| zul | lamont: stop bombing my email!! :) | 12:23 |
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| lamont | zul: heh | 12:27 |
| lamont | was last time, honest | 12:27 |
| lamont | well, for this change, anyway | 12:27 |
| lamont | there's only one bug left in bz that has kernel-team on it, and I'm not reopening taht bug just to change it | 12:28 |
| zul | heh | 12:55 |
| zul | lamont: back yet | 02:42 |
| lamont | yeah | 02:44 |
| zul | later | 04:43 |
| fabbione | morning | 06:19 |
| crimsun | morning, fabbione :-) | 06:31 |
| lamont | fabbion3: when did you go all 3l1t3 on us? | 06:47 |
| fabbion3 | i need fabbione for the dpl debate | 06:48 |
| fabbion3 | going to switch back later :-) | 06:48 |
| fabbion3 | otherwise it's just ETOOMANYCHAN for one client | 06:49 |
| lamont | ah, ok. | 06:50 |
| lamont | you running? or just want to be there? | 06:50 |
| lamont | how many channels am I allowed? | 06:50 |
| === lamont is in 12 channels this server right now... | ||
| fabbion3 | no the problem is not the amount of allowed chans | 06:51 |
| fabbion3 | it's the way i like to use my client | 06:51 |
| fabbion3 | i don't like to hide windows | 06:51 |
| fabbion3 | so i keep all of them open at the same time | 06:51 |
| lamont | fabbion3: may have some hppa changes for a near-future kernel... | 07:27 |
| fabbion3 | lamont: that's ok with me | 07:33 |
| fabbion3 | i don't have any issue with portability on hppa | 07:33 |
| fabbion3 | specially because the patches are isolated | 07:33 |
| lamont | heh | 07:34 |
| fabbion3 | btw.. i just added the 00-list files for 29 | 07:34 |
| fabbion3 | i must do the create_new_release: target in the make file | 07:34 |
| fabbion3 | it's just too many thing to do atm | 07:34 |
| fabbion3 | it's easy to forget them. | 07:34 |
| lamont | yes, please | 07:39 |
| lamont | so this abichecker... where does it live? | 07:39 |
| fabbion3 | lamont: in debian/rules inside the clean and build target | 07:41 |
| fabbion3 | + 2/3 things outside to export VARS like abinum | 07:41 |
| fabbion3 | debian/abi is the dir that does the trick | 07:42 |
| lamont | ok... there's a target in debian/rules then that verifies things? | 07:42 |
| lamont | and I'll need to generate hppa files for -28 or something? | 07:42 |
| fabbion3 | lamont: no target. it's just a direct thing in build target | 07:43 |
| lamont | ok | 07:43 |
| fabbion3 | if you build for hppa, just add the ABI files to debian/abi/2.6.10-28/hppa/ | 07:43 |
| fabbion3 | they are called with the same name as the config files | 07:43 |
| fabbion3 | otherwise | 07:43 |
| fabbion3 | since hppa is not official yet | 07:43 |
| fabbion3 | you can just echo 1 > debian/abi/2.6.10-28/hppa.ignore | 07:44 |
| fabbion3 | and the ABI check will be overridden | 07:44 |
| fabbion3 | don't make an empty file | 07:44 |
| fabbion3 | it won't survive to make clean | 07:44 |
| fabbion3 | svenl: i am building the ppc kernel with the eth changes right now | 07:58 |
| svenl | it builds fine ? | 08:00 |
| svenl | fabbion3: did you add the mkvmlinuz support stuff too ? | 08:00 |
| fabbion3 | it's build.. | 08:00 |
| fabbion3 | it still needs to finish the first flavour | 08:00 |
| svenl | it compiles the arch/ppc part early on. | 08:01 |
| fabbion3 | svenl: i am compiling with -j15 | 08:01 |
| fabbion3 | it won't take long | 08:01 |
| fabbion3 | too much scrolling on the screen to see it | 08:01 |
| svenl | :) | 08:02 |
| fabbion3 | In file included from arch/ppc/platforms/mv643xx_eth_pegasos.c:18: | 08:06 |
| fabbion3 | include/linux/mv643xx.h:16:27: asm/addrspace.h: No such file or directory | 08:06 |
| fabbion3 | include/linux/mv643xx.h:17:25: asm/marvell.h: No such file or directory | 08:06 |
| fabbion3 | it fails | 08:06 |
| fabbion3 | this is 2.6.10 | 08:06 |
| fabbion3 | are you sure you did add all the files? | 08:06 |
| svenl | well, they where for 2.6.11, maybe the files in question got added to 2.6.11 after 2.6.10. Will check. | 08:11 |
| svenl | or you can just grab them. | 08:12 |
| svenl | The problem is that my frech ubuntu install refused to boot, so i couldn't try the patches myself, but will backport them to the debian 2.6.10 kernel. | 08:12 |
| svenl | fabbion3: mmm, something is wrong here. | 08:14 |
| fabbion3 | svenl: please just give me the complete patches | 08:14 |
| fabbion3 | you can build in a hoary chroot | 08:14 |
| svenl | those are the mips includes. | 08:14 |
| fabbion3 | it's not difficult | 08:14 |
| svenl | a patch against the debian 2.6.10 kernel should do just as well though, right ? | 08:14 |
| fabbion3 | ubuntu 2.6.10 please | 08:15 |
| svenl | ok. | 08:16 |
| svenl | fabbion3: first i need to make an upstream patch though. | 08:17 |
| fabbion3 | that's fine by me | 08:18 |
| svenl | fabbion3: what about mkvmlinuz support script ? | 08:18 |
| svenl | fabbion3: maybe you can try that in the meantime ? | 08:18 |
| fabbion3 | if you have an http server somewhere you can just branch out from /t and i can merge from you | 08:18 |
| fabbion3 | svenl: yes gimme the patch and i will test it in the meanwhile | 08:18 |
| svenl | fabbion3: you get the svn://svn.debian.org/svn/kernel/trunk/kernel/powerpc/kernel-patch-powerpc-2.6.10-2.6.10/debian/post-install | 08:20 |
| svenl | and move it to kernel-tree/debian before calling make-kpkh kernel-image | 08:21 |
| svenl | debian powerpc package does : | 08:21 |
| svenl | cd debian; cp -p changelog control copyright post-install $(KSOURCE)/debian | 08:21 |
| svenl | in configure, after having unpacked the kernel tree, but i bet you know best when to do it. | 08:22 |
| svenl | it is a make-kpkg install hook. | 08:22 |
| fabbion3 | svenl: ok i will look at it, but i would really love to get simple patches to our tree to do stuff like that. it takes me a lot of time to check exactly what needs to be done and why. | 08:25 |
| fabbion3 | also are we sure that our make-kpkg is the same as in debian with the same support hooks and stuff? | 08:25 |
| svenl | fabbion3: yep, as soon as i am able to install ubuntu, i will do it, right now it seems tzsetup-udeb broke since yesterday, see my message on #ubuntu-devel. | 08:29 |
| fabbion3 | svenl: just a suggestion, since we are in short of time due to release, can you just bootstrap a chroot to make the patches? | 08:30 |
| fabbion3 | you only need to manually install debootstrap from ubuntu | 08:31 |
| svenl | fabbion3: and last i tried, debootstrapping a ubuntu partition, i failed horribly. | 08:31 |
| fabbion3 | create the chroot | 08:31 |
| fabbion3 | and reinstall the debian debootstrap | 08:31 |
| fabbion3 | i can help you with that.. | 08:31 |
| fabbion3 | it's no issue | 08:31 |
| svenl | ok will try. | 08:31 |
| svenl | Damn, it now just gives me an empty blue screen for apt-configuration :/ | 08:31 |
| svenl | will relaunch the install while i prepare a debootstrap partition. | 08:32 |
| fabbion3 | do you have a dedicated partition or just a dir somewhere? | 08:32 |
| fabbion3 | iirc in both cases you need to mkdir /sys | 08:32 |
| fabbion3 | not on your system.. inside the chroot | 08:33 |
| svenl | mmm, i am installing /sys, and i have just a dir. | 08:34 |
| svenl | i mount /sys like i mounted /proc previously ? | 08:34 |
| svenl | what is the debootstrap invocation ? | 08:34 |
| svenl | E: Failed getting release file http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/hoary/Release | 08:35 |
| svenl | well, guess i have to provide for a mirror | 08:35 |
| fabbion3 | ehehe | 08:35 |
| fabbion3 | debootstrap hoary <chrootdir> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu | 08:36 |
| svenl | if doing it in fakeroot enough, or do i need to be real root. | 08:36 |
| fabbion3 | sudo or real root | 08:37 |
| fabbion3 | you can't use fakeroot for that | 08:37 |
| svenl | oh well. | 08:37 |
| svenl | ok doing it with sudo. | 08:37 |
| svenl | do i need to create the /sys before doing the debootstrap call ? | 08:38 |
| fabbion3 | yes | 08:38 |
| fabbion3 | inside the chroot | 08:38 |
| svenl | fabbion3: how can i do it inside the chroot before i finished debootstrap ? | 08:39 |
| fabbion3 | svenl: you created a directory for the chroot, right? | 08:39 |
| fabbion3 | sudo mkdir <pathtothechroot>/sys | 08:40 |
| fabbion3 | that's more than enough | 08:40 |
| fabbion3 | it's just a simple dir | 08:40 |
| fabbion3 | but it needs to be done by root | 08:40 |
| svenl | ok. | 08:41 |
| svenl | what about /proc ? | 08:41 |
| svenl | ok launched, let's hope it will be ok now. | 08:41 |
| fabbion3 | proc is handled by debootstrap | 08:43 |
| fabbion3 | no need to touch it | 08:43 |
| svenl | ah ... i had it mounted already, i hope this will not cause problems ? | 08:44 |
| fabbion3 | probably not | 08:44 |
| svenl | Mmm, i really need to get a apt proxy going here, i wonder if i can configure my router to automatically redirect apt calls to it, but i don't think so. | 08:46 |
| svenl | will take a while though, since i don't have 2.6.10 in my ccache, and have a slower machine than yours. | 08:48 |
| fabbion3 | svenl: 2 hints | 08:50 |
| fabbion3 | in debian/config/powerpc | 08:50 |
| fabbion3 | there are the configs for $flavour | 08:51 |
| fabbion3 | just leave one there that is known to use that card | 08:51 |
| fabbion3 | and in debian/rules | 08:51 |
| fabbion3 | there is a commented line CONCURRENCY_LEVEL | 08:51 |
| fabbion3 | even if your machine is UP | 08:51 |
| fabbion3 | set it to 4 or 8 | 08:51 |
| fabbion3 | the kernel benefits a lot of that | 08:51 |
| fabbion3 | it will slow down your box for a little while | 08:52 |
| svenl | i use 8, and i use both ccache, and a two machine distcc setup. | 08:56 |
| fabbion3 | svenl: good | 08:56 |
| fabbion3 | it will take much less to build | 08:56 |
| svenl | yep. | 08:56 |
| svenl | normal build is 1.5 hours though. | 08:56 |
| T-None | morning svenl, fabbion3 | 08:57 |
| svenl | hi T-None | 08:57 |
| svenl | mmm, making a backup of my chroot, just in case. | 08:58 |
| fabbion3 | hi T-None | 08:58 |
| === T-None heads to work, will be back in ~9h | ||
| T-None | have a nice day, fellows 8) | 08:59 |
| svenl | T-None: you too. | 08:59 |
| T-None | thx | 08:59 |
| fabbione | cya leter | 08:59 |
| === T-None is gone | ||
| fabbione | mdz: ping? | 09:05 |
| mdz | fabbione: going to sleep shortly | 09:05 |
| fabbione | mdz: i found a driver in the kernel that we forgot to update even before UVF | 09:07 |
| fabbione | and i think the new version can fix a maj bug | 09:07 |
| mdz | email about it, please, I'm crashing | 09:07 |
| fabbione | sure | 09:07 |
| fabbione | good night :-) | 09:07 |
| svenl | chroot created. | 09:08 |
| svenl | fabbione: can i build only the powerpc kernels, and not the full source stuff ? | 09:10 |
| fabbione | yes | 09:10 |
| fabbione | just do a fakeroot make -f debian/rules build | 09:11 |
| fabbione | it will leave the .deb files in debian/build | 09:11 |
| fabbione | you still need to cleanup debian/config/powerpc if you want to remove flavours | 09:11 |
| svenl | yep. | 09:11 |
| svenl | debian's setup is somewhat nicer, since it has a file (debian/flavours) where you can just list the flavours you want to build. | 09:12 |
| svenl | Ok, i have a upstream patch against 2.6.10, need to test it. | 09:14 |
| fabbione | bah screw mppe | 09:15 |
| fabbione | there is no new kernel driver | 09:15 |
| fabbione | only a newer userland daemon | 09:15 |
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| svenl | hi kylem | 09:29 |
| kylem | hiya. | 09:29 |
| fabbione | hey kylem | 09:29 |
| svenl | fabbione: i have a version of the patch against upstream for 2.6.10, do you want to test it ? Will take a while (read couple hours) for me. | 09:30 |
| === kylem figured he should be paying attention here too. | ||
| kylem | :) | 09:30 |
| fabbione | svenl: can you just please send one patch when you believe you are done, and i will test it? | 09:31 |
| svenl | fabbione: it replaces the powerpc-mv643xx-enet.dpatch one. | 09:31 |
| svenl | fabbione: ok. | 09:31 |
| svenl | fabbione: ok to include the mkvmlinuz support too ? | 09:31 |
| svenl | fabbione: and to fill a proper bug report with it ? | 09:32 |
| mjg59 | fabbione: What's the situation with pre-Hoary changes? Nothing now unless it's low-impact and verified to fix a bug? | 09:32 |
| fabbione | there is no need for a bug.. just send me the patches :-) | 09:32 |
| fabbione | mjg59: kinda | 09:32 |
| svenl | fabbione: ok. | 09:33 |
| fabbione | i need to go for 10 minutes... | 09:33 |
| fabbione | brb | 09:33 |
| mjg59 | We've still got some machines with missing batteries, and there's an acpi patch that /may/ fix it | 09:33 |
| mjg59 | But I don't understand what it does, I don't have any of the affected hardware here, and, well... | 09:33 |
| fabbione | mjg59: did you test the patch for possible regression? | 09:48 |
| fabbione | i have one laptop here too to test it | 09:48 |
| mjg59 | fabbione: No, haven't done that yet | 09:49 |
| fabbione | mjg59: ok, can you do it and send me the dpatch? | 09:49 |
| mjg59 | Sure. What sort of timescale are we looking at? I won't have a chance to look at this until tomorrow, probably | 09:49 |
| fabbione | mjg59: well i am working on trying to fix some bugs | 09:50 |
| fabbione | the big fat bastard went out yesterday | 09:50 |
| fabbione | so we have a few days | 09:50 |
| mjg59 | Yeah. Thanks for the b44 fix | 09:50 |
| fabbione | no problem | 09:50 |
| fabbione | mjg59: you can also branch off from baz | 09:51 |
| fabbione | and i can merge from you, if that makes thing easier | 09:51 |
| fabbione | the archive is on people | 09:51 |
| fabbione | http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/Archives/kernel-team@ubuntu.com--2005/ | 09:52 |
| === ..[topic/#ubuntu-kernel:fabbione] : Ubuntu kernel development discussion | http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/KernelTeam | check the new abichecker code and GET familiar with it | http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/Archives/kernel-team@ubuntu.com--2005/ | kernel-team@ubuntu.com--2005/kernel-debian--pre29--2.6.10 | ||
| mjg59 | Then I'd have to figure out how to use baz! | 09:53 |
| fabbione | mjg59: that'd be very easy for you ;) | 09:56 |
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| fabbione | svenl: the 2 new patches are the one you committed to svn? | 11:31 |
| svenl | fabbione: indeed. | 11:32 |
| fabbione | ok | 11:32 |
| svenl | need to test first, will tell you once i did. | 11:32 |
| fabbione | ok | 11:33 |
| smurfix | fabbione: WRT #7633, dunno what else to try, fast USB works here and I seem to have the same USB hardware :-/ | 01:10 |
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| zul | hey | 02:57 |
| zul | heh...it looks like the canadians outnumber everyone here | 02:58 |
| jbailey | Hmm, you, me, kyle... | 03:03 |
| jbailey | I don't know where Daniel or Matthias is from. | 03:03 |
| zul | do we want a doc in the wiki on how to get the baz stuff? | 03:30 |
| kylem | :) | 03:39 |
| jbailey | zul: Do you have a sec to look at the last couple of entries on 1440 with me? | 03:41 |
| mjg59 | fabbione: Ok, looks like the battery problem is down to the battery module not being loaded... | 03:41 |
| jbailey | zul: Looks like we might have another live one. | 03:41 |
| zul | jbailey: am at work but ill have a look | 03:42 |
| zul | which one? | 03:42 |
| jbailey | zul: don't worry about it. I'm just looking for a sanity check before I reopen this one... again... *cRy* | 03:42 |
| zul | heh | 03:42 |
| jbailey | Two two dmesg's. User claims array-6 works. dmesg seems to show ata_piix doing the right thing with the PATA CD Rom. Nightly dmesg shows it not being picked up and ide-generic failing to grab it. | 03:43 |
| jbailey | s/^Two/The/ | 03:43 |
| zul | ok...ill have a look in a little bit there is people coming in and out of my office ;) | 03:45 |
| svenl | fabbione: i get this : | 04:36 |
| svenl | Use of uninitialized value in split at /usr/share/kernel-wedge/commands/gen-control line 36, <KVERS> line 3. | 04:36 |
| svenl | Use of uninitialized value in split at /usr/share/kernel-wedge/commands/gen-control line 36, <KVERS> line 4. | 04:36 |
| svenl | Use of uninitialized value in pattern match (m//) at /usr/share/kernel-wedge/commands/gen-control line 161. | 04:36 |
| svenl | Use of uninitialized value in pattern match (m//) at /usr/share/kernel-wedge/commands/gen-control line 161. | 04:36 |
| svenl | seems to build fine though afterward. | 04:37 |
| fabbione | argh | 04:43 |
| fabbione | i crashed | 04:43 |
| fabbione | smurfix: ok. thanks a lot! | 04:43 |
| fabbione | mjg59: hmmm is that loaded by laptop-mode or something? | 04:44 |
| fabbione | svenl: these warnings are harmless | 04:44 |
| mjg59 | fabbione: No, it should be loaded by acpid | 04:44 |
| fabbione | mjg59: ok, do we know why it doesn't load it? | 04:45 |
| mjg59 | Nope. | 04:45 |
| mjg59 | Can't reproduce it here. | 04:45 |
| svenl | fabbione: seems so, harmless but annoying. | 04:46 |
| fabbione | i know it's harmless. they have been there since ages | 04:46 |
| fabbione | mjg59: what about just forcing it? | 04:46 |
| mjg59 | fabbione: If they add it to /etc/modules, it loads | 04:47 |
| mjg59 | So, uh. | 04:47 |
| svenl | damn i forgot to remove marvel-pegasos-2 :/ | 04:53 |
| fabbione | lamont: sorry but -28 on hppa will fail | 05:04 |
| lamont | woot | 05:07 |
| lamont | why for? | 05:07 |
| lamont | I'll create 28hppa1 locally (or maybe 29hppa1 by the time I get to it...), and then merge that back in | 05:08 |
| zul | sweetness i can access my baz stuff from work as well | 05:08 |
| fabbione | becasue the clean target is borked | 05:08 |
| fabbione | and it checks for abi files that are not there | 05:08 |
| fabbione | as well the build target does NOT check for the override | 05:09 |
| fabbione | so basically i messed it up a bit | 05:09 |
| lamont | np. plan is to create the abi files with -28 and merge those for -29 | 05:11 |
| lamont | assuming I get time to mess with -28 before -29 happends | 05:11 |
| lamont | or maybe kylem/t-bone will beat me to it... | 05:12 |
| fabbione | that will need manual tricks to build | 05:14 |
| fabbione | but it's ok | 05:14 |
| lamont | fabbione: we need a README or something that says how to create new ABI files... Or maybe that just wants to be a debian/rules target, for when we intentionally bump the abi? | 05:21 |
| fabbione | lamont: the abi files are created at build time and the build rules already move them in the right place | 05:22 |
| fabbione | from the build tree to debian/abi/$cur_version/$arch/$flavour | 05:22 |
| fabbione | so basically you only need to collect them around the different buildd | 05:22 |
| fabbione | i would much rather have a makenewrelease: target | 05:22 |
| lamont | ah, ok. | 05:22 |
| lamont | yes, definitely want a newrelease target | 05:23 |
| fabbione | that will create everything that needs to be created | 05:23 |
| fabbione | and check for what has been done and what is missing | 05:23 |
| fabbione | i was supposed to do it today | 05:23 |
| fabbione | but after lunch i layed in bed 5 minutes with my wife | 05:23 |
| fabbione | and i woke up after 5 hours | 05:23 |
| fabbione | new debian/rules should work with $arch.override | 05:24 |
| lamont | sometimes your body makes you obey it... | 05:25 |
| fabbione | tbh.. i didn't even try to make reistance... | 05:25 |
| fabbione | resistance even | 05:25 |
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| zul | that was weird | 05:26 |
| zul | who added pmac_pmdisk? | 05:38 |
| kylem | it went in through Pavel. | 05:39 |
| kylem | and benh is upset. | 05:39 |
| kylem | there were a couple mails on linux-kernel about it two days ago, i could dig them up if you'd like. | 05:40 |
| zul | its making me upset now :) | 05:40 |
| kylem | heh. | 05:40 |
| zul | lunch | 05:42 |
| mjg59 | benh is unhappy from a this isn't clean enough yet point of view rather than a this doesn't work yet point of view (as I understand it) | 05:54 |
| mjg59 | It seems to work pretty well, so we're including it... | 05:54 |
| kylem | from what i can tell, he's also unhappy from a "hey, somebody subverted due process, grr at them" standpoint, justifiably. | 05:58 |
| fabbione | lamont: bumpabi: target is in place | 06:01 |
| fabbione | note: run it only once. it doesn't backup | 06:01 |
| fabbione | lamont, zul: what would you like the "prepare a new release" target should do ? | 06:17 |
| fabbione | in details? | 06:17 |
| lamont | fabbione: re: abibump.... heh | 06:23 |
| lamont | new release: create 00list files | 06:24 |
| lamont | and bump changelog | 06:24 |
| fabbione | because even the clean target will fail if all the abi files aren't in place | 06:24 |
| zul | what lamont said | 06:49 |
| fabbione | yeah.. i have almost done | 06:52 |
| fabbione | is that ok that the abi stuff is checked instead of created? | 06:52 |
| fabbione | it would happen in seq anyway | 06:52 |
| fabbione | first you "createthenewrelease" | 06:53 |
| fabbione | and at the first time you run a make clean | 06:53 |
| fabbione | it will check all the stuff | 06:53 |
| zul | yeah it should be ok we could always change it later | 06:54 |
| fabbione | yeah | 06:55 |
| lamont | sounds good | 06:56 |
| === T-None is now known as T-Bone | ||
| T-Bone | howdy buddies | 06:56 |
| zul | hey T-Bone | 06:56 |
| T-Bone | oh, so there's been a settlement over "Breezy", heh? :) | 06:58 |
| zul | hmm? | 07:01 |
| === T-Bone reads mail on u-announce | ||
| zul | ah ok | 07:02 |
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| fabbione | <@bubba-> Ubuntu release, | 07:06 |
| fabbione | <@bubba-> due in October 2005... It will be known as Ubuntu 5.10, the Breezy Badger! | 07:06 |
| fabbione | <@bubba-> oh my god how gay | 07:07 |
| fabbione | [snip a few tons of other comments] | 07:07 |
| T-Bone | huhu | 07:07 |
| === T-Bone has NFC what a badger is, so the name sounds just "windy" to him | ||
| === T-Bone looks up | ||
| T-Bone | oh | 07:09 |
| T-Bone | what a nice animal | 07:09 |
| T-Bone | now the name sounds "smelly" to me 8) | 07:09 |
| === T-Bone ducks | ||
| fabbione | i start to hate shell in makefiles | 07:21 |
| fabbione | makenewlists: | 07:25 |
| fabbione | list="$(shell ls debian/patches/00list-$(revision)*)"; \ | 07:25 |
| fabbione | for i in $$list; do \ | 07:25 |
| fabbione | newname="$(shell echo '$$i' | sed -e 's/00list-$(revision)/00list-$(nextrev)/g')"; \ | 07:25 |
| fabbione | echo $$i; \ | 07:25 |
| fabbione | echo $$newname; \ | 07:25 |
| fabbione | done | 07:25 |
| fabbione | wth is wrong with newname= ? | 07:26 |
| zul | has anyone seen the part in monty python's holy grail when they build alarge wooden rabbit and theire backup plan was a large wooden badger | 07:26 |
| kylem | hehe. | 07:27 |
| fabbione | http://www.badgerbadgerbadger.com/ <- | 07:28 |
| fabbione | we can get this as boot logo :-) | 07:28 |
| zul | lol!!! | 07:29 |
| kylem | hmm, i think the mushroom should be the logo. | 07:29 |
| fabbione | no that's impossible | 07:30 |
| === T-Bone doesn't have flash. These are those badger jumping around with humping theme music ? :) | ||
| fabbione | we eat them | 07:30 |
| fabbione | no colored mushroom? no kernel... | 07:32 |
| fabbione | http://www.saskschools.ca/~gregory/animals/images/bdgr2.jpg | 07:33 |
| fabbione | this is cute | 07:33 |
| T-Bone | stinky! 8) | 07:33 |
| zul | T-Bone: no you are thinking skunks like pepe le peu | 07:42 |
| zul | the french skunk ;) | 07:43 |
| T-Bone | lol | 07:43 |
| zul | fabbione: CONFIG_IDEDMA_ONLYDISK=y <-- shouldnt that be "n"? | 07:52 |
| zul | might be a stupid question though | 07:54 |
| fabbione | no | 07:57 |
| fabbione | zul: read the backlog of the chan :-) | 07:57 |
| fabbione | you set that to N | 07:57 |
| fabbione | and you will get more dildos in your butt than goatse | 07:57 |
| T-Bone | yummy | 07:57 |
| T-Bone | care if i take pictures of that? :) | 07:57 |
| zul | mmm...goats | 07:57 |
| T-Bone | might be useful later for blackmailing 8) | 07:58 |
| fabbione | T-Bone: no.... | 07:58 |
| fabbione | T-Bone: you know why nobody can blackmail me? | 07:58 |
| fabbione | simply because everybody knows i am much worst than that | 07:58 |
| fabbione | :) | 07:58 |
| T-Bone | LOL | 07:58 |
| === T-Bone fortunes | ||
| zul | and you have plenty of goats to be serviced | 07:59 |
| fabbione | T-Bone: isn't easier for you to just wget the logs of this chan? | 07:59 |
| fabbione | ok ladies | 08:00 |
| fabbione | the new startnewrelease: target is in place | 08:00 |
| fabbione | now.. any bug.. fix it | 08:00 |
| fabbione | you have at least a baz branch :) | 08:00 |
| T-Bone | fabbione: no. Because I'm doing some parsing and selection on what I actually fortune | 08:00 |
| T-Bone | ;) | 08:00 |
| fabbione | pitti will have to offer us a few liters of beer at UDU | 08:01 |
| fabbione | we are making his life simpler on this kernel | 08:01 |
| T-Bone | by disabling everything? :) | 08:01 |
| Mithrandir | fabbione: I'm a bit scared about going to UDU. I might survive, due to being drowned in beer. | 08:02 |
| fabbione | i am not :-) | 08:03 |
| fabbione | i wanna get a bath in beer | 08:03 |
| === T-Bone pesters lamont a little, wanders off for a short while | ||
| T-Bone | berk | 08:04 |
| lamont | fabbione: in -pre29? | 08:04 |
| fabbione | lamont: yes | 08:04 |
| T-Bone | oh, lamont is back! :) | 08:04 |
| fabbione | everything is committed | 08:04 |
| lamont | doh | 08:04 |
| === T-Bone cancel wandering | ||
| T-Bone | +s | 08:04 |
| === lamont needs to take about a 30 min break | ||
| === T-Bone wanders off for 30mn then ;) | ||
| T-Bone | (much better when we synchronize dude ;o) | 08:05 |
| === T-Bone ducks | ||
| zul | pervs | 08:05 |
| lamont | horses were mad at me, you see - bfast 4 hours late.. :0( | 08:33 |
| zul | did they bite you? | 08:34 |
| lamont | no - they just looked grumpy | 08:35 |
| zul | ah...so its kind of like my wife when she is hungry :) | 08:35 |
| zul | but she bites | 08:36 |
| === T-Bone is back | ||
| T-Bone | lamont: dude? :) | 08:41 |
| lamont | zul: heh | 08:43 |
| lamont | T-Bone: evening | 08:43 |
| T-Bone | lamont: noon! | 08:44 |
| lamont | note that hosting the archive is like the most trivial piece of the things that we need to do.... | 08:44 |
| T-Bone | hehe | 08:44 |
| lamont | the infrastructure to deal with uploads is far more work | 08:44 |
| T-Bone | no needs for uploads if it's self hosted, no? | 08:45 |
| lamont | putting the archive on the buildd machine is kinda silly... | 08:45 |
| lamont | since the buildd machine is, by very definition, compromised | 08:46 |
| T-Bone | who said it'd be on the buildd machine? | 08:46 |
| T-Bone | oh | 08:46 |
| T-Bone | i guess i get your point | 08:46 |
| lamont | so it'll be uploading to the archive machine, then, eh? | 08:46 |
| T-Bone | you mean "it's far more work wherever the uploads go"? | 08:46 |
| kylem | * tree version set kernel-team@ubuntu.com--2005/kernel-debian--pre29--2.6.10 | 08:46 |
| kylem | ok. figured that much out. | 08:47 |
| kylem | :) | 08:47 |
| T-Bone | lol | 08:47 |
| jbailey | zul: Did you get a chance to look at the 1440 dmesg snippets? | 08:47 |
| zul | jbailey: net yet.. | 08:47 |
| zul | i guess i could do it now :) | 08:48 |
| lamont | T-Bone: yes | 08:48 |
| lamont | kylem: heh. now what? | 08:48 |
| kylem | lamont, now i peruse, i suppose. | 08:48 |
| lamont | you want something local to play with> | 08:48 |
| zul | jbailey: comment #85? | 08:48 |
| jbailey | zul: If you could that would be nice. I'm mostly hoping that I missed something... | 08:48 |
| kylem | lamont, i suspect the important bit is d-i | 08:48 |
| lamont | kylem: yeah. d-i makes life more interesting, to be sure. | 08:49 |
| jbailey | zul: 84 and 85, yes. | 08:49 |
| lamont | kylem: as I understand it, debian-installer_20041227ubuntu20 should be state-of-the-art for hppa d-i | 08:50 |
| kylem | alrighty. | 08:50 |
| lamont | build that, and you should get a bootable miniso... | 08:50 |
| kylem | argh. no netinst? | 08:50 |
| === T-Bone points lamont at some other window :) | ||
| lamont | of course, the initrd is b0rked, so it's a pretty useless-but-bootable iso | 08:50 |
| T-Bone | lol | 08:50 |
| lamont | T-Bone: ah, scrolled off the right | 08:50 |
| lamont | kylem: it builds a netbootiso as well | 08:51 |
| kylem | ah, annoying. oh well. i should just slap a cdrom in the c3k, i need to do some debian d-i testing as well. | 08:51 |
| === T-Bone will have material to hack on pretty soon now ;) | ||
| lamont | kylem: the initrd b0rkage is best summed up as 'nearly empty, needs modules' | 08:52 |
| lamont | the question is, which modules... | 08:52 |
| kylem | yah. that will need to be fixed in debian too, so it's probably what i'll look at first. | 08:52 |
| zul | jbailey: on the first one there is an sr0 on the second there isnt which is weird | 08:53 |
| jbailey | zul: Right, and I don't see the pata initialisation at all. | 08:54 |
| zul | and it doesnt see the plexor eiter | 08:54 |
| jbailey | I see ide-generic trying to grab the IDE CD down below with no success. | 08:54 |
| jbailey | Kernel ide will actually not suck one day, right? | 08:54 |
| zul | 2.6.11 i hear :) | 08:55 |
| kylem | not before PATA dies, i hear. :) | 08:55 |
| zul | you can try loading piix module im justy guessing ill have a look at it more tonight when i get home | 08:56 |
| jbailey | kylem: So far it's not like SATA is having a raving success rating. =) | 08:56 |
| zul | kylem: ex-oclug baord member right? | 08:56 |
| jbailey | zul: But otherwise you concur that 1440 looks like it's alive and well again? | 08:57 |
| kylem | zul, well, not ex... :) | 08:57 |
| zul | jbailey: yeah on some cases | 08:57 |
| zul | kylem: heh | 08:57 |
| kylem | zul, i'd like to be ex, but unfortunately not enough competent people were running. | 08:57 |
| kylem | jbailey, lol. | 08:57 |
| zul | kylem: you could always have pinteric as a board member | 08:58 |
| kylem | please, no. | 08:58 |
| zul | heheh...im so evil | 08:58 |
| === smurfix [~smurf@run.smurf.noris.de] has joined #ubuntu-kernel | ||
| kylem | ah well. i'll let the people decide. | 08:59 |
| kylem | lamont, do you guys have an installer channel? | 08:59 |
| T-Bone | kylem: no | 09:00 |
| kylem | ah, ok. | 09:00 |
| T-Bone | kylem: the installer guru is Kamion on #u-devel | 09:00 |
| jbailey | I'm on 5 #ubuntu- channels as it is. Please don't make more. =) | 09:01 |
| lamont | kylem: ubuntu-devel :-) | 09:01 |
| kylem | yeah, i found it, unfortunately the 'team' stuff on the website and wiki is divergent. :) | 09:02 |
| zul | jbailey: he isnt loading ata_piix in his initrd is he? | 09:11 |
| jbailey | zul: I can't tell from this. It looks like no, since there's usb stuff loaded first. | 09:14 |
| jbailey | Hmm. It would be interested to collect the output of lspci and lspci -n from all the ubuntu maintainers so that we could hit on them for hardware driver testing. | 09:15 |
| Mithrandir | jbailey: scary. :) | 09:17 |
| zul | isnt that what ogra is doing? | 09:17 |
| === Mithrandir runs off to dancing | ||
| jbailey | Is he? That would be lovely. | 09:18 |
| jbailey | The past thing about the previous 2 SATA bits were that I had a box and thom had a box. | 09:18 |
| jbailey | zul: Oh. The second one is inside d-i. | 09:25 |
| jbailey | zul: So that's what hotplug I guess things the drive is. | 09:25 |
| zul | jbailey: ah ok | 09:25 |
| jbailey | hmmhmm | 09:26 |
| jbailey | I wonder if he just hasn't updated his kernel? | 09:26 |
| jbailey | Why would the currently installed system from array 6 still work? | 09:27 |
| jbailey | Both are on some form or 2.6.10-4 | 09:27 |
| zul | one probably had enable_atapi and enable_pata and the most recent kernels just ahave enable_atapi | 09:28 |
| jbailey | Is there any sane way to get the top line in dmesg to give us the actual .deb version in it? | 09:28 |
| zul | nope | 09:28 |
| jbailey | Eh, truly? | 09:28 |
| jbailey | No there must be. | 09:28 |
| jbailey | It's showing us the gcc version is was built with, it must be possible in the build to generate some sort of -D line to gcc with the deb version in it to display. | 09:29 |
| zul | actually i would have to check it might be in his kern.log | 09:29 |
| jbailey | Well, for all that I could just ask him. =) | 09:29 |
| jbailey | But it would be nice to have it just in the document already. | 09:30 |
| jbailey | Far more useful to me than the version of gcc it was compiled with. If I know the .deb version, I can figure out which gcc was in the archive at the time. | 09:30 |
| zul | jbailey: uh there is actually dmesg -s500000 | 09:30 |
| zul | buffer size is 16392 by default | 09:31 |
| jbailey | Hmm. | 09:31 |
| jbailey | I guess I Can infer the kernel version from the date it was compiled. Ugly, though. | 09:31 |
| zul | chuck@oxdev:~/work/mmaker/final$ dmesg -s500000 | grep Linux | 09:32 |
| zul | Linux version 2.6.10-5-686 (buildd@rothera) (gcc version 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-8ubuntu2)) #1 Tue Mar 15 15:16:01 UTC 2005 | 09:32 |
| zul | SELinux: Disabled at boot. | 09:32 |
| jbailey | Yes, that's the line that I'm looking at and which it had | 09:33 |
| jbailey | Linux version 2.6.10-4-686-SMP (2.6.10-27) (buildd@.... | 09:33 |
| zul | oh yeah but it doesnt tell if it was -27 or else | 09:33 |
| fabbione | what are you trying to achive? | 09:34 |
| svenl | fabbione: mmm, we already have a line : install debian/post-install $(srcdir)/debian | 09:35 |
| T-Bone | fabbione: world domination | 09:35 |
| svenl | in stamp-unpack. | 09:35 |
| jbailey | fabbione: I have someone who shows signs of having #1440 again. But it looks like his running system doesn't show it, just the installer. | 09:35 |
| svenl | where does it come from ? And will it not fail if there is no debian/post-install ? | 09:35 |
| zul | peace and goodwill and a slick of bread with some butter | 09:35 |
| jbailey | fabbione: But I'm guessing at that since I can't reliably tell that he's *actually* using the same kernel in both cases. | 09:35 |
| === svenl would change that by a install debian/post-install-$(arch) $(srcdir)/debian/post-install instead | ||
| jbailey | fabbione: Or, assuming he's not using the same kernel, what changes pertain to the exact rev he's using. | 09:36 |
| fabbione | svenl: i dunno the origin of each single bit in that package | 09:36 |
| fabbione | svenl: perhaps you want to support both post-install.${arch} with fall back to the default | 09:36 |
| fabbione | jbailey: gotcha | 09:37 |
| zul | jbailey: im pretty sure he isnt though | 09:37 |
| fabbione | T-Bone: i already own all the ubuntu users... and most of the Debian ones.. i already achieved world domination a while ago... | 09:37 |
| T-Bone | that can't be | 09:37 |
| zul | yeah but debian cant be everything | 09:38 |
| fabbione | T-Bone: as soon as Xorg 6.8.2 will be everywhere.. i will own everything | 09:38 |
| T-Bone | fabbione: i don't recall you owning *me* ;o) | 09:38 |
| jbailey | zul: Sure right, We see that in the way the ata_piix driver doesn't initialise the same in the two. | 09:38 |
| === T-Bone looks back to make sure his butt is still his ;) | ||
| fabbione | T-Bone: that's because you don't check all the changelogs of your software | 09:38 |
| zul | im pretty sure that the first one is with the pata_enable and the second one isnt since we turned off pata because it was fucking people up | 09:38 |
| T-Bone | lol | 09:38 |
| === T-Bone will let fabbione do the hard work and then will take over in a swift move 8) | ||
| zul | you might want to see if he can either load it with ata_piix or just plain piix | 09:39 |
| fabbione | T-Bone: at that time all my backdoor will rm -rf / | 09:39 |
| T-Bone | lol | 09:40 |
| fabbione | anyway | 09:40 |
| fabbione | i need to go back to my wife | 09:40 |
| T-Bone | hehe | 09:40 |
| fabbione | it wasn't a really good day today | 09:40 |
| fabbione | cya tomorrow | 09:40 |
| T-Bone | heh | 09:40 |
| T-Bone | cya dude | 09:40 |
| zul | toodles | 09:40 |
| jbailey | 'bye Fabio, may tomorrow be better. | 09:40 |
| mdz | fabbione: good night | 09:40 |
| zul | jbailey, now you made me loose track on what i was doing | 09:40 |
| jbailey | zul: Sorry. =) | 09:41 |
| jbailey | Actually, it looks like he might be using the same kernel between the two. =( | 09:45 |
| jbailey | The "working" system has a build date of March 12. That matches -27 | 09:45 |
| jbailey | His bug report time came on the 15th at 08:50. -28 wasn't built until 22:!2 | 09:46 |
| svenl | fabbione: i think that debian/post-install doesn't exist yet, can you confirm that ? | 09:49 |
| svenl | fabbione: i don't believe that kernel-package can handle two post-install scripts. | 09:49 |
| jbailey | OoOoOo, jordi mallach has one according to a Debian bug report. Sweet. | 09:53 |
| svenl | mmm, there seems already to be a post-install, maybe it should be modified in the powerpc case to call the powerpc specific one. | 09:54 |
| svenl | mmm, i can also use debian/image.d instead. | 10:13 |
| svenl | Maybe the main rule should be made to use debian/image.d/common and debian/image.d/powerpc instead. | 10:13 |
| svenl | or something, instead of post-install. | 10:13 |
| svenl | Any comment on that ? | 10:13 |
| zul | later folks | 10:26 |
| mdz | is there a reason we don't build MEGARAID_NEWGEN? | 10:51 |
| Mithrandir | I'm being told that the cds are lacking support for i2o controllers on at least amd64 | 11:49 |
| Mithrandir | would that be possible to fix? | 11:49 |
| T-Bone | Mithrandir: if you consider it safe on amd64, i guess you can enable it in the amd64 configs, and test it thoroughly so that we make sure it doesn't break anything | 11:51 |
| Mithrandir | T-Bone: I have boxes in production with the driver. :) | 11:51 |
| T-Bone | as for the inclusion on a wider scale, I don't know what's the current merge policy | 11:51 |
| Mithrandir | T-Bone: it's in the stock kernel so it's just a module to enable. | 11:52 |
| T-Bone | well then, submit a patch to kernel-team@lists.ubuntu.com, or, better, branch from our baz archive and make your changes available somewhere | 11:52 |
| T-Bone | you want to have fun with debian/configs/amd64 and debian/d-i/amd64, iirc | 11:53 |
| T-Bone | see www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/KernelTeamWork ;) | 11:53 |
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