everything backed up it wouldnt be too bad because installing ubuntu isnt very hard10:48
membreyaouch :P10:48
thoreauputicuname -m10:48
Myrttia channel where I was on as a op had a rule that everyone that suggested doing rm -rf / to a newbie was banned for two weeks10:48
=== krischan [~krischan@p5090A8F4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu
thoreauputictranceConscious: uname -m was for you10:48
waseemthis kind of reminds me, have any of you heard that aol_call that tells people over the phone to type something into the command line10:48
waseemthat deletes everything on their computer10:49
=== clparker [~clparker@64.106.85.7] has joined #ubuntu
membreyatranceConscious: cat /proc/version :)10:49
tranceConsciousi68610:49
hypatiaMyrtti: It'd be a violation of the Ubuntu community code of conduct I'd think (or at least, it doesn't sound considerate to me!)10:49
tranceConsciousdoes that mean that when I change my sources and do the upgrade the kernel will upgrade automatically?10:49
thoreauputictranceConscious: well, that's your answer10:49
hypatiatranceConscious: check if you've got the linux-686 package installed.10:50
hypatiatranceConscious: if so, yes. if not, install it and it will be upgraded in future.10:50
=== AndyFitz [~andy@220-245-97-227-qld-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
=== hyphen [~hyphen@c-24-130-176-80.we.client2.attbi.com] has joined #ubuntu
waseemis there any way to manually stop a command?10:50
thoreauputicwaseem: ctrl -C10:50
membreyawaseem: ctrl_c10:50
waseemlike if i did accidently type in rm -rf /10:50
waseemok10:50
membreya:P10:50
=== ultrafunk [~pd@eth779.vic.adsl.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu
membreya:|10:50
membreyawhat have I done? :|10:50
membreyalol10:50
membreyahmmmm cat /proc/version gives gcc version 3.3.5 yet gcc -v gives gcc version 3.4.410:51
thoreauputicwaseem: by the time you typed that, half your /etc/dir would be gone, probably10:51
waseemhaha ya...but its worth a shot i guess10:51
hyphenomg10:51
hyphenwine is giving me a headache10:52
membreyahyphen: don't drink so much then10:52
membreyaor drink it with a glass of water on the side10:52
thoreauputicwaseem: yes, and I've seen a debian woody install resurrected from exactly that scenario10:52
hyphenhaha10:52
=== krischan [~krischan@p5090A8F4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== mirak [~mirak@AAubervilliers-152-1-4-170.w82-121.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu
hyphencant get this damn thing to work properly10:52
hyphenits making me sad in the pants10:52
waseemive grown to love linux.10:52
waseembut i kinda hate it at the same time...10:53
membreyamwuahaha another foolish convertee10:53
waseembecause a lot of the hardware i have doesnt work10:53
membreyawaseem: why because it makes your head work ?10:53
waseemunless i type billions of commands10:53
=== basse [~basse@basse.artist.blender] has left #ubuntu []
Myrttihypatia: perhaps so, but we didn't want people shouting out "good" advices like that. Other good advices that deserved the giver to be banned were "alt+f4", "which one won, /quit or /part?", "goatse", "tubgirl" and etc.10:53
waseemmembreya: ya windows slowly makes everyone dumber and dumber10:53
waseemits a big chance10:53
waseemchange*10:53
Myrttiperhaps not for weeks, but for some time10:53
waseembut some things are simply not compatible with linux10:53
membreyahmmm I don't think linux itself has billions and billions of lines of code10:53
Myrttilinux is the kernel, n'est pas?10:54
hypatiaMyrtti: Um, I don't what you're trying to tell me.10:54
hypatiaMyrtti: I'm not saying the banning would be against the code of conduct (although it might be).10:54
waseemhaha welll when you first see linux and someone working with it, you start to think in the billions range10:54
tranceConsciousI want to set up my ubuntu here in the office as a fileserver for my windows network. how do I create windows shares??? (I have all packages that say samba in synaptic)10:54
membreyawow Myrtti ...www.goatse.cx is a site I haven't heard in ages :P10:54
hypatiaMyrtti: I'm saying that giving dumb/evil advice like "rm -rf /" would be!10:54
Myrttiyes10:54
tranceConsciousand something else, is there a gui for configuring samba in x???10:55
hypheni got another question10:55
Myrttiyet, some people seem to be childish enough to play around with something like that :->10:55
membreyatranceConscious: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#sambaserver10:55
membreyaother thing you can use to admin it is webmin10:55
hypheneverytime i reboot, the nameservers i add get deleted10:55
=== wavefunction [~macaiba@200164053093.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu
hyphenhow do i get them to stay?10:55
waseemthe thing with linux is everything starts from scratch10:55
thoreauputictranceConscious: loats of info on http://ubuntuguide.org10:55
waseemyou need to isntall every driver10:55
helloyoi have a fresh warty warthog install, and openoffice doesn't work (setup.bin not found)10:55
waseemi still havent gotten my webcam and ipod to work10:56
thoreauputicwaseem: no you don't!10:56
membreyawaseem: good luck with your webcam :P10:56
waseemand plugins for movies in browsers are external10:56
waseemthey dont play in the browser10:56
Hannes_iPod is quite easy10:56
thoreauputicwaseem: I haven't needed to install *any* drivers on this machine10:56
waseemhannes: would you mind help me set it up?10:56
azriel0184i was at school once and we were setting up linux boxes and the teacher told me to remove linux from it and i thought right... "rm -rf /"10:56
azriel0184its interesting to watch10:57
Hannes_why to play media in a browser? It's ment to browse web pages, or?10:57
asproipod with usb cord is a sinch, plug it in then modify gtkpod to see the auto-mounted location10:57
waseemthoreauputic: the only thing that was simple was connecting my digital camera to my computer and importing photos10:57
waseemother than that its difficult10:57
azriel0184another good one is "rm -rfv /" [warning: dont do this]  :)10:57
=== stevehoad [~sh@212.110.7.80] has joined #ubuntu
=== stefanomasini [~stefano@host94-142.pool80117.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu
Hannes_or just "rm -rf *" in /10:58
thoreauputicazriel0184: so you can watch the disaster unfold before your eyes?10:58
waseemaspro: i downloaded gtkpod, and connected my ipod, but the system did not recognize it10:58
waseemim gonna work with it tomorrow though10:58
azriel0184thoreauputic, why not?10:58
asprousb cord?10:58
asproor firewire10:58
waseemusb10:58
asprofirewire takes some hassle10:58
membreyawaseem: that will teach you to be a yuppie with an iPod :P10:58
waseemmembreya: haha i know but i love the thing10:58
waseemi did not get it because everyone else got one10:58
waseemwell at least i like to believe that10:58
thoreauputicazriel0184: interesting in a twisted kind of way, yeah ... hehe10:58
asproihave gotten every one (excl. photo) since gen 210:59
stefanomasiniI just installed ubuntu. it didn't ask for a root password. how can I log in as root?10:59
azriel0184well i had the computer and some free time... so why not...10:59
Hannes_stefanomasini: sudo10:59
=== stevehoad [~sh@212.110.7.80] has left #ubuntu []
thoreauputicstefanomasini: you don't - you use sudo10:59
azriel0184i killed it half way through.... NOTHING worked... :P10:59
stefanomasiniouch10:59
azriel0184/bin is the first thing to go...10:59
thoreauputicstefanomasini: with your user password10:59
stefanomasinii didnt' try that...10:59
Hannes_thoreauputic: 1159.22 < Hannes_> stefanomasini: sudo10:59
stefanomasinithanks!10:59
waseemwhen i set up my root password i just typed in passwd11:00
waseemand then said su11:00
membreyahmmm has anyone here gotten qtparted working?11:00
thoreauputicHannes_: yes, I'm a slow typist - your point?11:00
waseemhahah11:01
=== topyli [~juha@dsl-hkigw3pa5.dial.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu
=== Einzelganger [~Einzelgan@cust.92.248.adsl.cistron.nl] has joined #ubuntu
Hannes_thoreauputic: no, just tought you don't read anything11:01
=== xx [~Miranda@198.36.86.68] has joined #ubuntu
thoreauputicHannes_: no, I'm just not a touch typist11:02
thoreauputicHannes_: while you were typing I was looking down11:02
Myrttinitpickers11:02
Myrttimove on11:02
waseemhaha wow an argument over something so little11:02
topyliheh11:02
thoreauputichmm... I wasn't arguing - merely explaining...11:03
topylithis really is a premium channel for technical discussion :)11:03
=== stefanomasini [~stefano@host94-142.pool80117.interbusiness.it] has left #ubuntu []
YankDownUnderIs beer technical?11:03
waseemok heres a stupid question, maybe one of you could answer it. I want to add nicotine to the panel, but i cant locate the file11:03
thoreauputiccan be...11:03
waseemi usually just type it in the command line11:03
Myrttitopyli: yes, quite good one. I've seen worse, lot worse. And you've probably tried those11:03
Myrttiif I guess correctly11:04
waseemany ideas on how i can add it to the panel?11:04
=== rexiboy [~rex@203-217-84-134.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu
topyliMyrtti: i'm only kidding :)11:04
=== seb128 [~seb128@ANancy-151-1-34-198.w83-196.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu
Myrttitopyli: perhaps, but there is a teeny weeny bit of truth in that11:04
=== mumak [~jml@ppp111-55.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu
helloyocould some-one help me with my fresh 4.10 install? openoffice won't work11:05
Myrttino newbie bashing here11:05
thoreauputicMyrtti: well, only occasionally, anyway ;-)11:05
mirakwhy does ubuntu ppc on macintosh tries to install quik boot loader instead of Yaboot ?11:06
topyliMyrtti: flames do burst on the best of channels and newsgroups and mailing lists, even #ubuntu11:06
topylinatural11:06
Myrttitopyli: and some channels are nothing but flamebaits11:06
Myrttitry IRCNets #linux.fi11:06
Jergosh_SSuppose I'm writing a Linux basics course for teachers and I want to include screenshots from Ubuntu (login screen etc), since I recommend it. Do I have ask for permission (and whom)?11:06
Myrttifirst class newbie bashing11:06
=== rexiboy [~rex@203-217-84-134.dyn.iinet.net.au] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
=== thor [~thor@213.167.98.86] has joined #ubuntu
azriel0184Myrtti, sorry, but you will always get newbie bashing11:06
thoreauputichelloyo: have you tried typing, in  a terminal  ` oowriter` ?11:07
topyliMyrtti: i'm on #linux.fi right now. it doesn't have much to do with linux11:07
azriel0184and what sort of support do ou get if you know what you rar doing?11:07
helloyothoreauputic, yep, it says setup.bin cannot be found, and it isn't there11:07
thoreauputichmmm11:07
helloyoremove it, and download it?11:08
thoreauputichelloyo: same if you type ` openoffice` ?11:08
=== zeedo [~zeedo@www.bsrf.org.uk] has joined #ubuntu
Myrttiwell, as always, your mileage may vary11:08
=== maclavellus [~maclavell@Feanor.CE.UniPR.IT] has joined #ubuntu
helloyothoreauputic, yeah11:09
waseemok I have a  TI-89 Titanium, how do i transfer programs onto the calculator using the TI connect program?11:09
topyliMyrtti: #linux.fi is a bunch of old friends chatting away. if you bother them with a linux question, they will make an example out of you :)11:09
thoreauputichelloyo: try ` sudo dpkg-reconfigure openoffice.org `11:09
helloyothoreauputic, still the same11:10
waseemdoes anyone here use the Texas Instruments calculators?11:10
Myrttitopyli: I'd leave that smiley off, or change it to :-/11:10
helloyoit only updated the dictionary11:10
=== HrdwrBoB [~matt@bob.is.teh.admin.at.vicnet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu
thoreauputichelloyo: hmm ... sudo apt-get install --reinstall openoffice.org11:11
Myrttiwell, it's a good thing I've found other ways of asking assistance with my computer problems11:11
thoreauputichelloyo: worth a shot..11:11
topyliooh! there's an interesting note in the release notes for gnome-games 2.10: in iagno, "the AI player no longer cheats". and how i've wondered about my poor success ;)11:11
helloyothoreauputic, yeah, will that download it?11:12
thoreauputichelloyo: no, just reinstall it from cache11:12
=== wavefunction [~macaiba@200164053093.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu
Myrttiok, time to go to crocery store11:12
thoreauputicunless you've wiped the cache of course...11:13
Myrttita-ta, folks11:13
=== cholo [~cholo@host231.201-252-155.telecom.net.ar] has joined #ubuntu
thoreauputicbye Myrtti11:13
topyliMyrtti: yeah, forget #linux.fi unless you joined the channel two years ago or something. its name is deceiving, it has (d)evolved into something completely different11:13
=== Ivy6Quaff [~Sir@c906a0a6.virtua.com.br] has joined #ubuntu
waseemHi, Im using a TI-89 Titanium, what program do I use to transfer programs onto the calculator? Should I just download the TI connect software for mac?11:14
=== dand [~dand@gw.datagroup.ro] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
=== eric [~eric@82.127.35.77] has joined #ubuntu
ericlu all11:15
=== xx [~Miranda@198.36.86.68] has left #ubuntu []
airoxhi eric11:17
azriel0184waseem, you might be able to force it to run on linux... dunno though11:17
ericthey debian is not ubuntu11:17
erici just want to use linux .. can i without fighting ?11:17
aspro....11:18
airoxwaseem: http://tilp.info/ check that site out11:18
airox?11:18
thoreauputiceric: you tried #debian, I'm guessing...11:18
eric:)11:18
topylieric: using linux is easier if you don't fight it :)11:18
thoreauputiceric: you won't have to fight here11:18
=== wavefunction [~macaiba@200164053093.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu
=== airox punches eric
ericok so i'll stay here11:18
=== topyli gives eric a potion of extra healing
thoreauputiceric: if you're using ubuntu, yes, welcome11:19
=== BasL [~BasL@tuxmachine.xs4all.nl] has joined #Ubuntu
=== tranceConscious [user@217.19.75.254] has left #ubuntu []
=== AndyFitz [~andy@220-245-97-227-qld-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has left #ubuntu []
waseemok well i downloaded the mac program onto my computer11:20
waseemnow how do i force it to work?11:20
airox...11:20
thoreauputicwaseem: give it a stern lecture?11:20
topyliwaseem: is it source?11:20
waseemtopyli: .dmg file11:21
airoxwaseem: http://www.ticalc.org/pub/unix/11:21
waseemthanks11:21
topyliwaseem: you need source, mac binaries won't work11:21
waseemairox: there are a bunch of files, but no TI connect software11:22
waseemdo you know where i can get that11:22
erici think a lot of person install debian just to say " i use debian " not really to use it . so the question is what are they doing on debian. do they run programs ? :))11:23
airoxwaseem: http://tilp.info/about.html11:23
membreyaeric: I run ubuntu because I prefer my machine to be stable :) ...and I have no real need for windows because I don't play most of the games11:23
ericthey just wach the screen and say " yes it's debian"11:23
airoxeric: I guess they run servers then ?11:23
airox:)11:24
ericmaybe :)11:24
helloyohow do i change the resolution of gdm?11:24
airoxhelloyo: gdm or X ?11:24
topylieric: there are lots of reasons to run debian. for example, it's the best distribution. :) ubuntu is just a nicer way to run up-to-date debian without the worries of unstable11:24
=== seb128_ [~seb128@ANancy-151-1-29-88.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu
ericmembreya : there is a lot of games on linux platform too11:24
membreyahelloyo: System > Preferences > Screen resolution11:24
helloyomembreya, yeah, its fine in gnome, but gdm is set too high11:24
membreyaeric: I like the little mindless games that linux has :)11:25
membreyaedit your xorg.conf then ?11:25
thoreauputicmembreya: that makes sense...11:25
erici love Enemy territory i play it every nite11:25
membreyashush thoreauputic :)11:25
ericthe best free online game i think11:25
thoreauputicmembreya: ;-)11:25
topylieric: ET is free?11:26
airoxtopyli: yep11:26
erici don't know wich licence they use11:27
topylihmm. i had no idea :)11:27
ericbut you can download and play for free11:27
ericbut it's not the right channel to talk about enemy territory :)11:27
ericjust shut up11:27
topyliheh11:28
waseemairox: http://tilp.info/downloads.html there are two files i can download from11:28
waseemwhcih one should i choose?11:28
=== ceu [~ruut@194-185-220-76.f4.ngi.it] has joined #ubuntu
=== doko [~doko___@dsl-084-059-013-034.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu
airoxwaseem: I guess both.11:28
waseemhow do i open the .tar.gz files?11:28
azriel0184waseem, either with file-roller or tar -xzf11:29
=== craigaa [~craigaa@nngy-165-183-111.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu
=== mameluke [~bo@84-72-14-200.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #ubuntu
waseemwaseem@waseem:~/Desktop$ ./configure tilp-6.7711:32
waseembash: ./configure: No such file or directory11:32
=== clparker [~clparker@64.106.85.7] has joined #ubuntu
waseemi dont understand, it should be finding tilp-6.7711:33
thoreauputicwaseem: you need to cd to the directory created by the untarring11:33
goldfish_waseem: Did it download to the Desktop directory?11:33
goldfish_yes11:33
waseemyes11:33
goldfish_what he said11:33
waseemits in the Desktop11:33
waseemwaseem@waseem:~/Desktop$ ls11:33
waseem2002_mbs.pdf  javambs82802_17390.zip  tilp-6.7711:33
waseemJavaMBS       tilp-1.tar.gz           tilp.tar.gz11:33
waseemwaseem@waseem:~/Desktop$11:33
goldfish_yah, ignore that11:33
goldfish_cd tilp-6.7711:33
=== cholo [~cholo@host231.201-252-155.telecom.net.ar] has left #ubuntu []
waseemoh ok thanks goldfish11:34
ceucan I use firefox 1.0.1 from hoary on warty?11:34
goldfish_waseem: thoreauputic's suggestion :)11:34
waseemhaha i mean, thanks toreauputic11:34
ceuwarty-backports doesn't include the latest firefox version :-(11:34
thoreauputicwaseem: team effort ;)11:34
waseemright.11:35
jdubceu: you're better off upgrading to hoary11:35
jdubceu: but if you've used backports on warty, then you're better off installing from scratch11:35
ericceu : download the firefox web site version11:35
airoxYeah, just download the binary from mozilla.or11:35
airoxg11:35
waseem2. Type `make' to compile the package.11:35
waseemwaseem@waseem:~/Desktop/tilp-6.77$ make11:35
waseemmake: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.11:35
waseemwhat should i target?11:36
thoreauputicceu: unless you are in the habit of clicking on "update your paypal details!" links, you probably don't need the latest security update for firefox11:36
airoxheheh thoreauputic11:36
airoxsecunia test ? :)11:36
ceuthoreauputic: I don't like non having the latest security fix :-)11:37
waseemanyone know what i should type in?11:37
=== stvn [~sottens@pike.pepperfish.net] has joined #ubuntu
thoreauputicwaseem: did ./configure run?11:37
waseemya its done11:37
ceuis it difficult to obtain a deb package from firefox sources?11:37
ceuor it's already debianized?11:38
ericyou dot not have to debianized it11:38
thoreauputicwaseem: did you read the README or INSTALL files in the package? Might be a different installation command...11:38
ericjust download the binary it will run perfectly11:38
waseem  2. Type `make' to compile the package.11:38
waseemthats what it says11:38
waseemand i did that11:38
=== stevehoad [~sh@212.110.7.80] has joined #ubuntu
thoreauputicodd.. it can't find a makefile11:39
ericwe're talking about firefox not internet explorer11:39
waseemah so i guess it wont install then?11:39
waseemwait11:39
waseemthere is a Makefile.am11:39
waseemand a Makefile.in11:39
thoreauputicwaseem: have you installed build-essential?11:40
waseemnot that i know of11:40
waseemhow do i do that11:40
thoreauputicwaseem: sudo apt-get install build-essential11:40
=== Tomcat_ [Tomcat@p54A1EA76.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu
thoreauputicwaseem: do it11:40
thoreauputicwaseem: gives you a sane build environment11:41
waseemits already been installed11:41
thoreauputichmm11:41
waseemwait11:42
waseemdo i need to be root?11:42
=== craigaa [~craigaa@nngy-165-183-111.telkomadsl.co.za] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
waseemto type make?11:42
thoreauputicno11:42
waseemType "make", "make install" (requires the root privileges).11:42
waseemthats in the readme11:42
waseemnot in the install file though11:42
thoreauputicfor make install you need root privileges, but not to compile (make)11:42
=== netpuppy [~mark@x1-6-00-00-24-c3-7a-dc.k497.webspeed.dk] has joined #ubuntu
waseemoh ok11:42
=== stevehoad [~sh@212.110.7.80] has left #ubuntu []
waseemso any ideas on what i cand o?11:43
waseemdo*11:43
thoreauputicwaseem: ./configure gave no errors?11:43
waseemlet me read over it11:43
=== stevehoad [~sh@212.110.7.80] has joined #ubuntu
thoreauputicthere should be a config.log or something there11:43
=== stevehoad [~sh@212.110.7.80] has left #ubuntu []
waseemNo package 'ticables' found11:44
waseemthat is the only thing that i found that seemed weird11:44
waseembut i dont think that should have an affect on the installation11:44
thoreauputicwaseem: and it didn't end with "exiting with error 2 " or something similar?11:44
=== njan [~james@62-249-201-66.adsl.entanet.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu
waseemthoreaputic: no11:45
=== apokryphos7 [~apokrypho@host-84-9-33-156.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu
thoreauputicwaseem: well, I don't know why it hasn't found a usable makefile... odd indeed11:46
waseemwell, maybe this might be the problem11:46
waseemthere were two files i needed to download11:46
waseemi downloaded them both11:46
waseembut i didnt untar the other one11:46
waseemdo i need to do that?11:47
thoreauputicwaseem: possibly you are doing it in the wrong order, if this one depends on the other (guessing)11:47
waseemhmm well i tried to untar the other one11:48
waseemno errors11:48
=== _ca [~ca@83.72.201.52.ip.tele2adsl.dk] has joined #ubuntu
waseembut there is no new folder on the Desktop11:48
thoreauputicwaseem: from what you said, you don't yet have an actual Makefile11:48
=== apokryphos77 [~apokrypho@host-84-9-33-174.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu
waseemit has a Makefile.am and a Makefile.in11:49
thoreauputicwaseem: is there a mess of files instead?11:49
=== lucas_ [lucas@abo-41-5-68.ech.modulonet.fr] has joined #ubuntu
waseemno11:49
=== carlos_ [~carlos@host217-37-231-20.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has joined #ubuntu
thoreauputicwaseem: yes but not the actual makefile11:49
waseemoh11:49
thoreauputicwaseem: are ther any instructions on the website?11:49
waseemhttp://tilp.info/downloads.html11:50
waseemnot any that i found11:50
thoreauputicwaseem: otherwise it's time to hone your g00gle Sk1LLz11:50
=== azriel0184 [~azriel018@dialup-130.31.221.203.acc12-dryb-mel.comindico.com.au] has left #ubuntu ["http://www.openoxide.net/"]
waseemagh ok11:51
waseemso should i search for a makefile?11:51
thoreauputicno11:51
waseemor the program?11:51
thoreauputicsearch for other people who have tried the procedure11:51
thoreauputice.g. in google groups11:51
lunitikwaseem: any reason you aren't getting it via synaptic? 'sudo apt-get install tilp'  :/11:51
lunitikwaseem: it says right on the site that its in the archive!11:52
waseemlet me try that11:52
thoreauputiclunitik: argggh - I didn't know it was available! Thanks11:52
waseemomfg11:52
waseemlunitik: thanks, that saved me a lot of time11:52
=== thoreauputic beats himself for forgetting apt-cache search
lunitikwaseem: funny how reading usually does do that...11:53
waseemhaha dont make fun of me11:53
waseemim new to this11:53
waseemwindows made everything too easy11:53
airox;)11:53
lunitikthoreauputic: from the download site he just pasted:  'For Debian packages, they are on the CDs/Internet.'11:53
lunitikie, in apt....11:54
=== Blackice1963 [~gary@pcp02171049pcs.brghtn01.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
thoreauputiclunitik: oh - so even more obvious then...11:54
lunitikthoreauputic: yeah...11:54
lunitikwaseem: windows makes nothing easier... except maybe getting spyware and the such... you're just more used to it... trust me, when you get used to Debian, you will think Windows is braindead...11:55
Blackice1963lol11:55
goldfish_hehe11:55
goldfish_yes, windows will become your hate in life11:56
goldfish_And you will hate Bill Gates.11:56
Blackice1963thats right lol11:56
=== thoreauputic nods agreement with lunitik
=== granted [~bibi@abo-102-142-68.bdx.modulonet.fr] has joined #ubuntu
Blackice1963deb is the best11:56
=== Kaww [z@81.213.230.144] has joined #ubuntu
Kawwwww.otomotivshow.com   WEBSITE HOSTING RESELLER11:58
=== Kaww [z@81.213.230.144] has left #ubuntu []
danielssigh11:58
=== jesus_ is now known as jesus_detached
=== FireEgl [Ariel@Atlantica.US] has joined #Ubuntu
ericjesus_ is now known as jesus_detached : muhahah : are you really jesus muhahaha12:01
ericdo you met him ?12:01
ericmuhahah12:01
topylijesus rules12:01
=== felixdZ [~pjharper@a213-84-42-207.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu
=== quazion_ [~quazion@212.129.214.40] has joined #ubuntu
snowblinkwebsite design winners are up. I like Brad's. I wonder how long before they implement.12:02
topylii assume the hoary installer won't autodetect serial devices like irda dongles?12:03
=== waseem [~waseem@cpe-67-49-36-167.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== FeliXDZ [~pjharper@a213-84-42-207.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu
FeliXDZHello. I dist-upgraded to hoary and it appears I have lost my sound. Is this unusual?12:06
=== allio is now known as allio`afk
waseemok im trying to transfer a program onto my calculator12:07
=== Moiana [~breno@200.250.65.130] has joined #Ubuntu
Moianagreetings!12:07
waseembut it doesnt recognize the .zip file12:07
Moianais there a way to restore the functionality of pressing CTRL+ALT+[F1-F12]  to switch to the console virtual terminals?? I am using Ubuntu Hoary with x.org, but I cant figure how to switch to console now12:08
HrdwrBoBMoiana: it's the sam12:08
HrdwrBoBe12:08
waseemok how do i make the computer recognize my ti89 so that tilp will work12:08
=== Dreamer3_ [~unknown@sdn-ap-002tnnashP0336.dialsprint.net] has joined #ubuntu
MoianaHrdwrBoB : I press CTRL+ALT+F1, it doesnt send me back to the console. I know of at least one other person who has had the same problems (he was running Ubuntu packages on top of a Debian system)12:09
waseemhow do i unzip a file12:10
HrdwrBoBhrm ok12:10
goldfish_waseem: unzip12:10
HrdwrBoBhave you looked at bug reports?12:10
HrdwrBoBthere might be a big files12:10
HrdwrBoBbug filed12:10
HrdwrBoBif not, file one :)12:10
Moianawaseem: check if you have the "unzip" program by trying to execute it. If you don't, apt-get install unzip :)12:10
=== biatche [biatche@biatche.user] has joined #ubuntu
waseemgoldfish_: ya i just tried that12:10
goldfish_work?12:10
waseemexit12:10
biatchei wanna give ubuntu a try... is it better to begin with hoary or warty?12:11
=== lunitik [~trey@ip68-230-75-109.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu
netpuppydoes the default ubuntu amd64 kernel contain any patches?12:11
=== spooky_ [~callum@203-167-185-198.dsl.clear.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu
thoreauputicbiatche: warty12:11
netpuppyor is it a plain vanilla?12:11
=== soulhack [soulhack@212.85.77.88] has joined #ubuntu
waseemhmm my computer does not seem to be recognizing my calculator12:11
lunitiknetpuppy: yes, it contains a few patches etc.12:12
waseemdo i need to mount it?12:12
topylinetpuppy: the ubuntu kernels have many patches12:12
MoianaHrdwrBoB : looking for bugtrack on homepage to do that :)12:12
thoreauputicbiatche: hoary is still in development12:12
goldfish_biatche: hoary isnt stable until april, so maybe warty , but alot of ppl are running hoary with no problems already12:12
netpuppytopyli, where can I find them?12:12
topylinetpuppy: dunno, debian has a package called debian-patches or something, but i don't think ubuntu has one12:12
waseem...12:12
=== Blackice1963 [~gary@pcp02171049pcs.brghtn01.mi.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
waseemanyone please help12:12
=== SeFoKumA [~zienaga@44.Red-81-44-205.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu
lunitikwaseem: most people aren't familier with tilp, I haven't even considered plugin a T1 calc to my computer... don't see the point really   :/12:13
thoreauputicwaseem: look at the output of dmesg after you plug it in and see what it's recognised as12:13
biatchewarty looks like it has lots of out of date stuff... hrm... but hrm, how does ubuntu maintain their package tree? they throw in latest stuff? well... for instance, gcc = 3.3.4 in warty... there gcc 3.4.3 for warty?12:13
soulhackthe basic installation guide, from WinXP to Ubuntu, where can I find this? Is it this: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/howto/helpcenterhowto.2005-02-28.667120487712:14
topylibiatche: no, warty has what warty has12:14
waseemthanks thoreauputik12:14
lunitiknetpuppy: you should be able to find info in the docs in /usr/share/doc/kernel-image-`uname -r`/12:14
thoreauputicbiatche: if you want the latest, hoary12:14
biatcheis hoary buggy?12:14
topyliprobaly :)12:14
lunitikbiatche: not really.12:15
goldfish_soulhack: the installaton cd is fairly straight forward12:15
biatcheok hmm..12:15
topylibiatche: the "preview" of warty should be out this wednesday, so i guess it's in pretty good shape by then12:15
biatcheu mean hoary12:15
topylibiatche: i mean hoary of course12:15
goldfish_heh12:15
soulhacki am completely new to linux, so I did have some troubles with getting stuff right to be honest.12:15
=== krischan [~krischan@p5090A8F4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu
lunitikbiatche: imo, its no more unstable than warty right now... most packages contained are getting stable upstream etc.12:15
soulhackI didnt find any guide on the cd12:15
topylisoulhack: all the docs are at the website12:16
=== johnnybezak [~johnnybez@203-217-32-231.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu
soulhackyea, i am looking atm12:16
johnnybezakhave any of you guys tried out beagle on ubuntu?12:16
goldfish_soulhack: oh right, sorry12:17
lunitiksoulhack: 'throw in the cd, restart, follow instruction, make custom partitioning to account for windows'...12:17
topyliwindows who?12:17
lunitikjohnnybezak: I have successfully avoided Mono so far...12:17
lunitiktopyli: shutup12:17
soulhackokay, when i dl ubuntu- i rar the stuff into a folder and burn it on disk, right? Then i have the install-CD?12:17
lunitik:P12:17
johnnybezaklunitik: haha12:17
=== topyli shuts up
=== lunitik pats topyli "good boy"
thoreauputicsoulhack: no, you burn the iso as is12:18
goldfish_soulhack: you burn the iso12:18
topylioh, I can't hold it! i've never been quiet for such a long time!12:18
lunitiktopyli: haha... I have that problem too  :P12:18
thoreauputicsoulhack: "burn as image" or similar12:19
soulhackah, my winRAR is set to open ISO-Files when i click them- never realized it was an ISO-file, that helps a lot12:19
topylihmm. winrar is developing an intelligence that scares me :)12:20
=== lunitik would have thought the '.iso' thing would be a good hint *hides*
error_29thoreauputic - re burning images -- do you happen to know if choosing "disc-at-once" vs "track-at-once" makes a difference?12:20
soulhackwell, windows have this little thing that removes filendings unless enabled ;)12:20
lunitikerror_29: not when there is only one file...12:20
error_29reason I ask is, while ubuntu installs fine from my discs, other debian distros have not, on my laptop12:20
topylierror_29: might be the smart installer12:21
thoreauputicsoulhack: windows has many "little things" of that helpful kind </sarcasm>12:21
soulhackhaha12:21
soulhackhow big partition do i need for Ubuntu?12:22
lunitiksoulhack: 1.7 gigs12:22
StoffBox-SteveHi :D12:22
lunitikStoffBox-Steve: hi12:22
error_29topyli, smart installer?12:22
soulhackokay, 7gb (my old windows partition) is overkill?12:22
lunitiksoulhack: recommend at least 3 though12:22
thoreauputicsoulhack: give yourself a few gigs extra...12:22
lunitiksoulhack: else there is no room for play, thats no good  :P12:22
topylisoulhack: my HUGE installation is 4.6G but the default install should fit in 2 or so12:22
lunitiksoulhack: sorta... would be ok though12:22
thoreauputicsoulhack: 7gig is OK12:23
soulhacki want play, so i'll go with my old 7gig12:23
error_297 gigs!12:23
soulhacki've got plenty!12:23
FeliXDZSince dist-upgrading to hoary I have been listening to the sound of silence...12:23
thoreauputicsoulhack: 10 or 15 would be nicer12:23
topylierror_29: perhaps the good folks at ubuntu have injected extra smartness to debian-installer12:23
lunitiktopyli: its exactly 1.7 gigs.... trust me... its one of the first things I check out with new distro's... ;P12:23
topyliok :)12:23
lunitiktopyli: not really... they hide like half the options, but thats about it...12:23
lunitikFeliXDZ: try restarting  :/12:24
soulhacki should remove windows before installing Ubuntu, right?12:24
topyliwell then it might indeed be the cd's12:24
FeliXDZNot the Simon and Garfunkel version but rather no noise comes out my speakers. They worked well in Warty.12:24
error_29(me, I used my extra drive space to set up extra partitions so I could "reinstall" ubuntu without removing what I've got.  5 gigs each seems ok for now)12:24
lunitiksoulhack: nah... no need12:24
waseemOk, in the FAQ for tilp, it shows me what to do for the following question i have12:24
topylisoulhack: if you don't need windows, the installer will remove it12:24
waseemQ: Ok, tilp works now, but I get this error when I try to access the calc :12:24
FeliXDZlunitik, Do you mean rebooting or something else?12:24
soulhackah, awesome.12:24
waseemMsg: Timeout occured while reading to the device.12:24
waseemCause: Check that your link cable is plugged and/or the calculator is ready.12:24
waseemSystem: Permission denied (errno = 13)12:24
waseemA: Check nodes permissions (/dev/ttySx).12:24
thoreauputicsoulhack: you won't get any argument about removing windows here...12:25
waseemthere is not directory for that though12:25
lunitikFeliXDZ: yes... thats what I mean... it seems to fix most sound issues... as annoying as it may be  :/12:25
waseemany ideas?12:25
soulhacki want windows as far gone as possible12:25
soulhackit's like pop-music12:25
soulhackonce you get fed up12:25
soulhackyou never wanna hear it again12:25
waseem...can any of you guys help with my problem?12:26
StoffBox-Steve;) soulhack12:26
FeliXDZI have been checking the forums.It seems to be a common problem. lunitik I have already rebooted more than once.12:26
error_29I see, topyli... but weirdly, this only happens with my laptop.  Maybe a flaw with my cd-rom; other debian stuff insists the drive isn't mounted, even though it's been installing from that drive all along12:26
topylisoulhack: well, just install ubuntu and tell it to use all your space12:26
lunitiksoulhack: the installer, by default I think, will get rid of it...12:26
soulhackneato12:26
topylierror_29: your cd uses a module that most installers don't load, or the install kernels don't have12:27
waseemblah ill figure out the problem tomorrow night12:27
lunitikFeliXDZ: shitty... your in audio group? ('groups' to check) ... module is loaded? ('lsmod | grep snd' to check)12:27
waseemgood night people12:27
topylimaube12:27
=== Safari_Al [~tr@ppp51-83.lns1.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu
lunitikyou're*12:27
thoreauputicwaseem: if all else fails, see if there's a man page ;)12:27
=== poxymox [~test@dsl-082-082-094-198.arcor-ip.net] has left #ubuntu []
=== Burgundavia [~Burgundav@S0106000000cc07fc.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu
topylithoreauputic: man pages are the very last resort? ;)12:28
thoreauputictopyli: there was an ironic element in my suggestion...  ;-)12:28
FeliXDZI'll check those. thanks for the tips lunitik .12:28
topyliyah12:28
error_29ah hah-- thanks topyli.  So basically, if I hadn't sheerly by accident, tried ubuntu first on this laptop, I wouldn't have gotten linux on here at all (no floppy)12:28
topylierror_29: you should find out what the module is, so you can find and load it, if you choose to install another distro one day12:29
topylihowever that is done, i don't know :)12:30
=== theine [~theine@83.72.197.119.ip.tele2adsl.dk] has joined #ubuntu
FeliXDZI am still in the audio group (dist-upgrade shouldn't affect that anyway)...12:30
lunitiktopyli: google, and modprobe12:30
=== kent [~kent@83.249.61.222] has joined #ubuntu
lunitikFeliXDZ: ok... module listed in lsmod | grep snd?12:30
theinehi, do ~/.bashrc or ~/.bash_profile get sourced when gnome starts up?12:30
FeliXDZI have lots of snd modules. Am I looking for a particular one?12:30
theinethey don't, do they?12:30
error_29thanks topyli; I really want to be able to do a minimum install of debian from a disc, on the extra partitions I made just for that purpose, so I can try to build and learn linux gradually12:31
lunitikFeliXDZ: snd_somethingthatsoundsfamilier12:31
lunitikFeliXDZ: whats your sound card?12:31
FeliXDZ Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)12:31
=== BockBilbo [~BockBilbo@85.84.48.144] has joined #ubuntu
thoreauputictheine: /etc/bash.bashrc  I think12:32
thoreauputictheine: system wide12:32
topylilunitik: google will probably tell how to load a module in different installers like anaconda and debian-installer, yes12:32
FeliXDZmy lsmod: snd                    50276  8 snd_intel8x0m,snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pc12:33
=== StoffBox-Steve wtf 15.8Kb/s arg i kill my neighbor ....
topylilunitik: you do have a more difficult problem if the install kernel doesn't have the module though :)12:33
lunitikFeliXDZ: probably 'snd_intel8x0' or simular then...12:33
theinethoreauputic: ok, but i would really need to set user specific environment variables12:33
FeliXDZIts there. snd                    50276  8 snd_intel8x0m,snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pc12:33
lunitikFeliXDZ: ok cool... cept, but, then there is no logical reason for it not to work  :/12:34
FeliXDZAs I say worked in Warty.  Myserious. It seems to be happening to a few people judging by the forums.12:34
thoreauputictheine: .bashrc is for non-login shells, IIRC12:34
FeliXDZMysterious I mean.12:34
lunitiktopyli: search google.com/linux for model and 'module'... then just modprobe what you find out it is  :/12:35
error_29topyli, are you by any chance directing comments at lunatik that you intended to ref my cd problems?12:35
lunitikFeliXDZ: here, restarting fixed it... not sure why that isn't working there.12:35
=== hyphen [~hyphen@c-24-130-176-80.we.client2.attbi.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== zbowling [~zbowling@adsl-68-95-185-18.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu
theinethoreauputic: yes, but if i set an environment variable in ~/.bashrc, for example firefox doesn't know of it when launched from the gnome menu, does it?12:36
lunitikerror_29: no... those were for me12:36
hyphenim back and im getting closer to getting it to work!#)($*#$!@#$12:36
error_29ah, ok, ...12:36
thoreauputictheine: I guess not12:36
topylierror_29: i'm trying to talk to two people at the same time, with varying success :)12:36
lunitiktheine: .bashrc only sets bash environment... .xinitrc12:36
error_29I figured!12:36
FeliXDZI'll try a restart again. But I can't see it working.12:37
theinelunitik: .xinitrc... thanks12:37
FeliXDZBack in a minute.12:37
lunitikFeliXDZ: fingers crossed though  ;)12:37
lunitiktheine: that and .xsession ... both are read during X startup..12:37
FeliXDZI will stand on one foot and make some magical incantations12:37
lunitikor at least... they're supposed to be...12:37
topylii thought startx reads xinitrc and xdm reads xsession?12:38
topylimight be mistaken12:38
thoreauputictopyli: in debian I think startx will read .xsession12:38
soulhackinstalling ubuntu, that is done through DOS, right?12:38
soulhackbooting from disc12:38
error_29alright, so my hat's off to ubuntu's smart installer.  Just wish it were smart enough to know not to keep looking for non-existant floppy drives!12:38
topylithoreauputic: ah. smart12:38
theinelunitik: well, it's worth a try, although I know that ~/.Xmodmap is not sourced at gnome startup although it's supposed to be as well I guess...12:38
=== looksaus [~looksaus@83-134-125-71.Leuven.GoPlus.FastDSL.tiscali.be] has joined #ubuntu
thoreauputicgdm only uses .xsession for the "system session" AFAIK12:39
topylisoulhack: hell no :)12:39
soulhackoh12:39
lunitiktopyli: X is started via /etc/X11/Xsession.d ... which calls these files... both gdm and startx do this/12:39
looksausany powerpc users here?12:39
=== Seveas [~seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu
topyliok12:39
soulhackthrough windows?12:39
looksausI have a problem running tomboy on my ibook..12:39
johnnybezaklooksaus: yep12:39
soulhackor is there something i need to dl to install?12:40
topylisoulhack: you boot the cd, and the installer comes up. it's linux-based12:40
lunitiklooksaus: compiled yourself... or via archive?12:40
=== cprov [~cprov@200.158.100.251] has joined #ubuntu
looksausuniverse12:40
looksaus(or is it multiverse?)12:40
soulhacktopyli, that doesnt help me since i never used linux before :)12:40
lunitiklooksaus: right first time  ;)12:40
soulhackbut i figure it's quite automatic12:40
thoreauputicsoulhack: set bios to boot from CD - the istall program runs from the CD12:40
topylisoulhack: just get the cd and boot. you may want to read (or even print) some documentation first12:40
thoreauputic*install12:41
looksausjohnnybezak, are you using tomboy?12:41
=== minimec [~minimec@108.42.62.81.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #ubuntu
lunitiksoulhack: you're over thinking this... just throw the CD in, and hit enter a few times.12:41
johnnybezaklooksaus: nope sorry12:41
soulhackhaha, okay.12:41
lunitiksoulhack: seriously, if you don't want Windows... thats a pretty safe way to install Ubuntu/12:41
looksausdo you feel like trying it out?12:41
looksausit might be nice to have a possible bug confirmed by another ppc user...12:42
topylilooksaus: tomboy is crashing on me :(12:42
looksaustopyli, on x86 or ppc?12:42
topylii386 though12:42
lunitiksoulhack: yet its considered one of the hardest installs around... I had my aunts dog install it once  :P12:42
soulhackhaha, really? well, I am not worried about the installation when it's going12:42
thoreauputicsoulhack: in fact the mythology says even installing debian could be done by a chicken ;) peck on the enter key... (not *quite* true, but close12:42
topylisoulhack: you just need to know where you are and which languages you prefer :)12:43
soulhacki'd be happy (or some closely related feeling to happy) if my computer crashed because then I can focus on my studies for once12:43
=== theine [~theine@83.72.197.119.ip.tele2adsl.dk] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
=== werewolf [~werewolf@ip-169-11.sn1.eutelia.it] has joined #ubuntu
lunitiksoulhack: only part I had to help with was username and hostname... his paws were too big  :(12:43
topylisoulhack: you need win9812:43
=== HiddenWolf [~hidde@136.15.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu
soulhackwin98?12:43
thoreauputiclunitik: of course he installed Mutt for mail ;-)12:44
topyliif you want it to crash more often :)12:44
=== BockBilbo [~Bock@85.84.43.70] has joined #ubuntu
=== looksaus [~looksaus@83-134-125-71.Leuven.GoPlus.FastDSL.tiscali.be] has left #ubuntu ["Looksaus]
soulhacklol12:44
hypheni got a question if anyone's willing to listen :P12:44
soulhackwinxp does that quite good too12:44
soulhackno big difference, really12:44
lunitiksoulhack: he's being sarcastic... WIndows 98 was infamous for crashing when you least wanted it to.12:44
topylihyphen: ask away12:44
soulhackyea :)12:44
hyphenwell i just installed wine12:44
topylilunitik: yeah, the SE fixed a lot but it still sucks12:44
hyphenwhen i run 130.218.100.512:45
soulhacki just thought (because i've been playing around in litestep, heh) that i needed win98 to install linux (ok, flame away!)12:45
lunitiktopyli: impossible for a DOS based system to not suck.12:45
=== stevehoad [~sh@212.110.7.80] has joined #ubuntu
hyphener the wine ~/filename12:45
HiddenWolfsoulhack: it's still the fastest possbiel configuration for old machines tho. :)12:45
hyphenit runs alright, then i get a windows blank error msg12:45
lunitiksoulhack: you just need a restart button  :/12:45
hyphenand the installer opens up, but it says "invalid package"12:45
hyphenany clue as to what i'm doing wrong?12:45
topylihyphen: which installer is that?12:45
hyphenits for maya 6.012:46
topylinot everything works on wine12:46
hyphenalias wavefront12:46
lunitikhyphen: have you checked to see whether Maya is supported in Wine? I'd bet money it isn't.12:46
hyphen$ sudo wine /media/cdrom0/maya/setup.exe12:46
hyphenlunitik: the wine website said it was12:46
lunitikhyphen: you realize there is a Linux version of Maya12:46
hyphenit was listed under the apps database12:46
hyphenyeah, but that runs in redhat and i can't find it anywhere :(12:47
lunitikhyphen: what was its level of support?12:47
hyphennot sure12:47
topylii have a windows pc. it's still the best platform for running windows programs :)12:47
hyphen1 i think12:47
=== Jrln [~GKkhAf@ALille-152-1-25-56.w83-192.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu
hyphenyeah as much as i love this ubuntu setup, i'm thinking that i'll have to go back to windows12:47
topylihyphen: they're not exclusive you know12:48
soulhackwhat boot-locale should i use for burning my ubuntu-image? (i dont know what it means)12:48
hyphenwhats not exclusive?12:48
lunitikhyphen: it doesn't say its supported at all... just is listed.12:48
topylihyphen: linux and windows12:48
thoreauputicboot-locale??12:48
=== coroner [~aaaar@CPE20320884-1707-5.CMTS01.MQL.ncable.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
hyphenlunitik: why would they list if it isn't supported?12:48
soulhackbeats me12:48
lunitikhyphen: because someone wanted feedback usually.12:48
hyphentopyli: i wasn't sure how to do two oses on one hd12:49
hyphenahh12:49
topylihyphen: just salvage an old pc and put win98 on it. throw away monitor and keyboard, then run the box via VNC on linux.12:49
hypheni had win98 and redhat running together once, but redhat gave me that option12:49
thoreauputicsoulhack: there's usually a 'raw" or "image" burning option, even in windows...12:49
=== eruin [~eruin@eruin.user] has joined #ubuntu
topylihyphen: you can also dual boot with ubuntu12:49
hyphensorry about my newbness, but what's vnc?12:49
lunitiksoulhack: what app are you using?12:49
soulhackNERO 6.312:50
=== beyond [~beyond@200-206-134-238.async.com.br] has joined #ubuntu
hyphenahh12:50
soulhacki've never used it before12:50
StoffBox-Steveahhhh i hate this fucking windows maschines .... my neighbor has a new tro/virus .. and use 100% of the network *grrrrrrrrrr*12:50
soulhackbut figured to burn an iso-image i needed to use something that's not the windows raw function12:50
lunitiksoulhack: ahh... never used that... ever used burn4free... its nice... and has never failed me... just have to click 'burn iso' and voila12:50
hyphentopyli: so i'd be controlling 2 boxes through 1?12:50
topylihyphen: it's a bit like pc anywhere on windows (i guess)12:50
soulhackwhere can i dl it?12:50
hyphenahh12:51
topylihyphen: the other box's desktop is in a window on your main desktop12:51
hyphenhrmm12:51
coronersoulhack, i only just joined, forgive me if im off subject, are you trying to burn an iso using nero ?12:51
hyphenooh, but i imagine that it'd be much slower12:51
soulhackcoroner, yes12:51
soulhackis that bad?12:51
topylihyphen: yes. no quake3 :)12:51
coronernah its fine, ill help you if you like12:51
=== helloyo [~alex@c211-30-78-117.belrs2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
hyphenhaha12:51
soulhackcoroner, yes, well, i think i did it already12:51
soulhackor, it's burning12:51
lunitiksoulhack: gah... file menu... mid way down... something like raw burn or burn image or something...12:51
topylihyphen: regular office work and such is fine12:51
lunitiksoulhack: I read something different, my bad12:52
coronerahh good, you did tick the finish cd button aswell ?12:52
hyphentopyli: well i'd be needing to run graphic intensive 3d software12:52
soulhackcoroner, i might have, not sure :S12:52
topylihyphen: ok, no good12:52
hyphenpoo!12:52
hyphengot my hopes up12:52
helloyoi have setup wmv to play, but some don't play with sound, whats wrong?12:52
=== stevehoad [~sh@212.110.7.80] has left #ubuntu []
topylihyphen: i'd dual boot or get another box12:52
lunitikhelloyo: you have libmad0 installed?12:52
=== maz1977 [~maz1977@gw-cu.metafora.mi.it] has joined #ubuntu
coronerwell if the cd doesnt load even after it says burn complete, chances are you need to tick the finilise cd tickbox. which means itll close the cd properly and not leave it open for more files later etc (multisession)12:53
helloyolunitik, yep12:53
hyphentopyli: yeah, i think i'm going to dual boot.  how do i go about doing it?12:53
maz1977hi all12:53
lunitikhelloyo: you'd have it if you installed 'gstreamer0.8-mad' or 'xmms-mp3'12:53
lunitikhelloyo: hmm... no reason it wouldn't then.12:53
goldfish_hyphen: partition your hd12:53
soulhackcoroner, okay, i think i said i did not want to create a multisession.12:54
=== FeliXDZ [~pjharper@a213-84-42-207.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu
=== telemaco [~telemaco@192.Red-81-35-12.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu
soulhackBut an ISO-image12:54
maz1977I've a question about bluetooth. Is someone usin' it?12:54
lunitikuhh... actually... its xmms-mad  ... but blah12:54
hyphenhrmm12:54
helloyolunitik, most of them play, just certain ones don't, as if the audio can't be decoded12:54
topylihyphen: i don't remember too well, but basically, you install windows first, then install linux telling it not to destroy windows, and set up the boot loader. the modern installers probably automate most of this12:54
coronersoulhack, yeah shouldnt have a problem then12:54
hyphenooh12:54
soulhacki'll bug you in a bit if I do tho ;P12:54
goldfish_hyphen: u got a windows install disk?12:54
hyphenyeah12:55
coronerno worries :D12:55
hyphena billion of them12:55
goldfish_u can format the hd with that12:55
goldfish_well12:55
goldfish_partition12:55
goldfish_it's handy12:55
goldfish_just create a partition for windows12:55
goldfish_and leave the rest as empty space12:55
=== lunitik wonders why you wouldn't just use the partitioning util in the installer?
hyphenahh12:55
lunitik(of linux)12:55
goldfish_lunitik: the ubuntu disk?12:55
hyphenthanks folks :P12:55
lunitikgoldfish_: yeah12:55
topylilunitik: well, you might as well make the windows partition with windows fdisk12:56
maz1977no one use gnome-bluetooth?12:56
goldfish_lunitik: he wants to dual boot12:56
lunitikgoldfish_: he prolly has Windows installed already....12:56
goldfish_heh12:56
goldfish_suppose :)12:56
topylioh, yeah :)12:56
hyphennah, no windows installed12:56
goldfish_righty12:56
topyliok, then goldfish_ is right on track12:57
hyphenthanks for the help, all12:57
=== maz1977 [~maz1977@gw-cu.metafora.mi.it] has left #ubuntu []
hyphentoo late for me to be doing anymore, so i bid you all adieu12:57
goldfish_night12:57
=== goldfish_ is now known as goldfish
=== ren0 [~pjharper@a213-84-42-207.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu
helloyowhats the command to put install grub onto hda? grub-install followed by what?12:59
lunitikhelloyo: 'grub-install /dev/hda'01:00
=== Pluk [~Pluk@12-68-dsl.ipact.nl] has joined #ubuntu
lunitikhelloyo: for mbr... or install to wherever /boot is01:00
lunitikhelloyo: you prolly want to install to mbr though01:00
=== Vjbwitjg [~Zztoc@ALille-152-1-25-56.w83-192.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu
=== bumperland [~bumper@69-162-201-196.bflony.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu
helloyoyeah, thanks01:03
=== linux_mafia [~maxb@222.152.105.162] has joined #ubuntu
=== jbailey [~jbailey@CPE000ded9d787c-CM014260028338.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu
topylidoes the hoary installer discover dongles on serial ports?01:05
lunitiktopyli: hoary's installer still uses discover1 ... was it detected with warty's installer... same answer01:06
topylilunitik: i didn't have the dongle when i installed warty :)01:07
=== nerval [~nerval@cpe-66-27-162-38.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== ren0 is now known as felixdz
=== jbailey [~jbailey@CPE000ded9d787c-CM014260028338.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
nervalquestion : on gnome 2.8; how do we add fonts? i mean where is the folder that we can copy-paste the fonts we have downloaded? or what else to do to add fonts? thank you.01:08
topylinerval: ~/.fonts01:08
=== felixdz is now known as ren0
StoffBox-Steve*GG* this xpenguins is funny01:08
lunitiknerval: nautilus: 'fonts:///01:08
lunitiknerval: just drag the font there.01:09
thoreauputicStoffBox-Steve: you know it has Bill, and Turtles as well?01:09
nervalthank you lunitik, a billion thanks.01:09
ren0Hi I used to be felixdz but now I am ren001:10
topyliand worms!01:10
ren0Still having sound problems01:10
=== Goshawk [~Goshawk@host144-106.pool8253.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu
StoffBox-Stevenot jet thoreauputic :) just installed it a few sec ago :)01:10
StoffBox-Stevehow can i setup ?01:10
lunitikren0: :(   'cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp'  <-- hear static?01:10
thoreauputicxpenguins -t Bill -n 8 -s01:11
lunitikren0: stupid question... volume control... PCM is turned up?01:11
=== bzbb [~john@pc-68-118-189-186.will.ct.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu
thoreauputicand you can squash Bill ;-)01:11
=== bestadvocate [~rob@c-24-131-99-53.mw.client2.attbi.com] has joined #ubuntu
tsumethoreauputic: heh :)01:11
bestadvocatewell one of my computers now has a decent desktop search program.01:11
lunitikbestadvocate: beagle?01:12
bestadvocateunfortunately its my windows one,  I still cant install mono on Ubuntu :-)01:12
tsumedoes anyone know if there are easy tools specifically for linux cloning?01:12
topylii only wish xpenguins and nautilus would be nice to each other01:12
tsumemono.. a disease..01:12
ren0lunitik I pretty old and senile but... It was the first thing I checked. I 'll thry the other suggestion.01:12
=== Suvroc [Corvus@85.86.233.133] has joined #ubuntu
StoffBox-Stevethx thoreauputic bill is funny :D01:13
thoreauputic:)01:13
Myrtti'llo again01:13
ren0trying 'cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp' Nothing heard.01:14
thoreauputicStoffBox-Steve: there's a game called xbill as well (the idea is to kill Bill before he installs the Windows virus)01:14
=== IvyCQHome [~Sir@c906a0a6.virtua.com.br] has joined #ubuntu
StoffBox-Steve*GG* thoreauputic01:14
ren0Which is better the alsamiser or the oss?01:14
lunitikren0: no idea then... sorry01:15
thoreauputicxbill is in "universe"01:15
=== hayden [~hayden@203-219-130-10-qld.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
lunitikren0: alsa01:15
kenthmm, gthumb in Hoary seems a bit unstable today. I didn't see if it was updated recently. When doing a slidescreen it crashes after some time, and its easely repeated.01:15
ren0Thanks for the suggestion though. I thought so too. Alsa01:15
topylithoreauputic: there was a finnish linux distro called best linux. their installer included xbill for you to play while the install proceeds :)01:15
=== TongMaster [~TongMaste@dsl-202-52-33-118.nsw.veridas.net] has joined #ubuntu
thoreauputictopyli: excellent! *g*01:16
lunitiktopyli: haha... thats funny01:16
topyliyeah, nice touch :)01:16
lunitiktopyli: more distro's should do that..  :P01:16
lunitik(maybe not that game... but yeah... entertainment for install wouldn't be bad  :P )01:17
=== m00se [~moose@civ92.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu
=== bumperland [~bumper@69-162-201-196.bflony.adelphia.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
StoffBox-Stevetopyli, thats a great idea for netinstall :)01:17
topyliyeah. but you need to have a graphical installer. although ubuntu could include bombardier or something right now :)01:18
=== CorvusZz [Corvus@85.86.233.133] has joined #ubuntu
=== werewolf [~werewolf@ip-169-11.sn1.eutelia.it] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
m00sehi, i need some help with usb mass stroage mp3 player on hoary? anyone has experience with this?01:19
topylim00se: afaik, it should Just Work01:21
topyliyou should get an icon on the desktop and there you go01:21
=== TheIceMan [~theiceman@82.77.200.16] has joined #ubuntu
m00setopyli: it Just Worked just once ;(01:22
topylihmm.01:22
m00sei got the icon and everything was fine01:22
CarlKFeb14 hoary installed on a box, yesterday, same box: Mar  5 15:10:29 anna[10510] : WARNING **: parser_rfc822: Iek! Don't find end of field, it seems to be after the end of the line!01:22
CarlKwhere should I post the details?01:22
m00senow when i plug it it's mounted as /media/usbdisk but no icon in nautilus01:23
=== wtroche [~wtroche@ool-18bfd0cc.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu
CarlK(and the install stopped at that point)01:23
=== membreya [~membreya@c211-28-78-53.sunsh3.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
m00seand i have to umout it manually01:23
m00sebut about 50% of umounts result in system freeze01:23
=== TongMaster [~TongMaste@home.waugh.id.au] has joined #ubuntu
topylisounds buggy01:24
linux_mafiam00se, what kernel?01:25
lunitikCarlK: bugzilla seems like a good place...01:26
=== lupusBE [~lupus@dD5E03F2C.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu
m00selinux_mafia: 2.6.10-3-k701:27
=== wtroche [~wtroche@ool-18bfd0cc.dyn.optonline.net] has left #ubuntu ["Ahh]
CarlKoh yeah... I can post attachements... (syslog)01:27
=== CarlK needs more coffee
=== jesuel [~sjg@jesuel.user] has joined #ubuntu
linux_mafiam00se, oh, that should be ok then, more recent kernels were having issues with inotify/gamin, have you looked at the hoary forum?01:28
m00selinux_mafia: i had gamin/inotify freezes in 2.6.10-4-k7, that's why i'm using -3.01:29
m00seno i didn't look at the forum yet01:30
=== hayden [~hayden@203-219-130-10-qld.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
=== CorvusZz is now known as Corvus
=== zim [~zim@zimonline.demon.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu
Goshawkis there someone interesting to try a alpha package of an "usermode splash" booting process?01:30
=== biatche [biatche@biatche.user] has left #ubuntu []
zimhi all01:31
linux_mafiam00se, youre on to it, i thought using 2.6.10-3 was meant to be ok too, perhaps another issue then01:31
zimwhen is Hoary Hedgehog out ??01:31
Chipzz"when it's ready"? :)01:31
zim:) ok can one download a version for testing ??01:32
m00selinux_mafia: i have som issues with hotplug too, when i plug my mp3 player and camera at the sime time hotplug goes nuts and continously spawns its scripts01:32
jdubzim: www.ubuntu.com/wiki/HoaryReleaseSchedule01:32
jdubzim: cdimage.ubuntu.com01:32
zimty01:33
linux_mafiam00se, i just added "noinotify" to my grub line, and used latest kernel anyway01:33
=== k40z [~k40zmotic@82.152.173.220] has joined #ubuntu
haydenhow can i make an icon of a mounted smb share appear on the desktop when i mount a smb share?01:33
Burgundaviahayden: should do it automagically01:34
=== lucas_ [lucas@abo-41-5-68.ech.modulonet.fr] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
m00selinux_mafia: i'll try that, thx01:34
Burgundaviahayden: are you running Hoary?01:35
=== stub [~stub@dsl-246.248.240.220.dsl.comindico.com.au] has left #ubuntu []
haydenno warty01:35
linux_mafiajdub, are the inotify issues ubuntu specific? or are all distros having similar probs? although beagle is meant to be inotify agnostic these days, it still wont work for me these days01:35
=== BockBilbo [~Bock@85.84.43.70] has joined #ubuntu
jdublinux_mafia: no one's shipping inotify yet01:36
=== HiddenWolf [~hidde@136.15.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu
m00sei see some people on the forum have similar problems, but no solution :(01:37
=== crimsun_ [~crimsun@f204e374a7209dac.node.tor] has joined #ubuntu
=== thoreauputic [~debianarc@wolax6-076.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
=== mirak [~mirak@AAubervilliers-152-1-4-170.w82-121.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu
=== martink [~martin@pD9EB2A53.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu
=== topyli [~juha@dsl-hkigw3pa5.dial.inet.fi] has left #ubuntu []
linux_mafiajdub, yes i understand its not a production feature, i just meant other development trees, the only other person i noticed having the same problems as me on the dashboard hackers ML, was a fellow ubuntu user, i suppose the others are r love and co though, oh well01:40
jdubthat's because we're pretty much the only distro pushing it01:40
jdubsuse is closed01:40
jdubmandrake had it for a bit, but were badly hacking around problems01:41
=== bdale [~bdale@tc1100.gag.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== martin [~martin@81-223-175-85.fadingerstrasse.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #ubuntu
thoreauputictrivial issue: after installing xbill I get "xbill  no configured GUIs" (tried --gui gtk, no go )01:41
martinhallo, kann mir bitte wer sagen wie ich in ubuntu upgrade?01:41
haydenhow can i make an icon of a mounted smb share appear on the desktop when i mount a smb share?01:41
thoreauputicany ideas on why xbill fails to run? What do I need to do here?01:42
=== martin [~martin@81-223-175-85.fadingerstrasse.xdsl-line.inode.at] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
=== desplesda [~desplesda@144.139.77.83] has joined #ubuntu
Burgundaviahayden: go to your home dir then to desktop and then hit ctrl-r and see if it shows up01:43
desplesdahi, i'm running hoary array 5, my dialup is painfully slow - dns lookups tend to take up to 30 seconds01:43
=== L|nu}{ [~linux@ti112210a080-3515.bb.online.no] has joined #ubuntu
desplesdai think this may be due to ipv6 - where can i disable it?01:43
=== NetwrkMonkey [~Monkey@netwrkmonkey.user] has joined #ubuntu
=== Burn` [~Burnout@97.235-201-80.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu
=== seb128 [~seb128@ANancy-151-1-29-88.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu
=== HiddenWolf gets angry: kingston can't supply the memory he wants on time
=== raggi [~raggij@hafnarfjordur.com] has joined #ubuntu
Hannes_HiddenWolf: what kind of memory?01:48
linux_mafiajdub, will you be attending the linux.conf.au conference in new zealand next year?01:48
Hannes_something special01:48
jdubof course01:48
linux_mafiaalright01:48
=== raggi is now known as R4gg1
=== paolo [~donpaolo@tdev158-155.codetel.net.do] has joined #ubuntu
paoloHi guys! What memory stick is reported to work with ubuntu without problems? thank you!01:49
paolousb memory stick01:49
desplesdaa keydrive? most of them work fine01:50
desplesdawhich version of ubuntu are you using?01:50
paolothe first01:50
desplesdawarty? 4.10?01:50
paoloyes01:50
membreyaanyone here use galeon browser??01:50
HiddenWolfHannes_: pc3200 hyperx ultra low latency 1gb kit.01:50
desplesdapaolo, have you tried the usb device yet?01:50
linux_mafiapaolo, yeah almost any id say, i use a adata one with 0 problems01:51
paolomembreya: I use it in debian testing, it works quite fine01:51
desplesdawell, plug it in and see what happens01:51
desplesda:)01:51
membreyapaolo: do you prefer it over firefox?01:51
paolodesplesda: no, I want to buy one and I don't want to waste money :-)01:51
desplesdaah, right01:51
desplesdawell, pretty much everything works01:51
paolomembreya: yes01:51
desplesdaand if it doesnt, go back and claim a refund01:51
desplesdausb-storage is fairly standard01:52
desplesdaany off-the-shelf stick will work fine01:52
membreyapaolo: thanks for that, will give it a run now :) ....bored of firefox :)01:52
haydenthe mounted folders dont show up when i do ctrl-r in desktop01:53
=== paolo [~donpaolo@tdev158-155.codetel.net.do] has left #ubuntu ["Going]
=== m00se [~moose@civ92.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu
m00selinux_mafia: the noinotify option seems to help. no crashes and icon appears as expected. thx for the tip01:56
linux_mafiam00se, no worries man, had me confused for a bit too01:56
linux_mafiam00se, only trouble is beagle doesn't work properly for me now though :(01:57
m00sei don't use beagle so this is not a problem for me01:58
=== javiolo [~javiolo@84-18-10-188.usul.arrakis.es] has joined #ubuntu
=== martin_ [~martin@81-223-175-85.fadingerstrasse.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #ubuntu
martin_hello02:00
=== floater_ [vnaatane@ruutana.ratol.fi] has joined #ubuntu
martin_kann mir bitte wer sagen welches debian-image ich mir runterladen muss?02:01
martin_ich hab einen ganz normalen laptop02:01
BockBilbois it possible to download a php file from a web server?02:02
Hannes_kannst du bitte englisch sprechen?02:02
=== da_bon_bon [~rohandhru@203.212.221.132] has joined #ubuntu
Hannes_BockBilbo: no02:02
Hannes_as it is executed serversie02:02
Hannes_*side02:02
BockBilbo:(02:02
da_bon_bonhi all02:02
Hannes_exept by ftp/sft/opening it with eg nano from ssh02:03
da_bon_bonwhenever i try to add some hardware to my virtual machine in vmware, it hangs. anyone experienced this ?02:03
BockBilboHannes_, but if its a remote server from witch i have nothing related to02:03
CarlKhoary, where do I set sshd to run on boot?02:03
BockBilboit's impossible right?02:03
Hannes_BockBilbo: no can do02:03
BockBilbowhat?02:04
=== NetwrkMonkey [~Monkey@netwrkmonkey.user] has joined #ubuntu
=== CorvusZz [Corvus@85.86.233.133] has joined #ubuntu
CarlKduh... it isn't installed, thats why it doesnt load02:07
=== floater_ [vnaatane@ruutana.ratol.fi] has left #ubuntu []
=== floater_ [vnaatane@ruutana.ratol.fi] has joined #ubuntu
=== BiteMeBill [~antiM$@oh-67-77-123-4.dyn.sprint-hsd.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== abelli_ [~abelli@host-84-222-39-20.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #ubuntu
=== YankDownUnder [~stephen@d220-237-210-77.dsl.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has left #ubuntu ["High]
abelli,02:11
=== jesus\ [~jesus_@86.50-201-80.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu
=== KingTong [~TongMaste@home.waugh.id.au] has joined #ubuntu
=== invitro [~invitro@h112n2fls32o879.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== GarySaved [~gary@67-139-153-214.br1.hnv.mi.frontiernet.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== joda [~joda@0x50c4904b.adsl-fixed.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu
=== panickedthumb [~travis@68.118.21.165] has joined #ubuntu
GarySavedI just installed ubuntu hoary02:16
jodahey all - a quick question from a (somewhat) newbie: how/where do I add a folder to my path, so that it's set at startup time, for all users?02:16
snowblink/etc/profile02:17
GarySavedI want to add flashplayer.02:17
jodasnowblink: great, thanks :)02:18
zimwhat program do you use to play .mpg .wmv etc02:18
SiRrUsGarySaved try here good place for info  www.ubuntuguide.org02:19
=== thaytan [~jan@noraisin.net] has joined #ubuntu
Burgundaviazim: totem02:19
GarySavedI entered:  'sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla'02:19
thoreauputiczim: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats02:19
zimty02:19
GarySavedBut us says it can not find it.02:19
=== no0tic [~no0tic@host4-27.pool8251.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu
haydenhow can i check if my pcmcia wifi card is supported for linux?02:19
BurgundaviaGarySaved: try synaptic02:20
thaytandoes anyone have any idea why python2.4-logilab-common depends on python2.4-optik when I can't see any sign that python2.4-optik ever existed?02:20
=== palfi [~richard@chello062178190057.2.15.vie.surfer.at] has joined #ubuntu
Burgundaviahayden: check the chipset, but googling the card name and linux02:20
snowblinkGarySaved: you need to add repositories02:20
SiRrUsGarySaved have you update your source list?02:20
haydenok02:20
GarySavedI tried Synaptic, and it does not have anything related, when I search for 'flash'.02:20
=== CorvusZz is now known as Corvus
thoreauputicGarySaved: it's in multiverse02:20
GarySavedI'll see if it is included.02:21
thoreauputicGarySaved: http://ubuntuguide.org02:21
SiRrUssnowblink i saw what you said not sure why GarySaved didnt :)02:21
=== Goshawk [~Goshawk@host144-106.pool8253.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu
BurgundaviaGarySaved: synaptic settings-->repositories click on add02:21
=== theine [~theine@83.72.197.119.ip.tele2adsl.dk] has joined #ubuntu
BurgundaviaGarySaved: then selected multiverse or non-free02:21
theinewow, Gnome 2.10 hit Hoary...02:21
snowblinkany reason why ubuntuguide.org was removed from the topic here?02:22
Burgundaviasnowblink: not offical docs02:23
Burgundaviasnowblink: that would be my guess02:23
StoffBox-Stevethink why no space ... limit of topic lines02:23
=== tanari [~inandrei@217-159-175-199-dsl.kvm.estpak.ee] has joined #ubuntu
tanarihello all02:23
tanarii have one small problem02:23
BurgundaviaGarySaved: did you get those repos working?02:23
tanariI have changed SBLive 5.1 PCI slot.02:24
StoffBox-Stevethere is only 490 to set the topic02:24
=== vpalle [~vpalle@park222.koll.au.dk] has joined #ubuntu
tanariand alsactl can't find my soundcard02:24
tanariHow to reinstall drivers or change something in settings?02:24
thoreauputictanari: maybe run sudo /sbin/discover and see if it finds it in the new slot02:26
=== Einzelganger is now known as Einzel-away
tanariandrei@ubuntu:~ $ sudo /sbin/discover02:26
tanariPassword:02:26
tanariopen_sock(): No such device02:26
tanariandrei@ubuntu:~ $02:26
thoreauputictanari: hmm - Ok well it was just an idea :/02:27
tanari:). All worked find, I just changed slot. I think I need only change some .conf file02:27
=== BasL [bas@tuxmachine.xs4all.nl] has joined #Ubuntu
tanaribut I don't know how and where02:28
thoreauputic/etc/alsa perhaps02:29
=== telemaco [~telemaco@192.Red-81-35-12.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu
GarySavedThat was it.  I added it to the line with 'universe'.02:30
tanarithere are no files in /etc/alsa02:30
thoreauputictanari: I just noticed that - hehe - sorry02:31
thoreauputicwhereis alsa   says /etc/alsa - don't know why02:31
thoreauputicsinc it's empty...02:31
=== thoreauputic decides not to venture any more ideas
=== tizen [alain@ADent8215.ResNet.Dal.Ca] has joined #ubuntu
GarySavedHave you heard of people having the problem of the printer not working from the browser?02:33
=== tizen [alain@ADent8215.ResNet.Dal.Ca] has joined #ubuntu
=== Alessio [~Alessio@host113-4.pool8251.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu
coronerohhh i think i just annoyed my ubuntu, i right clicked on the trash can and it had to quit, reloaded it and now the applications and computer menus arent working properly02:34
thoreauputicGarySaved: it has been known...02:34
coronermeaning, they wont expand the menus within, any ideas what just happened?02:34
thoreauputiccoroner:  killall gnome-panel sometimes fixes it02:35
=== SeFoKumA [~zienaga@44.Red-81-44-205.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu
coronerwill it start automatically again ?02:35
thoreauputiccoroner: don't worry, it regenerates02:35
=== odeez [~zeedo@www.bsrf.org.uk] has joined #ubuntu
tanarihow can I reinstall soundcard drivers?02:35
GarySavedThat is mostly what my wife uses the computer for, printing graphics from the net.02:35
BurgundaviaGarySaved: can you print the same documents from another application?02:36
=== StoffBox-Steve hope File-Roller can extract a Mass of files at one time ...
GarySavedYes.  THat is what she is having to do.02:36
coronerthoreauputic, i opened the root terminal and typed in gnome-panel to load it again, but apon closing the terminal the panels disappear again02:38
thoreauputiccoroner: why the root terminal?02:38
thoreauputicyou can't run gnome-panel as root02:39
thoreauputicit runs as your user02:39
Burgundaviacoroner: save everything you are working on. This hit ctrl-atl-bksp to restart your X server02:39
coroneralright cheers02:39
coronerhow do i swap between workspaces without the panel ?02:39
Burgundavias/this/then02:39
GarySavedI installed a couple games, but they were not put in the Games menu.  How can I put them there?02:40
=== bumperland [~bumper@69-162-201-196.bflony.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu
Burgundaviacoroner: restarting X will restart gnome and thus your panel02:40
thaytancoroner: ctrl-alt-left/right/up/down02:40
Burgundaviacoroner: ctrl-alt-(left or right arrow)02:40
coroneralright cheers ill give it a go02:40
=== phantomdata [~phantomda@astound-64-83-234-38.mn.astound.net] has joined #Ubuntu
phantomdataHmm.  I apologize for coming in and just asking a question straight off; but in order to install any Window Managers (Say, fluxbox or Window Maker) - do I need to select a special apt repository for Ubuntu?02:41
=== lizdeika [~lizdeika@mail.northway.lt] has joined #ubuntu
phantomdataNeither of those seem to show up in the default list.02:41
=== ostap [~ostap@p5080464A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu
jdubphantomdata: enable universe02:42
jdubnote that anything in universe is unsupported02:42
=== palfi [~richard@chello062178190057.2.15.vie.surfer.at] has left #ubuntu []
=== tanari [~inandrei@217-159-175-199-dsl.kvm.estpak.ee] has left #ubuntu []
marcin_antjdub: hi02:42
phantomdataah, got it.02:42
marcin_antjdub: I got your mail about website contest winners...02:42
phantomdatajdub: Just remembered about sources.list, and decided to check it on the offchance that itw as documented.  :)02:43
=== KingTong is now known as TongMaster
phantomdatajdub: Heh, I've got Ubuntu installed on a P133 w/ 48M/RAM.  Suffice it to say, it's a tad slow with Gnome.02:43
=== freebase [~freebase@h241n3fls306o1124.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu
marcin_antjdub: nice projects, but is there a chance to see other submissions? (just curious)02:43
haydenwhen i close the lid on my laptop it goes to a full-screen command line prompt, how do i make it stay as it was when i close the lid?02:43
jdubmarcin_ant: probably not02:44
jdubhayden: it should flick back to X when you open the lid; if it doesn't, it's a bug02:44
=== gilles [~gilles@lab75-3-82-235-26-179.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu
haydenhmm ok02:44
haydenill see if it does02:44
phantomdatahayden: Just on the offchance that you don't know... you can hit ctrl-alt-f7 to return to X.02:44
GarySavedWhat package do I install to use Java apps in my browser?02:44
phantomdatajdub: Thank you for the suggestion.  :)  Fluxbox is installing right now, I appreciate your help.02:45
haydenthanks phantomdata (im a noob :P)02:45
phantomdatai've been using Gentoo for awhile; I had forgotten the speed of package based distributions.02:45
thaytanjdub: such a bug exists, intermittently02:45
thoreauputicGarySaved: I suggest you read http://ubuntuguide.org (lots of good info there)02:45
theinephantom: both windowmaker and fluxbox are in the universe repository02:45
freebasei cant apt-get ..password?02:45
haydendoesn't gentoo use emerge?02:45
Burgundaviafreebase: the password they are asking for is yours02:46
GarySavedO.K.02:46
phantomdatahayden: Yup.  :)  Nice little system, but it takes its time.02:46
haydenyea02:46
haydenthanks for the help i'm off to sleep02:46
=== hayden is now known as hayden-away
freebaseBurgundavia, no they arent asking. just have no rights02:47
phantomdataWell, off I go.  :)02:47
CarlKGen.erly too much effort ;)02:47
Burgundaviafreebase: are you saying that you can't use sudo at all?02:47
lizdeikaany chances to have ati's proprietary drivers version 8.10.19 soon ?02:47
danielslizdeika: no, we are in upstream version freeze02:47
freebaseBurgundavia, ty "sudo" was that i was looking for02:48
lizdeikawhat ? :)02:48
lizdeikahoary freezed ?02:48
jdubthaytan: (i *think* thom just fixed it, not sure)02:48
=== coroner [~coroner@CPE20320884-1707-5.CMTS01.MQL.ncable.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
coronera system reboot seemed needed. apon trying to get back into gnome when it went to load nautilus etc at the gnome 2.8 loading screen nothing would load, just sat there hanging. i rebooted and it loaded up02:50
thoreauputiclizdeika: I guess it has to freeze sometime - it's due to go stable in April02:50
=== iceaxe18 [~iceaxe18@c-24-18-111-235.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
Burgundaviacoroner: most of the time it is only your X server that is frozen. Always try c-a-bk before you try and reboot the machine02:51
lizdeikagonna fil-in huge bug report later. i think there will be some unfreeze02:51
coronerokay, ill google that command and find out what it does02:52
thoreauputiclizdeika: well, bugs are being killed still, I'm sure :)02:52
=== bradb [~bradb@modemcable065.154-81-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu
lizdeikai think ati's drivers are causing that bug02:52
Myrttiyeah, security updates02:53
=== HiddenWolf [~hidde@136.15.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu
StoffBox-Steveis there a why to extract more than one .zip file at once ? --- or it going to be a long long day ..^^02:55
=== Mirv [~tajyrink@Mirv.active.supporter.pdpc] has left #ubuntu []
snowblinkStoffBox-Steve: unzip *.zip ?02:56
thaytanStoffBox-Steve: for dude in *.zip; do unzip $dude; done02:56
=== Kaww [z@85.96.82.162] has joined #ubuntu
=== mxpxpod [~bryan@wuw-ojr3gmca.dybb.com] has joined #ubuntu
Kawwwww.otomotivshow.com02:57
=== Kaww [z@85.96.82.162] has left #ubuntu []
StoffBox-Steve:D thx ... was to easy for me .. * i hate easythings cant get them in my brain *lol*02:57
HiddenWolfthaytan: do you enjoy complicating your life? :)02:57
=== png` [~png@81.213.176.217] has joined #ubuntu
thaytanHiddenWolf: whenever I can02:58
lizdeikahehe02:58
=== joaocruz [~joao@ip68-0-220-224.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== leonel [~leonel@dsl-200-78-65-60.prod-infinitum.com.mx] has joined #ubuntu
StoffBox-Stevehmmmm03:00
StoffBox-Steve$ unzip *.zip03:00
StoffBox-SteveArchive:  brush_102.zip03:00
StoffBox-Stevecaution: filename not matched:  brush_107.zip03:00
kentStoffBox-Steve, try to rename it brush_107.zip and see if it unzips..  you or some one might have mistakenly downloaded wrong file03:02
thaytanStoffBox-Steve: try my way :)03:03
=== mxpxpod is now known as mx|gone
thaytanunzip brush_102.zip brush_107.zip means 'get me brush_107.zip out of the brush_102.zip file'03:03
StoffBox-Stevei can extract them over nautilus .. i testet that03:04
=== airox [~airox@airox.user] has joined #ubuntu
thaytanone at a time, you mean?03:04
airoxAnybody has experience with GPRS and ppp with a bluetooth connected mobile phone ?03:05
airoxI can send modem commands with minicom03:05
airoxAnd also do: ATDT*99***1#03:05
=== joaocruz [~joao@ip68-0-220-224.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu
StoffBox-Stevejup03:05
StoffBox-Stevei test it with the first one03:05
thaytanStoffBox-Steve: seriously, open a terminal and run my line03:06
thaytanfor dude in *.zip; do unzip $dude; done03:06
thaytanthat'll run unzip once for every zip file03:06
snowblinkStoffBox-Steve: believe thaytan03:06
StoffBox-Steveso you mean try > unzip $brush ?03:07
=== netpuppy [~mark@x1-6-00-00-24-c3-7a-dc.k497.webspeed.dk] has joined #ubuntu
snowblinkStoffBox-Steve: for file in *.zip; do unzip $file; done03:07
thoreauputicStoffBox-Steve: what you call it doesn't really matter03:08
thaytanno, I mean " for dude in *.zip; do unzip $dude; done" as a command03:08
=== njan [~james@james.user] has joined #ubuntu
=== will [~will@1-1-7-19a.ars.sth.bostream.se] has joined #ubuntu
=== abelli [~abelli@host-84-222-39-20.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #ubuntu
=== mz2 [~mz@81-1-75-195.homechoice.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu
=== remon [~remon@210-64-dsl.ipact.nl] has joined #ubuntu
=== Mikkel_robin [~mikkel_ro@cpe.atm2-0-51336.0x50a0b962.odnxx5.customer.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu
=== NetwrkMonkey [~Monkey@netwrkmonkey.user] has joined #ubuntu
=== Mikkel_robin [~mikkel_ro@cpe.atm2-0-51336.0x50a0b962.odnxx5.customer.tele.dk] has left #ubuntu []
theinehas anybody tried to set up the Java Media Framework for use in Openoffice 2.0?03:14
HiddenWolftheine: possible, but stressy03:14
=== trygvebw [~trygvebw@217-131-213.adsl.tele2.no] has joined #ubuntu
=== Ivy6Quaff [~Sir@c906a0a6.virtua.com.br] has joined #ubuntu
theineHiddenWolf: Are there any plans to make it less stressy in the near future?03:16
HiddenWolftheine: not possible, no free java, remember?03:16
trygvebwHi, which package contains the C include file "limits.h"? Configure is complaining that it can't find it.03:16
membreyaok well switched myself over to galeon browser :)03:16
membreyaimpressed with it so far03:16
theinevaguely...03:17
=== miri [~miri@213.235.124.50] has joined #ubuntu
=== drspin [~cole@ip68-3-211-180.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== elec [~chatzilla@200.119.43.155] has joined #ubuntu
drspinanyone from Arizona in the US?03:17
HiddenWolftheine: the only way for that to happen is sun to open source java, or redhat to finish developing a replacement03:17
=== miri [~miri@213.235.124.50] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
theineHiddenWolf: I begin to wonder whether JMF was such a great choice for Openoffice 2.003:21
=== t325 [~t325@adsl-62-167-101-4.adslplus.ch] has joined #ubuntu
=== Mts [~matsmaxx@mail.morvillo.com.ar] has joined #ubuntu
HiddenWolftheine: join the club03:24
=== CodyC [~crawford@216-54-133-190.gen.twtelecom.net] has joined #ubuntu
trygvebwAnyone?03:25
=== NetwrkMonkey [~Monkey@netwrkmonkey.user] has joined #ubuntu
=== remon [~remon@210-64-dsl.ipact.nl] has left #ubuntu []
=== tranceConscious [user@217.19.75.254] has joined #ubuntu
=== NetwrkMonkey [~Monkey@netwrkmonkey.user] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
=== kalden [~kalden@11.212-200-80.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu
=== Xappe [~jon@regulus3.student.UU.SE] has joined #ubuntu
tranceConsciousi have just upgraded from warty to hary with synaptic, but i got a 640x480 screen resolution and in the list of available resolutions there is no other. how do i fix that???03:27
tranceConsciousto hoary03:28
=== stevehoad [~sh@212.110.7.80] has joined #ubuntu
=== thesilverhand [~matt@YahooBB218182236046.bbtec.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== stevehoad [~sh@212.110.7.80] has left #ubuntu []
tranceConsciouscan someone help ???03:29
wezzerhi03:29
wezzerjust a quick question03:29
=== stevehoad [~sh@212.110.7.80] has joined #ubuntu
StoffBox-Stevei think you have to configure the Xserver .. you run Xorg now not Xfree .. try  dpkg-reconfuigure xserver-xorg03:30
=== BBlto [~XWsDT@193.219.91.133] has joined #ubuntu
wezzercan scp return a transfer?03:30
airoxtranceConscious: Checked if you can adjust the resolution with Computer -> System Configuration -> Changing Screen Resolution03:30
wezzerlets say I've downloaded 100MB of file and scp gots time up03:30
airox(or something like that)03:30
wezzercan I continue downloading from that 100MB or do I have to download whole file again?03:30
tranceConsciousairox: i tried that but the list only shows 640x48003:30
airoxThen try StoffBox-Steve's solution.03:31
wezzeranyone?03:31
thesilverhandtranceConscious: you need to edit xorg.conf03:31
membreyaanyone here run the fireflies screen saver?03:31
=== eruin [~eruin@eruin.user] has joined #ubuntu
=== CorvusZz [Corvus@85.86.233.133] has joined #ubuntu
GarySavedHey!  I got it working.  I have Java running here.03:32
airoxQ: Does upgrading to hoary break many configuration things ? And does it include many new and improved things ?03:32
=== Dutchy [~NNSCRIPT@ipd50ae694.speed.planet.nl] has joined #ubuntu
=== ORlI [~Rayddqpi@202.141.238.134] has joined #ubuntu
=== egli [~egli@gate.wyona.com] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
thesilverhandtranceConscious: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf find Section "Monitor"03:34
=== stevehoad [~sh@212.110.7.80] has left #ubuntu []
=== kalden is now known as kalden_
shockso... europe probably has softwarepatents now....03:34
airox:(03:35
GarySavedairox, I just did it, and all my settings were fine.03:35
shocki guess ill open a soap buisiness03:35
shock:P03:35
airoxGarySaved: Great!03:35
shock(just watched fightclub)03:35
airoxThen I'll be upgrading in a few moments :)03:35
thesilverhandtranceConscious: add the lines "HorizSync 28-49" (without quotes) and "VertRefresh 43-72" (no quotes)03:35
airoxCould somebody name some nice features that are in hoary (or it's packages) ?03:36
=== Modpaybu [~OWFNWCth@dsl81-215-36369.adsl.ttnet.net.tr] has joined #ubuntu
airoxCause I have to be convinced to upgrade :)03:36
mjrhttp://mjr.iki.fi/texts/patentfund03:36
=== mikep [~mikep@c-24-0-3-105.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
airoxDoes gnome vfs ftp for example work in binary mode in hoary ?03:37
snowblinkairox: why do you want to upgrade?03:37
airoxTo get more features available, but it has to be stable though :)03:37
Xappehmm, seems that the connection to the ubuntu repos are REALLY slow for me right now...03:39
Xappe*is03:39
membreyaXappe: so change your mirror03:40
Xappewell, I usually get speeds of around 600 kB/s, so I think i'll w8 for a while03:42
kentAm I the only one that does not see the notice about the winner of the webpagecontest in the news section of the main homepage of Ubuntu? If i click the "more news" links, i can see it. But since it has a newer date than the CeBit news that is on top when I browse the main page, shouldn't the notice about the contest be on top then?03:42
=== kalden [~kalden@11.212-200-80.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu
Xappeoh, cool...seems that I now have gnome 2.10.003:44
=== farruinn [~nathan@cpe-69-201-9-239.twcny.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
farruinnhow do I set commands to run in the /usr/share/xsessions/* files?03:46
=== maikrohvt [~mycroft@nohik.net] has joined #ubuntu
farruinnfor example, I want gnome-settings-daemon to run in things like fluxbox and enlightenment03:47
farruinnI tried adding Exec=gnome-settings-daemon & to the end of the file, but it didn't work03:48
maikrohvtI was wondering, i orderd ubuntu 1 week ago, how long it will take it to arrive ?03:48
njanmaikrohvt, it took at least a month for me03:48
maikrohvtok03:48
snowblinkmaikrohvt: You may have to wait until mid-april if you missed the end of feb03:48
=== CorvusZz is now known as Corvus
=== apokryphos77 is now known as apokryphos
=== Kbxuijr [~Vdcee@202.141.238.134] has joined #ubuntu
=== Twiggy [~Twiggy@192.77.143.161] has joined #ubuntu
TwiggyAnybody else having trouble connecting to the apt server?03:50
Twiggyarchive.ubuntu.com03:50
=== meuserj|work [~meuserj|w@65.243.209.81] has joined #ubuntu
mikepTwiggy: A little slow but worked using update and upgrade.03:52
=== joaocruz [~joao@ip68-0-220-224.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu
njanTwiggy, it just worked fine for me03:52
TwiggyHmph03:53
TwiggyMust be a geographical thing, this happened a few days ago too03:53
=== Nermal [~pprior@pc2.packadsl.ftech.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu
TwiggyAlways happens when I need to grab something off it too ;oD03:53
=== Twiggy kicks neofeed
Twiggya'soh03:53
Nermalhar03:53
=== Twiggy kicks Nermal instead
njanTwiggy, have you checked whether or not you can resolve it, and if so, what traceroute looks like?03:53
njanTwiggy, you may be able to pin the problem down to a specific router / network segment03:54
Twiggynjan:  I'd blame it on a shatty connection, our LAN has been flaky the last few days03:54
TwiggyNo worries, I'll give it a go again in a few hours03:54
njan:)03:54
njankick your netadmin :)03:55
njanI'm sure if he's anything like me he'll be happy to kick you back :p03:55
membreyahmmm can someone help me with conflicting version of GCC?03:55
=== Twiggy goes off to kick his admin
=== stuNNed_ is now known as stuNNed
XappeTwiggy, can you kick my network admin too? seems like I suffer from the same problem right now, feels like packetloss because it's the initialization of trasfers that is really slow...03:58
thesilverhandTwiggy, Xappe: same thing here03:58
=== derJunior [~derJunior@pD952FB7E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== Cl [~noob@AFontenayssB-151-1-38-194.w83-114.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu
SiRrUsI see a few of us are having trouble connecting to get updates03:59
membreyamine's fine SiRrUs :)03:59
=== Twiggy goes off to kick Xappe's admin
=== x4m [~max@168.159-200-80.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu
SiRrUsmembreya your a lucky one then04:00
=== Mitario [~michiel@sikkes.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu
membreyasecurity.ubuntu seems slow though..my mirror is speedy as normal :)04:00
=== Dr_Ace_Work [~dr_ace@washdc3-ar8-4-62-073-051.washdc3.dsl-verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== Kjaer [~kresten@ip91.vejen-net.dk] has joined #ubuntu
membreyawanna help me with conflicting GCC's SiRrUs ? :P04:02
=== dmouritsendk [~dmouritse@81.161.154.153] has joined #ubuntu
=== orospakr [~orospakr@ip-70.80.126.206.dsl-cust.ca.inter.net] has joined #ubuntu
membreyaguess not :(04:04
Twiggymembreya:  Whats the problem04:04
dmouritsendkdoes the ubuntu installer support lvm? (for example, can i tell it to use a logical volume as /usr or what ever)04:05
membreyaTwiggy: gcc -v gives 3.4.4 yet cat /proc/version gives gcc version 3.3.504:06
=== tranceConscious [user@217.19.75.254] has left #ubuntu []
Twiggymembreya:  Did you compile one of them from scratch?04:06
membreyayup04:06
TwiggyWell don't do that :oP04:06
TwiggyUninstall the compiled one04:06
=== membreya has learnt his lesson
membreyaerm :|04:06
=== looksaus [~looksaus@83-134-125-71.Leuven.GoPlus.FastDSL.tiscali.be] has joined #ubuntu
TwiggyCheck if it's compiled to /usr/local/bin04:07
membreyanope04:07
TwiggyIf it is, ./configure --prefix=/usr/local && sudo make uninstall04:07
TwiggyHmm04:07
looksauswhat's wrong with archive.ubuntu.com?04:07
Twiggylooksaus:  Little slow today04:07
=== Telep [~telep@dsl-tregw3hb8.dial.inet.fi] has left #ubuntu []
membreyaTwiggy: it compiled to /usr/bin04:07
=== ssam [~chatzilla@dsl-80-41-113-245.access.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu
looksausit was always super fast04:07
looksauspity04:08
Twiggymembreya:  Then do that, and reinstall the .deb with synaptic after you've uninstalled the compiled one04:08
membreyaand if I try to use synaptic to remove it, i get messages saying lots of apps will be removed04:08
Twiggylooksaus:  Bad days happen04:08
=== Twiggy kicks looksaus' network admin
Twiggymembreya:  Just mark it for reinstallation04:08
=== Xmpzsys [~Mndeo@85-250-77-136.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ubuntu
membreyalooksaus: just change your mirror :)04:08
looksausouch, I'm my own network admin04:08
=== Twiggy retracts the kick
membreyalol04:08
TwiggyMatrix style04:09
TwiggywEWt04:09
membreyaso mark 3.4 to reinstall? ...but how do I get rid of 3.3? :P04:09
TwiggyIn the source dir, ./configure --prefix=/usr && sudo make uninstall04:09
TwiggyAfter you do that, mark the .deb for reinstallation04:09
Cldid anyone try yoper?04:10
=== Echylo [~Echylo@211.161-201-80.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu
Echylohello04:11
Echylothoreauputic, you there?04:11
membreyaTwiggy: so I need to redownloaded gcc 3.4 ..compile it with the uninstall ?04:11
Twiggymembreya:  Nonono, first go into the source dir, and execute: ./configure --prefix=/usr && sudo make uninstall04:12
dmouritsendkcan anybody tell me if ubuntu's installer support lvm volume groups and logical volumes?04:12
membreyawell I don't HAVE the source anymore :P04:12
Twiggymembreya:  That will uninstall it, but to make sure you don't uninstall anything not wanted, go back and mark gcc for reinstallation in synaptic so that it cleans up any loose ends04:12
Twiggymembreya:  Ooooh, yeah, then you gotta go get it :oD04:13
=== membreya is so confused
membreyaall I want to do is get my system to report that gcc 3.4 is the one to use04:13
looksaushm, seems like dist-upgrading will have to wait a few days04:13
looksausor at least, hours04:13
=== looksaus [~looksaus@83-134-125-71.Leuven.GoPlus.FastDSL.tiscali.be] has left #ubuntu ["Looksaus]
=== Kjaer [~kresten@ip91.vejen-net.dk] has left #ubuntu []
=== parazoid [~parazoid@port915.ds1-he.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu
=== parazoid [~parazoid@port915.ds1-he.adsl.cybercity.dk] has left #ubuntu ["O_o"]
membreyaTwiggy: is there any way to to cheat to tell my system that it's using gcc 3.4? see I cheated when I compiled it and just cp'd the gcc3-4 to gcc :P04:16
Echyloquestion, I use ez-ipupdate to update my dyndns account, but when it tries to update my IP it replies my 10.0.0.1 the adress of my computer, I noticed that PPPoE_1 has the correct IP but it doesn't recognizes that as a device04:16
bob2PPoE_1 isn't an interface on linux04:17
bob2do you mean ppp0?04:17
Echyloowke04:17
Echylomaybe it's that04:17
mikepi used dist-upgrade Saturday and upgraded to kernel 2.6.8.1-5-386 without any problems.04:17
farruinnhow do I create "startup items" for non-gnome xsessions?04:18
farruinneg I want gnome-settings-daemon to run in things like fluxbox etc04:18
=== smo [~soneil@smo.active.supporter.pdpc] has joined #ubuntu
=== Snr [~kaizu@cs166195.pp.htv.fi] has joined #ubuntu
=== Gman [~Glynn@amfea-proxy-1.sun.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== marcin_ant [~marcin@www.e-dev.tele2.pl] has joined #ubuntu
bob2farruinn: ~/.xsession04:19
bob2create it04:19
bob2run whatever commands you want in there04:20
bob2(with a trailing &)04:20
bob2the last line should be "exec fluxbox"04:20
farruinnbob2: ok, but there's already a fluxbox.desktop in /usr/share/xsessions04:20
farruinncan I just tack on what I want there?04:21
bob2blah04:21
=== tritium [~rimbert@ee213-dhcp-4.ecn.purdue.edu] has joined #ubuntu
bob2possibly04:21
bob2the gdm session stuff is annoying04:21
farruinnheheh, I'll see if I can make sense of it then04:21
Echylobob2, It won't work04:24
Echylothe ppp0 interface04:24
=== MaxD [~max@commons10k2.mo24.107.109.21.charter-stl.com] has joined #ubuntu
dmouritsendkmembreya: i'm note sure i understand you correctly, but if you just want to have /proc/version to read gcc 3.4 you need to recompile the kernel with gcc 3.4 (or get a kernel compiled with 3.4). the gcc listed in /proc/version is simply the version of gcc used to compile the kernel.04:24
Echyloand when I use eth0 it updates wrong04:24
=== WneflcqrW [Nbctopy@resnet158-137.medford.tufts.edu] has joined #ubuntu
Echyloand ifconfig only recognizes 2 devices04:25
Echyloeth0 & l004:25
=== Kawwz [zz@85.99.29.61] has joined #ubuntu
membreyadmouritsendk: ok then ...but doing a ./configure on a package the config.log shows configure:1354: g++ --version </dev/null >&504:26
membreyag++ (GCC) 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-8ubuntu2)04:26
Kawwzwww.otomotivshow.com   WEBSITE HOSTING RESELLER DOMAIN04:26
membreyaand reads the 3.3.5 specs04:26
=== Kawwz [zz@85.99.29.61] has left #ubuntu []
membreyabut then later on reads the 3.4.404:26
=== mode/#ubuntu [+o bob2] by ChanServ
=== mode/#ubuntu [+b *!*@85.99.29.61] by bob2
=== mode/#ubuntu [-o bob2] by bob2
marcin_anthi all04:27
membreyawow....bob2 is scary :)04:27
bob2Echylo: so...you have a dsl modem, which is doing the connecting, and your machine connects to that via ethernet?04:27
marcin_antI got sony ericsson k700i cell phone - does anyone know how to get access to it's ftp server via obex from ubuntu?04:28
dmouritsendkmembreya, maybe you have a different version installed somewhere in /usr (the 3.3.5 one)?04:28
bob2membreya: what have you done to gcc on your machine?04:28
=== zbrown [~suifur@suifur.linuxfordummies] has joined #ubuntu
membreyabob2: got two versions running :|04:28
Echyloyes bob2 :)04:28
=== schasi [~schasi@pD95E3B99.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu
membreyadmouritsendk: /usr/bin has gcc 3.3.5 and 3.4.404:28
bob2membreya: both from packages?04:28
bob2you really shouldn't be screwing the way you are04:29
=== vincent_ [~vincent@bonnefoy-3-82-224-105-22.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu
membreyabob2: it was weeks ago, can't recall if I compiled 3.4.4 or not04:29
bob2just tell whatever program this is to use gcc-3.404:29
=== PUNCHMEGOT [PUNCHMEGOT@host81-157-31-108.range81-157.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu
membreyait's marked as installed in synaptic though04:29
membreyaand I can't remove 3.3.5 in synaptic..it gives me just about every program will be removed04:29
dmouritsendkmembreya, how does it differentiate between them? do they have unique names, also is there a gcc symlink somewhere and if so which one does it point at?04:30
goldfishhttp://uploads.thawall.net/pics/funnies/retard_macs.jpg04:30
bob2membreya: seriously, don't overwrite stuff04:30
dmouritsendkmembreya, are you sure ubuntu supports (im currently not a ubuntu user) 3.4?04:30
=== zbrown is now known as |rufius|
bob2if you really insist on playing the omg lolz new gcc game, install it in a different prefix04:31
bob2or under a different name04:31
bob2dmouritsendk: it's in the archive, but not the default04:31
membreyawell gcc -v used to give 3.3.5 so someone in #linux suggested that I just cp gcc3-4 to gcc04:31
bob2oh god04:31
membreyashould I just cp gcc3-3 back?04:31
bob2jesus04:31
membreyatell me about it bob2 ...I've learnt a lot since then :(04:31
bob2if you remember who it was, please tell me so I can beat them up04:31
membreyamaybe this is why I'm getting lots of errors in my compiles :P04:32
bob2shockingly04:32
dmouritsendkok, shouldn't he just be able to upgrade the 3.3 to the 3.4 from the archive?04:32
Echylook bob2 i'll explain again in one line :), I have a dsl modem, which does the connecting, and my computer connects to that via ethernet card(eth0) when I try to update with ez-ipupdate it replies the ip of my computer(10.0.0.1) instead of my real one04:32
bob2randomly overwriting binaries is never a good idea04:33
jesus\hmm, I have no sound when playing .swf files, but my sound is working with rhythmbox. How do I configure the flash sounds settings?04:33
bob2dmouritsendk: no04:33
membreyasynaptic says 3.3 and 3.4 are both installed04:33
bob2dmouritsendk: what he/she should have done is install the gcc-3.4 package and configure whatever source it is to build with gcc-3.404:33
bob2membreya: your system is screwed04:33
membreyaremoving either of the 3.X bases will kill a lot of programs04:33
goldfishfem04:33
bob2membreya: reinstall all of gcc04:33
GetI got errors like this when i try to compile mplayer, why? :04:33
Get/usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.a(glxcmds.o)(.text+0x2eea): In function `glXGetMscRateOML':: undefined reference to `XF86VidModeQueryVersion'04:33
bob2membreya: and in future, don't listen to morons who advise you to overwrite stuff04:33
Get/usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.a(glxcmds.o)(.text+0x2f1a): In function `glXGetMscRateOML':: undefined reference to `XF86VidModeGetModeLine'04:33
=== jojo_ [~jojo@gw.ptr-80-238-217-246.customer.ch.netstream.com] has joined #ubuntu
bob2Get: are you using the nvidia binary drivers?04:34
Getbob2: the ubuntu default?04:34
membreyawilldo bob2...doing a "reinstall" on gcc3.304:34
bob2Get: no04:34
bob2Echylo: it doesn't have an option to select which interface it uses?04:34
membreyagcc -v gives 3.3.5 again :D04:35
=== [Zenith] [~dsfa@alesund-dhcp-242-4.bluecom.no] has joined #ubuntu
Getbob2: I use them in the ubuntu package system..04:35
membreyahmmm I can't remove 3.4 though :'(04:35
Echylono :)04:36
dmouritsendkbob2, ok. so you still need 3.3 installed besides it or ?04:36
[Zenith] How can i make my mp3 files automaticly start in XMMS?04:36
Echyloit works with a .conf file04:36
bob2dmouritsendk: not really04:36
=== Goshawk [~Goshawk@host144-106.pool8253.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu
=== vtg [vertigo@2001:888:11a7:0:260:8ff:fec9:effb] has joined #ubuntu
=== pussfeller [~yootis@ppp-69-208-144-143.dsl.ipltin.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu
bob2but it's far easier04:37
bob2Echylo: oh, wait04:37
=== pepsi [~pepsi@72-254-7-123.client.stsn.net] has joined #ubuntu
bob2Echylo: you're being nat'd by the modem?04:37
Echyloyes04:37
Echylonapt04:37
=== BobaFett [~felipe@pc-16-44-83-200.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu
Echylonetwork adress port translation or something like that04:37
=== michael [~michael@pD9E5D5F9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu
BobaFettHey guys...Anyone knows hoy to join an Ubuntu team? I wanna help...04:38
dmouritsendkbob2, why isn't it possible to upgrade 3.3 to the one from the archive then?04:38
michaeldisconnect04:38
BobaFettI couldnt find info on the website04:38
membreyaI would prefer to run 3.4 as my GCC as it fixes a few of the ICE errors ...but I would prefer to clean everything up first04:38
Echylobobafett I'm interested in that too, like to translate things to dutch04:38
bob2dmouritsendk: it's not "upgrading"04:38
BobaFettId like to help with translations and eye candy :)04:38
bob2dmouritsendk: they're seperate packages04:38
BobaFettBut couldnt find the application form or such04:38
bob2BobaFett: there's lots of info on the website04:39
membreyaif I choose to remove gcc3.4 I get that it's going to remove galeon, mozilla, and my thunderbird stuff04:39
bob2membreya: no04:39
BobaFettbob2: All I found was how to help with the wiki, commands, debugging, compiling...all things I cant do :(04:39
bob2membreya: do you mean "gcc-3.4-base"?04:39
membreyayes04:39
bob2BobaFett: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Teams04:39
AcidWolfcant wait to see what Ubuntu 6.04 Perky Penguin looks like04:39
bob2membreya: you don't want to remove that04:40
EchyloBob2, you know a solution?04:40
bob2membreya: the only thing you care about is gcc-3.4 and friends04:40
dmouritsendkbob2, aaah. gotcha :p04:40
BobaFettbob2: checking...thanks a bunch!04:40
bob2Echylo: I've never used it, sorry04:40
Echylook04:40
Echylothanks anyway04:40
bluefoxicysetting up acpi-support hanged04:40
=== michael [~michael@pD9E5D5F9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu
bluefoxicyand I had to kill it04:40
=== oly [~oly@host81-157-160-74.range81-157.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu
membreyabob2: so leave gcc-3.4-base but remove gcc-3.4 and gcc-3.4-doc?04:40
bluefoxicyand synaptic won't finish it so I ahve to apt-get install to finish the thing.04:40
=== Skwid_ [~Skwid@stlaurent-1-82-228-247-28.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== dims [~dima@rrba-146-92-177.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu
=== beyond is now known as beyond-bbc
olyhi, i have 3 computers here running hoary, the network shares work on all but 104:41
dmouritsendkbob2, btw. can you tell me if the ubuntu installer supports lvm?04:41
olythat one computer can not see its own network file shares let alone any other computers seeing them04:41
olyhas anyone an suggestions as possible causes04:42
membreyaoly: tried going to a terminal and doing an /etc/init.d/samba start04:42
=== neofeed [~moritz@pD9575017.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu
membreyaI had a problem where my samba wasn't automatically starting04:42
=== vtg [~vtg@2001:888:11a7:0:260:8ff:fec9:effb] has joined #ubuntu
=== shuerlimann [~shuerlima@212-41-111-170.adsl.solnet.ch] has joined #ubuntu
dimsHi, can anyone help to set up APC smart UPS on UBUNTU ?04:42
olythat has made no difference04:43
=== Suvroc [Corvus@85.86.233.133] has joined #ubuntu
olyi would think its running anyway, because that computer can see the other two04:43
=== airox [~airox@airox.user] has joined #ubuntu
olyjust not its own shared files04:43
Goshawkis there somebody that can try this script and send me results? http://81.113.230.186/kalatlug/Projects/usplash/test-script.sh04:44
airoxDoes anybody know if there is an xfree86 configuration option to move the screen some pixels to the left ??04:44
membreyaoly do a sudo testparm04:44
Chipzzairox: you can insert your own modelines in xorg.conf04:44
olydone that04:45
=== michael [~michael@pD9E5D5F9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu
olyServer role: ROLE_STANDALONE04:45
airoxChipzz: I don't have x.org :)04:45
olyis that correct ?04:45
airoxBut it would be the same I guess ?04:45
Chipzzairox: or XF86Config-404:45
olyit dont sound like it to me at least :p04:45
airoxChipzz: ok04:45
membreyayup04:45
Chipzzairox: use xvidtune04:45
=== geeky_bodhi [~bodhi@61.16.150.118] has joined #ubuntu
Chipzzairox: but why not just use the controls on your monitor?04:46
airoxChipzz: It's a laptop, it doesn't have those controls :(04:46
membreyahmmm all these updates are coming out for gnome apps with 2.1004:46
Chipzzairox: oh04:46
membreyadoes that means we're close to a stable release? :)04:46
Chipzz*sigh*04:47
goldfishlol04:47
Xappemembreya, I checked the "about gnome" in the system menu...it says 2.10.004:47
Xappe:)04:47
membreyahmmm guess I need to reboot04:47
membreyawooooo stable release :D04:47
olytestparm actually returns this on the share04:48
olyparams.c:Sections() - Empty section name in configuration file04:48
=== membreya [~membreya@c211-28-78-53.sunsh3.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
airoxChipzz: That xvidtune doesn't have such an option like moving the screen 5pixels to the left04:49
=== Suvroc is now known as Corvus
airoxSo I should make some modelines ?04:49
Chipzzairox: no, xvidtune is a gui app04:49
dimsHi, can anyone help to set up APC smart UPS on UBUNTU ?04:49
airoxChipzz: I have run xvidtune04:50
=== coroner [~coroner@CPE20320884-1707-5.CMTS01.MQL.ncable.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
jesus\my flashmovies don't have sound :/04:50
airoxI can't move the screen, only make it narrower and bigeer etc04:50
Chipzzairox: click the buttons labeled "left" and "right"04:51
=== wobbler [wayne@wobbler.active.supporter.pdpc] has joined #ubuntu
=== TheRocco [~lukas@TELEKOM136.kfunigraz.ac.at] has joined #ubuntu
airoxThen the screen get's all messed up :S04:51
=== membreya [~membreya@c211-28-78-53.sunsh3.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
TheRoccowhat does "cant access procfs/sysfs file" mean?04:52
jesus\how can i have no process "esd" of "polyp" running and still have sound?04:52
Chipzzairox: it's not garanteed to work :S04:53
Chipzzit doesn' have much effect on my laptop04:53
=== smo [~soneil@smo.active.supporter.pdpc] has left #ubuntu ["Carpe]
=== dims [~dima@rrba-146-92-177.telkomadsl.co.za] has left #ubuntu []
=== jinty [~jinty@28.Red-83-44-82.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu
membreyabob2: did you answer my question before about the base?04:54
ChipzzI guess it's mostly made for CRTs04:55
Chipzzjesus\: you are using oss for sound?04:55
Gethmm, I want to rip .ram to .mp3, what should I use?04:55
jesus\Chipzz:  no, alsa04:55
Chipzzjesus\: well, the app you're running uses alsa directly maybe?04:56
jesus\hmm04:56
=== Petteri [~petteri@a81-197-2-3.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu
=== craigaa [~craigaa@nngy-165-183-111.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu
=== nico2012 [~nico@if12v5-22.d4.club-internet.fr] has joined #ubuntu
jesus\the problem is this firefox plugin for flash04:58
jesus\I can't configure it, and I don't know how it is trying to play sounds04:58
jesus\all i know is i don't hear anything :)04:58
Chipzzyea, got the same problem04:59
=== fgx [~fgx@barlach.spin.it] has joined #ubuntu
Chipzzkillall esd fixes it04:59
jesus\i don't have esd running :|04:59
Chipzzbut then the rest of your desktop doesn't make sound anymore04:59
jesus\lol04:59
=== TheRocco [~lukas@TELEKOM136.kfunigraz.ac.at] has left #ubuntu ["Kopete]
=== subterrific [~jason@subterrific.net] has joined #ubuntu
AcidWolfwhats the commd to for me to upgrade dist from warty to hoary again  (i forget)05:01
=== qpid [~dfgdfgdfg@d463c125.datahighways.de] has joined #ubuntu
fgxhello05:02
fgxsomeone here using php on warty?05:03
=== leethax [~k3rnel@213.190.217.125] has joined #ubuntu
=== ironwolf [~ironwolf@c-24-6-169-124.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
goldfishi am fgx05:04
=== GadYh [Dtmghw@202.163.79.233] has joined #ubuntu
fgxgoldfish, which php version?05:04
=== oriol [~oriol@217.11.117.114] has joined #ubuntu
goldfishbut i am a n00b05:04
goldfishem05:04
goldfishdunno05:04
goldfishI am not on my oc now.05:05
goldfish*pc05:05
=== jinty [~jinty@20.Red-80-39-147.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== SiliconViper [~siliconvi@d205-250-111-241.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu
AcidWolfhow do i check which version im using05:08
AcidWolfcause for some weired reason it seems to think i have hoary already running O_o05:09
AcidWolfand can someone maybe help me to understand why these commands are not working for me05:09
oriolsomeboby knows what happens with hoary ppc and kmail? today there was an upgrade of kdelibs to the new version 3.4 and kmail says05:10
AcidWolfhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=12174 <--- these commands05:10
oriolsegmentation fault05:10
oriol(sorry)05:10
=== Petteri [~petteri@a81-197-2-3.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu
=== kezz [~blah@user-6557.l6.c1.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu
=== VR^ [VR@154-111.200-68.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== Petteri is now known as KeyTronic
=== hawke_ [~hawke@208.255.6.238] has joined #ubuntu
oriolthere is a site for the ubuntu bugs, like http://www.debian.org/Bugs/ on debian?05:12
=== thr1ce [User@24.231.145.73.gha.mi.chartermi.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== blizah [~stephen@12-217-47-230.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu
Tomcat_oriol: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/05:14
oriolthx05:14
=== Slaven [~gatubarn@h165n4fls31o1041.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== bretzel [~felix@modemcable128.237-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu
=== StoffBox-Steve [~steve@pD953231F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu
SlavenVLC crashes when I try to switch to full screen mode.05:16
=== LinuxJones [~LinuxJone@blk-222-206-208.eastlink.ca] has joined #ubuntu
=== IvyCQHome [~Sir@c906a0a6.virtua.com.br] has joined #ubuntu
=== _d4vid [~ehud@64.151.89.44] has joined #ubuntu
bretzelHi there, Is there KDE3.4 packages for Ubuntu ?05:16
thr1cewill I notice a big decrease in speed switching to ubuntu from slackware?05:16
=== no0tic [~no0tic@host4-27.pool8251.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu
Riddellbretzel: yes05:17
Riddellbretzel: arts and libs are in hoary05:17
Riddellbretzel: you can get the rest from  deb http://jasmine.19inch.net/~jr/away/kubuntu/ ./05:18
thr1ceno05:18
thr1ce3.3.205:18
kentthr1ce, if you run the same applications, no.. I cant see why you should.05:18
=== Parallax_ [~Pbl@39.red-213-231-94.user.auna.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== Montagh [~451@216.106.client.e-access.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
Xappedamnit, I just spilled coffee in my logitech keyboard05:20
olyhum, if i share files with nfs do they show up in network servers ?05:20
=== __d4vid [~ehud@triforum.com] has joined #ubuntu
olylike they do with samba05:20
oly?05:20
|rufius|oly, nope05:21
|rufius|unless you're port scanning for them05:21
StoffBox-SteveXappe, clean them and good is :)05:21
olyhow woudl you access them then ?05:21
hawke_Xappe: Was it Folger's coffee that you spilled in your Logitch keyboard?05:21
|rufius|oly, know the IP and set it up05:21
Xappe hawke, haha05:22
olywhat do i set it up with ?05:22
olyi have not used nfs at all05:22
olyno idea where to even start looking :p05:22
|rufius|oly, go to http://tldp.org05:22
=== rapha [~rapha@p54A09F5D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu
|rufius|search for the NFS tutorial05:22
Xappehawke_, the thing is that logitech keyboards are more expensive than the no name ones ;)05:23
olyokay, thxs |rufius|05:23
MyrttiXappe: not necessarily05:23
Xappelow profile keys (laptop style keys) and so on05:23
Myrttilogitech keyboards are the cheapest of the name brands05:23
thr1ce?05:24
StoffBox-Stevehey Xappe be happy Logitech keyboards hydrophobic05:24
hawke_Xappe: Aye, I understand...just teasing.  The one that really pissed me off was when I broke my Northgate Omnikey...they don't make them anymore... :-(05:24
Xappeyepp, they swirl around and creates a little pretective hydrophobic ball05:25
=== phi [~mail@wbs-146-129-139.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu
raphaHi all!05:25
=== phi is now known as reperire
=== oriol [~oriol@217.11.117.114] has left #ubuntu ["Me'n]
coroneris it possible to copy a / partition from one hdd to another and be used on the exact same system. for instance from a smaller hdd to a bigger one and keep the configuration ?05:26
=== pellix [~Pellix@217.11.117.114] has joined #ubuntu
=== blackfeet [~blackfeet@193.170.62.180] has joined #ubuntu
blackfeethi, first off all, sorry for my bad english, i've a view general questions about ubuntu05:27
StoffBox-Steveno you have to change the path .. why old : hda1  new: hb1 ....05:27
hawke_coroner: Yes05:27
Xappecoroner, if you switch places of the disks, then you should be fine05:27
thr1ceanyone use the 2.6.11 kernel + an ATI card ?05:27
hawke_coroner: you might have to rerun lilo or grub-install05:28
hawke_coroner: and if you don't change where the drive is connected, change /etc fstab and /boot/grub/menu.lst05:28
blackfeethas ubuntu a package management system like apt or gentoo portage?05:29
coronerahh no worries05:29
thr1ceapt05:29
Myrttiblackfeet: yes, apt.05:29
coronerits just now that im getting used to this os abit, i can see myself filling this 6gb quickly05:29
fgxi'd like to upgrade from php4.3.8 to 4.3.10 on warty. what's the better way to do it?05:29
StoffBox-Steveblackfeet, ubuntu use APT from debian05:29
blackfeetoh, and is it possible to use the packages built for debian also in ubuntu?05:29
=== __d4vid [~ehud@triforum.com] has joined #ubuntu
Slavenbalckfeet: yes.05:29
wezzer-is synaptic graphical frontend to apt?05:30
Slavenyes.05:30
Xappewezzer, yes05:30
wezzer-ok, thanks05:30
blackfeetnice, but what's all in all the difference between ubuntu and debian?05:30
drspinUbuntu is debian-based05:31
Goshawkblackfeet, ubuntu is upgraded frequently05:31
drspinit takes a snapshot of unstaqble and makes it stable every few months ;)05:31
thr1ce"unstable" really isn't too unstable05:31
Goshawkblackfeet, udev+hotplug works very well05:31
drspinright...05:31
drspinbut it's kind of unstable ;)05:32
blackfeetGoshawk: devfs is enougth05:32
drspintherefore... unstable ;)05:32
Goshawksince.. you have to link a usb-pen to be mounted and displayed (also for cameras)05:32
Goshawkblackfeet, i used debian for 4 years... and no, it's not enought05:32
StoffBox-Steveand ubuntu only support a few systems, and its more for desktop use than server ...05:32
blackfeetGoshawk: ok, that i've never had05:32
=== __d4vid is now known as _d4vid
Goshawkblackfeet, i suggest you to try it05:32
Goshawkand the you will make your idea05:33
Goshawkabout that05:33
airoxI have installed tosh-utils, how can I bring the laptop into sleep mode ??05:33
=== TexJoachim [~TexJoachi@p508BF552.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu
StoffBox-Steveits really nice blackfeet :) installer is so easy ;) and you can run xorg when you want in hoary05:33
=== AjDcIjd [~Zhtdkh@162-218-244-213.bg.wifi.vline.verat.net] has joined #ubuntu
Goshawkgnome is not so huge as it is on debian05:34
blackfeetGoshawk: the problem is that i have not enough space on my disk, so i want to check the major differences first05:34
Goshawkblackfeet, you can us the livecd so...05:34
blackfeetGoshawk: since gnome 2.6 i'm using kde ,)05:34
=== sigglet [~sigglet@208.187.169.233] has joined #ubuntu
blackfeetoh, there is a livecd?05:34
Goshawkblackfeet, i used kde too.. until i discovered ubuntu05:34
Goshawk^__^05:34
StoffBox-Steveblackfeet, than Kbuntu is right :D05:34
Goshawkyes there is a weekly livecdi think05:34
Xappehow can I mount a cd burnt with the native cd burner in OSX05:35
Goshawkbut with kubuntu you will lose most of udev+hotplug features05:35
blackfeetGoshawk: is ubunto designd for gnome?05:35
Goshawkyes mainly for that05:35
drspinXappe: put it in -- it should just show up on the desktop05:35
Goshawkkubuntu is another project for kde05:35
drspinXappe: if not, mount -t iso9660 /path/to/cd/device05:36
drspinXappe: you may need to use sudo05:36
blackfeetso is ubunto the suse of debian ;P05:36
Goshawkbut i suggest you to try ubuntu .... and see how gnome could be better for work than other desktop managers05:36
tritiumXappe, and a mountpoint ;)05:36
StoffBox-Stevedont know Goshawk dont test it :) use gnome and the KDE install is just for playing around :D05:36
drspinblackfeet: ... Ubuntu is in no way like SuSE...05:36
=== thr1ce [User@24.231.145.73.gha.mi.chartermi.net] has joined #ubuntu
Goshawkblackfeet, suse is very away from ubuntu05:37
blackfeetdrspin: i'ts ment as the "user-friendly" debian05:37
drspinblackfeet: oh - in that case :D :D05:37
Xappedrspin, tritium, no I cant see the contents. it's hfs+ I believe...tried hmount too but it returned an error message05:38
Goshawkblackfeet, no, since ubuntu is more time loseless05:38
blackfeetGoshawk: do you know which kernel is running on the livecd?05:38
drspinhfs+ is a Hard drive filesystem... try it with iso966005:38
Goshawkyou have not to answar to a lot of questions by debian packages05:38
hawke_drspin: I believe it's also a CD filesystem05:38
Xappedrspin, it's a cd file system too, for mac cds05:38
drspinhawke_you very well could be correct...05:39
Goshawkblackfeet, there are relases every week i think... so 2.6.[8-10] 05:39
=== xxenon [xxenon@81.13.238.141] has joined #ubuntu
Goshawkbut check first05:39
Goshawkat ubuntulinux.org05:39
blackfeetGoshawk: the thing is that i need linux-pptp and the ip_gre module for my internet05:39
Goshawki don't know if it's compiled with that.. but it is just for a test.. so if you don't have internet it's not a problem05:40
drspinXappe: did you try mount -t  auto just to see?05:40
=== dizzie [~dizzie@port75.ds1-hj.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #Ubuntu
blackfeetGoshawk: i will try it and visit the channel later again ;)05:41
blackfeetthx first05:41
Goshawkblackfeet, don't thx me.. but at all of those that works every day to make ubuntu so easy to use :-)05:41
dizzieEvening all :)05:42
=== leon [~leon@D40AA747.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #ubuntu
=== _d4vid is now known as __glx
=== dizzie waves at leon
blackfeetoh, just another question ;) whats about the ati-fglx modules? You say ts easy to use, so i try to hope that there is an easy way to get them running ;) does anybody know somthing about this point?05:43
=== __glx is now known as _d4vid
=== craigaa [~craigaa@nngy-165-165-159.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu
Goshawkblackfeet, this was another reason05:43
=== AngryClip [~kvirc@jriley1984.plus.com] has joined #ubuntu
Goshawki've an ati radeon 9250 never worked on the outdated Xfree of debian05:44
xxenonIm quite new to ubunto. If I install 4.10, can I easily update to the latest version (x.org 6.8.2, etc...) ?05:44
Goshawkon ubuntu with Xorg it works05:44
Xappedrspin, i get the lable of the cd, but it states it's empty05:44
=== theine_ [~theine@83.72.197.119.ip.tele2adsl.dk] has joined #ubuntu
snowblinkXappe: mount -t hfsplus device mountpoint05:44
=== nico2012 [~nico@if12v5-22.d4.club-internet.fr] has joined #ubuntu
blackfeetGoshawk: slowly i begin to like it ;) and i think it will be possible to get apt to ask all the questions, because they are often quite important ;)05:45
blackfeetcya05:45
Goshawkblackfeet, c u05:46
=== pchiller [~tz@dsl-082-082-229-126.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== blackfeet [~blackfeet@193.170.62.180] has left #ubuntu []
Goshawkxxenon, use synaptic pointed to hoary05:47
membreyaanyone here using galeon??05:47
thr1cedoes anyone have an ipod shuffle?05:47
xxenonGoshawk - ok ...05:48
xxenonGoshawk - there is no KDE on the CD's ?05:49
Riddellxxenon: these ones have KDE http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2005-March/000023.html05:49
=== OddAbe19 [~OddAbe19@pcp02542642pcs.lncstr01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== R0bNyc [~jkd@pool-162-84-156-141.ny5030.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== jamin [~jamin@cust-24.241.99.54.cbnstl.net] has joined #ubuntu
Xappesnowblink, then I get two maps that I can cd into but not ls05:52
=== bretzel [~felix@modemcable128.237-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu
R0bNycAnyone here got 2.6.11 k7 working on their AMd AThlon XP-M Laptop?05:54
wdhR0bNyc, wish i had one :P05:54
=== bretzel [~felix@modemcable128.237-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu
R0bNycwdh, lol what u got05:55
=== Shambler [~Shambler@pD95FC8B9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu
bretzelOh! Gnome 2.10 is spread! I've got it :-)05:55
wdhenough, but not a laptop..05:55
=== ronny [~ronny@pD9EC5075.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu
R0bNycI'm trying to find a good mail client like Thunderbird or Evolution, but I want something that when I click on a email address on the browser that it automatically opens a email with the mail client like for example I do in Windows,05:56
Xappe $ hmount /dev/hdc05:56
Xappe/dev/hdc: contains 1 HFS partition05:56
Xappehmount: /dev/hdc: volume is smaller than 800K (Invalid argument)05:56
Xappebah05:56
R0bNycbretzel, I've got gnome 2.10 with this new distro called Foresight Linux05:56
Xappei'm getting tired of this05:56
=== ronny [~ronny@pD9EC5075.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #ubuntu ["Bye"]
wdhR0bNyc, then let gnome know what your favourite mailclient is..05:57
Myrtti:-D05:57
Myrttiindeed05:57
=== xnotte [~sdf@a83-132-64-7.netcabo.pt] has joined #ubuntu
=== melter [~Melter@dyn224.iacc-tm4.ndsu.NoDak.edu] has joined #ubuntu
xnottehow can i change my keyboard layout _05:57
R0bNycwdh, thanks05:57
=== skallen [~anders@node213-88-181-35.bb.velocitytech.net] has joined #ubuntu
goldfishxnotte: in the computer menu, i think u can do it there, there is a keyboard thingy there05:58
xnottegoldfish, i want for console05:59
goldfishoh right05:59
=== Qerub [qerub@h141n2fls303o1100.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== maskie [~maskie@196-30-109-167.uudial.uunet.co.za] has joined #ubuntu
=== larsrohdin [~larsrohdi@213.134.113.127] has joined #ubuntu
bretzelR0bNyc: :)06:02
=== SiliconViper [~siliconvi@d205-250-111-241.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu
R0bNycbretzel, whats up06:02
xnottehow can i change my keyboard layout _06:02
larsrohdinif i install the fglrx-driver, does it replace the driver im using now? or can i just remove fglrx later and use this driver again?06:02
wdhxnotte, why ask twice?06:03
xnottewdh, because have entered new persons06:04
Qerublarsrohdin: yes, you can switch back and forth.06:04
larsrohdinQerub, by simply remove the fglrx?06:04
wdhabout 5 maybe? on a total of 373? get real.. think before you speak..06:04
wdhxnotte, it's quite annoying06:04
bretzelSorry: I really need to know where or what to do to make that %$&^&^% apache/inted/https/ accept connections!!!! I have a second PC with hoary server install and the daemonds are running (apache2, webmin, etc...) but connections are refused!!! what can I do ? for my knowledges, everythings are set correctly... I am srewed06:05
xnottewdh, if in 373 anyone answered me (maybe away), the 5 who entered, could help...they're awaked06:05
Qerublarsrohdin: have you seen http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto ?06:06
Qerublarsrohdin: if you want to use the old driver, just change /etc/modules and your X configuration file06:06
=== xinel [~xinel@dsl-220-235-128-206.wa.westnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
wdhxnotte, forget it.. you just dont do this.. and btw.. google is a very good help on little things like this..06:06
xinelhey all06:07
xnottewdh, *06:07
wdhxnotte, http://www.justfuckinggoogleit.com/?hl=nl&q=how+can+i+change+my+keyboard+layout+_&btnG=Google+zoeken&lr=06:08
xnottewdh, *06:08
wdhxnotte, stfu :)06:09
=== blizah [~stephen@12-217-47-230.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu
xinelwant a harder problem to help fix :P06:09
=== neighborlee [~neighborl@d2-251.rb2.gh.centurytel.net] has joined #ubuntu
wdhxinel, here i present xnotte to you :)06:09
=== xinel reads above
=== no0tic [~no0tic@host4-27.pool8251.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu
xinelnah tis okies06:10
Echyloquestion? do there exist gaim , msn messenger popup look a likes? like you don't get only noticed by a sound but with a pop up when someone comes online06:10
bretzelPlease I need to know why my other machine refuses any connections - excepted ssh: apache2, webin, and inetd are running...06:10
QerubEchylo: I believe there's a plugin for Gaim that does exactly that.06:11
=== Loevborg [~loevborg@d37-55.dip.isp-service.de] has joined #ubuntu
Echylohttp://www.google.com06:11
Echylolets search then!06:11
=== GarySaved [~gary@67-139-153-214.br1.hnv.mi.frontiernet.net] has joined #ubuntu
xinelwells my problem is a goody: i have two computers running ubuntu and networked, samba works, the computer with the printer on can print, the other computer cannot06:12
xinelive set up samba printer configs06:13
=== WildFreak [~waaaaahty@ndn-165-157-120.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu
xinelsetup cupsd.conf06:13
xineljust can't connect through to print06:13
Qerubxinel: why not print through cups directly?06:13
=== tck [~tck@213-202-182-160.bas504.dsl.esat.net] has joined #ubuntu
xineli can on the computer with the printer connected06:13
=== IvyCQuaff [~Sir@200-171-144-228.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #ubuntu
xinelim trying to get the computer without the printer to print over the network06:14
=== WildFreak [~waaaaahty@ndn-165-157-120.telkomadsl.co.za] has left #ubuntu []
=== j-rock [~joe@thn-238-60.rh.uwec.edu] has joined #ubuntu
GarySavedHow do I go about editing the menu system?06:14
bretzelwhat is that command to reconfigure a pkg: let say nfs-common ?06:15
xineldpkg-reconfigure06:15
bretzelthanx xinel06:15
xinelnp06:15
jesuelgrr06:15
GarySavedI installed a couple games, but they were not put in the menu.06:16
xinelgo to apps, games, right click, entire menu, add new item to menu06:16
=== macxfree [~macxfree@d80-170-77-126.cust.tele2.fr] has joined #ubuntu
xineloh btw about my prob, i did an nmap and the comp with the printer on has all the ports open i need to print06:18
=== xf__ [~ubuntu@ppp45-36.lns1.adl1.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== macxfree [~macxfree@d80-170-77-126.cust.tele2.fr] has joined #ubuntu
xf__howdy; this has probably been asked 5 million times but is hoary in a usable state?06:19
xf__i.e. is it around the same stability as sid, i.e. i shouldn't expect /too/ much breakage by using it?06:19
GarySavedI don't get anything when I right-click the games option.  When I right-click an actual game, I get options to put it in the panel.06:19
xf__i.e. my mail server might stop working, but it won't run off with my girlfriend or corrupt data?06:19
goldfishxinel: ports forwarded from router?06:19
=== larsrohdin [~larsrohdi@213.134.113.127] has joined #ubuntu
xf__wow, i'm using i.e. a lot. more coffee, i think06:20
xineldon't need to its over my switch on my lan06:20
larsrohdinexcuse a stupid question but what is the command to start fglrx-control?06:20
goldfishkk06:20
Montaghjust as long as youre not using IE06:20
xinelits funny coz its lame :P06:20
larsrohdini thought it was fglrx-control but it says "unknown command"... and i just installed it...06:21
=== EVrfJlLj [~Kyzrhwl@193.219.91.133] has joined #ubuntu
goldfishreboot needed maybe?06:21
larsrohdinjust did that...06:21
xf__anyone?06:21
goldfishxinel: it is06:21
goldfishgah06:21
goldfishtab06:21
goldfishxf__: yes06:21
xf__so i should expect it to be like sid?06:22
=== invictus [~invictus@so817.hig.no] has joined #ubuntu
xinelawww i saw blue06:22
xinel:/06:22
goldfishxinel: lol06:22
GarySavedxf__, I am using it, and I have not had and problems at all.06:23
GarySaved ... Well, not many ...06:23
xf__ok, no problems.06:23
xf__heh, what problems?06:23
Parallax_I just bought an HP iPAQ rx3715 and I have to stick with M$ Outl**k for the syncronization, Is there any alternatives with my best friend "Ubuntu" ????06:23
xf__i can handle the occasional broken package needing manual fixing, but i don't want things like a broken fsck killing my partitions, or a broken postfix corrupting my maildirs06:24
GarySavedMostly just me trying to figure out how it needs for things to be done.  Nothing has gone wrong.06:24
xf__oh, cool, can handle that06:25
xf__i'm using third party backports though, so herm, i can see i'm in for some fun06:25
goldfishheh06:25
Echyloanybody knows how to get the pop ups for gaim working? I get this error when installing :06:26
Echyloe following packages have unmet dependencies:06:26
Echylo  gaim-guifications: Depends: libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.6.0) but 2.4.7-0ubuntu2 is to be installed06:26
Echylo                     Depends: libpango1.0-0 (>= 1.8.0) but 1.6.0b-0ubuntu1 is to be installed06:26
Echylo                     Depends: gaim (>= 1:1.1) but 1:1.0.0-1ubuntu1.2 is to be installed06:26
xinelhrmms06:26
xineli do a /usr/bin/smbclient -L name06:27
xineland i see no printers :E06:27
=== xinel is confused
QerubEchylo: http://guifications.sourceforge.net/06:27
=== Sav [~sav@ce02816-kristd-abk.cenara.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== JordanAU [~Jordan@cable-24-181-119-185.abr.al.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu
GarySavedIs there a way to add programs to the menu?  Right clicking does not bring anything up.06:30
=== mdke [~mdke@mdke.user] has joined #ubuntu
=== OddAbe19 is away: Gone... Like the French in a battle.
membreyaGarySaved: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7724306:31
EchyloQerub, where do you think I downloaded it?06:31
mdkehi there. Mplayer crashes when I attempt to open a dvd. the error is "Mplayer interrupted by signal 11 in module decode_audio. Does anyone know why this is? I believe I have installed all the relevant packages for dvd playback. I am on hoary06:32
wezzer-try mplayer -ao help06:33
blizahcan i make a add to  panel icon that opens a terminal and then types something to run a program for me?06:33
mdkewezzer, ok06:33
StoffBox-SteveGarySaved, you men to the apps  menu ?06:33
=== ogra [~ogra@pD95F8D55.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu
StoffBox-Stevemean06:33
blizahim tring to make an icon for steam but it needs to run through cedega06:33
blizahwoundering how i do this06:33
JordanAUI am trying to install ndiswrapper to get my wifi up and running, according to their site, i have to have a link to the kernel source. Problem is, i can't find the source in /src/build like i think i am supposed to06:34
=== benjanet [~benja@pc-52-169-83-200.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu
mdkewezzer, willuse xine for now. seems it works ok06:34
benjanetcan someone help me configuring sound engine on Amarok ?06:34
StoffBox-SteveGarySaved, its not an easy way, but its a way in hoary .. > > > http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1803406:35
bretzelHow to remove completely a pkg with apt-get ?? can't find that magic option... I need to totally remove apache-1.x and let apache2 running alone06:35
=== fsc [~lilbuntu@24.107.196.152.charter-stl.com] has joined #ubuntu
wezzermdke: ok06:35
goldfishGarySaved: are you on warty?06:35
=== SeFoKumA [~zienaga@44.Red-81-44-205.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu
GarySavedStoffBox-Steve, Yes ... There really was no way to modify the menus in hoary?  That hardly seems plosible!06:36
=== jeffsch [~jeffsch@fatwire-203-26.uniserve.ca] has left #ubuntu ["gotta]
Parallax_I just bought an HP iPAQ rx3715 and I have to stick with M$ Outl**k for the syncronization, Is there any alternatives with my best friend "Ubuntu" ????06:36
GarySavedPlausable ?06:36
goldfish:)06:36
=== umarmung [~Schreiber@pD9E68C18.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu
GarySavedYes, I am using Hoary06:37
=== telemaco [~telemaco@192.Red-81-35-12.pooles.rima-tde.net] has left #ubuntu []
StoffBox-Stevei know thats foobaa in hoary, the easy with in warty "application:///" dosnt work in hoary :( for the time this is the only way i know to do it06:37
BockBilbois it possible to make ico files in ubuntu?06:37
StoffBox-Steve@ GarySaved06:38
BockBilboi want to make a favicon for my server06:38
BockBilbo:S06:38
GoshawkBockBilbo, no.. it is impossible :D06:38
QerubBockBilbo: icoutils06:38
Goshawkuse gimp ^__^06:38
QerubBockBilbo: png<->ico06:38
GarySavedStoffBox-Steve, Thanks.  I can not believe they overlooked something that important!06:39
GoshawkQerub, good ^__^06:39
blizahanyone know if its possible to make an icon that not only opens a terminal but types some stuff in it also?06:39
VjazParallax_: I have no idea about how good the software is, but there's at least "multisync" and "synce" that are aimed at syncronizing with PocketPCs. You might want to see if there's anything on the forums about them or Pocket PC's in general.06:39
=== GarySaved thinks they were too busy looking at their new desktop. ;-/
BockBilbomm interesting06:39
StoffBox-Stevei search yesterday for a warty like way .. after an hour i go crazy and give up :S06:40
=== ermo [~ermo@3E6B20D4.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #ubuntu
Parallax_Vjaz: I already tried but with no luck :(06:40
wdhblizah, --help ?06:40
=== roben [~Azureus@h185n1fls310o1049.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== Qerub [qerub@h141n2fls303o1100.telia.com] has left #ubuntu []
=== theine_ [~theine@83.72.197.119.ip.tele2adsl.dk] has joined #ubuntu
membreyaso glad they're up to a stable release of gnome :)06:42
goldfishfluxbox!06:42
=== vijub [~vijub@61.1.202.240] has joined #ubuntu
JordanAUwhere is the kernel source????06:43
theine_JordanAU: you need to install it!!!!06:44
=== xf__ [~ubuntu@ppp45-36.lns1.adl1.internode.on.net] has left #ubuntu []
=== Parallax_ [~Pbl@39.red-213-231-94.user.auna.net] has left #ubuntu []
=== mdke [~mdke@mdke.user] has joined #ubuntu
=== jinty [~jinty@20.Red-80-39-147.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu
robenis  there any swedish translation project active yet?06:45
=== thetaphi [~vm@h000625908e5c.ne.client2.attbi.com] has joined #ubuntu
mdkei've trawled the website for a while. Who can tell me how to enable hdparm for my cdrom on a permanent basis? thanks in advance06:45
mdkei mean dma06:45
AngryClipis there any tool to edit the gnome menus (the ones that load up when you press the foot)06:45
thetaphiis ubuntu a from source distro?06:45
=== Guinea [~andrew@p508F2B53.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu
mdkethetaphi, nope06:46
robenthetaphi what does that mean?06:46
mdkebinary06:46
GuineaHi there!06:46
robenok06:46
theine_mdke: you probably need to look in /etc/hdparm.conf06:46
membreyamdke: /etc/hdparm.conf06:46
thetaphiAngryClip i think as of these latest releases of gnome the menu is non-editable/dynamic... don't take my word for it though06:46
membreyaAngryClip: : http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7724306:46
StoffBox-Steveroben, sure there is a swedish tranlation when you use hoary06:46
thetaphiroben, it means all software is compiled on the fly for your particular machine rather than pre-compiled and pre-packaged for a broad range of machines06:47
=== JordanAU [~Jordan@cable-24-181-119-185.abr.al.charter.com] has left #ubuntu []
mdketheine_, membreya, can you tell me what should be in there?06:47
GarySavedWhen I go to ubuntu and try to login, it does not like the certificate.  Is this being fixed?06:47
membreyaread the conf :)06:47
GuineaI've got a problem with installing programs. If I type ./configure into the terminal, it says no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH06:47
=== itamar [~itamar@ita4fw1.itasoftware.com] has joined #ubuntu
thetaphimdke ok cool thanks06:47
itamarare there any hoary netinst CDs?06:47
thetaphijust wondering06:47
mdkemembreya, ok i've read it. Is devfs enabled on ubuntu?06:47
membreyaGuinea: got gcc installed is?06:47
GuineaWell...06:47
farruinnthetaphi: if you wished, you could install a base system then use apt-get source -b all the time instead of apt-get install...06:47
farruinnthetaphi: but I don't think it's really worth it06:48
=== bwlang [~bwlang@faculty2-cis693.unh.edu] has joined #ubuntu
theine_mdke: yeah, everything's explained in config file06:48
mdketheine_, not whether ubuntu uses devfs or not tho06:48
xinelbah06:48
GuineaI tried to install gcc, but it says ./configure: line 2332: cc: command not found06:48
Guinea*** The command 'cc -o conftest -g   conftest.c' failed.06:48
Guinea*** You must set the environment variable CC to a working compiler.06:48
xineldouble bah06:48
StoffBox-Steveitamar, i know there is a netinstall image on the cd :)06:48
xinelwell samba works i will just copy over whatever i want to print and then do it locally06:48
xinel:E06:48
theine_mdke: it doesn't06:48
=== OddAbe19 [~OddAbe19@pcp02542642pcs.lncstr01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
mdkehmm06:48
theine_mdke: anyway, that's quite independent of hdparm/dma06:49
=== dev_alex_ [~alexs@lock.ehsbrann.com] has joined #ubuntu
mdketheine_, it is relevant to what syntax to use in the conf. are you sure it doesn't?06:49
GarySavedDoes anyone else have a problem with their certificate?06:49
theine_mdke: is it? i didn't know that06:49
thetaphihow long ago did ubuntu come out?06:50
=== itamar [~itamar@ita4fw1.itasoftware.com] has left #ubuntu ["Client]
thetaphiis 4.10 still the latest release?06:50
mdketheine_, you're the one who told me to read the conf ;)06:50
=== sophief [~sophie@5.176.99-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu
mdkethetaphi, yes06:50
sophiefhi06:50
netpuppythetaphi, warty was the first release06:50
thetaphimdke k when did that come out?06:50
mdkethetaphi, october last year06:50
thetaphinetpuppy when did it come out?06:50
sophiefhi06:50
thetaphiaight cool thx06:50
StoffBox-Stevethe last "stable" thetaphi the last is Hoary Arry606:50
Echyloconfigure: error: Library requirements (gaim) not met; consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them.06:50
sophiefhow to config printer06:50
theine_mdke: alright, use the one for no devfs systems then06:50
Echylowhat should I do now ?06:50
mdkeStoffBox-Steve, that is really misleading06:50
GuineaSo, how do I install gcc?:-/06:50
netpuppythetaphi, as the name suggests, in month 10 of 200406:51
goldfishGuinea: from a terminal, sudo apt-get install gcc06:51
dev_alex_hey, I have a question, how safe is it remove ubuntu-base?06:51
mdketheine_, yep ok have done06:51
=== bretzel [~felix@modemcable128.237-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has left #ubuntu []
=== fredrichc [~fredrichc@o104.ryd.student.liu.se] has joined #ubuntu
willGuinea: try sudo apt-get build-essential06:51
=== Aivaras [~Aivaras@ctv-217-147-36-106.vinita.lt] has joined #ubuntu
mdketheine_, ok it has worked thanks for your help06:52
StoffBox-Stevewhy mdke the last stable is Warty , and the last release is Hoary Array 6 ;)06:52
mdkeStoffBox-Steve, ah yes that's true. you said the last stable one was hoary06:52
mdkemisunderstanding06:52
=== dazed [~dazed@host-208-60-230-66.bhm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== padraig [~padraig@mckenna1996.plus.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== l0gistic [~l0gistic@213-202-163-144.bas503.dsl.esat.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== art_ [~art@83-145-187-16.cable-modem.tkk.net.pl] has joined #ubuntu
GuineaHey, seems to work, thanks!06:54
=== nico2012 [~nico@if12v5-22.d4.club-internet.fr] has joined #ubuntu
theine_mdke: does /etc/init.d/hdparm exist?06:54
mdketheine_, sure06:54
=== Levander [~cponder@user-11208c5.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== melter [~Melter@dyn224.iacc-tm4.ndsu.NoDak.edu] has joined #ubuntu
art_Hi. I've installed Ubuntu 5.04 and I can't run "nautilus applications:///" to configure gnome menu. Any help?06:56
mdkeart_, it is disabled06:56
art_why?06:57
mdkeart_, dunno06:57
art_How can I configure gnome menu ?06:57
mdkeart_, if you're desperate you can edit /usr/share/applications/*.desktop06:57
mdkesystem-wide only tho06:58
mdkei think that is the only way06:58
art_Some applications are missing so I need to do this06:58
=== e-Jah [~ejah@bob75-1-82-234-73-118.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu
theine_where is /etc/alternatives/x-cursor-theme supposed to point to?06:59
mdkeart_, ok you have to add .desktop files for the programs you want in the menu. Copy the syntax from existing ones06:59
mdketheine_, mine goes to /etc/X11/cursors/core.theme06:59
theine_mdke: thanks06:59
=== Tycho_Atreides [{UMCP}Tych@tycho2.student.umd.edu] has joined #ubuntu
mdkenp07:00
=== Lvbym [~MHSLj@202.141.238.134] has joined #ubuntu
benjanetcan someone help me configuring sound engine on Amarok ?07:00
=== xinel [~xinel@dsl-220-235-128-206.wa.westnet.com.au] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
theine_mdke: what about /etc/alternatives/mozilla-javaplugin.so?07:01
=== Burnout [~Burnout@85.51-201-80.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu
mdketheine_, no idea i'm afraid07:01
theine_mdke: don't have java installed?07:01
mdkeno07:01
theine_mdke: ok, thanks anyway07:01
mdkesorry07:01
=== mx|gone is now known as mxpxpod
GuineaHmmm...07:03
no0ticis there a way to leave the session open when burning cd/dvds with nautilus-burner?07:03
Guineachecking for glib-2.0 >= 2.0.0... Package glib-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path.07:03
=== beyond-bbc is now known as beyond
=== neighborlee [~neighborl@d2-251.rb2.gh.centurytel.net] has joined #ubuntu
GuineaAnd now?07:04
Echyloooooooow07:05
Echylohow mean07:05
Echylo<deryni> I'm confused as to why someone would want to run ubuntu?07:05
mdkeheh07:05
Echylo<deryni> I thought the benefit was supposed to be frequent releases that are more up to date than debian stable?07:05
mdkehmm07:05
mdkethat is true isn't it?07:05
mdkethey haven't been late on any releases ;)07:06
Echyloyea07:06
StoffBox-Steveits true mdke :)07:06
mdkeactually they are very good on timetables07:06
=== _shuerlimann [~shuerlima@212-41-111-170.adsl.solnet.ch] has joined #ubuntu
=== marioch [~Mario@201.140.139.185] has joined #ubuntu
=== alessio [~alessio@host229-6.pool80180.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu
=== _tester_ [~yz@216.238.204.152] has joined #ubuntu
=== sankito [~ksnyder@adsl-65-66-62-97.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== StoffBox-Steve love xpenguins -a -n 16 --all
alessiogli animali07:11
sankitocan someone tell me how to configure firefox so that when i click on a shoutcast station, it automatically opens xmms and plays it?07:11
VjazStoffBox-Steve: xpenguins is fun... but I'm just wondering what your screen looks like. I mean my screen mostly is completely filled with whatever application (or two) I'm using at the moment. Leaving no space for penguins. :-p07:13
=== escoz [~escoz@140.192.34.11] has joined #ubuntu
StoffBox-SteveVjaz, Dual-head :) one to work and one for staff like chats and list :) so there is allway space for my xpenguins :D btw a revo 1280x1024 on both07:14
=== fwiffo [~jep@cpe.atm2-0-1101155.0x503f8eca.bynxx8.customer.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu
mdkenice07:15
dev_alex_humm why does ubuntu-base depend on alsa-* ?07:15
=== dmoyne [~dmoyne@dyn-83-155-30-222.ppp.tiscali.fr] has joined #ubuntu
mdkedev_alex_, you can remove ubuntu-base if you like07:16
mdkeits a metapackage07:16
=== theine_ [~theine@83.72.197.119.ip.tele2adsl.dk] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
=== Ivy6Quaff [~Sir@c906a0a6.virtua.com.br] has joined #ubuntu
mdkejust a list of the packages which form part of ubuntu's base system07:16
dev_alex_mdke: but then you miss out on stuff that gets added to ubuntu-base, right ?07:16
mdkeye[07:16
StoffBox-Stevedev_alex_, the same with ubuntu-desktop only dummypacks to easy install07:16
mdkeyep07:16
mdkedev_alex_, that's correct07:16
dev_alex_I ain't going near -desktop07:16
dmoyneI am presently testing Ubuntu Wart and I have a few questions :07:17
=== dev_alex_ is considering it for server usage
StoffBox-Steve:)07:17
mdkedev_alex_, it's your call. personally i would remove it if you are just going to run a couple of services07:17
VjazStoffBox-Steve: I envy your screen.07:17
=== sotomonte [~sotomonte@80-29-84-58.adsl.nuria.telefonica-data.net] has joined #ubuntu
Vjaz1024x768 on a 12" laptop screen.07:18
mdkeme too07:18
LordCWhat software do you guys use for burning CDs? Specifically ISOs? Im an ex-KDE user, so I usually used K3b07:18
mdkeLordC, cdrecord is very easy to use. otherwise nautilus-cd-burner07:18
VjazLordC: Nautilus burner. Right click on an ISO file and select "write to cd" (iirc)07:18
dev_alex_humm. mdke yer, but then I might be missing out on some ubuntu goodness.  but then I don't think I can live with my servers with all sorts of junk on 'em07:18
kentLordC, for iso:s nautilus burner,  and for audio I use graveman.07:19
mdkedev_alex_, are you a good linux user?07:19
=== JordanAU [~Jordan@cable-24-181-119-185.abr.al.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu
mdkedev_alex_, gentoo is great for servers07:19
StoffBox-SteveVjaz, :D the 2nd is a old 15" but runs fine with 1280x1024 and the first its just an normal 17" ... :) why money is in backhand there come a new 22"+ monitor :D07:19
Echylochecking for GLIB - version >= 2.0.0... no07:19
EchyloI use warty?07:19
JordanAUdoes ubuntu read debian packages???07:19
Echyloany solution?07:19
dev_alex_mdke: I'd say decent. I'm a debian fan, and I'm moving away from FBSD07:19
=== nico2012 [~nico@if12v5-22.d4.club-internet.fr] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
dev_alex_JordanAU: yap07:19
mdkedev_alex_, hmm well maybe run debian on your server then07:20
=== navreet [~navreet@12-221-91-155.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== housetier [~housetier@dsl-084-056-132-093.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu
navreethi07:20
dmoyneto use a joystick applications expect js0 in "/dev" ; with Ubuntu the proper js0 is located in "/dev/input" ; the idea is to set a link from "/dev/js0" onto /dev/input/js0" that could be set permanently ! ; how to achieve this ?07:20
=== rubenv [~lambda1@kotnet-148.kulnet.kuleuven.be] has joined #ubuntu
VjazEchylo: have you installed libglib2.0-dev?07:20
StoffBox-Stevesure JordanAU ubuntu is debian base07:20
Echylomaybe07:20
Echylo:p07:20
JordanAUyay!07:20
Echylonope07:20
Echylo:P07:20
mdkedev_alex_, but if the pc is a decent one and you have plenty of hard disk maybe you would like to keep ubuntu07:20
JordanAUi can get ndiswrapper to work then!07:20
LordCCool, thanks mdke Vjaz  and kent07:20
dev_alex_mdke: well I'm looking at ubuntu for the quick security fixes  which Debian Sarge doesn't get07:20
navreetcan anyone help me boot ubuntu? i know what partition it is on... (but I didn't want to install grub.. [already have it] ), but I can't seem to boot it, it says "root=" param is not recognized, I know exactly which drive it is on, but I suspect the kernel may think the drive is labeled differently07:21
mdkedev_alex_, i've never used debian. i presume that debian gets security fixes tho07:21
mdkedev_alex_, even woody no?07:21
vijubnavreet: is urs a sata drive?07:21
dev_alex_mdke: woody is 3 years old :)07:21
navreetvijub, yes :)07:21
=== JordanAU [~Jordan@cable-24-181-119-185.abr.al.charter.com] has left #ubuntu []
mdkedev_alex_, yes07:21
mdkedev_alex_, is that bad?07:21
navreetit should be /dev/sda207:22
=== DnaDog [~si@cpc2-inch1-4-0-cust200.dbln.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu
DnaDoghi07:22
dev_alex_so the new stuff isn't in there. and the move from FBSD would be too far back07:22
navreetoh, btw, I installed the amd64 versino07:22
StoffBox-Stevebad not but for a desktop system its very old mdke :D07:22
mdkeyeah but he is running a server07:22
navreetvijub, any suggestions07:22
navreet?07:22
DnaDogi am new to apt-get can anyone tell me how i can install kernel sources with apt-get07:22
dmoyneto use a joystick applications expect js0 in "/dev" ; with Ubuntu the proper js0 is located in "/dev/input" ; the idea is to set a link from "/dev/js0" onto /dev/input/js0" that could be set permanently ! ; how to achieve this ?07:23
mdkedev_alex_, well if you liked the ports system of freebsd then have a look at gentoo. it is very customisable in terms of what packages you want to use, how heavy you want your dependencies etc07:23
dev_alex_that doesn't mean I want to run an achent copy of stuff :)07:23
=== EkSoN [~ekson@175.Red-213-96-18.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== darkling [~hugo@81-5-136-19.dsl.eclipse.net.uk] has joined #ubuntu
navreetDnaDog, apt-cache search kernel sources07:23
dev_alex_ah, I HATE the ports system with a passion :) but I've been told gentoo is nice.07:23
navreetvijub, ?07:23
=== flyover [~jeremy@12.216.228.198] has joined #ubuntu
=== netpuppy [~mark@x1-6-00-00-24-c3-7a-dc.k497.webspeed.dk] has joined #ubuntu
mdkedev_alex_, how come?07:24
navreetdev_alex_, gentoo is OK07:24
DnaDogcheers navreet i will give it a go07:24
mdkedev_alex_, how come you hate the ports system i mean?07:24
R0bNycdoes ubuntu has mplayer, mplayer-plugins, and stuff so I can see videos on browser?07:24
mdkeyes07:24
R0bNycwhat plugins can I get then07:24
mdkenot by default tho07:24
dev_alex_mdke: I've been bitten in the ass one too many times, creating a repository that deals with dependecies is a royal pain.07:24
wezzersee ubuntuforums.org07:24
wezzerthere is howto forum07:25
wezzerand there is multimedia / mplayer thread07:25
mdkedev_alex_, well maybe steer clear of gentoo tho. it's awesome tho ;)07:25
navreetcan anyone help me boot ubuntu?07:25
dev_alex_mdke: I know a couple of people that uses it, and I've been assured that ebuilds don't blow as hard :-p07:25
GuineaWell - I get the message "Package glib-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing `glib-2.0.pc'" - But how can I do that?07:26
mdkedev_alex_, hmm you need to take quite a lot of care with setting your use flags for dependencies tho07:26
=== streetbmx [~brandon@adsl-8-147-221.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu
streetbmxhello07:27
dev_alex_mdke: I currently run a pile of FBSD machines, and I build in-house packaeges so I'll be ok :)07:27
mdkewow07:27
mdkedev_alex_, do you have distcc running?07:27
dev_alex_mdke: what I'd like is to be able to point lots of machines at a reposiroty and keep then in sync with each other, and I's hoping ubuntu might do the job for me07:28
dev_alex_mdke: nothing fancy like that. its a hassle enough to keep all the boxes upto date07:29
mdkedev_alex_, run a local repository?07:29
=== vijub_ [~vijub@61.2.36.4] has joined #ubuntu
dev_alex_mdke: yer, that's that some gentoo users have suggested. have a build machnine and binary package repository.07:29
dev_alex_the same could be done with debian or ubuntu.07:30
mdkedev_alex_, well i was thinking you could use one machine to build packages on, and get the other machines to help out with the builds07:30
mdkeyeah07:30
mdkedev_alex_, although you don't need to build the packages ;)07:30
vijub_navreet: sorry my connection hanged... did u get me07:30
=== will [~will@1-1-7-19a.ars.sth.bostream.se] has joined #ubuntu
dev_alex_mdke: I'd have to build all the in-house packages anyway, ans some of the heavy duty ones I'd want to tune them anyway so that's not the hassle.07:31
Echyloanybody has a link to a tutorial how to get photoshop 7 launched?07:31
dev_alex_I just like the core OS to be a slim as possible, and ubuntu-base is a tad large for my likeing.07:32
mdkedev_alex_, ubuntu is not great for that sort of thing07:32
mdkedev_alex_, imo the dependencies are a bit heavy07:32
=== Lemonzest [~Lemonzest@cpc1-nott4-3-0-cust27.nott.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu
dev_alex_mdke: yes, on the other hand it has a nice 6 month release which would be very nice to track.07:33
Slavenanyone else experiencing poor graphic performance and sound delays in zsnes?07:33
=== apokryphos [~francis@host-84-9-33-174.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu
streetbmxthe ubuntu custom/server install isnt too large07:33
mdkedev_alex_, well that's the advantage of a port system07:33
=== vpalle [~vpalle@park222.koll.au.dk] has joined #ubuntu
mdkedev_alex_, constantly updating07:34
dev_alex_streetbmx: umm..  alsa, evms, RAID,  nice but not nessasery.07:34
=== thekoreuk [~epsilon@dsl-80-43-102-192.access.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu
mdkedev_alex_, the latter two are easily removed07:34
streetbmxaw07:34
dev_alex_mdke: well I think its the oppsite, its too constant, there's no time for sitting back and enjoying the peace.07:35
=== copilot [~copilot@c-67-175-158-19.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
mdkedev_alex_, heh07:35
=== dev_alex_ is as lazy as they get
=== dmoyne [~dmoyne@dyn-83-155-30-222.ppp.tiscali.fr] has left #ubuntu []
mdkedev_alex_, well imo if you're running a server you only need security updates, you don't need new releases. As long as the hardware is supported07:35
=== phester [~phester@h157n2fls32o827.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== Zhgtrzp [~Hjotrqzd@202.141.238.134] has joined #ubuntu
=== Wolven [~ion@c5100A7C5.sdsl.catch.no] has joined #ubuntu
=== redissexy [~redissexy@201009184192.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu
phesterIm trying to install nVidias audio driver for linux and i get this message: Unable to find the kernel source tree for the currently running kernel.07:36
dev_alex_mdke: there's some truth in that. but then developers want decently new libs and apps to write code againts so Debian Woody is pushing it, although it would be ideal.07:36
phesterwhat to do?07:37
=== StoffBox-Steve_ [~steve@pD953231F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu
mdkephester, have a look at the wiki on the ubuntu website, or www.ubuntuguide.org07:37
Slavenhm07:37
Slavenaren't the nvidia audio drivers included?07:38
mdkedev_alex_, when is the next deibian release?07:38
Slaven*curious*07:38
dev_alex_phester: you need to get hold of your kernel source,  $ dpkg -l linux-image\*  will tell you what kernel you have installed07:38
mdkesladen, i believe not07:38
mdkesorry Slaven07:39
=== nasdaq|away [~sdfsdfs@tkp-ip-nas-1-p182.telkom-ipnet.co.za] has joined #ubuntu
dev_alex_mdke: when they feeling making one. I'm not expecting one anytime soon.07:39
Slavendon't be sorry07:39
=== Pyre [~Pyre@host-84-9-33-174.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu
mdkeSlaven, because i got your name wrong07:39
=== toto [~vinic@208.204.39-62.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu
Slaven:)07:39
dev_alex_Slaven: there're not 'cos there not totally free I believe07:40
mdkethat's right07:40
Slavenbut nvidia graphic drivers aren't either, are they?07:40
Slavenbut they are included, aren't they?07:40
mdkenot to my knowledge07:40
SlavenI just had to install glx drivers anyway07:40
=== sankito [~ksnyder@adsl-65-66-62-97.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] has left #ubuntu []
dev_alex_I believe there's a script that downloads the non-free part and compiles it for you, as distribution is not permitted07:41
totohi people! I got DSL troubles so I'm trying to install winmodem on my laptop. Actually its all done, and it manages to connect but when I simply try to reach google thru Firefox or try to get mails, it doesn't work... Any ideas?07:41
dev_alex_(at least that's the case on Debian)07:41
dev_alex_toto: DNS ?07:41
=== craigaa [~craigaa@nngy-165-165-159.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu
totodev_alex_ ?07:42
mdketoto, can you ping google.com?07:42
dev_alex_what happes if you pull up a terminal and go $ping www.google.com07:42
totomdke I didnt try07:42
mdketoto, try, but without the www07:43
totobut I ping remote IP07:43
Slaventry pinging 66.102.9.9907:43
totook I'll try but I gotta reboot and all... I'm on win*$$ there07:44
dev_alex_*sigh* and my search for the perfect disto will have to continue... mayebe I should just use OpenSolaris.07:44
streetbmxdo i need to configure samba in anyway  on the client side to access a samba server share?07:44
=== pchiller [~tz@dsl-082-082-229-126.arcor-ip.net] has left #ubuntu ["Verlassend"]
totowhat if ping works?07:44
totowhat do I do if ping works?07:44
mdketoto, then something is seriously wrong07:44
Slavendev_alex_: what's your criteria?07:44
toto:)07:45
mdketoto, if it doesn't work, then there is something wrong with your dns settings07:45
phesterdev_alex_, is this the kernel source?:linux-image-am 2.6.8.1-13     Linux kernel image on x86_64.07:45
=== vidar_ [~vidar@c5100A9E4.inet.catch.no] has joined #ubuntu
=== jesuel [~jmaradin@69.224.70.61] has joined #ubuntu
totoI used pppconfig to create connection07:45
dev_alex_phester: well thats the image.07:45
phesterok07:45
mdkegtg07:45
mdkelaters all07:45
Echylowhy is everybody outside #ubuntu so pissed and unfriendly07:45
dev_alex_phester: so now you need to install kernel-sorce-2.6.8-107:46
apokryphosEchylo: they're not ;-)07:46
Echyloand then they dare to say that ubuntu is not good07:46
SlavenEchylo: Good question.07:46
dev_alex_or something like it07:46
totoI dont remember having filled any DNS stuff.... :/07:46
apokryphosEchylo: it depends on where you go; have you been in #debian?07:46
Echylono07:46
Echylo#gaim07:46
vidar_Hi! i have a problem with my sound, the volume control doesn't work. anyone know how to fix this?07:46
phesterEchylo, ubuntu people is friendly, the rest is unhappy with what they have :)07:46
Echylothere I ask how long compiling of gaim would take on a p2 with 192 ram07:46
Echylo"go find out"07:46
totovidar_ unmute?07:46
toto:)07:46
vidar_hehe07:47
vidar_nope07:47
apokryphosEchylo: sounds odd-ish to me. I'd imagine fellow Gnome-ers would be more agreeagle. But, you can't take one visit in a channel obscure your thoughts on what it's like, at other times.07:47
phesterdev_alex_, :ok thx07:47
vidar_I have sound, but i cant control the volume.07:47
EchyloI ain't gonna visit every channel ;)07:47
=== rrm3 [rrm3@resin.csoft.net] has joined #ubuntu
dev_alex_Slaven: runs on x86, and I want to build a cluster farm out of my box so I'd like to be able to pin the software on the boxes in time and keep then in sync07:47
Slavenvidar: plug in the speakers? :P07:47
goldfishlol07:47
=== flyover [~jeremy@12.216.228.198] has left #ubuntu []
vidar_Slaven , toto : I have sound, but i cant control the volume.07:48
totovidar_ install gnome_alsa_mixer or something like that07:48
totoit's very useful07:48
dev_alex_Slaven: so an binary packae repository is what I'm thinking. but then I'd like to get seciry fixes in at a decent speed.07:48
vidar_toto: i believe i have done that.07:48
Slavenok.07:49
totosee what dmesg snd gives07:49
Slavenhow does Solaris work with repositories?07:49
=== spiral [~spiral@lafilaire-4-82-224-249-43.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu
totoSlaven, I reboot on linux and try to ping and then reboot on win$** if necessary... stay here?07:49
spiralhi07:50
=== _4`aw is now known as _4strO
Slavenyeah, I'll be around.07:50
dev_alex_Solaris has binary package you can add/remove and has some repositories but no dependencies, its just a joke 'cos it would piss off my co-worker :-p07:50
totothanks! ;)07:50
Slavenbut anyone could help you, really.07:50
dev_alex_... maybe you should of told him to take note of his DNS settings and check resolve.conf ?07:51
=== m-foxela [~legolas@port-212-202-8-100.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #ubuntu
goldfishlol07:51
=== OddAbe19 is away: Gone... Like the French in a battle.
Slavenoh07:51
=== FAST [~gyro_@ip68-4-125-152.oc.oc.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== Seveas [~seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu
streetbmxim trying  to access a samba share with nautilus, but it doesnt even ask for username or password. and just says folder  contents cannot be displayed, can anyone help?07:52
=== Suvroc [Corvus@85.86.233.133] has joined #ubuntu
Slavenam I the only one helping him now? :P07:52
=== andromede [~andromede@courbet-2-82-67-127-148.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== andromede [~andromede@courbet-2-82-67-127-148.fbx.proxad.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
dev_alex_streetbmx: what is your samba share setup as?07:53
=== doko [~doko___@dsl-084-059-013-034.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu
streetbmxhomes07:53
streetbmxi set it up like the ubuntuguide shows07:54
dev_alex_$net rpc share -S <hostname> give you?  (do that from the client machine)07:54
=== marioch [~Mario@201.140.139.185] has joined #ubuntu
vidar_toto07:54
vidar_toto: nothing07:55
=== Renko [~Renko@217.43.59.226] has joined #ubuntu
=== navreet [~navreet@12-221-91-155.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu
dev_alex_streetbmx: *shurg* I haven't a clue about the ubuntuguide, but I know my way around samba07:55
=== lizdeika [131520@user10.satnet.lt] has joined #ubuntu
vidar_toto: nothing useful that is07:55
streetbmxhomes07:55
streetbmxprint$07:55
streetbmxIPC$07:55
streetbmxADMIN$07:55
streetbmxbrandon07:55
streetbmxgave me that07:56
dev_alex_well that means it working to a point .07:56
dev_alex_my bet is that you don't have a public share so it can't show it to you07:56
streetbmxi was able to access it from windows07:56
vidar_Anyone else know how to get my volume control working? i get sound, but can't control the volume.07:57
dev_alex_oh? oddness.  so you can browse to the same machine from windows, and what does it show you ?07:57
=== TNAiAiSX [~NKNYeMe@162-218-244-213.bg.wifi.vline.verat.net] has joined #ubuntu
streetbmxand in nautilus, under the server it shows the homes smb share07:57
streetbmxin windows it shows me my files07:57
streetbmxunder /home/brandon07:58
=== Spug [~spug@ti211310a081-0738.bb.online.no] has joined #ubuntu
=== toto [~vincent@61.205.39-62.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu
dev_alex_k. but in nautilus it doesn't?07:58
SpugMy PC crashed, and when I booted again a program complains about not being able to write to one of my partitions because it is read-only... I have tried remounting several times07:59
LinuxJonesvidar_, right click the volume control and click properties. If you have more than 1 soundcard on your system select the correct card.07:59
SlavenI had the same problem with nautilus. It doesn't offer any login-box.07:59
Spugmount also says that the file system is mounted as rw07:59
=== oKtosiTe [~oKtosiTe_@a80-126-82-53.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu
SlavenI use konqueror.07:59
totoThanks dudes, I had Static IP configured in pppconfig... :/07:59
streetbmxnope doesnt work in nautilus07:59
totowinmodem now works!!! YEAH!08:00
dev_alex_ok. I'm out of here. its way too late to be in an office.08:00
totobye08:00
vidar_LinuxJones: i have 2 there, and neither of them works with the volum control. It snaps to full, or off.08:00
Echylowoow08:00
Echylolucky day today08:00
EchyloI managed to compile the latest gaim08:00
goldfishlol08:01
goldfishwell done08:01
streetbmxadios alex08:01
Echyloand to compile the guitifications plugin08:01
Echylothat's still busy08:01
LinuxJonesvidar_, have a look @ gstreamer-properties, do you know if alsa is setup correctly ?08:01
dev_alex_Echylo: wow. you one lucky man08:01
Echylo...08:01
dev_alex_or girl.08:01
Echylodon't laugh or be ironic please :p08:01
=== mxpxpod is now known as mx|gone
=== florian [~florian@p548852C6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu
=== hawke_ laughs.
GuineaHey, what does "fails sanity check" mean?08:02
Echyloomg08:03
vidar_LinuxJones: if i press test at alsa, it fails, but ESD works08:03
Echyloand the plugin compiled fine too08:03
LinuxJonesGuinea, your trying to compile something ?08:03
Echylo:D08:03
=== GarySaved [~gary@67-139-153-214.br1.hnv.mi.frontiernet.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== Renko [~Renko@217.43.59.226] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
LinuxJonesvidar_, ok make it default and select the non alsa card in gnome volume control properties08:03
Guineayes, linuxjones08:04
GarySavedHey ... FYI:  I just did an update, and now I can print from the browser.08:04
LinuxJonesGuinea, install build-essential08:04
=== kzm [~ketil@133.80-202-98.nextgentel.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== beezly [~andy@monkey.beezly.org.uk] has joined #ubuntu
=== Einzel-away is now known as Einzelganger
=== Lzmaix [~Ofuepeb@80.249.152.58] has joined #ubuntu
=== kalden [~kalden@11.212-200-80.adsl.skynet.be] has left #ubuntu []
Echylodoes msn works with someone?08:05
vidar_LinuxJones: still doesn't work. i can move the volume slider, but it don't react to it. The PCM bar snaps to full, or off.08:06
GarySavedSo ... I did the apt-get to get acroreader and the plugin for mozilla.  It does not work.  Where should I look first to fix it?08:06
TexJoachimEchylo: with gaim, fine!08:06
=== Ohmer [~Homer@ip216-239-84-44.vif.net] has joined #ubuntu
GuineaLinuxjones: How? If found a deb-file?08:06
Echylohmm08:06
Echylostill sending cookie08:06
goldfishGarySaved: Whats wrong with it?08:06
Echylo:P08:06
LinuxJonesvidar_, if one of your soundcards in on your motherboard (and your not using it), try disabling it in system bios so Ubuntu doesn't see it08:07
=== Suvroc is now known as Corvus
netpuppyerr... why haven't anyone made a clearlooks theme with "Human" color scheme?08:07
Slavenhm08:07
Slavenmy msn with gaim is sorta unreliable08:07
GarySavedWhen I click on a .pdf link, the screen clears, and it says done.  Nothing happens.08:07
Slavenoften, it won't connect08:07
vidar_LinuxJones: if i press test at alsa, it fails, but ESD works08:07
SpugMy PC crashed, and when I booted again a program complains about not being able to write to one of my partitions because it is read-only... I have tried remounting several times, and mount says that the filesystem is rw08:07
Slavenlike now, for example.08:07
netpuppySlaven, that's MSN for you08:07
netpuppy:)08:07
vidar_LinuxJones: sorry.. that was wrong08:07
LinuxJonesGuinea, goto a gnome console and type sudo apt-get update && apt-get install build-essential08:07
Slavenyeah, mebbe.08:08
=== vincent_ [~vincent@82.224.105.22] has joined #ubuntu
LinuxJonesvidar_, how's that ?08:08
vidar_LinuxJones: i use my onboard sound card, i think it's Realtek AC97. i don't have anything else.08:08
TexJoachimSlaven: not with 1.1.408:08
LinuxJonesvidar_, mmm it should work :(08:09
vidar_i know :(08:09
GarySavedI am so happy to be rid of all the M$ garbage.  I am not even dual booting anymore!08:09
SlavenI'm asking again -- are there anyone else here that are experiencing vlc crashing when trying to maximize the display?08:09
SlavenI'm using vlc 0.8.108:10
=== zolika [prell@212.200.107.40] has joined #ubuntu
GarySavedIs there somwhere I have to enable the plugin? (To get .pdf files)08:10
=== poobal [~poobal@ip68-111-50-228.br.no.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu
goldfishGarySaved: nope08:11
goldfishit shud work automatically08:11
=== ghostfreeman [~ghostfree@c-24-129-74-130.se.client2.attbi.com] has joined #ubuntu
Slavenmaybe restart the browser?08:11
goldfishyeah08:11
GarySavedJust a sec ...08:11
=== Cturtle [~Cturtle__@a213-84-50-38.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu
GarySavedI just re-started the browser.  I tried a couple files.  The screen blanks, and it says done in the bottom right status bar.08:13
=== Spug [~spug@ti211310a081-0738.bb.online.no] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving."]
GuineaHm... configure: error: *** Didn't find any of FreeType, X11, or Win32.08:14
Guinea*** Must have at least one backend to build Pango.08:14
Guinea ?08:14
=== Aivaras [~Aivaras@ctv-217-147-36-106.vinita.lt] has joined #ubuntu
=== bretze1 [~felix@modemcable128.237-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu
GuineaI just installed Freetype...08:14
GuineaOr I believe that I did...08:14
LinuxJonesGuinea, what are you compiling ?08:15
GuineaI try to install this glib/gtk-stuff08:15
Guineaand there is this pango-thing08:15
Guineawhatever it is08:15
LinuxJonesGuinea, all of the glib and gtk libraries are available via apt already pre-compiled08:16
Guineaoh08:16
Guineawhere do i get information about this apt-stuff?08:16
=== maccorin [~maccorin@adsl-067-034-136-135.sip.mco.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu
GarySavedCould it help if I tried it once with mozilla?08:17
=== sebest [~sebest@82.101.6.94] has joined #ubuntu
=== dewback [fabian@pc-238-134-83-200.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu
zenroxGuinea,  you need the dev packages to do that08:17
GuineaHow do I get glib/gtk via apt?08:18
=== cyrus-tc [~cyrus-tc@pD95155EC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu
zenroxGuinea, sudo apt-get install package-name08:18
GarySavedI guess not.  FireFox comes up if you enter mozilla.08:18
=== r0ver [~rover@22-246-114-200.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #ubuntu
Guineaand what's the name of the gtk-package?!08:19
=== redissexy [~redissexy@201009184192.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu
=== belevian [~belevian@82.101.6.94] has joined #ubuntu
crimsun_the binaries? libgtk2.0-0, libgtk2.0-bin, libgtk2.0-common08:20
=== ompaul [~ompaul@213-202-173-29.bas504.dsl.esat.net] has joined #ubuntu
crimsun_to compile a GTK+-2 application, you need libgtk2.0-dev08:21
=== ElVirolo [~cyberalex@dyn-83-156-71-58.ppp.tiscali.fr] has joined #ubuntu
ElVirolohi all08:21
=== lok [~heka@82.228.151.150] has joined #ubuntu
=== Zlikovac [~prell@212.200.107.40] has joined #ubuntu
=== Jwrtodp [~CkCbsl@80.249.152.58] has joined #ubuntu
ElViroloi've got a prob with my hoary installation here : KDM loads up, but I can't log on to ANY WM... Instead, one of these ugly Xdialog windows shows up  saying "xsession: warning: unable to write to /tmp ; X session may end with an error" and then X restarts ... i tried doing a chmod 777 on /tmp, but it still doesn't work, and no error seems to show up in the X.org log...08:24
=== joaocruz [~joao@ip68-0-220-224.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== Blissex [~Blissex@82-69-39-138.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #Ubuntu
neighborleeis anyone else using openscenegraph &/or delta3d ?..if so I need to verify something ;-))08:25
=== joaocruz [~joao@ip68-0-220-224.ri.ri.cox.net] has left #ubuntu []
=== blizah [~stephen@12-217-47-230.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== m-foxela [~legolas@port-212-202-8-100.dynamic.qsc.de] has left #ubuntu ["Konversation]
=== XxOdin85xX [~andy@ACB1615C.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu
GarySavedShould there be a symbolic link for pdf files?  It acts like when I had missed one for Java.08:29
=== raenk [~raenk@200.56.143.70] has joined #ubuntu
=== [Zenith] [~dskgfa@alesund-dhcp-243-26.bluecom.no] has joined #ubuntu
Slavenanyone heard of anyone getting Rpgmaker 2003 working under wine/cedega/whatever?08:30
[Zenith] Is it possible to get a program to open in the same workspace everytime i open it, like gaim starts in workspace 2 and firefox in workspace 3?08:30
=== Einzelganger [~Einzelgan@cust.92.248.adsl.cistron.nl] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
=== Ohmer [~Homer@ip216-239-88-225.vif.net] has joined #ubuntu
raenkhi all, I just installed ubuntu, skip the booloader part as i have one already, it's booting right, but I was wondering if it boots with splash image or not, as I added the common line to grub, but nothing about splash, so if there's any splash I would like to know what would be the default line in grub to get this08:31
=== revildab [~dunno@pcp0010243794pcs.lpaxtn01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
zenrox[Zenith] ,  yes put the progam on the desktops you want then logout saving session08:32
zenroxraenk,  no spasl in warty08:32
zenroxsplas08:32
=== Shambler [~Shambler@pD95FCD24.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu
goldfishh08:32
zenroxya08:33
raenkzenrox, oh ok, then it's ok08:33
raenkthanks08:33
zenroxyep08:33
=== ubuntudave [~dave@host81-152-177-44.range81-152.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu
[Zenith] zenrox, is that the best solution? Will it affect the performance in Ubuntu?08:33
=== verbalshadow [~verbalsha@36-198-31-81.ip.eu.tachyon.net] has joined #ubuntu
verbalshadowhi08:33
=== XxOdin85xX [~andy@ACB1615C.ipt.aol.com] has left #ubuntu ["Verlassend"]
zenrox[Zenith] ,  that will work little slower at login but other wise fine08:33
=== jnk [~jnk@adsl-62-167-79-125.adslplus.ch] has joined #ubuntu
=== XxOdin85xX [~andy@ACB1615C.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu
[Zenith] zenrox, ok. I will try that, thanx for the help =)08:34
=== vince_ [~vince@80-219-106-51.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #ubuntu
zenrox[Zenith] ,  n/p08:34
=== mikep [~mikep@c-24-0-9-81.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
vince_xvile doesn't start (segmentation fault)..hmm08:35
zenroxvince_,  you running warty or hoary08:36
kzmAnybody using upgraded orinoco drivers for WLAN?08:36
vince_hoary08:36
=== pestilence [~jfettig@salty.ncsa.uiuc.edu] has joined #ubuntu
vince_newest updates08:36
=== whaq [~whaq@203.130.197.106] has joined #ubuntu
zenroxvince log out and log back in if you did updates08:36
=== socomm [~socomm@adsl-68-125-34-150.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu
vince_ok, i'll try08:36
zenroxyou got to restart gonome08:36
=== jamin [~jamin@cust-24.241.99.54.cbnstl.net] has joined #ubuntu
pestilencedoes anybody know why they changed the name of the package python to python-minimal?  it seems to have broken kdelibs408:37
pestilencein warty08:37
=== Slack_Rox [~stik@pcp0010004482pcs.centrl01.va.comcast.net] has joined #Ubuntu
=== hypn0 [~chatzilla@host81-7-56-24.surfport24.v21.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu
pestilencefurthermore, where do i point this out so that it gets fixed?08:38
=== vince_ [~vince@80-219-106-51.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #ubuntu
vince_still the same..08:38
=== back_east [~jesse@cpuinternal.mkl.com] has joined #ubuntu
verbalshadowi googled for a way to login/use a windows domain and didn't find one, can someone point me in the right direction08:38
mikepAnyone know where to find or write Linux drivers for Airport Extreme for their Powerbooks?08:38
ompaulpestilence, I'll get you the url if you hang on a min08:38
=== yoko-omo [~aluser@c68.190.161.195.eau.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu
zenroxvince_, wate till the nxupdates08:39
zenroxnx=next08:39
pestilenceompaul: ok08:39
Slack_RoxThere a way of installing all the dev packages at once?08:39
vince_yeah, i guess it's broken. vile works though. and vim of course.08:39
back_eastmikep: It's a broadcom, so don't hold your breath.08:40
ompaulpestilence, I must have been asleep :) bugzilla.ubuntu.com :)08:40
=== yqyq [~fryqyq@host164-94.pool8252.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu
=== Fator_Dee [~fatordee@adsl-85-217-20-24.kotinet.com] has joined #ubuntu
mikepYes, something to do with military specs?08:40
ompaulpestilence, you got that?08:40
=== yoko-omo [~aluser@c68.190.161.195.eau.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== gfxstyler [~GFXstyLER@xdslf167.osnanet.de] has joined #ubuntu
pestilenceompaul: yea, i looked there, wasn't sure if i should submit there.08:41
ompaulpestilence it is the home of the bugs08:41
=== schasi [~schasi@pD95E3B99.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== sucho [sucho@bofh.sk] has joined #ubuntu
pestilenceam i the only one who noticed that an apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade wanted to remove kde?08:42
=== vixus [~vixus@82-41-122-60.cable.ubr01.glen.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu
suchohi, i'm new to ubuntu, is there way to upgrade firefox on ubuntu 4.10 to 1.0?08:42
gfxstylercould someone tell me why the hell this ****!! ubuntu does not start up and hangs on boot randomly? i installed it for 8 times now and i cant get it to boot! im really upset with this **** i installed it 1 time yesterday and it worked without any problems!08:42
pestilencei'm pretty sure it's because python changed from python to python-minimal08:42
Echylohow good does photoshop 7 works with wine?08:42
back_eastmikep: That's what they say08:42
Echyloit's installing08:42
ompaulpestilence, ehh I did not have kde installed before I upgraded such a box08:42
Riddellpestilence: kde is only a meta package, it can be removed safely08:42
vixusXine has suddenly decided to stop playing my DVDs... >:|08:42
back_eastsucho: Use ubuntu-backports08:42
vixusIt was doing it fine before.08:42
pestilenceRiddell: the only package i cared about was konsole, and it is no longer installable08:42
suchoback_east: i'll google for them, thx08:43
pestilenceRiddell: what i meant was, it removed every package related to kde08:43
back_eastsucho: glad to help08:43
vixusCan you please tell me why?08:43
=== maccorin is now known as brandon_niemczyk
pestilenceRiddell: and i think it's because kdelibs4 depends on python which changed names08:43
gfxstyleryou know what? gfy08:43
=== gfxstyler [~GFXstyLER@xdslf167.osnanet.de] has left #ubuntu []
Riddellpestilence: in hoary?08:43
pestilenceRiddell: yes08:44
pestilencei'm curious if i did something wrong....i have hoary pinned to 50, so i assume that nothing from hoary is causing this problem08:44
pestilencethe only thing from hoary i have installed is krb5-*08:44
vixusXine is saying there are no plugins to handle dvd:/ when I blatantly installed them.08:45
vixusdo I need to mount my dvd drive or something to /dev/dvd?08:45
Slavenno mounting should be needed08:45
pestilenceactually, it's kdelibs-bin that depends on python, my bad08:45
ZotnixMmm... GNOME 2.1008:46
pestilencebut kdelibs4 depends on kdelibs-bin08:46
Slavenbut you have linked your cdrom-drive to /dev/dvd, I guess?08:46
=== OddAbe19 [~OddAbe19@pcp02542642pcs.lncstr01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
pestilenceRiddell: i meant No -- in warty08:46
Slavenls -l /dev | grep dvd08:46
vixusubuntu is mounting the cd to /media/cdrom008:46
pestilenceRiddell: trying to type too fast, have something at 2:00 so have to leave soon08:46
vixusi think08:46
Riddellpestilence: hmm, packages don't change names in warty08:46
yqyqdear all, I would like map a windows share(xp) fron ubuntu to xp, I need samba?08:46
Slavenit has to be linked to /dev/dvd08:46
=== wurm [~gregor@c212021.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu
Slavenif you haven't done that already, ln -s /media/cdrom0 /dev/dvd08:47
vixusI followed the linking guide...08:47
yqyqfrom ubuntu to xp08:47
Slavenok08:47
=== azar [~nbarney@66.89.101.194] has joined #ubuntu
=== azar [~nbarney@66.89.101.194] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
=== shua [~shua@cpe-66-66-64-209.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
pestilenceRiddell: ok, so it looks like python is still a package, but when i upgraded, it was removed in favor of python-minimal08:47
johAnyone else experience problems with getting mandatory settings in gconf to work?08:47
=== GarySaved [~gary@67-139-153-214.br1.hnv.mi.frontiernet.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
pestilenceand python-minimal conflicts with python....python-minimal is "required"08:48
vixusSlaven.08:48
Slavenyep?08:48
crimsun_pestilence, in hoary?08:49
crimsun_pestilence, something's broken, then, because both python and python-minimal are installed here. [2.4-0ubuntu6] 08:49
=== Zotnix [martin@ool-4357361a.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu
Echyloyaayaaaaaaaaaaaa08:49
Echylothey should make a cheer channel08:50
=== Suvroc [Corvus@85.86.233.133] has joined #ubuntu
pestilencecrimsun_: hmmmm....08:50
Echylo#cheer !08:50
EchyloI got PS7 running!08:50
Echylo:P08:50
pestilencecrimsun_: so, i have both hoary and warty repositories, but hoary is pinned to 50 so it should be from warty08:50
pestilencewhy doesn't apt-cache show tell you which of {hoary|warty} the information comes from08:51
pestilenceyea.  something must be broken.  i'll have to fix it later.08:52
Echyloomg08:52
EchyloCannot join #photoshop (Channel is invite only).08:52
=== brandon_niemczyk is now known as __
=== shua [~shua@cpe-66-66-64-209.rochester.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
ompaulEchylo, guess it has to be gimp then :) how exclusive is that08:52
__lol08:52
Echylowell08:53
EchyloI got ps7 running08:53
__why is there a photoshop channel on freenode anyways?08:53
Echylobut only problem is I can't use fonts08:53
=== Rocco [~Rocco@TELEKOM136.kfunigraz.ac.at] has joined #ubuntu
__isn't freenode for OSS stuff?08:53
=== shua [~shua@cpe-66-66-64-209.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
__or did i misread the MOTD08:53
EchyloFreenode is a service of Peer-Directed Projects Center, an08:54
Echylo--- - IRS 501(c)(3) not-for-profit organization08:54
crimsun_pestilence, if you use pinning, it's very important that you specify a target repo08:54
__eh, that's not the whole thing08:54
crimsun_pestilence, -twarty08:54
=== PotajiTo [PotaJep0w3@31.Red-80-35-118.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu
crimsun_pestilence, etc.08:54
Roccowhat can i do when he is "unable to dinf i2c bus information"???08:54
PotajiTowenas08:54
__ah it was the policy page i read it on08:54
__not the motd08:54
=== Hell-Razor [~justin@66-188-89-111.mad.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu
Hell-Razorhey guys i justinstalled ubuntu, i was just wondering now how do i install stuff? make sure my system is up-to date?08:56
=== wachu [~wachu@85.137.223.209] has joined #ubuntu
GuineaHey, I've got another question :)08:56
Roccohell-razor: apt-get update08:56
yoko-omoHell-Razor: apt-get upgrade08:56
yoko-omo:)08:56
ompaul__ what you are referring to is: The network exists to provide interactive services to peer-directed project communities. Am I right to think that?08:57
Hell-Razorhow do i become root08:57
Roccoyoko-omo: update or apgrade?08:57
Hell-Razorif i never set a root pw08:57
Roccohell-razor: su08:57
GuineaI get the message "Package pygtk-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing `pygtk-2.0.pc' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable" - How do I do that in Ubuntu?08:57
Hell-Razori never set a root pw though08:57
ompaulHell-Razor, you type sudo su - and give your own password08:57
=== Xhwhbg [Qdead@213.150.176.232] has joined #ubuntu
drspinHell-Razor: sudo -s will give you a rtoot shell08:57
socommHell-Razor: You can set the root pasword "su passwd"08:57
kentwow.. gnome 2.10 about to be installed in Hoary.  Great :)08:57
__ompaul: probably08:57
=== drspin [~cole@ip68-3-211-180.ph.ph.cox.net] has left #ubuntu []
__i dunno08:57
socommHell-Razor: The default user is ~root.08:58
Roccowhat can i do when he is "unable to dinf i2c bus information"???08:58
socommSorta.08:58
=== Lemonzest [~Lemonzest@cpc1-nott4-3-0-cust27.nott.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== back_east [~jesse@cpuinternal.mkl.com] has left #ubuntu []
Echylowie noemt er stijn olemans08:58
EkSoNwhen send CD's Hoary?08:58
socommWhoops not "su passwd" but "sudo passwd"08:58
EkSoNnext month?08:58
=== bretze1 [~felix@modemcable128.237-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has left #ubuntu []
=== spades [~Lenny@ool-18b93cb9.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu
__202009:00
=== soulhack [~fsc@212.85.77.83] has joined #ubuntu
=== rcliii [~rcliii@byu176783wks.rn.byu.edu] has joined #ubuntu
=== __ is now known as ___
=== _gass_ [~any@a81-84-48-91.netcabo.pt] has joined #ubuntu
soulhackit works! now, umm, i have a 130gb NFTS fileformat partition which isnt showing in Ubuntu09:01
=== _gass_ [~any@a81-84-48-91.netcabo.pt] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
[Zenith] Is there a newer version then  0.26.2 availebal of gDesklets for Warty?09:01
soulhackis there a way to change filesystem without formatting the drive09:01
=== spectrum [~martin@cl-lnx-sprinc-srch.blue4.cz] has joined #ubuntu
StoffBox-Stevehmm someone know if ubuntu supports Finger Print Reader's ?09:01
=== garethR [~garethR@82-33-54-191.cable.ubr05.stav.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu
hawke_soulhack: no09:01
=== spectrum [~martin@cl-lnx-sprinc-srch.blue4.cz] has left #ubuntu ["Mizim,]
soulhackand i cannot use NTFS in ubuntu09:01
soulhack?09:01
goldfishsoulhack: you should be able to read from it09:01
goldfishyou can read09:01
goldfishnot write09:01
Roccosoulhack: you can mount ntfs, but it is not recomanded. furthermore you can only read09:02
Hell-Razoris there a way to install stuff off of the internet instead of the cd? because i think some files on ym cd are curropted09:02
garethRhi09:02
___Hell-Razor: are you past the initial install?09:02
Roccohell-razor: apt-get install program09:02
soulhackokay, well, because i have stuff on that drive i need to save before I remount it into another file system.09:02
___if so, apt-get will download things09:02
garethRanyone got any ideas why after install SSH refuses remote login's09:02
___your /etc/hosts file maybe?09:02
BlissexgarethR: yes.09:02
EkSoNone question.., how repair this error.. bootsplash09:03
goldfishgarethR: port forwarded on router?09:03
EkSoNbootsplash09:03
ssamhell-razor, try synaptic package manager09:03
EkSoNE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)09:03
goldfishif you are on one09:03
___i haven't setup sshd on ubuntu cause i just have it on my lappy09:03
=== kcs [~kcs@183-60-228.ip.adsl.hu] has joined #ubuntu
garethRno I have two other debian boxss which work fine and I have compared their host.* files09:03
=== saBrEwolf [~craig@ppp-1-108.leic-a-1.access.uk.tiscali.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== Rocco [~Rocco@TELEKOM136.kfunigraz.ac.at] has joined #ubuntu
Hell-Razorssam: i ahve 3 broken packages on ym system...but i dont see the broken package manager09:03
___errr... hosts.allow09:03
___should have said that...09:03
garethRsame as my debain box which works09:04
=== tck [~tck@213-202-182-160.bas504.dsl.esat.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
soulhackso, umm, how do I mount the NTFSdisc into Ubuntu? I have just installed ubuntu, linux overall09:04
goldfishsoulhack: ubuntuguide.org09:04
goldfish:)09:04
=== zenrox [~zenrox@wbar7.sea-4-12-028-223.dsl-verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== ___ is now known as __
hawke_soulhack: you should be able to mount it read-only09:04
=== solarwinds [~solarwind@bzq-84-109-128-126.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #ubuntu
ssamhell-razor, synaptic should be able to fix it09:04
hawke_soulhack: which would be enough to backup the data09:04
=== CorvusZz [Corvus@85.86.233.133] has joined #ubuntu
Hell-Razorssam: i dont know what broken packages are, or what they looik liike, or how to fix it09:05
ssamit has a fix broken packages item, in the edit menu09:05
soulhackis that a somehwat easy thing to do?09:05
Hell-Razoraaah09:05
Hell-Razorssam: thanks i didnt see that09:05
goldfishsoulhack: yep09:05
hawke_soulhack: yeah... mount -t ntfs /dev/hdxx /mnt09:06
neighborleeWarning: ARB_vertex_program not supported by OpenGL drivers, unable to run application. < Im getting that trying to run my game development example files ( openscenegraph) and wondering if anyone knows what might be causing this ????09:06
ssamhell-razor, hope it helps09:06
goldfishsoulhack: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountntfs09:06
soulhackthanks all09:06
=== leo_ [~leo@85-65-37-74.barak.net.il] has joined #ubuntu
soulhackone minor thing and i am done for now, where do i type that code you gave me hawke?09:07
=== stuNNed_ [~stuNNed@adsl-068-209-149-165.sip.msy.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== CorvusZz is now known as Corvus
=== resiak [~will@host217-42-190-23.range217-42.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu
goldfishsoulhack: in a terminal09:07
=== leo_ [~leo@85-65-37-74.barak.net.il] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
goldfishsoulhack: you know how to get one of those?09:07
=== ricky_clarkson [~ricky@rickyclarkson.user] has joined #ubuntu
soulhackno clue, but i went to run application and clicked Run in Terminal, will that work?09:07
goldfishnope09:08
soulhackwhere do I get a terminal_09:08
goldfishclick Applications09:08
goldfishthen system tools09:08
goldfishor something09:08
soulhackaye, thanks09:08
goldfishyou should see terminal09:08
goldfishcool09:08
ricky_clarksonI can't boot the CD.09:08
Slack_RoxOkiez me ask again :P Is there a way of installing all the dev packages without doing it one by one?09:09
__neighborlee: either a shitty gfx card, or the wrong drivers09:09
ricky_clarksonWhat09:09
ricky_clarksonWhat do I do?09:09
neighborlee__, dont I wish thats all it was09:09
__neighborlee: that is all it is09:10
neighborlee__, I have geforce4TI4200 and latest nvidia driver 611109:10
Roccowhat can i do if ubuntu is "unable to find i2c bus information"?09:10
=== OddAbe19 [~OddAbe19@pcp02542642pcs.lncstr01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
garethRok I have two problems. Default install of warty install the SSH package and I cant login remotly (what changes should I make to enable this) and two remote x login via GDM work once the XDMP stuff is uncommented by one I login it goes SOOO SLOW09:10
neighborlee__, oops sorry make that 6629 ( which really is latest)09:10
ricky_clarksonI looked at www.ubuntulinux.org and it doesn't say how to boot the Knoppix.09:10
=== chuen [~chuen@201.139.52.234] has joined #ubuntu
__well, ARB_vertex_program may not be supportd in that, but I would think it is...09:10
Echylohey if I try to ship cd's know will it be hoary???09:10
__GLSL is pretty new though09:10
__so maybe not09:10
Slavenanyone got that xmms plugin for mplayer video output working good?09:11
__[that extension loads a GLSL shader FYI] 09:11
Roccowhat can i do if ubuntu is "unable to find i2c bus information"?09:11
neighborlee__, oddly enough those same examples work flawlessly in windowsXP...guess I need to check what version nvidia windows is using then ;(09:11
GuineaHow do I change the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable?09:11
__neighborlee: no09:11
__if it works in doze09:11
Slavenfor me it's all slow and delaying09:11
__then there is a config problem09:11
thenukehmm, what's good, easy and lightweight mp3-player?09:11
neighborlee__, like I say I gotta verify which version windows is using...09:11
__and you are sure you have the latest nvidia drivers?09:11
__how did you install them?09:12
neighborlee__, positive...version 6629 ( glxinfo)09:12
neighborlee__, manual09:12
=== streetbmx [~brandon@adsl-8-147-221.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu
__lsmod and make sure nvidia shows up09:12
=== stuNNed__ [~stuNNed@adsl-068-209-149-165.sip.msy.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu
neighborlee__, I had to because apt doesn't have latest..09:12
neighborlee__, repository whatever ;0)09:12
=== Crazy_Diamond [sdfsdf@CPE000cf190b8e0-CM014080218964.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu
Crazy_Diamondhello09:12
t325thenuke xmms09:12
streetbmxare the repositories down?09:12
chuenhello, i am trrying to get 3com wifi pcmia working on wharty09:12
=== ricky_clarkson [~ricky@rickyclarkson.user] has left #ubuntu []
Crazy_Diamondi have problem with ubuntu09:13
__neighborlee: yea on my desktop [debian]  i always install the nvidia drivers myself09:13
neighborlee__, i was having this problem with out of box nvidia ( apt-get install nvidia-glx) so I thought i'd try the newest version09:13
thenuket325: ookey. thanks.09:13
thenuket325: And I need those gstreamer codecs then?09:13
__wait, all you intalled was nvidia-glx?09:13
Crazy_Diamondcan any body help me here09:13
neighborlee__, yeah you get latest that way although nvidia-glx was okay till I discovered my examples weren't working ;(09:13
goldfishCrazy_Diamond: What is up?09:13
__neighborlee: these examples, are they for a class?09:13
soulhacki made it!09:13
neighborlee__, well initially yes right after ubuntu install..all was working fine including say ut2004/nwn/blah09:14
__neighborlee: did you 'lsmod' ?09:14
t325thenuke, go in synaptic and install xmms should install all needed codecs09:14
chuenbut i am a little confused with the new kernel 2.609:14
__and see if nvidia is in the list?09:14
neighborlee__, no...they are my game development libraries/examples: ie: openscenegraph.org & delta3d.org09:14
Crazy_Diamondi have problem with graphic properties09:14
soulhackis there a dvdburningrom included in ubuntu? if not, can you recommend me one?09:14
=== tizzen [~paul@PMccl5133.ResNet.Dal.Ca] has joined #ubuntu
chueni don't find how to see the modules09:14
thenuket325: installed it with apt-get, it fetched only 1 package09:14
__neighborlee: what irc client are you in?09:15
=== defnop [~defnop@dD5769DD4.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu
t325try it, if doesn't work then get the gstreamer things09:15
goldfish__: xchat09:15
tizzenAnyone here have an audigy 2 and they've been able to get it to work with Ubuntu? I don't have the /dev/dsp device... But lsmod shows that emu10k1 is loaded a couple times09:15
neighborlee__, the driver is fine because my games work just fine09:15
neighborlee__, xchat09:15
__neighborlee: /exec -o lsmod | grep nvidia09:15
neighborleenvidia               3470716  1209:15
chuenthis is the first time i try to use a wireless on my box09:16
__neighborlee: if your not willing to check things, then i can't help you... ok, thank you09:16
neighborleeheh np09:16
Crazy_Diamondcan i ask for help in private?09:16
chuenso i would apreciate a little help09:16
=== calamari [~calamari@dialup-4.240.243.109.Dial1.Phoenix1.Level3.net] has joined #ubuntu
__neighborlee: it really sounds to me like you have a bad install of the drivers somehow09:16
t325Crazy_Diamond, what is ur graph. prob09:16
=== IvyCQHome [~Sir@c906a0a6.virtua.com.br] has joined #ubuntu
=== jesuel [~jmaradin@jesuel.user] has joined #ubuntu
jesuel...09:17
=== krischan [~krischan@p3E9E5D78.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu
hawke_Crazy_Diamond: Shine on.09:17
jesuelrep's down?09:17
t325Crazy_Diamond, tell, tell..09:17
Crazy_Diamond:)09:17
Crazy_Diamondok09:17
__neighborlee: did you remove the Load "dri" and Load "glx" from your XF86Config file?09:17
Crazy_Diamondguys i have problem my grapshics a realy bad09:17
=== ubuntudave [~dave@host81-152-177-44.range81-152.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu
Crazy_Diamondresolution is09:18
Crazy_Diamondpoor09:18
Lemonzestanyone know where i can find a guide for skype on ubuuntu?09:18
Crazy_Diamondmy spelling is bad:(09:18
neighborlee__, I think so ill check09:18
=== shuerlimann_ [~shuerlima@212-41-111-170.adsl.solnet.ch] has joined #ubuntu
t325sudo gedit /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 (try with and without 4, I'm currently on mdk, don't remember in ubuntu) then change the resolution09:19
Crazy_Diamondi installed ubuntu on my virtual pc09:19
Crazy_Diamondwhat09:19
neighborlee__, oh dear ;-)..it would seem..I neglected to make that 'edit'09:19
__neighborlee: sorry, i mean remove the "dri" line, and add the "glx" line09:19
__typo09:19
Crazy_Diamondt325 are you taliking to me?09:20
neighborlee__, so even though all games are working..not having done this its interfering with some apps then ....09:20
__there was something else too09:20
__check the readme file09:20
neighborlee__, yeah my opengl and dri line are still there but  my games work fine09:20
neighborlee__, hmmmmm09:20
=== kent [~kent@c83-249-61-222.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu
=== saBrEwolf [~craig@ppp-1-108.leic-a-1.access.uk.tiscali.com] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
t325Crazy_Diamond, yes, the command I gave u ( sudo gedit /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 ) is for editing the graphic server config file09:20
__neighborlee: also, remove the Load "GLcore" line09:21
revildabLemonzest: ubuntuguide.org has an installation guide for skype09:21
__neighborlee: also, remove the Load "GLcore" line09:21
__wwops09:21
__double post09:21
Hell-Razorum guys when it trys to install stuff from the cd i get a buffer i/o error from /cdrom/ section (XXXXX)09:21
=== stuNNed [~stuNNed@adsl-068-209-149-165.sip.msy.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu
Crazy_Diamondi'm new to linux dont know wat are you tlaking about09:21
=== paines [al@pD9FFF90E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu
Crazy_Diamond:(09:22
__neighborlee: most commercial games don't use uber-recent "extensions", or allow for them not to be used if not available09:22
=== Dotrig [Dotrig@c-d7f3e253.21-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu
Dotrighi09:22
t325Crazy_Diamond, try this command in a terminal, you'll get a text editor with you resolution, etc. options editable09:22
__extensions like.... ARB_vertex_program for instance ;)09:22
chuenDotrig: hello09:22
neighborlee__, np..ill try that..you know what though..I NEVER thought about it since instalilng nvidia-glx and issuing: sudo nvidia-glx-config enable < would have taken care of it all ;-))09:23
Dotrigwhere can ifound ubuntu Cd & labels scan?09:23
Hell-Razorum guys when it trys to install stuff from the cd i get a buffer i/o error from /cdrom/ section (XXXXX)09:23
Echylogtg09:23
__neighborlee: heh09:23
Echylohf & cya later :)09:23
=== SePpiK [~seppi@dsl-082-083-051-025.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== Dethread [~Dethread@wsp009866wss.netadm.calpoly.edu] has joined #ubuntu
DotrigWhere can I?09:24
=== MaxeyPad [~maxeypad@12-222-201-62.client.insightBB.com] has left #ubuntu []
DotrigAny knows09:24
blizahhow would i make a quick button for steam but ran through cedega?..ive been looking forever09:24
=== t31 [~t31@chello084010098071.chello.pl] has joined #ubuntu
=== tsume is now known as tsume_
t31i got this site in ff http://www.whatuseek.com/ everytime i start it09:25
t31and cant change it :(09:25
hawke_blizah: how do you run steam now?09:25
=== yqyq [~fryqyq@host164-94.pool8252.interbusiness.it] has left #ubuntu []
t31in firefox seems to be the original one but later loads this09:26
blizahwell i have to go to terminal and use cedega09:26
DotrigWhere can i get cd labels to ubuntu ??..09:26
t31any spyware?09:26
mirakdebconf always try to configure two times xserver-xorg during a dist-upgrade, on hoary PPC09:26
Hell-RazorRead error - read (5 Input/output error) <==== any ideas?09:27
=== SePpiK [~seppi@dsl-082-083-051-025.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu
chuenDotrig: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/UbuntuArtwork/view?searchterm=art09:27
hawke_blizah: it should be something like 'winex steam.exe'09:27
=== siretart [siretart@tauware.de] has joined #ubuntu
siretarthy09:28
hawke_blizah: but, just make a link to whatever command you use to run steam now...09:28
hawke_blizah: or by "cedega" do you mean "point2play"?09:28
siretartim looking for an up-to-date hoary minimal netinst cd image, I want to reinstall hoary via net. can you give me a pointer?09:28
=== SePpiK [~seppi@dsl-082-083-051-025.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== goedson [~goedson@201.19.148.148] has joined #ubuntu
blizahright now i get to the steam dir. and type cedega steam.exe09:29
siretartI don't want to download 700mb full cdimage, just a small iso image09:29
hawke_blizah: then that's what you need the link to point to09:29
Hell-Razorblizah: cd /path/to/steam/dir && cedega Steam.exe09:29
Slack_Roxlol at this mess09:30
blizahput that in the command of a launcher icon?09:30
Fator_Deeor cedega /path/to/Steam.exe09:30
Hell-Razorjust run that from a terminal09:30
blizahyea i know to run steam...just want to make a button taht will run it09:30
Hell-Razorwell09:30
blizah(so i dont have to type stuff every time i want to laucnh it09:30
Hell-Razordo the same witht he button as you would type it in a terminal09:30
=== TheBarron [bme@198.209.44.166] has joined #ubuntu
hawke_blizah: panel, add to panel, custom application launcher09:30
goldfishblizah: u buy cedega?09:31
Fator_Deemake a button that has a command cedega Steam.exe09:31
blizahhow do you specify a enter?09:31
blizahyea09:31
=== fajmoh_ [fajmoh@h237n2fls31o1009.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== edgarin [~edgarin@216.230.136.242] has joined #ubuntu
hawke_blizah: You don't have to specify an enter09:31
jesuelsiretart, ive not seen one of those yet for hoary. Or warty for that matter.09:31
Hell-Razorblizah: what do you mean specify an enter? you dont have to09:31
blizahive triend cedega Steam.exe09:31
blizahnothing happesn09:32
Hell-Razorblizah: ug what path is steam in09:32
hawke_blizah: you need cedega /path/to/steam.exe09:32
Dotrigworked npt http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/UbuntuArtwork/view?searchterm=art :( no labels with jpg09:32
blizahah k09:32
siretartjesuel: that would be sad, I think I've seen somewhere one..09:32
edgarinHello what is the sources.list samba 3.0-1109:32
Fator_Deeblizah: and remember that steam.exe is not the same as Steam.exe09:32
Hell-Razorcan somebody help me...whenever i do apt-get -f install i get errors processing /cdrom/* ect and it returns error exit status two....does this mean i should get a new cd?09:33
jesuelsiretart, I think it would be a wonderful thing to have. Ive just not seen one.09:33
=== |S|-SalSa [starzfires@201.243.114.113] has joined #ubuntu
tizzenanyone here using an Audigy 2 for sound? Please message me if you can help me get it working09:33
blizahheh k tnx09:33
blizahthought i had tried taht09:33
blizahmaybe i did put steam instead of Steam09:33
=== hawke_ hates the case-sensitivity.
Dotrigbooting Cyaa..09:34
=== Fator_Dee loves case-sensitivity
blizahcan you turn off case sensitivity for files/folders?09:34
Fator_Deenope?09:34
=== qbeek [~qbeek@bdv75-6-82-231-176-129.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu
Fator_Deeat least I don't know of a way09:35
goldfishdont think so09:35
=== vtg [~vtg@route6.alumina.nl] has joined #ubuntu
hawke_Fator_Dee: I like that it stores the case...but not that it requires it.09:35
Fator_Deebut you will get used to it09:35
blizahhehe09:35
=== neighborlee [~neighborl@d2-251.rb2.gh.centurytel.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== streetbmx [~brandon@adsl-8-147-221.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu
Fator_Deeand it makes sense, that TextFile is not the same as textfile09:35
=== Hell-Razor things case sensitive is just another way to get the window nublets on a pole to make fun of them
=== blizah that means me
TheBarronCases are SoooOOooo sensitive..09:36
blizahhehe09:36
=== |S|-SalSa [starzfires@201.243.114.113] has left #ubuntu []
goldfishWell, I will live with case sensitivity, instead of using windows :)09:37
=== m-foxela [~legolas@port-212-202-8-100.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #ubuntu
hawke_Fator_Dee: It makes sense, but I don't see any benefit of having textfile not the same as TextFile ... if you have two files, which one's the one you want?  There's no clear identifier.09:37
neighborlee__, okay I changed XF86Config-4 and took out dri and opengl lines..but still i have ARB problems ;(...wth am I missing...09:38
=== TSWoodV [~woodt@bigdeb.atdd.noaa.gov] has joined #ubuntu
=== Dreamer3 [~unknown@sdn-ap-009tnnashP0470.dialsprint.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== arsre [sdfsdf@CPE000cf190b8e0-CM014080218964.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu
StoffBox-Stevehmm just a question, i have a Dual-head system, can i tell gnome/ the wohle system to place popup windwos / dialogs on one screen not in center of both ?09:39
arsrehi all is there any body who can help me with graphics in private09:40
arsre?09:40
=== Hell-Razor things case sensitive is just another way to get the window nublets on a pole to make fun of them
Hell-Razorcan somebody help me...whenever i do apt-get -f install i get errors processing /cdrom/* ect and it returns error exit status two....does this mean i should get a new cd?09:40
=== sabdfl [~mark@host217-37-231-28.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has joined #ubuntu
hawke_Hell-Razor: You're repeating yourself...09:41
StoffBox-Stevewhat graphics you mean arsre ?09:41
sabdflhello ubuntites!09:41
sabdflwhere do i change the default app for PDF's? i'd like to try evince instead of xpdf09:41
hawke_Hell-Razor: is the CD in the drive?09:41
ssamput a # before the cd line in /etc/apt/sources.list09:42
=== Rocco [~Rocco@TELEKOM136.kfunigraz.ac.at] has joined #ubuntu
=== mvo [~egon@ip181.135.1511I-CUD12K-01.ish.de] has joined #ubuntu
Fator_Deesabdfl: right click on .pdf -> properties -> open with -> +add09:42
=== Echylo [~Echylo@211.161-201-80.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu
sabdflFator_Dee: thank muchly!09:43
sabdfls09:43
Fator_Deeno prob09:43
Echyloquestion! I made a terminal look transparant(eterm) on my desktop, but how do you make a program launch auto if you login?09:43
goldfishEchylo: gnome terminal supports transparency09:43
Echylothat is not the question :P09:44
goldfishEchylo: Computer Tab > Session09:44
goldfishi think09:44
Echyloah!09:44
Roccowhat i have to do if ubuntu is "unable to find i2c bus information"?09:44
goldfishit has a start up panel09:44
goldfishi think09:44
hawke_Echylo: system -> preferences -> sessions09:44
=== R0bNyc [~jkd@pool-162-84-180-205.ny5030.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu
goldfishhehe09:44
Echyloyep09:44
Echylothanks mate09:44
goldfishI was close :)09:44
=== HiddenWolf [~hidde@136.15.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu
hawke_goldfish: Think that changed warty vs. hoary09:44
=== runedude [~runedude@2002:4540:24f2:110:0:0:0:6547] has joined #ubuntu
goldfishah right09:45
StoffBox-Steveok than so, can i tell gnome, new windows sould be open on the right side of the screen instead of center ?09:45
=== goedson [~goedson@201.19.148.148] has joined #ubuntu
goldfishsorry :) im still on warty09:45
Hell-Razorhawke_: yes its in el driv-o09:45
=== runedude [~runedude@2002:4540:24f2:110:0:0:0:6547] has left #ubuntu []
hawke_Hell-Razor: do apt-cdrom ident and compare to your sources.list09:45
=== universal [~universal@port989.ds1-khk.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu
=== judith_ [~judith@CPE0011095f2041-CM00e06f240dd8.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== shuerlimann_ [~shuerlima@212-41-111-170.adsl.solnet.ch] has joined #ubuntu
universaldoes someone know about Adour09:46
universal?09:46
=== spiral__ [~spiral@lafilaire-4-82-224-249-43.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu
Hell-Razorhawke_: i figured it out i had to do something with the repo09:46
=== ben_d [~ben@cpe-66-66-209-96.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
ssamhell-razor /etc/apt/sources.list09:47
judith_is ubuntu "pure" debian?09:47
ssamsee if there is a line in there that refers to the cd09:47
=== spiral__ is now known as spiral
ssamand stick a # in front of it09:48
hawke_judith_: No09:48
mdzjudith_: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/relationship/ explains pretty well09:48
judith_thanx!09:48
=== stuNNed_ [~stuNNed@adsl-068-209-149-165.sip.msy.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== ntoll [~ntoll@81-178-215-97.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ubuntu
qbeekhi, how to burn a music CD without K3B under Ubuntu Warty?09:50
=== TSWoodV [~woodt@bigdeb.atdd.noaa.gov] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving]
kentqbeek, you could try to download graveman from internet (i dont think its in Warty). I think gravemans homepage has a .deb file you can download and install (if you know how to do that?)09:51
=== apokryphos [~francis@host-84-9-33-174.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu
ntollPHP5, I heard it was in Hoary, where is it (can't seem to see it in universe)09:52
ntoll?09:52
qbeekkent, yes I will look at graveman.09:53
=== Alessio [~Alessio@host113-4.pool8251.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu
Seveasntoll, libapache2-mod-php5?09:54
Seveasor: apt-cache search php509:54
=== koos_the_rea [~up@c1-rba-218.absamail.co.za] has joined #UBUNTU
qbeekkent, graveman is in hoary universe :)09:55
DnaDogwhat is it to setup the mouse?  i dont have a /dev/mouse at the moment09:55
Hell-Razorug can somebody help me out09:55
Hell-Razorive been trying to get my soudn working with no luck so far09:55
DnaDogit was working until i buggered something up how do i re-create /dev/mouse09:55
=== jesuel [~jmaradin@jesuel.user] has joined #ubuntu
=== judith_ [~judith@CPE0011095f2041-CM00e06f240dd8.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
ntollSeveas, I did a search with Synaptic for PHP5 but returned nothing09:56
=== Guinea [~andrew@p508F2B53.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #ubuntu []
koos_the_reaCan you help me i downloaded the wartey-install-i386 rar arcive file unziped it and burned it to cd but the cd woulnt boot it isnt my bios i have booted from cd's before09:57
=== Tux-Rox [~garrett@c-67-171-239-56.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
zenroxkoos_the_rea,  you need the warty-install-i386.iso09:58
=== SePpiK [~seppi@dsl-082-083-051-025.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu
zenroxand burn the iso to disk09:58
Tux-RoxHas anyone been able to get the mplayer controls to work on mplayerplug-in? I'm using Hoary....09:58
DnaDogok found it09:59
=== dud- [dud@grandin3.user.msu.edu] has joined #ubuntu
dud-hello sirs09:59
Tux-Roxhey dud09:59
koos_the_reaok09:59
=== kay [~kay@p50838DFD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu
apokryphoskoos_the_rea: since you're downloading, you might want to go for hoary instead; see /topic09:59
=== kay_ [~kay@p50838DFD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu
Seveasntoll, did you apt-get update already?10:00
=== HWolf [~hidde@136.15.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu
koos_the_reathanx10:00
=== markoni [marko_tasi@P1-235-20020.dialup.ns.ac.yu] has joined #ubuntu
=== copilot [~copilot@c-67-175-158-19.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== potsed [~potsed@c1-pmb-31.absamail.co.za] has joined #ubuntu
=== dotrig [~dotrig@c-d7f3e253.21-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu
dud-my friend installed ubuntu on his nforce1 machine, and it didn't see the NIC so he turned it off in the bios, and put a realtek card in it. how would get that to work10:02
jnkit's not autodetected?10:03
dud-he said it wasnt10:03
dud-how can he check?10:03
jnktype ifconfig10:03
jnksee if eth0 or something is there10:03
dud-ok10:03
=== kay_ is now known as Karlosis
=== potsed [~potsed@c1-pmb-31.absamail.co.za] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
dotrig:) kay ga* :P.10:04
kaywhat dotrig ?10:04
dotrigswedish funn Joke :)10:04
=== entheon [~entheon@h000625908e5c.ne.client2.attbi.com] has joined #ubuntu
entheonhias10:04
entheoni just installed my ubuntu10:04
=== BockBilbo [~BockBilbo@85.84.43.70] has joined #ubuntu
entheonwhere do i go from here? where is the repository?10:05
dud-me too10:05
dud-heh10:05
dud-and my friend10:05
BockBilbohello10:05
dud-I ran debian for like 8 years10:05
entheonor did apt set itself up already when i said "yes" to "install software from the internet"10:05
dotrigwhere can i get cd images in jpg also cover on cd..10:05
entheondud-, wow, i feel sorry for you ;)10:05
dud-haha10:05
dud-I love debian10:05
jnkentheon, certainly, just try10:05
dud-but I wanted a decent desktop distro10:05
=== yokomo [everlastin@c68.190.161.195.eau.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== FAST [~gyro_@ip68-4-125-152.oc.oc.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu
entheondud-, fedora is good for desktop too10:05
dud-eh10:06
entheondud-, i just came from FC310:06
entheonit's nice10:06
dud-I hate RPM based distros10:06
entheoni'm trying out all the types of linuxes i can find though10:06
dud-I've dabbled in them in the past10:06
Fator_Deeentheon: fire up synaptic and start installing stuff10:06
entheondud-, that's a dumb hatred, don't hate anything10:06
entheonoooh, ok it's got synaptic10:06
=== HWolf is now known as HiddenWolf
dud-rpm is a cruel cruel joke10:06
dotrighow i apt ?10:06
entheondud-, back taht up with some real proof and then maybe i'll care... rpm worked fine for me all the times i used it10:06
yokomodotrig: sudo apt-get update?10:07
yokomoor sudo apt-get upgrade?10:07
yokomoor sudo apt-get install xxxxx10:07
dud-just use an apt based distro entheon, you'll see10:07
entheonWTF10:07
entheonwhat is my root password10:07
entheonthat's not even funny10:07
dud-no root10:07
jnkentheon, use your own10:07
dud-there is no root acount10:07
Slack_Roxlol10:07
dud-it's sorta like macos10:07
entheonit didn't ask me for a root password10:07
dotrigbeed time10:07
entheonwhat!!!10:07
entheonso what do i use instead of root?10:07
dud-you use sudo for everything10:07
entheonhrm10:07
entheonok10:07
=== bryan_ [~bryan@Toronto-HSE-ppp3915733.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu
entheonso i take it i'm already in the sudoers file10:08
Slack_Roxcool huh10:08
dud-that way kitties can't Hax0r your root account10:08
entheonehh, i guess, i'll have to get used to it10:08
dud-yes10:08
jnkentheon, of course you can activate a root acount with "sudo passwd" then choose a password for root...10:08
entheonyeah, they just hack my user accounts10:08
=== lool [~lool@pig.zood.org] has joined #ubuntu
bryan_anyone here ever used 'captive'?10:08
Slack_RoxI'm going back to slack this shit sucks and slack freaking works...10:08
=== HiddenWolf thinks there really should be documentation about the sudo/root functionality.
entheonjnk, ahh good idea10:08
spadesentheon: sudo passwd root and set one, then su up and enjot10:08
spadesenjoy10:08
Hell-Razorguys using apt-get how would i search for a file10:09
dud-I had my root account generate a random password every 20 minutes on my last box10:09
loolis there a file similar to /etc/debian_version which gives the Ubuntu version (except sources.list)?10:09
dud-apt-cache search stuff10:09
jnkentheon, in synaptic or by editing /etc/apt/sources.list you can select what repositories you want to be able to download from10:09
=== Ohmer [~Homer@ip216-239-89-20.vif.net] has joined #ubuntu
Hell-Razordud-: E: Invalid operation search10:09
dud-did you type it correctly?10:09
jnkHell-Razor, apt-cache not apt-get10:09
dud-apt-cache search10:09
Hell-Razork10:10
siretartJergosh_S:     ~[6~[6~[6~   /sb end10:10
siretart   10:10
siretart[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~/sbe end10:10
siretart[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~/sb end10:10
entheonso what10:10
entheonis ubuntu based on debian?10:10
yokomosiretart: sperm hitting a condom?10:10
dud-jnk: ok my friend got his system up and there is a eth0, but it has no IP10:10
jnkentheon, totally10:10
entheonjnk, interesting10:10
entheonoh well, so much for an original distro10:10
entheonfreakin a10:10
siretartyokomo: nope, connection problems10:10
jnkdud, ok so... do you have a router or somethhing providing DHCP?10:10
=== Crazy_Diamond [sdfsdf@CPE000cf190b8e0-CM014080218964.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu
dud-I think he does10:11
siretartsorry about the noise..10:11
entheonlets see, there's debian, redhat, slackware, and bsd... nothing original has happened in all these years? damn!10:11
jnkdud, try "dhclient eth0"10:11
entheonoh yeah "gentoo" phfhpt10:11
eyequeuebsd != linux10:11
entheoneyequeue, duh10:11
KarlosisI had my CPU scale frequency with Debian's cpufreqd, how is this done in Ubuntu?10:11
entheoneyequeue, i didn't say it = linux :)10:11
Hell-Razoreyequeue: heh10:11
dud-yeah, and there is some good stuff going on with ubuntu10:11
yokomoentheon: so go program something enw10:11
jnkdud, (well of course it is "sudo dhclient eth0")10:11
dud-project utopia10:11
yokomonew*10:11
Hell-Razorbsd || linux10:11
eyequeueentheon:  what exactly are you  looking for in #ubuntu btw?10:11
siretartbtw, I found the netinst images I was looking for: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/10:12
dud-5.04 of ubuntu will be awesome10:12
entheonyokomo, nah, i was just lamenting, i thought maybe there were some actually new distros i hadn't tried10:12
dud-x.org10:12
=== krischan [~krischan@p3E9E5D78.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu
dud-will it have beagle?10:12
entheoneyequeue, i'm just looking for startup pointers, i just installed #ubuntu10:12
entheoneyequeue, i'm on it right now... just testing out various distros to see how they compare10:12
zenroxentheon, read www.ubuntuguide.org10:12
entheoneyequeue, so far nothing has beat FC3 imho, not that FC3 is the greatest...10:12
bryan_i find ubuntu a little bit laggy10:12
entheonzenrox, ok thanx10:13
eyequeueentheon:  if you're looking for something that isn't based upon a history of development, there are many "new" distros, you may enjoy the list at distrowatch10:13
jnkdud, I think 5.10 wil be the really good one... when they get gstreamer working really well, maybe beagle...10:13
entheondamn you guys have all these freakin dual nicks10:13
dud-jnk, it says something about unknown hardware10:13
entheonzenrox, zenwhen10:13
entheondud and dud-10:13
entheonwtf?10:13
dud-wow10:13
dud-another dud?10:13
zenroxlol10:13
dud-1 sec10:13
=== dud- is now known as randin
randinok10:13
randinthere10:13
eyequeueentheon:  that is, if you're not just looking for an excuse to bitch10:13
zenroxzenwhen,  is a differnt person10:13
KarlosisI had my CPU scale frequency with Debian's cpufreqd, how is this done in Ubuntu?10:13
randinless confusing10:13
goldfishu can get gkrellm Karlosis10:13
randinI've always been dud-10:13
goldfishi think that does it10:14
=== siretart [siretart@tauware.de] has left #ubuntu []
entheoneyequeue, i'm always looking for an excuse to bitch :)10:14
t325Crazy_Diamond, bolje da instaliras za pravo, nisam ja nikad koristio pc emulator; valjda ne radi perfektno10:14
entheonactually i've gotten so good in my years of practice10:14
eyequeueentheon:  kindly take it elsewhere, ubuntu is not about that10:14
entheoni no longer need an excuse :)10:14
entheoneyequeue, whatever10:14
randinok, jnk his machine says something about unknown hardware, and it couldn't get any dhoffers, but the rest of the machines in his house workfine10:14
jnkdud, dhclient says unknown hardware? I've never seen that... you may search for the error message on google... or if you know what ip address the computer is supposed to have, you can assign it to it with "sudo ifconfig eth0 up 192.168.1.2" (for example)10:14
Crazy_Diamonddali iko prica ex-yu da mi pomogne10:14
=== xadas [~xadas@frydlantsko.net] has joined #ubuntu
bryan_is there any way to make a ntfs drive read/write for everyone??10:15
randinok10:15
Karlosisgoldfish, this looks like a monitor of CPU, i want something that changes the clockspeed10:15
zenroxjnk,  or go tharu the gnome config10:15
goldfishKarlosis: ooooooooooooh10:15
goldfishapologies10:15
goldfish:/10:15
jnkzenrox, ah I've no idea what one can do there :)10:15
randinok, now if ubuntu had framebuffer on by default, because I'm too lazy to edit the grub file10:16
=== sabdfl [~mark@host217-37-231-28.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has left #ubuntu []
zenroxcange ip put dns etc....10:16
bryan_on ubuntuguide.org it says you can make ntfs read only10:16
KarlosisI think I found it, powernowd10:16
bryan_but not read/write10:16
zenroxbryan_,  that right10:16
zenroxntfs you cant write to it10:16
eyequeuebryan_:  rw has traditionally been unsafe10:16
jnkexcept with a driver that use wine and MS's driver10:17
bryan_so, is there any other workaround other then formatting it?10:17
bryan_jnk: http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/ ?10:17
jnkyeah10:17
eyequeuebryan_:  ask the developers of the format to open their specs, and that can be changed, heh10:17
bryan_it's a 160gb drive, and i've got like 120gb of music on it10:17
=== elmaya [elmaya@201.133.215.125] has joined #ubuntu
bryan_so formatting it is almost out of the question10:17
=== krischan [~krischan@p3E9E5D78.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu
jnkbye10:18
=== mumak [~jml@ppp110-31.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu
eyequeuebryan_:  there are other fs's that are compatible with ms os's and linux, if you prefer10:18
Crazy_Diamonddali iko prica ex-yu da mi pomogne10:18
bryan_well, i switched from windows10:19
bryan_i just want to be able to write to it in linux10:19
=== frans [~frans@249-98.243.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu
goldfishhas to be fat32 i think10:19
goldfishto write10:19
t325if NTFS partition then hard10:19
eyequeuebryan_:  you're effectively saying "i just want to destroy everything on it" with linux10:19
=== Xira- [q@c-24-10-51-201.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
bryan_ok10:20
bryan_poop10:20
=== _mage_afk [~mage@CPE-144-136-44-198.vic.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu
eyequeuebryan_:  writing is possible, but not advisible10:20
=== drspin [~cole@ip68-3-211-180.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu
bryan_alright10:20
randinok, my friend's system always hangs on "configuring network interfaces"10:20
=== Goshawk [~Goshawk@host144-106.pool8253.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu
drspinanyone been able to get Nvu working?10:20
Xira-Hi, will ubuntu support my Radeon 9800 Pro 256mb in at least 2d by default?10:20
eyequeuebryan_:  is the music the primary issue for you?10:20
=== jesuel [~jmaradin@jesuel.user] has joined #ubuntu
bryan_well, that and there's another unused 40gb on it that i'll need eventually10:21
eyequeuebryan_:  if so, there may be an option, though not painless10:21
t325I think resizing is the best option10:21
eyequeuebryan_:  borrow a cd burner from a friend, or take your hd to that friend's ms-based machine, and burn the music to cds.  then you're free to put a more compatible fs on there and use the full drive10:22
jesuelI must be missing something here. Amd64 system, new hoary install, trying to install the fglrx drivers. The system shows that fglrx loads in dmesg, But when I specify for x.org to use the fglrx driver. The system hardlocks up and i have to power it off and reboot it.10:22
goldfishlol10:23
bryan_well, i have a dual layer dvd burner10:23
eyequeuebryan_:  you can of course write the music back to the drive afterward, if you want the convenience factor of it being all there at once10:23
goldfishstill alot of stuff to burn10:23
=== EX-YU [sdfsdf@CPE000cf190b8e0-CM014080218964.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu
bryan_yeah10:23
goldfishbryan_: no-one got a big hd u cud use for a while10:23
bryan_and dual layer discs are like $10/each10:23
Karlosisjesuel, do they already do amd64 at ATI?10:23
eyequeuebryan_:  as i said, not painless, but it does solve the issue10:23
Xira-Hi, will ubuntu support my Radeon 9800 Pro 256mb by default.....?10:23
bryan_guess I'll just buy a new drive then10:23
EX-YUdaliiiii iko ima da mi pomogneeeeeeeeeeeeee10:24
bryan_200gb 16/mb caches are getting cheap10:24
eyequeuebryan_:  personally, i'd go with cheap media, since it's a short term burning really10:24
jesuelKarlosis, doesnt say they do, but there is suppsosed to be support in amd64 hoary for ati's fglrx driver10:24
AmaranthXira-: Yeah, and with a quick call to apt-get it should support it for 3D too using ATI's binary driver.10:24
=== phester_ [~phester@h157n2fls32o827.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu
drspinbryan_: you can donate your old one to me ;)10:24
Xira-Amaranth: thx :D10:24
t325bryan_, to resize partition run chkdsk c: or d: or whathever: in windoze, then install qtparted or the partition editor of ur choice in linux, then resize the partition10:25
Xira-Also, which build of Ubuntu do you guys reccomend?10:25
Karlosisah... didn't know that, jesuel , i too have ATI and amd6410:25
eyequeuebryan_:  of course, if money isn'at a factor, get another hd, trasfer the data to it, and make an ext2 partition where the ntfs one now is, and transfer the data back10:25
Xira-I'm just going to be using it as a desktop linux10:25
eyequeuet325:  he speaks as though his ms is gone10:25
=== JordanAU [~Jordan@cable-24-181-119-185.abr.al.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu
bryan_yeah, i kicked windows to the curb10:25
goldfishi still have it for games10:26
=== Ohmer [~Homer@ip216-239-89-20.vif.net] has joined #ubuntu
jesuelAmaranth, You mention that that ati binary driver should work10:26
jesuelAmaranth, im getting a hardlock on my system when i try to use it. :(10:26
Xira-What's the diffrence of warty/jigit/4.10??10:26
eyequeuebryan_:  but as i implied, if you're the social type, borrowing a drive from a friend for a bit can be your solution (hd, if not cd)10:26
Amaranthnothing10:26
Amaranthjigit is a way of getting it10:26
Xira-Nothing? O_o10:26
Xira-Oh10:27
Xira-lol :P10:27
Amaranthwarty is the name and 4.10 is the version10:27
Xira-Wow, it's only 1cd? :)10:27
=== Draucon [~Draucon@dialup-free-259.nmsu.edu] has joined #ubuntu
=== NetGeek [~dbasinge@xlaptop45.lib.utah.edu] has joined #ubuntu
drspinYAY vmware :)10:28
Karlosisjesuel, which package is it?10:28
drspinpublic beta = FREE :)10:28
eyequeueXira-:  there is a livecd, and there is an install cd.  be careful to get the one you want10:28
bryan_thanks for the help guys10:28
Xira-http://source.rfc822.org/pub/mirror/releases.ubuntu.com/warty/warty-release-install-i386.iso is the install cd right?10:28
Hell-Razorhrm does anybody here have cedega running steam?10:28
NetGeekwould people suggest getting an ATI (9600 XT) card over an nvidia card?10:28
Xira-NetGeek: for *nix?10:29
bryan_Xira-, yes10:29
Xira-no10:29
goldfishHell-Razor: blizah mentioned it earlier10:29
=== Guinea [~andrew@p508F2B53.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu
Xira-not if you're going to use *nix10:29
=== koos_the_rea [~up@c1-rba-218.absamail.co.za] has joined #Ubuntu
Xira-If you're going to use *nix get nVidia10:29
JordanAUokay after many hours of work i have managed to get ndiswrapper deb file on my new ubuntu install. How do i run it? should i use synaptic and make my folder where the file is a repository???10:29
Xira-better driver support10:29
NetGeekXira-: the driver for ATI still suck?10:29
Xira-well10:29
Xira-pretty much10:29
Hell-RazorXira-: ati runs good on linux, just a pain in the fucking ass to install10:29
eyequeueJordanAU:  "run"?  you mean install?10:29
bryan_yeah10:29
JordanAUyes10:29
jesuelHell-Razor,  aye10:29
Xira-they're not the greatest thing in the world10:29
Guineachecking for GLIB - version >= 1.2.2... no10:29
Guinea*** The glib-config script installed by GLIB could not be found10:29
Guinea*** If GLIB was installed in PREFIX, make sure PREFIX/bin is in10:29
Guinea*** your path, or set the GLIB_CONFIG environment variable to the10:29
Guinea*** full path to glib-config.10:29
Guineaconfigure: error: *** GLIB >= 1.2.2 not installed - please install first ***10:29
bryan_i need to install something for my ati video10:30
bryan_i need to get out of 1024x76810:30
eyequeueGuinea:  don't flood please10:30
NetGeekI can get the ATI $70 cheaper than a comparable nvidia card10:30
GuineaSorry.10:30
Xira-THe reason I got this Ati Radeon 9800 Pro 256mb is because I got it for $80 USD from an nVidia fanboy back when this card was like 300$+10:30
bryan_i need my 1280x1024 back10:30
GuineaI didn't intend to.10:30
koos_the_reahoary-install-i386.iso hope this is the right one10:30
JordanAUeyequeue: yes10:30
eyequeueJordanAU:  you run dpkg to do that :)  "sudo dpkg --install foo.deb"10:30
JordanAUdpkg10:30
JordanAUgreat10:30
eyequeueJordanAU:  foo.deb being ndis*10:31
GuineaSo, I get the message above... What do I have to do?10:31
JordanAUperfect10:31
=== drspin wishes my ISA sound card would work
Xira-So 4.10 is only 1cd to confirm, right?10:31
=== bear [~bear@pcp08490351pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
drspinXira-: yes10:31
eyequeueJordanAU:  welcome to ubuntu btw :)10:31
Xira-And you can setup a dual boot with XP from the install easily?10:31
ompaulkoos_the_rea, it is the right one for downloading if you have choosen it from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/hoary/array-6/ if it is array 6 you want10:31
JordanAUi will rebooy into linux and hopefully will be back with good news10:31
hawke_Guinea: install libglib-dev10:31
JordanAUthanks for the welcome10:31
eyequeueXira-:  correct, 1 live cd OR 1 install cd (which do differ)10:31
=== JordanAU [~Jordan@cable-24-181-119-185.abr.al.charter.com] has left #ubuntu []
Xira-I'm on XP with 20gb or so of unpartitoned space, will it be easy for me to setup a dual boot in Ubuntu in the setup?10:32
bearis anyone having "connection refused" errors trying to apt-get update (from us.archive.ubuntu.com) ?10:32
eyequeueXira-:  easy is opinion, but i think you'll find it easy if you're not a complete novice, and it sounds like you're not10:32
=== FireEgl [Ariel@2001:5c0:84dc:2:0:0:0:0] has joined #Ubuntu
Xira-I've installed Fedora and Mandrake before10:32
Xira-heh10:33
GuineaHawke: It is installed...10:33
randinwhere is mplayer?10:33
randinuniverse?10:33
randinor someplace else?10:33
eyequeueXira-:  you'll find it different,but well-within your ability, imo10:33
Xira-k10:33
Xira-thx :)10:33
koos_the_reaok thanx10:33
Xira-I finally grew some balls and resized my partition to make 20gb free for *nix10:33
Xira-:P10:34
eyequeueheh10:34
Xira-and luckily it worked10:34
drspinXira -- I need a place to put 50G of data so I can bag my NTFS10:34
NetGeekis there a mplayer deb with the graphical interface enabled in warty?10:34
Xira-drspin: external hd!10:34
eyequeueNetGeek:  not precisely10:34
Xira-15mins left till Ubuntu is done10:35
Xira-<3 comcast10:35
bryan_how come ati only released their new linux drivers in rpm format?10:35
=== andrewski [~andrewski@pool-70-110-170-191.phil.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== maximaus [~max@user-37kacre.dialup.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu
bryan_how do i use a rpm on deb/ubuntu10:35
goldfishbryan_: use alien10:35
drspinXira-: no $$ to fund such a project ;)10:35
eyequeueNetGeek:  being "non-free" it's not in the official repositories, but it is easy to add the repository you need following the instructions on the wiki10:35
drspin46.6G of data to be exact10:35
Amaranthbryan_: alien file.rpm10:35
Amaranthbryan_: It'll generate a .deb file10:36
Xira-Amaranth: So I can install the ATI Binary drivers through apt-get?10:36
bryan_then i do dpkg --install file.deb?10:36
AmaranthXira-: Yeah. I think you have to enable multiverse first though.10:36
=== ermo [~ermo@3E6B20D4.rev.stofanet.dk] has left #ubuntu ["*p00f*"]
eyequeuebryan_:  bingo :)  btw, dpkg -i is less typing for the same thing, if you see it mentioned10:36
Xira-I'll be asking those questions after I get it installed :P10:36
NetGeekeyequeue: get the hoary one for warty?10:37
Xira-I'm typing in windows right now10:37
Xira-and the red sheild icon in my tray is scaring me and telling me I don't have an antivirus10:37
=== Gman_ [~Glynn@amfea-proxy-2.sun.com] has joined #ubuntu
eyequeueNetGeek:  no, warty has it as well, i believe10:37
Xira-It also told me I suck10:37
=== horay_tester [~adham@p83.129.185.41.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #ubuntu
Xira-:(10:37
goldfishlol10:37
eyequeueNetGeek:  there is even an mplayer plugin for mozilla/firefox, iirc10:37
=== Levander [~cponder@user-11fatc1.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu
bryan_bleh, it crashed10:38
=== avirox [~avirox@pool-141-149-59-105.ny325.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu
aviroxhi all10:38
bryan_dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)10:38
goldfishhai10:38
andrewskihey10:38
aviroxI'm having problems in ubuntu with my web connection10:38
=== potsed [~potsed@c1-pmb-31.absamail.co.za] has joined #ubuntu
NetGeekeyequeue: the wiki page I found was for hoary mplayer in warty10:38
aviroxfor soem reason it seems to hang a lot10:38
eyequeueNetGeek:  generally, it's best not to mix warty and hoary10:38
andrewskiavirox: what kind of connection?10:38
horay_testerHi, I am both new to ubuntu (and debian) and testing hoary on a laptop. So far WOW! great.. but there are some issues.10:38
aviroxlike, gAIM and synaptic wont load right away usually10:38
aviroxandrewski, PPP10:38
Xira-Once I get Ubuntu installed, will it be easy to read from my NTFS partition?10:38
aviroxDSL10:38
=== AndyR [~andrew@rogers666.plus.com] has joined #ubuntu
eyequeueNetGeek:  hmmm, you can try i supose, but i'd first see if you can find a waty one10:39
AndyRlo all10:39
andrewskiavirox: are they dialing in?  or is it already connected10:39
andrewskihey AndyR10:39
andrewskiAndyR: nice name :)10:39
horay_testerI made somechjnges to the acpi directories, and somehow the upgrade from synaptic does not override my chnges! is there a way to reset the changes???10:39
aviroxright now im downloading an update at 600 bytes a second, a minute ago it wa 40kb/s ~10:39
aviroxandrewski, already conencted10:39
AndyRandrewski, :)10:39
eyequeueXira-:  read yes, write no.  you first mount it with -t ntfs10:39
aviroxi made it do so at bootup10:39
andrewskiavirox: can you ping your gateway?10:39
Xira-I don't need to write10:40
aviroxer.. how?10:40
Xira-I just need access to my music10:40
Xira-and .docs10:40
goldfishXira-: yep10:40
blizahcan i update firefox w/ out going to hoary?10:40
andrewskiavirox: do you know the IP of your gateway?10:40
aviroxnope10:40
blizahk, tnx10:40
andrewskiavirox: ok, open up networking10:40
eyequeueblizah:  you may be interested in the backports project, see the wiki10:40
andrewskiblizah: that wasn't at you.  you can. :)10:40
=== ben_d [~ben@cpe-66-66-209-96.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
andrewskiblizah: ^^^ see what eyequeue said.10:40
aviroxok10:41
aviroxnow?10:41
bearis us.archive.ubuntu.com down? I'm getting connection refused from apt-get update10:41
goldfishXira-: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountntfs10:41
andrewskiavirox: whenever you want help :)10:41
drspinis there a good tutorial for managing my files on linux...10:41
andrewskidrspin: what do you mean "managing"?10:41
andrewskidrspin: where to put stuff?10:41
eyequeuedrspin:  "managing"?10:41
aviroxhmm it sez i have 2 dns servers10:41
andrewskiavirox: yes, but what's your gateway?10:41
andrewskiavirox: can you find that?10:42
aviroxsays "default gateway device: eth0"10:42
andrewskiavirox: ok, then open the properties for eth0 :)10:42
eyequeueandrewski:  we're overlapping a bit :)  i'm off to find food, leaving the world in your good hands :)10:42
andrewskiavirox: at the bottom is "gateway"10:42
=== entheon [~entheon@h000625908e5c.ne.client2.attbi.com] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
andrewskieyequeue: heh :) i want you to know i was faster. :)10:43
avirox"Gateway" is greyed10:43
aviroxsince it's on DHCP10:43
eyequeueheh10:43
andrewskiavirox: oh, right.10:43
andrewskieyequeue: ;)10:43
avirox?10:43
andrewskiavirox: open up a terminal then10:43
aviroxk10:44
blizahah cool10:44
blizahis it stable?10:44
andrewskiavirox: ifconfig eth010:44
blizah(the backports project)10:44
=== _mage_afk is now known as _mage_work
aviroxroot@ubuntu:/home/avirox # ipconfig eth010:44
aviroxbash: ipconfig: command not found10:44
andrewskiblizah: there are many people using it, if that's what you mean.  it's the same package as hoary.10:44
andrewskiavirox: yes, iFconfig10:44
Vjazavirox: it's ifconfig10:44
=== x4m [~max@168.159-200-80.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu
aviroxoooh10:44
Vjazavirox: interface-config, I think10:44
aviroxsorry10:44
aviroxghehe10:44
andrewskiavirox: you're not in windows anymore, toto... i mean avirox. :P10:45
avirox;)10:45
aviroxroot@ubuntu:/home/avirox # ifconfig eth010:45
aviroxeth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:0F:EA:48:9F:1F10:45
avirox          inet addr:192.168.1.46  Bcast:255.255.255.255  Mask:255.255.255.010:45
avirox          inet6 addr: fe80::20f:eaff:fe48:9f1f/64 Scope:Link10:45
avirox          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:110:45
avirox          RX packets:8069 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:010:45
avirox          TX packets:5363 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:010:45
avirox          collisions:0 txqueuelen:100010:45
avirox          RX bytes:10424391 (9.9 MiB)  TX bytes:445131 (434.6 KiB)10:45
avirox          Interrupt:22 Base address:0xa00010:45
andrewskiooh... you didn't need to post it all. :D10:45
aviroxsry@spam10:45
aviroxguess I should have MSGd that hehe10:45
randinor a pastebin10:45
Xira-<3 pastebin10:45
=== Quest-Master [~qmaster@c-24-99-26-36.atl.client2.attbi.com] has joined #ubuntu
Blissexavirox: excessive paste, and most  of the lines are useless.10:46
andrewskiBlissex: yes, he realised that.10:46
aviroxandrewski, so does it look ok?10:46
Xira-Blissex: a little behind are we? :)10:46
=== ajmitch__ [~ajmitch@port164-182.ubs.maxnet.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu
BlissexXira-: stating the obvious in a summary can reinforce the message... :-)10:47
andrewskiavirox: ok, so try to ping the DNS servers.  'ping -c 10 ###.##.###.##'10:47
Xira-Blissex: True. :P10:47
=== ajmitch__ is now known as ajmitch
andrewskiBlissex: but it had already been restated. :P10:47
=== HcE [egtvedt@tux.samfundet.no] has joined #ubuntu
=== TongMaster [~TongMaste@home.waugh.id.au] has joined #ubuntu
andrewskiavirox: you still have networking open?  the dns servers are in there.  ping both.10:47
drspineyequeue: andrewski: I mean I want to free up some space on my comp... aside from $home where else can I look for stuff to delete?10:48
aviroxk10:48
andrewskiavirox: when you're done, paste the last two lines.10:48
andrewskiavirox: for each. :)10:48
aviroxrgr10:48
andrewskidrspin: sudo apt-get clean10:48
andrewskidrspin: that will delete the package files for anything installed.10:49
avirox10 packets transmitted, 10 received, 0% packet loss, time 9008ms10:49
aviroxrtt min/avg/max/mdev = 8.566/9.363/10.262/0.549 ms10:49
andrewskidrspin: other than that, /tmp has some stuff...10:49
aviroxand for the second one..10:49
avirox10 packets transmitted, 10 received, 0% packet loss, time 9009ms10:49
aviroxrtt min/avg/max/mdev = 18.204/19.169/19.742/0.518 ms10:49
andrewskiavirox: try the second one again.10:49
aviroxk10:50
andrewski@all: how does one find the gateway IP on DHCP?10:50
avirox10 packets transmitted, 10 received, 0% packet loss, time 9000ms10:50
aviroxrtt min/avg/max/mdev = 18.443/19.042/19.680/0.441 ms10:50
bryan_gateway is usually 192.168.0.110:50
=== R0bNyc [~jkd@pool-162-84-180-205.ny5030.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu
andrewskiavirox: nothing there looks bad, those are all pretty low values.10:50
andrewskiavirox: are you on a router?10:50
aviroxshould i even have 2 dns servers?10:50
EX-YUdali iko prica moj jezil10:50
andrewskiavirox: dunno; i have 2. :P10:51
EX-YUDALI IKO PRICA MOJ JEZIK10:51
R0bNycanyonehere got gnomebaker?10:51
=== bear [~bear@pcp08490351pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
Xira-Another question, how is setting up dual boot in Ubuntu work?10:51
Levanderandrewski: /sbin/ip route10:51
andrewskiXira-: there's a howto on the website.10:51
andrewskiLevander: thanks.10:51
Levanderandrewski: "default via" lists gateway10:52
andrewskiavirox: try that ^^^10:52
LevanderXira-: to complicated for here, check what andrewski said10:52
=== jesuel [~jmaradin@jesuel.user] has joined #ubuntu
andrewskiXira-: post back if you have trouble finding it.10:52
=== gilles [~gilles@lab75-3-82-235-26-179.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu
jesuelsweet, got ati's fglrx drivers working now :)10:53
Levandermy /etc/hosts file gets overwritten every time i reboot, anybody know what tool I can use to configure this overwriting?10:53
=== ender_ [~ender@112.Red-83-39-252.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu
andrewskiavirox: brb.10:53
jesuelmy laptop is happy :)10:53
ender_hi10:53
=== tck [~tck@213-202-182-160.bas504.dsl.esat.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== carthik [~carthik@r1.adminz.net] has joined #ubuntu
bryan_jesuel, how!10:53
ender_nas10:53
clparkerhow do i get GNOME terminal?10:53
jesuelbryan_,  what do you mean how?10:53
tckanyone play a divx file on ubunut10:53
tck*ubuntu10:53
bryan_horay or warty?10:53
HrdwrBoBclparker: you already have it10:53
Levandernevermind, i found it, Computer -> System Configuration -> Networking10:54
tckhave an .avi encoded with divx, having problems playing it10:54
clparkerhow do i run GNOME terminal?10:54
goldfishclparker: Applications > Sys tools > terminal10:54
jesuelbryan_, hoary10:54
ender_i ve just installed ubuntu but it didn't ask me for a root password, there is any one default?10:54
HrdwrBoBclparker: right click on desktop, open terminal10:54
bryan_ohh10:54
bryan_ok10:54
clparkeroh ok.10:54
andrewskiavirox: you still there? :)10:54
=== saad [~saad@zeff.docisland.org] has joined #ubuntu
goldfishender_: no root account as default10:55
Fator_Deeender_: you use sudo10:55
clparkeri saw screen shots of a program that said GNOME terminal at the top10:55
gillesNext month, when Hoary will be released, how should I do to upgrade my Warty ?10:55
goldfishthe root pass is your accunt pass10:55
HrdwrBoBwell not quite10:55
=== qpid [~dfgdfgdfg@d463c125.datahighways.de] has joined #ubuntu
HrdwrBoBthere is no root password10:55
ender_oh, ok10:55
goldfishwell10:55
goldfishsorry10:55
HrdwrBoBbut sudo will get you root access with your password10:55
Xira-andrewski: Looks confusing :x10:55
ender_the user is directly the root?10:56
=== art-777 [~art@83-145-187-16.cable-modem.tkk.net.pl] has joined #ubuntu
goldfishXira-: It's easy enough.10:56
=== pere [~pere@217-13-7-10.dd.nextgentel.com] has joined #ubuntu
goldfishender_: nope10:56
goldfishender_: sudo to root10:56
goldfishwell10:56
pereanyone here involved with popcon in ubuntu?10:56
ender_whats sudo?10:56
goldfishoh right10:56
ender_im not english ;)10:56
Fator_Deeman sudo10:56
randinsudo is superuser do!10:56
ender_ok10:56
randinyou do stuff as root10:56
goldfishI:m not eNgliSH!10:57
randinthe way things should be done10:57
ender_ok10:57
Xira-goldfish: I have 1 huge NTFS partition and 20gb of Unpartitioned space, I plan to install Ubuntu on that space, so what else do I need to change in terms of partitions?10:57
ender_thanks10:57
HrdwrBoBXira-: nothing, just tell ubuntu to use that spae10:57
goldfishXira-: leave it as empty space10:57
HrdwrBoBspace10:57
=== Slaven [~gatubarn@h165n4fls31o1041.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu
goldfishubuntu install disk will do everythng for you10:57
Xira-What else will I have to do on those instructions then?10:57
=== seb128 [~seb128@ANancy-151-1-29-88.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu
Xira-for dual boot to work10:57
goldfishwhat instructions?10:58
Xira-http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/WindowsDualBootHowTo/view?searchterm=dual%20boot10:58
goldfishXira-: u have 20 gigs of unpartitioned space, yes?10:58
=== migien [~migien@231.Red-217-126-136.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu
Xira-yes10:59
andrewskiavirox: alright, you'll have to have someone else help you.10:59
goldfishXira-: just stick in the ubuntu disk10:59
goldfishXira-: let it partition the empty space for you11:00
=== thierry [~t@modemcable026.12-202-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu
Xira-Well will the Ubuntu installer ask me if I want to dual boot using grub or w/e?11:00
=== mdke [~mdke@mdke.user] has joined #ubuntu
=== cao30 [~cao30@213.194.162.198] has joined #ubuntu
art-777Hi. I can't configure gnome menu -  Ubuntu 5.04. "nautilus applications:///" do not work. Can anybody hel me ?11:01
goldfishXira-: it will install grub auto11:01
cao30hello ppl11:01
Xira-and grub will do the dual boot thing auto?11:01
mdkewho has good knowledge about the difference between the mplayer-ubuntu build and the mplayer-woody build in mplayer?11:01
goldfishXira-: yep11:01
Xira-k11:01
goldfishXira-: u dual booting with xp ?11:01
Xira-goldfish: I plan to11:01
Xira-I'm on XP right now11:01
goldfishwell grub shud detect windows auto for you11:01
Xira-k11:01
goldfishk cool11:01
Xira-Anything ele I need to know?11:01
goldfishi do the same11:01
Xira-Before I boot from the cd11:01
thierryhow do I set up my printer?11:01
goldfishnot really11:01
Xira-k11:01
Xira-bbs then, gonna install11:02
LinuxJonesart-777, nobody has an answer11:02
cao30i'm connecting to the net through an external router, how can I know which dynamic IP address my ISP assigned to me?11:02
goldfishXira-: the installation cd is fairly straight forward11:02
Xira-k11:02
=== joaocruz [~joao@ip68-0-220-224.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu
Xira-wish me luck :)11:02
=== pere [~pere@217-13-7-10.dd.nextgentel.com] has left #ubuntu ["Client]
goldfishXira-: good luck :)11:02
cao30good luck :)11:02
goldfishcao30: www.whatismyip.org11:02
cao30hum.. I need to guess it via command line11:02
goldfish:)11:02
goldfishem11:03
cao30just to launch ez-ipupdate11:03
goldfishifconfig doesnt doesnt show it, it seems11:03
=== [FiDO] [~paul@PMccl5133.ResNet.Dal.Ca] has joined #ubuntu
cao30no, it just gives my local net address (10.0.0.3)11:03
goldfishone sec, ill ask my linux friends :)11:03
goldfishim a n00b11:03
=== fajmoh [fajmoh@h237n2fls31o1009.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== joaocruz [~joao@ip68-0-220-224.ri.ri.cox.net] has left #ubuntu []
=== JordanAU [~Jordan@cable-24-181-119-185.abr.al.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== DeFi[gsr-pro] [~exiled@ip68-6-40-245.sb.sd.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== iceaxe18 [~iceaxe18@c-24-18-111-235.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== andreas [~andreas@0x5358c7d7.kjnxx5.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu
andreasGood evening11:07
cao30good evening11:07
horay_tester Good evening11:08
schasiGood evening11:08
andreasI was wondering if any of yu guys knew of a decent RSS program that integrates with the desktop?11:08
JordanAUgood evening11:08
horay_testerwith KDE there is akregator,11:08
andreasSo polite...;-)11:08
horay_testerwith gnome??!??!!? dont know11:08
apokryphosandreas: depends on whether you're using Gnome/kde. Not sure about gnome, but kde has akregator.11:08
[FiDO] ok I'm havig a problem with my tv audio11:08
=== error_29 [~bru@24-90-94-112.nyc.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
andreasHmm... I am actually using Gnome11:08
horay_testerwhere to report ubunto hoary problems????11:09
[FiDO] for some reason its trying to use the wrong device does anyone have any idea how I would force it to cange11:09
horay_testerTV is beyond me sorry..11:09
apokryphoshoray_tester: depends on what they are. Perhaps filing a bug-report. What's the problem?11:09
=== Lain82 [Lain82@lns-vlq-5-tou-82-64-205-200.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== mameluke [~bo@84-72-14-216.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #ubuntu
horay_testerwindow focus steeling for example, and some other little things, like when I add some applets to the panel the gnome panels would freeze11:10
=== dchlase [~Dan@c-67-162-235-5.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== thierry [~t@modemcable026.12-202-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu
thierryhow can I set up my printer?11:11
=== joe__ [~joe@82-47-218-214.cable.ubr01.shef.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu
=== mdke [~mdke@mdke.user] has joined #ubuntu
=== joe__ is now known as thorN
=== Guybrush|Numb [~franz@host78-184.pool62211.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu
mdkewhat does Sounder CD9 mean? <-- sorry my net connection went down for a moment. Did anyone answer this?11:12
horay_testerAnd another problem, which might be my ignorance is related to synaptic, I playes with the /etc/acpi dir, and further updates of the acpi even reinstall would not restore the original files, its as if it remembers it? how to reset it?11:12
=== kild [~fran@20.Red-80-26-73.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== YankDownUnder [~stephen@d220-237-210-77.dsl.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu
=== nT [~entius@240.Red-80-25-99.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu
horay_testerWhere to get info on the changes in the updated software in Ubuntu?11:13
kentthierry, in the menu, you should find a program called printer or something like that.11:14
ssamyou should get change logs in hoary now, in synaptic11:14
apokryphoshoray_tester: also, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HoaryHedgehog has a lot of the basic stuff.11:14
mdkewhat does Sounder CD9 mean? <-- sorry my net connection went down for a moment. Did anyone answer this?11:15
=== carlos [~carlos@george.kkhotels.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu
andreasAlso comes when you hit the "terminal" button while updating. (soing as we speak)11:15
JordanAUis the kernel source available on the warty cd?11:16
error_29folks, gnome is trying to wear me out or induce epilepsy with animations, and I can't turn them off-- help11:16
goldfishuse fluxbox11:16
goldfish:)11:16
goldfishwell11:16
error_29in Gconfig, I unchecked this thing: "enable animations"-- but, panels still animate when I hide/unhide them11:17
=== Ivy6Quaff [~Sir@c906a0a6.virtua.com.br] has joined #ubuntu
andreasDoes anyone know how to install a new login theme from art.gnome?11:17
=== michael__ [~michael@pD9E5D9A4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== dampjam [~walter@adsl-157-56-49.msy.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu
error_29and,- this makes me crazy- I can't find a way to get windows to just minimize, without a very distracting animation effect-- what gives?11:17
LinuxJonesandreas, in gdmsetup11:17
=== Guinea [~andrew@p508F2B53.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #ubuntu []
dampjamWhat ubuntu packages contains the javac binary to create jar files?11:18
andreaslinuxjones: You`ll have to guide me to that.11:18
andreasCan`t see it11:18
LinuxJonesandreas, sudo gdmsetup in console11:18
drspinAnyone been able to get Nvu to work on Warty?11:19
scorpix_what the differents between universe and multiverse?11:19
andreasThere we go... Thanks!11:19
=== mcphail [~mcphail@81-178-110-28.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ubuntu
LinuxJones;)11:19
mdkedrspin, i tried and failed on hoary11:20
vincent_scorpix_: in multiverse there is non-free software, i think11:20
=== tjs [~tjs@deepde.lnk.telstra.net] has joined #ubuntu
jesus\what do i install to get a java virtual machine?11:21
drspinmdke: doesn't work on Warty either :(11:21
zenroxjesus\,  read www.ubuntuguide.org for installing java11:21
jesus\thanks11:21
goldfishjesus\: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#jre11:21
kent*ggrr* Some cd-rw drives should not be allowed to say they can burn in high speeds. Last night I f*cked my third CD, and it seems that if I just burn in a lower speed everything will work just fine.11:22
=== kez [~kez@host-84-9-85-114.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu
JordanAUwhat is the kernel version of warty11:23
andreas.11:23
=== xiaoyu [~xiaoyu@lab75-3-82-235-26-179.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu
andreas2.611:23
=== jblack [~jblack@static-209-158-45-74.scr.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu
kezHi chaps, having a little issue with my user permissions on some vfat mounts. The mount string in fstab is fine, but the two folders in /mnt are not - i've chgrpd them to users and chownd them my user repeatedly, but they keep getting reverted to root11:23
phosphorgreenJordanAU: uname -a11:23
thierrykent, Idont find anything like that, for printer11:23
JordanAUcrap gotta reboot to linux11:23
JordanAUbut uname -1 will give the kernel version11:24
andreasI once saw a really cool login featurin a cup of coffee on a white background but i cannot find it now. Anyone?11:24
JordanAUi mean uname -a11:24
jblackHi. I'm having trouble with hotplug the drivers for my ipw2200 every time I upgrade the kernel. Instead, I end up having to update symlinks. I understand that hotplug is supposed to handle that automatically.11:24
tjsgday, just trying to install warty on a machine with an adaptec SATA hardware raid controller. Ive configured raid 1 in the bios utility, mirroring both disks, and when I run custom-expert installer I notice that its loading ata_piix raid controller modules, however when I get to partitioning the disk it represents it as sda and sdb11:24
kentthierry, Im not on ubuntu warty so I cant help you with where it is, but im sure its there some where..  In Computer somewhere? I have it in System->Administration, but Im using the unstable branch of Ubuntu, so Its a bit diffrent from yours..11:24
=== Funraiser [~tom@81.56.196.103] has joined #ubuntu
JordanAUand then to install the source all i have to do is download the correct version off of kernel.org and tar correct?11:25
thierrykent, got it thanks11:25
=== waseem [~waseem@cpe-67-49-36-167.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
phosphorgreenJordanAU: I think you need to read a few things11:25
phosphorgreendownload the kernel source package with synaptic11:25
JordanAUi have been readin all day11:25
phosphorgreenthat will save you some time11:25
JordanAUi cant i dont have ndiswrapper yet11:26
=== lupusBE [~lupus@dD5E03F2C.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu
phosphorgreenwell it'll be much easier to use the ubuntu kernel-source rather than the one from kernel.org, trust me11:26
waseemHi I'm trying to connect my calculator using tilp, and I'm getting the error message: Msg: Timeout occured while writing to the device.11:26
waseemCause: Check that your link cable is plugged and/or the calculator is ready. I checked the faq for the program and the answer to this problem was to Check nodes permissions (/dev/ttySx). Can anyone here walk me through the process? Thanks.11:26
JordanAUi have finally gotten the deb package installed ndiswrapper-source_1.1-1_i386.deb11:26
JordanAUnow i have to comile it and i need the kernel source11:27
phosphorgreenis it a wifi card you are installing?11:27
JordanAUcomile/compile11:27
JordanAUyes11:27
phosphorgreenwhy don't you get a decent wifi card11:27
=== chlunde [~chlunde@nemi.ping.uio.no] has joined #ubuntu
phosphorgreensave yourself the bother11:27
=== funky_ [~funky@chello084112057137.32.11.vie.surfer.at] has joined #ubuntu
phosphorgreenkernel compilation follow these main steps:11:27
JordanAUi already have toe wifi card11:27
JordanAUtoe/the11:27
waseemcan anyone here help emw tih the problem?11:27
phosphorgreen1) tar zxf kernel-blah.tar.gz11:27
JordanAUi have had it for a year11:27
phosphorgreenget a better one11:27
JordanAUthis is a new install11:27
phosphorgreen2) make menuconfig11:28
phosphorgreen3) make11:28
JordanAUis linksys not good?11:28
phosphorgreen4) make modules11:28
phosphorgreen5) make bzImage11:28
phosphorgreen6) make install11:28
=== funky_ [~funky@chello084112057137.32.11.vie.surfer.at] has left #ubuntu ["Verlassend"]
chlundeIs there a problem with launchpad/registration?  I'm not getting an email.11:28
=== wasabi_ [~wasabi@207.55.180.100] has joined #ubuntu
phosphorgreenmake sure you do the right stuff in menuconfig or you will be right back at the beginning.11:28
zenroxJordanAU,  read the www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki and look for kernel how to11:28
wasabi_Does warty x86 support installing over a serial cable?11:29
=== Suvroc [Corvus@85.86.233.133] has joined #ubuntu
=== AndyR has a linksys wusb54g that works with ndiswrappers
phosphorgreenThere is nothing seriously wrong with your card, your chipset is not natively supported, thats why you have to use ndiswrapper11:29
=== maximaus [~max@user-37kacpt.dialup.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu
phosphorgreenit would be a lot nicer if you got something like a Cisco Aironet 350 or even a Prism 2 based card.11:29
=== Hell-Razor [~justin@66-188-89-111.mad.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu
phosphorgreenif you get one of those, you can pop it in and hey presto, it just works.11:30
phosphorgreenno compiling11:30
Hell-Razorcan somebody help me out installing the ati-drivers. I wen to there website and used alien to install the rpm but i am getting an error nwo11:30
plex0r_i have..11:31
plex0r_a system that is on windows XP11:31
plex0r_and i ahve lots of files on11:31
plex0r_is there a way to dual boot ubuntu11:31
plex0r_without deleting11:31
wasabi_Does warty x86 support installing over a serial cable? I want to try it. ;)11:31
wasabi_plex0r_, resize the winxp partition or get a second hd11:31
horay_testerthanks11:31
horay_testerapokryphos: thanks11:32
plex0r_ok ty11:32
=== djp [~david@dynamic-62-56-49-189.park-s46b.dslaccess.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu
=== kez [~kez@host-84-9-85-114.bulldogdsl.com] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
plex0r_how much will i need for ubuntu11:32
farruinnHell-Razor: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto ought to help11:32
wasabi_few gigs.11:32
plex0r_GB11:32
JordanAUphosphorgreen: thank you i will be trying that shorty11:32
wasabi_you'll want more though11:32
plex0r_say 10?11:32
wasabi_10 is enough.11:32
=== chlunde [~chlunde@nemi.ping.uio.no] has left #ubuntu []
=== JordanAU [~Jordan@cable-24-181-119-185.abr.al.charter.com] has left #ubuntu []
plex0r_ok...and ill format that in linux11:32
mdkewho knows something about mp3 encoding? is it necessary to install gstreamer-lame, or is the package "lame" sufficient for this purpose?11:32
plex0r_then i gotta make a linux swap?11:33
=== boglot [~logbot@gw.workaround.org] has joined #ubuntu
Hell-Razorfarruinn: ty11:33
error_29In gnome, is there a quick way to shutdown metacity, and start up another window manager, without logging out?  and how do I get another window manager to run as default under gnome in warty?11:33
=== billytwowilly [~chris@S0106000c413a2c0c.ed.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== Beirdo [~gjhurlbu@beirdo.user] has joined #ubuntu
HrdwrBoBerror_29: killall metacity; other_wm &11:33
=== Kokey [~ubunturer@dsl-200-78-65-251.prod-infinitum.com.mx] has joined #ubuntu
mjr"lame" is sufficient, but you may need gstreamer-lame for programs that use gstreamer for encoding11:34
djpmdke: http://ubuntuguide.org/11:34
tjsHow can I get the installer to prompt for drivers from another cd?11:34
=== Xira- [q@c-24-10-51-201.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu
Xira-Okay guys11:34
horay_testerbye11:34
Xira-I installed it, everything went fine, including grub11:34
HrdwrBoBtjs: for what?11:34
mdkemjr, thank you. Do you know which programs use gstreamer for encoding?11:34
mjrerror_29, you need to set metacity as a non-respawning process from session properties before doing what HrdwrBoB suggested, to have it working reliably11:34
Xira-But when it says it's starting Gnome or X or whatever11:35
error_29thanks, HrdwrBoB,... is that "&" part of a command?11:35
Xira-My screen just turns off11:35
mjrmdke, no11:35
Xira-Can someone help me?11:35
=== Xira- sighs
HrdwrBoBerror_29: yep, that will send the other_wm into the background11:35
mdkemjr, ok thanks for your help anyway11:35
=== maximaus [~max@user-37kacpt.dialup.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu
mjrmdke, just install the gstreamer package anyway :)11:35
djpXira: what is the problem?11:35
farruinnerror_29: to make it permanent use gconf11:35
error_29Thanks, folks11:35
farruinnerror_29: gnome>apps>window manager>default iirc11:35
Beirdohas anyone seen snmpd zombie all the time?  I'm trying warty on an AMD6411:35
Xira-Hi, I installed Ubuntu dualbooting with XP, everything went ok, but when it trys to start Gnome my screen turns off. What can I do?11:35
goldfishXira-: got an nvidia card?11:36
mdkemjr, i am trying to restructure the restricted formats wiki, it is a bit inconsistent so i'm trying to figure out inconsistencies. the gstreamer-lame package requires an extra repo, so maybe better to use lame if poss11:36
tjsHrdwrBoB, I have an adaptec hw SATA raid controller, on a stock intel 1u server, I configure raid 1, and the installer loads ata_piix sata raid controller drivers, but when it comes to the partitioning bit of the installer, I see sda and sdb11:36
Xira-goldfish: ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 256mb11:36
=== saif [~saif@213.186.187.56] has joined #ubuntu
goldfishah right11:36
=== kay [~kay@p50838DFD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu
goldfishu might need to get ati drivers11:36
Xira-I was told that it would at least support 2d11:36
HrdwrBoBtjs: it's not really raid11:36
=== Xira- sighs
djpXira-: sorry, i know nothing about dual boots, i use a ubuntu only system. maybe somebody else here will give you hand...11:36
HrdwrBoBtjs: you'd be better off using software raid TBH11:37
Xira-Well the dual boot part doesn't really matter11:37
tjsoh11:37
plex0r_for ubuntu do i just need linux partition and a linux-swap partition?11:37
tjswhy is it not really raid?11:37
HrdwrBoBit's merely a bios front end to a software raid driver11:37
saifhello every1, just installed kubuntu, everything seems to be running fine, excpect that i can't get the network stuff, i have a dhcpo configured, and i just want to run or change the settings any1 knows where from?11:37
HrdwrBoBthe raid is not done in hardware11:37
djpXira_: then why are you dual booting?11:37
goldfishplex0r_: the install cd does all the partitioning for you11:37
HrdwrBoByou have to pay several hundred dollars for a real raid card11:37
plex0r_oh so its not like slack11:38
plex0r_ok..11:38
Xira-goldfish: What can I do?11:38
goldfishXira-: one sec11:38
Xira-k11:38
=== mx|gone is now known as mxpxpod
goldfishi had the same problem11:38
goldfishlooking for the command11:38
=== marioch [~Mario@red-corp-201.130.148.38.telnor.net] has joined #ubuntu
plex0r_now when i install this ubuntu will it over write windows?11:39
saifguys?! any1 knows how to configure the network?!?! just need to tell kubuntu to get the address automatically from the dhcp server!11:39
goldfishnot if u dont want it to11:39
plex0r_my friend, goldfish, you knwo him, dazed, didnt want to and it did anyways.11:39
=== cavediver [~jonas@62.101.48.80] has joined #ubuntu
goldfishplex0r_: ah right11:39
plex0r_did he do something wrong?11:39
goldfishhe never partitioned properly11:40
goldfishprobably11:40
plex0r_ok11:40
cavediverHmm. My Gnome was updated to 2.10 today. Is it released? I can't find any info on gnome.org11:40
=== Hell-Razor [~justin@66-188-89-111.mad.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu
plex0r_i thought linux would see nfts as a locked drive11:40
goldfishwell the ubuntu disk needs empty space11:40
goldfishit creates the partition itself11:40
=== kay [~kay@p50838DFD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu
saifemm, yes but you might run into problems installed both of them,11:40
plex0r_so if i just read carefully and know what im doing it wont delete11:40
saifafter i installed ubuntu the first time, windows wouldn't start11:41
goldfishplex0r_: is your hd partitioned?11:41
goldfishplex0r_: u want to dual boot?11:41
plex0r_no i need to set 10 gigs for ubuntu11:41
plex0r_yes i do11:41
goldfishk11:41
Xira-heh11:41
goldfishwell u gotta partition it11:41
plex0r_once i set that partititon space11:41
goldfishpartition the bit for windows11:41
plex0r_will i need to format it as well?11:41
goldfishleave 10g as empty space11:41
plex0r_i already got windows11:41
goldfishno11:41
goldfishwell, k11:42
goldfishleave it as empty space11:42
plex0r_so i just need to set 10 gig for ubuntu11:42
plex0r_boot from disk11:42
=== mumak [~jml@ppp111-55.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu
plex0r_and done11:42
goldfishshould do11:42
plex0r_ill try on laptop before i try on pc -_-11:42
goldfishselect the empty space11:42
plex0r_yeah.11:42
plex0r_thank you.11:42
goldfishkk11:42
Xira-goldfish: ?11:42
plex0r_slackware so much harder :p11:43
goldfishXira-: sorry :)11:43
=== cavediver [~jonas@62.101.48.80] has left #ubuntu []
R0bNycwhat do you all gnome users use for iso burning ? i dont seem to find gnomebaker11:43
plex0r_gentoo even harder11:43
mcphailR0bNyc: nautilus11:43
LinuxJonesR0bNyc, graveman is quite good as well as gnomebaker11:43
Xira-goldfish: sorry as in i can't help you or sorry I'm being so slow? :P11:43
djpR0bNyc: cdrecord11:43
saifR0bNyc, just right click the iso, and u should have write to disc11:43
goldfishXira-: slow11:43
R0bNycerrr11:44
=== kay [~kay@p50838DFD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu
Xira-k11:44
wasabi_I am getting Connection failed to archive.ubuntu.com11:44
wasabi_is that just me?11:44
R0bNycISO Image Burning like gnomebaker and k3b, I havent used the others so I Dontknow if you can burn iso images11:44
wasabi_hmm. browser works fine. just apt has a problem11:44
phosphorgreenive been having connection issues to arcive.ubuntu.com all day today11:44
phosphorgreenon and off11:44
=== krischan [~krischan@p3E9E5D78.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu
phosphorgreenit seems fine atm as i'm apt-getting from the universe atm11:45
R0bNycphosphorgreen, me211:45
R0bNycconnectionissues11:45
mcphailR0bNyc: as above, just right click the .iso in the nautilus file browser11:45
saifR0bNyc, i just tried it today, right click on the iso from nautilus and u should have a "write to disc" ( on hoary donno about warty)11:45
=== punisher [~punisher@82.130.242.178] has joined #ubuntu
R0bNycsaif, i dont use warty either11:46
R0bNycmy sources are having connection issues right now so I Dont know11:46
saifR0bNyc, did u try right clicking the iso image?!11:47
=== krischan [~krischan@p3E9E5D78.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu
goldfishXira-: you can press ctrl + alt + f111:47
R0bNycsaif err not yet11:47
goldfishXira-: to get a shell11:47
=== Corvus [Corvus@85.86.233.133] has joined #ubuntu
goldfishand login11:47
wasabi_okay us.archive.ubuntu.com does not work for me11:47
saifTRY IT!11:47
Xira-Then what do I do..?11:47
goldfishXira-: dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xfree8611:47
goldfishrun that11:47
goldfishthink u gotta be root11:47
Xira-k11:47
goldfishand go through it11:47
goldfishit *Should* work11:47
R0bNycsaif, yea now I see write to disc but iso image burning is different11:47
yokomowhat is this?11:48
yokomoFailed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary/Release.gpg  Could not connect to us.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (216.165.129.138). - connect (111 Connection refused)11:48
Xira-goldfish: And I do ctrl alt f1 while its booting11:48
Xira-?11:48
goldfishnah11:48
goldfishafter it boots11:48
goldfishthe screen isnt dying11:48
Xira-well it trys to start gnome while its booting11:48
goldfishthe gui is just failing11:48
goldfishdoes the screen go black?11:48
Xira-yes, the power button on my monitor turns yellow11:48
Xira-and it turns off11:48
goldfishoh dear11:48
goldfishwell, thats a different problem altogether11:49
Xira-sigh11:49
Xira-:|11:49
goldfishsorry :/11:49
Xira-Well where can I get help?11:49
goldfishXira-: try searching ubuntuforums.com11:49
goldfishmaybe11:49
=== theine [~theine@83.72.197.119.ip.tele2adsl.dk] has joined #ubuntu
saifhas any1 here tried kubuntu?11:50
Xira-not a valid url11:50
Xira-:|11:50
goldfishlol11:50
goldfish.org11:50
goldfishsorry hahaha11:50
goldfishsaif: #kubuntu11:50
mcphailR0bNyc: "Write to disk" should be fine. It burns the .iso on my machine without any problems11:50
saif:) goldfish thanx!11:50
=== error_29 [~bru@24-90-94-112.nyc.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu
R0bNycmcphail, ah thanks11:50
R0bNycI wish I could find gnomebaker though11:50
saifexit11:51
R0bNyck3b I prefer to use on kde desktops not gnome desktop11:51
saif:p sorry! bye!11:51
goldfish:)11:51
=== saif [~saif@213.186.187.56] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]
=== jenz [~jenz@h155n2c1o1043.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu
=== Hell-Razor [~justin@66-188-89-111.mad.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu
jenzhi11:51
djpR0bNyc: cdrecord dev=0,?,? -v /path/to/image.iso11:52
=== andreas [~andreas@0x5358c7d7.kjnxx5.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu
andreasHow can i cange the splash screen in Gnome?11:52
=== png [~png@dsl81-215-38644.adsl.ttnet.net.tr] has joined #ubuntu
R0bNycdjp, sorry that burning via term is too geeky for me11:53
jenzi just installed ubuntu and i wonder if its a good distribution to start with. im a total newbie at linux but im pretty good at windows. is ther any good reading that you recommend?11:53
R0bNycandreas, you from yoper?11:53
andreasubuntu11:53
goldfishjblack: ubuntuguide.org11:53
theineR0bNyc: have you looked at graveman?11:53
goldfishjblack: sorry11:53
=== fgx [~fgx@host97-142.pool8248.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu
djpR0bNyc: X-CDRoast is a good alternative11:54
=== Amaranth [~travis@ip68-229-188-97.om.om.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu
R0bNyctheine, the ubuntu servers are not working correctly so theres no way I can do anything right now11:55
R0bNycdjp, I'll try graveman and X-CDRoast then11:55
LinuxJonesR0bNyc, they are working fine for me11:55
Hell-Razorhey in ubuntu how do you get the copute rto automaticly log into fluxbox?11:55
fgxhi guys11:55
R0bNycLinuxJones, you prob not using hoary?11:55
LinuxJonesR0bNyc, xcdroast interface is terrible11:55
=== haich [~haich@60.Red-83-32-115.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu
=== Amaranth [~travis@amaranth.user] has joined #ubuntu
LinuxJonesR0bNyc, yeah I am using Hoary11:55
goldfishHell-Razor: when u enter your usernam and pass go into Session11:55
goldfishbefore u log onto ubuntu11:56
Hell-Razorgoldfish: thats temperary though11:56
andreasPlease guys....11:56
Hell-Razorgoldfish: i dont want to do taht every time11:56
R0bNycLinuxJones, weird I am too and it wasnt working for me all of a sudden let me retry again11:56
=== antich [~antich@85.137.167.115] has joined #ubuntu
goldfishu can make it permanent Hell-Razor11:56
goldfishit will ask you11:56
Hell-Razorreally?11:56
goldfishdo u want to make this default11:56
Hell-Razordidnt know that11:56
andreasCan anyone help me out? I would like a new splash screen11:56
goldfishye11:56
carthikI have a keyboard problem - each time after I reboot/re-login, some keys dont work!11:57
=== antich [~antich@85.137.167.115] has left #ubuntu ["Abandonando"]
carthikhod do I solve this?11:57
R0bNycHit ftp://ftp.nerim.net stable Release11:57
R0bNycIgn ftp://ftp.nerim.net stable Release11:57
R0bNycHit ftp://ftp.nerim.net unstable Release11:57
R0bNycIgn ftp://ftp.nerim.net unstable Release11:57
R0bNycHit ftp://ftp.nerim.net testing Release11:57
R0bNycIgn ftp://ftp.nerim.net testing Release11:57
carthikI I were a girl, i would flash for an answer11:57
R0bNycErr http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary/main Packages11:57
R0bNyc  Could not connect to us.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (216.165.129.138). - connect (111 Connection refused)11:57
R0bNycErr http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary/restricted Packages11:57
R0bNyc  Could not connect to us.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (216.165.129.138). - connect (111 Connection refused)11:57
R0bNycErr http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary/main Sources11:57
R0bNyc  Could not connect to us.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (216.165.129.138). - connect (111 Connection refused)11:57
R0bNycErr http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary/restricted Sources11:57
R0bNyc  Could not connect to us.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (216.165.129.138). - connect (111 Connection refused)11:57
R0bNycErr http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary/universe Packages11:57
=== SeFoKumA [~zienaga@44.Red-81-44-205.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu
LinuxJonesummm11:57
R0bNyc  Could not connect to us.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (216.165.129.138). - connect (111 Connection refused)11:57
R0bNycErr http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary/universe Sources11:57
R0bNyc  Could not connect to us.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (216.165.129.138). - connect (111 Connection refused)11:57
R0bNycyou see LinuxJones11:57
error_29jenz, this probably isn't what you meant by good reading -- I suppose you mean technical info on linux -- but this book helped me begin to tune into the spirit of *nix, open source and all that:  "Rebel Code" by Glyn Moody.  Great read.11:58
goldfish*SIGH*11:58
LinuxJonesR0bNyc, don't flood here dude :)11:58
goldfisherror_29: he left :)11:58
R0bNycsorry11:58
error_29ah well, it's still a great read!11:58
StoffBox-SteveR0bNyc, try without us.  still work test it a few sec ago ... de.  runs too11:58
error_29for noobs like me anyway11:58
=== maximaus [~max@user-37kacsa.dialup.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu
fgxi'd like to upgrade php on warty. did someone do it?11:59
=== waseem [~waseem@cpe-67-49-36-167.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu

Generated by irclog2html.py 2.7 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!