[12:23] lamont: stop bombing my email!! :) [12:27] zul: heh [12:27] was last time, honest [12:27] well, for this change, anyway [12:28] there's only one bug left in bz that has kernel-team on it, and I'm not reopening taht bug just to change it [12:55] heh [02:42] lamont: back yet [02:44] yeah [04:43] later [06:19] morning [06:31] morning, fabbione :-) [06:47] fabbion3: when did you go all 3l1t3 on us? [06:48] i need fabbione for the dpl debate [06:48] going to switch back later :-) [06:49] otherwise it's just ETOOMANYCHAN for one client [06:50] ah, ok. [06:50] you running? or just want to be there? [06:50] how many channels am I allowed? === lamont is in 12 channels this server right now... [06:51] no the problem is not the amount of allowed chans [06:51] it's the way i like to use my client [06:51] i don't like to hide windows [06:51] so i keep all of them open at the same time [07:27] fabbion3: may have some hppa changes for a near-future kernel... [07:33] lamont: that's ok with me [07:33] i don't have any issue with portability on hppa [07:33] specially because the patches are isolated [07:34] heh [07:34] btw.. i just added the 00-list files for 29 [07:34] i must do the create_new_release: target in the make file [07:34] it's just too many thing to do atm [07:34] it's easy to forget them. [07:39] yes, please [07:39] so this abichecker... where does it live? [07:41] lamont: in debian/rules inside the clean and build target [07:41] + 2/3 things outside to export VARS like abinum [07:42] debian/abi is the dir that does the trick [07:42] ok... there's a target in debian/rules then that verifies things? [07:42] and I'll need to generate hppa files for -28 or something? [07:43] lamont: no target. it's just a direct thing in build target [07:43] ok [07:43] if you build for hppa, just add the ABI files to debian/abi/2.6.10-28/hppa/ [07:43] they are called with the same name as the config files [07:43] otherwise [07:43] since hppa is not official yet [07:44] you can just echo 1 > debian/abi/2.6.10-28/hppa.ignore [07:44] and the ABI check will be overridden [07:44] don't make an empty file [07:44] it won't survive to make clean [07:58] svenl: i am building the ppc kernel with the eth changes right now [08:00] it builds fine ? [08:00] fabbion3: did you add the mkvmlinuz support stuff too ? [08:00] it's build.. [08:00] it still needs to finish the first flavour [08:01] it compiles the arch/ppc part early on. [08:01] svenl: i am compiling with -j15 [08:01] it won't take long [08:01] too much scrolling on the screen to see it [08:02] :) [08:06] In file included from arch/ppc/platforms/mv643xx_eth_pegasos.c:18: [08:06] include/linux/mv643xx.h:16:27: asm/addrspace.h: No such file or directory [08:06] include/linux/mv643xx.h:17:25: asm/marvell.h: No such file or directory [08:06] it fails [08:06] this is 2.6.10 [08:06] are you sure you did add all the files? [08:11] well, they where for 2.6.11, maybe the files in question got added to 2.6.11 after 2.6.10. Will check. [08:12] or you can just grab them. [08:12] The problem is that my frech ubuntu install refused to boot, so i couldn't try the patches myself, but will backport them to the debian 2.6.10 kernel. [08:14] fabbion3: mmm, something is wrong here. [08:14] svenl: please just give me the complete patches [08:14] you can build in a hoary chroot [08:14] those are the mips includes. [08:14] it's not difficult [08:14] a patch against the debian 2.6.10 kernel should do just as well though, right ? [08:15] ubuntu 2.6.10 please [08:16] ok. [08:17] fabbion3: first i need to make an upstream patch though. [08:18] that's fine by me [08:18] fabbion3: what about mkvmlinuz support script ? [08:18] fabbion3: maybe you can try that in the meantime ? [08:18] if you have an http server somewhere you can just branch out from /t and i can merge from you [08:18] svenl: yes gimme the patch and i will test it in the meanwhile [08:20] fabbion3: you get the svn://svn.debian.org/svn/kernel/trunk/kernel/powerpc/kernel-patch-powerpc-2.6.10-2.6.10/debian/post-install [08:21] and move it to kernel-tree/debian before calling make-kpkh kernel-image [08:21] debian powerpc package does : [08:21] cd debian; cp -p changelog control copyright post-install $(KSOURCE)/debian [08:22] in configure, after having unpacked the kernel tree, but i bet you know best when to do it. [08:22] it is a make-kpkg install hook. [08:25] svenl: ok i will look at it, but i would really love to get simple patches to our tree to do stuff like that. it takes me a lot of time to check exactly what needs to be done and why. [08:25] also are we sure that our make-kpkg is the same as in debian with the same support hooks and stuff? [08:29] fabbion3: yep, as soon as i am able to install ubuntu, i will do it, right now it seems tzsetup-udeb broke since yesterday, see my message on #ubuntu-devel. [08:30] svenl: just a suggestion, since we are in short of time due to release, can you just bootstrap a chroot to make the patches? [08:31] you only need to manually install debootstrap from ubuntu [08:31] fabbion3: and last i tried, debootstrapping a ubuntu partition, i failed horribly. [08:31] create the chroot [08:31] and reinstall the debian debootstrap [08:31] i can help you with that.. [08:31] it's no issue [08:31] ok will try. [08:31] Damn, it now just gives me an empty blue screen for apt-configuration :/ [08:32] will relaunch the install while i prepare a debootstrap partition. [08:32] do you have a dedicated partition or just a dir somewhere? [08:32] iirc in both cases you need to mkdir /sys [08:33] not on your system.. inside the chroot [08:34] mmm, i am installing /sys, and i have just a dir. [08:34] i mount /sys like i mounted /proc previously ? [08:34] what is the debootstrap invocation ? [08:35] E: Failed getting release file http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/hoary/Release [08:35] well, guess i have to provide for a mirror [08:35] ehehe [08:36] debootstrap hoary http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu [08:36] if doing it in fakeroot enough, or do i need to be real root. [08:37] sudo or real root [08:37] you can't use fakeroot for that [08:37] oh well. [08:37] ok doing it with sudo. [08:38] do i need to create the /sys before doing the debootstrap call ? [08:38] yes [08:38] inside the chroot [08:39] fabbion3: how can i do it inside the chroot before i finished debootstrap ? [08:39] svenl: you created a directory for the chroot, right? [08:40] sudo mkdir /sys [08:40] that's more than enough [08:40] it's just a simple dir [08:40] but it needs to be done by root [08:41] ok. [08:41] what about /proc ? [08:41] ok launched, let's hope it will be ok now. [08:43] proc is handled by debootstrap [08:43] no need to touch it [08:44] ah ... i had it mounted already, i hope this will not cause problems ? [08:44] probably not [08:46] Mmm, i really need to get a apt proxy going here, i wonder if i can configure my router to automatically redirect apt calls to it, but i don't think so. [08:48] will take a while though, since i don't have 2.6.10 in my ccache, and have a slower machine than yours. [08:50] svenl: 2 hints [08:50] in debian/config/powerpc [08:51] there are the configs for $flavour [08:51] just leave one there that is known to use that card [08:51] and in debian/rules [08:51] there is a commented line CONCURRENCY_LEVEL [08:51] even if your machine is UP [08:51] set it to 4 or 8 [08:51] the kernel benefits a lot of that [08:52] it will slow down your box for a little while [08:56] i use 8, and i use both ccache, and a two machine distcc setup. [08:56] svenl: good [08:56] it will take much less to build [08:56] yep. [08:56] normal build is 1.5 hours though. [08:57] morning svenl, fabbion3 [08:57] hi T-None [08:58] mmm, making a backup of my chroot, just in case. [08:58] hi T-None === T-None heads to work, will be back in ~9h [08:59] have a nice day, fellows 8) [08:59] T-None: you too. [08:59] thx [08:59] cya leter === T-None is gone [09:05] mdz: ping? [09:05] fabbione: going to sleep shortly [09:07] mdz: i found a driver in the kernel that we forgot to update even before UVF [09:07] and i think the new version can fix a maj bug [09:07] email about it, please, I'm crashing [09:07] sure [09:07] good night :-) [09:08] chroot created. [09:10] fabbione: can i build only the powerpc kernels, and not the full source stuff ? [09:10] yes [09:11] just do a fakeroot make -f debian/rules build [09:11] it will leave the .deb files in debian/build [09:11] you still need to cleanup debian/config/powerpc if you want to remove flavours [09:11] yep. [09:12] debian's setup is somewhat nicer, since it has a file (debian/flavours) where you can just list the flavours you want to build. [09:14] Ok, i have a upstream patch against 2.6.10, need to test it. [09:15] bah screw mppe [09:15] there is no new kernel driver [09:15] only a newer userland daemon === kylem [~kyle@CPE0030ab0b413b-CM023469906297.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [09:29] hi kylem [09:29] hiya. [09:29] hey kylem [09:30] fabbione: i have a version of the patch against upstream for 2.6.10, do you want to test it ? Will take a while (read couple hours) for me. === kylem figured he should be paying attention here too. [09:30] :) [09:31] svenl: can you just please send one patch when you believe you are done, and i will test it? [09:31] fabbione: it replaces the powerpc-mv643xx-enet.dpatch one. [09:31] fabbione: ok. [09:31] fabbione: ok to include the mkvmlinuz support too ? [09:32] fabbione: and to fill a proper bug report with it ? [09:32] fabbione: What's the situation with pre-Hoary changes? Nothing now unless it's low-impact and verified to fix a bug? [09:32] there is no need for a bug.. just send me the patches :-) [09:32] mjg59: kinda [09:33] fabbione: ok. [09:33] i need to go for 10 minutes... [09:33] brb [09:33] We've still got some machines with missing batteries, and there's an acpi patch that /may/ fix it [09:33] But I don't understand what it does, I don't have any of the affected hardware here, and, well... [09:48] mjg59: did you test the patch for possible regression? [09:48] i have one laptop here too to test it [09:49] fabbione: No, haven't done that yet [09:49] mjg59: ok, can you do it and send me the dpatch? [09:49] Sure. What sort of timescale are we looking at? I won't have a chance to look at this until tomorrow, probably [09:50] mjg59: well i am working on trying to fix some bugs [09:50] the big fat bastard went out yesterday [09:50] so we have a few days [09:50] Yeah. Thanks for the b44 fix [09:50] no problem [09:51] mjg59: you can also branch off from baz [09:51] and i can merge from you, if that makes thing easier [09:51] the archive is on people [09:52] http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/Archives/kernel-team@ubuntu.com--2005/ === ..[topic/#ubuntu-kernel:fabbione] : Ubuntu kernel development discussion | http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/KernelTeam | check the new abichecker code and GET familiar with it | http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/Archives/kernel-team@ubuntu.com--2005/ | kernel-team@ubuntu.com--2005/kernel-debian--pre29--2.6.10 [09:53] Then I'd have to figure out how to use baz! [09:56] mjg59: that'd be very easy for you ;) === svenl [~luther@AStrasbourg-251-1-59-16.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [11:31] svenl: the 2 new patches are the one you committed to svn? [11:32] fabbione: indeed. [11:32] ok [11:32] need to test first, will tell you once i did. [11:33] ok [01:10] fabbione: WRT #7633, dunno what else to try, fast USB works here and I seem to have the same USB hardware :-/ === jbailey [~jbailey@CPE000ded9d787c-CM014260028338.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === zul [~chuck@198.62.158.205] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [02:57] hey [02:58] heh...it looks like the canadians outnumber everyone here [03:03] Hmm, you, me, kyle... [03:03] I don't know where Daniel or Matthias is from. [03:30] do we want a doc in the wiki on how to get the baz stuff? [03:39] :) [03:41] zul: Do you have a sec to look at the last couple of entries on 1440 with me? [03:41] fabbione: Ok, looks like the battery problem is down to the battery module not being loaded... [03:41] zul: Looks like we might have another live one. [03:42] jbailey: am at work but ill have a look [03:42] which one? [03:42] zul: don't worry about it. I'm just looking for a sanity check before I reopen this one... again... *cRy* [03:42] heh [03:43] Two two dmesg's. User claims array-6 works. dmesg seems to show ata_piix doing the right thing with the PATA CD Rom. Nightly dmesg shows it not being picked up and ide-generic failing to grab it. [03:43] s/^Two/The/ [03:45] ok...ill have a look in a little bit there is people coming in and out of my office ;) [04:36] fabbione: i get this : [04:36] Use of uninitialized value in split at /usr/share/kernel-wedge/commands/gen-control line 36, line 3. [04:36] Use of uninitialized value in split at /usr/share/kernel-wedge/commands/gen-control line 36, line 4. [04:36] Use of uninitialized value in pattern match (m//) at /usr/share/kernel-wedge/commands/gen-control line 161. [04:36] Use of uninitialized value in pattern match (m//) at /usr/share/kernel-wedge/commands/gen-control line 161. [04:37] seems to build fine though afterward. [04:43] argh [04:43] i crashed [04:43] smurfix: ok. thanks a lot! [04:44] mjg59: hmmm is that loaded by laptop-mode or something? [04:44] svenl: these warnings are harmless [04:44] fabbione: No, it should be loaded by acpid [04:45] mjg59: ok, do we know why it doesn't load it? [04:45] Nope. [04:45] Can't reproduce it here. [04:46] fabbione: seems so, harmless but annoying. [04:46] i know it's harmless. they have been there since ages [04:46] mjg59: what about just forcing it? [04:47] fabbione: If they add it to /etc/modules, it loads [04:47] So, uh. [04:53] damn i forgot to remove marvel-pegasos-2 :/ [05:04] lamont: sorry but -28 on hppa will fail [05:07] woot [05:07] why for? [05:08] I'll create 28hppa1 locally (or maybe 29hppa1 by the time I get to it...), and then merge that back in [05:08] sweetness i can access my baz stuff from work as well [05:08] becasue the clean target is borked [05:08] and it checks for abi files that are not there [05:09] as well the build target does NOT check for the override [05:09] so basically i messed it up a bit [05:11] np. plan is to create the abi files with -28 and merge those for -29 [05:11] assuming I get time to mess with -28 before -29 happends [05:12] or maybe kylem/t-bone will beat me to it... [05:14] that will need manual tricks to build [05:14] but it's ok [05:21] fabbione: we need a README or something that says how to create new ABI files... Or maybe that just wants to be a debian/rules target, for when we intentionally bump the abi? [05:22] lamont: the abi files are created at build time and the build rules already move them in the right place [05:22] from the build tree to debian/abi/$cur_version/$arch/$flavour [05:22] so basically you only need to collect them around the different buildd [05:22] i would much rather have a makenewrelease: target [05:22] ah, ok. [05:23] yes, definitely want a newrelease target [05:23] that will create everything that needs to be created [05:23] and check for what has been done and what is missing [05:23] i was supposed to do it today [05:23] but after lunch i layed in bed 5 minutes with my wife [05:23] and i woke up after 5 hours [05:24] new debian/rules should work with $arch.override [05:25] sometimes your body makes you obey it... [05:25] tbh.. i didn't even try to make reistance... [05:25] resistance even === fabbione -> coffee === zul [~chuck@198.62.158.205] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [05:26] that was weird [05:38] who added pmac_pmdisk? [05:39] it went in through Pavel. [05:39] and benh is upset. [05:40] there were a couple mails on linux-kernel about it two days ago, i could dig them up if you'd like. [05:40] its making me upset now :) [05:40] heh. [05:42] lunch [05:54] benh is unhappy from a this isn't clean enough yet point of view rather than a this doesn't work yet point of view (as I understand it) [05:54] It seems to work pretty well, so we're including it... [05:58] from what i can tell, he's also unhappy from a "hey, somebody subverted due process, grr at them" standpoint, justifiably. [06:01] lamont: bumpabi: target is in place [06:01] note: run it only once. it doesn't backup [06:17] lamont, zul: what would you like the "prepare a new release" target should do ? [06:17] in details? [06:23] fabbione: re: abibump.... heh [06:24] new release: create 00list files [06:24] and bump changelog [06:24] because even the clean target will fail if all the abi files aren't in place [06:49] what lamont said [06:52] yeah.. i have almost done [06:52] is that ok that the abi stuff is checked instead of created? [06:52] it would happen in seq anyway [06:53] first you "createthenewrelease" [06:53] and at the first time you run a make clean [06:53] it will check all the stuff [06:54] yeah it should be ok we could always change it later [06:55] yeah [06:56] sounds good === T-None is now known as T-Bone [06:56] howdy buddies [06:56] hey T-Bone [06:58] oh, so there's been a settlement over "Breezy", heh? :) [07:01] hmm? === T-Bone reads mail on u-announce [07:02] ah ok === Seveas [~seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [07:06] <@bubba-> Ubuntu release, [07:06] <@bubba-> due in October 2005... It will be known as Ubuntu 5.10, the Breezy Badger! [07:07] <@bubba-> oh my god how gay [07:07] [snip a few tons of other comments] [07:07] huhu === T-Bone has NFC what a badger is, so the name sounds just "windy" to him === T-Bone looks up [07:09] oh [07:09] what a nice animal [07:09] now the name sounds "smelly" to me 8) === T-Bone ducks [07:21] i start to hate shell in makefiles [07:25] makenewlists: [07:25] list="$(shell ls debian/patches/00list-$(revision)*)"; \ [07:25] for i in $$list; do \ [07:25] newname="$(shell echo '$$i' | sed -e 's/00list-$(revision)/00list-$(nextrev)/g')"; \ [07:25] echo $$i; \ [07:25] echo $$newname; \ [07:25] done [07:26] wth is wrong with newname= ? [07:26] has anyone seen the part in monty python's holy grail when they build alarge wooden rabbit and theire backup plan was a large wooden badger [07:27] hehe. [07:28] http://www.badgerbadgerbadger.com/ <- [07:28] we can get this as boot logo :-) [07:29] lol!!! [07:29] hmm, i think the mushroom should be the logo. [07:30] no that's impossible === T-Bone doesn't have flash. These are those badger jumping around with humping theme music ? :) [07:30] we eat them [07:32] no colored mushroom? no kernel... [07:33] http://www.saskschools.ca/~gregory/animals/images/bdgr2.jpg [07:33] this is cute [07:33] stinky! 8) [07:42] T-Bone: no you are thinking skunks like pepe le peu [07:43] the french skunk ;) [07:43] lol [07:52] fabbione: CONFIG_IDEDMA_ONLYDISK=y <-- shouldnt that be "n"? [07:54] might be a stupid question though [07:57] no [07:57] zul: read the backlog of the chan :-) [07:57] you set that to N [07:57] and you will get more dildos in your butt than goatse [07:57] yummy [07:57] care if i take pictures of that? :) [07:57] mmm...goats [07:58] might be useful later for blackmailing 8) [07:58] T-Bone: no.... [07:58] T-Bone: you know why nobody can blackmail me? [07:58] simply because everybody knows i am much worst than that [07:58] :) [07:58] LOL === T-Bone fortunes [07:59] and you have plenty of goats to be serviced [07:59] T-Bone: isn't easier for you to just wget the logs of this chan? [08:00] ok ladies [08:00] the new startnewrelease: target is in place [08:00] now.. any bug.. fix it [08:00] you have at least a baz branch :) [08:00] fabbione: no. Because I'm doing some parsing and selection on what I actually fortune [08:00] ;) [08:01] pitti will have to offer us a few liters of beer at UDU [08:01] we are making his life simpler on this kernel [08:01] by disabling everything? :) [08:02] fabbione: I'm a bit scared about going to UDU. I might survive, due to being drowned in beer. [08:03] i am not :-) [08:03] i wanna get a bath in beer === T-Bone pesters lamont a little, wanders off for a short while [08:04] berk [08:04] fabbione: in -pre29? [08:04] lamont: yes [08:04] oh, lamont is back! :) [08:04] everything is committed [08:04] doh === T-Bone cancel wandering [08:04] +s === lamont needs to take about a 30 min break === T-Bone wanders off for 30mn then ;) [08:05] (much better when we synchronize dude ;o) === T-Bone ducks [08:05] pervs [08:33] horses were mad at me, you see - bfast 4 hours late.. :0( [08:34] did they bite you? [08:35] no - they just looked grumpy [08:35] ah...so its kind of like my wife when she is hungry :) [08:36] but she bites === T-Bone is back [08:41] lamont: dude? :) [08:43] zul: heh [08:43] T-Bone: evening [08:44] lamont: noon! [08:44] note that hosting the archive is like the most trivial piece of the things that we need to do.... [08:44]