| zul | brb | 12:10 |
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| viper12 | so....anyone awake in here? | 12:14 |
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| zul | chuck@homer:~$ sudo modprobe nvidia | 12:16 |
| zul | Password: | 12:16 |
| zul | FATAL: Error inserting nvidia (/lib/modules/2.6.10-4-686/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia.ko): Invalid module format | 12:16 |
| zul | ah crap.. | 12:16 |
| viper12 | ditto. | 12:16 |
| zul | mdz: confirmed | 12:16 |
| viper12 | and the wifi broke as well. Is there a problem with today's updates? | 12:16 |
| viper12 | really fragged the main box I use. | 12:16 |
| zul | apparently there is | 12:17 |
| viper12 | changing xorg.conf to use the "nv" driver temp fixes the gui, but that's about it. | 12:17 |
| viper12 | my wifi isn't recognized any longer as well. | 12:17 |
| zul | viper12: i realize that we are trying to figure out what went wrong | 12:17 |
| viper12 | not getting any response in the forums or the main ubuntu channel so I figured I'd drop by here. | 12:18 |
| mdz | zul: can you open a bug so that I can refer people there when they ask about this problem? | 12:18 |
| zul | mdz: sure | 12:18 |
| mdz | if there isn't one already... | 12:18 |
| viper12 | someone mentioned that the restricted modules weren't bein' "luv'd"....is that what's happening? | 12:18 |
| zul | nice background though ;) | 12:18 |
| viper12 | mdz=matt zimmerman? just curious. (you've been an 'education' in the forums to me....wanted to say thanks...if indeed dat' be you.) | 12:19 |
| mdz | viper12: that's me, you're welcome | 12:20 |
| lamont | is this -26 or -25? | 12:20 |
| zul | 26 | 12:20 |
| viper12 | yep | 12:20 |
| === lamont nominates the inotify patches | ||
| zul | ya think? | 12:20 |
| === lamont is committed to out-of-town time for the weekend. | ||
| lamont | starting in about 90 minutes | 12:21 |
| zul | frig i dont have access to main | 12:21 |
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| lamont | ?? | 12:21 |
| lamont | oh, upload access? | 12:21 |
| zul | yeah | 12:21 |
| lamont | create a 00list-27* and pester mdz then, I guess. | 12:21 |
| lamont | once the fix is done that is. | 12:21 |
| zul | k | 12:21 |
| lamont | I expect I will have a little bit of online time tomorrow around 1800UTCish, but not very much | 12:22 |
| lamont | by that point fabbione will be back around and can do the upload, if it comes to that. | 12:22 |
| viper12 | just fyi, i'm not asking for tech help here, but am very curious as to probable cause for the issue. (testing 2 boxes and a laptop with latest hoary builds). | 12:24 |
| lamont | viper12: if you can't load modules, it's because we broke it. :-( | 12:28 |
| zul | mdz: i need to get dinner for my wife and then ill be back on this abi stuff | 12:28 |
| lamont | zul: likewise, if mdz isn't around when -27 is ready, there should be _someone_ in #u-d with upload privs... :) | 12:29 |
| viper12 | lamont......figured that. lol. good thing that main box has a wired connection as well.......heh heh. any eta (no rush) on a push for fixes? (no desire to 'back down' as connectivity via laptop still good.) | 12:30 |
| lamont | there should be a -27 there sometime within 24 hours or so (takes forever to build) | 12:30 |
| lamont | viper12: specifically, what zul has to do is figure out _which_ patch(es) broke the module abi compatibility, and remove them. | 12:30 |
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| lamont | Then, we get to roll a new abi with the next kernel upload | 12:31 |
| viper12 | its all good. they don't calling it "testing/unstable" etc., for nuthin'. :) | 12:31 |
| zul | lamont | 12:31 |
| lamont | si? | 12:32 |
| zul | yay it kills the stamp-monolith stuff | 12:32 |
| zul | ill just build a 686 kernel right now | 12:32 |
| lamont | yes. that was the nice thing about fabbione's changes... | 12:32 |
| lamont | that works | 12:32 |
| lamont | viper12: I assume we're talking some x86 machine here, not ppc or amd64? | 12:33 |
| viper12 | as x86 as it gets. stock IBM e-server. p4 2.4gig | 12:33 |
| zul | i only have a 1.8 celeron here so its going to take a while | 12:34 |
| lamont | zul: if I were doing it, it'd be on my home machine too. | 12:34 |
| viper12 | the laptop (compaq x1000 widescreen) only has issues with video acceleration as far as I can tell at this point. (the ati mobility at least didn't break completely.) | 12:35 |
| viper12 | wifi on the eserver is with a netgear wg311, and that went poof. (guessing restricted mods). | 12:35 |
| zul | viper12: what did you do for your xorg stuff so i can add it to the bug? | 12:35 |
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| viper12 | to at least get the eserver "up" I just commented out the acceleration and nvidia specific lines, and changed the driver to "nv". gnome came right up, but gl stuff will barf. | 12:36 |
| viper12 | (screensavers, games, etc.) | 12:36 |
| zul | can you add that to 7485 please? thanks | 12:37 |
| viper12 | via bugzilla? (brain fartin' here.) | 12:37 |
| zul | yes thanks | 12:37 |
| viper12 | be just a couple minutes. but sure. | 12:37 |
| zul | ok...i need to go feed my wife | 12:38 |
| viper12 | :D | 12:38 |
| viper12 | I do have one question......what should uname -a be reporting after this update? (just ensuring that something didn't bork with the synaptic upgrade.) | 12:39 |
| zul | 2.6.10-4-686 you can do a dpkg -l | grep linux | 12:39 |
| viper12 | zul, the info was just to make sure it wasn't s'posed to be 5-686 or somesuch. I checked forums before updating, and didn't see any issues getting reported one way or 'nuther. just me bein' paranoid. lol | 12:40 |
| zul | k...bbiab | 12:40 |
| mdz | zul: I'll be here for some hours yet | 12:42 |
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| lamont | who's are favorite freenode op? | 12:42 |
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| lamont | there. all better | 12:53 |
| viper12 | Just added the xorg.conf changes to get the nvidia card to at least bring up the gui. Oh, I also commented out the acceleration stuff to ensure it would work. (haven't tested it with acelleration enabled.) | 12:53 |
| viper12 | (that's to 7485's bug report.) | 12:53 |
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| lamont | cool | 12:54 |
| viper12 | gonna try to leave acelleration enabled and see if it barfs. | 12:54 |
| viper12 | spell check needed for my constant misspelling of acceleration. lmao | 12:56 |
| viper12 | no difference. just changing the driver from 'nvidia' to 'nv' is all that's needed to bring up gdm. | 01:05 |
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| viper12 | wondered when you'd pop over crimsun. :) | 01:17 |
| dilinger | where's kernel-team@ubuntu.com--2005 ? | 01:19 |
| dilinger | anyone? where can i get at the arch repository? | 01:25 |
| lamont | dilinger: http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/Archives/kernel-team@ubuntu.com--2005 | 01:29 |
| lamont | at least for now... | 01:29 |
| dilinger | thanks | 01:30 |
| lamont | dilinger: and that's a baz archive, | 01:31 |
| lamont | although that might only matter for commits - not sure | 01:32 |
| dilinger | yea, definitely baz only | 01:36 |
| dilinger | kernel-debian--pre27--2.6.10 is the recommended branch for development stuff? | 01:37 |
| dilinger | or is there something more bleeding edge? | 01:37 |
| lamont | mainline is where we merge to when we upload | 01:40 |
| lamont | --pre27 is where we're committing changes prior to the upload | 01:40 |
| lamont | zul is currently tracking down the modules-abi b0rkage introduced in -26, that fix will be -27. | 01:40 |
| dilinger | ok, thanks | 01:40 |
| lamont | then we'll have --pre28 to play on... | 01:40 |
| lamont | alas, zul does not have commit access to the archive. | 01:41 |
| lamont | so, with luck, he'll have a readable archive somewhere with the changes, but more likely, -27 will consist only of 'remove these patches from 00list-26 and call it 00list-27' | 01:41 |
| lamont | which will then need to get reflected in baz. | 01:41 |
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| zul | dilinger: you are getting involved with us? | 02:11 |
| dilinger | zul: now that i've got a working ubuntu machine, that is the intention | 02:19 |
| zul | cool | 02:19 |
| dilinger | also, gregkh and chrisw have been receptive to my patches for 2.6.x.y | 02:20 |
| dilinger | so it's looking like -as won't be necessary after all | 02:20 |
| zul | neet...welcome aboard | 02:20 |
| dilinger | more free time for me :) | 02:20 |
| crimsun | yeah, I was wondering if -as would morph into the .x.y :) | 02:20 |
| zul | CC [M] drivers/net/wireless/adm8211/ieee80211.o | 02:22 |
| dilinger | do you guys ever override revision in debian/rules? | 02:31 |
| zul | i dont think so | 02:32 |
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| dilinger | shouldn't matter, though, it's not sorted. nm. | 02:33 |
| lamont | dilinger: cool. | 02:56 |
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| zul | c ya lamont | 02:56 |
| lamont | should be back sometime on monday (dunno if first thing, or late in the day though...) | 02:56 |
| lamont | zul: thanks for dealing with the abi mess, eh? | 02:57 |
| zul | no probelm ill do the best that i can | 02:57 |
| zul | gah...i so much hate iNOTify | 02:59 |
| zul | did i mention i hate inotify? | 03:58 |
| crimsun | I don't hate it as much now that I boot with "noinotify" ;-) | 03:59 |
| zul | wanna trade? :) | 03:59 |
| crimsun | heheh | 04:01 |
| zul | later | 05:20 |
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| fabbione | hmmmm | 08:55 |
| fabbione | wtf | 08:55 |
| fabbione | how come the ABI didn't break with me? | 08:55 |
| fabbione | i have 686 -4 | 08:55 |
| fabbione | and i have nvidia for not crying out loud | 08:56 |
| fabbione | it's the first frigging test i do here | 08:57 |
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| zul | morning | 01:01 |
| fabbione | hey zul | 01:02 |
| zul | what fun that was last night ;) | 01:03 |
| fabbione | uh? | 01:03 |
| zul | the abi breakage | 01:04 |
| fabbione | fuck nvidia and all the binary shit | 01:04 |
| zul | yep | 01:04 |
| zul | i totally agree fuck them all | 01:04 |
| fabbione | and force people to reboot after a kernel upgrade | 01:05 |
| fabbione | all this mess it's only to avoid people to reboot | 01:05 |
| fabbione | it is NOT worth the pain | 01:05 |
| zul | so we are back to 0.18 i take it | 01:06 |
| zul | oh yeah thanks for the patching unpactching stuff | 01:06 |
| fabbione | no problem | 01:07 |
| zul | its alot better now | 01:07 |
| zul | alot more tolerable | 01:07 |
| fabbione | oh yeah | 01:07 |
| fabbione | guys i am going to commit some stuff to pre28 | 01:18 |
| fabbione | but i cannot commit all the patches | 01:18 |
| fabbione | because i am not allowed to disclose them | 01:18 |
| fabbione | not before the 16 at least | 01:18 |
| fabbione | in the meanwhile i will be able to test them | 01:19 |
| zul | uh ok | 01:19 |
| zul | huh? why didnt baz get pre-0.28? | 01:30 |
| fabbione | pre28 | 01:32 |
| mjg59 | I'm going to have various patches to fix stuff on these HPs | 01:32 |
| fabbione | mjg59: please send them asap | 01:32 |
| fabbione | we start to have time issue now for testing | 01:32 |
| mjg59 | fabbione: Ok. First one will be easy, the others haven't been written now. | 01:32 |
| fabbione | and it must be very good crack | 01:32 |
| mjg59 | One of them is Obviously Correct | 01:33 |
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| fabbione | hmmm | 01:36 |
| fabbione | that's weird | 01:36 |
| zul | ok...now to go squish bugs | 01:37 |
| mjg59 | fabbione: Last thing I see in the strace is the ioctl, and then the machine freezes | 01:37 |
| mjg59 | Doesn't seem to make any difference whether or not there's a cable plugged in | 01:38 |
| mjg59 | I should run mii-diag on it and see if it hangs | 01:38 |
| fabbione | good idea | 01:39 |
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| zul | bonjour | 01:55 |
| jbailey | hla, ca va? | 01:56 |
| zul | ca ba bien et toi? | 01:57 |
| jbailey | tres bien. Je suis un peux fatiguer. Je me suis couch a... 02h30? qqc comme ca. jblack m'enseignait baz. | 01:58 |
| zul | heh, moi et aussi fatiguer, mais je prefere parlez en anglais parce que tout le monde parlez anglais | 01:59 |
| zul | my french sucks | 02:00 |
| zul | tabarnac | 02:01 |
| zul | bbiab need breakfast | 02:55 |
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| zul | hey fabbione have you got the ksysall-race patch [PATCH] Fix kallsyms/insmod/rmmod race | 04:44 |
| fabbione | zul: not sure.. | 04:46 |
| fabbione | the tree is there... just get it ;) | 04:46 |
| zul | yeah i konw...well im including it in my patch set you can do what you want with it :) | 04:47 |
| fabbione | zul: but i don't even know where your patchset is! | 04:48 |
| zul | im working on it | 04:48 |
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| dilinger | yay | 07:51 |
| dilinger | http://www.acm.rpi.edu/~dilinger/ubuntu/abilog | 07:51 |
| zul | sweet | 07:51 |
| fabbione | re | 11:58 |
| fabbione | interesting | 11:59 |
| fabbione | so only that symbol changed? | 11:59 |
| fabbione | and it did all that mess? | 11:59 |
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