[12:04] <mdke> yay
[12:05] <mdke> sm, hi :)
[12:05] <sm> hello :)
[12:05] <mdke> i can't get zopeedit working
[12:06] <mdke> it locks the page
[12:06] <sm> ok.. please explain to me how far you get in words of one syllable :)
[12:06] <mdke> ok
[12:06] <mdke> i copied the config from zwiki
[12:06] <mdke> changed emacs to gedit
[12:07] <mdke> open my wiki
[12:07] <mdke> click crayon
[12:07] <mdke> gedit opens
[12:07] <mdke> i edit the file
[12:07] <mdke> save
[12:07] <mdke> quit
[12:07] <mdke> error: page is locked
[12:07] <sm> perfect
[12:07] <sm> hmm
[12:07] <mdke> but once or twice it worked
[12:07] <mdke> maybe when i took not much time over it?
[12:08] <sm> which page are you testing on ?
[12:08] <mdke> erm
[12:08] <mdke> none in particular
[12:08] <mdke> i was editing last night
[12:08] <sm> ok.. try TestPage
[12:08] <mdke> ok
[12:08] <sm> I'll check permissions etc
[12:09] <mdke> hmm
[12:09] <mdke> i have some cache issues too
[12:09] <sm> just shift-reload
[12:10] <mdke> still no
[12:10] <mdke> might be my browser i spose
[12:10] <mdke> whoa
[12:12] <mdke> yeah its working with a fresh home director
[12:12] <mdke> y
[12:13] <mdke> testing now
[12:14] <mdke> right
[12:14] <mdke> here is the error
[12:14] <mdke> Could not save to Zope. Error occured during HTTP put: 423 Locked
[12:16] <sm> where does that show up ?
[12:16] <sm> a dialog pops up after your first save ?
[12:16] <mdke> no after I quit
[12:17] <mdke> after about 5 seconds
[12:17] <sm> zopeedit does it's thing each time you save.. it doesn't know about quitting
[12:17] <sm> but it takes a few seconds to upload etc.
[12:18] <mdke> erm
[12:18] <mdke> i think i have it configured differently
[12:18] <sm> oh
[12:18] <mdke> # Automatic save interval, in seconds. Set to zero for
[12:18] <mdke> # no auto save (save to Zope only on exit).
[12:18] <mdke> save_interval = 0
[12:18] <mdke> i changed it to that to see if it would get rid of the error
[12:18] <mdke> maybe is my bad
[12:19] <sm> mine is 1
[12:19] <mdke> k retesting
[12:20] <sm> ok I see the lock
[12:20] <mdke> ok now i get the error when saving
[12:20] <mdke> same one
[12:21] <sm> ok.. now quit it ?
[12:21] <mdke> what do i do with the error dialogue? retry/cancel
[12:21] <sm> just cancel
[12:22] <mdke> ok done
[12:22] <sm> and now the lock is gone
[12:22] <mdke> got the dialogue "File not saved to zope, reopen local copy"
[12:22] <mdke> page not saved
[12:23] <mdke> how about this in config
[12:23] <mdke> # Use WebDAV locking to prevent concurrent editing by
[12:23] <mdke> # different users. Disable for single user use or for
[12:23] <mdke> # better performance
[12:23] <mdke> use_locks = 1
[12:23] <mdke> # To suppress warnings about borrowing locks on objects
[12:23] <mdke> # locked by you before you began editing you can
[12:23] <mdke> # set this flag. This is useful for applications that
[12:23] <mdke> # use server-side locking, like CMFStaging
[12:23] <mdke> always_borrow_locks = 0
[12:23] <sm> yeah, try borrow_locks =1
[12:24] <sm> better ?
[12:24] <mdke> same :(
[12:24] <sm> huh
[12:24] <mdke> don't worry about it
[12:24] <sm> can anyone else try this ?
[12:25] <sm> mdke, just try at http://zwiki.org/TestPage
[12:26] <sm> I have to go.. I'll shout if I think of something
[12:26] <mdke> no errors
[12:26] <mdke> yeah it works
[12:27] <mdke> sm, cool will hang around
[12:27] <mdke> don't worry tho
[12:28] <sm> also try it once more on ubuntu testpage
[12:29] <mdke> k
[12:31] <mdke> sm, now it works
[12:31] <sm> interesting
[12:31] <mdke> yay
[12:31] <sm> ok all pages should work now
[12:31] <mdke> ty
[12:31] <mdke> :)
[12:31] <sm> though I don't know why anonymous needs webdav unlock permission
[12:32] <sm> thanks
[12:32] <mdke> at a later date, we should give some thought to adding a login link to the zwiki skin if it doesn't have it
[12:32] <sm> you can bring it up by doing alt e
[12:32] <sm> for now
[12:32] <mdke> brilliant
[12:32] <mdke> thanks
[01:05] <mdke> brb
[02:05] <mdke> nite
[03:13] <jsgotangco> good day
[03:16] <mdke> sm, ping
[03:16] <sm> .
[03:16] <mdke> sm, i'm looking for your bug on the ubuntu.com ubuntulinux.org thing
[03:16] <mdke> you know where it is?
[03:17] <mdke> that is what is causing my login problems i think
[03:17] <sm> https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5725
[03:17] <mdke> you're a star
[03:17] <mdke> thanks
[03:17] <mdke> hmm
[03:17] <sm> np
[03:18] <mdke> you've noted the cache thing already
[03:19] <sm> gotta run.. back tomorrow
[03:19] <mdke> bye
[03:19] <mdke> nite
[03:26] <jsgotangco> ahh
[03:26] <jsgotangco> i missed that
[03:31] <jsgotangco> hello
[04:06] <Burgundavia> salut
[06:52] <froud> African Greetings
[09:20] <Burgundavia> salut
[09:27] <Kinnison> Salut Burgundavia 
[09:32] <froud> Just got my copy of Linux Magazine and guess what's on the CD?
[09:32] <froud> Ubuntu 5.04
[09:33] <Kinnison> Yeah; it's an old snapshot
[09:34] <Kinnison> unless that magazine has gone to press since preview
[09:34] <froud> Kinnison: It is a snapshot of the development edition
[09:34] <froud> but hey the DVD looks cool
[09:34] <froud> sstaes 2.800 packages
[09:35] <froud> easy installation
[09:35] <froud> reliable system update
[09:36] <froud> but they dont mention Kubuntu :-(
[09:40] <Burgundavia> there are some poepl who are installing it off there and reporting issues
[09:41] <Burgundavia> does it say Preview or Development version or something on it?
[09:42] <froud> Burgundavia: it says "full distribution"
[09:42] <Burgundavia> hmm
[09:42] <Burgundavia> that is not so good
[09:42] <froud> Burgundavia: It also says Hoary Hedgehog development edition
[09:42] <Burgundavia> ah
[09:42] <Burgundavia> ok
[09:43] <Burgundavia> how prominent?
[09:44] <froud> Small in compared to FULL DISTRIBUTION
[09:44] <Burgundavia> right
[09:45] <Burgundavia> it might be good to thank them profusely for including us, but ask us next time please?
[09:46] <froud> mako: ping
[09:46] <froud> Burgundavia: nice article though
[09:46] <Burgundavia> it is way cool that they included it
[09:48] <Burgundavia> good to counteract the balance of the ubuntu is gnome only
[09:50] <froud> Huh?
[09:51] <Burgundavia> sorry
[09:51] <Burgundavia> good to counteract the press that ubuntu is gnome only
[09:52] <froud> yes
[09:55] <_froud_> like dude, my ups did not work
[09:55] <Burgundavia> hmm
[02:07] <Burgundavia> saw it
[02:08] <Burgundavia> am looking
[02:13] <froud> Burgundavia: thanks dude. All manner of edits welcome.
[02:23] <mf-> hey froud
[02:23] <mf-> i think i may know a reason xpde may not work
[02:23] <froud> mf-: you still tring to install it :-)
[02:23] <mf-> i did that last night
[02:23] <froud> ouch
[02:23] <froud> did you suceed?
[02:23] <mf-> was thinking, because it gnome doesn't have a popup taskbar
[02:23] <mf-> then the "start menu" doesn't work
[02:23] <mf-> so apart from that, i got the taskbar to show up
[02:23] <mf-> and the desktop b/g
[02:23] <mf-> i'm not sure what else is meant to be on there
[02:23] <froud> surely the desktop should just install
[02:23] <froud> perhaps it need KDM?
[02:23] <froud> mf-: is xpde GNOME? I thought it was KDE
[02:26] <froud> mf-: hmm niether
[02:26] <mf-> it's gnome
[02:26] <mf-> i reckon it does need kdm
[02:27] <froud> what display manager does it use?
[02:27] <mf-> no idea
[02:27] <mf-> which?
[02:27] <froud> if it's gnome then it surely it may require gdm
[02:27] <froud> but I am not sure it is gnome
[02:27] <froud> what window manager does it install
[02:29] <mf-> none
[02:29] <mf-> you never tried to install it?
[02:29] <froud> no, nnnver
[02:29] <mf-> oh
[02:29] <mf-> i'm not even sure if i installed it right, it's just a conclusion
[02:29] <froud> it must have somedisplay manager
[02:29] <froud> you sure it does not have xdm
[02:30] <froud> try sudo which gdm
[02:31] <froud> sorry try sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[02:31] <froud> that should give you a view on what it did
[02:31] <mf-> hehe
[02:31] <mf-> ok
[02:31] <mf-> hangon
[02:31] <mf-> lemme boot it up
[02:32] <froud> it looks like kde/kdm
[02:35] <mf-> what's that meant to do?
[02:35] <froud> what dpkg-reconfigure
[02:36] <mf-> yea
[02:36] <froud> you should get a menu showing which display managers are installed and you can select which will be your default
[02:36] <froud> which display managers are installed
[02:36] <mf-> it didn't
[02:36] <froud> it didn't what
[02:37] <mf-> it just said
[02:37] <froud> did not install a display manager
[02:37] <mf-> "reloading gnome display manager configuration"
[02:37] <mf-> changes will take effect when all x sessions have ended
[02:37] <froud> ok cause you only have gdm installed
[02:37] <froud> when you have mutiple Display Managers it list them for you and enables you to change between them
[02:38] <mf-> what's the normal way to install a display manager
[02:38] <mf-> and i'll work from there :)
[02:38] <froud> you could try installing the kde core
[02:39] <froud> kde-core can be installed from universe
[02:39] <froud> that will add KDM to your system and then you can try it with xpde
[02:39] <mf-> i see
[02:39] <froud> hav eno idea if it will help
[02:40] <froud> mf-: I must go for awhile, c u later
[02:40] <mf-> ok
[04:25] <jjesse> question to anyone paying attention, where would be the best location to learn docbook?
[04:42] <froud> jjesse: you still tuned
[04:42] <froud> best place to start learning docbook is http://www.docbook.org
[05:27] <jjesse> was in a meeting but thanks looking there right now
[05:48] <mako> froud: hey there
[05:49] <froud> mako: wher you been dude
[05:49] <mako> colombia
[05:49] <mako> still there in fact
[05:49] <froud> Hmmm, jet setting hey
[05:49] <mako> :)
[05:50] <froud> what's the policy on press releases
[05:50] <froud> All the marketing stuff is ignoring kubuntu
[05:50] <froud> not fair :-(
[05:51] <mako> oh.. the kubuntu folks told us to wait last time
[05:51] <mako> they weren't ready with some things
[05:51] <froud> Why?
[05:51] <froud> Well Kubuntu looks cool from where I am sitting
[05:51] <mako> something wasn't very usuable i can't recall waht
[05:52] <mako> yeah, they're going to do their own release
[05:52] <mako> and sorry.. announcments
[05:52] <froud> OK
[05:52] <mako> and then the main announcement of the release will include info on both
[05:52] <mako> that's the plan at least
[05:52] <froud> Now if I write a news item for a web site, you have any policy with that
[05:52] <froud> kubuntu related
[05:53] <mako> no problem
[05:53] <mako> check with the kubuntu guys
[05:53] <froud> http://www.tectonic.co.za/
[05:53] <mako> and in the future, it's a good idea to check with maybe me/jane/mark/jeff 
[05:53] <mako> but yeah, go ahead
[05:53] <froud> ok so I will filter it to you guys
[05:53] <froud> what is marks nick
[05:53] <mako> sabdfl
[05:54] <froud> ah yes always get him and seb128 confused
[05:54] <mako> it stands for either: self appointeed benevolant dictator for life
[05:54] <mako> or: south african bdfl
[05:54] <froud> Seems somebody took our release notes and posted an article on the above site
[05:54] <froud> :-)
[05:54] <mako> which i like bretter :)
[05:54] <froud> :-)
[05:54] <mako> sorry.. i'm quite lagged here :)
[05:54] <froud> yeah
[05:54] <Kinnison> mako: How much do those powerpads cost?
[05:55] <mako> i got mine for 240 USD for the 10watthour one
[05:55] <mako> sorry.. the 120watthour
[05:56] <Kinnison> what voltage/current?
[05:56] <mako> which on my laptop is about 12 hours w/o cd
[05:56] <mako> i think they work with just about everything
[05:56] <mako> there ar elists of supported models though
[05:56] <mako> mostly its so you know which cord to use
[05:56] <mako> it comes with like a dozen different plugs
[05:57] <mako> for all sorts of laptops
[05:57] <Kinnison> same type as the 4000/7140/A100/R100 etc
[05:57] <Kinnison> tosh fortunately standardised on psus
[05:58] <mako> ok.. that's teh same as mine
[05:58] <mako> i got the 120B
[05:58] <mako> i have a 4000
[05:58] <Kinnison> I have about 12h of batteries anyway; but another 12 might be nice
[05:59] <mako> wow.. 1h already :)
[05:59] <mako> yeah.. i get about 12h on mine
[05:59] <mako> maybe a bit more with the way i normally use it
[06:00] <Kinnison> Right
[06:01] <Kinnison> I just bought two externals and another internal for 90 UKP
[06:01] <Kinnison> that powerpad would be 130UKP
[06:01] <froud> which version of debs is ubuntu based on?
[06:02] <Kinnison> froud: Erm, it's a rolling 'unstable' snapshot until freeze when we stop taking updates automatically
[06:02] <Kinnison> approx.
[06:02] <froud> so I apt-get install knetworkconf
[06:02] <froud> when I start it I get to select from all known supported distros
[06:03] <froud> in debs there are three option
[06:03] <froud> I am updating to hoary development branch
[06:04] <froud> so do I select Sarge, Woody or Patato
[06:05] <Kinnison> Sarge if you want recent
[06:06] <froud> ok thanks
[06:14] <froud> maskie: it's not call more time yet ;-)
[07:05] <mdke> evening everybody
[07:12] <mdke> jjesse, ping
[07:12] <froud> mdke: evening
[07:13] <mdke> hi froud
[07:13] <mdke> how are you doing?
[07:13] <froud> cooking with gas
[07:14] <mdke> the best way
[07:14] <froud> kubuntu is rocking
[07:14] <mdke> yeah?
[07:14] <mdke> i will try it soon
[07:14] <froud> now all I need is a way to hide gnome apps while in kde and hide kde apps while in gnome
[07:15] <froud> Ok good then you can test this for me http://www.inwords.co.za/kubuntu/inst/desktop-install.html
[07:15] <mdke> on the weekend
[07:15] <mdke> will do
[07:16] <mdke> jjesse, ping again
[07:16] <froud> jjesse: ping 
[07:16] <froud> mdke: sure
[07:16] <jjesse> here
[07:16] <jjesse> sorry
[07:16] <froud> you need instructions
[07:16] <froud> patching
[07:16] <jjesse> yes please
[07:16] <mdke> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DocteamStepByStepRepository
[07:16] <froud> did you do checkout from svn right
[07:17] <mdke> ^^ instructions :)
[07:17] <jjesse> just got the instructions
[07:17] <froud> if you did checkout then ^^ will help
[07:17] <froud> di dyou read this doc
[07:17] <jjesse> the one mdki sent me?
[07:18] <jjesse> just reading this one
[07:18] <froud> sure
[07:19] <froud> c point 6
[07:20] <froud> does this help or you still need assistance
[07:20] <mdke> thats a wicked doc
[07:20] <jjesse> it helps is the kubuntu doc in this repository or is there a different one?
[07:22] <froud> its in svn in branches
[07:23] <froud> kubuntu doc is in https://docteam.ubuntu.com/repos/branches/froud/kubuntu
[07:24] <jjesse> found it 
[07:24] <froud> do you have the branch in your repos
[07:24] <froud> wc (working copy)
[07:25] <jjesse> i just did a svn checkout of branches
[07:25] <froud> cool
[07:25] <jjesse> i use cvs a lot so its similar correct?
[07:25] <froud> cool you can also use svn switch
[07:26] <froud> but I just do svn co on the repos/ that way I get trunk, branches and tags
[07:29] <jjesse> cool, question when i make the changes and open it through web browser i get an error
[07:30] <jjesse> XML Parsing Error: undefined entity
[07:30] <jjesse> Location: file:///home/jjesse/ubuntu-docs/ubuntu-docs/froud/kubuntu/inst/desktop-install.xml
[07:30] <jjesse> Line Number 30, Column 22:
[07:30] <froud> dont use a web browser
[07:30] <froud> especially not firefox
[07:30] <jjesse> ok
[07:30] <froud> what editor do you have
[07:31] <jjesse> i just used emacs cause that what i'm used to using
[07:31] <froud> cool with psgmls
[07:32] <jjesse> i would guess so, just installed emacs21
[07:32] <froud> you should be able to yelp desktop-install.xml
[07:33] <jjesse> parser error : Entity 'legalnotice' not defined
[07:33] <jjesse>         </publisher> &legalnotice; <authorgroup> &author-sean-wheller; </authorg
[07:33] <froud> Hmm hold
[07:34] <froud> is your branches in  the same folder (relative to your trunk/
[07:35] <froud> if so it will work otherwise it wont work
[07:35] <froud> just copy the folder and contents to the same folder that has your trunk
[07:35] <froud> then it will work
[07:35] <froud> or mv it
[07:36] <jjesse> so froud should be in the same dir as the rest of the docs?
[07:36] <froud> so you should have branches/froud/kubuntu/inst/desktop-install.xml
[07:37] <froud> in the same folder as somefolder/branshes
[07:37] <froud> somefolder/trunk/
[07:37] <froud> branches 
[07:37] <froud> did you understand what I mean
[07:38] <jjesse> yeah i do
[07:38] <froud> ls
[07:38] <froud> branches  tags  trunk  ubuntu.xpr  vendor
[07:38] <froud> ok
[07:38] <jjesse> working on getting it setup, thanks for the  help :0
[07:38] <froud> no worries, thank you for your help
[07:39] <froud> in svn the repos normally has branches tags trunk
[07:39] <froud> but people usualy only checkout the trunk
[07:42] <jjesse> ok i got it figured out now
[07:42] <jjesse> in ~/ubuntu-docs/repos
[07:43] <jjesse> i have branches tags trunk vendor
[07:43] <froud> well if you did the checkout from repos/ you would have that
[07:43] <jjesse> nod that was i did
[07:44] <froud> so you have everything in my branch now inlcuding the learnlinux which is many many many files
[07:47] <froud> does yelping it now work
[07:47] <mdke> btw, would really appreciate people's input on the question of wiki structure. http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/IdeasForNewFrontPageStructure
[07:48] <jjesse> nope getting THe section '(null)' does not exist in this document if you were direted to this section from a help button in an application, please report this to the maintainers of that application
[07:48] <mdke> lol
[07:48] <froud> mdke: I am no good at that kinda stuff
[07:48] <jjesse> Yelp-CRITICAL **: history_pop_back: assertion `window->priv->history_back != NULL' failed
[07:48] <mdke> froud, np just a shout out :)
[07:48] <froud> ok
[07:48] <jjesse> i did a yelp desktop-install.xml
[07:49] <froud> from where in the inst/ directory
[07:49] <froud> what is your pwd
[07:49] <froud> do pwd
[07:49] <jjesse> /home/jjesse/ubuntu-docs/repos/branches/froud/kubuntu/inst
[07:50] <froud> an dyou have /home/jjesse/ubuntu-docs/repos/trunk
[07:50] <jjesse> yup
[07:51] <jjesse> i have ~/ubuntu-docs/repos and in that dir i have branches tags trunk vendor
[07:51] <froud> do head desktop-inst.xml and paste it here
[07:51] <jjesse> jjesse@casops99:~/ubuntu-docs/repos/branches/froud/kubuntu/inst $ head desktop-install.xml
[07:51] <jjesse> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
[07:51] <jjesse> <!DOCTYPE article PUBLIC "-//OASIS//DTD DocBook XML V4.1.2//EN"
[07:51] <jjesse>         "http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/4.1.2/docbookx.dtd" [
[07:51] <jjesse> <!ENTITY % xinclude SYSTEM "../../../../trunk/libs/xinclude.mod">
[07:52] <jjesse> %xinclude;
[07:52] <jjesse> <!ENTITY % globalent SYSTEM "../../../../trunk/libs/global.ent">
[07:52] <jjesse> %globalent;
[07:52] <jjesse> ] >
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[07:52] <jjesse>     <title>Installing KDE for Ubuntu</title>
[07:52] <froud> thanks right
[07:53] <froud> do xmllint --noout --xinclude --noent --postvalid desktop-inst.xml
[07:53] <froud> it should exit without errors
[07:54] <jjesse> nothing returned
[07:54] <froud> then the document is still valid
[07:55] <froud> so it must be something else
[07:55] <jjesse> ok so should i then do the step of creating the .dff file?
[07:55] <froud> are you abl eto yelp the quickguide
[07:55] <froud> yes
[07:56] <jjesse> yeah i yelp the quickguide
[07:57] <froud> and when you did checkout it was svn co https://docteam.ubuntu.com/repos
[07:57] <jjesse> yeah it was, which gave me all the dirs
[07:57] <froud> Hmm strange it works here
[07:57] <froud> svn up in repos/
[07:57] <jjesse> at revision 731
[07:58] <froud> yep, why can I do an dyou cant
[07:58] <jjesse> shrug don't know
[07:58] <froud> do the patch
[07:58] <jjesse> ok should i just mail you the .diff
[07:59] <froud> yes sean@inwords.co.za
[07:59] <jjesse> ok sending it and off to a mtg
[07:59] <froud> cool thanks
[08:09] <froud> jjesse: thanks that worked
[08:10] <froud> jjesse: you will see it come through on the commit-user list
[08:10] <froud> you are subscribed to it right
[08:11] <froud> just in case see here http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/ForTheHasty
[08:11] <mdke> have fun
[09:06] <mdke> hi drasko 
[09:06] <drasko> hi
[09:06] <mdke> how are you doin?
[09:06] <drasko> ok... you?
[09:06] <mdke> fine thanks :)
[09:08] <drasko> I am still gathering the informations about what you people do... Lookin' for a way to start helping you out with this :)
[09:09] <mdke> heh
[09:09] <mdke> are you interested in helping out with the wiki?
[09:09] <drasko> Shure. Something specific?
[09:10] <mdke> well not really
[09:10] <mdke> hang on
[09:10] <mdke> if you wanna comment on https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/IdeasForNewFrontPageStructure?
[09:11] <mdke> and the other things that _always_ needs doing is converting wiki pages to moinmoin format
[09:12] <drasko> I will look this url...
[09:17] <drasko> SimpleFrontPage looks nice
[09:18] <mdke> heh
[09:18] <mdke> but it is in html
[09:18] <mdke> drasko, its not so much the looks, but the structure that we need to think about, the looks can be done later
[09:32] <drasko> soorry, hat to go a way from the comp for a moment...well, I like idea of those links condensated on one frontpage rather than scrolling the wheell, so I think it is a plus. On the other hand I think that Generel topics should provide a little more information on suptopics right away, haveing in sight people who came here not knowing exactly what they are looking for but just gathering some overview info about what exists...
[09:33] <drasko> *general
[09:33] <drasko> *subtopics :)
[09:33] <drasko> wow, having
[09:35] <mdke> yeah
[09:35] <mdke> in terms of the html, its harder to edit than moinmoin so I hope we will be using moin for the frontpage
[09:39] <drasko> I guess, so everything to be consistant with the moinmoin politics...
[09:39] <mdke> no not everything
[09:39] <mdke> if there is a good reason then it can be different IMO
[09:39] <mdke> but when you try and edit HTML, it is a bit tricky
[09:43] <drasko> yes... But there is not need for all the pages to be editable by all, the esy way. I mean - some pages are less in need of editing frequenly and by a lot of users. Those pages maybe should be left in html, if it will be more adequate. But I am not yet in all this, just thain to get some threads for now... Besides my all-day work :)
[09:43] <mdke> drasko, yes you are right
[09:45] <drasko> mdke, gtg now, so see you soon on the channel. Have a nice evening :)
[09:45] <mdke> drasko, gnite
[10:00] <mdke> hi maskie, abelli 
[10:00] <abelli> ciao everybody
[10:00] <abelli> mdke: ohh.. how long..
[10:00] <mdke> lol
[10:02] <abelli> smurfix: ciao