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viper12so....anyone awake in here?12:14
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zulchuck@homer:~$ sudo modprobe nvidia12:16
zulFATAL: Error inserting nvidia (/lib/modules/2.6.10-4-686/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia.ko): Invalid module format12:16
zulah crap..12:16
zulmdz: confirmed12:16
viper12and the wifi broke as well.  Is there a problem with today's updates?12:16
viper12really fragged the main box I use.12:16
zulapparently there is12:17
viper12changing xorg.conf to use the "nv" driver temp fixes the gui, but that's about it.12:17
viper12my wifi isn't recognized any longer as well.12:17
zulviper12: i realize that we are trying to figure out what went wrong12:17
viper12not getting any response in the forums or the main ubuntu channel so I figured I'd drop by here.12:18
mdzzul: can you open a bug so that I can refer people there when they ask about this problem?12:18
zulmdz: sure12:18
mdzif there isn't one already...12:18
viper12someone mentioned that the restricted modules weren't bein' "luv'd"....is that what's happening?12:18
zulnice background though ;)12:18
viper12mdz=matt zimmerman? just curious. (you've been an 'education' in the forums to me....wanted to say thanks...if indeed dat' be you.)12:19
mdzviper12: that's me, you're welcome12:20
lamontis this -26 or -25?12:20
=== lamont nominates the inotify patches
zulya think?12:20
=== lamont is committed to out-of-town time for the weekend.
lamontstarting in about 90 minutes12:21
zulfrig i dont have access to main12:21
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lamontoh, upload access?12:21
lamontcreate a 00list-27* and pester mdz then, I guess.12:21
lamontonce the fix is done that is.12:21
lamontI expect I will have a little bit of online time tomorrow around 1800UTCish, but not very much12:22
lamontby that point fabbione will be back around and can do the upload, if it comes to that.12:22
viper12just fyi, i'm not asking for tech help here, but am very curious as to probable cause for the issue. (testing 2 boxes and a laptop with latest hoary builds).12:24
lamontviper12: if you can't load modules, it's because we broke it. :-(12:28
zulmdz: i need to get dinner for my wife and then ill be back on this abi stuff12:28
lamontzul: likewise, if mdz isn't around when -27 is ready, there should be _someone_ in #u-d with upload privs... :)12:29
viper12lamont......figured that. lol.  good thing that main box has a wired connection as well.......heh heh.  any eta (no rush) on a push for fixes?  (no desire to 'back down' as connectivity via laptop still good.)12:30
lamontthere should be a -27 there sometime within 24 hours or so (takes forever to build)12:30
lamontviper12: specifically, what zul has to do is figure out _which_ patch(es) broke the module abi compatibility, and remove them.12:30
=== zul smacks rml
lamontThen, we get to roll a new abi with the next kernel upload12:31
viper12its all good.  they don't calling it "testing/unstable" etc., for nuthin'. :)12:31
zulyay it kills the stamp-monolith stuff12:32
zulill just build a 686 kernel right now12:32
lamontyes. that was the nice thing about fabbione's changes...12:32
lamontthat works12:32
lamontviper12: I assume we're talking some x86 machine here, not ppc or amd64?12:33
viper12as x86 as it gets.  stock IBM e-server.  p4 2.4gig12:33
zuli only have a 1.8 celeron here so its going to take a while12:34
lamontzul: if I were doing it, it'd be on my home machine too.12:34
viper12the laptop (compaq x1000 widescreen) only has issues with video acceleration as far as I can tell at this point. (the ati mobility at least didn't break completely.)12:35
viper12wifi on the eserver is with a netgear wg311, and that went poof. (guessing restricted mods).12:35
zulviper12: what did you do for your xorg stuff so i can add it to the bug?12:35
=== lamont disappears for a few minutes
viper12to at least get the eserver "up" I just commented out the acceleration and nvidia specific lines, and changed the driver to "nv".  gnome came right up, but gl stuff will barf.12:36
viper12(screensavers, games, etc.)12:36
zulcan you add that to 7485 please? thanks12:37
viper12via bugzilla? (brain fartin' here.)12:37
zulyes thanks12:37
viper12be just a couple minutes. but sure.12:37
zulok...i need to go feed my wife12:38
viper12I do have one question......what should uname -a be reporting after this update? (just ensuring that something didn't bork with the synaptic upgrade.)12:39
zul2.6.10-4-686 you can do a dpkg -l | grep linux12:39
viper12zul, the info was just to make sure it wasn't s'posed to be 5-686 or somesuch.  I checked forums before updating, and didn't see any issues getting reported one way or 'nuther.  just me bein' paranoid. lol12:40
mdzzul: I'll be here for some hours yet12:42
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lamontwho's are favorite freenode op?12:42
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lamontthere.  all better12:53
viper12Just added the xorg.conf changes to get the nvidia card to at least bring up the gui.  Oh, I also commented out the acceleration stuff to ensure it would work.  (haven't tested it with acelleration enabled.)12:53
viper12(that's to 7485's bug report.)12:53
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viper12gonna try to leave acelleration enabled and see if it barfs.12:54
viper12spell check needed for my constant misspelling of acceleration. lmao12:56
viper12no difference.  just changing the driver from 'nvidia' to 'nv' is all that's needed to bring up gdm.  01:05
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viper12wondered when you'd pop over crimsun.  :)01:17
dilingerwhere's kernel-team@ubuntu.com--2005 ?01:19
dilingeranyone?  where can i get at the arch repository?01:25
lamontdilinger: http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/Archives/kernel-team@ubuntu.com--200501:29
lamontat least for now...01:29
lamontdilinger: and that's a baz archive,01:31
lamontalthough that might only matter for commits - not sure01:32
dilingeryea, definitely baz only01:36
dilingerkernel-debian--pre27--2.6.10 is the recommended branch for development stuff?01:37
dilingeror is there something more bleeding edge?01:37
lamontmainline is where we merge to when we upload01:40
lamont--pre27 is where we're committing changes prior to the upload01:40
lamontzul is currently tracking down the modules-abi b0rkage introduced in -26, that fix will be -27.01:40
dilingerok, thanks01:40
lamontthen we'll have --pre28 to play on...01:40
lamontalas, zul does not have commit access to the archive.01:41
lamontso, with luck, he'll have a readable archive somewhere with the changes, but more likely, -27 will consist only of 'remove these patches from 00list-26 and call it 00list-27'01:41
lamontwhich will then need to get reflected in baz.01:41
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zuldilinger: you are getting involved with us?02:11
dilingerzul: now that i've got a working ubuntu machine, that is the intention02:19
dilingeralso, gregkh and chrisw have been receptive to my patches for 2.6.x.y02:20
dilingerso it's looking like -as won't be necessary after all02:20
zulneet...welcome aboard02:20
dilingermore free time for me :)02:20
crimsunyeah, I was wondering if -as would morph into the .x.y :)02:20
zul  CC [M]   drivers/net/wireless/adm8211/ieee80211.o02:22
dilingerdo you guys ever override revision in debian/rules?02:31
zuli dont think so02:32
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dilingershouldn't matter, though, it's not sorted.  nm.02:33
lamontdilinger: cool.02:56
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zulc ya lamont02:56
lamontshould be back sometime on monday (dunno if first thing, or late in the day though...)02:56
lamontzul: thanks for dealing with the abi mess, eh?02:57
zulno probelm ill do the best that i can02:57
zulgah...i so much hate iNOTify02:59
zuldid i mention i hate inotify?03:58
crimsunI don't hate it as much now that I boot with "noinotify" ;-)03:59
zulwanna trade? :)03:59
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fabbionehow come the ABI didn't break with me?08:55
fabbionei have 686 -408:55
fabbioneand i have nvidia for not crying out loud08:56
fabbioneit's the first frigging test i do here08:57
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=== ..[topic/#ubuntu-kernel:fabbione] : Ubuntu kernel development discussion | http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/KernelTeam | kernel-team@ubuntu.com--2005/kernel-debian--pre28--2.6.10
fabbionehey zul01:02
zulwhat fun that was last night ;)01:03
zulthe abi breakage01:04
fabbionefuck nvidia and all the binary shit 01:04
zuli totally agree fuck them all01:04
fabbioneand force people to reboot after a kernel upgrade01:05
fabbioneall this mess it's only to avoid people to reboot01:05
fabbioneit is NOT worth the pain01:05
zulso we are back to 0.18 i take it01:06
zuloh yeah thanks for the patching unpactching stuff01:06
fabbioneno problem01:07
zulits alot better now01:07
zulalot more tolerable01:07
fabbioneoh yeah01:07
fabbioneguys i am going to commit some stuff to pre2801:18
fabbionebut i cannot commit all the patches01:18
fabbionebecause i am not allowed to disclose them01:18
fabbionenot before the 16 at least01:18
fabbionein the meanwhile i will be able to test them01:19
zuluh ok01:19
zulhuh? why didnt baz get pre-0.28?01:30
mjg59I'm going to have various patches to fix stuff on these HPs01:32
fabbionemjg59: please send them asap01:32
fabbionewe start to have time issue now for testing01:32
mjg59fabbione: Ok. First one will be easy, the others haven't been written now.01:32
fabbioneand it must be very good crack01:32
mjg59One of them is Obviously Correct01:33
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fabbionethat's weird01:36
zulok...now to go squish bugs01:37
mjg59fabbione: Last thing I see in the strace is the ioctl, and then the machine freezes01:37
mjg59Doesn't seem to make any difference whether or not there's a cable plugged in01:38
mjg59I should run mii-diag on it and see if it hangs01:38
fabbionegood idea01:39
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jbaileyhla, ca va?01:56
zulca ba bien et toi?01:57
jbaileytres bien.  Je suis un peux fatiguer.  Je me suis couch a... 02h30?  qqc comme ca.  jblack m'enseignait baz.01:58
zulheh, moi et aussi fatiguer, mais je prefere parlez en anglais parce que tout le monde parlez anglais01:59
zulmy french sucks02:00
zulbbiab need breakfast02:55
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zulhey fabbione have you got the ksysall-race patch [PATCH]  Fix kallsyms/insmod/rmmod race04:44
fabbionezul: not sure..04:46
fabbionethe tree is there... just get it ;)04:46
zulyeah i konw...well im including it in my patch set you can do what you want with it :)04:47
fabbionezul: but i don't even know where your patchset is!04:48
zulim working on it04:48
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fabbioneso only that symbol changed?11:59
fabbioneand it did all that mess?11:59

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