[12:03] ideal time for a 2doh" [12:03] but if she wants it to be private and not editable by others - no, we don't currently allow that [12:03] *"doh" [12:03] private member folders are turned off [12:03] i don't think it needs to be private certainly [12:03] may gmane waits for the email to catch up with a timezone before posting? surely not? [12:04] *maybe [12:04] no [12:04] got it now [12:04] but not mine, yet [12:04] 9 minutes late [12:05] could be worse [12:05] I'll reply to her [12:05] kthx [12:05] how well organised is her email technique? awesome [12:08] ok i just got two emails marked 14.49 and 15.56 [12:08] its 23.08 [12:16] something slow at gmane today [12:16] quick answer for you: http://wiki.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/recycle_bin/HowTo [12:17] ty [12:17] guess those emails were moderated [12:34] got your emails now thanks === jsgotangco [~jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mdke [~matt@mdke.user] has joined #ubuntu-doc [03:06] anyone around? [04:03] hello [04:03] ack === jsgotangco [~jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Burgundavia [~Burgundav@S0106000000cc07fc.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Burgundavia [~Burgundav@S0106000000cc07fc.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [06:39] African Greetings [06:39] greets [06:40] hello jsgotangco, you are new, we have have not met. I am Sean [06:41] hello sean yes I am new, I am Jerome [06:41] i kinda hanged out because of the moin moin stuff [06:41] salut [06:41] :) [06:41] Burgundavia: hello how r you [06:41] not bad [06:41] just had lunch here [06:41] Did you see the round tripping message [06:41] yes [06:41] what do you think? [06:41] I haven't had a chance to respond [06:42] Got about 15-20 emails to dig through first [06:42] OK, did you look at the system [06:42] on my list of things to do [06:42] jsgotangco: are you helping us with the docs? [06:43] i'm helping out with the wiki [06:43] but i just started out a few weeks ago [06:43] jsgotangco: that's good [06:43] Burgundavia: OK [06:43] Burgundavia: from what I can see the solution is still very raw [06:44] Burgundavia: it needs more devel to support a number of things [06:44] i was invited to do this presentation about ubuntu [06:44] but i haven't even started yet [06:44] hehe [06:44] jsgotangco: which presentation [06:44] oh just a local one [06:44] here in philippines [06:44] For school [06:44] yes [06:44] Cool stuff [06:45] i dont want to make it too technical [06:45] maybe i can do a hoary preview [06:45] looks like ubuntu is getting pretty big in the Philippines [06:45] it has a following [06:45] that's good to here [06:45] people here are kind of getting aware to FOSS now [06:45] hear [06:46] i mean we have a terrible fiscal budget to start with [06:46] it fits to a tee [06:46] :-) [06:47] there are a lot of GOOD programmers here but they are only good at programming not for advocacy [06:47] hehe [06:47] we're trying to change that [06:47] yes, go-to-market is a new thing in the Linux world [06:48] We are all learning as we go along [06:48] but we are seeing much interest [06:48] its exciting to be part of a growing segment [06:48] many people stating to use Linux [06:49] yes, its better than building a business in a saturated segment [06:49] true [06:49] i want to show you a local news article [06:49] but alas oneday it will be the same for us [06:49] ok [06:49] hold on let me get that article [06:50] froud: when that time comes, we have already moved to other ventures lol [06:50] If you want to see what's hapening on the African continent look at http://www.tectonic.co.za/ [06:50] yep, that's it [06:50] where is .za? [06:51] South Africa [06:51] here it is [06:51] http://news.inq7.net/infotech/index.php?index=1&story_id=30571 [06:51] oh the prison siege has ended [06:51] we had a hostage situation that happened here since yesterday [06:52] well anyway read that article i dunno if i want to laugh or just dismiss it as FUD [06:53] Well I dont want to see windows apps running on Linux [06:53] I cant see the point [06:53] and the danger is [06:53] yeah i mean [06:53] if youre migrating [06:53] make a good migration plan [06:53] people will insall MS Office on Linux [06:53] ouch [06:54] its like the cedega thing [06:54] Soon as MS gets thier claws into things they start taking over [06:54] and then it is no longer free [06:54] its just business hype for them [06:55] sure [06:55] just taking advantage of the growing interest of business here [06:55] with linux [06:55] yes [06:55] well I am off to hack some docs before the day begins [06:55] nice meeting you [06:56] later [06:56] Burgundavia: later dude [06:56] cya [07:04] http://www.tectonic.co.za/view.php?id=424 [07:04] seems somebody took our release notes and made a transcript from them [07:08] hmm [07:08] its exactly the same [07:10] jsgotangco: yes [07:11] I just realized that we have not mentioned kubuntu in the release notes [07:11] hmm that too [07:37] Burgundavia: come to kde dude:-) [07:38] Burgundavia: please no top posting. If you gonna top post delete the stuff from the original message ;-) [07:40] sorry [07:40] I just happen to like Gnome a lot more than KDE [07:41] it is also default, and all studies show that most users never change the default of any program [07:41] each to his own in that respect [07:41] I like the fact that there are 2 [07:41] and I like freedesktop.org [07:41] not me I run them both and some other desktops ;-) [07:41] which wouldn't exist if their weren't 2 [07:44] froud: I am currently working on the bittorrent para [07:44] But I am not liking my writing right now [07:44] Should I have 2 paras? [07:44] 1. expliant bt [07:44] 2. how to do it [07:44] so mark it as review and we will pick it up [07:44] ok [07:47] is this a known issue? xsl:import : unable to load /usr/share/xml/docbook/stylesheet/nwalsh/xhtml/chunk.xsl [07:47] from the check-before commit program [07:48] yes [07:48] which os you on [07:49] ubuntu hoary [07:49] gnome [07:49] pretty much a default install [07:49] can I commit though, is the question [07:49] update /libs/html-cust.xsl [07:49] use /usr/share/xml/docbook/stylesheet/nwalsh/current/html/profile-chunk.xsl [07:50] oops [07:50] use /usr/share/xml/docbook/stylesheet/nwalsh/current/html/chunk.xsl [07:50] You will find that it is already there just commented [07:50] ah [07:50] why is that by default? [07:50] please commit back the change [07:50] may bad [07:50] ok, will do [07:51] thanks [07:51] I am hacking on SuSE [07:51] and the xsls are installe din the correct place [07:51] on SuSE [07:51] but not on ubuntu? [07:51] Debian still uses the old location [07:51] ah [07:52] I will move over once I am happy with kubuntu;-) [07:52] so switch the comments? [07:52] Yes [07:52] doing now [07:52] thanks [07:53] we should use a catalog resolver, but catalogs on hoary are broken [07:53] are there bugs filed for this? [07:53] don'task why [07:53] yes [07:53] ok [07:53] faqguide is borked, but your email explains that [07:53] yes, I will fix things today sometime [07:54] comitted [07:54] s/committed/comitted [07:54] damn that word screws me up every time [07:56] he he, no worries, it's irc we understand ;-) === cc [~cc@byte.fedora] has joined #ubuntu-doc === froud ponders cc byte.fedora [08:32] byte.fedore? [08:32] hi. i'm Colin Charles. [08:33] a general fedora person, possibly doing some Ubuntu documentation [08:33] welcome [08:33] mainly in the form of a livecd sorta thing [08:33] what sort of livecd? [08:35] Burgundavia: Ubuntu ships a liveCD [08:35] cc: welcome [08:35] I realize that [08:35] i know; i might want to update something in regards to it [08:36] cool [08:36] not sure.... you produce a live CD of your own or you want to do someting in regard to UbuntuLive CD [08:45] the livecd is ok [08:48] jsgotangco: ok so what do you have in mind? [08:52] well the livecd is a great way to introduce to potential users but what the ubuntu livecd lacks is some sort of documentation or howto at startup like what knoppix has sort of [08:52] at least a welocome page or something [08:53] i dunno knoppix just nails it down when it comes to livecds [08:55] jsgotangco: our live cd just loads the desktop [08:56] then you can use System > About Ubuntu to open the intro doc in Firefox [08:56] well whatever you want send a proposal to the list === froud must get working now [08:56] b c'ing ya [08:56] ;-) [09:07] Morning all [09:07] morn === froud-work [~froud@ndn-165-131-237.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-doc === drasko [~drasko@ic-07.etf.bg.ac.yu] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mdke [~Matt_@mdke.user] has joined #ubuntu-doc [01:41] hey [01:42] hi === Kinnison glares at Burgundavia [01:43] Burgundavia: I have new toys! [01:43] Burgundavia: two external and one internal battery for my laptop [01:43] Burgundavia: so I have a plausible 15-16 hours battery life [01:45] Kinnison: hey [01:45] Kinnison: cool [01:46] Burgundavia: this is also known as "how to try and make the trip to .au not stink [01:48] Kinnison: ah right [01:49] Kinnison: what a mess this Eugenia stuff has been eh? [01:49] Eugenia? [01:49] Osnew flap over gnome not listening to users [01:50] s/Osnew/Osnews [01:50] not seen it [01:51] yes you have [01:51] read planet.gnome recently? [01:51] no [01:52] ah [01:52] little tempest in a tea pot over eugenia trying to start up a users pay for features they want thing [01:52] and then users telling her, quite rightly, that it is a stupid idea [01:53] heh [01:53] oh yeah i saw that in slashdot [01:53] really really stupid, but it gots lot of people worked up over it [01:53] 600 posts or something [01:53] it was misreprensented in Slash [01:54] as was the debian dropping archs thing [01:54] isn't everything [01:54] as usual for slash [01:54] :) [01:55] how are things going? === mercurus [~mercurus@pipp-p-144-138-229-132.prem.tmns.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-doc [02:24] ok i've started a wiki page for discussion about a new structure [02:24] damn can't remember the title [02:25] its under MatthewEast [02:25] gtg now [02:25] later all === froud-work [~froud@ndn-165-131-237.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-doc [03:22] what would be the quickest and easiest way to specify either gdm or kdm on ubuntu === mako_ [mako@micha.hampshire.edu] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mf- [mf-@ppp243-173.lns2.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [03:49] is anyone awake? [03:53] yes [03:54] anywhere around here i can get help on installing xpde on ubuntu? === mdke [~Matt_@mdke.user] has joined #ubuntu-doc [03:55] mf-: I have not seen any docs on how to do that [03:55] you like xpde? [03:56] hi boys and girls [03:56] dunno, can't get it working [03:56] first time i've ever used ubuntu tonight [03:56] so i'm just checking things out [03:56] why not try kde [03:56] froud-work, btw do you work on kubuntu, other than docs? [03:56] because i've used kde before [03:57] sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop [03:57] mf-: ok [03:57] mdke: yes [03:57] ;) [03:57] i haven't used nix in a long time, i don't really remember much [03:57] If you get it working let me know I will document it for you [03:57] k [03:58] Windows user? [03:58] froud-work, came across a user in ubuntu-it that had an enormous bug, opening a root terminal from the menu crashes on him [03:58] who, me? [03:58] mf-: yes you [03:58] lets not get abusive ;p [03:58] used to use nix on every machine i owned [03:58] but i slowly drifted away [03:58] now realising the error of my ways, :) === Kinnison uses Ubuntu on all his systems :-) [03:59] i only just got hold of ubuntu [03:59] "i haven't used nix in a long time" [03:59] been wanting to check it out for a while [03:59] correct [03:59] hi Kinnison [03:59] mf-: You got the hoary preview? [03:59] well welcome back [03:59] mdke: Hi [03:59] huh? [03:59] mf-: What release of Ubuntu have you got? [03:59] mf-: 4.10 or 5.04(preview) ? [03:59] no idea [03:59] mf-: which version of ubuntu do you have? [04:00] got it on a cd with a magazine [04:00] 4.10 [04:00] 4.10 then === Kinnison nods === Kinnison glances over at the pile of 4.10 CDs he has left [04:00] apparently so [04:00] lol [04:00] install and then update to hoary [04:00] what ver is that [04:00] 5.04 [04:00] ahh [04:01] 5.04 will be released in about three and a half weeks [04:01] i'm only running it in vmware at the moment [04:01] so i'll probably install it properly in a few days :) i'll do it then [04:01] mf-: cummon trach that ntfs partition [04:01] i plan on it [04:01] :-) [04:01] cool [04:01] welcome back [04:02] hehe [04:02] thanks :) [04:02] and remember when you figure out how to install xpde, let me know [04:02] will do [04:03] perhaps music will help [04:14] i tell you what i recommend [04:15] wiki editing in IE [04:15] its a dream come true [04:15] /sarcasm off === froud-work is now known as froud-away [04:29] lol [04:31] hrmm === asw [~asw@node-423a728a.bos.onnet.us.uu.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === sm [~simon@lsanca1-ar5-4-60-052-182.lsanca1.dsl-verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === froud-away [~froud@165.165.131.237] has joined #ubuntu-doc === froud_ [~froud@ndn-165-131-237.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-doc === cmoreno8 [~cmoreno8@dyn-144-227.public.tut.fi] has joined #ubuntu-doc === cmoreno8 [~cmoreno8@dyn-144-227.public.tut.fi] has left #ubuntu-doc ["Abandonando"] === c_moreno8 [~cmoreno8@dyn-144-227.public.tut.fi] has joined #ubuntu-doc === c_moreno8 [~cmoreno8@dyn-144-227.public.tut.fi] has left #ubuntu-doc ["Abandonando"] === ubuntulog [~warthylog@port49.ds1-van.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Topic for #ubuntu-doc: Ubuntu Doc Team - general discussion - backlog at http://irclog.workaround.org | This channel tries to follow the tradition of the #gnome-love channel on irc.gimp.net, all new comers and questions are welcomed, as long as you follow the Ubuntu community code of conduct @ http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct first. === Topic (#ubuntu-doc): set by sivang at Sat Jan 1 20:48:30 2005 === enrico [~enrico@enrico.developer.debian] has joined #ubuntu-doc [09:43] ciao enrico [09:43] ciao! [09:52] enrico, sai come funziona zopeedit? [09:52] mdke: mai usato :( [09:52] np [09:52] stresso simon [09:52] non c'e' [09:52] >_< === drasko [~drasko@kds8-053.ptt.yu] has joined #ubuntu-doc