[12:10] brb === viper12 [~Casey@c-67-176-43-76.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [12:14] so....anyone awake in here? === zul [~chuck@CPE0006258ec6c2-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [12:16] chuck@homer:~$ sudo modprobe nvidia [12:16] Password: [12:16] FATAL: Error inserting nvidia (/lib/modules/2.6.10-4-686/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia.ko): Invalid module format [12:16] ah crap.. [12:16] ditto. [12:16] mdz: confirmed [12:16] and the wifi broke as well. Is there a problem with today's updates? [12:16] really fragged the main box I use. [12:17] apparently there is [12:17] changing xorg.conf to use the "nv" driver temp fixes the gui, but that's about it. [12:17] my wifi isn't recognized any longer as well. [12:17] viper12: i realize that we are trying to figure out what went wrong [12:18] not getting any response in the forums or the main ubuntu channel so I figured I'd drop by here. [12:18] zul: can you open a bug so that I can refer people there when they ask about this problem? [12:18] mdz: sure [12:18] if there isn't one already... [12:18] someone mentioned that the restricted modules weren't bein' "luv'd"....is that what's happening? [12:18] nice background though ;) [12:19] mdz=matt zimmerman? just curious. (you've been an 'education' in the forums to me....wanted to say thanks...if indeed dat' be you.) [12:20] viper12: that's me, you're welcome [12:20] is this -26 or -25? [12:20] 26 [12:20] yep === lamont nominates the inotify patches [12:20] ya think? === lamont is committed to out-of-town time for the weekend. [12:21] starting in about 90 minutes [12:21] frig i dont have access to main === Seveas [dennis@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [12:21] ?? [12:21] oh, upload access? [12:21] yeah [12:21] create a 00list-27* and pester mdz then, I guess. [12:21] once the fix is done that is. [12:21] k [12:22] I expect I will have a little bit of online time tomorrow around 1800UTCish, but not very much [12:22] by that point fabbione will be back around and can do the upload, if it comes to that. [12:24] just fyi, i'm not asking for tech help here, but am very curious as to probable cause for the issue. (testing 2 boxes and a laptop with latest hoary builds). [12:28] viper12: if you can't load modules, it's because we broke it. :-( [12:28] mdz: i need to get dinner for my wife and then ill be back on this abi stuff [12:29] zul: likewise, if mdz isn't around when -27 is ready, there should be _someone_ in #u-d with upload privs... :) [12:30] lamont......figured that. lol. good thing that main box has a wired connection as well.......heh heh. any eta (no rush) on a push for fixes? (no desire to 'back down' as connectivity via laptop still good.) [12:30] there should be a -27 there sometime within 24 hours or so (takes forever to build) [12:30] viper12: specifically, what zul has to do is figure out _which_ patch(es) broke the module abi compatibility, and remove them. === zul smacks rml [12:31] Then, we get to roll a new abi with the next kernel upload [12:31] its all good. they don't calling it "testing/unstable" etc., for nuthin'. :) [12:31] lamont [12:32] si? [12:32] yay it kills the stamp-monolith stuff [12:32] ill just build a 686 kernel right now [12:32] yes. that was the nice thing about fabbione's changes... [12:32] that works [12:33] viper12: I assume we're talking some x86 machine here, not ppc or amd64? [12:33] as x86 as it gets. stock IBM e-server. p4 2.4gig [12:34] i only have a 1.8 celeron here so its going to take a while [12:34] zul: if I were doing it, it'd be on my home machine too. [12:35] the laptop (compaq x1000 widescreen) only has issues with video acceleration as far as I can tell at this point. (the ati mobility at least didn't break completely.) [12:35] wifi on the eserver is with a netgear wg311, and that went poof. (guessing restricted mods). [12:35] viper12: what did you do for your xorg stuff so i can add it to the bug? === lamont disappears for a few minutes [12:36] to at least get the eserver "up" I just commented out the acceleration and nvidia specific lines, and changed the driver to "nv". gnome came right up, but gl stuff will barf. [12:36] (screensavers, games, etc.) [12:37] can you add that to 7485 please? thanks [12:37] via bugzilla? (brain fartin' here.) [12:37] yes thanks [12:37] be just a couple minutes. but sure. [12:38] ok...i need to go feed my wife [12:38] :D [12:39] I do have one question......what should uname -a be reporting after this update? (just ensuring that something didn't bork with the synaptic upgrade.) [12:39] 2.6.10-4-686 you can do a dpkg -l | grep linux [12:40] zul, the info was just to make sure it wasn't s'posed to be 5-686 or somesuch. I checked forums before updating, and didn't see any issues getting reported one way or 'nuther. just me bein' paranoid. lol [12:40] k...bbiab [12:42] zul: I'll be here for some hours yet === lamont curses and bangs head on desk [12:42] who's are favorite freenode op? === mode/#ubuntu-kernel [+o lamont] by Md [12:53] there. all better [12:53] Just added the xorg.conf changes to get the nvidia card to at least bring up the gui. Oh, I also commented out the acceleration stuff to ensure it would work. (haven't tested it with acelleration enabled.) [12:53] (that's to 7485's bug report.) === lamont gives mdz/jdub op privs in this channel too === mode/#ubuntu-kernel [-o lamont] by lamont === mode/#ubuntu-kernel [+o lamont] by ChanServ === mode/#ubuntu-kernel [-o lamont] by lamont [12:54] cool [12:54] gonna try to leave acelleration enabled and see if it barfs. [12:56] spell check needed for my constant misspelling of acceleration. lmao [01:05] no difference. just changing the driver from 'nvidia' to 'nv' is all that's needed to bring up gdm. === crimsun [~crimsun@crimsun.silver.supporter.pdpc] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [01:17] wondered when you'd pop over crimsun. :) [01:19] where's kernel-team@ubuntu.com--2005 ? [01:25] anyone? where can i get at the arch repository? [01:29] dilinger: http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/Archives/kernel-team@ubuntu.com--2005 [01:29] at least for now... [01:30] thanks [01:31] dilinger: and that's a baz archive, [01:32] although that might only matter for commits - not sure [01:36] yea, definitely baz only [01:37] kernel-debian--pre27--2.6.10 is the recommended branch for development stuff? [01:37] or is there something more bleeding edge? [01:40] mainline is where we merge to when we upload [01:40] --pre27 is where we're committing changes prior to the upload [01:40] zul is currently tracking down the modules-abi b0rkage introduced in -26, that fix will be -27. [01:40] ok, thanks [01:40] then we'll have --pre28 to play on... [01:41] alas, zul does not have commit access to the archive. [01:41] so, with luck, he'll have a readable archive somewhere with the changes, but more likely, -27 will consist only of 'remove these patches from 00list-26 and call it 00list-27' [01:41] which will then need to get reflected in baz. === lamont will be back in a bit [02:11] dilinger: you are getting involved with us? [02:19] zul: now that i've got a working ubuntu machine, that is the intention [02:19] cool [02:20] also, gregkh and chrisw have been receptive to my patches for 2.6.x.y [02:20] so it's looking like -as won't be necessary after all [02:20] neet...welcome aboard [02:20] more free time for me :) [02:20] yeah, I was wondering if -as would morph into the .x.y :) [02:22] CC [M] drivers/net/wireless/adm8211/ieee80211.o [02:31] do you guys ever override revision in debian/rules? [02:32] i dont think so === dilinger wonders if his code to get the previous revision is going to break if, for example, 25.3 is used as revision, but 26 exists [02:33] shouldn't matter, though, it's not sorted. nm. [02:56] dilinger: cool. === lamont heads off for a weekend of fun with his 9 year-old. [02:56] c ya lamont [02:56] should be back sometime on monday (dunno if first thing, or late in the day though...) [02:57] zul: thanks for dealing with the abi mess, eh? [02:57] no probelm ill do the best that i can [02:59] gah...i so much hate iNOTify [03:58] did i mention i hate inotify? [03:59] I don't hate it as much now that I boot with "noinotify" ;-) [03:59] wanna trade? :) [04:01] heheh [05:20] later === viper12 [~casey@c-67-176-43-76.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [08:55] hmmmm [08:55] wtf [08:55] how come the ABI didn't break with me? [08:55] i have 686 -4 [08:56] and i have nvidia for not crying out loud [08:57] it's the first frigging test i do here === viper12 [~casey@c-67-176-43-76.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === crimsun [~crimsun@crimsun.silver.supporter.pdpc] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Seveas [dennis@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === ..[topic/#ubuntu-kernel:fabbione] : Ubuntu kernel development discussion | http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/KernelTeam | kernel-team@ubuntu.com--2005/kernel-debian--pre28--2.6.10 [01:01] morning [01:02] hey zul [01:03] what fun that was last night ;) [01:03] uh? [01:04] the abi breakage [01:04] fuck nvidia and all the binary shit [01:04] yep [01:04] i totally agree fuck them all [01:05] and force people to reboot after a kernel upgrade [01:05] all this mess it's only to avoid people to reboot [01:05] it is NOT worth the pain [01:06] so we are back to 0.18 i take it [01:06] oh yeah thanks for the patching unpactching stuff [01:07] no problem [01:07] its alot better now [01:07] alot more tolerable [01:07] oh yeah [01:18] guys i am going to commit some stuff to pre28 [01:18] but i cannot commit all the patches [01:18] because i am not allowed to disclose them [01:18] not before the 16 at least [01:19] in the meanwhile i will be able to test them [01:19] uh ok [01:30] huh? why didnt baz get pre-0.28? [01:32] pre28 [01:32] I'm going to have various patches to fix stuff on these HPs [01:32] mjg59: please send them asap [01:32] we start to have time issue now for testing [01:32] fabbione: Ok. First one will be easy, the others haven't been written now. [01:32] and it must be very good crack [01:33] One of them is Obviously Correct === mjg59 wonders about '7490 [01:36] hmmm [01:36] that's weird [01:37] ok...now to go squish bugs [01:37] fabbione: Last thing I see in the strace is the ioctl, and then the machine freezes [01:38] Doesn't seem to make any difference whether or not there's a cable plugged in [01:38] I should run mii-diag on it and see if it hangs [01:39] good idea === jbailey [~jbailey@CPE000ded9d787c-CM014260028338.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [01:55] bonjour [01:56] hla, ca va? [01:57] ca ba bien et toi? [01:58] tres bien. Je suis un peux fatiguer. Je me suis couch a... 02h30? qqc comme ca. jblack m'enseignait baz. [01:59] heh, moi et aussi fatiguer, mais je prefere parlez en anglais parce que tout le monde parlez anglais [02:00] my french sucks [02:01] tabarnac [02:55] bbiab need breakfast === smurfix [~smurf@run.smurf.noris.de] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [04:44] hey fabbione have you got the ksysall-race patch [PATCH] Fix kallsyms/insmod/rmmod race [04:46] zul: not sure.. [04:46] the tree is there... just get it ;) [04:47] yeah i konw...well im including it in my patch set you can do what you want with it :) [04:48] zul: but i don't even know where your patchset is! [04:48] im working on it === Seveas [dennis@seveas.demon.nl] has left #ubuntu-kernel ["Leaving"] [07:51] yay [07:51] http://www.acm.rpi.edu/~dilinger/ubuntu/abilog [07:51] sweet [11:58] re [11:59] interesting [11:59] so only that symbol changed? [11:59] and it did all that mess?