LTkIll try then if must be come back ok12:00
schasiTry to log in there12:00
andreasCan anyone help me with gconf-editor?12:00
dstevenswell that 386 to 686 kernel upgrade was very painless! :)12:00
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knuckswhy is it this slow12:00
schasiTomAraya: There should be something like "warty" in your /etc/apt/sources.list12:00
schasiReplace that with hoary12:00
WillCookesnoop, good skills.  Right, now sudo ndiswrapper -i <not the autorun.inf> inf (that's INF not INI) file12:00
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schasiAnd do an apt-get updated and an apt-get dist-upgrade12:00
|M0rph|anyone ? help with grub-install12:01
schasiVoila, youre done12:01
geppyknucks:  Are you running lots of other programs?12:01
knucksjust gam + firefox + this12:01
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geppyknucks:  Perhaps your computer sucks.12:01
andreasgeppy: Please... Will you help me?12:01
WillCookesnoop, sorry not meaning to sound patronising12:01
geppyknucks:  Complaining to us won't help.12:01
knucksits a 2.612:01
geppyandreas:  What do you need help with?12:01
knuckswith 512mb12:01
andreasgeppy:gconf-editor settings12:01
knucksi think its more than enough to rip a cd12:01
knucksand my cdrom is a 52x12:01
snoop_willcooke,, no prob...i am a noob...12:01
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geppyknucks:  Nope, you need at least a 400GHz processor to rip a CD.12:02
schasiTomAraya: You are aware that the update could break your installation?12:02
geppyknucks:  Sorry.12:02
Fator_Deeknucks: you could have something wtong with the rip settings12:02
knucksFator_Dee: maybe12:02
Fator_Deewrong even12:02
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geppyandreas:  What settings?12:02
WillCookesnoop, I was a month ago!  You can pick this stuff up really quickly.12:02
snoop_willcooke,, alright installed..12:02
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TomArayaschasi, I guess I'll take that chance.12:02
WillCookesnoop, sweet.  Now sudo ndiswrapper -l   - what's it say?12:02
mrproperAre there deb's for Java on Horay?12:03
knucksmaybe my cdrom is screwed up under linux?12:03
snoop_willcooke, cool ..i hope so too...have to switch between windows and linux...12:03
geppymrproper: In Universe, yes.12:03
geppyknucks: I doubt it.12:03
mrpropergeppy, Sun's Java?12:03
schasiWell then go ahead. Did you read what i wrote you about how to do it TomAraya ?12:03
andreasGeppy: In Hoary setting the Apps/Gnome-session/options/splash_image to gnome_splashe.png (standard in Hoary) does not take effect when rebooting.12:03
Scognitodoes someone has tvout working on nvidia?12:03
geppymrproper:  Yes, run an 'apt-cache search sun'12:03
mrproperTomAraya, Slayer...sweet.12:03
TomArayaschasi, switch all instances of Warty to Hoary.12:03
TomArayain sources.12:03
WillCookesnoop, To be honest windows is still a damn site easier to use (but then I've been using windows for a lot longer than linux).12:03
TomArayamrproper: \../12:03
schasiin /etc/apt/sources.list, thats right12:03
snoop_willcooke,, awesome...says "hardware present, fuzzy"12:03
mrpropergeppy, Sun doesn't give me a jre12:04
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TomArayaschasi, and then reboot?12:04
WillCookesnoop, Things like adding new hardware are really hard (for me) in linux, under windows  - daadaahhaa - installed.12:04
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geppyandreas:  do you have gnome_splashe.png in the pixmaps directory?12:04
WillCookesnoop, sounds like we're getting there.12:04
schasiTomAraya: No12:04
TomArayaschasi, or just update in synaptic?12:04
snoop_willcooke, true i have to use it for school a lot,but it has been acting crazy nowadays..12:04
giardTomAraya: love the nick, btw12:04
andreasgeppy: yes sir12:04
schasiTomAraya: You have to updated the packetlists and then do a dist-upgrade12:04
TomArayagiard: Thanks.12:04
WillCookesnoop, try a sudo modprobe ndiswrapper12:05
snoop_willcooke, sometimes windows just works...12:05
geppyandreas:  Perhaps try overwriting the previous splash image?  It's generally easier than playing with gconf. =)12:05
schasiTomAraya: That would be a sudo apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade on the commandline. Find the same Commands in synaptic12:05
schasiDunno how it is there12:05
WillCookesnoop, Annoyingly so!12:05
andreaswill try12:05
schasiReally busy here12:05
snoop_willcooke, yea...ok done..gave me no output12:06
holy_cowdoes anyone know how to give regular users access to gnome cups manager so they can add/delete printers and print jobs them selves?12:06
WillCookesnoop, s'good!  do an iwconfig12:06
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schasiWillCooke: But unter Linux they normally keep on working after you got them installed. I have different experiences with windows12:06
geppymrproper: Perhaps you'll need to add another source.12:06
TomArayaschasi, thanks for the assistance.12:06
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mrpropergeppy, k12:06
snoop_willcooke,, it shows up now!!!12:06
WillCookeschasi, Very true.  For example moving a usb device from one port to another means a re-install of the drivers?  WTF?! ;)12:06
WillCookesnoop, sorted.12:07
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WillCookesnoop, Now, in gnome go -> System -> Administration -> Networking (or something like that)12:07
geppyWhy does Ubuntu not automatically enable DMA?12:07
giardgeppy: I've wondered that myself12:07
WillCookesnoop, before we go on, have you got the wireless card AND a normal ethernet card in the same machine?12:07
snoop_willcooke, alright12:07
Fator_Deeit doesn't?12:08
snoop_willcooke, yup12:08
geppyFator_Dee:  No. =(12:08
|M0rph|my grub boot loader stopped working after i created a new partition in windows. i've removed it and i'm trying to install it from ubuntu live cd ...12:08
geppygiard: Would it not be simple to test if the drive supports it?12:08
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Fator_Deehow come I hadn't changet it on and it's on :-\12:08
giardgeppy: I think it might be a stability thing12:08
snoop_willcooke, had to have both to download ndiswrapper...12:08
WillCookesnoop, This might get a bit bendy.  If you bring up your wireless interface and the eth0 you might get a loop on your network = bad12:08
geppygiard:  Aside from legacy hardware, why would it be unstable?12:08
giardgeppy: you got me12:09
snoop_willcooke, okay dont want anyhting bad...what do i do?12:09
dampjamAre there video4linux packages available in ubuntu, I can't find them12:09
WillCookesnoop, Does you WiFI Access Point have a an enable dhcp server on it?12:09
geppydampjam:  apt-cache search v4l12:09
dampjamahh I was searching video4linux12:09
snoop_willcooke, um i believe so..in windows all you had to do was find it and type in the correct password..12:10
geppydampjam:  Do you have universe enabled?12:10
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gillesIs there a vga=xxx code I could set in the grub config so that I could have a resolution of 1280x800 for my large screen ?12:10
WillCookesnoop, do you have a dsl router or similar?12:10
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snoop_willcooke, hava  cable router..12:10
error_29TomAraya, I just finished what I think you're trying to do -- haven't rebooted yet, but so far nothing's flagrantly busted.  Except my "Computer" menu is now missing about two-thirds of its entries12:10
WillCookels -lha12:11
WillCookeoops, wrong screen12:11
geppy2.6.11 working for anyone?12:11
error_29anyway, rebooting, and keeping my fingers crossed...12:11
snoop_willcooke, ls -lha ?12:11
WillCookesnoop, right to be on the safe side unplug the ethernet cable from your wifi a.p12:11
giardgeppy: I had a lock up when I tried it12:11
dampjamI have the universe and multiverse enabled12:11
larssonJust ran an dist-upgrade with hoary. Seems like it installed KDE 3.4 , but i get dependency problems with a KDE-app called "quanta" and "kdewebdev" and one more package. Is it only me or do you guys got the problem too?12:11
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giardgeppy: everything worked until I logged into X11, and then it froze12:11
WillCookesnoop, ignore that ls (i typed it in the wrong screen)12:11
geppygiard:  As did I, when I got to the desktop.12:11
geppygiard:  Yeah. =/12:12
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geppygiard:  Do you think that they'll be fixing that, soon?  Or should I just build from source?12:12
snoop_willcooke, ok..unplug wifi router or thernet from computer?12:12
Riddelllarsson: it's being fixed12:12
WillCookesnoop, just the ethernet from the access point12:12
geppygiard:  2.6.11 fixes ptrace issues that are necessary for copy-protection working with Cedega;  so I'm wanting to give that a try12:12
giardgeppy: I think it might be an agpgart prob, did you try unloading that before logging in?12:12
WillCookesnoop, leave the A.P. switched on.12:12
geppygiard: Nah, should I?12:12
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giardgeppy: try it and see if it helps12:13
larssonRiddel: Ok, so i just wait and it will be fixed with the next dist upgrade? Everybody is getting it?12:13
giardI think it's a known problem12:13
geppygiard:  Alright;  just boot up 2.6.11, then go to a TTY and then unload agpgart?12:13
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Riddelllarsson: yes12:13
giardgeppy: yeah, try that... I don't see it in bugzilla, so I'll add it12:14
larssonOk thanks. So when was KDE 3.4 released?12:14
jon1012good night everybody :)12:14
israelhi there, which package should I re-configure in order to change my X resolution? I tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 but the options I get in the Gnome menu did not change... any clue?12:14
geppygiard:  Alright, cool;  just modprobe -r agpgart?12:14
Xappegiard, geppy try to boot it with the noinotify option. that should get it not to panic iirc12:14
geppyXappe:  Do I need to set that with grub, and how would I do that?12:15
WillCookesnoop, oh, btw have you modprobe'd the ndiswrapper mod?12:15
Riddelllarsson: next week :)12:15
giardXappe: hmmm, I read that inotify was fixed...12:15
giardXappe: maybe that fixes the hang too12:15
larssonRiddel: Haha, hoary rules!12:15
giardXappe: not sure if the new version is in hoary12:15
Xappegiard, ok...I've only experienced the problem with the first 2.6.10-4 update12:16
Fator_Deebtw, does anyone else have a problem with trashapplet crashing?12:16
Fator_Deein warty that is12:16
larssonRiddel: When do you think this quanta problem will be solved? I mean, are we talking weaks? days? hours?12:16
Xappegeppy edit /boot/grub/menu.lst12:16
Riddelllarsson: day or two12:17
larssonEdit with caution tough.12:17
larssonOh, thanks.12:17
geppyXappe:  And what's the flag for disabling inotify?12:17
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WillCookesnoop, still there?12:17
Xappegeppy, noinotify12:17
geppyXappe:  Thanks.12:17
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Xappegeppy, i've not tried it myself, but that's what I've seen during my quite extensive forum surfing12:18
geppyXappe:  Ah, alright. =)12:18
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Kirschhey guys, i have a laptop, and when i use my VGA out, it mirrors my display, is there a way to extend the desktop instead?12:19
snoop_willcooke, okay unplugged the ethernet cables from the wifi router but left it on12:20
snoop_willcooke, forgot the cable router was plugged in to the router12:20
WillCookekirsch, Don't think so12:20
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WillCookesnoop, ok, have you "modprobe"'d ndiswrapper yet?12:20
snoop_willcooke, okay got a cable router whih is plugged into the wfi router....i got the cord from that into the computer...12:21
snoop_willcooke, yea did that but it gave no output...12:21
WillCookesnoop, So you're A.P. is now turned on, but connected to nothing?12:21
WillCookesnoop, just in case do a "sudo rmmod ndiswrapper"12:21
OsMasterFlexDoes anybody know how to stop the 'home' and 'end's keys from typing "F" and "H" everytime i press them12:22
WillCookesnoop, and then a "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper"12:22
snoop_willcooke, it is connected to the computer....have to try to make the12:22
OsMasterFlexi woudl ike them to go to the beginning and end of lines instead12:22
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WillCookesnoop, if all goes well, there should be no output12:22
esher( Operating System ) Linux Ubuntu 5.04 - hoary Kernel: 2.6.11-esh, GNU/Linux | Xorg: 6.8.2 | IRC CLient: X-Chat v.2.4.112:22
esheryay, works :P12:22
dampjamI'm trying to run v4l-conf and it cannot find /dev/video0, is there a configuration step I have to go through to get that?12:22
snoop_willcooke, there was no output....12:22
snoop_willcooke, i have to go get the ap uncnnected and connect this to the cable router...12:22
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knuckshow do i view all my cdroms again?12:23
WillCookesnoop, OK, regarding your network, if it all goes quiet in a second, you'll know you've got a loop, so you can pull the ethernet cable from your machine12:23
snoop_willcooke, remove ndiswrapper??12:23
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OsMasterFlexIn Terminal, does anybody know how to make the 'home' and 'end' keys go to the end and beginings of lines12:23
geppyknucks:  try /etc/fstab ?12:23
knucksah yeh12:23
geppyno problem12:23
knucksimma try my cdrw..12:23
knucksmaybe thatll be faster12:23
WillCookesnoop, yeah, just to make sure, rmmod it and the modprobe it again so we know it's loaded with the new driver, and not a hang-over from the previous attempts12:23
snoop_willcooke okay,12:24
giardgeppy: I've filed a bug report: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=734612:24
WillCookesnoop, once you've done that , open up the network thingy via gnome12:24
giardgeppy: if you could add comments about what you tried and if it worked, that'd be awesome12:24
geppygiard:  Alright; thanks!12:24
snoop_willcooke,, i rmmod 'ed iot...there was no output12:24
geppygiard:  I'm off to reboot, and see if noinotify does the trick. =)12:24
giardgeppy: good luck12:25
knucksdoes LAME come w/ grip?12:25
geppyknucks:  no12:25
knuckswhere do i get it12:25
WillCookesnoop, That's good. there should be no output when you modprobe it either12:25
snoop_willcooke,, question about the network...doews the ap have to be unconnected now?12:25
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hitrikowhat should i use to burn an iso?12:25
Jerubhitriko: cdrecord12:25
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snoop_willcooke, current setup  line int > cable router >wifi router > line to this computer and wireles goin out.12:26
djphitriko: what Jerub said12:26
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KirschAlso, Whenever i edit a file using gedit that goes over sftp, it only lets me do readonly, no write access, altho kwrite works, any ideas?12:27
GhostFreemanHow do I get Ubuntu to recognize DDR memory12:27
WillCookesnoop, Essentailly what we want to do is bring the wifi interface up at the same time as your eth0 (ethernet cable).  If you A.P. is connected to the rest of your network a broadcast message would go out of your computer, to the cable router, out of the cable router in to the wifi router, out of the wifi router, in to the cable router, out of the cable router, in to the wifi router etc etc etc.  This is bad.12:27
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hitrikowhere do i find it?12:27
hitrikosorry i'm a linuc noob -_-;12:27
hitrikoJerub: how do i open it and is text or GUI?12:28
stuNNedhitriko: right click the iso file and select 'burn to disc'12:28
djphitriko: runs from command line12:28
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snoop_willcooke, waitt i dont understand....the ap has to be unconnected but i can be connected to the cable modem, right?12:29
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knucksdo you know where ubuntu installs the lame executable?12:29
geppygiard: How do I comment?  Just write in the additional comments box?12:29
knucksi need the path12:29
WillCookesnoop, yes exactly.  You want your machine plugged directly in to the cable box and your wifi A.P. to be plugged in to the electric and nothing else.12:30
tckis there a tool to convert .avi's to another format12:30
tckis it possible ?12:30
goldfishit is possible12:30
WillCooketck, have a look at mencoder, mplayer.  very good software12:30
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tckmplayer wont work for me12:30
snoop_willcooke, alright i will be back in a second.......12:30
tckthats the problem12:30
WillCooketck, What do you mean by "wont work"?12:30
geppyXappe:  Thanks, that fixed it!12:30
tcki apt-get and it gives dep problems12:31
Xappegeppy, nice :)12:31
GhostFreemanDo I need to make any special configurations to get Ubuntu to recognize my DDR memory?12:31
knucksugh whys it this slow?12:31
geppyGhostFreeman: No.12:31
knucksis it slow for anyone else?12:31
ThoSahey one short and maybe easy question. is it possible (how) to store the configuration of the unbuntu system from boot to boot?12:32
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Sparklehttp://nerdsyndrome.com/linuxdesktop/  <-- interesting :)12:32
geppySpeaking of which, I have three sticks of 512 RAM, and my BIOS is only detecting 886 megs.  What's up?12:32
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geppyThoSa:  What configuration?12:32
geppyThoSa:  The desktop configuration of windows?12:32
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|M0rph|root@ubuntu:/mnt/hda7/boot/grub # grub-install /dev/hda --root-directory=/mnt/hda7/12:32
|M0rph|cp: listing attributes of `//lib/grub/i386-pc/stage1': Unknown error 52412:32
Sionidewho's an op in here usually?12:32
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ThoSageppy: printer configuration, desktop. more ore less all you change from config point of view12:33
geppyThoSa:  That stuff _should_ stay.12:33
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ThoSageppy: stay where? i am booting from DVD12:33
geppyThoSa:  oh.12:33
geppyThoSa:  I don't know about the live version12:33
ThoSageppy: ahh sorry. i missed to tell about live version12:34
ThoSageppy: ok, thanks anyway. i will try again find info by usage of www.google.com12:34
geppyThoSa:  Good thinking. =)12:34
ThoSageppy: have a nice time. it is about 00:30 am and i will go to bed now..12:35
geppyThoSa:  haha;  enjoy!12:35
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snoopwillcooke, i am back.........12:35
BronchoIM trying to connect to my desktop through ssh but everytime I try it says access denied while trying to connect. anyone know how to fix this?12:36
WillCookesnoop, good news!12:36
WillCookesnoop, are you running hoary or wary btw?12:36
snoopwillcooke, warty12:36
snoopwillcooke, the first version ...warty right?12:36
JDahlBroncho, do you have sshd running on the desktop?12:36
WillCookesnoop, yeah,.12:37
snoopwillcooke, cool12:37
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WillCookesnoop, right that networking thing I was talking about earlier, have you got that up?  It should show eth012:37
StoffBox-Stevecan someone help me :D when someone use quakenet.. plz join #bysteve or a few min. i whant L :) / sry for spamm :D12:37
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gino4466pivot_root: no such file or directory12:37
snoopwillcooke, got it...yea it dows..12:38
BronchoJDahl yes its installed12:38
snoopwillcooke, * does12:38
gino4466sbin/init: 429: cannot open /dev/console: No such file12:38
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gino4466kernel panic: attempted to kill init!12:38
WillCookesnoop, is there an "add" button? If so, click it.12:38
br-1what it says ?12:38
snoopwillcooke, clicked!12:38
devpotatoanyone up to may shed some light on sound issues Hoary Array 6?12:39
geppydevpotato:  What's the problem?12:39
WillCookesnoop, Is there a "wirless option"?12:39
devpotatono sound12:39
devpotatoat all12:39
snoopwillcooke, yea12:39
br-1do you know how to drive the emule soft 0.45 ????12:39
devpotatotried several things12:39
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devpotatowith no luck12:39
WillCookesnooper, OK, click that!12:39
WillCookesnoop, then a drop down box?12:39
geppydevpotato:  First, 'sudo apt-get install aumix'12:39
WillCookesnoop, click and select wlan012:39
geppydevpotato:  Make sure that your sound channels are not muted12:39
snoopwillcooke, got it..and i select wlan0, right?12:39
WillCookesnoop, spot on12:39
gino4466anyone know about my problem?12:40
devpotatogeppy: can i see that with alsamixer?12:40
snoopwillcooke, okay12:40
tizendevpotato: What sound card?12:40
devpotatoaudigy 212:40
geppydevpotato:  Yeah.12:40
tizenI know that problem12:40
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Bronchoactaully now I ahve a new problem, I can login to my ssh with my desktops ip but I cant through my ip address and I do avhe port forwarding enabled12:40
tizenhad it on a system12:40
WillCookesnoop, OK, I can't remember what comes next, what's it say?12:40
tizendevpotato: Install gnome-alsamixer12:40
quaruptwhy is it all sleppery?12:40
devpotatookely dokely12:40
tizenand in there, you'll have a check box with Audigy Analog or something12:41
snoopwillcooke, address configuration...pick automatic or manual?12:41
geppytizen:  Odd; what causes that?12:41
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WillCookesnoop, use automatic12:41
snoopwillcooke, okay12:41
tizengeppy: I dunno, but that little check box needs to be clicked or unclicked i forgot12:41
WillCookesnoop, what comes next?12:41
tizeni spent 2 hours on a system before i figured that out12:41
snoopit says apply and continue..12:41
geppytizen:  Ah, alright. =)12:41
tizenlike even cat /dev/urandom > /dev/audio1 didn't do anything till that option is checked on or off12:41
br-1hey i can hept you12:41
snoopwillcooke, clicked apply..12:42
geppytizen:  Good thing you figured it out, then.12:42
br-1i know very much about computers12:42
WillCookesnoop, OK, I think we're there.  If you do a "iwconfig" do you see the name of your wifi network?12:42
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tizengeppy: hehe, my friend gave me a couple beer in exchange12:42
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geppytizen:  hahaha =)12:43
tizengeppy: I get the whole 8pack if i can figure out his tv capture card problem12:43
The-Ghost|afkwhat's wrong when it dosn't whan't to bot from hdd.12:43
geppytizen:  hahaha =)12:43
tizendevpotato: Work?12:43
snoopwillcooke, no...bnut the wifi router is unplugged..12:43
devpotatono dice12:43
snoopwillcooke, unconnected i mean12:43
WillCookesnoop, from the mains? or the network?12:43
geppyAnyone in here run Cedega?12:44
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quaruptwheres the produce section?12:44
devpotatogeppy: last attempt at making this work - i hand built a kernel12:44
snoopwillcooke, from the main...i am connected to the modenm now..12:44
The-Ghost|afkany one?12:44
tizendevpotato: Do you have any other speaker type hardware on your computer?12:44
tizendevpotato: do a ls -l /dev/audio*12:44
Kirschis there a way to upgrade to Gnome 2.8.3?12:44
tizenand see what's there12:44
devpotatotizen: nope12:44
devpotatotizen: hold please :)12:44
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tizendid you see that Analog option checkbox in the bottom?12:44
WillCookesnoop, as long as the A.P is powered up you should be ok12:44
gino4466modprobe: FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/2.6.10-686-smp/modules.dep12:44
devpotatotizen: no device12:44
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quaruptKirsch, why not go all the way to 2.10?12:45
devpotatotizen: but xmms looks like its playing12:45
tizendevpotato: hmm, does a lsmod show any emu10k1 ?12:45
br-1where are you from gino4466 ???????12:45
br-1i am from argentina12:45
quaruptdamn wino's12:45
snoopwillcooke, okay...do i unplug the cable and put it into wifi router, and then plug in the router?12:45
geppydevpotato:  heh12:45
devpotatogeppy: yes indeedy12:45
br-1i it is nice there12:46
Kirschquarupt: ?12:46
WillCookesnoop, just ensure the A.P. is powered up12:46
snoopwillcooke, yup it is...12:46
The-Ghost|afknobody knows?12:46
devpotatogeppy/tizen - lsmod shows emu10k1_gp and snd_emu10k112:46
quaruptKirsch, you know anthing about wino-dev?12:46
devpotatogeppy/tizen - fwiw this worked (kinda) under warty12:46
WillCookesnoop, Hmm. I would expect an "iwconfig" to show you the wifi network name, unless.....12:46
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Nekohayohas someone tested (successfully) readahead in hoary? The package is in synaptic, but I didn't find a how-to12:46
br-1sorry about my engish12:46
tizendevpotato: do you have any results with ls -la /dev/dsp*12:46
Kirschquarupt: nope12:46
Xappeoohoh, soon I hopfully have two Hoary comps in this room :) 30% left of install12:47
WillCookesnoop, do you have WEP enabled, or ESSID disabled at all?12:47
devpotatotizen: nope12:47
br-1i am argentino12:47
tizendevpotato: try a sudo ./.MAKEDEV in /dev12:47
tizenother than that, i'd have to say it's a kernel issue12:47
snoopwillcooke, wep is enabled..12:47
br-1it is summer in Nj gino 446612:47
br-1no ????????12:47
WillCookesnoop, Ah, that will probably be why.12:47
The-Ghost|afkokay.. get ubuntu isntald on my server but it dosn't bot..12:47
snoopwillcooke, at iwconfig i see the wlan0 but not the name if the network..12:47
esher( Sensors ) Temperature [ CPU: No Sensor found | System: No Sensor found ]  <- what package i need for linux to dislplay this (xlack script for xchat)12:48
br-1come gino12:48
devpotatotizen: done12:48
br-1come on gino 446612:48
WillCookesnoop, do you know the hex value of your wep key?12:48
gino4466it's almost spring12:48
tizendevpotato: any new /dev/dsp* or /dev/audio* ?12:48
devpotatotizen: nope12:48
snoopwillcooke, no idea12:48
WillCookesnoop, do you know the "password" wep key?12:48
br-1do you have the messenger ????????12:48
tizendevpotato: i dunno, sudo modprobe emu10k1 is about all i can think of trying12:48
tizensee if anything changes12:49
WillCookesnoop, the text you used to set the wep key?12:49
devpotatotizen: thanks12:49
snoopwillcooke, no...i know the password...12:49
devpotatotizen: will give that try (again)12:49
tizenbut with the default kernel that check box was the problem12:49
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snoopwillcooke, the text?....no idea..12:49
br-1i give you ????????12:49
tizendevpotato: i had read about it in a fedora msg board12:49
dstevensHi all, does ubuntu have a root check kit ?12:49
tizenso, i don't know if it's a 2.6.x thing12:49
br-1it is the 7.000.64212:49
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tizendstevens: chkrootkit is in synaptic12:50
WillCookesnoop, go here -> http://www.csgnetwork.com/wepgeneratorcalc.html12:50
br-1for windows 98, me, xp12:50
gino4466can anyone help me with this kernel panic i'm getting? i thought it was because the module that my SATA drive needs wasn't being loaded, but i still can't get it to work12:50
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gino4466i'm running ubuntu...obviously12:50
devpotatotizen: my last try at making this work (which is what i'm currently running) is a handbuilt kernel with the emu10k1 built in12:50
dstevenstizen, ok cheers.12:50
devpotatotizen: so no module12:50
WillCookesnoop, scroll down to the "Custom WEP Key (all legal ASCII characters accepted)" section12:50
snoopwillcooke, okay12:50
tizendevpotato: Ah, makes sence... I dunno... Drop back to the old kernel and try that checkbox12:50
tizenmaybe your custom kernel thing is broken somehow12:50
WillCookesnoop, type your password in to the "manual" box12:51
geppyWhen are nvidia drivers going to come out for 2.6.11?12:51
br-1gino 4466, do you have the driver12:51
WillCookesnoop, and hit "calculate custom key"12:51
geppyRunning 2.6.11 for copy-protection issues doesn't do much good if you don't have GLX. =/12:51
devpotatotizen: thanks12:51
devpotatowill keep banging on it12:51
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tizendevpotato: Yeah, I'm on my way out... That's what I had to do to get it to work on that other system... Good luck12:51
snoopwillcooke, okay12:51
tizengeppy: When he comes back, let him know i'm gone if he asks.12:51
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tizenif you're still here12:51
geppytizen:  Will do.12:52
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WillCookesnoop, at the bottom you'll see a HEX key, copy this to the clipboard (ctrl-c)12:52
snoop6a6f736570687334 okay12:52
WillCookesnoop, oops.  Don't tell everyone your password!12:52
snoopyea...i will change it..12:52
snoopforgot i had it in my ctrl c12:52
WillCookesnoop, :) Right... do this..12:53
socommPffff, not l337 enough.12:53
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WillCookesnoop, sudo iwconfig wlan0 <your essid name> <that hex key>12:53
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windows-farhani so want to install ubuntu.. lol12:54
windows-farhanit sounds so nifty...12:54
br-1hola estadounidenses putos12:54
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socommI so want to install Microsoft Windows ... lol12:54
socommIt souns like a masochist wet dream.12:55
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snoopwillcooke, says unrecognized..12:55
windows-farhani have a linux box so ..to diskingwish myself12:55
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xybriei dot have the original windows12:55
drspinanyone wanna help me with a sound problem real quick?12:55
xybriebill gates ass old12:55
WillCookesnoop, join #snoop12:55
xybriethe real quick is a shitt12:56
The-Ghost|afkany one whant to help?12:56
The-Ghost|afkore can help12:56
windows-farhani do thing hoarry has speakup support. at least it should12:56
windows-farhancause its in the univese package list12:56
socommWhy is speakup a must have?12:56
drspinI just want to know what I should dpkg-reconfigure after I modprobe my sound drivers...12:56
socommI need to know.12:56
windows-farhani'm blind need speakup to install12:57
stuNNedhow can i tell if my rythmbox is using xine or gstreamer?12:57
esherhow can i load a module (i2c) that is compiled bei "m", but i dont know the real name of it .. i see it only in my .config12:57
windows-farhani'm currently using debian12:57
windows-farhanand am debating on wasting a cd on ubuntu that may not work12:57
xybriewhere are you from socomm ?????12:57
drspinOR I would like to know why I'm only getting sound out of one side and static out of the other?12:57
HrdwrBoBwasting a CD?12:57
HrdwrBoByou mean less than 50c worth of CD12:57
schweebstuNNed: in the about dialogue, I believe12:57
socommxybrie: sri lanka.12:58
drspinwindows-farhan: you can also order one off of the website...but I think it's Hoary only12:58
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xybriewhere is that ???12:58
stuNNedHrdwrBoB: hi! how to tell if my rhythmbox is using gst or xine?12:58
xybriei am from argentina12:58
windows-farhanthe reason why is before i do this. i need to get speakup support it in there or12:58
HrdwrBoBstuNNed: it uses gstreamer12:58
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stuNNedHrdwrBoB: aha! thanks :D12:58
socommDoesn't Ubuntu have that "We'll send you a CD, so you don't have to waste on" thingamajig going?12:58
windows-farhani mean i see it in the package list so it is included on the cd?12:58
windows-farhani downloaded the iso12:58
schweebsocomm: yes12:58
schweebbut it takes a while to ship12:59
windows-farhanif craps in the package list is it  on the cd?12:59
windows-farhanits a 2.4 kurrnel12:59
windows-farhanspeak up is12:59
gino4466anyone...please...kernel panics up the ass..please help12:59
schweebwindows-farhan: if speakup is in universe, it is not on the CD01:00
windows-farhani tried to get the livecd of that gnome enabled..oh01:00
schweebwindows-farhan: which distro are you currently running?01:00
windows-farhanthe livecd of with gnopernicus01:00
The-Ghost|afkhmm what to do when the cd whan't to bot?01:00
The-Ghost|afkops the computer.01:00
The-Ghost|afkwhant's to bot01:00
The-Ghost|afkafter instaling Ubuntu on it01:00
windows-farhantake the cd out/01:00
The-Ghost|afki did take the cd out.01:01
schweebwindows-farhan: which branch? stable/testing/unstable ?01:01
The-Ghost|afkget msg no cd etc..01:01
The-Ghost|afkno bot etc.01:01
windows-farhanwell put the cd bag in01:01
The-Ghost|afkye then it will start instaling agein01:01
windows-farhanput it in when the messag apers01:01
schweebwindows-farhan: you could conceivably dist-upgrade to ubuntu01:01
windows-farhanmessage appears01:01
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The-Ghost|afkit's in01:02
schweebwindows-farhan: although the results may not be perfect01:02
windows-farhanhow anyway?01:02
schweebsame way you dist-upgraded to unstable01:02
schweebadd the ubuntu sources, apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade01:02
windows-farhani don'tno01:02
schweebanother option01:02
schweebuse debootstrap01:02
gino4466that sounds like learning spanish by having a spaniard yell at you for an hour01:03
windows-farhancan't someone just compile an iso with speakup 2.4 in it right quik?01:03
gino4466but that's just me :-P01:03
The-Ghost|afkwindows-farhan same msg.01:03
The-Ghost|afkops start screan01:03
schweebI've not used speakup ever, nor do I know any details about it01:03
windows-farhanits just a patch. lol01:03
windows-farhanall i want is an iso at the boot prompt i can type speakup speakup_synth=keyword01:04
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windows-farhanand it will start talkin01:04
hou5tonin Synaptic I don't see a package named Gimp-Print???  I thought there was supposed to be a package named that, so I could print photos from Gimp???01:04
windows-farhancause i have an external speech device01:04
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windows-farhanif someone made an iso like that. it would b nice. lol01:05
schweebyou could invest some time and figure it out yourself, heh01:05
windows-farhanor incorperate a 2.6 to speakup .lol i'm to busy for that01:06
Xappearray 6 install on my ibook g3, so far so good :) now i'm waiting for the packages configuration01:06
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joshuaHey.  I need to install xp on my other hdd realy quick.  And since it installs it's bootloader w/o prompting, I need to know.  How would I go about installing the grub boot loader without completely reinstalling ubuntu?01:09
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LightstarHow do i get the sound working?01:10
zenroxjoshua,  thare is a way (i dont know how) but have hope01:10
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joshuaHeheh, thanks zenrox. :)01:11
BlissexLightstar: starting from scratch?01:11
Quest-Masterjoshua: I've done it before01:12
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R0bNycAnyone has the mplayer-plugins?01:12
schweebjoshua: your choices are boot from knoppix, or boot from a linux installer cd01:12
Quest-Masterjoshua: It is quite easy. Follow the instructions on http://www.ubuntuguide.org/01:12
mrproperDoes anyone know why the dbus version in Horay is so old?01:12
joshuaThanks, Quest-Master01:12
schweebjoshua: then run grub-install again01:12
Quest-Masterschweeb: There's an even easier way at UbuntuGuide01:12
Quest-Masterschweeb: Not needed01:12
Quest-MasterR0Nyc: Yeah.. they can be installed through: sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer01:13
R0bNycQuest-Master, thanks01:13
schweebQuest-Master: ... that does the same thing, I just said, in different words...01:13
schweebboot from a linux installer cd... run the grub shell, manually install01:14
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Xappehmm, so...what's the HorizSync and VertRefresh on an ibook g3?01:16
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LightstarHow can i get sound in ubuntu? Gnome doesn't find my soundcard where are the preferences for the sound card?01:22
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SlipAway172why is ubuntu is so popular in www.distrowatch.com with 1800 hits per day01:23
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zenroxLightstar,  look in the sound and video for volume controle01:24
zenroxSlipAway172,  its casue of the couminty it created01:24
zenroxSlipAway172,  i like it casue of the help i receved using it ( and i have bine using linux for 4 years)01:25
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SlipAway172but it isnt well settled01:25
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SlipAway172only one release01:25
Lightstarzenrox, gnome doesn't find any mixers..01:25
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zenroxSlipAway172, and a new releace in may01:25
zenroxLightstar,  you have a isa sound card??01:26
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SlipAway172when like mandrake or suse ( very good OS) have released about 10+01:26
zenroxSlipAway172,  ya but ubuntu is going for 1 releace every 6 months01:26
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Lightstarzenrox, i have ESS card01:26
zenroxSlipAway172, have you read the forums01:27
zenroxLightstar,  is that and isa card01:27
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fsc_i got some very odd error/msgs from updating to hoary.01:27
zenroxSlipAway172, or the wiki01:27
Lightstarzenrox, i don't know think so01:27
fsc_can i paste them here for someone to tell me what went wrong?01:27
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zenroxLightstar,  white slot or a blake slot that its pluged in to01:28
zenroxok then is pci and pnp01:28
zenroxLightstar,  do a sudo modprobe sb01:29
zenroxthen try to play a sound01:29
Lightstarzenrox, ok.. i shall try.. see if that works.. hope so =)01:29
LinuxJonesfsc, paste in pastebin.ca then post th link01:29
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geppygiard: If you're here, tizen left.01:30
aschartim running the live CD but my resolution is 640X480 and my printers dont work. Is that cause im just running off the CD?01:31
fsc_and after that it stops, i dont know if it means its finished. I just installed linux for the first time.01:31
pipelineaschart: Printer configuration in linux is hell in any case.01:31
pipelineaschart: The 640x480 thing is probably easier to resolve.01:31
Lightstarzenrox, hey it worked! Thx =)01:31
zenroxLightstar,  now we need to do more01:32
zenroxLightstar,  so hold on and dont reboot01:32
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Lightstarzenrox, ok..01:32
aschartok thanks. any suggestions?01:32
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LinuxJonesfsc, try apt-get upgrade again01:33
fsc_that means doing it from top_01:33
zenroxLightstar,  you need to do a sudo gedit /etc/modules and add the line at the bottem sb and thats it save the file and it will work after a reboot as well01:33
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fsc_because if it is, ill do it tomorrow01:33
pipelineaschart: Read the torrents of documentation.  BSD-style printing supports hardly any printers.  CUPS is hell to setup.  Most printers aren't even supported under linux.01:33
pipelineaschart: The graphics thing will probably prove trivial, don't even worry about it.  If you know what your graphics card is and you know what the maximum resolution / refresh rate of your monitor is, you should be fine.01:34
LinuxJonesfsc, no just type it again in console01:34
zenroxbut pipeline  who need to print01:34
fsc_LinuxJones, no error messages.01:34
pipelinezenrox: I need to print all the time.  But I own a sane and reasonable PCL-capable printer that doesn't require "drivers"01:34
aschartpipeline: oh that sucks. it has my printer in the setup list so i just assumed it should work lol01:34
pipelineaschart: Say lol to me again and I'll just ignore you.01:35
Lightstarzenrox, thanks for the help!01:35
LinuxJonesfsc, good that happens sometimes01:35
zenroxpipeline,  ya thats good but my printer works but networken it with smb/ and or the cups protical is a pain01:35
fsc_so it is compatible now_01:35
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LinuxJonesfsc, looks that way01:36
pipelinezenrox: CUPS is a pain in the ass.  Windows supports lpd printers.  My home network looks like 1989.01:36
l00pIs Brian Cairns here?01:36
fsc_alright, great, i am gonna hop into bed now. Thanks for the quick walk through!01:36
aschartdang dude my bad, too much aol01:36
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zenroxpipeline,  join the club  but at least thay like to talk to each other and one like to send me my x packets so i can run a progam on it and save my ram and have it displayed on this one01:38
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LinuxJonesall of my Gnome icons have disappeared from the menus, also the keyboard only prints 1 character if I hold down any key... :(01:39
zenroxLinuxJones,  restart the xserv01:40
l00pIs there a gnome wireless applet?01:40
zenroxl00p,  yes01:40
LinuxJoneszenrox, yeah I am upgrading right now will do in :30 secs01:40
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zenroxLinuxJones,  then thats all you need to ho01:40
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LinuxJoneszenrox, I thought you called me ho there for a second :P01:41
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l00pZenrox, How do I install it?01:42
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theineHi, are there any bluetooth user space applications in main?01:42
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LinuxJoneszenrox, same problem wth is going on :(01:46
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phosphorgreendoes anyone know when the new look ubuntu website from the competition is going live?01:47
phosphorgreenthe current layout is poo01:47
jordanauhey phosphor green you helped we with my wireless yesterday, i got it set up thanks01:48
jdubphosphorgreen: possibly for hoary release.01:48
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Xappehmm, feels like the ibook gets really warm when running Hoary...what could I do about this?01:50
XappeI hear no fans starting whatsoever01:50
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SneakyMonkeyhello I was wondering if someone could help me out with a problem with my install?01:59
SneakyMonkeyof Ubuntu01:59
zenroxSneakyMonkey,  whats going one give more info01:59
SneakyMonkeyI have installed Ubuntu on a Pentium 200mhz cpu02:00
zenroxSneakyMonkey,  ya02:00
airoxGo on :)02:00
SneakyMonkeythe install went fine but once I tried to boot I would come to the LInux screen02:00
GhostFreemanAnyone have any XMMS .EQF presets?02:00
SneakyMonkeyit would what I think is try and load the GNOME login screen02:00
SneakyMonkeyand the monitor goes black02:01
airoxSneakyMonkey: How long did you waited ?02:01
SneakyMonkeyabout 4 minutes02:01
SneakyMonkeyI have a feeling it is something to do with the graphics card02:01
SneakyMonkeybut I was hoping I might get some help here too02:01
airoxCould be, the computer itself isn't very fast to...02:02
zenroxSneakyMonkey,  how much ram02:02
zenroxhmm it can02:02
zenroxwhats the gfx card02:02
SneakyMonkeywell a 256 stick just it only registers as 12802:02
zenroxSneakyMonkey,  thats cause the mobo only supports 12802:02
SneakyMonkeylet me go see02:02
SneakyMonkeyyeah I relized that02:03
zenroxi bet it ran 95 just fine02:03
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SneakyMonkeyS3 Trio 64v02:04
SneakyMonkeywell 98 :p02:04
reverCan someone give me a hand. I just installed Ubuntu to my system but am unable to boot into a gui.02:04
reverMy video card is an Nvidia 6600GT02:05
reveron agp02:05
SneakyMonkeygo to the fourms and you should find an answer02:05
drspinI think I may put windows XP back on this machine and go back to doing graphic design for a living :/02:05
drspinstill have my Ubuntu on my other system ;)02:06
zenroxSneakyMonkey,  you might have to install the nvidia drivers?? dont think so might be a config error with montor and/or gfx card02:06
zenroxand i dont know about a s3 trio02:07
SneakyMonkeywell that is what the chipset says on the card02:07
zenroxrever,  read www.ubuntuguide.org for nvidia driver setup02:07
SneakyMonkeyI believe it is before the days of nvidia02:07
zenroxSneakyMonkey,  thats what i was thinking02:07
reverzenrox, Ok Thanks02:07
SneakyMonkeyI know I have Slackware 10.0 on another system that has a not so powerful card and that runs GNOME 2.6 fine02:09
SneakyMonkeyI could swap cards02:10
zenroxSneakyMonkey,  if you can give it a shot02:10
zenroxthen go tharu the install agine02:10
SneakyMonkeywould there be any problem with just trying to boot with the new card in02:10
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SneakyMonkeyand hoping Linux sees the difference in the boot process02:11
airox'hoping' :)02:11
SneakyMonkeywell I had to take a CD ROM out of an other computer just to install it02:11
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airoxIt's worth it ;)02:12
SneakyMonkeyas you can probably tell the 200mhz machine has a lot of failing hardware02:12
zenroxSneakyMonkey,  youd have ot reconfigure  ubuntu02:12
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zenroxit be easer to just reinstall02:12
airoxhi sleeper02:12
sleeperi need some help please02:12
zenroxat this point SneakyMonkey02:12
sleeperti uninstall 1 program manually02:12
airoxsleeper: Go right ahead.02:13
airoxYou lost me already.02:13
sleepersudo apt-get ..................02:13
SneakyMonkeywell thank you for the help02:13
sleeperi ned remove mldonkey02:13
airoxsleeper: You want to delete software ?02:13
zenroxSneakyMonkey,  you know whare to look02:13
SneakyMonkeyI shall try these things and see if there are any improments02:13
SneakyMonkeyI love IRC02:13
airoxsleeper: Did you installed it with apt-get ?02:13
airox(or from a debian package)02:14
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airoxDo you want to delete the configyration files also ?02:14
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sleeperwith apt-get install02:14
airoxconfiguration ...02:14
sleepery want remove all02:14
mdke_laptopdoes anyone know if the wiki's can have multiple parents?02:14
airoxapt-get --purge remove mldonkey02:14
sleeperairox:it dont work02:15
airoxsleeper: sudo apt-get --purge remove mldonkey02:15
sleeperairox: dont work02:16
sleeperdont find02:16
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airoxDon't find what ?02:16
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sleeperairox: mldonkey02:16
airoxsleeper: Then you have to get the name of the package.02:17
sleeperbut it is here02:17
airoxman apt-cache;02:17
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Xappehmm. my ibook runs quite hot when running ubuntu (Hoary). is this a known issue that can be fixed?02:17
sleeperdont exist entry02:17
airoxit is there sleeper02:18
airoxOtherwise I can't help you further without me doing all the things.02:18
sleeperdont work02:18
airoxOtherwise you will return a few days later and ask another question that can be looked up.02:19
airoxsleeper: man man02:19
dmalleryhi...  could someone please help me with a warty install hang?02:19
sleepersorry but my english is very bad02:19
airoxsleeper: sorry, gtg now02:19
goldfishgot to go02:20
airoxgot to go, i have to sleep..02:20
airoxbye and good luck sleeper02:20
dmalleryhi...  could someone please help me with a warty install hang?02:21
airoxdmallery: Yes.02:21
dmalleryhi on a supermicro 370de6 mobo (2x p3 1k) at the reboot in install it gets to "starting hotplug subsystem" hits the disk a few times and sits there forever.  i added noapic to the boot line. that removed the MP_BIOS error. i have tried every permutation of acpi=off and  noacpi... no joy.02:21
airoxJust ask, there are enough people to answer.02:21
airoxdmallery: pci=noapci you mean ?02:21
dmalleryperhaps that\s it?02:21
airoxtry it.02:22
dmalleryi go and try it now thanks!!02:22
airoxgood luck to you to!02:22
airox3 hours of sleep... *ouch*02:22
airoxwell bye folks!02:22
blizahubuntu come w/ an ftp client?02:25
blizah...just use firefox?02:25
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Blissexblizah: there are _lots_ of FTP clients. But Firefox is not too bad, especially for download-only FTP.02:28
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blizahhrm ive typed in the ip to an ftp and nothing is happening (in firefox02:29
blizahill make sure its correct02:29
blizahftp://(ip address)             that how i type it?02:29
blizahits a friends ftp...02:30
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Quest-MasterNautilus is perfectly fine for most FTP stuff02:31
Blissexblizah: do you need to specify user/pass?02:31
Blissexblizah: but yes, ftp://IPADDR/ should work.02:31
shekharhello anyone here familiar with ubuntu for powerpc? just installed on my pb g4 and encountered problems...02:31
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Blissexblizah: but also try 'lftp'/'ncftp' (command line), 'gmc'/'nautilus', and 'gftp'.02:32
blizahyea ive found gftp02:32
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blizahtnx agian02:32
dmalleryairox: no joy on the hotplug hang...02:37
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Aronhey all02:38
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AronI'm having funny problems with Firefox, does anyone else get random deadlocks/terminations when you type letters in?02:38
AronIt's a certain letter, pseudorandomly picked every time...today it's 'g' :P02:39
Aronhow the HELL do I fix this?02:39
AronAnyone here?02:39
Quest-MasterAron: Wow02:40
Aronand it just took most of GNOME with it02:40
Quest-MasterAron: That is really weird02:40
Aronthis is getting screwy02:40
Quest-MasterAre you on Warty?02:40
AronUpgrade time?02:40
Quest-MasterThat's even weirder02:40
reverOk I am trying to follow the instructions on the website but I can't use apt. I can do everything on the net using ip but my DNS does not work. Although they are setup right in the resolv.conf02:40
Quest-MasterAron: Try upgrading to Hoary02:41
Aronok...now how do I go about doing that and keeping what I've got on here?02:41
AronI assume a core upgrade is possible.02:41
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`shanewhat's the switch to kill a terminal after running a program from it?02:42
Aronyup, my window panel just died a horrible death02:43
Aronsomebody help me out, lol...this thing is getting nuts @_@02:43
mikepAron: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade02:43
Aronand I'll keep my stuff?02:44
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mikepi did not loose anything02:44
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NateDoodCan someone please make a recommendation about what program to use in Ubuntu to play DVD's??02:45
AronI'm gonna restart and clear this bloody thing before I upgrade02:46
Arontrying to upgrade a system currently in the process of self-destruction doesn't sound safe02:46
dmalleryhi...  could someone please help me with a warty install hang?02:47
`shaneVLC howto02:47
`shanefixed me right up with DVDs02:47
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knucksCan someone please help me set up my printer?02:48
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NateDoodthanks for the feedback shane:02:49
Coilydoes anyone know how to test my router for snmp capability?02:49
Coilyi forgot the command for doing such02:49
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f3if i put in in (hd0,0) in the gurb setup that would put it on partiton 1 right, not the mbr?02:49
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Aronok, I'm back...so it's sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?02:49
knucksWho can help me set up my printer?02:50
mikepAron: yes02:50
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Aronit gave me a pair of 404s but it's going...02:50
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AronGet:1 http://security.ubuntu.com warty-security/main login 1:4.0.3-28.5ubuntu6.1  [480kB] 02:51
AronErr http://security.ubuntu.com warty-security/main vim-common 1:6.3-025+1ubuntu2 .102:51
Aron  404 Not Found02:51
AronErr http://security.ubuntu.com warty-security/main vim 1:6.3-025+1ubuntu2.102:51
Aron  404 Not Found02:51
Aronbut I think it downloaded after that.02:51
knucksPlease, someone. ineed to get my printer working02:51
AronKnucks: What kind of printer, and what's it doing?02:52
knucksepson c6402:52
knucksubuntu recognizes it02:52
AronI'm running a C82, same driver :)02:52
knucksand i have the drives for it02:52
Aron1 sec02:52
Aronyou're SURE?02:52
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knucksbut it wont show up after i add it02:52
Aronis it on when you try to add it?02:52
mikepAron: http://ubuntuguide.org/ will answer alot of questions.02:52
knucksit doesnt give me an error or anything02:52
knucksjust wont show up after i click add02:52
Aronassuming my browser doesn't total my system again lol02:53
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knucksaron: u running hoary or warty?02:53
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haydenhi people02:54
mikepAron: also use "apt-get update and apt-get upgrade" daily.02:55
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Aronmikep: Thanks, and I'm currently on Warty, upgrading now02:56
knuckswow its like no one hears me02:57
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mikepAron: Yes Sir02:57
mikepknucks: I'm having trouble with my printer also or I would help you02:58
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knuckswell ARon has his working02:58
knucksbut hes on warty02:58
knucksmine used to work on warty02:58
knucksand thne i upgraded and it no longer works02:58
Aronoh dear02:58
haydeni'm trying to play  dvd with gxine ive installed the files from RestrictedFormats but it still says this Read error from: /dev/dvd02:58
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Aronok, my upgrades are failing02:59
Zotnixhayden, how many hard drives do you have?02:59
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AronI figured I had to do a normal upgrade before a dist-upgrade after the dist-upgrade didn't work...02:59
Zotnixhayden, try /dev/hdb02:59
ZotnixIn the preferences I believe you can change it.02:59
Aronbut I still get this Ign http://userpages.umbc.edu ./ Release03:00
AronFetched 93.3kB in 10s (8578B/s)03:00
AronFailed to fetch http://userpages.umbc.edu/~fu1/debian/./Packages.gz  404 Not Found03:00
AronReading Package Lists... Done03:00
AronE: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.03:00
Aronthat's when I do apt-get update03:00
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crypticreignwhat happened to the great mouse cursours ?03:00
crypticreigni have ugly X ones now03:00
AronI killed it with fire. :P03:00
haydencrypticreign, did u upgrade to hoary?03:00
Burgundaviacrypticreign: a bug upstream03:00
crypticreignhayden: yeah03:00
haydenyeah that happened to me03:01
crypticreignhayden: i just installed array 603:01
crypticreignfresh install03:01
haydenthere was a good howto in the ubuntu forums, but i've lost the link03:01
haydenon how to get the cursors03:01
crypticreignill try to search03:02
haydenZotnix, it still gives an error read error from /dev/hdb03:02
cocolu need gcursors03:03
cocolapt it03:03
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haydenit can be done without gCursor03:03
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cocolhow? hayden03:04
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haydeni saw it on a ubuntuforum link03:04
WoodwizzleAnyone able to get beagle installed under hoary?03:04
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knucksI got my printer working :D03:05
Aronnice, how?03:06
knucksi just put a different driver..03:06
knucksand it showed up in printers..03:06
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knucksbut then i switched back to the right driver..03:06
knucksseems to work03:06
knucksits not identifying as the epson c64 but it works03:07
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rever1can someone help me I am following the nvidia instructs on the Ubuntu website. It says to do apt-get install linux-kernel-headers-1686 but when I do that I get package cannot be found03:09
rever1Ho can I install my kernel source to install the drivers for my kernel card.03:09
haydenZotnix, i got my dvd working with /dev/hdc on /dev/hdb lol03:09
knucksrever1 = are u sure ur repositories are all right?03:09
billytwowillyPL-2303 ttyUSB0: pl2303_open - failed submitting interrupt urb, error -2803:09
billytwowillyhow would I fix that ^03:10
rever1knucks, I commented out all from the default config and did an apt-get update no issues03:10
knucksdid you do #3 on that guide?03:11
haydenwhat is a good cd burning program that i can apt-get?03:11
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blizahis usr/bin/ where a bunch of programs are kept03:12
blizahlike the launch part of the programs?03:12
goldfishi think it is03:12
goldfishfrom what i have seen but i is a n00b :)03:13
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macewanwhich firefox03:13
macewanwhich gedit03:13
haydeni dun wanna install kde though03:13
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macewanyup /usr/bin03:14
Aronk, doing a distro upgrade now...and I do need a bail-out setting up firefox 1.0 after. 0.93 is so buggy...03:14
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goldfishhayden: i think grip is the name of one i used03:14
blizahso does /usr/bin contain every program?03:14
goldfishblizah: nope03:14
haydengrip only rips cds doesnt it goldfish03:14
goldfishblizah: for example azureus goes to /opt/azureus/03:14
goldfishhayden: ah right, u looking for dvd ...03:14
haydengoldfish, nah im looking for burning software now03:15
goldfishoh right03:15
blizahdoes azureus come installed on ubuntu?  or is in synaptic?03:15
Burgundaviablizah: programs are in /sbin /bin /usr/sbin /usr/bin03:15
rever1knucks, there was no #3 on this guide03:15
blizahk tnx03:15
goldfishblizah: synaptic, instuctions are on ubuntuguide.org03:15
Burgundaviablizah: /sbin - stuff to get system running03:15
knucksrever1: look on the how-to guide on ubuntuforus03:15
blizahah neat its very orginized03:15
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Burgundaviablizah: /bin stuff that is need day to day03:15
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Burgundaviablizah: /usr/sbin stuff that sysadmins need but not for the running of the system (apache, etc.)03:16
Burgundaviablizah: /usr/bin -- everything else03:16
blizahwow cool03:17
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blizahany idea where i would find the icon that appears when i open gftp...for a launcher icon?03:20
blizahive done a whereis gftp and looked everywhere that shows up03:20
blizahfound it03:20
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blizahhehe now i got another question :D03:21
woodwizzleI can't find the SVG icon themes in synaptic for Hoary. Are they there?03:21
blizahwhats the diff. between a *.png icon and an *.xpm icon?03:21
goldfishdifferent formats03:21
goldfishwell, thats obvious03:21
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blizahwhen i see two icons that are the same but the diff. file types looks like png is bigger and better attention to detail03:22
GhostFreemanHow can I tell if I install the ATI Drivers on my Kernel?03:23
GhostFreemanisnt there a terminal command03:23
blizaherm theres one to access the control pannel03:23
blizahati control pannel03:23
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f3if grub comes up when i boot it means i put it in the mbr?03:24
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blizahthast what i got from installing fglrx  --the ati stuff in ubuntu03:24
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GhostFreemanDoes there have to be a fireglcontrol directory for the drivers to work or what03:25
GhostFreemanI think I screwed up the install03:25
jesuelahh finally got xine working ;p03:25
haydenwhere is the kernel source code located in ubuntu warty03:25
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blizahghostfreeman open up synaptic package manager and search for fglrx03:25
Aronok...I did apt-get dist-upgrade.03:26
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Aronand Firefox just blew up03:26
blizahi apt-get installed fglrs-control, and fglrs-driver03:26
blizahthey arent the newest ati drivers but they are ati drivers03:26
GhostFreemanI see fglrx-driver checked off03:26
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blizahi guess you dont have to do control one if you dont need it03:27
GhostFreemannow installing fglrx-control and fglrx-driver-dev03:27
blizahmostly for dual display03:27
blizahdont need the dev one03:27
AronAnyone? Typing random letters STILL kills Mozilla.03:28
blizahwell dont think03:28
blizahim a n00b03:28
GhostFreemanok I installed it anyways03:28
Aronack, Firefox. :P03:28
GhostFreemanI want to see if I can run Doom 3 as good as I can in Windows :)03:28
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blizaharon i would help...but im a n00b03:28
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blizahghost you have cedega?03:28
blizahmight need it for doom 303:29
blizahnot sure...03:29
jesueldoom3 has a native unix binary03:29
GhostFreemanI'd like to stay away from emulators to be honest03:29
crypticreignhayden: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=16475&highlight=cursor03:29
jesuelit should be on the last cd03:29
blizahah what jesul said03:29
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jesuelThis is just what i heard of course :)03:29
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GhostFreemanI have Doom 3, but im going to try the Demo for performance purposes03:29
jesuelGhostFreeman, what graphics card?03:30
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jesuelit will be faster than windows most likely03:30
GhostFreemanRan Doom 3 in Windows at High settings03:30
haydencrypticreign, hmm03:30
hardkase_hey allim having some trouble with my multimedia03:30
blizahi wasnt too happy with doom 303:30
jesuelI prefer q303:31
hardkase_it says its playing my mp3s, but doesn't make any sound03:31
hardkase_what could be wrong ?03:31
hardkase_hl2 owns doom303:31
blizahhavent gotten a chance to play hl2 yet03:31
haydenno i think id owns doom303:31
jesuelHardKase, Ive not played hl2 *yet*03:31
hardkase_jesuel - i wish i was you, so i can play it for the first time again :)03:31
crypticreignhayden: doesnt seem to work03:32
GhostFreemanHL2 was the shaznet03:32
jesuelIll be installing hl2 tomorrow most likely. As long as it installs into my cedega installation03:32
haydencrypticreign, yea i didn't think it would03:32
GhostFreemanbut its full of bugs...and Steam...steam...lol03:32
bored2khl2 owns mario1 and any other thing around .03:32
jesuelyes, steam03:32
hardkase_steam is ok, once your installed lol03:32
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macewanwhereis the OpenOffice.org splash image stored?03:32
bored2kSteam is cool as long as u pay for it .. luckily, a friend gave me his account :D03:33
jesuelyeah cedega supposedly supports hl203:33
jesueland i have a pay account to cedega so. :)03:33
crypticreignhayden: i installed gcursor which lists that cursor theme, i can select it. but now sure how to set it03:33
GhostFreemanCedega does support HL203:33
Aronut2004 owns both anyway03:33
GhostFreemanbut its nowhere near as nice as running it in Windows03:33
bored2ka friend gmailed me cedega 4.2 .deb :D ...4 free :)03:33
jesuelbored2k, die. I want hl2, I just dont want to pay 50 bucks for it03:33
jesuelbored2k, 4.3 is out03:34
bored2kjesuel i didnt know, ill try to get it ASAP03:34
jesueljust was released recently03:34
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jesuelGhostFreeman, I dont wish to run windows :)03:35
crypticreignhayden: actually, it worked03:35
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jesuelGhostFreeman, Ill deal with emulation if i can avoid windows :)03:35
bored2kjesuel, for those not wanting to pay, there is always http://cs.rin.ru/forum/viewforum.php?f=1003:35
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Aronquestion: how do I know I successfully upgraded to Hoary? Also, Steam is evil...03:36
bored2kI only use cedega for Counter-Strike, so Steam/Cedega 4.2 have been working grateful so phar03:36
jesuelbored2k, those servers you can play a non-legit hl2 on eh?03:37
hardkase_i can play mp3s03:37
regeyaso can I (and am)03:37
tizenMyself, i prefer to listen to real coding music... cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp for me03:37
bored2kjesuel we used to, but after hl2 Gabe Newell got bitchy and is doing the impossible to not allow it03:37
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hardkase_i try to play xvids and i cant get a picture03:38
blizahbored2k does your microphone work in cs?03:38
blizahi cant get mine to work03:38
Thunderwoodwireless networking03:38
blizahthrough cedega...03:38
bored2kjesuel - they make cracks, but they get overwritten very soon... we still have NON STEAM servers made from ouselves :D:D03:38
GhostFreemanI'm only using Linux because I want to see what its like03:38
bored2kblizah when i tried i wasnt able to, but i hadnt configured my sound properly, i have to retry on that03:38
GhostFreemanand I like what I see03:38
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blizahhardkase i have just the link for ya :D03:39
GhostFreeman...I still don't see myself giving up Windows03:39
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bored2kGFreeman thats what everyones says at first :P , unless ur geek at Redmond hell camp working on windows servers03:39
Thunderwoodconfiguring the wireless network card somone...anyone03:39
hardkase_blizah - i likes links03:39
blizahhow to install mplayer...should play most files03:39
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blizahalso there is a codec it tells you to get03:40
hardkase_i have mplayer installed03:40
blizahgo to the last page on the thread (i think its the last) and they have a link to the new03:40
jesuelbored2k,  ill just either buy a copy online if i can find one on the cheap. Or ill look locally sooner or later.03:40
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bored2kjesuel to tell you the truth, hl2 online isn't worth the money...at ALL, unreal/quake/anything beats its online, so a cracked version is perfect -and updated03:41
jesuelbored2k, well mostly i want to play cs:source03:41
bored2kjesuel, on the contrary, Counter-Strike Source is worth every penny, and you can probably get a stand alone copy for far less than 50bucs03:41
blizahold normal cs >  cs source ?03:41
bored2kblizah source is cs with pimped out gphx03:42
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goldfishold cs is full of cheats03:42
goldfishon public servers anyway03:42
bored2kjesuel we have about 500 non steam cs:s servers ... so you could  just dl it03:42
goldfishi like the look source03:42
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bored2kI still play cs 1.6 tho, anyone can play it, runs better on linux, and my crappy gamer friends dont hav good enough PCs03:43
goldfishbored2k: cracked servers?03:43
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haydenwhere is the kernel source code for ubuntu found?03:43
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wixtech_Happy Hoary Preview Release Eve to one and all!03:44
blizahbored2k you have to run cs 1.6 through cedega right?03:44
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bored2kblizah yeah thru cedega/steam03:44
bored2kgoldfish NOT cracked servers, servers that arent even in steam03:44
cbgbI have just installed ubuntu and my monitor is blurring03:45
bored2kgoldfish we have a sh@#tload of servers, from india to arabia to texas to pto rico03:45
blizahcedega = cedega/steam?03:45
blizahor is there a special cedega steam edition?03:45
cbgbI just see like double icons03:45
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GregoryDhow much of a performance difference am I really going to get from going to the 386 to k7 kernel?03:45
bored2kblizah you download steam from steampowered.com , then do cedega SteamInstall.exe , install it, and  u open thru the normal cedega STEAM.exe03:46
regeyaok, rawk.  I couldn't get rails+sqlite going on my os x box at work, but after following the debian instructions on installing a complete ruby, it works fine on Ubuntu.  RAWK.03:46
wixtech_hoary question: has anyone had luck getting totem-gst to play any video files (mov, avi,etc)?03:46
blizahah ok bored2k thats what i did...thought you might have meant that theres a special cedega for steam :D03:46
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schweebwixtech_: I just  use totem-xine03:47
blizahhad a few weird happenings :D03:47
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schweebit's a simple solution, and tends to work better for me03:47
wixtech_scweeb: that's what I'm running too.03:48
wixtech_schweeb:  sorry for messing up your handle.03:48
schweebno prob, common mistake03:48
schweebmost people haven't figured out about tab nick completion or something :p03:48
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wixtech_schweeg:  it seems to me gst ought to work and that I'm doing something wrong or at least not Ubuntu by running xine.03:49
regeyaI use xchat-aqua at work, and just try to do tab nick completion in xchat-aqua.  I dare ya.03:49
blizahwoa there is a tab nick completion!! :D03:49
bored2kblizah how was ur hl2 performance on *nix?03:50
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bored2ki dont use point2play cuz i dont have money to pay for it and i just got cedega.deb 4 free :)03:50
regeyayour...the word is 'your'...it's only 2 bytes extra, two extra keystrokes. :-)03:50
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hardkase_anyone know a way to mount cd images on your hard drive to a virtual cd/dvd drive ?03:50
haydenwhere is the kernel source code for ubuntu found?03:50
hardkase_like daemon tools ? only for linux ?03:51
goldfishbored2k: how u get cedega for free?03:51
regeyaomg mah l33t hl g4mz0r si r0x0r ROR03:51
mdzhayden: linux-source-<version>, but if you only want to compile a module, use linux-headers-<version>03:51
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haydeni want the directory which it is in03:51
mdzit is not in a directory until you install the package03:51
regeyaok i gtg but t3h hl2 si r0x0r imho lol hth03:52
haydenFor RedHat 6.x users these files are installed in /usr/src/linux by default03:52
haydenFor RedHat 7.x users these files are installed in /usr/src/linux-2.4 by default03:52
haydenFor Suse 7.3 users these files are installed in /usr/src/linux-2.4.10.SuSE by default03:52
haydenDirectory containing linux kernel source code [] 03:52
blizahbored2k im talking about old cs03:52
hardkase_i like cs03:52
bored2kgoldfish I got it off the net / uploaded it to my Gmail account ; cedega is command line only so they cant charge for anything; u just install it and use it just as u would use wine03:52
hardkase_i brought some headphones, all specially for it03:52
blizahbut its been a little weird...like every 3 seconds the screen jumps in a very slight amount like its tring to render something (and i know my comp is fast enough for cs)03:52
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goldfishbored2k: oh right, cool, i thought u had to pay for it.03:52
bored2kgoldfish i can send it to you to a gmail or whatever, u wont see a "free dl" button on transgaming website :\03:53
bored2kblizah ok cool ; I only play 1.6 on nix btw03:53
goldfishbored2k: cool03:53
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Xappeanyone uses an ibook w/ ubuntu?03:54
wixtech_schweeb, : just figured out the tab nick completion trick.  thanks for the heads up!03:54
Xappehave some questions03:54
goldfishbored2k: nanafunk@gmail.com03:54
haydenDirectory containing linux kernel source code [] 03:54
goldfishif u dont mind03:54
blizahbored2k, 1.6 = good ol' cs?03:55
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goldfish1.0 !03:55
bored2kblizah yes 1.603:55
blizahwhen you load steam are your fonts real small?03:55
blizahand run together?03:55
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bored2kno blizah, at all03:55
YomicGah, I thought Ubuntu/Linux wasn't supposed to lag (much or at all)03:55
bored2kblizah i copied my apt-gotten msttcore [winblows]  fonts to the fake windows cedega installs03:56
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bored2kgoldfish >> Your message has been sent.03:56
mdzhayden: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/compile-kernel-module03:56
goldfishbored2k: thanks alot03:56
blizahbored2k what do i do to do that :D03:56
haydeni'm not compiling the kernel03:57
blizahjust apt get msttcore?03:57
haydeni just want to find the directory where the kernel source is at03:57
bored2kblizah apt-get install msttcorefonts, those are crappy winblows fonts03:57
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blizahhow do you get steam to use them?03:58
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bored2kblizah after downloaded, copy all ur fonts from /usr/share/fonts/truetype/msttcorefonts/ to $HOME/Transgaming_Drive/windows/fonts/03:58
wixtech_Xappe, :from the Ubuntu wiki re: ibook support "Known to work: graphics, disk, CPU scaling, USB, sound, wired network, CD burning, firewire, modem"03:58
crypticreignheh wtf, the weather applet only lists down to Georgia03:59
wixtech_Xappe, :" Known to NOT work: sleep/suspend, builtin wireless on newer models (i.e. Airport Extreme)"03:59
wixtech_Xappe, : " external display: does not work in Warty, works with new X.org server (now in Hoary)"03:59
bored2kgoldfish word of advice: get this dll http://www.dll-files.com/dllindex/dll-files.shtml?msvcr70 and place it in the /windows/system32 of cedega's fake windows...some games need it03:59
wixtech_Xappe, : I hope that helps.04:00
goldfishbored2k: ok, thanks alot04:00
jesuelgoldfish, you have a account with cedega or free one?04:00
goldfishnothing at the minute04:00
bored2kgoldfish np ; if i stumble across cedega 4.3 ill FW, ur email is already saved04:00
goldfishok, cheers04:01
bored2khe can still play other games, or CS/HL on non steam servers04:01
bored2kIve been wanting to get ut2004, but its freaking 4gb thick and I have way too much stuff on queue :@04:01
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GhostFreemanHey guys, I got this problem with resizing after installing the Doom 3 demo04:02
GhostFreeman"The X Server does not support the XRandR extension.  Runtime resolution changes to the display size are not available."04:02
GhostFreemanAny idea how I can get my screen resolution back the way it was?04:03
jesuel4gb download :)04:03
blizahbored2k, one more question...any way to make steam resizable, like grab w/ the mouse and make bigger, under cedega?04:04
bored2kblizah I can hardly get it to move position at times if thats an answer ...04:05
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blizahever fidn that you cant alt-tab out?04:05
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GhostFreemansorry about that04:05
bored2kblizah yes its annoying ; i just keep something open like a gaim window and press alt+f2 fr run app to display, wich works just as alt tab ;)04:06
blizahah k04:06
GhostFreemanAnybody know how I can get my resolution back04:06
blizahlemme know if you figure out to get microphone working :D04:06
blizahin ubuntu ghost?04:07
blizahyou running warty?04:07
GhostFreemanYeah but I get this error when I access the setting in Gnome: "The X Server does not support the XRandR extension.  Runtime resolution changes to the display size are not available."04:07
blizahtheres a file called xfconfig (i think) that holds the resolutions04:07
blizahyea same thing i think04:07
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blizahnot sure the location but xfconfig or somethign close to that holds the resolutions04:08
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GhostFreemanI can;t find it04:08
haydenwhat directory is the kernel source code for ubuntu found?04:08
underlordhey, i changed my warty installations repositoriesd to the hoary ones and dod an update and upgrade, but when i reboot my usb is destroyed, linux sees the root hub devices (the usb ports) but nothing attached to them, what could be the cause?04:09
LordCUpon trying to edit my gnome menus, i try "applications:///" in nautilus, but it simply tells me the destination is invalid. Any ideas why?04:10
bored2kwell I'm off ; Frag on ppl ... frag - ON04:11
GhostFreemanGuys I can't figure this out04:11
Xappewixtech_, well no. my question is if anyone else have the problem of the ibook running quite warm with Hoary, and if I can do something do minimize the problem. I don't want to damage the thing (heck, it's not even mine)04:11
GhostFreemanI want my resolution back at 1024x76804:11
underlordi want my mouse and modem to work04:11
CraigBGhost:  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:11
vonschutteranyone know how to do an unattended install of Ubuntu?04:12
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mdzhayden: there is no point in repeatedly asking if you will not listen to the answer04:12
GhostFreemanxserver-xorg is not installed04:12
CraigBwarty or hoary?04:12
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wixtech_Xappe: I just saw your post on the ubuntuforums.  sorry I can't help you, I'm a wintel guy.04:13
mebaran151any of you guys know if the Blackbery 7100t is supported by evolution04:13
CraigBoh.  no clue then.04:13
blizahill try to find it for ya ghost04:13
crypticreignis there anyway to bookmark a location in nautilus? (power went out missed the response)04:13
mebaran151and also04:13
mebaran151does my i950 get support under linux yet04:13
mebaran151Canon unfortunately04:14
blizahsudo gedit /etc/X11/XF86Config-404:14
blizahthat might be it04:14
GregoryDwhen you dist-upgrade to hoary, does it automatically switch you to the xorg xserver?04:14
blizah"then search for Section "Screen"/Subsection(s) "Display" and order the 'Modes' for each color-depth the way you want.04:15
blizahThe first mode on each line is the one X11 starts in."04:15
crypticreignyes GregoryD04:15
haydenmdz, coz ur answer is wrong04:15
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GregoryDalright, cool then... everything upgraded flawlessly and my volume control even works correctly now04:15
GhostFreemanso I edit one line here and I can go back to 10x7?04:15
wixtech_Xappe: you're not alone.  Check out this post by a debian ibook user http://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2004/10/msg00031.html04:15
awtomlinsoncan someone please help with mounting a second ide hard drive?04:15
mdzhayden: I'm afraid not, but it's clear that you're not interested04:15
GregoryDthat, and my microphone works so I'm able to use an external cable to get my ATI TV wonder card's sound working right again04:16
LordCHow do you add more items to the gnome menu?04:16
awtomlinsoni do a mkdir in /dev & create a directory called hdd.  then i do a mkdir in /mnt & create a directory called drive204:16
mebaran151awtomlinson, DONT DO THAT04:16
GhostFreemanOnce I edit the XF86Config, any terminal command to reset things?04:16
mebaran151dont touch dev04:16
awtomlinsonthen i do a mount -t reiserfs /dev/hdd /mnt/drive204:16
mebaran151unless you know what you are doing04:17
crypticreignhow does ubuntu mount network nfs drives on boot? i dont nee netmount04:17
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mebaran151it wont be dev04:17
awtomlinsonmebaran151, so how do i do it?04:17
mebaran151first off04:17
mebaran151do you know what it is named04:17
mebaran151the drive that is04:17
mebaran151it wont be hdd04:17
vonschutteranyone know about installing ubuntu?04:18
crypticreignwe all do04:18
crypticreigni think04:18
mebaran151what kind of IDE drives are hooked04:18
mebaran151awtomlinson, opitcal etc04:18
vonschutterdo you know how to install it automatically?04:18
vonschutterkile with a kickstart file?04:19
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vonschutterlike i mean...04:19
crypticreignoh i dont know04:19
crypticreignim sure someone does04:19
mebaran151vonschutter, start what04:19
schweebvonschutter: afaik that's not available in warty04:19
schweebit's planned for hoary, although I don't know if it's complete04:19
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vonschutterby the way... what does "afaik" mean?04:20
GhostFreemanThat didn't do anything04:20
mebaran151what did you need04:20
crypticreignas far as i know04:20
GhostFreemanmy screen resolution is still at 1280x102404:20
GhostFreemanWhat do I do now04:20
mebaran151GhostFreeman, where do you want it at04:20
GhostFreeman1024x768 at 85Hz04:20
mebaran151just edit XF86Config04:20
mebaran151comment out those modes04:20
mebaran151with 1280 x 102404:21
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GhostFreemanand then?04:21
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mebaran151I mean delete them04:21
mebaran151kill X04:21
mebaran151or you could just ctrl-alt-+ or minus until you get the resolution you want04:22
schweebvonschutter: as far as i know04:22
GhostFreemanctrl-alt-+ does nothing04:22
mebaran151try this04:22
mebaran151I think you have an X config utility04:22
vonschutterschweeb: what, buddy?04:23
GhostFreemanI can run xf86config04:23
mebaran151just dont let it select those modes04:23
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mebaran151that you dont want04:23
mebaran151I think it lets you04:23
error_29Does anybody know why hoary removed gnome-terminal from the menus?04:23
mebaran151I have it04:24
schweebgood lord04:24
schweebfricking clippy for Linux04:24
crypticreignisnt there a clippy clone in OOO>?04:24
zenroxewwww i dont wnat to tuch it04:24
mebaran151I DO04:25
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mebaran151what am I touching04:25
mebaran151do I get a pole04:25
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zenroxyes 100 foot04:25
mebaran151I need more04:26
GhostFreemanThis thing04:26
GhostFreemanis kicking my ass04:26
mebaran151try this04:26
zenroxGhostFreeman,  try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree8604:26
mebaran151I just use the frontend04:27
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mebaran151when it asks for resolutions04:27
mebaran151just say no to drugs, I mean to the resolutions you dont want04:27
GhostFreemanit never asks04:28
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zenroxGhostFreeman,  you can also edit a file sudo /etc/X11/xfree86conf i think and add the resulution to the file and then resart x04:29
GhostFreemanwould I remove all references to 1280x102404:29
mebaran151do so04:30
mebaran151if you dont want it04:30
mebaran151just make it go away04:30
GhostFreemanand to reset x?04:30
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zenroxthat was quick04:30
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mebaran151I kill X regularly04:31
mebaran151just so it knows who is boss04:31
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zenroxme too04:31
mebaran151you cant let X take on more than you can handle04:31
GhostFreemanGot it at 10x704:31
zenroxthat work04:31
GhostFreemanNow how do I set it to 85Hz if not by defalt04:31
BobaFettGuys...Im having a bit of a predicament with k3b...is there a way to create a desktop launcher that starts in a root command line?04:31
zenroxgo thau the display config04:32
zenroxand set it04:32
zenroxin gnome04:32
awtomlinsonmebaran151, sorry.  this is an old hard drive from my last computer.  its connected via ide04:32
GhostFreemanStill getting XRandR errors04:32
Xappewhat is normal temp for a laptop hdd? hddtemp gives me 47C...04:32
BobaFettGhostFreeman: Change the resolution and hz in 'Computer'-'Screen resolution' and mark the 'set as defaults for this user' checkbox.04:33
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zenroxGhostFreeman,  might have to ad that to that same config file under montior but i dont know how to do that04:33
GhostFreemanIt would be great if I could have this setting back in Gnome04:33
awtomlinsoncan anyone help mount a second ide hard drive?04:34
GhostFreemanmy monitor tells me that FV: 85Hz but FH: 60Hz so I don't know if that's true 85Hz04:34
mark_awtomlinson --- what-for-setup do you have?04:34
awtomlinsonmark, its my old hard drive. i want to back up some data to my new system.  my current system has 1 windows partition, and 1 linux swap, & 2 reiser partitions.  i just want to mount the /home directory on the old hard drive.  its also reisr04:36
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BobaFettGuys...Im having a bit of a predicament with k3b...is there a way to create a desktop launcher that starts in a root command line?04:37
rrichehi.  wine checks for /dev/dsp and fails.. and this just happened.. any idea what i might look for? yes.. i know i am using OSS.. but my nforce chipset doesnt like alsa.  this all worked.. i have ran updates recently... what could i look for that may have screwed with this?04:37
rrichemy sound works everywhere else04:37
rricheso the system recognizes sound04:37
mark_awtomlinso -- I'll assume you have the second drive as a slave.  In that case choose a directory on your main drive (make a directory called /mnt/backup if you want)04:38
mark_awtomlinson -- then, in a terminal either sudo su - to become root - or sudo /mnt/hdb1 /mnt/backup -- that should mount your old / structure under the /mnt/backup directory04:38
mark_awtomlinson - you may have seperate paritions on the old drive -- like hdb1 is root and hdb2 is home -- is so, replace the hdb_ with whatever you need ..04:39
rricheyah.. the sound test in Point2Play stats that it was unable to open /dev/dsp04:40
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mark_rriche - do you have sounds enabled for events in gnome? -- sometimes that will 'lock' the sound device not allowing anything else access to it ... maybe try that first ...04:41
rrichei have sound events enabled in GAIM04:41
mark_gaim grabs /dev/dsp04:41
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mark_no problem04:42
rricheoh boy04:43
rrichealsa works now too04:43
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rrichei guess they fixed my nforce crap in hoary or something04:43
mark_oh - you're using hoary?04:43
mark_Hoary moved from using esound to polypaudio04:43
rricheis that a good thing? seems so04:43
schweebmark_: and back to esound04:44
schweebpolypaudio isn't production ready04:44
rrichealsa always failed for me cuz i was too stubborn to go with a compatible intel chipset04:44
mark_schweeb: when?04:44
schweebabout an hr ago04:44
mark_:) -- haven't updated since this morning04:44
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schweebwell, don't think the packages have been generated with the changes yet04:44
mark_although - I'd argue that esound isn't exactly 'production ready'04:45
GhostFreemanI have a personal question for the people here04:45
schweebbut mdz and crew decided it wasn't good enough for preview, and removed it04:45
schweebesound is production ready04:45
mark_interesting ...04:45
GhostFreemanDoes it ever get old answering all the newb questions04:45
schweebit just sucks04:45
schweebit works for the most part04:45
mark_schweeb -- touche ...04:45
schweebjust sounds shitty, etc...04:45
mark_it always chokes on my snd-atiixp alsa setup04:46
schweebI don't care enough about mixed audio to use either04:46
rrichehoary is hot though04:47
mark_That's a good point - but I'm surprised by how often I actually need mixed audio ...04:47
mark_I would love hoary if Evolution had a calendar export feature like Korganizer ....04:48
mark_but - that's not hoary's fault04:48
Bandithello guys04:48
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schweebEvo can't export to iCal?04:49
schweebthought it could04:49
mark_naw - not that04:49
error_29Can anyone tell me how to mount my other ubuntu partition?  All I can find googling is instructions on mounting windows partitions04:50
mark_I like Korganizer's Web Export feature -- allows me to print a 'calendar view' with all the text showing up in each calendar day04:50
mark_Maybe it's 'export to html'04:50
zenroxerror_29,  read www.ubuntuguide.org04:51
JDahlsorry for off-topic: Does anyone have experience with both Arch and Subversion? I need something other than cvs for a small project (3-5 members), and from the reviews I read Subversion is probably the way to go - anyone prefers Arch instead?04:51
mark_or - maybe someone knows how to get Evolution to print the full description of an event in a day-block with the month view04:51
error_29Yes zenrox, I have been.  But it's only talking about ntfs and fat32 partitions.04:52
error_29I suppose I'll just plug in my best guesses...04:52
zenroxsame tang just ext3 or what ever your file sys is tho04:52
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billytwowillycan anyone recommend a program to convert ical to vcal?04:54
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BROKEN_LADDERwhat's a good audio file tag editor?04:57
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BROKEN_LADDERsomething that supports vorbis and aac, as well as UTF-8 of course.04:57
tritiumBROKEN_LADDER, easytag04:57
BROKEN_LADDERit has major problems with utf-804:58
BROKEN_LADDERand it tries to lowercase my genres.04:58
tritiumoh, didn't know thta04:58
BROKEN_LADDERthat drives me freaking bananas!04:58
BROKEN_LADDERi start typing "ALTERNATIVE" and it turns it to "Alternative".  I didn't fucking ask bitch!04:58
tritiumeasy there ;)04:59
BROKEN_LADDEReverything does that.  grip does it, xmms does it.04:59
BROKEN_LADDERi hate that crap.04:59
mark_out of curiousity -- why do you need all caps?04:59
schweeball caps is horrid04:59
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GhostFreemanI think I got my Hz Rate sorted out05:00
GhostFreemanthanks again everyone.05:00
schweebjust for future reference, punctuation and capitalization exist to make text flow better, and be more legible05:00
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autoDoes anyone know why blackbox would see/be able to use the artwiz fonts but fluxbox cannot?05:00
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autothe fonts show up in xfontsel05:01
zenroxoh crap05:01
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schweebdo they show up in the gnome font selector stuff?05:01
mark_zenrox - what are you crapping?05:02
autolet me check05:02
zenroxthe netsplit05:02
GhostFreemanthe internet is broken05:03
autono they dont show up in the gnome font selector05:03
schweebI believe flux for the most part uses your gnome settings wherever possible (if you have g-s-d loaded)05:03
mark_oh - I get it05:03
schweebtry putting the fonts in ~/.fonts05:03
socommHaha, internet is broken.05:03
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autok ill try that now05:04
socommBad internet!05:04
mark_socomm -- no ... it might smack back ...05:04
Banditvery bad05:04
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schweebI forget how the gnome fonts and x fonts are related... I've always used x-ttcidfont-conf and they've always showed up fine in both05:05
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Banditdamm 280 updates05:06
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BROKEN_LADDERwoah..easytag has gotten way better.05:07
mancowhere can I find a list of current Hoary repositories?05:07
skel_homeFYI, don't waste your time witn ubuntu-amd64.. its broken05:07
zenroxBandit,  you should do that every day05:07
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BROKEN_LADDERhave you checked ubuntu.org?05:07
jesuelubuntu-amd64 isnt broken ;p05:07
Banditlol hmm like the unstable to be as stable as possible05:07
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zenroxBandit,  may05:07
BROKEN_LADDERor tried apt-get upgrade05:08
mancois there one on the wiki?05:08
mancoI didn't know for sure and thought you guys would have a better idea05:08
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cugaHey guys05:09
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jesuelmanco, what software are you looking for?05:09
cbgbhow can i still an ATI drivers to ubuntu05:09
jesuelthere are bunches of repositories05:10
mebaran151jeseul, yeah05:10
mebaran151I am running AMD6405:10
mebaran151beautiful rig05:10
mebaran151it was a little choppy at first05:10
jesuelsame meb05:10
mebaran151but now it is ok05:10
jesuelnot choppy at all here05:10
mebaran151when I jumped on the boat05:10
cugaGot a question about dvd support in hoary, i just got a new dvd burner, put her in and its recognised in /media/cdrecorder, i can read cds fine but apps like mplayer freeze up when trying to play dvds, just get black screens, something else im supposed to do? using stock kernel05:10
mebaran151gnome wouldnt unpkg05:10
mebaran151evolution kept throwing floating point exceptions05:10
mancoltris, and some other games05:10
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mebaran151cuga, I am fine here05:11
mebaran151cdrecorder is what it is called05:11
mark_libdvdcss2 -- that's my guess ...05:11
mebaran151what kind of dvd's05:11
mebaran151you might libdvdcss205:11
mancoI'm also getting a bad repo. address message when I do try to apt-get update05:11
mebaran151but I think that is prebundled in mplayer05:11
mark_manco - me too05:12
cugamebaran151, yeah same here, cdrecorder is what it shows as, but when i try and play the dvd i get just a black screen and have to kill the process05:12
mebaran151sounds like a bad mplayer05:12
mebaran151try totem05:12
cugatotem crashes too05:12
mebaran151with libdvdcss205:12
jesuelcuga, You are missing libdvdcss205:12
mebaran151any DVD05:12
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cugasec i'll add libdvdcss205:12
mancojust to but into you guys conversation, I think there's something wrong with the gstreamer libs05:13
mebaran151any know how good the Blackberrgy 7100t goes with Evolution05:13
mebaran151I would like to buy it05:13
mebaran151and sync it with my appts and contacts05:13
MyNameIsChrisI downloaded xine and libdvdcss from apt but the audio quality is painful05:13
cuga7100t is pimp, i want one, was looking at em this afternoon05:13
mancoif you install libxine that might fix your prob05:13
mancothat fixed mine05:13
mancoquality sucks though05:13
mebaran151I like them05:14
mebaran151but I really want to sync with evolution05:14
mebaran151it syncs with outlook05:14
mebaran151but evolution and outlook might not work equally05:14
mebaran151and they are not palms05:14
jesuelmebaran151, just buy it at circuit city, if it dont work. Return it easily ;p05:15
zenroxor get a linux one05:16
zenroxthare is a linux os one05:16
schweebyou're talking about the Zaurus05:16
zenroxand you can compile any program for the zaurus that you run on your full blowen linux system05:17
schweebyou'll want to do some reading on Evo's site about the blackberry...05:17
cugahrmm, what apt source has libdvdcss2? i've tryed hoarys univers and debians unstable.. do i have to grab one off apt-get.org?05:17
schweebnot /any/ program05:17
schweebbut a good portion of them05:17
MyNameIsChrisIs it possible to set up a 5.1 channel speaker configuration in UBuntu05:18
zenroxand the reast can probly be converted easly enuf05:18
schweebdepends really05:18
mancodvdcss is not on a repo go to google and get on their site to get it05:18
zenroxmanco,  it is just  marelette05:18
schweebzenrox: look in the debian bug database, and look at all the platform specific bugs, and you'll understand, heh05:19
zenroxjust not today05:19
cugaThat got it, Thanks alot guys05:19
cugaMplayer opened the cd05:19
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wjesusaxlNeed help... I have an atheros wireless card, and the network interfaces don't work05:22
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wjesusaxldo you know how to edit /etc/network/interfaces properly?05:22
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wjesusaxlhelp me out!!!!05:24
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cbgbmy monitor is blurring is that a problrm with the video card?05:24
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wjesusaxlcan anybody help me?05:27
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jeff_every time i load a newsgroup with pan, it just stalls05:32
jeff_and dosent display any threads :(05:33
crimsunI've not experienced such symptoms05:33
crimsundoes it work with mozilla's nntp client?05:33
jeff_it "used" to work05:34
jeff_let me check05:34
jeff_when i run agent with wine it works properly05:34
jeff_where is the mozilla nntp05:35
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crimsunjeff_: if it's installed, under the Window menu05:36
crimsunjeff_: or in the bottom left icon area05:37
hypheni've got a problem with my hard drive, during the partitioning of my hd when installing ubuntu i think i screwed up the partition table05:37
hyphenand now its recognized as not having a file system or partition05:37
hyphen[external hd]  anyone know how i can recover my files?05:37
jeff_nah crimsun i dont have it05:38
BronchoHi Im trying to login to cups but its asking for root password, should I setup a root or can I login to this another way?05:38
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nomasteryodajust sec05:41
Bronchok thank you05:41
nomasteryodathe command is the same on suse ... i think05:41
Bronchoto do what make root?05:42
jeff_does anyone know where i can get a copy of win4lin05:42
hypheni need help with my hd :(  if i lose that stuff i'm dead!!05:42
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nomasteryodajeff_, www.win4lin.com05:43
mdzBroncho: you are trying to login to the cups web interface?05:43
nomasteryodagoing price is very low05:43
Bronchoyes mdz05:43
mdzBroncho: if so, use gnome-cups-manager instead05:43
mdzcomputer->system administration->printing on warty05:43
mdzsimpler and doesn't require root of any kind05:43
schweebit says "Administrative tasks have been disabled for security reasons. Please use Menu System > Administration > Printing." in big red letters across the top05:44
stuNNedhi all, my ssh sessions keep timing out after only a few minutes of inactivity, any ideas why?05:44
Bronchothank you so much05:44
mdzschweeb: in warty as well?  I wasn't sure whether we fixed that before or after the warty release05:44
schweebmdz: dunno, haven't run warty in a while. good point.05:44
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stuNNedssh server is ubuntu, ssh client is ubuntu05:45
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mdzstuNNed: and what's in between?05:45
schweebsome routers don't have good connection tracking (including the one I'm using right now)05:45
stuNNedmdz: cheap home router, but a gentoo box on the same server network this doesn't happen05:46
asubediwhen is the mouse pointer thing going to be fixed in hoary?05:47
schweebasubedi: elaborate some05:47
mdzstuNNed: it is very unlikely that the ubuntu systems are the source of the problem05:47
mdzstuNNed: it may be that gentoo enables ssh keepalives by default or osmething05:47
stuNNedmdz: can i do ssh keepalives with ubuntu's ssh server?05:48
mdzstuNNed: yes, see the ssh_config man page05:48
asubedischweeb: the current mouse pointer is not as nice as the one in warty05:48
stuNNedmdz: aha, so it's ssh_config and not sshd_config?05:48
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schweebmy sshd_config has KeepAlive yes on05:49
schweebby default05:49
Plukif im not mistaken ubuntu uses the jimmac cursor theme: http://www.gnomelook.org/content/show.php?content=655005:49
stuNNedschweeb: weird then, would i set that in ssh_config as well?05:49
Plukso you can fix it yourself if you want05:50
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mdzstuNNed: sshd_config is the server configuration, ssh_config is for the client05:50
klaxianhi guys05:50
klaxianhas anyone tried to use VNC 4 via X module with Hoary?05:50
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wjesusaxldoes anyone know about setting up atheros wireless card_05:51
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jordanauyeah what card?05:51
Plukwjesusaxl, install the linux restrcted modules05:51
jordanauatheros i see, next time i will read better05:51
Plukthey have te madwifi driver included05:52
stuNNedmdz: if you have a lan behing a firewall would you run a firewall on each individual machine as well if it's a small network?05:52
wjesusaxlIt's all set up..05:52
wjesusaxlI have some problems05:52
mdzwjesusaxl: I use such a card; it works out of the box on Ubuntu05:52
wjesusaxlthat's where my problem is..05:53
wjesusaxlit works on dhcp mode..05:53
klaxiandoes anyone know why my VNC 4 Viewed would hang during connection to a Hoary box using the vnc X module (VNC4)?05:53
cugawow, playing dvd bringing cpu to 60%, that normal?05:53
wjesusaxlwireless_mode managed05:53
wjesusaxlwireless_channel 605:53
wjesusaxlwireless_essid RED05:53
wjesusaxldo I have to add any other line_05:53
stuNNedmdz: maybe it's because the cheap router has a firewall built in and i'm using iptables as well on the ubuntu box behind that router?05:54
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Plukwjesusaxl, http://nopaste.biz/?1213 is how my /etc/network/interfaces looks like with 128bits wep05:55
Brunellushi out there.  I've got a couple of dual-boot questions.05:55
klaxianno one has any experience with VNC 4 and Hoary? :(05:55
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Plukwjesusaxl,  the hwaddress entries there are just for my situation05:55
BrunellusI have an HP desktop PC, and I'd like to make it a dual-boot winXP/ubuntu machine05:56
crimsunklaxian: I just use vino with tightvnc viewer05:56
wjesusaxlwhat is hwaddress ether... your AP's MAC???05:56
Brunelluspresently, the hard drive has two partitions:  C, where windows lives05:56
Plukno my nic mac05:56
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Brunellusand D, which is the "hp-recover" partition05:56
schweebasubedi: hrm, I never even noticed till now that the cursor theme was missing, heh05:56
klaxiancrimsun: what's vino?  can it remote desktop :0?05:56
Plukits just for me to change my mac address you dont need that entry05:56
helloyoi've just discovered that its my RAM causing all my segfaults, is there a way of determning what RAM i can put in this computer in ubuntu>05:57
wjesusaxlwhat about05:57
wjesusaxlthe channel?05:57
wjesusaxldoes it matter?05:57
Brunelluscould I just create an ubuntu partition and a linux swap, and then will it run?05:57
Plukchannel is set by the AP05:57
Plukso its auto detected05:57
neighborleewhere is synaptic in hoary ? ;005:57
wjesusaxlI installed my nic driver by ndiswrapping05:58
neighborleeno matter..ill just apt-get the thing lol05:58
wjesusaxlit'd be good enought. wouln't it?05:58
Plukndiswrapper is kinda an overkill cuz atheros is native supported :)05:58
helloyohow do i check that specs of the RAM i have in my computer?05:58
MacPlusG3helloyo: as in how much you have, how much is free etc? 'free -m'05:59
MacPlusG3helloyo: or the system monitor application05:59
helloyoMacPlusG3, what type of ram, speed, etc05:59
wjesusaxlI'll check.. I'll be back rigth quick06:00
MacPlusG3helloyo: type, speed etc is a bit harder to get. generally motherboard specific06:00
crimsunklaxian: Vino _is_ the remote desktop :-)06:00
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helloyoMacPlusG3, is there a way to get my motherboard name?06:00
klaxiancrimsun: ah yes I'm looking at it now...how can I start it on his machine remotely?06:00
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farruinnhelloyo: maybe the device manager or whatever it's called06:01
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farruinnklaxian: if he has ubuntu it's "started", he just needs to change his "Remote Desktop" preferences06:01
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klaxianah, can I do that for him remotely?06:02
MacPlusG3helloyo: have a look it /sys.. you may get some info... but that's the closest you're going to get06:02
Coilyquick networking question: should disabling ssid broadcasting disable computers from connecting to the network wirelessly?06:02
klaxianfarruinn: is there any way to do it via SSH remotely?06:03
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wjesusaxlit didn't work .. I pinged my gateway06:04
wjesusaxlFrom icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unreachable06:04
wjesusaxlThat's what I got :(06:05
farruinnklaxian: yeah, I was just looking - in his .gconf/desktop/gnome/remote_access/%gconf.xml you can change the settings06:05
Plukyour using ndiswrapper so i guess your interfase isnt ath0 but wlan006:05
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wjesusaxlit is ath006:05
stuNNedyou guys ever heard  of ipkungfu?06:06
Plukifup ath006:06
wjesusaxlDHCPDISCOVER on ath0 to port 67 interval 706:06
Pluklet it run06:06
Plukmine takes 3-4 of those steps06:07
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klaxianfarruinn: ok i will try06:07
LevanderIs there a GUI ftp client in the ubuntu repositories?  I really need one for what I'm trying to do right now.06:08
Plukwjesusaxl, if it doesnt give a lease paste your /etc/network/interfaces here: http://nopaste.biz/06:08
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PlukLevander, gftp06:08
farruinnklaxian: I can msg you what I have in mine if you need06:08
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LevanderPluk: thanks, trying it now06:09
klaxianfarruinn: it's ok, i'm having him set it in the GUI...i will try it in a sec after I restart gdm06:09
farruinnLevander: nautilus is supposed to be able to do it as well (file>connect to server)06:09
farruinnklaxian: that's probably the easiest way06:09
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wjesusaxlDHCPOFFER from
wjesusaxlDHCPREQUEST on ath0 to port 6706:11
wjesusaxlDHCPACK from
wjesusaxlbound to -- renewal in 506163 seconds.06:11
wjesusaxlit looks as though the gateway is answering somehow06:11
klaxianfarruinn: it still seems to hang and not let me in06:11
LevanderPluk: when I did a --simulate install on gftp, i got an error coming up saying it wouldn't install gftp-text06:11
Plukwell at least you get an ip wjesusaxl  :)06:11
Levanderu installed gftp without problem?06:11
PlukLevander, your using hoary?06:11
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LevanderPluk: no, using warty06:12
farruinnklaxian: are you both using the same version of ubuntu?06:12
wjesusaxlauto ath006:12
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wjesusaxliface ath0 inet dhcp06:12
wjesusaxl   wireless_essid RED206:12
Plukyou still cant ping the gateway wjesusaxl ?06:12
farruinnklaxian: maybe the vnc server version he has isn't compatible with the version of your vncviewer06:12
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Plukit must be a little bug Levander will probably be fixed in a day06:12
billytwowillywhat's the name of the program that will make rpms and debs from tar.gz files?06:13
wjesusaxlauto ath006:13
wjesusaxliface ath0 inet dhcp06:13
wjesusaxl   wireless_essid RED206:13
jeff_What is the location of the directory of C header files that match my running kernel?06:13
mdzbillytwowilly: it's called "bad news" :-)06:13
mdzbillytwowilly: but I think you mean checkinstall06:13
billytwowillyyay, thanks.06:14
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mdzjeff_: /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build/include06:14
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wjesusaxlare my interfaces ok?06:14
Plukyeah they are wjesusaxl06:14
bryanjeff, you running ubuntu in vmware?06:14
wjesusaxlI think there's something missing06:15
BROKEN_LADDERwhen people try to download .m4a or .ogg files from my site, they are displayed as text instead of being downloaded.  is that something that can be partly due to settings in apache that specify header info?06:15
Plukat least if your AP doesnt have any security06:15
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wjesusaxlnot at all06:15
Levandernarrowed the gftp install problem down a little, the problem seems to be an error message that say "gftp-text: Depends gftp-common (= 2.0.17-6) but 2.0.17-6ubuntu0.2 is to be installed" - seems like it's just confused about the ubuntu string being in the version number06:15
mdzBROKEN_LADDER: yes.  clearly you aren't running Ubuntu on your server ;-)06:15
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Plukwjesusaxl, but you still cant ping
wjesusaxllet me try... becauseI need to ifdown eth006:16
error_29I just upgraded to hoary, and so far the weirdest effect has been on gnome terminal and xterm -- if I resize the window by dragging the corner, a little pop-up window appears displaying the window size coordinates.  This is really annoying. Anyone know how I can turn that behavior off?06:16
wjesusaxli' brb06:16
bryanBROKEN_LADDER, AddType application/ogg     ogg06:16
Levanderfuck, i was so close to getting a static mirror of my blog online!06:16
BROKEN_LADDERhow do i add a type to my apache config?06:17
bryani think you can put it in a .htaccess file06:18
wjesusaxlI can't ping my gatewat06:18
wjesusaxlI can't ping my gateway06:18
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Plukwjesusaxl, paste your interfaces file on http://nopaste.biz/06:18
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helio7hey all: helping a brand new to linux friend (i'm relatively new myself) and he lost the gdm login screen, it's just black and he has to type everything "blind" any ideas of what that could be?06:19
tizenhelio7: if he restarts X its still blank?06:20
helio7tizen: restarting X via alt+cntrl+backspace?06:20
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Plukwjesusaxl, after bringing eth0 down did you bring ath0 down and up again?06:21
Plukdunno if thats necesary though06:21
jeff_ya bryan06:21
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wjesusaxlyeath both of them are down06:21
tizenhelio7: or get into a console login and dpkg-reconfigure gdm06:22
jeff_its asking me for the C header files06:22
wjesusaxland just ath0 goes up06:22
Plukcould you post: ifconfig ath0 on http://nopaste.biz/06:22
helio7tizen: I just got him to run dpkg --configure -a06:23
error_29hello again.  i lost my connection right after asking a question about pop-ups when resizing gnome-terminal-- I don't suppose anybody replied to that?06:23
srianybody usin ghoary with a thinkpad t42p?06:23
Pluki use it here on a t42 non p06:23
srihoary not ghoary :)06:23
sriPluk: do you have the FireGL ati card in yours?06:23
farruinnat least it's not gory...06:23
Pluknope 960006:23
sriI'm trying to set up my T42p so that it can do both internal and external monitors06:24
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Plukyou have the fglrx driver installed?06:24
srithe thing is I'd like to have both laptop mode and clone mode :-)06:24
bryanjeff: apt-get install linux-headers-YOUR.KERNEL.HERE06:24
stuNNedmdz: i think it's something screwy in my keepalive tcp settings and firewall, thanks06:24
sriPluk: I do.06:24
jeff_do i have to do it bryan06:25
bryanif you want to install vmwaretools or whatever it is06:25
bryanyou don't *have* to06:25
jeff_so where do i tell it06:26
jeff_What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running06:26
jeff_kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] 06:26
Pluksri, havent tried that myself, only with the tvout06:26
sriPluk: yeah, I don't see one wher eyou can switch to different modes06:26
sriIf I wna to use my laptop for a presentation it needs to show up on both screens06:26
sriI'll ask in fdo06:27
wjesusaxlmy Ap works with 2.4Ghz...06:27
bryanyou have to install them first06:27
Plukyou tried fglrxconfig?06:27
bryanor else you don't have them06:27
bryanthey're not installed out of the box06:27
Plukfglrxconfig has nice options with dualscreen06:27
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Plukwjesusaxl, i dont know anymore, you get an ip so its weird you cant ping the gateway06:28
wjesusaxlyeah.. I know...06:28
wjesusaxlyou negotiate through the DHCP an IP06:29
bradhi, when can i download the 5.04 release???06:29
crimsunbrad: in april :-)06:29
bradi hear wed?06:29
jeff_bryan how do i install th em06:29
crimsunbrad: wednesday is the _preview_ release.06:29
bryanjeff: apt-get install linux-headers-YOUR.KERNEL.HERE06:29
bradis that going to be real buggy?06:30
TWMpreview release? cool...06:30
jeff_and how do i get the value for YOUR KERNEL HERE06:30
Plukwjesusaxl, comment auto eth0 to #auto eth0 and restart06:30
sriPluk: I'm trying it now.06:30
Plukmaybe that will fix it?06:30
sriPluk: I want to turn off some stuff because I want suspend to work.06:30
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rattboiI have a question.06:30
Pluksri i thonk your out of luck then, fglrx and acpi dont work06:30
bradi mean would you reccomend me downloading it or should i wait for 5.20?06:30
sriPluk: well I think it does, you just can't use the 3D acceleration06:30
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rattboiI installed ubuntu, then XP, and XP overwrote MBR, so how do I get grub back?06:31
crimsun20? what month does 20 correspond to? ;-)06:31
Plukah yeah that possible too06:31
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Pluki just use radeon driver so i can suspend06:31
stubIs there  a way to add items to the main Gnome menu using the GUI? I could have sworn I have done if before but I can't remember what to click where.06:31
sriPluk: I don't need 3D as it's a business laptop06:31
rattboistub, it was there,  but it's removed06:31
sriPluk: well I might need it if I'm going on travel..but..06:31
rattboibecause of freedesktop standard06:32
stubrattboi: Ta.06:32
farruinnrattboi: I *think* you could try booting from the install cd, doing the manual partiton, setting / to "keep data"06:32
farruinnrattboi: it probably won't work, but that's what I would try06:32
Pluksri, you could indeed make a working fglrx config and then comment out glx and perhaps dri06:32
rattboihow about with a live cd?06:32
bryanjeff: uname -a06:32
sriPluk: yeah thats what I did.06:32
sriPluk: it's kind of hard to get the info because it's not centralized..06:33
Plukindeed :)06:33
bryanshould give you somethign like "Linux ubuntu 2.6.10-4-686 #1 Wed Mar 2 06:19:32 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux"06:33
sriPluk: can I just copy XF86Config-4 to xorg.conf?06:33
sriPluk: I'd bug daniels but he's not around atm06:33
Plukyeah but i thought you had to change the keyboard driver from keyboard to Keyboard06:33
Plukor vice versa06:33
sriOh..let me do that.06:34
davebgimp_Hi there, I have a recent install of ubuntu. New to using it. Everything seemed fine till I ran an update from the commnad line. Now when GNOME starts, the signal to my monitor dies. I have to enter the user and password blind. Once doing this, GNOME boots. Is there a way I can fix this?06:34
helio7tizen: davebgimp_ is the one I was just asking about a moment ago (=06:35
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bradhey, i thought 5.20 was going to be teh real hoary release06:35
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eb0xHow do I install GLIB?06:35
sriokay, lets see what happens06:35
Plukgood luck :)06:35
srithanks gonna need it methinks06:35
jeff_how do i remove a package06:36
bradcrimsum: do you reccomend the preview release?06:36
bryanapt-get remove packagename06:36
Plukor apt-get remove --purge packagename if you want to remove config files also06:37
eb0xDo you know how to install zlib?06:37
TWMI can't access the internet from my linux box (parents use aol on win xp :( ) - is it possible to download the apt-get packages i need seperately?06:37
Plukeb0x, apt-cache search zlib gives a few options06:38
jeff_can i flood the chan? i get all knda shit when i run06:38
jeff_sudo apt-get install linux-headers-
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Plukjeff_, http://nopaste.biz/06:38
bryanor http://pastebin.com/06:38
crypticreignjust upgraded to hoary, boots to Saving VESA state, then freezes06:39
crypticreignthis is a laptop06:39
SiRrUsjeff_ you trying to install a new kernel?06:40
Plukweird dependency06:40
jeff_no kernal .c headers06:40
bradcrypticreign: are you on 5.04?06:40
crypticreignbrad: yes06:40
eb0xeb0x@ubuntu:~ $ apt-cache search zlib06:41
eb0xlibmng1 - Multiple-image Network Graphics library06:41
eb0xzlib1g - compression library - runtime06:41
bradcrypticreign: i thought we had to wait to tomorrow to download it06:41
Plukjeff_, it depends on _one_ of these packages but it cant choose itself06:41
SiRrUs5.04 is out in April06:41
eb0xE: Couldn't find package zliblg06:41
eb0xroot@ubuntu:/home/eb0x #06:41
bradcrypticreign: how is it?06:41
Plukeb0x, zlib1g not zliblg06:41
bryanjeff, try kernel-headers instead of linux-headers06:41
eb0xoh woops06:41
crypticreignbrad: well, considering i cant noot, i dont know06:41
jeff_no such package06:42
SiRrUsbrad hoary runs very well06:42
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Plukjeff_, install one of these packages first: i should install libsdl1.2debian-alsa or libsdl1.2debian-esd06:42
Plukand then install the headers06:42
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bradgHey everyone.  I was wondering if the final version of hoary would use 2.6.11.  Does anyone know?06:42
bradsirrus: did you do mysteryhunt?06:43
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kingsleyIs there a module, core file or something that can diagnose why a kernel crashes?06:43
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bradsirrus: ok, thougth so06:43
bradsirrus: i have to wait till tomorrow to download the ISO right?06:43
bradcrypticreign: thats too bad06:43
crypticreignLaptop - just upgraded to hoary, boots to Saving VESA state, then freezes  anyone know?06:44
SiRrUssorry caps06:44
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eb0xconfigure: error: zlib needed06:44
eb0xeb0x@ubuntu:~/xine-lib-1.0 $06:44
jeff_The following packages will be REMOVED:06:44
jeff_  gnomemeeting gstreamer0.8-sdl libopenal0 libsdl-image1.2 libsdl-mixer1.206:44
jeff_  libsdl-net1.2 libsdl-sound1.2 libsdl1.2debian libsmpeg0 rss-glx tecnoballz06:44
jeff_  ubuntu-desktop06:44
SiRrUshoary has been out for a couple of months06:44
eb0x-_- it says its all in there :/06:44
SiRrUsin testing stages06:44
jeff_if i do that it will fuck up my desktop06:45
Plukwell just sound actually06:45
bradsirrus: right, you're not on the preview release then, right?06:45
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eb0xIf it says all of that stuff is already installed, how do I get this error fixed?06:45
jeff_i dont know what to do06:45
eb0xconfigure: error: zlib needed06:45
eb0xeb0x@ubuntu:~/xine-lib-1.0 $06:45
bradsirrus: that comes out wednesday06:45
SiRrUsbrad for about 2 months now06:45
Plukjeff_, you have that also with libsdl1.2debian-esd?06:45
bradsirrus: right i understand that hoary has been testing for a while, what exactly is the preview release 5.04 then?06:46
bradsirrus: whats the deal?06:46
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SiRrUsbrad have you read the channel topic06:47
bradsirrus: yes, are you saying that i'm not asking for support?06:48
bryanbrad: Array 6 is released! http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/hoary/array-6/06:48
Plukjeff_, i guess there are some problems now with it, will prolly get fixed tomorrow06:48
crypticreignyeah, thats what i installed array 606:49
Kennyjb402help I tried to log in, but ubuntu wont let me....it says that it cant read /home/***/ .ICEauthority, I think I might of throw that file away by mistake, what can I do to get back in my system?06:49
bradbryan: what's array6?  is that 5.04?06:49
SiRrUsbrad read the topic cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/hoary/array-606:49
jeff_can i install linux headers without libsdl06:49
Plukprolly not06:50
bradgbrad, There will be a big, official preview release tomorrow.  Then, April 6th will be the final release.06:50
bryanmy horay updater just popped up with 4 new updates06:50
bryanamong them 'ubuntu-base' and 'ubuntu-desktop'06:51
bradcool, thanks guys!  that06:51
brad's all i wanted to know06:51
zenroxKennyjb402,  log in tharu a terminal and del that file06:53
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Kennyjb402what file?06:53
zenroxthen relogin tharu gui06:53
Kennyjb402ok thnx06:53
zenroxout of your home die06:53
zenroxerr /home/user06:53
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farruinnKennyjb402: don't run gui apps with sudo, use gksudo06:54
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=== Topic for #ubuntu: Ubuntu Help | Support Information: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/ | Array 6 is released! http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/hoary/array-6/ | Kubuntu test images available: http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2005-March/000023.html
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=== #ubuntu [freenode-info] why register and identify? your IRC nick is how people know you. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
(zenrox/#ubuntu) to fast farruinn06:54
jeff_farruinn, so i shuold do gksudo synaptic insted of sudo synaptic06:55
zenroxhe quit before you said that06:55
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farruinnzenrox: oh =) I have /ignore * QUITS otherwise it's too freaking loud in here06:55
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zenroxfarruinn,  i dont mind i can keeep up06:55
farruinnjeff_: yeah, that's what the launcher in the menu is iirc06:55
farruinnwtf, I just ran ./configure on something and this was one of the lines: checking for life_signs in -lKenny... no06:56
farruinn  Oh my god, they killed Kenny!  You bastards!06:56
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zenroxfarruinn,  do that agine06:58
zenroxfor Kennyjb40206:58
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zenroxKennyjb402,  that fix it06:58
Kennyjb402zenrox: what command would I use to del a file?06:58
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Kennyjb402not yet06:58
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zenroxKennyjb402,  rm .ICEauthority06:59
Kennyjb402thnx again :)06:59
Kennyjb402brb again06:59
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bryanwhat's that?07:01
bryanwindow manager?07:02
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maximausyup, it's an easy compile to pass the time. LOL07:02
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robo2xhas anyone had any luck configuring a wacom tablet under warty? i tried following the online guide, but adding evdev to blacklist causes gdm to not start07:03
Kennyjb402zenrox thanks that did the trick07:03
BiteMeBillWhat the command to see if your running Warty or Hoary?07:04
helio7uhhh where did my XF86Config file go? did a patch relocate it?  everythings working fine, just trying to help a friend and it's suddenly not there /etc/X11/XFConfig07:04
BiteMeBillhelio7: XF86Config07:04
helio7yeah that's what I meant ty type07:04
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echostormhey all.07:05
helio7bryan: why the 4 ending? is that new?07:05
helio7either I'm going loco or XF86Config didn't use to end in "4"07:06
echostormfirst time linux user (actually 2nd tried debian yesterday) i was curious of 2 things... one my screensize is like uber small ...any way to set it to 800x600? oh and also, how can i find out what kernal i have?>07:06
bryanhow do you use 800x60007:06
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jeff_does anyone have a VMWare Key?07:07
dead|shellechostorm, have you used the termina at all07:07
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bryannothing less07:07
HrdwrBoBhelio7: if you updated to hoary it's xorg.conf07:07
dead|shellthats what i use bryan07:07
echostormI was able to install software and configure a few things in debian yet, i have the hang of the terminal07:07
echostormyesterday i mean (yet)07:08
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da_bon_bonhi all07:08
Plukhi da_bon_bon07:08
helio7HrdwrBoB: this box is still on Warty, I was sure it used to be called XF86Config without the -4 on the end but it doesn't matter I guess07:08
dead|shellechostorm, scroll down until you see monitor config stuff http://www.angelfire.com/empire/ofburntsouls/x.html07:09
Plukhelio7, im pretty sure its XF86Config-407:09
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Plukalways have been on debian systems07:09
Plukwell maybe not in the really old days07:09
bryanhelio7:  it's because warty uses XF86 4.whatever07:09
helio7Pluk: yeah that's what it's showing as; I musta got confused; thanks07:09
bryani think it jumped right from 3.6 to 4.x07:10
echostormthanx deadshell. wow its weird firefox delays like that when looking for a webpage. (never did with windows or the other dist)07:10
bryani find firefox laggy too, compared to ff on windows07:10
Plukechostorm, its possibly looking for ipv607:11
Plukin the addressbar type about:config07:11
Plukthen filter ipv607:11
Pluket that to true07:12
dead|shellechostorm, as far as your kernel info try the command uname07:12
bryanuname -a07:12
dead|shellthanks bryan07:12
farruinnwho was looking for an os X dock look-alike last night?07:12
bryani wasn't, but you can link me if you know of one07:13
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echostorm2.6.8.1-3-386 #1 lol ok i was just making sure it was 2.6 to make my life easier with my cdwriter, when i get to testing that out07:13
echostormok  wow thanx for the help guys :)07:14
bryani was so happy when my dvd writer worked without having to mess around with crap07:14
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echostormwow that ipv fix worked like magic07:16
klashnivfarruinn: tell us more about the OS X dock07:16
dazedi get this wierd ass error when runnin konqueror07:17
farruinnklashniv: I just built engage from enlightenment cvs and it looks very promising07:17
dazedcan anyone help?07:17
klashnivi wonder why ipv6 was added to ff anyway, is it in use alot now?07:17
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farruinnklashniv: unfortunately I don't think it's going to work properly until I install e1707:17
echostormi have said wow too much... guess im still dazed about everything... going to take awile to understand this os07:18
klashnivfarruinn: will google around and see what I can dig up07:18
Plukenjoy echostorm :)07:18
farruinnklashniv: www.enlightenment.org07:18
dead|shellheres a screen shot with a mac like dock http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=3/6700172123.png&s=x207:18
dazedwhat does dcopserver mean?07:18
bryanechostorm:  if you can find "Learning Debian GNU Linux" it's a good start07:19
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MacPlusG3echostorm: if you're wanting 800x600 for bigger fonts, try increasing the minimum font sizes instead. Unlike windows, it actually works here (well, a lot better at least)07:19
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bryanit's an OReilly book, a little outdated because it's from 99, but still gives you a good reference07:20
MacPlusG3echostorm: you'll find that things look a lot nicer with bigger fonts instead of lower resolutions07:20
klashnivfarruinn: thanks, google will also turn up other peoples' experiences :)07:20
samushkai installed warty, went to my apt-get sources.list, and changed the words warty to hoary, and performed a dist-upgrade. problem is, now when i login into GNOME, i dont have my 1600x1200 resolution anymore, i think that maybe its still useing XFREE ?07:20
dead|shellechostorm, on that site i showed you i have instructions for a new kernel as well07:20
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dead|shellsamushka, try cat /etc/X11/XF86Config-407:22
samushkahow can i switch to XORG ?07:22
dead|shellsee if thats the file and edit it samushka07:22
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dead|shellcan it be apt'ed07:22
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samushkai think its already isntalled, in other words, how can i uninstall XFREE and use XORG instead07:23
samushka(btw, XF86Config-4 file has the 1600x1200 mode enabled, so thats odd..)07:23
Pluksamushka, apt-get remove  xserver-xfree8607:23
Plukand have xserver-xorg installed07:24
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mebaran151can someone direct me to the Java wiki07:24
mebaran151I want to develop Java apps in 64 bits07:24
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mebaran151should webapplets work in 64 bits07:24
haydenhow can i tell if my dialup modem works (seeing that i havent got a dialup connection where i am)07:25
bryancall a friend07:25
bryan(with the modem)07:26
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maximaushayden, you can at least see if linux recognizes the modem with "sudo pppconfig"07:26
haydenok thats more like it07:26
farruinnwow.... e17 is awesome...07:26
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haydenfarruinn, have u got it running?07:27
farruinnhayden: yeah, just built it from cvs07:27
farruinnI was building/installing all the necessary libs this afternoon07:27
blizahwhats a good bittorrent client to use in linxu?07:27
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blizahthe bittornado i got through synaptic is just ok07:27
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midgewais there anyone there who knows like... everything there is to know about installing ubuntu?07:28
maximausblizah, I use Azureus, but it's quite heavy and needs Java. Nice client though.07:28
zu22how can i get ubuntu to use Chinese language for everything? (web fonts, system fonts, console, etc...)07:28
zu22i looked in languages but see no chinese option :(07:28
blizahyea i like azureus, would like one about like that but not so resource hungry07:29
bryanthere's ABC, but doesn't look like it'07:30
bryans still being maintained07:30
midgewais there anyone there who knows like... everything there is to know about installing ubuntu?07:30
midgewaand lives in sydney07:30
blizahi wish i could help zu07:30
blizahbryan ill go look07:30
jbamidgewa, spit the question out07:31
blizahah abc is fine07:31
blizahdoes it support multiple downloads?07:31
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dazedhow do i check if my dcopserver is running07:32
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dazedKonqueror keeps givin me an error about that07:32
Plukdazed,  ps -aux |grep dcoperver ?07:33
midgewawell.. i have a fkn old pc and i wanna install ubuntu onto it.. i have never installed linux and yeah07:34
midgewai burnt it to a cd and set the BIOS to boot from the cd07:34
midgewabut it just booted 9807:34
midgewadid i burn it wrong?07:34
bryanhow did you burn it?07:34
midgewawell the download came in a rar file, so i unpacked that07:35
midgewaand burnt the folder to a cd07:35
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midgewathats how my mate did it for windows and that worked :S07:35
mebaran151Java anyone07:35
bryanit didn't come as a iso?07:35
midgewaerrr... no07:35
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midgewait came as "warty-release-intall-i386.rar07:36
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Plukmust be windows xp in automagic rename mode07:37
blizahsays abc is still in linux beta?07:37
midgewathen i unpacked that... and it was just a folder with heaps of stuff in it07:37
blizahbeta work alright?07:37
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midgewaso am i burning it wrong?07:37
bryanjust an idea07:37
midgewado i need to download a different file/07:37
dazedsorry plek got kicked off: but it returned a bunch of numbers for root and a bunch of numbers for my user name07:37
_4strOi think midgewa is on a hidden reconnized file extension07:37
Plukmidgewa, rename the file to whatever.iso then burn it as an image07:37
midgewaumm ok07:38
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midgewaill try that pluk07:38
bryanmaybe you've got 'hide known file extensions" turned on if you're using XP07:38
sihenhello all07:38
midgewaso i then just try to boot off the CD?07:38
bryanand you installed winrar and set to to handle iso files07:38
sihencan anyone possible tell me where i can get some nice x themes from for ubuntu07:38
Pluksihen, check http://www.gnomelook.org/07:39
bryansihen:   http://gnome-look.org/07:39
Kennyjb402sihen: did you try www.gnome-look.org?07:39
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DazeD||laptoppluk im still gettin that error07:39
DazeD||laptopplease cehck dcopserver program is running07:40
midgewaok im burning it again now, will check back when i try it07:40
Plukyou can check if its running with ps -aux |grep dcopserver07:40
DazeD||laptopi did07:40
Plukbut i really dont know anything about dcopserver though07:40
DazeD||laptophow do i tell if its running07:40
sihengoing to take a look now07:41
sihenthanks guys07:41
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midgewait booted windows 98 again07:45
midgewadidnt even come up with an option for something else07:45
midgewacan i install it inside 98?07:45
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ellsdoes anyone know of a good tool or method to combine vob files to a dvd to watch on my home player07:49
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midgewanoone helping?08:02
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blizahwill i be able to install a rpm file on ubuntu   (its bittorent 4.0.008:03
delltonyanyone here have a few mins to hell me setup proftpd ?08:03
jeff_hey guys how do i make a .iso file from a cd rom08:04
bryanalien file.rpm08:04
bryanit'll make a .deb file08:04
topylijeff_: mkisofs?08:05
delltonydd if=/dev/hdc of=mycd.iso  should do it08:05
bryanthen dpkg -i file.deb08:05
blizahah ok08:05
topylioh yeah, dd :)08:06
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delltonythe double dds are nice ;)08:07
viper12evening all.  anyone else notice that trash applet doesn't always 'empty' even though it "IS" empty?08:07
delltonyman this stinks i can't figure proftpd out for jack is there something for ftp server that foo's like me can figure out really fast08:07
blizahso to install BitTorrent-4.0.0-1.noarch.rpm   id do "sudo apt-get BitTorrent-4.0.0-1.noarch.rpm"08:08
jeff_blizah you might want to use azerus's client08:08
blizahi would but a little to resource hungry08:09
bryanjust download the rpm from bittorrent.com08:09
blizahused it in windows...08:09
blizahi like it a lot though08:09
viper12you also might want to stay away from 'rpms' in a deb install.08:09
bryanazureus is overkill08:09
blizahoh yea ima change it into a deb file...08:09
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whiprushmako: hey what would be the best way to create a LoCo team for the US. I don't see a parent one for the US, any thoughts on how to best divide it up?08:10
blizahso i dont type "sudo apt-get bittorrent_4.0.0-2_all.deb"   ?08:10
whiprushsudo dpkg -i blah.deb08:11
elmayaheya.. i got this error everytime i try tu upgrade the system08:11
elmayaE: /var/cache/apt/archives/ubuntu-artwork_0.2.18-1_all.deb:  trying to overwrite `/usr/share/gnome-background-properties', which is also in package gnome-backgrounds08:11
bryandid you download the rpm?08:11
blizahah ok08:11
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makowhiprush: us is kind of a big place..08:11
bryanafter you download the rpm, open a terminal08:12
makowhiprush: i mean, i'd be down to having one for new york.. like that's it08:12
bryantype: alien BitTorrent-4.0.0-1.noarch.rpm08:12
makoit's bigger than many countries :)08:12
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makowhiprush: lets talk tomorrow08:12
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whiprushmako: yeah I was mulling on to name my area but not make some obtuse naming convention08:12
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makowhiprush: i gotta crash.. i've been hacking for something 40 hours today08:13
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dead|shellhey Zaphod_08:14
dead|shellalot of netsplits tonight08:15
jeff_how can i tell when dd has finished writing08:15
topylijeff_: you just get your prompt back08:16
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jeff_topyli, but it stoped reading from the cd rom drive08:16
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jeff_yet no prompt08:16
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topylijeff_: hmm. failed perhaps?08:17
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jeff_a yes :(08:17
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topylipress enter and see if there's a prompt08:17
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jeff_ill be back reboot time08:18
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marshallanybody willing to help a newbie re: NDISwrapper please msg me08:19
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marshallcome on guys, hook me up :)08:22
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jjpmr52hi everyone ...if there is someone?08:24
marshallwhats up08:24
marshalltrying to get some help with ndiswrapper, anyone got a min?08:24
factotumjust ask the question, maybe someone will answer08:25
_4strOjjpmr52> there are 324 people here08:26
jjpmr52so i hope someone can help me or direct me on something08:26
marshallthanks factotum, basically i must get my wireless card to work or revert back to windows :( every howto says to install ndiswrapper using sunaptic package amnager but i dont have ndiswrapper as an option.  i've selected the universal repositories as someone suggested but still no dice.  how in the heck can i get ndiswrapper to show up as an option to install?08:27
jjpmr52what would be the best program to download music on Linux ?08:27
elmayayou could download ndiswrapper and install it by compiling too08:28
snowblinkjjpmr52: ndiswrapper-utils08:28
snowblinksorry. marshall: ndiswrapper-utils08:28
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_4strOjjpmr52> nicotine08:29
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factotummarshall, check out the ubuntu unofficial how-to, there is a section about adding apt rep's. They will probably hold what you need08:29
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snowblinkfactotum: ndiswrapper is in main08:30
jjpmr52thanks for the tip ....4stro08:30
blizahwhats the difference between "removal"  and "complete removal" in synaptic08:30
highvoltageHi. I'm trying to compile a kernel, but when I'm booting it, I get a kernel panic: VFS not syncing. Anyone have any ideas what I forgot to put in there? I'm not using an initrd so I disabled it in the grub line.08:30
blizahdoes complete take the package off my list of possible packages to install?08:30
_4strOu(re welcome08:30
_4strOave to go work08:30
danny666k3b won't burn iso file "it seems to be no iso"08:30
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factotumsnowblink, ah alright08:30
marshallthanks but i'm really a newbie at this.  can someone just point me to an exact document or somethign to simply get ndiswrapper and utils to show up in synaptic?  i've been reading howtos and trying to install it manually for 2 days08:31
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marshallit's really a shame that i can't seem to find a linux distro that gets wireless working out of the box08:36
Burgundaviamarshall: the issue is that most wireless card makers won't support open source drivers08:37
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marshallok well i guess no one can help...thanks anyways. i guess i'll give it one or two more shots but if it ain't gonna work i gotta get back to work using windows08:39
factotummarshall, sorry I couldnt help more, at least your still trying. Its more than alot of people do which is awsome08:40
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factotummarshall: just for the heck of it, read this:   http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories08:41
marshallwell factotum, i'll tell you i've been trying to get off of windows for 5 years now but i always hit some snag.  then i was introduced to ubuntu and it looked like it was usable.  i like to think linux is ready for the desktop but i'm really not convinced it is.  i'm no genius but i can use a computer and im willing to experiment, but if in 3 days, 5 fresh installs, numerous forum posts and irc help i still cant even get my wireless to work, it's just not08:42
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HrdwrBoBmarshall: what wireless card do you have08:43
factotumouch, I'm going on 3 years with a linux desktop and I know, if it doesnt give you grey hairs, they willjust start falling out08:43
marshalli have a netgear ma521 and a 3com 3crwe62092b, i dont care which works, i just need one to work08:44
blizahif ive just installed ubuntu do i need any type of virus protection or firewall?08:44
blizahheh as you can tell im coming from windows :D08:45
marshallfactotum: i think it's fun and interesting to learn and play around and have the control linux provides but that's AFTER you get your basic stuff to work.  fighting to get your basic hardware to work is making me think windows aint so bad heh08:45
topylimarshall: you just need to get some decent hardware that works well with linux :)08:45
HrdwrBoBmarshall: that isn't linux' fault08:45
topylimarshall: less the laptop to your worst enemy and get another one =)08:46
marshalltopyli: hardware came before software, obviously i can't go out and buy all new hardware08:46
topylisell, not less :o08:46
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topylimarshall: i used to have difficult hardware when i switched from windows. later on, i've learned to build compatible boxen08:47
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marshalltopyli: perhaps but i have an ibm thinkpad which i love.  i will always use a thinkpad08:47
penjuinhello all08:47
marshallunless lenovo f*cks it up08:48
topylimarshall: fair enough08:48
HrdwrBoBmarshall: those cards are pcmcia08:48
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marshallhrdwrbob: correct08:48
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HrdwrBoBso, not in fact part of your computer08:48
HrdwrBoBeverything else should work08:49
marshallwell when i boot i do get an error about modprobe fatal error but i dont know about that yet08:49
marshallthat's off a fresh instlal08:49
marshalleverythign else seems to be fine08:49
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HrdwrBoBmarshall: that's actually not an error, that should be supressed, you can ignore it08:50
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marshallok why does that error happen?08:50
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HrdwrBoBit tries to load some drivers for stuff your hardware doesn't support08:50
HrdwrBoB(hotplug pci)08:50
topylimarshall: i seem to remember a colleague has a thinkpad, with fedora running ok. if i remember correctly, then any linux should work on it08:50
marshallah i c08:50
blizahso do i need any type of firewall/anti-virus for linux?08:51
HrdwrBoBblizah: no08:51
HrdwrBoBnot as suck08:51
blizahnot even firewall?08:51
marshalltopyli: the linux isn't the problem.  it seems if i can get ndiswrapper installed i can use my windows .inf driver and get the wireless working08:51
HrdwrBoBmarshall: I don't mean to be rude, but would it be possible to swap or exchange your cards for other cards?08:51
marshallbut all the howto's say "instazll ndiswrapper using synaptec" but i dont have it there08:51
HrdwrBoBmarshall: apparently even with ndiswrapper they're not that good, but we can help you with ndisweapper08:51
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factotumblizah, or if you want, get an old 486 and build your own firewall/router/server/whatever if you get bored08:51
marshallhrdwrbob: not rude, but i have 2 here, both brand names, should be able to get one of them working08:52
topyliblizah: if you want to run services locally (hide them from the internet), you can either use a firewall or tcp-wrappers08:52
HrdwrBoBmarshall: neither of them are supported, however, there are many cards that are full supported08:52
HrdwrBoBbut as long as you have the drivers there08:52
HrdwrBoBwe can install ndiswrapper now for you08:52
HrdwrBoByou've got the laptop in ubuntu now and it's plugged into the net?08:52
marshallwhen you say supported, do you mean immediately after a fresh install of linux it will work out of the box?08:53
blizahtopyli services locally mean like having an ftp?08:53
marshalli have the laptop in ubunto but it's not on the net.  i have one ethernet cable and i'm using it on this machine08:53
blizahhrdwr was that a yes at me?08:53
blizahah dont think so08:53
marshallis there a list of supported cards?08:53
HrdwrBoByes, hangon08:53
topyliblizah: yes, like a development web server that serves pages only to localhost. or an intranet hidden from the internet08:54
topyliblizah: like i run mysql and apache on this box but i hide them from the outside world08:54
shockI hope so much that hoary will be rocksolid by the time of release.08:55
shockright now evolution keeps crashing on me :/08:55
shockand the memmory usage of some apps is.... bizare!08:56
penjuinhi, im thinking of using ubuntu for my server...08:56
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marshallthanks, i'll have a look.  maybe when i have some money i'll buy a nother wireless card but i think i'm just gonna go back to windows for now.08:56
penjuindoes it hav all the libs for openxchange?08:56
shockgot ubuntu on my router/fileserver here works fine08:56
topylishock: the "preview" is due today. are you saying i shouldn't upgrade?08:56
marshalli made a ghost image so i can just copy it back08:56
penjuini kinda like it08:56
shockI would =)08:57
HrdwrBoBmarshall: sure? if you have the drivers and the install CD handy we can help you install ndiswrapper08:57
shockbut i like to be a tester08:57
marshalli have the ubuntu cd and my drivers but no internet access on the laptop.  will it work to install ndiswrapper?08:57
penjuinso is it good for that kind of thing?08:57
shockand atually i think evolutions hickups might be related to some incidents I had, using it during its unstable phase08:57
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penjuinive got a k6 128mb ram08:57
penjuinits just a local server08:58
penjuinand slackware just doesnt cut it08:58
topylishock: i ran hoary earlier in the development, and evolution was seriously broken most of the time08:58
shocktoo bad you cant reset evolution completely to default settings without loosing your gnome-settings08:58
penjuinwell i prob wont use X08:58
penjuinand about the cd shipping08:59
penjuinwats the deal with live cds08:59
shocktopyli - i am running hoary aver since it was available "broken" is a rather mild description for what the evo package was :P08:59
Seqi've been using hoary for a while and never had any real issues with evolution that I can think of08:59
HrdwrBoBmarshall: yes08:59
topylishock: needs a little love that's all :)08:59
shockseq - lucker!08:59
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penjuinwhats the go with livecds09:00
penjuinwhen u ship them09:00
shockwell u can TEST how well your computer works with ubuntu09:00
shockwithout having to install anything09:00
penjuini mean09:00
penjuinthat i want to install, but have many friends that want the livecds09:00
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sihenello all09:01
penjuinso is there a way to get just live cds?09:01
shockmaybe if you ask them09:01
sihenplease give me that site address for themes again, sorry i got disconnected09:01
marshallhrdwrbob: ok great, i sent you a /msg09:01
penjuinye ok09:01
penjuinim off guyz09:01
shocksihen - gnome?09:01
penjuincya all09:01
sihenshock,  ye09:02
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blizahtopyli, just outta curiousity what firewall should i use under ubuntu09:04
blizahnot sure if i need one09:04
blizahi do run an ftp occasionaly09:04
sihenand could someone possible help me get my other hd mounted09:04
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TomArayaI guess trying to go to Hoary was a bad idea. :P anyway, I've reformatted now (X wouldn't start, wouldn't accept the root password anymore) but now when I try to boot back into Windows to get NDISWrapper as it's on the desktop, I get an error message.09:06
blizahi get a message at boot that says pnp bios failure blablalaal09:06
TomArayaI've reinstalled Warty.09:06
blizahnothing bad is happening b/c of it09:06
blizahbut the message doesnt sound like somethign i want to have09:07
TomArayaSo now I can't boot back into Windows, was wondering if I could do something to the grub file .. try and edit it and see if I could fix it somehow.09:07
BurgundaviaTomAraya: what sort of error message?09:08
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KarLiNha_-oi pessoas09:10
TomArayaBurgundavia: I'll go write it down. brb09:10
topyliblizah: the firewall is in the kernel. i use firestarter to set it up09:10
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TomArayaroot (hd0,0)09:18
TomArayafilesystem type09:18
schasishock: Did you learn?09:18
TomArayaunknown, partion type 0x709:18
TomArayasave default09:18
shockthe past 4 weeks09:18
shockdid nothing else09:18
TomArayachainloader +109:18
schasiTomAraya: You really keep trying with Linux don't you?09:18
schasishock: Could you say that you are well preapared?09:18
shockhavent seen my gf in this time but for one weekend09:18
KarLiNha_-they alguem wants to talk? I am of Brazil09:18
schasiOr do you depend on luck?09:18
shockits like a pretty nasty topic, but yes I am09:19
TomArayaschasi: Ouch.09:19
schasiHave that all the time ;-)09:19
shockonly problem - anything below B+ is worth nothing @ bremen university09:19
schasiAbitur Vorklausur Mathe 1 pkt oder so09:19
TomArayaAm I looking at another reformat? Anything I could try with Grub?09:19
shock< schasi> Or do you depend on luck? <--- believing that one is not dependent on luck would be ... f***ing st*pid09:20
shockaua @ 1 punkt09:20
schasishock: But there are things you can do to make it more likely for you to pass09:20
schasiLike being good and learning09:20
shockyeah - sleep with my prof :P09:20
shockshe's a hottie *g*09:21
schasiThats not exactly what i meant09:21
schasishe? well i dont think she would sleep with you. but if she does, go for it09:21
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schasis/does/did/ or so09:22
shocki think my gf would strongly object to that  strategy09:22
shockoh well... if its a c it'll still be a passed test and I still have time to get a better one09:23
TomArayaanyone have any idea?09:23
schasiI think she would understand that it is for her future as well09:23
schasig2go, l8er ppl09:23
shockTomAraya - erm09:23
schasishock: gl&hf09:24
shockyou ubuntu grub conf should have an example in it09:24
TomArayaYeah, the file is proper.09:26
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TomArayamenu.lst looks proper.09:26
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shockso... what happens if you want to boot into windows?09:27
TomAraya<TomAraya> root (hd0,0)09:27
TomAraya<TomAraya> filesystem type09:27
TomAraya<schasi> shock: Did you learn?09:27
TomAraya<TomAraya> unknown, partion type 0x709:27
TomAraya<TomAraya> save default09:27
TomAraya<shock> the past 4 weeks09:27
TomAraya<TomAraya> makeactive09:27
TomAraya<shock> did nothing else09:27
TomAraya<TomAraya> chainloader +109:27
shockhttp://ubuntuguide.org/index.html <-- lkook for the "how to add windows to your grub"09:29
TomAraya... right09:29
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KarLiNha_-somebody has msn to messenger?09:30
shockas long as you actually do have you windows on hd(0,0) you are good to go09:30
shockok - i need to get ready to go to my exam09:30
TomArayaOf course it is.. that's what I said.09:30
KarLiNha_-somebody has msn to messenger?09:30
shockmsn? i have an msn account09:31
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shockrunning it in gaim09:31
shockno probs at all09:31
topyligaim works09:31
shockgaim uses heaps of memory however :(09:31
TomArayaAnyone have any ideas of what I can try?09:31
shockdunnno why09:31
GNAMwhat's the difference between a fortran library SHARED version / STATIC version?09:32
topylishock: shows 39M here. i suppose most of it is cache and not real09:32
GNAMshall I install lapack3 (shared version) or lapack3-dev (static version) ?09:33
topyliGNAM: if you have the libraries it depends on, use them. if you don't, use the static version09:33
Myrttioh btw, if someone else has had problems with XMMS not starting up properly, my problem was that libmikmod or smthn like that wasn't installed09:34
Myrttinoticed it when I finally realized that trying to start it up from terminal might give some hints on the problem09:34
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blizahgaim uses lots of memory?09:35
Myrttitry bitlbee09:35
topyliMyrtti: bitlbee is very cool if you like your irc client. makes you forget you're using them evil messengers :)09:36
shock< blizah> gaim uses lots of memory? - indeed - after running for 2 or three days its up to 120 megs09:36
Myrttitopyli: and is transportable everywhere09:37
Myrttiand if you're hooked on irc, gets better attention than gaim09:37
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shockfor irc nothing beats irssi :P09:37
topyliyes. console-friendly so you can just ssh home and attach a screen to your forever running irs09:38
shockafter some customisation09:38
shockneed to run now09:38
shockwish me luck09:38
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krestenHi. I'm about to install ubuntu later today, but I'm not sure if my wireless network card is supported. Does any of you know where to check this?09:41
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highvoltagekresten: what kind of network card is it?09:42
krestenintel 210009:43
highvoltageis it a centrino laptop?09:43
highvoltageubuntu detects it automatically on startup09:43
krestenIBM R5109:43
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highvoltageI have a thinkpad t41 and it works 100%09:43
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krestenIt didn't last time I installed it...09:43
highvoltageweird. mine popped up a 'window' asking for network key, ssid, etc, i filled it in and it worked09:44
T5hile__, can you tell me how set up a dhcp timeout? i read man interfaces but there is no clue of how this is to be done09:44
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T5sorry hile this was just meant to be "hi"09:45
krestenMaybe it's because i wasn't connected to the Internet...09:45
krestenThough my router was running...09:45
T5highvoltage, what program are you speaking about?09:46
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krestenAny ideas? Oh, and by the way... Be gentle I'm new to linux...09:47
highvoltageT5: the ubuntu installer09:48
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T5ah ok, i thought it would be netapplet or network manager09:49
MrKeunerhi, I can successfully use the nv driver on my widescreen with a resolution of 1280x800. However, when I run when I run nvidia driver, xorg starts on the left handside of the screen leaving a blank space on the right. I remember some kernel module parameters to use while modprobing the nvidia module. Does anybody use that?09:49
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hile__T5: if you are using xchat, set the 'automatic nickname completion' off from input box preferences so it does do it09:53
hile__it's really stupid default preference, IMHO09:53
hile__... you still can complete with <TAB>  anyway09:54
hile__AFAIK, I use irssi in screen  so can't remember for sure ;)09:54
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thoreauputichile__: yes, turning off autocmplete still allows tab complete in xchat09:55
pepsiis ther any way i can add a submenu to the Applications menu?09:55
T5in fact i pressed tab ;) so it was my fault...09:55
T5i apologize09:55
hile__no problem ;)09:56
hile__hmm, lost my nick in reconnects09:57
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topylithe worst thing in gaim is you can't turn off part/join server messages10:00
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MyrttiI couldn't configure the damn thing to pop out the incoming messages window on top10:02
the_1hi everyone, how's it going today, all is fine? ;)10:02
Myrttithat's why I was desperate of finding a better solution to connect to icq/msn10:02
Myrttiand bitlbee was godsent10:02
the_1I have a question..if I select SERVER when I install UBUNTU,is it the same like installing debian with base-system?10:04
topylii should setup bitlbee again, it's too weird to need X for irc and other stuff10:04
andreasthe1: No - you get the full system. It just updates during install10:05
topylithe_1: i guess it is10:05
Myrttiandreas: a netinstall, in other words?10:05
the_1you see,I convinced a friend to try ubuntu, and he's a debian user usually10:05
the_1andreas: thanks10:06
andreasmyrti: Well... Install fom cd - update by internet10:06
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Myrttiandreas: if I only had known that when I installed :-/10:06
andreasthe1: *smile* Word of advice... It atkes jsut as long without the update as with10:07
soulhacki have some troubles starting up, GRUB wont give me the option to load either XP or Ubuntu, it says that GRUB 1.5 LOADS then i find myself getting booted into Ubuntu.10:07
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andreassoulhack: Did you manually add XP during install?10:07
blizahwhere is the list of programs that run at startup kept10:08
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soulhackXP was installed prior to Ubuntu installation10:08
jesuelwoot, Finally. I have my laptop setup completely with all my software. Even got gnome setup the way i like :)10:08
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andreassoulhack: But did you add it to GRUB?10:08
soulhackhmm, not manually10:08
Myrttiblizah: startup of what10:08
andreassoulhack: There` s the mistake10:08
the_1anyone using ubuntu and a wireless connection? possibly encrypted with WPA?10:09
jesuelthe_1: I am using wireless on hoary with WEP @ home and WPA @ school10:09
soulhackandreas, but it is in the menu.lst10:09
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andreassoulhack: Unless you manually add XP to GRUB it deletes the MBR10:10
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jesuel*grin* screenshot of my little gnomelaptop -  http://members.dslextreme.com/users/sjgerman/images/screenie.png10:11
thoreauputicandreas: umm... my warty install added XP, Ubuntu and Debian to grub without a problem10:11
jesuelthe_1: What kinda problems are you having?10:11
soulhackandreas, XP is set to load from the right HD in menu.lst so there\s nothing i can change there.10:11
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the_1jesuel: I installed wpa_supplicant and managed to connect once on my wpa-enabled home network, but never again since then, I tried different settings, disabling and enabling the network interface every time, and one other thing is that the network doesn't enable itself automatically during boot10:12
andreastherou: It did? Weird.. I`ve always been told that the manual way is the only way10:12
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jesuelHrm, Weird. Lets see, my network will automatically connect on bootup at home here, using wep like I said, When I connect at school, I actually have to go in and switch profiles.10:13
thoreauputicit recognised that there were 3 bootable OS's and they are all there on the grub bootup screen10:13
andreasjesuel: KDE.... You ought to know better...10:13
jesuelandreas: thats not kde, thats gnome.10:13
wtdHave a Hoary oddity.  The System menu pops up fine for a split second, then switches to an empty menu.10:13
the_1jesuel: btw, in the network interface dialog for wireless it stll shows WPE and not WPA, do you know if there is some other applet for wireless conectivity for ubuntu, something more complete?10:14
soulhackyes, because, when i booted for the first time grub was fine. I did download a few fixes from synaptic pckg mngr and when i rebooted it went boyah..10:14
jesuelthe_1: Not that ive seen, im using hoary.10:14
andreasthero: Hmm.... I`m impressed if it`s true but why can soulhack then not get it to work?10:14
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jesuelthe_1: Course im actually pretty new to ubuntu + hoary in general. I just basically got my laptop working with it within the last couple days. I have ran ubuntu as a cli server for a few months.10:15
thoreauputicsounds like it *was* working, but got broken on upgrade10:15
soulhackthoreauputic, any idea on how to fix that easily?10:15
jesuelandreas: Why you think I was using KDE anyhow?10:16
andreasjesuel: Wasn`t there a little KDE app in the bottom right corner?10:16
thoreauputicsoulhack: I assume you checked that GRUB menu.lst is pointing to the right places ? (partitions)10:16
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the_1jesuel: but how is your wireless card setup? youput the wpa password in the wep box, because it doesn't actually show that it is wpa compatible, even after installing wpa_supplicant, right?10:17
jesuelandreas: uhm not that I know of, bottom right hand corner is clock, on the right hand pane there is xscreensaverlock + window selector + vdesktop selector.10:17
jesuelthe_1: Thats correct10:18
andreasjesuel: Please post URL once again10:18
wtdSo, any ideas as to why my System menu is acting oddly?10:18
the_1jesuel: and you have DHCP server running on your router, or you are using static IPs?10:19
calamariDo I need the samba package installed in order to browse Windows shares, or just samba-common ?10:19
andreasjesuel: I see.... The GNOME menu... I htought the battery indicator was KDE10:19
soulhackthoreauputic, yes, checked now, I am 100% new to linux but I think it is properly configured10:19
jesuelthe_1: Yup dhcpd on m0n0wall firewall that connects to the net.10:20
topylijesuel: you sure have a blue desktop dude :)10:20
jesuelandreas: oh yeah that battery monitor does look like the kde one.10:20
jesueltopyli: I love blue.10:20
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topylicalamari: you need smbclient10:21
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Smeveni am trying to get my card reader on my laptop going10:21
Smevenno luck yet10:21
calamarithanks.. looks like I had the windows machine misconfigured.. working now :)10:22
Smevenwhat modules do i need to  load to have it work?10:22
soulhackthoreauputic, the fact that i have double sets of ubuntu loads under End Default Options, does that matter?10:22
Smeven4-in-1 card reader...10:22
jesueltopyli: laptop has a polished aluminum case thats been sprayed in cobalt blue then clearcoat x4. All the led's are blue. All the lights are blue. and the keyboard is backlit with blue led's10:22
the_1jesuel: I guess my only option is to reinstall hoary and hope it does all that it won't do now, like enabling the network interface at boot time, logging in automatically to the network, work with wpa, etc..10:22
thoreauputicsoulhack: double sets? alternative kernels or what?10:22
topylijesuel: you like blue. ok, i believe you =)10:22
jesueltopyli: :)10:23
Smevendo you have blue balls?10:23
jesuelthe_1: Hrmm, thinkin.10:23
jesuelSmeven: Nope. :)10:23
soulhackthoreauputic, well, first i have the standard titlerootkernelinitred savedefault and boot. Then the recovery mode. Then they are both stated again.10:23
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soulhackthoreauputic, when i check a sample of the menu.lst it\s only listed one of each, i have two. does this make any sense?10:24
thoreauputicsoulhack: sounds odd10:24
Smevenany ideas on the memory card problem?10:24
soulhackshould i remove the duplets?10:24
soulhackit is identical10:24
topylihrmpf. i got a form to fill from work. it's an rtf document but doesn't work in openoffice. i was reduced to a windows user again for a moment :(10:24
jesueltopyli: ew. Evil work.10:25
soulhackoh, wait, theres a difference. one says> kernel/boot/vmlinuz- root=/dev/sda3 ro single the other says
thoreauputicsoulhack: well, back up menu.lst to menu.lst.bak or similar, then edit them out - but make sure you have another way to boot if it all goes pear-shaped10:25
thoreauputicsoulhack: that's what I thought - other kernels10:26
soulhackthoreauputic, thats from previous to the update, should be safe to remove, right?10:26
topylijesuel: all is well now, i've shut down the windows box :)10:26
thoreauputicsoulhack: no need to - and having a backup kernel can be useful10:27
thoreauputicsoulhack: if a new kernal causes "issues"10:27
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Nermalyay for gnome 2.10 being in hoary :D10:27
topyliit's all in now?10:27
NermalI think so10:28
soulhackthoreauputic, okay, well, then, i am lost again. ill try to reboot and see if the problem is still there.10:28
Nermalwell.. I just did and update and dist-upgrade is pulling in all the gnome 2.10 packages10:28
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marshallhi guys, before i was in here and i've been trying to get my wlan working.  i finally got ndiswrapper installed and when i do "ndiswrapper -l" it says my driver is installed and the hardware present.  now when i go to computer -> networking and try to add the wireless network card it doesnt seem to be available to add.  anyone know what i need to do? i feel i'm so close :)10:29
topyliNermal: strange though. the gnome hackers still seem to be "working on" the release process. :) i guess the software itself is there though10:30
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Smevenubuntu wont let me install hwdb-client10:31
Nermalright.. shutting down X for this upgrade :)10:31
Smevenno candidate10:31
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Burgundaviamarshall: go to the command line and type ifconfig10:32
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marshallburgundavia: has my ethernet and lo but no wlan10:33
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Burgundaviamarshall: look at dmesg and see you if get anything there when you plug it in10:33
jesuelmarshall: modprobe ndiswrapper10:34
marshallburgundavia: what am i looking for, i'm a newbie and there's a lot of stuff here :)10:34
jesuelmarshall: do a sudo modprobe ndiswrapper10:34
marshalljesuel: ok done now what?10:35
jesuelmarshall: ok, dmesg | grep ndiswrapper10:35
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marshalljesuel: ok now what :)  looks liek it recognizes the wlan there10:35
jesuelnow you can go in and configure it10:36
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jesuelsudo iwlist wlan0 scan10:36
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krestenMarshall: Let me know if it works. I'm installing Ubuntu later today and have experienced the same problem earlier...10:38
jesuelkresten: that should work10:39
jesuelkresten: I fooled around enough with my wireless to get it to work @ home / school / work with 3 different setups10:39
marshallwell i'm trying to activate it but it's freezing, i'm letting it sit for a minute and "think"10:40
krestenOk. Thanks. I'm new to linux, but I assume those things you wrote earlier should be typed at the command prompt, rigth?10:40
marshallkresten: it's a mighty pain in the ass, i hope you have thick skin :)10:40
jesuelsilly broadcom needs to release a driver for *nix, at least a binary, preferably a open source one.10:40
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marshallbut i think if i can get the wireless working i'll be able to handle other things10:40
jesuelmarshall: what chipset?10:41
marshalldont know chipset but it's a netgear ma52110:41
iSupermanhow do I determine if a blank disc is a DVD or a CD?10:41
jesuelkresten: yes, and their are faq's on how to set it up.10:41
krestenMarshall: my thoughts exactly...10:41
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jesuelkresten: Your card may not even require ndiswrapper. Depending on what card it is.10:41
jesuelmarshall: netgear ma521. Which inf file you use for that?10:42
krestenjesuel: it's an intel 210010:42
marshalljesuel: i can add the wireless now no problem but when i try to activate it it just "thinks" for a while and then returns to network settings unactivated10:42
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marshallthe inf i'm using is netma521.inf win2k river from netgear's website10:43
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jesuelkresten: http://ipw2100.sourceforge.net/10:43
jesuelmarshall: ...hrm.10:43
gsmithi'm having a problem with mail - using postfix   dovecot - messages sent to other users on the system aren't being recieved, but those sent to myself are10:44
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gsmithdoes anyone know how to resolve that problem and potential problems?10:44
krestenjesuel: thanks I saw it last time i was installing, but back then I thought I had a 2200... :(10:44
marshalljesuel: well definately the iwlist wlan0 scan is coming back with nothing10:45
jesuelmarshall: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/phpwiki/index.php/Installation - Read down to section 4. Configure Interface.10:45
pregoiSuperman, Looking at the disk? :-P10:45
jesuelkresten: well that would make a slight difference :)10:45
krestenjesuel: Yeah, my bad. Gotta go. Thanks for all the help!10:47
jesuelkresten: later~10:47
marshallgood luck kresten10:47
krestenMarshal: Thanks!10:47
iSupermanprego: there's no printing at all on a disc I have.   Thought there may be an app that gives some sort of information.10:48
marshalljesuel: ok i'm looking at the document hold on.  basically right now i have the wlan in my "connections" in network settings but the scan doesnt work10:48
jesuelright, you may need to set your essid manually then scan10:48
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marshalljesuel: windows picks up essid automatically, doesn't linux? what if i go to a public hotspot wherer i dont know the essid?10:50
scizzomarshall: the tools should search for the ssids that you can access10:51
marshallok i'm workin on it :)10:52
jesuelshould search, sometimes you have to specify it.10:53
scizzomarshall: the gnome tool to setup the network found a lot of different essids when I tried10:53
jesuelI had to specify it the first time, after that never again.10:53
scizzojesuel: if broadcast is off yes10:53
jesuelscizzo: broadcast is on though. Was funky10:53
jesuelscizzo: It works now though.10:53
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scizzojesuel: that is weird...anywho I always turn the broadcast off....10:54
marshallwell it doesn't seem to be working for some reason but i think i'm going to take a break from this before i kill it10:55
jesuelmarshall: no problem. Oh trust me, when I was configuring the wireless on this laptop the other night. I *ALMOST* killed it10:56
jesuelThen, it worked!10:56
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jesuelIt was even better when I was configuring qos/traffic shaping /pareental controls on my firewall. :)10:57
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jesuelhmm bbiab11:00
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hyphenhah!  got my hard drive working!11:00
marshallthanks guys, ttyl11:00
hyphennow i have another problem though :(11:00
mlambiedoes anyone know of a setting that will force hibernation when on battery and it falls to say 5% remaining, or do I need to whip up a script?11:01
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hypheni'm dual booting linux and winxp, but at startup i don't get a os select prompt, it just asks if i want to boot winxp pro, anyone know why?11:02
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mlambiehyphen: does it boot straight into windows, or does  GRUB prompt you for the OS and there's no Ubuntu listed?11:03
hyphenboot's straight into windows11:03
hyphenwhen grub DID load, and i chose winxp it would prompt for winxp again11:03
hyphenit just takes me straight to that prompt now, without going through grub11:04
mlambiesounds like windows overwrote the bootloader?11:04
hyphenis there a way i can fix that?  i think i might've done that on accident while i was rebuilding my external hd partition table11:04
mlambiegoogle will tell you how to reinstall GRUB to the master boot record using the ubuntu CD, I expect.11:04
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hyphenah, okay11:05
hyphenthanks :P11:05
mlambiehypatia: I don't know the exact steps, sorry.11:05
hyphennot a problem, i've spent hours scavenging google for help for my hd, i can spend a few for minutes doing it now :P11:06
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Nermalcan nautilus burn dvds ?11:07
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mlambieNermal: yeah, Nautilus can burn DVDs... infact, I'm about to burn a few now11:14
mlambietime to clean up /media/external I think ;)11:14
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pregoI'm in trouble... I was playing with hibernate... and now I have no swap, Why do I have not swap? How can I enable it again?11:21
prego(I failed to start from hibernation, probably because I should have chosen "recovery" at grub)11:22
Nermalswapon ?11:23
pregoswapon: /dev/hda3: Invalid argument11:24
pregosudo mkswap /dev/hda3?11:24
Nermalcan do11:24
Nermalmake sure you've got the right partition :)11:24
pregoI'm scared11:24
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pregoOK, I recovered from stall ;-)11:25
pregolet's see what has happened, since I was updating the system when I run out of memory and the machine hung (in practical sense of view, only)11:25
pregoFortunatelly seems that it was still downloading...11:27
helloyois there a way to not use bad sections of RAM?11:27
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pregohelloyo: nice question; however I doubt it. Probably the only way is to replace bad RAM :-(. AFAIK, and I'm not an expert.11:29
mlambiehelloyo: how can you tell that there's a bad section of RAM? I've only ever heard of RAM working, or not.11:29
mlambieMyrtti: ohh, ok.11:30
mlambie.... and that's installed with Ubuntu now isn't it :)11:30
helloyoyeah, i used that memory test11:30
MyrttiI once had a hardware problem that infected network connections11:30
mlambieamd I going crazy, or are we expecting the Hoary release today?11:30
helloyoit seems that you can give a boot instruction that ignores certain blocks of ram11:30
spaceyhelloyo, few years ago i read about that possibility. was some kernel patch i think. but i doubt its still maintained.11:30
spaceymaybe it is11:31
spaceyforgot the name anyway11:31
spaceybut it is possible11:31
Myrttiafter changing NIC, motherboard, chassis and harddrives, the last thing tried was the brand new 256MB RAM11:31
Nermalbad ram usually gives segfaults11:31
helloyoyeah, been getting heaps of segfaults11:32
helloyowell i guess i'll just get new ram, seems like the best solution11:32
Nermaldownload md5sums failing.. all that fun stuff :|11:32
helloyohahaha, yep, that too, took me three goes to get a good ubuntu download11:32
Myrttithat problem existed on a windows os, if I had have linux, the problem would've been pinpointed earlier11:32
helloyobut then cos of the ram, it didn't burn great11:32
jesuelAh, now azureus now works! : )11:36
prego(ubgrading, so I cannot check what it is)11:37
jesuelprego: bittorrent client :)11:37
helloyowill 512MB ram give me much of a boost over 256?11:37
pregoah :-)11:37
jesuelhelloyo: IMHO yes11:37
Nermalhelloyo, depends how much stuff you run11:37
pregohelloyo: probably11:38
pregohelloyo: with gnome et al, you reach 256 easily if you are compiling and using synaptic: I had no swap (and I didn't realize) and I reached that top... :-((11:39
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goldfish_count = initcount;11:40
goldfish_ins = outs = 0;11:40
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goldfish_sorry :/11:41
goldfish_fucking right click11:41
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linuxn00bHey, in webmin how do I do port forwarding?11:42
gillesubuntu boots very slowly, especially when it tries to find a network, is there a way to improve that ? Is it because I use hoary ?11:43
xamdm@linuxn00b which firewall do jou use ??11:44
xamdmits under firewall rules11:45
xamdmi just gonna install it, so i can tell you the complete way11:45
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heduhi guys11:46
linuxn00bok...I don't even know how to configure webmin but so far is has been great to me I finally got ICS working :-D11:46
hedulooking for help to get an external monitor running on my laptop11:46
linuxn00bhedu, hey :)11:46
hedulinuxn00b hey back :(11:47
ZorroBytesAnyone good here with XDMCP and getting gdm to work remotely?11:47
xamdm@linuxn00b, did jou configure anything from shorewall?? (sorry for my bad english im german)11:48
linuxn00bcan anyone connect to http://incdb.kicks-ass.net:8888/ ??11:48
linuxn00bxamdm, nope I just installed shorewall along with webmin :) I was also doing some other stuff eariler (drunk then) haha11:49
xamdmlinuxn00b, ok, then there is a bit more stuff to be done, warty ore hoary ??11:50
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linuxn00bshoot I cant forward a port :( my interneal network can connect fine but not external >:(11:50
linuxn00bwarty :)11:50
jamin_lhey guys11:50
linuxn00bhey jamin_l :)11:51
xamdmis shorewall running??, ore didn't jou configure anything ??11:51
jamin_lI'm trying to get SoundJuicer to rip mp3s ... getting error: Could not create GStreamer encoder ((null))11:51
jamin_lhave gstreamer and lame already on this beast11:52
linuxn00bxamdm, shorewall is running11:52
wezzer-you need some libraries11:52
Nermalrun gst-register ?11:52
wezzer-see ubuntuforums.org11:52
wezzer-and there is howto section11:52
jamin_lwezzer: to me?11:52
jamin_li have w32codecs11:52
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xamdmok, so jou want to forwart a port (example 229 to an machine in your local network ??11:52
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milezany of you guys have a solution for my resolv.conf getting rewritten every 5 minutes? :P11:52
jamin_lwezzer,  anything else i need?11:53
Nermalmilez, get a longer lease time ?11:53
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linuxn00bxamdm, yes I want to forward port 8888 to a machine on my local network11:53
wezzer-jamin_l: wait11:54
wezzer-I'm checking the FAQ11:54
milezNermal , i don't want it rewritten in the first place!11:54
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xamdmlinuxn00b, ok, just a sacond11:54
milezi mean what, should i start using fam to figure out what is actually touching it?11:54
linuxn00bxamdm, ok11:54
heduNEED HELP: get external monitor on laptop to run (warty)11:55
linuxn00bhedu, what video card??11:55
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wezzer-jamin_l: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats11:55
hedulinuxn00b sis 65x/M650/74011:56
jamin_lhrm how do you add new repositories to Synaptic again? well what's the line you enter... i know how to get to that point11:57
linuxn00bok, lemme see what my gf did to get it working on mine one sec :)11:57
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linuxn00bhedu, well she wasn't quite sure how she got it to work before...all she remember was do a simple edit in the X config :/11:59
xamdmlinuxn00b, 1st choose firewall rules in webmin, create new one, Action DNAT, sourcezone (internet), destination zone (localnet),Only hosts in zone with addresses (ip), protocol TCP, destination ports 8888. Hope that works11:59
hedulinuxn00b in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 , I know that but I need to know what. is it working for you? if yes can I see your file?12:00
jamin_lwezzer, already had that installed, just needed an upgrade12:01
shock_got an A- (1.7) .... drinkin a beer now!12:01
jamin_land still the same error12:01
linuxn00bhedu, sorry I don't anymore I had to put XP back on there for school :( sorry12:01
jamin_li don't get it12:02
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linuxn00bxamdm, well it works if a use but http://incdb.kicks-ass.net:8888/ doesn't work I went to the dyndns website and updated it :/12:02
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linuxn00banyone here use dyndns.org??12:04
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xamdmlinunoob, yes12:04
jamin_lAnymore ideas on how to get SoundJuicer to rip to mp3? Got packages: gstreamer0.8-mad, gstreamer0.8-lame, glame. Getting error: "Could not create GStreamer encoder ((null))12:04
linuxn00bwell I went to the site to update my IP but I can't connect strange...i don't know if the problem is with my port forwarding or something else12:05
xamdmlinuxn00b, wihch tool do jou use for dyndns ??12:05
linuxn00bumm I just clicked on "my services" and changed it there12:06
xamdmlinuxn00b, oh12:06
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xamdmlinuxnoob, that didn't work ??12:07
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jamin_lAnyone with expertise in this subject? *sigh* this worked in Warty... now it won't work in Hoary12:07
linuxn00bxamdm, nope12:07
xamdmlinuxnoob, what happens ??12:08
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linuxn00bnothing when I tpye in incdb.kicks-ass.net:8888 in IE or FF nothing happens12:08
xamdmlinuxnoob, did jou try to ping ??12:09
milezhow risky is it going to unstable?12:09
jesuelmilez: you mean using hoary?12:09
linuxn00bxamdm, it doesn't work it used to tho but not anymore12:09
milezuh huh12:09
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xamdmlinuxnoob, am i allowed to do a portscan ??, just looking if 8888 is open ??12:10
milezjesper_ , it doesn't make sense to me that my windows machine has a more up to date version of firefox than the linux one12:10
xamdmlinuxnoob, is thios jour online ip ??12:10
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linuxn00byup thats it12:10
xamdmlinuxnoob, ok then dyndns is working12:11
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linuxn00bif it is working why cant I use incdb.kicks-ass.net:888812:12
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xamdmlinuxnoob, maybe the forwarding isnt working, lets see what the portscan says..12:13
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milezjesuel , that is12:14
HakanGunduzget download link ( live cd iso) ?12:14
xamdmlinuxnoob, where are jou from ??12:14
goldfish_BELGIUM ?12:15
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Myrtticanada, I'd say12:15
Myrttiusing /whois linuxn00b, then whois telus.net on command prompt12:16
Myrttime teh guru!12:17
xamdmanyone else from germany ??12:17
jesuellol Myrtti12:17
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xamdmlinuxn00b, still scanning, just making a pizza, bak in a few minutes12:18
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jesuelwb kresten12:18
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Solatis_ehrm, urgent question what should be too hard for someone to look up... where does /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.a point to ?12:19
krestenjesuel: Thanks. Do you hang out here all day?12:19
Solatis_while trying to fix my hoary nvidia drivers, i accidently removed the symlink :X12:19
raghuhow to restrict user ..so that he should not be able to navigate outside his home folder?12:19
jesuelkresten: Nah. Im just here right now, listening to music..bored....insomnia...12:19
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umarmungSolatis_: ls: /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.a: No such file or directory :)12:21
krestenjesuel: :( I have another question then. How does your partition structure look like?12:22
Solatis_that's strange12:22
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Solatis_umarmung: what do you have in that directory ? you do have libglx.so ?12:22
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umarmungSolatis_: yes, it's a link to libglx.so.1.0.6629 in the same directory12:23
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theineHi, are there any plans for including gnome-bluetooth into main?12:23
jesuelalt+f4 bad :)12:24
xamdmis hoary running stable ??, last time i tried nautilus allways crashed12:24
krestenhe he...12:24
jesuelkresten: did my message answer your question?12:24
scizzoxamdm: hoary is not stable....12:24
Myrttixamdm: but very soon it is12:24
xamdmok, ist it usable ;-)12:25
scizzoxamdm: its in development....but its moving towards being stable12:25
scizzoxamdm: no12:25
scizzoxamdm: its useful for me...using it on my laptop and workstation12:25
xamdmok, i'm just installing it in vmwasre before upgrade ..12:25
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krestenjesuel: Not really... I see you have 4 partitions, right?12:26
CentraXCan somebody answer me on a question please?12:26
jesuelplus another 5 or 6 that i mount via nfs12:26
CentraXIs Ubuntu full available in Swedish?12:26
virtualdCentraX: nstan allt r versatt12:26
scizzoCentraX: ngon gng kanske12:26
CentraXse p fan :P12:26
CentraXr ubuntu bra annars? ;O12:26
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CentraXbttre n fedora? fr nybrjare allts12:27
scizzo#ubuntu.se if you want to talk in swedish12:27
Solatis_umarmung: ok, well, thanks anyway :)12:27
jesuelhmm, didnt know about #ubuntu.se12:27
xamdmlinuxn00b, only port 113 themes to be open12:27
xamdmmy english is so bad..12:27
BurgundaviaCentraX: the best way to find out is to install. If it is not, then help us make it so :)12:28
linuxn00bxamdm, odd it should be open I must have done something worg :(12:28
krestenjesuel: But the smart thing (or so i've been told) is to use partitions to: 1. the OS 2. a swap file and 3. local users.. wrong?12:28
oz_Under hoary If I install gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg and gstreamer0.8-mad which mp3 decoder would get used?12:28
CentraXBurgundavia: yeah, why not. :P12:29
jesuelkresten: thats actually the smartest way, But i didnt do that12:29
krestenOk. :)12:29
xamdmlinuxn00b, on which system is the shorewall running, is it the ubuntu system, ore is there another linux system which is connected to the internet ??12:29
BurgundaviaCentraX: not being swedish, I cannot really answer you12:29
krestenYou're from sweden?12:29
jesuelNot to worry. I mount my home directory off another server. This is my laptop. Only 60gb hd on it. My home directory is getting close to 3.5 TB. The server it sits on has about 6tb of storage atm12:30
scizzojesuel: ubuntu.se has not been known yet12:30
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jesuelscizzo: ill make sure i remember it. :)12:30
scizzojesuel: not sure where to go and tell people about it12:30
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linuxn00bxamdm, shorewall is running on the one i'm using now which is also the one i'm tyring to connect to12:31
xamdmlinuxn00b, so this one is connected directly to the internet ??12:31
linuxn00byes its directly connectred to the internet (eth0) and eth1 is my local so my other PC get internet12:32
jesuelscizzo: on your screenshot...uhm what is that in the bottom right hand corner?12:33
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scizzojesuel: ?12:34
xamdmlinuxnoob, ok thne we don't need a forward, just allow the port from internet, for example Action accept, source zone any, protocol tcp , destination ports 888812:34
dmoyneI have a question regarding characters blocks under /dev ; can anybody help me12:34
scizzojesuel: that is a desklet for rhythmbox12:34
jesuelhow do you load that?12:34
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scizzojesuel: hmmm...its a addon for desklets....you install a application called gdesklets and then load it from there12:35
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dmoyneI have a question regarding characters blocks under /dev ; can anybody help me ?12:36
Seveasdmoyne, maybe. Just ask :)12:36
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krestenjesuel: I have 40GB HD available on my laptop and 512MB RAM. My friend told me that he would double the swap partition (to 1024MB). But how much space should I preserve for the OS?12:37
krestenjesuel: Is 10 GB too much?12:38
dmoyneok this is as a matter of fact very simple : should I want to create a premanent link from /dev/intu/js0 onto /dev/js0 how doI proceed to get that set all the time at boot12:38
linuxn00bxamdm, well it's still the same resule12:38
xamdmlinuxnoob, the clients on eth1 are able to connrct to interne ??12:38
linuxn00bxamdm, yup :)12:38
xamdmlinuxnoob, what kind of internet connection ??12:39
ellokofonkerany one know the ubuntu spanis channel?12:39
jamin_lAnymore ideas on how to get SoundJuicer to rip to mp3? Got packages: gstreamer0.8-mad, gstreamer0.8-lame, glame. Getting error: "Could not create GStreamer encoder ((null))12:39
linuxn00bxamdm, adsl12:39
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Seveasdmoyne, add it to /etc/udev/links.conf12:39
linuxn00bjamin_l, use grip and install lame12:39
jamin_lgrip doesnt even recognize the CDROM12:39
jamin_lalready have lame12:39
jamin_land grip for that matter12:39
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linuxn00bit should did you make sure it's point to /dev/cdrom ?12:39
xamdmlinuxn00b, did jou restart the shorewall ??, maybe a nother firewall also running ??12:40
jamin_lthat's the problem12:40
jamin_lit's set there... and it doesn't recognize the CDROM12:40
dmoyneSeveseas : you mean simply as a command line to be executed ?12:40
linuxn00bxamdm, yeah I did I clicked on "apply confguration"12:40
xamdmlinuxnoob, if still fails try firestarter firewall, it uses a nice gui12:40
Seveasdmoyne, no12:40
linuxn00bok i'll try firestarter12:40
Seveascheck the syntax of the filke12:40
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wtd_Error: Unable to initialize [/dev/cdrom/] 12:41
dmoyneseveseas then how you "add" it to this file ?12:41
wtd_ok... i am jamin_l until my ghost dies12:41
Seveasdmoyne: add the line L js0 /dev/intu/js012:41
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Nermalwtd_, /msg nickserv ghost jamin_l <password> ?12:42
wtd_not registered12:42
Seveasdmoyne, to open the file: type sudo gedit /etc/udev/links.conf12:42
linuxn00bxamdm, I don't see what I need to do in firestarter12:42
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dmoyneSeveas:  thanks I will do it do you accept another question as I am just a begginner (old Mandrake addict) with Ubuntu ?12:43
Seveassure :)12:43
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wtd_wel durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr that's the problem: /media/cdrom0 is where the CDROM is12:44
Solatis_ok, i give up, i'm simply not able to get nvidia-1.0.6629 working on my hoary installation :'(12:44
wtd_frelling thing12:44
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xamdmlinuxn00b, my pizza arrived, did jou open the gui ??12:44
linuxn00bxamdm, yup :) what kinda pizza?12:44
dmoyneok  throgh the boot procedure I have 2 error messagesrelated to 2 modules shpchp and pcichp that cannot be loaded as I get the error message "permission not allowed" that is nonsense in roor mode ?12:45
Seveasdmoyne, that is a very common error which in fact is harmless12:45
Seveasto prevent it: sudo gedit /etc/hotplug/blacklist12:45
Seveasand add a line containing shpchp12:45
wtd_frell it ...12:45
wtd_no disc12:45
Seveasand one containing pciehp12:45
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jamin-ldo we have any brick walls in here i can bash my head on repeatedly?12:46
xamdmlinuxn00b, hawai12:46
dmoyneyou mean that those are very likely useless and ca be ignored ?12:46
Seveasyes dmoyne, they are useless and harmless12:46
linuxn00bxamdm, mmmm pizza!!!!12:47
xamdmlinuxn00b, so jou told firestarter which interface is local an whichone is internet ??12:47
linuxn00bxamdm, yup I did12:47
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jesuelscizzo: thx12:47
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dmoyneyou are the king of wisdom of ubuntu !12:48
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Seveaslol dmoyne, no way :)12:48
dmoynethanks for your help I will put this into practice before reappearing on this chat room12:50
Seveasgood luck!12:50
xamdmlinuxn00b. ok ther is are three buttons status, rules, an  the lastone i dont know in english, choose rules an then create new rule ore something that sounds like that12:50
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xamdmsorry, just rightclick in the forwarding window12:51
jamin_lok i'm really confused -- my CD contents are not at /media/cdrom012:51
linuxn00bok, I added anything I could that seemed like someting that would forward the port12:51
xamdmand choose new rule12:51
jamin_land i don't have a /dev/cdrom12:51
jamin_lwhere the freaking hell is my CD mounted?12:52
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linuxn00bjamesh, odd you should have a cdrom :-s12:52
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jamin_li know i have it because SoundJuicer sees it12:52
jamin_land i can see the icon on the desktop12:52
jamin_li can't see the freaking thing12:52
TFPwhich version of the kernel is hoary using?12:53
wezzer-jamin_l: did you solve your problem?12:53
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jamin_li solved one problem and found another12:53
wezzer-see /mnt/cdrom12:53
jamin_li tried that12:53
wezzer-if you are looking for your cdrom drive12:53
Seveasjamin_l, can you paste the output of the command: mount12:53
wezzer-check if it is mounted12:53
jamin_ler i'll paste in a PM so i don't spam12:54
Seveasor use pastebin.com :)12:54
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xamdmlinuxnoob, is it working ??, is there a router ores somrthing before your pc ??12:55
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linuxn00bxamdm, no it's not working :( there is no router before my pc12:56
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sihenhello all12:57
Seveashello sihen12:57
xamdmlinuxnoob,if jou remove any firewall, does it work then ??12:57
sihenposible someone could help me out, when i mount /dev/hda3 /mnt/winblows it totally crashes my system12:58
linuxn00bxamdm, I dunno lemme check12:58
sihenNTFS file system12:58
sihenI need to mount my other hd's12:59
linuxn00bxamdm, same results :(12:59
Seveassihen, what do you mean by "crashes my system"12:59
xamdmlinuxn00b, then there is something else that blocks us, what kind of connection do jou use, how are the devices called ??01:00
sihenSeveas,  mouse is gone cant exit x cant do anything, a reset button is needed01:00
linuxn00bI use DSL what do you mean what are the deviced called?01:00
jamin_lheh i had the same problem with Woarty01:00
Seveassihen, what are the last messages from dmesg after you try to mount?01:00
jamin_lcouldn't pin it down to a single program so upgraded Hoary01:01
Seveasoh wait... reset01:01
Seveasno dmesg then :)01:01
jamin_lnow i have a whole new ball of string to play with01:01
xamdmlinuxnoob, ok so ppp0 is internet and eth1 is lan (so DSL is connected to eth0) correct ??01:01
pnghow do u mount sihen ?01:01
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Seveassihen, what are the last lines from /var/log/kern.log01:02
Seveasthey should indicate something...01:02
Seveasif they don't: try mounting with:01:02
linuxn00bI dont use ppp001:02
Seveasmount -t ntfs /dev/hda3 /mnt/winblows -o "ro,fmask=0333,dmask=0222,user"01:02
xamdmlinuxnoob, just tell me what jou see if typing ifconfig (as root)01:02
jamin_lSeveas, testing my own knowledge, could you get the last lines with: cat /var/log/kern.log ??01:02
xamdmlinuxn00b, how do jou connect to dsl then ??01:03
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Seveasjamin_l, yes you can with that, but I meant the actual dmesg command (see also what i typed before)01:03
jamin_lah what does dmesg do?01:03
linuxn00bjust a cat5 cable to my pc and a regular line to the wall01:03
Seveasdisplay all kernel messages since the last reboot :)01:03
linuxn00bxdm I see eth0 eth1 and lo01:04
xamdmlinuxn00b, i never saw such a setup for dsl, do jou have a static ip ?01:04
linuxn00bnahh they give me a dynamic one01:04
xamdmlinuxn00b, isn't ther a splitter ??01:05
linuxn00bumm I think so it outside of the house01:05
xamdmlinuxn00b,how do jou connct to internet, ??01:06
xamdmlinuxn00b, i mean pppoe ore another protocol01:06
linuxn00ba dsl modem...01:06
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xamdmok, what kind, how is it connectd to jour pc01:06
sihenlets try01:06
linuxn00bI have no clue I just plug it in and im good to go01:06
jamin_li give up for tonight01:06
Seveasit's 1 pm :)01:07
linuxn00bxamdm, umm modem > pc >  switch > winXP(3)01:07
sihenroot@Enigma:/home/sihen # mount -t ntfs /dev/hda3 /mnt/winblows -o "ro,fmask=0333,dmask=0222,user"01:07
sihenmount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda3,01:07
sihen       missing codepage or other error01:07
sihen       (aren't you trying to mount an extended partition,01:07
sihen       instead of some logical partition inside?)01:07
sihen       In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try01:07
sihen       dmesg | tail  or so01:07
Seveassihen, so your windows partition is not /dev/hda3....01:07
xamdmlinuxn00b, what is zmm ??, mine is connected via ethernet and uses the pppoe protocol01:08
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xamdmumm i meant01:08
linuxn00bI was guessing ;)01:08
pngsihen, sudo fdisk -l  /dev/hda .. what u see?01:08
linuxn00bI don't know what protocol it uses hahaha01:08
sihenSeveas,  trying to figer it out, i have 3 x hd's in this machine 2 x ide's and 1 x SATA. I have managed to mount my win install drive which was hda1. im trying to mount/find the other storage hd.01:08
linuxn00bit just works and I like it :)01:09
Seveassihen, do what png says01:09
Seveassudo fdisk /dev/hda101:09
Seveassudo fdisk /dev/hda201:09
sihen   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System01:09
sihen/dev/hda1   *           1        5099    40957686    7  HPFS/NTFS01:09
sihen/dev/hda2            5100        9537    35648235   83  Linux01:09
sihen/dev/hda3            9538        9729     1542240    5  Extended01:09
sihen/dev/hda5            9538        9729     1542208+  82  Linux swap / Solaris01:09
Seveassudo fdisk /dev/sda101:09
xamdmlinuxn00b, i don't undestand how this is done, how do jou tell it which conectiondata it should use ??01:09
pngur ntfs partion is hda1 not hda301:09
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linuxn00bconectiondata?? I dont my modem just has 2 port and phone and a ethernet01:10
siheni should have 2 NTFS IDE hd's01:10
hank_Hey all, anyone know If I can use apt-get to install linux-wlan?01:10
Nermalsihen, hdb ?01:11
pngsihen,  type sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdb, or hdc or hdd .. find ur exact partion.. then try to mount.01:11
xamdmlinuxn00b, how is this configured, how does jour prvider know that it is jou and not any other user ??01:11
Seveastry sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdb01:11
Seveasand also sudo -l /dev/sda01:11
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xamdmlinuxn00b, ther must be a kind of configuration01:11
Nermalhmm.. bzipping a 4.7 gb file taking a while01:11
linuxn00bxamdm, oh they just ask for my MAC addy01:11
siheni have mounted hda1 successfully but that is just my windows install files. i need to mount the other ntfs hd cause all my mp3s etc sits on there01:11
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Smevendoes anyone know what driver is needed for a integrated 4-in-1 media reader in a laptop?01:12
xamdmlinuxn00p, strange, in germany things work just a little other..01:12
linuxn00bxamdm, odd well atleast we both get internet :)01:12
sihen   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System01:12
sihen/dev/hdb1               1       18182   146046883+   7  HPFS/NTFS01:12
sihen/dev/hdb2           18183       19457    10241437+   c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)01:12
xamdmlinuxn00b, did jou ever try to connect to any other os from internet, i think jou used windows before ??01:12
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siheni think hdb1 is it01:12
sihenso to mount it i should use?01:12
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alfatauhi, i installed linux onto my asus M6822NEBP notebook, and i have some problems: first i can't get the battery support, but i was able to solve it following instructions found on tuxmobil.org; second, when turning off the laptop, i'm obliged to keep pressed the power key. I get the message: Power down. acpi called off. what can i do, or to what is due this behaviour??01:13
Seveasmount -t ntfs /dev/hdb1 /mnt/winblows -o "ro,fmask=0333,dmask=0222,user"01:13
pngsihen mount /dev/hdb1 and look inside it01:13
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p-foxi dont suppose there's anyone here who can help me out with doing some modification to the clearlooks engine? (or know where)01:13
linuxn00byeah my XP boxes can connect to the internet just fine :)01:13
xamdmlinuxnoob, i meant the other way round01:13
xamdmlinuxn00b, i belive that the problem is jour internetconnection01:14
linuxn00byou mean my linux box connecting to the net?? (it's 4:15 am been up since 5am) haha01:14
linuxn00bxamdm, I don't think it is because it used to work fine untill my gf spilled her drink all over the router a few days ago haha01:14
sihengot it :) ta, now the hard part, how do i mount a SATA drive01:15
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xamdmlinuxnoob, just slow for me, whichj computer is connected to the modem01:15
hank_Heya, anyone had any experience with linux-wlan?01:15
Seveasfirst try: fdisk -l /dev/sda101:15
hank_can I use apt-get to install it?01:15
Seveashank_, yes01:15
SeveasI run wlan now :)01:15
linuxn00bxamdm, my linux box is (the one i'm using now)01:15
xamdmlinuxnoob, u just said the bad word router01:16
hank_Ooo, How'd ya install it?>01:16
xamdmis it a hardware router ??01:16
Seveashank_, you meen the linux-wlan-ng driver?01:16
xamdmis thisone doing the connection ??01:16
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linuxn00bxamdm, yeah I was a linksys befsr4101:16
linuxn00bthat thing was build tought IMO hahaha01:16
hank_I don't know, I guess the utils and the drivers01:16
Seveashank_, so you just mean "a wireless connection"01:16
Seveaswhich wifi card do you have?01:17
xamdmlinuxn00b, do jou still use this router ??01:17
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sihenroot@Enigma:~ # fdisk -l /dev/sda101:17
sihenroot@Enigma:~ #01:17
hank_Yeah, I tried Ndiswrapper on my card. Im pretty sure that worked but I cant get a connection going. Maybe soething wrong with the windows side?01:17
pngsihen, sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda ;01:17
pngsihen, sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda01:17
linuxn00bxamdm, nope it doesnt work since it got water spilled all over it and I decided to set it up in flames muahahahaha01:17
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hank_seveas, I have an excell 9-2.11b01:18
hank_oops, 802.11b01:18
Seveashank_, so you still have ndiswrapper installed?01:18
Seveaswith windows drivers?01:18
xamdmlinuxn00b, ok, so now the dsl-modem is connected to eth0, correct ??, and the other computers to eth 101:18
comcorWhats the media (cdrom, floppy, etc..) automounting junk that ubuntu uses?01:18
NermalI do too :)01:18
linuxn00bxamdm, that is correct :D01:18
Seveascomcor: pmount01:18
hank_I think so, THe wireless deal says 100% signal stregth but the windows side says nothing01:19
sihenroot@Enigma:/etc # fdisk -l /dev/sda01:19
hank_yeah with win drivers01:19
raghuwhen we access ftp folders through winscp ...it allos us to navigate through home and root...how to avoid this?01:19
xamdmlinuxnoob, hm, so which firewall are jou running at the moment ??01:19
sihenroot@Enigma:/etc #01:19
Seveashank_, can you paste the output of the commands "iwconfig" and "ipconfig" on pastebin.com or in a private chat01:19
linuxn00bwell I god shorewall and firestarter is in the taskbar01:19
sihenpng, any other idea's?01:19
Seveassorry, that last one is "ifconfig"01:20
xamdmlinuxnoob, ist shorewall still running ??01:20
pngsihen, sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb01:20
pngsihen, sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdc01:20
pngsihen, sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdd01:20
linuxn00bxamdm, yeah last I checked a few min ago01:20
hank_sssure, how can we private chat01:20
Nermalpng, it's a good job you're being nice01:20
NermalI'd have moved on to dd'ing the disk by now01:20
linuxn00bxamdm, yeah its running01:20
comcorSeveas, okay, I'm unfamiliar with that and will have to look at it further01:21
xamdmlinuxnoob, please stop shorewall and just use firestarter, because if firestarter allows 8888, and shorewall not..., jou know what i mean, don't jou01:21
comcorfor the moment, I would like to get my cdburner to open, though01:21
Seveaslol :)01:21
sihenroot@Enigma:/etc # sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdc01:21
sihenroot@Enigma:/etc # sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb01:21
sihenroot@Enigma:/etc # fdisk -l /dev/sdd01:21
sihenroot@Enigma:/etc #01:21
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linuxn00bxamdm, ok I stped shorewall and firestarter is started01:22
linuxn00bahhh still don't work01:22
sihenroot@Enigma:/etc # ls -l /dev/sd*01:22
sihenls: /dev/sd*: No such file or directory01:22
sihenroot@Enigma:/etc # cd /dev/01:22
sihenroot@Enigma:/dev # ls sd*01:22
sihenls: sd*: No such file or directory01:22
sihenroot@Enigma:/dev # ls s*01:22
sihensndstat  stderr  stdin  stdout01:23
sihencontrolC0  pcmC0D0c  pcmC0D0p  pcmC0D1p  timer01:23
sihenroot@Enigma:/dev #01:23
comcorThere is no disk in the drive, and its like it has it locked. dunno how to get it open, other than a paper clip01:23
Seveascomcor, what does mount say about the drive, mounted or not?01:23
comcorits not mounted01:24
comcoraccording to mount01:24
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Seveasand you cannot eject it using "eject"01:25
xamdmlinuxnoob, nmap tells me that all ports are open01:25
comcornope, or by the button on the front of the thing..01:25
Seveaswhat happens if you try to mount it?01:25
linuxn00bxamdm, all??? it should work then01:25
comcorits like it is locked01:25
comcor# mount /cdrom01:25
comcormount: No medium found01:25
Vishaakjehi, I've installed apache2, php and mysql. But when I try to connect to mysql from php it gives me this error: cannot load mysql extension, please check PHP configuration...01:26
Vishaakjedoes anyone know a solution for this?01:26
xamdmlinuxnoob, webmin is running on port 10000, if my ip was allowed i had been able to connect..., what is this on port 888801:26
linuxn00bits gnump3d it's a music server for a friend01:26
Seveascomcor, does a reboot help?01:26
linuxn00band he isnt gonna too happy when he finds out he cant connect hahaha01:27
comcorSeveas, it hasn't in the past..01:27
xamdmlinuxnoob, how does he connect, just via browser ore does he use a software ??01:27
Vishaakjethe manual tells me to install a software package named "PHP-MySQL" or similiar, but there isn't such a package in synaptic01:27
linuxn00bjust a browser anyone can connect to it01:27
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NermalVishaakje, try php4-mysql01:28
xamdmlinuxnoob, i als beleve that firestarter is not runnig at the moment, ther are hjust to many open ports01:28
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Seveascomcor, do you happen to have another OS installed or do you have a livecd at hand01:28
Seveasif so: boot the other OS or livecd01:28
linuxn00bwell it's started01:28
Seveasand try there01:28
linuxn00bI can see it in the top right of my screen01:29
comcorI will later, when I have the chance..01:29
VishaakjeNermal, can't find it in synaptic :(01:29
comcorthanks for your suggestions, though01:29
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comcorI will say I've never ran across this in "debian classic" ;p01:29
xamdmlinuxnoob, im able to connect to gnump, just http://jour ip:888801:29
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NermalVishaakje, just do apt-get install php4-mysql01:30
Nermala simple  aptitude search php |grep mysql gave me that01:30
linuxn00byeah I know it works that way but most people have it booked marked at incdb.kicks-ass.net:888801:30
VishaakjeNermal, thanks!01:30
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xamdmlinuxn00b, that also works, just doing it at this time01:30
paraxis there any place where I can download Ubuntu CD covers?01:30
skummichpiratebay? :>01:31
xamdmlinuxn00b, http://incdb.kicks-ass.net:8888/tagbrowse/album01:31
VishaakjeNermal, grr, error: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)01:31
Nermalclose synaptic ?01:31
Vishaakjeduh :P01:31
linuxn00bxamdm, I can't see anything haha01:32
linuxn00bmy own server hates me haha01:32
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Vishaakjeah, then he can't find the package01:32
Nermalwell its listed here01:32
VishaakjeE: Couldn't find package php4-mysql :)01:32
Nermalpeter@ubuntu:~$ aptitude search php4-mysql01:33
Nermalc   php4-mysql                     - MySQL module for php401:33
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xamdmlinuxnoob, just stop and then start firestarter again01:33
error_29good morning.  Has anybody had this problem-- in hoary, if I unzip files to the desktop, or download (with firefox) files to the desktop, they don't show up01:33
Nermalyou have universe and multiverse sources enabled ?01:33
linuxn00bxamdm, ok01:33
Nermalthough you shouldn't need them01:33
xamdmlinuxnoob, u shoul notice if someon tries to connect to jour server, the icon becomes red01:34
error_29I can't find the unzipped or downloaded files anywhere.  It's like the desktop folder is a black hole01:34
VishaakjeNermal, I'm kinda new to this :)01:34
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linuxn00bxamdm, yeah I noticed that it sayed red for a while eariler01:34
linuxn00bnow its just blue01:34
Nermalerror_29, don't they go to ~/ by default01:34
xamdmlinuxnoob, now it shoul change01:35
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linuxn00bxamdm, nope still blue01:36
error_29Nermal, nothing's going there, and I choose "desktop" in the dialogs01:36
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xamdmlinuxn00b, there is something wrong, ijust did a portscan,did jou allow everything ??01:36
error_29when I had firefox 1 in warty before, firefox did confuse desktop with "home" but that's not happening here.01:36
linuxn00bumm I don't think so01:36
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xamdmlinuxn00b, maybe u choose the wrong device (eth0 / eth1) for internet, there is ssh open and webmin .., an a few  more01:37
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linuxn00byeah I oped ssh and webmin and there thould be 2 others gnump3d and db I think01:38
Myrttiyou've got webmin open to the world?01:38
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linuxn00bMyrtti, it shouldnt be cause I dont see it in firestarter01:38
xamdmlinuxn00b, http (80), 6667 (irc), 443 445, 1434,01:39
linuxn00bxamdm, I dont know what the other 3 are01:39
MyrttiI've seen those01:39
Myrttican't remember what they are,though01:39
xamdmlinuxnoob, https, and sql01:40
error_29OK, this is weird- I can find the unzipped files with "search for files" -- but they don't show in nautilus otherwise.  They're not hidden.  They're just invisible!  anybody have this problem?01:40
linuxn00bahh ok I wonder where sql came from I dont remember installing it01:40
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SiRrUsgood morning guys01:40
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xamdmlinuxn00b, firestarter doesnt run on the correct devce !!, ure computer is open to the world..01:40
linuxn00bxamdm, WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!01:41
xamdmmaybe here is somone else who can hel jou ??01:41
xamdmWTF ????01:41
linuxn00bxamdm, What The F**k ;)01:42
linuxn00bxamdm, what does the port scan say now?01:42
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xamdmlinuxn00b, just a second01:43
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xamdmlinuxn00b, what did jou change ??, gnump is unreachable again ..01:45
linuxn00bI started shorewall again haha01:45
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xamdmlinuxn00b, only use one Firewall, so then stop firestarter, ore remove it01:46
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linuxn00bI did stop firestarter01:46
ddaaIs there a simple gtk2/gnome app to display a notification from a script/program?01:46
xamdmlinun00p, i don't know what todo next, maybe someonelse can help jopu01:46
VishaakjeNermal, well, I ran apt-get update and tried to apt-get install php4-mysql. But it still can't find the package01:46
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fade24hi newbee here, need help connecting 2 internet01:47
Vishaakjeupdate from deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu warty main restricted01:47
xamdmlinuxn00p, now everything is blocked again..01:47
fade24can anyone help?01:47
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linuxn00bxamdm,  yeah i'll check around later its almost 5am haha well i'm off to bed night, xamdm thanks for your help :)01:47
ddaaWhat I want to do is get a dialog notification every time a mail match a filter in evolution. Evo provide "run program" and "pipe to program" actions, so I would like the right program to hook in there.01:47
ograddaa: look at zenity01:48
linuxn00bxamdm, good they should be blocked :)01:48
xamdmsee jou01:48
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ograddaa: heh01:48
fade24hi newbee here, need help connecting 2 internet01:48
fade24can anyone help?01:48
xamdmhi fade24, jes i can01:48
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ograddaa: http://www.grawert.net/software/evonotify/index.html01:48
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ddaaogra: thanks, but that will not do it, I need something more explicit than 'you have mail'01:49
ograddaa: but it might be a base for your enhancements :)01:50
ddaa:) seriously, I'm in a "quick hack this crap I need for work" mode.01:50
ograheh, then go for zenity :)01:51
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xamdm@fade24 still need help ??01:51
VishaakjeSearch and you shall find :) solved it myself :P01:51
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theineHi, does anybody know a good bluetooth tutorial (ideally for Hoary)?01:54
skummichGoogle is your friend. [www.justfuckinggoogleit.com]  :)01:55
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ddaaogra: thanks, that's exactly what i wanted01:57
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theineskummich: I did, but wasn't entirely satisfied with the results01:57
theineskummich: but thanks for the hint!01:57
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error_29Is anyone having a problem with totem skipping, on every mp3, about a second into each file?02:00
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baserror_29, no. is it just with totem?02:01
erny_hello all i could appreciate your help with cups server ... i can not configure it02:01
error_29good question bas!  you're right, I should check more apps (when i get some...!)02:01
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skummichHello. My Name is skum :)02:05
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seby_hi, everytime when my ubuntu boot, i have to reconnect my router, so that i can get a connection to the internet. others computers like mac osx machine have no problems. any clues about that. something wrong with dhcp?02:08
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Zindardefine "reconnect my router"02:09
Zindarreconnect it how? what? why?02:10
basseby_, so your router gets misconfigured when you boot ubuntu? or doesnt ubuntu correctly connect to your router?02:10
membreyalo SiRrUs :)02:10
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seby_i got a smc router, when i boot my computer, i have to visit the router config page and manually have to reconnect to my isp02:10
seby_otherwise i dont get a connection to the internet02:10
membreyathat's a router problem then seby_02:10
SiRrUsmembreya good morning02:10
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seby_but mac osx and windows work fine with that02:11
membreyaonly 8 mb for downloads today....02:11
membreyait's getting SO light weight02:11
seby_only ubuntu got problems with it02:11
SiRrUs:) yeah it is02:11
membreyaseby_: if it truly is a router...then it shouldn't need your computer to connect it to the internet02:11
basseby_, what does your interfaces configuration look like after booting ubuntu? (/sbin/ifconfig)02:12
membreyagod I love ubuntu calender :P02:13
membreyacept that pic with the dude :|02:13
Myrttiyou men02:13
membreyashush Myrtti :P02:13
membreyamarch has a good bum :P02:14
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MyrttiI'll do a wallpaper with chocolate02:14
seby_bas, if i terminate eth0 and reactivate it again, it works too02:14
membreyaoh ...anyone else not able to use their "hibernate" ?02:14
seby_but it doesnt just work after boot up02:14
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seby_i can connect to the router, but not to the inet02:15
membreyaseby_: is it broadband or dial up with the router?02:15
seby_dial up02:15
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SiRrUscoffee time brb02:17
basseby_, how do you "terminate" eth0 and reenable it in ubunty? /etc/init.d/networking restart?02:17
membreyak SiRrUs :)02:17
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seby_ifdown eth0 && ifup eth002:17
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Upayavir1Hi all. I'm getting "tar: A lone zero block at XXXXX" whenever I try to untar something. Different XXXXX for each tar file. Any ideas anyone?02:18
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membreyalo tritium02:19
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tritiumhi membreya :)02:19
SiRrUsnothing like a coffee when the temp is so cold02:20
SiRrUshello tritium02:20
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tritiumHello SiRrUs!02:20
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membreyaSiRrUs: where in canadia are ya?02:22
SiRrUsBarrie Ontario  30 mins north of Toronto02:23
membreyaaaah...french cannuck huh :P02:23
SiRrUsNope :)02:23
membreyamy ex-gf and kid live in Vancouver eh :)02:23
SiRrUsPretty much all English around here02:24
SiRrUsoh yeah Vancouver is ok02:24
membreyareally? hmmmm far as I knew all east coasters were french canadian02:24
membreyaand lumberjacks :D02:24
Hannes_vancouver is cold02:24
SiRrUsnot all of us02:24
Burgundaviavancouver is not cold02:24
SiRrUsVancouver is warn02:24
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SiRrUscompared to here02:24
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membreyaI work all day and I sleep all night02:25
SiRrUsI like golfing rather then chopping trees02:25
Burgundaviaah, you poor east coasters02:25
Hannes_-7C here now02:25
SiRrUsThe east coast is like 1000 miles from here02:25
membreyaI cut down trees and eat my lunch and go to the lavatory..02:25
membreyaon wednesdays i go shopping02:25
membreyaand have buttered scones for teaaaa02:25
SiRrUswe like thinking of ourselves as being in Central Canada :)02:25
Burgundaviaand dress up in womens underwear02:25
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Burgundaviajust like my daddy did02:26
Hannes_but hey, school from 8.15-16.45 yay02:26
supertedHannes_: haha, where do you go to school?02:26
SiRrUs-15c here02:26
membreyai put on womens clothing and hang around in bars, i wish id been a girly, just like my dear papa02:26
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HiddenWolfmembreya: ??02:27
membreyaSiRrUs: yes...it's true.. I'm tonedeaf :(02:27
membreyayes HiddenWolf ?02:27
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SiRrUshello picole02:28
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SiRrUsmembreya this isnt getting real boring02:28
membreyaim sorry SiRrUs :(02:29
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picolei wanna ask when the hoary release,can you tell me?02:29
jesuelmuch better02:29
SiRrUsno I mean everything is working for me ;)02:29
membreyanext month apparently picole02:29
membreyaoh ok :)02:29
membreyatime to move to a new distro that's bleeding edge? :P02:29
xamdmis gnome 2.10 jet in hoary ??02:29
membreyableeding edge = getting cut lots02:29
membreyaxamdm: yes02:29
SiRrUslol dont think so02:29
picolei am a guy from Shanghai02:30
xamdmmembreya: thx02:30
membreyatrying to pick up picole ? :P02:30
membreyanp xamdm02:30
xamdmwill i have problems  with upgrade from warty (using backports)02:31
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picolei am waiting for gnome2.10,but i saw the gnome release plan,as if today is the gnome2.10 release,am i right?02:31
membreyapicole: gnome 2.10 has been trickled to hoary over the last few days :)02:32
picoleo,i see,thanks02:32
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picoleanyone who have been Shanghai,i am studying at Tongji University02:33
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Fator_DeeI might move to asia in the future, if the software patents in EU fuck up everything :-p02:34
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Fator_Deeshould start learning chinese in university02:35
shockthose f****ing bastards are all bribed... everyone can clearly see that02:35
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shockhrhr I know02:35
shocku in?02:35
Fator_Deenope, been thinking about sending a mail02:36
Fator_Deebut I have mailed my countries mep though02:36
picoleme too,when i go to gnome.org02:36
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picolethanks,guys.i love this place,and i love ubuntu too.02:39
SiRrUspicole and we all love you :)02:39
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picolei will always be here later02:40
Fator_Dee"Even jesus- uses Ubuntu, why won't you too?"02:40
picolexiexie,this is Chinese02:40
picolesee you02:40
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Xappewhat is a normal hdd temperature range for an ibook g3? think mine is getting to warm when running Hoary. I get 47-50C from hddtemp...02:43
Xappeand it feels quite warm on the outside02:43
membreyawhat about cpu temp Xappe ?02:44
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Xappemembreya, don't think it's that high. cat /proc/cpuinfo gives around 30C uncalibrated02:45
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BiteMeBillA typical range would be -40C (-40F) to 70C (158F). Clearly few users will have a problem with these numbers.02:46
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BiteMeBillThat was a copy and paste.02:46
membreyaIve had my amd64 3200 running at 120 degree celcius when the CPU fan wasn't connecting properly :P02:47
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Xappewell, another strange thing is that I never hear the fan either, and I'm sure that worked when I had OSX installed02:48
BiteMeBillXappe: Disregard what I pasted. I completely disagree with it..  Misread ot.02:48
BiteMeBillot = it02:48
BiteMeBillXappe: Software shouldn't be stopping your fans.02:49
XappeBiteMeBill, well ok. I'm not that familiar with laptops. Started to use this one yesterday...02:50
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BiteMeBillXappe: I've had some laptops that there was no way I was going to put in on my lap.02:51
BiteMeBillJust too hot for my flesh.  LOL02:51
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arun--clear looks engine is in the updates02:52
BiteMeBillXappe: http://www.heatsink-guide.com/content.php?content=hdd.shtml02:52
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milezcan anyone tell me how to modify the default gdm input language?02:55
milezbecause i seem to be entering hebrew glyphs as my username and no key combination i try switches it to english.02:55
milezi reset all the environment variables and restart gdm02:55
milezand the problem persists.02:55
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arun--milez: did you try the gdm.conf under/etc/gdm?02:56
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milezarun-- , i looked at it02:57
milezand found nothing relevant.02:57
milezdid i miss anything?02:57
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siheny0 who wants to try help me get my SATA HD working? I have tried with png but we were unsuccessful03:03
sihenroot@Enigma:/dev # sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdd03:03
sihenroot@Enigma:/dev # sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdc03:03
sihenroot@Enigma:/dev # sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdd03:03
membreyait should be sda sihen03:03
sihenroot@Enigma:/dev # sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda03:04
sihenroot@Enigma:/dev #03:04
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membreyasihen: is your SATA drive detected at boot? ie do a dmesg03:06
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membreyahmm who here can help with grub menu ?03:06
membreyaI want to know what the quiet splash command is for ?03:06
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Burgundaviamembreya: quiet is so that the kernel doesn't spew its messages to stout03:07
membreyaaaah :)03:08
membreyaplaying with splash images :)03:08
Burgundaviato see the diff, boot into recovery mode (traditionally known as single-user mode)03:08
Burgundaviathat does not have quiet on03:08
Burgundaviaand note that quiet only applies to kernel, so you still get all the init stuff03:08
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sihenmembreya, can i paste to u in priv?03:09
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magaltavorhi can i have some help03:10
magaltavori have a problem03:10
Burgundaviawhat is your issue.03:10
magaltavori installed hedghug and i made one an update and now it gaves me error03:11
kentmagaltavor, hedghug?  Do you meen Hoary?03:12
magaltavoryes sir03:12
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Burgundaviawhat kind of error?03:12
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magaltavorW: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary/main Packag es (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_main_binary-i386_Pa03:13
magaltavorailed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary/restricted/source/S ources.gz  Bad header line03:13
sihenmembreya,  any idea man?03:13
Burgundaviamagaltavor: can you surf the web?03:13
magaltavorof course03:14
magaltavori can chat from the machine03:14
kentmagaltavor, are you sure you have updated the list of packages (refresh in Synaptic) or run "sudo apt-get update" from a terminal?  either one will do..03:14
Burgundaviaok, just checking03:14
magaltavorthe same03:14
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magaltavorcouls you please regiveme the offical url for apt- for update03:15
magaltavorso i can recheck them03:15
magaltavoror anything03:16
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kentmagaltavor, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GuideToHoary03:16
magaltavorcan anybody tell me what is this03:16
kentmagaltavor, make sure you get the Hoary lines correctly.   And then refresh the list of packages either in synaptic or Hoary. Then run "apt-get dist-upgrade" or upgrade from synaptic.03:17
magaltavorFailed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Bad header line03:17
magaltavorFailed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Bad header line03:17
magaltavorFailed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary/main/source/Sources.gz  Bad header line03:17
magaltavorFailed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary/restricted/source/Sources.gz  Bad header line03:17
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kentmercurus, do you use synaptic or apt  to update/install programs?03:20
kentmagaltavor, do you use synaptic or apt to update/install programs?03:20
kentdamn tabcompletion03:20
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kentmagaltavor, you could msg me your sources.list file (the repositories in synaptic).  That way I can see if it contains any errors.  (dont post the file here, that way people will be angry)03:22
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magaltavordeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary main restricted03:28
magaltavordeb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary main restricted03:28
magaltavor## Uncomment the following two lines to fetch major bug fix updates produced03:28
magaltavor## after the final release of the distribution.03:28
magaltavor## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe'03:28
magaltavor## repository.03:28
magaltavor## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu03:28
magaltavor## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to03:28
magaltavor## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in03:28
magaltavor## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security03:28
magaltavor## team.03:28
magaltavor#deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary universe03:28
Myrttimagaltavor: ever heard of /msg03:28
magaltavor#deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary universe03:28
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Fator_Deenot like this :-/03:28
magaltavordeb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary-security main restricted03:28
magaltavordeb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary-security main restricted03:28
magaltavor# deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary-security universe03:28
magaltavor# deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary-security universe03:28
Fator_Deepastebin, pretty please03:28
magaltavorMyrtti, i did it but missed something i ma sorrry03:28
magaltavorreally ssorry guys03:28
magaltavordid you saw them03:29
StoffBox-Stevehmm guys i installed Enlightenment, but can find an option to log into it!03:29
kentmagaltavor, yes. Im looking, but I cant see any errors :(03:29
magaltavorok i will check somthing now03:31
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cocoli have downloaded a new plashscreen...how to install it?03:33
scizzococol: use gconftool03:33
scizzococol: no03:34
cocoli will try gconftool03:34
scizzococol: Applications->Systemtools03:34
cocolhave to install it?03:34
cocolok thanks03:34
scizzoApps -> gnome-session -> options03:35
scizzoand that is the place with the splashscreen03:35
cocoliam in hoary03:35
scizzome too03:35
scizzoI have it there03:35
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jonosladen, PING03:36
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BrunellusI have a stupid question about xmms03:39
Brunellusubuntu wants to use totem to play back icecast streams03:40
Brunellusand I want it to use xmms03:40
raydogg``right click on the file03:40
raydogg``open with03:40
BrunellusI have successfully made xmms the default CD player03:40
Brunellushere's the thing, though03:40
Brunellusif I copy the location and put that through xmms, I should hear the stream, right?03:40
raydogg``is it over samba ?03:40
sihenmembreya,  here?03:41
Brunellusno.  I'm trying to play a stream off the internet03:41
Brunellusone of the ones listed on icecast.org03:41
raydogg``i see, i've never done that03:41
scizzoBrunellus: open location03:41
raydogg``I have a .pls for that and i associated the .pls with xmms and it plays shoutcasts03:41
Brunellusscizzo:  I tried open location, and I get nothing03:42
Brunellusso I'm wondering what I must be missing03:42
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BrunellusI open location, I hit OK03:42
Brunellusand nothing.  nothing in the playlist, no output.03:42
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scizzoBrunellus: what happens when you tell it to open location and what exactly do you tell it to open?03:43
kapput1I'm not able to open secure sites from firefox in ubuntu03:43
Brunellusscizzo:  I copy the location from the icecast.org list, like this:03:43
Brunellusfor instance.03:43
BrunellusI go to xmms, "play location" and put that into the dialog box03:44
scizzothat does not help03:44
Brunellusclick OK03:44
Brunellusand then nothing.03:44
kapput1is there any other alternative to the browser03:44
scizzoBrunellus: try to download the file instead03:44
scizzoBrunellus: vi file.m3u03:44
scizzoor just open it as normal03:44
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sihenroot@Enigma:/mnt # umount /mnt/winblows/03:45
sihenumount: /mnt/winblows/: not mounted03:45
sihenroot@Enigma:/mnt # mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb /mnt/winblows/03:45
sihenmount: /dev/hdb already mounted or /mnt/winblows/ busy03:45
sihenroot@Enigma:/mnt #03:45
scizzoBrunellus: if the server is using mp3 and so on then maybe you are missing the plugin that tells you that you can play mp3 and so on in xmms03:45
scizzoBrunellus: find the restricted formats in the wiki and make sure that you have that first03:45
Brunellusscizzo:  it didn't work on an .ogg03:45
scizzoBrunellus: after that try to add the playlist again03:45
Brunellusand I have the codecs from the restricted-formats wiki03:46
Brunellushowever, bizarrely, downloading and then playing them worked.03:46
scizzosihen: some user standing in the directory?03:46
scizzosihen: make sure that no terminal or something is using that searchpath...03:46
scizzosihen: to find out if the mountpoint is being mounted just type mount or df -h03:47
sladenjono: /me is on GPRS busy fixing a box somewhere.  can you repeat the question?  /msg is better03:47
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scizzoBrunellus: try to add the m3u file as a normal playlist then03:47
sihenscizzo,  i did a root@Enigma:/mnt # chmod 777 winblows/03:47
sihenwould that be preventing it from mounting03:48
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Brunellusyeah, that sounds like it might work.03:48
sihenroot@Enigma:/mnt # df -h03:48
sihenFilesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on03:48
sihen/dev/hda2              34G  1.7G   31G   6% /03:48
sihentmpfs                 443M     0  443M   0% /dev/shm03:48
sihennone                  5.0M  2.8M  2.3M  56% /dev03:48
tizensihen: do mount -t ntfs -o umask=0222 /dev/hd<blah> /mnt/winblows03:48
tizeninstead of chmod 77703:48
scizzosihen: like I said make sure that no terminal or something is using the mountpoint03:48
Brunellusscizzo:  no, it won't add as a remote location03:48
Brunellusthe stream will only be added if I download the ogg stream or the m3u stream, and add the file conventionally03:49
scizzoBrunellus: not as a remote location....download the file...and then try to add it with the addplaylist thingy03:49
Brunellusscizzo:  yes, that worked.03:49
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Brunellusit'll do as a workaround.  now I want to know how I can add a remote location without having to go through this03:49
scizzoBrunellus: then you have no problem more then the browser not knowing what player to use for m3u files03:49
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scizzoBrunellus: change the mimetype03:50
sihenroot@Enigma:~ # mount -t ntfs -o umask=0222 /dev/hdb /mnt/winblows03:51
sihenmount: /dev/hdb already mounted or /mnt/winblows busy03:51
Echylodamn, how do you unblock somebody in gaim?03:51
sihen/dev/dev/hdb    /mnt/winblows   auto    ro,user,noauto  0       003:51
scizzosihen: have you looked so that no one is using that directory?03:51
sihenthats what iv added to fstab03:52
Brunellusscizzo:  how do I change the mimetype?03:52
sihenscizzo, yes03:52
scizzosihen: that is wrong03:52
scizzo /dev/dev/hdb < ---- /dev/hdb03:52
sihenscizzo, what should it be?03:52
scizzonot 2 devs03:52
sihenhmmm me looks03:52
scizzoBrunellus: 2 ways.....there is some way to change it in GNOME don't remember where though03:53
scizzoBrunellus: and then you have mimetypes in the browser....03:53
Brunellusscizzo:  i'm listening.03:53
scizzoBrunellus: look at the prefs for the browser...look at google to find the mimetype definition and then tell it what to do03:53
scizzoBrunellus: often you can tell the browser to : open with : something03:54
Burn`is dvdrecord in the hoary tree?03:54
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sihenwhat is adm? it fails on boot03:56
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Brunellusscizzo:  OK, yes, that comes up when I click on the link to the stream03:57
BrunellusI can't find where xmmms is on the machine though03:57
BrunellusI installed it via synaptic03:57
scizzoBrunellus: whereis xmms03:57
scizzoBrunellus: in a terminal03:57
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scizzoor which xmms03:58
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scizzo /usr/bin/xmms03:58
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scizzowhat it seems like here03:58
scizzoremember that you can add special parameters for it also03:59
scizzo %s and so on I guess it is03:59
Brunellushuzzay.  that works!03:59
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scizzoglad to hear03:59
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sihenscizzo,  so how do i fix this prob :(04:01
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Fator_Deehow can I uninstall an application which I have compiled from source?04:02
xamdmmake uninstall04:03
Fator_Deemplayer, that is in this case04:03
oscarhis hoary rather stable by now or should i watch out?04:03
scizzosihen: ?04:03
jordanauis there an open terminal keystroke?04:03
Fator_Deexamdm: thank you04:03
xamdmfator_dee: np04:03
zimba-tmxamdm, is it possible to monitor install in case "make uninstall" does not exist ?04:03
Burgundaviaoscarh: hoary becomes stable april04:03
Burgundaviaoscarh: preview release in about 5-6 hours04:04
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xamdmziba-tm: i don't know04:04
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zimba-tmxamdm, ok thansk xou04:04
oscarhyeah but with warty, it was quite stable a month before release04:04
raggiHi!, i have some problem with my apache2, it is usig over 400mb ram !!! why !?!!!!!!!04:04
scizzojordanau: not standard...you can fix that with going System -> Properties -> Keystrokes04:04
jordanaugreat thanks04:04
scizzoraggi: stop screaming04:05
raggialright i will stop screaming, i just wondering why my apache2 is using so much ram... over 400mb :S04:05
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Fator_Deehahum... /bin/sh: -c: line 2: syntax error: unexpected end of file || make: *** [uninstall]  Error 2 || these came after I "unmaked" it, should I be worried?04:05
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xamdmfator_dee: this never happend to me, hm04:06
ronaldesaving a translation in rosetta fails with "A system error occurred." any clues?04:06
Fator_Deewell, mplayer won't start, so it did something :-)04:06
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xamdmfator_dee: ;-)04:07
Fator_Deebut there were other messages too, those were the last ones04:07
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scizzoraggi: memory leak?....look at the logs...04:07
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xamdmfator_dee: did jou run this as root ?? ore with sudo ??04:08
Thunderwoodif i could get my wireless network runnign life would be great04:08
raggihmm.... logs?04:08
Fator_Deexamdm: sudo04:08
sihenscizzo,  i still cant mount this drive04:08
xamdmfator_dee: then i don't know what happen04:08
jordanauthanks scizzo, i can now open it with control shift t04:09
raggiwhere would the logs be for apaceh2 ?04:09
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sihenscizzo, :(04:10
Fator_Deexamdm: well, I'll sacrifice a chicken and do some majick tricks, let's see what happens :-p04:10
jordanaurhthym box is really buggy isn't it?04:10
xamdmfator_dee. good luck, il go shopping, till later..04:10
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scizzosihen: what does the mount command tell you?04:11
scizzoraggi: /var/log/ somewhere?04:11
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raggihmm thx ;) i will check :D04:12
sihenscizzo, tells me its busy04:12
ronaldesaving a translation in rosetta fails with "A system error occurred." any clues?04:13
scizzosihen: but your fstab online also do a dmesg > /tmp/dmesg.log04:13
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[eDu] hi04:13
scizzosihen: and put both of them online04:13
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sihenput it online?04:14
scizzojordanau: rhythmbox works fine here04:14
scizzosihen: so I can see the logs and so on04:14
raggii dont find anything wrong with the logs :S04:14
scizzosihen: on a page04:14
scizzoraggi: ok....you get any errors when starting apache2?04:14
sihenscizzo,  can i dcc send? or mail?04:14
raggino :S04:14
schweebwhat's the ETA on the preview release today?04:14
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kapputuanyone here?04:16
Fator_Deejust barely04:17
kapputunot able to access secure sites04:17
kappututried with both mozilla and firefox04:17
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Burgundaviaronalde: try #launchpad or #rosetta04:17
ronaldeBurgundavia: thx04:18
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sihenscizzo, ?04:20
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Tuxadermistbleh still no adding launchers to the applications menus ?04:21
sihen Tuxadermist i add launches to the desktop and they just dont appear04:22
TuxadermistNot good04:23
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scizzosihen: not dcc04:24
sihenscizzo,  email?04:24
scizzosihen: I don't have time more then if I can get it online on a page to look04:24
sihenhold let me try04:25
scizzosihen: hmm...wait a sec04:25
scizzosihen: what does the line in fstab look like again?04:25
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sihen/dev/hdb        /mnt/winblows   auto    ro,user,noauto  0       004:27
scizzothat won't work well04:28
blackfeethi, i've a question about the ubuntu versions, whats the diffrence between hoary and warty? is it like sid and sarge in debian?04:28
scizzofirst you need to tell it which partition04:28
scizzohdb is the disk...but what partition?04:28
scizzoand the: ro,user,noauto is something I would consider04:28
scizzoI would use defaults,noauto in that case04:29
scizzothe auto thingy I would change to the correct filesystem: ntfs or whatever it is you are using04:29
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sihenscizzo, so can you give me the line to replace it?04:30
schweebblackfeet: warty is the current release, hoary is the release candidate... so right now, more like stable and sarge04:30
scizzosihen: no04:30
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scizzosihen: I don't know what partition you are using04:30
sihenscizzo, its NTFS?04:31
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scizzosihen: but what number in hdb?04:31
scizzosihen: look....hdb only tells me that you have a harddrive..04:31
sihenyes hdb04:32
scizzosihen: you need like hdb1 or hdb2 or something04:32
sihenso how do i find this info out04:32
schweebblackfeet: then when hoary is released, they'll create a grumpygroundhog (think that's the next name), so hoary will be stable and grumpy will be more like unstable, until they do the freezes, where it turns into more of a sarge04:32
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scizzosihen: cfdisk /dev/hdb04:32
blackfeetschweeb: i heared that hoary is using xfree and not xorg, is it true?04:33
scizzosihen: that will show you the partitions on that disk04:33
scizzosihen: with sudo that is04:33
schweebblackfeet: entirely untrue04:33
sihendev/hdb1               1       18182   146046883+   7  HPFS/NTFS04:33
schweebwarty is using xfree, hoary is using xorg04:33
scizzosihen: there we go04:33
blackfeetschweeb: ok, i think i will use an hoary ;) thx a lot04:33
scizzosihen: the line would be: /dev/hdb1   /mnt/winblows  ntfs  defaults,noauto  0  004:34
schweebblackfeet: if you wait a fwe hours, there'll be an official preview release CD for download04:34
scizzosihen: or something simular04:34
blackfeetblackfeet: from what? hoary?04:34
sihenso it should be /dev/hdb1       /mnt/winblows   auto    defaults,noauto  0       004:34
sihenoh ok cool04:35
schweebblackfeet: for hoary, yes04:35
scizzosihen: remove the auto and replace it with ntfs04:35
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sihenthink thats why it wont mount?04:35
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Bog1does ubuntu have a security team or working group?04:35
blackfeetschweeb: now no hoary is available?04:35
schweebthere are unofficial CDs, but the official preview will be published sometime today04:36
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blackfeetschweeb: oh, i think i have downloaded an official hoary live, is this possible?04:36
schweebbest to wait for that, so you can test it and make bugreports on it04:36
scizzosihen: try...I am not sure04:37
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wixtechXappe: how is your ibook doing? Is it still running hot?04:37
Fator_Deecan I have all 4 instances of automake (1.4, 1.6, 1.7, 1.8) installed without messing up my system?04:37
kapputuI'm not able to access secure webmail from firefox04:37
schweebblackfeet: don't think the final officials have been released... there are some near-final ones around, yes04:37
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scizzosihen: might happen that you need to reboot to get everything working as it should....but shouldn't have to...04:39
HiddenWolfblackfeet: the pre-release hoary's are being uploaded now, not yet official/stable, but it's the last landmark before it.04:39
Xappethis temperature thing is driving me nuts04:39
blackfeetHiddenWolf: perfekt, then i will wait for it ;)04:40
Fator_DeeXappe: be happy that it's not boiling your nuts :-p04:40
Thunderwoodso where can i go to find out how to get my damn wireless lan working?!?!?!04:41
schweebblackfeet: you could always install from what you have, but I figure, what's a few hours to wait so that you can fileb ugs on their official preview release, rather than an unofficial release where some of the bugs may have already been worked out04:41
XappeFator_Dee, blah ;) It's really hard to find what a normal temp of a ibook hdd is04:42
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sihenscizzo,  check this, i mount it in root and it works fine04:43
sihenusing user sihen i get04:43
sihen/dev/hdb1   /mnt/winblows  ntfs  defaults,noauto  0  004:43
sihenbut i have chmod 777 /mnt/winblows04:43
sihenroot@Enigma:~ # ls -ls /mnt/04:44
sihentotal 404:44
sihen4 drwxrwxrwx  2 sihen sihen 4096 Mar  9 13:40 winblows04:44
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scizzosihen: yes?04:44
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scizzoThunderwood: what is your problem exactly?04:45
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scizzoThunderwood: might be good to have a problem, error or something that we can base the problem on..04:45
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drspindoes anyone know what a good VECTOR graphics program is for linux04:46
sihenwhen i try access it with username sihen i get bash: cd: /mnt/winblows/: Permission denied04:46
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scizzodrspin: inkscape04:46
scizzosihen: yes...and you can access it with root04:46
Thunderwoodi don't even know where to start04:46
scizzosihen: that is the wonderful world of NTFS not good for use in Linux04:47
sihenyes and iv already done a chmod 777 /mnt/winblows04:47
scizzoThunderwood: is the card found?04:47
scizzosihen: *shrug*04:47
schweebsihen: what are you trying to do? write to ntfs?04:47
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Fator_Deehttp://sh.nu/~crimsun/mplayer/ <-- which one I should install if I have an AMD Duron?04:47
DazeD||laptopi get this wicked error when i try to run konqueror something about not being able to connect to the dcopserver04:47
sproingieis readonly ntfs reasonably stable?04:47
sihenschweeb,  not at all, im just trying to change permission on the mount dir so I can access it with other users besides root04:47
sproingiewould be nice to get the fonts off my ntfs partition04:48
sihenscizzo, thanks for all your help04:48
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tizensihen: try mount -t ntfs -o umask=0222 /dev/hd<blah> /mnt/winblows04:48
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Thunderwoodscizzo: how do i check that? I am assuming no because it says that there is no trace of a signal in the icon04:48
Echyanyone knows why after the update to hoary some parts of the menu are missing?04:48
tizensihen: that should work04:48
schweebsihen: man mount... look at the uid,gid,umask attributes04:49
tizensihen: or do you want to do it through fstab?04:49
scizzoThunderwood: dmesg | grep eth04:49
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tizensihen: I know it works because I do it that way04:49
schweebyea, what tizen said04:49
blackfeetdoes anybody know the historical background of the cool ubuntu releasnames?04:49
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sihentizen,  fstab would be better04:49
scizzoEchy: restarted gnome after upgrade?04:49
tizen/dev/hdb5       /Music          ntfs    defaults,umask=0222     1       204:49
tizenthats my line in fstab04:49
Thunderwoodwhat does that do?04:49
sihenschweeb,  the permissions where changed tho check this 4 drwxrwxrwx  2 sihen sihen 4096 Mar  9 13:40 winblows04:49
schweebit's the umask that matters, sihen04:50
tizensihen: not the files of the drive though04:50
tizensince you don't have access to change those permissions04:50
tizenread only04:50
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tizensihen: did it work?04:51
sihendev/hdb1       /mnt/winblows          ntfs    defaults,umask=0222     1       2 ?04:51
tizenthe dump and pass comments i'm not sure about04:51
tizenbut it works04:51
tizenput that in your fstab04:51
tizenand it should work04:51
schweebjust use 0 004:51
sapphirei was conected to the internet throught linux,  networked through another computer,  not that computer crashed,  and i can't get online with linux,  and i miss it so,  i dislike windows,  pm me if you can help me,  i will have to write it down as i am on windows now,  i am desperate04:51
sihenlet me try04:51
schweebtizen: those are for fsck'ing... set to 0 004:52
dazed_u on  lan or ppp?04:52
tizenk schweeb04:52
sihenok let me try04:52
schweebthe ntfs is read only, so it won't need to be fsck'ed04:52
scizzoThunderwood: it looks for the ethernet cards or something that is found on boot04:52
sapphireoh and i am new to linux04:52
scizzos/on boot/during boot/g04:52
tizenthanks schweeb04:53
sihensame thing04:53
sihensihen@Enigma:~$ cd /mnt/winblows/04:53
sihenbash: cd: /mnt/winblows/: Permission denied04:53
sapphireright now i am conncted straight to the dialup connection04:54
schweebsihen: you have to remount it after you add to fstab04:54
schweebumount /mnt/winblows04:54
Echyyes scizzo I restarted :)04:54
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schweebmount /mnt/winblows04:54
tizensihen: sudo umount /mnt/winblows && sudo mount /mnt/winblows04:54
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sapphiresomeone plaes pm me and help if you can04:54
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sihenit works *jump* up and down04:55
sihenthanks guys04:55
tizensihen: np04:55
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sihenanother quick thing, sound works perfectly but on skype when i call someone it saying ringing but i dont hear anything04:56
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tizenSorry, I don't know anything about skype04:56
tizencheck see in properties if you can specify and audio out04:57
Echyloow wait04:57
tizenan audio device i mean04:57
Nermalmaybe its the multimedia selector thing04:57
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Echyloit's gonna upgrade panel04:57
scizzoThunderwood: ?04:57
sihentizen,  /dev/dsp :)04:58
tizensihen: s'all i got.04:58
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jennychica123Is 'make dep' not needed anymore when compiling the linux kernel (in any distro) anymore?04:59
Nermalit's not04:59
sihenhow I start with the fight to get my SATA working, dont think its in the kernel04:59
Nermaljust make will automatically do that bit very quickly04:59
Nermalsihen, compile it into the kernel then04:59
jennychica123ah because of the newer gcc?04:59
Nermalthough I don't see why it wouldn't be04:59
Nermaljennychica123, no idea04:59
NermalI doubt it05:00
jennychica123hm ok thanks05:00
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sihenwhats a good mpeg and avi player?05:01
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[FiDO] is today the official release of gnome 2.1005:05
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Nakahhi, I have problems with suspend-to-ram and my laptop (Ibm T40p)05:06
Nakahcan somebody help me please ?05:07
meuserj|workAfter upgrading hoary today, sound will no longer work... is this a known issue?05:07
Myrttiwe're not mindreaders, so if you could tell a bit more about your problem, it might help05:07
NermalNakah, not surprised05:08
Nermalsuspend to ram is a bit dodgy still05:08
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Fator_Deehttp://sh.nu/~crimsun/mplayer/ <-- which one I should install if I have an AMD Duron?05:08
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meuserj|workI tried catting /dev/urandom to /dev/dsp, and I get static.. so from the OS level, sound is working.  But RB won't play.05:09
scizzo[FiDO] : yesterday was the release05:09
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Nakahthe "sleep.sh" is working, but when I restart the laptop the screen is freezed05:09
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eruinhow do I view changelogs for ubuntu packages?05:09
eruinanyone care to enlighten me? ;)05:09
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