| mdke | ideal time for a 2doh" | 12:03 |
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| sm | but if she wants it to be private and not editable by others - no, we don't currently allow that | 12:03 |
| mdke | *"doh" | 12:03 |
| sm | private member folders are turned off | 12:03 |
| mdke | i don't think it needs to be private certainly | 12:03 |
| mdke | may gmane waits for the email to catch up with a timezone before posting? surely not? | 12:03 |
| mdke | *maybe | 12:04 |
| sm | no | 12:04 |
| sm | got it now | 12:04 |
| sm | but not mine, yet | 12:04 |
| mdke | 9 minutes late | 12:04 |
| mdke | could be worse | 12:05 |
| sm | I'll reply to her | 12:05 |
| mdke | kthx | 12:05 |
| mdke | how well organised is her email technique? awesome | 12:05 |
| mdke | ok i just got two emails marked 14.49 and 15.56 | 12:08 |
| mdke | its 23.08 | 12:08 |
| sm | something slow at gmane today | 12:16 |
| sm | quick answer for you: http://wiki.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/recycle_bin/HowTo | 12:16 |
| mdke | ty | 12:17 |
| mdke | guess those emails were moderated | 12:17 |
| mdke | got your emails now thanks | 12:34 |
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| mdke | anyone around? | 03:06 |
| jsgotangco | hello | 04:03 |
| jsgotangco | ack | 04:03 |
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| froud | African Greetings | 06:39 |
| jgotangco_lunch | greets | 06:39 |
| froud | hello jsgotangco, you are new, we have have not met. I am Sean | 06:40 |
| jsgotangco | hello sean yes I am new, I am Jerome | 06:41 |
| jsgotangco | i kinda hanged out because of the moin moin stuff | 06:41 |
| Burgundavia | salut | 06:41 |
| jsgotangco | :) | 06:41 |
| froud | Burgundavia: hello how r you | 06:41 |
| Burgundavia | not bad | 06:41 |
| jsgotangco | just had lunch here | 06:41 |
| froud | Did you see the round tripping message | 06:41 |
| Burgundavia | yes | 06:41 |
| froud | what do you think? | 06:41 |
| Burgundavia | I haven't had a chance to respond | 06:41 |
| Burgundavia | Got about 15-20 emails to dig through first | 06:42 |
| froud | OK, did you look at the system | 06:42 |
| Burgundavia | on my list of things to do | 06:42 |
| froud | jsgotangco: are you helping us with the docs? | 06:42 |
| jsgotangco | i'm helping out with the wiki | 06:43 |
| jsgotangco | but i just started out a few weeks ago | 06:43 |
| froud | jsgotangco: that's good | 06:43 |
| froud | Burgundavia: OK | 06:43 |
| froud | Burgundavia: from what I can see the solution is still very raw | 06:43 |
| froud | Burgundavia: it needs more devel to support a number of things | 06:44 |
| jsgotangco | i was invited to do this presentation about ubuntu | 06:44 |
| jsgotangco | but i haven't even started yet | 06:44 |
| jsgotangco | hehe | 06:44 |
| froud | jsgotangco: which presentation | 06:44 |
| jsgotangco | oh just a local one | 06:44 |
| jsgotangco | here in philippines | 06:44 |
| froud | For school | 06:44 |
| jsgotangco | yes | 06:44 |
| froud | Cool stuff | 06:44 |
| jsgotangco | i dont want to make it too technical | 06:45 |
| jsgotangco | maybe i can do a hoary preview | 06:45 |
| froud | looks like ubuntu is getting pretty big in the Philippines | 06:45 |
| jsgotangco | it has a following | 06:45 |
| froud | that's good to here | 06:45 |
| jsgotangco | people here are kind of getting aware to FOSS now | 06:45 |
| froud | hear | 06:45 |
| jsgotangco | i mean we have a terrible fiscal budget to start with | 06:46 |
| jsgotangco | it fits to a tee | 06:46 |
| froud | :-) | 06:46 |
| jsgotangco | there are a lot of GOOD programmers here but they are only good at programming not for advocacy | 06:47 |
| jsgotangco | hehe | 06:47 |
| jsgotangco | we're trying to change that | 06:47 |
| froud | yes, go-to-market is a new thing in the Linux world | 06:47 |
| froud | We are all learning as we go along | 06:48 |
| froud | but we are seeing much interest | 06:48 |
| jsgotangco | its exciting to be part of a growing segment | 06:48 |
| froud | many people stating to use Linux | 06:48 |
| froud | yes, its better than building a business in a saturated segment | 06:49 |
| jsgotangco | true | 06:49 |
| jsgotangco | i want to show you a local news article | 06:49 |
| froud | but alas oneday it will be the same for us | 06:49 |
| froud | ok | 06:49 |
| jsgotangco | hold on let me get that article | 06:49 |
| jsgotangco | froud: when that time comes, we have already moved to other ventures lol | 06:50 |
| froud | If you want to see what's hapening on the African continent look at http://www.tectonic.co.za/ | 06:50 |
| froud | yep, that's it | 06:50 |
| jsgotangco | where is .za? | 06:50 |
| froud | South Africa | 06:51 |
| jsgotangco | here it is | 06:51 |
| jsgotangco | http://news.inq7.net/infotech/index.php?index=1&story_id=30571 | 06:51 |
| jsgotangco | oh the prison siege has ended | 06:51 |
| jsgotangco | we had a hostage situation that happened here since yesterday | 06:51 |
| jsgotangco | well anyway read that article i dunno if i want to laugh or just dismiss it as FUD | 06:52 |
| froud | Well I dont want to see windows apps running on Linux | 06:53 |
| froud | I cant see the point | 06:53 |
| froud | and the danger is | 06:53 |
| jsgotangco | yeah i mean | 06:53 |
| jsgotangco | if youre migrating | 06:53 |
| jsgotangco | make a good migration plan | 06:53 |
| froud | people will insall MS Office on Linux | 06:53 |
| froud | ouch | 06:53 |
| jsgotangco | its like the cedega thing | 06:54 |
| froud | Soon as MS gets thier claws into things they start taking over | 06:54 |
| froud | and then it is no longer free | 06:54 |
| jsgotangco | its just business hype for them | 06:54 |
| froud | sure | 06:55 |
| jsgotangco | just taking advantage of the growing interest of business here | 06:55 |
| jsgotangco | with linux | 06:55 |
| froud | yes | 06:55 |
| froud | well I am off to hack some docs before the day begins | 06:55 |
| froud | nice meeting you | 06:55 |
| jsgotangco | later | 06:56 |
| froud | Burgundavia: later dude | 06:56 |
| Burgundavia | cya | 06:56 |
| froud | http://www.tectonic.co.za/view.php?id=424 | 07:04 |
| froud | seems somebody took our release notes and made a transcript from them | 07:04 |
| jsgotangco | hmm | 07:08 |
| jsgotangco | its exactly the same | 07:08 |
| froud | jsgotangco: yes | 07:10 |
| froud | I just realized that we have not mentioned kubuntu in the release notes | 07:11 |
| jsgotangco | hmm that too | 07:11 |
| froud | Burgundavia: come to kde dude:-) | 07:37 |
| froud | Burgundavia: please no top posting. If you gonna top post delete the stuff from the original message ;-) | 07:38 |
| Burgundavia | sorry | 07:40 |
| Burgundavia | I just happen to like Gnome a lot more than KDE | 07:40 |
| Burgundavia | it is also default, and all studies show that most users never change the default of any program | 07:41 |
| froud | each to his own in that respect | 07:41 |
| Burgundavia | I like the fact that there are 2 | 07:41 |
| Burgundavia | and I like freedesktop.org | 07:41 |
| froud | not me I run them both and some other desktops ;-) | 07:41 |
| Burgundavia | which wouldn't exist if their weren't 2 | 07:41 |
| Burgundavia | froud: I am currently working on the bittorrent para | 07:44 |
| Burgundavia | But I am not liking my writing right now | 07:44 |
| Burgundavia | Should I have 2 paras? | 07:44 |
| Burgundavia | 1. expliant bt | 07:44 |
| Burgundavia | 2. how to do it | 07:44 |
| froud | so mark it as review and we will pick it up | 07:44 |
| Burgundavia | ok | 07:44 |
| Burgundavia | is this a known issue? xsl:import : unable to load /usr/share/xml/docbook/stylesheet/nwalsh/xhtml/chunk.xsl | 07:47 |
| Burgundavia | from the check-before commit program | 07:47 |
| froud | yes | 07:48 |
| froud | which os you on | 07:48 |
| Burgundavia | ubuntu hoary | 07:49 |
| Burgundavia | gnome | 07:49 |
| Burgundavia | pretty much a default install | 07:49 |
| Burgundavia | can I commit though, is the question | 07:49 |
| froud | update /libs/html-cust.xsl | 07:49 |
| froud | use /usr/share/xml/docbook/stylesheet/nwalsh/current/html/profile-chunk.xsl | 07:49 |
| froud | oops | 07:50 |
| froud | use /usr/share/xml/docbook/stylesheet/nwalsh/current/html/chunk.xsl | 07:50 |
| froud | You will find that it is already there just commented | 07:50 |
| Burgundavia | ah | 07:50 |
| Burgundavia | why is that by default? | 07:50 |
| froud | please commit back the change | 07:50 |
| froud | may bad | 07:50 |
| Burgundavia | ok, will do | 07:50 |
| froud | thanks | 07:51 |
| froud | I am hacking on SuSE | 07:51 |
| froud | and the xsls are installe din the correct place | 07:51 |
| froud | on SuSE | 07:51 |
| Burgundavia | but not on ubuntu? | 07:51 |
| froud | Debian still uses the old location | 07:51 |
| Burgundavia | ah | 07:51 |
| froud | I will move over once I am happy with kubuntu;-) | 07:52 |
| Burgundavia | so switch the comments? | 07:52 |
| froud | Yes | 07:52 |
| Burgundavia | doing now | 07:52 |
| froud | thanks | 07:52 |
| froud | we should use a catalog resolver, but catalogs on hoary are broken | 07:53 |
| Burgundavia | are there bugs filed for this? | 07:53 |
| froud | don'task why | 07:53 |
| froud | yes | 07:53 |
| Burgundavia | ok | 07:53 |
| Burgundavia | faqguide is borked, but your email explains that | 07:53 |
| froud | yes, I will fix things today sometime | 07:53 |
| Burgundavia | comitted | 07:54 |
| Burgundavia | s/committed/comitted | 07:54 |
| Burgundavia | damn that word screws me up every time | 07:54 |
| froud | he he, no worries, it's irc we understand ;-) | 07:56 |
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| Burgundavia | byte.fedore? | 08:32 |
| cc | hi. i'm Colin Charles. | 08:32 |
| cc | a general fedora person, possibly doing some Ubuntu documentation | 08:33 |
| Burgundavia | welcome | 08:33 |
| cc | mainly in the form of a livecd sorta thing | 08:33 |
| Burgundavia | what sort of livecd? | 08:33 |
| froud | Burgundavia: Ubuntu ships a liveCD | 08:35 |
| froud | cc: welcome | 08:35 |
| Burgundavia | I realize that | 08:35 |
| cc | i know; i might want to update something in regards to it | 08:35 |
| Burgundavia | cool | 08:36 |
| froud | not sure.... you produce a live CD of your own or you want to do someting in regard to UbuntuLive CD | 08:36 |
| jsgotangco | the livecd is ok | 08:45 |
| froud | jsgotangco: ok so what do you have in mind? | 08:48 |
| jsgotangco | well the livecd is a great way to introduce to potential users but what the ubuntu livecd lacks is some sort of documentation or howto at startup like what knoppix has sort of | 08:52 |
| jsgotangco | at least a welocome page or something | 08:52 |
| jsgotangco | i dunno knoppix just nails it down when it comes to livecds | 08:53 |
| froud | jsgotangco: our live cd just loads the desktop | 08:55 |
| froud | then you can use System > About Ubuntu to open the intro doc in Firefox | 08:56 |
| froud | well whatever you want send a proposal to the list | 08:56 |
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| froud | b c'ing ya | 08:56 |
| froud | ;-) | 08:56 |
| Kinnison | Morning all | 09:07 |
| froud-work | morn | 09:07 |
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| Burgundavia | hey | 01:41 |
| mdke | hi | 01:42 |
| === Kinnison glares at Burgundavia | ||
| Kinnison | Burgundavia: I have new toys! | 01:43 |
| Kinnison | Burgundavia: two external and one internal battery for my laptop | 01:43 |
| Kinnison | Burgundavia: so I have a plausible 15-16 hours battery life | 01:43 |
| Burgundavia | Kinnison: hey | 01:45 |
| Burgundavia | Kinnison: cool | 01:45 |
| Kinnison | Burgundavia: this is also known as "how to try and make the trip to .au not stink | 01:46 |
| Burgundavia | Kinnison: ah right | 01:48 |
| Burgundavia | Kinnison: what a mess this Eugenia stuff has been eh? | 01:49 |
| Kinnison | Eugenia? | 01:49 |
| Burgundavia | Osnew flap over gnome not listening to users | 01:49 |
| Burgundavia | s/Osnew/Osnews | 01:50 |
| Kinnison | not seen it | 01:50 |
| Burgundavia | yes you have | 01:51 |
| Burgundavia | read planet.gnome recently? | 01:51 |
| Kinnison | no | 01:51 |
| Burgundavia | ah | 01:52 |
| Burgundavia | little tempest in a tea pot over eugenia trying to start up a users pay for features they want thing | 01:52 |
| Burgundavia | and then users telling her, quite rightly, that it is a stupid idea | 01:52 |
| Kinnison | heh | 01:53 |
| mdke | oh yeah i saw that in slashdot | 01:53 |
| Burgundavia | really really stupid, but it gots lot of people worked up over it | 01:53 |
| mdke | 600 posts or something | 01:53 |
| Burgundavia | it was misreprensented in Slash | 01:53 |
| Burgundavia | as was the debian dropping archs thing | 01:54 |
| mdke | isn't everything | 01:54 |
| Burgundavia | as usual for slash | 01:54 |
| mdke | :) | 01:54 |
| mdke | how are things going? | 01:55 |
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| mdke | ok i've started a wiki page for discussion about a new structure | 02:24 |
| mdke | damn can't remember the title | 02:24 |
| mdke | its under MatthewEast | 02:25 |
| mdke | gtg now | 02:25 |
| mdke | later all | 02:25 |
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| froud-work | what would be the quickest and easiest way to specify either gdm or kdm on ubuntu | 03:22 |
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| mf- | is anyone awake? | 03:49 |
| froud-work | yes | 03:53 |
| mf- | anywhere around here i can get help on installing xpde on ubuntu? | 03:54 |
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| froud-work | mf-: I have not seen any docs on how to do that | 03:55 |
| froud-work | you like xpde? | 03:55 |
| mdke | hi boys and girls | 03:56 |
| mf- | dunno, can't get it working | 03:56 |
| mf- | first time i've ever used ubuntu tonight | 03:56 |
| mf- | so i'm just checking things out | 03:56 |
| froud-work | why not try kde | 03:56 |
| mdke | froud-work, btw do you work on kubuntu, other than docs? | 03:56 |
| mf- | because i've used kde before | 03:56 |
| froud-work | sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop | 03:57 |
| froud-work | mf-: ok | 03:57 |
| froud-work | mdke: yes | 03:57 |
| mf- | ;) | 03:57 |
| mf- | i haven't used nix in a long time, i don't really remember much | 03:57 |
| froud-work | If you get it working let me know I will document it for you | 03:57 |
| mf- | k | 03:57 |
| froud-work | Windows user? | 03:58 |
| mdke | froud-work, came across a user in ubuntu-it that had an enormous bug, opening a root terminal from the menu crashes on him | 03:58 |
| mf- | who, me? | 03:58 |
| froud-work | mf-: yes you | 03:58 |
| mdke | lets not get abusive ;p | 03:58 |
| mf- | used to use nix on every machine i owned | 03:58 |
| mf- | but i slowly drifted away | 03:58 |
| mf- | now realising the error of my ways, :) | 03:58 |
| === Kinnison uses Ubuntu on all his systems :-) | ||
| mf- | i only just got hold of ubuntu | 03:59 |
| froud-work | "i haven't used nix in a long time" | 03:59 |
| mf- | been wanting to check it out for a while | 03:59 |
| mf- | correct | 03:59 |
| mdke | hi Kinnison | 03:59 |
| Kinnison | mf-: You got the hoary preview? | 03:59 |
| froud-work | well welcome back | 03:59 |
| Kinnison | mdke: Hi | 03:59 |
| mf- | huh? | 03:59 |
| Kinnison | mf-: What release of Ubuntu have you got? | 03:59 |
| Kinnison | mf-: 4.10 or 5.04(preview) ? | 03:59 |
| mf- | no idea | 03:59 |
| froud-work | mf-: which version of ubuntu do you have? | 03:59 |
| mf- | got it on a cd with a magazine | 04:00 |
| froud-work | 4.10 | 04:00 |
| mdke | 4.10 then | 04:00 |
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| mf- | apparently so | 04:00 |
| mf- | lol | 04:00 |
| froud-work | install and then update to hoary | 04:00 |
| mf- | what ver is that | 04:00 |
| froud-work | 5.04 | 04:00 |
| mf- | ahh | 04:00 |
| Kinnison | 5.04 will be released in about three and a half weeks | 04:01 |
| mf- | i'm only running it in vmware at the moment | 04:01 |
| mf- | so i'll probably install it properly in a few days :) i'll do it then | 04:01 |
| froud-work | mf-: cummon trach that ntfs partition | 04:01 |
| mf- | i plan on it | 04:01 |
| froud-work | :-) | 04:01 |
| froud-work | cool | 04:01 |
| froud-work | welcome back | 04:01 |
| mf- | hehe | 04:02 |
| mf- | thanks :) | 04:02 |
| froud-work | and remember when you figure out how to install xpde, let me know | 04:02 |
| mf- | will do | 04:02 |
| mf- | perhaps music will help | 04:03 |
| mdke | i tell you what i recommend | 04:14 |
| mdke | wiki editing in IE | 04:15 |
| mdke | its a dream come true | 04:15 |
| mdke | /sarcasm off | 04:15 |
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| mf- | lol | 04:29 |
| mf- | hrmm | 04:31 |
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| === Topic (#ubuntu-doc): set by sivang at Sat Jan 1 20:48:30 2005 | ||
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| mdke | ciao enrico | 09:43 |
| enrico | ciao! | 09:43 |
| mdke | enrico, sai come funziona zopeedit? | 09:52 |
| enrico | mdke: mai usato :( | 09:52 |
| mdke | np | 09:52 |
| mdke | stresso simon | 09:52 |
| mdke | non c'e' | 09:52 |
| mdke | >_< | 09:52 |
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