| Burgundavia | the yelp bug makes the docs almost unreadable, IMHO | 12:02 |
|---|---|---|
| enrico | Right. | 12:02 |
| Burgundavia | what if we don't get it fixed? | 12:02 |
| froud | Plain HTML | 12:02 |
| froud | :-) | 12:02 |
| trickie | agreed | 12:02 |
| froud | Any Web Browser Compatible | 12:02 |
| Burgundavia | sounds good | 12:02 |
| Burgundavia | are we going to ship HTML anyway? | 12:02 |
| Mithrandir | Burgundavia: do you have a real help page where the yelp problem shows? | 12:02 |
| enrico | Ok. For translation we're waiting for feedback from the translation team | 12:03 |
| Mithrandir | (so I don't have to browse around for it) | 12:03 |
| Burgundavia | Mithrandir: install quickguide | 12:03 |
| enrico | Burgundavia: sure: in /usr/share/doc/<package> | 12:03 |
| enrico | Mithrandir: package is ubuntu-quickguide | 12:03 |
| trickie | enrico, i have also been looking into rebuilding xml from .po files, i'll keep ya psoted | 12:04 |
| trickie | posted | 12:04 |
| Burgundavia | look at getting started --> login in the quickguide | 12:04 |
| Burgundavia | Mithrandir: users and groups and ubuntu update manager should not be a title like that | 12:04 |
| enrico | trickie: so good! Thanks! | 12:04 |
| trickie | enrico, np at all! | 12:04 |
| enrico | I think we have a clear schedule about releasing Hoary, now | 12:05 |
| froud | one more thing | 12:05 |
| enrico | froud: sure | 12:05 |
| froud | trickie and I discussed BitTorrent | 12:05 |
| Mithrandir | Burgundavia: it's in the about ubuntu under other documentation, right? | 12:06 |
| Burgundavia | Mithrandir: yep | 12:06 |
| froud | enrico: we need to finish it | 12:06 |
| froud | http://people.ubuntu.com/~mako/docteam/status/qg-report.html | 12:06 |
| enrico | froud: ok | 12:06 |
| froud | problem is none of us know how to get started with using it | 12:07 |
| trickie | i have used it | 12:07 |
| Burgundavia | what is important about bittorrent, if I understand, is that the launcher in the menu is for sharing stuff out | 12:07 |
| froud | so I guess niether will users | 12:07 |
| froud | when you fist start it you need to specify a file | 12:07 |
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| froud | and that's where I got stuck | 12:08 |
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| trickie | froud, a torrent file? | 12:08 |
| froud | dunno I guess | 12:08 |
| trickie | i can write this bit | 12:08 |
| Burgundavia | trickie: no, it is looking for some sort of meta file to share stuff out I think | 12:08 |
| froud | and add a screencapt | 12:09 |
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| enrico | How about we just ask on #ubuntu-users for people using BitTorrent? | 12:09 |
| trickie | Burgundavia, really? i thought it was a client program | 12:09 |
| Burgundavia | bitorrent is both | 12:09 |
| === froud is now as confused as ever | ||
| Burgundavia | I just checked. It will take just a straight torrent | 12:09 |
| Burgundavia | I stand corrected | 12:09 |
| mdz | enrico: you need something from me? | 12:10 |
| Burgundavia | but the users are almost never going to actually use it that way | 12:10 |
| enrico | froud: BitTorrent is good for downlading. It speeds things up by sharing what you downloaded already, so that you find many peoplet o download from | 12:10 |
| Burgundavia | mostly they will click on links within their browsers, or double click on files in nautilus | 12:10 |
| enrico | mdz: yesterday you asked if Yelp needs fixing: it doesn | 12:10 |
| enrico | does | 12:10 |
| froud | Ok, what ever so long as somebody can write it cooorrectly | 12:10 |
| enrico | mdz: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=170074 | 12:11 |
| mdz | enrico: ok, do you have a list? | 12:11 |
| enrico | mdz: Burgundavia will post more info about htat bug | 12:11 |
| enrico | mdz: then there's the "show our docs in the front" part that you said jdub is working on | 12:11 |
| trickie | Burgundavia, you wanna do the torrent app? | 12:11 |
| trickie | Burgundavia, i just use it like you have just tested | 12:12 |
| Burgundavia | ok | 12:12 |
| Burgundavia | I can do that | 12:12 |
| froud | Burgundavia: thanks | 12:12 |
| trickie | Burgundavia, i didn't know it was integrated into nautilus etc etc | 12:12 |
| trickie | Burgundavia, excellent! | 12:12 |
| Burgundavia | should be | 12:12 |
| Burgundavia | if it isn't, it is a bug | 12:12 |
| froud | enrico: that should be all for release requirements | 12:13 |
| enrico | froud: good, I was about to say the same | 12:13 |
| enrico | Third and last point | 12:13 |
| enrico | .oO(I fear) | 12:13 |
| enrico | post Hoary! | 12:13 |
| Mithrandir | Burgundavia: ok, I understand what the bug is now -- for some reason, I had two quick guides registered and the first was _really_ broken, so it took me a bit of time | 12:13 |
| Burgundavia | Mithrandir: hmm | 12:13 |
| Burgundavia | I spewed my mind | 12:14 |
| Burgundavia | now I want to hear other peoples ideas | 12:14 |
| froud | enrico: to yelp or not to yelp | 12:14 |
| enrico | Discussing about post-hoary now is tricky | 12:14 |
| enrico | that is, we risk talking forever | 12:14 |
| froud | Discussion with Riddell | 12:14 |
| Burgundavia | that is why we discussed it last | 12:14 |
| froud | on #kubuntu | 12:14 |
| Riddell | hello | 12:15 |
| froud | kde team would also like docs | 12:15 |
| enrico | Hi Riddell ! | 12:15 |
| froud | enrico: Riddell likes Quick Guide | 12:15 |
| === Riddell ports yelp to KDE | ||
| ogra | quick guide is great :) | 12:15 |
| ogra | opposite to FAQ which is horrible | 12:15 |
| froud | Riddell: would also like doc on http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/InstallingKDE | 12:16 |
| ogra | (but thats my personal opinion) | 12:16 |
| Riddell | if we could get that guide with KDE info in it that would be great, marked so that you can convert to HTML with KDE paragraphs or with gnome ones | 12:16 |
| Burgundavia | ogra: that is faqguide from ubuntuguide.org? | 12:16 |
| enrico | Oh, now that I think about it | 12:16 |
| ogra | Burgundavia: which is as wrong as anything can be, yes | 12:16 |
| enrico | We also have to consider if we want the FAQGuide in Hoary or not | 12:16 |
| Burgundavia | ogra: good idea, but implementation | 12:16 |
| Burgundavia | s/but/bad | 12:17 |
| enrico | It's got two problems at least: | 12:17 |
| enrico | 1) It covers warty | 12:17 |
| enrico | 2) It's not in sync with what's on ubuntuguide.org | 12:17 |
| froud | enrico: it would need concerted effort of a week | 12:17 |
| Burgundavia | I would add 3. not in the ubuntu style | 12:17 |
| ogra | enrico: its not ubuntu at all | 12:17 |
| froud | enrico: for KDE do you think we can do K Quick Guide? | 12:17 |
| Burgundavia | ie, use the default apps, the graphical ones, etc. | 12:17 |
| enrico | I tried to reach Chua but he's not replying at the moment | 12:18 |
| Riddell | froud: how do you mean? | 12:18 |
| ogra | its originated from a redhat guide with very less changes | 12:18 |
| enrico | He must be busy. I hope nothing bad happened to him | 12:18 |
| ogra | and will need a LOT of changes | 12:18 |
| froud | Post hoary we should develop verion of quick guide for kde | 12:18 |
| enrico | ogra: ?? | 12:18 |
| Burgundavia | have they stablised on apps for kbuntu hoary+1 | 12:18 |
| Burgundavia | ? | 12:18 |
| enrico | ogra: the quickguide.org originated mainly from the wiki afaik | 12:19 |
| froud | Burgundavia: doesnt matter | 12:19 |
| trickie | froud, +1 | 12:19 |
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| Burgundavia | I don't use kde, but I don't see why we should exclude them | 12:19 |
| ogra | enrico: telling a user to edit xorg.conf without telling him that he cant use any automated system tool that touches the file anymore is very bad manner | 12:19 |
| Riddell | Burgundavia: we havn't stabalised on apps for hoary yet, but will do this week | 12:19 |
| enrico | So, I'm considering proposing not to package the faqguide in Hoary after all | 12:19 |
| Burgundavia | ogra: and not telling them about the graphical tool that does the job too | 12:20 |
| ogra | there are special steps to take for such an edit | 12:20 |
| ogra | Burgundavia+++ | 12:20 |
| Burgundavia | enrico: +1 | 12:20 |
| enrico | ogra: did you send a mail to Chua telling thim a better way for it? | 12:20 |
| trickie | enrico, +1 | 12:20 |
| ogra | enrico: several, he always told me he would correct it, he never did | 12:20 |
| ogra | that was at the beginning or warty | 12:20 |
| Burgundavia | ok, but I feel there is a niche there that we should fill | 12:20 |
| enrico | ogra: remember he had *Dengue fever* | 12:21 |
| === froud wonders if this can be done in time for hoary | ||
| ogra | its good as an advanced guide for people who know what they are doing | 12:21 |
| === froud knows ploves took some tim eto do it | ||
| enrico | ogra: that's quite a bad one to have. It got him stuck quite severely | 12:21 |
| Burgundavia | as ubuntuguide.org and the FAQ forums aren't giving good advice | 12:21 |
| ogra | enrico: since when, we talked oin oct 2004 till nov 2004 | 12:21 |
| enrico | ogra: after the conf in Matar | 12:22 |
| ogra | enrico: so we talked long before.... | 12:22 |
| enrico | He was fine after the Tsunami and for new Year's Day | 12:22 |
| enrico | he got sick after that | 12:22 |
| Burgundavia | so can we take the faqguide and ubuntuize it? I would be happy to lead this effort | 12:22 |
| froud | enrico: FAQ GUIDE should be in Docbook FAQ format | 12:23 |
| enrico | Burgundavia: I tried to sync with Chua to do that together | 12:23 |
| ogra | enrico: i was doing a lot of support in #ubuntu at this time and was tired of fixing the broken systems that resulted from following the guide | 12:23 |
| enrico | ogra: ok | 12:23 |
| ogra | enrico: bob2 is still doing this support job, you guys should get him in the process | 12:23 |
| froud | Burgundavia: can you do it in <!DOCTYPE faq | 12:24 |
| Burgundavia | froud: I can learn | 12:24 |
| enrico | ogra: support! | 12:24 |
| ogra | yay | 12:24 |
| froud | +1 | 12:24 |
| enrico | ogra: I didn't know there was someone doing support especially | 12:24 |
| enrico | ogra: the docteam should really be in touch with people doing support | 12:24 |
| ogra | enrico: i have the choice betwenn support and devel.... :) i moved on :) | 12:24 |
| ogra | but will go into support again after release..... to fill the gap :) | 12:25 |
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| Burgundavia | froud: hard to do, when more and more of what you want to show people is gui-based | 12:26 |
| enrico | ogra: it's imperative to have support in touch with docteam | 12:26 |
| froud | I would like to know what people think of staying neutral | 12:26 |
| Liz | neutral | 12:26 |
| enrico | docteam can help support (such has, with relevant FAQs) and support helps the docteam (for example, providing the list of relevan questions) | 12:26 |
| ogra | enrico: i know, thats why i attend this meeting ;) | 12:26 |
| trickie | froud, it would be great, but i do not know exactly how we would do it | 12:26 |
| froud | Th eproblem is the incompatability between khelpcenter and yelp | 12:27 |
| enrico | what format does khelpcenter eat? | 12:27 |
| froud | if we use things like ghelp:foo we get locked to yelp | 12:27 |
| froud | html | 12:27 |
| froud | xhtml | 12:27 |
| trickie | froud, oh, you are talking about doc format? not screenshots etc | 12:27 |
| froud | man | 12:27 |
| enrico | froud: ok | 12:28 |
| froud | yes | 12:28 |
| froud | I dont care about hthe presentation layers | 12:28 |
| froud | they dont exist | 12:28 |
| froud | so long at the src can be used cross desktop I am happy | 12:28 |
| === enrico had a long day and is quite tired | ||
| Burgundavia | so to round up this part: | 12:29 |
| Burgundavia | 1. talk to support people | 12:29 |
| trickie | I really like html based docs, i can use them anywhere, including when i am not using a linux desktop at all | 12:29 |
| Burgundavia | 2. desktop neutral docs | 12:29 |
| Burgundavia | 3. ubuntuize faqguide, with screenshots | 12:29 |
| froud | 4. K Quick Guide | 12:30 |
| Burgundavia | One further thing, we should have a better web presence for these docs | 12:30 |
| froud | How do people feel about LearnLinux with Ubuntu | 12:30 |
| trickie | froud, i like it | 12:30 |
| froud | http://learnlinux.tsf.org.za/ | 12:30 |
| froud | The src is there | 12:30 |
| trickie | 5. We need a trnaslation support policy too | 12:31 |
| froud | I have a drop in my local and am customizing | 12:31 |
| drasko | froud, I am interested | 12:31 |
| froud | are people ok if I commit the src at some point | 12:31 |
| Liz | ive already started that course | 12:31 |
| froud | Liz: cool | 12:31 |
| froud | I havked the code | 12:32 |
| froud | I have forked the code | 12:32 |
| froud | I also have a fork for a glossary database | 12:32 |
| Burgundavia | cool idea | 12:32 |
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| jeffsch | it sounds like a great idea | 12:32 |
| froud | http://computerdictionary.tsf.org.za/ | 12:33 |
| froud | this is a fork from TLDP Linux Dictionary | 12:33 |
| froud | both docs are under CC-BY-SA 2.0 | 12:33 |
| froud | we have a dual license policy | 12:33 |
| froud | anyone see any problems here | 12:33 |
| Burgundavia | ? | 12:34 |
| Burgundavia | aside from the cc and gfdl are not compatible? | 12:34 |
| froud | http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DocteamLicense | 12:34 |
| Burgundavia | we can make an exception for this stuff | 12:34 |
| froud | mako: ping | 12:35 |
| enrico | the original idea ws to make a web alias | 12:35 |
| froud | yes | 12:35 |
| froud | enrico: do you still want it that way? | 12:36 |
| enrico | but that hasn't been made yet | 12:36 |
| froud | enrico: leanlinux needs some work to become ubuntu | 12:36 |
| froud | but the base is debain | 12:36 |
| froud | debian | 12:36 |
| enrico | we basically have to decide what to put into the web alias site | 12:37 |
| froud | how do you mean | 12:37 |
| trickie | enrico, 'web alias site', what is that? | 12:37 |
| enrico | froud: the web alias pointing at mako's pages, which does not exist yet, but was in Mako's and Elmo's | 12:38 |
| enrico | sotty: | 12:38 |
| enrico | It was ot mako's and mine intentions | 12:38 |
| froud | enrico: you lostme | 12:39 |
| enrico | froud: that's because I'm barely awake now | 12:39 |
| enrico | you were asking about the web presence | 12:39 |
| froud | hey dude its 1:30 am and I now hav emy second wind | 12:39 |
| enrico | I told the original way was to make a nice web alias pointing at mkako's wbespace | 12:39 |
| froud | r we speaking about the same stuff here | 12:39 |
| Burgundavia | why don't we meet again and discuss this | 12:39 |
| trickie | Burgundavia, +1 | 12:40 |
| Burgundavia | we have some stuff decided | 12:40 |
| enrico | wouldn't be a bad idea | 12:40 |
| enrico | right. We have everything for releasing Hoary | 12:40 |
| jeffsch | it is very sunny here | 12:40 |
| enrico | I do have one concern though | 12:40 |
| enrico | that is: | 12:40 |
| enrico | We now picked up rhythm by writing in the QuickGuide. Now that's almost finished: how do we keep up teh rhythm? | 12:40 |
| jeffsch | what is next thing that needs to be complete? | 12:41 |
| trickie | I would like to start getting into the Admin guide | 12:41 |
| froud | continue with either FAQ, ADMIN or USER | 12:41 |
| froud | and or LearnLinux | 12:41 |
| trickie | and also working with enrico to get translations working | 12:41 |
| enrico | i'd also like to lay our hands on some upstream documentation | 12:41 |
| froud | we have problems in that area | 12:42 |
| jeffsch | and is it too early to think about a style guide? | 12:42 |
| enrico | Like, improbing the Gnome User Manual and other existnig docu | 12:42 |
| enrico | but yes, that'd change our process in sme way | 12:42 |
| froud | upstream is scattered far and wide | 12:42 |
| froud | today I wante dto fix stuff in synaptic | 12:42 |
| froud | which repos to patch against | 12:43 |
| froud | mako points to mvo | 12:43 |
| froud | does mvo have own snapshot | 12:43 |
| froud | or do I go to top src | 12:43 |
| froud | https://oops.kerneljanitors.org/repos/synaptic/trunk/help/C/ | 12:44 |
| froud | this question arises time and again | 12:44 |
| froud | which GNOME User Manual to Update | 12:44 |
| froud | the one in gnome.org | 12:44 |
| froud | or the one in some ubuntu repos | 12:45 |
| froud | lord knows which one | 12:45 |
| froud | working at the fringes changes our focus | 12:45 |
| froud | away from ubuntu-doc | 12:45 |
| trickie | so could we say our immediate concerns are FAQ, ADMIN, USER and LearnLinux? | 12:45 |
| enrico | FAQ I'd like to coordinate with Chua before doing stuff | 12:46 |
| trickie | not necessarily in that order | 12:46 |
| froud | I go +1 on the list in http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DocteamProjects | 12:46 |
| froud | and if people want LearnLinux I will add it | 12:46 |
| enrico | Peple, I can't make it | 12:46 |
| trickie | yes | 12:47 |
| enrico | It's been the 5th time I deleted garbage from the input line | 12:47 |
| trickie | +1` me too | 12:47 |
| froud | anyone else agree | 12:47 |
| jeffsch | it is too sunny and warm here: I must go outside | 12:47 |
| froud | enrico: go sleep | 12:47 |
| enrico | garbage that came in because I was typing half-asleep, or just fell asleep before taking one finger off a key | 12:47 |
| enrico | i'll pick up the logs tomorrow and make the minuites | 12:48 |
| froud | ok | 12:48 |
| trickie | ok... well lets call it quits for now | 12:48 |
| froud | Burgundavia: r u +1 | 12:48 |
| froud | jeffsch: and you | 12:48 |
| froud | Liz: and you | 12:48 |
| jeffsch | +1 | 12:48 |
| enrico | I'd say thank you everyoen for attending, if you want to go on, I'll make the minutes of what I'll find in the logs | 12:49 |
| froud | Ok thanks enrico | 12:49 |
| ogra | enrico: sleep well | 12:49 |
| sm | hi all - can I ask one other thing, what's the preferred new naming scheme for the icon files in the wiki ? any constraints on those names which must be honoured ? | 12:49 |
| trickie | enrico, sllep well! | 12:49 |
| enrico | it's been a really good meeting | 12:49 |
| trickie | sleep | 12:49 |
| Mithrandir | I think somebody owes me beer. | 12:49 |
| Liz | nite enrico | 12:49 |
| Mithrandir | I've found and fixed the yelp bug. | 12:49 |
| === enrico hands Mithrandir a beer | ||
| === enrico hands Mithrandir LOTS of beers | ||
| trickie | Mithrandir, awesome! | 12:50 |
| === froud passes Mithrandir a beer | ||
| ogra | Mithrandir: youre the master | 12:50 |
| drasko | enrico, good nigh | 12:50 |
| enrico | do please get back to sm about the naming scheme for icons | 12:50 |
| Burgundavia | yep | 12:50 |
| Liz | =1 | 12:50 |
| enrico | he made images work in Moin! | 12:50 |
| Liz | +1 | 12:50 |
| === froud kicks enrico into bed | ||
| enrico | now he just needs to know how to name them | 12:51 |
| === enrico rolls over to the bed | ||
| Mithrandir | change /usr/share/xml/gnome/xslt/docbook/html/db2html-xref.xsl ; <xsl:apply-templates select="key('idkey', $endterm)" /> to <xsl:value-of select="key('idkey', $endterm)" /> | 12:51 |
| enrico | People, good night! | 12:51 |
| sm | simplest think is IconBookmarksClosed -> BookmarksClosed.png, I'll do that then | 12:51 |
| Mithrandir | did I tell you I don't like XSLT? (: | 12:51 |
| jeffsch | good night enrico | 12:51 |
| froud | Mithrandir: did you patch it | 12:51 |
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| Mithrandir | if somebody can verify that it DTRT for them, I'd appreciate it. | 12:51 |
| Mithrandir | froud: it seems to do the right thing for me, but I'd like verification before uploading a fix | 12:52 |
| froud | ok | 12:52 |
| trickie | Mithrandir, im not on my hoary box... sorry | 12:52 |
| Mithrandir | froud: can you make the change and verify that it works for you? | 12:53 |
| Mithrandir | Burgundavia: or you? | 12:53 |
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| froud | yep hang ten | 12:53 |
| trickie | well ladies and gentlemen, unless someone wants to talk more doc with me, i must bid a good day/night | 12:53 |
| YokoZar | wait | 12:53 |
| YokoZar | I just have something | 12:53 |
| YokoZar | Ok, I'm writing a scrollkeeper OMF file to put the Wine documentation in a standard place so it's viewable from the help menu. The trouble is I'm having trouble figuring out what category to place it in from the list at ( /usr/share/scrollkeeper/Templates/C/scrollkeeper_cl.xml ) - is it possible to add an entry to that list, or is there one I should pick from? | 12:53 |
| YokoZar | Since I heard there's a doc meeting here...perhaps a doc team member can point me in the right direction? | 12:54 |
| trickie | YokoZar, Sorry i have never seen or contemplated an OMF file in my life. think enrico (or Sean?) has been doing that for us | 12:55 |
| === Liz has no idea about OMF at all | ||
| YokoZar | Well, how about this question then: when I go to the help menu and click applications, where should the Wine documentation show up? | 12:56 |
| YokoZar | (this is what I'm configuring in the OMF file, I think) | 12:57 |
| trickie | i am not sure, but i would have thought it would have been in system or something and not applications? | 12:57 |
| trickie | YokoZar, really though, i have no idea | 12:58 |
| YokoZar | Hmm, ok. I'll just put it alongside the Evolution User guide and deal with it later when we have a better idea about how the Wine interface will look to the user | 12:58 |
| froud | Mithrandir: I can confirm that it works | 12:58 |
| === froud hands Mithrandir a case of beer | ||
| Mithrandir | froud: rock! | 12:59 |
| froud | Mithrandir: thanks a million | 01:00 |
| Mithrandir | can somebody who has a gnome bugzilla account submit http://err.no/patches/yelp_handle_endterm_db2html-xref.xsl.diff as a patch for it? | 01:00 |
| froud | ok | 01:00 |
| === ogra opens the gate and waves in the beertruck for Mithrandir | ||
| Mithrandir | it's so much easier to give people a patch than to say "please change foo in bar" | 01:00 |
| Mithrandir | ogra: trying to drown me? :) | 01:00 |
| ogra | hehe | 01:00 |
| ogra | Mithrandir: just put it in the storage ;) | 01:01 |
| Mithrandir | my fridge is actually still quite full after all the beer I brought home after FOSDEM. | 01:01 |
| mdke | is the doc meeting still active? | 01:01 |
| Mithrandir | but, it's 0100 here now, so I'm off to bed. | 01:01 |
| === Liz just found out what OMF is ..heh | ||
| Liz | nite Mithrandir | 01:01 |
| Liz | im gonna go enjoy the sunshine here | 01:01 |
| mdke | guess not huh | 01:02 |
| trickie | mdke, just sorta stopped being a meeting | 01:02 |
| trickie | but i think people are around | 01:02 |
| mdke | bah | 01:02 |
| mdke | i suck | 01:02 |
| mdke | someone will make up minutes i guess? | 01:03 |
| trickie | mdke, yep | 01:03 |
| mdke | :) | 01:03 |
| trickie | :) | 01:03 |
| trickie | well i am outta here, see ya all! | 01:03 |
| froud | Mithrandir: done http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=170074 | 01:06 |
| froud | well team good noght | 01:06 |
| froud | night | 01:06 |
| mdke | night mate | 01:06 |
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