[02:33] hmm [02:33] anyone awake? [02:35] sm, ping [02:35] hello [02:35] oh wow [02:35] great [02:35] sm, i'm wondering about the icons [02:35] the previous markup had these features [02:36] :scale: 100 [02:36] :alt: IconHandPointing where did the picture go? [02:36] :align: left [02:36] i'm thinking perhaps moinmoin doesn't? [02:36] right [02:36] those are restructured text features [02:36] ok [02:36] so no way to recreate alt or align? [02:36] afaik moin can include an image, link it, and that's all [02:36] ok thats cool [02:37] you might ask on #moin to be sure [02:37] i just wanted to know before I deleted those references [02:37] ok i will [02:39] thanks sm [02:39] mdke, fyi: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/pagesByType [02:39] and http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/wikiStats [02:39] ok brilliant [02:40] i can only view the first one, but that in itself is already useful [02:42] oh.. can you see the second now ? [02:43] yes [02:43] ty [02:45] np [02:45] sm, seems it can't be done without a macro [02:45] ok.. which we don't support yet [02:45] fair play [02:46] it is planned to add them? [02:46] the macro would be macro/ImageLink.py btw [02:46] "HTML IMG tag attributes (width, height, alt, etc)are supported." [02:47] that would be so cool [02:49] paste: [02:49] mdke i think that our wiki does not support macros [02:49] mdke that is what I am told [02:49] xorAxAx URL? [02:49] mdke http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki [02:49] mdke it is zwiki [02:49] mdke in plone [02:49] xorAxAx yeah. [02:49] xorAxAx maybe you want to install moinmoin :-) [02:49] /endpaste [02:55] mdke: it's on the wishlist, but it's not top priority unless it gets bountyized [03:00] np [03:00] was changing the wiki engine discussed tonight? [03:00] actually i shouldn't be wasting your time with irritating questions, i'll get the log and have a read [03:08] mdke: np.. sorry I am elsewhere [03:08] I caught the last 15 mins of the meeting.. I had the wrong time [03:09] afaict the wiki wasn't discussed at all [03:09] do you have any questions about it ? I had a bunch of clarifications for your posts in the list [03:09] which I can't remember :) [03:09] you mean corrections? [03:10] this is my first time with a wiki, so I am pretty raq [03:10] some, yes [03:10] raw* [03:10] did you see the thread about parents in ubuntu-doc a few weeks back ? [03:10] erm [03:10] I discussed it a little with corey iirc [03:10] no i wasn't joined [03:10] i'll look it up [03:11] yes, look up that one in gmane [03:11] *coughs* [03:11] gmane? [03:11] i'm on the web archive [03:12] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.doc/894 [03:13] ok thanks [03:14] you can set multiple parents?!?!?! [03:14] but, but [03:16] ? [03:17] mdke: don't forget to peruse http://zwiki.org [03:17] right [03:17] if you can set multiple parents, its not obvious for a user tho [03:17] UsersGuide anyway [03:18] in fact I asked mdz and he said it couldn't be done [03:18] it's not clear that it's a good idea.. we haven't really used it [03:18] hmm [03:18] but I mention it whenever this comes up [03:18] the parenting thing isn't really that big a deal is it tho [03:18] I don't think so [03:19] if users make sure they link BEFORE creating the page, then there is no problem [03:19] I can hide it in 5 minutes if [03:19] that's the consensus [03:19] i doubt it will be [03:19] personally I find it imposes some useful order [03:19] yeah [03:19] like most long documents, books, etc. [03:19] sm, but people do not use it [03:19] sure they do [03:19] the whole wiki is organized with it [03:19] well they do, but they parent documents under the wrong place ;) [03:20] "wrong" is subjective i suppose [03:20] that's easily fixed by a small number of gardeners like yourself :) [03:20] yeah [03:20] people always have them under their userpages [03:20] when the wiki was imported from moin, there was no parenting [03:20] enrico got it organized quite quickly [03:20] kewl [03:20] yeah new stuff often starts under someone's home page [03:21] best way is to emphasise that you make a link FIRST in the parent page, and THEN create the page using the link [03:21] anyway here's the deal with me, i'm pretty much a n00b so I'm just happy to carry on discussing things, but essentially I will just work on whatever the system is [03:21] I don't worry about parenting too much [03:22] let people make the page, that's the most important [03:22] anyone can adjust the parenting later [03:22] hmm [03:22] like formatting [03:22] problem is that if the parenting is not correct, the page might not get linked and the page will not be seen enough [03:22] we don't expect newbies to get the formatting perfect either [03:22] we rely on cooperation to improve things over time [03:23] when you see a problem like that, you just reparent [03:23] or you add an extra wiki link [03:23] yup [03:24] moinmoin is def the way to go btw, rewriting the FrontPage is showing up some dud links [03:24] I think I saw you saying DocumentationArea duplicates FrontPage ? [03:24] you are quite right, it should be merged there [03:24] oh [03:25] i forgot about that [03:25] i'll do it another time [03:25] or someone will [03:25] yeah [03:25] here's a links page I quite like: http://joyful.com/Squeak [03:27] *added to bookmarks* [03:30] ok have done FrontPage [03:30] have left the dud links for now and will look later [03:30] need to sleep now [03:31] nice one [03:31] good night [03:31] nite === mdke [~matt@mdke.user] has left #ubuntu-doc ["Leaving"] === BuffaloSoldier [~user@218.111.151.145] has joined #ubuntu-doc === BuffaloSoldier [~user@218.111.151.145] has left #ubuntu-doc ["Leaving"] === jeffsch [~jeffsch@fatwire-203-183.uniserve.ca] has left #ubuntu-doc ["gotta] === sm [~simon@lsanca1-ar5-4-60-060-085.lsanca1.dsl-verizon.net] has left #ubuntu-doc [] === enrico [~enrico@enrico.developer.debian] has joined #ubuntu-doc [11:37] Hello, good morning. [11:37] Does someone have the IRC log of the meeting after I left? [11:38] [01:42] *** enrico has left this server. ("good night!") [11:38] [01:42] did I tell you I don't like XSLT? (: [11:38] [01:42] good night enrico [11:38] [01:42] Mithrandir: did you patch it [11:38] [01:42] *** jeffsch has left this channel. ("gotta run") [11:38] [01:42] if somebody can verify that it DTRT for them, I'd appreciate it. === froud [~froud@ndn-165-131-237.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-doc [11:40] froud-away: that was it? [11:40] yep and one bug squashed [11:40] Cool! [11:40] must go I am working on other stuff === abelli [~user@48b4cd02962ef175.node.tor] has joined #ubuntu-doc [01:17] vale comites [01:18] enrico: where can i find a good manual on aptitude? [01:18] other than man pages? === HostingGeek [~HG@200.48.233.220.exetel.com.au] has left #ubuntu-doc ["Thank] [01:26] abelli: /usr/share/doc/aptitude [01:26] enrico: invaluable as always. === froud-away [~froud@ndn-165-131-237.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mdke [~matt@mdke.user] has joined #ubuntu-doc [07:57] some wiki pruning done === abelli [~user@d3981bfbf397ef9a.node.tor] has joined #ubuntu-doc === drasko [~drasko@kds9-082.ptt.yu] has joined #ubuntu-doc [09:19] hi abelli, drasko [09:21] mdke: ciao ciao [09:25] mdke, hi [09:25] hi all [09:31] drasko: ciao === mdke [~matt@mdke.user] has joined #ubuntu-doc === matt_ [~matt@81-178-127-4.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === matt_ is now known as mdke