| mdke | hmm | 02:33 |
|---|---|---|
| mdke | anyone awake? | 02:33 |
| mdke | sm, ping | 02:35 |
| sm | hello | 02:35 |
| mdke | oh wow | 02:35 |
| mdke | great | 02:35 |
| mdke | sm, i'm wondering about the icons | 02:35 |
| mdke | the previous markup had these features | 02:35 |
| mdke | :scale: 100 | 02:36 |
| mdke | :alt: IconHandPointing where did the picture go? | 02:36 |
| mdke | :align: left | 02:36 |
| mdke | i'm thinking perhaps moinmoin doesn't? | 02:36 |
| sm | right | 02:36 |
| sm | those are restructured text features | 02:36 |
| mdke | ok | 02:36 |
| mdke | so no way to recreate alt or align? | 02:36 |
| sm | afaik moin can include an image, link it, and that's all | 02:36 |
| mdke | ok thats cool | 02:36 |
| sm | you might ask on #moin to be sure | 02:37 |
| mdke | i just wanted to know before I deleted those references | 02:37 |
| mdke | ok i will | 02:37 |
| mdke | thanks sm | 02:39 |
| sm | mdke, fyi: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/pagesByType | 02:39 |
| sm | and http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/wikiStats | 02:39 |
| mdke | ok brilliant | 02:39 |
| mdke | i can only view the first one, but that in itself is already useful | 02:40 |
| sm | oh.. can you see the second now ? | 02:42 |
| mdke | yes | 02:43 |
| mdke | ty | 02:43 |
| sm | np | 02:45 |
| mdke | sm, seems it can't be done without a macro | 02:45 |
| sm | ok.. which we don't support yet | 02:45 |
| mdke | fair play | 02:45 |
| mdke | it is planned to add them? | 02:46 |
| mdke | the macro would be macro/ImageLink.py btw | 02:46 |
| mdke | "HTML IMG tag attributes (width, height, alt, etc)are supported." | 02:46 |
| mdke | that would be so cool | 02:47 |
| mdke | paste: | 02:49 |
| mdke | mdke i think that our wiki does not support macros | 02:49 |
| mdke | mdke that is what I am told | 02:49 |
| mdke | xorAxAx URL? | 02:49 |
| mdke | mdke http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki | 02:49 |
| mdke | mdke it is zwiki | 02:49 |
| mdke | mdke in plone | 02:49 |
| mdke | xorAxAx yeah. | 02:49 |
| mdke | xorAxAx maybe you want to install moinmoin :-) | 02:49 |
| mdke | /endpaste | 02:49 |
| sm | mdke: it's on the wishlist, but it's not top priority unless it gets bountyized | 02:55 |
| mdke | np | 03:00 |
| mdke | was changing the wiki engine discussed tonight? | 03:00 |
| mdke | actually i shouldn't be wasting your time with irritating questions, i'll get the log and have a read | 03:00 |
| sm | mdke: np.. sorry I am elsewhere | 03:08 |
| sm | I caught the last 15 mins of the meeting.. I had the wrong time | 03:08 |
| sm | afaict the wiki wasn't discussed at all | 03:09 |
| sm | do you have any questions about it ? I had a bunch of clarifications for your posts in the list | 03:09 |
| sm | which I can't remember :) | 03:09 |
| mdke | you mean corrections? | 03:09 |
| mdke | this is my first time with a wiki, so I am pretty raq | 03:10 |
| sm | some, yes | 03:10 |
| mdke | raw* | 03:10 |
| sm | did you see the thread about parents in ubuntu-doc a few weeks back ? | 03:10 |
| mdke | erm | 03:10 |
| sm | I discussed it a little with corey iirc | 03:10 |
| mdke | no i wasn't joined | 03:10 |
| mdke | i'll look it up | 03:10 |
| sm | yes, look up that one in gmane | 03:11 |
| mdke | *coughs* | 03:11 |
| mdke | gmane? | 03:11 |
| mdke | i'm on the web archive | 03:11 |
| sm | http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.doc/894 | 03:12 |
| mdke | ok thanks | 03:13 |
| mdke | you can set multiple parents?!?!?! | 03:14 |
| mdke | but, but | 03:14 |
| sm | ? | 03:16 |
| sm | mdke: don't forget to peruse http://zwiki.org | 03:17 |
| mdke | right | 03:17 |
| mdke | if you can set multiple parents, its not obvious for a user tho | 03:17 |
| sm | UsersGuide anyway | 03:17 |
| mdke | in fact I asked mdz and he said it couldn't be done | 03:18 |
| sm | it's not clear that it's a good idea.. we haven't really used it | 03:18 |
| mdke | hmm | 03:18 |
| sm | but I mention it whenever this comes up | 03:18 |
| mdke | the parenting thing isn't really that big a deal is it tho | 03:18 |
| sm | I don't think so | 03:18 |
| mdke | if users make sure they link BEFORE creating the page, then there is no problem | 03:19 |
| sm | I can hide it in 5 minutes if | 03:19 |
| sm | that's the consensus | 03:19 |
| mdke | i doubt it will be | 03:19 |
| sm | personally I find it imposes some useful order | 03:19 |
| mdke | yeah | 03:19 |
| sm | like most long documents, books, etc. | 03:19 |
| mdke | sm, but people do not use it | 03:19 |
| sm | sure they do | 03:19 |
| sm | the whole wiki is organized with it | 03:19 |
| mdke | well they do, but they parent documents under the wrong place ;) | 03:19 |
| mdke | "wrong" is subjective i suppose | 03:20 |
| sm | that's easily fixed by a small number of gardeners like yourself :) | 03:20 |
| mdke | yeah | 03:20 |
| mdke | people always have them under their userpages | 03:20 |
| sm | when the wiki was imported from moin, there was no parenting | 03:20 |
| sm | enrico got it organized quite quickly | 03:20 |
| mdke | kewl | 03:20 |
| sm | yeah new stuff often starts under someone's home page | 03:20 |
| mdke | best way is to emphasise that you make a link FIRST in the parent page, and THEN create the page using the link | 03:21 |
| mdke | anyway here's the deal with me, i'm pretty much a n00b so I'm just happy to carry on discussing things, but essentially I will just work on whatever the system is | 03:21 |
| sm | I don't worry about parenting too much | 03:21 |
| sm | let people make the page, that's the most important | 03:22 |
| sm | anyone can adjust the parenting later | 03:22 |
| mdke | hmm | 03:22 |
| sm | like formatting | 03:22 |
| mdke | problem is that if the parenting is not correct, the page might not get linked and the page will not be seen enough | 03:22 |
| sm | we don't expect newbies to get the formatting perfect either | 03:22 |
| sm | we rely on cooperation to improve things over time | 03:22 |
| sm | when you see a problem like that, you just reparent | 03:23 |
| sm | or you add an extra wiki link | 03:23 |
| mdke | yup | 03:23 |
| mdke | moinmoin is def the way to go btw, rewriting the FrontPage is showing up some dud links | 03:24 |
| sm | I think I saw you saying DocumentationArea duplicates FrontPage ? | 03:24 |
| sm | you are quite right, it should be merged there | 03:24 |
| mdke | oh | 03:24 |
| mdke | i forgot about that | 03:25 |
| mdke | i'll do it another time | 03:25 |
| mdke | or someone will | 03:25 |
| sm | yeah | 03:25 |
| sm | here's a links page I quite like: http://joyful.com/Squeak | 03:25 |
| mdke | *added to bookmarks* | 03:27 |
| mdke | ok have done FrontPage | 03:30 |
| mdke | have left the dud links for now and will look later | 03:30 |
| mdke | need to sleep now | 03:30 |
| sm | nice one | 03:31 |
| sm | good night | 03:31 |
| mdke | nite | 03:31 |
| === mdke [~matt@mdke.user] has left #ubuntu-doc ["Leaving"] | ||
| === BuffaloSoldier [~user@218.111.151.145] has joined #ubuntu-doc | ||
| === BuffaloSoldier [~user@218.111.151.145] has left #ubuntu-doc ["Leaving"] | ||
| === jeffsch [~jeffsch@fatwire-203-183.uniserve.ca] has left #ubuntu-doc ["gotta] | ||
| === sm [~simon@lsanca1-ar5-4-60-060-085.lsanca1.dsl-verizon.net] has left #ubuntu-doc [] | ||
| === enrico [~enrico@enrico.developer.debian] has joined #ubuntu-doc | ||
| enrico | Hello, good morning. | 11:37 |
| enrico | Does someone have the IRC log of the meeting after I left? | 11:37 |
| froud | [01:42] *** enrico has left this server. ("good night!") | 11:38 |
| froud | [01:42] <Mithrandir> did I tell you I don't like XSLT? (: | 11:38 |
| froud | [01:42] <jeffsch> good night enrico | 11:38 |
| froud | [01:42] <froud> Mithrandir: did you patch it | 11:38 |
| froud | [01:42] *** jeffsch has left this channel. ("gotta run") | 11:38 |
| froud | [01:42] <Mithrandir> if somebody can verify that it DTRT for them, I'd appreciate it. | 11:38 |
| === froud [~froud@ndn-165-131-237.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-doc | ||
| enrico | froud-away: that was it? | 11:40 |
| froud | yep and one bug squashed | 11:40 |
| enrico | Cool! | 11:40 |
| froud | must go I am working on other stuff | 11:40 |
| === abelli [~user@48b4cd02962ef175.node.tor] has joined #ubuntu-doc | ||
| abelli | vale comites | 01:17 |
| abelli | enrico: where can i find a good manual on aptitude? | 01:18 |
| abelli | other than man pages? | 01:18 |
| === HostingGeek [~HG@200.48.233.220.exetel.com.au] has left #ubuntu-doc ["Thank] | ||
| enrico | abelli: /usr/share/doc/aptitude | 01:26 |
| abelli | enrico: invaluable as always. | 01:26 |
| === froud-away [~froud@ndn-165-131-237.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-doc | ||
| === mdke [~matt@mdke.user] has joined #ubuntu-doc | ||
| mdke | some wiki pruning done | 07:57 |
| === abelli [~user@d3981bfbf397ef9a.node.tor] has joined #ubuntu-doc | ||
| === drasko [~drasko@kds9-082.ptt.yu] has joined #ubuntu-doc | ||
| mdke | hi abelli, drasko | 09:19 |
| abelli | mdke: ciao ciao | 09:21 |
| drasko | mdke, hi | 09:25 |
| drasko | hi all | 09:25 |
| abelli | drasko: ciao | 09:31 |
| === mdke [~matt@mdke.user] has joined #ubuntu-doc | ||
| === matt_ [~matt@81-178-127-4.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc | ||
| === matt_ is now known as mdke | ||
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.7 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!