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sm | hi | 12:54 |
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mdke | howdy pardner | 12:54 |
mdke | sm, your call if you wanna try and test the zopeedit thing | 12:55 |
mdke | if you're busy, np | 12:55 |
sm | oh I forgot.. thanks | 12:55 |
mdke | seriously np | 12:55 |
sm | yes, can you try right now on ubuntu wiki TestPage | 12:55 |
mdke | it works on testpage last time i checked | 12:55 |
mdke | but not on other | 12:55 |
mdke | s | 12:55 |
sm | ok.. any page where it doesnt work.. show me | 12:56 |
mdke | ok hang on | 12:56 |
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mdke | hmm | 12:57 |
mdke | just worked on MatthewEast | 12:57 |
mdke | lol | 12:58 |
mdke | dammit | 12:58 |
mdke | just worked on ItalianDocumentation | 12:58 |
sm | drat :) | 12:58 |
mdke | well | 12:58 |
mdke | its good news | 12:59 |
mdke | :) | 12:59 |
mdke | you've put a curse on me tho | 12:59 |
mdke | worked on DocumentationArea | 12:59 |
sm | yay.. let me see | 01:00 |
mdke | i've reverted em | 01:00 |
mdke | could it be related to the amount of time spent on editing? these have been very brief of course | 01:00 |
mdke | its definitely working now | 01:01 |
mdke | tried also on GettingUbuntu | 01:01 |
sm | shouldn't be | 01:01 |
sm | ubuntu has squid caching things, but it's been reliable for me | 01:01 |
sm | DocumentationArea's purpose now is the starting point for user docs, am I right | 01:02 |
mdke | hmm | 01:02 |
mdke | sm, I haven't changed it | 01:02 |
mdke | but yeah i guess so | 01:02 |
mdke | i've started some testing pages for exploring a cleaner structure pursuant to that thread on the list that you and Mary were commenting on | 01:03 |
mdke | https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/IdeasForNewFrontPageStructure | 01:04 |
sm | good stuff | 01:07 |
mdke | hmm | 01:07 |
mdke | feeeeeedback | 01:07 |
sm | I think renaming DocumentationArea to UserDocumentation would be a good step | 01:08 |
mdke | would you write it on that page pls? also any further categories of documentation that might be good subcategories for that page | 01:08 |
mdke | that is a good idea i think | 01:08 |
mdke | got the structured text articles down into double figures today ;) | 01:09 |
mdke | nothing better than watching james bond on tv and converting wiki pages to moinmoin | 01:09 |
sm | I wrote it on the list already | 01:09 |
mdke | sm, thanks :) | 01:09 |
sm | I could just do it, that would be clear eh :) | 01:09 |
mdke | i don't mind doing it | 01:09 |
sm | this is a wiki.. it's just waiting for someone to feel strongly enough :) | 01:10 |
sm | I should do it and take the heat :) | 01:10 |
mdke | oh the rename | 01:10 |
mdke | yeah its not a problem | 01:10 |
mdke | aren't you the wikimaster anyhow? | 01:11 |
sm | I'm one of the volunteers with admin access.. but no special authority over anything | 01:11 |
mdke | hmm | 01:11 |
sm | changing.. done | 01:11 |
mdke | what is NewFrontPage? | 01:11 |
sm | at least I try not exercise any | 01:12 |
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mdke | i never saw that page before | 01:12 |
sm | wikimaster.. WikiMaster.. MasterOfWiki.. hmm, hmm.. | 01:12 |
mdke | damn i can't believe i didn't see that page | 01:13 |
sm | I 've seen it | 01:13 |
sm | can't remember if it's really the old page | 01:13 |
sm | I think it is | 01:13 |
mdke | its better than the current one :p | 01:14 |
sm | it's the old new old front page | 01:14 |
mdke | lol | 01:14 |
sm | that happens sometimes :) | 01:14 |
mdke | hmm | 01:14 |
mdke | whoa | 01:14 |
sm | I like those compact layouts.. the simple one was nice | 01:14 |
mdke | SimpleFrontPage? | 01:14 |
mdke | its a bit "html" | 01:15 |
mdke | a bit last summer | 01:15 |
sm | more efficient for a reader | 01:15 |
mdke | yeah i agree | 01:15 |
sm | but not as simple to edit.. not sure how to do it in moin actually | 01:15 |
mdke | not sure it can be done | 01:15 |
sm | there's tables.. I expect so | 01:15 |
mdke | html is a pain in the ass to edit except with zopeedit ;) | 01:15 |
sm | yeah.. in special cases it can be worth it I think | 01:16 |
sm | since the alternative is a less useful page | 01:16 |
mdke | but it is a good idea in principle, because then things can be split off into subpages | 01:16 |
mdke | a FrontPage with 5 or 6 links would be the way forward i think. DOCS, WIKI, TEAMS, COMMUNITY, POLICY etc | 01:16 |
mdke | you had to amend links to rename that doc did you? | 01:17 |
mdke | i thought they go automatically | 01:18 |
sm | they usually do.. and did this time | 01:19 |
sm | but I was fooled for a bit due to caching | 01:19 |
sm | had to shift reload | 01:19 |
mdke | hmm | 01:19 |
mdke | saw you deep in the polish and portugese docs ;) | 01:20 |
sm | that was zwiki | 01:20 |
mdke | no way? | 01:20 |
mdke | cool | 01:20 |
sm | way :) | 01:20 |
mdke | oh yeah | 01:20 |
mdke | you would have had to be really fast | 01:20 |
mdke | well you still get the credit | 01:20 |
sm | we've been keeping the FrontPage mostly free of subtopics.. I think I'll reparent that latest bunch away | 01:21 |
mdke | sure | 01:21 |
mdke | i'm doing that fairly often | 01:21 |
sm | cool | 01:21 |
mdke | my favourite is parenting userpages | 01:21 |
mdke | :( | 01:21 |
sm | just putting them at top level.. I'm sure there's a better place | 01:22 |
mdke | how do you do that? | 01:22 |
sm | drat this cache | 01:23 |
mdke | yeah | 01:23 |
sm | I switch to full mode in the zwiki skin (plone skin works too); open each immediate child in a new tab; click reparent button at bottom of each | 01:24 |
mdke | so reparent without any content in the box? | 01:24 |
sm | right, puts them at the top | 01:24 |
mdke | do you get the one where you log in and it gives you "page not found" and refers you to related links | 01:24 |
mdke | love it | 01:24 |
sm | yeah, that sucks | 01:25 |
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mdke | i filed a bug today actually on that, because it was annoying me so much | 01:25 |
mdke | hi hypatia | 01:25 |
hypatia | hi | 01:26 |
mdke | pleased to meet you | 01:26 |
mdke | <- matt | 01:26 |
mdke | YAY | 01:28 |
mdke | feedback on the wiki structure page | 01:28 |
mdke | what a star | 01:28 |
sm | mdke: can you point me that login bug ? I have search fatigue | 01:36 |
sm | oh was it on WikiWishlist ? | 01:36 |
mdke | no hang on | 01:37 |
mdke | sm 7839 | 01:37 |
sm | thanks | 01:39 |
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hypatia | I post to the lists occasionally :) | 01:40 |
mdke | hi :) | 01:41 |
sm | hi mary! | 01:41 |
sm | <- simon | 01:41 |
mdke | this is a great moment | 01:42 |
mdke | 3 great minds | 01:42 |
mdke | in the same place | 01:42 |
mdke | *coughs* | 01:46 |
mdke | <-- bed | 02:00 |
mdke | bye all | 02:00 |
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sm | can't solve it right now.. night all | 02:01 |
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=== froud grinds his teeth a customer asked to write an app in VB. | ||
froud | How to develop and build VB apps on Linux. I am darned if I am gonna work on Windoze just for this. | 07:55 |
Burgundavia | uh right | 08:04 |
Burgundavia | break out the bats | 08:04 |
froud | Burgundavia: hello | 08:21 |
froud | Hmmm, musing over KBasic | 08:22 |
froud | http://www.kbasic.de | 08:22 |
froud | Do you know anything about it | 08:22 |
froud | Burgundavia: did you get to the screen capt of BitTorrent | 08:25 |
Burgundavia | nope | 08:27 |
Burgundavia | will get one now | 08:27 |
froud | Burgundavia: thanks | 08:30 |
=== froud is like totally confused by the kbasic web site | ||
froud | penguins and kongi everywhere, but no nix download | 08:31 |
froud | ah I get it | 08:32 |
froud | he only has a preview ready for windows | 08:32 |
Burgundavia | that website is ouch | 08:33 |
Burgundavia | but a cool idea | 08:34 |
Burgundavia | I remember running into the line limit on an apple ] [ with basic | 08:34 |
Burgundavia | 64k lines I think | 08:34 |
Burgundavia | me and a friend | 08:34 |
froud | Burgundavia: thanks for that patch | 08:35 |
Burgundavia | totally forgot about it | 08:36 |
Burgundavia | I should do some looking at the release notes and quickguide tomorrow | 08:36 |
froud | hapens, I have made a review and marked status complete | 08:36 |
froud | What about User or Admin Guide | 08:37 |
froud | yeah the web site in eeihna | 08:38 |
froud | hey call more time, howzit maskie | 08:38 |
froud | maskie: you got any idea how to write VB6 on Linux | 08:39 |
Burgundavia | you can do VB.Net on *nix, but VB6? | 08:39 |
Burgundavia | as an aside, ms just announced that is not supported VB6 anymore | 08:40 |
froud | Yeah, but that is the spec I have | 08:40 |
froud | bsides I dont think VB6 will dies that fast | 08:41 |
froud | too many programmers | 08:41 |
Burgundavia | I don't think so either | 08:41 |
Burgundavia | This is a case of ms trying to push something that most people don't want | 08:41 |
Burgundavia | big surprise | 08:41 |
froud | yeah normally works that way | 08:41 |
Burgundavia | http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/infoworld/20050311/tc_infoworld/57636 | 08:42 |
froud | Oh well let's hope they will piss off enough ms vb devs so they move to Linux :-) | 08:43 |
Burgundavia | For the really adventurous, try XBasic, a BASIC compiler that runs under both Windows and Linux | 08:43 |
Burgundavia | from http://www.computerbooksonline.com/program/vb6dchap.htm | 08:43 |
Burgundavia | http://sourceforge.net/projects/vb4linux/ | 08:43 |
Burgundavia | that is what I grabbed in about 3 secs | 08:44 |
froud | yes I saw xbasic | 08:46 |
Burgundavia | I doubt any of them are actually useful | 08:47 |
froud | from vb4linux "So far, there are currently 3 developers for the VB4Linux project. We'll probably begin in about a week or so... Still looking for more developers!" | 08:47 |
Burgundavia | ouch | 08:48 |
Burgundavia | there seems to be a commercial app called REALBasic that seems to do what you need, on the outset | 08:50 |
Burgundavia | only $400 USD | 08:50 |
Burgundavia | I'll take 3 | 08:50 |
Burgundavia | and one for the dog | 08:50 |
froud | Yes, and I want it open | 08:50 |
froud | :-( | 08:50 |
froud | seems like a simple thing | 08:51 |
Burgundavia | can you convince the client to use python or something else? | 08:51 |
froud | No he is a ms preacher ;-) | 08:52 |
froud | it's ms or nothing | 08:52 |
froud | he wants the source | 08:52 |
Burgundavia | so why does it need to run on linux? | 08:52 |
Burgundavia | wait a sec | 08:53 |
froud | he does not | 08:53 |
froud | he needs it on windows | 08:53 |
Burgundavia | he wants the source and he wants ms? | 08:53 |
froud | yes, but he pays handsomely for the src | 08:53 |
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Burgundavia | can you sell him on the wonders of Ironpython and .Net then? | 08:54 |
Burgundavia | the ironpython dev is a microsoftie | 08:54 |
froud | He he, he wants it VB because it will integrate in a much bigger system | 08:54 |
Burgundavia | well, looks like someone gets to use xp then | 08:55 |
froud | you know ERP system | 08:55 |
Burgundavia | nope | 08:55 |
froud | no his system is an ERP | 08:55 |
=== froud smiles at his inbox, six modules for ICDL released as free | ||
froud | now that's the kinda projects I want more of :-) | 08:57 |
Burgundavia | what is ICDL? | 08:57 |
froud | Today I must find a way to automate porting this stuff to Docbook | 08:58 |
froud | International Computer Drivers License | 08:58 |
froud | The Shuttleworth Foundation is releasing it as a free and open project under CC-BY-SA 2.0 | 08:58 |
froud | very cool | 08:59 |
Burgundavia | ah, wouldn't be nice to have that kind of money | 08:59 |
Burgundavia | move worlds with it | 08:59 |
cc | froud: a CC-By-SA ICDL ? | 08:59 |
froud | He he they have a plan | 08:59 |
froud | cc: yes | 08:59 |
cc | froud: where is it ? | 08:59 |
Burgundavia | froud: "The Synaptic package manager also now includes support to upgrade your Ubuntu Distribution." from the release notes | 08:59 |
Burgundavia | what does this mean exactly? | 09:00 |
Burgundavia | is this update warty-->hoary? | 09:00 |
froud | cc: not yet released I have to d osome spade work over the netx few months | 09:00 |
froud | Burgundavia: yes | 09:00 |
froud | Burgundavia: works well too | 09:00 |
cc | froud: spade work? | 09:00 |
cc | i.e. you're writing it ? | 09:00 |
froud | cc: no it is already written, I need to port it to docbook, setup the web and do the repos stuff etc | 09:01 |
cc | froud: oh, is there a chance i can take a gander at it ? | 09:01 |
froud | cc: when it is released it will be free for all to gander | 09:01 |
Burgundavia | froud: what is status of the release notes? Can I change to wording of that sentence to make a little clearer? | 09:01 |
froud | Burgundavia: sure | 09:02 |
Burgundavia | froud: ok | 09:02 |
froud | cc: you have an interest in ICDL? | 09:02 |
cc | froud: so it isn't now, ok, thanks | 09:02 |
cc | froud: yes, i made a similar proposal before (not to canonical, but linux-aus) | 09:03 |
froud | cc: the icdl has written their materials and with tsf will release it free | 09:03 |
froud | cc: this is great news | 09:03 |
cc | froud: but they're not OSS based | 09:03 |
cc | the ICDL materials are windoze based | 09:03 |
froud | cc: no but they are comming over | 09:04 |
froud | cc: this is ICDL using OOo | 09:04 |
cc | froud: oh, that is really interesting and good to note | 09:04 |
cc | rocking. | 09:04 |
cc | i had interet to base it off stuf fi did before | 09:04 |
froud | good news here in Africa | 09:04 |
cc | at http://training.bytebot.net | 09:04 |
froud | he he lol you have that bookmarked too | 09:05 |
cc | no, thats at the top of my head | 09:05 |
cc | thats my work :P | 09:05 |
froud | what's your work? | 09:05 |
cc | the stuff at training.bytebot.net | 09:05 |
cc | the OOo and Linux stuff. old but mine | 09:06 |
froud | really | 09:06 |
froud | cool dude | 09:06 |
froud | you may be interested then in the LearnLinux project | 09:06 |
froud | http://learnlinux.tsf.org.za | 09:06 |
froud | the doc-team will hopefully be creating an Ubuntu version of it | 09:07 |
froud | the src is already in svn in my branch | 09:07 |
cc | ah, nice | 09:07 |
froud | you game to devel an ubuntu version | 09:07 |
cc | definitely | 09:07 |
cc | which is why i thought of icdl a while ago | 09:07 |
froud | do you have a working copy of the repos | 09:08 |
Burgundavia | froud: I got a couple of errors with the release notes | 09:08 |
cc | no | 09:08 |
Burgundavia | Entity 'distro-rev' not defined | 09:08 |
froud | Burgundavia: he he hold | 09:08 |
Burgundavia | ? | 09:08 |
Burgundavia | it also said that it can't parse global.ent | 09:09 |
froud | no document is valid | 09:09 |
Burgundavia | ok | 09:09 |
froud | did you svn up from the trunk lately | 09:09 |
froud | we moved release notes | 09:09 |
froud | now in releasenotes/ | 09:09 |
Burgundavia | yep, synced this morning | 09:09 |
Burgundavia | nothing come by but our stuff since | 09:10 |
froud | Hmm do you have releasenotes/ | 09:10 |
froud | cc: learnlinux stuff is in my branch | 09:10 |
Burgundavia | yep | 09:11 |
froud | cc: do you have a working copy of branches/ | 09:11 |
froud | Burgundavia: try again | 09:11 |
froud | it validates on my system | 09:11 |
cc | froud: no, but if you point me to instructions, i'll co it now | 09:11 |
froud | and trickie has not reported an problem | 09:11 |
froud | cc: so you have used svn before | 09:12 |
cc | yes | 09:12 |
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froud | cc: best thing is to do svn co https://docteam.ubuntu.com/repos | 09:12 |
froud | that will give you tags/ branches/ trunk/ and vendor/ | 09:12 |
froud | after Hoary I will merge my branch into trunk/ | 09:13 |
Burgundavia | aww crap | 09:13 |
froud | Burgundavia: why | 09:13 |
Burgundavia | after 756, it won't even load | 09:13 |
Burgundavia | /home/rasputin/Ubuntu%20Documentation%20Team/trunk/releasenotes/release-notes.xml:11: parser error : StartTag: invalid element name | 09:13 |
Burgundavia | <<<<<<< .mine | 09:13 |
froud | dude it loads here | 09:14 |
froud | from HEAD | 09:14 |
froud | you have a patch conflicting | 09:15 |
froud | perhaps you did a commit before doing svn up | 09:15 |
froud | it's only bken in your WC | 09:15 |
Burgundavia | ya, I regrabbed from svn and it works now | 09:15 |
froud | cc: there is over 1400 pages in LearnLinux | 09:16 |
froud | cc: we will need to co-ordinate our effort very well in order to do it | 09:16 |
cc | froud: hmm, sure | 09:17 |
froud | cc: any ideas are welcome | 09:17 |
froud | cc: we dont have to keep it as it is | 09:17 |
froud | cc: the result will be the will of the community | 09:17 |
froud | cc: we will however give credit to the original team | 09:18 |
froud | cc: and add credit of those who contribute | 09:18 |
froud | cc: so structure changes as well as content changes are welcome | 09:19 |
froud | cc: btw there is no desktop stuff in there | 09:20 |
cc | froud: how big is the check out ? | 09:20 |
froud | cc: its all cli | 09:20 |
cc | repos/trunk/images is getting largeish | 09:20 |
froud | cc: yes, but once you have it the rest is easy | 09:21 |
cc | froud: how large is the initial co ? | 09:21 |
froud | no idea | 09:21 |
froud | cc in my wc it is 94.5 MB but that includes management files which take a lot of space. yours should be less | 09:24 |
cc | froud: thanks. makes me feel better ;-) | 09:26 |
froud | cc: scary stuff? | 09:26 |
cc | froud: no, bandwidth is an issue | 09:26 |
cc | i'd prefer to do it from 2am onwards when traffic is free if its really large | 09:26 |
froud | cc: where are you co.za | 09:26 |
cc | froud: australia | 09:26 |
froud | never had bandwidth problems while in au | 09:27 |
froud | bigpond cable is awesome | 09:27 |
cc | we have download quotas/caps | 09:27 |
cc | optus cable is what i'm on | 09:27 |
froud | yes | 09:27 |
cc | i get 12gb/month | 09:27 |
froud | I had that problem a few times | 09:27 |
cc | and thats not enough when tracking unstable releases | 09:27 |
froud | luck you we get 3gb | 09:27 |
cc | well, yeah, 3gb last time. they recently upgraded us | 09:28 |
froud | so what do you do when you are not working on FOSS | 09:28 |
cc | froud: not much, i'm a foss person | 09:28 |
froud | paid to work by who? | 09:30 |
froud | go on you can say | 09:32 |
froud | we wont hold it against you | 09:32 |
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froud | cc: nice smile | 09:36 |
cc | froud: hah | 09:36 |
cc | sorry, was awol for a bit | 09:36 |
cc | be back later, definitely | 09:36 |
froud | ok | 09:37 |
froud | strange how when the hard questions come people always must go | 09:38 |
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cc | froud: i am unemployed, completely. i get paid by no one. i occasionally do contractual gigs here and there | 09:40 |
cc | froud: and i'm mainly involved in the fedora project; would love to get paid OSS work, definitely | 09:40 |
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mdke | tu-it-dev | 11:10 |
mdke | good morning | 11:11 |
Burgundavia | salut | 11:11 |
enrico | hi | 11:12 |
mdke | enrico, i've subscribed to the wiki, how does that script work? | 11:15 |
=== enrico checks | ||
enrico | I use it on a Maildir-format mailbox (one file per mail) | 11:20 |
enrico | You cd inside the Maildir and run the script: it prints a line per message, with some stats | 11:20 |
enrico | Then save the output, and run wsaggregate on it | 11:21 |
mdke | enrico, ah i c | 11:28 |
mdke | enrico, it won't work on an mbox | 11:28 |
mdke | ? | 11:28 |
enrico | Uhm, probably not | 11:28 |
mdke | ho capito | 11:28 |
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mdke | ping mako | 01:08 |
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jsgotangco | greets | 04:23 |
=== froud looks at amu and Qerub for 1st draft review of document "Using K Network Configuration." Source can be obtain @ https://docteam.ubuntu.com/repos/branches/froud/kubuntu/knetwork-conf For easy reading see http://www.inwords.co.za/kubuntu/knetwork-conf/knetwork-conf.html. Patches and input to sean@inwords.co.za or to ubuntu-doc@lists.ubuntu.com | ||
=== froud looking for docteam contributors | ||
froud | jsgotangco: hello | 04:24 |
jsgotangco | how to start in the docteam? | 04:27 |
froud | jsgotangco: what do you want to do, wiki or Docbook? | 04:30 |
froud | Starting point for all is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DocumentationTeam | 04:30 |
jsgotangco | well i have been doing wiki work for sometime | 04:32 |
froud | Do you want to continue or are you looking to learn somethng new | 04:34 |
jsgotangco | well i want to go further | 04:34 |
jsgotangco | something new too | 04:34 |
jsgotangco | :D | 04:34 |
froud | ok, do you know docbook | 04:34 |
froud | it's not a problem if you don't | 04:35 |
jsgotangco | i have no idea | 04:35 |
froud | Ok best thing is to see if you can get through this http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DocteamStepByStepRepository | 04:35 |
froud | Follow the instructions if you have questions, shout and I will help | 04:36 |
froud | It's easier than it sounds | 04:36 |
jsgotangco | ok ill check it out | 04:37 |
froud | cool, once you have a feel we will get you started on something | 04:37 |
froud | are you using GNOME or KDE | 04:37 |
jsgotangco | im on gnome | 04:38 |
froud | OK running HOARY | 04:38 |
jsgotangco | yeah | 04:38 |
froud | Cool dude | 04:38 |
froud | OK you will also want to subscribe to mailing lists | 04:39 |
froud | http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/ForTheHasty | 04:39 |
froud | user-list | 04:39 |
froud | http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-doc | 04:39 |
froud | commit-list | 04:39 |
froud | http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-doc-commits | 04:39 |
jsgotangco | oh cool Ill subscribe then | 04:40 |
jsgotangco | btw | 04:40 |
jsgotangco | i got confirmation for ubuntudownunder | 04:40 |
froud | Cool | 04:41 |
froud | Tools you need to install | 04:41 |
froud | Docbook | 04:41 |
froud | Docbook XSL | 04:41 |
froud | xmllint | 04:41 |
froud | sudo apt-get insstall docbook | 04:41 |
froud | sudo apt-get install docbook-xsl | 04:41 |
froud | sudo apt-get install xsltproc | 04:42 |
jsgotangco | done | 04:43 |
froud | sudo apt-get install libxml2-utils | 04:44 |
froud | Hmm. That should so it for now | 04:45 |
jsgotangco | ok ill try out first that stepbystep link and see if i can manage that | 04:46 |
froud | C c'ing ya ;-) | 04:46 |
froud | welcome to the Docteam BTW | 04:46 |
mdke | hi jsgotangco | 04:47 |
mdke | welcome | 04:47 |
jsgotangco | thanks thanks | 04:47 |
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abelli | ciao | 05:06 |
jsgotangco | well i gotta catch some Zzzzzz | 05:20 |
jsgotangco | later people | 05:20 |
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