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nilsLscizzo: I'll try that.12:00
crimsunriddley: linux-headers-foo doesn't populate /lib/modules at all12:01
riddleycrimsun: :) hehe I thought I just said that to you..12:01
CarinArri'm trying to install the kvim package using synaptic and get the error: Depends: vim but 1:6.3-025+1ubuntu2.2 is to be installed, i don't quite get what the problem is12:01
bwlangriddley: what driver is this?  did you modify your xorg.conf to tell it to send  scroll events... Option      "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"12:01
crimsunriddley: rather, it populates /usr/src/linux-headers-foo so that the /lib/modules/foo/build symlink is _valid_12:01
scizzonilsL: if it does not work...then I guess that you can't install some other package either?12:01
padlefothave anybody else installed the 2.6.10-7 kernel?12:02
bwlangCarinArr: it's saying that kvim is depending on a different version of vim...12:02
riddleycrimsun: AAAH! I stupidly created the directory prior to install... I'll install the headers again12:02
nilsLscizzo: Doesn't work in synaptic neither.12:02
nilsLscizzo: No idea.12:02
CarinArrso the version i have installed at the moment is to recent?12:02
CarinArrcause at the moment the vim version installed is the one it mentions in that message12:03
bwlangCarinArr: dunno - kvim will tell you what it depends on...12:03
riddleybwlang: this mouse has 15 buttons. I wrote this: http://deadman.org/X/xbuttons.html12:03
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bammanyone using nautilus-2.10.0 and can confirm that it can't thumbnail svg images?12:03
bwlangriddley: 15 buttons... really you need 15 buttons !? - to each his own i guess.. ;)12:03
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riddleyI'd have 100 if I could :)12:04
nilsLscizzo: It say something about dpkg, what is that?12:04
bwlangriddley: whatever...12:04
riddleycrimsun: I'm reading /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-headers-2.6.10-4.postinst and I see no mention of linking build anywhere... what's the proper place to link it to?12:05
scizzonilsL: dpkg is the tool to install the packages with12:06
pagefaultbamm, no problem here previewing SVG files12:06
bammpagefault: thanks12:06
bammnow to figure out why it just shows the svg icon12:06
riddleycrimsun: nm12:06
scizzonilsL: apt-get update ; apt-get -f install ; apt-get install openssh-server12:07
scizzonilsL: try that12:07
scizzonilsL: otherwise if that does not help: dpkg -l |grep openssh12:07
riddleyanyone in here running on amd64 ?12:07
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bammpagefault: you are using 2.10.0 correct?12:07
pagefaultbamm, yeah12:08
bammk, thanks for confirming12:08
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nilsLscizzo: /etc/ssh/sshd_config: No such file or directory12:09
nilsLdpkg: error processing openssh-server (--configure):12:09
nilsL subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 112:09
nilsLscizzo: And then the same error-message (1).12:09
ewhitte1ouch.  okay, my system is back to locking up completely.  Any idea how I can tell what it's doing when this happens?12:10
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evilbuttersif I just downloaded a program and its in my home folder, how would I go about installing it?12:10
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scizzonilsL: did you change anything on the machine and can you ssh to it now?12:10
steltIs there a "I like this stuff, go install it at my harddrive" button on the liveCD ?12:11
nilsLI was compiling a openssh-binary that I found when a friend told me to just do the apt-get install instead, but that didn't work as you've seen.12:11
nilsLI can't ssh to it now.12:12
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nilsLstelt: No.12:12
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scizzonilsL: ok...on the machine run this: apt-get remove --purge openssh-server ; apt-get clean ; apt-get install openssh-server12:12
steltnilsL: too bad. I think that would be good12:13
scizzoif the first command returns error...then: dpkg --purge openssh-server12:13
wartyhi all , i have a big problem , now i'm using ubuntu from live cd , and i have tried to install ubuntu but i couldn't make a partition for it12:13
ia1what's the right way to disable ipv6?  I think it may be causing slow dns lookups12:13
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scizzobrb12:14
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wartyafter i have tried this my pc doesn't boot from anything12:15
spadeshttp://www.ubuntuguide.org/#disableipv6-mozilla12:15
ian__spades: it's more than just mozilla, dns lookups everywhere are slow12:16
wartyno one can help me ?12:16
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scizzonilsL: how is it going?12:17
spadesian__: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19206&highlight=ipv6  second to last post or so12:17
nilsLscizzo: Didn't work :\12:18
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nilsLscizzo: Same error.12:18
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dazed||lapgod i love ubu12:19
andrilhello all12:19
andrilany one using the hoary 5.04 review yet?12:19
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Levianyes!12:19
scizzonilsL: seems like you need to get a older version12:19
andril*preview12:19
Levianbut its also the first one I tried12:20
Levianso I dont have much to compare with12:20
binbraini just installed ubuntu hoary which has xorg now instead of XFree8612:20
andrilhow is it?12:20
binbrainmy resolution is now way off.12:20
LevianI love it12:20
binbrainbut I can't get it fixed12:20
Levianeverything worked perfectly12:20
Levianexcept for a user issue12:20
andrilooops - problems12:20
scizzonilsL: can you tell me the version you download?12:20
dazed||lapim upgrading to hoary as we speak12:20
nilsLscizzo: OK...12:20
scizzonilsL: full version details12:20
nilsLscizzo: openssh-2.1.1p4.tar.gz12:21
andrilI'll stay with the 4.10 build of warty - since i ditched windows12:21
scizzowow...12:21
ian__spades: trying... thanks.12:21
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scizzothat is a not a .deb file12:21
dazed||lapi ditched windows as well andril12:21
scizzonilsL: I ment the file you where getting from apt-get12:21
andrilwell at least till this release is final12:21
dazed||lapon the pc12:21
dazed||lapand the pc is sticking with warty12:21
geneo91i have a few issues with hoary but i'm going to wait till i get all the updates12:21
dazed||lapthe laptop is backed up with windows so it gets an update :)12:22
andrilI have found so much use for Ubuntu - all I have to is learn to serve (ftp,web & email) then I'l be complete\12:22
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BenMhey guys, if i use the live cd and when i startup, my monitor tells me that the `frequency is out of range' what should I do12:23
andrilUnfortunately I have a overpriced Win machine still going in my rack12:23
BenMam able to get to vt112:23
BenMso i can issue commands12:23
nilsLscizzo: 1:3.8.1p1-11ubuntu312:23
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andrilhow much of a difference is it from the Warty release? any comparison?12:24
scizzonilsL: in a terminal: wget http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/o/openssh/openssh-server_3.8.1p1-11ubuntu3.1_i386.deb12:24
scizzonilsL: now that is a new package from security12:25
scizzonilsL: we need to do some other things before installing that though12:25
EfaistOsi have a little problem when i try to burn some datas on a DVDRW with nautilus-cd-burner  i got this message : File image creeation failed Incorrectly encoded string ... do u know how to bypass it?12:25
scizzonilsL: dpkg --purge openssh-server12:25
scizzonilsL: hmmm...btw....are you installing with sudo?12:25
nilsLscizzo: sudo su12:25
zenroxno su12:26
zenroxjust sudo12:26
nilsLWhat's the difference?12:26
nilsLI type: sudo su to get to root?12:26
scizzonilsL: sudo -s -H12:26
scizzonilsL: that is what I use anyway12:27
geneo91well if you want su you have to do sudo passwd root first12:27
scizzogeneo91: why?12:27
nilsLscizzo: OK12:27
scizzogeneo91: sudo -s -H12:27
robtaylorsudo su is fine, iirc12:27
scizzogeneo91: that gives you a prompt also12:27
geneo91why i have permenet su and dont have all the bs12:27
ben0ne-H ?12:28
ben0newhat that do ?12:28
scizzoben0ne: man sudo12:28
scizzo-H  The -H (HOME) option sets the HOME environment variable12:29
ben0neohhh12:29
andrilBTW: anybody need a Gmail account? i have 50 invites12:29
ben0neok :)12:29
ben0neandril, have 6012:29
ben0ne:)12:29
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fleebailey66they went public today.12:30
fleebailey66or so i heard12:30
cefis that nvidia thing in the topic fixed?12:30
scizzonilsL: sudo dpkg -i openssh-server_3.8.1p1-11ubuntu3.1_i386.deb12:30
andrilben0ne: yep you stuck with them too huh?12:30
robtaylorscizzo: why are you manually installing debs?12:31
nilsLscizzo: Error again.12:31
garrutcef, i didn't have any problems with the nvidia drivers12:31
scizzorobtaylor: read the backlog12:31
scizzonilsL: same error?12:31
nilsLscizzo: Yeah.12:31
nilsLscizzo: I'm giving it up now. I'm going back to Gentoo.12:31
scizzonilsL: how fun!12:31
nilsLscizzo: Take care.12:32
cefgarrut: I was guessing it's fied, but you never know12:32
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ceffixed even12:32
scizzoOMG!12:32
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robtaylorscizzo: hmm i think he'd managed to hose something badly himself ;)12:34
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scizzorobtaylor: yup12:34
scizzorobtaylor: the thing is that the --configure could not do much with his /etc/ssh/12:34
scizzorobtaylor: and so on12:34
robtayloryeah, he'd probably rm -rf'd it soemtthing ;)12:35
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jnkafter upgrading, I have a "hibernate" option in the logout menu. But if I use it, when I turn the laptop back on, it just boots a normal boot, and complains that the partitions were not unmounted correctly...12:41
jnkwhy?12:41
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Loevborgjnk, have a look at the wiki.12:41
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Loevborgjnk, you need to provide a "resume=/your/swapdrive" kernel command line option12:41
FackamatoI lv ubuntu. :P12:42
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jnkthanks Loevborg12:43
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jnkhowever, the option shouldn't be here if it doesn't work... (ie. the kernel option should have been added automatically in the upgrade)12:44
Loevborgjnk, there's some transition plan for updates.12:45
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jnkok12:45
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jnkLoevborg, so it would work out of the box in a new hoary installation?12:47
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Loevborgjnk, absolutely.12:47
racingcameli have accidentally install apache 1.3 because i did not realize 2 was in a repository, how can i uninstall apache 1.3 completely?12:47
jnkcool12:48
jnkracingcamel, I guess you just purge it (sudo aptitude purge apache)12:48
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racingcameli might not have been clear, i manually installed apache 1.3(no apt) the aptitude purge command did not uninstall it12:51
racingcamelwhat else could i try?12:51
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scizzoracingcamel: manually?12:53
scizzoracingcamel: then aptitude won't find it12:53
racingcamelwell actually12:53
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racingcamelhere is the problem12:54
JesteraceLinuxJones, NS?12:54
LinuxJonesJesterace, yeah12:54
Jesteraceright me too12:54
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Jesteraceright on even12:54
LinuxJonesJesterace, no way I'm in Cape Breton12:54
JesteraceI'm in halifax12:54
DarthFrogracingcamel: If you installed manually instead of via the package manager, then you'll have to administer it manually too.12:54
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LinuxJonesJesterace, I love halifax, lived there for 12 years12:54
racingcameli installed apache on accident with the zend IDE and now whenever i goto localhost apache 1.3 is used instead of apache 2 which i already had installed.12:54
racingcamelI just want to delete it.12:55
JesteraceLinuxJones, I just moved here about a year ago12:55
DarthFrogracingcamel: So delete it.12:55
racingcamelshould i delete all of the directories that are called apache?12:55
DarthFrogracingcamel: Who knows?  You'll have to figure that out, sorry.12:56
LinuxJonesJesterace, I am looking to move back if there is a good job wating for me :)12:56
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JesteraceLinuxJones, hehe, I do crappy call center work usually but i'm on sick leave12:56
racingcamelhow can i log in as root so i dont have to do the deleting via the console?12:57
DarthFrogracingcamel: You could always use aptitude or synaptic to remove apache 2, then delete what's left, then re-install apache 2 via the package manager.12:57
DarthFrogracingcamel: Give root a password.12:57
LinuxJonesJesterace, I worked in a Call Center 1 1/2 months is all I could take it12:57
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racingcamelgiving root a pass is 'sudo -s -sH' correct?12:57
Jesteracei was there for 7 months untill an anxiety disorder struck me12:58
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DarthFrogracingcamel: sudo -s will give you a root shell. Use the passwd command in that shell.12:58
LinuxJonesJesterace, considering where you work I can relate12:58
Jesteraceyeah12:59
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LinuxJonesJesterace, funny I just tried to do some "online skills test" for a job and it told me to install Internet Explorer01:00
Jesteracehaha01:00
escozhi guys! I'm having  a little problem setting up ubuntu on a sony vaio01:00
Jesteracei tried an tutorial and it told me to install IE01:00
LevanderIs there a good html color picker desktop app?01:00
LinuxJonesJesterace, I guess I won't be considered for the position afte all :P01:00
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escozeverything is wokring fine, but there's no fan directory inside /proc/acpi/fan, as if it hadn't recognized my fan01:01
escozany suggestions?01:01
ia1spades: that seems to have done it.  thanks man!01:01
JesteraceLinuxJones, hehe not unless you install IE with wine :P01:01
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spadesnp01:01
airoxHi, I have installed quanta plus. How can I make the Qt engine (it uses that does it?) make the font sizes somewhat smaller of the interface ?01:01
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EsKHello01:02
EsKHow different is Ubuntu from Fedora Core?01:02
LinuxJonesJesterace, I haven't had a MS install disk for over 5 years and don't plan on getting one.01:02
LinuxJonesEsK, it is a bit different, have you been using linux for a while ?01:03
JesteraceI usually have a ms install, i dual boot XP and Ubuntu and have slackware on my server machine01:03
Levanderescoz: I don't even have a /proc/acpi directory on my machine01:03
Levanderescoz: fan is working fine01:03
Jesteracei haven't booted Xp except for my gf's brother in law wanted a game copied and my ubuntu wasn't quite setup yet01:03
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Jesteracei've used linux off and on since 9901:04
gillesIs it useful to install alsa-module ?01:04
arthecrowalguien en espaol01:04
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LinuxJonesJesterace, I think I am addicted to Linux01:04
DarthFrogEsK: Quite different.  Fedora Core is a version of Red Hat, thus RPM based.  Ubuntu is a version of Debian, thus DEB based.  However, linux is linux.01:04
LevanderEsK: I've never used Fedora, but from reading reviews, fedora has more supported packages in their repositories.  This sounds good, and is a benefit, but the downside is that because there's so much more software, there are more bugs in the packages that you end up using.  Ubuntu concentrates on a core set.01:04
gillesarthecrow: tienes problemas ?01:04
arthecrowsi con ubuntu en un laptop.01:05
EsKI've been using Fedora for about 3 months, and I'm getting better with it, but being my dumb-self, I messed something up and I couldn't boot up, so I decided to try something else out, and I'm thinking about something different01:05
JesteraceLinuxJones, yeah, i'm quite hooked on gnome and linux01:05
DarthFrogEsK: You'll find Ubuntu very easy to use.01:05
LevanderEsK: fedora and ubuntu are the two biggest desktop distributions, if wanna try one other than fedora, ubuntu is the way to go01:05
LinuxJonesEsK, do you understand partition(s) ?01:06
trans_errLevander: is that true?01:06
EsKOkay... I'm not used to deb-based, actually I've never used it before01:06
EsKi believe i am01:06
DarthFrogI think Levander is a wee bit optimistic. :-)01:06
trans_errLevander: I could have sworn mdk and SUSE were higher up01:06
DarthFrogNot to mention Xandros & Linspire.01:07
LinuxJonesEsK, have you tried one of the Live CD 's ?01:07
EsKNo sir01:07
airoxWhere would I change the size off the interface font of quanta plus ???01:07
Levandertrans_err: from my reading, yeah01:07
EsKyou can call me matt if you want01:07
EsKdoesnt matter01:08
LinuxJonesEsK, archive.ubuntulinux.org has some Live CD's that you can use to test Ubuntu on your system. Boots form the cd and boom your running Ubuntu (sort of in test mode)01:08
LevanderDarthFrog: as far as what people say to use it's the biggest, didn't mean by userbase01:08
DarthFrogEsK: I would say that Ubuntu is a very good choice for you.01:08
EsKokay01:08
DarthFrogLevander: This is the Ubuntu channel.  Naturally, most folks are going to recommend it! :-)01:08
jordanaui am about to try to install fluxbox, is there anything i should know before i head right into it? Is it difficult?01:09
LevanderDarthFrog: i've read several people recommend it, Ubuntu won the Ars Technica distribution of the year for 200401:09
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DarthFrogUbuntu is not a good choice for someone who wants a distro that looks just like Windows.01:09
trans_errjordanau: apt-get install fluxbox01:09
EsKi hate windows01:09
jordanaumore importantly it is completely undoable right?01:09
LinuxJonesEsK, once you've used apt-get to install/upgrade your software you will never use another distro :)01:09
DarthFrogLevander: I'm not arguing with you. :-)01:09
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trans_errjordanau: gnome and fluxbox can exist on the same machine01:09
ian__LinuxJones: as a slackware convert, I think I agree... :)01:09
LinuxJonesian__, it rocks :D01:10
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trans_errI still recomend SUSE to newbs01:10
jordanautrans_err, right then i edit the .xsession file and add exec /usr/bin/fluxbox right?01:10
DarthFrogEsK: Go to www.ubuntu.com and read the manifesto behind Ubuntu and what it stands for.01:10
LevanderRedHat and Debian are the two distributions with the widest user base in the US, Fedora and Ubuntu are basically the desktop versions of those two distributions.01:10
EsKokay01:10
trans_errjordanau: no01:10
trans_errjordanau: well you can01:10
jordanautrans_err, it will let me choose when i boot or something?01:11
EsKi would consider me a novice, i know what some stuff is and some stuff i've never ever used01:11
trans_errjordanau: at the gdm screen01:11
trans_errunder sessions01:11
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jordanaugreat! i'm gonna try01:11
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DarthFrogEsK: If you find yourself in agreement with what Ubuntu is all about, you'll have no problem with it.01:11
EsKokay01:11
netpuppyis anybody using ttmkfdir on amd64?01:12
jordanaui can just ctrl alt backspace after its done right? or should i reboot01:12
LinuxJonesEsK, Ubuntu doesn't have a graphical installer but it is quite easy to use.01:12
netpuppyit's segfaulting for me01:12
EsKyeah i read that01:12
keffooanyone got ATi radeon 9800pro01:12
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jordanauEsK, it was VERY easy for me to use and it was only my second time to install linux01:12
netpuppykeffoo: I got a 9500 Pro - why?01:12
spiderwormhi, im running hoary, updated the kernel and nvidia today, and get a black screen when starting x, tho I can hear the pretty music that plays when starting X, is this normal?01:13
keffoonetpuppy: just asking about FPS in games etc..01:13
netpuppyspiderworm: I remember seeing something about that in the topic of #gentoo-amd6401:13
netpuppyspiderworm: I thinks it's a generic Linux/NVIDIA bug01:14
EsKi'm used to anaconda installer, but i guess i'll probably understand it01:14
DarthFrogkeffoo: I have a 9800 Pro, but not on my Ubuntu system.  I have it working fine in Mandrake, though.01:14
spiderwormnetpuppy, well i am running amd64... i'll check it out thanx01:14
keffooDarthFrog: any games?01:14
netpuppyspiderworm: Maybe it's amd64 specific :)01:14
netpuppyspiderworm: could you do me a favour?01:15
LinuxJonesEsK, do you have Internet access on more than 1 computer where your at now ?01:15
spiderwormnetpuppy, it could be... your nvidia working?01:15
DarthFrogkeffoo:  UT2004, Doom 3, Quake 3, Alpha Centauri, Civ 3.01:15
spiderwormnetpuppy, perhaps... what is it?01:15
netpuppyspiderworm: I'm running hoary/amd64 too - ttmkfdir segfaults01:15
EsKyeah, my moms, but im not able to get on it01:15
spiderwormnetpuppy, want me to test it?01:15
netpuppyspiderworm: yeah :)01:15
PacoBCNhi people01:15
LinuxJonesEsK, I was going to suggest joining the irc channel on another computer and ask for help if you get stuck01:16
PacoBCNhow do you see if someone is trying to open your open ports?01:16
spadesnetstat01:16
EsKalright cool01:16
spiderwormnetpuppy, what are you passing to ttmkfdir ?01:16
netpuppyspiderworm: nothing01:16
PacoBCNFirestarter doesn't stop showing me hits01:16
spiderwormnetpuppy, ok01:16
EsKi have another computer but im gonna need another power cord and a moniter01:16
DarthFrogPacoBCN: Use an IDS (Intrustion Detection System) such as snort.01:16
DarthFrogPacoBCN: Or use netstat.01:16
netpuppyspiderworm: just use a dir with a couple of truetype fonts in it and execute it01:17
EsKwanna fedex it to me01:17
PacoBCNthe problem of netstat is that I see a lot of connection which are real due to p2p01:17
netpuppyeh duh01:17
spiderwormnetpuppy, lol i dont have ttmkfdir instaled, one min01:17
DarthFrogPacoBCN: These days, almost all IPs are constantly scanned.01:17
netpuppyspiderworm: I think I figured it out01:17
LinuxJonesEsK, if your Live CD works ok you can just re-boot using that and start the install again. I'm sure you will get along ok tho :)01:17
spiderwormnetpuppy, lol looks like i cant start synaptic01:17
spiderwormaptget it is01:17
netpuppyspiderworm: according to the man page it needs arguments01:17
DarthFrogPacoBCN: Snort will help you find out who the black hats are.01:18
spiderwormnetpuppy, i would think it does ;)01:18
PacoBCNDarthFrog, yes, I believe that, the only thing is some days it's more active than other and makes me wonder01:18
netpuppyspiderworm: that's just a different behaviour than on freebsd, netbsd, openbsd and gentoo01:18
netpuppy:)01:18
spiderwormnetpuppy, have you updated your system today?01:18
netpuppyspiderworm: yep01:18
netpuppy5 minutes ago01:18
DarthFrogPacoBCN: That's the way life is on the net. :-)01:18
spiderwormnetpuppy, you getting a "failed to copy auth file" error when starting synaptic, or anything else that asks for a password?01:19
netpuppyspiderworm: normally it just checks you cwd for truetype fonts and creates its fonts.dir file01:19
keffoohmm.. ati totally sucks in linux? why is it like this..01:19
keffoodamn ati01:19
spiderwormkeffoo, cause linux isnt ati's money maker?01:19
spiderwormyet...01:19
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netpuppyspiderworm: I don't use synaptic to be honest01:20
DarthFrogkeffoo:  I also wish I had bought an Nvidia card.01:20
spiderwormnetpuppy, ok01:20
netpuppyspiderworm: but it launches without problems01:20
ratanahi01:20
keffooyey, well. i might go throw my ati in the ocean01:20
keffooand buy me a 680001:20
spiderwormnetpuppy, ok thanx... better figure out where its trying to copy the Xauthorization file to01:20
DarthFrogkeffoo: It has resale value. :-)01:20
ratanaanyone know the ubuntu 5.04 password01:20
keffooi dont think ati will be as good as in windows in a long feature01:20
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DarthFrogratana: it doesn't have a root password.01:20
netpuppyspiderworm: maybe your gksu is borked01:20
netpuppyoh01:21
ratanai change it01:21
DarthFrogratana: Instead, root stuff is done via sudo.  You'll be asked for your password.01:21
ratanahow to chage it back?01:21
crimsunadvise people to use gksudo <program>01:21
DarthFroggksudo works. :-)01:22
netpuppyis anybody using ttmkfdir on amd64?01:22
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PacoBCNanother question, do you know guys if Firestarter handles UDP ports? I mean to open them01:24
ratanaDarthFrog I cannot use any applet that need root access.01:25
DarthFrogratana: How are you trying to access them?01:25
ratanabecuase I change root password01:25
ratanaby clicking on the menu bar01:25
EsKwhich one is the live CD01:25
EsKhoary?01:25
ratanaWhen I click it asks for password01:26
ratanaI put my new password in it does not accept01:26
EsKnvm01:26
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EsKi found the hoary hedgehog live01:26
ratanaI trie to change root password but I cannot leave it empty.01:27
ratanaDo you have any idea DarthFrog?01:27
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spadesratana: use your user pass when it asks for the pass, not the root pass01:27
LinuxJonesEsK, that would be a good choice, it is the development version but will become the stable version of Ubuntu in early April01:27
ratanaokay i will try...01:27
EsKokay01:27
ratanayee yeee yeee yeee01:28
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ratanathankssssss Spades01:28
ratanaThanksssssss01:28
EsKthanks, if i have any problems ill come back01:29
EsKwell, i need to download the ISO first01:29
LinuxJonesEsK, fire up xchat when you get it burned and let us know if it worked ok :)01:30
EsKokay no problem01:30
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ratanaAnyone know any packgate like siffit?01:34
gillesWhat do I need to do so that a user (else than root) can use shfmount ?01:34
bodhihi all, i got some problems with gnome menu. I use nautilus to add a launcher, I see the new launcher, and I reboot gnome but it doesnt appear01:35
ratanaI want to check what my kid do on line01:35
EsKlol01:36
bodhiany idea?01:36
EsKthey will find a away around it01:36
EsKits what i did ratana01:36
EsKwhen i was younger01:36
ratanaI did too01:36
EsK;)01:36
ratanahee hee01:37
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ratanado you know any program that can do the job01:37
EsKnah man, sorry01:37
gillesWhen the Ubuntu starts, it takes hours to configure the networks interfaces (i have a wifi pc card), will it be faster if i install the prism module (i used to have it on debian) ?01:38
airoxIs there a way to enable menu shadows and such things for gnome ??01:38
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Fackamatoairox: with the composite extension, yes01:39
Fackamatobut if you're using glx acceleration (opengl) at the same time things can be slow and/or very instable01:39
Fackamatounstable*01:39
airoxhmm01:39
airoxI am not using glx accelaration.01:40
Fackamatoand you need to use xorg01:40
airoxI have xorg (using hoary)/01:40
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Fackamatothen search in the forums for composite01:41
EsKdoes ubuntu come with MP3 support01:41
Fackamatoand you'll find what to add in your xorg.conf01:41
keffooEsK: yey01:41
gilleswhy do i have the message : "shfsmount: Operation not permitted" when using it in user mode, how to give the permission to a user ?01:41
FackamatoEsK: of course01:41
airoxtnx Fackamato01:42
Fackamatonp airox01:42
EsKwhat about like, wmv and mpeg and stuff like that01:42
keffoouse VLC or summit. its no problems01:42
EsKokay01:42
EsKcuz its a bitch to build xine01:43
EsKwell01:43
EsKto me01:43
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LinuxJonesgilles, you have to add that command to the /etc/sudoers01:43
LinuxJonesgilles, for the users's account name01:43
LinuxJonesgilles, man sudo for more info01:43
Fackamatowhy do you build xine, EsK01:44
Fackamatojust apt-ge tit01:44
Fackamatoapt-get it*01:44
Fackamatolook in the forums for howto's01:44
Fackamatoit's really simple01:44
Fackamatoeverything just works :>01:44
EsKwell i was in fedora01:44
EsKand there wasnt any built RPMs for it01:45
EsKor like01:45
gillesLinuxJones: it works with sudo, but if i do so, then the mounted directory is not accessible by the user, that's my problem01:45
EsKyeah01:45
LinuxJonesgilles, what kind of directory is it ?01:45
LinuxJonesgilles, is it on a ntfs or fat partition ?01:45
keffoogilles: u r from oz right?01:46
keffooaussie-man01:46
racingcameli have been attempting to manually remove the apache 1.3 server from my machine and have successfullt removed nearly every file except for the icons and am wonder why when i goto localhost in my browser it still comes up as apache but without the fancy page, just an error. How can i get this demon of an apache web server off my machine?01:47
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gilleskeffoo: no, france01:47
keffoooh ok01:47
gillesLinuxJones: it's a directory created on my desktop in user mode, i want to mount my server with shfmount, it works in root mode, but i want the mounted directory to be accessible by the current user01:48
LinuxJonesracingcamel, apache is probably still loaded in memory, /etc/init.d/(service) stop01:48
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racingcamelwhat somman do i type?01:49
racingcamelcommand*01:49
EsKalright, so i just got finished downloading the live CD for ubuntu, so do i just burn the ISO and boot and its ubuntu, without all doing all the installation shyt?01:50
racingcamelapache is not a service in init.d01:51
LinuxJonesracingcamel, /etc/init.d/apache(tab) stop01:51
zone17Hi :-) I just got my hand on a used laptop, but it doesn't come with cdrom. So I was thinking about installing ubuntu on it via pxeboot, does anyone has any experience doing that?01:51
LinuxJonesracingcamel, must have gotten removed01:51
airoxEsK: yep.01:51
LinuxJonesracingcamel, sudo killall apache01:51
EsKokay01:52
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racingcamelstill getting the same error, i have restarted but should i do it again?01:52
racingcamel(error is that it still shows apache running)01:53
racingcamelwhen i goto localhost in firefox01:53
LinuxJonesracingcamel, best to use "apt-get --purge remove app" to get rid of stuff you no longer want installed01:53
hou5tonhow do I set the properties for what program opens certain file types?01:53
racingcamelyeah01:54
racingcameli know01:54
racingcameli have severly effed up01:54
LinuxJonesracingcamel, what command are you passing to firefox ?01:54
Jesteracehou5ton, you using warty or hoary?01:54
ian__is there a package for gtk-sharp?01:54
gillesIt takes more than one minute to hoary to configure the network interfaces at the boot, why ?01:54
LinuxJonesracingcamel, what port I guess I am asking01:54
racingcamelport 8001:54
racingcameli am simply typing localhost into the searchbar and it comes up with an apache dir not found message01:55
hou5tonJesterace:   hmmm ... i really hate having to show just how stupid I am ... but.... how do I tell which one?01:55
LinuxJonesracingcamel, do top and see if you can see any apache related processes running01:55
LinuxJonesracingcamel, try clearing your browser cache01:56
Jesteracehou5ton, good question... in the top left do you have applications, places , and System?01:56
Jesteraceor is there just two01:56
racingcamellinuxjones: i do not see any apache related processes running01:56
hou5tonJesterace:   I have Applications and Computer01:57
LinuxJonesracingcamel, ^^01:57
geneo91pidof apache01:57
Jesteracehou5ton, then it'd be warty01:57
Jesteracecheck under computer for system01:57
Jesteracethen look for preferred application01:57
Jesteracei think that might be there i'm not too sure since i'm using hoary01:57
racingcamellinuxjones: all browser files cleared, same error (THe requested URL / was not found on this server)01:58
hou5tonJesterace:   ya .. i had looked at that before ... but it only lets me choose for browser, email, text editor and terminal01:58
LinuxJonesracingcamel, re-install apache then apt-get --purge remove apache01:59
hou5tonJesterace:   here's what's happening ... I have RealPlayer 10 installed and it works, but when I click on a RealPlayer link in a web page, it opens Totem, which can't play it anyway01:59
LinuxJonesracingcamel, other than that I don't know what to tell you :P01:59
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Jesteracehou5ton, i'm not too sure02:03
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hou5tonhmmm ... how difficult would it be for  me to upgrade to hoary?02:04
hou5tonJesterace:   or should I wait?02:04
gillesis it possible to enable CONFIG_FB_RADEON and CONFIG_FB_RADEON_I2C in the kernel (or is it already unabled by default with hoary?) ?02:04
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LinuxJoneshou5ton, in FF under Preferences>>Download you can set file associations02:04
mjrgilles, at least on my Hoary/amd64 kernel CONFIG_FB_RADEON is compiled as a module02:05
geneo91very simple hou5ton just change repositories to hoary in synaptic02:05
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mjrgilles, you can get kernel package configs from /boot02:05
EsKhey LinuxJones02:05
LinuxJonesEsK, you running Ubuntu ?02:05
EsKit went through perfectly02:05
EsKyes02:05
EsKthe live02:05
LinuxJonesEsK, sweet02:06
gillesmjr: from /boot ? in synaptics ?02:06
EsKi like the brown02:06
LinuxJonesEsK, you should have no problems with the install then02:06
mjrgilles, from the file system02:06
EsKok02:06
gillesmjr: can i compile it with assistant-module ?02:06
mjrI have no idea what you're talking abou tnow02:07
mjrah, module-assistant02:07
gillessorry, with the command module-assistant02:07
gillesyes02:07
hou5tonLinuxJones:   I went there, but don't see a way to set the preferences for the .rm files02:07
LinuxJonesEsK, it would be nice if you could run the installer from the Live CD and ask for help (if you need it) but sadly you can't do that yet :(02:07
mjrno no, it comes standard, as a module, in the linux-image package02:07
LinuxJoneshou5ton, you can add a new one02:07
EsKif its anything like the live setup, then i wont have problems02:08
gillesmjr: so what should i do ?02:08
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gillesmjr: i have the new hoary02:08
LinuxJoneshou5ton, yikes02:08
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mjrgilles, I don't know what you're trying to accomplish02:09
mjryou just asked if the FB_RADEON thing was enabled, I said that it is, as a module02:09
gillesmjr: i'm trying to have the boot screen in 1280x80002:09
mjrand told you that the info can be found in /boot (spesifically, /boot/config-[version] 02:09
hou5tonLinuxJones:   I have version 1, but it doesn't seem to have a way for me to do that ... or one that I see.?02:09
EsKif its anythign like the setup, then i wont have a problem installing the actual version02:10
mjrAh. Well, for that, you might have to roll it in the kernel. I don't know spesifics about that.02:10
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mjr(having fancy boot screen resolutions; of course, compiling it into the kernel is relatively straightforward)02:10
EsKoops i said that twice02:10
LinuxJoneshou5ton, you might be able to change the Gnome association then hopefully FF will open with Real Player02:10
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LinuxJoneshou5ton, right click a .ra file then Open with Other App02:11
EsKi have a question about the live CD LinuxJones02:11
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LinuxJoneshou5ton, in Gnome not FF02:12
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LinuxJonesEsK, go02:12
gillesmjr: so a novice like me can't do that with assisant-module for example ?02:12
gillesmodule-assistant02:12
mjrgilles, that's not the right tool for the job; kernel-package is02:12
EsKis it supposed to lag a little, it never lags when i had fedora, if it is, is it just because its getting it from the CD02:12
mjrgilles, but I wouldn't recommend it for a self-described novice02:12
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hou5tonLinuxJones:   when I right click, to open in another app is not an option02:12
LinuxJonesEsK, yeah live cd is rather slow because it is running from the cd. There will be a huge difference when it is running from the hard drive02:13
tyler_Hola a todos. Why can't I play mp3s!?02:13
hou5tonLinuxJones:   also, we can't figure out how to change the file preferences in Gnome .... for days???02:13
mjrtyler_, http://ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats02:13
hou5tonLinuxJones:   at least, not for those types of files02:13
LinuxJoneshou5ton, your on Warty ?02:13
EsKokay good, i thought there was something wrong02:13
hou5tonyes02:13
hou5tonwant me to upgrade?02:13
EsKme having a 2.5 gig proccessor and 768 megs of RAM, it shouldnt lag02:13
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LinuxJoneshou5ton, you downloaded a .ra file to say your desktop and right clicked ?02:14
EsKbut since you said it was cuz of the CD then its all good02:14
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LinuxJonesEsK, that will run Ubuntu just fine02:14
EsKokay good02:14
LinuxJonesEsK, it will be snappier than Fedora :)02:14
icebalmhrmm, ubuntu setup b0rked on loading lilo02:14
bwlangtyler_: are you seriously asking that question?02:15
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hou5tonLinuxJones:   when I right click ... it is also not an option to download that file to my desktop02:15
EsKlol, sweet02:15
tyler_thanks mjr02:15
hou5tonLinuxJones:   the only thing it wants to do is load in Totem02:15
simplebirddoes ubuntu work for ppc64? anyone?02:15
icebalmwhy does it load so much crap by default02:15
hou5tonLinuxJones:   so .. i copied the web address by hand and manually put it in RealPlayer, to make sure RP was working02:15
farruinnsimplebird: it should, I believe you select power4(?)02:15
LinuxJoneshou5ton, mmm I have been running Hoary for several months and can't remember.02:15
simplebirdfarruinn: does it has full  support for all hardware?02:16
LinuxJoneshou5ton, I am sure you can do it but I can't recall sorry :(02:16
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simplebirdfarruinn: i'm using power mac g502:16
hou5tonLinuxJones:   Here's the specific link i'm talking about ... scroll to the bottom of the page and it's the Wendell Barry interview ... http://www.sojo.net/02:16
farruinnsimplebird: the only thing I'm sure of is it doesn't support airport extreme02:16
farruinnsimplebird: I *think* you should be fine02:16
farruinnsimplebird: there is a hardware support page on the website02:16
simplebirdfarruinn: what about the sound card and video acceleration?02:17
EsKman this time is being ignorant, i change the time but the AM stays the same >:O, but its not a big deal cuz i barely look at the time02:17
farruinnsimplebird: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HardwareSupport02:17
mjrsimplebird, basically, 3d only if it's an older radeon, since both ati and nvidia are being rather unnice about programming specs nowadays02:17
mjr(older <= 9250)02:18
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LinuxJoneshou5ton, try creating a dummy file on your desktop called test.rm then try right clicking on it and see if you get an option to "Open With"02:19
hou5tonLinuxJones:   ya ... that works ... when it's on my desktop or in some dir02:20
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LinuxJoneshou5ton, ok point it to the real player binary and hopefully it will launch from FF02:20
hou5tonLinuxJones:   oh ... you mean ... like, "training" it what to do?02:21
LinuxJoneshou5ton, yeah02:21
EsKis there anyway to change the screen resolution02:21
LinuxJoneshou5ton, your setting a file/mime association02:22
LinuxJonesEsK, that's a known bug in the Live CD02:22
hou5tonalso ... I have backports opened up according to some doc I found on the web ... cuz I wanted a newer version of some apps, .... do I need to undo all that before setting Synaptic to hoary?02:22
EsKoh02:22
macewanif anyone is interested, engage via apt-get works just fine. engage is the osx zoom panel thingy - enlightenment. this is on hoary box.02:22
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LinuxJoneshou5ton, that may cause problems if you upgrade02:22
EsKits no biggie either, so is the default resolution, 1024x768?02:23
LinuxJoneshou5ton, do you have many apps from the backports repo ?02:23
LinuxJonesEsK, you can change it once installed02:23
hou5tonhmm... well ... i don't think so ... but didn't keep track02:23
EsKalrighty02:23
hou5tonLinuxJones:   does that mean like a whole new install now ... or ???02:23
farruinnwoot: iTunes library in Rhythmbox!02:23
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LinuxJoneshou5ton, maybe not depending on what you installed02:24
hou5tonxchat is one02:24
farruinnhou5ton: you need to delete your backports line if you're upgrading - there is no backports for hoary [yet] 02:25
hou5tonLinuxJones:   you mean ... if I put Synaptic back to the way it was, an upgrade to Hoary could still be problematic since I've already upgraded some apps?02:25
EsKLinuxJones: now all i need to do is learn how to use apt-get, if i want to like use apt-get to get xine, do i just put in "apt-get xine" (without the quotes)02:25
farruinnhou5ton: that too02:25
hou5tonfarruinn:   ok ...02:25
farruinnEsK: sudo apt-get install [package] 02:25
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tyler_Anyone have a clue why realplayer and Mplayer wont load? they seemed to install fine. I run the shortcut and nothing happens02:26
hou5tonhmmm .... so .... what would you gentlemen suggest I do?02:26
farruinnEsK: use apt-cache (no sudo required) to find the package name02:26
EsKnow what does sudo mean02:26
jimcooncatnoob2ubuntu: downloaded djbdns-installer, end up with /usr/src/djbdns-installer/debian.tar.gz . What do I do at this point to install, smartest way for the distro?02:26
LinuxJoneshou5ton, well the programs that are installed could be the problem but worse case scenario you will have to do a fresh install.02:27
LinuxJonesEsK, let me get you a good tutorial02:27
EsKokay02:27
EsKthank you02:27
hou5tonLinuxJones:   in other words ... "note to self"   backporting is not always the wisest thing to do.??02:27
farruinnhou5ton: it depends on how you do your versioning02:28
farruinnI don't know much about it though02:28
farruinnI backported some stuff for myself, but when I went to hoary I used the preview CD to test something02:29
hou5tonfarruinn:   I'm assuming Hoary has all the latest versions of apps02:29
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LinuxJonesEsK, www.ubuntuguide.org is a great place to start with Ubuntu...see the section >> How to apt-get the easy way (Synaptic)?02:29
farruinnhou5ton: as new as you're going to get for Ubuntu02:29
dragonbytehey, i am getting mozilla xml chrome errors after a mozilla upgrade, is there a simple fix for this?02:29
LinuxJoneshou5ton, they are great in theory, you probably will be ok with the upgrade :)02:30
hou5ton well..... let's take XChat for example ... which I upgraded with backports ...if it doesn't work, can't I just uninstall it and install it again?02:30
EsKokay02:30
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mjrhou5ton, yeah02:31
hou5tonbut I guess I should shut everything else down while I'm upgrading????02:31
EsKim bookmarking that because that will come in handy02:32
LinuxJonesEsK, write it down your bookmarks won't be saved when you re-boot :)02:32
mjrhou5ton, well, if you're logged into gnome, it might do some non-lethally-weird things if you upgrade at the same time, but nothing a logout wouldn't fix... :)02:33
EsKgood idea02:33
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jimcooncatwhere can I find a debian howto on manually installing a *-installer package I got through Synaptic?02:34
hou5tonmjr:   well ... in that case ... sounds like it will have to wait .... unless it doesn't take very long ...  How long does it take?02:34
Fackamatojimcooncat: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb02:35
jimcooncatthanks Fackamato!02:36
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EsKLinuxJones: if i update using synaptic package manager, will it be useless cuz all of it resets as i reboot02:36
mjrhou5ton, mmh, don't remember exactly, not very long02:36
hou5tonmjr:   cool ... think I'll give it a try02:37
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Yomic:o, there's an OP in this channel :o?02:37
LinuxJonesEsK, yeah02:37
EsKokay02:38
EsKcould i just use synaptic instead of apt-get02:38
DarthFrogEsK: Always.02:39
EsKokay then, i dont need to learn that02:39
EsK:p02:39
LinuxJonesEsK, sure but it's good to know how to do it from a command line if something bad happens like using the backports repository :)02:39
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EsKalrighty02:40
EsKwill do02:40
Mark^hi02:40
LinuxJoneshi Mark^02:40
Mark^i'm having some problems installing...for some reason, during the installation, my keyboard completely stops functioning02:40
LinuxJonesMark^, is it a usb keyboard ?02:41
Mark^i can hit enter for boot at the start of the install, but when i try to select my language, it locks up02:41
Mark^i was using a usb keyboard02:41
Mark^but i tried a ps/2 one too02:41
Mark^both are having this error02:41
LinuxJonesMark^, so it just hangs ?02:41
Mark^yeah more or less02:42
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Mark^the keyboard stops functioning and thats all thats wrong as far as i can tell02:42
jon1012hi everybody :)02:42
Mark^and i just cant get either keyboard to work02:42
EsKohhhhh, this is an important question, does ubuntu come with a java virtual machine02:42
Mark^i can access everything in the help inex and hit enter for boot fine but i cant chooe my language02:42
Mark^choose*02:42
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crimsunEsK: There's Kaffe, but you're probably thinking of Sun's or IBM's (possibly Blackdown's). See http://wiki.ubuntulinux.org/RestrictedFormats02:43
EsKokay, yeah i was thinking of Sun's02:43
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Mark^anyone have any ideas for me?02:43
LinuxJonesMark^, one of the terminals spits out any errors on it's output02:44
Mark^huh?02:44
LinuxJonesMark^, I think it's ctrl+alt+F202:44
Mark^when would i access that?02:45
farruinnwhen you're having a problem =)02:45
Mark^but i cant even get it installed, will it work during the installation?02:45
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farruinnand I think it's actually F3, I think F2 will say "press enter to execute a shell" or somesuch02:45
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farruinnit's only during the installation02:45
Mark^okay02:45
Mark^can i do it before i hit enter for boot?  once i go past that it instantly freezes my keyboard02:46
farruinnonce everything is installed F1-6 are login terminals02:46
LinuxJonesMark^, it might let you switch it might just be hung up on some part of the installer like a bad sector on the cd your using02:46
Q-FUNKanybody who can tell me how to disable gnome's own keyboard remapper in Hoary? (what used to be called gswitchit)02:46
LinuxJonesMark^, although it should pop up with an error on screen02:46
BROKEN_LADDERdoes anyone know anything about getting gstreamer apps to work in hoary?02:46
Mark^it has no errors on screen02:46
dragonbyteanyone having problems getting system>administration things to work? all of them fail on wrong password always02:46
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Mark^its just all keys are nonfunctional, even the *locks02:47
LinuxJonesMark^, have you searched the ubuntu forums ?02:47
farruinnQ-FUNK: browse around in the Configuration Editor02:47
HrdwrBoBdragonbyte: are you putting in your passwodrd02:47
HrdwrBoBpassword02:47
Mark^no i havnt, ill give that a shot02:47
Mark^i just thought id try here first02:47
BROKEN_LADDERevery time i try to play something in rhythmbox, it says "could not open resource for writing" then "could not pause playback"02:47
BROKEN_LADDER:(02:47
LinuxJonesMark^, GL wish I could help :)02:47
Mark^thanks02:47
farruinnBROKEN_LADDER: sounds more like a disc issue...02:47
farruinnthe first error anyway02:48
BROKEN_LADDERdisc?02:48
dragonbyteHrdwrBoB: gksu <something> works gksudo <something> says GNOME_SUDO_PASS sudo: 1 inccorect password (when run from a term)02:48
BROKEN_LADDERwhat do you mean by "disc"?02:48
farruinndisk, as in where the music files are02:48
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BROKEN_LADDERmy hard drive works fine.  xmms plays fine.02:48
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BROKEN_LADDERrhythmbox used to work before hoary.02:48
BROKEN_LADDERnow no apps that rely on gstreamer work.02:48
dragonbytehrm actually looks like sudo is broke02:48
danielsgstreamer works fine for me02:49
dragonbytehrm02:49
danielsBROKEN_LADDER: sounds like you removed esd02:49
BROKEN_LADDEResd?02:49
danielsyes02:49
danielsesound02:49
dragonbyteer wait02:49
danielsgiven that gstreamer is set up to use it by default02:49
Poyayanis there somewhere we can go for a feature request?02:50
BROKEN_LADDERhow do i get that back?02:50
EsKalright LinuxJones, what will i have to do get a decoder to handle a .mpg stream02:50
danielsBROKEN_LADDER: apt-get install esound, I think02:50
danielsBROKEN_LADDER: and then make sure that esd is running02:50
BROKEN_LADDEResound is already the newest version02:50
EsKand im not gonna lie to ya, i need my porn sometimes02:50
BROKEN_LADDERi need my gf sometimes.02:50
Q-FUNKfarruinn: I don't find any option to just disable the whole gswitchit02:50
Poyayanis esound better than alsa?02:50
EsKme too02:50
danielsPoyayan: different things02:50
BROKEN_LADDERbetter than?02:51
BROKEN_LADDERi donn't think that makes sense.02:51
LinuxJonesEsK,  it's easy to do once you get installed it's on www.ubuntuguide.org02:51
BROKEN_LADDERwhat is esd called in ps?02:51
danielsBROKEN_LADDER: 'esd'02:51
EsKoh okay, thanks02:51
BROKEN_LADDERno.  it's not running.02:51
Mark^maybe this is the problem02:51
BROKEN_LADDERdid i mess up something in my rc2.d?02:51
farruinnBROKEN_LADDER: then run it: esd &02:51
Mark^Radeon 9800 original isnt on the supported hardware list, only pro02:51
BROKEN_LADDERyay!02:52
farruinnBROKEN_LADDER: check your "Multimedia System Selector" settings maybe02:52
HrdwrBoBdragonbyte: because gksu uses the root password and gksudo uses YOUR password02:52
BROKEN_LADDERafter over a month of no one being able to fix my rhythmbox you geniuses fixed my shit up yo.02:52
dragonbyteHrdwrBoB: yeah, just noticed my /etc/sudoers was blank02:52
BROKEN_LADDERnow..will esd be running again automatically if i shutdown and back up?02:52
danielsprobably not02:52
HrdwrBoBoh, well that will do it02:52
dragonbyteHrdwrBoB: i usually just use gksu not gksudo, apparently gnome 2.10 uses gksudo02:52
BROKEN_LADDERso how do am i supposed to do that?02:52
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farruinnBROKEN_LADDER: esd is started by the gnome xsession, it may be disabled for some reason02:52
HrdwrBoBdragonbyte: ubuntu has always used sudo02:52
dragonbyteHrdwrBoB: godforsaken uneditable menu crap02:52
trans_errBROKEN_LADDER: esd is started by gnome02:53
danielsBROKEN_LADDER: it's cunningly hidden in system -> preferences -> sound02:53
BROKEN_LADDERgui?  ack.02:53
HrdwrBoBdragonbyte: there is a python menu editor floating around on the forums02:53
farruinndaniels: :)02:53
dragonbyteHrdwrBoB: ahh ok ubuntu thing...i went from sid->ubuntu for xorg02:53
EsKand i think this would be my last question, and if its true then i'll go download the cds for the actual program, instead of the live02:53
dragonbyteHrdwrBoB: denu...tried it a bit, wasnt really fond of it02:53
BROKEN_LADDERenable sound server startup?02:53
BROKEN_LADDERohhh02:53
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HrdwrBoBdragonbyte: ah, yes that would explain it, ubuntu doesn't set a root password by default02:53
EsKis the debian packages(idk what they're called) like the rpm?02:53
trans_errEsK: yes they are quite similiar02:54
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HrdwrBoBEsK: .deb .. and it's the same sort of thing02:54
farruinnEsK: somewhat, I like the dpkg system better though02:54
EsKokay02:54
trans_errEsK: that doesnt mean you can mix and match though02:54
LinuxJonesEsK, go get the install cd :)02:54
EsKi was gonna02:55
Mark^maybe it's a cd error, i'm just going to try a second cd i have before getting worried02:55
HrdwrBoBtrans_err: it does if you want a system that isn't a giant mess02:55
Mark^brb02:55
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EsKthen i think im ready for the actual OS, cuz i think i can learn on the guide n stuff02:55
Poyayanis there anyway to add colors to human??? you know like the clear-looks theme has three colors02:55
Poyayanlike an earthgreen and an ocean blue or something02:55
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hou5tonI have about a dozen line options in sources.list ... can someone tell me what it should look like if I want to try an upgrade to Hoary?02:56
HrdwrBoBhou5ton: change 'warty' to 'hoary'02:57
farruinnhou5ton: and get rid of the backports line02:57
hou5tonah02:57
farruinnand warty-updates too if you have it02:57
hou5tonso ... in all those lines, ... just change the actual name02:57
hou5tonok02:57
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hou5tonwhat about these three lines:03:00
hou5tondeb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ stable main03:00
hou5tondeb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main03:00
hou5tondeb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ testing main03:00
farruinnyou just need the unstable I think03:00
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farruinnthat's what wiki/RestrictedFormats says anyway03:00
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danielsargh, sorry, just clearing up bans.03:01
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mike_douglasubuntu developers: where can i get some more information about using Ubuntu with kickstart?03:03
EsKso warty warthog is the latest version03:03
DarthFrogmike_douglas: This isn't the developers channel.03:03
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mike_douglasDarthFrog: there is a developer channel?03:04
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DarthFrogmike_douglas: Try #ubuntu-devel03:05
mike_douglasthanks03:05
DarthFrognp03:05
kensaiat boot I get filesystem is NOT clean... why?03:05
DarthFrogkensai: Cuz you didn't shut it down properly.03:06
kensaiDarthFrog, LOL I'm shutting down right and I'm still getting the error03:06
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farruinndoes it say filesystem not clean or that it's checking?03:07
EsKwhich filesystem do yall prefer03:08
YomicWhat language should I learn first if I wish to become a game developer (programmer) in the future?03:08
EsKext3?03:08
kensaifarruinn, filesystem is NOT clean03:08
DarthFrogEsK: It doesn't really matter.  Ext3 is fine.03:08
EsKokay03:08
mike998I guess I shoulda asked here first03:08
kensaireiserFS03:08
EsKwhich one is best tho?, is there even one?03:08
mike998does anyone know how to make the gdesklets launcher desklete always on top?03:08
farruinnkensai: you're using reiserFS? Isn't that somewhat unstable?03:09
DarthFrogEsK: It depends upon your purposes.   both reiserfs and ext3 are good general purpose file systems.03:09
farruinnkensai: that may be why you're having the problem03:09
EsKokay cool03:09
DarthFrogEsK:  If you were routinely dealing with monstrous A/V files, XFS is specialised for that.03:10
EsKwhat are a/v files?03:10
kensaifarruinn, nah I have used reiserfs since it was used in most disros a while ago and have sued reiser4 and haven't had that problme before not even in ubuntu warty03:10
EsK<---sorta newbie03:10
DarthFrogaudio/visual.  Basically editing movies.03:11
EsKohhhhh03:11
EsKi got ya03:11
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DarthFrogGeorge Lucas & Peter Jackson would benefit from XFS.  :-)03:12
farruinnPeter jackson very well may have03:12
zenroxgeorge lucas too03:13
LinuxJonesILM is full of Linux and SGI03:13
zenroxor lucas enterprizes03:13
jsgotangcogood day03:13
njanIf it's linux on SGI equipment, I'm guessing they're probably using XFS, yeah ;)03:14
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DarthFrogchillywilly: Just for grins, check out how much system resources are being consumed by XFS. :-)03:15
EsKi ordered a CD from ubuntu... how long does it usually take to get here03:16
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njanDarthFrog, 0 CPU and 0 memory for me03:16
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DarthFrogEsK: Probably a couple of months now.03:16
farruinnEsK: at least a month, hoary isn't even "out" yet03:16
lamontEsK: when  did you order it03:16
lamont?03:16
EsKuh03:16
EsKlike03:16
EsK10 min ago03:16
chillywillyDarthFrog: doesn't seem to make any difference to me03:16
njanEsK, it'll be at least a month.03:16
lamontso it'll arrive in late april/early may03:17
EsKoh nevermind03:17
EsKshit03:17
DarthFrogEsK: Where are you?03:17
EsKtexas03:17
lamontEsK: all orders currently are being taken for hoary CD's.03:17
chillywillyCPU is fluctating between 2% and 8%03:17
chillywillymemory is at 18.6%03:17
lamontand hoary ships in early april.03:17
njan<3 xfs03:17
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chillywilly164.7BM of 885.4MB (should be 1GB), 2.7MB swap03:18
icebalmman, I dunno why the ubuntu install made me install lilo, grub works just fine03:18
EsKwell, ill have 5 to give out to the nigg that lives close to me03:18
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chillywillyxfsdatad and xfslogd are barely doing anything03:18
farruinnicebalm: how in the world did you get lilo? I didn't even think it was on the cd...03:19
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icebalmfarruinn: xfs root partition, installer said grub wouldn't work so it made me install lilo03:19
geneo93farruinn:  i have lilo also03:19
icebalmfarruinn: after the install I installed grub myself and it worked perfectly03:20
chillywillyDarthFrog: where is the resouce hogging?03:20
chillywilly:)03:20
DarthFrogchillywilly: I didn't say there was.03:20
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geneo93farruinn:  it is in the installer menu03:20
DarthFrogchillywilly: I was just asking.03:20
farruinnah, ok03:20
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chillywillyDarthFrog: I thought that's what you were implying, my bad03:21
farruinnand I certainly didn't use XFS =)03:21
DarthFrogchillywilly: I've never used XFS.03:21
GuBAonManizaleshi mako ... is me GuBA ...03:21
geneo93farruinn:  i think only reiserfs4 you need lilo03:21
icebalmfarruinn: nothing wrong with xfs03:21
EsKholy shit, im downloadin the ISO at 500 kb/s03:22
chillywillyI think it is a decent file system that performs rather well03:22
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farruinnicebalm: until tonight I didn't even know of xfs =)03:23
chillywillyhmmm, wonder why I don't appear to have highmem support03:23
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chillywillyhmm, this kernel is lacking it I think03:24
lamontchillywilly: which kernel do you have?03:24
chillywillyLinux frodo 2.6.10-4-386 #1 Thu Mar 10 03:25:00 GMT 2005 i686 GNU/Linux03:24
lamontthat'd be the base one... no himem03:25
EsKso theres just one CD for ubuntu?03:25
LinuxJoneschillywilly, you got i38603:25
lamontwhat kind of processor do you have?03:25
lamontEsK: yes.03:25
chillywillyyea03:25
lamontEsK: one live, one install03:25
chillywillyneed to grab 68603:25
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lamontthe rest is on the net03:25
LinuxJoneschillywilly, you need 686 or K7 for xttra memory goodies03:25
EsKso do we just download the packages from apt-get or  does it come with it03:25
lamontapt-get install linux-image-68603:25
lamontEsK: yep.  apt-get/aptitude/synaptic/etc03:26
chillywillysudo apt-get install linux-image-68603:26
EsKokay03:26
chillywilly:)03:26
EsKthanks03:26
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chillywillytime to reboot :)03:26
icebalmman, kernel-image and linux-image... gah03:27
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chillywillyback03:30
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chillywillylalallaal03:33
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jon1012chillywilly: lol03:33
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kensaiI have asked this alot and nobody has answered does gnome 2.10 has composite features such and translucency built in or I need xcompmgr?03:35
alissonQuest-Master, hello...plz, do you know how to change the PATH in ubuntu?03:35
jsgotangcowhoa need to update again in hoary03:35
icebalmuhm, why does linux-k7 want to install nvidia-glx?03:36
icebalmgrr, I don't have an nvidia card03:36
LinuxJonesnight everybody03:36
Anubisicebalm, its a metapackage03:36
Anubisread the notes in synaptic03:36
rifficits being nice icebalm it wants to buy you one03:36
icebalmrofl03:36
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EsKdoes anyone wanna donate me like 10 dollars, because i need 10 more dollars to buy an 40 gig ipod03:36
alissonkensai, is the X supporintg translucency without bugs int Hoary?03:37
awb4422hey what is the name of the net applet thing in warty that is not in hoary by default?03:37
kensaialisson, well X is supporting translucency without bugs for some time now03:37
geneo93EsK:  if you have that much then get a 20 and give me the rest03:37
EsKlmao03:37
danielskensai: if you don't consider 'unusably slow' a bug03:37
kensaialisson, since release 6.8.0 of X.org03:38
EsKyour funny03:38
kensaidaniels, I have nvidia03:38
alissonkensai, when i installed the X 6.8.0, and I enabled the translucency, it crashed after some time03:38
njans/your/you're/03:38
EsKi plan on backing up my whole comp on here, so when i have to re-load, ill just put it on that03:38
EsKand plus for music03:38
geneo93good luck03:39
kensaidaniels, I get the same FPS with xfce 4.2 with the transparencies and translucencys enable as without it03:39
alissonkensai, but my video card is not very good, then because that i don't know if it was my video os bug03:39
EsKwhats so bad03:39
alissonkensai, *or03:39
kensaialisson, it depends on video card03:39
kensaiIt was running smoothly in my gentoo box03:39
kensaiwith xfce 4.203:40
tyler_Heya, anyone know where the open office icons are stored?03:40
alissonkensai, uau, it should be nice......how much fps do you get?03:40
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kensaialisson, about 2,200 fps in glxgears I have an old geforce 3 ti20003:41
kensai64mb03:41
FackamatoI have a geforce3 ti200 too03:41
Anubisbe luck you dont have a Geforce MX 44003:42
alissonkensai, uau, heheheh.........I get only 400 fps :( . My video card is a ATI Mobile. It don't have a AGP card03:42
AnubisI get 500fps with my card03:42
kensaiAnubis, I have it integrated in the motherboard but I use the geforce 3 not the 4 mx 400 I have in the mobo03:42
Anubisin 24bp mode03:42
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geneo93Anubis:  i have and i get 125003:43
Anubisthe 7167 driver helped the card out alot03:43
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speelhey i have a geforce 4 mx 44003:43
alissonAnubis, have you tried a translucency mode already?03:43
kensaialisson, Thats it ati doesn't support Linux well and neither translucencys03:43
Anubisgeneo93, what color depth and resolution?03:43
Anubisalisson, yes, its very pretty03:43
tyler_Hey Lords o' the channel, BROKEN_LADDER wonders why he's been devoiced?03:44
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geneo9324 bit 1024x76803:44
Anubisdamn03:44
alissonkensai, yeah, i know. But we don't have much choice when you are buying a laptop03:44
Anubisthats what I run03:44
Anubisdunno why it runs so slow!03:44
alissonAnubis, but it don't lag?03:44
Anubisno03:44
kensaialisson, it's true03:44
geneo93somethings wrong then03:44
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Anubisgeneo93, but everything looks right03:45
streetbmxhello03:45
geneo93did you turn on glx03:45
alissonkensai, a little help plz, do you know how to change the variable PATH in debian?03:45
Anubisgeneo93, which module are you loading nvidia or agpart?03:45
tyler_Ubuntites, our brotheren BROKEN_LADDER cant voice, or has been devoiced. What ever this means. Please revoice him (or her for that matter)03:45
Anubisgeneo93, I could not run glxgears without it03:45
kensaialisson, variable PATH? what you are doing?03:46
chillywillythis isn't a moderated channel03:46
zulalisson: type expor PATH="$PATH:<additional directories>03:46
tyler_Is this a purely male channel? ANy ladies about? Do girls bother with linux?03:46
zulalisson: type expor PATH="$PATH:<additional directories>"03:46
tyler_Not trying to get into some kind of cyber here or anything, just wondering03:46
alissonkensai, zul, i instaled the IDE Eclipse, but the PATH export only in bash03:46
kensaialisson, ohh>>> follow zul comment03:46
streetbmxhas anyone used reiser4 with ubuntu?03:47
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alissonzul, I tried it already, but when you restart the computer, we lost it, don't we?03:47
awb4422hey what is the name of the wireless monitor applet that is in warty by default, but that doesn't seem to be in hoary preview?03:48
alissonkensai, how much fps can you get with a good video card?03:48
alissonkensai, just to me take an idea03:48
geneo938104 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1620.800 FPS i lied03:48
Anubisgeneo93, which driver version?03:49
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Anubisgeneo93, cat /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/card03:49
Anubisgeneo93, cat /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/status03:49
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alissonzul: did you do this, and it worked for all the time?03:51
alissonzul: in changing the PATH?03:51
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YomicWhat language should I learn first if I wish to become a game developer (programmer) in the future?03:53
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alissonkensai, there are differences between gtk2.4 and gtk2.6?03:54
geneo91sorry got cut off03:55
streetbmxYomic: C/C++03:55
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voxvirushello03:56
streetbmxhi03:56
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zulalisson: yes it works all the time you have to put it in your .bashrc file to make it permanent03:57
voxviruscould someone please help me installing plone?03:57
kensaialisson, I've seen people with 10k FPS in glxgears03:58
geneo91not true fps though03:58
bretzelah! me too want to know what to do with plone --- dunoo how to connect to that stuff03:59
geneo91i can make mine that high also03:59
racingcamelI have downloaded and configured phpmyadmin but whenever i navigate to the directory i get a RaNdOm.phtml file that firefox doesn't know what to do with. How can I remedy this problem04:00
racingcamel?04:00
alissonzul, I put on /etc/bash.bashrc. The problem is that whenever I log in X, the PATH is not changed. This chage only when I open a Bash04:00
tizen880 frames in 5.0 seconds = 176.000 FPS <- That mean it's using the Radeon now?04:00
geneo9129830 frames in 5.0 seconds = 5966.000 FPS04:01
alissontizen, what radeon are you using?04:01
NetwrkMonkeyhow are you accessing phpmyadmin?04:01
tizenalisson: 8500 128mb04:01
speel5811 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1162.200 FPS04:01
geneo91nvidia04:01
alissontizen, AGP ?04:01
farruinnI installed gvlc, but I still don't have a nice gtk+ interface, is there something else I'm supposed to do?04:01
farruinn(hoary)04:01
tizenalisson: Yeah04:01
alissontizen, It should be much more, around 1000 FPS04:02
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tizenalisson: k, i guess i gotta figure it out04:02
NetwrkMonkeyracingcamel, how are you configuring phpmyadmin?04:02
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HrdwrBoBfarruinn: applications -> internet -> terminal service client04:02
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farruinnHrdwrBoB: are you thinking of vnc?04:03
HrdwrBoBoh04:03
farruinnanyway, I've found gnome-vlc, that may be what I'm looking for...04:03
HrdwrBoBsorry I'm a tard04:03
farruinn:)04:03
racingcameli am accessing it via firefox and by typing in localhost/phpmyadmin04:03
zulalisson: create a file in your home directory called .bashrc and put the line there when you finish that type the following: source ~/.bashrc04:04
alissontizen, have you alredy tried the www.ati.org to try to find a driver?04:04
NetwrkMonkeyracingcamel, did you actually configure it?04:04
farruinnok, this is weird, gvlc and gnome-vlc are supposed to provide gvlc and gnome-vlc commands, but nothing is installed under /usr/bin?!04:04
farruinnsomeone on x86 have these installed and can tell me it's just a PPC thing?04:04
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racingcamelyes, i went through config.inc.php and defined the neccessary fields04:04
NetwrkMonkeywhat feilds did you define?04:05
tizenalisson: yeah, i must of broke something... I've got a ton of remote linux admin experience... But this desktop stuff...04:05
NetwrkMonkeyand did you make sure that user has full rights to the mysql db's?04:05
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hardy_What repository contains libggi2 1:2.0.504:05
alissonzul, ohh, ok then. If I want to do it automatically all the boot time, I should put this command (source) in somewhere?04:05
zulalisson: if you put it your .bashrc it would only affect your user if you want it to affect everyone you can put the line in /etc/profile in the PATH LINE04:07
racingcameli defined PmaAbsoluteURl, $cfg['Servers'] [$i] ['host'] ,  $cfg['Servers'] [$i] ['auth_type']      = 'config';    // Authentication method (config, http or cookie based)?04:07
racingcamel$cfg['Servers'] [$i] ['user']           = 'root';      // MySQL user04:07
racingcamel$cfg['Servers'] [$i] ['password']       = '';          // MySQL password (only needed04:07
NetwrkMonkeyno no no no04:07
NetwrkMonkeyyou don't want the user being root04:07
NetwrkMonkeyyou need to configure your db04:08
alissonzul, sorry, but I tried it already, and it don't work on a X enviorment variables.04:08
racingcameland how might i go about configuring my DB04:08
racingcamelin this newfangled linux console04:08
zulalisson: have you tired log out and log back in?04:08
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NetwrkMonkeyhrm04:09
NetwrkMonkeyi ferget :-)04:09
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NetwrkMonkeyi have the syntax i used stored in a backup04:09
alissonzul, shure......for example, I have a launch aplication in X, to Eclipse, and it don't work. He says that can't find java. But when I open a bash, and type eclipse, it works because the path was changed because bashrc only change the PATH in bash04:09
jayeolaany one used gnokii for mobile phones before?04:10
alissonzul, I was trying to find an file to put the right PATH, to work on X too.04:10
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zul/etc/profile should do it but you might have to restart x04:11
hardy_What repository contains libggi2 1:2.0.5?04:11
zulgotta go though04:11
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tyler_Any know how to make XFce so it logs on as su?04:11
NetwrkMonkeyhrm04:11
racingcamelAny luck Netwrk?04:12
NetwrkMonkeylooking in a second book :-)04:12
alissonzul, when do you have a time, try it then. You will understand what I am talking about.04:12
alissonzul, better, read this: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-2793.html04:12
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alissonzul, I tried to do this, but without success04:13
Butters|XGH|SnipCan anyone tell me what I need to do to allow people to connect to my shared folder I setup??04:14
tofuhey guys, im a bit new to linux, and just got ubuntu installed on my other pc. im having problems getting it to connect to the internet... ive looked up some commands and tried ifdown eth0 (i have my nic already set as eth0) and then did ifup eth0 and it tells me  no dhcpoffers located04:15
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FX|LaptopHello04:15
FX|LaptopHey would be the command to start or restart ssh?04:15
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alissonButters|XGH|Snip, sharing with SAMBA or NFS?04:15
Butters|XGH|SnipUnder Administration theres a Shared Folder place... I added it...but Windows users need a username and pw04:15
Butters|XGH|Snipalisson, its smb04:16
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alissonButters|XGH|Snip, edit /etc/smb/samba.conf t allow all users04:16
alissontofu, use pppconfig04:16
tofuthnx04:17
evilbuttersWhere do I go to change the sources list so I can change them from Warty to Horay04:17
alissonand then pon <name of conection>04:17
Butters|XGH|Snipalisson, do you know the exact line I need to change?? I got lost there once before when I used FC304:17
alissonButters|XGH|Snip, i will see the file, I will try, take a moment, plz04:17
jsgotangcoyou just scroll down at the bottom04:17
Butters|XGH|Snipalisson, I don't even have the file....thats odd04:17
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jsgotangcoeh?04:17
alissonButters|XGH|Snip, sorry, the path is /etc/samba/smb.conf04:18
jsgotangco/etc/samba/smb.conf04:18
alissonButters|XGH|Snip, did you installed samba?04:18
hardy_What repository contains libggi2 1:2.0.5?04:18
WWFX|Laptop: Do you have the package openssh installed?04:18
Butters|XGH|Snipalisson, yes I have the file04:19
Butters|XGH|Snipalisson,  and yes I installed it...it wouldn't let me share until I d/led NFS or SMB04:19
alissonButters|XGH|Snip, ok then, I will try to find the option04:19
alissoni thing that word is "secutiry"04:20
tofualisson, for the number for my primary nameserver in pppconfig what is that exactly, my router ip..?04:20
jsgotangcoButters|XGH|Snip: check smb.conf and go to Share Definitions section it already has some templates for you to copy04:20
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WWFX|Laptop: Oops, that would be openssh-server04:20
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alissontofu, nameserver should get automatically from the provider04:21
geneo91pppconfig is dun04:21
alissontofu, almost of them do it automatically04:21
FX|Laptopugh....04:21
FX|LaptopHow come I'm getting Nor route to host with ssh?04:21
tofualisson, i went through and it asked me static / dynamic / other   should i choose other?04:22
FX|Laptopworked just fine a couple of days ago.04:22
alissondynamic04:22
alissontofu, dynamic04:22
geneo91dynamic04:22
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tofuok i chose dynamic and thats when it asks me for an ipfor the nameserver04:23
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alissontofu, after dynamic, he answer for Authentication Method, is it?04:24
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Butters|XGH|Snipalisson, none of that seems to be working...matter a fact looks like I have the same thing already in there04:25
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alissontofu, to select a radio button in text mode, you should press space bar04:25
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Butters|XGH|Snipalisson, don't I have to add a smb user and pw?04:25
alissonButters|XGH|Snip, did you try to put public = yes on sharing options04:26
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Butters|XGH|Snipalisson, yes I already have 2 folders that way...04:26
tofualisson, oh hah thanks04:26
alissonButters|XGH|Snip, you can try to add a user or change a security mode04:27
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Butters|XGH|Snipalisson, security mode?04:28
CompotatoJIs it possible to get flash and or java working with Ubuntu x86_6404:28
alissonButters|XGH|Snip, in section Authentication......if my mind didn't flesh, its security = share04:28
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Butters|XGH|Snipalisson, ok brb04:29
alissonButters|XGH|Snip, try to restart samba in /etc/init.d/samba restart04:29
voxvirusi'm running hoary, i've got apache working but i can't get plone to work right, can someone help me installing plone right?04:30
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kbittyheh this chan even bigger than bsd04:30
alissonButters|XGH|Snip, did it work?04:31
Butters|XGH|Snipalisson, I'm getting errors when I restart04:31
Butters|XGH|Snip * Stopping Samba daemons...04:31
Butters|XGH|Snip/etc/init.d/samba: line 45: start-stop-daemon: command not found04:31
Butters|XGH|Snip/etc/init.d/samba: line 56: start-stop-daemon: command not found         [ ok ] 04:31
Butters|XGH|Snip * Starting Samba daemons..04:31
Butters|XGH|Snip *tc/init.d/samba: line 28: start-stop-daemon: command not found         [fail] 04:31
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alissonButters|XGH|Snip, line 45?04:32
kbittydoes ubuntu support a intel ethernet express 8/16 lan card?04:32
Butters|XGH|Sniplol yeah thats what I said04:32
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alissonButters|XGH|Snip, what are the line 45?04:33
Butters|XGH|Snip;   name resolve order = lmhosts host wins bcast04:33
alissonButters|XGH|Snip, it's very strange, because this line is a comment04:34
Butters|XGH|Snipalisson, yeah I noticed...04:34
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alissonif you rechange the security to user mode, it return to funct?04:35
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Butters|XGH|Snipalisson, I've never been able to share files on Linux yet....It makes me feel bad because I have 60gb of music and my wife can't get to any of it04:36
Butters|XGH|Snipalisson, nah I get the same error no matter what I do04:37
alissonButters|XGH|Snip, this is very strange!!!!04:37
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alissonButters|XGH|Snip, do you want my smb.conf file?04:38
Butters|XGH|Snipalisson, sure I'm up for trying it04:38
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alissonhow can I send it you?04:39
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xeroi just booted of the new preview livecd, and i cannot do dchcpcd... does anybody know what im doing wrong?04:40
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farruinnerm, what is dhcpcd? I have a full install and don't have it...04:42
farruinnoh, dchcpcd...04:42
farruinndon't have that either04:42
tofualisson, in pppconfig it keeps asking me for tone/pulse dailing and the number i dial to given by my isp. what am i supposed to do if i have ethernet and dont dail to them..04:43
soldo you mean dhcpd?04:43
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alissontofu, i have never depared with it04:43
tofuhmm04:43
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hou5tonfarruinn:   ok ... got that hoary running. ....04:44
GammaRaydoes hoary have a light install option?04:45
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farruinnhou5ton: awesome, everything working alright?04:45
farruinnGammaRay: server I think is light04:45
xerowhy doesnt the ubuntu livecd have dhcpcd04:46
hou5tonpretty much ... so far ... i saw it listed a couple errors on boot, ...and I need to change my grub back04:46
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TiscanUbuntu is pretty darn nice... I have to admit it.04:46
hou5tonfarruinn:   where is grub .. ?  boot/grub/grub.conf?04:46
TiscanI think this means I have to stop hating Debian.  hehe04:46
CompotatoJ/etc/grub.conf04:46
CompotatoJlol jk04:47
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farruinnxero: erm, dhcpcd is in universe, is there something specifically you need it for?04:47
farruinnis the default dhcp client not working?04:47
GammaRayhou5ton: try /boot/grub/menu.lst04:48
farruinnhou5ton: I don't know offhand, I don't have a pc.  Do a sudo updatedb then a search04:48
farruinnor listen to GammaRay =)04:48
hou5tonGammaRay:   ah ... that's right04:48
GammaRayupdatedb? tisk tisk.. use find.. be a man :-P~04:48
farruinnhou5ton: dpkg -L [package]  will always tell you what files are installed by a package04:48
xerofarruinn: i cannot get internet up on my laptop on the livecd04:49
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xeroand so i type in dhcpcd and it says there is no such file04:50
farruinnGammaRay: heh, I never knew about find, always used locate...04:50
Burgundaviaxero: dhclient04:50
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farruinnthat should be running anyway though, right?04:50
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Burgundaviayou can use dhclient to get an address04:50
farruinnah04:51
Burgundaviait is not a daemon, AFAICM04:51
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GammaRayM?04:51
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evilbuttersI was trying to install xserver-xorg and I get this sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg04:51
evilbuttersSetting up xserver-xorg (6.8.2-2) ...04:52
evilbuttersxserver-xorg postinst warning: not updating /etc/X11/xorg.conf; file has04:52
evilbutters   been customized04:52
KingArthurok. someone, I need an install of linux that I can install on a USB flash drive.  Any way I can do that with this install?04:52
evilbuttersany ideas?04:52
xeroBurgundavia: thanks04:52
tritiumevilbutters, read the top lines of /etc/X11/xorg.conf about what to do when you've modified the file, and thus changed the md5sum04:52
GammaRayevilbutters: md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf > somewhere is /usr I forgot04:52
factotumif i want to create a dir that i could access from this machine, would that be done with nfs or something? I want to try to mount it a boot time.04:52
geneo91KingArthur:  try dsl04:52
factotumthey are both connected via router04:53
Burgundaviafarruinn: mybad, it does run as a daemon04:53
farruinnBurgundavia: I was just looking at the man page and was thinking that =)04:53
Burgundaviafarruinn: I was looking at my process listing04:53
PacoBCNf*cking Enemy Territory... so adicting04:53
Burgundaviafarruinn: but you can manually call it04:53
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factotumor should I just yank the other box from the router and directly connect it to this one using another nic card on this system? Im not concerned about modem access on the other box.04:54
hou5ton  :) ... well .... where is Synaptic at now?   in hoary?04:54
hou5tondon't see it in the menu04:54
hou5tonI would think it would be in System/ADministration04:55
tritiumhou5ton, System->Admint04:55
Tiscanhou5ton: System -> Administration04:55
KingArthurthanks.  Is that the only one that will work?  I tried doing a partition resize on my laptop to condense the data on the HD and create contigious free space using partition magic.  Well, that failed, and now windows will not boot.  Keeps giving me the blue screen.  Now I'm pretty much screwed, and want to see if I can come up with ANY way to recover data.04:55
honePacoBCN: yeah it is04:55
PacoBCNwe need our own ubuntu server04:55
honehmm I can't get sound in quake 1 or 2, what gives?04:55
PacoBCNfor Enemy Territory04:55
KingArthurso, I'm going to use my MP3 player as a bootable linux drive, since it can read but not write NTFS.04:55
honePacoBCN: heh04:55
KingArthuranyone know if DSL will work with WiFi from intel centrino chipsets?04:56
evilbutterswhen I tried to fix the xorg.conf I get this04:56
evilbuttersroot@ubuntu:/home/evilbutters # cp /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 /etc/X11/XF86Config-4.custom04:56
evilbuttersroot@ubuntu:/home/evilbutters # md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 >/var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum04:56
evilbuttersroot@ubuntu:/home/evilbutters # dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree8604:56
evilbutters/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: xserver-xfree86 is broken or not fully installed04:56
geneo91it may04:56
jsgotangcoit will04:56
hou5tontritium:   Tiscan  ... sorry guys ... but there is nothing there named Synaptic04:56
jsgotangcodepends on the chipset04:56
jsgotangcoi am using a centrino laptop04:56
tritiumevilbutters, I thought it was xorg.conf, not XF86Config-4.  Which do you have?04:57
geneo91jsgotangco:  we are talking damn small linux04:57
tritiumhou5ton, I'm thinking you did a dist-upgrade, and didn't notice that synaptic got removed...04:57
hou5tonhmmm ....04:57
farruinnhou5ton: you have ubuntu-desktop installed?04:57
KingArthurok, thanks guys.  Be back if it fails or works probably ;-)04:57
hou5tonok04:57
hou5tonfarruinn:   ya .. everything else seems to be here and working04:58
hou5tonthe whole Gnome Ubuntu desktop04:58
Tiscanhou5ton: You are looking under the System menu that is 2 to the right of the Applications menu correct?04:58
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hou5tonbut Synaptic is NOT in System/Admin ....04:58
tritiumhou5ton, if you have ubuntu-desktop installed, then you should have synaptic, as it is a dependency04:58
hou5tonTiscan:   yes04:59
Tiscanhou5ton: Not System Tools under Applications04:59
evilbutterswhen I went to XORG, thats what it had to fix it04:59
tritiumhou5ton, apt-cache policy ubuntu-desktop04:59
geneo91hou5ton:  try apt-get install synaptic04:59
his it better to do a fresh install of the preview release or just do a dist-upgrade?04:59
farruinnh: I did a fresh install the other day and it went nicely05:00
tritiumhou5ton, if apt-cache policy ubunut-desktop shows that it's not installed, you'll want to install it, and it will pull in synaptic05:00
geneo91either way its going to be almost the same update05:00
tritiums/ubunut/ubuntu05:00
farruinnh: it would allow you to test the installer on your machine05:00
hou5tonit wasn't installed ....05:00
hou5tongeneo91:   I did the apt-get ... and it's there now05:00
hou5tonThanks a bunch05:00
tritiumhou5ton, you better install ubuntu-desktop as well, then05:00
geneo91why maybe he dont want OO05:01
hou5tonoh .. i thought I had that since I have this nice looking desktop after the install05:01
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BurgundaviaSiRrUs: cyrus!!!05:01
tritiumhou5ton, see my previous comments to you05:01
BurgundaviaSiRrUs: didn't know you were an Ubuntu person05:01
geneo91hou5ton:  if you need OO ok but if not dont worry about it05:02
tritiumgeneo91, it's much more than just OO05:02
SiRrUsBurgundavia of course I am why :)05:02
hou5tontritium:   oh ... i see ... I should do apt-get ubuntu-desktop ... and it would have got it all05:02
tritiumhou5ton, yeah05:02
hou5tonand I do need OO05:02
hou5tonthanks05:02
tritiumsure05:02
geneo91yeah a bunch of bloat05:02
noobeeummm, can anyone tell me how to force nautilus to regenerate thumbnails?  I removed ~/.thumbnails and "kill -9 -1" but no avail.  Any ideas?05:02
BurgundaviaSiRrUs: this is cyrus of arbutus, right?05:02
tritiumgeneo91, your opinion.  Let him decide for himself.05:02
SiRrUsBurgundavia nope05:03
BurgundaviaSiRrUs: now that is funny05:03
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BurgundaviaSiRrUs: I happen to know another cyrus, from the west coast, with the same screen name05:03
geneo91tritium:  i use mine for multimedia so i dont need office app05:03
tritiumgeneo91, that's fine.05:04
SiRrUsyeah small world ;)05:04
EsKi just installed ubuntu :)05:04
BurgundaviaSiRrUs: very small world. nice to meet you btw05:04
tritiumgeneo91, I use mine for scientific computing, so neither do I, but that's not the point.  It's about choice for each user.05:05
SiRrUsBurgundavia yeah it is and same to you05:05
geneo91i like to pick and choose not be forced05:05
tritiumgeneo91, exactly.  Everybody has choice.  He said he needed OO, and he wanted ubuntu-desktop.  That was his choice to make.05:06
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geneo91well i did ask05:06
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tritiumgeneo91, I know.  We're good.  :)05:08
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geneo91i wish they would make an installer for just such options05:09
farruinnIs files not appearing on the desktop a known problem?05:09
tritiumgeneo91, I believe there is an expert or custom installation option05:09
farruinn(I vaguely remember reading about it) - in hoary05:09
geneo91game station ,multimedia station, or office station would do05:10
dleHello.  I'm having a bit of trouble performing today's kernel upgrade.  The package 'linux-image-2.6-386' is being kept back, but that appears to be a different one than in the bulletin.  Any thoughts?05:10
hou5tonok ... looks like everything is in order .. but I notice on booting it lists two errors that move too fast for me to read them all ... but have to do with pciehp  ... and some lib05:10
tritiumhou5ton, pciehp error can be ignored.  If you dislike the error, you can blacklist that module.05:11
geneo91hou5ton:  /var/log/system05:11
hou5ton/var/log/system05:11
geneo91yeah it would show you what you missed05:12
geneo91should be a boot log also05:12
hou5tonhow do i enter that so it shows me the results?05:12
tritiumhou5ton, less /var/log/system05:13
geneo91you can do gedit /var/log/system05:13
hou5tonless /var/log/system05:13
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hou5tonit says no such file or dir05:14
tritiumhou5ton, you can also check dmesg (e.g. dmesg | less)05:14
farruinns/sytem/syslog I think05:14
tritiumfarruinn, you're right.  my bad, hou5ton05:15
geneo91i cant do it now have to much going on05:15
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tritiumdo what?05:15
geneo91i like to use gedit cause it has more functions05:16
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tritiumhou5ton, anyway, you might want to add "pciehp", and possibly "shpchp" to your /etc/hotplug/blacklist05:17
hou5tontritium:   ok ... by the way ... what are they?05:18
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tritiumhou5ton, pciehp is PCI Express Hotplug Controller05:19
dleI find Deb/Ubuntu's kernel packaging confusing.05:20
tritiumhou5ton, shpchp is Standard Hotplug PCI Controller Driver05:20
adoyrestamonhoary live is pretty sweet05:20
tritiumdle, it's nice to have kernels under package management, though05:20
adoyrestamonrunning in qemu on my suse box05:21
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CoponsHi, i am having problems printing05:21
Coponsi am using hoary05:21
dletritium: Yes, but Ubu's not alone in that. I can't make head or tail of them.05:21
tritiumdle, what aspect?05:22
dlethe naming and the dependecy relationships.05:22
DrSirLuminairubu05:23
DrSirLuminairpupu05:23
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Coponsit seems everything its working fine the tray icon even says that its printing but nothing happens05:25
dleHas anyone else successfully upgraded after today's bulletin?  [USN-95-1] 05:27
SiRrUshmmm what did i miss what bulletin05:28
dlehttp://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/usn/usn-95-105:29
connersecurity issue in kernel 2.6.805:29
farruinnAnyone know of a way to turn off icons in the menus in KDE?05:29
tritiumdle, yes, I upgraded that kernel, but I'm running Hoary, anyway, so I don't boot into that kernel.05:30
connerI'm running 2.6.10-4-686 so it doesn't affect me.05:30
crimsunyou should be running 2.6.10-5-68605:30
tritiumconner, not 2.6.10-5?05:30
dleI'm not sure it's available, despite the bulletin.05:31
connertritium: nope. Let me sign off, upgrade and reboot.05:31
tritiumdle, it is, as I already installed it.05:31
SiRrUsi am running 2.6.10-5-68605:31
dletritium: Odd. I've updated, but the only ones available are -3 thru -5.05:32
SiRrUsdle are you using hoary or warty?05:32
dlewarty05:33
SiRrUsmaybe thats why05:33
dleHrm?  The update is apropos warty.05:33
tritium(or anyone who still has the 2.6.8 kernel installed)05:33
dleI don't understand this at all.05:34
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tritiumdle, do you have warty-security repo in your sources.list?05:34
dletritiumL yes.05:35
andrewskiso the Human mouse cursors are back in ubuntu-artwork; how do i get them to show up by default?05:35
dletritium: yes05:35
tritiumandrewski, one way is to install gcursor, and use it to select your icon theme05:35
andrewskitritium: that's only per-user.05:36
tritiumdle, hmm...05:36
farruinndle: do you have warty-updates?05:36
andrewskitritium: and i know how to add it to .Xdefaults anyway.05:36
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tritiumandrewski, yes.  You can update the alternative05:36
dlefarruinn: is that an apt source?05:36
andrewskitritium: alternative?05:36
tritiumandrewski, in /etc/alternatives, you can update x-cursor-theme05:37
farruinndle: iirc, yes (I'm on hoary now), just copy one of your warty lines and change warty to warty-updates05:37
andrewskitritium: ah, ok.  thanks.05:37
tritiumandrewski, man update-alternatives05:37
tritiumand see the README in /etc/alternatives05:37
andrewskitritium: debian is a different world.05:37
tritiumandrewski, what are you coming from?05:37
andrewskitritium: gentoo, but about two months ago now.05:38
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tritiumfarruinn, shouldn't that be in warty-security, though?05:38
tritiumandrewski, cool.  Welcome aboard!05:38
andrewskitritium: thanks, you (in part) have helped make the transition pretty easy. :D05:38
tritiumandrewski, thanks :)05:39
farruinntritium: iirc I had a warty-updates in my soureces.list05:39
tritiumfarruinn, dle:  apt-cache policy shows that it came from warty-security05:39
farruinnsources.list even, in addition to warty-security05:39
dlefarruinn: interesting. I wonder how that eluded me until now.  ANyway, it does not solve my kernel problem.05:39
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deadwartyhi all. my /var/lib/dpkg/available file died horrible05:41
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tritiumdle, I guess your mirror is slow to sync05:41
deadwartyis there a way to rebuild it?05:41
deadwartyapt died yesterday knocking out glibc and grep etc. i fixed the libc stuff by renaming the dkp-tmp files. but now it won't let me install things without a /var/lib/dpkg/available file05:42
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crimsundeadwarty: you don't have a /var/lib/dpkg/available-old?05:42
icebalmlame, no gnome menu editor05:42
crimsunthere's a user-seeded python-based one, icebalm.05:43
deadwartycrimsun: it's corrupted05:43
crimsunsearch the ubuntu-user mailing list archive.05:43
deadwartyboth are05:43
icebalmgah05:43
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deadwartyhm05:43
dletritium: http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/05:43
crimsundeadwarty: sec.05:44
icebalmthe python gnome menu editor is corrupted?05:44
andrewskitritium: so, i tried 'update-alternatives --config x-cursor-theme', but the Human theme wasn't listed.  how do i add it (and give it high priority)?05:44
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crimsundeadwarty: run sudo dselect update05:45
tritiumandrewski, you're right...hmm, I don't know.  That sounds like a problem with the package05:45
tritiumdle, what?05:45
andrewskitritium: should i try 'dpkg-reconfigure ubuntu-artwork'?05:45
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tritiumandrewski, I saw a discussion about this the other day.  I think it's a problem.  Any way you can just hang on until the problems are resolved?  perhaps use gcursor in the mean time?05:46
dletritium: that's the mirror I'm using (if it's a mirror at all).05:46
andrewskitritium: yeah, no problem; i'll double-check bugzilla to be sure it's been reported.05:46
tritiumandrewski, sorry, buddy05:46
deadwartymy friend just told me how to rebuild the available file. it's dselect update05:46
andrewskitritium: it's really no problem; i like squashing bugs.05:47
crimsundeadwarty: I just told you that.05:47
tritium:)05:47
deadwartycrimsun: awe, missed that. thanks05:47
tritiumdeadwarty, now you can change your nick to livewarty :)05:47
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livewarty;)05:47
tritiumheh05:47
livewartywe'll see. first i need to get a bunch of things like grep reinstalled05:48
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icebalmeasy way to get rid of windows: write your grub bootsector to that partition by mistake05:49
tritiumicebalm, window's fdisk /mbr doesn't recover it?05:51
icebalmtritium: winxp has no fdisk05:51
DarthFrogicebalm: You can recover from that.05:51
tritiumoh, how convenient05:51
icebalmtritium: can't boot it anyways, that's where it's chainloader is stored :D05:51
icebalmDarthFrog: I know05:51
icebalmand I eventually will I suppose05:52
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tritiumicebalm, you didn't by chance make a WinXP boot disk, I'm taking it?05:52
icebalmbut not today :D05:52
DarthFrogOn the other hand, it's a good opportunity to make the switch completely. :-)05:52
tritiumicebalm, do you have important data on your XP partition?05:52
icebalmtritium: I have winxp live cd's with recover tools, I'm covered05:53
icebalmtritium: not that one :D05:53
redissexyguys, anyone knows why the latest kernel versions may have some conflicts with GTK+? ANy pointers?05:53
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tritiumicebalm, oh, I didn't know there were live CDs for XP05:53
icebalmtritium: bartpe05:53
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lunitikredissexy: why are you assuming they do? what is giving you that idea?05:53
tritiumicebalm, oh, interesting05:54
andrewskialright, tritium, it's in and ready to be squashed.  it looked on another (unrelated) bug like it's going to fixed soon, now that hoary's out.05:54
andrewskilater!05:54
redissexylunitik, Linux heaven 2.6.10-5-386 and Linux heaven 2.6.10-4-386 crash my Ruby-GNOME2 apps when I open some dialogs and Linux heaven 2.6.10-3-386 and below do not05:54
dletritium: what mirror do you use for security?05:55
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tritiumdle: deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu warty-security main restricted05:55
tritiumdeb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu warty-security main restricted05:55
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tyler_Yoyoma. How does one make gnome log in as su?05:56
tritiumicebalm, any idea if you can run bartpe in qemu on linux ?05:56
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dletritium: same here.  Colour me baffled.05:57
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R0bNyctyler_, sudo su05:57
icebalmtritium: no idea, don't know what qemu is05:57
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icebalmhttp://interex.com/pubcontent/enterprise/mar01/f5peters.html  <-- this looks nice, why can't I find it? :(05:58
tritiumicebalm, http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/05:58
tritiumthere's no menu editor for gnome 2.10 at present05:58
icebalmthat looks like a good one tho...05:59
R0bNyctheres no universe or multiverse on hoary preview?06:00
DarthFrogR0bNyc: Yes there is.06:00
tritiumR0bNyc, Hoary has both06:00
R0bNyci dont seem to have06:00
R0bNycerr06:00
tritiumadd them06:00
R0bNycw00t06:00
R0bNycarent they suppose to be there already06:00
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Haydenwhats the lastest version of debian? has it got a codename?06:00
tyler_Thanks RobNyc06:01
ironwolfR0bNyc: sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list ; may help you. :)06:01
farruinnno, they're "unsupported" which is why they aren't06:01
tritiumHayden, the upcoming version is Sarge.06:01
tyler_Anyone using hoary?06:01
tritiumyes, tyler_06:01
R0bNycironwolf, thanks I thought they would show up in synaptic lol06:01
ironwolftyler_: yes06:01
Haydentritium, ok, whats the latest stable version called?06:01
R0bNyctyler_, I am and a few others06:01
ironwolfHayden: woody06:02
Haydenok thanks06:02
tyler_did you find that you could modify the properties of menu items, icons etc, like you could in warthog? The option is no longer available to me06:02
Haydeni installed xebian on my xbox and left it for a couple months doing nothing06:02
tyler_Which others ROb?06:02
R0bNycI have to uncomment these 2 lines and add multiverse like this right06:02
R0bNycdeb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe multiverse06:02
R0bNycdeb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe multiverse06:02
elmayahello06:02
tritiumtyler_, no.  That's a known issue.06:02
elmayaany1 has a linksys usb wireless working on ubuntu?06:02
tyler_OH I see, so the next update will change it?06:03
tyler_Well, the stable ver I mean06:03
farruinn think it's slated for gnome 2.12 (anyone?)06:03
tritiumtyler_, I'm afraid it may be some time before we see a menu editor for gnome 2.1006:03
ironwolfanyone know a good web sucker? I used to use www.quadsucker.com/ultraweb but I'm trying to stay linux for now.06:03
tritiumah, perhaps not until 2.1206:03
tyler_Oh, it's a gnome issue. But I don't get it, I could do it in warty, why did they take it away?06:03
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farruinntyler_: the whole menu subsystem has changed06:04
farruinnthe gnome developers have to create entirely new code to make it work06:04
tritiumtyler_, gnome has adopted the freedesktop.org standards, and this is a transitional pain06:04
tyler_Oh, Well its for the worse! :)06:04
tyler_oh okay, fair enough06:05
tritiumtyler_, not in the long run...06:05
farruinntyler_: use at your own risk: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1967306:05
tyler_Theme installer has some issues too. But I guess I should be bug reporting rather than bitching06:05
farruinnI've added all of one menus with his tool, no problems yet :D06:05
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tyler_Oo, I like risky endeavours06:05
Burgundaviatyler_: yes06:06
Haydenif i changed the sources.list in debian to the ubuntu sources would it work?06:06
crimsunyes06:06
Haydenhmm06:06
crimsunbut it's HIGHLY not recommended06:06
Haydenok06:06
BurgundaviaHayden: there is a debian migration path page06:07
Haydenok06:07
BurgundaviaHayden: let me find it for you06:07
ironwolfHayden: from debian --> ubuntu? or from ubuntu --> debian?06:07
tritiumHayden, probably even riskier with xebian on xbox06:07
Haydendeb->ubuntu06:07
Haydentritium yea i know06:07
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ironwolfHayden: either way it'll "work" for some value of work.... but I'm a risk taker, and I wouldn't....unexpected results is the best possible scenario I think.06:08
crimsuntrust me, it does work, but YOU will get cruft.06:08
Haydencruft?06:08
crimsunmenu items placed improperly, applications not working correctly due to differing dependencies, etc.06:09
ironwolfHayden: if you don't know, just say no.. *Crimsun: you're braver than I thought if you *KNOW* it works.*06:09
Haydenyep06:09
crimsunironwolf: this machine is pinned to Sid and updates every 35 minutes from Hoary.06:10
Haydeni think i might leave it then guys :)06:10
crimsunHayden: it's much better to do a clean install, that way you can bug us when things don't work :-)06:10
Haydenyea06:10
hou5tonyou know ... there is one thing that isn't working since upgrading to hoary ... sounds in XChat.  They worked before ... and all my other sounds are working ????06:11
Haydencrimsun: but debian is on my xbox so i cant really do a fresh install06:11
crimsunHayden: if you have a hankering for tweaking, build a hoary chroot and add a chrooted hoary gdm session to /etc/inittab :-)06:11
Haydenok06:11
crimsunthat way you can run Sid and Hoary simultaneously.06:12
R0bNycanyone here using apollon06:12
Haydencrimsun: ok thanks ill look into it06:12
crimsunbut -- it's unsupported and unrecommended.06:12
Haydenyep06:12
farruinnhou5ton: make sure xchat is using esd?06:13
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hou5tonk06:13
FASTanyone else have problems with totem? for example, you pause a video, and then hit play to resume, but an error message comes up about audio device in use, and then the video is closed?06:15
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BurgundaviaFAST: I did have that issue in the past. I have solved it since. This is months ago. Sorry, but I don't remember what I did. Question:Are you using totem-xine or gstreamer?06:17
tritiumwell, time to transform and roll out...good night all.06:18
crimsunni tritium06:18
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icebalmuhm, why does fam want to remove gnome when I try to install it06:19
FASTBurgundavia, i dont recall.  but ive been using Xine to play videos now, and it works really well06:19
stuNNed_icebalm: hi, use gamin instead06:19
hou5tonwhat is the fastest way to find out where something is ...   like an app .. or like esd?06:19
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FASTjust a shame that the usability of xine couldnt be the same for totem, since totem would be a nice app to load up fast to play video from the web06:20
icebalmstuNNed_: gamin huh?06:20
sean__hey  all06:20
stuNNed_yeah it is replacement or soemthing, icebalm06:20
stuNNed_hi sean__06:20
icebalmstuNNed_: Gamin is a file and directory monitoring system defined to be a subset of the FAM (File Alteration Monitor) system.06:21
icebalmstuNNed_: subset is a replacement?06:21
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stuNNed_icebalm: *or something* ?06:21
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farruinnicebalm: I don't think you need it, I installed hoary the other day from preview cd and it wasn't installed06:22
BurgundaviaFAST: hmm06:22
icebalmfarruinn: need no, want yes06:22
Haydenhow can i find all the users from a command line06:22
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Haydenthe names and stuff06:23
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icebalmfarruinn: hoary also didn't install prelink, doesn't mean that stopped me from installing and prelinking my binaries06:23
R0bNycwhy is my laptop clocked at a 530 mhz /sys06:23
R0bNycSysInfo: Linux 2.6.10-4-386 |  mobile AMD Athlon(tm) XP2800+ 530.023 MHz | Bogomips: 1052.67 | Mem: 566/694M [||||||||||]  | Diskspace: 27.07G Free: 23.82G | Procs: 75 | Uptime: 31 mins 23 secs  | Load: 0.28 0.27 0.29  | Vpenis: 35.6 cm | Screen: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility U1 @ 1024x768 (24 bpp) | eth0: In: 88.43M Out: 2.35M06:23
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beowuffWhy is hotplug "kept back" when using apt-get?06:28
touchHello there. Is it possible for me to customise ubuntu 5.04 live CD? HOW?06:29
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Anubis acroread06:30
Anubis/usr/bin/acroread: line 12: /usr/lib/Acrobat5/bin/acroread: No such file or directory06:30
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raydoggtouch, http://www.krungkuene.org/krung/tech/03/remaster_morphix/index_en.php06:30
touchThanks. :)06:31
hou5toni just updated to hoary, but had backported xchat.  is that why i can't get the sounds to work?06:31
hou5tonShould i uninstall it and reinstall it?06:31
hou5tonin Synaptic, ... it still shows the current Xchat as the backported Warty06:32
crimsunthat's what's wrong with backports06:32
crimsunmost of them are versioned incorrectly06:32
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billytwowillyheh06:33
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deFryskso kde3.4 is in hoary06:33
billytwowillyyay! a cool program has strange requirements! darn you all to heck strange python packages.06:33
deFryskis hoary the first with that ?06:33
crimsundeFrysk: yep.06:33
billytwowillyyes kde3.4 is in hoary06:34
ironwolfcrimsun: that's insane.06:34
deFryskits not even announced yet on kde06:34
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billytwowillyit's probably a rc or something06:34
crimsunpackagers have access to source tarballs 1 week before the announcements go live.06:34
deFryskbillytwowilly, nope its also in stable ftp of kde06:34
billytwowillyor that;)06:34
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billytwowillynow a real question would be: when is profitpy going to get packaged??;)06:35
deFryskand acroread706:35
crimsunpackage it and I'll consider sponsoring it, billytwowilly. ;-)06:35
billytwowillyacroread is a steaming pile of memory leak...06:35
deFryskbillytwowilly, oh my06:36
crimsunthat's right, use evince instead ;-)06:37
billytwowillycrimsun, to package profitpy I would have to package 3 or 4 other python bits.. to package those bits I would have to understand how apt works...06:37
billytwowillyPerhaps I'll look into it in the summer.06:38
crimsunbillytwowilly: those "3 to 4 other python bits" aren't already packaged?06:38
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billytwowillycrimsun, not in hoary.06:38
billytwowillyatleast synaptic didn't find them06:39
billytwowillypykde, pyqwt, ibpy06:39
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beowuffexit06:41
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crimsunbillytwowilly: apt-cache search python kde06:42
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crimsunwhat is qwt?06:43
crimsundo you mean "qt"?06:43
crimsunif so, apt-cache search python qt :-)06:43
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billytwowilly http://sourceforge.net/projects/pyqwt/06:44
Haydeni need some help installing apache06:44
thullyhi - has anyone here transferred music to an iPod with gnupod (as opposed to gtkpod)06:44
Haydeni've done apt-get apache, and apt-get php406:44
Haydenbut i cant get to the website06:44
billytwowillycrimsun,  http://sourceforge.net/projects/pyqwt/06:45
crimsunHayden: dpkg -l libapache2-mod-php4|grep ^ii06:45
HaydenNo packages found matching libapache2-mod-php4.06:45
crimsunHayden: warty?06:45
Haydenxbox :!06:46
Zotnixl06:46
Zotnixscore06:46
Zotnix.. woah. Wrong room06:46
ZotnixWrong application too.06:46
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thullyIf anyone here knows about gnupod - i'm wondering - if you did a gnupod_addsong.pl -m /media/ipod ~/Music/*, would it only transfer new/changed songs to the iPod?06:46
billytwowillyhere's a question for all you lawyer types: Most of the software that is GPL'd has this line or something similar in the licence:"This document may be used under the terms the GNU General Public License version 2 or higher." What stops me from writing GPL version 3 that says "all your code are belong to me"?06:47
thullyit says "as publish by the Free Software Foundation in most of those "or later" clauses"06:48
thullypublished06:48
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billytwowillythully, well, the debian new maintainter's guide can be yours for only a short paragraph of writing;) I'm happy to hear it will be slightly harder to steal actual code;)06:50
thullyIANAL, though06:50
billytwowillyneither am I. I'm just good at thinking up devious things;)06:50
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DazeD||laptopok need help big time06:52
thullydoes anybody here know if you can set rhythmbox to automatically recognize new music files in a directory that are added by other programs?06:53
DazeD||laptopi just upgraded from warty to hoary on my laptop....now all that is displayed is the top left corner of my laptop monitor, and all that the desktop displays is the top half of the desktop....how can i fix this mind you im on Windows right now what can i do when i cant even launch applications??06:53
farruinnthully: doesn't it scan its music folder when it starts?06:54
crimsunfarruinn: not for new items, no.06:54
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R0bNycAnyone here heard of this qemu emulator you can run linux or windows under qemu (while in Linux) http://www.dslreports.com/r0/download/767245~93ac1852d0c317c2cd293db9db9b50ef/kdedesktop3.png06:54
thullyit should...06:54
crimsunfarruinn: only to verify that its current library is valid06:54
thullyany way to do something like I was saying?06:54
R0bNycanyone here using 2.6.11 ?06:55
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DazeD||laptopi just upgraded from warty to hoary on my laptop....now all that is displayed is the top left corner of my laptop monitor, and all that the desktop displays is the top half of the desktop....how can i fix this mind you im on Windows right now what can i do when i cant even launch applications??06:55
crimsunthully: ask in #rhythmbox on ircd.gnome.org06:55
farruinnthully: I think amarok does that if you want to install a kde app (you'll have to figure out how to make it use esd though)06:55
crimsunsomeone should tell thully about /connect -ircnet ...06:55
DazeD||laptopanyone help me?06:56
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thullywhere do you reckon is the best place to ask a question about gnupod?06:57
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odysseythully the mailing list?07:02
odysseythully, tried gtkpod?07:02
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thullygtkpod needs to be recompiled to support AAC files - and it needs like 6 different libraries to be compiled.07:03
da_bon_bonhi all07:03
thullyI have some AAC files that I want to transfer to it (well, I don't have it yet - should be here UPS tomorrow)07:03
thullyI also wanted a really simple "dump all files to iPod" solution, not a program that looks like a jukebox but isn't really one07:04
domtari can't get aac's to play07:05
thullylook at RestrictedFormats wiki - there is some info in there07:06
domtarthx07:06
thullyeven info on buying off iTunes music store on Linux...07:06
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Blabber864823788hi all07:07
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thullyI figure if I do a I figure I can do a gnupod_addsong.pl -m /mnt/ipod ~/Music/* and it would detect duplicates, adding just new songs to the iPod07:07
domtari new of that...pymusique07:07
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dazedhey can i get some Hoary help please?07:08
thullyI wonder why it isn't on the Slashdot front page, generating headlines...07:08
inhdoes anybody know how to get ubuntu onto a windows domain?07:08
crimsundazed: don't ask to ask, just ask.07:08
dazedok well...i just upgraded from warty to hoary on my laptop....now all that is displayed is the top left corner of my laptop monitor, and all that the desktop displays is the top half of the desktop....how can i fix this mind you im on Windows right now what can i do when i cant even launch applications??07:08
dazedim not on windows anymore07:09
dazedim on my PC07:09
da_bon_bonhey, hoary live cd can apt-get ? and save changes to a writeable medium ?07:09
dazedand i have my laptop up next to me07:09
odysseyinh samba?07:09
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inhloaded and conf file edited.07:09
deadcatanyone using bootsplash on ppc?07:09
thullyI wonder - on Rhythmbox you can add folders to the library, but it doesn't add new files from those folders unless you go to the add to library screen and press OK.07:09
inhbut still can't access certain machines because of privelages.07:09
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inhbut i'm a domain admin07:10
thullyCould this be considered a bug?07:10
dazedso no one has any advice???07:10
crimsundazed: please be patient07:10
deadcatdazed: nope.07:10
domtarthully: it has always been that way...I think it's intentional07:10
thullywhy would someone want it that way?07:11
domtarthully: better said...I think that's as far as they've gotten07:11
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domtari agree that surely no one would want it that way07:11
deadcatsomeone do a apt-cache search bootsplash for me please.07:12
voltronanyone have aheros chipset working for wireless07:12
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thullywell, I wish they would just modify it to do the folder scan it does when the directories are added each time it is launched07:12
crimsunatheros? it/they are supported, yes.07:12
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thullyOK - maybe a low priority bug.. but a bug nontheless07:12
dazed_i think its a resoloution thing...its only picking pu 640x480....????07:12
voltroncrimsun, it shows up as eth007:13
DarthFrogvoltron: Yes, I have an Atheros based PCMCIA card working perfectly in Hoary.07:13
deadcatanyone on a ppc right now?07:13
voltronDarthFrog, sweet, what do i have to do?07:14
crimsundazed_: your problem description leaves much to be desired.07:14
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crimsundazed_: please tell us more about your configuration, what you were doing prior, etc.07:14
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thullydoes anyone know if Ubuntu automatically mounts an iPod?  Do you have to do any more than reformatting as FAT32 and initializing the database using the program of your choice to get it working?07:15
domtarI don't have one but 2 ppl I know say theirs auto mounts07:16
DarthFrogvoltron: Add universe/multiverse to your repositories and install linux-restricted-modules.07:16
mike_douglasthully: the iPod automatically mounted for a friend of mine.07:16
CountDownHi all.  Is the Dell Dimension 4700 known to work under Ubuntu?  The HardwareSupport wiki page doesn't list it.07:16
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DarthFrogvoltron: The net interface will be ath0.07:16
deadcatCountDown: try it07:17
ubuntui just got ubuntu07:17
ubuntuit works on this pc07:17
ubuntubut my other one did not work07:17
ubuntui think it was video issue07:17
ubuntuit has ATI All in wonder 870007:17
CountDowndeadcat: I need to buy it first, but my decision will be affected by whether or not Ubuntu runs on it.07:18
ubuntui guess i have to use some boot options07:18
ubuntuactually, it is the live cd07:18
Anubismajor update availible!07:18
CountDownAnubis: For the live CD?07:18
voltronDarthFrog, i already have restricted-modules, and it's showing up as eth007:18
deadcatanyone on ppc? apt-cache search bootsplash for me please.07:18
AnubisCountDown, no just for the Hoary install07:19
DarthFrogvoltron: That's not it.07:19
Anubisapt-get update07:19
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xeroi just installed ubuntu... does anybody know what the default root passwd is?07:19
CountDownAnubis: Indeed.07:19
DarthFrogvoltron: eth0 will be your on-board NIC.07:19
deadcatxero: none. the first user is root07:19
Anubisjust produced a whole lot of libs and what seems to be a new Firefox07:19
xerodeadcat: ?! crap07:19
deadcatxero: just sudo su -07:19
voltronDarthFrog, the onboard wired ethernet is eth107:20
xeroso, i should have made my first user be root, and then created another user?07:20
GammaRayumm no07:20
DarthFrogvoltron: is the ath_pci kernel module loaded?07:20
GammaRayxero: your default user is in sudoers w/ root privs07:20
CountDownxero: No, Ubuntu is designed not to have a root user.07:20
deadcatxero: no. the first user "timmy" would have root priv. just type sudo command and enter passwd07:20
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thullyOK - well, I guess I'll see how it goes w/ a second generation ipod mini...07:21
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xerois that ok security wize?07:21
deadcatxero: yes07:21
xeroi want this to be secure'07:21
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xerook07:21
deadcatxero: nothing is secure.07:21
xerohaha07:21
speedy2782How do I install Java runtime into firefox under hoary?07:21
voltronDarthFrog, oh, it wasn't, it is now. still eth1.07:21
DarthFrogvoltron: And do you now have an ath0?07:22
xerook so, if i get this straight, my user has root prevliges, hwoever the only way i can use them is to sudo su - to get them?07:22
voltronDarthFrog, no07:22
GammaRayxero: and you have to type your password07:22
DarthFrogvoltron: Strange.07:22
GammaRayxero: so have a good one07:22
deadcatxero: no. "sudo command" to run the command as root. if you want the root prompt. sudo su -07:22
touchHi there, is it possible to install ubuntu from floppy boot?07:22
DarthFrogvoltron: Run dmesg, see if there is anything there that looks like a problem.07:23
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da_bon_bonspeedy2782: www.ubuntuguide.com07:23
deadcatsomebody apt-cache search bootsplash for me PLEASE07:23
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da_bon_bondeadcat: why do u need bootsplash ?07:24
deadcatda_bon_bon: on my ibook07:24
dazed|hey can someone please help...i just upgraded from warty to hoary on my laptop and now its only picking up 640x480 screen resoloution and its only displaying in the top left corner of my screen can someone PLEASE help!?07:25
deadcatdazed|: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-x<tab><tab>07:25
crimsundeadcat: you didn't answer my questions07:26
crimsunerr, sorry07:26
crimsundazed|: you didn't answer my questions07:26
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stubAnyone know what size your swap partition needs to be to support suspend-to-disk? =RAM? >RAM? or is <RAM able to work?07:26
touchmy laptop cannot boot with CD-ROM I have07:26
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dazed|crimsun: i got kicked off of xchat didnt read em07:26
crimsun01:14 < crimsun> dazed_: please tell us more about your configuration, what you were doing prior, etc.07:26
neighborleeis anyone else seeing xchat in preview release being a bit crashy ? ( that or i hit quit button accidentily lol)07:26
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deadcatsomeone open a prompt and type "apt-cache search bootsplash" and tell me if it returns anything please... help a brother out.07:27
ellsis anyone having any issues playing mp3s in linux thru xmms07:27
odysseyneighborlee, no, no issues07:27
da_bon_bonhey, is there anyway to get bootsplah under ubuntu ? without recompiling the kernel ? even deadcat needs it :)07:27
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dazed|crimsun: i was doing nothing just playing on warty figured id update to hoary and i finished setting up packages and then i restarted and booted up hoary and it did that07:28
deadcatdazed|: i want the packages. i got the kernel part done.07:28
da_bon_bondazed|: whats the problem ?07:28
icebalmwha, whole new build of xorg07:28
dazed|deadcat: it said /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: xserver-x is not installed07:28
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dazed|da_bon_bon: i just upgraded from warty to hoary on my laptop and now its only picking up 640x480 screen resoloution and its only displaying in the top left corner of my screen07:29
deadcatdazed|: xserver-x<tab><tab> to complete. try . /etc/bash_completions then run that command again07:29
neighborleeodyssey, hm maybe I quit accidentily then07:29
ciphernauthi07:29
neighborleehow bout any reports of flakey behavior with preview release and using reiserfs ??07:29
ciphernautwhere can I find information about packages for ubuntu?07:29
deadcatciphernaut: /topic07:30
da_bon_bondazed|: apt-get remove xserver-xfree8607:30
dazed|deadcat: i hit tab and it doesnt finish it off.... and what are u telilng me about /etc/bash_completions07:30
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deadcatdazed|: source that file. it will help you complete the tabs07:30
dazed|da_bon_bon... what are u having me do?07:30
deadcatda_bon_bon: did you help me do a search yet?07:31
da_bon_bondazed|: remove the older X server07:31
dazed|deadcat: sorry me is a newb still i dont know what u mean by source that07:31
da_bon_bondeadcat: u will need to recompile the kernel07:31
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dazed|da_bon_bon it says pacage is not installed so not removed07:32
deadcatda_bon_bon: ya. but there are splash utils. are they in .deb?07:32
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deadcatdazed|: "source /etc/bash_completions", then run the dpkg command07:32
da_bon_bondazed|: xorgconfig07:32
dazed|no such file or directory /etc/bash_completions deadcat07:33
deadcatdazed|: forget it then07:33
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dazed|da_bon_bon it through out a bunch of stuff but i cant read it all cuz it displays lower then what shows on my screen07:33
dazed|through=threw*07:33
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da_bon_bondazed|: press CTRL-ALT-F1 and u will get a text console. then do xorgconfig07:34
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ciphernautdeadcat: i found http://higgs.djpig.de/ubuntu/www/ on  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FrontPage but it appears dead07:36
dazed|da_bon_bon: what is the vertical sync range lol???07:37
da_bon_bondazed|: read ur monitor manual07:37
dazed|i dont have one its a laptop07:37
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sean__anyone get gkrellm working in worty?07:38
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julkiefor spanish help.. what channel?07:39
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da_bon_bondazed|: then the default one will do07:39
dazed|da_bon_bon i have no idea what im doing lol07:39
ciphernautdoes ubuntu have packages for freeradius and vserver-util?07:40
da_bon_bondazed|: if xorgxonfig dont work then try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg07:40
dlejulkie: #ubuntu-es07:40
julkietanks!07:40
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dledon't machine-gun it.07:41
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da_bon_bonhow do i set my default browser in kde to firefox ?07:43
R0bNycmplayer sources?07:44
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dazed|da_bon_bon i configured it a bunch and its still only showing up in the left hand corner after i hit ctrl+alt+f7 to get out out of full screen terminal07:45
dazed|oh i got it07:46
dazed|everything is good to go now07:46
da_bon_bondazed|: u need to restart x07:47
underlordis linux-k7 the best kernel image for a amd athlon xp in hoary?07:47
honeunderlord: yeah or custom07:48
dazed|lol i figured that07:49
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tony_Having trouble getting Xmms and Realplayer to work on hoary. all updates applied, system is G3 Pismo. Both RP and XMMS start, but hang without making a sound. Any ideas anyone?07:53
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jsgotangcoblah reboot07:53
odysseyreboot?07:54
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dazed|with new hoary release is it a new cursor or is it just my immagination07:54
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da_bon_bondazed|: hoary uses the useless defualt X cursors which are very ugly07:55
dazed|cuz its only the preview not the full version?07:56
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streetbmxi saw a set of ubuntu cursors on gnome-look, they shoudl use those07:57
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da_bon_bondazed|: no. even warty had those ugly cursors as far as i remember07:59
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pepsiwill the 32 bit version of ubuntu work on amd64?08:00
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Haydenthe 64bit version will08:00
pepsibut will the 32 bit version?08:00
Boomstickzthe 32 bit version will work on a amd6408:00
pepsiok08:00
Boomstickzworks perfectly fine08:01
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ParsivalAnyone here using hoary on PPC?08:03
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edlangto whit, from debian: ``fucked: mozilla-firefox''08:04
streetbmxmy screen goes black then i try to restart x/logout/switch between consoles with fglrx driver. can anyone help, please?08:04
edlangwhen is it going to work again? when's dinstall run?08:04
edlangoh woo, it unfucked itself. looks like I spoke to soon. sorry.08:04
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linuxboywhere can i find info on the ubuntu kernel ?08:08
crimsunlinuxboy: what sort of info?08:08
linuxboycrimsun: the ubuntu changes08:09
crimsunlinuxboy: zless /usr/share/doc/linux-image-$(uname -r)/changelog.Debian.gz08:09
linuxboy:)08:09
speedy2782I "installed" java. But I am having problems actually getting it to work in firefox08:09
speedy2782is there more steps to getting it to work with websites08:09
crimsunspeedy2782: did you follow /wiki/RestrictedFormats?08:09
speedy2782I am not sure, I used the directions from java, but there were for mozilla08:10
speedy2782and I also went through the formums but that didn't turn anything up08:10
crimsunspeedy2782: did you create the symlink in the proper directory?08:10
speedy2782oh, I don't know what that is08:10
speedy2782I went and edited some stuff using gedit08:11
crimsunspeedy2782: ok, what have you done thus far?08:11
speedy2782I dl the .bin from the java, and run a lot of commands08:11
speedy2782Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_02-b09)08:12
crimsunspeedy2782: and in what directory did you run it?08:12
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crimsun(hmm, update 2? I need to update then.)08:12
speedy2782I am not sure08:13
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jsgotangcoahhh the road to hoary...08:17
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xerodoes anybody know how to get debian packages to come up in synaptic?08:29
xerodo i have to add stuff to repositories?08:29
speedy2782I believe so08:30
deFryskuniverse and muliverse08:31
deFryskmultiverse08:31
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MyNameIsChrisWhere can I apt a Java vm plugin for Firefox?08:36
MyNameIsChrisIn Warty08:37
crimsunMyNameIsChris: /wiki/RestrictedFormats08:37
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MyNameIsChriscrimsun, sun-j2re1.5debian?08:42
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quaruptYO08:43
MyNameIsChrisquarupt, yo08:43
crimsunMyNameIsChris: sure, or you can do it manually like I just walked speedy2782 through.08:43
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MyNameIsChriscrimsun: I am rather lazy, thanks for the help though08:43
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quaruptWhy does ATI even have a channel, they are never there allways IDLE08:44
crimsunwell, you might want to regard the time of day08:45
crimsunit is 0745 GMT08:45
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Gpl_Sourcehi all :)08:46
quaruptMan, there sure is allot od updates coming in for it being so close to the release date08:46
crimsunoh don't worry, you're being spoiled.08:46
Gpl_Sourcesomeone tell me a good blog server please08:46
quaruptcrimsun, what ya mean?08:47
crimsunquarupt: before the release, it will slow _considerably_08:47
MyrttiI hate OpenOffice. I made a calculation of my own with the function off the book, and then used FV()-function of OO, and the numbers differ... I need alcohol08:47
crimsunthen you'll be complaining about it not being updated enough! ;-08:47
crimsunP08:48
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quaruptwell i just thought being what a week away from the release, that it would be pretty much done and ready08:48
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MyNameIsChriscrimsun, Okay, that package is unworkable. What else would you suggest?08:49
quaruptI wanna hard copy of rute or at least an Ebook or a PDF08:49
crimsunMyNameIsChris: ask speedy2782 which set of instructions he used08:49
lagCiscoi just installed hoary, got into the X login screen, logged, nothing showed up on screen, so i reboot into recovery/safety mode, updated and ran dist-upgrade, same problem, after i log in, nothing is on screen, just the pointer, cant even get to a shell08:49
crimsunlagCisco: pressed ctrl+alt+F1 ?08:49
MyNameIsChriscrimsun, What does the deb command do?08:50
quaruptMyNameIsChris, man deb08:50
crimsunMyNameIsChris: "the deb command"?08:50
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MyNameIsChrisAs in "deb http://ubuntu.tower-net.de/ubuntu/ warty java"08:50
kagouhi08:50
lagCiscoCtl-alt-f1 didnt take me to the shell either08:50
MyNameIsChriskagou, Hi08:50
lagCiscotried all the F keys08:51
MyNameIsChrisDoesn't seem to exist08:51
quaruptif ctl alt del didnt take you to a shell than you have problems08:51
crimsunMyNameIsChris: that's not a command08:51
MyNameIsChrisI know08:51
crimsunMyNameIsChris: that's a line you append to /etc/apt/sources.list08:51
quaruptare you thinking dpkg?08:51
crimsunMyNameIsChris: man 5 sources.list08:52
MyNameIsChrisIt is in the same style as terminal examples at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java08:52
quaruptIm bored08:52
quaruptI wanna learn how to write shell scripts08:52
crimsunquarupt: tldp.org, then :-)08:52
lagCiscowhat can I do to fix these problems quarupt?08:52
quaruptlagCisco, I have only been using Linux for like 2 Years, this distro like 3 Months08:53
crimsunlagCisco: is the mouse cursor frozen?08:53
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quaruptcrimsun, When i click a pdf link it doent do anything?08:55
crimsunquarupt: dpkg -l evince|grep ^ii08:56
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MyNameIsChrisCan I upgrade just one repo08:56
MyNameIsChris*update08:56
crimsun"repo" referring to...?08:56
MyNameIsChrisRather than resynv every package list just one08:57
MyNameIsChris*resync08:57
crimsunlike one line from /etc/apt/sources.list?08:57
quaruptroot@Quar:/home/quar #  dpkg -l evince|grep ^ii08:57
quaruptNo packages found matching evince.08:57
MyNameIsChrisYes please08:57
crimsunit's a bad idea, because you'll break dependencies08:57
crimsunquarupt: hoary/universe?08:57
quaruptyup08:57
quarupti have the acroread plugin installed08:58
MyNameIsChrishistory -c08:58
quaruptfor mozilla-firefox08:58
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MyNameIsChrisOops08:58
crimsunquarupt: try evince08:58
MyNameIsChrisXChat made itself the active window08:58
quaruptwhats evince?08:58
crimsunquarupt: apt-cache show evince08:58
MyNameIsChrisBad is it possible?08:58
MyNameIsChris*But08:58
crimsunMyNameIsChris: yes08:58
MyNameIsChrisBut stupid?08:59
Myrttivery08:59
quaruptdoes it have a plugin for firefox?08:59
mario8723HI all08:59
Myrttifoolish, selfdistructive, a bomb waiting to explode08:59
mario8723Question for anybody that has KDE on their Ubuntu desktop right now...09:00
mario8723And Hoary09:00
Myrttigo ahead, spill it. I have gnome, but you'll not get very far if you don't ask09:01
mario8723lol09:01
mario8723How the hell do you install it?09:01
trans_errmario8723:09:01
quaruptcrimsun, okay no its something wrong with my browser, cause when i click a file instead of trying to DL it just opens a blank web page with the filename in the address bar09:01
Myrttiinstall what09:01
mario8723I've tried just KDE, I've tried kubuntu-desktop09:01
trans_errapt-get install kubuntu-desktop09:02
quarupthttp://www.icon.co.za/~psheer/rute.pdf.bz209:02
mario8723I just keep getting unresolved dependecies09:02
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mario8723Tried that09:02
mario8723kdepim is an unresolved dependecy and won't install09:02
trans_errmario8723: its actually kind of broken right now09:02
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trans_errmario8723: there is a fix-- go to #kubuntu09:02
mario8723I'm trying to look on the forums but don't see any How To or any advice on it09:02
quaruptHow can a file be pdf.bz2.pdf?09:03
trans_errmario8723: but i swear its done: http://filebox.vt.edu/users/benoist/digital1.png09:03
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mario8723Sounds like a plan09:03
wardeadwhats the "alsaconf" command for ubunutu?09:03
ia1is there a module that provides the files in /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build/include ?09:03
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quaruptwhat am i supposed to open a file that is pdf.bz2.pdf?09:03
crimsunwardead: removed, because it's fairly ineffectual and poses a security risk.09:03
wardeadah k09:04
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trans_errQuazion: its probably misnamed09:04
crimsunwardead: unless you have an ISA sound card, you shouldn't need it anyhow.09:04
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MyNameIsChrisThat was quicker than last time09:05
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wardeadhmm is my soundcard supossed to be autoconfigured?09:06
trans_errwardead: try alsaconf09:06
ian__wardead: yes09:06
crimsunwardead: well, what is your sound card?09:06
wardeadSound blaster live (emu10k1)09:06
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crimsuntrans_err: Ubuntu removed alsaconf for two major reasons: ineffective and security hole09:06
trans_errcrimsun: oops09:07
crimsunwardead: lsmod|grep ^emu10k109:07
crimsunwardead: and, lsmod|grep ^snd_emu10k109:07
lagCiscoi just installed hoary, got into the X login screen, logged, nothing showed up on screen, so i reboot into recovery/safety mode, updated and ran dist-upgrade, same problem, after i log in, nothing is on screen, just the pointer, cant even get to a shell09:07
lagCiscomy cursor is not frozen09:08
lagCiscoi can move it09:08
wardeaddoesn't list anything09:08
wardeadbrb reboot09:08
lagCiscoclicking either button doesnt do anything09:08
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ian__looking for a .deb that provides module include files09:09
crimsunian__: linux-headers-$(uname -r)09:09
ian__crimsun: does that include /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build/include ?09:10
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crimsunian__: it creates the valid symlink /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build, yes09:10
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ian__great.  thank you09:10
mario8723Hey crimsun09:11
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crimsunhi mario872309:12
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mario8723Quick question regarding the situation I'm having with my onboard sound09:14
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mario8723I just purchased a Soundblaster Live 24-bit card09:14
MyNameIsChrisAnd it turns out the download is too large, poor Chris09:14
mario8723I can just pop it in and it will be reckognized?09:14
MyNameIsChrisI guess some people were never meant to ban online09:14
MyNameIsChris*bank09:15
garrutwow, "there are 85 updates available"09:15
garrut...09:15
garrut85 in one night?09:15
crimsun(XOrg)09:15
deFryskkde09:15
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deFrysk3.4final09:15
crimsunmario8723: which Sound Blaster Live 24-bit?09:16
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crimsunthe 7.1? (please say no)09:16
mario8723Oh boy09:16
mario8723Yes, lol09:16
mario8723Haven't opened it yet and still have the receipt09:16
mario8723Guess that's a good thing09:16
crimsunyes, it does work, but you'll need to compile 'alsa-source' from universe.09:16
mario8723Oh okay09:16
mario8723That I don't mind09:17
crimsunit uses the snd-ca0106 driver.09:17
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crimsunhowever, it is a fairly crippled sound card09:17
mario8723How so?09:17
jsgotangcowhy do i get the feeling that 2.6.10-5-686 is screwing up my network09:17
crimsunit lacks many of the features of the original sblive09:17
kbittydoes ubuntu support a intel ethernet express 8/16 lan card?09:17
MyNameIsChrismario8723, I have 5.1 and 2.1 of them work in Ubuntu. All 6 work in Fedora09:17
mario8723What would you recommend I do?09:17
crimsunmario8723: up to you. If sound's important, install the sblive 24-bit. It does work.09:18
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pepsihow do i get a package to stop being marked for upgrade?09:18
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crimsunpepsi: sudo aptitude hold <packages>09:18
heatxsinkanyone in here know where I can get the nvidia xv libraries?09:18
crimsunheatxsink: ...you don't? They support the Xv extension natively.09:19
mario8723But you're saying that it isn't going to support the 7.1? (which I could care less about anyway since I don't have a 7.1 installed)09:19
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tyler_Hey ubuntites, Im trying to reinstall liblrdf0 using synaptic because it is broken but i come up with this msg09:20
tyler_E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libcurl2_7.12.0.is.7.11.2-1_i386.deb:  trying to overwrite `/usr/share/curl/curl-ca-bundle.crt', which is also in package libcurl309:20
crimsunmario8723: it _does_ support the card you just bought.09:20
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mario8723k09:20
freexhello world09:20
mario8723Just as long as I have sound, lol09:21
tyler_you've made your first program freex09:21
mario8723I only spend $25 on the card anyway09:21
freexhehehe, not yet but am very eager to get my hands with ubuntu09:21
crimsunmario8723: I've helped a couple people get that card working, please search the forum/u-u mailing list archive09:21
mario8723Will do09:22
mario8723Thanks again09:22
crimsunmario8723: (it uses the same driver as the audigy 2 zs)09:22
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tyler_nice, yes I've learnt more about computers using ubuntu for a month than I have using windows for 10 ears09:22
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crimsuntyler_: great :-)09:22
mario8723tyler: I couldn't agree more!09:22
tyler_Yeah, I agree, its nerlingeringly exciting09:22
freexcan i ask a question, is there an online update also for ubuntu?09:23
tyler_yes. Us apt get09:23
tyler_check out www.ubuntuguide.org09:24
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mario8723I think I'm just going to return the card09:25
deFryskmario8723, get the cheapest card available, they always work09:25
cvalstadanybody know where I can find a guide on how to install the DWL 122 usb wireless adapter for PPC Ubuntu?09:26
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freexic, poor me, i have no idea how to use apt get, is there a site that could help me?09:26
mario8723TJat09:26
mario8723That's what I'm reading09:26
mario8723I'll just get the 5.1 card09:27
tyler_cvalstad, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-4041.html09:27
mario87237.1 and Ubuntu just don't seem to like each other09:27
cvalstadthanks09:28
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deFryskfreex, http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/index.en.html  (free from google)09:28
tyler_google :)09:28
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mario8723crimsun: Would you say that's a fair assesment?09:29
jeff__can someone help me please. software on my comp is dropping outgoing packages09:29
crimsunmario8723: sorry, I'm busy in another window. What assessment?09:29
mario8723That 7.1 and Ubuntu don't like each other09:30
jeff__how can i find out which one09:30
freexthank you for that, i just bookmark it09:30
mario8723Or maybe Linux in general09:30
deFryskfreex, thank/use google09:30
crimsunmario8723: the 7.1 _does_ work09:30
MyNameIsChrisHold on, it is possible to connect to my computer although my Dad's machine is the gateway. Firestarter just registered an event09:31
mario8723If you say it works, then that's good enough for me09:31
jeff__can someone help me please. software on my comp is dropping outgoing packages09:31
mario8723I know that you are knowledgable in this area...09:31
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mario8723I may need some help at some point getting it going though09:31
crimsunmario8723: remember, you'll need to compile the 'alsa-source' package from universe.09:31
mario8723Right09:31
mario8723brb09:32
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jeff__can someone help me please. software on my comp is dropping outgoing packages09:33
crimsunjeff__: how did you assess that?09:33
jeff__well, netselect-apt gives me an error about not being able to traceroute09:34
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jeff__and azerus cannot upload09:34
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jeff__and i know that my firewall is configured correctly09:35
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sabercan anyone point me to a document to setup vnc? or some way of accessing X from Windows09:35
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saberSearching google is taking me in circles09:36
jeff__someone told me to use tcpdump. but i cant tell exactly whats going on.09:37
crimsunsaber: warty or hoary?09:38
saberwarty, crimsun09:38
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crimsunjeff__: do you know for sure that your firewall and ISP don't block pings?09:39
jeff__i know for certian.09:39
jeff__it worked for other os'es09:39
crimsunsaber: try the Remote Desktop tool09:39
crimsunjeff__: so ,,ping www.yahoo.com'' fails?09:39
saberi've used that, but when i connect in windows, i get a black screen09:40
crimsunsaber: what client are you using to connect?09:40
saberthe free one provided by realvnc.com09:40
jeff__crimsun,  it works09:40
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crimsunjeff__: so obviously your computer's not dropping _those_ outgoing packets ;-)09:41
jeff__true09:41
crimsunsaber: try http://www.tightvnc.org/download.html09:42
saberok09:42
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crimsunsaber: I've connected to Warty and Hoary machines using the development version (1.3dev6)09:42
saberalright09:43
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jeff__Crimsun, this is the error i get09:45
jeff__netselect was unable to find a mirror, this probably means that09:45
jeff__you are behind a firewall and it is blocking traceroute.09:45
crimsunjeff__: why are you using netselect?09:46
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crimsunjeff__: the default repos are sufficient for you09:46
jnoonanyone know how to connect to a wireless network with WPA-PSK?09:47
jeff__well im on debian and ftp,debian.org is too slow09:47
crimsunjeff__: wait...I thought you were using Ubuntu...09:47
jeff__sorry :(09:47
P3L|C4N0xD09:48
jeff__everything worked fine with ubuntu09:48
saberah.. i think there is a bug in ubutu 4.10: when you ask for prompting of vnc connections, the window that comes up is completely blank09:48
saberthat's why it wasn't working09:48
jeff__so i just need to figure out whats making the packets crap now09:48
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oz__hi all - has the nvidia driver problem been resolved in the new Hoary update?09:50
crimsunoz__: it was resolved as of -27. -28 came out yesterday.09:51
oz__thanks - if I do a apt-get dist-upgrade the nvidia drivers should be ok?09:52
crimsunupdate && dist-upgrade09:53
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oz__crimsun: thanks again - here goes nothing....09:55
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oris_wolfbanehey room10:04
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sleghello10:04
slegdoes anybody speak french ? (I can speak english but it will be easier in french ;)10:05
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pepsidid you try #ubuntu-fr?10:06
cowbudhah10:06
slegI no ! I didn't it exists10:06
cowbudpepsi: do you really think that exists?10:06
pepsino10:06
pepsii dunno10:06
pepsiit exists10:06
pepsitheres 30 people in it10:07
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cowbudwow10:07
slegok thanks, I will try10:07
GNAM-15 at hoary final.10:07
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GNAMafter hoary, gcc410:07
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bestadvocatewhat exists with 30 people in it?10:08
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GNAMwe are 363, are you identified?10:08
cowbudcrack?10:08
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slegMaybe you can help .. I have installed the hoary array6 on my new laptop dell inspiron 6000 and after the first boot (just before the logg screen) the  PC frezze (no Ctrl-alt-*** works !)10:09
GNAMauauauau10:09
bestadvocatedo you think they will revert back to the working mono package for AMD64 when hoary is officially released?10:09
GNAMc# rulez10:10
bestadvocatecause the jit package still hasent been compiled and released10:10
GNAMi need a good implementaion10:10
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skoopgood morning everyone (for those in europe)10:10
cowbudskoop: wtf is .phpbb?10:10
bestadvocategood middle of the night dude from america10:10
skoopcowbud: phpBB, the forum package?10:11
cowbud~skoop@skoop.support.phpbb10:11
skoopcowbud: thats because I'm their support team leader :)10:11
slegand when I logg in text mode, I lauch 'gdm' and it works !!!10:11
cowbudah hah10:11
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slegdoes anybody know why ?10:13
skoopanyway, I'm having a slight problem with my wife's ubuntu machine trying to install the libart-2.0-dev package using synaptic... anyone available to help me out a bit?10:13
slegdid anybody havec the same pproblem ?10:13
slegskoop : hoary or warty ?10:14
bestadvocatesleg I have yet to successfully install hoary on my laptop (and I have tried 4 diffrent Ubuntu cds , the first warty, the official warty, the first hoary and array3 )10:14
skoopwarty10:14
garrutdoes anybody know if i can get the gnome calendar to show the week# like it used to?10:15
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slegthe array6 is the only one working ! (because of my SATA CD drive)10:15
bestadvocatesleg i have an HP with a bios oddity and I believe that is the source of many of my woes.10:15
Nafallobestadvocate: what laptop is that?10:15
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bestadvocateNafallo its a Pavilion ze460010:16
skoopor maybe even easier, does anyone know if one can simply mount the Creative Zen xtra without using Gnomad2?10:16
slegknoppix3.7 has the same probleme (freeze when X starts)10:16
bestadvocateI think I remember finding the bug "resolved" in  bugzilla, but nothing has changed in the install cds.10:16
GNAMfedora core 4 test 1 RELEASED!10:17
bestadvocateI havent tried fedora since 2.10:18
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GNAMi've tried core 3 and ubuntu is way better10:18
GNAM.10:18
slegbestadvocate: thanks, I search ...10:19
bestadvocateyah.  ubuntu finally got me out of my distrowatch phase.  (in a year I had installed about 20-30 distros)10:19
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GNAMauauau10:19
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GNAMme too10:19
deFryskbestadvocate, distrohopper like me10:19
GNAMtime to stop10:20
skoopso, nobody knows a way to mount a Zen without Gnomad2?10:21
skoopit doesn't appear to get a /dev/sd* entry for some reason10:22
GNAMhttp://ubuntu.upc.es/10:22
GNAMwhat's this?10:22
bestadvocatehavent even installed a new one for months of using ubuntu though (i am too attached to synaptic) the only think thats giving me itchy feat is the urge to try out Beagle and Dashboard with AMD64 MONO and I think Specifix has it.10:23
bestadvocatesleg here is the bug that hit my laptop origionlly:  https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=235510:23
bestadvocatethats a couple of thousand bugs old :)10:24
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bestadvocatedeFrysk: one thing I never found working was an Enlightenment focused distro (most of them seem to take as long to develop releases as E1710:26
goldfishfags10:27
goldfishsorry10:27
goldfishi just need fags10:27
bestadvocateyou need a light goldfish?10:27
goldfishyeah10:27
goldfishthanks10:27
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thefishhi10:28
bestadvocatehey fish10:28
membreyaoooo big updates coming down the pipe :)10:28
slegbestadvocate: thanks, I look ...10:28
bestadvocatei need a good tutorial on grub.... google answer me that10:29
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Q-FUNKJust upgraded GNOME to 2.10 from Hoary, which is unbelievably fast compared to 2.8, but the integration of gswitchit causes problems. how do I disable it?10:32
Nermalgswitchit ?10:32
membreyaNermal: http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=gswitchit&btnG=Google+Search&meta= :P10:32
Nermalmembreya, I deserved that ;)10:33
bestadvocatereally q-funk i havent noticed any speed diffrences....10:33
slegbestadvocate: I don't think it's the same problem but I will try with acpi=off10:33
NermalI'm finding 2.10 a bit quicker.. things like menu loading and run dialog etc10:33
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bestadvocateoh never mind you upgraded from warty didnt you?10:34
bestadvocatei wouldnt have a clue.   I've been running hoary for like 2 months10:34
oris_wolfbanehey guys im running warty at the moment do you think its wise for me to upgrade to hoary?10:35
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Nafallooris_wolfbane: depends. I would probably wait til after release.10:36
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Nafallooris_wolfbane: atleast my server and my girlfriend's puter will do that :-).10:36
bestadvocateoris_wolfbane: upgrading is for the feature hungry. and venturesome still.10:37
catch-Hi just movec over from gentoo to ubuntu, and got a couple of questions, if you do an apt-get install and it has sugested packages how do you ensure that the packages are, or aren't installed?10:37
Nafalloand for contributers and developers :-)10:37
bestadvocateoris_wolfbane: but its much cooler!10:37
catch-I had a look through man but couldn't see much about it10:37
oris_wolfbanebestadvocate: much cooler how?10:37
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Burgundaviaoris_wolfbane: if you have to ask, I would recommend waiting10:38
oris_wolfbaneBurgundavia: true10:38
farruinncatch-: it isn't required that suggested packages be installed, they're just suggested10:38
skoopman, how hard can it be to install libgnome-2.0 through synaptic10:38
skoopstupid dependencies10:38
farruinncatch-: depends on the other hand must be installed10:38
farruinncatch-: www.debian.org/doc has a good APT Howto10:39
catch-farruinn ok but is there any way to get apt to install allong with the depends?10:39
catch-ok cheers10:39
bestadvocateoris_wolfbane: first no 9.0 firefox(better extensions) seccond cool new menus.  3rd easy file sharing   fourth : cause its braging rights (i got Gnome 10 so eat my shorts mr. still using 2.6)10:39
ratl3has anyone heard of debian flashing the video bios of a mac?10:40
Nafallo9.0 would be 1.0 :-(10:40
Nafallos/\(/\)/10:40
danielsratl3: no10:40
catch-also is there anyway to change the order in which services start up?10:40
Burgundaviacatch-: change the numbers10:40
Burgundaviacatch-: lower numbers start up earlier10:40
oris_wolfbanebestadvocate: oooo, gnome 10 *oris dribbels sligtly*10:40
Agrajagbestadvocate: firefox 9.0? Gnome 10?10:40
catch-where are the numbers stored?10:41
Agrajagman oh man10:41
catch-which conf file?10:41
Agrajaglet me borrow you time machine please10:41
AgrajagI want to go back in time and puch certain people10:41
bestadvocateAgrajag: ooopss guess im tired :)10:41
Agrajagpunch10:41
Nafallocatch-: ls /etc/rc*.d/ :-)10:41
catch-cheers10:42
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pepsipoop10:44
pepsi7 to 2 and 8 to 4, not 7 to 4 and 8 to 210:45
ratl3pins?10:46
topylii want to stop update-menus from creating duplicates in ~/.local. can i just change permissions on ~/local/share/applications?10:46
pepsiyeah10:46
pepsii swapped 2 wires10:46
ratl3for what?10:46
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pepsihttp://www.lancos.com/e2p/avrisp-stk200.gif10:47
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bestadvocateooooh pritty picture10:47
Aragohi all- I can't add any launcher to gnome applications menu (by mouse DX or by Nautilus). I'm using warty. Any suggestion ?10:48
bestadvocatearago: im not sure this still works but try going to aplications:/// in nautilus (sp check)10:48
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ratl3pepsi, parallel eprom programmer?10:49
Agrajagtwo ps10:49
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Aragobestadvocate, it dosn't work. I can see the new lancher there but not into panel . and nothing also after rebbot. :(10:49
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pepsiratl3, almost... its to program avr microcontrollers10:49
catch-Nafallo ok, so if I understand it right, If I change S50MYSERVIVCE to S1MYSERVICE then it will start earlyer?10:50
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Nafallocatch-: correct.10:50
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catch-Nafallo what are the differences in letters? S K etc10:51
AragoStart & Kill :)10:51
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Nafallocatch-: what Arago said :-)10:51
bestadvocatearago you used natuilus and typed in applications:/// into the address bar?10:51
quaruptwhat are some good irc clients besides X-Chat?10:51
Nafalloquarupt: irssi :-)10:51
ratl3emacs10:52
quaruptone for x10:52
ratl3heh10:52
quaruptemacs is a text editor10:52
cefok, where do I insert modelines for X in Xorg?10:52
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topyliquarupt: among other things :)10:52
bestadvocatearago i thought that worked in warty (doesnt in hoary)10:53
Nafalloquarupt: what topyli said about emacs :-)10:53
topyliquarupt: somebody said "emacs is my operating system, linux just provides the device drivers" =)10:53
catch-cheers guys10:54
Nermaltopyli, as well as "emacs is a great operating system, it just needs a decent editor.."10:54
lizanyone know if GLib is included in hoary?10:54
lizim still using warty10:54
Nermalof course10:54
topyliheh10:54
topyliNermal: use viper (the vi emulation mode) :)10:55
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ratl3there's vi for emacs?10:55
topyliviper-mode10:55
quarhrm10:55
bestadvocateratl3 and emacs for vi10:55
quarI guess Ksirc is pretty good10:55
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garrutcan i remove items from the window list in my panel?10:58
catch-how easy is it to get Ubuntu to authenticate against a windows2003 Active Directory server? Thinking about changing the cvs machine in work from gentoo to Ubuntu ...10:59
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bestadvocategarrut: like minimized programs?10:59
garrutyeah, i've got a dual monitor setup so my window list is way too crowded11:00
garruti want to remove certain items11:00
ratl3close programs?11:00
ratl3or not have them show up?11:01
Nafallocatch-: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/ActiveDirectoryHowto11:01
garrutfor example, my xchat window is always open, so i don't need it in the window list11:01
catch-cheers Nafallo11:01
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ratl3theres a notificagtion icon for xcat11:02
ratl3xchat11:02
topylitrue. it works too11:02
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Quaruptoo Lostirc is pretty nice11:03
garrutok, but there isn't one for my music player and some other windows i've always got open11:03
topylihmm. acroread 711:03
ratl3music player can go into that area too11:03
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garruti'm using gmpc11:04
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ratl3but, with the other stuff i think you can use devils own11:04
phwdoes anybody use evolution exchange integration?11:04
topyliratl3: and gaim, and tomboy and so on until the notification area looks like the windows system tray :)11:04
oris_wolfbaneratl3: were do i get this notification icon from?11:04
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garrutratl3, devils own?11:05
ratl3for x-chat?11:05
ratl3oris_wolfbane?11:05
ratl3i think that's what it's called11:05
ratl3i'm lookign around11:05
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oris_wolfbaneratl3: yeah11:06
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topyliratl3: it's unofficial, you'll have to do some googling11:06
ratl3oh, it's not in their packages11:07
ratl3sorry11:07
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QuaruptI like centericq for ssh11:07
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QuaruptHow can I make LostIRC startup with gnome?11:08
Quaruptsame with gaim11:08
ratl3oris_wolfbane, here's the system tray plugin http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=8843711:09
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tyler_What is meta ccity exactly? I have it installed, how do I use it?11:09
oris_wolfbaneQuarupt: http://ubuntuguide.org/#runprogramsstartupgnome11:09
oris_wolfbaneratl3: thanxs11:10
membreyaratl3: people are nazi's and rarely if ever compile anything for the amd64 >:(11:10
Quaruptthx oris_wolfbane11:10
ratl3tyler_, it is what creates the top of your windows11:10
ratl3membreya, on ubuntu?11:11
membreyaratl3: yup, take for example that system tray..sure I can compile it myself..but where's my deb..when's it MY turn !11:11
membreyait's like being left handed all over again >:(11:11
membreyathe man is out to keep me down11:11
tyler_ahh okay. Well how come when I download a theme it onlyu installs the controls aspect of it? not the windows borders or icons.11:12
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CastoroHi all11:12
ratl3borders and icons are seperate themes11:12
ratl3tyler_,11:12
cefwhat fun with hoary/xorg/nvidia *sigh*11:12
CastoroI'm using Udev... anyone can tell me how can i do to make my modem accessible by normal user? When i boot, i have to manually change permission to /dev/modem ...11:13
Quarupthey oris_wolfbane that page just says Computer > Desktop Preferences > Sessions         WHat does it mean by "Computer"   Cause Im not using Warty, im using Hoary?11:13
tyler_yes ralt3?11:13
membreyaQuarupt: System > Preferences > sessions11:14
Quaruptthx11:14
ratl3tyler_, borders and icons are seperate themes11:14
oris_wolfbaneQuarupt: i dunno i just rembered seeing the link in the ubuntuguide sorry11:15
ratl3where are you getting themes tyler_ ?11:15
tyler_Mm, SO there are no theme packages that do all?11:15
tyler_from gnome-look.org11:15
tyler_Mine don't look anything like the download pictures :) well the window controls do11:15
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Quaruptis there some kinda app that will allow me to add programs to minimize to the tray or just in the background? Like limewire?11:16
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ratl3well, an artist will make a metacity theme, icon them, and gtk theme to match tyler_11:16
dizzieMorning all :)11:16
membreyaanyone here using nvsound?11:17
ratl3tyler_, but most of the time they aren't included in one package11:17
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tyler_ahh, okay. I'll inspect the download site a litle more clearly.11:17
Aragobestadvocate, it dosn't work. I can see the new lancher there but not into panel . and nothing also after rebbot. :(   (try #2)11:17
Aragohi all- I can't add any launcher to gnome applications menu (by mouse DX or by Nautilus). I'm using warty. Any suggestion ? (try #2)11:17
garrutratl3, xchat and gaim are in the notification area, but when the windows are open they're also in the window list..11:17
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ratl3yah, i can't remember the correct name for that program right now11:18
ratl3i thought it was devils own11:18
garrutok, thanks11:18
membreyanoone here uses nvsound? :(11:18
dizzieas in nForce ?11:19
membreyaya dizzie11:19
dizziegot it on my mobo, but i use my audigy card11:19
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membreyadang >:(11:19
Haydenhow can i make an new user in a shell11:20
membreyaadduser? :)11:20
dizzieadduser <name>11:20
Nermaluseradd -m <username>11:20
dizzieor useradd <name>11:20
Nermal-m will give them a home dir11:20
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HaydenRoom Number [] : ?11:21
dizziejust tab return all the way11:21
dizzieand say Y in the end11:22
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Haydenok thanks11:22
dizzieyw11:22
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Haydenanother question11:22
Haydenhow can i check the names of all the other users and delete them11:23
NermalHayden, cat /etc/passwd ?11:23
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NermalHayden, and what do you mean by "other users" ?11:23
Haydenother normal users11:23
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Haydenwith a folder in /home/11:24
NermalHayden, did you not create them yourself ?11:24
Haydenno11:24
Nermalah.. yeah look in /etc/passwd11:24
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Haydenhow can i delete a user?11:24
Nermaluserdel ?11:25
scizzoHayden: sudo deluser username11:25
Nermal*unshocker*11:25
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ncpi have just installede ubuntu, and set up tightvnc. i can connect and a window starts op, but just grey backgound and nothing else, i can move the mouse but nothing happens when i click. anyone know what might be wrong?11:31
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oris_wolfbanehow do i find out were xchat puts its plugins?11:31
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scizzooris_wolfbane: cd ~/.xchat11:33
scizzooris_wolfbane: maybe?11:33
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scizzooris_wolfbane: something in there might help...11:33
scizzoor you can look at the document about where to place them11:33
scizzo:)11:33
oris_wolfbanescizoo thanks11:34
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joeblow1234Hey everyone. I was just wondering, is the Ubuntu team still planning on releasing an Enterprise version of Ubuntu with a longer release cycle?11:35
danielsjoeblow1234: no, that was never in the pipeline; longer support cycles are an option, but release cycles will stay the same11:36
joeblow1234daniels: sorry, support cycle was what i meant to say11:36
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joeblow1234I'm running CentOS right now because I want something that I can throw on my computer that isn't Windows that doesn't always change (my girlfriend doesn't like change)11:36
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joeblow1234daniels: were they just going to increase the support cycle for all of their releases or branch off an actual enterprise distro, and kind of have ubuntu as the fedora equivalent?11:37
garrutit changes because it gets better...11:38
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tyler_Are splash screens hard to set up?11:38
danielsjoeblow1234: err, ubuntu as it stands is enterprise-quality11:38
tyler_bootsplash I mean11:39
membreyatyler_: for grub or for linux itself?11:39
joeblow1234daniels: so is fedora IMO, but Red Hat still has RHEL11:39
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joeblow1234altho fedora does change quite a bit11:39
danielsjoeblow1234: iirc the difference in them is mainly support (e.g. supported architectures)11:40
tyler_mmm, linux itself.. ANd grub :)11:40
membreyaisn't rhel at a cost?11:41
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membreyatyler_: for grub it's a piece of piss11:41
garruttyler_: just copy over the current splash in /usr/share/pixmaps/splash is the easyest way11:41
joeblow1234membreya: sort of, im running CentOS which is RHEL with Red Hat's trademarks removed, it is free11:41
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membreyafor linux itself it requires a recompilation of the kernel IIRC11:41
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tyler_but Ahh okay. I'll try that. How about during boot for linux?11:42
membreyaread above tyler_ :)11:42
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bestadvocateooo i have to try my first ever hand edited grub configuration11:43
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tyler_I'll try above.11:43
bestadvocate(i wonder if i broke a debconf)11:43
membreyatyler_: http://sleepybuddha.sl.funpic.de/ubuntu/11:43
membreyathat's for grub11:43
Gandalfarhow to install ubuntu from usb stick?11:44
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sicanyone have any luck with faad2 plugin for xmms?11:47
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scizzoGandalfar: you still need something to boot from11:50
Gandalfarscizzo: I have usb stick?11:50
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scizzoGandalfar: can the bios boot from it?11:51
Gandalfarscizzo: yes11:51
Haydencrimsun, i was feeling ambitious and upgraded debian to ubuntu lol11:51
Gandalfarscizzo: I just don't want to bother with connecting cdrom drive to my box11:51
mgedminanyone here running Ubuntu on a T42?11:52
mgedminI have both the "high ACPI sleep power drain", and the "noisy fan always on" problems11:52
scizzoGandalfar: well you still need the bios to boot from the usbstick and then tell the install to install from the stick11:53
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Nermalanyone else having problems downloading in firefox11:54
Gandalfarscizzo: how do I create bootable ubuntu usb stick?11:54
Nermalit seems to refuse to download stuff :|11:54
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scizzoGandalfar: good question ... :)11:54
Gandalfarscizzo: I only see huge ubuntu cds .. no small netinstall ones11:54
Nermaljust select folder, hit ok and sodall happens11:55
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catch-hrm... my man pages tend to have a lot of a's with ^ on them, anyone have and idea why or how to "fix" this?11:57
Nermaldon't use putty ? :)11:58
catch-how do i connect to my remote machine from work then? ;)11:58
mgedmincatch-, switch the character set to UTF-811:58
mgedminputty supports that11:58
Nermal:)11:59
catch-ahh ok will try now :) Thanks11:59
CastoroIs there a script somewhere that automatically change the routing table (or at least, bring down eth0) when starting a modem calling ?11:59
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catch-mgedmin sorry I was thining that was an option in putty config, gone through and not found one, I checked the "Window - Translation - Recieved data assumed to be in which character set" and couldn't see it, did you mean an option in putty or a setting on the system?12:01
catch-sorry just found it ...12:01
mgedminCastoro, perhaps adding replacedefaultroute to /etc/ppp/options would help you?12:01
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Castoromgedmin, i'm looking, thx :)12:02
mgedmincatch-, putty12:02
mgedminI assumed your system sends UTF-8 data12:02
mgedminputty did have UTF-8 in that list last time I checked it12:02
catch-ahh got lots of squares now instead12:02
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mgedminuh oh12:02
catch-how do i find out what my system is using:12:02
mgedmincatch-, type 'locale charmap'12:03
catch-hrm ... it is UTF-812:03
mgedminbut "lots of squares" smells like a bad font to me12:03
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warthawgcan i add hoary repositories to my synaptic list?12:03
mgedminwhat font do you use in Putty?  if it is Terminal or Fixedsys, or Courier, I guess it simply doesn't have those characters12:04
catch-normal text is alright, i think it might be something like tabs or bold or something along those lines12:04
mgedmintry Courier New or (my favourite) Andale Mono12:04
IlixHi, I installed ubuntu recently, though I can't open any of the system configuration applets. I have activated the root acount, and I'm sure I type the correct password when it prompts me.12:05
IlixIs there something I've missed?12:05
warthawgcan i add hoary to my sources like adding unstable to debian?12:06
Nermalhmmm12:06
Nermalfirefox is still refusing to save files :|12:06
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warthawghello sic in austin12:07
belohello12:07
sicmornin12:07
Haydenhow can i setup a shared samba folder for my apache www directory?12:08
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niranif i have some text in a console, is there any way i can write what's already on screen to a file?12:09
catch-mgedmin I've done a google, but can't see how to change the terminal fonts, any chance of a pointer in the right direction? Is it a line in .bashrc? or something else?12:10
sicniran, you could highlight it and then paste it in a text file in your home12:10
mgedmincatch-, putty configuration12:10
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niransic: it's an actual console, not a terminal window12:10
catch-nermal, yeah, I've been noticing that under windows too :( Been having to right click save as12:10
sicniran, ahh..so outside of gnome then12:11
niranyeah.12:11
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warthawgevery time i try to install something with synaptic, it just disappears12:11
warthawgit goes away12:11
mgedminniran, you can get mouse selection if you install gpm12:11
warthawgit shuts down12:11
warthawgit becomes invisible12:11
mgedmin(careful: sometimes gpm and X start to battle over the mouse device)12:12
belocan u guys tell me why firefox still shows some wierd characters when Im browsing CE-coded pages. Ive set the character encoding to CentralEuropean12:12
IlixWhen I try running Synapitc package manager, all I get is an error "Child terminated with 1 status", could anyone please help me?12:12
mgedminniran, also, you can cat /dev/vcs1 > somefile.txt12:12
Nermalcatch-, aye :|12:12
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mgedminreplace 1 with the number of a virtual console12:12
niranmgedmin: that's what i was looking for :)12:12
niranlemme see if it works12:12
BurgundaviaIlix: I think that is wrong password12:13
sicmgedmin, would that put the entire buffer into a file?12:13
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niranmgedmin: success12:13
IlixBurgundavia: I don't tink so, I've checked the pasword, it works when I change to su in a terminal.12:13
catch-mgedmin I'm on courier new, ahh well just one of those problems i guess... :) Thanks anyway :)12:13
belois it because the missing fonts?12:14
mgedminsic, that puts 80*25 characters (with no newlines at the end of each line) to a text file12:14
IlixBurgundavia: oh, it works with my regular user password :S12:14
IlixBurgundavia Well, thanks anyway, I should of thought of trying that pass.12:15
mgedminsadly, there's no way to access the scrollback buffer :-/12:15
warthawgubuntu is very very strange12:15
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BurgundaviaIlix: ubuntu uses sudo by default. Whenever it asks your for a password, it is asking for yours12:18
Burgundaviawarthawg: what do you mean?12:18
warthawgBurgundavia:  i mean permissions, and trying to run synaptic and having it disappear, and installing with apt-get and then getting "not found"12:18
IlixBurgundavia: aha, thanks!12:19
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beloXlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0"12:19
beloI don't understand it12:20
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pregoWhich is the best filesystem for a ubuntu install? I'm using reiserfs but I'm not sure if I should have used ext312:21
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Burgundaviawarthawg: huh?12:22
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bzozulahow do I run mythfrontend as an ordinary user.  I can only run it sudo?12:22
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sicwould anyone mind looking at my fstab in a pm?12:23
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warthawgBurgundavia:  my sentiments exactly.  i install gcc with apt-get, because synaptic disappears, and it installs, and then when i try to use gcc, it says its not there12:23
Burgundaviawarthawg: install build-essentials12:23
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Burgundaviawarthawg: that will get you all you need to develop packages12:23
=== thefish is getting ugly errors with the hoary liveCD - it gets to the language selection and hangs hard. there seemed to be a usb error, but cannot see it now (keyboard also hung)
thefishtried with noapic and nolapic12:24
Burgundaviawarthawg: I assume you are running hoary?12:24
warthawgBurgundavia: thanks for that tip, i just tried, and synaptic crashes, disappears when i try to mark for install12:24
Burgundaviawarthawg: do a backtrace and post a bug12:25
warthawgBurgundavia:  no, i installed warty, how do i install hoary?12:25
warthawgjust download a different iso?12:25
Burgundaviawarthawg: warty=stable hoary=unstable12:25
Burgundaviahoary is synced off debian sid12:25
warthawgBungundavia:  so i can just add hoary to my sorces?12:25
Burgundaviawarthawg: if you don't mind running an unstable distro, change all mention of warty to hoary in /etc/apt/sources.lst12:27
membreyaunstable?12:27
warthawgBurgundavia:  thanks for your help, i will give that a shot12:27
warthawgtho i have to admit i am more partial to the warty name :)12:27
deFryskunstable= untested12:27
Burgundaviamembreya: one that they are doing active development on12:28
membreyaseems stable enough for me + less than a month till the final is released12:28
CurinirI have a question regarding locales that I cannot find the answer to on the ubuntulinux.org/support/. I am using Hoary, and using no_NO.UTF-8 as my locale. But for a couple of months ago, my week started to begin on sunday, instead of monday as it does here in Norway. `locale -c -k LC_TIME` reveals first_weekday=1 and first_workday=1 including abday="sn;man;tir;ons;tor;fre;lr" ("sn" = sunday). Any suggestions?12:28
pregomembreya, you need also a good internet connection to keep up to date12:28
membreyaplus getting updates daily makes me feel loved :)12:28
Nermalhmm12:28
Nermalthis firefox issue is going to piss me off12:28
membreyaprego: ..got cable :)12:28
NermalI can save files with right click and save as, but not by clicking on them and doing "save here"12:28
pregomembreya, then hoary it is for you ;-)12:28
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pregoNermal, epyphany ??12:29
Nermalerm.. no ?12:30
membreyai wish gaim would hurry up and release webcam capabilities (and no I don't wanna run gaim-vv)12:30
Nermalbesides it being a pile of shit ..12:30
pregoNermal, I'm suggessting you gave epyphany a try :-) Now uses firefox as rendering engine instead of mozilla12:30
membreyaisn't firefox mozilla?12:30
Nermalhmmm12:30
NermalI'm more interested as to why its not working12:31
pregomembreya, not exactly12:31
Nermalfirefox is the web browser component of mozilla12:31
BurgundaviaNermal: that is a known issue12:31
Nermaltweaked12:31
Burgundaviaseveral people of commented on it12:31
NermalBurgundavia, hurrah12:31
membreyaI like my galeon :)12:31
Nermalfirefox or ubuntu issue ? :)12:31
thefishNermal, why would you choose ubu over another distro?12:31
Burgundaviaubuntu12:31
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Nermalthefish, reliable, ease of updates / installing new software /12:32
Nermaland hoary for very up to date software12:32
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pregothefish, as far as I know, because of speed and somehow simplicity12:32
Nermalno rpm hell or degrading ebuilds12:32
membreyais grumpy released for public consumption yet? :)12:33
Burgundaviamembreya: no12:33
pregoalso large amount of software available at universe/multiverse repositories12:33
Burgundaviamembreya: post hoary12:33
membreyathat's what I thought :)12:33
thefishi like the "not more than 6 months behind" but i want to keep my skills server oriented, ubu seems much more desktop12:33
thefishplease prove me wrong...12:34
membreyaisn't that the way linux wants to head thefish ? :)12:34
pregothefish, ubu is same server capable than debian, AFAIK12:34
Nermalthefish, I suppose just booting the install with "server" will give you a server installation12:34
thefishprego, i agree, but debian is a black sheep in some companies12:34
Nermalmmmm... sheep12:34
thefishhehe12:34
Myrttimmmm meat12:34
membreyacountry boy Nermal ? :P12:35
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Myrttioh?12:35
Myrttiit is?12:35
MyrttiI doubt it12:35
cefit's not12:35
membreyawe're a clever bunch thefish :P12:35
danielsthefish: it's not; some of our team are australian (myself and jeff waugh)12:35
pregothefish, I don't see debian/ubuntu in a company unless the machiness have access to internet. Perhaps I am wrong12:35
cefthere is a lot of aussies working on it though12:35
danielscef: only two on the distro team :)12:35
cefdaniels: true.. but jeff is like 1/4 of the distro *grin*12:36
membreyajeff waugh..any relation to steve? sorry..couldn't help myself12:36
danielsthere are a few more canonical employees than that, though (eight out of a bit less than 50)12:36
pregothefish, probaly a company prefers "closed" installs as SuSE for instance...12:36
danielsmembreya: just as long as there no jokes about declaring waugh with our reifells12:36
danielsmembreya: and having been warned12:36
thefishprego, "closed installs" please explain?12:36
membreyalol :P12:36
Nermalits south african surely12:37
Nermalas mark shuttleworth is12:37
pregothefish, having a DVD with all the software and repeating same install on several machines, ...12:37
thefishyes ok12:37
cefdaniels: btw: weird thing.. this lappy won't do 60 Hz it seems.. 59 Hz is fine, 60 = no go12:37
pregothefish, probably this is possible in ubuntu, but I'm not aware of it.12:37
sicWhat I am trying to do: two local hdds one is ext3 and one is NTFS. They are both mounted in fstab.  I need to copy everything from the NTFS partition to the ext3 partition on the other hdd.  It copies some files but locks up.  Any ideas?12:37
Burgundaviaofficial, canonical is isle of man and thus so is ubuntu12:37
membreya49Hz? :| odd :P12:37
cefdaniels: so I cooked up a custom modeline and put it in xorg's config12:38
danielsubuntu doesn't have any real distinct nationality.  the name obviously has african heritage, but we have people all over the world (both canonical-sponsored and non-canonical-sponsored) in more or less every timezone, so it's pretty much international.12:38
Nermalsic, boot with noapic pci=noacpi12:38
danielsadded to that, all the canonical people work from home, sooo ...12:38
pregosic, make sure ntfs is mounted read only, anyway12:38
cefnot 49, 59.. just under 6012:38
danielscef: hmmm ... does bumping up your horizsync range by two fix that?12:38
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danielsbecause that is an UTTERLY SICK HACK12:38
cefdaniels: I'll give it a go soon..12:38
membreyacef: you know what I meant :P12:38
sicprego, Nermal, : proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       012:39
sic/dev/hda1       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       112:39
sic/dev/hda5       none            swap    sw              0       012:39
sic/dev/hdb1       /home/sic/mp3   ext3    defaults        0       012:39
sic/dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 ro,user,noauto  0       012:39
sic/dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       012:39
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sic/dev/hdd1       /home/sic/winxp      ntfs    defaults,auto,uid=1000,gid=1000 0 012:39
membreyaaaaargh12:39
kev0rspammmm!12:39
sicno12:39
kev0ryes12:39
sicjust my fstab12:39
kev0rur fstab == spamm12:39
Nermalsic, just do what I told you to do ffs12:39
cefdaniels: I'll give it a go soon..12:39
membreyaoh, daniels..thankyou again for that tip with the amd64 and remove the sync rates :)12:39
Burgundaviasic: #flood for that12:39
cefbah12:39
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pregosic, provide also in the ntfs options ro: defaults,ro,auto,uid=.... (just in case)12:39
danielsceffcheers dude12:40
danielsmembreya: no worries12:40
pregoBurgundavia, how does the #flood thing work?12:40
kev0rlol, just join and flood :)12:40
cefdaniels: with the nvidia module loaded, there doesn't seem to be a 1440x900 mode anyway12:40
Burgundaviaprego: join the channel, watch people dump crap in12:40
membreyastill fighting with that laptop cef? :) you've had 24hrs12:40
danielscef: hmm weird, there should be12:40
pregoBurgundavia, so you say here "I'll paste my fstab in #flood" and paste it there, is it like that?12:41
Burgundaviaprego: yeppers12:41
sicprego, thanks12:41
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pregoBurgundavia, but all channels dump flood there... it may be a mess sometimes....12:41
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cefmembreya: yeah I've hardly had the time12:41
Burgundaviaprego: usually it is pretty quiet12:41
Nermalsic, let me know when you bother to try my suggestion12:42
pregoBurgundavia, OK, thanks12:42
membreyagetting upset Nermal ? :)12:42
cefwaiting for the software updates thingy at the moment12:42
Nermalmembreya, pissed off is more the word12:42
Burgundaviaprego: or you can create a temp channel like #sicfstab and look there12:42
cefdaniels: GL works with the nvidia module anyway.. *grin*12:42
membreyaNermal: yes but we all know you can't say that :P12:42
Nermalor you can just get rid of the whiole fstab issue as it's likely not to be that12:42
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membreyamy bandwidth cap is hating hoary :P12:43
danielscef: heh12:43
sicNermal, sorry, looked away and then looked back and saw pregos suggestion12:43
pregoBurgundavia, how do I create a channel?12:43
Nermalwell if you will paste half a screen into the channel12:43
Nermalprego, just join it :P12:43
membreyaprego: just type /j # (make up name)12:43
membreyaand hope it's not taken12:43
pregoOh! I'm the master of the channel ;-)))) he he12:44
Nermalnow you can kick yourself12:44
membreyamotu's beware :P12:44
Nermaloh joy12:44
pregoAnd if i leave the channel it is closed?12:44
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Nermalprego, unless you register it12:45
membreyayes prego, providing noone stays12:45
membreyaNermal: ..hungry again ?12:45
cefdaniels: re: the video on this lappy.. I'm guessing it's probably a rounding problem12:45
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danielscef: yeah12:45
danielscef: i suspect it'd be fine if you bumped the sync ranges up a bit12:45
pregoOK, guys, I'm sorry to have asked that kind of things but I was really curious about them. Thanks for your patience12:45
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topyliwonders of irc :)12:46
pregoirc, that unknown friend...12:46
membreyawith the right click "send to" option when you right click on a file, is there any way to edit the destinations?12:46
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membreyaie I just have gaim and evolution (which I don't use)12:46
Haydenwhere can i find a default smb.conf file>?12:47
cefdaniels: just trying that now.... bumped it up from 28-72 to 28-75.. no luck12:47
topylimembreya: how'd you get gaim in there?12:47
scizzoHayden: /etc/12:47
membreyaHayden: /etc/samba/12:47
membreyatopyli: it's "just" there :|12:47
thefishHayden, check on the samba site, under documentation12:47
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topylimembreya: hmm. perhaps i'm missing a nautilus-sendto-gaim-thingy package12:48
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Nermalmembreya, don't have that option12:48
Haydeni've changed it and want to get the default gilr12:48
membreyaI'm trying to figure out how to edit it >:(12:48
Haydenfile*12:48
Nermalmembreya, gconf-editor :P12:48
cefdaniels: "Not using mode "1440x900" (no mode of this name)12:48
pregomembreya, just guessing, but in preferred-applications setting perhaps you could place gaim in the email program and perhaps it would work12:49
membreyaprego: I have BOTH gaim and evolution12:49
membreyaplus my preferred is thunderbird12:49
danielscef: ah cock.  if you grep for 1440x900, does it see modes there and throw them away?  or does it really just need a modeline?12:49
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topyliA-HA! there's a gaim plugin to enable :)12:49
pregomembreya, you may decide between one of them perhaps...12:50
membreyatopyli: nautilus integration :)12:50
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cefdaniels: ahh hsync out of range..12:50
topyliwho would have guessed!12:50
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cefdaniels: which is weird.. cos i've got the hsync set for 28-100 atm12:50
membreyawish cef and daniels would be nice and enlighten us :P12:51
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cefmembreya: eh?12:51
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membreyacef: trying to figure out how to edit the "send to" option when you right click a file :)12:52
membreyaI figure you and daniels are the two most clicked on in here right now :P12:52
crschmidtI need to figure out how to change my network connection to change from a dhcp configured connection to static.12:52
cefhaha12:52
crschmidtCan anyone offer some pointers?12:52
membreyacrschmidt: System > Administration > Networking12:52
membreyathen click on properties on the network device12:53
crschmidtbleh, that'd mean i'd have to walk upstairs :P12:53
membreya...that's the easy way :)12:53
crschmidti found info in interfaces(5)12:53
cefdaniels: is there any way to get extended errors out of xorg? ie: show exactly what hsync it thinks the mode needs? or can I find it in a file?12:53
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membreyacrschmidt: sudo nano -w /etc/network/interfaces12:53
membreyaif you want to be a pain :P12:53
danielscef: not really, you just have to look at all the log stuff associated with mode validation and guess from there12:54
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danielscef: nv might be silently throwing the mode away itself, of course :\12:54
cefdaniels: not nv, nvidia12:54
danielscef: oh, right12:55
danielscef: both pieces ;)12:55
membreyaI'm going to state the obvious cef and ask what Xorg.0.log says about your modes?12:55
lzapvery nice Ubuntu CD cover, SVG format, 800kb, license: GNU GPL. pay a visit! http://www.linuxexpres.cz/index.php?show=00105102312:55
cefdaniels: I actually got the orig modeline for that from running xorg with nv then using xvidtune to print out the current modeline *grin*12:55
danielscef: heh :)12:55
nirani'm glad i'm not the only one who's been moved to tears by X12:55
lzapbtw can anyone please send an announcement fot the CD cover? i am not in lists and do not want to subscribe, msg me please, thanks12:55
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EvilSven"failed to lock .Xauthority", Anyone got any info on what could be wrong or where I can find info? I did some searching on ubuntu forum and so12:56
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membreyalzap: and what list would that be ?12:57
cefmembreya: can't find the necessary mode.. the mode is listed earlier, but it says 'hsync out of range' for the mode.. I've adjusted the horizsync line from 28-72 to 25-100 and no luck12:57
lzapmambreya: you choose, devel list or user list? I dunno12:57
danielscef: nvidia's probably doing its own crackful mode validation12:57
crschmidthm12:57
membreyalzap: you CAN view the lists online you know :)12:58
danielsfsvo 'validation' that includes 'throwing away modes silently based on criteria it's not telling you about'12:58
lzapmembreya: i see, but must subscribe :-(12:58
cefdaniels: what if I turn off DPMS (it's set currently)12:58
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membreyalzap: no you don't, you just need to click on the archive12:58
crschmidti think it's not letting me restart the network over ssh.12:58
lzapI want to share it with the community... OH ok will check it out... thnx12:58
crschmidtwhat a pain. gotta go upstairs anyway. :p12:59
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dabi#linux12:59
dabihmm12:59
dabiups12:59
cefdaniels: edid is curring it back to 29-5512:59
cefcutting even12:59
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membreyalzap: http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/ & http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/ & http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/ ... or you can just go to http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/lists, click on the lists and then click on the Archives01:00
lzapcannot find it... theres subscription page...01:00
Haydencan anyone help me sharing a folder on my linux computer wiht samba01:00
membreyathe archive link is at the top01:00
membreyaunder the About01:00
NermalHayden, right click -> share folder01:01
danielscef: Option "IgnoreEDID" IIRC01:01
danielscef: maybe Option "NoDDC"01:01
cefdaniels: and i can tell you now.. 1440 x 900 @ 60 hz is about 56 Khz01:01
danielscef: but you should be able to work just fine without the modes in there at all01:01
Haydeni can only use the command line01:01
Haydenplus i tried that on another computer and it didnt work01:02
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membreyaHayden: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#sambaserver01:02
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lordphasHi01:03
Elsidoxwhats the command to change your resolution? Like in the installation.01:03
NermalElsidox, umm. for console or X ?01:04
cefdaniels: yup.. 1440x900@60 = 55.92 Khz, 106.47 Mhz01:04
danielscef: hmmm01:04
danielscef: i assume nvidia is rounding to 56KHz and testing for < 5601:04
cefdaniels: btw: useful modeline gen: http://www.sh.nu/nvidia/gtf.php01:04
danielsyeah, gtf.c is handy01:04
cefdaniels: sounds like it01:05
danielsi'll kick upstream about it for you01:05
membreyais 5khz THAT much of a problem cef? :)01:05
ElsidoxNermal, for x01:05
ElsidoxNermal, *newbie*01:05
NermalElsidox, edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf01:05
lordphasI have a little problem: my new ubuntu installation cannot play media files!Audio works greatly but when I try to play a .mp3, .ogg, .avi, .mpg files both Totem, Rhytmbox or xmms don't work.They say that they cannot read the file.01:05
Nermalor just goto preferences -> screen resolution in gnome01:05
cefdaniels: cool.. I'll try the IgnoreEDID option and set the sync to 29-5601:05
crschmidtmembreya: when i click system->aadministration->networking, the tool launches for a second then just goes away01:05
Burgundavialordphas: see www.ubuntu.com/wiki/RestrictedFormats01:05
danielscef: or 57 might be needed01:06
membreyacrschmidt: then do the other thing I told you :P01:06
catch-out of curiosity is there any plan to have xorg be able to change screen res/refresh rate etc without restarting the server?01:06
membreyasudo nano -w /etc/network/adapters01:06
lordphasI don't think that .ogg is a restricted format!01:06
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membreyacatch-: you don't need to restart :|01:06
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cefdaniels: well gotta start somewhere01:06
cef*grin*01:06
catch-I thought you used to have to01:06
ElsidoxNermal, my res use to be 1080x1024 or something like that then I upgraded to Hoary. An now i can only change it to 1024x76801:06
crschmidtmembreya: i don't have a network/adapters01:06
Nermalcatch-, thats what all the xrandr stuff does01:06
Nermaliirc01:07
crschmidtdo have a network/interfaces01:07
membreyacrschmidt: /etc/network/adapters01:07
crschmidtbut editing that doesn't seem to have any effect when I restart networking.01:07
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membreyaerrrms01:07
membreyainterfaces even01:07
membreyagod01:07
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NermalElsidox, enter your correct hsync and vsync into xorg.conf01:07
membreyaI'm such a ditz01:07
niranwhat's the command for figuring out which package a file belongs to?01:07
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cafuegodpkg -S01:07
niranthanks01:07
ElsidoxNermal, if I only knew what that ment lol01:08
lordphasand I have already installed all gstreamer plugin01:08
cafuegoDon't thank me, thank kittens!01:08
NermalElsidox, look in your monitor manual :P01:08
danielscef: afaict the standard mode validation stuff should validate anything above 56.56MHz, so it looks like an nVidia problem01:08
Nermalmmm.. kittens01:08
cafuegoSurely dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg PROBES the display.01:08
ElsidoxNermal, I dont have one =(01:08
cafuegoNermal: You are NOT cute.01:08
catch-i like a nice jucy kitten01:08
catch-with carrots and peas01:08
catch-and potato01:09
NermalElsidox, manufacturers website01:09
Nermalcafuego, I never said I was01:09
cefdaniels: horizsync 29-57 works01:09
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membreyacafuego: tell that to jim davis!01:09
membreyaa pic of Nermal !!!01:09
membreyahttp://www.absolutefanatic.info/nermal/01:09
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ElsidoxNermal, thanks I think i fixed it. brb01:10
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EvilSvens01:10
lordphaswell, so, anyone know how to help me with my audio problem?01:10
lzapvery nice Ubuntu CD cover, SVG format, 800kb, license: GNU GPL. pay a visit! http://www.linuxexpres.cz/index.php?show=001051023 ENJOY01:10
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SmokingFireanyone here into tv/video capturing?01:10
Nermalarse01:11
cefdaniels: aha.. Default mode "1440x900": 108.8 MHz, 56.9kHz, 60.2 Hz01:11
lordphasmmh01:11
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=== Nermal castrates lzap with a wooden spoon
lordphas????? !!!!!!01:12
lordphaslol01:12
cefdaniels: want me to report the bug somewhere with some logs of working and failing?01:12
Nermallordphas, you have 104 keys at your disposal.. try a few more01:12
membreyagod Nermal, go eat something :P01:12
NermalI am eating something but it hasn't kicked in yet01:12
lordphas105 Nermal, 10501:13
Nermalits a tuna sandwich :|01:13
Haydenmembreya, i've read the ubuntuguide on how to setup a samba server and i've shared my home directory, how can i specify the apache /var/www directory to share?01:13
cafuegoWooden Spoon is an ex-worm!01:13
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danielscef: that'd be great, thanks :)01:13
NermalHayden, /etc/smb.conf ?01:13
danielscef: ah, so we just need a modeline01:13
membreyaHayden: see the share directories, create one that links to /var/www01:13
crschmid1membreya: i forgot that i had copied over my ~ from backup since I'd last used the desktop.01:13
membreyajust a hunch01:13
danielscef: if you drop it on our bugzilla, with the modeline you worked out, and assign it to xserver-xorg, i'll fix it for 6.8.2-5, which should happen tonight or tomorrow01:13
crschmid1My .Xauthority had been blown away.01:13
crschmid1membreya: so, I couldn't start *any* desktop apps :)01:14
membreyaoh yay daniels ...more updates...really the 60mb today weren't enough :P01:14
membreyadum dum crschmid1 ...still it doesn't compare to me blitzing my harddrive with convertfs01:14
cefdaniels: no modeline needed anymore btw. just HorizSync 29-57, and IgnoreEDID01:14
crschmid1Thanks for the help.01:14
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cefdaniels: I'll get onto the bugzilla stuff now01:15
lordphasI have a little problem: my new ubuntu installation cannot play media files!Audio works greatly but when I try to play a .mp3, .ogg, .avi, .mpg files both Totem, Rhytmbox or xmms don't work.They say that they cannot read the file.I have already installed all gstreamer plugins.01:15
membreyamust be good to actually fix something rather than being a person like me and just bitching cef :)01:15
pepsithe ubuntu update manager thing in the notification area always says theres an update availabe cause i locked an old version of a package01:15
cefmembreya: hehe.. well I try.. I tend to come across weird hardware01:16
pepsiid think that it should shut up if the only updates available are locked packages01:16
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kentWill Ubuntu continue to only ship with one CD, or will it some time in the future start shipping it on more CDs? It seems that is the size of some packages on the CD gets larger, then some packages have to be removed..  or?01:16
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SmokingFireIf one would want to write his/her own pvr software (for tv capturing) what would be better? To directly capture and convert to the video into mpeg2/mpeg4 (assuming no hardware support for this) OR to capture say with a delay, meaning get 250MB (or so) of uncompressed data on the HD and convert that. I would think that would be better as then you don't suffer framedrops etc.01:17
NermalSmokingFire, ask in #mythtv ;)01:17
cefkent: perhaps.. perhaps not....01:17
SmokingFireNermal: OK01:17
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Nermalseeing as that is what mythtv is01:18
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membreyahooray..another 4Mb file coming down..the updates are quick 'n' fast today :D01:18
Nermalhmm01:19
kentcef, but it would be bad if a future ubuntu release would have to remove some package from the cd becaus the size is of the one CD is limited. That would sort of make a distribution that from release to release continues to remove stuff just becaus of the ida that it should fit on one cd. :(01:19
membreyaim SO glad the release of ubuntu is next month, means my data cap gets reset :)01:19
Nermalis the ubuntu update manager meant to notice updates appearing in realtime ?01:19
lordphassigh why noone help me :bua:01:19
Nermalor does it just check periodically01:19
membreyakent: that's why everyone should have a dvd :P01:19
membreyaNermal: I believe it runs with a cron01:19
sicany ideas on I/O errors copying from an NTFS partition on one hdd to an ext3 partition on another hard drive?01:20
kentmembreya, I dont have a Dvd, although my computer is fairly new. I just didn't afford a dvd.01:20
brbrhelp! new install hoary amd64 -- network connection icon gives me this : SIOCGIFFLAGS error: no such device01:20
membreyaNermal: /etc/cron.daily/apt01:20
Nermalsic, are they on the same file or random ones ?01:21
Nermalmembreya, ta01:21
sicrandom01:21
brbrI can connect to the internet and xchat, no problem.  I'm using ethernet, to a router01:21
brbrthere's wireless on this machine, but I haven't tried to use it01:21
cefkent: the installer can handle more than one cd afaik, and there is still a fair bit slack space (stuff that isn't as well compressed)01:22
Nermalsic, knackered disk ?01:22
SmokingFireso when will openoffice come with ubuntu?01:23
Nermalnow ?01:23
Haydenit does01:23
SmokingFireWhat is ubuntu's policy regarding beta software?01:23
Haydendoesnt it01:23
Nermalyup01:23
Nermalopenoffice 1.x and 2.x01:23
SmokingFireNermal, Hayden: Sorry I meant openoffice 2.0 beta.01:23
Nermalthats in ther01:23
Haydenyea01:24
Nermalapt-get install openoffice.org201:24
Haydenok01:24
SmokingFireI mean on the CD.01:24
Nermaloh01:24
SmokingFirenot apt.01:24
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sicNermal, disk is fine01:24
Nermalafter hoary01:24
NermalI imagine01:24
Nermalas oo 2.x isn't going to be out for a while ..01:24
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SmokingFireyeah but oo.org is so ugly on gnome, I think oo 2 is much better for with ubuntu makes it slicker.01:25
Nermalhum01:25
Nermalwell I find oo 1.x with the gnome support package looks fine01:25
Nermaleven has a gtk2 file selector01:25
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SmokingFireIt looks like when you wear clothing who's colors don't match.01:26
gillesmy sound server has a problem on hoary, the sound works in application only when the system sound is unactive, or killed with "killall -9 esd", what should I do to make it work properly ?01:26
membreyaI would love to install OO.o2 but silly system won't let me :(01:26
membreyafix it daniels :P01:26
brbrCan anyone explain what a SIOCGIFFLAGS error is; I've googled, still unclear01:26
NermalSmokingFire, please provide evidence for your pointless argument which I have already addressed01:27
brbrassume it has to do with wireless, which I'm not using (not intentionally anyway)01:27
Nermaloo 1.x + oo gnome support = nice openoffice01:27
SmokingFireCan hoary now select the default audio device?01:27
suposHow ready is Hoary at this point? I'm visiting my parents next week, and I was considering upgrading their computer from Warty01:27
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membreyayes SmokingFire01:27
Nermalsupos, well its in preview 101:27
Nermalnot sure if this is an RC01:28
membreyabrbr: SIOCGIFFLAGS, what device is it saying doesn't exist?01:28
SmokingFireIf I attach my logitech quickcam during installation the OS thinks its the playback device and ignores my soundcard. Redhat (two years, last time I tried it) had the same problem. However mandrake was cool with it.01:28
suposNermal: And if I upgrade now, there won't be any problems when it goes final? (My arents can apt-get upgrade using synaptic without my help)01:29
brbrmembreya, I get this error when I click on the network connections icon01:29
NermalSmokingFire, I imagine it will work01:29
crschmidtThe Ubuntu software upgrader tool is pretty slick.01:29
Nermaljust select which devices you want to record from01:29
brbrand it's not showing my ethernet connection at all01:29
brbrthough the connection seems to be working01:29
Nermalsupos, I presume so.. you will have to uncomment 2 lines in apt.sources to get security updates01:29
membreyabrbr: do an ifconfig -a01:30
brbris that ifconfig, or ipconfig?01:30
Nermalifconfig01:30
brbr(noob here)01:30
Nermalinterface config01:30
Nermalwhy the fuck ms decided on ipconfig is beyond me01:30
suposNermal: Okay, I have ssh access to their box, so I should be able to do that for them01:30
brbrthanks guys01:30
Nermalfsck*01:30
membreyaifconfig01:30
membreyaipconfig is windows :P01:30
Nermalsupos, yah.. :)01:30
SmokingFireNermal: Not just record but the issue was playback. However the webcam has no speakers. But for some reason is registered as an audio device. This only when the cam is attached (via usb) during installation.01:31
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brbrok, I did ifconfig, and I see info for eth0 and lo (what's that, loopback?  I don't even know what that is)01:32
crschmidtlo is 127.0.0.101:32
SmokingFireNermal: and this was/is in warty. haven't tried hoary (messed a bit but not seriously)01:32
membreyabrbr: you have a wireless card?01:32
Nermaldunno then01:32
membreyawhat does your dmesg say about it ?01:32
NermalI gues buy a webcam with open specs01:32
brbrI do, built in to the new laptop.01:32
membreyabrbr: do a ifup wlan001:32
membreyathen do an ifconfig -a again01:33
lordphasI have a little problem: my new ubuntu installation cannot play media files!Audio works greatly but when I try to play a .mp3, .ogg, .avi, .mpg files both Totem, Rhytmbox or xmms don't work.They say that they cannot read the file.I have already installed all gstreamer plugins.01:34
brbrmembreya, tried that, got ifup: failed to open statefile /etc/network/ifstate: permission denied01:34
membreyagah01:34
membreyause sudo01:34
Nermallordphas, apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins01:34
Nermalmake sure you have universe and all that in your sources.list01:34
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brbrrats!  I'd assumed te sudo I'd just done would still hold...01:35
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Nermalthe gstreamer mad plugin will give you mp3 support01:35
Nermalbut that is in universe I think or maybe multiverse01:35
membreyabrbr: if you want that, then do a sudo -s01:35
crschmidtHm. My screensaver was running really slow: I wonder if I don't have the nvidia proprietary drivers instlaled or something01:35
NermalSection: universe/libs01:35
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membreyacrschmidt: what does /etc/X11/xorg.conf say as your driver?01:36
brbrah... ok I got Ignoring unknown interface wlan0=wlan0, and more info01:36
crschmidt"nv"01:36
membreyacrschmidt: change it to nvidia01:36
membreya"providing" you have the nvidia driver installed :)01:36
cefdaniels: #773201:36
crschmidtHow would I check if I have it installed?01:36
dmoynePlease can we safely install KDE 3.4 from hoary when being wary ? ; thanks01:37
Nermalaptitude show nvidia-glx ?01:37
crschmidtah, modprobe worked01:37
membreyacrschmidt: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx01:37
membreyaok :)01:37
Riddelldmoyne: yes01:37
cefdaniels: anyway for the moment I'm happy.. scorched3d works.. *grin*01:37
membreyabrbr: what does your dmesg say01:37
crschmidtso, then I have to restart Xorg...01:37
membreyacef: scorched3d?01:37
membreyacrschmidt: yes01:37
danielscef: heh, rad :) chers dude01:37
danielscheers, even01:37
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membreyacrschmidt: ctrl+alt+backspace01:37
crschmidtctrl-alt-delete? :)01:37
cefmembreya: played Scorched Earth01:38
crschmidter, yeah01:38
Nermalcrschmidt, /etc/init.d/gdm restart ?01:38
cefmembreya: ??01:38
membreyacef: I loved scored earth :)01:38
membreyascorched even01:38
membreyadher01:38
membreyatoo tired, cold and hungry01:38
brbrdmesg?  sorry, membreya, don't know what that is.  I see about 17 lines here01:38
membreyabut my ubuntu is running.. i can exist01:38
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dmoynelast time I tried I got messed-up ? ; another example I have installed xorg as replacement of XFree but I had to link xorg.conf to Xfree84.conf to get a proper set-up !01:38
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cefmembreya: scorched3d is an openGL version.. it's in universe afaik01:38
membreyabrbr: do a dmesg > dmesg.txt01:38
Haydenwhats a ftp server i can install ?01:38
membreyaand upload it somewhere01:38
membreyaHayden: ftpd01:38
Haydenok01:39
membreyacef: getting it now :D01:39
membreyacrack-attack is driving me nuts01:39
cefheh01:39
membreyaI was in a meeting at work, and all I could think of was playing crack-attack01:39
Echylo:D01:39
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membreyadmoyne: xorg.conf should automatically be linked to xfree84.conf01:40
membreyaerm 8601:40
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dmoyneit was not at least in the hoary I loaded from at the time !!!!01:40
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brbrhmm, big file membreya.  What am I looking for exactly?01:40
membreyabrbr: upload it somewhere and I will check it01:41
membreyacef: ..bad corruption on mine :|01:41
membreyabut then again, I have agpgart loading instead of nvagp :(01:41
sam__hi, anyone here using ndiswrapper on hoary?01:41
membreyaI don't want to recompile my kernel :'(01:41
Echylowow01:42
Echylocan it be that ubuntu updates today count 129 ?01:42
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dmoynenext question if I  want to download kernel 2.6.10+ where to get it from ?01:42
SiRrUsEchylo only 67 for me :)01:42
brbrI'll have to try that another time-- membreya -- need to run to work, don't want you to lose your time over it now.  Thanks.01:42
Echylohmm01:42
Nermaldmoyne, apt-get01:42
membreyaok then :)01:43
membreyaEchylo: yup, busy day :)01:43
Echylolel01:43
membreyaonly 60Mb of updates for me tho01:43
dmoyneoy synaptic for me as I hate console commands but then what repositry ?01:43
=== Nermal hopes the firefox issue is fixed soon
Echylo191mb for me01:43
crschmidtapparently the ability to modprobe nvidia doesn't mean much.01:43
membreyacrschmidt: ?01:43
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membreyaouch Echylo01:43
NermalPriority: optional01:43
NermalSection: universe/base01:43
crschmidtXorg complained it couldn't load nvidia when I restarted.01:43
membreyacrschmidt: did you disable DRI ?01:43
crschmidtmembreya: I don't know?01:44
crschmidtIf it's not done by default, no :)01:44
membreyaoi vay01:44
Echylomost are x.org updates?01:44
membreyahttp://www.ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver <- read, absorb, grow :)01:44
SiRrUsy01:44
crschmidtbut... but... documentation? :(01:44
membreyathat's for your crschmidt01:44
membreya:)01:44
ncpbe sure that glx i loaded, and dri and glcore is removede01:44
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dmoyneto nermal : thanks01:45
Nermalnp01:45
membreyaso ...cef...wanna help me with my nvsound ? :P01:45
ncpthat how it was with xfree86.conf but in ubuntu im not sure01:45
membreyaand cef ...wanna tell me how to remove agpgart without recompiling my kernel :P :P :P01:46
lordphasNermal: I already installe gstream's plugins and i have universe01:46
cefmembreya: don't have nvsound sorry..01:46
crschmidtmembreya: are you sure that's the link you meant?01:46
cefmembreya: do you need to remove it, or just stop it from loading?01:46
sam__my Dell Truemobile 1350 has stopped working under ndiswrapper since i upgraded to hoary (ran fine under warty) ...  anyone know what might be the problem?01:46
membreyahow about agpgart? :)01:46
danielscef: which 55.9xKHz modeline did you come up with?01:46
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Nermallordphas, worked for me :|01:46
membreyacef: remove it, or stop it from loading..nvidia complains about it and my 3d performance is crap01:46
danielscef: if you drop me the exact modeline, then I can include it in our stock set, and that should get rid of the problem01:46
lordphasNermal: it don't play neither .ogg that is a supported format!!01:47
membreyacef: geforce4000, amd64 3200...I get 400fps on glxgears01:47
cefdaniels: but that was for 59 Hz refresh01:47
danielscef: oh, right ... hm01:48
Nermalwith totem you can change ethe backend to xine if you want01:48
cefdaniels: but sure, I can add that to the bugilla entry01:48
Nermalapt-get install totem-xine01:48
danielscefta01:48
lordphasNermal: i try01:49
dmoyneto nerval : I tried unsuccessfully the following :01:49
dmoyneURI:http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/01:49
dmoyneDistribution : Warty01:49
dmoyneSection: optional universe base01:49
dmoynewhat is wrong ?01:49
crschmidthm. can't start gdm01:49
cefdaniels: there is one in there for 60.2 (the default one).. but the EDID thing blocks it01:49
crschmidtjust get "fail"01:49
crschmidtIs there a log for that somewhere?01:49
danielscef: right01:49
cefdaniels: and the default xorg line is exactly that mode01:49
danielsahr01:49
cefie: nvidia honours EDID and cuts out the useful res.. whereas xorg doesn't and can therefore use it01:50
lordphaswow now work!01:50
lordphasthx01:50
Nermaldmoyne, you're not on hoary01:50
lordphasI love ya man01:51
crschmidtrestart fixed it. silly me.01:51
dmoyneah I have to replace warty by hoary ! are othe sections fine ?01:51
cefmembreya: either add agpgart to the hotplug block list, or you can turn it off in /etc/modutils01:51
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membreyacef: I've added it to /etc/hotplug/blacklist ...but it's not stopping it ...I'm not sure how to use modutils :( only been using ubuntu for about a month01:53
Haydenhow can i change the users and root folders for ftpd01:53
dtygelHi all: question about "crontab" and the daily, monthly and weekly crons... does someone understand about this? :)01:53
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membreyawhats wrong dtygel01:53
dmoynenerval : with the change it wtill does not work !01:54
dtygelmembreya: I've put a script in cron.daily, but it doesnt execute daily...01:54
dtygelwell, it doesnt execute at all...01:54
membreyadid you chmod +x it ?01:54
cefmembreya: try 'echo alias agpgart off >> /etc/modutils/local.noagpgart' then 'update-modules'01:54
cefmembreya: all as root of course01:55
dtygelthe script? yes. I'm executing it right now...01:55
dtygel...manually01:55
membreyatrying now cef...thanks for your help ...will be back :)01:56
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odie5533How do I unmount a device?01:57
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odie5533I accidently mounted a cdrom drive, and now I can't eject it01:57
dizzieumount <dev>01:57
dtygelodie: umount {name of the device or mount point of the device}01:57
odie5533command not found01:57
odie5533same with sudo unmount01:58
dtygelodie: for the cdrom, just right-lick it and ask for "eject"01:58
dizzieumount01:58
odie5533I mounted it again01:58
dizzienot unmount01:58
odie5533oh01:58
dtygelodie: it isnt "unmount", its "umount"!01:58
odie5533it isn't letting me01:58
garrutjust right-lick it like dtygel says ;)01:58
odie5533says its mounted multiple times01:58
dtygelkkkk :)01:58
odie5533I mounted it twise, since I didn't know what it was01:59
dtygelmis-spell: right-click...01:59
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odie5533and I was randomely mounting things try to get my windows hard drives mounted01:59
garrutyou can't mount a device twice01:59
dtygelodie: in desktop there is a gray disc, isnt it?01:59
odie5533yes01:59
garrutit's either mounted or it isn't01:59
odie5533Its there I see it01:59
odie5533right click eject01:59
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dtygelso, just right-click it!01:59
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dtygelodie: yes.01:59
odie5533umount: it seems /dev/hdb is mounted multiple times01:59
odie5533eject: unmount of `/dev/hdb' failed01:59
membreyacef: ...still no go :(02:00
cefmembreya: any luck?02:00
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membreyamy dmesg gives NVRM: not using NVAGP, an AGPGART backend is loaded!02:00
odie5533I mounted it twice02:00
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dtygelodie: maybe there is a nautilus window open. Close all windows02:00
odie5533to two diff directories02:00
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dtygelodie: it's impossible to mount it twice...02:00
cefmembreya: so 'lsmod |grep agpgart' still shows the module as loaded?02:00
dtygelodie: what are the directories?02:00
odie5533nah I just closed all my windows but this one02:00
membreyadid i mention it loads with the kernel ? :)02:00
odie5533/mnt/hdb02:01
odie5533and /cdrom i think02:01
axnhey02:01
odie5533er /media/cdrom002:01
cefmembreya: agpgart isn't part of the ubuntu kernel.. it's a module02:01
dtygelodie, try this. First say umount /mnt/hdb02:01
garrutthere's supposed to be a number after the hdb..02:01
dtygelin console what happens?02:01
membreyacef: lsmod |grep agpgart never shows it loading02:01
garruthdb1 or hdb2 etc..02:01
membreyadmesg |grep agpgart shows..02:02
petemcto get a framebuffer console in hoary, do i need to do anything more than uncomment the kopt line and add vga=XXX in menu.lst?02:02
odie5533worked, thankyou02:02
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odie5533How do I go about mounting my windows harddisks though?02:02
membreyasorry for the 4 lines of text people02:02
membreyaagpgart: Detected AGP bridge 002:02
membreyaagpgart: Setting up Nforce3 AGP.02:02
membreyaagpgart: Maximum main memory to use for agp memory: 439M02:02
membreyaagpgart: AGP aperture is 256M @ 0xc000000002:02
membreyaLinux agpgart interface v0.100 (c) Dave Jones02:02
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lordphaswell now Totem plays both audio and video files, but rhytmbox not02:02
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Myrtti5!02:02
membreya6 soz :P02:02
cefmembreya: hrm02:02
membreyahrm indeed cef :)02:03
garrutodie5533, check which disk to mount with fdisk -l. then just mount it02:04
cefmembreya: and you're using the default ubuntu kernel?02:04
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garrutalso, it should be in your /etc/fstab02:04
membreyacef: yup, everytime in the past I've tried to compile my own I've been met with panics02:04
membreyacurrently running 2.6.11-102:04
cefmembreya: amd64 did you say?02:05
membreyayes indeed cef02:05
Haydenhow can i check how much free space i have (in a shell)02:05
dtygelpeople: can someone help me activating crontab? it seems like it doesn't work,,,02:05
cefmembreya: could perhaps be that amd64 has agpgart built in02:05
garrutdf -h02:05
membreyaamd64 kernel cef?02:05
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cefmembreya: yeah.. or perhaps the new kernel has agpgart inline.. Im using 2.6.10-something02:06
danielsmmm?02:06
danielsnope, agpgart isn't inline on amd6402:06
ncpis there an easy way to set up an mailserver? maybe at apps i could apt-get an set every thing up with GUI?02:07
membreyadaniels: hmmm doing an lsmod |grep agpgart show's nothing02:07
membreyayet my dmesg says it's loading and nvidia is cracking the shits with it02:07
nirandoes anyone know why ubuntu doesn't have the hplip hp printer drivers?02:07
danielsmembreya: dunno.  i don't have an amd64 machine with agp, anyway.  but i'm pretty certain it's not inline.02:07
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membreyadaniels: pci-e? :)02:07
danielsmembreya: yeah02:08
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membreyancp: get sendmail and use webmin to configure it02:09
niranoh nvm, i think i see why02:09
niranit depends on Qt.02:09
membreyadaniels: elitist rich person :P02:09
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membreya.... in a god like way of course :)02:10
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Haydenwhere can i find some help with ftpd other than 'man ftpd'02:12
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danielsmembreya: hah.  i'm a poor student.02:13
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membreyacef: I'll hit the forums for info on the agpgart :)02:17
membreyamain thing that annoys me is I do a cat /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/status and it says "disabled"02:23
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R0bNycWhy now after I rebooted either to 2.6.10-4-386 or 2.6.10-5-386 gdm doesnt show up,02:23
R0bNycit starts in the init 3 (Console)02:23
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rogoq: i know I can change a MAC address with ifconfig, but how would I do it at bootup - before a DHCP request is made ?02:23
deFryskLinux has helped the Renault Formula 1 team to slash its engine and chassis computational analysis time by 90 per cent.02:23
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Echyloyaay updated02:23
Echylomembreya I hope for you crack-attack isn't addictive02:23
ncpmembreya: i was told that sendmail not a good idea. postfix, qmail,exim ore something like that where the only ones that workede?02:23
NermaldeFrysk, it also made me pregnant02:24
membreyaqmail is good :)02:24
Nermal</wild claims>02:24
deFrysklol Nermal02:24
Nermalbah.. sore throat :|02:24
membreyarogo: changing the physical address of your network card? :|02:24
Nermalrogo, I tried that one for a while :|02:24
membreyaEchylo: yes..I am addicted to crack-attack02:24
Myrttimembreya: macspoofing02:25
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Echylopfiew02:25
EchyloI will not02:25
Myrttiperfectly possible, though hard if no experience02:25
Echylonot my game02:25
membreyaaaah Myrtti :)02:25
schasiwtf is crack-attack?02:25
membreyatrickkkky02:25
membreyaschasi: sudo apt-get install crack-attack ..and kiss your sanity goodbye02:25
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schasimembreya: Im not running debian atm02:26
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Haydenwhat port does ssh use?02:26
Nermal2202:26
libpng2202:26
Haydenok thanks02:26
NermalI love questions like that :)02:27
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rogomembreya,  i didn't realize you could change the physical address (?)02:28
Myrttirogo: you can't, but you can fake it02:30
Myrttispoof it02:30
rogoMyrtti, well.. i cando it manually easy enough with ifconfig..02:30
rogoMyrtti, the question is, how to do it automagiaclly..02:30
Myrttithat I don't know02:30
rogoi'm think ifup or something..02:31
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keffooseem to have a problem with opening .rar files02:33
keffoowhat app do you guys use?02:33
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rogoanyone else having gnome/desktop problems with hoary ?02:34
libpngkeffoo, apt-get install rar or unrar02:34
rogothe um. start bar (or whatever it's called) doesn't appear at login02:34
cefok, any grub specialists here? how do I dual boot 2 linux installs that are both using grub? It works when I first install, but when I get new kernel images (in either ubuntu or debian - i'm dual-booting between them), only the last grub that was installed gets updated02:34
InitMassis it possible to change safe mode by writing safe_mode = On in .htaccess?02:35
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keffoohm it is the newest version02:35
keffooweird02:35
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pregocef, sure02:35
keffoo!"#(#02:36
pregocef, you need to make an entry from one install at the other. Only one grub may be working at a time02:36
scizzokeffoo: what unrar package?02:36
cefprego: ok.. hrm02:36
scizzokeffoo: dpkg -l | grep unrar02:37
keffooscizzo: root@keffo:/home/keffo # apt-get install unrar02:37
keffooReading Package Lists... Done02:37
keffooBuilding Dependency Tree... Done02:37
keffoounrar is already the newest version.02:37
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keffook02:37
cefprego: just wondering how I'll co-ordinate that.. but should be possible.. hrm02:37
keffooii  unrar          0.0.1-1        Unarchiver for .rar files02:37
scizzokeffoo: that won't work with new rar archives02:37
scizzokeffoo: you will need the unrar-nonfree02:37
keffoooh ok02:37
keffoohow'll i dod that?02:37
pregocef, However, I think there is one way to install grub at the partition instead to at the boot sector, so you can have a grub on the bootloader that calls the "second" grub02:37
scizzokeffoo: from the universe archives02:38
keffoook02:38
keffooill go look in some .deb archive02:38
cefprego: hrm.. just looking at the menu.lst file at the moment02:38
pregocef, which requires two menus at the end, to select the kernel you want to run if it is the case of being the second install....02:38
R0bNycUbuntu Preview (Up to date) is missing a lot of the app icons02:38
scizzokeffoo: in synaptics you can edit the different repositories there02:38
scizzokeffoo: add the universe and so on in there02:39
keffoook02:39
pregocef, yeah, at the menu.lst you need to add an entry to the second grub; and the second grub you need to run it so it installs in the partition not in the boot02:39
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pregocef, sorry for my english... but I guess that it is more or less clear...02:39
Grexomaybe someone can help me........02:39
Grexoits not related to ubuntu02:40
scizzoGrexo: maybe tell us your problem...02:40
keffooscizzo: i wont be forced to install anything more than unrar-nonfree02:40
scizzo"I hurt!" yeah...but where does it hurt?02:40
thefishGrexo, is it drugs?02:40
Grexoscizzo its not with ubuntu02:40
pregocef, the point is that the second grub needs to be run with special option (see manual page, probably you'll find info about that)- and you need to know also the syntax for the the first one so launches the second one02:40
scizzoGrexo: well...we can't read minds...so tell us the problem and then maybe we can help you02:40
Grexothefish:  Is unlimited wireless internet at terrabit speeds for the cost of a linksys router = drugs? if so then yes02:40
Grexoand unlimited range too02:40
EvilSvenFailed to run /usr/sbin/synaptic:02:41
EvilSven Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file02:41
Grexothis guy was threatened with his life from the communications companies02:41
EvilSvenany ideas?02:41
thefishunlimited range wireless = drugs02:41
keffooroot@keffo:/home/keffo # apt-get install unrar-nonfree02:41
keffooReading Package Lists... Done02:41
keffooBuilding Dependency Tree... Done02:41
keffooPackage unrar-nonfree is not available, but is referred to by another package.02:41
keffooThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or02:41
keffoois only available from another source02:41
keffooE: Package unrar-nonfree has no installation candidate02:41
Grexohe tried to patent and the us government claimed national security02:41
cefprego: if only menu.lst supported includes02:41
scizzokeffoo: stop flooding02:41
keffoosorry, didnt thought it was that much text.02:41
johsohmm, how do I change/view my soundcard drivers? my sound is not exactly optimal..02:41
Grexoi wanted to talk to people who worked with communications techs02:41
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Grexoany idea where i would go?02:41
scizzokeffoo: apt-cache search unrar02:42
thefishGrexo, sounds like locust02:42
Grexolocust?02:42
pregoEvilSven, try "xauth list :0"02:42
keffooroot@keffo:/home/keffo # apt-cache search unrar02:42
keffoounrar - Unarchiver for .rar files02:42
keffooand its already the latest it says02:42
redissexyguys, I'm just loving the latest hoary theme and gnome and everything. :-) nice job02:42
pregoEvilSven, does it display a funny line or it gives you an error?02:42
scizzokeffoo: you haven't fixed with the repositories then02:42
thefishGrexo, http://www.locustworld.com/02:42
keffoook02:42
keffoo?02:42
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pregoredissexy, ta ta ta taaaa taaaaaaa I'm loving it :-P02:43
scizzokeffoo: did you enable universe?02:43
keffooys02:43
keffooand i now i got 150 new updates02:43
scizzokeffoo: did you run apt-get update?02:43
Grexothefish no its not wireless mesh02:43
nirankeffoo: the free unrar uses different command line options or something, so it breaks file roller. the unrar-nonfree package will fix it, which you can get from packages.debian.org02:43
EvilSvenprego, will do, root owns .Xauthority02:44
niranubuntu doesn't have it02:44
niranaccording to my apt-cache02:44
ncpi have installede exim & exim-webmin, but there is nothing to set up in webmin? if i want to have courier-imap also, should i just apt-get it an i can configurate it in webmin?02:44
thefishso your friend has invented terabit speed wireless with unlimited range?02:44
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scizzokeffoo: running hoary or warty?02:44
keffoohoary02:45
niranscizzo: i don't think ubuntu has the package02:45
niraneven in universe02:45
scizzokeffoo: then multiverse is what you are looking for02:45
niranmaybe multiverse02:45
keffooill go to packages02:45
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pregoEvilSven, in my case I'm the owner of .Xauthority02:45
scizzoniran: no? Filename: pool/multiverse/u/unrar-nonfree/unrar-nonfree_3.4.3-1_i386.deb02:45
scizzoniran: what do you call that?02:45
DellX200x86hey I have a question. I am extremely new to linux and I'm trying to install the newest warty (and I tried hoary as well) on my Dell Latitude X200, and the install screen is extremely warped02:45
rogook. let's give this a try.. rebooting02:45
niranscizzo: yeah, i said maybe multiverse. i forgot that i didn;t have that enabled02:46
keffoojust send me the goddamn file ;P02:46
nirani was wondering where i got it from, cause i didn't remember downloading it from debian02:46
EvilSvenprego, might be it02:46
keffooso what i need is multiverse?02:46
scizzoniran: well I thought he might be using warty and universe might have it in there...but seems like he is using hoary and so he needs multiverse02:46
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pregoEvilSven, why just dont change permissions of that file?02:46
Grexothefish:  hes not a friend actually02:46
shadeofgreyhas openoffice 2 beta been added to apt get yet?02:46
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Grexomore like a collegue02:47
Grexobut02:47
Haydenwhere can i find help about ftpd?02:47
Grexoyeah thats the jist02:47
pregoEvilSven, sudo chwown user:usergrp .Xauthority02:47
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Grexothefish:  Remember the days of 100mpg carberators?02:47
DellX200x86:-(02:47
Grexothey worked too and they proved it was working02:47
josemhey, could someone help me. I need a ftp source to include in /etc/apt/sources.list02:48
Grexoand yet we still ran on cars that sucked mass fuel02:48
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Haydenjosem, thats waht i am trying to do02:48
DellX200x86can nobody help me get this working on my x200? It's a display issue02:48
DellX200x86of some sort02:48
josem'cause i want to download the aolserver from aptitude but can't find it right now02:48
niranscizzo: what i don't understand is why file roller doesn't work with the free unrar.02:49
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scizzoniran: I have no idea02:49
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scizzoniran: works with the nonfree one if I am not wrong02:49
EvilSvenprego, thanks02:49
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GrexoGeorge Arlington Moore invented it02:49
keffoook, so there is still 150 updates..02:49
keffoothat it wants to do02:49
keffoohm02:49
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keffooand im not using universe anymore02:50
scizzokeffoo: did you enable multiverse?02:50
Grexoalso Charles N. Pogue02:50
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keffooi did not, thought i should get rid of all those packages02:50
josemhey lok . do u know some ftp source to get aolserver from aptitude02:50
DellX200x86I want to enable the universe but my screen goes blank when it tries to boot02:50
joheh, what is wrong? My mouse is dead in X. I cannot switch between any windows, ...?02:50
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scizzokeffoo: well the unrar-nonfree package is in multiverse anyway02:51
lokwhat's that aolserver?02:51
keffoook02:51
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keffoohow do i get those packages away then? ;P02:51
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DellX200x86hey I have a question. I am extremely new to linux and I'm trying to install the newest warty (and I tried hoary as well) on my Dell Latitude X200, and the install screen is extremely warped, like the lines are out of sync.02:51
josemaolserver is a web server02:52
josemusing postgreSQL02:52
roshambohi all. can anyone tell me what kernel version is hoary intending to be released with?02:52
niran2.6.1002:52
petemcthe advice on the wiki wrt codecs is to grab them from mplayer site and install etc manually, is it not advisable to use marillats packages?02:52
roshambogreat, thanks02:52
cefroshambo: 2.6.10 with patches02:52
keffoo02:53
scizzokeffoo: they won't upgrade unless you tell them to upgrade02:53
scizzo02:53
keffoojust testing02:53
roshambocef: is the list of patches on the ubuntu site somewhere?02:53
keffoothought that EvilSven's quitmessage wasnt just fuxed up. ;P02:53
keffoothought it was my keymap02:53
keffoo,P02:53
scizzono02:53
scizzohe is using UTF-802:53
josemdoes anybody knows 'bout a ftp source for ubuntu to include in sources.list02:53
DellX200x86can anybody see my text?02:53
scizzoDellX200x86: no02:54
scizzoDellX200x86: :P02:54
DellX200x86okay cool02:54
garruti can't either02:54
DellX200x86maybe I should make my nick less obnoxious02:54
josemyeah DELL02:54
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pregojoh, are you using xcompmgr?02:55
Haydenwhere can i find help about ftpd?02:55
warped_screenany better?02:55
scizzokeffoo: if you enable multiverse and run apt-get update02:55
freexjust want to ask is hoary a beta version?02:55
keffoohm02:55
johprego: no, but suddenly it worked for some reason... don't know why.02:55
scizzokeffoo: the packages won't be upgraded02:55
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keffooi got it now02:55
freexor a stable on02:55
keffoounrar-nonfree02:55
johprego: so.. never mind ;)02:55
keffoohm02:55
freexone*02:55
keffooi got 2 universe in my sources.list02:55
scizzokeffoo: apt-get install unrar-nonfree02:55
keffooshould i really have that?02:55
thefishfreex, hoary=unstable02:55
keffooscizzo: already got it ;P02:55
josemok,ok what ftp sources do u have on your sources.list of apt?  <anybody>02:55
scizzokeffoo: ok then02:56
keffoohey02:56
keffooscizzo:02:56
keffoodeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe02:56
keffoodeb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe02:56
keffoodo you got those?02:56
josemyes02:56
josembut i want some FTP02:56
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keffoothey are standard right?02:56
josemdo u know 'bout one02:56
niranfreex: hoary is unstable until eary april02:56
josemyes02:56
freexso what would u suggest if i would like to install ubuntu should i use warty?02:56
niranfreez: if you're new to linux and/or debian, yes use warty02:57
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niranfreex, rather02:57
josem'cause i need to download aolserver and aptitude can't find it with those sources02:57
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warped_screendoes an install have to be packaged with specific display adapters in certain instances?02:57
pregofreex. do you have wide band access to internet?02:57
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freexsort of02:58
freexwhy?02:58
keffooscizzo:02:58
pregofreex, I would recommend hoary, then02:58
keffooi would02:58
josemhey laverne!02:58
keffoo;P02:58
scizzojosem: tried to use apt-setup?02:58
josemcould u help me?02:58
josemoki02:58
LaverneHey josem02:58
josemtanks02:58
freexbut is it stable already?02:58
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josemyes i did it! scizzo02:59
keffooscizzo: i got those two "universe" in my souces.list, are they standard? or did i add them myself? ;P dun remember02:59
pregofreex, nope02:59
keffoo(svensk?)02:59
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warped_screen:-(02:59
Burgundaviakeffoo: they are standard02:59
pregofreex, but it is stable enough for normal use02:59
warped_screenI thought linux nerds were supposed to be helpful and supportive :-(02:59
keffoook02:59
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freexic02:59
Burgundaviawarped_screen: what was your question?02:59
keffooscizzo: so.. now i removed the universe i first added and the multiverse, and synaptic still whining about 'there are 149 new updates'03:00
pregowarped_screen, not all the answers are known, perhaps03:00
keffoohm03:00
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warped_screenwell03:00
scizzokeffoo: so?03:00
warped_screenIm just looking for a basica answer03:00
scizzokeffoo: then you have updates03:00
scizzokeffoo: hoary is updating all the time still03:00
keffoook? i dont belive that03:00
niranwarped_screen: i didn't understand your question03:00
warped_screenit has to do with loading warty on an X200. the lines of the display are out of sync and shit, but I can still install it03:00
keffoosince it came when i added them?03:00
niranrephrase it03:00
keffooso it wont 'fit' ;P03:00
scizzokeffoo: they came when you ran apt-get update03:00
warped_screenafter it goes through all the unpacking shit03:01
scizzokeffoo: you updated the archives03:01
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warped_screenit tries to boot to a completely blank screen03:01
spaceywarped_screen, is t a laptop ?03:01
warped_screenyes03:01
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keffooand how do i 'un-update' then03:01
warped_screena Dell Latitude X20003:01
scizzokeffoo: the updater found that you had those updates03:01
spaceydid you look on linux-on-laptops.net or something like that03:01
keffoosince i dont want mixed universe, multiverse etc03:01
pregowarped_screen, did you try special boot options?03:01
cefprego: so once I have a working menu.lst, I should then run 'grub-install /dev/hda' ?? (hda is the boot device)03:01
warped_screenno03:01
warped_screenhow do I do that03:01
scizzokeffoo: why would you want to un-update?03:01
keffoosince i dont want those updates?03:01
pregocef, no if its already installed....03:01
keffooi want updates from hoary main etc03:02
freexdoes it support reiser?03:02
keffoomy old soucres?03:02
spaceywarped_screen, look up your laptop on http://www.linux-laptop.net/03:02
cefprego: well it got overwritten03:02
keffoonot any new one.. i added just because of unrar-nonfree03:02
warped_screenthank for you the useful information03:02
nirankeffoo: it doesn't mix anything. packages in multiverse aren't in any other section. it's not different versions, it's packages with restrictive licenses03:02
Burgundaviakeffoo: post your sources.lst to #flood03:02
pregocef, but as you have two grubs, I guess that would be OK...03:02
scizzokeffoo: then disable the multiverse and universe archives...run a apt-get update again03:02
scizzokeffoo: you will still get updates trust me03:02
cefprego: basically I want to overwrite the debian one with the ubuntu one03:02
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keffooyes, ok.. i crawl back.. and ask03:02
keffooif i do update those thingies?03:02
pregowarped_screen, there is F1, F2, F3... for information at the booting process03:02
scizzokeffoo: the fact is that you have not run apt-get update for a long time and that is why you have so many updates03:02
warped_screenwow, so if Ubuntu isn't listed here at linux-laptops...am I doomed?03:03
keffooscizzo: i ran it 5 minutes before you told me about universe/multiverse03:03
Burgundaviawarped_screen: nope03:03
Burgundaviawarped_screen: is debian listed?03:03
keffooi updated about 49 packages yesterday03:03
warped_screenyes.03:03
nirankeffoo: have you been installing packages from outside of ubuntu?03:03
pregowarped_screen, did you success with booting options?03:04
keffoono03:04
Burgundaviawarped_screen: ubuntu is based off of debian03:04
keffoohm03:04
warped_screenyeah I should have figured03:04
Jesteracewoo all kinds of updates this morning for hoary03:04
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Burgundaviakeffoo: I don't think it is a problem03:04
Burgundaviakeffoo: if you post your /etc/apt/sources.lst to #flood, I will take a look at it03:04
keffoook03:04
spaceywarped_screen, you can also boot a knoppix cd and copy over the Xfree config file03:05
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spaceythere is probably lot of info about troubleshooting X problems. but i'm just lucky everytime, so i don't know ;x03:05
keffoobtw, another question.. im goign to use fluxbox instead.. whats best, running GDM or XDM..?03:05
keffoo;p03:05
universalcan someone help me with amsn?03:06
spaceykeffoo, doesn't really matter i think. but gdm is prettier03:06
warped_screenSpacey, what would that accomplish03:06
keffoookok03:06
keffoospacey: u running fluxbox?03:06
spaceykeffoo, nop03:06
Burgundaviakeffoo: all those point to the hoary hedgehog distro (as opposed to the earlier warty warthog one)03:06
topylikeffoo: xdm is probably lighter though if that's what you want03:06
universalcp -a icons/32x32/* /usr/local/share/pixmaps03:06
universalln -s /usr/local/share/amsn/amsn /usr/local/bin03:06
universalln: '/usr/local/bin/amsn': File exsist03:06
universalmake: *** [install]  Failure 103:06
Burgundaviakeffoo: there should be no issues with your setup03:07
scizzokeffoo: and yes I am swedish03:07
universalwhat to do?03:07
spaceywarped_screen, the reason you don't have graphical interface now is probably that X couldn't auto configure03:07
chillywillyla la la la la la03:07
keffooBurgundavia: so what do you suggest do? just update those thingies03:07
keffooscizzo: ok ;P03:07
Burgundaviakeffoo: there are going to be a lot of packages updated03:07
spaceyso you have to tweak the config a bit03:07
warped_screenoh okay03:07
keffooim quite sure something will screw03:07
universalcan somone help?03:07
spaceythats all03:07
Burgundaviakeffoo: I would also use GDM, it is prettier, and doesn't need the rest of gnome03:07
warped_screenso if I get the appropriate XFree configuration file, everything will work?03:07
Burgundaviakeffoo: apt is quite smart, far better than rpm/yum at dealing with issues03:08
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spaceywarped_screen, AFAIK yes03:08
keffoobut Burgundavia isnt there a way to 'empty' my update list.. and do it again?03:08
spaceybut i'm no X guru03:08
Burgundaviawarped_screen: if you running hoary, that would be xorg.conf03:08
keffoojsut to see if it wants to update without all those new sources03:08
warped_screenwell I have both hoary and warty03:08
Burgundaviakeffoo: just reload your sources03:08
keffooyes03:08
keffooand its still there03:08
Burgundaviawarped_screen: ?03:08
keffoohm03:08
keffoodamnit ;P03:08
nirankeffoo: if you do apt-get update without the multiverse line, you'll have the correct apt packages list03:08
keffoook03:09
warped_screenno, i Mean I tried both03:09
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Burgundaviakeffoo: then update those packages.03:09
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niranthat means they're just updates03:09
cefprego: ahh got grub to do what I wanted *grin*03:09
Burgundaviawarped_screen: what do you run now?03:09
keffooand Burgundavia my source.list looks quite ok? like the standard one..03:09
warped_screenwell right now Im an XP Machine03:09
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Burgundaviakeffoo: no issues that I saw03:09
keffoook03:09
nirankeffoo: your sources.list is fine03:09
warped_screenwhile my other machine is going through download stuff03:09
keffoothen ill thank you guys, really sweet support ;p03:09
Haydencan anyone help me setup ftpd to share my apache www folder?03:09
scizzokeffoo: what are you scared of?03:09
keffooill go update03:09
keffooi dunno03:09
niranyou could even add back the multiverse line if you want03:09
warped_screenIm retrying warty03:09
keffoowhen i ran debian everything fuxed up ;03:09
keffoop03:09
keffoobut it was leik 2-3 years ago03:10
cefprego: just added options to grub on ubuntu to tell it to use the debian kernel at /vmlinuz with the initrd at /initrd.img (and the right partition)03:10
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keffooits deep down in my undermind;p03:10
keffoobrb03:10
keffoobtw03:10
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keffooapt-get dist-upgrade = apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade03:10
keffoo?03:10
scizzokeffoo: you are so scared that you want to tell your system that..."No I don't want new releases or updates of any kind!"03:10
pregocef, that will work, but if you upgrade kernel at debian you will have to redo all the grub reinstall and update menu.lst at ubuntu....03:10
cefprego: then forced grub from ubuntu to reinstall itself.. next I'll remove grub from debian so it can't overwrite the boot record03:10
Burgundaviadist-upgrade will install new packages if needed, upgrade won't03:11
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pregocef, Oh, oK03:11
scizzokeffoo: hoary is still updated..that is why new packages are added all the time03:11
keffoothen ill do dist-upgrade03:11
keffoook03:11
keffooi guess i've been wrong then03:11
keffooubuntu is a really sweet dist imo03:11
keffoo;P03:11
pregocef, however don't forget to update ubuntu's menu.lst every time you upgrade debian kernel03:11
cefprego: /vmlinuz is a symlink, and debian always has that pointing at the correct kernel03:11
Nomikoscan someone give me a few pointers to installing apache 1.3? "apt-get install apache-common", does that do it?03:12
keffoobtw03:12
keffooits updating alot of KDEstuffs03:12
HaydenNomikos, www.ubuntuguide.org03:12
keffooand i dont use KDE really.. but its quite necessary right?03:12
keffooanyway..?03:12
cefprego: and if that kernel is fubar for whatever reason, I'll just use Ubuntu to mount the partition for a rescue *grin*03:12
Burgundaviakeffoo: did you install KDE?03:12
NomikosHayden: cheers03:12
scizzokeffoo: then you have those packages installed proberly03:12
pregocef, I did not know that .03:12
keffooBurgundavia: think it just came along ;P03:12
Burgundaviakeffoo: if you installed a program that uses qt or the kde libs, they got installed03:13
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keffoook03:13
Burgundaviakeffoo: such as k3b03:13
keffoooh03:13
keffooyes03:13
keffoonow when you say so03:13
keffoobrb03:13
cefprego: same on Ubuntu btw, but I'd only do it for one OS at a time03:13
NomikosHayden: there is no earlier Apache for Ubuntu?03:13
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pregocef, ;-)03:13
keffoobtw, if im moving over to fluxbox.. what should there be to think about?03:13
keffooany necessary .conf-files to edit or etc..03:14
HaydenNomikos, i'm not sure03:14
cefprego: and if I get really desperate, and I can't find a livecd, install cd (for ubuntu or debian).. I'll use the ext3 mount tool I've got for XP (also on the machine)03:14
NomikosHayden: ok, I'll go with Apache2 then :-) thanks03:14
padlefothi guys03:15
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Echylolel03:16
cefNomikos: something to think about with Apache2 if you're used to Apache 1.x - the apache2-mpm-prefork package works the same way as Apache 1.x did.. and avoids issues with non-thread safe code03:16
Martijn:D03:16
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Nomikoscef: hmkay, good to know. I'll dig into the guide (<- new to me) first :-)03:17
cefNomikos: and really, the performance benefit of threads hasn't been well proven03:17
cefNomikos: oh, there are also some neat little commands that start with a2 that you should check out..03:18
Nomikoscef: ah?03:18
Martijnhi all; new here, small question: when I install ubuntu, can I choose whether or not I want to install Grub into the MBR?03:19
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petemcMartijn: yes03:19
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Martijnok thnx :)03:19
Echylopetemc you'll need to show me that ;)03:19
Echylothat's an expert install I guess03:19
shadeofgreyhow do i checxk to see if the 2.0 beta for openoffice is avaiolable threough the apt-get system?03:20
Echyloor does it asks for it?03:20
petemcit asks03:20
Echylocan't remember03:20
Martijn\o/03:20
Echylohmm03:20
Martijngreat03:20
Echylook03:20
Burgundaviashadeofgrey: it is03:20
Nermalshadeofgrey, apt-get install openoffice.org203:20
Burgundaviashadeofgrey: enable universe and search for it03:20
SlackShrikethis site ,http://www.ubuntuguide.org , is wiki ?03:20
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pregoshadeofgrey, using synaptic, search -> openoffice03:20
Echyloonofficial guid SlackShrike03:20
KsEdo yall ever sleep03:20
cefNomikos: things like a2dismod, a2enmod, a2dissite, and a2ensite03:20
KsEits 8 20 in the mornin03:21
SlackShrikebut is WIKI ?03:21
Echylodon't think so why?03:21
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Nomikoscef: hmm.. not familiar to me but I'll look them up03:21
cefNomikos: a2enmod enables a particular module (eg: say php4).. none of this editing a config file03:21
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cefand a2dismod turns it off'03:21
EchyloSlackShrike why do you care about it being WIKI ?03:22
cefNomikos: and a2ensite enables a site config (you can have multiple configs and either run them concurrently or one at a time)03:22
cefNomikos: and a2dissite turns off the site config03:22
Pen`LupeN-can I see some screenshots of ubuntulinux somewhere ?03:22
NomikosI gotta lot of reading to do :)03:22
chillywillydoes Ubuntu have an amd64 port?03:22
BurgundaviaPen`LupeN-: shots.osdir.com03:22
membreyachillywilly: yes, running it right now03:22
Burgundaviachillywilly: yes03:22
Echylow8 Pen`LupeN- I'll show you mine :p03:22
pregoPen`LupeN-, better you can try it yourself with the Live CD03:22
cefNomikos: makes handling big/multi-host sites really easy03:22
Echyloow03:23
Echylolost it03:23
chillywillyanyone run ubuntun on a production server (just the base install)?03:23
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chillywillyubuntu too :)03:23
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Pen`LupeN-prego I've ordered 1cd now ;)03:23
Rollehas anyone tried the ppc live of hoary??03:23
KsEi have a question for anyone who can answer, how do you make it where num lock automatically turns on when you log into gnome?03:23
membreyaBurgundavia: those are warty screen shots :(03:23
TerenHello03:23
membreyakse: sudo apt-get install numlockx03:23
Nomikosgah. "apt-get install apache2" wants me to insert CD, not a good one for remote installs then03:24
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cefchillywilly: was going to except that spamassassin, clamav, and amavisd-new aren't supported by the ubuntu security updates (afaik)03:24
KsEi did that and it said there is no package by the name of numlockx03:24
Tereni have a question...03:24
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membreyaKsE: do you have all your repo's active?03:24
cefNomikos: just remove the cdrom line from '/etc/apt/sources.list' and then run 'apt-get update'03:24
EchyloPen`LupeN  http://www.tweaking-gamers.com/forum/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=41403:24
Lumienis there a list of all avalible packages with apt-get somewhere at ubuntus homepage?03:24
Echylothat's mine03:24
KsEdoubt it because i just got ubuntu yesterday03:24
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EchyloKse03:25
Burgundaviamembreya: look in the development version archive03:25
TerenI have hoary, I needed to use makedev, and after using it, eth0 can't get it's IP adress from DHCP03:25
membreyaEchylo: transparent...how passe :P03:25
Echyloyou need to activate the universe packages03:25
cefNomikos: it leaves that there as most people are desktop users, and it saves downloading files if they have them on the cd already03:25
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Terenwhat can be the problem?03:25
Nomikoscef: ah right, makes sense03:25
Echylokse, check http://www.ubuntuguide.org there's a little how to activate universe sources, to install numlockx etc03:26
KsEokay thanks03:26
Echylonp03:26
cefdamn it! I lost 10fps in that kernel upgrade!03:26
membreyaEchylo: damn you people that run 1280x102403:26
chillywilly:)03:26
Terenany ideas?03:27
Burgundaviamembreya: heh03:27
EchyloI have the most shitty monitor in the world03:27
Echylobut It handles it03:27
chillywillyany caveats with running amd64?03:27
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cefbrings me down to 1873 fps.. doh! *grin*03:27
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chillywillylooking at buying a beefy dual proc AMD 64 3U box03:27
bwlanganybody know the ubuntu way to install more perl packages.. eg palm::pdb03:27
membreyamy monitor CAN do 1280x1024....but it's the max ..and my system will only allow me to do 1152x86403:27
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Burgundaviacef: oh you poor man03:28
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WarDeadhmmm does anyone know how i can install sound because alsaconf doesn't seem to work03:28
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cefchillywilly: there are a lot of perl libs you can 'apt-get'..03:28
membreyachillywilly: the only problem with amd64 is packages tend to be a lil delayed..or you have to compile them yourself03:28
Terenalso, what's the difference between /.dev and /dev?03:28
membreyacef: you so kick my arse (even with my amd64 3200) :|03:28
pregomembreya, my monitor can do 1600x1280, but I prefer 1400x1050 so I get higher refresh rate03:29
membreyai hate you too prego >:(03:29
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Echylo:P03:29
EsKokay Echylo, it says replace the text from /etc/apt/sources.list, but it says warty, do i just change the hoary03:29
pregomembreya, I know, but my machine is quite slow....03:29
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membreyai blame agpgart for my graphics performance issue03:29
robodexwho wants to hear a funny yet highly sad story?03:29
Echylowhat esk?03:29
Echylono no03:30
Echyloyou remove the #03:30
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Echylobefore universe03:30
membreyaamd64 3200, geforce 4000 ...and I get 400fps in glxgears!03:30
R0bNycWhy now after I rebooted either to 2.6.10-4-386 or 2.6.10-5-386 gdm doesnt show up,03:30
R0bNycit starts in the init 3 (Console)03:30
EsKokay03:30
cefmembreya: P4 HT @ 3.2 Ghz @ GeForce FX 2 Go 5200.. Laptop03:30
membreyaht ....blah :P03:30
cefnot using an smp kernel tho03:30
membreyacould be worse, you could have had a P4E03:30
membreyawhy not cef ?03:30
cefmembreya: yeah but I didn't pay a cent for this machine *grin*03:31
KsEaccidently had two open03:31
cefmembreya: cos I've not tried it yet03:31
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membreyadid I mention I hate you cef ?03:31
Echyloyea, count me in03:31
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membreyamind you, I only paid $1k AUD for my box :|03:31
membreyaneed to get a new hdd, 120gb SATA is running out03:31
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EchyloI did an offer for a pc03:31
Echylo5?03:31
pregomembreya, using latest nvidia drivers?03:31
Echylolemme check if I am still highest03:31
membreyawanna get a 200gb..but I'm trying to decide between that and another 512mb ram03:31
robodexI'm a dirty pirate, so I have a modded ps1... But most ps1 images are in weird formats that cdrecord/cdrdao/k3b don't support and more often than not the images get corrupted when converted to iso. So I switched back to windows cos I couldn't get nero to run under wine03:31
membreyaprego: yup03:31
cefmembreya: I did however take about a month out of my life to move my work.. this is their way of paying me back03:32
robodexwell guess what came out two days after I switched back to windows >_<03:32
membreyaI have to use the "latest" because I'm running 2.6.11-103:32
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pregomembreya, I also hate you03:32
pregohe he03:32
KsEokay i fixed it03:32
KsEall done03:32
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membreyawhuh? in the grand scheme, my pc sucks03:32
Echylomine too03:33
Echylop203:33
pregomembreya, you are in the leading edge...03:33
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nvashi2hey all I have an xwave300 pci sound card and for soom reason my sound does not work any clues why?03:33
membreyabwuahahaha Echylo, I gave away my p4 1.803:33
cefwell, time to get some sleep03:33
Echylo:)03:33
membreyanite cef :)03:33
Echylognight03:33
membreyaoh, thomastown cef :)03:33
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Echylodamn I need a new one03:33
membreyanot too far from me :D03:33
cefmembreya: Aplhington actually03:33
nvashi2xwave300 -> xwave300003:34
membreyasame diff :P03:34
cefmembreya: Alphington even03:34
membreyasunshine for me :)03:34
cefmembreya: ahh cool.. I'd consider hiding my lappy, but it's so big it's hard not to notice03:34
membreyacome configure my linux!03:35
membreya:P03:35
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robodexbtw is it just me or is ubuntulinux.com down?03:35
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cefthe screen is almost 40cm across and 25cm high..03:35
membreyai noticed from your questions cef :)03:35
membreyaworks fine for me robodex, but I also use squid :P03:36
cefok.. I really need sleep03:36
membreyaciao cef :)03:36
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robodexok now it's mysteriously up03:36
robodexaaaaaaa it's making me go crazy!!!!!!!03:36
robodexheh I feel so dirty, I'm in here yet I'm running windows xp :(03:36
padlefotgo clean yourself03:37
padlefot:p03:37
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robodexheh I'm considering going back to ubuntu soon... I haven't installed enough on this windoze machine to have lost alot03:37
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robodexbut it took me about 3 or 4 days to config my ubuntu setup the way I wanted last time :p03:37
robodexplus I'm not sure if I wanna run hoary or not... is the PR stable?03:38
pregoanyone here playing with xen?03:38
robodexI also recently got a new mouse, but I'm not sure if I can configure it the same way I can in windows03:38
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BendertheRoboti have a problem none of the music players work03:39
membreyarobodex: I spent a month configuring my ubuntu...but then I crashed the system with a convertfs, thankfully I could recover the /etc directory :) everything back up and running in a day03:39
membreyarobodex: what type of mouse?03:39
robodexit's a microsoft 5-button mouse, and I have a program that lets me configure the two extra buttons for different programs03:39
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membreyarobodex: you can do the same in ubuntu03:39
membreyamy side buttons do forward and back03:39
robodexso like I have them configured to do next/prev in itunes, back/forward in ff and next window in mirc03:39
BurgundaviaBendertheRobot: run gstreamer-properties and select esd if it is not already03:39
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BurgundaviaBendertheRobot: beyond that, look at dmesg03:40
BendertheRobotthanx03:40
membreyarobodex: http://www.groundhog1.com/mouse/MSExplorer.html03:40
robodexheh I started backing up my hd with g4l but I got bored so I didn't finish :S all I have is my home directory backed up03:40
membreyaI'm going to do weekly backups to DVD from now on robodex :)03:40
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robodexheh all I have is a CD burner and a DVD-ROM that may or may not work with DVDs :X03:41
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membreyadid you get the URL for the msexplorer robodex ?03:41
robodexyeah03:42
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robodexI can use that for individual programs, though?03:42
membreyayes you can :)03:42
omniworkhi folks. anyone here have any luck getting the airport extreme (broadcom) wireless working for ubuntu-ppc ?03:42
robodexcool. if I switch back to ubuntu today I'll most likely ask you again for the url :p03:43
Nermalnope.. not supported :|03:43
omniworkor should i just give up and send a complaint email to broadcom03:43
robodexis it possible to install warty and then do a dist-upgrade to installing the hoary pr?03:43
Burgundaviarobodex: yes03:43
Nermalomniwork, the latter :|03:43
Burgundaviarobodex: I have upgraded my box from a warty pr box03:43
omniworkNermal: god i hate broadcom03:43
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KsEwhich one do you think is better, mplayer or totem(with xine)03:44
robodexawesome03:44
Nermalomniwork, I think a gnome guy ended up finding a card that worked03:44
Nermalor a usb thingy03:44
BurgundaviaKsE: totem03:44
omniworkyeah.. i know i can use kludgy external stuff03:44
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KsEokay03:44
wbeck85i think im for totem03:44
omniworkbut i already  have an internal wireless03:44
terenhello03:44
wbeck85hi03:44
Burgundaviateren: hey03:44
robodexone more question... does doing a dist-upgrade upgrade just the software you have installed, or does it install new software as well? I wanna do a REALLY minimal install (only a 4gb hd)03:44
KsEi worked with mplayer on fedora, and i didnt like it one bit, but i had to use it because i couldnt compile xine03:45
wbeck85has anyone tried kubuntu?03:45
Nermalomniwork, aye.. workaround :|03:45
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tereni have some problems with usplash, I know it's still in an early stage, but the problem is kinda strange03:45
omniworkand i just want to fool around. i'm a long time linux user, but never tried it on any of my macs03:45
Burgundaviarobodex: it installs new software03:45
terenthere is no /dev/fb0 at all03:46
robodexhmm. then I'll most likey just do a full install, do a dist-upgrade, and then remove all the software I don't need03:46
Burgundaviarobodex: upgrade just upgrades with installing new software03:46
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terenbut lsmod has vesafb in it03:46
Burgundaviarobodex: make certain you get new locales and xorg03:46
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kangahello all03:46
robodexyeah, I know... xorg is actually the reason I want hoary03:46
vassiehello kanga03:46
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kangahi vassie me new to linux03:46
membreyarobodex: if you want to see the config file for the mouse and how you alter it on a per program basis...go to this link http://members.optusnet.com.au/~membreya/imwheelrc03:47
vassie:) me too03:47
kangacan i speak to you in private vassie?03:47
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robodexhmmm that's cool03:47
wbeck85how long does getting kubuntu-desktop take via synaptic i have everything dled alraedy and it is "installing software"03:47
wbeck85jeez, this is taking forever.03:47
vassiekanga: of course03:48
keffooanyone using ubuntu hoary and fluxbopx?03:49
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wbeck85never used fluxbox03:49
robodexah, I have another question, one that I shoulda asked when I was still using ubuntu... How much of GNOME can I remove in ubuntu while still keeping the system stable? I used xfce exclusively, but I didn't know what I should/shouldn't remove from GNOME. I still wanted to use GNOME-based apps03:49
wbeck85is it nice?03:49
kangavassie we'll talk here03:50
kotatsurobodex: you can remove all of gnome if you want03:50
keffoowbeck85: fluxbox should pwn03:50
keffoo;P03:50
vassiecan you try and dcc chat me?03:50
kangaivge tried cant connect03:50
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wbeck85isnt fluxbox really minimal?03:50
vassieare you on jabber?03:50
kotatsurobodex: the ubuntu default install is just geared towards making GNOME usable out of the box, but there's no reason to keep if you don't need it... although I would recommend just doing a minimal install and adding xfce if you don't want anything associated with GNOME03:50
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Burgundaviarobodex: make certain you keep gdm03:51
kangano at work here only irc03:51
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Burgundaviarobodex: and gvm if you want hotplugging03:51
robodexwell there were some GNOME apps I wanted, but I didn't use the wm at all03:51
kotatsurobodex: you could always just load xfce and use that, no reason to remove GNOME03:51
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kotatsuunless you're hurting for disk space03:51
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robodexI'm still debating on whether I want to do a minimal install and install xfce via apt or compile it using the installer03:52
vassiekanga: what's up?03:52
robodexI'm hurting for disk space... only a 4gb drive :S03:52
kotatsuah, k =)03:52
kotatsuyeah rip out GNOME then hehe03:52
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keffooanyone got a clue why i suddenly CANT select standard app for example a .mpg file?03:52
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membreyarobodex: so spend $50 and get a bigger drive :)03:52
terenwhy do i have /.dev and /dev?03:52
Burgundaviateren: .dev is if hotplug screws up I believe03:53
robodexI actually have a 120gb drive, but due to a REALLY weird error in the partition table, I can't repartition it without losing all my data03:53
terenk, but why don't i have a /dev/fb0 but i do have a /.dev/fb003:53
pregorobodex, buy a dvd burner...03:53
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robodexmeh, too much work, I might as well buy a new 80gb drive for $70 CAD :p03:54
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kotatsurobodex: the drive will fail eventually and you'll lose everything anyway ;)03:54
kangasorry vassie03:54
pregorobodex, sure03:54
robodexhehe true enough, I'm just delaying the inevitable03:54
kotatsubetter get that data off the disk now while you still can03:54
kotatsuif you have no backup hehe03:54
kangaive d/l warty and i want to try it from the cd not the hard drive03:54
kotatsukanga: you need the Live CD for that03:55
kangai need some guidance know where i can get it?03:55
kotatsukanga: then just put it into the drive and reboot03:55
robodexheh the sad thing is only about 5 or 6 gb of my stuff is actually important, the rest is things I've downloaded :p03:55
pregorobodex, or don't, if you really wan to feel sad and fool03:55
kangau need to change bios settings03:55
kotatsukanga: http://releases.ubuntu.com/hoary/hoary-preview-live-i386.iso.torrent03:55
vassiemake your cd/dvd drive the first bootable device03:56
odie5533Is NTFS really read only mountable?03:56
kotatsuyes, change the bios to look at your optical drive as the boot device03:56
kangak ill cut and paSTE THANKS OK03:56
kotatsuodie5533: yes03:56
odie5533Is there a way around it?03:56
keffoook03:56
keffoognome can go tell hell03:56
keffoosuckies shit ever03:56
kotatsuI think you can still enable write support in the kernel, although it's a good way to destroy your filesystem03:56
pregoodie5533, having an spare fat32 partition03:56
membreyaodie5533: yes it is ..you can get it so it's write as well03:57
robodexalthough the 10gb stepmania directory is pretty important :X03:57
kotatsunot sure, they changed the NTFS driver a while back03:57
membreyabut it's experimental03:57
membreyayou CAN compile the kernel with write support03:57
kotatsuyou'll have to compile your own kernel to get it to write03:57
kangaKOTATSU IS THAT THE CD OR IS THAT LITERATURE FOR WArt03:57
membreyaoh there is a 3rd party software out there03:57
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kotatsukanga: that's the CD itself03:57
odie5533membreya, such as what03:57
Burgundaviakanga: that is the cd03:57
kotatsukanga: you need bit torrent to download it03:57
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keffooanyone know how i sovle this bloody gnomebug? .. i cant change what app a file should use ?03:58
keffoothis is insane03:58
keffoo!03:58
kangaIVE GOT THAT ALREADY I JUST (sorry)need some onstalation instructions03:58
Xappesince they have to do "backwards engineering" of the ntfs driver, the write support is quite scary03:58
membreyaodie5533: http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/03:58
Burgundaviakeffoo: what bug?03:58
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keffooBurgundavia: i dunno, when i for example change what mediaplayer to play .mpg files.. i just cant box that radiobutton after i added VLC to the list03:58
keffoothat must be a bug right?03:58
kangavassie/kotatsu?03:59
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bwlangkeffoo: just because you don't know how to do it does not make it a bug... to change file associations you can right click on a file and choose properties... then add your prefered program to the opens with tab.03:59
keffoobwlang: oh, you gotta be a smart one?03:59
keffooi just told..03:59
kangaflaming?03:59
kangavassie u there?04:00
BurgundaviaBurgundavia: so you can add the app but not make it default?04:00
kotatsukanga: burn the .iso file to a CD04:00
keffooexactly04:00
kotatsukanga: then put the CD in your drive and reboot04:00
robodexgotta jet, bye04:00
keffooi can add it to the list with 'Add'04:00
keffoobut i cant 'select it'04:00
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keffooif you get what i mean?04:00
Burgundaviahmm04:00
keffooi can mark the program, but the radiobutton wont be boxed04:00
kangahave done that ok so there is no literature out there?04:01
onkarshindeJust tried hoary live inside Qemu emulator. GNOME 2.10 looks good.04:01
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kotatsuwell that sucks04:01
kotatsuthe update manager won't do a dist-upgrade04:01
kotatsuthat should be a preference setting04:01
kangaso cant launch linux from within windows?04:01
Burgundaviakotatsu: the update manager might have that functionality04:01
Burgundaviakotatsu: later04:02
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keffooBurgundavia: any idea?04:02
Burgundaviakotatsu: remember that it is for aunt tilly04:02
bwlangkeffoo: i don't type that fast... if you made your first post a real description my answer would have been different...04:02
Burgundaviakeffoo: sorry, no04:02
odie5533What is the best way to install an RPM on ubuntu?04:02
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Burgundaviaodie5533: alient04:02
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nirankotatsu: i think the "smart upgrade" is a dist-upgrade04:02
Burgundaviaodie5533: make that alien04:02
kotatsuBurgundavia: aunt tilly would probably be more confused about a dialog telling her packages can't be installed than just pulling down everything that's needed ;) (omg! my computer is broken!)04:02
Burgundaviakotatsu: that won't happen with a stable release04:02
odie5533what about installing from source?04:02
kotatsutrue04:02
Burgundaviaodie5533: alien converts rpm to deb04:03
odie5533how do I use the .deb file?04:03
KsEhow do i get support for wmv9 files04:03
kotatsuBurgundavia: actually it would, wouldn't it? kernel upgrades pull down module packages04:03
KsEon totem04:03
BurgundaviaKsE: w32codecs04:03
kotatsuniran: this is the update manager, not synaptic04:03
Burgundaviaodie5533: dpkg -i blah.deb04:03
kangakotatsu will i still be aqble to access the net and email etc?04:03
kotatsukanga: yes04:03
odie5533and... what about source?04:03
bwlangodie5533: don't be too tempted... you need to be careful with alien packages.  They can cause troubles...04:03
kangais it stable?04:03
terenwhy is there a /.dev/fb0 but no /dev/fb0?04:03
Burgundaviaodie5533: if you have source then you can compile it normally04:04
terensymlinking them doesnt work04:04
KsEwell i know about the win32 codecs but i dont know how to install em04:04
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odie5533Can you uninstall from source though?04:04
kotatsukanga: it's a preview release... there might still be some bugs04:04
BurgundaviaKsE: www.ubuntu.com/wiki/RestrictedFormats04:04
bwlangodie5533: you could compile and do make;make install... i don't recommend this... By going around the package manager your reduce it's value to almost nothing.04:04
Burgundaviaodie5533: some have a uninstall script04:04
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Burgundaviaodie5533: what are you trying to install?04:05
odie5533TeamSpeak04:05
kotatsuKsE: /usr/local/lib/codecs04:05
odie5533and various other things that have no rpm's04:05
bwlangodie5533: why not just make a deb? - you can use alien to give you a template from an rpm... then you can fix any quirks and have a nice package.04:05
odie5533How do I do that though04:05
bwlangodie5533: man alien... you can tell it to extract the rpm stuff leave all the intermediate stuff for you to chnage04:06
kotatsuodie5533: yes, you can "uninstall" from source... just delete the directory =)04:07
bwlangodie5533: if there is no rpm you'll need to start from scratch.. see the debian docs on packaging04:07
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hahuHow can i automatically start system services at boot time? (in debian there is rcconf, right?)04:08
bwlanghahu: update-rc.d04:08
hahubwlang, thx!04:08
aimscan someone tel me if there is any point in me pulling my hair out cos i cant get my IT8212 pci raid card to work04:09
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kotatsuI don't have a kernel source directory available atm; do the prepackaged linux kernels or headers come with the kernel docs?04:10
aimserm... how do i find that out?04:11
bwlangaims: i don't know that card... but i think anything but a 3ware or megaraid card is not worth the effort.  Software raid is better than a hardware raid card that you can't even monitor...04:11
aimsok thx :)04:12
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bwlangaims: 3ware is the best option... you can use smartd to monitor all the individual devices using -d 3ware,0-n04:14
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odie5533Can I do a search in the terminal?04:14
maswan3ware makes for a resonably many-ports sata jbod controller too04:14
maswanfor running sw raid on top of04:15
thoreauputicodie5533: sudo updatedb && locate ,searchterm>04:15
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thoreauputicodie5533: or use the find command04:15
odie5533can i find in subfolder?04:16
thoreauputicof course04:16
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kotatsuodie5533: $ find (folder) -(switches)04:16
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kotatsuodie5533: you can also use the GNOME search tool =)04:17
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odie5533not when all I have is a prompt ;D04:17
kotatsuthis is true04:17
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thoreauputicodie5533: "locate" is the easiest way04:17
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thoreauputiclocate generalterm | grep -i specificterm04:19
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aliWhen the offical version of hoary will be released (April) how will users running warty upgrade to hoary. Will hoary come in to the repositories of users running warty as a upgrade ?04:20
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j^does someone know how i can get  instead of * for04:21
j^entry = gtk_entry_new();04:21
j^gtk_entry_set_visibility(GTK_ENTRY(entry), FALSE);04:21
j^gksu/gksudo do that somehow04:22
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j^but i am not able to fine that in the source04:22
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