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[12:59] <mdke> i've changed the RestrictedFormats wiki. Feel free to change back/correct mistakes. i've sent an email to the list too
[12:59] <mdke> bed time now
[12:59] <mdke> nice to meet you all
[06:35] <froud> African Greetings
[06:35] <froud> me sees some very interesting discussion in the irc log.
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[08:32] <froud> Burgundavia: morning. You should read IRC log, it will interest you ;-)
[08:40] <Burgundavia> am doing now
[08:45] <Burgundavia> who is mdke?
[08:46] <Burgundavia> cool about the yahoo press release
[08:48] <froud> Burgundavia: thanks, dont know mdke
[08:48] <froud> mdke is a new entrant
[09:09] <Burgundavia> alright, where should I send my patch?
[09:13] <Burgundavia> ok, I have an issue with the links. They are not working correctly
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[09:35] <Burgundavia> maskie: you have commit access to the svn repo?
[10:04] <froud> Burgundavia: you can send patches to the list
[10:05] <froud> If you send it now I will check it. Thanks.
[10:09] <Burgundavia> ok, I am almost done. Lots of language cleanup primarily
[10:09] <Burgundavia> svn -diff?
[10:11] <Burgundavia> should I include in the email or attach the patch?
[10:22] <Burgundavia> all 500 lines of it?
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[10:56] <froud> attach the patch
[10:56] <froud> which doc is it for please
[10:58] <Burgundavia> quickguide
[10:59] <Burgundavia> done
[11:00] <froud> got it thank
[11:07] <froud> Burgundavia:  nice one thanks, I have applied it
[11:07] <Kinnison> Morning guys
[11:08] <froud> Burgundavia:  in some places your checking was a bit intrusive. In other words your personal preference. But that's ok ;-)
[11:08] <froud> Kinnison: morning
[11:10] <froud> Burgundavia: we actually wanted more text than less :-)
[11:10] <Burgundavia> froud: hmm
[11:10] <Burgundavia> morning
[11:10] <Burgundavia> I cut out some stuff that was better left explained elsewhere, IMHO
[11:10] <Burgundavia> feel free to add anything you feel back in
[11:11] <Burgundavia> I will have another patch for you in about an hour
[11:11] <Burgundavia> much smaller this time
[11:11] <Burgundavia> Kinnison: I wanted to thank for your 30 sec. intro to OO programming. That 30sec was more useful that 3 years of school
[11:14] <froud> Burgundavia: sure, no worries, I will leave it in community hands now. However, it is always good to work in small patches. Work in a node, make changes and make a patch. That way it is easier to apply/not apply, role forward and backwards ;-)
[11:14] <Kinnison> Burgundavia: *grin*
[11:16] <abelli> Kinnison: what kind of introduction?
[11:16] <abelli> Kinnison: ruby right? ;)
[11:17] <Kinnison> abelli: naah; python in this instance because it's what we had to hand
[11:17] <abelli> eheh :)
[11:18] <abelli> Burgundavia: kinnison is the best teacher you could have had. :o)=
[11:18] <Burgundavia> dammit, I want committ access to the svn repo
[11:19] <Burgundavia> s/committ/commit
[11:19] <Kinnison> svn is so crud. It ate my boyfriend's repository
[11:19] <Burgundavia> well it is what they use
[11:19] <abelli> Burgundavia i think that after having washed 300 times elmo's car.. youll easily have it :)
[11:20] <Kinnison> Burgundavia: It's amazing. 1 working repo... rsync it... 1 non-working repo
[11:20] <Kinnison> svn is so shit
[11:20] <Burgundavia> ouch
[11:20] <Burgundavia> so has he moved to baz then?
[11:20] <Kinnison> And we rsynced the entire /home to a new OS installation
[11:20] <Kinnison> he won't touch baz
[11:20] <Kinnison> http://www.livejournal.com/users/nunfetishist/20189.html
[11:23] <Burgundavia> Kinnison: what is the timeframe for moving bugzilla-->malone?
[11:25] <froud> Kinnison: he did not configure live spanshot right
[11:25] <froud> snapshot
[11:26] <froud> All revision systems are prone to problems, the trick is to be a good admin and plan for disaster recovery
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[12:16] <froud> enrico: can you arrange with Burgundavia to setup svn commit account, please?
[12:16] <Kinnison> froud: I don't like VCSs where the disaster recovery tools don't work
[12:17] <froud> Kinnison: Hmm strange I have had good experiences with SVN.
[12:18] <froud> I have corrupted my database a few times. Everytime I was able to recover
[12:50] <enrico> froud: sure
[12:50] <enrico> Burgundavia: around?
[12:50] <Burgundavia> yep
[12:50] <enrico> Burgundavia: please send me your preferred username and GPG key ID, and I'll forward that to Elmo
[12:51] <enrico> If you have no gpg key, then please send me your preferred username, and the password encrypted with Elmo's GPG key
[12:51] <Kinnison> Burgundavia: bet you're glad I convinced you to have a GPG key now :-)
[12:51] <Burgundavia> Kinnison: actually, that key got munched when the hdd died on that laptop
[12:52] <Kinnison> Burgundavia: boo hiss
[12:52] <Kinnison> Burgundavia: You suck :-)
[12:52] <Burgundavia> Kinnison: the only place it went to was the old svn repo
[12:52] <Kinnison> Heh
[12:52] <Burgundavia> that is why I didn't join the key signing
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[01:03] <mdke> morning all
[01:11] <froud> hello mdke 
[01:11] <mdke> hi
[01:11] <froud> read your intersting discussion yesterday
[01:11] <froud> nice ideas
[01:13] <mdke> heh
[01:14] <mdke> i find it easy to place myself in the boots of an ubuntu n00b
[01:14] <mdke> worryingly
[01:14] <mdke> >_>
[01:14] <mdke> ,_<
[01:17] <mdke> i think that since ubuntu is such a great user friendly distro, its docs should be user friendly too
[01:20] <mdke> froud, anyway pleased to meet you, my name is matt
[01:35] <froud> sorry I was on the bongo-drums (phone)
[01:35] <mdke> lol
[01:35] <froud> yes, all help is welcome
[01:35] <froud> I dont touch wiki much
[01:35] <mdke> hmm
[01:35] <froud> only for Documentationteam stuff
[01:35] <mdke> is there a space on the official website which refers question to wiki entries?
[01:35] <froud> mostly workin in SVN on Docbook
[01:36] <froud> frankly I have no idea
[01:36] <froud> wiki is not for me
[01:36] <froud> :-)
[01:36] <mdke> np
[01:36] <froud> I can work with it but find it better to focus
[01:36] <mdke> i'll have a look
[01:36] <abelli> froud: don't worry mdke feels comfortable writing on wax tablets
[01:37] <froud> nice meeting you
[01:37] <froud> abelli: lol
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[01:37] <abelli> mdke: are you in italy now?
[01:37] <mdke> nope
[01:37] <abelli> good 
[01:37] <mdke> sunny london
[01:37] <froud> italy is a far away country
[01:37] <mdke> good? harsh
[01:37] <abelli> eheh
[01:37] <mdke> bbl
[01:37] <mdke> ciao cmq
[01:37] <abelli> mdke: ciao bello
[01:37] <froud> Com eto sunny South Africa dude
[01:38] <mdke> ciao belli
[01:38] <abelli> froud: will you host us?
[01:38] <abelli> :)
[01:38] <froud> no problem
[01:38] <froud> and if I cant maskie will
[01:39] <froud> and if he cant we will just hijack the tsf offices
[01:39] <abelli> ehe
[01:39] <abelli> where?
[01:39] <abelli> where's tsf located?
[01:39] <froud> Cape town
[01:40] <mdke> nice
[01:40] <mdke> bad luck on the cricket btw :p
[01:40] <froud> what cricket
[01:40] <mdke> well...
[01:40] <mdke> the english cricket
[01:41] <abelli> froud: yep, but is it in any particular building?
[01:41] <mdke> i'd like to visit SA
[01:41] <mdke> must be amazing
[01:42] <froud> bong drum
[01:43] <froud> did we play you
[01:43] <froud> who won
[01:43] <froud> you guys
[01:45] <abelli> the italian rugby team graze perfection
[01:47] <froud> yeah yeah
[01:49] <abelli> mdke: you're not in ubuntu-it, doh.
[01:52] <abelli> http://www.liberation.fr/page.php?Article=195004&Template=GALERIE&Objet=32832
[01:58] <froud> Oh dudes, btw the yelp processing instruction is now enabled in Quick Guide
[01:58] <froud> I mention this because some may be wondering wtbh it wont validate
[01:59] <froud> if you nnneed to validate just comment the processing instruction
[02:02] <mdke> abelli, the italian rugby team is doing equally well as the english one
[02:08] <abelli> really?
[02:08] <Burgundavia> test
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[03:36] <enrico> froud: ok, meeting.  What do we do?
[03:37] <enrico> Even if I schedule it on the last allowed hour (19:00-20:00), you'll be there for half of the hour only
[03:37] <enrico> OTOH, you're one of the most active people in the team
[03:37] <enrico> I'm stuck
[03:40] <mdke> enrico, giorno
[03:42] <enrico> mdke: ciao!
[03:42] <mdke> :)
[03:43] <mdke> i was gonna try and work on the Docbook/DocBook wiki integration
[03:43] <mdke> enrico, which to use as the final version?
[03:45] <enrico> mdke: sorry, I didn't undertsand the question
[03:45] <mdke> enrico, which address: wiki/Docbook or wiki/DocBook
[03:45] <enrico> Ah! :)  Sorry
[03:45] <mdke> my fault
[03:46] <enrico> Boo.  I didn't know we have 2 different pages
[03:46] <mdke> me neither
[03:46] <enrico> http://www.docbook.org/ says "DocBook"
[03:47] <mdke> DocBook is also the more developed wiki so that is easy
[03:48] <mdke> ok devo andare
[03:48] <mdke> a  piu tardi
[03:49] <enrico> mdke: ciao!
[03:55] <froud> enrico: dunno what to do. my bad
[03:56] <enrico> froud: not many people replied to me.  We can still reschedule, even if it's not funny.
[03:56] <Burgundavia> enrico: the tim eis good for me
[03:56] <enrico> But it's better to have a crowded rescheduled meeting than a meeting with two people
[03:57] <enrico> Burgundavia: ah, ok
[03:57] <Burgundavia> yes
[03:57] <Burgundavia> I just forgot to respond, sorry
[03:57] <enrico> the other problem is that, as Burgundavia shows, I don't know if people didn't answer because they can't come, or if they didn't because they could come at any time
[03:58] <Burgundavia> enrico: send another around saying rsvp or we reschedule
[03:58] <enrico> Burgundavia: good idea
[03:58] <froud> what about weekend
[03:59] <froud> sorry enrico I totally forgot that I have lectures
[03:59] <froud> but lectures come before FOSS
[03:59] <enrico> so far it's me, john levin, corey, jeff and sivang
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[04:04] <enrico> Is there someone from the american west coast?
[04:04] <enrico> Burgundavia: you are not from Vancouver, aren't you? :)
[04:04] <Burgundavia> victoria
[04:04] <Burgundavia> across the water
[04:04] <enrico> timezone?
[04:05] <Burgundavia> NA PST
[04:05] <enrico> UTC+/- ?
[04:05] <Burgundavia> -8
[04:05] <enrico> argh
[04:05] <Burgundavia> currently I don't work, so I can be up at any time
[04:06] <enrico> I imagine you don't wake up at 6:00am
[04:06] <Burgundavia> well, I have been up all night?
[04:06] <Burgundavia> and it is 7am now
[04:06] <enrico> omg
[04:06] <Burgundavia> like I said, I currently don
[04:06] <Burgundavia> t work
[04:06] <enrico> I mean: 15:00UTC is 7:00 NA PST and 02:03 in Sidney
[04:07] <Burgundavia> works for me
[04:07] <Kinnison> have you slept at all yet??
[04:07] <Burgundavia> since we last talked, no
[04:07] <Kinnison> dude, that is not good for you
[04:07] <enrico> uhm... but 22:00UTC is quite nice for many
[04:07] <enrico> unless we start having russians in the team
[04:08] <Burgundavia> Kinnison: yes, I know
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[04:11] <enrico> Burgundavia: I still haven't received the details for your svn account
[04:11] <Burgundavia> haven't sent them yet
[04:13] <Burgundavia> ah yes, I had flagged your previous email as todo, but had not done it yet
[04:13] <enrico> Burgundavia: no problem.  I think your best priority is to get some sleep
[04:13] <Burgundavia> I will email you later today
[04:16] <froud> enrico: I told you so, "Participation in FOSS projects leads to sleep deprevation."
[04:16] <enrico> ...and lots of fun!
[04:16] <froud> oh yes
[04:16] <froud> you added that
[04:16] <Burgundavia> sleep is good
[04:16] <froud> Hmm I think so
[04:16] <froud> but I must do lectures now, so I will love you and leave you for about 3 hours
[04:17] <froud> enrico: let us know via the list
[04:17] <froud> oh you already have
[04:17] <enrico> froud: :)
[04:17] <froud> no flies on you dude
[04:53] <mdke_laptop> anyone home who understands how the MoinMoin code of the wiki works?
[05:00] <enrico> mdke_laptop: what do you mean?
[05:13] <mdke_laptop> enrico, i need a doc which explains how to code the wiki using MoinMoin markup. I've basically understood headings, bullet points and numbered lists, but i need to figure out how to intent things
[05:16] <enrico> HelpOnEditing
[05:16] <enrico> wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpOnEditing
[05:16] <mdke_laptop> thanks
[05:16] <enrico> there are various other HelpOn* pages
[05:17] <mdke_laptop> enrico, great ty
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[07:51] <sivang> mako: ping
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[07:52] <mako> sivang: hola
[08:10] <sivang> mako: hola mako, still in spain? :)
[08:19] <mako> sivang: no.. but i might be in columbia this time next week
[08:20] <mako> where, unlike new york where i am now, there is probably not a snow storm
[08:27] <sivang> mako: oh :) probably. what are you going to do there?
[08:30] <mako> talking about why ubuntu rocks
[08:30] <mako> rocking about ubuntu even :)
[08:32] <sivang> mako: good for yoou, travelling all over the world for this ...
[10:23] <abelli> mako: ping
[10:25] <mako> abelli: hey dude
[10:25] <abelli> mako: ciao
[10:26] <mako> whats up
[10:26] <abelli> mako: i don't think you need me on that meeting
[10:26] <abelli> mako: mmm things are much better now
[10:26] <abelli> mako: just wanted to let you know i won't be there.
[12:00] <mdke> evenin