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| f00fbug | rpm = evil :) | 12:00 |
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| xenonite | i thing nero is supplied as rpm | 12:01 |
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| NeoGeo64 | dude | 12:01 |
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| NeoGeo64 | apt-get sucks | 12:02 |
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| NeoGeo64 | i cant do anything with it | 12:02 |
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| LinuxJones | NeoGeo64, lol | 12:02 |
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| NeoGeo64 | root@box:/home/tony # apt-get install nvidia-glx | 12:02 |
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| NeoGeo64 | Reading Package Lists... Done | 12:02 |
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| NeoGeo64 | Building Dependency Tree... Done | 12:02 |
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| NeoGeo64 | Package nvidia-glx is not available, but is referred to by another package. | 12:02 |
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| NeoGeo64 | This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or | 12:02 |
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| NeoGeo64 | is only available from another source | 12:02 |
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| xenonite | hm you have to print the source code to beat it | 12:02 |
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| NeoGeo64 | E: Package nvidia-glx has no installation candidate | 12:02 |
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| NeoGeo64 | i cant do anything | 12:02 |
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| tsume | where can I get kernel 2.6.8.11? | 12:02 |
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| tsume | i'm trying to see if ther is a binary | 12:02 |
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| tsume | is there | 12:02 |
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| tsume | ? | 12:02 |
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| LinuxJones | NeoGeo64, you need to add the universe and restricted repositories | 12:02 |
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| NeoGeo64 | how | 12:03 |
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| conner | tsume: I haven't seen any packages of 2.6.11 yet. The latest is 2.6.10-5. | 12:03 |
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| NeoGeo64 | and what are they | 12:03 |
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| nick_m_ubuntu | hi everyone. is there a wiki or some info on changing the kernel in the hoary livecd? | 12:03 |
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| tsume | conner: :( | 12:03 |
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| tsume | conner: will there be a .11 for hoary? | 12:03 |
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| conner | tsume: I hope so. I was looking for it earlier and couldn't find it. I'm running hoary right now. | 12:03 |
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| LinuxJones | NeoGeo64, are you in x64 or x86 ? | 12:03 |
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| NeoGeo64 | x86 | 12:04 |
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| tsume | conner: I hope so too | 12:04 |
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| LinuxJones | NeoGeo64, >> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto | 12:05 |
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| tsume | :( my batteries are dying | 12:05 |
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| tsume | wireless mouse :) | 12:05 |
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| tsume | wireless laptop | 12:05 |
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| tsume | wireless power :) | 12:05 |
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| shmoolik | is there any good burning program for Gnome? | 12:06 |
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| LinuxJones | NeoGeo64, you should make sure you have main restricted & universe enabled | 12:06 |
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| inphlict | What command will let me remove a directory | 12:06 |
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| LinuxJones | shmoolik, graveman | 12:06 |
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| JDigital | Hhow do I tell how many meggerbytes free space I have left? | 12:06 |
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| inphlict | I can't seem to do it with rm ro rmdir | 12:06 |
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| tsume | JDigital: df -h | 12:06 |
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| nick_m_ubuntu | Shaquile, there is built in cd burning.. places->cd/dvd creator | 12:06 |
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| xenonite | inphlict, do a rm -r | 12:07 |
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| shmoolik | LinuxJones, thanks | 12:07 |
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| inphlict | I get | 12:07 |
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| inphlict | rm: cannot remove directory `/media/win_c': Permission denied | 12:07 |
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| nick_m_ubuntu | sorry, shmoolik | 12:07 |
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| inphlict | I unmounted it already | 12:07 |
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| inphlict | and all | 12:07 |
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| xenonite | inphlict, you have to be root | 12:07 |
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| Shaquile | nick_m_ubuntu: Mkay... | 12:07 |
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| LinuxJones | shmoolik, it's very good, there is also gnomebaker which will require a tiny bit of work to get installed | 12:07 |
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| inphlict | how do I get into root, sorry I'm new | 12:07 |
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| xenonite | inphlict, sudo rm -r | 12:07 |
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| inphlict | ah crap | 12:08 |
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| inphlict | keep forgeting sudo lol | 12:08 |
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| inphlict | thnx | 12:08 |
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| xenonite | np | 12:08 |
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| inphlict | thanks worked well | 12:08 |
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| xenonite | no problem ;-) | 12:08 |
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| shmoolik | LinuxJones, the question is does it worth it ? ("gnomebaker") | 12:08 |
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| TheAngryPenguin | anyone know of a good Wi-Fi access point browser? | 12:09 |
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| LinuxJones | shmoolik, I think you will be very happy with graveman :) | 12:09 |
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| inphlict | can I make directories with spaces in linux? | 12:09 |
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| shmoolik | LinuxJones, okay man thanks :) | 12:09 |
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| inphlict | does anyone know | 12:10 |
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| inphlict | if I'm allowed to have spaces in directories? | 12:10 |
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| mjr | yes you are | 12:10 |
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| inphlict | k | 12:10 |
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| JDahl | inphlict, yes, but then you need to use quotations, e.g. cd "my dir with spaces" | 12:10 |
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| Blissex | inphlict: but it is not a good idea | 12:10 |
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| inphlict | I see | 12:10 |
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| Blissex | inphlict: using spaces in any file/directory names in UNIX/Linux is not a good idea | 12:10 |
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| xenonite | inphlict, write a \ in front of the space | 12:11 |
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| mjr | a matter of taste really | 12:11 |
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| Blissex | inphlict: use underscores instead of spaces, or dashes. | 12:11 |
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| ian_brasil | anyone working (or know someone working) on translating the unofficial guide into portuguese?? | 12:11 |
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| shmoolik | LinuxJones, yeah !!! graveman is grate !!! just the thingy i was looking for !!! thanks | 12:11 |
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| inphlict | alright I will | 12:11 |
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| LinuxJones | shmoolik, :) | 12:11 |
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| declan | I've never used this x-chat thing before, so I hope it's ok to just throw a question out there. Is there an easy way to shift my /home directory into a new partition. Do I simply create the partition, and then copy the contents into it. How do I make sure that the partition is mounted as /home? | 12:11 |
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| Blissex | people who uses spaces in filenames are begging for trouble with shell scripts and so on | 12:11 |
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| eryco | hey people i see ubuntu has made the top downloaded distro @ distrowatch | 12:11 |
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| xenonite | inphlict, i use spaces very often, it is a matter of taste | 12:12 |
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| Blissex | declan: what you say is mostly ok. | 12:12 |
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| jmki | declan: copying is fine.. use cp -a to make sure all the permissions and stuff is fine | 12:12 |
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| LinuxJones | eryco, for good reason :P | 12:12 |
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| declan | Even the hidden files will move? | 12:12 |
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| jmki | declan: and to mount your new partition to /home edit /etc/fstab | 12:12 |
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| mjr | Blissex, only if they are into buggy scripting | 12:12 |
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| shmoolik | i want to ask anouther small thingy :) is there any download program like FlashGet ? | 12:12 |
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| eryco | am now on a redhat box and an ubuntu cd ready for install so how difficult is the install | 12:12 |
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| Blissex | mjr: there are zillions of buggy scripts unfortunately... | 12:13 |
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| jmki | declan: for example if your partition is /dev/hdb1 then add line like: /dev/hdb1 /home ext3 defaults 0 0 | 12:13 |
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| xenonite | eryco, do you want to preserve your dat? | 12:13 |
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| xenonite | a | 12:13 |
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| jmki | declan: with ext3 being what ever is the partitions filesystem | 12:13 |
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| declan | It's strange that the Warty default didn't give you a separate /home partition. What is the reasoning behind that, does anyone know? | 12:13 |
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| eryco | my dat? | 12:13 |
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| Blissex | mjr: it is just begging for trouble and complications... Of course one can make it work, it is just not worth the additional trouble, | 12:13 |
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| mjr | Blissex, good for me none of them have caused trouble on my home system, then | 12:13 |
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| jmki | declan: why should it give? normal desktop users don't get much out of separate /home directory | 12:14 |
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| Blissex | mjr: then _you_ explain to n00bs how to use '-print0' and '-0' on 'find'/'xargs' or whatever... | 12:14 |
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| usual | what version of fontconfig is borked in hoary? | 12:14 |
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| jmki | declan: and powerusers know howto change the partitioning themselves | 12:14 |
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| mjr | declan, extraneous partitions on a desktop system just increase complexity and decrease flexibility | 12:14 |
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| declan | It's just handier if you upgrade from scratch. Is it not? | 12:14 |
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| inphlict | How do I get my mounts to appear on my desktop? | 12:14 |
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| eryco | xenonite: what is my dat? damn acronymns | 12:14 |
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| inphlict | I made 2 | 12:14 |
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| inphlict | but only 1 appears? | 12:14 |
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| jmki | declan: well, that's true | 12:14 |
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| declan | I now have hoary, but when it is released properly it might be nice to reinstall from there. | 12:15 |
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| inphlict | Does anyone know? | 12:15 |
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| inphlict | I made 2 mounts in media of my windows drives | 12:15 |
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| inphlict | and only 1 appears on desktop | 12:15 |
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| xenonite | sorry for the type, eryco | 12:15 |
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| xenonite | data | 12:15 |
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| inphlict | Does anyone know? | 12:16 |
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| inphlict | It must be something minor | 12:17 |
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| inphlict | I can't get one of the mounts to appear on desktop | 12:17 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | nice this font is cool | 12:17 |
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| inphlict | also how can I rename files on desktop | 12:17 |
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| xenonite | ^thehatsrule^, which font? | 12:18 |
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| inphlict | yeah which font are u using? | 12:18 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | lol.. just looks funny | 12:19 |
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| inphlict | the stable release runs much better | 12:19 |
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| declan | Right, thanks for your help peoples. Good luck! | 12:19 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | OCR extended | 12:19 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | lol | 12:19 |
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| ian_brasil | cool..we get on with the translation ...anyone interested in helping so to #ubuntu-br | 12:20 |
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| SeeleyUSMC | Let me get this right...Ubuntu has support for wireless cards? So my Atheros abg card in my laptop should work fine from the get-go? | 12:20 |
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| f00fbug | SeeleyUSMC, perhaps | 12:21 |
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| f00fbug | if ! there is always ndiswrapper | 12:21 |
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| LinuxJones | SeeleyUSMC, >> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards | 12:21 |
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| mjr | SeeleyUSMC, atheros are supported with the restricted modules packages | 12:22 |
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| mjr | (perhaps not on all architectures, I don't know) | 12:22 |
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| inphlict | hmm | 12:26 |
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| inphlict | Is there any themes for text colors you could download for xchat | 12:27 |
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| raydogg_ | where are the names of printer devices stored so i can share it via samba ? | 12:29 |
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| djst | Jesterace, LinuxJones: ok, i'm back. i got nvidia to run again, and here's what i did: installed linux-image-2.6.10-5-686-smp and linux-restricted-modules-2.6.10-5-686-smp, THEN ran nvidia-glx-setup enable | 12:29 |
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| djst | appearantly, nvidia kernel doesn't work with just any linux image | 12:30 |
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| LinuxJones | djst, great :) | 12:30 |
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| djst | from the description of the restricted packages: "Non-free Linux 2.6.10 modules on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV SMP | 12:30 |
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| djst | This package provides restricted modules for Linux version 2.6.10 on | 12:30 |
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| djst | Pentium Pro/Celeron/Pentium II/Pentium III/Pentium IV with SMP support." | 12:30 |
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| Ephemeral | how do i get KUBUNTU? | 12:30 |
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| djst | "Currently the following modules are included: [...] nvidia [...] These modules are "restricted" because they are not available under a completely Free licence." | 12:31 |
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| Quest-Master | Ephermal: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop | 12:31 |
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| Quest-Master | Ephermal: You need Hoary though | 12:31 |
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| Ephemeral | ah | 12:31 |
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| Ephemeral | whats Hoary? | 12:31 |
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| djst | Jesterace: so you don't need the cd, you just need the "restricted" package for your kernelm which doesn't exist for all kernel images | 12:31 |
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| Ephemeral | testing? | 12:31 |
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| Quest-Master | The next version of Hoary | 12:31 |
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| Quest-Master | It's at Preview Release | 12:31 |
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| Quest-Master | I am using it right now | 12:31 |
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| declan_ | He means the next version of Ubuntu, I think | 12:31 |
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| Ephemeral | Quest, how do i find out what ive got? | 12:31 |
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| Quest-Master | It's just as stable as Warty for me. | 12:32 |
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| Quest-Master | declan_: My bad, yes. | 12:32 |
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| djst | Jesterace, LinuxJones: thanks both for your help! i now understand this a bit better, i think | 12:32 |
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| Quest-Master | Ephermal: You most likely have Warty | 12:32 |
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| dodger | for me, too | 12:32 |
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| LinuxJones | Ephemeral, cat /etc/issue | 12:32 |
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| Ephemeral | david@ubuntu:~ $ cat /etc/issue | 12:32 |
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| Ephemeral | Ubuntu 4.10 "Warty Warthog" \n \l | 12:32 |
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| Ephemeral | hmm, how do i get Hoary? | 12:33 |
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| Ephemeral | ive got universe added | 12:33 |
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| Ephemeral | if that helps? | 12:33 |
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| thenuke | Ephemeral: you should about always check the wiki for help first :) | 12:33 |
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| thenuke | and then ask irc | 12:33 |
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| LinuxJones | djst, :) | 12:33 |
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| davix | how can i kill hw:0 (creating alsa driver ... hw:0|hw:0|1024|2|48000|0|0|nomon|swmeter|-|32bit the playback device "hw:0" is already in use. Please stop the application using it and run JACK again) | 12:33 |
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| dodger | you have to make a dist upgrade. i guess you'll find some info in the wiki | 12:34 |
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| declan_ | I went to synaptic, repositories, changed the word "warty" for "hoary", then chose Smart Upgade, and waited for an age. | 12:34 |
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| declan_ | It worked a dream | 12:34 |
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| BigIslandVegan | Any body know to access bluetooth admin / setup stuff on ubuntu ppc? | 12:34 |
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| BigIslandVegan | hoary | 12:34 |
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| Ephemeral | hmm looks like all i do is change the repositories? | 12:34 |
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| ian | using a fresh 4.10 install on a thinkpad here and the right alt key shows up as a special key "Alt_R" in Keyboard Shortcuts preferences dialog. so you can't do Alt-A because hitting Alt sets it to "Alt_R". It also screws up desktop switching using Ctrl-Alt-arrows. (All of this applies only to the right alt key, the left one works fine) | 12:34 |
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| LinuxJones | Ephemeral, >> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HoaryUpgradeNotes | 12:34 |
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| declan_ | That's what I did. Change all the "warty" for "hoary" and upgrade. It takes time, though | 12:35 |
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| dodger | that's how i did it, too. works like a charm. | 12:35 |
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| ian | declan_: how long? | 12:35 |
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| dodger | about 1.5 hrs. | 12:35 |
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| shmoolik | LinuxJones, i must say that gnomebaker is much better then graveman .... i had some problems with graveman... | 12:36 |
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| declan_ | Something like that. | 12:36 |
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| declan_ | I did the upgrade to see if I could get the sound to work. It did. If there's no reason to upgrade, then why risk it. But it solved my sound problem, so it was worth it. | 12:37 |
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| Ephemeral | LinuxJones, im confused, it says Hoary has been released | 12:37 |
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| Ephemeral | so why didnt Warty auto upgrade to Hoary? | 12:37 |
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| Ephemeral | ah my mistake | 12:38 |
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| inc | sup channel | 12:38 |
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| Ephemeral | NOT released | 12:38 |
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| Ephemeral | :S | 12:38 |
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| ian | Ephemeral: some words are extra-important :) | 12:38 |
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| Ephemeral | hehe | 12:38 |
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| Ephemeral | im tired :/ | 12:38 |
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| [FiDO] | has anyone tried to get lirc working with their tv card remotes | 12:38 |
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| davix | how can i kill hw:0 (creating alsa driver ... hw:0|hw:0|1024|2|48000|0|0|nomon|swmeter|-|32bit the playback device "hw:0" is already in use. Please stop the application using it and run JACK again) | 12:39 |
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| LinuxJones | Ephemeral, it's not officialy released till April 5th or 6th it's a Preview Release | 12:39 |
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| Ephemeral | ian is it safe to do a smart upgrade,ive changed all sources to Hoary | 12:39 |
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| inc | any familiar with tape drives? | 12:39 |
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| Ephemeral | ? | 12:39 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | ooo tape drives | 12:39 |
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| LinuxJones | Ephemeral, yes use smart for the upgrade | 12:39 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | for win95, yes :P | 12:39 |
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| inc | ^thehatsrule^: lol winows | 12:39 |
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| inc | more evil inside | 12:40 |
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| inc | i ran this tar cvf /dev/hdd /home | 12:40 |
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| LinuxJones | Ephemeral, by clicking smart it's like doing apt-get dist-upgrade, It automatically upgrades you to Hoary and downloads any additional packages required by the upgrade | 12:40 |
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| inc | and get this tar: /dev/hdd: Wrote only 8192 of 10240 bytes | 12:41 |
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| inc | tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now | 12:41 |
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| Ephemeral | Ok thanks | 12:41 |
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| Ephemeral | Im running the 64-bit distro, looks like the original CD i used to nstall was ancient, hopefully i'll get a new ISO on 5th/6th | 12:41 |
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| Ephemeral | the Hoary 64 | 12:41 |
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| HrdwrBoB | Ephemeral: warty is still the current stable release | 12:42 |
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| LinuxJones | Ephemeral, you will be upgraded to more recent packages long before the cd arrives :) | 12:42 |
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| Ephemeral | ah | 12:42 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | how long is that long? | 12:43 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | a week? :/ | 12:43 |
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| Ephemeral | out of interest is there any area for users to suggest packages? | 12:44 |
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| LinuxJones | ^thehatsrule^, Hoary get's released early April the cd's will probably go out within a few weeks-a month past that | 12:44 |
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| Ephemeral | to be included on the main CD | 12:44 |
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| drspin | anyond used the loopback method for writing to NTFS partitions???????? | 12:44 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | ah guess thats alright | 12:44 |
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| LinuxJones | Ephemeral, you can request packages but the 700 meg cd limit is getting close to full :) | 12:44 |
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| chickenman | i better be going to bed it's almost midnight :P see you later people | 12:45 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | im in no hurry to upgrade | 12:45 |
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| Ephemeral | the one i'd suggest is FLAC decoder/plugin by default... | 12:45 |
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| Ephemeral | very minor thing though | 12:45 |
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| Ephemeral | the only thing i cant do in Ubuntu is 3d acceleration, which is ATIs fault | 12:46 |
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| Ephemeral | :@ | 12:46 |
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| Ephemeral | i need an Nvidia card | 12:46 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | which card? | 12:46 |
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| Ephemeral | 9800Pro | 12:46 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | oo nice! | 12:46 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | and what did you try? | 12:47 |
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| LinuxJones | Ephemeral, that card is supported in Hoary I think | 12:47 |
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| Ephemeral | i cant remember what version i tried but i gave up | 12:47 |
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| Ephemeral | i heard the performance was awful anyway | 12:47 |
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| Ephemeral | you need an Nvidia card to play games | 12:47 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | no... if i could get it working on old cards on different linuxes.. | 12:47 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | then it should be the same for ubuntu no? | 12:48 |
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| LinuxJones | ATI have great hardware but their drivers have always sucked | 12:48 |
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| Ephemeral | im using the 64bit distro as well though | 12:48 |
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| Ephemeral | so i would need 64 bit ATI drivers? | 12:48 |
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| LinuxJones | ohh | 12:48 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | nah, the catalyst drivers rocked for radeons | 12:48 |
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| tsaphah | so.. I've been hearing a lot about ubuntu lately..how is it for exisiting packages/ package control? | 12:49 |
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| ells | LinuxJones, agree, ATI good company bad drivers | 12:49 |
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| LinuxJones | ells, yeah | 12:49 |
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| Somazx | I'm finding two installs of ubuntu won't allow Zend Studio to do sftp to them when I can ssh in just fine using the same account info. My guess is some option in the config file is preventing Zend from loggin in. Any gueses as to what that would be? | 12:49 |
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| ells | I use to use an ATI Rage 128. always had issues | 12:49 |
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| LinuxJones | ells, I msut have applied for 25 jobs with them neve even got a phone call ;P | 12:50 |
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| LinuxJones | *never | 12:50 |
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| Ephemeral | best distro out there tsaphah, this coming from a newish user... ive tried a lot, and only Ubuntu and Mandrake gave me lasting immpressions | 12:50 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | lol, i have ati rage pro turbo's | 12:50 |
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| ells | LinuxJones, figures | 12:50 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | its fine for me | 12:50 |
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| drspin | funny -- I got a call from intel this morning -- and I just started a new job at 2wire http://www.2wire.com | 12:50 |
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| ells | thehatsrule: maybe they are better. have not been impressed with them in windows or linux, for me | 12:50 |
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| LinuxJones | tsaphah, Ubuntu is built on Debian Unstable so packages are very recent and package management is awesome with apt | 12:51 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | hm... i got 3 of these similar cards, all 8mb agp 2x | 12:51 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | dont use them much tho, anymore | 12:51 |
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| tsaphah | nods, is it more stable than debian unstable? Last time I tried it on this sytem I had all sorts of problems. | 12:52 |
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| geneo93 | hoary seems pretty damn stable to me | 12:52 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | heh | 12:53 |
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| LinuxJones | tsaphah, Ubuntu is not even a year old and it's already probably the best distro round IMHO | 12:54 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | i just dl'd v4... | 12:54 |
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| Somazx | nm figured it out | 12:54 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | seriously?! | 12:54 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | wow, id thought itd be here longer | 12:54 |
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| RUF | Calaboongaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa | 12:54 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | lol | 12:54 |
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| LinuxJones | RUF, you joined jsut to say that :) | 12:54 |
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| RUF | YEAH, lol | 12:54 |
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| LinuxJones | RUF, thanks !! | 12:55 |
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| eurojovi | Ubuntu 5.04...got xine & codecs using ubuntuguide.org. Xine plays most files....but some ASF/WMV files' audio is messed up. Anyone have any ideas? | 12:55 |
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| tsaphah | LinuxJones: Well, bandwidth is cheap. I'll give it a try. I've been wanting something that is clean, fast, "just works", etc. You know that "perfect" system that doesn't exist ;) | 12:55 |
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| Ephemeral | btw General observation, everytime i upgrade my Ubuntu.. it annihilates my Grub Menu.lst... anyway of stopping this? | 12:55 |
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| LinuxJones | tsaphah, what are you running now ? | 12:56 |
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| memcmeme | hello | 12:56 |
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| RUF | I wanna know anybody | 12:56 |
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| treke | Ephemeral: You need to make your changes a bit differently | 12:57 |
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| Ephemeral | hmm? | 12:57 |
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| netmonk | hello! is there a program that could scale a number of images lets say from 48x48 to 24x24? | 12:57 |
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| tsaphah | Right now only XP. Last linux distro I had was Suse 9.2 Pro and before that FreeBSD. I liked FreeBSD the best, just was as intuitive as most linux distros | 12:57 |
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| treke | Ephemeral: the packages regenerate the menu.list files based on the template information commented out at the top of the file | 12:57 |
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| tsaphah | LinuxJones: I played wiht mandrake back in the early 9.x days. Redhat back at 6, Gentoo, Slackware, Debian. Made the rounds you could say. | 12:58 |
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| LinuxJones | netmonk, you can do it form the command line I know but as for gui I am not sure. I am sure that functionality is available in some app. | 12:58 |
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| netmonk | linuxboy, where can I check for this command. forget the gui ;) | 12:59 |
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| treke | Ephemeral: so any changes you make need to be outside the ### BEGIN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST and ### END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST block | 12:59 |
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| eurojovi | Ubuntu 5.04...got xine & codecs using ubuntuguide.org. Xine plays most files....but some ASF/WMV files' audio is messed up. Anyone have any ideas? | 12:59 |
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| netmonk | LinuxJones, where can I check for this command. forget the gui ;) | 12:59 |
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| LinuxJones | tsaphah, well as for rpm based distros like Mandrake/Redhat/SuSe Ubuntu is far snappier. Gentoo and Slack are about on par ofr usability. It doesn't come with all of the Graphical Configuratuion stuff that mdk/rh or suse have. | 01:00 |
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| LinuxJones | netmonk, you would have to search google it was like 3 years ago I needed to do it and can't remember :( | 01:00 |
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| Ephemeral | treke: ? | 01:00 |
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| Ephemeral | treke: my normal entries start after ## End Default Options ## | 01:01 |
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| tsaphah | LinuxJones: That's alright. As long as there are decent docs' like with Freebsd. I'm not scared of the terminal. | 01:01 |
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| treke | Ephemeral: regarding menu.lst regnerating | 01:01 |
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| Ephemeral | treke: thats the bit i'll lose | 01:01 |
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| declan_ | Eurojovi reminded me: depending on whether I use Totem, or Mplayer, or Kaffeine, I get different results. None are completely satisfactory. Is the fact that I'm getting a halting playback on DVDs fixable? It seems as though I was getting the clearest picture with mplayer, is that possible? | 01:01 |
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| treke | Ephemeral: right, that block gets rewritten every time | 01:02 |
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| HrdwrBoB | declan_: there is also totem-xine and totem-gstreamer | 01:02 |
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| treke | Ephemeral: if you look farther up and farther down there are other block markers | 01:02 |
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| LinuxJones | tsaphah, you will have no problems at all with Ubuntu, it does have it's own way of doing certain things. www.ubuntuguide.org is a great resource for common things :) | 01:02 |
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| Ephemeral | treke: theres nothing below that | 01:02 |
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| declan_ | HrdwrBob: will they offer better performance? | 01:02 |
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| Ephemeral | treke: some comments above | 01:02 |
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| treke | Ephemeral: search the file for "AUTOMAGIC" | 01:03 |
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| Quest-Master | eurojovi: Tried VLC? | 01:03 |
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| ells | LinuxJones, I download the hoary preview and did a dry run with it. It is gonna work on my desktop that has debian on it. I guess for whatever reason, warty did not work with my desktop | 01:03 |
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| eurojovi | ummm...guess not. What's VLC? | 01:03 |
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| ells | LinuxJones, I am gonna back my data up | 01:03 |
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| Quest-Master | eurojovi: apt-cache for it and then install. :D | 01:03 |
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| odie5533 | www.videolan.org | 01:04 |
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| LinuxJones | ells, great, I guess the devs are working their butts off :) | 01:04 |
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| geneo93 | i see fontcofig was fixed intodays updates | 01:04 |
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| sirukin | hmm | 01:04 |
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| tsaphah | LinuxJones: K, I'll take a look there. Thanks | 01:04 |
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| gfxstyler | MUAHAHAHAHAHAA | 01:04 |
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| Ephemeral | trek: ok, i see the first use of that word | 01:04 |
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| LinuxJones | tsaphah, have fun :) | 01:04 |
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| eurojovi | mk | 01:04 |
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| Ephemeral | trek: # Put static boot stanzas before and/or after AUTOMAGIC KERNEL LIST | 01:04 |
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| gfxstyler | WTF :D | 01:04 |
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| gfxstyler | i love u guys | 01:04 |
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| gfxstyler | i love u all :D | 01:04 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | lol | 01:04 |
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| treke | Ephemeral: do you see the commented line that says ### BEGIN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST ? | 01:04 |
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| LinuxJones | gfxstyler, lol | 01:04 |
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| gfxstyler | 3d acceleration is finally working | 01:04 |
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| tsaphah | I will. Oh, can you point me to a resource that talks about the diff's between Ubuntu and other deb based distro's? | 01:04 |
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| HrdwrBoB | declan_: totem-xine generally works best currently, afaik | 01:04 |
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| ells | LInuxJones, I like ubuntu way better than debian | 01:05 |
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| Ephemeral | Yes | 01:05 |
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| odie5533 | Who maintains the packages in the universe and multiverse? | 01:05 |
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| declan_ | I'll try it then. Thanks. | 01:05 |
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| HrdwrBoB | odie5533: masters of the universe | 01:05 |
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| gfxstyler | omg i cannot believe it the 3d really works o_O | 01:05 |
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| treke | Ephemeral: above that line you should be able to make changes and they wont be overwritten | 01:05 |
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| HrdwrBoB | ubuntulinux.org/wiki/MOTU | 01:05 |
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| treke | Ephemeral: then the last line in the file should say ### END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST. You can write to the file after that line | 01:06 |
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| Ephemeral | treke: ok currently that space is blank | 01:06 |
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| memcmeme | Why Doesn't windows allow you to use the KDE desktop | 01:06 |
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| memcmeme | ? | 01:06 |
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| Ephemeral | treke: yes thats right | 01:06 |
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| icebalm | memcmeme: you're joking right? | 01:06 |
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| memcmeme | This is about six billion times more efficient than XP's or even Aqua | 01:06 |
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| memcmeme | I am new to Ubuntu | 01:06 |
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| Quest-Master | memcmeme: Windows isn't open source. :P | 01:06 |
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| memcmeme | and I am amazed at this dektop | 01:06 |
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| mitch__ | memcmeme: actually, this is possible | 01:06 |
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| LinuxJones | tsaphah, well the ubuntulinux.org has some stuff. Basically Ubuntu has regular release cycles (6 months), 18 month support per release, next-day release of Gnome/KDE and great irc channel :D | 01:06 |
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| treke | Ephemeral: Is that last line missing? Or is writing to the file outside of it still being overwritten? | 01:06 |
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| icebalm | memcmeme: hrmm, default ubuntu is gnome | 01:06 |
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| Quest-Master | Yeag | 01:06 |
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| Quest-Master | *Yeah | 01:07 |
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| memcmeme | I am using kubuntu desktop | 01:07 |
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| memcmeme | I like it better | 01:07 |
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| Quest-Master | They have KDE built with Cygwin for Windows | 01:07 |
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| Quest-Master | It's very buggy though | 01:07 |
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| icebalm | memcmeme: ahh I see | 01:07 |
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| Quest-Master | Slow as well | 01:07 |
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| memcmeme | its great | 01:07 |
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| Pawnomatic | Does anyone know why i would get two errors after Gnome starts....? One that is untitled saying "You must be the superuser (root) to configure GDM." (ok)......... and the other titled "Error" saying "Missing command to run." (close)....any help would be great because i am fairly new at this | 01:07 |
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| Ephemeral | treke: i wont know 'til the upgrade to Hoary tries to overwrite the file | 01:07 |
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| HrdwrBoB | and entirely pointless | 01:07 |
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| Ephemeral | treke: still downloading updates | 01:07 |
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| memcmeme | I can't get over how many packages there are for Linux | 01:07 |
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| tsaphah | LinuxJones: *smiles* alright. thanks again for your time. | 01:07 |
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| treke | Ephemeral: you can simulate it by running /sbin/update-grub | 01:07 |
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| lunitik | Quest-Master: with Qt/win32 being GPL now... its just not smart to use Cygwin for KDE apps on Windows any more imo | 01:07 |
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| BigIslandVegan | Any bluetooth specialists? | 01:08 |
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| Quest-Master | Qt for Win32 is GPL now? | 01:08 |
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| HillTop | memcmeme: There is talk of porting KDE to Windows, as an appliication I suppose. | 01:08 |
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| Ephemeral | treke: its just 4 lines i need to add or so | 01:08 |
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| Quest-Master | When'd that happen? | 01:08 |
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| lunitik | Quest-Master: yes... like a month ago | 01:08 |
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| Quest-Master | I'm behind. | 01:08 |
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| Quest-Master | :P | 01:08 |
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| HrdwrBoB | if you want to run KDE... why not just run linux | 01:08 |
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| memcmeme | I think you ought to be able to totally replace the windows XP WM with KDE | 01:08 |
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| Ephemeral | treke: so i might leave it, and edit it manualy after upgrade | 01:08 |
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| memcmeme | that would be better | 01:08 |
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| treke | did they ever release QT3? | 01:08 |
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| Ephemeral | treke: as usual... | 01:08 |
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| memcmeme | but I don't think it will effect me | 01:08 |
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| treke | I thought it was just qt4 that would be gpl on windows | 01:08 |
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| lunitik | treke: umm... yes | 01:08 |
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| memcmeme | I don't forsee using Windows again on my home desktop | 01:09 |
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| rvalles | hi | 01:09 |
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| memcmeme | this is just so much more efficient | 01:09 |
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| rvalles | let's suppose I have gcc 3.3.x and gcc 3.4.x installed | 01:09 |
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| rvalles | how do I switch between them, on ubuntu? | 01:09 |
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| eurojovi | Quest-Master: VLC worked! Thanks! | 01:09 |
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| LinuxJones | rvalles, CC=gcc3.x I think | 01:09 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | when you compile, you can specify | 01:09 |
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| lunitik | HrdwrBoB: There is rumors they are gonna port entire KDE to Windows so you can use it instead of explorer.exe ... would allow those that use Windows for games to use KDE and not reboot... | 01:10 |
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| icebalm | rvalles: the higher version one will probably be gcc, the other probably gcc33 | 01:10 |
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| mitch__ | memcmeme: you should try litestep for windows. :) | 01:10 |
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| Quest-Master | eurojovi: No problem. :) | 01:10 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | heh litestep's alright | 01:10 |
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| rvalles | icebalm: problem is that it isn't :O | 01:10 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | nothings like fluxbox or the like | 01:10 |
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| mitch__ | :) | 01:10 |
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| icebalm | rvalles: ok so what does gcc -v say? | 01:10 |
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| geneo93 | rvalles: remove the older one then | 01:10 |
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| rvalles | icebalm: in gentoo, there's a gcc-config thing which can be used to repoint all gcc commands to the prefered version, of those installed... | 01:10 |
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| rvalles | geneo93: Ok, I can do that, but I thought it would be nice to keep both | 01:11 |
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| icebalm | rvalles: yeah well ubuntu is a binary distrib, install packages | 01:11 |
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| rvalles | geneo93: 3.3.x builds far more stuff than 3.4... | 01:11 |
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| geneo93 | true | 01:11 |
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| MeHere | guys* | 01:18 |
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| LinuxJones | MeHere, hi | 01:18 |
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| MeHere | umm I'm a bit new to linux | 01:18 |
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| geneo93 | Starting Azureus... | 01:18 |
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| MeHere | i installed both gnome and kde | 01:18 |
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| geneo93 | OOPS, you don't seem to have a valid JRE [java = gij] | 01:18 |
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| geneo93 | You need to upgrade to JRE 1.4.x or newer from http://java.sun.com | 01:18 |
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| geneo93 | Java exec found in /usr/java/jre1.5.0_01/bin/ | 01:18 |
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| geneo93 | OOPS, you don't seem to have a valid JRE [/usr/java/jre1.5.0_01/bin/java =Error] | 01:18 |
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| geneo93 | You need to upgrade to JRE 1.4.x or newer from http://java.sun.com | 01:18 |
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| MeHere | but can't bring kde up | 01:18 |
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| MeHere | what should i do | 01:18 |
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| geneo93 | any ideas | 01:18 |
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| LinuxJones | MeHere, it installed ok ? | 01:19 |
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| MeHere | yeah | 01:19 |
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| MeHere | everything installed | 01:19 |
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| tyler | Hola peeps. ANyone on Hoary? | 01:19 |
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| MeHere | i think i have to bring it up at first before coming into gnome right | 01:19 |
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| geneo93 | me is | 01:19 |
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| shmoolik | yeah | 01:19 |
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| LinuxJones | MeHere, iok in the gdm login screen (where you type you username/password0 under session select kde | 01:19 |
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| tyler | gene, anyprops with mp3 playback and the mozilla mplayer pug in | 01:20 |
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| MeHere | it doesn't show any session | 01:20 |
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| rvalles | well | 01:20 |
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| rvalles | after removing gcc | 01:20 |
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| rvalles | (while keeping gcc-3.4) | 01:20 |
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| geneo93 | no | 01:20 |
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| MeHere | it only user name and then password | 01:20 |
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| MeHere | no session comes up | 01:20 |
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| rvalles | gcc --versions now throws a nice-nice "command not found" | 01:20 |
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| MeHere | i had suse linux before | 01:20 |
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| LinuxJones | MeHere, sudo apt-get update && apt-get install ubuntu-desktop | 01:20 |
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| MeHere | that had it | 01:20 |
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| rvalles | horror! | 01:20 |
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| IRCFrEAK | ... | 01:20 |
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| IRCFrEAK | im an ircfreak it seems | 01:21 |
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| LinuxJones | MeHere, sorry kubuntu-desktop | 01:21 |
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| IRCFrEAK | interesting | 01:21 |
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| rvalles | I want my gcc --version to work and return "3.4.3", the version I want to use | 01:21 |
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| rvalles | is that even possible? :( | 01:21 |
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| geneo93 | rvalles: did you specify | 01:21 |
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| LinuxJones | rvalles, yeah gimme a sec | 01:21 |
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| MeHere | ok it's says this | 01:22 |
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| MeHere | Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com warty/main Packages | 01:22 |
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| MeHere | Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com warty/main Release | 01:22 |
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| MeHere | Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com warty/restricted Packages | 01:22 |
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| MeHere | Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com warty/restricted Release | 01:22 |
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| MeHere | Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com warty/main Sources | 01:22 |
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| MeHere | Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com warty/main Release | 01:22 |
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| MeHere | Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com warty/restricted Sources | 01:23 |
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| MeHere | Hit http://security.ubuntu.com warty-security/main Packages | 01:23 |
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| MeHere | Get:1 http://security.ubuntu.com warty-security/main Release [102B] | 01:23 |
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| MeHere | Hit http://security.ubuntu.com warty-security/restricted Packages | 01:23 |
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| MeHere | Get:2 http://security.ubuntu.com warty-security/restricted Release [108B] | 01:23 |
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| MeHere | Hit http://security.ubuntu.com warty-security/main Sources | 01:23 |
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| MeHere | Get:3 http://security.ubuntu.com warty-security/main Release [104B] | 01:23 |
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| MeHere | Hit http://security.ubuntu.com warty-security/restricted Sources | 01:23 |
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| MeHere | Get:4 http://security.ubuntu.com warty-security/restricted Release [110B] | 01:23 |
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| shmoolik | ? | 01:23 |
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| MeHere | Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com warty/restricted Release | 01:23 |
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| MeHere | Fetched 424B in 3s (126B/s) | 01:23 |
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| MeHere | E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied) | 01:23 |
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| MeHere | E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root? | 01:23 |
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| MeHere | why does it say so? | 01:23 |
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| MeHere | Jones? | 01:23 |
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| geneo93 | MeHere did you use sudo | 01:24 |
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| shmoolik | dude y have y flooded? | 01:24 |
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| MeHere | yes | 01:24 |
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| MeHere | i even entered my password | 01:24 |
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| geneo93 | MeHere: are you trying to update | 01:25 |
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| MeHere | yeah | 01:25 |
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| LinuxJones | rvalles, export CC=gcc32 as an example | 01:25 |
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| MeHere | i'm trying to get kde to work | 01:26 |
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| tyler | Mm. I should reinstall the codecs or something' | 01:26 |
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| geneo93 | ok do this first sudo apt-get -f install | 01:26 |
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| MeHere | i don't get any sessions at the login time | 01:26 |
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| e-motion | does anyone have an idea, when an install hangs at the beginning. acpi=off helps a bit , but still hangs after a while | 01:26 |
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| helio1 | Does anyone currently have their Ubuntu system set up to print via a Windows machine? I'm trying to get this classroom computer printing to a Windows Networked printer and can't get the settings right, nor can I find them via google... | 01:26 |
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| LinuxJones | MeHere, it should add it for you | 01:27 |
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| geneo93 | MeHere: then you didn't get kubuntu-desk | 01:27 |
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| MeHere | umm i did this sudo apt-get -f install | 01:28 |
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| geneo93 | or kdm | 01:28 |
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| MeHere | it didn't update anything | 01:28 |
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| geneo93 | what did it say | 01:28 |
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| MeHere | i just installed ubuntu | 01:28 |
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| LinuxJones | MeHere, try geneo93 's syggestion of installing kdm | 01:28 |
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| dabi | cant install finnish language to ubuntu :S i have the packages installed but when i select finnish in gdm it says fi_FI utf 8 not found | 01:28 |
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| MeHere | it updated everything while installing i think | 01:29 |
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| MeHere | what was that packages name again | 01:29 |
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| LinuxJones | MeHere, apt-get install kdm | 01:29 |
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| MeHere | kubuntu-desktop? | 01:29 |
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| geneo93 | MeHere: that would up date all things | 01:29 |
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| LinuxJones | MeHere, sorry yeah | 01:29 |
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| dabi | ... | 01:30 |
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| ani | hey | 01:30 |
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| ani | does anyone know how i might be able to get sound working? | 01:30 |
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| geneo93 | crimsun: can prolly help u best | 01:31 |
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| MeHere | E: Couldn't find package kdm | 01:31 |
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| rvalles | LinuxJones: no, | 01:32 |
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| geneo93 | ok try kubuntu-desktop | 01:32 |
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| rvalles | LinuxJones: there isn't a gcc :( | 01:32 |
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| rvalles | LinuxJones: command not found no matter the CC, so I guess there isn't a wrapper, there isn't anything at all | 01:32 |
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| LinuxJones | rvalles, you installed build-essential ? | 01:32 |
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| MeHere | it can't open | 01:32 |
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| MeHere | hold on brb | 01:32 |
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| MeHere | gonna restart | 01:32 |
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| farruinn | dabi: what packages have you installed already | 01:33 |
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| girls | ghi | 01:33 |
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| dabi | huuuh.. many... | 01:33 |
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| girls | hi | 01:33 |
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| icebalm | y0 | 01:33 |
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| farruinn | dabi: try installing language-support-fi to be sure | 01:34 |
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| dabi | farruinn: i have.. | 01:34 |
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| girls | hi | 01:34 |
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| girls | hi | 01:34 |
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| girls | hi | 01:34 |
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| girls | hi | 01:34 |
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| girls | hi | 01:34 |
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| girls | hi | 01:34 |
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| girls | hi | 01:34 |
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| girls | hi | 01:34 |
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| icebalm | girls: shut the fuck up | 01:34 |
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| farruinn | hello, we see you | 01:34 |
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| girls | hi | 01:34 |
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| girls | fuck you | 01:34 |
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| e-motion | is there a posibility to install ubuntu from the LIVE CD ? | 01:34 |
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| rvalles | LinuxJones: ic. | 01:34 |
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| gratuit | has anyone here tried out usplash? I'm having trouble finding one of it's dependancies to build it, specifically lib++dfb I think | 01:34 |
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| LinuxJones | girls, please leave !! | 01:34 |
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| suifur | girls: once is enough ya fucktard | 01:34 |
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| dabi | farruinn: i have language-pack-fi, language-pack-fi-base, language-support-fi | 01:34 |
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| MeHere | ok still doesn't give me any sessions | 01:35 |
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| girls | hi | 01:35 |
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| girls | ihih | 01:35 |
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| girls | hi | 01:35 |
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| girls | hih | 01:35 |
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| girls | hi | 01:35 |
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| girls | hi | 01:35 |
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| girls | hi | 01:35 |
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| girls | hi | 01:35 |
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| girls | hi | 01:35 |
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| girls | hi | 01:35 |
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| LinuxJones | MeHere, I would join #kubuntu and ask if others have the same problem | 01:35 |
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| girls | hi | 01:35 |
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| icebalm | girls: what the hell is your problem? | 01:35 |
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| girls | hi | 01:35 |
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| MeHere | girls: please stop saying hi | 01:35 |
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| girls | hi | 01:35 |
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| Dakko | No kidding | 01:35 |
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| girls | hi | 01:35 |
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| dabi | farruinn: i installed ubuntu (hoary) in finnish and worked.. but now after updating it changed back to english | 01:35 |
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| LinuxJones | troll | 01:35 |
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| girls | hi | 01:35 |
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| suifur | girls: shut the fuckin hell up and go the fuck away | 01:35 |
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| helio1 | moderators can ban people; please keep the tone polite | 01:35 |
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| girls | hi | 01:35 |
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| MeHere | ok | 01:36 |
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| girls | hi | 01:36 |
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| MeHere | thanks | 01:36 |
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| girls | hih | 01:36 |
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| gratuit | ah, the simple joy of /ignore | 01:36 |
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| Dakko | Who can ban her? lol | 01:36 |
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| girls | ih | 01:36 |
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| girls | bye | 01:36 |
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| rvalles | LinuxJones: ok | 01:36 |
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| suifur | gah fine | 01:36 |
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| Dakko | That was odd. | 01:36 |
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| farruinn | dabi: what about language-pack-fi | 01:36 |
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| rvalles | LinuxJones: so the idea is that gcc-3.3 and gcc-3.4 are the gccs I have installed | 01:36 |
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| dabi | farruinn: installed | 01:36 |
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| rvalles | LinuxJones: and the "gcc" package itself is a "wrapper" or something | 01:36 |
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| medwards_ | Is there a boot parameter I can use to modprobe ext3 before casper runs? | 01:36 |
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| dabi | farruinn: i also tried reinstalling these.. | 01:37 |
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| rvalles | LinuxJones: but... how do I use the wrapper? | 01:37 |
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| rvalles | LinuxJones: I guess it honors "CC" | 01:37 |
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| ephemeral | woah, i just smoked my Warty, trying to get to Hoary | 01:37 |
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| rvalles | LinuxJones: but isn't there a command or something to handle all that? | 01:37 |
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| LinuxJones | mdz, jdub, you guys around ?? | 01:37 |
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| mdz | LinuxJones: ? | 01:38 |
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| LinuxJones | rvalles, yeah CC is the variable that calls the correct gcc version | 01:38 |
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| MeHere | i couldn't find a channel named #kubuntu | 01:38 |
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| MeHere | where is it | 01:38 |
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| mdz | MeHere: it's there, /join #kubuntu | 01:38 |
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| geneo93 | ephemeral: can you finish update from terminal | 01:38 |
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| LinuxJones | mdz, sorry there was a spamming troll here a minute ago I was hoping you would kick :( | 01:38 |
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| MeHere | it's empty | 01:39 |
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| ephemeral | what? | 01:39 |
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| mdz | MeHere: there are 42 people there including me | 01:39 |
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| geneo93 | MeHere: /joinkubuntu | 01:39 |
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| ephemeral | geneo, i logged in and and everything was blank, except there was a terminal in the top left | 01:39 |
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| geneo93 | space in there | 01:39 |
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| rvalles | LinuxJones: ok, how do I set it system-wide so that it resist boots and all | 01:39 |
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| rvalles | LinuxJones: or, in other words, how do I do it the ubuntu way? | 01:39 |
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| rvalles | LinuxJones: since I can do it the ugly way without much help | 01:40 |
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| geneo93 | ephemeral: thats good do a sudo apt-get dist update | 01:40 |
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| LinuxJones | rvalles, you should be able to set it in your users .bashrc file | 01:40 |
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| rvalles | LinuxJones: yeah, that would be an option | 01:40 |
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| ephemeral | oh? that was supposed to happen? | 01:40 |
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| e-motion | does anyone know possible ways to insdtall ubuntu from the Live CD | 01:40 |
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| geneo93 | upgrade i mean | 01:40 |
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| shmoolik | can i make a sourt cut to a folder on my DeskTop? | 01:40 |
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| LinuxJones | e-motion, not that I know of :( | 01:41 |
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| Fackamato | How do I change the language in gnome? | 01:41 |
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| dabi | hmm any ideas how can i change my ubuntu language back to finnish? i downloaded the packages but when trying to change it from gdm it says fi_FI utf-8 not found and changes it to english | 01:41 |
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| P229 | in array 7, changing the them while Synaptic is downloading updates causes Synaptic to exit/crash | 01:41 |
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| P229 | the theme* | 01:41 |
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| LinuxJones | shmoolik, sure right click "create launcher" under type select directory | 01:41 |
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| dabi | hmm mayby ill go to forums | 01:41 |
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| e-motion | linuxJones: hmmm why does the Live CD Load perfectly then, and The install CD fails ... hmppf | 01:41 |
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| MeHere | shmoolik: you can make a launcher to browse that folder i think | 01:41 |
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| farruinn | dabi: I'm not sure I fully understand the new language pack system, but have you tried 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales'? | 01:42 |
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| LinuxJones | e-motion, you have the same version for both ? | 01:42 |
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| tsaphah | Does the warty install detect that I have windows installed and provide an option to dual boot automatically or will I be needing to edit grub/lilo myself? | 01:42 |
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| LinuxJones | e-motion, you might have a warty install disk and Hoary live CD ? | 01:42 |
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| e-motion | LinuxJones: yes part of the install pack 4.10 | 01:43 |
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| jharrison | are there any bugs in terms of font packages? | 01:43 |
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| farruinn | tsaphah: afaik you have to modify the grup config | 01:43 |
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| MeHere | LinuxJones | 01:43 |
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| rvalles | LinuxJones: CC=gcc34 gcc --version | 01:43 |
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| e-motion | LinuxJones: I installed the System from the Same disk on an other Hardware perfectly | 01:43 |
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| LinuxJones | tsaphah, it should find it but I would install the latest hoary version. It is going to be the stable version in 2 weeks | 01:43 |
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| MeHere | can we chat? | 01:43 |
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| rvalles | LinuxJones: still throws 3.3.4 :O | 01:43 |
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| rvalles | LinuxJones: what's the problem with "gcc"? (!) | 01:44 |
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| tsaphah | LinuxJones: *chuckles* k | 01:44 |
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| LinuxJones | rvalles, if you search google you will find the answer I am getting loaded atm and am going to be useless in about 1/2 hour :) | 01:44 |
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| rvalles | LinuxJones: I guess gcc doesn't honor CC at all | 01:44 |
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| shmoolik | LinuxJones, MeHere hum .... for some resone when i put the path on the crate luncher box and then i m trying to run the luncher i get a message that the command can't b run | 01:44 |
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| rvalles | LinuxJones: after all... | 01:44 |
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| LinuxJones | e-motion, this system is newer ? | 01:45 |
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| P229 | I wish distros would start rolling pktcdvd and udftools | 01:45 |
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| LinuxJones | shmoolik, what command ? | 01:45 |
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| shmoolik | "/media/phiczia/My Documents" fot e..g | 01:46 |
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| e-motion | LinuxJones: yes THIS system with the problem is a Dell Latitude 800 Notebook, the system where It worked as a test was a P3 500MHZ IBM | 01:46 |
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| shmoolik | "media/phiczia/My Documents" fot e..g | 01:46 |
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| nekrataal | hello | 01:46 |
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| regeya | alrright I give up...when I moved on to hoary, the trick I used to get my audio<->video sync working on mpeg2 output no longer works. I GIVE UP. it should not require research and a somewhat-good knowledge of how such video works to burn home movies to dvd. :-P | 01:46 |
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| P229 | nekrataal, hi | 01:46 |
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| nekrataal | a little question...how can i add some launcher to the gnome menu on ubuntu hoary? | 01:46 |
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| farruinn | nekrataal: there is no built in way to do it yet | 01:47 |
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| LinuxJones | e-motion, the Hoary install cd has lots of bug fixes ans is much nicer compared to the Warty install cd. Are you able to download the latest Hoary install cd ? | 01:47 |
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| e-motion | LinuxJones: maybe its the Grub Loader which fails .. hm | 01:47 |
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| nekrataal | so i cant? | 01:47 |
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| e-motion | LinuxJones: yes .. no prob | 01:47 |
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| LinuxJones | shmoolik, to a directory ? | 01:47 |
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| farruinn | nekrataal: have have been a few people who have put together some tools to do it, one sec... | 01:48 |
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| e-motion | LinuxJones: is it Different to the 4.10 | 01:48 |
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| dabi | oh kwl back in finnish ;) | 01:48 |
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| LinuxJones | e-motion, try that dude you might be ok but laptops can sometimes be problamatic | 01:48 |
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| shmoolik | LinuxJones, yeah | 01:48 |
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| jharrison | when typing in passwords and such usually there are black circles in the password field as you type in the password but now there are squares with weird codes in them. | 01:48 |
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| jharrison | anyone know what the deal is with that? | 01:48 |
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| farruinn | nekrataal: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19673 is one, I've added a couple of items to my menus, it seems to work | 01:49 |
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| shmoolik | nekrataal, just "nautilus <section on menu>:///" and then create a luncher | 01:49 |
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| MeHere | guys how do i make my current user superuser? | 01:49 |
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| shmoolik | nekrataal, don't for get to restart gnome | 01:49 |
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| [FiDO] | can anyone help me wih configuring lirc to work with my tv card | 01:49 |
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| e-motion | LinuxJones: ok Downlading wartyWardog and try .. thanks | 01:49 |
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| Blissex | MeHere: 'man su' or 'man sudo' | 01:49 |
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| LinuxJones | shmoolik, ok in the window give it a name, under Type select Directory from the dropdown list, click browse and locate the directy then click ok. | 01:49 |
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| farruinn | jharrison: that's completely normal for linux shell logins =) | 01:49 |
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| farruinn | shmoolik: hoary | 01:50 |
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| jharrison | farruinn: but this is system wide | 01:50 |
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| farruinn | jharrison: in gdm as well? | 01:50 |
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| Blissex | MeHere: those are the correct approaches. | 01:50 |
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| jharrison | farruinn: for example logging into gaim etc... | 01:50 |
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| geneo93 | MeHere: you dont want too | 01:50 |
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| DrunkenBug | can anyone help me with why it isnt configuring my network at install? | 01:50 |
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| LinuxJones | e-motion, you should download the Hoary installer :) | 01:50 |
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| LinuxJones | cd | 01:50 |
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| nekrataal | ok, thanks guys, ill check that out.. | 01:50 |
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| farruinn | jharrison: do you have a non-standard font set as default? | 01:50 |
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| Zenum | hey, im having a problem with my wireless card, where as soon as I enable the restricted key with iwconfig my computer just slows down heaps, and the events/0 process uses 95% of my processor... | 01:50 |
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| ells | LinuxJones, I am talking to you via my hoary desktop, it worked | 01:50 |
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| shmoolik | LinuxJones, that what i have done =\ | 01:50 |
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| Zenum | has anyone had this problem before? | 01:51 |
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| LinuxJones | ells, sweet :) | 01:51 |
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| P229 | does the sound recorder work for anyone? | 01:51 |
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| e-motion | LinuxJones: ok @ Hoary | 01:51 |
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| LinuxJones | shmoolik, that's impossible :) | 01:51 |
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| ells | LinuxJones, just tweaking it now | 01:51 |
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| DrunkenBug | hey, can anyone help me with why it isnt configuring my network at install? | 01:51 |
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| LinuxJones | ells, good stuff | 01:51 |
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| jharrison | farruinn: maybe | 01:51 |
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| P229 | is it just me, or does the sound recorder not work at all? | 01:51 |
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| jharrison | farruinn: this is a friend of mine | 01:51 |
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| ells | LinuxJones, the hoary preview install seems very intuitive | 01:51 |
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| jharrison | farruinn: he does not speak that great of english | 01:51 |
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| ells | LinuxJones, as far as upgrades and such | 01:52 |
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| nictuku | is request-tracker3 dependencies broken in warty? | 01:52 |
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| LinuxJones | ells, it is very nice can't wait for the GUI installer mmmmm | 01:52 |
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| nictuku | *are | 01:52 |
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| tsume | hmm | 01:52 |
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| jharrison | farruinn: I will upload some screenshots to my website so you can see what we mean | 01:52 |
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| DrunkenBug | hey, can anyone help me with why it isnt configuring my network at install? | 01:52 |
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| ells | LinuxJoes, easier than warty in my opinion | 01:52 |
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| tsume | who updates the debs for hoary? | 01:52 |
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| farruinn | jharrison: ok | 01:52 |
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| shmoolik | LinuxJones, i can show ya ... when i press browse i can't select a foder so i type it on the command section | 01:52 |
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| ells | LinuxJones, so far....time will tell ya know | 01:52 |
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| Zenum | has anyone had problems where wireless network slows down your computer when you put on encryption? | 01:52 |
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| farruinn | tsume: erm, the developers =) | 01:53 |
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| rvalles | hey | 01:53 |
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| tsume | and why is the OLD nvidia driver in the dev? | 01:53 |
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| rvalles | I have | 01:53 |
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| rvalles | - gcc | 01:53 |
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| rvalles | - gcc-3.4 | 01:53 |
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| LinuxJones | shmoolik, why can't you browse to the folder ? | 01:53 |
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| ells | Zenum: not really, i run it on my laptop | 01:53 |
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| rvalles | I used to have, too | 01:53 |
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| rvalles | - gcc-3.3 | 01:53 |
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| memcmeme | how d I make ubuntu let me log into a session as root? | 01:53 |
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| rvalles | removed gcc-3.3 | 01:53 |
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| memcmeme | it wont let me | 01:53 |
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| farruinn | memcmeme: sudo -s | 01:53 |
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| rvalles | and now "gcc" throws a command not found | 01:53 |
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| jharrison | farruinn: http://linuxbs.org/public/screenshot1.png | 01:53 |
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| memcmeme | where? | 01:53 |
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| farruinn | memcmeme: oh, don't log into a graphical session as root, that's a bad idea | 01:53 |
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| shmoolik | LinuxJones, cuse when i do i must select a file to aprove the "ok" butten | 01:54 |
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| farruinn | memcmeme: it can really screw your system. If you need to use nautilus as root I thin kthere's an option in the menu | 01:54 |
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| memcmeme | I need to use Konqeror as root | 01:54 |
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| geneo93 | farruinn: you have any idea on that java problem i have | 01:54 |
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| shmoolik | LinuxJones, the "open" butten | 01:54 |
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| LinuxJones | shmoolik, you have to select "directory" from the Type dropdown list | 01:54 |
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| DrunkenBug | hey, can anyone help me with why it isnt configuring my network at install? | 01:54 |
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| shmoolik | LinuxJones, thats the 1st thing i have done | 01:54 |
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| jharrison | farruinn: my friend uses the portuguese fonts and language | 01:55 |
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| farruinn | geneo93: sorry I don't remember what the problem was | 01:55 |
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| LinuxJones | shmoolik, you on warty ? | 01:55 |
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| farruinn | jharrison: checking it out... | 01:55 |
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| jharrison | farruinn: thanks | 01:55 |
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| shmoolik | LinuxJones, no i m hoary | 01:55 |
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| dabi | how can i run a command before gdm starts or at same time? | 01:55 |
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| memcmeme | does anyone know how to use konqueror as root? | 01:55 |
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| geneo93 | farruinn: i'll paste to you | 01:55 |
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| e-motion | LinuxJones: is it that one you mean ? hoary-preview-install-amd64.iso | 01:55 |
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| rvalles | I'm tired :( | 01:55 |
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| LinuxJones | shmoolik, something is messed up dude I can do it fine ?|?| | 01:55 |
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| rvalles | LinuxJones: I guess Ubuntu doesn't make sense after all | 01:56 |
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| LinuxJones | e-motion, yeah | 01:56 |
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| rvalles | I'm happy that I'm not the one using ubuntu, tho | 01:56 |
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| rvalles | (I run gentoo) | 01:56 |
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| e-motion | LinuxJones: ok thanks | 01:56 |
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| xigle1 | a few days ago, I installed hoary preview. I added the right repositories and was able to install gstreamer, xmms, mplayer, xine etc. But now I reinstalled ubuntu and am getting a lot of error message when I try to install theese programs. Talking about all kinds of packages that's "not installable" and "have unmet dependencies". Any ideas? | 01:56 |
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| rvalles | I'm trying to help a friend who doesn't speak english | 01:56 |
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| shmoolik | hum.... okey then i think that i will just wait for the upgrade then LinuxJones | 01:56 |
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| rvalles | poor guy | 01:56 |
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| LinuxJones | e-motion, :) | 01:56 |
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| ells | rvalles, ubuntu works great for most | 01:56 |
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| DrunkenBug | hello,anyone know why it isnt configuring my network at install? | 01:56 |
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| LinuxJones | shmoolik, that's wierd it should work just fine | 01:56 |
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| farruinn | jharrison: if you're using sudo it won't show up. I don't see in that screenshot where you're entering a password | 01:57 |
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| jharrison | farruinn: well it doesnt seem to be the password fields | 01:57 |
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| shmoolik | LinuxJones, donno .... i m not such a newbe though i m a biggner and a very bad English specker =\ | 01:57 |
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| jharrison | farruinn: it does I mean but the screenshots he sent is of other things | 01:58 |
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| rvalles | ells: I used to think so | 01:58 |
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| jharrison | farruinn: for example the buddy list on gaim | 01:58 |
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| farruinn | jharrison: hehe, I see :) | 01:58 |
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| rvalles | ells: but... if the "gcc" package is a wrapper | 01:58 |
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| ells | rvalles, i use it my desktop and laptop. works great with wireless | 01:58 |
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| jharrison | farruinn: http://linuxbs.org/public/screenshot2.png | 01:58 |
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| jharrison | farruinn: there is another one | 01:58 |
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| rvalles | ells: where is its documentation? | 01:58 |
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| xigle1 | if no one have any ideas I guess I'll go to bed ... nite | 01:58 |
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| LinuxJones | shmoolik, so your right clicking on the desktop and selecting "Create Launcher" ? | 01:58 |
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| ells | rvalles, can tell a lie, not sure | 01:58 |
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| jharrison | farruinn: bear with me as I am trying to figure out from him what the problem exactly is | 01:58 |
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| helio1 | using the gnome-printer interface I'm using (smb://guest:@Langston_6/epson) to try and send jobs to a windows connected printer...error says it can't connect to samba host! help? | 01:58 |
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| rvalles | ells: how am I supposed to know how it does work, without documentation? | 01:58 |
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| jharrison | farruinn: I dont speak portuguese :) | 01:58 |
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| shmoolik | LinuxJones, yeah :) | 01:59 |
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| farruinn | jharrison: heheh, neither do I so good luck =) | 01:59 |
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| rvalles | ells: not even in the website, gives me the creeps. | 01:59 |
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| ells | rvalles, which part are you asking about | 01:59 |
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| jharrison | farruinn: I might have found a translator | 01:59 |
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| LinuxJones | shmoolik, have you updated your system since installing ? | 01:59 |
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| rvalles | ells: "gcc" is a wrapper. I want to know how to set up this wrapper | 01:59 |
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| ells | rvalles, have you tried the unofficial site | 01:59 |
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| Blissex | rvalles: look for the 'spec' file for GCC. | 01:59 |
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| shmoolik | LinuxJones, yeah today | 01:59 |
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| radiodurans | what would you use ubuntu instead of debian? | 01:59 |
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| rvalles | ells: see, I have gcc-3.4 installed. I used to have gcc-3.3 too, I've just removed it. | 01:59 |
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| radiodurans | what = why | 01:59 |
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| rvalles | ells: but "gcc" gives me a /usr/bin/gcc: command not found | 02:00 |
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| DrunkenBug | hello, anyone know why it isnt configuring my network at install? | 02:00 |
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| shmoolik | LinuxJones it fixed lots of problems i had ... | 02:00 |
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| rfauth | good evening | 02:00 |
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| rvalles | ells: gcc-3.4 exists. | 02:00 |
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| medwards_ | xigle1: universe missing from your sources.list? | 02:00 |
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| LinuxJones | shmoolik, not quite enough :) | 02:00 |
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| ells | If the question cant be found in here, you can go to the unofficial ubuntu site. really awesome setup faq | 02:00 |
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| rvalles | ells: problem is... how do I make the ubuntu gcc wrapper see it? | 02:00 |
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| ells | rvalles, really not my strong point, sorry | 02:01 |
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| rvalles | it's simple stuff, I really don't get it | 02:01 |
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| rvalles | you people never use gcc at all? | 02:01 |
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| shmoolik | LinuxJones, yeah, it appers .... though i m quite happy with this disro | 02:01 |
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| ells | rvalles, you could send a report through ubuntu on your issue | 02:01 |
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| Rocha | Hello, for the developers here... | 02:01 |
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| medwards_ | Anyone run into hald timeouts when a USB stick was in during boot? | 02:01 |
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| Rocha | ...what graphical cvs tool do you recommend me? | 02:01 |
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| ells | rvalles, they are really responsive if it cannot be answered in here | 02:01 |
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| shmoolik | i didn't had any need to move back to windows and i don't think i will have a resone too LinuxJones | 02:01 |
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| treke | mdz: What is the update policy for the for the universe repository? The sources.list file says that there are no updates, but the package archive seems to have a section for them | 02:01 |
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| memcmeme | hello | 02:02 |
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| memcmeme | I am now in Gnome | 02:02 |
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| ells | Does anyone have answer that can help rvalles | 02:02 |
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| shmoolik | LinuxJones, though i do have problem with the sound on majesty =\ | 02:02 |
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| memcmeme | where is the option to use the windows browser as root | 02:02 |
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| dabi | what do i have to do so numlock activates with gdm? i installed numlockx with synaptic but dont know how to activate it.. | 02:02 |
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| inphlict | Hey how do I get avi files to play? | 02:02 |
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| memcmeme | I need to move some stuff around and the it keeps insisting I don't have permissions | 02:02 |
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| helio1 | What does "Unable to Connect to Samba host" mean in a printer error? I can browse the windows box fine via samba but NO printing no matter what I do.... | 02:02 |
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| shmoolik | and Quake is not running =\\\\\\\ | 02:02 |
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| rvalles | I also tried reinstalling "gcc-3.4" | 02:02 |
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| inphlict | Which codec do I need to install, someone help pls | 02:02 |
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| rvalles | but no luck | 02:02 |
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| ells | LinuxJones: can you help rvalles | 02:02 |
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| rvalles | it doesn't make "the wrapper" see it... | 02:02 |
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| ells | rvalles, we will get help | 02:03 |
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| mdz | treke: updates to universe, in the stable branch, are made on a volunteer/time-available basis | 02:03 |
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| treke | mdz: Ah thanks. That clears it up. | 02:03 |
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| inphlict | Does anyone know what i need to install to get avi files to work | 02:03 |
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| treke | Been trying to decide whether to go woody or ubuntu on a machine | 02:03 |
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| farruinn | rvalles: gcc is going to depend on gcc-3.3 thus it's going to symlink /usr/bin/gcc to /usr/bin/gcc-3.3... | 02:03 |
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| ells | all points bulletin, can anyone help with rvalles' issue | 02:03 |
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| jharrison | farruinn: ok | 02:04 |
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| inphlict | guys how the hell do I get avi files to work | 02:04 |
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| inphlict | pls | 02:04 |
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| memcmeme | this is drivin me nuts, I log out, it says i cannot login to Gnome as root, and but I want to move stuff around using the WM | 02:04 |
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| memcmeme | is there a way? | 02:04 |
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| ells | farruinn, thanks man | 02:04 |
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| shmoolik | okay ppl i m off to bad | 02:04 |
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| rvalles | farruinn: :) | 02:04 |
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| shmoolik | nighty night | 02:04 |
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| shmoolik | LinuxJones, thank man | 02:05 |
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| jharrison | farruinn: from what was translated it seems that when he enters text in a password field weird characters appear and also you can see these characters in the buddy list and the character map in the screenshots | 02:05 |
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| shmoolik | | 02:05 |
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| jharrison | farruinn: seems to be some kind of localization problem | 02:05 |
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| rvalles | farruinn: /usr/bin/gcc doesn't exist | 02:05 |
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| rvalles | farruinn: as a link or as anything else; it just doesn't exist. | 02:05 |
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| dabi | what do i have to do so numlock activates with gdm? i installed numlockx with synaptic but dont know how to activate it.. | 02:05 |
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| _mepis_lover | w32codecs | 02:05 |
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| _mepis_lover | apt-get install w32codecs | 02:05 |
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| LinuxJones | shmoolik, :) | 02:06 |
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| farruinn | jharrison: ooh, yes I see that | 02:06 |
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| tsume | so.. | 02:06 |
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| treke | I suppose the ubuntu updates situation won't be nearly as bad as trying to deal with backports for woody :) | 02:06 |
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| Fackamato | rvalles: apt-get install build-essential | 02:06 |
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| tsume | are any developers here? | 02:06 |
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| Rocha | Does anyone know if mono 1.1.4 will be available for ubuntu hoary? | 02:06 |
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| jharrison | farruinn: any ideas | 02:06 |
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| _mepis_lover | what player inphlict | 02:07 |
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| tsume | to explain why the newer nvidia module isn't in the archive? | 02:07 |
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| rvalles | Fackamato: I have that installed, but not gcc-3.3 | 02:07 |
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| rvalles | Fackamato: nor I want it, either. | 02:07 |
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| jharrison | farruinn: they are still talking in portuguese so I wait for more info translated to english | 02:07 |
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| audioslav | does anyone know if the kubuntu desktop has an applet like the software updates applet in hoary's gnome? | 02:07 |
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| inphlict | totem | 02:07 |
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| farruinn | jharrison: is this a fresh install of hoary or warty? upgrade to hoary? | 02:07 |
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| inphlict | I installed w32codecs and another I forget the name | 02:07 |
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| inphlict | from the unoffical guide | 02:07 |
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| inphlict | I have universes on and all the other stuff | 02:08 |
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| LinuxJones | rvalles, you will get an answer in #ubuntu-devel | 02:08 |
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| inphlict | which codec do I need to play divx/avi | 02:08 |
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| rvalles | LinuxJones: I'll go check | 02:08 |
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| _mepis_lover | avifile-win32-plugin | 02:08 |
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| inphlict | okay i'll try it | 02:08 |
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| _mepis_lover | i dont know if thats it | 02:08 |
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| memcmeme | Is it even possible to log into Gnome as root? | 02:08 |
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| helio1 | I'm pasting a SAMBA/print to windows error in #flood if anyone has a sec to decipher it for me I would be indebted... | 02:08 |
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| memcmeme | this is absurd | 02:09 |
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| farruinn | rvalles: you can make the symlink yourself | 02:09 |
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| inphlict | yeah it is mem | 02:09 |
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| inphlict | go read the forums | 02:09 |
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| audioslav | you have to enable root's login to do that memcmeme | 02:09 |
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| jharrison | farruinn: he copied over fonts from other linux installs to /usr/share/fonts/ttf | 02:09 |
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| memcmeme | how I looked on linuxforums and a lot of people were not able to | 02:09 |
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| memcmeme | but I did not find the answer | 02:09 |
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| inphlict | no such package ;/ | 02:09 |
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| jharrison | farruinn: prob didn't alter xorg.conf plus ubuntu likes to use gnome referenced fonts aka ~.fonts folder | 02:10 |
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| rvalles | farruinn: it wont be useful | 02:10 |
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| slurpas | Hello! how do i disable my firewall? | 02:10 |
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| jharrison | farruinn: he needs to alter his X files to get fonts a working | 02:10 |
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| farruinn | jharrison: yeah,I was going to say he should have put them in ~/.fonts | 02:10 |
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| memcmeme | be right back | 02:10 |
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| thenuke | slurpas: :o does ubuntu have firewall? | 02:10 |
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| jharrison | farruinn: ok I will relay the message | 02:11 |
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| _mepis_lover | apt-get install msttcorefonts | 02:11 |
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| thenuke | slurpas: at least warty did not have it when I installed it | 02:11 |
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| slurpas | thenuke.. i think so? | 02:11 |
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| farruinn | jharrison: ask him to use a different font | 02:11 |
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| farruinn | farruinn: like freesans or something | 02:11 |
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| jharrison | farruinn: ok | 02:11 |
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| slurpas | thenuke, ok... maby its something else.. but i cant connect to a program on my linux-comp.. i just reinstalled it and have configurated it as before.. | 02:11 |
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| helio1 | slurpas: / thenuke firestarter is one easy firewall you can install on warty, there is no firewall installed/enabled by default... if you have firestarter, you can access it via the System configuration menu | 02:12 |
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| audioslav | does anyone else feel like all the new cool system config applets are in the gnome desktop and not in kubuntu? | 02:12 |
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| slurpas | but then i had fedora core 3 with firewall.. who i needed to disable to connect.. | 02:12 |
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| jharrison | farruinn: he is using hoary preview 5.04 | 02:12 |
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| slurpas | helio1, how? | 02:12 |
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| farruinn | rvalles: why not? | 02:12 |
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| farruinn | jharrison: if he is having the problem with default ubuntu fonts then it should be reported but if the problem is with user installed fonts then I'm not sure... | 02:13 |
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| jharrison | farruinn: ok | 02:13 |
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| helio1 | I have firestarter on one Ubuntu system and it's configurable as menu item under Computer>System Configuration | 02:13 |
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| slurpas | oki thx :) | 02:13 |
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| Amaranth | rvalles: hey | 02:13 |
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| rvalles | Amaranth: hi | 02:13 |
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| helio1 | If you didn't install a firewall, I suspect that's not the problem. | 02:13 |
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| rvalles | Amaranth: well, it's turning me crazy | 02:14 |
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| Amaranth | rvalles: sudo ln -s /usr/bin/gcc3.4 /usr/bin/gcc | 02:14 |
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| rvalles | Amaranth: I can do that, yeah | 02:14 |
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| jharrison | farruinn: appears to be user installed fonts | 02:14 |
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| memcmeme | ok | 02:14 |
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| rvalles | Amaranth: but that's definitivelly NOT the way. | 02:14 |
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| memcmeme | it didn't wok | 02:14 |
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| Amaranth | rvalles: yes it is | 02:14 |
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| jharrison | farruinn: so I dont think a bug report would be warrented | 02:14 |
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| memcmeme | work* | 02:14 |
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| rvalles | Amaranth: and I want to know the way; the ubuntu way, that is. | 02:14 |
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| Amaranth | rvalles: you removed gcc3.3, it removed the symlink | 02:14 |
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| memcmeme | I have never heard of a Linux distro that doesn't set up a root password by default | 02:14 |
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| rvalles | Amaranth: let's see a thing | 02:14 |
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| jharrison | farruinn: if ubuntu's bts is anything like debian anyways | 02:14 |
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| memcmeme | I dont een have one | 02:14 |
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| slurpas | okai! thx anyway.. need to chech my router also.. | 02:14 |
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| memcmeme | even | 02:14 |
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| rvalles | Amaranth: why if I do a "kk" I get a bash: kk: command not found | 02:14 |
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| memcmeme | its just my normal password | 02:15 |
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| Amaranth | rvalles: because kk doesn't exist? | 02:15 |
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| rvalles | Amaranth: and if I do a gcc I get a bash: /usr/bin/gcc: No existe el fichero o el directorio | 02:15 |
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| memcmeme | it never asked me to create one | 02:15 |
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| audioslav | at the end of the day, is there any difference in installing warty and apting to hoary or installing hoary preview? | 02:15 |
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| rvalles | Amaranth: ? | 02:15 |
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| farruinn | jharrison: agreed | 02:15 |
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| Amaranth | rvalles: translation? | 02:15 |
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| rvalles | Amaranth: why does the error say /usr/bin/gcc? | 02:15 |
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| rvalles | Amaranth: translation is, file or dir doesn't exist | 02:15 |
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| farruinn | jharrison: the free* fonts have all the latin characters, he must have been using a font that wasn't complete | 02:15 |
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| Amaranth | because the symlink is there, gcc3.3 isn't | 02:15 |
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| Amaranth | sudo rm /usr/bin/gcc | 02:16 |
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| rvalles | Amaranth: but the symlink isn't | 02:16 |
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| Amaranth | then sudo ln -s /usr/bin/gcc3.4 /usr/bin/gcc | 02:16 |
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| rvalles | Amaranth: ls -l /usr/bin/gcc gives a file not found | 02:16 |
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| Amaranth | rvalles: sounds like you seriously broke things | 02:16 |
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| Amaranth | rvalles: just create the symlink | 02:16 |
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| jharrison | farruinn: sounds right to me | 02:16 |
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| rvalles | Amaranth: I could, easily | 02:17 |
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| rvalles | Amaranth: yet... | 02:17 |
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| rvalles | Amaranth: I have an unanswered question | 02:17 |
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| rvalles | Amaranth: which is... | 02:17 |
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| Amaranth | rvalles: there is no "ubuntu way" when you intentionally break things | 02:17 |
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| Amaranth | rvalles: my answer is don't worry about it :P | 02:17 |
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| rvalles | Amaranth: why if I type "kk" I get that error | 02:17 |
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| rvalles | Amaranth: and if I type "gcc" I get that OTHER error, with the full path on it, even? | 02:17 |
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| helio1 | If anyone has any experience with printing via SAMBA to Windows, please help; i'm after hours in a classroom that's not mine, helping someone else and very frustrated that I can't get a test page to print to a Windows connected printer from Ubuntu | 02:18 |
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| treke | rvalles: you get that error because kk is not in the path | 02:18 |
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| treke | gcc is apparantly in your path somewhere | 02:18 |
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| rvalles | treke: I thought that much | 02:18 |
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| treke | which `gcc` may tell you where | 02:18 |
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| Amaranth | rvalles: bash: /usr/bin/gcc: No such file or directory | 02:18 |
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| treke | which 'gcc' | 02:18 |
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| Amaranth | rvalles: i get that when the symlink exists but the thing it points to doesn't | 02:19 |
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| rvalles | treke: file or dir doesn't exist | 02:19 |
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| navreet | hi, what software should I use to burn .bin/cue files? | 02:19 |
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| rvalles | treke: doing which `gcc` | 02:19 |
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| treke | dont do that : | 02:20 |
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| treke | do which 'gcc' | 02:20 |
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| Amaranth | navreet: downloading movies, are we? :) | 02:20 |
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| rvalles | treke: I guess "which gcc" | 02:20 |
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| sirukin | cat filename >> /dev/cdrom0 | 02:20 |
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| Amaranth | navreet: you need bin2iso | 02:20 |
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| sirukin | try it | 02:20 |
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| rvalles | treke: the worst is that I'm doing this for a person who doesn't speak english | 02:21 |
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| rvalles | treke: I'm telling him which commands to type and all, he pastes me the results | 02:21 |
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| rvalles | treke: quite fun | 02:21 |
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| rvalles | treke: which gcc returns nothing :O | 02:21 |
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| dabi | how can i have numlock enabled when gdm boots? i have numlockx installed but dont know where to add the command :( | 02:21 |
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| navreet | Amaranth, any gui? | 02:22 |
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| farruinn | rvalles: why don't you ssh to his system? ;) | 02:22 |
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| Amaranth | navreet: not that i'm aware of | 02:22 |
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| rvalles | farruinn: I'll do that, eventually | 02:22 |
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| rvalles | farruinn: but I want to avoid doing that. | 02:22 |
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| treke | rvalles: if your taking what we say and translating it to him and translating his answer back, I suspect we'll never find a solution :) | 02:22 |
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| LinuxJones | dabi, gnome-sesssion-properties under startup programs | 02:22 |
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| treke | too many links in the chain | 02:22 |
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| helio1 | navreet I think K3b will do it | 02:22 |
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| rvalles | farruinn: If I ssh and do everything... ;) | 02:22 |
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| rvalles | farruinn: the guy won't be able to do it himself ever. | 02:22 |
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| rvalles | farruinn: and I'll be working as an admin for him forever or till I grow tired | 02:23 |
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| rvalles | farruinn: I'm just trying to avoid that by not sshing into his box. | 02:23 |
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| dabi | LinuxJones: hmm mayby i should google first.. :P first hit from google: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=16891 tseh.. ty anyway.. srry :P | 02:23 |
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| LinuxJones | dabi, :) | 02:23 |
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| gfxstyler | hey again :) | 02:23 |
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| ells | has anyone notices if one of the ubuntu sources is down | 02:24 |
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| gfxstyler | ells: really? i checked synaptic for 30 minutes and it didnt complain about any errors | 02:24 |
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| farruinn | LinuxJones: just having numlockx installed does it for me... | 02:24 |
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| farruinn | ells: I just updated fine, maybe it's your mirror | 02:25 |
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| rvalles | farruinn: my conclusion is that the different errors are probably linked to some sort of cache... | 02:25 |
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| rvalles | farruinn: which bash does internally have | 02:25 |
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| gfxstyler | is there another way of speeding up cdrom than hdparm -d 1 /dev/cdrom ? | 02:25 |
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| rvalles | I'll do some tests on that on my own box later; I just want to be sure. | 02:25 |
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| rvalles | (I have it when I don't have the absolute control :D) | 02:25 |
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| ells | something about http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-sceurity/restricted Sources not available | 02:25 |
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| rvalles | *hate | 02:26 |
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| helio1 | oh well, THREE hours troublshooting samba printing to windows and I'm no closer than when I started... I guess I'm giving up for the day now; | 02:26 |
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| goodoldunclemike | ?..i set my network up with samba...i open up network servers...i can see the drive partition that i a shareing with windows...but it shows empty..so i did a share on each folder..and it still shows empty | 02:26 |
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| ells | faruinn: something about http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-sceurity/restricted Sources not available | 02:26 |
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| gfxstyler | & why does alsa not work when esd is running? | 02:26 |
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| farruinn | rvalles: :) | 02:26 |
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| LinuxJones | farruinn, I don't even have it installed, I was just trying to help someone else :D | 02:26 |
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| farruinn | LinuxJones: yeah, just an fyi if your here when he comes back | 02:26 |
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| geneo91 | farruinn: sorry i crashed this thing | 02:26 |
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| farruinn | geneo91: oh no :( | 02:27 |
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| geneo91 | yep lost all my info | 02:27 |
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| geneo91 | where did that point | 02:27 |
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| farruinn | ells: if you copy-pasted that it'd be because security isn't spelled correctly... | 02:27 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | may i ask which fs i should use to install to? | 02:28 |
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| farruinn | geneo91: sudo ln -s /usr/java/jre1.5.0_01/bin/java /usr/bin/java | 02:28 |
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| farruinn | geneo91: and sudo ln -s /usr/java/jre1.5.0_01/bin/java_vm /usr/bin/java_vm | 02:28 |
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| ells | naw, typed over from other computer | 02:28 |
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| geneo91 | ln: `/usr/bin/java': File exists | 02:29 |
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| dabi | hmm i dont get it.. i see 243 updates available but after i install i still see 243.. :S rare.. | 02:29 |
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| farruinn | ells: Hit ... hoary-security/restricted Sources | 02:29 |
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| geneo91 | ln: `/usr/bin/java_vm': File exists on both | 02:29 |
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| joh | Is it possible to cache all packages from a repository? | 02:29 |
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| farruinn | geneo91: I think that means the link already exists, check with ls -l /usr/bin/java_vm | 02:30 |
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| geneo91 | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 33 2005-02-09 02:54 /usr/bin/java_vm -> /usr/java/jre1.5.0_01/bin/java_vm | 02:31 |
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| geneo91 | leme see if i can irc azureus | 02:33 |
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| farruinn | ok, that's good =) | 02:33 |
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| geneo91 | damn no such channel | 02:34 |
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| helio1 | What's the command to restart cupsd?? | 02:34 |
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| gremid | helio1, "sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart" | 02:35 |
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| geneo91 | ok got it | 02:36 |
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| helio1 | ty gremid | 02:36 |
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| CarlK_ | I am doing a net install, and it is prompting for "Choose a mirror of the Ubuntu archive" - any idea what the URL is? | 02:36 |
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| farruinn | geneo91: it's working? | 02:37 |
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| helio1 | I'll be damned; 3 hours later the window printer finally responds; now I can go home exhausted but victorious instead of exhausted and bitter lmao | 02:38 |
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| jharrison | farruinn: got it fixed | 02:38 |
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| jharrison | farruinn: thanks for your help | 02:38 |
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| farruinn | jharrison: excellent, what was the solution? | 02:38 |
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| helio1 | thanks for listening to me complain about it | 02:38 |
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| jharrison | farruinn: apparently he had transfered some windows fonts from an actual windows installation to ubuntu | 02:38 |
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| jharrison | farruinn: and that had ill effects | 02:38 |
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| farruinn | uh huh... :) | 02:39 |
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| jharrison | farruinn: not sure why anyone would want windows fonts in linux but ohw ell | 02:39 |
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| jharrison | farruinn: so he deleted the folder he had put them in and restarted X and it works fine now | 02:39 |
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| farruinn | ah, well at least they didn't overwrite any fonts | 02:39 |
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| navreet | hi, my computers starts acting slow (I think it's the IO) when I burn a CD... and I only burn at ~20x, when my burner is capable of 52x... I had PC3200 ram and an Opteron 148.. (it shouldn't be this slow) | 02:40 |
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| navreet | my mp3 playback slows down... and I get a lot of static from xmms (kinda like it's dropping stuff) | 02:41 |
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| Fackamato | jharrison: uh | 02:41 |
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| Fackamato | of course you need MS fonts | 02:41 |
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| Fackamato | some pages doesn't display proper otherwise. | 02:41 |
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| Fackamato | navreet: is everything accelerated? use native alsa, hardware mixing, hardware acceleration on the graphics card with DRI using agpgart of the build-in agp driver in the kernel module | 02:42 |
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| M_Fatih | hi all, i newly installed hoary | 02:43 |
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| Fackamato | uhu | 02:43 |
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| M_Fatih | i want to add mp3 support to rhythymbox, i searched in google this, i says, install gstreamer0.8-mad plug-in, but there isn't any packages like this.. no mad pachages.. | 02:44 |
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| navreet | Fackamato, yep | 02:44 |
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| navreet | Fackamato, actually using nVidia stuff... but that's not the issue | 02:44 |
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| Fackamato | using nvidia's driver from nvidia.com ? | 02:44 |
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| farruinn | M_Fatih: you need to enable universe first | 02:44 |
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| Fackamato | you get 2000+fps in glxgears etc? | 02:44 |
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| Fackamato | navreet: what mainboard chipset | 02:44 |
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| navreet | Fackamato, ..and the video isn't slow.. I have cycles to spare, it's the IO | 02:45 |
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| M_Fatih | farruinn, how do i do it? | 02:45 |
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| geneo91 | well that was useless | 02:45 |
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| navreet | Fackamato, it's not the graphics | 02:45 |
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| Fackamato | navreet: yes it is | 02:45 |
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| navreet | Fackamato, also 2000+ fps on glxgears doesn't mean anything | 02:45 |
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| Fackamato | you haven't even said what video output you use | 02:45 |
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| Fackamato | .......................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................... | 02:45 |
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| Fackamato | of fucking course it means anything | 02:45 |
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| Fackamato | it means your glx acceleration works | 02:45 |
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| navreet | Fackamato, it's accelerated, trust me... I write a lot of graphics stuff | 02:45 |
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| M_Fatih | i don't know anything about ubuntu, only i liked & installed.. i didn't used debian or debian based distro.. only i used apt, too many time ago in suse.. | 02:46 |
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| navreet | and watch your language | 02:46 |
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| Fackamato | well | 02:46 |
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| Fackamato | navreet: you don't want to get help | 02:46 |
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| farruinn | M_Fatih: sorry, I wasn't in gnome atm | 02:46 |
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| CarlK_ | net install is doing this and "failing" (guessing no output is the problem) wget -q http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu//dists/hoary/Release -O - | grep ^Suite: | cut -d' ' -f 2 | 02:46 |
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| navreet | Fackamato, my asking for help doesn't give you an excuse you to start using profane language | 02:47 |
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| farruinn | M_Fatih: go to the System>Administration>Syanaptic Package Manager | 02:47 |
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| M_Fatih | hm. ok | 02:47 |
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| CarlK_ | the wget does return the file (despite the //) but the grep doesnt return anyting | 02:47 |
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| M_Fatih | i try to do it in console.. | 02:47 |
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| M_Fatih | why my sudo command sucks in root password | 02:48 |
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| farruinn | M_Fatih: oh, you don't want to use synaptic from console | 02:48 |
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| Fackamato | navreet: please | 02:48 |
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| Fackamato | grow up | 02:48 |
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| M_Fatih | i changed my root password but it returns wrong pass.. | 02:48 |
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| Fackamato | you don't give any info on your problem, and you tell people to fuck off when they try to help you | 02:48 |
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| farruinn | M_Fatih: if you've set a root password you need to use su, not sudo | 02:48 |
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| navreet | Fackamato, First I did not use that language, only you do... second, I told you it wasn't the graphics, it's the IO | 02:49 |
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| DarthFrog | Or use your password, not the root password, with sudo. | 02:49 |
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| M_Fatih | i did it, i'm changing to user root with su command.. but sudo command sucks.. | 02:49 |
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| farruinn | ok, that's fine... | 02:49 |
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| Fackamato | navreet: I don't care if it's the IO, you haven't said anything about what graphic card you have, what drivers you use, what chipset you have, if you're using oss or alsa, what vidoe output you use, if X is accelerated, what codec the video uses, what player you're playing it in | 02:49 |
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| brenden | the amd64 install torrent is broken | 02:50 |
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| farruinn | M_Fatih: you need to edit the file /etc/apt/sources.list, there are two lines that are commented out, it tells you which lines to uncomment | 02:50 |
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| M_Fatih | hmm. looking.. | 02:50 |
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| navreet | Fackamato, you are not even reading what I say... I am not even trying to play a video or anything | 02:50 |
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| navreet | Fackamato, I quote, "hi, my computers starts acting slow (I think it's the IO) when I burn a CD... and I only burn at ~20x, when my burner is capable of 52x... I had PC3200 ram and an Opteron 148.. (it shouldn't be this slow)" | 02:50 |
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| navreet | Fackamato, If I were watching a dvd in mplayer or something, I'd understand, but I am not doing that | 02:51 |
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| Fackamato | <navreet> Fackamato, ..and the video isn't slow.. I have cycles to spare, it's the IO | 02:51 |
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| farruinn | M_Fatih: something like 'su nano /etc/apt/sources.list' would work | 02:51 |
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| Fackamato | you still haven't answered my questions | 02:51 |
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| M_Fatih | i changed all "deb... " lines to uncommented.. | 02:51 |
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| navreet | Fackamato, that's when you asked me about my graphics drivers... and I was referring to X refreshing | 02:51 |
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| farruinn | M_Fatih: ok, then as root run apt-get update | 02:51 |
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| DarthFrog | M_Fatih: Now do "apt-get update" | 02:51 |
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| navreet | Fackamato, I am done burning the data... I gotta go | 02:52 |
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| M_Fatih | i have a problem in "sudo". it not accept my root's password, why? | 02:52 |
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| geneo91 | farruinn: they tell me i need runtime going | 02:52 |
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| farruinn | M_Fatih: sudo uses your user password, su uses the root password | 02:52 |
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| M_Fatih | ahh :( | 02:53 |
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| farruinn | geneo91: as in jre? | 02:53 |
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| M_Fatih | haha i don't know it.. | 02:53 |
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| geneo91 | yes | 02:53 |
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| yyc747 | have I been misinformed, or will hoary have KDE? | 02:53 |
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| DarthFrog | yyc747: I'm running it right now. | 02:53 |
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| geneo91 | java console | 02:53 |
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| DarthFrog | yyc747: KDE 3.4 | 02:53 |
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| DarthFrog | yyc747: It's nice and crunchy. | 02:53 |
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| farruinn | yyc747: there's even an install cd, link to preview release in /topic | 02:54 |
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| phas | Hi, i have a question.Ubuntu insists on startup to try to load garbage like hotplug or RAID support, when my pre-jurassic matherboards do not support them.How can I prevent these modules to be loaded on startup? | 02:54 |
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| yyc747 | DarthFrog: ooooh... I'm on gentoo, so I think I'm going to wait on KDE 3.4 :) but ubuntu could be my next distro of choice... and certainly will be my choice to convert people with | 02:54 |
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| yyc747 | is it just kubuntu with kde? | 02:55 |
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| M_Fatih | E: Broken packages ?? | 02:55 |
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| farruinn | kde is to kubuntu as gnome is to ubuntu | 02:55 |
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| DarthFrog | yyc747: I really like Ubuntu. I also have Mandrake, Fedora, Debian, Gentoo and Linspire installed. Kubuntu is going to be my desktop. | 02:55 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | eek for kde | 02:55 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | :) | 02:55 |
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| M_Fatih | how can i upgrade a spesific package? | 02:56 |
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| farruinn | M_Fatih: you probably just need to run 'apt-get upgrade' | 02:56 |
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| DarthFrog | M_Fatih: use Synaptic. | 02:56 |
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| apokryphos | M_Fatih: sudo apt-get install <certainpackage> | 02:56 |
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| farruinn | yeah, synaptic will make your life easy | 02:56 |
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| apokryphos | M_Fatih: sudo apt-get update first | 02:56 |
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| M_Fatih | DarthFrog, ok | 02:56 |
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| DarthFrog | apokryphos: You can do that from Synaptic. | 02:56 |
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| M_Fatih | apokryphos, i did it.. | 02:56 |
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| username | in ubuntu, are there any screen-savers that consist of simply a clock? | 02:56 |
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| apokryphos | DarthFrog: I know. :) | 02:57 |
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| username | apart from the one called 'gltext (clock)' that is. | 02:57 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | lol | 02:57 |
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| keffo | hm | 02:57 |
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| keffo | anyone knows about any xchat -> xmms script.. just easy, nothing more than displaying what song currently playing? | 02:58 |
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| M_Fatih | gstreamer0.8-mad: | 02:58 |
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| M_Fatih | Depends: libid3tag0 (>=0.15.0b) but it is not installable | 02:58 |
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| M_Fatih | Depends: libmad0 (>=0.15.1b) but it is not installable | 02:58 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | theres lots - just customize them? | 02:58 |
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| username | lots of clock screensavers? I can't find any. | 02:59 |
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| farruinn | lots of scripts I think | 03:00 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | no i mean xchat xmms script | 03:00 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | lol | 03:00 |
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| phas | Hi, i have a question.Ubuntu insists on startup to try to load garbage like hotplug or RAID support, when my pre-jurassic matherboards do not support them.How can I prevent these modules to be loaded on startup? | 03:00 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | i guess using any FileSystem is like using which DE | 03:01 |
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| farruinn | phas: I think you need to look at update-rc.d, I don't know how to use it though so I can't walk you through it | 03:01 |
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| fgx | phas, /etc/hotplug/blacklist | 03:02 |
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| fgx | phas, just add the module you dont want to be loaded at boot | 03:02 |
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| johnf1911 | isn't hotplug used to manage some non-hotplugable devices? | 03:02 |
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| M_Fatih | Depends: libid3tag0 (>= 0.15.0b) but it is not installable i searched libid3tag package.. no package, how can i fix this error... | 03:07 |
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| M_Fatih | :-( ? | 03:08 |
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| farruinn | libid3tag0, the trailing 0 is part of the package name | 03:09 |
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| limaunion | having some troubles while upgrading to Hoary, apt-get update displays many errors while trying to fetch Packages.gz (404 Not found) any ideas what's going on ? I'm following the wiki steps... | 03:09 |
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| M_Fatih | farruinn, i tried this "libid3tag" | 03:09 |
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| M_Fatih | no package :( | 03:10 |
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| M_Fatih | id3tag | 03:10 |
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| apokryphos | limaunion: did you change all your sources.list? | 03:10 |
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| conner | M_Fatih: are you running warthog or hedgehog? | 03:10 |
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| farruinn | limaunion: get rid of any backports or hoary-updates repositories from your sources.list | 03:10 |
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| M_Fatih | conner, hoarty | 03:10 |
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| farruinn | M_Fatih: you're sure you've enabled universe? apt-get update had no problems? | 03:10 |
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| M_Fatih | no problems :( | 03:11 |
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| username | nothing I can do about the mountain of useless and ugly screensavers then, and no suitable clock one? | 03:11 |
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| conner | M_Fatih: you should be able to apt-get install libid3tag0 | 03:11 |
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| ogra | M_Fatih, is your package list up to date ? libid3tag0 and libmad0 are in main....you should get them right away | 03:11 |
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| conner | M_Fatih: let me try it on mine | 03:11 |
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| limaunion | sure, I only have hoary references, three lines, taken from http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GuideToHoary | 03:12 |
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| _mepis_lover | i see kubuntu 5.04 preview is available | 03:12 |
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| conner | M_Fatih: it worked for me. They appear to be in main. Try apt-get update first | 03:12 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | lol | 03:12 |
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| apokryphos | limaunion: could you www.pastebin.com the error output? | 03:12 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | _mepis_lover haha | 03:12 |
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| apokryphos | _mepis_lover: that's right :) | 03:12 |
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| M_Fatih | it says : | 03:12 |
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| M_Fatih | Package libid3tag0 is not available, but is referred to by another package. | 03:12 |
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| M_Fatih | This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or | 03:12 |
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| M_Fatih | is only available from another source | 03:12 |
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| username | never mind. | 03:13 |
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| ogra | M_Fatih, did you fiddle with your sources.list ? | 03:13 |
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| lunitik | M_Fatih: you need to activate universe | 03:13 |
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| conner | M_Fatih: open a root terminal and type "apt-get update" then retry it. | 03:13 |
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| M_Fatih | i did it.. 1min. | 03:13 |
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| ogra | M_Fatih, looks like you disabled main | 03:13 |
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| farruinn | lunitik: not for libid3tag0 | 03:13 |
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| _mepis_lover | thehatsrule: don't hate me 'cause I am from the wrong side of the tracks | 03:14 |
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| limaunion | apokryphos: thanks for your help, now I just left 'deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary main restricted' and it's ok. | 03:14 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | im not hating ;p | 03:14 |
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| M_Fatih | http://pastebin.com/260017 | 03:14 |
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| M_Fatih | look this.. | 03:14 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | its just funny, cause i just ditched mepis | 03:14 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | for ubuntu | 03:14 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | :P | 03:14 |
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| ogra | _mepis_lover, nah, we all love kubuntu ;) in fact there is array7 which is newer then preview | 03:14 |
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| apokryphos | limaunion: alrighty :) | 03:14 |
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| lunitik | farruinn: you sure thats not in universe? its from the mad folks... | 03:14 |
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| ogra | lunitik, its in main | 03:14 |
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| farruinn | lunitik: apt-cache show libid3tag0 | grep Section | 03:14 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | no kubuntu cause of the K hehe | 03:14 |
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| limaunion | apokryphos: will see what's going on because I started with synaptic and now can't start gnome (after upgrading from Warty) | 03:15 |
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| ogra | lunitik, gstreamer0.8-mad is in universe though | 03:15 |
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| ells | has anyone besides me installed hoary preview edition | 03:15 |
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| lunitik | ogra: my bad then... heh | 03:15 |
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| farruinn | ells: I have | 03:15 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | ells, tis fine? | 03:15 |
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| ells | farruinn, ,works god | 03:15 |
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| apokryphos | limaunion: you're on hoary now? Was the dist-upgrade successful? | 03:15 |
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| ells | ^thehatsrule^ install was easy, changed the sources | 03:16 |
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| conner | M_Fatih: add this "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted" | 03:16 |
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| farruinn | M_Fatih: you've disabled main man =), you've got to get rid of those #'s | 03:16 |
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| farruinn | conner: he has it, it's commented out | 03:16 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | heh, well is it like... fine to use i mean as well ;p | 03:16 |
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| farruinn | M_Fatih: leave the lines with hoary-updates commented though | 03:17 |
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| ells | ^thehatsrule^ works good, the install seemed very intuitive | 03:17 |
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| conner | farruinn: he's in for one big download session. | 03:17 |
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| _mepis_lover | thehatsrule: i will keep a light on for 'ya | 03:17 |
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| M_Fatih | i'm tryin.. | 03:17 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | eek! but i want to install it using one of those nice cd's | 03:17 |
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| ells | ^thehatsrule^ warty would not work on my desktop, this one does | 03:17 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | really? | 03:18 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | why? | 03:18 |
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| ells | ^thehatsrule^ download and make your own, that is what I did | 03:18 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | heh, its just that i downloaded the 2 v4 cds | 03:18 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | today already | 03:18 |
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| limaunion | apokryphos: yes, my notebook was till 2 hours ago, I updated my /etc/apt/ and made the update via Synaptic, going to the 'upgrade' section or something like that and selected all of them (all went ok), next I restarted the system but now it seems that some packages were left, apt-get dist-upgrade seems to be taken care of that | 03:18 |
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| ells | ^thehatsrule^ okay, I hear ya | 03:19 |
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| ells | ^thehatsrule^ used cd rw | 03:19 |
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| ells | ^thehatsrule^to reuse if need be | 03:19 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | yea, thats what i use ;p | 03:19 |
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| M_Fatih | i don't know anything about apt, debian.. i newly installed, sorry for newbie suck questions :) i have no time, i need install apache + php + mysql quickly.. sorry.. | 03:19 |
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| ells | ^thehatsrule^ your good then | 03:19 |
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| delltony | quick question if i want to backup my /var/www into a tar with bzip2 isn't it tar c /var/www/* | bzip2 >mysite.tar.bz ? | 03:19 |
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| apokryphos | limaunion: in Terminal, try typing sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade | 03:19 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | designated linux cd - has currently held 3 os's before | 03:20 |
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| conner | M_Fatih: no problem. Once you get that line uncommented, you'll be up and running in. | 03:20 |
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| conner | M_Fatih: but you'll be downloading a LOT of updates the first time. | 03:20 |
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| farruinn | M_Fatih: synaptic will allow you to search and select those packages quickly | 03:20 |
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| ells | ^thehatsrule^ nice, ubuntu for me seems to be the most user friendly I have ever used | 03:20 |
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| M_Fatih | yes it works :) | 03:20 |
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| M_Fatih | thanks | 03:20 |
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| conner | M_Fatih: are you looking at Apache2 or Apache1.3? | 03:21 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | lol, well im not sure which one to use still | 03:21 |
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| JDahl | I finally bit the bullet, and installed Ubuntu/Hoary instead of Debian/testing on my machine at work... It's absolutely amazing how everything works without any tweaking - now if only that was my home machine :P | 03:21 |
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| M_Fatih | i'm a gentoo user, i bored with compile everything.. | 03:21 |
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| ells | ^thehatsrule^ I had debian on here before | 03:21 |
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| M_Fatih | i trien gnome 2.10 @ ubuntu live.. i like so much.. | 03:21 |
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| ells | M-Fatih, welcome aboard | 03:21 |
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| M_Fatih | thanks :) | 03:21 |
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| limaunion | apokryphos: yes, I did that, now it's download mainly gstreamer packages and some others, don't now why Synaptic didn't updated those. fam is going to be removed, is that ok ? | 03:21 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | heh - somehow everyone doesn't use the original debian? | 03:21 |
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| ells | ^thehatsrule^ I went to the irc line and those folks were rude | 03:22 |
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| ells | and immature | 03:22 |
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| apokryphos | limaunion: yes, that's fine. Go for it. | 03:22 |
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| conner | ^thehatsrule^: I use the original Debian on servers. It's rock solid and simple to update. | 03:22 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | hm... | 03:22 |
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| limaunion | apokryphos: ok, thanks | 03:22 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | the problem is all the os's | 03:23 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | dont know WHICH one to stick with | 03:23 |
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| M_Fatih | conner, 2 or 1.3 no problem,, only i want php 4.3+ :) | 03:23 |
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| farruinn | M_Fatih: apt is a really great package management tool, you'll get the hang of it in no time | 03:23 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | cause every one of them has its goods | 03:23 |
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| ogra | ^thehatsrule^, but only ubuntu has the ubuntu community ;) | 03:23 |
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| ells | this might sound funny, is there any kind of eq program out there | 03:23 |
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| conner | M_Fatih: you might want to stick with Apache1.3 then. You have to choose a specific branch of Apache2 for PHP to work securely. | 03:23 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | equalizer? | 03:24 |
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| lunitik | ^thehatsrule^: most people are leaving Debian because of the bad release cycle... Ubuntu just makes more sense for the Desktop User... | 03:24 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | heh, no offense, but im more to the software first :P | 03:24 |
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| M_Fatih | farruinn, yes i know, i used in suse so many times ago.. | 03:24 |
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| farruinn | M_Fatih: ah, I see | 03:24 |
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| JDahl | lunitik, as a desktop user once you have Debian installed, you dont really need more releases... I chose Ubuntu over Debian because how nicely everything is configured | 03:25 |
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| ells | does anyone know a good equalizer program for rhythmbox | 03:25 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | cant you use alsamix? | 03:25 |
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| ells | ahhh, never tried | 03:25 |
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| ells | guess I could | 03:25 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | heh | 03:25 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | if youre using KDE, use kmix? | 03:26 |
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| ells | is it already preinstalled doyou know | 03:26 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | yes, if you have alsa prolly ;p | 03:26 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | or, you could find/locate *mix* | 03:26 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | hehe | 03:26 |
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| lunitik | JDahl: true enough... I used Debian for 4 years without ever reinstalling on one box... but for new users, thats not acceptable... and the stigma for using Unstable is not popular... | 03:26 |
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| zenwhen | vcccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccc | 03:27 |
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| zenwhen | oops | 03:27 |
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| ogra | kittikittikitti | 03:27 |
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| farruinn | sticky key eh? | 03:27 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | well if either if i like ubuntu... or not, my next ones are slack,debian, then gentoo | 03:27 |
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| DarthFrog | zenwhen: Geshundheit! | 03:27 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | but now, debian seems not a good choice | 03:27 |
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| zenwhen | :'( | 03:28 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | Geshundheit? | 03:28 |
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| zenwhen | he may have thought i had sneezed | 03:28 |
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| zenwhen | i think its a blessing | 03:29 |
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| drspin | qtparted says that my disk is mounted but it's not... | 03:29 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | ah | 03:29 |
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| ogra | yup, german | 03:29 |
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| Fackamato | , | 03:29 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | reboot? :P | 03:29 |
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| drspin | what can i do? | 03:29 |
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| zenwhen | when in all actuality i really just let my head hit the keyboard | 03:29 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | type df or mount to double check? | 03:30 |
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| drspin | ./dev/hda7 20160796 19119836 16840 100% / | 03:30 |
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| drspin | tmpfs 257896 0 257896 0% /dev/shm | 03:30 |
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| fgx | here is my dmesg output after some beeps from my laptop: mtrr: 0xd8000000,0x4000000 overlaps existing 0xd8000000,0x200000 | 03:30 |
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| drspin | I'm trying to delete hda5 (NTFS) and resize my ext3 | 03:30 |
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| fgx | what's that? | 03:30 |
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| elcuco | how is called the application for recording flash "videos"? | 03:30 |
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| limaunion | apokryphos: maybe you can help me, apt-get dist-upgrade finished ok, but I still can't start gdm, /etc/init.d/gdm start doesn't work (no errors, just nothing). dpkg -l | grep xorg shows only 1 package, and dpkg-l | grep -i xfree shows 3, one still version 4.3 (xserver), any idea...? | 03:30 |
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| DarthFrog | drspin: Use cfdisk to delete the partition, then. | 03:31 |
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| farruinn | limaunion: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg | 03:31 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | hmm odd... did you already modify something? because then you might have had to reboot | 03:31 |
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| Fackamato | limaunion: what does the logs say? | 03:31 |
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| farruinn | I *think* that will get the dependencies you need | 03:31 |
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| ogra | limaunion, did you make sure you have ubuntu-desktop installed before you upgraded ? | 03:31 |
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| ogra | limaunion, its very important on upgrades | 03:32 |
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| rizla | hello | 03:32 |
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| fgx | ogra, is it safer to have all meta installed before a dist-upgrade? | 03:32 |
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| apokryphos | limaunion: what farruinn said... also, does startx work? | 03:32 |
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| rizla | can someone help me, lease? | 03:32 |
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| JDahl | rizla, what's the problem? | 03:33 |
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| ogra | fgx, yup....you can remove them later again...but thy make sure you gaet all the desired replacements | 03:33 |
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| limaunion | ogra: no, i didn't installed that... | 03:33 |
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| rizla | i've update to kubuntu... | 03:33 |
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| rizla | i'd like to come back to restore gnome.. | 03:33 |
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| ogra | rizla, /join #kubuntu | 03:33 |
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| apokryphos | limaunion: you should, then. It's a metapackage with all the dependencies. | 03:33 |
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| ogra | rizla, oh | 03:33 |
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| fgx | ogra, ok thx. | 03:33 |
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| apokryphos | limaunion: or rather... depends on all the necessary stuff. | 03:33 |
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| gratuit | does anyone know how to tell nautilus to not draw the background? I don't need icons and I'd rather just not have it run when gnome starts | 03:34 |
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| fgx | ogra, what do you think about: mtrr: 0xd8000000,0x4000000 overlaps existing 0xd8000000,0x200000 in dmesg? | 03:34 |
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| limaunion | apokryphos: but ogra says 'before' and here http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HoaryUpgradeNotes says after (now for me ;) ) | 03:34 |
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| apokryphos | limaunion: before is best | 03:34 |
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| ogra | limaunion, it doesnt matter when ;) | 03:34 |
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| apokryphos | ogra: well, surely you want to install it before a dist-upgrade? | 03:35 |
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| ogra | limaunion, just have it there at some point in the upgrade process | 03:35 |
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| apokryphos | ogra: or are you referring to before the updating of the sources? | 03:35 |
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| farruinn | gratuit: if you can find the gconf key the command you want is nautilus --no-desktop | 03:35 |
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| ogra | apokryphos, as i said, it doesnt matter, if you install it, it will care for the necessary replacements | 03:36 |
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| apokryphos | Eek, oh yeah. | 03:36 |
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| limaunion | ogra: ok, ...a lot of packages were left it seems, 126... | 03:36 |
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| Fackamato | hm | 03:36 |
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| Fackamato | how do I reinstlal gtk? | 03:36 |
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| DarthFrog | Fackamato: Use Synaptic, search for gtk and mark it for re-installation. | 03:37 |
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| Fackamato | doh | 03:38 |
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| Fackamato | i'm used to the terminal | 03:38 |
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| Fackamato | thakns | 03:38 |
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| ogra | rizla, removing libqt3c102 will remove everything that depends on it (KDE and friends) installing ubuntu-desktop will pull in all the gnome stuff again | 03:38 |
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| farruinn | Fackamato: your gtk2-engines-* packages | 03:38 |
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| geneo91 | screw that channel you get kicked if you even paste two lines that even look the same | 03:39 |
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| geneo91 | azureus-users channel | 03:39 |
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| farruinn | geneo91: still battling, eh? | 03:40 |
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| lunitik | geneo91: why are you telling us? | 03:40 |
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| geneo91 | fucking ediots | 03:40 |
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| geneo91 | cause i cant tell them | 03:40 |
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| geneo91 | i got kicked 4 times | 03:41 |
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| geneo91 | azbot | 03:41 |
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| ogra | geneo91, use #flood and point them there | 03:41 |
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| apokryphos | or a pastebin service | 03:42 |
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| geneo91 | i not going to use it since they are such asshloe | 03:42 |
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| _joey | is ubuntu good? | 03:43 |
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| elcuco | where can i find vnc2swf for ubuntu? do i need to install it from debian unstable? | 03:43 |
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| elcuco | _joey, no, it's a piece of crap, install XP. | 03:43 |
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| geneo91 | azureus sucks now | 03:43 |
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| fgx | my laptop here is making a kind of funny concert :-) this is my dmesg: mtrr: 0xd8000000,0x4000000 overlaps existing 0xd8000000,0x200000 everyone is welcome to help me stopping the music :-) | 03:43 |
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| _joey | elcuco you said it, troll:) | 03:43 |
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| elcuco | _joey, nice question on a #ubuntu channel :) | 03:43 |
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| DonL | joey, you ask that on this channel? | 03:43 |
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| _joey | where else? | 03:44 |
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| DonL | Personally, I think it rocks bigtime | 03:44 |
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| DarthFrog | _joey: Good compared to what? To XP? To Debian? To green cheese? | 03:44 |
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| elcuco | #mandrake for example... | 03:44 |
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| geneo91 | yeah use xp with out fire wall and 5 minutes you have every known virus | 03:44 |
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| elcuco | geneo91, i got one on 30 secs on usage | 03:44 |
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| _joey | hmm, I can tell this distro attracts trolls | 03:44 |
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| _joey | :)) | 03:44 |
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| DonL | geneo91, lucky to get 30 seconds | 03:45 |
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| DarthFrog | _joey: I think most of us here would say that Ubuntu is very good indeed. | 03:45 |
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| DonL | lol | 03:45 |
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| geneo91 | DonL: i have dial up so it takes longer | 03:45 |
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| geneo91 | hehe | 03:45 |
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| elcuco | anyway... i am trying to add debian repository, and it tells me "The following signa tures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available". is this covered on some faq? | 03:45 |
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| apokryphos | _joey: no distro is perfect for everyone. Ubuntu is very nice, for several reasons. See the site on some of these. | 03:46 |
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| DarthFrog | elcuco: You can ignore that. | 03:46 |
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| geneo91 | elcuco: is that for hoary | 03:46 |
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| DarthFrog | elcuco: You probably got that from marilliat. | 03:46 |
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| Fackamato | http://www.tehjunkyard.net/pics/emulation/rollcage_superbowl | 03:46 |
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| M_Fatih | apt-get install apache + apt-get install php + apt-get install mysql ?? | 03:46 |
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| Fackamato | anyone beat that? | 03:46 |
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| Fackamato | no cheats | 03:46 |
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| apokryphos | _joey: trolls are actually reasonably rare in here. Only experienced a few myself. | 03:46 |
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| Fackamato | mysql-veser | 03:46 |
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| beefsprocket | anyone having problems with inotify and 2.6.11? | 03:46 |
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| DarthFrog | M_Fatih: Use && instead of + | 03:46 |
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| elcuco | well, i cant ignore it. since the package i want is on debian | 03:47 |
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| M_Fatih | noo not + :) | 03:47 |
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| crimsun | beefsprocket: 2.6.11-0.2? | 03:47 |
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| beefsprocket | hmm, not sure | 03:47 |
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| beefsprocket | can't uname since it locks my system | 03:47 |
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| beefsprocket | (the kernel that is) | 03:47 |
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| DonL | _joey, this site is excellent | 03:47 |
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| crimsun | beefsprocket: boot with "noinotify" | 03:47 |
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| beefsprocket | tried that | 03:47 |
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| beefsprocket | no good | 03:47 |
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| hypa7ia | hey beefsprocket! | 03:47 |
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| beefsprocket | hey! | 03:47 |
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| beefsprocket | how goes? | 03:47 |
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| beefsprocket | thought that might be you | 03:47 |
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| crimsun | beefsprocket: then you should be using 2.6.10-28 | 03:47 |
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| hypa7ia | nabad, you? | 03:47 |
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| beefsprocket | well, busy | 03:48 |
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| beefsprocket | hmm, 2.6.10... having a hard time with lufs and sound card drivers | 03:48 |
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| beefsprocket | so either way... | 03:48 |
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| hypa7ia | beefsprocket: yup, on here the nick hypatia is taken | 03:48 |
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| beefsprocket | hypatia: how's the lack of school treating you? | 03:48 |
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| hypa7ia | beefsprocket: very well :-) | 03:49 |
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| beefsprocket | lucky | 03:49 |
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| drspin | OH NO!! could someone help me? | 03:58 |
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| SysFail | OH NO!! | 03:58 |
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| drspin | partioning - grub and whatnot | 03:58 |
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| drspin | I booted off the Live CD so I could use fdisk to repartition my drive... I deleted my NTFS partion and wrote the new table... when I try and boot the system, Grub gives me "Error 22" | 03:59 |
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| geneo91 | driver numbers changed | 04:01 |
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| geneo91 | drive | 04:01 |
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| Dillweed | hi all. I was wondering if there was the possibility of getting an i686 release of ubunut? | 04:02 |
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| geneo91 | Dillweed: you may allready have 686 | 04:03 |
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| Dillweed | i mean more that just the kernel | 04:04 |
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| Dillweed | the whole system compiled for an i686 and not i386. (am I referring to this in the correct way) | 04:04 |
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| geneo91 | well the packages are configured to that | 04:04 |
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| memcmeme | ahoy | 04:05 |
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| Dillweed | are the packages compiled for an i386 or an i686? | 04:05 |
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| SysFail | argh mateys | 04:05 |
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| memcmeme | how is everyone here? | 04:05 |
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| Dillweed | memcmeme, good and you? | 04:05 |
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| geneo91 | Dillweed: just recompile them all or just get sources | 04:05 |
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| zerovertex | argh yourself ya scurvey dog | 04:05 |
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| Dillweed | geneo91, easier said than done, eh? I've been trying to get apt-build to work but so far ubuntu repositories don't have the source list for downloads just the packages | 04:06 |
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| SysFail | argh...we wants the redhead | 04:06 |
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| geneo91 | sure they do | 04:06 |
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| Dillweed | how do I get the source packages with apt-get ? | 04:08 |
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| memcmeme | I am doing just swell | 04:08 |
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| geneo91 | apt-get --help | 04:08 |
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| crimsun | Dillweed: apt-get source <package> | 04:08 |
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| DarthFrog | Dillweed: apt-get source | 04:08 |
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| Dillweed | lol ok ok i get it. | 04:08 |
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| drspin | geneo91, I don't understand how deleting hda6 would affect anything else on the drive... unless fdisk wrote a bad partiaion table... but then why would I be able to mount /dev/hda5 normally? | 04:09 |
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| geneo91 | drspin: is your ubuntu install after hda6 | 04:10 |
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| Dillweed | my next question is does it really make a difference to have programs compile for i386 or i686? | 04:13 |
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| memcmeme | I need some help | 04:13 |
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| memcmeme | I am trying install UT2K3 Demo | 04:14 |
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| memcmeme | its an executable, but it says it can't execute the binary | 04:14 |
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| SysFail | chmod +x utk3 | 04:14 |
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| Dillweed | memcmeme, who's the owner of the binary? | 04:14 |
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| SysFail | the filename | 04:14 |
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| SysFail | chmod +x filenamehere | 04:14 |
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| geneo91 | use wine | 04:14 |
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| SysFail | then itll execute | 04:15 |
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| memcmeme | I am | 04:15 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | sysfail hehe | 04:15 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | will fail | 04:15 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | :P | 04:15 |
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| memcmeme | I am using the Linux demo | 04:15 |
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| memcmeme | dude | 04:15 |
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| memcmeme | I don't need wine for that | 04:15 |
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| SysFail | I already did it | 04:15 |
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| SysFail | the +x worked | 04:15 |
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| === ^thehatsrule^ first time boot ubuntu... emulated |
| geneo91 | oh | 04:15 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | whats +x ? | 04:15 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | execute? | 04:16 |
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| SysFail | sets it to executable | 04:16 |
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| SysFail | then you can do ./filenamehere | 04:16 |
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| memcmeme | I know | 04:16 |
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| memcmeme | that is exactly what i did | 04:16 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | WOW! | 04:17 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | fast boot for livecd :) | 04:17 |
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| SysFail | speaking of boot | 04:17 |
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| SysFail | synaptic just did a major upgrade | 04:17 |
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| SysFail | brb | 04:17 |
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| geneo91 | mines slow no matter what i boot with 6 scsi drives | 04:18 |
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| limaunion | Well I finally upgraded to Hoary, but after starting gnome I get a big dialog box 'error: failed to initialize HAL!', any idea what's going on ? | 04:18 |
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| Quinn_Storm | limaunion: are you sure you're running a 2.6 kernel? | 04:19 |
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| limaunion | quinn_storm: yes, a self-compiled kernel (2.6.11) that worked ok with Warty | 04:19 |
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| geneo91 | limaunion: you need to reboot | 04:19 |
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| DanC_ub | btw... I switched to hoary a while ago; I did an apt-get upgrade tonight and it upgraded zillions of packages, but none of it seems visible. Is there anything new/cool that I could/should look for? | 04:19 |
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| limaunion | geneo91: i already rebooted the system | 04:20 |
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| Quinn_Storm | limaunion: okay, is hald running? | 04:20 |
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| memcmeme | anyone know why this bloody thing wont execute? | 04:20 |
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| limaunion | Quinn_Storm: yes, it's running | 04:20 |
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| geneo91 | memcmeme: try it in console | 04:20 |
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| DanC_ub | hmm... osd, alsa, esd, polypaudio, jack... http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DrainingTheLinuxAudioSwamp indeed! | 04:21 |
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| Quinn_Storm | limaunion: I don't know then, b/c if hald is running you shouldn't have any trouble...but I don 't use gnome so...nor have I ever had trouble with hal | 04:21 |
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| keffo | hm, in my homedir i got 2 dirs i want to show on desk.. best way to do this? create a link and drag-n-drop to desk? | 04:22 |
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| limaunion | Quinn_Storm: ok, thanks anyway, will see what can i do | 04:22 |
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| keffo | the thing is, that little blue arrow annyos me | 04:22 |
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| Quinn_Storm | limaunion: sorry I couldn't help more | 04:22 |
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| memcmeme | geneo91 are you on #flood? | 04:22 |
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| limaunion | Quinn_Storm: np | 04:22 |
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| memcmeme | I posted the feedback of that on Flood | 04:24 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | flood? | 04:24 |
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| Dillweed | no one answered my question? why is ubuntu only compiled for an i386? | 04:24 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | no... its not | 04:24 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | theres other architechtures as well | 04:24 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | check downloads mehtinks | 04:24 |
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| Dillweed | i don't mean architechtures | 04:24 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | huh? | 04:25 |
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| Dillweed | why don't they compile for an i686 processor? | 04:25 |
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| speel | Dillweed, well beacause its widley used | 04:25 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | well in terms of i386... thats architechture | 04:25 |
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| memcmeme | so what should I do? | 04:25 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | oh, optimized for? | 04:25 |
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| Dillweed | to take advange of the improvements in the i686? | 04:25 |
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| Dillweed | optimized is a better word :)( | 04:25 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | i suppose you try using boot options, like to turn on mce and so forth | 04:25 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | since its debian based? | 04:26 |
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| speel | Dillweed, well ubuntu is not aimed toward optimization :P | 04:26 |
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| memcmeme | NEVERMIND, the bastard mirror said it was the Linux demo but its the bloody windows demo | 04:26 |
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| memcmeme | sorry about that | 04:26 |
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| Dillweed | speel, true, however, if ubuntu is mainly aimed at desktop users, wouldn't it be advangateous to optimize the system? | 04:27 |
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| speel | Dillweed, well what if you have a low powerd cpu? | 04:27 |
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| Quest-Master | Dillweed: You can just upgrade your kernel to 686 if needed | 04:27 |
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| Dillweed | speel, not really, but the other software doesn't take advantage of the processor. | 04:28 |
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| Dillweed | I did upgrade the kernel to i686 | 04:28 |
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| speel | Dillweed, but with i386 it kinda covers all computers | 04:28 |
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| Quest-Master | If we did that Dillweed, we'd leave out all the people with older computers. | 04:28 |
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| Dillweed | speel, that I understand. but honestly how many people still have a 386 | 04:28 |
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| Quest-Master | Lots. | 04:29 |
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| Dillweed | even the pentium pro's were 586 | 04:29 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | heh | 04:29 |
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| Quest-Master | Especially ones that use Linux. | 04:29 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | stole me line! | 04:29 |
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| Quest-Master | Because they can use Linux to put those old machines to good use. | 04:29 |
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| speel | Dillweed, with them compiling it for 386 kinda just means every one can use it no matter what | 04:29 |
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| Dillweed | lol, i know. would it possible put out optimized builds? | 04:29 |
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| JDahl | Dillweed, I think I read that Ubuntu devs are experimented with architecture optimized prebuild packages to see if it makes a difference | 04:29 |
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| geneo91 | if you like waiting a week for gui to load | 04:30 |
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| speel | Dillweed, lol yea defently but i daught there worryed about archs right now | 04:30 |
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| fgx | do you know if/when ubuntu will support floppy install? | 04:31 |
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| Dillweed | speel, understandable. | 04:31 |
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| speel | :) | 04:31 |
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| Dillweed | I've been using (don't shoot me) gentoo for the past 1.5 years and really like the speed, but can't stand the compile times. | 04:31 |
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| ^thehatsrule^` | yay | 04:32 |
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| limaunion | previously i reported that i was having some trouble while trying to update via apt-get, am i wrong or the example at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GuideToHoary is wrong ? i mean, doesn't need to be a / at the end of the repositories? | 04:32 |
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| JDahl | Dillweed, but I guess that typical user tasks arent particularly CPU intensive... what kind of packages would you like to see optimized? | 04:32 |
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| speel | fgx, i dont think they will , i personally never found a article about it | 04:32 |
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| ^thehatsrule^` | <-- on ubuntu :) | 04:32 |
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| Dillweed | JDahl, well honestly all of them. especially the frontend stuff. gnome, firefox, etc. | 04:32 |
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| fgx | speel, :-( don't know how to do install ubuntu from sarge floppy | 04:33 |
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| Dillweed | it seems that the developers of the compilers should eliminate the optimizing code, because it seems no one is taking advantage of it. | 04:33 |
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| JDahl | Dillweed, on a modern PC I find it hard to believe that optimizing those kind of packages makes a real difference, but I might be wrong... I use a lot of software for numerical analysis, and there arch optimization makes a huge difference | 04:34 |
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| speel | hey any one knows if amd athlon xp is a k7? | 04:34 |
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| ^thehatsrule^` | how much ram should i need to run a livecd? | 04:34 |
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| speel | ^thehatsrule^, i think 128 is minimum | 04:34 |
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| geneo91 | 128 min | 04:34 |
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| ^thehatsrule^` | Mem: 191664k total, 181296k used, 10368k free, 5708k buffers | 04:34 |
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| ^thehatsrule^` | cause that says i have 181mb used :< | 04:35 |
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| Dillweed | JDahl, I agree with you. I've noticed on my gentoo systems programs that were optimized for an athlon-xp in general load faster then in ubuntu. | 04:35 |
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| Dillweed | speel, i believe the athlon xp is an k7 | 04:35 |
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| speel | yea thats what i figured | 04:35 |
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| speel | hmm i wonder if its worth it to upgrade it to the k7 | 04:35 |
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| Dillweed | upgrade what? | 04:36 |
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| speel | the kernel to k7 | 04:36 |
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| Dillweed | imo it does. | 04:36 |
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| pantz | when i insert my SD card from my camera into my card reader it comes up with an icon on the desktop called 'DIMAGE' - anyone know where I go to customize the name? | 04:36 |
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| pantz | I have grepped for DIMAGE and not found it anywhere | 04:36 |
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| speel | would i have to remove the 386 then install the k7? | 04:37 |
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| Dillweed | speel, no | 04:37 |
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| pantz | speel, install k7 then remove 386 | 04:37 |
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| Dillweed | speel, when you upgrade the kernel it automatically sets it in the grub menu.lst | 04:37 |
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| speel | bah thats what i ment lol thanks | 04:37 |
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| pantz | hehe | 04:37 |
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| Dillweed | you can have both on the same system and be fine. | 04:37 |
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| JDahl | speel, or keep 386 as a backup | 04:37 |
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| Dillweed | i generally have 3-4 old kernels that I haven't deleted | 04:38 |
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| farruinn | anyone know how to create startup items for non-gnome sessions? (e.g. enlightenment or fluxbox) | 04:38 |
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| nekrataal | hi there | 04:38 |
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| speel | just down load the linux-image-2.6.8.1-5-k7 and thats it? | 04:38 |
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| Quinn_Storm | farruinn: they didn't come with sessions? on debian-based systems they should install them automatically and you'd just have to reload gdm to get them to show up in the menu | 04:39 |
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| nekrataal | one question....how do i change my screen reslution on ubuntu??, i edited the file xorg.conf adding the new resolutions i want, but even restarting X server they arent show in the Gnome reslution... | 04:39 |
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| arek | fluxbox shows up in gdm | 04:39 |
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| farruinn | Quinn_Storm: I've got sessions in /usr/share/xsessions/ but they're .desktop files, I can't just add things to it (like gnome-settings-daemon &) | 04:40 |
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| speel | hey any developers / programmers in here suggest a pretty decent for an 11th grade HS student :P ?? | 04:40 |
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| JDahl | nekrataal, system->preferences->screen resolution | 04:40 |
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| farruinn | arek: yup, I used fluxbox's file to create one for enlightenment =) | 04:40 |
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| speel | pretty decent programming lanuage** | 04:40 |
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| crimsun | speel: python, Java, C++ | 04:40 |
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| JDahl | what's decent about C++? | 04:41 |
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| speel | python .. i heard alot about it | 04:41 |
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| nekrataal | JDahl, yes, i know, but there apears only 640x480, 800x600, 1024x768.. | 04:41 |
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| speel | its is pretty straight foward to learn? | 04:41 |
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| crimsun | JDahl: it's good to be knowledgable about those three at least | 04:41 |
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| nekrataal | and i want more, that why i edited the xorg.conf...but they dont appear to work.. | 04:41 |
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| geneo91 | python rox | 04:41 |
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| fgx | nekrataal, do you have lcd? | 04:41 |
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| Quinn_Storm | nekrataal: are you sure your monitor can support the resolutions? | 04:42 |
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| ells | does anyone know if there is a quictime plugin for the internet | 04:42 |
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| geneo91 | ubuntu is python oriented | 04:42 |
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| speel | brb going to restart to my brandnew kern :) | 04:42 |
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| Quest-Master | ells: Only if you have Crossover Office which costs money | 04:42 |
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| nekrataal | yes, its best resolution is 1280x1024@110Mhz | 04:42 |
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| ells | Quest-Master: I acutally have it but not installed | 04:43 |
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| Dillweed | who can I get in contact with to see about optimizing ubuntu for a 686? | 04:43 |
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| Quest-Master | ells: Install it then and use the Quicktime plugin included :) | 04:43 |
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| ells | Quest-Master; it did not work well with hoary before | 04:43 |
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| Quest-Master | :o | 04:43 |
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| Quest-Master | Works fine for me | 04:43 |
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| ells | Quest-Master; it worked well with warty though | 04:43 |
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| ells | Quest-Master: which version do you have | 04:43 |
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| JDahl | Dillweed, first browse through the forums | 04:43 |
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| nekrataal | nobody ? | 04:44 |
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| Quest-Master | ells: 4.1 | 04:45 |
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| JDahl | nekrataal, what you're doing sounds right... maybe try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg? | 04:45 |
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| nekrataal | ok, ill take some sleep, c-ya guys | 04:45 |
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| ells | I will check and see what I have | 04:45 |
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| Dillweed | ok, thanks for the help all | 04:49 |
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| Dillweed | have a good one. | 04:49 |
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| ells | Quest-Master, I have pro4.1 | 04:49 |
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| ells | I can try it again | 04:49 |
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| Quest-Master | Ok | 04:50 |
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| ells | Quest-Master, do you have the nice interactive screen | 04:50 |
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| PlasmaPain | any one alive here ? | 04:52 |
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| HrdwrBoB | no | 04:52 |
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| HrdwrBoB | I'm undead, but I still use ubuntu | 04:53 |
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| PlasmaPain | i was strating to think all this nicks was buried | 04:53 |
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| PlasmaPain | and this was a cemitery | 04:53 |
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| Absenth | I don't suppose anyone knows off the top of their head which commands I need to run to reconfigure the nvidia kernel module. | 04:54 |
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| HrdwrBoB | you've been here for three minutes | 04:54 |
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| === Quinn_Storm is undead too...and she'll bite ya if you're not careful. |
| HrdwrBoB | Absenth: erm.. what do you mean | 04:54 |
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| Absenth | I just changed to the k7 specific kernel, and currently x won't boot with the "nvidia" driver. | 04:54 |
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| PlasmaPain | HrdwrBoB: you dont cary a shovvel bye any chance ? | 04:54 |
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| HrdwrBoB | apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) | 04:54 |
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| HrdwrBoB | should do it | 04:54 |
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| HrdwrBoB | PlasmaPain: I keep one handy | 04:55 |
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| Absenth | it's failing on the kernel module. I know on fedora I just re-ran the .run script, but I have no idea where apt puts such things. | 04:55 |
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| HrdwrBoB | Absenth: apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) | 04:55 |
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| HrdwrBoB | well, sudo apt-get [etc] | 04:56 |
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| Quinn_Storm | what if you can't find any linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) package? (I'm on hoary...have all the repositories enabled I think...maybe not...using stock kernel, uname-r is 2.6.10-5-386) | 04:56 |
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| ells | is anyone using crossover | 04:56 |
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| HrdwrBoB | Quinn_Storm: there should be a 2.6.10-5 I think, if not, revert to -4 | 04:56 |
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| PlasmaPain | any one runed ubuntu securty tests ? | 04:56 |
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| Quinn_Storm | HrdwrBoB: there doesn't appear to be any linux-restricted-modules packages, at least according to aptitude | 04:56 |
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| PlasmaPain | what is ububtu rating ? | 04:56 |
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| Quinn_Storm | HrdwrBoB: what repository are they in? I have main universe & multiverse enabled | 04:57 |
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| HrdwrBoB | main | 04:57 |
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| M_Fatih | hi all, i have a problem with management in apache.. | 04:57 |
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| LinuxJones | PlasmaPain, on distrowatch we are #1 | 04:57 |
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| ells | is anyone using crossover, just curious | 04:57 |
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| HrdwrBoB | linux-restricted-modules-2.6.10-5-386 - Non-free Linux 2.6.10 modules on 386 | 04:57 |
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| Absenth | LinuxJones, is that #1 for popularity, or for security | 04:57 |
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| Absenth | Ells, I've got Crossover running. | 04:57 |
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| PlasmaPain | #1 what ? | 04:57 |
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| Quinn_Storm | HrdwrBoB: odd indeed...let me check... deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main universe multiverse that correct? | 04:57 |
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| M_Fatih | i installed but /etc/init.d/apache2 initscript doesn't work, i'm using apache2ctl script.. :( | 04:58 |
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| ells | Absenth, is it on warty or hoary | 04:58 |
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| LinuxJones | Absenth, pop :D | 04:58 |
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| Absenth | hoary, | 04:58 |
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| HrdwrBoB | Quinn_Storm: yes | 04:58 |
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| ells | Absenth, do you have the nice graphical layout with it | 04:58 |
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| HrdwrBoB | pool/restricted/l/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.10/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.10-5-386_2.6.10.3-8_i386.deb | 04:58 |
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| Absenth | Ells, I'm also running Transgaming 4.3 | 04:58 |
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| Quinn_Storm | HrdwrBoB: well I've apt-get updated (no errors) and the package doesn't seem to be there... | 04:58 |
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| ells | Absenth, what is Transgaming | 04:58 |
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| Absenth | ells, "nice graphical layout" be more specific please. | 04:58 |
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| Quinn_Storm | ooooh, "restricted"....I need to add that repository | 04:58 |
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| sabmoc | Absenth: dont they call that cedega now? | 04:58 |
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| Absenth | ells, Transgaming = the makers of wineX also known as Cedega | 04:58 |
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| HrdwrBoB | well cedega | 04:59 |
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| HrdwrBoB | formerly known as winex | 04:59 |
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| Absenth | HrdwrBoB, Danke, for the apt-get line, worked like a charm. | 04:59 |
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| ells | Absenth, well in past with hoary, the graphical part wont come up, have to launch files thru console | 04:59 |
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| HrdwrBoB | Absenth: excellent :) | 04:59 |
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| Quinn_Storm | HrdwrBoB: I needed to add "restricted" to my repository | 04:59 |
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| HrdwrBoB | ah yes | 04:59 |
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| HrdwrBoB | of course | 04:59 |
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| HrdwrBoB | I'm a tard :) | 04:59 |
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| sabmoc | I used to run it back in the winex days, it worked pretty good for deus ex and a few others. | 04:59 |
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| ells | Absenth, are the programs listed in your applications menu | 04:59 |
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| JDahl | will either bazaar or bazaar-ng become sourceforge projects, or will development be kept inside Canonical? | 05:00 |
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| sabmoc | HrdwrBoB: dont feel bad, a lot of people are tardy. | 05:00 |
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| Absenth | ells, nope, they sure aren't | 05:00 |
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| HrdwrBoB | sabmoc: heh I take solace in the fact that lots of people are worse than me | 05:00 |
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| ells | Absenth, so how do you run your files, just curious | 05:00 |
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| Absenth | ells, I guess I haven't tried Crossover since upgrading to Hoary. | 05:00 |
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| jdub | JDahl: they won't go on sourceforge, but they're entirely public | 05:00 |
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| sabmoc | Absenth: you may have to restart gnome to get apps populating your menu list | 05:00 |
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| jdub | JDahl: don't have to be on sourceforge to be a free software project... :) | 05:00 |
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| ells | Absenth, after you install in hoary, you have to use it by going thru console. | 05:01 |
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| sabmoc | jdub: doesnt microsoft even have a few programs on sourceforge now? | 05:01 |
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| PlasmaPain | you need to be in savanah | 05:01 |
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| jdub | sabmoc: indeed. | 05:01 |
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| ells | Absenth, you have to install all your programs when you install crossover | 05:01 |
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| calc | anyone notice xorg not driving monitors as high as it used to? | 05:01 |
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| sabmoc | I seem to remember some xml app from microsoft on sourceforge | 05:01 |
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| Quinn_Storm | wow, ubuntu is third only to mandrake & fedora and its actually tied with fedora (on distrowatch)...I'm quite glad to see this | 05:01 |
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| ells | Abseth, crossover wont come up again after | 05:01 |
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| Quinn_Storm | oh, no, only almost tied | 05:01 |
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| calc | i hadn't logged out in hoary in a few weeks and now when i did its only doing 1600x1200 75 | 05:01 |
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| JDahl | jdub, are people outside Canonical involved in any of those projects? | 05:01 |
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| jdub | http://distrowatch.com/stats.php?section=popularity | 05:02 |
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| calc | and the monitor change app only shows 60hz as an option | 05:02 |
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| jdub | JDahl: absolutely | 05:02 |
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| PlasmaPain | dont you think that distrowatch ratings are being manipulated ? | 05:02 |
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| jdub | JDahl: quite a few arch hackers are contributing to baz, and martin is already receiving patches for bzr (which is very new) | 05:02 |
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| ells | Absenth, can you use any of your programs | 05:02 |
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| LinuxJones | Ubuntu is kicking ass :) | 05:02 |
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| sabmoc | jdub: hey, can you tell me what to do with my life? I need to figure it out someday. | 05:03 |
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| linux_galore | yeah Ubuntu/Kubuntu is a breath of fresh air for debianites | 05:03 |
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| sabmoc | wow, ubuntu is kicking ass | 05:03 |
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| Quinn_Storm | yeah, (k)ubuntu is pretty great | 05:03 |
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| === calc finally saw the new background image and wonders what happened to the old one |
| linux_galore | reminds me I need to burn the kubuntu live cd | 05:03 |
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| Absenth | ells, currently no, but the only program I had installed on this machine was acrobat reader. | 05:03 |
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| PlasmaPain | any one hacked ubuntu yet ? | 05:04 |
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| sabmoc | Quinn_Storm: kubuntu isnt on the list, is it considered part of ubuntu or a different distro? | 05:04 |
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| jdub | sabmoc: both | 05:04 |
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| ells | Absenth, you will have to go thru console go to the file and ./file | 05:04 |
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| linux_galore | actually I was wondering what kernel security patched the Ubuntu guys use as default | 05:04 |
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| linux_galore | patches | 05:04 |
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| sabmoc | jdub: hows that? | 05:04 |
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| Absenth | PlasmaPain, Expect Ubuntu to be on par with Debian of a similar kernel version. | 05:04 |
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| jdub | Quinn_Storm: but it's extraordinarily new | 05:04 |
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| === Quinn_Storm goes away, brb |
| calc | oh hmm actually i misread the monitor its running in 60hz mode now no wonder my eyes were buggin out | 05:05 |
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| === calc kicks xorg |
| jdub | sabmoc: it's both part of ubuntu and a different distribution | 05:05 |
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| speel | woo was i almost screwd lol i installed the k7 and restarted .. then xserver dident want to load | 05:05 |
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| calc | ah it overwrote my xorg.conf with bad values | 05:05 |
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| PlasmaPain | what kernel is in kunbutu ? | 05:05 |
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| speel | xfree86 that is | 05:06 |
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| sabmoc | so then whoever makes ubuntu actually makes two distrobutions, makes sence, i think novel makes `suse` as well as `novel desktop` | 05:06 |
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| jdub | PlasmaPain: same as ubuntu, 2.6.10 | 05:06 |
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| linux_galore | does Ubuntu use the GRSecurity and PaX kernel patches | 05:06 |
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| === calc is back at 85hz now, much better :) |
| inphlict | Hey guys | 05:06 |
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| sabmoc | and redhat makes redhat and fedora | 05:06 |
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| inphlict | I need some help | 05:06 |
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| speel | dont we all? | 05:06 |
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| inphlict | how do I install a xmms skin? | 05:06 |
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| sabmoc | i dont | 05:06 |
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| crimsun | inphlict: unzip/untar it in ~/.xmms/Skins/ | 05:07 |
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| PlasmaPain | debian makes lots of them but for difrent archs | 05:07 |
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| inphlict | thnx | 05:07 |
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| jdub | sabmoc: no, the ubuntu team develops ubuntu and the kubuntu team develops kubuntu. we share almost everything, just have different desktop focus. | 05:07 |
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| speel | inphlict, well theres a few ways .. did you ever add the extra repos? | 05:07 |
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| jdub | linux_galore: no | 05:07 |
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| sabmoc | jdub: ok that makes much more sence, do both teams work for the same company? Is it the Canonical company? (I am new to ubuntu) | 05:08 |
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| linux_galore | jdub: so Ubuntu is open for many of the new kernel hacks that are missing on the default tree | 05:08 |
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| Absenth | linux_galore, a Google for +ubuntu +GRSecurity, as well as +ubuntu +pax both show hits. | 05:08 |
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| speel | sabmoc, ubuntu is part of canonical | 05:08 |
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| calc | hmm i see a bug in the about ubuntu yelp, the main page has no desc on the left hand side | 05:08 |
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| Absenth | linux_galore, I'd assume if it's not, "default" it can be implimented. | 05:08 |
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| jdub | linux_galore: no | 05:08 |
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| inphlict | okay skins works now | 05:08 |
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| inphlict | crimsun: thanks | 05:09 |
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| crimsun | inphlict: np | 05:09 |
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| linux_galore | jdub: so you do patch the kernels | 05:09 |
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| sabmoc | speel: I dont understand now, is there a company called "Ubuntu LInux"? maybe thats the fact I am missing. | 05:09 |
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| jdub | sabmoc: canonical sponsors some of the developers, yes | 05:09 |
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| jdub | linux_galore: yes | 05:09 |
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| fgx | jdub, do you think ubuntu will have boot/install floppy in the future?afaik now you have to boot from sarge floppy. am i wrong? | 05:09 |
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| jdub | sabmoc: no, ubuntu is the distro, canonical sponsors its development | 05:09 |
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| inphlict | This is the skin http://anka.org/henrik/humanxmms/ | 05:09 |
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| linux_galore | jdub: now Im confused | 05:09 |
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| speel | sabmoc, ubunut is just a project for canocail or how ever you spell it | 05:09 |
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| speel | ubuntu* | 05:09 |
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| PlasmaPain | what canonical means ? | 05:09 |
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| jdub | fgx: unlikely | 05:09 |
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| speel | no idea lol sounds like some kinda camra | 05:09 |
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| PlasmaPain | is it religin ? | 05:10 |
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| PlasmaPain | religion ? | 05:10 |
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| speel | lol | 05:10 |
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| calc | orthodox | 05:10 |
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| === linux_galore now to boot up my laptop with kubuntu and play with kde 3.4 |
| jdub | PlasmaPain: look up canonical in your GNOME dictionary | 05:10 |
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| PlasmaPain | isnt canonical like some saint ? | 05:10 |
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| sabmoc | Ubuntu is a free community project (i think) who has some sponsored developers working on it (sponsored by Canonical). Correct? | 05:10 |
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| sysfail | anybody using win4lin???...please let me know | 05:10 |
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| Absenth | or JFGI | 05:10 |
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| PlasmaPain | i dont have gnome | 05:10 |
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| === linux_galore waits |
| jdub | sabmoc: yes | 05:10 |
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| PlasmaPain | you tell me | 05:10 |
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| mach | is there any way to install ubuntu through internet? | 05:11 |
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| mach | I don't have a cd recorder | 05:11 |
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| sabmoc | well... now that I've wraped up the mystery of the Ubuntu project, what should I do with my life now? | 05:11 |
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| calc | mach: you may be able to pxe netboot and install it, not certain | 05:12 |
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| geneo91 | mach: you could do a hd install | 05:12 |
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| PlasmaPain | whats the mystery of ubuntu ? | 05:12 |
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| Absenth | sabmoc, you should sell all your belongings, and send the proceeds to my bank account so I can hire my legions of doom, and take over the world. | 05:12 |
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| linux_galore | woohoo desktop loading | 05:12 |
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| speel | hack it with a axe | 05:12 |
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| sabmoc | PlasmaPain: dont start that again. | 05:12 |
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| linux_galore | ack need to fix the resolution | 05:12 |
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| PlasmaPain | what ? | 05:12 |
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| PlasmaPain | is it a secret ? | 05:12 |
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| sabmoc | Absenth: my wife doesnt like that idea very much. | 05:12 |
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| speel | ubuntu is a world consiprisy lol | 05:12 |
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| Absenth | sabmoc, My wife wouldn't like it if the tables were reversed, but she did laugh. | 05:13 |
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| mach | geneo91, hmm, how can I do that? some documentation anywhere? | 05:13 |
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| sabmoc | hahah | 05:13 |
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| Absenth | sabmoc, maybe we should go in together, and be joint evil overlords? | 05:13 |
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| === madstop wonders why wallpaper using gradients looks so crappy on hoary gnome |
| PlasmaPain | is ubuntu the crusareds distro ? | 05:13 |
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| speel | lol are there ever any ubuntu developers in here? | 05:13 |
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| jdub | speel: always | 05:14 |
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| geneo91 | http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ | 05:14 |
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| speel | they hide :P | 05:14 |
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| === madstop also wonders where color depth settings are buried... |
| linux_galore | ok got kubuntu up and going.............niiice | 05:14 |
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| sabmoc | Absenth: that has a nice ring to it, what are you two doing for brunch next tuesday? I'll have my evil horde call your evil horde. | 05:14 |
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| PlasmaPain | use kubuntu | 05:14 |
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| mach | calc, what's pxe? | 05:14 |
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| linux_galore | yeah kde 3.4 supports svg wallpaper now | 05:14 |
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| Absenth | sabmoc, heh. | 05:14 |
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| === linux_galore pokes the gnome developers |
| PlasmaPain | what is svg wallpaper ? | 05:15 |
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| farruinn | linux_galore: gnome doesn't? | 05:15 |
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| linux_galore | PlasmaPain: form of vector graphics | 05:15 |
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| madstop | is kubuntu always going to be called kubuntu? Seems like kind of a lazy thing to call it, and somehow unfair to the word "ubuntu". Just my opinion... | 05:15 |
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| linux_galore | farruinn: not that I can see | 05:15 |
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| PlasmaPain | so it suports animations ? | 05:15 |
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| sabmoc | But seriously folks, sabmoc needs your ideas for a career. Im even considering going into technical writing. Thats how low Im stooping. | 05:16 |
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| sirukin | ubuntuk just sounds silly. | 05:16 |
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| Absenth | sabmoc, Mmmm... as evil overlord I could lart them all... | 05:16 |
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| speel | does any one feel weird when they say the word "ubuntu" to some one new to linux? i feel like im a space alien somtimes | 05:16 |
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| sirukin | so no, kubuntu will always be kubuntu | 05:16 |
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| jdub | madstop: why? it's a rad name | 05:16 |
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| Absenth | sabmoc, where roughly in the world are ya | 05:16 |
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| linux_galore | PlasmaPain: no just single svg image files....means you dont need different wallpaper resolutions for different screen sizes....one image fits all | 05:16 |
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| sabmoc | Im Canadian, eh. | 05:16 |
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| sirukin | I only say ubuntu when I know I'm talking to someone african | 05:16 |
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| speel | lol | 05:16 |
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| calc | mach: preboot execution environment, allows you to boot off the network on x86 systems | 05:16 |
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| PlasmaPain | everything starts with a K | 05:16 |
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| mach | calc, thanks | 05:17 |
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| sirukin | which is rare, so it's usually, "This totally awesome opensource fully compliant gnu-wise distrobution of linux". | 05:17 |
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| Absenth | I was just in CanEHdia last month. I hear Alberta has a serious lack of techies. | 05:17 |
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| sirukin | yeah, it's a tongueful | 05:17 |
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| linux_galore | PlasmaPain: not always theres juk and scribus and inkscape | 05:17 |
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| madstop | Here are some nice examples of svg wallpaper-- cool how it scales -- http://www.volvoguy.net/ubuntu/ | 05:17 |
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| sabmoc | Absenth: what type of tech's? | 05:17 |
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| madstop | and with transparency! | 05:17 |
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| Absenth | sabmoc, I would guess mostly winders admin types, and desktop support types, but..... | 05:18 |
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| linux_galore | madstop: yeah someone on kde-apps has added a true transparency patch for kde to work with x.org | 05:18 |
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| PlasmaPain | do nvidia driver work in kunbutu ? | 05:18 |
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| sabmoc | madstop: nice wallpaper! | 05:18 |
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| Absenth | sabmoc, I was on vacation, so I didn't really ask too many questions. I know tech types in Calgary make a lot more then those working for same company, in the same job title, in SaskatALFDAJDFLAOVIEHJAOLJKAWE (since I can't spell it anyway) | 05:18 |
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| jdub | PlasmaPain: it's included | 05:18 |
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| PlasmaPain | the acelarated one ? | 05:19 |
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| madstop | Yeah, sabmoc, that guy's good. | 05:19 |
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| jdub | PlasmaPain: the nvidia closed source driver, yes. | 05:19 |
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| Absenth | PlasmaPain, I'm running Accellerated NVIDIA drivers on the other pc right now. Using Cedega to play WoW | 05:19 |
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| linux_galore | PlasmaPain: should do works with Ubuntu....... the nvidia driver has nothing to do with gnome or kde | 05:19 |
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| dsl874 | lo | 05:19 |
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| PlasmaPain | it has to do with xorg | 05:19 |
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| Quinn_Storm | madstop: it would be neat if the ubuntu wallpaper cycled colors somehow | 05:19 |
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| PlasmaPain | and xorg has to do with them both | 05:20 |
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| linux_galore | must say Ubuntu team did a nice job with kubuntu | 05:20 |
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| Absenth | PlasmaPain, easiest way to install it is through synaptic. however if you want to, by hand works as well. | 05:20 |
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| saber | is ubunto 4.10 based on woody or sarge? | 05:20 |
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| tehats` | um, i just tried running the livecd off my pentium, and it failed on boot! | 05:20 |
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| calc | saber: sarge | 05:20 |
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| tehats` | i thought it was compatible with 386's :/ | 05:20 |
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| tehats` | and mines a p1-166 | 05:20 |
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| saber | ok: thanks calc... I'm trying to install the qmail .deb | 05:20 |
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| linux_galore | finally a version of Debian with the latest kde desktop that doesnt look like **** | 05:21 |
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| sabmoc | Absenth: yeah, thats pretty typical. I think Linux is much bigger in eastern Canada. Too bad I live in BC though. We are a bit alienated from the rest of our country (too many damn empty provinces full of wheat fields between us and New York!) | 05:21 |
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| madstop | Isn't there some way to at least cycle wallpapers? or maybe cycle desktop colors, if using transparency? Maybe every time you log-in? | 05:21 |
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| tehats` | any help? :<< | 05:21 |
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| Absenth | PlasmaPain, acually xorg has very little to do with it. It has a LOT more to do with the Kernel, and kernel modules. I ran Warty with Nvidia-GLX, upgraded to Hoary with Nvidia-GLX, and now running a K7 specific kernel on Hoary with nvidia-GLX | 05:21 |
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| Quinn_Storm | madstop: well I know there is in kde | 05:21 |
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| PlasmaPain | knoppix looked freat too | 05:21 |
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| calc | madstop: make a script to modify the config file | 05:21 |
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| Absenth | warty = XF86-4 Hoary = Xorg. Both work fine. | 05:21 |
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| madstop | I suppose being able to have different wallpaper on different workspaces would be overkill...? | 05:21 |
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| sabmoc | Absenth: Im surprised they even know what computers are in Saskachewan. | 05:22 |
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| tehats` | any... help... ? | 05:22 |
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| PlasmaPain | i dont know nothing about that kernel stuff | 05:22 |
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| speel | dud ubuntu ever fix that issue with nvidia and hoary? | 05:22 |
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| robodex | wheeeeee compositing is fun | 05:22 |
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| Absenth | sabmoc, I was in Okotoks?? (about 30km south of Calgary) feb 12-20 | 05:22 |
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| robodex | speel: what issue? | 05:22 |
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| sabmoc | speel: Im on hoary with nvidia and have no issues. | 05:22 |
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| Absenth | speel I'm running it now, so I would say it works fine. | 05:22 |
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| tehats` | eek? | 05:22 |
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| speel | there was some issue with one of the kernels and the nvidia driver | 05:22 |
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| tehats` | no one to help a noob when its needed? :P | 05:23 |
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| linux_galore | yeah I found with the nvidia driver I had to setup a preload for the nvidia module before x tried to use it | 05:23 |
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| Absenth | tehats`, what was the question? | 05:23 |
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| tehats` | why cant the livecd boot on meh pentium 166 :P | 05:23 |
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| PlasmaPain | has any one hacked ubuntu yet ? | 05:23 |
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| sabmoc | tehats`: sometimes you have to really whine for a while until someone notices. | 05:23 |
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| Absenth | tehats`, do I really need to answer that? | 05:23 |
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| tehats` | lol ok | 05:23 |
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| Madiba | sabmoc: i can only load live cd in safemode not noemal and morning | 05:23 |
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| Quinn_Storm | tehats`: how much ram? | 05:23 |
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| Absenth | tehats`, option 1 is of course, will the 166 boot to ANY cd? | 05:24 |
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| tehats` | oh... not enough ram i guess haha | 05:24 |
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| speel | PlasmaPain, well what do you mean hacked ubuntu | 05:24 |
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| tehats` | yes, im running off DSL right now | 05:24 |
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| madstop | tehats, all I can tell you is, in my experience, the cd's need a sloooooow burn -- I've had inconsistent results booting or installing on different machines | 05:24 |
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| PlasmaPain | i mean break in to it | 05:24 |
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| robodex | you'd be hard pressed to find a 166 that'll boot a windows 95 cd... | 05:24 |
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| linux_galore | yeah Ive got a P1 166 and I have damn small linux on it......only thing thats half way decent | 05:24 |
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| tehats` | 32mb ram tho - i was gonna see if i could boot to terminal | 05:24 |
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| sabmoc | tehats`: you need to understand what a live cd is, it loads the entire operating system and the desktop into RAM. EVERYTHING. Not very good for old comps, sorry bro. | 05:24 |
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| speel | oo | 05:24 |
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| Fackamato | PlasmaPain: how do you break into a distribution? rofl | 05:25 |
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| Quinn_Storm | tehats`: you need 128+mb ram to make it work | 05:25 |
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| tehats` | everything? | 05:25 |
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| sabmoc | yup | 05:25 |
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| tehats` | i thought you could have boot options like dsl :/ | 05:25 |
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| sabmoc | thats why its called 'live' | 05:25 |
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| PlasmaPain | the same way you break in to anything | 05:25 |
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| Madiba | sabmoc: | 05:25 |
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| sabmoc | eh? | 05:25 |
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| linux_galore | tehats`: install damn small linux......works fine even on 8mb of ram | 05:25 |
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| Fackamato | PlasmaPain: you're really funny, i'm lmfao | 05:25 |
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| PlasmaPain | how the hell dhould i know | 05:25 |
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| tehats` | ah... would installing to hard drive help? | 05:25 |
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| tehats` | or would it still be bad heh | 05:26 |
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| linux_galore | tehats`: DSL even comes with a desktop | 05:26 |
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| madstop | sabmoc, wouldn't the install cd allow just the base os to be loaded, for a server on old equipment, say -- and I thought the live cd might have loading options like that too | 05:26 |
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| sabmoc | tehats`: yes it would be much better, but still it would be slow on a pentium 150 or whatever you said.. | 05:26 |
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| tehats` | well, right now im having a DNS issue - im using ip's for some reason | 05:26 |
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| tehats` | yes i know, im using dsl now ;p | 05:26 |
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| PlasmaPain | Fackamato: keep your guts in | 05:27 |
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| tehats` | but i have a inet problem that i dont know how to fix | 05:27 |
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| tehats` | so i wanted to use something else to try | 05:27 |
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| sabmoc | madstop: well I could be wrong, but I think the live cd is just for previewing what ubuntu looks and feels like, it doesnt install anything to your computer, not even if you want it to do that. | 05:27 |
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| linux_galore | tehats`: theres a beefed up version of DSL running around with XFCE setup | 05:27 |
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| tehats` | heh, i like flux ;p | 05:27 |
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| sabmoc | madstop: but the regular install disk will install a base system just as you said. nice feature. | 05:27 |
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| Madiba | sabmoc: i can only load live cd in safemode not normal and perhaps its an issue with nvidia drivers iv got geforcr 4 mx4 | 05:28 |
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| madstop | yes, sabmoc, of course you're right-- I forgot, it just creates a ram drive or whatever it's called, right? | 05:28 |
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| PlasmaPain | why not making a live cd ith install optin and lose the instaler cd ? | 05:28 |
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| linux_galore | tehats`: I use XFCE and debian on my P1 166 (48mb) works fine although "dam small" runs faster | 05:28 |
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| geneo91 | Madiba: not so | 05:28 |
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| sabmoc | Madiba: hmm.. interesting. | 05:28 |
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| madstop | PlasmaPain, I was wondering that myself... | 05:28 |
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| Madiba | geneo 91 it ask me if i want to conguire my card not working on morphix any ideas? | 05:29 |
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| linux_galore | madstop: the live CD uses the FOSS nv driver | 05:29 |
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| omniscient | hey guys. I'm using ubuntu linux and almost every latex generated dvi i try and convert to pdf comes out blank because of no fonts, do any of you know the package that I'd need to install to aquire extra fonts? or should i be asking this in the ubuntu channel? | 05:29 |
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| madstop | linux_galore, wow, xfce can do that? Do you know if xfce 4+ would also work on so little memory? | 05:29 |
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| sabmoc | Madiba: perhaps the disk is bad(?) have you tried to burn a new copy of the disk to see if that could be the problem? | 05:29 |
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| omniscient | i asked #latex but they are all dead | 05:29 |
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| tehats` | alright... bbl | 05:29 |
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| geneo91 | well mine works just fine | 05:30 |
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| tehats` | thx for the input | 05:30 |
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| Madiba | ok ill try that | 05:30 |
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| linux_galore | madstop: XFCE runs on 32mb machine fine.....I used to run xfce on a 16mb machine | 05:30 |
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| sabmoc | damn it! You killed kenn^^^ Latex!! | 05:30 |
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| Madiba | thnks guys | 05:30 |
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| Madiba | any south africans here | 05:30 |
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| omniscient | planky | 05:30 |
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| madstop | linux_galore, sorry, but I'm too inexperienced to appreciate the driver distinctions to which you're referring | 05:30 |
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| Quinn_Storm | I ran xfce on a 32mb machine for a while (k6-400 w/ 32mb since the 128mb upgrade broke, I eventually got a new 128mb sodimm) | 05:31 |
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| sabmoc | kanga is, but he is not online right now. | 05:31 |
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| Madiba | im kanga sabmoc | 05:31 |
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| sabmoc | hahaha | 05:31 |
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| sabmoc | thats funny! | 05:31 |
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| sabmoc | Hi kanga! | 05:31 |
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| az[a] zel_ubuntu | hey, other than hackign the X11 config file, is there a "proper" way of setting my monitors refresh rate properly? It's max is 75Hz atm, but I know it can do 85Hz at this resolution | 05:31 |
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| Madiba | madiba is nelson mandelas nickname and hi | 05:31 |
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| linux_galore | madstop: the nv driver isnt the official nvidia driver but I found it works fine from tnt2 -> fx5900 cards that Ive used | 05:31 |
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| madstop | linux_galore, I really liked what I saw of xfce -- have to try it again. And I'm throwing together some computer odds and ends from years ago, so I'll try it on those | 05:31 |
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| sabmoc | Madiba: is this still the same problem you had before? | 05:31 |
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| saber | how can i ask dpkg to ignore all errors when removing? | 05:32 |
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| Madiba | no got it to run the cd had to reburn as iso image worked fine no i have problem with card | 05:32 |
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| PlasmaPain | saber: use the F option | 05:32 |
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| Madiba | can i boot to it now ill checjk the opptions and get back to you | 05:33 |
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| madstop | Quinn_Storm, how well did xfce run, and what distro on the k6-400? | 05:33 |
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| sabmoc | ok | 05:33 |
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| Madiba | bbl cheers | 05:33 |
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| Quinn_Storm | madstop: it was debian, and it ran fine, but that machine had a really slow hd so swap was painfully slow, heh, but xfce itself was really just fine | 05:33 |
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| robodex | xfce runs like a charm (with compositing) on my celeron 667 :p | 05:34 |
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| saber | I cannot find anything appropriate under --force-help | 05:34 |
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| Quinn_Storm | madstop: I even did some developing for it...had a panel plugin that was a "dock" (think more nextstep-ish than macosish, that is no silly extra graphics, just a combo taskbar/app launcher) | 05:34 |
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| linux_galore | yeah XFCE is pretty small uses less than 10mb for me.....the fonts are actually a bigger problem i found lol | 05:34 |
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| speel | any one knows any good toutorials on learning python | 05:34 |
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| saber | ah i got it.. dpkg -r --force-all ssmtp | 05:34 |
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| Quinn_Storm | web browsing is the big problem on a low ram machine | 05:34 |
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| linux_galore | too many fonts = sucks up too much ram | 05:34 |
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| az[a] zel_ubuntu | how does one clear the apt cache? just rm -f /var/cache/apt/archives/* ? | 05:34 |
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| Absenth | I don't suppose anyone here has experiance with Vector linux? | 05:34 |
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| Quinn_Storm | az[a] zel_ubuntu: apt-get clean | 05:34 |
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| sabmoc | az[a] zel_ubuntu: yup | 05:35 |
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| geneo91 | speel: python org has all you need | 05:35 |
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| az[a] zel_ubuntu | Quinn_Storm, thanks | 05:35 |
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| linux_galore | Quinn_Storm: actually not I use a browser called "dillo" and another one called "surfraw" both use less than 2mb | 05:35 |
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| sabmoc | Quinn_Storm: same thing | 05:35 |
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| madstop | speaking of swap, with 512 ram, how much swap should I have if I want to try hibernation -- and does hibernation actually work for anybody? | 05:35 |
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| Quinn_Storm | linux_galore: cool, neither of them did everything I wanted unfortunately | 05:35 |
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| speel | ah ok thanks | 05:35 |
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| linux_galore | Quinn_Storm: well dillo was designed as a graphical browser for PDA's........its designed for images and text little else but the upside is a lack of advertising and really fast download speeds even on a good system | 05:36 |
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| sabmoc | madstop: of course it works, and you should always have the same amount of ram as swap, when you go into hibernate it write everything in ram to the swap, so you need enough swap so even if your ram is full it will work properly. | 05:37 |
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| madstop | speel, maybe you looked already, but you can "man python" too; don't know how extensive or helpful it is though | 05:37 |
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| sabmoc | man != tutorail | 05:37 |
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| linux_galore | Quinn_Storm: there is also minimoz.....imagine firefox but even smaller | 05:37 |
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| Absenth | how about, anyone use Slackware 10? | 05:37 |
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| sabmoc | suddenly everything is silent. | 05:38 |
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| geneo91 | i have | 05:38 |
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| Absenth | geneo91, is it possible to install a 2.6 based kernel on it? | 05:38 |
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| linux_galore | theres a really good KDE IDE for latex | 05:39 |
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| az[a] zel_ubuntu | what does it mean when "apt-get update" fails with "MD5Sum Mismatch"? Does that mean the mirror is in the process of updating or something? | 05:39 |
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| geneo91 | sure | 05:39 |
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| linux_galore | Kile thats the name | 05:39 |
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| Quinn_Storm | linux_galore: not sure...not that it matters, that box is now just a network bridge, heh | 05:39 |
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| madstop | well, I went overboard with swap, using 1 gig! (I'm a confused windows user!) I tried hibernation with hoary amd64, and things locked up afterward; I'm a little scared to try it again | 05:39 |
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| sabmoc | az[a] zel_ubuntu: no it means the package you downloaded is corrupted | 05:39 |
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| madstop | thanks sabmoc | 05:39 |
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| sabmoc | az[a] zel_ubuntu: delete that packages from your repository and download it again. | 05:39 |
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| linux_galore | http://kile.sourceforge.net | 05:40 |
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| linux_galore | I write manuals using kile....although these days I use OOo 2.0 | 05:40 |
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| alec | madstop, 1gb swap is not necessarily overboard | 05:40 |
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| sabmoc | az[a] zel_ubuntu: if it says md5sum missmatch again, then there is a problem with the package itself, maybe wait until tomorrow and redownload it.. maybe the checksum hasn't been updated or something. | 05:40 |
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| sabmoc | linux_galore: you write manuals? are you a technical writer? | 05:41 |
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| alec | madstop, http://sourcefrog.net/weblog/software/linux-kernel/swap.html | 05:41 |
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| Quinn_Storm | from what I've heard, 2x ram is the reccomended swap | 05:41 |
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| Quinn_Storm | but that could be wrong | 05:41 |
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| az[a] zel_ubuntu | sabmoc, yeah I just did an apt-get clean; and then apt-get update; again and it still does the same thing :( it's the Packages.gz file from Universe, and Sources.gz from Main on my mirror that aren't working | 05:41 |
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| linux_galore | sabmoc: no engineer but i often have to reedit manuals for Australian use | 05:41 |
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| sabmoc | I've always heard 1xRAM | 05:41 |
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| Quinn_Storm | az[a] zel_ubuntu: you could always switch to another mirror | 05:42 |
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| sabmoc | az[a] zel_ubuntu: you could try switching your servers, or maybe just wait, usually its fixed in a little while, i bet someone is just updating. | 05:43 |
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| Quinn_Storm | az[a] zel_ubuntu: I use the archive.ubuntu.org mirror and don't have troubles there right now (just checked it) | 05:43 |
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| az[a] zel_ubuntu | Quinn_Storm, nah this one is my local ISP, and doesn't cost me in downloads :) (we have download limits in australia) | 05:43 |
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| madstop | thanks alec -- one thing I wonder about; suppose I had another linux install on same machine, sharing the swap; if I hibernated, then booted to the other kernel, would having a full swap mess up the other os's startup? | 05:43 |
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| Quinn_Storm | az[a] zel_ubuntu: archive.ubuntu.com I mean...oh, ok | 05:43 |
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| sabmoc | linux_galore: Im thinking of going into technical writing and webdevelopment. | 05:43 |
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| Quinn_Storm | az[a] zel_ubuntu: then yeah they are in the process of syncing the mirror | 05:43 |
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| linux_galore | Varies I found.... for most people 256mb is fine if your handling allot of services 512 or more might be needed | 05:43 |
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| Quinn_Storm | az[a] zel_ubuntu: wait a while and it should be fixed | 05:43 |
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| sabmoc | linux_galore: ^ why I asked. | 05:43 |
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| az[a] zel_ubuntu | Quinn_Storm, cool | 05:43 |
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| alec | madstop, probaly not mess up the startup, but the swap would overwritten | 05:44 |
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| alec | madstop, I'm not a hibernate expert | 05:44 |
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| linux_galore | sabmoc: aah.. I do it because my english skills are not lacking shall we say | 05:44 |
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| sabmoc | haha | 05:44 |
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| linux_galore | sabmoc: most engineers have poor communications skills | 05:44 |
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| sabmoc | I can imagine a lot of Asian manuals | 05:44 |
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| sabmoc | that too | 05:45 |
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| linux_galore | sabmoc: yeah students who do a few years in europe learning english then go bach home to china/tw/hk then start writing manuals that no one understands lol | 05:45 |
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| madstop | that's what I thought alec, I guess it's safe for the other os, since I presume it's not accessing the swap anyway at start (given enough ram anyway). | 05:45 |
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| linux_galore | back* | 05:46 |
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| madstop | in any event, it would probably be dumb for me to try that... | 05:46 |
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| sabmoc | linux_galore: yeah definitely, but then again I would hate to write a manual in Chinese! | 05:46 |
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| linux_galore | sabmoc: wouldnt even go that route lol........too many characters plus the chinese dialects often have poor technology support so you have to swap to latin english | 05:47 |
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| az[a] zel_ubuntu | anyone got 32 bit firefox running on Ubuntu AMD64? Need to get flash player going at some stage... | 05:47 |
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| az[a] zel_ubuntu | even better, would be 32 bit Opera on Ubuntu AMD64 | 05:47 |
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| micmur | Hey everybody | 05:47 |
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| LinuxJones | hi micmur :) | 05:48 |
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| micmur | Anybody familiar with mplayer? | 05:48 |
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| micmur | Hey LinuxJones | 05:48 |
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| mass | do I file requests for new modules to be compiled for the 2.6 kernels in ubuntu in the ubuntu bug-tracker? | 05:48 |
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| linux_galore | az[a] zel_ubuntu: Opera isnt FOSS | 05:48 |
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| micmur | I installed mplayer last night but am not getting any sound | 05:48 |
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| mass | I always read FOSS as FLOSS | 05:48 |
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| az[a] zel_ubuntu | linux_galore, yeah I know... but I like it.... :/ | 05:48 |
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| Absenth | FOSS SMOSS.... | 05:49 |
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| Absenth | I just don't like Opera :) | 05:49 |
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| sabmoc | linux_galore: not to mention there are 50 dialects of Chinese, people say English is taking over the world but the alternative is a lot worse I think, not that Im for the destruction of minority subcultures, but communication with all of them is near impossible. | 05:49 |
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| mass | the support for my scsi card was merged into the kernel at 2.6.9, but it still isn't turned on for ubuntu releases, just want to one day not have to compile my own | 05:49 |
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| linux_galore | az[a] zel_ubuntu: also Opera has bugger all community support and you dont have a open plugin layer like Firefox | 05:49 |
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| mass | and accellerate that day to be sooner ;-) | 05:49 |
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| az[a] zel_ubuntu | linux_galore, opera can use the mozilla/netscape plugins | 05:50 |
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| micmur | Actually, now I'm getting sound but it's VERY choppy | 05:50 |
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| az[a] zel_ubuntu | linux_galore, oh you mean extensions? | 05:50 |
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| linux_galore | sabmoc: no spannish has the highest growth and Chinese dialects are spoken by 53% of the worlds population | 05:50 |
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| micmur | Anybody? How can I fix this? | 05:50 |
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| az[a] zel_ubuntu | linux_galore, well firefox + adblock + session saver, is very tempting and I could live with that, yeah... | 05:50 |
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| linux_galore | az[a] zel_ubuntu: yeah extensions and themes | 05:51 |
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| madstop | Computers just aren't double byte character friendly; too bad, 'cause you can pack a lot of meaning into very few Chinese characters. CJK characters work great on cell phones, I hear | 05:51 |
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| Absenth | micmur, are you using oss, | 05:51 |
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| madstop | linux_galore, I really really doubt that 53% figure. More like 25% | 05:51 |
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| micmur | esd | 05:51 |
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| mass | anyone, where do I make requests for new modules to be 'turned on' in the kernel? do I file bug reports against ubuntu or debian? | 05:51 |
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| Quinn_Storm | I like the utf-8 method myself, lets you use all the various characters you could possibly ever need...I know its a little harder to parse but it doesn't have the space limits other encodings do | 05:51 |
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| mass | or just shout here for a while ;-) | 05:52 |
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| linux_galore | az[a] zel_ubuntu: every feature on Opera now has an extension in Firefox that does the same thing.....there is even an advanced mouse gestures plugin that shows a graphical widget in the middle of the screen to help you remember what gesture you need | 05:52 |
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| micmur | Last night I installed it, but wasn't getting any sound. As an example, I was on Apple's trailers site | 05:52 |
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| sabmoc | linux_galore: I didn't know Spanish was the fasting growing, but that makes sense I suppose. Yeah, China is insane. My wife is Chinese, I was just there for holidays last month. Insane. | 05:52 |
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| Absenth | Micmur I'm using oss, I usually have to killall esd to get things like mplayer to work. | 05:52 |
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| speel | is there any tools to burn a mpg to a vcd? | 05:52 |
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| micmur | I'm getting picture and now am getting sound but it's extremely choppy | 05:52 |
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| Absenth | micmur, maybe you need to kill the oss processes? | 05:52 |
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| sysfail | i hate firefox | 05:52 |
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| Quinn_Storm | mass: it would be against ubuntu, they package their own kernels I think | 05:52 |
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| SiRrUs | mass not sure if shouting will help hoary is pretty much finished | 05:52 |
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| micmur | How do I kill OSS and what effect would that have on other programs? | 05:52 |
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| madstop | linux_galore, hunting down firefox extensions, which tend to stop working with new releases, is not my favorite use of time. Opera has a lot of great features. | 05:53 |
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| micmur | I.E. if I did that and then wanted to listen to mp3's... | 05:53 |
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| linux_galore | madstop: nope 53%....that figure was thrown out by one of the worlds leading dialect specialists he has even written a language just to be able to correctly speak any given dialect | 05:53 |
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| Absenth | micmur, That I can't help you with.... to kill esd I just "killall esd" | 05:53 |
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| madstop | very good keyboard shortcuts, for example, real fullscreen, beautiful, one key zooming | 05:53 |
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| mass | SiRrUs, I already package my own, I will switch to the next unstable tree, I just want to one day use an official packaged kernel | 05:54 |
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| sabmoc | madstop: you can use firefox extensions in Opera (I heard, havent tried it.) | 05:54 |
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| mass | makes a lot of other things easier | 05:54 |
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| micmur | Absenth: I'll try that now | 05:54 |
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| Absenth | sysfail, I've got Office 2K, lotus 6.5.2, and a few custom apps all running on cxoffice at work. cool stuff I tell you,. | 05:54 |
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| linux_galore | madstop: I have mouse zooming.......and Opera doesnt have "nuke everything" | 05:54 |
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| micmur | Still happening | 05:55 |
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| sabmoc | sysfail: why oh why? IE? W h y? | 05:55 |
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| madstop | linux_galore, I'm sorry, but this makes no sense to me. The Chinese are one-fifth of the world's population, with overseas Chinese, you can maybe bump that up to one-fourth, but not more than half speaking these "dialects" -- which often are more accurately called languages. | 05:55 |
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| sysfail | im hoping viewing cams in yahoo messenger will work under crossover | 05:55 |
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| Absenth | Micksa, I'll turn you over to some of the other experts then. | 05:55 |
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| sysfail | cause i cant view em in gaim | 05:55 |
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| linux_galore | madstop: nuke everything - extension in Firefox is great when you get pages not formated for printing you just click on everything you want removed | 05:55 |
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| madstop | Cantonese and Mandarin for example are mutually unintellible; the written language is essentially however unified | 05:55 |
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| micmur | Well that didn't work | 05:55 |
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| micmur | Anybody else have any suggestions? | 05:56 |
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| sabmoc | madstop: The Chinese population is 1.3 billion living on the mainland and 500million living outside the country. | 05:56 |
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| linux_galore | madstop: you forget many other countries are tied to the Chinese dialect | 05:56 |
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| sabmoc | earth population? | 05:56 |
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| madstop | ok, sabmoc. Like I said, not more than half the world's population! | 05:56 |
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| linux_galore | madstop: Japan for one | 05:56 |
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| SiRrUs | mass not sure what you package I was just suggesting that shouting here was not the way to go :) | 05:57 |
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| mass | SiRrUs, filed a bug in ubuntu bugzilla | 05:57 |
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| sysfail | anybody been able to view webcams in GAIM?? | 05:57 |
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| madstop | What other countries? Singapore? A city state, and Chinese is not all that's spoken there. Overseas minorities in Malaysia, Indonesia, Canada, US, etc... | 05:57 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | another question here... does ubuntu only comes with | 05:57 |
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| mass | just need modules compiled for my raid card in official packages ;-) | 05:57 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | gnome? | 05:57 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | does ubuntu only comes with gnome? | 05:58 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | that is | 05:58 |
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| linux_galore | madstop: your just counting the "100%" chinese dialects you not also counting those dialtect thats derive from one of the chinese dialects | 05:58 |
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| madstop | linux_galore, good lord, the Japanese speak Japanese. | 05:58 |
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| madstop | Not Chinese | 05:58 |
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| SiRrUs | ^thehatsrule^ thats the default | 05:58 |
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| Absenth | ^thehatsrule^, yes, the default install of ubuntu is gnome. you can get kde from synaptic, or through apt. | 05:58 |
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| linux_galore | madstop: yes study Japanese you will often see a historical reference for words back to a chinese dialect | 05:58 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | i mean, off the cd, could i get flux? | 05:59 |
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| geneo93 | kubutu also | 05:59 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | or do i have to do a hd-install? | 05:59 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | because for now, i want to run off livecd to see how i like it | 05:59 |
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| SiRrUs | ^thehatsrule^ think you will be running gnome then | 05:59 |
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| mass | there is still enough similarities to the written chinese language for chinese people in japan to sorta-kinda almost know what is going on | 06:00 |
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| mass | in written form, not spoken of course :) | 06:00 |
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| Absenth | ^thehatsrule^, Unless you grab the kubuntu distro, in which case it'll be a live cd/ with kde | 06:00 |
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| sabmoc | madstop: they use many of the same written characters (chinese and japanese). But thats about all that most chinese dialects have in common anyway, same written language. | 06:00 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | hm... you cannot change it in the ramdisk? | 06:00 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | or no one has tried ;p | 06:00 |
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| madstop | We've borrowed a helluva lot of words from French, too, linux_galore , by your reasoning we should add English to the percentage of people who speak French. Chinese, with Tibetan, occupies its own language family. Japanese is unrelated, except by borrowing. | 06:00 |
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| Absenth | ^thehatsrule^, I'd suspect you'ld have to change the distro. I don't think flux is included in the ISO. | 06:01 |
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| linux_galore | yeah but the chinese have traded and colonised all around Asian basin and exported there language and culture with it | 06:01 |
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| madstop | Anyway, this has to be insanely boring and off topic to everybody else here. Sorry | 06:01 |
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| geneo93 | ^thehatsrule^: try over on kubuntu channel | 06:01 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | no - i dont want kde | 06:01 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | heh, id like Funbuntu | 06:01 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | lol! | 06:01 |
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| linux_galore | madstop: yes english has become a bit like the mongrel dialect from hell | 06:02 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | alright - i just thought i could change it in ramdisk | 06:02 |
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| madstop | Yes, sabmoc. Writing is a whole other ballgame; complicated by the "simplification" of mainland Chinese. Different character sets for Taiwan and China now. Sucks | 06:02 |
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| sabmoc | madstop: are you from tiawan? | 06:02 |
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| geneo93 | ^thehatsrule^: there is an iso of kubuntu | 06:03 |
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| mass | obviously latin has a very large % of usage today | 06:03 |
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| mass | :) | 06:03 |
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| Absenth | to get to another off topic, but linux related subject:) | 06:03 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | oh... does kubuntu have flux? | 06:03 |
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| madstop | heh heh, no sabmoc, I'm not. But I live in Flushing New York, which is sort of a Taiwanese colony... ;-) | 06:03 |
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| linux_galore | yeah Taiwan has drifted allot........also one thing the Chinese always seem to ignore is the fact Taiwan has a aboriginal culture way before the chinese turned up | 06:03 |
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| Absenth | I was tempted to "cd /home" "rm -Rf ." today on the 9 linux servers | 06:03 |
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| Absenth | the lusers were really pissing me off. | 06:03 |
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| geneo93 | i doubt it | 06:03 |
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| sabmoc | madstop: its not such a big deal, most people i've met in china speak and can read 3 dialects. | 06:03 |
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| linux_galore | Chinese always act like they were the first to settle Taiwan but they weren't | 06:04 |
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| madstop | true, sabmoc, and linux_galore ... | 06:04 |
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| sabmoc | not to side with the evil chinese empire, but tianwan isnt even recognized as a country by the vast majority of governments today. | 06:05 |
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| madstop | In Canton, sabmoc, I saw lots of signs exorting the Cantonese to speak Mandarin. And the signs were written in pinyin (latin characters) which many folks couldn't read! | 06:05 |
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| linux_galore | China ruled Korea for a long time Im suprised they Chinese havent tried to say Korea isnt a rebel province too | 06:05 |
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| linux_galore | the* | 06:06 |
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| sabmoc | i think about 40 governments recognize Tiawan, and a lot of those are small African nations. | 06:06 |
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| madstop | sabmoc, officially, Taiwan doesn't recognize itself as a country yet, just as a province of China. | 06:06 |
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| sabmoc | linux_galore: thats because Korea is the original c | 06:06 |
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| sabmoc | original china | 06:06 |
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| madstop | good lord, we | 06:06 |
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| dr_willis | hmm.... | 06:06 |
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| madstop | 've made this the chi-buntu channel! | 06:07 |
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| dr_willis | reading this artical about fork bombs and ulimit on slashdot. | 06:07 |
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| sabmoc | lol | 06:07 |
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| linux_galore | lol | 06:07 |
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| dr_willis | what sort of defaults does ubuntu use anyway? | 06:07 |
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| sabmoc | chewbuntu | 06:07 |
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| linux_galore | dr_willis: yeah those have been around for a while | 06:07 |
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| linux_galore | dr_willis: easy fix | 06:07 |
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| mass | fork bombs sound like some sort of home-made fragmentation grenade :P | 06:07 |
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| madstop | what are fork bombs, dr_willis? | 06:07 |
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| dr_willis | ulimit says "unlimited" | 06:07 |
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| mass | *boom* (forks everywhere) | 06:08 |
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| linux_galore | just edit /etc/security/limits.conf | 06:08 |
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| sabmoc | haha | 06:08 |
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| dr_willis | madstop, a process where a normal user can basicially take down a system. | 06:08 |
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| dr_willis | linux_galore, yea - noticed theres nothing there. (its all comments) | 06:08 |
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| dr_willis | seems as paranoid as the ubuntu guys are in other areas of security - that there would be some limit allready in place. | 06:08 |
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| sabmoc | madstop: its where you get an application to fork, creating a new thread, and do that continuously until all the system resources are taken and the system grinds to a halt. | 06:08 |
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| mass | its part of a class of exploits where the operating system is either misconfigured or incapable of limiting the resources a non-priviledged user account can consume | 06:09 |
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| madstop | dr_willis, I manage to do that about every third time I use my computer... I'm not an ignorant noob, I'm a fork bomber! | 06:09 |
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| linux_galore | dr_willis: some nice howto's on the web on securing debian | 06:09 |
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| sabmoc | you forking bomber! | 06:09 |
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| dr_willis | of course the actual artical sort of rants aout it being a KERNEL security issue.. then changes its tune and says its a disrto issue.. then back to a kernel issue.. | 06:09 |
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| linux_galore | http://es.tldp.org/Presentaciones/200103hispalinux/jfs2/debiandoc/securing-debian-howto.sgml | 06:09 |
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| madstop | Ah, fork bomb -- I thought maybe it was a way for a software project to assassinate rebel developers... | 06:10 |
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| sabmoc | lol | 06:10 |
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| linux_galore | you can stop fork bombing with a process manager | 06:10 |
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| madstop | heh heh -- are there fork-bomb trojans, etc? | 06:10 |
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| dr_willis | linux_galore, looks liek that site has been slashdotted. :P or not.. it may be lagged.. | 06:10 |
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| linux_galore | dr_willis: no works fine | 06:11 |
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| Absenth | You can also stop fork bombing with threats of physical violence against the offending parties. | 06:11 |
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| mass | dr_willis, maybe it is being fork-bombed? | 06:11 |
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| dr_willis | linux_galore, well its up now.. and its showing the HTML code/source.. :P lol.. thats odd... | 06:11 |
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| madstop | you know, this reminds me, since upgrading to hoary, I haven't had to kill a process once. Didn't even bother to put an icon for that in a panel, like I did with warty. Amazing | 06:11 |
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| Absenth | the guy who runs a coloc server I have a shell on will likely run me over with his jeep a few dozen times if I were to fork bomb his box. | 06:11 |
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| mass | Absenth, chasing them with a fork seems to work well | 06:11 |
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| dr_willis | hmm its .sgml | 06:11 |
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| mass | I think all exploits should be documented in VRML | 06:12 |
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| linux_galore | http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/other-formats/pdf/Security-Quickstart-HOWTO.pdf | 06:12 |
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| sabmoc | linux_galore: its pretty hard to stop, even with `killall forkbombedapp` they just spawn so quickly, but yeah its stopable that way if you catch it in time. | 06:12 |
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| mass | "wow, this is a very BIG exploit" | 06:12 |
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| linux_galore | theres a good step by step guide on checking and fixing security issues on most Linux machines | 06:12 |
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| dr_willis | i forkbomed a server in college with batch files calling each other and sending mail :P | 06:13 |
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| dr_willis | kik | 06:13 |
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| dweaver | Hello all, I am sorry if I am just jumping in, but this is my first time on IRC. I have just installed ubuntu and am looking to find a community to discuss it. is this the right place? | 06:13 |
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| dr_willis | mass, heh - | 06:13 |
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| dr_willis | dweaver, yep. | 06:13 |
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| linux_galore | sudo netstat -tap|grep LISTEN and then sit and worry | 06:13 |
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| DarthFrog | dweaver: Welcome home. | 06:13 |
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| madstop | dweaver, it sure is | 06:13 |
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| sabmoc | hahaha | 06:13 |
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| sabmoc | sounds like fun linux_galore | 06:14 |
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| mass | dweaver, if you can sift through non-ubuntu discussions, you are home :) | 06:14 |
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| linux_galore | lol | 06:14 |
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| sabmoc | dweaver: yes this is ubuntu, now tell us what you think of tiawan? | 06:14 |
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| dweaver | thanks for the welcome. let me grab a beer and join the conversation. | 06:14 |
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| madstop | the channel hasn't been fork-bombed yet, but you never know... ;) | 06:14 |
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| linux_galore | well if someone asks a question we can answer it | 06:14 |
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| sabmoc | actually dont | 06:14 |
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| Absenth | dweaver don't listen to them, I think they are all drunk :) | 06:14 |
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| madstop | lol sabmoc | 06:15 |
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| Asycas | (i wouldn't leave a valuable can of beer on the floor) | 06:15 |
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| dr_willis | wow - i am allready getting JUNK mail at my gmail account! | 06:16 |
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| sabmoc | the funny part is I actually just found one, under some laundry | 06:16 |
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| dr_willis | and ive given the address to NO one.. | 06:16 |
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| madstop | (there might be a deposit on that can) | 06:16 |
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| Asycas | *gasps* the secret stash!!! | 06:16 |
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| mass | dr_willis: it is probably just a brute force attack | 06:16 |
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| linux_galore | dr_willis: I just converted my gmail account into a network disk lol | 06:16 |
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| sabmoc | *pop* fizz | 06:16 |
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| DarthFrog | Asycas: It might be excellent security by obscurity. A full one, hidden amongst all the empties. :-) | 06:16 |
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| linux_galore | Gmail account = 1Gb network disk.........just drag and drop file on it | 06:17 |
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| madstop | (I think I stashed some cigarettes in that can. Hope it was empty) | 06:17 |
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| Asycas | haha!! O:-) | 06:17 |
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| mass | someone should add a spork() system call | 06:17 |
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| sabmoc | linux_galore: on linux? impressive, I used that on a windows machine | 06:17 |
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| DarthFrog | someone should put beer in my fridge. :-) | 06:17 |
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| linux_galore | sabmoc: yeah been on Linux for a while | 06:17 |
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| madstop | DarthFrog, "security by obscurity" -- I like that. | 06:17 |
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| sabmoc | linux_galore: but only 10meg per attachment :( | 06:17 |
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| Square | does hoary come with a firewall with a gui config, or do I need to install one? | 06:18 |
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| sam2 | today is my birthday, wow im 19 | 06:18 |
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| madstop | be nice if I could upload my whole /home partition to gmail | 06:18 |
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| sabmoc | Square: apt-get install firestarter | 06:18 |
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| sabmoc | Square: its very similar to Zone Alarm | 06:18 |
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| linux_galore | sabmoc: heh heh in Linux there is a trick were it uses the split command to break the file up then when it comes back to the localhost it combines it again | 06:18 |
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| Square | thanx | 06:19 |
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| sabmoc | linux_galore: oh man, beautiful | 06:19 |
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| madstop | spork system call? that reminds me, is there a spork bomb too? | 06:19 |
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| dr_willis | heh 5 spam on gmail.. vs 141 on hotmail. :P | 06:19 |
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| Square | just ran a check and only like 2 ports are stealthed lol | 06:19 |
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| janc | DarthFrog : just checked the fridge & the beer is cold :) | 06:19 |
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| linux_galore | sabmoc: so no 10mb limit (not as far as the user can see but its a technical limit) | 06:20 |
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| dweaver | sabmoc: back from getting my beer. Haven't been to tiawan yet so I can't comment. I have been as far east as Moscow, though that was many years ago. | 06:20 |
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| sabmoc | DarthFrog: I thought your name was DeathFog | 06:20 |
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| madstop | Gmail makes webmail pretty damn wonderful, I must say | 06:20 |
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| sabmoc | madstop: yes it does, gmail is goodness | 06:20 |
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| === DarthFrog thinks sabmoc might have had too much beer. :-) |
| Xenguy | DarthFrog: there's no such thing as too much beer | 06:20 |
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| sabmoc | I've only had 1 i swear! | 06:20 |
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| madstop | I was in Taiwan for an hour and a half. Nice airport. | 06:21 |
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| DarthFrog | Xenguy: Speaking from long, long personal & painful experience: Yes there is. | 06:21 |
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| sabmoc | linux_galore: thats is a place I would love to visit, always wanted to go to russia | 06:21 |
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| linux_galore | sabmoc: you can use split with any file type really......I used it once for a huge xvid movie file plit it into two files and burned each fragment to a CD then what i did was copy each fragment to the hardisk then cat filename* >> newfilename | 06:21 |
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| plagerism | WTF is up with gnome-terminal in 2.10?? I lost all functionality, now all I have is a gay box, no tabs, no menus, just gay box | 06:21 |
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| janc | well, I'm drinking scotch now (hm, 6.21am, should I go get some sleep? ;) | 06:21 |
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| dr_willis | Hmm... I got Spam on "You can Be a Cop" and "Free Condoms" those are new ;P not seen that sort of spam befor - lol | 06:21 |
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| Xenguy | DarthFrog: I think the word "personal" is relevant (different strokes for different folks and all that) | 06:21 |
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| dr_willis | plagerism, vs a 'straight' box? | 06:22 |
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| madstop | janc, go ahead, but leave the bottle here, would you? | 06:22 |
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| sabmoc | madstop: I was there for 4 hours, nice but boring airport lol | 06:22 |
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| linux_galore | sabmoc: Russia is horrible | 06:22 |
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| plagerism | dr_willis, no it has no menus | 06:22 |
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| eyequeue | plagerism: please drop the homophobia | 06:22 |
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| sabmoc | linux_galore: thats what makes it so russian | 06:22 |
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| plagerism | But I just found right click, sorry it just startled me | 06:22 |
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| linux_galore | sabmoc: especially Moscow | 06:22 |
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| plagerism | eyequeue, gay has nothing to do with homophobia | 06:22 |
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| Xenguy | plagerism: what eyequeue said | 06:22 |
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| linux_galore | sabmoc: I mean horrible beyond words | 06:22 |
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| eyequeue | plagerism: two of us find it offensive | 06:23 |
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| sabmoc | linux_galore: :( its too bad communism fell | 06:23 |
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| plagerism | would you rather I call it queer?? How about odd | 06:23 |
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| madstop | I was in Japan for a couple hours too. Freakin' idiot not to have gotten a visa for at least a quick look at the country before going on to HK | 06:23 |
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| eyequeue | plagerism: i have no need to tolerate this | 06:23 |
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| sabmoc | Janc your drinking scotch at 6am? You sir are a bastard, and I salute you. | 06:23 |
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| linux_galore | sabmoc: you cant do anything unless you pay a bribe......want to fart pay a bribe.......want to cross the road without getting flattened .pay a bribe | 06:23 |
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| Mguel721 | how you all doing? | 06:24 |
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| madstop | and Anchorage was pretty cool at ten in the morning in December, looking like the middle of the night | 06:24 |
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| DarthFrog | linux_galore: Where is that? | 06:24 |
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| linux_galore | DarthFrog: moscow | 06:24 |
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| Mguel721 | can anyone help | 06:24 |
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| dweaver | Can I ask were you all are from? | 06:24 |
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| Madiba | HI ALL IM BACK | 06:24 |
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| Madiba | why does freenode ping your pc when u log on? | 06:24 |
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| DarthFrog | Mguel721: Just ask your question. If anyone can help, they will. | 06:24 |
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| alindeman | Madiba: Open proxy check | 06:25 |
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| plagerism | Anyways I fixed my situation, and I apoligize for the usage of the word gay, I mean queer, or odd or stupid, not homosexual cause how could a box be homosexual | 06:25 |
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| madstop | I'm from New York State, dweaver, and in New York City | 06:25 |
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| Madiba | alindeman : thanks | 06:25 |
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| madstop | you? | 06:25 |
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| alindeman | Madiba: np | 06:25 |
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| sabmoc | linux_galore: communism=everyone had a job, lots of pointless meaningless jobs, but at least everyone could buy food. Its sad how bad russia has become. I dont think they will ever recover. | 06:25 |
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| linux_galore | hmmm orange iMAC.....now thats gay lol | 06:26 |
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| dweaver | madstop: I used to work there. 33rd st. got transfered to ohio 15 yrs agos. | 06:26 |
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| geneo93 | dweaver: where in ohio are you | 06:26 |
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| dweaver | north of cinci right now. | 06:27 |
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| linux_galore | sabmoc: the problem is in russia they dont have the long existing culture that deals with capitalism | 06:27 |
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| geneo93 | i'm just 35 miles west of toledo | 06:27 |
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| sabmoc | linux_galore: I hate to be pessimistic, I grew up with russia as a really cool and mysterious place but I really dont think it will ever recover. Yes, thats the problem exactly. And they way they are learning to deal with it is only going to make it worse. | 06:27 |
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| madstop | membreya -- "erection reset???" | 06:27 |
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| madstop | lol | 06:27 |
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| sabmoc | erection reset?what the?!? | 06:28 |
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| dweaver | geneo93: I love the Noreth Coast. Ever heard of Pat Dailey? | 06:28 |
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| linux_galore | sabmoc: eastern Russia is great the people are nice and they still love communism and in many cases still practice it | 06:28 |
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| madstop | that's why membreya is in and out so much tonight, I guess | 06:28 |
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| geneo93 | the mayor | 06:28 |
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| dweaver | the bard of lake erie | 06:29 |
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| DarthFrog | Nothing wrong with communism in theory, other than it ignores human behaviour and tends to promote totalitarianism. | 06:29 |
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| Square | there have been very few communistic countires , russia was close but even then people in power had more then everyone else | 06:29 |
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| janc | dweaver : Bruges, Belgium :) | 06:29 |
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| linux_galore | sabmoc: in eastern russia they dont have hotels as such just drop in and say hello and they will give you a bed for the price of some news | 06:29 |
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| geneo93 | well i've heard the name before | 06:29 |
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| Absenth | there's nothing wrong with Totalitarianism, as long as I, and my Legions of Doom are the ones in charge of it. | 06:30 |
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| dweaver | janc: never been there. Good beer I've heard. | 06:30 |
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| Absenth | I think we can trust sabmoc and his horde as well. | 06:30 |
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| janc | Belgium has good beers, yes :) | 06:30 |
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| sabmoc | DarthFrog: the problem with communism is that it needs as you say, totalitarianist centralized government who put themselves outside the communist loop. I dont think you can fix communism. | 06:30 |
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| linux_galore | yeah but Belgium has very high tax's | 06:30 |
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| sabmoc | Absenth: I vote for Absenth | 06:30 |
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| madstop | and good novelists-- Georges Simenon, one of my favorites | 06:31 |
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| dweaver | geneo93:ever get to put-in-bay? | 06:31 |
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| geneo93 | dweaver: how nouth of cinci | 06:31 |
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| janc | 'high' taxes but also the 'highest' social security... | 06:31 |
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| sabmoc | linux_galore: thats very cool | 06:31 |
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| geneo93 | dweaver: oh yes the wine festival | 06:31 |
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| dweaver | geneo93:Liberty Twp - about 20 miles | 06:31 |
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| Absenth | sweet! | 06:31 |
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| Madiba | sabmoc: | 06:31 |
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| Square | in an ideal communism you wouldnt have any need for money if you needed something you would get it, but it seldom works out that way | 06:31 |
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| geneo93 | aff i've been through there many times | 06:32 |
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| sabmoc | Madiba: try running dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg | 06:32 |
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| Absenth | Under my regime, Expect many lusers to be beaten with the clue by four of destiny | 06:32 |
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| linux_galore | sabmoc: I would drop in a small village and look for a bed and often I would leave the village the next day with a pack full of food | 06:32 |
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| dweaver | geneo93: how long have you been using ubuntu? | 06:32 |
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| geneo93 | about 3 months | 06:33 |
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| Madiba | sabmoc: how do i do that? | 06:33 |
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| linux_galore | sabmoc: hear allot have has changed though lately | 06:33 |
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| linux_galore | heard allot of that has changed lately * | 06:33 |
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| sabmoc | Madiba: `dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg` run that on a command line. | 06:33 |
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| geneo93 | hoary is great | 06:33 |
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| linux_galore | dont try watch 3 channels at the same time lol | 06:34 |
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| calc | linux_galore: only 3? | 06:34 |
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| da_bon_bon | hi all | 06:34 |
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| dweaver | geneo93:any other linux before that? I started in 99 with some Red Hat Multi Boot but got away from it. I have now decided to give Uncle Bill the boot. | 06:34 |
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| DarthFrog | Hide the cheese! da_bon_bon's here! :-) | 06:34 |
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| sabmoc | linux_galore: thats too bad, but I think its only a matter of time before those pockets get absorbed by the rest of the russian culture, similar to how big chains are always trying to make inroads in small towns here in the west. Only in russia the big chains are mafia. | 06:35 |
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| geneo93 | dweaver: i started with red hat 6.2 | 06:35 |
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| sabmoc | then again, they are mafia here too, we just dont know it | 06:35 |
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| dampjam_ | I have a laptop that uses a touch pad, and I Just plugged in a usb mouse. How do I get it to work? | 06:35 |
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| geneo93 | around 1999 | 06:35 |
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| da_bon_bon | DarthFrog: :) | 06:35 |
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| dampjam_ | (preferably with the touchpad still working) | 06:35 |
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| da_bon_bon | DarthFrog: i ate all of it already :) | 06:36 |
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| DarthFrog | da_bon_bon: Oh, that's where it went. :-) | 06:36 |
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| bj_ | hello hello | 06:36 |
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| sabmoc | dampjam_: first you go to the internet, you do research, you come back when that has failed after several attempts. :) | 06:36 |
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| Madiba | sabmoc : can i run thatt from within safe mode | 06:36 |
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| dampjam_ | argh | 06:36 |
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| bj_ | When can we dist-upgrade to grumpy | 06:36 |
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| sabmoc | Madiba: I think so | 06:36 |
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| Quinn_Storm | dampjam_: make sure your xorg.conf is pointed to /dev/input/mice | 06:36 |
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| sabmoc | dampjam_: haha | 06:36 |
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| calc | bj_: probably after hoary is released | 06:37 |
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| Madiba | sabmoc ok ill try i last thing where dom i find the command line thing is it at the terminal thingy lol excuse my ignorance | 06:37 |
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| dweaver | geneo93: I have to us microsoft at work since that is what I develoe in but it is realy nice to make the move to linux at home. how do you use it? | 06:37 |
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| DarthFrog | bj_: Well, hoary hasn't even been released yet. And the release following that is Breezy Badger. | 06:37 |
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| sabmoc | I think I should go get some work done before Im too drunk to do it properly. | 06:37 |
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| dampjam_ | Quinn_storm: it is | 06:37 |
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| sabmoc | lol, that came out all wrong | 06:38 |
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| Quinn_Storm | dampjam_: not sure then, sorry | 06:38 |
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| linux_galore | sabmoc: so true | 06:38 |
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| calc | dampjam_: not according to the wiki at least | 06:38 |
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| calc | er oops wrong nickcomplete | 06:38 |
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| dweaver | Has any body had an audio problem with the latest hoary? | 06:38 |
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| sabmoc | Madiba: yes, the command line, you can call it a terminal or a shell, same thing. | 06:38 |
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| geneo93 | well i was admin a t a factory for 8 yrs with ms crap | 06:38 |
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| calc | dweaver: not me, but i haven't rebooted in a few months | 06:38 |
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| sabmoc | ok, bbl guys | 06:39 |
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| calc | dweaver: so i am still using an old kernel | 06:39 |
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| Mguel721 | Has anyone installed bluefish-1.0? | 06:39 |
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| Madiba | thank you have a drink for me its to early here lol | 06:39 |
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| sirukin | hmmm | 06:39 |
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| calc | 2.6.10-2-amd64-k8 | 06:39 |
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| geneo93 | 4 servers and 85 worksttions | 06:39 |
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| sirukin | http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/LoCoTeamHowto | 06:39 |
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| madstop | dweaver, I haven't even tried audio yet, 'cause I'm so pissed that I can't use realplayer with hoary. amd64. | 06:39 |
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| dampjam_ | Wow it works now!!!! | 06:39 |
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| sirukin | anyone started a canadian team? | 06:39 |
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| Tugg | sab a terminal is an app a shell is an interface to the os, a bit of a difference | 06:39 |
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| Square | I may try and break free of windows now that ive tried hoary+kde3.4+translucany | 06:39 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | lol... wait until longhorn.... | 06:40 |
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| geneo93 | Square: i did that in 1999 | 06:40 |
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| dampjam_ | square: just make sure you load wine so you can use ie, firefox has too many security flaws to use | 06:40 |
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| Tugg | hat: we will all be dead | 06:40 |
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| calc | with longhorn you get better graphics plus unbreakable drm for free ;) | 06:40 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | lol | 06:40 |
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| Square | lol | 06:40 |
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| Mguel721 | I tried installing bluefish-1.0 and received the following: | 06:40 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | the recommeneded processor is 4-6 ghz dual core | 06:40 |
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| Mguel721 | checking for gcc ... no | 06:40 |
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| madstop | firefox currently sucks. I'm using epiphany. Don't know if it's better or not. | 06:40 |
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| Tugg | i love firefox | 06:41 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | firefox is good - when its loaded ;p | 06:41 |
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| Mguel721 | checking for cc ... no | 06:41 |
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| Quinn_Storm | I don't know why people say firefox sucks...but then it could be personal preference | 06:41 |
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| Tugg | but in hoary some of the icons are missing | 06:41 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | Mguel721, install gcc? | 06:41 |
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| Tugg | so I DLed a new icon theme | 06:41 |
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| madstop | firefox 1.1whatever is buggy in ubuntu | 06:41 |
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| calc | Quinn_Storm: yea it works great here | 06:41 |
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| madstop | on my system anyway | 06:41 |
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| bj_ | Hoaryyyys frozen though | 06:41 |
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| Square | iv'e been useing linux off and on sence 1996 but something end up couseing me to go back to windows | 06:41 |
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| sirukin | it's that same "Personal Preferance" that causes people to diss something that works in light of there not knowing any alternatives | 06:41 |
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| calc | i have managed to make it crash once in the past couple months | 06:41 |
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| Mguel721 | how do I do that??? | 06:41 |
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| sabmoc|work | Mguel721: why are you trying to compile bluefish, it is in the apt repository. just `apt-get install bluefish` | 06:41 |
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| janc | firefox 1.0.1 misses some 'gnome-style' icons | 06:42 |
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| dweaver | My initial installl had sound although low volume. I did the update that was recommended through GNOME today and now I don't have any sound. This was why I left MS! | 06:42 |
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| geneo93 | i would not use ie if you paid me a 100 bucks a use | 06:42 |
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| janc | but the Gnome-FX theme has them right... | 06:42 |
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| sabmoc|work | Square: my problem is photoshop, its hard to break that addiction. Not that gimp isnt great, it really is awesome. I use gimp and photoshop. | 06:42 |
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| madstop | thing about windows is, there are a lot of great apps that don't (yet?) have as good alternatives in linux. At least not that are easy for a newbie like me to find and run | 06:43 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | theres no photoshop for linux? | 06:43 |
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| Tugg | no | 06:43 |
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| sabmoc|work | ^thehatsrule^: nope | 06:43 |
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| madstop | and I'm referring to free or open source stuff | 06:43 |
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| geneo93 | dweaver: you have warty or hoary | 06:43 |
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| Tugg | gimp is better thought | 06:43 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | good thing for windows is GAMES! :D | 06:43 |
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| madstop | I hate the media players in linux so far | 06:43 |
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| Square | mine was normaly games my mmorpgs, but sick of them now lol | 06:43 |
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| ^thehatsrule^ | xine is nice | 06:43 |
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| calc | totem-xine is good as well | 06:43 |
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| Tugg | cause it has 90% of the features and doesnt cost an arm a leg and a right nut | 06:43 |
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| madstop | except xine, and even there, I prefer Bsplayer in windows | 06:43 |
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| sabmoc|work | votes for totem-xine | 06:44 |
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| farruinn | madstop: imo multi-media is the linux desktop's weakest point | 06:44 |
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| calc | photoshop used to be available for solaris but not for linux | 06:44 |
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| sabmoc|work | farruinn: color management is pretty weak too | 06:44 |
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| mhandl | Does anybody knows , how to set up default sound card, when you have onboard VIA 82xx, SB Audigy + USB Logitech WebCam, I can not get a sound from it. | 06:44 |
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| madstop | I agree, farruinn. Of course, adding to the problem, with ubuntu especially, is the whole proprietary software tangle | 06:44 |
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| Mguel721 | sabmoc|work: I got this in return - E: Couldn't find package bluefish | 06:45 |
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| dweaver | geneo93: I have hoary. I've always been about the bleeding edge. | 06:45 |
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| janc | sabmoc|work : Adobe has just released their GUI-description-code as open source, so maybe that will help a linux port ;-) | 06:45 |
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| sabmoc|work | Mguel721: you need to add universe to your apt repository list. check the documentation. | 06:45 |
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| farruinn | madstop: that there is the big problem, closed formats, etc | 06:45 |
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| geneo93 | dweaver: same here | 06:45 |
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| Square | my only complaint about ubuntu is the apt repositories are a bit broken at the moment hopefully fixed soon | 06:45 |
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| Quinn_Storm | Square: mine are fine...what are you having troubles with? | 06:46 |
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| geneo93 | dweaver: used mandrake for years till i found this | 06:46 |
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| farruinn | Square: broken? ow? | 06:46 |
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| janc | http://opensource.adobe.com/ | 06:46 |
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| farruinn | or how? | 06:46 |
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| Square | kernel source for horry not in it for one | 06:46 |
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| sabmoc|work | janc yes, but as far as i've heard its is just c++ templates for gui's which is nice, but not going to give us photoshop anytime soon. | 06:46 |
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| janc | not yet, but it might help | 06:46 |
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| Pawnomatic | ubuntu rocks | 06:46 |
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| sabmoc|work | janc yes | 06:47 |
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| Mguel721 | sabmoc|work who do I view the documentation? | 06:47 |
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| Pawnomatic | just had to tell somone | 06:47 |
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| sabmoc|work | Pawnomatic: we know | 06:47 |
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| Square | and a few other packages ive tried to install complaind about missing files | 06:47 |
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| Mguel721 | where do I go | 06:47 |
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| Pawnomatic | it just makes me so happy..... haha | 06:47 |
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| Mguel721 | can u please help | 06:47 |
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| janc | OTOH, if The GIMP would use liblcms, that would help professional graphics designers too... | 06:47 |
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| sabmoc|work | Mguel721: yes | 06:47 |
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| madstop | Square, Ive had similar problems. | 06:47 |
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| sabmoc|work | Mguel721: http://ubuntuguide.org/index.html#extrarepositories | 06:47 |
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| Mguel721 | thanx | 06:48 |
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| calc | Square: i'm downloading the linux source off the mirror right now, perhaps your system is broken? | 06:48 |
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| dweaver | Yeh, that was my last distro too. In fact I was looking at loading Mandrake tonight now that my audio has quit. I just like Ubuntu too much to switch right now. | 06:48 |
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| sabmoc|work | janc I hear it does now, they finally got the message. | 06:48 |
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| sirukin | anyone canadian here? | 06:48 |
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| sabmoc|work | me, eh! | 06:48 |
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| DarthFrog | dweaver: I've been running Mandrake for years, ever since Mdk 7.0. I've decided to switch to Ubuntu. | 06:49 |
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| geneo93 | dweaver: i have cooker 10.2 on here along with slack 10.0 and suse 9.2 | 06:49 |
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| DarthFrog | sirukin: Eh? :-) I'm in BC. | 06:49 |
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| janc | well, anyone doing work for print can't do that without decent CMYK support... | 06:49 |
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| farruinn | dweaver: if the audio problem is caused by a kernel upgrade you could just boot with the older kernel... | 06:49 |
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| sabmoc|work | DarthFrog: me2 | 06:49 |
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| dweaver | DarthFrog: What made you switch? | 06:49 |
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| Square | I dont know but the source for 2.6.10 isnt listed in synaptic | 06:50 |
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| sirukin | I'd like to start a canadian local team | 06:50 |
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| sirukin | http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/LoCoTeamHowto | 06:50 |
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| geneo93 | dweaver: its not cutting edge anymore | 06:50 |
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| sirukin | strip down the hoary release, update packages, release | 06:50 |
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| sirukin | hoary preview* | 06:50 |
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| DarthFrog | dweaver: Both positive and negative features. I was getting really, really annoyed with Mandrake's update policy, that things are pretty much only available to club members. | 06:50 |
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| dweaver | geneo93: damn- don't have the horsepower to run that many distros. | 06:50 |
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| sabmoc|work | sirukin: wow, interesting | 06:51 |
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| DarthFrog | dweaver: Aside from any political issues, Ubuntu is a superb linux. | 06:51 |
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| dweaver | farrium: I am just back to linux, how hard is that? | 06:51 |
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| DarthFrog | dweaver: And politically, I really like Ubuntu's credo. I love the concept of ubuntu. | 06:51 |
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| geneo93 | oh i have 6 scsi's plus two 75 gig ides | 06:51 |
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| sabmoc|work | DarthFrog: what political issues? | 06:51 |
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| sirukin | mmm | 06:51 |
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| DarthFrog | dweaver: and lastly, Canonical, the company behind Ubuntu, is in the Isle of Man. That's where I'm from. :-) | 06:52 |
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| sirukin | ubuntu "has" it, the other distro's are aimed at the developer or bussiness workstation | 06:52 |
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| geneo93 | dweaver: this is a dualy | 06:52 |
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| DarthFrog | sabmoc|work: The Ubuntu manifesto. | 06:52 |
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| janc | 'humanity to others'? :) | 06:52 |
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| sirukin | Ubuntu is for the user, and it just simply....rocks as far as maintaining the gnu in gnu/linux | 06:52 |
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| sabmoc|work | DarthFrog: whats wrong with a manifesto? | 06:52 |
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| madstop | well put, sirukin | 06:53 |
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| dweaver | DarthFrog: Please expand on the political issue w/ Ubuntu. Being the ugly American I tend to be politiclly niave(sp) | 06:53 |
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| madstop | why do I find myself thinking that gnome has a very different mindset and attitude toward users, though? | 06:53 |
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| DarthFrog | sabmoc|work: Nothing. I'm saying that's one of the things I love about Ubuntu. | 06:54 |
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| madstop | I don't know anything about the gnome project, but a lot of their choices seem less than user-friendly | 06:54 |
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| dweaver | The guy behind Ubuntu went to space, right? | 06:54 |
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| DarthFrog | dweaver: Go to www.ubuntu.com and read it. Then come back. | 06:54 |
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| madstop | The man behind canonical went to space | 06:54 |
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| madstop | I assume ubuntu existed in some form prior to Canonical's backing, I don't know -- | 06:55 |
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| sabmoc|work | I dont think so | 06:55 |
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| DarthFrog | Mark Shuttleworth got $500 million for the sale of Thawte Consulting to Verisign. He was a space tourist. :-) | 06:55 |
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| sirukin | anyone else from canada? | 06:55 |
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| DarthFrog | madstop: Nope. Ubuntu is crunchy new. :-) | 06:55 |
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| sabmoc|work | hmmm | 06:55 |
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| sabmoc|work | kekeke | 06:55 |
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| sabmoc|work | ok, shutup all of you, i must work! | 06:56 |
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| janc | lol | 06:56 |
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| dweaver | DarthFrog: Sorry, I am not one to ask questions before reading the faq. Just been sitting here drinking and asked the question. I'll do my research. | 06:56 |
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| mhandl | sirukin: I,m from BC | 06:56 |
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| DarthFrog | sabmoc|work: Don't let us disturb you. :-) | 06:56 |
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| Square | its realy amazing how fast ubuntu has grown, last year hardly anyones heard of it, now its right up with mandrake/redhat/debian | 06:56 |
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| sirukin | yeah, get thee to work | 06:56 |
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| DarthFrog | dweaver: It's just that they explain it better than I could. | 06:56 |
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| madstop | great for debian itself, to have ubuntu drawing in so many new users | 06:57 |
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| DarthFrog | madstop: And with Ubuntu being a great desktop Debian, it also promotes the ideals of Debian. | 06:58 |
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| geneo93 | well i shyed away from debian for a long time | 06:58 |
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| dweaver | DarthFrog: OK, I justg thought you were one of those Read The Faq Stupid kind of people. | 06:58 |
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| Square | maybe debain will realse a new version soon, 3.0 getting pritty old lol | 06:58 |
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| Xenguy | (and credit to debian too, for being that 'awesome foundation' :-) | 06:58 |
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| Xenguy | DarthFrog: absolutely | 06:58 |
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| DarthFrog | dweaver: No, I'm not. If it's obvious that someone wants me to do their work for them, I can be ... difficult. :-) But if someone is asking honestly, I try to be helpful. | 06:59 |
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| geneo93 | the so called intergation of python makes it great | 06:59 |
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| dweaver | geneo93: what brought you to Ubuntu if you shyed away from debian? | 06:59 |
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| DarthFrog | geneo93: There's nothing so-called about it. Ubuntu has offered a bounty for getting greater use of Python in the wider community. | 07:00 |
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| geneo93 | well mandrake is like lost all itss good developers so whats one to do | 07:00 |
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| DarthFrog | dweaver: We were all newbies once. I try to remember that. :-) | 07:00 |
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| DarthFrog | And there still a significant part of me that holds onto the idealism of the '60's. :-) | 07:01 |
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| Square | last time I installed mandrake its f'ed up my mbr so bad I had to low level format to use hda.. never useing it again | 07:01 |
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| janc | what I like about Ubuntu : it tries to be nice to newbies without shying away experienced users | 07:01 |
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| madstop | I'm not even a programmer, and only marginally computer literate, but what little I've seen of python in use, really impresses me. I may actually try to learn it. | 07:01 |
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| dweaver | DarthFrog: I guess I am a Newbie once again. Now if we can just do that with virginity! | 07:01 |
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| jdub | DarthFrog: ubuntu is more than just "desktop" debian :) | 07:01 |
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| madstop | when I grow some more brain cells. | 07:01 |
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| DarthFrog | janc: Zigzactly! it's great for beginner and expert, alike. | 07:01 |
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| Quinn_Storm | madstop: if you can get on irc and use ubuntu you're fairly computer literate | 07:01 |
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| FlyNavy | Hello everyone | 07:02 |
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| calamari | hi | 07:02 |
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| geneo93 | DarthFrog: its something some others have been riping on me about python being slow .i just didn't say it right | 07:02 |
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| DarthFrog | jdub: How do you see it? | 07:02 |
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| dweaver | FlyNavy: What did you fly? | 07:02 |
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| Xenguy | jdub: How would you characterize Ubuntu then? | 07:02 |
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| JDahl | is there a deeper reason why Canonical is pursuing Arch instead of subversion, or is that just a matter of coincidence? | 07:02 |
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| FlyNavy | H2 Seasprite | 07:02 |
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| madstop | thank you Quinn_Storm ; unfortunately, when it comes to the programming side of things, I've never made it past "hello world!" in anything! | 07:02 |
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| DarthFrog | geneo93: If python is too slow, let them code C. :-) | 07:02 |
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| geneo93 | hey i have subversion | 07:03 |
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| jdub | DarthFrog: it kicks butt for servers too, it just happens to have a really awesome desktop | 07:03 |
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| Xenguy | jdub: I see where yer coming from | 07:03 |
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| Quinn_Storm | madstop: that I understand, not everyone's a programmer | 07:03 |
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| geneo93 | python just kills php | 07:03 |
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| DarthFrog | jdub: Not arguing against using Ubuntu for servers but why wouldn't you use regular Debian for that? | 07:03 |
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| Xenguy | DarthFrog: a fair question IMO | 07:04 |
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| jdub | DarthFrog: because ubuntu is newer, has excellent security support, etc. | 07:04 |
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| sabmoc|work | Is the server end of ubuntu substantially different from debian? | 07:04 |
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| FlyNavy | Can anyone help with display problems on install? | 07:04 |
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| jdub | DarthFrog: big difference betweeen warty and woody :) | 07:04 |
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| DarthFrog | jdub: OK, I've not investigated that. | 07:04 |
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| geneo93 | twisted and nevou | 07:04 |
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| Xenguy | jdub: well newer isn't always better :-) , and I think Debian has excellent security support really | 07:05 |
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| janc | geneo93 : 'nevow' :) | 07:05 |
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| madstop | jdub, how much influence, if any, does the ubuntu team have with the gnome developers? Is there cooperation happening there? | 07:05 |
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| jdub | Xenguy: it's very difficult to provide solid support for woody | 07:05 |
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| DarthFrog | jdub: Yeah, woody is old now. But sarge isn't. | 07:05 |
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| pinPoint | anyone with experience concerning ndiswrapper and wireless nic | 07:05 |
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| geneo93 | well i forgot how to spell | 07:05 |
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| jdub | madstop: lots of gnome people involved in ubuntu | 07:05 |
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| Xenguy | jdub: that will change RSN :-) | 07:05 |
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| jdub | madstop: i do release strategy for ubuntu, and am release manager of gnome | 07:05 |
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| janc | geneo93 : it's 'woven' spelled backwards | 07:06 |
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| sig | anyone know what package mpeg2encode comes in? | 07:06 |
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| janc | 'woven' was the predecessor of 'nevow' | 07:06 |
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| jdub | Xenguy: mmm, it's been RSN for a long time now. meanwhile, i trust the ubuntu release cycle and security team. :) | 07:06 |
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| geneo93 | lots of threads | 07:06 |
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| madstop | Ah, jdub. Great. Well, since this ain't the "gnome channel" I'll try to restrain myelf from interrogating you about gnome | 07:06 |
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| Square | woody is too old for some newer hardware | 07:06 |
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| Xenguy | jdub: hence my smiley - it's a bone of contention, for sure | 07:06 |
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| madstop | especially since I need to do my homework on it | 07:06 |
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| pinPoint | my wireless card says its active yet it never DHCP | 07:07 |
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| DarthFrog | jdub: Let's agree, then, that Ubuntu makes for a truly excellent desktop Linux. | 07:07 |
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| pinPoint | it doenst do anything | 07:07 |
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| Xenguy | DarthFrog: I'll raise my glass to that :-) | 07:07 |
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| DarthFrog | Xenguy: I just did. :-) Rum & coke. | 07:07 |
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| pinPoint | iwlist wlan0 scan returns "No Scan results" | 07:08 |
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| geneo93 | yuk | 07:08 |
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| === sirk is now known as siruki |
| pinPoint | i have the network ssid and key correct | 07:08 |
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| Xenguy | DarthFrog: beer here, er, hear hear! :-) | 07:08 |
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| siruki | hmm | 07:08 |
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| siruki | weired | 07:08 |
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| siruki | weird* | 07:08 |
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| siruki | atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e03e <keycode>' to make it known. | 07:08 |
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| Quinn_Storm | pinPoint: if you are using a non-broadcasted ssid you shouldn't be able to pick it up on scan, should you? | 07:08 |
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| siruki | x froze on that | 07:08 |
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| siruki | http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=17705 | 07:08 |
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| pinPoint | you're right | 07:08 |
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| pinPoint | so then why doesnt it work | 07:08 |
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| bryan | siruki: multimedia keyboard? | 07:08 |
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| DarthFrog | pinPoint: Can it connect with out encryption? | 07:09 |
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| pinPoint | the ssid is correct and key | 07:09 |
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| pinPoint | well im using the Network app | 07:09 |
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| madstop | jdub, any chance that gdesklets, (speaking of cool python stuff) might be integrated into gnome/ubuntu, and made easier for folks to use out of the box? | 07:09 |
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| Quinn_Storm | pinPoint: I don't know...don't know enough about wireless under linux, I'm using a win bridge machine to connect to my wireless b/c my card isn't linux supported | 07:09 |
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| pinPoint | doesnt give that much options at all | 07:09 |
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| chisno | hi | 07:09 |
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| dweaver | can someone explain in a few short words how Ubuntu is going to differ from Debian in the future? I heard on an interview that they were going to fork buthen merge changes back in, is this correect? | 07:09 |
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| sabmoc|work | hmm | 07:09 |
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| DarthFrog | pinPoint: My advice would be to turn off encryption on the router and get it working that way first. | 07:09 |
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| sabmoc|work | I thought I told you all to stop chatting and go home. | 07:10 |
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| DarthFrog | dweaver: Yes. | 07:10 |
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| madstop | I mean to say, offered with the default install, I know gdesklets are available, just tricky for a noob to use... | 07:10 |
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| pinPoint | turn it off? | 07:10 |
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| pinPoint | eek | 07:10 |
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| DarthFrog | sabmoc|work: But I'm at home, Kemo Sabe! | 07:10 |
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| sabmoc|work | DarthFrog: ok, you can stay, everybody else go home. | 07:10 |
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| dweaver | I'm home also, must be time for another beer. | 07:11 |
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| DarthFrog | pinPoint: Well, don't do any on-line banking during that time. :-) Other than that, what do you care? | 07:11 |
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| janc | hm, seems like MonoDevelop isn't really very stable yet... | 07:11 |
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| madstop | sabmoc|work, have another drink and get back to work, dammit | 07:11 |
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| jdub | madstop: doubt it | 07:11 |
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| sabmoc|work | madstop: but I only had 1 beer left and its half gone already. | 07:11 |
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| dweaver | Anybody working with Mono yet? | 07:11 |
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| pinPoint | DarthFrog: so its ok if someone enters your network at home from outside | 07:11 |
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| siruki | hmm | 07:12 |
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| siruki | sorry | 07:12 |
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| sabmoc|work | dweaver: I flirted with it for a while. The mono channel on irc.gnome.org is pretty good. | 07:12 |
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| madstop | ok jdub, how about this -- wholescale stealing of kde applets to add to the panel options in gnome? starting with the kde screenshot app -- gnome's is primitive in comparison... | 07:12 |
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| siruki | was watching the thing on history tv about the canadian snipers | 07:12 |
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| pinPoint | it doesnt work with key disabled | 07:12 |
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| DarthFrog | pinPoint: You're only talking about a short while. And if you're all that hot & bothered about it, disconnect the router from its net connection; the DHCP server will still work and you can ping the router for testing. | 07:12 |
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| dweaver | sabmoc: I just picked up a new keg today. You are welcome to stop by. | 07:13 |
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| siruki | yeah, it's a logitech access keyboard | 07:13 |
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| sabmoc|work | oh man | 07:13 |
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| siruki | any ideas? | 07:13 |
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| pinPoint | DarthFrog: not working... key is disabled | 07:13 |
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| Marble2 | okay, some stuff in my gnome setup is really messed up. my mouse doesn' | 07:13 |
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| pinPoint | pinged yahoo.com | 07:13 |
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| Marble2 | *doesn't work at the gnome login screen | 07:13 |
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| Marble2 | and some stuff pops up every time I login | 07:13 |
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| mark_ | where do you find video card settings | 07:13 |
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| Marble2 | I don't know how to make it not do that, messing with stuff in session properties does nothign | 07:13 |
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| dweaver | sabmoc: do you work with .Net? | 07:13 |
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| DarthFrog | pinPoint: OK, now you know that it wasn't your encryption setup. You have to get the basic functionality working before enabling WEP/WPA. | 07:14 |
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| sabmoc|work | "some stuff" can you be more specific? | 07:14 |
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| sabmoc|work | dweaver: no | 07:14 |
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| madstop | half the time hoary turns my touchpad off at boot. fortunately there's a button I can push to start it, on this laptop. | 07:14 |
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| Marble2 | sabmoc|work: opens a nautilus in my user home and opens session setup | 07:14 |
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| pinPoint | it installed without problems | 07:14 |
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| janc | dweaver : I need C# for evening school, so want to use it, if possible... | 07:14 |
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| pinPoint | not this again | 07:14 |
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| pinPoint | crap | 07:14 |
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| mark_ | or how do you access the settings in ubuntu | 07:14 |
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| siruki | hmm | 07:15 |
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| siruki | hmm | 07:16 |
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| geneo93 | i would like to see a complete wm built with python | 07:16 |
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| madstop | Worst annoyance in hoary so far for me is, much of the time I'm not permitted to save stuff on the desktop, or the icons get pushed half way off the screen, and some apps open partway hidden by panels | 07:16 |
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| sabmoc|work | janc having taken programming I can say that your probably going to need a windows machine, not that mono isnt awesome, it is. But chances are your going to be doing some windows.forms stuff and god knows what else and for that your probably going to have to spend more time than its worth screwing with mono. | 07:16 |
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| === DarthFrog is starting to really hate the CapsLock key. Blasted nuisance. |
| siruki | any ideas? | 07:16 |
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| siruki | gnome/xorg freezes | 07:17 |
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| dweaver | janc: I am currently developing C# on windows. I am looking into using it at home to further my knowledge. I am not encouraged with its current state but am hoeful. | 07:17 |
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| sabmoc|work | siruki have you graded everything? | 07:17 |
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| janc | sabmoc|work : we have both VB.NET & C#, and I use SharpDevelop on Windows now | 07:17 |
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| siruki | upgraded? | 07:17 |
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| siruki | I just left it downloading packages now | 07:17 |
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| janc | but for C# we don't use Windows.Forms | 07:17 |
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| dweaver | Windows.Forms is coming soon for Mono. | 07:17 |
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| madstop | sabmoc, back to work man. no more beer. you're dropping syllabes | 07:18 |
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| nicedreams | has anyone noticed a big problem with Hoary Preview 1? | 07:18 |
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| sabmoc|work | siruki make sure everything is up to date, then do `dpkg-reconfigre xserver-xorg` because if its crashing its probably not setup right. | 07:18 |
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| nicedreams | performance decrease and stuff | 07:18 |
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| sabmoc|work | madstop: lol | 07:18 |
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| siruki | mmm | 07:18 |
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| siruki | kay | 07:18 |
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| siruki | I'll try that | 07:18 |
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| dweaver | My only problem with Hoary so far is that my audio stopped working. | 07:19 |
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| nicedreams | yea..that too | 07:19 |
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| siruki | heh | 07:19 |
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| bryan | nicedreams: it's a little laggy for me, and i've got 2.8ghz P4 with 1024MB ram | 07:19 |
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| nicedreams | i installed fluxbox and sound works fine | 07:19 |
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| geneo93 | nicedreams: apt-get dist-upgrade | 07:19 |
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| nicedreams | laggy for me too | 07:19 |
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| siruki | vlc and mplayer as well as totem won't use the correct sound device | 07:19 |
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| nicedreams | geneo93: I did about 20 mins ago | 07:19 |
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| sabmoc|work | janc monodevelop is pretty nice, im not sure how it stacks vs sharpdevelop because I never got around to using sharpdevelop. | 07:19 |
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| siruki | the onboard sound card is what I want to disable, and it uses it for some things | 07:19 |
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| nicedreams | and 12 hours before that | 07:19 |
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| siruki | hmm | 07:19 |
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| bryan | well, i actually only have 768 to use, because my onboard video uses up 128MB of it | 07:20 |
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| nicedreams | sound works in fluxbox | 07:20 |
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| nicedreams | try it out | 07:20 |
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| DarthFrog | siruki: Wouldn't you disable the on-board sound card in the BIOS? | 07:20 |
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| geneo93 | everythings working fine for me | 07:20 |
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| dweaver | laggy? I'm on a 433 laptop and love it. ... OK, I switched from XP trying to do .Net development.:) | 07:20 |
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| nicedreams | geneo93: did you upgrade or install from cd preview 1? | 07:20 |
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| sabmoc|work | waddles away to work | 07:20 |
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| DarthFrog | bryan: That's way too much memory to give onboard video. 32 MB would be plenty. | 07:21 |
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| geneo93 | upgrade from warty | 07:21 |
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| janc | sharpdevelop has a gui designer & all | 07:21 |
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| nicedreams | turn off on board video and get a real video card | 07:21 |
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| bryan | DarthFrog: i shouldn't need more then 512 to for everything to run smoothly | 07:21 |
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| dweaver | janc: what is sharpdeveolp? | 07:21 |
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| siruki | DarthFrog: I am using windows, and it needs the onboard sound or it produces artefacts | 07:21 |
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| Quinn_Storm | dweaver: its a very nice IDE for doing .NET development for windows...not sure if its available for other platforms | 07:22 |
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| bryan | lets just say, XP is atleast 30% faster in response times compared to Hoary | 07:22 |
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| janc | dweaver : open source IDE for .NET on Windows | 07:22 |
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| nicedreams | siruki upgrade your windows drivers | 07:22 |
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| === sabmoc|work thinks the wave of the future is pascal, it will drive all those .Net and Java developers out of business. |
| nicedreams | siruki, wait, you get artifacts with it on? | 07:22 |
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| === sabmoc|work will finally be useful |
| DarthFrog | bryan: Perhaps. But Linux uses RAM very efficiently. You're depriving it of RAM that it could otherwise use for buffers/cache. | 07:22 |
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| nicedreams | siruki, err off i mian | 07:22 |
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| nicedreams | mean | 07:22 |
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| dweaver | So stick with Mono on Linux? | 07:22 |
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| === DarthFrog wants some of what sabmoc|work is smoking. :-) |
| sabmoc|work | dweaver: if your on linux, mono is your best option | 07:23 |
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| sabmoc|work | lol @ DarthFrog | 07:23 |
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| bryan | DarthFrog: right now with bittorrent downloading @ 400kB/s and 4 tabs of firefox open + xchat ahd GAIM i'm only using up 250MB | 07:23 |
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| janc | sabmoc|work : after using BASIC on my ZX Spectrum & then GW Basic, I've used Turbo Pascal a lot :-) | 07:23 |
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| DarthFrog | bryan: Your call. | 07:23 |
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| janc | hm, I should check FreePascal on Ubuntu... | 07:24 |
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| Square | I miss C64 basic ;) | 07:24 |
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| dweaver | Am on Linux at home now, had enough and just loaded Ubuntu over XP. Still on windows at work but have to work with VS.Net there. | 07:24 |
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| bryan | that still leaves 650mb to either be cached or sit unused | 07:24 |
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| geneo93 | hey i have two chat client gong getting updates and watching tv | 07:24 |
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| sabmoc|work | janc: nice, did you know the man who invented turbo pascal is head of the C# development team | 07:24 |
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| DarthFrog | bryan: It won't sit unused. :-) | 07:24 |
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| dweaver | FreePascal? Anything like PowerBuilder? | 07:25 |
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| janc | sabmoc|work : he invented Delphi, not Turbo Pascal | 07:25 |
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| sabmoc|work | janc ah my bad | 07:25 |
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| sabmoc|work | same thing :P | 07:25 |
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| bryan | I'm probably going to end up splurging on a nice new video card and motherboard | 07:25 |
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| janc | dweaver : FreePascal is an Object Pascal compiler | 07:25 |
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| === DarthFrog is going AFK for bit. Gonna take my dog for a walk. BBIAB. |
| siruki | hmmm | 07:26 |
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| sabmoc|work | dont forget to scoop | 07:26 |
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| janc | Lazarus is an open source RAD tool like Delphi | 07:26 |
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| dweaver | Isn't PowerBuilder based on Pascal? | 07:26 |
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| siruki | bryan: we share a name | 07:26 |
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| === siruki smirks |
| janc | which uses FreePascal | 07:26 |
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| geneo93 | bryan: get a quad xeon | 07:26 |
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| janc | i've never used PowerBuilder | 07:26 |
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| bryan | no need for that | 07:26 |
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| sabmoc|work | geneo93: no, get a dual amd64 with pci-express and an nvidia-quadro card, ooooOOooooo..... | 07:26 |
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| === sabmoc|work drools |
| bryan | i'd rather wait for dual core chips | 07:27 |
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| linux_galore | always try gambas or "realbasic" | 07:27 |
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| janc | http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/ | 07:27 |
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| geneo93 | not me i shy away from amd | 07:27 |
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| madstop | I'm loving amd64 so far, but I'm no expert. | 07:27 |
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| bryan | i've never had an AMD, but the FX series looks tempting | 07:27 |
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| zenrox | geneo93, 2 irc clients both open on 2 different macines all on one montor | 07:28 |
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| sabmoc|work | dualcore opterons will own all your bases! | 07:28 |
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| zenrox | bbl | 07:28 |
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| linux_galore | wtf -f gambas|grep -i "http//": | 07:28 |
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| sabmoc|work | zmog!! | 07:28 |
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| bryan | but i'll stick my with P4 for now, 2.8ghz should last me a while | 07:28 |
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| dweaver | I know while I was getting a beer something was said about Python, but I have to ask a question. Is Python something an MS Developer should try to learn if switching to Linux or would you recomend something else? | 07:28 |
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| geneo93 | bryan: i'd like to have one of those dual mini itx jobs | 07:28 |
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| membreya | bryan: getting a bit dated :P | 07:28 |
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| Square | silly question perhaps but does linux on amd 64 support running 32 bit apps | 07:28 |
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| bryan | membreya: hardly | 07:29 |
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| linux_galore | wtf -f gambas|grep -i http:: | 07:29 |
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| linux_galore | http://gambas.sourceforge.net/ | 07:29 |
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| membreya | Square: it does, but you have to chroot it | 07:29 |
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| Square | k | 07:29 |
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| bryan | 2.8ghz P4 still beats any 32bit athlon | 07:29 |
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| membreya | my bad bryan .. i think my amd64 3200 is dated | 07:29 |
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| janc | dweaver : every developer should learn python | 07:29 |
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| janc | windows, linux, macosx, whatever | 07:29 |
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| bryan | i've been trying some python | 07:29 |
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| ells | does anyone know why gtkpod wont import mp4s | 07:29 |
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| bryan | it's pretty easy | 07:29 |
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| dweaver | janc: Python can develop GUI apps, right? | 07:30 |
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| sabmoc|work | dweaver: its not so much how many languages you learn, its more how well you solve difficult problems and for that you need to be very good at what you do which needs focus. Also, onces you've mastered a language and solve very difficult problems with it, it is easy to pick up another one. | 07:30 |
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| linux_galore | ells: mp3's ? | 07:30 |
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| geneo93 | dweaver: yes | 07:30 |
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| ells | no, mp4 | 07:30 |
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| janc | you can write everything you wish in python | 07:30 |
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| dampjam | Any suggestions on getting 3d acceleration to work with xorg? I have te 82852/855GM Intel integrated graphics | 07:30 |
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| ells | you know aac files | 07:30 |
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| linux_galore | ells: mp4 is video | 07:30 |
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| ells | AAC files | 07:31 |
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| janc | there is even an OS-kernel written in Python ;-) | 07:31 |
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| madstop | I think gdesklets are python, and zope and plone are, aren't they? | 07:31 |
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| Square | learning a language is easy, applying that knolage to something useful is the hard part | 07:31 |
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| ells | linux_galore, I am certain that mp4 is audio, apple | 07:31 |
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| janc | zope & plone are python, yes | 07:31 |
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| bryan | arn't mp4's what you download from itunes | 07:31 |
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| ells | linux_galore, ipod | 07:31 |
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| ells | gtkpod wont import them | 07:31 |
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| ells | linux_galore, they will only take mp3 | 07:32 |
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| ells | linux_galore, no AAC files, why | 07:32 |
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| sabmoc|work | dweaver: just learn html | 07:32 |
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| bryan | sabmoc|work: XHTML! | 07:32 |
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| janc | xhtml 2.0 ? :) | 07:33 |
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| sabmoc|work | no wait.. XDHAFLKFSHDHTML!! | 07:33 |
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| madstop | wtf | 07:33 |
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| bryan | how about XSGML | 07:33 |
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| madstop | my keyboard is flaking out on me... | 07:33 |
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| sabmoc|work | how about xul? | 07:33 |
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| geneo93 | just learn python and you dont need all that silly shit | 07:33 |
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| janc | my first bug report ever was for the xhtml 2 spec, and that's still not released :) | 07:34 |
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| ells | anyone know why the gtkpod wont import the mp4 from the ipod | 07:34 |
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| tsaphah | why is ubuntu set to use a pre 1.0 version of firefox? Is it not possible to get a newer version without compiling my own? | 07:35 |
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| linux_galore | oops | 07:35 |
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| linux_galore | could be you dont have hfs support | 07:35 |
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| siimo | tsaphah ? | 07:35 |
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| Quinn_Storm | tsaphah: if you've updated your system you should have the most recent version | 07:35 |
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| linux_galore | time to go | 07:36 |
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| janc | warty has an older version of Firefox | 07:36 |
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| dweaver | Sabmoc: yes, I know that. I have been developing for almost 20 years now and have seen many people that judge themselves by the languages that they know. I am just looking to start developing on an OS that I like rather than one that I am forced to and was curious as to what I should look into. I know that most development on linux is done in c but I am not that anal. If there is an easy tool I'll use it. | 07:36 |
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| tsaphah | hrm .. I'll try the apt stuff again. | 07:36 |
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| siimo | hi, can someone please tell me how to change my system so that httpd will not start at bootup and i can start it whenever i want by /etc/init.d/httpd start | 07:36 |
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| geneo93 | dweaver: try qt designer | 07:37 |
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| dweaver | Does anyone here have any experience syncing an Axim to GNOME? | 07:37 |
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| tsaphah | ah, I see the problem. Source list is only set for security and archive :P | 07:37 |
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| bryan | ewww | 07:38 |
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| dweaver | geneo93: Is that language independent or does it rely on a specific language? | 07:38 |
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| bryan | qt sucks | 07:38 |
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| geneo93 | tsaphah: tick then all the update | 07:38 |
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| janc | tsaphah : the warty release doesn't have FF 1.0 yet | 07:38 |
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| sabmoc|work | dweaver: Alright, sorry. Its nice to see experienced people moving to Linux! So many experienced windows admins or hackers are so set in there ways and afraid of Linux (I think because they have no real skils and have gotten by mostly by fooling there non-techy bosses). Anyway, yeah python is good. I judge a language by how many real applications are written in that language, python passes that test. | 07:38 |
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| bryan | if you want easy GUI design for stuff like python and c/c++ use glade | 07:38 |
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| geneo93 | c c++ | 07:38 |
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| nomasteryoda | tsaphah, my list on http://mgalug.org/books/suse (Update it!) has a nice apt sources.list | 07:38 |
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| dweaver | bryan: what do you recommend? | 07:39 |
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| tsaphah | janc: ah, that would explain things. | 07:39 |
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| nomasteryoda | i now have kde 3.4 | 07:39 |
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| tsaphah | nomasteryoda: I'll talk a look. Thanks for the pointer | 07:39 |
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| janc | warty has FF 0.9x + security fixes | 07:39 |
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| nomasteryoda | yup | 07:39 |
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| janc | hoary has 1.0.1 now | 07:39 |
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| pinPoint | ifup wlan0 hangs | 07:40 |
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| pinPoint | in console | 07:40 |
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| tsaphah | Does ubuntu handle switching the source files from warty to hoary without breaking too much? | 07:40 |
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| sabmoc|work | siimo: `sudo chmod -x /etc/init.d/httpd` | 07:40 |
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| nomasteryoda | it does now | 07:40 |
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| geneo93 | tsaphah: no | 07:41 |
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| nomasteryoda | tsaphah, sorry about that link... it was for suse channel | 07:41 |
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| sabmoc|work | tsaphah: I did it, and nothing borked on me. | 07:41 |
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| nomasteryoda | oops | 07:41 |
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| siimo | sabmoc|work, but then i cant run the script manually? | 07:41 |
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| nomasteryoda | tired | 07:41 |
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| tsaphah | nomasteryoda: I was wondering :P | 07:41 |
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| sabmoc|work | siimo: hmm true, never thought of that. | 07:41 |
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| tsaphah | sbmoc|work: k, I might give it a try. I've upgraded debian and suse systems that way without a problem, but you never now. | 07:42 |
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| geneo93 | tsaphah: just go the whole thing | 07:42 |
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| tsaphah | *nods* thanks folks | 07:43 |
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| geneo93 | tsaphah: just change repositories to hoary | 07:43 |
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| jdub | did everyone hear about the mascot competition? | 07:43 |
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| nomasteryoda | been fighting enabling wifi here at Novell community meeting in Utah | 07:43 |
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| dweaver | samboc: I have been around longer than I would like to admit. I actually started with Linux because of a client I had back in '98 althought that was just an admin role. Now I find myself looking to branch out career wise and don't think COBOL is a strong point on my resume. :) | 07:43 |
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| sabmoc|work | siimo: update-rc.d is your friend | 07:43 |
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| jdub | http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2005-March/000020.html | 07:43 |
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| janc | dweaver : many big companies still use COBOL :) | 07:43 |
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| sabmoc|work | dweaver: lol | 07:44 |
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| dweaver | I will never go back to the Green Screen. | 07:44 |
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| nomasteryoda | lol | 07:44 |
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| janc | banks & the like | 07:44 |
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| sabmoc|work | siimo: do `man update-rc.d` that is how to take apps out of the init system so they wont start at boot properly. | 07:44 |
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| ginger_ | can i trouble anyone with a question about sound and a Via VT82C686? | 07:44 |
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| madstop | folks, I'd love to hear anyone's opinions on best first language for a total non-programmer to try to learn? | 07:45 |
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| j-rock | madstop: python | 07:45 |
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| janc | madstop : python | 07:45 |
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| janc | :) | 07:45 |
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| j-rock | madstop: tons of documentation | 07:45 |
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| j-rock | madstop: just remember that you are going to HAVE to read the docs, its not an instant understanding | 07:45 |
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| madstop | thanks! | 07:45 |
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| sabmoc|work | madstop: html and javascript | 07:45 |
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| Square | shell scripting | 07:45 |
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| j-rock | heh, i've always hated html | 07:46 |
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| sabmoc|work | html is meant to be hated | 07:46 |
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| jdub | madstop: do you want to learn how to be a programmer, or do you just want to do stuff? | 07:46 |
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| madstop | The tutorials for python seem excellent -- Square, you mean like perl, ? is that shell scripting? | 07:46 |
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| Square | perl or just bash scripting | 07:46 |
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| dweaver | madstop: I have been looking at Python and really like it. I don't think that a novice would have problems with the tutorial although I have been twiddling bits for a very long time and may be full of shit. | 07:47 |
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| madstop | jdub, I'd like to know enough to alter the behaviour of open source apps I enjoy using | 07:47 |
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| membreya | learn c :) | 07:47 |
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| madstop | maybe develop simple programs for educational software | 07:47 |
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| jdub | madstop: to a huge extent, that means learning C | 07:48 |
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| dweaver | c? isn't that in the Smithsonian? | 07:48 |
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| membreya | :P | 07:48 |
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| sabmoc|work | jdub: cool, I think i'll fireup the old pixelatron and see what I can do! :) | 07:48 |
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| thr1ce | anyone know where the system beep is in KDE ? | 07:48 |
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| jdub | madstop: but you can learn "on the job" - it's worth getting your hands dirty and seeing what happens :) | 07:48 |
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| sabmoc|work | ah the pixelatron9000.. my old friend | 07:48 |
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| madstop | as it happens, jdub, I have been dragging a C textbook around with me (and one of my favorite wiki apps is written in c...) | 07:49 |
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| dweaver | Anybody need a beer? I'm going. | 07:49 |
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| ells | anyone know what must be done so I can import my m4a files from my ipod to gtkpod | 07:49 |
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| tsaphah | madstop: I agree with what's been said. C & C++ - if you want down and dirty programming and mess with a lot of Open Source apps. Can't go wrong with Python or Perl though. | 07:49 |
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| sabmoc|work | madstop: wiki written in C? which one? | 07:49 |
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| sirukin | h | 07:49 |
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| sirukin | ha | 07:49 |
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| madstop | that's something that seems nice about python; the programs seem very literate and helpfully written, easy to follow | 07:50 |
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| sabmoc|work | madstop: dont forget to learn assembly | 07:50 |
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| farruinn | heheh | 07:50 |
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| tsaphah | *chuckles* | 07:50 |
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| janc | madstop : that's right | 07:51 |
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| madstop | WxWikiserver -- a "personal wiki" thing. Excellent. I've heard it runs with wine, haven't tried it, sabmoc|work | 07:51 |
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| ells | anyone know what must be done so I can import my m4a files from my ipod to gtkpod | 07:51 |
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| madstop | assembly, sabmoc|work -- jesus! don't mess with the noob's head, ok? lol | 07:51 |
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| geneo93 | ells: ubuntu wiki | 07:51 |
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| ells | geneo93, is there one about it on the site | 07:52 |
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| dweaver | What the hell, I just decided to get you all a round. I just poored it in my scanner, hope you enjoy it. | 07:52 |
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| geneo93 | prolly | 07:52 |
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| DarthFrog | re | 07:52 |
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| membreya | thanks dweaver :) | 07:52 |
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| sabmoc|work | madstop: even though they laughed I was serious. assembly is great and it will help you to understand what is ACTUALLY going on inside the cpu. Im not saying you need to write apps in it for a living, but spend a month with an assembly book at least once in your life. Trust me. | 07:52 |
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| dweaver | janc: probably not as good as your beer, its Canadian. | 07:53 |
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| geneo93 | dweaver: hope thats full bodied beer not much for lite beers | 07:53 |
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| sabmoc|work | mmmm beer... | 07:53 |
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| membreya | has to be stellar dweaver :) | 07:53 |
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| madstop | like I said, I've never made it past "hello world!" in anything yet, so who knows... | 07:53 |
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| membreya | stella even :| | 07:53 |
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| tsaphah | madstop: I'd agree with sabmoc, its nice to look at the assembly your compiler gernerates and have a clue what's being done :) | 07:53 |
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| geneo93 | dweaver: i like labatts blue | 07:54 |
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| membreya | i have like 28 bottles of wine here, but gf won't let me drink :( | 07:54 |
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| DarthFrog | membreya: You need a new gf. | 07:54 |
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| sabmoc|work | madstop: spend a month on assembly, you'll be glad you did, but maybe wait until you understand more than just the basics of programming. | 07:54 |
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| membreya | lol DarthFrog ..she has a point.. i tend to binge and spew blood :| | 07:54 |
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| dweaver | geneo93: while I brew my own and prefer good ales, we keep Molson Canadian on tap to please the wife and neighbors. | 07:54 |
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| tsaphah | madstop: I prefer C++ myself, but that's just becuase its what I do most of my work in. | 07:54 |
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| janc | dweaver : I hope your scanner enjoys it :) | 07:54 |
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| sabmoc|work | membreya: omg! | 07:54 |
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| sabmoc|work | zmog!!! | 07:55 |
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| DarthFrog | membreya: Um, yes. She does have a point. Slow down, man! | 07:55 |
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| geneo93 | dweaver: thats good beer | 07:55 |
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| membreya | i drink to get blitzed :) | 07:55 |
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| sabmoc|work | teh zmog! | 07:55 |
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| madstop | thanks for the advice guys! heh, I notice nobody has said anything about java --- ;) | 07:55 |
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| dweaver | membreya: if you aren't going to drink them, I will take very good care of them. | 07:55 |
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| DarthFrog | membreya: That's a bad road to go down, my man. Seriously. | 07:55 |
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| janc | sabmoc|work : might be better to learn 8080 assembler or something like that though | 07:55 |
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| geneo93 | dweaver: i'm retired so i cant afford much | 07:56 |
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| janc | maybe 8086 assmebler | 07:56 |
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| membreya | dweaver: ..they're mostly whites so I have to drink them in the next year | 07:56 |
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| sabmoc|work | janc its been a while :) | 07:56 |
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| janc | but not the mess of x86/MMX/MMX2/SSE/SSE2/etc./etc./etc. | 07:56 |
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| janc | :) | 07:56 |
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| dweaver | membreya: don'rt we all. it is just that some of us want it to taste better along the way. | 07:56 |
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| tsaphah | Anyone by chance know of a good doc on getting Toshiba's laptop controls to work? I'd really like to turn down the monitor brightness. | 07:56 |
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| membreya | dweaver: :P | 07:57 |
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| membreya | I only drink about 3 or 4 bottles at a time :( | 07:57 |
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| geneo93 | tsaphah: just move the thing | 07:57 |
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| sabmoc|work | tsaphah: have you googled? | 07:58 |
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| madstop | membreya, I hope your liver is as patient as your gf must be... | 07:58 |
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| dweaver | tsaphah: I just put Ubuntu on my toshiba and would like to know the same. I have problems with brightness and audio. | 07:58 |
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| janc | 7h58 now... :) | 07:59 |
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| membreya | im more patient with her madstop ....she broke my nose once so I gave her a cuddle :P | 07:59 |
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| janc | bye :) | 07:59 |
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| DarthFrog | janc: where are you/ | 07:59 |
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| DarthFrog | ? | 07:59 |
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| janc | bruges, belgium | 07:59 |
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| DarthFrog | janc: Ooh, you have good beer! :-) | 07:59 |
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| janc | yeah :) | 07:59 |
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| dampjam | When I try to add: kernel-headers-2.6-686 I got the error: Depends: kernel-headers-2.6.8-2-686 but it is not installable | 07:59 |
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| dweaver | DarthFrog: Are you in the states? | 08:00 |
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| DarthFrog | dweaver: No, British Columbia | 08:00 |
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| membreya | DarthFrog: ...they export their crap beer to the rest of the world (stella) ...their domestic beer rules over anything I've ever drunk | 08:00 |
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| madstop | ouch membreya -- I've heard of crying in your beer, but, bleeding in your wine? ouuuuch | 08:00 |
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| DarthFrog | membreya: Oh, there's many other Belgian beers besides Stella that I can buy here. | 08:00 |
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| dweaver | DarthFrog: Well then, I raise my Molson Canadian to you. :) | 08:00 |
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| tsaphah | sabmoc: yeah, its been touch and go on fighting anything useful. Tidbits hear and there but nothing to get me closer to my goal. | 08:01 |
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| DarthFrog | dweaver: yech! Molson's. Putrid stuff. | 08:01 |
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| janc | DarthFrog : any good Belgien beers available there? | 08:01 |
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| membreya | DarthFrog: lucky :( | 08:01 |
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| tsaphah | lol fighting = finding.. darn war movies in my brain | 08:01 |
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| sirukin | zeedo, boo. | 08:01 |
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| madstop | Best beer, Mexican, Negra Modelo. forget about Corona. | 08:01 |
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| membreya | belgium make the best beer in the world | 08:01 |
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| madstop | Moosehead! | 08:01 |
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| DarthFrog | janc: Well, the few I've had, I'be liked. Unfortunately, I have diabetes so can't be as ... dedicated as I'd otherwise like to be. :-) | 08:01 |
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| geneo93 | san migal | 08:02 |
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| ut | hey | 08:02 |
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| janc | aw, too bad :-/ | 08:02 |
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| dweaver | DarthFrog: Down here in the lower 48 it is the best keg I can get without a mortgage. | 08:02 |
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| pinPoint | why wont my nic work | 08:02 |
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| sirukin | hmm | 08:02 |
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| membreya | hehe dweaver :P | 08:02 |
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| DarthFrog | dweaver: Hmm. Anchor Steam is pretty good. And the microbrews can be excellent. | 08:03 |
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| janc | i'm going to West-Vleteren abbey this or next month :) | 08:03 |
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| DarthFrog | pinPoint: What chipset does it have? | 08:03 |
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| membreya | dweaver: blame your government, excises suck >:( | 08:03 |
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| pinPoint | Broadcom | 08:03 |
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| janc | http://www.sintsixtus.be/ | 08:03 |
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| DarthFrog | pinPoint: And you are using ndiswrapper to load the Windows driver? | 08:04 |
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| pinPoint | ya | 08:04 |
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| janc | trapist ales only available at the monastery :) | 08:04 |
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| dweaver | DarthFrog: You are correct my friend, Anchor Steam is one of my favorites. I just couldn't afford a keg of it even with your dollars. :) | 08:04 |
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| DarthFrog | pinPoint: You've checked that with lsmod? | 08:04 |
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| pinPoint | lsmod? | 08:04 |
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| DarthFrog | dweaver: Too bad. :-( | 08:04 |
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| pinPoint | that wasnt mentioned at ubuntu site | 08:04 |
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| DarthFrog | janc: That's a good thing. Gets you out of the house. :-) | 08:05 |
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| dweaver | janc: I thought you were leaving | 08:05 |
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| DarthFrog | pinPoint: Open a root terminal and run lsmod. | 08:05 |
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| janc | dweaver : right, I should be :) | 08:05 |
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| DarthFrog | pinPoint: It'll tell you what kernel modules are loaded. | 08:05 |
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| DarthFrog | pinPoint: We're now in troubleshooting mode. | 08:05 |
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| geneo93 | dweaver: noone leave when talking about the esentuals of life | 08:06 |
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| dweaver | janc: its Saturday morning there, right? | 08:06 |
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| pinPoint | DarthFrog: ndiswrapper is | 08:06 |
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| DarthFrog | pinPoint: You're rolling up your sleeves and looking under the covers. :-) | 08:06 |
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| janc | dweaver : yes | 08:06 |
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| membreya | geneo93: had a few to drink yourself there? | 08:06 |
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| DarthFrog | pinPoint: Good stuff. Now run ifconfig. | 08:06 |
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| janc | you guys should all come to FOSDEM in 2006 ;-) | 08:07 |
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| DarthFrog | pinPoint: What interfaces are given? Besides lo. | 08:07 |
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| sirukin | hmm | 08:07 |
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| pinPoint | eth0 sit0 wlan0 | 08:07 |
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| DarthFrog | janc: Got a spare bedroom? :-) | 08:07 |
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| geneo93 | ahh a few | 08:07 |
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| dizzie | Morning all :) | 08:07 |
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| janc | they have trappist ales for 2 euros there :) | 08:07 |
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| dweaver | janc: You gat a room? | 08:07 |
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| DarthFrog | pinPoint: wlan0 is your wireless NIC. | 08:07 |
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| girl | hi | 08:07 |
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| DarthFrog | pinPoint: Does wlan0 have an IP address? | 08:07 |
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| sirukin | what an original nickname | 08:07 |
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| === sirukin smirks |
| DarthFrog | Hi girl | 08:07 |
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| membreya | lol sirukin | 08:07 |
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| dweaver | hi girl | 08:08 |
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| geneo93 | virginian moonshine | 08:08 |
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| sirukin | rofl | 08:08 |
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| pinPoint | DarthFrog its ipv6 | 08:08 |
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| janc | not really a room, but like a friend of me says: you can always sleep under a bridge ;-) | 08:08 |
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| sirukin | that's the terminal next to mine | 08:08 |
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| pinPoint | inte6 addr alone | 08:08 |
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| sirukin | wtf | 08:08 |
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| sirukin | /nick <name> | 08:08 |
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| DarthFrog | pinPoint: run "dhclient wlan0" and then check ifconfig again to see if wlan0 picked up an IP address. | 08:08 |
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| sirukin | sorry, my brother messing around | 08:08 |
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| dweaver | does the bridge have a feather matress? | 08:09 |
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| membreya | sirukin: you're startin to scare me | 08:09 |
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| === girl is now known as brandon |
| janc | and debian develoeprs can always sleep at mind.be headquarters I'm told | 08:09 |
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| === brandon is now known as brans5 |
| brans5 | hmm | 08:09 |
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| DarthFrog | What is FOSDEM? | 08:09 |
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| sirukin | ok | 08:09 |
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| janc | fosdem.org | 08:09 |
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| janc | free/open source meeting | 08:10 |
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| dweaver | I knew a girl known as brandon once, it was a painful operation. | 08:10 |
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| sirukin | the system next to me is the one I setup for my sisters | 08:10 |
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| sirukin | and my brother is using it | 08:10 |
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| janc | in Brussels | 08:10 |
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| sirukin | so blech | 08:10 |
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| sabmoc | bah | 08:10 |
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| FlyNavy | Anyone help with display problem. Just loaded ubuntu and GUI is messed up. Didn't happen in Suse or Redhat. | 08:10 |
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| pinS | DarthFrog, there http://rafb.net/paste/results/IBIMZL72.html | 08:10 |
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| sirukin | FlyNavy, what's the problem? | 08:10 |
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| brans5 | hi | 08:11 |
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| pinS | the error from dhclient | 08:11 |
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| FlyNavy | When I boot into gui, screen has vertical splits and mouse disappears in sections and reappears on other side. | 08:11 |
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| dweaver | FlyNavy: how do you know what the answer will be if your display is hosed? | 08:11 |
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| membreya | FlyNavy: what video card? | 08:11 |
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| DarthFrog | pinS: You have disabled encryption on the router? you're not doing MAC address filtering? | 08:11 |
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| pinS | mac filtering yest | 08:12 |
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| pinS | yes* | 08:12 |
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| FlyNavy | Rage mobility | 08:12 |
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| DarthFrog | pinS: Turn off MAC address filtering and try again. | 08:12 |
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| janc | so now I'm really going to sleep til noon :) | 08:12 |
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| FlyNavy | dweaver: didn't get that. | 08:12 |
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| sirukin | just updated hoary | 08:12 |
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| DarthFrog | janc: Catch ya on the flip side. | 08:12 |
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| FlyNavy | membreya: Rage Mobility 3 or 4. can't remember | 08:13 |
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| sirukin | hmm | 08:13 |
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| FlyNavy | This is an older Dell laptop. | 08:14 |
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| sirukin | anyone interested in creating a Canadian Ubuntu Local Community Team | 08:14 |
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| DarthFrog | sirukin: yes, but not tonight. :-) | 08:14 |
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| sirukin | yeah, I'm just checking if anyone else would | 08:14 |
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| brans5 | ASP | 08:14 |
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| === sirukin throws a sock at DarthFrog |
| membreya | sirukin: ask the inuits and fur seals :) | 08:15 |
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| sirukin | haha | 08:15 |
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| membreya | don't tell the polar bears though, they'll get all pissy | 08:15 |
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| asdqwe | Hey, can anyone point me to a good wlan howto? My card is working and detected, I just need a howto for wlan config (changing essid/mode/DHCP..etc) | 08:15 |
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| geneo93 | dont forget the bears | 08:15 |
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| sirukin | hmm | 08:15 |
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| sirukin | haha | 08:15 |
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| geneo93 | black bears | 08:15 |
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| dweaver | FlyNavy: sorry, bad humor. I was responding to the fact that you had a display problem and wouldn't be able to see the answer. | 08:15 |
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| pinS | DarthFrog, same thing | 08:15 |
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| DarthFrog | asdqwe: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/ might have what you want for Ubuntu. | 08:15 |
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| DarthFrog | pinS: Nuisance. | 08:16 |
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| pinS | ? | 08:16 |
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| FlyNavy | dweaver: I'm reverting to my ms box for this. | 08:16 |
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| DarthFrog | pinS: I'm at a loss, sorry. | 08:16 |
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| asdqwe | I havent noticed any wireless relevant stuff on ubuntuguide... | 08:16 |
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| DarthFrog | asdqwe: man iwconfig | 08:16 |
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| dweaver | FlyNavy: Sorry you had to do that. | 08:16 |
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| FlyNavy | dweaver: Guess it's too late for my humor. 2am here | 08:17 |
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| dweaver | FlyNavy: 2am here also | 08:17 |
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| geneo93 | pinS: reboot that thing once | 08:17 |
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| pinS | reboot? | 08:17 |
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| membreya | 6.15pm here | 08:17 |
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| DarthFrog | pinS: Unplug it and plug it back in a minute. | 08:18 |
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| dweaver | membreya: where? | 08:18 |
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| pinS | its a minipci | 08:18 |
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| membreya | melb, aus | 08:18 |
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| DarthFrog | pinS: Mind you, that's grasping at straws. | 08:18 |
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| dweaver | g'day | 08:18 |
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| membreya | :P | 08:18 |
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| pinS | ? | 08:18 |
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| DarthFrog | pinS: Rebooting the router as geneo93 suggested. | 08:18 |
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| DarthFrog | pinS: Wireless works in Windows? | 08:19 |
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| brans5 | hi | 08:19 |
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| membreya | where abouts are you located dweaver ? | 08:19 |
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| pinS | DarthFrog, ya | 08:19 |
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| dweaver | membreya:I always wanted to vist, do you still require a criminal record? :) | 08:19 |
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| DarthFrog | pinS: Well, that's encouraging. | 08:19 |
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| DarthFrog | dweaver: LOL! | 08:20 |
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| geneo93 | DarthFrog: i was thinking it has its own addy twice | 08:20 |
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| DarthFrog | geneo93: It was a good suggestion. | 08:20 |
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| membreya | dweaver: ...requirements have changed, no longer need to be a criminal, you need to be a boatperson :| | 08:20 |
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| membreya | friggin illegals | 08:20 |
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| dweaver | membreya: for the moment I am just north of Cincinnati,OH,USA. | 08:21 |
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| brans5 | s u b | 08:21 |
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| FlyNavy | dweaver: I'm from West Virginia | 08:21 |
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| === DarthFrog notes that Cincinnati is not close to an ocean. |
| membreya | wheat country eh dweaver ? | 08:21 |
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| dweaver | membreya: the cubans make it all the way to you? | 08:22 |
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| membreya | no, just the afghan's, indon's, iraqi | 08:22 |
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| membreya | s | 08:22 |
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| membreya | africans...bloody | 08:22 |
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| geneo93 | FlyNavy: i'll be in virginia next month | 08:22 |
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| membreya | cuban's would make a nice change :) | 08:22 |
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| sirukin | hmm | 08:22 |
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| DarthFrog | OK, folks. Let's stop with the racism, please. | 08:22 |
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| === madstop tries not to note the irony of a country founded by deported criminals complaining about illegals |
| FlyNavy | dweaver: I haven't been back there in several years. Move around a lot. | 08:22 |
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| dweaver | FlyNavy: are you an academy grad? | 08:22 |
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| === madstop doesn't succeed |
| membreya | my family came over legitimately :P | 08:23 |
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| FlyNavy | dweaver: yeah. 1986 | 08:23 |
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| sirukin | to where? | 08:23 |
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| sirukin | canada? | 08:23 |
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| sirukin | ha | 08:23 |
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| madstop | fucking legals! ;-) | 08:23 |
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| pinS | here we go again | 08:23 |
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| brans5 | ha | 08:23 |
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| === pinS testing |
| sirukin | heh | 08:23 |
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| geneo93 | 98% of america is illegals | 08:24 |
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| membreya | :P | 08:24 |
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| pinS | key is off, ssid broadcast is on | 08:24 |
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| sirukin | anyway | 08:24 |
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| pinS | and still nothing | 08:24 |
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| sirukin | low signal? | 08:24 |
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| dweaver | FlyNavy: No Way, My best friend from high school was an '87. He is now a Commander teaching Mathmatics back at Anappolis. Art Cimiluca | 08:24 |
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| madstop | None of the pilgrims' papers were in order; the indians didn't have their homeland security shit in order | 08:24 |
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| pinS | nope | 08:25 |
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| pinS | im next to the router | 08:25 |
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| pinS | iwlist wlan0 scan picks it up | 08:25 |
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| pinS | so why the hell wont it connect | 08:25 |
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| pinS | shit! | 08:25 |
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| FlyNavy | dweaver: I am in New Orleans at the SPAWAR command doing XO bit. | 08:25 |
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| DarthFrog | pinS: Try "dhclient wlan0" again. | 08:25 |
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| DarthFrog | FlyNavy: SPAWAR? | 08:26 |
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| brans5 | hi | 08:26 |
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| brans5 | hi | 08:26 |
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| brans5 | hi | 08:26 |
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| brans5 | hi' | 08:26 |
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| FlyNavy | dweaver: Space and Naval Warfare. We build the comm and IT stuff. | 08:26 |
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| madstop | hi, all four of you | 08:26 |
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| geneo93 | pinS: i had to reboot this machine to get mine working | 08:26 |
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| membreya | ooo | 08:26 |
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| === membreya makes a mental note to kidnap FlyNavy |
| FlyNavy | brans5: Hi | 08:27 |
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| pinS | geneo93, hope that works, this would be the 3rd time now | 08:27 |
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| pinS | brb | 08:27 |
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| brans5 | hi | 08:27 |
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| Anubis | # apt-get update | 08:27 |
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| Anubis | E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) | 08:27 |
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| Anubis | E: Unable to lock the list directory | 08:27 |
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| membreya | Anubis: close synaptic | 08:27 |
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| Anubis | its not open? | 08:28 |
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| === John_M [~johnm@cpe-24-160-74-199.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu |
| virtuald | you have another instance of apt running | 08:28 |
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| madstop | membreya, dude, don't even joke about kidnapping us military personnel! Rumsfeld might be reading this | 08:28 |
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| sirukin | haha | 08:28 |
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| pinPoint | here we go | 08:28 |
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| === virtuald kidnaps madstop |
| dweaver | membreya: Just curious, when does the footy season run? | 08:29 |
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| FlyNavy | Interesting! | 08:29 |
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| madstop | oh oh, here comes a spike in the intel chatter | 08:29 |
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| membreya | dweaver: ..mention "footy" in my presence again and I'll slap you | 08:29 |
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| virtuald | give me $100000 or i will cut madstops throat! | 08:29 |
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| zenrox | hello madstop | 08:29 |
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| dweaver | membreya:? | 08:29 |
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| madstop | virtuald, I'm worth about 20 cents... hello zenrox | 08:29 |
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| membreya | virtuald: ...no ransom, just extort secrets | 08:29 |
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| zenrox | lol | 08:30 |
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| virtuald | :) | 08:30 |
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| membreya | dweaver: .. i hate football, I grew up in a country town and I was a nerd | 08:30 |
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| membreya | hence a target | 08:30 |
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| pinPoint | geneo93: it takes a long time to get it up on boot up | 08:30 |
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| pinPoint | like 1min 30secs | 08:30 |
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| pinPoint | before it says OK | 08:30 |
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| zenrox | membreya, join the club | 08:30 |
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| geneo93 | mine to i have 6 scsi's to spin up | 08:30 |
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| madstop | whoa, oh shit-- heh heh, when I wrote "us military peronnel" I meant US military, not us as in first person plural; I have not served, and am too old to be drafted... | 08:31 |
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| === zenrox coulfs |
| madstop | or kidnapped | 08:31 |
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| === MyNameIsChris [~Christoph@cwpp-p-144-139-3-17.prem.tmns.net.au] has joined #ubuntu |
| zenrox | lol | 08:31 |
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| phxguy | hello... Can someone here help me get my bluetooth keyboard working??? | 08:31 |
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| zenrox | the mil dont want me too afraid ill take over | 08:31 |
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| dweaver | membreya:sorry to touch a nerve. I watch Aussie Football on cable and really enjoy it. I was a nerd in high school but found rugby whern I got to college. | 08:32 |
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| FlyNavy | dweaver: No ideas on the display problem? | 08:32 |
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| virtuald | madstop: you're never too old to be kidnapped | 08:32 |
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| sabmoc | phxguy: no, you need to find the #ubuntu-bluetooth-keyboard-userhelp-friendly channel. | 08:32 |
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| phxguy | yeah apparently so | 08:32 |
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| sabmoc | its pretty hard to find | 08:32 |
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| sirukin | hmm | 08:32 |
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| pinPoint | ping returns Destination Host Unreachable | 08:33 |
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| === pinPoint arrrg! |
| sabmoc | in the mean time I suggest google phxguy | 08:33 |
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| zenrox | sabmoc, is thare one for enabling the logitech enctiption on the keyboard | 08:33 |
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| sirukin | interesting | 08:33 |
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| dweaver | FlyNavy: nothing on the display problem. still working on my audio problem. I think it is a Hoary problem. Life on the bleeding edge! | 08:33 |
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| phxguy | it did work for a little bit when i first installed ubuntu but it quit qworking | 08:33 |
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| sabmoc | zenrox: yes that one | 08:33 |
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| madstop | especially when you'rre plastered | 08:33 |
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| zenrox | not blue tooth | 08:33 |
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| zenrox | reguler wireless | 08:33 |
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| madstop | fuck, I missed about 12 lines there... | 08:33 |
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| brans5 | fuck you allyou fat fucking bitch madstop | 08:34 |
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| sabmoc | lol | 08:34 |
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| madstop | at least he got all that on one line this time | 08:34 |
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| madstop | whoa, why single me out? | 08:34 |
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| sabmoc | brans5: you're lucky Im not a mod or I would mail you testicles to your mother. | 08:34 |
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| phxguy | lol | 08:35 |
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| fonsken | how can i mount an usb-memory-stick? | 08:35 |
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| FlyNavy | madstop: He must like the way you type | 08:35 |
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| sabmoc | jdub: ping | 08:35 |
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| madstop | Well, I hope bran's other 4 don't show up | 08:35 |
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| FlyNavy | madstop: would just be 4 more lines...oh, we saw that already | 08:36 |
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| brans5 | fuck you bitch | 08:36 |
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| === pinPoint FUDGE!!! |
| madstop | sabmoc becomes sabmod the testicle mailer | 08:36 |
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| pinPoint | Network APP says eth0 is not active | 08:36 |
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| sabmoc | brans5: I hope you enjoy your brief stay on #ubuntu, it will be your last. | 08:36 |
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| brans5 | fuck you | 08:36 |
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| brans5 | fuck youm | 08:36 |
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| pinPoint | that shit just stabbed me on the back and when i did ping yahoo.com it work | 08:36 |
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| brans5 | fuck you | 08:36 |
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| pinPoint | wokred* | 08:36 |
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| dweaver | I don't know if I can stay here with this language. | 08:36 |
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| brans5 | fuck you | 08:36 |
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| brans5 | fuck you | 08:37 |
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| pinPoint | i pulled the wire and the ping stalled | 08:37 |
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| sabmoc | crimsun: ping | 08:37 |
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| FlyNavy | dweaver: Sure makes the screen scroll faster. | 08:37 |
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| pinPoint | that sucks | 08:37 |
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| dweaver | Wait a minute, I forgot who the fuck I am. | 08:37 |
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| geneo93 | some children are a pain in the ass | 08:37 |
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| dweaver | all children are a pain in the ass, its heredity. | 08:38 |
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| madstop | hmm, some day this brans5 bot may pass the Turing test | 08:38 |
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| geneo93 | pinPoint: what does network-admin do for you | 08:38 |
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| zenrox | ya so ducks | 08:38 |
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| pinPoint | why does ubuntu apps give false information | 08:38 |
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| zenrox | so duck | 08:38 |
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| pinPoint | it sucks because | 08:38 |
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| pinPoint | one app says eth0 is inactive yet when i do ping yahoo.com it works | 08:38 |
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| dweaver | ubuntu apps give me the truth | 08:38 |
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| pinPoint | so i think its my wireless nic working | 08:38 |
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| pinPoint | but it turns out its the eth0 | 08:38 |
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| pinPoint | that is so sad | 08:39 |
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| dweaver | membreya: are you back? | 08:39 |
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| CraZy675 | I have a ubuntu live cd here, would i be able to access my ntfs partition with it? | 08:39 |
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| sabmoc | CraZy675: yup | 08:39 |
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| FlyNavy | dweaver: She forgot that she had to kidnap me! | 08:39 |
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| sabmoc | CraZy675: read, but no write | 08:40 |
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| dweaver | She kidnapped you from Melbourne? | 08:40 |
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| pinPoint | why does my nic bring me so much pain | 08:40 |
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| CraZy675 | hell works for me | 08:40 |
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| pinPoint | i feel like destroying things now | 08:40 |
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| FlyNavy | membreya: Sorry. He. | 08:40 |
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| madstop | ransom just went up a notch. | 08:41 |
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| membreya | yes i am :) | 08:41 |
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| FlyNavy | I understand :) | 08:41 |
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| dweaver | See, I hate this stuff, membreya, are you a he or ahe | 08:41 |
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| membreya | HE :) | 08:41 |
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| sirukin | hmm | 08:41 |
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| madstop | (you can escape, FlyNavy, when he's off to get another wine or to placate his gf) | 08:41 |
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| FlyNavy | madstop: Roger that. | 08:42 |
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| dweaver | wait a minut, nobody is a ahe, i mean't she | 08:42 |
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| geneo93 | heshe | 08:42 |
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| === pinPoint cries, can anyone help me |
| madstop | membreya is the one with the busted nose. Actually, his girlfriend is the one you need to watch out for. | 08:42 |
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| membreya | :) | 08:43 |
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| FlyNavy | pinpoint: I was heading down the wireless trail but can't get into the gui. Sorry | 08:43 |
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| sabmoc | modstop wakeup | 08:43 |
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| membreya | hooray, I finally found out how to enable DMA on my DVD-RW :D | 08:43 |
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| dweaver | geneo93, i've heard of them, but don't know if they exist in the wild. | 08:43 |
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| sabmoc | madstop: wakeup ;p | 08:43 |
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| madstop | btw, what do Brit pilots say for "Roger that" ? doesn't roger mean something else over there? | 08:43 |
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| FlyNavy | dweaver: Try Naples. They're everywhere. | 08:43 |
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| FlyNavy | madstop: Don't know . Never flew with them. | 08:44 |
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| dweaver | ah, yes, i saw that post, sorry membreya iI am new to all this irc stuff. | 08:44 |
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| brans5 | you dick | 08:44 |
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| madstop | sabmoc, start drinking and get back to work | 08:44 |
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| fonsken | how can i mount an usb-memory-stick? | 08:44 |
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| brans5 | jlk | 08:45 |
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| brans5 | ,,jk | 08:45 |
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| brans5 | -09785 | 08:45 |
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| pinPoint | YES YES YES!!! | 08:45 |
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| pinPoint | my niC WORKS! | 08:45 |
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| geneo93 | well i'm off to bed l8rs all | 08:45 |
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| brans5 | !@#$%^&*()FHJrfbk.jbfkfhgfkjfhn m,.shnljdshb j.dvbljksbfougeuytgldkvuyjhglihkuybuybybvbbouybvukvkutvyukvtjkhv hkgvk\ | 08:45 |
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| madstop | all right pinPoint, way to go | 08:45 |
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| pinPoint | i did map wlan0 in /etc/network/interfaces | 08:45 |
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| pinPoint | and rebooted | 08:45 |
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| madstop | g'night geneo93 | 08:45 |
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| FlyNavy | now all we need to do is get rid of brans 1 through 4!!! | 08:46 |
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| madstop | must be a script to block anyone who issues like 8 fuck yous in a row... | 08:47 |
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| dweaver | membreya: excuse my ignorance, but is it evening or morning down there? | 08:47 |
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| sabmoc | lets just play it safe and get rid of Brans* | 08:47 |
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| membreya | evening...6.47 post meridian :) | 08:47 |
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| FlyNavy | do these channels have mods? | 08:47 |
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| membreya | we're gmt +11 | 08:47 |
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| Rene_S | I give up, the no menu editing in gnome 2.10 isnt worth the hassle ... | 08:48 |
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| dweaver | membreya: I used to work with someone in Sydney, just couldn't remember the time diff. | 08:48 |
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| madstop | sabmoc is the mod, when he's not shitfaced. I'm drafting him. (I assume him, after membreya's sex change, I just don't know anymore, <sobs>) | 08:49 |
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| sabmoc | Rene_S: what do you mean? | 08:49 |
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| sabmoc | lol | 08:49 |
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| membreya | what the?! | 08:49 |
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| membreya | lol :) | 08:49 |
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| sabmoc | madstop: I've had half a beer, common | 08:49 |
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| FlyNavy | wasn't me this time! | 08:49 |
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| membreya | how the hell could you assume I'm a chick :| | 08:49 |
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| madstop | sabmoc, I know what Rene_S means. I hate that I can't edit the gd menus. | 08:49 |
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| membreya | no wonder you were so nice to me | 08:49 |
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| === membreya sobs |
| Rene_S | half the programs I installed dont show up on any menu at all, the ones that do end up with no icons | 08:49 |
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| sabmoc | to be honest I havnet even noticed I couldnt edit the menus yet, its just not something I need to do. | 08:50 |
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| membreya | Rene_S: with the no icon thing, you just need to restart GDM :) | 08:50 |
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| membreya | and you CAN add items to the menu :) | 08:50 |
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| CraZy675 | where can i find a "how to" to access my ntfs? | 08:50 |
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| madstop | FlyNavy must have had a girl in a port somewhere named membreya | 08:50 |
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| pinPoint | madstop: it doesnt like keys and ssid hidden | 08:50 |
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| membreya | just removing them or moving them is a bit more work | 08:50 |
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| pinPoint | sucks | 08:50 |
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| membreya | CraZy675: http://www.ubuntuguide.org | 08:50 |
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| CraZy675 | membreya, thanks | 08:50 |
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| membreya | heh madstop :) | 08:50 |
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| sabmoc | CraZy675: `sudo mkdir /windows; mount -t ntfs /dev/hda /windows;` that should work I think. | 08:51 |
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| Rene_S | guess I am gonna have a bunch of drawers and desktop icons for a bit | 08:51 |
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| DarthFrog | CraZy675: Do you know which device is your NTFS partition (i.e. /dev/hda?) | 08:51 |
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| membreya | sabmoc: how ...messy | 08:51 |
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| tsaphah | .. ok, I just updated my system to Hoary and my resolution got changed to 640 X 480 ! :( I also had to use a differnt compikernel, the new default didn't work... | 08:51 |
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| sabmoc | Rene_S: panel icons are better | 08:51 |
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| dweaver | I just followed along, looking back I can't understand how I thought membreya might be feminine, it is obviously a guy name. | 08:51 |
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| tsaphah | wow, sorry for typing errors. Can't see what I'm typing due to resolution | 08:51 |
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| madstop | or maybe FlyNavy just thought it was a girl, I don't know, don't ask, don't tell... | 08:51 |
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| membreya | dweaver: do a whois on me | 08:52 |
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| DarthFrog | sabmoc: No, it won't work. You didn't specifiy a partition on hda. | 08:52 |
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| sabmoc | membreya: well he could edit his fstab but I didnt want to go into that. | 08:52 |
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| membreya | gawd, doesn't anyone take stalking seriously these days | 08:52 |
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| sabmoc | yes, listen to DarthFrog | 08:52 |
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| membreya | sabmoc: i was referring to mounting it off the rootfs :) | 08:52 |
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| Rene_S | sabmoc, probably but i dont want the wife clicking on them hehe | 08:52 |
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| FlyNavy | membreya: Only if you're stalking my firewall | 08:52 |
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| madstop | this is how I spend a Friday night, saturday morning; jesus, I'm not even a techie! pour me a single malt, somebody. | 08:52 |
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| sabmoc | Rene_S: do what I do, lock the screen when your not sitting at the computer | 08:52 |
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| pinPoint | ok my nic doesnt like keys and ssid hidden | 08:52 |
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| Rene_S | oh well i am sure its only a temporary thing | 08:53 |
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| sabmoc | membreya: well I used suse too long I guess | 08:53 |
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| membreya | madstop: ... I'm a heathen with single malt whisky, I mix it with coke :| | 08:53 |
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| dweaver | membreya: It is sad to say that after all my years in technology I am not aware of such things. I'll try it. | 08:53 |
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| === DarthFrog disowns membreya. |
| sabmoc | membreya: GAH!! | 08:53 |
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| membreya | sabmoc: either mount it in /media or /mnt.../media is my personal preference :) | 08:53 |
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| membreya | 12 year old glenfiddich ...and I mix it | 08:53 |
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| FlyNavy | sounds like you all need some good old fashioned moonshine | 08:53 |
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| FlyNavy | straight | 08:54 |
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| CraZy675 | what is the root password for the live cd? | 08:54 |
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| sabmoc | membreya: how do you even know what your drinking when you mix it with that garbage? | 08:54 |
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| DarthFrog | membreya: Why aren't you buying the cheapest shit available if you're going to pollute it? | 08:54 |
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| madstop | omg, membreya, that's insane!! | 08:54 |
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| membreya | cos it tastes nice :) cheap shit still tastes like cheap shit when you mix it | 08:54 |
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| madstop | The Balvenie, great single malt | 08:54 |
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| dweaver | membreya: I will beat you to a bloody pulp if I ever get to Melbourne and find you mixing single malt. | 08:54 |
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| sabmoc | haha | 08:54 |
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| === DarthFrog will be with dweaveron that journey! |
| madstop | ditto that, dweaver | 08:54 |
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| CraZy675 | Does anyone know the root password for the live cd? | 08:55 |
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| madstop | Know wonder his gf broke his nose | 08:55 |
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| === sabmoc DarthFrog and dweaver plan a trip to Melbourne to jump membreya |
| FlyNavy | new to IRC. How do you place the messages in purple? | 08:55 |
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| DarthFrog | sabmoc: No, not to jump him. To drink his single malt before he wastes any more! | 08:55 |
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| membreya | CraZy675: have you tried typing just "sudo" | 08:55 |
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| dweaver | Ah, use sudo? at least that is what you use after instal | 08:55 |
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| === sabmoc doesnt let madstop come |
| membreya | :P | 08:56 |
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| madstop | FlyNavy, can yu call in an air strike on Melbourne please, smart bomb the whisky wreckers | 08:56 |
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| CraZy675 | membreya, oh where is my head tonight, thanks | 08:56 |
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| Smeven | hi | 08:56 |
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| membreya | madstop: being the US military, he will probably hit china :P | 08:56 |
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| === pinPoint pulls the power plug. agravated |
| FlyNavy | madstop: They're supposed to be friends. but if they're doing that we might make an exception | 08:56 |
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| sabmoc | lol | 08:56 |
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| === pinPoint just great |
| pinPoint | i have to reboot everytime to change my ip dhcp/static | 08:57 |
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| madstop | 'sallright sabmoc, we're just getting over winter here, I have no wish to hit Melbourne at the end of summer, and miss New York spring | 08:57 |
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| pinPoint | total bull | 08:57 |
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| FlyNavy | membreya: I might take that personally:( | 08:57 |
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| dweaver | membreya: I should have known when you got upset about footy that you would be so low as to mix single malt. | 08:57 |
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| Smeven | Is howl planned for ubuntu anytime soon? | 08:57 |
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| madstop | might as well piss in it, and save the coke to clean the toilet. | 08:57 |
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| CraZy675 | yea i don't know whcich device my ntfs is | 08:57 |
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| CraZy675 | there is only one hdd | 08:58 |
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| === pinPoint hands anyone the laptop |
| sabmoc | Smeven: why dont you ask on the monodev wiki, only 3 or 4 mono apps are available at the moment, it would b enice to see more. | 08:58 |
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| === pinPoint piss on it |
| CraZy675 | and 2 cdroms | 08:58 |
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| membreya | Smeven: http://higgs.djpig.de/ubuntu/www/hoary/net/howl-utils | 08:58 |
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| DarthFrog | pinPoint: Sorry I wasn't of more help to you. | 08:58 |
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| membreya | CraZy675: do a sudo fdisk -l | 08:58 |
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| pinPoint | its alright | 08:58 |
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| CraZy675 | membreya, thanks again | 08:58 |
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| pinPoint | i thought i had it but its unpredictable | 08:58 |
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| dweaver | wait a minute, piss in single malt and now I know where Budwiser comes from | 08:58 |
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| membreya | haha dweaver :P | 08:59 |
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| DarthFrog | And on that note, I'm going to bed. | 08:59 |
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| pinPoint | how do i stop loading of network interfaces | 08:59 |
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| DarthFrog | TTFN. | 08:59 |
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| pinPoint | at boot time | 08:59 |
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| membreya | american beer..."for those that can't handle a real beer" | 08:59 |
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| pinPoint | is there a key | 08:59 |
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| sabmoc | DarthFrog: cya bro | 08:59 |
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| membreya | cya DarthFrog | 08:59 |
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| sirukin | hmm | 08:59 |
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| FlyNavy | You can smash BW, but just leave Junior out of it. | 08:59 |
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| madstop | "President Carter, I'm sorry to inform you that your brother Billy's horse has diabetes." | 08:59 |
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| CraZy675 | membreya, i get no results with an sudo fdisk.... | 08:59 |
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| pc03 | hi.. anyone with experience with libgphoto2 or gphoto2 on ubuntu.. i don't seem to be getting access to my usb camera. | 08:59 |
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| === sabmoc wanders away in search of work.. |
| membreya | CraZy675: are you running SATA or IDE? | 09:00 |
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| CraZy675 | membreya, ide | 09:00 |
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| dweaver | I can't get on you about Junior because he is my son's favorite. Then again, he is 10. | 09:00 |
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| membreya | Smeven: so to answer your question, hoary has support for howl | 09:00 |
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| membreya | CraZy675: do a sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda | 09:00 |
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| FlyNavy | dweaver: He's not having a good year. | 09:01 |
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| FlyNavy | membreya: How about Grolsch? My favorite | 09:02 |
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| CraZy675 | membreya, the only device i can get fdisk to list is hdc (the cdrom) | 09:02 |
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| xigle1 | a few days ago, I installed hoary preview. I added the right repositories and was able to install gstreamer, xmms, mplayer, xine etc. But now I reinstalled ubuntu and am getting a lot of error message when I try to install theese programs. Talking about all kinds of packages that's "not installable" and "have unmet dependencies". Any ideas? | 09:02 |
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| dweaver | You'd have to talk to my son. I follow Aussie Football more than NASCAR.] | 09:02 |
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| pinPoint | quick! whats the file that deals with what loads at bootup | 09:03 |
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| FlyNavy | I played rugby for a while. I think I was in a drunk stupor. I came to and went to something safer! | 09:03 |
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| sabmoc | pinPoint, /etc/modules ? | 09:03 |
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| membreya | CraZy675: what happens when you do a sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda | 09:03 |
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| madstop | Like combat aviation, FlyNavy?? | 09:03 |
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| sirukin | hmmm | 09:04 |
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| pinPoint | sabmoc: no | 09:04 |
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| CraZy675 | membreya, nothing the prompt returns as if it was successful | 09:04 |
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| membreya | hrm | 09:04 |
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| pinPoint | like all the boot up processes | 09:04 |
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| FlyNavy | madstop: Right. That is just my career. I turned to boxing for relaxation. | 09:04 |
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| pinPoint | when it says [ ok ] | 09:04 |
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| sabmoc | pinPoint, /etc/init.d/* ? | 09:04 |
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| CraZy675 | i'll reboot see if i get anything to make sure the ide cables are working | 09:05 |
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| === sabmoc has never considered boxing very relaxing. |
| dweaver | thats the only way I played rugby. | 09:05 |
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| madstop | I think I'm actually alive today because my dad's color blindness washed him out of the Army Air Corps back in the 40's. Infantry was somewhat safer back then. | 09:05 |
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| sabmoc | heh | 09:05 |
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| dweaver | madstop, your in the states? | 09:06 |
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| FlyNavy | madstop: my grandfather was AAC. Then AF. | 09:06 |
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| madstop | I'm often in a state of denial about it, but yes, dweaver. New York. | 09:06 |
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| CraZy675 | oh i get a diskboot failer | 09:06 |
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| CraZy675 | great | 09:06 |
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| pinPoint | i hate time sycn | 09:06 |
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| pinPoint | with ntp.ubuntu site | 09:07 |
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| pinPoint | how do i nuke that | 09:07 |
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| dweaver | I'm from NJ. Worked in NY for several years. Just questioning because of the time | 09:07 |
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| madstop | My father was US Army, then flag-burner :-) | 09:07 |
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| tuggy | hey, I just installed the hoary preview disc and for some reason there was a problem installing all the packages | 09:07 |
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| FlyNavy | madstop: To each his own... | 09:07 |
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| ells | tritium: mike what is up man | 09:07 |
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| tuggy | I tried it twice, same thing both times | 09:07 |
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| dweaver | I'm with FlyNavy | 09:07 |
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| sabmoc | pinPoint, `update-rc.d -f ntpdate remove` | 09:07 |
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| madstop | pinPoint, I've been wondering the same thing; boot up is really tortuous with that stuff | 09:08 |
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| tuggy | but the weird thing is, it worked just fine on my laptop | 09:08 |
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| tuggy | only thing different was the CD | 09:08 |
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| pinPoint | when my line is unplugged it lags for like 2mins | 09:08 |
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| pinPoint | less is more! | 09:09 |
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| pinPoint | dont want all that crap loading at boot up | 09:09 |
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| pinPoint | even eth0 and wlan0 | 09:09 |
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| tritium | ells, hey there. I just wrote a paper. You? | 09:09 |
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| pinPoint | the lag me too much | 09:09 |
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| tuggy | why dont you just put the run level to 1 | 09:09 |
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| FlyNavy | all: Gotta go. keep it safe. | 09:10 |
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| tuggy | then only the kernal and basic shell will load | 09:10 |
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| madstop | pinPoint, starting linux when offline is apparently meant to be torture. They want us on-line at all times. A conspiracy. | 09:10 |
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| jimarko | hey dudes and dudettes! | 09:10 |
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| madstop | Take care FlyNavy | 09:10 |
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| dweaver | I am running Ubuntu on my laptop but would like to know what you all think about putting it on a high end desktop. is Ubuntu just a desktop distro or can it work on a server? | 09:10 |
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| zerokarmaleft | pinPoint, you can ctrl-c when init hits the ntp update script to skip past it | 09:10 |
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| sabmoc | jimarko, you mean dudes and dudes_with_boobs? | 09:10 |
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| pinPoint | zerokarmaleft: can i do that to any of them | 09:11 |
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| pinPoint | and most of them | 09:11 |
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| CraZy675 | membreya, now we are talking the power was loose | 09:11 |
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| jimarko | bahahah, nah, thats not reeeally what i intended, but *shrugs*.. whatever ;-) | 09:11 |
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| ProfQki | hi! can anybody tell me when hoary will be the stable distrib, instead of warthy? | 09:11 |
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| tuggy | dweaver. ubuntu is based off debian, one of the most used server distros | 09:11 |
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| ells | tritium: sorry mike, i was watching a fight, did some | 09:11 |
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| ells | tritium: will finish in the morning | 09:11 |
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| tuggy | its very scalable | 09:11 |
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| tritium | ells, cool | 09:11 |
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| gbanay | someone pulled the power cord from my computer while is was upgrading to hoary and now GDM types hebrew (so i can't login graphically) anyone can help me with that? (and maybe describe why something that's supposed to take usernames and password, which are written in a subset of ASCII, nevertheless accepts other languages as input?) | 09:11 |
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| ells | tritium: guess what | 09:11 |
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| tuggy | ProfQki, april 6th | 09:12 |
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| ells | tritium: I got ubuntu on my desktop | 09:12 |
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| ells | tritium: I used the preview version of hoary | 09:12 |
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| Jlk | so do i | 09:12 |
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| sirukin | hmmm | 09:12 |
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| Jlk | whats up bryan | 09:12 |
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| tritium | ells, isn't that what you had the other day when we fixed it? | 09:13 |
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| sirukin | hmm | 09:13 |
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| sirukin | brandom smells | 09:13 |
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| jimarko | hey, quick question, has anyone had a problem with sound falling out of sync in flash animations within Firefox? | 09:13 |
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| dweaver | tuggy: understood, but the plan is to fork of debian | 09:13 |
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| sirukin | brandon* | 09:13 |
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| ProfQki | tuggy: thank you very much | 09:13 |
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| ells | tritium: my desktop had debian | 09:13 |
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| Jlk | so what at least i smell | 09:13 |
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| pinPoint | is there really an OS that works with a dell wireless nic other than winxp | 09:13 |
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| sirukin | haha | 09:13 |
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| pinPoint | right after install of OS | 09:13 |
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| ells | tritium: I am happy to switch over to ubunut on my desktop | 09:13 |
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| === sirukin tempted to secure shell into the box and kill -9 xchatpid |
| tritium | ells, which did we fix X.org on? | 09:13 |
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| Jlk | huh? | 09:13 |
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| ells | tritium: laptop | 09:14 |
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| pinPoint | ok let me reprase | 09:14 |
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| tritium | ells, oh | 09:14 |
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| tritium | cool | 09:14 |
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| pinPoint | is there a wireless nic that works on ubuntu right after install? | 09:14 |
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| pinPoint | with no problems whats so ever | 09:14 |
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| sirukin | I said I'd close your irc client | 09:14 |
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| tuggy | dweaver, since many of the ubuntu devs are debian devs, they will probably still keep many ties | 09:14 |
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| sabmoc | wow, 42 bug reports, i have a bad feeling.... | 09:14 |
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| === sirukin kicks Jlk in the nuts |
| dweaver | tuggy: thanks | 09:15 |
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| Jlk | ha unahva | 09:15 |
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| pinPoint | i will freaking buy it right now online!!! | 09:15 |
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| Jlk | haa good to hear | 09:15 |
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| madstop | a friend of mine has a linksys card and router that worked out of the box. no hassle at all. | 09:15 |
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| tuggy | pinPoint, my el cheapo walmart card works even with the live cds | 09:15 |
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| dweaver | pinpoint: my card didn't work right after install, but was just a simple mod to a file | 09:15 |
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| Jlk | i kick you in the mukpaks? | 09:15 |
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| tuggy | its one of those "network everywhere" brand ones | 09:16 |
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| sirukin | hmm | 09:16 |
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| tuggy | made by linksys for wally world | 09:16 |
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| pinPoint | no no no | 09:16 |
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| jimarko | Has anyone had a problem with sound falling out of sync in flash animations within Firefox? | 09:16 |
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| pinPoint | i dont want mods, nothing! | 09:16 |
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| Jlk | hmm what you think about that | 09:16 |
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| pinPoint | i want it to work right after install | 09:16 |
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| sabmoc | sirukin, you say hmm a lot | 09:16 |
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| pinPoint | tuggy: oops | 09:17 |
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| pinPoint | hehe | 09:17 |
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| Jlk | hmm what you computer hacker | 09:17 |
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| dweaver | actually, mine was an MS card that was easily recognized | 09:17 |
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| sabmoc | tuggy, i think he is insane, dont make eye contact... | 09:17 |
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| pinPoint | names | 09:17 |
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| sirukin | i'M A HMM | 09:17 |
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| madstop | hmm, hah , heh hmm | 09:17 |
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| tuggy | its a 11b card made by "network everywhere" (linksys cheap brand) | 09:17 |
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| pinPoint | nope | 09:18 |
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| pinPoint | it has to be atleast b/g | 09:18 |
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| Jlk | your a hmm? | 09:18 |
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| tuggy | i think all of the linksys work out of the box | 09:18 |
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| tuggy | or atleast the prism based ones | 09:18 |
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| Jlk | a girl? whose your girlfriend sirukin? | 09:19 |
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| dweaver | some prism work as orinoco | 09:20 |
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| CraZy675 | i have tried mounting this partition but i keep getting a bad fs type | 09:20 |
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| tuggy | http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards | 09:20 |
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| CraZy675 | where do i go from here? | 09:20 |
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| tuggy | that is the wiki page for wireless cards | 09:20 |
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| CraZy675 | when i do the fdisk i can see the harddrive | 09:21 |
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| kosmos | CraZy675, post your mountline | 09:21 |
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| CraZy675 | sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows -t ntfs -o umask=0222 | 09:22 |
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| tuggy | CraZy675, are you trying to write to your NTFS drive? | 09:22 |
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| kosmos | try sudo mount -t ntfs /media/windows /dev/hda1 | 09:22 |
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| pinPoint | tuggy: those morons who posted about the TrueMobile 1300 from dell are crazy | 09:22 |
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| pinPoint | that crap aint working for me | 09:23 |
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| pinPoint | spent the last 3 days fight with this crap | 09:23 |
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| kosmos | /media/windows must exist | 09:23 |
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| petemc | ndiswrapper works fine | 09:23 |
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| CraZy675 | tuggy, no just read it | 09:23 |
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| tuggy | pinPoint, it says you have to you ndiswrapper for it | 09:23 |
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| tsaphah | ok this is getting annoying :( My xorg.conf file says I should be at the 1024 res.. but its loading at 640. Gnomes res chaning program shows no higher resolution. Does anyone have thoughts? | 09:24 |
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| dweaver | I can say that the MN-520 does not work out of the box but works aftwer the addition to /etc/pcmcia/config | 09:24 |
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| pinPoint | being using that crap since forever and nothing | 09:24 |
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| tuggy | CraZy675, oh ok... just makin sure cause ntfs writing is still a linux no no | 09:24 |
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| tuggy | pinPoint, I wouldnt expect anything from dell to work right | 09:24 |
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| CraZy675 | tuggy, yea all i want to do is see my documents and copy some over using ftp, I can do that right? | 09:24 |
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| CraZy675 | tuggy, but at this point i can't even see any files | 09:24 |
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| pinPoint | just what i wanted to hear | 09:25 |
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| tuggy | are you using hoary or warty? | 09:25 |
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| kosmos | tuggy, its possible but not advisable | 09:25 |
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| pc03 | hi.. anyone with experience with libgphoto2 or gphoto2 on ubuntu.. i don't seem to be getting access to my usb camera. | 09:25 |
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| kosmos | shoud work fine | 09:25 |
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| petemc | umask=022 will allow your normal user to read the mount | 09:26 |
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| dweaver | sabmoc, your back, I was getting lonely. | 09:27 |
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| tuggy | you know where the name windows came from? | 09:27 |
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| gbanay | GDM on my box types hebrew, how do i make it type english so i can type my usename and login? | 09:27 |
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| CraZy675 | kosmos, wrong fs, bad option | 09:27 |
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| petemc | gbanay: boot into recovery mode and finish the update? | 09:27 |
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| petemc | CraZy675: fdisk -l /dev/hda | 09:28 |
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| gbanay | petemc, what is recovery mode and how do i boot into it? | 09:28 |
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| pinPoint | tuggy: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=485115&Sku=D700-2148&SRCCODE=WEBGOOAUT&CMP=KNC-GOOGL | 09:28 |
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| petemc | gbanay: should be an option when you boot | 09:28 |
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| gbanay | petemc, ok, i'll try it, thanks | 09:29 |
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| sabmoc | tuggy, actually its because of the gui that they call it windows, but I like your version better. | 09:29 |
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| CraZy675 | thanks | 09:29 |
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| petemc | np | 09:29 |
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| petemc | CraZy675: for the record, you dont need to use ftp, just cp the stuff you need | 09:30 |
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| shmoolik | good morning | 09:30 |
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| pinPoint | i will buy that card right now!!!! | 09:30 |
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| aeolist_ | i am trying to compile a kernel, and i get a drivers/block/cloop.c missing error | 09:31 |
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| petemc | im using a dell latitude now, everything works | 09:31 |
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| shmoolik | does some one here got his webcam working on Ubuntu? | 09:32 |
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| tuggy | yeah, dlink stuff has a good reputation for working in linux | 09:32 |
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| dweaver | shmoolik: Good Morning to you although I haven't finished my last beer yet. | 09:33 |
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| tuggy | WOOHOO!! any washington users here? Linuxfest Northwest is in 41 day!! | 09:33 |
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| dweaver | ditto that | 09:36 |
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| tritium | tuggy, used to live in WA | 09:36 |
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| tuggy | tritium, you moved just in time, we havent gotten any rain this year | 09:36 |
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| tuggy | so we are heading for drought time | 09:36 |
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| tritium | tuggy, I'm from New Mexico, where we have droughts all the time ;) | 09:37 |
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| Sloppy | will gnome 2.10 show up for warty users? | 09:38 |
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| pinPoint | where can i get AR5212 Atheros DWL-G650 | 09:39 |
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| tuggy | pinPoint, http://support.dlink.com/products/revision.asp?productid=DWL-G650 | 09:44 |
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| kosmos | or just type "nautilus" in your shell | 09:44 |
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| CraZy675 | Ghost-nine, yea i think i can get it from here | 09:44 |
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| Ghost-nine | CraZy675, okay | 09:45 |
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| xigle1 | damn, gaim doesn't have /ignore | 09:45 |
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| CraZy675 | just have to set up dhcp server | 09:45 |
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| zerokarmaleft | finally | 09:45 |
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| spectrm | xiglet: maybe you should use a REAL client ;) | 09:45 |
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| Ghost-nine | xiglet, use the command manually | 09:45 |
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| Ghost-nine | spectrm, haha | 09:45 |
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| pinPoint | tuggy: http://www.newegg.com/app/Showimage.asp?image=33-127-116-08.JPG/33-127-116-06.JPG/33-127-116-07.JPG/33-127-116-04.JPG&CurImage=33-127-116-08.JPG&Type=Refurbished | 09:45 |
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| dweaver | you,we didn;t even know you | 09:46 |
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| spectrm | dweaver: but I'm glad we don't | 09:46 |
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| xiglet | i used it manually .. but yes, x-chat is much better when it comes to irc | 09:46 |
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| dweaver | :) | 09:46 |
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| xiglet | tried hoary preview about 1 week ago .. finally a distro that was able to configure my integrated 802.11g card by deafult. :D | 09:47 |
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| xiglet | and i'm back to gnome again :) | 09:47 |
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| zerokarmaleft | xiglet, what were you using during your gnome hiatus? | 09:49 |
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| CraZy675 | how do i set the static IP and gateway and so on, using the live cd? | 09:49 |
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| sabmoc | spectrm, are you on the ubuntu team? | 09:49 |
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| spectrm | sabmoc: no | 09:49 |
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| spectrm | sabmoc: just another IRCer sick of the bullshit | 09:50 |
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| sabmoc | Are any of the ubuntu team awake? ping ping ping | 09:50 |
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| xiglet | zerokarmaleft: well ... fedora core 1 and so ... I guess, 2.4 or something. there have been some improvements since then | 09:50 |
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| spectrm | I wished I was staff so I could drop you off the network | 09:50 |
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| spectrm | excuse me | 09:50 |
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| spectrm | 'you' off the network | 09:50 |
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| Ghost-nine | why the shit talk spacey | 09:50 |
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| sabmoc | huh? | 09:50 |
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| Ghost-nine | err | 09:50 |
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| Ghost-nine | spectrm, | 09:50 |
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| spectrm | sabmoc: the guy spamming before | 09:51 |
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| sabmoc | it wasnt me! | 09:51 |
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| petemc | heh | 09:51 |
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| spectrm | sabmoc: I know | 09:51 |
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| Ghost-nine | sabmoc, no his nick was "YOU" | 09:51 |
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| spectrm | sabmoc: but his nick was 'you' | 09:51 |
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| sabmoc | lol | 09:51 |
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| xiglet | zerokarmaleft: there is still things I like much more with KDE, but .. I just don't like looking at it ... even if I find a theme I like .. It just looks like windows for 8 year old girls :) | 09:51 |
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| pinPoint | tuggy: youa round? | 09:51 |
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| tuggy | pinPoint, p://support.dlink.com/faq/view.asp?prod_id=357&question=General%20Wireless | 09:51 |
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| Ghost-nine | haha | 09:51 |
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| tuggy | http://support.dlink.com/faq/view.asp?prod_id=357&question=General%20Wireless | 09:51 |
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| zerokarmaleft | xiglet, lmao | 09:52 |
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| Ghost-nine | nice description xiglet | 09:52 |
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| pinPoint | tuggy: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=485115&CatId=0 | 09:52 |
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| sabmoc | yeah it was 'girl' for a while, then 'brans5' now i see it is 'you' | 09:52 |
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| sabmoc | same ip for all three names | 09:52 |
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| tuggy | that has which dlink cards have linux drives | 09:52 |
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| spectrm | sabmoc: well...he's gone now...good thing | 09:52 |
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| zerokarmaleft | xiglet, felt the same way when i used kde 3.2 on gentoo | 09:52 |
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| spectrm | kde is...well...I'll keep my opinions to myself | 09:53 |
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| sabmoc | spectrm, this is the third time today, I think chances are good we have not seen the last of 'you' | 09:53 |
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| xiglet | zerokarmaleft: gnome just ... give me a good feeling ;-) | 09:53 |
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| pinPoint | tuggy: ... | 09:53 |
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| tuggy | pinPoint, looks like all the dwl-g650 cards have drivers\ | 09:53 |
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| xiglet | kde have some great features though | 09:53 |
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| underlord | i want to execute a program at command line, but make it terminate in 10 seconds from the launch time if it doesn't terminate itself, is this easy in bash/ubuntu? | 09:53 |
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| sabmoc | GNOME is sexy | 09:53 |
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| pinPoint | ah | 09:53 |
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| Ghost-nine | sabmoc, eh, OSX is sexy... gnome is usable ;P | 09:54 |
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| spectrm | e17 is sexy | 09:54 |
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| Ghost-nine | that too | 09:54 |
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| spectrm | the rest are just there | 09:54 |
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| pinPoint | except for K1 | 09:54 |
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| sabmoc | OSX is candy, GNOME is sexy, KDE is plastic, WINDOWS is shit | 09:54 |
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| spectrm | Kwin is slow, bloated, and buggy | 09:54 |
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| Ghost-nine | spectrm, idea for new ubuntu livecd, Ebuntu | 09:54 |
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| spectrm | Ghost-nine: YES!!!! | 09:54 |
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| spectrm | Ghost-nine: excellent idea | 09:54 |
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| Ghost-nine | there's already kubuntu | 09:55 |
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| tuggy | so with hoary, any of the dwl-g650 cards should work out of the box | 09:55 |
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| Ghost-nine | why not Ebuntu? | 09:55 |
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| xiglet | but I have one problem with ubuntu. Installed hoary the same day the preview was released, added the repo's multiverse, marillat and universe and was able to install xmms, xine, mplayer etc. Did the same thing now after a reinstall but now I'm getting a lot of errors. Some dependencie problems. Anyone experienced something like this? | 09:55 |
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| sabmoc | xiglet, yep | 09:55 |
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| tuggy | xiglet, there is like 60 updates a day | 09:55 |
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| tuggy | it is going to be like this till april 6th | 09:56 |
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| sabmoc | xiglet, right now so many packages are being updated that things are a bit funky | 09:56 |
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| spectrm | xiglet: the repo's might not be compatible | 09:56 |
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| xiglet | ok, I see | 09:56 |
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| spectrm | xiglet: ubuntu's still going through some infrastructure dev | 09:56 |
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| sabmoc | xiglet, after its 'officially' release everything will calm way down and stuff should just work | 09:56 |
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| spectrm | xiglet: I'd check with a project lead | 09:56 |
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| xiglet | ok, thanks | 09:56 |
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| spectrm | xiglet: I can't see the errors from here | 09:56 |
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| spectrm | xiglet: otherwise I'd prolly be able to figure it out | 09:56 |
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| xiglet | so I should stick to stable I guess | 09:57 |
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| spectrm | xiglet: maybe uninstall and reinstall the packages | 09:57 |
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| sabmoc | or just dont upgrade until its released | 09:57 |
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| sabmoc | are most of the bugs involving mplayer xiglet ? | 09:57 |
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| xiglet | I just tried spamassassin. It said : Depends: libhtml-parser-perl (>= 3.31) but it is not installable | 09:57 |
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| pinPoint | how does one remove a minipci card | 09:58 |
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| pinPoint | where is it? | 09:58 |
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| pinPoint | on a laptop | 09:58 |
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| spectrm | pinPoint: pcmcia slot | 09:58 |
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| pinPoint | no | 09:58 |
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| pinPoint | its builtin | 09:58 |
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| sabmoc | heh, goodlucky | 09:58 |
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| spectrm | pinPoint: wanna start scrapping your lappy already? | 09:58 |
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| pinPoint | had for 7+months | 09:59 |
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| xiglet | maybe it is some other problems here. But it's strange, the only thing I did after install was to create gpg keys (as the wiki said) and added multiverse , marillat and universe | 09:59 |
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| tuggy | pinPoint, probably under the keyboard in under a back panel | 09:59 |
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| pinPoint | hell ya! if that means i get a new pcmcia card | 09:59 |
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| xiglet | sabmoc: so no, now it suddenly appears to involve a lot of packages... | 09:59 |
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| pinPoint | if i do get a pcmcia card | 09:59 |
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| pinPoint | will it be wlan1 or 0 | 09:59 |
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| sabmoc | im pretty sure taking your laptop appart will void any warrenty | 09:59 |
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| tuggy | pin you can just leave the minipci card in | 09:59 |
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| spectrm | pinPoint: ifconfig | 09:59 |
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| tuggy | its not going to hurt anything | 09:59 |
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| tuggy | unless you want to say... smash it | 10:00 |
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| sabmoc | xiglet, yep, its just the blitz, wait a while or maybe try reinstalling if possible. | 10:00 |
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| pinPoint | im angry at it | 10:00 |
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| pinPoint | we settle it out one on one | 10:00 |
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| tuggy | lol | 10:00 |
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| spectrm | 3am already....damn | 10:00 |
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| pinPoint | me and the card | 10:00 |
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| sabmoc | sleep is for the weak | 10:00 |
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| xiglet | sabmoc: I just reinstalled. But I guess I'll have to live with it as long as it is unstable | 10:00 |
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| sabmoc | you dont want sleep | 10:00 |
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| sabmoc | xiglet, yep, pretty much | 10:01 |
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| xiglet | thank you | 10:01 |
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| xiglet | I hope hoary will be released soon then :) | 10:01 |
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| tuggy | xiglet, just keep updating till it works right | 10:01 |
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| xiglet | sleep? I'm just about to dress up for snowboard skiing | 10:02 |
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| tuggy | then dont update untill after release | 10:02 |
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| sabmoc | xiglet, install apt-listbugs | 10:02 |
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| xiglet | sabmoc: error on that one as well :) | 10:02 |
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| sabmoc | lol | 10:02 |
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| sabmoc | nicely played! | 10:02 |
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| sabmoc | oh well, i tried | 10:03 |
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| xiglet | :) sabmoc .. http://paste.plone.org/1116 | 10:03 |
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| xiglet | Guess I'll try with a new reinstall tonight ... without these unofficial repos | 10:04 |
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| Ghost-nine | oops | 10:04 |
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| tuggy | I tried the kubuntu live disk... KDE 3.4 is pretty damn sweet | 10:04 |
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| Ghost-nine | wrong channel | 10:04 |
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| Ghost-nine | :/ | 10:04 |
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| membreya | die Ghost-nine ! | 10:05 |
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| Ghost-nine | hey watch it... | 10:05 |
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| Ghost-nine | ;P | 10:05 |
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| tuggy | xiglet, the one that probably messed you up was the marrilat | 10:05 |
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| tuggy | I have been using universe and multiverse with no problems | 10:05 |
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| xiglet | tuggy: ok ... i'll try to go easy on that one next time then | 10:06 |
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| tuggy | JUST use marrilat to get w32codecs and libdvdcss2 then shut it off | 10:06 |
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| xiglet | ok, good idea | 10:06 |
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| njs12345 | my sound seems to have gone all of a sudden | 10:07 |
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| tuggy | njs- I think it has to do with the update from today | 10:07 |
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| tuggy | your not the first to say it | 10:07 |
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| njs12345 | tuggy: that's quite possible | 10:07 |
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| tuggy | are you using hoary? | 10:07 |
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| njs12345 | yup | 10:07 |
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| njs12345 | when I run `esd` I get | 10:07 |
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| xiglet | array-7 is the same as preview, only a few days newer? | 10:07 |
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| njs12345 | njs@nick-bedroom:/dev $ esd | 10:07 |
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| njs12345 | /dev/dsp: No such device | 10:07 |
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| tuggy | hmm | 10:08 |
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| kosmos | hm, sount turns out to be a real issue ;) | 10:08 |
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| njs12345 | which is strange, because I can cat /dev/dsp just fine | 10:08 |
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| tuggy | have you made sure to turn the volume back up? | 10:08 |
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| Ghost-nine | njs12345, can you play sound as root? | 10:08 |
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| themaxx | Hello everyone.. I am in Taiwan and the Ubuntu's FTP server is slow as hell... I'm trying to grap array 7 but at this speed it'll finnish in a week!! | 10:08 |
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| tuggy | I know afte the update it turns the volume back down | 10:08 |
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| pinPoint | tuggy: what do you think :: ===->http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=485115&CatId=0 | 10:09 |
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| themaxx | Anyone knows a mirror??? | 10:09 |
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| njs12345 | Ghost-nine: no | 10:09 |
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| njs12345 | root@nick-bedroom:/dev # cat /dev/urandom > /dev/audio | 10:09 |
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| njs12345 | bash: /dev/audio: No such device | 10:09 |
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| tuggy | pinPoint, I think it will work | 10:09 |
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| Ghost-nine | njs12345, only reason i could think thats doesnt work, is because your audio card wasnt detected | 10:09 |
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| themaxx | The torrent is also verry slow... | 10:09 |
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| tuggy | all three revisions have drivers | 10:09 |
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| Ghost-nine | njs12345, what audio card? | 10:10 |
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| njs12345 | Ghost-nine: it was working before, and if I run lsmod I get all the right drivers | 10:10 |
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| tuggy | themaxx, you a sam keith fan? | 10:10 |
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