[12:00] <LTk> Ill try then if must be come back ok
[12:00] <schasi> Try to log in there
[12:00] <andreas> Can anyone help me with gconf-editor?
[12:00] <dstevens> well that 386 to 686 kernel upgrade was very painless! :)
[12:00] <knucks> why is it this slow
[12:00] <schasi> TomAraya: There should be something like "warty" in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:00] <schasi> Replace that with hoary
[12:00] <WillCooke> snoop, good skills.  Right, now sudo ndiswrapper -i <not the autorun.inf> inf (that's INF not INI) file
[12:00] <schasi> And do an apt-get updated and an apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:01] <|M0rph|> anyone ? help with grub-install
[12:01] <schasi> Voila, youre done
[12:01] <geppy> knucks:  Are you running lots of other programs?
[12:01] <knucks> no..
[12:01] <knucks> just gam + firefox + this
[12:01] <geppy> knucks:  Perhaps your computer sucks.
[12:01] <andreas> geppy: Please... Will you help me?
[12:01] <WillCooke> snoop, sorry not meaning to sound patronising
[12:01] <geppy> knucks:  Complaining to us won't help.
[12:01] <knucks> its a 2.6
[12:01] <geppy> andreas:  What do you need help with?
[12:01] <knucks> with 512mb
[12:01] <andreas> geppy:gconf-editor settings
[12:01] <knucks> i think its more than enough to rip a cd
[12:01] <knucks> and my cdrom is a 52x
[12:01] <snoop_> willcooke,, no prob...i am a noob...
[12:02] <geppy> knucks:  Nope, you need at least a 400GHz processor to rip a CD.
[12:02] <schasi> TomAraya: You are aware that the update could break your installation?
[12:02] <geppy> knucks:  Sorry.
[12:02] <Fator_Dee> knucks: you could have something wtong with the rip settings
[12:02] <knucks> Fator_Dee: maybe
[12:02] <Fator_Dee> wrong even
[12:02] <geppy> andreas:  What settings?
[12:02] <WillCooke> snoop, I was a month ago!  You can pick this stuff up really quickly.
[12:02] <snoop_> willcooke,, alright installed..
[12:02] <TomAraya> schasi, I guess I'll take that chance.
[12:02] <WillCooke> snoop, sweet.  Now sudo ndiswrapper -l   - what's it say?
[12:03] <mrproper> Are there deb's for Java on Horay?
[12:03] <knucks> maybe my cdrom is screwed up under linux?
[12:03] <snoop_> willcooke, cool ..i hope so too...have to switch between windows and linux...
[12:03] <geppy> mrproper: In Universe, yes.
[12:03] <geppy> knucks: I doubt it.
[12:03] <mrproper> geppy, Sun's Java?
[12:03] <schasi> Well then go ahead. Did you read what i wrote you about how to do it TomAraya ?
[12:03] <andreas> Geppy: In Hoary setting the Apps/Gnome-session/options/splash_image to gnome_splashe.png (standard in Hoary) does not take effect when rebooting.
[12:03] <Scognito> does someone has tvout working on nvidia?
[12:03] <geppy> mrproper:  Yes, run an 'apt-cache search sun'
[12:03] <mrproper> TomAraya, Slayer...sweet.
[12:03] <TomAraya> schasi, switch all instances of Warty to Hoary.
[12:03] <TomAraya> in sources.
[12:03] <WillCooke> snoop, To be honest windows is still a damn site easier to use (but then I've been using windows for a lot longer than linux).
[12:03] <TomAraya> mrproper: \../
[12:03] <schasi> in /etc/apt/sources.list, thats right
[12:03] <snoop_> willcooke,, awesome...says "hardware present, fuzzy"
[12:04] <mrproper> geppy, Sun doesn't give me a jre
[12:04] <TomAraya> schasi, and then reboot?
[12:04] <WillCooke> snoop, Things like adding new hardware are really hard (for me) in linux, under windows  - daadaahhaa - installed.
[12:04] <geppy> andreas:  do you have gnome_splashe.png in the pixmaps directory?
[12:04] <WillCooke> snoop, sounds like we're getting there.
[12:04] <schasi> TomAraya: No
[12:04] <TomAraya> schasi, or just update in synaptic?
[12:04] <snoop_> willcooke, true i have to use it for school a lot,but it has been acting crazy nowadays..
[12:04] <giard> TomAraya: love the nick, btw
[12:04] <andreas> geppy: yes sir
[12:04] <schasi> TomAraya: You have to updated the packetlists and then do a dist-upgrade
[12:04] <TomAraya> giard: Thanks.
[12:05] <WillCooke> snoop, try a sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[12:05] <snoop_> willcooke, sometimes windows just works...
[12:05] <geppy> andreas:  Perhaps try overwriting the previous splash image?  It's generally easier than playing with gconf. =)
[12:05] <schasi> TomAraya: That would be a sudo apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade on the commandline. Find the same Commands in synaptic
[12:05] <schasi> Dunno how it is there
[12:05] <WillCooke> snoop, Annoyingly so!
[12:05] <andreas> will try
[12:05] <schasi> Really busy here
[12:06] <snoop_> willcooke, yea...ok done..gave me no output
[12:06] <holy_cow> does anyone know how to give regular users access to gnome cups manager so they can add/delete printers and print jobs them selves?
[12:06] <WillCooke> snoop, s'good!  do an iwconfig
[12:06] <schasi> WillCooke: But unter Linux they normally keep on working after you got them installed. I have different experiences with windows
[12:06] <geppy> mrproper: Perhaps you'll need to add another source.
[12:06] <TomAraya> schasi, thanks for the assistance.
[12:06] <mrproper> geppy, k
[12:06] <snoop_> willcooke,, it shows up now!!!
[12:06] <schasi> np
[12:06] <WillCooke> schasi, Very true.  For example moving a usb device from one port to another means a re-install of the drivers?  WTF?! ;)
[12:07] <WillCooke> snoop, sorted.
[12:07] <WillCooke> snoop, Now, in gnome go -> System -> Administration -> Networking (or something like that)
[12:07] <geppy> Why does Ubuntu not automatically enable DMA?
[12:07] <giard> geppy: I've wondered that myself
[12:07] <WillCooke> snoop, before we go on, have you got the wireless card AND a normal ethernet card in the same machine?
[12:07] <snoop_> willcooke, alright
[12:08] <Fator_Dee> it doesn't?
[12:08] <snoop_> willcooke, yup
[12:08] <geppy> Fator_Dee:  No. =(
[12:08] <|M0rph|> my grub boot loader stopped working after i created a new partition in windows. i've removed it and i'm trying to install it from ubuntu live cd ...
[12:08] <geppy> giard: Would it not be simple to test if the drive supports it?
[12:08] <Fator_Dee> how come I hadn't changet it on and it's on :-\
[12:08] <giard> geppy: I think it might be a stability thing
[12:08] <Fator_Dee> *changed
[12:08] <snoop_> willcooke, had to have both to download ndiswrapper...
[12:08] <WillCooke> snoop, This might get a bit bendy.  If you bring up your wireless interface and the eth0 you might get a loop on your network = bad
[12:08] <geppy> giard:  Aside from legacy hardware, why would it be unstable?
[12:09] <giard> geppy: you got me
[12:09] <snoop_> willcooke, okay dont want anyhting bad...what do i do?
[12:09] <dampjam> Are there video4linux packages available in ubuntu, I can't find them
[12:09] <WillCooke> snoop, Does you WiFI Access Point have a an enable dhcp server on it?
[12:09] <geppy> dampjam:  apt-cache search v4l
[12:09] <dampjam> ahh I was searching video4linux
[12:10] <snoop_> willcooke, um i believe so..in windows all you had to do was find it and type in the correct password..
[12:10] <geppy> dampjam:  Do you have universe enabled?
[12:10] <gilles> Is there a vga=xxx code I could set in the grub config so that I could have a resolution of 1280x800 for my large screen ?
[12:10] <WillCooke> snoop, do you have a dsl router or similar?
[12:10] <snoop_> willcooke, hava  cable router..
[12:10] <error_29> TomAraya, I just finished what I think you're trying to do -- haven't rebooted yet, but so far nothing's flagrantly busted.  Except my "Computer" menu is now missing about two-thirds of its entries
[12:11] <WillCooke> ls -lha
[12:11] <WillCooke> oops, wrong screen
[12:11] <geppy> 2.6.11 working for anyone?
[12:11] <error_29> anyway, rebooting, and keeping my fingers crossed...
[12:11] <snoop_> willcooke, ls -lha ?
[12:11] <WillCooke> snoop, right to be on the safe side unplug the ethernet cable from your wifi a.p
[12:11] <giard> geppy: I had a lock up when I tried it
[12:11] <dampjam> I have the universe and multiverse enabled
[12:11] <larsson> Just ran an dist-upgrade with hoary. Seems like it installed KDE 3.4 , but i get dependency problems with a KDE-app called "quanta" and "kdewebdev" and one more package. Is it only me or do you guys got the problem too?
[12:11] <giard> geppy: everything worked until I logged into X11, and then it froze
[12:11] <WillCooke> snoop, ignore that ls (i typed it in the wrong screen)
[12:11] <geppy> giard:  As did I, when I got to the desktop.
[12:12] <geppy> giard:  Yeah. =/
[12:12] <geppy> giard:  Do you think that they'll be fixing that, soon?  Or should I just build from source?
[12:12] <snoop_> willcooke, ok..unplug wifi router or thernet from computer?
[12:12] <Riddell> larsson: it's being fixed
[12:12] <WillCooke> snoop, just the ethernet from the access point
[12:12] <geppy> giard:  2.6.11 fixes ptrace issues that are necessary for copy-protection working with Cedega;  so I'm wanting to give that a try
[12:12] <giard> geppy: I think it might be an agpgart prob, did you try unloading that before logging in?
[12:12] <WillCooke> snoop, leave the A.P. switched on.
[12:12] <geppy> giard: Nah, should I?
[12:13] <giard> geppy: try it and see if it helps
[12:13] <larsson> Riddel: Ok, so i just wait and it will be fixed with the next dist upgrade? Everybody is getting it?
[12:13] <giard> I think it's a known problem
[12:13] <geppy> giard:  Alright;  just boot up 2.6.11, then go to a TTY and then unload agpgart?
[12:13] <Riddell> larsson: yes
[12:14] <giard> geppy: yeah, try that... I don't see it in bugzilla, so I'll add it
[12:14] <larsson> Ok thanks. So when was KDE 3.4 released?
[12:14] <jon1012> good night everybody :)
[12:14] <israel> hi there, which package should I re-configure in order to change my X resolution? I tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 but the options I get in the Gnome menu did not change... any clue?
[12:14] <larsson> NIghty.
[12:14] <geppy> giard:  Alright, cool;  just modprobe -r agpgart?
[12:14] <Xappe> giard, geppy try to boot it with the noinotify option. that should get it not to panic iirc
[12:15] <geppy> Xappe:  Do I need to set that with grub, and how would I do that?
[12:15] <WillCooke> snoop, oh, btw have you modprobe'd the ndiswrapper mod?
[12:15] <Riddell> larsson: next week :)
[12:15] <giard> Xappe: hmmm, I read that inotify was fixed...
[12:15] <giard> Xappe: maybe that fixes the hang too
[12:15] <larsson> Riddel: Haha, hoary rules!
[12:15] <giard> Xappe: not sure if the new version is in hoary
[12:16] <Xappe> giard, ok...I've only experienced the problem with the first 2.6.10-4 update
[12:16] <Fator_Dee> btw, does anyone else have a problem with trashapplet crashing?
[12:16] <Fator_Dee> in warty that is
[12:16] <larsson> Riddel: When do you think this quanta problem will be solved? I mean, are we talking weaks? days? hours?
[12:16] <Xappe> geppy edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:17] <Riddell> larsson: day or two
[12:17] <larsson> Edit with caution tough.
[12:17] <larsson> Oh, thanks.
[12:17] <geppy> Xappe:  And what's the flag for disabling inotify?
[12:17] <schasi> gn8
[12:17] <WillCooke> snoop, still there?
[12:17] <Xappe> geppy, noinotify
[12:17] <geppy> Xappe:  Thanks.
[12:18] <Xappe> geppy, i've not tried it myself, but that's what I've seen during my quite extensive forum surfing
[12:18] <geppy> Xappe:  Ah, alright. =)
[12:19] <Kirsch> hey guys, i have a laptop, and when i use my VGA out, it mirrors my display, is there a way to extend the desktop instead?
[12:20] <snoop_> willcooke, okay unplugged the ethernet cables from the wifi router but left it on
[12:20] <snoop_> willcooke,...sorry..
[12:20] <snoop_> willcooke, forgot the cable router was plugged in to the router
[12:20] <WillCooke> kirsch, Don't think so
[12:20] <WillCooke> snoop, ok, have you "modprobe"'d ndiswrapper yet?
[12:21] <snoop_> willcooke, okay got a cable router whih is plugged into the wfi router....i got the cord from that into the computer...
[12:21] <snoop_> willcooke, yea did that but it gave no output...
[12:21] <WillCooke> snoop, So you're A.P. is now turned on, but connected to nothing?
[12:21] <WillCooke> snoop, just in case do a "sudo rmmod ndiswrapper"
[12:22] <OsMasterFlex> Does anybody know how to stop the 'home' and 'end's keys from typing "F" and "H" everytime i press them
[12:22] <WillCooke> snoop, and then a "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper"
[12:22] <snoop_> willcooke, it is connected to the computer....have to try to make the
[12:22] <OsMasterFlex> i woudl ike them to go to the beginning and end of lines instead
[12:22] <WillCooke> snoop, if all goes well, there should be no output
[12:22] <esher> ( Operating System ) Linux Ubuntu 5.04 - hoary Kernel: 2.6.11-esh, GNU/Linux | Xorg: 6.8.2 | IRC CLient: X-Chat v.2.4.1
[12:22] <esher> yay, works :P
[12:22] <dampjam> I'm trying to run v4l-conf and it cannot find /dev/video0, is there a configuration step I have to go through to get that?
[12:22] <snoop_> willcooke, there was no output....
[12:22] <snoop_> willcooke, i have to go get the ap uncnnected and connect this to the cable router...
[12:23] <knucks> how do i view all my cdroms again?
[12:23] <WillCooke> snoop, OK, regarding your network, if it all goes quiet in a second, you'll know you've got a loop, so you can pull the ethernet cable from your machine
[12:23] <snoop_> willcooke, remove ndiswrapper??
[12:23] <OsMasterFlex> In Terminal, does anybody know how to make the 'home' and 'end' keys go to the end and beginings of lines
[12:23] <geppy> knucks:  try /etc/fstab ?
[12:23] <knucks> ah yeh
[12:23] <knucks> thanks
[12:23] <geppy> no problem
[12:23] <knucks> imma try my cdrw..
[12:23] <knucks> maybe thatll be faster
[12:23] <WillCooke> snoop, yeah, just to make sure, rmmod it and the modprobe it again so we know it's loaded with the new driver, and not a hang-over from the previous attempts
[12:24] <snoop_> willcooke okay,
[12:24] <giard> geppy: I've filed a bug report: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=7346
[12:24] <WillCooke> snoop, once you've done that , open up the network thingy via gnome
[12:24] <giard> geppy: if you could add comments about what you tried and if it worked, that'd be awesome
[12:24] <geppy> giard:  Alright; thanks!
[12:24] <snoop_> willcooke,, i rmmod 'ed iot...there was no output
[12:24] <geppy> giard:  I'm off to reboot, and see if noinotify does the trick. =)
[12:25] <giard> geppy: good luck
[12:25] <knucks> does LAME come w/ grip?
[12:25] <geppy> knucks:  no
[12:25] <knucks> where do i get it
[12:25] <WillCooke> snoop, That's good. there should be no output when you modprobe it either
[12:25] <snoop_> willcooke,, question about the network...doews the ap have to be unconnected now?
[12:25] <hitriko> what should i use to burn an iso?
[12:25] <Jerub> hitriko: cdrecord
[12:26] <snoop_> willcooke, current setup  line int > cable router >wifi router > line to this computer and wireles goin out.
[12:26] <djp> hitriko: what Jerub said
[12:27] <Kirsch> Also, Whenever i edit a file using gedit that goes over sftp, it only lets me do readonly, no write access, altho kwrite works, any ideas?
[12:27] <GhostFreeman> How do I get Ubuntu to recognize DDR memory
[12:27] <WillCooke> snoop, Essentailly what we want to do is bring the wifi interface up at the same time as your eth0 (ethernet cable).  If you A.P. is connected to the rest of your network a broadcast message would go out of your computer, to the cable router, out of the cable router in to the wifi router, out of the wifi router, in to the cable router, out of the cable router, in to the wifi router etc etc etc.  This is bad.
[12:27] <hitriko> where do i find it?
[12:27] <hitriko> sorry i'm a linuc noob -_-;
[12:28] <hitriko> Jerub: how do i open it and is text or GUI?
[12:28] <stuNNed> hitriko: right click the iso file and select 'burn to disc'
[12:28] <djp> hitriko: runs from command line
[12:29] <snoop_> willcooke, waitt i dont understand....the ap has to be unconnected but i can be connected to the cable modem, right?
[12:29] <knucks> do you know where ubuntu installs the lame executable?
[12:29] <geppy> giard: How do I comment?  Just write in the additional comments box?
[12:29] <knucks> i need the path
[12:30] <WillCooke> snoop, yes exactly.  You want your machine plugged directly in to the cable box and your wifi A.P. to be plugged in to the electric and nothing else.
[12:30] <tck> is there a tool to convert .avi's to another format
[12:30] <tck> is it possible ?
[12:30] <goldfish> it is possible
[12:30] <WillCooke> tck, have a look at mencoder, mplayer.  very good software
[12:30] <tck> mplayer wont work for me
[12:30] <snoop_> willcooke, alright i will be back in a second.......
[12:30] <tck> thats the problem
[12:30] <WillCooke> tck, What do you mean by "wont work"?
[12:30] <geppy> Xappe:  Thanks, that fixed it!
[12:31] <tck> i apt-get and it gives dep problems
[12:31] <Xappe> geppy, nice :)
[12:31] <geppy> =)
[12:31] <GhostFreeman> Do I need to make any special configurations to get Ubuntu to recognize my DDR memory?
[12:31] <knucks> ugh whys it this slow?
[12:31] <geppy> GhostFreeman: No.
[12:31] <knucks> is it slow for anyone else?
[12:31] <GhostFreeman> thanks
[12:32] <ThoSa> hey one short and maybe easy question. is it possible (how) to store the configuration of the unbuntu system from boot to boot?
[12:32] <Sparkle> http://nerdsyndrome.com/linuxdesktop/  <-- interesting :)
[12:32] <geppy> Speaking of which, I have three sticks of 512 RAM, and my BIOS is only detecting 886 megs.  What's up?
[12:32] <geppy> ThoSa:  What configuration?
[12:32] <geppy> ThoSa:  The desktop configuration of windows?
[12:32] <|M0rph|> root@ubuntu:/mnt/hda7/boot/grub # grub-install /dev/hda --root-directory=/mnt/hda7/
[12:32] <|M0rph|> cp: listing attributes of `//lib/grub/i386-pc/stage1': Unknown error 524
[12:32] <Sionide> who's an op in here usually?
[12:33] <ThoSa> geppy: printer configuration, desktop. more ore less all you change from config point of view
[12:33] <geppy> ThoSa:  That stuff _should_ stay.
[12:33] <ThoSa> geppy: stay where? i am booting from DVD
[12:33] <geppy> ThoSa:  oh.
[12:33] <geppy> ThoSa:  I don't know about the live version
[12:34] <ThoSa> geppy: ahh sorry. i missed to tell about live version
[12:34] <ThoSa> geppy: ok, thanks anyway. i will try again find info by usage of www.google.com
[12:34] <geppy> ThoSa:  Good thinking. =)
[12:35] <ThoSa> geppy: have a nice time. it is about 00:30 am and i will go to bed now..
[12:35] <geppy> ThoSa:  haha;  enjoy!
[12:35] <snoop> willcooke, i am back.........
[12:36] <Broncho> IM trying to connect to my desktop through ssh but everytime I try it says access denied while trying to connect. anyone know how to fix this?
[12:36] <WillCooke> snoop, good news!
[12:36] <WillCooke> snoop, are you running hoary or wary btw?
[12:36] <snoop> willcooke, warty
[12:36] <snoop> willcooke, the first version ...warty right?
[12:36] <JDahl> Broncho, do you have sshd running on the desktop?
[12:37] <WillCooke> snoop, yeah,.
[12:37] <snoop> willcooke, cool
[12:37] <Broncho> yes
[12:37] <WillCooke> snoop, right that networking thing I was talking about earlier, have you got that up?  It should show eth0
[12:37] <StoffBox-Steve> can someone help me :D when someone use quakenet.. plz join #bysteve or a few min. i whant L :) / sry for spamm :D
[12:37] <br-1> hello
[12:37] <gino4466> pivot_root: no such file or directory
[12:38] <br-1> directory
[12:38] <snoop> willcooke, got it...yea it dows..
[12:38] <Broncho> JDahl yes its installed
[12:38] <snoop> willcooke, * does
[12:38] <gino4466> sbin/init: 429: cannot open /dev/console: No such file
[12:38] <gino4466> kernel panic: attempted to kill init!
[12:38] <WillCooke> snoop, is there an "add" button? If so, click it.
[12:38] <br-1> what it says ?
[12:38] <snoop> willcooke, clicked!
[12:39] <devpotato> anyone up to may shed some light on sound issues Hoary Array 6?
[12:39] <devpotato> opps
[12:39] <geppy> devpotato:  What's the problem?
[12:39] <WillCooke> snoop, Is there a "wirless option"?
[12:39] <devpotato> no sound
[12:39] <devpotato> at all
[12:39] <snoop> willcooke, yea
[12:39] <br-1> do you know how to drive the emule soft 0.45 ????
[12:39] <devpotato> tried several things
[12:39] <devpotato> with no luck
[12:39] <WillCooke> snooper, OK, click that!
[12:39] <WillCooke> snoop, then a drop down box?
[12:39] <geppy> devpotato:  First, 'sudo apt-get install aumix'
[12:39] <WillCooke> snoop, click and select wlan0
[12:39] <geppy> devpotato:  Make sure that your sound channels are not muted
[12:39] <snoop> willcooke, got it..and i select wlan0, right?
[12:39] <WillCooke> snoop, spot on
[12:40] <gino4466> anyone know about my problem?
[12:40] <devpotato> geppy: can i see that with alsamixer?
[12:40] <snoop> willcooke, okay
[12:40] <tizen> devpotato: What sound card?
[12:40] <devpotato> audigy 2
[12:40] <geppy> devpotato:  Yeah.
[12:40] <tizen> I know that problem
[12:40] <devpotato> hmmm
[12:40] <Broncho> actaully now I ahve a new problem, I can login to my ssh with my desktops ip but I cant through my ip address and I do avhe port forwarding enabled
[12:40] <tizen> had it on a system
[12:40] <WillCooke> snoop, OK, I can't remember what comes next, what's it say?
[12:40] <tizen> devpotato: Install gnome-alsamixer
[12:40] <quarupt> why is it all sleppery?
[12:40] <devpotato> okely dokely
[12:41] <tizen> and in there, you'll have a check box with Audigy Analog or something
[12:41] <snoop> willcooke, address configuration...pick automatic or manual?
[12:41] <geppy> tizen:  Odd; what causes that?
[12:41] <devpotato> brb
[12:41] <WillCooke> snoop, use automatic
[12:41] <snoop> willcooke, okay
[12:41] <tizen> geppy: I dunno, but that little check box needs to be clicked or unclicked i forgot
[12:41] <WillCooke> snoop, what comes next?
[12:41] <tizen> i spent 2 hours on a system before i figured that out
[12:41] <snoop> it says apply and continue..
[12:41] <geppy> tizen:  Ah, alright. =)
[12:41] <geppy> haha
[12:41] <tizen> like even cat /dev/urandom > /dev/audio1 didn't do anything till that option is checked on or off
[12:41] <br-1> hey i can hept you
[12:42] <snoop> willcooke, clicked apply..
[12:42] <geppy> tizen:  Good thing you figured it out, then.
[12:42] <geppy> =)
[12:42] <br-1> i know very much about computers
[12:42] <WillCooke> snoop, OK, I think we're there.  If you do a "iwconfig" do you see the name of your wifi network?
[12:42] <tizen> geppy: hehe, my friend gave me a couple beer in exchange
[12:42] <The-Ghost|afk> lo
[12:42] <The-Ghost|afk> hmm
[12:43] <geppy> tizen:  hahaha =)
[12:43] <tizen> geppy: I get the whole 8pack if i can figure out his tv capture card problem
[12:43] <tizen> lol
[12:43] <The-Ghost|afk> what's wrong when it dosn't whan't to bot from hdd.
[12:43] <The-Ghost|afk> ?
[12:43] <geppy> tizen:  hahaha =)
[12:43] <tizen> devpotato: Work?
[12:43] <snoop> willcooke, no...bnut the wifi router is unplugged..
[12:43] <devpotato> no dice
[12:43] <tizen> seriously?
[12:43] <snoop> willcooke, unconnected i mean
[12:43] <WillCooke> snoop, from the mains? or the network?
[12:44] <geppy> Anyone in here run Cedega?
[12:44] <quarupt> wheres the produce section?
[12:44] <devpotato> geppy: last attempt at making this work - i hand built a kernel
[12:44] <snoop> willcooke, from the main...i am connected to the modenm now..
[12:44] <The-Ghost|afk> any one?
[12:44] <tizen> devpotato: Do you have any other speaker type hardware on your computer?
[12:44] <tizen> devpotato: do a ls -l /dev/audio*
[12:44] <Kirsch> is there a way to upgrade to Gnome 2.8.3?
[12:44] <tizen> and see what's there
[12:44] <devpotato> tizen: nope
[12:44] <devpotato> tizen: hold please :)
[12:44] <tizen> did you see that Analog option checkbox in the bottom?
[12:44] <WillCooke> snoop, as long as the A.P is powered up you should be ok
[12:44] <gino4466> modprobe: FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/2.6.10-686-smp/modules.dep
[12:44] <devpotato> tizen: no device
[12:44] <gino4466> :(
[12:45] <quarupt> Kirsch, why not go all the way to 2.10?
[12:45] <devpotato> tizen: but xmms looks like its playing
[12:45] <tizen> devpotato: hmm, does a lsmod show any emu10k1 ?
[12:45] <br-1> where are you from gino4466 ???????
[12:45] <devpotato> yes
[12:45] <gino4466> NJ
[12:45] <gino4466> why?
[12:45] <br-1> i am from argentina
[12:45] <quarupt> damn wino's
[12:45] <snoop> willcooke, okay...do i unplug the cable and put it into wifi router, and then plug in the router?
[12:45] <gino4466> okay...
[12:45] <geppy> devpotato:  heh
[12:45] <devpotato> geppy: yes indeedy
[12:46] <br-1> i it is nice there
[12:46] <Kirsch> quarupt: ?
[12:46] <WillCooke> snoop, just ensure the A.P. is powered up
[12:46] <snoop> willcooke, yup it is...
[12:46] <The-Ghost|afk> nobody knows?
[12:46] <devpotato> geppy/tizen - lsmod shows emu10k1_gp and snd_emu10k1
[12:46] <quarupt> Kirsch, you know anthing about wino-dev?
[12:46] <devpotato> geppy/tizen - fwiw this worked (kinda) under warty
[12:46] <WillCooke> snoop, Hmm. I would expect an "iwconfig" to show you the wifi network name, unless.....
[12:46] <Nekohayo> has someone tested (successfully) readahead in hoary? The package is in synaptic, but I didn't find a how-to
[12:46] <br-1> sorry about my engish
[12:46] <tizen> devpotato: do you have any results with ls -la /dev/dsp*
[12:46] <Kirsch> quarupt: nope
[12:47] <Xappe> oohoh, soon I hopfully have two Hoary comps in this room :) 30% left of install
[12:47] <WillCooke> snoop, do you have WEP enabled, or ESSID disabled at all?
[12:47] <devpotato> tizen: nope
[12:47] <br-1> i am argentino
[12:47] <tizen> devpotato: try a sudo ./.MAKEDEV in /dev
[12:47] <tizen> other than that, i'd have to say it's a kernel issue
[12:47] <snoop> willcooke, wep is enabled..
[12:47] <br-1> it is summer in Nj gino 4466
[12:47] <br-1> no ????????
[12:47] <WillCooke> snoop, Ah, that will probably be why.
[12:47] <The-Ghost|afk> okay.. get ubuntu isntald on my server but it dosn't bot..
[12:47] <snoop> willcooke, at iwconfig i see the wlan0 but not the name if the network..
[12:48] <esher> ( Sensors ) Temperature [ CPU: No Sensor found | System: No Sensor found ]  <- what package i need for linux to dislplay this (xlack script for xchat)
[12:48] <br-1> come gino
[12:48] <devpotato> tizen: done
[12:48] <br-1> come on gino 4466
[12:48] <WillCooke> snoop, do you know the hex value of your wep key?
[12:48] <gino4466> it's almost spring
[12:48] <tizen> devpotato: any new /dev/dsp* or /dev/audio* ?
[12:48] <devpotato> tizen: nope
[12:48] <snoop> willcooke, no idea
[12:48] <br-1> ahhhh
[12:48] <WillCooke> snoop, do you know the "password" wep key?
[12:48] <br-1> do you have the messenger ????????
[12:48] <tizen> devpotato: i dunno, sudo modprobe emu10k1 is about all i can think of trying
[12:49] <devpotato> ok
[12:49] <tizen> see if anything changes
[12:49] <WillCooke> snoop, the text you used to set the wep key?
[12:49] <devpotato> tizen: thanks
[12:49] <snoop> willcooke, no...i know the password...
[12:49] <devpotato> tizen: will give that try (again)
[12:49] <tizen> but with the default kernel that check box was the problem
[12:49] <gino4466> no
[12:49] <snoop> willcooke, the text?....no idea..
[12:49] <br-1> i give you ????????
[12:49] <tizen> devpotato: i had read about it in a fedora msg board
[12:49] <dstevens> Hi all, does ubuntu have a root check kit ?
[12:49] <tizen> so, i don't know if it's a 2.6.x thing
[12:49] <br-1> it is the 7.000.642
[12:50] <tizen> dstevens: chkrootkit is in synaptic
[12:50] <WillCooke> snoop, go here -> http://www.csgnetwork.com/wepgeneratorcalc.html
[12:50] <br-1> for windows 98, me, xp
[12:50] <gino4466> can anyone help me with this kernel panic i'm getting? i thought it was because the module that my SATA drive needs wasn't being loaded, but i still can't get it to work
[12:50] <gino4466> i'm running ubuntu...obviously
[12:50] <devpotato> tizen: my last try at making this work (which is what i'm currently running) is a handbuilt kernel with the emu10k1 built in
[12:50] <dstevens> tizen, ok cheers.
[12:50] <devpotato> tizen: so no module
[12:50] <WillCooke> snoop, scroll down to the "Custom WEP Key (all legal ASCII characters accepted)" section
[12:50] <br-1> ohh
[12:50] <devpotato> gar
[12:50] <snoop> willcooke, okay
[12:50] <tizen> devpotato: Ah, makes sence... I dunno... Drop back to the old kernel and try that checkbox
[12:50] <tizen> maybe your custom kernel thing is broken somehow
[12:51] <WillCooke> snoop, type your password in to the "manual" box
[12:51] <geppy> When are nvidia drivers going to come out for 2.6.11?
[12:51] <br-1> gino 4466, do you have the driver
[12:51] <WillCooke> snoop, and hit "calculate custom key"
[12:51] <geppy> Running 2.6.11 for copy-protection issues doesn't do much good if you don't have GLX. =/
[12:51] <devpotato> tizen: thanks
[12:51] <devpotato> will keep banging on it
[12:51] <tizen> devpotato: Yeah, I'm on my way out... That's what I had to do to get it to work on that other system... Good luck
[12:51] <snoop> willcooke, okay
[12:51] <tizen> geppy: When he comes back, let him know i'm gone if he asks.
[12:51] <tizen> if you're still here
[12:52] <geppy> tizen:  Will do.
[12:52] <WillCooke> snoop, at the bottom you'll see a HEX key, copy this to the clipboard (ctrl-c)
[12:52] <snoop> 6a6f736570687334 okay
[12:52] <WillCooke> snoop, oops.  Don't tell everyone your password!
[12:52] <snoop> yea...i will change it..
[12:52] <snoop> forgot i had it in my ctrl c
[12:53] <WillCooke> snoop, :) Right... do this..
[12:53] <socomm> Pffff, not l337 enough.
[12:53] <WillCooke> snoop, sudo iwconfig wlan0 <your essid name> <that hex key>
[12:54] <windows-farhan> i so want to install ubuntu.. lol
[12:54] <windows-farhan> it sounds so nifty...
[12:54] <br-1> hola estadounidenses putos
[12:54] <socomm> I so want to install Microsoft Windows ... lol
[12:54] <windows-farhan> lol
[12:55] <Kennyjb402> lol
[12:55] <socomm> It souns like a masochist wet dream.
[12:55] <snoop> willcooke, says unrecognized..
[12:55] <windows-farhan> i have a linux box so ..to diskingwish myself
[12:55] <xybrie> i dot have the original windows
[12:55] <drspin> anyone wanna help me with a sound problem real quick?
[12:55] <xybrie> bill gates ass old
[12:55] <WillCooke> snoop, join #snoop
[12:56] <windows-farhan> hmm
[12:56] <The-Ghost|afk> hmm
[12:56] <goldfish> hmm
[12:56] <xybrie> the real quick is a shitt
[12:56] <The-Ghost|afk> any one whant to help?
[12:56] <The-Ghost|afk> ore can help
[12:56] <The-Ghost|afk> ?
[12:56] <windows-farhan> i do thing hoarry has speakup support. at least it should
[12:56] <windows-farhan> think
[12:56] <windows-farhan> cause its in the univese package list
[12:56] <windows-farhan> universe
[12:56] <socomm> Why is speakup a must have?
[12:56] <drspin> I just want to know what I should dpkg-reconfigure after I modprobe my sound drivers...
[12:56] <socomm> I need to know.
[12:57] <windows-farhan> i'm blind need speakup to install
[12:57] <stuNNed> how can i tell if my rythmbox is using xine or gstreamer?
[12:57] <esher> how can i load a module (i2c) that is compiled bei "m", but i dont know the real name of it .. i see it only in my .config
[12:57] <windows-farhan> i'm currently using debian
[12:57] <windows-farhan> and am debating on wasting a cd on ubuntu that may not work
[12:57] <xybrie> where are you from socomm ?????
[12:57] <drspin> OR I would like to know why I'm only getting sound out of one side and static out of the other?
[12:57] <HrdwrBoB> wasting a CD?
[12:57] <windows-farhan> ye
[12:57] <HrdwrBoB> you mean less than 50c worth of CD
[12:57] <HrdwrBoB> wow
[12:57] <schweeb> stuNNed: in the about dialogue, I believe
[12:58] <socomm> xybrie: sri lanka.
[12:58] <drspin> windows-farhan: you can also order one off of the website...but I think it's Hoary only
[12:58] <xybrie> where is that ???
[12:58] <stuNNed> HrdwrBoB: hi! how to tell if my rhythmbox is using gst or xine?
[12:58] <xybrie> i am from argentina
[12:58] <windows-farhan> the reason why is before i do this. i need to get speakup support it in there or
[12:58] <windows-farhan> something
[12:58] <HrdwrBoB> stuNNed: it uses gstreamer
[12:58] <stuNNed> HrdwrBoB: aha! thanks :D
[12:58] <socomm> Doesn't Ubuntu have that "We'll send you a CD, so you don't have to waste on" thingamajig going?
[12:58] <windows-farhan> i mean i see it in the package list so it is included on the cd?
[12:58] <windows-farhan> i downloaded the iso
[12:58] <schweeb> socomm: yes
[12:59] <schweeb> but it takes a while to ship
[12:59] <windows-farhan> if craps in the package list is it  on the cd?
[12:59] <windows-farhan> its a 2.4 kurrnel
[12:59] <windows-farhan> speak up is
[12:59] <gino4466> anyone...please...kernel panics up the ass..please help
[01:00] <schweeb> windows-farhan: if speakup is in universe, it is not on the CD
[01:00] <windows-farhan> i tried to get the livecd of that gnome enabled..oh
[01:00] <schweeb> windows-farhan: which distro are you currently running?
[01:00] <windows-farhan> the livecd of with gnopernicus
[01:00] <The-Ghost|afk> hmm what to do when the cd whan't to bot?
[01:00] <The-Ghost|afk> ops the computer.
[01:00] <windows-farhan> debian
[01:00] <The-Ghost|afk> whant's to bot
[01:00] <The-Ghost|afk> after instaling Ubuntu on it
[01:00] <The-Ghost|afk> ?
[01:00] <windows-farhan> take the cd out/
[01:00] <windows-farhan> ?
[01:01] <The-Ghost|afk> i did take the cd out.
[01:01] <schweeb> windows-farhan: which branch? stable/testing/unstable ?
[01:01] <The-Ghost|afk> get msg no cd etc..
[01:01] <windows-farhan> unstable
[01:01] <The-Ghost|afk> no bot etc.
[01:01] <windows-farhan> well put the cd bag in
[01:01] <windows-farhan> back
[01:01] <The-Ghost|afk> ye then it will start instaling agein
[01:01] <windows-farhan> put it in when the messag apers
[01:01] <schweeb> windows-farhan: you could conceivably dist-upgrade to ubuntu
[01:01] <windows-farhan> message appears
[01:01] <windows-farhan> really
[01:01] <windows-farhan> how?
[01:02] <The-Ghost|afk> it's in
[01:02] <schweeb> windows-farhan: although the results may not be perfect
[01:02] <windows-farhan> oh..
[01:02] <windows-farhan> how anyway?
[01:02] <schweeb> same way you dist-upgraded to unstable
[01:02] <schweeb> add the ubuntu sources, apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:02] <windows-farhan> interesting...
[01:02] <windows-farhan> i don'tno
[01:02] <schweeb> or
[01:02] <schweeb> another option
[01:02] <schweeb> use debootstrap
[01:02] <windows-farhan> wait
[01:03] <gino4466> that sounds like learning spanish by having a spaniard yell at you for an hour
[01:03] <windows-farhan> can't someone just compile an iso with speakup 2.4 in it right quik?
[01:03] <gino4466> but that's just me :-P
[01:03] <windows-farhan> quck?
[01:03] <windows-farhan> quick?
[01:03] <The-Ghost|afk> windows-farhan same msg.
[01:03] <The-Ghost|afk> ops start screan
[01:03] <The-Ghost|afk> ubuntu
[01:03] <windows-farhan> wierd
[01:03] <schweeb> I've not used speakup ever, nor do I know any details about it
[01:03] <windows-farhan> its just a patch. lol
[01:03] <windows-farhan> http://linux-speakup.org
[01:04] <windows-farhan> all i want is an iso at the boot prompt i can type speakup speakup_synth=keyword
[01:04] <windows-farhan> and it will start talkin
[01:04] <hou5ton> in Synaptic I don't see a package named Gimp-Print???  I thought there was supposed to be a package named that, so I could print photos from Gimp???
[01:04] <windows-farhan> cause i have an external speech device
[01:05] <windows-farhan> if someone made an iso like that. it would b nice. lol
[01:05] <schweeb> you could invest some time and figure it out yourself, heh
[01:06] <windows-farhan> or incorperate a 2.6 to speakup .lol i'm to busy for that
[01:06] <Xappe> array 6 install on my ibook g3, so far so good :) now i'm waiting for the packages configuration
[01:06] <windows-farhan> hmm
[01:09] <joshua> Hey.  I need to install xp on my other hdd realy quick.  And since it installs it's bootloader w/o prompting, I need to know.  How would I go about installing the grub boot loader without completely reinstalling ubuntu?
[01:10] <Lightstar> How do i get the sound working?
[01:10] <zenrox> joshua,  thare is a way (i dont know how) but have hope
[01:11] <joshua> Heheh, thanks zenrox. :)
[01:11] <Blissex> Lightstar: starting from scratch?
[01:12] <Quest-Master> joshua: I've done it before
[01:12] <R0bNyc> Anyone has the mplayer-plugins?
[01:12] <schweeb> joshua: your choices are boot from knoppix, or boot from a linux installer cd
[01:12] <Quest-Master> joshua: It is quite easy. Follow the instructions on http://www.ubuntuguide.org/
[01:12] <mrproper> Does anyone know why the dbus version in Horay is so old?
[01:12] <joshua> Thanks, Quest-Master
[01:12] <schweeb> joshua: then run grub-install again
[01:12] <Quest-Master> schweeb: There's an even easier way at UbuntuGuide
[01:12] <Quest-Master> schweeb: Not needed
[01:13] <Quest-Master> R0Nyc: Yeah.. they can be installed through: sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer
[01:13] <R0bNyc> Quest-Master, thanks
[01:13] <R0bNyc> firefox?
[01:13] <schweeb> Quest-Master: ... that does the same thing, I just said, in different words...
[01:14] <schweeb> boot from a linux installer cd... run the grub shell, manually install
[01:16] <Xappe> hmm, so...what's the HorizSync and VertRefresh on an ibook g3?
[01:22] <Lightstar> How can i get sound in ubuntu? Gnome doesn't find my soundcard where are the preferences for the sound card?
[01:23] <SlipAway172> why is ubuntu is so popular in www.distrowatch.com with 1800 hits per day
[01:24] <zenrox> Lightstar,  look in the sound and video for volume controle
[01:24] <zenrox> SlipAway172,  its casue of the couminty it created
[01:25] <zenrox> SlipAway172,  i like it casue of the help i receved using it ( and i have bine using linux for 4 years)
[01:25] <SlipAway172> but it isnt well settled
[01:25] <SlipAway172> only one release
[01:25] <Lightstar> zenrox, gnome doesn't find any mixers..
[01:25] <rape> hello
[01:25] <zenrox> SlipAway172, and a new releace in may
[01:26] <zenrox> Lightstar,  you have a isa sound card??
[01:26] <SlipAway172> when like mandrake or suse ( very good OS) have released about 10+
[01:26] <zenrox> SlipAway172,  ya but ubuntu is going for 1 releace every 6 months
[01:26] <Lightstar> zenrox, i have ESS card
[01:27] <zenrox> SlipAway172, have you read the forums
[01:27] <zenrox> Lightstar,  is that and isa card
[01:27] <fsc_> i got some very odd error/msgs from updating to hoary.
[01:27] <zenrox> SlipAway172, or the wiki
[01:27] <Lightstar> zenrox, i don't know think so
[01:27] <fsc_> can i paste them here for someone to tell me what went wrong?
[01:28] <zenrox> Lightstar,  white slot or a blake slot that its pluged in to
[01:28] <Lightstar> white
[01:28] <zenrox> ok then is pci and pnp
[01:29] <zenrox> Lightstar,  do a sudo modprobe sb
[01:29] <zenrox> then try to play a sound
[01:29] <Lightstar> zenrox, ok.. i shall try.. see if that works.. hope so =)
[01:29] <zenrox> ok
[01:29] <LinuxJones> fsc, paste in pastebin.ca then post th link
[01:30] <geppy> giard: If you're here, tizen left.
[01:30] <fsc_> http://pastebin.ca/7048
[01:31] <aschart> im running the live CD but my resolution is 640X480 and my printers dont work. Is that cause im just running off the CD?
[01:31] <fsc_> and after that it stops, i dont know if it means its finished. I just installed linux for the first time.
[01:31] <pipeline> aschart: Printer configuration in linux is hell in any case.
[01:31] <pipeline> aschart: The 640x480 thing is probably easier to resolve.
[01:31] <Lightstar> zenrox, hey it worked! Thx =)
[01:32] <zenrox> Lightstar,  now we need to do more
[01:32] <zenrox> Lightstar,  so hold on and dont reboot
[01:32] <Lightstar> zenrox, ok..
[01:32] <aschart> ok thanks. any suggestions?
[01:33] <LinuxJones> fsc, try apt-get upgrade again
[01:33] <fsc_> that means doing it from top_
[01:33] <fsc_> ?
[01:33] <zenrox> Lightstar,  you need to do a sudo gedit /etc/modules and add the line at the bottem sb and thats it save the file and it will work after a reboot as well
[01:33] <fsc_> because if it is, ill do it tomorrow
[01:33] <pipeline> aschart: Read the torrents of documentation.  BSD-style printing supports hardly any printers.  CUPS is hell to setup.  Most printers aren't even supported under linux.
[01:34] <pipeline> aschart: The graphics thing will probably prove trivial, don't even worry about it.  If you know what your graphics card is and you know what the maximum resolution / refresh rate of your monitor is, you should be fine.
[01:34] <LinuxJones> fsc, no just type it again in console
[01:34] <zenrox> but pipeline  who need to print
[01:34] <fsc_> done
[01:34] <fsc_> LinuxJones, no error messages.
[01:34] <pipeline> zenrox: I need to print all the time.  But I own a sane and reasonable PCL-capable printer that doesn't require "drivers"
[01:34] <aschart> pipeline: oh that sucks. it has my printer in the setup list so i just assumed it should work lol
[01:35] <pipeline> aschart: Say lol to me again and I'll just ignore you.
[01:35] <Lightstar> zenrox, thanks for the help!
[01:35] <LinuxJones> fsc, good that happens sometimes
[01:35] <zenrox> pipeline,  ya thats good but my printer works but networken it with smb/ and or the cups protical is a pain
[01:35] <fsc_> so it is compatible now_
[01:36] <LinuxJones> fsc, looks that way
[01:36] <pipeline> zenrox: CUPS is a pain in the ass.  Windows supports lpd printers.  My home network looks like 1989.
[01:36] <l00p> Is Brian Cairns here?
[01:36] <fsc_> alright, great, i am gonna hop into bed now. Thanks for the quick walk through!
[01:36] <aschart> dang dude my bad, too much aol
[01:38] <zenrox> pipeline,  join the club  but at least thay like to talk to each other and one like to send me my x packets so i can run a progam on it and save my ram and have it displayed on this one
[01:39] <LinuxJones> all of my Gnome icons have disappeared from the menus, also the keyboard only prints 1 character if I hold down any key... :(
[01:40] <zenrox> LinuxJones,  restart the xserv
[01:40] <zenrox> alt+ctrl+backspace
[01:40] <l00p> Is there a gnome wireless applet?
[01:40] <zenrox> l00p,  yes
[01:40] <LinuxJones> zenrox, yeah I am upgrading right now will do in :30 secs
[01:40] <zenrox> LinuxJones,  then thats all you need to ho
[01:40] <zenrox> ho=do
[01:41] <LinuxJones> zenrox, I thought you called me ho there for a second :P
[01:42] <l00p> Zenrox, How do I install it?
[01:42] <theine> Hi, are there any bluetooth user space applications in main?
[01:46] <LinuxJones> zenrox, same problem wth is going on :(
[01:46] <milez> hello.
[01:47] <phosphorgreen> does anyone know when the new look ubuntu website from the competition is going live?
[01:47] <phosphorgreen> the current layout is poo
[01:48] <jordanau> hey phosphor green you helped we with my wireless yesterday, i got it set up thanks
[01:48] <jdub> phosphorgreen: possibly for hoary release.
[01:50] <Xappe> hmm, feels like the ibook gets really warm when running Hoary...what could I do about this?
[01:50] <Xappe> I hear no fans starting whatsoever
[01:59] <SneakyMonkey> hello I was wondering if someone could help me out with a problem with my install?
[01:59] <SneakyMonkey> of Ubuntu
[01:59] <zenrox> SneakyMonkey,  whats going one give more info
[01:59] <airox> Offcourse.
[02:00] <SneakyMonkey> I have installed Ubuntu on a Pentium 200mhz cpu
[02:00] <zenrox> SneakyMonkey,  ya
[02:00] <airox> Go on :)
[02:00] <SneakyMonkey> the install went fine but once I tried to boot I would come to the LInux screen
[02:00] <GhostFreeman> Anyone have any XMMS .EQF presets?
[02:00] <SneakyMonkey> it would what I think is try and load the GNOME login screen
[02:01] <SneakyMonkey> and the monitor goes black
[02:01] <airox> Ai...
[02:01] <airox> SneakyMonkey: How long did you waited ?
[02:01] <SneakyMonkey> about 4 minutes
[02:01] <SneakyMonkey> I have a feeling it is something to do with the graphics card
[02:01] <SneakyMonkey> but I was hoping I might get some help here too
[02:02] <airox> Could be, the computer itself isn't very fast to...
[02:02] <zenrox> SneakyMonkey,  how much ram
[02:02] <SneakyMonkey> 128
[02:02] <zenrox> hmm it can
[02:02] <zenrox> whats the gfx card
[02:02] <SneakyMonkey> well a 256 stick just it only registers as 128
[02:02] <zenrox> SneakyMonkey,  thats cause the mobo only supports 128
[02:02] <SneakyMonkey> let me go see
[02:03] <SneakyMonkey> yeah I relized that
[02:03] <zenrox> lol
[02:03] <zenrox> i bet it ran 95 just fine
[02:03] <zenrox> lol
[02:04] <SneakyMonkey> S3 Trio 64v
[02:04] <SneakyMonkey> well 98 :p
[02:04] <rever> Can someone give me a hand. I just installed Ubuntu to my system but am unable to boot into a gui.
[02:05] <rever> My video card is an Nvidia 6600GT
[02:05] <rever> on agp
[02:05] <SneakyMonkey> go to the fourms and you should find an answer
[02:05] <drspin> I think I may put windows XP back on this machine and go back to doing graphic design for a living :/
[02:06] <drspin> still have my Ubuntu on my other system ;)
[02:06] <zenrox> SneakyMonkey,  you might have to install the nvidia drivers?? dont think so might be a config error with montor and/or gfx card
[02:07] <zenrox> and i dont know about a s3 trio
[02:07] <SneakyMonkey> well that is what the chipset says on the card
[02:07] <zenrox> rever,  read www.ubuntuguide.org for nvidia driver setup
[02:07] <SneakyMonkey> I believe it is before the days of nvidia
[02:07] <milez> um
[02:07] <zenrox> SneakyMonkey,  thats what i was thinking
[02:07] <rever> zenrox, Ok Thanks
[02:07] <zenrox> too
[02:09] <SneakyMonkey> I know I have Slackware 10.0 on another system that has a not so powerful card and that runs GNOME 2.6 fine
[02:10] <SneakyMonkey> I could swap cards
[02:10] <zenrox> SneakyMonkey,  if you can give it a shot
[02:10] <zenrox> then go tharu the install agine
[02:10] <SneakyMonkey> would there be any problem with just trying to boot with the new card in
[02:11] <SneakyMonkey> and hoping Linux sees the difference in the boot process
[02:11] <airox> 'hoping' :)
[02:11] <SneakyMonkey> well I had to take a CD ROM out of an other computer just to install it
[02:12] <airox> hehe
[02:12] <airox> It's worth it ;)
[02:12] <SneakyMonkey> as you can probably tell the 200mhz machine has a lot of failing hardware
[02:12] <zenrox> SneakyMonkey,  youd have ot reconfigure  ubuntu
[02:12] <sleeper> hi
[02:12] <zenrox> it be easer to just reinstall
[02:12] <airox> hi sleeper
[02:12] <sleeper> i need some help please
[02:12] <SneakyMonkey> curses
[02:12] <zenrox> at this point SneakyMonkey
[02:12] <sleeper> ti uninstall 1 program manually
[02:13] <airox> sleeper: Go right ahead.
[02:13] <airox> You lost me already.
[02:13] <sleeper> sudo apt-get ..................
[02:13] <sleeper> ?
[02:13] <SneakyMonkey> well thank you for the help
[02:13] <sleeper> i ned remove mldonkey
[02:13] <airox> sleeper: You want to delete software ?
[02:13] <sleeper> yes
[02:13] <zenrox> SneakyMonkey,  you know whare to look
[02:13] <SneakyMonkey> I shall try these things and see if there are any improments
[02:13] <SneakyMonkey> I love IRC
[02:13] <airox> sleeper: Did you installed it with apt-get ?
[02:14] <sleeper> yes
[02:14] <airox> (or from a debian package)
[02:14] <jesuel> 200mhz...sllllow
[02:14] <airox> Do you want to delete the configyration files also ?
[02:14] <sleeper> with apt-get install
[02:14] <airox> configuration ...
[02:14] <sleeper> yes
[02:14] <sleeper> y want remove all
[02:14] <mdke_laptop> does anyone know if the wiki's can have multiple parents?
[02:14] <airox> apt-get --purge remove mldonkey
[02:15] <sleeper> mmmmm
[02:15] <sleeper> airox:it dont work
[02:15] <airox> sleeper: sudo apt-get --purge remove mldonkey
[02:16] <sleeper> airox: dont work
[02:16] <sleeper> dont find
[02:16] <airox> Don't find what ?
[02:16] <sleeper> mldonkey
[02:16] <sleeper> airox: mldonkey
[02:17] <airox> sleeper: Then you have to get the name of the package.
[02:17] <sleeper> but it is here
[02:17] <airox> man apt-cache;
[02:17] <Xappe> hmm. my ibook runs quite hot when running ubuntu (Hoary). is this a known issue that can be fixed?
[02:17] <sleeper> dont exist entry
[02:17] <sleeper> airox
[02:18] <airox> it is there sleeper
[02:18] <sleeper> mmmmmmmmmm
[02:18] <airox> Otherwise I can't help you further without me doing all the things.
[02:18] <sleeper> dont work
[02:19] <airox> Otherwise you will return a few days later and ask another question that can be looked up.
[02:19] <airox> sleeper: man man
[02:19] <dmallery> hi...  could someone please help me with a warty install hang?
[02:19] <sleeper> sorry but my english is very bad
[02:19] <airox> sleeper: sorry, gtg now
[02:20] <sleeper> gtg?
[02:20] <goldfish> got to go
[02:20] <airox> got to go, i have to sleep..
[02:20] <sleeper> ammm
[02:20] <sleeper> ok
[02:20] <sleeper> bye
[02:20] <airox> bye and good luck sleeper
[02:20] <sleeper> thx
[02:21] <dmallery> hi...  could someone please help me with a warty install hang?
[02:21] <airox> dmallery: Yes.
[02:21] <dmallery> hi on a supermicro 370de6 mobo (2x p3 1k) at the reboot in install it gets to "starting hotplug subsystem" hits the disk a few times and sits there forever.  i added noapic to the boot line. that removed the MP_BIOS error. i have tried every permutation of acpi=off and  noacpi... no joy.
[02:21] <airox> Just ask, there are enough people to answer.
[02:21] <airox> dmallery: pci=noapci you mean ?
[02:21] <dmallery> perhaps that\s it?
[02:21] <airox> :)
[02:22] <airox> try it.
[02:22] <dmallery> i go and try it now thanks!!
[02:22] <airox> good luck to you to!
[02:22] <airox> 3 hours of sleep... *ouch*
[02:22] <airox> well bye folks!
[02:25] <blizah> ubuntu come w/ an ftp client?
[02:25] <blizah> ...just use firefox?
[02:27] <NateDood> hi!
[02:28] <Blissex> blizah: there are _lots_ of FTP clients. But Firefox is not too bad, especially for download-only FTP.
[02:29] <blizah> hrm ive typed in the ip to an ftp and nothing is happening (in firefox
[02:29] <blizah> ill make sure its correct
[02:29] <blizah> ftp://(ip address)             that how i type it?
[02:30] <blizah> its a friends ftp...
[02:31] <Quest-Master> Nautilus is perfectly fine for most FTP stuff
[02:31] <Blissex> blizah: do you need to specify user/pass?
[02:31] <Blissex> blizah: but yes, ftp://IPADDR/ should work.
[02:31] <shekhar> hello anyone here familiar with ubuntu for powerpc? just installed on my pb g4 and encountered problems...
[02:32] <Blissex> blizah: but also try 'lftp'/'ncftp' (command line), 'gmc'/'nautilus', and 'gftp'.
[02:32] <blizah> yea ive found gftp
[02:32] <blizah> tnx agian
[02:37] <dmallery> airox: no joy on the hotplug hang...
[02:38] <Aron> hey all
[02:38] <Aron> I'm having funny problems with Firefox, does anyone else get random deadlocks/terminations when you type letters in?
[02:39] <Aron> It's a certain letter, pseudorandomly picked every time...today it's 'g' :P
[02:39] <Aron> how the HELL do I fix this?
[02:39] <Aron> Anyone here?
[02:40] <Quest-Master> Aron: Wow
[02:40] <Aron> and it just took most of GNOME with it
[02:40] <Quest-Master> Aron: That is really weird
[02:40] <Aron> this is getting screwy
[02:40] <Quest-Master> Are you on Warty?
[02:40] <Aron> Yeah
[02:40] <Aron> Upgrade time?
[02:40] <Quest-Master> Wow
[02:40] <Quest-Master> That's even weirder
[02:40] <rever> Ok I am trying to follow the instructions on the website but I can't use apt. I can do everything on the net using ip but my DNS does not work. Although they are setup right in the resolv.conf
[02:41] <Quest-Master> Aron: Try upgrading to Hoary
[02:41] <Aron> ok...now how do I go about doing that and keeping what I've got on here?
[02:41] <Aron> I assume a core upgrade is possible.
[02:42] <`shane> what's the switch to kill a terminal after running a program from it?
[02:43] <Aron> yup, my window panel just died a horrible death
[02:43] <Aron> somebody help me out, lol...this thing is getting nuts @_@
[02:43] <mikep> Aron: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:44] <Aron> and I'll keep my stuff?
[02:44] <mikep> i did not loose anything
[02:45] <NateDood> Can someone please make a recommendation about what program to use in Ubuntu to play DVD's??
[02:45] <`shane> VLC
[02:46] <Aron> I'm gonna restart and clear this bloody thing before I upgrade
[02:46] <Aron> trying to upgrade a system currently in the process of self-destruction doesn't sound safe
[02:46] <Aron> brb
[02:47] <dmallery> hi...  could someone please help me with a warty install hang?
[02:47] <`shane> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=12988&highlight=xine
[02:47] <`shane> VLC howto
[02:47] <`shane> fixed me right up with DVDs
[02:48] <knucks> Can someone please help me set up my printer?
[02:48] <knucks> Please
[02:49] <NateDood> thanks for the feedback shane:
[02:49] <Coily> does anyone know how to test my router for snmp capability?
[02:49] <Coily> i forgot the command for doing such
[02:49] <f3> if i put in in (hd0,0) in the gurb setup that would put it on partiton 1 right, not the mbr?
[02:49] <Aron> ok, I'm back...so it's sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?
[02:50] <knucks> Who can help me set up my printer?
[02:50] <mikep> Aron: yes
[02:50] <Aron> upgrading
[02:50] <Aron> it gave me a pair of 404s but it's going...
[02:51] <Aron> Get:1 http://security.ubuntu.com warty-security/main login 1:4.0.3-28.5ubuntu6.1  [480kB] 
[02:51] <Aron> Err http://security.ubuntu.com warty-security/main vim-common 1:6.3-025+1ubuntu2 .1
[02:51] <Aron>   404 Not Found
[02:51] <Aron> Err http://security.ubuntu.com warty-security/main vim 1:6.3-025+1ubuntu2.1
[02:51] <Aron>   404 Not Found
[02:51] <Aron> but I think it downloaded after that.
[02:51] <knucks> Please, someone. ineed to get my printer working
[02:52] <Aron> Knucks: What kind of printer, and what's it doing?
[02:52] <knucks> epson c64
[02:52] <knucks> ubuntu recognizes it
[02:52] <Aron> I'm running a C82, same driver :)
[02:52] <knucks> and i have the drives for it
[02:52] <Aron> 1 sec
[02:52] <Aron> you're SURE?
[02:52] <Aron> oookie...anyone?
[02:52] <knucks> but it wont show up after i add it
[02:52] <Aron> is it on when you try to add it?
[02:52] <knucks> yeah
[02:52] <mikep> Aron: http://ubuntuguide.org/ will answer alot of questions.
[02:52] <knucks> it doesnt give me an error or anything
[02:52] <knucks> just wont show up after i click add
[02:53] <Aron> assuming my browser doesn't total my system again lol
[02:53] <knucks> aron: u running hoary or warty?
[02:54] <hayden> hi people
[02:55] <goldfish> hi
[02:55] <mikep> Aron: also use "apt-get update and apt-get upgrade" daily.
[02:55] <knucks> Aron..?
[02:56] <knucks> please...
[02:56] <Aron> mikep: Thanks, and I'm currently on Warty, upgrading now
[02:57] <knucks> wow its like no one hears me
[02:57] <mikep> Aron: Yes Sir
[02:58] <mikep> knucks: I'm having trouble with my printer also or I would help you
[02:58] <knucks> well ARon has his working
[02:58] <knucks> but hes on warty
[02:58] <knucks> mine used to work on warty
[02:58] <knucks> and thne i upgraded and it no longer works
[02:58] <Aron> oh dear
[02:58] <hayden> i'm trying to play  dvd with gxine ive installed the files from RestrictedFormats but it still says this Read error from: /dev/dvd
[02:59] <Aron> ok, my upgrades are failing
[02:59] <Zotnix> hayden, how many hard drives do you have?
[02:59] <hayden> 1
[02:59] <Aron> I figured I had to do a normal upgrade before a dist-upgrade after the dist-upgrade didn't work...
[02:59] <Zotnix> hayden, try /dev/hdb
[02:59] <Zotnix> In the preferences I believe you can change it.
[03:00] <Aron> but I still get this Ign http://userpages.umbc.edu ./ Release
[03:00] <Aron> Fetched 93.3kB in 10s (8578B/s)
[03:00] <Aron> Failed to fetch http://userpages.umbc.edu/~fu1/debian/./Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[03:00] <Aron> Reading Package Lists... Done
[03:00] <Aron> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[03:00] <Aron> that's when I do apt-get update
[03:00] <crypticreign> what happened to the great mouse cursours ?
[03:00] <crypticreign> i have ugly X ones now
[03:00] <Aron> I killed it with fire. :P
[03:00] <hayden> crypticreign, did u upgrade to hoary?
[03:00] <Burgundavia> crypticreign: a bug upstream
[03:00] <crypticreign> hayden: yeah
[03:01] <hayden> yeah that happened to me
[03:01] <crypticreign> hayden: i just installed array 6
[03:01] <crypticreign> fresh install
[03:01] <hayden> there was a good howto in the ubuntu forums, but i've lost the link
[03:01] <hayden> on how to get the cursors
[03:01] <hayden> back
[03:01] <crypticreign> hmm
[03:02] <crypticreign> ill try to search
[03:02] <hayden> Zotnix, it still gives an error read error from /dev/hdb
[03:03] <cocol> u need gcursors
[03:03] <cocol> apt it
[03:03] <hayden> it can be done without gCursor
[03:04] <cocol> how? hayden
[03:04] <hayden> i saw it on a ubuntuforum link
[03:04] <Woodwizzle> Anyone able to get beagle installed under hoary?
[03:05] <knucks> I got my printer working :D
[03:06] <Aron> nice, how?
[03:06] <knucks> i just put a different driver..
[03:06] <knucks> and it showed up in printers..
[03:06] <knucks> but then i switched back to the right driver..
[03:06] <knucks> seems to work
[03:07] <Aron> hmm
[03:07] <knucks> its not identifying as the epson c64 but it works
[03:07] <Aron> cool
[03:09] <rever1> can someone help me I am following the nvidia instructs on the Ubuntu website. It says to do apt-get install linux-kernel-headers-1686 but when I do that I get package cannot be found
[03:09] <rever1> Ho can I install my kernel source to install the drivers for my kernel card.
[03:09] <hayden> Zotnix, i got my dvd working with /dev/hdc on /dev/hdb lol
[03:09] <knucks> rever1 = are u sure ur repositories are all right?
[03:09] <billytwowilly> PL-2303 ttyUSB0: pl2303_open - failed submitting interrupt urb, error -28
[03:10] <billytwowilly> how would I fix that ^
[03:10] <rever1> knucks, I commented out all from the default config and did an apt-get update no issues
[03:11] <knucks> did you do #3 on that guide?
[03:11] <hayden> what is a good cd burning program that i can apt-get?
[03:12] <knucks> k3b
[03:12] <blizah> is usr/bin/ where a bunch of programs are kept
[03:12] <blizah> like the launch part of the programs?
[03:12] <goldfish> i think it is
[03:13] <goldfish> from what i have seen but i is a n00b :)
[03:13] <macewan> which firefox
[03:13] <macewan> which gedit
[03:13] <hayden> i dun wanna install kde though
[03:14] <macewan> yup /usr/bin
[03:14] <Aron> k, doing a distro upgrade now...and I do need a bail-out setting up firefox 1.0 after. 0.93 is so buggy...
[03:14] <goldfish> hayden: i think grip is the name of one i used
[03:14] <blizah> so does /usr/bin contain every program?
[03:14] <goldfish> blizah: nope
[03:14] <hayden> grip only rips cds doesnt it goldfish
[03:14] <goldfish> blizah: for example azureus goes to /opt/azureus/
[03:14] <goldfish> hayden: ah right, u looking for dvd ...
[03:14] <goldfish> sorry
[03:14] <blizah> ah
[03:15] <hayden> goldfish, nah im looking for burning software now
[03:15] <goldfish> oh right
[03:15] <goldfish> lol
[03:15] <blizah> does azureus come installed on ubuntu?  or is in synaptic?
[03:15] <Burgundavia> blizah: programs are in /sbin /bin /usr/sbin /usr/bin
[03:15] <rever1> knucks, there was no #3 on this guide
[03:15] <blizah> k tnx
[03:15] <goldfish> blizah: synaptic, instuctions are on ubuntuguide.org
[03:15] <Burgundavia> blizah: /sbin - stuff to get system running
[03:15] <knucks> rever1: look on the how-to guide on ubuntuforus
[03:15] <blizah> ah neat its very orginized
[03:15] <Burgundavia> blizah: /bin stuff that is need day to day
[03:16] <Burgundavia> blizah: /usr/sbin stuff that sysadmins need but not for the running of the system (apache, etc.)
[03:16] <Burgundavia> blizah: /usr/bin -- everything else
[03:17] <blizah> wow cool
[03:20] <blizah> any idea where i would find the icon that appears when i open gftp...for a launcher icon?
[03:20] <blizah> ive done a whereis gftp and looked everywhere that shows up
[03:20] <blizah> found it
[03:20] <blizah> ..
[03:21] <blizah> hehe now i got another question :D
[03:21] <woodwizzle> I can't find the SVG icon themes in synaptic for Hoary. Are they there?
[03:21] <blizah> whats the diff. between a *.png icon and an *.xpm icon?
[03:21] <goldfish> different formats
[03:21] <goldfish> well, thats obvious
[03:21] <goldfish> hehe
[03:22] <blizah> when i see two icons that are the same but the diff. file types looks like png is bigger and better attention to detail
[03:23] <GhostFreeman> How can I tell if I install the ATI Drivers on my Kernel?
[03:23] <GhostFreeman> isnt there a terminal command
[03:23] <blizah> erm theres one to access the control pannel
[03:23] <blizah> ati control pannel
[03:24] <blizah> /usr/bin/X11/fireglcontrol
[03:24] <f3> if grub comes up when i boot it means i put it in the mbr?
[03:24] <blizah> thast what i got from installing fglrx  --the ati stuff in ubuntu
[03:25] <GhostFreeman> Does there have to be a fireglcontrol directory for the drivers to work or what
[03:25] <Quest-Master> ahahahaha,
[03:25] <GhostFreeman> I think I screwed up the install
[03:25] <jesuel> ahh finally got xine working ;p
[03:25] <hayden> where is the kernel source code located in ubuntu warty
[03:25] <blizah> ghostfreeman open up synaptic package manager and search for fglrx
[03:26] <Aron> ok...I did apt-get dist-upgrade.
[03:26] <Aron> and Firefox just blew up
[03:26] <blizah> i apt-get installed fglrs-control, and fglrs-driver
[03:26] <blizah> heh
[03:26] <Aron> help?
[03:26] <GhostFreeman> ok
[03:26] <blizah> they arent the newest ati drivers but they are ati drivers
[03:26] <GhostFreeman> I see fglrx-driver checked off
[03:27] <blizah> i guess you dont have to do control one if you dont need it
[03:27] <GhostFreeman> now installing fglrx-control and fglrx-driver-dev
[03:27] <blizah> mostly for dual display
[03:27] <blizah> dont need the dev one
[03:28] <Aron> Anyone? Typing random letters STILL kills Mozilla.
[03:28] <blizah> well dont think
[03:28] <blizah> im a n00b
[03:28] <GhostFreeman> ok I installed it anyways
[03:28] <Aron> ack, Firefox. :P
[03:28] <GhostFreeman> I want to see if I can run Doom 3 as good as I can in Windows :)
[03:28] <blizah> aron i would help...but im a n00b
[03:28] <blizah> ghost you have cedega?
[03:28] <GhostFreeman> No
[03:29] <blizah> might need it for doom 3
[03:29] <GhostFreeman> ok
[03:29] <blizah> not sure...
[03:29] <jesuel> doom3 has a native unix binary
[03:29] <GhostFreeman> I'd like to stay away from emulators to be honest
[03:29] <crypticreign> hayden: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=16475&highlight=cursor
[03:29] <jesuel> it should be on the last cd
[03:29] <blizah> ah what jesul said
[03:29] <blizah> neat
[03:29] <jesuel> This is just what i heard of course :)
[03:29] <GhostFreeman> I have Doom 3, but im going to try the Demo for performance purposes
[03:30] <jesuel> GhostFreeman, what graphics card?
[03:30] <GhostFreeman> 9800XT
[03:30] <jesuel> it will be faster than windows most likely
[03:30] <GhostFreeman> Ran Doom 3 in Windows at High settings
[03:30] <hayden> crypticreign, hmm
[03:30] <hardkase_> hey allim having some trouble with my multimedia
[03:30] <blizah> i wasnt too happy with doom 3
[03:31] <jesuel> I prefer q3
[03:31] <jesuel> :)
[03:31] <hardkase_> it says its playing my mp3s, but doesn't make any sound
[03:31] <hardkase_> what could be wrong ?
[03:31] <hardkase_> hl2 owns doom3
[03:31] <blizah> havent gotten a chance to play hl2 yet
[03:31] <hayden> no i think id owns doom3
[03:31] <blizah> hehe
[03:31] <jesuel> HardKase, Ive not played hl2 *yet*
[03:31] <hardkase_> jesuel - i wish i was you, so i can play it for the first time again :)
[03:32] <crypticreign> hayden: doesnt seem to work
[03:32] <GhostFreeman> HL2 was the shaznet
[03:32] <jesuel> Ill be installing hl2 tomorrow most likely. As long as it installs into my cedega installation
[03:32] <hayden> crypticreign, yea i didn't think it would
[03:32] <GhostFreeman> but its full of bugs...and Steam...steam...lol
[03:32] <bored2k> hl2 owns mario1 and any other thing around .
[03:32] <jesuel> yes, steam
[03:32] <hardkase_> steam is ok, once your installed lol
[03:32] <goldfish> cs:source!!!!
[03:32] <macewan> whereis the OpenOffice.org splash image stored?
[03:33] <macewan> anyone
[03:33] <bored2k> Steam is cool as long as u pay for it .. luckily, a friend gave me his account :D
[03:33] <jesuel> yeah cedega supposedly supports hl2
[03:33] <jesuel> and i have a pay account to cedega so. :)
[03:33] <crypticreign> hayden: i installed gcursor which lists that cursor theme, i can select it. but now sure how to set it
[03:33] <GhostFreeman> Cedega does support HL2
[03:33] <Aron> ut2004 owns both anyway
[03:33] <GhostFreeman> but its nowhere near as nice as running it in Windows
[03:33] <bored2k> a friend gmailed me cedega 4.2 .deb :D ...4 free :)
[03:33] <jesuel> bored2k, die. I want hl2, I just dont want to pay 50 bucks for it
[03:34] <jesuel> bored2k, 4.3 is out
[03:34] <bored2k> jesuel i didnt know, ill try to get it ASAP
[03:34] <jesuel> :)
[03:34] <jesuel> just was released recently
[03:35] <jesuel> GhostFreeman, I dont wish to run windows :)
[03:35] <crypticreign> hayden: actually, it worked
[03:35] <jesuel> GhostFreeman, Ill deal with emulation if i can avoid windows :)
[03:35] <bored2k> jesuel, for those not wanting to pay, there is always http://cs.rin.ru/forum/viewforum.php?f=10
[03:36] <Aron> question: how do I know I successfully upgraded to Hoary? Also, Steam is evil...
[03:36] <bored2k> I only use cedega for Counter-Strike, so Steam/Cedega 4.2 have been working grateful so phar
[03:37] <hardkase_> hey
[03:37] <jesuel> bored2k, those servers you can play a non-legit hl2 on eh?
[03:37] <regeya> hm.
[03:37] <hardkase_> i can play mp3s
[03:37] <regeya> so can I (and am)
[03:37] <hardkase_> ok
[03:37] <tizen> Myself, i prefer to listen to real coding music... cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp for me
[03:37] <bored2k> jesuel we used to, but after hl2 Gabe Newell got bitchy and is doing the impossible to not allow it
[03:38] <hardkase_> i try to play xvids and i cant get a picture
[03:38] <blizah> bored2k does your microphone work in cs?
[03:38] <blizah> i cant get mine to work
[03:38] <Thunderwood> wireless networking
[03:38] <blizah> through cedega...
[03:38] <bored2k> jesuel - they make cracks, but they get overwritten very soon... we still have NON STEAM servers made from ouselves :D:D
[03:38] <Thunderwood> \\
[03:38] <GhostFreeman> I'm only using Linux because I want to see what its like
[03:38] <bored2k> blizah when i tried i wasnt able to, but i hadnt configured my sound properly, i have to retry on that
[03:38] <GhostFreeman> and I like what I see
[03:39] <blizah> hardkase i have just the link for ya :D
[03:39] <GhostFreeman> ...I still don't see myself giving up Windows
[03:39] <GhostFreeman> yet
[03:39] <bored2k> GFreeman thats what everyones says at first :P , unless ur geek at Redmond hell camp working on windows servers
[03:39] <blizah> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=94
[03:39] <Thunderwood> configuring the wireless network card somone...anyone
[03:39] <hardkase_> blizah - i likes links
[03:39] <blizah> how to install mplayer...should play most files
[03:40] <blizah> also there is a codec it tells you to get
[03:40] <hardkase_> yeah
[03:40] <hardkase_> i have mplayer installed
[03:40] <blizah> go to the last page on the thread (i think its the last) and they have a link to the new
[03:40] <jesuel> bored2k,  ill just either buy a copy online if i can find one on the cheap. Or ill look locally sooner or later.
[03:40] <blizah> ah
[03:41] <bored2k> jesuel to tell you the truth, hl2 online isn't worth the money...at ALL, unreal/quake/anything beats its online, so a cracked version is perfect -and updated
[03:41] <jesuel> bored2k, well mostly i want to play cs:source
[03:41] <bored2k> jesuel, on the contrary, Counter-Strike Source is worth every penny, and you can probably get a stand alone copy for far less than 50bucs
[03:41] <bored2k> lol
[03:41] <blizah> old normal cs >  cs source ?
[03:42] <bored2k> blizah source is cs with pimped out gphx
[03:42] <goldfish> hrmm...
[03:42] <goldfish> old cs is full of cheats
[03:42] <goldfish> on public servers anyway
[03:42] <jesuel> yup
[03:42] <blizah> yea
[03:42] <bored2k> jesuel we have about 500 non steam cs:s servers ... so you could  just dl it
[03:42] <goldfish> i like the look source
[03:43] <bored2k> I still play cs 1.6 tho, anyone can play it, runs better on linux, and my crappy gamer friends dont hav good enough PCs
[03:43] <goldfish> bored2k: cracked servers?
[03:43] <hayden> where is the kernel source code for ubuntu found?
[03:44] <wixtech_> Happy Hoary Preview Release Eve to one and all!
[03:44] <blizah> bored2k you have to run cs 1.6 through cedega right?
[03:44] <bored2k> blizah yeah thru cedega/steam
[03:44] <bored2k> goldfish NOT cracked servers, servers that arent even in steam
[03:45] <cbgb> I have just installed ubuntu and my monitor is blurring
[03:45] <bored2k> goldfish we have a sh@#tload of servers, from india to arabia to texas to pto rico
[03:45] <blizah> cedega = cedega/steam?
[03:45] <blizah> or is there a special cedega steam edition?
[03:45] <cbgb> I just see like double icons
[03:45] <GregoryD> how much of a performance difference am I really going to get from going to the 386 to k7 kernel?
[03:46] <bored2k> blizah you download steam from steampowered.com , then do cedega SteamInstall.exe , install it, and  u open thru the normal cedega STEAM.exe
[03:46] <regeya> ok, rawk.  I couldn't get rails+sqlite going on my os x box at work, but after following the debian instructions on installing a complete ruby, it works fine on Ubuntu.  RAWK.
[03:46] <wixtech_> hoary question: has anyone had luck getting totem-gst to play any video files (mov, avi,etc)?
[03:46] <blizah> ah ok bored2k thats what i did...thought you might have meant that theres a special cedega for steam :D
[03:47] <schweeb> wixtech_: I just  use totem-xine
[03:47] <blizah> had a few weird happenings :D
[03:47] <schweeb> it's a simple solution, and tends to work better for me
[03:48] <wixtech_> scweeb: that's what I'm running too.
[03:48] <wixtech_> schweeb:  sorry for messing up your handle.
[03:48] <schweeb> no prob, common mistake
[03:48] <schweeb> most people haven't figured out about tab nick completion or something :p
[03:49] <wixtech_> schweeg:  it seems to me gst ought to work and that I'm doing something wrong or at least not Ubuntu by running xine.
[03:49] <regeya> I use xchat-aqua at work, and just try to do tab nick completion in xchat-aqua.  I dare ya.
[03:49] <blizah> woa there is a tab nick completion!! :D
[03:50] <bored2k> blizah how was ur hl2 performance on *nix?
[03:50] <bored2k> i dont use point2play cuz i dont have money to pay for it and i just got cedega.deb 4 free :)
[03:50] <regeya> your...the word is 'your'...it's only 2 bytes extra, two extra keystrokes. :-)
[03:50] <hardkase_> anyone know a way to mount cd images on your hard drive to a virtual cd/dvd drive ?
[03:50] <hayden> where is the kernel source code for ubuntu found?
[03:51] <hardkase_> like daemon tools ? only for linux ?
[03:51] <goldfish> bored2k: how u get cedega for free?
[03:51] <regeya> omg mah l33t hl g4mz0r si r0x0r ROR
[03:51] <mdz> hayden: linux-source-<version>, but if you only want to compile a module, use linux-headers-<version>
[03:51] <hayden> i want the directory which it is in
[03:51] <mdz> it is not in a directory until you install the package
[03:52] <regeya> ok i gtg but t3h hl2 si r0x0r imho lol hth
[03:52] <hayden> For RedHat 6.x users these files are installed in /usr/src/linux by default
[03:52] <hayden> For RedHat 7.x users these files are installed in /usr/src/linux-2.4 by default
[03:52] <hayden> For Suse 7.3 users these files are installed in /usr/src/linux-2.4.10.SuSE by default
[03:52] <hayden> Directory containing linux kernel source code [] 
[03:52] <blizah> bored2k im talking about old cs
[03:52] <hardkase_> i like cs
[03:52] <bored2k> goldfish I got it off the net / uploaded it to my Gmail account ; cedega is command line only so they cant charge for anything; u just install it and use it just as u would use wine
[03:52] <hardkase_> i brought some headphones, all specially for it
[03:52] <hardkase_> lol
[03:52] <blizah> but its been a little weird...like every 3 seconds the screen jumps in a very slight amount like its tring to render something (and i know my comp is fast enough for cs)
[03:52] <goldfish> bored2k: oh right, cool, i thought u had to pay for it.
[03:53] <bored2k> goldfish i can send it to you to a gmail or whatever, u wont see a "free dl" button on transgaming website :\
[03:53] <bored2k> blizah ok cool ; I only play 1.6 on nix btw
[03:53] <goldfish> bored2k: cool
[03:54] <Xappe> anyone uses an ibook w/ ubuntu?
[03:54] <wixtech_> schweeb, : just figured out the tab nick completion trick.  thanks for the heads up!
[03:54] <Xappe> have some questions
[03:54] <goldfish> bored2k: nanafunk@gmail.com
[03:54] <hayden> Directory containing linux kernel source code [] 
[03:54] <goldfish> if u dont mind
[03:55] <blizah> bored2k, 1.6 = good ol' cs?
[03:55] <goldfish> 1.0 !
[03:55] <bored2k> blizah yes 1.6
[03:55] <blizah> when you load steam are your fonts real small?
[03:55] <blizah> and run together?
[03:55] <bored2k> no blizah, at all
[03:55] <Yomic> Gah, I thought Ubuntu/Linux wasn't supposed to lag (much or at all)
[03:55] <blizah> hrm
[03:56] <bored2k> blizah i copied my apt-gotten msttcore [winblows]  fonts to the fake windows cedega installs
[03:56] <bored2k> goldfish >> Your message has been sent.
[03:56] <mdz> hayden: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/compile-kernel-module
[03:56] <goldfish> bored2k: thanks alot
[03:56] <blizah> bored2k what do i do to do that :D
[03:57] <hayden> i'm not compiling the kernel
[03:57] <blizah> just apt get msttcore?
[03:57] <hayden> i just want to find the directory where the kernel source is at
[03:57] <bored2k> blizah apt-get install msttcorefonts, those are crappy winblows fonts
[03:58] <blizah> how do you get steam to use them?
[03:58] <bored2k> blizah after downloaded, copy all ur fonts from /usr/share/fonts/truetype/msttcorefonts/ to $HOME/Transgaming_Drive/windows/fonts/
[03:58] <blizah> k
[03:58] <wixtech_> Xappe, :from the Ubuntu wiki re: ibook support "Known to work: graphics, disk, CPU scaling, USB, sound, wired network, CD burning, firewire, modem"
[03:59] <crypticreign> heh wtf, the weather applet only lists down to Georgia
[03:59] <wixtech_> Xappe, :" Known to NOT work: sleep/suspend, builtin wireless on newer models (i.e. Airport Extreme)"
[03:59] <wixtech_> Xappe, : " external display: does not work in Warty, works with new X.org server (now in Hoary)"
[03:59] <bored2k> goldfish word of advice: get this dll http://www.dll-files.com/dllindex/dll-files.shtml?msvcr70 and place it in the /windows/system32 of cedega's fake windows...some games need it
[04:00] <wixtech_> Xappe, : I hope that helps.
[04:00] <goldfish> bored2k: ok, thanks alot
[04:00] <jesuel> goldfish, you have a account with cedega or free one?
[04:00] <goldfish> emm
[04:00] <goldfish> nothing at the minute
[04:00] <goldfish> :)
[04:00] <bored2k> goldfish np ; if i stumble across cedega 4.3 ill FW, ur email is already saved
[04:01] <goldfish> ok, cheers
[04:01] <jesuel> k
[04:01] <bored2k> he can still play other games, or CS/HL on non steam servers
[04:01] <bored2k> Ive been wanting to get ut2004, but its freaking 4gb thick and I have way too much stuff on queue :@
[04:02] <GhostFreeman> Hey guys, I got this problem with resizing after installing the Doom 3 demo
[04:02] <GhostFreeman> "The X Server does not support the XRandR extension.  Runtime resolution changes to the display size are not available."
[04:03] <GhostFreeman> Any idea how I can get my screen resolution back the way it was?
[04:03] <jesuel> lol
[04:03] <jesuel> 4gb download :)
[04:04] <blizah> bored2k, one more question...any way to make steam resizable, like grab w/ the mouse and make bigger, under cedega?
[04:05] <bored2k> blizah I can hardly get it to move position at times if thats an answer ...
[04:05] <blizah> hehe
[04:05] <blizah> ever fidn that you cant alt-tab out?
[04:05] <GhostFreeman> sorry about that
[04:06] <bored2k> blizah yes its annoying ; i just keep something open like a gaim window and press alt+f2 fr run app to display, wich works just as alt tab ;)
[04:06] <blizah> ah k
[04:06] <GhostFreeman> Anybody know how I can get my resolution back
[04:06] <blizah> lemme know if you figure out to get microphone working :D
[04:07] <blizah> in ubuntu ghost?
[04:07] <GhostFreeman> yeah
[04:07] <blizah> you running warty?
[04:07] <GhostFreeman> Yeah but I get this error when I access the setting in Gnome: "The X Server does not support the XRandR extension.  Runtime resolution changes to the display size are not available."
[04:07] <blizah> theres a file called xfconfig (i think) that holds the resolutions
[04:07] <blizah> yea same thing i think
[04:08] <blizah> not sure the location but xfconfig or somethign close to that holds the resolutions
[04:08] <GhostFreeman> I can;t find it
[04:08] <hayden> what directory is the kernel source code for ubuntu found?
[04:09] <underlord> hey, i changed my warty installations repositoriesd to the hoary ones and dod an update and upgrade, but when i reboot my usb is destroyed, linux sees the root hub devices (the usb ports) but nothing attached to them, what could be the cause?
[04:10] <LordC> Upon trying to edit my gnome menus, i try "applications:///" in nautilus, but it simply tells me the destination is invalid. Any ideas why?
[04:11] <bored2k> well I'm off ; Frag on ppl ... frag - ON
[04:11] <GhostFreeman> Guys I can't figure this out
[04:11] <Xappe> wixtech_, well no. my question is if anyone else have the problem of the ibook running quite warm with Hoary, and if I can do something do minimize the problem. I don't want to damage the thing (heck, it's not even mine)
[04:11] <GhostFreeman> I want my resolution back at 1024x768
[04:11] <underlord> i want my mouse and modem to work
[04:11] <CraigB> Ghost:  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:12] <vonschutter> anyone know how to do an unattended install of Ubuntu?
[04:12] <mdz> hayden: there is no point in repeatedly asking if you will not listen to the answer
[04:12] <GhostFreeman> xserver-xorg is not installed
[04:12] <CraigB> warty or hoary?
[04:13] <GhostFreeman> warty
[04:13] <wixtech_> Xappe: I just saw your post on the ubuntuforums.  sorry I can't help you, I'm a wintel guy.
[04:13] <Xappe> ok
[04:13] <mebaran151> any of you guys know if the Blackbery 7100t is supported by evolution
[04:13] <CraigB> oh.  no clue then.
[04:13] <blizah> ill try to find it for ya ghost
[04:13] <crypticreign> is there anyway to bookmark a location in nautilus? (power went out missed the response)
[04:13] <GhostFreeman> ok
[04:13] <mebaran151> and also
[04:13] <mebaran151> does my i950 get support under linux yet
[04:14] <mebaran151> Canon unfortunately
[04:14] <blizah> sudo gedit /etc/X11/XF86Config-4
[04:14] <blizah> that might be it
[04:14] <GregoryD> when you dist-upgrade to hoary, does it automatically switch you to the xorg xserver?
[04:15] <blizah> "then search for Section "Screen"/Subsection(s) "Display" and order the 'Modes' for each color-depth the way you want.
[04:15] <blizah> The first mode on each line is the one X11 starts in."
[04:15] <crypticreign> yes GregoryD
[04:15] <hayden> mdz, coz ur answer is wrong
[04:15] <GregoryD> alright, cool then... everything upgraded flawlessly and my volume control even works correctly now
[04:15] <GhostFreeman> so I edit one line here and I can go back to 10x7?
[04:15] <wixtech_> Xappe: you're not alone.  Check out this post by a debian ibook user http://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2004/10/msg00031.html
[04:15] <awtomlinson> can someone please help with mounting a second ide hard drive?
[04:15] <mdz> hayden: I'm afraid not, but it's clear that you're not interested
[04:16] <GregoryD> that, and my microphone works so I'm able to use an external cable to get my ATI TV wonder card's sound working right again
[04:16] <LordC> How do you add more items to the gnome menu?
[04:16] <awtomlinson> i do a mkdir in /dev & create a directory called hdd.  then i do a mkdir in /mnt & create a directory called drive2
[04:16] <mebaran151> awtomlinson, DONT DO THAT
[04:16] <GhostFreeman> Once I edit the XF86Config, any terminal command to reset things?
[04:16] <mebaran151> dont touch dev
[04:16] <awtomlinson> then i do a mount -t reiserfs /dev/hdd /mnt/drive2
[04:17] <mebaran151> unless you know what you are doing
[04:17] <crypticreign> how does ubuntu mount network nfs drives on boot? i dont nee netmount
[04:17] <mebaran151> it wont be dev
[04:17] <awtomlinson> mebaran151, so how do i do it?
[04:17] <mebaran151> first off
[04:17] <mebaran151> do you know what it is named
[04:17] <mebaran151> the drive that is
[04:17] <mebaran151> it wont be hdd
[04:18] <vonschutter> anyone know about installing ubuntu?
[04:18] <crypticreign> we all do
[04:18] <crypticreign> i think
[04:18] <crypticreign> haha
[04:18] <mebaran151> what kind of IDE drives are hooked
[04:18] <mebaran151> awtomlinson, opitcal etc
[04:18] <vonschutter> do you know how to install it automatically?
[04:19] <vonschutter> kile with a kickstart file?
[04:19] <vonschutter> like i mean...
[04:19] <crypticreign> oh i dont know
[04:19] <crypticreign> im sure someone does
[04:19] <mebaran151> vonschutter, start what
[04:19] <schweeb> vonschutter: afaik that's not available in warty
[04:19] <schweeb> it's planned for hoary, although I don't know if it's complete
[04:19] <vonschutter> ok
[04:20] <mebaran151> vonschutter
[04:20] <vonschutter> by the way... what does "afaik" mean?
[04:20] <vonschutter> yes
[04:20] <vonschutter> ?
[04:20] <GhostFreeman> That didn't do anything
[04:20] <mebaran151> what did you need
[04:20] <crypticreign> as far as i know
[04:20] <GhostFreeman> my screen resolution is still at 1280x1024
[04:20] <GhostFreeman> What do I do now
[04:20] <mebaran151> GhostFreeman, where do you want it at
[04:20] <GhostFreeman> 1024x768 at 85Hz
[04:20] <mebaran151> just edit XF86Config
[04:20] <mebaran151> comment out those modes
[04:21] <mebaran151> with 1280 x 1024
[04:21] <GhostFreeman> and then?
[04:21] <mebaran151> I mean delete them
[04:21] <mebaran151> ctrl-alt-bkspace
[04:21] <mebaran151> kill X
[04:21] <GhostFreeman> ok
[04:22] <mebaran151> or you could just ctrl-alt-+ or minus until you get the resolution you want
[04:22] <schweeb> vonschutter: as far as i know
[04:22] <GhostFreeman> ctrl-alt-+ does nothing
[04:22] <mebaran151> hmmm
[04:22] <mebaran151> try this
[04:22] <mebaran151> I think you have an X config utility
[04:23] <vonschutter> schweeb: what, buddy?
[04:23] <mebaran151> xf86config
[04:23] <GhostFreeman> ok
[04:23] <GhostFreeman> I can run xf86config
[04:23] <mebaran151> just dont let it select those modes
[04:23] <mebaran151> that you dont want
[04:23] <mebaran151> I think it lets you
[04:23] <error_29> Does anybody know why hoary removed gnome-terminal from the menus?
[04:24] <mebaran151> I have it
[04:24] <schweeb> http://www.octoz.org/
[04:24] <schweeb> good lord
[04:24] <schweeb> fricking clippy for Linux
[04:24] <zenrox> lol
[04:24] <crypticreign> isnt there a clippy clone in OOO>?
[04:24] <zenrox> ewwww i dont wnat to tuch it
[04:25] <mebaran151> I DO
[04:25] <mebaran151> what am I touching
[04:25] <zenrox> clipy
[04:25] <mebaran151> do I get a pole
[04:25] <zenrox> yes 100 foot
[04:26] <mebaran151> I need more
[04:26] <GhostFreeman> This thing
[04:26] <GhostFreeman> is kicking my ass
[04:26] <mebaran151> haha
[04:26] <mebaran151> try this
[04:26] <mebaran151> configure-debian
[04:26] <zenrox> GhostFreeman,  try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
[04:27] <mebaran151> zenrox
[04:27] <mebaran151> yeah
[04:27] <GhostFreeman> ok
[04:27] <mebaran151> I just use the frontend
[04:27] <mebaran151> when it asks for resolutions
[04:27] <zenrox> yep
[04:27] <mebaran151> just say no to drugs, I mean to the resolutions you dont want
[04:27] <jesuel> lol
[04:27] <zenrox> lol
[04:27] <GhostFreeman> ok
[04:28] <GhostFreeman> it never asks
[04:29] <zenrox> GhostFreeman,  you can also edit a file sudo /etc/X11/xfree86conf i think and add the resulution to the file and then resart x
[04:29] <GhostFreeman> ok
[04:29] <GhostFreeman> would I remove all references to 1280x1024
[04:30] <mebaran151> yes
[04:30] <mebaran151> do so
[04:30] <zenrox> yes
[04:30] <mebaran151> if you dont want it
[04:30] <mebaran151> just make it go away
[04:30] <GhostFreeman> and to reset x?
[04:30] <zenrox> yep
[04:30] <GhostFreeman> Ctrl-Alt-Backspace?
[04:30] <zenrox> alt+ctrl+backspace
[04:30] <zenrox> lol
[04:30] <zenrox> that was quick
[04:31] <mebaran151> yes
[04:31] <mebaran151> I kill X regularly
[04:31] <mebaran151> just so it knows who is boss
[04:31] <zenrox> me too
[04:31] <jesuel> heh
[04:31] <mebaran151> you cant let X take on more than you can handle
[04:31] <GhostFreeman> Got it at 10x7
[04:31] <zenrox> that work
[04:31] <GhostFreeman> Now how do I set it to 85Hz if not by defalt
[04:31] <GhostFreeman> yeah
[04:31] <BobaFett> Guys...Im having a bit of a predicament with k3b...is there a way to create a desktop launcher that starts in a root command line?
[04:32] <zenrox> go thau the display config
[04:32] <zenrox> and set it
[04:32] <zenrox> in gnome
[04:32] <awtomlinson> mebaran151, sorry.  this is an old hard drive from my last computer.  its connected via ide
[04:32] <GhostFreeman> Still getting XRandR errors
[04:32] <Xappe> what is normal temp for a laptop hdd? hddtemp gives me 47C...
[04:33] <BobaFett> GhostFreeman: Change the resolution and hz in 'Computer'-'Screen resolution' and mark the 'set as defaults for this user' checkbox.
[04:33] <zenrox> GhostFreeman,  might have to ad that to that same config file under montior but i dont know how to do that
[04:33] <GhostFreeman> It would be great if I could have this setting back in Gnome
[04:34] <awtomlinson> can anyone help mount a second ide hard drive?
[04:34] <GhostFreeman> my monitor tells me that FV: 85Hz but FH: 60Hz so I don't know if that's true 85Hz
[04:34] <mark_> awtomlinson --- what-for-setup do you have?
[04:36] <awtomlinson> mark, its my old hard drive. i want to back up some data to my new system.  my current system has 1 windows partition, and 1 linux swap, & 2 reiser partitions.  i just want to mount the /home directory on the old hard drive.  its also reisr
[04:37] <BobaFett> Guys...Im having a bit of a predicament with k3b...is there a way to create a desktop launcher that starts in a root command line?
[04:37] <rriche> hi.  wine checks for /dev/dsp and fails.. and this just happened.. any idea what i might look for? yes.. i know i am using OSS.. but my nforce chipset doesnt like alsa.  this all worked.. i have ran updates recently... what could i look for that may have screwed with this?
[04:37] <rriche> my sound works everywhere else
[04:37] <rriche> so the system recognizes sound
[04:38] <mark_> awtomlinso -- I'll assume you have the second drive as a slave.  In that case choose a directory on your main drive (make a directory called /mnt/backup if you want)
[04:38] <mark_> awtomlinson -- then, in a terminal either sudo su - to become root - or sudo /mnt/hdb1 /mnt/backup -- that should mount your old / structure under the /mnt/backup directory
[04:39] <mark_> awtomlinson - you may have seperate paritions on the old drive -- like hdb1 is root and hdb2 is home -- is so, replace the hdb_ with whatever you need ..
[04:40] <rriche> yah.. the sound test in Point2Play stats that it was unable to open /dev/dsp
[04:41] <mark_> rriche - do you have sounds enabled for events in gnome? -- sometimes that will 'lock' the sound device not allowing anything else access to it ... maybe try that first ...
[04:41] <rriche> hrrm
[04:41] <rriche> i have sound events enabled in GAIM
[04:41] <mark_> gaim grabs /dev/dsp
[04:42] <rriche> hahah
[04:42] <rriche> thx
[04:42] <mark_> no problem
[04:43] <rriche> oh boy
[04:43] <rriche> wtf
[04:43] <rriche> alsa works now too
[04:43] <rriche> i guess they fixed my nforce crap in hoary or something
[04:43] <mark_> oh - you're using hoary?
[04:43] <rriche> yah
[04:43] <mark_> Hoary moved from using esound to polypaudio
[04:43] <rriche> is that a good thing? seems so
[04:44] <schweeb> mark_: and back to esound
[04:44] <schweeb> polypaudio isn't production ready
[04:44] <rriche> alsa always failed for me cuz i was too stubborn to go with a compatible intel chipset
[04:44] <mark_> schweeb: when?
[04:44] <schweeb> about an hr ago
[04:44] <mark_> :) -- haven't updated since this morning
[04:44] <schweeb> well, don't think the packages have been generated with the changes yet
[04:45] <mark_> although - I'd argue that esound isn't exactly 'production ready'
[04:45] <GhostFreeman> I have a personal question for the people here
[04:45] <schweeb> but mdz and crew decided it wasn't good enough for preview, and removed it
[04:45] <schweeb> esound is production ready
[04:45] <mark_> interesting ...
[04:45] <GhostFreeman> Does it ever get old answering all the newb questions
[04:45] <schweeb> it just sucks
[04:45] <schweeb> it works for the most part
[04:45] <mark_> schweeb -- touche ...
[04:45] <schweeb> just sounds shitty, etc...
[04:46] <mark_> it always chokes on my snd-atiixp alsa setup
[04:46] <schweeb> I don't care enough about mixed audio to use either
[04:47] <rriche> hoary is hot though
[04:47] <mark_> That's a good point - but I'm surprised by how often I actually need mixed audio ...
[04:48] <mark_> I would love hoary if Evolution had a calendar export feature like Korganizer ....
[04:48] <mark_> but - that's not hoary's fault
[04:48] <Bandit> hello guys
[04:49] <schweeb> Evo can't export to iCal?
[04:49] <schweeb> thought it could
[04:49] <mark_> naw - not that
[04:50] <error_29> Can anyone tell me how to mount my other ubuntu partition?  All I can find googling is instructions on mounting windows partitions
[04:50] <mark_> I like Korganizer's Web Export feature -- allows me to print a 'calendar view' with all the text showing up in each calendar day
[04:50] <mark_> Maybe it's 'export to html'
[04:51] <zenrox> error_29,  read www.ubuntuguide.org
[04:51] <JDahl> sorry for off-topic: Does anyone have experience with both Arch and Subversion? I need something other than cvs for a small project (3-5 members), and from the reviews I read Subversion is probably the way to go - anyone prefers Arch instead?
[04:51] <mark_> or - maybe someone knows how to get Evolution to print the full description of an event in a day-block with the month view
[04:52] <error_29> Yes zenrox, I have been.  But it's only talking about ntfs and fat32 partitions.
[04:52] <error_29> I suppose I'll just plug in my best guesses...
[04:52] <zenrox> same tang just ext3 or what ever your file sys is tho
[04:54] <billytwowilly> can anyone recommend a program to convert ical to vcal?
[04:57] <BROKEN_LADDER> what's a good audio file tag editor?
[04:57] <BROKEN_LADDER> something that supports vorbis and aac, as well as UTF-8 of course.
[04:57] <tritium> BROKEN_LADDER, easytag
[04:58] <BROKEN_LADDER> it has major problems with utf-8
[04:58] <BROKEN_LADDER> and it tries to lowercase my genres.
[04:58] <tritium> oh, didn't know thta
[04:58] <BROKEN_LADDER> that drives me freaking bananas!
[04:58] <BROKEN_LADDER> i start typing "ALTERNATIVE" and it turns it to "Alternative".  I didn't fucking ask bitch!
[04:59] <tritium> easy there ;)
[04:59] <BROKEN_LADDER> everything does that.  grip does it, xmms does it.
[04:59] <BROKEN_LADDER> i hate that crap.
[04:59] <mark_> out of curiousity -- why do you need all caps?
[04:59] <schweeb> ugh
[04:59] <schweeb> all caps is horrid
[05:00] <GhostFreeman> I think I got my Hz Rate sorted out
[05:00] <GhostFreeman> thanks again everyone.
[05:00] <schweeb> just for future reference, punctuation and capitalization exist to make text flow better, and be more legible
[05:00] <auto> Does anyone know why blackbox would see/be able to use the artwiz fonts but fluxbox cannot?
[05:01] <auto> the fonts show up in xfontsel
[05:01] <zenrox> oh crap
[05:01] <schweeb> do they show up in the gnome font selector stuff?
[05:02] <mark_> zenrox - what are you crapping?
[05:02] <auto> let me check
[05:02] <zenrox> the netsplit
[05:03] <GhostFreeman> the internet is broken
[05:03] <auto> no they dont show up in the gnome font selector
[05:03] <schweeb> I believe flux for the most part uses your gnome settings wherever possible (if you have g-s-d loaded)
[05:03] <mark_> oh - I get it
[05:03] <schweeb> try putting the fonts in ~/.fonts
[05:03] <socomm> Haha, internet is broken.
[05:04] <Bandit> :)
[05:04] <auto> k ill try that now
[05:04] <socomm> Bad internet!
[05:04] <mark_> socomm -- no ... it might smack back ...
[05:04] <Bandit> very bad
[05:05] <schweeb> I forget how the gnome fonts and x fonts are related... I've always used x-ttcidfont-conf and they've always showed up fine in both
[05:06] <Bandit> damm 280 updates
[05:07] <BROKEN_LADDER> woah..easytag has gotten way better.
[05:07] <manco> where can I find a list of current Hoary repositories?
[05:07] <skel_home> FYI, don't waste your time witn ubuntu-amd64.. its broken
[05:07] <zenrox> Bandit,  you should do that every day
[05:07] <skel_home> ty
[05:07] <jesuel> lol
[05:07] <BROKEN_LADDER> have you checked ubuntu.org?
[05:07] <jesuel> ubuntu-amd64 isnt broken ;p
[05:07] <Bandit> lol hmm like the unstable to be as stable as possible
[05:07] <zenrox> Bandit,  may
[05:08] <BROKEN_LADDER> or tried apt-get upgrade
[05:08] <manco> is there one on the wiki?
[05:08] <manco> I didn't know for sure and thought you guys would have a better idea
[05:09] <cuga> Hey guys
[05:09] <Bandit> hello
[05:09] <jesuel> manco, what software are you looking for?
[05:09] <nastaran> helooooooo
[05:09] <cbgb> how can i still an ATI drivers to ubuntu
[05:10] <jesuel> there are bunches of repositories
[05:10] <mebaran151> jeseul, yeah
[05:10] <mebaran151> I am running AMD64
[05:10] <mebaran151> beautiful rig
[05:10] <mebaran151> it was a little choppy at first
[05:10] <jesuel> same meb
[05:10] <mebaran151> but now it is ok
[05:10] <jesuel> not choppy at all here
[05:10] <mebaran151> well
[05:10] <mebaran151> when I jumped on the boat
[05:10] <cuga> Got a question about dvd support in hoary, i just got a new dvd burner, put her in and its recognised in /media/cdrecorder, i can read cds fine but apps like mplayer freeze up when trying to play dvds, just get black screens, something else im supposed to do? using stock kernel
[05:10] <mebaran151> gnome wouldnt unpkg
[05:10] <mebaran151> evolution kept throwing floating point exceptions
[05:10] <manco> ltris, and some other games
[05:11] <mebaran151> cuga, I am fine here
[05:11] <mebaran151> cdrecorder is what it is called
[05:11] <mark_> libdvdcss2 -- that's my guess ...
[05:11] <mebaran151> what kind of dvd's
[05:11] <mebaran151> you might libdvdcss2
[05:11] <manco> I'm also getting a bad repo. address message when I do try to apt-get update
[05:11] <mebaran151> but I think that is prebundled in mplayer
[05:12] <mark_> manco - me too
[05:12] <cuga> mebaran151, yeah same here, cdrecorder is what it shows as, but when i try and play the dvd i get just a black screen and have to kill the process
[05:12] <mebaran151> hmm
[05:12] <mebaran151> sounds like a bad mplayer
[05:12] <mebaran151> try totem
[05:12] <cuga> totem crashes too
[05:12] <mebaran151> with libdvdcss2
[05:12] <mebaran151> hmmm
[05:12] <jesuel> cuga, You are missing libdvdcss2
[05:12] <mebaran151> any DVD
[05:12] <cuga> sec i'll add libdvdcss2
[05:13] <manco> just to but into you guys conversation, I think there's something wrong with the gstreamer libs
[05:13] <mebaran151> any know how good the Blackberrgy 7100t goes with Evolution
[05:13] <mebaran151> I would like to buy it
[05:13] <mebaran151> and sync it with my appts and contacts
[05:13] <MyNameIsChris> I downloaded xine and libdvdcss from apt but the audio quality is painful
[05:13] <cuga> 7100t is pimp, i want one, was looking at em this afternoon
[05:13] <manco> if you install libxine that might fix your prob
[05:13] <manco> that fixed mine
[05:13] <manco> quality sucks though
[05:14] <mebaran151> Yeah
[05:14] <mebaran151> I like them
[05:14] <mebaran151> but I really want to sync with evolution
[05:14] <mebaran151> it syncs with outlook
[05:14] <mebaran151> but evolution and outlook might not work equally
[05:14] <mebaran151> and they are not palms
[05:15] <jesuel> mebaran151, just buy it at circuit city, if it dont work. Return it easily ;p
[05:16] <zenrox> or get a linux one
[05:16] <zenrox> thare is a linux os one
[05:16] <schweeb> you're talking about the Zaurus
[05:16] <zenrox> yep
[05:17] <zenrox> and you can compile any program for the zaurus that you run on your full blowen linux system
[05:17] <schweeb> you'll want to do some reading on Evo's site about the blackberry...
[05:17] <cuga> hrmm, what apt source has libdvdcss2? i've tryed hoarys univers and debians unstable.. do i have to grab one off apt-get.org?
[05:17] <schweeb> not /any/ program
[05:17] <schweeb> but a good portion of them
[05:17] <zenrox> yep
[05:17] <zenrox> true
[05:18] <MyNameIsChris> Is it possible to set up a 5.1 channel speaker configuration in UBuntu
[05:18] <zenrox> and the reast can probly be converted easly enuf
[05:18] <schweeb> ehh
[05:18] <schweeb> depends really
[05:18] <manco> dvdcss is not on a repo go to google and get on their site to get it
[05:18] <zenrox> manco,  it is just  marelette
[05:18] <zenrox> ??
[05:19] <schweeb> zenrox: look in the debian bug database, and look at all the platform specific bugs, and you'll understand, heh
[05:19] <zenrox> ok
[05:19] <zenrox> just not today
[05:19] <cuga> That got it, Thanks alot guys
[05:19] <cuga> Mplayer opened the cd
[05:22] <wjesusaxl> Need help... I have an atheros wireless card, and the network interfaces don't work
[05:22] <wjesusaxl> do you know how to edit /etc/network/interfaces properly?
[05:24] <wjesusaxl> help me out!!!!
[05:24] <cbgb> my monitor is blurring is that a problrm with the video card?
[05:27] <wjesusaxl> can anybody help me?
[05:32] <jeff_> arg
[05:32] <jeff_> every time i load a newsgroup with pan, it just stalls
[05:33] <jeff_> and dosent display any threads :(
[05:33] <crimsun> I've not experienced such symptoms
[05:33] <crimsun> does it work with mozilla's nntp client?
[05:34] <jeff_> it "used" to work
[05:34] <jeff_> let me check
[05:34] <jeff_> when i run agent with wine it works properly
[05:35] <jeff_> where is the mozilla nntp
[05:36] <hyphen> howdy
[05:36] <crimsun> jeff_: if it's installed, under the Window menu
[05:37] <crimsun> jeff_: or in the bottom left icon area
[05:37] <hyphen> i've got a problem with my hard drive, during the partitioning of my hd when installing ubuntu i think i screwed up the partition table
[05:37] <hyphen> and now its recognized as not having a file system or partition
[05:37] <hyphen> [external hd]  anyone know how i can recover my files?
[05:38] <jeff_> nah crimsun i dont have it
[05:38] <Broncho> Hi Im trying to login to cups but its asking for root password, should I setup a root or can I login to this another way?
[05:41] <Broncho> anyone?
[05:41] <nomasteryoda> just sec
[05:41] <nomasteryoda> looking
[05:41] <Broncho> k thank you
[05:41] <nomasteryoda> the command is the same on suse ... i think
[05:42] <Broncho> to do what make root?
[05:42] <jeff_> does anyone know where i can get a copy of win4lin
[05:42] <hyphen> i need help with my hd :(  if i lose that stuff i'm dead!!
[05:42] <hyphen> lol
[05:43] <nomasteryoda> jeff_, www.win4lin.com
[05:43] <nomasteryoda> ?
[05:43] <mdz> Broncho: you are trying to login to the cups web interface?
[05:43] <nomasteryoda> going price is very low
[05:43] <Broncho> yes mdz
[05:43] <mdz> Broncho: if so, use gnome-cups-manager instead
[05:43] <mdz> computer->system administration->printing on warty
[05:43] <mdz> simpler and doesn't require root of any kind
[05:44] <schweeb> it says "Administrative tasks have been disabled for security reasons. Please use Menu System > Administration > Printing." in big red letters across the top
[05:44] <Broncho> nice
[05:44] <stuNNed> hi all, my ssh sessions keep timing out after only a few minutes of inactivity, any ideas why?
[05:44] <Broncho> thank you so much
[05:44] <mdz> schweeb: in warty as well?  I wasn't sure whether we fixed that before or after the warty release
[05:44] <schweeb> mdz: dunno, haven't run warty in a while. good point.
[05:45] <stuNNed> ssh server is ubuntu, ssh client is ubuntu
[05:45] <mdz> stuNNed: and what's in between?
[05:45] <schweeb> some routers don't have good connection tracking (including the one I'm using right now)
[05:46] <stuNNed> mdz: cheap home router, but a gentoo box on the same server network this doesn't happen
[05:47] <asubedi> when is the mouse pointer thing going to be fixed in hoary?
[05:47] <schweeb> asubedi: elaborate some
[05:47] <mdz> stuNNed: it is very unlikely that the ubuntu systems are the source of the problem
[05:47] <mdz> stuNNed: it may be that gentoo enables ssh keepalives by default or osmething
[05:48] <stuNNed> mdz: can i do ssh keepalives with ubuntu's ssh server?
[05:48] <mdz> stuNNed: yes, see the ssh_config man page
[05:48] <asubedi> schweeb: the current mouse pointer is not as nice as the one in warty
[05:48] <stuNNed> mdz: aha, so it's ssh_config and not sshd_config?
[05:49] <schweeb> hrm
[05:49] <schweeb> my sshd_config has KeepAlive yes on
[05:49] <schweeb> by default
[05:49] <Pluk> if im not mistaken ubuntu uses the jimmac cursor theme: http://www.gnomelook.org/content/show.php?content=6550
[05:49] <stuNNed> schweeb: weird then, would i set that in ssh_config as well?
[05:50] <Pluk> so you can fix it yourself if you want
[05:50] <mdz> stuNNed: sshd_config is the server configuration, ssh_config is for the client
[05:50] <klaxian> hi guys
[05:50] <klaxian> has anyone tried to use VNC 4 via X module with Hoary?
[05:51] <wjesusaxl> does anyone know about setting up atheros wireless card_
[05:51] <jordanau> yeah what card?
[05:51] <Pluk> wjesusaxl, install the linux restrcted modules
[05:51] <jordanau> atheros i see, next time i will read better
[05:52] <Pluk> they have te madwifi driver included
[05:52] <stuNNed> mdz: if you have a lan behing a firewall would you run a firewall on each individual machine as well if it's a small network?
[05:52] <wjesusaxl> It's all set up..
[05:52] <wjesusaxl> I have some problems
[05:52] <mdz> wjesusaxl: I use such a card; it works out of the box on Ubuntu
[05:52] <wjesusaxl> /etc/network/interfaces..
[05:53] <wjesusaxl> that's where my problem is..
[05:53] <wjesusaxl> it works on dhcp mode..
[05:53] <klaxian> does anyone know why my VNC 4 Viewed would hang during connection to a Hoary box using the vnc X module (VNC4)?
[05:53] <cuga> wow, playing dvd bringing cpu to 60%, that normal?
[05:53] <wjesusaxl> wireless_mode managed
[05:53] <wjesusaxl> wireless_channel 6
[05:53] <wjesusaxl> wireless_essid RED
[05:53] <wjesusaxl> do I have to add any other line_
[05:53] <wjesusaxl> ?
[05:54] <stuNNed> mdz: maybe it's because the cheap router has a firewall built in and i'm using iptables as well on the ubuntu box behind that router?
[05:55] <Pluk> wjesusaxl, http://nopaste.biz/?1213 is how my /etc/network/interfaces looks like with 128bits wep
[05:55] <Brunellus> hi out there.  I've got a couple of dual-boot questions.
[05:55] <klaxian> no one has any experience with VNC 4 and Hoary? :(
[05:55] <Pluk> wjesusaxl,  the hwaddress entries there are just for my situation
[05:56] <Brunellus> I have an HP desktop PC, and I'd like to make it a dual-boot winXP/ubuntu machine
[05:56] <crimsun> klaxian: I just use vino with tightvnc viewer
[05:56] <wjesusaxl> what is hwaddress ether... your AP's MAC???
[05:56] <Brunellus> presently, the hard drive has two partitions:  C, where windows lives
[05:56] <Pluk> no my nic mac
[05:56] <Brunellus> and D, which is the "hp-recover" partition
[05:56] <schweeb> asubedi: hrm, I never even noticed till now that the cursor theme was missing, heh
[05:56] <klaxian> crimsun: what's vino?  can it remote desktop :0?
[05:56] <Pluk> its just for me to change my mac address you dont need that entry
[05:56] <wjesusaxl> ok
[05:57] <helloyo> i've just discovered that its my RAM causing all my segfaults, is there a way of determning what RAM i can put in this computer in ubuntu>
[05:57] <wjesusaxl> what about
[05:57] <wjesusaxl> the channel?
[05:57] <wjesusaxl> does it matter?
[05:57] <Brunellus> could I just create an ubuntu partition and a linux swap, and then will it run?
[05:57] <Pluk> channel is set by the AP
[05:57] <Pluk> so its auto detected
[05:57] <wjesusaxl> ok
[05:57] <neighborlee> where is synaptic in hoary ? ;0
[05:58] <wjesusaxl> I installed my nic driver by ndiswrapping
[05:58] <neighborlee> nm
[05:58] <neighborlee> no matter..ill just apt-get the thing lol
[05:58] <wjesusaxl> it'd be good enought. wouln't it?
[05:58] <Pluk> ndiswrapper is kinda an overkill cuz atheros is native supported :)
[05:58] <helloyo> how do i check that specs of the RAM i have in my computer?
[05:59] <MacPlusG3> helloyo: as in how much you have, how much is free etc? 'free -m'
[05:59] <MacPlusG3> helloyo: or the system monitor application
[05:59] <helloyo> MacPlusG3, what type of ram, speed, etc
[06:00] <wjesusaxl> I'll check.. I'll be back rigth quick
[06:00] <wjesusaxl> exit
[06:00] <MacPlusG3> helloyo: type, speed etc is a bit harder to get. generally motherboard specific
[06:00] <crimsun> klaxian: Vino _is_ the remote desktop :-)
[06:00] <helloyo> MacPlusG3, is there a way to get my motherboard name?
[06:00] <klaxian> crimsun: ah yes I'm looking at it now...how can I start it on his machine remotely?
[06:01] <farruinn> helloyo: maybe the device manager or whatever it's called
[06:01] <farruinn> klaxian: if he has ubuntu it's "started", he just needs to change his "Remote Desktop" preferences
[06:02] <klaxian> ah, can I do that for him remotely?
[06:02] <MacPlusG3> helloyo: have a look it /sys.. you may get some info... but that's the closest you're going to get
[06:02] <Coily> quick networking question: should disabling ssid broadcasting disable computers from connecting to the network wirelessly?
[06:03] <klaxian> farruinn: is there any way to do it via SSH remotely?
[06:04] <wjesusaxl> it didn't work .. I pinged my gateway
[06:04] <wjesusaxl> From 192.168.0.35 icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unreachable
[06:04] <wjesusaxl> F
[06:05] <wjesusaxl> That's what I got :(
[06:05] <farruinn> klaxian: yeah, I was just looking - in his .gconf/desktop/gnome/remote_access/%gconf.xml you can change the settings
[06:05] <Pluk> your using ndiswrapper so i guess your interfase isnt ath0 but wlan0
[06:05] <Pluk> interface*
[06:05] <wjesusaxl> it is ath0
[06:06] <stuNNed> you guys ever heard  of ipkungfu?
[06:06] <Pluk> ifup ath0
[06:06] <mebaran151> no
[06:06] <wjesusaxl> done
[06:06] <wjesusaxl> DHCPDISCOVER on ath0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 7
[06:06] <Pluk> ok
[06:06] <Pluk> let it run
[06:07] <Pluk> mine takes 3-4 of those steps
[06:07] <klaxian> farruinn: ok i will try
[06:08] <Levander> Is there a GUI ftp client in the ubuntu repositories?  I really need one for what I'm trying to do right now.
[06:08] <Pluk> wjesusaxl, if it doesnt give a lease paste your /etc/network/interfaces here: http://nopaste.biz/
[06:08] <Pluk> Levander, gftp
[06:08] <farruinn> klaxian: I can msg you what I have in mine if you need
[06:09] <Levander> Pluk: thanks, trying it now
[06:09] <klaxian> farruinn: it's ok, i'm having him set it in the GUI...i will try it in a sec after I restart gdm
[06:09] <farruinn> Levander: nautilus is supposed to be able to do it as well (file>connect to server)
[06:09] <farruinn> klaxian: that's probably the easiest way
[06:11] <wjesusaxl> DHCPOFFER from 192.168.0.1
[06:11] <wjesusaxl> DHCPREQUEST on ath0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
[06:11] <wjesusaxl> DHCPACK from 192.168.0.1
[06:11] <wjesusaxl> bound to 192.168.0.35 -- renewal in 506163 seconds.
[06:11] <wjesusaxl> it looks as though the gateway is answering somehow
[06:11] <klaxian> farruinn: it still seems to hang and not let me in
[06:11] <wjesusaxl> guys?
[06:11] <Levander> Pluk: when I did a --simulate install on gftp, i got an error coming up saying it wouldn't install gftp-text
[06:11] <Pluk> well at least you get an ip wjesusaxl  :)
[06:11] <Levander> u installed gftp without problem?
[06:11] <Pluk> Levander, your using hoary?
[06:12] <Levander> Pluk: no, using warty
[06:12] <farruinn> klaxian: are you both using the same version of ubuntu?
[06:12] <wjesusaxl> auto ath0
[06:12] <wjesusaxl> iface ath0 inet dhcp
[06:12] <wjesusaxl>    wireless_essid RED2
[06:12] <Pluk> you still cant ping the gateway wjesusaxl ?
[06:12] <farruinn> klaxian: maybe the vnc server version he has isn't compatible with the version of your vncviewer
[06:12] <Pluk> it must be a little bug Levander will probably be fixed in a day
[06:13] <billytwowilly> what's the name of the program that will make rpms and debs from tar.gz files?
[06:13] <wjesusaxl> auto ath0
[06:13] <wjesusaxl> iface ath0 inet dhcp
[06:13] <wjesusaxl>    wireless_essid RED2
[06:13] <jeff_> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match my running kernel?
[06:13] <mdz> billytwowilly: it's called "bad news" :-)
[06:13] <mdz> billytwowilly: but I think you mean checkinstall
[06:14] <billytwowilly> yay, thanks.
[06:14] <mdz> jeff_: /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build/include
[06:14] <wjesusaxl> are my interfaces ok?
[06:14] <Pluk> yeah they are wjesusaxl
[06:14] <bryan> jeff, you running ubuntu in vmware?
[06:15] <wjesusaxl> I think there's something missing
[06:15] <BROKEN_LADDER> when people try to download .m4a or .ogg files from my site, they are displayed as text instead of being downloaded.  is that something that can be partly due to settings in apache that specify header info?
[06:15] <Pluk> at least if your AP doesnt have any security
[06:15] <wjesusaxl> not at all
[06:15] <Levander> narrowed the gftp install problem down a little, the problem seems to be an error message that say "gftp-text: Depends gftp-common (= 2.0.17-6) but 2.0.17-6ubuntu0.2 is to be installed" - seems like it's just confused about the ubuntu string being in the version number
[06:15] <mdz> BROKEN_LADDER: yes.  clearly you aren't running Ubuntu on your server ;-)
[06:16] <Pluk> wjesusaxl, but you still cant ping 192.168.0.1?
[06:16] <wjesusaxl> let me try... becauseI need to ifdown eth0
[06:16] <error_29> I just upgraded to hoary, and so far the weirdest effect has been on gnome terminal and xterm -- if I resize the window by dragging the corner, a little pop-up window appears displaying the window size coordinates.  This is really annoying. Anyone know how I can turn that behavior off?
[06:16] <wjesusaxl> i' brb
[06:16] <bryan> BROKEN_LADDER, AddType application/ogg     ogg
[06:16] <Levander> fuck, i was so close to getting a static mirror of my blog online!
[06:17] <BROKEN_LADDER> how do i add a type to my apache config?
[06:17] <wjesusaxl> nooooo
[06:18] <bryan> i think you can put it in a .htaccess file
[06:18] <wjesusaxl> I can't ping my gatewat
[06:18] <wjesusaxl> I can't ping my gateway
[06:18] <Pluk> wjesusaxl, paste your interfaces file on http://nopaste.biz/
[06:19] <helio7> hey all: helping a brand new to linux friend (i'm relatively new myself) and he lost the gdm login screen, it's just black and he has to type everything "blind" any ideas of what that could be?
[06:19] <wjesusaxl> http://nopaste.biz/?1214
[06:20] <tizen> helio7: if he restarts X its still blank?
[06:20] <wjesusaxl> http://nopaste.biz/?1214
[06:20] <helio7> tizen: restarting X via alt+cntrl+backspace?
[06:21] <tizen> yeah
[06:21] <Pluk> wjesusaxl, after bringing eth0 down did you bring ath0 down and up again?
[06:21] <Pluk> dunno if thats necesary though
[06:21] <jeff_> ya bryan
[06:21] <wjesusaxl> yeath both of them are down
[06:22] <tizen> helio7: or get into a console login and dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[06:22] <jeff_> its asking me for the C header files
[06:22] <wjesusaxl> and just ath0 goes up
[06:22] <Pluk> could you post: ifconfig ath0 on http://nopaste.biz/
[06:23] <helio7> tizen: I just got him to run dpkg --configure -a
[06:23] <error_29> hello again.  i lost my connection right after asking a question about pop-ups when resizing gnome-terminal-- I don't suppose anybody replied to that?
[06:23] <sri> anybody usin ghoary with a thinkpad t42p?
[06:23] <Pluk> i use it here on a t42 non p
[06:23] <sri> hoary not ghoary :)
[06:23] <Pluk> :)
[06:23] <sri> Pluk: do you have the FireGL ati card in yours?
[06:23] <farruinn> at least it's not gory...
[06:23] <Pluk> nope 9600
[06:24] <sri> k
[06:24] <sri> I'm trying to set up my T42p so that it can do both internal and external monitors
[06:24] <Pluk> you have the fglrx driver installed?
[06:24] <sri> the thing is I'd like to have both laptop mode and clone mode :-)
[06:24] <bryan> jeff: apt-get install linux-headers-YOUR.KERNEL.HERE
[06:24] <stuNNed> mdz: i think it's something screwy in my keepalive tcp settings and firewall, thanks
[06:24] <sri> Pluk: I do.
[06:25] <wjesusaxl> http://nopaste.biz/?1215
[06:25] <jeff_> do i have to do it bryan
[06:25] <wjesusaxl> http://nopaste.biz/?1215
[06:25] <bryan> if you want to install vmwaretools or whatever it is
[06:25] <bryan> you don't *have* to
[06:26] <jeff_> so where do i tell it
[06:26] <jeff_> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[06:26] <jeff_> kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] 
[06:26] <Pluk> sri, havent tried that myself, only with the tvout
[06:26] <sri> Pluk: yeah, I don't see one wher eyou can switch to different modes
[06:26] <sri> If I wna to use my laptop for a presentation it needs to show up on both screens
[06:27] <sri> I'll ask in fdo
[06:27] <wjesusaxl> my Ap works with 2.4Ghz...
[06:27] <bryan> you have to install them first
[06:27] <Pluk> you tried fglrxconfig?
[06:27] <bryan> or else you don't have them
[06:27] <bryan> they're not installed out of the box
[06:27] <Pluk> fglrxconfig has nice options with dualscreen
[06:28] <Pluk> wjesusaxl, i dont know anymore, you get an ip so its weird you cant ping the gateway
[06:28] <wjesusaxl> http://nopaste.biz/?1215
[06:28] <wjesusaxl> yeah.. I know...
[06:29] <wjesusaxl> you negotiate through the DHCP an IP
[06:29] <brad> hi, when can i download the 5.04 release???
[06:29] <brad> thanks!
[06:29] <crimsun> brad: in april :-)
[06:29] <brad> i hear wed?
[06:29] <jeff_> bryan how do i install th em
[06:29] <crimsun> brad: wednesday is the _preview_ release.
[06:29] <brad> right
[06:29] <bryan> jeff: apt-get install linux-headers-YOUR.KERNEL.HERE
[06:30] <brad> is that going to be real buggy?
[06:30] <TWM> preview release? cool...
[06:30] <jeff_> and how do i get the value for YOUR KERNEL HERE
[06:30] <Pluk> wjesusaxl, comment auto eth0 to #auto eth0 and restart
[06:30] <sri> Pluk: I'm trying it now.
[06:30] <Pluk> maybe that will fix it?
[06:30] <sri> Pluk: I want to turn off some stuff because I want suspend to work.
[06:30] <rattboi> I have a question.
[06:30] <Pluk> sri i thonk your out of luck then, fglrx and acpi dont work
[06:30] <Pluk> think*
[06:30] <wjesusaxl> ok
[06:30] <brad> i mean would you reccomend me downloading it or should i wait for 5.20?
[06:30] <sri> Pluk: well I think it does, you just can't use the 3D acceleration
[06:31] <rattboi> I installed ubuntu, then XP, and XP overwrote MBR, so how do I get grub back?
[06:31] <crimsun> 20? what month does 20 correspond to? ;-)
[06:31] <Pluk> ah yeah that possible too
[06:31] <Pluk> i just use radeon driver so i can suspend
[06:31] <stub> Is there  a way to add items to the main Gnome menu using the GUI? I could have sworn I have done if before but I can't remember what to click where.
[06:31] <sri> Pluk: I don't need 3D as it's a business laptop
[06:31] <rattboi> stub, it was there,  but it's removed
[06:31] <sri> Pluk: well I might need it if I'm going on travel..but..
[06:32] <rattboi> because of freedesktop standard
[06:32] <stub> rattboi: Ta.
[06:32] <farruinn> rattboi: I *think* you could try booting from the install cd, doing the manual partiton, setting / to "keep data"
[06:32] <farruinn> rattboi: it probably won't work, but that's what I would try
[06:32] <Pluk> sri, you could indeed make a working fglrx config and then comment out glx and perhaps dri
[06:32] <rattboi> how about with a live cd?
[06:32] <bryan> jeff: uname -a
[06:32] <sri> Pluk: yeah thats what I did.
[06:33] <sri> Pluk: it's kind of hard to get the info because it's not centralized..
[06:33] <Pluk> indeed :)
[06:33] <bryan> should give you somethign like "Linux ubuntu 2.6.10-4-686 #1 Wed Mar 2 06:19:32 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux"
[06:33] <sri> Pluk: can I just copy XF86Config-4 to xorg.conf?
[06:33] <sri> Pluk: I'd bug daniels but he's not around atm
[06:33] <Pluk> yeah but i thought you had to change the keyboard driver from keyboard to Keyboard
[06:33] <Pluk> or vice versa
[06:34] <sri> Oh..let me do that.
[06:34] <bryan> kbd
[06:34] <davebgimp_> Hi there, I have a recent install of ubuntu. New to using it. Everything seemed fine till I ran an update from the commnad line. Now when GNOME starts, the signal to my monitor dies. I have to enter the user and password blind. Once doing this, GNOME boots. Is there a way I can fix this?
[06:35] <helio7> tizen: davebgimp_ is the one I was just asking about a moment ago (=
[06:35] <brad> hey, i thought 5.20 was going to be teh real hoary release
[06:35] <eb0x> How do I install GLIB?
[06:35] <sri> okay, lets see what happens
[06:35] <eb0x> er
[06:35] <eb0x> zlib*
[06:35] <Pluk> good luck :)
[06:35] <sri> thanks gonna need it methinks
[06:36] <jeff_> how do i remove a package
[06:36] <brad> crimsum: do you reccomend the preview release?
[06:36] <bryan> apt-get remove packagename
[06:37] <Pluk> or apt-get remove --purge packagename if you want to remove config files also
[06:37] <eb0x> Pluk,
[06:37] <eb0x> Do you know how to install zlib?
[06:37] <TWM> I can't access the internet from my linux box (parents use aol on win xp :( ) - is it possible to download the apt-get packages i need seperately?
[06:38] <Pluk> eb0x, apt-cache search zlib gives a few options
[06:38] <jeff_> can i flood the chan? i get all knda shit when i run
[06:38] <jeff_> sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.8.1-5-386
[06:38] <Pluk> jeff_, http://nopaste.biz/
[06:38] <bryan> or http://pastebin.com/
[06:38] <Pluk> :)
[06:39] <crypticreign> just upgraded to hoary, boots to Saving VESA state, then freezes
[06:39] <crypticreign> this is a laptop
[06:39] <jeff_> http://nopaste.biz/?1216
[06:40] <SiRrUs> jeff_ you trying to install a new kernel?
[06:40] <Pluk> weird dependency
[06:40] <jeff_> no kernal .c headers
[06:40] <brad> crypticreign: are you on 5.04?
[06:40] <crypticreign> brad: yes
[06:41] <eb0x> eb0x@ubuntu:~ $ apt-cache search zlib
[06:41] <eb0x> libmng1 - Multiple-image Network Graphics library
[06:41] <eb0x> zlib1g - compression library - runtime
[06:41] <brad> crypticreign: i thought we had to wait to tomorrow to download it
[06:41] <Pluk> jeff_, it depends on _one_ of these packages but it cant choose itself
[06:41] <SiRrUs> 5.04 is out in April
[06:41] <eb0x> E: Couldn't find package zliblg
[06:41] <eb0x> root@ubuntu:/home/eb0x #
[06:41] <eb0x> :/
[06:41] <brad> crypticreign: how is it?
[06:41] <Pluk> eb0x, zlib1g not zliblg
[06:41] <bryan> jeff, try kernel-headers instead of linux-headers
[06:41] <eb0x> oh woops
[06:41] <eb0x> Lol
[06:41] <eb0x> Thanks
[06:41] <crypticreign> brad: well, considering i cant noot, i dont know
[06:41] <Pluk> :)
[06:41] <crypticreign> *boot
[06:42] <jeff_> no such package
[06:42] <SiRrUs> brad hoary runs very well
[06:42] <Pluk> jeff_, install one of these packages first: i should install libsdl1.2debian-alsa or libsdl1.2debian-esd
[06:42] <Pluk> and then install the headers
[06:42] <bradg> Hey everyone.  I was wondering if the final version of hoary would use 2.6.11.  Does anyone know?
[06:43] <brad> sirrus: did you do mysteryhunt?
[06:43] <kingsley> Is there a module, core file or something that can diagnose why a kernel crashes?
[06:43] <SiRrUs> ?
[06:43] <brad> sirrus: ok, thougth so
[06:43] <brad> sirrus: i have to wait till tomorrow to download the ISO right?
[06:43] <brad> crypticreign: thats too bad
[06:44] <crypticreign> Laptop - just upgraded to hoary, boots to Saving VESA state, then freezes  anyone know?
[06:44] <SiRrUs> brad LOOK AT THE CHANNEL TOPIC
[06:44] <SiRrUs> oops
[06:44] <SiRrUs> sorry caps
[06:44] <eb0x> configure: error: zlib needed
[06:44] <eb0x> eb0x@ubuntu:~/xine-lib-1.0 $
[06:44] <jeff_> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[06:44] <jeff_>   gnomemeeting gstreamer0.8-sdl libopenal0 libsdl-image1.2 libsdl-mixer1.2
[06:44] <jeff_>   libsdl-net1.2 libsdl-sound1.2 libsdl1.2debian libsmpeg0 rss-glx tecnoballz
[06:44] <jeff_>   ubuntu-desktop
[06:44] <SiRrUs> hoary has been out for a couple of months
[06:44] <eb0x> -_- it says its all in there :/
[06:44] <SiRrUs> in testing stages
[06:45] <jeff_> if i do that it will fuck up my desktop
[06:45] <jeff_> right?
[06:45] <Pluk> indeed
[06:45] <Pluk> well just sound actually
[06:45] <brad> sirrus: right, you're not on the preview release then, right?
[06:45] <jeff_> :(
[06:45] <eb0x> If it says all of that stuff is already installed, how do I get this error fixed?
[06:45] <jeff_> i dont know what to do
[06:45] <eb0x> configure: error: zlib needed
[06:45] <eb0x> eb0x@ubuntu:~/xine-lib-1.0 $
[06:45] <brad> sirrus: that comes out wednesday
[06:45] <SiRrUs> brad for about 2 months now
[06:45] <Pluk> jeff_, you have that also with libsdl1.2debian-esd?
[06:46] <brad> sirrus: right i understand that hoary has been testing for a while, what exactly is the preview release 5.04 then?
[06:46] <brad> sirrus: whats the deal?
[06:47] <SiRrUs> brad have you read the channel topic
[06:47] <jeff_> http://nopaste.biz/?1217
[06:48] <jeff_> Pluk,
[06:48] <brad> sirrus: yes, are you saying that i'm not asking for support?
[06:48] <bryan> brad: Array 6 is released! http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/hoary/array-6/
[06:48] <Pluk> jeff_, i guess there are some problems now with it, will prolly get fixed tomorrow
[06:49] <crypticreign> yeah, thats what i installed array 6
[06:49] <Kennyjb402> help I tried to log in, but ubuntu wont let me....it says that it cant read /home/***/ .ICEauthority, I think I might of throw that file away by mistake, what can I do to get back in my system?
[06:49] <brad> bryan: what's array6?  is that 5.04?
[06:49] <SiRrUs> brad read the topic cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/hoary/array-6
[06:49] <jeff_> can i install linux headers without libsdl
[06:50] <Pluk> prolly not
[06:50] <bradg> brad, There will be a big, official preview release tomorrow.  Then, April 6th will be the final release.
[06:50] <bryan> hrmm
[06:50] <bryan> my horay updater just popped up with 4 new updates
[06:51] <bryan> among them 'ubuntu-base' and 'ubuntu-desktop'
[06:51] <brad> cool, thanks guys!  that
[06:51] <brad> 's all i wanted to know
[06:52] <Kennyjb402> anyone?
[06:53] <zenrox> Kennyjb402,  log in tharu a terminal and del that file
[06:53] <Kennyjb402> what file?
[06:53] <zenrox> then relogin tharu gui
[06:53] <zenrox> .ICEauthority
[06:53] <Kennyjb402> ok thnx
[06:53] <zenrox> out of your home die
[06:53] <zenrox> dir
[06:53] <zenrox> err /home/user
[06:53] <Kennyjb402> ok
[06:54] <Kennyjb402> brb
[06:54] <zenrox> ok
[06:54] <farruinn> Kennyjb402: don't run gui apps with sudo, use gksudo
[06:54] (zenrox/#ubuntu) to fast farruinn
[06:54] <farruinn> huh?
[06:55] <jeff_> farruinn, so i shuold do gksudo synaptic insted of sudo synaptic
[06:55] <jeff_> ?
[06:55] <zenrox> he quit before you said that
[06:55] <farruinn> zenrox: oh =) I have /ignore * QUITS otherwise it's too freaking loud in here
[06:55] <zenrox> farruinn,  i dont mind i can keeep up
[06:55] <farruinn> jeff_: yeah, that's what the launcher in the menu is iirc
[06:56] <farruinn> wtf, I just ran ./configure on something and this was one of the lines: checking for life_signs in -lKenny... no
[06:56] <farruinn>   Oh my god, they killed Kenny!  You bastards!
[06:57] <zenrox> lol
[06:58] <zenrox> farruinn,  do that agine
[06:58] <zenrox> for Kennyjb402
[06:58] <zenrox> Kennyjb402,  that fix it
[06:58] <Kennyjb402> zenrox: what command would I use to del a file?
[06:58] <Kennyjb402> not yet
[06:59] <zenrox> Kennyjb402,  rm .ICEauthority
[06:59] <Kennyjb402> thnx again :)
[06:59] <zenrox> n/p
[06:59] <Kennyjb402> brb again
[07:00] <bryan> so...very...bored
[07:01] <bryan> what's that?
[07:02] <bryan> window manager?
[07:02] <blizah> yea
[07:02] <maximaus> yup, it's an easy compile to pass the time. LOL
[07:03] <robo2x> has anyone had any luck configuring a wacom tablet under warty? i tried following the online guide, but adding evdev to blacklist causes gdm to not start
[07:03] <Kennyjb402> zenrox thanks that did the trick
[07:04] <BiteMeBill> What the command to see if your running Warty or Hoary?
[07:04] <helio7> uhhh where did my XF86Config file go? did a patch relocate it?  everythings working fine, just trying to help a friend and it's suddenly not there /etc/X11/XFConfig
[07:04] <BiteMeBill> helio7: XF86Config
[07:04] <bryan> /etc/X11/XF86Config-4
[07:04] <helio7> yeah that's what I meant ty type
[07:05] <echostorm> hey all.
[07:05] <helio7> bryan: why the 4 ending? is that new?
[07:06] <helio7> either I'm going loco or XF86Config didn't use to end in "4"
[07:06] <echostorm> first time linux user (actually 2nd tried debian yesterday) i was curious of 2 things... one my screensize is like uber small ...any way to set it to 800x600? oh and also, how can i find out what kernal i have?>
[07:06] <bryan> how do you use 800x600
[07:07] <jeff_> does anyone have a VMWare Key?
[07:07] <dead|shell> echostorm, have you used the termina at all
[07:07] <echostorm> yes
[07:07] <dead|shell> terminal^
[07:07] <bryan> 1280x1024!
[07:07] <bryan> nothing less
[07:07] <HrdwrBoB> helio7: if you updated to hoary it's xorg.conf
[07:07] <dead|shell> thats what i use bryan
[07:07] <echostorm> I was able to install software and configure a few things in debian yet, i have the hang of the terminal
[07:08] <echostorm> yesterday i mean (yet)
[07:08] <da_bon_bon> hi all
[07:08] <Pluk> hi da_bon_bon
[07:08] <helio7> HrdwrBoB: this box is still on Warty, I was sure it used to be called XF86Config without the -4 on the end but it doesn't matter I guess
[07:09] <dead|shell> echostorm, scroll down until you see monitor config stuff http://www.angelfire.com/empire/ofburntsouls/x.html
[07:09] <Pluk> helio7, im pretty sure its XF86Config-4
[07:09] <Pluk> always have been on debian systems
[07:09] <Pluk> well maybe not in the really old days
[07:09] <bryan> helio7:  it's because warty uses XF86 4.whatever
[07:09] <helio7> Pluk: yeah that's what it's showing as; I musta got confused; thanks
[07:10] <bryan> i think it jumped right from 3.6 to 4.x
[07:10] <echostorm> thanx deadshell. wow its weird firefox delays like that when looking for a webpage. (never did with windows or the other dist)
[07:10] <bryan> i find firefox laggy too, compared to ff on windows
[07:11] <Pluk> echostorm, its possibly looking for ipv6
[07:11] <Pluk> in the addressbar type about:config
[07:11] <Pluk> then filter ipv6
[07:11] <bryan> network.dns.disableipv6
[07:12] <Pluk> et that to true
[07:12] <Pluk> set*
[07:12] <dead|shell> echostorm, as far as your kernel info try the command uname
[07:12] <Pluk> indeed
[07:12] <bryan> uname -a
[07:12] <dead|shell> thanks bryan
[07:12] <farruinn> who was looking for an os X dock look-alike last night?
[07:12] <echostorm> ahh
[07:13] <bryan> i wasn't, but you can link me if you know of one
[07:13] <echostorm> 2.6.8.1-3-386 #1 lol ok i was just making sure it was 2.6 to make my life easier with my cdwriter, when i get to testing that out
[07:14] <echostorm> ok  wow thanx for the help guys :)
[07:14] <bryan> i was so happy when my dvd writer worked without having to mess around with crap
[07:16] <echostorm> wow that ipv fix worked like magic
[07:16] <klashniv> farruinn: tell us more about the OS X dock
[07:17] <dazed> i get this wierd ass error when runnin konqueror
[07:17] <farruinn> klashniv: I just built engage from enlightenment cvs and it looks very promising
[07:17] <dazed> can anyone help?
[07:17] <klashniv> i wonder why ipv6 was added to ff anyway, is it in use alot now?
[07:17] <farruinn> klashniv: unfortunately I don't think it's going to work properly until I install e17
[07:18] <echostorm> i have said wow too much... guess im still dazed about everything... going to take awile to understand this os
[07:18] <klashniv> farruinn: will google around and see what I can dig up
[07:18] <Pluk> enjoy echostorm :)
[07:18] <farruinn> klashniv: www.enlightenment.org
[07:18] <dead|shell> heres a screen shot with a mac like dock http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=3/6700172123.png&s=x2
[07:18] <dazed> what does dcopserver mean?
[07:19] <bryan> echostorm:  if you can find "Learning Debian GNU Linux" it's a good start
[07:19] <MacPlusG3> echostorm: if you're wanting 800x600 for bigger fonts, try increasing the minimum font sizes instead. Unlike windows, it actually works here (well, a lot better at least)
[07:20] <bryan> it's an OReilly book, a little outdated because it's from 99, but still gives you a good reference
[07:20] <MacPlusG3> echostorm: you'll find that things look a lot nicer with bigger fonts instead of lower resolutions
[07:20] <klashniv> farruinn: thanks, google will also turn up other peoples' experiences :)
[07:20] <samushka> i installed warty, went to my apt-get sources.list, and changed the words warty to hoary, and performed a dist-upgrade. problem is, now when i login into GNOME, i dont have my 1600x1200 resolution anymore, i think that maybe its still useing XFREE ?
[07:20] <dead|shell> echostorm, on that site i showed you i have instructions for a new kernel as well
[07:22] <dead|shell> samushka, try cat /etc/X11/XF86Config-4
[07:22] <samushka> how can i switch to XORG ?
[07:22] <dead|shell> see if thats the file and edit it samushka
[07:22] <dead|shell> can it be apt'ed
[07:22] <dead|shell> ?
[07:23] <samushka> i think its already isntalled, in other words, how can i uninstall XFREE and use XORG instead
[07:23] <samushka> (btw, XF86Config-4 file has the 1600x1200 mode enabled, so thats odd..)
[07:23] <Pluk> samushka, apt-get remove  xserver-xfree86
[07:24] <Pluk> and have xserver-xorg installed
[07:24] <samushka> k
[07:24] <samushka> brb
[07:24] <mebaran151> can someone direct me to the Java wiki
[07:24] <mebaran151> I want to develop Java apps in 64 bits
[07:24] <mebaran151> AMD64
[07:24] <mebaran151> should webapplets work in 64 bits
[07:24] <mebaran151> also
[07:25] <hayden> how can i tell if my dialup modem works (seeing that i havent got a dialup connection where i am)
[07:25] <bryan> call a friend
[07:25] <hayden> ?
[07:25] <DazeD||laptop> lol
[07:26] <bryan> (with the modem)
[07:26] <maximaus> hayden, you can at least see if linux recognizes the modem with "sudo pppconfig"
[07:26] <hayden> ok thats more like it
[07:26] <farruinn> wow.... e17 is awesome...
[07:27] <hayden> farruinn, have u got it running?
[07:27] <farruinn> hayden: yeah, just built it from cvs
[07:27] <farruinn> I was building/installing all the necessary libs this afternoon
[07:27] <blizah> whats a good bittorrent client to use in linxu?
[07:27] <blizah> the bittornado i got through synaptic is just ok
[07:28] <midgewa> is there anyone there who knows like... everything there is to know about installing ubuntu?
[07:28] <maximaus> blizah, I use Azureus, but it's quite heavy and needs Java. Nice client though.
[07:28] <zu22> how can i get ubuntu to use Chinese language for everything? (web fonts, system fonts, console, etc...)
[07:28] <zu22> i looked in languages but see no chinese option :(
[07:29] <blizah> yea i like azureus, would like one about like that but not so resource hungry
[07:30] <bryan> there's ABC, but doesn't look like it'
[07:30] <bryan> s still being maintained
[07:30] <zu22> hello?
[07:30] <midgewa> is there anyone there who knows like... everything there is to know about installing ubuntu?
[07:30] <midgewa> and lives in sydney
[07:30] <blizah> i wish i could help zu
[07:30] <blizah> bryan ill go look
[07:31] <jba> midgewa, spit the question out
[07:31] <blizah> ah abc is fine
[07:31] <blizah> does it support multiple downloads?
[07:32] <dazed> how do i check if my dcopserver is running
[07:32] <dazed> Konqueror keeps givin me an error about that
[07:33] <Pluk> dazed,  ps -aux |grep dcoperver ?
[07:33] <Pluk> dcopserver*
[07:34] <midgewa> well.. i have a fkn old pc and i wanna install ubuntu onto it.. i have never installed linux and yeah
[07:34] <midgewa> i burnt it to a cd and set the BIOS to boot from the cd
[07:34] <midgewa> but it just booted 98
[07:34] <midgewa> did i burn it wrong?
[07:34] <bryan> how did you burn it?
[07:35] <midgewa> well the download came in a rar file, so i unpacked that
[07:35] <midgewa> and burnt the folder to a cd
[07:35] <midgewa> thats how my mate did it for windows and that worked :S
[07:35] <mebaran151> Java anyone
[07:35] <bryan> umm
[07:35] <bryan> it didn't come as a iso?
[07:35] <midgewa> errr... no
[07:36] <Pluk> weird
[07:36] <midgewa> it came as "warty-release-intall-i386.rar
[07:37] <Pluk> must be windows xp in automagic rename mode
[07:37] <blizah> says abc is still in linux beta?
[07:37] <midgewa> then i unpacked that... and it was just a folder with heaps of stuff in it
[07:37] <blizah> beta work alright?
[07:37] <tuxJr_14> hi
[07:37] <midgewa> so am i burning it wrong?
[07:37] <bryan> just an idea
[07:37] <midgewa> do i need to download a different file/
[07:37] <dazed> sorry plek got kicked off: but it returned a bunch of numbers for root and a bunch of numbers for my user name
[07:37] <_4strO> i think midgewa is on a hidden reconnized file extension
[07:37] <Pluk> midgewa, rename the file to whatever.iso then burn it as an image
[07:37] <dazed> pluk*
[07:38] <midgewa> umm ok
[07:38] <midgewa> ill try that pluk
[07:38] <bryan> maybe you've got 'hide known file extensions" turned on if you're using XP
[07:38] <sihen> hello all
[07:38] <midgewa> so i then just try to boot off the CD?
[07:38] <bryan> and you installed winrar and set to to handle iso files
[07:38] <Pluk> indeed
[07:38] <sihen> can anyone possible tell me where i can get some nice x themes from for ubuntu
[07:39] <Pluk> sihen, check http://www.gnomelook.org/
[07:39] <bryan> sihen:   http://gnome-look.org/
[07:39] <Pluk> hahah
[07:39] <Pluk> lol
[07:39] <Kennyjb402> sihen: did you try www.gnome-look.org?
[07:39] <DazeD||laptop> pluk im still gettin that error
[07:40] <DazeD||laptop> please cehck dcopserver program is running
[07:40] <midgewa> ok im burning it again now, will check back when i try it
[07:40] <Pluk> you can check if its running with ps -aux |grep dcopserver
[07:40] <DazeD||laptop> i did
[07:40] <Pluk> but i really dont know anything about dcopserver though
[07:40] <DazeD||laptop> how do i tell if its running
[07:40] <DazeD||laptop> oh
[07:41] <sihen> going to take a look now
[07:41] <sihen> thanks guys
[07:41] <Kennyjb402> np
[07:45] <midgewa> it booted windows 98 again
[07:45] <midgewa> didnt even come up with an option for something else
[07:45] <midgewa> can i install it inside 98?
[07:49] <ells> does anyone know of a good tool or method to combine vob files to a dvd to watch on my home player
[08:02] <midgewa> noone helping?
[08:03] <blizah> will i be able to install a rpm file on ubuntu   (its bittorent 4.0.0
[08:03] <delltony> anyone here have a few mins to hell me setup proftpd ?
[08:04] <jeff_> hey guys how do i make a .iso file from a cd rom
[08:04] <bryan> blizah:
[08:04] <bryan> alien file.rpm
[08:04] <bryan> it'll make a .deb file
[08:05] <topyli> jeff_: mkisofs?
[08:05] <delltony> dd if=/dev/hdc of=mycd.iso  should do it
[08:05] <bryan> then dpkg -i file.deb
[08:05] <blizah> ah ok
[08:05] <jeff_> thx
[08:06] <topyli> oh yeah, dd :)
[08:07] <delltony> the double dds are nice ;)
[08:07] <viper12> evening all.  anyone else notice that trash applet doesn't always 'empty' even though it "IS" empty?
[08:07] <delltony> man this stinks i can't figure proftpd out for jack is there something for ftp server that foo's like me can figure out really fast
[08:08] <blizah> so to install BitTorrent-4.0.0-1.noarch.rpm   id do "sudo apt-get BitTorrent-4.0.0-1.noarch.rpm"
[08:08] <blizah> right?
[08:08] <bryan> no
[08:08] <jeff_> blizah you might want to use azerus's client
[08:09] <blizah> i would but a little to resource hungry
[08:09] <bryan> just download the rpm from bittorrent.com
[08:09] <blizah> used it in windows...
[08:09] <blizah> i like it a lot though
[08:09] <viper12> you also might want to stay away from 'rpms' in a deb install.
[08:09] <bryan> azureus is overkill
[08:09] <blizah> oh yea ima change it into a deb file...
[08:10] <whiprush> mako: hey what would be the best way to create a LoCo team for the US. I don't see a parent one for the US, any thoughts on how to best divide it up?
[08:10] <blizah> so i dont type "sudo apt-get bittorrent_4.0.0-2_all.deb"   ?
[08:11] <bryan> no
[08:11] <whiprush> sudo dpkg -i blah.deb
[08:11] <elmaya> heya.. i got this error everytime i try tu upgrade the system
[08:11] <elmaya> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/ubuntu-artwork_0.2.18-1_all.deb:  trying to overwrite `/usr/share/gnome-background-properties', which is also in package gnome-backgrounds
[08:11] <bryan> did you download the rpm?
[08:11] <elmaya> ?
[08:11] <blizah> ah ok
[08:11] <mako> whiprush: us is kind of a big place..
[08:12] <bryan> after you download the rpm, open a terminal
[08:12] <mako> whiprush: i mean, i'd be down to having one for new york.. like that's it
[08:12] <bryan> type: alien BitTorrent-4.0.0-1.noarch.rpm
[08:12] <mako> it's bigger than many countries :)
[08:12] <mako> whiprush: lets talk tomorrow
[08:12] <whiprush> mako: yeah I was mulling on to name my area but not make some obtuse naming convention
[08:12] <whiprush> ok
[08:13] <mako> whiprush: i gotta crash.. i've been hacking for something 40 hours today
[08:13] <whiprush> heh
[08:13] <whiprush> nite
[08:14] <dead|shell> hey Zaphod_
[08:15] <dead|shell> alot of netsplits tonight
[08:15] <viper12> whoa
[08:15] <jeff_> how can i tell when dd has finished writing
[08:16] <topyli> jeff_: you just get your prompt back
[08:16] <jeff_> topyli, but it stoped reading from the cd rom drive
[08:16] <jeff_> yet no prompt
[08:17] <topyli> jeff_: hmm. failed perhaps?
[08:17] <jeff_> a yes :(
[08:17] <topyli> press enter and see if there's a prompt
[08:18] <jeff_> ill be back reboot time
[08:19] <marshall> anybody willing to help a newbie re: NDISwrapper please msg me
[08:22] <marshall> come on guys, hook me up :)
[08:24] <jjpmr52> hi everyone ...if there is someone?
[08:24] <nepali> ??
[08:24] <marshall> whats up
[08:24] <marshall> trying to get some help with ndiswrapper, anyone got a min?
[08:25] <factotum> just ask the question, maybe someone will answer
[08:26] <_4strO> jjpmr52> there are 324 people here
[08:26] <_4strO> ^^
[08:26] <jjpmr52> so i hope someone can help me or direct me on something
[08:27] <marshall> thanks factotum, basically i must get my wireless card to work or revert back to windows :( every howto says to install ndiswrapper using sunaptic package amnager but i dont have ndiswrapper as an option.  i've selected the universal repositories as someone suggested but still no dice.  how in the heck can i get ndiswrapper to show up as an option to install?
[08:27] <jjpmr52> what would be the best program to download music on Linux ?
[08:28] <elmaya> you could download ndiswrapper and install it by compiling too
[08:28] <snowblink> jjpmr52: ndiswrapper-utils
[08:28] <snowblink> sorry. marshall: ndiswrapper-utils
[08:29] <_4strO> jjpmr52> nicotine
[08:29] <factotum> marshall, check out the ubuntu unofficial how-to, there is a section about adding apt rep's. They will probably hold what you need
[08:30] <snowblink> factotum: ndiswrapper is in main
[08:30] <jjpmr52> thanks for the tip ....4stro
[08:30] <blizah> whats the difference between "removal"  and "complete removal" in synaptic
[08:30] <highvoltage> Hi. I'm trying to compile a kernel, but when I'm booting it, I get a kernel panic: VFS not syncing. Anyone have any ideas what I forgot to put in there? I'm not using an initrd so I disabled it in the grub line.
[08:30] <blizah> does complete take the package off my list of possible packages to install?
[08:30] <_4strO> u(re welcome
[08:30] <_4strO> ave to go work
[08:30] <_4strO> cu
[08:30] <danny666> k3b won't burn iso file "it seems to be no iso"
[08:30] <factotum> snowblink, ah alright
[08:31] <blizah> ?
[08:31] <marshall> thanks but i'm really a newbie at this.  can someone just point me to an exact document or somethign to simply get ndiswrapper and utils to show up in synaptic?  i've been reading howtos and trying to install it manually for 2 days
[08:36] <marshall> it's really a shame that i can't seem to find a linux distro that gets wireless working out of the box
[08:37] <Burgundavia> marshall: the issue is that most wireless card makers won't support open source drivers
[08:39] <marshall> ok well i guess no one can help...thanks anyways. i guess i'll give it one or two more shots but if it ain't gonna work i gotta get back to work using windows
[08:40] <factotum> marshall, sorry I couldnt help more, at least your still trying. Its more than alot of people do which is awsome
[08:41] <factotum> marshall: just for the heck of it, read this:   http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[08:42] <marshall> well factotum, i'll tell you i've been trying to get off of windows for 5 years now but i always hit some snag.  then i was introduced to ubuntu and it looked like it was usable.  i like to think linux is ready for the desktop but i'm really not convinced it is.  i'm no genius but i can use a computer and im willing to experiment, but if in 3 days, 5 fresh installs, numerous forum posts and irc help i still cant even get my wireless to work, it's just not
[08:43] <HrdwrBoB> marshall: what wireless card do you have
[08:43] <factotum> ouch, I'm going on 3 years with a linux desktop and I know, if it doesnt give you grey hairs, they willjust start falling out
[08:44] <marshall> i have a netgear ma521 and a 3com 3crwe62092b, i dont care which works, i just need one to work
[08:44] <blizah> if ive just installed ubuntu do i need any type of virus protection or firewall?
[08:45] <blizah> heh as you can tell im coming from windows :D
[08:45] <marshall> factotum: i think it's fun and interesting to learn and play around and have the control linux provides but that's AFTER you get your basic stuff to work.  fighting to get your basic hardware to work is making me think windows aint so bad heh
[08:45] <topyli> marshall: you just need to get some decent hardware that works well with linux :)
[08:45] <HrdwrBoB> marshall: that isn't linux' fault
[08:46] <topyli> marshall: less the laptop to your worst enemy and get another one =)
[08:46] <marshall> topyli: hardware came before software, obviously i can't go out and buy all new hardware
[08:46] <topyli> sell, not less :o
[08:47] <blizah> yes/no?
[08:47] <topyli> marshall: i used to have difficult hardware when i switched from windows. later on, i've learned to build compatible boxen
[08:47] <marshall> topyli: perhaps but i have an ibm thinkpad which i love.  i will always use a thinkpad
[08:47] <penjuin> hello all
[08:48] <marshall> unless lenovo f*cks it up
[08:48] <marshall> heh
[08:48] <topyli> marshall: fair enough
[08:48] <HrdwrBoB> marshall: those cards are pcmcia
[08:48] <marshall> hrdwrbob: correct
[08:48] <HrdwrBoB> so, not in fact part of your computer
[08:49] <HrdwrBoB> everything else should work
[08:49] <marshall> correct
[08:49] <marshall> well when i boot i do get an error about modprobe fatal error but i dont know about that yet
[08:49] <marshall> that's off a fresh instlal
[08:49] <marshall> everythign else seems to be fine
[08:50] <HrdwrBoB> marshall: that's actually not an error, that should be supressed, you can ignore it
[08:50] <marshall> ok why does that error happen?
[08:50] <HrdwrBoB> it tries to load some drivers for stuff your hardware doesn't support
[08:50] <HrdwrBoB> (hotplug pci)
[08:50] <topyli> marshall: i seem to remember a colleague has a thinkpad, with fedora running ok. if i remember correctly, then any linux should work on it
[08:50] <marshall> ah i c
[08:51] <blizah> so do i need any type of firewall/anti-virus for linux?
[08:51] <HrdwrBoB> blizah: no
[08:51] <HrdwrBoB> not as suck
[08:51] <HrdwrBoB> such
[08:51] <blizah> not even firewall?
[08:51] <marshall> topyli: the linux isn't the problem.  it seems if i can get ndiswrapper installed i can use my windows .inf driver and get the wireless working
[08:51] <blizah> cool
[08:51] <HrdwrBoB> marshall: I don't mean to be rude, but would it be possible to swap or exchange your cards for other cards?
[08:51] <marshall> but all the howto's say "instazll ndiswrapper using synaptec" but i dont have it there
[08:51] <HrdwrBoB> marshall: apparently even with ndiswrapper they're not that good, but we can help you with ndisweapper
[08:51] <HrdwrBoB> wrapper
[08:51] <factotum> blizah, or if you want, get an old 486 and build your own firewall/router/server/whatever if you get bored
[08:52] <marshall> hrdwrbob: not rude, but i have 2 here, both brand names, should be able to get one of them working
[08:52] <topyli> blizah: if you want to run services locally (hide them from the internet), you can either use a firewall or tcp-wrappers
[08:52] <HrdwrBoB> marshall: neither of them are supported, however, there are many cards that are full supported
[08:52] <HrdwrBoB> but as long as you have the drivers there
[08:52] <HrdwrBoB> we can install ndiswrapper now for you
[08:52] <HrdwrBoB> you've got the laptop in ubuntu now and it's plugged into the net?
[08:53] <marshall> when you say supported, do you mean immediately after a fresh install of linux it will work out of the box?
[08:53] <blizah> topyli services locally mean like having an ftp?
[08:53] <HrdwrBoB> yes
[08:53] <marshall> i have the laptop in ubunto but it's not on the net.  i have one ethernet cable and i'm using it on this machine
[08:53] <blizah> hrdwr was that a yes at me?
[08:53] <blizah> ah dont think so
[08:53] <marshall> is there a list of supported cards?
[08:53] <HrdwrBoB> yes, hangon
[08:54] <topyli> blizah: yes, like a development web server that serves pages only to localhost. or an intranet hidden from the internet
[08:54] <topyli> blizah: like i run mysql and apache on this box but i hide them from the outside world
[08:55] <shock> I hope so much that hoary will be rocksolid by the time of release.
[08:55] <shock> right now evolution keeps crashing on me :/
[08:56] <HrdwrBoB> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[08:56] <shock> and the memmory usage of some apps is.... bizare!
[08:56] <penjuin> hi, im thinking of using ubuntu for my server...
[08:56] <marshall> thanks, i'll have a look.  maybe when i have some money i'll buy a nother wireless card but i think i'm just gonna go back to windows for now.
[08:56] <penjuin> does it hav all the libs for openxchange?
[08:56] <shock> got ubuntu on my router/fileserver here works fine
[08:56] <topyli> shock: the "preview" is due today. are you saying i shouldn't upgrade?
[08:56] <marshall> i made a ghost image so i can just copy it back
[08:56] <penjuin> i kinda like it
[08:57] <shock> I would =)
[08:57] <HrdwrBoB> marshall: sure? if you have the drivers and the install CD handy we can help you install ndiswrapper
[08:57] <shock> but i like to be a tester
[08:57] <penjuin> :P
[08:57] <penjuin> ye
[08:57] <marshall> i have the ubuntu cd and my drivers but no internet access on the laptop.  will it work to install ndiswrapper?
[08:57] <penjuin> so is it good for that kind of thing?
[08:57] <shock> and atually i think evolutions hickups might be related to some incidents I had, using it during its unstable phase
[08:57] <penjuin> ive got a k6 128mb ram
[08:58] <penjuin> its just a local server
[08:58] <penjuin> and slackware just doesnt cut it
[08:58] <topyli> shock: i ran hoary earlier in the development, and evolution was seriously broken most of the time
[08:58] <shock> too bad you cant reset evolution completely to default settings without loosing your gnome-settings
[08:58] <penjuin> well i prob wont use X
[08:59] <penjuin> and about the cd shipping
[08:59] <penjuin> wats the deal with live cds
[08:59] <shock> topyli - i am running hoary aver since it was available "broken" is a rather mild description for what the evo package was :P
[08:59] <Seq> i've been using hoary for a while and never had any real issues with evolution that I can think of
[08:59] <HrdwrBoB> marshall: yes
[08:59] <topyli> shock: needs a little love that's all :)
[08:59] <shock> seq - lucker!
[08:59] <shock> indeed
[08:59] <penjuin> anyone?
[09:00] <penjuin> whats the go with livecds
[09:00] <penjuin> when u ship them
[09:00] <shock> well u can TEST how well your computer works with ubuntu
[09:00] <penjuin> no
[09:00] <shock> without having to install anything
[09:00] <penjuin> i mean
[09:00] <penjuin> that i want to install, but have many friends that want the livecds
[09:01] <sihen> ello all
[09:01] <penjuin> so is there a way to get just live cds?
[09:01] <shock> maybe if you ask them
[09:01] <sihen> please give me that site address for themes again, sorry i got disconnected
[09:01] <marshall> hrdwrbob: ok great, i sent you a /msg
[09:01] <penjuin> ye ok
[09:01] <penjuin> im off guyz
[09:01] <shock> sihen - gnome?
[09:01] <penjuin> cya all
[09:01] <shock> art.gnome.org?
[09:01] <shock> gnome-look.org?
[09:02] <sihen> shock,  ye
[09:02] <sihen> ta
[09:04] <blizah> topyli, just outta curiousity what firewall should i use under ubuntu
[09:04] <blizah> not sure if i need one
[09:04] <blizah> i do run an ftp occasionaly
[09:04] <sihen> and could someone possible help me get my other hd mounted
[09:06] <TomAraya> I guess trying to go to Hoary was a bad idea. :P anyway, I've reformatted now (X wouldn't start, wouldn't accept the root password anymore) but now when I try to boot back into Windows to get NDISWrapper as it's on the desktop, I get an error message.
[09:06] <blizah> i get a message at boot that says pnp bios failure blablalaal
[09:06] <TomAraya> I've reinstalled Warty.
[09:06] <blizah> nothing bad is happening b/c of it
[09:07] <blizah> but the message doesnt sound like somethign i want to have
[09:07] <TomAraya> So now I can't boot back into Windows, was wondering if I could do something to the grub file .. try and edit it and see if I could fix it somehow.
[09:08] <Burgundavia> TomAraya: what sort of error message?
[09:10] <KarLiNha_-> oi pessoas
[09:10] <TomAraya> Burgundavia: I'll go write it down. brb
[09:10] <topyli> blizah: the firewall is in the kernel. i use firestarter to set it up
[09:18] <TomAraya> root (hd0,0)
[09:18] <TomAraya> filesystem type
[09:18] <schasi> shock: Did you learn?
[09:18] <TomAraya> unknown, partion type 0x7
[09:18] <TomAraya> save default
[09:18] <shock> the past 4 weeks
[09:18] <TomAraya> makeactive
[09:18] <shock> did nothing else
[09:18] <TomAraya> chainloader +1
[09:18] <schasi> TomAraya: You really keep trying with Linux don't you?
[09:18] <schasi> shock: Could you say that you are well preapared?
[09:18] <shock> havent seen my gf in this time but for one weekend
[09:18] <KarLiNha_-> they alguem wants to talk? I am of Brazil
[09:18] <shock> hmmm
[09:18] <schasi> Or do you depend on luck?
[09:19] <shock> its like a pretty nasty topic, but yes I am
[09:19] <TomAraya> schasi: Ouch.
[09:19] <schasi> Have that all the time ;-)
[09:19] <shock> only problem - anything below B+ is worth nothing @ bremen university
[09:19] <shock> :/
[09:19] <schasi> Abitur Vorklausur Mathe 1 pkt oder so
[09:19] <TomAraya> Am I looking at another reformat? Anything I could try with Grub?
[09:20] <shock> < schasi> Or do you depend on luck? <--- believing that one is not dependent on luck would be ... f***ing st*pid
[09:20] <shock> ;)
[09:20] <shock> aua @ 1 punkt
[09:20] <shock> ;)
[09:20] <schasi> shock: But there are things you can do to make it more likely for you to pass
[09:20] <schasi> Like being good and learning
[09:20] <shock> yeah - sleep with my prof :P
[09:21] <shock> she's a hottie *g*
[09:21] <schasi> Thats not exactly what i meant
[09:21] <shock> }:)
[09:21] <schasi> she? well i dont think she would sleep with you. but if she does, go for it
[09:22] <shock> hrhr
[09:22] <schasi> s/does/did/ or so
[09:22] <shock> i think my gf would strongly object to that  strategy
[09:22] <schasi> ;-)
[09:22] <shock> :)
[09:23] <shock> oh well... if its a c it'll still be a passed test and I still have time to get a better one
[09:23] <TomAraya> anyone have any idea?
[09:23] <shock> *sigh*
[09:23] <schasi> I think she would understand that it is for her future as well
[09:23] <schasi> g2go, l8er ppl
[09:23] <shock> cu
[09:23] <shock> TomAraya - erm
[09:24] <schasi> shock: gl&hf
[09:24] <shock> you ubuntu grub conf should have an example in it
[09:24] <shock> thx
[09:26] <TomAraya> Yeah, the file is proper.
[09:26] <TomAraya> menu.lst looks proper.
[09:27] <shock> so... what happens if you want to boot into windows?
 root (hd0,0)
 filesystem type
 shock: Did you learn?
 unknown, partion type 0x7
 save default
 the past 4 weeks
 makeactive
 did nothing else
 chainloader +1
[09:29] <shock> http://ubuntuguide.org/index.html <-- lkook for the "how to add windows to your grub"
[09:29] <shock> stuff
[09:29] <TomAraya> ... right
[09:30] <KarLiNha_-> somebody has msn to messenger?
[09:30] <shock> as long as you actually do have you windows on hd(0,0) you are good to go
[09:30] <shock> ok - i need to get ready to go to my exam
[09:30] <TomAraya> Of course it is.. that's what I said.
[09:30] <shock> ;)
[09:30] <KarLiNha_-> somebody has msn to messenger?
[09:31] <shock> msn? i have an msn account
[09:31] <shock> running it in gaim
[09:31] <shock> no probs at all
[09:31] <topyli> gaim works
[09:31] <shock> gaim uses heaps of memory however :(
[09:31] <TomAraya> Anyone have any ideas of what I can try?
[09:31] <shock> dunnno why
[09:31] <GNAM> hi
[09:32] <GNAM> what's the difference between a fortran library SHARED version / STATIC version?
[09:32] <topyli> shock: shows 39M here. i suppose most of it is cache and not real
[09:33] <GNAM> shall I install lapack3 (shared version) or lapack3-dev (static version) ?
[09:33] <topyli> GNAM: if you have the libraries it depends on, use them. if you don't, use the static version
[09:34] <Myrtti> oh btw, if someone else has had problems with XMMS not starting up properly, my problem was that libmikmod or smthn like that wasn't installed
[09:34] <Myrtti> noticed it when I finally realized that trying to start it up from terminal might give some hints on the problem
[09:35] <blizah> gaim uses lots of memory?
[09:35] <blizah> weird
[09:35] <Myrtti> try bitlbee
[09:36] <topyli> Myrtti: bitlbee is very cool if you like your irc client. makes you forget you're using them evil messengers :)
[09:36] <shock> < blizah> gaim uses lots of memory? - indeed - after running for 2 or three days its up to 120 megs
[09:37] <Myrtti> topyli: and is transportable everywhere
[09:37] <Myrtti> and if you're hooked on irc, gets better attention than gaim
[09:37] <shock> for irc nothing beats irssi :P
[09:38] <topyli> yes. console-friendly so you can just ssh home and attach a screen to your forever running irs
[09:38] <topyli> si
[09:38] <shock> after some customisation
[09:38] <shock> need to run now
[09:38] <shock> wish me luck
[09:38] <shock> ;)
[09:41] <kresten> Hi. I'm about to install ubuntu later today, but I'm not sure if my wireless network card is supported. Does any of you know where to check this?
[09:42] <highvoltage> kresten: what kind of network card is it?
[09:43] <kresten> intel 2100
[09:43] <highvoltage> yep
[09:43] <highvoltage> is it a centrino laptop?
[09:43] <kresten> Yes
[09:43] <highvoltage> ubuntu detects it automatically on startup
[09:43] <kresten> IBM R51
[09:43] <highvoltage> I have a thinkpad t41 and it works 100%
[09:43] <kresten> It didn't last time I installed it...
[09:44] <highvoltage> weird. mine popped up a 'window' asking for network key, ssid, etc, i filled it in and it worked
[09:44] <T5> hile__, can you tell me how set up a dhcp timeout? i read man interfaces but there is no clue of how this is to be done
[09:45] <T5> sorry hile this was just meant to be "hi"
[09:45] <kresten> Maybe it's because i wasn't connected to the Internet...
[09:45] <kresten> Though my router was running...
[09:46] <T5> highvoltage, what program are you speaking about?
[09:47] <kresten> Any ideas? Oh, and by the way... Be gentle I'm new to linux...
[09:48] <highvoltage> T5: the ubuntu installer
[09:49] <T5> ah ok, i thought it would be netapplet or network manager
[09:49] <MrKeuner> hi, I can successfully use the nv driver on my widescreen with a resolution of 1280x800. However, when I run when I run nvidia driver, xorg starts on the left handside of the screen leaving a blank space on the right. I remember some kernel module parameters to use while modprobing the nvidia module. Does anybody use that?
[09:53] <hile__> T5: if you are using xchat, set the 'automatic nickname completion' off from input box preferences so it does do it
[09:53] <hile__> it's really stupid default preference, IMHO
[09:54] <hile__> ... you still can complete with <TAB>  anyway
[09:54] <hile__> AFAIK, I use irssi in screen  so can't remember for sure ;)
[09:55] <thoreauputic> hile__: yes, turning off autocmplete still allows tab complete in xchat
[09:55] <pepsi> is ther any way i can add a submenu to the Applications menu?
[09:55] <T5> in fact i pressed tab ;) so it was my fault...
[09:55] <T5> i apologize
[09:56] <hile__> no problem ;)
[09:57] <hile__> hmm, lost my nick in reconnects
[10:00] <topyli> the worst thing in gaim is you can't turn off part/join server messages
[10:02] <Myrtti> I couldn't configure the damn thing to pop out the incoming messages window on top
[10:02] <the_1> hi everyone, how's it going today, all is fine? ;)
[10:02] <Myrtti> that's why I was desperate of finding a better solution to connect to icq/msn
[10:02] <Myrtti> and bitlbee was godsent
[10:03] <topyli> yep
[10:04] <the_1> I have a question..if I select SERVER when I install UBUNTU,is it the same like installing debian with base-system?
[10:04] <topyli> i should setup bitlbee again, it's too weird to need X for irc and other stuff
[10:04] <the_1> anyone?
[10:05] <andreas> the1: No - you get the full system. It just updates during install
[10:05] <topyli> the_1: i guess it is
[10:05] <Myrtti> andreas: a netinstall, in other words?
[10:05] <the_1> you see,I convinced a friend to try ubuntu, and he's a debian user usually
[10:06] <the_1> andreas: thanks
[10:06] <andreas> myrti: Well... Install fom cd - update by internet
[10:06] <Myrtti> andreas: if I only had known that when I installed :-/
[10:07] <andreas> the1: *smile* Word of advice... It atkes jsut as long without the update as with
[10:07] <soulhack> i have some troubles starting up, GRUB wont give me the option to load either XP or Ubuntu, it says that GRUB 1.5 LOADS then i find myself getting booted into Ubuntu.
[10:07] <andreas> soulhack: Did you manually add XP during install?
[10:08] <blizah> where is the list of programs that run at startup kept
[10:08] <soulhack> XP was installed prior to Ubuntu installation
[10:08] <jesuel> woot, Finally. I have my laptop setup completely with all my software. Even got gnome setup the way i like :)
[10:08] <andreas> soulhack: But did you add it to GRUB?
[10:08] <soulhack> hmm, not manually
[10:08] <Myrtti> blizah: startup of what
[10:08] <andreas> soulhack: There` s the mistake
[10:08] <Myrtti> goddammit
[10:09] <the_1> anyone using ubuntu and a wireless connection? possibly encrypted with WPA?
[10:09] <jesuel> the_1: I am using wireless on hoary with WEP @ home and WPA @ school
[10:09] <soulhack> andreas, but it is in the menu.lst
[10:10] <andreas> soulhack: Unless you manually add XP to GRUB it deletes the MBR
[10:11] <jesuel> *grin* screenshot of my little gnomelaptop -  http://members.dslextreme.com/users/sjgerman/images/screenie.png
[10:11] <thoreauputic> andreas: umm... my warty install added XP, Ubuntu and Debian to grub without a problem
[10:11] <jesuel> the_1: What kinda problems are you having?
[10:11] <soulhack> andreas, XP is set to load from the right HD in menu.lst so there\s nothing i can change there.
[10:12] <the_1> jesuel: I installed wpa_supplicant and managed to connect once on my wpa-enabled home network, but never again since then, I tried different settings, disabling and enabling the network interface every time, and one other thing is that the network doesn't enable itself automatically during boot
[10:12] <andreas> therou: It did? Weird.. I`ve always been told that the manual way is the only way
[10:13] <jesuel> Hrm, Weird. Lets see, my network will automatically connect on bootup at home here, using wep like I said, When I connect at school, I actually have to go in and switch profiles.
[10:13] <thoreauputic> it recognised that there were 3 bootable OS's and they are all there on the grub bootup screen
[10:13] <andreas> jesuel: KDE.... You ought to know better...
[10:13] <jesuel> andreas: thats not kde, thats gnome.
[10:13] <wtd> Have a Hoary oddity.  The System menu pops up fine for a split second, then switches to an empty menu.
[10:14] <the_1> jesuel: btw, in the network interface dialog for wireless it stll shows WPE and not WPA, do you know if there is some other applet for wireless conectivity for ubuntu, something more complete?
[10:14] <soulhack> yes, because, when i booted for the first time grub was fine. I did download a few fixes from synaptic pckg mngr and when i rebooted it went boyah..
[10:14] <jesuel> the_1: Not that ive seen, im using hoary.
[10:14] <andreas> thero: Hmm.... I`m impressed if it`s true but why can soulhack then not get it to work?
[10:15] <calamari> hi
[10:15] <andreas> hi
[10:15] <jesuel> the_1: Course im actually pretty new to ubuntu + hoary in general. I just basically got my laptop working with it within the last couple days. I have ran ubuntu as a cli server for a few months.
[10:15] <thoreauputic> sounds like it *was* working, but got broken on upgrade
[10:15] <soulhack> thoreauputic, any idea on how to fix that easily?
[10:16] <jesuel> andreas: Why you think I was using KDE anyhow?
[10:16] <andreas> jesuel: Wasn`t there a little KDE app in the bottom right corner?
[10:16] <thoreauputic> soulhack: I assume you checked that GRUB menu.lst is pointing to the right places ? (partitions)
[10:17] <the_1> jesuel: but how is your wireless card setup? youput the wpa password in the wep box, because it doesn't actually show that it is wpa compatible, even after installing wpa_supplicant, right?
[10:17] <jesuel> andreas: uhm not that I know of, bottom right hand corner is clock, on the right hand pane there is xscreensaverlock + window selector + vdesktop selector.
[10:18] <jesuel> the_1: Thats correct
[10:18] <andreas> jesuel: Please post URL once again
[10:18] <jesuel> http://members.dslextreme.com/users/sjgerman/images/screenie.png
[10:18] <wtd> So, any ideas as to why my System menu is acting oddly?
[10:19] <the_1> jesuel: and you have DHCP server running on your router, or you are using static IPs?
[10:19] <calamari> Do I need the samba package installed in order to browse Windows shares, or just samba-common ?
[10:19] <andreas> jesuel: I see.... The GNOME menu... I htought the battery indicator was KDE
[10:19] <soulhack> thoreauputic, yes, checked now, I am 100% new to linux but I think it is properly configured
[10:20] <jesuel> the_1: Yup dhcpd on m0n0wall firewall that connects to the net.
[10:20] <topyli> jesuel: you sure have a blue desktop dude :)
[10:20] <jesuel> andreas: oh yeah that battery monitor does look like the kde one.
[10:20] <jesuel> topyli: I love blue.
[10:21] <topyli> calamari: you need smbclient
[10:21] <Smeven> hi
[10:21] <Smeven> i am trying to get my card reader on my laptop going
[10:21] <Smeven> no luck yet
[10:22] <calamari> thanks.. looks like I had the windows machine misconfigured.. working now :)
[10:22] <Smeven> what modules do i need to  load to have it work?
[10:22] <soulhack> thoreauputic, the fact that i have double sets of ubuntu loads under End Default Options, does that matter?
[10:22] <Smeven> 4-in-1 card reader...
[10:22] <jesuel> topyli: laptop has a polished aluminum case thats been sprayed in cobalt blue then clearcoat x4. All the led's are blue. All the lights are blue. and the keyboard is backlit with blue led's
[10:22] <the_1> jesuel: I guess my only option is to reinstall hoary and hope it does all that it won't do now, like enabling the network interface at boot time, logging in automatically to the network, work with wpa, etc..
[10:22] <thoreauputic> soulhack: double sets? alternative kernels or what?
[10:22] <topyli> jesuel: you like blue. ok, i believe you =)
[10:23] <jesuel> topyli: :)
[10:23] <Smeven> do you have blue balls?
[10:23] <jesuel> the_1: Hrmm, thinkin.
[10:23] <jesuel> Smeven: Nope. :)
[10:23] <soulhack> thoreauputic, well, first i have the standard titlerootkernelinitred savedefault and boot. Then the recovery mode. Then they are both stated again.
[10:24] <soulhack> thoreauputic, when i check a sample of the menu.lst it\s only listed one of each, i have two. does this make any sense?
[10:24] <thoreauputic> soulhack: sounds odd
[10:24] <Smeven> any ideas on the memory card problem?
[10:24] <soulhack> should i remove the duplets?
[10:24] <soulhack> it is identical
[10:24] <topyli> hrmpf. i got a form to fill from work. it's an rtf document but doesn't work in openoffice. i was reduced to a windows user again for a moment :(
[10:25] <jesuel> topyli: ew. Evil work.
[10:25] <soulhack> oh, wait, theres a difference. one says> kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.8.1-5-386 root=/dev/sda3 ro single the other says 2.6.8.1-3-386
[10:25] <thoreauputic> soulhack: well, back up menu.lst to menu.lst.bak or similar, then edit them out - but make sure you have another way to boot if it all goes pear-shaped
[10:26] <thoreauputic> soulhack: that's what I thought - other kernels
[10:26] <soulhack> thoreauputic, thats from previous to the update, should be safe to remove, right?
[10:26] <topyli> jesuel: all is well now, i've shut down the windows box :)
[10:27] <thoreauputic> soulhack: no need to - and having a backup kernel can be useful
[10:27] <thoreauputic> soulhack: if a new kernal causes "issues"
[10:27] <thoreauputic> *kernel
[10:27] <Nermal> yay for gnome 2.10 being in hoary :D
[10:27] <topyli> it's all in now?
[10:28] <Nermal> I think so
[10:28] <soulhack> thoreauputic, okay, well, then, i am lost again. ill try to reboot and see if the problem is still there.
[10:28] <Nermal> well.. I just did and update and dist-upgrade is pulling in all the gnome 2.10 packages
[10:29] <marshall> hi guys, before i was in here and i've been trying to get my wlan working.  i finally got ndiswrapper installed and when i do "ndiswrapper -l" it says my driver is installed and the hardware present.  now when i go to computer -> networking and try to add the wireless network card it doesnt seem to be available to add.  anyone know what i need to do? i feel i'm so close :)
[10:30] <topyli> Nermal: strange though. the gnome hackers still seem to be "working on" the release process. :) i guess the software itself is there though
[10:31] <Smeven> ubuntu wont let me install hwdb-client
[10:31] <Nermal> aye..
[10:31] <Nermal> right.. shutting down X for this upgrade :)
[10:31] <Smeven> no candidate
[10:32] <Burgundavia> marshall: go to the command line and type ifconfig
[10:32] <soulhack> works!
[10:33] <marshall> burgundavia: has my ethernet and lo but no wlan
[10:33] <Burgundavia> marshall: look at dmesg and see you if get anything there when you plug it in
[10:34] <jesuel> marshall: modprobe ndiswrapper
[10:34] <marshall> burgundavia: what am i looking for, i'm a newbie and there's a lot of stuff here :)
[10:34] <jesuel> marshall: do a sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[10:35] <marshall> jesuel: ok done now what?
[10:35] <jesuel> marshall: ok, dmesg | grep ndiswrapper
[10:35] <marshall> jesuel: ok now what :)  looks liek it recognizes the wlan there
[10:35] <jesuel> goody
[10:36] <jesuel> now you can go in and configure it
[10:36] <jesuel> sudo iwlist wlan0 scan
[10:38] <kresten> Marshall: Let me know if it works. I'm installing Ubuntu later today and have experienced the same problem earlier...
[10:39] <jesuel> kresten: that should work
[10:39] <jesuel> kresten: I fooled around enough with my wireless to get it to work @ home / school / work with 3 different setups
[10:40] <marshall> well i'm trying to activate it but it's freezing, i'm letting it sit for a minute and "think"
[10:40] <kresten> Ok. Thanks. I'm new to linux, but I assume those things you wrote earlier should be typed at the command prompt, rigth?
[10:40] <marshall> kresten: it's a mighty pain in the ass, i hope you have thick skin :)
[10:40] <jesuel> silly broadcom needs to release a driver for *nix, at least a binary, preferably a open source one.
[10:40] <marshall> but i think if i can get the wireless working i'll be able to handle other things
[10:41] <jesuel> marshall: what chipset?
[10:41] <marshall> dont know chipset but it's a netgear ma521
[10:41] <iSuperman> how do I determine if a blank disc is a DVD or a CD?
[10:41] <jesuel> kresten: yes, and their are faq's on how to set it up.
[10:41] <kresten> Marshall: my thoughts exactly...
[10:41] <jesuel> kresten: Your card may not even require ndiswrapper. Depending on what card it is.
[10:42] <jesuel> marshall: netgear ma521. Which inf file you use for that?
[10:42] <kresten> jesuel: it's an intel 2100
[10:42] <marshall> jesuel: i can add the wireless now no problem but when i try to activate it it just "thinks" for a while and then returns to network settings unactivated
[10:43] <marshall> the inf i'm using is netma521.inf win2k river from netgear's website
[10:43] <gsmith> hello
[10:43] <jesuel> kresten: http://ipw2100.sourceforge.net/
[10:43] <jesuel> marshall: ...hrm.
[10:44] <gsmith> i'm having a problem with mail - using postfix   dovecot - messages sent to other users on the system aren't being recieved, but those sent to myself are
[10:44] <gsmith> does anyone know how to resolve that problem and potential problems?
[10:44] <kresten> jesuel: thanks I saw it last time i was installing, but back then I thought I had a 2200... :(
[10:45] <marshall> jesuel: well definately the iwlist wlan0 scan is coming back with nothing
[10:45] <jesuel> marshall: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/phpwiki/index.php/Installation - Read down to section 4. Configure Interface.
[10:45] <prego> iSuperman, Looking at the disk? :-P
[10:45] <jesuel> kresten: well that would make a slight difference :)
[10:47] <kresten> jesuel: Yeah, my bad. Gotta go. Thanks for all the help!
[10:47] <jesuel> kresten: later~
[10:47] <marshall> good luck kresten
[10:47] <kresten> Marshal: Thanks!
[10:48] <iSuperman> prego: there's no printing at all on a disc I have.   Thought there may be an app that gives some sort of information.
[10:48] <marshall> jesuel: ok i'm looking at the document hold on.  basically right now i have the wlan in my "connections" in network settings but the scan doesnt work
[10:48] <jesuel> right, you may need to set your essid manually then scan
[10:50] <marshall> jesuel: windows picks up essid automatically, doesn't linux? what if i go to a public hotspot wherer i dont know the essid?
[10:51] <scizzo> marshall: the tools should search for the ssids that you can access
[10:52] <marshall> ok i'm workin on it :)
[10:53] <jesuel> should search, sometimes you have to specify it.
[10:53] <scizzo> marshall: the gnome tool to setup the network found a lot of different essids when I tried
[10:53] <jesuel> I had to specify it the first time, after that never again.
[10:53] <scizzo> jesuel: if broadcast is off yes
[10:53] <jesuel> scizzo: broadcast is on though. Was funky
[10:53] <jesuel> scizzo: It works now though.
[10:54] <scizzo> jesuel: that is weird...anywho I always turn the broadcast off....
[10:55] <marshall> well it doesn't seem to be working for some reason but i think i'm going to take a break from this before i kill it
[10:56] <jesuel> marshall: no problem. Oh trust me, when I was configuring the wireless on this laptop the other night. I *ALMOST* killed it
[10:56] <jesuel> Then, it worked!
[10:57] <jesuel> It was even better when I was configuring qos/traffic shaping /pareental controls on my firewall. :)
[11:00] <jesuel> hmm bbiab
[11:00] <hyphen> hah!  got my hard drive working!
[11:00] <marshall> thanks guys, ttyl
[11:00] <hyphen> now i have another problem though :(
[11:01] <mlambie> does anyone know of a setting that will force hibernation when on battery and it falls to say 5% remaining, or do I need to whip up a script?
[11:02] <hyphen> i'm dual booting linux and winxp, but at startup i don't get a os select prompt, it just asks if i want to boot winxp pro, anyone know why?
[11:03] <mlambie> hyphen: does it boot straight into windows, or does  GRUB prompt you for the OS and there's no Ubuntu listed?
[11:03] <hyphen> boot's straight into windows
[11:03] <hyphen> when grub DID load, and i chose winxp it would prompt for winxp again
[11:04] <hyphen> it just takes me straight to that prompt now, without going through grub
[11:04] <mlambie> sounds like windows overwrote the bootloader?
[11:04] <hyphen> is there a way i can fix that?  i think i might've done that on accident while i was rebuilding my external hd partition table
[11:04] <mlambie> google will tell you how to reinstall GRUB to the master boot record using the ubuntu CD, I expect.
[11:05] <hyphen> ah, okay
[11:05] <hyphen> thanks :P
[11:05] <mlambie> hypatia: I don't know the exact steps, sorry.
[11:06] <hyphen> not a problem, i've spent hours scavenging google for help for my hd, i can spend a few for minutes doing it now :P
[11:07] <Nermal> can nautilus burn dvds ?
[11:14] <mlambie> Nermal: yeah, Nautilus can burn DVDs... infact, I'm about to burn a few now
[11:14] <mlambie> time to clean up /media/external I think ;)
[11:21] <prego> I'm in trouble... I was playing with hibernate... and now I have no swap, Why do I have not swap? How can I enable it again?
[11:22] <prego> (I failed to start from hibernation, probably because I should have chosen "recovery" at grub)
[11:23] <Nermal> swapon ?
[11:24] <prego> swapon: /dev/hda3: Invalid argument
[11:24] <prego> sudo mkswap /dev/hda3?
[11:24] <Nermal> can do
[11:24] <Nermal> make sure you've got the right partition :)
[11:24] <prego> I'm scared
[11:25] <prego> OK, I recovered from stall ;-)
[11:25] <prego> let's see what has happened, since I was updating the system when I run out of memory and the machine hung (in practical sense of view, only)
[11:27] <prego> Fortunatelly seems that it was still downloading...
[11:27] <helloyo> is there a way to not use bad sections of RAM?
[11:29] <prego> helloyo: nice question; however I doubt it. Probably the only way is to replace bad RAM :-(. AFAIK, and I'm not an expert.
[11:29] <mlambie> helloyo: how can you tell that there's a bad section of RAM? I've only ever heard of RAM working, or not.
[11:30] <Myrtti> memtest
[11:30] <mlambie> Myrtti: ohh, ok.
[11:30] <mlambie> .... and that's installed with Ubuntu now isn't it :)
[11:30] <helloyo> yeah, i used that memory test
[11:30] <Myrtti> I once had a hardware problem that infected network connections
[11:30] <mlambie> amd I going crazy, or are we expecting the Hoary release today?
[11:30] <helloyo> it seems that you can give a boot instruction that ignores certain blocks of ram
[11:30] <spacey> helloyo, few years ago i read about that possibility. was some kernel patch i think. but i doubt its still maintained.
[11:31] <spacey> maybe it is
[11:31] <spacey> forgot the name anyway
[11:31] <spacey> but it is possible
[11:31] <Myrtti> after changing NIC, motherboard, chassis and harddrives, the last thing tried was the brand new 256MB RAM
[11:31] <Nermal> bad ram usually gives segfaults
[11:32] <helloyo> yeah, been getting heaps of segfaults
[11:32] <helloyo> well i guess i'll just get new ram, seems like the best solution
[11:32] <Nermal> download md5sums failing.. all that fun stuff :|
[11:32] <helloyo> hahaha, yep, that too, took me three goes to get a good ubuntu download
[11:32] <Myrtti> that problem existed on a windows os, if I had have linux, the problem would've been pinpointed earlier
[11:32] <helloyo> but then cos of the ram, it didn't burn great
[11:36] <jesuel> Ah, now azureus now works! : )
[11:37] <prego> azureus?
[11:37] <prego> (ubgrading, so I cannot check what it is)
[11:37] <jesuel> prego: bittorrent client :)
[11:37] <helloyo> will 512MB ram give me much of a boost over 256?
[11:37] <prego> ah :-)
[11:37] <jesuel> helloyo: IMHO yes
[11:37] <Nermal> helloyo, depends how much stuff you run
[11:38] <prego> helloyo: probably
[11:39] <prego> helloyo: with gnome et al, you reach 256 easily if you are compiling and using synaptic: I had no swap (and I didn't realize) and I reached that top... :-((
[11:40] <goldfish_> class Globals {
[11:40] <goldfish_>     public int count, outs, ins;
[11:40] <goldfish_>     Globals (int initcount) {
[11:40] <goldfish_> 	count = initcount;
[11:40] <goldfish_> 	ins = outs = 0;
[11:41] <goldfish_>     }
[11:41] <goldfish_>     public void updatecount(int i) {
[11:41] <jesuel> ...
[11:41] <goldfish_> sorry :/
[11:41] <goldfish_> fucking right click
[11:42] <linuxn00b> Hey, in webmin how do I do port forwarding?
[11:43] <gilles> ubuntu boots very slowly, especially when it tries to find a network, is there a way to improve that ? Is it because I use hoary ?
[11:44] <xamdm> @linuxn00b which firewall do jou use ??
[11:44] <linuxn00b> shorewall
[11:45] <xamdm> its under firewall rules
[11:45] <xamdm> i just gonna install it, so i can tell you the complete way
[11:46] <hedu> hi guys
[11:46] <linuxn00b> ok...I don't even know how to configure webmin but so far is has been great to me I finally got ICS working :-D
[11:46] <hedu> looking for help to get an external monitor running on my laptop
[11:46] <linuxn00b> hedu, hey :)
[11:47] <hedu> linuxn00b hey back :(
[11:47] <ZorroBytes> Anyone good here with XDMCP and getting gdm to work remotely?
[11:47] <hedu> :)
[11:48] <xamdm> @linuxn00b, did jou configure anything from shorewall?? (sorry for my bad english im german)
[11:48] <linuxn00b> can anyone connect to http://incdb.kicks-ass.net:8888/ ??
[11:49] <linuxn00b> xamdm, nope I just installed shorewall along with webmin :) I was also doing some other stuff eariler (drunk then) haha
[11:50] <xamdm> linuxn00b, ok, then there is a bit more stuff to be done, warty ore hoary ??
[11:50] <linuxn00b> shoot I cant forward a port :( my interneal network can connect fine but not external >:(
[11:50] <linuxn00b> warty :)
[11:50] <jamin_l> hey guys
[11:51] <linuxn00b> hey jamin_l :)
[11:51] <xamdm> is shorewall running??, ore didn't jou configure anything ??
[11:51] <jamin_l> I'm trying to get SoundJuicer to rip mp3s ... getting error: Could not create GStreamer encoder ((null))
[11:52] <jamin_l> have gstreamer and lame already on this beast
[11:52] <wezzer-> ahum
[11:52] <linuxn00b> xamdm, shorewall is running
[11:52] <wezzer-> you need some libraries
[11:52] <Nermal> run gst-register ?
[11:52] <wezzer-> see ubuntuforums.org
[11:52] <wezzer-> and there is howto section
[11:52] <jamin_l> wezzer: to me?
[11:52] <wezzer-> yes
[11:52] <jamin_l> i have w32codecs
[11:52] <milez> so
[11:52] <xamdm> ok, so jou want to forwart a port (example 229 to an machine in your local network ??
[11:52] <milez> any of you guys have a solution for my resolv.conf getting rewritten every 5 minutes? :P
[11:53] <jamin_l> wezzer,  anything else i need?
[11:53] <Nermal> milez, get a longer lease time ?
[11:53] <linuxn00b> xamdm, yes I want to forward port 8888 to a machine on my local network
[11:54] <wezzer-> jamin_l: wait
[11:54] <wezzer-> I'm checking the FAQ
[11:54] <milez> Nermal , i don't want it rewritten in the first place!
[11:54] <xamdm> linuxn00b, ok, just a sacond
[11:54] <milez> i mean what, should i start using fam to figure out what is actually touching it?
[11:54] <linuxn00b> xamdm, ok
[11:55] <hedu> NEED HELP: get external monitor on laptop to run (warty)
[11:55] <linuxn00b> hedu, what video card??
[11:55] <wezzer-> jamin_l: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[11:55] <wezzer-> brb
[11:56] <Ajaleo> hola?
[11:56] <hedu> linuxn00b sis 65x/M650/740
[11:57] <jamin_l> hrm how do you add new repositories to Synaptic again? well what's the line you enter... i know how to get to that point
[11:57] <linuxn00b> ok, lemme see what my gf did to get it working on mine one sec :)
[11:59] <linuxn00b> hedu, well she wasn't quite sure how she got it to work before...all she remember was do a simple edit in the X config :/
[11:59] <xamdm> linuxn00b, 1st choose firewall rules in webmin, create new one, Action DNAT, sourcezone (internet), destination zone (localnet),Only hosts in zone with addresses (ip), protocol TCP, destination ports 8888. Hope that works
[12:00] <hedu> linuxn00b in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 , I know that but I need to know what. is it working for you? if yes can I see your file?
[12:01] <jamin_l> wezzer, already had that installed, just needed an upgrade
[12:01] <shock_> got an A- (1.7) .... drinkin a beer now!
[12:01] <shock_> :D
[12:01] <jamin_l> and still the same error
[12:01] <linuxn00b> hedu, sorry I don't anymore I had to put XP back on there for school :( sorry
[12:02] <Myrtti> ehm
[12:02] <jamin_l> i don't get it
[12:02] <linuxn00b> xamdm, well it works if a use http://207.81.39.129:8888/ but http://incdb.kicks-ass.net:8888/ doesn't work I went to the dyndns website and updated it :/
[12:04] <linuxn00b> anyone here use dyndns.org??
[12:04] <xamdm> linunoob, yes
[12:04] <jamin_l> Anymore ideas on how to get SoundJuicer to rip to mp3? Got packages: gstreamer0.8-mad, gstreamer0.8-lame, glame. Getting error: "Could not create GStreamer encoder ((null))
[12:05] <linuxn00b> well I went to the site to update my IP but I can't connect strange...i don't know if the problem is with my port forwarding or something else
[12:05] <xamdm> linuxn00b, wihch tool do jou use for dyndns ??
[12:06] <linuxn00b> umm I just clicked on "my services" and changed it there
[12:06] <xamdm> linuxn00b, oh
[12:07] <xamdm> linuxnoob, that didn't work ??
[12:07] <jamin_l> Anyone with expertise in this subject? *sigh* this worked in Warty... now it won't work in Hoary
[12:07] <linuxn00b> xamdm, nope
[12:08] <xamdm> linuxnoob, what happens ??
[12:08] <linuxn00b> nothing when I tpye in incdb.kicks-ass.net:8888 in IE or FF nothing happens
[12:09] <xamdm> linuxnoob, did jou try to ping ??
[12:09] <milez> peopel
[12:09] <milez> how risky is it going to unstable?
[12:09] <jesuel> milez: you mean using hoary?
[12:09] <linuxn00b> xamdm, it doesn't work it used to tho but not anymore
[12:09] <milez> uh huh
[12:10] <xamdm> linuxnoob, am i allowed to do a portscan ??, just looking if 8888 is open ??
[12:10] <linuxn00b> sure
[12:10] <milez> jesper_ , it doesn't make sense to me that my windows machine has a more up to date version of firefox than the linux one
[12:10] <xamdm> linuxnoob, is thios jour online ip 207.81.39.129 ??
[12:10] <linuxn00b> yup thats it
[12:11] <xamdm> linuxnoob, ok then dyndns is working
[12:12] <linuxn00b> if it is working why cant I use incdb.kicks-ass.net:8888
[12:13] <xamdm> linuxnoob, maybe the forwarding isnt working, lets see what the portscan says..
[12:13] <linuxn00b> k
[12:14] <milez> err
[12:14] <milez> jesuel , that is
[12:14] <HakanGunduz> get download link ( live cd iso) ?
[12:14] <jesuel> *shrug*
[12:14] <xamdm> linuxnoob, where are jou from ??
[12:15] <goldfish_> BELGIUM ?
[12:15] <goldfish_> FRANCE?
[12:15] <goldfish_> AFGHANISTAN?
[12:15] <Myrtti> canada, I'd say
[12:16] <Myrtti> using /whois linuxn00b, then whois telus.net on command prompt
[12:16] <xamdm> thx
[12:16] <linuxn00b> canada
[12:16] <Myrtti> \o/
[12:17] <Myrtti> me teh guru!
[12:17] <xamdm> jeah
[12:17] <xamdm> anyone else from germany ??
[12:17] <jesuel> lol Myrtti
[12:17] <huami> Poland
[12:18] <xamdm> linuxn00b, still scanning, just making a pizza, bak in a few minutes
[12:18] <jesuel> wb kresten
[12:18] <linuxn00b> ok
[12:19] <Solatis_> ehrm, urgent question what should be too hard for someone to look up... where does /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.a point to ?
[12:19] <kresten> jesuel: Thanks. Do you hang out here all day?
[12:19] <Solatis_> while trying to fix my hoary nvidia drivers, i accidently removed the symlink :X
[12:19] <raghu> how to restrict user ..so that he should not be able to navigate outside his home folder?
[12:19] <jesuel> kresten: Nah. Im just here right now, listening to music..bored....insomnia...
[12:20] <falcon_> \whois
[12:21] <umarmung> Solatis_: ls: /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.a: No such file or directory :)
[12:22] <kresten> jesuel: :( I have another question then. How does your partition structure look like?
[12:22] <Solatis_> huh
[12:22] <Solatis_> that's strange
[12:22] <Solatis_> umarmung: what do you have in that directory ? you do have libglx.so ?
[12:23] <umarmung> Solatis_: yes, it's a link to libglx.so.1.0.6629 in the same directory
[12:23] <theine> Hi, are there any plans for including gnome-bluetooth into main?
[12:23] <jesuel> dOh
[12:24] <jesuel> alt+f4 bad :)
[12:24] <xamdm> is hoary running stable ??, last time i tried nautilus allways crashed
[12:24] <kresten> he he...
[12:24] <jesuel> kresten: did my message answer your question?
[12:24] <scizzo> xamdm: hoary is not stable....
[12:24] <Myrtti> xamdm: but very soon it is
[12:25] <xamdm> ok, ist it usable ;-)
[12:25] <scizzo> xamdm: its in development....but its moving towards being stable
[12:25] <scizzo> xamdm: no
[12:25] <scizzo> xamdm: its useful for me...using it on my laptop and workstation
[12:25] <xamdm> ok, i'm just installing it in vmwasre before upgrade ..
[12:25] <cent> hello
[12:26] <kresten> jesuel: Not really... I see you have 4 partitions, right?
[12:26] <jesuel> correct
[12:26] <CentraX> Can somebody answer me on a question please?
[12:26] <jesuel> plus another 5 or 6 that i mount via nfs
[12:26] <xamdm> shure
[12:26] <CentraX> Is Ubuntu full available in Swedish?
[12:26] <kresten> ok...
[12:26] <virtuald> CentraX: nstan allt r versatt
[12:26] <virtuald> :D
[12:26] <scizzo> CentraX: ngon gng kanske
[12:26] <CentraX> se p fan :P
[12:26] <CentraX> r ubuntu bra annars? ;O
[12:27] <CentraX> bttre n fedora? fr nybrjare allts
[12:27] <scizzo> #ubuntu.se if you want to talk in swedish
[12:27] <Myrtti> HEY!
[12:27] <Myrtti> indeed
[12:27] <jesuel> lol
[12:27] <CentraX> :D
[12:27] <Solatis_> umarmung: ok, well, thanks anyway :)
[12:27] <jesuel> hmm, didnt know about #ubuntu.se
[12:27] <xamdm> linuxn00b, only port 113 themes to be open
[12:27] <xamdm> my english is so bad..
[12:28] <Burgundavia> CentraX: the best way to find out is to install. If it is not, then help us make it so :)
[12:28] <linuxn00b> xamdm, odd it should be open I must have done something worg :(
[12:28] <kresten> jesuel: But the smart thing (or so i've been told) is to use partitions to: 1. the OS 2. a swap file and 3. local users.. wrong?
[12:28] <oz_> Under hoary If I install gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg and gstreamer0.8-mad which mp3 decoder would get used?
[12:29] <CentraX> Burgundavia: yeah, why not. :P
[12:29] <jesuel> kresten: thats actually the smartest way, But i didnt do that
[12:29] <kresten> Ok. :)
[12:29] <xamdm> linuxn00b, on which system is the shorewall running, is it the ubuntu system, ore is there another linux system which is connected to the internet ??
[12:29] <Burgundavia> CentraX: not being swedish, I cannot really answer you
[12:29] <kresten> You're from sweden?
[12:30] <jesuel> Not to worry. I mount my home directory off another server. This is my laptop. Only 60gb hd on it. My home directory is getting close to 3.5 TB. The server it sits on has about 6tb of storage atm
[12:30] <scizzo> jesuel: ubuntu.se has not been known yet
[12:30] <jesuel> scizzo: ill make sure i remember it. :)
[12:30] <scizzo> jesuel: not sure where to go and tell people about it
[12:31] <linuxn00b> xamdm, shorewall is running on the one i'm using now which is also the one i'm tyring to connect to
[12:31] <xamdm> linuxn00b, so this one is connected directly to the internet ??
[12:32] <linuxn00b> yes its directly connectred to the internet (eth0) and eth1 is my local so my other PC get internet
[12:33] <jesuel> scizzo: on your screenshot...uhm what is that in the bottom right hand corner?
[12:34] <scizzo> jesuel: ?
[12:34] <xamdm> linuxnoob, ok thne we don't need a forward, just allow the port from internet, for example Action accept, source zone any, protocol tcp , destination ports 8888
[12:34] <dmoyne> I have a question regarding characters blocks under /dev ; can anybody help me
[12:34] <scizzo> jesuel: that is a desklet for rhythmbox
[12:34] <jesuel> how do you load that?
[12:35] <scizzo> jesuel: hmmm...its a addon for desklets....you install a application called gdesklets and then load it from there
[12:35] <jesuel> thx
[12:36] <dmoyne> I have a question regarding characters blocks under /dev ; can anybody help me ?
[12:36] <Seveas> dmoyne, maybe. Just ask :)
[12:37] <kresten> jesuel: I have 40GB HD available on my laptop and 512MB RAM. My friend told me that he would double the swap partition (to 1024MB). But how much space should I preserve for the OS?
[12:38] <kresten> jesuel: Is 10 GB too much?
[12:38] <dmoyne> ok this is as a matter of fact very simple : should I want to create a premanent link from /dev/intu/js0 onto /dev/js0 how doI proceed to get that set all the time at boot
[12:38] <linuxn00b> xamdm, well it's still the same resule
[12:38] <linuxn00b> *result
[12:38] <xamdm> linuxnoob, the clients on eth1 are able to connrct to interne ??
[12:38] <linuxn00b> xamdm, yup :)
[12:39] <xamdm> linuxnoob, what kind of internet connection ??
[12:39] <ellokofonker> any one know the ubuntu spanis channel?
[12:39] <jamin_l> Anymore ideas on how to get SoundJuicer to rip to mp3? Got packages: gstreamer0.8-mad, gstreamer0.8-lame, glame. Getting error: "Could not create GStreamer encoder ((null))
[12:39] <linuxn00b> xamdm, adsl
[12:39] <Seveas> dmoyne, add it to /etc/udev/links.conf
[12:39] <linuxn00b> jamin_l, use grip and install lame
[12:39] <jamin_l> grip doesnt even recognize the CDROM
[12:39] <jamin_l> already have lame
[12:39] <jamin_l> and grip for that matter
[12:39] <linuxn00b> it should did you make sure it's point to /dev/cdrom ?
[12:40] <xamdm> linuxn00b, did jou restart the shorewall ??, maybe a nother firewall also running ??
[12:40] <jamin_l> that's the problem
[12:40] <jamin_l> it's set there... and it doesn't recognize the CDROM
[12:40] <dmoyne> Seveseas : you mean simply as a command line to be executed ?
[12:40] <linuxn00b> xamdm, yeah I did I clicked on "apply confguration"
[12:40] <xamdm> linuxnoob, if still fails try firestarter firewall, it uses a nice gui
[12:40] <Seveas> dmoyne, no
[12:40] <linuxn00b> ok i'll try firestarter
[12:40] <Seveas> check the syntax of the filke
[12:40] <Seveas> file*
[12:41] <wtd_> Error: Unable to initialize [/dev/cdrom/] 
[12:41] <dmoyne> seveseas then how you "add" it to this file ?
[12:41] <wtd_> ok... i am jamin_l until my ghost dies
[12:41] <Seveas> dmoyne: add the line L js0 /dev/intu/js0
[12:42] <Nermal> wtd_, /msg nickserv ghost jamin_l <password> ?
[12:42] <wtd_> not registered
[12:42] <Nermal> o
[12:42] <Seveas> dmoyne, to open the file: type sudo gedit /etc/udev/links.conf
[12:42] <linuxn00b> xamdm, I don't see what I need to do in firestarter
[12:43] <dmoyne> Seveas:  thanks I will do it do you accept another question as I am just a begginner (old Mandrake addict) with Ubuntu ?
[12:43] <Seveas> sure :)
[12:44] <wtd_> wel durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr that's the problem: /media/cdrom0 is where the CDROM is
[12:44] <Solatis_> ok, i give up, i'm simply not able to get nvidia-1.0.6629 working on my hoary installation :'(
[12:44] <wtd_> frelling thing
[12:44] <xamdm> linuxn00b, my pizza arrived, did jou open the gui ??
[12:44] <linuxn00b> xamdm, yup :) what kinda pizza?
[12:45] <dmoyne> ok  throgh the boot procedure I have 2 error messagesrelated to 2 modules shpchp and pcichp that cannot be loaded as I get the error message "permission not allowed" that is nonsense in roor mode ?
[12:45] <Seveas> dmoyne, that is a very common error which in fact is harmless
[12:45] <Seveas> to prevent it: sudo gedit /etc/hotplug/blacklist
[12:45] <Seveas> and add a line containing shpchp
[12:45] <wtd_> frell it ...
[12:45] <wtd_> no disc
[12:45] <Seveas> and one containing pciehp
[12:46] <jamin-l> do we have any brick walls in here i can bash my head on repeatedly?
[12:46] <xamdm> linuxn00b, hawai
[12:46] <dmoyne> you mean that those are very likely useless and ca be ignored ?
[12:46] <Seveas> yes dmoyne, they are useless and harmless
[12:47] <linuxn00b> xamdm, mmmm pizza!!!!
[12:47] <xamdm> linuxn00b, so jou told firestarter which interface is local an whichone is internet ??
[12:47] <linuxn00b> xamdm, yup I did
[12:47] <jesuel> scizzo: thx
[12:48] <dmoyne> you are the king of wisdom of ubuntu !
[12:48] <Seveas> lol dmoyne, no way :)
[12:50] <dmoyne> thanks for your help I will put this into practice before reappearing on this chat room
[12:50] <Seveas> good luck!
[12:50] <xamdm> linuxn00b. ok ther is are three buttons status, rules, an  the lastone i dont know in english, choose rules an then create new rule ore something that sounds like that
[12:51] <xamdm> sorry, just rightclick in the forwarding window
[12:51] <jamin_l> ok i'm really confused -- my CD contents are not at /media/cdrom0
[12:51] <linuxn00b> ok, I added anything I could that seemed like someting that would forward the port
[12:51] <xamdm> and choose new rule
[12:51] <jamin_l> and i don't have a /dev/cdrom
[12:52] <jamin_l> where the freaking hell is my CD mounted?
[12:52] <linuxn00b> jamesh, odd you should have a cdrom :-s
[12:52] <jamin_l> i know i have it because SoundJuicer sees it
[12:52] <jamin_l> and i can see the icon on the desktop
[12:52] <TFP> hi
[12:52] <jamin_l> i can't see the freaking thing
[12:53] <TFP> which version of the kernel is hoary using?
[12:53] <wezzer-> jamin_l: did you solve your problem?
[12:53] <jamin_l> no
[12:53] <jamin_l> i solved one problem and found another
[12:53] <wezzer-> see /mnt/cdrom
[12:53] <jamin_l> i tried that
[12:53] <wezzer-> if you are looking for your cdrom drive
[12:53] <wezzer-> hmm
[12:53] <Seveas> jamin_l, can you paste the output of the command: mount
[12:53] <wezzer-> check if it is mounted
[12:53] <jamin_l> oi
[12:54] <jamin_l> er i'll paste in a PM so i don't spam
[12:54] <Seveas> k
[12:54] <wezzer-> ok
[12:54] <Seveas> or use pastebin.com :)
[12:55] <xamdm> linuxnoob, is it working ??, is there a router ores somrthing before your pc ??
[12:56] <linuxn00b> xamdm, no it's not working :( there is no router before my pc
[12:57] <sihen> hello all
[12:57] <Seveas> hello sihen
[12:57] <xamdm> linuxnoob,if jou remove any firewall, does it work then ??
[12:58] <sihen> posible someone could help me out, when i mount /dev/hda3 /mnt/winblows it totally crashes my system
[12:58] <linuxn00b> xamdm, I dunno lemme check
[12:58] <sihen> NTFS file system
[12:59] <sihen> I need to mount my other hd's
[12:59] <linuxn00b> xamdm, same results :(
[12:59] <Seveas> sihen, what do you mean by "crashes my system"
[01:00] <xamdm> linuxn00b, then there is something else that blocks us, what kind of connection do jou use, how are the devices called ??
[01:00] <sihen> Seveas,  mouse is gone cant exit x cant do anything, a reset button is needed
[01:00] <linuxn00b> I use DSL what do you mean what are the deviced called?
[01:00] <jamin_l> heh i had the same problem with Woarty
[01:00] <Seveas> sihen, what are the last messages from dmesg after you try to mount?
[01:01] <jamin_l> couldn't pin it down to a single program so upgraded Hoary
[01:01] <Seveas> oh wait... reset
[01:01] <Seveas> no dmesg then :)
[01:01] <jamin_l> now i have a whole new ball of string to play with
[01:01] <xamdm> linuxnoob, ok so ppp0 is internet and eth1 is lan (so DSL is connected to eth0) correct ??
[01:01] <png> how do u mount sihen ?
[01:02] <Seveas> sihen, what are the last lines from /var/log/kern.log
[01:02] <Seveas> they should indicate something...
[01:02] <Seveas> if they don't: try mounting with:
[01:02] <linuxn00b> I dont use ppp0
[01:02] <Seveas> mount -t ntfs /dev/hda3 /mnt/winblows -o "ro,fmask=0333,dmask=0222,user"
[01:02] <xamdm> linuxnoob, just tell me what jou see if typing ifconfig (as root)
[01:02] <jamin_l> Seveas, testing my own knowledge, could you get the last lines with: cat /var/log/kern.log ??
[01:03] <xamdm> linuxn00b, how do jou connect to dsl then ??
[01:03] <Seveas> jamin_l, yes you can with that, but I meant the actual dmesg command (see also what i typed before)
[01:03] <jamin_l> ah what does dmesg do?
[01:03] <linuxn00b> just a cat5 cable to my pc and a regular line to the wall
[01:03] <Seveas> display all kernel messages since the last reboot :)
[01:04] <linuxn00b> xdm I see eth0 eth1 and lo
[01:04] <xamdm> linuxn00b, i never saw such a setup for dsl, do jou have a static ip ?
[01:04] <linuxn00b> nahh they give me a dynamic one
[01:05] <xamdm> linuxn00b, isn't ther a splitter ??
[01:05] <linuxn00b> umm I think so it outside of the house
[01:06] <xamdm> linuxn00b,how do jou connct to internet, ??
[01:06] <xamdm> linuxn00b, i mean pppoe ore another protocol
[01:06] <linuxn00b> a dsl modem...
[01:06] <xamdm> ok, what kind, how is it connectd to jour pc
[01:06] <sihen> lets try
[01:06] <linuxn00b> I have no clue I just plug it in and im good to go
[01:06] <jamin_l> i give up for tonight
[01:06] <Seveas> tonight?
[01:07] <Seveas> it's 1 pm :)
[01:07] <linuxn00b> xamdm, umm modem > pc >  switch > winXP(3)
[01:07] <sihen> root@Enigma:/home/sihen # mount -t ntfs /dev/hda3 /mnt/winblows -o "ro,fmask=0333,dmask=0222,user"
[01:07] <sihen> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda3,
[01:07] <sihen>        missing codepage or other error
[01:07] <sihen>        (aren't you trying to mount an extended partition,
[01:07] <sihen>        instead of some logical partition inside?)
[01:07] <sihen>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[01:07] <sihen>        dmesg | tail  or so
[01:07] <Seveas> sihen, so your windows partition is not /dev/hda3....
[01:08] <xamdm> linuxn00b, what is zmm ??, mine is connected via ethernet and uses the pppoe protocol
[01:08] <xamdm> umm i meant
[01:08] <linuxn00b> I was guessing ;)
[01:08] <png> sihen, sudo fdisk -l  /dev/hda .. what u see?
[01:08] <linuxn00b> I don't know what protocol it uses hahaha
[01:08] <sihen> Seveas,  trying to figer it out, i have 3 x hd's in this machine 2 x ide's and 1 x SATA. I have managed to mount my win install drive which was hda1. im trying to mount/find the other storage hd.
[01:09] <linuxn00b> it just works and I like it :)
[01:09] <Seveas> sihen, do what png says
[01:09] <Seveas> sudo fdisk /dev/hda1
[01:09] <Seveas> sudo fdisk /dev/hda2
[01:09] <sihen>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[01:09] <sihen> /dev/hda1   *           1        5099    40957686    7  HPFS/NTFS
[01:09] <sihen> /dev/hda2            5100        9537    35648235   83  Linux
[01:09] <sihen> /dev/hda3            9538        9729     1542240    5  Extended
[01:09] <sihen> /dev/hda5            9538        9729     1542208+  82  Linux swap / Solaris
[01:09] <Seveas> sudo fdisk /dev/sda1
[01:09] <xamdm> linuxn00b, i don't undestand how this is done, how do jou tell it which conectiondata it should use ??
[01:09] <png> ur ntfs partion is hda1 not hda3
[01:10] <linuxn00b> conectiondata?? I dont my modem just has 2 port and phone and a ethernet
[01:10] <sihen> png
[01:10] <sihen> i should have 2 NTFS IDE hd's
[01:10] <hank_> Hey all, anyone know If I can use apt-get to install linux-wlan?
[01:10] <Seveas> sihen,
[01:11] <Nermal> sihen, hdb ?
[01:11] <png> sihen,  type sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdb, or hdc or hdd .. find ur exact partion.. then try to mount.
[01:11] <xamdm> linuxn00b, how is this configured, how does jour prvider know that it is jou and not any other user ??
[01:11] <Seveas> try sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdb
[01:11] <Seveas> and also sudo -l /dev/sda
[01:11] <xamdm> linuxn00b, ther must be a kind of configuration
[01:11] <Nermal> hmm.. bzipping a 4.7 gb file taking a while
[01:11] <linuxn00b> xamdm, oh they just ask for my MAC addy
[01:11] <sihen> i have mounted hda1 successfully but that is just my windows install files. i need to mount the other ntfs hd cause all my mp3s etc sits on there
[01:12] <Smeven> does anyone know what driver is needed for a integrated 4-in-1 media reader in a laptop?
[01:12] <xamdm> linuxn00p, strange, in germany things work just a little other..
[01:12] <linuxn00b> xamdm, odd well atleast we both get internet :)
[01:12] <sihen>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[01:12] <sihen> /dev/hdb1               1       18182   146046883+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[01:12] <sihen> /dev/hdb2           18183       19457    10241437+   c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)
[01:12] <xamdm> linuxn00b, did jou ever try to connect to any other os from internet, i think jou used windows before ??
[01:12] <sihen> i think hdb1 is it
[01:12] <sihen> so to mount it i should use?
[01:13] <alfatau> hi, i installed linux onto my asus M6822NEBP notebook, and i have some problems: first i can't get the battery support, but i was able to solve it following instructions found on tuxmobil.org; second, when turning off the laptop, i'm obliged to keep pressed the power key. I get the message: Power down. acpi called off. what can i do, or to what is due this behaviour??
[01:13] <Seveas> mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb1 /mnt/winblows -o "ro,fmask=0333,dmask=0222,user"
[01:13] <png> sihen mount /dev/hdb1 and look inside it
[01:13] <p-fox> i dont suppose there's anyone here who can help me out with doing some modification to the clearlooks engine? (or know where)
[01:13] <linuxn00b> yeah my XP boxes can connect to the internet just fine :)
[01:13] <xamdm> linuxnoob, i meant the other way round
[01:14] <xamdm> linuxn00b, i belive that the problem is jour internetconnection
[01:14] <linuxn00b> you mean my linux box connecting to the net?? (it's 4:15 am been up since 5am) haha
[01:14] <linuxn00b> xamdm, I don't think it is because it used to work fine untill my gf spilled her drink all over the router a few days ago haha
[01:15] <sihen> got it :) ta, now the hard part, how do i mount a SATA drive
[01:15] <xamdm> linuxnoob, just slow for me, whichj computer is connected to the modem
[01:15] <Seveas> sihen,
[01:15] <hank_> Heya, anyone had any experience with linux-wlan?
[01:15] <Seveas> first try: fdisk -l /dev/sda1
[01:15] <hank_> can I use apt-get to install it?
[01:15] <Seveas> hank_, yes
[01:15] <Seveas> I run wlan now :)
[01:15] <linuxn00b> xamdm, my linux box is (the one i'm using now)
[01:16] <xamdm> linuxnoob, u just said the bad word router
[01:16] <hank_> Ooo, How'd ya install it?>
[01:16] <xamdm> is it a hardware router ??
[01:16] <Seveas> hank_, you meen the linux-wlan-ng driver?
[01:16] <xamdm> is thisone doing the connection ??
[01:16] <linuxn00b> xamdm, yeah I was a linksys befsr41
[01:16] <linuxn00b> that thing was build tought IMO hahaha
[01:16] <hank_> I don't know, I guess the utils and the drivers
[01:16] <Seveas> hank_, so you just mean "a wireless connection"
[01:17] <Seveas> which wifi card do you have?
[01:17] <xamdm> linuxn00b, do jou still use this router ??
[01:17] <sihen> Seveas,
[01:17] <sihen> root@Enigma:~ # fdisk -l /dev/sda1
[01:17] <sihen> root@Enigma:~ #
[01:17] <hank_> Yeah, I tried Ndiswrapper on my card. Im pretty sure that worked but I cant get a connection going. Maybe soething wrong with the windows side?
[01:17] <png> sihen, sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda ;
[01:17] <png> sihen, sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda
[01:17] <linuxn00b> xamdm, nope it doesnt work since it got water spilled all over it and I decided to set it up in flames muahahahaha
[01:18] <hank_> seveas, I have an excell 9-2.11b
[01:18] <hank_> oops, 802.11b
[01:18] <Seveas> hank_, so you still have ndiswrapper installed?
[01:18] <hank_> yeah
[01:18] <Seveas> with windows drivers?
[01:18] <xamdm> linuxn00b, ok, so now the dsl-modem is connected to eth0, correct ??, and the other computers to eth 1
[01:18] <comcor> Whats the media (cdrom, floppy, etc..) automounting junk that ubuntu uses?
[01:18] <Nermal> I do too :)
[01:18] <linuxn00b> xamdm, that is correct :D
[01:18] <Seveas> comcor: pmount
[01:19] <hank_> I think so, THe wireless deal says 100% signal stregth but the windows side says nothing
[01:19] <sihen> root@Enigma:/etc # fdisk -l /dev/sda
[01:19] <hank_> yeah with win drivers
[01:19] <raghu> when we access ftp folders through winscp ...it allos us to navigate through home and root...how to avoid this?
[01:19] <xamdm> linuxnoob, hm, so which firewall are jou running at the moment ??
[01:19] <sihen> root@Enigma:/etc #
[01:19] <Seveas> hank_, can you paste the output of the commands "iwconfig" and "ipconfig" on pastebin.com or in a private chat
[01:19] <linuxn00b> well I god shorewall and firestarter is in the taskbar
[01:19] <sihen> png, any other idea's?
[01:20] <Seveas> sorry, that last one is "ifconfig"
[01:20] <xamdm> linuxnoob, ist shorewall still running ??
[01:20] <png> sihen, sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb
[01:20] <png> sihen, sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdc
[01:20] <png> sihen, sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdd
[01:20] <linuxn00b> xamdm, yeah last I checked a few min ago
[01:20] <hank_> sssure, how can we private chat
[01:20] <Nermal> png, it's a good job you're being nice
[01:20] <png> :)
[01:20] <Nermal> I'd have moved on to dd'ing the disk by now
[01:20] <linuxn00b> xamdm, yeah its running
[01:21] <comcor> Seveas, okay, I'm unfamiliar with that and will have to look at it further
[01:21] <xamdm> linuxnoob, please stop shorewall and just use firestarter, because if firestarter allows 8888, and shorewall not..., jou know what i mean, don't jou
[01:21] <comcor> for the moment, I would like to get my cdburner to open, though
[01:21] <comcor> heh
[01:21] <Seveas> lol :)
[01:21] <sihen> root@Enigma:/etc # sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdc
[01:21] <sihen> root@Enigma:/etc # sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb
[01:21] <sihen> root@Enigma:/etc # fdisk -l /dev/sdd
[01:21] <sihen> root@Enigma:/etc #
[01:22] <linuxn00b> xamdm, ok I stped shorewall and firestarter is started
[01:22] <linuxn00b> ahhh still don't work
[01:22] <sihen> png,
[01:22] <sihen> root@Enigma:/etc # ls -l /dev/sd*
[01:22] <sihen> ls: /dev/sd*: No such file or directory
[01:22] <sihen> root@Enigma:/etc # cd /dev/
[01:22] <sihen> root@Enigma:/dev # ls sd*
[01:22] <sihen> ls: sd*: No such file or directory
[01:22] <sihen> root@Enigma:/dev # ls s*
[01:23] <sihen> sndstat  stderr  stdin  stdout
[01:23] <sihen> shm:
[01:23] <sihen> snd:
[01:23] <sihen> controlC0  pcmC0D0c  pcmC0D0p  pcmC0D1p  timer
[01:23] <sihen> root@Enigma:/dev #
[01:23] <comcor> There is no disk in the drive, and its like it has it locked. dunno how to get it open, other than a paper clip
[01:23] <Seveas> comcor, what does mount say about the drive, mounted or not?
[01:24] <comcor> its not mounted
[01:24] <comcor> according to mount
[01:25] <Seveas> and you cannot eject it using "eject"
[01:25] <xamdm> linuxnoob, nmap tells me that all ports are open
[01:25] <comcor> nope, or by the button on the front of the thing..
[01:25] <Seveas> what happens if you try to mount it?
[01:25] <linuxn00b> xamdm, all??? it should work then
[01:25] <comcor> its like it is locked
[01:25] <comcor> # mount /cdrom
[01:25] <comcor> mount: No medium found
[01:25] <comcor> wha-wha-whaaaa...
[01:25] <comcor> hehe
[01:26] <Vishaakje> hi, I've installed apache2, php and mysql. But when I try to connect to mysql from php it gives me this error: cannot load mysql extension, please check PHP configuration...
[01:26] <Vishaakje> does anyone know a solution for this?
[01:26] <xamdm> linuxnoob, webmin is running on port 10000, if my ip was allowed i had been able to connect..., what is this on port 8888
[01:26] <linuxn00b> its gnump3d it's a music server for a friend
[01:26] <Seveas> comcor, does a reboot help?
[01:27] <linuxn00b> and he isnt gonna too happy when he finds out he cant connect hahaha
[01:27] <comcor> Seveas, it hasn't in the past..
[01:27] <xamdm> linuxnoob, how does he connect, just via browser ore does he use a software ??
[01:27] <Vishaakje> the manual tells me to install a software package named "PHP-MySQL" or similiar, but there isn't such a package in synaptic
[01:27] <linuxn00b> just a browser anyone can connect to it
[01:28] <Nermal> Vishaakje, try php4-mysql
[01:28] <xamdm> linuxnoob, i als beleve that firestarter is not runnig at the moment, ther are hjust to many open ports
[01:28] <Seveas> comcor, do you happen to have another OS installed or do you have a livecd at hand
[01:28] <Seveas> if so: boot the other OS or livecd
[01:28] <linuxn00b> well it's started
[01:28] <Seveas> and try there
[01:29] <linuxn00b> I can see it in the top right of my screen
[01:29] <comcor> I will later, when I have the chance..
[01:29] <Vishaakje> Nermal, can't find it in synaptic :(
[01:29] <comcor> thanks for your suggestions, though
[01:29] <CentraX> hehe
[01:29] <comcor> I will say I've never ran across this in "debian classic" ;p
[01:29] <xamdm> linuxnoob, im able to connect to gnump, just http://jour ip:8888
[01:30] <Nermal> Vishaakje, just do apt-get install php4-mysql
[01:30] <parax> hi
[01:30] <Nermal> a simple  aptitude search php |grep mysql gave me that
[01:30] <linuxn00b> yeah I know it works that way but most people have it booked marked at incdb.kicks-ass.net:8888
[01:30] <Vishaakje> Nermal, thanks!
[01:30] <Nermal> :)_
[01:30] <xamdm> linuxn00b, that also works, just doing it at this time
[01:30] <parax> is there any place where I can download Ubuntu CD covers?
[01:31] <skummich> piratebay? :>
[01:31] <xamdm> linuxn00b, http://incdb.kicks-ass.net:8888/tagbrowse/album
[01:31] <Vishaakje> Nermal, grr, error: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[01:31] <Nermal> close synaptic ?
[01:31] <Vishaakje> duh :P
[01:32] <linuxn00b> xamdm, I can't see anything haha
[01:32] <linuxn00b> my own server hates me haha
[01:32] <Vishaakje> ah, then he can't find the package
[01:32] <Nermal> well its listed here
[01:32] <Vishaakje> E: Couldn't find package php4-mysql :)
[01:33] <Nermal> peter@ubuntu:~$ aptitude search php4-mysql
[01:33] <Nermal> c   php4-mysql                     - MySQL module for php4
[01:33] <xamdm> linuxnoob, just stop and then start firestarter again
[01:33] <error_29> good morning.  Has anybody had this problem-- in hoary, if I unzip files to the desktop, or download (with firefox) files to the desktop, they don't show up
[01:33] <Nermal> you have universe and multiverse sources enabled ?
[01:33] <linuxn00b> xamdm, ok
[01:33] <Nermal> though you shouldn't need them
[01:33] <Nermal> :|
[01:34] <xamdm> linuxnoob, u shoul notice if someon tries to connect to jour server, the icon becomes red
[01:34] <error_29> I can't find the unzipped or downloaded files anywhere.  It's like the desktop folder is a black hole
[01:34] <Vishaakje> Nermal, I'm kinda new to this :)
[01:34] <linuxn00b> xamdm, yeah I noticed that it sayed red for a while eariler
[01:34] <linuxn00b> now its just blue
[01:34] <Nermal> error_29, don't they go to ~/ by default
[01:35] <xamdm> linuxnoob, now it shoul change
[01:36] <linuxn00b> xamdm, nope still blue
[01:36] <error_29> Nermal, nothing's going there, and I choose "desktop" in the dialogs
[01:36] <xamdm> linuxn00b, there is something wrong, ijust did a portscan,did jou allow everything ??
[01:36] <error_29> when I had firefox 1 in warty before, firefox did confuse desktop with "home" but that's not happening here.
[01:36] <linuxn00b> umm I don't think so
[01:37] <xamdm> linuxn00b, maybe u choose the wrong device (eth0 / eth1) for internet, there is ssh open and webmin .., an a few  more
[01:38] <linuxn00b> yeah I oped ssh and webmin and there thould be 2 others gnump3d and db I think
[01:38] <Myrtti> you've got webmin open to the world?
[01:38] <Myrtti> aiks
[01:38] <linuxn00b> Myrtti, it shouldnt be cause I dont see it in firestarter
[01:38] <linuxn00b> argggg
[01:39] <xamdm> linuxn00b, http (80), 6667 (irc), 443 445, 1434,
[01:39] <linuxn00b> xamdm, I dont know what the other 3 are
[01:39] <Myrtti> I've seen those
[01:39] <Myrtti> can't remember what they are,though
[01:40] <xamdm> linuxnoob, https, and sql
[01:40] <error_29> OK, this is weird- I can find the unzipped files with "search for files" -- but they don't show in nautilus otherwise.  They're not hidden.  They're just invisible!  anybody have this problem?
[01:40] <linuxn00b> ahh ok I wonder where sql came from I dont remember installing it
[01:40] <SiRrUs> good morning guys
[01:40] <xamdm> linuxn00b, firestarter doesnt run on the correct devce !!, ure computer is open to the world..
[01:41] <linuxn00b> xamdm, WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[01:41] <xamdm> maybe here is somone else who can hel jou ??
[01:41] <xamdm> WTF ????
[01:42] <linuxn00b> xamdm, What The F**k ;)
[01:42] <linuxn00b> xamdm, what does the port scan say now?
[01:43] <xamdm> linuxn00b, just a second
[01:43] <linuxn00b> ok
[01:45] <xamdm> linuxn00b, what did jou change ??, gnump is unreachable again ..
[01:45] <linuxn00b> I started shorewall again haha
[01:46] <xamdm> linuxn00b, only use one Firewall, so then stop firestarter, ore remove it
[01:46] <linuxn00b> I did stop firestarter
[01:46] <ddaa> Is there a simple gtk2/gnome app to display a notification from a script/program?
[01:46] <xamdm> linun00p, i don't know what todo next, maybe someonelse can help jopu
[01:46] <Vishaakje> Nermal, well, I ran apt-get update and tried to apt-get install php4-mysql. But it still can't find the package
[01:47] <fade24> hi newbee here, need help connecting 2 internet
[01:47] <Vishaakje> update from deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu warty main restricted
[01:47] <xamdm> linuxn00p, now everything is blocked again..
[01:47] <fade24> can anyone help?
[01:47] <linuxn00b> xamdm,  yeah i'll check around later its almost 5am haha well i'm off to bed night, xamdm thanks for your help :)
[01:47] <ddaa> What I want to do is get a dialog notification every time a mail match a filter in evolution. Evo provide "run program" and "pipe to program" actions, so I would like the right program to hook in there.
[01:48] <ogra> ddaa: look at zenity
[01:48] <linuxn00b> xamdm, good they should be blocked :)
[01:48] <xamdm> see jou
[01:48] <ogra> ddaa: heh
[01:48] <fade24> hi newbee here, need help connecting 2 internet
[01:48] <fade24> can anyone help?
[01:48] <xamdm> hi fade24, jes i can
[01:48] <ogra> ddaa: http://www.grawert.net/software/evonotify/index.html
[01:49] <ddaa> ogra: thanks, but that will not do it, I need something more explicit than 'you have mail'
[01:50] <ogra> ddaa: but it might be a base for your enhancements :)
[01:50] <ddaa> :) seriously, I'm in a "quick hack this crap I need for work" mode.
[01:51] <ogra> heh, then go for zenity :)
[01:51] <xamdm> @fade24 still need help ??
[01:51] <Vishaakje> Search and you shall find :) solved it myself :P
[01:54] <theine> Hi, does anybody know a good bluetooth tutorial (ideally for Hoary)?
[01:55] <skummich> Google is your friend. [www.justfuckinggoogleit.com]  :)
[01:57] <ddaa> ogra: thanks, that's exactly what i wanted
[01:57] <theine> skummich: I did, but wasn't entirely satisfied with the results
[01:57] <theine> skummich: but thanks for the hint!
[02:00] <error_29> Is anyone having a problem with totem skipping, on every mp3, about a second into each file?
[02:01] <bas> error_29, no. is it just with totem?
[02:01] <erny_> hello all i could appreciate your help with cups server ... i can not configure it
[02:01] <error_29> good question bas!  you're right, I should check more apps (when i get some...!)
[02:05] <skummich> Hello. My Name is skum :)
[02:08] <seby_> hi, everytime when my ubuntu boot, i have to reconnect my router, so that i can get a connection to the internet. others computers like mac osx machine have no problems. any clues about that. something wrong with dhcp?
[02:09] <Zindar> define "reconnect my router"
[02:10] <Zindar> reconnect it how? what? why?
[02:10] <bas> seby_, so your router gets misconfigured when you boot ubuntu? or doesnt ubuntu correctly connect to your router?
[02:10] <membreya> lo SiRrUs :)
[02:10] <seby_> i got a smc router, when i boot my computer, i have to visit the router config page and manually have to reconnect to my isp
[02:10] <seby_> otherwise i dont get a connection to the internet
[02:10] <membreya> that's a router problem then seby_
[02:10] <SiRrUs> membreya good morning
[02:11] <seby_> but mac osx and windows work fine with that
[02:11] <membreya> only 8 mb for downloads today....
[02:11] <membreya> it's getting SO light weight
[02:11] <seby_> only ubuntu got problems with it
[02:11] <SiRrUs> :) yeah it is
[02:11] <membreya> seby_: if it truly is a router...then it shouldn't need your computer to connect it to the internet
[02:12] <bas> seby_, what does your interfaces configuration look like after booting ubuntu? (/sbin/ifconfig)
[02:13] <membreya> god I love ubuntu calender :P
[02:13] <membreya> cept that pic with the dude :|
[02:13] <Myrtti> you men
[02:13] <membreya> shush Myrtti :P
[02:14] <membreya> march has a good bum :P
[02:14] <Myrtti> I'll do a wallpaper with chocolate
[02:14] <seby_> bas, if i terminate eth0 and reactivate it again, it works too
[02:14] <membreya> oh ...anyone else not able to use their "hibernate" ?
[02:14] <seby_> but it doesnt just work after boot up
[02:15] <seby_> i can connect to the router, but not to the inet
[02:15] <membreya> seby_: is it broadband or dial up with the router?
[02:15] <seby_> dial up
[02:16] <seby_> pppoe
[02:17] <SiRrUs> coffee time brb
[02:17] <bas> seby_, how do you "terminate" eth0 and reenable it in ubunty? /etc/init.d/networking restart?
[02:17] <membreya> k SiRrUs :)
[02:17] <seby_> ifdown eth0 && ifup eth0
[02:18] <Upayavir1> Hi all. I'm getting "tar: A lone zero block at XXXXX" whenever I try to untar something. Different XXXXX for each tar file. Any ideas anyone?
[02:19] <membreya> lo tritium
[02:19] <tritium> hi membreya :)
[02:20] <SiRrUs> nothing like a coffee when the temp is so cold
[02:20] <SiRrUs> hello tritium
[02:20] <tritium> Hello SiRrUs!
[02:22] <membreya> SiRrUs: where in canadia are ya?
[02:23] <SiRrUs> Barrie Ontario  30 mins north of Toronto
[02:23] <membreya> aaah...french cannuck huh :P
[02:23] <SiRrUs> Nope :)
[02:23] <membreya> my ex-gf and kid live in Vancouver eh :)
[02:24] <SiRrUs> Pretty much all English around here
[02:24] <SiRrUs> oh yeah Vancouver is ok
[02:24] <membreya> really? hmmmm far as I knew all east coasters were french canadian
[02:24] <membreya> and lumberjacks :D
[02:24] <SiRrUs> lol
[02:24] <Hannes_> vancouver is cold
[02:24] <SiRrUs> not all of us
[02:24] <Burgundavia> vancouver is not cold
[02:24] <SiRrUs> Vancouver is warn
[02:24] <SiRrUs> warm
[02:24] <SiRrUs> compared to here
[02:25] <membreya> I work all day and I sleep all night
[02:25] <SiRrUs> I like golfing rather then chopping trees
[02:25] <Burgundavia> ah, you poor east coasters
[02:25] <Hannes_> -7C here now
[02:25] <SiRrUs> The east coast is like 1000 miles from here
[02:25] <Burgundavia> 10C
[02:25] <membreya> I cut down trees and eat my lunch and go to the lavatory..
[02:25] <xamdm> 3C
[02:25] <membreya> on wednesdays i go shopping
[02:25] <membreya> and have buttered scones for teaaaa
[02:25] <SiRrUs> we like thinking of ourselves as being in Central Canada :)
[02:25] <Burgundavia> and dress up in womens underwear
[02:26] <Burgundavia> just like my daddy did
[02:26] <Hannes_> but hey, school from 8.15-16.45 yay
[02:26] <superted> Hannes_: haha, where do you go to school?
[02:26] <Hannes_> Finland
[02:26] <SiRrUs> -15c here
[02:26] <membreya> i put on womens clothing and hang around in bars, i wish id been a girly, just like my dear papa
[02:27] <HiddenWolf> membreya: ??
[02:27] <membreya> SiRrUs: yes...it's true.. I'm tonedeaf :(
[02:27] <picole> hi,everybody
[02:27] <membreya> yes HiddenWolf ?
[02:28] <SiRrUs> hello picole
[02:28] <SiRrUs> membreya this isnt getting real boring
[02:28] <SiRrUs> isnt=is
[02:29] <membreya> im sorry SiRrUs :(
[02:29] <jesuel> mmm
[02:29] <picole> i wanna ask when the hoary release,can you tell me?
[02:29] <jesuel> much better
[02:29] <SiRrUs> no I mean everything is working for me ;)
[02:29] <membreya> next month apparently picole
[02:29] <membreya> oh ok :)
[02:29] <picole> o,merci
[02:29] <membreya> time to move to a new distro that's bleeding edge? :P
[02:29] <xamdm> is gnome 2.10 jet in hoary ??
[02:29] <membreya> bleeding edge = getting cut lots
[02:29] <membreya> xamdm: yes
[02:29] <SiRrUs> lol dont think so
[02:30] <picole> i am a guy from Shanghai
[02:30] <xamdm> membreya: thx
[02:30] <membreya> trying to pick up picole ? :P
[02:30] <membreya> lol
[02:30] <membreya> np xamdm
[02:31] <xamdm> will i have problems  with upgrade from warty (using backports)
[02:31] <picole> i am waiting for gnome2.10,but i saw the gnome release plan,as if today is the gnome2.10 release,am i right?
[02:32] <membreya> picole: gnome 2.10 has been trickled to hoary over the last few days :)
[02:32] <picole> o,i see,thanks
[02:33] <picole> anyone who have been Shanghai,i am studying at Tongji University
[02:34] <picole> hehe
[02:34] <Fator_Dee> I might move to asia in the future, if the software patents in EU fuck up everything :-p
[02:35] <shock> indeed
[02:35] <shock> :/
[02:35] <Fator_Dee> should start learning chinese in university
[02:35] <shock> those f****ing bastards are all bribed... everyone can clearly see that
[02:35] <shock> :(
[02:35] <Fator_Dee> btw
[02:35] <Fator_Dee> http://mjr.iki.fi/texts/patentfund
[02:35] <shock> hrhr I know
[02:35] <picole> :)
[02:35] <shock> u in?
[02:36] <Fator_Dee> nope, been thinking about sending a mail
[02:36] <Fator_Dee> but I have mailed my countries mep though
[02:36] <picole> me too,when i go to gnome.org
[02:39] <picole> thanks,guys.i love this place,and i love ubuntu too.
[02:39] <SiRrUs> picole and we all love you :)
[02:40] <picole> i will always be here later
[02:40] <Fator_Dee> "Even jesus- uses Ubuntu, why won't you too?"
[02:40] <picole> xiexie,this is Chinese
[02:40] <picole> see you
[02:43] <Xappe> what is a normal hdd temperature range for an ibook g3? think mine is getting to warm when running Hoary. I get 47-50C from hddtemp...
[02:43] <Xappe> and it feels quite warm on the outside
[02:44] <membreya> what about cpu temp Xappe ?
[02:45] <Xappe> membreya, don't think it's that high. cat /proc/cpuinfo gives around 30C uncalibrated
[02:46] <BiteMeBill> A typical range would be -40C (-40F) to 70C (158F). Clearly few users will have a problem with these numbers.
[02:46] <BiteMeBill> That was a copy and paste.
[02:46] <Xappe> from?
[02:47] <BiteMeBill> pcGuide
[02:47] <membreya> Ive had my amd64 3200 running at 120 degree celcius when the CPU fan wasn't connecting properly :P
[02:48] <Xappe> well, another strange thing is that I never hear the fan either, and I'm sure that worked when I had OSX installed
[02:48] <BiteMeBill> Xappe: Disregard what I pasted. I completely disagree with it..  Misread ot.
[02:48] <BiteMeBill> ot = it
[02:49] <BiteMeBill> Xappe: Software shouldn't be stopping your fans.
[02:50] <Xappe> BiteMeBill, well ok. I'm not that familiar with laptops. Started to use this one yesterday...
[02:51] <BiteMeBill> Xappe: I've had some laptops that there was no way I was going to put in on my lap.
[02:51] <BiteMeBill> Just too hot for my flesh.  LOL
[02:52] <arun--> clear looks engine is in the updates
[02:52] <BiteMeBill> Xappe: http://www.heatsink-guide.com/content.php?content=hdd.shtml
[02:53] <Xappe> hmm
[02:54] <milez> hello
[02:55] <milez> can anyone tell me how to modify the default gdm input language?
[02:55] <SiRrUs> hi
[02:55] <milez> because i seem to be entering hebrew glyphs as my username and no key combination i try switches it to english.
[02:55] <milez> i reset all the environment variables and restart gdm
[02:55] <milez> and the problem persists.
[02:56] <arun--> milez: did you try the gdm.conf under/etc/gdm?
[02:57] <milez> arun-- , i looked at it
[02:57] <milez> and found nothing relevant.
[02:57] <milez> did i miss anything?
[03:03] <sihen> y0 who wants to try help me get my SATA HD working? I have tried with png but we were unsuccessful
[03:03] <sihen> root@Enigma:/dev # sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdd
[03:03] <sihen> root@Enigma:/dev # sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdc
[03:03] <sihen> root@Enigma:/dev # sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdd
[03:03] <membreya> it should be sda sihen
[03:04] <sihen> root@Enigma:/dev # sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda
[03:04] <sihen> root@Enigma:/dev #
[03:06] <membreya> sihen: is your SATA drive detected at boot? ie do a dmesg
[03:06] <sihen> oops
[03:06] <membreya> hmm who here can help with grub menu ?
[03:06] <membreya> I want to know what the quiet splash command is for ?
[03:07] <Burgundavia> membreya: quiet is so that the kernel doesn't spew its messages to stout
[03:08] <membreya> aaah :)
[03:08] <membreya> danke
[03:08] <membreya> playing with splash images :)
[03:08] <Burgundavia> to see the diff, boot into recovery mode (traditionally known as single-user mode)
[03:08] <Burgundavia> that does not have quiet on
[03:08] <Burgundavia> and note that quiet only applies to kernel, so you still get all the init stuff
[03:09] <sihen> membreya, can i paste to u in priv?
[03:09] <membreya> sure
[03:10] <magaltavor> hi can i have some help
[03:10] <magaltavor> i have a problem
[03:10] <Burgundavia> what is your issue.
[03:10] <Burgundavia> s/./?
[03:11] <magaltavor> i installed hedghug and i made one an update and now it gaves me error
[03:12] <kent> magaltavor, hedghug?  Do you meen Hoary?
[03:12] <magaltavor> yes sir
[03:12] <Burgundavia> what kind of error?
[03:13] <magaltavor> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary/main Packag es (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_main_binary-i386_Pa
[03:13] <magaltavor> ailed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary/restricted/source/S ources.gz  Bad header line
[03:13] <sihen> membreya,  any idea man?
[03:13] <Burgundavia> magaltavor: can you surf the web?
[03:14] <magaltavor> of course
[03:14] <magaltavor> i can chat from the machine
[03:14] <kent> magaltavor, are you sure you have updated the list of packages (refresh in Synaptic) or run "sudo apt-get update" from a terminal?  either one will do..
[03:14] <Burgundavia> ok, just checking
[03:14] <magaltavor> the same
[03:14] <magaltavor> issue
[03:15] <magaltavor> couls you please regiveme the offical url for apt- for update
[03:15] <magaltavor> so i can recheck them
[03:16] <magaltavor> or anything
[03:16] <kent> magaltavor, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GuideToHoary
[03:16] <magaltavor> ok
[03:16] <magaltavor> can anybody tell me what is this
[03:17] <kent> magaltavor, make sure you get the Hoary lines correctly.   And then refresh the list of packages either in synaptic or Hoary. Then run "apt-get dist-upgrade" or upgrade from synaptic.
[03:17] <magaltavor> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Bad header line
[03:17] <magaltavor> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Bad header line
[03:17] <magaltavor> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary/main/source/Sources.gz  Bad header line
[03:17] <magaltavor> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary/restricted/source/Sources.gz  Bad header line
[03:20] <kent> mercurus, do you use synaptic or apt  to update/install programs?
[03:20] <kent> magaltavor, do you use synaptic or apt to update/install programs?
[03:20] <kent> damn tabcompletion
[03:22] <kent> magaltavor, you could msg me your sources.list file (the repositories in synaptic).  That way I can see if it contains any errors.  (dont post the file here, that way people will be angry)
[03:28] <magaltavor> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary main restricted
[03:28] <magaltavor> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary main restricted
[03:28] <magaltavor> ## Uncomment the following two lines to fetch major bug fix updates produced
[03:28] <magaltavor> ## after the final release of the distribution.
[03:28] <magaltavor> ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe'
[03:28] <magaltavor> ## repository.
[03:28] <magaltavor> ## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu
[03:28] <Fator_Dee> gah
[03:28] <magaltavor> ## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to
[03:28] <magaltavor> ## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in
[03:28] <magaltavor> ## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security
[03:28] <magaltavor> ## team.
[03:28] <magaltavor> #deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary universe
[03:28] <Myrtti> magaltavor: ever heard of /msg
[03:28] <magaltavor> #deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary universe
[03:28] <Fator_Dee> not like this :-/
[03:28] <magaltavor> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary-security main restricted
[03:28] <magaltavor> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary-security main restricted
[03:28] <magaltavor> # deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary-security universe
[03:28] <magaltavor> # deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary-security universe
[03:28] <Fator_Dee> pastebin, pretty please
[03:28] <magaltavor> Myrtti, i did it but missed something i ma sorrry
[03:28] <magaltavor> really ssorry guys
[03:29] <magaltavor> Kent
[03:29] <magaltavor> did you saw them
[03:29] <StoffBox-Steve> hmm guys i installed Enlightenment, but can find an option to log into it!
[03:29] <kent> magaltavor, yes. Im looking, but I cant see any errors :(
[03:31] <magaltavor> ok i will check somthing now
[03:33] <cocol> i have downloaded a new plashscreen...how to install it?
[03:33] <scizzo> cocol: use gconftool
[03:33] <cocol> System>Preferences>?
[03:34] <scizzo> cocol: no
[03:34] <cocol> i will try gconftool
[03:34] <scizzo> cocol: Applications->Systemtools
[03:34] <cocol> have to install it?
[03:34] <cocol> ok thanks
[03:35] <scizzo> Apps -> gnome-session -> options
[03:35] <scizzo> and that is the place with the splashscreen
[03:35] <cocol> iam in hoary
[03:35] <scizzo> me too
[03:35] <scizzo> I have it there
[03:36] <CentraX> oki
[03:36] <jono> sladen, PING
[03:39] <Brunellus> I have a stupid question about xmms
[03:40] <Brunellus> ubuntu wants to use totem to play back icecast streams
[03:40] <Brunellus> and I want it to use xmms
[03:40] <raydogg``> right click on the file
[03:40] <raydogg``> properties
[03:40] <raydogg``> open with
[03:40] <Brunellus> I have successfully made xmms the default CD player
[03:40] <Brunellus> here's the thing, though
[03:40] <Brunellus> if I copy the location and put that through xmms, I should hear the stream, right?
[03:40] <raydogg``> is it over samba ?
[03:41] <sihen> membreya,  here?
[03:41] <Brunellus> no.  I'm trying to play a stream off the internet
[03:41] <Brunellus> one of the ones listed on icecast.org
[03:41] <raydogg``> i see, i've never done that
[03:41] <scizzo> Brunellus: open location
[03:41] <raydogg``> I have a .pls for that and i associated the .pls with xmms and it plays shoutcasts
[03:42] <Brunellus> scizzo:  I tried open location, and I get nothing
[03:42] <Brunellus> so I'm wondering what I must be missing
[03:42] <Brunellus> I open location, I hit OK
[03:42] <Brunellus> and nothing.  nothing in the playlist, no output.
[03:43] <scizzo> Brunellus: what happens when you tell it to open location and what exactly do you tell it to open?
[03:43] <kapput1> I'm not able to open secure sites from firefox in ubuntu
[03:43] <Brunellus> scizzo:  I copy the location from the icecast.org list, like this:
[03:43] <Brunellus> http://dir.xiph.org/listen.php?pid=653504&file=listen.m3u
[03:43] <Brunellus> for instance.
[03:44] <Brunellus> I go to xmms, "play location" and put that into the dialog box
[03:44] <scizzo> that does not help
[03:44] <Brunellus> click OK
[03:44] <Brunellus> and then nothing.
[03:44] <kapput1> is there any other alternative to the browser
[03:44] <scizzo> Brunellus: try to download the file instead
[03:44] <scizzo> Brunellus: vi file.m3u
[03:44] <scizzo> or just open it as normal
[03:45] <sihen> root@Enigma:/mnt # umount /mnt/winblows/
[03:45] <sihen> umount: /mnt/winblows/: not mounted
[03:45] <sihen> root@Enigma:/mnt # mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb /mnt/winblows/
[03:45] <sihen> mount: /dev/hdb already mounted or /mnt/winblows/ busy
[03:45] <sihen> root@Enigma:/mnt #
[03:45] <scizzo> Brunellus: if the server is using mp3 and so on then maybe you are missing the plugin that tells you that you can play mp3 and so on in xmms
[03:45] <scizzo> Brunellus: find the restricted formats in the wiki and make sure that you have that first
[03:45] <Brunellus> scizzo:  it didn't work on an .ogg
[03:45] <scizzo> Brunellus: after that try to add the playlist again
[03:46] <Brunellus> and I have the codecs from the restricted-formats wiki
[03:46] <Brunellus> however, bizarrely, downloading and then playing them worked.
[03:46] <scizzo> sihen: some user standing in the directory?
[03:46] <scizzo> sihen: make sure that no terminal or something is using that searchpath...
[03:47] <scizzo> sihen: to find out if the mountpoint is being mounted just type mount or df -h
[03:47] <sladen> jono: /me is on GPRS busy fixing a box somewhere.  can you repeat the question?  /msg is better
[03:47] <scizzo> Brunellus: try to add the m3u file as a normal playlist then
[03:47] <sihen> scizzo,  i did a root@Enigma:/mnt # chmod 777 winblows/
[03:48] <sihen> would that be preventing it from mounting
[03:48] <Brunellus> yeah, that sounds like it might work.
[03:48] <sihen> root@Enigma:/mnt # df -h
[03:48] <sihen> Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[03:48] <sihen> /dev/hda2              34G  1.7G   31G   6% /
[03:48] <sihen> tmpfs                 443M     0  443M   0% /dev/shm
[03:48] <sihen> none                  5.0M  2.8M  2.3M  56% /dev
[03:48] <tizen> sihen: do mount -t ntfs -o umask=0222 /dev/hd<blah> /mnt/winblows
[03:48] <tizen> instead of chmod 777
[03:48] <scizzo> sihen: like I said make sure that no terminal or something is using the mountpoint
[03:48] <Brunellus> scizzo:  no, it won't add as a remote location
[03:49] <Brunellus> the stream will only be added if I download the ogg stream or the m3u stream, and add the file conventionally
[03:49] <Brunellus> weird.
[03:49] <scizzo> Brunellus: not as a remote location....download the file...and then try to add it with the addplaylist thingy
[03:49] <Brunellus> scizzo:  yes, that worked.
[03:49] <Brunellus> it'll do as a workaround.  now I want to know how I can add a remote location without having to go through this
[03:49] <scizzo> Brunellus: then you have no problem more then the browser not knowing what player to use for m3u files
[03:50] <scizzo> Brunellus: change the mimetype
[03:50] <Brunellus> how?
[03:51] <sihen> tizen,
[03:51] <sihen> root@Enigma:~ # mount -t ntfs -o umask=0222 /dev/hdb /mnt/winblows
[03:51] <sihen> mount: /dev/hdb already mounted or /mnt/winblows busy
[03:51] <Echylo> damn, how do you unblock somebody in gaim?
[03:51] <sihen> /dev/dev/hdb    /mnt/winblows   auto    ro,user,noauto  0       0
[03:51] <scizzo> sihen: have you looked so that no one is using that directory?
[03:52] <sihen> thats what iv added to fstab
[03:52] <Brunellus> scizzo:  how do I change the mimetype?
[03:52] <sihen> scizzo, yes
[03:52] <scizzo> sihen: that is wrong
[03:52] <scizzo>  /dev/dev/hdb < ---- /dev/hdb
[03:52] <sihen> scizzo, what should it be?
[03:52] <scizzo> not 2 devs
[03:52] <sihen> hmmm me looks
[03:53] <scizzo> Brunellus: 2 ways.....there is some way to change it in GNOME don't remember where though
[03:53] <sihen> fixed
[03:53] <scizzo> Brunellus: and then you have mimetypes in the browser....
[03:53] <Brunellus> scizzo:  i'm listening.
[03:53] <scizzo> Brunellus: look at the prefs for the browser...look at google to find the mimetype definition and then tell it what to do
[03:53] <sihen> brb
[03:54] <scizzo> Brunellus: often you can tell the browser to : open with : something
[03:54] <Burn`> is dvdrecord in the hoary tree?
[03:56] <sihen> what is adm? it fails on boot
[03:57] <Brunellus> scizzo:  OK, yes, that comes up when I click on the link to the stream
[03:57] <Brunellus> I can't find where xmmms is on the machine though
[03:57] <Brunellus> I installed it via synaptic
[03:57] <scizzo> Brunellus: whereis xmms
[03:57] <scizzo> Brunellus: in a terminal
[03:58] <scizzo> or which xmms
[03:58] <scizzo>  /usr/bin/xmms
[03:58] <scizzo> what it seems like here
[03:59] <scizzo> remember that you can add special parameters for it also
[03:59] <scizzo>  %s and so on I guess it is
[03:59] <Brunellus> huzzay.  that works!
[03:59] <scizzo> ;)
[03:59] <scizzo> glad to hear
[04:01] <sihen> scizzo,  so how do i fix this prob :(
[04:02] <Fator_Dee> how can I uninstall an application which I have compiled from source?
[04:03] <xamdm> make uninstall
[04:03] <Fator_Dee> mplayer, that is in this case
[04:03] <oscarh> is hoary rather stable by now or should i watch out?
[04:03] <scizzo> sihen: ?
[04:03] <jordanau> is there an open terminal keystroke?
[04:03] <Fator_Dee> xamdm: thank you
[04:03] <xamdm> fator_dee: np
[04:03] <zimba-tm> xamdm, is it possible to monitor install in case "make uninstall" does not exist ?
[04:03] <Burgundavia> oscarh: hoary becomes stable april
[04:04] <Burgundavia> oscarh: preview release in about 5-6 hours
[04:04] <xamdm> ziba-tm: i don't know
[04:04] <zimba-tm> xamdm, ok thansk xou
[04:04] <oscarh> yeah but with warty, it was quite stable a month before release
[04:04] <raggi> Hi!, i have some problem with my apache2, it is usig over 400mb ram !!! why !?!!!!!!!
[04:04] <scizzo> jordanau: not standard...you can fix that with going System -> Properties -> Keystrokes
[04:04] <jordanau> great thanks
[04:05] <scizzo> raggi: stop screaming
[04:05] <raggi> never!
[04:05] <raggi> :)
[04:05] <raggi> alright i will stop screaming, i just wondering why my apache2 is using so much ram... over 400mb :S
[04:05] <Fator_Dee> hahum... /bin/sh: -c: line 2: syntax error: unexpected end of file || make: *** [uninstall]  Error 2 || these came after I "unmaked" it, should I be worried?
[04:06] <xamdm> fator_dee: this never happend to me, hm
[04:06] <ronalde> saving a translation in rosetta fails with "A system error occurred." any clues?
[04:06] <Fator_Dee> well, mplayer won't start, so it did something :-)
[04:07] <xamdm> fator_dee: ;-)
[04:07] <Fator_Dee> but there were other messages too, those were the last ones
[04:07] <scizzo> raggi: memory leak?....look at the logs...
[04:08] <xamdm> fator_dee: did jou run this as root ?? ore with sudo ??
[04:08] <Thunderwood> if i could get my wireless network runnign life would be great
[04:08] <raggi> hmm.... logs?
[04:08] <Fator_Dee> xamdm: sudo
[04:08] <sihen> scizzo,  i still cant mount this drive
[04:08] <xamdm> fator_dee: then i don't know what happen
[04:09] <jordanau> thanks scizzo, i can now open it with control shift t
[04:09] <raggi> where would the logs be for apaceh2 ?
[04:10] <sihen> scizzo, :(
[04:10] <Fator_Dee> xamdm: well, I'll sacrifice a chicken and do some majick tricks, let's see what happens :-p
[04:10] <jordanau> rhthym box is really buggy isn't it?
[04:10] <xamdm> fator_dee. good luck, il go shopping, till later..
[04:11] <scizzo> sihen: what does the mount command tell you?
[04:11] <scizzo> raggi: /var/log/ somewhere?
[04:12] <raggi> hmm thx ;) i will check :D
[04:12] <sihen> scizzo, tells me its busy
[04:13] <ronalde> saving a translation in rosetta fails with "A system error occurred." any clues?
[04:13] <scizzo> sihen: but your fstab online also do a dmesg > /tmp/dmesg.log
[04:13] <[eDu] > hi
[04:13] <scizzo> sihen: and put both of them online
[04:14] <sihen> put it online?
[04:14] <scizzo> jordanau: rhythmbox works fine here
[04:14] <scizzo> sihen: so I can see the logs and so on
[04:14] <raggi> i dont find anything wrong with the logs :S
[04:14] <scizzo> sihen: on a page
[04:14] <scizzo> raggi: ok....you get any errors when starting apache2?
[04:14] <sihen> scizzo,  can i dcc send? or mail?
[04:14] <raggi> no :S
[04:14] <schweeb> what's the ETA on the preview release today?
[04:16] <kapputu> anyone here?
[04:17] <Fator_Dee> just barely
[04:17] <kapputu> not able to access secure sites
[04:17] <kapputu> tried with both mozilla and firefox
[04:17] <Burgundavia> ronalde: try #launchpad or #rosetta
[04:18] <ronalde> Burgundavia: thx
[04:20] <sihen> scizzo, ?
[04:21] <Tuxadermist> bleh still no adding launchers to the applications menus ?
[04:22] <sihen>  Tuxadermist i add launches to the desktop and they just dont appear
[04:23] <Tuxadermist> Hmm
[04:23] <Tuxadermist> Not good
[04:24] <scizzo> sihen: not dcc
[04:24] <sihen> scizzo,  email?
[04:24] <scizzo> sihen: I don't have time more then if I can get it online on a page to look
[04:25] <sihen> hold let me try
[04:25] <scizzo> sihen: hmm...wait a sec
[04:25] <scizzo> sihen: what does the line in fstab look like again?
[04:27] <sihen> hold
[04:27] <sihen> /dev/hdb        /mnt/winblows   auto    ro,user,noauto  0       0
[04:28] <scizzo> that won't work well
[04:28] <blackfeet> hi, i've a question about the ubuntu versions, whats the diffrence between hoary and warty? is it like sid and sarge in debian?
[04:28] <scizzo> first you need to tell it which partition
[04:28] <scizzo> hdb is the disk...but what partition?
[04:28] <scizzo> and the: ro,user,noauto is something I would consider
[04:29] <scizzo> I would use defaults,noauto in that case
[04:29] <scizzo> the auto thingy I would change to the correct filesystem: ntfs or whatever it is you are using
[04:30] <sihen> scizzo, so can you give me the line to replace it?
[04:30] <schweeb> blackfeet: warty is the current release, hoary is the release candidate... so right now, more like stable and sarge
[04:30] <scizzo> sihen: no
[04:30] <scizzo> sihen: I don't know what partition you are using
[04:31] <sihen> scizzo, its NTFS?
[04:31] <scizzo> sihen: but what number in hdb?
[04:31] <scizzo> sihen: look....hdb only tells me that you have a harddrive..
[04:32] <sihen> yes hdb
[04:32] <scizzo> sihen: you need like hdb1 or hdb2 or something
[04:32] <sihen> so how do i find this info out
[04:32] <schweeb> blackfeet: then when hoary is released, they'll create a grumpygroundhog (think that's the next name), so hoary will be stable and grumpy will be more like unstable, until they do the freezes, where it turns into more of a sarge
[04:32] <sihen> hmmm
[04:32] <scizzo> sihen: cfdisk /dev/hdb
[04:33] <blackfeet> schweeb: i heared that hoary is using xfree and not xorg, is it true?
[04:33] <scizzo> sihen: that will show you the partitions on that disk
[04:33] <scizzo> sihen: with sudo that is
[04:33] <schweeb> blackfeet: entirely untrue
[04:33] <sihen> dev/hdb1               1       18182   146046883+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[04:33] <schweeb> warty is using xfree, hoary is using xorg
[04:33] <scizzo> sihen: there we go
[04:33] <blackfeet> schweeb: ok, i think i will use an hoary ;) thx a lot
[04:34] <scizzo> sihen: the line would be: /dev/hdb1   /mnt/winblows  ntfs  defaults,noauto  0  0
[04:34] <schweeb> blackfeet: if you wait a fwe hours, there'll be an official preview release CD for download
[04:34] <scizzo> sihen: or something simular
[04:34] <blackfeet> blackfeet: from what? hoary?
[04:34] <sihen> so it should be /dev/hdb1       /mnt/winblows   auto    defaults,noauto  0       0
[04:35] <sihen> oh ok cool
[04:35] <schweeb> blackfeet: for hoary, yes
[04:35] <sihen> ta
[04:35] <scizzo> sihen: remove the auto and replace it with ntfs
[04:35] <sihen> think thats why it wont mount?
[04:35] <Bog1> hello
[04:35] <Bog1> does ubuntu have a security team or working group?
[04:35] <blackfeet> schweeb: now no hoary is available?
[04:36] <schweeb> there are unofficial CDs, but the official preview will be published sometime today
[04:36] <blackfeet> schweeb: oh, i think i have downloaded an official hoary live, is this possible?
[04:36] <schweeb> best to wait for that, so you can test it and make bugreports on it
[04:37] <scizzo> sihen: try...I am not sure
[04:37] <wixtech> Xappe: how is your ibook doing? Is it still running hot?
[04:37] <Fator_Dee> can I have all 4 instances of automake (1.4, 1.6, 1.7, 1.8) installed without messing up my system?
[04:37] <kapputu> I'm not able to access secure webmail from firefox
[04:37] <schweeb> blackfeet: don't think the final officials have been released... there are some near-final ones around, yes
[04:39] <scizzo> sihen: might happen that you need to reboot to get everything working as it should....but shouldn't have to...
[04:39] <scizzo> bbl
[04:39] <HiddenWolf> blackfeet: the pre-release hoary's are being uploaded now, not yet official/stable, but it's the last landmark before it.
[04:39] <Xappe> this temperature thing is driving me nuts
[04:40] <blackfeet> HiddenWolf: perfekt, then i will wait for it ;)
[04:40] <Fator_Dee> Xappe: be happy that it's not boiling your nuts :-p
[04:41] <Thunderwood> so where can i go to find out how to get my damn wireless lan working?!?!?!
[04:41] <schweeb> blackfeet: you could always install from what you have, but I figure, what's a few hours to wait so that you can fileb ugs on their official preview release, rather than an unofficial release where some of the bugs may have already been worked out
[04:42] <Xappe> Fator_Dee, blah ;) It's really hard to find what a normal temp of a ibook hdd is
[04:43] <sihen> scizzo,  check this, i mount it in root and it works fine
[04:43] <sihen> using user sihen i get
[04:43] <sihen> /dev/hdb1   /mnt/winblows  ntfs  defaults,noauto  0  0
[04:43] <sihen> but i have chmod 777 /mnt/winblows
[04:44] <sihen> root@Enigma:~ # ls -ls /mnt/
[04:44] <sihen> total 4
[04:44] <sihen> 4 drwxrwxrwx  2 sihen sihen 4096 Mar  9 13:40 winblows
[04:44] <scizzo> sihen: yes?
[04:45] <Thunderwood> annnnnnnyyyyyyyyyyyboooooooddyyyyyy
[04:45] <scizzo> Thunderwood: what is your problem exactly?
[04:45] <scizzo> Thunderwood: might be good to have a problem, error or something that we can base the problem on..
[04:45] <sihen> oops
[04:46] <drspin> does anyone know what a good VECTOR graphics program is for linux
[04:46] <drspin> ?
[04:46] <sihen> when i try access it with username sihen i get bash: cd: /mnt/winblows/: Permission denied
[04:46] <scizzo> drspin: inkscape
[04:46] <scizzo> sihen: yes...and you can access it with root
[04:46] <Thunderwood> i don't even know where to start
[04:47] <scizzo> sihen: that is the wonderful world of NTFS not good for use in Linux
[04:47] <sihen> yes and iv already done a chmod 777 /mnt/winblows
[04:47] <scizzo> Thunderwood: is the card found?
[04:47] <scizzo> sihen: *shrug*
[04:47] <schweeb> sihen: what are you trying to do? write to ntfs?
[04:47] <sihen> ok
[04:47] <Fator_Dee> http://sh.nu/~crimsun/mplayer/ <-- which one I should install if I have an AMD Duron?
[04:47] <DazeD||laptop> i get this wicked error when i try to run konqueror something about not being able to connect to the dcopserver
[04:47] <sproingie> is readonly ntfs reasonably stable?
[04:47] <sihen> schweeb,  not at all, im just trying to change permission on the mount dir so I can access it with other users besides root
[04:48] <sproingie> would be nice to get the fonts off my ntfs partition
[04:48] <sihen> scizzo, thanks for all your help
[04:48] <tizen> sihen: try mount -t ntfs -o umask=0222 /dev/hd<blah> /mnt/winblows
[04:48] <Thunderwood> scizzo: how do i check that? I am assuming no because it says that there is no trace of a signal in the icon
[04:48] <sapphire> hello
[04:48] <Echy> anyone knows why after the update to hoary some parts of the menu are missing?
[04:48] <tizen> sihen: that should work
[04:49] <schweeb> sihen: man mount... look at the uid,gid,umask attributes
[04:49] <tizen> sihen: or do you want to do it through fstab?
[04:49] <scizzo> Thunderwood: dmesg | grep eth
[04:49] <tizen> sihen: I know it works because I do it that way
[04:49] <schweeb> yea, what tizen said
[04:49] <blackfeet> does anybody know the historical background of the cool ubuntu releasnames?
[04:49] <sihen> tizen,  fstab would be better
[04:49] <scizzo> Echy: restarted gnome after upgrade?
[04:49] <tizen> /dev/hdb5       /Music          ntfs    defaults,umask=0222     1       2
[04:49] <tizen> thats my line in fstab
[04:49] <Thunderwood> what does that do?
[04:49] <sihen> schweeb,  the permissions where changed tho check this 4 drwxrwxrwx  2 sihen sihen 4096 Mar  9 13:40 winblows
[04:50] <schweeb> it's the umask that matters, sihen
[04:50] <tizen> sihen: not the files of the drive though
[04:50] <tizen> since you don't have access to change those permissions
[04:50] <tizen> read only
[04:51] <tizen> sihen: did it work?
[04:51] <sihen> dev/hdb1       /mnt/winblows          ntfs    defaults,umask=0222     1       2 ?
[04:51] <tizen> the dump and pass comments i'm not sure about
[04:51] <tizen> but it works
[04:51] <tizen> put that in your fstab
[04:51] <tizen> and it should work
[04:51] <schweeb> just use 0 0
[04:51] <sapphire> i was conected to the internet throught linux,  networked through another computer,  not that computer crashed,  and i can't get online with linux,  and i miss it so,  i dislike windows,  pm me if you can help me,  i will have to write it down as i am on windows now,  i am desperate
[04:51] <sihen> let me try
[04:52] <schweeb> tizen: those are for fsck'ing... set to 0 0
[04:52] <dazed_> saphire
[04:52] <dazed_> u on  lan or ppp?
[04:52] <tizen> k schweeb
[04:52] <sihen> ok let me try
[04:52] <schweeb> the ntfs is read only, so it won't need to be fsck'ed
[04:52] <scizzo> Thunderwood: it looks for the ethernet cards or something that is found on boot
[04:52] <sapphire> oh and i am new to linux
[04:52] <scizzo> s/on boot/during boot/g
[04:53] <tizen> thanks schweeb
[04:53] <sihen> same thing
[04:53] <sihen> sihen@Enigma:~$ cd /mnt/winblows/
[04:53] <sihen> bash: cd: /mnt/winblows/: Permission denied
[04:54] <sapphire> right now i am conncted straight to the dialup connection
[04:54] <schweeb> sihen: you have to remount it after you add to fstab
[04:54] <schweeb> umount /mnt/winblows
[04:54] <Echy> yes scizzo I restarted :)
[04:54] <schweeb> mount /mnt/winblows
[04:54] <tizen> sihen: sudo umount /mnt/winblows && sudo mount /mnt/winblows
[04:54] <gb6ygk> hello
[04:54] <sapphire> someone plaes pm me and help if you can
[04:55] <sihen> it works *jump* up and down
[04:55] <sihen> thanks guys
[04:55] <tizen> sihen: np
[04:56] <sihen> another quick thing, sound works perfectly but on skype when i call someone it saying ringing but i dont hear anything
[04:56] <tizen> Sorry, I don't know anything about skype
[04:57] <tizen> check see in properties if you can specify and audio out
[04:57] <Echylo> ow wait
[04:57] <tizen> an audio device i mean
[04:57] <Nermal> maybe its the multimedia selector thing
[04:57] <Echylo> it's gonna upgrade panel
[04:57] <scizzo> Thunderwood: ?
[04:58] <sihen> tizen,  /dev/dsp :)
[04:58] <tizen> sihen: s'all i got.
[04:59] <jennychica123> Is 'make dep' not needed anymore when compiling the linux kernel (in any distro) anymore?
[04:59] <sihen> nod
[04:59] <jennychica123> no?
[04:59] <Nermal> it's not
[04:59] <sihen> how I start with the fight to get my SATA working, dont think its in the kernel
[04:59] <Nermal> just make will automatically do that bit very quickly
[04:59] <Nermal> sihen, compile it into the kernel then
[04:59] <jennychica123> ah because of the newer gcc?
[04:59] <Nermal> though I don't see why it wouldn't be
[04:59] <Nermal> jennychica123, no idea
[05:00] <Nermal> I doubt it
[05:00] <jennychica123> hm ok thanks
[05:01] <sihen> whats a good mpeg and avi player?
[05:05] <[FiDO] > is today the official release of gnome 2.10
[05:06] <Nakah> hi, I have problems with suspend-to-ram and my laptop (Ibm T40p)
[05:07] <Nakah> can somebody help me please ?
[05:07] <meuserj|work> After upgrading hoary today, sound will no longer work... is this a known issue?
[05:07] <Myrtti> we're not mindreaders, so if you could tell a bit more about your problem, it might help
[05:08] <Nermal> Nakah, not surprised
[05:08] <Nermal> suspend to ram is a bit dodgy still
[05:08] <Fator_Dee> http://sh.nu/~crimsun/mplayer/ <-- which one I should install if I have an AMD Duron?
[05:09] <meuserj|work> I tried catting /dev/urandom to /dev/dsp, and I get static.. so from the OS level, sound is working.  But RB won't play.
[05:09] <scizzo> [FiDO] : yesterday was the release
[05:09] <Nakah> the "sleep.sh" is working, but when I restart the laptop the screen is freezed
[05:09] <eruin> how do I view changelogs for ubuntu packages?
[05:09] <eruin> anyone care to enlighten me? ;)
[05:09] <membreya> hmmm has anyone else noticed the "add/remove programs" under Applications > System Tools??
[05:10] <eruin> meuserj|work: long time since your last upgrade, eh?
[05:10] <Nermal> membreya, not got that, and I'm on gnome 2.10
[05:10] <eruin> meuserj|work: try running polypaudio from commandline
[05:10] <eruin> membreya: yeah
[05:11] <scizzo> membreya: yes
[05:11] <eruin> membreya: got that here too
[05:11] <scizzo> membreya: useful thingy actually
[05:11] <scizzo> [FiDO] : hmmm...or something....check www.gnome.org for that information I guess
[05:12] <membreya> if you encrypt a message (or sign it) with openpgp, can someone without pgp read that message? :P
[05:12] <eruin> membreya: can't wait for the system services part to start working ;)
[05:12] <eruin> if you sign it, someone else can read it
[05:12] <cocol> is it possible to install gnome 2.1.0 with haory
[05:12] <cocol> ?
[05:12] <eruin> if you encrypt it, they need your public key
[05:12] <meuserj|work> eruin, no.. I upgrade daily
[05:12] <membreya> aah ok :)
[05:12] <Nermal> cocol, no. but you can install 2.10
[05:12] <membreya> lol Nermal :P
[05:12] <cocol> that i mean...lol
[05:13] <Nermal> think so
[05:13] <cocol> with apt
[05:13] <membreya> thanks eruin :)
[05:13] <Nermal> I just upgrade to it
[05:13] <meuserj|work> my gstreamer audio sink is OSS, not esd.. so running polypaudio shouldn't make a difference.
[05:13] <StoffBox-Steve> hmm guys i cant remove Bootsplash  E: bootsplash-theme-newlinux:  process pre-removal script send error  10 back
[05:13] <eruin> membreya: np ;-)
[05:13] <Nermal> just do an apt-get dist-upgrade after an update
[05:13] <membreya> eruin: ...just use webmin for services :P
[05:13] <eruin> meuserj|work: true
[05:13] <Nermal> and you should get gnome 2.10
[05:13] <eruin> membreya: it works fine?
[05:13] <cocol> thanks
[05:13] <cocol> nermal
[05:13] <membreya> all I tried it on is samba :)
[05:14] <meuserj|work> eruin, and when I test it in gstreamer-properties, it works fune.
[05:14] <meuserj|work> s/fune/fine
[05:14] <eruin> meuserj|work: but stuff like rhythmbox doesnt work?
[05:15] <eruin> I think I'm gonna have to stop using polypaudio
[05:15] <Thunderwood> ok i used the dmesg | grep eth
[05:15] <eruin> it always uses 10% cpu
[05:15] <Thunderwood> it found one interface
[05:15] <StoffBox-Steve> can anybody help . trying remove Bootsplash give a Error 10 back :S
[05:15] <Thunderwood> ubuntu does not find my wireless card
[05:15] <meuserj|work> eruin, rb starts clicking, then crashes.
[05:16] <xamdm> Thunderwood: which one do jou have ??
[05:16] <Thunderwood> xamdm : i have both
[05:16] <StoffBox-Steve> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[05:16] <eruin> meuserj|work: I got that too, solved itself after a reboot, so I never found the real cause
[05:16] <yaaar> word
[05:16] <xamdm> thunderwood: what kind of wireless car do you have ??
[05:16] <Nermal> membreya, still not got the add / remove programs thing
[05:16] <meuserj|work> eruin, ok... I'll try slaying myself then, and if that doesn't work I'll reboot.. thanks.
[05:16] <Thunderwood> xamdm> they are both integrated
[05:17] <Thunderwood> xamdm> broadcom
[05:17] <eruin> bloody hell! polypaudio using 22% constantly
[05:17] <xamdm> thunderwood: which chipset ??
[05:17] <Thunderwood> xamdm> im not sure
[05:17] <danny_> Hello everyone
[05:17] <Thunderwood> xamdm> hang on
[05:17] <xamdm> thunderwood: ah, hm wait a minute
[05:17] <Thunderwood> xamdm> hm?>
[05:17] <danny_> I am new to linux
[05:17] <yaaar> is it possible to run warty with one or two packages (and their deps) from hoary? i'm looking to install asterisk, which appears to be in the hoary universe repo but not in warty...
[05:17] <danny_> I was able to install ubuntu but now am lost
[05:18] <xamdm> thunderwood: just thiking about (im german, sorry  for unenglish comments)
[05:18] <Thunderwood> xamdm> hm is an english comment
[05:18] <danny_> I installed it on a MAC
[05:18] <danny_> Has anyone else installed it PPC
[05:19] <xamdm> thunderwood: waht kind of notebook do jou use ??
[05:19] <reon> Hi !
[05:19] <hawke> danny_: I have
[05:19] <Thunderwood> xamdm> presario R3275us
[05:19] <danny_> Does it work well
[05:19] <danny_> ???
[05:19] <Thunderwood> xamdm>  it is the p4 not the amd
[05:19] <linuxboy> where is the doc on the wiki about the sudo stuff?
[05:20] <reon> Any ALSA gurus here ? I have a problem selecting my USB device as the default sound device.
[05:20] <xamdm> ok
[05:20] <Thunderwood> xamdm> ya have any thoughts
[05:21] <raggi> hile, i'm trying to set up pisg, and i dont know how i add channels to that?, can someone tell me how? :), i dont find the edit file :/
[05:21] <Fator_Dee> xamdm: I got the mplayer "uninstalled" and installed from .deb
[05:21] <Fator_Dee> so no worries \o/
[05:21] <thoreauputic> danny_: yup ( iBook G4 here)
[05:22] <Tuxadermist> Is writing a .desktop file for every new app the only way I am gonna get them to show in the menu's ?
[05:22] <yaaar> hey guys. i need a hand with mixing sources. can i add in either a hoary universe source or a debian sid source, and somehow specify that they are only to be used if packages aren't in the warty repos?
[05:22] <TPC> hello. I want to start another X server in ubuntu on :1 instead of :0 where I run openbox instead of gnome. what would be the best way to do this?
[05:23] <drspin> can I edit the channels in the Gimp?
[05:23] <yaaar> i want to install asterisk on this warty box...there's no package in warty universe for it, but there is for sid or hoary
[05:24] <drspin> What a good photo editing program for linux??
[05:24] <drspin> The Gimp lacks some MAJOR required features
[05:24] <xamdm> thunderwood: i hate hp, their website is bullshit, wait a few more minutes
[05:25] <thoreauputic> drspin: such as?
[05:25] <ells> anyone familiar with connecting remotely using samba
[05:26] <Tuxadermist> Bleh, every launcher has to go on the desktop, hope I don't run outta screen space hehe
[05:27] <meuserj|work> ok... I've cleared /tmp and rebooted my computer, and rb still clicks and crashes..
[05:27] <drspin> thoreauputic: curves, Threshhold,
[05:27] <drspin> thoreauputic: just to get started,,,
[05:28] <thoreauputic> drspin: you might want to enable the multiverse repository and install grokking-the-gimp (pretty comprehensive docs)
[05:28] <drspin> hmmm
[05:28] <thoreauputic> drspin: I'm no gimp expert, but a lot of things are done differently
[05:29] <thoreauputic> CMYK support is one issue, though ( I think it's coming, but not sure on that)
[05:29] <drspin> thoreauputic: i am 100% unable to find ways to use Curves -- which is a tool I use with EVERY image that I retouch
[05:30] <scizzo> thoreauputic: ones gegl is being used by gimp it will
[05:30] <Fator_Dee> right click on picture -> layer -> colours
[05:30] <missmarpl1> hi all
[05:30] <Fator_Dee> and yay we have curves
[05:30] <scizzo> drspin: what are you looking for?
[05:30] <membreya> hmmm anyone here using enigmail?
[05:30] <drspin> heh - yay!!
[05:31] <thoreauputic> drspin: I suggest you take a look at grokking-the -gimp - you may be pleasantly surprised
[05:31] <Fator_Dee> and if you are looking for different curves, I'll suggest google :-p *ahem*
[05:31] <Fator_Dee> okay, that was a bad one
[05:31] <Thunderwood> ok
[05:31] <scizzo> drspin: look at: http://docs.gimp.org/ and http://www.gimpguru.org/
[05:32] <Thunderwood> i used the demsg | grep eth
[05:32] <scizzo> that will help you a lot I guess
[05:32] <drspin> thoreauputic: I got it installed -- I have to get this website done to be presented in a couple hours but I'll definately check it out -- thanks for the help!
[05:32] <Thunderwood> i determined that the wireless card is not isntalled
[05:32] <Thunderwood> where do i go from there
[05:32] <scizzo> http://www.gimp.org/ has a lot of tutorials also
[05:33] <Echylo> is there any possibility to reconfigure my gnome menu's/panel cause I miss things in it like the automatic update notifier & window borders etc
[05:33] <meuserj|work> ok.. I have no idea why RB isn't working after upgrading Hoary.
[05:33] <meuserj|work> sound works in everything else, including the test button in gstreamer-properties
[05:33] <xamdm> Thunderwood, have jou tried Ndiswrapper and the Windows-driver ??
[05:33] <Thunderwood> no
[05:33] <drspin> Thanks for the help everyone - back to work ;)
[05:34] <scizzo> meuserj|work: works fine for me
[05:34] <meuserj|work> polypaudio isn't running, but my default sink is ALSA, not ESD
[05:34] <Thunderwood> xamdm>  how does one do that?
[05:34] <meuserj|work> it worked perfectly just before the upgrade
[05:34] <ben0ne> wtf is kubuntu ?
[05:34] <Echylo> is there any possibility to reconfigure my gnome menu's/panel cause I miss things in it like the automatic update notifier & window borders etc :) I happened after I updated to hoary ofcourse
[05:34] <ben0ne> ubuntu+kde ? :P
[05:34] <Echylo> yes ben0ne
[05:34] <thoreauputic> ben0ne: correct
[05:34] <meuserj|work> I've rebooted, I've blown away my /tmp, I've blown away RB config in .gnome2 and in .gconf
[05:34] <Sionide> www.pimpmyburger.com
[05:34] <linuxboy> ben0ne: yip
[05:35] <ben0ne> hum... ok
[05:35] <Echylo> thoreauputic, you know solution to my problem?
[05:35] <xamdm> Thunderwood: use synaptic, there shoul be ndiswapper-packages, il search a howto
[05:35] <meuserj|work> anyone have any clue what I should try next?
[05:35] <thoreauputic> Echylo: sorry, I'm not on hoary
[05:35] <Thunderwood> xamdm> synaptic?
[05:35] <Echylo> hmm
[05:35] <Echylo> but you know how to reconfigure the menu?
[05:35] <Echylo> or 'reset' it
[05:36] <thoreauputic> Echylo: it's different in hoary
[05:36] <Echylo> I can always try ?
[05:36] <thoreauputic> Echylo: in warty you could do applications:///  and edit the menu
[05:36] <thoreauputic> in nautilus
[05:36] <Echylo> yes but I need to reconfigure cause I miss things
[05:37] <ben0ne> is hoary avaliable for download ?
[05:37] <xamdm> thunderwood: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/ look there, synaptic is the ubuntu frontend for apt...
[05:37] <thoreauputic> Echylo: killing gnome-panel doesn't fix it?
[05:37] <Sionide> ben0ne, i think beta versions might be?
[05:37] <Sionide> i dunno
[05:38] <Echylo> nope cause I'll aready rebooted
[05:38] <Sionide> im still an ubuntu noob
[05:38] <Echylo> yes you can ben0ne
[05:38] <andreas> Good evening
[05:38] <ben0ne> Echylo, where ?
[05:38] <Echylo> hi
[05:38] <Echylo> at the website ;)
[05:38] <ben0ne> :)
[05:38] <Echylo> or check the topic
[05:38] <thoreauputic> ben0ne: see /topic
[05:38] <TPC> ~
[05:38] <ben0ne> ohhh, I see
[05:38] <ben0ne> :)
[05:39] <TPC> oops
[05:39] <meuserj|work> I've even tried using polypaudio.. and it still doesn't work
[05:39] <andreas> Are any of you guys experiencing problems with your usb pendrives?
[05:39] <thoreauputic> ben0ne: reading the topic is always a good move ;-)
[05:39] <ben0ne> thoreauputic, sure is
[05:40] <ben0ne> well, I was doing a dist-upgrade
[05:40] <ben0ne> but now...
[05:40] <ben0ne> better download hoary
[05:40] <ben0ne> i think
[05:41] <xamdm> thunderwood: irc.freenode.net #ndiswrapper
[05:41] <SiRrUs> ben0ne or just update to it
[05:41] <theine> is anybody using network-admin to configure wireless devices in here?
[05:41] <xamdm> me
[05:42] <ben0ne> SiRrUs, dist-update ?
[05:42] <thoreauputic> dist-upgrade
[05:42] <theine> xamdm: does it hang sometimes?
[05:42] <ben0ne> thoreauputic, or this :)
[05:42] <xamdm> theine: no
[05:42] <SiRrUs> update then dist-upgrade
[05:42] <xamdm> theine: warty ore hoary ??
[05:42] <theine> xamdm: so it works flawlessly for you?
[05:42] <theine> xamdm: hoary
[05:42] <xamdm> theien: yes
[05:42] <membreya> hmm weird..if I run the stock enigmail of 0.90 it works fine, if I upgrade it through the extensions it can't load :|
[05:42] <membreya> oh well :)
[05:42] <xamdm> theien: i use warty
[05:43] <theine> xamdm: i see, maybe that's only an issue in hoary
[05:43] <thoreauputic> ben0ne: to get hoary, change all warty references to hoary in /etc/apt/sources.list, apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:43] <xamdm> theine: what chipset ??
[05:43] <theine> ipw2100
[05:43] <xamdm> theine: maybe ist hardware related
[05:43] <theine> could be
[05:43] <yaaar> thoreauputic: how stable is hoary right now?
[05:43] <xamdm> hm, il use ipw2200, no problems
[05:43] <theine> hard to find out...
[05:44] <thoreauputic> yaaar: wrong man to ask - I'm a Warty stick-in-the-mud :)
[05:44] <yaaar> ah
[05:44] <quarupt> does cfdisk have WINfs support?
[05:44] <membreya> thoreauputic: old and stuck in your ways :P
[05:44] <missmarpl1> i use ipw2100  too .. had some probs with it after upgrading from warty to hoary. but this was due to hotplugging - now it works fine
[05:44] <membreya> I love hoary :)
[05:44] <thoreauputic> yaaar: it does what I need...
[05:45] <thoreauputic> membreya: yup, inertia and conservatism...
[05:45] <yaaar>  thoreauputic; well, how bout this? whatcha think would happen if i added the hoary sources and pinned them below the warty ones so as to get a package or two (well, ok, asterisk is the only one i'm thinking about) that aren't in warty?
[05:45] <ben0ne> hoary hoary...
[05:45] <ben0ne> well
[05:45] <ben0ne> who recomends it ?
[05:45] <ells> anyone familiar with connecting remotely using samba
[05:45] <thoreauputic> yaaar: on your own head be it ;)
[05:45] <yaaar> ells: you want the linux machine to connect to a windows share, or the other way around?
[05:45] <xamdm> anyone got a epson perfection 2580 working ??
[05:45] <membreya> ells: I have my girlfriends mp3s mapped with samba :)
[05:46] <thoreauputic> yaaar: probably would work
[05:46] <ells> yaaar, to windows
[05:46] <yaaar> thoreauputic: right on
[05:46] <ells> membreya, cool
[05:46] <ells> I thought all was well with that, but no of course
[05:46] <oaaltone> anyone here have any luck with hoary, swusp2 and fglrx drivers? i'm getting graphical corruption on resume that forces me to perform a hard reset...
[05:46] <ells> yaar, apparently, I had to open a port for an ip to go through
[05:47] <yaaar> ells: yeah, that's a quick one. as root, do this:    mount -t smbfs //208.98.212.234/Documents /mnt/cody
[05:47] <thoreauputic> yaaar: if not, you get to play with the bits after the explosion ;-)
[05:47] <yaaar> ells; obviously sub your own ip and mountpoint
[05:47] <ells> yaar, cool hold one sec
[05:47] <yaaar> ells; is your share password protected, or have user-level auth?
[05:47] <yaaar> thoreauputic: yeah, that's cool...this box aint critical
[05:47] <ells> yes
[05:47] <yaaar> ells which one
[05:48] <ells> yaaar, I have I believe user level auth
[05:48] <yaaar> k
[05:48] <meuserj|work> is ANYONE here having similar problems with rhythmbox?
[05:48] <yaaar> you'll probably need another option in there....i forget....one sec i'll check
[05:48] <meuserj|work> as I have described above?
[05:49] <ells> yaaar, sorry, but do you want me to put the ip into smb or console...
[05:49] <ells> yaaar: smb is mounted though
[05:49] <yaaar> ells: not sure what you mean. did that command mount that filesystem for tyou?
[05:49] <andreas> Does anyone know a place I can download AA without registering?
[05:50] <ells> nope
[05:50] <yaaar> k one sec
[05:50] <heze> howdy folks
[05:50] <ells> is that all one command
[05:51] <Fator_Dee> andreas: AA?
[05:51] <thoreauputic> Fator_Dee: America's Army is my guess...
[05:52] <Fator_Dee> mine too, but you can never be sure with acronyms (is that an acronym :-p)
[05:52] <thoreauputic> Alcoholics Anonymous
[05:52] <thoreauputic> ;)
[05:52] <yaaar> ells: ok, try it like this:    mount -t smbfs -o username=administrator,password=password //208.98.212.234/Documents /mnt/cody
[05:52] <yaaar> ells: again, you'll want to substitute the correct information for the share
[05:52] <ells> yaaar: cool, hold one
[05:53] <Fator_Dee> andreas: it seems that you can from filefront
[05:53] <GNAM> why new license of xfree is bad?
[05:53] <yaaar> GNAM: because it's not GPL compatible. That in itself wouldn't be that bad....if it weren't for the huge number of GPL projects already using the libs and code
[05:53] <thoreauputic> GNAM: why does it matter, since xorg is better?
[05:54] <sapphire> it didn't work i hope i didn't mess up anything
[05:54] <BobaFett> Guyssss, I need help with setting folder permissions! =(
[05:54] <BobaFett> How do I set partition permissions RWE for all users? I cant, even in a root terminal =(
[05:54] <thoreauputic> BobaFett: you shouldn't
[05:55] <heze> you'd have to mount it with different parameters
[05:55] <GNAM> wow xorg r u l e z
[05:55] <membreya> woohoo...got grub splash images working :P
[05:55] <BobaFett> oh come on, thoreauputic, im the only user of this pc and i really need that partition...
[05:55] <schasi> how so?
[05:56] <BobaFett> i cant use it for any purpose whatsoever, its just...lying there!
[05:56] <thoreauputic> BobaFett: nevertheless, that's not how it works
[05:56] <BobaFett> thoreauputic: Ahhh i get it...i got the procedure all wrong?
[05:56] <ben0ne> membreya, how ?
[05:56] <thoreauputic> BobaFett: if your group has access, you can access it
[05:56] <membreya> ben0ne: it's only for the grub menu, it's not a splash screen at boot
[05:56] <thoreauputic> which doesn't require 777
[05:57] <thoreauputic> only say 755
[05:57] <ben0ne> BobaFett, mount umask=0000
[05:57] <BobaFett> thoreauputic: Only owner has write privileges (owner being root)
[05:57] <marcin_ant> hi all
[05:57] <BobaFett> ben0ne: /mnt umask=0000 ?
[05:57] <ben0ne> membreya, :( hehehe
[05:57] <marcin_ant> is there something like quicktime player for ubuntu?
[05:57] <thoreauputic> 755 gives group and others write access
[05:57] <BobaFett> ben0ne: I still feel totally lost on linux *blush*
[05:57] <ben0ne> BobaFett, nooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[05:57] <ben0ne> :)
[05:58] <BobaFett> ben0ne: Oh, dont worry...i asked first xD
[05:58] <membreya> ben0ne: you can add a splash screen but it requires a recompilation of the kernel
[05:58] <ben0ne> BobaFett, edit fstab
[05:58] <BobaFett> ben0ne: fstab? O.o
[05:58] <heze> does anyone know how to get a single network interface to have a static ip address and another ip address fetched from dhcp server?
[05:58] <BobaFett> ben0ne: could you go step by step? Ive never done this before... =)
[05:58] <heze> bobafett, /etc/fstab
[05:58] <ben0ne> BobaFett, add: /device  /mout_poit  fs  umask=0222  0  0
[05:59] <ben0ne> heze, edit /etc/network/interfaces
[05:59] <gfxstyler> hey guys
[05:59] <ben0ne> heze, put AUTO in the interface u want dhcp
[05:59] <BobaFett> Ohh...ok guys...lets give it a try...mounting /etc/fstab
[05:59] <gilles> When I try to connect a friend's computer with ssh (he uses ubuntu), I get the err msg: connect to host 81.65.152.177 port 22: Connection refused. What can I do to make it work ?
[05:59] <ben0ne> heze, and set the parameters for the other (ip, mask, etc)
[05:59] <thoreauputic> ben0ne: unless I'm mistaken, that's a read-only umask - you need say 002
[05:59] <membreya> gilles: does he have port 22 open? :P
[06:00] <schweeb> gilles: apt-get install openssh-server
[06:00] <heze> neofeed, auto br0 makes bridge go UP automatically, not use dhcp
[06:00] <heze> iface br0 inet dhcp makes it use dhcp
[06:00] <gilles> schweeb: it's installed already on its computer
[06:00] <schweeb> and, be sure that he has it forwarded on the firewal
[06:00] <Bog1> hello
[06:00] <heze> do i add two iface statements?
[06:00] <schweeb> +l
[06:00] <ben0ne> thoreauputic, hum...
[06:00] <gilles> membreya: How to see if port 22 is open ?
[06:00] <ben0ne> thoreauputic, i think umas is inverse os mask :)
[06:00] <thoreauputic> ben0ne: that would produce 444 I think?
[06:01] <ben0ne> thoreauputic, u right
[06:01] <ben0ne> thoreauputic, anyways, just let him put umask=0000 and wverything's gonna be allright
[06:01] <ben0ne> :)
[06:02] <BobaFett> ben0ne: Ok, I think I got the whole fstab logic...now...How can I modify it so it includes dev/hdd6 (i think thats my partition)?
[06:02] <ben0ne> BobaFett, add this line on your fstab: /dev/hdd6  /mnt/hd6  vfat  umask=0000  0  0
[06:03] <BobaFett> You guys are da bomb...you know that? Ive done 2 lines of procedures amd Im already lost in space...
[06:03] <ben0ne> BobaFett, dont forget to create the /mnt/hd6 directory
[06:03] <ben0ne> BobaFett, and I presume u r mounting a fat filesystem
[06:03] <BobaFett> ben0ne: I have to create a mnt/hdd6 folder...ok...then, I edit fstab with the line you just typed...but how do I get to fstab?
[06:04] <BobaFett> ben0ne: yes, FAT32 for sharing files with Wintendo
[06:04] <heze> nano -w /etc/fstab
[06:04] <ben0ne> if not, change the vfat to ntfs or extX
[06:04] <BobaFett> Thanks, heze! =)
[06:04] <heze> np :)
[06:04] <BobaFett> Ok, guys, lets see what this does... =P
[06:04] <ben0ne> BobaFett, vim /etc/fstab
[06:04] <thoreauputic> ben0ne: if it's ntfs, then umask=0000 is a *really* bad idea....
[06:05] <ben0ne> thoreauputic, yes, it is
[06:05] <heze> ntfs write support still dangerous? :o
[06:05] <thoreauputic> yup
[06:05] <ben0ne> thoreauputic, unless u have experimental writting support for ntfs on your kernel ;)
[06:05] <heze> iirc one can give a parameter for the module to allow/enable write support
[06:05] <scizzo> ummm.... ben0ne look at that once again
[06:05] <thoreauputic> heze: there's a thing called "captive" that does it, but as ben0ne says, experimental
[06:06] <scizzo> ....experimental
[06:06] <ben0ne> scizzo, ?
[06:06] <scizzo> :P
[06:06] <ben0ne> scizzo, hehehe
[06:06] <heze> ben0ne, basically: don't do it.
[06:06] <scizzo> so...no it aint safe
[06:06] <heze> oops, getting confused with nicks
[06:06] <membreya> hmm anyone know how to use the keyboard shortcuts to use the windows key?
[06:06] <membreya> I press the windows key, but it doesnt let me press another key for a combo
[06:06] <ben0ne> membreya, then... dont use it
[06:06] <ben0ne> hehehe
[06:06] <BobaFett> Dont worry guys, im mounting FAT32 =)
[06:07] <thoreauputic> membreya: mentioned on the mailing list as a "known issue" IIRC
[06:07] <heze> membreya, you'll need to remap it with xset oslt, i dunno but google will get you an answer on that
[06:07] <membreya> thoreauputic: in like a few weeks of being on the mail list, I have 2200 messages :P
[06:08] <thoreauputic> of course, if you use fluxbox it ceases to be a problem...*g*
[06:08] <membreya> thanks heze :)
[06:08] <heze> i hope your spamfilters are up to date ;)
[06:08] <membreya> all the spam people complain about, I don't get any :|
[06:08] <thoreauputic> membreya: yes, the list is pretty heavy traffic :)
[06:08] <Fator_Dee> membreya: I think there was something on the howto-forum regarding that
[06:08] <membreya> meh...windows keys are just another way of microsoft "keeping me down" :P
[06:09] <heze> ben0ne, if i can go back to the network interface issue, might you have experience on that, that it actually works?
[06:09] <membreya> i feel so dirty using an MS keyboard and mouse :P
[06:09] <BobaFett> Guys...im a little embarrassed here...but...how exactly do I ADD lines to fstab?
[06:09] <membreya> BobaFett: sudo /etc/fstab
[06:09] <membreya> from a terminal
[06:09] <Fator_Dee> and an editor of course
[06:09] <hawke> BobaFett: sudo nano /etc/fstab
[06:09] <thoreauputic> membreya: get penguin for your win key from EverythingLinux ;)
[06:09] <membreya> oh jebus :P
[06:09] <BobaFett> I ran vim /etc/fstab from a root terminal, is it just as good?
[06:09] <hawke> BobaFett: it's an ordinary text editor...
[06:09] <membreya> my bad
[06:09] <membreya> vim? ewww
[06:10] <ben0ne> heze, what works ?
[06:10] <membreya> that requires more than 1 brain cell
[06:10] <Fator_Dee> vim is not good for newbies :-p
[06:10] <BobaFett> hawke: nopes, im still on terminal...
[06:10] <heze> ben0ne, having the interface having 2 different ip addresses at the same time, one static and one dynamic
[06:10] <hawke> BobaFett: nano is a terminal app
[06:10] <BobaFett> membreya: oh come on!!! Ill use vim someday, youll see! *evil laughter*
[06:10] <crypticreign> ubuntuguide.org is down
[06:10] <ben0ne> heze, sure
[06:10] <BobaFett> Ok, Ill try with nano
[06:10] <heze> ben0ne, i'd really appreciate the lines for interfaces on that :)
[06:10] <ben0ne> BobaFett, try mcedit
[06:11] <ben0ne> heze, wait
[06:11] <BobaFett> mcedit command not found :(
[06:11] <thoreauputic> BobaFett: type vimtutor when you decide to become a certified Linux geek ;)
[06:11] <BobaFett> thoreauputic: Will do! =)
[06:11] <thoreauputic> mc isn't installed by default
[06:11] <thoreauputic> use nano - it's pretty easy
[06:11] <ben0ne> heze, ok, so u have eth0 and eth1, right ?
[06:12] <heze> ben0ne, no, i've br0 :)
[06:12] <thoreauputic> even has cheatcodes at the bottom
[06:12] <ben0ne> heze, ohhhh
[06:12] <ben0ne> heze, no prob :)
[06:12] <BobaFett> Ok guys, Nano's a breeza...
[06:12] <BobaFett> but I already see hdd6
[06:12] <BobaFett> mount point /windows (as suggested by the setup)
[06:12] <ben0ne> heze, u put on /etc/network/interfaces:
[06:12] <ben0ne> heze, auto lo
[06:12] <hawke> BobaFett: does the directory /windows exist?
[06:13] <ben0ne> heze, auto br0 # for dhcp
[06:13] <BobaFett> Umm...thinking windows philosophy, yes, it shows on the file manager...but then again...this is not windows...
[06:13] <ben0ne> damm
[06:13] <heze> :)
[06:13] <hawke> BobaFett: If it does, run 'mount' and make sure it's mounted
[06:13] <ben0ne> heze, ill send my file
[06:13] <BobaFett> So lets say no, I havent created a /windows folder myself =)
[06:13] <heze> ben0ne, sure
[06:13] <ben0ne> hehehe
[06:13] <BobaFett> Ok...Ill try
[06:13] <theine> anybody upgraded to the most recent ubuntu-artwork package for Hoary within the last hour?
[06:14] <thoreauputic> BobaFett: /windows,  or /media/windows ? or /mnt/windows ?
[06:14] <BobaFett> thoreauputic: /mnt was empty
[06:14] <ben0ne> ...if i remember how to do it
[06:14] <BobaFett> thoreauputic: lets put a /windows folder in it and see what happens...
[06:14] <heze> bobafett, df -h | grep hdd6 and paste results? :)
[06:15] <hawke> BobaFett: any results from 'mount'?
[06:15] <thoreauputic> mkdir /mnt/windows
[06:15] <ben0ne> there it goes
[06:15] <heze> ben0ne, /send? ;)
[06:15] <ben0ne> still remember irc commands
[06:15] <ben0ne> :)
[06:15] <heze> usually an alias to do it
[06:15] <ben0ne> heze, /dcc send
[06:15] <heze> that's the real command, yeah :)
[06:15] <ben0ne> heze, accept the file
[06:16] <heze> eww, nice ip address
[06:16] <ben0ne> :)
[06:16] <BobaFett> hawke: No result from mount even after creating /windows in /mnt
[06:16] <JDigital> How do I get xmms to play .mpc files?
[06:16] <heze> 0.0.196.151, not gonna connect to that :P
[06:16] <ben0ne> hum...
[06:16] <hawke> BobaFett: then try 'sudo mount /dev/hdd6'
[06:16] <heze> can u put it at pastebin.com?
[06:16] <JDigital> installing the plugin from musepack.net gives an error saying that musepack isn't installed
[06:16] <ben0ne> pastebin.com ?
[06:17] <thoreauputic> BobaFett: it isn't magic - it has to tally with the line in /etc/fstab
[06:17] <thoreauputic> :)
[06:17] <heze> you can paste files there for others to see :)
[06:17] <ben0ne> ohhhh
[06:17] <ben0ne> sure
[06:17] <BobaFett> hawke: Oh, I got something new ... 'hdd6 is already mounted in /windows'
[06:17] <heze> dcc rarely works, the firewalls..
[06:17] <queuetue> Where do I change the recipient for system emails?
[06:17] <queuetue> /etc/aliases?
[06:17] <Onishin> slt all :)
[06:17] <BobaFett> hawke: I guess I should feel really dumb right now =P
[06:17] <ben0ne> heze, yeah
[06:17] <ben0ne> heze, icq ?
[06:17] <heze> no sry =(
[06:18] <heze> (msn, yeah ;)
[06:18] <thoreauputic> BobaFett: cd /windows   ( then ls -al to see what's in there)
[06:18] <heze> but pastebin should do the trick
[06:18] <ben0ne> heze, ben0ne
[06:18] <ben0ne> heze, @hotmail
[06:18] <ben0ne> heze,.com
[06:19] <BobaFett> thoreauputic: it was an empty partition...
[06:19] <BobaFett> thoreauputic: there should be nothing there =)
[06:19] <thoreauputic> ah, OK :)
[06:19] <Echylo> how to install shockwave?
[06:19] <thoreauputic> except  . and ..
[06:19] <Echylo> is there a package for it?
[06:20] <BobaFett> thoreauputic: fstab shows /dev/hdd6 as FAT and with /windows as mount point. There actually is a /windows folder in root. But I cant write on it... could that be a screwup in my fstab?
[06:21] <Echylo> bonjour
[06:21] <ben0ne> BobaFett, omg :)
[06:21] <thoreauputic> BobaFett: what does the fstab line say?
[06:21] <Echylo> how to install schockwave for firefox?
[06:22] <BobaFett> thoreauputic: File system: dev/hdd6 Mount Points: /windows Type: vfat Options: defaults Dump: 0 Pass: 0
[06:23] <thoreauputic> umm.. that doesn't look like an fstab line - did you add "File system" etc?
[06:23] <Echylo> grmbl
[06:23] <blizah> when ubuntu boots up i get a message saying my PNP BIOS has caused a fatal error....PNP BIOS ERROR blalala        ,   now i went into bios and right now its set to let the bios, not the os, handle the plugnplay (PNP) stuff...should i let the os or the bios handle it and second how to i get rid of the PNP BIOS error at boot
[06:24] <BobaFett> thoreauputic: 'File system' etc? I dont know what that is, so I guess the answer is no... =(
[06:24] <thoreauputic> BobaFett: and fstab line (just an example) looks like:
[06:24] <thoreauputic> /dev/hda6       /mnt/debian     ext3    noauto,users,exec 0 0
[06:24] <Echylo> can somebody please not ignore this irritating talking donkey and tell me how to install schockwave for firefox?
[06:24] <blizah> heh
[06:24] <BobaFett> Oh, mine looks like this : /dev/hdd6 /windows vfat defaults 0 0
[06:25] <thoreauputic> OK
[06:25] <BobaFett> -sorta...by im quite sure im nanoing the right fstab :P-
[06:25] <ben0ne> hehe
[06:26] <thoreauputic> instead of "defaults" try  users, exec,umask=002,uid=1000,gid=1000
[06:27] <queuetue> Can I set my login program to be screen in /etc/passwd?
[06:27] <Echylo> oow shockwave only runs through wine
[06:28] <eyequeue> queuetue:  what would ^A^C invike?
[06:28] <ben0ne> BobaFett, did it ?
[06:28] <BobaFett> thoreauputic: uhh...ok...lets try
[06:28] <blizah> in addition to my question above..where can i edit what programs start at boot (i use gimp once to edit a file and now it starts every time i login)
[06:28] <eyequeue> invoke
[06:28] <ben0ne> BobaFett, that mounting thing...
[06:28] <BobaFett> thoreauputic: i was taking the time  to read :P
[06:28] <gustav_> Echylo: apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[06:29] <ben0ne> blizah, /etc/rc2.d/
[06:29] <eyequeue> blizah:  man update-rc.d
[06:29] <Echylo> shockwave!
[06:29] <Echylo> not flash
[06:29] <thoreauputic> BobaFett: BTW, no spaces in those options
[06:29] <blizah> k tnx
[06:29] <queuetue> eyequeue, How would I achieve what I want to do, then? (when I ssh in, "screen -d -R" starts automatically)
[06:29] <scizzo> Echylo: about:plugins in the browser
[06:30] <scizzo> Echylo: and you will have a link to a page that lets you see what is supported and so on
[06:30] <eyequeue> queuetue:  .bash_profile?
[06:30] <Echylo> ok thanks :)
[06:30] <scaroo> humm the new Clearlook based gtk theme looks great, so does the new default background, cheers dudes !
[06:30] <Echylo> great eh
[06:30] <Echylo> got it too
[06:30] <Echylo> olive skin
[06:30] <grimborg_> hi
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> hello
[06:30] <scaroo> Echylo, Human theme is also using Clearlook gtk engine
[06:31] <thoreauputic> queuetue: jst make an alias for that command using ssh ( like ssh screen -d -R)
[06:31] <scaroo> and it looks cool
[06:31] <eyequeue> queuetue:  .bash_profile vs .basrc, and utilize whether the default "login shell" status is on or off in .screenrc
[06:31] <ben0ne> hum... theres a ubuntu(deb) packages of gnome2.10 ?
[06:31] <scizzo> ben0ne: in hoary
[06:31] <jdub> ben0ne: of course, all in hoary
[06:31] <thoreauputic> an alias is *way* simpler
[06:31] <Echylo> I mean :) clearlook - olive
[06:31] <jdub> ben0ne: the preview will be released very soon
[06:31] <ben0ne> scizzo, oohhhhh i need hoary after all
[06:31] <beleys> Hello
[06:31] <ben0ne> :)
[06:31] <BobaFett> thoreauputic: Ok, done, no spaces. but...umm...how do I exit nano saving changes?
[06:31] <scizzo> ben0ne: that depends...if someone is doing a backport to warty
[06:31] <ben0ne> damm
[06:31] <thoreauputic> ctrl-x
[06:31] <GNAM> when KDE in ubuntu? (not a real problem)
[06:32] <jdub> GNAM: it's there already
[06:32] <thoreauputic> will prompt you
[06:32] <GNAM> yes.
[06:32] <jdub> GNAM: plus, there's Kubuntu
[06:32] <grimborg_> i've installed ubuntu and put the root in a lvm volume. i've created the initrd that will load the lvm modules (using lvmcreate_initrd) but after loading kernel & initrd kernel still panicks about not being able to mount root
[06:32] <scizzo> GNAM: /topic
[06:32] <grimborg_> any ideas?
[06:32] <eyequeue> GNAM:  see wiki for kubuntu
[06:32] <BobaFett> ctrl! thats what the little arrow upwards means! xD I always forget the same little things...
[06:32] <scizzo> GNAM: kubuntu in topic
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> I had issues installing kde the other day.. but i think it was due to some servers gettingupdated.
[06:32] <ben0ne> ok, time to get hoary
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> havent tried Kubuntu yet.
[06:32] <thoreauputic> BobaFett: haha - yeah ^x
[06:32] <ben0ne> wish me luck
[06:32] <ben0ne> :)
[06:32] <BobaFett> thoreauputic: Ok... fstab file modified :)
[06:33] <BobaFett> ben0ne: luck...i tried, but not sure if I did anything xD
[06:33] <GNAM> hoary rulez ben0ne
[06:33] <BobaFett> thoreauputic: Ok, now should I try weiting, right?
[06:33] <Madeye> is it correct spelling "suits your needs" correct?
[06:33] <thoreauputic> BobaFett: so see if it's writable  eg "touch /windows/foo.txt
[06:34] <dmoyne> can somebody tell me how to set numlock at boot ? ; thanks
[06:34] <BobaFett> Permission denied =(
[06:34] <zim> hi room where can i download hordie 64bit version
[06:34] <thoreauputic> hmm
[06:34] <beleys> I'm sorry, i have juse a little question, I wan't install the last ubuntu version in a old computer, on this computer, i have only 32 Mo of ram, my question is, it's possible or not ?
[06:34] <scizzo> zim: hordie?
[06:35] <zim> sorry
[06:35] <ben0ne> BobaFett, try: chmod a+rw /dev/hdd6
[06:35] <zim> yes
[06:35] <BobaFett> beleys: try the Live CD first, system requirements are on the back
[06:35] <scizzo> zim: you mean hoary?
[06:35] <blizah> k im in /etc/rc2.d/  but dont see how i change my list of start up programs..guess here is where i apologize for being a n00b :D
[06:35] <zim> yes yes that
[06:35] <scizzo> zim: it aint stable release yet
[06:35] <ben0ne> BobaFett, then chown -R your_user_name /windows
[06:35] <eyequeue> blizah:  read that man page
[06:35] <beleys> BobaFett: Thanks
[06:35] <ben0ne> BobaFett, the verify your fstab
[06:35] <scizzo> zim: but array6 download pages are listed in topic
[06:35] <zim> i know
[06:35] <BobaFett> ben0ne: I tried chmodding, but never could remember the right syntax *blush* lets try! :)
[06:35] <ben0ne> BobaFett, thes umount and mount again
[06:35] <SiRrUs> zim take a look at the channel topic
[06:35] <eyequeue> blizah:  man update-rc.d
[06:35] <scizzo> zim: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/hoary/array-6/
[06:36] <BobaFett> ben0ne: roger ... lets see what this does ...
[06:36] <zim> ty
[06:36] <blizah> eyequeue whats that do
[06:36] <eyequeue> blizah:  it educates you how
[06:36] <blizah> ah
[06:36] <blizah> oh yea
[06:36] <ben0ne> good luck, my hoary is on the way
[06:36] <ben0ne> :)
[06:36] <eyequeue> man (1)              - an interface to the on-line reference manuals
[06:36] <eyequeue> man (7)              - macros to format man pages
[06:37] <BobaFett> ben0ne: chmod: operation not permitted :(
[06:37] <ben0ne> 545mb of files to download
[06:37] <ben0ne> BobaFett, try it as root
[06:37] <BobaFett> ben0ne: oh wait...root!
[06:37] <membreya> so anyone here played around with kubuntu?
[06:37] <ben0ne> BobaFett, sudo blablabla
[06:38] <ben0ne> BobaFett, i recommend you to leave a terminal with root prompt ready for these things
[06:38] <ben0ne> BobaFett, sudo -s
[06:38] <eruin> anyone know where I can find locale names ala "en_GB" ?
[06:38] <eruin> I need to figure out whether nb_no or no_nb is correct for norwegian bokml ;>
[06:38] <BobaFett> ben0ne: ok, hdd6 resetted to defaults 0 0
[06:38] <eyequeue> eruin:  i think it's language_variant
[06:38] <ben0ne> BobaFett, WHAT ?
[06:39] <ben0ne> hdd6 resetted ?
[06:39] <BobaFett> ben0ne: i did the chmod thingie on hdd6 and now in fstab it shows as defaults 0 0
[06:39] <ben0ne> ohhh
[06:39] <ben0ne> fstab ?
[06:39] <ben0ne> ok
[06:39] <BobaFett> ben0ne: yesssss haha no, not THAT reset =P
[06:39] <ben0ne> go and change defaults to umask=0000
[06:39] <BobaFett> ben0ne: okie!
[06:39] <eruin> eyequeue: yeah I think so too, but everyone else seems to do it the other way around
[06:39] <scizzo> time to go home.. :P
[06:40] <scizzo> later all
[06:40] <ben0ne> scizzo, c ya
[06:40] <GNAM> how can I erase apt-get cache? packet downloaded and already installed?
[06:40] <eyequeue> eruin:  not canonical, but google:  i found this http://foo-projects.org/pipermail/xfce-i18n/2004-December/000269.html
[06:40] <thoreauputic> GNAM: sudo apt-get clean
[06:41] <thoreauputic> eruin: http://www.i18nguy.com/locales/locale-resources.html  ?
[06:42] <ben0ne> hum...
[06:42] <eyequeue> eruin:  oh helll, i also found this http://www.debian.org/intl/l10n/po/nb_NO
[06:42] <ben0ne> # getting quiet
[06:42] <ben0ne> time to go to kitchen
[06:42] <ben0ne> get something to drink
[06:42] <hatt_> anybody out there who can tell me when hoary hedgehog will be released?
[06:43] <thoreauputic> april
[06:43] <hatt_> thanks
[06:43] <ben0ne> hatt_, yeah, but u can get it allready
[06:43] <BobaFett> ben0ne:  OHH crap, I fanally got it all done right and now it says 'device busy'! no fairrr
[06:43] <blizah> eyequeue it seems like this command is more for before you login..doesnt control the programs that run after you have logged tell...tell me if im wrong
[06:43] <ben0ne> :)
[06:43] <ben0ne> BobaFett,  busy uh...
[06:43] <hatt_> a preview, or a taste of a final version?
[06:44] <Fator_Dee> stable
[06:44] <ben0ne> BobaFett, type: mount
[06:44] <thoreauputic> BobaFett: since there's nothing in it, do umount -l /windows
[06:44] <thoreauputic> that's "lazy umount"
[06:44] <scaroo> is the current hoary kernel (2.6.10-4) inotify enabled ?
[06:44] <eruin> eyequeue: and then you have en_GB
[06:44] <ben0ne> dunno
[06:44] <eruin> :P
[06:44] <hatt_> i didn't find a stable version of hoary on the mirrors ...
[06:44] <eyequeue> blizah:  maybe a re-read, now that you've read it once, will be clearer :)  anyway, you write a file, then run that command ... that creates the links to make what you want happen at boot.  completely unrelated to whether someone logs in at all.  that what you want?
[06:45] <ben0ne> iam upgrading to hoary right now
[06:45] <eruin> this whole locales scheme reeks of inconsistency
[06:45] <SiRrUs> hatt_ hoary isnt considered stable yet
[06:45] <eruin> SiRrUs: by alot of people it is :P
[06:45] <SiRrUs> works good for me tho
[06:45] <ben0ne> soon ill be able to answer all questions about it :P
[06:45] <eyequeue> eruin:  yeah, there needs to be some canonical set of rules on this somewhere, i just don't know where to look
[06:45] <SiRrUs> eruin yeah my friend I know that
[06:46] <eruin> SiRrUs: sorry, didn't see what hatt said :P
[06:46] <eyequeue> hatt_:  "stable" and "development" don't go together
[06:46] <hatt_> o.k., i need a stable version, because i need it for a book DVD
[06:46] <BobaFett> ben0ne: Ok, unmounted and mounted /windows again, but I still cant get write access...
[06:46] <eyequeue> hatt_:  hoary will be stable in april, today it is still development
[06:46] <jdub> today is preview day!
[06:46] <eyequeue> hatt_:  today, warty is stable
[06:46] <hatt_> i've just finished a book "linux livesystems" in germany
[06:46] <blizah> eyequeue so it does deal with if xchat, or gimp, or firefox opens up after you have loged on  (rereading :D
[06:46] <scaroo> BobaFett, is it a ntfs partition ?
[06:46] <eruin> humm...
[06:46] <SiRrUs> jdub when will that happen
[06:46] <BobaFett> nopes, scaroo, fat
[06:47] <eruin> my locale in ubuntu seems to be supported less and less
[06:47] <jdub> SiRrUs: today
[06:47] <jdub> soon
[06:47] <blizah> jdub were you playing cs last night?
[06:47] <eyequeue> blizah:  okay, it appears you're looking for something completely different.  let me explain the two concepts
[06:47] <jdub> cs?
[06:47] <blizah> cause i saw somebody with that same name
[06:47] <blizah> weird...
[06:47] <SiRrUs> nice will it be posted in the channel topic
[06:47] <scaroo> BobaFett, try "mount /dev/... /mnt/... -o rw,user,umask=000
[06:47] <jdub> SiRrUs: of course, we're not going to hide it.
[06:47] <SiRrUs> :)
[06:48] <jdub> blizah: big world out there.
[06:48] <eruin> only things showing in my locale now are the gnome submenus, while xchat is a horrible mix of danish, english and swedish (funny enough, not a sight of my actual locale)
[06:48] <SiRrUs> looking forward to it
[06:48] <blizah> eyequeue ah ok i was right its only for the proccess you computer goes through AT boot...not the programs that start up when youve logged on
[06:48] <eyequeue> blizah:  rc.d --- things that run on boot, like say firewall protection, or a webserver daemon
[06:48] <BobaFett> scaroo: Ok, lets see whhat happens :)
[06:48] <jdub> eruin: do you have the language packages installed for your locale?
[06:48] <blizah> eyequeue yea thats why i posted that msg above   "<blizah> eyequeue it seems like this command is more for before you login..doesnt control the programs that run after you have logged tell...tell me if im wrong"
[06:48] <ben0ne> ohh well
[06:49] <eyequeue> blizah:  what you appear to be looking for is "what happens when my user logs in" which can be changed by editing "~/.bash_profile" for example, if you want to do it on a per-user basis
[06:49] <blizah> k tnx eyequeeu
[06:49] <ben0ne> BobaFett, sorry, was on the phone
[06:49] <eyequeue> blizah:  i thought you wanted on-boot :)
[06:49] <ben0ne> BobaFett, did it ?
[06:49] <BobaFett> ben0ne: dont worry..I got the damn permissions!!!!!!!!
[06:50] <ben0ne> BobaFett, :)
[06:50] <eruin> jdub: yes
[06:50] <eruin> jdub: and only my locale. utf8.
[06:50] <scaroo> so, nobody has clue about the inotify statut in current ubuntu kernel ?
[06:50] <BobaFett> i used mount /dev/hdd6 -o rw,user,umask=000 :D :D
[06:50] <BobaFett> Thanks a bunch, scaroo! :)
[06:51] <ben0ne> hum...
[06:51] <scaroo> BobaFett, no problem dude
[06:51] <ben0ne> what about the fstab ?
[06:52] <BobaFett> fstab looks fine, ben0ne...it says:
[06:52] <eruin> jdub: any ideas on what could be causing what seems to be a less complete locale by the day? :P
[06:53] <BobaFett> dev/hdd6 fat defaults 0 0
[06:53] <ben0ne> BobaFett, as i said before, change dafaults to umask=0000
[06:53] <ben0ne> BobaFett, one more thing...
[06:54] <BobaFett> yes?
[06:54] <ben0ne> BobaFett, when u have a file on fstab specifing amount point, u dont need to issue the command: mount /device /mout_poit
[06:55] <ben0ne> BobaFett, just ; mount /mount_point
[06:55] <will> BobaFett: do you have fat32 on that drive (hdd6)
[06:55] <BobaFett> will: yes, fat32
[06:55] <ben0ne> BobaFett, that way, it reads the options (umask=0000) from fstab
[06:55] <will>  BobaFett: if so you need VFAT not fat
[06:55] <eyequeue> hmmm, perl is upgrading
[06:55] <ben0ne> BobaFett, otherwise the options will be ignored
[06:55] <BobaFett> ben0ne: OHHHH...maybe thats why I had all those issues, I kept mounting /dev/hdd6...
[06:55] <Tuxadermist> anyone know of a xmms skin that matches well with the Ubuntu look and feel ?
[06:56] <crypticreign> Tuxadermist: i think there is a Human theme
[06:56] <ben0ne> BobaFett, that what i just thought
[06:56] <scaroo> Tuxadermist, rhythmbox :D
[06:56] <crypticreign> Tuxadermist: yo should use beep-media-player (in universe) its a nicer gtk-2 version of xmms
[06:56] <grimborg_> is there any howto on getting ubuntu to work with the root partition in a lvm? i've been searching google, ubuntu forums, manpages,etc. and haven't come up with a working solution yet...
[06:57] <BobaFett> ben0ne: no, it looks like that wasnt it...i changed umask, and tried to mount in a non-root terminal, couldnt do it
[06:57] <Tuxadermist> how does beep worth with streatuner ?
[06:57] <Tuxadermist> stream tuner rather
[06:57] <scaroo> speaking of xmms, why the heck is mplayer package depending on it ??
[06:57] <ben0ne> BobaFett, ok, if u say so... :)
[06:58] <BobaFett> ben0ne: you sound like I did something wrong, which very probably I did :)
[06:58] <ben0ne> BobaFett, probably :)
[06:58] <BobaFett> ben0ne: Oh well, Ill keep researching those damn mount and unmount things...
[06:58] <BobaFett> ben0ne: Thanks for all the help, man, appreciate it :)
[06:59] <will> BobaFett: /dev/hdd6	/mnt/(your mount place)		vfat	umask=000	0	0
[06:59] <ben0ne> BobaFett, no problem, thats what iam here for
[07:00] <ben0ne> hehe
[07:00] <ells> yaaar: ya there
[07:00] <ben0ne> ubuntu dev team...
[07:01] <ben0ne> er...
[07:01] <Loiosh> Hiya guys, got a minor question
[07:01] <ben0ne> gnome2.10
[07:01] <ben0ne> hoary
[07:02] <ben0ne> they should put enlightenment as optional wm
[07:02] <ben0ne> e17
[07:02] <scaroo> e17 is still in its infantry
[07:02] <ells> anyone know why my dvd drive is not recognized in wine. I can copy to it all day in nautilus
[07:02] <rubenv> e17 is highly unstable
[07:02] <ben0ne> scaroo, yes,
[07:02] <scaroo> and useless
[07:02] <joaquinz> hey... hi everyone... i need some help
[07:02] <thoreauputic> scaroo: as opposed to its cavalry? *g*
[07:03] <ben0ne> rubenv, yes, but is usable
[07:03] <scaroo> but so cute !
[07:03] <BobaFett> Ok, guys, I set up a disk mounter on the topbar, and set it to mount /windows...but, obviously, it doesnt have root and therefore cant mount it (just great, huh? :P)...how can I give it root access? I tried entering the 'sudo' syntax, but apparently I cant input commands in those kinda things :(
[07:03] <joaquinz> ubuntu doesnt detects my cd/dvd reader
[07:03] <ben0ne> scaroo, veeery cute
[07:03] <ben0ne> iam using right now
[07:03] <ben0ne> as main wm
[07:03] <joaquinz> i've a SATA disk (sda) and a cd burner(hdb) and the cd/dvd reader(hda) doesnt exist in /dev/
[07:03] <eyequeue> BobaFett:  preface the command with gksudo
[07:03] <ben0ne> for ubuntu it would be a secundary optional wm
[07:03] <ben0ne> :)
[07:03] <joaquinz> and i cant mount it...
[07:04] <joaquinz> what could the problem be?
[07:04] <BobaFett> eyequeue: I cant edit the mounter's commands...at least not in 'properties'
[07:04] <joaquinz> ?
[07:04] <ben0ne> joaquinz, ?
[07:05] <ben0ne> joaquinz, tell your problems :)
[07:05] <eyequeue> BobaFett:  mounter?  in the launcher object, you entered some command, right?
[07:05] <ben0ne> joaquinz, open yourself to me
[07:05] <joaquinz> ben0ne: i've done it :S
[07:05] <scaroo> thoreauputic, lol my english is so baad :P
[07:05] <ben0ne> joaquinz, hum...
[07:05] <ben0ne> joaquinz, sorry, i miss that, let me see
[07:05] <joaquinz> ben0ne: again,  i've a SATA disk (sda) and a cd burner(hdb) and the cd/dvd reader(hda) doesnt exist in /dev/
[07:05] <eyequeue> BobaFett:  fourth item down under "basic" should be "command:"
[07:05] <joaquinz> so i cant mount it
[07:05] <ben0ne> ohhh
[07:05] <ben0ne> joaquinz, try /dev/sr0
[07:06] <ben0ne> joaquinz, or /dev/sg0
[07:06] <thoreauputic> scaroo: heh - it's OK - I thought "infantry" was kind of amusing , that's all ;)
[07:06] <ben0ne> joaquinz, dont remember
[07:06] <ben0ne> :)
[07:06] <ben0ne> take a look on /var/log/message
[07:06] <joaquinz> no... both, sr0 and sg0 doesnt exist
[07:06] <thoreauputic> scaroo: I knew what you meant :)
[07:06] <ben0ne> type dmesg
[07:07] <joaquinz> dmesg | grep what :P ?
[07:07] <joaquinz> what am i looking for?
[07:07] <ben0ne> joaquinz, dmegs | grep /dev/your_dvd
[07:07] <scaroo> thoreauputic, and wht would be the right world ? like the youth ... ?
[07:07] <scaroo> *word
[07:07] <joaquinz> cdrom: open failed
[07:07] <joaquinz> mmmm
[07:07] <thoreauputic> scaroo: infancy
[07:07] <BobaFett> eyequeue: theres only 'preferences', where I can change the mounted dir...but thats it :(
[07:08] <scaroo> thoreauputic, ok thx you
[07:08] <BobaFett> eyequeue: I guess it'll just have to be a launcher...no sweat
[07:08] <eyequeue> BobaFett:  where are you finding this?
[07:08] <thoreauputic> scaroo: :) You're welcome
[07:08] <ben0ne> joaquinz, wait
[07:08] <eyequeue> BobaFett: right, whatever you are running, do it via a launcher
[07:08] <ben0ne> joaquinz, ok, your dvd is hd?
[07:08] <neighborlee> just curious.what changed in hoary such that kernel 2.6.8.1 no longer boots ( gives kernel panic ) ?? ;-)))
[07:09] <joaquinz> hda
[07:09] <ben0ne> hda ???
[07:09] <joaquinz> yeah
[07:09] <joaquinz> because i've a sata disk
[07:09] <joaquinz> so
[07:09] <ben0ne> ohh, ok, u have a sata hd
[07:09] <ben0ne> :)
[07:09] <BobaFett> eyequeue: Yep...its way saner and easier :)
[07:09] <ben0ne> np
[07:09] <ben0ne> well
[07:09] <eyequeue> :)
[07:09] <joaquinz> ahhh ok ok :) thx u
[07:10] <blizah> eyequeue another way to change it is computer->desktop preferences->session
[07:10] <ben0ne> joaquinz, dmesg | grep hda
[07:10] <blizah> (i think)
[07:10] <joaquinz> ben0ne : nothing...
[07:10] <ben0ne> joaquinz, are u portuguese ?
[07:10] <eyequeue> blizah:  that may perhaps only be for gui sessions
[07:11] <joaquinz> ben0ne : im argentinian... i speak spanish :P
[07:11] <BobaFett> Thanks for everything guys, Ill go play with my new mounted hdd now :)
[07:11] <ben0ne> hum...
[07:11] <Cripp> Can Anyone help with Live cd Ubuntu
[07:11] <ben0ne> BobaFett, have fun
[07:11] <BobaFett> joaquinz: Lenny Kravitz la proxima semana en Argentina! anda a verlo! :)
[07:11] <joaquinz> BobaFett : mucha money :P
[07:11] <BobaFett> joaquinz: Hes worth it! :)
[07:12] <joaquinz> BobaFett : i dont like him so much :P
[07:12] <crypticreign> hmm
[07:12] <crypticreign> bash doesnt remember any history
[07:12] <crypticreign> arrow-up gets nothing
[07:12] <ben0ne> :|
[07:13] <joaquinz> ben0ne: :S it is a very strange problem dont u think so?
[07:13] <BobaFett> joaquinz: awww how can you not like Are you gonna go my way?? :P
[07:13] <thoreauputic> crypticreign: do you have a ~/.bash_history file?
[07:13] <ben0ne> joaquinz, if u dont have any line on dmesg regarding to hda, then your system didnt reconize it
[07:13] <vijub> crypticreign: export HISTSIZE=n
[07:13] <ben0ne> joaquinz, take a look in your BIOS
[07:14] <joaquinz> ben0ne : ok
[07:14] <Cripp> Anyone know why when I boot with Live cd Ubuntu All I get is a black screen
[07:14] <BobaFett> Cripp: Try changing the videocard
[07:14] <ben0ne> hehehe
[07:14] <ben0ne> u r using framebuffer ?
[07:14] <crypticreign> vijub: thanks, what does that do?
[07:14] <BobaFett> dont laugh...thats what happened to me :)
[07:14] <joaquinz> BobaFett: i dont know.. i like a lot more classic rock music such as Pink Floyd and the beatles ... he's not my style :P
[07:14] <ben0ne> i mean, ubuntu live uses framebuffer ?
[07:14] <eyequeue> thoreauputic:  hmm, should user .bash_history be chown root:root?  weird
[07:14] <thoreauputic> or plugiging the monitor in...
[07:15] <vijub> remembers n previous commands
[07:15] <ells> yaaar, you there
[07:15] <thoreauputic> eyequeue: no, i don't think so ;)
[07:15] <BobaFett> joaquinz: Then you absolutely must go see Roger Waters when he plays here ;)
[07:15] <eyequeue> thoreauputic:  that has to be why i've got the same problem he has
[07:15] <Cripp> Bob Card is onboard
[07:15] <eyequeue> crypticreign:  ls -l ~/.bash_history
[07:15] <crypticreign> :)
[07:15] <thoreauputic> sudo chown user:user .bash_history
[07:16] <ells> anyone familiar with dvdshrink
[07:16] <qopi> btw, ubuntu has been getting lots of free promotion on the Creative Forum list lately :)
[07:16] <crypticreign> eyequeue: :) neat
[07:16] <thoreauputic> substitute your user name, obviously
[07:16] <eyequeue> crypticreign:  i'll need to change mine as well, but i do wonder why this happened
[07:16] <qopi> http://www.europeancreativeforum.org http://lists.riseup.net/www/info/creativeforum
[07:17] <ells> anyone familiar with dvdshrink
[07:17] <crypticreign> eyequeue: indeed, thanks again
[07:17] <eyequeue> crypticreign:  no prob
[07:18] <joaquinz> BobaFett : where u from?
[07:18] <BobaFett> joaquinz: Chile...somos vecinos :)
[07:18] <eyequeue> other users don't have that problem, just the primary user, odd
[07:18] <potsed> hi all, i mounted a drive with this command, mount -t vfat /dev/hdb3 /mnt/hdd/winDdrive which mounts fine, but folders are showing as unknown type... any ideas why? thx 8(
[07:18] <eyequeue> could be a bug in the initial setup scripts?
[07:18] <joaquinz> BobaFett : ahhhh jajaaj ok
[07:18] <joaquinz> i'll be back soon
[07:18] <ben0ne> hoary 20%
[07:18] <ben0ne> :)
[07:19] <BobaFett> Ok, see ya guys...thx for all! :)
[07:19] <WeirdAl> wyrd wp
[07:19] <[FiDO] > when the new version of gnome officially comes out it should be added to the ubuntu update manager right??
[07:20] <eyequeue> [FiDO] :  in the development version, not the stable version
[07:20] <ben0ne> [FiDO] , get hoary
[07:20] <[FiDO] > I have it
[07:20] <WeirdAl> There's a confing-and-command-line based FTP server called p...ftpd and I can't remember what it is -(
[07:20] <ben0ne> [FiDO] , have gnome2.10 ?
[07:20] <WeirdAl> Anyone?
[07:20] <[FiDO] > yeah
[07:20] <eyequeue> WeirdAl:  pro?
[07:20] <yaaar> WeirdAl: proftpd
[07:20] <WeirdAl> \o/
[07:20] <[FiDO] > but you can't edit the menus apparently until it is officially released
[07:21] <ben0ne> NOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooo
[07:21] <WeirdAl> Damn, if my AIM contacts were as fast as you guys I'd never have joined. Cheers.
[07:21] <ben0ne> hehehe
[07:21] <[FiDO] > according to their website it's supposed to be officially released today
[07:21] <[FiDO] > that's why I was asking
[07:21] <ben0ne> today ?
[07:21] <potsed> anyone?
[07:21] <ben0ne> uh-huuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
[07:21] <[FiDO] > it said March 9th
[07:21] <LeEspionage> anyone seen my shoes
[07:21] <LeEspionage> anyone
[07:21] <ben0ne> is today allright
[07:22] <ben0ne> LeEspionage, how they look ?
[07:22] <[FiDO] > I just want to be able to change the menu
[07:22] <thoreauputic> LeEspionage: pull your tummy in ;)
[07:22] <[FiDO] > apparently the offical version comes with a new menu editor
[07:22] <ben0ne> [FiDO] , hum... theres no file to edit ?
[07:22] <[FiDO] > that's why they have menu editing locked right now
[07:22] <ben0ne> must have something in .gnome
[07:22] <ben0ne> .gome2
[07:22] <yaaar> LeEspionage: yeah, I think they were hanging by their laces from a power line...
[07:22] <[FiDO] > yeah but they don't want ppl doing that
[07:22] <ben0ne> .gtk
[07:22] <ben0ne> whatever
[07:22] <[FiDO] > that's why they locked it
[07:23] <ben0ne> locked ?
[07:23] <ben0ne> how ?
[07:23] <ben0ne> permission thing ?
[07:23] <eyequeue> uniformity in bug reports perhaps?
[07:23] <[FiDO] > if you go in nautilus and type applications:/// like you would normally it won't work
[07:23] <ells> yaaar: you still there
[07:23] <eyequeue> considering you're supposed to be testers not users, heh
[07:24] <yaaar> ells yep
[07:24] <yaaar> or, rather, back
[07:24] <[FiDO] > I'm sure you can still do it the old fashioned way
[07:24] <ben0ne> hehe
[07:24] <ben0ne> u cant depend on graphic interface to do things
[07:24] <dayz> can anybody help me? i have a fresh install and my network card will not activate...
[07:24] <ben0ne> open a prompt and start editing files
[07:24] <eyequeue> commandline all the way baby, huh?
[07:24] <ben0ne> sure
[07:25] <homer[] > when i run apt-cache search mplayer.. i can't see mplayer
[07:25] <lizdeika> if you install totem-xine, ubuntu-desktop is removed. what bad things can haapen without ubuntu-dekstop ?
[07:25] <ben0ne> dayz, ifconfig device up
[07:25] <homer[] > i'm using the default repositories from the internet
[07:25] <eyequeue> homer[] :  see the wiki, you have to add a repository
[07:25] <ben0ne> dayz, device = ethX
[07:25] <dayz> ben0ne: i have tried all that
[07:25] <homer[] > eyequeue, okei, i will
[07:25] <eyequeue> homer[] :  that's not part of ubuntu proper
[07:25] <ben0ne> dayz, the modules is loaded ?
[07:25] <thoreauputic> homer[] : or read http://ubuntuguide.org
[07:25] <dayz> rumaged around the forums and stuff
[07:26] <dayz> how do i check that?
[07:26] <ben0ne> dayz, lsmod
[07:26] <thoreauputic> dayz: lsmod
[07:26] <membreya> damn thunderbird, not letting me install a language locale!
[07:27] <dayz> what am i looking for in lsmod?
[07:27] <thoreauputic> lizdeika: ubuntu-desktop is a dummy package
[07:27] <ben0ne> dayz, eth?
[07:27] <thoreauputic> lizdeika: nothing bad will happen
[07:27] <ben0ne> dayz, whats your nic chipset ?
[07:27] <ben0ne> realtek ?
[07:27] <dayz> its not loaded
[07:27] <ben0ne> usr ?
[07:27] <dayz> its amdtek i think
[07:28] <ben0ne> amdtek ?
[07:28] <ben0ne> hum....
[07:28] <membreya> realtek?
[07:28] <dayz> accton
[07:28] <dayz> EN-1216
[07:28] <ben0ne> accton ?
[07:28] <ben0ne> chipset ?
[07:28] <homer[] > thoreauputic, that page will help me very much
[07:28] <homer[] > thank you
[07:29] <ben0ne> chippppppppppp
[07:29] <ben0ne> ...set
[07:29] <ben0ne> :)
[07:29] <thoreauputic> homer[] : yeah, it's a one-stop shop :)
[07:29] <Cripp> Will ubunta except Mozilla suite ?
[07:29] <dmoyne> How to set numlock at boot ? thanks
[07:29] <ben0ne> well, anyways, have sure that your nic is supported on linux
[07:29] <dayz> ben0ne: checking to see what i can find... it's an old cel lappy
[07:29] <TWM> if ubuntu-desktop doesn't do anything, why is it there?
[07:29] <ben0ne> ...
[07:29] <ben0ne> dayz, type: lspci
[07:30] <thoreauputic> TWM: it pulls in a whole buch of dependencies
[07:30] <dayz> via chipset
[07:30] <ben0ne> lspci | grep Network
[07:30] <thoreauputic> TWM: so it does something on install
[07:30] <TWM> thoreauputic: ah right
[07:30] <membreya> thoreauputic: rather than dummy..why not say "meta" package :P
[07:30] <eyequeue> dmoyne:  is waw that setting in a bois once, thought it was the most bizarre thing imaginable, but have you checked yours?
[07:30] <dayz> lspci|grep network tells me nothing
[07:30] <ben0ne> or lspci | grep Ethernet
[07:31] <eyequeue> s/is waw/i saw/
[07:31] <woodwizzle> Does the hoary beta have all the final stable released versions of all the gnome packages yet?
[07:31] <ben0ne> grep is case sensitive
[07:31] <eyequeue> bios
[07:31] <thoreauputic> membreya: because most people know what "dummy" means, but "meta" is geek speak ?
[07:31] <dayz> it tells me i have an accton EN-1216 card
[07:31] <ben0ne> so Network <> netowork
[07:31] <membreya> good point :P
[07:31] <ben0ne> hehe
[07:31] <ben0ne> network
[07:31] <marksbry> heya..anyone know of good streaming audio software? I tried using edna in ubuntu but keep getting python errors
[07:31] <eyequeue> thoreauputic:  dummy is the user, and meta is dinner misspelled? :)
[07:31] <ben0ne> en-1216
[07:32] <Cripp> I am formatting a old pc to try out Ubuntu . Kinda new to linux any tips ?
[07:32] <thoreauputic> eyequeue: heh - PEBKAC
[07:32] <dayz> yep, that's the one
[07:32] <eyequeue> i'm vegetarian anyway btw heh
[07:32] <woodwizzle> Cripp: how old are we talking here?
[07:32] <ben0ne> dayz, ok... wait
[07:32] <dayz> :)
[07:32] <ben0ne> dayz, iam asking google :)
[07:32] <woodwizzle> like what kinda specs?
[07:33] <Cripp> 2000 model compaq
[07:33] <dayz> i have also tried that with limited success
[07:33] <thoreauputic> Cripp: RAM? cpu?
[07:33] <Cripp> 256mb cpu 633
[07:33] <thoreauputic> Cripp: sounds fine
[07:33] <ben0ne> dayz, kernel ?
[07:33] <membreya> Cripp: glorified paper weight :P
[07:34] <ben0ne> dayz, version
[07:34] <Cripp> yes basicly LOl
[07:34] <woodwizzle> Cripp: Should be fine. Gnome runs nice on old hardware. It just needs a good amount of ram.
[07:34] <dayz> fresh install of warty
[07:34] <thoreauputic> Cripp: assuming your hard drive is bigger than 2Gig ;)
[07:34] <Cripp> 40 gig
[07:35] <ben0ne> dayz, type: dmesg | grep Ethernet
[07:35] <thoreauputic> Cripp: heaps of room then !
[07:35] <Cripp> Going to be fresh install yes
[07:35] <ben0ne> remember: Ethernet no ethernet
[07:35] <ben0ne> :)
[07:35] <woodwizzle> Cripp: You doing Warty or Hoary?
[07:35] <thoreauputic> Cripp: the default install takes 1.7 G
[07:35] <membreya> god I wish I could hurry up and get my 200gb SATA :(
[07:35] <jgl> anybody know if ubuntu i386 recognize internal modem?
[07:35] <Cripp> I used mandrake for a while
[07:35] <Cripp>  Warty
[07:35] <membreya> but ...going to quit work soon..gotta be careful with money :(
[07:35] <proggi> hi all
[07:35] <dayz> ben0ne: no returns
[07:36] <thoreauputic> jgl: probably not unless you are very lucky
[07:36] <ben0ne> dayz,  ok, looks like u need to get the module
[07:36] <dayz> ben0ne: but loads of returns for "eth0"
[07:36] <ben0ne> dayz, and i dont know where to find
[07:36] <ben0ne> ohhh
[07:36] <ben0ne> wait
[07:36] <thoreauputic> jgl: most likel;y to be a winmodem
[07:36] <ben0ne> dayz, eth0 ?
[07:36] <proggi> does anyone know a ssynapticserver with the gtk+-2.0 glib, pango and atk packages?
[07:36] <dayz> ben0ne:yep
[07:36] <ben0ne> dayz, paste the line
[07:36] <proggi> or gtk+-2.6
[07:36] <jgl> and how get driver for modem?
[07:36] <dayz> ben0ne: hang on  (have to manually "paste)
[07:37] <will> how do i mount a dvd to /mnt/temp
[07:37] <proggi> i want to install the gphpeditor from gphpedit.org
[07:37] <thoreauputic> jgl: if it's a winmodem, look at  linmodems.org
[07:37] <proggi> butbut i haven't the required packages
[07:37] <thoreauputic> jgl: but you may be out of luck, unless one exists
[07:37] <Cripp> Think I will hang out for a bit while I install. LOL Still at 38% format
[07:38] <proggi> sorry for my bad english
[07:38] <jgl> and how know if it's a winmodem?
[07:38] <quar|work> it tales 7 secs to join from work with irssi
[07:38] <quar|work> is there a text based instant messenger
[07:38] <jgl> which command?
[07:38] <dayz> ben0ne: my problem is exactly alike the one described here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2226
[07:38] <quar|work> how do you get another terminal through ssh?
[07:38] <dayz> ben0ne: the first post...
[07:39] <thoreauputic> jgl: it's about 95% sure to be a winmodem if it's internal
[07:39] <dayz> ben0ne: not the isa bit, obviously... :)
[07:39] <schweeb> quar|work: ssh only opens one terminal
[07:39] <schweeb> quar|work: you'd have to use screen or something
[07:39] <schweeb> or open more ssh sessions
[07:39] <quar|work> there is no way to emulate another terminal?
[07:39] <schweeb> screen
[07:39] <quar|work> how?
[07:39] <ben0ne> dayz, ok, lets see...
[07:39] <PacoBCN> hi people
[07:39] <proggi> hello
[07:39] <jgl> ok, and i'll find it in linmodems, thanks ok
[07:40] <PacoBCN> has anyone seen any howto for flumotion?
[07:40] <proggi> does anyone a server for synaptic with this packages?
[07:40] <proggi> gtk+-2.6
[07:40] <proggi> pango
[07:40] <proggi> glib
[07:40] <proggi> atk
[07:41] <schweeb> what are you trying to compile, proggi
[07:41] <PacoBCN> proggi, did you search in apt-get.org?
[07:41] <proggi> gphpedit.org
[07:41] <proggi> this editor
[07:41] <Seveas> proggi, if packages are not available from Ubuntu (not enen in main), you can check apt-get.org
[07:41] <ben0ne> dayz, pci ?
[07:41] <schweeb> all of those packages are in main
[07:41] <thoreauputic> proggi: if you are compiling, you probably need -dev packages
[07:41] <schweeb> but they're not named exactly the same
[07:41] <schweeb> and you'll need the -dev pks, like thoreauputic says
[07:42] <thoreauputic> proggi: also install build-essential
[07:42] <schweeb> like glib is probably like "liglib2.0-dev" or something
[07:42] <schweeb> etc...
[07:42] <Seveas> proggi, glib: libglib-2.0-dev
[07:42] <proggi> ok. thanks for your help. i will test it
[07:42] <ben0ne> dayz,  did as jdelo says on post 3?
[07:42] <proggi> sorry for my bad english
[07:42] <Seveas> proggi: pango: libpango-1.0-dev
[07:42] <dayz> ben0ne: yep
[07:42] <dayz> ben0ne: no results
[07:43] <woodwizzle> does yelp always crash for any other hoary users?
[07:43] <Seveas> proggi: atk: libatk-1.0-dev
[07:43] <proggi> seveas: thanks
[07:43] <Seveas> gtk+ is also somewhere
[07:43] <Seveas> try synaptics search function
[07:44] <proggi> ok. i wil do
[07:44] <Seveas> proggi: probably libgtk-2.6-dev will work for you
[07:45] <_adw_> hey, ehm, how do i change the systems default encoding from UTF-8 to unicode or ISO-8859-2?
[07:47] <thoreauputic> _adw_: possibly  sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales, but that's a guess
[07:47] <dazed_> y0 i got a problem with konqueror
[07:48] <dazed_> anyone help?
[07:48] <_adw_> thoreauputic: cheers, hm,  think thats connected to language and keys, problem is i want keys in one set, and language in a different...
[07:48] <ells> yaar, you there again
[07:48] <proggi> i already have installed gtk-2.0
[07:48] <proggi> isn't it the same like gtk+-2.0?
[07:48] <dazed_> anyone know about dcopserver?
[07:49] <Seveas> proggi, have you installed the -dev version?
[07:49] <thoreauputic> proggi: don't forget, for compiling you will need the development packages ( -dev suffix)
[07:50] <proggi> ups. you're right
[07:50] <proggi> it isn't the dev-version
[07:50] <proggi> thanks for the tip
[07:50] <dazed_> thoreauputic: hey whatsup...and do u know about dcopserver?
[07:51] <thoreauputic> proggi: problem dependencies with compiling are almost always * -dev*
[07:51] <thoreauputic> dazed_: not really - what is going wrong?
[07:52] <dazed_> well i launch konqueror and then it says some dcopserver error cant connect to something or other and at the bottom it says "check to see if 'dcopserver' is running" then i click ok and it loads konqueror but it gives me error randomly and continues to work
[07:52] <dazed_> i mean its working but a pain gettin the erroor
[07:52] <proggi> ok. i found the gtk 2.0 libs wit the dev-suffix in synaptic
[07:53] <proggi> i hope after the compiling i an install gphpedit
[07:53] <thoreauputic> dazed_:  ls -l .ICEauthority  says what?
[07:53] <proggi> an = and
[07:53] <dayz> ben0ne: find anything, or have you also given up?
[07:53] <dazed_> let me check
[07:54] <ben0ne> dayz, hehe, well, I was looking ate google et all
[07:54] <dazed_> -rw-------    1 root     root          766 2005-03-09 01:32 .ICEauthority
[07:54] <ben0ne> dayz, didnt found anything yet
[07:54] <thoreauputic> dazed_: you ran something as root
[07:54] <dazed_> right now synaptic
[07:54] <thoreauputic> dazed_: sudo rm .ICEauthority, log out, log back in
[07:54] <dazed_> im upgrading
[07:54] <Seveas> dazed_, do not run graphical stuff as root unless it is designed for it (such as synaptic)
[07:55] <dazed_> seveas: thanks for the info didnt know
[07:55] <dayz> it would suck to have to revert to windows, just because i cant get the network up... :/
[07:55] <thoreauputic> dazed_: either chown that file to your user, or delete it (deleting is easier)
[07:55] <dazed_> only time i do is when it asks for pw when running the regular app and my pw doesnt work but when i run as root it works
[07:55] <Seveas> dayz, what kind of network?
[07:56] <dayz> the ethernet
[07:56] <Seveas> dazed_, use 'sudo' for running apps as root
[07:56] <dayz> the nic
[07:56] <thoreauputic> dazed_: don't do that - use gksudo synaptic if you run it from cli
[07:56] <Seveas> and enter *your own* password
[07:56] <dazed_> seveas: yes i know
[07:56] <Seveas> dayz, I missed your problem, what exactly is it?
[07:56] <dazed_> thoreauputic: what do u mean gksudo?
[07:56] <LeEspionage> mental problems Seveas
[07:56] <spiral> hi
[07:57] <LeeColleton> Is there a way to surpress the loading of gnome-panel on login?
[07:57] <Seveas> dazed_, gksudo is a graphical frontend to sudo
[07:57] <dayz> Seveas: almost identical to the one here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2226
[07:57] <jdub> LeeColleton: remove it from your session
[07:57] <proggi> the support here is wonderful
[07:57] <dazed_> ok
[07:57] <dayz> minus the isa bit
[07:57] <dazed_> good to know
[07:58] <Seveas> dayz, so you try to activate it via the graphical stuff?
[07:58] <LeeColleton> jdub: doh... thanks.  That's nice and simple
[07:58] <dayz> Seveas: yep, and through the cli
[07:59] <Seveas> ah ok, so you know at least some shell commands?
[07:59] <dayz> Seveas: yep.. not my first linux install
[07:59] <Seveas> :)
[07:59] <ben0ne> hum...
[07:59] <ben0ne> ubuntu ubuntu
[07:59] <ben0ne> buntu buntu
[08:00] <missmarpl1> huh?
[08:00] <dayz> i might just have to try some other distro to see if they can run the nic
[08:00] <Seveas> dayz, check your private chat...
[08:01] <ben0ne> dayz, no need to do that
[08:01] <ben0ne> dayz, we will help you
[08:01] <dazed_> ok thoreauputic that worked with the konqueror
[08:01] <ben0ne> dayz, do not fear lad...
[08:01] <ben0ne> :)
[08:01] <dayz> :D
[08:01] <dazed_> but could u also tell me why when i try running apps from my menu that require my password i type my exact password and it does not accept it?
[08:01] <thoreauputic> dazed_: yeah, I'm not surprised
[08:02] <dazed_> lol
[08:02] <thoreauputic> dazed_: which apps?
[08:02] <dazed_> certain ones like network admin and synaptic
[08:02] <dazed_> i am on fluxbox not gnome
[08:02] <dazed_> well gdm but not gnome desktop
[08:02] <qopi> dazed_: you prob need to enter root pswd
[08:02] <qopi> not standard one
[08:02] <dazed_> i only set up one password
[08:03] <qopi> hmz
[08:03] <dazed_> how do i set up root password?
[08:03] <thoreauputic> synaptic should work with your user password, if you are the first user ( uid=1000)
[08:03] <dazed_> im only user
[08:03] <Myrtti> then use your password
[08:03] <thoreauputic> dazed_: you might need to edit the fluxbox menu to include gksudo instead of gksu
[08:03] <Myrtti> you're a user with sudo rights
[08:04] <dazed_> let me check it out
[08:04] <thoreauputic> dazed_: possibly flux is expecting a root pass (gksu)
[08:04] <thoreauputic> dazed_: probably ~/.fluxbox/menu
[08:05] <dazed_> thoreauputic: this is the initial command
[08:05] <dazed_> su-to-root
[08:05] <dazed_> should i change to gksudo?
[08:05] <mirak> Does seagate is a good Hard Drive brand ?
[08:05] <thoreauputic> yes
[08:05] <thoreauputic> dazed_: ^^
[08:05] <HiddenWolf> mirak: seagate is the world's biggest manufacturer of hdd's
[08:05] <mirak> ok
[08:06] <thoreauputic> dazed_: like `gksudo synaptic`
[08:06] <mirak> HiddenWolf: I feel that my hitachi is going to die
[08:06] <ben0ne> HiddenWolf, hey
[08:06] <neom> Where is teh boot log that shows the logs of boot errors?
[08:06] <Seveas> neom /var/log/kern.log
[08:06] <neom> ty
[08:06] <Seveas> or simply dmesg
[08:06] <thoreauputic> dazed_: check ~/.fluxbox/init  to make sure it is reading the menu from ~/.fluxbox , as well
[08:06] <LeeColleton> when I send a message in Evolution, the gpg password dialog doesn't pop up over the other windows.  Is there a way to make it "always on top"?
[08:07] <Simira> is anyone from Ubuntu going to "The gathering", in Norway in the Easter?
[08:08] <binks> can someoe help me with atidrivers in hoary
[08:08] <dazed_> thoreauputic: yes it is and the synaptic wont launch now
[08:08] <LordC> What do you guys use to burn CDRs?
[08:08] <binks> i have installed fglrx but fglrxinfo still shows mesa
[08:08] <thoreauputic> dazed_: what command did you enter in the menu?
[08:08] <LordC> graveman keeps failing - so many coasters :@
[08:09] <dazed_> one sec
[08:09] <dazed_> /usr/sbin/gksudo -X -c /usr/sbin/synaptic
[08:09] <binks> i have edited the xorgconf and still i get mesa
[08:09] <binks> anyone
[08:10] <binks> fglrxconfig outputs to xf86free
[08:10] <thoreauputic> dazed_: try just  gksudo synaptic
[08:10] <dazed_> ok
[08:11] <ben0ne> dayz, hows going?
[08:11] <dazed_> k thats good
[08:11] <thoreauputic> works?
[08:11] <dazed_> but still the network-admin asks for pw and it denies my pww
[08:11] <dazed_> the only pw i set up
[08:11] <LinuxJones> My keyboard won't repeat characters if I hold down a key ???
[08:11] <thoreauputic> dazed_: check the menu entry and try the same synatx
[08:12] <eyequeue> wwwwwwwwwwhhhhhhhhhhhyyyyyyyyyy not?
[08:12] <thoreauputic> *synatax
[08:12] <thoreauputic> bah
[08:12] <thoreauputic> syntax
[08:12] <dazed_> now it doesnt even ask for pw
[08:12] <dazed_> lkol
[08:12] <dazed_> ok
[08:12] <dazed_> ill just do that to all of em
[08:12] <dazed_> thanks
[08:12] <dayz> ben0ne: great. getting help from Seveas in privmsg
[08:13] <eyequeue> dazed_:  i think [gk] sudo defaults to a five minute timeout
[08:13] <LinuxJones> eyequeue, I wish I knew I didn't change anything
[08:13] <thoreauputic> dazed_: well, fluxbox is easily reconfigured, as you see
[08:13] <binks> cheers dudes
[08:13] <dazed_> yes
[08:13] <dazed_> im used to the fluxbox configuration
[08:14] <dazed_> i can run my way through there hahah
[08:14] <eyequeue> LinuxJones:  upgrade anything in the interim?
[08:14] <dazed_> its just all the nix details that get me
[08:14] <LinuxJones> eyequeue, I upgraded yesterday and things went south from there
[08:14] <thoreauputic> dazed_: don't forget there's a time-out on sudo - so if you do two or three in a short time it won't ask for the password again
[08:14] <dazed_> ok
[08:15] <dazed_> god i love this system
[08:16] <thoreauputic> dazed_: there's always a fix - finding it is the problem ;-)
[08:16] <Cripp> Dazed glad to hear that .. Im installing it as we speak . Hope I can love it to hehe
[08:16] <dazed_> lol...hey anyone know how to set it to Central time zone...what city is located in Central Time Zone US
[08:17] <thoreauputic> Cripp: it's like a marriage - you only love it when you put the work in ;-)
[08:17] <eyequeue> dazed_:  export TZ=CST6CDT, typically
[08:18] <eyequeue> dazed_:  unless you're in indiana where they don't do dst, or similar
[08:18] <Cripp> Thats why I put it on old system. Work And screw it up a few thousand times
[08:18] <GFXstyLER> hi there
[08:18] <GFXstyLER> is there a way to use fake-shadows for xorg?
[08:18] <thoreauputic> Cripp: ah, a trial marriage, then ;)
[08:18] <Cripp> St Louis Mo Is Central time zone
[08:18] <GFXstyLER> since i have an ati card it does not work too well
[08:19] <dazed_> ok thanks eyequeue got it
[08:19] <Cripp> Yes Ive tried Mandrake 10 but pc to slow for that
[08:21] <Cripp> Thoreauputic Yes Im still pretty new With linux . Learning all the swithces commands, And lingo Is a challange
[08:21] <membreya> it's all fun Cripp :)
[08:21] <LeEspionage> theres a lingo
[08:22] <LeEspionage> never noticed
[08:22] <membreya> hrm..odd...pinging www gives the alias to my ISPs webpage, yet squid doesn't resolve it
[08:22] <thoreauputic> Cripp: http://www.tuxfiles.org/     << great newbie command line site
[08:22] <membreya> how dare it not work out of the box
[08:23] <Cripp> When your use to . Self exctracting Program files . Its a little tuff remebering what to do with tar zips and where to extract them to
[08:23] <blizah> when ubuntu boots up i get a message saying my PNP BIOS has caused a fatal error....PNP BIOS ERROR blalala        ,   now i went into bios and right now its set to let the bios, not the os, handle the plugnplay (PNP) stuff...should i let the os or the bios handle it and second how to i get rid of the PNP BIOS error at boot
[08:24] <blizah> btw everything has worked fine regardless of the error
[08:24] <Cripp> And where to find them when you do LOL
[08:24] <thoreauputic> Cripp: by default they extract into your current directory
[08:24] <Cripp> Hmm cool
[08:24] <thoreauputic> Cripp: you can move them later if required
[08:24] <membreya> aaah I'm loving galeon :) it's such eye candy
[08:25] <Cripp> So best thing to do Is to create a temp dir .
[08:25] <membreya> except that it doesnt remember form information (such as google search strings)
[08:25] <Cripp> Like D/L folder
[08:25] <thoreauputic> Cripp: and for .tar.gz use  tar xvzf,   for tar.bz2 use tar xvjf
[08:25] <membreya> everything goes on the desktop Cripp :P
[08:25] <thoreauputic> Cripp: yep, or "build" or "tarball" or whatever
[08:26] <thoreauputic> membreya: hmm... I don't like the desktop as a default for *anything*
[08:26] <Cripp> Me either
[08:26] <membreya> sook thoreauputic "{
[08:26] <membreya> :P
[08:26] <thoreauputic> it doesn't travel well  between window managers, for one thing
[08:26] <membreya> my gf's desktop is half filled with icons of stuff she's downloaded :|
[08:26] <membreya> even I'm not that message
[08:26] <Cripp> I dont hav e aclue whata tarball is
[08:27] <membreya> who changes wm's ? :P
[08:27] <thoreauputic> Cripp:  fo.tar.gz
[08:27] <membreya> foo even :P
[08:27] <thoreauputic> heh   foo,tar,gz
[08:27] <thoreauputic> membreya: you have trouble parsing common typos, apparently ... ;-)
[08:28] <membreya> oh hush now :P
[08:29] <LeeColleton> thoreauputic: don't mkae fun of dyslceisc poeple
[08:29] <invalid> I am having a probelm upgrading to newer sources
[08:29] <membreya> hmmm should I convertfs my 80gb partition (almost all full) from fat32 to reiser? :P
[08:29] <Cripp> LOL
[08:30] <invalid> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdeedu-data_4%3a3.3.2-1ubuntu2_all.deb (--unpack):
[08:30] <thoreauputic> Cripp: this always happens whenever membreya turns up ;-)
[08:30] <membreya> ooooooooh speaking of words, found out something bizarre that never struck me before...facetious...it contains all the vowels in order :P
[08:30] <Cripp> Membre Your medal is upside down
[08:30] <membreya> Cripp: it isn't for me :)
[08:30] <thoreauputic> membreya: heh - it does indeed - thank you for sharing that ;-)
[08:31] <EvilSven> hi, totem can't play anything, xine plays fine. Anyone got a hint what could be wrong. (totem has never worked for me)
[08:31] <EvilSven> ?
[08:31] <Cripp> oh well.. Still installing
[08:31] <thoreauputic> EvilSven: possibly lack of gstreamer0.8-mad and plugins
[08:31] <membreya> it's all fun and it gets your brain working Cripp :)
[08:32] <thoreauputic> EvilSven: or just the fact that totem is crap ;-)
[08:32] <Cripp> Need plenty of that :-)
[08:32] <LinuxJones> Ohhh Gnome 2.10 was released today...cool
[08:32] <EvilSven> think I got that
[08:33] <thoreauputic> Cripp: membreya shows little evidence that Linux gets your brain working - pay no attention ;-)
[08:33] <JackD7> hiya
[08:34] <membreya> you'll keep
[08:34] <Cripp> Will do..
[08:34] <jgl> which is the version of kernel i386 ubuntu?
[08:34] <JackD7> is it correct that ibm pcs with p4 are not supported by ubuntu ? during install it complain about several mobo parts like iibm ide controller and so on
[08:34] <thoreauputic> membreya: hehe - sorry couldn't resist a straight line like that :)
[08:34] <jgl> anybody know version of kernel i386 ubuntu?
[08:35] <thoreauputic> jgl: depends
[08:35] <thoreauputic> jgl: uname -r to find out
[08:35] <membreya> "ibm pc's" ..that's a very broad term :)
[08:35] <EvilSven> hmm, missing that...
[08:35] <jgl> for example , it's in web
[08:35] <JackD7> its a netvista 6794-75g
[08:36] <EvilSven> gstreamer0.8-mpeg2dec could be good too?
[08:36] <JackD7> ;)
[08:36] <jgl> ubuntu warty?
[08:36] <JackD7> 4.1
[08:36] <jgl> kernel version of ubuntu warty?
[08:37] <Alessio> sorry
[08:37] <Alessio> what about ipodder for linux? it's only in rpm
[08:37] <jgl> because linmodems for kernel 2.6.5?
[08:38] <EvilSven> thoreauputic, maybe I sho8uld get this instead? gstreamer0.8-plugins
[08:38] <EvilSven> thoreauputic, or is it overkill?
[08:38] <blizah> anyone else heard of this PNP BIOS error?
[08:38] <JackD7> jgl ? was the question to me ?
[08:39] <Lemonzest> is there a guide for playing/encoding mp3 with gstreamer?
[08:39] <jgl> yes, i want to install linmodem, but my kernel is 2.6.5 and i find linmodem for 2.6.4
[08:39] <cavediver> Anyone else having problem with Archive manager in gnome not supporting rar-files
[08:40] <dayz> anybody know when hoary will be available for download?
[08:40] <cavediver> April I think
[08:40] <LinuxJones> dayz, it's available now as a dev release
[08:40] <cavediver> If you mean when Hoary will replace warty as "stable"
[08:41] <cavediver> It's already available for testing
[08:41] <Lemonzest> on the live-cd i cant select higher than 1024x768 yet my monitor can handle 1280x1024
[08:41] <Lemonzest> will installing fully fix that? i have  a radeon 9100
[08:41] <cavediver> Lemonzest: probably a driver issue.
[08:41] <blizah> what would i do to create a shortcut to another file?
[08:41] <Lemonzest> any idea what the new artwork is?
[08:42] <EvilSven> Lemonzest, I neede to us xf86cfg to fix res and refresh
[08:42] <membreya> damn console at boot not being able to go above 1024x768
[08:42] <EvilSven> but it was easy
[08:43] <EvilSven> Do I need to restart gnome for gstreamer plugins to take effect?
[08:44] <basse> "wrt" ?
[08:45] <basse> uh, sorry about that, mixup on irssi windowing here heh.
[08:45] <jordanau> basse i didn't know you use ubuntu
[08:45] <basse> what I meant to ask is is ubuntu available in finnish language?
[08:45] <jordanau> i'm at blenderchat right now
[08:45] <Alessio> i have convert
[08:45] <Alessio> ipodder with alien
[08:46] <basse> jordanau: i dont. I'm using debian. my wifes friend crashed her mandrake, and was asking for new linux.. and I suggested ubuntu, but then started thinking if it's availalbe in finnish ..
[08:46] <Alessio> but alessio@Ubuntu:~ $ ipodder
[08:46] <Alessio> Traceback (most recent call last):
[08:46] <Alessio>   File "iPodderGui.py", line 1, in ?
[08:46] <Alessio>     import wx
[08:46] <Alessio> what's?
[08:46] <blizah> so can we upgrade to the latest gnome w/ out upgrading ubuntu?
[08:47] <jordanau> ah
[08:47] <Loiosh> I believe it is, basse. I'd have to check when I get home though
[08:47] <Loiosh> Just FYI, I'm using the Array-6 test version
[08:47] <bryan> blizah:  why don't you just upgrade ubuntu too, i havn't run across any problems in it yet
[08:47] <bryan> 5.04
[08:48] <basse> Loiosh: would you suggest it to a sort of newbie in linux kind of person? there are tools to configure things? like drakconf in mandrake?
[08:48] <T_Trainer> basse: it is available in Finnish, but there are some things that aren't translated and there are Swedish and English at those points
[08:48] <blizah> well id rather just wait for a stable release..im new to linux, and its only a month away
[08:48] <Loiosh> Yes, it is a completely package-based GNOME distribution.
[08:48] <Loiosh> I'm a linux nubbie =)
[08:49] <bryan> i'm a noob too, although i've been using it in one way or another for years
[08:50] <Echylo> hello
[08:50] <bryan> hi Echylo
[08:51] <Echylo> with what command u see how much space you have left?
[08:51] <membreya> hiya Echylo :)
[08:51] <membreya> df -h
[08:51] <Echylo> key thanks
[08:51] <Echylo> installed custom ubuntu
[08:51] <membreya> "custom" ?
[08:52] <Echylo> yes
[08:52] <Echylo> 618Mb
[08:52] <Echylo> hmm not that large eh :)
[08:52] <membreya> :D
[08:52] <basse> T_Trainer: ok.. and is it really just one CD for installation?
[08:52] <jordanau> I just installed and played bzflag, then i exited and checked my pstree and still say bzflag as a process, should i kill it?\
[08:52] <membreya> Echylo: my current install is 3.5gb :P
[08:52] <Echylo> but it's just custom
[08:52] <basse> jordanau: good game!
[08:53] <Echylo> I have desktop installed too
[08:53] <bryan> how do you check how big the install is?
[08:53] <Echylo> that will be pretty large
[08:53] <Echylo> df -h
[08:53] <Echylo> bryan :)
[08:53] <Echylo> basics of linux!
[08:53] <jordanau> it looks a lot better on linux than windows
[08:53] <Echylo> you should know
[08:53] <Echylo> :P
[08:53] <jordanau> i was surprised
[08:53] <T_Trainer> basse, yeah, only one cd
[08:53] <bryan> that doesn't just tell you install size,that
[08:53] <xybrie> u
[08:53] <bryan> s your whole drive
[08:53] <xybrie> fdfdgvfdgdfg
[08:53] <xybrie> dgd
[08:53] <xybrie> dgd
[08:53] <Echylo> ow
[08:53] <basse> fab: this is only for poster?
[08:54] <basse> damn damn
[08:54] <basse> sorry again
[08:54] <Echylo> I don't think you can now bryan
[08:54] <xybrie> gd
[08:54] <bryan> probably not
[08:54] <xybrie> g
[08:54] <xybrie> dg
[08:54] <xybrie> dg
[08:54] <xybrie> dg
[08:54] <xybrie> d
[08:54] <xybrie> g
[08:54] <xybrie> d
[08:54] <Inva|id> is there an .iso available for the hoary release?
[08:54] <xybrie> d
[08:54] <xybrie> gd
[08:54] <bryan> xybrie:  having fun?
[08:54] <xybrie> gd
[08:54] <xybrie> gd
[08:54] <xybrie> d
[08:54] <xybrie> gd
[08:54] <Myrtti> xybrie: go kill yourself
[08:54] <xybrie> gd
[08:54] <xybrie> gdg
[08:54] <xybrie> dg
[08:54] <xybrie> dg
[08:54] <xybrie> dg
[08:54] <xybrie> dgdg
[08:54] <xybrie> dgdg
[08:54] <Myrtti> xybrie: or atleast find some other place to play
[08:54] <xybrie> dg
[08:54] <xybrie> dg
[08:54] <xybrie> d
[08:54] <xybrie> gd
[08:54] <xybrie> g
[08:54] <xybrie> dg
[08:54] <Myrtti> where are the ops when needed?
[08:54] <xybrie> g
[08:54] <xybrie> d
[08:54] <xybrie> gd
[08:55] <xybrie> g
[08:55] <xybrie> dg
[08:55] <Loiosh> Heh
[08:55] <xybrie> dg
[08:55] <xybrie> dg
[08:55] <xybrie> d
[08:55] <xybrie> gd
[08:55] <xybrie> g
[08:55] <xybrie> dg
[08:55] <xybrie> dg
[08:55] <xybrie> dg
[08:55] <xybrie> dg
[08:55] <xybrie> dg
[08:55] <xybrie> d
[08:55] <xybrie> gd
[08:55] <scorpix> maybe he's sleeping on the keyboard :P
[08:55] <xybrie> gd
[08:55] <xybrie> gd
[08:55] <DannyD> Hi, Can I ask a technical question ?
[08:55] <xybrie> gvd
[08:55] <amblin> 2 fingered typist?
[08:55] <xybrie> gd
[08:55] <xybrie> gd
[08:55] <xybrie> g
[08:55] <LinuxJones> xybrie, pleaaase stop that
[08:55] <johns^> or he has a cat
[08:55] <xybrie> dgdg
[08:55] <Myrtti> /ignore xybrie
[08:55] <xybrie> gd
[08:55] <Echylo> xybrie
[08:55] <xybrie> g
[08:55] <xybrie> why ??
[08:55] <xybrie> fuck you
[08:55] <DannyD> Hi, Can I ask a technical question ?
[08:55] <Echylo> looks like you got fucked
[08:55] <Myrtti> thank you
[08:56] <Echylo> yes DannyD
[08:56] <Myrtti> sure
[08:56] <membreya> ta fabbione :)
[08:56] <bryan> -xybrie- VERSION Opera M2/7.54 (Win32, build 3865)
[08:56] <DannyD> I installed ubuntu from an ide cdrom drive.Installation went fine.I've removed the cdrom drive and replaced an ide hd on that bus but ununtu isn't picking it up.How do I mount it ?
[08:57] <membreya> hmmm 7 am..one last ciggie before sleep
[08:57] <jordanau> walking outside i assume?
[08:57] <bryan> sleep @ 7am?
[08:57] <bryan> you work nights, membreya ?
[08:57] <jordanau> or party hard one
[08:57] <membreya> this week I do :)
[08:57] <basse> T_Trainer: how does everything fit in it,. while other distros are 3 CDs ?
[08:58] <membreya> hmmm bzflag...does that allow solo play?
[08:58] <Echylo> brb
[08:58] <Loiosh> Anyone know where the known hosts file is?
[08:58] <Loiosh> Locate cannot find it
[08:58] <tizen> Loiosh: not /etc/hosts ?
[08:59] <bryan> you might need to build a slocate database
[08:59] <Loiosh> Known hosts for OpenSSH
[08:59] <johns^> for ssh?
[08:59] <bryan> slocate -u
[08:59] <johns^> ah
[08:59] <johns^> :)
[08:59] <Loiosh> Hehe
[08:59] <membreya> bryan: same as sudo locate -u?
[08:59] <GFXstyLER> hi
[08:59] <johns^> the user file is in $HOME/.ssh/
[08:59] <Loiosh> I thought it was in $HOME/.ssh yeah
[08:59] <Loiosh> LoL
[08:59] <membreya> wb thoreauputic_ :P
[08:59] <thoreauputic_> :)
[08:59] <DannyD> Darwin dannys-Computer.local 7.8.0 Darwin Kernel Version 7.8.0: Wed Dec 22 14:26:17 PST 2004; root:xnu/xnu-517.11.1.obj~1/RELEASE_PPC  Power Macintosh powerpc
[09:00] <GFXstyLER> does someone know how i could get the java virtual machine on ubuntu?
[09:00] <johns^> but it's not there by default
[09:00] <LeEspionage> /etc/hosts   hosts.allow hosts.deny for tcp wrappers to control ssh behavior
[09:00] <bryan>  slocate - Security Enhanced version of the GNU Locate
[09:00] <Loiosh> known_hosts?
[09:00] <Loiosh> Just make it?
[09:00] <LeEspionage> or ~.ssh/hosts   for know ones
[09:00] <johns^> yup.
[09:00] <LeEspionage> known
[09:00] <DannyD> johns^ : Check the faqs in the support section on the website.
[09:00] <johns^> generate an id_rsa
[09:00] <DannyD> johns^ Java vm is a topic there
[09:00] <GFXstyLER> DannyD: thx
[09:00] <johns^> then cat id_rsa.pub >> $HOME/.ssh/known_hosts
[09:01] <DannyD> GFXstyLER np :)
[09:01] <DannyD> I installed ubuntu from an ide cdrom drive.Installation went fine.I've removed the cdrom drive and replaced an ide hd on that bus but ununtu isn't picking it up.How do I mount it ?
[09:01] <Loiosh> Thanks, you two =)
[09:01] <johns^> yw
[09:01] <membreya> GFXstyLER: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#jre
[09:01] <johns^> it's not difficult DannyD
[09:01] <GFXstyLER> membreya: thx too :)
[09:01] <ermo> GFXstyLER, there is no 'canonical' java vm policy in ubuntu..
[09:01] <johns^> does it have linux partitions?
[09:02] <membreya> tho I prefer blackdown for JRE :)
[09:02] <DannyD> johns^ : Nope, ntfs . I guess I need to install libntfs5,libntfs-gnomevfs and ntfsprogs ?
[09:02] <DannyD> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=11924&highlight=mount+ide+hd
[09:02] <bryan> wtf is a 'canonical java vm policy" ?
[09:02] <ermo> GFXstyLER, but, out of the several options, I would recommend this version (integrated into dpkg/apt) ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html
[09:03] <johns^> DannyD: I don't know if the ubuntu kernel has ntfs support
[09:03] <johns^> ro
[09:03] <ermo> bryan, why don't you telle me?
[09:03] <bryan> if i knew i would
[09:03] <membreya> johns^: it has read only ntfs
[09:03] <johns^> you could try mount -t ntfs /dev/hdc1 /mnt/mountpoint
[09:03] <ermo> bryan, which was my point. It's a do-it-yourself thing.
[09:03] <johns^> ah membreya ,thnx
[09:03] <DannyD> merriam :I'll give that a go, thanks.
[09:03] <DannyD> johns^ : I'll give that a go thanks
[09:03] <Echylo> what is a good command line mp3 player?
[09:03] <aquarius> Nautilus's cd burner won't let me burn an ISO at less than maximum speed on warty; how can I find out what my device is for use with cdrecord?
[09:04] <aquarius> Echylo, madplay.
[09:04] <Echylo> thankies!
[09:04] <thoreauputic> Echylo: mpg321
[09:04] <membreya> in my fstab I have my NTFS partition mounted with /dev/sda1       /media/temp    ntfs    umask=002      0       0
[09:05] <Echylo> broken package error
[09:05] <Echylo> libid3tag0
[09:06] <thoreauputic> Echylo: do you have universe and multiverse?
[09:06] <Echylo> hmm multiverse
[09:06] <DannyD> johns^ mount -t ntfs /dev/hdc1 /mnt/mountpoint -> mount point /mnt/mountpoint does not exist :( Do I need to create this /dev entry first ?
[09:06] <eyequeue> bbl
[09:07] <aquarius> cdrecord -scanbus complains about /dev/pg*. cdrecord -scanbus dev=ATA (or dev=ATAPI) tries to open /dev/hda (my hard drive!) exclusively and fails.
[09:07] <johns^> not the dev entry but mkdir /mnt/mountpoint
[09:07] <johns^> or something you might like
[09:07] <DannyD> oh ok
[09:07] <johns^> I've dot /mnt/dozer
[09:07] <johns^> got
[09:07] <membreya> DannyD: you need to create the directory in /mnt
[09:07] <bryan> umm
[09:08] <bryan> you should make it in /media/
[09:08] <bryan> not /mnt/
[09:08] <tizen> DannyD: unless you want to only open files with root, you should add -o umask=0222 to that command after ntfs
[09:08] <membreya> oh yeah bryan ..that's where my mounts are :)
[09:08] <DevDuck> I need help setting up a DVD writer; I added hdb=ide-scsi to menu.lst and now there's no /dev/hdb but there's no scsi entires either
[09:08] <johns^> so are mine
[09:08] <johns^> since 1997
[09:08] <thoreauputic> bryan: actually doesn't make a scrap of difference :)
[09:08] <bryan> it does
[09:08] <bryan> if you do it in /mnt/
[09:09] <tizen> i still use /mnt
[09:09] <bryan> it doesn't show up in computer thing
[09:09] <DevDuck> I still use /mnt
[09:09] <Echylo> thoreauputic, I got both enabled
[09:09] <thoreauputic> bryan: excuse me, it does if fstab is correct
[09:09] <DevDuck> and it shows up in Places
[09:09] <Echylo> but still the broken package error
[09:09] <membreya> anyone else having a problem with hoary with their mounts not showing in "places" or "computer"? the only one showing is my samba mounted drive
[09:09] <Echylo> I guess I miss some sources
[09:09] <Echylo> thoreauputic, can you show me your sources.list?
[09:10] <DannyD> johns^ It works but I don't have permissions as a regular user.How do I enable root as opposed to using sudo all the time ?
[09:10] <thoreauputic> Echylo: which package are yo trying to install?
[09:10] <Echylo> mpg321
[09:10] <johns^> you need an umask
[09:10] <Echylo> I need
[09:10] <DevDuck> where do I add the "hdb=ide-scsi" in menu.lst to get a cd/dvd writer to work?
[09:10] <Echylo> libid3tag0
[09:10] <DannyD> I suppose I could give myself a uid of 1
[09:10] <thoreauputic> Echylo: it's in universe, I think
[09:10] <Echylo> universe is enabled
[09:10] <johns^> umount it
[09:11] <Echylo> but still it says that it isn't available
[09:11] <johns^> and then: mount -t ntfs -o ro,umask=0 /dev/hdc1 /mnt/mountpoint
[09:11] <FAST> is gnome 2.10 going to be put into the package db ?
[09:11] <LeEspionage> *scsi emulation deprecated circa 2.6.8 or 2.6.9*
[09:11] <T_Trainer> DannyD: sudo passwd root might help
[09:11] <DevDuck> ok, then how do I do it now?
[09:11] <thoreauputic> Echylo: hmm - that lib is in main, in warty
[09:11] <DannyD> johns^  thanks
[09:11] <johns^> and then put it in your fstab
[09:11] <DevDuck> is there a howto for disc writing that's updated
[09:11] <Echylo> that's also enabled
[09:12] <johns^> or mount it in /media, as suggested here
[09:12] <membreya> hmmm is there any way to force nautilus to reload the thumbnails it has stored for videos?
[09:12] <DannyD> john : Oh will do , thanks.
[09:12] <johns^> I still use /mnt because all my symlinks in /home/johns point to that dir
[09:12] <Echylo> ox
[09:12] <Echylo> ow
[09:12] <Echylo> wait
[09:13] <Echylo> wasn't enabled
[09:13] <Echylo> sorry my fault
[09:13] <Echylo> yey
[09:13] <Echylo> now it installs
[09:13] <aquarius> membreya, you could empty out ~/.thumbnails, but that'll delete *all* your thumbnails.
[09:14] <membreya> that's fine :)
[09:15] <membreya> hrm
[09:15] <membreya> emptied the directory
[09:15] <will> what is the command for a symlink?
[09:15] <membreya> and it's not refreshing the thumbnails
[09:15] <aquarius> will: ln -s oldfile newfile
[09:15] <membreya> will ln -s
[09:15] <thoreauputic> will: ln -s target link
[09:15] <aquarius> membreya, probably got them cached in memory...?
[09:15] <will> thanks guys
[09:15] <membreya> lol
[09:16] <membreya> aquarius: nope, it's not even displaying the thumbnails now :| will figure it out :P
[09:16] <aquarius> membreya, er. oops. hope i haven't broken it for you :)
[09:17] <thoreauputic> aquarius: mv is more seful than rm at times :)
[09:17] <membreya> tis cool :)
[09:17] <thoreauputic> *useful
[09:17] <DevDuck> so if scsi-emulationis depreciated, I can just burn using /dev/hdb now?
[09:18] <bryan> There were no decoders found to handle the stream in file "file:///home/bryan/Desktop/Downloads/tftchuckyfs_sample.vob", you might need to install the corresponding plugins
[09:18] <bryan> ^^ what plugin would i install for that?
[09:18] <thoreauputic> DevDuck: yes, but cdrecord will probably spit at you ;)
[09:18] <membreya> is there any trouble in chmoding something to 777?
[09:19] <DevDuck> I intend to use XCDRoast most of the time
[09:19] <DevDuck> since K3B, which is heaily suggested, require KDE
[09:19] <thoreauputic> membreya: yeah, if I got into your system I could rewrite all your pr0n files...
[09:20] <bryan> :0
[09:20] <membreya> "if" :P
[09:20] <bryan> not the pr0n!
[09:20] <DevDuck> thanks thoreauputic  and LeEspionage
[09:20] <membreya> hardware firewall/router + firestarter
[09:20] <DevDuck> gotta reboot and turn off emulation
[09:20] <membreya> and only the necessary ports open :)
[09:20] <ulisse> hi all
[09:21] <DannyD> johns^: I added the ntfs hd to fstab and I can browse the folder using a root terminal but not as a regular user.How do I fix that ?
[09:21] <DannyD> I can't change the owner or perms as its a read only file system
[09:21] <johns^> uh, what options did you put in fstab
[09:22] <membreya> aquarius: it's rebuilding the cached thumbnails for pics, but not movies :\
[09:22] <DannyD> ..../dev/hdc1 /mnt/video ntfs ro,user,noauto,0
[09:22] <johns^> I should use /dev/hdc1 /media/windows umask=1,ro 0 0
[09:22] <bryan> mine looks like
[09:22] <bryan> /dev/hdb1       /media/decepticon ntfs user,umask=0222 0 0
[09:22] <ulisse> someone have celestia installed on hoary?
[09:22] <johns^> you need the umask line
[09:23] <DannyD> oh I'll try that.
[09:23] <will> DannyD: use umask=0222
[09:23] <johns^> I forgot the fs type in my example
[09:23] <johns^> but bryan didn't :)
[09:23] <will> ie  i have: /dev/hda1	/mnt/windows	ntfs	umask=0222	0	0
[09:23] <johns^> umask=0 will work also
[09:24] <deadcat> if i am using warty, can i upgrade to the lastest version without downloading the iso and reinstall?
[09:24] <ulisse> I'm trying to compile Celestia from source, but I get " zlib not found"
[09:24] <thoreauputic> deadcat: yes, you can do a dist-upgrade to hoary
[09:24] <deadcat> thoreauputic: cool.
[09:24] <ulisse> I have zlib1g[-dev]  installed, so I think zlib is on my system...
[09:25] <Cius> hello
[09:25] <LordC> Whatever program I try and burn CDRs in, OPC always fails :/
[09:25] <LordC> I managed to burn an ISO in nautilous
[09:25] <Cius> new to ubuntu, have a serious error that is keeping from installing.
[09:25] <kingsley_> Is there a module, core file or something that can diagnose why a kernel crashes?
[09:25] <LordC> But neither xcdroast, GnomeBaker, nor K3B will burn CDRS :/
[09:25] <bryan> lol, didn't you ask that same question lastnight, kingsley_ ?
[09:26] <thoreauputic> deadcat: change all instances of "warty" to "hoary" in your sources, reload or apt-get update, then apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:26] <kingsley_> bryan: Yes, without result.
[09:26] <orospakr> why is dancer-ircd not present in hoary, yet dancer-services is?
[09:26] <thoreauputic> deadcat: obviously those commands require sudo
[09:26] <Cius> I have an old grub install from my experimentation with gentoo.  After installing ubuntu, I reboot and my old grub install tries to boot, but errors occur and i can't get into ubuntu.  Can anyone help?
[09:26] <deadcat> thoreauputic: ok. thanks. planning to donate a p2
[09:27] <blizah> can i update gaim w/ out going to hoary?
[09:27] <bryan> backports
[09:27] <deadcat> blizah: try adding hoary's source to sources.list, update then apt-get install -t hoary gaim
[09:27] <kingsley_> Cius: Do you see an error message while booting?
[09:27] <Ribs> hoary gets released soon, doesn't it?
[09:27] <jordanau> april
[09:27] <Ribs> 1st? :)
[09:28] <Ribs> That would be cool
[09:28] <jordanau> ha i anwsered my first question!
[09:28] <Cius> kingsley, it comes up and says Grub loading... then it just pops up and says error 18 or something like that
[09:28] <blizah> deadcat, could i do the same for firefox and things?
[09:28] <deadcat> hows ubuntu detecting ISA modems?
[09:28] <membreya> IS what now ? :P
[09:28] <kingsley_> Cius: I suggest googling for the exact error message.
[09:28] <deadcat> blizah: you can try, but if it breaks, you get to keep both parts (=
[09:29] <cavediver> Can someone please check if they have openoffice.org2-core in their repository (hoary)
[09:29] <cavediver> It seems broken
[09:29] <Cius> I'll try that
[09:29] <Cius> thanks kingsley
[09:29] <blizah> hehe
[09:30] <acs> hello
[09:30] <acs> does anyone know a good program that will tell me the temp of my disk
[09:30] <blizah> so just outta curiousity if im running warty and an older mozilla firefox and they discovered some security holes in it..doesnt that mean i have holes in my firefox?
[09:30] <deadcat> acs: hddtemp
[09:30] <Solatis> what is the default password for new ubuntu installations ?
[09:30] <Solatis> (root)
[09:31] <deadcat> acs: some disks dont support it though. WD wont, segate does on my ibook
[09:31] <deadcat> Solatis: none. the first user is kinna root
[09:31] <thoreauputic> blizah: if you do the " -t hoary" thing, be sure to change your sources back afterwards, or things will start happening in strange and undesirable ways on your next update
[09:31] <FAST> is gnome 2.10 going to be put into the package db ?
[09:31] <deadcat> thoreauputic: oh ya.. heheh. else it gets from hoary from then on
[09:31] <thoreauputic> Solatis: sudo with your user password
[09:32] <deadcat> FAST: slow the f down. 2.10 just came out.
[09:32] <djg> Hi, I've got a centrino wireless device, but I can't get it recognised.  Any tips/URLs to read?
[09:32] <deadcat> FAST: just download the splashscreen and you have 2.10 (=
[09:32] <cavediver> 2.10 is in hoary.
[09:33] <deadcat> djg: ipw2100 google
[09:33] <djg> I've installed the ipw2200 drivers, but eth0 isn't even in the list of interfaces.
[09:33] <blizah> deadcat hehe
[09:33] <deadcat> djg: load the module yet?
[09:33] <djg> modprobe ipw2200?
[09:33] <DannyD> johns^ : Thanks ,that's mounting as a regular user now :)
[09:34] <thoreauputic> blizah: re: holes in your fiefox - unless you are in the habit of clicking links that say "Please update your PayPal details ! " you should be pretty safe ...
[09:34] <deadcat> djg: try it. i dont have centrino
[09:34] <blizah> thoreauputic hehe ok
[09:34] <DannyD> will and bryan thanks too
[09:34] <bryan> gotta love those phishers
[09:34] <djg> deadcat: Nope, nothing.
[09:34] <cavediver> Can someone guide me through getting OpenOffice 2 beta in Hoary.
[09:34] <ulisse> can someone help me with zlib?
[09:34] <bryan> np DannyD
[09:34] <blizah> thoreauputic ever see that study showing that most people dont know the differnce between an add and a search result?
[09:34] <deadcat> djg: modprobe -l |grep ipw
[09:35] <djg> There a flood channel I ca n use
[09:35] <djg> ?
[09:35] <thoreauputic> blizah: or the one that said you could get people's passwords by offering them chocolate?
[09:35] <deadcat> #flood
[09:35] <bryan> www.pastebin.com
[09:35] <thoreauputic> blizah: I believe both... sadly
[09:35] <acs> deadcat, thanks
[09:36] <BaxterW> I've got a terribly old computer I'm running Ubuntu on, how can I get it to stop starting up X on boot. I'm used to init levels, but ubuntu does something different.
[09:36] <ulisse> cavediver, OOo2 should be in the universe repository, I think
[09:36] <djg> deadcat: Pasted to #flood
[09:36] <deadcat> BaxterW: /etc/X11/default-*manager*
[09:36] <ulisse> cavediver, just enable it and get OOo2 with synaptic
[09:36] <deadcat> djg: i am not in #flood (=. let me join
[09:37] <ulisse> can someone help me with zlib?
[09:37] <djg> deadcat: They're all there.
[09:37] <BaxterW> deadcat, thanks
[09:37] <deadcat> djg: i dont know whats the diff between 2200 and 2100, but lsmod|grep ipw, then iwconfig
[09:37] <djg> deadcat: It was recognised as eth0 during the install, but eth0 isn't in /etc/netwoork/interfaces
[09:37] <deadcat> BaxterW: or jsut apt-get remove --purge gdm hehe
[09:38] <deadcat> djg: oh. man 5 interfaces, all the iwreless options are in there too.
[09:38] <TraceyTux> Help! I can't get Shorewall working!
[09:38] <djg> deadcat: I get a list of network devices (excluding eth0) and all have 'no wireless extensions'
[09:38] <djg> deadcat: OK, I'll give that a shot.
[09:38] <djg> deadcat: Thanks for your help.
[09:38] <deadcat> djg: want me to paste my config?
[09:39] <OrangeSlice> Gnome 2.10 :)
[09:39] <djg> deadcat: Thanks
[09:40] <deadcat> djg: ya. just 2 simple lines. but if you want a key, its the same format.
[09:40] <djg> deadcat: How would I find my essid?
[09:40] <thoreauputic> TraceyTux: unless you have a special preference for Shorewall, I suggest you install firestarter (very easy to set up)
[09:40] <djg> deadcat: I'm totally new to wireless.
[09:40] <deadcat> djg: you dont know your own essid? then you're fucked. (=
[09:40] <djg> deadcat: You may have guessed.
[09:41] <Lano> simple question: every time gnome starts, also starts CDplayer and terminal. Where (.conf) do I kill that? Thanks!
[09:41] <cavediver> ulisse: it is broken here. It can't find openoffice.org2-core
[09:41] <deadcat> djg: connect to your router/AP via rj45 then check there.
[09:41] <cavediver> I get an error when trying to apt-get oppenoffice.org2-common
[09:41] <djg> deadcat: I see...
[09:42] <djg> deadcat: I have a linksys router.  It defaults to 'linksys'.  That the essid?
[09:42] <thoreauputic> Lano: just exit them and save your session when you log out
[09:42] <ulisse> cavediver, it doesn't find when downloading or at all?
[09:42] <djg> deadcat: i.e. the 'name' of the network?
[09:42] <Lano> thoreauputic: tried that, it doesn't help
[09:42] <deadcat> djg: ya
[09:42] <ona9> how do I fix: "E: Unable to lock the download directory" ?
[09:42] <Xappe> what's the difference between powerpc, power3 and power4 kernels?
[09:42] <deadcat> ona9: you have another apt-get running
[09:43] <Lano> thoreauputic: but you give me one mor idea...be right back
[09:43] <djg> deadcat: Thanks
[09:43] <cavediver> ulisse:  openoffice.org2-common: Depends: openoffice.org2-core (> 1.9.76) but it is not installable
[09:43] <deadcat> Xappe: power3 and 4 are g3 and 4 i think.
[09:43] <ona9> haha thanks, deadcat :P
[09:44] <cavediver> apt-cache search openoffice.org2-core gives nothing. But -common shows up
[09:44] <deadcat> ona9: i do that alot with screen running.
[09:44] <ulisse> cavediver, I don't know, on my hoary it seems to select all the needed packages right, bu I'm not going to install this time...
[09:44] <djg> deadcat: I got 'no such device'
[09:45] <deadcat> djg: what device?
[09:45] <djg> eth0
[09:45] <deadcat> djg: but you said you have eth0 as your wireless
[09:45] <djg> Sorry, that is what is reserved for it, I guess.
[09:45] <cavediver> ulisse: really strange. Can you priv-mess your sources.list file ?
[09:45] <deadcat> djg: maybe eth1 is wireless and eth0 is your wired nic.
[09:46] <ulisse> sure
[09:46] <Xappe> deadcat, would be good to know. i'm going to reinstall Hoary on the ibook because I was not really satisfied with the changes I made
[09:46] <deadcat> Xappe: debian on my ibook as i am typing.(= smooth as a fucker. uptime is 38days. windows servers dont have this kind of uptime heheh
[09:46] <Lano> it helped, thanks
[09:47] <Xappe> deadcat, so did you use the power3 or 4? i have an ibook g3...
[09:47] <deadcat> djg: i got class. good luck.
[09:47] <bretzel> Hi there, how can I find a .deb of KDevelop-3.2 ?? ( kde-3.4 has been avail - but no Kdevelop 3.2 )
[09:47] <bryan> deadcat:  my windows server has been up for 284 days
[09:47] <deadcat> Xappe: i compiled my own kernel from kernel.org source.
[09:47] <Xappe> deadcat, oh
[09:47] <deadcat> bryan: oh. (=
[09:48] <deadcat> Xappe: you want my .config?
[09:48] <Levander> Is there a good html color picker app in the ubuntu repositories?
[09:48] <bryan> it just serves dvd's to my tv though
[09:48] <ulisse> cavediver, ehm... how can I pvt you? :-P I'm not used to chat...
[09:48] <SiRrUs> anyone know if the pre-release is out yet?
[09:48] <Xappe> deadcat, no, I just want to know the best of the available options on the install cd
[09:48] <deadcat> Xappe: oh. no clue.
[09:48] <bryan> ulisse:  /msg
[09:48] <deadcat> later yall
[09:48] <cavediver> ulisse: in irssi you type slash nickname message
[09:49] <bryan>  /msg nickname message
[09:49] <ulisse> ## Uncomment the following two lines to fetch updated software from the network
[09:49] <ulisse> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary main restricted
[09:49] <ulisse> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary main restricted
[09:49] <ulisse> ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe'
[09:49] <ulisse> ## repository.
[09:49] <ulisse> ## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu
[09:49] <ulisse> ## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to
[09:49] <ulisse> ## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in
[09:49] <ulisse> ## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security
[09:49] <ulisse> ## team.
[09:49] <SiRrUs> hmmmm
[09:49] <ulisse> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary universe
[09:49] <bryan> umm
[09:49] <ulisse> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary universe
[09:49] <ulisse>  # deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary-security main restricted
[09:49] <bryan> nooo
[09:49] <ulisse> # deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary-security main restricted
[09:50] <ulisse> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary multiverse #
[09:50] <bryan> bad ulisse !
[09:50] <ulisse>  # deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary main restricted
[09:50] <ulisse>  #deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary multiverse #
[09:50] <ulisse> #deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main #Marillat
[09:50] <ulisse> #deb http://www.kiberpipa.org/~minmax/cinelerra/builds/athlonxp/ ./  #Cinelerra
[09:50] <Myrtti> noooooooooo
[09:50] <bryan> use www.pastebin.com next time
[09:50] <ulisse> bryan, what happened?
[09:50] <djg> deadcat: eth1 is the wired nic.  As far as I know, the system doesn't know anything about eth0, although it definitely recognised it on install.
[09:50] <ulisse> Don't tell me I posted everything to all!
[09:50] <bryan> you did
[09:50] <ulisse> Sorry!
[09:50] <Fator_Dee> well, accidents happen :-)
[09:50] <bryan> true
[09:51] <Loiosh> Ug
[09:51] <Loiosh> Worst... window manager.. ever
[09:51] <Fator_Dee> better screw up here than your kernel compile :-)
[09:51] <Lano> one more question: can I make autorun terminal window and irssi (example) an gnome startup?
[09:51] <ulisse> Very sorry... what is the right syntax?
[09:51] <Fator_Dee> ulisse: are you using irssi?
[09:51] <ulisse> no, xchat
[09:52] <bryan> Usage: MSG <nick> <message>, sends a private message
[09:52] <thoreauputic>  /msg works in xchat too
[09:52] <djg> Is there anyway I can detect hardware from scratch?
[09:52] <bryan> yeah
[09:52] <bryan>  /msg
[09:52] <Myrtti> better yet
[09:52] <Xappe> so noone knows the difference between the ppc kernels?
[09:52] <Myrtti> first /query nick
[09:52] <Myrtti> then message
[09:52] <bryan> ahh
[09:52] <bryan> yes
[09:53] <bryan>  /query opens a new tab, right?
[09:53] <Myrtti> yes
[09:53] <ulisse> I did like you said... what's wrong, so?
[09:53] <Myrtti> not /msg
[09:53] <DevDuck> how do I get past cdrecord's problems? It complains about not working on kernel 2.6+ then quits
[09:53] <jk> hmmz...how are these so-called 'profiles' in hoary's network-admin supposed to work?
[09:53] <Xira> Hi, I attempted installing Ubuntu Linux 4.10 a few days ago, but whenever X would start, my monitor would shut off. I installed Mandrake and didn't have this problem, does anyone know how to fix this? I would rather use Ubuntu
[09:53] <Myrtti> if you pipe the paste into msg, only first line will be put there, the rest on the active channel window or whatever
[09:53] <ulisse> ah, ok, let's try...
[09:54] <Fator_Dee> Lano: in warty, computer -> desktop -> sessions -> session options -> automagically save changes to session
[09:54] <bryan> i didn't think he'd be pasting 20 lines :p
[09:54] <thoreauputic> DevDuck:  cdrecord dev=/dev/hdc    (IIRC)
[09:54] <Coily> is it possible to access registry keys from a mounted windows partition?
[09:54] <Fator_Dee> Lano: and when you logout just leave the terminal open, though I don't know how to make it run irssi automagically, I just type "screen irssi"
[09:54] <bryan> i didn't have any problems with my cd/dvd burning
[09:55] <bryan> i'm burning a dvd right now, so happy my dvd burner worked without any problems
[09:55] <Coily> anyone?
[09:55] <DevDuck> thoreauputic, so if I'm using xcdroast I can alias cdrecord="cdrecord dev=/dev/hdb"
[09:55] <crypticreign> hmm, liferea keeps crashing, wont stay open for more than 20 seconds
[09:55] <DevDuck> bryan, what do you use to burn dvds?
[09:55] <Fator_Dee> bryan: what are you using to burn dvd's? just plain growisofs?
[09:55] <Fator_Dee> :-\
[09:56] <thoreauputic> DevDuck: I think you just point xcdroast at your device in the setup, from memory
[09:56] <Echylo> hello, question how do you UN-block somebody in gaim ?
[09:56] <Echylo> cause in my msn list somebody is blocked
[09:56] <Echylo> but I can't unblock him
[09:57] <DevDuck> thoreauputic, I did that and everything seems fine until I try to actually burn
[09:57] <Xira> Hi, I attempted installing Ubuntu Linux 4.10 a few days ago, but whenever X would start, my monitor would shut off. I installed Mandrake and didn't have this problem, does anyone know how to fix this? I would rather use Ubuntu
[09:57] <Echylo> use a lower resolution?
[09:57] <Xira> X would not boot period
[09:57] <thoreauputic> DevDuck: are you on warty? Have you tried gnomebaker?
[09:57] <Echylo> or the refresh rate isn't correct
[09:58] <Xira> When it tried to my monitor just shut off
[09:58] <Xira> I'm using an LCD pannel
[09:58] <jordanau> if i have the option to download a .tar or .tar.bz2 file, which should i choose? We are going for easiest installation.
[09:58] <Echylo> .tar
[09:58] <djg> Hi, I have centrino wireless and a wired ethernet connection, but ubuntu only detects the wired connection.  Is there anyway to 'detect' the centrino NIC as well?
[09:58] <thoreauputic> jordanau: the only real difference is the tar.bz2 will be a bit smaler
[09:58] <keyshawn2> tar, though its compression rate isn't as good as bz2
[09:58] <thoreauputic> *smaller
[09:59] <thoreauputic> ah, sorry, misread
[09:59] <thoreauputic> tar.gz > tar.bz2
[09:59] <jordanau> okay thanks, is there a good guide on installing files from tar, no apt-get or synaptic?
[10:00] <DevDuck> thoreauputic, I'm on hoary and I haven't tried anytihng outside of xcdroast yet
[10:00] <thoreauputic> jordanau: it depends - is it source code?
[10:00] <Fator_Dee> jordanau: ./configure && make && make install, or README file
[10:00] <Fator_Dee> i'd go for the README
[10:00] <LinuxJones> jordanau, what is the name of the program ?
[10:00] <jordanau> freeciv
[10:00] <jordanau> i want to get the updated version since it is multiplayer
[10:01] <jordanau> i apprectiate the advice
[10:01] <DevDuck> new multiplayer freeciv? I've been playing multiplayer for years
[10:01] <jk> rephrase... anyone noticed profiles in hoary's network-admin aren't saved?
[10:02] <jordanau> actually the latest stable version is what is in synaptic i will just download it
[10:04] <thoreauputic> DevDuck: some people have had good results with graveman or gnomebaker
[10:04] <ubuntu> hi
[10:04] <jordanau> final question, is it just me or is ryhthmbox's sound quality kinda low
[10:04] <DevDuck> ok, i'll try those
[10:04] <thoreauputic> DevDuck: re: CD burning
[10:04] <Xira> k guys
[10:04] <Xira> I'm going to delete my mdk partition and install Ubuntu
[10:04] <DevDuck> right now it seems like the error is "TAO not supported by this drive" I thought TAO was supported by all drives
[10:04] <DevDuck> grr
[10:04] <Xira> and see if I can get it to work
[10:04] <Xira> Wish me good luck
[10:04] <Xira> :)
[10:04] <ubuntu> good luck
[10:05] <jordanau> if i can do it you can
[10:05] <ubuntu> I've got a question, about playing a DVD with the Ubuntu LiveCD
[10:05] <ulisse> is there someone who can even try to help me with zlib and Celestia compiling, please?
[10:05] <spiral> ubuntu: libdvdcss is probably not included on the livecd
[10:05] <ubuntu> ok maybe this is totally stupid, but I just downloaded the gnome 2.10 LiveCD, which is actually ubuntu
[10:06] <ubuntu> but totem goves me an error when trying to play
[10:06] <DevDuck> is gnomebaker not in hoary?
[10:06] <thoreauputic> ulisse: for what it's worth, about a year ago I installed a celestia RPM using the `alien` utility on Debian Sarge, and it worked...
[10:06] <SiRrUs> DevDuck i dont think it is  Graveman is tho
[10:07] <DevDuck> SiRrUs, I'm installing graveman now
[10:07] <ubuntu> spiral: it says "failed to find mountpoint for device /dev/hdd in /etc/fstab
[10:07] <ubuntu> the mountpoint is not in there, but I added it manually, and still it gives me the error
[10:07] <spiral> ubuntu: why does he want to mount the dvd while using dvdplay ?
[10:08] <ulisse> thoreauputic, I've already tried, also with apt-get, but it crashes or makes the system hang...
[10:08] <Amaranth> "enter password for default keyring to unlock" so i put in my password and it comes up again (wrong password)
[10:08] <keyshawn2> hi.
[10:08] <ubuntu> spiral: don't ask me, I think they do not need to be mounted as a data DVD for playback, first time I try DVD on linux
[10:08] <neighborlee> is synatpic going to remain part of ubuntu ?..just wondering as upgrading to hoary removed it....
[10:08] <Coily> my knowledge of how reg keys in windows is limited: is there a way to access the keys with wine's regedit without first exporting a registry file in a windows environment?
[10:09] <spiral> neighborlee: conflictuous situation about libapt I think...
[10:09] <spiral> ubuntu: don't know, sorry...
[10:09] <neighborlee> spiral, ah ok
[10:09] <Coily> or is there a simpler method to access registry keys in linux
[10:09] <ubuntu> Coily: normally the reg files are located in \windows\config
[10:09] <Amaranth> oh, it's a different password
[10:09] <Amaranth> got it
[10:09] <DevDuck> hmm, that might be part of my problem... apparently it's hdd not hdb :)
[10:09] <ubuntu> Coily: or \windows\system\config\ or something
[10:09] <keyshawn2> i forget: does winxp use FAT or NTFS ? im trying to mount my win partition [i got directions from the ubuntu guide, so im god there] 
[10:09] <Coily> ubuntu, thanks
[10:10] <Bog1> anyone from the ubuntu security team here?
[10:10] <ubuntu> Coily: not sure if you can open them using wine
[10:10] <Coily> hm
[10:10] <thoreauputic> keyshawn2: could be either, depending on how it was installed
[10:10] <ubuntu> keyshawn2: normally NTFS but can also run FAT
[10:10] <keyshawn2> k
[10:10] <keyshawn2> thank you.
[10:10] <ubuntu> keyshawn2: first try using mount -t vfat if that failes try -t ntfs
[10:10] <Coily> ubuntu, ya it seems the fake drive c has worked against me
[10:11] <Coily> in that i cant get to /
[10:11] <keyshawn2> ubuntu: sudo first ?
[10:11] <ubuntu> Coily: is there a dir called windows on that fake c drive?
[10:11] <LordC> I can't burn CDs in Ubuntu :/ i am getting some OPC failure error :(
[10:11] <DevDuck> so graveman can't make movie dvds?
[10:11] <Coily> ubuntu, yes
[10:11] <LordC> Here is the error log from nautilous http://rafb.net/paste/results/Seldzd70.html
[10:12] <ubuntu> keyshawn2: depends on mount rights
[10:12] <ubuntu> Coily: can you locate the files I told you
[10:12] <ubuntu> anyone some tips for my DVD issue
[10:13] <Coily> ubuntu, im trying to access the keys from a mounted win partition, shouldve mentioned that
[10:13] <bryan> ubuntu:  i just burned a dvd without a problem
[10:13] <ubuntu> Coily: no, I think you can access the normal win registry files somewhere on c:\windows\config
[10:13] <ubuntu> Coily: these files are called CONFIG SYSTEM etc
[10:14] <ubuntu> Coily: if I remember right
[10:14] <Coily> ubuntu, looking
[10:14] <ubuntu> bryan: alright, but how about DVD movie playback, I am eager to go watch BlackAdder
[10:14] <bryan> ok
[10:14] <bryan> umm
[10:14] <Solatis> 3~wow
[10:14] <Solatis> ehrm
[10:14] <Solatis> wow
[10:15] <Solatis> the gnome 2.10 livecd is ubuntu ?
[10:15] <ubuntu> yes
[10:15] <Coily> ubuntu, im guessing i have to import the keys with wine first (its not there by default)
[10:15] <bryan> apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins
[10:15] <Solatis> they should note that a bit more prominent
[10:15] <ubuntu> I just downloaded it and are on it at this very moment, it is as far as I can see a hoary LiveCD or something
[10:15] <Coily> ubuntu, its ok ill just copy the files to the wine c drive
[10:16] <onslaught789> how can i get my cd drive mounted?
[10:16] <LordC> So any advice about cdrecord?
[10:16] <ubuntu> Coily: try that, I am not too familiar with that stuff, but on your normal real (not fake) c drive these files should exist
[10:16] <ben0ne> onslaught789, mount /media/cdrom0
[10:16] <onslaught789> ok thanks
[10:17] <ubuntu> anyone any clues about what to do with my Totem problem
[10:17] <bryan> ubuntu:  to watch dvd's, console cmd: apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins
[10:17] <ubuntu> first time I want to play a DVD in Linux
[10:17] <schweeb> dvd? you'll need dvdcss
[10:17] <bryan> watch the dvd in totem
[10:18] <ubuntu> thx
[10:18] <ben0ne> ubuntu, use gxine
[10:18] <ben0ne> :)
[10:18] <djg> Hi, I'm trying 'sudo ifup eth0' and get an error stating there is no such device.  How do I add this device?
[10:18] <schweeb> ben0ne: if he didn't install a dvd decoder, that still won't work
[10:18] <djg> It ought to be a centrino wireless card.
[10:18] <ben0ne> schweeb, u right
[10:18] <thoreauputic> djg: then it probably isn't eth0
[10:18] <ben0ne> djg, it probably wont be named eth0
[10:19] <djg> How do I find its name?
[10:19] <ben0ne> thoreauputic, hehehe
[10:19] <ben0ne> djg, ask thoreaputic :)
[10:19] <bryan> djg:  doesn't show anything when you just type 'ifconfig'
[10:19] <schweeb> ubuntu: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[10:20] <djg> It only shows the configuration for eth1 and lo. :(
[10:20] <thoreauputic> ben0ne: heh - what I know about wireless could be written on the back of a postage stamp
[10:20] <ubuntu> thx schweeb
[10:20] <schweeb> np
[10:20] <ubuntu> gonna look at it
[10:21] <djg> How should I go about adding a device that isn't automatically detected?
[10:21] <LordC> Ubuntu wont burn CDRs at all, not even ISOs, I have tried lots of software, even k3b
[10:22] <jeff_> can someone help me set up my ircd?
[10:22] <thoreauputic> djg: try cat /proc/devices
[10:22] <jeff_> it works when i try /server localhost
[10:22] <jeff_> but not when i do /server <ip address>
[10:22] <jeff_> and i added it to my firewall to allow connectins
[10:23] <EfaistOs> when hoary is coming out ?
[10:23] <thoreauputic> djg: also  lspci | less
[10:23] <DevDuck> omg! I'm burning a DVD! I haven't been this worried since my first CD... of course that's because CD-Rs cost $2+ then
[10:23] <DevDuck> graveman's working btw, thanks everyone
[10:24] <djg> It shows a 2200 BG NIC, but it ought to be 2100 AFAIK
[10:24] <Coily> whats the app that logs router info? it requires snmp, i know its in the default repositories
[10:24] <thoreauputic> djg: then google for the linux module for your device and then try to modprobe it
[10:25] <djg> Done
[10:25] <djg> modprobe ipw2100
[10:25] <djg> Returns on the next line.
[10:26] <thoreauputic> djg: silence is golden in *nix
[10:26] <thoreauputic> djg: if it didn't error, it loaded
[10:26] <thoreauputic> to make it load on boot, put it in /etc/modules
[10:27] <CarlK> I installed on a scsi only box - grub was happy. added an IDE, and the dumb box wants to boot from the IDE.  so I need to isntall grub on the IDE and have it use the menu and kernal that is on the scsi
[10:27] <CarlK> anyone know the grub command to do that?
[10:28] <djg> thoreauputic: Done, but I still can't detect the NIC :(
[10:28] <ubuntu> cya
[10:29] <johns^> CarlK: maybe grub-install /dev/hda
[10:29] <johns^> ?
[10:29] <bryan> whenever i uncomment these 2 lines in sources.list i get errors with apt/synaptic:
[10:29] <Blissex> CarlK: your assumptions are most likely incorrect. Check the BIOS of your box.
[10:29] <bryan> #deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted
[10:29] <bryan> #deb-src http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted
[10:29] <keyshawn2> not to be mean, but did you try 'man grub' ?
[10:29] <CarlK> Blissex - what assumtion?
[10:30] <Blissex> CarlK: I need to isntall grub on the IDE
[10:30] <schweeb> CarlK: tell the BIOS to boot off board ROMs first
[10:30] <CarlK> bios doen't have that option
[10:30] <bryan> anyone from Canada have a hoary sources.list they can email me?
[10:30] <schweeb> it might call them Option ROMs or external controllers or something like that
[10:30] <thoreauputic> bryan: you ran apt-get update after uncommenting them?
[10:30] <schweeb> it almost certainly does, CarlK
[10:31] <bryan> yeah
[10:31] <airox_> The ubuntu warty live cd has a kernel splash screen, could it be used for the normal ubuntu warty installation ??
[10:31] <CarlK> almost, yes.  really, no. ;)
[10:31] <bryan> and it gives errors
[10:31] <LordC> bryan, my GB one does the same
[10:31] <schweeb> CarlK: what kind of PC is this, and what BIOS does it have?
[10:32] <CarlK> compaq deskpro -
[10:32] <schweeb> CPU, chipset?
[10:32] <thoreauputic> bryan: "it gives errors" - such as what?
[10:32] <CarlK> at least it doesn't have the "diagnostic partition"
[10:32] <LordC> Ubuntu wont burn CDRs at all, not even ISOs, I have tried lots of software, even k3b - help :/
[10:32] <DevDuck> so now, while I'm waiting forever for this to burn, what tools would you guys use to take an xvid, convert it to dvd-mpg (mpg2?), then burn it to a dvd w/menus?
[10:32] <CarlK> P3-600, ill check the bios on the next boot
[10:33] <schweeb> Compaqs do have a rather shitty BIOS
[10:33] <DevDuck> LordC: you're not using scsi emulation are you?
[10:33] <LordC> I dont think so
[10:33] <schweeb> mine don't allow you to boot w/o a keyboard
[10:33] <LordC> I do have scsi hdds
[10:33] <schweeb> but lemme check real quick
[10:33] <LordC> But not the dvdrw
[10:33] <DevDuck> LordC: if you dont know then you aren't; that's the limit of my helpability though
[10:34] <DevDuck> LordC: did you try cdrecord dev=/dev/hdd theiso.iso ?
[10:34] <bryan> thoreauputic:  http://pastebin.com/251600
[10:34] <thoreauputic> bryan: OK looking
[10:35] <LordC> I'll try that now. I dont understand tho, as i have burnt an ISO last night
[10:35] <CarlKpx> dont suppose there is a command that will id the bios?
[10:35] <DevDuck> on ubuntu?
[10:35] <LordC> Yeah
[10:35] <LordC> nautilus gives me OPC failure - trying cdrecord now
[10:35] <DevDuck> did you update since then?
[10:35] <LordC> Yeah i did
[10:36] <DevDuck> cdrecord was new on the last update I did
[10:36] <LordC> Im on hoary
[10:36] <Fator_Dee> DevDuck: I use http://fredrik.hubbe.net/hacks/mkdvd.html and it works like a charm
[10:36] <DevDuck> me too, dont remember what else it did
[10:36] <DevDuck> Fator_Dee: thanks
[10:36] <Fator_Dee> DevDuck: just install the programs it saus to and run, you don't have to know anything :-)
[10:36] <LordC> cdrecord: OPC failed.
[10:36] <Xira> Okay
[10:37] <Fator_Dee> saus=says
[10:37] <DevDuck> Fator_Dee: perfect for me :)
[10:37] <Xira> I installed Ubuntu again
[10:37] <Xira> WIth its autodetection, my monitor shuts off when it trys to boot X
[10:37] <Xira> So I try to reconfigure it
[10:37] <DevDuck> LordC: we're way out of my knowledge now
[10:37] <Xira> Verify my monitor HF and VF
[10:37] <Xira> And it still shuts off
[10:37] <Xira> What do I do??
[10:37] <CarlKpx> boot off of live cd (knoppix), ran grub, am at a grub prompt.  does root(hd1,0) tell it where to find partition to boot from?
[10:37] <thoreauputic> bryan: odd - maybe they are uploading to those sources - maybe try again a bit later?
[10:37] <LordC> ok ty :/
[10:37] <CarlKpx> er, the part that has the menu and kernal images
[10:37] <Xira> Could anyone help me with getting Ubuntu to work?
[10:38] <schweeb> CarlK: there's nothing in Storage>Device Configuration or Boot Order... or in the Advanced menu?
[10:38] <[CX] -sw0rdSavy> an anyone help me out? I cannot get my ircd server to register outside of my local network!
[10:38] <CarlKpx> schweeb: Ill check on the next boot, when I am trying another grub attmpt
[10:38] <[CX] -sw0rdSavy> and i have all ports forwarding to my computer
[10:38] <Xira> COuld someone please help me getting Ubuntu to work?
[10:38] <Xira> My monitor just shuts off when it trys to boot X/Gnome
[10:39] <CarlKpx> so take a stab at how I can get grub to do it (takes a while to test - like 5 min
[10:39] <bryan> it's been doing it for a couple days
[10:39] <schweeb> Xira: it's probably selecting a resolution or refresh rate that's out of your scan range
[10:39] <thoreauputic> Xira: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
[10:39] <schweeb> so, try what thoreauputic said
[10:39] <Xira> thoreauputic: Did that.
[10:39] <Xira> Still.
[10:39] <schweeb> turn off every res except for 800x600 or something, Xira
[10:39] <Xira> Tried it.
[10:40] <thoreauputic> Xira: that command gives you options on warty - are you installing hoary?
[10:40] <Xira> nope
[10:40] <Xira> 4.10
[10:40] <thoreauputic> Xira: did you hand-edit  XF86Config-4 ?
[10:40] <Xira> havent tried that yet =/
[10:40] <Xira> Sounds like a pain in the ass
[10:41] <Xira> I have my monitor manual right here
[10:41] <thoreauputic> Xira: dpkg-reconfigure is the right way
[10:41] <Xira> the horiz freq and vertical ffreq were in proper range
[10:41] <Xira> thoreauputic: I already said I did that
[10:41] <DevDuck> must be onimonipeia then, because it is a pain in the ass :)
[10:41] <Slaven> any acceptable gtk2 msn clients with support for selecting your own picture out there?
[10:41] <Xira> This is frustrating
[10:41] <Xira> Mandrake handles it no problem
[10:42] <LordC> Does anyone know what "cdrecord OPC failed." means? :/ I can't burn CDs, and thats the error it gives me (http://rafb.net/paste/results/OpdYnZ65.html)
[10:42] <DevDuck> Slaven: gaim?
[10:42] <thoreauputic> Xira: I'm aware of that - I was about to say if you hand edit, the command won't work  any more
[10:42] <Xira> I dunno wtf I'm supposed to try now
[10:42] <Slaven> DevDuck: You can't have your own picture in gaim, can you?
[10:42] <Slaven> in that case I missed it :S
[10:42] <Slaven> and that would've been embarrasing
[10:42] <DevDuck> Slaven: I do on the AIM side but i dont use msn
[10:43] <Xira> This is the second time trying to install Ubuntu
[10:43] <Xira> And I'm getting the same error
[10:43] <Xira> :|
[10:43] <Slaven> what's that?
[10:43] <thoreauputic> Xira: possibly run dmesg and see what erors it has about the X config
[10:43] <Fator_Dee> Xira: well, do you have a spare monitor? or your friends?
[10:43] <Xira> Monitor turns off when gnome/x boots
[10:43] <QMario> Hello everyone!
[10:43] <Xira> Fator_Dee: not an option i want to take
[10:43] <yaaar> if i'm going from warty to hoary, do i need to do anything special with the kernel upgrade, or will dist-upgrade just handle that for me?
[10:44] <Fator_Dee> yes, maybe not
[10:44] <Xira> If it isn't going to work with this monitor, I'll use another distro that does
[10:44] <DevDuck> Slaven: when I use gaim for AIM I have my picture set up; I've never used it for msn so I can't guarantee the same functionality
[10:44] <snoop_> qmario: hello!
[10:44] <Xira> ie Mandrake
[10:44] <Xira> mdk autodetects it flawlessly
[10:44] <Xira> :|
[10:44] <thoreauputic> Xira: fair enough - Mandrake is a nice distro - go for it
[10:44] <Xira> Sigh
[10:44] <Xira> I just delete my mdk partition for ubuntu
[10:44] <Slaven> DevDuck: No, I'm using gaim and haven't found any preferences of that kind.
[10:44] <Xira> d
[10:44] <Slaven> Well, it doesn't have to be gtk2.
[10:44] <DevDuck> Slaven, oh
[10:44] <Xira> I'm just not going to stop
[10:44] <Xira> I want this to work
[10:44] <Xira> It's extremely frustrating
[10:44] <Slaven> could be qt
[10:44] <DevDuck> mandrake isn't that nice
[10:45] <thoreauputic> DevDuck: matter of taste :)
[10:45] <Fator_Dee> yep, rpm-dependency-hell is not nice
[10:45] <jordanau> how many processes is normal after typing pstree? about 30?
[10:45] <Xira> at least it detects my monitor =/
[10:45] <DevDuck> thoreauputic: it's nicer than the rpm hell it's based on, but compared to ubuntu/debian...
[10:45] <thoreauputic> DevDuck: I prefer Debian/Ubuntu, but some like mandrake
[10:45] <Xira> Anyone have any ideas on how to get my monitor to stop shutting off when x/gnome boots in Ubuntu? =/
[10:46] <CarlK> bios boot options: HD, flop, CD, Ethernet.  no options to tell it which HD
[10:46] <thoreauputic> DevDuck: urpmi isn't bad
[10:46] <apokryphos> it's just not as good as apt with these repos
[10:46] <Xira> :(
[10:46] <DevDuck> I agree that as far as mandrake goes it's not bad, just not as good
[10:46] <Xira> so no one can help me? I should just give up?
[10:46] <Fator_Dee> Xira: have you tried posting to the forums?
[10:47] <Xira> No
[10:47] <DevDuck> Xira; did you try to compare the config file mandrake makes with the one ubuntu makes?
[10:47] <apokryphos> What's the problem?
[10:47] <thoreauputic> Xira: if you have the patience, someone might have further suggestions
[10:47] <Xira> DevDuck: I had to delete my mdk partition to install Ubuntu
[10:47] <Xira> :/
[10:47] <DevDuck> right shoulda guessed that
[10:47] <thoreauputic> Xira: do you have a live CD that "works" ?
[10:48] <Xira> thoreauputic: sigh.. already suggested, to make al ong story short, isnt going to help
[10:48] <thoreauputic> if so, copy the XF86Config-4
[10:48] <yaaar> Xira: the fastest way if this is a new ubuntu install is probably to reinstall mdk, save the xorg.conf someplace, then install ubuntu, then copy the important parts of xorg.conf (or the whole thing)
[10:48] <Xira> If I install MDK again I'm going to forget about Ubuntu
[10:48] <Xira> :|
[10:48] <Fator_Dee> no you are not
[10:48] <yaaar> Xira: i know it doesn't help much now, but for the future, if you have X working well in a distro and you want to switch to a different one (or even a newer release of the one you're using) *always* save the X config file
[10:49] <thoreauputic> Xira: the live CD idea isn't viable why, if you don't mind elucidating?
[10:49] <DevDuck> gotta go, thnx everyone
[10:49] <yaaar> Xira: well, you know, it's not really any skin off our backs if you don't come back to ubuntu....it'll be you that lacks the niceties of the distro.
[10:50] <Xira> thoreauputic: I'm on a Dell Dimension 4550 with 1gb of RAM and a 9800 Pro, livecds (esp knoppix) cause a bug where my mobo dies unless I power cycle it for 10 seconds
[10:50] <veristead> DAMN HACKERS,
[10:50] <veristead> I HATE ALL OF THEM
[10:50] <CarlK> schweeb - I cou;nt really see a bios name - closest was "compaq computer config setup screen" or something
[10:50] <veristead> they are criminals
[10:50] <veristead> CRIMINALS I TELL YOU
[10:50] <veristead> jp
[10:50] <Slaven> wanna talk about it? ;)
[10:50] <thoreauputic> veristead: you have a misconception of the term "hacker"
[10:51] <veristead> i am kidding
[10:51] <Xira> I wish I had more CDRs, I'd try out FC3
[10:51] <veristead> hence the jp
[10:51] <snoop_> veristead: you mean cracker?
[10:51] <veristead> i am making a sarcastic remark based on recent news headlines
[10:51] <snoop_> veristead: which one would that be?
[10:52] <onslaught789> can anyone tell me how i can mount my cd drive/
[10:52] <onslaught789> i have 2 cd drives one is mounted the other is not
[10:52] <_ale> mount /dev/cdrom?
[10:52] <veristead> the one about MIT, Harvard, and Stanford (and some other schools) being hacked to see if they were accepeted
[10:52] <onslaught789> it didnt work
[10:52] <HrdwrBoB> onslaught789: right click on the drive
[10:52] <snoop_> veristead: ah, i remember seeing that one..
[10:52] <HrdwrBoB> click 'mount'
[10:52] <veristead> yep
[10:52] <onslaught789> it doesnt show up there
[10:53] <onslaught789> but in device manager it does
[10:53] <veristead> DYSLEXICS UNTIE
[10:53] <veristead> oops
[10:53] <veristead> i mean UNITE
[10:53] <hsoj> Hi, i just installed ubuntu and it can't start X. i get an error saying that no devices were detected and that no screens were found. I have a p4 2.8 in an abit 875p board with a geforce6800 and audigy 2.
[10:53] <Blissex> hsoj: thanks for letting us know :-)
[10:53] <veristead> lol
[10:53] <thoreauputic> veristead: no, the dyslexic spelling was right and we got it the first time :)
[10:54] <hsoj> anyone wanna help? heh.
[10:54] <Blissex> hsoj: probably :-)
[10:54] <hsoj> lol... this is why i love irc.
[10:54] <HrdwrBoB> hsoj: hm.. warty may not have known about your card when it was released
[10:54] <Blissex> hsoj: statements, ''doesn work'', 'anyone can help'' questions are usually a joke.
[10:54] <HrdwrBoB> hsoj: you can manually configure it to 'nv'
[10:54] <veristead> how many ADD kids does it take to screw in a light bulb?
[10:54] <HrdwrBoB> or you can try hoary
[10:54] <HrdwrBoB> guys can we keep it on topic?
[10:55] <thoreauputic> onslaught789: this sounds obvious so forgive me - you aren't trying to mount audio CDs, are you?
[10:55] <hsoj> isn't hoary not supposed to be out for another month or so?
[10:55] <Fator_Dee> hsoj: next month
[10:55] <veristead> how many ADD kids does it take to screw in a light bulb?
[10:55] <yaaar> hsoj: i'm upgrading to it right now......hopefully
[10:55] <HrdwrBoB> that's right, however you can run the current release of it
[10:56] <hsoj> how would i go about upgrading?
[10:56] <HrdwrBoB> and then upgrade to stable hoary when it comes out
[10:56] <veristead> DAMN IT
[10:56] <veristead> dnt kill the jokes
[10:56] <HrdwrBoB> you can either grab the CD
[10:56] <_ale> veristead: how many?
[10:56] <yaaar> hsoj: so, this is a brand-new warty install, and X won't load?
[10:56] <HrdwrBoB> nad then put it in, it'll alutomatically detect it
[10:56] <hsoj> yaaar, yes
[10:56] <veristead> you wanna go ride bikes?
[10:56] <HrdwrBoB> or you can grab all the updates off the net
[10:57] <hsoj> in my XFree86.0.log file it doesn't list my graphics card as being in the driver that was bundled in...
[10:57] <HrdwrBoB> hsoj: if you use the nvidia binary driver it should work
[10:57] <Bauhn> anyone who knows if it secure to install ubuntu when i have windows installed and don't want to remove it?
[10:57] <HrdwrBoB> Bauhn: yes, that's fine
[10:57] <yaaar> hsoj: if I was doing it, before I tried messing with anything else, I'd go down to http://ubuntuguide.org and follow the directions for "installing the nvidia drivers"
[10:57] <Win32> how do you delete files in terminal?
[10:58] <Neil3> mm this gnome 2.10 live cd is awesome guys
[10:58] <hsoj> ah.. didn't go there... tried the forums and then here.
[10:58] <yaaar> hsoj: if you've got a problem with your video modules or something that would just neatly sidestep it
[10:58] <_ale> Win32: rm
[10:58] <hsoj> thanks for the link
[10:58] <Bauhn> HrdwrBoB ace ;D
[10:58] <thoreauputic> Win32: rm file
[10:58] <yaaar> hsoj: yeah, that site is actually really cool; there's all kinds of stuff there that is really handy
[10:58] <Win32> ok
[10:58] <Win32> how do I delete directories>
[10:59] <thoreauputic> rmdir
[10:59] <_ale> rm -r dir
[10:59] <snoop_> Neil3: how's the memory usage? better?
[10:59] <Neil3> the whole thing feels faster
[10:59] <snoop_> Neil3: awesome....
[10:59] <Neil3> i'll check mem usage
[10:59] <thoreauputic> Win32: if they have files in them, rm -r <dir> as _ale says
[11:00] <hsoj> is ubuntuguide.org down? or is my network connection being flakey?
[11:00] <_ale> what irc client you guys use in ubuntu?
[11:00] <Neil3> its hard to tell mem usage cos this is a live cd
[11:00] <Neil3> _ale, xchat
[11:00] <thoreauputic> _ale: xchat or irssi
[11:01] <_ale> xchat is installed by default?
[11:01] <Neil3> sh: mem: command not found
[11:01] <Neil3> oops
[11:01] <thoreauputic> _ale: yes
[11:01] <Neil3>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[11:01] <Neil3> Mem:           504        500          3          0         36        355
[11:01] <Neil3> -/+ buffers/cache:        107        396
[11:01] <Neil3> Swap:          486          0        486
[11:01] <SiRrUs> hsoj looks like its down
[11:01] <Win32> thanks guys, rm -r dir <dir> works for me, files or not
[11:02] <HrdwrBoB> Win32: yes, be careful wacing that around ;)
[11:02] <thoreauputic> Win32: yep, rmdir is just for removeing an empty one
[11:02] <Neil3> they finally replaced nasty esd with polypaudio
[11:02] <Neil3> much better
[11:02] <snoop_> Neil3: hmm...cool
[11:02] <HrdwrBoB> Neil3: actually esd is retained for hoary
[11:02] <HrdwrBoB> you can install polypaudio if you want though
[11:02] <K-Rich> hey all i just noticed something odd on my warty box... i have not only /dev but i have /.dev (which has more items in it) what's with that ?
[11:02] <[FiDO] > does anyone know how to get quicktime working in firefox
[11:02] <_ale> it's nice to make a typo while using rm -r
[11:02] <hsoj> how to i upgrade to hoary then?
[11:03] <farruinn> K-Rich: taht was on ubuntu-users a while ago... I can't remember the explanation though
[11:03] <K-Rich> farruinn: the forums or elsewhere? got the url, i'll search
[11:04] <cocol> apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:04] <HrdwrBoB> The udev package is used to create a dynamic /dev. To do this, it mounts
[11:04] <HrdwrBoB> a memory filesystem (tmpfs) over /dev. The original /dev on the disk is
[11:04] <HrdwrBoB> redirected to /.dev .
[11:04] <HrdwrBoB> You can remove /.dev if you want. The way to do this is to unmount /.dev
[11:04] <HrdwrBoB> and remove the .dev directory (which will be empty after it is
[11:04] <HrdwrBoB> unmounted).
[11:04] <farruinn> K-Rich: yeah, ubuntuforums has a mirror of the list that you could probably search
[11:04] <yaaar> hsoj: yes, unfortunately it *does* look like ubuntuguide.org is down. i've still got it up on my machine, but i can't load it on this other one. odd.
[11:05] <kirt> Awww.  The preview is delayed until tomorrow. :(
[11:05] <SiRrUs> kirt how did you find that out
[11:05] <[FiDO] > what preview
[11:05] <farruinn> kirt: erm, today is Thursday...
[11:05] <snoop_> hsoj: try this for more help http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HoaryUpgradeNotes/view?searchterm=upgrade%20to%20hoary
[11:05] <yaaar> hsoj: if you really want to try out hoary, just edit /etc/apt/sources.list and change each instance of "warty" to "hoary" ...then run (as root) 'apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade'
[11:05] <K-Rich> HrdwrBoB: so it's not really needed then ?
[11:05] <kirt> The devel mailing list
[11:05] <SiRrUs> farruinn today is wednesday :)
[11:06] <HrdwrBoB> K-Rich: essentially it's a 'just in case' udev screws up
[11:06] <hsoj> yaaar, is hoary fairly stable?
[11:06] <farruinn> kirt: ignore me, I'm very confused
[11:06] <yaaar> hsoj: i have no idea; this upgrade i'm in the middle of will be my first experience.
[11:06] <mlambie> I'm in Perth, Western Australia... and it's Thursday ;)
[11:06] <hsoj> yaaar, ok. thanks :)
[11:06] <thoreauputic> SiRrUs: well, that depends... ;)
[11:06] <SiRrUs> thoreauputic ssshhhhhh
[11:06] <K-Rich> HrdwrBoB: well, seems something might be amiss, there is no sequencer in /dev though it is in /.dev
[11:07] <yaaar> does anybody know kind of a tentative date on hoary going official?
[11:07] <Tuxadermist> Never
[11:07] <Tuxadermist> :)
[11:07] <yaaar> hehe
[11:07] <thoreauputic> yaaar: april 1st
[11:07] <yaaar> kew
[11:07] <yaaar> l
[11:07] <cocol> 5 april
[11:07] <snoop_> later all
[11:07] <malte`> actually it's 6th
[11:08] <SiRrUs> cocol 5 april ?
[11:08] <thoreauputic> cocol: aww... don't spoil the joke...
[11:08] <yaaar> what, are we starting a pool? i've got 4/7!
[11:08] <cocol> :)
[11:08] <malte`> lol
[11:09] <thoreauputic> yaaar: about the same time as Longhorn and Duke-Nukem-Forever
[11:10] <yaaar> thoreauputic: long in the tooth?
[11:10] <punkass> is there a way to access a mounted windows share via command line?
[11:10] <HrdwrBoB> K-Rich: yes because /.dev is the directory with all devices already made
[11:10] <Win32> how do i fix?
[11:10] <HrdwrBoB> K-Rich: the likelihood is you don't HAVE a sequencer
[11:10] <Win32> Errors were encountered while processing:
[11:10] <Win32>  postfix
[11:10] <Win32>  at
[11:10] <Win32>  ubuntu-base
[11:10] <Win32>  postfix-tls
[11:10] <Tuxadermist> this little kde version is fun
[11:10] <hawke> thoreauputic: so it should be well before debian Sarge?
[11:10] <punkass> one that has been mounted via gnomes vfs
[11:10] <HrdwrBoB> K-Rich: and udev hasn't created the device
[11:10] <cocol> iam a happy man...now with gnome2.10 and kdebase+multimedia
[11:11] <cocol> kde3.4
[11:11] <thoreauputic> hawke: yeah, looking that way :(
[11:11] <critter> I cant get wine to install any help?
[11:11] <hawke> critter: Liquor store?
[11:11] <hawke> (har, har)
[11:11] <critter> Haha
[11:11] <HrdwrBoB> Win32: apt-get -f install
[11:11] <HrdwrBoB> then
[11:12] <thoreauputic> *boom boom*
[11:12] <HrdwrBoB> if there is still an error
[11:12] <HrdwrBoB> paste it to pastebin.com or similar
[11:12] <HrdwrBoB> critter: sudo apt-get install wine
[11:12] <critter> Ok will try
[11:12] <HrdwrBoB> assuming you have the universe repository enabled
[11:12] <McClane> hey
[11:12] <critter> yes I do
[11:12] <HrdwrBoB> ok cool
[11:13] <hsoj> if i enable the universe repository, i'll want to change the warty to hoary if i'm upgrading to hoary right?
[11:13] <HrdwrBoB> hsoj: correct
[11:13] <Win32> HrdwrBoB, still get error
[11:13] <HrdwrBoB> Win32: paste it in that site and then paste the url
[11:13] <critter> WOrked
[11:14] <thoreauputic> Win32: you ran sudo apt-get update (or "reload " from synaptic) ?
[11:14] <critter> HrdweBob Thanks
[11:15] <Win32> http://pastebin.com/251688
[11:15] <Win32> its whenever I do it
[11:15] <HrdwrBoB> critter: no problem :)
[11:16] <HrdwrBoB> Win32: run sudo /etc/init.d/postfix stop
[11:16] <critter> I dont guess the graphic version will work with Ubunta wouldn't d/l wine tools
[11:16] <HrdwrBoB> then run that again
[11:16] <HrdwrBoB> see how you go
[11:16] <HrdwrBoB> critter: what do you mean?
[11:17] <Win32> HrdwrBoB, it now says E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[11:17] <Win32> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[11:17] <critter> WHen I added the new url from wine in the SPM It listed wine tools but said it wouldnt d/l it
[11:18] <HrdwrBoB> Win32: did you run it with sudo?
[11:18] <Win32> yea
[11:18] <thoreauputic> Win32: you have two apt processes running
[11:18] <thoreauputic> Win32: close synaptic or the other terminal or whatever
[11:18] <jmob> Win32: run ``pgrep apt-get''
[11:19] <jmob> Win32: kill `pgrep apt-get`
[11:19] <Win32> aight
[11:20] <Win32> thoreauputic, I forgot about the shynaptic, it was minizmized, didn't see it
[11:20] <thoreauputic> Win32: common thing - happens a lot :)
[11:20] <thoreauputic> Win32: next time you know, so it won't be a problem
[11:21] <Win32> thoreauputic, yea ecspecioally if you use window selector instead of window list
[11:21] <Win32> well thanks
[11:21] <thoreauputic> why did he leave?
[11:22] <critter> This is the message I get when I try to Install Wine tools graphic interface
[11:22] <critter> winetools:
[11:22] <critter>  Depends: xdialog but it is not installable
[11:23] <thoreauputic> xdialog is in universe - what happens if you try to install xdialog by itself?
[11:24] <critter> I havent :-)
[11:24] <critter> BRB :-)
[11:24] <thoreauputic> critter: that's not what I asked, is it?
[11:24] <Mithsir> Hello! I just upgraded my debian unstable to ubuntu hoary. Everything worked fine. but the amarok musik player doesn't work... can anyone help?
[11:25] <critter> I havent tried to install xdialog
[11:25] <ermo> Could someone help me confirm a python 2.4 issue?
[11:25] <thoreauputic> Mithsir: "doesn't work" is such a common error message... ;)
[11:25] <thoreauputic> critter: did it occur to you i was suggesting youtry doing so and report the error?
[11:26] <viper12> Mithsir.... thoreauputic beat me to it......but a thought: amarok depends on kde stuff.......was your kde base and such in place?
[11:26] <Mithsir> ok here the error messsage that I think actually means something (amarok spites out lots of messages): "amarok:   [aRts-Engine]  [ERROR!]  Cannot initialize PlayObject! Skipping this track."
[11:26] <Mithsir> I believe my kde works fine (I use kde, not gnome, right now)
[11:26] <jason__> hi everyone
[11:27] <viper12> sounds like you've got sound driver issues there. (ubuntu is defaulting to the esd (polyp stuff)......have you changed the multimedia 'sinks' to point to arts?
[11:27] <snoop_> jason__:hi
[11:27] <viper12> and oh, hey there thoreauputic
[11:27] <Mithsir> well, xmms works (with the arts output plugin)...
[11:27] <critter> Dam maybe I dont have universe enabled .. I searched for xdialog . And its not there
[11:27] <viper12> not what i asked Mithsir
[11:28] <Mithsir> viper12, what are MM sinks??
[11:28] <thoreauputic> critter: well, it's in universe
[11:28] <Alessio>  if i make a dist-upgrade.. i get gnome 2.10, right?
[11:28] <thoreauputic> critter: that's why I asked...
[11:28] <jason__> i have a slight problem here...i have two hdds, and i had xp pro on them both. last night, i put ubuntu on this hdd as a master drive, leaving xp as my slave drive.  when i boot up, and grub has the two choices of linus and xp, linux boots fine, but xp does not.
[11:28] <viper12> Mithsir,  System>Preferences> Multimedia selector.
[11:29] <HrdwrBoB> how does it 'not'
[11:29] <Mithsir> viper12, err, I'm using kde, how do I get to that here?
[11:29] <jason__> it displays an error message...to paraphrase, it says 'cannot understand mounted drive"
[11:30] <critter> thoreeauputic going to read up on how to enable it now ...
[11:30] <snoop_> jason__ : not sure about this, but i believe you have to make a change to grub....
[11:30] <jason__> snoop: i am using grub right now
[11:30] <Mithsir> viper12, should I install configlets (afai understand, those dialogs are called configlets?)?
[11:30] <qwm> where can i obtain boot floppy images for ubuntu?
[11:30] <thoreauputic> critter: easiest is in synaptic, settings, repositories - just tick all the boxes
[11:30] <viper12> welp......... Mithsir you said you'd upgraded to hoary.  KDE isn't a default part of that.  I'm describing what comes with hoary.......there is another 'branch' called KUbuntu that has more direct KDE support.
[11:31] <snoop_> jason__: can you boot into xp? or just problems booting in?
[11:31] <jason__> snoop, i cannot boot up into xp at all
[11:31] <ermo> Could anyone with hoary start an interactive python 2.4 session and check if the  'profile' module is included? (type 'help()' at the 1st prompt, then 'modules' at the help prompt)
[11:32] <Mithsir> viper12, well, what I actually use hoary, but not the ubuntu-desktop packet...
[11:32] <snoop_> jason__: see this http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/WindowsDualBootHowTo/view?searchterm=install%20xp%20and%20ubuntu
[11:33] <jason__> snoop, thx
[11:33] <viper12> the development of 'hoary' is Gnome centric Mithsir, and you indicated you did a dist-upgrade to hoary from debian.......and you're not using the 'default' WM, so you may have a whole mess o
[11:33] <viper12> worms causing problems.
[11:33] <snoop_> jason__: no prob...got to go now...hope it works...
[11:33] <viper12> or just something as simple as an out of date lib file.
[11:34] <snoop_> later all..
[11:34] <Mithsir> viper12, hmm. so It's not possible to use kde with ubuntu?
[11:35] <qwm> where can i obtain floppy boot images for ubuntu?
[11:35] <ermo> Mithsir, you use hoary. Could you doublecheck my python issue?
[11:35] <Riddell> Mithsir: yes you can install kde
[11:35] <viper12> didn't say that Mith.  I have KDE installed as an 'alternative' manager for testing and it works fine'.
[11:35] <ermo> Mithsir, (it will only take 1-2 minutes)
[11:36] <Mithsir> ermo, what do I have to do?
[11:36] <thoreauputic> ermo: his hoary install will be atypical if upgraded from Debian
[11:36] <viper12> I said you moved from deb to a development version of ubuntu and are using stuff that isn't "standard" to that install.  its possible one of the libs got munched, any number of things.
[11:36] <Mithsir> viper12, so I should install gnome also?
[11:36] <ermo> Mithsir, never mind then.
[11:36] <ermo> thoreauputic, could you perhaps spare a minute then?
[11:36] <Mithsir> ermo, I already have a python shell open...
[11:37] <ermo> Mithsir, ok. type help()
[11:37] <critter> thoreauputic Thanks a load.. Got both of them now wine tools and xdialog
[11:37] <thoreauputic> ermo: I would, but I'm on Warty, sorry
[11:37] <ermo> thoreauputic, ok. thx anyway.
[11:37] <thoreauputic> critter: ah, good :)
[11:37] <ermo> Mithsir, ok  so far?
[11:37] <Mithsir> ermo, there is no profile module.
[11:37] <ermo> Mithsir, really?
[11:38] <ermo> Mithsir, then it's a bug. 'cause it's supposed to be there
[11:38] <ermo> Mithsir, what ubuntu-python-package do you have?
[11:38] <mlambie> it's taking ages to burn a DVD, is there a tool to test burn speeds?
[11:38] <mlambie> and, can I use hdparm to turn DMA on a DVD-RAM?
[11:39] <qwm> no-one knows if they even exist?
[11:39] <ermo> Mithsir, I have Python 2.4.1a0 (#2, Mar  1 2005, 15:45:39)
[11:40] <thoreauputic> qwm: did you want a "boot floppy" or a floppy nt install disc?
[11:40] <thoreauputic> *net
[11:40] <Mithsir> ermo, cant tell, my apt is just downloading stuff...
[11:40] <qwm> thoreauputic: boot floppy that can load the cdrom..
[11:41] <thoreauputic> qwm: if you just want a boot floppy, the command is mkboot
[11:41] <demi_> lo :)
[11:41] <thoreauputic> qwm: if you want a floppy that can do most things, google for toms root boot
[11:42] <ermo> Mithsir, try quitting the interactive session and start a python -V
[11:42] <Xappe> cool, new art work for Hoary
[11:42] <ermo> Mithsir, (your assistance is much appreciated)
[11:42] <Copons> I was wondering wehen will hoary preview be released?
[11:42] <schweeb> Copons: tomorrow
[11:42] <schweeb> it got delayed due to a kernel issue
[11:43] <Copons> okay, schweeb thanks.
[11:43] <cafuego_> Mind you, it runs just fine right now too.
[11:43] <Mithsir> ermo, Python 2.4.1a0
[11:44] <viper12> welp have fun...off to reboot land to test some changes. :)
[11:44] <ermo> Mithsir, so it would seem that 2.4.1a0 got packaged without the 'profile' module
[11:44] <error_29> Xappe, I kind of like the new art work too, but i can't understand why the removed the old wallpaper.
[11:44] <ermo> Mithsir, thx for you help.
[11:44] <error_29> wish they'd try some other colors besides brown, too
[11:46] <Mithsir> I solved the amarok issue: I installed akode-mpeg
[11:46] <Kirsch> hey guys, hwo can u upgrade to Gnome 2.10?
[11:47] <Copons> wasn't Open Office 2.0 going to be in hoary?
[11:47] <elTigre> hi! A usb card reader should open a folder when plugged in, right? I can't get it to work (hoary)
[11:47] <thoreauputic> Kirsch: gnome 2.10 is now in Hoary
[11:47] <hsoj> yaaar, how's the update goin?
[11:47] <subliminaki> hi!
[11:48] <Nermal> Copons: it is
[11:48] <Nermal> apt-get install openoffice.org2
[11:48] <cocol> kirsch, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:48] <subliminaki> how can i modify the applications menu in gnome? In order to add another section for example
[11:49] <elTigre> hi! A usb card reader should open a folder when plugged in, right? I can't get it to work (hoary)
[11:49] <yaaar> hsoj: done!
[11:49] <Copons> Nermal, i was reading the hoary release announcement draft and it says it ships with OO 1.1.3
[11:49] <hsoj> yaaar, mine just finished as well
[11:49] <yaaar> hsoj: seems to be working fine....no major changes except maybe to the layout
[11:49] <CarlKKpx> i mounted / and /boot and chrooted, did # grub-install /dev/hda; /dev/hda does not have any corresponding BIOS drive;   now what do I do?
[11:50] <yaaar> hsoj: now i'm working on installing asterisk, which is why i upgraded
[11:50] <ShadowRage> moo
[11:50] <ShadowRage> any way that ubuntu PPC will work with an old world mac? (eg, getting a small boot image to run the installer, etc?
[11:51] <Nermal> Copons: comes with both I guess
[11:51] <ganante> hello, visit my website - http://decio_ganante.web.simplesnet.pt
[11:51] <hsoj> yaaar, oooh... pbx niftyness :)
[11:51] <ShadowRage> hello?
[11:52] <nu2ubuntu> hello
[11:52] <thoreauputic> ShadowRage: my guess is, nobody has an answer
[11:52] <thoreauputic> at least,  not yet ( after2minutes?)
[11:53] <ShadowRage> well, will it work on a 120 mhz ppc?
[11:53] <ShadowRage> powermac 8500/120
[11:53] <thoreauputic> ShadowRage: a good guess would be "no"
[11:53] <ermo> I'm somewhat daunted by the ubuntu bugzilla - anyone care to walk me through submitting a proper bug-report?
[11:53] <nico2012> hi all
[11:54] <nu2ubuntu> I have a dvd with files on it that I put into my drive in order to see if totem would play the media I have on there and now it won't eject the disc.  Is there anything I can do about this short of turning off my pc and manually ejecting it?
[11:54] <hsoj> are there any things that i should apt-get that I can't live without?
[11:54] <nico2012> just here to ask a little question : I've upgraded my hoary five minutes ago and, surprise ( bad surprise ) my ubuntu human theme seems to be broken
[11:55] <mlambie> nu2ubuntu: is the disc mounted? try right-clicking on the CD icon and unmounting it
[11:55] <nico2012> have anyone experienced this ? :s
[11:55] <thoreauputic> hsoj: yeah, xpenguins ;)
[11:55] <hsoj> :)
[11:55] <farruinn> nico2012: it was on the ubuntu-devel mailing list, I think you need to install the clearlooks engine
[11:56] <error_29> hsoj, xine if you love movies
[11:56] <nu2ubuntu> mlambie: no the disc is not mounted.  I tried right clicking and clicking eject and it gave me an error.  Afte the error, the disc was unmounted.  I tried remounting and ejecting again with the same result.
[11:56] <Mithsir> Is there an easy way to setup my keyboards multimedia keys?
[11:56] <nico2012> ow ok farruin i'll go read this thanks
[11:56] <nico2012> i'll done the update first
[11:56] <farruinn> nico2012: gtk2-engines-clearlooks
[11:56] <Fator_Dee> Mithsir: there was a howto about it on the forums
[11:57] <ermo> ShadowRage, that machine is fairly low spec. Even if you *could* install ubuntu, the question to ask is probably 'should you?'
[11:57] <Blissex> Mithsir: depends what you mean by that, but ask in #Gnome about key shortcuts...
[11:57] <error_29> hey, has anyone actually used the "hibernate'' option in hoary?  Does it really work?  All it does for me is lock the screen.
[11:57] <ShadowRage> ermo: it isnt that bad off
[11:57] <ShadowRage> I run debian on it
[11:57] <ShadowRage> no X yet
[11:57] <mlambie> error_29: I have a thinkpad R40 and it works fine for me
[11:58] <subliminaki> How i edit the applications menu????
[11:58] <mlambie> error_29: i installed hoary fresh rather than dost-upgrading though, which meant that my swap space was large enough.
[11:58] <thoreauputic> ShadowRage: I'd be inclined to stick with debian, since you have it working
[11:58] <error_29> mlambie, does "hibernate" mean what it does in, say, WinXp -- system shuts down, after saving the current state to the hard drive
[11:58] <mlambie> error_29: yeah
[11:59] <error_29> ah hah!  of course, the swap...
[11:59] <ermo> ShadowRage, actually, I was about to suggest you try debian - but ...
[11:59] <error_29> doh!
[11:59] <ShadowRage> k
[11:59] <error_29> like an idiot, I was thinking it would create  a temp folder in /
[11:59] <mlambie> error_29: you need to pass the swap partition into the kernel as a boot option. it's on the powermanagment howto :)
[11:59] <thoreauputic> subliminaki: are you using warty?
[12:00] <subliminaki> i'm using hoary