=== warthylog [~warthylog@port49.ds1-van.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #kubuntu === Topic for #kubuntu: Preview Released http://www.kubuntu.org.uk/ | Feedback please: https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/KubuntuPreviewComments === Topic (#kubuntu): set by Riddell at Fri Mar 18 04:20:54 2005 === dudley [~dudley@ip70-179-213-96.dl.dl.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:28] b-_-d: I'm thinking much the same thing. [06:28] I'm at about 15% right now [06:29] 10hrs. 41mins to go === anders_ [~anders@cD9088A1D.sdsl.catch.no] has joined #kubuntu [06:43] hi, I'm having trouble installing kde. Getting: kde: Depends: kdeaddons but it is not going to be installed [06:43] E: Broken packages [06:44] anybody know how to fix that [06:45] kdeaddons: Depends: konq-plugins (>= 4:3.3.2-1ubuntu1) but it is not going to be installed E: Broken packages [06:47] The following packages have unmet dependencies: konq-plugins: Depends: kdelibs4 (>= 4:3.3.2) but it is not going to be installed Depends: konqueror (>= 4:3.3.2) but it is not going to be installed Depends: libkonq4 (>= 4:3.3.2) but it is not going to be installed Depends: ark but it is not going to be installed E: Broken packages === dudley [~dudley@ip70-179-213-96.dl.dl.cox.net] has left #kubuntu ["Kopete] === dudley [~dudley@ip70-179-213-96.dl.dl.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:01] b-_-d: please use bittorrent [07:05] mdz: do you know where the Kubuntu images can be had on BT right now? [07:06] SuperL4g: unless you need the livecd, you can try installing ubuntu and then installing the kubuntu-desktop package === BamaJank [Br_mSToNeA@68.212.213.6] has joined #kubuntu [07:07] bittorrent did not work [07:07] i will get the iso and host on a faster server [07:08] Alright, I want to check out kubuntu, what is the best method? I have 4.10 ubuntu on a cd, should I install that and just grab the KDE files or download the install CD for Kubuntu? [07:08] SuperL4g: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/hoary/preview/ [07:09] BamaJank: if you install Ubuntu 4.10, you will need to upgrade to the development release anyway in order to install the Kubuntu desktop [07:09] BamaJank: so it is probably simpler to download a new ISO [07:09] Thanks mdz, will do === kbitty [~elite@60.240.143.191] has joined #kubuntu [07:11] http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=22008 === SuperL4g [~colbyirc@SuperLag.developer.gentoo] has joined #kubuntu [07:13] i will post a amd64 and ix86 iso in about 10 hours [07:14] SuperL4g what you at now? [07:15] 20% [07:15] 21% here :( [07:15] SuperL4g: did you receive the URL I sent you, where the .torrents are available? [07:15] they are in the same directory as the isos; we always publish torrents at the same time [07:15] torrents did not work [07:16] b-_-d: if they did not work for you, the problem is on your end (I am using them right now) [07:16] mdz: yes sir, and unfortunately, no one wants or is going after the PPC .iso at the moment :) [07:16] Torrents are working for me [07:16] i have access to two fast servers [07:16] brb [07:16] http and ftp will work for everyone [07:17] yes, but they will also take 10 hours [07:17] bittorrent not only saves bandwidth on the server side, it'll get you the file faster [07:17] mdz not at 200+ and 300+ k [07:17] did ne one like my ss? [07:18] 16.9k is no good [07:19] i have tons of bandwith to use [07:19] Give me some...I have low bandwidth.. :( [07:19] lol [07:19] ;-) === SuperL4g [~colbyirc@SuperLag.developer.gentoo] has joined #kubuntu [07:20] 25k is pegging me LMAO === kbitty [~elite@60.240.143.191] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] [07:20] mdz: yeah, no one wants the PPC one like I do, at this point :) [07:20] SuperL4g: I'm seeding it, zero peers [07:21] mdz: you have it already? [07:21] I built it [07:21] :) [07:21] can site that host kubuntu isos use the kubuntu logo? [07:22] Good way to get it ;-) [07:22] I have a seed running with all 6 images; currently ~75kb/sec on -live-powerpc.iso, 0kb on -install-powerpc.iso [07:23] i think i will also offer a isos in parts [07:23] b-_-d: I don't see why not, as long as you are offering the official images [07:23] mdz: I wonder why I can't see it...? [07:23] mdz i want to be shure [07:24] we do not want issues later === cam [~cam@ppp44-235.lns1.adl1.internode.on.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:25] SuperL4g: I suppose I could be hitting the limit on the number of peers [07:25] hmm, no, that limit is per torrent === cam [~cam@ppp44-235.lns1.adl1.internode.on.net] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] [07:26] every other torrent is active, and I've served 3.6GB worth of the powerpc install iso previously, so I think it's OK on this end [07:26] i do not see a point of contact on the site [07:26] i will just not use the logo :( [07:26] that's fine too [07:26] we don't use the logo on the official download page either [07:27] i want to i just do not want to get hit later [07:28] I've told you that it's fine, but I don't think it's important [07:28] ok [07:29] is it ok to host other distros in same dir [07:29] who are ops in #ubuntu? [07:29] i'm banned, and the person who banned me won't reply or tell me why he did it. [07:30] i have some gentoo isos in the dir i want to put kubuntu in === Roey [~ubuntu@pcp04370251pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:31] hi [07:31] ok [07:31] what in the blue FUCK [07:31] kubuntu, like ubuntu, is free software [07:31] mdz: I reboot to try out Kubuntu, [07:32] I see that it detected my raid array [07:32] so I mount /dev/md5 (/home) [07:32] look around (not writing anything) [07:32] umount it, and reboot [07:32] Roey great i also run scsi [07:32] scsi and raid are orthogonal [07:32] upon rebooting, I see that md5 and md6 have been jumbled up; [07:32] that is, [07:33] my 39160 and 2940u2w worked [07:33] /dev/hde1 and /dev/hdg1 are now on /dev/md5, where before they were on /dev/md1 [07:33] Roey want scsi card? [07:33] no [07:33] hdg? [07:33] I want to know what kubuntu did that jumbled up the ordering of the drives. [07:33] that is ide [07:34] because now I can't load /home. [07:34] long story, I have two sata hard drives with a 2.6.7 kernel [07:34] /dev/hdg and /dev/hde [07:34] and they're in a software raid1 array. [07:34] so... [07:34] Roey fix by hand from live cd in chroot [07:35] I want to fix it so that /dev/md1 consists of /dev/hd{e,g}1 [07:35] and that /dev/md5 consist of /dev/hd{e,g}5 [07:35] and that /dev/md6 consists of /dev/hd{e,g}6 [07:35] like that. [07:35] b-_-d: how? [07:35] b-_-d: I don't know what got messed up. [07:35] Okay... some investigation tells me that Luxi Sans is part of the ttf-freefont package. But apt-get install tells me the newest version is already installed. If that is the case, why do I not see Luxi Sans in any list of fonts anywhere? [07:36] mount the drive and do trile and error [07:36] i only use real raid [07:37] but i am not knocking software raid [07:37] SuperL4g: that font is not part of ttf-freefont [07:37] 25% [07:38] mdz: do you know what package it comes in? [07:38] SuperL4g: I have never heard of it [07:38] copy the fonts from a win box [07:38] KDE 3.1 - 3.3 has had it [07:38] whey work well in xorg [07:38] fuck meeeeee [07:38] ack. [07:40] bingo [07:40] licensing [07:40] they're non-free [07:40] mount: /dev/md5: can't read superblock [07:40] what the fuck [07:40] ? [07:40] how can I tell if my data is still there??? [07:41] root@ubuntu:/mnt# mount -t xfs /dev/md5 /mnt/md5 [07:41] mount: /dev/md5: can't read superblock [07:41] root@ubuntu:/mnt# mount -t xfs /dev/sda5 /mnt/md5 [07:41] mount: /dev/sda5 already mounted or /mnt/md5 busy [07:42] where can i find a package list [07:44] http://www.kubuntu.org.uk/documentation.php#d0e275 [07:44] read under "Package Management" [07:45] person coding missed the word all [07:45] There are literally thousands of applications written for KDE, Kubuntu cannot install of them and it is unlikely that you would want it to. === SuperL4g [~colbyirc@SuperLag.developer.gentoo] has joined #kubuntu === Blaqeagle [~mikeman@220-245-91-169-nsw.tpgi.com.au] has joined #kubuntu === Blaqeagle is now known as blaq === slick [~kvirc@fixed-203-87-17-217.vic.chariot.net.au] has joined #kubuntu [07:54] hi all, does anyone know if azureus can be used under kubuntu? [07:55] i have installed jre and the gtk version of azureus, it starts fine but just doesnt load, no errors or anything === spektr [~th@M823P001.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu === tackat [~tackat@pD95009D4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu === Clintology [~Clint@nr30-69-61-185-210.fuse.net] has joined #kubuntu === psoulocybe [~psoulocyb@adsl-065-007-128-249.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:26] what is the difference between upgrade and dist-upgrade [08:26] hi guys [08:26] i'm trying to setup a static ip [08:27] i can't find it in kcontrol [08:27] any ideas? [08:27] BROKEN_LADDER, versioning? [08:27] huh? [08:27] what do you mean? [08:27] dist-upgrade would upgrade the entire OS and the version(base) [08:27] while upgrade would simply upgrade all of that but keep the old version file [08:28] version? [08:28] anyone know how to do the network settings? [08:28] "do"? [08:28] BROKEN_LADDER, yes the /etc/release or whatever your distro uses [08:28] you mean like ipchains? [08:28] no, i just want my local ipaddress to be static [08:28] psoulocybe, that'd be the net file [08:29] where is that? [08:29] where you set the static ip [08:29] and dhcp/dns [08:29] i'm a little lost w/ the new kde [08:29] on ubuntu not really sure(funny you ask I was looking for it earlier) [08:29] i can't find it anywhere [08:29] and no one on my other linux channels has any idea either [08:30] i figured someone on #kubuntu would know :) [08:31] on gentoo its /etc/conf.d/net [08:31] let me look [08:31] a bit harder [08:31] dilema: he's saying. like in ubuntu you go to System > Administration > Network Settings [08:32] Clintology, which is the same as modifing the net file [08:32] but on a more perm basis [08:32] who wants to edit a file to change their IP though? :) [08:32] if he's looking for the GUI frotnend in KDE [08:32] lol [08:32] I don't know [08:32] yeah... i don't [08:33] in the last kde it was in kcontrol [08:33] but now it's not here [08:33] dilema: yes, that was his question :) [08:33] heh [08:33] sorry [08:33] if there is a command line way, i'm cool with that [08:33] psoulocybe, there is === dilema looks to see where those ubuntu people stashed it [08:34] lol [08:34] i love my router, but god i wish it gave ip addresses based on mac address... it made it so much easier [08:34] not wireless? [08:34] it's wireless [08:34] huh [08:34] but my computer isn't wireless [08:34] ahh [08:35] :) [08:35] aight gimme a minute to find this puppy [08:38] wtf [08:38] where the hell is it [08:38] i'm trying it in /etc/network/interfaces [08:39] i figure i can specify address, netmask, and gateway... and i should be cool [08:39] ifconfig_eth0=( [08:39] "192.168.1.101 netmask 255.255.255.0" [08:39] ) [08:39] that [08:39] where 192.168.1.101 = your ip addy [08:39] i have to specify my dns too don't i? [08:40] shit [08:40] one sec [08:40] i'm going to have to call my provider [08:40] heh [08:40] na ya shouldn't [08:40] routes_eth0=( [08:40] "default gw 192.168.1.1" [08:40] ) [08:40] i remember having to when i had my dsk setup [08:40] thats your router addy [08:40] i'll try using 192.168.1.1 [08:41] check your router [08:41] it should have your dns [08:41] oooh [08:41] good idea [08:41] thx [08:41] actualy ya don't need DNS [08:41] heh [08:41] some routers have a (caching/proxy) dns server built in...so yeah try pointing dns at your router and see if that works [08:41] really? [08:42] just your netmask/static ip addy/router gateway [08:42] psoulocybe, ya my net file doens't have dns enttries [08:42] and it's set up for statip ip [08:42] (on my gentoo box) [08:42] hmm... when i save interfaces, do i have to restart anything to get changes to take effect? [08:42] so just modify/add what I pasted and ya should be good [08:42] yeah [08:43] restart net [08:43] /etc/init.d/net restart [08:43] that didn't work [08:43] the run ifconfig [08:43] huh [08:43] /etc/init.d/networking restart? === Imrahil [~Imrahil@c68.185.170.245.mad.wi.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu === psoulocybe [~psoulocyb@adsl-065-007-128-249.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:01] hmmm... definatly need dns servers for my isp [09:01] don't know why... but i do [09:02] had to reboot to get changes to interfaces too [09:02] that was weird === froud-away is now known as froud [09:02] /etc/init.d/networking restart didnt' do it === dilema_ [~dilema@ip68-11-49-227.no.no.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:02] odd [09:03] i dunno what the dns looks like [09:03] wwell how to input dns [09:03] yeah.. i'll google it === ztonzy [~ztonzy@c-7146e055.560-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #kubuntu === mpathy [~markus@reverse-82-141-58-106.dialin.kamp-dsl.de] has joined #kubuntu [09:17] amu, morning === psoulocybe [~psoulocyb@adsl-065-007-128-249.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:34] i found out something not to try... and possibly a bug w/ kubuntu [09:34] knetworkconf is the module you can apt-get for kconsole [09:34] do not do it [09:35] it's not compatible w/ hoary it seems... as it threw a number of bugs for me === da_bon_bon [~rohandhru@203.212.221.132] has joined #kubuntu === marshall_ [~marshall@c-24-20-185-127.client.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === psoulocybe_ [~psoulocyb@adsl-065-007-128-249.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu === dreamwave [~dreamwave@69-163-64-118.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu === Beuno [~bueno@98-143-126-200.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #kubuntu [10:01] hey, Im using ubuntu, and Im trying to get kubuntu installed [10:01] can anyone give me a hand? === dreamwave [~dreamwave@69-163-64-118.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu === mpathy [~markus@reverse-82-141-58-106.dialin.kamp-dsl.de] has joined #kubuntu [10:04] Beuno, http://www.kubuntu.org.uk/faq.php [10:04] or : "apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" [10:04] yeah [10:04] I did that [10:04] I get this: [10:04] kubuntu-desktop: Depends: python-gnome2 but it is not going to be installed [10:04] Depends: python-imaging-sane but it is not going to be instal [10:05] hmm [10:05] install those first maybe ? [10:06] well, I do get an error when trying to install those === BROKEN_LADDER [~BROKEN@h-67-101-103-94.snfccasy.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #KUBUNTU [10:07] Beuno, then I dont know :( [10:07] ok, Ill keep on digging, thanks [10:07] Beuno, maybe do backup and install Kubuntu from scratch ? === Beuno [~bueno@98-143-126-200.fibertel.com.ar] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] [10:07] I did that === memcmeme [~noone@wbar1.sea1-4-5-020-127.sea1.dsl-verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu [10:09] greetings friends === lexNL [~alex@84-104-152-170.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #kubuntu [10:33] hiya guys [10:33] hiya [10:33] I've installed the kubuntu beta. [10:33] now, when I open "storage media" and click on a drive [10:33] I get an error! [10:33] lexNL, install pmount [10:34] pmount? with kynaptic i assume? [10:34] "apt-get install pmount" [10:34] maybe we should add that workaround page to the topic [10:34] or in konsole (terminal) [10:34] haggai, I wonder if it is a workaround rather than a plain miss [10:34] oh yeah, not sure where to put this, but on a normal install, with K3B, I had to install cdrdao manually [10:35] ztonzy: I don't get you. I mean workaround as in working around a known problem === ..[topic/#kubuntu:haggai] : Preview Released http://www.kubuntu.org.uk/ | Feedback please: https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/KubuntuPreviewComments | https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/KubuntuPreviewKnownProblems [10:36] haggai, I had same problems before...after browsing and goggling I first did modprobe usb-storage and then edited my fstab, then amu told me to install 'pmount' instead (I think it was he who told me to do that) [10:37] well... [10:37] I dont know everything, it is just a hunch [10:37] ztonzy: but if kubuntu had installed pmount by default, there would be no problem, right? [10:37] haggai, true === danny666 [~danny@xdsl-213-196-211-64.netcologne.de] has joined #kubuntu [10:38] ztonzy: I've installed pmount... I should reboot, or ...? [10:38] dont know if you need to "modprobe pmount" [10:39] but I would try the storage media first [10:40] I also wished this would work as default Ubuntu (with Gnome) that the drives(media) loads on desktop by auto...as on the Gnome desktop (I used Ubuntu before) [10:40] ztonzy: yeah, I was impressed with that too. [10:41] but I'm more a kde guy so... [10:42] lexNL, same here [10:42] ztonzy: bring it up on the mailing list (about icons on the desktop) and we'll see what the concensus is. I quite like the icons too [10:42] you guys do know it can be turned on in control centre, right? [10:42] ztonzy: the media:// still complains about fstab orso. the modprobe pmount gives an "pmount not found" error [10:42] haggai, oops :) [10:43] lexNL, aah...maybe a reboot is at hand then [10:43] hehehe :) ok... Will try that. Should I put pmount in some modules config file orso? to make sure that it loads? [10:43] I don't think it is a module [10:44] LOL [10:44] haggai, thanks...sorry :) [10:44] I think pmount has to do with hal-stuff...but I dunno [10:44] that's right [10:44] the user needs to be a member of the 'plugdev' group === ztonzy is not fully linux guru yet...long yet to go [10:45] haggai: is that so by default, or should I do some user-group magic? [10:45] lexNL: should be by default. 'id ' to check [10:46] yep, it is. [10:46] thanks. [10:46] I'll be going for a reboot. back in a sec. === lexNL [~alex@84-104-152-170.cable.quicknet.nl] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [10:46] back later === lexNL [~alex@84-104-152-170.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #kubuntu [10:50] ztonzy: nope, no succes [10:50] still get fstab error [10:55] hmm [10:55] I have lines in fstab, but I commented them out [10:56] yeah... i guess the idea is that pmount /dev/hda2 mounts it automatically in /media orso... but it doesn't seem like media:// actually uses pmount [10:56] because it still gives errors about /etc/fstab [10:58] usb-sticks here get loaded as /dev/sda1 or sdb1/ [10:58] i could try a usb-stick, but my normal harddisk partition won't even work yet :) [10:59] well, besides the / dir obviously [10:59] (and it does work when I mount manually as well) === spiral [~spiral@lafilaire-4-82-224-249-43.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu [10:59] funny, suddenly I got loads of media loaded (harddisks) [10:59] hi [11:00] media:// does recognize my memory stick. [11:00] and it actually mounts it as well [11:00] Impressive === lexNL impressed [11:00] now the partitions [11:00] nope, still nothing there. [11:00] lexNL, yepp, that is what we wanted for you [11:00] but the memorystick works! === lexNL happy to see my memorystick work that easy. [11:02] the thing still does not work with /dev/hda6 for example, my big data partition. [11:02] lexNL, is usb-storage loaded when you do 'lsmod' ? [11:02] usb_storage I mean [11:02] yep, part of the scsi_mod thing [11:02] and ide_core [11:03] and as itself [11:03] mine is also loaded by itselg [11:03] itself* [11:03] what mainboard type ? [11:03] yep, looked over it, but it is here as well. [11:03] mainboard as in motherboard? An asus amd64 mobo. [11:03] oh, better than mine...got a Asus kt600 [11:04] k8v se here. [11:04] not sure if it is any better - or any good at all - but it seems to work [11:06] I had Huge problems with my former mobo...a Shuttle with nforce2 ultra...network and filesystem error... [11:06] (ok, I'll edit the fstab, probably the easiest way out.) [11:06] sold it and bought this little more than a week ago [11:07] I actually had a asus k8n (i think it was) that only worked a day with my amd64, then it never booted up again. [11:07] another asus k8n mobo also didn't work. [11:07] ack [11:14] ok, that is better. [11:15] now, I've always have to chown alex.alex my /mnt/hda2 directory, before I can write to it when the partition is mounted. [11:15] is there a nicer way to do that? [11:18] oh, have to go offline. Thanks for your help ztonzy! [11:18] bye! === lexNL [~alex@84-104-152-170.cable.quicknet.nl] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [11:18] hmm bye! :D [11:19] too late... === DavidH86 [~ask@12-223-132-65.client.insightbb.com] has joined #kubuntu === pepsi [~pepsi@72-254-8-234.client.stsn.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:28] howdy hi === Bubbling_Zombie [~zombie@dD577A092.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu [11:28] i installed kubuntu [11:28] and now my fonts are all borked in gnome.. 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[01:08] on win i did :) [01:08] and with linux, I saw Skype-compliant headsets yesterday [01:08] :) [01:08] got curious [01:08] <_P_> i used skype [01:08] <_P_> on debian some time ago [01:08] what windowmanagers are you guys using ? [01:08] <_P_> on kubuntu not yet [01:08] i need something leet, with alot of transparancy & easy configgin :) [01:09] snk00sj: kwin [01:09] kwin [01:09] snk00sj, kde 3.4 of course :p [01:09] _P_, and it worked well ? [01:10] <_P_> yes [01:10] <_P_> impressive [01:11] :) [01:11] anyone know what webcam works best with linux? [01:12] and is there any kde based similar tool as gnome-meeting ? [01:13] <_P_> ztonzy: gnomemeeting is the one and the best [01:13] ztonzy: not as advanced, I don't think. [01:13] ztonzy: I have a Logitech, and that works reasonably when I can take the dust off it. [01:13] _P_, ah ok [01:13] Google might help === froud is now known as froud-work [01:13] apokryphos, hehe...what model ? [01:13] apokryphos, true [01:14] will have to see if I can find the box; actual webcam only says "Logitech" [01:15] I borrowed a kodak ez200 a while, but I dont have it no more...it was tricky but I managed to get drivers going, but bad quality...but in windows superb and one of the better cams around (using CCD instead of CMOS) [01:16] I doubt I'll find the box, but it's old enough for them to not seem to sell it anymore on: http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/productlist/US/EN,crid=2203 === hoschbert [~hoschi@p54830407.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu [01:17] hi [01:18] apokryphos, hmm which one of them ?? [01:18] (but here it is: http://tinyurl.com/6n4t9) === detached [~detached@82.79.220.184] has joined #kubuntu [01:18] ztonzy: none of those; they don't seem to sell it *there*. I imagine the newer ones will likely work... might be better checking google though) [01:18] hoschbert: hi :) [01:18] aaah [01:18] apokryphos, old model [01:18]